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May 10, 2023 - The Joe Rogan Experience
03:17:04
Joe Rogan Experience #1983 - Kim Congdon & Sara Weinshenk
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joe rogan
01:44:56
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kim congdon
49:18
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sara weinshenk
25:43
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jamie vernon
04:17
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unidentified
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Hey, we're rolling.
joe rogan
Hi, ladies.
unidentified
Hi!
joe rogan
What's happening?
unidentified
What's up?
joe rogan
Good to see you.
Class of zero, what number were you guys of Tony, Kill Tony?
You guys are class of one.
unidentified
Class of zero, one.
kim congdon
We were OGs, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, the real OGs.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't it wild to see what it's become now?
I mean, it's literally like the number one live comedy show ever.
sara weinshenk
It's insane.
kim congdon
It's insane.
We started so long ago.
That's where we met, her and I. Yeah, we met.
We've been working together since.
Besties.
Yeah, so.
joe rogan
I've said it before, but I'll say it again.
Tony's the greatest host of any comedy show ever.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
He's the best.
kim congdon
He does really good.
joe rogan
Nobody's better off the cuff.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Off the cuff.
sara weinshenk
Amazing.
He's so fast.
He's so quick.
And, you know, we owe a lot to him, I feel like, because he really helped us get our start.
We learned a lot from being on that show.
kim congdon
Well, yeah.
Being on Kill Tony when we started, we were like...
Babies.
That's where we met you.
That's where we met...
I opened for Ralphie Mae because of that.
I think Bobby Lee...
unidentified
Well, yeah, you opened up for me, too, in Florida.
joe rogan
When that started, I remember thinking, what a fun thing he's doing.
You know, it's kind of fun.
You just go do a minute of stand-up.
And it's a nice way for comics to get a chance to, like, sort of think about comedy, too.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because, like, why is this guy funny?
Like, what is this?
Like, sometimes people are just funny, and it's, like, weird.
Like, weird manner, like Theo Vaughn, right?
Try putting that down.
sara weinshenk
So funny.
joe rogan
Put that down on paper.
kim congdon
You can't.
joe rogan
Imagine.
sara weinshenk
You could never.
joe rogan
My cousin got bit by a gay guy.
So, we'll see.
Like, write that down.
unidentified
It's true.
joe rogan
Like, if somebody wrote jokes for you, you hired them, like, I'm a really good performer, but I suck at writing jokes.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You write some jokes for me, like, bro, I got you.
kim congdon
Theo Vaughn is like how Trader Joe's makes snacks.
joe rogan
How does Trader Joe's work?
sara weinshenk
I don't know.
kim congdon
It's like popcorn, but it's also like a chicken salad.
You're like, what?
But it works.
And you're like, I love this.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
I didn't know about Trader Joe's snacks.
kim congdon
Trader Joe's, they say that the food at Trader Joe's seems like Trader Joe's was made by an alien who didn't really fully understand grocery stores.
unidentified
Oh.
kim congdon
All the food is like really weird.
It's just like weird combinations.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, no, they have like this.
It's like sweet, sour, salty, something popcorn.
It's four different experiences.
They gotta get it streamlined.
kim congdon
It's made by ChapGPT, for sure.
sara weinshenk
Either savory or sweet.
Don't mix it all up like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, what are you trying to do to people?
sara weinshenk
TJ's.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I try to eat healthy for the most part, but when we were in New York this past weekend, we went to the Bronx.
sara weinshenk
I saw that sandwich.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
We ate this place G&R Deli.
Holy shit.
It was insane.
sara weinshenk
I saw that sandwich.
I sent that sandwich to my mom and she called me.
She said, the sandwich that Joe Rogan just ate looked amazing.
We gotta go.
joe rogan
We drove to the Bronx just to go to that place.
We went like an hour out of our way because we were staying in Manhattan and then we had to drive to the Bronx and then go from the Bronx to the fights that were in Newark.
So we went like, just to go to that sandwich shop.
Just because I saw it on Instagram.
kim congdon
Yeah, the picture was one of the best I've ever seen.
joe rogan
It was pretty amazing.
I got a spill here, young Jamie.
I got it, I got it.
sara weinshenk
He's quick.
joe rogan
Anyway.
kim congdon
Yeah, I love to take a...
I'll take a detour for food.
I did something really fat the other day.
sara weinshenk
Tell us.
joe rogan
You did something fat?
kim congdon
Can we say fat?
unidentified
Yeah, you can.
sara weinshenk
She means pH fat.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
kim congdon
Sounds like we're in trouble.
joe rogan
Did you see that guy got in trouble for just saying something be Lizzo-sized?
sara weinshenk
No!
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Didn't that happen, Jamie?
Didn't some sportscaster get in trouble?
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Terrible.
Basketball.
jamie vernon
Terrible for a few things recently.
unidentified
Terrible.
kim congdon
I've never made one of those.
joe rogan
Every now and then you look like a hero.
It's funny when you miss.
kim congdon
Well, it's different because you can't say Kobe now.
It just makes everyone sad and that changes the shot.
joe rogan
When I grew up in Boston, everybody would say Larry Bird.
kim congdon
Really?
That's such a longer name to say.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it was like Larry Bird was the fucking man in 1980. Right.
Look at that.
Get the fuck out of here.
kim congdon
That's sickening.
It's so good.
joe rogan
Totally not good for you.
Let's just get that out of the way.
I'll do it again once a week for the rest of my life.
I think it's just one of those things.
You really shouldn't eat like that every day because you won't be able to stop.
First of all, you'll be a full-on addict and you'll be consuming 40 or 50 times more calories than you actually need.
kim congdon
Do you always give yourself a break or do you ever go super strict and go, like, no snacks, nothing good?
joe rogan
Yeah, tell us your regimen.
No, no, no.
There's no super strict.
kim congdon
Everything in moderation.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did one month.
I did the carnivore diet, like, very strict for one month to see what it was like.
I lost a lot of fat, but it was boring.
I like food.
kim congdon
And a lot of meat like that.
joe rogan
I like these people.
I like their food, their culture.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, it's an experience.
unidentified
I like food.
joe rogan
Yeah, I like Vietnamese food.
I like Thai food.
I like food.
kim congdon
Food's the best.
It's almost the best reason to travel.
Is to try the different foods.
joe rogan
It's a great reason to travel.
Travel is awesome, but travel and then eating people's food.
Eating Thai food in Thailand was fucking amazing.
kim congdon
We gotta go.
joe rogan
Thailand's awesome.
sara weinshenk
We wanna go.
joe rogan
You guys should go and do some fucking Muay Thai.
Let's go.
kim congdon
I know.
joe rogan
I know you can get into that.
You're a mean girl.
kim congdon
Oh no, I stopped.
joe rogan
You can fuck a chick up.
kim congdon
I got a concussion and I stopped.
unidentified
I got scared.
sara weinshenk
She's in her soft girl era.
Yeah, that's good.
joe rogan
Don't do concussions.
kim congdon
No.
sara weinshenk
She's a soft girl now, Joe.
joe rogan
Did you see Mark Zuckerberg won a gold medal in a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu competition?
sara weinshenk
No.
joe rogan
Mark Zuckerberg is a fucking savage.
kim congdon
Can you imagine?
joe rogan
This dude has been training jujitsu.
This is what he did.
He wore a COVID mask and he fucking put a hat on and he hid.
sara weinshenk
No.
joe rogan
And he used an alias.
And then imagine you're right about to compete and like maybe your first competition.
Well, just give it a try.
I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen?
Where's he going to happen to get strangled by a super nerd?
sara weinshenk
Mark Zuckerberg.
So embarrassing.
joe rogan
I'm very proud of him.
He's awesome.
unidentified
That's wild.
joe rogan
I think it's amazing.
It's amazing that he did that.
A few people have done that.
Mario Lopez did that.
unidentified
What's his name?
joe rogan
Tom Bain.
Tom Hardy.
Tom Hardy did that a couple times.
unidentified
Hot?
joe rogan
Undeniable.
You see him in Warrior?
kim congdon
Hot as fuck.
He could be listening to this, I just realized that.
It's possible.
Tom Hardy?
I'm not gonna do that, but you know what I mean.
sara weinshenk
Tom Hardy, you can DM me.
joe rogan
You got the green light.
kim congdon
I said yes.
sara weinshenk
DM me, mommy.
joe rogan
He was awesome in Warrior.
unidentified
I bought it.
joe rogan
I bought it hook, line, and sinker.
There's certain dudes that become different people.
He was a different person in that Venom movie.
It's like you believed he was that clumsy character in the Venom movie that got infected by an alien.
Just to pull that off, you know how hard it is to pull off?
You're doing a movie with CGI. There's a CGI alien that comes out of you, a giant spider creature.
kim congdon
It's a different place you have to go in your mind at that point.
Actually pulled it off.
And he does it, yeah.
joe rogan
It was good.
See, he's got, look at that, gold medal.
unidentified
Wow.
sara weinshenk
Wow.
joe rogan
Dude's fucking jacked.
kim congdon
Wow.
unidentified
Strangling fools.
sara weinshenk
There's a blue belt.
We're both just saying wow in unison.
joe rogan
I'm going to tell you something about blue belts, too.
That's like, by the time you get to blue belt, you're dealing with people that know how to submit people.
It's just whether or not they can keep it together smoothly.
And there's various levels of that.
And when you get to tournaments, you get, like, a lot of the levels are like, the guys really should be a purple belt.
They're like, they're really purple belt level.
Some instructors are stingy.
So for him to win blue belt, it's very possible he had real skilled opposition.
Not like black belt opposition, but they know how to do shit.
kim congdon
For sure.
joe rogan
Look at Zuckerberg.
Strangling bitches.
sara weinshenk
Actually, that's pretty hot.
Zuckerberg, if you're listening.
My DMs are open.
joe rogan
He knows your DMs are open.
You can just fucking read them.
kim congdon
He's in them.
joe rogan
He doesn't even need the FBI. He already heard us.
kim congdon
He already heard us.
And this hasn't aired.
joe rogan
Your fucking phone is lighting up.
Every time his name gets mentioned, it goes into a file.
I'm super...
I think that's amazing.
I love when people just...
He doesn't have to do anything.
He's one of the richest people on earth.
He just takes a chance and tries to get good at this thing and then goes and competes in this thing.
We should all celebrate that.
That's amazing.
sara weinshenk
But that's probably why he's one of the richest guys on earth because he just goes for it.
Commits.
He's focused.
unidentified
He's streamlined.
joe rogan
You should be like an Instagram motivational speaker.
unidentified
I will.
joe rogan
I feel like what you just said right there will stir nations.
He just goes for us.
kim congdon
He commits.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the thing.
You just got to be that kind of person.
Some people, that's their big problem.
They don't know what to go for.
So they kind of get stalled in the parking lot.
Like, which direction?
Where do I go?
sara weinshenk
Because they don't have me giving them motivational speeches.
unidentified
You need a little Shanky in your ear.
kim congdon
Okay, I like something besides Shanky in your ear, though.
I like Shanky in your ear.
joe rogan
Actually, that's a great name for a podcast.
sara weinshenk
Shanky in your ear?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's good, right?
kim congdon
It does make me laugh.
joe rogan
It's got a catchy ring to it.
kim congdon
Shake it in your ear.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you ever want to do a fucking solo spinoff, and then we got to do the Kim Kopp.
Remember when Kiss did a spinoff?
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kiss had like, I don't know if you remember this.
Do you remember this?
kim congdon
They did a show?
joe rogan
No, Kiss.
Kiss the band.
kim congdon
Yeah, I thought they did a reality show.
joe rogan
I'm sure they did that, too.
unidentified
They did.
joe rogan
But they all released their own albums.
Like, Peter Criss had his solo album.
Paul Stanley had his solo album.
Gene Simmons had his solo album.
Ace Frehley had his solo album.
And they all just sort of competed with each other.
unidentified
Do you want us to break up?
kim congdon
I'm not saying that.
joe rogan
Think about it though.
If we have Shanky in your ear.
kim congdon
He's saying Shanky in your ear is Beyonce and I'm Michelle.
joe rogan
You do your podcast together and then you get another one on the side.
sara weinshenk
I have Shank.
kim congdon
Yeah, she has a podcast.
It's called Shank.
joe rogan
It's called Shank.
Why not Shanky in your ear?
sara weinshenk
I guess I could rebrand.
Actually, Rogan and I had a conversation.
The podcast is Shanky in your ear now.
kim congdon
Everyone is.
joe rogan
People who like it now are mad.
sara weinshenk
Shut up.
joe rogan
Shut up.
That's terrible advice.
It is terrible advice.
sara weinshenk
Shanky in your ear.
joe rogan
It's funny for now.
kim congdon
I need to start my own podcast.
joe rogan
Your mom's house, names like that, they just stick.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's certain good names, like Call Her Daddy.
It's a great name.
kim congdon
It's so good.
sara weinshenk
We love our name, but it took us a second.
kim congdon
We had an issue at first.
sara weinshenk
We had an issue.
kim congdon
We had a bad podcast name, and we kept having to say it.
sara weinshenk
And we would get embarrassed.
kim congdon
Bad.
It was bad.
joe rogan
What was it?
sara weinshenk
You say it, Kim.
kim congdon
Don't look at me.
sara weinshenk
I'll say it.
I'll say it.
kim congdon
Don't look at me.
I want to take my ears off.
sara weinshenk
Thank you, Kimmy, and Shank.
kim congdon
Okay, can we move on?
unidentified
That's not that bad.
sara weinshenk
That's horrible.
unidentified
Jamie, it's not the worst.
kim congdon
Jamie, how bad is it?
sara weinshenk
But now it's this bitch.
jamie vernon
You've done a much better job.
sara weinshenk
But now it's this bitch, and that's so much better.
joe rogan
This bitch is perfect.
kim congdon
Well, that's what we say to each other all the time.
sara weinshenk
This bitch.
joe rogan
I love saying that.
sara weinshenk
I love saying this bitch.
joe rogan
This bitch is one of the most fun things to say.
Like, this bitch.
Say it to your friends when they say something nuts.
kim congdon
It is.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
You know how many times I've said that to Tony Hinchcliffe?
kim congdon
We gotta get Joe our tote bag.
We got a this bitch tote bag.
joe rogan
Oh, please get me one.
sara weinshenk
And a sweatshirt.
We gotta get you a this bitch sweatshirt.
unidentified
I'll wear that shit.
I'll wear that shit.
kim congdon
I will 100% wear that shit.
We say it all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a great thing to say.
It's a great thing to say.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, and we get it on each other's nerves, so we'll be like, this bitch.
joe rogan
It's kind of amazing, actually, that nobody else had a podcast called This Bitch.
Wow, you guys caught that.
That's a good one to catch.
kim congdon
Well, after we had to say Thickey, Kimmy, and Shank four times.
It started haunting us like Bloody Mary.
unidentified
We're like talking to people.
kim congdon
We were like, we're not doing one more ounce of work until we rename this podcast.
sara weinshenk
And it was bad.
We were like talking to sponsors and they're like, okay, so what's the name?
I'm like, um.
kim congdon
We didn't know exactly what we did here.
We were like, uh, you can tell them.
There's been so many embarrassing things that we've done throughout the years.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
But that's the beautiful thing is that you can learn on the air.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It gives people a chance to get good at something that wouldn't have got the chance.
So if you were going to host a show on CBS or NBC, they'll give you a little bit of time.
Like, you know, Sarah's the next big thing.
We're going to give her the Sarah Show.
unidentified
Hi, everybody.
joe rogan
Like Ellen, you'd be like Sarah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
sara weinshenk
Whoa.
joe rogan
They'll give you a chance.
They might give an upcoming talent.
But if it doesn't go well at first and they lose sponsors or the ratings dip...
kim congdon
Cut!
joe rogan
What else we got?
Oh god, dancing for dollars.
Whatever the fuck they can put on there that's gonna make money.
But with the internet, you can sort of fuck around and find your thing, find your voice.
And it's amazing because the barrier to entry is pretty fucking small in comparison.
They have fucking studios.
unidentified
Camera trucks and fucking lighting and trust and this and grips and everything.
joe rogan
It's like every show that gets made by Hollywood, it's so much money just to put it on.
But you can just do it and get better at it.
kim congdon
It's amazing!
It really is.
sara weinshenk
Even during the pandemic, I would just be talking by myself in the room.
I'm like, if I was going to have a threesome by myself because we didn't know if we could hang out with people.
joe rogan
Well, the good news is Alexa was listening.
kim congdon
And your boyfriend, Mark.
sara weinshenk
Oh, yeah.
My boyfriend, Mark, hears everything.
joe rogan
So you were talking to yourself with him in the same place?
sara weinshenk
I was talking to myself, like, just trying to buy up time on a 45-minute solo pod.
unidentified
Oh.
sara weinshenk
I start talking about cartoon threesomes because I'm straight out of content.
I'm like, okay, Betty Boop would.
Felix the Cat.
joe rogan
I think that's a particularly unique muscle that Bill Burr has and Tim Dillon has and Giannis Pappas has.
There's people that can just rant about a subject and find themselves solo.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's hard to do.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, no, and you know what?
It makes your stand-up so much better, and it makes your podcasting better if you could just talk by yourself.
It makes you feel mentally ill.
unidentified
When you're done, you don't even recognize yourself.
Oh my god, that's so funny.
joe rogan
It's so funny.
kim congdon
Yeah, the pandemic was a moment.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, Kim lived another life.
kim congdon
The Zoom shows?
I left.
I went to Florida and partied.
joe rogan
Zoom shows were wild.
They were like, why didn't anybody tell you not to do that?
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Don't do that.
unidentified
Don't do that.
kim congdon
No, I didn't do one Zoom show.
sara weinshenk
I did one Zoom show.
And I think about it every now and then.
It haunts me.
kim congdon
I was just like, why are we doing this?
It's too much.
joe rogan
It's too weird.
kim congdon
If we're all stuck, let's not do stand-up then for a little bit.
unidentified
How about that?
joe rogan
I thought it was such junkies, though.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what the weirdest thing was?
Late night talk shows where they're doing it from their webcam.
kim congdon
Oh, and nobody was laughing?
joe rogan
No one was laughing.
It's so nuts.
kim congdon
I was like, why are we watching this?
joe rogan
It's like someone practicing new jokes.
It's like if you had a friend who wanted to say, hey, want to run some ideas by you?
sara weinshenk
No.
joe rogan
I would let them.
You wouldn't do that for your friend?
sara weinshenk
If it was my friend.
joe rogan
Yeah, a comic friend.
sara weinshenk
Okay, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They go, listen, this is just an exercise I'm trying to do.
I wrote these premises down, and I'm going to say, that was what it was like.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was like, what happens if Walmart closes all their stores in San Francisco?
joe rogan
And you'd be like, that one sucks.
We could just go over them.
kim congdon
My apples taste like Clorox.
unidentified
It's like, stop wiping your groceries with bleach.
kim congdon
This is fucking sad.
It was a sad time.
It was a weird time, right?
But you know what?
I actually really enjoyed...
Staying home and just me and my sister started baking and we bought a bow and arrow.
And then she almost killed a bird and we never did it again.
She just pulled out.
She's like a prodigy.
She just pulled it out.
We just put it together.
We're figuring it out.
It's going in the ground for me.
She shoots it once, almost gets it right in the middle.
She's like, oh, okay.
She pulls it out.
We see a bird.
As a joke, I go, kill it.
And she goes...
And clips its wing.
And a feather flies off and it keeps going.
And we both were like, and then we just put it down and we were like, we're going to go inside.
joe rogan
Maybe you're like a natural born archer.
Maybe this is like a movie.
kim congdon
Not either.
joe rogan
You just give her the bow and they're like, oh my god.
How long have you done this for?
Like, that's actually the third time I've ever done it.
kim congdon
That's what it looked like.
joe rogan
And then they just go, oh my god, she's a natural.
It's like Paul Newman in that movie about baseball.
kim congdon
She's the rain man of archery.
unidentified
Yes, imagine.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just like, you just have a natural gift.
Oh yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna fucking do this.
Like in another life, you were an archer.
sara weinshenk
Dude, that's so cool.
I, during the pandemic, I got a mini trampoline.
I was just bouncing at my parents' house in their backyard.
unidentified
Whoa.
sara weinshenk
That's a lot.
I was like, I'm gonna livestream on the trampoline.
I'm gonna livestream and hula hoop.
I'm gonna, just trying to keep myself busy.
This is very mentally ill to be livestreaming and hula hooping.
unidentified
Whew.
joe rogan
It was tough on everyone.
unidentified
It was a tough time.
kim congdon
It was tough.
I was in the live watching.
joe rogan
Tough as a country.
There were some moments where I didn't know if I was ever going to do stand-up again.
kim congdon
Me too.
joe rogan
In the beginning, in the early days, when we hadn't done it for months, I was like, maybe this is it.
Maybe this is the new world.
Maybe stand-up is gone.
Back then, you didn't really know how deadly is this going to be.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, everybody was really worried that it was going to get worse.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a lot of weirdness going on.
You know, it's like there was people that had it and nothing happened to them.
People that had it and got fucked up.
And you're like, what is this?
Like, stand-up's not worth it.
Let's not do stand-up.
Like, I remember I canceled, like, one of the last shows.
I think it was, like, the improv.
We were supposed to do a show at the improv.
Like, the day the comedy store was shutting down, the day everything was shutting down.
I was like, maybe we shouldn't do this.
If we're gonna shut down tomorrow, why are we open tonight?
What's happening?
Are we in danger?
If we go out, is this fucking stupid?
kim congdon
There's something about comedy and comics where they fucking need it.
They're like, just one last one before we go.
joe rogan
One last one before we die.
kim congdon
I don't know.
I don't really feel that way.
I love stand-up.
It's my favorite thing in the world to do, but I didn't feel like I was like...
sara weinshenk
I did window sets.
kim congdon
I did window sets.
sara weinshenk
At the comedy store in the window.
Like a little sad dog at a pet shop.
kim congdon
I looked like a whore in the window.
People weren't just throwing money at the window.
joe rogan
It took me a good solid two and a half years to not freak out when someone sneezes.
kim congdon
Oh, yeah, I'm still sensitive about it.
joe rogan
Now if someone coughs and sneezes, you're like, eh.
kim congdon
No, now people still look.
If someone coughs, the whole room looks up, and that used to not happen.
joe rogan
But it's not the same look up.
Like, we're all in danger.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was in an elevator with a guy who was coughing in Vegas, in the heart of it.
This old dude was coughing, and was like, Jesus Christ.
I'm holding my breath on the elevator.
It's like an exercise.
I'm like, how long can I hold my breath?
kim congdon
That's how I used to do school when I was younger.
Instead of paying attention, I would just watch the clock and try to beat my last record.
sara weinshenk
During the pandemic, did you see Jamar?
Jamar had on like big goggles and he went to the CVS and he got kicked out of the CVS because he had on like snorkeling gear.
joe rogan
How come you can't do that?
I think you can do that.
You know what someone told me?
kim congdon
That's so funny.
joe rogan
Someone told me that you catch respiratory viruses from your eyeballs.
Is that true?
kim congdon
I don't know, but you know what someone told me?
That their grandpa got stung in the eye by a bee and it cured his diabetes.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
That sounds like some folklore.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
kim congdon
Beekeepers live longer than the average person because they get stung.
sara weinshenk
Where did you learn this?
kim congdon
And if you have Lyme disease, there's people that take bees and they put it into their backs and it helps all their symptoms.
There's something about bee stings.
joe rogan
I have heard people getting a positive benefit from bee stings, but I think it was arthritis.
kim congdon
Don't come for me, Big Pharma.
They cut my throat because they talked about the bees.
I keep forgetting that there's a...
joe rogan
I'm watching this new Netflix thing called...
What is it?
Chimp Empire?
Is that what it's called?
jamie vernon
Yeah, just before I get too far, the viral infection of lungs through the eye.
Oh, can you?
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can.
unidentified
That makes sense.
joe rogan
Pathogens that are known agents of ocular infection such as HSV. Wow.
What's HSV? Often cause severely impaired vision and blindness.
Viral infection of the lungs through the eye.
Holy fuck.
sara weinshenk
I'm going to start wearing goggles.
joe rogan
So in that case, they should have left Jamar alone because he was doing a smart thing.
He was wearing goggles to avoid fucking evil shit.
And you can keep your eyes covered.
kim congdon
I bet there's some sort of paperwork that says that the people with glasses get less viral infections than other people.
joe rogan
My favorite was the people with a shield.
unidentified
But then you could reach under the shield and say, hey buddy.
joe rogan
It's like a cat hiding under the bed with her tails out there.
kim congdon
What are you doing?
My favorite video was just someone going outside with a mask on in the winter and blowing.
And it was just all the air you could see with the mask on still going.
You could see exactly where a breath would go.
unidentified
It's so stupid.
kim congdon
And it was just everywhere and muffled.
joe rogan
It's so weird.
It's so weird that we went through that for that long.
kim congdon
Um, yeah.
joe rogan
But we learned along the way.
See, like, nobody knew, like, why doesn't a mask work?
Like, in the beginning it seems like a smart thing to do, and plus it makes people feel better.
Like, you're doing the right thing, we're all just trying to be safe.
But at a certain point in time, most people should have figured out that doesn't really work.
Like, you can't have a bandana on and stop a fucking deadly fight.
You can't have a face shield on.
unidentified
We've had face shields.
joe rogan
Where's that hair coming from, bitch?
sara weinshenk
Face shield.
joe rogan
You don't even have a filter on your face.
sara weinshenk
The face shield was rough.
joe rogan
It was weird.
sara weinshenk
And when I saw someone with a face shield, I didn't know what to make of them.
The first face shield I saw in the wild, I was like, oh shit.
joe rogan
Reggie Watts had this hilarious getup that we ordered a couple of them.
These fucking things.
It was a space helmet.
And you put a space helmet on, and you cinch it up to your neck, and it's got like filters inside and everything, and it cools you off, too.
unidentified
What?
sara weinshenk
Like a fan?
joe rogan
So there's like a little fan in there.
sara weinshenk
I like that.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure there's a fan.
Isn't there a fan in there?
kim congdon
You know, I don't.
I will say...
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a fan in there.
Yeah, here's Reggie.
Look at this.
unidentified
Masks, you know, like...
joe rogan
Reggie was traveling on airplanes with this.
kim congdon
No.
joe rogan
Yes.
kim congdon
Well, I would like that, because I do feel like airplanes make you really sick.
joe rogan
Well, if there really was an issue, like a real serious issue, here's a question.
Like if there's some fucking evil alien virus, there's no known cure.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
unidentified
Are you gonna walk around with that on?
kim congdon
No, I'm going outside.
