Gina Carano, the pioneering MMA fighter (12-1-1 record) and former Mandalorian star, recounts her 24-fight career, Disney’s defamatory cancellation after a voting-rights comment, and Hollywood’s ideological purge—dropping her despite 12 Muay Thai wins. She debates COVID policies with Joe Rogan, citing Delta’s severity over Omicron’s mildness and questioning vaccine mandates amid low efficacy claims like 13% for some studies. Both critique Biden’s erratic leadership and media bias, comparing it to China’s social credit system, while Carano avoids biological parenthood due to fears of societal instability. Her shift to Terror on the Prairie and admiration for Montana’s rugged women underscore her defiance of cancel culture, proving authenticity thrives even when mainstream narratives fail. [Automatically generated summary]
It was just, you would go into the gym, and it was just, well, we started at Master Totties, so there was a couple girls there that really liked to fight, but they liked to more look good and the attention that fighting came from.
What do you think happens there, like, with, like, the, you know, when they're just, you know, nobody's trying to even, like, make, they're just stuttering in front of each other.
It's like kind of when you're going to spar and then you just don't really want to be there or something and you're not trying to, I don't know, it just isn't flowing the chemistries off or something.
I think maybe the game plan was make Karla frustrated and take big risks.
Because she has to win, right?
She has to go after Rose to win.
But there was like, by the time we were in like round three, I was having this conversation with Cormier.
I was like, who fucking knows who won?
Who knows who's winning this?
Because this is, nothing's happening.
Like it's, when nothing's happening, this is my number one problem with scoring.
The way we have scoring with MMA. Either one of those rounds could be a 10-9 round or a round where someone beats someone pretty cleanly and lands a lot of shots could also be a 10-9 round.
We need something that shouldn't have anything to do with 10-9.
There should be a bunch of factors, like volume, the amount of strikes, submissions, takedowns, all the damage, all that shit added up, and it should be a totally different...
I mean, we should have scores like 57, 96 for one round, 120 for another round, that kind of shit.
Because that's more indicative of what's actually happening in a fight than 10-9.
It's interesting though, for you to watch these women become superstars now, like when you watch Rhonda, because Rhonda was, it was you and then it was Rhonda, and you most certainly paved the way for someone like Rhonda.
I tried it and I was like, I cannot believe I used to drink this poison.
But his dad had asked him, you know, well, I'll sponsor you for your first couple lessons if you promise me to put that down.
And that night, he put it down and he went and started training with a guy called Master Toddy.
He's this Thai man who, of course, came from Thailand, but he went over to the UK, taught over there, and then he came to the States and taught people like Angela Parr and John Wayne Parr, who came before me as well, Kit Cope and all of them.
And Kevin walked into the right gym and learned Muay Thai from the very authentic Thai style.
And then I would go in there.
And Master Chan, who I think is still in Las Vegas, I would walk in and I'm still drinking and partying and everything.
They're always like, the first two weeks of training sucks so bad because they're like, oh, too big, too big.
You need to go down.
And I'm like, I usually lose about like 20 pounds the first two weeks just because I'm like, shit, this fat shaming just sucks.
But I grew up in my family where, like, I walked in and, you know, my grandmother, my grandmama Maxine, she'd be like, honey, no, you can't look like that on TV. You have to, you know, because she comes from classical days.
She's like, no, you need to, you know, get in the gym and make sure that your face is good and da-da-da.
So my family doesn't pull any punches either, and I'm okay with that.
Like, I think it's, you know, people around you telling you the truth.
Trying to make you better in life, which is my entire family, every single one of them.
Yeah, well, I mean, obviously, like, it's, like, not a great feeling, but it is a necessary...
You know somebody cares about you when they're like, hey, you know, like, okay, hey, you're doing this in your life, and it's probably not benefiting you.
Like, how can I help you?
You know, and in my family, the Italian part of my family is just, like, it's funny, because you walk into, like, Thanksgiving, and they're like, okay, you're five pounds up.
Way to go.
You're going to stay away from the mushroom raviolis this time?
And I'm like, why do you have four different types of bread on the table?
I feel like people are so beaten down right now from the internet, from thinking that this is how people are, that they're just beaten down and then they get out and I'm just hugging as many people as possible.
I'm shaking their hands.
I wish I had more time than that for, you know, those couple, three minutes with them because...
You know, I'm not necessarily an extrovert.
It's not like I want to be out there and talking to a bunch of people, but I feel like that's what people need right now.
And I love doing it.
So I've got like four more fan expos this year that they're tiring and you have to keep your energy up for each different person.
But I just think out of all the years I'm going to do this, it's going to be this year.
So I can look people in the face and let them know that this isn't real life over here on the internet.
She did a recent film, I think it was on Apple, called Severance, which is the microchip in the brain.
Really cool series.
And of course, True Romance was one of my favorite movies to this day.
And she's coming after me, so I had posted an article about if there's any time to stand up, it's right now.
If there's any time to get canceled for something or stand up or have there be some sort of controversy, it's like, right now, standing up for our constitutional rights, I feel like that's a good time to stand.
And she got on there and said, she said, they wouldn't know about their constitutional rights or something if it slapped them or smacked them in the face.
And I was like, what?
Like...
And so I responded to it and I said, they, meaning, are you saying they are stupid?
Are you calling half or more than half the country stupid?
They don't know about their constitutional rights because all you read right here is Fox News.
And then she went into this massive spiel about like the January 6th and everything, which had nothing to do with the article.
What I think a lot of us feel, I don't know if you feel the same, but for me, I had two grandfathers start a business from scratch and made pretty good names for themselves.
And I've seen big businesses run up close and personal.
I find it really hard to believe that the people that shut us down, some of the most intelligent people, far more intelligent than I could ever imagine, didn't know by taking people's jobs away from them, taking their consistency, taking their livelihoods and saying, okay, we're going to pay you and keep you home.
