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Joe Rogan Experience #1947 - Chris Distefano
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chris distefano
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The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Hello, Chrissy.
Hello.
joe rogan
Good to see you, brother.
chris distefano
Nice to see you.
joe rogan
I like the shades.
chris distefano
I know.
I feel like Jeffrey Dahmer.
joe rogan
Are those Anthony Aden's?
chris distefano
Anthony Aden.
Dude, Anthony Aden, St. Mark's, Lower East Side.
I wanted to look like a 70s, 80s mobster look.
That's what I wanted to go for.
And Anthony was like, I got you.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
You nailed it.
Yeah.
chris distefano
Anthony Aiden and he's one of those guys like a MMA guy so it's like you know he's selling these nice glasses but then he's got the cauliflower ear and he's got he's always got like bruises on his face yeah I met him in New York very nice guy he gave me a beautiful pair of sunglasses like with like rose colored shades yeah they're very nice they're transition lenses and yeah mine too And the thing is with these, is this is, you know, I'm going for it, right?
And I've went a little crazy.
You're going for it?
I'm just going for it.
I've said, you know what?
Enough's enough.
joe rogan
Enough's enough?
chris distefano
I said, I'm done.
I'm putting on glasses.
I'm wearing a watch.
joe rogan
Wow.
chris distefano
What kind of watch you got?
AP Royal Oak.
joe rogan
Ooh, that's a nice watch.
chris distefano
I just came, I talked to Andrew Santino, and I said, I want a watch.
And he sent me this link, and I said, but what about that price?
He said, if you're going to do it, just fucking do it.
unidentified
Wow.
chris distefano
And then I did it.
And then when I sent him a picture of it on, he was like, dude, I was kidding.
unidentified
You just jumped like 10 steps.
chris distefano
And then he said, you're like a different Chrissy with these glasses.
And I know, I said to you before, I'm wearing them every day.
I haven't taken the watch or the glasses off in about two weeks.
And I feel good about it now.
I feel centered with who I am.
But it does feel like, you know, a month from now, I'll look back and really regret this phase.
Why?
Because I think that...
Listen, I'm having fun.
Right now, it's no regrets.
But I'm just saying I know the way my mind works.
And I think I'm probably going too hard too fast.
Like, I just, you know, the glasses, the watch, you go, I got a tour manager.
I don't need any of this.
I'm just going.
joe rogan
Just keep going.
chris distefano
What are you worried about?
All right, then I'll do it then.
joe rogan
Yeah, you need a coach.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
You need someone in the corner going, keep going, kid.
chris distefano
Keep going.
joe rogan
Keep going.
chris distefano
I ate a bag of chicken skin in your green room.
joe rogan
Look at you.
Look at the fucking look.
I like the new look.
chris distefano
Dude, because you know what this is, too.
What?
You know what happened is I started- It's a glow-up.
It's a glow-up.
That's what it is.
joe rogan
Hey, you're glowing up.
chris distefano
It's a glow up.
I'm like Elliot Page, glowed up.
joe rogan
I think you look great.
chris distefano
I appreciate that.
joe rogan
You got a fucking bracelet on, too?
chris distefano
Dude, I'm not...
I've completely went insane.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's not insane.
You're making a little cash.
You're doing well.
chris distefano
And you know what...
joe rogan
Netflix special's doing well.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
Everything's good.
Kids touring.
The kid's making some shekels.
unidentified
Let's go.
chris distefano
The kid's doing Radio City Music Hall, folks.
unidentified
The kid's doing Radio City Music Hall, folks.
chris distefano
September 22nd.
I mean, that's...
See, for a New Yorker, that's like...
That's the thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the place.
chris distefano
You go to Radio City, and it's been amazing.
We sold 4,500 tickets the first week.
That's amazing.
It's mind-blowing for me.
joe rogan
Didn't Roy Jones Jr. have a fight there once?
chris distefano
Probably.
joe rogan
I think when Roy Jones Jr. was just merking people, Roy Jones Jr. put on a fight.
I'm pretty sure he did it there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He did it at some iconic venue in New York City, and Radio City Music Hall is one of the peaks.
chris distefano
When I started comedy, and still- Yeah, it is.
There it is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Roy Jones Jr. produced a Radio City Spectacular.
Who did he fight?
That was when...
What's that?
Oh, that's right.
Even fighting one-handed.
That was...
Yeah.
Well, that was when Roy Jones Jr. was just the fucking king of the world.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
People forgot.
Like, he had to make a song called Y'all Must Have Forgot.
He did it literally.
He made a song called Y'all Must Have Forgot because people forgot.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
He was the fucking man.
There was a period of time...
And this is the thing about fighters...
You can't keep it up forever.
It's impossible.
And a lot of times we think about fighters as who they were at the end of their career.
When their bodies were failing and they had too much mileage on the tank, on the odometer rather.
Roy Jones Jr., when he was in his peak and his prime, was as good as anybody that's ever laced on Yeah, I agree.
chris distefano
Did you watch the Paul Fiori fight yesterday?
unidentified
Yes, I did.
chris distefano
What did you think?
joe rogan
I thought it was a very good fight.
It confirmed two things that I've been saying for a long time.
One, Jake Paul is 100% legit.
People that think he's not legit, he's conning you.
He's conning you with his antics.
He's conning you with his online persona and the shit-talking and the marketing.
But if you didn't have any of that, and me as an analyst, that's one of my jobs.
I analyze mixed martial arts.
I'm not a boxing analyst, but I understand it.
When I watch him move around, it's 100% legit.
When I saw him knock out Tyron Woodley, I'm like, that is a fucking dangerous man.
Yeah.
100%.
chris distefano
Yeah.
I was watching it illegally on a phone.
joe rogan
Why don't you pay for it, you fucking piece of shit?
chris distefano
I didn't know, because I ran out of money.
I bought too many glasses.
I got I spent it all on the watch.
No, because I didn't even know, I love sports and stuff, but I'm not into, not that I'm not into boxing, I just don't ever like watch it that much.
And so the guy that I'm with, he was like, oh, the fight's happening now.
So he's like, I got a site and we started, I was eating ice cream yesterday in San Francisco in Little Italy.
And I only eat sweets once a week now.
So yesterday was my sweets day.
Nice.
I got four scoops of gelato.
So I was three and a half scoops in, and the blood sugar, the way it hit, I was getting woozy, but it's like what I've been waiting for.
And I'm watching the fight happen, and then San Francisco, right outside, I see two homeless guys Fighting.
Like, legitimately fighting.
And it was kind of one of those things where, I swear to God, even though amazing fighters, that, you know, Paul and Fury, the fight outside was so much more entertaining.
I mean, I've never seen this.
I saw a homeless man yesterday in front of, as the kid out in the green room, as my witness, roundhouse kick another, land a roundhouse kick to the chin.
The other homeless guy's face, the guy hit up against some outdoor dining, was like shell-shocked, like, you know, like woozy, bleeding from his lip, and then just scurried off.
unidentified
Wow.
chris distefano
And then I bought the homeless guy who won the fight ice cream.
I swear to God.
joe rogan
But did you know who instigated the fight?
Maybe the homeless guy with the roundhouse kick is like a crack stealer.
chris distefano
I was gonna say, I think most likely fentanyl instigated the fight.
joe rogan
I would feel like fentanyl would calm it down.
chris distefano
Yeah, that's true too.
It was, I don't know if it was the last time you've been to San Fran, but I mean, it got, you know.
joe rogan
It's pretty wild there.
chris distefano
It was wild there in North Beach, you know, Little Italy.
And I was like, man, this is next level.
But I thought, my mother always instilled in me, like, always buy homeless people food.
If you see them, buy them food.
And so that's just what I automatically do.
And I bought him ice cream.
And you know what this guy says to me?
Granted, he just won a fight.
But I came out with chocolate ice cream.
He goes, I don't like chocolate.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Well, that's probably why he's homeless.
chris distefano
Seriously, right?
Because of the ego and like...
joe rogan
Disagreeableness.
chris distefano
Yes, so I went and got a vanilla and he ate the vanilla.
joe rogan
Oh, you did that.
That's good for you, bro.
chris distefano
Because, you know, it's my sweets day.
I just had the chocolate.
joe rogan
Good for you.
unidentified
Good for you.
chris distefano
Thank you.
joe rogan
That's a lovely thing to do.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wish it was just, you know, that the people were down on their luck.
I wish it was just that.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
But there's like such a combination of factors that humans have to address.
If they really want to address homelessness, you really have to address...
Kids that grow up in the foster care system.
You have to address childhood abuse.
You have to address family history of drug addiction.
You have to address crime.
There's so many factors that lead into someone being homeless.
And the idea that you're just going to give them housing or you're just going to give them tents and everything's going to be fine.
It's like, no, you can't just ignore that as an issue.
The amount of money that it costs to have massive populations of homeless people is extraordinary.
If they just put the same amount or maybe more to prepare for the future into some sort of like comprehensive program to try to help people that are fucked up like that and clean them up, and it would probably have to involve psychedelic drugs.
chris distefano
That's what I was...
I think that you probably...
Because it's not a money thing, right?
They have money.
It's not a cure.
It's not a financial cure.
It's these people...
joe rogan
People that are just so damaged by life.
Yes.
Whether it's chemically damaged, psychologically damaged.
Maybe they don't have the right psych medications.
Maybe they're off their meds.
You know, a lot of them have gone through horrific abuse.
Like, you don't wind up in a tent in Skid Row unless shit has gone...
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
It's literally the bottom of the country.
Skid Row is like the bottom of the country.
chris distefano
Right.
But then I wonder if you get to talk to some people and they're like, this is where we want to be.
You think some people are willingly that?
joe rogan
Because they don't know anything else, right?
They don't know love.
They don't know the accomplishment of doing a thing and getting better at it and improving upon and realizing that's kind of a vehicle for improving yourself.
They haven't experienced positive things.
This is why it drives me fucking crazy.
Whenever anyone says, pull them up by their own bootstraps.
To tell people to go, figure it out yourself.
I did.
These people...
You're not dealing with the even starting line.
If everybody had an even starting line, that would make sense.
If everybody had a mom and a dad and they grew up in a house where no one smoked crack and fucking shot at each other.
If you grew up in a place like that, okay.
If we all grew up and we all had a good school to go to with good education and nice teachers that cared, but that's not everybody's experience.
And until we fucking fix that, you're never going to fix this homeless problem.
chris distefano
I was lucky to grow up.
I grew up in New York City, great parents, whatever.
But then I just had a show in Fresno a couple of days ago, and I said, if I grew up here, I'd be a little different.
joe rogan
You'd be a lot different.
chris distefano
Because Fresno is one of those places where I went, a great time.
But I mean, just being there, just being in that city for 24 hours, I was like, I don't know.
If this was my every single day, you might turn to drugs.
joe rogan
It's depressing.
chris distefano
It's depressing.
I drove from Fresno to San Jose, and we were passing through Stockton, and I thought I was in Switzerland, because that's...
What an upgrade it was from Fresno.
I was like, what are we in the fucking Alps?
joe rogan
Bro, I was driving through a street in Fresno, and people were walking out in the middle of the street like, what the fuck are you doing driving here?
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I went down a wrong area where it's like mostly homeless people.
chris distefano
Yeah.
Oh, no, no.
The Fresno skid row that I saw was, I think, the worst I've ever seen.
I'm sorry, no.
Yeah, it was San Jose, I should say.
San Jose was really, really, really fucking bad.
Over there, I was like, Jesus Christ.
And Vancouver.
I just went to Vancouver.
That was the one where I was like, I did not know that Vancouver had such a...
See, I think what Vancouver and these cities are doing is they're just putting their homeless in one section.
Because I live in New York.
I'm in New York every day.
There are homeless and they're spread out through the city, but you never see blocks of tents like you see in San Francisco and Vancouver.
So when I was there, I was like, this doesn't feel like the right move either.
You know, to just put them in one corner because New York...
They're spread out, but you don't feel them as much.
It's dangerous, but not really where San Francisco, Vancouver, they were like, you know, one of the local comics I was with in San Fran, he was like, you cannot leave anything in your car around this theater.
You cannot.
They will break in.
And I saw about four or five windows busted out, which you never see that in New York.
And I think the police in Vancouver and San Fran, from what the people were telling me, that's a district.
They don't care.
They don't even go into that district.
They just let it be a free-for-all, which I understand from the government.
It's like, well, this is our last resort, but I don't know that that's going to necessarily work.
But maybe you've got to give them psychedelics.
joe rogan
Well, what they're doing right now is not working.
You can't just let people smash people's windows.
It's so crazy.
And it's, you know, it's a direct result of horrific police violence.
chris distefano
Yes.
joe rogan
That's what it's from.
It's from you watch like the George Floyd video.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
You watch those five guys beat that man to death recently.
You see these videos.
You see the Roddy King video.
You've seen so many videos.
So people over time have decided that all police are bad and all police interactions are bad.
We need to defund the police.
And this is what that leads to.
It just leads to an increase in crime.
It's not perfect.
It's not a perfect system.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
But you need a system of law and order.
If you don't have a system of law and order, you have too many people that would just give in with no consequences to crime.
And that's not their fault in a lot of cases.
I mean, we can go through that and talk about determinism and what we've already talked about before about everybody doesn't have an even starting line.
But you've got to address that it's a problem, and you've got to address for peaceful people.
They have to be able to walk down the street and not worry about getting assaulted and robbed.
And if that happens all the time, you've got a fundamental breakdown of what your society...
In societies, strong are supposed to protect the vulnerable.
And if you're not doing that, then you don't have a society.
And then you also have this crazy gun laws, and it's a little difficult to...
You're not allowed a concealed carry.
There's a lot of...
So there's no consequence of people coming after It's not like it's like fucking the Wild West out there.
It's just the prevalence of crime has increased pretty noticeably.
chris distefano
Yeah.
And like I said, New York was, pre-pandemic, the safest city I thought in the world.
I grew up there.
I was like, it's so safe.
It's insane.
And I always would say the same thing about New York.
I would say, New York is the only city...
That like any time of the day, any day of the week, you feel like the vibrance, you feel the people.
Where I would go to a city like, even though I love it, like a city like Cleveland, Cleveland would feel, even though it's open, it felt closed.
Like that's just what the city always felt like.
And I was like, I never felt that once in New York.
But now, over the last like year or two, New York...
A lot of times, like, 50% of the week feels closed even though it's open.
And I'm like, oh, snap.
It hit New York, which I... And then, you know, I talked to my father about that, you know, complain about New York.
He was like, Chris, shut up.
He's like, I grew up in New York in the 70s and 80s.
Like, it is nowhere near as violent and unsafe as it was in the 70s and 80s.
Like, you just grew up in peacetime...
He was like, you know, you grew up in peacetime America.
Your generation are all peace kids.
joe rogan
You're born in the eye of the storm.
chris distefano
Yeah, he's like, so you didn't see any of this shit.
He was like, so you just had the privilege of growing up in a New York City and in America that you were at the top of the Roman Empire.
He was like, and now what you're seeing is kind of a little bit more of the fabric society.
He was like, my dad's like, I grew up in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
This is just reminding me of old New York.
He's like, I kind of like this grittiness of this, but you grew up, everybody's safe.
That was never going to be real.
He was like, and you know, it will probably come back.
At some point, but it's going to take a long, long time.
But I don't know.
I feel like now, like in my, you know, when I'm, even like my mom, I want to take my daughter to Times Square to the American Girl doll store.
And I just, I couldn't believe it.
I was like, no, I can't allow you to take her.
She's like, what?
It's I'm your mom, your granddaughter.
We'll go on the train and I'll take her to the store and I'll be back.
I was like, no, I won't be able to function.
My anxiety won't be able to function of thinking about you and my daughter on the train.
Because if there's a homeless person down there that's crazy off his meds and he throws one of you in front of the tracks and something happens, I won't be able to live with myself.
And those thoughts were never in my head ever.
They were never, ever, ever in my head, but now they are.
And I don't know if it's because it's reality, the media, something.
I don't know what it is.
joe rogan
I think it's a little bit of both.
It is reality.
It has happened.
So to deny that it's happened would be, that's ridiculous.
There's videos of people doing it.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
The question is, like, how many of them?
How much do you need to worry about it?
And how often is this happening?
It's not happening that often to consider how many people there are.
But the fact that it could be a possibility at all.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
You know, what's really crazy is, like, Giuliani cleaned New York City up.
unidentified
He did.
joe rogan
He really did.
I mean, it was...
A lot of people said it was, like, great overreach and thuggish behavior by the police and all the horrible shit they did, the stop-and-frisk shit.
What would they do?
They would just stop you?
chris distefano
So I had a friend who's now a detective.
He was a beat cop, 21 years old, when Giuliani implemented this stop and frisk thing.
And he said, look, he was like, I'm being honest.
My friend, he's a Latino guy.
He's like, I promise you, our sergeant would come in every morning, talk to us about stop and frisk, and he said, you stop each race, ethnicity, religion, you stop everybody equally, okay?
He said, that's what you're looking for.
Everything is equal, okay?
He said, but his beat was Times Square.
He said, now if I went in to Times Square and I grab a group of kids, pat them down, they have something, right?
But they're, you know, from a socioeconomic status that, you know, is a little impoverished, whatever, what am I supposed to do?
Say, oh, you have a gun and a knife and drugs on you, but I'm not going to take this off you.
I'm just going to let you go back out into society.
He said, no, I would have to then arrest them.
He said, well, then I would take another group of kids that wouldn't have anything, and then you let them go.
He said, and then that became...
Like, they brought race and identity politics into that type of policing, but we were stopping everybody equally.
It's just crime is in certain areas for certain reasons.
He was like, that's above my pay grade.
He said, but when they stopped that stop and frisk, he said, the reason, the thing, what's happening, at least in New York now, he said, it's we'll know that somebody has a gun or a weapon.
We'll know that they're a career criminal.
We know.
He said, but we are not allowed to...
To intervene at all unless they act first.
He said, so that creates a lot of confidence for the criminal and it creates a lot of, you know, we are scared.
He was like, flat out, I'm scared to apprehend someone because the police union, if I make a mistake or if it looks like I made a mistake, it's not going to have my back and I'm going to get sued and lose my family and lose my life.
So you start to say, well, we know you have shit, but just deal with it.
Unless you're raping, murdering someone, then I'll intervene.
But that little petty shit, I'm not going to get involved in anymore.
joe rogan
Well, I think we could look at it both ways, right?
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
This is one way we could look at it.
The old way of stopping and frisking is easy to abuse.
chris distefano
Of course.
joe rogan
And when you think about the power that you give someone, where they could just walk up to anyone, some businessman they don't like, some fucking guy who thinks he's hot shit, some guy who's with his friends who's a little too loud, you just walk up to them and go, come on, let me see all your shit.
I'm going to touch you in front of everybody, make you feel uncomfortable.
Shouldn't you have to commit a crime before the police are allowed to frisk you and take your stuff?
Shouldn't you at least be accused of a crime?
Shouldn't there at least be some sort of criminal behavior where the police have to intervene?
Because then they're like, people are going to self-correct.
And you're going to act differently in order to try to stop the cops from doing this to you.
That's like a freedom issue.
That's a real egregious attack on freedom, to just be able to point at someone and be able to just frisk them.
No crime, no nothing.
That's a weird power to give police.
And that's not good.
The other thing's not good either.
It's not good to take away all their power either.
It's not good to...
To make it so the cops are terrified to respond to a call, that's not good either.
So there needs to be some sort of a logical recognition of what the issues are.
Right now, I don't think that's happening.
chris distefano
Yeah, I don't know what it is.
I mean, you know, a guy lives with me, my girlfriend's uncle, transgender guy, T.T. Jerry, 20 years in prison.
Shout out to T.T. Jerry's lived a fucking wild life.
joe rogan
On your podcast all the time.
chris distefano
On my podcast all the time.
joe rogan
Let's open that liquor, son.
unidentified
Yeah, this is Sieste Ligas Tequila.
joe rogan
Oh, but before you do that, I think you should have a whiff.
chris distefano
Okay, yeah.
joe rogan
Because you've been wanting to have a whiff.
chris distefano
So what is this, smelling salts?
joe rogan
Is this Jujumufu stuff?
There's this dude, Juju Mufu, who's hilarious.
He's like a super power lifter, bodybuilder type character.
And these are smelling salts.
So don't throw them away when you panic, because you will panic.
You're going to take a nice deep whiff with your nostrils.
chris distefano
I already smell it, and I'm like hyperventilating.
joe rogan
Let it hit you.
Let it hit you.
chris distefano
So what do I do, though?
joe rogan
Don't throw it anywhere.
Just hold on to it.
Just don't panic once you get hit.
unidentified
Don't put your nose too far in there.
joe rogan
Get in there, bitch.
unidentified
Breathe, just breathe.
joe rogan
Take a smell, just take a sniff.
Put it up to your nose and take a sniff.
It's not complicated.
You want me to do it first?
chris distefano
Yes.
Ready?
joe rogan
Here we go.
unidentified
Oh.
Whew.
Yeah.
joe rogan
The new ones!
Oh my god, when you freshly open one, oh boy!
unidentified
That was a cool noise.
It's stunning.
joe rogan
It's stunning.
You didn't even get that close.
chris distefano
No, no, no, no.
But that's what I'm saying.
When I got there, it went up and down my esophagus and made me gargle.
joe rogan
You need a hit of this, Jamie.
chris distefano
Come on, Jamie.
joe rogan
You need a hit of this, son.
chris distefano
Come on, Jamie.
unidentified
I'll probably throw up right now.
chris distefano
Jamie, you will not throw up.
joe rogan
I feel like you need to join us.
I have all this milkshake Starbucks in me.
Oh, listen, you're going to be fine.
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
One little quickie.
I can smell from here.
unidentified
I just took a quickie.
joe rogan
Give me a quickie, Jamie.
chris distefano
Oh, I feel nauseous.
joe rogan
Jamie with a quickie.
unidentified
Let's go.
joe rogan
Oh shit, you got hit!
They're so good.
The new ones are so good.
chris distefano
Yo, you know what's crazy about that?
I just hit that.
I've had neck pain for like three days because I slept wrong.
My neck pain's gone.
I just uncricked that shit.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Here we go.
Theo Vaughn, he was addicted to this.
He kept hitting it.
chris distefano
Really?
joe rogan
Theo hit it like four or five times, didn't he?
He kept going.
He went back.
I think he hit it after the show.
chris distefano
I feel it in my eyes.
joe rogan
Yeah, I feel it everywhere, dude.
chris distefano
So this is some Anejo tequila.
joe rogan
Oh, it's beautiful.
It's brown tequila.
chris distefano
Brown tequila, extra Anejo.
Oh, dude.
