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Joe Rogan Experience #1637 - Action Bronson
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joe rogan
Patrick Bronson, ladies and gentlemen.
Dude, first of all, before we even get started, congratulations.
I just want to congratulate you publicly.
What you've done is amazing.
It's amazing.
I've been following you on Instagram.
It's super inspiring, man.
It touches me, man.
It really does.
I love when someone gets a positive path going in their life and sticks with it and you see real progress.
And you're so dedicated, man.
It's really inspiring.
It's beautiful.
action bronson
Thank you, man.
Listen, it was a long time coming.
It's just, I'm happy that it happened now.
Because if it didn't happen, it would have been something else.
I would have been in a grave.
Or somewhere else.
Who the hell knows where they would have put me.
joe rogan
When did you start?
action bronson
I've been fat my whole life.
I've been thinking about losing weight for a long time, for probably about 30 years.
joe rogan
But when did you start losing weight?
action bronson
Last March.
joe rogan
Last March.
So right around the pandemic.
action bronson
Literally.
Right when it hit, my brand new baby and my wife, they were going to go to Columbia to show the child.
You know, you have to show the child to the family.
And it was around March 10th.
We get to the airport.
They wouldn't let my dog get on the plane because the air conditioning didn't work in the galley or whatever that is.
So we turned right back around and went home.
And that's the day shit hit the fan.
I was supposed to go on tour.
A week right after that, everything done.
I knew it was all going to be done.
I was talking to my agent.
He was like, yeah, this shit's going to be fine.
Don't worry, they're going to still do the show in Hawaii.
I was like, nah, watch.
This shit's going to be fucking done.
So bottom line is...
joe rogan
Why did you think everything was going to get shut down?
action bronson
I don't know.
I had a feeling.
I had a feeling that this was just bigger than what it was.
It just seemed fishy.
Just seemed fishy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
So, pretty much, I mean, to get the dog onto the plane, we had to put her on a scale, because she was a little overweight.
joe rogan
What's overweight for a dog?
action bronson
I'm not really sure.
I think she looks great.
joe rogan
What is overweight for a dog, though?
How do they decide that?
Like, I used to have a dog that was 140 pounds.
Is he overweight?
action bronson
I don't think so.
It's just jacked.
That's all I think.
If you're at a certain weight, you're just jacked.
This dog is an English setter.
Supposed to have a little waist.
And listen...
She lost it a little bit.
She lost herself.
She's living in Brooklyn now.
She's not back where she's from.
joe rogan
Exercising.
action bronson
It's different.
She's eating different foods.
Her metabolism changed.
So I don't blame her.
I dealt with it.
joe rogan
You fed her.
action bronson
I feel her.
And then I started losing weight because of her because we both got on the scale and I was like, what the fuck is going on?
joe rogan
What was the highest?
action bronson
380 something.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
action bronson
It was despicable.
I didn't look it though.
I looked about 350. A fucking round ball, a fucking meatball.
I was a fucking meatball.
joe rogan
What was your health like?
What did it feel like walking around like that?
Because this is the thing, man.
People love to talk about fat shaming.
And I know it's not good to make people feel bad.
action bronson
You have to.
You have to shame me.
I was shamed into this for sure.
joe rogan
It's unfortunate that you have to make people feel bad to start getting them to change, but sometimes, whether it's a person doing that to you or you just looking in the mirror and you're feeling bad, that feeling is just reality.
That's what that feeling is.
Like, you can't fat shame a skinny...
You can't fat shame Jamie.
action bronson
No.
joe rogan
He's not fat, right?
So if you said, hey, Jamie, you're fat, like, it doesn't work.
action bronson
It doesn't mean anything to me.
joe rogan
It only means something when it's real, and it's an indulgence thing.
It's not...
It's not a thing that you can't control.
It's a hard thing to control.
It's a hard thing to bounce back from, and that's what I'm most impressed with you.
You've really bounced back.
You've lost 130 fucking pounds, man.
And we had a good workout today.
We went over to the Honor Gym.
Shout out to my man, John Wolfe.
John Wolfe's the master.
action bronson
I love him.
joe rogan
How good is he?
action bronson
I mean, I've watched him, and now that I've met him, it's like all the pieces came together today for me.
joe rogan
He's one of the most knowledgeable trainers I've ever worked with in my life.
He's amazing.
And it's not just like meathead stuff.
It's all about mobility and flexibility.
action bronson
There's nothing meathead.
joe rogan
Nothing.
action bronson
I mean, you can obviously lift a lot of weight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
He showed us he could do the 106 overhead press with like nothing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
But it ain't about that.
It's about being able to...
It's fluidity.
It's about using your body and using your muscles in a functional manner.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Not just...
joe rogan
He's all about longevity and he's all about range of motion.
His whole thing is about having you have the full mobility of your body.
It's all these flexibility things that we did, the hip things that we did, all that stuff.
And it's all to strengthen the joints, stabilize your shoulders, stabilize all your joints and He's just so good.
So amazing.
action bronson
The pre-workout that we did.
I was soaked.
I was soaked before we started.
joe rogan
It was great.
action bronson
It was unbelievable.
joe rogan
You're very strong though, man.
You're really strong.
It was interesting to watch you do it.
I can see over this past year, you've gotten your body to a really good place where you haven't just lost weight by dieting.
You've been lifting weights.
You've been exercising and pushing sleds.
Watch your Instagram, man.
You're doing some wild shit.
action bronson
For sure.
These are the things that I always wanted to do.
I always knew I could do this.
I played football in high school and I actually, I excelled in practice.
Like, I liked doing that shit.
I like drills.
I like having an aim.
The game, yeah, it's fun, but I like the practice stuff.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
action bronson
And I started losing weight by myself in my house, literally during the pandemic, just eating different.
My wife, she was shaming me.
Yes, she was, because we have a brand new child.
She said, what the fuck are you doing?
You want to be around here for our baby?
You want to take yourself away from us?
joe rogan
Right.
action bronson
And that shit hit.
joe rogan
That's real.
action bronson
It hit hard.
joe rogan
That's a real thing.
action bronson
And not only that, like, I love life.
There's no doubt about it.
I've been going so fast for the past 10 years that I haven't really enjoyed myself.
So this forced stoppage allowed me to really reassess my happiness.
And I've regained everything, you know?
It's not just fucking...
Work, work, work.
Next thing, next thing, next thing.
Of course, I'm an artist and my mind is always all over the place.
I'm always thinking about something, you know?
But this slowed me down.
It allowed me to spend every moment with my brand new child, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
It was something that I didn't know I needed, but I needed that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
I needed it.
And to regain my health in this manner, man, like you said, I wasn't...
I don't want to just lose weight.
People could get the surgeries and all that shit.
That ain't for me.
I'm a worker.
I like hard work.
joe rogan
The surgery can help people, but it also messes you up.
One of the things that happens is it diminishes your ability to absorb food.
You can't have as much food, and it's harder for you to absorb nutrients.
action bronson
I would never do that.
That was just never in my cards.
It was never for me.
joe rogan
Good for you.
action bronson
Yeah, hell no, because I knew I did this to myself.
I have to fix it, and I'm dedicated.
Like, I was talking to my boy, like me and CeCe Sabathia were friends, and I was talking to him for a while.
We would just text back and forth, because he was a fat bastard too.
And he changed his shit up.
And we would just talk about how we want to be fucking jacked.
We just want to be, we want to get, you know, strong and shit.
And he put me on to my trainer that I was working with, Dave Palladino.
And Dave is kind of, you know, he's like an old school meathead from the Jersey Shore.
And I fucking love that.
So we clicked, yeah.
Because it could have met somebody else and it wouldn't have clicked.
joe rogan
Right.
action bronson
You know, like I've worked out with other people, but it just wasn't...
I almost don't want to let him down, you know?
unidentified
Right.
action bronson
Like he's a fucker, like he's into Sopranos or some shit.
I swear.
Maybe it's in my mind, but I have to...
But it works that way.
joe rogan
Right, I know what you mean.
action bronson
Yeah, he was showing me all...
He's like fucking Joey Diaz, but jacked.
I swear, that's who he is.
That's what I was thinking about.
I was like, yo, that's who this fucking guy is.
Exactly him.
He has the stories of the shore.
He used to bounce all the clubs with the fucking fanny pack and the fucking...
I don't want to mention what else, but you know.
Listen.
He put me onto different types of training.
He didn't just start me off with meathead stuff.
We did the sleds.
We did the torturous shit.
The skier.
The fucking...
All that.
The stepper.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
The fucking...
action bronson
That shit is torture.
But I love it.
joe rogan
That's awesome, man.
It's so beautiful.
It's one of the things that makes me most happy in life.
I love people succeeding.
I really do.
It makes me so happy.
I don't know why.
You know, I think when I was a kid, when I was real young, I started teaching Taekwondo when I was probably like 16. 16-ish, somewhere around then, when I started teaching, and I really got into it because it helped me get better, but I also had a few students that went from white belt, and they graduated and got higher belts, and I took them to tournaments, and I had them win tournaments, and my God, it made me so happy.
action bronson
That feeling is unbelievable.
joe rogan
More happy than myself, because with myself, I would have conflicted feelings.
Hurting people is a weird thing.
It gives you conflicted feelings.
You're happy, but you also feel real weird, because that could have been you, and you see this dude writhing in agony.
It's very strange.
But when someone else that you train goes and succeeds, it feels good.
It feels really good.
When you watch them improve...
Maybe that's where the seed got planted.
But I fucking love when people succeed.
I love it.
It makes me so happy, man.
action bronson
It's because you're that type of guy.
You know, you're not a fucking hater.
There's haters out there that don't want to see anyone succeed.
They just want all the success for themselves.
joe rogan
No, I'm the opposite of a hater.
action bronson
Exactly.
joe rogan
I'm a lover.
action bronson
Me too.
joe rogan
I seem like a hater sometimes because I say hater shit, but I just do it because it's funny.
Yeah.
action bronson
You're amusing yourself.
joe rogan
Yes.
My soul is positive.
I'm very much a person who wants to see people do well.
It means a lot to me.
It really does.
When I see someone like you that I know how hard it is to lose 130 pounds.
I mean, I've never had to, but I could only imagine.
It's fucking hard.
It's fucking hard.
And it's a long road.
It's not an easy road.
It's not like just hold your breath for an hour.
No, it's fucking...
It's a long road.
It's a grind.
And it's hard to see success because it comes in these little tiny little steps.
You get these little tiny increments.
But I've watched those tiny increments of yours on Instagram.
I've watched it.
And I was like, look at him go.
Look at him go.
And then I saw you shrinking.
I'm like, look at him go.
And it's every fucking day, man.
You know one of my favorite videos of yours?
You had this crazy workout and then you cooked steaks at the park.
I loved it.
action bronson
That's my favorite shit.
unidentified
Reward yourself.
action bronson
That's my life.
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
You know, I always have the barbecue in the trunk of the Cherokee.
Always.
The Jeep Grand Cherokee is my car.
I've been driving that fucking thing forever.
I love that car.
You got the Yeti thing in the back.
Pack all the stuff that I need.
I got the Japanese hardwood charcoal.
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
I got my torch to light it.
And I got my little Weber grill.
I'm good to go.
Right after the workout in the parking lot or wherever, I just pull up in the park.
Because I don't just do one workout.
I got to do a couple.
I just have this energy now that it's not enough to just do an hour of some training.
I need to go out and do more things during the day.
I have to go on the roof and swing the Bulgarian bag.
I have to play paddle ball.
I have to hit the park, do calisthenics and stuff like that.
joe rogan
There you go.
action bronson
Look at me.
joe rogan
You're just staying active, always moving.
action bronson
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
What do you have the steak covered in?
What's on the outside of that?
action bronson
I covered the top in garlic.
It's just a nice pulverized garlic and some sea salt.
And I just let them cook slowly while I played.
Every so often I would go.
That's my boy Pierre.
We've been playing handball for fucking 25 years.
joe rogan
Pierre's got a strong mustache game.
action bronson
He really does.
He really does.
joe rogan
I love it.
Is that your dog?
action bronson
No, that's not mine.
That's his.
joe rogan
So when you cook these steaks, are you cooking by feel?
How do you know when these are done?
action bronson
Yeah, cooking is all feel.
All this stuff is feel.
Once I came off the court and I saw that they were crusted perfectly, I just kept turning the grill every once in a while.
Oof.
joe rogan
That's a fat steak, too.
Look at that.
Oh, my goodness.
action bronson
Those are my favorite.
Look at that.
unidentified
Oh, look at that.
action bronson
Look at how perfectly that's cooked.
joe rogan
Oh, that's amazing.
action bronson
And that's my favorite steak right there.
I love it.
And you douse it with extra virgin olive oil, of course.
joe rogan
Look at the salt.
action bronson
You know, I hate to say plug things, but that's my olive oil right there.
I do olive oil collaborations.
joe rogan
Plug the shit out of your olive oil.
Where's one get it?
action bronson
There's gonna be one coming out soon from Tuscany.
joe rogan
Is it called Fuck That's Delicious Olive Oil?
action bronson
No, it's just a collaboration with Grove and Vine, Times Action Bronson.
Fuck isn't really like a...
You can't really fucking...
joe rogan
Sell it?
action bronson
Yeah.
You can't sell fuck.
joe rogan
Could you put like an asterisk over the U? You can, but it still doesn't really work like that.
unidentified
No?
action bronson
It's just...
It's fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Isn't that weird?
action bronson
I think it's ridiculous.
joe rogan
We're all adults here.
Can't we say Fuck That's Delicious on a bottle of olive oil?
Yeah.
People love that.
action bronson
People love it.
I want it to be on everything.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Underwear.
I used to wear big dog underwear.
Remember big dogs?
joe rogan
Joey Diaz used to wear that shit.
action bronson
I would fucking put Fuck That's Delicious right on the crotch.
Of any type of underwear there is.
And we have a winner.
joe rogan
Well, the beautiful thing about you doing Fuck That's Delicious while you're on this fitness journey is you're showing people it can be both.
action bronson
100%.
joe rogan
You can eat well.
You can eat well.
And you can have a great fucking time and get fit and you feel better.
Like life feels better.
unidentified
1 million percent.
joe rogan
Like I have never been really obese.
But doesn't life feel better when you're healthy now?
action bronson
My bro, it's a million times.
I had fucking issues that I would be embarrassed to say right now.
It's, you know, those things where there's like little nuances of life that just, what the fuck?
How did I get to this point?
It's not good.
Everything is fucking working a thousand percent.
Like, I never had an issue with my dick.
But now, it's fucking unbelievable.
Yeah, it's like, it's unbelievable.
Fucking, it's like Jaws.
When I'm coming towards my wife, it's like, she's fucking running away from me.
joe rogan
Well, all that exercise, and then you're doing so much weight training.
It's got to jack up your testosterone.
action bronson
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
And watching what you did today, the only way you were able to do that workout today is if you've been doing that for a long time.
We did a difficult workout.
For sure.
Especially that shoulder plex complex with the rows and the squats and the cleans and all that stuff that John had us doing.
That was real work.
action bronson
For sure.
And, you know, the dude Andrew from Onnit...
Shout out to Andrew Craig.
Andrew Craig was at a book signing of mine a couple years ago, and he saw me working out and shit like that, and he just sent me the Macy's.
He sent me a bunch of stuff.
That dude fucking got me literally on it.
Literally, with the clubs, the Bulgarian...
And that's really all I use.
My studio is filled with that shit.
I go to the gym for the things I can't do, like...
Chest work and other stuff like that, you know?
But I do a lot of kettlebells and a lot of swinging of the mace and Indian clubs at the studio and on the roof of the studio.
joe rogan
That's awesome, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
That's my favorite stuff to do.
The mobility stuff.
unidentified
Right.
action bronson
I love feeling static strong, you know?
Squats and fucking deadlifts and all that stuff.
But this is equally as satisfactory.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love kettlebells because of that.
Because you're moving.
You're doing a lot of things.
I love like kettlebell flows.
action bronson
It looks cool.
joe rogan
Clean, press, lunge, squat, all that stuff.
Yeah, it's fun.
action bronson
That shit looks cool.
joe rogan
It does look cool.
That dude who was doing the Maces.
What was that dude's name?
action bronson
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
The mace guy.
Hold on a second.
Let me find it real quick.
That dude who was doing the maces at the gym was a beast, man.
action bronson
He was killing it.
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
I mean, when you could flow with those things, it's like dancing.
It's like salsa.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't have it written.
Shit.
He's very good.
action bronson
Shout out to him, though.
joe rogan
Whoever that dude is, he was a beast.
action bronson
The guy with the mace flow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
John Wolfe is a beast with that shit, too.
He's with the clubs and the maces and all that stuff.
He shocked me.
action bronson
I like John Wolfe a lot.
joe rogan
Well, it's that what he's doing, the great thing about it is it's applicable.
Like the strength that you get from that is really good for martial arts.
It's really good for jujitsu in particular because it's you're forcing to use your body all as one unit, you know, all of this stuff.
And it also was like, it increases your longevity because it increases.
You're stabilizing joints and you're getting range of motion strength.
All kinds of cool shit you can do with that kind of strength.
action bronson
That's why it drew me.
All these new apparatus drew me.
Because I can't fucking do traditional things because of my little impingement in my shoulder.
But all these different flow moves and swings, I just love it.
joe rogan
Well, your shoulder mobility is, you know, there's a little bit of an impingement, but it's pretty good.
Like, I saw you were pressing 65 pounds with that left arm.
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
You just need to get something done to that.
Go get, find out what the fuck's going on with it, and like I was telling you...
action bronson
Should I find out before or just go for it and then see?
joe rogan
You should have an MRI. Yeah?
Yeah, it sucks.
You're going to find out what's wrong.
There's probably a bunch of shit going on in there.
But from a guy who had a full-length rotator cuff tear and it was healed completely by stem cells...
And what we can do here in America is nothing compared to what they can do in Colombia and what they can do in Panama.
Like Dr. Neil Reardon, who's been on the podcast before, he runs a clinic down in Panama.
I sent my mom down there twice and did wonders for her.
And I've had some other friends, a lot of fighters I know have gone down there.
And a lot of fighters are going to that bio-accelerator place that you talk to.
See, the thing is about America...
There's good and bad, right?
The regulation's good because it keeps people from robbing people and ripping people off, right?
It keeps people from doing things that aren't completely safe, but it also keeps people from doing things that they know are effective.
And people have had massive results over in Colombia and in Panama because they have an accelerated program.
unidentified
I think...
joe rogan
I think there's one in Tijuana, too.
I think they're doing it in Tijuana now, too.
A lot of guys are going down from San Diego and just driving over there and getting it done there, too.
The thing is with TJ, bro, he's fucking lots of crazy shit going on in TJ. Yeah, but it's my friend Ed Clay, who's an American, who's running it down.
action bronson
I know my boy got a fucking...
joe rogan
What happened?
unidentified
What happened?
action bronson
He got an Achilles tendon surgery in fucking Tijuana, and he's fucked up right now.
joe rogan
Can't walk?
action bronson
They botched him.
They botched the Achilles.
unidentified
Oh, no.
action bronson
So, I don't...
I mean, I've seen horrible things go down in TJ before.
I couldn't imagine putting fucking some sort of health into me there.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would go there for...
action bronson
You'd go there for sin.
joe rogan
I'd go there for braces.
action bronson
True.
They do good teeth.
They do, they do.
It's true.
joe rogan
I think it depends on who you're going to, you know?
It's always that.
Tijuana is a sketchy place right now, you know?
Anything on the border is just, it's great and it's terrible at the same time.
There's a lot going on.
action bronson
It's heavy.
joe rogan
Are you vaping now and no smoking weed?
action bronson
It's just that I have this vape.
unidentified
Right.
action bronson
I didn't want to bring the big glass contraptions on here, fucking torch up.
This is just for on the go.
joe rogan
Are you vaporizing now and not smoking blunts anymore?
action bronson
Yeah, I only vaporize hash.
The purest hash around, I'm vaporizing it all over.
joe rogan
Last time you were here, you smoked a preposterous amount of weed.
Because I took pictures of the ashtray and put it on Instagram, and people were like, that was just him?
That was just him.
I didn't keep up with you.
action bronson
I was an animal.
The thing is, I'm animalistic with hash.
joe rogan
Oh yeah?
action bronson
I mean, when you look at a High Times magazine and you see all those little, you know, the little furry molecules, that's what I'm smoking.
I'm not smoking the rest of the actual green.
We're just smoking the furry molecules.
joe rogan
Just the THC crystals?
action bronson
Yeah, just those globules, those oil glands.
joe rogan
You know how they have those boxes that kind of sift?
They have those little nets in it, and dudes would put the weed in, and then the bottom of it, you'd get the shake, and it was just pure THC. Old school.
Oh my god, and you put that shit in the pipe and go straight to the moon, like this, like a rubber band.
action bronson
My boy had a jar of Keef back in the day.
And we were just doing like key bumps.
Just fucking smoking it off the key.
unidentified
Wow.
action bronson
My lord.
But hash is on a whole nother level.
You know, like when you take a dab of some really, really, really good hash, It's next level.
joe rogan
It is next level.
action bronson
It's so much.
I love it so much.
I love the whole idea of having the really nice glass pipe, your torch.
It's very personal.
It's very...
What's the word I'm looking for?
joe rogan
Intimate?
action bronson
Yeah, it's not only intimate, but it's...
that other word.
unidentified
LAUGHTER What's the other word?
What's the other word?
action bronson
Ritualistic.
joe rogan
Ah, Ritualistic.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there's power in rituals, right?
action bronson
For sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
Are you kidding me?
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's something about doing something with purpose and intent.
Something that seems kind of sacred.
action bronson
Something so small as to something I remember right now, a little ritual.
Every time I walked in the building of my mother's house in Queens, I had to drag my foot across, you know, like the fucking, that little piece.
joe rogan
The archway?
action bronson
Yeah, the little piece that they put on the bottom of the door.
I always had to drag my foot on it.
I don't know why.
joe rogan
Like an OCD thing?
action bronson
Every time.
joe rogan
Some people have weird things where they have to like touch their head a couple times when they walk through a door.
action bronson
I don't have anything else like that.
It's just that one thing.
joe rogan
That's good, though.
unidentified
I think.
joe rogan
If you have one...
action bronson
One is alright.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fine.
action bronson
Not another one.
If another one comes, then I'm fucked.
joe rogan
I remember reading about people that they would wash their hands, and then they'd get in their head, and they'd have to go wash their hands again, and then they'd go back.
