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Dec. 24, 2021 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1752 - Tim Dillon
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unidentified
I don't know if I'm going to buy Rolls Royce, but I do like them.
joe rogan
What about a Cadillac?
I think you're more of a Cadillac guy.
unidentified
Well, that's a knock.
tim dillon
Right?
unidentified
No, they're great.
tim dillon
That's kind of a knock.
joe rogan
No, they're great cars.
tim dillon
It's a Long Island...
Aren't you?
Yeah, it's a car for a Long Island guy who's a little full of shit.
joe rogan
From Long Island?
tim dillon
Yeah.
I can see myself in Escalade.
joe rogan
They're great.
tim dillon
They're amazing.
There's a lot of guys who want to be Tony Soprano.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
Who aren't Tony Soprano, who like the Sopranos, who drive Escalades.
joe rogan
That is an issue.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like pinky rings.
You really can't wear a pinky ring.
tim dillon
It's a car where when you're driving in it, you're in a movie that no one's watching except you and you're starring in it.
joe rogan
If you've got that Soprano song, Woke Up This Morning.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Well, you like only pretty much fast cars.
joe rogan
No, I like all kinds of cars.
tim dillon
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
You're not like a luxury sedan guy.
joe rogan
I've had them.
tim dillon
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've had them before.
tim dillon
What was the best one?
joe rogan
I had a BMW 7 Series.
tim dillon
They're great.
joe rogan
It was amazing.
tim dillon
I love them, yeah.
joe rogan
It was really comfortable.
tim dillon
Yeah, those are great.
joe rogan
It's just like you feel like you're insulated from the world.
tim dillon
Yeah, I feel like those cars I love, but I also feel like a dentist.
Because my dentist had it, like in Long Island, dentists have BMW 7 Series or Mercedes S500s.
That's like the car for like your doctor.
joe rogan
That's a nice car too.
The Benz S-Class?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very nice car.
tim dillon
Those are nice.
Yeah, those are nice.
joe rogan
I got the Tesla, the new Plaid.
tim dillon
The fast one.
joe rogan
It's preposterous.
tim dillon
It's insane.
joe rogan
But the steering wheel's dumb.
tim dillon
It's a yoke.
joe rogan
I'm not a fan of the steering wheel.
tim dillon
You gotta talk to your boy.
joe rogan
I don't know what to tell him.
He's dead set on the yoke.
tim dillon
What is the yoke?
joe rogan
It's like a Formula One car.
It's got a handle on here and a handle on here.
Not only that, the horn is not this anymore.
It's not hit the center.
It's a button that you have to awkwardly move your thumb to get to, to hit, and you have to know that's the steering wheel.
See what the horn is?
See the little horn icon?
Fuck that thing.
I'm not a fan of that.
When I grab the top, my thumb, if extended, does go where the horn is, like, perfectly.
But I want to hit the center.
That's where the horn is.
The horn's the center.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Old habits die hard.
joe rogan
And the blinkers.
You see the blinkers?
They're on the left-hand side.
That's left and right.
So you have to look.
Instead of, like, the little stick, I like the stick.
The left, right, left, right.
It's easy.
tim dillon
My problem with Tesla is my producer is a Tesla, and people that have Teslas, Think they've done well, but what is it?
It's like a $35,000 car, right?
It's a cheap car.
joe rogan
Depends on which one you get.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
That one is, the S is, how much does that cost?
It's well over $100,000.
tim dillon
Right.
But I think the beginners, you can get them for like $38,000.
joe rogan
You can get the three.
Yeah.
It's a great car, though.
Sure.
If you want a car that's reliable, fast as fuck, great battery life, easy to drive.
tim dillon
But it's too much of a cult.
Everybody who's in it talks about it.
joe rogan
That's me.
I've known that cult.
tim dillon
You know the guy, right?
But there's people out there that are talking about Starlink satellites and SpaceX.
And it's like, guys, shut up.
You know, they feel like they're part of this revolutionary force, but you just bought a car.
joe rogan
It's like how Apple was in the 90s.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
People just get too involved.
joe rogan
People would talk about it and they would say, we've got a new operating system coming out.
I'm like, we.
tim dillon
Right.
Yeah.
Who's we?
unidentified
We.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Who's we?
joe rogan
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
No, it's too...
My producer, when he got it, Ben, when he got it, would just talk endlessly about it and everything that it did and how cool it was.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
That's the problem.
The problem it is, it is a fucking amazing car.
The car is...
You've been in my other one?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Remember how fast that was?
tim dillon
It's very fast.
joe rogan
Of Gary Rodgers and the Improv?
tim dillon
It's very fast.
joe rogan
This one's twice as fast.
tim dillon
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It's insanity.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds for a full-size four-door sedan.
tim dillon
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's nuts.
What's the top speed?
175 miles an hour or something crazy.
I think it's limited.
tim dillon
Did they govern it or something?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Probably does.
I mean, it's fucking insane.
It's like a thousand horsepower.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's got three engines.
tim dillon
Do you worry about other people having, like, a car that's that fast?
joe rogan
Yeah, you should.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
You should.
It's like, well, I worry about that with everything.
With Corvettes, with, you know, you could just go to a store and buy a fucking race car.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Buy a car that would outperform most GT3 cars from, you know, 20 years ago.
Most cars that people raced.
Okay.
167 miles an hour.
Which is, uh, that's the fastest, I guess, it goes.
Um, okay.
Well, the ability to merge is the most incredible thing.
Like if you hit an on-ramp and you have an opening, it's just...
It just goes.
tim dillon
Because you can just...
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It just goes.
tim dillon
Hit.
Right.
joe rogan
But it's not hard to drive slow.
It's not like it's uncomfortable.
Some fast cars, they're like herky-jerky.
It's not like that at all.
It's very smooth.
tim dillon
Do you think the EV market is just the future in terms of what we're going to see?
joe rogan
Battery material?
That's my question.
tim dillon
Well, we'll start a few wars.
I mean, what do they need?
Lithium ion?
We can go back in Afghanistan.
joe rogan
I think they're going to war with Nevada right now, because they're pulling it out of Nevada.
tim dillon
Well, they're going to South America, too.
There's a lot of different, you know...
Yeah, minerals down there, sure.
joe rogan
Where do they get most of their lithium?
I think they are doing it in Nevada now.
I did read something about Nevada being a hotbed for lithium.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Well, that's the thing now.
All these new tech companies are very progressive and they have all these electric cars, but...
They're mining these minerals that they need for their products in a lot of different places, and I'm sure they're not always doing this on the up and up.
joe rogan
No.
Well, we went over this the other day about Africa and coltan, and that at the heart of every cell phone is this mineral called coltan, and where they get coltan is like people are literally digging it out of the ground in the Congo.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
And they're working in horrific conditions, and it's fucking horrible, dirty work.
What is this?
unidentified
Australia.
jamie vernon
The biggest mine is in Australia, but the biggest company is an American company in Chile, Australia, in the U.S. Interesting.
Big market cap.
joe rogan
Well, it's funny that they get it out of Australia.
I don't feel bad about it at all.
If they take it from Australia, that's fine.
tim dillon
Yeah, that's who cares.
That's fine.
Take their minerals.
joe rogan
They've lost their mind.
tim dillon
They've gone insane.
joe rogan
No one's lost their mind better than Australia.
And it's a great sign that everyone needs guns.
tim dillon
Well, it was shocking that...
It was that country.
Because I always thought that country was like a party.
Everybody was just having fun.
But it is a penal colony.
And a lot of the people there...
You know, are the descendants of criminals.
And from knowing people that live in Australia, they don't love work, which is okay, right?
Like their culture is not about working.
So if somebody says, hey, sit in your yard and get hammered for a year.
They don't ask too many questions.
They go, let's do it.
But then it gets increasingly more and more draconian and crazy and they're doing face scans and they're checking your cup.
Did you really go for coffee?
Let me see if you have coffee in your cup.
But it's crazy.
joe rogan
I saw that video.
tim dillon
That was crazy.
joe rogan
Checking that lady.
Is it a gut lady?
tim dillon
Yeah.
Do you have coffee in your cup?
joe rogan
To make sure she can have her mask down to be drinking.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's insane.
But this is after 9-11.
You get patted down, you'll get molested.
The TSA will molest you at an airport for no reason.
They're molesting an 85-year-old grandmother from Kentucky.
joe rogan
In case she's a terrorist.
tim dillon
In case she has a bomb hidden.
So this is a problem, right?
I mean, unless people restore...
Hopefully this variant...
Sweeps, it's mild, everybody's got natural immunity, and we move on.
joe rogan
I don't think that's gonna happen.
tim dillon
Yeah, maybe not.
joe rogan
The reality of human beings is once you give people power, they don't give it back.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's what's going on now with fucking Lori Lightfoot in Chicago.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Says she's gonna make it inconvenient for everybody who doesn't have a vaccine.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the bottom line is the vaccine doesn't work on this variant.
They're saying it's a vaccine escape variant.
tim dillon
So does it keep you out of the hospital?
joe rogan
What keeps you out of the hospital?
Being healthy.
Supposedly...
The idea that the only thing that keeps you out of the hospital is medicine.
tim dillon
Well, no, I don't think it's the only thing, but I get my news from Donald Trump, who told Candace Owens that the vaccine is a miracle, and it worked.
joe rogan
Well, because he came up with it.
tim dillon
Yeah, but a lot of people are saying that if you...
joe rogan
Not really him, obviously.
tim dillon
You're prevented from death, which, by the way, is the last...
I mean, it started with, you won't get it, and then it was, you might get it, but you won't get sick.
Then it was, well, you'll get sick.
Now it's, you won't die.
joe rogan
Have you seen the breakdown?
tim dillon
It's an American product.
joe rogan
It is American product.
tim dillon
It's an American product.
Truly, it's an American product.
By the end of it, it's like, hey, you might not die, which is many of our products.
joe rogan
But you might.
tim dillon
Sure, you could.
joe rogan
But less people will die.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Allegedly.
I don't think we really know...
I think we're going to find out, I think, years from now, what this whole thing was.
joe rogan
Well, for sure, there's a lot of money involved.
And whenever there's a lot of money involved, then there's fuckery.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
And there's for sure fuckery involved.
tim dillon
Sure.
joe rogan
And have you ever seen the compilation of what Fauci said at the beginning of the vaccine distribution versus now?
tim dillon
No.
joe rogan
You've never seen that video?
tim dillon
I'm sure it's...
Well, because I remember it, though, because I remember that the idea was that you wouldn't contract it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're not going to get the virus.
tim dillon
And that the breakthrough cases would be rare.
Very rare.
Extremely rare.
We all got it early.
Everyone that I know got it early because we believed it was like putting a wristband on and you could go into Six Flags.
Basically, it was like, oh, I have it.
Let's go.
Party's on.
joe rogan
But now it's not even you need a booster.
tim dillon
Now it is the booster.
joe rogan
California, all the state workers now have to have a booster.
tim dillon
And that's the third.
joe rogan
That's the third.
tim dillon
And Israel's on the fourth.
joe rogan
Yes, they're on the fourth.
There's no science about this, by the way.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no data on whether or not the fourth helps you.
There's also no data.
What does it do?
tim dillon
It refreshes their...
The claim is that it refreshes the antibodies.
joe rogan
Gives you a little extra boost.
tim dillon
Gives you a boost.
unidentified
It's a boost.
It's a little boost.
tim dillon
I think the term booster should go.
joe rogan
It's a bump.
It's a bump of cocaine.
tim dillon
I think saying, giving someone a boost, there should be more of a medical way.
To describe it.
Listen, they are saying that the vast majority of people that are dying are unvaccinated.
That seems to be...
joe rogan
That's not true.
tim dillon
That's what they're saying.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think that's true anymore.
I think...
tim dillon
It may be that death is very rare...
No matter what?
joe rogan
It depends on what you read.
tim dillon
Below a certain age.
joe rogan
When I'm saying that's not true.
I'm reading a bunch of different stories on people being vaccinated, unvaccinated.
Here's a real problem with a lack of treatment.
That's a real problem.
There's also a real problem in that when you get checked in.
But when you get checked into a hospital, if you already checked in, they no longer will give you monoclonal antibodies.
You literally have to get monoclonal antibodies in the emergency room.
If you get checked into the hospital, then there's no monitoring.
tim dillon
And you're already too sick.
joe rogan
Which doesn't make any sense.
It literally makes no sense.
tim dillon
Right.
I was listening to Peter McCullough, and I don't know if this diminishes his credibility, I bought crack off him in downtown Austin three days ago.
joe rogan
He's got good crack.
tim dillon
Yeah, but other than that, He was saying that you need to get on an early treatment regimen.
I think we're having these weird conversations that are kind of in a box because so many people don't have healthcare.
They're afraid to go to the emergency room.
They're afraid to go to a doctor.
They don't have the money.
They can't take off work.
So the idea that having this for-profit healthcare system where everybody's trying to make money seems to be a real...
Impetus to getting people early treatment because most people can't get early treatment because they're terrified of spending the money.
They don't know what they're going to get hit in the mail for.
joe rogan
That's true.
tim dillon
So it seems to be like, I think everything he was saying about getting on early stuff makes sense if you have healthcare.
joe rogan
Well, even if you don't have healthcare, the thing about Ivermectin is that it's very inexpensive.
Whether or not it actually works as the people that are proponents of it, I think it does, remains to be seen.
tim dillon
Did you give it out for Halloween?
joe rogan
I gave it to everybody.
tim dillon
Okay, because I heard that you were giving it out for Halloween at the house.
joe rogan
I got a room full of it in my house.
tim dillon
I heard you were just giving it out to people.
joe rogan
I opened it, it sounds like angel voices.
tim dillon
I feel like you have a DuckTales vat of Ivermectin that you swim in every day.
Just like, you know, remember DuckTales had the coins?
It's just you and Ivermectin just doing backstroke in Ivermectin.
joe rogan
I never thought that that was going to be a big deal.
I really didn't.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
When I was bringing that up, I was bringing it up because it was a thing that was on a laundry list of stuff I took.
It was one of the things.
tim dillon
It's forever associated.
joe rogan
Connected to me.
tim dillon
Isn't it funny that like a year ago, if they said you're going to be in this crazy controversy about a drug, you'd be like, what are you talking about?
joe rogan
Why would I do that?
That doesn't even make any sense.
tim dillon
Right.
Yeah.
One of the things that's been very strange about this is watching how people get very...
There are certain things in society where people's quote-unquote lived experience is the most important thing.
If you identify as a different gender, whatever.
If you are mentally unwell and say, I can't perform certain duties, you go, I respect that.
But if you say, I took Ivermectin and I felt better, people turn around and go, shut up!
It's weird.
That's weird.
joe rogan
Well, they got tricked.
They got tricked into doing this by the media.
And the media over and over and over again said disproven, conspiracy theory, horse dewormer.
They said all these things.
But what they ignored is how effective it's been in other countries.
tim dillon
Right.
But Japan, which is not an alt-right...
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
Reddit thread.
It's Japan.
They were like, we're authorizing the use of ivermectin.
joe rogan
And they had a giant drop-off of COVID cases.
The same thing happened in parts of India.
tim dillon
You can get it in Texas.
Like when I had COVID, my doctor just wrote me a prescription for ivermectin.
joe rogan
Some doctors.
I know a doctor who's actually being brought in front of the medical board being subpoenaed because this doctor prescribed ivermectin to patients with COVID and they want to know why.
So this is actually like they're being brought in front of a fucking board about a drug that if you go to the critical care frontline COVID critical care group, people have done it for thousands of people.
There's all sorts of at least anecdotal tales of people getting better after ivermectin.
They do know that it stops viral replication in vitro, which means in a lab culture.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
They do know that other countries have reported significant success.
They have these RCTs, these randomized controlled trials that they can list over and over and over again about ivermectin.
The problem is it's like the data is kind of sloppy.
Like some of it is they used it in prophylaxis, which means they use it as a preventative measure.
Some of it they used it in early care.
Some of it they used it deep into the sickness.
So it's like you We don't know.
And also, there's clearly some kind of a conspiracy to try to demonize that medication.
When you look at the amount of people that said, horse dewormer, horse dewormer, you look at the bullshit story that was in the Rolling Stone that was proven to be absolutely not real about people waiting in line at the hospital.
They couldn't get into the emergency room with gunshot wounds because so many people in there with horse dewormers.
tim dillon
Which is what?
Proven untrue.
joe rogan
Not just proven untrue, just a fabrication.
tim dillon
Well, it's a bad...
I think the idea that there's a vaccine that's available and people are being mandated to take it rubs people the wrong way.
joe rogan
Well, also because people are vaccinated and still getting sick and still spreading it.
And they're trying to pretend that's not the case.
tim dillon
I think that it's been a big problem watching the sales pitch Because to me it should be, the vaccine is available, if you take it, it should reduce your likelihood of getting sick.
That should not be, you shouldn't lose your job.
That's what I was saying.
I was like, it seems crazy to me.
To fire somebody and make them destitute, broke, homeless, right?
Because they will not take a vaccine.
joe rogan
Not only that, a lot of them are nurses.
And nurses have already got COVID. So they've had COVID. They recovered.
They have better antibodies.
tim dillon
Well, that's the thing.
joe rogan
A lot of people- Stronger antibodies.
tim dillon
There's people that aren't anti-vax per se, but they say, I have natural immunity.
So that never made sense to me.
The mandates never made sense.
I didn't get that.
joe rogan
Even the term vaccine is incorrect.
It's a gene therapy.
It's a different thing.
A vaccine is like smallpox.
You get it and then you never get smallpox or like measles.
You know, once you have the vaccine, you don't have to worry about it anymore.
That's for the vast majority of people.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
That's what a vaccine is supposed to be.
This is something where you have to get three of them in a fucking year.
tim dillon
But this is like when I used to sell mortgages, you would get a mortgage and then two years later you would get a refinance.
So here's what you're not realizing.
If I'm Pfizer, I don't want to just be in your life for one transaction.
I'm your partner for life.
joe rogan
Right.
Forever.
tim dillon
So every couple of years, I'm going to call you up and say, Hi, Mr. Rogan.
How are you?
And we're going to do it again.
We're going to get a boost.
That's the American way we sell everything.
There's not one product on the American market that people go, you got it, you're good.
Not one.
Every single product.
You could go buy an air conditioner.
The guy's like, and when you have a kid and you need another one, you come back here.
Like, this is just kind of in our DNA.
It's also weird that there's three vaccines.
joe rogan
They're telling you not to take the Johnson& Johnson anymore.
tim dillon
Right, but that's weird.
When the CEOs of the vaccines are making fun of each other, that doesn't make you feel good.
I remember people got the Johnson& Johnson, and then we were an hour away from getting it.
They discontinued it.
Me and a bunch of people in LA. That didn't make you feel good.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
It shouldn't be, I think...
I mean, capitalism has some great things, but I wonder if we should...
The vaccine shouldn't be like...
One of these products where it's like, you know how Wendy's and Arby's fight on Twitter as a joke?
I don't think a life-saving vaccine should have that.
Like, I don't think Moderna and Pfizer should be fighting with each other.
But it doesn't make you feel good about it.
joe rogan
I don't think Moderna and Pfizer are fighting with each other, but different countries...
tim dillon
Well, they'll knock each other.
Like, the CEO, Jimmy can even look.
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, you could find that.
Pfizer has knocked Moderna, really?
tim dillon
The CEO, they made some comment.
joe rogan
We only killed 30,000 people.
tim dillon
They made some comment.
How many people do you think really died from the vaccine?
Do you think people are...
joe rogan
Because I know so many people...
100% people have died from the vaccine.
tim dillon
Well, for sure, right?
Yeah, but we don't know how many.
joe rogan
We do know that historically, the VAERS, which is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, the VAERS reports have been under, like, whatever underreported means.
There was one article that Harvard put out a paper about, I think it was about the HPV vaccine.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
And they were saying that VAERS underreported as significantly as 1%.
So it was like 99% unreported.
1% reported.
So out of 100 events, one of them would get reported.
tim dillon
Is there any chance people on VAERS are just having fun?
joe rogan
I don't think that's the case, but yes.
It's always a chance.
tim dillon
I would like to go on VAERS and just have a Yelp review.
Just for fun.
And just say the vaccine killed my whole family.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
Just for fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
But if I can do that, the question is, maybe other people, but maybe not.
I think you have to say the name of your doctor.
There's more that goes into it.
joe rogan
Peter McCullough was describing how difficult it is to file a VAERS claim and what has to be, you know, it's complicated.
And it's also, it comes with criminal penalties if it's your full shit.
It's for sure people have died.
The question is how many?
I think they're reporting now 18,000 deaths.
But what is that?
It's the VAERS. But you also have to think about the sheer numbers of people that have taken the vaccine.
If it's 18,000 deaths and you're dealing with 230 plus million people that have taken the vaccine, a lot of people are like, that's not that bad.
Yeah.
Unless it's your family, then it's horrible.
Unless it's someone that's close to you.