Want some?
joe rogan
Thank you.
chris distefano
There we go, baby.
joe rogan
Yeah, where's the lid?
chris distefano
The lid for the...
Oh, for that stuff?
unidentified
Is this it?
joe rogan
I'm fucked up.
chris distefano
Oh, shit, the lid...
Oh, here, it fell down right here.
unidentified
Hold on.
chris distefano
Let me get it.
unidentified
Hold on.
chris distefano
I got it.
There you go.
joe rogan
We're in a panic with this fucking smelling salts.
It's so powerful.
chris distefano
There you go, puppy.
joe rogan
I love you, my brother.
chris distefano
Yes.
joe rogan
Cheers.
unidentified
Cheers.
chris distefano
Yeah, dude.
I've never experienced something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, these guys take it before they lift.
I guess it just shocks the central nervous system and then they fucking...
chris distefano
Go wild, right?
joe rogan
Pull up a picture of Juju Mufo.
You've got to see this dude.
Well, you should watch actually video of him because he's more impressive in video.
He's really a crazy athlete.
He's not just like a power lifter.
He does like back flips.
chris distefano
I wonder if they have that stuff on the...
Dude, by the way, I just saw...
I don't know if you guys spoke about it on the show.
I just saw something when I was coming in today that one section of the war in Russia, the Ukrainian soldiers on the front line have a four-hour lifespan.
I was like, what the fuck?
Four-hour lifespan?
I was like, is that even...
How can that be real?
joe rogan
Is that real?
chris distefano
I saw it in the news article.
Four-hour lifespan.
But that made me think of that.
I wonder if what these soldiers...
Like when the Nazis used to take crystal meth before and then just go crazy.
They do shit like that.
joe rogan
I don't think they do shit like that, but they definitely take amphetamines.
chris distefano
Yeah, you have to, right?
joe rogan
That's a common thing.
It helps them at war.
I mean, the Vikings took mushrooms.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, the Berserkers.
What they would do is they'd get fucking high as fuck on psilocybin.
They would chew down psilocybin.
That's Jujimusa.
chris distefano
Oh, I've seen this guy.
joe rogan
The dude's doing a full split, sideways split, while he's holding up two 45-pound plates that are dangling from rubber bands with a bamboo pole.
Do you know how unstable that is?
Like I wouldn't even be able to hold that over my head probably.
This dude is balancing on a full split.
With, you know, in between two chairs.
Like, he's a crazy athlete, man.
chris distefano
He's a crazy human being.
joe rogan
It's a crazy human being.
chris distefano
But a positive crazy.
joe rogan
But it's fun.
It's fun.
He's a fun dude.
chris distefano
And, yeah, I mean, that guy, I'm sure he, I think he intermittent fasts.
Do you think he's into intermittent fasting, a guy like that?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I would imagine he's into a lot of things.
chris distefano
Dude, that changed my whole life.
I dropped 35 pounds, I fucking, I stocked out of social media, and I started intermittent fasting.
Life changed, bro.
joe rogan
Good for you.
chris distefano
Life changed.
It's literally, I just said to myself, I can't give any more energy to things that are not helping me.
I can't give energy to strangers anymore.
So I have somebody who runs my social media, Brian Morton.
He's a big fan of yours.
He's got hair.
joe rogan
Shout out to Brian.
chris distefano
Shout out Brian.
He's got hair like Lancelot, like medieval hair.
I've never seen a guy pull off a fucking medieval bob like this kid.
But he runs it for me now.
And dude, it's changed.
I got to a point where I was 255 pounds.
And I was fucking around, right?
I was 255 pounds, didn't even realize it.
And I put on one of T.T. Jerry's wigs, like just chilling, whatever.
And I got on the scale.
Just fucking, I don't know what I was doing.
And I looked 255. And I said to the mirror, I said, you look like a fat Howard Stern right now.
unidentified
Wow.
chris distefano
And it was funny, like my family were all laughing hot, Pat Howard Stern running around my tits, you know, and my daughter, everybody's having fun.
And then, it's on my birthday, August, so just a few months ago, and then I go in the shower, right, and I'm not even thinking, it's not even in my head, out of nowhere, Hysterical crying bawling crying like something hit me that I was suppressing like literally like Uncontrollable tears like snot coming out of my nose like a seven-year-old could not stop and something like broke Inside of me and then I think this is where the universe comes in.
It's not that it happened like I think I just had probably seen stuff like this before but now that my eyes were open to look I started taking in information and I'm on Twitter like you know Two hours later, just mindlessly scrolling, dealing with the emotions, whatever.
And I see a tweet from Elon Musk.
And he wasn't promoting this.
It was a genuine tweet.
He goes, the Zero Intermittent Fasting app is awesome.
That's all he wrote.
And I said, I'm going to download that app right now.
And I downloaded this app, Zero Fasting app.
And I'm just like, I'm just going to do this for two weeks.
I'm just going to stay in an eight hour, six or eight hour feeding window.
Don't worry about not eating sweets or pizza.
Just eat all the food you want to eat, but just eat it in that window.
And let's see what happens for two weeks.
joe rogan
What does the app do?
chris distefano
So the app, pretty much, I mean, Joe DeRosa makes fun of me.
He's like, dude, all it is is a fucking timer.
joe rogan
The app is just a timer?
chris distefano
He's like, you're an asshole, dude.
You're making it like this is from the Mayans.
It's a timer on your phone, you jerk off.
But basically, when I start eating, like let's say I start eating, my first meal is at 10am.
I'm eating from 10 to 6. And at 6pm, I press the button, start fasting.
And then it starts to go.
And then at 10am, I'll get a notification the next day, Feeding window over, congratulations.
And then the more time you stay in the fast, it'll say, now you're in the fat burning, now you're in the ketosis, whatever.
And so I just said to myself, I'm gonna stay to this.
And dude, in those two weeks, even though I was eating bullshit, in two weeks, It's not that the weight dropped, but the composition of my body was starting to change.
And I noticed, I was like, oh, I ran like half a mile more.
I had 10 more pounds on the end of the bench press.
And then it just became like, this is what I do now.
Now I'm Chrissy intermittent fasting, but then I think the glasses and the watch is from the fasting.
joe rogan
Well, it's a full glow-up.
You're doing the body glow-up, too.
chris distefano
Yeah, and Jazz, my girlfriend, hates it.
She's like, what the, you know?
Why does she hate it?
Because she's like, you know, glasses, the watch, the body, what the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
She doesn't like it?
chris distefano
I was like, I'm trying to be healthy, babe.
joe rogan
She wants to keep you fat.
chris distefano
She wants to keep me fat.
unidentified
Wow.
chris distefano
Yeah.
She wants to keep me fat, and I told her.
joe rogan
Are you sure?
chris distefano
Maybe not.
joe rogan
Maybe she just doesn't want to put pressure on you.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's worried if you're going crazy with all the watch and the glasses and the fat that you might snap.
chris distefano
Well, she gets worried about me because I go harder, go home.
And she's like, you go too fast.
She goes, you go from zero to 100, and I just worry that you've lost all this weight in this good period, quick period of time, and I just worry that there's a, you know, you go too hard and then something else happens.
Because she reminded me, she's like, remember the last time you lost all this weight this quick?
It was 2018. And I said, yeah.
And she's like, and then remember all of 2019, you thought you were gay?
unidentified
She was like...
chris distefano
I just don't want that to happen and that's what happens And it's true.
It tipped my personality.
unidentified
Go hard or go home.
chris distefano
I go hard or go home.
And that's the phase I'm in now with the glasses, with who I am.
I just booked myself with the Four Seasons.
I said, I'm fucking living.
joe rogan
And by the way...
You can't worry about things like that.
Like, am I gay?
chris distefano
Right.
Yeah, because I've made a commitment to say I'm not gay.
At least I have.
I've kind of said, because I've been on the fence a while, but I've said I'm not gay.
You know what?
You're not gay.
And actually Tim Dillon, the great Tim Dillon, told me- He convinced you?
joe rogan
He convinced me I'm not gay because he said- It's funny because a lot of people think Tim's not gay.
They think it's a scam.
chris distefano
They think Tim's not gay.
joe rogan
It's a scam.
chris distefano
Interesting.
joe rogan
It's a scam.
chris distefano
First, Patreon.
joe rogan
Well, so it gives them the get out of jail free pass.
chris distefano
It's a good point.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
There's so many things that he can make fun of that we can't even touch.
chris distefano
Yeah.
Well, you know, that's smart.
So maybe I'm rethinking this gay thing if that is a scam.
Maybe that's the scam of the century.
joe rogan
That's the move.
chris distefano
But he said an interesting thing.
He said he knows I'm not gay because even though I play around and I'll be like, you know, I'll joke.
I'm like, I don't need cock unless it's in my fasting window.
Like, you know, we'll joke around and whatever.
But then I asked him seriously once.
I was like, do you think I'm, like, possibly gay?
And he was like...
And he was like...
And he said, no.
He said, no, because you know why you're not gay?
He said, because you actually are insecure about your body.
He said, so there's times where you'll be like, oh, my nipples are fat.
And he said, gay men usually lean in to body positivity and how sexy my body is, whatever.
He said, so since you don't, he's like, I just don't think, like a gay guy would be more like, look at how, look at how How imperfectly perfect I am.
He said, most gay men.
Tim is a different breed because it's a scam.
But I was like, interesting.
So he kind of gave me the confidence to move forward and say, you're not gay.
joe rogan
Well, I'm glad he did that for you.
That's a true friend.
chris distefano
Because Jasmine has brought up that she thinks I'm gay multiple times.
She thought I'm gay right after sex.
She's just something.
And I thought I laid it on her.
We had great, powerful sex.
And she'd be like, honey, rubbing my chest.
She's like, it's okay if you're gay.
Everything is okay.
And I'm like, what do you think?
And then she'll never give me an answer.
joe rogan
Maybe that's what she wants.
chris distefano
Because I think if I was gay, then there would be less worry from her.
Because I think her walking in on me with a woman is a lot harder than her walking in on me with Tim Dillon.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right.
That makes sense.
chris distefano
She would be able to accept that.
But I'm not gay.
That's the thing.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Yeah.
And if I was, by the way, I'd be supportive of it.
joe rogan
And I would be supportive of it as well.
chris distefano
I'll say this.
joe rogan
Please do.
chris distefano
I'm going to commit to not being gay, at least to New Year's Eve of 2023. And 2024, we start over, Jamie.
joe rogan
Well, New Year's Eve of 2023. How many months is that?
Where are we at?
Ten months.
chris distefano
You can do it.
Listen, if I can keep my fasting window in six hours...
joe rogan
If you can keep that watch and those glasses on for two weeks...
chris distefano
I haven't taken them off once.
Anthony Aiden specifically told me, don't go in the shower with them.
I shower with them every day.
Same thing with the watch.
When I went and got this watch, shout out my guy Yanni from Material Goods.
joe rogan
It sounds like a guy would sell you a watch.
chris distefano
He was wearing these glasses.
We had matching glasses on.
And he's a great guy.
Great guy.
And he was like, do you know?
He's an awesome guy.
He's like, do you know anything about watches?
I was like, not a thing.
He was like, okay.
So he goes, why don't you go around the store and just pick out five watches that you really like.
You don't even know what the price is.
Just pick out what you want.
So I pick out five watches, and he goes, hmm, interesting.
He was like, how much do you think these are, total?
I was like, I have no idea.
I was like, 20 grand.
He was like, you just picked out $1 million worth of watches.
I was like, whoa, whoa, wee, whoa.
He was like, so obviously, let's scale it back.
He started explaining to me the AP. I'm a lunatic.
He started explaining to me the AP, the Rolex, the Patek, all that.
And then he brought out this, the Royal Oak.
And, you know, Santino had shown it to me, and I said, it's a sign from God.
Santino sent me a link to that.
joe rogan
Santino has one of those.
chris distefano
Santino has one of these.
joe rogan
They're beautiful watches.
chris distefano
Beautiful watches.
And that price was wild.
But I said, you know, I spoke to my accountant.
I'm...
I, you know, I got a family to run, so I try to be responsible financially.
I spoke to my accountant.
I said, you know, is it okay to buy this watch?
He said, this is a new Chrissy, huh?
I said, yeah, I want to live in this.
He goes, you sure that's not a spur-of-the-moment decision?
I said, I said to my accountant, I said, fucking, do I have the green light or what?
I'm ready to go.
And he was like, you can do it.
It's an appreciating asset.
So that's why I don't mind you doing it.
You can do it.
It appreciates.
Fine.
Do it.
And then I fucking did it.
And I got to be honest, when I put this on, there was a part of me that was like, what are you doing, Chris?
What are you doing?
This is not you.
What are you doing?
But now that I've had it on, it kind of, you know what happened?
It's like I instantly put it on.
I'm beautiful.
Beautiful watch.
I instantly put it on and it took me back to 2010, to March of 2010, and I hadn't even thought about this when I made the decision to do comedy.
I was on the elliptical at Force Fitness in Ridgewood, Queens.
Shout out Force Fitness.
I was on the elliptical working out like a stepmom.
And I was hitting those calories, and I was going hard.
Go hard or go home.
That's always been who I am.
And I was on the elliptical, and I had been thinking about the idea of doing comedy for years, but I didn't have the balls to do it.
And I said, Chris, something popped in my head.
I was listening to Fall Out Boy on my headphone.
It was, you know, at an iPod back then.
I was listening to Fall Out Boy, and something about the beat and the song gave me this adrenaline rush, and I started thinking about being on stage trying stand-up.
And I said, once you get off this elliptical, once you hit your 45 minutes, you're going to get off, you're going to go back to your mother's house where you live, you're going to take a shower, and you're going to go find an open mic.
And you're going to do this now.
And I said, I'm doing it.
And I did it.
I went and found the creek in the cave when it was Long Island City, Queens.
Shout out Rebecca Trent.
First open mic.
And I walked into that open mic.
If 2010 and I saw a young Mark Norman, a young Sam Morrill, a young Michael Che, all open micers.
Nobody knew.
And I knew they had already been doing it.
And I was like, these guys are great.
And I went in there, did my five minutes, absolutely bombed.
But I said, I'm not turning back and I'm going to go on this journey of comedy.
And when I put this watch on, something like teleported me back there and was like, dude, that decision, you went from the elliptical to affording this watch with jokes.
And I was like, be proud of yourself.
Don't...
One of my close friends was like, you're a fucking douche for that.
And I was like, you know what?
I'm not going to let that shit get in.
I'm proud of this.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Your friend said you were a douche for buying the watch?
chris distefano
He said I was a douche.
He was like, you're fucking...
There's kids starving all over.
I was like, I give money to charity too.
I just felt like...
joe rogan
Oh, that's a ridiculous hater gesture.
chris distefano
I didn't even negotiate with him.
In my head, I said, don't let him.
That's his problem.
I said, you're proud to do this.
I'm happy about this.
I always beat the shit out of myself.
I feel proud of myself for letting comedy get me to this.
Good for you.
I feel proud.
joe rogan
You deserve that.
chris distefano
Yeah, and I never really feel proud.
unidentified
You deserve that thought.
joe rogan
The idea that you should never engage in any luxury at all is ridiculous.
It's silly.
People somehow or another think that you should give all of your money away because people are starving.
That's not going to fix anything.
You've got to fix things systemically.
You've got to fix things literally at the level.
You have to be boots on the ground and wherever the problem is.
The idea that you not buying that watch or keeping someone poor is so stupid.
chris distefano
Yeah, it's nothing to do with me.
joe rogan
You're either playing the game of capitalism or you're not.
And everybody who works for a living is playing the game.
You might not like the game.
You might think the game's unfair.
But you can't get mad if Sony buys something nice.
You want to buy something nice, too.
People like nice things.
Everybody has their own nice things.
For some people, it's a nice guitar.
For some people, it's a watch.
For some people, it's a nice house.
It's not a bad thing.
chris distefano
Yeah, it's like, you know what?
One part of me buys an expensive wash, the other part of me buys homeless people ice cream.
unidentified
There you go.
chris distefano
I have duality.
joe rogan
Yeah, you really did.
You covered both of them already.
chris distefano
Where my friend who's hating on me, he's not doing anything.
joe rogan
What does he do?
chris distefano
Works for sanitation.
unidentified
Yeah.
chris distefano
DSNY. Shout out sanitation.
Garbage men are, you know, they're out there, but, you know, he's angry every day.
joe rogan
You ever heard the quote that all criticism is the tragic result of unmet needs?
I've used that way too much lately.
That's the last one.
chris distefano
All criticism?
joe rogan
I'm going to take a break.
It's the tragic result of unmet needs.
Okay.
That's an abbreviation.
The full quote is actually more eloquent.
chris distefano
What's your favorite quote?
I feel like you're a quote.
You're Joey quotes.
joe rogan
I don't have a favorite quote.
I mean, it's amazing that there's so many of them out there, though, that you can get them off your phone instantaneously.
Like, people mock, like, meme quotes and inspirational quotes.
But if you could find out about Socrates in, like, a five-second little Instagram photo, and you read a quote, you're like, wow, that's pretty profound.
And then you go and read more of Socrates, and then next thing you know, you're, like, reading his books.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're reading, you know, Meditations by Marcus Aurelio.
It's a wild book that's applicable today.
chris distefano
That's sick.
That's my favorite follow.
That's Stoic Instagram.
joe rogan
Oh, Stoic is great.
Yeah.
Ryan Holiday is great, too.
chris distefano
Oh, yeah.
Ryan Holiday, yeah.
He looks like the guy that killed four college students in Idaho.
unidentified
He does.
chris distefano
That's who I thought it was.
I was like, oh, the stoic is a mass murderer.
joe rogan
He's out.
He's out.
He's writing books about just being cool about everything.
chris distefano
Did you hear that, by the way, with Idaho?
They're thinking about bringing back the firing squad if he gets convicted.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Well, they think he might have killed people in Washington State, too.
unidentified
Interesting.
joe rogan
Is that where it was?
It was somewhere else.
There was another place where he lived where similar crime took place, and they think he was studying...
A crime in college in order to get better at it.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
It's really, it's an evil, scary story.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If all this, they're accusing him is accurate, it's horrific.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That guy was out there.
chris distefano
Right.
Dude, you want to hear a wild story?
So my mom had a friend.
joe rogan
Let's see if we can find out if that's true, though.
chris distefano
Yeah.
unidentified
Which part?
joe rogan
The part where they think that he might have committed a similar crime somewhere else.
chris distefano
Here we go.
See, this is what's happening now on an intermittent fasting stomach.
I'm going to start getting crazy.
It might get bad in here.
joe rogan
Want to take another sniff?
chris distefano
Why the hell not?
joe rogan
All right, here we go.
unidentified
Ready?
joe rogan
Oh!
unidentified
That was deep.
joe rogan
Oh!
chris distefano
Joey went in.
joe rogan
I went in.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Get in there, Chrissy.
unidentified
Woo!
Woo!
joe rogan
Jamie?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No?
Jamie said no.
I didn't even get his full name out before no was coming out of his mouth.
chris distefano
Jamie, that one burned.
That one fogged up my glasses.
That one burned, baby.
joe rogan
I get it, dude.
I want a lift right now.
I want to do some deadlifts.
chris distefano
I seriously, like, yeah, like, I want to fucking, I want to, yeah.
joe rogan
Put the lid on it.
chris distefano
I want to start doing jujitsu with you.
I don't even know how to do it.
joe rogan
There's nothing like a freshie when you open them up fresh.
chris distefano
That is a freshie.
joe rogan
Yeah, when you let them sit for a while, they lose a lot of their potency.
We had one that was here for a few months, and it had lost a lot of kick.
But damn, when you open them fresh.
I don't see anything about other crimes.
unidentified
I'm trying.
joe rogan
I'm looking still.
I believe it was where he was originally going to school.
jamie vernon
He had said he was Washington State.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But just Google may have possibly committed similar crime in Washington State.
Washington crime.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Just Google may have possibly committed, wanted for possibly committing similar crime.
chris distefano
A lot of serial killers come from this part of the country.
joe rogan
He could be major linked to other murders.
This is it.
And this is in Newsweek.
chris distefano
Okay.
joe rogan
It says, new evidence recovered may be a major link to the Idaho murders.
He's been accused of fatally stabbing University of Idaho students.
The search warrant, which was reported by the New York Times, discussed several items which were taken from his residence.
Where is the thing about the other cases?
Oh, here it is.
On December 30th, he was arrested at his parents' residence in Pennsylvania, extradited to Idaho where he's currently charged.
Koberger was attending Washington State University at the time of the murders.
chris distefano
Yeah, he looks like the guy from the Stoic.
joe rogan
He does, he looks a lot like him.
But Ryan Holiday is quite a bit more handsome.
His older, meaner brother.
unidentified
Ryan Holiday, hottie with a body.
jamie vernon
It says Pennsylvania was sifting through cold cases for links to him.
joe rogan
Oh, it was Pennsylvania?
Interesting.
chris distefano
Yeah, they pulled him over, and it was in his parents' house.
Because remember, the media was saying, we don't know, we don't have any leads, but the FBI was following him across the country.
joe rogan
Yeah, they can't just leak all that information.
They're in the middle of an investigation of a fucking psycho.
chris distefano
But it is wild.
He's famous now for these murders, but as you said, could be stuff before.
My mom had a friend, right?
Grew up in Utah.
Maybe she's 18, 19 years old, whatever year, 70s, 80s, whatever.
Goes on a date with a guy, right?
Normal date, just met him, I think, at the supermarket.
Goes on a date with this guy, and she's at the table with him, and she feels very, like, an ominous feeling looking at this man.
She's like, I'm looking at him, and I can see, like, there's nothing behind his eyes.
Like, there's just something that I don't like about this guy.
So to the point where she has never done this, you know, she was only 18, but since this has never done this, she went to a payphone at the restaurant, called her brother, and was like, can you please come pick me up, like, immediately, and stayed in the bathroom until her brother was outside, and went in the car and left.
And she was like, I'm just creeped out by this guy.
I can't explain it.
I'm creeped out.
All this energy.
I'm creeped out, creeped out.
Now, he had this man had picked her up from her house.
So the brother had a paper route.
He's leaving the next morning at 5 a.m.
See some ruffling in the bushes.
Okay?
Crazy, right?
Like, whatever.
Sees a guy running out of the bushes.
Says, holy shit, whatever.
Runs back in the house.
Tells his mom and dad.
Sister wakes up.
Says he was wearing, like, a beige jacket.
She's like, that's the guy I was on a date with.
Like, that.
He was, like, waiting.
He must have been, like, waiting for me, right?
Whatever.
Goes on.
Life goes on.
What a psycho lunatic boyfriend.
Three years later.