I'm going...
joe rogan
Are you gonna just take it in?
kim congdon
I'm going.
sara weinshenk
I'm actually gonna rhinestone mine.
I get that and I glitter it up.
joe rogan
Like a hot girl in a motorcycle.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, I make it my own.
joe rogan
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
kim congdon
No, I don't know.
It's just like, who knows?
I was nervous when it happened, but now if something happens again, I won't take it seriously.
joe rogan
I wonder what's going to happen.
Did they cry wolf?
kim congdon
They cried wolf on my ass.
Oh no.
joe rogan
But nobody knew in the beginning, right?
That's the thing.
Everybody always wants to point...
To like, this person's got it wrong.
But nobody fucking knew in the beginning.
In the beginning there was so much guesswork.
kim congdon
There's always a threat.
If it's not that, it's climate change.
If it's not climate change, it's homicides.
If it's not homicides, it's something else.
There's always a worry.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's never going to be perfect.
kim congdon
I saw the nicest sticker the other day on a gas station.
The grossest gas station ever.
I was terrified.
And when I got out, it was just a sticker that said, think of something beautiful.
And I was like, that's kind of the nicest sticker I've ever seen.
It's not corny.
And it is really nice.
And it kind of helps.
sara weinshenk
Isn't that sweet?
She's in her soft girl era.
kim congdon
I think the mushrooms are kicking.
sara weinshenk
You know what I hate?
I hate when Kim takes mushrooms because then she won't let me talk shit about guys.
She'll be like, he's just a man.
kim congdon
Yeah, she'll call me and I'll be like, well, maybe he went through something.
sara weinshenk
And I'll be like, oh, you're on mushrooms.
kim congdon
Yeah, it stops the gossip for me.
sara weinshenk
We're all just people.
And I go, okay, yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
It is true.
Imagine if everybody was on mushrooms and that was just like the prevalent attitude.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
You wouldn't care if you've been wronged.
joe rogan
Isn't it crazy that if it like as a mass experiment like if everybody just took a minor dose Okay, okay, Jesus Christ get us all in trouble.
No, it's nothing if there was like legal psilocybin And it was regulated so you knew what it was where there's it's tested safe doses.
unidentified
Yeah, and Everybody Everybody.
joe rogan
The whole country.
sara weinshenk
That would be beautiful.
joe rogan
You know what happened?
A bunch of dudes who are criminals would say they were going to take it.
And then they'd rob everybody while they're on mushrooms.
It'd be the worst case of love doesn't find a way.
kim congdon
It's a great movie.
They convince everyone about world peace, but it's actually just a trick.
joe rogan
And they just rob everybody blind.
They break into the stock exchange and fucking clean out all the Bitcoin.
unidentified
Damn.
sara weinshenk
And it's just like the worst trip ever.
joe rogan
It sounds like a Guy Ritchie movie.
kim congdon
It's great.
sara weinshenk
I'm watching.
kim congdon
Cut that out!
Keep it!
joe rogan
Maybe not all at once, but if it was available to everybody and they realized the benefits, especially like of micro doses, just perspective enhancing benefits.
It helps so many fucking soldiers, so many guys who get back and experience combat.
They're all fucking racked by all sorts of emotions and thoughts and lost friends and That and MDMA seems to really help those guys.
kim congdon
I was just going to say, I had a roommate in LA who did MDMA. She did like a weekend camp therapy with only children of childhood trauma.
And she came back like a different person.
joe rogan
Wow.
sara weinshenk
That's interesting.
kim congdon
And she said it literally changed her life.
joe rogan
Well, they know that it's, you know, whatever it does, that experience of letting go of all your inhibitions and...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
For some people, it can sort of just reset the way you see the world.
So for soldiers, for so many people that have experienced violence, that is so important for them.
Why don't we make that available?
That could literally help the world and through MAPS. MAPS is doing those studies with soldiers and they're all very promising.
It's very interesting stuff.
But they're doing it the right way and they're doing it through politics.
unidentified
I love that.
kim congdon
Because, Joe, then we can't gossip.
They need us to gossip.
That's how they control us.
sara weinshenk
When I did an MDMA, I fell in love with a PE teacher for 24 hours.
joe rogan
Wow, 24 hours?
sara weinshenk
24 hours.
I go, this PE teacher's the man for me.
kim congdon
That's about how long you fell in love with a PE teacher.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, when you sober up, you go, maybe it wasn't love.
joe rogan
What would the world be like if, you know, I mean, think about how many people that are on various medications.
What would the world be like if they just came up with something and called it, like, Calm, and it was a micro-dose MDMA that everybody took all day long?
sara weinshenk
Wow.
joe rogan
So everybody is like almost like they're tripping, almost like they're rolling all day long.
Everyone's nice to everyone.
Everyone's lovely.
Everyone's friendly.
People are giving you hugs at CVS. They want everyone to do well.
kim congdon
See?
joe rogan
I want you to be happy.
unidentified
Everybody wants you to do well.
joe rogan
Imagine.
kim congdon
Imagine.
unidentified
Those two things?
sara weinshenk
I love that.
joe rogan
We talked about psilocybin and MDMA. They're real.
We're not making this up.
We're not fake things that some people have talked about on internet forums, but they're not real.
They're real.
And they're illegal.
That alone should make us go, what the fuck?
When is that going to change?
sara weinshenk
How are they illegal, but Delta, that weird...
joe rogan
Delta 9?
sara weinshenk
Is legal.
How is that a thing?
joe rogan
I don't know.
That's a weird high.
sara weinshenk
I haven't smoked it.
joe rogan
It's like a neighbor of weed.
unidentified
It's like, I'm Weed's neighbor, I'mma tell you what he tells me.
kim congdon
Come on in, Weed will be here soon.
Will it?
joe rogan
It doesn't seem like it has any of the ideas that Weed has.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, it just repeats Weed's ideas.
It doesn't do such a good job of telling them.
unidentified
Well, one time when he was 13, his stepdaddy was a real piece of shit.
sara weinshenk
Anyway.
kim congdon
Oh, Weed makes you uncomfortable.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kim congdon
You don't want to stay for, or Delta.
It makes you uncomfortable.
joe rogan
It makes me like, it's just, it's odd.
It's an odd thing.
It's weird that they can do that, though.
It's weird that that's legal.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
kim congdon
I bought weed one time in Harlem from this guy.
Can I say that?
unidentified
Yes.
Back then it was probably illegal.
kim congdon
Yeah, no.
I mean, this was probably three years ago.
joe rogan
When did it get legal in New York?
sara weinshenk
Recently.
kim congdon
Oh yeah, so it was probably illegal then still.
joe rogan
You were a criminal.
kim congdon
Yeah, I was doing bad things.
sara weinshenk
A bad bitch.
kim congdon
But I had always bought from this guy, and right before I recorded my podcast, this was when I was living in New York, and I rolled a joint of it, and I smoked it with me, my co-host, our guest, all the producers, and then while we were smoking it, before the joint was even done, I was like, I'm done.
And then I was like, we should do a new segment, and we should rap.
And everybody was like, what?
And I was like, we should start rap.
I think it would be a good idea if we started, we became like a rap thing.
And then I just started going off about rap.
And I was like, going crazy.
And then when we got on, I was like, we have to start the show now because we have to do this thing before the idea goes.
And I started getting crazy.
And then I'm like breathing all heavy and my heart's racing.
And one of the producers who was like, Does a lot of drugs.
Literally said into the mic, I'm the highest I've ever been.
And then that's when it hit me that I was like, the weed.
This is not me.
I realized something happened.
And we were on air already.
I was pulling up rap lyrics and dancing to them.
joe rogan
It's those joints that they sprinkle the THC crystals on.
kim congdon
I know exactly what it was.
joe rogan
What was it?
kim congdon
Okay.
After I came down and had them almost call an ambulance, because then I freaked out on the podcast.
I cried.
We were looking up the symptoms of fentanyl on the podcast.
unidentified
No!
kim congdon
Yes, because I was like, it could be fentanyl.
I've never felt like this on weed.
And then I looked at the bag and there was a little bit of cocaine in the bag that he sold me the weed in.
So I had smoked...
sara weinshenk
Crack, basically.
kim congdon
Crack.
unidentified
Whoa!
kim congdon
And did a podcast.
A full podcast trying to be a rapper.
unidentified
So you would have been a rapper if you had done crack.
joe rogan
100%.
sara weinshenk
I think I would also be a rapper if I did crack.
kim congdon
Rhymeshank.
sara weinshenk
That was my nickname for a while.
joe rogan
Rhymeshank, I like it.
sara weinshenk
I was rhyming.
I was like, no one could be around me.
kim congdon
Make sure your weed dealer doesn't also deal coke and reuse the baggies.
joe rogan
Imagine if there's certain drugs that make you want to do certain activities.
It's like you can just crack and rap or just like, you know, if you ever see some lost kid from the suburbs, all of a sudden he starts rapping.
kim congdon
Well, yeah, I smoke weed because I'm a comedian.
I feel like if I would have drank more, I would have been like a mom.
Someone would have gotten me pregnant already.
joe rogan
There's a lot of funny comedians that are drunks.
kim congdon
That's true.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
kim congdon
I feel like we all smoke weed, most of us.
joe rogan
A lot of us.
It's comedy steroids.
kim congdon
It really is.
joe rogan
It puts you in a different state of mind.
sara weinshenk
That's like what Brody would say.
He was like, 90% of comedians smoke weed, 90% and the rest, they're not funny.
joe rogan
I've gotten some calls from people that used to be super straight-laced and then when it became legal in California in 2016, people were like, oh, it's fucking legal.
Maybe a gummy will help me go to sleep.
They start asking me questions like, what's the difference between sativa and indica?
kim congdon
They text you at 420 and you're like, dude.
joe rogan
You fucking rookie.
kim congdon
Come on, man.
They're smoking out of apples and shit.
joe rogan
I was that rookie at one point in time, too.
kim congdon
We all were.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kim congdon
We all were.
joe rogan
In the beginning, you can't believe people don't know about pot.
When you first started smoking weed, you're like, how is everybody not doing this?
sara weinshenk
When I first started smoking weed is when I started dating this white hippie dude that had dreadlocks from Portland.
unidentified
Gus?
sara weinshenk
No.
This was different.
And all we would do is get high and eat pies.
And I think I gained like 15 pounds because I was just smoking weed with him and eating pies.
joe rogan
Do you guys know the story of Jack Harrow?
sara weinshenk
Oh, the...
joe rogan
The Emperor Wears No Clothes?
sara weinshenk
The hemp guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, yeah, the hemperer.
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a famous marijuana activist and researcher, and he wrote this book.
This guy was like a Goldwater Republican, and then met this lady, and they were smoking a little marijuana together, hanging out, and all of a sudden he gets it.
And he goes, oh my God, this is good for you.
This is...
He has all these revelations about it.
Then he goes into the history, because he's a very smart guy.
He says, like, how did this happen?
And he starts delving into the history of Harry Enslinger and William Randolph Hearst, and they conspired to make it look like there was this new drug that was causing all these...
Mexican guys...
Excuse me.
I got these zen patches.
kim congdon
I thought that was what the drugs were doing.
joe rogan
No, I wish.
They were saying that it was causing Mexicans and black men to rape white women.
They were writing stories about this.
And then they came up with the Reefer Madness propaganda films.
And all this calling it marijuana.
kim congdon
They tried to Emmett Till weed.
sara weinshenk
Yes, that's right.
joe rogan
Marijuana was like a slang for Mexican wild tobacco.
It had nothing to do with...
sara weinshenk
Sorry to cut you off, but that's why I have, like, one of my black friends told me that the black community likes to call it cannabis, not marijuana, because marijuana is associated with that negativity.
Yeah.
kim congdon
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with the word marijuana.
I think it's a cute name.
unidentified
I like it.
joe rogan
Marijuana sounds good.
sara weinshenk
That's my daughter.
joe rogan
I'd like to smoke some marijuana.
But I also like cannabis, too.
The names aren't important.
What's important is that people like this Jack Harrow guy, see if you can pull up that book, because it's a very good book.
Where he talks about, he actually had this video that they had made in like the World War I or World War II. It was hemp for victory.
And it was telling farmers to grow marijuana.
Like marijuana, like the plant marijuana is also hemp.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
So what marijuana is is a psychoactive female version of a very similar plant.
So now they've kind of engineered hemp so it doesn't have any THC in it.
So you can't smoke the hemp.
But that hemp is what they were fighting.
They weren't really fighting marijuana.
They were fighting hemp because it's a superior textile.
It makes the best, most durable clothes.
It makes a far superior paper.
You could use it to build houses with.
kim congdon
Why doesn't everybody use hemp then?
joe rogan
It should be.
It should be.
kim congdon
But why not the switchover?
joe rogan
Because there's a lot of moving pieces when it comes to things like this.
There's a lot of moving pieces that are in gear.
They're moving.
So hemp is now legal in the United States, right?
So then the industry has to kind of build up and you have to have manufacturing if you really want to do it.
If you really want a higher skilled labor to make hemp clothes that you built here in America, now it's possible.
But at Onnit, we used to have to buy our hemp from Canada because you couldn't grow it in the United States, even though it was legal because it wasn't psychoactive.
So we had hemp protein powder.
And we used to have to get it grown in Canada.
That's crazy.
We couldn't even hire an American farmer to grow it.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, I know that hemp is also, like, the clothes are anti, it's like antibacterial, antifungal.
What?
kim congdon
I didn't know any of this.
joe rogan
Yeah, they make hemp geese.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, I have a hemp geese.
Yeah, Datsura.
kim congdon
It's the shit.
Does it smell less?
joe rogan
You can find them online.
They're just real durable.
Like, real fucking durable.
Like, the only thing that's going to break is the threads, and they just re-stitch it.
Like, that cloth is not ripping.
It's really fucking strong.
Like, hemp is a weird thing.
Like, my friend Todd McCormick had a stalk of hemp on his desk.
He's like, pick this up.
I picked it up, and I was like, what the fuck, man?
It weighs nothing.
It was hard like oak, but it weighed nothing.
unidentified
It weighed nothing.
joe rogan
It was like balsa wood.
kim congdon
I feel like we need to get up on hemp.
joe rogan
So you can see like a fat hemp stalk.
So that's the stuff that they turn into clothing.
So they strip it away, and it's a very difficult process.
And for the longest time, they were doing it with slave labor.
And then when the cotton gin came along, the cotton gin made it easier to process cotton.
And so it wasn't until the decorticator was invented.
And the decorticator was a new method to effectively process hemp fiber with a machine.
So they had this machine that's going to strip it down.
Because otherwise they were using, like, people were pounding on it and shit.
sara weinshenk
Wow.
joe rogan
So this was invented, and then all the Reefer Madness shit came out.
Because there was a thing, I think it was Popular Science Magazine, see if that, hemp the new billion dollar crop, see if you can find that.
kim congdon
Then they had the two, and they just chose the cotton because there was no drama behind it.
joe rogan
It wasn't just, it was no, no, it was the people that, William Randolph Hearst was one of them.
So William Randolph Hearst owned Hearst Publications.
Look, Billion dollar crop.
It was on the cover of the magazine.
See if you can find the cover, because it's kind of hilarious to see that, that they have this story about this new billion dollar crop, hemp.
I mean, it's really wild shit.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, that's wild.
Well, so now can anyone grow hemp?
joe rogan
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe it wasn't on the cover.
But that's the story right there.
Hemp, the billion dollar crop.
God, I swore it was on the cover.
But I have a fucked up memory sometimes.
Hemp fiber being delivered from machines ready for baling.
Piles of pulverized herds The side machine is 77% cellulose.
So they strip it down with that machine.
So they immediately were like, okay, now we're going to have this stuff that's lighter, it's better, it's stronger.
It's really like a fucking alien plant.
It's real weird.
When you pick it up, it feels weird.
You ever been in a grow room?
sara weinshenk
Yes.
joe rogan
How weird do those feel?
sara weinshenk
So weird.
unidentified
Weird.
kim congdon
Why do they feel weird?
joe rogan
Like there's something else in there with you.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Hal is in there with you.
unidentified
Yeah.
kim congdon
Well, can I tell you?
joe rogan
Hello, Kim.
kim congdon
I have a lot of plants and I feel like that about my plants in general.
sara weinshenk
She calls one of them her dog.
kim congdon
I have this huge Monstera plant and I swear to God it just feels alive and it creeps me out sometimes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm not a big fan of house plants.
sara weinshenk
You're not?
joe rogan
No, because I think it's like little prisoners.
I think they're supposed to be not in this little trapped ecosystem relying on you to play classical music for them.
kim congdon
Now I'm sad for my plants.
sara weinshenk
They don't even get classical music.
Free them.
joe rogan
I'm not a fan of corralling up wild things.
kim congdon
Don't make me feel bad that I have prisoner plants.
unidentified
I have to look those babies in the eye every day.
kim congdon
Now I feel like they hate me.
They're so happy.
They look so good and they grow so fast.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're feeding them.
kim congdon
I have big windows.
joe rogan
I bet they like it.
Maybe they love it.
Maybe they're like a house cat.
They fucking love it.
kim congdon
Yeah, and I heard that they have eyes.
Did you hear that?
Plants have eyes now.
They can see you.
sara weinshenk
That's too far.
kim congdon
They had receptors.
I saw that, I don't know, TikTok probably.
joe rogan
The thing is about...
Plants is that they're communicating with each other through the ground.
That's what's fascinating.
sara weinshenk
That's so cool.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're just starting to figure this stuff out.
I don't know when they realized this, but this is like the mycologists have figured it out.
And all these scientists are realizing that they're allocating resources to different plants.
They're sharing resources.
They're communicating in some way.
It's very weird.
kim congdon
Also, there is spots that people take pictures of that meditate in the grass, and that grass grows flowers around it, the spots that they meditate.
joe rogan
Whoa.
We're like angels.
sara weinshenk
I love that.
kim congdon
They communicate with you if you lay on them.
joe rogan
They do.
They definitely do.
Well, that's why people say when you take mushrooms, go to nature.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
You take mushrooms, go to nature.
It's like, oh my God, these things are alive.
You don't think of them as a...
We're so...
First of all, it's so hard to stay alive up until about, what?
200 years ago, 100 years ago?
It was almost impossible.
Everybody's getting murdered.
sara weinshenk
Left and right.
joe rogan
Every day is just slaughter fest.
People are horrible to each other.
So you gotta concentrate on what you can fucking do.
I just gotta keep moving.
What can I eat?
How can I stay alive?
How can I keep moving?
How can I protect my kids?
So it kind of makes sense that you'll tune out.
The nature part.
I can't be fucked with all this beautiful love shit.
I'm trying to stay alive.
I'm trying not to get eaten by cats.
I'm out here trying to protect a baby with a sharp stick.
kim congdon
Now we can chill.
Now we can chill.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, one of the things I did during the pandemic was move to a very beautiful outdoorsy neighborhood.
And it really changed everything for me.
joe rogan
Sure, your own life.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, my mental health completely just changed for the better.
Spending so much time outside and meditating outside and just being in nature.
joe rogan
They call it forest bathing.
sara weinshenk
Ooh, I like the sound of that.
joe rogan
I didn't invent that, right?
That's what they call it, right?
sara weinshenk
Forest bathing?
kim congdon
My friend Alex just had a baby and she keeps going.
I keep imagining women that used to have babies without all the information.
And they'd just be sitting in a cave breastfeeding and they don't know what the fuck just happened to them.
This crazy shit they just went through.
It gives me anxiety because I'm so comfortable about how tough it used to be.
sara weinshenk
But also, a long time ago, women would birth together, and they would help each other.
Like, there would be doulas and midwives, and so it wasn't really, like, it was more communal, I think.
kim congdon
But still, not having answers, not having Google.
joe rogan
The secret to mindful travel, a walk in the woods.
Visit these five destinations to practice the Japanese art of forest bathing.
Ah, it is real.
Thank you.
sara weinshenk
Confirmed.
joe rogan
Confirmed.
unidentified
Yeah.
kim congdon
Yeah, it's just walking through.
It makes you feel good.
It changes your life, makes you healthier.
sara weinshenk
Raises your vibration.
joe rogan
I think there's something real to that.
When we're in an environment, whether it's an environment of people or an environment of plants, you're getting some sort of...
Weird information that's not as simple as what you see and what you hear.
I think you get it from people.
You know people that you like.
You talk to them and you're like, that guy's cool.
I like talking to that guy.
And there's other people that you're like, Jesus.
kim congdon
And you know, and it's not clear for...
Because you ever see someone that other people like and you're like, wait.
You're like, wait a minute, what's happening here?
joe rogan
That's the story of my whole career.
unidentified
Hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've got no explanations for it either.
kim congdon
It's just crazy and you know that the instincts especially like you see things that are unexplainable like being a woman too like you ever know that a guy is cheating on you and you're right and nothing told you just a feeling What is that?
What is that?
joe rogan
I think there's things that people give off besides words.
There's information that people give off.
You can tell if someone's being deceptive.
You can tell if someone's secretly mad at you.
You know that weird feeling like, I don't think this person likes me.
Some weird no reason at all that I can discern of.
You know you get that feeling sometimes?
I think those are real feelings.
I think there's something there that's nonverbal.
Some fucking thing that they're giving off and you're picking up on it.
kim congdon
And then you trick yourself into thinking it was just you being like, you're like, I might be in a mood.
And then you brush it off.
joe rogan
You could do that.
kim congdon
Then they kill you and you're like, damn it.
joe rogan
You could try it again.
sara weinshenk
I trust my gut.
joe rogan
Maybe that person was having a rough day.
sara weinshenk
I trust my gut.
joe rogan
You should trust your guy.
But you could run into someone that just got in a car accident.
sara weinshenk
Yikes.
joe rogan
When things happen like that, people get ramped up.
unidentified
Yikes.
joe rogan
No, no, people get ramped up.
It's like, that's why road rage exists, because everyone's ramped up, right?
You're in the car, and you have to think fast, because you're going fast.
And then someone's cutting you like, you motherfucker!
Because you're already ramped up.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So sometimes you could run into someone, and some guy just fucking T-boned him, ran a red light, and screamed at him, and there's a lot of shit going on, and the cops didn't help, and then you meet that person.
And they could be too ramped up.
And you're like, I think that guy fucking hates me.
Like, that guy hates everyone right now.
kim congdon
He's just pissed.
joe rogan
He almost died in a car accident and no one cares.
kim congdon
I got into the most frustrating road rage recently.
I did.
And it was just like fucking annoying.
It was like, I do notice that a lot.
I'm not shitting on L.A. I'm just saying that I notice in L.A. Sounds like you're shitting on L.A., bitch.
joe rogan
If I was L.A., I'd be like, what, bitch?
kim congdon
I'll say it right now.
The traffic is bad because it has the worst drivers in the country.
LA has the worst drivers in the country because they try to follow the rules too much and they're causing traffic jams.
No one uses a right lane.
They're all scared to merge.
I'm telling you, there's a trick.
I shouldn't even say it.
But if you're in LA, you can cut the Google Maps by four or five minutes just by driving in the right lane.
Everyone's terrified because they don't want to be rude and merge in a mile up the road.
It's nuts.
Anyways.
joe rogan
Boy, you're real specific.
unidentified
She's got like a specific beef with LA drivers.
sara weinshenk
Don't get her fucking started.
kim congdon
What do I call them?
sara weinshenk
White Knight cucks.
joe rogan
If you think LA sucks, New York is like, hold my beer, bitch.
kim congdon
No!
joe rogan
Because I was just in New York.
And they're mad people.
They just fucking cut in front of everybody.
They drive like crazy.
New York is crazier.
I'll take the LA morons over the New York psychos.
sara weinshenk
See, I think the LA morons are also, like, looking at themselves.
joe rogan
A little bit of that.
sara weinshenk
A little bit of...
Does my eyeliner look good?
A little bit of pretendism.
joe rogan
There's a camera on them always.
kim congdon
They're trying to do too much activism, too.
They stuck.
They asked you.
With his glasses on?
joe rogan
I went down a rabbit hole yesterday looking for Jim Morrison's GT500. Apparently, there's a lost car out there.
No one knows where it is.
No one knows how it went away.
Jim Morrison had one of the only...
There was only a certain number of Shelby GT500s that were made during this year.
I think it was 1967. And this car, he filmed this video of him.
They made like a movie with it.
They did some filming with it on the highway, and there's like photographs of it, and there's footage from it, and he had this car, and then no one knows where it went.
kim congdon
And you want it.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
But not just me.
See, the problem with me is, I'm the wrong guy for that, because I think old cars are stupid.
I like to take old cars and turn them into cars that drive like new cars.
It's like, you want brakes, guys.
Like, you want real brakes.
That nostalgia of bad brakes, you can kiss my ass with that.
There's a company called Roadster Shop that did a 1969 Camaro for me.
They take old cars and they give it a real suspension, independent suspension, full fucking giant six-piston brakes, handles, drives normal, starts when you want it to, voom, voom, voom.
That's stupid.
So I wouldn't really want it other than to say I had it.
sara weinshenk
No, you need to get it.
unidentified
You gotta get Jim Morrison's car, Joe!
kim congdon
You should send out a hunt for it.
sara weinshenk
Send out a hunt!
kim congdon
You should make it a whole thing.
Like, if you find Jim Morrison's car, you get this prize.
joe rogan
No, no.
I think it would be like, if a comic wanted to get Sam Kinison's car, and a musician bought it instead, you'd be like, bitch, give it to us.
You know?
So Jim Morrison's car?
I feel like a musician has to take that.
kim congdon
I feel like...
joe rogan
You know who should drive Jim Morrison's car?
unidentified
Who?
joe rogan
Gary Clark Jr. I don't know who that is.
Shut the fuck up.
kim congdon
Do I? You guys don't know Gary Clark Jr.?
Do I, mama?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Austin resident, one of the greatest guitarists of all time.
kim congdon
Oh, he lives in Austin?
unidentified
Yeah.
kim congdon
Oh shit.
sara weinshenk
We gotta get him Jim Morrison's car.
joe rogan
He's the fucking man.
There's a cover of one of his albums where he was standing in front of this vintage Cadillac, this fucking cool Cadillac.
I was like, dude, please tell me that was your car.
unidentified
He's like, nope.
sara weinshenk
I want him to know, Gary Clark Jr., to know that my DMs are open.
joe rogan
He's quite married.
kim congdon
Oh.
joe rogan
Lovely lady.
sara weinshenk
I guess it's Zuckerberg then.
unidentified
Yeah.
Back to the Zuck.
kim congdon
Not him hearing that.
Now he knows he's the second choice.
sara weinshenk
No, Zuck.