Wasn't going to affect people's addictions.
Wasn't going to affect people's suicide's purpose.
Because I'm my best self when I'm working.
When I'm working, my diet is under control.
I'm working out.
I have constant interaction with people.
You're not partying all the time.
It's just structured.
Some of us need structure.
Most of us do.
I think it's probably a very small amount of people that Right now, what I'm doing is I have to provide my own work.
But I've also now got 30 years of learning how to do this now.
But when you take a bus driver, when you take somebody who's been doing a job for 25 years, And you take that away from them, and you put them at home, and now all of a sudden they're faced with their families, and they're faced with themselves, and it's like a responsibility that you just took away their structure.
So I just really find it hard to believe that this wasn't on purpose.
I think you're dealing with Monday morning quarterbacking, and I think people are looking at it and going, how did they not know this, and how did they not know that?
Like pretending you would have done things differently because you would have been smarter on Sunday.
Like you would have seen it coming and you would have done this.
I think you're giving these people way too much credit.
Smart people don't want to be in government.
Smart people want to be CEOs of giant companies that make shitloads of cash.
Corrupt people who use government to funnel money into their own accounts, whether it's through these giant fees they get paid in these speaking engagements, or whether it's through insider trading, because they know about laws and bills that are going to be passed that are going to affect the stock market, and so they get in early.
I think they were in a panic, and I think they shut everyone down, and I think they like controlling people and telling people what to do, and they didn't want to give up control.
But I think some states...
We're like, fuck that.
Get back to work.
We need to live.
We need to give people the freedom.
And this is why people celebrated Ron DeSantis in Florida.
This is why people celebrated Greg Abbott in Texas.
That's why I moved here.
I don't want anybody telling me what to do.
This is a pandemic, right?
But it's not a pandemic like fucking smallpox.
This is a different thing.
This is not the Spanish flu that's going to kill 50 fucking million people in this country.
I don't know how many government officials became billionaires, but a lot of humans that were connected to the government and connected to the decisions that were made did become billionaires.
Well, it's also just like a lot of people that were working in these pharmaceutical companies that produced these vaccines, they made enormous amounts of profit.
And they were protected.
This is the most important part.
They were protected from liability, which is nuts.
But that's the only way they were willing to do this, the way they did it.
I don't think they would release a virus that kills millions of people on purpose.
I don't think that they would crush the economy on purpose.
I think there was a lot of poor decision making that was done.
First of all, a lot of it was done with the idea that it has to seem like you're doing something because you are in government and you are a person that's in charge.
If everybody stayed home and did absolutely nothing for two weeks, it probably could have been.
You know, Lorenzo Fertitta was the first person, or it's Frank.
Frank Fertitta was the first person to suggest that.
You know what he said?
He said, listen, let's shut the fucking country down for one month.
Nobody does anything for one month.
He goes, let's just pull the fucking band-aid off.
And he was right, if everybody really did that.
The problem is nobody does that.
You go over to your friend's house, you start drinking, you're hanging out.
One buddy likes to go to the store, he goes to the store, he talks to the grocer, the grocer's got COVID. You come home, you give it to grandma, grandma dies.
It's like, that's the reality of people.
They go around, they do different things, and that's why people are like, Wear a mask!
I was like, I don't think you're taking this seriously enough.
And she's like, darling, it's going to be okay.
And I'm like...
I packed up all my stuff, because I didn't know if we were going to get stuck in California.
I didn't want to get stuck away from my family, so I packed up all my stuff, I headed to Las Vegas, I stayed with my mom, and every time she came in the door I was like, wipe your shoes!
And then my stepdad would go out and I'm like, here's your mask, here's your mask.
And I was wiping down all the groceries and then I got so crazy into it that I was like, I got like a toolbox out of the garage and I was like, I just snapped.
This is a virus that was created in a fucking lab.
I don't think they did it on purpose.
I really don't.
No, I think the Chinese lab in which they did it in Wuhan was so bad, they were cited for safety violations as recently as I think 2018. I think the real question is, why were they doing this kind of research?
And the people that understand the research that they were doing, Like, Barack Obama stopped that stuff from happening in 2014. He put the kibosh on that back then.
When the Trump administration was kind of chaotic, that's when they started it all up again.
And they were lying about funding it.
They were lying about funding it.
They were saying, we don't fund it.
But you do fund EcoHealth Alliance, and EcoHealth Alliance funds the Wuhan lab.
So shut the fuck up.
This is all crazy.
These guys, the emails alone that were transferred back and forth from Peter Daszak and Anthony Fauci and all these people that were involved in the funding of this research, just the way they were framing it and the way they were disparaging legitimate scientists and legitimate doctors that were not lockstep in agreement with them, it's fucking shameful.
And I was like, I don't know if you got that text message, but I'm like, oh, it was one of those idiots that texted him saying you should have the so-and-so on your podcast.
So, you know, she was fully vaccinated and has publicly said, you know, like while Robert was getting in trouble, she's like, I do not have the same beliefs as my husband, you know?
And everybody was like, ooh, ouch.
Like, why are you going to do that to your husband?
I don't look at it in terms of the answer that I want to be correct.
I don't look at it like, oh, I'm suspicious because I go, well, what are the actual facts and why would people do this and why would people do that?
When you're the head of a union and you have something like a national public crisis, a national public health crisis, You have to show that you are taking the correct actions.
The general belief of the public is the correct action is to be vaccinated.
If you are gonna step outside of that and say, we're gonna take a rebellious position, and we're not gonna mandate that people be vaccinated, but we are gonna mandate that people have to work.
We're going to put them in these sets and we're going to have them around people, but the general consensus is for most people think that you're supposed to be vaccinated, right?
I would say more than 60% of the population thinks you should be vaccinated.
When these people are on the set with these people that That's not true.