Ted Bundy, on the news, face, she was on a date with Ted Bundy before he had committed any murders, or he had committed murders but had not been famous for it yet, had not been convicted of it yet.
She said when he saw him, she literally almost fell out of her chair because she was like, that look.
She said that Ted Bundy about, you know, how, you know, everyone says he's so handsome, whatever.
She said he would get a look over him when he was praying on a victim, which she felt she was being prayed on, that she doesn't even look.
He's like, he does not look like that.
His face configures and contorts to something that looks so sinister that she literally was like, get me away from him now.
So I was like, whoa, fucking Teddy B.
Imagine you on a date with a young Teddy B.
That'd be fucking nuts, dude.
joe rogan
So he had already committed murders.
So he was looking to murder her.
And he was giving that energy out.
chris distefano
She said, you know, based off when all his crimes were exposed, from what the FBI said when she went on a date with him, let's say it was 1978, he had already been connected to murders and other parts of that.
Because his first murders were in, like, the Utah region, and that's where they were.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
chris distefano
Wild, right?
unidentified
Holy shit.
chris distefano
Dude, fucking, it's pretty nuts.
And then, I think I might have said this on the last one, but T.T. Jerry, when she was in prison, served prison time with the son of Sam.
She shared a wall with the son of Sam.
Two murderers.
She shared one with the son of Sam and Ronald DeFeo from the Amityville Horror House.
The man who killed all those people in the movie, the Amityville Horror, who was really based off Ronald DeFeo.
She was in prison with both of them at the same time.
And the prisoners from Escape from Dannemora, who like that Showtime show that they made.
So she was in like real deal prisoners, but she said the son of Sam.
Now, this was months before the Netflix documentary came out.
T.T. Jerry said, you know, the son of Sam, David, did not kill all those people.
He was involved in a cult.
There were other murderers, but the city pinned it all on him.
And then a few months later, this Netflix documentary comes out, came out a couple of years ago, basically saying that most likely son of Sam did not kill all those people.
He killed maybe one or two, but there was other murderers that just got away with it.
joe rogan
Do you know the Henry Lee Lucas story?
chris distefano
Henry Lee Lucas.
joe rogan
Henry Lee Lucas.
They made a film about him called Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer.
chris distefano
Okay.
joe rogan
And it's a guy who got arrested for 62 murders.
And he was basically a drifter.
And he was traveling across the country murdering people.
chris distefano
Okay.
joe rogan
But...
They think that what really happened was they came up to him and they said, you know, hey, Henry, you know, there was a few people that were killed behind the bushes in Indianapolis in 76. We'd sure love to solve that crime.
Was that you?
Yep, that's me.
I killed them, too.
Well, did you do it with a knife?
Because we found a knife.
Yep, knife.
Killed them with a knife.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
And this guy was basically a dullard and may have killed people.
Like, you know, a lot of drifters have killed people.
But it seems like...
Google that.
Make sure I'm correct on this.
I think now they think that they attributed a bunch of crimes to him that he couldn't possibly have committed.
chris distefano
It's a wild thing.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
The depraved serial killer who confessed to hundreds of murders.
See, this is it.
So it was more than...
62, which is what I think he was originally charged with.
600 people!
Okay.
Drawn together by shared childhood trauma, Henry Lee Lucas and Otis Toole became lovers, then serial killers who terrorized America in the 1970s.
But he confessed to hundreds of murders, but they think that some of them he couldn't possibly have done.
chris distefano
But did he stay in prison for the rest of his life because of it?
joe rogan
Yeah, they might have killed him.
chris distefano
In prison.
joe rogan
I don't know what happened.
I don't know if he's still alive.
But see if that's a story that they got him to confess to a bunch of murders that he couldn't have actually done.
chris distefano
That's a common thing, though, right?
People confess to stuff all the time.
There's a show on Apple TV. It was called Blackbird.
It just came out last year.
It's about a real story about a guy who, what his tactic would be, Is he murdered a lot of people?
But he would say to the police, oh, I murdered that girl in that county.
I'm confessing to it.
But then they would go through the research and be like, no, you couldn't have possibly.
But he would cop to it, and then the cops would be like, he did that like five times.
They'd be like, every county he was investigating, they'd be like, that's what he does.
He confesses to murders.
He's a bullshitter.
But he really was killing people.
He was confessing to false ones so he could get away with the real ones.
unidentified
Holy!
joe rogan
Wild, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
chris distefano
So it's like some of these guys are so smart.
Dude, the show Blackbird, this actor, I think it's William Houser, this is one of the best actors in my generation.
Joe, I don't know if you know this guy, this guy's acting is like Daniel Day-Lewis level.
He is a phenomenal actor.
When you watch the show Blackbird, you cannot believe it.
joe rogan
And this is on Apple Plus?
chris distefano
Apple TV. This is one of the best shows I've seen.
joe rogan
Wow.
chris distefano
Came out last summer.
joe rogan
No shit.
chris distefano
This kid is literally like phenomenal.
And then I'm watching 101 Dalmatians a day later with my kids and he's in that.
I'm like, look at this fucking lunatic.
jamie vernon
He plays Richard Jewell.
joe rogan
Yes.
jamie vernon
In the Richard Jewell movie about the Olympic Park bombing.
chris distefano
Yep.
Unbelievable actor.
He was also in that sketch show, I Think You Should Leave on Netflix, which is one of the funniest sketch shows I've ever seen in my life.
He's got great sketches in that.
But that show, Blackbird, it's unbelievable.
So basically what happens is this guy, who's from a bunch of movies.
This kid is ripped, by the way.
This kid has to be intermittent fasting.
unidentified
He's in The Watchman.
chris distefano
Not The Watchman.
With Samuel L. Jackson's in it.
It's a famous movie and he's excellent in it.
But basically the premise is based on a true story.
This guy, the hottie with the body, he gets convicted 10 years in prison for gun charges.
I think he's a guy out of Massachusetts.
So, and he was a good con man, right?
This is all real.
Good con man, you know, gift a gab, whatever.
So the FBI wants to pin the guy with the mutton chops, Hauser, they want to pin, Larry Hall is his name in real life, they want to pin murders on him.
They know that they've kind of caught up to his game now.
They know that he lies about murders here, to commit murders here, they know it, but they got to convict, they got to get him to confess to one of these murders because they found the girl's body.
Because he was killing kids, like 14 year old girls, like brutal shit, raping them, horrific.
So they say to this kid, to the jacked guy, they say, look, you got the gift of gab.
You got 10 years in federal prison, okay?
You're three months into your sentence.
We're gonna transfer you to this maximum security prison where Larry Hall is.
If you can get him to confess To the murder of this girl that we have evidence on and you can get that your sentences commuted immediately and you're out of prison.
That's all you got to do.
But he was in a minimum security prison so he would be able to either coast through 10 years or take a chance and go to the prison with murderers, rapists and potentially be murdered in the shower stall.
But if he can get this guy, gift a gab, and get him to confess, then he'll get out.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
chris distefano
And that's what the show's about.
And it was, dude, amazing show.
Like, edge of my seat.
It was one of the best shows I've seen in a long time.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
chris distefano
I want to watch it again on Smelling Salts.
joe rogan
Thank you for bringing that up.
I'm fucking pumped about that.
I've been looking for a new show.
chris distefano
Yeah.
Oh, and by the way, before, let me just finish a thought about Jerry.
What I want to say is the Son of Sam thing, he said, you know, he was a serial killer.
Yes.
And don't get me wrong, murderer, you know, deserves to be in prison.
He said the biggest fucking lunatic, like he was like the only person who I met.
I was like, this guy needs to be like either put to death or kept like in a cage, like under the jail.
He said it was Ronald DeFeo, who the Amityville Horror House guy, because he said he would cook for him all the time, Ronald DeFeo, and he would, like, let Ronald DeFeo, like, jerk off to him.
They would put, like, a prison mirror, and he would, like...
Because he was trans, Jerry, so he would shake his ass a little bit and let Ronald, like, get his rocks off, whatever.
He didn't care.
He said, but every morning, he would make Ronald DeFeo Jr. like a little breakfast on his little...
They had little hot stoves in there.
They would let prisoners like Jerry, after you did enough time, give you some stuff.
He'd make a little bacon and stuff for him.
And he said, every morning, like clockwork, seven days a week, every morning, bring Ronald his food and say, how was your night, Ronald?
How are you feeling?
He was like, good.
I feel good.
I didn't kill my grandma.
It's the only thing.
I killed everyone in that house, but I did not get my grandma.
But everything other than that, it's good.
And Terry would be like, okay.
So he's like, still, he's in prison.
And that is true.
The only one he didn't kill in that house, the grandma either got out or wasn't there.
But he was like, there's no rehabilitation for that man.
He genuinely believes if he does not kill his...
He would say to him, if I don't kill my grandma, I'm not getting into heaven.
So he had it warped.
He killed his entire family.
He's like, that's how I get to heaven.
But I got to get the grandma.
And then he died in prison recently.
But I was like, whoa.
unidentified
Whoa.
chris distefano
Whoa, shit.
I know.
It's wild.
unidentified
Yeah, there's people that are just not wired correctly.
joe rogan
Dude, that's a real problem with this homeless situation.
It's a real problem with this guy in Idaho.
chris distefano
Pedophiles.
joe rogan
By the way, shout out to the FBI for finding that guy.
chris distefano
Thank you.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Because the FBI takes a lot of shit, justifiably, for agent provocateur accusations at the Capitol's riot.
But the fact that they caught this fucking psycho, it shows you how necessary they are.
chris distefano
The FBI is the FBI. They need to be there.
joe rogan
Like, you can't say, let's disband the FBI. Jesus fucking Christ.
But people think like that.
It's the same as defund the police, defund this, defund the military.
Like, settle the fuck down.
chris distefano
Yeah, it's like, you know, when you hear people go off, they're just regurgitating things they hear on social media.
It's like, the American justice system is the best justice system in the world.
The FBI is the top.
The U.S. military is the top of the top.
Like, what are we talking about here?
joe rogan
It's not perfect.
No one's saying it's perfect.
But the defunding thing, I just don't agree.
I see what the results are when it comes to police.
It's not a good result.
And if they don't change course, this is bad.
chris distefano
No, dude, I've been yelling refund.
I yell refund the police.
I love the police.
joe rogan
You need to be trained, and it needs to be a position that's difficult to acquire that gets respected.
Now, how do you make that shift?
But it's got to be like...
You know, people are terrified of this concept of militarizing the police, and rightly so.
You don't want tanks rolling down the street and martial law and dictators who are essentially, you know, they used to be governors and now they're dictators and they're controlling populations.
chris distefano
You don't want that.
joe rogan
But you don't want untrained people in that role, and you don't want people that don't have a real clear understanding of what to do in any scenario.
So they have to run drills the same way they do it in the military.
In the military, they're constantly training.
If you're in a special operations group, like my friends that have been the SEALs, They fucking constantly train for any scenario they're trying to do.
Any breach they're trying to get into a house.
They train.
That's a thing that police should be doing too, all the time.
Jocko Willink, who was a Navy SEAL commander.
I know Jocko, sure, of course.
He's the man.
I love that guy to death.
But one of the things that he said is like, you have to train people in order for them to be able to respond in high-pressure situations.
So you have to train them.
Of all the possible scenarios, and by the way, you should be able to have some sort of physical confrontation.
You cannot be completely unskilled physically and be a police officer and be 100% effective.
chris distefano
No.
joe rogan
When you see those people when they get tackled and guys get on top of them, they don't know what to do.
How do you not have any understanding of grappling and you're engaged in these physical altercations with people?
Andrew Yang said you should be at least a purple belt in jiu-jitsu.
chris distefano
I agree with that.
joe rogan
Which is a great concept.
Purple belt's a very proficient level of jiu-jitsu.
Yes.
100%.
You should know how to defend yourself.
But you should also be well-funded and well-trained.
It should be a more prestigious position.
I think we put cops in the same category that we put teachers sometimes.
We need them.
We know we need them.
But we don't really care and support them.
And we only look at them when they do terrible things.
chris distefano
Yeah, I think, too, I think it's in Germany.
They have to go through two years of schooling and training to become a police officer.
I think with NYPD, I think it's only six months.
joe rogan
Well, Germany went through some shit, I don't know if I know.
chris distefano
Yeah, Germany...
joe rogan
They had a hard time with some bad policing.
chris distefano
Yeah, Germany, they, as the kids say, came out the pocket.
Germany.
Jesus Christ.
They went a little wild for a little...
joe rogan
Could you imagine living in Germany now and, wait a minute, what did we do?
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, how long ago was that?
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
80 years ago?
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
chris distefano
Dude, how about this?
I'm from a place in New York, Ridgewood, Queens, right?
It's like Queens, Brooklyn, but Ridgewood, right?
Big time German neighborhood.
When I grew up, like my mom's German, you know, hardcore German.
When I grew up, it was the Germans were like fading away, but still somewhat there.
There was a German man who lived across the street from me, like 98-year-old guy.
So, 1937. 1937 or 38?
The Nazis sold out Madison Square Garden.
joe rogan
Yes, I've seen that.
chris distefano
The rally, right?
The bakery that's still there in my neighborhood was the one that catered it for the Nazis.
Because this is pre-Holocaust.
joe rogan
Right, no one knew what the Nazis were going to be.
chris distefano
This is just a political party.
joe rogan
Right.
chris distefano
So then, when I asked...
joe rogan
Look at that.
chris distefano
Yeah, the bakery in my neighborhood...
joe rogan
What did they stand for then?
Did what they stand for alter over time?
Like, were the Nazis always...
Anti-Jew and about the Aryan race, or did that become that?
chris distefano
No, it became that.
It was just pro-Germany.
Germany was ravaged, World War I, high inflation, so all Hitler and the Nazi party did was say, we're going back pro-German, everything's coming through Germany, jobs coming through Germany, Germany, Germany, Germany.
So people looked at that and saw patriotism and nationalism in the United States and said, I fuck with that, I support that.
unidentified
Oh.
chris distefano
The Holocaust and all that came very quickly a couple of years later, but that was not the message back then.
joe rogan
That's why people are so scared of nationalism.
That's why people are so scared of powerful, charismatic leaders.
That's a piece of history that's repeated over and over and over again.
I mean, how many times in history has genocide been committed?
chris distefano
If you told a 1935 German that, hey, in six years, you're going to be gassing and exterminating fellow German citizens that are Jewish, they would say, not possible.
That's not going to happen.
But then it did.
Just like the same.
If you told someone in 1855, hey, six years from now, you're going to be a civil war.
Brothers are going to be killed.
They would say, no, no, that's not going to happen.
And then boom, it happens.
joe rogan
Look at this.
chris distefano
Yep.
joe rogan
Madison Square Garden, pro-American rally.
chris distefano
Yep.
And let me tell you something.
joe rogan
So the Nazi was a pro-American rally?
chris distefano
Pro-American rally, catered by the bakery in my neighborhood.
So I know one thing for sure at this rally, they had excellent Linzer tarts.
The Linzer tarts in that bakery, I mean, unbelievable.
Yeah, look at that.
I mean, yeah, so that's the thing is like, you know, and I get it like today's society like the kids, you know They'll just get a five-second clip on tik-tok and think they know the history of the world.
They're not reading the books They're not doing the research, you know, I watch this stuff and it's it's it's you know, no excuse for what the Germans did It was horrifying.
joe rogan
Why are they beating this guy up?
What's going on?
He rushed the stage?
chris distefano
Yeah, he rushed.
unidentified
Yeah, he rushed the stage that said, you know, climate change is real So there's always been, like, Antifa characters.
chris distefano
There's always been protesters.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, like, radical ones like this that rush the stage.
chris distefano
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, that's the thing, too.
When you start to get into history, you realize, like, everything happens.
It's just different characters.
You know, it's different reasons why, but it's the same mindset, the same personalities.
joe rogan
Interesting, look how thin everyone is.
chris distefano
Yeah, yeah, there's my grandfather dancing in the back.
unidentified
I think those are kids.
chris distefano
No, those are kids, yeah.
joe rogan
They are kids, but look how thin the kids are.
If you had a group of kids like that today, what are the odds they're gonna be thin?
chris distefano
I know.
joe rogan
Kids look so healthy back then.
Like, look, all the people.
If you look at all the people, like, none of them are obese.
chris distefano
No, none of them are obese.
joe rogan
Which is, look at that, the guy has no pants on.
chris distefano
No, yeah, he's just fully butt naked.
joe rogan
They're screaming, ah!
Well, probably mentally ill, too.
chris distefano
And you see they had George Washington in the back.
That was the background, because they were honoring...
The Germans and the Americans at that time believed, oh, you know...
Dude, I read a book called The Nazi Symbiosis that kind of said that...
The president, you know, Winston Churchill and FDR knew about the Holocaust stuff happening.
They knew about it.
You know, they had their intelligence, right?
Secret Service, whatever.
And they knew about it.
But the Holocaust in initial stages, horrific, can't state that enough, but was yielding...
I don't know the exact ones, but there were different types of medications that we use today that came out of the Holocaust, different types of lab results, because they were just using them as guinea pigs, human beings.
So it was yielding results, and so they were allowing it to happen.
It wasn't until Hitler Crossed the line.
I mean, he crossed the line from the beginning, but went, stopped yielding results and just started gassing everybody.
Did Churchill and everybody say, okay, now we got to go in.
So nobody's innocent.
You know what I mean?
Nobody's innocent in the war.
You know, like I just did a whole, I do a segment on, I do a YouTube thing called Christories, where I do a history thing, and I just did the rape of Nan King.
joe rogan
Oh my God, I do know about that.
chris distefano
So I was getting so much shit on the internet from Japanese people saying that what I am spewing is disinformation.
And I'm like, there's pictures in video—there's pictures of Japanese soldiers bayonetting Chinese babies in front of their family.
So I'm not—it's not disinformation.
It's just you have to accept history as it is.
Like— Every group, whoever has power, will act in a certain way that's not right.
It's a human thing.
Most groups do that.
And it's not just one thing.
I feel like we live in a society now where it's like only one group of people were the bad guys throughout history.
It's like, no, no, no, no.
Everybody's been a bad guy at some point.
It's just who had power when.
joe rogan
Well, I think we're just aware of human nature now in a different way.
If you look at the work of guys like Steven Pinker that talk about crime in history, and if you look at the trend, everything is going to a less violent, safer place to live with less crime.
I agree.
Our history is so filled with it.
It's so filled with horrific actions in war.
If you just go from the moment people started writing things down, they're writing down the history of war.
They're writing down the history of conquest.
They're writing down the history of raids.
They're writing down...
It's like baked into people.
And if you give people, especially back then with no internet, right?
No way for other people to find out.
No way.
Unless the newspapers are reporting on it.
Unless you have boots on the ground.
You have photographs.
You have to have video.
It's so hard for the truth to get out.
So they could do whatever the fuck they wanted if they had the guns.
And people have...
It's almost like...
If you put us in that scenario, you put us in the scenario of war, it's like a program that just gets activated in our minds, and we can murder other people very easily.
There's programs that, like, one of the things you find out when you hunt The first time I ever went hunting, I shot this deer and I was like, oh, wow.
You took a life.
This is like a program in the brain that we're going to eat this now.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
That you go after something and when you're successful, it's like it recognizes that there's this area of your mind that has always existed.
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's an area of your mind that's always existed.
It just hasn't been activated by action.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
And then once it hits there, it's like, oh, there's a historical precedent for this mindset.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
There's a historical precedent for this vibe.
This is the hunter-gatherer vibe.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you're like, wow, people get it when they catch a fish.
When you catch a fish, there's this feeling like, whoa, it's this exciting feeling.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's like you're tapping into some human reward mechanisms that have always existed.
chris distefano
Interesting.
Yeah, see, I've never went hunting and I've never done anything like that, but I wonder if I should.
Because I've got one spin on this planet.
I want to experience it all.
I've never done a drug in my life.
joe rogan
I don't think you should go to war, because we were talking about that originally.
Don't tap into that one.
chris distefano
That I can't do because I have a neck issue.
But I start to think about, you know, I want to do the ayahuasca.
I want to do things safely.
Would you ever think about microdosing heroin?
joe rogan
I think you would have to do it with someone like Dr. Carl Hart, who actually knows what's real and what's not.
You'd have to test it.
And you have to be really wary about the idea that you could possibly get addicted to it.
I don't know why people get hooked on pain pills, but I can't imagine that I'm above that.
I can't imagine that if I didn't get hurt and I started taking those things that they wouldn't get me.
They get so many people.
I have so many friends that have had problems trying to get off those things after they have had surgery, been injured.
I would worry.
I would worry about that.
I would worry.
I'd like it, too.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
I'd worry.
I'd like it.
Because it doesn't seem like it sucks.
chris distefano
Well, I think about that with, yeah, I've never been addicted to pain pills or drugs, but I have been addicted to Nutella.
I've been addicted to pizza.
No, but I love the...
joe rogan
Right.
Because if you told me...
chris distefano
If you told me, Chris, you can never have Nutella or pizza again because it's going to cost you your family, I'd be like, I don't know if I can do it.
I'm going to get mad.
Well, I think painkillers and drugs is like that for certain people.
So whatever you're addicted to, even if it's positive, their brain chemistry is attached to it in the same way that you need to eat elk or whatever it may be.
joe rogan
Well, I think we're We're talking on a spectrum here because the Nutella spectrum is like the smallest measurement versus the heroin where you have bone aches and you're fucking shaking like a leaf and sweating because you need to get your fix.
Somewhere in the middle of that.
chris distefano
But I think the addict, you know, is like, I think it's just like, because we're just all different chemistry, right?
Isn't it wild?
Like, I don't, your brain sees, might even see the color red different than I see it.
It's fucking nuts!
unidentified
It's nuts.
chris distefano
You are having a totally different experience than me.
joe rogan
Right.
You clearly see that when you see what people are really interested in.
People that watch darts all day.
There's things that people love that I just don't understand why you're interested in that at all.
But that's okay.
There's music that I'm not interested in.
And I used to think it sucked.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
But now I realize, no, it doesn't suck.
It's just like, it's not what I like.
And me thinking that it sucks, unless it actually does suck.
Unless, there's some things that just suck.
chris distefano
Do you like the band The 1975?
Have you ever heard of them?
joe rogan
No, I haven't, but I have to pee so bad.
Unfortunately, I've been drinking a lot of water lately, and I've barely made it an hour in this one, right?
unidentified
Alright.
joe rogan
One hour?
chris distefano
So we should go pee?
joe rogan
I'll piss and we'll come back.
chris distefano
Alright.
joe rogan
I wear this fanny pack so often, people think it's a joke.
They think I'm joking.
I'm like, no, I literally forgot I had it on.
I was like, where's my fanny pack?
Did I leave it in my truck?