Unless it's your young child, which is some of the people who died.
tim dillon
Is it possible any of the people who died from the vaccine were racist?
joe rogan
Could be.
Could be.
tim dillon
I'm just trying to look at silver linings.
joe rogan
Yeah, you should.
tim dillon
You know?
joe rogan
You always should.
tim dillon
I mean, some of them might have said things that they shouldn't have said.
joe rogan
They might have lied about their taxes.
They might not have paid their fair share.
tim dillon
It's hard to know, right?
It's really difficult to know.
Because then there's people, and this is embarrassing, who are very anti-vax and die.
Like all these right-wing radio guys.
They're very anti-vax.
joe rogan
Those guys always die.
Isn't that interesting?
tim dillon
And they call it the Herman Cain Award.
joe rogan
Is that what they call it?
tim dillon
They call it the Herman Cain Award.
They're very anti-vax, and then they die.
And that's embarrassing, too.
So you're like, it's hard when you have a stance.
It's like, you gotta be right.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
Because that's very embarrassing when these guys are like, fuck the vaccine.
I'll never take the vaccine.
unidentified
And then they're in the hospital going, take the vaccine!
tim dillon
And then they die.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's ever really happened.
tim dillon
Oh, it's happened a million times.
joe rogan
But they say, take the vaccine.
tim dillon
Oh, yeah.
I hear that.
That guy, Phil Valentine.
joe rogan
I hear that.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I want recordings.
tim dillon
I agree.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if I was promoting a vaccine, I would want to say, on his deathbed, he was telling people to take the vaccine.
tim dillon
But it makes sense, right?
Like, if your whole thing was, don't take it, and then you die.
So that's one of the things where it's like, You don't want to be that guy.
joe rogan
Well, here's the other thing that drives me crazy is that for so many people that have caught it, they tell you just to go home and come back when your oxygen rate dips below 92. Yeah, that's not good care.
That's a lot of what happens though.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
There's no treatment for a lot of people.
Every doctor treats it a different way in that regard.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the ones that aren't, you know...
The ones that have got on it early, like Peter McCullough and Dr. Pierre Corey, they prescribed a whole cocktail of things to take, and they had great effect with it.
Another thing is that fluvoxamine.
Now, Peter Attia was posting something about fluvoxamine.
I think it was about fluvoxamine the other day.
They're trying to stop people from taking fluvoxamine.
For COVID, which has been proven to be very effective.
It's actually an SSRI. And for some reason, it works very well to prevent some infections of COVID. What's weird is people trying to stop people from taking medication is very weird.
Because they have a binary approach.
tim dillon
It's a very suspect.
joe rogan
You need to take the vaccine.
You need to take the vaccine.
But it's also the vaccine has become, in a lot of ways, almost like a religious thing.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like you have to believe in the vaccine.
It's like you have to do this thing.
tim dillon
I understand that they're trying to say that these things aren't a replacement for a vaccine, but I don't know why you can't say, hey, we've got an effective vaccine and here are treatments as well.
joe rogan
Because you don't make as much money on the vaccine.
Look, clearly the vaccines have influence on media.
If you watch that video compilation, Anderson Cooper brought to you by Pfizer.
You've seen that compilation.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
It's show after show after show brought to you by Pfizer.
Clearly, that is going to limit their ability to criticize.
Right.
It's just going to.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's just going to.
I mean, whether it's a spoken or unspoken thing, there's going to be some pushback.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that has an effect.
And also it has an effect, the term anti-vaxxer has an effect.
So there's a lot of people who want to take the vaccine.
unidentified
But you're not.
tim dillon
You've gotten other vaccines?
unidentified
I've got all of them.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everything except COVID, and I almost got COVID. I almost took the COVID vaccine.
tim dillon
I remember you almost took it.
joe rogan
The only reason why I did it is because the UFC wanted me to go to a hospital instead of...
I thought I could do it at the UFC offices.
I went there, and that was the understanding.
And they're like, for whatever reason, whether it's the CDC or whatever, they said, you got to go down to the hospital.
I said, well, I can't today.
Today's the fight.
I was going to do it the day of the fights.
I was just like, shoot me up.
I didn't even think of a side effect.
I was like, we're going to be...
Nobody even knew side effects were a thing back then.
But then, they pulled it.
I was supposed to come back within two weeks.
I said, I'll come back in two weeks because I'm going to be back here again.
And I go, I'll just come a day early and we'll do it at the hospital.
And then they pulled it during that time period.
And I was like, what the fuck?
And then two people I knew had strokes.
And then I was like, what is going on?
tim dillon
And they had a stroke after they took the vaccine.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
And that was Johnson& Johnson.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And that's the one that they're telling people to not take now because of rare blood clots.
Like, how rare is it that you're telling people not to take it?
But did they get COVID? I don't know, but I know two people who did get COVID that took the Johnson& Johnson, including Dana White.
tim dillon
He got COVID. But even the people that had strokes, they didn't get COVID. They might have got COVID after they got strokes.
Right.
joe rogan
A lot of people did.
tim dillon
My point is that I think a stroke is a small price to pay for peace of mind.
joe rogan
If it's a minor stroke.
tim dillon
I think if you have a stroke, you have peace of mind.
And you know that you're not going to be sick.
I'd rather stroke out in a CVS after getting a vaccine than have to deal with COVID. My friend just almost stroked out in a Walgreens.
After the vaccine?
joe rogan
They shot him up and then they give you 15 minutes.
tim dillon
All my friends are horribly unhealthy.
They're all comedians, but none of them have had a stroke.
joe rogan
Well, this guy, it took his booster just last week.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And within 15 minutes, they had to take him to the hospital.
His heart started racing and pounding, and he was freaking out, and he couldn't breathe, and he had to lie down, and then they took him off in an ambulance.
tim dillon
And this is a dude you just...
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a guy I know from L.A. Yeah.
tim dillon
Not good.
joe rogan
Not good.
Yeah.
There's that thing.
They tell you, wait here for 15 minutes in case you die.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he almost died.
tim dillon
They told my agent that, and he goes, I'd rather die in my Tesla than die in Walgreens.
And he got in his car and left.
joe rogan
Stroked out on the highway.
tim dillon
Real L.A. response.
He goes, I'd rather die on the 101. Fuck you.
Listen, it seems to be one of those situations where it's obviously you don't want to stroke out in a CVS. But you don't want to be one of these people who didn't take it, and then you're in ICU going, I was wrong!
joe rogan
Right, but how many of those people could have been saved with monoclonal antibodies?
I don't know.
How about most of them?
tim dillon
Perhaps.
joe rogan
I bet a lot of them.
tim dillon
Some of them.
If you get it early enough.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's people that got it pretty deep in, and they still did really well.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I knew a guy who got it 14 days in.
He was wrecked.
And then 14 days in, he finally got a hold of monoclonal antibodies, cleared it right up.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Within three days, he said he was good to go.
tim dillon
But he's not working for the new variant.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you think that's true?
tim dillon
Well, Ben took it.
He wasn't.
The monoclonal didn't really affect him.
Like, for me, for Delta, I was better two days later.
joe rogan
Listen to that word, Delta.
How do you know what variant you got?
tim dillon
That was the one that was spreading in the summer.
joe rogan
Yeah, me too.
But what happened to the first one?
It took a vacation?
tim dillon
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's not around anymore?
It's not working anymore?
tim dillon
Well, that was the one they were talking about.
joe rogan
Yeah, but how do we know?
Oh, I don't know.
This is what's driving me crazy.
unidentified
I have no idea.
joe rogan
We're going to pull the monoclonal antibodies because Omicron, it's not effective for Omicron.
What about all the people that don't have Omicron?
tim dillon
That have the other one, yeah.
joe rogan
Do you think the Delta's still around?
tim dillon
Sure.
joe rogan
Did it stop?
tim dillon
It's weird that they're pulling it in general.
Why would you pull a medication?
joe rogan
Dude, I don't buy any of this shit.
I have seen so much fuckery.
I've talked to so many doctors that are talking about this.
I've seen doctors get removed off of Twitter for suggesting off-label use of medications that have been proven to be effective, at least anecdotally.
tim dillon
It's very strange that people are being penalized for prescribing harmless medication.
joe rogan
Literally harmless.
Or the best thing you could do is just do nothing.
It's either that or do nothing.
tim dillon
Yeah.
It's strange.
It's absolutely strange.
I think that it's a hard call to make with the vaccine because there are people that have gotten hospitalized and died that don't have it.
So that makes people go, oh, fuck.
joe rogan
I think if you have the vaccine, you are clearly better protected than someone who doesn't have the vaccine, particularly if you're not in good shape.
If you're not healthy.
tim dillon
Which is the majority of America.
joe rogan
It's like, what did we say the other day?
40% of America is obese?
Is that what it was?
tim dillon
Oh, it's more.
It's much more.
joe rogan
Something highly.
tim dillon
And then the ones that aren't are like, a lot of them are pill heads.
joe rogan
Yes.
tim dillon
Or they're overworked, they're stressed, they're drunks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
They're dark with pedophiles.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that are fucked.
tim dillon
The country's a mess.
joe rogan
And how many people are on medications that also disturb your immune system?
tim dillon
100%.
joe rogan
A lot of people.
There's a lot of people that are on.
tim dillon
Well, the other thing is we ignore, you know, part of the COVID thing has been it's taken all of the oxygen out of the conversation.
We have an opioid epidemic.
We have all kinds of other health problems, too.
joe rogan
More people have died from opioids this year, from 18 to 49, than anything.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
More than 100,000 people, 18 to 49, have died from opioids.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
From fentanyl in particular.
tim dillon
Fentanyl, laced cocaine, it's a huge problem.
joe rogan
That's a real epidemic and you hear a fucking peep about it on CNN. You don't hear a goddamn peep.
tim dillon
They don't care.
joe rogan
They also don't talk about the people that get arrested that work for them that are perverts.
tim dillon
There's a lot of that.
joe rogan
Have you seen that?
tim dillon
There's more of that than you would think.
joe rogan
Yes.
tim dillon
Because it's weird.
The CIA has that problem too.
joe rogan
Do they?
tim dillon
They have that problem too.
joe rogan
CIA has pedophiles working for them?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So is it like a cop who's a drug dealer?
You're around it and you say, I'm going to try it.
tim dillon
I don't know what it is.
But there's a major issue at the CIA and the NSA with some of their contractors and some of the people that work there doing horrible things and getting caught.
joe rogan
Where is this?
I haven't even seen this yet.
tim dillon
I mean, Jamie can pull it up, but this is legit.
joe rogan
He's working on it.
tim dillon
I mean, these are...
People that are working within highly sensitive intelligence matters, and you would think that these institutions would know what they're doing, and these people are on the dark web, and they're like, I mean, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Too much power.
People have too much power.
tim dillon
People have too much power.
joe rogan
I mean, this is what we're seeing over...
Look, the fact that people are...
Here it is.
Secret CIA files say staffers committed sex crimes involving children.
Holy shit.
Declassified CIA Inspector General reports show a pattern of abuse and a repeated decision by federal prosecutors not to hold agency personnel accountable.
tim dillon
Ha!
unidentified
Odd.
joe rogan
Wow.
tim dillon
That's odd.
joe rogan
You think they just, they're like, this is bad for PR. Let's just pretend it didn't happen.
tim dillon
Well, yeah, I mean this is also we know for a fact that these people for years and years and years have used This as a way to blackmail and entrap people as you know, this is reality You know it's unfortunate secretly amassed credible evidence that at least 10 of its employees and contractors committed sexual crimes involving children.
joe rogan
Holy shit Holy shit My god look at this good scroll down one employee at a sexual contact with a two-year-old and a six-year-old girl He was fired a second employee purchased three sexually explicit videos of young girls filmed by their mothers He resigned crazy third employee off.
tim dillon
I don't want to fucking it's it's disturbing Yeah, yeah, yeah Well, listen, we're at the end of an empire.
This is how it ends.
This doesn't turn around.
joe rogan
I'm going to show you how it ends.
I'm going to send this to Jamie so you see how it ends.
tim dillon
I think China will be okay.
joe rogan
China's going to do great.
tim dillon
I think China will be okay.
I don't worry about China like everyone else does.
jamie vernon
Did you know that they're already deliberating for the Maxwell trial?
I didn't know that it was almost over.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
tim dillon
Well, that was a trial.
The Ghislaine Maxwell show trial was absolutely a completely unserious attempt.
Look at this.
joe rogan
The judge in the Maxwell trial asked jurors to deliberate today.
They said, no, thank you.
Interesting.
tim dillon
Well, because it's the holidays.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, right.
tim dillon
I mean, you've got to enjoy Christmas without talking about this creep and his British girlfriend diddling children on an aisle.
Like, there's got to be some level of like, hey, we're trying to decorate our tree.
Can we take three days and not do this?
joe rogan
Put that back.
We could see what it said.
Look at this.
Frustration grows over heavily redacted Epstein pilots' flight logs.
Let me stop right there.
Because if they could show Bill Clinton...
Flied with them 26 fucking times.
Who are they redacting?
tim dillon
Well, I think people that are currently in positions of power.
You've got to realize that Clintons are done.
They're done.
They were very powerful, but they're done.
But there's a lot of prime ministers.
There's a lot of senators.
There's a lot of congressmen.
There's a lot of people that are still presidents, vice, who knows, that are still in power that they may be protecting.
joe rogan
My favorite is when they asked Bill Gates about it.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he's like, well, he's dead now.
tim dillon
Did you see that?
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That is the wildest answer ever to why did you have a relationship with a pervert.
tim dillon
Right, right.
He's dead.
He's gone.
All these creepy tech guys are nerds.
They make all this money, and then this guy shows up and goes, hey, I got all these chicks on an island.
They don't ask too many questions.
Oh, here we go.
joe rogan
Because this is the end of an empire.
And this is, Gad Saad said that, and he's definitely right.
He said, American's been a hell of a run, but it's over.
tim dillon
Yeah, no, it's not looking...
joe rogan
This is, a lady is singing, it says the East Room, the people in the background all have masks on.
She doesn't have masks on.
Why doesn't she have a mask on either?
Right.
These two old white ladies have no masks.
All the people of color and the diversity behind them are masked up.
unidentified
That's true.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Makes no sense.
Look, it's almost like they picked it on purpose.
You have some African Americans.
You have a smattering of Asians.
You have what looks like Latinas.
You don't have any white people except the two white people that have no masks on.
It is a rules for you and not for me video.
Look at this.
The only people without masks are white people.
This is like a secret message they're sending out.
Look at this.
unidentified
These old ladies should be nowhere near people.
joe rogan
Do they not know about the Omicron?
unidentified
Call out the holly, haven't I taught you well too?
tim dillon
Well, they're singing.
So the two without masks are singing.
joe rogan
Yeah, but everyone's singing.
tim dillon
But is this about the vaccine or not?
joe rogan
But they're all singing.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're all wearing nurses' outfits.
Those people are singing.
There's other voices.
So either they're lip syncing or they're singing along because they're moving their face and they're moving their hands and their jaws are moving.
Their masks are moving like they're singing.
So are they filtered?
Is that what the idea is?
They're being safe?
tim dillon
Where is the president?
joe rogan
He's dead.
tim dillon
Yeah.
I mean, like...
joe rogan
Did you see him give answers to a press conference the other day?
He took questions?
tim dillon
Because I shouldn't even be doing this, right?
joe rogan
No, it was beautiful.
He took questions yesterday, and they started asking him about tests.
And he just kept saying the same thing.
Nobody saw this coming.
It's like this thing, this Omicron.
And as it goes on for like five or six minutes, as it goes on, you're like, oh my god, he's gone.
tim dillon
Yeah, he's out.
joe rogan
He's worse than he was a month ago.
tim dillon
He's getting worse.
He's progressively declining, it seems.
Yeah.
And then Kamala Harris, they're trying to ice her out.
All the press coming out is like, she's...
joe rogan
Michelle Obama.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're gonna bring Harris.
Michelle Obama and Harris.
Harris comes back as the Vice President.
Michelle Obama's the President.
We get a double dose of diversity.
tim dillon
They'll win.
joe rogan
Let's go champ.
tim dillon
They'll win.
And then who's on the Republican side?
DeSantis?
joe rogan
Trump and DeSantis.
Together.
They have to make a super team.
It's the only way they win.
unidentified
Interesting.
joe rogan
That's the only way they win.
Super team.
tim dillon
Trump comes out as the President.
joe rogan
Yeah, if Michelle Obama...
I really believe if Michelle Obama runs, she might win.
unidentified
She wins.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think she wins.
tim dillon
She's good.
She's great.
She's intelligent.
joe rogan
She's articulate.
She's the wife of the best president that we have had in our lifetime in terms of a representative of intelligent, articulate people.
She could win.
I think the only thing that would stop is if she bought into some of these policies that are destroying businesses in America that make people scared.
If she somehow or another supported or showed any support for lockdowns and mandates and all this craziness that's going on, if she did...
tim dillon
God willing, we're on the other end of that.
And I think that the problems now with defunding the cops and stuff, they seem to be reversing all of those policies in these cities where homicide rates have skyrocketed.
joe rogan
Well, they're going to have to.
I mean, there's no other solution.
tim dillon
People in LA are getting gun in the face when they're eating dinner.
They're being attacked.
You know, it's like...
Now, some of it's overstated to a degree because, like, you know, obviously the media is just...
It's the media, right?
So, I mean, it's like...
They're going to run with it and get people excited about something, but there's a real uptick in crime in wealthy areas, and those people are unhappy.
That woman who just got killed in her Beverly Hills home, tragically.
joe rogan
That's the CEO of Netflix's mother-in-law.
tim dillon
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, they gunned her down in her Beverly Hills house.
tim dillon
Yeah, so those types of things are, I think, making a lot of people go, hey, this wasn't the best idea.
joe rogan
Not enough people, though.
I mean, people should be in the fucking streets protesting, like the district attorney.
See the district attorney called cops pigs, essentially?
The LA district attorney said, when you roll around with pigs, you get dirty?
That was the way he described what's going on with crime in Los Angeles?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what?
And he said, this is just a metaphor about being dirty.
It has nothing to do with cops.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Yeah, that was probably not the greatest choice.
joe rogan
See if you can find when he said that.
You got it right here?
Play it.
Here.
Look at this.
LA District Attorney George Gascon, who's like the biggest fucking communist in all of law, was asked to respond to LA Sheriff Alex How do you say that?
tim dillon
Villanueva.
He's a great sheriff.
He's actually really good.
joe rogan
My dad used to say, when you wrestle with a pig, you both get muddy and the pig likes it.
Says he didn't use the word to demean law enforcement.
Just play it.
unidentified
Look, I'm going to...
My dad used to say that when you wrestle with a pig, you both get muddy and the pig likes it.
Okay?
And that's not big in terms of using the term as to law enforcement, it's to people that often act in ways that I believe that are not consistent with the Yeah, I mean, he's mentally ill.
tim dillon
I mean, to say that is crazy.
unidentified
It's a psychopath.
tim dillon
No, it's a psychotic statement.
joe rogan
And he's saying this about the L.A. Sheriff.
tim dillon
No, it's crazy.
joe rogan
When you wrestle with a pig, you both get money and the pig likes it.
Imagine that this guy is still in office.
tim dillon
Yeah, no, I mean, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
This guy has let so many fucking people out.
tim dillon
Gavin Newsom's still in office, this effete wine merchant.
joe rogan
He's worse, though.
tim dillon
He's worse.
No, he's bad.
joe rogan
He's the worst, because he's letting people off that pull guns on people, pull knives on people.
tim dillon
Well, the guy who did the Waukesha massacre had stabbed I thought he tried to run her over.
Oh, he tried to run her over with a car.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah, he tried to run her over with a car.
joe rogan
And he was out on $1,000 bail.
tim dillon
$1,000 bail.
joe rogan
And then he killed 10 people.
tim dillon
Then he mowed, which the media talked about it like it was a car.
Yeah, caused by an SUV. But he's out on $1,000 bail, ran over the mother of his children, girlfriend, whatever, and then came out and killed somebody.
So these policies aren't Working.
joe rogan
No.
Not even remotely.
tim dillon
No.
joe rogan
Not even remotely.
tim dillon
It's a problem.
joe rogan
And the thing is, they get funded.
And this was explained to me by the governor.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was explaining to me how these people get funded, and then they'll fund someone who's even more progressive to challenge that person.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
And it's almost like someone's trying to destroy these cities.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
It's like San Francisco...
San Francisco just made an about face.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The mayor of San Francisco just called for an emergency...
tim dillon
San Francisco's looking a little better.
I was just there.
It's starting to look a little better.
joe rogan
Well, she called for a state of emergency that's going to allow them to set up treatment centers, to clean up the streets.
And with a state of emergency, she could just go in and start doing things.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And so she's decided that she's going to put an end to things, and I hope it makes sense.
tim dillon
Austin has issues, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
But they did make a lot of progress with...
Some of the homeless encampments and things like that.
joe rogan
They did with that, but the fucking murder rate's up 178% from last year.
They defund the police.
This is what happens.
