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Feb. 23, 2021 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1611 - Freddie Gibbs & Brian Moses
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You know why they got rid of it, right?
joe rogan
Why?
brian moses
Black people.
joe rogan
Really?
brian moses
That's why they got rid of it?
Hold these thoughts.
joe rogan
Hold these thoughts.
Tell me one.
You good?
Okay.
But Roland, did he get that already?
Oh, Jamie already got that.
Alright, so let's finish your thought.
brian moses
Yeah, so the reason the.45 caliber bullet exists and the reason they made cocaine illegal is because when blacks were working the docks in the late 1800s, early 1900s, They had these things.
There was a rape, obviously.
That's what always happens, right?
Emmett Till, all of them, right?
So a woman reported a rape and a cop came up.
There was a black dude on cocaine because they would give the dock workers cocaine to keep him up all night.
That's when it was legal.
And then there was a coked up black dude, right?
Real big dude, I guess.
And a woman was saying, he's chasing me, right?
And he was just...
I don't know what the fuck was going on, but the cop was shooting at him and there was no stopping power enough except for the bullet.
So they'd make a bigger bullet The.45 caliber bullet, because what they're using, like, a little over a.22.
freddie gibbs
Damn, and you know, this is some real shit, because this is a crackhead back in the day.
I shot that nigga nine times with a Tech-9, and he kept running down the alley.
brian moses
Different.
Different crack, though.
Different coke.
freddie gibbs
That was coke.
This was coke.
brian moses
Medicinal cocaine.
joe rogan
Coking crack, according to Karl Hart, they're the same thing.
freddie gibbs
They are the same thing.
brian moses
Really?
freddie gibbs
One just has baking soda.
That's all.
You're just freeing the base of the powder.
That's why it's called free base.
You know what I'm saying?
brian moses
They should probably make it famous, yeah.
But crack is different.
Cocaine crazed Negroes.
That's what they called them.
joe rogan
The difference is in sentencing.
That's the difference.
The difference in sentencing is crazy.
brian moses
It's crazy.
freddie gibbs
Didn't Obama change that shit?
joe rogan
Somebody must.
brian moses
I hope.
joe rogan
I don't believe it's the same anymore.
freddie gibbs
I think Obama changed it.
I want to say he did, but I don't know.
joe rogan
Let's find out if the same sentencing for crack...
You know, that's the same shit they did with marijuana.
When William Randolph Hearst was trying to make marijuana illegal, they put out these stories saying that black and Mexicans were raping white women, and they blamed it on this drug, they blamed it on marijuana, when marijuana wasn't even called marijuana back then.
The marijuana was a wild Mexican tobacco.
So they made this new name.
So when Congress was making marijuana illegal, they didn't even know they were making hemp illegal.
What the target was, was hemp the commodity.
They were trying to make the paper illegal, and they were trying to make the textiles illegal.
Because William Randolph Hearst, not only did he run Hearst newspapers, but he also had paper mills.
And then on the popular science magazine on the cover, it said, hemp, the new billion-dollar crop.
Because they came up with a new way of processing it, a new machine called a decorticator.
And so when they invented this decorticator, it was exactly the same kind of thing.
And then when they invented this thing, people were all going to start growing hemp, and hemp is superior paper, it's better for clothing.
And William Randolph Hearst was like, not so fast!
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So he made it all illegal so that he could just keep his paper mills and keep making them with wood and keep using all the things that he's already used before and controlling the industry.
brian moses
That's amazing that they could literally just say that about black people.
They're raping everybody.
Well, we got to get rid of it then.
joe rogan
Well, they made up a name for the plant.
The plant already had cannabis.
So they called it marijuana.
It was like, oh my God, like bath salts.
Like, oh, geez, it's a new thing.
What is this?
PCP. You know PCP is the same thing as ketamine?
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
I didn't know that either.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, ketamine.
Special K. When I went to Australia, that's all the bitches was snorting.
They ain't had no real cocaine.
brian moses
But it's a tranquilizer.
freddie gibbs
They were storing all ketamine.
They said, you want some coke?
I said, that ain't real coke.
I said, we are all the way in Australia.
We are thousands of miles from Colombia.
You don't have real cocaine here.
I don't believe it.
joe rogan
They don't get real cocaine in Australia?
freddie gibbs
Nah, nah.
They snort in Special K. Really?
Yes, ketamine.
brian moses
What about the UK? Because every time I go out there, they always have coke.
But I'm like, there's no way.
freddie gibbs
You know what?
All the big Colombian drug dealers, they ain't fucking with America no more.
They going to Europe.
It's easier.
Easier to import the drugs.
Really?
Yeah, they're making way more money.
And you get less time.
When I was locked up in Europe, you know what I'm saying?
For that bullshit I was locked up for.
brian moses
Yeah, that's crazy.
freddie gibbs
Like...
It was guys in the cell that was there on drug offenses.
And I'd be like, damn, how much you get called for?
They're like, man, I got called with like four keys.
And I'm like, damn.
I'm like, well, how much time you about to get?
He's like 18 months.
I'm like, what?
brian moses
The way it should be.
That's what I'm saying.
freddie gibbs
But you get called that over here.
You're doing 18 years.
brian moses
Keller Winslow Jr. is getting 14 years for rape.
joe rogan
Who is?
brian moses
Kellen Winslow Jr. Kellen Winslow's son, right?
He played for Miami.
freddie gibbs
He raped somebody.
unidentified
He gave me rapey vibes.
brian moses
He raped a homeless woman.
In their 50s.
freddie gibbs
Give them 20 years.
brian moses
Yeah, he got 14. He should.
I'm saying, bro, it should be 30. It shouldn't be like, you know, because if you, yeah, if I go at four kilos, I'm probably going to jail for 30 years.
freddie gibbs
Definitely, for sure.
brian moses
See what I mean?
But if I rape a woman, three women, I'm going for 14 years.
Yeah, the thing about kilos is- And they'll get rid of cocaine.
joe rogan
The other thing about kilos is, like, it's only valuable if somebody wants to buy it.
unidentified
Right.
Right?
joe rogan
Like, somebody has to want it.
Like, you're not really doing anything wrong.
You're just getting something to them that they want.
You're not really hurting them.
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
I'm enabling them.
Yeah, you're allowing them to do coke.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
And how many, I mean, if you were just doing coke, that's the thing.
The thing about coke is like, if you're just doing coke, like real coke, not all this cut up shit.
This is the other thing that Dr. Carl Hart, he's actually a professor at Columbia.
brian moses
The dude that does heroin?
joe rogan
Does heroin, yeah.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I've seen that shit.
I was like, what the fuck?
He said, I'm functional.
joe rogan
Interesting guy.
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because he's, first of all, he wasn't doing any drugs at all until in his 30s when he was a research scientist.
freddie gibbs
Word!
joe rogan
And he realized while he was studying these chemicals that all the propaganda we're spreading about him is all bullshit.
So he started trying them.
brian moses
I mean, everything's better in moderation, man.
joe rogan
How is this open?
brian moses
This thing's crafting.
Yeah, and they just pull it up.
joe rogan
So this is your friend's vodka?
brian moses
Yeah, Neff's vodka.
I mean, I'm not a big vodka guy.
joe rogan
This is very complicated.
brian moses
Yeah, no, just twist it off, twist it off there.
joe rogan
So you get it?
brian moses
Yeah.
Oh!
joe rogan
A little baby dick.
unidentified
I know.
freddie gibbs
It did turn into a little baby dick.
joe rogan
It does.
brian moses
Yeah, so Neff Vodka, they tout themselves as the best tasting vodka, and I was like, whatever, man, I'm not a vodka guy, you know.
I remember being...
A kid drink that charcoal filter pop off and stuff.
joe rogan
Well, one thing that I did read on YouTube, or read on YouTube, listen how stupid I am.
One thing I did watch on YouTube is that you could take shit vodka and run it through one of them Brita water filters multiple times, and apparently it'll taste great.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, they said the main goddamn ingredient in this shit is water.
brian moses
Yeah, that's Austrian water.
Yeah, so that's why it's really good.
joe rogan
Oh, Austrian water.
freddie gibbs
Austria got some good-ass water.
brian moses
Thank you, sir.
freddie gibbs
Cheers, brother.
I can't even lie.
Austria got some good ass water.
I was locked up over there in the jail and I was drinking water out the goddamn tap because they told me the water come from the Alps or the Swiss Alps.
joe rogan
Glacial water.
freddie gibbs
It's good water.
unidentified
I can't even lie.
freddie gibbs
Better than anything else they got.
They got some good ass water.
The food was bullshit but the water was amazing.
joe rogan
What kind of food they have up there?
freddie gibbs
There's a lot of pork sausages and stupid shit.
joe rogan
Things to keep you warm.
freddie gibbs
Warm food.
It wasn't right.
The jail food was bad.
brian moses
Yeah, they got some chefs up in there.
Some Wolfgang Puck.
joe rogan
Freddie, you were my soundtrack this morning in the gym.
freddie gibbs
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
It was great.
brian moses
Which song?
joe rogan
Everything.
I've listened to The Essentials on iTunes.
brian moses
Woo!
freddie gibbs
Turn it up.
Shout out Apple Music.
joe rogan
Hour and a half of Freddie Gibbs.
It was beautiful.
brian moses
Yeah, we were hanging out with Willie D of the Ghetto Boys and I was telling you, I was like, man, you gotta listen to this album.
It's Alfredo shit.
freddie gibbs
Willie D? Yeah, Willie D. You had Willie D bumping my shit?
brian moses
No, but he knows about...
I mean, you tell the story, Joe.
freddie gibbs
I love Willie D. Willie D is one of my...
That's one of my heroes growing up.
brian moses
Word.
freddie gibbs
Like, I wanted to slap a bitch like Willie D. As a kid, you know what I'm saying?
When he said, I make big money, I drive big cars, everybody know me.
joe rogan
It's like I'm a movie star.
freddie gibbs
Come on, man.
That's one of the best rap verses of all time.
joe rogan
I met him at the Houston Improv when we were hanging out.
That was one of those legitimate starstruck moments.
brian moses
You were saying that.
You were scared.
joe rogan
I was like, I can't believe I'm mean.
Dude, when I was a kid, I used to deliver newspapers, listen to the Ghetto Boys.
So here I am hanging out with him in the green room, and I'm like, it's really him.
brian moses
The coolest cat ever, too.
joe rogan
The nicest guy!
brian moses
Cool.
freddie gibbs
You know he was a boxer?
That nigga knocked some niggas out.
brian moses
Dude, he's good.
unidentified
He's good.
joe rogan
He sent me a video of him fucking some dude up, and he's like legit, like a pro.
brian moses
He was a gold glove guy, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
He was nice.
Definitely, Willie D will fuck you up.
joe rogan
Very good.
He was very good.
Like, legitimate skills.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And couldn't be a nicer guy.
And I quote him all the time.
This is the big quote before I ever met him.
You gotta let a hoe be a hoe.
freddie gibbs
Gotta let a hoe be a hoe.
joe rogan
That's like one of the best quotes ever.
freddie gibbs
Come on.
Ever.
joe rogan
Stop trying to fix people.
freddie gibbs
Willie D got...
Serious-ass one-liners, bro.
You listen to fucking We Can't Be Stop, Ghetto Boys?
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Aw, man.
I'm nominated for a Grammy night, man, but they had a song on there basically trashing the Grammys, and that's one of my favorite songs, man.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Well, he did all the writing for the Ghetto Boys.
He did most of the writing.
brian moses
He did most of the writing for Bushwick Bill.
He was Ice Cube, basically, yeah.
joe rogan
He was amazing.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, they wrote for Bushwick Bill.
Rest in peace to Bushwick Bill, as a matter of fact.
I got a crazy Bushwick Bill story.
I met Bushwick Bill Grammy week 2008 in LA. And he came up to me.
He was like, hey man, you got some weed.
You look like you got some weed.
I said, yeah, man.
I got some weed, nigga.
He said, I said, and you want to smoke with me?
You Bushwick Bill.
You want to smoke with me, nigga?
Little motherfucker running around the club.
I'm like, alright, okay.
So I roll up a blunt for this nigga.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
freddie gibbs
I'm like, hell yeah.
I'm texting niggas like, man, I'm about to smoke with Bushwick, nigga.
This shit crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
Get a blunt to Bushwick.
This motherfucker run off in the motherfucking crowd.
Of course I can't chase him.
He two feet tall.
I can't even find a motherfucker.
So he stole my blunt and ran off.
You know what I'm saying?
That's my Bushwick story.
But I wasn't even mad at him.
If somebody gonna steal my blunt, I'd rather be Bushwick Bill.
That's funny.
brian moses
Always with the mischief.
joe rogan
I almost had him on the podcast.
brian moses
Bushwick?
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
They reached out.
I have a backlog usually of a few months.
And so I was trying to figure out when to put him in.
And so I said, let me circle back in a couple of weeks.
And then apparently he had already been sick when they reached out.
And then by then he had deteriorated pretty rapidly.
And then he was in the hospital.
He had pancreatic cancer, right?
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the one that gets you quick.
And almost no one survives it.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
It's a real fast-moving cancer, apparently.
That got Bill Hicks, too.
brian moses
Really?
Oh, Pink, you're right.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, cancer's crazy.
My dad got cancer right now.
I mean, he got stomach cancer.
brian moses
Really?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
That's why I was just saying we used to talk about that diet and all of that stuff.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
freddie gibbs
The vitamin and the steam room and the sauna.
brian moses
We were talking about it because we're out in California and you made the great escape.
Congratulations.
joe rogan
I got out in time.
I saw it coming, kids.
I saw it coming.
brian moses
It's gotten no better than No, I saw it in May.
joe rogan
I started looking in May.
I was like, they're not going to fix this.
I'm like, this is just going to keep getting worse.
And you can't let them...
When you let people just decide what can open and what can't.
Okay, Target can open, but the restaurant can't.
freddie gibbs
Right.
Even aside from that, man, I bought a house off Valley Circle.
And every fucking year, I'm fire scared.
I bought my house and walked outside.
Within the first 30 days of me having my shit, the whole goddamn mountain was on fire.
So I'm like, man, what the fuck?
I like living over here.
I like living on a hill, but at what cost?
You know what I'm saying?
A million dollars.
Yeah, bro.
A million dollars to get burnt the fuck up?
joe rogan
I've been evacuated three times when I was living in California.
I'm in that same area.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I hate that shit.
joe rogan
It's scary.
It's scary.
brian moses
You rich motherfuckers.
I'm sorry.
freddie gibbs
But look, we paid all this money to be burnt the fuck up.
And then the windstorms is crazy now.
Everything on my balcony just blew the fuck off.
I got my garbage can blew down the hill.
I got to go down there and get that shit.
joe rogan
I was talking to a fireman once when I was filming Fear Factor, and this guy told me, he goes, it is a matter of time for the right conditions to happen, and a fire burns right through L.A. all the way to the ocean.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he goes, here's the deal.
He goes, if it really hits, we can't stop it.
freddie gibbs
We can't.
joe rogan
He goes, they can't stop it.
He goes, it just has to hit the right way.
It hasn't hit the right way.
You saw how it burnt right through Malibu.
freddie gibbs
It burnt straight through.
unidentified
Just...
joe rogan
All the way to the ocean.
I mean, that was crazy.
All these people that thought, well, they're going to save the rich houses.
The fuck they did?
freddie gibbs
The fuck they didn't?
Hell nah.
brian moses
They don't give a fuck.
freddie gibbs
Hell nah.
joe rogan
They can't do shit to the houses that were on the bluffs.
I mean, who the fuck thought those were going to get burnt up?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I never thought that I would see shit.
brian moses
You're paying too much money for that shit to happen, bro.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian moses
The insurance is going to cover all that?
freddie gibbs
Oh, your insurance tried to cancel you after that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
After the fire shit happened, my insurance was like, oh, I think you might want to get fired in some other insurance.
I'm like, what the fuck, bitch?
joe rogan
The problem with the insurance is when they lose 150,000 houses, what are they going to do?
They don't have that money.
freddie gibbs
They have to get loans.
joe rogan
What do they have to do to pay off your house?
And then they're going to try to nickel and dime you.
They're going to try to screw you at every turn.
brian moses
Not in Texas, though.
joe rogan
But listen, we almost froze to death out here last week.
freddie gibbs
Man, that wasn't shit, man.
Look, man, I grew up with goddamn Chicago winners, man.
These motherfuckers down here crying about some goddamn ice.
brian moses
Yeah, but they don't get it, though.
That's why.
The problem is they never get ice.
joe rogan
They just weren't prepared.
freddie gibbs
I see, because motherfuckers was going in the goddamn garage getting carbon monoxide poison trying to warm up doing stupid shit.
I said, what the fuck are y'all?
What the fuck?
brian moses
I shouldn't be laughing.
Those people died.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, but fuck them.
joe rogan
Did people die from carbon monoxide poison?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, they was going in the garage.
brian moses
Yeah, a woman and her daughter.
freddie gibbs
Man, that is the first rule to having a garage, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta keep the door open.
freddie gibbs
You gotta leave the fucking door open, man.
Anybody that has a garage, you just know not to do that.
joe rogan
Some people died in other storms because of grills.
Because they had a grill.
They brought a grill in their house.
freddie gibbs
A person brought a grill in the house and got the same carbon monoxide put in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Heating the house up with a fucking barbecue grill.
Come on, man.
Bro, listen.
brian moses
I knew some stupid shit like that as a kid.
I was like, you know, because it was cold and my mom was cooking or something.
I was like, oh, just leave the oven open.
She's like, you stupid.
freddie gibbs
Now, the oven, we could do that.
I'm from 17th Avenue in Virginia Street in Gary, Indiana.
Some days we'll keep that motherfucker open.
That shit heat up the whole house.
brian moses
Yeah, it really does.
freddie gibbs
It really does.
brian moses
My mom was like, oh, boy, don't be stupid.
joe rogan
Depends on what kind of oven, right?
If it's a gas oven, I mean, if it has an exhaust fan, as long as it has an exhaust.
freddie gibbs
Oh, we're not saying it's safe, but it was the way that you had to do things in the ghetto.
brian moses
Keep giving Joe these nigga lessons.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's from the book of niggalations, you know what I'm saying, right there.
unidentified
When it is below 20, you gotta keep the oven up, man.
joe rogan
They didn't have shit out here.
They didn't have plows.
They didn't have nothing.
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
And no one knew how to drive.
joe rogan
It was hilarious.
brian moses
All they did was play football, right?
joe rogan
I grew up in Boston, so I'm used to driving.
And I have an apocalypse vehicle.
I had a 1995 Land Cruiser built out with a supercharged Corvette engine and lifted, big tires.
I'd drive over anything in that thing.
Big-ass gas tank, 40-gallon gas tank.
I had it built because I was thinking some shit was going to go down in California.
I wanted to be able to drive where there's no roads.
brian moses
Right.
Damn.
Baja shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have a family, man.
I worry about shit like that.
I go, look, I always loved those cars anyway.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they're just durable cars.
You know, they use them in the jungle.
They use them in the desert.
They drive forever.
freddie gibbs
Every third world country I go to is a land cruise.
joe rogan
Land cruise.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
They're so durable, man.
They're so durable.
freddie gibbs
In Dominican, that's like the goddamn Rolls-Royce Cullinan.
joe rogan
Yeah, when it was snowing out here, man, that thing put a smile on my face because it was just plowing right through.
It was like, oh, we got you, baby.
brian moses
You were tripping, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was like, Daddy, this is what we were built for.
It was just driving over everything for me.
It felt so good.
You know, solid axles, four-wheel drive, locking differentials, fat knobby-ass tires, just boom.
freddie gibbs
Oh yeah, you did that shit.
joe rogan
Oh, it was beautiful.
unidentified
Are you not bored out here?
brian moses
You're not bored out in Austin?
unidentified
I love it.
brian moses
You love this shit.
joe rogan
I love it.
brian moses
You love this shit.
joe rogan
The people are nice.
Everything that you do in LA, you could do out here.
freddie gibbs
I'm moving.
joe rogan
Fuck it.
freddie gibbs
I'm out, Joe.
brian moses
See what Joe's doing, bro.
He's starting to cuss.
freddie gibbs
I'm out, Joe.
brian moses
I've been trying to correct.
This is Joseph Koresh out here.
joe rogan
It's not a cuss.
freddie gibbs
I'm coming.
I'm coming, Joe.
joe rogan
I'm leaving L.A. Fuck my life in L.A. That's what I'm saying.
freddie gibbs
Fuck my career.
Fuck my kids.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
Bring them out here.
freddie gibbs
They'll love it.
joe rogan
That's the other thing.
My kids love it out here.
They made good friends really quickly.
freddie gibbs
That's another thing, too.
joe rogan
People are friendly out here.
freddie gibbs
Badass, dumbass kids in L.A. Man, my kids go to them goddamn private school, man.
Them old rich-ass, stupid-ass kids, man.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
freddie gibbs
Fuck them kids, man.
brian moses
You were saying that same shit, actually.
I remember that.
joe rogan
Well, the problem is they're all into material possessions and fucking wear Prada t-shirts and they're 10 years old.
Like, what are we doing?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, exactly.
I'll be like, yo, let me see a 10-year-old with a Prada shirt on.
I'm gonna take that motherfucker off his ass.
You little punk-ass nigga.
You little punk-ass nigga that was talking shit to Cam Newton yesterday.
I would've beat his ass.
joe rogan
Who was talking shit to Cam Newton?
freddie gibbs
The kid at his camp.
brian moses
They do this shit every year to him at his camp.
freddie gibbs
At this point, he told him, he said, you a free agent.
You about to be poor.
Cam was like, I'm rich.
I'm rich.
I'm like, why are you arguing with this little motherfucker?
brian moses
He's arguing with a 10-year-old?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, dawg.
brian moses
And then Cam was like, where your daddy at, though?
Why are you gonna get racist, Cam?
unidentified
Oh, he said that.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a bad look.
freddie gibbs
He said, where's your daddy at, though?
You're a fatherless bastard?
joe rogan
No, no, he said that.
freddie gibbs
You're a black bastard?
brian moses
No, he didn't say that.
That would have blown up everywhere.
Yeah, come on, bro.
joe rogan
But he really did say, where's your daddy at?
freddie gibbs
He did say, where's your daddy at?
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
freddie gibbs
He said, where's your parents at, man?
Where's your daddy at?
joe rogan
For a 10-year-old?
brian moses
I mean, the kid was coming at him.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you gotta let him come at you and laugh.
He's fucking Cam Newton.
jamie vernon
He might have been 15. He was a little older.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was 15. If they're 15, they can get it.
freddie gibbs
To me, he was old enough to get his ass whooped.
jamie vernon
He was talking shit, too.
He was talking shit.
freddie gibbs
Wasn't he old enough to get his ass whooped?
jamie vernon
Probably.
freddie gibbs
He was old enough to get his ass whooped, bro.
brian moses
Yes, he was.
Yes, he was.
freddie gibbs
You had a goddamn bra man's football camp.
You're here to get fucked up.
joe rogan
Do you beat up a 15-year-old or do you just strangle him?
brian moses
I don't think you can touch them kids, man.
joe rogan
I don't think you're allowed to hit them.
freddie gibbs
I think you open-hand slapped that little bass.
joe rogan
You kick him in the legs.
brian moses
I think it's the rule of fighting, you know?
They hit you first, then it's free game.
joe rogan
Yes, but you can't beat up a 15-year-old.
brian moses
No, you can't beat him to death.
joe rogan
But some big 15-year-olds.
You know, Mike Tyson, when he was 13, weighed 190 pounds.
brian moses
Man, you know that's my spirit, nigga, bro.
freddie gibbs
LAUGHTER I'm a spear digger.
brian moses
I never heard of that one.
joe rogan
Teddy Atlas, who was his trainer at the time, was on my podcast, and he said they used to bring Mike Tyson to what they call smokers.
What smokers are is these unregulated amateur boxing matches.
And so they'd bring him to smokers, and everyone would lie about how many fights your guy had, how old your guy was.
So they'd go, Teddy, how old is he?
He goes, he's 13. And he's like, this fucking guy's not 13. Mike Tyson's over there 13, built like a tank.
And he goes, he's fucking 13. He goes, okay, he's 16. And so they put him in with 16-year-olds and he'd knock him senseless.
freddie gibbs
He was 190 at 13. And they called them fight smokers because everybody was in there smoking cigarettes.
And the cigarette smoke was so thick.
joe rogan
Up until recently, they still had those in L.A. That's how a lot of Muay Thai fighters would get their experience.
They'd fight smokers.
They'd do them in a gym.
They'd set up, bring folding chairs.
They had them at a lot of gyms.
brian moses
Interesting.
joe rogan
13. 190. There's nobody like that dude.
brian moses
He came from the right environment and the right time in history and just had the right demeanor.
Wanna hear something crazy?
joe rogan
This is a true story.
This table, when I first moved here, this is the exact width of the table that I have in L.A., and I was gonna make it more narrow.
I was like, well, this room's kind of smaller.
I'll have a smaller table.
Then I did a podcast with Tyson as he was preparing to fight Roy Jones Jr., and he was so intense.
It was a different man.
I had him 10 months ago, and then he came in 10 months later, and he was like, I'm never fighting again.
unidentified
If I fight again, then my ego will get excited, and then I can't do it.
joe rogan
And then 10 months later, he's training, he's fit, he's got softballs on the muscles on your forearm.
Everything just looks jacked and ready to rock.
freddie gibbs
Bro.
joe rogan
It was so nerve-wracking.
And I'm like, I gotta keep the distance in the table.
I gotta make...
brian moses
I was nervous!
elijah schaffer
I was just nervous being in his presence because you could tell he was ready to go.
brian moses
Yeah, he was ready to eat your heart and your children.
freddie gibbs
Luckily, when I met Mike, he was with Snoop and he was high.
So he was just chilling.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
He said he was high when he fought.
He said he was high when he fought.
freddie gibbs
Mike Tyson said he fought with gonorrhea.
And couldn't wait to whoop the nigga ass so he can get out the ring and go get treatment.
joe rogan
He knocked out Michael Spinks in the first round with gonorrhea.
brian moses
Featuring gonorrhea.
joe rogan
It's like a fighter can only exist in a certain RPM level.
It's like they hit that, they redline, and they can only do that for a few years.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
But I maintain that him, in those years, like when he knocked out Larry Holmes, when he knocked out Michael Spinks, that was one of the greatest that's ever lived.
That's ever lived.
brian moses
The greatest heavyweight of all time.
People always want to tell me about, you know, Joe Louis, Jack Johnson, and Ali, obviously.
joe rogan
They're all great.
brian moses
But in that, from 80, whenever the fuck it was, until 87, 88, I'm like, there's nobody like that guy.
freddie gibbs
Bro, when Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson, I cried.
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
I cried like a baby.
I said, shit.
I was like, I said it's over.
My life is over.
You know what I'm saying?
Mike Tyson lost?
What the fuck?
joe rogan
I did a gig, and I heard about it after the gig, and I didn't believe it, and I watched the video.
Somebody had a VHS tape, and I watched the video expecting him to get up, and I was like, there's no way.
That's how invincible we thought he was.
brian moses
Yeah, but he was.
He was.
If Robin Givens doesn't come into that man's life, I mean, maybe something else happens, but...
Yeah, he lost his mind.
joe rogan
If Customato stayed alive, he would have been untouchable.
He would have been untouchable.
Untouchable.
brian moses
He was so good.
I'm sorry to all the Ali fans, all the old heads out there, I'm sorry, but...
You never saw anything like this, Kat.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
If Ali was around when Tyson was around, Ali would have been a better Ali.
And that's a fact.
This is the thing about fighters.
They need that kind of opposition.
Ali was who he was because of Joe Frazier.
He was who he was because of Sonny Liston.
And he was who he was because of Foreman.
And if Mike Tyson was there, Ali was a great champion.
If Mike Tyson was around when Ali was around, I believe that Ali would have been even better than he was.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and Ali might be the greatest.
He might be the greatest.
But it's a different era.
It's like you can't really talk about fighters when they're not around the best that you know.
They're around the best that they know.
brian moses
I like that shit.
That's what I'm talking about.
You gotta say that shit loud.
freddie gibbs
I think that's the problem with the heavyweight division now.
It's no competition.
It's no, like, who you gonna fight?
Deontay Wilder?
Like...
joe rogan
Well, it's like they're better because of each other, though.
Like, Tyson Fury became better after Deontay knocked him down and fucked him up in the 12th round.
Knocked him down twice and then really had him in danger in the 12th round.
Then got up and then figured out in the 12th round that Deontay can't fight as well backing up.
And then hired Sugar Hill from the Kronk Gym to train him for the rematch and then came out straight at Deontay and put Deontay on his heels.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And fuck Deontay up.
freddie gibbs
Fucked him up.
brian moses
And now he'll be a better fighter now because of that.
So this trilogy's gonna be good.
joe rogan
I don't think it's gonna happen.
freddie gibbs
I don't think it's gonna happen.
I think one of them gonna fight Joshua out there.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know what's up with Deontay Wilder.
I don't know where he goes from here, actually, to be honest.
joe rogan
Don't sleep on Andy Ruiz.
Andy Ruiz is out there doing sit-ups right now.
He's like...
I fucked up.
I know I fucked up.
Look, Andy Ruiz has some of the fastest fucking hands I've ever seen.
brian moses
Big Mac Andy?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker, dude.
brian moses
He is a bad motherfucker, though.
I mean, he beat Anthony, yeah.
joe rogan
He can take it.
freddie gibbs
He is.
joe rogan
He's got a rock chin.
brian moses
He's got a chin, yeah.
That always helps.
freddie gibbs
He said he could take that shit up.
joe rogan
He's just gotta get his shit together.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
You know who my favorite boxer is right now, though?
Who?
Bud Crawford.
brian moses
Oh, that's our boy.
Yeah, it's all about Bud.
joe rogan
He's one of the best of all time.
freddie gibbs
He's the best, man.
joe rogan
One of the best of all time.
One of the best, because he switch hits like Marvin Hagler.
freddie gibbs
Right, exactly.
joe rogan
He's like one of the only guys in all of boxing that can fight just as good Southpaw as Orthodox.
freddie gibbs
Right.
I would have loved to see Floyd fight him.
brian moses
Yeah, but Floyd wouldn't do that.
unidentified
Yeah, he's past his prime.
joe rogan
Floyd's fighting YouTube stars now.
freddie gibbs
Right, I would have loved.
brian moses
He should.
joe rogan
He's going to make 30 million bucks.
freddie gibbs
But do you think that Bud would have beat him?
brian moses
Yeah.
You know what?
I don't know.
freddie gibbs
I think that would have been an amazing fight.
brian moses
I mean, Floyd's defense is Hall of Fame.
It's probably top two in the history of boxing.
freddie gibbs
It is.
joe rogan
We're talking about a guy who's 50-0, 49 in Conor McGregor.
He's 50-0.
brian moses
49 in Conor McGregor.
joe rogan
Right?
That's not fair.
Guys had zero professional boxing fights, and that's your 50. But you're talking about literally, if boxing is the art of hitting and not being hit, he's the best of all time.
He's the best of all time.
brian moses
Better than Sugar Ray.
joe rogan
Yeah, literally been hit hard maybe four times his whole career.
Floyd's the best.
And figured out a way to get people to pay, even though he's winning by decisions.
Just talk a lot of shit, show a lot of money, and everybody wants you to lose, but you still beat everybody.
brian moses
He still beat everybody.
He just wasn't flashy.
He wasn't knocking nobody out.
joe rogan
But he did when he was younger.
He did when he was younger, but he broke his hands a lot.
When he was Pretty Boy Floyd, he knocked a lot of fucking people out.
First of all, he knocked Ricky Hatton out when everybody thought Ricky Hatton was going to get him.
Yeah, that was L2. Yeah, dude.
Floyd's one of the greatest of all time, if not the greatest of all time.
I think he's the greatest.
I think he's the greatest.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because boxing is legitimately about hitting and not being hit, and no one's done it better.
No one's done it better than him.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, no one's done it better.
Like you said, his defense is number one of all time.
joe rogan
And his understanding of boxing is impregnable.
I mean, he's been hit, and he can take it.
That's the other thing.
brian moses
Madonna hurt him.
joe rogan
You know, Sugar Shane Mosley hurt him.
freddie gibbs
I thought that that was going to be the one that was going to be the one that was going to really...
You know what I'm saying?
I love Shane Mosley.
brian moses
Yeah, Shane had an ascension for a second, and then it just kind of just...
joe rogan
Like I said, they can only operate at that RPM for so long.
Nobody can maintain it.
And just training camps.
Training camps, it's like, if you're working out, you could work out all year long.
But you can't train all year long.
You're ramping yourself up.
