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June 30, 2022 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1838 - Brian Simpson
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joe rogan
Well, I appreciate that you're committed to this fucking Android thing.
I have a lot of friends that they send me the green text and every now and then one will show up blue.
They give up and they jump on the iPhone train.
I'm like, interesting.
brian simpson
I can't do it, man.
joe rogan
No, why?
brian simpson
What is it about it?
Because it's one of those things where I'm so into my tech and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
And if I go iPhone, then I gotta go Apple everything.
Why?
Because that's the whole advantage of going Apple is that it all just works together so well because they're on their own little ecosystem.
joe rogan
What's the advantage of not going Apple?
brian simpson
Customization.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
But are you using the phone with other stuff?
Does it integrate with other stuff?
The way an iPhone does?
brian simpson
Because I have a Samsung phone, Samsung tablet, Samsung watch.
And if I go iPhone, then I gotta get an Apple watch, I gotta get an iPad.
joe rogan
What's better?
Have you fucked with Apple stuff?
brian simpson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've had iPhones, but I just...
joe rogan
Oh, so you went Android after you went iPhone.
brian simpson
I went Android, iPhone, Android, iPhone, Android.
joe rogan
Oh, so you went back and forth, huh?
brian simpson
Yeah, I went back and forth, but at the end of the day, it was just like...
I stuck with Android because Android is more on top of some of the latest...
Apple won't do anything unless they can do it In a way where it goes, oh, that's Apple.
You know what I mean?
Like the fucking headphones.
They would not come out with headphones until they could do something where when you see it, you know that it's not something else.
Right.
joe rogan
You know it's an Apple device.
brian simpson
Right.
Same thing with the Apple Watch.
That's why it's shaped weird.
It's because they want you to look at it and go, that's an Apple Watch.
joe rogan
That is true, because the Samsung one, some dude had one the other day on.
It looked like a regular watch.
I go, that's a dope watch.
What is it?
And he's like, it's a Galaxy watch.
And I thought it was a regular watch.
And he goes, no, you can change the screen.
And he's like, fuck it with it.
But it was round.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah, right.
But it just looks like a watch.
Apple don't want that.
Yeah.
But I do love the way all the Apple shit works together, but it's like, they call it a walled garden.
Everything's beautiful in the garden, but you try to do some shit outside.
And Apple does all these little, they do all these little shitty tactics to facilitate that, right?
So the whole green bubble, blue bubble thing, that originally came out, like, you remember back when you had to pay for texts?
joe rogan
No.
brian simpson
Yeah, they used to charge for text messages.
joe rogan
How much did they charge?
brian simpson
I don't know.
It was like, you know, five cent a message or they would give you a bundle or some would come with your plan.
And Apple created iMessage and green was supposed to represent a text that you paid for and blue was supposed to be one that was free because it was in the Apple network.
And then right after they invented it, that kind of went away.
All text messages are free.
But they noticed that there was a little bit of, that there was this little snobbery there.
So they purposely, they could fix it.
They could easily integrate iMessages so that it doesn't come up different.
But they won't because it increases that fear of missing out that makes people want to go, "Fuck, I'm just gonna get an iPhone.
I'm tired of being left out of the group chats.
Perfect example.
If you send me a video, it'll come up blurry.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Right?
And that's an Apple thing.
joe rogan
It is?
brian simpson
Yes.
joe rogan
But if you send a Samsung guy a video, will it come out perfect?
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
If I send you a video, it'll come up perfect.
But if you send me one, it'll come up blurry.
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
Yeah, because they want me to feel left out.
Here's another example.
You know how when you text somebody, they can react to it, so it'll be like a smiley face or whatever?
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
So up until recently, if I sent you a text and you hearted it, it would say to me, Joe hearted, and then it would give me my whole text in quotes.
joe rogan
Oh.
What does it do now?
brian simpson
Well, now Android's work has done like a little workaround, so if you get a text like that, it'll just put a heart underneath it.
joe rogan
Okay, so I'm going to send you one right now.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
And you'll get a little heart.
All right, here we go.
brian simpson
Oh, my shit's off.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
brian simpson
I forgot it.
Yeah.
Apple does that on purpose because they want you to put the pressure on your friends to buy an iPhone.
joe rogan
It's kind of smart.
brian simpson
It is.
It's genius.
I'm not mad at them for it.
They have no incentive to work together with everybody else.
joe rogan
But isn't it also that it's encrypted?
Like, iMessengers are encrypted, whereas, like, text messages are not.
brian simpson
Yes, that's true.
Again, but that's something that they won't allow the encryption to be shared, you know?
Because here's the thing.
That's only a thing in the U.S., Everywhere else in the world, people use WhatsApp and all this other stuff.
joe rogan
WhatsApp's giant overseas, right?
brian simpson
Oh, it's huge.
It's huge.
And iPhone is not just only here, but there's only one or two countries where it's the number one phone.
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
Wonder why whatsapp and all those other things I think it's because you could use them over Wi-Fi and so you could chat without using your minutes, right?
brian simpson
Right you use them over Wi-Fi.
It's encrypted It's all the things that come with iMessage.
It's its own platform.
joe rogan
Do you remember when?
Roaming would cost you a fucking shitload of money.
Yeah, like if you use your phone in Connecticut, you'd be doomed I remember when you had minutes.
brian simpson
Yeah, you had talk minutes.
Yes And it's like a lot of these kids don't get it man.
It's like that's pretty recent Yeah, it's not that long.
I mean, no more than 15 years ago.
joe rogan
Was it that long ago?
Minutes?
jamie vernon
Well, yeah, night and weekend minutes, you know, 7 p.m.
brian simpson
Obert, your ours are at 9, ours are at 7. Well, I remember when I had, because I used to have Singular, which is, I think they're part of T-Mobile now, but they, Singular used to be like, if I called another Singular customer, it didn't use my minutes.
Or if you called somebody during certain hours, it didn't use your minutes.
You know, it was like peak hours and off hours.
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember that.
Singular, I remember too.
brian simpson
And what's funny is, it's the same fucking network.
First they told us, oh, we have to charge for minutes, otherwise we would swamp the network.
And now minutes are free, and then they start charging for texts.
It'll flood the network, we gotta charge for texts.
And now text is free, and they charge it for data.
And data they actually need, I don't know if they need to charge what they charge.
joe rogan
You know, whenever shit goes down and everybody tries to use their phone, you can't use your phone.
brian simpson
Ever.
joe rogan
That's what's weird.
Like, try using your phone at a sporting event.
Like, if you're at a Super Bowl or something like that.
brian simpson
Yeah, it's impossible.
joe rogan
Everybody's using their phone.
brian simpson
Well, try calling somebody somewhere where just something happened, an earthquake or something.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
Yeah, it's a wrap.
joe rogan
It won't work.
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
Isn't that wild?
Like, if they have a million customers, like, say if a self-sown, just as an example, just for a number, they don't have to have a million lines available at all times.
brian simpson
No.
They should treat them like casinos.
Like, you have to have X amount of dollars for every person that's in the casino.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
In case they win.
joe rogan
Yeah, because could they accommodate everybody?
Like, there has to be...
250 million phones in this country, minimum.
Minimum.
brian simpson
Yeah, probably more, yeah.
joe rogan
Probably as many as there are people, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But if everybody wanted to call at the same time, what's the number that it can hold?
brian simpson
Fuck.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is it local?
Is it like local breakers?
Or local...
I mean, how does that work?
Do you know how it works?
brian simpson
It's wild because...
There's different technologies on different networks.
joe rogan
Right.
There's 4G and there's 5G. No, no, no.
brian simpson
I mean, like CDMA versus, I forget what the other one is, but like Verizon.
joe rogan
GSM, right?
brian simpson
Yeah, GSM, right.
And so, and I want to say, I think we're the only country, the only Western country where it's split that way.
If you go to Korea, it's all one technology.
joe rogan
I think they all use GSM. Yeah.
I think, correct me if I'm wrong about this too, I think CDMA works better deep inside of buildings.
brian simpson
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
I think that was the positive aspect.
And that's only, in this country, Verizon and Sprint, right?
brian simpson
Well, Sprint just got bought, just merged with T-Mobile.
joe rogan
Oh.
brian simpson
Yeah, so it's getting smaller now.
And at the end of the day, Disney's going to own everything.
They're going to own every fucking thing, man.
jamie vernon
Damn.
I saw something.
DirecTV might be losing the Sunday ticket for the NFL, which has been the biggest thing putting it together for 30 years, maybe?
Since 1990 or something, they've had a deal.
They pay $1.5 billion a year.
joe rogan
Why are they going to lose it?
jamie vernon
The rights end after this season or next season, and the NFL's asking for $3 billion a year.
brian simpson
Yep, and you know who got it?
Disney.
jamie vernon
There's only like three companies that can afford it.
brian simpson
Disney, Netflix, I hope YouTube, I hope Google buys it and puts it on YouTube.
Because I miss...
Because DirecTV is fucking trash.
And the only reason anybody has it is because of the Sunday Ticket.
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
Nobody owns, or people that live in rural areas and they can only get satellite, but the vast majority of their customers, they're being forced to deal with DirecTV so they can have Sunday ticket.
Because the NFL started doing this anti-fan bullshit a long time ago when they put out an exclusive bid for their video game.
So remember, it wasn't too long ago where there was Madden, there was Game Day, there was 2K. Anybody could license and make an NFL game.
And then one year, NFL was like, only one person gets it.
That's how much it costs.
And EA bought it and just started making a shitty game every year.
Well, no, it wasn't shitty every year, but they don't have any competition.
And then they did the same thing with the Sunday ticket.
They were like, we'll give exclusivity if you'll give us a billion dollars every year.
So DirecTV pays the billion dollars every year and then charges their customers like $600.
joe rogan
There's certain things that anchor a network, right?
Like Howard Stern anchors Sirius.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like if Howard Stern left Sirius, they'd be fucked.
brian simpson
Yeah, pretty much.
joe rogan
Because how many people even have that now?
brian simpson
You know what?
It's more people than you think.
It's more people than I would think.
Sirius is sneaky famous like Garth Brooks.
You know?
joe rogan
That's perfect.
brian simpson
Because you know what they do?
They bundle it.
They bundle it with car purchases.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
And so then you get used to hearing something and you go, well, fuck it.
You know, what is it?
Ten bucks a month?
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, if they can get you addicted, that's a good move.
That's a great sneaky deal to have it integrated with cars.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's very smart.
brian simpson
And I still get a check.
I get checks from Sirius, too, sometimes.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
For, like, royalties?
brian simpson
Yeah, like, um...
Bits?
Yeah, bits.
Yeah.
So they paying it out.
joe rogan
Well, they were the first people to do podcasts, really.
Like, the real first podcasts were Opie and Anthony and Howard Stern.
Because they were, you know, obviously it came off of the radio, but they were the first people to do Radio Uncensored.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Radio Uncensored on Sirius existed before there was the internet podcast.
brian simpson
Yeah, because remember back when it was...
Who was their rival?
It was Sirius and something else.
joe rogan
XM. XM. And then they merged.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
And it was good.
It's still good.
And they can tell who's...
Exactly who's listening and how many listens you're getting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They know how many receivers are out there and how many...
I wonder if they know how many receivers are receiving at any given time.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
The regular radio...
I don't even know how that's still a thing.
joe rogan
Some people like it, man.
You'd be amazed.
You know who likes it?
The kind of people who can food.
brian simpson
Who, like, do it themselves?
joe rogan
Yeah, the kind of people who, like, fucking...
They've got, like, freeze-dried food buried in their garage.
You know what I mean?
brian simpson
Yeah, they got a bunker for the end of the world.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are the type of people that have ham radios.
And they're listening in.
Over.
unidentified
Over.
brian simpson
My boy Scotty's father's a ham radio guy.
joe rogan
Well, that used to be the shit.
You could talk to someone...
If the weather was right, you could talk to someone in Alaska.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Talk to someone on the other side of the world.
brian simpson
Well, what's scary is, because he's one of these people...
How do I explain it?
He was really, really smart in the 70s.
He had the world mastered.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
And now he's sort of not with the new technology, but that motherfucker can use a ham radio.
He makes his own rifles.
If things went to shit, he would be the only person that I knew that I could be like...
joe rogan
He would be the guy in the movie.
Like you'd be on a hill and you'd hear a distant shh.
So here we are here.
If you're hearing this, there is a state of emergency.
Seek high ground.
Do not make noises at night.
brian simpson
Like right when a bear is about to eat your ass, it just gets blown away.
And you're like, what the fuck?
And it's like some old man on a hill.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how it is in those movies.
He would be that guy.
He'd be that guy with his own generator.
Those are the people that are going to live.
I had this conversation last night with Eric Anders.
Eric Anders was the guest on the podcast yesterday.
He's a fighter in the UFC's middleweight division.
Really fucking cool guy.
Used to be a football player.
And we were talking about, last night, we were all talking about super volcanoes.
We started freaking out.
He was talking about how he took his kid to Yellowstone, and he's standing there, and he's like, um, we should probably get the fuck out of here.
This is a volcano!
brian simpson
But it's like that whole part of the United States.
It's not just that park.
It's like...
Spans states.
joe rogan
It's so big.
I don't think it spans states, but I think the Caldera, I think it's 300 kilometers wide, if that's correct.
It might be 600 kilometers wide.
It's either 300 miles or something like that.
But it's at least 300 kilometers wide.
brian simpson
And if it goes off, we're fucked.
joe rogan
If it goes off, we're fucked.
And it probably means the whole human race is fucked.
It's not as simple as, like, we're fucked.
Like, we're going to get down to, like, a few nomadic tribes in, like, the Amazon.
Like, this is going to kill almost everybody.
This thing's so big.
brian simpson
Yeah, that's insane, man.
Yeah, see, it crosses Montana and Idaho and Wyoming.
joe rogan
So that's the whole seismic region, right?
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
So what's the width of the caldera?
Because that was the thing that I was confused about because I thought they said it was like 300 unless 300 kilometers like goes through some of those states But that doesn't make any sense.
I guess it does if it's on the edges, right?
But what they're saying is is that it's 30 by 45 miles wide holy shit, man That's not as big as I thought I thought it was like 300 kilometers The third and most recent massive...
Maybe that's like whatever the volcanic activity is under the surface.
But whatever it is, it's a super volcano that every six to eight hundred thousand years blows.
And when it blows, it kills everything.
brian simpson
And we're overdue.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're in that range.
We're six hundred thousand years ago plus in that range.
brian simpson
Isn't it wild that...
Because I fight...
Because you hear me say cynical shit all the time.
joe rogan
If it's funny, you'll say it.
brian simpson
Yeah.
unidentified
You know, you don't say cynical shit because you're a cynical dude, though.
joe rogan
You say cynical shit because it's a funny thing to say.
brian simpson
You know what it is?
It's a constant fight.
It's like, because my reflex is cynicism.
joe rogan
Yes.
brian simpson
And I'm trying not to be, but it's like, it's hard because you would think after...
After the pandemic, like after something that affected everybody, that we would realize that all our little petty shit don't really matter.
joe rogan
Well, some of us do.
You do.
I do.
A lot of people do.
brian simpson
But it's like, I honestly believe if some global, like say there was an asteroid headed towards Earth, like a species ender, Congress would still be debating about some shit.
You know what I mean?
When it was like, Neil deGrasse Tyson would be sitting over here going, guys, we need to fucking do something now.
Him and Elon would be like, Elon would be like, I've designed the record.
And they just need funding and Congress would be still playing the political game.
Every disaster movie starts with them ignoring a scientist.
Right?
joe rogan
It's true.
brian simpson
And it's like, because they care more about It's like they don't care that the house is on fire.
They want to know who's in charge of the ashes when it's over, you know?
joe rogan
Well, you also got to wonder, like, why are they doing what they're doing?
Like, is someone in Congress, are they there because they want power?
Are they there because they want money?
Or are they there because they want to help people?
I think there's three different kinds of people, and there's a lot of variations on the theme.
brian simpson
I think...
I think everyone that starts out trying to help people gets corrupted a little bit.
joe rogan
I think a little bit, right?
I think they get a little cynical and I think they learn how to play the game.
brian simpson
Yeah, because that's the thing.
I guess I would consider myself a liberal, but I hate liberal politicians because they're pussies.
You know what kills me?
So take this abortion thing that just happened.
You know why we lost?
Because we're pussies.
Because we don't have a Trump.
Because cancel culture only works on the outside.
Republicans ain't canceling no motherfuckers.
They don't give a fuck what...
joe rogan
They don't cancel each other, that's for sure.
brian simpson
Yeah, remember, so this whole political...
Everything that Biden was trying to do politically is being held up by one senator, right?
Joe Manchin or whatever.
And you know when we lost one senator, we canceled Al Franken, the comedian.
We canceled him because his hand was hovering over a titty.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
And then they had Trump go and grab her by the pussy.
That motherfucker's president.
You know what I'm saying?
Because all Republicans care about is, are you going to vote the right way?
They want to win.
We want to feel good.
We want to feel good about who's representing us instead of winning.
I want an evil motherfucker up in there now.
I want somebody that's like, you know, because you come to Congress with good intentions and they go, okay, but listen, if you want to do all that and change the world, you got to fucking drown this puppy.
And some people are like, I can't do that.
And they're like, well, then you're never going to be more than a representative.
You want to be a senator?
You got to get some blood on your hands.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, eyes wide shut.
We need somebody that's ruthless, man.
We need a ruthless...
joe rogan
But that's not a Democrat.