You can't defund the police.
tim dillon
You can't get rid of police.
unidentified
No.
tim dillon
It's not a good idea.
joe rogan
It's not smart.
tim dillon
You should have them.
They should be accountable.
They should be retrained.
There should be many things instituted to...
They should maybe face penalties in civilian courts when they do something.
It shouldn't be an internal slap on the wrist.
That's how you get the CIA letting the pedophiles off.
So they should be subject to the same laws that they enforce.
That being said, you get rid of them, you already have in LA people hiring private security.
So really wealthy areas are now hiring their own private security.
So you, that's the, you know, this is what happens when you get rid of Public...
And by the way, the private security is not going to be better than cops.
They're unaccountable.
Would you ever want...
You may be against a war, but there's no argument that mercenaries, like the Blackwater, whatever they call it now, Z, like Eric Prince's company, there's no argument that they're going to be better than...
Trained soldiers because they're unaccountable.
joe rogan
Well, most of them are trained soldiers that then move into the private sector.
tim dillon
Yeah, but then they can do whatever they want.
joe rogan
That's the whole purpose.
tim dillon
It's the whole purpose, right?
So if you get rid of a public, you're going to have an order somehow.
If you get rid of this public police force, you're just going to have private police forces that are made up of maybe ex-military, ex-intel people, and they're not going to be accountable to anybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, none of this is a good idea.
And the idea that you should get rid of the cops, like, okay, you'd have to go down the line.
Is there a problem with any crime?
So what do you want to do about that?
No cops at all?
tim dillon
Yeah.
Well, the argument is if we give money to...
You know, causes, social justice causes, right?
Mental health care, education, you know, early intervention.
All those things are valuable and valid, but they're not replacing, if a guy's trying to kill someone in a house, who are you going to call?
joe rogan
What's worse than that?
Because it actually ramps up crime because the criminals find out that there's no cops out there.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
And the cops are toothless.
Yeah, they're emboldened.
That's why you get all these smash and grabs.
Do you see how they put razor wire around the Santa Monica promedad?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
They put razor wire bales like it's a fucking high security prison to keep people from smash and grabbing because it's been that many.
tim dillon
They have it around the Westfield Mall too in Century City.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
The decay of Los Angeles, right before ours, over two years, has been fucking staggering.
tim dillon
Well, it's Minnesota, it's Los Angeles, it's San Francisco, it's New York has problems, it's Chicago, it's Baltimore.
If you look at the homicide rates in all these cities, they're all going up.
joe rogan
Yeah, way up.
tim dillon
They're all going up.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they blame COVID. They all have in common that they defunded the police departments.
They all have that in common.
tim dillon
Well, also, I think they're...
There's also a problem with the idea that you can have a civilization and a society where people are, you know, we all want a respectable relationship with law enforcement.
Like, we all want people to be treated well.
But you can't have a society where You have zero order because then order is going to be imposed.
You know, there's businesses that are like, you know, gangs will protect businesses, right?
Mafia will protect businesses.
Like, there's going to be some order in society.
There's going to be an organizing principle.
And if the state doesn't have a monopoly on violence, you have Kyle Rittenhouse.
So you have people that are going to take it into their own hands.
You have vigilantism.
It's inevitable.
So that's the other problem is you go, okay, you can't have a society where you go, violence is okay for the things we agree with, which is the craziest thing I've ever seen.
And over the last couple of years, people go, oh, well, if you're on the right side of this political issue, you can throw that brick through a window.
joe rogan
Punch a Nazi.
tim dillon
Punch a Nazi.
You get to decide who's a Nazi.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
You get to decide whose property is to be respected and whose isn't.
So if you get rid of that idea that we should have, you know, that you can't use violence, if you get rid of that idea, you're opening the gates of hell.
joe rogan
You are.
And the question is, is this complete total incompetence on the part of the lawmakers and of the politicians and of the people that are orchestrating this?
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
Or is there some manipulation behind the scenes that's designed to make the country fall apart so that people fall in line and that they comply easier because they're scared and because it's chaos?
tim dillon
Well, it's probably both.
joe rogan
I don't know.
tim dillon
Maybe.
joe rogan
It's probably both.
tim dillon
Probably both.
Because people like China, these foreign entities do want America to collapse, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
tim dillon
Why wouldn't you?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
And we also, at this point, the people that are running for things at this point in our decline are crazy.
So the people that want to be in Congress now are insane.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Look at all the jobs you could get.
And you would become a congressman?
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
That's why a lot of these lunatics are like, you know, these are the showmen, the crazy people, the guys like, let's all get AR-15s and sit in the living room.
Yeah.
Two days after a school shooting.
I mean, it's like, I had a little tat.
joe rogan
Is that a congressman that did that?
tim dillon
Yeah, Thomas Massey, I think, did it.
joe rogan
Where's he from?
tim dillon
He did like my tweet because I said he couldn't afford a whole couch.
They're sitting on a very tiny couch.
joe rogan
He didn't like it?
tim dillon
No, he liked it because I said, like, you spend all your money on guns, you can't afford a whole couch.
They're sitting on this weird love scene.
joe rogan
He hit the like button?
He did that?
tim dillon
Yeah, he hit the like button because they're crazy.
They don't care anymore.
They're all completely insane.
Look at this.
So they're on this little love seat because they can't afford a couch because they've spent all their money on artillery.
And I said that, and he liked it.
He liked my tweet.
joe rogan
He's got solid trigger discipline, though.
Everybody does.
Not one person has their finger on the trigger.
tim dillon
Yeah, but this is two days after the school shooting.
joe rogan
Yeah, not good.
tim dillon
Where a 15-year-old heroic kid, this kid Tate Meyer, died trying to save.
You know, you're putting up that photo like, you know what it is.
But this is the caliber of human being we have now in Congress.
Everybody from Ilhan Omar to Marjorie Taylor Greene, all of them are, they act more like comedians.
They want attention.
They want to get a book deal.
None of them seem interested in solving any of the problems.
None of them.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good point.
tim dillon
None of them.
No, they all want, because by the way, the art of politics is some level of compromise.
All of these people just have their brand, and they get out, you know, Ilhan Omar, Cori Bush, they're just like, fuck Whitey, fine.
On the other side, they're like, let's get the guns, and so you just, they all have their brands, and nobody has any interest in reaching across.
joe rogan
You think Cori Bush has ever said fuck Whitey, really?
tim dillon
Everything's white supremacy.
Everything's white supremacy.
Every single thing that ever happens that's not good in this country has to do with white supremacy.
If she's in traffic, it's white supremacy.
It's a completely unserious attempt to build any coalition.
How do you build a coalition?
By telling people every day, you're white, you have privilege, you didn't work hard for anything you earned, you're the problem, and we have to remake society, and you have to apologize every single day.
That turns them and makes them go, you know what?
I'm going to go with the guy sitting with the gun.
Thanks.
I'll go with the gun on the couch.
If these people were serious about even attaining power, but they're not, I think they don't want to get anything done.
They don't really care.
They just want to be as loud and as, you know, they want to just be as much of the picture as they can be.
They want to dominate.
joe rogan
They are like comedians in that.
One thing you'll see with certain comedians is they start to get a little bit of attention doing a certain thing.
And then they do it.
And then they really lean into it.
They become like hardcore right wing or hardcore left wing.
tim dillon
Yeah.
I mean, you have Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz and that whole thing, which is the QAnon section of Congress.
joe rogan
Is Matt Gaetz QAnon as well?
tim dillon
Probably.
joe rogan
Marjorie Taylor Greene is, right?
tim dillon
She's hardcore.
She was like, they make all these allusions to Trump coming back.
I mean, they know what they're doing, right?
They know exactly what they're doing.
And then the other side, you have the squad, and then they know what they're doing.
And then in the vast center is just criminals who are insider trading and selling stock the minute they find out there's a pandemic.
joe rogan
Well, Nancy Pelosi, when they asked her about that, when we showed the video, they asked her about insider trade, should they stop congresspeople or members of doing any kind of trading or trading in individual stocks?
She's like, no to that.
tim dillon
Yeah.
They're Americans.
joe rogan
It's an open market.
tim dillon
Yeah, it's an open market.
It's a free market.
joe rogan
We should be able to participate.
She's worth $200 million.
tim dillon
She's a criminal.
Chuck Schumer, all these people, yeah.
Ted Cruz, all these guys are not to be taken seriously.
They're just not to be taken seriously.
joe rogan
They're what we have.
tim dillon
They're what we have.
joe rogan
No one wants that job.
tim dillon
Except crazy people.
joe rogan
Well, you know, there's a few that aren't crazy.
There's a few interesting people that just want to be leaders.
But there's a lot of that needing attention thing, like you were saying.
It's totally true.
Yeah.
tim dillon
What's it?
Kristen Sinema in Arizona, who's the bisexual yoga chick with the green hair, and she's just like...
You know, listen, I don't know anything about the Build Back Better Act or whatever.
I don't know too much about it.
joe rogan
I don't think anybody knows about it.
tim dillon
Right.
But I don't feel like her opposition to it is like principled opposition.
She wants attention.
She goes, Fox News will hire me in two years and they'll give me five million a year.
Instead of sitting in Congress for a quarter million.
joe rogan
I'll go get five.
Do you think that's what she's doing?
tim dillon
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Really?
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
So she's leaning into that direction?
Yeah.
Because she used to be way more progressive, right?
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
And then she's starting to accept money and starts to do things.
Yeah, she goes, fuck it.
tim dillon
Fuck it.
Megyn Kelly's out, I'm in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Kristen Sinema's in.
I'll get a nice big house in that Olive Garden of, you know, she lives in California.
It'll look like an Olive Garden.
All those houses do in Arizona.
And I'll sit there in my pool, and I'll broadcast, and I'll scream and yell, and I'll get all this money.
joe rogan
They do look like Olive Garden.
They all do.
tim dillon
Yeah, I mean, it's...
joe rogan
Why is that?
tim dillon
I don't...
This is, you know, because the people that live in them like eating there, probably.
You know?
But this woman is not a serious, this isn't like a serious public servant.
I mean, it's laughable.
joe rogan
Do you think they start off wanting to be a serious public servant and once they get in there they just realize it's horseshit?
tim dillon
It's a scam.
joe rogan
From the jump.
tim dillon
From the jump.
She goes, I want to be Jennifer Aniston, but I can't be.
What are the avenues in society that are available to me?
She goes, I don't want to work at the local office at GEICO. These people are not qualified to do anything.
It wasn't the choice between her own tech company, Goldman Sachs.
Do you know what she used to do, Kristen Sinema, before she was a...
Didn't she teach yoga?
She's like an idiot that babbles about crystals and she goes, you know what?
I can become a congresswoman, which anyone can.
I think I can.
jamie vernon
Well, it says she became an adjunct professor teaching master's level policy and grant writing at Arizona State.
tim dillon
No one cares.
jamie vernon
School of Social Work.
tim dillon
Yeah, great.
jamie vernon
She's a teacher.
tim dillon
She's a teacher.
jamie vernon
Fine.
And a junk business law professor.
tim dillon
And she got bored with that.
She was bored with that.
So she goes, you know what I'll do?
Let me go to Congress and let me kick up some dust.
And now that she's in Congress, she's like, I want out.
joe rogan
What did they follow her into the bathroom about?
tim dillon
Oh, I don't know.
They're just yelling at her about the thing, that she won't pass the bill.
joe rogan
Was that the Build Back Better bill?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
But here's the thing about that bill.
Who's read it?
Isn't it thousands of pages long?
tim dillon
Oh, for sure.
But every piece of legislation, who's read any piece of legislation?
I've never read anything.
I didn't read the Patriot Act when they said there's 19 new agencies and there's 15 color-coded levels of threat.
Nobody reads anything.
joe rogan
You remember that when they were like, it's code orange?
tim dillon
Yeah, it's orange.
I don't know what Build Back Better is.
I think the controversial stuff is the energy stuff.
They're going to tax people.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right, for energy expenditure.
tim dillon
Consumption taxes and stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, so if you drive a lot, you have to pay a tax on the amount of miles that you drive, which the problem with that is that's going to give the government access to your car because they're going to have to track that.
So you're going to have to write down your miles.
tim dillon
It hurts.
When they did this in New York City, they put congestion taxes on the Ubers.
They then raised their prices.
People that were relying on that to get to work, now because the subway was not efficient, so you could go, I could trust the subway and then be late at that point, or you could go, I could get in this Uber pool or whatever.
Unfortunately, that affected a lot of people in New York.
It was more expensive to take an Uber to work.
So you had to go back to the bus and subway and hope that it was working.
So that's, I think, in the Build Back Better Act, the problem is like, how much can regular people shoulder the burden of climate change?
That's the debate, right?
Because if you do nothing...
joe rogan
The problem with any sort of problem, whether it's climate change or anything, is then these industries pop up and offer themselves as a solution.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
And then they become like some sort of a...
They become self-sustaining sort of...
They become like a thing, like a unit.
Like if you have climate change...
And then something comes along and says, like, we can solve climate change.
And then they become a consortium.
They become some sort of a conglomeration or a corporation.
Now you have this thing that it's got control of it and it's profiting off of climate change, just like we have with medical problems.
tim dillon
We also know that the sacrifices that people are asked to make are never evenly distributed in society.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
So if you come to people and say, hey, we'd like you to drive less.
We'd like you to use less energy.
The same way with Gavin Newsom sitting there maskless at a dinner at the French Laundry, you go, oh, those rules are not the rules that I have to play by.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
So I think people are inherently skeptical of these pushes to make people sacrifice because they go, wait a minute, but you guys still get private jets.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
And you guys still get these massive conferences.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
And you guys still...
I think everybody...
Well, not everybody, but the vast majority of sane people want a better environment.
unidentified
Yes.
tim dillon
They want to safeguard an environment.
But you got to figure out a way to do it that doesn't bankrupt people.
Because people that don't have food don't have the luxury of worrying about the environment.
Because they go, I can't provide for my family.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it does become an industry, and the climate change fighting industry will be an issue, because then you're going to have a bunch of people working for them, you're going to have a bunch of people that have a vested interest in making, then you're going to have other individual industries that connect themselves to that, that start to fund it and become a part of it, whether it's electric cars or whatever it is, and then you have laws that are passed that penalize their opponents, or penalize their competitors.
tim dillon
There doesn't seem to be an easy solution because everything becomes an industry.
joe rogan
Everything becomes an industry.
Well, that's the thing about profit and politics and profit and the things that we're dealing with in this country in terms of regulations.
When you find out that regulations are passed and that the people who pass the regulations have relationships with businesses that are going to benefit from these regulations, you've got fuckery.
And when you have unchecked fuckery, that's called fraud.
That's a big part of American politics.
Getting money out of politics is one of the most important things that anyone could ever do, and no one wants to do it.
If you could stop special interest groups, stop corporations, stop any people like that, any groups like that, from contributing to political campaigns, then people would make decisions based on different things.
They would have to get donations from the people, from the individual people.
tim dillon
Well, Bernie Sanders did that, and they locked him out.
joe rogan
They did lock him out.
tim dillon
So they locked him out.
He literally did that.
He raised money, grassroots, and then they literally plotted at the DNC as a way to keep him out.
joe rogan
Yeah, twice.
tim dillon
Twice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
They sandbagged him twice.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it's wild that he never stands up and yells about that.
tim dillon
Well, I think he's not who people think he is.
Like, I don't think...
He's a good, solid dude, for sure.
He's not a revolutionary guy.
I don't believe he's...
If you look at the things like, you know, he accepted a bunch of military-industrial complex jobs in his own state.
He, you know, was pretty party-line on a lot of things.
And he departed from the orthodoxy on a few major things, Iraq War and stuff, and we all know them.
I think he's a principled guy, but I also don't...
I don't think he...
Because if he was a revolutionary guy, he goes, no, fuck it, vote for Trump.
He literally says, no, one of the party is rotten, and it needs to be completely overhauled, so either don't vote or whatever.
But he threw his support behind Hillary and then Biden, quite obviously after he had been kind of sandbagged, and they had arranged this so that he was going to lose.
He had the momentum, certainly the second time, for sure.
For sure.
I just don't think he's a revolutionary guy.
I think he's a politician.
He's been there 20, 30 years.
joe rogan
They just thought that he couldn't beat Trump?
Or do you think that they thought that he was going to be a problem if he got into office?
Because he would sandbag a lot of...
tim dillon
Yeah, all of it.
unidentified
All of it.
tim dillon
I mean, I think he's a guy...
There's no photos of him on Epstein's Island.
Like, he's not a guy that's played ball.
He's not a play ball guy.
He's a guy that...
I think he was at the end of his life.
He was old.
So they can't hold that over his head, right?
It's not like he's a young guy with a family dynasty that is trying to preserve power for generations.
He's an old guy that believes in the same things he's believed his entire life.
That guy could be very dangerous in the presidency.
joe rogan
Do you think that there's another Epstein Island out there right now?
tim dillon
Twelve.
Better.
Newer.
Yeah.
No, the kids go down a slide into a furnace.
No, no, no.
I mean, are you nuts?
Of course there's a better island.
Oh, no.
Marriott Bonvoy, whatever company that is now, they own every hotel in America.
The Marriott Bonvoy, you know, they're dumb.
Marriott owns everything.
Go to any hotel now.
It's just owned by Marriott.
joe rogan
Really?
tim dillon
They've taken over.
They're building, you know, new islands every day for billionaire pedophiles.
Absolutely.
I think it says it on their website.
They're quite proud of it.
joe rogan
But these freaks don't stop being freaks.
So do they go cold turkey?
tim dillon
Well, here's the deal.
Blackmail now is online.
They don't have to do the honeypots anymore.
They can blackmail people online.
They can just download porn on you.
You can do all kinds of stuff.
joe rogan
They can do things to your computer like put porn on your computer.
tim dillon
And they know what you're into now because they can just hack everything.
That being said, yeah, freaks are not going to stop being freaks and elicit streams of money, which the whole Epstein story was about that.
People forget about that.
It's also about illicit streams of capital and where they go.
Epstein was really good at hiding money for guys like Les Wexner, who we never speak about, and all these other billionaires.
He was really good at that.
That was what he was good at.
And his money could come from drug running, money that is being sheltered from taxes, whatever.
joe rogan
Was he good at that, though?
Oh, yeah.
tim dillon
He was pretty good at it.
joe rogan
Because Weinstein says that he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.
And when it comes to capital and when it comes to finances, Weinstein said he was a fraud.
He said when he met him, he was very clear right away this guy didn't know anything.
tim dillon
I will withhold comment because I don't want anyone to have a breakdown.
joe rogan
You mean Weinstein?
tim dillon
Yeah, I don't think Epstein was...
Listen, Epstein was good enough to get into the circles that he got into.
And I'm sure he knew a little bit about what was going on.
Because I love Eric, but people say the same thing about Eric in his field, right?
joe rogan
I don't think they say it about his field.
They say it about his theory of everything.
tim dillon
Whatever.
People say it.
So anyone can say anything about anyone.
So what I'm here to defend is Jeffrey Epstein's good name.
I'm not going to let the Weinsteins trample on Jeffrey Epstein.
unidentified
Okay.
tim dillon
Supposedly, Eric was going to get called to testify in his trial, but that's not true.
That was a rumor on Twitter.
joe rogan
Was that?
tim dillon
Yeah, but I think it was just fake.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, if he knew something, that could help.
But the trial, the Ghislaine Maxwell trial, is weird because it's a federal trial, so you don't get the transcripts, you don't get to see it, you get sketchies, the weird drawings.
tim dillon
They have no interest in uncovering what was happening outside of this very small...
Look, right?
Like this very tightly conceived picture of Jeffrey and Ghislaine, but...
joe rogan
They've controlled it very well.
tim dillon
They've controlled it very well, and they're also like, well, why?
You know, they're not really looking at it from 30,000 feet and going, okay, why was this happening with impunity forever?
And how did they have all of these contacts?
And everyone knows it was an intel operation.
joe rogan
Every person knows.
jamie vernon
What's that?
It's autoplayed video, I didn't mean for that.
tim dillon
Everyone knows that, and the job of the media is to steer it away from that.
joe rogan
Closing arguments.
Let's hear what she has to say.
But it's CNN, so they're probably lying.
jamie vernon
You gotta get information from all sources.
unidentified
First up is the prosecution.
They will try to tie together the testimony of the 24 witnesses that they called at the trial.
Four of them are accusers, women who say that they were sexually assaulted by Epstein when they were giving him massages.
These women testified that Ghislaine Maxwell helped recruit them, helped arrange their travel and their massage appointments, and at times participated in the alleged sexual assault.
Then Maxwell's attorneys will have a turn to address the jury.
They say that she has been scapegoated, that the only reason why she is on trial is because Jeffrey Epstein isn't.
He died by suicide while awaiting trial.
They're also expected to attack the credibility of these accusers, saying that they were motivated by money and that their memory of these events that took place more than 20 years ago, years ago is faulty.
Maxwell faces six charges and as much as 70 years in prison if convicted of all counts.
tim dillon
Hmm.