I feel like when I see them still mandating something that all of these documents have come out and said, what is it, 13%, 14% effective, all of these people are still getting COVID-19.
I just feel like to push on and force people to get this vaccine that they don't believe in, Is in my just simple mind, it just seems like an abuse of power to kind of weed out the people that will comply and weed out the people that won't comply.
And so that now, you know, we don't have such like, you know, as big of a problem.
I think there's an element of that, but I think the element of that comes after the decisions were already made.
The decisions were made, in my opinion, originally to try to protect the public health, and then it became a thing where there is a tremendous amount of money that's being funneled into various organizations, into various politicians, into campaign funds, into all these different things, and it's by these enormous pharmaceutical companies.
I don't think that it wasn't like when Trump came out and said, you know, we're going to shut the world down for a second.
I don't think that that...
I feel like that was a really hard decision because if he didn't, then they would have ammunition on him for a lifetime and it would have just been like...
I mean, I feel like that was a really hard decision for...
Yeah, so it's like the two weeks to slow the spread, but now in looking back at the lockdowns, looking back at the masks, looking back at the forced vaccinations, I feel like anybody who's enforcing it moving forward is absolutely criminal.
Bill Gates had said this, which the way he said it, I think he phrased it in a clumsy way, which, by the way, I can relate to because I do that every day.
But he said when he was talking about it that unfortunately...
Omicron works better than the vaccine at protecting people.
So you have B cell and T cell memory that protect you somewhat.
But when your body tries to react and produce antibodies for that original strain, that original strain's not around anymore.
And then this Omicron sneaks in through the door because you were like, where is COVID? We're looking for it out here, and this Omicron COVID just sneaks right in the back door, and people get really sick.
So this is the speculation why some people get really sick that are vaccinated with Omicron, whereas a lot of people that are not vaccinated that get Omicron aren't getting as sick.
But that's also anecdotal.
It could be those people that aren't getting as sick, we're healthier, they take better care of themselves.
There's so many variables.
I just don't like when people tell me there's a one-size-fits-all approach to health.
Because I know there's people that are doing way more for their health.
They're taking vitamins, they're resting and exercising, and there's other people that are drinking and doing heroin.
We can't say that these people both need the same treatment for a fucking disease.
And in my head, you know, it's like, I can't, until I'm doing everything I possibly can to take care of myself and be responsible for my health, who am I going to be to be like, hey, you have to take, this is what I would take, I would take these antibiotics, you have to take these antibiotics, you know?
Right.
And, you know, I have a very close friend of mine who is still masking and is still doing all this, and she says, you know, because she's about, you know, 300 pounds, And she's like, well, I'm fat, so I should be able to, I have to protect myself and protect my own.
And I'm like, well, I mean, if you want to feel better, there's other places to do that, you know?
But relatively speaking, this is very generally speaking.
People are generally more attracted to people who are physically healthy because sexual attraction is a lot about who can you breed with.
And if you see someone and they're built like a bowling ball and they're just sitting there eating cake all day, generally speaking, that is not a good person to breed with.
Well, in a world where we're not really working off of common sense or natural anything, I think that maybe that's getting a little bit skewed, and maybe people are finding themselves attracted to things that they normally wouldn't have been attracted to.
There's a little of that, but it's also social media.
People pretend that they like things because it makes them seem more virtuous.
They pretend that if you aren't attracted to someone who's overweight, then you're ableist or you're sizest.
Although they come up with terms for why they shouldn't go to the gym.
You know there's there's a lot of that going on where there's just people reinforcing other people's really bad ideas and then I mean but and then there's maybe a different take on Just beauty is kind of in the eye of the beholder a little bit more definitely is yeah No, it definitely is like I know a girl and she likes really skinny guys look like they have Like heroin problems.
Yeah, that's like her thing.
Yeah, she's into like she wants to see their ribs.
I see guys that are attracted to women where you have to see the ribs.
And there's like, you know, the guys that I attract are probably more the guys that are like, oh, you could push her up against the wall and she's not going to break.
I was saying, because I think I've been a little bit naive in my life.
I would always look at the stories of the Holocaust and I'd always think, oh my gosh, how did that ever happen?
How did that ever happen in people's brains while you're in their neighborhood and they're kicking these people out of their homes?
They're taking you out and you're watching your, you know, neighbors get, you know, arrested.
How did anybody let that happen?
I just didn't understand it.
And I've been a very, you know, I mean, if you look through every single post on my, you know, Twitter account, I mean, I watch movies all the time on the Holocaust and I'm really, you know, my heart, I'm like the one that's bawling at these stories.
And until then, shut the fuck up and just leave me alone.
It's like we're dealing with the smallest percentage of a population.
And then, you know, that gets exaggerated in terms of, like, the response it gets from the general public because it seems to be something that if you're a compassionate, kind, caring person, this is what you support.
I support everybody in every way until you start telling me what to do.
And I don't like the bullying that came along with it, you know?
Yes.
So yeah, I was very vocal about all of it.
And I don't think that I was toying their line.
I also don't think that...
So I never told anybody who I voted for, right?
And to be real, I've never voted in my life, which is not a proud thing.
But in 2020, I've never believed...
Maybe this is growing up in the grunge phase or whatever.
I just never believed in...
I never believed it counted.
But when 2020 came around, I knew that after the devastation of what had happened with COVID and the lockdowns and all of that, I wanted to make sure we had a strong leader that was going to be able to get this economy back.
Because once again, it's like work makes people healthier.
It gives people structure.
It helps us survive and gives us pride.
It gives us pride to work hard in our country.
It gives me pride to work hard.
I love to work.
It's my favorite thing to do.
So I wanted to make sure that I was going to actually vote in 2020. But I never told, I wasn't like, you know, you know all the celebrities that like took off their clothes and did these campaigns and they're like, you know, vote for who we're voting for and they're like doing these naked campaigns and nobody asked for.