It's like this delicate balance of peaking.
And your body can only do so much of it, and then it needs a break.
brian moses
Yeah, you can't overtrain.
joe rogan
Yeah, and a lot of guys do.
A lot of guys do.
They want it so bad, they overtrain.
They want to be harder, they want to be disciplined, and they wind up brutalizing their body, and they come into fights compromised.
In the UFC, it happens more often than boxing.
brian moses
I was going to say, yeah.
I mean, it just happened to Conor, really.
joe rogan
Not really, no.
brian moses
You don't think so?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
He was in leg kicked.
brian moses
Oh, yes.
freddie gibbs
He got fucked up in that shit.
He got fucked up.
joe rogan
Dustin Poirier is a beast.
brian moses
Yeah, you've been saying this, actually.
unidentified
He is.
brian moses
Listen, I'm like, yeah, you've been saying this about Dustin for a second.
freddie gibbs
Just him being from fucking Louisiana, his attitude is just so fiery, dog.
I love his energy.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
He's legit as fuck.
freddie gibbs
He definitely legit.
He whooped kind of ass.
joe rogan
Look, that low calf kick, that's like a new element in MMA and a lot of guys are using it.
It just brutalizes your leg.
You can't move.
brian moses
Yeah, you can't walk.
joe rogan
There's no meat down there.
There's no meat.
brian moses
It's all bone.
joe rogan
Look at your forearm and then imagine someone hitting your forearm with a bat.
There's nothing there to protect you.
If you get hit in the shoulder with a bat, it's not as bad.
But if you get hit in the forearm, like right here, like right above the wrist, that's what it's like getting kicked in the calf.
Just do that with your hand.
brian moses
That hurts.
joe rogan
Now imagine a big man like Dustin Poirier slamming that shin.
freddie gibbs
Whack!
Whack!
joe rogan
Right into that spot.
All that weight behind it.
brian moses
And skill.
joe rogan
And speed.
brian moses
And torque.
freddie gibbs
Right, right.
brian moses
Yeah, it's horrible.
joe rogan
It's a crazy new move.
freddie gibbs
I wanted to see Conor fight Khabib again.
brian moses
Yeah, but Khabib's in a good spot.
He don't have to do shit.
freddie gibbs
If I was Khabib, I wouldn't do shit either, though.
joe rogan
He might come back.
brian moses
But that's the custom model thing with him.
His pops is gone, so it's like, why do it?
joe rogan
Well, it's not just that.
He promised his mother.
Look, Khabib drives a Toyota pickup truck.
Do you know that?
Lives in the same house.
He's just a normal living dude.
Doesn't dress flashy at all.
brian moses
Which means he's going to win all the time.
joe rogan
He's real, man.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, he is real.
I mean, the motherfucker wrestled bears, dog.
brian moses
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Legitimately.
brian moses
That'll always keep you hungry.
If I can't be the bear.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, as a child, dog.
So, I mean, like, I looked at him and I was like, yeah, this is probably one of the most toughest individuals in the world.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
So disciplined and so religious.
Like, absolutely dedicated to his religion.
freddie gibbs
I mean, shit, you gotta be.
Them motherfuckers are Muslim in goddamn Ukraine.
Right, yeah.
It's freezing.
brian moses
Ain't shit going on out there, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're just tough people anyway.
They're mountain people.
They live in the mountains of Dagestan.
Bro, there's an invasion of Dagestan in the UFC right now.
Invasion.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
joe rogan
There's so many of those guys coming over, and they're all savages.
Like, if you find out a guy's from...
I don't know.
brian moses
Poor countries always seem to like...
When they come up, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
I can't imagine it's wealthy.
freddie gibbs
Poor conditions, period, produce fighters.
You know what I'm saying?
brian moses
Look at Conor, shit.
freddie gibbs
Exactly.
joe rogan
There's a video, or a photo, rather.
Go to Shannon Cannon Briggs.
brian moses
Oh my god, watch him this morning.
joe rogan
Go to his Instagram, because he reposted a photo of Jack Dempsey, where Jack Dempsey was talking about what it was like growing up, and working, and all the shit that he had to endure, and bad food, and...
brian moses
This is why I say Bill Russell is the greatest of all time.
joe rogan
Look at that right there.
That's Jack Dempsey.
And by the way, that's the man that Mike Tyson idolized the most.
In fact, Mike Tyson even cut his hair like Jack Dempsey.
Yeah, look at what Shannon says.
Some of y'all tender because you never worked hard.
You cocoa butter skin soft.
You gotta get out there and get tough.
Join a boxing gym, take up mixed martial arts before it's too late.
Ask yourself, can I run three to five miles right now if I had to so that I could survive?
Can you fight three to five minutes hard without dying from exhaustion?
Be tougher.
Prepare.
Let's go champs!
freddie gibbs
That's real shit.
joe rogan
So it says there with Jack Dempsey, if you can scroll down once you read it, he said, we ate poorly, we had very few clothes, we worked too hard, I fed pigs, chopped wood, worked into sugar beet fields, shined shoes in barbershops, helped pitch circus tents, and move heavy equipment, and even shoveled dung.
But all in all, I don't regret having grown up that way.
It made me tough and well prepared for the life ahead.
I was never ill or down with sickness.
My body became tough as leather.
freddie gibbs
Exactly.
joe rogan
That was a horrific man.
If you were staring across the ring from him, people were just different animals back then at the turn of the century.
freddie gibbs
They were.
brian moses
They were fighting for that food bucket.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
brian moses
Yeah.
If you're fighting for food and for your family, you're like, hey man, this is going to feed me tonight.
Yeah, you're going to kill somebody.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, you will.
brian moses
That's why Mike Tyson was so good.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
When he came on my podcast and told me about his childhood, that literally the time he was with Cuss was the first time that he experienced love.
And that he would get this love from fighting and winning.
And also, Cuss was a hypnotist.
So Cuss was a psychologist and a hypnotist.
And he knew a lot about psychology because boxing is so much mental, right?
brian moses
It is, right.
joe rogan
So he learned how to hypnotize Tyson.
He was hypnotizing when he was like 13 years old.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
joe rogan
One of the things he said that I never stopped thinking about, he said, he goes, Cuss would tell me, you don't exist.
You are just the task.
You complete the task, but you don't exist.
So he was only thinking about, oh, I don't want to lose.
Oh, I hope I don't embarrass myself.
He literally programmed him into his mind.
You don't exist.
Only the task, the task ahead of him.
And Mike Tyson would smash people.
brian moses
That's soldier brainwashing too, by the way.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian moses
That's what they always say.
Your goal, your mission is the task.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, imagine being a kid whose whole life was just filled with violence and crime and horrific abandonment and just pain.
And then all of a sudden you find this one thing that literally you're built for.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Literally.
No one's 13, 190 pounds, 5'10".
brian moses
He's the Michael Phelps of boxing.
Yeah, he was just...
joe rogan
He was born to...
brian moses
Born to box.
freddie gibbs
But, like, just a complex individual, man.
unidentified
Yes.
freddie gibbs
Like, Mike Tyson slept in a bed with his mom when he was, like, 15 years old.
brian moses
Yeah, man.
The most of the trouble that was happening in the 70s.
freddie gibbs
You know what I'm saying?
Like, that's crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like...
I wouldn't say it was anything sexual.
He just wanted to be near his mother.
joe rogan
Also, a very complex guy in his understanding of history.
All the conquerors.
I asked him about Genghis Khan.
His name was Temujin.
He goes into the whole story of Genghis Khan.
He knows where you were born.
You know what I'm saying?
What city were you born in?
That's how he can talk to you about Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great or any of those conquerors.
Right.
When he started on that path, man, he was all in.
All in.
One of the great cultural moments of my childhood, like growing up, was watching the ascent of Mike Tyson.
freddie gibbs
Yes, definitely.
joe rogan
I guess I wasn't a child.
I was in my early 20s.
You know, I think he's like one year older than me.
So he won the title when he was 20, so I was 19. And I remember seeing him was like, oh my god.
Like so different than everybody else.
So different.
Because the heavyweight division had gotten boring.
brian moses
Yeah, I'd heard.
Especially after Ollie retires, basically, right?
It's boring now.
joe rogan
Nobody gave Larry Holmes his due.
Nobody.
Never did.
brian moses
But why would you?
There was nobody then.
joe rogan
But it's not true.
It's not true.
He fought Ernie Shavers.
He fought good guys.
He fucked up Jerry Cooney when Jerry Cooney was pretty good.
He beat a lot of good guys, but he had also beat Ali.
And everybody hated him for beating Ali.
People forgot how good Larry Holmes was.
brian moses
Yeah, I don't think about it because Mike Tyson beat the shit out of him quick.
joe rogan
He did.
He fucked him up.
But that was how good Tyson was.
brian moses
Right.
And this is what I'm saying.
I'm like, I don't know, man.
I just think that there's nobody in that prime that's better than that guy.
And I'm sorry, Ali, Jack Johnson, Dempsey, you know, Joe Louis fans.
freddie gibbs
Jack Johnson was something different, though, man.
You know what I'm saying?
He got there fighting bare-fisted, man.
joe rogan
Basically.
freddie gibbs
And fighting racism.
brian moses
Well, that's why I always say, like, when they talk about goats, you know, like, LeBron, Jordan, you know, all these...
joe rogan
You kind of can't do it.
brian moses
You can't.
Because you can't talk about those cats before the segregation era.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
Because they're dealing with the ankle weights of segregation.
joe rogan
You know what it's almost like?
It's trying to give the Academy Award of all movies to one movie.
brian moses
Exactly.
joe rogan
How can you do that?
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
There's so many great movies.
brian moses
Citizen Kane's pretty good, though.
joe rogan
It's a goddamn good movie, especially if you consider the time that it was made.
By the way, that's about William Randolph Hearst.
brian moses
Exactly.
joe rogan
The same guy who made Weed Illegal.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
He worked with Harry Ensler in the 1930s.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is crazy.
But you look at their eras, like Lenny Bruce.
If you try to listen to a Lenny Bruce CD today, they're not that good.
Not that they're not that good, but it doesn't hold up.
It's not going to make you laugh.
It's fascinating historically, because you've got to think of the guy.
brian moses
They couldn't say that back then.
joe rogan
He was going to jail for us, okay?
Basically.
He planted the seeds.
brian moses
He was Jesus, yeah.
He planted the seeds.
joe rogan
Carlin also went to jail for us.
I think Pryor went to jail for that same kind of shit, didn't he?
Didn't he get arrested?
brian moses
I mean, that nigger's crazy is an album.
freddie gibbs
Richard Pryor went...
brian moses
That nigger's crazy is an album.
I didn't even know I was an adult, Joe.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
There's a book called Nigger by...
Dick Gregory.
Yeah, my idol.
freddie gibbs
Dick Gregory spoke at my high school graduation.
brian moses
Yeah.
If we're talking about styles, that's who I admit my style is Dick Gregory.
But yeah, those guys, you couldn't say that kind of shit.
joe rogan
No.
They were cultural pioneers.
They weren't just guys who were working.
There was guys at the time that worked, that were also comics, that worked with them.
They had contemporaries.
brian moses
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
Good point.
But we don't look back at those guys and say they changed culture.
brian moses
I mean, yeah.
joe rogan
Manny Bruce changed culture, and Pryor for sure changed culture, and George Carlin changed culture too.
freddie gibbs
Definitely.
joe rogan
They changed culture.
They did something that we'll never understand.
They literally got cuffed and put into a cell for their act.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
And then they kept doing it.
brian moses
That's true censorship.
That's the true shit.
That's when the government's taking you to jail for it.
They're banning you from Twitter when you can just make another Instagram.
freddie gibbs
So they took George Carlin to jail for doing stand-up?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, multiple times.
brian moses
Lenny Bruce, all them cats.
Fred Fox?
joe rogan
Didn't he go to jail once and was arrested in the same car with Lenny Bruce, I think?
I think he got put in the back of the same squad car with Lenny Bruce.
Maybe that's a legend.
brian moses
Is he that old?
joe rogan
Yes.
brian moses
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's old enough.
He's old enough to cross paths.
brian moses
Maybe it's Mort Saldin.
joe rogan
Well, Mort Sahl was definitely a part of that crew, too.
Mort Sahl was very political.
freddie gibbs
So these motherfuckers are going to jail for doing comedy?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know if Mort Sahl ever went to jail, though.
I think Mort Sahl didn't.
But he was also very important.
brian moses
Lenny Bruce, Carlin, those cats, they paved the way for hip-hop.
I mean, it's basically the two live crew of it all.
They're saying, hey, why can't we say shit?
Cats went to jail for this kind of shit.
We can say anything.
joe rogan
Well, by the time Pryor came along, he was like the best example of being undeniable.
He was so good.
brian moses
And raw.
joe rogan
So different.
brian moses
And fearless.
joe rogan
No one was that honest.
He would do jokes about him being on fire.
I mean, the guy got out of the hospital, almost fucking died, but later admitted that he tried to kill himself, that he tried to light himself on fire.
And then here he is on TV doing, you know, jokes about a match.
brian moses
What's this?
joe rogan
Richard Pryor running down the street?
Fuck y'all!
And everybody would go crazy and laugh.
I mean, this is a guy that almost died.
freddie gibbs
Almost died.
joe rogan
And here he is, his next special.
That time, George Carlin got arrested with Lenny Bruce.
Wow.
We've got to remember, Carlin, in his early, early, early days, wore a suit and tie and was squeaky clean.
And then he probably fucked some really hot hippie or something.
And realized, these people are more fun.
Or maybe he saw Lenny a few times.
brian moses
I've been going to the 50s and 60s docs a lot lately.
I don't know what it is about it, but I've just been into them for the last two weeks.
I've been texting you about some of this shit, maybe.
But that's a weird time in history.
joe rogan
Crazy time.
brian moses
Because the 50s is like, okay, America's a superpower.
They get out of depression.
They become a superpower after World War II because they make all this money.
And then it's like all these straight white men, or let's just say white Christian men, are terrified because they're like, well, we have everything.
We can call women bitches.
We can slap them in public.
We don't have to hire black people.
We can call them niggers, all this kind of stuff.
We can do anything.
We can drink and smoke.
We can have side bitches all the time.
I have a house in New York and I live in the suburbs.
What am I afraid of?
They were afraid of a fucking satellite called Sputnik.
They were afraid of the Russians.
The Russians, I mean, maybe they were gonna fuck with us.
Come on, man.
joe rogan
Well, they were afraid of us, too.
brian moses
They were doing the same thing, yeah.
You guys were scared of each other, but none of y'all made a move.
joe rogan
Our leaders figured out a way to put us against each other.
And one of the best parts about it is that the formula is in the Bible.
brian moses
Word.
joe rogan
Crazy.
Right?
The Tower of Babel?
Or Tower of Babel, rather?
The Tower of Babel was about having so many languages that you couldn't communicate with each other, and that was how...
Was it God that ensured that people could never unite?
Whose idea was the Tower of Babel?
Was it God's?
I think it's Old Testament, right?
Genesis.
brian moses
That's the first one?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian moses
That's the Godfather?
joe rogan
Well, Old Testament is the crazy shit.
brian moses
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You want to get deep into the origins of religion.
You read some Old Testament stuff.
You're like, hey, hold on.
How much of this do you believe?
brian moses
Word.
joe rogan
Exactly.
This is crazy.
Like, hold on.
We're not saying that there's not a God, there's not a higher power, but people wrote this.
brian moses
Come on.
freddie gibbs
That's what I tell people all the time.
joe rogan
This is not being against God.
It's not being against God.
We are in denial that people are full of shit.
freddie gibbs
Right!
joe rogan
Bro, I had a whole bit about it.
It was basically, I would never say this is no God, but I'm saying people are full of shit and that story sucks.
Put those two and two together.
You know people lie.
freddie gibbs
Come on.
Exactly.
People wrote this shit.
People wrote this, the Quran, all them goddamn books.
brian moses
This is man-made.
joe rogan
But it doesn't mean that there's not some truth to the original stories they were trying to tell.
freddie gibbs
But you gotta take what you get from it.
You gotta take your own perspective.
brian moses
It's like QAnon.
There's a criminal truth to everything.
joe rogan
But there's some shit in there.
It's like...
They knew harmony.
They understood, right?
Like, do unto your brother as you would have them do unto you.
They figured some things out, the divine things, like love and community and just some rules that God wants you to live in a very just way.
And they're right, though.
This is the path out of barbarism.
This is the path out of murdering people with swords.
This is the path out of killing babies with arrows.
brian moses
That was the path.
joe rogan
They realized, look, we used to be savage because we had to be savage.
We were getting eaten by jaguars and shit.
There's this guy, his name is Rupert Sheldrake, and he has this idea about children's memories, and it's a fascinating idea.
He said, there's a reason why kids are afraid of monsters.
He goes, they're not afraid of car accidents or child molesters or bullets.
How the fuck do they know to be afraid of monsters?
They know from the jump how to be afraid of some shit that's not likely going to affect them.
And his idea was that there's some sort of memory that goes back to the time when we were primates living in the trees and we're worried about cats because they always came in the dark.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you're always worried about a monster in the dark.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
So these memories are like they're a part of us.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So something forced early humans to say, we gotta figure out a way to work together and we need some rules.
And if we do that, we gravitate towards the divine.
If we can abandon all of our bullshit and if we could talk to each other, it would help.
And that's where the Tower of Babel shit comes in.
That's where the Russian shit with the United States comes in.
If we could all talk to each other and go, hey man, why are you mad?
brian moses
We thought you were mad!
We're not mad at all!
joe rogan
Give me a hug!
unidentified
I thought you were going to kill my kids!
brian moses
I just got this million dollars, bro.
You should have said something.
I'm terrified.
I got this military behind me.
joe rogan
Oh my god, we spent so much money on missiles.
We're going to save that money.
We're going to just food.
We're going to fed each other.
If the United States and Russia just had that kind of conversation, like even if you're Putin and even if you're what Trump wanted to be, even if you're like the ultimate ruler of what land you live on and everyone loves you, even then, there's enough for everybody.
Jesus fucking Christ.
There is no reason why Russia and the United States should even think about fighting each other.
It's so dumb.
brian moses
Bro, humanity's only here for another 4 billion years, maybe 2,000 years, maybe, shit.
joe rogan
If we're lucky, but it's not.
It's not us.
It's a couple people that are living this old way and they're running a whole country.
A couple people.
freddie gibbs
Yep.
That's real.
brian moses
That's influence.
joe rogan
That's what's up.
And they all want it.
freddie gibbs
I feel like we all got missiles aimed at each other just like waiting.
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Well, we do.
That's a scary fucking deal.
brian moses
I mean, you've been in the streets so it's like, you know, that's how it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
brian moses
See?
joe rogan
The difference is this could wipe out all of humanity.
And we've come close at least twice.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
At least twice.
freddie gibbs
Yep.
brian moses
What's the point?
Why didn't they ever ask themselves, like, what was the point?
joe rogan
That's the thing.
China has enough.
The United States has enough.
Russia has enough.
It's just, we gotta work it out better.
brian moses
Thank you.
That's all it is.
joe rogan
It's not like one country's, like, made out of gold.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
And all the other countries are like, what the fuck?
We don't have any gold!
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
We got hay!
We're growing hay over here!
You motherfuckers got gold?
Just give me a little gold.
I want, like, a basketball of gold.
A basketball-sized piece of gold would literally last you for the rest of your life.
You could be a baller until your fucking heart stops.
How much is a...
A basketball-sized chunk of gold.
brian moses
Yeah.
I mean, honestly, yeah, because everything's going cryptocurrency anyway, if you just have this actual physical piece of value, yeah, you're the guy.
joe rogan
That would be so wealthy, though.
How expensive would a basketball made out of solid gold?
freddie gibbs
Gold is what, like 1,800 ounce?
jamie vernon
Converse it to kilos.
brian moses
If you had to guess, how much for a kilo of gold?
joe rogan
How much do you think it would weigh?
Like a basketball-sized chunk of gold.
brian moses
I mean, that's weight, bro.
So much weight.
freddie gibbs
I would say about like 15, 20 pounds.
brian moses
A medicine ball, you think?
joe rogan
I don't have any gold watches, but if you ever pick up a gold watch, they're heavy as fuck.
You do.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, it's shit heavy.
joe rogan
It's heavy as fuck, right?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, it's heavy.
joe rogan
Can I feel that?
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's unusual.
This weight is unusual.
It's unusual.
See, look, my watch is the opposite of yours.
Mine's made out of titanium.
Feel that.
It feels like nothing.
brian moses
By the way, that was Martin Luther King's dream in action right there.
joe rogan
This is so heavy.
brian moses
He wanted a black man to give his solid gold watch to a white man in Texas.
joe rogan
It's so heavy.
brian moses
And nobody fought.
joe rogan
This is the Omega.
brian moses
Oh shit, they trading watches?
freddie gibbs
It's a rapper watch.
joe rogan
This is so light.
This thing's made out of titanium.
freddie gibbs
That's amazing.
I need to give me one of them Omegas.
joe rogan
I love it.
I love it.
freddie gibbs
See?
brian moses
There we go.
jamie vernon
It's converted to something called a troy ounce, which is not quite the same as a pound.
joe rogan
Hey, bro, I got news for you.
That's way more than 15 pounds.
Yep.
Basketball gold, that might be like 80 pounds.
brian moses
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Think of a medicine ball.
What a basketball-sized object made out of gold weigh.
Let's try it.
brian moses
Sounds like a workout.
joe rogan
I feel like 2 million.
jamie vernon
2.1 for 100 pounds worth of gold.
freddie gibbs
100 pounds of gold worth of gold?
joe rogan
It might even be more than 100 pounds.
jamie vernon
How dense is it?
brian moses
100 troy pounds.
jamie vernon
Have you seen that ball that can fall through the earth?
That's like this little dense thing.
It's like, I don't know.
How do you even do that?
joe rogan
Fall through the earth?
jamie vernon
It can.
freddie gibbs
It's a ball that can fall through the earth.
jamie vernon
Neutron star or something.
brian moses
I don't know.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
freddie gibbs
What country invented that?
joe rogan
Well, the problem with that was that was a part of the fear of people that didn't understand what they were doing with the Large Hadron Collider.
Like, people got scared, and they thought that they were going to create black holes.
See, they had never done it before.
They were trying to do a...
You know what the Large Hadron Collider is?
brian moses
I heard about the black hole creator, yeah.
joe rogan
It's a crazy thing that it goes through more than one country, and it's miles long, and it's a particle accelerator that gets shit just under the speed of light, and they can figure out what happened at the earliest moments of the universe through this.
So through these experiments, they've figured out a bunch of things, like the Higgs boson particle is the thing they were looking for.
It's like this theoretical particle that's like the god particle.
They were trying to figure out what made this thing.
They had theorized this thing existed, and then they couldn't figure it out until they used this Large Hadron Collider, and they actually measured it.
So they know that this thing is possible.
brian moses
So it's just, it's thoroughly long, I guess at a microscopic level.
joe rogan
But there was also some shit called quark gluon plasma that they discovered.
It's the heaviest shit they've ever measured ever.
Like, it's a preposterously heavy element.
And they can only make it exist for fractions of a second.
But it exists.
But it exists, and they measured it.
So it was one of the things they were really trying to find out if it was real.
Like, there's some dudes that are so far ahead of you and I. They're so much smarter than us!
They're figuring out a way to recreate the Big Bang in the tiniest little segment, like a cell of the Big Bang.
Like if the Big Bang was an elephant, they can get one cell of that Big Bang and recreate it.
brian moses
This is why I say I still think, yeah, because you're right, there's only a handful of dudes who are on that God level, right?
Where I'm like, we're just too primitive to not believe in God.
joe rogan
I don't think there's a handful.
I think there's essentially the same number as...
This is my theory on things.
There's the same number of people that are really truly elite at everything.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
At everything.
At everything.
Whether it's hip-hop, whether it's comedy, whether it's physics, there's a certain level of people that are willing to put in the...
Champions in martial arts, champions in boxing.
There's a certain level of people.
And I think it's a state of humanity.
I think it's a state that we can achieve.
So when you watch a guy like Michael Jordan in his prime, I remember when I was a kid, I was never a basketball fan, but I grew up in Boston, and everybody would talk about Larry Bird, Larry Bird, Larry Bird.
And then I remember Larry Bird saying, playing basketball against Michael Jordan is like God disguised as Michael Jordan.
brian moses
Right.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And I was like, holy shit.
If you watch him, you watch him play, if you watch the highlights, that's what you feel.
You feel unquestionable, undeniable greatness at a spectacular level.
And I think that exists in chess.
I think that exists in Jimi Hendrix.
I think that exists in comedy with Richard Pryor.
I think there's levels that there's the tip of the mountain that a few people get to.
And they just blast out some shit that changes everything.
And that's their quest.
That's like what's calling them.
It's calling them to reach levels of unachieved proficiency.
freddie gibbs
It's like the nigga that made crack.
joe rogan
That's why we can't really have...
Yeah, that's why we really can't have goats.
brian moses
Who the fuck made crack, by the way?
FBI Asian made crack.
joe rogan
Well, they had freebase before crack.
brian moses
Right, right.
We did have freebase.
joe rogan
So somebody just figured out how to mass market.
freddie gibbs
That's how Richard Pryor burnt up.
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Fuck with that freebase.
brian moses
Yeah, he was freebasing.
joe rogan
Think about all that, man.
That's why you can't really have goats.
Mike Tyson wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Jack Johnson.
Mike Tyson wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Larry Holmes.
He wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Ali.
All those people, not he wouldn't exist, but he wouldn't have been the same version of Mike Tyson that we experienced.
brian moses
He wouldn't have had the tape to study to get to where he would be.
joe rogan
Exactly, 100%.
He's the best example of that because he was the best student.
True.
Because he constantly, like his, Jacobs, what was his manager's name?
Some, I forget, Jacobs.
Mike Tyson's early manager, he died as well, but he was a historian of boxing, and he had all these 16mm recordings of Harry Greb, old Jack Johnson, old fights from back in the day.
You get to watch Jim Jeffries.
You get to watch these dudes that exist.
Jimmy Jacobs, that's the man.
Yeah.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
brian moses
Black dude.
freddie gibbs
Jimmy.
joe rogan
No, I think he's a white guy.
freddie gibbs
White guy.
joe rogan
Just had a wide nose.
But he was a crazy boxing historian.
I think he was actually a Jewish guy.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
If I believe so.
He was a big time handball player.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, he died, I think.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
Him and Shelly Finkel were handling Mike Tyson's career, and Customato was the trainer early on in his career.
Shelly Finkel is also this legendary dude in the boxing world.
freddie gibbs
I remember I read Mike Tyson's book, and he said some shit like one day he was gone, and Robin Givens and her mom went to his accountant and tried to withdraw $10 million from his bank account.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian moses
10 million?
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
brian moses
What?
freddie gibbs
And they like, why you won't give us the 10 million?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
freddie gibbs
I'm like, yo.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
freddie gibbs
I'm like, yo, bro.
Robin Givens was something else.
Something else, man.
joe rogan
Imagine.
Do you know the Brad Pitt story?
brian moses
Nah.
joe rogan
Oh, you don't know?
brian moses
Nah.
joe rogan
Oh, this is a great story.
freddie gibbs
Brad Pitt.
joe rogan
Brad Pitt started hooking up with Robin Givens after Mike Tyson.
So one day Mike Tyson shows up and Brad Pitt's there.
There's apparently some intense moment.
See if you can find that.
unidentified
Could you imagine being Brad Pitt?
joe rogan
Maybe I'm wrong.
I might have the timeline wrong.
Maybe Brad Pitt was before.
I might be wrong.
I might be wrong.
brian moses
There we go.
joe rogan
Just try to find the timeline.
Brad Pitt stole my wife.
freddie gibbs
I think Brad Pitt was fucking that bitch when she was on 21 Jump Street.
joe rogan
Can you imagine Brad Pitt and you are banging Mike Tyson's wife?
Like, oh my god.
brian moses
I mean the balls.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian moses
The balls it takes from that guy.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Or ex-wife.
brian moses
He could have been Ron Goldman.
joe rogan
Yes.
freddie gibbs
When it comes to fucking bitches, Brad Pitt is one of my idols.
Is he?
brian moses
That's your guy?
joe rogan
He's about as handsome as you're allowed to get.
You know why, too?
Because he's kind of rugged.
He's not just handsome.
brian moses
That's why McConaughey works so well, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it looked like he could survive on a ranch.
freddie gibbs
Right.
And Matthew McConaughey is like 60-something years old, man.
He look good for his fucking age.
joe rogan
He's a nice guy, man.
brian moses
60?
freddie gibbs
He damn near early 60s, man.
50-something.
He old as fuck.
brian moses
McConaughey don't crack shit.
freddie gibbs
He old as fuck.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm like, goddamn, McConaughey.
joe rogan
He's another one.
I did a podcast with him.
Oh, he's down here.
We FaceTimed before we did the podcast.
And we FaceTimed.
I panicked.
I was like, I can't even believe I'm talking to Matthew McConaughey.
brian moses
The scope of this is hilarious.
joe rogan
I really did.
brian moses
From Willie Dean of the Ghetto Boys to Matthew McConaughey.
Hey, man!
joe rogan
I remember.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan of a lot of fucking people.
That's one of those dudes that almost killed himself for a movie.
brian moses
Dallas Buyers Club?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian moses
Yeah, he really got AIDS. I heard about that.
joe rogan
No, he didn't.
brian moses
He really met it, man.
freddie gibbs
50 Cent did that shit and it was trash, though.
unidentified
Ah!
freddie gibbs
You remember 50 Cent got skinny for that movie?
He got skinny for a movie and it wasn't good.
What was that?
joe rogan
He fucked up.
You know who else fucked up too?
The other dudes.
Batman.
Christian Bale.
Christian Bale fucked up because he did it for a terrible movie.
The Machinist.
brian moses
You see that movie?
joe rogan
He got the most death-like.
He did.
Look at 50 Cent.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, 50 was fucked up.
brian moses
We could have sent 50 money, shit.
unidentified
That's crazy.
freddie gibbs
50 bounced back with power though.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, he bounced back.
brian moses
So did Christian Bale.
joe rogan
Christian Bale did that Batman movie just six months.
Look how skinny he got.
But still, it looks kind of jacked.
It looks like Jamar.
brian moses
Right, right.
freddie gibbs
He's skinny as fuck for this shit.
joe rogan
But still kind of ripped.
He's got chest muscles.
brian moses
Yeah, he's still Hollywood ripped.
joe rogan
Even there, he looks like a runner.
His face looks like shit, but his body looks like he's a runner.
He didn't get as bad as Christian Bale.
freddie gibbs
He looked like a Nigerian Olympic runner.
joe rogan
Yes, like the dude who's going to break the new world record in the marathon.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, but we didn't watch that movie.
joe rogan
Yeah, look how he's thin.
brian moses
He looks like starving Marvin from South Park.
That shit's fucked.
joe rogan
His face is very thin, but he still has muscles.
brian moses
Yeah, it's all definition.
joe rogan
Now go to Christian Bale in The Machinist.
Totally different animal.
When Christian Bale was in The Machinist, he looked like a dead man.
Like you could see, there was no chest muscles.
He was all ribcage.
freddie gibbs
It was freaky.
Look at that.
joe rogan
That's real.
That's really him.
freddie gibbs
How did you do that?
joe rogan
He starved himself.
He starved himself over months and months.
And that movie was trash.
He was eating like a can of tuna and an apple.
freddie gibbs
And you see he did that and then got fat for the, what's that, Vice?
brian moses
Right, right, right.
freddie gibbs
Oh my God, that's one of the best movies I've ever seen.
I love Vice.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker, that Christian Bale.
freddie gibbs
He got fat for a movie.
brian moses
Big fan.
freddie gibbs
He got fat for a couple movies.
brian moses
You ever see Harsh Times?
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
brian moses
When he plays like a white cholo.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, he's like a white cholo and he comes back trying to get a job.
brian moses
That shit was so hard.
freddie gibbs
That shit was so L.A. You know what was trash?
What?
The fucking movie that they tried to kind of make like that with Shia LaBeouf recently just came out.
brian moses
I do remember that.
freddie gibbs
Trash.
Did not like it.
brian moses
It wasn't like Harsh Time.
freddie gibbs
Well, he tried to be like a little cholo.
I think he actually was Mexican in that shit, man.
joe rogan
Oh, Shia LaBeouf tattooed his chest for real for that movie.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
And he had cauliflower ear.
How did he get that?
joe rogan
He probably just had somebody break his ear.
brian moses
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Damn.
freddie gibbs
See?
Look at his ear.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
Oh, wow.
He really...
freddie gibbs
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, but listen to me.
I'm only going to say this once.
brian moses
He's got the lokes on, too.
joe rogan
No.