Number one.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't do that to the Zuck.
sara weinshenk
Sorry, Zucky.
kim congdon
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
Zucky, baby.
joe rogan
The guy's a billionaire.
He's entering his jiu-jitsu tournaments.
He's competitive.
You can't do that to him.
sara weinshenk
I'm sorry, Zucky.
kim congdon
What's he going to put you in, Shanky?
sara weinshenk
What?
kim congdon
What jiu-jitsu move?
sara weinshenk
An unplata.
unidentified
Sorry.
sara weinshenk
Maybe a triangle.
I know the jargon.
I hang out with fighters.
joe rogan
Anybody want any coffee?
kim congdon
I would love coffee, please.
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
That's good.
unidentified
The princess.
jamie vernon
This article says it probably wrecked.
Is that not what people think?
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't know, man.
They think it went missing.
I went down a rabbit hole and this guy did a video of it.
And the guy was saying that there's a bunch of different stories.
One story that he crashed it and left it there and it got towed.
sara weinshenk
That I believe.
kim congdon
Whitney did that.
At Avril Lavigne's house.
I think her car's still there.
joe rogan
That sounds like a Whitney move.
That's like a Mike Tyson move.
He crashed one of his Bentleys and gave it to the cop.
You can have this off of them.
The cop was like, okay.
The cop had a fucking Bentley for like two days and then they made him give it back.
The police force made him give it back.
kim congdon
The Mike Tyson interview of him telling the woman journalist to stop speaking out of that shit was kind of funny.
joe rogan
I don't talk to women unless I fornicate women.
kim congdon
And then she was just silent.
joe rogan
She was like, okay.
kim congdon
She didn't make another sound.
sara weinshenk
Have you seen that?
No, but when I saw him at the comedy store, it was one of the only times I've been really starstruck.
Yeah, I saw him at the comedy store.
kim congdon
He was very nice.
He talked to me and didn't try to fornicate with me, I will say.
joe rogan
He's the nicest guy ever.
sara weinshenk
He was so nice.
joe rogan
He's very, very nice, believe it or not.
And he's a very kind person.
kim congdon
It is a very funny thing to say.
joe rogan
Well, back in the day, he was a different person.
And that's the thing that he was most afraid of about even working out.
He said it.
He said he doesn't want to rekindle his ego.
That's what he said when he fought Roy Jones.
It was a crazy quote.
He said, like, the gods of war have rekindled my ego.
sara weinshenk
The gods of war have rekindled my ego?
kim congdon
I understand that, though.
joe rogan
You know what that guy must have been like from when he won the world title at 20 years old to when Buster Douglas beat him?
It was just a series of executions.
It was one of the craziest things that anybody had ever seen in boxing.
Everybody was so terrified.
By the time they got in the ring with them.
They were losing before they got anywhere close to the ring.
They were terrified of this fucking guy.
He was like nobody we'd ever seen in the heavyweight division.
So you have to be extreme in every possible part of your life to be riding those RPMs.
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
Of all the men, super athletes that are great at punching people in the face.
unidentified
You excel beyond and above all of them.
kim congdon
It's insane.
Imagine how sick you are as his opponent.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
kim congdon
Like right before the fight.
unidentified
Terrified.
kim congdon
Like the feeling that you feel.
It's like that nausea.
Just you know.
You're trying to be confident, but you know.
Oh, it's sickening.
joe rogan
You've watched the videos?
unidentified
It's sick, yeah.
joe rogan
You've watched the Marvis Frazier fight?
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
The Marvis Frazier fight was one of the most terrifying boxing fights I ever saw in my life.
Because it was Marvis Frazier who was the son of the great Joe Frazier, former world heavyweight champion.
And Marvis Frazier was his son, and his son was fighting Mike Tyson in his prime.
And it was on ABC Wide World of Sports, I think.
kim congdon
What year was this?
joe rogan
This had to be like 86 or something like that.
87?
What year was that, young Jamie?
So it had to be somewhere in the 80s.
unidentified
Tyson?
Tyson Frazier, July 26th, 1986. 1986. Want to see it?
joe rogan
It's horrific.
Let's play it.
Because it's one of the most...
kim congdon
I feel like I've seen highlights, but he probably has a bunch of fights out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this is the one that you should see.
Because this was a huge fight.
Because he was the number two ranked heavyweight contender.
And he was the man.
He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
I actually have it framed in my office.
Sports Illustrated sent it to me.
It was Mike Tyson.
It said, Kid Dynamite.
And at the time, he was 19 years old.
sara weinshenk
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Look how young Jim Lampley looks.
kim congdon
Oh my god.
sara weinshenk
Oh my god.
joe rogan
So let's scoot ahead to the actual fight itself.
The fight itself was...
This is like highlights of other fights that Mike's had.
So they're basically like setting up the whole Mike Tyson story that he's the most terrifying contender that we've seen since, you know, Joe Frazier.
And Joe Frazier like kind of dismissed him in some sort of way.
There's some sort of a verbal back and forth with him and Joe Frazier.
And so this is Joe's son, Marvis.
kim congdon
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Who is fighting Mike Tyson in his fucking...
sara weinshenk
Mike Tyson in his prime is hot.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was 20 years old.
So this is before he fought for the title.
You gotta watch how terrifying this is.
sara weinshenk
Holy shit.
unidentified
He's a machine.
joe rogan
Just right away.
Bobbing and weaving.
Jab.
Big shot.
unidentified
Big shots No, no Dude.
joe rogan
Is one of the most terrifying knockouts ever.
Ever.
And that was when Mike Tyson became undeniable.
Everybody's like, oh my god, that's the man.
That's the man.
kim congdon
That man's father watched that.
joe rogan
Look at that.
He did it so swiftly.
I mean, his punches are so accurate, so fast, and so powerful.
I mean, look at that.
He's catching him on the way down.
He's out cold, and he hit him twice on the way down while he was out cold.
That's how fast he's hitting him.
unidentified
That's insane.
joe rogan
There was nobody like him.
There was nobody like him.
sara weinshenk
No.
joe rogan
I put that version of Mike Tyson, I would like to see that version against any heavyweight that ever lived.
There was like a period of time where you're like, Jesus, who's gonna beat that guy?
kim congdon
No, thank you.
joe rogan
I would have loved to have seen it.
kim congdon
I got punched in the face at Skank Fest and that was not funny.
sara weinshenk
I hated that.
kim congdon
I did a fight and this girl came in.
sara weinshenk
No, that was horrible.
I was on the sideline like, okay, I hope mommy's gonna make it.
kim congdon
She comes in.
Lewis is like, you wanna fight?
And I'm like, not really.
I'm in overalls, like, off a tab of acid.
For two days straight.
Like, no sleep.
And I had a concussion three weeks ago.
And then he's like, you wanna fight?
How'd you get a concussion?
I got a...
doing Muay Thai.
unidentified
Oh no.
kim congdon
Just the first time holding pads with this huge guy.
sara weinshenk
Oh no.
kim congdon
And I didn't know I got a concussion.
And then a few days later, we were sparring and someone hit me in the back of the head by accident.
And then when I was driving home, I lost my vision.
And then when I went to the hospital, like I said, I had post-concussive syndrome.
unidentified
Whoa.
kim congdon
Yeah.
So then I had a concussion.
joe rogan
You were holding pads for a big guy?
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And just the jolt of it gave you a concussion?
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa.
sara weinshenk
Mm-hmm.
kim congdon
The pads hitting the pad to my head.
And I could feel it because I'd get migraines after.
joe rogan
Why are you holding the pads for a big man?
kim congdon
I don't know.
sara weinshenk
That is a good question, Joe.
kim congdon
I shouldn't have been.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wouldn't let you hold the pads for me.
kim congdon
No.
joe rogan
I'd be like, don't do that.
sara weinshenk
You could hold the pads for me, though, bitch.
joe rogan
But you could if the guy was just touching them.
kim congdon
Yeah, no, he was hitting them hard.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not...
You can't really do that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Someone needs to tell him.
kim congdon
I know now.
joe rogan
Hey, bro, you need a strong person.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
A very strong person.
Some of those Thai guys are amazing, because they're not big guys.
They're like these small dudes, but they're so fucking strong at that.
Just that motion.
They have so much power.
They stop these fucking horrendous kicks with their forearms.
sara weinshenk
I have a friend who just went to Thailand for Muay Thai to train and he said just being in Muay Thai, being in Thailand as Muay Thai got so much better in such a short amount of time.
joe rogan
I would imagine.
We were just talking about that in the UFC this past weekend, because there was a story of this guy, Khalil Roundtree, who was a very good fighter, but he lost one fight to this guy, Johnny Walker, and then decided to go to Thailand and really immerse himself in Muay Thai.
And then he came back, and he was a totally different fighter.
We were like, whoa!
So much so that I had him on the podcast.
I'm like, what happened?
Tell me what happened.
What'd you do?
He just, like, realized he had to be fucking 100% all-in and serious, and he went to Thailand, learned Muay Thai, realized he had some holes in his striking game, and patched them all.
kim congdon
I feel like I would go to Thailand to do Muay Thai and then I'd spend one day at the beach and be like, I'll be there tomorrow.
joe rogan
You'd have to do some sort of like a camp.
kim congdon
No, I really like to.
I'll probably go back and do it again.
joe rogan
You gotta be careful about concussions though.
They're not fun.
kim congdon
I'm just gonna do it for fun and not so...
I was like training to do a fight at one point and like try to compete and now I'm like, I just want to do it and kind of work out.
joe rogan
That's what's good about jiu-jitsu.
There's much less of that.
You occasionally bang heads and get a knee in the face accidentally.
sara weinshenk
Selfishly.
I was like, please don't get a concussion, bitch.
The podcast will be shit if you can't think.
Maybe it'd be better.
joe rogan
Maybe it should be more reckless.
sara weinshenk
She comes in speaking in a different accent like someone after a stroke.
kim congdon
Lindsay Lohan in Dubai.
joe rogan
She comes and she can count in Chinese.
Like all of a sudden out of nowhere.
kim congdon
That is crazy when that happens to people.
joe rogan
Yeah, they get struck by lightning, like that John Travolta movie.
unidentified
Do you remember that movie?
kim congdon
Oh, fuck.
unidentified
Baby geniuses?
sara weinshenk
Phenomenon?
joe rogan
Something like that, right?
kim congdon
With an outer.
joe rogan
What was it?
Could he read minds or something afterwards?
sara weinshenk
Yeah, no, he had like superpowers.
unidentified
Phenomenon.
Yeah, something happened.
joe rogan
Yeah, he became like an angel or some shit.
jamie vernon
There's two movies.
sara weinshenk
There's Michael where he's the angel?
unidentified
I was thinking of both of them.
I can buy these two silly movies.
kim congdon
That's what people should do, movie hybrids.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's like Alien vs.
unidentified
Predator.
Yeah.
joe rogan
So the one where he got electrocuted, what kind of powers?
Oh, he became super smart, right?
I think he was like a regular dude, and then he got electrocuted.
sara weinshenk
And then he was in a bubble.
Remember the bubble boys?
jamie vernon
They came out the same year, that's probably why.
sara weinshenk
Phenomenon and Michael?
jamie vernon
In 96, they both came out.
joe rogan
96. So what was the story of Phenomenon?
He became super smart, right?
Is that the premise?
sara weinshenk
I think he had powers of some kind.
joe rogan
I think there were powers and super smart.
jamie vernon
He was a flash of light.
joe rogan
But he got hit by a lightning.
Doesn't say it?
sara weinshenk
He becomes a genius.
joe rogan
He's exhibit extraordinary mental abilities.
He becomes a genius.
This is what everybody wants.
Nobody wants to work really hard to be a genius.
Everybody wants to just get hit by lightning.
sara weinshenk
This was my mom's favorite movie when I was a kid.
joe rogan
For people who lived in the 90s, this is the perfect movie.
kim congdon
I have never seen or heard of this movie.
sara weinshenk
This is my mom's favorite movie when I was a kid.
kim congdon
My mom's was Titanic.
joe rogan
You got a beautiful handsome man who's kind of, you know, nothing's really good happening to him.
You know, it's kind of boring.
All of a sudden he gets hit by lightning.
kim congdon
He's a genius.
Not the lightning coming slowly at him.
That was the slowest lightning.
unidentified
Did you hear a noise?
Did you hear it?
The man's inebriated.
I'm not drunk.
joe rogan
Can't sleep.
And you?
unidentified
What's happening here, George?
kim congdon
Not the dog.
Oh, it's the best movie of all time.
joe rogan
Keep it going.
unidentified
Keep it going.
joe rogan
We should get barbecued and watch this.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
And do like a fight companion.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
And we break down this movie phenomenon.
Yes!
So I think they're saying, like, the aliens gave him a blast.
Is that what it looked like?
jamie vernon
Yeah, because I feel like the same time, too.
Yeah, Fire in the Sky came around this time, too.
kim congdon
Oh, they were trying to do aliens.
joe rogan
Fire in the Sky is about this guy.
This is Travis Walton.
Do you know the story of Fire in the Sky?
unidentified
No.
Wait.
kim congdon
No, but I didn't expect the bubble when I turned back.
unidentified
I didn't either.
He gave it to me.
It was a gift.
kim congdon
That's crazy.
unidentified
It was a gift.
joe rogan
Thank you, Trevor.
It sits right here.
Firing this guy was amazing.
kim congdon
What the hell is happening?
joe rogan
Well, it's this man's story.
The real Travis Walton came in the podcast and told us a story when he was a In his early 20s, he was a logger, and they were going down this road, and they saw this thing.
They don't know what it is, this bright light that came and landed near where the road was.
And so they got out of the car, they stopped the car, and Travis, I guess he was kind of a wild man, he ran towards the thing.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
He got towards the thing, and they all said there was some burst of light, he fell to the ground, and then they panicked.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Hold on, they panicked.
They took off.
They drive off, and then they start screaming in the car, we can't fucking leave, we gotta go back, we gotta go back and get him.
Let's go back and get him.
They turn around, they go back, he's gone.
He's missing for five days.
Five days later, he makes a phone call to the police.
He says, I don't know what happened.
He tries to explain.
He gets abducted by a fucking UFO and they fix him.
Whatever happened to him when he got hit by this blast of energy, he says that they realized he was going to die.
So they took him aboard and they repaired him.
kim congdon
I like that.
joe rogan
And then they brought him back.
It is a fucking wild story, if it's true.
And this movie was kind of fun.
sara weinshenk
Whoa, I want to see this movie.
joe rogan
But the movie's got a lot of shit in it.
It's not real.
It keeps kind of explaining.
But for the most part, they kind of got the story right.
And by the way, there was multiple sightings of UFOs in this area.
sara weinshenk
What area was it?
joe rogan
Where was it?
Exactly.
The whole story is so fun.
I want to believe it so bad.
I mean, the guy had the same story forever.
He hasn't changed it.
And that's always interesting to me, that this person would tell this story their whole life.
I mean, here he was now.
He was in this...
Okay, White Mountains, Northeastern Arizona.
kim congdon
Arizona, that makes sense because that's all those, like, portals, the energy portals and shit there.
unidentified
Right?
kim congdon
Those.
joe rogan
Who really knows about those?
kim congdon
Right?
Do people know about those?
sara weinshenk
In Sedona, there's vortexes.
kim congdon
We ran into some fucking weird shit in Arizona.
sara weinshenk
Oh!
kim congdon
We ran into this place.
We drove by it.
joe rogan
You girls are doing acid four out of five days.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
You could run into weird shit at Wendy's.
unidentified
No, no, no.
kim congdon
We did think we ran into Bono at In-N-Out once.
sara weinshenk
Remember what I did?
kim congdon
Yeah, you asked for a picture.
sara weinshenk
Okay, first of all, I thought it was Bono for sure.
unidentified
She was trying to fuck this fake Bono.
sara weinshenk
The Bono impersonator at In-N-Out really got me.
I go, Kim, sit down.
Bono's coming.
kim congdon
She's yelling at me to behave.
joe rogan
How close was it?
Like eight out of ten?
kim congdon
It was close.
sara weinshenk
We had a picture.
kim congdon
I hope not.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen Chinese Elon Musk?
sara weinshenk
No, but I want to.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
kim congdon
It's amazing.
Chi-Long Musk.
joe rogan
It's like if they really cloned him and they added some sort of dominant Chinese DNA. Is it a real person?
Look at this.
sara weinshenk
No!
kim congdon
Jamie, how did you do that?
sara weinshenk
With a fake Bono at In-N-Out.
joe rogan
That guy, you thought that guy was Bono?
sara weinshenk
I was very high.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
kim congdon
Look at Sarah.
jamie vernon
He's trying to look like him though a little bit.
He's trying.
joe rogan
Is he really?
kim congdon
Sarah has love in her eyes too.
joe rogan
Is he a musician as well?
jamie vernon
Yeah, that'd be hilarious.
sara weinshenk
What we're saying is embarrassing.
kim congdon
Look at the people behind us laughing at us.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's kill it.
unidentified
Kill it.
joe rogan
This is embarrassing.
I'm embarrassed for them.
kim congdon
You think that's bad.
joe rogan
Fake Bono.
That's the tip of the iceberg, ladies.
sara weinshenk
Fake Bono?
kim congdon
Sometimes you get got by a fake Bono.
sara weinshenk
And sometimes you start telling fake Bono about your projects.
kim congdon
Do not bring up the audio.
unidentified
I'll cut it.
joe rogan
Your projects.
Well, what I'm working on now.
sara weinshenk
Listen, we just did this thing called stone science where we get high and we do science experiments.
We're high right now.
joe rogan
That is a uniquely LA experience.
When you talk to someone and then they immediately tell you their projects they're working on.
unidentified
We wanted Bono to do a science experiment with us.
kim congdon
We weren't bragging.
We wanted to bring a monster.
unidentified
We had a genius idea while we were having a wild style fry.
kim congdon
What do they call them?
sara weinshenk
Animal style.
joe rogan
Animal style.
sara weinshenk
Not wild style.
joe rogan
When you meet somebody though, how many times do you meet somebody and they tell you all the stuff they're doing?
unidentified
So much that I don't even go there.
joe rogan
It's like wasted time before we get to talk.
kim congdon
It'll make you not friendly.
sara weinshenk
Hi, I have an agent.
It's like, what?
We just met.
kim congdon
People literally say the words, what are you working on to me?
Every week.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
joe rogan
Because they're all obsessed.
sara weinshenk
I'm like, but imagine.
kim congdon
It's like, I want to go through the things I'm working on.
A checklist of the things I'm working on with you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kim congdon
It's a weird thing to say.
sara weinshenk
It is.
And I'm embarrassed.
I brought it up to fake Bono, actually.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you didn't know what to do.
You panicked.
sara weinshenk
I panicked.
And let me tell you.
joe rogan
Did you know he was fake Bono at that point?
sara weinshenk
No.
kim congdon
We were high off our minds.
You're right.
sara weinshenk
I thought that was real Bono.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
After talking to him?
kim congdon
Is that real Bono?
It kind of looks like.
joe rogan
That's real Bono.
kim congdon
That looked like fake Bono.
Yep.
Can we bring up a side to side?
joe rogan
Fake Bono looks better.
sara weinshenk
That's what my mom said.
joe rogan
Imagine.
sara weinshenk
My mom looks at fake Bono and goes, fake Bono's nose is nicer than real Bono's nose.
kim congdon
This looks like the guy at In-N-Out to me.
jamie vernon
Real Bono's way older than that guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, Real Bono.
Looks rough.
jamie vernon
I was bringing this up.
They're touring that new sphere in Vegas.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
sara weinshenk
I love watching their shows from the 90s.
joe rogan
Do you know what this sphere in Vegas, do you guys know what this is?
sara weinshenk
No.
joe rogan
They're going to be able to do the whole thing in LEDs.
So the entire sphere, the inside of it, there's all these visuals and maps and everything.
It's fucking amazing.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's what they're going to be able to do in there.
sara weinshenk
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's great.
This is like one of the biggest entertainment projects that any company's ever taken on.
Like, this is nuts.
This thing is really nuts.
sara weinshenk
So when is it opening?
jamie vernon
Later this year, like in the fall, I think they've already announced some of the dates for their show.
That's why they're starting to sort of show stuff.
sara weinshenk
I want to go see you two in Vegas!
joe rogan
What does it cost to run a fucking show?
The lights for the whole building like that?
The walls?
unidentified
That has to be insane overhead.
joe rogan
Insane.
Insane.
Just to turn everything on.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, if I leave the lights on for two days, it's insane.
So I can't even imagine at the sphere.
jamie vernon
They're going to have up to four shows a day, too.
joe rogan
And how good is the software?
sara weinshenk
Oh my god.
joe rogan
What if it's like fucking Windows 98?
What if it's crashing and shit?
What if it overheats?
unidentified
Look at it!
jamie vernon
The outside is also LEDs.
joe rogan
Isn't that amazing?
sara weinshenk
No, that's so cool.
joe rogan
Wait, so- The outside is LEDs.
That is amazing.
sara weinshenk
Four shows a night?
joe rogan
It's going to look like the fucking earth!
sara weinshenk
Wow!
unidentified
I think this is definitely rendering, but they should be able to make it look like the earth.
joe rogan
Oh my god, if they can make it look like the earth, I'm going to move to Vegas.
sara weinshenk
I just want to stare at it.
Yeah, same!
Same!
I want to have the experience.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's wild.
sara weinshenk
Did you watch that Elvis movie?
joe rogan
I did.
sara weinshenk
That was sad.
It made me sad.
It made me feel bad for Elvis.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it was sad.
sara weinshenk
They're like shooting him up with drugs so he could keep going.
joe rogan
The real Elvis was sad in a lot of ways.
But it's also, he was traveling down a road where there was no map.
sara weinshenk
That's true.
joe rogan
There was no people that were that famous back then.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
There was him, and then there was the Beatles, and there was a few before the Buddy Hollies, and there's some people that got pretty famous.
You know?
But they didn't get that famous.
That was crazy famous.
Weirdly famous.
sara weinshenk
Weirdly famous.
joe rogan
Yeah, he got to that...
When he did that comeback special, and he's on stage, and there's the intimate audience with people, and people got to see the real Elvis, and then America fell in love with him again.
Like, that guy.
That guy was living in a very strange frequency that very few human beings ever get to exist in.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And no one had done it before.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, and when he first came out, people were like, this man's gyrating.
This is XXX stuff.
And it's so funny.
joe rogan
Well, you've got to realize that television didn't even get invented until, like, what was it, 1930?
What was it?
What was the first television?
jamie vernon
We're going to find it.
Everyone didn't have them at home at first.
joe rogan
What was the first one that they invented?
A lot of people didn't have them for a long-ass time.
1941. 1941, okay.
jamie vernon
Well, that was the first commercial television.
Oh, that's not correct.
joe rogan
The first commercial television, like you can buy?
jamie vernon
That's the first television commercial.
joe rogan
Oh, television commercial.
Oh, they figured out how to make money.
At the beginning, they were just broadcasting shit.
We're going to do a play with puppets.
unidentified
They could do anything back then.
joe rogan
No one knew what was good or bad.
sara weinshenk
It was all new.
joe rogan
People would watch some of the dumbest things just because they were just like, I can't believe there's moving things in front of me.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, that's crazy.
joe rogan
People watch some really dumb stuff, and then they figured out that it looked kind of dumb, and then they started getting better at that.
But all that stuff is so recent.
So if they did that in the 1930s and 40s, like the first TVs from 41, by the time...
That was it?
jamie vernon
It was in the 30s, it sounded like...
I'm looking at...
It's telling me that on the Wikipedia, they had stuff going back into the 1800s.
I'm like, well, what...
joe rogan
What the fuck are you talking about?
kim congdon
You mean commercials in general?
joe rogan
No, I mean television.
jamie vernon
Boxes that have cathode ray tubes and shit.
joe rogan
The thing that happened with Elvis is this is the first guy ever that is...
unidentified
You're wearing Elvis.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
I didn't even notice it until right now.
joe rogan
Roots of Fight.
Get it before they sell out.
But that thing about Elvis is that there was no media before him, right?
So when you're dealing with 10 years before that, 20 years before that, you don't have it.
There's no TV. There's no Ed Sullivan show.
There's no nothing.
So now all of a sudden there is.
And now all of a sudden this guy is on TV singing these songs and he's got this fucking perfect hair and he's wiggling his hips and everybody goes fucking crazy!
sara weinshenk
This is so new.
kim congdon
This is so new.
They're like, this is sexual.
joe rogan
It's so new to everybody except black people because he's hanging out with them and that's where he learned everything.
That was part of the problem too.
kim congdon
He's like, that's my cousins dance!
Hey!
unidentified
My cousin taught him that!
joe rogan
He didn't know what to do.
The pills probably helped him alleviate his anxiety and they probably kept feeding him the pills because he'll keep performing if you keep feeding him the pills and he's caught.
And then when people...
How would they even clean someone up back then?
How do you clean up Elvis?
Are you going to tell him you got to clean up?
sara weinshenk
Well, remember, they couldn't because he had that residency and his manager didn't want him to stop performing either.
So that guy was working against him too, which I did not like.
kim congdon
Well, that's...
joe rogan
Well, that guy was a gambling chunky, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, that was...
joe rogan
I don't know how much of the story is embellished in the movie, but the story they tell in the movie is like, wow.
sara weinshenk
Whoa.
And I can't even look at Tom Hanks the same way ever since he played...
joe rogan
He's amazing.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, he played amazing.
joe rogan
He's amazing at being that creepy old dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
He killed it.
kim congdon
Tom Hanks is one of those actors that can be anybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a few of those guys out there and gals.
When you watch that movie, though, you got to think, like, Michael Jackson is kind of a similar story.
Yeah.
But even weirder.
Because Michael Jackson cracks when he's, like, six or seven.
Like, how old was he when they were singing ABC? How old was that?
sara weinshenk
Young.
joe rogan
And he was a baby.
kim congdon
He was under ten, right?
sara weinshenk
Definitely.
I don't know.
joe rogan
See, pull that up.
Pull...
The Jackson 5 ABC. 1970. Okay.
So, Elvis had already existed, right?
And you already have big bands.
There's Led Zeppelin.
There's a lot of very, very, very, very famous people.
But then there's Michael Jackson.
kim congdon
This may be so ignorant, but it's so wild to me that Elvis and Led Zeppelin are in the same.
unidentified
I think.
kim congdon
Conversation.
unidentified
He's so little.
kim congdon
He's a baby.
joe rogan
You say he's 11 or 12?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
I mean, come on.
cute Look at him Her dad's in the background like holding a belt.
kim congdon
He finished the song.
joe rogan
You gotta realize, those are all...