The thing is, too many people on that side would never vote for that.
brian simpson
A lot of liberals become conservatives because they're tired of losing.
joe rogan
I think a lot of liberals become conservatives because they realize the worst end of liberalism.
They see the hard, far-left end of it, the Antifa people and the people that want to – they think that somehow or another they're blocking the highway is going to bring back Roe v.
Wade.
These are those kind of people they don't want to be associated with.
There's people that think that – Yelling and screaming about things.
It's not just about the thing.
It's also about you want to yell and scream.
Like, when you're doing that and you're screaming at people on the highway, like, you're not arguing with them.
These people, they probably agree with you.
Like, a lot of these people, you're blocking in traffic and beating their cars if they don't listen to you.
You don't have any authority, and you've decided that because you're outraged, you're gonna stand in the middle of the street.
But whatever, climate change.
Have you seen those people?
They lock hands and they block roads for climate change.
That's not fucking fixing climate change.
All you're doing is you getting attention and getting people angry at you for this decision that you have to stop people throughout their day.
Maybe they're driving to work to go solve climate change, you fucking idiot.
brian simpson
And these idling cars are probably putting a lot of CO2 in the air.
joe rogan
It's all not good.
It's all not good.
But it's just, the point is it's not an effective way.
It's not an effective way.
brian simpson
You know what also kills me too is like I think a lot of people don't realize from the abortion thing is like they didn't ban abortion.
They banned safe abortions.
Abortions are gonna happen.
You know what I'm saying?
Like my grandma's back in the day was like you know you would get sent to you know if you got pregnant you and you couldn't you would get sent to you know another to go visit family you know you would come back with a sister.
Or come back with a niece.
You know what I mean?
Or you have to go into some back alley and get scraped.
You know what I'm saying?
And so that's what's coming back.
Because people go...
You can't...
I just talked about this on my podcast.
So the World Cup is in Qatar.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
And there's no fucking...
joe rogan
What?
brian simpson
They ban fucking.
Come on.
I'm not kidding.
Come on.
Unless your spouse is another Olympic athlete, you're not allowed to fucking cut her for the World Cup.
joe rogan
Oh, so they can't hook up.
brian simpson
No fucking.
No fucking anybody that's not your spouse.
joe rogan
What?
brian simpson
Yeah.
And it's...
And it's not like a passive thing.
They really reiterate it.
Yeah, look.
joe rogan
Is that how you say it?
Cutter?
Is that how you say it?
brian simpson
Some people say Qatar.
Some people say Cutter.
joe rogan
I don't know how to say it.
I only read it.
Enacts sex...
Or if I said it, I forgot.
Sex bans for unmarried fans ahead of World Cup.
Qatari officials have repeat...
That sounds like a fucking Star Wars thing.
brian simpson
It sounds made up.
joe rogan
Qatari officials.
brian simpson
And I only bring it up because I'm like, you can't...
You can't fight human nature.
You can't stop people from fucking.
joe rogan
Wow.
Foreigners attending a tournament will have to comply with the Qatari laws such as the criminalization of public intoxication.
A person could also face the death penalty if caught smuggling cocaine into the country.
Holy shit.
brian simpson
Wow.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
According to British news outlet Daily Star, FIFA officials warned that no exceptions will be made, emphasizing that one-night stands could lead to seven years imprisonment.
Holy shit.
brian simpson
Damn, that's some good pussy.
joe rogan
What if you're publicly drunk and you have sex?
brian simpson
Which is usually how they go hand-in-hand.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're usually a one-two combination.
brian simpson
And a little cocaine on you.
joe rogan
God damn.
brian simpson
Yeah, that's a wrap.
joe rogan
Death penalty for Coke.
brian simpson
Yeah, if you think Brittany Griner ain't coming home...
joe rogan
And she only had, we were just talking about this on the last podcast, she only had a vape pen of CBD. CBD? Yes, it's a cannabis product.
jamie vernon
I'm pretty sure.
There's even speculation she didn't have it and it was planted.
joe rogan
Oh, well that could be possible too.
But I mean a lot of athletes are using CBD for joint aches and if you're a professional basketball player.
brian simpson
And what was she doing in Russia to begin with?
joe rogan
I guess Jamie said she was playing a game.
jamie vernon
There's a, yeah, a lot of WNBA, there's a big professional women's basketball, like, thing going on over there.
I remember seeing a video a long time, there's a lot of billionaires that just pay to have the best team, even though people aren't going to the games.
They just have money, so they pay for the best players.
My team beat your team.
brian simpson
And they gamble on it.
jamie vernon
Sure, a lot of stuff going on, yeah.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brian simpson
So where's this billionaire when we need the motherfucker?
jamie vernon
That's where I don't exactly know if she was going through somewhere.
They knew she was coming.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, it sounds like she's a political prisoner.
We talked about in the last podcast they're trying to get an arms dealer and they want to free him in exchange for her.
brian simpson
Yeah, and you know the calculation we're making is she's not worth that.
You know, it's like if we only have so many political prisoners, they're making the cold calculation of, oh, well, we're not going to trade you a diplomat and an arms dealer for a basketball player, especially a black lesbian.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy that there is a, like, if that was certain people they would do it for?
Like, if that was Obama, if Obama got kidnapped in Russia...
Actually, no, we'd be at war.
brian simpson
Yeah, we'd be at war.
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
It'd have to be like Oprah.
brian simpson
Even people that...
Oprah?
joe rogan
Oprah.
What if Oprah went to Russia and they got Oprah for a CBD pen?
brian simpson
Well, she'd pay it off.
joe rogan
Do you think she would?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's all she'd have to do?
How much do you think it costs to get out of jail right now in Russia?
brian simpson
I think Oprah got it.
I know that.
unidentified
She's got it, for sure.
joe rogan
Somebody doesn't have it to get Brittany Griner out?
She's been in there for four months.
brian simpson
Well, the WNBA doesn't make a lot of money.
joe rogan
How much money do you think you'd have to bribe them?
Just guess.
I mean, for sure, they have character and moral, and they would never accept our bribe.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah, no, of course not.
joe rogan
Of course, that's not what we're saying.
brian simpson
I'd say probably $100 million.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian simpson
Yeah.
Wow.
And I think that's probably the salaries of the whole WNBA. Pssh.
joe rogan
She's in trouble.
She's really in trouble, man.
brian simpson
Yeah, man.
She's facing, what, 10 years?
joe rogan
Yeah, something like that.
And she's already been in there for four months, and they're detaining her for another six.
brian simpson
What's wild is, like, I think that's more than they give you for being gay over there.
joe rogan
Is that part of it?
brian simpson
Well, no, because I don't know if— Because it's illegal to be gay over there.
It's illegal, yeah, but I don't know— Is that real?
joe rogan
We talked about it in the last podcast, but we never really looked it up.
Is it illegal to be gay in Russia?
Is that a real thing?
jamie vernon
I'm reading something about her specific thing and saying there's many angles to this story.
I'm trying to see if it's saying that that's part of it or not.
brian simpson
I think it's illegal to do gay shit.
I think they know she's...
I mean, if you're flying in basketball, female basketball players, you know there's some lesbians in the Bronx.
joe rogan
You know what's interesting about Russia?
Here it is.
This is a very difficult position to play her like Glarner, an outspoken advocate for LBGTQ rights, living and working in a country that has outlawed the propaganda.
Oh, it's outlawed the propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations.
Propaganda.
Under the vague cloak of that cruel law, Griner's own marriage to her wife, Sherelle, might be considered a criminal act.
brian simpson
Yeah, that's bullshit.
joe rogan
It is bullshit.
brian simpson
It's like, stop trying to control our people fucking!
joe rogan
It's weird.
I was just gonna say, there's like levels of dictatorships.
And what we're seeing in Russia, which is really interesting, it's like an emerged level of dictatorship that we didn't think existed after the Cold War.
We thought Russia had gone into some sort of vague semi-democracy.
Right?
But then when Putin really just grabbed the bull by the balls and decided to be president again, you realize, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
This is a propaganda-driven dictatorship, just like North Korea, just like a little looser, though.
Like, you could have guys like chess masters who talk shit about the government, and they don't kill them.
You know, like, they haven't killed Garry Kasparov.
brian simpson
Because one of the most dangerous people is a motherfucker that is one of the top soldiers that lost the last war.
Yeah.
They always come back and back.
Because he was one of the top soldiers in the Cold War when we whooped that ass.
joe rogan
Yes.
brian simpson
And we never thought he'd be running the...
Like, you know, you ever heard of Hannibal?
The General Hannibal?
joe rogan
Yes.
brian simpson
He was whooping...
He was beating the shit out of Rome.
Like, whooping their ass up left and right.
And one of the biggest battles ever, the Battle of Kanai, is when he crushed...
He wiped out a large percentage of the male Roman population in one day with a smaller army just by outsmarting them.
But one of the motherfuckers escaped, Scipio.
And they call him now Scipio Africanus because he studied all his tactics, he bided his time, and he came back and beat and was whooping Hannibal's ass.
I mean, Hannibal's ass.
I mean, he didn't end up killing him.
He killed him killing himself later on, but He figured out the blueprint.
He came back and beat him with his own tactics.
He was one of the handful of motherfuckers that slipped away from Kanai when Hannibal was beating the shit out of Rome.
joe rogan
So he saw how they did it and knew their tactics and then devised a strategy.
brian simpson
Yeah, because one of the big advantages Hannibal had was his Nubian cavalry.
And when Sipio came back to fight him, he paid them off.
So now they were on his side.
joe rogan
Oh.
Well, one of the things about Russia and the Soviet Union and the whole thing is that they have always had a long-term propaganda strategy for the United States.
And it was outlined, it was outlined in this conversation from like 1984 by this guy, Yuri, how do I say his name is, Beminov?
Do you remember that guy?
He was a guy who used to work for the Soviet Union.
See if you can find it.
brian simpson
Yuri Deminov.
joe rogan
I'm trying to remember his name.
I think I'm fucking that up.
But he basically was outlining their strategy for getting us to no longer trust our democracy.
Find his name?
Bezmenov.
Bezmenov.
I knew I fucked it up.
But this guy outlined...
Let's play it, because it's kind of crazy.
I know we've played this before, but it's really interesting.
jamie vernon
This is an hour and a half long.
I don't know where the exact part would be.
This is the full interview.
joe rogan
Oh, see, get a highlight.
unidentified
How...
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
Thank you.
That's it.
That's perfect.
brian simpson
Damn, he defected?
They killed his ass, right?
joe rogan
I don't know.
unidentified
Ideological subversion.
That is a phrase that...
I'm afraid some Americans don't fully understand.
When the Soviets used the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean by it?
yuri bezmenov
Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate over And open.
You can see it with your own eyes.
All you have to do, all American mass media has to do is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes and they can see it.
There's no mystery.
There's nothing to do with espionage.
I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic.
It sells more deodorants through the advertising probably.
That's why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers.
But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of intelligence at all.
According to my opinion and opinion of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money and manpower is spent on espionage as such.
The other 85% is a slow process Which we call either ideological subversion or active measures, in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare.
What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions In the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and it's divided in four basic stages.
The first one being demoralization.
It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation.
Why that many years?
Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to educate one generation of students.
In the country of your enemy, exposed to the ideology of the enemy.
In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students, without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.
The result?
The result you can see.
Most of the people who graduated in the 60s, Drop-outs or half-baked intellectuals are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system.
You are stuck with them.
You cannot get rid of them.
They are contaminated.
They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern.
You cannot change their mind.
Even if you expose them to authentic information, even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.
In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible.
To get rid of society of these people, you need another 20 or 15 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in And yet these people who've been programmed,
unidentified
and as you say, in place, and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept, these are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country?
yuri bezmenov
Most of them, yes.
Simply because The psychological shock when they will see in future what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice, obviously they will revolt.
They will be very unhappy, frustrated people.
And the Marxist-Leninist regime does not tolerate these people.
Obviously they will join the links of dissenters, dissidents.
Unlike in present United States, there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America.
Here you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being dissident, for criticizing your Pentagon.
In future, these people will be simply...
Squashed like cockroaches.
Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful, noble ideas of equality.
This they don't understand and it will be greatest shock for them, of course.
The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already for the last 25 years.
Actually it's over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such a tremendous success.
Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards.
As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore.
A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information.
The facts tell nothing to him.
Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom.
When a military boot crashes, then he will understand, but not before that.
That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization.
So, basically, America is stuck with demoralization and unless, even if you start right now, here, this minute, you start educating new generation of Americans, it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of ideological perception of reality back to normalcy and patriotism.
The next stage is destabilization.
This time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption.
Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby, it doesn't matter anymore.
This time, and it takes only from two to five years to destabilize a nation, what matters is essentials.
Economy, foreign relations, defense systems.
And you can see it quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas as defense and economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic.
I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.
The next stage, of course, is crisis.
It may take only up to six weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis.
You can see it in Central America now.
And after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure and economy, you have so-called the period of normalization.
It may last indefinitely.
Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda.
When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 1968, Comrade Brezhnev said, now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized.
This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these schmucks to bring the country to crisis.
To promise people all kind of goodies and the paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a big brother government in Washington DC with benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale, Who will promise lots of things.
Never mind whether the promises are fulfillable or not.
He will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of new generation of Soviet assassins.
Never mind.
He will create false illusions that the situation is under control.
Situation is not under control.
Situation is disgustingly out of control.
Most of the American politicians, media and educational system Trains another generation of people who think they are living at a peacetime.
unidentified
False.
yuri bezmenov
The United States is in the state of war.
Undeclared total war against the basic principles and the foundations of this system.
And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov, of course.
It's the system.
However ridiculous it may sound, the world communist system or the world communist conspiracy, whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hood.
If you are not scared by now, nothing can scare you.
But you don't have to be paranoid about it.
What actually happens now, that unlike myself, you have Literally several years to live on unless the United States wake up.
The time bomb is ticking.
With every second the disaster is coming closer and closer.
Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins.
This is it.
This is the last country of freedom and possibility.
unidentified
Okay, so what do we do?
What is your recommendation to the American people?
yuri bezmenov
Well, the immediate thing that comes to my mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of real patriotism, number one.
Number two, to explain them the real danger of socialist, communist, whatever, welfare state, big brother government.
If people will fail to grasp the impending danger of that development, nothing ever can help United States.
You may kiss goodbye to your freedom, including freedoms to homosexuals, to prison inmates.
All this freedom will vanish, evaporate in five seconds, including your precious lives.
The second thing, the moment at least part of the United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to force their government.
And I'm not talking about sending letters, signing petitions and all this beautiful noble activity.
I'm talking about forcing United States government to stop aiding communism.
Because there is no other problem more burning and urgent than to stop the Soviet military industrial complex from destroying whatever is left of the free world.
And it is very easy to do.
No credits, no technology, no money, no political or diplomatic recognition, and of course no such idiocy as grain deals to USSR. The Soviet people, 270 millions of Soviets, will be eternally thankful to you if you stop aiding a bunch of murderers who sit now in Kremlin and whom President Reagan respectfully calls government.
They do not govern anything, at least of all such complexity as the Soviet economy.
So basic, two very simple, maybe two simplistic answers or solutions, but nevertheless, they are the only solutions.
Educate yourself.
Understand what's going on around you.
You are not living at the time of peace.
You are in a state of war.
And you have precious little time to save yourself.
You don't have much time.
joe rogan
Wow.
I was expecting this from like the 80s.
1984. So what he's basically talking about was they embedded these kind of educators in place and they somehow or another were responsible for like putting psychological warfare on people.
That sounds hard to believe.
I mean, how could someone get through the process of becoming a PhD and all that stuff?
But what doesn't sound hard to believe is that they do it with social media, because they 100% do.
So this is not a new tactic that they devised.
The tactic of getting us to lose faith In our country, in our government, in our process, they've been doing that forever.
But they have a sophisticated way of doing it now through the internet.
brian simpson
It's crazy.
joe rogan
They have programs and they have people and they have farms where they just propagandize and do things.
Did I ever tell you about that?
There's a lady named Renee DiResta.
She's been on the podcast before and she researched this.
One of the things they found out when they were looking at these propaganda sites, the top 20 Christian sites on Facebook, 19 of them were run by Russian troll farms.
They were like in Macedonia or some shit.
There are all these propaganda farms, and they would organize conflicts, like they had like a Texas separatist group that they organized, and they had them meet right next to some Muslim group.
So they had a Muslim group across the street from the Texas separatist group.
brian simpson
Wow.
joe rogan
They do it on purpose.
They're all trying to initiate conflict.
And she was saying it was really funny because, like, I'm a big fan of memes.
I think memes are one of the more interesting forms of comedy that exists.
Like, you hear someone, like, every day my friends are sending me memes.
I've become, like, sick with it lately.
brian simpson
It's the evolution of the street joke.
joe rogan
It is like that because, like, man, who's writing these?
Because some of them, with the picture, they're so funny.
Look at this one.
This is like, this only could exist in this form with a picture similar to this with this caption.
When you nut fast and she cussing you out so you sit there like.
unidentified
I mean, how funny is that?
It's so funny.
joe rogan
I mean, through this pandemic, I've been obsessed with memes.
I've been getting so many people send me funny memes.
So many of these like text message chains are funny memes.
brian simpson
Yeah, they're good.
unidentified
They're good.
joe rogan
There's so many good pages.
Some of them are restricted.
Some of them are hard to find.
brian simpson
The pages?
joe rogan
Yeah, some of them are hard to find.
brian simpson
Some of them are thieves.
joe rogan
Oh, almost all of them are thieves.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the thing.