And it was like, and they're all letting you know very much so that they're voting Democrat and they're voting for Biden and all this.
And I'm like, all I did, this is the only thing I did, I put a sticker on my hand that says I voted.
And a hate campaign trending again.
And all I did was I didn't even tell people who I voted for.
I just said I finally voted for my first time and I did a little sparkly thing.
But I wasn't that person, though, that was like...
But I didn't like how they were being treated because they were passionate about who they were voting for, just because they were so passionate about that, as well as these people...
So I was like, you know, one of my co-stars contacted me and he's like, you know, he's like, you're not voting for Trump, though.
And I was like, well, yeah, I am going to.
And he was like, Gina.
And I'm like...
What has Joe Biden said in his past that Trump hasn't said?
I mean, if you look through all of Joe Biden's history, and I was like, and to be honest, that three years of very positive economy that he was in charge, I would be a bit pissed off if I was him too.
They didn't give him a fair shake in the news to save his life.
I mean, the CNN hoax and the Russian hoax and all of that just on top of him and You know, they're just as guilty as Trump was as dividing the media.
And now they're kind of breaking down and going to people like you and going elsewhere.
And the media is now suffering, which as they should, because they're just as guilty as Trump.
That's the reason why people don't want to listen to CNN. If CNN just stuck with subjects that are important to the world and to the American people, here's the problem with the shipping crisis.
This is what's going on.
Here's what we know about this attack on this person.
Here's what we know about this oil leak.
That kind of shit is what people go to CNN for.
They don't go to CNN to listen to the opinions of dorks.
And that's what they were trying to sell.
And that's why their credibility kept dropping.
And then when they were attacking other people, it's just, God, it's so transparent what you guys are doing.
You're little fucking watchdogs for the pharmaceutical industry, which is, they're being directed.
If you find out that, one of the things we found out when we were doing this podcast is 75% of all television ads are from pharmaceutical drug companies.
And until they do, I don't think that they're going to get their name back.
You know what I mean?
Until they genuinely...
The government, the medical companies, the media, everybody needs, Disney, everybody needs to kind of break it back down.
They need to realize that our trust in the government is probably at an all-time low.
I mean, our trust in medical information is at an all-time low.
Nobody trusts anything.
I'm like, I don't trust anything.
I was all a big fan of modern medicine, and I still am.
I'm not absolutely ridiculous when it comes to any of it, but I'm trying to figure out, I don't want to take it.
I'm becoming one of those people where I'm like, okay, I don't want to take Tylenol if I don't need Tylenol just because I have a little headache, whereas before I was like, pop a Tylenol in there.
This woman got COVID. We kind of need to break it down, right?
We need to kind of go back to water, healthy eating, kind of break ourselves back down, put away the things that we're using that is hurting us, and try to kind of get our systems clean, and then we can really see what the big problems are, and then we can kind of figure out how to get healthier from there, I think.
He looked like he was out of a Beavis and Butthead cartoon.
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And again, read that.
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Dean is a coach at ATT, and he used to fight for the UFC, and he comes in in big fights.
He'll be the guy that we go to occasionally, like about strategy, we'll ask him a question, and he'll say, like, what year he has to do this, and this and that, and what Glover's doing great is this, and when this comes up, the reason why it's getting through is because of that.
But I just think that if you showed up at a party with a Suck It Saturday shirt on, with a bald cap and a shirt that's too small, only the deep, deep insiders would be like, dude, that's a costume.
Dana, he was actually one of the people, randomly enough, that reached out to me when I got cancelled and sent me a text message.
He's like, you have to get a hold of Ben Shapiro.
And this is coming from the last time me and Dana spoke.
It was over controversy of me coming back and having a fight.
So, it was a surprise text, and he was like, hey, it was right when I was canceled, and he was like, Gina, you have to get a hold of Ben Shapiro.
He's looking for you.
And Dana was very instrumental, and I was like, wow, this is so...
It's so random, the people that come out of the woodwork, when you're completely tossed to the side, and then you really get to see people for who they are, I think.
If you were at a bar and there's a video of you trying to walk, excuse me, and you're walking and some bitch gets in your face, Fuck you, you fucking, fucking whore!
And you just crack her with an elbow and flatline her, people would think it was amazing.
No, I wasn't training until I was, you know, I'm sure I did get into a couple of fights after I started training, but they had started to like go away by that time.
Yeah, but then it wasn't like that, so we would go out and I'd just be sitting there doing nothing and some, it's always like the meanest, baddest bitch in the room would come up and be like, you know, you're looking at my boyfriend and I'd be like, you have a boyfriend?
Like, I don't think so.
I'm like, where is he?
And then, like, next, like, cut to in the parking lot, you know, like, wearing full white one time, I was wearing a white outfit, and I, like, got in this massive fight, and I mounted her and did all of that, and, you know, didn't even know what that was at the time, and then I come back in, my hair is a fro, and I've got, like, all of this asphalt down my, you know, nice white clothes, and I just, I don't know why it would always end up like that, but Me and Kevin jumped at a house party.
People love the fact that comics are still doing real comedy.
But it was harder and harder to do it in LA because there were so many people that were just like mediocre comedians that were attacking good comics for telling daring jokes and pretending that jokes were in fact statements that you would make like on an affidavit or something.
Like pretending these people aren't just joking around.
And then it became, you know, this, This weird time where it's like people were digging their heels in the sand and they were dividing themselves from other people and attacking other comics.
It's like this weird thing infected every avenue of being able to have freedom of thought, which comics are, I feel like they're the freest thinkers ever, right?
I feel like comedians are that avenue of like, hey, let's break free and think about things differently and joke about it.
And to not see those people stand up and kind of push against the cancel culture and push against the norm was really heartbreaking.
And as well as like rappers, like where was our rappers and where was our artists and our musicians at this time?
They got scared, first of all, because their livelihood was taken away.