I mean, she's gonna be sacrificed or she's gonna get out, but they'll never let her out.
I don't think she's getting out.
They're never going to talk about the role that this played in how the world is run, which people don't want to talk about, right?
The idea that you have all of these powerful people and all of these different arenas, tech, government, and finance.
All of these people are quite guilty or seemingly very guilty of these nefarious activities.
They were being blackmailed.
They were being filmed.
And well, does that have an impact on how the world is run?
And nobody wants to have that conversation, but it very clearly does.
Who are the people that hold those videotapes?
And what do they want out of the people that were videotaped?
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
That's a real question.
joe rogan
Are there really video types?
Is that real?
tim dillon
There have to be.
joe rogan
You think so?
tim dillon
Well, there's video equipment.
What the hell's the point?
joe rogan
Maybe they want to make a movie.
tim dillon
Yeah, he's a camera collector.
No, I believe this entire thing, and it's not that I believe, it's well-researched.
This is very much the family business for the Maxwell family.
They're an intelligence family.
Dad was a super spy for the Mossad.
He had a media empire.
He was a conglomerate in the UK. Her sisters are very deep in tech.
And, you know, she ran the pedo ring.
This was an Intel family.
joe rogan
It's wild.
tim dillon
That was a family business.
Entrenched, get into governments, get in with powerful people.
They call them access agents.
You're an access, you provide me access to Bill Clinton.
Well, Clinton likes women.
And on the younger side, okay, we can get access to him.
So, by doing what they're doing and getting all this information, the problem is it destroys the idea that we're living in this society where people have a debate.
Like, the reason they can't get the bill back at her act passed is The reason they can't get that act passed is because Jeffrey is dead.
Like, if he could have blackmailed Joe Manchin, the act is passed.
So truly...
This is the type of governing...
joe rogan
Do you think that's how it was used?
tim dillon
Absolutely.
joe rogan
So you think it was used by people to get whatever they were trying to get passed through?
tim dillon
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And whatever regulations dropped or...
tim dillon
I think if you're a billionaire and you have a corporation and you have interests, do you want some senator or congressman from a small, tiny state getting in the way of your ability to make money?
No.
So what do you do?
You've got to leverage.
You've got to use leverage to get them to do what you want them to do.
joe rogan
But then, if that's the case, what about the scientists?
tim dillon
Well, he was a freak.
That's the other thing.
Epstein...
Well, it was very...
A lot of the scientists were...
Very brilliant top-of-their-field guys.
He was curious about starting a new human race.
I mean, yeah, Epstein wanted to start a new race.
I mean, it was crazy.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
No, this is well-documented.
tim dillon
He wanted to seed the planet with his offspring.
unidentified
What?
tim dillon
He was nuts.
joe rogan
Did he have children?
tim dillon
He was an eccentric.
He did not have children.
joe rogan
So he was like...
Just one of those guys that talks about working out but never does?
tim dillon
That's right.
But guys like Bill Gates and these guys, they're also, obviously everything now is tech.
Everything is tech.
Every company to some degree is a tech company.
So Epstein cozying up with tech people, you see when the blackmail operation goes from nuts and bolts, honeypot to, oh, the future of this will very much be tech.
And that's why you see him cozying up with all of those tech people.
It's not an accident.
joe rogan
Look at this.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jeffrey Epstein hoped to seed human race with his DNA. But how do you know this isn't just one of those stories that they write about him after he's dead or while he's arrested because they want to smear him?
jamie vernon
He's still alive at this point, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, or while he's arrested, like I said.
tim dillon
I mean, I think it's a conceivable thing that he'd want to do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
He's an eccentric guy around very interesting, intelligent people, and I'm sure this comes up.
joe rogan
I just think the scientist aspect is very strange, because there was a lot of them.
There was a lot of top-flight scientists.
And I'm wondering, If he tried to compromise them, so that he could get them to distort data.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
Or get them to, like, if you had a government agency, there was an intelligence agency, and they wanted to get something passed, and you had access to all these scientists, you could compromise the scientists, and then say, look, you don't have to include that part.
How about you stand up for this and come up with a reason why this is a good idea?
tim dillon
100%, I think it always worked like that.
I think by...
And by the way, after his conviction for whatever he got convicted for and he served a time in Club Fed down there, even a dinner with somebody was compromising them because you're now with this guy.
You didn't want that to be out in the open.
So I think his job was to basically...
Get as much information as he could and get as much leverage as he could.
Now, for who?
That's the question.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is the question.
It's just wild how many people hung out with him after he had got arrested and then prosecuted and then convicted of being a pedophile.
tim dillon
Well, you made that good point about Roman Polanski.
You know, a lot of people went out and defended Roman Polanski and said, hey, you know, he's a great director.
And I'm sure they were like, Jeffrey, you got a massage from a girl.
Well, you know, because you can hear it secondhand.
Rich people, like secondhand, will be like, yeah, you got a massage from a girl?
Turns out she was underage.
That's probably what was said, right?
I mean...
And also they know, but nobody in that world wants to get too down the rabbit hole because they all know that people die.
That's the other thing.
People disappear.
And so when you're around these weird people that have all these intelligence connections that are all over the world and their friends are presidents and kings and queens and prime ministers, if you get an invitation, a lot of times you take it.
joe rogan
Well, the way we do it here is so much less dangerous to folks like that than the way they do it in China.
tim dillon
Right.
Which is why China will win.
joe rogan
China is...
They're ruthless.
They're so ruthless that they got Amazon...
unidentified
Shout out to China, by the way.
joe rogan
Shout out to China.
tim dillon
Shout out to China.
joe rogan
They got Amazon to take down everything except five-star reviews of Xi Jinping's new book.
Have you seen that?
tim dillon
No, but that's amazing.
joe rogan
Pull that out.
tim dillon
But I bet it's a good book.
joe rogan
That is how you say it, right?
Xi Jinping?
tim dillon
Yes.
And fuck the people that are slandering that, because I bet it is a good book.
joe rogan
Do you think it's a five-star book or a four-and-a-half-star book?
tim dillon
I bet it's a five-star book.
And if China wants to compete with Patreon, they can DM me.
I'll be the first show on China's new...
Streaming service.
joe rogan
You just can't criticize China ever.
tim dillon
Who would want to criticize China?
joe rogan
John Cena.
tim dillon
I love it.
I had a friend there that moved there to teach English and it's great.
joe rogan
Really?
tim dillon
Sometimes there's homeless people and then sometimes there's not because then they're in the river.
joe rogan
Amazon partnered with China Propaganda Arm.
Yeah, but about the book.
Is this about the book?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I mean, the headline on another website linked to this.
I mean, they took the headline and made it different.
joe rogan
Okay, so Amazon reportedly took down reviews of Chinese presidents' book after demands.
Amazon.com currently offers G's book with positive reviews from Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and HuffPost.
Whoa.
tim dillon
What's interesting about the way they do it over there is if a billionaire steps out of line, they either lock them, they need to just get them.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
They go get him.
joe rogan
They go get him.
And either they kill him.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or they throw him in some prison somewhere and you never hear from him again.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
And they just take turns fucking him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or they make him eat his children and stay alive.
tim dillon
And Saudi Arabia did that where they locked everyone up in the Ritz-Carlton.
Like that seems to be the only way to get these people in line.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they do it.
They do it in China in a very ruthless way.
And they almost did it with Jack Ma, right?
They made him disappear for a few months.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then he came back.
tim dillon
Well, they have one ruling family.
And they're like, we are the law.
And even though you have a lot of money, you can't displease us.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's pretty wild.
tim dillon
It is pretty wild.
But when you run a country like that, you go, how do you beat them?
How do you beat a country that runs like a corporation with one ruling party?
joe rogan
Not just a corporation, but a corporation that has access to all the information that gets distributed.
They've literally locked up the internet.
They don't have the regular internet over there.
And they have a billion people.
tim dillon
And they have a billion people.
It's going to be tough to beat them.
Do we jump ship now?
Will there be rewards for us?
Jumping ship is the question.
joe rogan
I think we're going to become them.
tim dillon
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
I think that's going to be the argument for competing with China.
tim dillon
Because we have to become them.
joe rogan
The social credit score system, that kind of shit.
tim dillon
The journalist Whitney Webb I've had on my show said that there was a real push years ago saying that if we want to keep our supremacy in the fields of AI and automation and things like that, we have to develop these systems and implement them before China does.
And they are all, you know, Chinese type of social credit score systems and surveillance systems and things like that.
So that's a very...
Probable outcome is that in order to we got to come up with this technology and export it to the rest of the world before China does.
joe rogan
Did you see the thing that Sager did about the company in China where they were working they sold 51% of the company to China?
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
They work in the AR sector and they just stole all of their intellectual property changed the name of the company and said fuck you.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now it's Chinese and it's amazing.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Did you see that Obama documentary on Netflix about the Chinese buys the American company?
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
And then the Chinese people come over here and they're like, you're so fat!
Because everyone's like fat and slow.
And China's like, you gotta lose weight and start working hard.
joe rogan
What is this?
tim dillon
It's called American Factory, right, Jamie?
jamie vernon
What?
tim dillon
It's called American Factory.
The Obamas produced it.
It's about a Chinese company that buys an American company and they come over here to America.
joe rogan
Is it fiction?
tim dillon
No, it is real.
It's a documentary.
joe rogan
About what company?
tim dillon
I forget.
It's a Chinese company that they come over here and they start...
It's kind of crazy.
Here, watch this.
American Factory.
joe rogan
Yeah, give me some...
unidentified
...a project that is going to help grow this community, give people jobs, and give a future to your kids and my kids...
joe rogan
Wow, they changed the name of the streets to Chinese names.
unidentified
Where you sit today used to be a General Motors plant, and now there are over 1,000 employees working here.
tim dillon
Is this a union shop?
joe rogan
It is our desire to not be.
unidentified
What's our slogan?
joe rogan
To stand still is to move back.
jamie vernon
back.
unidentified
We hope someday to get this good.
One of the most fascinating American documentaries released this decade.
There have been 11 complaints filed.
Some workers claim unsafe working conditions and unfair treatment.
Doing the same thing over and over again that wears on your body and your soul.
joe rogan
It says we're under enormous pressure here.
unidentified
They told me that they had to be here two years away from their family, no extra pay.
I've ate at their house.
jamie vernon
They've ate at my home.
unidentified
We've just bonded.
joe rogan
I really admire Americans.
They can work two jobs.
I thought they didn't have to make any sacrifices.
So this is...
What company is this that this is documenting?
It seems like it's an auto company, right?
tim dillon
When a Chinese billionaire...
Go down, Jimmy.
It says, when a Chinese billionaire reopens a factory and hires 2,000 blue-collar Americans, early days of hope and optimism give way to setbacks as high-tech China clashes with working-class America.
So what's weird is that we have American billionaires, not that you have a Chinese billionaire coming in and reopening a factory in America and hiring Americans.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I thought it was in Ohio.
tim dillon
Yeah!
jamie vernon
I've heard of this plant.
tim dillon
So, I mean, good luck, everybody.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Oh, it is Ohio.
tim dillon
Oh, it's so hot enough already, Jamie.
We get it.
It's the most important state in America.
joe rogan
He gets very excited when you talk about Ohio.
tim dillon
All he cares about is Ohio.
It's a dump.
joe rogan
He doesn't want to move back there.
tim dillon
I'm kidding.
I do like it.
joe rogan
Notice he doesn't want to move there?
tim dillon
No, I mean, Ohio is...
I mean, come on.
I like it.
Great audience is out there.
jamie vernon
Great pizza.
joe rogan
He keeps saying that they have the best pizza.
He's mentally ill.
tim dillon
That's what I'm saying.
They have good ice cream.
Grater's ice cream, black raspberry is good.
joe rogan
New York has the best pizza.
tim dillon
New York.
joe rogan
Are we in agreement?
tim dillon
New York is the best pizza.
And Connecticut's very good, too.
New York and Connecticut.
joe rogan
Do you think Ohio can fuck with New York when it comes to pizza?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not good.
You should go to a doctor.
tim dillon
I will say the one thing about Austin.
The barbecue here is you can't get better barbecue in America.
unidentified
It's not possible.
tim dillon
I've been to Kansas City and I've been to all these places.
joe rogan
It's not possible.
tim dillon
It's the one thing in terms of food that there's no better barbecue than Austin barbecue.
joe rogan
No better.
tim dillon
It's really amazing.
joe rogan
Terry Black's, Franklin, how do you get better?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
La Barbecue, amazing.
tim dillon
Very good.
They're all good.
joe rogan
You just get different.
You don't get better.
tim dillon
It's true.
It's very good.
I will say that I went to Kansas City, I went to all these places, and I went, not impressed.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, they have good barbecue in other places, but I think this is the best.
tim dillon
This is the best.
joe rogan
The food here is fucking insane.
tim dillon
There is some good food here.
unidentified
Sure, for sure.
joe rogan
There's a lot of good food here.
They have absolutely the best sushi place on earth here.
tim dillon
Have you been to Sushi Bar ATX? No, because you mentioned it, and now it's a four-year wait!
joe rogan
Well, why don't you call your friend, Joe, and I'll get you hooked up.
tim dillon
I like how he goes, have you been there?
I'm like, no, I've tried to go.
There's 19 years.
joe rogan
Why didn't you ask me?
tim dillon
I should ask you.
I don't want to bother you.
joe rogan
You don't have to bother me.
You're my friend, too.
tim dillon
I know, but it's funny when you say that.
He's like, have you been there?
I'm like, no, no one can go anymore.
It's just you and Elon Musk in a spaceship landing, and they give you a spicy tuna roll, and then you go back up.
joe rogan
Did you see where they were trying to shame Elon for living in a nice house that's not even his?
Have you seen this article?
tim dillon
Yeah, I mean, it's silly, but I think Elon, doesn't he like this?
joe rogan
No, he doesn't.
He doesn't like this?
I was texting with him about this.
tim dillon
Doesn't he go on Twitter all the time for this reason?
joe rogan
He likes to fuck with people.
I think he likes this.
tim dillon
And the house is not that nice, by the way.
With all due respect, it's fine.
It's fine.
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing.
He could buy 150 of those.
Perhaps.
Elon Musk says he lives in a $50,000 tiny house.
Is he actually living at his friend's Austin mansion?
Listen, I know for a fact he doesn't live there.
He stayed there for a while when he first came to Austin.
He does not live there.
And not only that, even if he did, it's not even his house.
So you're giving the richest guy on planet Earth a hard time because he might have stayed in a nice house that wasn't his.
tim dillon
It's stupid.
joe rogan
But it's so crazy.
What do you want him to do with that money?
He's literally the richest guy in the world.
So what do you want him to do?
Do you think he shouldn't live in a nice house on Austin?
tim dillon
I don't think that, but I think people, we're at a point now where there's such a vast chasm between people that have a lot of money and the people of nothing, right?
And he's become kind of a symbol of that, so is Bezos, because they're literally now flying rockets into space.
All the while you have all of these other problems and all of these other issues.
So, you know, obviously people are going to...
And I think he likes the attention.
This is not a guy that doesn't want to be famous.
He loves fame.
100%.
You don't agree?
joe rogan
I don't know if he loves it.
I think he comes with the job and I don't think he minds it.
tim dillon
Oh, I think he quite enjoys it.
I mean, he seems to have fun.
joe rogan
Do you think he pursues it?
He definitely has fun, but he has fun with a lot of things.
tim dillon
Is Warren Buffet tweeting every day like this?
joe rogan
No, but Warren Buffet is not also inventing 50 different things at the same time.
tim dillon
He's a multi-billion.
joe rogan
He is, but he's an investor.
tim dillon
Sure.
joe rogan
Elon Musk is digging tunnels under cities and shooting rockets into space and revolutionizing electric cars.
tim dillon
Where are the tunnels?
joe rogan
Well, there's one from Vegas to LA. Have you seen it?
tim dillon
I've not seen it, and we don't need one.
That tunnel should collapse with everyone...
Going from Vegas to fucking L.A., that tunnel should collapse.
I think he likes it.
I think he likes being kind of the bad boy Jetsons.
He's like a Jetsons character.
joe rogan
Did I tell you about when I went to Vegas with Whitney and we got stranded there and we had to drive all the way back?
tim dillon
First of all, you got in a plane with Whitney?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a good time.
No?
You wouldn't do it?
tim dillon
Her energy is so bad that I would think all the engines would fail.
Like, I love Whitney, but when I'm around her, I'm terrified that, you know...
joe rogan
I got a video that we have to play on the podcast because it's so extraordinary.
But it is...
tim dillon
What was she doing in Vegas?
joe rogan
She had a gig.
And so I introduced her at the gig.
tim dillon
What is she doing with these gigs?
Doesn't she have enough money?
joe rogan
She doesn't have enough money.
She wants more money.
tim dillon
She has tens of millions of dollars.
joe rogan
She wants more.
tim dillon
So weird.
joe rogan
That's not how I feel.
tim dillon
She does these weird gigs.
I'm like, why don't you just relax?
joe rogan
I would do those weird gigs, too.
tim dillon
No.
I mean, this is crazy.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
It's a good move.
Here, Jamie.
It's a good move.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to send you this.
So, we're at Andrew Schultz's wedding.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
Thanks for the invite.
tim dillon
I'm kidding.
joe rogan
Listen, it's not my wedding.
You can come to my wedding.
tim dillon
None of us comedians got invited, but that's okay.
joe rogan
Is it getting to you, Jamie?
unidentified
Not yet.
joe rogan
It says...
unidentified
Oh, there you go.
joe rogan
Okay.
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
Okay, hold on.
tim dillon
How was the food at the wedding?
It looked like a beautiful wedding.
joe rogan
It was actually a sushi bar.
tim dillon
Oh, that's cool.
joe rogan
Sushi bar is a Montecito spot.
tim dillon
That's kind of cool.
joe rogan
They served fantastic sushi.
tim dillon
It really did look like a beautiful wedding, and I'm very happy for him.
joe rogan
Is it coming through, Jamie?
It says sending.
There you go.
Okay.
It was awesome.
So we got a little lit.
Me and the wife and Lex Friedman and Whitney.
And we decided to fly.
So Lex Friedman decided to not eat for 30 hours and drink bottles of whiskey.
tim dillon
What is his thing?
joe rogan
He was so blasted.
So at the end of the night, we wind up, let me just, before you play this, at the end of the night, we wind up stranded in Vegas, because Whitney got a private jet to get there, and then once they got her to the thing, they're like, get the fuck out of here.
She did the gig, and then there was supposed to be a jet home.
We got to the airport, they're like, there's no one here.
There's no crew.
tim dillon
She tried to blame it on vaccine mandates.
The jet's broken.
She's like, well, nobody wants to fly because of the vax.
I'm like, you just probably didn't book.
joe rogan
It's the jankiest jet ever.
tim dillon
Yeah, you didn't book an actual thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, wheels up.
So take a look at this.
Play this.
Oh, hello.
I've been out here in Vegas.
I went to Andrew Schultz's wedding.
unidentified
And Whitney Cummings and my wife and Rex Friedman.
And then we went to Vegas.
And...
Oh, Lex.
tim dillon
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Got a little drunk.
tim dillon
He looks like he just got the booster.
joe rogan
No, I'm not drunk.
I'm wide awake.
And I'm drinking coffee.
This is at 2 in the morning, by the way.
tim dillon
So now, what did you guys do if you can't get back in the morning?
joe rogan
We had to get a drive.
We had someone to drive us back.
tim dillon
To L.A.? Yes.
Four hours?
joe rogan
Four hours.
tim dillon
In like an Escalade or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, SUV. Four hours.
tim dillon
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That was the only way to get back.
tim dillon
Crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were like, we can't get you any flights, and the airport was closed because it was after midnight, so there's no flights back.
They don't fly out of Vegas late at night.
They're like, fuck you, stay and lose money.
So you just stay.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Interesting.
When you were in California, did you miss it a little?
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
None.
joe rogan
Montecito's gorgeous, though.
tim dillon
It's beautiful.
joe rogan
It's gorgeous.
tim dillon
You didn't miss it a little bit.
You didn't think about how fun it would be to have a home invasion.
You'd kill that guy.
That old bitch got shot, Joe.
You would kill that guy.
unidentified
Think about it.
joe rogan
I don't want to kill anybody, Tim.
tim dillon
I understand that, but you can.
That old bitch wasn't ready.
You're ready.
joe rogan
You think I'm ready?
tim dillon
You're ready.
joe rogan
Thank you.
tim dillon
I'm just saying.
joe rogan
Well, I went to California.
Did a little shooting.
Bang, bang, bang.
Went to Tarrant Tactical.
Got some training in.
tim dillon
Did you go to Felix?
joe rogan
Went to Felix.
tim dillon
I know you go to Felix.
Yeah, it's very good.
joe rogan
Oh my God, it's good.
You want to see pictures?
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
I'll show pictures.
tim dillon
It's great.
joe rogan
The food is fucking fantastic.
tim dillon
Get him to open something here.
joe rogan
He's actually thinking about it.
Because they keep fucking with him.