It's like, who is the guy?
It's like the street joke, like you were saying.
brian simpson
Yeah.
Well, some people steal jokes, but some people just, they just, you know, there were kids that were like raised on this.
joe rogan
Yes.
brian simpson
And it's just how they think.
joe rogan
They think in memes.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's a new form of comedy, right?
brian simpson
Oh, definitely.
Definitely.
joe rogan
Images with funny text.
jamie vernon
That's what cartoons were, though, for the 1800s, right?
joe rogan
I guess, yeah.
Kind of.
But part of the thing is that the photo's not supposed to be for that.
That's part of what's funny.
Like all the Greta Thunberg ones, I have like a hundred of those.
brian simpson
Yeah, because also, too, it's cultural in a way.
Because if you showed a Greta Thunberg meme to somebody in...
I don't know.
You know, somewhere where they wouldn't know who she was.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
The joke would really, it wouldn't really hit.
joe rogan
Exactly.
jamie vernon
It wouldn't make sense five years ago.
joe rogan
It wouldn't make sense.
brian simpson
It's like this shared, the memes are like this shared thing.
joe rogan
Well, it has to be something that everybody understands.
A thing.
Like who the person is or what the thing is.
brian simpson
But you know what, sometimes...
joe rogan
Look at this one.
We just had a fat line and you're waiting for your toilet paper story.
brian simpson
You know, these are...
Dude, I've had some that fucking...
There was one where...
I saw one where it was DMX. DMX's head on Professor X's body.
And it was like, y'all gonna make me use my mind.
And I swear, I laughed at it like 50 times that day.
jamie vernon
Joe, you've become big in the golf meme community.
joe rogan
Nice!
How did I get it?
jamie vernon
They use you a lot.
joe rogan
Nice.
jamie vernon
Multiple times.
brian simpson
Really?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I see them.
I mean, I follow those around.
joe rogan
Nice.
Well, as someone who doesn't play golf, I talk about golf a lot.
jamie vernon
No, so it's again, it's not what you're talking about golf.
It's everything that's on golf related and they make it seem like golf.
You were talking about how many specials you had one time and you're counting on one, two, three, like that.
You're counting on your fingers and the meme is like, how many strokes did I get on that hole?
I don't know, one, two, three.
brian simpson
But you know what?
Sometimes some people just become, it's just a face they're making or something, and it's just a random person that doesn't have shit to do with shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, always.
brian simpson
And you see them later, and they do shit where they catch up with them.
joe rogan
Oh, pushing one out in the pro shop bathroom 30 seconds before my seat time.
brian simpson
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
Send me that one.
That one's funny.
Yeah, there's some funny ones, man.
It's an interesting form of comedy.
I bet a lot of it's created by people just sitting in the cubicle, bored as fuck, at work.
How much work gets done at work for a lot of people?
brian simpson
Very little.
joe rogan
Because a lot of people are online, fucking around.
brian simpson
Have you heard of this book, Bullshit Jobs?
joe rogan
No.
brian simpson
I forget who it's by, but he talks about that.
There's so many jobs created in America that don't need to exist.
Most of the time we spend looking busy, because our job isn't important.
It's not necessary at all, and we all know it deep down.
Like, if you're doing a job that's not necessary, you know it.
And it fucks with your self-esteem and everything.
Like, most people aren't doing shit at work, or they're going out of their way to not do shit, you know, to look like they're doing shit.
joe rogan
Well, if you don't have a job that requires you to do shit, and you're just unsupervised, and you don't even like your job, and you have a fucking computer.
Like, how many people are posting on Twitter all day while they're at work, just checking Twitter and posting it?
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Constantly.
joe rogan
Like, if you have a phone at work and no one's watching you...
jamie vernon
Computer?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
People that play video games all night are supposed to be watching shit.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sure.
brian simpson
But see, you know what part of the problem is, is that we're in this new age of technology and efficiency, but we're still like two generations back in terms of what but we're still like two generations back in terms of what work culture So it's not necessary for anybody to be in the office for eight hours.
But it's all these old school owners and managers that are like, I need you in the office for eight hours.
Even though we spent these last couple decades like In putting all this technology in the workplace that makes that not necessary.
joe rogan
Well, definitely not if you are responsible and disciplined and you work at home.
You get more done because you don't have to commute.
brian simpson
Yeah, and there's people who have employees now.
They were forced to work from home during the pandemic.
They can do their job perfectly fine.
There's no reason for them to be in the office.
And their boss is still like, yeah, but I like having people in the office.
joe rogan
Yeah, there are people that are like that, right?
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I guess it doesn't depend on what you're doing, though.
There's some shit you'd want to be in.
Like, if you're writing on a sitcom, you've got to be in the room, right?
brian simpson
Yeah, I agree.
joe rogan
You have to be in the writer's room.
brian simpson
Certain jobs are required.
But is accounts receivable?
That doesn't have to be in that building.
unidentified
No.
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
Why would it?
You could get everything done with a direct message.
brian simpson
But there's this weird thing of like, I don't want you to get over it.
It's like, I'd rather you work four hours and me pay you the same.
So maybe now I'm paying you, you know, 50 bucks an hour or something so your check's the same.
I'd rather have you work half the hours and do your job efficiently than have you just sitting around for extra time for no reason.
joe rogan
Don't you think a lot of people like being the leader of a team?
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
One on my team in the building.
brian simpson
Yeah, but we've learned a long time ago, it's the difference between being a leader and being put in charge.
joe rogan
That's true too, but maybe if you're not around people, they don't get it.
Maybe they think you've got to absorb the ethic of this company.
You've got to be hustling on the floor.
The morale's got to be high.
They have those team building things where they go to Hawaii together and they all fucking snorkel and shit.
That's a big thing with a lot of these companies, team building.
brian simpson
Yeah, we'll spend a hundred grand on a fishing trip, but we won't give nobody a raise.
joe rogan
But I think they think there's, like, a value to it.
I think they've put, like, a psychological value on the idea that they can, like, give them something fun to do.
Like, I was in Hawaii recently.
I was in Maui, and there was a whole group like that.
A whole group of people that worked for this company, and they all had, like, stickers on their fucking shirts.
They're walking around in Hawaii with a sticker on their shirt that says, like, hi, I'm Bob.
Like, that kind of shit.
Because they have to.
And with, like, you know, like, whatever the logo of the company was.
I'm like, that is bizarre.
You're on a trip...
And you're on vacation with the people you work with, but you gotta wear a sticker.
brian simpson
It's nonsense.
You know what makes people happy?
And you know this, right?
We all have miserable family and stuff.
People that have jobs that they hate, people that have jobs that they love.
And for me, it's like, look, people need purpose.
They need a sense of purpose and they need to feel like they're being fairly compensated.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
That's all.
Fuck that trip.
Fuck the pizza party.
Every job I've ever hated, it's...
Well, no, that's not true either because I was making good money at that job.
Oh, no, but I didn't have a sense of purpose.
I was like, I could teach a fucking monkey how to do this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you're a guy that wants to do things, though.
Some people don't want to do things.
Like, some people don't have ideas that they really want to implement.
They don't have, like, a dream that they want to chase.
They just want to work.
There's, like, different kinds of people out there.
unidentified
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
You know?
brian simpson
Yeah.
I was in the service with a motherfucker like that.
And I forget his name off the top of my head, but he was one of these motherfuckers that was, like, he was raised on a farm.
Like, for real.
And he just had to fucking work every day.
He's the only person I've ever met like this in my life, where it's like, you know, it's lunchtime, and we got an hour, and he spends 15 minutes eating his lunch, standing up, and then goes back to work.
He's one of those type of people that just loves to work.
He feels like shit if he doesn't, you know, hard days working.
I'm like, yeah, he's built different than me.
joe rogan
Yeah, some people like it almost like as a physical exercise activity.
They like a hard day of work chucking hay at the farm, you know?
Those motherfuckers are strong as shit, too.
brian simpson
Yeah, they hard, man.
joe rogan
Those people that throw hay around, shake hands are one of those dudes.
brian simpson
Been doing this since they was a kid.
I went to...
joe rogan
Farmer strength.
brian simpson
When I was in college, I was hard up for money, and my roommate, his parents were looking for like...
His parents were...
They took care of animals.
So they had like a small farm, you know, where they had like six cows, you know, like 40 dogs.
It was one of those type of places.
But he was a farm animal veterinarian, his father.
But they had a little property and they wanted me, so just so I could make a little extra money, they pulled me over there to...
I was supposed to chop down weeds for them.
It was these crazy vines that you have to fucking beat them down with chains and chop them up.
You know what I mean?
And I worked for these motherfuckers for one day.
And they were like, we're good.
We're good.
We don't need you to come back.
You know what I mean?
No, because the first day, I bust my ass.
And they were like, good job.
And the second day, I was like, my body didn't have it.
I just didn't have anything left.
And this dude told me he grew up doing this.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you gotta build up to that.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Physical labor like that is like working out.
It really is.
I had a summer that I worked building a construction ramp, like the wheelchair ramp, rather, for nights at Columbus Hall.
So for the whole summer, for whatever length of time, I only think I kept the job for a month.
I had to carry cement bags and pressure-treated lumber the whole summer.
So it was 100 degrees outside, whatever the fuck it was, 90 degrees outside, and I've got cement bags on my shoulder.
I'm hiking them up this fucking ramp and carrying pressure-treated lumber, and pressure-treated lumber is chemically treated lumber, and those splinters, you get infected, and they're fucking nasty.
They hurt like hell.
Like, and so I'm constantly carrying, all summer long, and I realize, like, oh, I could get stuck here.
Like, this could be my life.
Like, if you're a laborer, and this is, like, what you do from now on, this is your whole day, every day.
And I would get out of work, and I'd try to work out, and I had nothing.
I had nothing.
I tried to hit the bag, and I was like, eh, eh.
I was just exhausted.
You can't just go right into that.
And I was in pretty good shape.
You can't just go right into that.
That's work.
brian simpson
You can't even wash your back.
You just...
joe rogan
And you can fuck things up too, man.
That's how people fuck up their backs.
If you don't have the muscle stability in your core and you're lifting heavy shit all the time, all of a sudden, you could fuck yourself, especially if you don't know how to do it right.
brian simpson
That's gonna be tough.
joe rogan
Hard labor, man.
That is a fucking rough way to make a life.
brian simpson
Yeah.
It's up there with fighting.
joe rogan
Fighting's exciting if you win, right?
If you're good.
It's a skill.
You could develop it.
You could be very clever.
You could be like Floyd Mayweather.
You rarely get hit.
You reach the top of the top.
brian simpson
Well, you can do that in boxing.
You can't really do that in MMA. Like, never get hit.
joe rogan
Not, well, something's gonna happen.
If you fight long enough, something's gonna happen.
brian simpson
I feel like every victory take a piece out of you.
joe rogan
Some of them do, yeah.
Well, that's the difference between Floyd and everybody else, in my opinion.
When people talk about the best boxer ever, I'm like, man, it's hard to make an argument against Floyd Mayweather.
Because he's the only guy that never really got fucked up.
He only got hit hard like three or four times ever.
brian simpson
And the thing is, you look at He was in his prime for longer than anybody else.
He never really had a falling off period.
joe rogan
He's the best at not getting hit.
brian simpson
Everyone always made excuses about how he fought somebody when they were young.
He fought a dude when he was 40. Floyd was 40. And they're like, oh, he's cherry picking.
joe rogan
Of course he is.
brian simpson
He's fighting.
Well, yeah!
He's 40 years old!
joe rogan
Well, not just that.
Every boxer wants to do that.
It's a smart thing to do.
Up until you get to a certain point.
And then you have to fight the other champions.
But it's a smart way to maximize your money.
It's a smart way to get more ring experience.
And, you know, it's a smart way to keep defending your title.
Like, a lot of guys would rather fight a guy when he's slightly over the hill.
And with Floyd and Manny Pacquiao, I think he was pretty clever.
Because, look, Manny Pacquiao, when he was young, was a real problem.
His hand speed was spectacular.
His cardio was spectacular.
His punching power was ridiculous.
He was a real fucking problem.
And Floyd played that nice and slow.
Nice and slow.
When he caught Manny, it was when Manny was, you know, he'd been knocked out by Barrera.
He wasn't the same Manny anymore.
brian simpson
And then he also lose to, um, who's his rival that Floyd made that boy look ordinary?
I can't remember his fucking name.
joe rogan
Wasn't that, um, who?
Oh, Juan Manuel Marquez.
brian simpson
Yeah, Marquez.
joe rogan
Yeah, I said Barrera.
I meant Marquez.
I fucked that up.
Yeah, Juan Manuel Marquez, he knocked out Manny in the last fight.
They had three fights together.
I think they split decisions and then he knocked him out.
I forget.
But anyway, Floyd just boxed the pants off of him.
brian simpson
Yeah, he made him look real silly.
joe rogan
Well, Floyd does that to everybody.
Floyd did that to Canelo.
Floyd does that to everybody.
brian simpson
Yeah, and he fought young Canelo.
Now, Canelo, not maybe not Canelo now.
joe rogan
No, definitely not Canelo now.
Canelo learned from him.
brian simpson
But I still believe he would beat him.
joe rogan
I think so too.
It's hard now because Canelo is a tank now.
He's so big.
You'd have to get him down to a manageable weight because he was 152 when he fought Floyd.
Floyd was very smart.
He made him cut down below the 154 limit because he knew he struggled even to get to 154. So Floyd made him cut an extra two pounds.
brian simpson
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
It was very sneaky.
brian simpson
Yeah, he knows all the little tricks, what gloves to use, all of that.
joe rogan
Of course, all of the above, all of the above.
He'll make sure you, because he's had fragile hands in the past, so he makes sure he'll use a glove that has a little more padding in the front.
The same amount of weight, but a little bit more padding for his hands.
Because there's gloves that are puncher's gloves.
Like Cleto Reyes, these Mexican gloves.
They're like a firmer.
There's more, there's like the padding is not as smushy.
And then other gloves are kind of smushy.
They're the same weight, but they're not the same density.
Maybe they're not made the same way.
brian simpson
But they both have to fight with the exact same gloves.
joe rogan
Well, Floyd would negotiate that.
Floyd would make sure you fought with the gloves that he wanted you to fight with.
Everything he did was to his advantage.
brian simpson
The UFC doesn't do that, right?
Everyone has to do something.
joe rogan
Everyone has the same gloves.
They fight with UFC certified and approved gloves.
That's it.
And they're not the best gloves.
The best gloves are made by Trevor Whitman.
Trevor Whitman is a guy, his company's called Onyx.
He makes the best bag gloves.
He makes the best shin and instep pads, like the best material in terms of like the density of the foam.
His stuff is the shit.
And he came up with his, and he's a top flight coach.
He coached Justin Gaethje, Rose Namajunas, Kambaro Usman, top, top flight coach.
And he came up with this MMA glove that's way better.
First of all, it curves the hand instead of like extends.
So the eye pokes are not going to be as frequent.
It makes your hand that naturally.
Because some guys have said to me that when they're fighting...
Especially like, you know, you've gone a few rounds, your hands are tired.
The gloves are actually almost trying to open your hand.
Like it takes an effort to close your fist.
As opposed to like right now, there's no effort to close my fist.
But with those gloves, you kind of have to make a little bit of an effort.
And then also you have the padding of the, you know, the hand wraps and all that stuff.
So it's kind of, your hands almost want to extend.
But Trevor's gloves are already turned over.
Like, your hand is turning to a knuckle position naturally.
And then on top of that, the density of the foam is way better.
I think it'll have way less hand breaks.
brian simpson
So why won't the UFC... I don't know.
joe rogan
That's why I'm talking about it.
brian simpson
Trying to get off their ass.
joe rogan
It's the best.
They're the best gloves.
We should only have these gloves.
So, I mean, there was like some sort of a, like, they were trying to make a deal and they didn't do it.
That's...
Is that his glove?
Yeah, that's a white one.
I have his other stuff.
They're black.
See if you can go to his website.
But that's a good...
jamie vernon
I do.
Every time I go to the website, it really just has shown the boxing stuff a lot.
joe rogan
Well, his boxing stuff is awesome, too.
His gloves are the shit.
They're really, really good.
But that glove that I have on my hand is way superior to any other glove that I've ever felt.
The Pride glove is pretty good, but I think that's better.
And you could still grapple with it.
You could still do everything with it.
I use his bag gloves, too.
He's got fucking amazing, amazing stuff.
brian simpson
Yeah, I guess, yeah, man.
It's always money.
It's always a money thing.
joe rogan
Maybe.
I don't know.
Who the fuck knows?
Maybe it's too expensive to build.
I don't know.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
I just, like, we should use the best shit.
We're the best organization.
We use the best shit.
That's the best shit.
brian simpson
Does anyone use the Whitman gloves?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I mean, Trevor's, you know, he's a mad genius.
He figured it out.
You want some coffee?
brian simpson
Oh, no, no, no.
joe rogan
No?
brian simpson
I thought it was whiskey.
joe rogan
Oh, you want some whiskey?
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
We have whiskey.
All you have to do is ask, sir.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Can we get a glass and some ice?
Glasses and some ice?
Anyway, it's just Floyd was smart enough to decide everything in his favor.
You know, I mean, he's just clever as fuck.
He always pretended he was going to fight an MMA fight with Conor.
We'll fight a boxing match first, then I'll fight you in your shit.
Like, please!
brian simpson
No way.
joe rogan
No fucking way is he going to do that.
brian simpson
That's a whole other world.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a whole other world.
That's a different thing.
Like, most boxers cannot compete with MMA fighters.