They weren't allowed to work anymore, right?
So they got scared about that.
And then they wanted to get it back.
So there seemed to be a clear path to get it back.
Get everyone vaccinated.
We'd go back to work.
So there was like this path that everybody thought they were supposed to be on, you know?
And also it's like, it takes a lot of time to be actually informed.
To really be informed about what's going on.
When I start telling people about the history of the pharmaceutical companies and judgments against them, and when you find out that they knew that certain drugs were going to have adverse reactions but they were going to be very profitable, so they released them anyway and then they were fined billions of dollars and killed thousands and thousands of people directly because of their decisions.
People are like, what?
And then you show them the stories and the articles.
They're like, this is real?
How do I not know about this?
Because you watch fucking CNN and they're not going to tell you.
They're not going to let you know that this is an important part of the history of medical science in this country.
And there's a lot of people...
During that time, that just wanted to go back to work, and they wanted to do the right thing.
They wanted to be shown as being a person who did the right thing.
They wanted to take photos with them with a Band-Aid on their arm.
But as soon as my cancellation happened, I mean, I had reporters showing up.
I had drones looking into my, you know, my place because it looked out onto the ocean and there was drones popping up.
There was people.
I didn't live in a gated community.
And so there was like people in vans and there was people Following me to places, and I was just very exposed, which was very dangerous of Disney to have made the comment they did.
I don't even know what those really mean and I don't really like labels.
I just know that certain people seem to be making more sense and more common sense and other people just seem to be...
Spewing out a lot of hate.
And for this moment in time, I will definitely be voting a certain way because these people are making sense.
The second those people decide that they want a power trip and not make any sense, I promise you I'll be the first one that says, this doesn't make any sense.
And I feel like that makes me somewhere in the middle.
I went into the quick care and there was a sweet, sweet little like gay guy who's just like, oh honey, and I could see his, I could, you know, all the, oh honey, it's okay.
That's what he looked like.
And I was like, is this permanent?
You know, and he's like, you just got a little wax in there.
And I'm like, wax?
He's like, yeah, you'll be fine.
That's how like quiet it was to me, you know, and I was like, Gosh, I can be normal today.
And they just went in and flushed it out.
And it was like, hearing never felt so strong in my life.
And it was hurting my ears because everything I could hear.
Well, yeah, but I was, you know, I felt like I could at that moment.
I felt like six months.
Well, Dana, you know, Dana.
He was like, and I've got Gina Crono, and it's going to be against Ron Rousey, and he started pumping it out on Twitter, and he pumped it out in the interviews, and I was like, whoa, whoa, like, calm down, like...
First of all, I don't even know who I'm going to train with.
So now you've made it harder for me to walk into a gym and just get comfortable with people because now everybody knows I'm looking for a team.
And so now it made everything so much more difficult.
And, you know, like, that's where we didn't get along for a second.
I was like, dude, like, quiet down.
If you just quiet down, I can find a team and I can get organized.
And then he said something pretty aggressive of our text messages.
I'm sure you know he does that.
And I was just like, okay, I'm not going to do that.
It was very simple for me.
That was going to be something for me.
And I was excited to be back in that world.
And I was excited to do something like that.
I respect Rhonda.
And I thought that was exciting.
But after, you just can't go back in that world and feel instantly disrespected on so many levels.
So I was like...
I'm cool I'm gonna go and then I think another movie came up and I was like sweet I'll just go do this movie then you know like I'm not gonna I don't need to be disrespected you know so that's that's how that story went.
When she said that, I'm like, you know, I'm so focused on my dreams in moviemaking, but I also...
I guess you just never lose that want to do it.
And for me, I've been looking for something to train for to get my body back and where I want it to be.
And so there's just been kind of this little thing on my shoulders like, well, you could train and you could get yourself where you want to be and use that as your focus for all that.
So we got a new Mar, used the money from the house that we got, and bought an RV. And then we went across thinking that we were going to go shoot this movie called White Knuckle in Nashville.
Well, once I got to Nashville, they were like, you know, are you willing to play by the SAG rules and all of this?
And they could mandate it.
I was like, what does that mean?
And they said, basically, if SAG mandated the vaccines while we were shooting white knuckle, then anybody who wasn't vaccinated would have to get vaccinated.
And are you comfortable with that?
And I said, no, I'm not comfortable with that.
And that also means that we were probably only going to hire only vaccinated people.
And I thought that was like, wait, I thought I just got out of California.
And so then I was like, well shit, here we go.
I was like, what's the next option?
And is there another option?
I'm living in an RV at the moment.
And they were like, yeah, the next option is we instead go with the serial killer movie.
We'll put that to the side while the world kind of figures itself out.
And we'll go with a non-union Western, which ended up being Terror on the Prairie.
Like, these women are still so, like, beautifully, like, fem...
They're everything that I would think a woman should be.
Like, they're feminine.
But they'll get on their horse, they'll go on a camping trip, they'll go hunting, they'll make their own stuff, they barter in between neighbors, and I'm like, I think that's really sexy.
I want to be a Montana woman.
But I also want to direct and I also want to give people like Cowboy Cerrone or like people that I can see have that magical something and I want to continue making art and movies.
And so they had to, like, you know, because I'm a producer on this movie, they had all of the auditions of all the guys come in, and, you know, we're watching all their tapes, and I feel like Hollywood kind of gets a little too rehearsed, which is uninteresting.
You know, somebody's an actor.
And so I just felt like, well, we're doing this Western.
I've got a guy who I think would pop on film.
And it was a really big...
Like, I had to fight for him to get this role.
And they were like...
They're like, well, we love his look and we love his reach.
But, like, how is he going to be on film?
And I was like, I believe in him.
I believe he's going to kill it.
And sure enough, you know...
He's such a shit, too.
He comes to set and he just gives you the hardest time.
I think, once again, I think I'm at the beginning of something.