And the mandates are out of control.
tim dillon
Well, it's also, this is probably a good city where people should open, they could open a restaurant here because there's definitely room.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
You know?
joe rogan
There's room.
There's room.
And then, especially if you did it like on 6th Street, there's so much fucking open real estate.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So much available stuff.
tim dillon
Grab some.
joe rogan
And it's got a great food culture.
Like, there's so many people that like to go.
tim dillon
They like to eat.
joe rogan
Try to get into Red Ash out here, too.
tim dillon
It's hard, yeah.
joe rogan
It's fucking hard.
And then they have Jay Carver's, his new place.
There's a lot of great fucking restaurants out here, man.
Jeffries?
Have you been to Jeffries yet?
tim dillon
I haven't been to Jeffries.
Sensational.
I think there's a lot of room, too, though, for people that are trying to open stuff up, if they can do it, and they have a name in L.A., if they come out here, and as the city grows, their restaurant will grow.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah, I think so, for sure.
For sure.
This place is booming and it's just begun.
tim dillon
Well, this is Miami.
What's interesting is that Austin and Miami became these pandemic destinations that are actually now...
You have a huge tech influx to Austin.
Goldman Sachs is moving their wealth management division down to Miami.
Cathie Woods' ARC Investments moved down to St. Petersburg, Florida.
New York and L.A., Listen, I was always of the mind that those cities would always be the two big cities.
I think we all were.
But I think that now you are starting.
I don't know what that will result in, but you are seeing a lot of people leave those cities.
joe rogan
Well, don't you think a lot of it has to do with taxes?
It doesn't make sense financially to stay in those cities.
Because you used to get a tax incentive.
They used to get, even though the state taxes were high, you used to be able to take that state tax off of your federal tax.
tim dillon
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
You can't do that anymore.
And that was something that was changed by Trump, apparently.
You would know better than I would.
tim dillon
I think it's coming back where you're going to be able to do that, but I think it's twofold, right?
I think it's taxes.
I also think quality of life right now, whether you...
No matter how much into the crypto stuff you are or not, it's a massive disruption, right?
Like blockchain technology is massive disruption.
And a lot of the people that are into it are like, why am I going to live with this brand new technology that's revolutionizing and has the potential to revolutionize stuff?
Why am I going to live in the same city?
Why am I going to live in the same old city?
Why not be part of a city?
You're never going to impact New York.
You're not going to impact LA. But a lot of people are going, I want to be part of a city and help that city grow and really have an outsized influence in that part of the world.
joe rogan
You can definitely do that here.
tim dillon
You could do it here.
A lot of crypto people are moving to Miami.
Some of them are in Puerto Rico.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Puerto Rican thing is interesting.
tim dillon
4% taxes.
joe rogan
Gordon Ryan was explaining it to me last night.
tim dillon
The Paul brothers.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Paul brothers are doing that.
They spend 50% of their time in the States, 50% of their time there.
Capital gains taxes.
You don't have to pay at all.
Yeah.
tim dillon
I think if the taxes in LA went to things that made sense, people wouldn't have a problem.
joe rogan
I wouldn't have a problem with it.
tim dillon
The problem is that you can't collect record taxes from people and then have every measurable standard of life get worse.
joe rogan
A lot worse.
tim dillon
That can't happen.
joe rogan
Yeah, it can happen.
And the thing about Austin that I've loved more than anything is the people are more relaxed and friendly here.
tim dillon
Is that true?
joe rogan
100%.
tim dillon
Who was mean to you in LA? They're just weird.
I would see people around you and you were always treated like a god.
This is my one thing you say that.
You're like, people are friendlier in Texas.
I've never seen anyone be anything but very happy to see you.
joe rogan
In LA. It's not like people- Yeah, but it's not like I don't know that people aren't nice.
Like I see the way they talk to other people.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
I see the way they talk to me if they don't know who I am.
tim dillon
Yeah.
The people here are friendly, but I think people everywhere are kind of friendly, right?
joe rogan
You think so?
I think they're tense in LA. I think there's too much traffic and too many people.
tim dillon
Yeah, but the traffic's coming here.
I mean, you got to be careful what you wish for.
It's a joke.
It's gonna not be a joke.
It's a joke.
It'll not be a joke soon.
joe rogan
It's a joke.
tim dillon
Keep telling everyone how great it is.
joe rogan
I leave here at 5 o'clock all the time.
It's like, la-dee-da, I'm home in 10 minutes.
It ain't shit.
tim dillon
Sure.
But I think that, you know, you were treated nicely in L.A. People liked you in L.A. Do you think that people are nicer here?
It's hard to...
I think people are sweet everywhere, and then people suck everywhere.
I don't think there's a real...
I've never noticed a huge difference between the way people act.
I think people in New York want things very quick, but they're not dicks, they just want things very quick.
Kelly's a little more laid back.
I don't think...
The man on Sixth Street who stabbed me last week was very sweet.
joe rogan
You don't stand still on 6th Street.
You got to keep walking.
Yeah.
tim dillon
But I mean, listen, there's tremendous potential in the city.
The city has some issues like everything else.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
But there's some issues.
joe rogan
There's issues whenever you get giant groups of people together.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
But I think there's less issues when you get a million versus when you get 20 million.
tim dillon
Well, you're going to have more than a million here soon.
You get like 400-something people moving here every day.
joe rogan
Is that true?
400?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where are they going?
tim dillon
I don't know.
Not your neighborhood.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I tried to tell Tony Hinchcliffe to buy a house.
And he's like, oh, I don't know.
I don't know if I should spend this kind of money.
I go, it'll be worth more money in the future.
I'm like, okay, just be poor forever.
Figure it out.
Come on, man.
You got money.
tim dillon
Yeah.
He should buy something.
joe rogan
Buy a fucking house.
Let's get this nice house.
He's like, I don't know if I can go for it.
I'm like, fucking go for it.
What do you do?
Want to rent forever?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Come on.
tim dillon
Interesting.
joe rogan
If all these people are moving here, then it's a good investment.
It's a nice house.
tim dillon
For sure.
I think that owning an estate that is Texas or Florida is great.
joe rogan
Yeah, Texas or Florida.
A lot of people are moving to Florida, too.
Maybe even more people are moving to Florida, I think, than here.
tim dillon
I think it's good to have a spot in those two places.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
You know?
At least I love New York and LA, too, and hopefully they get their act together.
joe rogan
And you've been touring everywhere, right?
tim dillon
I've been everywhere.
joe rogan
The stark difference between some cities, it's so strange.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
You go to some cities and everybody's in a frothy panic and you go to other cities, it's like the world is completely normal.
tim dillon
Now we're in like a malaise where people are like, they don't know what's going on.
They have like the mask is hanging off.
Like what I've seen now is it's like much more, it's not as starkly different as it was before.
Like it was very stark for a while.
You go to Nashville and San Francisco and Nashville's like, woohoo!
And San Francisco's like, ah!
Now I feel like it's kind of a malaise where everybody's like, hey man, what the hell?
People are kind of starting to just enter into this broken spirit.
People now just have a broken spirit everywhere.
joe rogan
You just did San Francisco, right?
tim dillon
I loved it, yeah.
joe rogan
What was it like hanging out in the city?
tim dillon
It's fine.
joe rogan
Do they have vaccine mandates for food and everything, for restaurants?
Yes.
tim dillon
They made me show my thing when I had a...
It's funny, but it was...
No, I mean, again, supposedly the crime there is going up.
I'm sure it is.
I didn't see any of it.
Like, we were in the cash show, the Tenderloin.
We were just driving around looking after the show for what was open.
We ended up in a great Chinese food spot there.
joe rogan
Did you have to show a vaccine card to eat there?
tim dillon
No, we ate in a hotel.
We just grabbed it and left.
It was late, but I didn't feel unsafe there, but I'm sure that in certain areas you would feel unsafe.
joe rogan
So it didn't feel any different than normal San Francisco to you?
tim dillon
Not really.
Like, I could see where the issues are.
L.A. has felt the most different when it was like...
You know, because you really...
L.A.'s so big.
And you have to drive.
So if you have a friend somewhere else, you've got to drive 30 minutes.
And in that 30 minutes, you can see a massive display of problems in L.A. That's, I think, the difference.
San Fran's a small city, so there's problems, but LA, you're like, okay, get in your car, and five minutes in, you're like, Jesus!
That seems to be where I've noticed the stark differences the most.
But supposedly they've cleaned up Venice.
They're cleaning things up.
joe rogan
What?
The beach?
tim dillon
The encampments and stuff.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Interesting.
I was just there.
tim dillon
No, people can't do it.
People have had enough.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have had enough, but just how long does that last?
How much change can they do?
And what's the timeline before things get back to 2018 levels?
What's the timeline?
Is it 10 years?
tim dillon
That's a great question.
joe rogan
Because that's probably a realistic assessment, if you really thought about how much time it takes to bring a city back to where it was before the pandemic.
tim dillon
We also look at, like, if New York and LA go down, it's kind of like the country's in real trouble.
joe rogan
New York's never going to go down.
LA has more of a chance of going down because so many people there are transient in the first place.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
It's a different kind of environment in LA. There's very few people that are proud to be from LA. Not very few, but like less percentage.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people who are proud to be from New York, and they don't want to let anybody take New York away from them.
And they have a lot of hope in Eric Abrams.
Yes.
Eric Adams?
tim dillon
Eric Adams.
Adams, I believe.
joe rogan
Eric Adams, who is the former police officer who's now the mayor, and a lot of people have hope for him because he's a Democrat, but he's also tough on crime.
tim dillon
That city, if New York goes down, you're looking at the country going down.
New York is the crown jewel of America in terms of cities, right?
joe rogan
Right, but with one of the worst fucking mayors that's ever existed.
tim dillon
Maybe worst politician in history.
He's horrible.
joe rogan
He's got a fake name.
tim dillon
Yeah, he's very, very bad.
joe rogan
Somehow or another...
tim dillon
He doesn't care.
joe rogan
What was his name again?
tim dillon
Warren Wilhelm.
joe rogan
Warren Wilhelm became Bill de Blasio.
tim dillon
He's a joke.
It's very bad.
joe rogan
He's a strange guy, man.
tim dillon
Yeah, he's a freak.
joe rogan
And there's $850 million missing.
Do you know about that?
tim dillon
No.
joe rogan
His wife had some mental health initiative, and they raised $850 million.
It's unaccounted for.
tim dillon
I didn't hear that.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, you need to see this.
tim dillon
I bet.
joe rogan
Google this.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it's one of those things that people in New York keep bringing up.
My friend John Joseph keeps bringing this up.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like that this guy and his wife, or somehow or another, have misappropriated or lost count of or lost track of an enormous sum of money that was supposed to go to, like, mental health.
tim dillon
Right.
Well...
joe rogan
What happens with that?
I mean, how does someone not go to jail?
Here it is.
Where has $850 million gone?
Bill de Blasio's wife can't account for a staggering amount of taxpayer money that the New York mayor gave her for a mental health project.
She was assigned an $850 million budget for a Thrive New York City program.
But records show Scheme has failed to keep track of what it spent the money on.
A small amount of data that was collected shows it fell far short of targets.
Despite that, organizers have expanded the budget to $1 billion over five years.
That is what happens when terrible politicians control enormous sums of wealth with impunity in one of the greatest cities the world's ever known.
tim dillon
Yeah, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Nearly 100 billion stolen from COVID-19 relief programs, Secret Service says.
jamie vernon
That's even a minimum.
joe rogan
A minimum of nearly $100 billion has been stolen from government COVID-19 relief programs set up to help businesses and people who lost their jobs due to the pandemic, according to the U.S. Secret Service.
Isn't the Secret Service supposed to be protecting the president?
Why are they looking for the money that they gave for COVID-19?
tim dillon
There's some financial harm, too.
joe rogan
Okay, Small Business Administration, Roy Dodson, Agency's National Pandemic Fraud Recovery Coordinator, in an interview.
The Secret Service didn't include COVID-19 fraud cases prosecuted by the Justice Department, where roughly 3% of the $3.4 trillion in COVID-19 relief dispersed by the government, the amount stolen from the pandemic benefits shows the sheer size of the pot is enticing to the criminals, Dodson said.
tim dillon
It's the grift at the end.
It's the grift at the end.
Everybody right now is just trying to steal the last amount of money.
Nobody really has any faith in anything.
They're just like, what can we grab?
joe rogan
Is this the end of the Empire?
tim dillon
It's the middle of the end.
It's not even the beginning of the end.
joe rogan
Well, it is the winter of death.
Have you seen that?
For the unvaccinated, the winter of death.
Slightly negative.
tim dillon
It doesn't seem like leadership.
Well, what's weird is that they've also said this is kind of a mild variant.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's not going to.
joe rogan
Well, they're ramping it up in the light of the most mild variant ever.
Literally, one person has died in the United States, and now they've taken that back, and they're not saying he died from COVID. The guy had a series of serious health problems, and he also tested positive for COVID, the Omicron variant, when he died.
But the Omicron variant, according to most people's assessment, is basically a cold.
Smiled, yeah.
You don't lose a sense of smell.
You don't lose...
You're not getting the fevers.
You're just getting cold coughs and headaches and body aches.
tim dillon
It's...
We're all at the point now with this where we're all just...
We've all hit the wall.
You know?
Like, I think people are just kind of tired and it's become confusing to people on a level that is...
Far and away like you know when this started people were like well We've got this thing we're gonna do we have to do Hopefully there'll be a treatment some time a vaccine whatever it would be now There's 20 vaccines half of them work.
There's 10 treatments Some of them are good some of them aren't if you bring them up people will accuse you of you know being a colluding with whatever like you know The masks work and they don't work.
It's like people are just tired.
Everybody's tired.
joe rogan
If this was a shitty movie, I'd be really tempted to fast forward to about five minutes before the end where you see the Chinese soldiers in hazmat suits with gray skies carrying machine guns moving across Chicago.
tim dillon
I'm hoping for it.
joe rogan
Nuclear waste.
tim dillon
By the way, the idea that they wouldn't run the country better is crazy.
I think maybe that's our only hope.
joe rogan
South Africa's huge Omicron wave appears to be subsiding just as quickly as it grew.
Yeah, it burns through people.
And that's the idea about these vaccines, excuse me, these viruses rather, that as they, most viruses, it's not a universal truth, but most viruses, as they mutate, they become less virulent and more contagious.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
And this is the best example of that.
This is like extremely contagious and not virulent at all.
tim dillon
I just hope that when the pandemic ends, we can still hear from Fauci.
I want to still hear from him.
joe rogan
He's never going to go away now.
tim dillon
Check him.
Well, I said on my show, the real pandemic is vanity, you know?
And that's, you know, he's been...
He should have resigned.
Somebody else should be doing the job.
I mean, it's silly.
joe rogan
He's not good at it.
tim dillon
No, but his attitude is, well, this is my whole life.
joe rogan
He's science.
I am science.
tim dillon
It's a bad PR. This has been a mess from the jump, and I think people are just tired of it.
We need to move on from this to what will eventually be the total economic collapse coming in six months.
joe rogan
What are we looking at in six years?
If I could put you in a Rip Van Winkle capsule and pop you out in six years, what are we seeing?
tim dillon
Another, an economic crash.
joe rogan
Another one.
tim dillon
A crash.
Like a serious haircut.
joe rogan
Is there a bubble that needs to burst?
tim dillon
I don't know.
You tell me.
There's people selling pictures of dogs to each other for $80 million online.
You tell me if there's a bubble.
joe rogan
Look, I got an NFT right there.
tim dillon
Yeah, I like that one.
joe rogan
That's pretty.
That makes sense.
The Beeple stuff makes sense to me.
tim dillon
I think the NFT technology is great, and I think that a lot of it's going to really be 100% the way digital art, digital real estate and stuff, but...
You know, yeah, there's a bubble.
Our interest rates have been artificially low forever.
You can get a 30-year mortgage right now, sub three, which is great.
joe rogan
Sub three and a non-adjustable?
tim dillon
Non-adjustable.
Well, you could get...
A fixed rate might be in the low three, but I mean, it's crazy the amount of free money that's out there right now.
You have that coupled with the fact that we are in how many?
What's the national debt number now?
20 trillion.
I mean, it's silly.
80% of dollars in circulation were printed in like the last 24 months or something.
There's some crazy statistic like that.
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
tim dillon
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
80%?
tim dillon
Something very high.
Jamie can tell you.
joe rogan
And so this is to deal with the inflation because of COVID? Yeah.
tim dillon
In terms of when is all of that going to self-correct and how much blood is in the water and how painful that is?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
For sure.
I mean, there's no way we get out of this without a real issue.
joe rogan
So do you think that manufacturing has to come back to America?
tim dillon
That'll never happen.
joe rogan
Never?
tim dillon
Never.
I don't think you're going to see large-scale manufacturing in this country ever again.
unidentified
Really?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you think it's because of the environmental impact of large-scale manufacturing or the financial or the both?
tim dillon
Is that into just labor costs are going to go where, you know, labor jobs go where the costs are lower and they'll never be lower here.
But I think we need...
Yeah, 40% of U.S. dollars in existence were printed in the last 12 months.
Jesus Christ.
So, I mean, that's a problem.
joe rogan
But that's why...
Is America repeating the same mistake of 1921 Weimar Germany?
tim dillon
Yeah, Weimar Germany.
Bad.
So, in terms of what's going to happen in the next six years, I mean, there's probably no way we avoid...
You know, there's going to be a crash.
joe rogan
China and Russia must be sitting back licking their chops right now.
Just going, look at this.
Time is now.
tim dillon
Well, that's why we need to go.
That's why we need another scam.
And the NFT thing's big and we need it.
joe rogan
Look at the national debt.
Look at it run.
tim dillon
We need crypto.
We need Bitcoin.
We need Ethereum.
We need you to back a coin and stop sitting on the sidelines and actually get in and back a coin.
Do you want to save the economy or not?
joe rogan
I don't know if there's too many coins.
How do you know who's going to use what?
tim dillon
You need a coin, then you let everyone buy your merch with that coin.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck that.
tim dillon
Buy tickets to your shows with that coin.
joe rogan
That's nonsense.
tim dillon
You have to believe.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Why?
tim dillon
Because if you don't believe in your own coin, why am I going to believe in it?
joe rogan
I'd rather stay in the Ponzi scheme forever and ever and ever.
tim dillon
No, no, no, no, no.
We need a decentralized financial instrument.
joe rogan
Okay.
How do we do that?
Which one do you back?
tim dillon
Well, I have a Bitcoin.
I have one Bitcoin and I have five Ethereum.
I'm a huge player in the crypto market.
I'm very big.
joe rogan
What about Dogecoin?
tim dillon
I don't have any Dogecoin.
joe rogan
But it's right there.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that little cute fellow.
tim dillon
Yeah, that is kind of cute.
So that's NFT you got?
joe rogan
That's a gig of Chad.
tim dillon
How much is that?
joe rogan
How much does it cost?
We don't know.
It was free.
It was a gift.
It only cost what people are willing to spend.
tim dillon
But I'm just saying, you got to get involved right now because creators, I'm telling you, This is the next move.
You're going to be able to sell your jokes, one joke for however much money.
joe rogan
I'm trying to squirrel away an enormous sum of money and never work again.
tim dillon
I understand that.
First of all, I believe you could have retired at like 27 and never worked again.
Truly.
So this idea that you have to keep...
But no, you've got to get into crypto.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that I have to pay.
Artist Pack just sold 266,445 shares of an NFT for $91.8 million on Nifty Gateway, making him arguably pricier than Jeff Koons.
tim dillon
That's right.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
30,000 buyers bought portions of the work which could, in theory, be merged into a single NFT. Like, what does that even fucking mean?
tim dillon
It means by ignoring this, you're leaving a lot of money on the table.
joe rogan
Is that his NFT? It looks like three moons.
jamie vernon
That's probably a picture of one...
To be honest...
That's his NFT? It gets real complicated, but yeah, there's 30,000 of them available.
If you bought 10 of them, you could merge those all together and make a new one.
joe rogan
Here's my thought.
Can that guy just take that money now?
jamie vernon
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And that's his money.
jamie vernon
Yep.
joe rogan
He's got 91 million real American dollars.
jamie vernon
More than that.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I believe he's sold over $300 million in the last two years.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Remember when being an artist, you were guaranteed to be poor?
Now all you have to do is sell NFTs.
tim dillon
Digital ownership is going to allow artists to make money.
It's true.
joe rogan
They're going to be the most wealthy people.
That might be a good thing.
tim dillon
They're not going to be the most wealthy people.
joe rogan
Who's going to be the most wealthy?
tim dillon
And the same people that are always the most wealthy, you know?
joe rogan
Well, maybe these fucks will get into NFTs.
tim dillon
Well, I'm just saying you're missing an opportunity that...
joe rogan
Interesting.
tim dillon
You gotta get involved.
joe rogan
What should I do?
tim dillon
I would immediately come up, have a few meetings with people.
joe rogan
And make a coin?
tim dillon
Make a coin!