But, you know, a good, decent MMA striker can go a few rounds.
As long as the guy's not a murderer like a Mike Tyson in his prime.
brian simpson
Oh, right.
joe rogan
They can go a few rounds.
They're gonna be outclassed, but go a few rounds.
But a guy who doesn't do MMA, who fights an MMA fighter, you're getting fucked up.
You're gonna get your legs kicked out from under you quick.
brian simpson
Yeah, you're gonna get taken down, you're gonna get choked out.
joe rogan
The big thing is leg kicks.
That's the big one.
Because even if the guy's a striker, but he's a leg kicker, they can kick you from a distance, man.
You can't get close enough to punch them, and they're kicking your calves out from under you.
They're kicking your thighs apart.
You can't move on them right anymore.
You're trying to...
Salute, my brother.
brian simpson
Salute.
joe rogan
Always good to see you.
brian simpson
Same, bro.
joe rogan
I'm very excited about this weekend.
brian simpson
You know, it's funny, so you bring up the lick, because I was just watching Izzy and Jon Jones highlights on the way here.
joe rogan
Izzy and Jon Jones?
brian simpson
Yeah, just watching their highlights.
Not against each other, but just watching how...
Because they are the masters of...
joe rogan
Distance.
brian simpson
Distance, yeah.
I think Jon Jones has a little more violent intention behind...
You know what I mean?
Because he's a little more of a psycho.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brian simpson
Because when you watch...
I'm talking about the dominant, dominant Jon Jones.
He would hit motherfuckers.
He didn't care if the hit killed you.
You know?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, like when he stopped Daniel Cormier.
brian simpson
Yeah, some people don't have that.
They don't have that killer instinct where it's like, I don't care what this does.
joe rogan
Izzy's got that, too, though.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Izzy's got that.
Izzy is just the most sophisticated of the strikers.
If you watch striking, if you're a person who likes striking and you like setups and stuff, he's doing something very different because he's getting guys to move a certain way.
He's reading you.
Like you see when Izzy's moving around, he's reading you.
He's seeing if he can come forward with the right hand.
He's seeing if you're looking at that right hand, he kicks your leg.
He's going to move out of the range of your power.
brian simpson
It's like he's thinking in 4D or something.
joe rogan
He's downloading all your data.
And he can see weaknesses in people.
A great example is Paulo Costa.
Paulo Costa steamrolled everybody.
He was just smashing people.
He's a giant dude.
They called him the eraser.
He would just move forward and just fucking...
And Izzy just...
Picked him apart.
Made him look foolish.
And by the end of the first round, you could see he was baffled.
Like, he was fucked.
Because he knew, like, I can't hit this dude.
And he's standing right in front of me.
And he would swing at Izzy, and Izzy would be just out of range, and then he'd make him pay.
Just out of range to make him pay.
And then after he stopped him, he humped him.
brian simpson
Yeah, you know where I learned a lot?
But I watched those...
joe rogan
Do you see that?
Do you see that after he stopped him, he humps him?
Watch this.
brian simpson
Yeah, because he was talking all that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was talking all that shit.
But watch this.
One, two.
brian simpson
That's why I love Izzy, man, because he don't play that shit.
joe rogan
Well, he's just so slick, man.
For a guy like me who's been interested in striking his whole life, seeing a guy like this that was a top-flight kickboxer make his way into MMA, I reached out to Izzy before he ever fought in the UFC. I saw him fight in kickboxing matches, and I reached out to him on Instagram way back in the day.
And he was telling me that he's taking some fights in China, and that he's like, he's gonna come to the UFC, but he's gonna do it the right way.
He did it the right way.
He was smart.
Like, some guys jump in, but they don't have a ground game yet.
They jump in, they don't have defense yet, but they just feel like, oh, I'm gonna learn a few things, I'm just gonna use my kickboxing.
Then you fight some fucking wrestler.
Some dude who hits you with that power double, and boom!
And you feel that weight and pressure, like, oh shit, I don't know how to handle this.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of guys get fucked up that way.
brian simpson
You run into a Khabib and get fucking murdered.
joe rogan
Exactly.
You run into some Dagestani assassin and you're fucked.
But Izzy did it the right way.
brian simpson
Well, I like watching the...
You know the Morning Combat guys?
Yes.
joe rogan
Luke Thomas and who's the other dude?
Luke's been on the podcast before.
He's got that dude with him.
brian simpson
So he made me understand...
Just how much on another level is he is from everybody else because he breaks it, you know, he'll have a two three hour video He's like, you know telling you the Brian Campbell.
joe rogan
Yeah, yes, Brian Campbell.
brian simpson
Yeah, they broke it down one time and I was like, oh wow this motherfucker is because I you know because I'm not a big I'm not a I don't have the experience in fighting that you have right so I was like There needs to be a John Madden of MMA, you know?
At first, I mean, I always liked watching Izzy, but I didn't get the chess match that he's playing.
That other people just aren't...
They're not even aware that there's another game being played other than swinging and kicking, right?
He's on some other shit, man.
joe rogan
Well, the way he describes it is like a lot of people are just button smashers.
Like if you're playing a game, trying to make something happen.
He's setting things up.
He's setting things up.
And there's other guys that set things up.
And that's one of the things that makes this weekend so interesting.
It's because he's on the same card as Alex Pereira.
And Alex Pereira is...
brian simpson
Beat him.
joe rogan
He knocked him out.
He KO'd him with a left hook in a kickboxing match.
And he beat him once by unanimous decision, and then the rematch, he KO'd Izzy.
You know, and he's only fought twice in the UFC, but he's won both fights, and now he's fighting the No.
4 ranked Sean Strickland this weekend.
It's very interesting.
Because they're basically trying to fast-track him into a fight with Izzy.
brian simpson
I'm sorry, man.
You know what?
You're going to have to show me somebody to beat him.
joe rogan
Well, let me show you somebody.
I'm not saying that he could beat him, but Alex Pereira is one of the scariest fucking strikers on planet Earth.
He's this dude from Brazil.
He's a bad motherfucker.
And this is when he fought Izzy.
I think this is...
I don't know if this is the first fight or the second fight, but it was a real good fight back and forth.
But then this.
brian simpson
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, he's got that kind of power.
But go to Alex Pereira's highlights.
That said, the Izzy from back then is not the Izzy of today.
He's way better now.
Way better now.
Alex Pereira, who was primarily a kickboxer, two-division world champion in glory, now he's made his way over to MMA. This dude fucks people up.
And these are with big gloves on.
He's one of the most vicious knockout artists in Glory history.
Like, unusual power.
Like, almost everybody gets starched.
And the dude's crazy durable, too.
Like, he gets into wars with people and...
brian simpson
Can they not throw kicks?
joe rogan
Oh, they can, but he's...
Yeah, I mean, he's got kick knockouts, too, but there's a left-hand that KO'd Dustin Jacoby.
I mean, he's a bad motherfucker.
brian simpson
Look at that.
joe rogan
Look at that left hook.
brian simpson
Answer me this, Joe.
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Dude.
brian simpson
What changes...
Besides the obvious, from the boxing ring to the octagon?
joe rogan
More room, for sure.
No corners.
So cutting off people is different.
Cutting off people in a boxing ring is...
There's a little more room for...
You could box someone into a corner.
You have an angle, right?
With the octagon, it's a little bit...
A little bit easier to move around, around the edges, but even maybe more importantly, there's a lot more space to fight in.
Like, they're a lot bigger than this.
So you got the octagon, a lot of, you know, you got a lot of room for shit.
There's a lot of, let's say the smaller octagon is like what they use at the Apex Center, which is really interesting, because you see like heavyweights in that.
Like when Francis Ngannou fought Stipe Miocic when he won the title, it was in the little octagon.
And I'm like, man, Stipeck's gonna have a hard time getting the fuck away from him in that little octagon because it's quite a bit smaller.
brian simpson
How much little?
Okay.
joe rogan
So look at the difference.
So the UFC's octagon sides, so it's 750 square feet to 400 square feet.
And that's just a normal boxing ring.
Boxing rings vary, which is interesting.
Like sometimes they're a little bigger and smaller.
Sometimes for a fight, they'll make a smaller ring to favor a slugger, or they'll make a bigger ring to favor a boxer.
They'll put that in the contract.
Like, I want a 28-foot ring.
They'll come up with shit that they can put in the contract.
brian simpson
Why did the UFC decide to go with a...
Why do they have two different sizes?
joe rogan
It's a good question.
The smaller one is because the smaller venue, the octagon that they have in the apex is smaller.
See, the smaller one is 48 meters and the other one is 69 meters square.
So it's 20% wider and 44% larger, the full-size octagon is.
So when they use the small one, like for big guys like Ngannou, man, there's nowhere to run.
In a small ring, a boxing ring with a slugger, that's kind of the same thing.
brian simpson
And can the fighters request that with the size?
Or do they have to agree on it?
joe rogan
MMA fighters?
No.
Unless you say, I'm never fighting in the Apex Center.
If you make that a part of your contract, you never have to fight in the Apex Center.
But what if there's going to be a world championship fight?
They had world championship fights in the Apex Center during the pandemic.
brian simpson
And I'd imagine...
I'd imagine telling Dana White that there's certain shit you ain't gonna do.
That's not gonna fly.
joe rogan
No.
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They've got a solid organization.
joe rogan
It's a crazy fucking sport, man.
It really is.
It's a crazy sport.
And when you see a guy like Izzy that's so dominant and so good and so clever, you want to see a guy like Alex Pereira.
That's the guy that tests him.
But the dude he's fighting, this guy Sean Strickland, is a bad motherfucker.
He's no joke.
He's a tough, tough dude, and he's been beating everybody at 185 pounds.
brian simpson
I thought Izzy was fighting Cannoneer.
joe rogan
No, Izzy is.
Alex Pereira is fighting Sean Strickland.
Alex Pereira is fighting Sean Strickland, and Sean Strickland is very dangerous.
He's a No.
4 contender.
He's very good.
And he also has a solid ground game, too.
And if he gets Pereira down on the ground, he has the potential to submit him.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
Can you pull up the card?
Because I'm also excited about...
joe rogan
Max Holloway and Volkanowski.
brian simpson
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
That's going to be wild.
That is going to be wild.
Those guys are so razor close.
The card is fantastic.
Look at this.
brian simpson
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
Just the final three fights.
brian simpson
Just those four fights right there.
joe rogan
Yeah, Barbarina versus Robbie Lawler before that.
But those fights, like that dude, Sean Strickland, he's a dangerous motherfucker.
brian simpson
Didn't somebody just cancel?
Sean O'Malley and Pedro Munoz.
No, was it Holly Holmes?
joe rogan
No, Misha Tate.
brian simpson
Oh, Misha Tate.
joe rogan
Yeah, so this is a fantastic card.
They're going to start off with Pedro Munoz and Sean O'Malley, motherfucker.
That's a great fight, too.
brian simpson
I can't believe that's the beginning.
joe rogan
That's the beginning.
That's the first fight on the card in the pay-per-view.
brian simpson
Sean O'Malley only has one loss?
joe rogan
Yeah, Cheeto Vera.
brian simpson
Didn't he broke something, right?
joe rogan
Well, he kicked him in his calf and his calf went numb.
His toe, apparently, according to Sean, dug right into the nerve of his calf.
It's just like a freak thing and his calf stopped working.
jamie vernon
He claims he's undefeated, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's hilarious.
brian simpson
Yeah, he knows what's up, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, Cheeto Vera's a bad motherfucker.
But it's part of his marketing.
brian simpson
You know what I'm realizing, too, about this shit?
It's just like show business, where there's more to it than just The talent.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
brian simpson
Some people don't realize that you also...
The more entertaining you are, that's part of it.
I hear Chell Sonnen talk about it all the time.
That 30 seconds after...
When you're interviewing people in the ring, some of them don't realize...
You need to be calling out the next guy.
All of that shit matters, you know?
joe rogan
How good you are on the mic.
Like, Michael Chandler's fantastic on the mic.
brian simpson
He's amazing.
joe rogan
He's amazing.
brian simpson
Yeah, it's like, you can't be afraid to be controversial.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no.
He obviously has, like, things ready.
brian simpson
Yeah, because take Cody, for example.
I mean, not Cody.
Who had a rivalry with Usman?
Colby.
Colby Covington.
Colby Covington.
I mean, even though he's still one of the best guys in the world, but he talked his way into fighting for a title.
joe rogan
Well, he talked his way into this pro wrestling heel type character that people want to see lose, but want to see fight.
brian simpson
Yeah, I love it.
joe rogan
Floyd did that too.
Floyd was very smart with that whole Money Mayweather thing.
He got people angry at him.
They wanted to see him lose.
How many people buy Floyd Mayweather pay-per-views just because they want to see him lose?
brian simpson
Probably more than half.
joe rogan
It's a lot.
brian simpson
Yeah, it's like people that hate listen to Howard Stern.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, back in the day, right?
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
The movie Private Parts, we talked about that.
Yeah, there's a lot of people who hate listening.
brian simpson
Well, now he's completely different.
joe rogan
It's weird, right?
brian simpson
It is a little strange.
Because I don't listen every day, but then I come back and listen, I'm like, oh, this isn't.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a different guy now.
brian simpson
Yeah, well, I guess I don't hold that against nobody.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you want to change.
I mean, you are who you are.
brian simpson
That's growth.
joe rogan
It's better to be who you are than to, like, have to live up to some old version of yourself.
brian simpson
Yeah, because I think some people think their fans expect that of them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
You know?
joe rogan
Well, I mean, some people, you know, some people are captured by their fans.
brian simpson
Some people that are who they are.
But it works.
Like, oh, here's a person.
You know how people always give them burnt shit about taking their shirt off?
joe rogan
Yes.
brian simpson
I say, keep taking your shirt off, big man.
joe rogan
Who gives him shit?
Why do they care?
brian simpson
Just other comics talk shit because it's not comedy.
joe rogan
Right, but why would anybody care?
brian simpson
Joe, I was just on his Fully Loaded tour with him, and I'm telling you, it's fucking amazing.
He can do two things that other comics can't really do.
He has that pop because the audience wants, they want to see it.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
So the moment when he takes off his shirt, it's something that the fans, they just lose their fucking mind.
And he can do, so look, I was with him in, we were in Lawrenceville, Georgia.
And his wife and kids came.
And his kids have never seen him perform.
Oh, wow.
They weren't interested.
Him and his wife had agreed.
They couldn't hear a machine story of age.
So his daughters are there.
He brings them on stage to tell the machine story.
So this is another thing that I realized.
He's taking the superpower from musicians because we don't get to repeat shit.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
He can tell the machine story whenever the fuck he wants.
joe rogan
He's running with flip flops on to go do comedy.
brian simpson
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
He's got flip flops on.
Look at that.
Who the fuck does stand up in flip flops?
For real.
brian simpson
And those are his brand of flip-flops.
joe rogan
Who the fuck does stand up in flip-flops other than Burt Kreischer?
brian simpson
Yeah.
In fact, I have a pair of Burt Kreischer flip-flops on me.
joe rogan
Look at this motherfucker.
brian simpson
Yeah, this moment.
Watch him fucking lose it.
joe rogan
So he's gonna take his shirt off.
unidentified
Look at that they're all standing up with their arms in the air.
joe rogan
How many guys in the audience take their shirts off in unison?
brian simpson
Oh, it happens all the time.
joe rogan
In solidarity.
brian simpson
And here's the other thing.
At any point, he can go...
When I was 22 years old, I got involved in the restaurant.
And people...
It's a story they've heard a hundred times.
And they still, tell us!
Tell us, Bird, please!
They know the story, but it's like, he can tell it whenever he wants.
joe rogan
You know, he told that story here for the very first time.
brian simpson
Really?
joe rogan
And I told him to tell it on stage.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
That makes sense.
joe rogan
During a podcast.
When was that?
unidentified
2012?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
11?
brian simpson
Wow, that's not that long ago.
joe rogan
Not that long ago.
brian simpson
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Yeah, it's a good story?
joe rogan
That was back when Burt was still on the Travel Channel.
He had to watch his P's and Q's on the Travel Channel.
We got him to quit.
He was in this great job, but if he wasn't as hilarious as he is, it would be a great job.
But it's like, I know you're good at that.
I know you're having a good time with that.
I know you're making money with that, but you'd be way better just being a stand-up.
Like, you're a funny dude, and you're not doing it enough, because you're off doing all this other stuff.
And he's like, fuck, you're right.
brian simpson
That was good advice.
joe rogan
Well, I knew it.
I just knew it.
And he's also a hustler.
Like, Burt hustles.
It's not just that he's...
brian simpson
He's a sneaky genius in the way that, like...
He can walk into a room and go, oh, that would be a good shot.
That's a good promo.
Do it this way.
Make it that color.
He just knows how to...
He's constantly promoting.
joe rogan
Constantly.
Constantly.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's also funny.
He's a funny dude.
brian simpson
He's funny.
joe rogan
He's hilarious on podcasts.
brian simpson
Dude, he took us...
The Fully Loaded Tour was fun as hell.
He took us...
So we did a show at the Bristol Speedway in Bristol, Tennessee...
So the show was on the drag track, so the Briscoe Dragway, I think it's called.
But right next to it was the NASCAR track.
And they put us in this pace car and fucking...
How fast were you going?
I think we peaked out at 122 or something like that.
And it's a real short track, like a half a mile.
joe rogan
Oh, you're in a fucking regular car with no roof.
Fuck that.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So that's a pace car.
brian simpson
That's a pace car, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
Fuck.