It's weird.
action bronson
He fucking rubbed the skin off his hands.
unidentified
Oh.
action bronson
He had to wear gloves for weeks.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
A friend of mine looked at a house once, and they were looking at the house like, oh, this is a nice house, pretty nice house.
And then they opened up one of the cabinets, one of the closets, and it was filled with Purell.
Filled.
action bronson
Oh, my fucking God.
joe rogan
I mean, like, every shelf was Purell, and they were like, what the fuck?
And they're like, yeah, the guy who lives here is very OCD. He cleans his hands off.
And they're like, where are you buying this house?
unidentified
Nah.
joe rogan
They're like, this house has got weird vibes.
action bronson
I don't like bad vibes.
unidentified
Spirits?
action bronson
Yeah, I mean, I'm into spirits, but not bad vibes.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think...
action bronson
Because you can't control the spirits.
They're just around.
joe rogan
I think if you have those kind of vibes in a place, you gotta...
I don't know if you can really...
They say sage.
You burn sage and you have like a ritual and you get rid of it.
action bronson
Bullshit.
unidentified
Bullshit.
action bronson
It's bullshit.
Sage fucking does not smell good.
I'd rather burn, I don't know, they got some other shit that they had in Mexico in a bucket.
And they were walking around with it and it was fucking crazy.
It was taking all the flies away.
That's better!
joe rogan
Do you know why they've always done that with sage?
When they burn sage?
Sage is salvia divinorum.
action bronson
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
Yeah, which a lot of people are not aware of.
Like, sage is...
It's a type of...
Salvia is a type of sage.
So salvia, obviously, for people who don't know, is a super potent psychedelic.
They missed it when they had that Schedule I act of 1970 where they basically made everything illegal.
They missed sage.
Somehow or another.
You used to be able to buy salvia in a head shop.
Like, in places where weed was completely illegal, you could buy a bag of this shit and go to another dimension.
action bronson
You could definitely buy Salvia on Jamaica Avenue right now.
joe rogan
You still buy it everywhere?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's wild.
It's so strong.
The people who don't know, Salvia is a super potent psychedelic.
Like, out of this world, you disappear, you go to another place.
action bronson
It's heavy for a while.
It's like your fucking mind, everything explodes.
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
But then comes back like T2000 where...
Comes back and melts and it's like melting metal that broke and then it comes back together.
joe rogan
My friend Ari did it.
He did it on a podcast.
And when he did it, he said he had a complete different life that he lived for several months.
And it only lasted for 10 minutes.
But he had several months of life.
He made friends.
He had relationships.
He broke up.
Lost jobs.
The whole thing.
Like, lived lives.
unidentified
Fuck me.
joe rogan
And then came out of it and realized he was only gone for 10 minutes.
He was like, what the fuck?
And he's talked about it on other podcasts since, but it was like one of the, he said, literally one of the craziest moments of his life.
And they filmed him the entire time he was doing it.
unidentified
Well, that's good.
action bronson
That's good, because you know sometimes when you trip out, you try to remember it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
But it's never, you're not really, you're kind of making it up.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
action bronson
You're kind of making it up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Because you're so in the moment, it wouldn't say...
Like, I could try and tell people my DMT... I've smoked it too many times to remember one spec...
There's one specific, a couple of them, but...
Bro, you know what I mean.
joe rogan
I do know what you mean.
action bronson
It's a never-ending story, like the big fucking white dog.
That's what it is.
You're on the dog, flying through the air.
joe rogan
I remember very specific moments, but when you're talking about a 15-minute trip, I might remember 30 seconds.
Yeah.
action bronson
Specific moments.
I remember standing like this, breaking through fucking boards of life and fucking portals.
joe rogan
Oh, interesting.
Interesting.
action bronson
Breaking through boards.
Just breaking through different stages of things.
joe rogan
Oh, that makes sense for you.
That's like you had limitations that you'd put on yourself.
And you're breaking through those limitations.
And then you actually are doing that now.
That's real.
action bronson
A lot of things I've spoken into existence.
It was just in a rap that I never even, you know, put out.
But I had mentioned that I had had a drink with Ahmad Rashad at the bar.
And then years later, I was at some Yankees game and randomly Ahmad Rashad was at the fucking bar.
I know it might be silly, but I fucking made that happen.
And that's how I feel the power of the mind.
If I made Ahmad Rashad appear at the fucking bar after I mentioned it four years prior...
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Anything is possible.
joe rogan
I think there's weird windows into possibilities that occasionally we access.
And I think that's like when you have a real tight relationship with a good friend, and then, like, they text you when you're thinking about them.
You're thinking about calling them, and, you know, you have a close relationship, like your brothers.
And then you get an email, or you get a phone call, or you get a text, and you're like, ah, he was thinking about me, too.
action bronson
Connections.
joe rogan
Like, we're connected.
There's some...
Like, when you hear...
Quantum mechanics and quantum physicists talk about quantum states, like spooky action at a distance, where these molecules, these atoms, there's something that happens to these quantum particles where in one area of the world it will...
There's some sort of a reaction with something that's completely, like, miles and miles apart, and they're somehow or another connected, and they know because they can measure it, but they don't understand the connection.
They don't know what's going on.
And we are made of all these things, right?
And so if you can observe this at the quantum level, which is this incredibly small level that you literally can't see with your eyes, if you can measure this and know this, then how...
Why wouldn't we have some strange or why wouldn't it be possible that we have some strange connection with each other, some strange connection with life that maybe doesn't totally make sense and you can't teach it in school, you can't put it on a scale, you can't measure it with a ruler, but there's something there and we can access it occasionally.
Occasionally it comes into focus, whether it comes into focus through a dream or through inspiration or when you achieve a higher state, like a higher state of life.
There's connections that people have with each other that are different.
There's levels to those connections.
The level of connection I have to my wife is very different than anybody else I've ever known.
The level of connection I have with close friends is very different.
There's levels of connection.
There's something happening there.
What is it?
It's not just intimacy.
It's not just getting to know each other.
There's a bond that people have.
action bronson
It's literally in nature.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
It's embedded in you and that other person that you guys are meant to attract.
joe rogan
There's something there.
action bronson
There is something, because I don't know if you...
I'm sure you've done this, but like the regression, like past regressions and stuff and past lifetimes and shit like that, where you...
My wife talks to some fucking Colombian woman, some Espiritu fucking Colombian, who the hell knows, and she's, you know, passed on knowledge about how we've known each other for fucking hundred lifetimes, literally, in all kinds of different forms.
And now this is the lifetime where it's finally meant to really connect and fully bloom.
We've waited a hundred lifetimes to bloom.
And this is the one, according to...
joe rogan
That lady.
I would say that if I was that lady, I would say that just because I want your money.
action bronson
I don't think she's paying her.
She's not paying her.
joe rogan
Not at all?
action bronson
It's like a stage.
It's like an internship where she's fucking learning spiritual shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think there's people that know things.
There's people that get a feeling.
The problem is, I think there's a lot of people that don't.
action bronson
Listen, I know it's all about the fucking money too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
I always reference Steve Martin, Leap of Faith.
You know that movie?
unidentified
I don't remember.
action bronson
He's a big tent revival guy.
He's like a fucking pastor in the big tent revivals.
And they're just bullshitting, they're feeding him things and he touches the woman and she starts fucking freaking out.
It's my favorite shit.
Listen, it's all about the bread.
They lie to you in your face all day long.
joe rogan
There's a lot of that, but it's also a lot of people that want to believe.
action bronson
They need to believe.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot going on.
There's many things going on.
action bronson
That's like when you reach for Christ's hand, when you reach for Allah's hand.
It's the same shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want to change your life and you seek a higher power to give you that power to do that.
Give it meaning, right?
People in 12-step programs, right, they assign meaning to a higher power.
They decide that you are helpless, and then you assign this power to have control over your life.
You give in to this idea that you can't control yourself, but then the Lord is going to just fucking...
That's a big part of...
But you know another big part of 12-step programs that a lot of people don't know?
The guy who started it, you know, there's always a friend of Bill's, the whole deal.
That guy, Bill, whoever the fuck he is, that guy was on acid.
Like, his whole thing was doing acid.
action bronson
He was fucking with people.
He was fucking with us, bro.
joe rogan
No, the original 12-step program, like, the guy, like, did a lot of experimentation with LSD to try to help him get through alcoholism.
action bronson
And these were the steps he took.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know exactly.
action bronson
I'm not going to tell someone to do something if I've never done it.
joe rogan
Right.
action bronson
I tell some people to do things.
joe rogan
If someone's on meth, I'm like, hey bro, probably shouldn't do meth.
action bronson
Well, in that case, I can't say that because if I tried it and it's probably popping, I'd probably be a meth addict.
I'd definitely be a meth addict.
joe rogan
What if you found out that's how you lose the extra 30?
action bronson
Nah, I would...
unidentified
Shit.
action bronson
But then I'd lose my teeth and I'd fucking look like John Leguizamo in Spun.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, that's right.
action bronson
Nah, I can't do all that shit.
joe rogan
No one comes out on the other end of meth like, I'm glad I did it.
action bronson
But everyone I talked to, they said they had a good time with it.
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
Right?
No one downplays the meth.
joe rogan
No.
action bronson
They just downplay what happened to them after the meth.
joe rogan
Right.
action bronson
But while they were on it, that shit was fucking amazing.
joe rogan
Well, it's an amphetamine.
Amphetamines give people a wild rush.
It elevates you, you know?
But it's like I used to build computers.
I used to go to the computer store and buy a motherboard and buy a hard drive.
action bronson
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, it's not that hard.
action bronson
And I know my boy, this fucking kid that lived in the building next to me, Seth, used to do that also.
joe rogan
And one thing that people used to do back in the day, you'd buy like a cheap processor and you would overclock it.
So you would like, you'd put a big heat sink on it, a fan on it to cool it off, and they would take like, back in the day, it was like, this was before, you know, what was it like, Celeron processors, Jamie?
You remember those days?
action bronson
Puttin' fuckin' turbo.
joe rogan
Pentium processor.
action bronson
Pentium 1?
joe rogan
But no, but the Celerons were like the cheap ones and a lot of guys that ran gig...
What was the speed though?
I'm trying to remember the speed.
Before, it was like 400 megahertz back in the day.
It was like a big deal.
And guys would get like a 300 Celeron and they would overclock it to 400 megahertz.
But the thing is, it doesn't last.
It's like, and I think that's the same with meth.
It's like when you're redlining your engine, you could do it for a little while, but it doesn't do it for that long.
action bronson
You'll crash.
joe rogan
It's gonna crash.
action bronson
Like a fucking computer.
joe rogan
Like meth heads.
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they all eventually just like...
You're like this all the time.
And you start hearing voices.
You start seeing things.
But I bet the first few is pretty fucking good.
action bronson
It's exciting.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you get a lot of shit done.
action bronson
But drugs are fucked up in general, man.
Like, I just want to say rest in peace to fucking DMX. That's a sad one.
Rest in motherfucking paradise, man.
joe rogan
Did you see the video when they were getting his body out of the hospital?
action bronson
Nah.
joe rogan
It's pretty amazing.
The fans outside were playing his music.
While they're driving the car with his body out of the hospital, I believe it was in White Plains, it's wild.
action bronson
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Just rabid, filling the streets.
action bronson
I wish I was able to tell him this story I'm about to tell you, because this is fucking real deal, and it's like, he means so much to my family, it's crazy.
It sounds nuts.
Not only did I grow up on fucking DMX, I love DMX, but...
My wife was in fucking labor for 18 fucking hours and she had the doula there.
I told you they're on some spiritual shit.
A motherfucking Peruvian flute playing for 17 fucking hours.
Straight!
The Peruvian flute music.
What does that sound like?
They came into my sixth grade class and we made a fucking flute.
17 hours in the Andes.
Bro.
She starts freaking out.
I'm like, yo, listen, we have an hour left, or we're gonna have to do a C-section or whatever, and no fucking chance.
So, turn the fucking Peruvian flute music off, and I put fucking DMX on.
Stop!
Drop!
That motherfucker jumped out of her!
I swear on everything!
It's on camera!
It's on film!
As soon as the Peruvian flute music stopped, DMX came on, he fucking heard the dog, and he came out, he just jumped out.
I just- It's amazing.
It hurts my fucking heart that I was never able to tell him that.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
action bronson
Like, man, that's, it's like the crazy, it's the fucking, the doctor was going nuts, he was Because everyone was just fucking sick of that shit.
joe rogan
They were probably so tired, right?
action bronson
I wanted to jump out of the window from the music.
I was laid out on the floor, farting.
Yeah, I farted.
Because I had like, I had hospital chips.
unidentified
Oh no, hospital chips.
action bronson
But you know, we shut down Flushing Hospital for us.
Nice little area.
It was beautiful.
joe rogan
And so it just changed the vibe of the room.
action bronson
Man, he fucking popped right out on everything.
Like, it's on camera.
I can't make that up.
Nah, that would have been a good one.
But he came out on the hit, stop, drop, shut him down, open up shop.
joe rogan
He had some fucking jams.
He had some fucking jams.
action bronson
Nothing but heat.
joe rogan
And what a voice.
action bronson
It's the man.
joe rogan
What a voice he had.
action bronson
It's the dog.
joe rogan
Fucking drugs, man.
action bronson
It's fucked up.
joe rogan
It's fucked up.
You think about all the great artists that have lost their lives because of drugs.
I mean, it's astonishing.
You go over it.
All the musicians.
So many musicians.
action bronson
But artists are touched, man.
They're the ones that are the most vulnerable to drugs.
They're touched.
There's a lot of pressures and lots of...
Self.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
You pretty much put it on yourself when you become...
Because some people don't know how to handle it.
You know, I've always been told that I'm good at it.
Like, I'm good at being who I am because I'm me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
I don't fucking get nervous with things.
I don't overthink.
I'm just...
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You got a good vibe.
action bronson
I'm just vibed out.
I'm not worried about all these things.
Putting a fucking chain on my neck doesn't excite me.
Putting fucking fancy cars don't excite me.
I like having the things I like.
But I'm fucking, I'm here.
I'm with everybody.
I'm down here.
joe rogan
You're good being you.
action bronson
I'm fucking happy being who I am, man.
It's just like the most happy place I am.
joe rogan
It's very complicated for people also because a lot of people are judging you.
And so you get confused as to who you are.
action bronson
All day.
joe rogan
All day.
That's what happens with a lot of famous folks.
A lot of entertainers.
You get so many voices.
So if you're a person like DMX, you literally have millions of people talking about you.
Good and bad, both ways, and, oh, he's terrible, he's the shit, he's a god, he's a bum, he's a loser, he's my favorite.
action bronson
It's confusing.
joe rogan
And you just, if you get this You let these people influence who you are as a person.
If you let that in, if you take that in, and then you think about the pressures of fame and maintaining fame.
And one of the things about the rap world in particular, at least until recently, is that it was a very short-lived fame.
And there was something about guys when they got to a certain age where nobody wanted to hear from them anymore.
action bronson
You're right.
joe rogan
There was a lot of them like that.
Now it's changing.
Like now, you know, you're seeing like Snoop is the most, he has more longevity and more relevance.
action bronson
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
He's the best at it.
action bronson
He's so good at being him.
joe rogan
He's so good at being him.
action bronson
That's it.
That's what people love him for being him and he's him to the fucking max.
joe rogan
Everyone knows who Snoop is.
He knows who Snoop is.
He was the best part.
Other than Jake Paul's knockout punch, he was the best part of that whole pay-per-view thing.
He was just listening to him talk and watching him do commentary.
And then when him and Too Short and who was the other dude with him?
There was four dudes.
action bronson
Oh, they made like a new West Side connection?
joe rogan
Yeah, they call it Mount Westmore.
action bronson
Oh, yeah.
I think it's Ice Cube E40. That's it.
joe rogan
That's it.
That's it.
It was great.
action bronson
Snoop and Too Short.
joe rogan
I love Ice Cube, too.
action bronson
I mean, they're all amazing.
joe rogan
But Snoop is...
action bronson
Man, Ice Cube's old shit?
unidentified
Yes.
action bronson
Oh, my fucking God.
That's unfuckwittable music.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Like, that music is...
joe rogan
He played Today Was A Good Day.
That was part of the performance.
He played that.
It's still good.
It's Still relevant.
action bronson
To this day.
joe rogan
I mean, you gotta go back.
Ice Cube's from fucking 88, man.
He popped in 88. That's crazy.
He was famous in 1988. Just stop and think about that, dude.
That's 33 fucking years ago.
That's nuts.
action bronson
Six years old.
joe rogan
That's nuts, right?
And he's still doing it.
action bronson
Man.
joe rogan
And when he goes up and he starts singing, today was a good day, everybody gets excited.
In the early days of rap, that was not the case.
In the early days of rap when, you know, unless you're a legend, unless you're like one of those, like a Snoop type dude, it's hard for guys to maintain.
There was something about guys getting in their 40s.
People did not want to hear them rap anymore.
action bronson
No.
Yeah, there's definitely a time limit on rap.
joe rogan
I think that's changing.
action bronson
But people like Jay-Z, who we don't even know his age, he's like a fucking Cuban baseball player.
We don't know.
He's like fucking Yoel Romero.
We don't know what age he is.
He's just, he's Jay-Z. And he can literally rap forever and it'll be relevant.
Like for me, Cool G Rap could rap forever and I would love it.
I would love to hear it any day.
joe rogan
I'm so glad you brought up Cool G Rap.
action bronson
He's my favorite of all time.
I love that man.
I've sat in a room with him while he rapped, and I rapped at the same time.
It was like mind-blowing shit.
I'm doing a song with G-Rap.
unidentified
Crazy.
joe rogan
He's another guy.
I was a big fan of his in like 91. When was he around?
He was like 91, 92?
action bronson
I remember I was in, I don't know, fifth grade, and he was playing basketball in the park by my house, and I had him sign a napkin.
unidentified
He was in a suit playing basketball.
action bronson
We're in a fucking suit.
joe rogan
A lot of people forgot about him, and that's unfortunate, because Cool G Raps is a fucking amazing talent.
That song, Cock Blockin', to this day, that's one of my favorite songs.
action bronson
That's a great song.
I mean, that was from the XXX era.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
action bronson
The talk like sex.
Man, the rappers now, it's not that it's...
It's gotten much younger.
It's 13, 12-year-olds.
That's who likes this music.
And then there's like tears, you know?
There's like...
There's shit for everybody, is what I'm saying.
There's tears, but the thing that's the most overwhelming is the young boys.
Young rap, that's all they do.
joe rogan
Well, you know what I love right now?
I love what Lil Nas X is doing.
I love how he's freaking everybody out and getting under their skin.
His fucking latest video.
action bronson
He's like Lady Gaga.
It's just shock.
It's like shocking shit.
unidentified
Well, when he gave Satan a laugh dance...
joe rogan
Because here's what's happening, man.
My kids, when they were young, when Old Town Road came out, in their fucking grammar school, they were singing it.
They were all singing it in school.
Like, kids loved that song.
So here's this dude who's this young, wild, gay dude who's singing this song with Billy Ray Cyrus and it becomes this gigantic fucking hit.
action bronson
Billy Ray Cyrus looks fucking crazy.
joe rogan
And then the next thing he comes out with, he's selling sneakers with human blood in them.
unidentified
He's giving Satan a lap dance.
action bronson
Oh my god.
It's just crazy that I even know about these things.
unidentified
Everybody got so confused.
joe rogan
I was cheering.
unidentified
I was like, yes!
Yes!
joe rogan
I love it!
He was like, look, look, look.
We gotta flip the switch on this thing.
We can't have this.
We can't have this.
I can't be just singing for little kids for the rest of my life.
We gotta get crazy.
unidentified
Fucking Lil Nas X, bro.
action bronson
It's fucking unbelievable.
joe rogan
And, you know, it's the courage that guy had to do that.
He had to have a lot of people in his ear telling him, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
Listen, we've got a big thing going on here, Lil Nas X. We've got a really, really important product.
action bronson
Your brand.
joe rogan
We've got to work on your brand.
We've got to work on your marketing.
We're elevating your brand.
unidentified
Come on.
You could be a huge, huge, huge act deep in your 30s.
And then maybe when you get older and you want to do some crazy shit like if Satan a lap dance, Maybe you do it then.
action bronson
But not now.
unidentified
Lil Nas X. This is not the time.
action bronson
The voice that you're putting on as the executive is exactly the fuck of why I've been hearing this shit for so long, man.
Fucking cockamamie people.
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
Well, those cockamamie people will get in your life if you need them.
action bronson
Yeah, no, there's no doubt about it.
They were in my life for a little bit, and then they left.
And that's the way it is.
joe rogan
They were in my life for a little bit, too.
action bronson
Yeah, you leave, you come, you leave.
Please go.
Don't come.
Don't come.
joe rogan
You get it from their perspective.
They're not of this world.
They're not of the world of you and I, of performance.
They don't understand what it's like to go on stage and get wild.
They don't get it.
action bronson
No.
joe rogan
They don't know how to write wild shit.
You write wild shit.
action bronson
Yeah, they have no clue.
joe rogan
If you ran your lyrics by them and go, hey, come here.
This is what I'm thinking of saying.
action bronson
Sometimes I read that shit back and what the fuck is wrong with me?
joe rogan
Exactly.
action bronson
Like, it's all about trying to make myself laugh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
You just think of the craziest shit, man.
joe rogan
That's really what makes- Or make people like me laugh.
action bronson
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's the thing.
action bronson
If I'm laughing, you're laughing.
joe rogan
Yes, exactly.
Look, I write for wild people.
And I hope other people go along with it, too.
But I'm writing for wild people.
Like, I want my friends- I want Joey Diaz to laugh.
I want my friends to laugh.
action bronson
That's what it's always been about.
I want my fucking craziest friend to accept and love what I just said.
joe rogan
Dude, when you're a comic and you hear in the back of the room like Joey Diaz, when he's dying, you're like, yes!
And he'll grab you and fucking shake you out.
You crazy motherfucker, what'd you do to me?
What'd you do to me, Joe Rogan?
But that's, you know, executives not gonna, like if you read, I go, hey, this is what I'm thinking about saying tonight.
Don't say that!
action bronson
Oh, they killed me.
joe rogan
What if someone from casting's in the room?
action bronson
They'll fucking have a shit.
joe rogan
Listen, listen, listen.
You have a legitimate, intelligent career going on here.
There's no reason to sacrifice this.
Don't be a saboteur.
Don't be self-sabotaging.