Come up with a cryptocurrency that functions in the Rogan universe for your merch, your tickets, everything.
joe rogan
Do people do that?
It's like Motley Crue coin?
tim dillon
That's right.
You need to have a digital currency that you allow your fans to buy all of your stuff with.
joe rogan
And then that only works with me and my stuff.
tim dillon
That's right.
jamie vernon
Or someone else could adopt it.
tim dillon
Or someone else could adopt it.
And now if RoganCoin works out, well then maybe a lot of the comedians in your orbit start going, well that's a very effective way to do it, and they all use your cryptocurrency.
And then you have a feudal cryptocurrency empire, and you own all this digital real estate, and then you start selling NFTs of things in the studio, and you amass all of this money.
joe rogan
Do you want to manage this fund?
tim dillon
I would like to get involved.
I've met some very respectable, upstanding people in Miami that want to get involved immediately.
joe rogan
How much coke are they on?
tim dillon
They're alert.
It's not Adderall.
It's not even coke anymore.
It's Adderall and Vyvanse.
joe rogan
Yeah?
What's Vyvanse?
tim dillon
I don't know.
Something where you chew your tongue.
It's like an Adderall.
It's like a slow-release Adderall.
joe rogan
If you want to manage this, I will give you a hefty section of the price.
tim dillon
I'm going to do a movie funded in crypto.
Really?
I'm meeting right now with people to fund a movie in crypto, a comedy movie, because the studio system sucks.
Nothing has been made that's funny.
Respect to Black Bar Mitzvah with Tiffany Haddish and Billy Crystal.
Haven't seen it.
Sure, it's amazing.
But everything else is bad.
I think that's the title of the movie.
So...
I'm talking to people about funding a movie in crypto and letting people buy it with crypto.
Why not?
People want to see funny stuff.
You can easily fund a movie in crypto and people can buy it using a digital wallet.
Why not?
Because the studio system, traditional Hollywood, all that stuff sucks right now.
And, you know, this is the way things are going to get made right now.
Artists and creators that are not paying attention to this stuff, we can joke around about it, make fun of it, because a lot of it's crazy.
It's like anything else.
A lot of it is crazy and silly.
It's overvalued.
There's bad actors in it, of course.
That being said, blockchain technology is not going away, and I think it will eventually revolutionize how people can make things, fund things.
All of the changes that allow people to crowdsource or crowdfund their own projects, I think...
With crypto, it becomes even more powerful and transformative.
joe rogan
So with crypto, when you say you're going to fund a move with crypto, do you have specific coins in mind?
Are you going to create a coin to fund this?
tim dillon
You do it a million different ways.
I think I'm talking to people right now about the best way to do it.
And I think that you want to do it in a way that...
You know, you want to do it, make a really great movie, and then you want the process to be repeatable.
So you want it to be a process you can do again, so you want to do it the right way.
joe rogan
When I talk to people that want to talk to me about crypto, it's exhausting.
I feel like they're stealing my air.
tim dillon
I understand that.
joe rogan
And I can't breathe.
I just want to get away from them really quickly.
tim dillon
I understand that, but here's the reality of the situation.
It's because you haven't talked about it enough.
It's like working out.
joe rogan
Really?
tim dillon
When you work out once, it hurts.
You work out every day, you feel great.
joe rogan
So I should talk about crypto every day?
tim dillon
Every day.
So we should have a crypto corner here on the JRE? The fact that you don't have a crypto podcast is insane.
Yeah.
This is probably one of the crypto people right now.
joe rogan
They're hearing you.
tim dillon
From Miami, calling, saying, thank God.
joe rogan
We got a plan!
tim dillon
Joe, this is the future.
There's no other way around it.
joe rogan
Interesting.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because the incompetence of the Federal Reserve and the government, the way they're handling money, and the fact that they have access and control.
tim dillon
A decentralized financial instrument like Bitcoin was inevitable.
And Ethereum has even less problems than Bitcoin does, like it's also- Why is that?
I forget exactly why.
I think that Ethereum's, and Jamie can pull this up, but the thing about, and I don't understand too much about it, but there seems to be less problems with the actual blockchain technology with Ethereum than Bitcoin.
I don't exactly know why.
But people love Ethereum.
So when we open up the comedy club- Like the NFTs things, a lot of it's on their blockchain.
And those NFT things are huge right now.
A lot of it's on Ethereum.
I don't know why.
I'm not pretending to be an expert in this.
But I will just say that without knowing much about it, I am convinced it's the future.
And if people doubt it, they and their family should go on a list.
joe rogan
I'm just saying, it's probably everyone's going to be on a list by the end of 10 years.
tim dillon
Jamie, can you find out why Ethereum doesn't have the problems with Bitcoin?
I mean, does anyone want to carry more?
jamie vernon
That's a big problem, I guess.
It has to do with storing the blockchain.
joe rogan
Just Google why Ethereum is superior to Bitcoin.
Just Google that.
tim dillon
Because there's a lot of people that feel like that, Jamie.
joe rogan
See if something clear comes up quickly.
tim dillon
I'm just saying it's interesting stuff, right?
And it allows people to have freedom.
jamie vernon
Here's the quick answer.
tim dillon
Which is good.
Freedom is good.
joe rogan
Bitcoin allows only public, permissionless, or sensor-proof transactions to take place.
Ethereum allows both permissioned and permissionless transactions.
The average block time for Ethereum is significantly less than Bitcoin's 12 seconds versus 10 minutes.
tim dillon
It's faster.
What's good about a drive-through?
You go through it faster.
jamie vernon
Right.
tim dillon
It's like Chick-fil-A. Ethereum's like Chick-fil-A. It's like, oh, the line looks long, but it moves.
joe rogan
I read that and I still don't know what I read.
tim dillon
Well, Joe, it's not about knowing.
It's about kind of believing and just getting into it.
You just got to get into it.
You got to believe.
You're too much of a stickler on like, what's the actual thing?
It's like, let's just dive in.
This is when we had mortgages.
We didn't know how these things were going to work, but people were very excited about having a pool.
joe rogan
So it's paralysis by analysis on my part, right?
Is that what's going on?
tim dillon
I think you're a big brain concept guy, and what you need to do is just kind of stop losing yourself in the deets, sit back and go, everyone's having a lot of fun, and people are smiling.
joe rogan
If I lost all of my money in Bitcoin, that would be a real issue.
tim dillon
But you never would.
You never would.
But, listen, it's an inevitability.
And if people ask you too many specific questions, just say it's an inevitability over and over again.
joe rogan
What is Bitcoin worth now?
jamie vernon
Today?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Just under $50,000.
joe rogan
What's the highest it's ever been?
jamie vernon
$67,000 or so.
joe rogan
And don't they predict it will one day go to a million?
tim dillon
$500,000 a coin.
jamie vernon
Yeah, there's predictions that by the end of this year, which would be a week from now, it's going to be over $100,000, which...
tim dillon
Well, that's maybe not true.
But it's going to be $500,000 a coin.
That's what they said at Art Basel.
I believe it.
jamie vernon
Yeah, by next summer, it could be 250k.
There's a lot of predictions.
joe rogan
What's Art Basel?
tim dillon
It's a place where people in Miami go to do drugs and talk about the future of art and the digital landscape.
It's the metaverse, except it's real.
joe rogan
But it's art, right?
tim dillon
It's art show, yeah.
It's always been a famous art show.
It's pretty cool.
But now, because obviously a lot of art is digital and crypto is moving, the NFTs are on the Ethereum blockchain, it's become a huge crypto event, too.
joe rogan
I don't want to name any names, but I've gotten emails from the shadiest people I know, wanting me to get involved in crypto.
tim dillon
But they're nice people!
I've met them in Art Basel, they're lovely people.
joe rogan
But the ones that I know that want to talk to me about crypto and NFTs, they're the fucking shadiest people I know.
tim dillon
Yes, but we need those people because they're going to get us out of this predicament we're in.
joe rogan
You think?
tim dillon
Yeah, we need a scam.
The country's run on a succession of scams.
joe rogan
But how is this going to protect us from China?
tim dillon
Well, I don't know.
joe rogan
Isn't that the real issue?
They're buying up everything.
tim dillon
It'll pump up the economy.
Do you own any digital real estate?
joe rogan
What?
tim dillon
Do you own any digital real estate?
joe rogan
I'm going to ask you again.
What?
tim dillon
I mean, I know you have like a house and everything.
What does that mean?
It's real estate in the metaverse.
It's real estate.
I don't understand.
You're such a boomer.
You need to own digital real estate, Joe.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Snoop Dogg paid $450,000 to be Snoop Dogg's metaverse.
Oh, someone paid $450,000 to be Snoop Dogg's metaverse neighbor.
Wow, he's now a resident of the sandbox metaverse.
tim dillon
In 20 years, you're not going to be able to go outside because of the climate.
So you're going to spend most of your time in a pod, and you're going to live online.
Your NFTs are going to be your precious art, and you're going to live in the metaverse in digital real estate.
joe rogan
So is Snoop making all that money?
Like, if it's $458,000 to be his neighbor, is that...
His money now?
unidentified
No.
tim dillon
No, it's just that when a celebrity moves into a building, people want to live in it.
joe rogan
Okay, good question now.
So who gets that money?
Where's that money?
jamie vernon
The person who owned the land.
joe rogan
That's nonsense.
tim dillon
What do you mean?
joe rogan
It's nonsense.
tim dillon
How is it nonsense?
jamie vernon
They don't get all of it, though.
joe rogan
But there's no land.
tim dillon
What do you mean there's no land?
unidentified
There's a digital land.
jamie vernon
This little video is what it is.
This is the sandbox.
This is Snoop's land in the sandbox.
joe rogan
Go back to that.
What is this?
jamie vernon
This is the sandbox.
joe rogan
Hold on.
jamie vernon
So, I'll pause it real quick.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Keep it going.
I want to see how this plays out.
Wave 1. Launching December 2nd.
Starting time.
tim dillon
He gets it.
jamie vernon
Alright, so there you go.
Before it goes too far.
So each of those little blocks are for sale.
What?
And essentially, see how it says on sale?
That's a bigger block.
That's like nine blocks together.
tim dillon
You could start, on the metaverse, you could start a Rogan land where nobody has to take a vaccine.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
But this isn't even real life.
I'm so confused.
tim dillon
This is real life.
It's what real life's becoming.
jamie vernon
What's happening in that, Joe, just like for something you might understand, which sort of showed right there, that very beginning part, what can happen in the sandbox is like Roblox.
So you can develop a game in your space and people can come play it and then they can give you money to play it.
Or hang out?
Or watch the concert you're hosting?
tim dillon
What if you owned...
You could start your own country, essentially, in the metaverse.
You buy up all this digital real estate.
And then what if Gavin Newsom ran for governor of it, won, and destroyed it?
He'd be fucking you twice.
In the real world and in the metaverse.
No, but you've got to get involved in this, man.
I'm telling you.
This is the future.
jamie vernon
Yeah, Atari is invested in here.
This is Snoop's little plot down here, but all these green areas are owned by other people.
I'm getting the plot.
tim dillon
Do you have a plot?
joe rogan
This is where?
What is this?
jamie vernon
This would be the sandbox metaverse.
joe rogan
So there's metaverses?
There'll be the Facebook metaverse?
tim dillon
For sure there's a ton of metaverses.
You can't afford to be in certain metaverses.
Certain metaverses you can.
joe rogan
Which one could I not afford to be in?
tim dillon
Not you specifically, but I'm talking about regular people like myself.
I don't know that I can afford this metaverse.
But I'm going to start in another metaverse and work hard.
Listen, the country's over.
Have a little fun.
In 20 years, there's people on the streets with guns dragging you out of your house and killing you.
You might as well have a little fun.
joe rogan
Do you feel more freedom when you do your wild rants with aviator sunglasses on?
tim dillon
Yeah, well, you know what it was?
We're doing it because the lights were burning my eyes.
We had this little studio, but now the studio's bigger, so I don't wear them as much.
joe rogan
I feel like there's something about you wearing them that makes it more fun.
unidentified
I like them.
tim dillon
I like them with the hat.
I think it's fun, yeah.
joe rogan
You're freer.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you're protected.
You can say wild shit and no one can see your pupils.
tim dillon
Yeah, because it's not me.
I have shades on.
We're cutting this digital real estate clip, and I'm going to put it out online.
Don't start any problems.
joe rogan
So these metaverses, there'll be many, many metaverses.
unidentified
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
So we could start a JRE metaverse.
tim dillon
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And what would we do with it?
tim dillon
We get the Weinsteins and Rhonda Patrick, Naval Ravikant.
joe rogan
And what do they do in there?
tim dillon
The same thing they do here.
Talk shit.
joe rogan
Interesting.
tim dillon
Just babble.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jamie vernon
There will be a way to broadcast content a la YouTube, but it wouldn't be YouTube.
It can be YouTube maybe right now if that's how someone programmed it.
joe rogan
Broadcast content.
jamie vernon
This is like creating new websites.
joe rogan
But you have to have a server, right?
So you have to pay for the server.
jamie vernon
You would, but it wouldn't be going to, you know, wide open for everybody, because it's the only people that are accessing it, and then they're paying to access your thing, so it's paying for itself.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
I feel like I better get in on this before it gets far away from me.
tim dillon
I'm telling you, I know that it seems crazy, but young kids, they're digitally native.
They grow up online.
joe rogan
Digitally native.
That's a funny expression.
tim dillon
Jake Paul explained this entire thing to me, and this is why I know it.
joe rogan
Did he?
tim dillon
Yes.
He's like brilliant about this.
joe rogan
Really?
tim dillon
Yes.
I'm telling you.
He understands this better than anyone.
joe rogan
Really?
tim dillon
I'm telling you he does.
joe rogan
I believe you.
tim dillon
Young kids are digitally native.
Everything is online.
All of their prized possessions they'll own will eventually be online.
Their formative experiences are primarily online.
Their friendships are online.
You know, they're kind of living online already.
They just don't have an address.
So digital real estate's like that next step of like, why not have a badass house?
You can't afford a house now in America, and soon you won't be able to afford one in the metaverse.
The metaverse is Austin three years ago.
joe rogan
It's true.
So the metaverse, when you get into these digital spaces, it'll be like an increasingly more sophisticated version of virtual reality.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
As time goes on, it'll get better and better.
unidentified
That's right.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Wow.
tim dillon
So an NFT... Would be maybe something you have is like, people are like, whoa, look at that!
joe rogan
But you have to bank on the right metaverse.
Because if you bank on the blockbuster of metaverses, then you have all this stock in some bullshit ass metaverse and it goes away.
tim dillon
You gotta make good.
jamie vernon
The average user will be like, you can get in free Facebook, we'll call it, it'd be like Pong, but there will be the Quake version that you would want to get into for 10, 15 bucks a month.
joe rogan
The Sandbox metaverse, is that the same company as Sandbox, the digital, the virtual reality company that I go to?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
No?
Why do they steal their name?
tim dillon
The Sandbox and Sandbox VR. Will there be a little St. James metaverse, like a little pedophile island metaverse?
jamie vernon
Probably.
tim dillon
There has to be.
joe rogan
St. James, is that where his island is?
unidentified
Little St. James, yeah.
joe rogan
Is that the name of his island?
tim dillon
Yeah, Little St. James, like a little pedophile island metaverse.
joe rogan
Is that island for sale?
tim dillon
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
You think so?
tim dillon
I think, yeah.
joe rogan
I think there'd be a real problem to buy it, right?
Like, nobody wants to buy his ranch, apparently.
He has a giant ranch in New Mexico, and everybody's like, meh.
tim dillon
That apartment in New York City.
joe rogan
They got rid of that quick.
tim dillon
They dumped that quick.
joe rogan
Yeah, nobody gives a fuck.
That's like American Psycho.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Remember when he...
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did you read the book?
Yeah, it's great.
It's like people just cleaning up bodies that he would leave behind.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And like, shut the fuck up.
We're trying to sell an apartment.
tim dillon
I think that...
I think it's all interesting, this stuff.
joe rogan
It is definitely interesting, because I didn't see it coming, so clearly I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
And these guys, like that guy made $90 million, and Beeple made $100 million last year, and he's fucking balling out of control.
tim dillon
It's time to start going in that direction.
joe rogan
My Beeple drives a Corolla.
tim dillon
Yeah?
joe rogan
You should get a fucking Rolls Royce, right?
What do you have to earn before you get a Rolls Royce?
When do you step up?
tim dillon
I won't get anything in the physical world until I've set myself up in the metaverse.
Truly.
I mean, I want a mansion in the metaverse.
Who cares what anyone has in real life?
Real life is a distraction at best.
People are talking about traffic.
Things are falling apart.
The infrastructure is crumbling.
The metaverse is perfect and serene.
joe rogan
No more working out.
tim dillon
Well, in the metaverse, you can work out.
joe rogan
But there's no effort.
It's not hard.
tim dillon
What do you mean?
joe rogan
You won't be struggling because you won't have real exercise.
tim dillon
Struggle's where you find it.
joe rogan
But I mean, exercise, like heart rate increasing.
tim dillon
Heart?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
The metaverse will provide.
joe rogan
So will you download your consciousness into a computer?
tim dillon
100%.
100%.
Really?
I think we've got to start doing this very soon.
What did Alex Jones say?
unidentified
Get rid of your body for the golden silicon gods.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what he said.
I anticipate one day visiting Tim.
And Tim is 90 feet tall.
He's wearing a golden crown.
That's right.
And a diaper.
Yes.
And you're sitting on a throne in your version of the metaverse.
And I'm like, fuck, I should have listened to you.
tim dillon
From your mouth to God's ears.
joe rogan
And you have like piles of gold, like that dragon in Lord of the Rings.
Yes.
Smog.
tim dillon
I'm telling you right now, you're at the tail end of the physical world mattering.
joe rogan
What's this?
jamie vernon
This is an episode of Black Mirror that was maybe season one or two.
It's called 15 Million Merits.
But essentially, this kid wakes up in our room, all screens, and he spends his day riding a bicycle on treadmills earning money so they can do stuff in this fake world that they live in.
And right now there's a push in games, a new level of games calling play to earn games, which you're going to be making money, most likely a cryptocurrency that you can then spend on...
In theory, whatever.
tim dillon
Look at Minecraft.
I mean, those kids play Minecraft all day.
They've created these crazy, big, huge...
I mean, they have millions of people watching them, and they've created these worlds.
I mean, this is just...
I used to dismiss gaming, but it's much more substantive than I had imagined.
joe rogan
Have you started to come to this opinion about NFTs and this metaverse?
Have you started to come to this slowly?
Was there an awakening moment?
What made you realize that this is the future?
tim dillon
I think it's slowly, but I just believe, for example, I dismiss gaming as this adolescent thing, but it's truly not.
Especially if you look at the movies and TV that we're making right now, the vast majority of it isn't checking the boxes that people want it to.
And then you have these games Where these crazy like interactive games, these thriving communities that are built that are much more substantive than I have imagined and they have drama and they have excitement and they have all these things, these story arcs and everything that are much more complex than I had initially imagined.
I was overly dismissive of those online communities.
I think in the same way that a lot of people are overly dismissive of what's going on right now.
We're already doing it.
That's the thing.
We're already kind of living online.
This is what I don't think people realize.
I don't think it's this massive jump.
I think it's going to be much more immersive, but I think we're already almost...
When's the last...
Most people are talking about things they see online.
Most people are...
That's driving the conversation.
I don't think it's a far cry to suggest that...
You know, we're in a metaverse of sorts already.
joe rogan
Well, something has to be done to stop online censorship.
Maybe something decentralized and something that is controlled, you know, in this way.
tim dillon
Well, that's why you joined Morgan Wallen's metaverse.
joe rogan
Who?
tim dillon
Morgan Wallen.
The guy who screamed the N-word in his driveway, the country singer.
Morgan Wallen?
You don't know about this?
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
This was a while ago.
joe rogan
Do you know who he is?
You do?
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
Why'd he scream it?
tim dillon
I think he was kidding.
joe rogan
Oh.
tim dillon
But all of this stuff eventually, hopefully, increases the amount of freedom people have that everything isn't centralized, mainframe, like a controlled, top-down paramilitary thing.
Hopefully.
joe rogan
Hopefully.
unidentified
That's the hope.
tim dillon
But if not, LOL. If not, then it's going to be controlled by the Bitcoin people.
joe rogan
But something's got to be done to stop what's happening now, the trend of online censorship that's controlled by these massive tech companies.
And if something could disrupt that, if that could be done through blockchain, if that could be done through the metaverse, then I'm in.
Well, listen, I should be the first person that thinks outside the box, because if it wasn't for outside the box, I wouldn't have the number one podcast in the world, right?
If that happened out of nowhere.
tim dillon
I'm stunned that mine is bigger technically.
If you look at the numbers, but I don't want to interrupt you.
It is bigger.
It should be bigger.
joe rogan
How about that?
tim dillon
If you look at the numbers.
joe rogan
I find it more enjoyable than mine.
tim dillon
I'm surprised that you're not all over this stuff already, because you've always been the guy that's ahead of things by leaps and bounds.
joe rogan
It's because there's too many shady people that are offering it up to me.
tim dillon
Well, in the beginning of everything, there's a lot of shady people, but that, you know, things shake out, and those people, you know...