Keep it going, bro.
You gotta realize, are we getting in trouble?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
Is it gonna be copywriters, one of those things?
Okay, okay.
When that young man was singing in front of his older brothers, you know how crazy that is?
You got all these older competitive brothers that have been in show business their whole life, and all of a sudden this young motherfucker is kissed by God and has this thing where he can just fucking dance and sing and it's so compelling.
sara weinshenk
Could you imagine being in a family band?
kim congdon
And being the star.
And being the star.
It probably made him feel a little weird.
joe rogan
It had to be weird.
I mean, it had to be weird if you're like a regular person, and you got a person like your brother or your sister, and they can do the same thing that everybody in the whole family is doing, but they just do it better than everybody.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, how?
Where's that coming from?
kim congdon
It's crazy.
sara weinshenk
He's so little.
joe rogan
Come on, it's adorable.
kim congdon
It is really cute.
unidentified
Look, he's got gold rings on him.
Incredible.
joe rogan
Look at him dancing.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It was amazing.
He was an amazing talent.
And then he became like Elvis.
Like, too unmanageable.
Unmanageable fame.
Yeah.
kim congdon
I like the videos of whenever people jump on stage with him and then he just lets it happen.
joe rogan
Michael Jackson does?
kim congdon
Yeah, the Chinese dude that jumps on stage and he holds him and lifts him up into the air.
joe rogan
That might have been a setup.
I don't think the security is going to allow some guy to just grab Michael Jackson and carry him on.
kim congdon
It seems like people slip through.
jamie vernon
I don't know, this is crazy.
joe rogan
Is this real?
jamie vernon
I don't know how he would get up there.
kim congdon
I think they lowered the crane for a minute and the fan jumps on this guy.
joe rogan
Maybe it's in China or something.
kim congdon
Or in Japan.
Is it Japanese?
sara weinshenk
Look at that man.
He's having the time of his life.
joe rogan
Where is this taking place?
Michael's holding on to him tight.
Oh, it's in Korea.
So he's Korean.
kim congdon
Korean, yes.
joe rogan
So this is just a fan?
kim congdon
I mean, it looks like they're in a relationship.
unidentified
He's probably in a basement right now working for Samsung.
joe rogan
Chained to the wall.
kim congdon
No, no.
joe rogan
What did you do?
kim congdon
Look how happy he is.
joe rogan
He's super happy.
kim congdon
This is the best moment of his life.
The security who's about to get fired?
They need to get fucked up.
joe rogan
So look, they just grab the guy and maul him now.
Wait, wait, wait, why, why, why, why?
kim congdon
I know, they obviously have a maul.
Because they know they're in trouble.
And they have to double down on him.
joe rogan
That's real.
That seems real as fuck.
He handled it.
Probably sung the whole time.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
sara weinshenk
I wish you weren't on here with me.
kim congdon
Didn't miss a note.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But that guy, he got into that weird stratosphere.
I don't want to repeat Tony Hinchcliffe's joke, but he got so good that people didn't care about the allegations against him.
That's how good, people still listen to his music.
There's a lot of people that have like, R. Kelly's off the playlist.
sara weinshenk
They let him go.
kim congdon
Dude, Woody Allen.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's another one.
kim congdon
People are just like, it's cool.
And I'm like...
joe rogan
They did his movies.
kim congdon
The movies won.
Isn't that crazy?
The art was so good.
sara weinshenk
When the movies are good, the movies are good, sweetie.
I don't know what to tell you.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a very specific...
sara weinshenk
Annie Hall?
joe rogan
Oh my god, he had some amazing movies.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
He had some great movies.
It's just a wild boy.
kim congdon
Not a wild boy.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
I don't know what to say, you know, about that.
sara weinshenk
Do it a little later.
joe rogan
I do.
sara weinshenk
Can I see it?
kim congdon
Fuck, dude.
Chick, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Shit does get crazy.
What a terrible segue that is though.
unidentified
It's like if you're on stage and you try out a new joke.
joe rogan
Shit gets crazy.
jamie vernon
I can bring it back to this.
joe rogan
Oh, Chimp Empire.
kim congdon
It's because no matter what you say about Michael Jackson, it always ends with, well, the music was good.
joe rogan
It's sad.
It's a fucking terrible, sad story over life.
But the impact that he had on so many fucking people.
kim congdon
But this, the camera work.
joe rogan
This is what I don't understand.
How did they do this?
sara weinshenk
Wait, I want to see this.
kim congdon
How am I seeing this?
It's so clear.
joe rogan
That's what's crazy.
I don't know where they were.
I don't know how they captured it, but they captured everything.
It's incredible.
It's so good.
This documentary is so good.
It's a series.
I don't know how many episodes.
I'm four in, I think.
sara weinshenk
I'm watching this tonight.
joe rogan
It's so good.
It's so compelling.
sara weinshenk
So do they seem like little humans?
kim congdon
It came out on your birthday, Shank.
sara weinshenk
I know.
joe rogan
Well, there's certainly, you know, we share a common ancestor, and you can see that in a lot of their behavior, but they're fascinating.
Forget about whether or not they're like us.
Just they are absolutely fascinating.
They're social hierarchies.
They wage war on each other.
They control resources.
They control where certain bands of them are not allowed to grow into this area because it's their fruit.
kim congdon
Are all those parts of them also like us?
joe rogan
Yes!
A lot like us.
A lot like us.
sara weinshenk
My psychiatrist references monkeys all the time and primates.
joe rogan
So these guys were out there just hanging out with them until the chimps got comfortable with them?
Is that what they did?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they're walking through there with all sorts of cameras and drones.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
They might have stopped that meal because they ate a lot of monkeys.
That's one thing about this documentary.
sara weinshenk
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, they eat monkeys.
sara weinshenk
What?
joe rogan
They love to eat monkeys.
They catch them all the time.
kim congdon
This is like the Chow's.
joe rogan
In like three episodes, they'd killed at least two or three monkeys.
kim congdon
No way.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, they kill monkeys every time they can.
sara weinshenk
Chimps kill monkeys?
kim congdon
That would be traumatic to watch.
unidentified
All the time.
joe rogan
This is just wild that these people are out there with these chimps.
kim congdon
They had a video of a cameraman getting dragged by a gorilla into the woods.
joe rogan
It wasn't even a cameraman, I don't think, right?
kim congdon
It wasn't?
joe rogan
Was it?
kim congdon
I don't know.
joe rogan
It was something like that, though.
kim congdon
This is some Jane Goodall shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, like a film crew.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, I want to watch this for sure.
kim congdon
This is wild.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
sara weinshenk
Smoke a blunt and watch some chimps.
joe rogan
The footage they got is the most insane footage I've ever seen anybody capture of wildlife.
The fact that these chimpanzees got so comfortable with them and watched as they waged war on each other.
These guys like moved around with them and they let them move around with them.
They didn't see them as a threat.
They didn't see them as their friend and they did all their normal chimpanzee shit.
kim congdon
This is like that movie they did with those animals.
What was it?
They put all the different species of animals together and Tippi Hendren was in it.
joe rogan
What movie are you talking about?
kim congdon
Tippi Hendren was in it and they put a bunch of the staff died and it's the reason...
joe rogan
Oh, the lion movie!
unidentified
That's right!
joe rogan
We were going to have a fight companion to Roar.
kim congdon
The first time I saw that, I was on Mushrooms.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's supposed to be the dumbest movie ever.
unidentified
It is.
kim congdon
It's crazy.
joe rogan
And they used real cats.
sara weinshenk
And she had them in her house, Tippi Hedren.
You can find videos in the 60s of her with the cats.
kim congdon
This is crazy.
joe rogan
These people are out of their fucking minds.
sara weinshenk
Oh, hell no.
joe rogan
Absolutely not.
Out of their fucking minds.
Yeah, we're just sleeping nice and comfortable while our cats, who never get to kill anything, but desperately want to, don't kill us.
kim congdon
How did the cats...
No, this was the craziest movie to watch.
joe rogan
This is so dumb, that they did this movie with real cats, and they got out there and brawled with real cats.
No animals were harmed in the making of this film.
70 members of the cast and crew were.
kim congdon
I think hundreds of animals died, by the way.
joe rogan
70. 70 people got bit by big cats.
Oh, my God.
How many people died?
kim congdon
I think a couple died.
jamie vernon
Had to have.
kim congdon
A couple and a lot of animals.
joe rogan
Yeah, if no one died, the story sucks.
kim congdon
No, people died.
People died, and she says that she thinks she lost her earring because of it.
Bad karma.
joe rogan
Bad karma.
Because people died?
kim congdon
Yeah, my friend.
sara weinshenk
She had hearing loss because of karma?
kim congdon
That's a Tippi set.
sara weinshenk
Maybe just went deaf.
kim congdon
That's a thing a woman named Tippi would say.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, right?
There's these photos of Tippi's house and inside she has the lions just at home.
In her mid-century modern living room.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Dude.
What are you doing?
What the fuck are you doing?
kim congdon
How do you even live comfortably?
joe rogan
I don't think you really do.
kim congdon
I think you like the fear.
There's something about those kind of people that they like knowing that the animals listen to them even though they don't have to.
joe rogan
I guess, but it's just like it's a gamble that you can only lose once.
Like you can have a dog and the dog can grouch or maybe even bite you, but it's not probably going to kill you.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Most likely your dog's not going to kill you unless you're a real piece of shit.
sara weinshenk
Right.
joe rogan
You beat your dog constantly or something.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Some crazy...
You know, beast of a dog.
sara weinshenk
Right.
joe rogan
But most of the time, they're just gonna bite you.
kim congdon
Right.
jamie vernon
I don't think anybody died.
joe rogan
No?
unidentified
Goddamn it.
jamie vernon
There was a lot of crazy...
Somebody got scalped.
kim congdon
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
Wait, I'm sorry.
Scalped seems worse than death.
Right?
joe rogan
Well, maybe they sewed it back on.
They could probably sew it back on.
kim congdon
I assumed when I heard scalped it was dead.
joe rogan
Ooh.
kim congdon
Yeah, that seems like you're gone.
joe rogan
220 sutures.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's just probably like a scratch from a claw.
Probably like, get the fuck out of my face, bitch, with that camera.
jamie vernon
He went back to work.
joe rogan
Oh my god, he went back to work.
sara weinshenk
If I got scalped, I would not be going back to work.
joe rogan
Do you think they're addicted to being around those things?
They're just addicted to the fear and the energy?
kim congdon
They like the, yeah, they like that feeling.
sara weinshenk
The adrenaline.
kim congdon
The adrenaline, yeah.
joe rogan
Do you think you could understand that?
Like, do you think you would feel the same way if you were in control of some cat?
Like, that's what I, when I was watching Tiger King, Tiger King!
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
When I was watching Tiger King, I was like, maybe that's fun.
Maybe it's fun to have a bunch of big giant-ass cats listen to you.
kim congdon
I don't feel that.
I feel that when I see prison shows, though.
I'm like, running in a prison gang would seem fun.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Most members of the crew were injured.
Most, including DeBont, who was scalped by cherries, I guess that's the cat's name, while he was filming under a tarpaulin.
He received 220 sutures but resumed his duties after recovering.
Togar, one of the lead lions, bit assistant director Darren Copper in the throat and jaw and tried to pull off one of his ears.
After Copper unintentionally cued an attack.
kim congdon
Feels like we're reading one of Mike Tyson's fights.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Copper also received injuries to his scalp, chest, and thigh, and he was admitted to Palmdale General Hospital where he had to undergo four and a half hours of surgery.
Although the attack was reported as nearly fatal, a nurse told Santa Cruz Sentinel reporter that Copper's injuries were acute, sudden, and traumatic, but that he was conscious and in fair condition after the surgery.
Holy shit.
jamie vernon
20 people quit after that day.
joe rogan
Yeah, after witnessing attacks, 20 crew members left to say, I want to know who didn't leave.
Who's like, this fucking job rules!
unidentified
Are you kidding me, man?
joe rogan
I saw I got bit.
unidentified
I'm watching bitches getting scalped.
joe rogan
They let you drink.
Bro, they get benefits.
unidentified
I get time and a half now that everyone's dead.
kim congdon
That was a young Tiger King.
unidentified
Wow.
sara weinshenk
Dude, when I was watching Tiger King, I remember thinking, these people are crazy, and I'm watching it, and I'm wearing, at the time, a cheetah robe, cheetah pants.
I love a wild cat print.
joe rogan
I think that's slightly different in the experience of being around them, but I see where you're going with that.
There's like a distant call from it, from the past.
sara weinshenk
I feel like I have a little bit of the mental illness, if you know what I mean.
Look, I like The Prince.
kim congdon
It wasn't about the tigers.
sara weinshenk
For me, it was about the clothes.
joe rogan
If you were a woman, and you lived like a thousand years ago, and you were wearing some tiger skins, you were a bad bitch.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Somebody gave you some tiger skin.
kim congdon
Someone hunted that tiger for you.
joe rogan
Someone had to go fuck up a tiger for you.
kim congdon
That's true.
joe rogan
Make you a coat.
kim congdon
That's how you show up.
unidentified
You got that good thing.
sara weinshenk
You got that good pussy.
You saw that.
kim congdon
You got tiger skin pussy.
joe rogan
Flossing on bitches with a tiger robe.
kim congdon
You walk by some girls just wearing goat.
unidentified
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
You're like, ooh.
unidentified
Yikes!
sara weinshenk
You're poor.
joe rogan
One session involved a leopard licking Hedren's face, which had been coated in honey.
Hedren considered to be one of the most dangerous scenes she agreed to film, as though handlers were 8 feet 2.4 meters away.
They would not have been able to stop the cat from biting her.
Oh my god!
And the scenes were some of this...
Where some of the big cats are shot and killed by hunters, the effect was achieved by filming the animals when they were tranquilized for their annual blood draw.
Oh, so they fuck with these cats and occasionally they shoot them and tranquilize them to draw blood from them.
sara weinshenk
Dude.
joe rogan
So they're always on high alert.
Because every year they get tranked.
Every year they get tranked!
kim congdon
Not the paranoid lions on set.
sara weinshenk
Don't trank me!
joe rogan
When I was in Thailand, let me tell you something about Thailand.
sara weinshenk
Oh yeah, tell us.
joe rogan
They have these tiger sanctuaries, and there's different kinds of tigers, okay?
There's the baby tigers that they actually let you be around, the little baby ones.
kim congdon
Okay.
sara weinshenk
So cute.
joe rogan
And then there's the slightly older tigers where they let you be around, and there's a bunch of people around them.
And everyone's just kind of like, keeping a track of this little motherfucker, don't get crazy.
And then there's tigers that are drugged.
When they get after a certain age, the big ones, they're just drugged.
No ifs, ands, or buts about.
They're sitting there like this.
And you're like, oh no.
And then people go in and take pictures with the drugged cats.
sara weinshenk
That's sad.
unidentified
It's like, I get you want a selfie, but this ain't the way to do it.
kim congdon
No, that's really bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a bummer.
sara weinshenk
That is a bummer.
joe rogan
That was a bummer.
sara weinshenk
Only thing more depressing is the fact that Kim's keeping those plants inside her apartment.
Set them outside where they belong, bro.
kim congdon
Set them free.
Not my prisoner, Monstera.
joe rogan
Let them free.
kim congdon
I'm going to get canceled for a Monstera.
sara weinshenk
Free the plant!
joe rogan
If the whole world becomes a city, what do we do with tigers?
sara weinshenk
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, if the whole world becomes a city, do they just only exist in zoos?
sara weinshenk
That is a sad thought.
joe rogan
Can you imagine how crazy that would be?
sara weinshenk
I think we...
joe rogan
If overpopulation really does hit some insane tipping point with technology where we can just expand, we can make food out of thin air, and everybody's happy.
sara weinshenk
3D prints a hamburger.
joe rogan
Everybody just keeps fucking and keeps shitting out kids, and we just spread them all over the country.
All over the world.
Shitting out kids.
Every patch of land everywhere.
sara weinshenk
Just sneezing out babies.
kim congdon
More kids in Missouri.
More kids in Orlando.
joe rogan
We realize that once we're connected to the global hive mind, that the more people there are, the smarter we get.
So if we could just get more people, the more people we get, we could achieve God status.
But we have to have like an extra hundred billion people.
sara weinshenk
But this is my question.
Isn't the sperm getting less potent?
joe rogan
Is that what you say?
Are you a connoisseur?
Are you a sommelier of Steve Haynes?
sara weinshenk
I say sperm sommelier.
I'll let you know.
joe rogan
It's like a lot less tangy.
unidentified
A lot less dense these days.
kim congdon
Sperms changed, you know.
sara weinshenk
Tastes a lot less potent these days.
joe rogan
I used to date a lot of guys who were into kimchi.
unidentified
Let me tell you.
joe rogan
Those days of fermentation.
kim congdon
I don't know why the sperm tastes like skim milk now.
unidentified
Skim milk.
kim congdon
Skimming skim milk.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not a good time for morale.
kim congdon
It's a bad time for sperm.
joe rogan
A lot of guys need to join a CrossFit gym.
sara weinshenk
Pineapple juice.
joe rogan
We need to get going.
Yeah.
Yeah, supposedly sperm's dropping.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, so...
joe rogan
But that's supposedly, at least by Dr. Shanna Swan.
She wrote a book about it called Countdown.
And it's about plastics, microplastics.
sara weinshenk
Yes!
BPA's taking away the sperm, okay?
joe rogan
Not just that.
It's like, fuck it with people's reproductive systems.
kim congdon
Right.
sara weinshenk
Great.
Cool, cool, cool.
joe rogan
There's some real evidence that point to that's what happens with mammals.
You know, it's interesting that the tank gets smaller.
That's how they find out that there's some sort of feminizing going on.
Is that in mammals, that's one of the best ways to tell.
Like when you're looking at a gerbil, what is that?
A gerbil's taint?
Is that a vagina or a penis?
It's so small.
Well, the size of the taint.
Because the male taint is 50 to 100% larger than the female's taint.
The gap is wider.
kim congdon
You guys have a lot of land over there.
joe rogan
A lot of useless land.
kim congdon
Yeah, a lot of free space.
joe rogan
Space is like a guy's dick and his assholes like America.
sara weinshenk
Wow.
joe rogan
It's a lot of stuff that you could do a lot of things with.
You're like, what's this overpopulation when you fly over the Bayer Canyon?
kim congdon
Yeah, but it's a location problem.
joe rogan
I'm just going to leave everybody here.
This is a lot of space.
It's not a space issue.
You bitches need to make new cities.
But anyway, it shrinks.
The introduction of these things called phthalates, they somehow or another fuck with the reproductive systems of mammals.
And one of the things that happens is that their taints become smaller.
kim congdon
The BPA is taking the taint.
joe rogan
The penises become smaller, testicles, sperm count drops.
kim congdon
Let me tell you, I've had some guys with some BPA issues.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's also with women, there's more miscarriages.
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
Yeah, with women, it seems like it's harder, like, statistically since your introduction of these things.
sara weinshenk
It just got real when you said miscarriage.
joe rogan
Yeah, because if you go back to when they first started having these petrochemical products and people started having plastic in their world most of the time, there's a correlating, not necessarily causing, but there's a correlating drop in sperm count that goes like this.
It's also like culture.
It's also hard times make hard men.
These are fucking soft times.
They make soft men.
Soft men make hard times.
We're like in that spot.
We're in that spot.
sara weinshenk
I'm sick of these soft men making these hard times, Joe.
kim congdon
Yeah, please.
Can we switch it and reverse it?
sara weinshenk
Hard men, soft times.
joe rogan
The problem is these hard men in other parts of the world.
That's part of the problem.
And they see some of the nonsense that goes on in this country and they're like, these people are ripe for the picking.
Let's invent TikTok and captivate the younger audience.
sara weinshenk
But like TikTok in China, like the youth is getting smarter.
Their TikTok algorithms are better and ours are just dancing.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're celebrating like science achievements and martial arts.
kim congdon
They have a different algorithm.
sara weinshenk
Here's my daily routine.
joe rogan
I think kids are not allowed to use it at night too.
I think it shuts off from like 10 p.m.
to 6 a.m.
for kids.
kim congdon
They tried to add a stem channel to TikTok now to make it seem like anyone's going over there.
joe rogan
Listen, you know what you did.
kim congdon
You're going to have to take away the funny video first because I'm not choosing between the two.
joe rogan
I am fascinated by people's quest for attention, that they'll find all sorts of different ways to read naughty books with their glasses on and with their boobs hanging out.
It's so, like, everybody's got their hook, you know?
Like, I'm the hot fisherwoman, and I'm the this and that, and I'm the guy who lives on the farm, and I'll tell you what it's like.
Everybody's got this, like, hook.
kim congdon
The ASMR thing?
People spring into the...
joe rogan
Love that.
You know what I love?
I love watching people fix things.
Like, take an old lighter and, like, refurbish it and bring it back to life and, like, clean it all off and shit.
I don't know why.
It's so satisfying.
sara weinshenk
It's satisfying.
joe rogan
Old watches.
I take an old watch out and clean it all.
kim congdon
It's so funny.
I have the woman version of that where I like...
I have clean TikTok where I watch women clean things.
sara weinshenk
I swear to God.
unidentified
You love men clean, too!
kim congdon
I have the complete opposite.
joe rogan
You like watching them clean stuff?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Deep clean stuff.
kim congdon
And it's viral.
A lot of people watch, but it's satisfying.
unidentified
Wow.
kim congdon
The way that you liked building something, I liked watching cleaning.
sara weinshenk
I like watching zit popping videos.
joe rogan
Everybody does.
kim congdon
Not me.
joe rogan
Not you?
kim congdon
Nope.
joe rogan
Dr. Pimple Popper?
unidentified
Oh, the best!
joe rogan
She's the goat.
unidentified
She's the goat!
joe rogan
She's the one who recognized that there was a market for this.
sara weinshenk
Yes!
And when I watch it, it makes me salivate.
I'm like, yes, get rid of it all.
joe rogan
Tom Segura has a real problem with some of them.
And because of fucking doing your mom's house live, which of you guys have never done, you'll be so horrified at the videos that they dig up.
So every time I find a nasty zit, just some horrible one that she's got where it's just brown custard coming out and quartz coming out of some guy's back.
sara weinshenk
I love watching it.
It's satisfying to know the germs are leaving the bod.
joe rogan
It's weird, though.
It's like, how'd you let it stay in there that long?
kim congdon
That's what I know.
joe rogan
Why'd I get a horn growing out of your shoulder?
kim congdon
I start imagining it popping by accident in the wrong place, and then my imagination gets fucked.
It's like, now how many pimple popped things are there in the world?
joe rogan
It's weird when they pull ones out and it leaves a crater.
You had like a knot in there.
kim congdon
A crater.
joe rogan
You see those giant blackheads they pull out?
unidentified
She pulls them out.
joe rogan
I want to see it, but then I don't want to see it.
Because now I'm left with a question.
After the next TikTok rolls around, it's like, what happened to the hole?
Did you guys fill up the hole?
kim congdon
I hate that.
joe rogan
Put a bandaid over it?
Does he just have a hole in his back now?
sara weinshenk
Well, if it's a woman, you just put a little makeup to fill the crater.
And sometimes you could see a crater.
joe rogan
A spackle?
sara weinshenk
Yeah, a little spackle when the makeup wears off.
Nothing worse than a spackled zit.
joe rogan
If they come up with real gene editing that allows people to be whatever the fuck they want to be, I want a blue-eyed baby like that.
No, like you now.
What if they get to the point where we can change genes on the fly?
I don't even know if this is physically possible.
I know they can edit embryos and they can do things.
Like these Chinese doctors supposedly got in trouble.
and it turned out to make the kids smarter.
And it was actually like what they were doing was like this kind of experimental thing to...
sara weinshenk
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, and like, I don't know.
We've talked about this and I still can't remember how they got to the...
How do you know babies are smarter?
jamie vernon
That's what I was thinking.
You have to wait a solid 15 years on that one.
joe rogan
How many years?
At least 15. Remember Michael Jackson?
He was 12. I'd be like, there's something going on there.
jamie vernon
I'll just get into a testable age.
I don't know.
joe rogan
What about Michio Kaku with his fucking particle collider in his garage?
He was in high school.
jamie vernon
How would you know that they weren't going to be smart anyway?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
That the CRISPR did it.
That's kind of what I was thinking.
kim congdon
In my hometown, there was a kid that got cancer, and they did something where they put dead HIV cells in her body, and then she got better.
joe rogan
Whoa.
kim congdon
And then I read one thing about it and I never heard anything again.
joe rogan
I know they're doing something like that with cancer.
They're doing something like that with, I think it's the herpes virus.
There's something with melanoma and the herpes virus where they're using...
I'm going to butcher this.
We have to read this.
I don't want to go any further.
kim congdon
Everyone's going to go try and get herpes now.
joe rogan
This is one of those things that a friend told me they did the therapy on him.
And he didn't go into details about it, but he said it saved his life.
So I said, really?
And so I promised him that I would look into it.
And so that's what I'm doing right now through Jamie.
kim congdon
That's also a funny way to get your friend not to make fun of your herpes.
joe rogan
Bro, I got it because I have cancer.
I was trying to cure my cancer.
I wasn't being a hoe.
unidentified
He was like, actually, you're being rude to cancer.
joe rogan
Isn't it crazy how many fucking diseases have killed people that came from having sex?
You really stop and think about it.
Syphilis killed everybody.
Everybody died of syphilis.
kim congdon
Yeah.
All the best things kill you.
joe rogan
They're getting holes in their face.
kim congdon
Yeah.
I want to be killed by sugar.
I want to eat sugar.
joe rogan
Didn't Al Capone?
He got a syphilis too.
kim congdon
Syphilis?
There's billboards I see for like super STDs now and they get more powerful.
There was a billboard recently.
It was an iceberg and then it had the tip underneath and it said super gonorrhea.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
kim congdon
Yeah.
It's out there.
joe rogan
Medication resistant gonorrhea.
kim congdon
Yeah.
It's getting stronger.
joe rogan
Who's to blame?
kim congdon
I'm not saying.
You can't get me.
joe rogan
Oncolytic?
Oncolytic virus treatment has become a new trend in the cancer field in which oncolytic herpes simplex virus type 1 is a therapy.
Okay, so yeah, they are actually using it as a therapy.
Melanoma.
Yeah, that's what this gentleman was telling me.
kim congdon
Wow.
My dad swears that shark fin oil cured my asthma.
joe rogan
Maybe dad just hates sharks and tries to come up with an excuse.
kim congdon
No, my dad's a fisherman and I had really bad asthma as a kid and this old Spanish woman told him to try shark fin oil and he did and I never was hospitalized again.