Don't do it.
action bronson
I've definitely been talked off the ledge several times, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
By who, though?
joe rogan
By who?
action bronson
A couple different people.
Some people could get through to me.
It depends the mood I'm in, who's going to get through to me.
It could be the fucking doorman.
That gets through to me that day.
Like, yo, he said some real shit.
You know, you're right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
It could be anybody.
It depends.
But yeah, I try to fucking keep it light.
joe rogan
Well, you know, the thing about creativity is It's not a flat line, right?
It's like one of the polygraphs.
unidentified
You can't just do that.
action bronson
Yeah, you can't fucking put your feet...
It's all over.
It's all over.
What's going on?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Whatever it is, it's a wild thing.
These ideas are coursing through your head and you're writing them down.
Then you're trying to figure out the best way to do them and how to say them in a way that it's going to make people pop.
action bronson
Like our brains are working right now.
We're both talking.
I'm thinking about...
Lyrics right now.
I just thought about some lyrics.
I just thought about some painting technique I was gonna do.
I just thought about Valentina's.
This shit is crazy the way we're able to work our brains and kind of just Just grab shit from all over and just inspiration this.
You can fucking work it.
I'm thinking about some fucking sex I had back in the day.
You know what I mean?
It's all inspiration.
It's craziness.
joe rogan
Paul Mooney used to tell me back in the day, he used to say to everybody, but I remember him telling to me, if you want to write, go get entertained.
He's like, when I want to create, I get entertained.
He's like, I go to a movie, I'll see a concert, I'll see somebody, I'll go and get entertained.
action bronson
I love live entertainment, period.
joe rogan
Me too.
Yeah, me too.
I particularly love things that I don't do.
Like, I love music.
You know, I just love...
I don't play an instrument, so when I see a dude can jam on a guitar, I love it.
I love it.
I just love watching.
action bronson
I like that too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
I like being in the mist or just like, uh, uh.
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
Just emceeing while these dudes fucking play sick like jazz and shit.
unidentified
Did you ever listen to the brand new Heavies?
action bronson
Yes.
joe rogan
When they had that thing where they did one with Cool G Rap.
action bronson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Brand New Heavies did a rap album, a collaboration album with multiple artists.
action bronson
And they had G-Rap on it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Heavy Rhyme Experience, I believe it is.
I've never heard that.
That's it right there.
Bro is one of my favorite CDs.
I had it.
This is how old I am.
action bronson
Ed OG shouts to him.
That's the A's.
Gangstar.
Look at that.
Gangstar.
It's getting hectic.
Some of the best rappers, rap groups, and rappers ever.
joe rogan
Bro, that Gangstar.
action bronson
Main source, bro.
Come on.
This is next level shit.
Grand Poobah was one of my favorites.
joe rogan
State of Yo.
But that It's Getting Hectic by Gangstar.
I'm a giant Gangstar fan.
action bronson
Gangstar's phenomenal.
joe rogan
Phenomenal.
action bronson
Guru was one of the most underrated rappers.
joe rogan
He's amazing.
action bronson
His voice, everything was next level.
joe rogan
When he died, that was very sad for me.
That was a bummer.
action bronson
No one knew.
I didn't know he was sick.
No, no one knew.
I guess he hit it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
And he didn't want to tell anybody.
joe rogan
Well, it's like Chadwick Boseman, you know, when he died too.
The Black Panther dude.
Yeah.
No one knew it was coming.
action bronson
Yeah, that's fucking crazy too, right?
joe rogan
He had gotten sick and he was all skinny and everybody was making fun of him for being skinny.
They didn't realize the guy was dying.
That's fucked up.
action bronson
People get made fun of so goddamn much on the internet.
It's fucked up.
joe rogan
It's natural.
action bronson
It is natural, but it's fucked up because...
joe rogan
You know what the problem is?
action bronson
You feel bad sometimes for the person.
joe rogan
This is the problem.
The problem is it's in print and everybody can read it, but it's what people normally did.
Louis C.K. said this to me, and it made a lot of sense.
It resonated.
I'm like, oh, okay, that makes sense.
Because it's just talking.
Like, people talk shit.
They say things.
People have always, oh, fuck that dude.
You know?
Oh, that guy's an asshole.
Or that guy's a this.
action bronson
But it just goes past you because it's worse.
joe rogan
And it just, in and out, and it goes away.
But when they write it down, and then other people read it, and then people retweet it, and then other people, they add on to it, and then you got thousands of people that are saying the same thing.
And it doesn't necessarily mean anything more than when someone would just say it when no one's around.
action bronson
It's true.
joe rogan
But that's why, you know, the Four Agreements.
Do you know that, you ever heard of that book?
I think they made it five, right?
Pull up that book, because it's a really interesting book.
And I'm going to say this as a person who's very flawed, and I don't always follow these Four Agreements.
But there's real value and there's real wisdom in this.
It's Don Miguel Ruiz, and the four agreements are, agreement number one, be impeccable with your word.
So that means, like, don't say, fuck that dude.
I mean, sometimes I'll say fuck that dude just because it's funny.
It's a funny thing to say, like someone who's amazing.
I'll be like, fuck that dude.
action bronson
Of course.
joe rogan
That guy sucks.
Of course.
But it's just because- Cheeky.
But everybody knows it's not real.
I'm being silly.
Like, you know I love them.
action bronson
Yep.
joe rogan
Or don't take anything personally.
That's agreement number two.
It's hard to not take things personally.
action bronson
That's tough.
joe rogan
But if you can do that, you will be way better off.
You'll be way better off.
Number three agreement, don't make assumptions.
Don't assume things.
These are the valuable agreements in order to live a more harmonious life.
And number four, this is my favorite, because this one I do.
Always do your best.
Now, I wouldn't say I do this always, but I, most of the time, do my best.
I mean, I do my best as much as I can.
I try to honor those agreements.
I think, and there's a new, what is the fifth agreement?
action bronson
I always try to do my best, but the other ones are fucking hard.
joe rogan
The fifth agreement takes us to a deeper level of awareness of the power of the self and returns to the authenticity we're born with.
The fifth agreement takes...
What is it?
unidentified
By...
joe rogan
No, there's a fifth one of those agreements.
I figured it would.
Does it just say...
But...
The fifth one.
Be skeptical, but learn to listen.
unidentified
Beautiful.
action bronson
These are good.
These are good.
joe rogan
They're amazing.
They're amazing.
I like how he revised it.
action bronson
It's hard to apply.
You have to be conscious.
You have to be conscious if you're doing it and not vocalize.
You can maybe think it, but if you're thinking it, are you not applying it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
So what the fuck?
joe rogan
But listen to this.
If we put this out there and you and I say we are going to try to live our lives by those four agreements, and the fifth agreement too, If we're going to live our lives by those agreements, and we send that message out to all you people out there that are listening, you should try to do it too.
No one's telling you to do it, but it'll help you.
It'll be better for you.
action bronson
From what I'm looking at, it looks good.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'll be better for everybody.
action bronson
It seems reasonable to me.
joe rogan
I'm going to put that out there.
People, call me out on it if I don't do it.
Unless I'm joking.
Don't get mad at me for joking, because I joke a lot.
action bronson
There's got to be a line.
joe rogan
But be impeccable with your word is very valuable.
Always do your best is very valuable.
Those things, always doing your best is very valuable.
It's so valuable.
If you can live like that...
Man, you'll be on a better course.
You'll be on a better path.
And other people will see it.
And it'll inspire them to be on a better path.
And that's what life's all about.
action bronson
Well, I can speak to this.
I can speak to this in the sense that I never followed through with anything like a long time ago.
And now all I do is try to do my best in everything and put my fucking best foot forward.
Don't do anything that my heart's not in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Because I never give it my all.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
And it's not fair to what I'm doing, you know, to that specific thing.
There's been situations where I did it for the wrong reason, like just doing it for money or doing...
It's not good.
It always turns out wrong.
It never feels good here.
joe rogan
Yeah, but sometimes you have to make those mistakes in order to understand what's the right path.
Sometimes you got to go down the wrong path and go, oh, okay, this is not for me.
action bronson
Well, I realize that, you know, and I try to live by those principles.
But a lot of things for me is I have to stop over-committing to things.
I have an issue with over-committing.
I say yes to something when I really don't want to do it, and then the last second I just cancel.
joe rogan
I know what that's about.
action bronson
Bro, I'm a fucking asshole with that.
I can't help it.
I've done it.
It's been 10 years now.
joe rogan
Do you say yes when you're high, though?
Is that what it is?
action bronson
I'm always high.
There's never a situation where it's not high.
This is what I do.
joe rogan
I used to have those problems with my manager before I said no to everything.
Now I say no to everything, but I used to be like, did I say yes to that?
And she'd be like, yeah, you said yes to that.
I'm like, fuck.
action bronson
Yeah, exactly.
I forgot.
That's what I do.
I forget.
I'm like, oh, fuck.
It's this much coming up this week.
Like, it's this week.
joe rogan
I'm like, can I get out of this?
Can't get out of it.
action bronson
There's always a way out.
You just have to fucking deal with the consequences.
joe rogan
But then you feel bad.
action bronson
I always feel bad.
joe rogan
Then you're not impeccable with your word.
action bronson
There it is.
That's the problem.
All these things are connected to each other.
And that's the problem right there for me.
And I'm trying to work on that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
So I initially say no.
And then I have them ask me three more times just to make sure so I could really dig in to what it is that they're asking of me.
joe rogan
Well, at a certain point in time, if you say yes to everything, then you're not saying...
You don't have any time for your life.
Your life is gone.
action bronson
But think about how many things you said no to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
You know, I've said no to more shows than I've done, I think.
Oh, for sure.
You say no.
You have to say no.
After a while.
Yeah, after a while you say no.
joe rogan
Yeah.
After a while it gets to the point where you have to say no.
You know, because...
Also, you don't know what you're getting into.
You say yes to something.
Who's involved in this?
What is it going to be like?
What's the purpose of this thing?
What's it going to be like when it's done?
Is this something I really want to be a part of?
Is this a disaster?
What is this?
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
That's a lot of vape, son.
I feel like that's smoke.
action bronson
I don't feel like that's vape.
That's not like fucking Apple vape.
That's straight up hash.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
action bronson
That's like if I was to take one of those blasts out of the pipe, it'd be that.
I just had them put it in here.
It's clean.
It's not one of those cartridges that you buy and it's like...
Fucks you up, gives you a third eye on your ass.
You know what I mean?
This is clean.
Full spectrum clean.
joe rogan
That's a problem with a lot of people with COVID is people who vaped.
You buy cheap vape oil and you don't know how they're making it.
There's a lot of kids that are vaping all the time and they're damaging their lungs.
action bronson
Bro, if there's one thing I spend money on, is what goes into my lungs, is the hash.
I don't give a fuck about much, but I care about hash.
joe rogan
Hmm, I understand.
I'm not even talking about that kind of vape.
I'm talking about tobacco vaping.
action bronson
Oh, tobacco.
Yeah, that shit's nasty.
joe rogan
It is nasty, but it's also dangerous.
There's a lot of kids that are out there vaping, and they think it's better than cigarette smoking, and they're doing a lot of damage to themselves.
action bronson
Well, they're doing tricks now.
Once you're able to start doing tricks with something, you shouldn't do it.
joe rogan
What kind of tricks?
action bronson
Well, they fucking blow, they take the smoke.
And then they blow it into a big circle and they jump through it and they do all...
You've never seen this shit?
joe rogan
No.
action bronson
It's like fucking champion vape fucking acrobatics and athletics.
joe rogan
Oh no.
action bronson
It's crazy.
joe rogan
So like breakdance vaping?
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
Breakdance vaping.
Fucking...
There's this one...
I don't know what to call him, but there's this one dude, he's fucking blowing things all over the place and then he like, yeah, this fucking guy.
This fucking, look at this.
unidentified
Oh, this is insane!
action bronson
What is he doing?
joe rogan
Whatever he's doing is awesome.
action bronson
It's awesome, but what is he smoking?
unidentified
What is that?
joe rogan
Who is this guy?
Amazing vape trip.
action bronson
Yo, he just threw a fucking Hadugan!
joe rogan
Bro, he's got 24 million videos, or a million views on this video.
action bronson
Yeah, bro, he just threw a fucking Hadugan with the smoke.
joe rogan
Wow.
How old is this kid?
action bronson
He looks like he's 12. Let's check his low capacity.
unidentified
How old is he?
jamie vernon
He might be, I don't know.
joe rogan
He looks very young.
It's amazing what he's doing, though.
action bronson
Yeah, it's his next level.
joe rogan
That's next level.
Well, he's got 24 million views in this video, man.
action bronson
So, like I said, once you start doing this, you shouldn't do this.
joe rogan
The Austin L. I wonder if he lives in Austin.
action bronson
Look, you got fucking, there's a picture, there's an Arnold training video under there, too.
joe rogan
Whoa, look at that.
unidentified
That's wild.
action bronson
You're telling me that there's an amazing vape trick and then an Arnold training video, or is that just your algorithm?
joe rogan
I was with you.
Oh, go back, go back, go back.
What did he do?
He just did it like a dragon.
Back up.
Look at that.
action bronson
Whoa!
joe rogan
He curled his mouth.
Listen, I was with you up until I saw the video.
Now I'm on his side.
action bronson
God!
jamie vernon
Look how much he's had to smoke to get all this.
action bronson
I'm definitely interchained.
joe rogan
If he dies, he dies.
action bronson
Look at that.
That was a sick fuck.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
Listen.
action bronson
See, that's heady as fuck.
joe rogan
This kid's from another planet.
action bronson
You know what?
I like it now.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm with him.
action bronson
I'm actually...
I'm into it now.
joe rogan
He's a magician.
action bronson
Fuck it.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Come on, man.
Look what he's doing.
action bronson
Damn, that was good.
This is crazy.
The rotation on that bottom one was nuts.
joe rogan
Bro, this guy's Doctor Strange.
action bronson
My lord.
Does this end or does he keep going?
Does he have more?
joe rogan
He's Benedict Cumberbatch.
What's his name?
action bronson
Damn, he has a lot of fucking moves.
joe rogan
Benedict Cumberbatch?
Is that it?
Patch or Batch?
jamie vernon
Batch.
joe rogan
He's Doctor Strange, man.
unidentified
Whoa!
Whoa!
action bronson
Come on.
No, come on.
joe rogan
Come on.
This kid's amazing.
action bronson
He has a new Visu sweatshirt on.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, take that kid for a jog.
action bronson
Yeah, definitely not.
unidentified
If he did what we did today, he'd be like, oh, come on, there's no chance.
Oh, come on.
jamie vernon
He's got a pretty good knowledge of wind current.
How do you do that?
joe rogan
That's a jellyfish.
action bronson
Fucking champion over here.
This is fucking weather, man.
unidentified
Look at this shit.
action bronson
This is nuts.
joe rogan
Come on.
This kid's amazing.
I want to hire him for a birthday party.
You know what?
action bronson
Yo, I swear to you, one of these fucking kids would love that shit.
These kids would freak out with the phone.
They would be filming it nonstop.
He's a star...
He, this guy's a star.
joe rogan
Yeah, he is a star.
action bronson
This is a celebrity right here.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, in my eyes.
action bronson
But it's fucking crazy what a celebrity is, right?
This is a celebrity.
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
I fuck with, I like this now.
joe rogan
I like it.
Austin Lawrence, that's his name.
action bronson
This is crazy.
jamie vernon
Lots of vape videos.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
Lots and lots of vape videos.
joe rogan
Imagine his parents, like, stop vaping.
Like, Mom, I'm telling you I'm onto something.
Shut the fuck up and stop vaping.
action bronson
No.
joe rogan
Get out of your room!
Oh, he's got different color vapes.
Oh, what is this?
What have we here?
jamie vernon
Hold on.
action bronson
Look at the size of that.
See, now I'm back on it.
I don't like it anymore.
joe rogan
But hold, please.
Look at this.
Come on.
He's got purple haze.
Like, legit purple haze.
Come on, man.
As a Hendrix fan?
action bronson
I mean, this is unbelievable.
joe rogan
Look, he's got green shit.
Look it.
The aliens are gonna come and talk to him first.
action bronson
Look at that thing.
I wish I had that contraption from my hash.
joe rogan
If you did, you wouldn't be here right now.
You'd be hovering.
Look at this shit.
This is wild, man.
action bronson
Yo, what is that?
I have to learn what that company is.
I think he built it like a fucking...
That's a...
He built...
Oh, he's got yellow shit, too.
Like he did the computers.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at him.
action bronson
He built the vape.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
action bronson
I think those are all different pieces from different vapes.
joe rogan
Do you think he gets pussy from this?
action bronson
No.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
What about dick?
action bronson
Yes, yes, yes, he does.
Yes, he does.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
Whatever he wants, he gets.
Girls are mesmerized.
action bronson
No, 100% he gets pussy from that because you get it for all kinds of weird things.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's an art form.
It's just a weird one that nobody ever thought was an art form before.
action bronson
He made me want to hit the vape.
joe rogan
Did you want to try to do some of that?
Show me something.
Show me something.
You must have learned something.
unidentified
It didn't work.
joe rogan
You need one of those robot dicks like he's got.
Those big fat boys.
That thing was like a lunchbox.
Yeah, it was a cell phone.
That thing was huge.
action bronson
Fucking bastard, man.
joe rogan
They make those.
There used to be a store near me in California that had all these vape-kins straps.
Remember we had that one big one that some dude sent me?
It was huge.
Remember that thing?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I remember.
I tried to put it together.
action bronson
Why do you have to start putting together the vape?
Don't send me anything I have to put together, bro.
jamie vernon
Oh, what is this?
The forced creativity he's going to have to go through now because he's stuck in the vape guy.
joe rogan
Oh, because he's going to keep doing this?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I mean, he's going to get really creative at what he's doing.
joe rogan
Oh, now he's doing special effects, though.
So now I'm a bit skeptical.
action bronson
Yeah, and I don't like this.
joe rogan
I don't like this.
action bronson
You know how everyone does collabs now?
He's going to start showing up in other people's videos.
jamie vernon
2.8 million followers on his Instagram channel.
action bronson
He's gonna start showing up in like bodybuilding videos and just fucking in the background of cooking shows and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's gonna just add atmosphere.
action bronson
Yeah, he's just gonna be there now.
joe rogan
Maybe you can have him in the back of your shows.
Like when you go back on stage, you're on stage rapping, he's behind you.
Yes.
action bronson
What I really wanted to do, I was gonna add in some kettlebell work.
Get the crowd into some kettlebell work on stage.
joe rogan
Okay.
action bronson
A flow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I get it.
action bronson
Maybe a mace flow.
joe rogan
Nice mace flow.
Yeah.
action bronson
That fucking dude in there.
joe rogan
You ever thought about cooking on stage while you're rapping?
action bronson
Of course.
joe rogan
Have a little Weber right beside the stage?
action bronson
Well, see, I would have to be outdoor.
Yeah, I would have to be outdoor with the Weber.
joe rogan
Right.
Maybe some South by Southwest shit.
Do it out here.
action bronson
I would love that.
joe rogan
Zilker Park?
action bronson
Let's go.
Let's do it.
joe rogan
That would be something that you literally could pull off.
Like a gigantic cookout slash...
Because as a chef slash rapper, you're a legit chef and a legit rapper.
You could do that.
You could have a show where people are outside barbecuing and doing music at the same time.
action bronson
Yeah, I wanted to do like a little fest, like a Fuck That's Delicious festival.
unidentified
Yes.
action bronson
Have all my favorite people around that cook.
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
Have amazing acts.
Have a little expose on olive oil, on different things, like a little class people could take.
A little, you know, 10 minute rotating class.
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
You know, just like a little fun day.
We could shoot the fucking balloon, shoot the clown in the mouth.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You have more energy now to do shit, too.
It's like you'll have more enthusiasm to do shit because your body's healthy.
unidentified
You're right.
action bronson
You know what?
When I was on stage at 300 and whatever pounds, I was still good.
My lung capacity was unbelievable.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
But...
I would be chilling in the room, smoking all day, sitting there eating.
I wouldn't be active.
There would be nothing else going on.
Now I fucking want to do things.
I'm bringing my body board to Portugal when I go to the show because I'm going to fucking shred.
There's no doubt about that.
I'm in the ocean when it's snowing.
joe rogan
Freezing cold.
I saw that.
action bronson
My man fucking Will, my man Will Scootin, he has this spot in the American Dream Mall in Jersey.
It's like that mall in Minnesota, the big one with the roller coasters and shit.
There's a water park in there.
Look at me catching shade right there.
That's crazy.
I'm fucking tubular right there.
That's what tubular is.
joe rogan
That's at a mall?
action bronson
That's in a fucking mall.
joe rogan
In New Jersey.
action bronson
In New Jersey, in a fucking mall.
joe rogan
New Jersey doesn't get enough respect.
unidentified
After hours.
action bronson
After hours.
That was probably like 11 p.m.
joe rogan
New Jersey just...
People think of New Jersey in a very negative way.
It's not fair.
action bronson
Oh yeah, watch that one.
joe rogan
Look at this.
action bronson
The whole point is just letting the wave go over your head.
joe rogan
You think you're eventually going to move to surfing?
action bronson
Nah, I'm not made to stand up.
I'm made to lay.
I'm made to go head first, man.
I'm head first.
I'm like a fucking crocodile.
Straight up.
I'm el cocodrilo.
joe rogan
Did you see that video of this fucking idiot who's got food in his mouth for a fish?
He's dangling into the water and the fish jumps up and hits the food and knocks him out cold and he falls in the tank?
action bronson
No, like a fucking arapaima?
joe rogan
Yeah, um, who has it?
action bronson
That big ass fish?
joe rogan
I think Mike, uh, Robin Black has it on his Instagram.
Bro, it's the most ridiculous shit ever.
Look at this, look at this, look at this.
So this dude is in there, watch this.
The fish, bang!
Bro, he's out cold.
action bronson
Bro, that is like a fucking arapaima.
That's a catfish, right?
What was that?
joe rogan
An arapaima is an enormous fish.
action bronson
Oh, he was joking around.
joe rogan
He was fucking around.
jamie vernon
No, he said he was knocked out.
joe rogan
No, did he?
jamie vernon
That's what he said.
He said I got knocked out.
I watched the video a few times to see what's going on.
joe rogan
Do it one more time.
action bronson
And he woke up underwater?
joe rogan
Do it one more time.
Oh, this is every wheel kick fish in the UFC. Oh, yeah, this one's a tough one.
Here it goes.
Watch it one more time.