This is what I'm going to say.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
No.
freddie gibbs
He didn't convince me, buddy.
joe rogan
No.
You can't fake cauliflower ear.
Listen, man.
You can wear ear guards, you know, and you don't have to have that shit.
freddie gibbs
How did he do that?
joe rogan
He broke his ears.
freddie gibbs
He broke his fucking ears.
joe rogan
A lot of guys do it.
brian moses
White belts do it.
How do you look like a cholo?
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Listen to me, man.
freddie gibbs
How do you break your ears?
joe rogan
White belts will do this.
They'll do it to themselves.
And with crazy people that want to have cauliflower ear, they take their ear and they just fuck it up.
If you just fuck your ear up and you can bend it and a lot of guys rub things on it or beat it with things, if you do that, your ear starts to bleed.
And when your ear starts to bleed, your ear is very thin, right?
Oh, my God.
It's designed to take in sound.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
It's designed to echo the sound around these little weird shapes.
brian moses
Exactly.
joe rogan
Well, in between that tissue is just cartilage and skin and it bleeds.
And when it bleeds, it fills up those areas and it calcifies and becomes hard as fuck.
freddie gibbs
Oh my god.
joe rogan
So it's not hard to do.
I could do it if I wanted to do it.
I just used to wear ear guards when I did jujitsu.
brian moses
Smart, yeah.
joe rogan
So if somebody wanted to just give themselves a fucking nasty ear, I have little tiny pieces of it and shit, but it's not hard to do.
freddie gibbs
From jujitsu and shit like that?
Because I see all the fighters we have.
brian moses
I'm glad you kept your ears though.
joe rogan
I wore ear guards all the time.
You gotta hear.
This is fucking stupid.
freddie gibbs
This is stupid.
joe rogan
And if you do get it, drain it, man.
freddie gibbs
That's what I'm saying.
Why don't they fix that shit?
joe rogan
Because they want to look like a badass.
But the thing about Shia LaBeouf, doing that for a movie shows his dedication.
The guy got his chest tattooed for a fucking movie, fully.
Was it real?
Was the ear real?
jamie vernon
The tattoo may be real.
The ear is makeup.
joe rogan
Oh, the ear is makeup.
brian moses
Good job.
joe rogan
That was a good makeup job.
But I do know guys that were white belts.
Who did that shit to their own ears.
brian moses
Just look at bad asses.
joe rogan
And you could see them like, what are you doing to your ear, man?
They wanted it.
Like, people have talked about doing it.
Like, this is how I got my cauliflower ear.
No, you're supposed to get that shit like Waleed Ishmael.
You're supposed to earn that shit.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, like Hoise Gracie and Hicks and Grace.
You gotta earn that shit.
freddie gibbs
Ugh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
I've seen that one.
Who was fighting?
I think it was fucking...
What's the dude that died, man?
They used to fight in the backyard all the time.
joe rogan
Kimbo.
freddie gibbs
He hit the dude with the cauliflower ear and it exploded in the ring.
You seen that shit before?
joe rogan
That was nasty.
freddie gibbs
That was nasty.
He hit the dude with the cauliflower ear.
joe rogan
I think that was in Elite XC, if I remember right.
freddie gibbs
It wasn't UFC. But he hit the dude and that shit exploded.
I was like, what the fuck?
brian moses
That was a hell of a time.
freddie gibbs
I paid for that shit.
joe rogan
He's the first viral MMA star.
brian moses
Yeah, because that was after, like, Bum Fights.
Remember those?
Remember when the Bum Fights were going down?
joe rogan
Bum Fights.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
brian moses
And then Bum Fights was, like, Volume 3 or whatever the fuck it was.
And then Kimbo Slice came on the scene.
You're like, yo.
And that shit went viral, viral, viral.
Yeah.
That was after you and the Mencia thing, actually.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Look at that.
That's James Thompson, who's a beast.
brian moses
That's James Thompson from the UK. Eating that dude's hand while he's exploding that guy's ear.
joe rogan
Plus, Kimbo's hairstyle was amazing.
freddie gibbs
Oh, my God.
The bald, oh, amazing.
brian moses
I loved it.
joe rogan
I loved it.
brian moses
Sumo Slice.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, rest in peace, Kimbo Slice.
joe rogan
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace.
And listen, man, that guy had tremendous courage because he entered the Ultimate Fighter when he was already like a superstar online.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
Did you ever see that fight with him and Sean Gannon?
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
Oh, dude.
Listen to me.
One of the greatest fights in the history of all fights that people have fought.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
This is how crazy it is.
brian moses
You're saying that?
joe rogan
This is why.
This is why.
Because Kimbo Slice was an internet legend and he was fighting these guys bare knuckle.
Sean Gannon is a cop in Boston who's also an MMA fighter.
So they go into this fucking gym.
I mean, this gym is all kinds of fucked up.
This is in Massachusetts.
A bunch of people stand around betting on it.
And Kimbo Slice and Sean Gannon go to war.
But, see, Sean Gannon, like, you literally can't beat this guy enough.
He won't quit, especially at this time.
So Kimbo's punched his face up, but Sean's been in a bunch of mixed martial arts fights.
He just keeps going.
He knows, and by the way, this is only...
Boxing, right?
They're not allowed to kick.
They're not allowed to do anything else.
And Sean could kick him and strangle him if he wanted to.
And they got into a situation where there was a clinch.
And when Sean got him in a clinch, they said, no, no, no, no fucking choking.
No fucking choking.
And they all run back onto the set, like onto the gym area.
It was madness, dude.
It's fucking madness.
So Kimbo got tired because Sean Gannon's not going anywhere.
So here Sean Gannon hits him with a knee and everybody freaks out.
No, no fucking knees!
No fucking knees!
brian moses
See this?
joe rogan
They're like, no, no, no.
Only hands.
Only hands.
And so he said, no, no, no.
You just said only stand up.
Well, stand up means knees.
And they didn't agree.
So...
They figured it out, they went back to fighting, and eventually Kimbo was just collapsing.
And Shawn beats him up and Kimbo falls to the floor.
This is wild shit.
The reason why I'm saying this is not because it's the greatest technical fight or the two best fighters ever.
It was one of the greatest fights because it was one of the first times that people got together on the internet and made something crazy happen.
Like all those dudes standing around were there live.
There's maybe 20 people there.
brian moses
This is like a cockfight.
joe rogan
But it's not, because it's really like they made rules.
Like, you could go to the ground and, like, I forget what the count was, but it wasn't ten.
It was really fucking long.
So if, like, Kimbo went down at one point in time and they gave him a count...
This is wild shit, man.
Look how close everybody is.
While these guys are literally fighting for their lives.
They go to the ground and Gannon gets on top of Kimbo and he's beating him down and eventually they stop him and literally Kimbo's almost dead.
And Gannon's almost dead.
And Gannon's head at the end of this looks like a roast.
Like a rib roast.
A giant rib roast.
Look at his face.
It's crazy.
Look at that giant hematoma over his eyebrow.
Dude, he's like the elephant man.
Look at him.
brian moses
Damn.
joe rogan
Crazy.
freddie gibbs
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Insane.
brian moses
He took it.
freddie gibbs
He took it, though.
joe rogan
And they filmed it.
And they did this at a gym.
And they gambled.
This is how they did this.
I don't remember what the stakes were, but one guy was this dude who was a porn producer in Miami.
And he was bankrolling Kimbo and bringing Kimbo everywhere.
And then there was some...
You know, some sketchy characters in Massachusetts that got behind this.
And if I remember, I think Sean Gannon might have lost his job as a cop because of this.
See if that's true.
He eventually fought in the UFC. That's dope.
brian moses
Okay, good.
joe rogan
The dude was legit.
But dude, they fought to death's door.
They fought to death's door.
freddie gibbs
They did, dog.
They did.
joe rogan
To death's door.
brian moses
I remember in high school, so you know Coach T, right?
unidentified
Yeah!
brian moses
I probably told you the story last time, actually.
He always told me, he's just like, because people always wanted to fight him, because he was the big, you know, he's the big guy, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
brian moses
But he would never fight anybody, but everybody was always trying to fuck with him.
And then he was like, there's only one guy who won't fight, and this is a kid named Jason Brady.
He said, I'll never fight.
I'm like, why?
He's like, you could beat anybody's ass.
Like, I've seen you literally knock dudes out and then be like, I told you this was going to happen, and knock them out again, you know what I mean?
He was those kind of guys.
He was Kimbo Slice.
And then Coach, he said, I will never fight this cat, Jason Brady, because Jason won't stop.
joe rogan
Those guys are scary.
brian moses
That's what he said.
He's just like, you don't want to fight a nigga that's going to keep fighting you.
He's like, because I can knock you out, you're going to wake up and want to keep fighting me every day.
And I don't have time to fight you every day.
freddie gibbs
I had to go to school.
I had a nigga that we got in a fight when I was 17. And every time that we saw each other until we was about 28, we had a fight.
What?
brian moses
Just hands or no weapons, really?
freddie gibbs
It had to be at least like 15 fights.
So it was just like, until we got to the point, we saw each other in the mall with our kids, and we was just like, hey man, can we drop this shit?
brian moses
You know what I'm saying?
freddie gibbs
I'm like, can we stop this shit, man?
Because I'm going to fuck you up again, man.
You know what I mean?
So, he probably beat my ass probably like three times out of the 15. You know what I'm saying?
Because he caught me off guard.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
freddie gibbs
But for the most part, I was whooping his ass for years.
And we was just like, hey man, let's just stop this shit.
joe rogan
Seriously though, respect that you guys kept it to just fights.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, we definitely kept it to fights.
joe rogan
After all those years.
And didn't murder each other.
brian moses
That's what I'm saying.
I'm like, that's actually crazy.
freddie gibbs
That's why I fuck with him.
He my number one enemy.
Shout out to you.
You puss ass nigga, I'll whoop your ass again.
Oh no.
I'm 12 and 3 against your punk ass.
joe rogan
As long as dudes can keep it to just fighting.
freddie gibbs
That motherfucker whooped my ass in front of my mama one day.
We sitting at the table.
brian moses
What'd she say?
freddie gibbs
She said, damn, bitch-ass nigga, you got your ass whooped.
brian moses
Did you?
freddie gibbs
Your mother said that's good for her.
She was like, damn, what the fuck wrong with you, nigga?
joe rogan
It's a powerful woman right there.
freddie gibbs
That nigga, we was at restaurant.
brian moses
Exactly.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, she's like, why you let that nigga whoop you like that?
Mama Gibbs said that?
Wow.
My mama ain't no bitch-ass nigga, man.
brian moses
That's what it sounds like.
freddie gibbs
She ain't helped me either.
She said, hey, bitch-ass, you better stand up.
And I said, damn.
All right.
I'm looking at you like, damn bitch!
You ain't gonna help me?
Let me get my ass whooped.
brian moses
There's another man.
freddie gibbs
There ain't no man.
Motherfucker was 15 or some shit like that.
Little nigga, man.
We was a teenager.
We was like 17 or something like that.
He whooped my ass at the restaurant, at the table with my mama, sitting right there with me, and she ain't helped me.
brian moses
You're hilarious, bro.
joe rogan
Now, you know that for most people listening to this, you're going to think that is crazy.
You know that.
And most people are going to think, like, my life is not that hard.
My life was never that hard.
freddie gibbs
She didn't even say, hey, stop hitting.
She said...
Whoop that nigga.
And I couldn't do it.
I couldn't handle him that day.
joe rogan
Think about that.
Now think about being Jack Johnson.
Right?
Think about the levels that that guy had to go through.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
In the turn of the century, as the heavyweight champion of the world, the first black heavyweight champion, imagine.
Imagine what he had to go through.
All of our trials and tribulations.
Oh my god, I got cold here for a week.
All this shit that we have to deal with today.
I barely had any cell service.
All this shit that we have to deal with.
As horrible as it is for the people that we lose.
Overall, it's so easy in comparison to back then.
It's so easy.
freddie gibbs
Way easy.
brian moses
They say that's why we have anxiety and depression is because we don't fight lions, tigers, and bears anymore.
We're not fighting all that crazy shit back in the day.
So now it's like we're fighting just ourselves a lot because we're the kings of the mountain.
joe rogan
We just have to work out.
That's all it is.
I'm telling you right now, I'm telling you right now, from my own personal experience, the people that are filled and riddled with anxiety, the people that can't handle the existential angst of your fucking temporary existence on this weird planet flying through the galaxy.
brian moses
Rock spinning.
joe rogan
You gotta work out.
freddie gibbs
It's a stress reliever, man.
joe rogan
Blow it out of your system.
Your body has requirements, man.
Your body has some fucking requirements.
And if you don't give your body those requirements, it starts to reject you.
It starts to get angry at you and it creates problems.
freddie gibbs
It's a relationship.
I stop fucking with bitches that don't work out.
brian moses
Exactly.
You can condone that behavior.
freddie gibbs
Bitch, you don't do nothing with that shit.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
freddie gibbs
Surgery is not the answer, bitch.
joe rogan
Oh, that's the wrong answer.
freddie gibbs
My baby mama just asked me to get some new surgery shit for her because she just had a bag.
I don't give a fuck, bitch.
I said, bitch, what the fuck I care about?
I don't give a fuck if your titties hit the floor.
I already got the pussy.
Wow.
brian moses
That's your baby mama.
freddie gibbs
So?
joe rogan
Well, I can't condone that.
brian moses
I know you can.
We can't condone that.
freddie gibbs
See, that's what I'm saying.
Black dudes, we got baby mamas.
You got a wife.
I'm gonna get a wife soon, though.
You know what I'm saying?
brian moses
Kevin Federline, I think, kind of broke that mold, didn't he?
freddie gibbs
Kevin Federline is the quintessential white baby daddy.
He is the nigga that we strive to be.
joe rogan
Him and Tom Arnold when he married Roseanne.
Those are the goats.
freddie gibbs
But he got paid.
Oh, Tom Arnold got paid.
joe rogan
They both got paid.
freddie gibbs
Like a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Those are our goats, right?
brian moses
Those are our goats.
joe rogan
That's our Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson.
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, definitely.
joe rogan
I mean, in terms of men making money off of a divorce?
freddie gibbs
Kevin Federline is sitting in LA chilling.
joe rogan
He's got a Ferrari.
freddie gibbs
Right.
unidentified
He's still?
joe rogan
I don't know.
He's still making money.
freddie gibbs
He make like 80 grand a month?
Good for him.
That's nice.
For child support?
joe rogan
Yeah, child support.
freddie gibbs
Oh, my fucking God.
joe rogan
She recently won her own ability to make her own decisions.
brian moses
Oh, did she?
joe rogan
Yeah, which is crazy.
brian moses
Damn!
freddie gibbs
Hold on, won her ability?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She had to go to court.
Her dad had conservorship.
I think that's what it's called.
brian moses
Yeah.
It's in the duck, right?
joe rogan
But, bro, it's super unusual for a grown-up.
She's a real grown-up.
brian moses
She's almost 40, yeah.
joe rogan
She's almost 40. She has children.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
And her father was in control of things.
Like, that's how wild she is.
The judges up until now were like, listen, you're not ready.
unidentified
Yeah.
13 years.
brian moses
Damn.
That's almost like going for court to an appeal.
Like, hey, man, I just want to get out of jail.
I think I'm ready.
You're not ready to go back in society.
jamie vernon
13 years, he had control of her.
joe rogan
The dad had control for 13 years?
jamie vernon
From when she was 26 to now.
brian moses
Oh, from 26?
freddie gibbs
Ain't that when she went?
Didn't she go crazy or some shit at 26, though?
brian moses
You shaved your head, right?
joe rogan
Bro, who doesn't?
brian moses
Thank you.
joe rogan
Who doesn't?
brian moses
That's that quarter-life crisis.
freddie gibbs
So the father approved that federalized shit.
You need your ass whooped, motherfucker.
joe rogan
The father wanted someone with a vested interest in taking care of the children and the court decided that he would get a certain allotment every month to keep living that lifestyle.
brian moses
Yeah, exactly.
Accustomed to.
freddie gibbs
California will fuck you on the marriage shit.
brian moses
They don't even have to be married, bro.
joe rogan
You don't even have to be married.
You just live together for a certain amount of time.
freddie gibbs
That's why I would never live with a bitch.
brian moses
No, but California is the spirit airline of the states.
joe rogan
Never.
brian moses
They charge for everything.
unidentified
Perfect relationship.
joe rogan
Everything works out well.
freddie gibbs
Never again.
We've got to have separate homes.
joe rogan
You say that, but you might meet the right woman.
I'm going to change your mind.
brian moses
Thank you, Dad.
joe rogan
You never know.
Leave the door open, Freddy.
freddie gibbs
I meet the right woman every week, Joe.
unidentified
Oh, no!
joe rogan
I'll be the right woman every week.
freddie gibbs
Every week.
brian moses
You gotta let a ho be a ho, Joe.
freddie gibbs
I got the right woman outside right now.
brian moses
If I don't do ho shit, you gotta let them do that ho shit.
freddie gibbs
Come on, ball-headed ho shit.
Ball-headed ho shit is what I do.
joe rogan
It is weird if someone decides that you guys have been living so long that you're married.
I decide you're married.
Brian, I don't like it.
You've been living with that girl for 10 years.
Make her an honest woman.
freddie gibbs
Marriage is such a...
brian moses
Yeah, no, no communism over here.
joe rogan
You become common law married.
brian moses
Is that still real?
That's seven years, right?
freddie gibbs
Seven years.
brian moses
Is that still real?
Yeah, if you live together, it's common law.
freddie gibbs
I thought that was only like in Mississippi or some shit like that.
joe rogan
No, I think it's legit in California.
brian moses
Yeah, I think it is too.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
joe rogan
It's one of those weird ones.
I think this is like a time span.
Like, shit or get off the pot time span.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They give you like legally ten years.
freddie gibbs
So you got six years with a bitch that you gotta put her out, basically.
Right.
I'll put you out.
You gotta go live by yourself for you, bitch.
Because if we go past the seven, we common law, bitch.
We can't do that.
joe rogan
Okay.
brian moses
And by the way, bitch is a universal term, everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, we just love, amongst loved ones.
brian moses
Yeah.
There's no gender.
Yeah, there's no race.
It's everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, bitch is just, bitch is like, come on, man.
Like, Biden always says that.
Come on, man.
freddie gibbs
Come on, man.
I love Joe Biden.
brian moses
Oh, you put...
Alright.
joe rogan
What is it, Jamie?
brian moses
This dude's Instagram stories...
Two years.
jamie vernon
Two years you cohabitate in Texas and you might be...
joe rogan
Two years?
freddie gibbs
Two?
joe rogan
Two?
jamie vernon
I'm trying to understand though.
It might be murky, but I'm trying to...
joe rogan
What is cohabitate?
If she keeps underwear at your apartment?
brian moses
Wow.
joe rogan
What counts as cohabitate?
brian moses
Yeah, toothbrush or something?
joe rogan
I'm just going to leave one pair of shoes here.
brian moses
For two years, yeah.
joe rogan
There's a photo of her shoes in your closet.
brian moses
You got forensics there, yeah.
joe rogan
The lawyer has a fucking piece of paper.
Are these her shoes?
freddie gibbs
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
In Texas law, if she parks her cowboy boots in your saloon...
brian moses
Two years.
freddie gibbs
But Texas, I like...
unidentified
24 months.
freddie gibbs
I like their child support law because you can't get more than $2,500 a month.
joe rogan
Ever?
freddie gibbs
Ever.
No matter how much you make.
unidentified
Wow.
freddie gibbs
I think that's the law here.
Like, your bitch only get $2,500.
That's the cap.
They put a cap on you, bitch.
joe rogan
Really?
freddie gibbs
California don't give a fuck.
I heard Blake Griffin pay like...
Shit, what?
Six figures a month?
That's your man.
You remember I had him?
joe rogan
Blake Griffin is legitimately funny.
brian moses
Yeah, he's legitimately funny.
He's really good.
freddie gibbs
He got fucked on that child support shit.
brian moses
He did.
I mean, I'm hearing about it.
Yeah, it's fucked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Nigga, you know about that shit.
That shit was fucked up.
He gave that bitch like a hundred bands a month, man.
joe rogan
How much?
freddie gibbs
It's six figures.
joe rogan
A hundred a month?
brian moses
It's six figures.
That's California.
freddie gibbs
Blake, you ain't laughing about that shit, is you, Blake?
joe rogan
No, that's not funny.
freddie gibbs
But I fuck with Blake Griffin, though.
He about to get traded.
joe rogan
But wait a minute, he makes so much money that he's not sweating that.
brian moses
I mean, who knows?
freddie gibbs
Fuck sweating it.
You know what, Joe?
It ain't even about how much money I make.
It's the principle.
Me giving a bitch a hundred grand a month.
brian moses
What about the taxes that you gotta pay to the government, though?
freddie gibbs
I can't kill the government.
brian moses
Welcome to your best podcast ever, Joe.
joe rogan
This podcast just got canceled.
unidentified
No!
freddie gibbs
Nah, I won't kill the bitch.
But man, that will make me feel a way.
I will feel like you're robbing me.
Coming from the streets.
If I'm giving you a hundred grand a month, I feel like you're fucking robbing me, man.
brian moses
Yeah, I am.
Unless there's protection involved.
She ain't giving me no protection.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if that was impossible?
Imagine if there was a set standard that anyone, man or woman, upon divorcing a more wealthy party, you're allotted $50,000 a year maximum and that's it.
brian moses
But then like that person just take it.
joe rogan
But wouldn't that make relationships so much more honest?
You know what I mean?
brian moses
Legitimately, yeah.
joe rogan
There'd be girls to be like, listen.
brian moses
I'm here till we get divorced.
joe rogan
It's not even legal to hoe myself out.
So, you know, I can't do this with you.
freddie gibbs
Alimony is a motherfucker in California.
It's crazy.
brian moses
California is a motherfucker.
Again, it's the Spirit Airlines Estates.
They want all your money all the time.
freddie gibbs
I know a girl that's a lawyer.
brian moses
I can't do shit in California.
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
I know a girl that's a lawyer, and she divorced a dude, and she pays him like three grand a month, alimony.
joe rogan
She pays him.
freddie gibbs
She pays him, because she made more money.
joe rogan
Amazing.
freddie gibbs
I said, bitch, you pay more to child support.
You pay more to be at child support, bitch.
The fuck?
joe rogan
Alimony?
freddie gibbs
Because he wanted to live the lifestyle.
brian moses
Yeah, exactly.
freddie gibbs
But the person that's married for five years.
joe rogan
But that's so weird.
Live the lifestyle you're accustomed to.
Isn't life about adapting?
You got fired.
Okay?
Imagine if you got fired from the job and you're like, listen, I really enjoy driving this Ferrari, so I don't know what to tell you.
This is a lifestyle I'm accustomed to.
You might be firing me from this job, but I'm entitled to this lifestyle because I gave you all of my effort and all of my time for years.
freddie gibbs
I told that, bitch.
joe rogan
You can't say that in a job, but you can say that in a relationship.
brian moses
And this is what I'm saying about California in general because there's like 30 billion in fraud, right?
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
brian moses
30 billion in fraud.
joe rogan
In California?
brian moses
Look it up, Jamie.
I'm not Joe.
I can't say young Jamie look it up.
joe rogan
What kind of fraud?
He'll look it up.
brian moses
30 billion in fraud in California.
joe rogan
Bitcoin fraud?
brian moses
No, no, no, no.
EDD. EDD fraud.
freddie gibbs
30 billion?
brian moses
I know we've talked about this.
freddie gibbs
30 million.
brian moses
30 billion.
joe rogan
What is EDD? 30 billion.
freddie gibbs
EDD? White people don't know what EDD is.
Niggas, no.
Look, that's...
joe rogan
Oh my god, look at this.
California EDD admits paying as much as $31 billion in unemployment funds to criminals.
brian moses
And guess who got paid another couple million?
Bank of America, because they run the EDD. Employment Development Department.
freddie gibbs
You ain't never heard of nobody that got the EDD? I know.
brian moses
I'm remembering it.
freddie gibbs
It's an inner city thing, Joe.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm remembering it.
freddie gibbs
It's a ghetto thing, man.
unidentified
And it's like 70% in St. Louis, it's Miami, it's Chicago.
brian moses
Yeah, it's North Carolina.
joe rogan
What is it?
freddie gibbs
EDD, man.
Hey, man.
Look.
brian moses
Talk to him.
freddie gibbs
A lot of niggas that's looking rich right now, man.
Off that EDD, man.
You know what I'm saying?
They got that EDD. You know what I mean?
Everybody got a check.
You know what I mean?
Because everybody was trying to start businesses or fake like they were starting businesses.
You know what I'm saying?
And they ran it up.
You know what I'm saying?
And they was getting a credit card.
They had to put a goddamn sign in the Gucci store in Rodeo that said no EDD. Whoa.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what you know.
Because niggas went straight to Rodeo.
brian moses
They were there, Joe.
With the EDD. I sent you that video, too, with that dude.
He looked like one of the Migos, and he was just throwing the money out because it wasn't his.
He had 60-something EDD cards that weren't his.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
So it's like you'll get a bunch of cards.
So what they do, they get a bunch of cards on somebody's name.
joe rogan
Exclusive.
freddie gibbs
And be running it up, man.
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
He's got that ad blocker he's going to remove.
This is hilarious.
Exclusive.
Posh Beverly Hills stores are being plagued with customers.
Look how they put Customers in quotes.
freddie gibbs
Customers?
brian moses
What does that mean?
They're paying.
joe rogan
No, they're actual customers.
Using stolen unemployment benefit debit cards.
They're still customers.
They're just thieves.
Lots of cash from ATMs using the cards.
freddie gibbs
Because you got your card, you can get a thousand a day off your card in the ATM. Look at this.
joe rogan
Wow, that's crazy.
As police crack down and urge boutiques like Gucci and Louis Vuitton to vet shoppers.
Now, here's a thought.
What do you think?
We know that Jack Johnson and Jack Dempsey, they had a struggle.
They had a struggle.
That's who they were.
No EDD. With all the resources that people have today, do you think it would be possible to give what Andrew Yang's idea, have a universal basic income that covers everything so no one ever has to worry?
In terms of like, you have food, you have shelter, 100%.
freddie gibbs
Basically like they do in Switzerland.
joe rogan
Similar.
Yeah, similar to that.
Because we all want to think that there's like a certain level of struggle that you have to endure.
But where does that start?
Where does it start?
Does it start with you abandoning your children in the woods?
No, it doesn't.
Does it start with every man for himself?
No, we don't do that anymore.
Does it start with every town attacks the next town?
No, no, we don't do that anymore either.
Okay, where does it...
Where do we decide we take care of everybody's medical expenses, everybody's food, and everybody's housing?
And then have all of our resources into helping everybody who comes out of the place that has free food, free housing, and free medical expenses.
Everybody that comes out of there, and you find out what they're good at.
And you help them.
And you make a better country.
brian moses
That's great.
You make a better human race.
You make a better world.
joe rogan
We're not talking about breathing underwater.
brian moses
Exactly.
joe rogan
This shit could be done.
brian moses
It can be.
This is the problem I have.
That's what I'm saying.
We were talking about the food deserts offline a little bit, and I was like, of all the money happening, of all the shit that everybody's saying, I'm like, I still haven't seen anybody put a Vons or a CVS in any of the hoods or rural communities, the sticks, or the barrios anywhere, but they keep talking about it.
We keep talking about vitamins and talking about this virus, but nobody's doing it.
freddie gibbs
Nah.
brian moses
They just keep saying, stay in the house.
freddie gibbs
It's capitalism, man.
joe rogan
I think there's plenty of struggle.
brian moses
I can't spend or make money if I can't get out the house.
freddie gibbs
I seen a picture yesterday with a dump truck full of food that they was getting rid of.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Oh, I've seen some of those.
freddie gibbs
That's what I'm saying.
So it's just like, we waste so much.
brian moses
We waste a lot of food.
freddie gibbs
A lot of food in this country, man.
joe rogan
Anthony Bourdain, before he died, was doing a documentary on it.
I don't know what the status of that is, if they're going to continue doing it.
brian moses
A lot of food.
Yeah, the fact that there's food pantries, there's tons of food being wasted.
joe rogan
Well, if you go to a restaurant, how many times you go to a restaurant, you leave like a quarter of your steak on the plate?
brian moses
Thank you.
joe rogan
Do you want to take it home?
Nah, I'm good.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're like, okay, now it's just going to get thrown out.
brian moses
Hey, the restaurants that were just open, the comedy store had just closed, right?
And they had, you know, they had food, they had to go back, they just had to throw it out.
freddie gibbs
You just wasted all them goddamn eggs, motherfucker, at the breakfast right now.
brian moses
Exactly, yeah, exactly.
freddie gibbs
All them fucking eggs.
You're talking, I don't want them eggs.
brian moses
You did the same thing, by the way, you was there.
freddie gibbs
You ate the stuff.
brian moses
We had the same, we had the same plate.
freddie gibbs
Shit was good.
brian moses
You didn't eat the whole thing.
freddie gibbs
Barbecue or taco.
brian moses
You didn't eat that shit either, nigga.
freddie gibbs
I ate all the meat.
brian moses
You eat the eggs, though.
joe rogan
They got a different kind of Mexican food out here.
That Tex-Mex.
brian moses
I already lost on somebody at the bus, bro.
joe rogan
It's fun.
We all love it, don't we?
freddie gibbs
We do.
Who doesn't love throwing up?
Waste all the goddamn food, man.
brian moses
It's the same fucking thing, though.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
If you know that that dude knows that you love him, and you know this is all fun, we're all having a good time, you can throw your friend deep under the bus.
brian moses
Oh, my God.
Deep.
joe rogan
And it's a test.
It's a test of your friendship.
It's a test.
freddie gibbs
You can't be my friend if I can't throw you under the bus.
joe rogan
I can't talk to you.
I can't hang out with you.
You get offended by shit?
brian moses
As long as it's cool and funny, as long as I'm just defending myself in front of a bunch of people I'm attracted to.
joe rogan
There's a balance.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
It's like, this nigga got herpes and he's in an outbreak right now.
brian moses
Jesus Christ!
freddie gibbs
Right.
brian moses
He still pees in the bed.
You know, like that kind of shit.
freddie gibbs
I mean, you know, when it comes to the hoes, you got a dirty Mac to your friend sometimes.
I'm like, hey, fuck this nigga.
I'm like, bitch, don't fuck with this nigga.
He ain't even got gas.
brian moses
Man, I had a roommate who did that same shit.
There was a girl he was so into, and I didn't want her anymore what was happening.
And she came over because she wanted to...
See what's gonna happen.
And then he was like, man, don't fuck with that guy.
He's an asshole.
And I'm like, Negro, I pay you a rent.
Like, what are you talking about?
freddie gibbs
We were just talking about that shit.
I dirty-macked the basketball players all the time.
I can't compete with them motherfuckers.
They got 100 men.
I gotta talk shit about they bitch ass so I can fuck they bitch.
Fuck you, nigga.
Hell yeah, but dirty-macked the fuck out shit.
Punk-ass NBA nigga.
joe rogan
Freddie Gibbs, ladies and gentlemen.
I recommend his Essentials on iTunes.
It fueled me through my workout today.
It's raw and gritty and honest.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
freddie gibbs
And shout out to Instagram.
Fuck y'all niggas for banning me, man.
I'm coming back.
joe rogan
Tell me what happened.
freddie gibbs
Man, they banned my page, man.
joe rogan
Moses told me that was the most attractive thing about you.
brian moses
Dog.
The funniest...
I mean, like, legendary.
You wouldn't believe it he was getting away with.
You're like, how do you get this shit?
freddie gibbs
I was just posting all kinds of shit, like kids getting beat up and, you know, people falling and, you know, just hilarious.
joe rogan
Crackheads eating ass.
freddie gibbs
Crackheads eating ass.
joe rogan
Oh, you put that one on your Instagram?
freddie gibbs
Definitely.
joe rogan
I saw that one.
brian moses
It was more than once.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
brian moses
He put a raccoon last week that was frozen here in Austin.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
We need to find out what is going on in people's brains for real.
We need some sort of Instagram where they don't give a fuck.
What was that live leak?
Was that what it was called?
freddie gibbs
Live Leaks, that shit was lit.
joe rogan
Yeah, Live Leak was the place where you see the most death animals pulling people out of cars.
brian moses
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
People getting hit by buses.
freddie gibbs
I'm about to start that.
I got that app on the way.
Right now.
jamie vernon
The top video is a little kid falling out of a moving vehicle.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
A little kid falling out of a moving vehicle.
Live Leak is all like the worst shit you can possibly see.
freddie gibbs
The worst shit ever.