I never had to use an inhaler.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's pretty cool.
What do you think is in shark fin that does that?
kim congdon
I don't know, but I've looked up shark fin.
joe rogan
It's not coincidental?
kim congdon
No, there's something in shark fin oil that's good for your life.
jamie vernon
It pops up on Google as a holistic way to fix it, but I don't know what the...
kim congdon
My dad said, when I was a kid, I was in the hospital for like, University of Rochester, go below that.
joe rogan
University of Rochester, evidence points to fish oil to fight asthma.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Omega-3 fatty acids.
That makes sense.
kim congdon
He said a little old woman in Puerto Rico told him that.
unidentified
Wow.
kim congdon
And she was asking about me and I was in the hospital for it.
joe rogan
So it's probably, should you eat fish oil in asthma in times of India?
Omega-3 fatty acid or fish oil helps in reduction of excess immunoglobin antibodies that cause inflammation of the airwaves leading to an asthma attack.
kim congdon
That's why I want a shark tattoo.
joe rogan
So it's omega-3s.
So that's fish oil.
You could probably get that from all kinds of oil.
That's great.
kim congdon
He didn't have to kill a shark?
joe rogan
No.
But they probably realized that sharks were cunts.
They'll fucking bite you when you're surfing.
You know?
sara weinshenk
So why not?
For the oil.
joe rogan
People love sharks now.
It's like one of them weird things.
Jaws had everybody hating sharks.
Like, fucking kill them!
Kill them all!
But now everyone's like, don't kill the sharks.
What about the fins?
kim congdon
It's their ocean.
It's their home, not yours.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's nutty talk.
We own this bitch.
sara weinshenk
This is ours.
joe rogan
If you want to go back to living in a cave and fighting off bears...
kim congdon
I'm like, guess who can live in both?
Go right ahead.
It's my ocean and my land.
joe rogan
Yeah, shut your mouth.
unidentified
We'll go in there with submarines and nuke everything.
kim congdon
Did the shark fill the tank on wheels and come into fucking L.A.? No.
joe rogan
They didn't figure it out quick enough.
They should have been on the ball.
kim congdon
We win.
joe rogan
Yeah, sorry.
I see what you guys do to dolphins, you cunts.
Sharks are monsters.
They do that to everybody.
Everybody they can bite.
Seals, whales.
sara weinshenk
It would be cool if sharks could fly.
kim congdon
No, it would not.
It would be fucking terrifying.
sara weinshenk
Okay, bad idea, bad idea.
joe rogan
Sharknado, right?
sara weinshenk
That's what happens in that movie?
joe rogan
Sharks landed and bit people.
It was one of them preposterous movies.
kim congdon
I gotta tell you, though, if you grew up with liars, it's not that crazy.
If you grew up with people that lie to you all the time, it's not that crazy to believe that other people lie to you as well.
joe rogan
No one would want the world to be flat more than me.
I think it would be hilarious.
I think it would be hilarious if this whole thing was God playing a joke on us.
Like, yeah, oh, you figured out space, did you?
Oh, did you figure out space?
Congratulations!
unidentified
What, you sent a telescope up into my fake sky that I created to fool you?
kim congdon
He's like, I changed the scope in the sky!
joe rogan
You dummy.
I showed you what I wanted you to see.
That's why you're seeing UFOs.
That's technological Jesus.
Tech Jesus.
I'm hoping for tech Jesus to rescue us.
unidentified
His comes in with house music.
kim congdon
Not Jesus coming in with house music to pick us up.
joe rogan
Such a fucking silly time for human beings.
Such a silly time.
For no reason.
kim congdon
I feel like there are always spurts of a lot of UFO sightings at once.
My mom and my stepdad swear they had a UFO experience in Costa Rica where they were recording and they said that their camcorder shut off and they said all the sounds around them, they were walking to a waterfall, they said everything stopped.
The birds stopped, the music stopped, they said the water stopped.
It went dead silent and the camera stopped and they had the footage of the camera stopping and then everything came back on like five seconds later.
Nothing.
They saw nothing.
They said, my mom thought something was medically wrong with her.
She was like, I thought something was happening to my hearing.
And then I looked over and she was like, your stepdad was pale.
Because everything just went dead.
And then came back 10 seconds later.
And then they can hear the kids and the people and the tourists.
sara weinshenk
I would not like it if my life experience just got muted in real time.
And then came back.
joe rogan
You guys should watch this movie, Moment of Contact.
What is it?
It's a movie about a crash in Brazil.
kim congdon
I'm scared.
joe rogan
In 1996. Okay.
In Varginha, Brazil.
sara weinshenk
Okay.
joe rogan
And it's by the guy, James Fox, who made The Phenomenon, which is another amazing movie on UFOs.
But this movie that he made about Varginha, Brazil, the crash is like very heavily documented.
There's documentation of U.S. Air Force flying in and supposedly picking something up that they think was wreckage or something like that and flying out with it.
One of the soldiers apparently had picked up one of the organisms that was there and they carried it in their car and drove it.
To some hospital, to another hospital.
They have documentation of them taking this thing in.
They have the people that did the autopsy on the soldier who died of some insane infection that they had never seen ever before.
He died of some insane bacteria.
He's like a young guy.
He was dead very quickly.
kim congdon
He should have been wearing glasses.
Ahh!
Goggles.
unidentified
Goggles.
sara weinshenk
Not a goggle callback.
joe rogan
But if you're into UFOs, this is one of the best ones I've ever seen.
It's really interesting.
sara weinshenk
That sounds cool.
joe rogan
Because the whole town is convinced that this happened.
There's so many people that have witness experience that they say, like the whole town revolves around this, like there's a lore to it that revolves around this one time where this UFO crashed.
sara weinshenk
That's so crazy.
joe rogan
It's fucking wild because when you see these people and you see the people that like when it happened, like when they put a camera on and they brought this guy back to the crash site and the guy starts crying, he's like weeping, talking about where it was and like what it was like to see this thing.
sara weinshenk
We gotta watch this.
joe rogan
It's fucking crazy.
kim congdon
I get scared.
I feel like whenever we watch things about them, I feel like the plant thing you said, I feel like they know.
sara weinshenk
Like Zuck.
joe rogan
Oh, they know.
kim congdon
Like Zuck.
Yeah, I feel like they're Zuck.
unidentified
Like Elon and Zuck.
joe rogan
They're playing us from both sides.
kim congdon
They're exactly like Zuck.
joe rogan
They're the Biden of Trump of the fucking super aliens.
kim congdon
I used to feel like that when I watched alien movies.
I feel like they can feel us watching them.
They like it.
joe rogan
Well, if I was an alien, that's how I would do it.
I would infiltrate and I would take little people and I'd put alien thoughts into their little minds.
sara weinshenk
I would like some alien thoughts.
joe rogan
Maybe that's what thoughts are.
Maybe thoughts are like a life form.
We just don't appreciate them.
sara weinshenk
Whoa!
I've never thought of that.
joe rogan
Think of ideas, right?
Everything that we have in front of us, everything, the table, the mugs, the microscope, the microphones rather, the phones that you text each other on, all those came from ideas.
Somebody had an idea and then physical reality came out of that idea and they made a thing.
And then more ideas come and And then you make more things, and you say, look at all the things that I've done.
Look at all the things that I've done.
kim congdon
Well, it kind of feels like that with a joke, too.
When people are like, where does a joke come from?
And I'm like, I've explained it once or twice, and I'm like, it literally like...
I don't know.
sara weinshenk
Mine's always like at 2 in the morning, and I'm like, fuck, it's not funny.
Go back to bed, bitch.
Then I'm like, it's funny!
I gotta get up and write that shit down!
joe rogan
If you don't get up and write that shit down, you'll never sleep.
You'll look like I'm such a loser.
sara weinshenk
I know.
joe rogan
I was in the middle of saying something the other day and someone interrupted me and it slipped through my fingers.
It's been driving me crazy for like two days.
sara weinshenk
That's the worst!
joe rogan
I knew there was something there.
There's like this spark.
I was like, oh, that's how to...
And then someone else was asking me questions.
kim congdon
You solved the answer to why we were here for a second.
joe rogan
It was just a joke.
kim congdon
And then some dude's like, so how are you liking Austin?
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Where's the best pizza?
kim congdon
Is Terryplex really it?
joe rogan
Some dude came up the other day.
He goes, what do you do for discipline?
How do you get disciplined?
You don't get it from this conversation.
kim congdon
My favorite thing to do is when people are like, how do you think your jokes?
I go like this.
It just stops the whole conversation.
You point to this guy and they don't ask you another question.
joe rogan
I get them from Jesus.
Imagine if it was real.
kim congdon
It might be cancer.
unidentified
Well, if you do have a muse...
joe rogan
If you do think that your creativity comes from a muse, it will work if you just treat it like it's a muse.
That's the whole premise of the Steven Pressfield book, The War of Art.
sara weinshenk
I haven't read that one.
I just started reading the Rick Rubin one.
joe rogan
Yeah, we got a stack of them.
It's a very small book.
It's a real easy read.
But it's basically like if you just treat it like, you know, there was always the concept of the muse.
Whoops.
Concept of the muse that some deity comes to you and bestows upon you these ideas.
Pressfield's argument is that if you just treat it like it is a muse, if you really pay respects to it and show up every day and try to communicate with the muse, it will show up.
It's real.
kim congdon
It's actually real, yeah.
joe rogan
It is real.
sara weinshenk
It is real.
joe rogan
But it's...
What is it?
Is it your...
Is it like...
Is that a...
Like the idea of a muse, is that just a scaffolding that we can put up to support our...
The reality that we know is that hard work and concentration and just immersing yourself in this task will eventually yield results, just like everything else.
Just getting in shape by, like, you want to learn how to swim, you have to swim.
If you want ideas, you got to sit down and work on ideas.
kim congdon
Yeah, but whatever it is, it already exists, and then when you put yourself in that space, you just open up yourself to receive it.
sara weinshenk
You get in flow when you're in flow state.
joe rogan
But that's the thing.
It's like, what is it?
When you come up with a good joke, when you have this idea, when you're in your car and you're like, It's in the car a lot.
It is a lot.
Especially if you have the radio off.
kim congdon
Yes!
Driving in silence is huge for me.
sara weinshenk
In the car, in the shower, in bed.
Those are my three spots.
joe rogan
This car that I used to love to drive at the Comedy Store.
This 1993 Porsche RS America.
It has no power steering.
It has no radio.
kim congdon
No brakes.
joe rogan
It has awesome brakes.
There's no radio.
It's not even that fast, but it's just this raw mechanical thing.
And when I drive it, there's no music.
I just think.
And you're heightened.
Your senses are heightened because of the sounds.
And you're holding on to the steering wheel because there's no power steering.
kim congdon
No, fuck.
sara weinshenk
It's almost like meditative.
unidentified
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
Because you're tapping into that flow-like state and you're present.
It's exciting.
Yes.
joe rogan
It's exciting.
unidentified
Driving is meditative.
kim congdon
You ever get somewhere and you're like, I don't even...
joe rogan
Right.
sara weinshenk
I don't know who was behind the wheel.
joe rogan
Especially if you're in a good place.
kim congdon
Someone drove, not me.
joe rogan
Let's not go fast.
Let's just chill.
unidentified
Let's just get there.
kim congdon
When you're chill driving.
joe rogan
Normal speed.
Normal speed.
Accept the time.
Don't get in the left lane.
Don't get in the left lane, you fucking psycho.
Don't you do it.
Why are you going 90?
Why are you going 90, Kim?
kim congdon
I'm getting excited.
joe rogan
Where are you girls living now?
kim congdon
I live in Hollywood.
joe rogan
Still living in Hollywood?
Do you drive a lot?
sara weinshenk
Yeah, I live in a canyon.
joe rogan
You live in a canyon?
kim congdon
Yes.
joe rogan
You need something like a Mustang.
You need a modern Mustang.
You need something fast.
Kim Congdon.
sara weinshenk
No, she doesn't.
joe rogan
I think you do.
sara weinshenk
This bitch does not need a need for speed.
kim congdon
I want a truck.
unidentified
Ooh.
sara weinshenk
Not me.
I'll take a Fiat.
joe rogan
A Fiat?
kim congdon
I don't want a small truck.
But I want it to be small.
sara weinshenk
A mini Cooper.
kim congdon
Small and red.
joe rogan
Like a Tacoma.
kim congdon
Uh, yeah.
unidentified
Tacoma.
joe rogan
You want like a pickup truck truck?
kim congdon
Yeah, and I want like a cute truck.
joe rogan
A cute truck?
kim congdon
Yeah, a vintage truck.
joe rogan
A vintage truck.
unidentified
A small red Chevy.
kim congdon
Like an old Bronco.
Like an old red Chevy.
joe rogan
Oh, like an old Blazer.
sara weinshenk
Like a 56 Chevy?
kim congdon
Something I could wear this jumpsuit in.
joe rogan
Those are unwieldly.
kim congdon
They what?
joe rogan
They're unwieldly.
kim congdon
What does that mean?
joe rogan
They're very difficult to drive.
kim congdon
Yeah, they're just in movies for when you're teaching a girl to drive on some back road.
sara weinshenk
In a country song.
joe rogan
The reality is if you get an old car like that, it's going to have old car steering.
They're not fun to drive.
It's very sloppy.
sara weinshenk
You want power steering, bitch.
unidentified
Look how cute that is.
joe rogan
It'll have power steering.
It's like power steering from whatever year that is.
unidentified
I like that one.
kim congdon
The one to the right in the middle.
That one.
What year is that?
I want something like that.
joe rogan
It says old.
It doesn't even know what year it is.
What year do you think that is?
Let's Google 1964. Okay, 64. Let's go 1964 Chevy truck.
See what they look like.
kim congdon
That might be it.
sara weinshenk
You might be on to something.
joe rogan
Those are fresh.
Look at that thing.
kim congdon
Like how clean is that to pull up in that?
joe rogan
Oh, look at that one in the upper left hand corner.
unidentified
Joe, don't get it.
kim congdon
It'll hurt me.
I can hear him.
sara weinshenk
Joe, get Jim Morrison's.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I want.
kim congdon
Oh, look at that thing.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
sara weinshenk
That is so cute.
kim congdon
It is so cute, right?
sara weinshenk
Like, I want to go to the farmer's market in that, bitch.
I know!
kim congdon
I want to buy flowers and have it sitting in the passenger seat.
joe rogan
You'd be that wacky lady who writes jokes.
sara weinshenk
Sunflowers with sunflowers in her Chevy.
kim congdon
I think Whitney just got a really beautiful truck like that, too.
A brown one.
joe rogan
She probably doesn't even remember.
kim congdon
She left it at Avril Lavigne's.
joe rogan
She left it wherever Jim Morrison's Mustang is.
kim congdon
She has the Mustang, by the way.
unidentified
She probably does.
kim congdon
If you're looking for Jim Morrison's Mustang.
joe rogan
I'm surprised for you.
unidentified
She's gonna find it.
kim congdon
She put it in Whitney's doghouse.
It's her dog bed.
He sleeps in it at night.
joe rogan
We'll just stick her on this project.
She'll figure it out.
kim congdon
She'll find it.
unidentified
She'll have the truck.
joe rogan
She'll know where it is.
sara weinshenk
She'll know where it is.
joe rogan
We need her to find Morrison's Mustang.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
Just make her do a documentary on it.
She'll find it.
She'll be pounded on doors.
She'll find that fucking mustache.
unidentified
Who's got that fucking mustache?
kim congdon
Who's got the mustache?
joe rogan
She'll like trace it out.
There's only 2,000 of them.
It wasn't that hard.
unidentified
That's exactly what she'd say.
joe rogan
She would just go into this fucking graph.
unidentified
She would literally say it wasn't that hard.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's dead, so we checked his property.
I knew that last night in the middle of the night.
She's got fucking night vision on and shit.
kim congdon
Where do you find a Mustang?
A garage, you idiot.
She's like talking to you like you couldn't find it.
sara weinshenk
And while I was there, on my way there, I did rescue a wolf.
joe rogan
I have a new piglet.
I hope it gets long with my pit bulls.
Yeah, she's crazy.
But that, like, that barn find thing's a real thing.
They find people, like, leave these cars in their barns that are vintage, beautiful cars that are worth, like, shit tons of money.
sara weinshenk
Let's go barn hunting.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a thing called barn finds.
unidentified
Barn diving?
joe rogan
Barn diving.
sara weinshenk
Dumpster diving?
joe rogan
You don't have to dive.
No, they find someone's dad dies, and then they go back to the farm where the dad lives in Ohio, and dad had three or four crazy old mopars sitting in his backyard.
kim congdon
But how come these people don't know the value of it?
joe rogan
Because they're farmers.
They're out there just fucking trying to eke out a living.
They don't have time to be on the internet, pay attention to all this stupid shit.
kim congdon
But they're on barn finds.
That seems deep enough to me.
joe rogan
They don't even think about it.
They just leave them in there.
kim congdon
Wow.
sara weinshenk
They're like, yeah, that's granddad's junker.
joe rogan
Especially if they have a farm that's successful.
kim congdon
Yeah, they don't care.
joe rogan
They don't give a fuck about these things.
They're just sitting out there.
They're kind of cool to look at.
kim congdon
Catch me finding my truck.
joe rogan
You know, imagine if you grew up on that farm, you can go check out those old cars.
That's kind of fresh.
Ooh, look at that Barracuda.
Look at that 1970 Barracuda.
Click on that.
unidentified
Ooh.
sara weinshenk
Wow.
joe rogan
You can fix that one.
That one you can fix.
kim congdon
Look at the patina on that bitch.
I want a cool car like that.
joe rogan
You know what?
A lot of people like to do with cars like that.
See that car right there?
That's beautiful.
Just fix it up, but don't change the paint.
Leave that.
sara weinshenk
Oh, that's kind of cool.
joe rogan
Leave that old school shit on it.
Leave that old school shit.
kim congdon
The stank, yeah.
joe rogan
Put a modern Hemi in that motherfucker.
unidentified
That one?
joe rogan
Look at that.
That's a 1971. 1971 convertible.
$700,000 at auction.
Holy shit.
They drive terrible.
They're terrible.
The brakes are terrible, everything.
The steering's terrible.
But you can fix them.
They do stuff to them now.
You can make it so you can drive it.
kim congdon
I know absolutely nothing about cars, but I always remember my friend Kelsey Hoshard in third grade would say, my dad drives an 82-old Cutlass with a roll cage.
sara weinshenk
What does that mean?
kim congdon
She would say that all the time, and I was like, that sounds fucking dope.
joe rogan
That sounds like a psycho.
What is that?
Pull it up, Jamie.
What year is it?
82 Cutlass?
kim congdon
82 Olds Cutlass with a roll cage.
joe rogan
So he had a roll cage and an 82. Oh, I know.
kim congdon
But her dad was cool.
joe rogan
That's a Grand National.
kim congdon
Oh, that's kind of sick.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
sara weinshenk
What's a roll cage?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
They raced them?
Look at that thing.
That's a NASCAR one though, right?
That's like a fake car.
sara weinshenk
Is it that cage?
kim congdon
That's true.
joe rogan
Wow.
Look at that thing.
sara weinshenk
That's wild.
joe rogan
Dude, you're driving to school in NASCARs.
kim congdon
He would build recliners that were chairs and drive them through the town.
unidentified
He was crazy.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
sara weinshenk
That's wild.
joe rogan
You know, that's how they found Bob Lazar.
Supposedly, that's the Bob Lazar story.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He put a jet engine on a Honda when he was young.
And they were like, what is this motherfucker doing?
unidentified
Wow.
sara weinshenk
A jet engine on a Honda?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, when they were, yeah, he was working, supposedly working at Los Alamos Labs.
It's disputed, but he's on the employee roster.
But he knows his way around the building.
It seems like he worked there.
That's his story.
He says he worked there.
A lot of people from there say he didn't.
But the bottom line was this guy, at the time, built a fucking car with a rocket engine in the back.
He had a jet engine in the back of his car.
He was like a propulsions expert.
He just was super genius.
And this is the guy that supposedly they recruited and took to the middle of the Nevada desert and tried to have him back engineer UFOs.
kim congdon
Jet tube.
joe rogan
It's a crazy compelling story.
Because if the guy's telling the truth that the government has been in possession of these things.
kim congdon
He did your show, right?
He did the show.
unidentified
He did?
joe rogan
It's an amazing conversation.
kim congdon
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
Wow.
kim congdon
My dad sent me the clips from it.
joe rogan
Because I'm like, I'm so fucking, I'm such a sucker that I'm like, come on, I want it to be real so bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So part of me is like, why do you want it to be real so bad?
Like, why is it so like, and then part of me is like, where's the bullshit?
Come on, show me some bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
kim congdon
He doesn't waver.
joe rogan
He might be the best bullshitter that's ever bullshitted, you know, but he seems like he's being sincere.
So maybe he's crazy and he has this false memory that's impossible to shake.
sara weinshenk
Do you ever listen to Art Bell?
jamie vernon
That's not his car, is it?
joe rogan
CRX? Lazar?
jamie vernon
Being sold as a Bob Lazar tribute mini thing.
joe rogan
Oh, is that really?
jamie vernon
Maybe not.
joe rogan
Maybe, I don't know if he's a part, that could be like people being silly.
jamie vernon
Yeah, okay, could be.
sara weinshenk
Do you ever listen to Art Bell?
joe rogan
All the time.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
One of the fucking greatest joys of my life, I got to be a guest on the Art Bell show.
sara weinshenk
You got to be on the Art Bell show?
kim congdon
Who's Art Bell?
unidentified
Art Bell was the fucking man.
joe rogan
He was the man.
sara weinshenk
Like, radio show.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
If you get up at the show late at night, we'd leave the comedy store.
And I'd be driving home and I'd listen to Art Bell.
Coast to coast with Art Bell.
sara weinshenk
Coast to coast.
joe rogan
And a guy would call up, Art, I'm a werewolf.
unidentified
He'd be like, tell me more.
No.
kim congdon
That's so fun.
joe rogan
It was the best.
He had a time traveler line where you could only call in if you were a time traveler.
kim congdon
He's so cool looking.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The Kingdom of Nigh.
sara weinshenk
I mean, yeah.
kim congdon
Oh wait, I feel like I've heard.
Okay.
sara weinshenk
And he had Terrence McKenna on.
I listened to that episode.
joe rogan
Oh, he had amazing episodes of Terrence McKenna.
sara weinshenk
Yes.
joe rogan
He was incredible, man.
kim congdon
How long did he go for?
joe rogan
Oh, forever.
He died recently.
kim congdon
Oh, so sad.
unidentified
It's all on.
sara weinshenk
You can get it all.
unidentified
Art Bell.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can find it online.
sara weinshenk
You went on his show?
joe rogan
2018 he died?
Yeah, I went on his show.
sara weinshenk
That's cool.
joe rogan
It was dope as fuck.
Uh, so yeah, accidental drug overdose.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
kim congdon
He was partying.
joe rogan
Maybe he was just fancy.
kim congdon
He was having a good time.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe he bought a fucking, maybe he had a bad back and someone gave him a pill like Tom Petty.
unidentified
Oof.
sara weinshenk
That's sad.
Yeah, these guys- I wish Tom Petty was still here.
I would have loved to see Tom Petty live.
Did you ever get to see Tom Petty?
joe rogan
No, never got to see him live.
sara weinshenk
That would have been an experience.
joe rogan
So many talented people died from that shit.
kim congdon
From fentanyl?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Prince.
Who was it recently that died from it?
Coolio.
sara weinshenk
Coolio?
I forgot about that.
kim congdon
I just remembered Coolio died again.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
kim congdon
It's traumatic to go through twice.
joe rogan
Coolio was on Fear Factor.
kim congdon
Really?
joe rogan
He won.
He won high as Jesus on the space shuttle.
He was so high.
He was so high.
I went to his trailer.
It was like a running joke on set.
He would open his trailer.
It was like a Cheech and Chong movie.
He was just getting blazed all day long.
Just getting blazed and running in circles around everybody.
In the end, the final thing, I remember asking him...
kim congdon
They were like, no more weed.
unidentified
They're too good.
joe rogan
Like, why do you think you're going to win?
And he was like, because I've done this before.
I've lived this life.
I've lived in many universes.
sara weinshenk
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
And it sounded so good.
I was like, I love what you're saying.
kim congdon
Wait, I kind of actually specifically remember this episode.
unidentified
I don't remember what they left in there.
kim congdon
Hold on.
joe rogan
I don't remember, but it was before that that he said...
kim congdon
Was this the flying the cars through the air?
joe rogan
I don't remember what they did, but I do know that three of these people are dead now.
Chyna, she's dead now.
sara weinshenk
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Kelly Preston, she's dead now.
sara weinshenk
I forgot about Chyna.
joe rogan
And Coolio's dead now.
unidentified
God.
sara weinshenk
Good news, David Hasselhoff's still with us.
kim congdon
Thank god.
sara weinshenk
When I was a kid, David Hasselhoff's kids went to the same camp as me and my sister, and he used to drop off his kids, and it was like a big deal because Baywatch was on, and he would show up in like a muscle tank.
And my sister went over to their house for a play date.
It was a whole thing.
kim congdon
All the moms were hot for...
sara weinshenk
Yeah, I was jealous.
I was like, you went to David Hasselhoff's house?
That's so cool.
joe rogan
He was like a gigantic music star in Germany?
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Yeah, Germany.
sara weinshenk
Yes!
joe rogan
Yeah, like fucking huge.
Something about him in Germany.
They're like, we get it.
unidentified
We get this.
joe rogan
You know?
It's like Jerry Lewis.
Jerry Lewis was huge in France.
kim congdon
I don't know why, but that makes sense.
joe rogan
Sometimes it just pops like that.
kim congdon
That makes sense for him.
sara weinshenk
That would be fun to be big in another country.
kim congdon
Specifically in Germany.
sara weinshenk
I'm huge in profit.
joe rogan
Look at like Arge Barker.
Arge Barker's gigantic in Australia.
kim congdon
I don't know who that is.
joe rogan
He's from America.
American comic.
Funny guy.
This is David Hasselhoff in Germany.
Slaying!
unidentified
Wow!
Unsch Spectacular!
joe rogan
Love this!
unidentified
I love this.
joe rogan
This is my jam.
Look at them.
The Germans are all in.
The Germans are on.
Make us clap in tune.
Make us clap in tune.
They like that.
They're like being told what to do.
kim congdon
Wow.
Wow.
These are happy Germans?
joe rogan
Look at them all clapping.