Nah, man, I'm telling you, he ain't faking it.
action bronson
He went stiff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, he woke up.
He woke up.
Okay, that dude's got a glass jaw.
He's got a glass jaw.
Listen to me, son.
Don't ever fight.
action bronson
Holy shit.
joe rogan
If a fish can knock you out, that's a two-inch punch.
Don't fight.
No fighting for you.
But the other thing is, the things that knock you out are things you don't see coming.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
And he definitely didn't see that coming because he had a mask on his thighs.
Why would he wear...
action bronson
He's a schmuck.
joe rogan
Well, he's a kid.
I was a schmuck when I was his age, too.
action bronson
Nah, I'm still a schmuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would've done the exact same thing.
But I would've taken it right on the chin.
And that would've been fine.
action bronson
Not from the fish.
You're not going down from the fucking fish, bro.
Come on.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
I mean, maybe everybody gets knocked out by that fish.
You gotta think how fast that thing...
action bronson
You watch River Monsters?
joe rogan
I do watch River Monsters.
action bronson
Bro, it's one of my favorite things in life.
joe rogan
How about that dude?
He made a living fishing.
action bronson
He's an amazing fisherman though.
unidentified
He is.
action bronson
He should be famous.
That guy should be famous.
joe rogan
Just fishing on TV. Not even a really good looking guy.
action bronson
He's interesting looking.
joe rogan
Very interesting.
action bronson
That's what I'm saying.
I don't want you to be good looking.
I want you to be interesting looking.
It's unique.
He has a fucking good character.
His character.
His voice is character.
Look at this man.
He's amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at him.
Actually, he's pretty good looking.
action bronson
He's not bad.
joe rogan
I should check the fuck up.
action bronson
He's not bad.
joe rogan
Look at that fish he's catching.
He goes all...
Look at that fucking thing in the upper right-hand corner, Jamie.
What is that?
action bronson
That's fucking next level.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
action bronson
Holy shit.
joe rogan
I know what that is and I forget.
action bronson
That's definitely in the Amazon.
Or is that in Thailand?
joe rogan
What is that thing?
jamie vernon
Photoshopped.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
jamie vernon
I mean, it's just with colors.
It's the same fish.
joe rogan
Right.
But I think that's what it looks like.
It's the teeth that get in me.
I forget what that thing's called.
What is that thing called?
See if it shows you...
Oh my god, that's amazing looking.
That's amazing looking.
action bronson
Like alligator gar or some shit like that?
Is that what it is?
Alligator gar?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
It's not an alligator gar.
I think that's a South American fish.
I forget what it's called though.
Fuck.
Tigerfish.
That's it.
God, it's so simple.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a tigerfish.
action bronson
Tigerfish, yeah, that's definitely what it is.
joe rogan
Look at the teeth on that fucking thing.
action bronson
My god.
joe rogan
What a world they live in.
No heart, no warmth.
They don't take care of their kids, and they all have fucked up teeth.
action bronson
It's like fucking Britain.
joe rogan
They eat their young, too.
They'll eat other people's young.
It's a weird world, the world of fish, because there's no love in the fish world.
There's no cuddling.
If you see bears, Playing like there's a video that I watched the other day of this mama bear and her cubs and the mama bear sitting on literally on the side of a road on a highway.
She just squats down like this like sitting there and the cubs are sucking on her tummy and you watching them suck on her nipples like this is there's love in the animal world you know but not in the fish world.
action bronson
No that's what mothers do.
They will feed I mean a good mother will feed their baby anywhere.
They pull the tit out it don't matter.
joe rogan
They don't give a shit.
action bronson
Because the tit no longer is an object of sexual lust.
It's an object of nurture.
joe rogan
Right.
What a weird trick that is.
action bronson
It's a fucking...
It's just like the three-card Monty.
What are you doing here?
There's a fucking guy over in Harlem with the fucking thing playing games.
joe rogan
She's just sitting there, and they're just sucking on her nipples, and she's just chilling.
But there's something about that, like mammals.
That's one of the reasons why grizzlies are so dangerous to hikers.
It's usually not males.
It's usually females that...
action bronson
Animals in general, right?
It's usually the female cat, the female large cats.
Yeah, the issue.
joe rogan
Like that mountain lion video that we showed the other day where this mountain lion's chasing after this jogger.
It's because it was a female mountain lion and she had cubs.
action bronson
Of course.
joe rogan
The same thing with grizzlies.
Most of the time when there's a grizzly attack, it's either one of two things.
Either you startled the bear and it didn't know you were there and you're too close to the bear and the bear just decides to attack.
Or it's a female that has cubs and she just decides you're too fucking close and she attacks and fucks you up.
That's usually what it is.
But it's because they love their babies.
action bronson
So much.
joe rogan
That's what's weird.
It's weird, man.
action bronson
So much.
joe rogan
There's a weird connection in animals that just doesn't seem to exist in lizards.
It doesn't exist in snakes.
It doesn't exist in fish.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
They don't give a fuck about their kids.
action bronson
Yeah, they're solitary.
They just have them and fucking fend for themselves.
joe rogan
They shit them out in the ocean.
unidentified
Just poof!
joe rogan
Get out of here!
action bronson
Figure it out!
Who the fuck knows where they go?
joe rogan
And they have a hundred of them because they know only ten are going to make it.
action bronson
What about the turtles?
unidentified
Oh, the worst.
action bronson
The fucking sea turtles when they go to the place and they all come out at the same time?
joe rogan
And then the birds come down, snatch them up.
action bronson
Some of them, yeah, they get snatched.
joe rogan
It's crazy watching them happen.
action bronson
Very few make them.
joe rogan
Very few.
But it's such a sad way that nature played a trick on them to make sure there's not too many turtles.
Nature looked at them and went, hmm, you're born with a shell.
Like, you got a built-in armor, and you live to be like, what, a thousand?
action bronson
Yeah, there's very few of them.
joe rogan
And nature's like, hmm, we gotta make it hard for you to make it.
Real hard.
When you're little, everybody wants to fuck you up.
Sharks fuck them up.
You know what really fucks up turtles?
Alligators and crocodiles.
Crocodiles just eat turtles.
They don't give a shit about your shell.
It's like an asshole with pistachio nuts.
He's too lazy to crack them open.
He just bites down.
action bronson
Bro, the best thing...
Every time I think about a pistachio, I think about the naked gun.
You ever seen that scene?
Fucking Leslie Nielsen and the other detective in the car with the red pistachios and they just start building up into the car?
joe rogan
I forgot about that scene.
action bronson
Bro, the naked guns.
These are underrated comedies.
I grew up with these comedies.
joe rogan
Wasn't OJ Simpson in that?
action bronson
100%.
Nordberg.
His name was Nordberg.
joe rogan
Back in the day.
action bronson
He got fucking shot.
He got injured so much every time.
It was a comedic injury.
He would get fucked.
He'd put his hands down on the thing.
He'd get burned.
Then he would go that way and get fucking shot.
joe rogan
Would you have dinner with OJ Simpson?
action bronson
Why not?
unidentified
Why not?
action bronson
Where?
joe rogan
Somewhere where no one's gonna take pictures of you.
action bronson
It depends on where.
Look at him.
Who's that?
He's the man.
But this is the type of shit I grew up on.
My grandfather was a fucking fan of this stuff.
joe rogan
Well, this all came out of Airplane, right?
Exactly.
Airplane was like the first...
action bronson
Mel Brooks.
joe rogan
The first of those silly movies.
I tried to get my kids to watch the Marx Brothers' Duck Soup last night.
I said, let's just watch the preview.
Just watch like the...
Just see what it is.
Oh my god, it's impossible.
They were like, what the fuck are you making me watch?
action bronson
Yeah, they don't like shit.
Kids don't like shit.
joe rogan
But I was just trying to show them.
I was just trying to say, listen...
This is the things that people thought were funny in 1933. Like, you have to understand, this is before World War II. This is a weird, weird, weird time to be alive.
action bronson
How old was the baby?
joe rogan
They were 12 and 10. Oh, yeah.
I was sitting down with them.
action bronson
At that time, probably.
Well, it was all of them.
A little bit older.
A little bit older, they'll understand more.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
My 24-year-old was there, too, and she didn't get it either.
unidentified
She didn't give a shit.
joe rogan
She was like, what the fuck is this?
action bronson
Fuck that.
unidentified
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Look at them.
I mean, the Marx Brothers, it's so weird when you watch what was comedy back then.
I mean, it's kind of amusing, I guess.
It's kind of amusing.
And it's more interesting than anything, because I'm watching these guys and I'm like, if one of these guys got sick, they're basically dead.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what I was thinking.
I know that's a fucked up thing to think of, but if they break their leg, they're basically dead.
If they get some cancer, no one's going to detect it.
action bronson
With this fucking polio.
They used to fucking get lots of polio back then, right?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, man.
Yeah.
action bronson
It's fucked up.
joe rogan
For real.
But when you watch these clips of these old, old, old movies, you go, wow, I just...
It's not that long ago, man.
action bronson
It's really not.
joe rogan
It's not even 100 years ago.
So you go back 100 years ago, people didn't know what the fuck was going on.
They had this sort of very rudimentary understanding of what was interesting or entertaining.
And then you see how limited culture was because the kind of jokes that they laughed at, it showed you how suppressed people are and how...
You know, people, it was a hard time.
No one was fat.
That's the other thing.
If you see a guy with a belly, it's very rare.
Like a regular, a fat guy back then was like a regular guy today.
action bronson
Yeah, they were like shocking.
It was like a circus act.
joe rogan
Yeah, like every, look at his fake mustache.
jamie vernon
What is that?
It's so bad.
joe rogan
It's a fake mustache.
jamie vernon
I never knew it was that bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, it looks like it's painted on.
Did he ever have a real mustache?
jamie vernon
I don't know, that looks so goofy.
joe rogan
That looks just like paint.
unidentified
That's weird.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did he sometimes have a regular mustache?
jamie vernon
I thought he did.
This is the first time I'm like, what the fuck is that?
joe rogan
Yeah, that is weird that he did that.
action bronson
You know what?
This is one of those times where you think something's something and it's not.
Years later, what's that shit?
jamie vernon
The Mandela effect.
action bronson
Yeah, Berenstain Bears.
joe rogan
Yes, yes, yes.
unidentified
It's that.
action bronson
That just happened.
joe rogan
Go to that one.
action bronson
That's paint.
joe rogan
It's paint.
That's paint.
Groucho Marx's mustache is paint.
action bronson
Motherfucker.
This fucking asshole.
I can't believe it.
unidentified
Look at that.
That's so weird.
joe rogan
Go to Groucho.
That's crazy.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
That's paint.
His lip is painted.
Imagine if you're on his show and you're like, hey, Groucho, nice to meet you.
unidentified
What the fuck, man?
joe rogan
That's paint?
action bronson
He looks like some fucking weirdo dude walking around the Bronx that I know.
He just fucking paints his mustache on.
He's like fucking Hollywood Hogan.
unidentified
Look at his eyebrows too.
joe rogan
His eyebrows are pretty thin and he painted them thick and fat.
Bro, that's weird.
jamie vernon
I've never seen that before.
joe rogan
I never noticed it.
action bronson
That's NWO Hollywood Hogan right there.
joe rogan
Look at that one.
Is that the same thing in that one up top?
It's all painted?
jamie vernon
It's just like it's so smaller and fidelity is not good.
joe rogan
Right, so the images were so low quality that you could get away with it back then, so he could walk around with paint on his lip.
action bronson
But I love the vibe of the poster, of the art.
I love the art.
That shit is amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing, right?
Go with Groucho Marx, you bet your life.
That was when he was hosting that game show.
So there he looks like a real mustache.
He's older.
He gave up on the pain.
action bronson
They were like, listen, bro.
Just fucking grow that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, so that's real.
action bronson
Cut the bullshit.
joe rogan
But look how small it is in comparison.
Look how small his eyebrows are.
That was, as he got older, he gave up.
action bronson
He looks like Dolly.
joe rogan
Well, I think cameras got better, too.
He's like, mm, shit.
I gotta grow a real mustache.
action bronson
Bro, that looks great.
That looks like pussy hair.
That looks like pussy hair.
I don't know what that looks like.
Soft pussy hair.
That's ridiculous.
joe rogan
He probably went through a bunch of different versions of the fake mustache.
Let's see what that one is.
Yeah, that looks fake as fuck.
That looks like he glued a mustache on his lip.
Because look, his lip goes down, the mustache goes up.
What is that?
What's that gap?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
That's so weird.
joe rogan
That's a fake mustache.
I had to do a scene once in a show where they gave me a fake mustache.
It feels so weird because it stiffens your upper lip.
It doesn't move right.
You don't feel like you're talking good.
Yeah, look at those old ones.
That's what he really looked like.
Oh, that's probably why.
See, he could slip around.
So if he got rid of the eyebrows and got rid of the fake mustache, that dude could go anywhere.
action bronson
He had looks.
He had lots of looks.
joe rogan
He's a handsome fellow.
But look at that.
That's gross.
action bronson
He's Turkish there.
joe rogan
That's so weird.
It's almost like...
Go to the one in the middle where it's really ridiculous.
At the up top.
Yeah.
Look at that one.
That's crazy.
Look at how fake that looks.
That's so stupid.
I can't believe I didn't know that until this moment.
action bronson
Did you ever try and show your kids Mr. Bean?
joe rogan
Oh, no, I didn't.
action bronson
Oh, my fucking lord.
I used to crack up at Mr. Bean, bro.
joe rogan
How high were you, though?
action bronson
I wasn't high.
This was when I was a kid.
I must have been already high, you know?
I wasn't fucked up.
Because Mr. Bean used to make me fucking cry.
joe rogan
You know what used to make me laugh that should never make anybody laugh is Ernest.
action bronson
Ernest goes to jail.
Ernest goes to summer camp.
I was talking about that with someone the other day, Ernest.
joe rogan
I feel like Ernest started out doing commercials.
I feel like that was like a character, like the fucking Verizon guy or something like that.
action bronson
Doesn't that happen after?
After you've done a couple of bullshit movies or something?
joe rogan
I don't know.
But maybe I'm doing the Bernstein Bears thing.
action bronson
Isn't Ernest the first Larry the Cable dude?
joe rogan
No.
action bronson
Like that type of vibe?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
action bronson
But he was like a character where it was like continuous earnest.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It was that, but Larry the Cable Guy is like a legit comic.
Like, what was the commercial?
jamie vernon
It says, first commercial featuring the character advertised in appearance by the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders at Beach Bend Park in Amusement Park in Bowling Green, Kentucky.
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
action bronson
Larry the Cable Guy is a real comic?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Well, his name's Dan Whitney.
It's his real name.
action bronson
But he goes as Dan Whitney and does...
unidentified
No.
action bronson
So he's fucking Larry the...
joe rogan
He does only Larry the Cable Guy now.
But he started out as Dan Whitney.
There's some video of him doing Dan Whitney in its old 1980s comedy where he had the pants that go up real high, like Cavaricis and shit.
He was a good comic, a decent comic as a regular comic, but then he found his niche.
action bronson
What really took him over the top.
joe rogan
Larry the Cable Guy.
This is what it was.
He started out a guy who would be a regular on a radio show.
So he would do this character on a radio show.
Larry the Cable Guy, but he's a funny writer.
Larry's a really good writer, or Dan's a really good writer.
So Dan wrote these bits for this character and wound up taking off, and then he started doing stand-up with it.
I met Dan way back in the day, like 1996. Fucking two or some shit.
In Montreal.
We were at the comedy festival at the same time together.
And Dan was like...
He was just a normal dude who did this Larry the Cable Guy character.
But it was funny, man.
He's a good writer.
He's a really funny writer.
He wrote for this character.
And it was some funny shit.
And then he's like, why am I being Dan Whitney?
I'll just hang out and be this guy.
And then...
action bronson
Fucking, he was right on.
He was spot on with it.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he just became that dude.
action bronson
He was right for the time in this country.
joe rogan
Well, you know Dice Clay.
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dice Clay used to be Andrew Silverstein.
action bronson
He chucked that.
joe rogan
This is what happened.
Dice had a bunch of different characters.
unidentified
He's Jewish?
joe rogan
He's Jewish.
And Dice had a bunch of different characters that he used to do on stage.
He does phenomenal impressions, like off the charts.
John Travolta.
Robert De Niro, Tony Danz.
He did all these impressions.
And at the end, he would do this act.
He had his act.
And then at the end of his act, he would do the Dice Man.
He would do this character.
And he would sing these nursery rhymes.
And the character just fucking exploded.
It's like, he was funny, and then all of a sudden, boom, he went nuclear at the end.
And then he decided, why don't I just stick with this one fucking character and do my whole act like that?
And then he became the Dice Man.
And he was legitimately the first comedian that sold out arenas.
Like football arenas.
action bronson
Like the Garden?
joe rogan
Yeah, like the fucking Nassau Coliseum.
action bronson
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Like enormous places.
And he sold out hundreds of them.
Like Dice never has to work again for the rest of his life.
And now he just goes to the gym and makes silly videos.
Is he jacked?
He's pretty big.
He works out a lot.
He stays fit.
action bronson
Is he on GH? I don't know what he's on.
joe rogan
Why don't you ask him?
action bronson
I don't know.
I don't fucking know.
unidentified
I'm just curious.
joe rogan
Are you trying to talk about Camille Nanjiani?
action bronson
Yeah, I actually was, bro.
That was fucking unbelievable.
joe rogan
He looks good, man.
He looks like Wolverine.
action bronson
He does, he does, he does.
joe rogan
He looks like Hugh Jackman in front.
See, we were talking about his legs, though.
We have to do something about his legs.
Camille, talk to me.
We gotta get you on some squats.
Bruh.
That's not good.
The calves is ridiculous.
action bronson
Bruh.
joe rogan
But his arms are fucking redonkulous.
There's a picture of him, a more recent one, no mask, of him walking out of somewhere, and he has a tank top on.
action bronson
Well, who is this guy again?
joe rogan
Holy shit.
He's a comic and an actor.
And he used to be...
action bronson
Oh, I've fucking seen him before.
That was...
Now that's it.
joe rogan
Full transformation.
Full transformation.
And people are mad at him.
action bronson
My mind is blown out.
unidentified
They're mad at him.
action bronson
It all just clicked right now.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
They're mad at him that he looks sexy.
Sorry.
Sorry, everybody.
I'm like, he took steroids.
I don't like it.
Well, if you took steroids and did what he did.
No, I think he took steroids.
I'm going to be honest with you.
He's in his 40s.
action bronson
Will he say he did?
Because a real motherfucker will say they did.
Like, yeah, I'm on some shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't understand people that don't say they're on some shit.
I always tell people I do some shit.
I've always done some shit.
I've been doing some shit since I was in my 30s.
As soon as my hormones started to drop, I was like, there he is.
That's the picture.
Like, get the fuck out of here.
action bronson
He's fucking jacked up.
Look at those shoulders, bro.
joe rogan
Jackmified.
And I think he's probably coming straight from the gym, so he's got a nice pump.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
But come on, son.
action bronson
How old is he?
unidentified
40?
joe rogan
He's in his 40s.
action bronson
Oh yeah, he got his man strength.
joe rogan
Listen.
action bronson
That's man muscle now.
That's like mature muscle that builds.
joe rogan
That's Tren.
He's getting that shit from a needle.
That's 100%.
And I don't hate it.
action bronson
Talk about fucking Tren.
When I was like 23, my boy made Tren.
He lives in a project.
joe rogan
In the projects?
action bronson
In the projects.
And we shot it.
And it was crazy.
joe rogan
What is he, a chemist?
action bronson
No, he's a fucking truck driver.
joe rogan
They always talk about truck driver meth.
He's got truck driver trend.
action bronson
I remember the bottle.
It had a fucking juiced up fucking...
joe rogan
Like a horse?
unidentified
No, no, no.
action bronson
It had Spongebob juiced up on it.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
No!
action bronson
It was like so yellow.
It was crazy.
I don't even know what it was, but we shot a bunch of shit.
Who the hell knows?
joe rogan
Oh my God.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
action bronson
I remember shooting juice in the street.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
In the street?
action bronson
Bro, we would go to this place called Platinum Gym, 24 hours on Queens Boulevard.
We would come out of the gym, I'd have the fucking needle loaded up in the car, we would just go round back, yeah, we'd fucking have the music on, like Mobb Deep would be played, fucking shoot me in the ass, I'd shoot him in the fucking ass and that's it.
Mob deep-sided shit.
unidentified
Oh, that's hilarious.
Oh, man.
action bronson
Good old Chase.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a touchy subject with some folks.
They don't think you should ever do it.
They don't think you should ever do anything.
And even testosterone replacement.
They're like, I get my testosterone from my balls, bro.
action bronson
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
I get it from my balls, bro.
Yeah, well, okay.
When you get into your 50s and 60s and then your 70s, your balls are not going to work so good and you can make a choice.
You can either go with science and get it replaced and you feel way better and you're way stronger and your immune system's better and your brain works better and you feel happier or...
unidentified
Do you, boo.
You do you.
joe rogan
You do you.
action bronson
They do them.
joe rogan
Yeah, just you do you.
Don't worry about it.
But the thing about Camille is he used to be, you know, one of those alt guys.
He was like a slim, you know, regular guy that didn't look like he really worked out or lifted weights.
And then he became this guy who looks like a superhero.
But he's playing a superhero in a movie.
That's what he's doing.
action bronson
But he fucking unlocked his genetics.
Kinda?
No?
joe rogan
Go to the before pic.
jamie vernon
I'm looking for...
There's an article that says, no, you don't have to do steroids to look like this.
joe rogan
Listen to me.
Yes, you do.
Whoever wrote that article is a fan of his, or one of them alt kids that doesn't want to believe in Santa Claus.
action bronson
I grew up reading Muscular Development.
joe rogan
Listen, he's in his 40s.
action bronson
They told it to you straight.
Greg Valentino told it to you straight.
Remember that dude with the hugest arms?
joe rogan
Well, he had the inject synthol in his arms, make them like balloons.
Yeah.
action bronson
Fucked up, but he would tell you the real.
joe rogan
Well, most of those guys now admit it.
action bronson
And most of them, they would tell you the real shit.
joe rogan
I had Ronnie Coleman on.
action bronson
I love Ronnie.
joe rogan
One of the all-time greats.
action bronson
I made him a steak.
joe rogan
Did you really?
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where?
action bronson
At my show.
unidentified
Wow.
action bronson
On the Untitled show.
I had him on.
I fucking walked him out.
I put him in the chair.