I love Live Leaks.
joe rogan
The worst shit.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like the fucking engine blowing up on the United Airlines flight.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I posted that shit on my shit.
On my Instagram.
joe rogan
Pacing a...
Passenger allegedly kicked off a Florida flight, like that kind of shit.
Protesters played mariachi music gathered in front of Ted Cruz's house.
freddie gibbs
You know, really, to be honest, this ain't shit.
My Instagram page is way better than LiveLeaks.
I be having shit before LiveLeaks get it.
brian moses
Someone needs to step in.
I got you there late, but man, his Instagram story, they're legendary.
Legitimately legendary.
freddie gibbs
I got a new one right now.
joe rogan
Is this you always popping?
freddie gibbs
No, that ain't me.
joe rogan
No, that's not me.
freddie gibbs
I'm Cocaine Bunny.
joe rogan
Oh, cocaine bunny.
freddie gibbs
That's my fake one.
brian moses
Yeah, you can't tell nobody.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, you can't tell nobody.
That's my fake one.
joe rogan
Well, we won't let anybody know.
brian moses
Bro, you put some shit on today.
joe rogan
Can you beep that out?
Can we beep out what he said it was?
Just for the fuck of it?
brian moses
Fuck it.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I want to be able to...
Subscribe.
brian moses
Yeah, you should subscribe.
joe rogan
I want to be one of your followers.
brian moses
Yeah, because he has like categories and shit.
That's why it's so funny because they have like, the fuck?
And it's just like, it's some crazy random shit.
You're like, what the fuck is this?
joe rogan
Listen, man, they're all going to eventually have to give up and let people be uncensored.
freddie gibbs
They are.
joe rogan
We have to find out what people want and don't want.
And if you keep people from talking, you fuck up the whole thing.
You fuck up their growth.
You fuck up everybody's growth.
brian moses
Yeah, because people can't just unsubscribe.
That's the beauty of America.
That's why people keep saying, like, we need to end racism.
I'm like, wait, you're going to end freedom of thought?
joe rogan
Yeah, but the thing is, like, they're doing it for profit.
This is why they're panicking.
Because, like, Gatorade or whoever, Toyota, they don't want to advertise on some shit where you're talking about, like, real things people are actually thinking about.
Like, anything that gets dark.
Yeah.
Imagine if, like, no one gave a fuck about porn.
If porn was normal.
Like, you brush your teeth, you watch porn.
Everybody does it.
It's normal.
brian moses
Right, and nobody's outraged.
joe rogan
How much money is being missed because of our shame?
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
You feel me?
brian moses
Look at the drug industry.
joe rogan
You're telling me you don't buy Nikes and Jerkoff?
freddie gibbs
That doesn't make any sense.
brian moses
Bruh.
joe rogan
That makes no sense to me.
brian moses
You don't drive a- It's a billion dollar industry for a reason.
It's the same thing as the cartels.
joe rogan
I was going to say drive a Tesla, but Tesla, that's how much this motherfucker understands things.
He doesn't advertise.
You don't see a Tesla ad?
freddie gibbs
Not at all.
joe rogan
That's the number one car company in America.
You don't see an ad for them.
brian moses
No, it's all word of mouth.
joe rogan
He doesn't even get a discount.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
If Elon Musk wants to buy a car from Tesla, he has to pay.
brian moses
I like that.
joe rogan
Full price.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
joe rogan
No one gets a discount.
No one gets a discount.
Everybody pays full price.
Even me.
brian moses
I made this motherfucker.
I like that.
joe rogan
Even him.
brian moses
I like that.
That's the way you should be.
freddie gibbs
Damn, that's crazy.
brian moses
I say the same shit about politicians.
They should move to the hood.
Don't live in the White House.
joe rogan
Jamie, I'm going to send you some shit about Gavin Newsom.
freddie gibbs
Ain't no goddamn politician going to move to the hood.
brian moses
Cory Booker did.
freddie gibbs
Mary and Barry did.
He smoked crack, too.
brian moses
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
You know, I met Mary and Barry when he was just re-elected.
He was just re-elected.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
brian moses
After the crack, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
After the crack.
brian moses
It's like, 94?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Jamie, I just...
freddie gibbs
Crack his back, nigga.
joe rogan
It was in 94. Maybe it was after.
I don't know.
I was in the studio.
jamie vernon
It disappeared.
It was only available for a second.
joe rogan
I think I texted it to you, though.
freddie gibbs
Mary and Barry was like, bitch, set me up!
brian moses
Shut me up.
You were smoking crack, though, bro.
joe rogan
No, no, this is what happened.
We were sitting in a studio.
It was me and Jim Norton and Obi and Anthony, and I forget who else was a guest, but Mary and Barry was walking right by these big glass doors at Sirius XM. And he was just walking right by.
He was on some other show.
Someone go, go grab him!
brian moses
Go grab him!
joe rogan
Get him in here!
So we open up the door, and Marion Barry just walks right in.
And he sits down.
And then, is he gone?
Is he dead?
brian moses
Yeah, Marion Barry's dead.
joe rogan
Okay.
Rest in peace.
freddie gibbs
Rest in peace, Marion Barry.
You one of the most famous crack-smoking ass niggas of all time.
joe rogan
I'm sitting there, and I know I got a couple seconds with this dude.
And so all my predatory instincts kick in.
And I'm like, we gotta get right to this.
They're gonna pull him out of here.
As soon as they know what this show's all about.
Because we're a bunch of comedians.
Fucking high.
It's 7 o'clock in the morning.
brian moses
What did y'all say to me?
joe rogan
I was high as fuck, dude.
I was eating pot lollipops and shit.
And I was like, we talked about him smoking crack.
And one of the things, I brought it up really quick.
But he said, he goes, hold on, no one knows what's in that pipe?
That's what he said.
freddie gibbs
Oh, shit.
unidentified
No one knows what was in that fight.
freddie gibbs
That's the illest.
brian moses
Wow.
I would vote for that guy because that's a hell of a politician.
joe rogan
It's a good move.
I like what he's saying.
I like what he's saying.
I like how he's trying to do it.
You know what I'm saying?
freddie gibbs
He's like, no, that's tobacco.
joe rogan
You know, it's like no one knows what's in a hot dog.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
I mean, you see the bun.
You see the hot dog.
Can you give an...
What percentage would you get correct in terms of ingredients?
brian moses
Right.
Right, though.
joe rogan
Like, right now!
If they give you a test.
brian moses
I wouldn't even.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian moses
I wouldn't even.
I'd be like, I don't know.
Pigtail, pig butt.
Who knows what's in there?
joe rogan
Dicks and feet.
brian moses
Yeah, exactly.
freddie gibbs
Who knows?
Feet and all kinds of shit in the hot dog.
joe rogan
All kinds of shit.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, damn.
joe rogan
So that was it.
Oh, there's an audio?
Oh, see, play it.
Oh, yeah, Jim Jeffries was in there, too.
unidentified
Set it up.
And we don't know what was in that pipe.
joe rogan
I told you.
I fucking told you.
You got two things playing at the same time.
Yeah, that was it.
We don't know what was in that pipe.
What is this Wii shit?
unidentified
They used that situation, set it up, and we don't know what was in that pipe.
The jury didn't convict me of anything at the vista.
And so that crack story started with that.
joe rogan
Go before that, because let's see how I brought it up to him.
Because I remember being really high.
unidentified
In D.C. and going, am I going to smoke a little crack now and then?
joe rogan
Smoking crack came back and won again.
Right?
Wait, go back to the beginning of that.
unidentified
You're listening to Opie and Anthony.
Is that Marion Barry?
Bring him in!
joe rogan
Oh, hilarious.
unidentified
Get him in here, Jimmy!
Get him in here!
joe rogan
Marion Barry is right outside.
Former governor of Washington, D.C., got busted smoking crap.
unidentified
Governor of Washington, D.C. That's how high I was.
One of the biggest comebacks ever.
joe rogan
Got caught smoking crap.
Washington, D.C., you can be a mayor, but it's not really a city.
freddie gibbs
It's not.
joe rogan
I'm half right.
brian moses
Right, right.
It's the wrong...
joe rogan
He is the mayor, for sure, but Washington, D.C. is not exactly a city.
Most of the population agree.
They're like, sure, we do.
Why not?
They went to the worst neighborhoods and found the worst crackheads and interviewed them.
Mr. Marion Barry walked in here.
unidentified
Give him a microphone right now.
freddie gibbs
Wow.
Where the fuck was this at?
unidentified
What happened?
freddie gibbs
We'll be nice.
unidentified
We'll be nice.
brian moses
We just wanted to say hi to Mary.
unidentified
How many are you in here?
One, two, three, four.
joe rogan
Yeah, we got a lot of people in here today.
brian moses
No, no, no, no.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan
A story of an inspirational story to a lot of people because things went bad at one point and then all of a sudden you came back and You know Jim not when you got redemption Jim Norton is like the nicest guy look how he sets that up like Marion Barry walks in and Jim Norton sets it up like Like, he's nice to the guy.
Let's him know.
brian moses
We're going to talk about your crack.
unidentified
It's truly so important because most of the media outside of Washington, D.C., most of the people outside of Washington, D.C., only know me through 15-second news clips or 30-second news clips or some negative article in the newspaper.
They don't know about my 50 years of service and 35 years of political life in Washington and being very successful helping a lot of people.
So that's why that's important.
I was walking by and heard you all say something about Being popped for smoking crack.
Put that in context.
The FBI spent 25 to 40 million dollars trying to entrap me.
They couldn't find anything financial on me because I don't dip into the till.
They used that situation, set it up, and we don't know what was in that pipe.
Because the jury didn't convict me of anything at the Vista.
And so that crack story started with that.
But there's been no evidence.
We don't know what was in it.
I mean, I was up there for some other reason, quite frankly.
brian moses
What did you think was that?
unidentified
I took one drag on it.
Do you feel that they were trying to railroad you because they didn't like what you were doing?
freddie gibbs
What year did he get caught smoking crack?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
brian moses
Here's the thing.
joe rogan
I don't think anybody did, but here's the thing.
So what?
What if he was just drinking?
brian moses
Right, though.
joe rogan
Listen to all the things he just said there.
Now, I've changed my perspective since this happened.
Getting older and more experienced in life.
But also realizing, like, hey, the guy, if he did a good job as mayor, who gives a shit if he gets high?
brian moses
Who cares?
joe rogan
If he gets home and shooting heroin, he's got a butt plug up his ass and Oculus Rift on, and he's tripping balls on ketamine, why do I give a fuck?
Is this guy saving education?
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Is he providing health care?
Is he making it safer for people?
Is he bringing people together?
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
Is he letting people know, hey, we have more in common?
FBI tried to kill me.
Well, they might have.
brian moses
That's the thing.
freddie gibbs
How did they have the hidden camera?
joe rogan
FBI's killed a lot of people.
brian moses
Yeah.
As the governor of DC, yeah.
freddie gibbs
Who hid the camera?
That's what I want to know.
Who hid the camera?
joe rogan
Like Willie D said, you gotta let a ho be a ho.
And sometimes some gals need a little money, they'll hire a camera.
unidentified
This is what you gotta do, Cindy Lou.
freddie gibbs
Stupid ass bitch, hear the camera.
We ain't smoking crack, bitch.
All this good crack in here, you wanna have a camera.
brian moses
And the thing is, I mean, for the most part, he's partying.
He's just like, hey, listen, man.
Why is it bad?
joe rogan
Why is it bad?
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Does he fuck up his job?
Here's the thing.
If he shows up Monday morning, he's cracked out and decides to nuke China.
You know?
What kind of bombs we got?
You're like, okay, okay, okay.
brian moses
Yeah, if he's a real...
Yeah, if he's like a degenerate crackhead.
But he wasn't a...
He was a functioning...
joe rogan
But what if he just sits in a chair?
What if he sits in a chair?
brian moses
I never heard.
joe rogan
What if he's got a lazy boy and he puts his feet up and he just keeps pounding?
Just keeps pounding whiskey.
brian moses
Your Columbia professor.
joe rogan
Yeah, it just gets...
No, way worse than that guy.
What if he's doing what's legal, but he's in a chair and he's just not going anywhere, just pounding it?
How come that's okay?
brian moses
Well, talk about the effects of crack, Freddy.
Freddy?
Freddy?
freddie gibbs
Cracked out Freddy.
brian moses
Talk about the effects of crack.
freddie gibbs
Everybody handled drugs differently, man.
joe rogan
Put that up there, dear Jimmy.
Marion Barry, 76, says further down in the interview that he believes the FBI was trying to get him to smoke a substance as high as 90% pure cocaine.
unidentified
Damn.
freddie gibbs
Damn, bitch.
joe rogan
And chemists at Barry's subsequent trial testified that the drug used in the sting operation was in fact 93% pure cocaine.
Holy shit.
So they might have been...
They catfished him.
Yeah.
They might have been trying to get him to die.
freddie gibbs
Well, I'm going to tell you this right now.
joe rogan
Oh my God, look at this.
They had an EMT on the spot.
brian moses
Oh, they did try to kill him, for real.
joe rogan
Yeah, not only unusual, but rare in the history of the FBI. Barry noted as he offered evidence to support his claims, the FBI attempted to kill me.
Why would they have an EMT on the scene if they weren't trying?
freddie gibbs
Wow.
brian moses
We had to let him inhale.
joe rogan
It says at the bottom, the FBI official says, the purpose of the medical standby was to provide potential medical attention to Marion Barry should his criminal activities require it.
His criminal activities that they brought the fucking coke for!
freddie gibbs
They brought the coke!
They made this nigga smoke crazy!
brian moses
This is my problem with QAnon, Joe!
They don't talk about this shit!
They don't talk about this shit!
They don't talk about Coin& Tell Pro, they don't talk about the Tuskegee experience, they don't talk about Marion Barry being set up by the FBI, they only talk about weird, these are people trying to fuck kids!
unidentified
Wow.
freddie gibbs
I never thought...
brian moses
They never talk about that shit.
It's always like Oprah and Jeffrey Epstein.
unidentified
But you don't want to talk about the $4.4 billion that the Catholic Church was paid.
joe rogan
People are tribal.
They're tribal.
And they don't hang out with you.
They don't hang out with people that are interested in that or that story.
If you're hanging around with a bunch of flat earthers that believe that there's a basement somewhere where all the kids get fucked, that's all you think about all day long.
brian moses
But that actually happened to Mary and Barry.
joe rogan
You don't have time to listen to Cornel West.
You don't have time.
brian moses
We're just reading FBI documents every once in a while.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
It's like you're so wrapped up in your own bullshit.
You're so wrapped up in being tribal.
You don't have time.
freddie gibbs
I thought Marion Barry bought that crack off the corner.
He smokes them.
You're talking about some 90%.
I was like, that ain't no regular crack.
That's some FBI crack.
joe rogan
FBI crack.
brian moses
That's Iran-Contra crack.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, that's some different kind of crack.
Ain't no crack 90% cocaine.
brian moses
93% they even said.
joe rogan
Me listening to him talking about it has changed my perspective.
brian moses
I bet.
joe rogan
Also, me listening to me describe the video that I saw where all these people are like, nothing wrong with smuggling a little crack every now and then.
I remember seeing that.
I remember thinking at the time, these people are crazy.
They reelected him, and look, they don't care about crack.
brian moses
They don't get it, right.
joe rogan
Now...
As a grown man who understands media, I realize, oh no, no, there's probably a broad range of opinions.
There's probably a lot of people that go, hey, what do you give a fuck if he's smoking crack, if he does a great job with the budget?
I don't know if he did.
freddie gibbs
Who gives a fuck?
joe rogan
I don't know if he did.
I literally know nothing about the guys.
brian moses
If he's bad, don't re-elect him.
joe rogan
Exactly.
freddie gibbs
But they did, though.
joe rogan
Right, they did.
brian moses
Yeah, but I don't think, was he bad?
That's all I'm trying to figure out.
joe rogan
Maybe they missed him.
Maybe the new guy got in place and he was boring and maybe Marion did a good job and smoked crack.
That's possible too.
Like Burt Kreischer.
He's a funny comedian and he's a drunk.
brian moses
I was like, dude, Burt smokes crack?
joe rogan
No.
How much is there a difference?
Well, one's illegal.
That's it.
That's it.
That's the only difference.
I don't know if he did a good job.
brian moses
I don't either.
joe rogan
But let's assume he did.
But if he didn't do a good job, you should be mad at him for the job that he did that he fucked up.
Not for the fact that someone who set him up busted him smoking crack with a fucking EMT camera.
An EMT crew behind them.
brian moses
Hey, this shit's fire, bro.
You need to stay on him just in case he has a heart attack like Lin Bias.
joe rogan
That's crazy as fuck.
brian moses
That's Lin Bias scale coke that they gave him.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, how hilarious is it that because cocaine's illegal, 93% is crazy high?
brian moses
Right!
unidentified
It is!
freddie gibbs
But I want to know, how did they get the...
brian moses
You wouldn't pick a virus that's 93%?
joe rogan
Imagine if you got 93% vodka.
Where's my vodka, bitch?
7% is water, you fucking cunts!
brian moses
It's Coors Light!
freddie gibbs
I want to know how they got that in a crack recipe.
93% cocaine?
It's mostly soda.
It's mostly baking soda.
brian moses
That wasn't crack he was smoking.
He was smoking cocaine.
joe rogan
It's the same thing according to Carl Hart.
brian moses
He probably thought it was weed.
He's just like little Cocoa Puffs ain't nothing.
freddie gibbs
It's different.
joe rogan
It's also different in where you're doing it.
If you're in Vegas and you're in a fucking suite and you're overlooking the neon signs and you're doing coke, you're doing coke.
brian moses
Remember the governor who didn't win in Florida, the black dude?
joe rogan
Which governor?
brian moses
Sorry, he's not the governor.
He was running for it.
I forget the cat's name now.
The black dude from Florida.
He was running against DeSantis.
And he lost, but he was close.
It was like the closest ever a black dude had ever come to taking governor.
Anyway, last year he got caught in a hotel room doing meth.
With a couple dudes.
joe rogan
Let him go.
freddie gibbs
With a couple dudes.
Let it go.
brian moses
He just came out, I want to say a few months ago, on Oprah, or one of those Oprah-type talk shows, and said, oh yeah, I'm bi, my wife is cool with it, and I like to party a little bit.
joe rogan
Okay, he's Alexander the Great.
brian moses
But people loved his politics.
They were going to vote for this guy, because he's a black dude, and he had great politics, against DeSantis and his crazy Florida politics, right?
joe rogan
Right.
brian moses
And they were like, we like this guy.
And all of a sudden it was just like, oh shit.
freddie gibbs
Damn, you smoke meth.
joe rogan
He smokes meth and hangs out with dudes.
brian moses
He's bi.
But who gives a fuck?
Exactly.
joe rogan
Do the job.
brian moses
Do the job.
A year ago.
joe rogan
Look, if you had to choose between a guy who wears a wig, who has giant fake eyelashes, and rubber lips, but balances LA's economy to a T. Bro, look at Marv Albert.
Keeps all the restaurants open.
brian moses
Look at Marv Albert, one of the greatest announcers in history.
joe rogan
Yes!
Like to wear heels!
freddie gibbs
Yeah, freak!
joe rogan
He likes to get crazy.
freddie gibbs
I thought he just bit a bitch on the ass.
joe rogan
That too!
unidentified
That too!
brian moses
Tag a nigga that eat ass.
freddie gibbs
Tag a nigga that eat ass.
Marvin Albert.
joe rogan
According to the document, an incapacitated Gillum.
brian moses
Hilarious.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who's Gillum?
brian moses
Andrew Gillum, right?
joe rogan
Had been found by police in Miami Beach hotel room with a male sex worker, baggies that the cops suspected contained crystal meth and other narcotics.
And a third man.
freddie gibbs
Damn, they ran a train on that ass, bitch.
unidentified
A third man.
joe rogan
A third man who called 9-1-1.
freddie gibbs
Nigga smoked meth and got a train ran on his ass.
joe rogan
I think that's what I'm going to title my book.
A third man who called 9-1-1.
brian moses
I like that.
freddie gibbs
A third man.
brian moses
It's a memoir.
joe rogan
That's going to be my book.
unidentified
And a third man who called 9-1-1.
joe rogan
A third man who called 9-1-1.
unidentified
The third man that called 911. And the third man who called 911. Who's the third man?
brian moses
Yeah, because by the way, they didn't even listen to that dude.
They didn't listen to his job or nothing.
They just said, this is a sex worker.
freddie gibbs
This other dude works at Carl Jr. It was a rich dude in LA. Oh, I know.
joe rogan
You're talking about the guy who donated to the party?
brian moses
It was purposely drugging these sex workers.
unidentified
He was drugging the sex worker dudes and killing them.
joe rogan
More than one!
freddie gibbs
Pull him up, please.
brian moses
Pull that bitch ass thing up.
joe rogan
Ed Buck.
brian moses
Ed Buck.
freddie gibbs
That's his name, Ed Buck?
joe rogan
Wait a minute, is that the...
jamie vernon
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's him.
joe rogan
But isn't there a Joe Buck?
brian moses
Joe Buck is...
Joe Buck on Fox.
joe rogan
He's a sports guy.
brian moses
I got panic.
joe rogan
I thought we were putting the dirty shame on the wrong dude.
brian moses
No, different...
No relation.
freddie gibbs
His name is Ed Buck.
joe rogan
I'm sorry, Joe Buck.
freddie gibbs
Ed Buck, is he in jail?
brian moses
Look at him like Joe Buck.
freddie gibbs
Ed Buck killed a lot of people, man.
joe rogan
Ed Buck's trial has been postponed again.
brian moses
Because he's got money.
joe rogan
And further delay could follow.
freddie gibbs
See?
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Because he got money.
brian moses
Because he was a huge Democratic super donor.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
The previous delayed criminal trial of Ed Buck on federal charges relating to the methamphetamine overdose deaths of two black men on separate occasions at his former residence in West Hollywood has been rescheduled from next week to April 20th.
freddie gibbs
Right, you OD'ing.
brian moses
Yeah, because Buck would actually administer the needles to these cats.
joe rogan
Bro, Tom Segura sent me a video that will haunt me for the rest of my time on this planet.
And he does this show.
Tom Segura does these Your Mom's House podcasts where people have to pay to see it.
And they'll stream shit.
There's no fucking way you could ever put on...
YouTube or Vimeo.
brian moses
One of them.
joe rogan
With these guys fisting each other.
And I'm talking elbow deep.
It's madness.
I mean madness.
You're watching this happen.
These people are not going to survive.
freddie gibbs
Two dudes.
joe rogan
A bunch of guys.
A lot of guys are doing this.
brian moses
Calisthenics.
joe rogan
They're having these prolapses.
These anal prolapses.
brian moses
Assholes coming out.
joe rogan
This other guy grabs a hold of the two of them and rubs them together.
brian moses
Oh, I heard about this video.
Rubs the prolapsed anuses.
joe rogan
Rubs them together like they're sea cucumbers.
Okay?
Like you've...
Bro.
brian moses
Sex stunts, man.
Those are sex stunts.
joe rogan
You gotta realize, there's people out there that don't care.
They think of things a different way than you or I. So a nigga flip two assholes inside out.
Inside out.
Like a sock.
Like, you ever take your jacket off and you try to put it back on and you realize, oh, I forgot my hoodie.
It's inside out.
brian moses
Rappers ain't doing that shit, Fred.
Rappers ain't doing that shit.
jamie vernon
Did Tom find that or did someone see it and think of Tom Segura instantly?
brian moses
And like, Tom has to see this.
joe rogan
That's a very good question, Jamie.
freddie gibbs
There's some Eric Andre shit flipping assholes.
joe rogan
If Eric Andre was free, if he wasn't contained by cable television, he would be able to show all the assholes.
brian moses
That's why the internet is great because you can't find shit like that.
freddie gibbs
He would show a lot of assholes.
brian moses
He would!
joe rogan
He would show whatever he wants to show.
Maybe he would be less weird if he could be free.
brian moses
Right!
He'd be like, oh, that's normal.
Yeah, he's just showing assholes being rubbed together.
freddie gibbs
That's great.
joe rogan
You know what's really crazy?
That YouTube has like a stranglehold on video online.
Video online seems so simple.
brian moses
It was, wasn't it?
joe rogan
Everybody has an iPhone.
Everybody's iPhone makes videos.
How the fuck is there only a YouTube?
freddie gibbs
Right.
brian moses
That is funny.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
freddie gibbs
That's why I'm about to start Fredster.
jamie vernon
No, Freddy's getting out.
He's drifting all the way out of camera.
joe rogan
He's got to slide over.
There we go.
There you go.
brian moses
We're getting crazy.
Didn't Joe Biden say something about low-income black people knowing how to use the internet?
freddie gibbs
He said that yesterday.
brian moses
Even though they have smartphones?
freddie gibbs
He said black people can't get online to get in line for the COVID vaccine.
He said we got too many people that can't get online.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
You watch him talk and they can't control him.
They let him out there.
He's like a 1920s dude.
And they wind him up.
They fill him up with Adderall.
And they push him on the stage.
And he says some 1920s shit.
And they coach him.
He's like, oh gosh, Darren, do I said that?
Did I said that?
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
He said some crazy shit.
freddie gibbs
He said black kids are just as good as white kids.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
He said poor kids could learn just as good as white kids.
brian moses
That's what he said.
joe rogan
And everybody was like, it's okay.
He's not Trump.
It's okay.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, it's okay.
He's not Trump.
freddie gibbs
I'm like, come on, Joe.
brian moses
Come on, Joe.
freddie gibbs
Didn't Joe fill on some asses and shit, too?
joe rogan
This is all unnecessary.
freddie gibbs
Did he do some bullshit with some sexual shit?
brian moses
Yeah, he sniffed heads.
joe rogan
He sniffs people.
brian moses
He sniffs people.
joe rogan
Not that big a deal.
freddie gibbs
Oh, okay.
brian moses
Cocaine Joe.
freddie gibbs
Let my black ass go sniff a bit.
joe rogan
Hell no!
brian moses
They'll ban cocaine.
I'm getting me too.
freddie gibbs
If I hug bitches and start smelling them, I'm getting me too.
joe rogan
It's like a wolf smelling your baby.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like a wolf got up to your baby and was like this.
brian moses
Like Joe, what the fuck you doing?
freddie gibbs
How come nobody really talked about how like Joe, like one of his best buddies was in the KKK. I don't think that was one of his best buddies, right?
joe rogan
It was like one dude that went to something.
brian moses
He's in his top eight on MySpace, but he ain't his best buddy.
joe rogan
It's not good.
I'm not defending it.
I don't think they were hanging out together, and he's like, I get it.
I get it.
Let's just lie about it in front of the cameras.
I don't think it was one of his best buddies.
unidentified
Yeah, he's like, yeah, we fish.
joe rogan
Back before the internet, they thought they could do shit like that.
brian moses
Listen, Joe is one of the guys back in the 70s who was saying, I don't want to segregate schools because I don't want a racial jungle.
But he's come a long way.
He hasn't been in the presidency without a black person yet.
joe rogan
Well, here's the 1994 crime bill.
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
He signed that.
joe rogan
How many people are in jail because of that right now?
Come on.
While you and I and you, while we're all sitting here, how many people are in a cage right now and may be listening to this on a smuggled phone?
brian moses
I'm sorry, fellas.
joe rogan
There's guys out there that are listening to this on a smuggled phone.
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
And this guy's in jail off that three strike shit that Kamala Harris was pushing in California.
You know what I'm saying?
She fucked up a lot of families too.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think that Trump should have been the president anymore.
But we gotta look at these two motherfuckers that we elected and be like, we gotta understand, we elected the fucking police.
brian moses
But maybe that's the problem.
We need to have a five party system.
Because this is bullshit what's happening.
You're just kind of funneled into these two things that may not represent you.
freddie gibbs
Exactly.
brian moses
But then it's also like, well, there's so many geeks running.
freddie gibbs
Right.
brian moses
Like, this is crazy.
Listen, I don't care what you...
I'm not in the aisle.
You know that.
You're not in it either.
So I'm saying, like, you look at a Ted Cruz, you're just like, how the fuck do people keep voting this guy in?
This guy won't defend his wife when somebody calls her ugly.
By the way, Heidi Cruz isn't ugly.
joe rogan
She's not ugly.
freddie gibbs
She's not.
unidentified
Yeah, but compared to Trump's wife...
Trump's wife will literally get you.
brian moses
Pound for pound, that's probably the baddest first lady in history.
freddie gibbs
The baddest bitch to ever come to the White House.
joe rogan
If Trump's wife was double-blind, placebo-controlled, studied on getting guys to leave their wives, we'd have real problems.
There's something about that accent, too.
brian moses
That Russian show?
It's strong and powerful.
joe rogan
She grew up in a place where there's not a lot of potatoes.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
brian moses
She wrestled bears.
joe rogan
Probably.
freddie gibbs
I fucked a couple Russian bitches when I went to Russia.
The Russian Mafia made me stay out till like 8 a.m.
I was like, yo, I'm not fucking with y'all niggas no more, man.
joe rogan
What's your limit?
7?
7 a.m.?
7 a.m.
is time for breakfast and bed.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, about 6. 6. That's hilarious.
About 6, 7. This is 8. Come on, man.
brian moses
The sun's out.
freddie gibbs
I mean, they're just making me go out all night.
They're just like, yo, you are going to fuck one of these bitches tonight, Freddy.
I want you to know that.
And I'm like, okay, man.
I was like, dospedaña, motherfucker.
brian moses
Let's get it.
freddie gibbs
Let's get it.
You know what I'm saying?
So...
But Russia, I didn't really enjoy Russia too much.
joe rogan
What didn't you like about it?
freddie gibbs
The food.
I don't want to eat no goddamn borscht all day.
joe rogan
They invented food to keep alive.
brian moses
Right.
It's cold out there, bro.
joe rogan
You gotta understand about Russia's history with Stalin.
There's a lot of people that starve to death.
brian moses
It's like Siberia, Asia.
joe rogan
Not just that, but Stalin imposed all sorts of crazy restrictions on people that forced crazy famine to the point where people were eating their children.
brian moses
Like, for real?
joe rogan
Yes.
Documented.
brian moses
Cannibals?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not just cannibals.
Listen, there's some fucking homeless guy who's dying of a heroin overdose and I beat him over the head with a rock and eat his ass.
unidentified
I mean, I'm just trying to stay alive.
joe rogan
I'm just trying to stay alive.
This guy was already dead.
I don't even know him.
But eating your own kids...
This is documented during the Stalin administration.
freddie gibbs
Damn, that's some sick shit.
brian moses
Would you eat your kids?
joe rogan
It's not a chance in hell.
freddie gibbs
No fucking way.
joe rogan
I would throw myself into a rock wall until I died.
freddie gibbs
Right, exactly.
joe rogan
It's not a chance.
It's not a chance.
freddie gibbs
I eat myself.
joe rogan
But that's the power of a person who's free versus the power of a person who's lived their whole life scared.
When you're under the grip of a guy like Stalin, You know, an extreme dictator, whether it's Hitler or Stalin or Mussolini or even Genghis Khan.
Like, you're fucking scared all the time.
They could come and kill your wife in front of you.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
You know, one of the things that Saddam Hussein and his sons, Uday and Hussein, is that their names?
unidentified
Uday?
Uday.
joe rogan
You know what they used to do?
They would find women that were being married, and on their wedding day, they would take them.
They would take them, and they would rape them, and then they would feed them to their dogs.
brian moses
Whoa!
They killed these women.
joe rogan
Feed them to their dogs.
They had dogs that they kept where they would rape women and then feed them to their dogs.
Now, imagine that this is all happening while like fucking, you know, Rambo's happening in the movies and Star Wars and we're all going to the fucking store and buying big gulps at 7-Eleven.
All this stuff is happening and Saddam Hussein's kids are feeding brides to dogs.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
joe rogan
Damn.
freddie gibbs
Saddam Hussein was some sick motherfuckers, though.
brian moses
QAnon, where you at on this?
joe rogan
Sick motherfuckers who raised even sicker motherfuckers.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Because he was sick, but his parents weren't dictators.
He's a dictator.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
So imagine the sickness he imposes on his children.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
brian moses
Barron Trump's going to be so fun, I feel like.
He's going to be so fun.
joe rogan
He's probably going to be the best comic of all time.
brian moses
I believe it.
I believe Barron Trump's going to be so funny.
joe rogan
Imagine if he just starts going on stage with a fucking bottle of vodka.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's on Adderall.
He starts talking shit.
unidentified
First of all, I never asked for any of this.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
And everybody goes crazy.
brian moses
Or he gives up straight Tupac.
He's just like, fuck you, your man's fucked up, your label's...
The whole institution's fucked up.
I love...