In the beginning of any Wild West environment where you don't have a ton of regulation and things aren't well established is going to attract a certain type of person.
Brilliant.
Some of them visionaries.
Some of them great.
Some of them criminals.
Some of them...
And eventually the cream rises to the top.
joe rogan
But I like doing so many things in the real world.
tim dillon
You're way too into the real world.
You're into lakes and rivers.
That shit sucks.
No one cares.
It's gay.
The reality is the metaverse is better.
People don't care about hunting deer in a volcano or whatever you do.
They're all 900 pounds and they're hooked up to tubes to just live.
Let them enjoy the metaverse.
You'll always get to take your dumb trips with your friends and you guys can run around.
joe rogan
I'm gonna stay.
I'm gonna put all my money in wood chips.
We're always going to need pellets to fuel the Traegers.
tim dillon
Yeah.
I mean, perhaps.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's just interesting stuff, man.
Maybe I just spent a few days too long in Miami.
joe rogan
You might have.
That's also possible.
That's possible.
You might need to just decompress it.
tim dillon
Every day we talked about this from breakfast through 3 a.m.
joe rogan
Yeah?
tim dillon
And I'm sober.
joe rogan
Really?
tim dillon
Yeah, I'm sober.
joe rogan
This is at Art Basel?
I know you are.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
But this is at Art Basel?
tim dillon
Yeah.
This is what people are talking about.
joe rogan
Should I go there next year?
tim dillon
It's really cool.
joe rogan
You did enjoy it?
tim dillon
I loved it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It was a really fun- It's fun!
joe rogan
Was it hard for you to move around?
Did people swarm you?
tim dillon
No, they didn't swarm me, but- You get swarmed, now I've seen it.
The Gary Vee party, they let me in.
joe rogan
Why'd they let you in the Gary Vee party?
tim dillon
Well, because one of the guys goes, oh, we love you, you're a legend, and they let me in.
joe rogan
Did Gary Vee find out you were there and kick you out?
tim dillon
No, I think he has a sense of humor.
joe rogan
Do you think so?
tim dillon
I think so.
joe rogan
But didn't he try to ban some of the things you did?
tim dillon
No, that was my conspiracy, thinking that he did.
I was walking around that party scared.
I had two of my friends with me.
And I was looking around.
I'm like, where is he?
Where's he going?
I thought he was going to descend from the ceiling.
I was a little scared.
But it was very sweet of his people.
I'm going to sit down with him because I'm curious about funding a movie in crypto.
So I want to sit down with him.
joe rogan
You're going to sit down with Gary Vee?
tim dillon
He's supposedly open to him.
joe rogan
Is he the guy to fund a movie and crypto with?
tim dillon
No, but he knows a lot about this world, about NFTs and stuff.
And I've made fun of some of the advice he's given because it's a little wacky.
joe rogan
Like what?
tim dillon
Well, he's just said, you know, crazy things.
Like, kindness is delicious.
And things like that, which...
Again, as a comedian, you'd have to make fun of some of the advice he's given, which is very vague.
joe rogan
Well, he puts out a lot of content.
tim dillon
Yeah, and some of it's good, great, but some of it's vague.
I've made fun of the things that are vague.
When he goes, you could talk about it or you could be about it, but I'd do both.
And you go, what?
So, things like that, I just don't...
There's probably a method to the madness there.
But he's a good father and a good guy and he's made money for his family.
He's not a bad guy.
joe rogan
Not a bad person.
tim dillon
He's not a bad guy.
I gotta go back into this.
You see how I'm kind of trying to...
I gotta angle back into this.
joe rogan
I see.
tim dillon
I gotta angle back in.
Right, right, right.
You see, it's like...
joe rogan
Well, you can have initial impressions about someone.
tim dillon
Well, no.
Some of what he said is, as a comedian, your job is to make fun of crazy stuff.
And when somebody does something that's crazy, you've got to make fun of it.
And, you know, even this NFT stuff, I make fun of it because a lot of it's silly, but I do think that the world has to change.
People have to stop going outside.
joe rogan
Forever?
tim dillon
For a while.
joe rogan
Until what?
tim dillon
Until they realize their needs are met on the metaverse.
joe rogan
Are we gonna just become integrated?
Is that the future?
tim dillon
Well, that's your whole thing, right?
You've always believed that.
joe rogan
But I was hoping it would take a little longer.
tim dillon
I know, but I'm ready now!
The rest of us are ready now!
joe rogan
I think we're gonna be cyborgs, for sure.
But do you think this happens first, then the cyborg part?
tim dillon
It's creepy and wild, but I do believe that this is, you know, unfortunately, or fortunately, this is the inevitable reality.
joe rogan
I don't know how to deal with that.
tim dillon
There's too much inertia moving it to that direction, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Young kids already are...
Their formative experiences, the things they value, are online-based.
You know?
The interactions they have, the friendships they've built, the communities they're a part of, the information they get...
The social arrangements they have, a lot of it is online.
A lot of the prized possessions they will own are online.
And that's where NFTs come in.
It's not only digital art, but it's, you know, it's kind of anything that people, the concept of digital ownership.
It's just like you owning that cool crystal skull.
Or, you know...
joe rogan
Brass.
tim dillon
Brass.
Or, you know, any of the things that you own that you go, this is a really cool thing that I own.
People are going to do that online.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
I should be more open to this, because obviously- It's crazy that I'm even convincing you of this.
You're not.
I'm just going along with it.
As soon as I leave, I'm going to go, fuck it out of your mind.
tim dillon
That's your- I'm telling you- I'm going to play with my dog.
You said I was wrong about Clubhouse, and now it's the biggest app in the world.
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
Yeah, you were definitely wrong about Clubhouse.
tim dillon
I was wrong about Clubhouse.
Tell me I didn't call that.
I was wrong about Clubhouse.
You called that.
joe rogan
You called that.
tim dillon
Andrew Schultz and you called Clubhouse.
joe rogan
Well, I was like, this is a bad podcast.
It's horrible.
tim dillon
Yeah, it's a podcast.
Somebody said it was a podcast with hecklers, and they were right.
It's horrible.
joe rogan
Well, once Brett Weinstein got kicked out of that room, and they kicked everybody out of that room that started, and they started calling everybody racist, I was like, whoa.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what is this?
tim dillon
But I think these ideas have a lot more merit than an app, obviously.
Like, I think this is just seemingly, you know...
joe rogan
Well, I think that Clubhouse was great for what it was at the time, which was, like, people got stuck.
tim dillon
But anyone you meet in real life from Clubhouse, it's, like, terrifying.
joe rogan
When you're, like, Leigh Lamar, like, she...
She's like the queen of Clubhouse.
tim dillon
Yeah, I guess.
joe rogan
Is she still on it?
tim dillon
I don't know.
I haven't been on it in months.
joe rogan
If you go to Clubhouse now, are there people there?
jamie vernon
I was actually just...
It's moved over to Twitter now, Twitter Spaces.
tim dillon
Yeah, Clubhouse is like dead.
joe rogan
They stole it?
jamie vernon
It's the same thing.
tim dillon
It's the same thing.
joe rogan
How is it the same thing?
You talk on Twitter?
You can just talk on Twitter.
Wait a minute, on Twitter Spaces you can have phone calls?
tim dillon
You can do the thing, but no one cares anymore.
joe rogan
Really?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So when did it move over to Twitter Spaces?
But how many followers does Leia have on the clubhouse?
She was up to a couple hundred thousand, right?
That was way bigger than any of her other platforms.
jamie vernon
She was in an NFT discussion.
I just started checking it out to be like, is this exactly a clubhouse?
tim dillon
Maybe I'm wrong.
It is bullshit.
joe rogan
Will there be comedy?
Will there be comedy in the metaverse?
tim dillon
Yes, there'll be everything.
Everything that's here, you'd have there.
All the entertainment, you know?
joe rogan
Bands?
tim dillon
Yeah, why not?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Something about watching really old rock stars dance on the stage for their last time.
I saw the Stones live in person.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It wouldn't be the same if I saw them in the metaverse.
tim dillon
To you, because you grew up without it.
The people that are growing up with only the metaverse will only know the metaverse.
joe rogan
Jesus, dude.
tim dillon
It's a heavy ship, but it's true.
joe rogan
I didn't expect this from you.
tim dillon
Well, you know, I'm a raconteur.
You're a salesperson.
joe rogan
A raconteur.
tim dillon
I'm trying to get a large sum of money from people so we can start a crypto island off the coast of Miami.
joe rogan
Off the coast of Miami?
There's islands?
tim dillon
Yeah, we're going to buy an island.
It's not going to be a pedophile run.
It's going to be run with crypto, which is even worse.
joe rogan
What if the Chinese invade your island?
tim dillon
They're not going to.
joe rogan
They might.
tim dillon
They're not going to invade my island.
joe rogan
What if they don't trust you?
tim dillon
They're going to trust me.
unidentified
Really?
tim dillon
It's going to be their island, too.
Because it's not gonna be real.
It's just going to be a location in the metaverse.
You keep thinking about invasions.
I'm more worried about digital attacks.
joe rogan
From aliens?
tim dillon
From anybody.
I mean, that's a good point.
Can you attack a metaverse?
joe rogan
You must be able to if it's on a server somewhere.
tim dillon
For sure.
And that's more what I'd worry about.
joe rogan
I'm worried about some crazy 13-year-old kid who's a super genius who's going to hack into it for a goof to impress his friends on TikTok.
tim dillon
I'm just saying that I am all in on this.
joe rogan
Jesus.
tim dillon
I'm all in on this.
jamie vernon
She's at $264,000.
joe rogan
That's where she's at?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
$9,000 on Twitter.
tim dillon
Yeah, that's...
Well, that's...
joe rogan
That's it.
That's what I'm saying.
tim dillon
That's it.
joe rogan
You see the difference?
jamie vernon
On her Twitter, it says, like, X Clubhouse something.
joe rogan
X Clubhouse?
jamie vernon
Well, I just...
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's no longer on Clubhouse?
jamie vernon
X Clubhouse icon.
joe rogan
Oh, she's not a Clubhouse icon anymore?
jamie vernon
I tried to open up the app and when you go to it, it says air loading stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, it's dead.
jamie vernon
It's pretty dead.
joe rogan
Did Clubhouse die?
tim dillon
Oh, it's dead.
joe rogan
Really?
tim dillon
I don't know if it's officially dead, but it's dead.
joe rogan
Duval and I were on the phone.
He was trying to convince me that he couldn't invest.
He goes, I would like a bigger position in it.
I want to spend more money on it.
And I'm listening to him.
I'm like, I thought he was smart.
Right.
His advice is so good.
He's one of my favorite advice guys ever because it's so clear and succinct.
So him telling me about Clubhouse, I'm like, do you have a podcast?
Because if you don't have a podcast, you should get one.
And then if you had one, I think you'd look at Clubhouse and go, what the fuck is this?
tim dillon
I was caught up, I think, in a pandemic frenzy, an insane thing where you were like, oh, this is fun and cool, but then it ended.
joe rogan
Well, when you and I were on that one time, and then the head guy from Clubhouse jumped on it with us, and then I was like, what's to stop people from uploading this?
They won't.
It was online five minutes later on YouTube.
I'm like, this is not a...
tim dillon
That's also the problem.
joe rogan
Yeah, people are uploading it.
tim dillon
Yep, it's a country of rats.
joe rogan
Fucking rats.
tim dillon
What are you going to do?
joe rogan
It is a country of rats.
tim dillon
It's a country of rats.
joe rogan
There's a lot of real benefit in being a rat today.
tim dillon
There's a huge benefit in it.
joe rogan
That didn't always used to be the case.
tim dillon
No.
We didn't like rats.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
But now everybody wants to, you know, everybody wants to shine a light on something.
So if they hear that you at a conversation clubhouse, they're like, and it gives them value as a human being to be the person that uploaded that.
They want to make a little money, you know, there's equity in it.
There's equity in being the rat.
joe rogan
But listen, is not your favorite thing going to a place, showing up at a sold-out theater, and rocking the house?
tim dillon
It's in the top ten.
joe rogan
What's number one?
tim dillon
No, I love comedy.
Comedy is great.
It's the best.
But doing a great podcast is good, too.
I'm telling you, I got into the pandemic.
I love live comedy.
But when I do a really good podcast, I go, that's really funny.
And I look at Ben and I go, that's really great.
And it's going to be seen by however many people.
And there's no cap.
Whereas a theater, there's a cap.
And the amazing thing of live experience is...
There's a finite amount of people in there and the show's gonna be different every time.
When you do something great digitally that you can put out and so many people are gonna enjoy it, I mean, I like that too.
joe rogan
But there's the feeling of being there live.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
That I love the most.
tim dillon
It's a shot of heroin.
But the podcast is a slow-release Vyvanse as opposed to a line of Adderall.
joe rogan
Do you have physical things?
Are you a guy, like if I went over to your house, do you have a lot of art?
No.
Do you have nothing?
tim dillon
Not a lot of things.
joe rogan
Do you have a TV, a nice TV? Yeah, shit like that, but I don't care.
You don't care?
tim dillon
No, I don't.
joe rogan
You don't own any jewelry or anything?
tim dillon
No, no, no.
joe rogan
No nice watches?
tim dillon
No, I bought a Range Rover.
I sold it.
Because of the supply chain, I sold it immediately.
joe rogan
The Range Rover you got rid of?
tim dillon
Yeah, I got rid of it because I got rid of it.
unidentified
So what are you driving?
tim dillon
Right now, I don't have a car.
I rented a Suburban.
joe rogan
You don't have a car?
You are all in on this.
tim dillon
I rented a Suburban.
joe rogan
Really?
tim dillon
I was on the road for three months.
I said, because of the supply chain right now, I can get rid of the Range Rover for almost what I paid.
unidentified
Really?
tim dillon
Just get rid of it.
You don't need it.
joe rogan
They break.
unidentified
Yeah, they break.
tim dillon
It's whatever.
joe rogan
Did Joyce break?
tim dillon
The seat broke, like one of the massage things in it.
joe rogan
It's usually electric stuff.
unidentified
Yeah!
tim dillon
It's always a problem.
And I was just like, I don't need a car that's that much money.
It's fine.
unidentified
Wow.
tim dillon
Let's get rid of it.
joe rogan
Interesting.
tim dillon
I'd rather have the money to buy property In the digital world.
joe rogan
Oh, if anybody wants to buy one, I think Ron Weitz is for sale, too.
I think he's selling one.
He goes, well, I got two of them.
I'm going to sell one.
tim dillon
I like experiences more than things.
joe rogan
Yes, that's why I like live comedy.
tim dillon
Yeah, I like live comedy, too.
But I think putting something out online and having people enjoy it from all over the world or whatever is cool.
joe rogan
It is cool, but both are cool.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Oh, they're both cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim dillon
For sure.
joe rogan
I just...
I don't know.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
But obviously I'm resisting it, whether it's logical or illogical.
There's a part of me that's going...
I don't like it.
tim dillon
Yeah.
I understand that you're an IRL guy.
You're a real life guy.
joe rogan
An IRL guy?
tim dillon
Yeah, but the reality is the future is digital.
And me and my friends in Miami are going to make a very good world.
So you should just...
Get involved now.
Get in on the ground floor.
joe rogan
Maybe I'll go with you 12 months from now.
tim dillon
Come to Art Basel.
joe rogan
I'll book some gigs around it.
tim dillon
Book a gig.
It'll be really fun.
You can talk to all these people.
joe rogan
What time is it?
tim dillon
When was it?
It was three weeks ago I went.
joe rogan
December.
Early December?
tim dillon
Yeah, you stayed the Four Seasons down there.
They got a great restaurant.
You go to all the things.
joe rogan
It's fun.
jamie vernon
In June, there's an Art Basel.
joe rogan
June.
tim dillon
Oh, there's another one?
Well, you know what?
You should come to the Crypto Conference.
I'm doing a comedy show at the Crypto Conference in Miami.
I did a live podcast last year with the Winklevoss twins and Jake Paul.
I'm doing a live comedy show.
There this year, plus a podcast.
joe rogan
So, a live comedy show with people?
tim dillon
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim dillon
No, there's people.
jamie vernon
The one in June's in Switzerland.
tim dillon
Yeah, December is difficult.
joe rogan
December 1st.
tim dillon
But you could come to that.
I mean, we can't afford you.
We were going to book people that we could afford, but...
joe rogan
Well, I don't have to get paid.
I'll just show up.
tim dillon
Well, you could do that.
We're going to go back.
It's a lot of fun.
joe rogan
And when you do your live show, are you going to a theater?
Like, what are you doing?
tim dillon
Oh yeah, it's a convention center.
That's what we did the podcast last year.
joe rogan
So you did the podcast there last year in front of a live audience?
Have you done that before?
tim dillon
No, this is the first time I did it.
I think it was the second or third time I did it.
I've done it three times.
joe rogan
Because generally you don't have guests in your podcast.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
But occasionally you do.
tim dillon
You feel a lot of pressure to be funny with the live crowd.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
So I think it makes it really fun in the moment, but to listen back to it, you actually would rather it not be live.
joe rogan
Especially if it's a conversation.
tim dillon
Live podcasts to listen to suck, but to be at them, they're very fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a different feel when you're listening to them.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
So you have like, we had Jake Paul come in who talked about fighting, boxing, NFTs.
joe rogan
He's been saying that he's suffering from slurring words and loss of memory already.
tim dillon
Yeah, that's not...
I mean, you know more about that than me.
unidentified
That's not great.
joe rogan
It doesn't take long.
It doesn't take long if you spar a lot.
tim dillon
You get a few shots.
joe rogan
He's fucking good, though.
tim dillon
He's really good.
joe rogan
Like, people want to pretend he's not because he's a YouTube guy.
The way he knocked out Tyron Woodley, that is fucking skillful.
tim dillon
No, he knows what he's doing.
joe rogan
He's got real fucking power.
tim dillon
And he works hard.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, all the fucking casuals are thinking it's fake.
tim dillon
Yeah, people were saying it was...
There was a TikTok saying that it was staged, but it's...
joe rogan
Yeah, they were saying there's a tell because he moves his hand and he's like saying, here comes the big right hand, I'm going to hit you.
tim dillon
Yeah, it's...
No, it's silly.
I think that...
But it was fun.
We had him and then the Winklevoss twins who were those crypto billionaires, the Facebook guys, and they were cool.
So we'll be back this year.
joe rogan
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you have become an integral part of that community.
tim dillon
Well, I'm not integral in the community at all.
Well, I did that little wallet trailer as a joke, that film.
joe rogan
What is that?
tim dillon
I did a trailer of a fake crypto movie of one of these movies.
joe rogan
Oh, I need to see this.
tim dillon
Was gonna be made...
You've never seen it?
unidentified
No.
tim dillon
It has like 3 million views.
joe rogan
Well, now it'll be 3 million and one.
tim dillon
Retweeted by everyone in the community.
In the crypto community.
joe rogan
Here we go.
tim dillon
It was like a...
This was the type of movie that Hollywood was gonna make about Bitcoin.
joe rogan
The following preview has been approved for appropriate audiences by Motion Picture Association.
tim dillon
I think we mentioned it before.
Tommy, I called you to talk about dad and money.
unidentified
Dad owns a hundred biddle coins and he's got them in a wallet on the internet.
The wallet's the internet?
What the fuck are you talking about?
If we get the password, there's millions of dollars in there.
Elon Musk started a new type of money.
tim dillon
Who is Elon Musk?
He was an astronaut, Tommy.
Listen, Ma, Dad was into something here.
joe rogan
Is that a real quote?
unidentified
Your father was a fucking clown.
tim dillon
We just gotta get that password.
unidentified
Why don't you try fucking Susan?
That was his girlfriend's name.
joe rogan
That's not a bad idea.
unidentified
That's his Tracy.
tim dillon
Come on.
unidentified
We never had nothing growing up, but now we can have something.
tim dillon
Christ!
Christ!
unidentified
Fuck you, you fucking loser!
What's the password?
tim dillon
What the fucking password?
Tommy, the central banks are fucking us!
unidentified
It would change our fucking lives, Tommy.
tim dillon
I have $17, Timmy.
That's not good.
unidentified
Yeah, big fucking surprise there.
Your father was a real class ass.
tim dillon
See, that's your quote.
It could've been okay, Tommy.
That's your quote.
joe rogan
I didn't know I quoted it.
jamie vernon
We're trying to get the password.
tim dillon
So that got a lot of attention.
The wallet.
joe rogan
How about that guy that's been going through a dump for eight years because there's a half a billion dollars in Bitcoin in that dump?
tim dillon
It's such a funny idea, right?
The idea that somebody could do something, one good thing in their life financially and then throw it away.
joe rogan
And now for eight years he's been combing this dump.
What if it's not even in the dump?
I don't even know it's in the dump.
tim dillon
It's probably this thing that this has happened to a few people.