And I made a mistake from Peter Lugas that they gave me.
I made it for him and he ate two of them.
It was an honor.
joe rogan
I love running.
So, okay.
Now, that picture on the right is also what he used to look like.
He's even better looking than that now.
He looks better than that now.
action bronson
He's sick.
He's fucking ripped.
I love it.
For me, that's my look.
You need hair on you and shit like that and fucking ripped underneath like a Russian wrestler.
joe rogan
What people said about is the look of his face.
action bronson
Like Zangief.
unidentified
His face has changed.
joe rogan
If you look at that picture...
action bronson
His face has changed.
joe rogan
There you see what his face looks like now.
He's got muscles in his face.
And then you go to that one...
action bronson
No, that's called...
You know what that's called.
joe rogan
Yeah, that one right there.
Go to that...
No, the one above it, Jamie.
action bronson
That's called growth face.
unidentified
Yeah, it's also, you work your muscles.
action bronson
Yeah, there's muscles in your face.
joe rogan
In your jaw, especially when you're clamping down and lifting weights.
action bronson
Of course.
joe rogan
You develop.
I actually work my jaw out.
I have this jaw.
action bronson
Of course.
joe rogan
I forget what the thing is called.
action bronson
Is it like a mouthpiece?
joe rogan
No, it looks like a ball that's been cut in half, and I put it in my teeth like this, and I go like this.
I do reps.
I do reps with my jaw.
action bronson
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's really good for you.
action bronson
Of course.
joe rogan
It's all, I mean, part of me is like, you really should have a strong jaw in case somebody punches you.
Not that anybody's going to punch you.
action bronson
No, but I'm saying.
joe rogan
But it's a thing.
action bronson
Of course, that's the knockout mechanism right there is where you get touched.
joe rogan
There's something about jaw strength that correlates to total body strength.
I don't understand it totally, but I read this thing about it.
I was like, what are the benefits of working out with your jaw?
If you can't find what the thing is, I can find it on my Amazon.
jamie vernon
The guy who sells it on TikTok, they put filters on his face.
action bronson
Oh, he was in that fucking movie I just seen, man.
joe rogan
Oh, you seen him before when he was skinny?
action bronson
Yeah, and that's what's fucking blowing my mind because I wouldn't have recognized him now.
His face changed.
joe rogan
Yeah, it changed.
That's a lot of tests and probably some other shit too.
You're talking about the guy who only works out his jaw and he's got these preposterous muscles.
jamie vernon
This is what you're talking about, right?
joe rogan
Yes, it's exactly what I have.
unidentified
What is it called?
joe rogan
Jawsercise.
That's what it's called.
So I have one of those and I do reps.
action bronson
That's also for like anti-aging, I would imagine, to try and keep your skin tight.
joe rogan
It's just really good for your face muscles, too.
unidentified
But you see a lot of motherfuckers with droopy faces.
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
You don't want no fucking droopy face.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
I don't want a droopy face.
But I think there's also some health benefits of having a strong jaw.
See if you can find out what are the health benefits of jaws or size.
I know I read something about it.
I think I was high when I ordered it, though.
I'm going to be honest with you.
action bronson
You order shit ever off Instagram when you're stoned?
joe rogan
Sometimes, yeah.
action bronson
I just ordered some pulley.
unidentified
Oh, a workout pulley?
action bronson
Come on, I've just seen it on Instagram.
I was like, let's get this.
joe rogan
Yeah, how is it?
Isn't it good?
action bronson
I haven't even used it yet.
I used it at the gym and it's pretty fucking sick, actually, because it gives you that dead weight.
It's only one pulley pulling the weight, so it's just one thing.
joe rogan
I've ordered some good shit off of Instagram.
I can't remember any of it, though.
unidentified
But I remember getting some of the things.
joe rogan
I'm like, I'm happy with this purchase.
action bronson
I used to order a lot of shit.
We got the Super Slicer.
You remember the Super Slicer back in the day?
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
It was like a mandolin that you could make fries, you could cut the onion, you could do...
So much more.
The foreman grill was like the best invention.
That shit's better than the iPhone, I think.
joe rogan
Foreman Grill is a jammin' grill.
It's legit.
action bronson
It was the best thing in the world.
It was the best thing.
joe rogan
It's very legit.
action bronson
It was so good.
joe rogan
Especially if you let it heat up.
You crank it up.
You get that good sear.
You can make a nice meal with Foreman Grill.
You really can.
If you live in a small apartment.
action bronson
You preach it to the choir.
I love that shit.
I've been talking about the Foreman Grill.
Everyone thinks I'm joking.
joe rogan
No.
action bronson
I love that fucking thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You don't need expensive stuff to cook great food.
You really don't.
Look at that little grill, that little Weber grill.
I have one of those little ones.
It's like, if you have two steaks, that's all you need.
This little 12-inch Weber grill.
action bronson
Man, I'm just trying to be...
That thing's like 30 bucks.
I'm just trying to do wilderness cooking.
I'm literally just trying to cook in the wilderness.
joe rogan
You know what I love about that Weber, too?
It doesn't weigh anything.
That weighs nothing.
Weighs nothing.
action bronson
Put it right in the car.
joe rogan
You can throw it.
It weighs nothing.
action bronson
You put it right in the car.
It cools down in less than, you know, five minutes.
You're good to go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Just dump the coals out.
action bronson
Yes.
joe rogan
And it's just, it's so portable.
It's like, if you think about portable grills, what's more portable than that little 12-inch Weber?
action bronson
It's fucking perfect.
And even you could get crazy with the 18. Yeah.
Even that's not unrealistic in the Cherokee.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No.
No, it's easy.
And then the other thing is like, realistically, when you're cooking with fire and wood, if you got lump charcoal, that's wood, right?
That's just wood.
unidentified
That's wood.
joe rogan
It's wood that's turned into charcoal.
action bronson
It's already prepped for you.
joe rogan
Fire and wood, so you get that nice smoky feeling.
action bronson
It's beautiful.
It's beautiful to cook barbarically.
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
I love primal cooking.
I love fire.
I love that shit.
It's healthier for you too.
joe rogan
It feels good.
action bronson
It does feel good.
joe rogan
Cooking over fire feels good.
action bronson
Vegetables over fire taste better.
It tastes like wholesome.
It tastes fucking...
unidentified
Good.
joe rogan
But that's why I love pellet grills too.
Because even though it's complicated and it's digital and there's engineering involved.
action bronson
I haven't used this one yet.
I haven't used them.
joe rogan
I have a Traeger, man.
I swear by it.
action bronson
Everyone swears.
joe rogan
They're so good.
I've had one for years.
This is the thing about them.
They maintain the perfect temperature.
Like, if you're one of those dudes who wants to be there and work it and you want to make sure that you're stoking the coals.
action bronson
I'm kind of that guy.
joe rogan
There's nothing wrong with that.
That's a good thing.
action bronson
I'm kind of that guy.
joe rogan
But if you're one of those dudes that wants to do a brisket for eight hours and never sweat it at all...
You have a thermometer that goes into the meat, gives you the exact temperature.
It shows up on your phone.
Your phone's telling you what temperature your food is.
action bronson
And it tells you how much pellet to put in?
You don't have to ever check pellets?
joe rogan
The pellets go for days.
action bronson
Are you serious?
unidentified
For days.
joe rogan
You could cook for 40 hours with one hopper full of pellets.
action bronson
I've literally seen people that don't know how to cook fucking pull off tremendous looking meals on Instagram.
unidentified
Yes.
action bronson
From what I've seen.
joe rogan
At the end of the day, it's still just fire and wood.
That's all it is.
It's these pellets or wood?
action bronson
It's just down to a science of the timings.
joe rogan
They make the pellets out of like, if you were going to make this desk, like this is all solid oak.
Somebody had to cut this with a saw.
The sawdust, they take that sawdust and compress it.
That's it.
And it hits the heating element, catches fire.
That's how your food cooks.
But there's something very satisfying about being there over the coals.
action bronson
For real.
joe rogan
Like having those coals and putting that steak on.
action bronson
Making the fire, yeah.
Like stoking it and getting everything.
joe rogan
You know what I got recently?
I got one of them Argentine grills.
Crank, crank, crank, crank, crank.
It raises and lowers.
action bronson
You're speaking my language.
I love that fucking thing.
joe rogan
Logs and the bracero, and you light the logs on fire, and then the ashes come down, you scrape them underneath.
unidentified
That's so good.
joe rogan
It's so much work, but it's so exciting.
action bronson
It's so much work, but it's a ritual.
It's one of those things.
It's like you gather your people and you fucking feed them off this crazy contraption that someone else hand-built for you.
You know what I mean?
All the hand-built love that goes into things and the passion, it really counts for something.
joe rogan
Yeah, and there's something about...
I think there's something about cooking over fire that sparks up your DNA. Every time I've been camping and we cook, get one of them little grills and put it down over the fire, there's something about cooking over fire that...
Gets those caveman genes fired up, like those old ancient genes.
Like, oh, we were successful.
We got food.
Our family's going to stay alive.
It's like an exciting thing, too, because success in life was not guaranteed back then.
So when you cook over fire, I think it sparks something in your brain, particularly for men.
Like, women don't seem to get that excited about cooking over a fire.
action bronson
No, they don't give a shit.
joe rogan
But men do, right?
They do.
Why is that?
What is that?
action bronson
It does spark something, and I'll say this, I was never fucking excited about going camping, but once I went there, once I was there, it was like the times of my life, you know, like I had a great time, and you're right, when you spark that stuff, and you're like, you're sitting around this fire, and things are cooking, and...
joe rogan
Food feels better.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It feels better.
It feels like you're, you know, the stakes are higher.
It's almost like if you didn't have this food, you'd be fucked out here.
But because you have that food, you're like, oh, now I'm nourished.
I'm nourished I'm gonna stay alive and you're smelling that clean air and you're looking here fucking birds and shit Something exciting about it man I fucking love birds, bro.
unidentified
I do, too.
action bronson
That was a good bird.
joe rogan
I do, too.
I have bird feeders at my house, and I fill those fuckers up all the time.
I'm basically like an enabler for all these birds.
They don't have to hustle anymore.
They just come to my house.
action bronson
We definitely do the same.
We leave them out on the deck.
I actually have a champion birder in my family.
unidentified
Really?
action bronson
He's a fucking champion birder up in Maine.
joe rogan
What does he do?
action bronson
He's a birder.
joe rogan
So he raises them?
action bronson
No, he looks at them and he diagnoses the species and finds new ones.
LAUGHTER He looks at it and he finds them.
joe rogan
You know, birders are the people that push the binocular game.
action bronson
That's what I mean.
It's a big deal.
joe rogan
There's two types of people that push the binocular game.
Western hunters and birders.
action bronson
No special ops?
joe rogan
No.
They just adapt to Yeah, they have high-tech optics for sure, but they're not wearing binos.
That's not normal.
They're looking through scopes and telescopes and stuff like that.
They got range-finding scopes and things along those lines.
But those birders, man, they're out there in the forest just looking for the glimmers of a cardinal's feathers.
unidentified
There he is.
There he is.
They get so excited.
action bronson
Oh, there is.
Bro, I get excited when I walk through the park and I see a new species that I have never seen before.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
action bronson
It makes me excited.
joe rogan
Have you been to Costa Rica?
action bronson
Nah, I need to get down to South America more.
I've only been to Mexico, which is fucking unreal to me.
joe rogan
Mexico's badass, too.
action bronson
No, I mean, I've done some ruins there.
When I was four hundo, close to four hundo, I climbed Coba.
joe rogan
Did you really?
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
When I came down, I threw up all over the place.
Wow.
Gatorade.
Blue Gatorade.
All over.
unidentified
Blue Gatorade.
action bronson
But it was fun.
I was walking around shirtless.
It was amazing.
joe rogan
One of the weirdest moments of my life was going to Chichen Itza.
Because...
unidentified
First of all, I was high as fuck.
action bronson
Of course.
joe rogan
High as fuck.
Edibles.
I was taking breath strips.
Edible breath strips.
unidentified
Whew.
action bronson
Edible breath strips.
joe rogan
What's that?
They're so unpredictable because like you get one and it's like 50 milligrams.
You get another it's 150 milligrams.
unidentified
What's that?
action bronson
I've never even heard of a breath stripper.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
California.
action bronson
You pop open- I just blasted a punch bar.
unidentified
Mmm.
action bronson
I don't even know these people but they make, yo these things, I don't know dog.
Punch bar?
They literally just fucking lay you down.
They lay you down.
They hit you with a fucking big Francis Ngannou fucking punch.
unidentified
That's the hit they hit you with.
joe rogan
So these breath strips were my favorite because you could take them and put them in a Listerine breath strip container and no one knows the difference as long as no one asks you for one.
Oh, my breath is kind of funky.
Can I get one of those?
No.
I can't give you this.
action bronson
You can't have this one.
joe rogan
You can't handle this.
I gave one to Tommy Segura and we had to fly to Australia and he told me he literally almost jumped off the plane before it started taking off the runway.
He was thinking he can't do it.
I can't do it.
I gotta get off this fucking plane.
But he hung in there and he didn't say shit and he made it all the way across the ocean.
action bronson
That's fucking...
I love that.
But for 15 hours he did that?
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
I think he was good.
action bronson
That's amateur shit.
That's fucking amateur shit.
Let's be fair.
You gotta fucking be able to hold your stuff, man.
unidentified
What's up with that?
He was fine.
joe rogan
He was fine after a couple hours.
action bronson
You have to be able to time it.
You have to time your drugs.
joe rogan
We timed it poorly.
I think I gave it to him when we were sitting there waiting to get on the plane.
That's the problem.
And then once we got on the runway, it just...
action bronson
Probably, yeah.
You have to be in the air already once you're fucking demolished.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Then you'll be fine.
But that was not the case.
So anyway, I had a breast strip or two.
I don't remember.
But I remember being well connected to Mother Nature.
And then I was walking around Chichen Itza just thinking that these people lived here.
And these people built this.
There's a book that someone recommended, Jamie, and I want to think they recommended it on the podcast, but it might be wrong, but I'm reading it right now.
I shouldn't say I'm reading it.
I'm lying.
I'm listening to it.
This is my sauna reading.
I listened to this thing in the sauna now.
It is called...
land so strange and it's about Cortez and about all these explorers that came over to America and their accounts of coming over to America and to Mexico you know fucking hundreds and hundreds of years ago and they talk about the people that originally visited the Maya when the Maya was around and it made me realize These fucking people brought disease to these people and
that's probably what was the end of the Mayans.
action bronson
100%.
joe rogan
Because we know for a fact that European diseases, when they came to North America, wiped out the Native American population.
People talk about Native American genocide.
It is absolutely true that genocide was committed on Native Americans.
That's 100% true.
But what's also true is that 90% of them were wiped out by disease.
And it wasn't like...
People have this idea that it was like smallpox in blankets.
That's not what killed them.
What killed them was just...
They had no immunity to all the diseases the Europeans came over here with.
And it killed 90% of the Indians that lived here.
So you've got to imagine the people that lived in Mexico, the Mayans, had probably the same immune system.
The same type of vulnerability.
And it probably killed all those people.
action bronson
Yeah, you hear in a lot of the tribes like Papua New Guinea and a lot of these different tribes that die off because the Westerners, the Americans, they're coming in and fucking bringing the plague, bringing the fucking plaga.
joe rogan
Yep, exactly.
action bronson
Straight up, killing them just off of being around them.
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
action bronson
They've left amongst themselves forever, right?
Yes.
Away from everybody else and they were fine.
joe rogan
And there's always been this wonder, it's always been a puzzle and a mystery.
What killed off the Mayas?
Because they're not there anymore.
They disappeared.
And if you go down to Mexico, if you go to Chichen Itza, you will see some people that are descendants of the Mayans.
And you can tell they're small people and they look like when the images and the hieroglyphs of the Mayans drew of them, they look very similar to them.
But there's something that happened, and they don't know what it is.
There's a lot of speculation, but I am willing to gamble that it was probably disease brought in by the Europeans.
When I was listening to this book and they were talking about these, they were there.
These Europeans gave this description, these people, with golden headdresses, and they were adorned with gold, and they had these incredible structures made out of stone.
So clearly, they saw these people when they were there in their prime.
And I guarantee you these motherfuckers brought the diseases.
action bronson
Haters.
Fucking haters.
That's what it comes down to, those cocksucker motherfuckers, man.
joe rogan
Well, they probably didn't even know what diseases were.
They didn't know they were carrying diseases.
You got water?
Yeah, that's all water, brother.
action bronson
Take some.
joe rogan
I'm good.
action bronson
You sure?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
action bronson
I always like to pour first for you.
joe rogan
All right.
I'm good, though.
Thank you, though.
I appreciate that.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
Hospitality.
That's the chef in you.
action bronson
Come on, man.
I'll never let you pour your own drink.
joe rogan
Have you ever thought about opening a restaurant?
action bronson
Yeah, but it would be...
I don't want to fucking do like some corny ass shit.
I want to do something that's like...
I don't know.
I can't really explain how I feel inside.
joe rogan
It has to be artistic.
action bronson
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
It has to be different.
It has to be probably just me cooking there whenever I want.
There's no menu.
It's just what I give you.
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
There's no set anything.
joe rogan
Right.
action bronson
You might fucking, who knows?
joe rogan
Right.
action bronson
You might see fucking Reggie Miller in there.
You know what I mean?
You never know.
joe rogan
There's something about that, right?
About a chef just cooking you whatever they want to.
action bronson
It's exciting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
I love when that happens to me.
That's like, man, that's like a blessing.
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
It's like you're getting this rare pair of sneakers or this rare fucking thing.
You know what I mean?
Like this object, this rare sculpture.
joe rogan
Well, there's a real connection, right?
There's like a real connection between you and the chef when that happens.
We ate at Red Ash recently.
This is a great Italian place that's in town.
We got all the comics together.
Tim Dillon was there, and Fahim Anwar, and Tony Hinchcliffe.
All these guys got together.
Lex Friedman.
We all sat down at this big table, and the waiter came over, and we're talking about ordering.
And then the waiter said, do you want me to just have the chef just start bringing shit out?
I go, fuck yeah.
Just whatever, man.
Let's just...
We'll just step back.
Just tell him.
Just make us some delicious food.
unidentified
I love that.
joe rogan
They brought her all these steaks and these pasta dishes and squid ink pasta with scallops and clams and mussels and shrimp.
Like, yes!
action bronson
Like motherfuckers were ready for that, right?
unidentified
Keep it coming!
joe rogan
Keep it coming!
Some delicious ravioli.
That's why I can't ever go full carnivore.
I always cheat.
action bronson
I love a fucking ravioli, man.
unidentified
I love it.
action bronson
I love stuffed pasta.
I love pasta, period.
That's been one of the hardest things to not eat every single day of my life, you know?
joe rogan
But if you could just limit it to occasionally, you're okay.
unidentified
No, I do.
action bronson
I have, and that's what's helped me.
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
A lot.
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
That's the key.
And also try, you know, to fuck myself with different soba noodles and shit like that.
Different healthy versions of that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Or healthy...
joe rogan
Healthier.
action bronson
Yo, what is even...
It's not even healthy.
That pasta's fucking good for you.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Well, it's good for your soul.
There's something about a delicious meal like that.
action bronson
And there's something to say for that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Glass of wine, delicious pasta meal.
action bronson
It makes you feel better about yourself.
joe rogan
But then, like, an hour later, I'm always like, oh...
God, this brick in my stomach, this glue, this paste that's working its way through my intestines.
action bronson
You just gotta fucking hit the tread.
You just gotta hit the treadmill for a little bit and just walk it off.
joe rogan
But my body's like, hey, fuckface, that's not real food.
Like, what you eating?
What you eating?
action bronson
You can't just have pasta as a meal.
You have to have meat.
joe rogan
You should.
Yeah.
But when I eat healthy, if I eat like just either fish or steak or wild game and vegetables, I just feel way better.
I just feel way better.
Whenever I eat like that, if I eat like a nice salad, some fresh vegetables and a thick steak, a nice piece of elk with some like maybe some asparagus or something, I just feel...
I don't feel like I did anything wrong.
Nothing feels off.
action bronson
Well, I've been trying to dial it in with the food and for me...
I've been doing all kinds of different shit, you know, where I was just doing vegetarian, just drinking juices for a little bit.
That's how this happened.
I took all this shit off by fucking with myself.
I was a science experiment with food with myself.
joe rogan
Do you remember day one?
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was day one?
action bronson
Day one was looking at that fucking, that scale and seeing it, and right then I had a green juice.
Celery, kale, apple, lemon, ginger.
And that was my dinner.
joe rogan
And then you said, okay, I'm moving.
action bronson
And then the next day, I walked.
I walked around the track like twice and my fucking lower back was hurting me like a fat piece of garbage.
Straight up my hips were hurting me.
I took the dog for a walk.
I was fucking like, yo, I can't do two laps.
I'm like, that's a number today.
That was the start.
joe rogan
What if I put 180 pounds on my back?
action bronson
Oh, gosh.
joe rogan
Look at if I put Jamie.
If I put Jamie in a fireman's carry and walked around a track, that is literally what you were doing.
action bronson
Yeah, man.
I've tried to lift.
Every time I do certain movements, I put the 130 on my 135 on my back.
And just walk with it.
Imagine.
I walk over the fucking bridge with the 100 pound medicine ball.
Williamsburg Bridge.
Just to make sure that's what I was fucking carrying around.
And see how hard this is?
It's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Dude, I have a weight vest that I put on.
It's only like 25 pounds.
And I do exercise.
I have another one that's 40. But even just the 25 pound one.
action bronson
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
When I do push-ups, It's really hard.
action bronson
It is.
joe rogan
Chin-ups are really fucking hard.
I'm like, wow, imagine.
This is only 25 pounds.
Like, if someone says, I'm 25 pounds overweight, you're like, ah, you could lose that.
No big deal.
It's just great.
I love it.
I love when people lose weight, man.
I love when people get healthy.
action bronson
My fucking mind is actually fucked.
I can't even believe that I had that much to fucking lose.
It's not even real, to be honest with you.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
action bronson
It kind of feels weird.
joe rogan
Well, we're going to talk a year from now when you look like Camille Nanjiani.
action bronson
I'm going to be fucking etched.
Bro, he inspired me.
I gotta have a call with him.
joe rogan
He looks good.
action bronson
I gotta talk to his chemist.
joe rogan
He's not gonna be honest with you.
action bronson
No, he won't be right, right?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I mean, I don't think he's being honest.
Well, I wouldn't say honest.