Oh, yeah.
Barron Trump, man.
freddie gibbs
Melania and Barron gonna go do their own thing.
They don't fuck with that.
joe rogan
Who knows?
Maybe he'll make it worth their while.
brian moses
Right.
Right.
I mean, I'm gonna vote for him, but...
joe rogan
There's gotta be something appealing.
brian moses
Here's the thing.
joe rogan
As heinous as he is, there's gotta be something appealing about what that guy's managed to accomplish.
brian moses
Trump?
joe rogan
He became the fucking president.
He's made billions.
He's lost billions and made billions and he owes hundreds of millions.
And people are like, whoa, he's in debt!
He's in debt!
One of the reasons why he's in debt is because he's so fucking crazy he asked for wild loans.
freddie gibbs
Exactly.
brian moses
He's been bankrupt more time.
He almost bankrupted America.
I'm like, this guy's one of the best.
freddie gibbs
He is.
joe rogan
But he's Mary and Mary.
brian moses
We keep hiring him.
joe rogan
Listen, we're all happy.
We can agree.
We're all happy he's not president anymore.
freddie gibbs
Nah, I don't want to be president no more.
joe rogan
I'm happy he's not president.
brian moses
I don't want to be president no more.
joe rogan
You're happy he's not president.
unidentified
Sure.
freddie gibbs
I'm happy he's not president.
brian moses
It's all working out.
joe rogan
We're all happy.
But what?
Before COVID hit, the economy was booming.
Nobody wants to admit that.
I don't understand the economy.
unidentified
We admitted it, though.
brian moses
We talked about it.
unidentified
Yeah, we did.
freddie gibbs
It was.
joe rogan
Listen, I don't understand the economy.
But I do know that the unemployment numbers were crazy low and that the economy was booming.
Stock market was booming.
Shit was happening.
brian moses
If COVID doesn't happen, that man is still president.
joe rogan
He might be the GOAT. Yeah.
He might be the Michael Jordan.
freddie gibbs
When Trump got in office, I made more money than I ever made in my fucking life.
unidentified
Same!
joe rogan
I want you to imagine a world where there's no COVID and then psychedelics get legalized and we get Trump on mushrooms and we just let him keep going.
Keep going for the good of humanity.
You already made all the money.
You're already the president of the world.
freddie gibbs
And I got some mushrooms.
joe rogan
Let's get high and hug each other.
Let's get high and hug.
brian moses
But then I gotta hear the propaganda machine tell me that racists are coming to take me and my kids.
You know what I mean?
Because that's what's gonna happen the whole time he's there.
joe rogan
Well, that's the Russia-America thing too, right?
It's like we don't talk to each other.
If we all talked to each other, we'd be all like, oh, this is bullshit.
Like, I don't wanna nuke you.
freddie gibbs
You don't wanna nuke me?
joe rogan
I didn't know what you were saying.
I couldn't understand it.
I don't know what the fuck you're saying, bro.
Turns out you're cool.
Give me a hug.
Let's go fishing.
You know?
brian moses
That is kind of, I guess, Russia's and America's way of manifest destiny, though, right?
joe rogan
Bro, it's in the Bible.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
It really is.
brian moses
Because the Chinese don't do that shit.
joe rogan
It's the Tower of Babel.
It's in the Bible.
If we could all talk...
Listen, we're having a hard enough time with red versus blue.
I saw some smart people on Twitter that were saying, hey Texas, you real happy your fucking state's red?
Hope you fucking pull yourself up by your bootstraps and figure it out.
There's families out there that have been here for generations.
They're starving to death.
They're all colors.
A lot of them are from other countries.
They're starving to death too.
They're freezing to death.
There's a million people with no power.
What the fuck are you upset?
brian moses
All those liberals you're talking about, they're saying it to the people of your ilk.
They're not saying it to the Fifth Ward in Houston.
They're not saying it to the slums of the projects here in Austin or in San Antonio or Dallas.
You know what I mean?
Oak Park and Dallas.
I ain't saying that shit to them.
joe rogan
But they're saying it.
They don't know they're saying it to them, but they really are.
Because they're saying it to all of Texas.
Texas could easily be like four European countries.
freddie gibbs
Easy, easy.
joe rogan
Easy.
Easy.
freddie gibbs
Damn near the continent.
joe rogan
It's gigantic.
It's so big.
It's so big and there's so many different kinds of people here.
We got hit with a one out of 120 year storm.
That's what they're saying.
brian moses
Yeah, it happens.
joe rogan
It's weird.
But you can't be mean.
There's no need to be mean.
No one was mean to you.
You don't have to be mean.
brian moses
No, California's mean to itself.
joe rogan
It's not just California, man.
It's everybody.
brian moses
Oh, is it really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's people that are...
brian moses
I thought it was just Cali.
joe rogan
Hurt people hurt people, right?
You know that expression?
And people in California are hurt.
They're hurt.
And they're hurt at people like me that moved.
brian moses
Or hurt, bro.
joe rogan
They're hurt.
brian moses
Joey, miss you.
joe rogan
You can come back to right here.
This is the new California.
This is the new thing, man.
We don't have to go to that spot.
That spot's fucked up.
Keep moving.
brian moses
It's crazy what they did.
It's a shame what they did to California.
Especially Los Angeles.
joe rogan
It's inevitable.
brian moses
In Los Angeles, is it?
joe rogan
This is why.
brian moses
The show business.
Go ahead.
joe rogan
Because they have to figure out how to defeat wokeness.
The only way to defeat wokeness is to show what a catastrophic failure it really is.
Because even the people that claim to be woke, they're really at it for personal profit.
When you find out they leave office and they make hundreds of thousands of dollars for speeches in front of bankers, you're like, Ah!
You got me, you fuck!
unidentified
God damn it!
brian moses
You got me!
Gavin Newsom was gifted a million dollar house!
joe rogan
What was that thing I sent you, Jamie?
brian moses
Gavin, our governor of California?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Three.
brian moses
Three houses?
joe rogan
Three million dollar house.
brian moses
Okay, three million dollars.
joe rogan
And then took a mortgage on it.
So he's gifted a house, and he takes a mortgage on the house, so it's like you get free money.
You get free money.
You get a couple million bucks.
It's a way someone can bribe you.
Yeah, so look at this thing I sent Jamie.
brian moses
I don't know.
It's the worst that comes up about this.
joe rogan
California ex-mayor slams Governor Newsom's use of behested payments as recall threat nears 1.8 million signatures.
Behested payments are this weird thing where, like, there's a giant increase.
From $226 million in 2020 up from $12 million the year before.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
So it was $12 million in 2019 and then $226 million in 2020 while the world is burning.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look how crazy this is.
If that's true, and I don't know if it's true, because I'm just reading Fox News communist websites.
brian moses
It could be bullshit.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
unidentified
But, but, but, but, but, there's multiple sources saying this.
joe rogan
It might be real.
It might be what's really going on.
brian moses
But it's also, I mean, if you just look at, listen, I don't even hate Gavin.
I actually like Gavin.
I liked Gavin.
joe rogan
Have you ever met him?
brian moses
Never met him.
But I liked that he legalized weed.
He was a great...
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
That wasn't him?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
There's a fucking photo in my old studio of Burt Kreischer pulling his shirt off and running around the stage when they...
That's not true.
Right?
No.
It was the same podcast.
We thought it was the time...
We thought it was the moment where marijuana became legal in California.
Burt took his shirt off and ran around.
Apparently, Burt took his shirt off and ran around multiple times.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
And someone figured out that the moment where he took his shirt off in that photo was not...
brian moses
Okay.
joe rogan
It was not in fact...
brian moses
So Newsom didn't...
You're saying he wasn't the guy?
joe rogan
No!
brian moses
But this...
I mean...
joe rogan
They voted it in!
California voted it in.
In 2018 or whatever the fuck it was.
brian moses
2016. He was a big advocate for it though.
joe rogan
So was everybody else.
They go like this.
They lick their finger.
Which way is the wind blowing?
It's going that way.
Me too.
What a coincidence.
What a coincidence.
I'm going that way too.
brian moses
I think he's an okay ideas guy.
I just think his leadership as a governor...
I don't think he could ever be president because his leadership is so faulty.
joe rogan
Well, it's over.
brian moses
And what I say to you, I was saying with the $30 billion earlier, it's like, if me and Fred and you are working at the comedy store, right?
And there's $30 missing from the till, and Dean or somebody is saying like, yo, there's $30 missing here, bro.
And that's like, that's three days in a row here.
What's going on with you?
You're fired.
joe rogan
Right.
brian moses
$30 billion in front, and nobody got fired or died or went to jail?
joe rogan
You put a fucking camera up, and you find out who's up.
Who's been doing it?
And that's how Tommy got fired.
brian moses
And they still haven't done it, though.
I'm saying.
They haven't even put the cameras up though!
joe rogan
No!
brian moses
They don't give a fuck.
This is what I'm saying about it.
I'm like, yo, show business is the number one form of economy in California, right?
And it's in Los Angeles.
And we talked this offline.
It was like, the whole reason Los Angeles exists is because of Hollywood, right?
So you have show business, you have the tourism that show business brings in from all the people coming from all the places.
You have the service industry that caters to the people who are coming in, the actors, actresses, the dreamers who work in these places or are serving these people.
Then you have the hospitality service that does the same thing.
Now, you're saying, okay, you guys make $813 billion, $900 billion a year for us.
Eh, I don't really want to serve you guys.
I'm going to serve the big tech companies or the farming industry in these other places, these blue-collar type of things, or this white-collar shit that the big techs do.
But Hollywood, you guys are dreamers.
Fuck you.
Fuck your restaurants.
Fuck your hotels.
Fuck your homeless problem.
unidentified
Right.
brian moses
And fuck your tourism, Los Angeles.
And it's 120,000 people on the fucking streets in Los Angeles.
freddie gibbs
It is.
brian moses
And they're keeping us in the house saying, like, stay in the house.
And I got comics telling me, stay in the fucking house.
Don't do outdoor shows.
It's just upsetting.
I can't even be funny about it.
joe rogan
But those comics, are any of them any good?
I don't think they are.
brian moses
Some are, some aren't.
joe rogan
Name one.
Name them.
brian moses
I'm not gonna name no names.
joe rogan
They're all mediocre.
brian moses
Yeah, but they're all saying, like, stay in the house and earn a living, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Who's telling you what to do and why?
brian moses
But who?
It's the scene they're saying, like, hey, you guys shouldn't open.
joe rogan
Who's not confused?
Who's not unsure?
Who's not conflicted?
I am.
I am.
brian moses
That's why you came here.
joe rogan
Listen, I'm conflicted.
I'm not so sure of what I can tell you to do, but I'll tell you what I do.
But there's so many people that are telling you what to do.
brian moses
All the time!
joe rogan
Why are you telling me what to do when I know you're a pussy?
I know you're a pussy.
I know if shit gets crazy you're gonna cry.
And you're telling everybody what to do?
Especially about something we have almost a year of data on.
brian moses
Thank you.
And that's where I'm coming from.
It's like, yo, it's almost been 12 months.
It's coming to March 11th, right?
March 19th or whatever.
It'll be a year.
You can't tell me at this point that we know what's going on.
We see the data that's happening.
Stop telling me to stay in the fucking house.
Stop trying to make a living.
joe rogan
There's so many variables.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's so many variables.
There's so many people that have been cowards their whole life.
And they're on Facebook.
And they're talking on Facebook.
And you read their words.
And their words seem like a normal person.
But it's not you.
I've known you for more than a decade.
I know you.
I know you.
I've only known you for a couple hours and I fucking know you.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I know you.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's some people you don't know.
brian moses
Word.
joe rogan
And those fucking people are just like, why are you doing shows?
Why aren't you hiding?
Why don't you stay inside?
brian moses
Well, then tell my fucking documentary to landscape artists that do the same thing.
I can't go make a living, but he can?
joe rogan
Why can you?
brian moses
Blowing fucking hot air in my face every day.
I thought it was an airborne virus.
freddie gibbs
Right.
Right.
brian moses
I mean, wait, what the fuck?
joe rogan
What the fuck?
brian moses
We can't do shit in California.
freddie gibbs
California is very selective about, like, what they open.
Like, man, nigga, I was just in a strip club.
brian moses
Yeah.
Do your best work in the strip club.
joe rogan
Texas doesn't give a fuck, dude.
brian moses
Nah.
joe rogan
And you know what?
Texas looks at Florida and we're like, one day.
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
One day.
One day we'll be as free as Florida.
Florida is the real America.
brian moses
Freedom of thought.
Freedom of everything's down there.
joe rogan
They don't give a fuck.
They're like, let's go.
brian moses
Exactly.
freddie gibbs
Last time I was in Miami, they weren't even tripping on us wearing masks.
They were just like...
joe rogan
Andrew Schultz is there right now.
He said, if you wear a mask, they look like you're a pussy.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
He said, he was texting me.
He's like, bro, it's wild down here.
But he brought on his Instagram, he said, I've never been more happy when a dude bumped into me at a nightclub and spilled his drink on my shoe.
I never, because I was just happy, the people were just right there.
He's like, I didn't even give a fuck.
brian moses
Living life.
You can't do that shit.
joe rogan
Alive!
freddie gibbs
Live!
joe rogan
Risk taken!
brian moses
Anybody who's listening to this in the world, if you come to Los Angeles right now, you're going to be depressed.
freddie gibbs
Tell me.
brian moses
The energy is nasty.
joe rogan
Tell me, because I stopped you.
I stopped you.
We were all getting COVID tested before this podcast.
Tell me what it's like.
brian moses
It's depressing, bro.
The energy out there is fucked up.
And everybody keeps saying, like, oh, you know, there's so many cases.
I remember in December, like, there's so many cases, this and that, but, you know, it's...
But we don't have a cold snap in California, right?
But we have 100,000 people on the streets, and you're saying it's an airborne virus.
You don't think it has something to do with it?
You don't think that the undocumented workers or the poor people who are dying in South LA has something to do with, like, what are the only people working?
Because right now, what's happening right now, this is your power dynamic.
Rich people are staying home and telling you to stay home because they're making the money.
And Gavin Newsom said this.
He said, oh, I don't know what you guys mean by businesses closing.
There's a lot of new billionaires who wouldn't say that.
joe rogan
I saw that crazy shit.
brian moses
That was fucking arrogant.
I was never going to vote, but I'm like, yo, bro, you lost.
I wasn't even a fan, but now you lost a dude who was like, hey, I can defend some of the things you're saying because you have some good ideas.
But at that point, you're telling me, well, the rich people are happy, so then we're happy.
joe rogan
He's under pressure, man.
brian moses
The middle class is fucked up because they can't work or they're working at home and they can't take their kids out to go do shit and be normal to socialize with people.
freddie gibbs
And the kids ain't in school.
brian moses
Exactly.
And kids ain't, bro.
joe rogan
It's not necessary.
brian moses
Kids ain't in school and they're robbing people.
freddie gibbs
My daughter in private school.
See, that helps.
Now let me tell you this, like, but with that bullshit, like...
They want your money.
So they're not going to say, hey, just stop the fucking school.
You know what I'm saying?
They're like, all right, well.
joe rogan
But hold on.
Yet they are.
They are in California.
freddie gibbs
But not the school my daughters go to.
They're making them go.
joe rogan
Well, you got a good one.
freddie gibbs
They'll have them go sometime.
Or they'll be like, all right, you're going to be the Zoom school teacher at home.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like...
When they get under pressure by the state or the county, maybe they'll shut down.
But for the most part, my daughter's been going to school.
joe rogan
You know what's interesting out here?
Out here, if your school's religious, you get exemptions.
brian moses
There you go.
joe rogan
Like, if you decide, my kid's a Catholic, your kid can go to a school, like in school, because they believe in God.
Because they believe in God.
brian moses
You're right, you're fine.
joe rogan
No, I'm telling you the truth from my own experience with children.
brian moses
This is real.
joe rogan
It's bizarre, man.
brian moses
Usually, organized religion is fucked up, but now I'm like, damn, you get to go to school?
joe rogan
I'm with them.
Who are they to tell you?
freddie gibbs
It is fucked up, because I'm like, damn, if I couldn't afford private school, would my daughter be actually in real school?
Like, I wouldn't be in real school.
brian moses
No, she'd be zoomed up and she'd be restless.
joe rogan
Trust in the government is way crazier than any other religion.
Trust in a bunch of people that can't fucking believe they're really the mayor or can't believe they're really the governor.
First of all, you're telling me they're not medicated?
All those fucks are medicated.
They're all on something.
They're all on SSRIs or Ambien or some sort of anti-anxiety, Xanax type deal.
All of them!
brian moses
All of them.
joe rogan
Maybe a few of them are just on Athletic Greens.
But there's a lot of people out there that are on some dark shit.
They're out there making decisions for all of us.
brian moses
I mean, when you say the Catholic Church, that shit just triggers me.
I go back to QAnon again, and this is my joke I made about QAnon again.
I'm like, yo, QAnon, you guys are culture-appropriating black people's shit.
We're afraid of the government.
We always have.
We have facts to back it up.
I haven't seen one thing from anybody in QAnon just like, well, this is happening.
The Marjorie Greene's or the Lauren Babbitt's.
I'm just like...
Come on, man.
What are you guys talking about?
joe rogan
That's the problem.
brian moses
The Catholic Church has physical proof that they're fucking people.
joe rogan
It's separated through all sorts of lines.
Tribal lines.
We're tribal.
brian moses
Right, right, right.
Yeah, we always talk about that shit.
We are tribal.
joe rogan
We do talk about it a lot because that's really what it is.
If we abandoned all that, like if we all did MDMA. Work.
You ever do that?
brian moses
I only did it once.
joe rogan
I was holding hands with a dude.
We were holding hands.
And I was like, this feels so good.
unidentified
We were both looking at each other.
brian moses
That's humanity, though, right there.
joe rogan
Yeah, me and some Mexican dude.
We're sitting on a couch.
We're holding hands with each other.
And he's like, it feels good, right?
I was like, dude, it's amazing.
It's like the best feeling I've ever had in my life.
It wasn't sexual at all.
It was me and some dude holding hands.
brian moses
We were cool.
That's funny.
It was good, right?
I like that.
That's real shit right there.
joe rogan
We abandoned because we were both on fucking two tabs.
We were on two tabs of MDMA. And we were both like, listen, it's all bullshit.
brian moses
It's all bullshit.
joe rogan
He's like, it's cool at home.
He wasn't trying to fuck me.
I wasn't trying to fuck him.
We were holding hands.
brian moses
He needed a co-sign that was cool, though.
I respect that.
joe rogan
I was holding hands with this dude, and we were cool with each other.
freddie gibbs
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Why is that a problem?
brian moses
If we could all just do Molly, we'd be fine.
joe rogan
Yes!
I really believe that.
brian moses
Hey, get like Oregon, because Oregon, you can do drugs.
joe rogan
Now you can.
freddie gibbs
You can do everything, bro.
brian moses
Legally.
freddie gibbs
So I'm going to sell crack right now.
brian moses
Why don't you move to Oregon?
Why are you talking about going to Miami?
joe rogan
It's all decriminalized.
I don't know if decriminalized means they can't take it from you, but they definitely can't arrest you.
brian moses
It's like a misdemeanor there, so they can find you probably.
joe rogan
But I think they can take it.
Like if they find you with some molly and some coke, like pure coke.
freddie gibbs
They can take it.
joe rogan
They're like, you can't handle this.
brian moses
We just found out you can only get pure coke in 1990. You been to Vancouver?
freddie gibbs
You know Vancouver got the drug zone where they got all the shit.
It's like Amsterdam on the wire.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like three or four blocks.
joe rogan
That's the first place I ever did absinthe.
freddie gibbs
Oh, bro.
I'll never fuck with that again.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
You did it?
freddie gibbs
I did Absinthe.
brian moses
In Amsterdam, though?
freddie gibbs
No, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan
I did in Vancouver.
I said it's like a cousin to drunk.
It's like drunk's cousin.
You think you're a drunk's house.
You're like, oh, you guys got velvet paintings.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, Absinthe ain't no joke.
Absinthe, it's illegal in America, ain't it?
brian moses
No, no.
I mean, they have.
freddie gibbs
It was before.
brian moses
I mean, not the shit that they sell in Amsterdam.
Not that Absinthe.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I drunk some absinthe.
I'll never do that shit again, bro.
That shit hit me like that.
That was the weirdest feeling.
joe rogan
I enjoyed it immensely.
I believed in Harry Potter.
brian moses
Damn.
That's some good absents.
joe rogan
I did it.
I started thinking about magic.
freddie gibbs
Absents to me was...
brian moses
You're in Texas now.
You're doing lean now?
joe rogan
No.
brian moses
You're on Dirty Sprite?
joe rogan
No.
brian moses
You don't like opiates?
joe rogan
No, I do kettlebells.
brian moses
I do kettlebells?
freddie gibbs
I used to do lean.
I used to drink that shit.
joe rogan
2007, the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau effectively lifted the long-standing absents ban.
freddie gibbs
See, I told you.
joe rogan
2007. I had it right before then.
I think I had it in like 2002 in Vancouver.
brian moses
Interesting.
joe rogan
I had it in 2010. I was doing Yuck Yucks.
brian moses
Oh shit.
joe rogan
You ever do that?
brian moses
Yeah, I've done Yuck Yucks.
freddie gibbs
That's how I found out about Absinthe Mountain.
The day it got unbanned.
My homeboy took me to go drink some of that bullshit.
And I was like, my nigga, I will never do this shit with you.
brian moses
Green licorice.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, they had to like burn it.
It looked like we was doing crack.
brian moses
Right, because you had to burn the sugar cube, right?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, you had to burn the sugar cube.
joe rogan
I have to correct myself.
I think I'm 2005. Oh, so you did it illegally.
No, no, it was legal in Vancouver.
jamie vernon
In 2000, they were starting to sell it as something else.
It's called Absinthe Refined.
joe rogan
That's like fucking the new coke.
You ruined a tried and proven formula.
brian moses
They brought original coke back.
freddie gibbs
Cocaine ain't the same.
Right now it's like 50,000 a kilo.
It's different.
joe rogan
You know what's like super underrated?
You know what's super, super underrated?
A cigarette before a comedy show.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
brian moses
You know who loves that?
Silverman.
joe rogan
Listen, you know who loves that?
Chappelle.
brian moses
Word.
joe rogan
When Dave and I were doing these gigs, he's always smoking, and I wouldn't even thought to do it.
Until I met Joey Diaz, and until I started smoking pot, and I met Eddie Bravo, I was like, Mr. Straight Edge.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
I was like, yeah, you gotta eat meat, and you gotta run steps.
And don't be a pussy!
I was a fighter when I was young.
I was kick-boxed and I fought a lot of martial arts tournaments.
I was scared of anything that's gonna set you back.
And then I met some dudes that were martial artists, like Eddie Bravo in particular, who's one of my best friends ever, who's a martial artist but also a pothead.
I'm like, explain!
Explain what the fuck you're doing.
He's like, it makes me creative.
Like, there's no way.
I go, okay, let's do it.
And we got high, and I was like, oh my god, I get it.
brian moses
He was the first one to get you high?
joe rogan
Well, I got high.
unidentified
Like that?
brian moses
I mean, like, religiously?
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
When I was a kid, I probably smoked pot from the time I was, like, young till I was, like...
30. No, not even.
21. Maybe five times.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then I took a long time off.
I thought it was for losers.
brian moses
Word.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Most people do.
freddie gibbs
I did too at first.
brian moses
Yeah.
I think when you're doing athletics as a kid, you never want to fuck with it.
Even my day I was like, I get that shit.
I mean, I wasn't like, ah, I'm going to be in doubt.
I was like, I get that.
I'm not going to do that because I want to fuck up my system because I want to be in sports.
Then when you get out, you're like, well, let me see what this shit's all about.
freddie gibbs
Nah, when I got to college and started playing football, I knew the motherfuckers.
I was like, yeah, everybody doing drugs.
brian moses
Yeah, everybody.
I was like, oh, shit.
freddie gibbs
I overindulged.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
You know, it's a jujitsu thing.
A big thing with jujitsu.
A lot of the best guys, they get high.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
They get high before.
I used to get high every time it rolled.
Every time, me and Eddie Bravo, we would smoke, we would get real high.
Like, to the point where I was embarrassed a couple of times because I was trying to explain a position.
I was like, there's a position where there's a new counter, and I was trying to explain a counter to an omoplata.
I was trying to explain this one move, and I was so high, I didn't remember where to put my feet.
I didn't know where to go.
I was so high, and I was talking to another guy who was like a legit jiu-jitsu guy, and he was like, this fucking airhead.
And I was like...
I was like, I don't think I can remember.
Let me start from the beginning.
I had to take it like two steps before where I was explaining it to figure out how I got to where I was because I was so high.
But the best guys, like BJ Penn, Eddie Bravo, and this is just...
brian moses
BJ Penn, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, BJ was one of the biggest potheads.
He convinced a lot of people because he was so good early on.
Bro, that guy won the Mundial, the World Championships with Jiu Jitsu, three years in the training.
brian moses
It's just lit up all the time.
I love it.
joe rogan
Always high.
Always high.
Hicks and Gracie like to smoke weed.
All those guys like to smoke weed.
brian moses
I used to live with the MMA cat who's a Whiff-Hom instructor now.
freddie gibbs
Wim Hof.
brian moses
Wim Hof, my bad.
I'm high.
Wim Hof.
freddie gibbs
Did he ever whoop your ass?
brian moses
Yeah, we used to like grab my shit.
He was trying to teach me.
But he was a major pilot and he would always tell me that same thing.
It's just good for recovery for me because I don't want to feel it.
joe rogan
It's that too, but it's also like abandonment of all your preconceived notions of what life is.
when you're doing jujitsu you're doing jujitsu and you're like well i'm a member of a neighborhood organization and uh you know i owe fifteen thousand dollars on my credit card and uh i'm worried i'm gonna get fired at my job and when you smoke pot and a dude's trying to strangle you all that goes away yeah and everybody realized it everybody realized that it makes it like you exist in a different dimension than the normal world You exist in this really high dimension where you're doing this intimate
sort of intricate strangle game where you're trying to break joints, choke each other.
You do it to each other over and over and over and over again.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
And you're doing it while you're high.
It's not like being drunk.
See, if you're drunk, it slows you down.
But the high thing is it eliminates all the other variables.
freddie gibbs
I believe that.
Same thing as rapping.
joe rogan
Really?
Yes.
freddie gibbs
You get high.
joe rogan
Same thing.
freddie gibbs
And you just...
joe rogan
Oh, yes.
freddie gibbs
You know what I'm saying?
You go straight to the place you need to go to.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
100%.
freddie gibbs
So I can relate.
joe rogan
But everybody who's great at something says that.
freddie gibbs
It's tunnel vision, man.
It's tunnel vision, dog.
It's like you said, I am the task.
joe rogan
Yes.
freddie gibbs
So, you know, I might fall off in other areas.
I might not be a good...
Boyfriend, husband, or some shit like that, but I'm a fucking great rapper, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
And you know what I'm saying?
And to be that, I know that I gotta stay on the path to doing that.
And it's gonna be shit that I might lack in because I'm so laser-focused on being great at that.
brian moses
That shit was so specific.
joe rogan
The thing is, too, the thing is, too, if you can do that, you can do anything.
brian moses
He just said, he's like, you know, I might not be a good boyfriend or a husband.
He could have said, I'm not good with money, I'm not good with this.
He was very pointed about that.
He knows what he's saying.
freddie gibbs
I know what I'm not good at.
I don't believe in monogamy.
joe rogan
Word.
freddie gibbs
So, I don't really rock with that shit.
So, you know, I believe in, you know, I should have my way with whatever comes my way.
That's how I feel.
Monogamy don't really fit, you know, my kind of lifestyle or my kind of thing, you know?
So like when I bring up the idea of like open relationships to women and kind of like scare them away, so I don't get into...
joe rogan
Isn't it interesting that some people only want people to live the way they lived, right?
And this is why people had a problem with gay marriages, right?
That was a big deal.
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Until like the 2013 marriage.
There's a lot of prominent Democrats that were running for president.
Up until 2013, they're like, nope.
Man and a woman.
That's it.
Man and a woman.
brian moses
That's crazy.
You're like, that is actually crazy.
freddie gibbs
And I'm going to tell you this.
You know what I mean?
I'm into religion and everything.
I'm into Islam and all of that.
But like I said, there's certain things, even with religion, that I don't agree with.
I don't agree with that.
Anti-gay shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't give a fuck who you fuck at night.
What the fuck?
Who's the fuck that got?
brian moses
Nothing to do with us.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, it don't got nothing to do with me, man.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just, you know, I feel like, you know, you should be free to do whatever the fuck you want to do.
joe rogan
You know what I think it is?
I think it's a weird test.
It's like, as we were talking about, like, what we used to be, what a human used to be a hundred years ago, two hundred years ago, a thousand years ago, and what we are now.
That keeps going.
And we're at this weird point where we're like, what do we give a fuck?
What do you care?
If dudes want to marry dudes, if you have a problem with that, you're the problem.
It's not dudes who want to marry dudes.
If a dude is like, hey, listen, bitch, you're going to marry me.
He's like, I really like chicks.
He's like, shut the fuck up.
Okay, then we might want to protect that dude.
Who's going to get married by a dude who wants to marry him.
But that's not what we're talking about.
Until it's that, if it's a guy who wants to marry a guy, then we should be encouraging as much as we are a man who wants to marry a man or a woman who wants to marry a woman.
brian moses
Also right, yeah.
Do you want to date other colors or ethnicities?
joe rogan
Do whatever the fuck you want.
It's all bullshit.
freddie gibbs
Jack Johnson had a bad white bitch.
brian moses
He had a lot of them.
That was his thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
He did that.
joe rogan
He drove around with them in the convertible.
freddie gibbs
He did.
brian moses
Yeah, because he wanted them to see it.
He's like, I'm conquering white supremacy.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Well, he was a man.
You know, they think that even when he lost, they think he might have taken a dive.
They don't know.
There's a lot of speculation.
Yeah.
Who did he lose to?
It was late in his life.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, it was like a tomato can kind of fighter?
joe rogan
Well, they think they might have set up a situation where, you know, like, listen, man.
brian moses
Take some money, get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Let's end this.
It was real speculation.
April 5th, 1915, Johnson lost his title to Jess Willard, a working cowboy from Kansas who started boxing when he was 27 years old.
freddie gibbs
Nigga, I didn't know cowboy was a real job.
joe rogan
Here it is.
It's a real job right now.
How dare you?
brian moses
Tina was.
You in Texas.
joe rogan
If you want to have a fucking viable horse to ride, sir, you respect the cowboys.
Many people thought Johnson purposely threw the fight because Willard was white in an effort to have his man act charges dropped.
freddie gibbs
Oh, shit.
So he did that.
So he'd be like, man, let me fuck these white bitches.
I lost to this white nigga right here.
joe rogan
You got him.
freddie gibbs
You got him.
Damn, Jack.
joe rogan
He took a dive.
freddie gibbs
He took a dive.
joe rogan
If we're deep into 2021, and this is like, how many years ago?
A hundred and...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many?
Three?
106. How many years?
brian moses
Imagine.
joe rogan
That fucking debate still raging on.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
freddie gibbs
The man act.
What is the man act?
brian moses
No, well, Trump pardoned him.
unidentified
He pardoned...
brian moses
What?
Trump pardoned Jack Johnson.
freddie gibbs
No.
brian moses
Really?
Trump pardoned Jack Johnson, everybody.
joe rogan
Please pull that up.
freddie gibbs
He probably pardoned Jack Johnson like Jack Johnson.
joe rogan
But meanwhile, Joe Exotic rots in a fucking cage.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Let's let him out.
Let's use him as a battery to make some money.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
Okay?
That's beautiful.
There's money to be made.
brian moses
Look at that.
joe rogan
Trump pardons.
brian moses
Look how much they don't even like him.
joe rogan
Look at Stallone's there.
brian moses
Hey, yo.
joe rogan
Hey, yo, man.
freddie gibbs
Hey, yo, man.
brian moses
Look at Stallone.
freddie gibbs
Deontay.
brian moses
That's Deontay in there.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
That's hilarious.
freddie gibbs
Oh, Deontay, why was you there for that, man?
brian moses
Wait, go to that guy's face, though, with the...
joe rogan
I think they're just happy.
brian moses
With the cabbie hat on.
No, no, the other one.
freddie gibbs
The other one.
I've never seen that picture.
He don't look like he's...
joe rogan
That's Lennox Lewis, man.
freddie gibbs
That's Lennox Lewis.
joe rogan
That's Lennox Lewis.
brian moses
Oh, my God.
freddie gibbs
I guarantee Mike Tyson when it did that.
brian moses
He's right.
freddie gibbs
Mike Tyson wouldn't have did that.