A guy I know died and his wife was looking into it.
joe rogan
So if he's going through that dump, how the fuck is he going to find it?
tim dillon
That, I don't know.
I think he's just looking for...
joe rogan
But it's a giant landfill.
tim dillon
Yeah, I don't know what he's looking for.
joe rogan
A needle in a haystack.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
A literal needle in a haystack.
tim dillon
Well, if it's the kind of money that you would, right?
You'd spend the time doing it.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, there's got to be a lot of decomposition and moisture and the sheer biomass of all that garbage.
tim dillon
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
Who knows what the fuck happened to that hard drive by the time he gets to it.
tim dillon
Oh, yeah.
But again, if it's $500 million, you're going to fucking look.
joe rogan
For eight years, it's been looking.
tim dillon
You're gonna look.
Why not?
Well, that's the thing.
That's a very funny, interesting thing.
And I'm sure that stuff will change where it'll maybe be easy to get in them.
Maybe not.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know either.
I feel like one of those old men where the world has changed, and I'm like, what?
Email?
Yes.
The fuck is email?
tim dillon
You are kind of a little bit like that.
joe rogan
Send me a letter.
tim dillon
That's right.
Yeah.
But you can change.
The time is now.
You can change and you can start.
joe rogan
Or I just keep doing what I'm doing.
tim dillon
Maybe, but...
joe rogan
You don't think I should?
tim dillon
I think it's time to start your own coin.
joe rogan
What would I call it?
JRE coin?
tim dillon
Rogue coin?
joe rogan
Eh.
It's a little too on the nose.
tim dillon
It's not great.
joe rogan
JRE coin.
tim dillon
JRE coin.
Start a JRE coin.
joe rogan
And what do I do?
tim dillon
I think you just...
joe rogan
How many of them are there?
tim dillon
You get a bunch and then...
joe rogan
What does that mean?
tim dillon
Well, there's a set amount of them.
unidentified
How?
joe rogan
How do I set it?
tim dillon
Well, Jamie, you know.
Can't he just start a coin?
joe rogan
No, I want you to tell me because you don't know.
tim dillon
No, I've never started a coin.
Of course I don't know.
jamie vernon
I got 7,500 Bitcoin on a hard drive.
At 50k, that's $3 billion.
joe rogan
What?
Somebody lost that?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who's that?
A different guy?
No, no.
I thought his was only worth a half a million.
tim dillon
If he started a coin, he'd come up with, like, what, 50,000 coins?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Half a billion Bitcoin lost in the dump.
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
I was just digging through another one.
It says a UK man had 700, yeah, mistakenly put a hard drive with 7,500 bitcoins in the trash.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's way more, right?
jamie vernon
I mean...
joe rogan
That's 230, 280 billion?
280 million.
He needs permission from his local council to search a garbage dump he believes contains the lost hardware.
He doesn't have the fucking...
jamie vernon
That's the price though a year ago when it was way less.
joe rogan
But he doesn't have the permission.
jamie vernon
Oh, yeah, well, good luck.
So this has happened many times.
So part of the Bitcoin thing, you know, there's a finite amount, and we don't know how many of them are lost.
joe rogan
So they're lost forever.
The ones that are lost forever are lost forever.
tim dillon
Yeah, they're lost forever.
jamie vernon
Correct.
tim dillon
And that's what's good about it.
It's not fiat currency.
It can't keep getting printed every time we want to go to war or, you know, do a new program.
joe rogan
But if somebody grabs his hard drive, then they'll own his Bitcoin.
Like if somebody else combs through that dump, do they have to have the...
Yes?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they got to have the password and shit.
joe rogan
They have to have the password.
tim dillon
They have to get in.
jamie vernon
Then you only get—that's the joke of the thing.
There's like five chances to do it or three chances to do it or ten or whatever it is.
joe rogan
And what if a password or what if a hard drive burns in a fire?
Then the money's gone forever, like money burning in a fire.
jamie vernon
Depending on what you did, there might be a way to access it as long as you still have the password because it's on the chain, not on the hard drive.
Jesus Christ.
Depending on exactly what it is, I don't want to get too far into it.
tim dillon
These questions I don't think are productive or helpful.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
You just got to kind of get in here.
I mean, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
You know, when you tell someone to start working out, they don't go, what am I? Yeah, but you can hire a trainer and you can get to working out tomorrow.
tim dillon
And I have the trainers, crypto trainers in Miami for you.
We fly you right down.
We fly you right down.
joe rogan
This is me with a headache flying back.
tim dillon
I may or may not have promised people that you are starting a coin.
joe rogan
This is me flying back the same time next year going, fuck this.
I'm buying a log cabin on the top of a mountain.
tim dillon
Perhaps.
joe rogan
And I'm stockpiling food and bullets.
tim dillon
But there's no variance in the metaverse.
joe rogan
Oh.
What if you're sick while you're in your fucking house?
tim dillon
There's no Fauci in the metaverse.
There's no everything.
I'm telling you, no mandates in the metaverse, baby.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
How does the story end for Fauci?
He's 80 years old.
How much longer is he going to stay alive?
tim dillon
A documentary that they've already made about him.
How about the book?
joe rogan
The real Anthony Fauci is the number one book in America right now.
tim dillon
Well, that's the hit piece, right?
But then there'll be another version of that that's a glowing thing.
joe rogan
Well, I think he's one of the reasons why they took the thumbs down off of YouTube.
Which is hilarious, by the way.
tim dillon
It will end for him the way it ends for everyone who has a public profile, right?
I mean, it's like, no one cares.
joe rogan
Well, anyone who's got a public profile that's in charge of the vaccines and public health and may have started up gain-of-function research and led to this whole pandemic in the first place.
tim dillon
His significance will be hotly debated.
Like in terms of like how how good or bad he was people debate that there'll be the people that look at him like Jesus and You know there'll be the people that say he's the devil Yeah, but I'm saying like how does it end?
joe rogan
Like this this Robert Kennedy book.
Yeah is the number one book in the country I haven't read it.
It's on Ben's somebody sent it to us, but I haven't read it Ben has it again, but it's not on any New York Times bestseller list Right?
tim dillon
No.
joe rogan
Which is hilarious.
tim dillon
I guess not.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is it?
What's the New York Times bestseller list?
Like, if it's number one on Amazon, right?
That's what I heard.
Or it's the number one book in the country.
But is it on lists?
Is it on the bestseller list?
Or is it just number one?
No clue.
Number one, but off the list?
tim dillon
It might be number one on Amazon.
joe rogan
Okay.
Okay.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Amazon charts number one this week, the real Anthony Fauci.
It's got 3,610 ratings on Amazon with five stars.
The real Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the global war on democracy and public health, children's health defense, hardcover, November 16th.
So if this is the number one in America, what is the New York Times bestseller list?
Number one on Amazon and a New York Times, Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and publishes weekly national bestsellers.
So it's a New York Times bestseller?
Go to the New York Times bestsellers list for today.
What's the list?
Bestsellers list.
Okay, let's see what it is.
Here it is.
Number one.
Call us what we carry.
Okay, we're going to go to nonfiction.
It's not there.
It's not there at all.
tim dillon
Well, because they're going to say it's fiction.
joe rogan
Stanley Tucci.
Like, look at this.
jamie vernon
This is for next January 2nd, 2022, though, also.
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
Go back to what they're so far ahead.
joe rogan
But how can it be January 22nd?
jamie vernon
Pre-sales?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Okay, so.
jamie vernon
What week are we in this one?
joe rogan
That's good.
But where is it?
Are they hiding it?
Hardcover nonfiction.
Click on that and see what's the full list because that's only showing you five.
So is there a number when you go down when it shows up?
They're real Anthony Fauci.
Number seven.
Interesting.
So it is there.
tim dillon
It's there.
joe rogan
But I wonder why it's not number one on Amazon.
tim dillon
There's something with the New York Times list where they weigh certain sales differently.
joe rogan
Oh.
You mean they rig it?
tim dillon
Yeah.
Well, but it's weird.
It's like somebody's explaining it to me.
I forget.
I think when you do Barnes& Noble and stores like that, the sales count less than they do for independent bookstores.
joe rogan
They've done a very good job of making that guy seem like he's out of his fucking mind.
tim dillon
Who?
Robert Kennedy Jr. Yeah, I don't know much about him.
I know that he has an issue that I believe he believes he got from a vaccine or something, a disease.
joe rogan
Is that what he says?
unidentified
Is that?
tim dillon
I don't know.
joe rogan
I mean, I know he has an issue.
His voice is fucked.
tim dillon
So that's why I thought maybe that's why he was very passionate about vaccines.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Theo Vaughn had him on his podcast.
tim dillon
Oh, interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I didn't listen to it, though.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, I don't think he's against vaccines in general.
I don't want to be incorrect about this.
I think he believes that they cover up some of the side effects when they happen.
Not that they happen all the time, but some of the side effects when they do happen, particularly with children.
I think he believes they've covered them up.
tim dillon
Yeah, undoubtedly.
joe rogan
But this was all before the pandemic.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
Before the pandemic, you was thought of as an anti-vaxxer, back when anti-vaxxer still carried a negative connotation, but it didn't seem like you were destroying society.
Right, right.
It was like, oh, he's one of those.
tim dillon
It was like Jenny McCarthy or something.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Exactly.
tim dillon
And now it's like, you're a demon!
joe rogan
Yeah, because people would keep trying to get me to get him on.
I don't know.
I need to watch him talk.
Have you?
tim dillon
I've seen a few things, but not in depth.
joe rogan
It's wild, though, that this book is number one on Amazon.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's where I think most people buy books.
I believe that more than I believe any sort of curated list.
Oh, yeah.
tim dillon
I don't doubt it's a massive book.
joe rogan
You ever do a Google search?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then do a DuckDuckGo search, and you're like, huh.
Yeah.
Like, DuckDuckGo doesn't curate, so you get all the relevant information.
Sure.
Whereas with Google, they hide shit from you.
tim dillon
Well, they gatekeep.
joe rogan
Exactly.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Well, that's why you need, I think, alternatives to these things.
And I think alternatives to these things will be more online, like crypto-funded things that people can manage with a bunch of people as opposed to with a very small, tightly controlled group of people.
That's the hope.
joe rogan
Okay.
I believe you.
I'm interested.
Now, all I need from you is $10 million.
I feel like it's that scene in Fargo where you're trying to sell me the coating underneath the car.
tim dillon
I just need $3 million cash, and we're going to make all of our dreams.
joe rogan
Oh, cash.
But what do you mean?
I thought cash was no good.
tim dillon
Listen.
We need it first.
It's a small startup cost.
joe rogan
Oh, so it's like...
tim dillon
It's a small startup cost.
joe rogan
You need a little bit of Tinder to start the fire.
tim dillon
A little bit of the greenbacks.
A little bit of the old bloody imperialist money to get lifted off into hyperspace.
joe rogan
Are you concerned about the future?
tim dillon
No.
joe rogan
Not at all?
tim dillon
No, I don't have children.
joe rogan
Oh, if you did, you would?
tim dillon
Maybe.
I mean, I want people to live in a good world, but I mean, concerned about the future is terribly...
I don't think it's productive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
I mean, because there's so much I can do.
I treat people nicely.
I pay people well.
I respect people.
But in terms of...
Is anyone concerned about the future who's not trying to overthrow the government?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Well, wouldn't you try to overthrow the government if you were concerned about the future?
tim dillon
Well, you would, but then I don't want to run this shithole.
joe rogan
I don't want to run this shithole.
But who do you want to run the shithole?
Is there anybody that seems to stand out?
tim dillon
At this point, I'd rather...
I would rather...
This place be run by a consortium of criminals that are at least smart enough to be on the new wave of crime than I would these morons in Congress.
joe rogan
Well, I think they're all criminals anyway.
That's right.
The laws haven't been adjusted accordingly to make what they do illegal.
tim dillon
But as far as the future, I mean, it's like, I don't think you can spend an inordinate amount of time obsessing about things you can't control, right?
joe rogan
It's not wise.
tim dillon
We just had a pandemic.
There's going to be other shit.
There'll be natural disasters.
There'll be chaos.
There'll be all kinds of things that we can't control.
And I think we just have to accept that this experience that we're all having on Earth is, you know, fleeting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
So, you know, I don't know what this planet's going to look like in half a billion years, but I don't know.
Probably be done.
joe rogan
Well, at the beginning of the pandemic, you were, like, going to go on keto, and you were going to, like, try to clean your act up.
tim dillon
Well, I've cleaned my act up a little bit, but what does that do?
I mean, that's...
Listen...
You can still, as the great Donald J. Trump said, he was quoted as saying, you can worry about anything and then an earthquake kills 500 people in India.
What are you going to do?
You can't worry about it.
joe rogan
Is that what he said?
tim dillon
Yeah, something like that.
It's a great quote.
And he's right!
He's really right though.
You can't really, you can't obsess too much.
You should eat healthy and do things, but you can't obsess over anything.
joe rogan
His best quote was, everything woke turns to shit.
tim dillon
That was a good one.
joe rogan
That's the best quote.
tim dillon
He's not wrong.
joe rogan
That's a good one.
tim dillon
But, you know, he's also right about that, where it's like you can't obsess too much about the things you can't control.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you gotta kinda also keep your eye on the criminals.
You can't obsess too much on it, but you can't just stand back and let them pass wild, crazy fucking bills and not protest.
tim dillon
No, you gotta keep your eye on it.
joe rogan
What's happening here?
Nothing matters.
If you tell yourself it doesn't matter, like you do shows, you do this, you do that, and then you have an earthquake in India where 400,000 people get killed.
Trump told Larry King in that interview, honestly, it doesn't matter.
tim dillon
I mean, he's kind of a, you know, he has a point.
joe rogan
There are more times Trump said it doesn't matter when it involves things that very much do matter to the American people.
Well, this is HuffPost.
When he didn't care to meet with the President of China to reignite trade negotiations.
How do you know he didn't care to meet with them?
Maybe it was a strategy, you know?
It says in June, as the US trade negotiations with China remained stalled, Trump appeared uninterested in meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping at the G20 summit in Japan.
Trump said it doesn't matter whether Xi attended the G20. If he shows up, good, Trump said on the show.
If he doesn't, in the meantime, we're taking in billions of dollars a month.
Eventually, they're going to make a deal because they're going to have to, he continued.
Look, they're paying hundreds of billions of dollars.
Is he right?
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
See, one of the things that disturbs me is that his...
This wild sort of bombastic behavior disguises the fact that he's correct about some things.
tim dillon
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Where it's hard for people to see it because they don't want it to be correct.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Like the way he dealt with China, was that the right way to deal with China?
tim dillon
Perhaps.
joe rogan
Perhaps.
tim dillon
Yeah.
I mean, they did respond with a bioweapon that fucked us for two years.
I will say that perhaps that wasn't, you know?
joe rogan
Do you think maybe that's what happened?
tim dillon
I mean, it could be.
I just think that, like...
joe rogan
What are the odds?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you had to, like, look at a percentage, what are the odds that that's what happened?
tim dillon
Relatively high?
joe rogan
40?
tim dillon
I don't know if it's that high, but...
joe rogan
30?
tim dillon
I don't know.
I think, well, you made a good point.
You can't let the criminals just run amok.
But the way to do that is to try to amass some type of power base.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Right?
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
And if people can do that with money, with influence, whatever they do, you've got to check people.
You've got to check people at the top.
And the only way seemingly to do that is to develop your own means of exchange, to develop your own means of...
Getting your message out or being able to connect with like-minded people outside of the You know monopolized forms of social media So all those things will evolve and you know how they evolved they seem somewhat essential and that that that's gonna be a way to you know Kind of key and then I guess run for something if you really care, right?
So but that I mean who the fuck or find someone who's really good and Find someone who's really good for 10 months and then they become the criminals.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That is what happens.
tim dillon
That's exactly what happens.
joe rogan
They get them.
They get inside and they compromise you.
tim dillon
That's right.
And they compromise you.
Or they don't even compromise you.
They just go, you like your job?
Well, we'll fund your opponent and destroy you if you don't do exactly what we want.
And you get caught up in that system and This isn't designed to work.
The things that have changed life more have been cell phones and things.
They're not political solutions, really.
If you look at the technological advancements, those are the things that have really changed people's lives.
You can go on the internet.
You can make a living.
joe rogan
The problem is people have taken control of these technological solutions for communication, like Twitter or Facebook, and then they've compromised them and made them lean into their ideology.
tim dillon
And that's human nature and that'll probably always happen.
That's why you gotta keep coming up with new things.
You gotta keep evolving and keep figuring out new ways to do those things.
joe rogan
I think you're right.
I'm reluctant to agree, but I think you're right.
All this metaverse, NFT, crypto shit, I think you're probably right about that too.
I don't know exactly how to approach it.
It seems like it's going to require an enormous amount of time that I don't have to even think about it.
Why do I have the inclination to continue it after this conversation?
After this conversation is over, we're going to go to the green room, I'm going to have a bag of chips, and I'm going to go, what the fuck?
Have a cup of coffee.
tim dillon
Here's the easiest way to do it right now.
Connect me with your bank.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Tim Dillon, you're the shit.
tim dillon
Thank you so much.
joe rogan
I appreciate you very much.
tim dillon
Great to be here.
joe rogan
Tell everybody where you're going to be.
You're still touring, right?
You've got fat antibodies.
Your antibodies are out of control.
tim dillon
I'm good, yeah, but they shut us down in Toronto.
We'll be back out.
We'll be back out in a few, probably in a month.
But they shut...
Toronto cut capacity.
joe rogan
I should probably say this because I haven't yet.
My 420 show that's sold out in Vancouver, I don't think that's happening.
I don't think I can even get into the country.
I'm not vaccinated.
I'm not going to get vaccinated.
I have antibodies.
It doesn't make any sense.
I don't think I can go.
And even if I do go, I don't trust that...
That Vancouver's not going to follow suit along with the way Toronto did it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where they cut capacity to 50%.
tim dillon
Yeah, so we're just waiting right now.
We're going to put some more dates, you know.
joe rogan
See, Tim lives.
Oh, you're doing American Comedy Company?
tim dillon
Yeah, we're just doing that.
unidentified
Working out some new shit.
tim dillon
And then, unfortunately, the UK is going to be fucked, too.
joe rogan
What made you decide to do American Comedy Company instead of doing a theater down there?
tim dillon
Well, we had those dates on the books for a while.
So we just had those dates on the books for a while.
joe rogan
It's a great place, though.
tim dillon
Yeah, it's fun.
It's not the worst place to be for a few days.
joe rogan
No, San Diego is a great fucking place to be for a few days.
It's my favorite place in California now.
I love it.
Because they're still relatively free.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Although they have a wacky mayor now.
Oh, yeah.
tim dillon
I don't know.
joe rogan
I think they got rid of one mayor and got a wacky mayor.
tim dillon
Dude, Palm Springs is still the best place.
joe rogan
Is it?
tim dillon
Well, it's just 1940s.
joe rogan
Really?
I've never been.
tim dillon
The desert out there is cool, man.
It's just chill.
People just don't care about anything.
joe rogan
But after you yell at those lesbians about their Airbnb, are you allowed back?
tim dillon
Well, that's Joshua Tree.
They don't live in Palm Springs.
They're animals.
They live in the disgusting desert.
joe rogan
Did you ever make up with those?
tim dillon
No, I'm off Airbnb for the rest of my life.
Ever?
But I don't care because the Airbnb sucks and everyone's going back to hotels.
Everyone's going back to hotels.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
What happened?
tim dillon
Well, because all the services are back.
The room service, the gym, the cool things, the restaurants.
Nobody wants to do their own dishes anymore.
Airbnb shorted.
It's over.
It's dying.
And that's all I have to say about Airbnb.
It's going to be done soon.
joe rogan
Okay.
tim dillon
It's going to be done.
It's stupid.
The idea of it is stupid.
Stupid.
joe rogan
Follow Tim Dillon on all social media platforms.
Listen to his podcast.
One of the best podcasts on earth.
tim dillon
Very nice of you to say.
joe rogan
It's bigger than mine.
tim dillon
It is bigger than Joe's by the numbers.
joe rogan
By all metrics.
tim dillon
Because here's the thing.
Yours is not even on YouTube.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
But if yours gets bigger, they'll put it on YouTube.
Mine's on YouTube.
joe rogan
It's big.
I just have clips on YouTube.
All right.
unidentified
Good night.
joe rogan
Do they censor you on YouTube at all?
tim dillon
Oh, I'm sure.
joe rogan
Have they ever pulled one of your episodes?
tim dillon
We don't get monetized.
They don't give us money.
joe rogan
What happened there?
tim dillon
They haven't demonetized the channel, but we get partial monetization often and then sometimes no monetization.
joe rogan
They punish you for your wrong think.
tim dillon
Well, they punish me for the things I say.
joe rogan
What are you saying that's so offensive?
tim dillon
I agree with you.
I'm with you.
I'm on your side, but these people are out of control.
You know?
joe rogan
Goodbye, everybody.
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