I just don't think he's being public with it.
I bet people who know him know.
He's a good guy.
He's not a bad person.
He's just a guy that...
action bronson
But that's shocking.
joe rogan
I fuck with that.
I like it.
He became something that he didn't used to be before, and apparently he gets hated on a lot because of it.
For no reason.
It's not necessary.
action bronson
It's because he looks hot.
joe rogan
I think he needs to work on those legs though.
action bronson
Legs is a problem.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't understand.
Like how much time are you missing?
action bronson
But have you, I mean, listen, I've seen like, I don't know where he's from, but I've seen that dude Jinder Mahal from fucking WWE. I don't know who that is.
He's a fucking, I think he's from Bombay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
And he has very small legs also.
I don't know if it's a thing.
joe rogan
Well, look at Jon Jones, one of the greatest fighters of all time.
He's got calves that look like my forearms.
action bronson
But you see his brothers?
joe rogan
Oh my god, super athletes.
action bronson
But I've never seen their calves.
I think he's the only one with those calves.
And he's...
joe rogan
Those calves are getting bigger, though.
He's up to 250 now.
action bronson
I fucking...
I see pictures of him yanking that fucking weight around.
He looks a fucking animal.
joe rogan
He's dedicated.
You know, John is not to be fucked with, and John's gonna move up to that heavyweight division, and he's gonna be prepared.
He's gonna be a real heavyweight.
action bronson
Are they gonna give him someone first, or is he gonna get the title shot right away?
joe rogan
It 100% depends.
action bronson
Is it gonna be a buildup?
It has to be a buildup, right, no?
joe rogan
It 100% depends.
No, it doesn't have to be a buildup.
The move is...
action bronson
Super fight right now.
joe rogan
Right now.
That's the move.
That's the big money move.
Because first of all, Francis Ngannou is poised to be the biggest thing in sports.
Not just in MMA, in all of sports.
Because he's a real life superhero story.
That guy was working in a sand mine.
A sand mine in Cameroon when he was 11 years old.
He was a little kid, and he was digging sand out.
Do you know what kind of muscles you develop doing that?
Plus, he's a genetic specimen.
A hyper-elite genetic specimen.
action bronson
Highly intellectual.
joe rogan
And the hardship he went through.
You know, the guy speaks three languages.
action bronson
It's unreal.
joe rogan
And the hardship he went through describing...
On my podcast, I don't know if you heard it, but he was...
action bronson
I did.
joe rogan
When he was talking about the harrowing journey of getting out of Africa and getting into Europe, it took 14 months, and then multiple times, more than seven times, they arrested him and sent him back to the fucking desert.
So he's in the middle of the fucking Sahara Desert, where you could easily die, and he managed to get back again to Morocco and try it again, and they sent him back again.
They sent him back seven times.
Dude, he's something special.
And then you have the fact that he had one fight with Stipe and it didn't work out well.
He gassed out.
He thought he was just going to blow him out of the water.
But Stipe had a great game plan, figured him out.
action bronson
Stipe's chin was unbelievable.
joe rogan
Amazing.
action bronson
A bunch of those shots would have dropped any other man.
joe rogan
Most men.
action bronson
Like Francis hit him with some shit.
joe rogan
Some big shit.
Yeah, hit him with some shit.
action bronson
But he was really young in the game.
Francis was very green.
joe rogan
He'd only been doing MMA training for like six years.
action bronson
Yeah, he was just trying to fucking pounce them.
joe rogan
Yeah, he just was trying to throw haymakers.
But then he got to where he is now, where he's like...
He's calm and technical and precise.
That team that he's got now, that team at Extreme Couture.
action bronson
Kamaru also in the corner, right?
joe rogan
Yes, that was huge.
Tell him to calm down.
Stay calm.
action bronson
I love Usman.
joe rogan
I love Usman, too.
action bronson
I think he's a fucking great fighter, man.
A lot of people hate on him, yeah.
I love Masvidal also.
But yeah, they hate on him because he's great, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why they hate on him.
They hate on him because he's special.
action bronson
I love a lot of fighters, man.
I love it all.
joe rogan
I love it all, too.
action bronson
Really, I'm just a genuine fan.
That is the main sport that I follow at this point in my life.
For the past five years, I'd say.
joe rogan
You coming to Florida this weekend or what?
action bronson
I'm going to fucking try my hardest, man.
I'm going to try my hardest.
I have to talk to my boss.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, I get it.
I get it.
Well, if you want to bring her, too.
action bronson
Nah, she won't come.
joe rogan
No?
unidentified
Nah.
joe rogan
It's going to be a full arena too.
action bronson
I know.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
They've never done that in a year.
They haven't done that since last March.
So it's going to be a year and a month since there's been a full arena.
And of course it's in Florida because Florida is out of fucks.
They gave all the fucks away last May.
action bronson
In Jacksonville.
You know, like, honestly, I don't know, man.
What the fuck am I going to do there?
joe rogan
What are you going to do?
You're going to watch the fights.
After that, what am I going to do?
unidentified
Just get out of here.
joe rogan
Get to the airport.
action bronson
I have to fly into the arena and just fucking drop me at the seat.
joe rogan
Do you remember that time that dude, that fan man, he had like a parachute and a fan dropped in on Holyfield versus, was it Holyfield Bow?
unidentified
Yeah, bro.
joe rogan
Was it Riddick Bow in Holyfield?
action bronson
I think it was Bow, right into the fucking ring.
joe rogan
That was crazy.
action bronson
That's crazy that it happened, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was crazy because it was outdoors.
I think they did it outside at Caesars Palace in Vegas.
action bronson
Yes, yes, yes.
joe rogan
Remember they used to have a lot of those fights outdoors?
action bronson
My favorite.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are great.
action bronson
I love those outdoor fights.
joe rogan
Those outdoor fights were wild because sometimes it was hot as fuck out there, too.
action bronson
A lot of Julio Cesar Chavez fights out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Do you know Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. is fighting Anderson Silva?
action bronson
I saw that.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
action bronson
I did see that.
I don't know.
I mean Anderson Silva is definitely good with his hands, but his jaw is gone.
His jaw is gone.
You tap that shit and he's fucking going down.
He's the most elite dude, but it's done.
joe rogan
He was.
Time wins.
action bronson
Exactly.
In this sport...
Your jaw doesn't last.
joe rogan
No.
action bronson
And once you look old, you look old.
There's no going back.
You can't come back from those knockouts.
Just can't.
joe rogan
No, once you start getting cracked.
action bronson
Right?
joe rogan
Has there been anybody?
No, not really.
It happened to Chuck Liddell.
action bronson
He fucking looks bad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When those guys, when their ability to take a punch goes away, it's...
There's not much they can do because the sport kind of requires you to eventually get hit.
action bronson
Like I was watching some Shogun highlight today that they fucking put up and it was Shogun knocking Liddell out.
Looked bad after that.
joe rogan
Well, he got knocked out by Rampage.
action bronson
Yeah, that was bad too.
joe rogan
He got knocked out by Rashad.
Rashad knocked him out with one punch.
He got knocked out by a lot of people and he got knocked out by Rich Franklin.
After a while, man, the body- Just a lot of KOs.
But in his day, man, Chuck Liddell was the- Fiercest motherfucker ever because he would he didn't give a shit if you punched him He didn't he literally didn't give a fuck.
He waded through the fire just to get to you He has such confidence in his chin and his power that he just waded through bombs just to get to you just to touch that chin And once he got guys he'd be like what the fuck?
He had ultimate confidence in his ability to destroy people and the way he did it was so ferocious He made the sport.
action bronson
100%.
I was just going to say he's like the logo almost.
He's the logo of this.
joe rogan
When he rose to the top in the early 2000s, when he was the fucking Iceman, that was just when everybody was starting to tune into the sport.
That was just when Forrest Griffin and Stefan Bonner had that crazy main event on the Ultimate Fighter.
action bronson
I was watching that in the kitchen when I was working in Forrest Hills, Queens in the fucking kitchen on Spike on a TV this small.
unidentified
Wow.
action bronson
I watched that whole shit.
joe rogan
That made the sport.
action bronson
I really did.
joe rogan
That fight made the sport, and then Chuck Liddell really made the sport because those guys were good, but with Chuck Liddell, those guys fought a crazy battle, and it was basically a draw.
It was basically a draw.
I mean, one guy won it, but let's be honest, it was basically a draw.
And they gave contracts to both guys because of that.
But Chuck was murking motherfuckers.
Just murking people.
And good guys too.
Guys like Babalu, Tito Ortiz.
It didn't matter who the fuck you were.
In that era, when Chuck was in his prime, he was just a destroyer.
But that doesn't last.
You can only be that guy.
Anderson was that guy for many years.
But you can only be that guy for a certain number of years and then the wheels fall off.
And that's just the sport.
That's the game they play.
It's a crazy game.
action bronson
And everyone that steps into the cage is a fucking man.
You know, they're animals.
joe rogan
Or a woman.
action bronson
You know what I mean.
joe rogan
That woman who's fighting this weekend, Zhang Weili.
action bronson
Bro, I was just going to say it.
I love Zhang Weili.
That fight with Joanna was unfucked.
That's like one of the best.
I watched it today.
joe rogan
One of the best fights of all time.
Joanna had a football growing out of her forehead.
action bronson
Rahman shit.
It was crazier than Haseem Rahman.
It was crazier than him.
joe rogan
Because it's on a girl.
It's crazier to see a little girl like Ioana.
action bronson
Yo, that's nuts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
That fight was nuts.
It could have gone either way, too.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
action bronson
It really could have.
joe rogan
Yeah, it could have gone either way.
That easily could have gone to Ioana.
action bronson
I've come to that conclusion.
I like both of them.
joe rogan
I watched it again two days ago.
Yeah, it was amazing.
action bronson
Tremendous.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I watched fights like that in the gym.
Just crazy wars.
When I'm feeling tired, just watch that show.
Like, for cardio, there's nothing better.
That and the John Wick scene where he kills everybody in the bathhouse.
action bronson
You see how fucking John Wick passed me.
I'm not like a John Wick guy.
I gotta see these things.
Is it good?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
You wanna get pumped up?
action bronson
I miss the Bourne Identity shit.
joe rogan
Bourne Identity is great.
action bronson
I miss Wick.
joe rogan
Borandini's great.
action bronson
What did I like?
joe rogan
John Wick is the next, next level.
The John Wick...
action bronson
Blade.
joe rogan
Blade's great.
action bronson
Yeah, I fuck with Blade 1. Blade 1, yeah.
joe rogan
Blade 2 and 3, they get a little sloppy.
But Blade 1 is the shit.
Wesley Snipes was awesome.
action bronson
Smart guy.
joe rogan
I don't know why they never brought him back as Blade.
When Marvel Comics are doing all these different movies, right?
They're doing Doctor Strange.
I put it on Twitter.
I put it on Twitter a while back that they need to have Wesley Snipes come back as Blade.
Are you kidding me?
action bronson
It's like a fucking layup, in my opinion.
In my opinion, that's a layup.
joe rogan
Just give him a chance to get into, I don't know what kind of shape he's in right now, but just give him a chance to get jacked again.
action bronson
Come on.
joe rogan
Get him on that Kamali Nanjiani shit.
unidentified
Shit.
action bronson
We know a guy.
unidentified
Let's go!
action bronson
Did you see the Coming to America shit?
The second one?
joe rogan
I did see it.
I heard it wasn't as good as the first one.
action bronson
Wasn't happy.
joe rogan
No, I didn't see it.
action bronson
The barbershop scenes were funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, listen.
action bronson
Those are always good.
joe rogan
Eddie Murphy's still Eddie Murphy.
action bronson
He's tremendous.
joe rogan
And Arsenio Hall's still Arsenio Hall.
action bronson
Arsenio killed it.
He's a funny guy, man.
joe rogan
But...
action bronson
I love Arsenio.
joe rogan
But Blade, they could bring back Blade.
action bronson
They need to bring back Blade.
joe rogan
Just give him another chance, folks.
Come on, Hollywood.
action bronson
I think it would be a smash.
unidentified
Yes.
action bronson
In this climate?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Bring him to 2021. Like, all the movies...
action bronson
Like, they literally drop movies in your house.
jamie vernon
What was somebody else playing?
joe rogan
Ah, come on!
action bronson
Movies get dropped right to the house.
That would fucking be massive.
You just fucking buy Blade right there.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
I'll give you a suggestion.
Other than Wesley Snipes, I think it should be Wesley Snipes.
That's choice number one.
Michael Jai White.
action bronson
Okay.
joe rogan
Michael Jaiwai can pull out Blade.
action bronson
He's good at karate, right?
joe rogan
He's fucking real good.
Real legit.
What is this?
action bronson
I forgot.
Mahashara Ali.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
What does it say?
Kevin Feige?
Is that what you're saying?
Present.
Kevin Feige.
Announce that.
What does it say?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
It's blocked by an ad thing, man.
joe rogan
Oh, these motherfuckers.
Yeah, he's amazing.
action bronson
Announced that Blade, who's been- This is okay.
I'm okay with this.
He's amazing, this dude.
joe rogan
Would be rebooted.
Oh, shit.
When is this?
action bronson
He looks like a young Wesley right here.
jamie vernon
They haven't announced a date for a movie, but- Can you give me another picture of Kevin?
action bronson
That looks like a young Nino Brown right there.
joe rogan
What was he in?
jamie vernon
A lot of things.
He won, like, Oscar recently.
joe rogan
Oh, I know that, dude.
He's fucking great.
action bronson
Exactly.
I'm fine with that.
If they don't have Wesley now...
joe rogan
Oh, fuck yeah.
He's gonna be played?
action bronson
That's gonna be sick.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Alright, I'm in.
Either way, I think you should have gave Wesley a job.
action bronson
Wesley should be in it as the father figure or something.
joe rogan
Blade doesn't age, right?
Isn't that the whole thing?
Because he's a daywalker, he's like part vampire.
Other people get old, he doesn't get old.
Isn't that part of the deal?
They keep pumping him up with that vampire blood?
action bronson
Bro, I didn't even know it was a Marvel movie.
I just knew it was Wesley Snipes and that shit and I had to see it.
joe rogan
I was a fan of the comic book back when I was a kid.
It was one of my favorite comic books.
action bronson
I didn't even know.
joe rogan
In the comic book, he had knives that were made out of teak.
They were made out of wood.
He would stab these fucking vampires with wood knives.
That fucking movie was great, though, man.
That opening scene, that's one of the greatest opening scenes of any fucking movie ever.
When Tracy Lords picks up that dorky surfer kid, that dorky California kid, he's like, uh, cool.
And she takes him to this fucking vampire bloodbath.
and the blood starts spraying out of the scene.
He thinks he's at a disco and he's going to get some pussy.
He's with Tracy Lords, who's one of the hottest porn stars of all time.
And so all of a sudden they're at this place and everyone's dancing and shit and people start pushing him around.
It's like, what the fuck?
What's going on?
And then some blood hits his face.
He's like, what is this?
And he looks up and the sprinkler system is spraying blood and then the fangs come out and they're all dancing.
You're like, what is this movie?
And then they're all freaking out because then Blade shows up.
They're like, oh shit, it's the Daywalker.
Bro, that's one of the greatest opening scenes of any movie ever.
And Wesley Snipes was perfect in that role.
unidentified
Perfect.
action bronson
Did you ever see Belly?
jamie vernon
I did see Belly, yeah.
action bronson
That's a good opening scene in Belly too.
joe rogan
That's a good opening scene too.
action bronson
It's not fucking with that one, no.
jamie vernon
They made Blade after Wesley Snipes tried to get a Black Panther film made in the 90s.
Did not get that off the ground.
joe rogan
They're talking about recasting that.
Some people say that you should never recast it.
And some people say that you should recast it.
Like, I don't know why they wouldn't recast it.
I don't think it's...
I don't think you should just let that role die.
Because that movie was a good movie.
Like, Black Panther was a fun comic book movie.
And for black people, it was the first movie where you had a black superstar, a black superhero, all black cast, in a black universe.
Like, literally a whole universe.
And...
I know that Chadwick died and everybody's out of homage to him, they don't want, out of respect to him, they don't want it to be recast, but I think you wait some time and then you reboot it and you find someone who's going to do it justice.
That's what I think.
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think it's a great movie, man.
It's a great premise.
It was a fun movie.
action bronson
Yeah, of course it was.
It was beautiful.
joe rogan
They've rebooted Spider-Man like a hundred times.
action bronson
Well, I was going to say, I never thought that there should be another Batman than Michael Keaton.
And then fucking, here we go, fucking Christian Bale.
I end up liking him a lot.
unidentified
How about the Hulk?
joe rogan
How many Hulks have they had?
action bronson
I only thought there was one.
I only thought Ferrigno.
I only thought who was it.
I didn't know there was more than one Hulk.
joe rogan
Well, they had Edward Norton.
Before that, they had Eric Bana, right?
action bronson
Oh, yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
Was he the first one?
Was Eric Bana the first one?
action bronson
Nah, I think it was Lou Ferrigno.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for TV, yeah.
Lou Ferrigno was the first one for TV. That's the only one I know.
But when the Hulk went to CGI, the first guy I think was...
action bronson
Why didn't they give him the call?
Why didn't they give Lou the call?
I want to know that.
joe rogan
Because Lou was the Hulk.
He was never Bruce Banner.
action bronson
Oh, he couldn't be the normal guy.
joe rogan
Right, he wasn't the normal guy.
action bronson
Gotcha.
joe rogan
Yeah, the normal guy was not jacked.
unidentified
Now I understand.
joe rogan
Lou is like...
action bronson
Imagine Lou...
joe rogan
He's still jacked!
action bronson
You just took the green off of him and he was just the normal guy.
joe rogan
Dude, I met Lou in the early 2000s.
He was still ripped.
action bronson
Of course he's ripped.
joe rogan
He's a big fella.
action bronson
He's ripped forever.
joe rogan
So that was like, when I met him, it was almost 20 years ago, and he was still jacked.
What does Lou Ferrigno look like today?
I bet he's still jacked.
action bronson
He probably doesn't have the mass, but he's still ripped.
joe rogan
Probably not close, but probably still massive.
You're saying massive?
Massive, yeah.
action bronson
Well, he's always going to be big.
He's fucking like 6'5", right?
joe rogan
Yeah, but he's...
I think he's still jacked.
action bronson
Yeah, he definitely was stacked up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
No, that's not...
joe rogan
Does it show?
unidentified
It's not him today, but this is the most recent photo on his Instagram.
Oh, come on!
action bronson
That's not now.
joe rogan
What year is that?
jamie vernon
Three hours ago, it says.
joe rogan
No.
action bronson
That's 93. Oh, there he is, right there.
joe rogan
There's a picture in the middle.
Go to that video.
action bronson
He looks like Jeff Garland.
joe rogan
What does it say?
action bronson
He looks like Nick Saban and Jeff Garland mixed...
joe rogan
Imagine Lou Ferrigno plays his brother on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
action bronson
Yo, that's incredible.
joe rogan
What is he saying here?
jamie vernon
That's happy health day.
World health day.
joe rogan
What are you doing?
You're at the bottom.
action bronson
He has some traps.
Let's see the traps.
unidentified
It gives you a happy feeling about yourself and knowing that you're connected with yourself.
But if you're thinking about other people's problems, how bad you feel about yourself.
But the important thing about being happy, the most important thing is about taking action for yourself.
Only you can take action.
People can pat you on the back.
You can talk all day long.
How great you are, how great this negative environment is affecting you.
But the problem is, it's you.
Think about your health.
We're here for a short time.
I mean, money is secondary.
Monetary thing.
Everything is secondary.
But the important thing is to feel good about yourself.
Be happy.
joe rogan
Hey, hold on a second.
How old is he?
He looks pretty fucking good.
action bronson
Man, that just touched me right there.
You see, I told you that shit.
It could be anybody at a moment, so fucking Lou Ferrigno just touched me.
I have to look inside myself again.
joe rogan
How old is he?
He's 69 years old.
action bronson
Bro.
65315 from Brooklyn.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Go back to his Instagram again, please.
That's amazing that he's 69 years old.
He looks that good.
See if you can get a video where it shows...
His face looks fucking tremendous, right?
action bronson
Ageless.
joe rogan
That guy's 16 years older than me.
Now go down and let's see if there's some video of him.
Yeah, look at that right there.
action bronson
Yeah, he's ripped.
joe rogan
Look at that picture in the right-hand corner.
action bronson
Still has some jackage.
joe rogan
Look at that.
He got his COVID shot.
He's jacked.
Look at him.
Frick no fit.
action bronson
Fucking get on the package.
Fucking two months will be good.
joe rogan
Oh look, he's got a sword.
What's that?
action bronson
That's not him.
joe rogan
What is that?
action bronson
Who the hell is that?
joe rogan
That's him.
Bro, that's him.
action bronson
Oh shit, that is him.
joe rogan
What movie's that from?
jamie vernon
Was that like Conan or something?
joe rogan
Was that a Conan movie where he fought Conan?
Or like, palled around with Conan or something?
jamie vernon
Doesn't say.
joe rogan
God, I'm trying to remember.
I think that's from one of the Conan movies.
action bronson
Imagine you replace Arnold Schwarzenegger's career with Lou Ferrigno.
joe rogan
Well, the thing about Lou is that he's deaf.
So he's got that, you can tell in his speech that he doesn't hear himself.
Like, he knows how to talk well, but you can tell there's something missing in the way.
action bronson
Well, just the look.
He's just so Brooklyn.
unidentified
Right, like Arnold Schwarzenegger from Austria.
Yeah.
action bronson
Arnold Schwarzenegger, he has that look.
He just looks like he's...
joe rogan
Hard European.
action bronson
Yeah, like he's...
There's no time period he could be from, right?
He keeps fucking Lufa Rigno.
Looks like he's from Brooklyn.
unidentified
He does.
action bronson
You can't fucking get away from it.
He just looks like a giant guy from Brooklyn.
joe rogan
Look at the size of him there.
unidentified
I'm fucking losing my mind.
jamie vernon
Camera trick, but still, it's so big.
joe rogan
Is that a camera trick?
jamie vernon
It's just an angle, really.
He was at Hercules.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that trick wouldn't work on me.
Like, if you did that with me, it's not going to look that big.
No, he looks fucking enormous.
But, oh, that's not real.
unidentified
That's not real.
joe rogan
Do you know who was the best Conan though?
It wasn't him.
It wasn't Arnold.
It was Jason Momoa.
Jason Momoa was the best.
action bronson
He was good in it?
joe rogan
He was the best Conan.