I'm like, oh, it's right there.
chris distefano
And you just like it better than pockets of fanny packs?
joe rogan
Yeah, you just unzip it, you zip it up, nothing falls out of it.
chris distefano
So I'm hosting a show, comes out March 7th on Vice, about 70s, 80s, and 90s, and we do a whole thing about fanny packs, because they were huge in the 80s and 90s.
Like retro stuff, and I'm happy that they're coming back.
joe rogan
I never let it go, bitch.
chris distefano
I like that.
joe rogan
There's photos of me in the 2000s, early 2000s wearing fanny packs.
chris distefano
Fanny pack.
joe rogan
Fuck you.
This is like super convenient.
chris distefano
Just Joey fanny packs.
joe rogan
The idea that like, oh, it looks stupid.
Okay, then I look stupid.
I don't care.
chris distefano
I like it.
joe rogan
Why am I caring?
What kind of a bitch cares that he looks stupid because there's a thing that he likes that other people think looks dumb?
I don't give a fuck.
chris distefano
Well, that's what I was...
I brought up, you know, the 1975. They're my favorite band.
Like, okay, here's what happened.
This band, a lot of girls like them and gay guys.
joe rogan
Okay.
chris distefano
But I love them.
I love this band.
It's the only time music has helped.
I was going through a bad breakup, and the 1975 helped me through this breakup.
And ever since then, I've just listened to them.
They've spoke to me.
I love the 1975 like you cannot believe.
joe rogan
Is there a song you recommend that we should try?
chris distefano
Chocolate.
I love Chocolate.
I love their song Sex.
I love Paris.
I love Tonight I Wish I Was Your Boy.
joe rogan
Let's go with Chocolate because it's an ongoing theme.
chris distefano
Chocolate is the big one.
Oh, because it's on Spotify.
So you can just play music here.
joe rogan
Allegedly.
chris distefano
No big deal.
We'll see what happens.
What do you think of this?
You've heard this before.
joe rogan
I have?
I don't know if I've heard this before.
chris distefano
Let it hit.
Jamie, you've heard the 1975, right?
Jamie knows.
What do you think?
The song's about weed.
Chocolate is weed.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
chris distefano
Cool haircut.
That's Matty Healy, the lead singer.
joe rogan
Handsome looking fellow.
chris distefano
Good looking kid.
He kisses boys on stage, but he's not yet.
joe rogan
Good for him.
unidentified
Seriously.
chris distefano
Not for everybody, but I love it.
unidentified
I like it.
chris distefano
on a Mark Terry Pelt.
unidentified
Oh, whatever.
chris distefano
We're never gonna quit it now.
So this song specifically took me from a dark place.
joe rogan
You were in a dark place.
chris distefano
A genuinely, Joe, like I mean genuinely, like very, very, very, one of the toughest places I've been in my life.
That song specifically, I have no idea, no rhyme or reason why.
I just heard it and I said this genuinely makes me feel better and I got hooked.
I got hooked on the band and I got...
I love this band.
They're the only band that I've ever paid money to see.
I saw them at MSG. I was so excited.
I went with my girlfriend, Jasmine, and she was like, you're like the only guy here.
I was like, I don't give a shit.
I fucking love this band.
This is how much I love this band.
I found out that the lead singer saw...
The only comedy bit I've had that went viral is my Chris DiStefano 9-11 story.
He saw it.
He said, not for me.
His comedy's not for me.
Don't give a shit at all.
Don't give a shit at all.
Even though I know the lead string of the band doesn't think I'm funny at all, I'm like, I still fuck with this band.
Good for you.
And my friends make fun of me all the time.
I'm like, you know what?
I don't give a shit.
That band, the 1975, makes me happier than any other piece of music I've ever listened to in my life.
And I'm not afraid to say it.
And you know what?
Maybe I am gay.
Maybe I am.
joe rogan
Let that sit there for a little bit.
There was a lot.
There was a lot that happened there.
chris distefano
Maybe I am.
joe rogan
You decided through that music that you needed a reason to pull yourself out of the dark, and that music was like the catalyst, right?
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you were looking for something.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
It could have been Barbra Streisand.
chris distefano
It could have been anybody.
joe rogan
It could have been the way we were.
chris distefano
Two musicians have changed my life, have made me go from the dark to the light.
It is the 1975, and it is Whitney Houston.
Those are the two.
joe rogan
Whitney Houston's a wild story, man.
chris distefano
Did you ever see the documentary about her?
Did you see that?
joe rogan
Didn't Joey Diaz used to sell her coke?
Yeah, he's got a fun story.
Ricky Martin.
chris distefano
Joey Diaz is a man I need to meet.
You've never met Joey Diaz?
I've never once in my life met Joey Diaz.
I know he lives in Jersey now.
My friend Brian Morton, good friends with Joey Diaz, I just want to go take Joey to lunch.
I'm not looking to do content.
I just want to get to meet Joey Diaz.
joe rogan
We'll talk afterwards.
Joey's gonna be coming out here when the club's opening up soon, and when Joey comes out here, we'll have him come out here too.
The two of you guys together.
chris distefano
Because when I listen to him, I'm like, that sounds like my dad's friends.
That is my father and his friends sitting around a barbecue, telling stories.
They all love Joey Diaz.
joe rogan
He's the best.
It's an original human being.
chris distefano
By the way, Whitney Houston, I think personally, one of the most beautiful women of all time.
To me, the most beautiful women of all time, Whitney Houston, Gwen Stefani, and I'm not trying to be funny, a young Barbara Walters.
joe rogan
That's a good list.
chris distefano
Yep.
joe rogan
If you're into Barbara Walters.
chris distefano
I like that.
joe rogan
But she, yeah, she was stunningly beautiful.
But what's crazy is that, like, drugs took her down.
Like someone that talented.
That talented.
chris distefano
Isn't it eerie, too?
She died drowning death in the bathtub, then her daughter dies drowning death in the bathtub.
Isn't that eerie?
joe rogan
It's horrible.
chris distefano
But the documentary actually says that Whitney Houston was sexually molested by her aunt as a child, which you don't ever really hear.
A female child being molested by another female child, and it was Dionne Warwick's sister, was her aunt who molested her, and that they believe Whitney Houston has struggled with her drug abuses because she was a lesbian.
But then the scientists say, well, was she a lesbian or was she molested at a young age by a woman and then, you know, warped her sexual kind of part of her brain, and now she thinks she is, but she's not.
Very interesting.
But I personally think that the best voice of all time, and the 1975 I saw in an interview once, said that they were inspired by Whitney Houston.
I said, this is my fucking band, dude.
This is my band.
And then even meet and greets.
I would do meet and greets after shows, and I would just feel, I couldn't articulate it, but I would feel disgusting.
I would feel like I'm doing these meet and greets and I'm stealing these people's money and I hate the way I feel in my skin doing these meet and greets and I've agreed to them and I hate them and I was counting down the shows to when they were gone because I said I'm giving you my performance.
I'm proud of my comedy but to make you You know, charge you $25, take a picture with me.
I feel disgusting.
I would take the picture with you for free, but it was something that I wanted to try out, and I regretted it.
And then I saw an interview from Matty Healy of the 1975 talk about meet and greets, and I felt like he was talking directly to me.
He said, and he articulated what I was feeling.
He said, Here's the thing.
If you're an artist and you're doing meet and greets, right?
Whatever you want to do is fine.
But here's what it actually is.
He said, instead of going through a third party or ticket master for the add-on fee of the meet and greet, why don't you take the picture with the fan after the show and then ask them to give you $25 cash and see how that makes you feel because that is exactly what you're doing.
And I was like, bro...
You just said what I felt.
And I stopped the meet and greets immediately.
And I have profoundly less money and I do have to pay the loan back on this watch, but I do feel better as a person.
joe rogan
Yeah, I never did those.
chris distefano
You never did meet and greets?
joe rogan
I used to do meet and greets for free.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would hang around and take pictures of people.
I would do it at the Chicago theater where it was hours long lines.
I'd take photos with everybody.
chris distefano
I did it.
joe rogan
But it was a different thing.
It was free.
I would never do that.
I get that people see it as an extra source of revenue, and I get that they see it as something that people are willing to pay because they want to meet you and they want to take a photo with you.
I get it all.
And I'm not judging anyone.
It's just it made me feel weird.
chris distefano
No, it's one of the most shameful parts of my career so far.
I didn't know any...
It's okay.
joe rogan
But now you know.
chris distefano
I got out of it quick, and I hated myself for it.
joe rogan
People talk you into it, too.
They'll talk you into it.
They'll talk you into it because it's money for them.
It's one of those things.
There's an industry around it, and I'm not judging anybody who does it.
chris distefano
No, me either.
Me either.
joe rogan
I can't think about stuff like that.
chris distefano
But I felt like now, you know, I feel like doing the show, having, you know, the fan, I believe I give them the best show I can, so that's hopefully worth the money for them.
But not doing the me and greed, even though it's less money, I don't care.
I'm so much happier.
I've made a decision because I don't want to miss time in my daughter's lives.
I just don't.
I got my kids.
I'm my stepson.
I just don't want to be away from them.
And I understand, well, that's going to come with...
Sacrifice and you may not ever be the best comedian of all time or do arenas.
All that's fine.
To me, not missing their jujitsu and getting to do homework with them is worth it for me at this point in my life.
And so I'm okay with it.
joe rogan
I just think worry about being the best you can on stage when you're up there.
chris distefano
That's what I do.
joe rogan
You don't have to go out as much as some people do.
They get crazy.
And one of the beautiful things about living in New York City or one of the beautiful things about being in LA is you can always get on stage.
chris distefano
Always.
Every night.
joe rogan
It's like there's a thing that some guys do where they, you know, you'll go on tour for like a month.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and I get it.
It's a lot of money and a lot of my friends do it.
chris distefano
Yep.
joe rogan
And it's great because it's like you just get it over with, you go crazy, and then you can relax and you made a ton of money.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you also saw fans all over the world.
Yeah.
I can't do it.
I do weekends.
I go out on the weekends and weekdays I work out in town.
I've always done it in LA. I would go a couple weekends a month.
chris distefano
So as successful as you've been, you feel like you were still there almost at every good moment for your kid.
You didn't miss as much.
joe rogan
I didn't miss nearly as much as I would have missed if I was doing the road all the time I go out of my way to do Little things that my kids do events and hang with them and we have family time right?
We try to watch movies together and do stuff together and play together like you gotta like have fun together and I think if you're if you're gone for like long stretches I don't like being gone for three days.
Three days fucks with my feelings.
Three days makes me uncomfortable.
I love going on vacations.
Vacations are some of my favorite times because then we're with each other 24-7.
chris distefano
It's beautiful.
joe rogan
And we get to fuck around and go swimming and do cool shit and go fishing and have fun.
You know, it's like you don't realize how quick it goes by, man.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
It goes by so fast.
chris distefano
Because I had Louis C.K. on my Chrissy Chaos podcast.
I know you've had him a bunch of times.
I know you guys are friends.
I was talking to Louis...
And I was talking about how my daughters and my stepson are young right now.
You know, we've got 12, 7, and 1. They're kids.
So I said, I don't want to go on the road so much right now because I want to be with them.
And even though it's costing me money and my agent will be like, you got to add shows here.
I'm like, no, I want to go home with my family.
I want to be with my family.
I know it's going to cost me money, but not everything in my life is money.
I want to spend time with my kids.
And so I said, but I figure, you know, when they get older, you know, and they're going to not want to hang out with me, right?
So I said, that's when I'll, God willing, go on the world tour or whatever.
And he said, you have that all wrong, man.
And I was like, what do you mean?
He said, take it from me.
Louie's saying this.
He's like, you know, I have daughters who are older, in their 20s.
He said, what happens is, is when they get older...
Yes, they want to go out and be with their friends and do that and they don't need dad or mom as much as they did when they were your children's age.
He said, but your time with them is actually so much more precious because they have less time to give you.
So if you're on the world tour and they only had that hour a week to give you and you weren't home for it, Well, now you've missed the opportunity for that hour with your kids because they were willing to give you a time, but you weren't there.
So he said, so the way you're thinking now, believe it or not, even if this means you won't get to the world-famous arena tour...
He was like, you're doing the right thing.
He said, Louie said, he was like, you know, I was on stage at the TD, Louie was on stage at the TD Garden, you know, he's like doing this arena tour and amazing and all that.
And he was like, I could tell you, I just want to, you should only go around that arena tour, go around that top shelf one time.
He was like, because you realize that you can't live up there.
You got to hit a cruising altitude.
He was like, you got to be Chrissy Cruising Altitude.
You got to think, where am I going to live for the majority of my career?
And he was like, that's where you want to be.
Go up there.
If you get an opportunity, go up there.
Taste the air.
There's not a lot of oxygen up there.
Use the Mount Everest example.
You don't have a lot of oxygen at the top.
You can't stay up there for long.
But he said, if you get there, take the opportunity.
But do it once.
And then cruising altitude and have time with your family.
He was like, you know, there's so many moments in my daughter's lives where I was making all this money and doing this, but I miss this or I miss that.
And, you know, you have it in your mind right now.
Like, I'm not going to miss things in my kids' lives.
But it is hard because I'm like, man, I could, you know, be adding shows and making more money and be more successful.
But I'm like...
But I want to be in my kid's jujitsu.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You also don't want to lose your mind.
A lot of guys lose their minds.
They go too hard.
They're out too long.
They're gone too much.
chris distefano
Well, how do you feel?
It's got to be pressure to be where you are.
I mean, it would be amazing to get to a level like you, but you can do whatever you want to do.
Wherever you go, you can sell as many tickets as humanly possible and all that, and you have all the opportunity in the world, but do you ever feel like you wake up and you're like, damn, I don't want to be this Joe Rogan.
Do you ever feel that way?
joe rogan
Well, there's nothing you can do about that.
chris distefano
Right, you just became who you became.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think about what I can control specifically.
I concentrate on not doing that.
Then I just concentrate on what I can control.
chris distefano
And when your time with your family, you just say, I'm going to be with them when I'm with them, and I'm going to give them 100%, and then when I go on the road, it's for them kind of thing.
Do you think like that?
joe rogan
No.
When I'm going on the road, I'm doing it because that's what I do for a living.
I mean, obviously, it benefits everybody.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
But it's like, this is what I do.
This is what I do.
And if I can bring them with me, that's great too.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
You know, and they can find fun stuff to do if I'm on Saturday in the evening when I'm doing my show.
I don't want my fucking kids to see my horrible act.
chris distefano
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But other than that, man, it's like doing fun stuff together.
It's like you bomb these important memories.
When you get that iPhone photos of like...
All the different fun times you've had together and it plays it with music for you.
It's not even just the ones on photos.
They just spark up the ones in your brain.
It's not for everybody.
I'm not one of those dads that's like, everybody should be a dad.
But it was profoundly good to me.
The whole process, it changes how you are as a human.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
Raising children and seeing them become adults and seeing them become these fascinating human beings.
It's wild.
chris distefano
Well, that's what strikes me about you is because obviously, you know, it's public, you know, financially very well and so successful, but it doesn't feel like you're motivated by money.
It feels like I'd be like, I bet you, not that I know anything, but I bet you Joe Rogan, if you spoke to Rogan's kids, they think he's a great dad.
Because I'm like, oh, he's there.
So I'm like, how do I get...
You know, the financial success and also be there at the same time.
But I'm hearing from you, maybe it's just, you know.
joe rogan
Well, you know, I would be a liar if I said that it happened instantaneously.
unidentified
Oh, thank you, sir.
chris distefano
You have to learn.
joe rogan
No, it's a learning process.
And I think once you have enough money, you have to realize that you have enough money.
And I think a lot of people don't.
I think a lot of people, once they get a ton of money, they want more and more and more.
Like, you know, Jeff Bezos doesn't But I think quality of life is the most important thing.
And I think if you're really thinking about the numbers more than you think about the other stuff, you're taking away bandwidth that your mind utilizes to get better at stuff.
You're taking bandwidth that could be for hanging out with my wife or hanging out with my friends.
I want to just be in the...
It's so corny to say, but I want to be in the moment.
I want to try to be in the moment as much as possible.
So the things that I have to think about the least...
Or if you're making good money and you're doing well, you don't have to think about that anymore.
So stop thinking about it.
Just concentrate on the things that got you there and trust this process.
Just do the best you can at podcasts.
Do the best you can at comedy.
Do the best you can at the things you concentrate on.
Do the best you can.
That's all you can do.
But that's the only thing that really achieves any real measurable success.
If you're concentrating on wanting it to be this or wanting it to be that, it's like I just don't think that's positive energy.
I don't think that's like well-used energy.
I think your energy should be spent doing the things you do.
That's why I could do so many different things because all the things that I do I enjoy doing.
There's no faking.
chris distefano
Yeah.
It's not like you're not counting down the minutes.
You'll do a three, four hour podcast four days a week because you genuinely love doing this.
joe rogan
Yes.
And it's the same for the UFC. I'm so looking forward to the UFC this weekend.
I'm just going to get to hang out with Daniel Cormier and John Anik.
There's six hours of fights.
I fucking love it, man.
chris distefano
It's not lost on you what your life's become.
joe rogan
Yes, it's not at all.
chris distefano
Which is beautiful.
joe rogan
I am very, very, very, very, very thankful.
And the way that I show my thanks is by, like, I think about it all the time, but also I work.
chris distefano
But have you evolved to this?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
chris distefano
Or you've always been this?
joe rogan
No, no, no, for sure.
Yeah, I've definitely evolved.
And, you know, having a family and having a bunch of people counting on you, it also gives you some extra motivation, extra discipline.
It definitely does.
But at a certain point in time, that doesn't become the motivation anymore when you're okay.
So then the motivation becomes just do your best at whatever you're doing.
That's my motivation.
My motivation is 100% just try to do my best at whether it's hosting a podcast, or whether it's doing stand-up, or whether it's doing commentary, or just being a friend, or being a husband, or being a father, or just being a good neighbor.
I just try to do my best.
And I'm not always great at it.
I stumble at every single thing in that group, whether it's comedy, or UFC, or whatever the fuck it is.
It's complicated.
Life is complicated, but I'm always just trying to do my best.
chris distefano
Well, I think that's, you know, what you said before is being in the present.
I feel like, you know, you listen to Sadhguru, you listen to Marcus Aurelius, you listen to anybody.
What they're all doing is just giving you different examples to just stay in the present.
That just feels like the Dalai Lama.
All they're ever saying is, if you're in the present, You're good.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you can do that, you'll probably be better off.
And it's not that easy to do.
chris distefano
No, it's very difficult.
joe rogan
It's pretty complicated because the things that we've talked about today, like the anxiety and the fact that I think a really positive move for you is getting off social media.
I recommend that to so many people.
And it's not that there's bad people that you interact with.
It's just people interact in a bad way in these things.
I would have done it too.
I'm not a hypocrite.
If I was 15, 16 years old and I had a Twitter account, oh my god, the mean shit that I would say to Chris DiStefano or to me or to fucking Bobby Lee or anybody.
It's natural.
chris distefano
You know what I've noticed too with getting off social media just from now being at a pretty significant time, seven months, is what I've learned is one of my favorite quotes from Teddy Roosevelt is, comparison is the thief of joy.
Yes, that's a great quote.
Great one.
joe rogan
I love that.
chris distefano
And what I realized is with being off social media, you know, I think the reason why I've been able to stick to this diet plan, exercise plan, and keep, you know, myself relatively healthy is because I'm not on social media scrolling, comparing myself to, you know, somebody who's jacked and ripped, you know, somebody who's going above and beyond.
And then what happens is subconsciously I would be We're good to go.
It's comparing myself to me.
I would compare myself to me all the time and that would make me depressed.
I would look at myself from six months ago, some perfectly crafted picture that I forgot about and say, you look good back then, Chris.
What the fuck were you doing then?
And then you look at yourself in the mirror now and you say, I don't like this, Chris.
Because you're comparing yourself to an unrealistic version of you, a perfectly crafted version of you.
And I didn't realize that.
And then the other big thing...
People talk a lot about the negative comments that we see as, you know, whatever, on social media.
It was the positive comments that were throwing off my mental state, too.
The positive comments were also putting me into an overdrive that was not helping me at all.
So now, I don't see anybody.
The only person I ever see that says anything positively or negative to me exists in the real realm, exists in the physical realm.
unidentified
Yes.
chris distefano
Not in the social media realm.
And that has profoundly changed my brain chemistry.
Dude, me and my girl Jasmine, you know, we were having some rough times the last time I came in here.
We were thinking maybe we were going to go back to co-parenting or whatever.
We are as close as we've ever been in the last eight years.
Because now, I would also didn't even realize.
Like, I would see, you know...
Innocently, subconsciously, a woman on social media that was a, you know, a fitness instructor and a medical doctor.
And I would be like, start to subconsciously think, well, wouldn't my life be easier with her?
Wouldn't it be?
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then it would cause a fight subconsciously with Jasmine.
And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then I got off of that.
I didn't see anything at all, ever, except what I noticed was how beautiful a person Jasmine was, how lucky I was to have Jasmine.
That's what I noticed, being off social media, because I blocked everything else out.
And I said, what I have, my whole dream, everything I've dreamt of in life, to have a beautiful woman, a beautiful partner, a beautiful mother of my children is right here.
She's not on Instagram.
In fucking Sweden.
She's right here.
And then I just noticed all those things that my subconscious would cloud my mind with from the social media feed and the algorithm were gone.
And I was like, I see her for as beautifully perfect and imperfect she is as me.
And that's what I saw.
And I'm gay.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
What social media is doing to people is really profound.
Because that kind of honesty that you just expressed, that's very hard for people to recognize in themselves sometimes.
But I guarantee that's going on all over the world.
It's influence.
It does a thing to the mind that confuses the mind with real life.
And it does it in this weird way.
And now it's doing it with like filters.
Have you seen these new filters on TikTok?
chris distefano
Oh my god, yeah.
It's horrifying.
joe rogan
Somebody sent me...
Oh, Bridget Phetasy sent me.
chris distefano
Love Bridget Phetasy.
joe rogan
I love her to death.
It was her or...
It might have been Megan Murphy.
One of them sent this thing.
There's a new TikTok filter.
And it puts makeup on women.
So you can be completely unmade up.
And it'll be perfect makeup.
And it used to be.
Like, if you had the filter on and you moved your hand in front of your mouth, that the lips would go over your hand.
It would be cartoonish, hilarious, because it's so obvious that they're using these filters.
Now it doesn't happen anymore.
Now everything's seamless, and the AI is better, or the computer algorithm, or whatever it is that's doing this is better.
And if you see it, it's wild.
Do you know where it is?
I can send it to you.
unidentified
I got it.
joe rogan
You got it?