Dude, I do not appreciate this.
unidentified
Not in a convertible.
brian simpson
Yeah, dude, he gets like inches from the wall.
joe rogan
Fuck that, dude.
That's a convertible.
That flips.
No more Bryan Simpson.
brian simpson
See, at this point...
So not yet, but when we're up near the top, that's three stories above...
Like right here, that's three stories above everybody else.
unidentified
Really?
brian simpson
Yeah.
It's crazy to think, because the car's almost sideways.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
No shit.
brian simpson
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
You gotta do that fast.
brian simpson
No, he said that the pros are going into those turns at 155. 30 miles an hour faster than what we were doing.
joe rogan
But it's a different kind of car.
brian simpson
It's a different kind of car, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, the car's set up to go one way.
Set up to take a left turn.
brian simpson
Speed.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's an oddly American sport.
brian simpson
Yeah, and you know what?
It's one of those things that I never really appreciated until I did that.
joe rogan
It's fucking hard.
brian simpson
It's hard.
I know that I couldn't.
joe rogan
But isn't it oddly American that it's just so simple?
Just go around in a circle?
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like, the Europeans, they're into Formula One.
They're not into NASCAR. That's an oddly American pastime.
Am I correct about that?
I don't think, uh, is NASCAR... Exactly correct, but...
The Europeans, they want turns.
They want, like, strategy.
brian simpson
And they're into that fucking other shit, with the boxcars, or not boxcars, what do you call it?
Like the Grand Prix?
jamie vernon
Rally.
brian simpson
Rally.
joe rogan
Oh, when they go in the dirt.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian simpson
Those are wild.
They're into that shit, too.
joe rogan
Those are weird when you got the guy next to you and he's reading off of a notebook because he's got to tell you right in 20, left in 30, I guess.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
He knows the course.
brian simpson
You need a co-pilot.
joe rogan
Yeah, because you need to know when to brake to hit a turn and how hard the turn is.
brian simpson
That's insane.
joe rogan
I don't think they get a chance to run it before they do it, do they?
brian simpson
I don't know.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Because I would think part of whether or not you could win it, it would be like you figuring out the course, that would be part of the fun of it.
Because you're on the dirt in a four-wheel drive or like an off-road Porsche.
brian simpson
You know what I'm shocked is it more popular here is that Gymkhana shit.
You ever watch that?
joe rogan
What's Gymkhana?
brian simpson
It's like, and I might be pronouncing it wrong, but it's like They're racing, but they're sliding around shit.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like a drifting thing.
brian simpson
Yeah, Ken Block does a lot of this shit, but it's like this shit is so dangerous.
joe rogan
Well, he's a wizard at that shit.
brian simpson
He's unbelievable.
joe rogan
And these cars that he has built, they're special built for that.
Look, they're shutting streets down so he can do this.
I mean, this is not like a normal scenario where he's just driving.
Look at that fucking car.
brian simpson
And he's coming within inches of...
joe rogan
Yeah, look at him.
Give me some volume on this.
unidentified
That car sounds fucking crazy.
joe rogan
So there's people that are here sitting there while he's doing that.
brian simpson
Yep.
joe rogan
Oh, these are just carts.
There's no people in there.
Oh, he hit it.
brian simpson
Yeah, wow.
I don't think I've ever seen him hit anything.
joe rogan
Look at that fucking car, man.
My God, that thing's amazing.
jamie vernon
Can you tell what it is?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's a 65 Mustang.
See if I'm right.
unidentified
God damn, look at that thing.
Ha ha ha ha!
joe rogan
That guy's out of his fucking mind.
Look how close he's getting to these poles.
unidentified
I think that car has something like a thousand horsepower.
joe rogan
Look at the engine poking out of the hood.
brian simpson
This is insane.
jamie vernon
Alright.
joe rogan
That's some need for speed type shit.
That's the real Fast and the Furious.
What year is that car?
Yeah, that guy.
But that's not a normal driver.
brian simpson
No, no.
He's...
I mean, he's the best.
I mean, I think they have competitions.
I think he's like the best in the world.
joe rogan
You're right.
65?
Yeah.
That thing's the shit.
That's a beautiful shape.
Look at that.
Goddamn.
You know, that car when it first came out was like a secretary's car.
Yeah, you look at the old photos of, like, people standing in front of Mustangs.
It's like a ladies' car.
And then somewhere along the line, it became this beast of a car by, like, 1969. By 1969, they're, you know, they have the Shelby GT500. They have these...
See, look at that.
Presenting the unexpected.
The new Ford Mustang.
There's a lady.
It's like a pink...
It's almost like an off-white pinkish.
Maybe that's just...
unidentified
Tiffany.
jamie vernon
Tiffany Pink.
joe rogan
Is it?
jamie vernon
It got a Tiffany Award for Excellence, it says.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at that.
Tiffany Award for Excellence.
But that was what it used to look like.
And then, as time went on, they started getting more and more rugged.
If you look at an old, like not a Fastback, but an old 65 Mustang...
Eh, a little boring.
A little boring.
Compared to other things in 1965 with the Corvette.
That was a sports car.
brian simpson
They sold a million Mustangs.
joe rogan
Damn.
Millionth Mustangs tale.
So I wonder what year that is.
That's by the time they figured out the Fastback.
jamie vernon
They saw 65s.
joe rogan
Okay, so look up.
See how they got the Fastback?
Go scroll up.
Make that smaller.
There.
See the top one?
That's a different shape.
So the top one, they figured out how to make it slicker looking.
Look at this.
We slide the back out.
Make the back window instead of like, make it a longer angle.
brian simpson
Imagine being the first dude to like know.
And pull up and everybody's like, oh, you're driving your little sister's car or whatever.
You just smoke the shit out of everybody.
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so then they went to more and more impressive ones.
Now go to 1969 Mustang.
That's the one that John Wick had.
jamie vernon
1969...
joe rogan
Yeah, you want it like a fucking good one.
Like that one there on the left, the one that's kind of purplish, yeah, that's what a 1969 Mach 1 looks like.
So this is a commercial from 1969. See, this is a totally different vibe.
So by this time, the Mustang became a badass muscle car with a hood scoop.
Look at that thing.
unidentified
Fuck yeah!
brian simpson
Like it's not for hoes anymore.
joe rogan
America!
brian simpson
Fuck yeah!
joe rogan
Look at that car.
That's a dope car.
Look at that thing.
Goddamn.
unidentified
Mach 1. Special sports performance.
Sports Roof Mustang.
joe rogan
In 1969, your dick would be fully hard.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
You'd be like, what is that?
Google, there's a company that redoes them today.
Custom recreations.
brian simpson
They restore them or they just build them?
joe rogan
They redo them.
They make a whole new one from the bottom up and they make a Mach 1. Classic restorations?
I think it's classic restorations.
brian simpson
They're not allowed to put the Mustang logo on there?
joe rogan
No, it's technically a Mustang, but they make it from scratch.
I think they use the fucking front beam that holds the speedometer together.
They're like, yeah, we got the fucking original part.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
So you have one original part, and then they put together this spectacular...
Is it Classic Recreations?
jamie vernon
I'm trying to figure it out.
joe rogan
I think it's Classic Recreations.
jamie vernon
Yep, you got it right when you said it.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
So these guys have figured out how to make...
Look at that.
Ooh, baby.
jamie vernon
Is it the Hitman?
joe rogan
That's the Hitman, because it's John Wick.
So that's the exact replica of the car John Wick had in the movie, but way better.
This car has a Coyote Mustang engine, fat tires, wicked suspension.
But they recreate these old classic cars, but they make them in cars with killer brakes, killer suspension, and they just look so fucking dope.
brian simpson
Damn.
joe rogan
Look how dope that thing looks.
I mean, come the fuck on.
That's one thing America nailed in the 1960s.
They nailed the muscle car.
God, they nailed it.
To this day, all these years later, they're still some of the best looking cars ever.
brian simpson
I mean, one thing we really, really excel at is, for lack of a better term, is the badass aesthetic.
Yes.
Perfect term.
We have the coolest uniforms.
If you tell America, make something look cool, because we're great at how things look.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
That's our whole thing.
joe rogan
That's our whole thing.
brian simpson
How things are is a whole other story.
But we have some fucked up shit, but it'll look good.
joe rogan
But we have freedom.
We have the freedom to come up with fucked up shit.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
We have less freedom.
Less freedom than before.
In terms of, I think, what we're worried about is that, and what I'm saying by less freedom, I mean, we have more freedom for sure, but they're controlled by social media companies.
Your freedom of expression is kind of controlled now.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
I was just arguing with my producer about this.
unidentified
We have more.
joe rogan
We have more freedom because there's more options for places to do.
But if you really want to be and get your word out there, you kind of have to be on YouTube.
You kind of have to be on Twitter.
You kind of have to be on Instagram.
You kind of have to be on Facebook.
All the other ones are like, eh, Rumble or fucking Parler.
I'm sure they're good, but it's not the big ones.
brian simpson
No one's there.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So we have more freedom, but we're also dealing with it.
Jordan Peterson got suspended from Twitter today.
brian simpson
Suspended?
joe rogan
Suspended for Twitter for some sort of a post.
brian simpson
I felt like he was trying to get suspended because he was saying some wild shit for the last six months or something.
joe rogan
Well, I think he's a sensitive fellow.
I don't understand why really smart people want to get into entanglements online like that, like these exchanges.
Why are they antagonistic things?
He's making points, but like one of them, like here's one of them that I disagree with, and I love Jordan.
Let me just preface that.
He's a wonderful person.
I love him as a human being.
I really do.
I like him a lot, and I respect him.
I think he's a brilliant man.
I don't always agree with him.
And here, he was like talking about this cover of Sports Illustrated.
And there was a girl on the cover of Sports Illustrated that's large.
She's a bikini model, but she's a large bikini model.
brian simpson
Like how large are we talking?
joe rogan
She's not small.
But she's very pretty.
And he says, I'm sorry, not beautiful.
He puts that in a tweet.
Okay, aren't you busy?
brian simpson
See, that's the thing.
I feel like he's kind of fallen victim to something that he used to be against.
joe rogan
What's that?
brian simpson
Because you don't have to put...
Because I feel like our generation forgets that you can't fight every battle.
You have limited mental and emotional resources.
And so you don't have to put energy in...
You don't have to put so much energy into things that you hate or disagree with.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
You put most of your energy into things that you support.
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Right?
brian simpson
So it's like there's no...
Because nothing comes out of you saying that.
joe rogan
That's very wise.
You should call him.
brian simpson
Well, I don't have the...
I don't have the...
I don't know if I'm ready to argue with a man like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you are.
What you just said is correct.
It's not that he's incorrect that he does not find that overweight woman attractive.
The problem is not that.
The problem is expressing it in this way where you say, like, matter of fact, not beautiful.
You know, you could say, hey, I don't prefer women that are morbidly obese.
That's not my thing.
You could say that.
But I like to say not beautiful.
Like, okay.
brian simpson
And I already know that about him, right?
But my point is, somebody of his intellect...
I feel like it's already enough people online going, this bitch is fat or she ain't shit.
I don't need that from you.
I need the higher thoughts that only you're capable of producing.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
brian simpson
I don't need you calling bitches fat on Twitter.
joe rogan
I think he's trying to push back against the woke narrative.
And he thinks the woke narrative that fat shaming is bad and you're not supposed to look at things for what they really are, but look at things through the cultural lens of wokeness where you kind of pretend things are different and men can get pregnant.
brian simpson
But that's what we were talking about earlier, right?
Where it's like, that's you getting...
And I'm not judging him for it.
It happens to the best of us.
But that's you getting caught up in trying to win the battle and lose sight of the war.
joe rogan
Well, here's also the problem.
That girl is beautiful.
She's beautiful.
Look at her face.
Show a picture of her face.
She's fucking beautiful.
brian simpson
She is beautiful.
joe rogan
She's beautiful.
unidentified
She's not huge.
joe rogan
No, she's not morbidly obese.
I said morbidly obese, but I wasn't really talking about her.
I was really using her as an example.
brian simpson
But he's saying she shouldn't be on the cover of the swimsuit issue.
joe rogan
Right.
There's another woman.
There's different levels of women.
He says, sorry, not beautiful, and no amount of authoritarian tolerance is going to change that.
She's definitely beautiful.
She's just overweight.
But there's another girl that's in the same magazine.
You don't have to show it.
It's a lot bigger.
And then there's other ones online that are bigger.
It's like there's this thing to have, like, overweight models.
And some people get angry at it.
And that, out of all the things that people push back against, that's the one...
brian simpson
That's weird to me.
joe rogan
I like it when a comic does.
It's funny.
brian simpson
If you've got something funny to say.
joe rogan
It's a funny premise.
Like, Christina P., she's got a fucking funny, funny bit about it.
But there's also, like, who cares?
brian simpson
Yeah.
Also, there's mad dudes that love chicks.
For sure.
Yeah.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
Skinny guys look like they do heroin.
brian simpson
But it's also like, it's like, again, you're one of the world's premier intellectuals, and it's like, this ain't, I don't need that from you.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know either.
brian simpson
It's like, if I got a chance to talk to Neil deGrasse Tyson, I'm not going to be like, hey, do you think this girl is fat?
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yes, exactly.
brian simpson
So that's weird to me.
joe rogan
You don't want to ask him about that.
You want to ask him about the cosmos, right?
You want to ask him about what he knows about and that he's passionate about.
It's him pushing back against the woke narrative.
And I think you're right.
And I think part of the problem is guys like him, they read Twitter.
And they read YouTube comments.
And I don't think that shit's healthy for you.
He didn't used to be so emotional.
Right.
Well, I think also that was part of him getting off the benzodiazepine.
That was a real problem.
Like, he was hooked on that stuff, and he had to go through a serious detox, and it really fucked him up.
And he talks very openly about it.
It was very, like, physically difficult for him to get off of that.
So maybe that made him more emotional.
Or maybe it's just like the weight of stardom and criticism.
brian simpson
He's been only eating meat for a long time, right?
Like maybe somebody slipped him a crouton.
He just went the fuck off.
unidentified
Slipped him a crouton!
joe rogan
Maybe that's all it takes.
Well, he was talking once on the podcast about he got a hold of, what is it, like apple cider vinegar or something like that?
He drank it and he was sick for a month or something?
Something weird like that.
He's just a fascinating guy, and he's a super smart guy.
And I think a lot of super smart, fascinating people, they can be right and they can be wrong.
They can go down...
brian simpson
uncomfortable bad road like maybe unnecessary roads and then they can go down righteous roads and it's like this kind of the same energy that brings them into both places just like riffing you know sometimes you riff on an idea and it just doesn't work but that's the you know it's like that's one of the reasons I always were you know I'm what I respected about him is the same thing I respect about Sam Harris and Neil deGrasse Tyson and Michio Kaku and all these people it's like the the people that are truly intelligent in that way yes There's
a calmness about them because there's a certainty in their knowledge that brings about this calmness.
Like you ever watch Sam Harris?
Sam Harris would go to fucking, because I disagree with a lot of shit he says, but he'll go to a fucking synagogue and debate the rabbi in front of the flock.
No Sam Harris fans did.
And it's like, never raise his voice.
Never sound angry, never have a condescending tone or nothing.
joe rogan
He's the best at that.
He's the very best at that.
brian simpson
And Jordan Peterson used to be that, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
He would keep his cool because he was 100% certain in what he was saying.
joe rogan
Sam, I don't think he even uses Twitter anymore in the sense that I think he has it like deleted from his phone.
I think he only checks it like every now and then and puts stuff up there.
I think that that is a definite thing that people do where they get involved in conflict and criticisms of them and they respond to the criticisms and they get angry and his articles read about him.
Like Jordan will like tweet an article that's bad about him and like respond to the writer of the article.
But it's also like he became famous as a professor when he was in his late 40s.
That's when he became famous.
It's not like something he sought out, right?
So it's a weird little sort of situation he finds himself in.
brian simpson
See, I'm not nearly as famous as any of them, but my rule is the first 10 hours.
After I post something for the first 10 hours, I like, share, I might reply positively, and then I ignore it.
unidentified
That's smart.
brian simpson
You know, it's like people, if you write me something, it's like I try to read everything people write to me, but I'm not, I don't have time to go back and forth with people.
joe rogan
It's not a good tool for mentally ill people, and there's a lot of people in our profession that are mentally ill, and they fixate on the comments, and they fixate on debates, and like I see people in the comments like going back and forth with their fans, arguing with them about stuff.
I'm like, yo.
This is not a good thing for you.
This is not healthy for you.
It's not healthy for your psychology.
You should be out there just thinking about life and living life and do your best.
But you don't want to be detached from people, but you also don't want to do that because you're always in conflict.
You don't want to always be in conflict.
You want to be in conflict as least often as possible unless it's really important.
That's not really important.
No.
I understand that he's pushing back against this idea that models can be overweight, but let the fucking market decide.
With that, what are they selling?
It's a fucking magazine, okay?
If nobody likes that because they're doing that, then people buy less magazines and then they change course.
These motherfuckers...
Lick their finger.
Like, which way's the wind blowing?
It's going woke.
We're going woke, too.
They'll put fucking rainbows over Big Macs and tell you this is a pride Mac.
brian simpson
Well, woke has been, like, perverted now.
Because it was cool when the term first came out.
joe rogan
Yes.
It was like you're awake.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
You're not asleep.
unidentified
Exactly.
brian simpson
But now it's...
You know, it's like Woodstock.
unidentified
Right.
brian simpson
It's like when it first came out, it was organic, it was a thing, and now it's...