Mike Tyson would not have did that.
joe rogan
Lennox Lewis is a fascinating guy.
brian moses
He must be.
Has he been on the podcast?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, he plays chess at a really high level.
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
I mean, he's brilliant.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's really brilliant.
freddie gibbs
He's British, man.
He's British, man.
Get out of here, man.
All them niggas can play chess over there.
joe rogan
He's also super nice, but also talks shit.
Like, it's kind of cool.
Like, he saw a pool table.
brian moses
Smart demon, yeah.
joe rogan
He's like, come on, man.
You want to play some...
Like, all of a sudden, like, oh, shit, we're having fun.
freddie gibbs
I mean, I respect him.
He beat Mike Tyson.
joe rogan
Dude, he didn't just beat Mike Tyson.
When Lennox Lewis was in his prime, how about when he revenged against Hasim Rahman?
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
How about that?
Rahman had knocked him out.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they caught him, and he thought they stopped the fight early.
They caught him and stopped him.
Yeah.
Imagine.
Comes back and KOs him with one punch.
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Dude.
brian moses
Yeah, he might be one of the most underrated.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, he fucked Rahman.
joe rogan
Most underrated ever.
brian moses
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
One of the most underrated ever.
freddie gibbs
He is.
That's because he British.
joe rogan
It's that.
It's that.
But that might be it, right?
brian moses
That's why we don't give him the credit.
That's why, bro.
freddie gibbs
We don't respect British boxers like that over here like that.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, we like Tyson Fury.
We're pretty happy.
freddie gibbs
We love him.
We love him.
brian moses
We fuck with Tyson Fury.
freddie gibbs
We love him.
joe rogan
But he's a gypsy.
He's in a caravan like Brad Pitt, that fucking movie Snatch.
freddie gibbs
I love Tyson Fury.
joe rogan
Right?
But also Deontay Wilder.
Like, Deontay Wilder became Deontay Wilder because of what he did to Tyson Fury in the first fight.
Everybody knew what he was, but everybody was like, what happens when he fights the best of the best?
When he dropped Tyson Fury in that 12th round, when he hit him with a right hand and then a left hook as he's going down, and then he went like this, everyone's like, oh!
I screamed like my wife was worried something was wrong.
I was sitting on the edge of the bed.
I was watching my bedroom in California and he knocked him down.
freddie gibbs
Yes.
joe rogan
I couldn't stop screaming.
But then, that motherfucker got up.
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
He did.
unidentified
He got up.
freddie gibbs
He did.
unidentified
He got up.
brian moses
Like Terminator, bro.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, he did.
brian moses
Like Terminator.
freddie gibbs
And Deontay was dancing and all that shit.
He was doing all this shit.
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
He thought it was over with, but it wasn't.
brian moses
And then he got outboxed.
Fuck.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, he definitely got outboxed.
joe rogan
If Deontay could pretend that he couldn't knock people out...
Imagine.
I mean, dude, his power is preposterous.
brian moses
Right?
Somebody greatest in history.
joe rogan
If he just learned how to box like a dude who couldn't break an egg.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
Just learned how to box like one of those dudes.
brian moses
He's a souped up version of Kimbo Slice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, no, no, no, no.
He's like a superhuman Tommy Hearns.
brian moses
Damn.
joe rogan
That's what he's like.
Because he's so big.
brian moses
He's so powerful.
joe rogan
Bro, he knocked everybody out.
unidentified
If that guy catches you clean, broke his jaw?
joe rogan
Dude, if he catches you clean, Deontay will fuck you up.
freddie gibbs
I just watched Hearns-Hagler the other day.
That fucking fight, that's probably one of the best boxing matches I've ever seen in my fucking life.
brian moses
Gotti Ward, Hearns-Hagler.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no.
brian moses
You don't even like Gotti Ward.
joe rogan
Gotti Ward is great, but Hearns-Hagler is in another dimension.
freddie gibbs
That's another dimension, though.
joe rogan
Neither Gotti nor Ward at the time were thought about as world champions.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
When Marvin Hagler fought Tommy Hearns, that was 100% the best versus the best.
brian moses
That was right.
Yeah, I was like, oh, this is chalk versus chalk.
joe rogan
Tommy Hearns had starched Roberto Duran with one punch.
brian moses
Right, the one punch?
Have you ever seen that?
Oh, yeah.
No mas.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
No, no, no, no, no.
brian moses
That's not no mas.
joe rogan
That was Sugar Ray Leonard.
brian moses
Oh, shit.
I'm sorry for disrespecting.
joe rogan
Tommy Hearns put Roberto Duran to sleep.
freddie gibbs
Was that after the no mas?
joe rogan
Yes.
freddie gibbs
So he boxed again after that.
joe rogan
And that was before Tommy Hearns fought Hagler.
So this was the build-up.
The build-up was Tommy Hearns had knocked Roberto Duran into another dimension.
And Marvin Hagler went to a decision.
With Roberto Duran.
brian moses
What year was that?
joe rogan
It was like...
We're talking about like...
freddie gibbs
83. I gotta think it was like...
brian moses
Sometime in the 80s.
Yeah, because I don't remember the height.
freddie gibbs
It was definitely...
brian moses
84. Yeah.
joe rogan
Hearns Duran's 84. So in 1984...
Watch this.
Watch this.
Tommy Hearns knocks Roberto Duran's senseless.
And Roberto Duran was one of the greats.
One of the greats.
Look at this.
brian moses
Dude!
Now I know the highlights.
joe rogan
Nobody...
Nobody did that to Duran!
Nobody!
freddie gibbs
He knocked him senseless.
joe rogan
Senseless.
brian moses
He felt that for days, bro.
He probably pissed blood and everything.
joe rogan
Dude, he got flatlined.
So for Tommy Hearns to fight Marvin Hagler was insanity.
It was insanity.
And also, the way Marvin Hagler decided to fight him...
freddie gibbs
Marvin Hagler was a beast too.
joe rogan
Marvin Hagler decided to turn it into just chaos.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
From the beginning.
freddie gibbs
The first round!
joe rogan
Right away!
No guts, no glory!
brian moses
Yeah, all gas, yeah.
freddie gibbs
Bro, this first round, this is the best first round of boxing I've ever seen in my life.
joe rogan
Maybe ever.
Maybe ever.
freddie gibbs
Ever.
joe rogan
It's just a war.
It's a war.
brian moses
Bro, they both had the...
I mean...
joe rogan
First of all, they both were at the tippy top of their game.
They were so good.
freddie gibbs
And it's that same referee.
brian moses
What's his name?
How old were they, by the way?
joe rogan
That's Richard Steele.
freddie gibbs
Richard Steele, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, Richard Steele.
brian moses
Old school Richard Steele.
joe rogan
And look, they just get right after it.
Look at this.
Marvin Hagler just gives you no air.
He's just constantly on them.
freddie gibbs
Bro, this is the best first round of boxing I've ever seen, bro.
joe rogan
It's just...
They're just trying to find range and throw hay niggers.
freddie gibbs
Bro, they are hitting each other so hard.
joe rogan
Marvin just cracks him with a big right hook.
Oh, my God.
And Tommy Hearns is trying to nuke him.
And Tommy Hearns apparently broke his hand in this first round.
freddie gibbs
Damn, for real?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian moses
And he took him 12 still?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
He didn't.
I don't think it lasted very many rounds.
I don't remember.
I think it was three.
Three?
Like, when did...
brian moses
Oh, they won the end.
They both won the end.
joe rogan
This is the first.
It lasted two or three rounds, if I remember correctly.
freddie gibbs
Who won this shit?
joe rogan
Marvin Haggard by KO. By KO. He's wilted him.
He wilted him.
He just overwhelmed him with his pressure.
Fuck.
Overwhelmed him.
brian moses
I mean, it's...
freddie gibbs
Bro, they was going at it.
brian moses
That is...
freddie gibbs
They was going at it, bro.
joe rogan
When I was a kid, Marvin Haggard was supposed to fight Mustafa Hamshaw, and he was training on Cape Cod in the winter.
And he was running down the beach screaming, war!
And they were filming him for this local news channel.
He was the middleweight champion of the world.
I was a kid.
And I was sitting there watching TV, and Marvin Haggard's got a hoodie on, and he's running down this frozen beach going, war!
Shadow boxing, throwing punches.
This is third round?
Yeah, okay.
So I remembered it right.
freddie gibbs
A human being can't fight like that for more than three rounds, the way they was fighting.
joe rogan
No, it was chaos.
freddie gibbs
They was fighting.
brian moses
I mean, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Oh, Marvin Hagler was a specimen.
brian moses
My God.
joe rogan
And he had this crazy calisthenic workout.
Like, nobody was in better shape than him.
He never got tired.
Like, he met some clever boxers, like Sugar Ray was clever.
Duran was really clever.
I think he had a lot of respect for Duran when they fought, too.
But Marvin Hagler was one of the most impressive boxers of all time.
freddie gibbs
He was, man.
You know a fight that I really want to see that the logistics and political should keep...
I want to see Bud versus Errol Spence.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
brian moses
We all do, man.
joe rogan
Do you think they were talking the last day or two that they were going to just abandon the idea of even pursuing it?
What do you think that is?
brian moses
It feels like a Pacquiao-Floyd thing.
joe rogan
But is that like a negotiation thing?
Like they're trying to pretend they're backing off?
brian moses
Because Bud's full ESPN top rank.
Yeah, he's top rank.
And then Spence isn't, isn't he?
freddie gibbs
Nah, they could make that shit happen.
joe rogan
They need to make it happen.
Spence is golden.
freddie gibbs
And he bounced back.
He really bounced back after the accident.
I didn't You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's a neat fight.
freddie gibbs
He flipped that car like 10 times, man.
And he came back and he fought well.
So I definitely need to see that fight.
brian moses
I like Teofimo Lopez.
joe rogan
That's what I was going to say.
I was just about to say that.
Bro, the way he beat Lomachenko.
brian moses
I was just about to say.
That's what I said.
freddie gibbs
I thought nobody would beat Lomachenko.
When I'm looking at that, I was like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
You know what?
There's an equation.
Firepower versus movement.
You get to a certain level, it doesn't matter how much movement you have.
The other guy has superior firepower.
As Lomachenko went up in weight, he reached this technical breaking point.
The point of diminishing returns.
His ability to move is above and beyond.
But if this dude hits you once...
You're like, oh shit!
And then you get nervous, and then you're tighter, and it's harder to move.
He's unassuming.
Lomachenko had some sort of an injury to his shoulder, apparently, going into that fight.
freddie gibbs
They gonna rematch it?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
freddie gibbs
Who knows?
joe rogan
Lomachenko thought he won, which I thought was crazy.
He said he thought he won the first fight.
I'm like...
He's one of the most interesting boxers of all time, but he definitely did win that fight.
Lomachenko did not win that fight.
Lopez, he was hurting him.
He was putting him in danger.
brian moses
Yeah, I guess I've never seen Lomachenko, I guess, get to that point because we've always seen him just dominate.
So it was interesting.
You're like, whoa, okay.
freddie gibbs
Another guy I wish I would have seen Floyd fight.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yes.
freddie gibbs
Floyd Lomachenko, fuck all this reality shit.
brian moses
Get in there and fight.
freddie gibbs
Show me, yeah, fight Lomachenko.
joe rogan
Different weight class though, you know?
unidentified
Yeah, true.
joe rogan
Tiafemo's 135, right?
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's dangerous, man.
He's like super fucking dangerous.
What's up with Triple G? They think that Lomachenko, Triple G, they want to have a rematch with Canelo, apparently.
brian moses
Right, that's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Triple G looked at it.
I say, let him juice up.
This is what I say.
brian moses
I say, listen, let's cut the shit.
joe rogan
Let's let these guys do testosterone.
Do we want to have good fights?
Do we want to help bean counters?
Pocket protectors.
Give that man steroids.
brian moses
Give that man steroids.
joe rogan
How old is Triple G? He's like 39, right?
brian moses
Yeah, he's gonna need it.
joe rogan
Let him juice up.
brian moses
Yeah, he's gonna need it against Canelo.
joe rogan
Come on.
Let him juice up.
freddie gibbs
That was a good fight.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck.
brian moses
Two.
joe rogan
Right?
They fought twice.
The first one, a lot of people thought Triple G won, but the second one, Canelo, was brilliant.
freddie gibbs
Man.
joe rogan
Dude, his head movement...
brian moses
He's never looked better, actually.
joe rogan
You ever see that Danny Jacobs fight, where Danny Jacobs is throwing haymakers at him, and he's like, moving...
brian moses
Oh, he's gorgeous.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Anybody who says that that's not an art, you're out of your mind.
brian moses
That's a sweet sign, yeah.
joe rogan
Right, to people who know, you watch that, you're like, holy shit.
brian moses
That's like hitting 100 miles or fast, like curveball, you know what I mean?
Or knuckleball, shit.
joe rogan
100%.
freddie gibbs
Canelo improved more than any fighter that I've seen.
brian moses
Legitimately, yeah, because he fought Floyd too early.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I was just about to say that Floyd caught when he was young.
brian moses
Yeah, he got too early.
joe rogan
Not only that, he weakened him.
Floyd make him go down to 152, I believe.
freddie gibbs
Exactly.
joe rogan
Didn't he make him go down to that?
brian moses
That's good boxer shit, though.
That's smart boxer shit.
unidentified
That's Floyd!
brian moses
Yeah, that's smart shit.
joe rogan
Smart.
brian moses
He knew better.
joe rogan
He's a big, dangerous young man.
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Get him to dehydrate himself a little bit more.
freddie gibbs
Because he went up in Wakely.
He up there.
joe rogan
He went up to 175 and knocked out Kovalev.
brian moses
Oh, right.
175. I thought that was actually nuts.
I was like, really?
You're not tired?
joe rogan
Not...
Dude, he's on another level.
Canelo's on another level.
That Danny Jacobs fight was crazy.
Because Danny Jacobs is super dangerous.
And he's throwing these haymakers.
I mean, excuse me, Canelo, he learned from Floyd.
He learned from that fight.
Like, if you can't hit a guy, like, oh, that's, like, really important.
Yeah.
unidentified
You fight Floyd and you're like, hey, where are you going?
brian moses
Right, exactly.
unidentified
So these dudes like Canelo, look how good he was in the Jacobs fight with his head movement.
joe rogan
I mean, that's not normal.
That's not normal head movement.
brian moses
That's right.
freddie gibbs
I was just about to say that it's a fight here.
It's here in Texas, right?
Miami, Miami.
joe rogan
How do you pronounce a dude's name?
He's fighting.
brian moses
Yildurum?
joe rogan
That dude looks savage.
freddie gibbs
That nigga is a big guy.
joe rogan
That's a big dude, man.
freddie gibbs
That's a big dude.
joe rogan
Fuck, that's a big dude.
freddie gibbs
Canelo ain't little.
joe rogan
No.
brian moses
But what's a dude with hard to pronounce and last name?
joe rogan
Dude, go up to the top.
brian moses
Go up to the top of the...
joe rogan
What did it say?
Yeah, there it is.
How do you say that name?
freddie gibbs
Avni Yildurum.
joe rogan
Scroll down there so we can see that.
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Avni Yildrim.
brian moses
Better call Saul.
joe rogan
It's Yildirim.
Yildirim.
freddie gibbs
Right?
joe rogan
Avni.
Our apologies, Avni.
freddie gibbs
It might be Yildirim or something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it might be, right?
Where's he from?
brian moses
Turk.
He's a Turk.
joe rogan
Can we all agree on what letters mean?
What kind of noises you make?
You can't have, you know?
It's confusing.
We can't agree?
brian moses
I'm with it on this one, yeah.
It just looks like a...
A collection of numbers, or letters.
joe rogan
That was a big one when Hoist Gracie was in the UFC, because Hoist Gracie had his letters, it starts with an R. It's Royce Gracie in English, but because he's Brazilian, it's Portuguese.
They pronounce the R and H, so it's Hoist Gracie.
brian moses
Oh, Hoist.
joe rogan
Hoist.
brian moses
It's a cool name, actually.
joe rogan
It's a dope name.
Especially if you're a dude who's like 175 pounds and fucks up the world.
freddie gibbs
Shit, if your last name is Gracie.
brian moses
I mean, man, I've always wanted to be 175, like 185. Shit.
joe rogan
Imagine the expectations growing up in the Gracie family.
freddie gibbs
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Imagine?
I mean, what a name.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
When it comes to all-time, there's no greater family name ever in the history.
freddie gibbs
I wouldn't fight you.
joe rogan
It's martial arts.
freddie gibbs
I wouldn't fight you.
brian moses
Have you got the Gracie name?
freddie gibbs
What's your name?
You one of them Gracie niggas?
Oh, hell no.
brian moses
Gracie boys?
joe rogan
Imagine.
Like a human jaguar.
brian moses
Shit.
joe rogan
There's so many elite Gracies.
From Hickson to Hoist to Hoyler to Hodger.
You can go down the line.
Henzo.
Henzo Gracie today has the most revered lineage of all.
He's produced John Donaher, who produced Gordon Ryan and Nicky Ryan.
There's a whole city.
Gary Tone and this murderers.
To come out of that lineage.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's all out of that Gracie lineage.
That family's insane.
Like, that family changed martial arts.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Forever.
brian moses
Always I know about it, yeah.
Oh, great, yeah.
That's the one name that registers.
unidentified
Gracie.
brian moses
Gracie School.
You went to the Gracie School.
Cool, yeah.
joe rogan
They changed the world.
They changed the world.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
They changed the whole world.
brian moses
When did they start?
joe rogan
Well, they had some of their first matches in the early 1900s.
Damn.
I think it was in the 19...
Yeah, no bullshit.
freddie gibbs
Slave days.
joe rogan
Their dad...
freddie gibbs
Gracie boy!
joe rogan
The story of the Gracie family is amazing.
Because there was Elio.
Elio was like...
He and Carlos Gracie were the ones who were first experimenting with Jiu Jitsu.
But Elio was a small guy.
And the benefit...
He was like 140 pounds.
147 pounds.
But the benefits of him being really small is he couldn't hurt anybody with just his muscle.
So he developed the perfect technique.
So they learned from these guys that came over from Japan.
He even had this match with this dude Kimura who fucked up his shoulder.
And that guy, that became the Kimura.
It's a known submission hold now.
Because this man did it.
It's a double wrist lock.
A double wrist lock is like the catch wrestling tournament of it.
But this dude did this to...
He did it to Elio Gracie in like the early 1900s and fucked up his shoulder.
Yeah, and then Elio came back and he fought a bunch of other challenge matches.
Then he had his, I think it was his cousin Carlson.
His cousin Carlson was like bigger and more robust, like kind of like a more durable, a scarier version of him.
And he did a bunch of challenge matches too.
And then by the time the UFC came around, which is like 1993, in Brazil they had been doing this for decades, man.
unidentified
Decades.
joe rogan
Decades of these no-rules fights.
Decades of capoeira guys fighting karate guys, fighting wrestlers.
They were doing all these...
They called it valetudo.
They fought in these...
I think it means anything goes.
Anything goes or no rules.
And they fought in these weird little setups.
They did cages, sometimes in ropes.
And they had a ton of fights.
A ton of fights all through Brazil.
So Brazil was just buck wild with martial arts.
brian moses
Sounds like Muay Thai shit.
joe rogan
It was different, man.
There was a lot of different things going on.
brian moses
As far as production is concerned, I feel like.
joe rogan
But I was like there was there was jujitsu going but there was also like these other forms of wrestling and all that like there's a The thing called luta livre was like competitor to jujitsu in Brazil And there was all these different styles they were trying to figure out who is the man and And it was all happening before the UFC even came around.
That's what's wild.
South America.
brian moses
Yes, you don't even think about it.
joe rogan
Brazil.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
There was an influence of these...
There was a guy named Count Maeda who came down there and taught them judo.
And he taught them judo, and they just started practicing on each other.
brian moses
That was it, yeah.
joe rogan
And next thing you know, they developed Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
They kept learning from each other, and these guys just figured out a better way to strangle each other.
brian moses
It's like they're Dr. James Naismith with basketball.
They're like, here, do this, go make some money.
joe rogan
But the UFC is here because of that family.
brian moses
Word.
joe rogan
One family.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
joe rogan
One family changed martial arts...
So much.
1993 is when the first UFC was.
Between 1993 and the beginning of time, martial arts has evolved more from 1993 to 2021 than any time ever in human history.
There's no doubt about it.
These are the greatest...
freddie gibbs
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Hand-to-hand fighters.
And it's predominantly because of that guy holding that baby.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy figured out a way to use leverage and technique and to beat guys of superior size and strength and weight.
And he had like a hundred kids.
He had...
I'm exaggerating.
How many children did he have?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
He had a lot.
And a lot of these children became champions.
I mean, he was just...
And he said...
This is what's crazy about him.
brian moses
It's like the Marlies and Reggae.
joe rogan
But here's one of the more interesting things about Elio Gracie.
He would give his children presents if they lost.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
He didn't give them any pressure.
brian moses
Wow.
And they still nailed it.
joe rogan
They became the best.
He didn't want them to worry about that.
He didn't want them to concern...
He was so wise...
That he gave them presents if they lost.
Imagine that.
brian moses
Yeah, that's like giving you a kid like, hey, you participated.
Here's a trophy kind of thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you want to look at a study of what works and what doesn't, that guy should be the real professor.
brian moses
Legitimately, yeah.
I'm like, wow, really?
And he still got it.
joe rogan
He's produced like a dozen straight-up killers.
And my lineage that I come from, the Machados, they're cousins to the Gracies.
They all train together.
So my lineage is completely connected to there.
Because Jean-Jacques Machado is, in Jiu-Jitsu, I'd call him my master.
So they're all connected.
So this one family literally connected to martial arts and changed it forever.
One family.
A couple of guys in Brazil.
unidentified
It's crazy!
brian moses
Yeah, it's the Jackson family of martial arts.
joe rogan
But more so because Jacksons, look, you can't discount James Brown.
brian moses
Word.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
brian moses
You're right, you're right.
joe rogan
The Jacksons were amazing, but there was a lot of Jacksons.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
There was a lot of crazy, powerful musical influences.
brian moses
Ain't no Gracies, you're right.
joe rogan
There was a bunch of different ones.
You could go to concerts with...
You could see 30 different styles of superpower.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
One family in South America figured out the best strangle bitches just to grab them and strangle them.
They were all practicing all day long trying to figure out what's the most efficient, intelligent way of choking people to death.
And they figured it all out above and beyond every other fucking martial arts grappling competitors in the world.
And then they expanded through the globe where if you don't know their style, you're fucked.
There's not a single grappling organization on earth where if you don't understand the style that was created by the people that originally founded jiu-jitsu.
If you don't understand that, you're going to get strangled.
brian moses
100%.
joe rogan
100%.
If you're just a pure wrestler...
brian moses
It's like they created the microchip, basically.
joe rogan
They figured something out that's undeniable.
If you're a regular wrestler who has no exposure to jiu-jitsu, and you have a grappling match with a guy like Gordon Ryan, who's a multiple-time world champion, he's gonna fucking strangle you 100% of the time.
You have no chance.
There's no chance.
It's not like one in a thousand chance.
The only thing that's going to save you is if there's a time limit.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
If somehow or another you can hold on for five minutes and then when the time's up, you're, yeah, one.
But did ya?
If you don't understand what he's doing, he's going to get you.
He's going to rip your legs apart.
He's going to strangle you.
He's going to find a way to hurt you really bad and you're going to give up.
That's real.
That's what's real.
brian moses
It's torture shit.
freddie gibbs
That's real.
Damn.
joe rogan
That's what martial arts are.
freddie gibbs
Sounds painful as fuck.
brian moses
That's a hell of a black history lesson.
freddie gibbs
My mama wouldn't pay for me to get no karate lessons.
brian moses
It should be free!
joe rogan
Everybody would be so much friendlier if people knew how to fight.
They would let it go.
freddie gibbs
Are you weird if you take karate when you're an older person?
Or take a jujitsu or something like that?
brian moses
I think today, no.
Maybe in the 80s, yeah.
joe rogan
I think you're weird in that you have balls to take that chance.
If you're a 49-year-old dude who's a trucker, who's never done shit, and you're like, I want to learn karate.
brian moses
Yeah.
Yeah, you call that guy weirdo.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I'll be like, yeah, you're kind of weird, man.
brian moses
What do you need this for?
Well, it's also like, you do you.
Word.
joe rogan
Good.
Go for it, bro.
brian moses
You know what?
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
I mean, why are we happy if he decides he's a woman, but we're not happy if he wants to take karate?
freddie gibbs
That's true.
brian moses
You're right.
Choices.
joe rogan
Choices 100% across the board with no judgment.
freddie gibbs
Fuck it, I'm taking karate.
I'm about to beat a black ninja out.
brian moses
It's weird, right?
I want to get tits and be a woman.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
You can learn stupid shit when you're older.
brian moses
No one cares.
joe rogan
You can take bowling lessons.
No one thinks it's weird.
brian moses
There was a 92-year-old woman who went to college.
freddie gibbs
She went to college.
brian moses
And graduated in 96. Wow, really?
She committed.
And survived and lived until she was 96. So there you go.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, why not?
Isn't that weird?
Like, we're so focused on numbers.
Like, how long you got left.
How long you got left?
What can you do?
It's such a trap.
brian moses
I just do drugs.
I do all the drugs I wasn't going to do.
I think I do some crack.
I was talking to Fred and he was saying, man, crack's supposed to be fire.
freddie gibbs
It must be good.
brian moses
You smoke, it's like a body orgasm.
freddie gibbs
How was it?
brian moses
At 79 or 80 or whenever black guys die, 64. Oh, then you're going to try it?
Yeah, I'm going to do some crack.
joe rogan
I thought you were going to say you already have.
brian moses
No, man, no.
My mom would kill me.
freddie gibbs
So in your last years, you've tried crack?
brian moses
Yeah, last year's.
joe rogan
Listen, we need to rebrand.
freddie gibbs
No, don't do it.
brian moses
You think about this, though.
See, it's going through your brain.
joe rogan
We need to rebrand crack.
It's problematic.
brian moses
It does need to be rebranded.
joe rogan
The word crack is rude.
It's probably created by Nazis.
We need to step in.
freddie gibbs
We should have just called it freebase.
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
We should have kept calling it freebase.
joe rogan
How about this?
Let's just call it free.
brian moses
Damn.
unidentified
Free.
joe rogan
Free.
freddie gibbs
Nah, because they ain't dope fiends.
They ain't got to pay for it if you call it free.
unidentified
Let's call it Freebase.
freddie gibbs
Freebase is such a good name.
brian moses
That's probably why they called it crack.
It is a good name.
You ain't getting this for free.
freddie gibbs
Just give me that base, man.
brian moses
There you go.
joe rogan
Imagine if we get to a point where we could have Freebase t-shirts.
brian moses
Freebase.
joe rogan
Like you have a Brody shirt on.
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
Right?
joe rogan
A Coca-Cola shirt.
freddie gibbs
Freebase.
Easy E tried it.
They say, my man J.D. is on Freebase.
He tried to do it, dawg.
brian moses
And from the 8th ball, my breath started stinking.
freddie gibbs
He said, the boy J.D. was a friend of mine until I called him in the car trying to steal my Alpine.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, the Freebase, you know, see?
Oh, there we go!
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, Jamie.
freddie gibbs
They say, my man J.D. is on Freebase.
joe rogan
Isn't that weird?
You can have...
jamie vernon
I've got a Quaalude shirt from the 70s my dad gave me.
joe rogan
Is that a company, though?
jamie vernon
Someone just made it.
freddie gibbs
If you can sell weed at a store, you should be able to sell Freebase at a store, too.
joe rogan
Imagine if, like, Johnson& Johnson...
brian moses
Medical Freebase.
freddie gibbs
Like, I want to make the first crack store in America.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
freddie gibbs
Legal.
Legal crack store.
Freebase.
unidentified
If there's not a market for it, what are you worried about?
brian moses
You've been out there.
I mean, like, what's it like to deal with crackheads?
freddie gibbs
What's the deal with crackheads?
brian moses
All the time.
freddie gibbs
Crackheads are different.
They're different than heroin addicts, I'll tell you that.
brian moses
Or even cokeheads, yeah.
freddie gibbs
It's different kind of, you know what I'm saying, like waves.
Like heroin addicts will kill you if you don't give them any drugs.
brian moses
Really?
Kill, kill.
freddie gibbs
Crackheads, they'll just steal some shit from you or something like that, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
So heroin's the worst?
freddie gibbs
I would say with the addiction, yeah, because they get sick and they'll do whatever.
brian moses
They'll do whatever, shit.
freddie gibbs
Crackheads will do whatever, too.
Crackheads just crazy, and crackheads got wild strength and speed.
You know what I'm saying?
brian moses
All right, so we should put them in the NFL combine?
freddie gibbs
I mean, you can.
I mean, like, shit, like, I know a crackhead that got hit by a combine four times.
We still out here?
brian moses
Four times?
freddie gibbs
At least four times.
joe rogan
Do you think that all the people that are addicted to whatever the fuck they're addicted to, do you think that would be the exact same numbers if everything was legal?
What would change?
freddie gibbs
I think the crime rate would go down.
joe rogan
I think it would go down, too.
freddie gibbs
You know what I'm saying?
For sure.
brian moses
There's a stigma with it, too, you know?
And I think that's what scares people.
joe rogan
Right, that's what I'm talking about.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I don't...
You know what?
Honestly, it's like this.
I was telling a girl the other day.
I was like, you know what, man?
I think I like bitches and pussy so much because you...
Say, don't do it, don't do it.
You make it like it's taboo.
So I make me want to be like, oh, I want to see what that's about.
So if you make shit not taboo no more, people might be like, I don't even like that.
Or I don't even want to fuck with that.
joe rogan
That's the weird part.
brian moses
Nah, they make homosexuality, they make that taboo too, and you wasn't doing that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's a big commitment.
freddie gibbs
That's a big goddamn commitment.
brian moses
Is it?
freddie gibbs
Hell yeah, that's a big jump.
That's a big jump.
To jump sexualities, nigga.
That ain't like smoking crack.
You can get off crack.
You can't switch back.
brian moses
You can't dabble.
freddie gibbs
Nah, you can't.
I mean, no disrespect, but if you gay, bro, if you decide tomorrow, man, I'm going to start sucking dick, I'll be like, oh yeah, Brian Gay as hell.
You can't be like, you can't come to me and be like, hey, I'm off that gay shit, bro.
I've been clean and sober for 70 days now.
I've been like, bro, you still my nigga, but I've always categorized you with that, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Well, I've always said that.
brian moses
I've been off dick now for 120 days.
joe rogan
Have a breast spray.
Like when I have asthma.
You got a dick spray.
brian moses
I'm trying to quit, man.
joe rogan
It's just a scent of dick.
brian moses
A nicotine patch?
unidentified
Right.
freddie gibbs
Like, I caught you sneak.
unidentified
I'm not here to enable my brother.
joe rogan
I've been about it for a while.
I was like, There's a difference.
There's gay dudes and then there's really gullible straight dudes who get talked into blowing crafty gay dudes.
brian moses
There's two different things going on.
joe rogan
See, this is why there's some ridicule attached to it.
Because we know that some dudes join cults.
It's not that we don't respect gay people.
Human beings are super nuanced.
We're very happy.
I think everyone in this table, I'm happy that people are gay.
I'm happy that people are straight.
I want people to be happy no matter what you're doing in this life.
You find people like you.
There's plenty of you.
Let's all get together and hug.
Who gives a shit?
brian moses
We're all live.
joe rogan
We're all live.
We shouldn't be fighting over this stupid shit.
It's like the Russians in America, we gotta speak each other's language.
brian moses
Come on, man.
I didn't know you would.
joe rogan
It's over, Fred.
unidentified
I don't care.
joe rogan
Let's love each other.
freddie gibbs
Come on.
joe rogan
Yes, come on.
freddie gibbs
But, you know.
joe rogan
That's what's up.
Right?
That's like the most important lesson.
freddie gibbs
If a motherfucker convinced a straight dude to suck a dick, then you wasn't straight.
joe rogan
Bro, listen to me.
Tiger King is the best documentary ever.
It's on Netflix.
It happened.
It just took a guy who's way better at playing this particular game of chess.
And he played it with a bunch of straight dudes.
Not only did he play with one, he's like, not good enough.
I want a second one.
He had two straight boyfriends.
freddie gibbs
I mean, husbands.
brian moses
Yes!
Great boyfriends.
joe rogan
Two straight boyfriends, and he made them marry him on video and kiss him, and he fucked them all, and he gave them meth or whatever he gave them, and let them live with tigers.