It was the most realistic to the movie or to the books, the Robert E. Howard books, but the movie was dog shit.
action bronson
Is he Samoan or Maori?
joe rogan
I do not know his ancestry.
I don't know.
action bronson
I think he...
I thought he...
He's from New Zealand, right?
joe rogan
I think he's Hawaiian.
action bronson
He's Hawaiian.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's Hawaiian.
Shit.
Yeah, but what is his family ancestry?
I wonder.
action bronson
He has an interesting look to him.
joe rogan
He's handsome as fuck.
action bronson
He's huge.
joe rogan
Gigantic.
Really friendly guy.
I met him at a Whole Foods.
action bronson
He's like 7 foot, right?
jamie vernon
His father's Hawaiian.
His father's German, Irish, Native American.
joe rogan
See if you can get Jason Momoa in Conan.
The movie sucked.
Unfortunately.
Because it started off great, and I was all in.
I was like, fuck yeah, because it was more realistic.
Because Conan, the original Conan, as painted by Frank Frazetta, and as written by Robert E. Howard.
See that on the left-hand side?
That was when he was Conan.
He was the best Conan ever.
The most realistic Conan.
Like right there.
Take that picture that you got your coaster over.
Look at that.
That's Conan, man.
That is the fucking Conan of Robert E. Howard, man.
It was amazing.
But the movie was dog shit.
Go to the one with him on the horse.
Look at that shit, son.
action bronson
He looks good.
joe rogan
Come on.
That's Conan!
They need to redo it.
They need to have someone write a good script.
Get someone who can really fuck...
Get Quentin Tarantino to write a goddamn Conan movie.
I said it!
action bronson
Let's go.
joe rogan
Let's go.
Quentin Tarantino, just give him a box of coke.
Like a laundry basket.
unidentified
A big box.
action bronson
Just one big box of it.
Send it to the house.
Just roll it in a box.
Open it.
joe rogan
Yeah, just open it.
action bronson
Sniff.
joe rogan
This fucking vault of coke and just let's go to war.
action bronson
Give him one of those great adventure dollars.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then give him all the Robert E. Howard books and just go, please, just read this.
Robert E. Howard was a super depressed, crazy guy who was like, I think, I believe he lived with his mom.
And just imagine that he was this warrior.
Imagine he was this barbarian just fucking and slaying his way and usurping thrones and taking over and becoming a king and slaying every man in front of him.
And he just described this completely unrealistic physical specimen of a man who had no fear and just destroyed wizards and demons and just went to hell and back.
They're great books, man.
And then the guy killed himself.
The guy wrote these books and I think he killed himself in his 30s.
I think he was pretty young when he did himself in.
I think he just was like a guy who was a writer who was seeking escape through this fantasy that he had created.
This character, Conan the Barbarian, that to this day resonates.
action bronson
That's what art is.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
He died for the art.
He lived on through those thoughts and those words.
action bronson
He died for the art.
He's a true artist.
joe rogan
Well, whatever it was that tortured him also inspired him.
You know, whatever pain that that guy went through that he was experiencing when he wrote those books.
I was in love with those books when I was a kid.
Because I kind of, I was just real depressed and lost and I didn't have any friends and we moved a lot when I was a kid.
And so I was always reading books and comic books.
I had to like lose myself in fantasy because my reality was not that fun.
And I remember those Conan books, man, they just resonated with me, man.
They were so good.
I read them all.
Cover to cover multiple times.
I have them to this day on my shelf, on my wall, looking at them.
I pick them up every now and then and just go over them.
action bronson
Yeah, I have shit like that too.
joe rogan
Those books, man, to me, they meant everything.
So when Arnold Schwarzenegger became Conan for the movies, I was like, meh.
This ain't really Conan.
action bronson
You weren't feeling it because you had such a fucking close connection to it that that wasn't the guy.
joe rogan
I was happy.
action bronson
That wasn't the guy that they were fucking describing.
joe rogan
I was happy that they were doing it.
I didn't even like the comic books.
The comic books were a little wack too.
They were okay.
Some people drew him well.
Some people didn't.
But the books.
The books have yet to be recreated.
And I thought they were going to do it with Jason Momoa.
When I saw him as Conan, I was like, that's the guy.
Because it's perfect.
He's giant, but not...
He's not a bodybuilder.
He's a guy who swings a sword and kills people all the time.
You know?
And there's just...
That movie with Conan was great.
I was happy that they were making Arnold Schwarzenegger, who became a superstar.
He's this big, giant guy.
I was happy they were making a Conan movie.
But it wasn't the same as the books.
It was more...
I want to say cheesy, but it's kind of cheesy.
More like Poppy.
The books were dark.
action bronson
You wanted to be raw.
joe rogan
He was splitting people's skull down to their teeth.
action bronson
That's why I like the raw Batmans.
When it started getting fucking dark, it started getting really good.
Like the Christopher Nolan Batmans.
Fucking sick movies.
joe rogan
Christian Bale.
He's awesome at everything.
That guy, he's one of those dudes.
You know, there's a few of those guys out there.
action bronson
Daniel Day.
joe rogan
Yep, Daniel Day.
action bronson
Him and Daniel Day.
joe rogan
Right?
There's a few of those.
Gary, what the fuck's his name?
Batman.
Not Batman, Dracula.
unidentified
Oldman?
joe rogan
Gary Oldman.
action bronson
Yeah, Gary Oldman.
joe rogan
Gary Oldman's another one of those guys.
action bronson
True Romance?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
action bronson
Come on.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
action bronson
Fucking crazy.
joe rogan
People forget about that movie, right?
action bronson
I love that movie.
unidentified
Woo!
action bronson
James Gandolfini.
unidentified
Woo!
action bronson
Rest in peace.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Shh.
action bronson
Yeah, I think they're redoing the fucking Soprano movie.
I think it's with his kid.
joe rogan
With his son, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Are they going to do a backdated when he was young?
action bronson
I believe so.
It's going to be interesting.
I watched Sopranos at least two, three times a year.
unidentified
How good was he?
action bronson
Like all.
joe rogan
How good was Gandolfini?
action bronson
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
When he died, he was another one.
When he died, I was like, no.
unidentified
No!
action bronson
It's fucking hard.
unidentified
No!
action bronson
It's hard to hear this shit, man.
But when you hear that he was eating good, you know, he was in Rome eating good, drunk, chilling, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was doing a lot of that, but he died so young.
action bronson
I know, man.
joe rogan
It was like 55 or something like that?
action bronson
Something like that.
joe rogan
That guy indulged.
But that was like, in that character, you saw that indulgence, right?
Like, that was real.
He really seemed like that guy.
Like, he seemed like a murderer who was also a good guy.
I mean, he was the perfect character for this anti-hero mob boss.
That was the first time there was a television show where the star, the head guy, the guy you loved, was a fucking murderer.
action bronson
Yep.
joe rogan
Who murdered Christopher Moltisanti.
He murdered his friend.
action bronson
To talk about Christopher Moltisanti, I met Michael Imperioli and he came on to my show and he's not fucking Christopher Moltisanti.
No!
joe rogan
He's an actor!
action bronson
But he's just a fucking gentle, beautiful man.
He brought me a fucking Buddhist bell.
He brought me incense that I still have to this day in my little shrine in my studio.
Bro, I fucking loved him.
It wasn't Moltisanti.
I thought I was meeting Moltisanti.
joe rogan
No.
Look at these fucking guys.
action bronson
I mean, Paulie is Paulie.
joe rogan
Paulie's amazing.
action bronson
He's definitely him.
I've heard Tony Sirico, he was 100%.
He was like fucking real deal.
He plays in the E Street band.
joe rogan
How crazy is that?
action bronson
You know, this is fucking next level shit.
Next level.
This is like...
joe rogan
Big pussy.
action bronson
That's an NFT right there.
I'll buy that.
Give me that shit.
That'll be my first one.
joe rogan
Can someone explain NFTs to me?
action bronson
45 people tried to explain it to me.
I said, fucking suck my dick.
unidentified
What do you mean?
action bronson
I have no idea what any of you are saying.
What does it mean?
joe rogan
We need to get that Beeple guy on.
That dude's made $69 million from an NFT. And I'm fucking laughing.
I don't understand it.
Do you understand it?
action bronson
I'd rather be simple, to be honest with you.
I'd rather be simple.
I'm happy being simple.
joe rogan
Someone was buying Jamie's tweets.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I sold a couple tweets.
action bronson
For how much?
Excuse me.
jamie vernon
It was a meme amount, but both of them for over like five grand.
joe rogan
But then someone took those.
jamie vernon
I think it was the person who bought them from me to try to create some attention, but there was a bid on it for a million dollars.
joe rogan
Come on.
jamie vernon
A couple days later.
action bronson
What the fuck is going on?
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
action bronson
What does that mean?
jamie vernon
That doesn't mean anything like that.
action bronson
Bro, I fucking lose my mind when I hear this.
It's like, what?
unidentified
I have so many things that could be this.
action bronson
What do you want?
What do you want from me?
Just take it.
What do they want?
Bro, I have fucking 75 things that I have right here on the phone.
Can you show me what this is?
unidentified
What can I tell?
action bronson
Just tell me.
joe rogan
I think it's more evidence that the simulation is real.
We're in a simulation.
action bronson
Why do some people get it and I don't?
Why don't I get it?
joe rogan
I don't think anybody gets it.
I think they fake it.
I think it's like quantum physics.
You know, like Richard Feynman said, if you think you understand quantum physics, you don't understand quantum physics.
action bronson
It's fucking ever-changing.
It changes.
It's the weather.
You don't know the fucking weather.
No.
How do they predict the weather when it's...
joe rogan
You know what's crazy to me?
Farmer's almanacs.
action bronson
I love those things, but why?
joe rogan
How did those things work?
action bronson
The agriculture, this, the rainfall, how accurate is that?
joe rogan
They would buy them.
action bronson
How did they measure that?
joe rogan
Farmers would buy those things and they would adjust their crops based on the farmer's almanac that was predicting the weather for like a year.
action bronson
Me, I know farmers that they do it on the moon.
Moon cycling, farming.
unidentified
Yeah?
action bronson
It's a new thing.
unidentified
Jamie, how the fuck do they, what is the, how does the farmer's almanac predict things?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
In my head, I was trying to get a good question to see if there would be a story about this.
Was there ever an impending storm that never came before that they got right?
And everyone was like, oh shit, April 2nd, get fucking ready.
action bronson
I think 1984 I was in Hurricane Gloria on TWA flight 495 coming in from West Palm Beach to JFK. Was it shaky?
I don't remember.
I was a child, but apparently we were in the air for seven hours.
unidentified
Whoa.
action bronson
My grandfather threw my mother out because they got into an argument over bagels.
joe rogan
Let's find out how accurate are Farmer's Almanac's. - Sorry, sorry.
jamie vernon
Typing that in at the beginning...
What's that noise?
unidentified
I thought you pulled up a video!
That was the wind.
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
For sure I have a contact eye.
action bronson
It's just me vaping.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
jamie vernon
Most scientific analysis of the accuracy of a farmer's almanac forecast has shown 50% accuracy.
action bronson
Oh, that's not bad.
jamie vernon
I've also seen it's been traditionally as high as 80%.
action bronson
You can flip the fuck, see, so it all varies.
joe rogan
80%?
action bronson
80 I could do.
joe rogan
80's amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
It's like a ball player.
Couple good years, one down.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
action bronson
It all averages out.
I think that's what it's coming to, just like an average thing.
joe rogan
Huh, but I wonder what it is.
Let's ask this.
How do farmers' almanacs predict?
jamie vernon
Right, so MeatEater blog here.
There's the claim that they're going to look into in this article.
joe rogan
Oh, this is MeatEater?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
jamie vernon
The claim is that they're able to make long-range weather predictions regarding regional temperature and precipitation.
unidentified
Huh.
jamie vernon
And I guess...
action bronson
But how?
joe rogan
How?
action bronson
Why?
joe rogan
Explain.
action bronson
Would it be...
joe rogan
Actual meteorologists don't agree with the pseudoscience of the almanacs.
action bronson
Is it the umbrellas there?
With the satellite?
You know what I'm talking about?
The one that's just floating?
joe rogan
The umbrellas?
action bronson
The ones that are floating right there with the weather ball.
joe rogan
Oh, well, this wouldn't be that, because they were doing this 100 years ago.
When it comes to those secret formulas that incorporate solar activity, weather experts will point out there's no scientific backing to those methods.
For those methods, this shouldn't come as a surprise, since that line of thinking is more than two centuries old.
Two centuries.
unidentified
Hmm.
jamie vernon
But the opposite of this is like that Curb episode where the weatherman always gets the weather wrong so he can go play golf.
And the meteorologist is always saying it's going to rain.
It never rains.
They're barely 50% right or wrong.
joe rogan
Meteorologists are that bad?
jamie vernon
In the show, they were.
action bronson
Do you want me to tell you what fucking works?
jamie vernon
It was an episode of Curb.
joe rogan
Oh.
action bronson
I'll tell you what works.
The fuckin' buoys in the ocean, surf line, fuckin' the surf report works.
Somehow they're able to predict whether it's gonna be three or four feet, five to six at what time, depending on the wind, this, current, and the buoy.
So, it's tangible.
There's things there that measure it.
This is bullshit.
That's bullshit because there's nothing there that's telling you why.
Where are they putting it?
Are they putting it into the fucking air?
And then that's how it's telling you?
joe rogan
I don't know what they're doing.
I have no idea.
action bronson
Well, that's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Based on how much rain they got the year before.
I mean, maybe there's like a cycle that they're anticipating.
action bronson
Well, no, rain I understand, but I'm talking about the prediction of when it's going to rain.
There's telltale signs, but things happen subtly.
joe rogan
Imagine if you lived 200 years ago and no one knew what was coming.
You really didn't know.
action bronson
But you knew because there was fucking telltale signs.
My grandfather told me when the tops of the trees fucking do this, it's gonna rain.
The top.
joe rogan
Mmm.
jamie vernon
They could tell it by the back of the leaves being like silver color.
It was about to rain.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
action bronson
Like a little dew?
jamie vernon
No, like, this is an Ohio thing, so I don't know what trees it was specifically.
It might be a specific tree, but, like, the leaves would, they'd start blowing, you could see they would be, like, almost white or silvery on the back.
joe rogan
There's something exciting about life before satellites.
There was something exciting about it, you know?
You really didn't know.
You didn't know what was coming.
action bronson
Bro, I remember when they put one on my block.
They put one on my block for the cable.
You drove, like, five blocks, and it was, like, this caged-in thing, and it was a satellite.
And we always thought it was like a ride.
Like, yo, let's go ride that thing.
And then later on, it ended up being like this fucking cable thing that they put in for the neighborhood.
joe rogan
Yeah, one of those giant satellite dishes.
There was a dude that I knew that had one in his yard.
And I, oh God, where was this guy?
This is such a blurry memory.
It might be bullshit.
I'm pretty sure.
It's real though.
I'm pretty sure I knew a guy who had...
I think I was in high school?
No.
It was after high school.
Anyway, this guy had a fucking satellite dish in his yard and he would have to adjust it to try to hit a certain place in order to get a signal.
But he can get television shows and weird things.
This is like the early day.
action bronson
No, that's real.
joe rogan
It was huge.
unidentified
It's huge!
joe rogan
I mean, the thing was like almost as big as this room.
action bronson
They had it in Brooklyn.
joe rogan
It was this enormous dish.
action bronson
They had it at my cousin's house in Brooklyn and they would get all kinds of foreign fucking news.
joe rogan
Yeah, weird shit.
action bronson
They would get the news from back home in Yugoslavia.
unidentified
Whoa.
action bronson
Yeah, exactly.
It was some crazy shit.
I remember that.
joe rogan
They were big-ass satellites.
action bronson
You had to have a backyard because you had to fucking have some big-ass...
You can't put it on the side of any house or building.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I remember back when DirecTV came along, you could get a chip, and the chip would give you all the pay-per-view on DirecTV all the time.
action bronson
We had that shit back in the day.
It was a black box.
My man's father worked for Pepsi.
I don't know how he got the black box, but he had the connection to the cable company throwing $50.
They hook it up.
You get all the porno.
You get all the pay-per-views.
So we were watching UFC back in the day.
We were watching all the WWF pay-per-views.
We were watching...
I wasn't.
We weren't.
We weren't.
I was watching mad porno shit.
You know?
Like, you used to have to go back and forth through the channels and find a tit.
You know, find them pumping a little bit and you get hard and...
You'd have to go, it was crazy.
And then one day you just fucking, you could press it and order it and I ordered the fucking porno at the house and they found out and it was like, it was a big deal.
Because they didn't understand.
What the fuck is going on?
joe rogan
It used to be back in the day that the biggest producers, the biggest distributors of porn was hotels.
That like Marriott and those kind of hotels.
Hilton.
But they were the biggest distributors.
Yeah, because like if you're a guy and you're on a business trip and no one's around, you're like, finally.
action bronson
Yeah, there's two things that you know, bro.
There's two fucking things you know when you're in a hotel.
Mario fucking Lopez.
When he comes on the TV. You turn the fucking TV on, it's Mario Lopez.
And porno, the adult zone.
And like Wolverine.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
That's it.
Yeah.
ESPN, maybe.
joe rogan
I think that for a while, I don't know if that's true now, because now I think the internet is the biggest distributor of porn, but I think for the longest time, it was hotels.
I think it was like Marriott.
action bronson
But there was something about buying it on a bigger screen.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Just sitting there watching the whole thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you couldn't pause or rewind it.
action bronson
Exactly.
Well, you have to sit through it.
Just deal with it.
joe rogan
You have to find the right spot to jerk off.
action bronson
Exactly.
Old school.
Old school shit.
Yeah.
You couldn't just pause.
No, you have to go back to your roots sometimes.
On your knees in the bathroom with a Hustler magazine.
joe rogan
Now these kids, they don't know.
These fucking kids are jerking off to their phones.
action bronson
It's fucking weird.
unidentified
Ridiculous.
action bronson
It's weird.
Then they're touching the phone, making the call, fucking having pizza with the fucking phone.
joe rogan
Animals.
action bronson
That's animalistic.
That's fucking, that's the virus.
That's what that shit is right there.
That's where it came from.
Honestly, I've touched so many hands.
joe rogan
Right.
action bronson
I don't know.
It's like...
joe rogan
How many dudes' sperm do you think you had on your hands?
action bronson
A lot.
Just fucking sperm.
Who knows if someone fucking wiped their ass and then handed me their hand.
joe rogan
100%.
action bronson
Woman might have fucking went in there and fucking did that thing, you know?
Yeah.
Who knows what motherfuckers do, and that's disgusting.
And that's disgusting.
Then I saw someone started wearing the Mizuno glove.
The baseball glove.
So when you give just a pound with the Mizuno on, it protects you.
joe rogan
That was Dice Clay's move.
Dice Clay's to wear weightlifting gloves.
action bronson
He just wear the glove, bro.
That was his thing.
joe rogan
He wore the weightlifting gloves back in the day.
action bronson
I fuck with just the dap.
Unless it's love, you hug, and you don't need to tell.
You just dap.
joe rogan
Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
Yeah, you gotta be careful.
Can't be too careful.
unidentified
Definitely not too careful.
action bronson
I get caught out there.
joe rogan
Well, one of the things that Fauci said when this thing was going on was that we're never going to shake hands again.
I was like, bitch, what are you talking about?
action bronson
It's ridiculous.
joe rogan
I'm going to shake hands.
action bronson
It's bizarre.
joe rogan
Is there a vaccine coming?
Yeah, okay.
Well, if everybody gets vaccinated and it works, you tell me no more shaking hands?
Like, just say that.
No more shaking hands?
What about hugging?
Can we hug?
No more hugging?
What do you want to turn us into?
action bronson
I think most people aren't even tuned into him.
Like, there's only a certain generation that don't even know who that fool is.
Straight up.
Kids don't know who that is.
Kids don't know who that is.
joe rogan
I think a lot of people know who he is.
action bronson
They do, but kids don't even fucking, they don't, it doesn't correlate.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
There's no such thing as not touching hands.
joe rogan
Well, it's just, it's not gonna work.
People are still fucking.
They're gonna fuck.
They're telling people to fuck with masks on.
action bronson
You have to fuck, it's bizarre.
joe rogan
People wear masks when you fuck.
action bronson
Bro, I can't fucking...
I can't even go to the store with the mask and breathe.
You're gonna tell me I'm gonna fucking breathe hard and have to wear the mask?
Right.
That's...
If you might as well put the belt on me also and fucking strap me up while I'm fucking.
joe rogan
We have a...
Do we have it in the other room?
The headgear?
The spaceship?
The helmet?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Reggie Watts is apparently gonna wear that shit on the plane unless he's been vaccinated.
action bronson
What is it?
joe rogan
It's like a spaceship thing you turn on as a fan and a HEPA filter.
jamie vernon
It's like...
action bronson
Oh no.
My god.
joe rogan
And it keeps, the fan keeps it from fogging up in there.
And you wear it and nothing gets in.
Nothing!
action bronson
Bro.
joe rogan
Everything gets filtered.
action bronson
What the fuck is going on in this life?
joe rogan
I think it's going to make us very, very appreciative when this is all over.
action bronson
I'm appreciative right now.
unidentified
Yeah, me too.
action bronson
I was appreciative before, but not as.
I'm more as now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, me too.
action bronson
More of.
joe rogan
For sure, more.
action bronson
Definitely.
joe rogan
Yeah.
In every way.
action bronson
It's almost like I found fucking him or her.
You know, like I found them.
Like I've been taken by something.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Like some spirit has entered me.
I feel regenerated and renewed, you know?
joe rogan
Well, you are renewed when you think about what you've done to your body.
You have a new lease on life.
You're a different human.
unidentified
I hope so.
joe rogan
What do you mean 100%?
action bronson
I'm taking those steps.
joe rogan
Listen, man, we worked out hard today.
You kept up every step of the way.
action bronson
Of course.
joe rogan
We made a real workout today.
That was real legit.
And you have a new lease on life.
You have a very fucking vigorous body now.
You're a different person.
action bronson
I'm a weapon.
joe rogan
You're a fucking weapon.
We threw some kicks today.
action bronson
Oh yeah, that's right.
I forgot about that.
joe rogan
You are a weapon.
action bronson
That was alright.
Honestly, working on the left, it was comical because it was so bad, but then when I went back to the right, it felt really strong.
You were right about that.
But I have to work on that because I can't be comically on the left.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could do it.