You know, now brands are woke.
You know, maybe Ben and Jerry does give a fuck about social justice or whatever.
joe rogan
I think they do.
I think those guys are old school hippies.
brian simpson
Or maybe Wendy's or whoever, but probably not.
Most of these brands don't.
joe rogan
A lot of them are doing it because they feel like they're compelled to do that by the market, too.
They feel like people will complain if they don't take a stance on social justice, if they don't do a thing.
And it's basically what that dude was talking about.
Exactly what that Russian cat was talking about.
That is exactly what's going on.
You're compelling speech.
brian simpson
It's not even a real political stance.
It's you trying to fit in.
joe rogan
It's compliance.
brian simpson
Compliance, okay.
joe rogan
It's compliance with the ideology.
And if you don't comply, they'll attack you.
And they try to take you out, or they try to dismiss you, or they try to get people to boycott your company.
They'll come after you in some sort of way that hurts your bottom line, trying to get you to force compliance.
Trying to get you to be more woke.
These people that complain about certain corporations not taking stands on social justice.
People that sell things.
If all your business is selling things, why do you have to take a stance on social justice issues?
Is that really important?
Or is it important to the individuals?
brian simpson
Well, you know, for me, it doesn't matter because the stance you're taking is just something you're saying.
joe rogan
Well, here's the bottom line of all of it.
Most of it's done on objects that are made by slaves.
brian simpson
Right!
joe rogan
That's the reality of phones.
brian simpson
It's like we, uh...
joe rogan
You and I are debating, like, iPhone versus Android.
Find the fucking dude who's pulling the minerals out of the ground to make those things with a stick and a Congo, and you go, whoa, what are we serving?
brian simpson
Because that's what they're not saying when they're like, there's a chip shortage.
You're like, wait, wait, wait, where was the point with the shortage?
Oh, because most of our slaves died from COVID, you know?
unidentified
Is that what it is?
brian simpson
Well, I don't think it's that all of them died, but it definitely...
They were the last ones to get treatment, for sure.
joe rogan
It's a supply chain thing that affected everything during COVID. I think it was a lot of it is just, you remember all those shipping containers were all fucked?
There's like hundreds of thousands of them out.
See?
Couldn't come in.
No one to take the cargo off.
brian simpson
And I remember there was a boat clogging a canal or something.
Sort of big-ass ship that like turned sideways.
You got stuck?
Yeah, I think it's...
unidentified
No, not the Suez.
joe rogan
How'd they get that fucking thing out?
jamie vernon
It took a long time to turn it around.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, just imagine how many problems there have when all the workers stop working for months and months and months, if not a year.
And that's what a lot of what happened.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it's guaranteed to fuck something up.
The system was, like, pretty smooth before that.
But then we realized, like, hey, we need to get our chips from other countries.
Why don't we have our fucking chips here?
Because they couldn't make cars for a while.
There was a car shortage in America.
brian simpson
There still is.
You know, I still don't have a car.
unidentified
Really?
brian simpson
For this very reason.
Yeah, because the dealers are charging, you know, five to seven grand over the sticker price.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian simpson
And in my whole life, I've never...
I've...
I've never seen anybody pay the sticker price for a car.
joe rogan
Used cars...
brian simpson
Yeah, used cars were expensive.
joe rogan
Used cars are very expensive, especially like Toyotas and Lexuses, shit that you know never breaks.
brian simpson
Yeah, they're saying there's a shortage, but...
joe rogan
There is a shortage.
brian simpson
Yeah, but they price gouging.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's still a shortage.
They're definitely price gouging, but there's also still a shortage.
But they also have overhead.
Like, if they're not selling cars because they don't have cars to sell, and they have a fucking high lease rate, there's a lot of shit going on.
brian simpson
I looked into it now.
So, Tesla gets around that because Tesla...
Because it's fully electric, you can buy straight from the manufacturer.
There'd have to be a dealership in the middle.
Every other kind of car, you have to buy.
It got so bad that the CEO of Ford threatened dealers if they kept price gouging that they wouldn't get the new inventory.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's creepy, but if you're a dealer and that's the only way you're making a living, all of a sudden you're not selling any cars because you don't have any cars to sell.
I get that they'd be like, hey, there's a fucking demand going on here.
Let's jack this shit up.
Because they're allowed to jack up certain cars.
Like, if you get a certain car that's a hard-to-get car, like a Porsche, for example, they're always over the dealer rate.
Always.
Always.
Like, if you go to a lot and you try to buy a GT3 RS, a limited edition car, it's not going to cost what it costs if you ordered it from the factory.
It's going to cost more.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Especially, like, that's one of the things that people do with, like, luxury cars.
They flip them and they'll buy a Ferrari and not even drive it and then flip it and then, you know, bring it to it and then they'll do it on consignment.
They'll sell it at a Ferrari dealership.
To order a Ferrari, to go and order one from the factory, you have to have bought one before, you have to have a relationship with them.
brian simpson
You can't just buy one.
joe rogan
No, it's not that easy.
People buy them and then they flip them.
They're worth more money than you bought them for.
Yeah, and then they're worth just as much money like a year from now, two years from now.
brian simpson
Wait a minute, if to buy one, you have to have bought one before, how do you buy the first one?
joe rogan
You have to buy one that's flipped.
brian simpson
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Wow.
joe rogan
To order one from Ferrari, you have to have like a relationship with Ferrari.
brian simpson
Imagine being that ballsy about your brand.
That's ballsy.
We only sell exclusively.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
You can't just buy one.
joe rogan
You can't just buy a Ferrari.
They make these motherfuckers by hand.
But when you get in one, you're like, holy shit.
You feel that leather.
brian simpson
I'm scared.
Remember the last time I was here when we were at the shooting range talking about fast cars?
joe rogan
Yes.
brian simpson
I'm scared to get in one.
Because it was easy before when I couldn't afford one.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
But I was like, I'm going to fucking die.
I can't have a car like that.
joe rogan
Well, if you have a Tesla, those are fast as fuck.
brian simpson
Yeah, I don't want that.
joe rogan
Fast as fuck, but easy to drive.
Easy to drive normal.
So you don't have to drive them that fast.
It doesn't compel you to drive fast, but what it does do is it drives fast effortlessly with no sound.
brian simpson
They just gave up on the auto driving thing, right?
joe rogan
No.
No, they just released a new update.
brian simpson
I thought Elon just said autonomous driving is too complicated.
Really?
On Twitter.
joe rogan
Wasn't there some auto drive upgrade that just got released?
brian simpson
No.
Today, I don't use it.
The first headline I saw today was they fired 200 people from that division.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
brian simpson
Yeah, he said it was too...
I think on Twitter he said it was too...
It's more complicated than he anticipated.
joe rogan
Tesla revives enhanced autopilot for $6,000.
don lemon
Revives?
joe rogan
Yeah, what did he say that...
brian simpson
No, I'm talking about fully autonomous driving.
So all the assistive features, that's fine.
But the car driving itself completely without your input?
That's a wrap.
jamie vernon
He hasn't tweeted for a few days.
brian simpson
No?
jamie vernon
Weirdly.
He hasn't tweeted since June 21st.
joe rogan
Maybe that's quite a while.
brian simpson
It might have just been bullshit.
jamie vernon
It might have just been a fake Elon Musk account.
joe rogan
There's a lot of those.
brian simpson
No, I didn't see him tweeted.
I read an article that quoted a tweet from him.
joe rogan
Oh.
Well, to just be able to press a button and have it stop at every red light and recognize every car and every person trying to cross the road and all that stuff and not hit anybody, man, I don't know.
brian simpson
That's going to take a while.
Because I think they're going about it I think the better way to do it would have to be with the roads also interacting with the cars.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
He's actually not incorrect in what he was saying.
Here's another article rewording this headline.
joe rogan
Tesla relaunches $6,000 enhanced autopilot gutting full self-driving package in the process.
unidentified
Oh.
jamie vernon
So enhanced autopilot is not the same as full self-driving.
joe rogan
So they gutted full self-driving.
jamie vernon
Let me see what it says here.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Hmm, interesting.
jamie vernon
Reversed the move by fully bringing back Enhanced Autopilot as an option on new purchases.
joe rogan
Hmm.
jamie vernon
Rather than being able to do...
joe rogan
So Autopilot, Enhanced Autopilot says navigate on autopilot, auto lane change, auto park, summon, and smart summon.
So I don't think that stops at red lights and does all that other shit.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
That's one of the things they were trying to get it to do.
Oh, full self-driving capability.
Is that still available?
jamie vernon
That's the thing.
I'm a little confused.
Maybe they stopped this enhanced autopilot thing for a while and you could only do that.
Now they brought it back because this isn't technically fully available yet.
joe rogan
So see what it says.
It says, full self-driving capability, all functionality of basic autopilot and enhanced autopilot, traffic light and stop sign control.
brian simpson
Oh, that's only 60 grand?
joe rogan
Auto steer on city streets.
Only 60 grand for the car?
jamie vernon
For that one.
For that Model 3 that they're showing.
joe rogan
Oh, 59. That's a dope little car.
You know, that's a good size too, those Model 3s.
They're agile.
They're little fast little fuckers.
brian simpson
Yeah, I might get one.
joe rogan
Dude, they're so fast.
Callan has one.
Ask him about it.
brian simpson
Callan?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
I don't know him.
joe rogan
You don't know him?
brian simpson
No.
unidentified
Really?
brian simpson
I've never met Brian Callan.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
Wow.
Well, I'll fix that.
But they figured that out with those cars where they have the big one that is like the four-door, the S series.
They have the three series, which is a little more accessible, but more agile too.
And then they have the X, and then they have a couple coming out.
And they have this fucking truck that is the wildest shit I've ever seen in my life.
brian simpson
Yeah, they just finalized the design on the truck.
joe rogan
Dude, it's amazing.
brian simpson
What's the other thing?
joe rogan
They have the little Tesla Roadster.
The Roadster is not...
A lot of people bought those.
You pay for it and you've got to wait for years.
jamie vernon
According to this article, this is probably why.
It says they kept missing deadlines to achieve full self-driving, so they took some of those features and put them back on a different package.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brian simpson
Yeah, but I think Elon has basically said it's too hard.
It's too hard of a problem for where we're at at the moment.
joe rogan
Makes sense.
It's a hard problem.
I mean, you think about people changing lanes.
What does the thing do?
If there's a car coming and then you turn to the right to avoid the car and there's a person, what do you do?
brian simpson
You know what I think is going to end up happening, Jim?
Is I think, like I said, I think it's going to start with the highways.
We're going to install some kind of AI, Package in the highways.
So I think this is the best way it's going to implement in society where when you pull onto the highway, the road connects with your car and takes over until you get to your exit.
joe rogan
That's probably the right way.
brian simpson
And that's going to get people used to – because it's going to definitely get political.
joe rogan
Well, what if you don't pay for your account and it won't let you on the road?
You can't get to work.
What if it gets to that?
What if it gets to, that's a service that you have to pay for, like the electrical bill that you get?
Maybe you get a bill for every mile you travel.
brian simpson
Or maybe you can't get on that road without it.
joe rogan
Yeah, there'll be something like that.
There'll be something like that where you have to pay for access to the road or you have to have a subscription or a clean record or a clean social credit score to be able to get on the road.
brian simpson
Yeah, something like that.
joe rogan
It's not going to be more freedom.
It's not going to be more freedom.
As time goes on, they're going to get closer and closer and closer to a solid grip on us.
brian simpson
Well, people are so short-sighted that they're willing to give up.
This is another thing I think is wrong politically is we're so obsessed with dunking on the other side.
And people are so willing to give up a freedom in the moment if it hurts the oppositions.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
And they don't realize, like, somebody else is gonna have that power someday.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
That was the thing about the Patriot Act when Obama was in office.
He was like, you know, indefinite detention, we would never use it.
But you're putting it in there.
You're never gonna use it.
But look who's after you.
Trump.
Maybe he would use it.
Maybe we decide we got to put him away forever.
Who cares?
And what if it's worse than Trump?
What if it's next level Trump?
What if we keep going on to more ruthless and ruthless people that control the power?
You can't have that kind of a thing in place and just assume you have a benevolent dictator who's never going to utilize it.
Because that's what they did by passing it.
You gave people that are in charge of other people power that they're not supposed to have.
The whole checks and balances things out of whack now.
brian simpson
It's kind of terrifying.
joe rogan
It's terrifying.
brian simpson
Yeah.
I mean, lucky for us, we're not going to be around when everything really, really goes to shit.
I think we will.
Really?
You think it's going to be that soon?
joe rogan
I think it's going to happen quicker than you think.
I think things got so weird between 2019 and 2022. Well, you will.
brian simpson
I'm going to be eating cheeseburgers until it's over.
joe rogan
I'm just saying, you're not going to die in five years unless something awful happens.
But within five years, things are going to get very weird.
Very weird.
Things got very weird in three.
brian simpson
Yeah, you're right about that.
joe rogan
Five years from now, you're talking about almost a decade from COVID. Things are going to be strange as fuck.
brian simpson
Remember that podcast that they did at the store on election night when Trump won?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Remember how fucking weird that felt?
Like the energy in the air?
joe rogan
That was my podcast.
We did the end of the world.
It was me and Bill Burr and Bert Kreischer.
brian simpson
And I remember somebody brought a kid.
joe rogan
Jim Jeffries.
brian simpson
Oh, right.
joe rogan
Brought his kid.
We go, hey, that's not legal.
We're smoking pot.
Get out of here.
brian simpson
Right.
And we didn't know that was the beginning of like, we thought that was the peak weirdness.
joe rogan
Yeah.
We were like, what in the fuck?
The guy from The Apprentice is the president.
It was so funny.
At the time, you could mock it, and everybody would laugh, and no one...
Everyone was so confused, but then it became like this...
Then you saw the separation.
People that were okay with it, people that hated it, people that were happy that he's president, people that hated everything about him and anyone who supported him, and then it got more and more polarized as time went on.
And then he never changed.
We thought that when he was going to get to be the president, he was going to stop insulting people, and he's going to try to be presidential.
brian simpson
No.
He's running again.
joe rogan
Of course he is.
He can run again.
He's allowed to run again.
It's nuts.
brian simpson
I think he's going to split the party.
joe rogan
He might.
But I mean, who the fuck is...
brian simpson
Will it even matter?
joe rogan
On the Democratic side, the thing is, like, what are you voting for?
You know, are you voting for the person?
Are you voting for the policies?
And then this abortion's right thing.
This has changed a lot of people's ideas about becoming Republican.
brian simpson
Well, this is something I never thought would happen.
joe rogan
Whispers of Hillary Clinton 2024 have started.
unidentified
Well, this is on CNN. That's not a good idea.
joe rogan
Look at this.
jamie vernon
They said she shouldn't run.
CNN's saying there's whispers of her running.
brian simpson
Well, I ain't trying to hear that.
See, CNN... Stop reporting whispers, motherfucker.
That's real close to a rumor.
joe rogan
It is a rumor.
brian simpson
A real news channel shouldn't be talking about whispers.
Give me some fucking concrete information.
joe rogan
Well, they're not a real news channel.
brian simpson
Of course not.
joe rogan
It's a propaganda arm of the Democratic Party.
brian simpson
That's the other thing about the Trump election, right?
People forget that...
All the polls and all that were like, no way.
Hillary's blowing him out everywhere.
And this shit turned out to be completely opposite.
Like that guy was talking about, it's eroded our trust.
We don't even know what's true or whose agenda is what.
joe rogan
I think there was also the secret Trump vote.
brian simpson
What was that?
joe rogan
The secret Trump vote is people that didn't want to admit they were going to vote for Trump.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
There's people that did not like the way things are going, did not trust Hillary, and they'd never vote for a Republican at any other time.
They're like, you know what?
Fuck her.
And they put it in there.
She was not a loved person when she was running for president.
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
You know, and all the craziness that they did during the elections and all the wild shit where Trump had the women that accused Bill Clinton of sexual assault.
He had them on stage with them, like, over to the right, sitting down.
Like, there was so much crazy shit during those debates and during, like, all of that.
It was just, like, it got so hot.
And because he's so volatile and argumentative and he's, like, so good at, like, fucking with people and talking shit, it became, like, just...
brian simpson
It became entertaining.
joe rogan
The people on the other side lost their fucking minds.
brian simpson
And what really killed them, like I said, Republicans were like, because remember, at first, Republicans was against Trump.
But then when they started looking at the numbers, they thought, oh, this motherfucker can win.
And they all fucking got behind it.
joe rogan
They all got behind him.
Even the ones that he shit on and call them serial killers.
brian simpson
He's a joke.
God, he does that.
That's just what he does.
But he's gonna lead this country.
Not on our side.
On our side, we're like, hey man, if you get too close to a titty, it's a wrap.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it forever.
brian simpson
We have this weird purity test where it's like, if you don't fucking...
joe rogan
Didn't always used to be like that, though.
brian simpson
I know.
It used to be entertaining.
It used to be a fight you couldn't really predict.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Now we know.
We know who's gonna win.
joe rogan
But it's also, I think the problem of having a guy like Trump is you have a popularity contest and you have an actual popular guy who knows how to be popular and he just dominates this popularity contest.
So it's like, unless you have someone with the same kind of charisma, like, you gotta rig the game.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
And they, you know, the enthusiasm behind them, you know, they did rig the game.
They rigged the game against Bernie Sanders.
joe rogan
Yeah, they definitely did that.
Who could have won?
brian simpson
Maybe he could have won.
But the thing is, that's where the energy was.
There was no energy behind Hillary Clinton.
joe rogan
Right.