He did do that.
By all accounts, they had a great time.
freddie gibbs
Hold on, and dude afterwards was like, man, I wasn't even gay.
joe rogan
Yeah, they both said that.
They both said they weren't gay.
That guy's a pimp.
Let him out.
brian moses
Thank you.
joe rogan
Let him teach lessons.
That's what we need to do.
He should be employed by some sort of PBS type deal.
brian moses
Did they really say that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
I haven't seen the documentary.
joe rogan
We need to know how he did this.
We need to know how he did this.
brian moses
Give him money.
He's just a smooth motherfucker.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, he's a smooth motherfucker.
brian moses
Free him.
freddie gibbs
I don't even look at him as gay.
unidentified
Free him.
brian moses
This is your campaign all year, I bet.
You were actually going to get this man Joe Exotic freed.
joe rogan
He said Trump didn't pardon him because he's too gay.
freddie gibbs
It was fucked up because he had...
brian moses
Did Trump release any gay people?
Did he pardon any gay people?
joe rogan
That's a really good question.
brian moses
Right?
freddie gibbs
He should have.
He definitely should have pardoned Joe Exotic.
Why would he pardon everybody?
He had the stretch limo Dodge Ram out there waiting.
unidentified
They did.
joe rogan
They did.
They thought that he was going to do it.
freddie gibbs
I hope Joe Biden.
Joe Biden, you better pardon Joe Exotic.
joe rogan
You know what fucked him up?
That Capitol Hill riot.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
If none of that shit went down, Joe Exotic would be right here.
Right next to us.
Right here.
He would be right here.
brian moses
Is that your sidekick?
unidentified
Right there.
joe rogan
He would be sitting in this fucking chair right here.
freddie gibbs
Or he would have got pardoned right before it and been there with them at Capitol Hill.
brian moses
That's going to break Spotify.
joe rogan
But imagine...
brian moses
If Joe Exotic comes on the Rogan podcast.
joe rogan
Imagine the three of us and Joe Exotic.
freddie gibbs
Oh, I would love it.
joe rogan
This is his marriage.
It's amazing.
freddie gibbs
I would have went to his wedding.
joe rogan
Bro, I might marry him if I was too close to him.
He's amazing.
brian moses
He's too smooth.
joe rogan
He's too smooth.
He'll get you.
freddie gibbs
Nah, Joe.
Get away from me, Joe.
joe rogan
He's clever.
freddie gibbs
He got these boys eating cake.
jamie vernon
He's like, what the fuck did I just do?
joe rogan
And that one with the mustache, that guy was gigantic.
He has these hands that are like fucking catcher's mitts.
You look at me like, oh my god.
freddie gibbs
All the while, I'm trying to get two bitches to do this.
And Joe made two straight dudes do this.
joe rogan
You know what's interesting?
When a guy gets two straight dudes to do it, nobody feels like anybody's a victim.
Nobody's worried.
This ain't R. Kelly.
brian moses
This ain't R. Kelly.
joe rogan
So this guy's getting a couple other guys to suck his dick.
Who cares?
Who gets hurt?
A guy?
brian moses
Come on.
joe rogan
You should know that you don't want to suck his dick.
freddie gibbs
R. Kelly's still in jail, too?
joe rogan
I believe so.
freddie gibbs
Damn, that's fucked up.
brian moses
Why?
freddie gibbs
Huh?
brian moses
Why?
freddie gibbs
Why is it fucked up?
brian moses
That he's still in jail, R. Kelly.
freddie gibbs
Why is it fucked up that R. Kelly's still in jail?
brian moses
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
The nigga had some fucking jams.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be in jail.
He should be there, but it's a waste of talent.
joe rogan
Imagine if they made a deal with him.
Imagine if they made a deal with him.
They said, listen, you can take months off of your sentence with each album you put out.
freddie gibbs
Oh my God.
joe rogan
And all the money goes to charity.
brian moses
Hey, man, you need to be the new attorney general.
freddie gibbs
Hey, man, you can't.
unidentified
Have a fucking shiny time.
joe rogan
Listen, Mr. Moses, let's make a deal.
If you were the opposing lawyer and you and I met and we decided, let's just smoke a joint and talk about this, man.
freddie gibbs
It's just hard.
Right now, with all the shit that had happened with R. Kelly, it'd be very, very difficult to listen to a new R. Kelly album.
brian moses
And he didn't talk about it.
joe rogan
Did you listen to the one that he did release?
The one song that he did release?
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
Listen, man.
It's pretty fucking good.
freddie gibbs
All his songs.
He's got a lot of good songs, man.
joe rogan
I'm not bullshitting.
freddie gibbs
He's a fucking piece of shit, but he's got great songs.
joe rogan
Some people got upset at me that I said, listen, I understand.
He's an extremely flawed human being.
freddie gibbs
Extremely.
joe rogan
But this song is pretty fucking catchy.
Who was that one that he released on SoundCloud?
After he got dropped by his...
brian moses
I believe it can fly a remix.
joe rogan
No, there was a song.
He was talking about his whole thing.
freddie gibbs
Not Guilty?
This nigga has a song called Not Guilty.
joe rogan
He does?
freddie gibbs
R. Kelly?
unidentified
Does he?
freddie gibbs
Yes.
joe rogan
He might have 18 songs in a row called Not Guilty.
freddie gibbs
It was on the Best of Both Worlds album.
joe rogan
Remember Trapped in the Closet?
Remember that?
freddie gibbs
Trapped in the Closet, yes.
joe rogan
He had a soap opera.
brian moses
Yes, he did.
joe rogan
He did.
freddie gibbs
R. Kelly is...
They let him out for COVID? R. Kelly is an innovator, man.
Everybody else out for COVID. He's an R&B. He's the king of R&B. Oh, okay.
jamie vernon
A 19-minute song called I Admit.
freddie gibbs
I Admit.
joe rogan
That's it.
Yeah, I heard that.
brian moses
19 minutes?
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
It's good.
freddie gibbs
It was like trapped in the closet altogether.
joe rogan
Listen, I'm not saying I endorse what he's done.
I do not.
brian moses
No fucking way.
joe rogan
I'm not saying...
What I'm saying is...
The sounds that he's making, the things that he's saying, you can apply them to what you think he did or didn't do and it'll fuck it up for you.
brian moses
Yeah, bro, if Hitler puts out a fucking R&B soul album tomorrow with Funkadelic on it...
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not forgiving him.
I'm not forgiving of you.
brian moses
Never forgetting Hitler.
freddie gibbs
I do think some of them bitches and them families and them niggas and shit like that that was letting their daughter go with R. Kelly, they knew what the fuck they was doing.
Like, I'm not letting my daughter go with R. Kelly nowhere, nigga.
Or any motherfucker, you know what I'm saying?
brian moses
Like what every black parent said when they watched that documentary, they were just like...
I never let my daughter go.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I'm not.
What the fuck is going on?
You know what I'm saying?
And then like the shit with the hotel.
I think a lot of that shit was bullshit, but I think R. Kelly a nasty motherfucker and he need to go to jail.
But you know what I'm saying?
brian moses
Here's the thing.
freddie gibbs
I think that he...
brian moses
Let a hoe be a hoe, but he was just dipping in shallow waters.
Man, you can't do that shit, bro.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, you can't do that, R. Kelly.
brian moses
Go be a hoe with some old, like with some grown people.
freddie gibbs
And it's like, man, you rich as fuck.
You can have any woman you want.
Why do you want to fuck with a bitch that can't even drink at a bar with you?
joe rogan
I think there's a madness of that kind of fame.
Like the level of fame that he had.
You ever see that one video where he was on stage and these girls literally reach up and grab his dick while he's dancing and singing in front of him?
Imagine Sinatra in a similar circumstance.
freddie gibbs
Oh my god.
joe rogan
I want you to stop and think.
And I'm not saying that Sinatra did the same shit that R. Kelly did, but I want you to imagine what kind of a connection does this man have to his fans?
I mean, he is dancing in front of these ladies in there.
He's singing to their face, and they're patting him down, and people are screaming.
For the people that are just listening to this, this is wild shit.
It's wild.
brian moses
I mean, this is...
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
It's wild.
But they grab his dick.
Eventually, there it goes.
freddie gibbs
There it goes.
joe rogan
She's massaging his dick while he's singing!
freddie gibbs
In front of everybody!
This is one of his last shows he did, too.
jamie vernon
He's telling her to do it, by the way.
He's saying, Why My Balls?
freddie gibbs
Oh, keep on wiping me!
joe rogan
Listen, we need Jimmy Fallon's and we also need R. Kelly's.
freddie gibbs
Oh my god.
joe rogan
We need hyenas and we need lions.
freddie gibbs
Keep on wiping me!
joe rogan
We need Republicans and we need Democrats.
We need everybody.
freddie gibbs
Everybody.
joe rogan
But, um...
freddie gibbs
Is she wiping his ass?
joe rogan
There was some shit that he did that was different than this.
The problem with this guy is the stuff that he did was like you start looking into it and you go, Jesus, how old is everybody?
Like, what is this?
It's like the stage shit, like doing that.
The art that he produced, like being able to stand on stage and this girl grabs his dick in front of everybody, I'm not endorsing anything he's ever done, ever, that's criminal.
But that is wild.
freddie gibbs
That is fucking wild.
joe rogan
That's wild.
brian moses
That's not like old school doo-wop shit, I feel like.
They were doing that shit back in the day, you know?
joe rogan
But like that?
brian moses
Like, girls throwing panties on stage.
joe rogan
I know, but they're grabbing his dick in front of the whole world.
brian moses
I mean...
You ever seen the Five Heartbeats?
freddie gibbs
Oh, this is my favorite.
Hold on, time out.
This is my favorite R. Kelly song.
Do you have your passport?
Did you get your shots?
unidentified
Do you want to come back with Rob to America?
Do you have your passport?
Did you get your shots?
Girl, would you like to come back with Rob to America?
brian moses
As if he's Aladdin!
unidentified
As if he's Aladdin!
freddie gibbs
He said, bitch, I would...
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian moses
Did you get your shots?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Did you get your shots?
brian moses
Are you singing the shit out of it, though?
unidentified
America!
Oh my god.
freddie gibbs
Look, look, the background sticks.
It's like, what the fuck are we seeing?
unidentified
They just met them like, America.
joe rogan
That is pure madness.
What was that one?
What was the one where the girl calls up and he's mad, he's getting his hair done?
jamie vernon
Why are we in the studio?
joe rogan
What is that one?
Where he has a whole thing?
Where he's going back and forth with this woman on the phone.
freddie gibbs
When a woman's fed up.
joe rogan
What is this song?
freddie gibbs
When a woman's fed up.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no.
She's mad at him and he's like, Bitch, I wish you would burn my motherfucking clothes!
freddie gibbs
Real talk!
brian moses
Real talk!
joe rogan
He says to the woman, he goes, you what?
unidentified
What?
He goes, bitch, I wish you would burn my motherfucking clothes!
joe rogan
Real talk!
unidentified
Wait a minute, calm down.
Yeah, that's it.
I was at a club with who?
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
unidentified
Get the fuck.
Man, you know what?
Girl, I'm not about to sit up here and argue with you about who's to blame or call no names.
Real talk.
Real tall. Real tall. Real tall.
Real talk.
Just because your friend says she saw me at a club with some other bitches.
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Listen to this.
brian moses
Listen to this.
unidentified
Did she say there were other guys there?
Did she say there were other guys there?
Were there other guys there?
Well, tell me this.
How the fuck she know I was with them other girls?
joe rogan
Science!
unidentified
Wait a minute, let me finish what I've got to say.
Oh.
freddie gibbs
Nigga, look at his hair.
joe rogan
Give me a little bit more.
Give me a little bit more.
I don't care.
unidentified
Give me a little bit more.
I'm just trying to have a good time.
Robert, you did this.
Kills, I heard you did that.
Don't you think I got enough bullshit on my mind?
Real talk.
Hold up.
brian moses
Real talk.
I'm going through a motherfucking pedophile case.
freddie gibbs
Real talk, right, nigga?
brian moses
Don't you think I got enough bullshit?
unidentified
Real talk.
Gave who some damn money?
I ain't gave nobody no damn money, girl.
You see what your problem is?
You're always running off at the mouth, telling your girls your motherfucking business.
When they don't eat with us, they don't sleep with us.
Besides, what they eat don't make us shit.
freddie gibbs
Real talk!
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian moses
Did you just put a voicemail conversation as a song?
joe rogan
It is an art piece.
freddie gibbs
Come on, man.
joe rogan
It's an art piece.
freddie gibbs
Look, man.
Ray Charles couldn't see.
R. Kelly couldn't read, man.
They can both write a goddamn song.
joe rogan
Listen, whatever he did that's illegal, I stand against it, and I think we all stand against it.
freddie gibbs
I stand against it.
joe rogan
We all stand against it.
I wish he didn't.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Because when you listen to some of the shit that he produces, you're like, God damn.
freddie gibbs
To me it go Michael Jackson and R. Kelly.
Those are your people.
That's top tier music for me.
You know what I'm saying?
And Mike ain't do that shit.
joe rogan
Wait, where's James Brown?
brian moses
Oh yeah, he says Mike didn't do that shit.
joe rogan
Oh.
freddie gibbs
Mike ain't dead either.
joe rogan
What?
Oh, he's not done.
brian moses
There we go.
freddie gibbs
Mike is alive, man.
Alive and well.
joe rogan
Where do you think he is?
brian moses
Yeah, where is he?
freddie gibbs
In Vegas.
brian moses
Okay.
It's on UFO. What's he doing in Vegas?
freddie gibbs
He had Joe Oldhouse.
brian moses
Okay.
He had Joe Oldhouse.
You grew up in the other street from them, didn't you?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I grew up around the corner from them niggas.
joe rogan
Imagine if someone who really did face their death fake it and do it successfully.
Like a Kennedy.
freddie gibbs
Whoa!
brian moses
Which one?
joe rogan
Like one of them.
brian moses
Oh.
joe rogan
Like Robert or John F. John F. Guys who get shot.
brian moses
Or Tupac or Elvis.
Tupac ain't having a...
freddie gibbs
I don't think Tupac did that.
brian moses
Elvis's still alive.
joe rogan
The Kennedy one, you can see him die.
freddie gibbs
Mike, I can see it.
Mike is still alive.
I'm telling you, man.
brian moses
Talk about it.
freddie gibbs
Mike's alive, man.
joe rogan
What's he doing?
freddie gibbs
I mean, fucking hoes doing like regular nigga shit now.
You know what I mean?
Mike just like want to chill now, man.
You gotta say, Mike was in a lot of debt, man.
brian moses
Not according to the papers.
According to the papers, they're saying, you know, he was fucking kids and now he's gone over to overdose.
freddie gibbs
What kids, though?
They ain't never proven.
Mike came to Gary, right?
And he talked to me about this shit.
He said, man, come on, man.
He said, man, niggas gonna hate you for whatever you do, man.
And Mike didn't fuck with Tupac.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
No.
freddie gibbs
He whooped Tupac ass.
brian moses
What?
freddie gibbs
Michael Jackson whooped Tupac ass, man.
What?
brian moses
Tell me this story.
Tell us this story shit.
freddie gibbs
They was both fucking with Quincy Jones' daughter.
Rashida?
One of them.
I don't know.
brian moses
Okay.
joe rogan
Let's not name names.
brian moses
My bad.
My bad.
freddie gibbs
But Mike ain't fuck with Pac.
Him and Pac was beefing.
I mean, shit.
You might want to look into that Mike on the Pac murder, really, to be honest.
You know?
They was getting on this trail.
unidentified
He said, damn, man, they're making all these fucking Pac movies and documentaries.
freddie gibbs
They're going to get on me.
brian moses
That would be hilarious.
If Michael Jackson put the hit on Tupac.
freddie gibbs
Mike put the hit on Pac, I think.
You know what I'm saying?
brian moses
That's hilarious.
unidentified
The time Tupac and Michael Jackson got in a fight.
brian moses
Yeah, Mike bang on Tupac.
This is hilarious.
freddie gibbs
Y'all thought I was bullshit.
brian moses
Wow.
joe rogan
So what caused this?
freddie gibbs
We said, damn.
brian moses
We didn't talk about this.
joe rogan
Hey.
freddie gibbs
Pac versus Mike, man.
I'm telling you, man.
joe rogan
Did you ever see that movie with Tupac and Mickey Rourke?
freddie gibbs
Oh, yeah.
Bullet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Wow.
freddie gibbs
Good movie.
Good movie.
Tupac got killed in that movie, though.
joe rogan
How'd you pull that out?
freddie gibbs
Oh, man.
I love Mickey Rourke.
joe rogan
You went on Jeopardy.
brian moses
So it was about her.
Okay.
joe rogan
When it comes to Tupac, Mickey Rourke, Jeopardy.
freddie gibbs
I love Mickey Rourke.
brian moses
You just won.
freddie gibbs
And Tupac and Mickey Rourke were good friends.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were in that movie together.
freddie gibbs
Mickey Rourke was one of my favorite actors, man.
The wrestler.
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
The rest was really good.
But you know, you go back to like Angel Heart.
You ever see Angel Heart?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
It's him and Robert De Niro.
It's an amazing movie.
freddie gibbs
It's weird.
joe rogan
It's a weird movie.
And I want to say it's in the...
82?
87. It's a really wild movie, man.
It's about a guy selling his soul to the devil.
What's the card again?
Angel Heart.
And doesn't realize it.
And he's like in the middle of, I believe it takes place in New Orleans or Louisiana or somewhere down there.
It's really hot and sweaty and it seems like madness.
Robert De Niro is the devil.
And Robert De Niro is a fucking amazing devil.
freddie gibbs
Did he play a better devil than Al Pacino?
joe rogan
It's so different.
It's smoldering.
It's smoldering and believable.
Go back to that picture.
Look at that picture.
Make that big.
I'm telling you, Robert De Niro might be the most convincing devil ever in a movie.
Because he's not trying to scare you.
He figured out a way to play it off.
Like, the conversation we're having is nonsense.
Because you're going to hell.
Like, he's saying that.
There's no tension in anything he says.
Everything is like, you're going to hell.
Like, I'm the devil, and you're going to hell.
brian moses
It's very matter-of-fact, it sounds like.
joe rogan
Yeah, and Mickey Rourke's character is trying to figure out what the fuck is going on.
It's like he's having these, like...
Bizarre feelings about reality.
freddie gibbs
Damn, that's crazy.
joe rogan
I gotta watch it again.
I'm trying to remember specifics about it, but I'm pretty sure the premise was that he sold his soul to the devil.
And Robert De Niro came to take his soul.
See if you can find the premise.
What the premise of Angel Heart was.
But Robert De Niro, he gets my vote.
That's the greatest devil ever.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
Okay.
joe rogan
Mickey Rourke is a private detective contracted by Louis Cipher.
Louis Cipher.
Get it?
Robert De Niro to track down an iconic singer, Johnny Favorite.
However, everybody that Angel questions about Favorite seems to me to tragic demise.
Eventually, the trail leads Angel to New Orleans where he learns that Favorite had dabbled in the black arts as Favorite's whereabouts and true identity become clear.
Angel learns that being...
Being hired by Cypher was not a random choice.
That's a teaser.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure that's what it was.
I'm pretty sure that he had sold his soul.
brian moses
There we go.
joe rogan
It's a dope movie, man.
I think it's like Mickey Rourke at his prime.
unidentified
He was in his prime in this movie.
joe rogan
He was one of the...
Again, it's like we were talking about Tyson or we're talking about anybody else.
There's only a few years you can exist at that high of a level of RPM. Yeah.
Just fucking...
We're breaking it on...
We're re-entering.
The tiles are chipping off.
We're on fire.
That guy hit some...
Like Chinatown.
Remember that movie?
brian moses
Chinatown.
That's true.
unidentified
He hit some high levels with those movies, man.
brian moses
In Sin City?
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian moses
He re-envisited himself.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Guys like that, man?
unidentified
Fucking De Niro.
joe rogan
De Niro, dude.
How about Taxi Driver?
freddie gibbs
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Come on.
How about Raging Bull?
brian moses
Raging Bull, yeah.
The most quotable movie ever.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, Raging Bull is shit.
brian moses
Raging Bull, I mean just...
freddie gibbs
The Irishman was good.
brian moses
The Irishman was cool.
freddie gibbs
It was long as fuck.
joe rogan
I still haven't seen it.
freddie gibbs
You can't fuck no bitch to it if you watch on Netflix.
That shit long as fuck.
Bitch be like, I don't understand this shit.
Shut your dumb ass up, bitch.
It's the Irishman.
joe rogan
Is it complex?
Is it more confusing than Tenet?
freddie gibbs
Tenet's super complicated.
Tenet fucking sucks.
I hate Tenet.
joe rogan
How dare you?
freddie gibbs
You like that movie?
joe rogan
I liked 85% of it.
brian moses
I hate this shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, which is good enough for me.
freddie gibbs
I hate Tenet.
I go to sleep ten minutes in.
I can't even get through that shit.
It's like that other shit that's like that.
The same director.
Yeah.
Come on, nigga.
I feel like the whole fucking movie they're trying to play mind tricks with me.
joe rogan
Right.
freddie gibbs
And I don't want to fuck with it.
joe rogan
I see your point.
Do you like straightforward action movies?
freddie gibbs
Yes.
Love straightforward action movies.
joe rogan
Like John Wick?
freddie gibbs
I mean, I don't love John Wick because I don't love the script and some of the antics of the shit, but I like the shooting and shit like that.
I like the action of it, but I'm trying to see if it's like a great action movie.
I'm trying to see what's the last great action movie that I saw.
Shit.
joe rogan
It's been a while, right?
Since one really clicked?
freddie gibbs
The old guard was good to me.
joe rogan
What's the old guard?
freddie gibbs
It's a movie with Charlize Theron.
I didn't see that.
It's pretty good.
It's on Netflix.
It's about people who can't die.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus Christ.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, so it's like she's been around for centuries and she can't get killed.
She'd have been in different wars and shit like that.
The Civil War, all this shit, you know what I'm saying?
So it's like, you know, it's about her and a group of people on the earth.
It's like certain people that can't die.
joe rogan
You know, that gives me anxiety.
Right?
Legitimately.
brian moses
Not be able to die?
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing.
Here's the question.
Do you enjoy life right now?
brian moses
Word.
joe rogan
I do.
freddie gibbs
Love it.
joe rogan
I love it.
What if it goes on forever?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
What do you mean forever?
When does it end?
When does it end?
Everybody wants to know when it ends.
Like, if you said that you are you as you are right now forever, are you okay with that?
brian moses
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what if you never get sick and you never get old and you just stay right here forever?
Is that good enough?
Are you sure?
Are you sure you're not gonna go mad?
Like, how long can you stay right here forever?
freddie gibbs
That's a good question.
joe rogan
If it gets to be like 900,000 years from now, and I'm like, dude, I can't do this anymore.
brian moses
I can't do it anymore.
freddie gibbs
I'm so bored.
unidentified
I can't believe I can't die.
freddie gibbs
It's crazy.
It's a scene in that movie.
I don't even want to give it away, but it's one of the people in the movie that can't die or whatever.
So it's like a group.
I forgot what time period they were in, but they thought the bitch was like a witch.
So these people, they was like, yo, we got to burn.
They keep burning her.
They keep hanging her.
She can't die.
You know what I'm saying?
So they're like, all right.
So they lock her in a cage and then put her underwater.
So she can't get out the cage and she just drowns every day and comes back to life every day.
That's got to be insanity.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
freddie gibbs
So it's like she drowns every second and then comes back to life.
Drowns and she's locked underwater.
So they put her under the seat.
brian moses
That gives me anxiety.
freddie gibbs
That's right.
Isn't that a crazy way to think?
I was like, damn, I could never die, but I'm dying every day and living.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
be shook that's why I was like yeah that's a good film you need to fuck with that.
joe rogan
What a clever storyline.
Yeah.
Cause you know it's gonna hit on the two things that everybody's totally terrified of.
Right.
Like the nonsense of it all where it has no meaning because you just do the same thing over and over and over and over again cause you die everyday.
freddie gibbs
And they feel all the pain of dying, but they just come back to life.
joe rogan
But you come back to life.
freddie gibbs
They feel it all.
joe rogan
It's the same, always.
brian moses
Then your lungs explode, yeah.
joe rogan
That's like something, again, it's like biblical.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a biblical kind of thing, right?
brian moses
It is.
Reincarnation, yeah.
joe rogan
It is kind of biblical because it's so crazy.
It makes so little sense.
freddie gibbs
It is crazy.
brian moses
I think the good movie I just saw was Judas and the Black Messiah.
freddie gibbs
I just saw that too as well.
brian moses
That sticks to your ribs a little bit.
freddie gibbs
The part that fucked me up was the actual real dude that was in the movie at the end.
The dude that set him up with the feds.
brian moses
He looked just like the Keith action.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, he looked just like him.
And how he killed himself right after that documentary came out.
I heard he ran in traffic.
brian moses
Oh, he ran in traffic.
You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
joe rogan
Really?
brian moses
Yeah, he committed suicide, I assume, hanging, yeah.
But no, I heard he tried to hang himself, but yeah, he ran into traffic.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, he ran into traffic.
That's a crazy suicide.
brian moses
William O'Neill.
So yeah, he did Eye on the Prize in PBS in like 1990 when...
Yeah, when he talks about his involvement with the feds and him going to assassinate Fred Hampton and him being involved in it.
And then, yeah, that night he kills himself.
freddie gibbs
Why would he do that?
Like, what got, like, eye on the prize?
unidentified
Like, man, stop and see some black history shit.
Come on here and talk about being a snitch and killing one of the leaders.
brian moses
Eye on the prize, all about Fred Hampton and the nigga who got him killed.
freddie gibbs
And the nigga that got him killed.
brian moses
Yeah.
They really nailed it.
freddie gibbs
And he was on that motherfucker trying to defend that shit.
Like, yeah, I talked about it, but I felt like my contribution was like...
He thought that he was like a black history martyr.
brian moses
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, remember in the movie he was even...
I mean, we can't talk about the movie, but yeah.
I mean, it's a true story, so I guess he was saying that he had three leaders.
It was like, you know, looking at Jesus and Martin Luther King, and then this FBI agent was like his other idol or whatever.
Oh, my God.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
brian moses
It's another one that QAnon didn't promote!
Nothing is spears.
joe rogan
That's the problem with something like QAnon.
You've got to chase down the people that live in the center of the earth first.
We've got to find out, is that true?
Okay, let's move on to kid fuckers.
We're going to eventually get to civil liberties and racial justice, but we've got to take care of the kid fuckers.
That's the Catholic Church.
That's the craziest part of 20th and 21st century America.
freddie gibbs
Right, and R. Kelly in jail.
brian moses
How come there ain't no Pope R. Kelly, they want to take down Epstein, he didn't kill himself, but it's like, yeah, we still...
freddie gibbs
Epstein alive.
brian moses
The government bailed out the Catholic Church who doesn't pay taxes, $4.4 billion.
joe rogan
Well, there's some weird shit, too, where they would relocate people.
They would find someone who had molested children in one particular parish, one particular area, and they would take them to a new place.
brian moses
South America, probably.
joe rogan
What is that?
Is the documentary Hear No Evil?
I think that's the documentary.
brian moses
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
There's one of them about that, but there's one case of one guy who went on to molest, I think it was 100 deaf kids.
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
What?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
They had moved him from one place where he was doing something to kids to another place where he may have molested as many as 100 deaf kids.
freddie gibbs
Do you ever wonder why that...
brian moses
And they moved him there?
freddie gibbs
Like, why that's so rampant in that religion?
joe rogan
I think there's no excuses.
Just like there's no excuses for R. Kelly, there's no excuses for these guys, right?
We're just talking about these things.
You can't tell people they can't have sex.
brian moses
Thank you.
joe rogan
It's just like telling people they can't eat or telling people they can't drink water or telling people they can't sleep.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
We have urges.
Right.
And for you to tell this priest that he can't ever, you're perverting what it is to be a person.
So whatever comes out of that perversion, whether it's Kid fucking, or rape, or self-harm, or whatever the fuck it is.
Whatever, drug abuse, whatever the fuck it is.
It comes out of this oppression.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
It's just not good for anybody.
We all know that.
We all know that.
It's not good for anybody in any walk of life.
brian moses
They volunteer for that kind of trauma, though.
joe rogan
They don't know any better, man.
They're fucking kids when they go in.
When I was in high school, there was a kid who lived right up the street, and he was becoming a priest, and I knew his sister.
I went to school with his sister, and we would travel on the bus together to school, and it was known.
He was a couple years ahead of me.
It was known he was going to be a priest.
We all knew it.
And like they get them in when they're young and they ordain them and there's places where I'm sure, just like everything else in the world, where they're strictly adhering to the Bible and they're wonderful, beautiful people.
They just want everybody to love everyone and they want the best for the community.
But like everything else, there's good ones and there's bad ones.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the problem is when you protect the bad ones because you don't want to destroy the whole organization, then you let people like us talk and go, hey, they're fucking kids.
freddie gibbs
Right, exactly.
joe rogan
How many kids?
Like a lot of kids.
freddie gibbs
A lot of kids.
brian moses
Thousands.
Hundreds of thousands.
joe rogan
Who knows how many?
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
They haven't documented it.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Anybody who knows, people who know priests know that there's been some shit that's gone down.
freddie gibbs
Exactly.
brian moses
It's like the cops.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
freddie gibbs
In every city, though.
brian moses
We gotta defund the Catholic Church.
freddie gibbs
In every city.
We gotta defund that shit.
brian moses
We gotta defund the Catholic Church, man.
joe rogan
You can't do that anymore.
Just like you can't lie if you're a banker.
You know what I'm saying?
Just like you can't have poor construction standards if you're a civil engineer.
You gotta do the right thing, man, across the board.
Whether it's with religion or with finances or with government or healthcare.
Everything has to be done the right way across the board.
freddie gibbs
I can't fuck with Catholicism because I can't go sit and talk to no motherfucker and confess to no human being.
brian moses
Right.
unidentified
Like, what the fuck?
freddie gibbs
So you just holding everybody's secrets.
You go outside and be like, hey, man, shit.
You know that nigga be digging in his ass, man.
joe rogan
I had a bit about confession.
freddie gibbs
You know what I'm saying?
Like, why the fuck am I going to confess to you, bitch?
joe rogan
Exactly.
freddie gibbs
Fuck you.
Who are you confessing to?
So what makes you so much better than me?
You know what I'm saying?
brian moses
That's a major question.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, that's crazy.
I couldn't do no shit like that.
So I always looked at that like...
joe rogan
Some dudes just wake up every day and go, keep it in your pants.
And they keep going.
They get through years and years of just keep it in your pants.
They don't do anything.
Keep it in your pants.
brian moses
It's that one time.
It's like being an NFL DB. I'll stick this guy for 99% or maybe 85% of these passes.
joe rogan
Knee blows apart.
brian moses
Yeah.
Or you get a double move.
freddie gibbs
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Both those things can happen.
freddie gibbs
Damn it, man.
joe rogan
Isn't it crazy, though?
freddie gibbs
How can you go...
Why do you sign up to not fuck?
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
It doesn't make sense.
brian moses
You're voluntarily doing it.
joe rogan
Well, here's the reason for it.
Do you know the reason for it?
Those guys were running shit.
This was the thing.
Back in the day, before they made them celibate, they were like, we got a problem here.
These priests are fucking all these women.
They're probably fucking everybody.
You're talking about thousands of years ago.
People were wild.
They lived to be 12. They just fucked each other and jumped off cliffs.
They didn't know what they were doing.
They were wild people.
And that's when they decided, hey, hey, hey, if you want to be a priest, you can't fuck anymore.
Oh, my God.
I can't believe they did this.
It's like impeaching Trump for the third time.
They put the brakes on the chaos.
They're like, no more.
You got to stop fucking everybody.
freddie gibbs
That's how I feel like monogamy got invented.
I feel like a bad motherfucker that couldn't get no bitches.
Like, oh, you taking all the bitches.
Hell no, just one.
Only one.
You know what I'm saying?
You were entitled to one bitch.
brian moses
What book is that?
freddie gibbs
I just feel like, you know what I mean?
I think that's how that shit got created, man.
joe rogan
Do you think it would be looked at differently if there was one woman who had, like, ten boyfriends?
It's one woman who just had a lot of money, and she had these ten male strippers.
freddie gibbs
It don't bother me.
Chaka Khan fucked everybody in her band.
brian moses
Hey man, there's a book called Wheel of Time.
freddie gibbs
And it worked.
brian moses
There's a book called Wheel of Time and it's all about that polyamory stuff and women running.
They say, I let my dude go fuck other people or whatever because I'm a busy person.