Just with the female fighting, I was at the beginning of something.
And people didn't take it seriously, and then all of a sudden we're creeping up and getting, you know, all of a sudden now look at female fighting, right?
I'm really bad at standing in boxes anyways, obviously.
My thing is art.
I just want to do art.
I want to make movies.
I want to direct produce.
That's my love.
That's my fight right now.
However that comes about, I have gotten a bunch of offers to be in Some films but I just don't have the energy to do things that I'm not passionate about that I don't believe in like the You know, I don't believe in the story I don't believe I it doing independent movies or any movie or any show takes so much work and so much out of you you have to be ready to sit down with that job for you know a year and a half two years and I just can't give myself and exhaust myself
like that unless I'm obsessed with it.
And once I'm obsessed with it, then it'll be amazing.
There's not actually anybody that didn't see what happened to me and comes up to me in person in this business and out that has been like, yeah, that was cool.
They just say, man, you got railroaded and we're really sorry.
It's a first-time vote, and I just think that, you know, like, we should all be okay with, you know, when you sign on to be an actress, you don't sign your rights away, and I feel like that's when you feel like your country is going through a really dark phase of cancel culture that's going to lead to a social credit system that's going to lead to, you know, people undeservingly losing their jobs and pressure and real bullying, then I feel like it's okay to say something.
And I still don't think, like, you know, Whoopi Goldberg came out and said something super aggressive on The View about the Holocaust and about Jewish people, and it was, like, far more, like, crazy aggressive than anything.
And they're showing us that, and it's pretty aggressive.
I think that there is room for healing.
I'd hope so, or else we're just going to stay in this hateful place.
So I'd hope that people start breaking down what's really going on here and learn to have conversations.
And I do think that by Trump not having the ability to act like presidential hurt in a way that...
We need to see our leaders be able to embrace the conversation, embrace debating, and it's funny as hell.
I think he was hilarious, but when he's sitting there in the debates, he's calling names.
It's not really setting an example of how we can debate, how we all need to be talking together.
So that, I think, was a problem.
But I also think, geez, man, what they were coming after him with, if he didn't say the aggressive stuff that he did, did he even have a chance in hell of surviving that?
There's a problem in this country when you can't have differing opinions.
We have to be able to debate and have differing opinions.
But someone like Trump is so polarizing that he makes having an opinion that's different If you have an opinion that's different than what the Democrats have or left-wing people have, you're connected to Trump.
That's the problem with Trump.
The problem with Trump is not even necessarily his policy.
The problem is his personality.
You can't have that kind of personality and be a leader.
You can't be a leader that battles people on Twitter and calls your ex-girlfriend horseface.
No, I'm kind of just rolling solo for a little bit.
I'm a little bit scarred from the system.
I do think it would be nice to find somebody to kind of field some of these calls, but for right now, I'm really focused on creating and owning content myself.
You know, so things have a way of working themselves out.
I'm not, like...
I'm not too worried about it.
I just know I want to be surrounded with better people in the future, people that aren't just going to jump ship the second.
That made them kind of look bad more than anything.
What I also like to do on my social media is I like to put out memes.
I like to put out quotes.
I like to put out things that a lot of the media would put on me what they thought I meant by it.
When in reality, I mean, because they wrote that up as, you know, conservatives are, she's comparing herself to, she's comparing conservatives to the Jewish people in the Holocaust.
That's not how I read that.
And all of them wrote up the, you know, the articles on that that said that's what I was doing.
What I was saying is, let's maybe talk to each other.
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And so it doesn't get to a place that's, you know, The idea that it can't get to a place like that again is so ignorant.
And they did the most—you know, and here's—so the truckers went out, and it was obviously like they had bouncy, jumpy gyms, and they had their children out, and it was obvious that they weren't going to burn down any cities, right?
And I think that that's where I kind of, like, I learned something with the protests that were happening with the BLM riots and everything.
I was like, oh, okay, so this is why they do that.
This is why this happens, is to put the fear of God in the government, right?
Right.
So the Canadian government was not worried about these truckers burning down anything.
So my point there is I was a little bit unaware of why people would do that and cause such a scene and hurt so much of these cities.
And now I understand why they do it.
Not to say that I would ever encourage that, but I understand why.
Because after just looking at the trucker movement and how disrespected they got, it was like, dude, if they were a bigger threat down there, that wouldn't have been the case.
If you really think that no one should have a gun, then maybe your guard shouldn't have guns either.
And by the way, criminals are still going to have the guns, but your guards won't.
Because that's how it goes when you change laws like that.
You would want to stop mass shootings.
Everybody wants to stop mass shootings.
You want to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people.
Everybody wants to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people.
But when you're doing a thing because you think that the ideology that you support wants to do that thing, whether or not it's rational or reasonable, like if you say everyone has to give their guns up, that's it.
But this country's had enough.
Criminals are not going to do that.
And we all know that.
And if you say that, people will get angry at you.
Like, you're a part of the problem.
No, I'm just being honest.
This is just my honest assessment of what I think criminals do.
They generally break laws, and when you have a law that says that you can't have a gun anymore, that's 100% a law they're going to break.
Through social media and through what's going on here, but through brave people, you know, through brave people like yourself, people that have to have these conversations, maybe forced into these conversations.
If Elon Musk buys Twitter, that will have a massive impact.
The problem with Twitter is Twitter is they without doubt have shadow banned people.
They without doubt have silenced people.
They without doubt have banned people for having a different ideology than they do.
And they, without doubt, let people say horrendous, awful things to people that are conservative because they think it's okay.
They're not even in the way they decide what is acceptable or unacceptable.
It definitely crosses ideological boundaries.
There's an ideological box that you can operate in where you can say some pretty fucking horrendous shit, but if you say horrendous shit to people that you think are against trans rights, you could say that.
If you say horrendous shit to people that are anti-vaccine, you're allowed to say that.