And there's other ones that are floating around that are at the top, the Elizabeth Warrens and the Pete Buttigiegs.
brian simpson
I think there should be an age limit on running for president.
joe rogan
Well, it's not a bad idea.
It's not a bad idea.
brian simpson
Is 70 reasonable?
joe rogan
What about Congress people?
Nancy Pelosi is like 81. All that.
brian simpson
I think 70 is a reasonable cutoff age where you shouldn't be able to be running the world.
joe rogan
Just like you should be a police officer, you should have to be able to do certain physical tasks.
You should be able to go through a physical fitness test.
You should have to do that as a president, too.
They should ask you questions.
Imagine if you had to take an SAT test.
Imagine what Biden's SAT test would look like.
brian simpson
They should occasionally scare you.
If you shit your pants, you're out of office.
If you gotta wear diapers and shit, you can't be president.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Could you imagine if they made presidents take examinations to find out what their intelligence level is before they gave them certain tasks?
brian simpson
That would be incredible.
joe rogan
Because imagine, like you say, you are the president, but how much do you actually know about the economy?
How much do you actually know about foreign policy?
How much do you actually know about the environment and the impact of petrochemical products and natural gas and all these different things?
Okay, so here's some questions, and then just lay out all these questions for them and Whatever, depending upon how good they are at each individual answer, they get a certain amount of say in the policy that's attached to that particular subject.
brian simpson
You know what I like too?
I think if the vote's close enough, they should have to throw hands.
They should settle it.
If it's within 20%, they should have to fight.
joe rogan
They should have to play chess.
brian simpson
Yeah, all manner of other competitions other than a fucking debate where they have an earpiece in where people are telling them what to say.
joe rogan
Do you think they have earpieces in?
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah?
brian simpson
In fact, some of them have been caught.
I remember Mitt Romney was caught where the echo from his earpiece was coming through his microphone.
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god, hold that up.
brian simpson
This was during the Republican primary debates.
joe rogan
Mitt Romney?
brian simpson
Yeah, I'm almost positive it was Mitt Romney.
joe rogan
That should be illegal.
brian simpson
Yeah, he got caught with the earpiece in, and it was one of those group debates.
You know?
I'm sure it'll pop up.
joe rogan
He's like a fucking televangelist.
brian simpson
Yeah, I mean, they were telling him what to say.
joe rogan
Oh my God, that's so hilarious.
brian simpson
And so maybe it wasn't just him, but I'm sure they all do.
joe rogan
Who's on the other end that's so good?
Why doesn't that person run for president?
brian simpson
Because they're smarter than that.
You know, it's like, you know, it's like, the political strategists and shit behind the scenes, that's job security.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that's way better than being a candidate.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's true.
They don't get forced out.
They stay in office forever.
brian simpson
And it's never their fault.
joe rogan
Right.
And then they move on to the next campaign.
They become a fixer.
brian simpson
It's been a long time since I really followed politics strictly, but I know James Carville was one of those people.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian simpson
Where he was like...
joe rogan
The Clintons.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
He was a beast at that.
joe rogan
Interesting guy.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
He would be on those talk shows talking, you know, that kind of Southern accent.
brian simpson
And he just...
His accent made it sound like he was lying.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
But...
joe rogan
Well, he's a politician.
The problem with politicians is they...
We know there's going to be a certain amount of lying, and they assume they're going to have to lie about a certain amount of things.
It's like, you know that lady who's the new White House press secretary, and when they talk to her about the economy, she's like, the economy's as strong as it's ever been.
They're like, the fuck are you talking about?
And the other day, she's talking to Don Lemon, and Don Lemon says, do you think that, do you have any concerns about Biden being fit enough to run at 24?
She's like, oh, this is ridiculous.
Are we really bringing this up?
I can't even keep up with him.
You see all the things he does.
Have you seen it?
Bro, you need to see it, because it's so ridiculous.
brian simpson
I'm laughing at your impression of her.
joe rogan
It's dead on.
brian simpson
I can't even keep up with it.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I'm telling you, it's dead on.
Like, that's how she said it.
That's how she said it.
It's so dumb, because everybody's watching this guy.
American, some American one word.
unidentified
Fuck it.
brian simpson
He's falling apart.
They don't even care anymore.
They'll lie to your face now.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, this is like...
Some of the most blatant lying to your face.
Because you're lying and Don Lemon's calling bullshit.
When Don Lemon's calling bullshit, that's real bullshit.
Watch this.
brian simpson
Oh, wow.
The new White House...
jamie vernon
There's a video of that.
joe rogan
No, there's a video.
unidentified
I watched it.
jamie vernon
I'm not...
brian simpson
Is this the press secretary?
joe rogan
Yeah, just go to videos.
Yeah, that's the new one.
jamie vernon
I don't know if that's the right one.
This was a week ago.
That was from June 15th or something.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
White House press secretary Don Lemon.
Put that in there.
brian simpson
Yeah, dude.
Every White House press secretary is a fucking snake.
joe rogan
They have to be.
That's the job.
The job is you have to spin things.
Right there.
No, it was the one there downstairs.
Don, right there.
The bottom line.
The bottom line.
jamie vernon
I know that's six minutes long.
I don't know where the part's going to be.
brian simpson
You notice how fast they burn out, too?
They never last the whole president's term.
joe rogan
Never.
This is only...
Let me hear what you...
jamie vernon
That's right.
unidentified
I don't...
don lemon
Challenges in the run-up to this year's midterm elections, and it is raising questions about how the partners are growing louder inside the Democratic Party, facing doubt in the Democratic Party about his plans to run in the second term.
I want you to listen.
This is what Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez told CNN when asked if she would support Biden in 2024. Here it is.
unidentified
We'll cross that bridge when we get to it, but I think if the President has a vision, then that's something certainly we're all willing to entertain and examine when the time comes.
That's not a yes.
I believe that the President has been doing a very good job so far, and should he run again, I think that we'll take a look at it.
don lemon
Okay, so as I understand, you reiterated that the President does plan to run in 2024, right?
unidentified
So first of all, the Congresswoman did say the President is doing a good job, so that's good, right?
So I just want to really highlight that.
karine jean-pierre
Because many people agree with that.
But he is going to run in 2024. Well, let me just say, there's something called the Hatch Act that I have to be very mindful of.
What I can say is the president has repeatedly said that he plans to run in 2024, and I'm going to have to leave it there.
don lemon
Okay, but are you concerned?
Is the administration worried that there are Democrats who are not openly endorsing the president come 2024, even though you can't say for sure?
unidentified
I really can't get into that.
All I can say is what the president intends to do, what the president plans to do.
And look, at the end of the day, Don, our focus is to deliver for the American people.
That's the work that we've been doing with the economy.
She's got That's the work that we've been doing with COVID. When he walked in, again, let's not forget, when he walked in as looking at COVID, there was no comprehensive plan to get people vaccinated.
Now more than 200 million people are getting vaccinated.
karine jean-pierre
The one thing I do want to say is as we are working on plans to lower inflation, deal with gas prices, you know, you have the other side, you have Republicans, and what they're doing is they're putting out a plan.
Rick Scott, Senator Rick Scott, put out a plan on how he wants to raise...
Taxes on people making less than $100,000, and also Sunset, Medicare, and Social Security, things that are so important to our communities across the country.
don lemon
You're right.
Those are important policy issues, and those should be discussed, and they're discussed in every presidential election, and they're discussed all the time.
The president, during interviews, where he doesn't seem to answer questions directly or at times succinctly, there is his approval ratings.
According to the latest Gallup poll, 41% of Americans approve of Biden's job as president.
So how does he and you, because you are the spokesperson of the White House, plan to assure voters that he is still the best candidate to beat Trump?
Is he at his best right now?
unidentified
Well, I think the thing that Americans love about President Biden is he's a straight shooter.
He is a straight shooter, and he says it as the way he sees it, and he calls it out.
And that is the thing that makes him genuine and authentic and real, and people really, really connect with this president.
I see it myself when we go into, we're going to Philly, Pennsylvania.
We just came back from New Mexico.
We were in L.A. She studied Obama's hand movements.
karine jean-pierre
I travel with him all across the country, and I see how people feel about this president and how much they appreciate what he has done.
unidentified
And I think that matters.
karine jean-pierre
As far as the polls, our focus, again, is delivering for the American people.
unidentified
We're making inflation our number one economic policy.
There's other issues that the president has to deal with, and that is what he's going to focus on, and that's how he's going to continue.
don lemon
There's no concern within the administration about the president's polling.
unidentified
That's not what we're talking about here.
We're focused.
We are genuinely focused on how we can get the work done on behalf of the American people.
don lemon
Does the president have the stamina, physically and mentally, do you think, to continue on even after 2024?
unidentified
Don, you're asking me this question!
Oh my gosh!
He's the president of the United States.
You know, he...
I can't even keep up with it.
We just got back from New Mexico.
We just got back from California.
That is...
That is not a question that we should be even asking.
Just look at the work that he does.
Look how he's delivering for the American public.
joe rogan
Gaslighting.
unidentified
Whatever you do, nobody strike a fucking match.
Strike a match.
joe rogan
That is wild.
That's wild talk.
brian simpson
That's number one bullshit.
joe rogan
Are we really asking this?
Are we really?
Come on, Don.
Oh my God, Don.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
There's when politicians do this thing where they have a way of talking.
There's a very specific...
It's like someone doing karate.
brian simpson
It's pleading.
It's a joke.
Are we really going to talk about...
It's like she did everything but answer his question.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Listen, we're here.
He was like, what are these polls?
She was like, well, listen, I'm going all around this nation.
unidentified
What I'm seeing with my own eyes, I'm seeing the people.
joe rogan
People are really connecting with him.
brian simpson
Right.
42% of the people actually approve of these.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think it's all bull.
I don't trust the polls.
I don't trust the questions.
I don't trust her.
joe rogan
My point is, of course you don't trust her.
She's clearly not just speaking about what she thinks.
She's clearly being a politician, right?
She's propagandizing.
She's putting things in the best light possible.
That's not really what she really thinks.
Of course she has some concerns.
brian simpson
Of course you're keeping up with a 73-year-old man that can barely stay awake.
joe rogan
He's 80, bro.
brian simpson
Oh, okay.
Wow.
joe rogan
Isn't he?
79?
79?
78?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He shouldn't...
brian simpson
Look...
Maybe 79. Look, he shouldn't be running the country.
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
Is that ageism?
joe rogan
No, because if he was 79 and very lucid, and he was very good at speaking, and he made really important points, and he felt sincere, you'd have trust in him, and you'd want him to run the country.
Like, that lady's gaslighting us.
brian simpson
But see, I ain't even...
That's not even where I'm coming from.
joe rogan
Where are you coming from?
brian simpson
I'm coming from...
Even if you're 79 and you're the most lucid, and it's like...
You're making decisions that you are definitely not going to be around to have to live with.
joe rogan
Right, but if you are like a movie, let's go to a movie about some like wise society of brilliant people and you have the wisest of the wise who rules amongst them and does so with kindness and compassion and generosity and the way they do it is like with pure democracy and they only want the will of the people and they want the people to be happy and educated and he just happened to be 78. He'd be like, that's our leader.
brian simpson
Yeah, true.
joe rogan
This is not...
What he is is nonsense.
What he is is a foot...
It's like a placeholder for a leader.
And then all the shit is going on behind the scenes and he starts, we're gonna get rid of e-cigarettes.
brian simpson
I told you, I'm on some Judge Dredd shit.
I think you should have to die right after.
I think you become president, you automatically get eight years, and right after, they just hand you a rifle and send you out into the fucking desert.
joe rogan
Or they chop your head off on pay-per-view.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Something like that.
joe rogan
And they use that money to fix the streets.
brian simpson
Yeah.
Because that way...
Because a lot of these people, they go there because it's going to enrich them.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
You know, and there's no penalty or nothing.
They just want power.
joe rogan
Well, they get these weird sort of unwritten deals where they give speeches after they get out of office for hundreds of thousands of dollars to companies that they helped enrich during their period in office.
And then there's like this revolving door thing that goes on.
You ever see an inside job?
brian simpson
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
It's a great movie.
And it's all about the financial crisis.
And the guy who is the narrator...
unidentified
Oh, no.
brian simpson
No.
I saw Inside Man.
I thought you were okay.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Inside Job is a job about the financial crisis.
And there's a guy who really understands the financial system, is asking all the questions of these professors and asking of these economic advisors and how this take place and what happened.
And some of them get unhinged and get mad at him because he actually knows what he's talking about.
But what he's essentially pointing out is that people start off...
As professors in these universities, and they endorse certain economic policies that will then lead to these problems, then once they get out of working as a professor, they go and get massive jobs with these companies that they helped enrich by their decisions, by their economic advice.
So these people, there's like a financial incentive for them to endorse certain policies, lending and that kind of shit, financial shit.
And so this guy explains it all.
It's a wild movie.
Because for people like me, who don't know jack shit about how the economy works, I get to see that.
And it's, you know, you realize how much money these people are making.
And how it was all rigged and how they would have these people funnel from university to...
brian simpson
What's this on?
Is this on Netflix?
joe rogan
I think it's on everything.
jamie vernon
It was this documentary in 2010. Yeah.
So it's on a lot of places.
joe rogan
It's right after the 2008 crisis.
brian simpson
Okay, yeah.
joe rogan
It's good.
It's good.
brian simpson
The smartest guys in the room good?
joe rogan
Yeah, very similar.
Very similar, yeah.
It's one of those ones where you're just like, fuck.
And you realize, just like politicians get corrupt, businessmen get corrupt too.
And when you're in a corporation, one of the things about corporations is the bottom line is you have to make more money.
You're always trying to make more money.
And if you can make more money by telling a mathematician or a politician or someone that if you endorse this or that, this could help us over here, and then hey, maybe you can come speak.
And then you come speak and you're making $300,000 for a half hour of nonsense.
America has always been about prosperity!
And you're getting paid for that.
Like, wild sums of money for that.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
Am I above it?
That's the question I gotta ask.
jamie vernon
No!
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
Are you above it?
Come on, man.
If you had to do stand-up in front of the Democratic National Convention...
And they offered you $300,000 to do 45 minutes of stand-up, you're gonna do it.
brian simpson
Oh yeah, I'd do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd do it.
It'd be great just for the story.
brian simpson
There are very few groups of people I wouldn't do stand-up at right now.
joe rogan
What about Bohemian Grove, that shirt you're wearing?
brian simpson
I don't even know what this is.
joe rogan
You don't know what this is?
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Bohemian Grove.
This is hilarious about you wearing that shirt.
That's why I asked you, where'd you get that shirt?
And you were like, I spilled something on my shirt.
I got that from here.
So somebody must have given me this.
This shirt is about a place that all the rich guys go and they dress up like druids.
And they do all these crazy fucking rituals.
And it used to be thought of as nonsense until John Ronson filmed Alex Jones sneaking into Bohemian Grove.
Alex Jones made his way in there with a hidden camera, filmed these guys with fucking druid costumes on, burning an effigy in front of a giant owl god.
And talk about Moloch, the owl god, and they've been going there since like the 60s.
Nixon talked about it.
Nixon talked about what a horrible time he had there.
What was Nixon's quote?
Find Nixon's quote on Bohemian Grove because it's fucking hilarious.
So dudes would get there and it'd be like all eyes wide shut type of shit and a lot of debauchery and fucking perversion.
And these guys were all these like super duper rich guys and they would go there, pull up Nixon's.
unidentified
I'm all about debauchery and perversion.
jamie vernon
I'll just read it but don't say it out loud.
brian simpson
One example was President Nixon coming...
joe rogan
I think we've said it before.
It's Nixon's quote.
He says, it is the most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine with that San Francisco crowd.
Yeah, Nixon hated it.
So the Bohemian Grove was a place where it was just a legend.
And then when they got video footage, these guys are actually doing this.
People are like, oh my god.
So the video footage...
Is this Nixon talking about it?
Oh.
See?
This is Nixon.
unidentified
...San Francisco is gone.
It's clear over to the side of the head, but it isn't.
It isn't just not an Iraqi part of the townhouse, but the upper class of San Francisco is that way.
The San Francisco crowd that goes in there.
joe rogan
It's just terrible, he says.
brian simpson
Wait a minute.
He says he attends from time to time.
joe rogan
They all do.
Look at that picture there.
When you look at the people that Ronald Reagan was there, Richard Nixon, all these bigwigs and huge heads of state and corporate leaders, they would all go there.
It was like an elite of the elite, and they would do things that are weird.
Like they would dress up in costumes and worship gods.
brian simpson
But if he hated it so much, why did he go?
joe rogan
They all went there.
brian simpson
Oh, just the political ones?
joe rogan
It was like one of those things.
It's like you had to be in the club.
And everybody thought it was nonsense until they got video footage of this.
And they got video footage of this in like 99. So look, Henry Kissinger.
Look at all these people that were there.
Gerald Ford.
John McCain.
They all went there.
They took a class photo.
Bohemian Grove Camp.
Mandalay, 1977. But see if you can find the video of the actual footage that Ronson and Alex Jones got, because it's wild shit, man.
These guys, there's a megaphone, and they're talking through the megaphone, like a speaker, and they're explaining how they're worshiping this owl god, and then they burn this effigy that's supposed to represent a body.
It's like a bundle of sticks, and they light it on fire.
It's wild shit.
brian simpson
Did that turn into Burning Man?
joe rogan
No, Burning Man is the opposite of that.
So see if you can just cut ahead until you see the actual footage of them.
So this is Alex Jones inside Bohemian.