You just need a coach.
They'll show you how to do it.
You're a quick study.
There's a thing that I read about this, and it seems to apply to reality, that when you have a strong side, like if you have a dominant side, if you work on your other side, it actually helps your dominant side.
And some of the best fighters can switch hit.
Like, one of the greatest of all time, rest in peace, Marvin Hagler, was one of the greatest switch hitters of all time.
Because he could fight southpaw or orthodox just as effective.
He was so good.
And Terrence Crawford, one of the best alive today, same thing, can fight off orthodox.
One side or the other.
And many, many mixed martial arts fighters can do that.
So many fighters because that's in the traditional martial arts.
You're taught, especially the karate guys, you're taught to be able to fight from both stints.
Like Stephen Thompson, he fights just as good orthodox as he does southpaw.
He's coming in soon.
I'm excited to have him in here.
That guy's too nice.
action bronson
He's a nice guy, but he's a fucking animal.
joe rogan
He's a savage.
action bronson
Yeah, he's a savage in there.
joe rogan
57-0 as a kickboxer before he ever got into MMA. That's crazy.
Bro, he was lighting people on fire.
action bronson
I mean, that man is fucking, he's something else.
He's like one of those characters.
He's the fucking nice fucking killer.
joe rogan
Yeah, and, you know, people don't realize, like, you're seeing Wonderboy now at 36, 37 years old.
Like, he was in his prime more than a decade ago, you know?
That's when he was at his best.
It's incredible how much longevity that guy has and how good he is, you know?
He's a fucking killer.
action bronson
Yeah, some guys just last longer.
They're just built differently, you know?
joe rogan
It's also the style.
He's very difficult to hit.
action bronson
Why is Yoel Romero so fucking unbelievable?
Was he literally a fucking experiment?
joe rogan
I think he was an experiment.
action bronson
A Cuban experiment?
joe rogan
With the Russians?
Did you hear this story?
action bronson
I've heard it.
joe rogan
This is the story that Dana White told me.
He said he got injured in a fight.
They sent him to a doctor.
The doctor called him up.
He goes, where'd you get this guy?
He goes, he's a fucking specimen, right?
They go, no, no, no.
You don't understand.
Like, I've never seen a person like him.
He goes, I've been doing medicine for more than 50 years.
He goes, this guy's tendons in his eyes are three times larger than a normal person's.
It's like his whole body is like he's built different than a normal person.
He's like a perfect specimen.
action bronson
He might be derived from the stars.
He's the descendant of the stars, man.
I believe it.
I believe he's one of these people, man.
joe rogan
The Cuban athletics program.
It could have been that, too.
I think more likely that.
Because if you think about how much emphasis they put on sport in Cuba.
action bronson
For sure.
joe rogan
It was a big deal.
He was one of the best wrestlers to ever compete in MMA. Ever.
When he came over from wrestling to MMA, people were like, holy shit.
Because they knew what a fucking athlete this guy is.
And the crazy thing is, he hasn't lost a step.
He's in his 40s.
action bronson
It's unreal.
joe rogan
And he's shredded.
Like Anderson Silva, perfect example.
Anderson got into his 40s, you start to see it.
action bronson
Low round.
joe rogan
He looked different.
He looked different.
Yoel doesn't even look a little different.
He's still shredded.
action bronson
Shredded.
Anderson was never really ripped, right?
He was more like a rounded type of guy.
joe rogan
Well, he was pretty lean back in the day.
But he never had big muscles.
He was long.
action bronson
Yeah, he was longer.
joe rogan
He was 185 pounds, but he was like 6'2", 6'3".
But, you know, lethal.
Lethally accurate.
So good.
I had the honor to see his fights when he was in his prime.
And I was a fan of his before he ever got to the UFC, and I remember it was one of those fights when he fought Chris Lieben, his first fight in the UFC. I remember that.
I remember one of my friends was a gambler, and I would always give him advice, and he would bet on the fights.
I'd go, bet the house on the Brazilian.
I don't know, what are the odds?
Two to one?
It's stealing money.
It's stealing!
Because he was that good, man.
When he came over, I'd seen his fights over in England.
Oh my god.
Oh my god, he was good.
The Lee Murray fight.
I mean, he fucked up Tony Fricklin over there.
He was so good.
That was when Anderson was just an assassin.
Like, there was a few years, man.
But that's the thing about, like, the great fighters.
There's only a few years where they can maintain that RPMs.
You know, there's only so much the body can do.
It's a crazy sport.
You're out there beating the shit out of each other, and then you have to train, and in training you get beat up too.
action bronson
It's heavy on the fucking body, man.
Heavy on the brain.
Yeah.
joe rogan
The stress, too.
The stress of it all.
You know, it's not just the mind, like, you getting hit, but it's also the stress of the job.
It's like every couple months you're going to war.
Like, that's how you make your living.
You make your living in your underwear with these little tiny four-ounce gloves on.
And, you know, dudes are trying to kick you in the face and punch you in the face and strangle you.
It's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
It's a crazy life to fucking choose, but I love it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I love watching it.
There's nothing more exciting in sport, because it's the purest of all sport.
action bronson
It really is.
joe rogan
It really is.
action bronson
There's nothing else.
One-on-one, and that's that.
joe rogan
I wonder if any of these YouTubers are going to get into MMA. Because it's interesting, seeing Jake Paul...
action bronson
Everyone's choosing boxing.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean, there's nothing wrong with them choosing boxing.
And he's doing it smart.
Like, he's fighting people that are not quite good enough.
You know, like, the Nate Robinson guy was a good athlete, but not really a fighter.
action bronson
That's my guy, man.
Nick's.
I felt really bad about that.
joe rogan
Well, he just, he fucked up.
action bronson
He shouldn't have did this.
He wasn't ready.
He can't just jump right in there.
He got money.
If that's what he was in for, he got money.
That was that.
Askren, if he got what they said he got.
joe rogan
They said he got a half a million guaranteed, and then points, and then the pay-per-view was crazy.
action bronson
I'm happy for asking, fuck it.
He got knocked out.
Fuck, dad.
It's over.
Let him do what he gotta do.
He just took care of his family forever.
joe rogan
But a lot of people think that, you know...
action bronson
But that was fucking terrible.
joe rogan
It wasn't good.
action bronson
It was terrible.
joe rogan
Well, when you watch the punch, I mean...
action bronson
His hands are down.
His hands were down the whole time.
joe rogan
Well, Ben was just standing still.
That's part of the problem.
Also, Ben had a hip replacement.
action bronson
I know.
He doesn't look good.
He didn't look good.
joe rogan
He didn't look good physically.
If you go back and watch him compete in the Olympics...
action bronson
He looked good.
joe rogan
The body that he had back then, I mean, he was lean and strong.
You know, he was 191 pounds for that fight.
I mean, he fought in the UFC at 170. Yeah, he didn't look good.
So he's 21 pounds overweight.
action bronson
And it was not good weight.
joe rogan
No.
action bronson
It was all in the fucking tummy area, but...
joe rogan
I wonder if he's gonna...
action bronson
Fuck it.
He got money.
He was small.
It was a good business decision if that was the case.
Fuck it.
joe rogan
Well, the good...
Look, these Paul brothers, Logan and Jake, they're making some big money moves.
They're making a lot of money.
And they got everybody talking about him, including us.
Especially after that one-punch knockout.
And I was saying this to people.
People were trying to downplay who he is and what he does.
Listen, man.
I know when I see a guy who can punch.
I know when a guy can...
I've watched him when he knocked out Nate, and then when he knocked out Ben Askren.
That guy can fucking crack.
You do not want to get hit by him.
He can fuck people up.
That's real.
You can hate on him all you want, but you better recognize that guy can fuck people up for real.
And he's doing it under intense pressure.
On pay-per-view, for fuck's sake.
action bronson
With Snoop Dogg.
He's got the whole thing set up.
joe rogan
Snoop Dogg's doing commentary.
Mario Lopez is doing commentary.
action bronson
Back again in our lives.
joe rogan
And he talks a ton of shit and still knocks people out.
Mario's back in our lives.
You're right.
action bronson
He's been in my life for so long, bro.
joe rogan
Saved by the motherfuckin'.
Yeah.
It's kind of amazing.
Kind of amazing what these kids are doing.
And he's making a shitload of money.
action bronson
I want to be part of it.
I don't want to fight nobody.
What do you want to do?
joe rogan
Maybe you could rap in one of those.
action bronson
I don't want to rap either.
joe rogan
I just want to chill for money.
action bronson
I just want to chill there for money.
Like catch me at one of these zones.
Maybe I could cook.
unidentified
Ooh.
action bronson
I'll make a little zone where you can get the food.
unidentified
Triller, holler at your boy, Triller.
joe rogan
That's a good idea.
action bronson
Hey, listen.
joe rogan
You cooking some steaks?
action bronson
I'm available.
joe rogan
Ooh.
Why not?
action bronson
I'm available.
joe rogan
They could just cut back on one of them musical guests.
There's a little bit too much.
There's a little too much.
action bronson
What do they have?
joe rogan
Well, they had Ice Cube, and all those guys, and Snoop Dogg, and all those guys, and then they had Justin Bieber, and then they, what was the girl?
jamie vernon
Doja Cat.
joe rogan
Do you know who she is?
action bronson
Yeah, she's a new artist, she's popular.
joe rogan
They had her, they had some other people.
action bronson
I didn't get to go to fucking Chichen Itza because they said Justin Bieber, he fucking ruined it.
He said he shot the video at Chichen Itza and he fucking ruined the stairs.
unidentified
What?
action bronson
This is what I heard.
That's what they told me at Chichen Itza.
They closed it down because of Bieber.
joe rogan
What?
Ruin the stairs?
How'd he ruin the stairs?
action bronson
He fucking damaged it somehow.
And they shut it down.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
Because he shot a video there?
action bronson
Yep.
joe rogan
Have you seen the video, Jamie?
Don't lie.
action bronson
I was told this by a local.
joe rogan
I want to see.
action bronson
Can you confirm if it was a real tale?
jamie vernon
There's something to this.
action bronson
Justin Bieber, Chichen Itza?
joe rogan
That's horrible if that's true.
action bronson
Tell me a fucking...
joe rogan
Because I went up those stairs.
It's amazing.
Justin Bieber asked to leave Mexico's Tulum ruin site.
Justin Bieber and his entourage were asked to leave the Mayan archaeological site of Tulum after he apparently tried to climb onto or among the ruins.
action bronson
They shut it down.
I couldn't go because of this.
unidentified
Oh my god.
action bronson
This is where I was.
joe rogan
Bieber booted from ruin site.
Look at him.
action bronson
Hi.
jamie vernon
It wasn't recent though, just so.
joe rogan
How many bodyguards does that guy have?
action bronson
When was it?
unidentified
Just since 2016. That's when I was there.
joe rogan
They got you.
He's surrounded by bodyguards.
That's crazy.
How many bodyguards does that guy travel with?
jamie vernon
All of them.
joe rogan
All of them.
Yeah, that's the answer.
The correct answer is all of them.
Do you hear that his bodyguards had to check on him in his sleep, he said recently, because he was doing so much drugs that they had to make sure he had a pulse?
So they would check on him while he was sleeping.
action bronson
Bro, these fucking kids, man, they got to stop this shit.
joe rogan
These fucking kids.
action bronson
I don't know what the fuck they're taking, but it's fucking, it's like Nuke.
It's like from RoboCop, Nuke.
joe rogan
What was Nuke?
action bronson
When they shot it in the neck, remember?
The bad guy, he fucking, everyone was hooked on Nuke.
They're fucking sniffing some shit.
I don't know what they're sniffing or doing.
joe rogan
Who's the shit in Wonder Woman?
Where the dude sniffs it?
unidentified
Nah!
action bronson
It's like, it could be Nuke!
joe rogan
Oh, there it is.
action bronson
Look at this.
joe rogan
Robocop Nuke.
Oh.
action bronson
Everyone was trying to get a vial in Nuke.
Damn, I might get that tattooed on me.
joe rogan
Nuke.
Ooh, maybe you should.
action bronson
Maybe.
I like the skull.
I like skull imagery.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Look at Robocop.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
What happened with the new Robocop?
Where the fuck did that guy go?
action bronson
It wasn't the same.
This CGI was shitty.
Sometimes there's a thin line between good and bad, and bad is sometimes better than mediocre and good, you know what I mean?
Bad is really good sometimes.
joe rogan
Right, because it's funny.
Like old King Kong movies.
unidentified
Exactly.
action bronson
I love that shit.
That is charm.
joe rogan
Ares, God of War, in Wonder Woman.
Remember in the first Wonder Woman, the good one, he had this thing that he would sniff?
They had created some...
action bronson
It's like smelling salts?
joe rogan
Yeah, the Nazis had created this, like, purple dust.
action bronson
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
And they sniffed this purple dust.
And it became a monster.
action bronson
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Remember that?
action bronson
Crocodile?
You know about crocodiles?
joe rogan
That's that shit that, like, makes your bones exposed.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Dr. Poison.
Is that what it was?
joe rogan
From the first Wonder Woman movie.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I got Dr. Poison, Enemy of Wonder Woman.
He gained metahuman power by inhaling a special gas.
joe rogan
Yeah.
See?
He would crack these things open and sniff it.
action bronson
Fucking nitrous.
unidentified
Ah!
action bronson
Straight up taking that fucking balloon.
joe rogan
Skin would go black and have all these fucking, like, lightning bolts in it and shit.
All those veins would go dark.
It would turn him into a monster.
It became super-powered.
And then became a god.
And then he had to duke it out with Wonder Woman.
action bronson
And who won?
joe rogan
Wonder Woman did.
Of course she did.
It's her fucking movie.
action bronson
Of course she fucking did.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
jamie vernon
Who won?
joe rogan
Who won?
action bronson
That's how you know you're stoned.
Who won?
joe rogan
Imagine if that dude beat Wonder Woman's ass like, what?
action bronson
They couldn't make a sequel.
It was over.
They just killed it right there.
joe rogan
They killed Wonder Woman at the very end.
It's like No Country for Old Men.
The ending ends and everybody's like, what the fuck just happened?
action bronson
Yeah, man.
Those movies are nuts.
joe rogan
Those movies are nuts.
When they trick you.
action bronson
Coen Brothers?
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Sickos.
joe rogan
When a movie ends and then you just go, what?
action bronson
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
You got me.
action bronson
If they're making anything new, holler, please.
joe rogan
I'm available.
action bronson
I don't know what I could play, but please just put me inside.
I'll fucking be the...
I'll sell someone a beer.
joe rogan
Carry a bag.
action bronson
Whatever.
joe rogan
Carry the money back.
action bronson
Just put me in the shit.
joe rogan
Those guys make some fucking incredible movies, man.
action bronson
For real, man.
joe rogan
Big Lebowski?
Come on.
action bronson
I mean, classic.
joe rogan
Classic.
Classic.
I used to judge people based on Big Lebowski.
That was one of my moves.
I'd go, tell me what you think about the Big Lebowski.
And they'd go, that movie's stupid.
I'd go, oh.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
action bronson
They don't get life.
joe rogan
That's the wrong answer.
action bronson
They don't get it.
But then there's dudes that are overboard that dress like him and try to live exactly like that.
That's a little bit nuts.
Yeah, that's a little bit nuts, too.
unidentified
That's sad.
action bronson
That's a little bit nuts.
joe rogan
Somewhere out there is a dude dressing like Blade, driving around in a Dodge Charger with a fucking samurai sword.
action bronson
I would like to dress like fucking Blade, I swear.
I thought about it, you know?
Sometimes I dress like fucking Blade and just jump in the fucking car with the driving gloves.
joe rogan
Do you know how many dudes dressed up like Bruce Lee?
action bronson
Oh, everyone.
joe rogan
It was a thing, right?
Everybody had kung fu outfits.
That was the thing, man.
Dudes would walk around with kung fu outfits on, with them little tiny shoes, those little kung fu, the little thin soles.
Yeah, that was a thing.
For a long time, guys dressed up like Bruce Lee.
Kung-fu outfits were the shit.
The buttons, the rope.
action bronson
Yeah, I like that.
I like that.
joe rogan
They look cool.
action bronson
That's beautiful.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
action bronson
It's very elegant.
It's made like of silk.
joe rogan
Something.
I don't know.
action bronson
I believe it's silk.
I believe.
It's not a kimono, but it's the other version of that.
It's like a gi.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Well, no, gis are thick.
Thick, heavy shit.
action bronson
Yeah, but like a light gi, if there was such a thing.
joe rogan
Like a karate gi.
action bronson
Like a spring gi.
joe rogan
Yeah, because they call, in Brazil, they call jujitsu geese kimonos.
action bronson
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
action bronson
Isn't there some sort of correlation between Japan and Brazil?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, for sure.
Jujitsu was originally Japanese, and they brought it down, Count Maeda brought it to Brazil in the early 1900s and taught it to Carlos Gracie and Elio Gracie.
And then Ilio and then Carlson.
And they fought all these no-rules fights back in the day.
And essentially, Ilio and Carlos created Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
And Carlson was like the champion of the family.
There was guys who beat Ilio and then Carlson would go and beat those guys.
Carlson was a bigger, stronger guy.
They had some incredible connection with Japan because Japan brought them the art of Judo and Jiu Jitsu and then they refined it and turned it into Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and became, in my opinion, the most important family in the history of martial arts is the Gracies.
They're number one.
They revolutionized martial arts.
They changed what people thought was possible.
When Hoist Gracie was strangling people with his legs on pay-per-view, people were like, what the fuck is happening?
He got Dan Severin, who's a giant-ass, huge wrestler, and he put him in a triangle and made him tap.
Everybody was like, what in the fuck?
What did he just do?
He just tapped him out with his legs!
With his legs!
action bronson
Yeah, that was unbelievable.
joe rogan
Amazing!
action bronson
You're right.
joe rogan
Amazing.
That's what I believe.
What do you think about Aliens?
action bronson
So many things.
joe rogan
You been paying attention to the news, all this alien shit that's happening?
All those pentagons confirming all this UFO footage?
action bronson
No, I haven't.
You know, I'm out of touch with so many things, but I'm in touch with so many things, you understand?
Like, I felt this coming.
joe rogan
Did you?
action bronson
Oh yeah, I mean, all this shit's about to hit the fan.
joe rogan
You think so?
action bronson
At some point.
joe rogan
I hope so.
unidentified
So exciting.
At some point.
joe rogan
I am so biased, rather.
action bronson
I'd rather this type of thing than fucking all the negative garbage that's out there.
Why not fucking rile things up with this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, I agree.
action bronson
You know?
joe rogan
I agree.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
There's so much negativity.
But I think this negativity is accentuated by social media, but then really the fucking pandemic was gas on the fire.
And now everybody, they're more interested in being negative than anything.
They're more interested in...
Looking at the worst aspects of people, instead of like granting them forgiveness, instead of just like going, you know, people make mistakes.
Everybody's like, burn them down, cancel culture, fuck you.
Yeah, it's so anti-human.
action bronson
I'm just trying to fucking stay low, man.
I want to be away from all that garbage.
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
I try to keep my mind just, you know, with these...
Those things you just showed me with those characteristics from the...
joe rogan
The four agreements, yeah.
action bronson
I'm trying to live this way.
I'm trying to...
A path that I'm just...
I'm happy.
I want to be happy.
I want to live my life to the fullest and have the people around me very happy.
Yeah, that's possible.
Live to the best.
joe rogan
It's possible in a small group.
And if all the people that are in these small groups also live this way, then these small groups can come together and we could live pretty much like that as a nation, as a country, as a world even.
We just have to understand what this is all about.
It's like you can create conflict if you want.
You can just live and dwell in negativity if you choose, but you don't have to.
And you could choose to be positive.
action bronson
You have the choice.
joe rogan
It's hard.
It's hard when you feel like you got no hope and your life is not what you want it to be and you're not where you want to be.
It's hard for a lot of folks to see past that.
action bronson
It's true.
But I feel like everyone has to know that they have choices.
That there's not like, not every door is closed.
There's choices to be made.
joe rogan
That's why I think what you've done with your body, what you've done over the last year, was showing that you can make positive choices and it really can change your life.
It really can.
We talked about this today that you were inspiring people when we were working out, but I really think it's probably hard to know how much you inspire people.
I think you probably inspire thousands and thousands of people to change their lives and to live a better life.
More healthy life.
Because they saw you doing it.
action bronson
For sure.
Like, I was definitely an example of...
I don't even like overindulgence and just fucking living to the fullest without any regard, with zero regard, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Just fucked up.
But it was fun, you know?
But it's not the right thing to do.
So I wanted to show myself that I could do this.
Like, I don't have to fucking just be, you know, a fucking eating animal.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, you carry it with you on the road.
action bronson
I have to.
joe rogan
My manager got a hold of me, and she was like, Action Bronson is looking for a gym.
I'm like, fuck yeah, he is.
Fuck yeah, he is.
I'm like, let's bring him down to the honor gym.
We got gyms.
action bronson
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
We got plenty of room.
I go, let's work out.
Let's do something.
action bronson
I love that.
I mean, listen, that's exactly what I needed.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, it was cool, man.
action bronson
Wolf, that was a good experience, bro.
joe rogan
John Wolf the shit.
action bronson
I had a great experience.
joe rogan
Listen, brother, it's always great seeing you, but you make me feel very happy.
I'm real happy for you.
I love it.
I love what you're doing.
unidentified
I appreciate you, bro.
joe rogan
Keep going.
A year from now, you're going to look like Camille.
action bronson
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
Super jack, veins on your face and shit.
action bronson
No fucking ceilings.
No ceilings.
joe rogan
Just gains.
Yeah, like that DMT trip you had.
Smash through that shit.
action bronson
Smash through.
joe rogan
Smash through.
All of us.
Everybody listening.
Everyone.
Even the haters.
Come on.
You can be better.
We can all be better together.
Young Jamie.
Tell these motherfuckers about your shirt.
Oh, shit.
jamie vernon
Your shirt.
YoungJamie.com.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
420 special.
joe rogan
People that love this design.
Oh, well, look what we got, bitches.
action bronson
Beautiful.
joe rogan
Pull that shit up, Jamie.
jamie vernon
Enjoy.
joe rogan
Enjoy.
I love it.
YoungJamie.com.
And that's it.
Brother, you're the shit.
I love you, man.
unidentified
Thank you.
action bronson
You're the best.
joe rogan
No, you're the best.
Goodbye, everybody.
Have fun.
Four agreements or five, whatever you want.
Shit.
Go by two.
Do your best.
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