This woman is doing this and it's so crazy.
Like look at this.
Play it a little bit so we can hear it.
unidentified
You used to do that with an old filter and you would see the lashes on your hand like it would glitch.
But look how perfect.
I'm wearing no makeup right now.
This is all a filter.
And it's just scary because there's a lot of girls out there that don't realise when someone's got a filter on and they're chasing perfection because that's what they think everybody looks like and this is not what people look like.
So this is very scary.
joe rogan
I think that lady, what she just showed is the future.
You're not going to be able to tell at all.
I mean, face swaps are going to be indistinguishable.
Deep fakes, indistinguishable.
They've already done podcasts with me and Steve Jobs.
I know.
I saw that.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just they put it into a computer and the computer will say anything you want it to.
chris distefano
It sounded as real as can be.
joe rogan
And now you can have his face moving to those words.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can have my face moving to those words.
Is this a lady doing this as well?
chris distefano
Again?
joe rogan
So that's what she really looks like.
So she did both, which is good of her.
Because that's what I was curious.
What is the difference?
But that's a difference it could be.
They could do that with makeup.
chris distefano
But as a parent, is it just staying in the present and saying, I hope my children don't fall victim to this?
How do you reconcile that?
joe rogan
They're in a new world.
There's two schools of thought.
There's a school of thought that you should keep your children away from social media, and there's a school of thought that everyone has social media.
Everyone has social media.
You have it, the kids have it.
Maybe let them have experience in it, and maybe they're going to be okay.
We always want to think that while these kids have this new rock and roll music, It's going to ruin childhood!
And then we thought that in the 60s with drugs, and we thought that throughout with disco, people always think kids are going to ruin their fucking lives.
This is the most profound change that human beings have ever experienced in terms of their access to information, the way they get educated, the way they're experiencing different things that are happening all over the world all at once.
It's a profound shift in human consciousness, and these kids are going to be so much more advanced than us in terms of their ability to understand things.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
It's a different road, but it's a different road like the road between people that invented agriculture and the road with people at hunter-gatherer tribes worrying about invading ones.
chris distefano
Got it.
joe rogan
Like, it's new roads, and this is the new road.
The new road is...
Internet communication.
The new road is social media.
The new road is interconnectedness.
This bizarre interconnectedness that humans have to navigate now.
chris distefano
But so what you're saying is the interconnectedness we're experiencing now at this level is the same level that somebody in the 1600s was experiencing interconnectedness because for the first time they left their village and got on a road and went to another village.
joe rogan
Or the printing press.
Yeah, I mean there's been a bunch of these things that have happened and probably Look, I mean, my view of history is shaped by the work of Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and John Anthony West and all these people that have examined these ancient cultures.
And I have a real strong feeling that they're right and that there's a lot of evidence to support it about this Younger Drys impact theory and that human civilization like, you know, Egypt and the pyramids and before that had achieved this incredible level of sophistication in a way that we don't understand.
I think we're relearning how to navigate life.
That's what I think is happening right now.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
And I think it comes in these big waves.
And I think it's one of the reasons why these waves...
It's like we...
When technology is...
The place it's at now, where you have like ChatGPT that's writing, like you could write a whole Chris DiStefano set.
You could write a set, like talk about your mom, talk about the fucking homeless guy that beat a guy up when you gave him ice cream.
They could write a whole routine for you.
We're in a weird time.
chris distefano
I know.
joe rogan
You can't just deny that it exists and protect your children from it.
I think you have to communicate with your children, but I think your children also exist in this new world.
And I think we can't...
It's a difficult one to navigate, and I think one of the decisions that you've made as you've navigated and you've realized, hey, this is not good for me.
Like, I don't like this, so I'm going to get off of that.
A lot of people make similar decisions when they stop drinking or when they stop gambling.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They go, you know what?
This is not good for me.
I gotta get off of that.
But I feel like you have to let people make those decisions for themselves and you have to give them the ability to say confidently that some people have navigated this water.
Some people figure out how to use it.
Some people don't get involved in disputes online and they don't get involved in all the negative aspects of it and reading all the positive stuff too, which can also fuck with your head.
chris distefano
Yeah, because it throws your equilibrium off.
My father was a gambling addict, went through Gamblers Anonymous and has come out on the other side.
Great.
But I went through a very tough point in my life where me and Jasmine, my girlfriend, mother, my children, we broke up.
We were co-parenting.
She was dating someone else.
It was all very hard for me.
And I was like living this life where I was like maybe it's better this way and I'll go out and date all these women and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And my father one day, you know, we're hanging out.
I didn't even think I was doing anything wrong.
And he sees me and he's like, you know, could see I'm a little like disheveled and no drugs, no alcohol.
I'm not like that.
And he was like, you've got an addiction problem, Chris.
I said, what are you talking about?
He goes, I was a gambling addict.
You look like you've been gambling all night, but I think what you've been doing is chasing women all night.
I think you've been either having sex with girls or you've been messaging women and you've been doing that.
He was like, I'm your father.
Am I right?
I said, yeah.
I've been talking to a couple of girls, but whatever.
I'm single.
She's with somebody else, I'm single.
He was like, let me tell you something, Chrissy.
He was like, here's what I know about gambling, and here's what I know about life, and here's what I know about what's going to happen to you.
You can beat the house 99 times out of 100. You beat them clean 99 out of 100. The one time the house wins, which is inevitably going to happen, negates the other 99. You're hooking up and you're meeting all these strangers, bringing all these strangers into your life.
99 out of 100, great, no problem, all good.
The one stranger that has it in her head that she needs to ruin your life for whatever reason, has a baby, says you did this, says you did that, is going to negate all the rest.
You need to...
Limit your probability and stop bringing all these women into your life and you need to figure out how to go be with the mother of your children because that is what is the most important thing.
joe rogan
That's fantastic fatherly advice.
If everybody had a father like that...
chris distefano
And he just laid it into me.
joe rogan
That's such a great way of laying it down too.
Such a great way of laying it down.
These patterns that human beings fall into when it comes to addiction, they're so fascinating.
They're so fascinating.
I was never around gamblers until I was in my early 20s.
I was around these guys that would bet on poker.
They would bet on fucking raindrops coming down off a windowsill.
chris distefano
Yeah.
My father was a pretty profound gambler, ruined his marriage with my mother, all that stuff.
And what my father said, he would tell me.
He was like, you know, when I was growing up, a teenager, he was like, do not gamble.
I don't want you to even know what a vig is.
I don't want you to know what a point cover is.
I don't want you to know what a spread is.
I don't want you to know that stuff.
Because he's like, I have it in my brain and I'm terrified I'd pass it to you.
So still to this day, as a 38-year-old guy, with all the DraftKings and all that, I don't even know.
You said, what's the over-under?
It's a foreign language to me because my father was explicit.
He was intentional.
Do not do that.
joe rogan
That's a very wise choice.
chris distefano
And I listen to him, and I don't have that gambling thing.
Now, I do think I had that addict thing in my brain.
joe rogan
I think he had it, too.
I think people have it.
I think it makes them good at things.
That's what I think.
I think it's a dangerous mindset.
It's like a thing in your mind.
And it could lead to something like gambling, or it could lead to something like getting addicted to being the best at guitar.
I think it's real serious.
chris distefano
So what his advice always to me, my whole childhood, he would always say two things.
He said, if you're going to be an addict, make sure you're addicted to something positive.
So I hope believe comedy.
And then the second thing he would say always to me, he said, Chrissy, he would always call me Chrissy.
He would always make me a girl.
And he would say, you'll love life.
You're going to love life when you finally understand that life isn't fair.
When you know life isn't fair, you'll love life.
And I took that, and I feel like I did understand that in my 20s, where like, you know, in the movies, the villain always gets caught.
That's not real life.
So when somebody gets something that you know personally isn't a good person, or the media is saying, you know, this person just keeps rising through the ranks, because I understand life isn't fair, and that was instilled in me.
Through my father, you know, and I think that my dad having this kind of life, like he would always say to me, you know, it's something dark, he would always say to me, he would say, Chris, you know, he would say, what do you want to be in life?
And I would say, you know, as a kid, I want to be a doctor, I want to be an astronaut, you know, I want to be in the NBA, all the things children would say.
He'd say, oh, that's great.
He said, here's what I want you to be in life.
I want you to be the exact opposite of me.
I want you to not be me and then you'll be okay.
So you see what dad does?
You see how dad lives?
Be the opposite of me and you'll be A-okay.
That's what I want you to strive for.
And as a kid I would laugh at that, whatever, but now I see, because he was like, I gambled, I lost your mother, I lost all these things in my life and I don't want you to have that.
And even with this Radio City stuff, because it's almost like emotional, Radio City, for a New York guy and sold all these tickets so quick.
joe rogan
Wearing sunglasses.
chris distefano
Yeah, wearing sunglasses.
I got the watch on.
I fucking hide in my homosexuality.
It's all these things.
And then my agent now, recently, a couple of days ago, was like, oh, maybe we'll put a second show on sale.
Maybe we'll do the Hulu Theater.
Maybe we'll do a second at Radio City.
You're selling quick, baby.
And I'm like, okay.
And then I'm talking to my dad.
And I'm like, oh, the agent said maybe we'll put a second show on sale.
He said, why do you want to do that?
I was like, you know, he said it's selling quick.
And I was like, and he was like, yeah, but the goal was one.
The goal was you sold out one, right?
And the goal was you're going to spend time with your family, me as your father, your daughters.
We'll be done by 9 o'clock.
We'll go have dinner.
It'll be beautiful.
It'll just be on Celebrating Radio City.
He was like, why do you want to add more pressure to yourself?
I was like, oh, I don't know.
I thought maybe, you know, the money, the agent said this, the agent said that.
He said, you're losing the whole point of this.
He said, the simple fact you put Radio City on sale was the win.
That was the win.
He goes, you're doing what I would do.
You're doubling up.
You're double or nothing, double or nothing, double or nothing.
Stop it.
He said, do one.
I was like, yeah, but dad, if I can sell out a second show, then maybe the Madison Square Garden people see me, and then I hit my real goal, MSG. He goes, MSG will happen when it happens.
Stop doubling up.
Stop doubling or nothing.
That's what got me in the worst shape of my life.
joe rogan
Your dad's right.
chris distefano
Yeah.
He was like, get one and move on.
Get one.
Get one.
And I was like, wow.
joe rogan
Well, it's just fascinating that he sees those patterns in you.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, it is like a genetic propensity for gambling or a psychology thing.
But also, it's like growing up with him.
I'm sure, like, it transferred to you.
Whether he recognized it or not, you're probably aware of his gambling.
chris distefano
Well, when me and...
joe rogan
Dude, I gotta piss again.
I'm so sorry.
unidentified
Go piss.
joe rogan
I drank so much water.
It's so frustrating.
This is like an hour and a half in.
It's like two peas in an hour and a half.
chris distefano
I'll piss.
joe rogan
I'll piss too.
And we're back.
chris distefano
Hello.
By the way, let me tell you something.
If people want to know, I mean, Joe Rogan has a at least 60 second long piss, healthy prostate.
Thank you.
You don't have BPH. I doubt you have the prostate hyperplasia.
I don't think you have BPH. I think there's no way that that prostate is healthy.
You're drinking pomegranate juice or I don't know what it is, but you got a healthy prostate and a very, very strong flow.
joe rogan
Guys judge guys on flows.
If you're next to a dude and he's trickling, you're like, what's going on over there, man?
chris distefano
Like Tony Hinchcliffe's working out, I don't think he has as strong a flow as you.
Even though he's looking jacked.
joe rogan
You never know.
He might be one of those silent, heavy hog dudes.
chris distefano
Here's what I know about Tony Hinchcliffe.
He's just got that face, jacked looking good.
He would be...
If he had power in medieval times, he'd be a nightmare.
joe rogan
Nightmare.
chris distefano
Beheading people.
joe rogan
100%.
chris distefano
You know, taking their organs out, eating their small intestine as a sausage and peppers.
unidentified
100%.
chris distefano
Tony Hinchgaff, nightmare in medieval times.
But thank God we got him here in Austin.
We got him subdued.
He can't hurt anybody.
joe rogan
If I was a prince and I had a brother who was also a prince who was just like murdering people and I was trying to stop him, he would look exactly like Tony.
chris distefano
Tony Hinchcliffe, I mean, look at that.
Tell me that is not medieval, bloodthirsty prince face.
I mean...
joe rogan
Oh, that's Joffrey's cousin.
chris distefano
That's Joffrey's cousin!
Yeah, Tony...
joe rogan
He's from the kingdom to the north.
Yeah, oh my god, 100%.
chris distefano
Dude, Tony, yeah, he would hurt you in a bad way.
joe rogan
Tony would be the greatest joker of all time.
chris distefano
Yes.
joe rogan
He'd be right up there with Heath Ledger.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just let him be himself.
chris distefano
Tony.
Just a sinister fan.
Love fucking Tony.
joe rogan
How many Jokers have there been?
There have been so many Jokers.
You know, I won't even say that Heath Ledger's the best because I think Joaquin Phoenix is the best.
He's the creepiest.
He's the most profound.
The one that I buy the most is the Joaquin Phoenix Joker.
The Jack Nicholson one was fun.
There was a lot of fun ones.
But the Joaquin Phoenix one was like, holy shit.
chris distefano
Timmy D had an opportunity to work with Joaquin in a movie.
And he was saying, Joaquin, not only is he a great guy, but he said the acting is so amazing that it's almost like throws you off because you're like, this guy is like born to do this.
And they said he stays in character the whole time, which is tough, right?
I'm not an actor by trade, but I'm like, I don't know if I could stay in the character the whole time, but these guys do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a thing that, like, the actors are split on that, I guess.
I mean, obviously I'm not an actor, but in that camp, there's, like, people that think that's...
The dude from Succession, who's the old guy, Brian Cox?
chris distefano
Amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, he doesn't like the fact that the other gentleman, what's his name, Jeremy...
chris distefano
Irons, right?
joe rogan
No.
chris distefano
Kendall?
Jeremy Strong Kendall from Succession, right?
joe rogan
He's really good.
Is it Jeremy Strong?
chris distefano
That guy's a phenomenal actor.
joe rogan
Give him his propers.
Jeremy Strong.
Jeremy Strong, sorry.
He's very method, I guess.
And Brian Cox gets upset.
chris distefano
He's not that guy.
joe rogan
What the fuck is this whole shit?
He's one of those guys.
chris distefano
Well, I saw that act.
Like, Brian Cox, I saw an interview with him.
He said the reason why he's so good at playing Logan Roy is because he, in real life, hates Logan.
The idea of that guy.
He hates the 1% corporate so-and-so douchebag.
He hates that guy, so he plays that guy at a different level.
I know you did the sitcom acting and news radio, but did you ever do any dramatic acting?
unidentified
No.
chris distefano
You always did comedy acting.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did a couple of Kevin James movies.
I really didn't do that much.
I really enjoyed doing the sitcoms, but it's kind of similar to stand-up, right?
You're trying to hit a punchline.
You're trying to get a laugh.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
But it's interactive.
Right.
And if you're doing it with talented people, like I fortunately was with news radio, it's a lot of fun.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's not as fun as stand-up.
chris distefano
It's just stand-up.
joe rogan
Stand-up is the best.
chris distefano
And stand-up is the art form, I think, that is the separator, the equalizer, where it's like...
You know, you can definitely sell a lot of tickets if you go big on TikTok, but you can do it one time around.
If they see you the one show and then you come back and you're doing the same horse shit or whatever, and there's no shortcut with stand-up.
It takes time.
I'm 13 years in now and I feel like I'm finally just about maybe finding my voice in the way that I'm, like Colin Quinn is my mentor.
35 years.
He started comedy in 1984. Oh, 38 years.
I'm sorry.
I was born in 1984. And he says, man, it's going to take 15, maybe 20 years for you to find your voice, but that's all part of it.
It's all part of this journey.
It's all part of, you know, he's always preaching to me, like, stay in the moment, write down the little tidbits of a bit, and don't worry.
He was the one who told me, he's like, you know, the algorithm, right?
He was like, you kids are so obsessed with the algorithm.
He calls me a kid, I'm 38, but so he is.
He's like, you're obsessed with the algorithm.
He goes, I've seen the algorithm.
30 times in 30 years.
He goes, there's always something.
First it was the sitcom, then it was the reality show, then it was Cliffs.
There's always something that the young generation is chasing.
He goes, all I want you to do is get a clean, solid hour of material, and that's all I want you to focus on.
And that's what I try to do.
joe rogan
That's solid advice.
chris distefano
That's what I try to do.
Because he's like, there's always a distraction.
joe rogan
Yeah, keep your mind on the process.
And also, what do you enjoy?
You enjoy comedy, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's why we all got into it.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
We enjoy it.
chris distefano
The adrenaline rush that I got from playing basketball, Division III, but still I played, and then I transferred that adrenaline rush to physical therapy.
I was a physical therapist, and I love that.
Now I've transferred that adrenaline rush to comedy.
So that's all it is for me.
I love doing it because I feel like it's cathartic.
I'm getting my point of view out.
Whether you like it or not, I'm getting it out.
It's cathartic.
And that's what matters at the end of the day.
And that's why my dad's advice, I think, is profound when he's like, hey, with the Radio City shit, he's like, the goal was just putting one on sale.
This is a byproduct of your...
Of what you've set out to do.
So don't worry about the money.
He was like, the money always came second.
Oprah said that once.
I remember I had mononychulosis and my mom had gout when I was in eighth grade.
And I heard Oprah say, we're watching the Oprah Winfrey show, and Oprah said, the money always comes second.
In passion, the money always comes second.
And that's always been in my head.
Like, you'll get the money.
Like, even if I, you know, I just did a whole, you know, did three theaters in a row before coming here.
I haven't gotten one check yet from either one of them.
Like, the money will come.
You know, I'll remember in a month from now if I haven't gotten paid yet.
The money will come.
I did it because I loved it.
I loved performing and making fun of Fresno and, you know, kind of shitting on San Jose and getting involved in the Sacramento politics.
I loved it.
I felt like I was playing D3 ball again.
That's how you feel.
And so I don't worry about the money.
I mean, I need the money because I need another watch, but, you know, I do feel like the money with comedy has been...
I love doing physical therapy.
I was a pediatric physical therapist.
I was making $53,000 a year, but I loved it.
You know, I had helping kids.
You get a kid from a wheelchair who couldn't walk to...
Not that I'm, you know, fucking miracle worker here.
He's not going to dunk a basketball, but the fact that he could stand up Out of his wheelchair and get his leg up or her leg up to take one step and watch the parents, you know, be so...
It's so gratifying and you have the gratuity towards it where I was like...
And I kind of transfer that a bit into comedy where it's like, I just...
I'm happy to...
If one person says, hey, you made my day better, great.
Even if it was 99% of people being like, you suck, fuck you.
I don't care.
joe rogan
Well, it makes...
When I watch someone kill, it makes my day better.
We did the Vulcan last week with Shane and Ari and Norman and Tony.
It was so much fun.
It's like just watching those guys kill.
It's so enjoyable.
It's such a fun thing to do.
All these years of doing stand-up, I still love watching people kill.
It's so much fun.
It's so much fun.
chris distefano
I've got to take one of those guys out to get to protect your parks.
I'd go for Shane.
joe rogan
Take one of them out so you can get in?
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't just get in like that.
You can't just take people out and get in.
chris distefano
But what if I had a fucking...
joe rogan
That's not really how it works.
It would be a different thing.
Protect our parks is us.
You've got to come up with another thing.
chris distefano
What about protect our rivers?
What if I did the aqua version of it?
joe rogan
How about protect our egos?
chris distefano
Yeah, protect our egos.
Now, dude, Shane, Shane, Mark, and...
By the way, Ari Shafir.
Mark, I started, you know, with Shane goes without saying how great he is.
But Ari, Ari is one of those guys in my comedy generation who's a bit older, who is like, you know, as much as Colin Quinn is my elder and...
Ari is too.
Ari, dude, Ari, because Ari's lived that life, that comic life where he eats, sleeps, and breathes comedy.
He's got advice for every situation.
You could come to a situation with Ari, and he's been through it, he's lived it, and he's come out the other side, and he's got so much positive advice because Ari is a guy that I find when I'm really struggling, and he would admit, he would tell you, There's been multiple times in my life over the past year where I've struggled a little bit about, you know, I had a tweet that got out of TikTok.
I'm sorry that I was getting attacked for by the Mexican community.
I had this happen to me.
And Ari is just a guy who talks to you about what he kind of, his advice is always the same.
He's always like, dude, just let it happen to you.
Time heals all wounds.
Let it happen to you.
Stay in the moment.
You'll be fine.
Ari's one of those guys who I lean on at times to text him when I'm going through some shit.
And Ari always has at least sound advice to help me get through on the other side.
joe rogan
He's very smart.
chris distefano
Very, very smart.
joe rogan
He's and also he's also experienced like redemption with this Jew special.
chris distefano
Yeah, his Jew special so good That special is so fucking tight and so solid and he crafted it for so long It was like his best work to me the two best specials no disrespect to any other comic But the two best specials to me that I looked at of the last year and I was like those two specials are the shit and that's what I Got to strive for if I want to try to keep up.
joe rogan
What's the other one?
chris distefano
Jew by R. Shafir and Blocks by Neil Brennan.
joe rogan
Oh, I haven't seen Blocks.
chris distefano
Blocks by Neil, because they're thematic.
It's not just going up there and doing 60 minutes of material, which I think is fine, but I think in today's world, you've got to give an audience member a reason to stay around to the 60th minute.
Because of this ADHD society we live in, and I think Ari Shafir and Neil Brennan did, in my opinion, the best job of that all year, where I said, I gotta watch this to the end, because I'm learning and laughing, and then Neil Brennan, I gotta stay to the end because he's giving me this kind of mental health advice that's so profound in a funny way.
joe rogan
Yeah, Neil is a very smart dude.
Kind of creepy smart sometimes.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
But he's also like real honest about all the weird mental struggles that he's gone through and all the different things.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
And psychedelic drugs apparently had a very profound effect on him.
chris distefano
He talks about that and he talked about...
He did that brain scramble thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's some sort of magnetism.
They use it with people and it kind of rewires your brain.
He did a lot of things.
He did ketamine therapy.
chris distefano
Yep.
joe rogan
Which is wild.
He told me that was...
He goes, I thought it was going to be really mild.
He goes, it was a full-blown trip.
Like, tripping balls in a hospital somewhere, a clinic.
chris distefano
If you get an opportunity after you watch Blackbird on Apple TV, watch...
unidentified
I will.
chris distefano
Watch Neil Brennan's blocks because it's just got a theme.