This is before they understood what he was doing.
But if you go back all the way towards the end, I think, there it is, there we go.
So this is the actual ritual.
So they all have torches, and they dress up like monks.
And listen to this shit.
We shall meet thee.
unidentified
And some of us prevail against thee, and some thou shalt destroy.
But this too we know.
Year after year, within this happy throne, Our fellowship bans thee for a space.
And I'm a remolence which would pursue us here has lost its power under these friendly dreams.
So shall we worship thee once again this night?
And in the flames that beat thine empathy, we shall read the sign, Midsummer sets us free!
Ye shall burn me!
joe rogan
Ye shall burn me once again.
unidentified
Okay, pause.
joe rogan
And people wonder why Alex Jones is crazy.
brian simpson
Is that a...
joe rogan
Imagine seeing that and go, how come everybody doesn't know about this?
The presidents all go here?
The heads of state?
This is all real.
jamie vernon
Sounds like a goofy play they're doing.
joe rogan
It does, but that's what they do.
brian simpson
Like a sketch competition?
joe rogan
It's a sketch competition, but that is what they do.
brian simpson
Like the shittiest improv group?
joe rogan
It's just...
But what's weird is that these people all become...
You know the story of Skull and Bones, all these elite fraternities.
They do wild shit, weird shit.
You have to suck a dick, and they take pictures of you.
Now they have it, and they put it in a vault.
You know, that's the rumors.
The rumors are always those kind of things.
That they have a way...
brian simpson
That can't be far off.
joe rogan
Probably not far off.
brian simpson
Can I get another piece of that ice?
joe rogan
Yeah.
We've got to wrap this up soon, man.
We've got a show in an hour.
brian simpson
We do!
joe rogan
I know!
brian simpson
Okay, yeah, you're right, you're right.
Never mind.
Never mind.
joe rogan
We'll wrap this up.
But the whole point of all this is that...
Some things that you think are fucking super impossible and bizarre are actually true.
Like Epstein's Island.
That was actually a real place.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
They just did a book with your girl.
joe rogan
And they said she's on suicide watch.
Boy, she looks like she's on suicide watch.
brian simpson
She's gonna die.
joe rogan
Oh, those cameras.
I keep hitting them.
I'll fix it.
unidentified
Don't worry.
joe rogan
We'll fix it.
brian simpson
Yeah, she's not making it to Christmas.
joe rogan
Not a chance.
Not a chance she makes it into an interview.
brian simpson
Oh, dude, did you hear about...
A big theme for me this week has been the whole...
How people, like, get away with investigating themselves.
joe rogan
Investigating themselves?
brian simpson
Yeah, you'll hear a police department investigated themselves, or a company investigated themselves.
Internal investigation.
Yeah, no wrongdoing.
Turns out we followed all our protocols.
So the LAPD... So you know there's been all these rumors about there being gangs in the L.A. County Sheriff's Department.
joe rogan
Yes.
All the way back to Rampart days.
brian simpson
Yeah, so they just...
A police officer just died during training...
It was simulated mob training, like them being attacked by a mob, and his neck was broken in three places during training, which looks suspiciously like hazing.
joe rogan
Suffers injuries and training leading to death.
brian simpson
Wow.
Yeah, he died.
joe rogan
Training was beaten to simulate mob.
So they beat him to death?
brian simpson
They beat him to death.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
So they beat him to death.
Well, how do we know the facts of this, though?
What if he fell and broke his neck?
Well, it says it has to be a beating.
Terrible injuries all over his body.
It has to be a beating.
Gage has filed a governmental claim.
See, I'm not sure.
I don't know all.
It says tipping is not the first to be effectively murdered during training.
The family says they hope the lawsuit will bring an end to training exercise deaths.
brian simpson
All we know for sure is that he died and that it was during training.
joe rogan
Look at this.
One part of his head required staples.
He became a quadriplegic.
He was unable to breathe on his own.
His heart stopped.
Holy shit.
See, I don't know the details of that.
brian simpson
I don't.
But they're investigating themselves.
They're going to tell us.
He fell.
The speculation runs well.
The only statement they made was that he died while grappling with another officer.
joe rogan
Oh.
brian simpson
And I was like, I know a lot of dudes that grapple regularly.
And I know dudes that have gotten hurt grappling.
But I don't know anybody that's broken their neck in three places.
joe rogan
I do.
brian simpson
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, it can happen.
One of the ways it happens is if you go for a guillotine, when someone shoots a double, and you capture the guillotine, and as they shoot the double, they drive into it, and it lands on the head.
It's happened to guys.
There's a guy from Team Alpha Male who got paralyzed doing that, and I think that happened with Mark Coleman, but he didn't get paralyzed, but he did temporarily.
There's been guys who have done that, because if you think about it, right, like if someone shoots a double, they're driving in, it's natural for someone to get you in a headlock, right?
The head is right there, and if they hold onto your head and keep it out there, and then all their weight drives down, their head hits the ground with all of your weight, all of my weight, all on my head.
brian simpson
Right.
All on your neck.
joe rogan
All on your neck.
And the neck just shatters.
It's happened before.
More than one time I've heard of it.
It's dangerous.
brian simpson
So if that's the case, why don't they just say it was an accidental death?
joe rogan
Well, they said he died during training.
So the problem is they said he was beaten all over his body.
Now, if that's true, that's a different thing.
But I'm just giving you a scenario where someone could potentially break their neck in grappling.
brian simpson
But you know as well as I do, right?
We've both been a part of...
Manly organizations, sports, military, fighting.
And you know, to me, this sounds like hazing.
This sounds like a ritual that rookies go through or something.
They call it training, but it's really, we're going to beat your ass and then we're going to give you a little stripes or whatever they get afterwards.
And it probably got out of control.
joe rogan
It could be.
Or it could be mob training where guys aren't told to pull their shots and And they simulate if a guy's going to be attacked.
Like, can you get to your gun in time?
Can you get to your taser?
Can you get in your vehicle?
And then the guys who are doing it get out of control, and they hit people full blast.
Because sometimes people just hit people full blast.
There's guys like there's a lot of videos online you can watch with sparring matches that turn into fights because some guy hit someone full blast and then they just start winging at each other.
brian simpson
Yeah, some motherfuckers don't know how to act.
joe rogan
Exactly.
But if you're in a situation where you're simulating a mob attack, that is possible that that's what they were doing and somebody just crushed this dude.
brian simpson
I am biased because I don't...
The LAPD's reputation It's the best!
It's stellar!
They're the best!
They could be telling the truth.
I'm guessing the truth is somewhere in the middle.
joe rogan
Probably.
But you know that people do get fragged on purpose in the military and they'll blame it on the enemy if you don't like a guy.
brian simpson
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
It happens.
And I'm sure it happens in LAPD too.
brian simpson
There's another thing.
This could be a gang initiation.
joe rogan
Who knows?
brian simpson
Who knows what the fuck it could be?
joe rogan
I would lean towards training accident.
Because I think it is very possible that their training was not...
Who knows?
Who knows if they implemented it correctly, if they planned it correctly.
But it could also be a murder.
Who the fuck knows?
But what I'm saying is that it is definitely possible that it was an accident.
Unless he's got wounds all over his body.
Like, they say terrible wounds all over his body.
Like, what if they're using an object?
They're beating him with something?
I don't know what they were doing.
brian simpson
We need to send them to...
Oh, your boy!
So, I told you, I met Bert...
joe rogan
Soren?
brian simpson
Soren.
And he introduced me to a motherfucker that did...
He does this stuff called RPR. Have you heard of that?
joe rogan
PRP? PRP. Yes.
It's called platelet-rich plasma.
brian simpson
No, no, no, it's RPR. Different thing?
No, no, no, it's RPR. It's something reset.
jamie vernon
Where's that video?
Was it on someone's story or something?
I saw it.
brian simpson
It was me.
It was on Bert's story of me.
joe rogan
What is...
brian simpson
Fuck, I forget what the...
Fuck, he's going to be pissed at me.
No, RPR, but basically he...
It's basically like...
I don't even know how to explain it.
It's like bro yoga.
joe rogan
Like Dallas Diamond Page Yoga?
jamie vernon
Reflexive Performance Reset.
brian simpson
Okay, yeah.
So I told him that I hurt my shoulder a few years ago throwing axes.
And it's been hurting and hurting.
joe rogan
That's a manly way to hurt your shoulder.
brian simpson
It is, it is, right?
And he was like, okay, put your arm out like this here.
And when I push on it, try to push back.
And he pushed on it.
And then he was like, this is going to hurt.
And when he figured out where the pain was, he held up my arm and he like dug under here, like deep into, like it hurt like a motherfucker.
And because he's like, this tendon connects to here and connects to there.
And like, so he dug into my shoulder and all that shit.
And then he did it again.
And I fucked.
And then he, like, it worked.
And my shit stopped hurting.
joe rogan
So you had like an impingement or something?
brian simpson
Um, I... Yeah, I think I had an impingement a long time ago and it turned into a scar tissue and I was compensating for it.
And you know how it is, like, if you spend a long time You know, sitting wrong and you're not working out and this muscle gets weak and it's connected to this and connected to that.
It's like you can have a pain in your lower back that's really from some shit in your neck.
And so that's what he does.
He like figures out where it's actually coming from.
And he fucking, he digs in.
So basically he equated it to like acupuncture.
There's certain, I forget the term.
Pressure points.
There's certain clumps of fascia on the top layer of your muscle.
joe rogan
And you can separate them.
brian simpson
Yeah, he breaks that shit up and it hurts like a month.
And I got other people to do it.
They didn't believe me at first.
joe rogan
That's kind of one of the principles of rolfing, the idea behind rolfing.
It's like heavy manipulation of tissue.
It's really painful.
It's like a kind of massage, but they use tools sometimes, and they use elbows, and they just dig apart your tissue.
I used to go to this guy who was a rolfer, and I went to him for a while until he told me that Bruce Lee beat 100 men in competition once.
I was like, what are you talking about, man?
He's like, you know, he was explaining to me, like, he didn't know that I'm a martial arts guy, so I'm telling him about, maybe he did, but anyway, I'm telling him about my injury, and he's helping me with my injury, but then he gives me some nonsense about how Bruce Lee was once in a martial arts match with a hundred different individuals, and he beat them all because he had full control of his mind and his body.
I go, what?
What?
I let you touch me?
Like you're a crazy person practicing voodoo on me.
But manipulating like with like heavy-duty deep tissue massage and rolfing.
I mean, I don't think rolfing is bad.
I think this guy was kind of kooky.
But rolfing itself is very effective.
Like sometimes you need the kind of massage that fucking hurts.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
That's what I need.
That's what I'm going to get, too.
joe rogan
You know what you should do?
It's a really good thing if you have access to a chin-up bar.
A really good thing for your shoulders is just hang.
Hanging is one of the best things.
It's really good for your shoulders because most of the time our shoulders are just getting compacted all the time.
You're pushing things and it's like pushed against this.
You're sleeping on it.
You need it to stretch out.
And sometimes all that impingement can all be fixed just by hanging from a chin-up bar.
You don't have to even do chin-ups.
Just hang from it.
Do as long as you can.
Ten seconds, whatever.
Build your way up.
But there's a whole bunch of videos on YouTube that are dedicated to the values of hanging from chin-up bars.
brian simpson
One of my favorite things you've got in there is that inversion table.
joe rogan
That's really good, too.
brian simpson
I weigh too much for it now, I think.
joe rogan
The best one is the one that hinges at the waist.
It's called the Dex 3. I never heard of that.
I'll show it to you.
It's out there.
That one's the shit.
It hinges at the waist instead of hanging from your ankles.
That one's the best because the other one is really good, but you're kind of holding yourself with your leg muscles.
This one, it's all just your waist.
So you're sitting with all of your weight, essentially.
It's almost like a leg curl type setup.
And your back goes pop, pop, pop.
brian simpson
I need that.
We got one here.
joe rogan
I'll show it to you right now.
brian simpson
I'm buying it.
I'm in my house.
joe rogan
It's called a Teeter Dex 3?
Dex 2. Teeter Dex 2. Teeter been in the game for a minute.
It's the shit.
That thing is the shit.
I recommend that to everybody.
The other one's good too.
But I think that one is particularly good.
brian simpson
Yeah, because would you agree?
Flexibility is probably the most...
Underrated fitness parameter.
joe rogan
It's very important.
Range of motion.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would put two of them together.
Range of motion is flexibility.
Flexibility is range of motion.
Because if you have more flexibility, you have more range of motion.
But there's certain things in certain people, they're bound up.
They're bound up in their neck and their back.
If you stretched out, you would have more pliability, be more supple.
brian simpson
I need that.
I've always had that.
Everybody in my family, we all got necks like this.
If I purposely was trying to kill myself by just eating fucking cake 24-7, my neck would still be like this.
We all are built like we fucking...
joe rogan
Like wrestlers.
brian simpson
Yeah.
My whole family.
And so I just...
I ignored flexibility and range of motion for so long.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't ignore that.
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
For longevity and just for overall health, you should really concentrate on those things.
brian simpson
I ain't trying to be one of those old people that's got a fucking tiptoe everywhere.
joe rogan
Or you can't bend over to tie your own shoes.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or you start wearing slippers.
brian simpson
Or your ACL just goes in the swimming pool.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
Or you just putting on shoes one day and you fucking lose an MCL. Fuck that.
joe rogan
It's a horrible video of this fucking old dude who was...
I'll send it to you, Jamie, because I saved it.
This fucking old dude was walking on, like, a walker.
He was, like, really old.
And in the middle of him walking, this fucking bull comes up behind him and just jacks him for no reason.
It's horrific.
Have you seen it?
brian simpson
No, I haven't seen it.
joe rogan
I'm gonna find it, Jamie.
You got it?
Oh, it's so sad.
Watch this shit.
This dude's so old.
unidentified
Karma?
joe rogan
Nope, that's not even the one.
I'll find it.
I know I saved it.
unidentified
Man.
brian simpson
Yo, have you seen...
unidentified
Have you seen the one of the elephant?
joe rogan
Which one of the elephant?
brian simpson
The elephant, he fucking...
He kills this lady.
joe rogan
Oof.
brian simpson
And then he comes back to her funeral and violates her corpse.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
brian simpson
Yeah, he, uh...
Hold on, I'll send it to you.
joe rogan
I can't find this.
I thought I had it.
brian simpson
He, uh...
Trello.
Yes.
joe rogan
God, I swore I saved that video.
Which one?
brian simpson
Oh yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
Oh.
What does he do?
So the elephant trampled a woman to death.
Go back to that so I can read it.
Trampled a woman to death at the Raipal village in Odisha on June 9. The herd attacked the village again when she was being taken for cremation the same evening.
Oh.
brian simpson
Yeah, they came back for that bitch.
joe rogan
They came back.
brian simpson
Yeah, yeah.
She did something to that motherfucker.
joe rogan
Perhaps.
brian simpson
Like, most people fucking with animals.
I mean, sometimes it's unfortunate you don't realize you stumbled onto somebody's nest or something.
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
But sometimes it's because, like, you're fucking with the wrong animal.
joe rogan
Oh, Snoop had it on his page.
Here, Jamie, I'll send it to you.
I found it.
unidentified
Alright, I'm Bluetoothing it to you right now.
joe rogan
There you go.
This is rough.
Let's look at this.
Imagine this, you live your whole life, you're in a fucking walker, and then boom.
That's it.
Watch this.
brian simpson
Oh, fuck!
joe rogan
Fuck, indeed.
I mean, you have no idea it's coming, and then all of a sudden, the end.
brian simpson
Is that an old woman?
joe rogan
That's an old woman, I think.
It might be an old man.
It's hard to tell.
But that's the end.
100% the end.
jamie vernon
If it was on Big Beast's page, she'd be okay.
joe rogan
What's that mean?
jamie vernon
She's okay.
brian simpson
She is?
Oh, oh.
unidentified
That's a joke.
jamie vernon
Everybody's okay.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You said Big Beast.
brian simpson
The Black Beast.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I'm sorry, yeah.
joe rogan
I was like, what are you talking about?
jamie vernon
I thought you were talking about- I think I said it wrong.
I didn't know which thing I said it wrong.
joe rogan
I thought you were saying Mr. Beast.
I didn't know what you were saying.
brian simpson
Because see, I always get- See, the part that really hurt right there was the fact that She might have been fine if she didn't have the walker.
joe rogan
No, she was fucked.
brian simpson
But that joint, it hit her right with the pussy bone?
joe rogan
She was going flying.
brian simpson
Yeah?
joe rogan
She was going flying no matter what.
brian simpson
Yeah, because you're already at the point where you need the walker.
joe rogan
Yeah, she was going flying.
And she's landing on her head, too.
That's how the universe decided to take her out.
Just a random wild bull.
unidentified
Oh, you think she's dead?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brian simpson
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Look how old she is.
Dude, she flipped up in the air and landed headfirst on the concrete.
That's a wrap.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, I'm not sure.
brian simpson
And then the legs landed on top of the walker.
joe rogan
It didn't look good.
brian simpson
It didn't, yeah.
joe rogan
All right.
We got a show in less than an hour.
So let's wrap this up.
brian simpson
Let's do it.
joe rogan
Brian Simpson, you're the fucking man.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Tell everybody about your Netflix special.
It's available.
brian simpson
Netflix special.
I also have an interview with David Letterman on Netflix called That's My Time.
I also have a hit podcast, BS with Brian Simpson.
I also have tour dates coming up at briansimpsoncomedy.com.
Go check it out.
unidentified
Bye, everybody.
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