You're allowed to mock their deaths.
You're allowed to hope they die.
You're allowed to say all kinds of terrible things.
You're allowed to let it trend on Twitter and take somebody's job.
I mean, I worked 10 years in fighting and I worked 10 years in acting.
I never have had a handout.
I've never compromised myself.
I've done nothing but like...
Show up to set and absolutely give every part of me to that movie or that show and with my full heart, you know.
Meanwhile, I've got co-stars that aren't even allowed to come to set unless they have two security guards.
I mean, the shit I've seen, like, I'm a good person to work with and because I didn't toe the line in the narrative, I lose everything and I have to start from scratch and Well, you could probably have said that, what you said, at any other time in history, and people would have kind of understood what you were doing.
The people that are in control of everything, these are what you would call deep state.
These are lifelong politicians that don't get elected.
They're not really politicians.
They're people in government positions.
If you think about anybody in the intelligence agencies, people that are in the Pentagon, these people, they don't get elected.
This is not like people you get to vote for.
You don't get to vote for who decides to take us to...
Well, you kind of do in that it's a president.
The president is the commander-in-chief, but the influencers, the people that step in and try to manipulate things to get us to do one thing or the other thing based on the amount of money that they're getting from these special interest groups.
That seems like I'm exhausted already just thinking about doing that.
I think these motherfuckers want to control as much as they can, and I think they would love to have a digital currency that's centralized, a controllable digital currency like they have in China attached to a social credit score.
So if they have a social credit score system, they can decide, hey, Gina, you're stepping out of line.
I don't think you should be able to buy a house.
And they'll deny you a loan.
And that is the kind of shit that is 100% going on right now in China.
Well, I think that's one of the reasons why they hate things like crypto.
And you and me.
Cryptocurrencies are decentralized, and the government doesn't have control over them.
They can't decide.
If everyone is buying computers and cars and stuff with Bitcoin, the government has no control over that.
They can't control what it costs.
They can't control how you use it, where it's stored.
You're storing it on a phone.
It's out there in the world somewhere.
It's not even a physical thing, like gold coins, like you can keep in Fort Knox.
No, it's not based on anything.
If they could figure out a way to have a centralized digital currency, they could control people much better.
Decentralized things, whether it's decentralized podcasts, decentralized cryptocurrency, that kind of stuff scares the shit out of them, because that's kind of like the internet.
What the internet is, is it changed the battleground because everybody gets to compete.
Now, what you're seeing that's negative about that is like all these people that comment on Twitter and all these mean people that are posting things and all the weird people ganging up on people.
See, that's the negative aspect.
This is where human instincts get involved in this revolutionary groundbreaking technology, which is the ability to communicate for everybody instantaneously all around the world.
So when human beings with our fucking goofy instincts get involved in this, you're going to see chaotic things like that.
You're going to see gangs, people bullying people.
You're going to see pylons.
You're going to see virtue signaling.
You're going to see all the weird shit that you see right now.
Because what happens is, and I have a whole email to these publicists, you know, I was like, do you guys see what's happening?
What's happening is I'm getting attacked from bots employed by, who knows, a company, I believe.
And they employ the bots, and then the bots kind of grab a hold of the younger generation.
and they manipulate the younger generation into, you know, the trans rights and all of this, and we're going to fire this and, you know, fire Gina Carano all of a sudden is in a hashtag.
And none of these are like real accounts, but then they start to become real accounts with these younger generation.
Then, you know, of course, Hollywood's always looking at the younger generation.
It's like Hollywood's so afraid to grow old.
It's like they're always constantly like living through the younger generation.
So then that makes it to the Hollywood news, Once it made it to the Hollywood news, now it's going to make it to the major news.
And the publicist would tell me, just something ridiculous, like, well, Gina, this Vanity Fair article isn't a great look.
And then I'd be like, well, let me show you who wrote that.
And I'd go check the girl's Twitter, and I'd be like, this girl tweeted three weeks before this article came out that she was going to, on purpose, she was like, I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm going to say something.
And she's a writer for, I believe it's Vanity Fair.
I don't know what I'm going to do, but it's going to be great.
Meaning she's going to sabotage me in some way.
And so then, the day my episode came out in Mandalorian Season 1, the day my first episode came out, her article comes out.
And there's this calculated attack coming from Lucasfilm employees, coming from Disney, manipulating children.
It was really strange to see some of these rock stars like Howard Stern and some people that fought so hard during their day about freedoms and stuff and freedom of speech and all of this to kind of turn around and be like, let's send them all to the Mississippi River and drown them or whatever he said.
As long as I keep working out, keep eating well and taking vitamins and being smart.
I think I'll evolve my thoughts, but my principles in terms of the way I look at things, of being as brutally honest as possible and as nice as I can be.
Those things are very important to me.
The opinions that you have will evolve and change over time because information evolves and changes, you change, your perspective is different, but I'm always going to be honest about my perspective.
I might be wrong about things, but I'll tell you when I'm wrong.
If I'm wrong, I always want to come in and go, hey, I fucked up.
This is wrong and this is why I thought it was that way.
I will never lie.
I will never lie on purpose.
I will never go out of my way to say things that are untrue, to paint a different picture of the world, or a picture of the world that will satisfy some company I'm working with.
There's a thing that happens to older women in Hollywood, and I'm just saying this in general.
I'm not saying this about Patricia Arkep, because there's multiple examples of girls who were really pretty when they were young, and then they get older and they become the most uninformed activists.
I bet we'd have a full bottle of wine and we'd sit there and laugh and we'd have some similar stories and we'd have some very different point of views and it would be fun and I think it would be amazing.
I would probably be a lot more sad if I didn't feel like the entire family is just like a crime, like, you know, just completely like sold out America to other countries.
So I would feel more sad.
But it's not like I wanted to see, you know, I didn't want to see this happen to an elderly, you know, person.