And I'm not saying like...
joe rogan
Is this the Chrissy list?
chris distefano
This is the Chrissy list.
joe rogan
Chrissy list of cool shit that I've got to watch.
chris distefano
Dude, the Chrissy list of cool shit...
You've got to watch Blackburn and Apple TV. You've got to watch Neil Brennan Blocks.
You've got to watch Super Maximum Retro Show on Vice TV. You've got to watch Hitler's The Dictator's Playbook.
I don't know if you've seen that.
joe rogan
No.
chris distefano
Dictator's Playbook.
joe rogan
What's that on?
chris distefano
Netflix.
joe rogan
Oh, my.
chris distefano
It basically takes six dictators.
This is what's interesting about Netflix, even though, shout out.
My special was on there, shout out Netflix.
joe rogan
Shout out to Netflix.
chris distefano
It's interesting how they will shit on Dave Chappelle.
Easiest one.
Dave Chappelle and blah, blah, blah, blah.
Oh, transphobic material, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
But in the same breath, put out a show called The Dictator's Playbook, where they basically take Saddam Hussein, Kim Jong-un, all these dictators in history, all these dictators, and they basically show you, Mussolini, how they did it.
So I'm like...
You're shitting on a transphobic material that you are assuming and then you're showing us how to be a dictator.
What the fuck?
What side are you on here?
I don't understand.
joe rogan
Is that so history doesn't repeat itself?
So people recognize the patterns?
chris distefano
They were making it cool!
They were making Saddam Hussein look like he's fucking awesome.
Just like they do with Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer.
They're making this thing look fuck...
Why do you think I bought the glasses?
I saw the fucking Dahmer shit on Netflix.
I was like, that guy looks fucking sexy and cool.
That's what I want.
I want to eat a guy.
joe rogan
Do you think those things actually encourage people?
chris distefano
I do.
I don't think it encourages people.
I think it makes it feel like this thing is okay.
I think it takes away the pain...
Of the victim, because when they made, I mean, they played the cool fucking 80s music, you know, the actor who played Jeffrey Dahmer, unbelievable actor, you know, they made him look dope.
They made, you know, every time he's murdering someone, they're playing a, they got a dope soundtrack of a new band.
It makes it look like, oh, you know, me or you maybe, or Jamie, you know, we would be like, oh, we could understand the pain of the victim.
But some person out there in the middle of the country, they look at that and they're like, that's pretty cool.
Maybe I can have a documentary about me.
People are like that.
I don't like that.
I just don't like the kind of fakeness of, like, you're going to attack one side, but then do something that's maybe even worse.
Like, you know, in America, we've got a bit of a puritanical society, right?
Like, we don't say shit or fuck on network television, right?
Ooh, no, you can't say that, but we'll show an AK-47 if somebody's getting shot up.
We're in Italy.
They'll say fuck, shit, whatever, but you will never see gun, very rarely see gun violence or It's on basic television.
joe rogan
I watched basic television once.
I was watching one of those CSI shows and I couldn't believe how gory they are.
chris distefano
Very bad.
So my thing is like...
joe rogan
So violence is okay.
chris distefano
It's puritanical.
joe rogan
But isn't that crazy that violence is okay but the word fuck is not okay?
Like you could show a dead body with a bullet hole in it.
It's head.
chris distefano
It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
joe rogan
It's very strange.
chris distefano
It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense at all.
joe rogan
What do you think?
What's the cause of it?
Is it something that we agreed to at an early stage of society and we just hold on to it as being like some sort of a measure of civility?
Like don't say fuck, don't say shit, don't say cunt, don't say horrible words on television.
But you can show literal dead bodies.
You can show people's lives being ended.
chris distefano
Right.
I think personally, you know, the term I used before, puritanical, I genuinely think it's a kind of great-great-great-great-great-grandfather of the Puritans who would say, you are not following in the footsteps of God in our definition of it, so we are going to burn you at the stake in front of the village.
Right?
I mean, that's what they were doing with the Salem Witch Trials.
They were saying, you're not following in the footsteps of God.
We are Christians.
So we're going to burn your flesh in front of children.
But we're Christians.
You're not.
So we get to burn you.
So that's what I think is happening in a different way today.
Not as on the nose as what it was in the Salem Witch Trials, but it is happening.
joe rogan
Do you know the story of the Salem Witch Trials?
Do you know what actually happened?
chris distefano
Well, I think that there was some now, scientists today think there was a possible root No, I don't think so.
joe rogan
I think it's just supposed and it makes sense to people.
I think they think it makes sense to people because of the way people are behaving was so crazy.
And they think it's probably a combination of a bunch of things.
Like, people are, I think, predisposed to hysteria in certain situations, in like, famine, war, disease.
But there's also this thing with ergot, which is a real thing.
They know that this stuff does grow, and they have found evidence of ergot from that time period.
I think they're pretty sure that it would have been on the wheat.
How much evidence do they have?
We should probably find out.
How much evidence do they have that ergot played a role in the Salem witch trials?
chris distefano
I think that they think it's pretty profound.
joe rogan
It happened to a town in France, too.
There's a town in France that they had ergot poisoning.
I think people died as well.
chris distefano
Did you see the train derailment in Ohio?
The people there are saying that they're sounding like Mickey Mouse now from Disney World.
They have like high-pitched voices.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
chris distefano
Yeah, Google, well, whatever you want, but train derailment in Ohio.
Mickey Mouse voice, it's like a big thing.
joe rogan
Oh my God, that's horrible.
chris distefano
But I think that something like that, train derailment bullshit thing.
joe rogan
What's going on?
Let's hear this.
chris distefano
Yeah, yeah, East Palestine.
unidentified
They don't have a voice in this.
They don't care.
They're going to hush it up.
They're going to push it through.
The mayor of East Palestine yesterday at the Trump circus that came to town, and I'm a Trump voter, right?
I live in East Palestine.
We didn't need that right now.
But the mayor at this press conference says, hey media, go away.
We don't need you anymore.
That's the last thing we need.
We need this.
I mean, I wrote an open letter to the mayor telling him how to take care of this situation because he's been non-existent.
I know he gets a lot of positive.
joe rogan
I don't know if that video has the example.
chris distefano
Yeah, I was going to say, he doesn't sound like he's inhaled helium, but there's a big thing going on in that part of East Palestine, Ohio, that they're saying that they have these high-pitched, Mickey Mouse-sounding Disney voices from these train derailments, and they're saying that there's been a few of them that have derailed and released these chemicals into the air, and now that just yesterday they said that COVID was leaked from a lab, the Pentagon has admitted it.
joe rogan
Go back to that, Jamie.
There was an explanation of the Mickey Mouse voice.
chris distefano
Sore throat.
joe rogan
Go back to that article you just had.
Scroll down a little bit.
There was actually an explanation.
Someone was saying that their voice had to sound like Mickey Mouse.
Here it is.
chris distefano
Here it is.
joe rogan
Doctors say I can definitely have the chemicals in me, but there's no one in town that can run the toxicological test to find out which ones they are.
Love it 40, an auto detailer said in an extremely high-pitched voice.
He said, my voice sounds like Mickey Mouse.
My normal voice is low.
It's hard to breathe, especially at night.
My chest hurts so much at night, I feel like I'm drowning.
I cough up phlegm a lot.
I lost my job because the doctor won't release me to go to work.
chris distefano
Dude, that's crazy.
That's like Chernobyl-type shit.
Like, not as profound, but that...
It's like...
And the media won't report on that.
They'll talk about Meghan Markle.
It's wild to me.
joe rogan
They're starting to do independent tests.
Like, people are coming by and doing...
I was watching a video of this guy there.
I don't know what kind of a chemist he was, but he was explaining...
And so he's explained...
unidentified
It's just been like this ever since the train blew up.
joe rogan
That's the dude's voice.
unidentified
It's crazy.
What does your voice really sound like, Wade?
I know you can't tell us, but is it like that?
No.
You sound like Michael Jackson normally?
joe rogan
Lately, I sound like Mickey Mouse.
unidentified
Yep.
Wow.
He's got a deep, thraspy voice normally.
Other than that, I just go and get tested and get checked out.
What are they telling you?
chris distefano
Look at the Donald Trump shirt.
unidentified
I must definitely have the chemicals in me.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
chris distefano
You believe that?
joe rogan
I don't know.
chris distefano
Who knows, right?
joe rogan
If someone was trolling, imagine being that guy and faking this.
That doesn't make sense.
But if that is the case, and there's more than one person that's having that happen to them, and it's just happened recently, what's the long-term effects on these people to live near this stuff?
Is it a short-term thing?
Is it a long-term thing?
Is it just because of the initial fire?
Or is that like a poison waste ground now?
chris distefano
Yeah, that's what I don't know.
That's what people don't know at all.
I don't know.
joe rogan
But that's why...
They're trying to blame it on deregulation too.
But what I read was that that was incorrect because the deregulation didn't actually get applied.
And that the railroad that these chemicals were traveling on was not for these kind of hazardous materials.
And so they weren't supposed to be doing it anyway.
And what happened was one of the bearings of one of the wheels apparently fucked up.
chris distefano
Got it.
joe rogan
So it had nothing to do with any of those things.
chris distefano
But then they say that, again, I don't know, but then they say that there's multiple other trained derailments with chemicals and multiple other chemical facilities in Florida and this state.
So it just feels like I don't know what's happening.
joe rogan
Well, we don't know about this stuff until something like this happens.
This is happening probably all the time.
There's probably constantly transporting hazardous waste across the country all the time.
chris distefano
Well, see, that's what I thought, because my boys on my group chat would be like, this is a conspiracy.
They're trying to distract us because so-and-so is happening.
I'm like, maybe, or is it that now that this is a hot story, the media is reporting on every train derailment that's been happening all this time, but we don't report on it?
But now they're reporting on it, so we think it's a bigger problem than it actually is.
joe rogan
Right.
That could be it.
chris distefano
That's what I think about.
joe rogan
It could be it because as soon as you do concentrate on these things, then you start looking for patterns.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
And there's been a bunch of them.
Okay, look at this.
A thousand derailments occur each year.
chris distefano
There you go.
joe rogan
Now it's the new climate change.
It's a new thing to freak out about.
The derailments!
There's a thousand this year.
There's a thousand every year.
chris distefano
There you go.
joe rogan
As high as 1,800.
Oh, my God.
That's like three to six a day.
There were 1,049 such instances in 2022 out of roughly 535 million miles traveled.
Wow.
But it's just when it happens with fucking toxic chemicals and they have to light them on fire.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So this chemist was saying that he didn't think it was the wise idea to light them on fire, but I don't know what the options were.
chris distefano
Dude, I gotta be honest.
I just took my glasses off.
I'm seeing three of you.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
How strong are those glasses?
chris distefano
I'm drunk.
I'm high.
Well, I've been lying to people and telling them they're prescription.
They're not prescription.
joe rogan
What are they then?
chris distefano
They're just, I just, I made a choice to try to be cool.
joe rogan
Okay.
chris distefano
But I've been telling, lying to people all around the country saying their prescription that I legally need to wear these.
But I don't.
I just tried to take it.
I made a bold choice.
And right here on this podcast, maybe because I'm high, maybe because I'm drunk, but I'm saying to you in real time that I'm regretting who I am.
I'm taking the glasses off.
joe rogan
Don't take the watch off.
chris distefano
I'm not giving it up.
I'm putting it here.
This is not who I want to be.
joe rogan
Wow.
In real time?
chris distefano
In real time, I'm not who I want to be, and Jasmine, I love you, you know, mother of my children, but I don't, you know, I'm not 100% not gay.
I just won't, I won't, I won't, I can't commit to that.
joe rogan
What's the number, you think?
chris distefano
I would say I'm 75% straight.
joe rogan
That's all you need in this life.
Get by.
It's a nice edge.
chris distefano
Joe, I'm telling you, here's the thing.
Here's the thing, Joe.
I'm going to be honest with you.
You want to take me out after this.
You want to take me to the club.
You want to take me to a dinner.
If you're a drunk or whatever, and you say, you know what, Chris?
I'm feeling it too.
I want to kiss you on the lips.
I'd kiss you on the lips.
That's all I'm saying.
joe rogan
That's very nice of you.
chris distefano
I'm not saying you want to do that, but what I'm saying is Jamie, and the same applies to you.
You want to fucking get kissed on the lips, I'll kiss you on the lips.
joe rogan
If you'd like me to leave the room for you to discuss this with Jamie, but I'm not really interested.
chris distefano
I don't think Jamie's gay, but I don't think Jamie's not gay, is what I'll tell you.
I don't think you're gay, but I don't think Jamie's not gay.
I think Jamie is comfortable with who he is right now, but I think Jamie, if given a nudge, Can be persuaded to have some experiences that he didn't understand that he wanted to have.
unidentified
That's what I'll say.
chris distefano
Am I wrong about that, Jamie?
unidentified
What kind of nudge are you talking about?
joe rogan
Yeah, what's a nudge?
chris distefano
I'm talking about a hip thrust.
Right, Jamie?
Are you single, Jamie?
unidentified
Yes.
chris distefano
Right.
Now, how long do you go?
How long do you go?
joe rogan
Until you become a girl?
chris distefano
Well, not to become a girl, but to say, you know what?
joe rogan
Have you seen that?
Guys are doing that?
chris distefano
What are they doing?
joe rogan
These incels that are turning trans?
chris distefano
No.
joe rogan
You haven't seen this?
chris distefano
Have you seen this, Jamie?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like there's literally a term for it.
Is men who have decided...
I mean, I'm sure it's a small number, but it's enough that it's crazy that people would even consider this.
If you're just a heterosexual man, you decide that the only way to get sexual affection is to become a woman.
It doesn't even make any sense, but a lot of things that people do don't make sense.
I mean, but it also could be a troll.
chris distefano
Well, I think an 18-year-old...
See, this could be a troll, too.
...transmaxers.
joe rogan
Online manifesto promises, since females have the upper hand of the dating market, transitioning from male to female will usually improve your options when it comes to getting sex.
I feel trolled.
unidentified
Trolled.
joe rogan
That's a troll.
I feel like...
What was that in?
What article...
unidentified
National Review?
joe rogan
See, here's the thing.
If you were a funny guy and you wanted to get something published in National Review, that's what I would...
If I was...
Listen, that is subtle shit.
That is like subtle parody.
It's really quite brilliant.
chris distefano
It's brilliant.
joe rogan
And you have a name for it?
Transmaxing?
chris distefano
Transmaxing.
joe rogan
It's just like...
If there's one thing that no one has sympathy for...
It's guys who can't get laid.
Fuck you, figure it out.
chris distefano
No one cares.
Who's that Twitter with the blonde hair and the glasses?
Titiana?
joe rogan
Oh, Titania McGrath.
chris distefano
Yeah, she would do something like that.
joe rogan
A hundred percent.
chris distefano
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
A hundred percent.
She's great.
chris distefano
But I do think, but don't you think like an 18-year-old, 19-year-old boy growing up today, there's not a, the line between homosexuality and heterosexuality is blurred.
It's not as blurred as with you or I, but it's a bit more blurred with them.
joe rogan
I think it's very possible that what we see when we see aliens, with their genderless bodies and their big heads, I think that's us.
I think that's us in the future.
And I think that we are all moving in this weird direction Where we're questioning gender, and we're coming up with new ideas about gender, and I'm not saying it's a bad thing, and I'm not saying it's a good thing.
I'm saying it's a thing.
And if I thought about the increased use of technology and the incorporation of it into the human body, which seems to be inevitable, and then eventually the You won't have any use for muscles.
You won't have any use for...
If they can reproduce people with technology, which is not outside the realm of...
If science projects, like if you go from here in 2023 to 1,000, 2,000 years from now, of course they're going to be able to come up with some artificial way to create human beings.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
That could be what it looks like.
And that could be where we're going.
It could be like this weird nature pull towards that direction.
Right.
And that the further we get from the things that we were talking about earlier, the horrific nature of being a hunter-gatherer to agriculture, to modern technological innovations, to the future.
It's like our T levels are dropping, fertility rates are dropping, women are having more miscarriages, there's plastics in our bodies because of the society that we live in and the way things are created.
There's all these factors that are happening that are leading us into this one weird direction and that direction seems to be like Almost no gender.
Almost like people just becoming some new kind of thing and reproducing in some other way.
If we get to a point where literally we are in danger of extinction because human – and people say that's crazy, but there's really intelligent people far smarter than me that actually believe this is possible.
Population collapse.
They really do believe it's possible.
If that happens, if it's happening, we'll be able to stop it before it's too late.
And if it is happening, and it's inevitable, and there's nothing we can do to reverse it, and there's no drugs that we find that can fix it.
Do you think that people would allow the use of some artificial form of recreation or replication of human beings in order to keep the population alive?
I think yes.
I think if we got to a point where the only way we can keep the human population alive is if we all agree to cloning.
We're gonna fucking do it.
We're gonna splice genes up.
They're gonna figure out ways to do it.
Because the other is horrific.
The other option is we die off.
That sounds so stupid.
I get it.
Because we're living in a time where people can have sex and birth control and abortion rights are a big issue.
But if we fucking keep going with whatever direction human beings are on right now, we're going to get to some unrecognizable place where we don't have genitals.
We don't have emotions.
We're going to be some new kind of thing.
And I think that's what's probably happening, whether we like it or not.
chris distefano
Yeah.
I agree.
Babe, let me tell you.
joe rogan
Babe?
chris distefano
Babe.
joe rogan
Really, me?
chris distefano
Yeah.
First time.
You don't think you're a babe?
joe rogan
First time you ever call me a babe.
chris distefano
Am I okay with that?
joe rogan
Mark it down on our friendship calendar.
chris distefano
Cannot.
Writing down.
Joe Rogan, 228. Babe.
Babe, let me tell you something.
joe rogan
Please do.
chris distefano
You know, like what you just said, profound, 100% on board, on board the whole way.
History, again, we've been talking about history, you know, the Daily Stoic, aka the Idaho murderer, will tell you that he'll agree with me, I believe, is that, dude, we're thinking that we're the most progressive we've ever been as a society right now in 2023. Right.
In 18...
60. James Buchanan was the president right before Abraham Lincoln.
James Buchanan was the president, okay?
unidentified
He was known gay.
chris distefano
Everybody knew James Buchanan was gay.
The society did not care.
They didn't care because your sexual preference as a president did not matter at all.
Right now we go up, oh, Pete Buttigieg is gay.
Could he be the next president?
1850, 1860?
They didn't give a shit at all.
Your sexual proclivity did not matter at all if you were going to be present.
That was your own personal thing.
The height of the Roman Empire when, you know, Julius Caesar and all that...
They were having bestiality.
Homosexuality was all okay.
Nobody cared.
So we think, oh, we're so woke right now.
We're so progressive.
This has happened in history hundreds of years before.
It's just X, Y, and Z has happened to distract you from the fact that whatever puritanical thing has happened, whatever extremely liberal, extremely conservative thing has happened to distract you from the fact that we've been here before.
Babe, we've been here before.
Talk to James Buchanan if he was alive.
He would say, yeah, I was gay.
They used to call his mistress, who was a man, they used to call President Buchanan Miss Nancy, they would call him, because everybody, he was the only president in history, still to this day, no first lady, because he was gay, he was sucking cock.
joe rogan
Wasn't J. Edgar Hoover gay as well?
chris distefano
Probably, but he wasn't the president.
joe rogan
That's true, but he had as much power as the president.
chris distefano
Sucking dick.
All good.
joe rogan
All good.
chris distefano
As long as you're in your fasting window, nobody cares.
Zero intermittent fasting app.
joe rogan
You have notifications set.
chris distefano
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, baby, I'm in my window.
I'm drinking the tequila.
I can go to about 6 p.m.
tonight, central time, mountain time, whatever we're in.
I can go.
And I'm going to have a burrito.
joe rogan
Good for you.
chris distefano
I'm going to have a little fun because you know what?
I'm drunk.
I'm drunk.
I'm high.
Off the bath salts, whatever you gave me.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is that?
chris distefano
You'll get a lawsuit in three years.
joe rogan
We said we're going to come back and give it another hit.
Oh, is this a new one?
chris distefano
You want to hit me again?
joe rogan
Same one.
Jesus Christ.
chris distefano
Jamie's pushing out.
joe rogan
I got scared because the lid, the little glue-on lid, it was kind of stuck back on again after I closed it.
chris distefano
Jamie wants to go on a two-week vacation.
Can we get him on a two-week vacation?
Jamie needs to go on a vacation.
Am I hitting this again?
joe rogan
You're going on a vacation with Jamie?
Is that what you're saying?
chris distefano
Let me ask you a question.
If I hit this, are we doing Protect the Rivers?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
Okay.
chris distefano
I'll hit it anyway.
joe rogan
He wants to get rid of one of those guys.
chris distefano
No, I'm kidding.
I can't get rid of them.
I'm kidding.
I'm just joking around.
joe rogan
Dude.
Why do I like it now?
I do a couple times and then I like it.
chris distefano
Honestly, I get what Theo Vaughn is feeling.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a problem.
Because it sucks when it hits you, but then afterwards it's really kind of exciting.
chris distefano
Who lives a better life than Theo Vaughn?
joe rogan
He's living a good life.
chris distefano
I mean, what a great...
Mullet.
Good-looking kid.
joe rogan
Funny as shit.
chris distefano
Having fun.
Nashville.
Hilarious.
joe rogan
Fun to hang out with, too.
chris distefano
Sells a bunch of tickets.
unidentified
Yeah.
chris distefano
I like it.
I like Theo Vaughn.
But you think I'm okay.
You think I'm gonna be okay.
joe rogan
Right now?
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm a little worried because the way you just phrased that.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Up until that moment, I thought you were going to be okay.
But I was like, what's going on in his brain?
Like, what little rumblings that allowed him to ask that question?
You're going to be fine.
chris distefano
I think I'm a fraud.
joe rogan
No, everybody feels like that when things start going well.
chris distefano
So that's normal then?
joe rogan
Yes, 100%.
Imposter syndrome.
chris distefano
That makes me feel better.
joe rogan
Literally everybody I've ever talked to has it.
Some people won't tell you they have it, but everybody that's been willing to talk about it says they have it.
Everybody has like a certain version of it because it doesn't make any sense.
Because you see someone like whoever the fuck it is, whether it's a musician or whether it's an athlete or whether it's a comedian or a singer or a rock star.
When you see someone who is like prominent in the public eye, there's this weird thing that you have like they're a different thing.
You know, you meet Robert Downey Jr. That's a different thing.
That's fucking Iron Man.
That's a different thing.
unidentified
Huge.
joe rogan
It's not a regular person, but it is a regular person.
We're all just regular people.
So when you become that person where people go, it's Chrissy D. No, it's just me.
Oh my god, I'm a fraud.