They're all clapping together.
kim congdon
There they go.
joe rogan
They're thinking about engineering the best BMW right now.
unidentified
That's what they're all doing.
They're busy.
kim congdon
They're busy.
joe rogan
Isn't it amazing?
Think about all the crazy shit that's come out of Germany.
sara weinshenk
There's so much crazy shit.
joe rogan
Some of the best automobiles that have ever been designed.
They push the limits of everything.
unidentified
The 82 Olds Cutlass?
sara weinshenk
BMWs!
joe rogan
BMW, Mercedes, the cars that they were building, Porsche, Germany was building the wildest cars.
It's just bizarre that this one area had so many fucking top flight engineers.
kim congdon
They have a movie about it already, don't they?
joe rogan
Well, it's Ford versus Ferrari.
kim congdon
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
That's not about that, though.
I don't think there's a movie about it, because it's all connected to the Nazis.
sara weinshenk
I'm a German.
unidentified
Oh, that's the issue.
joe rogan
They're dumping a lot of money into R&D to make the superior products.
sara weinshenk
My grandpa was a Jew in Germany, and his whole family got killed in the Holocaust.
And he got put on a train and saved by Quakers.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
sara weinshenk
And then he got adopted by the Weinshank family.
unidentified
Whoa!
sara weinshenk
Yeah, so my grandpa was a Holocaust survivor.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
Ari's dad's a Holocaust survivor.
sara weinshenk
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
I had no idea.
joe rogan
Yeah, Ari's dad is an old gentleman.
sara weinshenk
That's crazy!
joe rogan
Yeah.
kim congdon
Ari's like 70 then.
unidentified
Ari's like 70. How old is Ari?
kim congdon
Is what I'm wondering.
Hold on.
joe rogan
Start doing some math.
unidentified
Some guys don't want to tell you their age.
kim congdon
Ari's timeless.
joe rogan
It's a funny thing, age.
kim congdon
My favorite thing to do with Ari is put my phone down and watch him try to get into it.
unidentified
I literally set a self-timer in my head and I'll watch him.
kim congdon
His hand will slowly creep.
He can't help it.
His hand will just slowly creep out of his pocket.
I don't even think he knows.
It's like driving for us.
sara weinshenk
That's so funny.
joe rogan
He's always fucking around.
kim congdon
He's always fucking around.
joe rogan
He's a fun dude.
kim congdon
He is.
joe rogan
I don't think he's doing his podcast anymore.
sara weinshenk
Really?
unidentified
He should be.
joe rogan
He's so funny.
We do protect our parks together.
Where me and Shane and Norman and Ari all get together and get hammered and say a bunch of atrocious things.
It's a ridiculous show.
unidentified
So fun.
joe rogan
It's a ridiculous show.
So he still does that.
And he does other people's podcasts, but I think he's kind of done.
jamie vernon
He's still updating it.
I mean, unless he stopped recording.
joe rogan
Why did I hear he's done?
Why am I spreading misinformation?
jamie vernon
Today.
He put one out today with Dave Smith.
joe rogan
Who told me?
Someone told me.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
When you were saying that, though, I feel like I was remembering that same memory.
Maybe Ari was saying he was done with it, but I just Googled it, and he's putting them out once a week still.
joe rogan
All right.
We can talk him out of it still, then.
Because that's what he did.
kim congdon
I didn't know that that's where that was going.
It was a plot twist.
joe rogan
I meant it the other way.
kim congdon
I meant it the good way.
You talk them back in.
joe rogan
You talk them back in is what I meant.
unidentified
You girls are so mean.
You immediately took it the wrong way.
joe rogan
So Ari quit doing his podcast a long time ago when he went on that walkabout.
Do you guys know Ari went on a walkabout in Asia for like four months by himself?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This crazy motherfucker.
sara weinshenk
When he fell off the grid.
He got a flip phone.
kim congdon
He got the flip phone.
joe rogan
This bitch got a flip phone, would occasionally check in through some internet cafe.
unidentified
He'd send a bird to Joe's window.
He stole all of his information.
joe rogan
He had a birder account.
kim congdon
A crow would come drop off a fucking letter to Joe and have a tab of acid in it.
joe rogan
He's traveled around the countries.
Just like seeing Asia.
kim congdon
Ari's one of the most interesting people in the world.
joe rogan
He's a wild boy.
sara weinshenk
He really is.
joe rogan
He's a real wild boy.
Not that other fellow we were talking about.
kim congdon
I already forgot the other fellow.
sara weinshenk
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
kim congdon
Ari's a real wild boy.
joe rogan
Good kind.
kim congdon
Yeah, he is.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's him on the Great Wall of China holding up the Chinese flag.
sara weinshenk
He's so crazy.
joe rogan
A lot of comics talk about stopping Asian hate.
Put that back up.
But I'm the only one in the comedy world willing to pledge my allegiance to the Chinese.
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
The Chinese fascist regime.
I, along with LeBron James, Joe Biden, are leading the way in doing business with the people who are leading the world in violence against Asians, but it's not the right kind of Asian, so it's fine.
I love you, China.
You're the great world leaders of our time.
Hashtag stop Asian hate.
Oh my God.
sara weinshenk
Look at him just by himself.
joe rogan
That's one of the greatest poses ever, because he looks like shit.
You know, it's like the most unselfiest selfie pose.
sara weinshenk
He looks like he's seen some shit.
joe rogan
Well, he has been.
He's been eating street food for the last four months.
He came back and told us about gutter oil.
Did you know about gutter oil?
Maybe he told me about that before.
jamie vernon
Anyway, that's where I remember it.
joe rogan
Was it from that time, from the walkabout?
jamie vernon
He went over there to do shows, I think.
He did like three or four shows and came back and talked about it.
joe rogan
So he told us that there's a market for people that take sewage and process the oil out of sewage and resell it as cooking oil.
Because if you take raw sewage...
jamie vernon
Oh, hell to the no.
joe rogan
I'm going to start fucking yakking just watching this.
unidentified
That's how I feel.
sara weinshenk
If you start...
Wait, are we buying?
joe rogan
I'm just faking.
But it does make me gag.
But that's all sewage.
So they're boiling it and the oils come to the surface and somehow or another they separate the oils Are these the cooking oils?
kim congdon
Where are these going?
joe rogan
I don't know, but they're using it for food in places.
Like here, they're cooking food in it.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, I'm good on the gutter oil.
joe rogan
It seems like a lot of work.
But cooking oil is hard to get.
Here's a thought.
Where's cooking oil coming from?
What are you using?
There's avocado oil, there's a lot of oils that you use.
Those are expensive to extract from things.
You gotta go get them.
Or you gotta buy them, somebody does it in a factory, and then they sell it to you, and you got canola oil.
kim congdon
And now you have monkey slaves.
Yes, they say that they like enslave monkeys to go get coconuts in the trees, and it's their full-time jobs.
sara weinshenk
That sounds sad for the monkeys.
kim congdon
I know!
joe rogan
What's sadder?
That or all tigers being in zoos?
kim congdon
Not tigers versus monkeys.
sara weinshenk
All tigers being in zoos.
kim congdon
I think monkeys.
joe rogan
My grandmother had a monkey.
kim congdon
What?
sara weinshenk
Did it eat her face?
joe rogan
The monkey's name was Chi-Chi.
Chi-Chi used to bite people.
sara weinshenk
I bet Chi-Chi did.
joe rogan
Nobody could go near Chi-Chi.
kim congdon
And what did the monkey do?
joe rogan
Well, the monkey bit...
I think the monkey bit...
I'm pretty sure it was my cousin.
It's one of those weird ones.
I blocked it out, I think, because I was very young.
I think I was probably like five.
And the monkey was wild.
And she had a monkey, and the monkey would open pieces of gum, like undo the wrapping.
unidentified
I was like, this is wild.
In your face.
joe rogan
But the monkey did not like kids, and she did not like anybody coming over the house that was going to take attention from the monkey.
The monkey had a relationship with my grandmother.
kim congdon
I don't need a scorned monkey.
joe rogan
It was weird.
So after the monkey bit one of the relatives, they had to get rid of the monkey.
I don't know what they did.
sara weinshenk
I'm glad they got rid of it.
Because you know some crazy people, they keep the monkey after it attacks.
joe rogan
Yeah, my grandmother was pretty eccentric.
But I don't think she was that eccentric.
kim congdon
She had a monkey.
joe rogan
She did have a monkey.
kim congdon
Let's go back to baseline.
joe rogan
That's crazy!
My grandmother was wild.
kim congdon
When you put your monkey in overalls...
You know it's time.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's an issue.
sara weinshenk
Was he in like a Hawaiian shirt?
joe rogan
My grandmother did time.
Because she wouldn't rat out the mob.
She was running numbers.
So my grandmother worked for this...
kim congdon
Because the monkey was running the numbers on the calculator.
joe rogan
No, my grandmother was doing it.
sara weinshenk
That's crazy.
joe rogan
And then she's like, I don't know nothing.
They put her in jail.
So we were always like, where's grandma?
And they were like, oh, grandma's visiting Aunt Jeannie.
sara weinshenk
For five years?
joe rogan
Some aunt.
She'll be back eventually.
sara weinshenk
How much time?
joe rogan
Knitting fucking sweaters for the guards.
Legitimately.
sara weinshenk
How much time did she do?
joe rogan
I think she did like six months.
kim congdon
That's real.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She did some time.
kim congdon
She's not a rat.
joe rogan
But that's what they used to have back then.
That was the neighborhood lottery.
It was called the numbers.
My grandmother was always talking about the numbers.
kim congdon
Wait, I remember this.
joe rogan
She was always talking about missing the number.
kim congdon
In Puerto Rico, they're still doing that.
I just went.
They still do it.
joe rogan
I bet they do it in Miami.
I bet they do it in a lot of immigrant communities.
They trust the numbers.
They trust the people running the numbers more than they trust the state lottery.
kim congdon
It makes so much more sense.
joe rogan
Yeah, and people win.
It's a real thing.
Obviously, the mobs getting their cut, and the people who run it are getting their cut, but it does work.
kim congdon
I don't understand how it works, because they come up to you with a binder, and there's a bunch of things laminated, and they're like, pick one, and if we win, we'll find you.
sara weinshenk
It's like, where?
unidentified
I don't know.
kim congdon
Where?
We're at a bar.
It's 2 p.m.
Where will I see you again?
I just have this coupon.
I gave you $100.
joe rogan
Right.
sara weinshenk
If I meet someone with a binder and laminated pages, I'm walking away.
kim congdon
No, because they said my uncle used to win all the time.
joe rogan
You know where they get you?
sara weinshenk
Where?
joe rogan
At the airport.
You know why?
Because at the airport, you're already following instructions.
At the airport, you're used to listening to people.
You go into a mindset.
You go into a mindset of you have to be disciplined, stay in the line, can't talk loud, put all your stuff down.
sara weinshenk
I almost got trafficked at the airport.
I saw some guy was like, taxi, taxi.
I go, okay.
kim congdon
She got into the rogue guy yelling taxi.
She got into the gypsy taxi.
sara weinshenk
And then I get in there and I go, where's the meter?
And he's like, there's not a meter.
And I was like, yeah, because this is not a real cab.
Give me back my stuff.
And he's like, that's fine.
I'm not going to take you anywhere.
There's cameras.
Look.
And I was like, give me back my stuff.
joe rogan
Cameras?
Oh, you're in control of those cameras.
unidentified
You're murdering me, you fucking psycho?
kim congdon
Your cameras?
joe rogan
Oh, we're safe.
As long as you're filming this atrocity.
sara weinshenk
Thank God.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jesus fucking Christ.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
You get into this mindset, I think, at the airport.
It's a unique place where everybody obeys.
Everybody listens.
Everybody gets in line.
Everybody has to take their belt off and all the other shit.
Take your shoes off.
Everybody has to do it.
So because you get into this mindset of you wait in line for whatever group number they're calling, and you find your seat, you put your bag up, you check your bag.
kim congdon
And you've given them all your money.
The flights are expensive.
joe rogan
You're waiting for your bags to come.
Everybody has to keep it together.
It's very rare that people don't keep it together at the airport.
kim congdon
Well, that's also why it has to be why they make it so expensive, too, because then you have something to lose.
They're like, you have to be able to fly.
I paid all this money.
We have to get there because I can't buy another one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When you get all those people together, everybody kind of follows the rules.
It's one of the most follow-the-rules places in our society, is the airport.
That's true.
So when you leave there, and someone comes up to you with a binder, and this page, this nonsense story, and a bucket, open bucket with cash in it, you just want to like, what's going on?
kim congdon
Sarah, right before you got on the plane, what did you buy in Vegas after Skank Fest?
sara weinshenk
Don't bring it up.
Not to Joe.
unidentified
What did you buy?
sara weinshenk
A timeshare.
joe rogan
You bought a timeshare?
kim congdon
She called me up, she's like...
joe rogan
They got you.
unidentified
She's like, we got a free trip, but we gotta go.
I said, we, bitch.
sara weinshenk
I said, mommy bought a timeshare in Sedona, and she's taking...
kim congdon
She didn't say timeshare first.
sara weinshenk
I didn't know it was a timeshare.
joe rogan
Oh my god, I miss you, girl.
kim congdon
She calls me, Joe.
She calls me and she goes, Kim, you gotta get downstairs before you get on the flight.
There's a guy named Rick.
He's got a good deal for you, too.
It was after Skankfest!
It got us at our weak point.
It was after Skankfest.
sara weinshenk
I was exhausted.
kim congdon
I was concussed.
joe rogan
That's when they get you in timeshares.
sara weinshenk
They don't use the word timeshare.
They call it a luxury vacation.
And I go, that sounds nice.
kim congdon
But they also lied to her and they said they knew about the festival she was at and they were doing a thing for the people at the festival.
joe rogan
Oh, they lied to you.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you told them you were at Skankfest.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, they were like, what are you like?
kim congdon
Everybody in Vegas is at Skankfest.
joe rogan
This is the project I'm working on.
Do you know about this bitch podcast?
sara weinshenk
Hi, fake Bono.
unidentified
Let me tell you my story.
kim congdon
Sarah gets got.
Listen, it happens.
sara weinshenk
I'm a trusting, lovable girl.
kim congdon
She is.
She's very lovable.
unidentified
That's what it is.
joe rogan
That's probably better than being an untrusting person.
kim congdon
There's a guy with his leg cut off.
I'm like, get away from me, scammer.
Jesus Christ.
sara weinshenk
I'm like, la la la la la.
unidentified
La la la la.
sara weinshenk
Oh, what happened to your leg?
kim congdon
Remember at the beach, the old man?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
kim congdon
The old man at the beach.
We were at the beach, and this old man came up, and he's talking to us, and we're petting his dog.
And you can tell he's this old Malibu rich dude, and he's like, yeah, I just wish I could.
She loves to run.
sara weinshenk
No, the dog.
kim congdon
Yeah, you talk about the dog.
She loves to run.
I wish I could run her up on the beach, but my knee hasn't worked for years.
And Sarah's like, I'll run her.
He's like, oh, you would?
And then Sarah's suddenly in this thong running this dog up and down the beach and the dude's so into it.
sara weinshenk
He was a pervert.
I thought I was helping out a nice man who needed his dog.
kim congdon
Yeah, it was a thing he does to young women.
And I watched it go down and I couldn't stop laughing because the dog was out of control too.
unidentified
He was Beauregard.
joe rogan
This is the best story ever.
kim congdon
Sarah's running.
She's in a snakeskin bathing suit.
joe rogan
This guy's like, keep running.
Is he filming this?
kim congdon
No, he's so perverted.
joe rogan
Was he filming it?
sara weinshenk
With his eyes.
Yeah, with his memory.
joe rogan
You probably couldn't believe you did it.
sara weinshenk
He was like, my knees are bad.
I'm like, oh, that sucks.
I'll walk your dog.
kim congdon
Yeah, he wasn't filming it, but it was in a bank of sorts.
unidentified
Yeah.
kim congdon
I saw right through it when he was talking to us because I'm looking around at all these young men that could help him run the dog up and down the beach and I'm like he's not coming up to us because we look athletic and we're gonna run the dog.
sara weinshenk
Maybe I do look athletic.
I get offended.
kim congdon
Not that we look unathletic but it was just very clearly a trick.
But she ran Beauregard and then the dog started snapping.
joe rogan
And you watched that trick go down.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
When did you know it was a trick?
kim congdon
As soon as he started talking to us, the second he opened his mouth, I could see it in his horny ass eyes.
unidentified
Oh, his horny ass eyes.
kim congdon
Sarah has the heart of a nurse, so Sarah's like, his knees.
unidentified
His horny ass eyes.
kim congdon
I look over, Sarah's rubbing CBD on his kneecaps.
joe rogan
Dude, if you ever do become a rapper, his horny ass eyes has to be your number one hit.
sara weinshenk
It took me by surprise.
unidentified
With them horny ass eyes.
sara weinshenk
I thought it was a disguise.
unidentified
But he gave me horny ass eyes.
kim congdon
Yeah, Beauregard got your ass.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
And then after I go, yeah, that seemed weird.
kim congdon
She came back.
They were both...
Her and the dog were...
The dog didn't even want to run.
He was like...
The dog was like laying in the sand.
She was like dragging it.
I was like...
joe rogan
I was like, what the fuck is this?
kim congdon
I hate exercise.
He's like, this is my 14th run in Malibu today.
joe rogan
This fucking pervert changes underwear three times.
sara weinshenk
Another hot bitch running me.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if that's your thing?
Like, some guys play golf.
This guy pretends he's hobbling on the beach for his girls to run with his dog.
unidentified
Call me Jaden, but I've seen the old hobble before.
kim congdon
That is...
joe rogan
But imagine if, like, that's your thing.
That's what you get up to do, you know?
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're not getting up to play chess.
kim congdon
Can I tell you?
Can I tell you, Joe, as a woman, I mean, as a man, you would be surprised to see the tricks that have been trucked.
joe rogan
Oh, I wouldn't be surprised.
kim congdon
Men are disgusting.
sara weinshenk
Disgusting.
unidentified
Mustache disguises, all the tricks in the book for some pussy, dude.
kim congdon
It's crazy.
sara weinshenk
Crazy.
kim congdon
It is insane.
joe rogan
Well, if you really wanted to think about it, for a lot of men, women is...
They're not just other human beings, but they're other human beings that have this insane gift of immense pleasure.
They're so different than men.
kim congdon
I know.
joe rogan
And when you're a guy and women don't like you, it's baffling.
You're like, there's this thing that everybody wants, and if I could get that thing, I would have this insane pleasure.
Because like...
Remember the first time you were ever intimate with someone?
Like when you were young?
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you're like, this is so wild.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like the whole, it's wild.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a weird feeling.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like all of a sudden you become like hugely addicted.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
To this like wild, weird feeling.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now imagine if nobody wants to do that to you.
unidentified
Nobody.
sara weinshenk
Then you write on YouTube and you say, you dumb bitch, you're not really smoking that blunt!
joe rogan
Now, here's the question.
kim congdon
Yeah, I'd take it out on a school hallway.
unidentified
If robot fuck dolls can fix that.
sara weinshenk
Yes, we want that.
joe rogan
Is that what you want?
sara weinshenk
I would rather them f- Oh, wait.
Wait, what?
And then they're not hitting on us because they're fucking the bots?
joe rogan
Yeah, then they're done with you.
sara weinshenk
No, I don't like that either.
joe rogan
This lady who can speak five languages and she wears a miniskirt right now with no underwear on.
kim congdon
Yeah, go fuck her.
sara weinshenk
And she doesn't nag him.
Go fuck her.
joe rogan
She wants him to do it.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
She wants him to do it.
sara weinshenk
She's not like, take out the trash!
joe rogan
Yeah, she's not even human.
kim congdon
But then there's something that they'll always know that they couldn't...
There's still that thing.
There's still that disconnect.
joe rogan
For now, but ten years from now, when she looks exactly the same, and everybody else is ten years older, and then ten years from there, and then ten years from there, and she's exactly the same.
And this old dude's getting fucking IV infusions and baby blood.
kim congdon
And Matthew McConaughey's voice.
He's like, that's what I love about my sex robots.
I keep getting older.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kim congdon
It's like, yeah, they do stay young.
sara weinshenk
Well, would you have a sex robot?
joe rogan
Sorry.
kim congdon
Uh, no.
joe rogan
You know what I think the real problem is?
It's not a sex robot.
The real problem is some sort of brain interface with a computer that allows you to have experiences that aren't real.
sara weinshenk
Like the movie Her?
joe rogan
Like sexual experiences.
I mean, any kind of experience.
Fantasy experiences.
Be a fucking Viking.
They're going to be able to give you a fake world in your brain.
You're going to be able to see it.
kim congdon
Well, yeah.
It does seem like VR is so crazy that more, and it's like, I remember the first time I did VR, I remember the first thought I had was that it was going to be a problem.
Because I was like, this is cooler than the room I'm in.
unidentified
Right.
kim congdon
Like, I'd rather spend the day in this room.
It's weird because it's not there yet.
And it could also be a room.
You know what I mean?
You could be in a room, but just in a better room.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
kim congdon
So it feels like the walls feel the same, and everything looks the same.
Oh yes, this shit is crazy.
The grieving mother who got to see her daughter again.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
jamie vernon
And it talks.
sara weinshenk
No, no, no, I'm not.
joe rogan
Whoa, okay, okay, that's so crazy.
sara weinshenk
That just sent a chill at my spine.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
That's the beginning of the end, folks, when you can't tell who's real and who's a computer-generated person that's saying amazing things to you.
Okay.
This is bumming me out, Jamie.
kim congdon
Yeah, that's sad.
unidentified
Sad.
kim congdon
She got sad.
joe rogan
That's sad.
kim congdon
But, happy part is, dudes can get...
sara weinshenk
Can nut.
kim congdon
Can nut.
unidentified
Thank you, mama.
sara weinshenk
You're welcome, mommy.
joe rogan
I think these things that they're seeing is just like a little bit of haptic feedback in the gloves and then the visual of the VR. But I think it's eventually going to be inside your mind.
They're going to be able to hijack whatever it is that lets you see things and however your brain interprets things.
Just hijack that.
And fill it with other information.
Fill it with Avatar Land.
Fill it with, like, literal experiences that aren't real, but that are more vivid than the experiences that you have.
And then you're not going to know what's what anymore.
sara weinshenk
I believe that.
kim congdon
Who knows what's real right now, anyways.
joe rogan
That might be already happening.
kim congdon
Yeah.
Who knows what's real right now, according to CIA. It's all made up anyways.
joe rogan
That's what the CIA says?
kim congdon
Yeah, CIA.gov, the gateway process.
They said you can just make things up and it happens.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, they said manifestation's real, and you can astral project.
kim congdon
The hemisphere sink.
joe rogan
There's so much misinformation on this podcast, this could get us all canceled.
kim congdon
That's kind of our thing.
joe rogan
What are you saying the CIA does what?
kim congdon
I found it in a red thread like six years ago.
joe rogan
A red thread?
kim congdon
A red thread.
joe rogan
It's real, Jamie?
kim congdon
It's from the website.
jamie vernon
I didn't want to ruin this for her, but...
Just because it is on the website, but that just means that they were investigating it and they have a record of investigating it.
Doesn't mean that it is real or is able to be recreated.
sara weinshenk
But we read it.
kim congdon
So that means it's that.
unidentified
So that means it's real?
joe rogan
And what does it say?
Can I see it?
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah, I'll pull it.
I mean, we've talked about it before on here with other people.
I'm pretty sure of this.
joe rogan
I think so, too.
jamie vernon
It's like the people who sit in a room and can see stuff.
kim congdon
They said that the CIA has been having meetings in the astral realm since 1995. Yeah.
joe rogan
I interviewed one of these guys.
kim congdon
This shit.
The biofeedback.
Yes.
He tells you exactly how you can do it.
Like, he gives you a step-by-step.
He does the whole...
You know when you're in third grade and you do a science fair project and you have the hypothesis and he does the whole fucking thing.
He says what he thinks is gonna happen, then he fucking does it.
He tells you exactly what he used, the frequencies and the music he used.
He said you have to...
Meditate and listen to a specific frequency and once your brain connects the right and left It's called a hemisphere sync and that he describes exactly how think your thoughts become physical It was crazy.
sara weinshenk
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It was crazy It's so crazy What is this based on like where do you get this information?
kim congdon
I don't know.
I believed it because it was on the CIA website, and now Jimmy told me that they just investigated it.
So I guess my TikTok could be on there for all I know.
jamie vernon
It's just one of those claims that someone made it, so they're like, all right, we'll check out what he's saying, and here's the report is kind of like what made it onto the website.
joe rogan
Seems like it is tasked to provide an assessment of the Gateway experience in terms of its mechanics and ultimate practicality.
As I set out to fulfill that, tasking it...
Soon became clear that in order to access the validity and practicality of the process, I need to do enough supporting research and analysis to fully understand how and why the process works.
So what is it saying though?
kim congdon
He said that he fucking did the research and he took the fucking time.
I read this whole thing front to back.
It took me like four weeks.
I had to Google a lot of words.
joe rogan
What did you get out of it?
kim congdon
I got out of it that he specifically went to a bunch of scientists, talked to a bunch of people.
He spent a really, really long time taking this seriously and that fucking all this shit that they're saying is real.
unidentified
So that somehow or another you can...
joe rogan
Manifest things into reality with your mind.
sara weinshenk
With your mind and you can also travel the astral plane when you sync the left and right sides of your brain.
kim congdon
And he tells you how to link the left and right sides of your brain.
joe rogan
Does it have anything to do with your taint?
kim congdon
No.
sara weinshenk
I hope.
kim congdon
Your taint has to be a specific size.
You can't have a soft boy taint.
joe rogan
Left clip, top.
kim congdon
Yes.
But basically, it's really crazy.
It said that, yeah, exactly.
It makes holographic patterns, and that's how your thoughts become reality, through holograms.
Through physical light holograms and they become real things.
joe rogan
I would love to have someone who actually could understand this shit go through it.
kim congdon
I wish we were smarter.
joe rogan
Eric Weinstein is screaming at the...
sara weinshenk
Valley Girl Science?
unidentified
This is actually the show we pitched to In-N-Out.
sara weinshenk
Oh, Fake Bono?
kim congdon
Yes, us getting high and doing fake bad science.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, that's what I was telling Fake Bono about.
kim congdon
We're all coming full circle.
joe rogan
How much do you think...
It affects, what is it?
How to escape the confines of time and space according to the CIA. In the 1980s, a spy agency investigated the gateway experience technique to alter consciousness and ultimately escape space-time.
Here's everything you need to know.