And to be honest, in the future, I think, you know, I would really like to see a, you know, a younger president who...
It has the energy and the drive and the passion.
I would really like to see that kind of person that really has the intentions of bringing conversation to the table.
To find out what she's done to all those people that she kept in jail longer than they were supposed to be released, to use them as cheap labor for the state to fight wildfires.
They needed somebody that wouldn't overtake Biden, and she's not overtaking him.
I think Biden, with all of what he's been involved in, and his son, and his brother, I think with all of his—there's no way that there shouldn't have been some sort of massive impeachment trial by now.
Because they don't want Kamala to be next, so I think both the Republicans and Democrats were like, we don't want that next, so we're just going to hang out for a couple years.
Well, we are suffering, but they're suffering too.
The sanctions are fucking up the whole world.
It's a scary thing when the whole world is looking at this one superpower that decides to invade another sovereign country, and no one knows what to do.
And everyone's worried that China's going to do it to Taiwan.
I feel like what he did for Florida, a lot of people gave him a lot of grief, but ultimately he was correct.
He was correct when it comes to deaths.
He was correct when it comes to protecting our vulnerable populations.
He was correct in terms of distribution of monoclonal antibodies, and he was furious when the government tried to pull those.
They were trying to pull very effective treatments.
You know, he is not perfect.
He's a human being.
But what he's done is stand up for freedoms.
And people think that this was some weird gaslighting shit that went on where people equated freedom and saying the word freedom to, like, right-wing bigotry and hate is so strange.
And then all of a sudden those same people are now complaining about January 6th and, you know, it's just really weird.
It's really weird, like, the back and forth that goes on here.
So, like, they're burning flags, a bunch of the, like, hey, they're pro-burning flags, and then now they're pro-flag, but then they still associate it with Trumpers, and it's just like...
I just, I think what happened, you know, I think the timing of everything was really awkward.
You know, I think that the blinders for me was, I feel like America's heart got broken this last, you know.
So a lot of us that were so oblivious to what was happening, it's like somebody pulled down the blinders and they went up and it was like, oh my gosh, like I'm not, now I don't trust anything.
You know what I mean?
Right.
I might be a little bit extreme when it comes to that because I just started paying attention in 2020. And I hate to see fellow Americans, I hate to see their heart broken the way mine's been broken and understanding that, oh my gosh, so much has been a lie.
And that crushes me.
So I really just have a bit of trust issues when it comes to the timing of things.
I have trust issues when it comes to all of it.
I have to say, my heart is still open.
I'm not, you know, damaged.
I'm not bitter.
I'm just, my heart is open.
I just need to understand and keep having conversations and keep watching how things play out.
And one of the real problems is the representatives that we have in this country are disingenuous and really bad at it.
They come across as being these weird, artificial people that talk like this and use hand gestures that everyone else uses because they think it's the way to say it.
Have you seen this new White House press secretary talking about how the economy is in the best shape it's ever been?
He caught her on when they were talking about illegal aliens getting into this country.
Are you going to give them money?
The whole thing is...
Trying, I mean, the White House press secretary's relationship with the reporters, the whole thing is just trying to manipulate the view the American public has of each individual problem.
You know what's going to be really awful and really funny and maybe comedic is you're going to get a bunch of celebrities who are just like, vote Biden!
You know, taking off their clothes, vote Biden!
They're going to eventually in five years, they're going to be the ones, you know, telling stories, Hollywood movies about this time.
I feel like, you know, five years from now, three years from now, hopefully sooner, people are going to tell stories about what really happened during this time.
Yeah, they're not going to be able to because of the internet, because there's enough independent news sources, you know, whether it's Breaking Points or Kyle Kalinske or Glenn Greenwald or Sam Harris or Brett Weinstein or, you know, this podcast or whoever I get on.
They're not going to be able to gaslight us, but they're going to try to.
I mean, maybe they'll go into depth the same way they went into depth with the cigarette companies when they did that film The Insider with Russell Crowe.
Because people want to be able to sleep at night, and the way you sleep at night is by putting blinders on and pretending that we're all on the right road.
And when you're involved in a rigid ideology with left-wing progressive Hollywood, most certainly is.
Left-wing progressive Hollywood is a very rigid ideology that's not well-informed oftentimes.
You have a few well-informed ones, but there's a lot of these people that are just going with the fucking flow of the river.
And those people, it takes a long time for them to get weeded out, for them to crash into the rocks, for them to die, for them to move on.
That's what it is.
And then new people come along, and then they can look at the sins of the past, and they go, hey, you know, back in 2020, this is why they were lying about the Pfizer reports.
This is why they were trying to hide the data.
This is why they were...
The VAERS report is ineffective.
This is why they were trying to Influence doctors to not report things.
This is why they were trying to do this.
These are trying to demonize alternative medicines.
So accessing information and the amount of people that are going to keep on being frustrated and keep on...
I feel like more and more people will start speaking out and be so, like you said, they're going to be so frustrated by this administration by the time it's done.
This has been a movement.
There's other streaming services, the Daily Wire, but there's more.
The Babylon Bee, five years from now, those are going to be big companies.
It changed the way I think about human beings, because I used to think of human beings as being a static thing.
Today was the first day I've met you physically.
And I would think of, if I never knew of you, because I did obviously know of you, I would think of you as you now.
And I don't think of anybody as...
I think of them as babies that grew up.
Because I've been with babies that are now people.
And I've watched life experiences and education and just all these different environments form and shape their view of the world and their personality.
That's what I think of people now.
So when I see people that are fucked up and even mean people and bitchy people, I feel sad because I say, well, that's a broken baby.
I'm like, okay, this person got to, you know, maybe she's a producer, and she's been through a really hard history, and I try to look at things reasonably.
I'm not just instantly hating people.
I don't do that.
When I meet people, then that's when I'm like, okay, I understand this person a little bit more.