It's natural.
Total, 100% natural.
I've had many conversations with guys who blew up who worried about that.
chris distefano
So even you, you think, oh, I don't deserve this.
joe rogan
You can't think it.
You can't allow that little fire to burn inside your mind, but it is a total normal thing to think of because it doesn't make any sense the life you get through.
chris distefano
Dude, I almost texted you this morning and said, I can't come tonight.
I almost, because I said, you know what, what am I going to do?
I'm going to go on there for a couple hours and what, be a fraud?
Well, like, you know?
unidentified
No.
chris distefano
I swear to God, I have that thing.
joe rogan
But that's why you're good.
It really is.
chris distefano
Is that what it is?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think so.
chris distefano
That's very interesting.
joe rogan
I think the guys that have that feeling, they all wind up being really good.
Because I think that that feeling comes from this place where you really do care.
And you really want to do the best that you can with your act, and you really want to be on, but you're nervous.
And so you think, like, oh my god, there's no way I could be this person.
I've tricked people.
I used to think it all the time when I'd get my name called when I was about to go on stage.
unidentified
Interesting.
joe rogan
I used to think it all the time.
This is wild.
All the time.
In the back of the Comedy Store, they'd say, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Joe Rogan.
I'd be like, what are they clapping for?
This is crazy.
This can't be real.
chris distefano
Yeah, I feel that way too.
I find myself doing my shows, you know, and having my prepared act and writing the material or whatever.
And, you know, giving it 100%.
At the end of my set, one of my last bit, which, you know, sometimes we'll get a big laugh or whatever.
I'll find myself being like, guys, I'm sorry.
I hope you enjoyed your money.
I hope you got money's worth.
I'm sorry it wasn't what you expected it to be.
And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
unidentified
Oh.
chris distefano
But then they'll be clapping, sometimes standing up and clapping, and I'm saying I'm sorry to them.
And I always wondered, like, what is this?
But you just kind of said something profound to me where you were like, everybody has that.
I thought it was just me.
joe rogan
Instead of apologizing, just tell them you appreciate them.
unidentified
I shouldn't apologize.
joe rogan
Just tell them you appreciate them.
Maybe that's what I should do.
And then you'll have an honest little engagement with those people, and you'll enjoy it.
It's a natural propensity to lean towards the negative and think about the negative and be fearful that all this success that you have now is going to go away.
That's what people worry about.
chris distefano
That's what I feel.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they're worried that they're a fraud.
One of the things that's really hard to watch is when you see someone who's doing really well and then all of a sudden they're not doing well anymore.
And then their career starts to dwindle and they start to get panicky.
People get to a weird place, especially guys who get older and it's not happening for them.
It's like, yikes.
The fear that you have is the fear of the rising.
It's the best fear because it's like the fear of the unknown.
Where is this going to lead to?
You have so much potential.
You're 38 years old.
You're just getting into your groove with stand-up.
chris distefano
Do you think I look jacked?
joe rogan
You're good.
Everything's good, dude.
Everything's good.
It's natural.
All these thoughts are natural for anybody successful at anything.
And you could ask that.
Athletes will tell you that.
Everybody has imposter syndrome.
chris distefano
Yeah, the imposter syndrome is a real...
And I don't think it's even in entertainment.
I think it's in anybody who's listening to this right now.
unidentified
Life.
chris distefano
Whatever career, field, life.
You have this imposter syndrome where whatever success you may get, you don't think is worthy.
But you got to kind of think that, you got to change your mindset and say, no, I am worthy of it.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of times the thing that drove people to try to be big at show business was a lack of attention.
I know that's definitely what happened to me when I was a child, and I know that happens to a lot of people.
And that thing that drives you to that is like a dominant force.
But at some point in time, in order to be like what I would say a healthy artist is, you have to recognize what that is and then transfer the energy that you spent trying to get attention to now try to get really good at this thing you do.
Just try to get really good at stand-up.
Try to get really good at the bits.
Try to kill.
Try to do your best at that.
And don't think about the attention anymore.
The attention is like a thing that like gets you to it and you try so hard to be good at stand-up because you want the positive feedback.
You want that attention from the audience.
But then once you figure out how to get that, there becomes like a transitioning period.
Blossom out of that if you can you mean not everybody does like some people choose to just concentrate on right what got them to the dance But I think that like the best way to think about it and be mentally healthy It's not think about yourself and attention and just think about the bits Just think about doing your best to stand up and then once you do that the attention you get will be like a balanced attention Do you think you, as Joe Rogan right now, is the best stand-up that you've been in your life right now?
Yeah, I think right now it's the best I've ever been.
Because I'm doing it a lot, and I'm smarter.
I'm older.
I've been doing it longer.
And we're still doing stand-up the way we always did stand-up.
There's no subjects that are off limits.
That's horseshit.
This is stupid.
This world that we're living in now where people are terrified of doing stand-up, it's so strange.
Cancelling people for jokes and fucking around with the way reality is being perceived.
chris distefano
Well, like, yeah, you, Louis, Bill Burr, Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock, these guys, you know, Mount Rushmore of guys from my generation who, like, you know, oh, these were the guys from, you know, when I was a kid watching them.
Yeah, you kind of have that...
Not bravado, but kind of like no fear kind of comedy, right?
joe rogan
You have to just do comedy for what you think would be funny, what you would like to hear, and the kind of shit that you enjoy.
I enjoy ridiculous people.
I enjoy Bill Burr.
I enjoy Louis C.K. I enjoy Dave Chappelle.
I enjoy ridiculous people.
I enjoy hilarious people that have these fucking perceptions of life that could boil down to the most outrageous shit on stage that makes me cry laughing.
That's why I love Joey Diaz.
That's what I like, and that's what I do, and that's what I'm always gonna do.
And you could like it or you don't like it, but that's what the art form is, and don't go to a rap concert and complain that they're singing about money and guns.
Don't.
Don't go to a country western show and complain singing about the fucking ranch and sunset and being down by the river.
Don't go to a Taylor Swift song and complain she's not doing Led Zeppelin.
There's different vibes.
And what we do as stand-ups is it's not compatible with woke social media culture.
It's just not.
So it's just not.
And that's what it is.
It is what it is.
And you can break it down all you want.
But if you allow that social media woke culture to invade stand-up, all you get is bad stand-up.
chris distefano
Yeah, you just got to be unapologetic about it.
Now let me ask you a question.
Do you think you...
Who is...
Do you think if I put up a tournament of guys in their 50s...
A wrestling fucking just man tournament.
Do you think there's anybody in their 50s who's stronger and better than you?
Physically.
joe rogan
In comedy?
chris distefano
No, no, no, no.
I'm talking about...
joe rogan
In life?
chris distefano
Of course.
I'm talking about a physical...
Like, we're talking about...
Who's a more jacked 55-year-old guy than you?
Who can literally go further than Joe Rogan in their mid-50s?
Dude, you'd beat the shit out of Barack Obama.
joe rogan
Well, that's not fair.
He doesn't do it at all.
chris distefano
How old is Jocko Willink?
joe rogan
Jocko's around my age.
He might be a little younger than me.
chris distefano
You think he can take down Jocko?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Jocko's a big fella.
chris distefano
He's a big guy, right?
Jocko's about 240. Jamie, what do you think?
joe rogan
Jocko's a legit Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt.
He's 51. He's 51?
Yeah, Jocko's an animal.
chris distefano
Joe, what are you, 53?
joe rogan
55. 55!
chris distefano
I'm 55. Dude, who's a better 55-year-old than you?
Seriously, who's better?
Tell me!
joe rogan
I don't know.
chris distefano
I don't think anybody.
I think you've pushed yourself to the best 55-year-old on the planet.
joe rogan
Thank you very much.
That's very sweet of you.
chris distefano
Protect the rivers.
joe rogan
I like this hard pitch.
chris distefano
Jamie, I mean, do you have to take...
When you step up to the plate, do you have to try to hit home runs or what?
joe rogan
Eh...
unidentified
Not the goal.
chris distefano
Jamie says that's the goal.
Jamie needs a vacation.
Give him a vacation.
joe rogan
What?
chris distefano
Jamie needs a vacation.
joe rogan
Why do you keep saying Jamie needs a vacation?
chris distefano
I'm just saying.
Because Jamie's got gray hairs in his beard.
I'm just saying, Jamie, let's get Jamie two weeks to Aruba.
joe rogan
Jamie has, like, organically programmed himself to be the greatest producer of all time.
chris distefano
Number one in history of podcasting, Jamie.
He's the GOAT. Jamie is the...
Isn't that wild?
unidentified
He's uncomfortable.
joe rogan
Look at him.
chris distefano
You have goats.
You have Joe Rogan's.
You have LeBron James.
You have Elon Musk's.
You have Barack Obama's.
You have Caitlyn Jenner's.
You have Jamie Vernon's.
joe rogan
He stands alone.
Who the fuck else is a producer like him?
You have Brian Redband, but he's a co-host.
Brian Redband's also funny.
He fucks around.
He interjects.
He puts the music.
When he does Kill Tony, he's great as a co-host.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
But he's also the producer.
So it's a little different.
chris distefano
I want to shout out my producer, the Homeless Pimp, who's amazing.
Homeless Pimp, Chrissy Chaos.
Hey, babe.
Homeless Pimp is amazing.
Homeless Pimp is in the...
Homeless Pimp looks up to Jamie.
Homeless Pimp is a great producer.
joe rogan
Nobody knows who the fuck the Homeless Pimp is.
chris distefano
Mike Lavin, the Homeless Pimp, baby.
joe rogan
Okay, now people know who he is.
chris distefano
Homeless Pimp, shout out Homeless Pimp.
Word to the wise, anyone starting a podcast out there, get yourself a producer who has autism.
They're the best.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
Also, someone who you like.
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
Someone who you like hanging out with.
chris distefano
Jamie has autism.
joe rogan
I don't think Jamie has autism.
chris distefano
Look at me, Jamie.
joe rogan
I think Jamie is in some...
chris distefano
He's got autistic tendencies.
joe rogan
He's also in a weird intelligence spectrum.
Amazing.
unidentified
I'll take that.
joe rogan
Jamie's unusually intelligent.
chris distefano
Jamie is unusually intelligent, and I said the last time you found me of a young John Travolta.
I told you that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you did, and we all got real confused.
chris distefano
You do look like...
I look like I see Scientology vibes in your face.
joe rogan
I want Jamie to get one of them old-school, timey, curly mustaches.
That's what I want him to grow.
I want Jamie to shave his head.
I want him to shave his head.
I want him to grow some crazy old school handlebar-y type...
chris distefano
I want Jamie to look like the spokesperson for Sarsaparilla.
joe rogan
What?
chris distefano
He's hasparilla.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen the UFC referee Mike Beltran's mustache?
chris distefano
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
It's the craziest thing you've ever seen in your life.
chris distefano
Dude.
joe rogan
It's goddamn, it's like, it hangs down to his nipples.
chris distefano
You'll have a good nipple mustache.
joe rogan
Maybe lower.
Oh, look at that guy.
That's what Jamie looks like?
That's rude.
unidentified
How dare you?
joe rogan
That's rude.
That's Jamie in 150 years, given the current state of medical science.
chris distefano
Fucking Jamie, dude.
Jamie, you got Bitcoin?
joe rogan
Jamie's got a lot of Bitcoin.
chris distefano
Jamie looks like he's invested properly in Bitcoin.
joe rogan
Jamie's got Bitcoin in his pocket right now.
chris distefano
I like Jamie's energy.
Dude, the energy in here, the karmic energy in the Joe Rogan experience is very positive.
joe rogan
That's good.
chris distefano
It's very positive.
joe rogan
That's what I want.
Beautiful.
chris distefano
You don't see that all the time when you're traveling around.
Dude, we just went to the bathroom.
One of your security guys was taking a shit.
It smelled positive.
joe rogan
Positively horrific.
chris distefano
He eats too much chicken skin, but positive, good guy.
I came into the studio, he shook my hand, said, hey Chris, how you doing?
But I know he's positive, friendly, but I know if at any moment I got out of line, he'd rip my skull out through my ass crack.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Does that make you feel uncomfortable?
chris distefano
It does because I say, you know what?
He's positive.
He's happy.
He has the capability to kill me with his bearings if he wanted to, but he's not that guy.
That won't happen unless I push him into that happening.
So that makes me feel good.
He knows his strength, he knows his experience, but he's got control of it.
So it makes me feel comfortable.
joe rogan
Right.
chris distefano
It makes me feel comfortable.
joe rogan
Does it make you aspire to that, to be that kind of a person?
chris distefano
It makes me aspire to that, but it also makes me simultaneously feel like I can't do that because I haven't dedicated my life to that and I'm too scared.
I still sleep to this night.
If I'm sleeping in my hotel last night, I have the bathroom light on because if I'm sleeping in pure darkness, I always see a ghost or a poltergeist or I think someone's there.
So I know I'm not going to be the guy, your security guard, who shit smells like positivity.
joe rogan
Dude, did you see that the Mexican president, the president of Mexico, took a photograph and posted it saying he caught a picture of a wood elf.
chris distefano
How wild is that?
joe rogan
This dude's wild.
Apparently he buys into a lot of old myths and fairy tales.
I hate to do this, but I gotta piss again.
chris distefano
Again?
joe rogan
Again, dude.
I drank so much goddamn water.
I'll be right back.
This will be the last segment.
chris distefano
I gotta piss.
I'll piss with you.
joe rogan
And we're back.
chris distefano
We're back.
joe rogan
This is the over-hydration show.
I apologize to everyone.
I've never had to pee this much, but I feel better.
I really do.
chris distefano
I feel blessed.
Most pisses ever on a Joe Rogan episode is with me.
And like I said, great prostate.
joe rogan
Thank you.
chris distefano
You know, we were talking about working out while we were peeing.
There's this YouTube guy I follow, AthleanX.
joe rogan
Yeah, I followed that too.
chris distefano
Right, Jeff?
And he does these ERs, they're called.
Maybe it's efficient reps, I think.
But basically, it's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
And he's a big fan of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
And I've been doing this, and I've been seeing results.
Is he thinks that the real hypertrophy, which I think is scientifically backed, the real hypertrophy comes at the last two to three reps of an exercise.
So say you're doing 12, 10, 8, 6. The last 9, 10, 11, 12 is really where the hypertrophy comes.
20 efficient reps, right?
20 ERs.
So you get an ignition set.
So you take a weight that you'll fail at between 8 and 12. Let's say you're doing bicep curls.
You'll take a 50-pound dumbbell and you'll fail at 10. You're failing at 10. When failing to him means you're breaking the form and the concentric exercise and you're failing.
You're using other muscles to kind of recruit the bicep to get that.
That's failing.
So he says, what you do then, that's your ignition set.
You take a 50-pound dumbbell, your ignition set is 10 reps.
unidentified
Boom.
chris distefano
Good.
You wait 15 seconds.
Now the real workout begins.
You have to get 20 efficient reps, 20 ERs in that time.
So after you do the 10, you're at failure.
Wait 15 seconds.
unidentified
Boom.
chris distefano
One, two, maybe I can get four, and then I gotta take a break.
Wait 15 seconds.
Boom, boom, boom.
Every 15 seconds, up to 20, that's one set.
Then you move on to the brachioradialis, the brachialis, the front deltoid, whatever it may be, and you, you know, AthleanX says you stay in that one type of workout he has.
You stay in that efficient rep range, and I gotta tell ya, that's brought, I've went from Doing his efficient rep exercise, I went from being able to do about 10 pull-ups in a row to 20 in about a month and a half.
unidentified
Wow.
chris distefano
With weight, right?
So I think I've been following that AthleanX YouTube follow, in my opinion, one of the best follows you can on YouTube.
joe rogan
It's such an amazing time if you're interested in physical fitness because there's so much information now.
There's so many people that have, like, all these studies that have been done.
There's so many people that really understand, like, the science behind building cardiovascular fitness and hypertrophy and all that.
It's a really unique time, man, because there's guys like Andrew Huberman.
Oh, Huberman, great.
Like, Lane Norton, who are, like, legit, like, weightlifters.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
And, like, jack dudes who are also scientists.
chris distefano
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, legit scientists who can give you the real information about what's effective, what's not, different ways to do it.
And here's the thing that I think, this is more important than anything, is consistency, focus, and effort.
And everything works.
Like, the people that want to do high reps, there's guys that get super jacked on calisthenics.
I mean, look at those bar stars, guys.
They have the most incredible physiques, and it's all calisthenics.
The only thing that a lot of those guys are missing is the load-bearing work for the legs.
They're load-bearing with their arms, because they're doing all this bodywork, but load-bearing with your legs, almost kind of like to build your legs up to match your upper body, you almost kind of have to do...
Unless you do like one-legged type squats and plyometrics and shit, I feel like you kind of have to lift something.
chris distefano
What about a little steroids?
That'll help you.
What if I do one cycle?
Just fucking get a pump.
joe rogan
Before you even think about doing anything, why don't you go and get blood work done so they can find out what your nutrient levels are at, where your hormone levels are at, where your cortisol levels are at.
We can have that set up next time you come into town.
chris distefano
I want to do that because I think I just, again, get one spin on this.
Let's just try one cycle of juice.
unidentified
Let's go.
chris distefano
I don't know if it would be good for you.
joe rogan
I think you should listen to your father.
I bet he would tell you you're not going to go with one.
You're going to go with two and you're going to try to double it up.
chris distefano
He doesn't want me to juice.
joe rogan
And you're going to want to look like Dorian Yates.
chris distefano
Dude, my dad, first of all, my father...
You know what's another great thing he instilled in me?
Because, you know, my Jasmine, the mother of my children, also had a son before I met her.
And so I was his stepfather immediately, right?
Beautiful thing, you know, and my dad's wisdom.
Because my dad said, you know, him and my mom divorced, right?
And my dad said, when I was a kid, he was like, even though your mother and I are divorced...
I have a child with your mother.
You'll never hear me talk bad about her.
I respect this woman more than any other woman in my life.
I respect her because she's your mother.
So when I had a stepkid, he was like, remember, you always got to respect the mother of your children.
When I was 15 years old, My mother, because my parents were divorced when I was one, my mother's Ivy League graduate, my father's third grade education.
When my parents divorced when I was one, when I was 15, my mother started dating one of my best friend's fathers, which as a 15-year-old boy, brutal.
I mean, you know, you hear, you know, we'd be sitting in the garage smoking weed, you know, fucking around, you know, as a 15, 16-year-old adolescent, somebody would be like, what do you think Chris's mom is doing?
unidentified
Uh-oh.
And one of my other friends would be like, I don't know, banging Jimmy's dead?
chris distefano
And I'd be like, ah!
You know, like, horrifying.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
chris distefano
And so anyway, so, this guy, who's dating my mother, when I'm 15...
One day, cheats on my mom and starts dating a woman, having an affair with a woman who lives directly across the street.
I'm talking about we live here, directly across, we can see into that house, that's what this guy did.
Cheated on my mom, carries on an affair with another woman directly across the street, right?
So I'm 15, 16 years old, don't really understand that my mother's heartbroken over this.
She would set up a chair, especially on the weekends, and just look out the window to see if this guy's gonna go into that other woman's house, heartbroken, horrified, staying in her pajamas, violently depressed, crying every day.
And I don't understand.
I'm a 15-year-old kid.
I'm playing my video games, jerking off to Sable.
I don't know what's going on, right?
Shout out.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't want to deal with this, right?
But my father, even though my parents were divorced, was always like, I respect your mother.
I will protect your mother forever from this point forward.
We have a child.
I protect your mother.
And that's what he instilled in me.
So he comes over one day to pick me up for basketball practice.
And I'm in my room playing video games, you know, being a dickhead, whatever.
I'm a kid.
I don't understand that my mother's outside crying, being heartbroken.
And my dad walks in, sees my mom crying, looking out the window, looks at dad, is like, the fuck is going on with this lady?
Comes into my room, he goes, Chrissy, what's going on with your mother out there?
She's crying.
I said, yeah, remember that guy she was dating?
He dumped her, and now he's dating a woman who lives directly across the street.
And my dad says, you gonna do something about that?
I said, what?
I'm 15 years old.
I have psoriasis.
I have a skin condition.
I have a neck problem.
I'm an anxious kid.
I'm playing video games.
What am I going to do?
He goes, listen, I'm going to go get us bagels.
100% true story.
He goes, I'm going to go get us bagels.
Just do me a favor.
Don't come outside.
I'm going to go get us bagels.
I'll bring bagels back to you.
What do you want?
Everything bagel with cream cheese?
unidentified
I was like, yeah, sure.
chris distefano
Not thinking anything, going back, playing my video games.
Five minutes later, I hear my mother, because she's looking out the window, screaming, Tony, Tony, you're going to kill him!
My dad went across the street.
They've been divorced 15 years.
Rang this person's bell.
Waited for this guy to come downstairs.
Started beating the shit out of him for disrespecting my mom.
I run down the stairs after I hear my mother screaming.
I see my dad.
Got blood on his knuckles.
This guy's fucking on the floor.
Not knocked out, but like, writhing in pain.
It felt like Goodfellas.
Like when Ray Liotta was walking across the street.
I felt like Karen.
Hide the gun!
I was like, oh my god!
So my dad gets in my face.
I swear to god, this is a real thing.
This happened in 1998, 1999. He goes, that was your job!
I just did your job!
Like, lunatic.
And I was like, what?
joe rogan
This is it.
The Ray Liotta scene.
chris distefano
This is how my dad is.
Fucking walking across after he just beat the shit out of the guy.
And this is me.
This is me right here.
This is him getting beat up.
My dad did just, not with the gun, but beat this fucking guy's face in.
joe rogan
Oh my God, I forgot this scene.
He pistol whips him.
chris distefano
Yeah, he pistol whips him.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
chris distefano
As he's walking across, I'm Karen.
Yeah, look, this is my dad's face right here.
Probably wearing that same...
unidentified
Doing this.
chris distefano
Yeah.
Yeah, this is me.
This is me as Karen.
That was me looking.
And I tried to make believe like I didn't see it.
And my dad goes in my face.
He goes, that was your job.
And I said, what?
I'm fucking...
What do you mean?
I'm a kid.
I'm 15 years old.
I have psoriasis.
unidentified
And then two hours later...
chris distefano
We're going over the Verrazano Bridge, which connects Brooklyn to Staten Island.
My dad's taking me to my game.
I was going to stay by him for the weekend.
Because my dad always had...
That's why I call my comedy tour the right intention but the wrong move.
My dad's intentions were protect your mother.
But the move was executed poorly.
But he says to me...
He says, Chris...
We're in traffic on the Verizon Bridge.
He goes, Chris, you know what I did was wrong back there, right?
You know I shouldn't have done that.