So they looked into this.
kim congdon
They gave a woman, they also have people that could do telekinesis and stuff, and they gave a woman, they put in like a 10-digit code, and they put it in a locker room in another state, and the woman was able to leave her mind and go into the vault with the code they gave her physically, and then go in, and she could only, like most of the people that could do it, I think they said they had like 36 people that could do it, They could only bring back 8 out of 10 numbers.
It was always missing just a little bit.
joe rogan
Remote viewer in 1989, remote viewer Angela DeFloria Ford helps track down a former customs agent who has gone on the run.
She pinpoints his location as Lowell, Wyoming.
U.S. Customs apprehend him 100 miles west of a Wyoming town called Lowell.
kim congdon
See, it's always like a little off.
joe rogan
So it's a little off.
Lowell instead of Lowell.
See, she saw it in her head.
kim congdon
Yeah.
And can I tell you when I can I tell you something crazy is when I first read it on reddit that when I first read it on reddit like eight years ago I I tried to go go back and reference this page I read and the page wasn't in it anymore there was a page missing and it was the one about magic wands yeah the magic wand page it's gone we've been looking for it if that turns out to be true and that You can affect reality with your mind.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why are we doing such a shitty job?
kim congdon
Because it takes a lot of...
It's like exactly what you said about, like, why doesn't everybody just do mushrooms and be chill?
It's like, because it's hard to get to that place because it almost feels better.
I don't know.
It's like the same way...
sara weinshenk
Being less aware?
Lower frequency?
joe rogan
What percentage...
There's also a lot of luck involved.
There's a lot of, like, different factors in how you get somewhere in life.
It can't all be a manifestation of your thoughts.
Like, maybe that's just a factor.
Maybe instead of it being a primary factor to your success or failure or whatever in life, maybe it is a factor.
But the other factors that maybe because we want to concentrate on this mystical one that we're missing out, there's a bunch of other shit that has to go into play too.
Like you have to be born in a place where you don't get hit by a drone when you're in a wedding party.
kim congdon
Unless everybody's own life is like its own thing.
And everything is just a backstory to your own story.
joe rogan
That's what Bert Kreischer believes.
unidentified
That's...
kim congdon
Okay, well, that's...
joe rogan
No, Bert Kreischer believes you don't die.
kim congdon
Did I just find out I'm an alcoholic?
joe rogan
I don't think you die.
unidentified
Prove to me you die.
joe rogan
I'm like, okay, dude.
kim congdon
I... You know what?
joe rogan
I guess you could philosophically say...
That you don't really know.
And you do go to sleep and you do wake up.
What's that all about?
What's going on when you're gone?
kim congdon
Don't even get me on sleeping because the anxiety I get before I fall asleep at night, I'm like, how is no one questioning this?
We're all laying down and closing our eyes and then going into this place.
You know, I dream the same place every single night for the last 10 years.
I go to the same place every single night.
I go to the same beach every single fucking night.
sara weinshenk
Sometimes we go to the same place in our dreams.
kim congdon
And one time I found a fucking video and people were talking about that they were going to the place that I go, the same exact beach.
They said, oh, but sometimes I stay in this hotel that's haunted, one of these rooms that's haunted, and that's exactly where I go.
joe rogan
You are a horror movie.
You're a literal horror movie.
kim congdon
What do you mean?
There was thousands of people that were saying that.
joe rogan
But horror movies are like that, right?
It's like everyone gets this message.
Like, we got this message.
What do you want to do?
I just feel like we should...
sara weinshenk
I feel like we should run this guy's dog down the beach.
kim congdon
There are other people that are going to say they dream of going to the beach every night, I bet.
But I bet that's a big thing.
The beach is a huge thing.
I bet there's people that dream of skiing every night.
joe rogan
The beach is always a nice place to go, so if you're trying to have a nice dream, you probably dream of going to the beach.
kim congdon
That's normal.
It's always nice, yeah.
joe rogan
But is it the same place?
Well, a lot of people, that was their beach.
The beach where you...
Is it a place you know of?
kim congdon
No.
joe rogan
It's not?
You've never been there?
kim congdon
No.
joe rogan
Where is it?
kim congdon
I don't know.
joe rogan
What is interesting about it?
Are there sharks?
They want their oil back.
kim congdon
The water...
joe rogan
Fuck your asthma.
kim congdon
They're pissing my dad.
The water's always really clear.
And, yeah, there's always a hotel.
I live in the hotel.
It's always like I get the nicest hotel and then one of the rooms is haunted.
So it's like I can't really enjoy myself there fully.
sara weinshenk
I have a similar dream.
kim congdon
And a lot of people, yeah.
sara weinshenk
And sometimes I'm in a hotel and I'm like, I have to get ready for my flight.
There's always a flight.
kim congdon
The flight.
And then I get on the flight and I can never leave the water.
I get on a flight, the plane will break in half and I'll parachute slowly back onto the fucking water.
And I'll be right back on the beach.
joe rogan
I was on a plane while I had this dream.
I fell asleep and I dreamed that we were flying through a tunnel.
And then you couldn't move to the left or to the right.
The plane had to stay in the center.
And the pilot was good at doing it, so we were okay.
But then we were flying through a fucking tunnel.
sara weinshenk
That's scary.
joe rogan
Except my eyes were closed.
And I was dreaming while I was on a plane.
I was like, oh my god.
kim congdon
Do you know what trips me out?
Sometimes I have dreams that I like see like a truck coming to hit me or something and then when I wake I'll wake up from the sound of a honking in real life like when I wake up a truck is honking at the same time that my dream was having that thing happened.
How does that happen?
That happens to people right?
joe rogan
What do you think is happening when you think about someone they call you?
sara weinshenk
Oh, I think that we live in a vibrational world and so if you're thinking about someone that there's a chance you're putting that out and that they're subconsciously picking up on it.
kim congdon
I thought I was just Puerto Rican and crazy.
I heard you talking shit.
Hello?
unidentified
I feel it.
joe rogan
I feel it in the air.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, there's times when you think about someone and then they text you.
kim congdon
You can feel someone looking at you.
joe rogan
Yeah, they say that statistically, right?
Like, they've done tests on that, I think.
Was that Rupert Sheldrake?
Was that one of his?
Yeah.
It doesn't feel.
I don't think it's everybody and I don't think it's all the time.
It's not like you always know when people are watching you.
But it seems like it's more often than chance.
unidentified
I think that's how they looked at it.
joe rogan
Because also you're in an unnatural environment.
So if they make you stay in a room, you don't know this room, you know you're a part of an experiment, you're sitting down.
There's a lot of weird factors in there that will interrupt the normal ability and frequency to just feel the world.
But if you're in your living room and then someone walks in your living room and you're like...
You just feel that they're in the living room, even though you didn't hear anything.
There might be something to that.
kim congdon
Not to bring up my school ADD again, but I used to yawn in class and see how many people I could get to yawn after my yawn.
joe rogan
What is that about?
sara weinshenk
That's a mental illness.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
I want to be the yawn leader.
sara weinshenk
I'm the yawn leader.
kim congdon
It's kind of funny.
joe rogan
It's a fucking interesting project.
kim congdon
I used to yawn and see how many people I could get to tag on.
sara weinshenk
The yawn captain.
kim congdon
I would do anything to not pay attention in school.
joe rogan
But yawns are weird.
kim congdon
Yawns are fucking.
joe rogan
Why are they contagious?
kim congdon
And why, when you're about to start tripping, do you do that a lot?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, mushrooms.
It's always like...
kim congdon
I yawn.
You know what I think?
You know what I noticed too is when I laugh a lot with my friends, even if I'm not on drugs, I'll start like...
My lungs will get like mucus-y.
Like my body starts to...
joe rogan
You need some more shark oil.
kim congdon
That's what it is.
You need shark oil.
I think it's getting rid of the mucus.
sara weinshenk
Don't bring up the mucus, mom.
Mommy?
unidentified
Mommy, stop talking about your mucus to Joe.
sara weinshenk
You're embarrassing me.
kim congdon
I forgot we were on a podcast.
sara weinshenk
Leave the phlegm at home.
Honey.
kim congdon
Anyways, I flim.
joe rogan
In this wild dream, is there a way it always goes?
kim congdon
It's kind of just the same thing.
It's very Truman Show-esque where I've been trying to leave.
There's always like...
Even last night, I had a dream I was getting on a flight.
And it was like the whole time.
It's like when I'm about to get there, something happens.
The ticket doesn't work.
It's always like...
Uh-oh.
Look what happened.
Looks like you're stuck here again.
And it's not a bad place to be, but I keep wanting to be like, but I want to see what else there is.
And like trying to go somewhere.
sara weinshenk
I have a dream my teeth fall out like dominoes.
I touch one and then the other ones just crumble and they all just fall out.
kim congdon
I haven't had that.
unidentified
Whoa.
kim congdon
That's crazy.
sara weinshenk
I hate it.
It's a reoccurring dream.
And then also that I'm in...
joe rogan
That's a common one.
sara weinshenk
And then I'm in high school and I don't know my locker code.
joe rogan
Ooh.
sara weinshenk
And I'm like, is it 38, 12, 07?
Fuck, I don't know what class I'm going to.
kim congdon
You wake up as an adult.
You're like, why was I stressed?
joe rogan
Bitch, you're almost 40. I had multiple dreams after I got out of high school that I somehow or another failed and I had to go back.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, that's the worst dream.
kim congdon
That's not one of mine.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
And then I had to make a decision like, am I going to be a high school dropout or am I going to do another year of high school?
sara weinshenk
Oh, doing another year of high school.
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
I'm so free.
I'm almost free.
And then that was my dream.
sara weinshenk
I have that too.
kim congdon
I don't have that one.
sara weinshenk
School nightmares, still.
kim congdon
No way.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a weird one.
kim congdon
I did have a friend die and I had a night terror the night that my friend died.
At the same exact time.
And I never had a dream.
So my dreams are pretty good.
They're at the beach all the time.
So I had a one really bad dream that woke me up out of my sleep that someone had killed themselves in front of me.
And I woke up like instantly crying and the next morning I got a call the same hour that it happened.
That's pretty trippy.
But that could also be the same thing as someone looking at you.
That could be a coincidence, the night that I had that bad dream.
joe rogan
It could be.
It could be that you remember it because of the fact that your friend did that.
Because if you didn't have that, you might not even have remembered it.
kim congdon
No, this is how I know.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
How many times do you really accurately remember your dreams?
kim congdon
Well, this is how I know.
I was dating a guy and I woke up next to him and he was like, what's going on?
Because I never do that.
And I told him about my dream the moment it happened.
Oh, there you go.
unidentified
Documentation.
kim congdon
Yes, and that's how I knew.
Because the next day I was like, did I tell you about that dream?
And he was like, yeah, you told me exactly that that happened.
That's not how he died, but he died.
joe rogan
Well, they don't know what dreams are really.
I mean, they know when people are in REM sleep.
They know that you should get a certain percentage of REM sleep in order to be fully recovered and rested and relaxed.
But there's a lot of weird shit about the consciousness of dreaming.
kim congdon
It's trippy.
joe rogan
A lot of weird shit.
Because we know the body produces endogenous psychedelic chemicals.
And is it doing that?
Is that what that is?
Is that why they're so hard to remember?
Because it's like psychedelic trips.
sara weinshenk
Like DMT Rome.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's probably some kind of state that you go into when you're dreaming.
kim congdon
You know what's crazy about DMT is that it smells like morning breath.
It does.
Whenever I smell it, I'm like, it smells like morning.
It stinks.
sara weinshenk
You're talking about morning breath and mucus?
kim congdon
Yeah.
I'm doubling down, sweetie.
sara weinshenk
I thought you were being a soft girl.
joe rogan
You guys have two totally different strategies.
It's amazing.
Sarah, you're giving up your cards.
sara weinshenk
You're giving up too many cards.
joe rogan
You've got to let her go.
kim congdon
I'm telling you.
joe rogan
You can't pull her in because then people know you're scheming.
sara weinshenk
I'm not scheming.
unidentified
No, you're not.
joe rogan
But you're trying to scheme for her.
Pull it in, lady.
sara weinshenk
I like to...
kim congdon
There's something to that, Joe.
joe rogan
Yes.
kim congdon
That it's a dream realm and it smells like morning breath.
joe rogan
Well, it only smells like that if you burn it.
You know, there's other ways of getting it into your body.
They're doing this long, slow IV drip in England now.
sara weinshenk
Interesting.
joe rogan
And they're mapping these experiences.
This was weird.
They're doing a long...
Full-in DMT experiences where they're going to the same places over and over again, and they're encountering very specific beings over and over again.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, like the purple lady.
There's this one purple snake-like lady that a lot of people have encountered, and if you go online, there's lots of people that have documented this purple snake.
joe rogan
Maybe, but what these guys are doing, they're doing it for hours and hours at a time in the DMT state because it's doing it through an IV. So this is like a completely unusual experience.
kim congdon
When I did DMT, it told me that the aliens are where the penguins are.
joe rogan
Okay, the ice wall.
It's the world's flat.
We're going back to the world's flat.
kim congdon
Do I think the world's flat?
Is that what I'm finding out about myself on this podcast?
unidentified
It would be the greatest thing to find out ever.
sara weinshenk
But penguins do seem a little alien-like.
kim congdon
They do!
joe rogan
No, they don't at all.
They're like a bird that lives in a place where you have to be fat to stay alive because there's cold fucking water and leopard seals everywhere.
Do you ever see a leopard seal?
One of my favorite animals.
They don't even look like they're real.
Leopard seals look like an avatar animal.
All they do is just fuck up penguins.
They are the death of penguins.
They exist to eat penguins.
These motherfuckers.
kim congdon
Oh, they're cute.
joe rogan
They're so ferocious.
Look at that thing.
That's real.
sara weinshenk
I feel bad for the penguin.
kim congdon
That's so cute though.
joe rogan
That is a leopard seal.
They are ferocious monster predators.
sara weinshenk
Look at that poor little penguin.
joe rogan
Look at that image of that one on the ice there.
No, the one to the right of it, their face.
Yeah, right there.
I know, but look at the image from the video.
It's crazy.
That image is insane.
unidentified
The blood on its face of that thing.
And they just jack penguins.
kim congdon
I don't like it.
They're the bullies of penguins.
sara weinshenk
I can't stand it.
Penguin patrol.
joe rogan
They're some of the most interesting animals ever.
kim congdon
Well, they're aliens, I'm telling you.
joe rogan
I didn't even know they existed until a few years back.
kim congdon
Quote me, when you find out penguins are aliens, you're going to remember this moment.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
I think Squid.
joe rogan
I remember March of the Penguins.
That's when I found out about them.
What year was that?
Remember that?
That was like a big documentary.
unidentified
Yeah, it was a big deal.
joe rogan
Everybody went to see the Penguin movie.
sara weinshenk
It was really cute.
joe rogan
It was.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was amazing.
That and What the Bleep.
Everybody went to see What the Bleep and came back all spiritual.
Remember those days?
kim congdon
I don't remember any of this shit.
joe rogan
It's basically what the CIA was saying.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
That you manifest reality.
sara weinshenk
What the Bleep.
joe rogan
No one told me.
So maybe it's like a little bit of that and then also a lot of luck and also a lot of circumstance.
sara weinshenk
Discipline.
kim congdon
Good combo.
joe rogan
It's got to be a bunch of different things.
sara weinshenk
It's got to be, yeah.
joe rogan
It's a bunch of different things happening simultaneously.
sara weinshenk
You've got to be driven and showing up for your life.
joe rogan
Thinking that it's only...
kim congdon
Oh, she's back.
sara weinshenk
I'm going to motivate you.
kim congdon
She's back.
We need the music for her.
sara weinshenk
When you wake up in the morning, look in the mirror and say, I'm going to be the best me that I could be.
unidentified
She's the best her that she could be on the Puerto Rican one in the background.
Yes.
sara weinshenk
Shankisms.
joe rogan
Yes.
kim congdon
You should sell a daily calendar with Shankisms every day.
joe rogan
Might not be a bad idea.
sara weinshenk
Come to my seminar.
Come to my seminar.
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joe rogan
Listen, other comics have done it.
You guys should start life coaching.
sara weinshenk
No.
jamie vernon
Why don't you mention that?
That's what I think the Vice article found out about the gateway process.
kim congdon
What?
jamie vernon
The guy who was sort of like promoting it gave a convenient seven-day audio tape.
Shortcut to finding out how to do all this.
I'm trying to find a picture of the tapes.
They had the tapes on there.
kim congdon
Well...
joe rogan
Say that again?
He did a seven-day what?
jamie vernon
So it's like an audio thing, and you have to keep listening to this audio to unlock it, I suppose is what it was saying.
kim congdon
No.
jamie vernon
If you just listen to his tapes over and over again- It's a timeshare.
You can skip ahead.
unidentified
We have to go to Arizona, Joe, this whole thing.
What?
jamie vernon
He was selling these tapes that are, I guess, are a couple of different frequencies, and then they started pitching this thing called HemiSync.
And that is copywritten now, and there's websites selling all sorts of stuff about HemiSync.
joe rogan
We cannot achieve the state on our own.
The audio techniques developed by Bob Monroe and his institute, which comprise a series of tapes, claim to induce and sustain hemi-sync.
Here the document shifts to the usage of quotes and other reports describe the powers of hemi-sync.
Wayne employs the analogy of a lamp versus a laser.
Left to its own devices, the human mind expends energy like a lamp in a chaotic and incoherent way, achieving lots of diffusion but relatively little depth.
Under hemi-sync, though, the mind produces a disciplined stream of light.
kim congdon
This is the thing he wrote in the article, yeah.
joe rogan
So once the frequency and amplitude of the brain are rendered coherent, it can then synchronize with the rarefied energy levels of the universe.
With this connection intact, the brain begins to receive symbols and display astonishing flashes of holistic intuition.
sara weinshenk
Hell yeah.
I'm trying to go from lamp to laser.
joe rogan
Imagine how you just get out with a cassette player.
It's just a Walkman.
You have old school Walkman.
kim congdon
I thought this was the Beatles.
jamie vernon
The last page of the report was missing, so a lot of people think that the hidden key is on that, but then they're like, it's probably not.
kim congdon
I told you.
joe rogan
Well, listen, what if it's real?
That's the thing.
If they really did figure something like that out, and if you really do listen to all seven of those tapes, then it unlocks some fucking potential.
kim congdon
We've got to find that tape.
joe rogan
Here to now, never been seen.
Some crazy new thing.
kim congdon
I'm down to try hemi-syncing.
joe rogan
It turns out it's just from some crazy dude figuring it out.
Just like everything else.
sara weinshenk
That would be wild.
kim congdon
Also, I wouldn't disbelieve that some dude figured it out and also is selling tapes.
Both of those can exist.
joe rogan
Right, why not?
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, I think it's a perfect cover.
sara weinshenk
I'd be peddling tapes too.
kim congdon
Yeah, me too.
sara weinshenk
If I had the answers like that...
joe rogan
But they're kind of barely peddling tapes, if you really think about it.
It's not a lot of marketing put into this.
sara weinshenk
A low-key tape pedal.
kim congdon
They go, if you want it, come get it.
unidentified
Old school cassettes.
kim congdon
That's their logo.
unidentified
You want it?
sara weinshenk
Come get it.
joe rogan
Maybe that makes me think they're legit now.
What if it's real?
What if you go up there and they really are doing that?
And that's why nobody wants to leave.
What if they really do have some sort of process where through sound you can achieve this state of unveiling?
The universe exposes itself to you the way it really is.
sara weinshenk
That is tight and I would like to go to the astral plane.
I hate to be a 14 year old boy about it, but that's tight!
joe rogan
That's tight!
kim congdon
The TikTok kids are claiming that they're fucking in the astral plane.
That they sneak off in their heads and that's where they have sex.
joe rogan
Whoa.
kim congdon
Isn't that crazy?
sara weinshenk
Yeah, I'm trying to link up with a man on the astral plane.
Maybe Zuck.
kim congdon
Maybe that's where they are.
Yeah, you go and it's Zuck.
He already got that market.
We gotta find a different plane.
sara weinshenk
He's a black belt in the astral plane.
unidentified
Yeah.
Not Zuck being a black belt in his other realm.
Yeah.
kim congdon
What did you call it?
An Uma Plata?
What did you call it?
sara weinshenk
I don't know, Kim.
That was so long ago.
unidentified
You can't let it go.
I love it.
joe rogan
She gave you bad jujitsu nomenclature.
kim congdon
So cute.
sara weinshenk
Triangle.
kim congdon
The triangle's deadly.
You and Zuck?
sara weinshenk
Remember when you put that girl, you used the arm bar in the Beverly Hills against the Beverly Hills?
kim congdon
A girl tried to trap Sarah in a bathroom.
unidentified
What?
kim congdon
For no reason.
A drunk girl.
sara weinshenk
She said, don't fuck with me, I'm from Bel Air!
kim congdon
Out of nowhere.
She was dropping Bel Air gang signs.
sara weinshenk
And then Kim had to, she was like this drunk crazy girl, and Kim had to pull out a low-key jujitsu move to keep her back.
kim congdon
Nothing crazy, just trying to get Sarah out of the stall.
sara weinshenk
Just an arm bar.
Is that what they're called?
kim congdon
Yeah.
I had to get it on video, too, because I was like, this Bel Air bitch is going to have to sue me.
sara weinshenk
I was like...
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
sara weinshenk
We get into situations.
joe rogan
It gets rowdy out there in the streets.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, sometimes you walk someone's dog.
unidentified
The streets of Bel Air.
joe rogan
The streets of Bel Air are hard.
unidentified
Gang gang.
You gotta be a hard person to survive.
joe rogan
Are there gangs in Bel Air?
Probably everywhere now.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
That'd be a good move.
Make a lot of money.
You're a successful gang.
kim congdon
They're not living there, but...
sara weinshenk
I don't feel like there's many gangs in Bel Air.
kim congdon
She was in a gang in Bel Air.
This girl was in a sundress and she was like, don't fuck with me!
And she kept dropping the area code.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
kim congdon
Yeah.
She was not kidding around.
joe rogan
Battle for Bel Air turns fatal as residents resist gang takeover.
What?
kim congdon
What if he saw that girl in the dress?
joe rogan
That's 2021?
There's gang violence in Bel Air.
jamie vernon
Probably not Bel Air.
Los Angeles is where my next part was.
It's got to be more Bel Air.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it says Bel Air in Port-au-Prince.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus Christ.
kim congdon
Maybe that's where that blonde girl was from.
Bel Air, Jamaica.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why she's so cocky.
She's like, I got this.
That's hilarious.
kim congdon
Not a blonde in Jamaica.
joe rogan
Hey, would they run out of names?
Why is there two Bel Airs?
jamie vernon
There's a Bel Air in the Baltimore area also.
joe rogan
Fuck is that all about it?
sara weinshenk
There's Paris, Texas.
There's Hollywood, Florida.
kim congdon
Ridiculous.
sara weinshenk
I don't love it either.
joe rogan
I think it's ridiculous.
unidentified
I don't think you should be able to do that.
joe rogan
Let's get creative.
kim congdon
There's enough words.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, make something up.
Like, you know, Winnipeg.
I feel like that was made up on a whim.
kim congdon
It's just like...
joe rogan
Seems like there's plenty of names.
unidentified
Thank you, Sarah, because Joe internally told me to fuck off after that one.
kim congdon
I saw it in your eyes.
joe rogan
Did they run out of town names?
For real, that's so stupid.
Why is there another Paris?
Don't you know about the real Paris?
Why'd you call yourself Paris?
This isn't Paris.
sara weinshenk
No, this is...
kim congdon
I feel like you were accusing me directly.
I got nervous.
I was like, I never called myself Paris.
joe rogan
You fucking did it, Kim.
sara weinshenk
This is like the Black Friday Paris.
joe rogan
Did you guys ever see the Paris that they recreated in China that's virtually vacant?
No.
They've made these...
Now, I'm assuming this is real, because this was quite a few years ago.
This was like before CGI was at its level that it's at now, because now anything can...
I mean, it's so hard to know what you're looking at.
But they used to have this...
There was a web series where they explored these places.
I forget who did it, but they have these videos of these towns that are like recreations of other cities in other parts of the world.
sara weinshenk
That's so crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
China's strange city of Paris.
So they have an Eiffel Tower, the whole deal.
sara weinshenk
So it's like Vegas, but they just...
kim congdon
But nicer.
joe rogan
But they've recreated a lot of Paris.
It's really crazy.
It's very interesting.
I don't know, like, how accurate it is.
jamie vernon
Oh, there you go.
It says, like, it's a one-third replica of Diefel Tower, for instance.
It's, like, they expected 10,000 residents.
So it's not huge.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
Since there's only 10% of that, so there's, like, 1,000 people living there.
joe rogan
How weird.
sara weinshenk
So weird.
joe rogan
What a weird decision to, like, make.
It's kind of cool, though.
Like, let's make another Paris.
sara weinshenk
It is kind of cool.
joe rogan
There's something kind of cool about it.
Like, why not?
Fuck it.
jamie vernon
Just one hotel open for guests, for foreigners?
joe rogan
As long as you don't pretend we're the real Paris.
sara weinshenk
Everyone's in berets.
joe rogan
It was always us.
sara weinshenk
Walking with bad guests.
joe rogan
Imagine if the Parisians are like, hey, hey, hey.
You guys are culturally appropriating.
kim congdon
They call themselves the originals.
Paris actually stole this from us.
jamie vernon
You think maybe they were trying to do like a resort town?
Nomadasaurus.
joe rogan
Maybe, yeah.
jamie vernon
There's an Eiffel Tower in Ohio at Kings Island.
It's been there forever.
It's on the Brady Bunch back in the 70s.
joe rogan
It was on the Brady Bunch.
That's hilarious.
jamie vernon
Well, like, you know, they just made one.
It's huge.
Why make the Eiffel Tower there?
Just make something big.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How many Statues of Liberty are there?
We got ours.
Did anybody ever make their own?
Like the France gave it to us, right?
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
joe rogan
The French gave it to us.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then did anybody else say, I want one to make their own?
sara weinshenk
What's up, France?
kim congdon
You could just like shit on anything that's ever made and been like, I'm gonna make one too and show you how unspecial that is.
joe rogan
Oh, so you have a Paris?
I have a Paris too.
They built their own Paris.
jamie vernon
There is a second one in Paris.
unidentified
See?
There we go.
jamie vernon
They made two and there's several smaller ones.
But I think I've seen the one in Paris is like, it's smaller though.
Let me see if I can find a picture.
joe rogan
Yeah, show me.
Here's one thing they're not gonna make.
The fucking pyramids.
sara weinshenk
The pyramids.
kim congdon
It's like the classier kind of version.