I was like, yeah, I know.
Mom knows.
The police know.
Everybody knows you shouldn't have done that.
He goes, exactly.
He goes, but instead of playing video games in your room, Like an asshole, you should be out there comforting your mother when she's going through a hardship.
You made me do your job.
You're responsible for protecting your mother now.
joe rogan
What a mixed signal, though.
You shouldn't do that.
It's a bad thing to do, but it's your job.
chris distefano
Exactly.
So that's where the kind of dichotomy, and my father comes in, the right intention but the wrong move, because I understand what he was saying, protect your mom, which actually was instilled in me to protect my mom.
But after that, but the move was to beat somebody up, another grown man when I'm just a kid, I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, your anxiety makes a lot of sense.
chris distefano
Very anxious.
joe rogan
Yeah, it makes sense.
Like, it's a conflict.
And if you deal with that conflict when you're a young, growing person...
It's very hard for your brain to figure out what's the right thing to do.
You don't have a clear...
You can have bad examples.
Like you could have a dad that's a horrible alcoholic.
I have friends that have that and they won't touch a drink because they saw what it does when someone becomes an alcoholic.
So you can learn from a bad example.
But it seems like he was a great guy with, like, really wise things to say, but also a bad example.
That's what's crazy.
Like, he was a wise man who cared about you, but also a bad example, and also a violent criminal.
chris distefano
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's this kind of, like I said, dichotomy, this confusion about my father as a guy, because he was amazing.
joe rogan
His advice is amazing.
chris distefano
Oh, an amazing human being, an amazing human being, but there was, you know, his methods of it was a little suspect, you know, where I was like, I got his point, you know, like, but he would, like I said, his intentions on it were not always the best, but as a, you know, but the byproduct of it was, from that moment, when I was 15, 16 years old, I never, ever, ever, when my mom needed help, I was always there to help her.
joe rogan
I think we can't even imagine what it would have been like to grow up during your dad's time.
I don't think we could imagine it.
I really don't and I don't think he could have imagined growing up in his dad's time coming over here during the Depression.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
You know these people that came over here from Italy and from Ireland and England and wherever the fuck they came from and during that time like so many people came during the early 19th century Those fucking people were hard-ass people, man.
And they made hard-ass people, and it took a long time for us to get sensitive.
And we're only becoming really sensitive to what happens to people when they grow up over the last few generations.
chris distefano
And somebody like my dad, like I said, third, fourth grade education, was able to foresee issues we're having in society now, 12 years ago.
Like, for example, when Twitter came out, right?
My dad said, I remember this was 2009, 2009, 2010. I just got into comedy, so it was 2010. And I got a Twitter, and I was telling my dad, and he was like, why'd you do that?
I was like, ah, you know, it's comedy, you know, like you gotta, everybody has a Twitter, right?
Right.
And he goes, let me tell you something about Twitter.
He goes, this is the worst thing that's going to happen to society.
I said, why?
Again, third grade education.
He said, let me tell you something that I know 100%.
He goes, not everybody's supposed to be talking.
You're not supposed to have everybody in society talking.
Only a few people supposed to talk, most of us supposed to listen.
When you got everybody talking, you're gonna have a big problem.
Trust me on that.
And now, we're here 2023, big problem.
joe rogan
Dude.
chris distefano
Everybody's got an opinion.
joe rogan
Exactly what I've said about this.
But it's just that people have to kind of earn their right to be heard.
I know that sounds ridiculous because they are doing it through Twitter.
It's just doing it in a real messy way.
Right.
Like, everybody can be heard now.
That just is what it is.
And to say, it's true, what he said, it's true, not everybody should talk, but everybody can talk.
So that's just the reality of the world we live in.
You can't change that.
That is, unless there's a fucking supernova out there that blows out our electrical system and we don't have the internet for a decade.
That's it.
This is the world we live in now.
chris distefano
And I've accepted that at this point, but I'm just saying like a street smart guy.
joe rogan
A street smart guy who grew up today would still be street smart, just with this new reality that you live in.
chris distefano
Right.
Like I grew up, like I said, with an Ivy League educated mother, so very book smart, and a third grade educated father, but very street smart, in and out of the system, whatever.
So I had this idea...
I had this both sides of, like, my mom making me, you know, understand history and memorize every state capital and understand the economy, blah, blah, blah, where my dad coming at it from just life stuff.
Like, when I... You know, my oldest daughter is...
I'm seven now, and I've only been with Jasmine, the mother of my children, for eight years, so that means the second or third date, we conceived our daughter.
And it was a big thing, because I grew up very Catholic, especially, you know, I got Catholic tattoos all over my body, like I'm fighting in the army of God, like I'm Chrissy Crusades.
And I grew up that way, just fucking Catholicism pounded down my throat.
By my mom.
And so when I got a girl pregnant out of wedlock, this in my family and in my being is a huge, it's almost like I murdered someone.
Like, it is huge.
Like, I had to approach my mother now with this idea of I got a woman pregnant who I barely know out of wedlock, And the anxiety, the kind of fear to approach my mother with this was palpable.
It was inconceivable in my mind.
And so my father, being street smart and being understanding of the world, knew how to help me with this.
I told my father first because my father doesn't judge me.
He just is like, whatever you want to do, Chris, I support you, and I'm going to help you get in and out of trouble as best I can.
That's how my father feels.
My father lives his life for me, his son.
He's like, my whole life changed, and that's how I feel about my children.
I live my life for my children.
Because that was how my dad was.
So he said to me, when I told him, I confessed.
I said, you know, I really like him in love with this woman.
She's pregnant with my child.
We're going to have this baby.
I had already been a physical therapist.
I'd already had minimal success in comedy.
I felt like I'm going to have this baby.
I'm the one who decided to have unprotected sex.
We're going to have this baby.
Despite the odds against us, I'm going to do it.
My dad goes, listen, I support you 100%.
Because everybody else in my life, when I told them I had got a girl pregnant, were like, oh my god, blah, blah, blah.
Negative right away.
My father's first words out of his mouth were congratulations.
That's what he said, congratulations.
Because he knew, he was like, I'm just going to support you, whatever it is.
joe rogan
That's a great combination between your mom and your dad.
It really is.
It's a great combination for a balanced view of the world.
chris distefano
Yeah, and I agree with that, because my mom, at times, we would butt heads, but she was keeping me in the straight line as much as she could, where my dad was like, I'm just supporting you in every way I can.
So I did have a, again, privileged, beautiful, blessed life.
I'm very aware of that.
But what my dad said to me was, he was like, okay, here's the thing.
He goes, here's what we've got to do with your mother right now.
He goes, she barely knows this woman, okay?
She barely knows this woman who's carrying your child.
So what we got to do, what we got to do is you got to introduce this woman and show the best qualities of this woman to your mother.
Because we got to basically get your mother pregnant.
joe rogan
Get her on board.
chris distefano
He said exactly what he goes.
We got to get your mother pregnant with the idea of her being pregnant.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
chris distefano
We gotta make your mother fall in love with this woman.
And then the fact that she's pregnant is a bonus.
That's what we gotta do.
So that's what I did.
And I gotta tell you, by the time I told my mom Jasmine was pregnant, was four or five months into knowing her, Mom didn't bat an eye.
She was like, amazing.
I love it.
And that was all my dad being street smart saying, get your mother pregnant with the idea of her being pregnant.
That's a great fucking quote.
Now my mom graduated from Columbia University.
I believe she couldn't have come up with the shit my dad, who's got one tooth, came up with.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
chris distefano
Yeah, dude, right?
joe rogan
That's a great combination, man.
chris distefano
Are you close to your mom and dad?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I'm close with my mom.
I'm not close with my biological dad, but I'm close with my stepdad.
chris distefano
Well, your stepdad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris distefano
Yeah.
See, and that's what I love about, you know, I have a stepchild, and I was raised half by a stepmom.
And I feel like step-parenting is the most thankless job.
It's one of the most thankless jobs because I have to—I treat my stepson like he is my own, just like my stepmother treated me like I was her own.
But we're not, right?
There's no nature or biological connection.
But I said— My connection to you as my stepson is through my daughters, and you are as much as, even though I did not create you, you are a part of my life, part of my family, and I love you like I love my children.
But it's a tough thing to kind of, when you're a stepparent, you realize like, man, I'm in third, fourth, fifth place in my own life, and I just have to accept that.
I gotta try to be the most positive human being I can and be happy for me, because happiness is, I can transfer it to my family.
But being a stepfather is harder than being a biological father because its nature is saying, this is not your kid, but yet you have to say, no, no, no, it is my kid.
This is my child.
And I found that being a stepdad has, it's almost like, you know, when you kind of like grind the gears and like, you know, grind the stuff and then a diamond comes out.
Like, I feel like that, I feel like I'm proud to be a father because of my step-parenting more than my biological.
I love my children, all three of them the same equally, even though one of them is not biologically mine.
I love him like I love my daughters.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
That seems like everything you're saying is you being on a path of being a better person.
Like, it seems like you're really concentrating on that all the time.
chris distefano
What would you do if I killed myself in my hotel room tonight?
joe rogan
You seem like you're trying to do that though, right?
I'm accurate.
I love everything you're saying and I agree 100%.
I feel the same way.
It's beautiful.
It's nice.
You're concentrating on being a better person.
That's the real thing.
So you can put the watch back on.
I think put the watch back on.
chris distefano
Jamie, have I earned it?
joe rogan
Don't be afraid of success.
chris distefano
Okay, I've earned it.
joe rogan
Put that watch back on.
chris distefano
I never know.
I always put it down upside down.
joe rogan
No, everything you're saying I wholeheartedly agree with and I think it's beautiful.
And I think thinking that way is like it's good for you.
It's good for people around you.
It's like you're trying to be the best version of Chrissy D as you could be.
chris distefano
Well, I think too like...
joe rogan
That rhymed.
chris distefano
Is that my new album?
I think that too.
Even like animals.
I never used to want a dog.
And I don't have a dog yet, but I'm contemplating getting a dog.
But I would always be like, oh, animals.
What if a cat or a dog bites my kid and I'm...
But I realize now the connection between all living things.
You know what I'm trying to say?
joe rogan
Just get an animal that's not going to bite your kid.
Get a Labrador.
Get a cool dog that's got great temperament.
chris distefano
I spelled it.
joe rogan
Get a sweet dog.
There's a lot of sweet dogs out there that are great with kids.
I have a golden retriever.
He's the best.
chris distefano
The best, dude.
Right?
joe rogan
He's so sweet with everybody.
Everybody that comes over the house is like his new best friend.
He's just a big old love ball.
chris distefano
Beautiful.
He's the best.
My mom had a dachshund, Larry.
And Larry was a little German wiener dog that fucking barked at everybody.
joe rogan
Didn't they...
Is that the dog...
Did they make them that shape for a specific reason?
chris distefano
Yes, to go into bunkers in World War II. Really?
Well, I don't know.
Look at this.
I'll wear it with the goggles.
joe rogan
I like them.
I like those glasses, dude.
I don't think you should be ashamed of that.
chris distefano
Do you want to put them on?
Do you want to see what it feels like?
joe rogan
No, I'm okay.
chris distefano
Okay.
joe rogan
But I like them on you.
chris distefano
You're confident in who you are.
joe rogan
It's a good look.
I'm like Popeye, bro.
I am what I am.
chris distefano
Did I ever tell you about Larry, the end of Larry's life?
joe rogan
What did I ask him to look up?
Dachshunds.
Sorry.
End of Larry's life.
chris distefano
You ready for this?
unidentified
Yes.
chris distefano
This is a 100% true story.
My dog, Larry, who I got when I was 16, lived with my mom.
I moved out.
Larry lived a long life, 17, 18 years, which is a long time for a dachshund.
He's dying.
Every time I go visit my mother, he's dying, right?
It's like, obviously, this dog needs to be put down.
It's like a second son to my mother.
She's not gonna put him down, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Finally, we get to a point where Larry literally looks like he's got bandages over his eyes.
He looks like he fought in the fucking Civil War.
Like, we gotta get Larry to the fucking vet.
It's a mercy kill at this point.
Larry's dying.
My mother finally agrees.
Larry's dying.
We take him to the vet.
Okay?
We take him to the vet.
The vet comes in, does her tests.
Great vet.
Does her tests.
Says yes.
Larry needs to be put down right now.
He's got all these problems, tumors, and advanced illness.
He needs to die.
Right?
Peacefully.
Great.
You know, upset, but Larry will be in a better place.
I'm there with my mother, of course, it's 11 o'clock at night, there with my mother, holding her, you know, I'm upset, she's upset, of course.
The vet says to us...
We're going to put a little needle in Larry's paw.
We're going to have a medicine that's going to kind of stop Larry's heart.
It's going to take about 20 seconds.
He will breathe his last breath, painless, numb, like it never happened.
Larry will pass away.
Of course, it's very emotionally inducing.
Emotionally inducing for me, emotionally inducing for my mom.
But we're saying, Mom, this is the best case scenario.
The vet convinced her.
I convinced her.
My mom even was convinced.
Your guys are right.
I'm almost cruel.
Letting him suffer this much.
The vet says he has to pass away.
Great.
You know, so we're prepared.
Larry's there blinking, you know, in pain.
You know, you see it.
The medicine comes in, goes in.
I see it going through the tubes, goes in through his paws.
Thinking about 20, 30 seconds.
Larry's blinking.
We're looking and I'm rubbing my mother's hysterical, as she should be.
I'm upset.
Rubbing my mother's back, of course.
30 seconds goes by.
Larry's still blinking.
I'm rubbing my mother's back.
I'm saying, Mom, it's going to be okay.
A few more seconds.
No problem.
Time's going on.
Now we're at a minute.
Now we're at a minute and a half.
And it's a long time.
And it's about two minutes now.
And my mom is crying.
Larry's blinking.
Larry actually looks like he's getting a little bit more energy.
And I said to the vet, I said, is this normal?
She goes, no, I'll be right back.
Because Larry now has got, I mean, Larry was dying, and now Larry's kind of got a bit of a pep in his step.
So I'm saying, okay, what's going on here?
My mom's kind of upset, but she's like, we're all confused.
Vet leaves, comes back, white as a ghost.
I say to the vet, because my mom is inconsolable, I say, Doc, what's going on?
She goes, I'm very sorry.
She goes, we have a new vet tech that just started last week.
Innocent mistake.
The dog next door to you was dehydrated.
And we accidentally gave Larry electrolytes, not the death medicine.
We gave him electrolytes so you might see a quick surge of energy.
I mean, Larry was doing cartwheels.
I mean, this dog was acting like he was a fucking puppy.
We see this quick surge of energy.
What about the other dog?
That's what I thought.
The electrolytes into Larry.
The vet says, don't worry, I have the right medicine right here.
Larry will be dead in a minute.
Larry now is like blinking like literally like we gave Larry like a shot of cocaine fucking fully alive unbelievable my mom doesn't know what to do they give the right medicine to Larry like the right medicine Larry died in five seconds dead last blink whatever I thought the same thing you did I said God knows what the hell happened to the dog next door yeah I have no fucking idea.
joe rogan
Just get out of there.
chris distefano
I signed that paperwork.
We fucking left.
Oh, boy.
Yeah, it was one of those things where- It's not you.
It ain't me.
joe rogan
You can't pull it back, either.
chris distefano
It was a big fuck-up, and my mom was kind of- Oh, my God.
On the drive home, my mom was like, do you think Larry could have been saved?
I said, Mom, you know what?
I think we made the right choice.
Here's a Wendy's here.
I'm starving.
unidentified
I'll get you a fucking- I'll get you some chicken- And the dehydrated dog died suddenly.
chris distefano
Might have died suddenly.
But that's medicine, baby.
unidentified
Whew.
chris distefano
That's medicine.
That's a real story.
And my mom still has the urn, has the ashes of little Larry.
By the way, I think if you have a dog, it's great to name it a funny human name.
I don't like Fido, Spot.
I like Larry, Gary, Harry, Meghan.
I met a Rottweiler once, 250 pounds, had rabies.
Her name was Josephine.
Hilarious.
Well, not rabies, but she was foam.
I don't know if she was rabies, but she was a vicious dog.
Her name was Josephine.
Hilarious.
joe rogan
I know a woman whose doctor took out the wrong kidney.
Took out her good kidney.
chris distefano
It happens.
joe rogan
How crazy is that?
chris distefano
You think that it's just in the movies.
joe rogan
People amputate the wrong foot.
chris distefano
Right.
joe rogan
They do shit sometimes.
They get tired.
They're humans.
chris distefano
They're humans.
That's the thing.
When you go into a surgery, when you have an emergency situation, the doctor is making...
Now, granted, they are professionals, but make no mistake, they are making their educated best guess.
Now, the Chances are their educated best guess is 99% right, but it is still an educated best guess.
Okay?
It is not foolproof.
joe rogan
Once they start cutting you open, putting you under, weird shit happens.
chris distefano
I mean, how many times do you have a plastic surgery or whatever that goes awry and then somebody dies?
Because I don't want to ever get a surgery that I don't need to survive.
unidentified
Right.
chris distefano
Like, I don't like my left tit.
It flails a little bit, even though I'm trying to get myself in shape.
joe rogan
Maybe get a little local anesthesia, a little nip and a tuck.
chris distefano
You think a nip and a tuck?
Maybe a cryo?
Do I need to?
joe rogan
Cryo maybe.
What about ACH? Maybe freeze your tits and see if they shrink.
Should I do ACH? You should get your whole body analyzed.
Like go and get blood work done where they can examine everything.
Your hormones, your nutrients.
And then someone should ask you about your sleep.
They should track your heart rate variability.
They should...
You know, they should find out where your fitness level's at.
There's a lot of things that...
To do it properly, if you're going to adjust your hormones, and you're at an age at 38 where a lot of people either start or consider starting, you really should get, like, a comprehensive panel on your overall health.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And there's a bunch of, like, really solid experts that can do that for you now.
chris distefano
What do you take every day?
What is there a daily intake that Joe Rogan can take?
That's the right way to do.
joe rogan
Not every day.
I have been taking peptides five days a week.
That I really like peptides.
I really like PPC-157 and some other stuff that I take.
It's great for recovery from injuries.
It increases your body's ability to produce growth hormone.
Sauna helps a lot too.
I do the sauna before I go to bed.
chris distefano
No tests.
joe rogan
I have much deeper sleep.
I do tests every three days.
I take a small shot of tests every three days.
chris distefano
So I have a friend.
joe rogan
And you do it in the fat.
chris distefano
So I have a friend, he put a test tablet in his ass.
joe rogan
Some people do that.
They have a thing where it's a slow leak.
chris distefano
What do you think of that?
joe rogan
I've never done it, nor have I talked to anybody who's done it, but I know it's a thing.
chris distefano
My friend did it.
He's got a test tablet in his ass.
And he said, when you decide to do that, you're in.
Because it's six months of just dropping tests through your ass crease.
joe rogan
That's so weird.
chris distefano
Right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Seems like I'd rather just inject it.
chris distefano
But you gotta take a pill to prevent baldness.
You gotta take a pill to prevent tits.
You gotta take a pill to prevent blood clots.
It seems like a lot.
joe rogan
You don't have to take a pill to prevent blood clots.
Unless you have some sort of high blood pressure medication or some sort of issue with your...
I mean, it's not a normal thing to take a pill to prevent blood clots.
It's not something a lot of people take.
chris distefano
I'm on high blood pressure medicine, Losardi.
joe rogan
Is that a blood clot issue though?
No, I think I've always had high blood pressure and high cholesterol when I was 12. But if someone is taking a pill to prevent blood clots, I mean, I'm not a doctor, right?
But that seems unusual, right?
chris distefano
It seems unusual.
joe rogan
A pill to prevent blood clots, what would that be for?
What's the disease?
Is there a disease specifically that causes blood clots?
chris distefano
There's got to be a disease.
joe rogan
Is there a condition that causes blood clots?
chris distefano
But you think that, I gotta get my blood drawn, I gotta get on something.
joe rogan
Well, you should definitely find out, instead of saying, I gotta get on something, find out where all your levels are at.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So that's an easy fix.
They go, they do blood work, they do a comprehensive panel.
All the nutrients, all your hormone levels, everything.
And so then you can say, oh, you're low in vitamin D, or you're low in zinc, or you're low in DHEA, whatever it is.
There's a bunch of different things.
unidentified
Gotta be something.
chris distefano
Gotta be something I'm low in.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
I'm sure there's a balance that could be achieved.
Do you take vitamins?
chris distefano
I do the Athletic Greens.
Is that enough?
On an empty stomach, which I heard does not break your fast.
I take those on an empty stomach at 8 a.m.
with a shot of apple cider vinegar, and it says it does not break your fast because anything over 30 calories breaks your fast, according to the Zero Fasting app, and this is 30 on the dot.
joe rogan
There you go.
chris distefano
What do you think?
joe rogan
I say don't sweat it.
chris distefano
Just take it, right?
joe rogan
Just take it.
It can only be good for you.
chris distefano
Dude, we've got to hang out more.
joe rogan
Okay.
chris distefano
You ever have comedians sleep over your house?
joe rogan
Not anymore.
chris distefano
Right?
What about a sleepover?
What about a comic sleepover?
joe rogan
A comic sleepover, maybe we get a big suite at a hotel somewhere.
unidentified
That'd be fun.
chris distefano
Maybe that's our thing.
Maybe you got protective parks for the other guys.
unidentified
Do a show.
chris distefano
But we do Chrissy sleepovers with me and Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Do a show somewhere.
chris distefano
Yeah, and then we conduct a sleepover.
We do s'mores.
We do tests.
We do the bath salts.
joe rogan
We play Uno.
chris distefano
We play Uno.
That's our thing.
Let those guys have that.
We got the sleepovers.
What do you think of that, Jamie?
Jamie needs a vacation.
joe rogan
Chris, I love you.
This was a lot of fun.
This was a lot of fun.
Chris DiStefano, Right Intention, Wrong Move Tour.
ChrisDComedy.com.
You're all over the place.
Look at you.
Fort Myers, Orlando, Jacksonville, Boston, West Palm, Miami, Tampa, Austin, Texas, April 2nd.
chris distefano
April 12th.
joe rogan
San Antonio.
Oh, excuse me.
April 12th.
And April 13th, San Antonio.
May 5th, Buffalo.
chris distefano
And then Radio City Music Hall, September 22nd.
unidentified
And Instagram is Christy Comedy.
chris distefano
Christy Comedy and I got my show on Vice TV, Super Maximum Retro Show.
joe rogan
Today was a lot of fun.
chris distefano
Thank you.
joe rogan
I really enjoyed it.
chris distefano
Joe, thank you so much.
I'm sleeping over.
unidentified
My pleasure, brother.
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