It's like not so in your face.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not in the middle of the ocean either.
It looks much more accessible.
kim congdon
You don't have to get on a ferry.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
kim congdon
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Get in a boat to go visit a statue.
sara weinshenk
Walk those stairs.
unidentified
This is liberty.
May she reign forever.
kim congdon
Not George!
There's always a guy named George with you.
joe rogan
It's a statue from Paris.
That's hilarious.
sara weinshenk
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Like as if a statue is what's important.
kim congdon
You know what this means?
It's like absolutely nothing.
joe rogan
It means whatever you decide it means.
sara weinshenk
People get excited about statues.
joe rogan
It's kind of dope.
Whenever the shit goes down in a movie, if the Statue of Liberty is in the ocean, you know we're fucked.
That's actually so true.
kim congdon
It's floating by.
Just her eye.
joe rogan
If the Statue of Liberty is getting fucked up, we got a real problem.
kim congdon
You're right.
joe rogan
Yeah, we identify with that statue.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like if an eagle gets killed, we're like, hey, not a fucking eagle.
Not the symbol for freedom!
sara weinshenk
Eagles.
Eagles are amazing.
kim congdon
Yeah, you don't want to see a dead eagle.
It's a bad sign for the times if you see an eagle on the road.
sara weinshenk
Not a dead eagle.
joe rogan
I watched a video of a bear climbing up a tree to kill an eagle.
sara weinshenk
Whoa.
joe rogan
It was like a juvenile eagle that was in the nest.
The bear just climbed up the tree and just grabbed the eagle.
kim congdon
Bears look so robotic to me.
They look animatronic.
Interesting.
sara weinshenk
Tell me they look like they would be a good cuddle.
joe rogan
So he's climbing up the tree to get to the eagle's babies.
And the eagle sees him climbing up the tree.
There's nothing she can do about it.
They got a big ass bear.
kim congdon
The dad eagle just flew by and was like, well, you're taking care of it for me.
joe rogan
That bear's taking a risk, too.
That's a small branch.
The eagles are just freaking out.
unidentified
They can't do shit about it.
kim congdon
Oh, they're trying to save the babies?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
You can't do shit about it because you can't risk getting bitten by a fucking bear.
So he got up there.
Did you fast forward through it?
Right after that altercation, like right there, he gets up there and he bites the baby eagle and kills it.
unidentified
So he's killing the juveniles and he drags them down.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, not for me.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
He's eating eagles.
sara weinshenk
Scary.
joe rogan
Imagine a world where you kill an eagle and you eat it.
You kill an eagle with your face and you eat it.
kim congdon
With your face?
sara weinshenk
So visceral, Joe?
unidentified
Yeah, that's what they do.
joe rogan
They all kill animals with their face.
We can't kill jack shit with our face.
Our faces are fucking useless for killing things.
kim congdon
They really are.
joe rogan
They can kill everything with their face.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
And they eat eagles.
sara weinshenk
Death by face?
joe rogan
That wasn't the first time he did that.
unidentified
He's probably been eating eagles since fucking high school.
kim congdon
Yeah, we go eat eagles.
The way he was eating, that wasn't his first eagle.
joe rogan
No, he knew what the fuck was up there.
It wasn't like guessing games.
kim congdon
The thing is, what are those guys doing?
Just casually filming?
That bear seems hungry.
I see that video, I go, we gotta go.
He seems like that's not gonna fill him up.
The small little eagle?
joe rogan
It'll fill them up for a little while and they're scared of people.
That's a black bear.
Black bears are scared of people for the most part.
But not always.
They're very unpredictable.
But most of the time they don't want to have anything to do with people.
And the real problem is when you catch a mother near their cubs and you're unexpected.
They're better off knowing you're there for the most part.
Unless they're predatory.
And if they're predatory, if they're hungry, they'll try to eat you.
And that has happened to people before.
kim congdon
Getting mauled by a bear has to be one of the worst nature deaths.
Would you rather get eaten by a shark or mauled by a bear?
Eaten by a shark easily, right?
sara weinshenk
I'm going mauled.
kim congdon
I'm going shark.
joe rogan
Shark might just chop you in half and swim off and decide you taste like shit.
sara weinshenk
I feel like the shark might like the way I taste it.
joe rogan
The bear is going to tear your chest apart like an excited child opening up a Christmas present.
sara weinshenk
That was also a very visceral joke.
kim congdon
You just left this place.
joe rogan
They're going to open you up and eat your guts.
sara weinshenk
Alright, I'm going shark.
joe rogan
While you're still alive.
Because they don't kill you.
They don't have to kill you.
They just start eating.
You ever see what they do to salmon?
They just start eating.
They don't kill you first.
kim congdon
They don't care.
joe rogan
Cats kill you first.
Bears don't kill you first.
They don't have to.
kim congdon
They don't care.
You're not going anywhere.
sara weinshenk
I guess the right answer is shark.
joe rogan
I don't know if there's a good answer there.
They both suck.
Both those things suck.
sara weinshenk
What are you going?
Shark or bear?
kim congdon
I'm going shark all day, every day.
joe rogan
What about wolves?
kim congdon
I'm still going shark.
sara weinshenk
I feel like a wolf would be maybe better than a shark.
kim congdon
No way.
It wouldn't be one wolf.
No, it'd be a bunch of them.
sara weinshenk
When you paint that picture, I'm back at shark.
It was bear, shark, wolf, back to shark.
kim congdon
What do you think is the most pleasant animal death?
If you had to pick one.
joe rogan
Anaconda.
kim congdon
Ah, nice squeeze to death.
sara weinshenk
No, you think that's the most pleasant?
joe rogan
You just go to sleep.
kim congdon
The old erotic...
unidentified
Auto-erotic asphyxiation.
What's it called?
joe rogan
Auto-erotic asphyxiation.
kim congdon
Yeah, that one.
The old jerk off with a belt.
joe rogan
In excess, he died from that.
kim congdon
Who?
sara weinshenk
In excess.
joe rogan
Yeah, the band?
sara weinshenk
The band.
joe rogan
What's his name from Kung Fu?
David Carradine?
kim congdon
The whole band?
joe rogan
No.
sara weinshenk
One guy.
kim congdon
I was like, they were all doing it together?
joe rogan
One, two, three guys.
Everyone, put on the mask.
sara weinshenk
Don't let go if you love us.
joe rogan
You always gotta wonder about those kind of deaths, though.
If you were gonna kill somebody, that's a good way to pose them.
sara weinshenk
That's true.
kim congdon
Yeah, because nobody wants to get involved in the jerk-off.
They're like, oh, God, leave him alone.
It's like being in someone's diary.
joe rogan
Not only that, it shames them in death.
If you were going to make it so that you shame them in death and you also...
You present, like, such a disgusting scenario that everybody wants to just cover it up because if that's really what he was into, like, oh, if this gets out, it'd be so embarrassing.
So it kind of, like, stifles the possibility of exploring whether or not they were killed.
It's just me being criminally minded.
If I was thinking that, if you're going to whack somebody, definitely put them in a fucking wet suit, shove a dildo up their ass.
And fucking tie a rope around their neck and have them like hanging there on the edge of a chair.
And it just, it fucked up.
It didn't work out.
sara weinshenk
When I get one, I'm like, oh, they were kinky.
They were into some shit.
joe rogan
I get maybe that guy was...
A piece of shit, and maybe somebody was very mad at him, or maybe a piece of shit was really mad at him and he was a really good guy.
sara weinshenk
But he couldn't keep his mouth shut.
joe rogan
Look, I think for sure there's been people that have done things like that before.
kim congdon
Of course, yeah, set it up.
sara weinshenk
It's a sick world.
It's a sick, sick world.
joe rogan
I'm not saying the NXX guy.
I'm saying like...
In the world of whacking people, there's some insane stories that people go, oh, looks like a suicide.
kim congdon
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Looks like a suicide.
Epstein.
Here's one even crazier.
There was a guy who was working for the Clintons.
They found him hanging from an extension cord at a ranch with a shotgun wound to his chest, but the weapon wasn't there.
And they called it a suicide.
kim congdon
Whoa.
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
Seems like he got whacked.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
That one seems a little sus.
kim congdon
Well, the guy that runs Cash App.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no.
He got murdered by someone he knew.
They arrested the guy.
They arrested a guy.
He knew his sister.
And there was some sort of an altercation about him and his sister.
kim congdon
Likely story.
joe rogan
That is the likely story.
You don't think so?
kim congdon
It doesn't have to be that, either.
joe rogan
Oh my god, you're gonna peddle in baseless conspiracies.
kim congdon
She loves it!
jamie vernon
She loves TikTok.
joe rogan
Shotgun did get discovered.
Okay.
So what, initially they didn't?
jamie vernon
It was 30 feet from him.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
jamie vernon
That's pretty far, but still close.
joe rogan
Could you...
I don't know if you would...
kim congdon
I just...
joe rogan
Maybe.
Maybe that might work.
If you put it right on your chest and then blast it backwards and just let go of it, I wonder how far it would go.
jamie vernon
But yeah, it says he was found with a cord around his neck.
kim congdon
Look at that.
jamie vernon
And then shot himself.
kim congdon
Exactly what you said.
jamie vernon
In the chest.
kim congdon
And Cash App, it's some weird thing where they can't trace it or it's something about the money.
joe rogan
See, now this is from the newyorkpost.com, right?
So we're not going to know.
Unless you talk to his family.
kim congdon
No one knows anything.
joe rogan
No one knows anything.
kim congdon
The earth is flat.
joe rogan
Just the fact that the guy was found.
And he was involved in the Epstein stuff.
He had brought Epstein to the White House.
kim congdon
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, multiple times.
Wasn't that the case with him?
jamie vernon
I believe he's the same guy that did that.
Who's this guy?
In the same sort of case.
Ghislaine Maxwell's father was a very strange death.
He was found naked, upside down in the water near his yacht.
joe rogan
But also, if you're Ghislaine Maxwell's father, that's probably how you get your kicks.
unidentified
That's how Ghislaine was conceived.
Getting your dick sucked while you fill your butthole up with seawater on the side of your yacht.
kim congdon
And honestly, she comes from a horny family.
joe rogan
You get really kinky.
When you get that kind of money, you get really kinky.
These guys are hopping naked in the water, having sex, underwater, holding their breath.
sara weinshenk
They're like, let's mix it up!
Give me the furry helmet!
kim congdon
Yeah, the furries.
The furries were created.
joe rogan
So maybe that guy really did hang himself and then shoot himself in the chest with a shotgun 30 miles from his house.
Seems weird though.
unidentified
Seems like you might want to look into that one.
You guys got any satellite footage you want to share with us?
kim congdon
Everything I've ever said in my life is allegedly.
joe rogan
How good do you think the satellite footage is now?
Like if you go outside, do you think they could follow you everywhere you look?
kim congdon
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
On video?
kim congdon
Yes.
I think they could have done that 10 years ago.
joe rogan
You think so?
kim congdon
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
To be honest, I have no idea.
I don't trust, I don't trust that we're not being watched.
kim congdon
You know what I've been yelling for the last 10 years?
Anytime someone doesn't, something doesn't work, like my phone glitch, I'm like, how did we get to the moon?
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
That's so much less complicated than this phone.
kim congdon
Getting to the moon?
joe rogan
Yeah.
The amount of power that you have in your phone is vastly superior to all of the computers that were linked together in the Apollo project.
kim congdon
That's so crazy.
That's true, but that is so crazy to think about.
unidentified
Wow.
sara weinshenk
Joe, would you go to the moon if someone said, hey, I have room on my shuttle?
kim congdon
Hell no.
I would think it's a trap.
sara weinshenk
You would?
joe rogan
It's a trap.
sara weinshenk
You would?
kim congdon
Where do you think they'd take you?
joe rogan
What?
I'm going to go to a place that sucks?
unidentified
It sucks.
joe rogan
I can look at it.
I see it sucks.
Like, stepping foot on it.
I'm sure...
sara weinshenk
I got the gist.
joe rogan
I think looking at Earth from space would probably be the wildest.
That would be wild.
Like, thinking...
That's what I would like to see.
Like, you're above...
You fly out into space and you're looking back on the earth.
That's got to be an insane thing to experience.
That's got to be insane.
Because you get it a little bit when you get in a plane, but it's kind of a freaky thing that you're up here in the clouds and shit.
What are we doing up here?
kim congdon
It feels foreign.
joe rogan
How do we figure out how to do this all the time?
kim congdon
I'm not convinced.
Every time I'm on a plane.
joe rogan
It might be fake.
They might time travel you into the ER. What the fuck are you talking about?
sara weinshenk
She does some crazy OCD shit before we get into the plane.
She's got to touch it twice.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
kim congdon
I have a touch of the D, of the O and the C and the D. A touch of the D. My therapist says, I have a touch.
sara weinshenk
A trace.
kim congdon
A trace of the...
sara weinshenk
A trace of the compulsive behaviors.
kim congdon
Yeah.
joe rogan
If it works for you, if you've got a system, stick to it.
sara weinshenk
She goes, don't worry, I've got to touch the plane twice until we get there safe.
And she goes, I got us.
You're going to be happy I touched this plane.
kim congdon
I have to look the people in the eye, and if the people don't look like they have a will to live, I have to pay extra attention during the flight so we can get there.
unidentified
Pfft!
sara weinshenk
Kim controls the flights.
Maybe you do.
joe rogan
Maybe you do.
sara weinshenk
Two taps.
joe rogan
That's the thing.
Maybe there's something to that.
kim congdon
If there's someone that's not as worried as me, I have to do it.
I can tell when someone can take over and I go, oh, I can nap for a while.
We'll both keep it up.
sara weinshenk
Remember when the one captain complimented my sunglasses?
kim congdon
Yeah, that captain, you should have hit him up because we could have gotten a little buddy pass out of it.
You should have made that captain your little buddy.
joe rogan
Have you ever been on a plane where there was a squabble?
kim congdon
A fight?
joe rogan
People start fighting.
kim congdon
I've been on a plane where they had tried to, a lady, like, you need to get off, and she wouldn't get off, and she had to be removed, and then we all had to come off.
I started the boo for her, which was really fun.
The Karen boo?
sara weinshenk
Yeah.
kim congdon
She needed it.
sara weinshenk
She gets involved.
She treats everywhere like skank fest.
unidentified
She's like, boo!
joe rogan
Some of these brawls that you see on planes are fucking insane, where people just pile on top of each other in the sky.
That is so nuts that people would do that.
Just get in a fight while you're flying through the air.
kim congdon
We're in the sky, people.
joe rogan
It is so crazy.
kim congdon
I don't even want everyone jumping that much on the plane at the same time.
I'm like, don't move it.
It's crazy that we're going this way and it's going well.
Every time I'm like, wow, this is going well.
joe rogan
It's great.
We're alive.
We're flying up here in the clouds.
kim congdon
Whenever I get off when I'm exiting, I look the pilot dead in the eye.
I literally am so thankful for my life when I get off a plane.
I'm like, dude, you're just some dude.
He's just some guy standing there.
unidentified
And how many times do those planes fly?
kim congdon
I mean, they're overused machines.
unidentified
Are you sure?
joe rogan
Maybe they're perfectly used.
sara weinshenk
I have no idea.
joe rogan
You just like saying that.
kim congdon
I'm questioning everything I've ever thought.
joe rogan
Maybe they have an extensive search criteria to make sure that everything is gone over with a fine-toothed cone to make sure nothing's wrong with them.
kim congdon
I know they do, but how many...
sara weinshenk
But there's freak accidents, Joe.
unidentified
Yeah, how many times?
There's not that many.
joe rogan
If you think about how many planes fly, obviously it's one of the safest ways to travel.
If you look at it statistically, the problem is the one that happens.
It's so terrifying.
If that's how you go, everybody's horrified.
Because it's out of your hands, you're in the sky, it's all nuts.
So it's a particularly terrifying way to go.
Right up there with wolves.
sara weinshenk
It would also be weird to survive a plane crash.
kim congdon
Oh my god, I heard about a girl that survived a plane crash.
She was the only one by herself.
She was the flight attendant.
sara weinshenk
Survivor's guilt.
kim congdon
Only she had was broken ribs and I kept thinking about her ex-boyfriend, how terrified he was.
joe rogan
That lady's durable.
kim congdon
Yeah, she comes back up.
sara weinshenk
Sturdy.
She comes back up and she picks her hair.
kim congdon
She comes back and you're like, she's dead.
unidentified
Finally.
joe rogan
That's the thing about something like that.
There's certain situations where it's just dumb luck.
Like the impact, the way it hits, the way you hit, where it goes down.
It's chaos.
They're probably crash landing, right?
sara weinshenk
Before Travis Barker, you told me this.
kim congdon
Oh yeah, he says this.
I don't know if this is true.
sara weinshenk
Sorry, it's from TikTok.
kim congdon
I don't know if anything's true after this fucking podcast.
sara weinshenk
Is this even real, man?
kim congdon
Am I even here?
But Travis Barker, I think he said in a thing that his daughter asked him not to get on the flight.
She had a bad dream.
The plane crashed before he got on the flight.
And shit happens with surgeons and stuff.
If you tell a surgeon that you had a bad dream, a lot of the times they'll try and reschedule.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
sara weinshenk
Well, for me, I'd be like, my teeth were falling out last night.
kim congdon
I hope that a lot of the things I say aren't true, and people are just going to bombard me with real facts after this.
joe rogan
They probably will.
unidentified
It's fine.
joe rogan
It seems like a lot of you, you're doing voodoo.
Basically doing a lot of voodoo.
kim congdon
Me?
unidentified
Yeah.
kim congdon
Currently?
joe rogan
No, like what you're saying.
kim congdon
Oh.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, we're woo-woo, bitches.
joe rogan
A little bit of woo-woo's fun.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, I have an amethyst in my bag.
joe rogan
I bet you do.
A little bit of woo-woo's a good time.
unidentified
Sage.
joe rogan
A little bit of astrology.
sara weinshenk
A little bit.
kim congdon
A little bit of everything.
joe rogan
A little bit of Sedona timeshare.
kim congdon
Hey, sometimes you gotta go to Sedona and sit through a 10 minute or 10 hour.
joe rogan
How often do you have to go a year?
sara weinshenk
No, okay, so what happened is this.
So, I told Kim, I said, Kimmy, we're going on vacation.
Pack your bags, we're going to Sedona.
kim congdon
She involved me.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, and then when I called, they said, well, on this date you have to go to a 120 minute presentation.
And I said, nope.
Because that's where it goes down.
They lock you in a room, and that's where they make you really sign up.
kim congdon
But I heard it gets bad.
I heard sometimes they drug you.
joe rogan
Hey, you can't say that.
kim congdon
They get you drunk.
Allegedly.
Everything I said is a lie.
Nothing I've ever said is the truth.
sara weinshenk
Okay, so then...
kim congdon
What can you say?
unidentified
So then, guess what, Joe?
joe rogan
Yeah, but you can't say that because they'll sue you.
kim congdon
Who?
sara weinshenk
Big timeshare.
kim congdon
Big timeshare.
unidentified
These people, you're saying you hear they drug you?
kim congdon
There's a news article about a couple that got locked in a room, they gave them a weird drink, and then they bought a timeshare, dude.
unidentified
Really?
sara weinshenk
Yes!
unidentified
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
They're drugged?
You're serious?
kim congdon
Can you look up a couple getting drugged in a timeshare?
And I'm not saying that they do.
I'm saying that this couple said that.
Okay, so she told me- Something funky happened with their drink.
sara weinshenk
She told me this, and then everyone I talked to was like, you can't go to Sedona!
kim congdon
Drunk down presentation signing, couple reconsert nightmare.
joe rogan
Where was this?
sara weinshenk
Some even claimed they were a drug.
CBS. I gotta pee.
joe rogan
All-inclusive resorts in Mexico suspected of drugging tourists.
That was in 2017. What is that?
What are they doing?
Are they drugging them to try to get them to- Sign up!
kim congdon
I saw it, and they were like, suddenly, by the time, then you're splitting a fucking place in Mexico with 10 other people.
unidentified
Tainted.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, it just says tainted alcohol.
What does that mean?
kim congdon
Why has there been so much taint talk?
joe rogan
Alcohol of drinks with alcohol of bad quality and great amounts.
Oh, no, that's just bad drinks.
Yeah, but isn't that weird that it said, like, suspected of drugging tourists?
But when you click on it, that's deceptive, right?
sara weinshenk
The one right there?
jamie vernon
Oh, the headline being deceptive, no way.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you know what I'm saying?
Because, like, what it actually said they did versus what they really did, what they did is, like, they served them bad alcohol.
The alcohol was bad, but they weren't drugging the tourists.
They were just being assholes, and they hadn't gotten rid of their...
sara weinshenk
They were drugged.
Yeah, I mean...
Okay, so listen, so then I decided I'm not gonna go to Sedona, even though I paid for the vacation, and I had to eat the cost.
unidentified
Hmm.
sara weinshenk
Because I didn't want to get locked into a room.
joe rogan
So here it says extortion and all these cases.
There's a bunch of cases.
jamie vernon
Three or four cases of similar weird things happening in people probably at the same place.
joe rogan
Okay, so some people probably did get drugged.
And they're probably...
Yeah, that could be...
That's their excuse.
Who knows?
sara weinshenk
But now they have a place in Hawaii that they share with seven other people.
unidentified
Yeah, they have a time share in Oahu.
sara weinshenk
In Oahu.
joe rogan
Go to chill out on the beach.
sara weinshenk
Yep.
joe rogan
The dream is like a place on the Big Island or something like that.
Yeah, I like Hawaii.
The thing about the Big Island though, it's alive.
Every now and then it spits out lava.
sara weinshenk
No.
That's a little too alive for me.
joe rogan
It's really alive.
sara weinshenk
Spitting out lava.
joe rogan
The day after I was there last with my family, it happened.
Yeah, there's an eruption.
There's a great video of them.
There was one a few years back that engulfed this Mustang.
This Mustang was parked in the street and the lava comes across the street and just destroys the car.
It's gone forever.
It's amazing.
sara weinshenk
That's so crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, these people live on an active volcano.
It's the reason why Hawaii exists in the first place.
It's a volcano that erupted out of the ocean, and it became this insane paradise.
Pull this video up of the lava eating the...
We should end this soon, too.
It's a long-ass podcast.
Watch this.
sara weinshenk
Because we're having fun.
joe rogan
We were having fun.
sara weinshenk
Oh my gosh!
joe rogan
Isn't that insane?
sara weinshenk
That looks like a mud pie.
joe rogan
Watch when it hits the car.
sara weinshenk
It looks like an Oreo.
joe rogan
Look what it just does.
The car just goes right through it.
It just goes right through it.
sara weinshenk
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Just turns it into nothing.
It's crazy.
That's the earth.
sara weinshenk
That is so crazy.
joe rogan
That's the center of the earth.
sara weinshenk
That's the center of the world?
joe rogan
That's the real center of the world coming out.
That's the real center.
sara weinshenk
Literally.
joe rogan
We found the real center of the world, Kim, while you're going.
Yeah, we were talking about Hawaii being the ultimate dream to live on the Big Island, but it is an active volcano, and this happened recently.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It just consumed a car.
kim congdon
You know, not very many things happen the way you imagine as a child, and that's what I imagine happening.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sara weinshenk
Yeah, we all made that baking soda volcano.
joe rogan
Most people are not scared of volcanoes, but it's one of the scariest things in all of nature.
kim congdon
I don't know.
Yeah, it doesn't seem scary in my head.
joe rogan
Well, have you ever heard of supervolcanoes?
Supervolcanoes have knocked human beings down to just a few thousand people, like 70,000 years ago.
Was it the Toba?
The Toba eruption?
Yeah, there's one in the middle of Yellowstone.
That's what that is.
That's a caldera volcano, a giant-ass volcano in the middle of Yellowstone.
kim congdon
How big can it?
joe rogan
It's so big.
It's huge.
kim congdon
But how much can it take out?
joe rogan
It's like 300 kilometers across.
Oh, it will take out most of the country.
Yeah.
kim congdon
Hold on.
sara weinshenk
Okay, we're gonna worry about bears, sharks, anacondas, volcanoes, aliens.
joe rogan
People drugging you at all-inclusive resorts.
kim congdon
Timeshares.
unidentified
Timeshares.
joe rogan
You gotta worry about cults, everything.
sara weinshenk
All of it.
joe rogan
All of it.
kim congdon
It's too much.
sara weinshenk
Gotta keep your head on a fucking swivel.
joe rogan
Keep your head on a fucking swivel.
kim congdon
It's a gas station sticker.
You gotta think of something beautiful.
joe rogan
Yes.
Let's end with that.
Go back to that gas station.
That bumper sticker that changed Kim's life.
sara weinshenk
Now it changed ours.
joe rogan
Well, listen, ladies, I'm very happy we did this.
It was a lot of fun.
sara weinshenk
This was really fun.
joe rogan
So much fun with you.
When was the last time we did it?
sara weinshenk
2014. Wow.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
kim congdon
That is crazy.
joe rogan
You girls are veterans in the game.
unidentified
Wow.
kim congdon
I know.
joe rogan
They're doing the road.
kim congdon
I want to see the two and see us nine years ago being like...
joe rogan
Today we went off.
We probably caused lawsuits.
So tell everybody your social medias.
Tell everybody your social medias.
sara weinshenk
At Princess.
Princess like normal.
And then Shank.
S-H-E-N-K. That's where everything is.
I have a link tree with all my show dates.
And you can find everything there.
Both pods.
This bitch and Shank.
And I have a Patreon.
And that's it.
Kim?
kim congdon
You guys can follow me on Twitter at Kimberly Congdon.
Instagram at Kim Congdon.
unidentified
Look at y'all.
joe rogan
You're shy now.
kim congdon
Twitch.tv slash queencong1.
Patreon.com slash Kim Congdon.
joe rogan
Do you play video games on Twitch?
kim congdon
I do.
joe rogan
Nice.
kim congdon
I stream, yeah.
unidentified
Nice.
kim congdon
I love it.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
kim congdon
I love it.
If I could just sit at home.
If you guys like to watch it, because I want to do that all day and then go do stand-up at night.
It's so fun.
sara weinshenk
She plays Fortnite.
joe rogan
I hear ya.
kim congdon
It's so fun.
You know, yeah.
Oh, that's the pod.
Thank you.
That's our boy, Bobby Lee.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Check out the pod.
Listen.
Show dates at KimCongdon.com.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
unidentified
Ladies.
kim congdon
Thank you for having us.
joe rogan
Thank you so much.
sara weinshenk
My pleasure.
unidentified
Bye-bye.
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