So these women, these queens are running the country and they make these dudes, you know, like, I can't always be with him so I don't want to make him feel bad.
So yeah, you can go fuck other people.
joe rogan
Is that the plot of Wonder Woman 1984?
freddie gibbs
Yes, Joe!
brian moses
I don't know if that's the plot.
That's Wheel of Time.
freddie gibbs
It's just a book.
Wonder Woman.
That bitch played Wonder Woman fine as fuck.
I fuck shit out of that.
I wonder, bitch.
How did it feel?
joe rogan
The first one was good.
brian moses
I really enjoyed the first one.
freddie gibbs
I like it.
It's good.
I think DC trying to come...
Well, they can't fuck with Marvel.
Let's be real.
brian moses
They got Batman.
joe rogan
Isn't that interesting, though?
Batman's just a rich dude.
He's just a rich dude with a cool suit.
freddie gibbs
That's why he's the best superhero, because he don't need no fake-ass power.
joe rogan
He's a weird one, because you don't really want to be him, because you could.
Anybody had the suit and all the gadgets and shit?
He's not particularly talented.
brian moses
That's true.
I did see Damon Wayne's Blank Man.
joe rogan
That's better.
See, the thing is, Batman doesn't have any physical...
The idea of Batman versus Superman is so fucking stupid.
brian moses
Ridiculous.
joe rogan
It's so stupid.
brian moses
This is an alien who can kill you.
unidentified
Nigga, hold on.
freddie gibbs
Time out, nigga.
unidentified
If I got the motherfucking kryptonite, he can't do shit.
brian moses
Alright, but where you get kryptonite from?
freddie gibbs
Batman had that shit.
brian moses
Yeah, he got that shit.
He paid for it.
You're right.
freddie gibbs
He had kryptonite guns and all that shit.
He said, fuck Superman.
joe rogan
I just want to look at things rationally when I'm talking about Superman.
When it comes to Superman, there was a movie where he spun the earth backwards and went back in time.
What is that rich dude in a cape gonna do to fuck with that?
You gonna pull out your kryptonite?
Are you really?
freddie gibbs
I respect that.
joe rogan
This guy's got laser beams for eyeballs.
brian moses
He can be way away from you and kill you.
You're not fucking with him.
freddie gibbs
I respect that.
joe rogan
He can kill you in his eyes.
freddie gibbs
I think Superman's such an old, generic, old 1930s white idea of a superpower.
Because I'm like, that's so bullshit.
You can do everything.
Yeah, you can do everything.
brian moses
Yeah, fuck you.
freddie gibbs
You know what I'm saying?
If I had a superpower like we said at breakfast, I would want to be that dude in the Jumper movie.
joe rogan
Look, he's turning back time.
Look at this movie.
Superman's gonna turn back time.
freddie gibbs
Because somebody died, right?
joe rogan
It's probably the greatest thing that ever happened since the outlaw Josie Wales kicked open a saloon door.
freddie gibbs
Is this the one with Richard Pryor?
joe rogan
It looks so bad!
No, this isn't the one with Richard Pryor.
This is before that.
This is crazy.
brian moses
Yeah, this is when...
joe rogan
I think it is.
brian moses
I don't think it's before...
joe rogan
I don't think it's the Richard Pryor one, though.
Look, you get it?
He's making the Earth go backwards.
Get it?
Get it?
Imagine.
Imagine.
He can go so fast that he can actually...
Oh, don't worry about animals being extinct.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
I just have this thing I have to do for this chick.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian moses
What if you go too far?
joe rogan
What if I bring back the Black Plague?
Whoopsies.
I just want to save this chick.
I really want to fuck.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
You selfish piece of shit.
brian moses
I mean, you break it down like that.
freddie gibbs
That nigga sued, man.
brian moses
He didn't know what the fuck was going to happen.
freddie gibbs
He tried to rewind niggas back into slavery.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian moses
For real though!
joe rogan
What if he stopped at 1492?
brian moses
Fuck!
joe rogan
I gotta eat something.
We're gonna spin it up a little.
We're gonna get it right!
freddie gibbs
Hey man, you better fast forward this shit.
joe rogan
And the wife's yelling at him.
Why didn't you use the map?
That's the wife.
Lois Lane.
And he had a thing for Lois Lane.
Which didn't make any sense.
freddie gibbs
You know why Batman better than Superman?
Because he had real ops.
brian moses
Did he?
freddie gibbs
Nobody had no...
Who was Superman beef with?
Lex Luger?
joe rogan
He had no beef.
freddie gibbs
That's it.
joe rogan
The problem is they didn't have a lot of bad guys back then.
freddie gibbs
Batman had real bad guys.
He had the Joker, the Riddler.
You know what I'm saying?
You're as good as your...
Like with boxing, man.
You're as good as your opponents, man.
brian moses
That's a good point.
joe rogan
I can't fuck with that point.
brian moses
Yeah, he never had no op.
You're right.
freddie gibbs
He never had no real op, man.
Who was he fighting, man?
What the fuck?
He was fighting hurricanes and natural disasters and shit.
brian moses
Yeah, that's the point about boxing.
freddie gibbs
And Superman so caught up on a bitch, Batman was switching bitches out.
Yeah.
unidentified
You on low as Batman.
freddie gibbs
Batman had all kind of hoes.
Batman fucking a reporter.
He fucking the bitch at the laboratory.
brian moses
Mayor, deputy mayor.
freddie gibbs
Deputy mayor.
Whatever.
He could have been gay.
He could have been fucking the what nigga.
brian moses
MF Doom said that Batty Boy song about Robin and Batman.
freddie gibbs
Oh, nah.
Damn, MF Doom said that recipe's MF Doom.
I don't think Batman was gay.
I was joking.
So I don't support that MF Doom song.
I feel you, MF Doom.
brian moses
Yeah, baddie boys.
That's a good one.
freddie gibbs
MF Doom did not show up at his concerts sometimes.
He had sent another motherfucker in a mask.
That was very clever.
brian moses
Really?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like his sore throat or something?
freddie gibbs
No, it was no sore throat.
He just didn't want to go.
He's a fucking peculiar individual.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
brian moses
Yeah.
He had so much anxiety, he didn't want to...
freddie gibbs
It wasn't fucking anxiety.
brian moses
It wasn't?
freddie gibbs
Get the fuck out of here.
unidentified
It wasn't anxiety, no.
freddie gibbs
That motherfucker was doing drugs and drinking, man.
It was MF Doom.
He was getting fucked up.
joe rogan
If anything creates anxiety.
freddie gibbs
So they say he had anxiety.
brian moses
That's what he would say.
freddie gibbs
I think that he's...
One of the most mysterious people ever.
That's what's so great about him.
So I think that his just sometimes say, fuck it.
If I know I'm about to get some money to do a show and I can send a motherfucker there and I don't gotta go and I can still get the money, I would do that shit.
Just to be like, you know what?
I could fuck with these people and I could do that.
brian moses
I mean, it's all some Banksy shit.
freddie gibbs
He was sending somebody in a mask.
The Banksy thing is so crazy.
joe rogan
How long is that guy going to be able to keep that up?
brian moses
Like, people know who he is a little bit, but I think...
joe rogan
They don't, though.
brian moses
Really?
joe rogan
Not really.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Like, there's no, like, stamp on it.
brian moses
But the art is so good.
joe rogan
The art is fascinating.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
But also, it's like the idea that there's this guy that nobody knows exactly who it is, and he makes this art that's coveted by everybody around the world, because it doesn't just stand for art.
It also stands for some sort of a rejection of our modern culture.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some weird ways.
freddie gibbs
He did some crazy shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
He did that, uh...
I think he made a painting or some shit and like sold it.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
freddie gibbs
And then shredded it.
joe rogan
When it was sold at auction, there was a shredder built into the frame.
freddie gibbs
Into the frame.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
It didn't even go all the way down the frame.
This is the jokes on him.
I would want that.
More than I would want a real one.
Because first of all, it's not like the image was like a photograph or anything like that.
You know what I mean?
It's not like it's so perfect, you can't believe it's really a painting.
No, it's like a fascinating piece of art.
So if it's got all these shred marks because he tricked me and cut my fucking painting up, I'm even happier I bought it.
brian moses
Right?
joe rogan
Let me see what it looks like.
jamie vernon
It wasn't supposed to stop.
joe rogan
Good.
jamie vernon
And it happened right after the auction.
joe rogan
Let it go all the way down and be like tassels.
Like a fucking hula hoop.
freddie gibbs
So he didn't shred the whole shit?
jamie vernon
No, it was supposed to go all the way through, but the thing he set up fucked up.
brian moses
I think the halfway thing actually makes it a little more valuable.
joe rogan
It's all interesting.
Even if it goes all the way to the bottom, it shreds this painting.
If it stops right there, just that alone is really interesting.
Just the fact that this is the painting that was up on the wall and it shreds like that.
I would want that to sit the way it is there, post-shredded, more than I would even want it in a frame.
brian moses
Right.
freddie gibbs
Right?
brian moses
Look at this.
Look at this.
Because that's not even his best work.
joe rogan
Well, no.
brian moses
You know what I mean?
The girl with the...
joe rogan
But it might be because of this.
brian moses
That's exactly.
That's what I was trying to get to, yeah.
joe rogan
Where does it stop, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Right there.
That's it where it stops?
joe rogan
That's perfect.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's perfect.
I'll take it.
brian moses
You can afford it, yeah.
joe rogan
No, because it represents chaos.
Like, I don't want a perfect painting.
I want a painting where he tricked me into buying this fucking painting.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Got sliced...
brian moses
That is your taste in art, though.
You like chaos, though.
joe rogan
I definitely like chaos.
brian moses
Yeah, that's your shit.
joe rogan
That's why I love Rose Battle.
brian moses
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
That's one of the reasons why I just love to come to your show.
Rose Battle was the most creative, comic-writing-focused show.
It was an amazing show.
freddie gibbs
The Handicap Guy was the best for me.
brian moses
Oh, Joe Urel, yeah.
freddie gibbs
Oh, yeah.
Amazing.
joe rogan
And it can be again.
I mean, once all this shit...
Die sound and we can do live comedy other than Florida and Texas.
freddie gibbs
Come to Texas?
Fuck, I'm leaving California.
joe rogan
That's what I'm talking about, Freddie.
freddie gibbs
I'm out of here, man.
brian moses
When it comes back, we got some big plans to roast about working with one of your producers on it.
Oh, yeah?
Who?
Mad Lib.
freddie gibbs
Mad Lib.
Shout out to Mad Lib.
joe rogan
Texas, man, right here you could do some great roast battles.
There's some funny people out here, man.
brian moses
They had a thing called Spike Club out here.
So they're well-versed.
They're well-versed in the roast.
This was one of the first places we came when we were touring.
joe rogan
Let me ask you this, because this has troubled me.
Why is it that some people who are really good roasters can't apply that same energy to making their act as good as where it is when they attack someone?
By what they look like, or how stupid they are, or whatever their life is fucked up about that they know about.
Like, some guys are so good at that.
They hit so hard.
But they can't figure out how to do that in just stand-up.
So you go see them at a roast, and you go, holy shit, this guy's a killer.
But then you see their stand-up, and you go...
brian moses
Not the same.
Why?
joe rogan
Tell me why.
brian moses
They're different columns.
They're different...
There's different pillars in, I guess, the comedy genre, right?
Like, you have sketch, you have stand-up, then you have roast battle, and you have improv, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
And roast battle's different because your opponent is the subject.
Like, with stand-up, there's no opponent, it's just you're trying to make the crowd laugh.
This, you're trying to make the crowd laugh, you're trying to take this guy down, you're trying to make your idols proud of you, you're trying to make this crowd laugh, you know what I mean?
There's so much that goes into it, and they're one-liners for the most part, and it's a subject.
Not to say that you aren't the subject when you're doing your own act, but there's so many things that go into you building an hour or half an hour or 45 minutes to me just trying to get through 12 jokes.
joe rogan
I think so, yes, but I also think so, that there's something that forces them into action that regular stand-up doesn't.
brian moses
Fight or flight kind of thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you know you've got a thing that's going to happen in like, you know, 18 days or whatever the fuck it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I don't know how far in advance.
brian moses
Sometimes it can be a week, sometimes it can be two months, yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
So they have a date, and whether it's a week or two months, that's what they're focused on.
And then they start writing.
I'm going to say this, what do you think about that?
And they'll practice their friends like, ah!
You know, and they get real hyper-focused.
But what if everybody did that with everything?
What if everybody did that with your whole act?
Why don't we?
brian moses
I mean, yeah.
That's the great question.
Yeah, I don't know why everybody just, like, attack their set like that.
Because it does take a lot of respect to, like, think about somebody else instead of your own act.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
You know, so you're right.
joe rogan
It's almost like how fast do you run if you're running by yourself versus how fast do you run if you're in a race?
If you run it by yourself, like, this is it.
It's as fast as I can go.
But if you're in a race, he's like, oh, well, I can run faster.
You're like, fuck you, bitch.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
And then you're running.
brian moses
Instant comps.
freddie gibbs
The competition level just raises.
brian moses
Yeah.
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
Boxing.
joe rogan
So that's the thing about roast battle that makes it so special.
It forces people into action where when they're not confronted by, like, impending doom, if they don't get some fucking good solid...
Word.
brian moses
That's like, you know, I'll quote that to basketball, actually.
I remember, like, I was better at maybe playing a team sport because my position was point guard rather than me just, like, playing one-on-one with the dude.
Like, I may beat him, he may beat me, but I wouldn't look good as a one-on-one player, but I'd look way better with the team.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
So I get that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Stand-up is like, to me, it just seemed very conversational.
My favorite stand-up guys are guys that I feel like they just like talking to me.
I don't feel like they trying to hit me with punchlines.
I feel like it's just all natural and they always come back and make it all linked together.
To me, that's what a whole good stand-up act is.
It's just storytelling.
You know what I'm saying?
All it is.
Like Robin Harris.
He told the goddamn Bay Bay Kid story and it turned into a fucking movie.
joe rogan
He has one of my favorite jokes ever.
He goes, I don't like a pretty girl.
He goes, pretty girl's a lot of work.
He goes, I like an ugly girl.
You can tell him anything.
He goes, bitch, I'm going to the moon.
unidentified
She goes, well, you be careful while you're up there.
joe rogan
It's one of those jokes where you hear it, your knees get weak.
freddie gibbs
Oh my God.
joe rogan
You fall on the ground.
Robin Harris was an assassin.
freddie gibbs
He was an assassin.
The joke about the piccolo player.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
Now you're that one.
freddie gibbs
You gotta go that one.
He said, I want to shake the head of the man.
That's it next to the man.
That's it next to the man.
That called my piccolo player a motherfucker.
It's about your motherfuckers.
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
It's such a ridiculous bet.
freddie gibbs
Bro, it's so crazy.
I can't believe you ain't ever heard.
joe rogan
I found out about him right before he died.
I found out about him when I was living in Boston.
There's one album that's released of Robin Harris.
You can get it on cassette.
I don't know if it's available on CD or on iTunes or anything like that.
freddie gibbs
He is one of the greats.
joe rogan
Dude, he was so funny.
freddie gibbs
He was Sweet Dick Willie in Through the Right Thing.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
He was in Mo' Better Blues, too.
freddie gibbs
He told that joke in Mo' Better Blues about the fat girl.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's right.
Robin Harris, he was a pioneer.
freddie gibbs
He was a pioneer.
joe rogan
He was a guy that made it look like he was having so much fun.
He figured out this vibe where he was just having so much fun, and he would have so much fun watching him.
There was this confidence that you had in him that he was funny.
freddie gibbs
Bitch, I'm going to the moon!
He that old black uncle that always got some shit to say about something.
Like, he go complain about everything.
It could be a spread.
He's like, oh man, well fuck this shit.
They put too much goddamn lettuce on him, man.
unidentified
Fuck this.
freddie gibbs
Like, he always got, like you said, from Do The Right Thing, when he was Sweet Dick Willie, man, he's like, why they call you Sweet Dick Willie?
He's like, my bitches call me Sweet.
You know what I'm saying?
He's just an agitated Older black men cursing is so funny to me.
Because I grew up on that.
My granddad was such a...
He cursed so fucking much.
So him and his friends cursing is just some of the most comical shit to me.
I don't know why, but I watch that shit on YouTube.
I be pulling up old black men cursing and I watch that shit.
brian moses
Is that a category?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, bro.
They just be like...
They just say dumb shit.
Like, go to hell.
Go to shit.
They curse different.
joe rogan
I saw Bernie Mac in Boston.
freddie gibbs
Oh my god, Bernie Mac is the greatest.
joe rogan
Before the Kings of Comedy, when he was doing clubs, he did the Comedy Connection in Boston.
I don't remember why I was in the area.
Maybe I was coming from a gig or going to a gig or whatever, and I stopped in.
God damn, dude.
God damn, he was murdering.
Just murdering.
I'm pretty sure it was the Comedy Connection.
I'm trying to remember which club.
I'm pretty sure it was the Comedy Connection of Fanny Hall.
But I never remember the power that he had in his delivery on stage.
brian moses
I would love to see that dude live.
I never got to see a lot.
freddie gibbs
When he was like, I ain't scared of you, motherfuckers.
joe rogan
It was that kind of power.
brian moses
That fearless shit, I think we all look for that as standards, right?
joe rogan
Dude, let me tell you one of the best sets I've ever seen in my fucking life.
Eddie Griffin on Def Jam.
One of the best sets I've ever seen.
freddie gibbs
Def Jam has some fucking classic sets.
joe rogan
Eddie Griffin comes out in shorts.
Eddie Griffin comes out guns blazing in shorts.
And I remember watching him kill.
And I was probably like a year into comedy.
I'm like, I should just quit.
I should just quit.
I should just quit.
I just can't do that.
I can't do that.
brian moses
That guy is prime, man.
joe rogan
Dude, people forget.
People forget.
You know who else people forget about?
Damon Wayans.
brian moses
Damon Wayans.
freddie gibbs
You know why people forget?
brian moses
I mean, man.
freddie gibbs
Because after the comedy career goes and they get all these goddamn shows, like, you think it's Damon Wayans from My Wife and Kids, but Damon Wayans' HBO stand-up is one of the greatest of all time.
joe rogan
Yeah, The Last Stand.
The Last Stand.
freddie gibbs
The Last Stand.
That was the shit.
He broke the mic.
joe rogan
He talked about Tommy Hearns.
brian moses
Did he?
joe rogan
Yeah, he talked about Tommy Hearns in there.
freddie gibbs
He talked about Mike Tyson, too.
joe rogan
Mike Tyson and Tommy Hearns.
unidentified
He said Mike Tyson walked up to me and was like, hey, I'ma fuck you with your ass.
Shit.
brian moses
I said, okay, mate.
joe rogan
No, he said, well, he goes, I have to talk stuff like, well, don't be taking so long.
freddie gibbs
Oh, yeah, yeah!
joe rogan
Remember that?
Right.
Oh, my God, you remember that?
brian moses
Oh, that's right.
That's another underrated dude, man.
joe rogan
Dude, Damon Wayans.
freddie gibbs
Damon Wayans was one of the greatest, bro.
joe rogan
He made a shitload of money doing TV shows.
brian moses
Yeah, he did.
joe rogan
And he just stopped.
freddie gibbs
People don't give Jamie Foxx his credit.
brian moses
He loves stand-up.
joe rogan
Dude, I saw him at the improv.
He was murdering.
freddie gibbs
I want to see Jamie Foxx do another stand-up.
joe rogan
The lab.
He was fucking around in the lab.
You want to talk about discipline?
That guy has filmed every show he's ever done since the 1990s.
He brings a tripod and he brings a camera, some sort of video camera, to every show he does.
He films all of them, he edits them himself, and he goes over all of his material.
freddie gibbs
Damon Wayans?
joe rogan
Damon Wayans.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Every show he's ever done.
He edits, he does it all himself.
He brought, he was carrying the fucking tripod with this camera at the improv and he set it down.
And we were talking.
And he's like, I film every show I do.
And I've done it since the 1990s.
It's like thousands of shows.
He goes over everything.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
unidentified
Smart.
brian moses
No, that's what you're supposed to do.
freddie gibbs
I want to see Jamie Foxx do another show.
People would be underrating his stand-up.
He's one of the best, too, man.
brian moses
I Might Need Security is a hell of a stand-up special.
joe rogan
He could do anything.
There's people that could just do anything.
brian moses
I Might Need Security.
Man.
freddie gibbs
Shit, it's just...
joe rogan
There's people that just, they know that he can sing, he can do comedy, he can pretend he's different human beings.
He was Ray Fox.
I mean, Ray Charles, rather.
He was Ray Charles, and he was brilliant.
And he realized how talented he is at singing.
And he's actually playing the fucking piano.
I mean, come on, man.
unidentified
You think about that roster for In Living Color, right?
freddie gibbs
I was just about to say, you took the words right out of my mouth.
brian moses
Jim Carrey, Jamie Foxx, Damon Wayans, Keenan, Kim Wayans.
joe rogan
I was at a pool hall in 1991, 92, whatever the fuck it was, and we were playing pool, and I looked up the first episode I ever saw of In Living Color.
It was during a football game, there was like a halftime thing, and Jim Carrey was playing a burn victim.
He was playing that.
freddie gibbs
Fire Marshal Bill.
joe rogan
Fire Marshal Bill.
freddie gibbs
Oh my god.
joe rogan
And I remember we were playing pool.
Me and my friend Johnny were like, oh my god, I can't fucking believe this is real.
That guy's pretending he's a burn victim.
jamie vernon
You know what's kind of funny?
When he did Joe Biden, the two characters were not that far apart.
freddie gibbs
Right!
brian moses
Let me tell you what I'm done.
Really?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I mean...
joe rogan
Let me see what this Joe Biden's like, because I know Fire Marshal Bill.
freddie gibbs
Oh, yeah.
brian moses
Tommy Davidson was there, too.
freddie gibbs
That Living Color cast was one of the best.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian moses
Still.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
To this day.
freddie gibbs
Better than any SNL cast, man.
brian moses
Well, they have good individuals.
freddie gibbs
Except the one with Eddie Murphy.
joe rogan
There's some great ones in the early days with John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd and Gilda Radner.
There's some great ones in the early days.
But the problem with Saturday Night Live is not that there's not amazing sketches.
It's just so many of them.
Every week they have to do a new one.
There's just so many.
The odds are you're going to have all perfect performances.
brian moses
All bangers, right?
jamie vernon
With his mouth, he's tightening that lip.
The rest is similar.
unidentified
It's a different character, obviously.
jamie vernon
Maybe he's just tapping into that old boy.
joe rogan
Just like him, though.
There's going to be a progression of things that happen.
People are going to realize that, okay, we can relax.
Trump is never going to be president again.
He's not the president.
It's over.
Joe Biden's won now.
What have we done?
freddie gibbs
But Trump can run again.
joe rogan
But can he?
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
jamie vernon
He's supposed to announce it again this week.
joe rogan
That he's going to run again?
jamie vernon
At the CPAC that he's supposed to talk at, he's supposed to say he's going to announce it.
joe rogan
You might have to call those aliens.
freddie gibbs
Right, so imagine how he's about to turn these Trumpers all the way up, dog.
They already stormed.
brian moses
Why can't he just do a talk show?
joe rogan
We need to talk to him about podcasts.
brian moses
One of the things I was like, man, he's going to be the greatest free agency in podcast history.
freddie gibbs
That would, right?
joe rogan
The thing is, he's a super competitive guy.
Do you ever see that White House press correspondence dinner?
I think that's what it was, where Obama was on stage and he was talking to Trump and he was making fun of him.
And he said, here's one thing that I am that you'll never be.
I'm the president of the United States.
And everybody goes crazy.
Have you ever seen that?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, allegedly, that's what's stuck in that motherfucker's head.
brian moses
I believe it.
joe rogan
That's what's stuck in his head, and he's like, oh yeah, oh yeah, I don't fucking show you.
And now he's still on that.
brian moses
And then he won.
unidentified
And he won.
joe rogan
He's still on that same shit.
brian moses
He won.
freddie gibbs
Shitted on Obama.
brian moses
Same, man.
Yeah.
When the history books are done, yeah, we will be sad.
That guy did that.
He was a hell of a businessman who had a lot of bankrupt season and got in the office.
freddie gibbs
And got in the fucking office.
brian moses
Had a hell of a reality show.
That was number one a bunch.
I mean, yeah, the guy's just...
He's an American, true and true.
joe rogan
He is.
In the darkest ways.
brian moses
Right.
Precisely.
joe rogan
I think it's going to heighten our need for something that's better.
There he is.
Yes, he's in the audience.
Oh, Boba Zings, Donald Trump.
Give me here this.
barack obama
We act to focusing on the issues that matter.
unidentified
Like, did we fake the moon landing?
He's just like, well, maybe it's debatable.
Say what you will about Mr. Trump.
barack obama
He certainly would bring some change to the White House.
joe rogan
Wow.
Isn't this crazy?
They show the Trump White House.
unidentified
Your credentials and breadth of experience.
freddie gibbs
Wow.
barack obama
For example, seriously, just recently, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, the men's cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks.
And there was a lot of blame to go around, but you, Mr. Trump, recognized that the real problem was a lack of leadership.
And so, ultimately, you didn't blame Little John or Meat Loaf.
unidentified
You fired Gary Busey.
And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up at night.
freddie gibbs
Damn, he was shitting on him.
unidentified
He's in these type decisions that would keep me up at night.
joe rogan
You know, the problem with one of those things is, like, if you know you're just going to cap on Trump when he's in the audience, you kind of should allow him to come up.
And you should kind of tell him about it in advance.
brian moses
Yeah!
joe rogan
Like, what am I planning on doing?
Well, here's what I'm planning on doing, dude.
I'm sorry to say this, but I gotta shit all over you.
You're kind of a ridiculous person, so I'm gonna tell everybody.
But now you've been warned, now you can shit on me too.
brian moses
Right.
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
Oh, he shitted on Obama a lot.
unidentified
If he just did that, maybe he wouldn't have ran for president.
jamie vernon
Maybe that's just his response for the previous election.
joe rogan
Bro, that guy got that shit stuck in his head and ran for president.
brian moses
And he won.
And then he won.
joe rogan
Like Obama, and rightfully so, he had some legitimate criticisms.
But the way he went about fooling that guy and clowning that guy publicly in front of the world probably created a monster.
freddie gibbs
Yep.
I'm the same way.
I'm ultra-competitive.
Me and Trump got the same birthday.
joe rogan
You believe in that?
freddie gibbs
June 14th.
brian moses
On flag day?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is that what makes you competitive though?
Probably not, right?
unidentified
Nah, nah, nah.
freddie gibbs
I'm just a competitive person.
joe rogan
June 1, you'd still be going after it?
brian moses
Yeah, I'm June 1, sure.
There you go.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, but me and Trump got the same birthday.
brian moses
Damn.
Alright.
freddie gibbs
It used to be cool to say you got the same birthday as Donald Trump, but...
brian moses
Yeah, back when he was cool.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, back when he was cool with niggas.
Late 90s.
joe rogan
It's like if a guy says you were really born in Kenya...
You know, this is all bullshit.
You were born in Kenya.
Like, I kind of think you guys need to get together.
brian moses
Thank you, Russia and America 1950. Let's put some cameras on you two guys.
joe rogan
Hey, Donald, why the fuck do you think he's from Kenya?
Like, and have them talk.
Like, if you just snipe at each other from Twitter or whatever you're doing, it's so dumb.
brian moses
If you could get Obama and Trump in this fucking room.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
All together.
brian moses
Dog.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's when you know I've been compromised.
The government's got a hold of me.
They traded me.
I want to know about UFOs.
They wanted to get Obama and Trump together.
I said, I'll do it.
I'll do it.
I gotta be high, though.
brian moses
I can't do this sober.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
brian moses
I love it.
You wouldn't get a word in edgewise.
joe rogan
I wouldn't want to.
Occasionally, there's got to be some points where you've got to go stop.
You've got to stop talking over each other.
Have courage.
Have courage in your beliefs enough to let a guy talk first.
Let it all play out.
Let's see.
We got plenty of time.
That's the problem.
They never have plenty of time.
They always have like an hour.
brian moses
Right.
You give them 24 hours.
You're like, let it go, fellas.
joe rogan
I would be here.
I would occasionally leave to pee.
Jamie would take over.
He would leave to pee.
I would hang in as long as it took.
It's like one of them Pray the Gay Away seminars.
I would fail to win it.
I would hang in there until we get the result that we're looking for.
I'm not scared of hard work.
brian moses
We're 84% done.
joe rogan
I'm not scared of hard work!
brian moses
That gay's still in there.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
That has got to be one of the wildest things that we don't criticize.
The idea that you're going to get a dude and you're going to hold his hand and pray the gay away and that this was a valid approach.
freddie gibbs
You can't do that, man.
You like the fuck you like, man.
Ain't nothing you can pray on.
If you're freaky shit, you don't like that.
I like blonde bitches.
brian moses
Ain't nothing gonna change that.
Take them priests, hold their hands, and be like, pray this shit away.
joe rogan
I think the problem with the priest is always going to be the problem that they're suppressed.
And I think there's a thing...
You know that expression, like, hurt people hurt people?
Well, molested people tend to molest people.
And it's not always.
It's not always.
But there's a common bond between...
People who have been sexually assaulted when they were young who go on to sexually assault other people.
It's not always, but it's enough so that they're trying to figure out, like, why that is.
And it's that, like, really common expression.
Hurt people hurt people.
People that have been molested or abused.
Kids, like, a lot of times kids that have been beat up by their parents, they go on to beat up their children or beat up their wife.
This is, like, it's a natural thing, man.
It's fucked.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, that is fucked up.
brian moses
It's fucked.
It's been happening for so long, though.
Dude, for fucking thousands of years.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
brian moses
Like, yeah.
We can't stop this?
joe rogan
That's the thing.
If you go back to listen to, like, if you read the words of people that lived in, like, Socrates' time or Aristotle's time, and if you piece it together after a while, you're like, oh my god, it's a wild world where men had relationships with boys.
It was totally normal.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
And people died of all kinds of fucking diseases.
Anytime you got anything, you were dead.
brian moses
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, you can get Al Capone died from BD. Bro, whatever you got, you're dead.
joe rogan
Or you break your foot, you're dead.
You're dead.
You're going to get sepsis in your foot.
Or we might tie it off at the knee and saw it off and give you a fucking peg leg.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Literally.
Like, this is what they did.
They didn't know anything.
They had no antibiotics.
freddie gibbs
For breaking your ankle, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Listen, you break your arm, you might bleed to death.
Your arm might rot off.
You might get necrosis.
You might get diseases.
You might get infections.
You might never live any broken bones.
So people don't make it.
They don't make it.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy to think about.
People's breaking their bones.
brian moses
All that was happening, but they still had to be like, hey, I'm 19. This boy's 6. He's with me.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
joe rogan
He broke his ankle.
That part's fucked up, but just think about the injury thing.
They can fix so many more injuries today.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those guys who can fix people are wizards.
The idea that we should treat them like regular people, we should give them whatever they need.
unidentified
What do you need?
joe rogan
Do you need cocaine?
Do you need diamonds?
freddie gibbs
My brother fixed pussies.
He's a gynecologist.
brian moses
Really?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, OBGYN. He delivers babies and shit.
He's one of the top OBGYN niggas in Chicago.
brian moses
You know what the N stands for?
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess OBGYN. I've never heard fixed pussies, but I like what you're saying.
I like the assuredness.
freddie gibbs
He fixed them up.
I ask him all the time.
I'd be like, man, you don't get tired of looking at pussy all day?
He's like, man, sometimes it's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Listen, don't throw him under the bus.
Listen.
People are going to find him.
The internet is long and wide.
freddie gibbs
They already know who he is.
It's all good.
brian moses
Yeah, he puts them on.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I already talk shit.
I talk shit about my brother all the time.
He don't give a fuck.
He love it.
brian moses
That's hilarious.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, I should have hit him, called in, like Dr. Drew, like Adam Carolla.
Yeah, that'd be a dope-ass show for me and my brother.
joe rogan
You know what I'm the most scared of about us, about people today?
brian moses
What?
joe rogan
Is that we're going to give up all the things that are fun about the chaos of being a person in exchange for safety.
That one day is going to come an option where we can merge with machines, merge with the internet, and take a chip in your brain, and become a part of the matrix, and give up on all the lust and all the nonsense and all the chaos.
brian moses
We won't be here for that.
joe rogan
But we might be, man.
We might be like fucking 70 years old looking back.
unidentified
Hey, remember we talked about this on the podcast?
joe rogan
And here we are!
freddie gibbs
They're already trying to chip us.
They're trying to put you a credit card and shit.
brian moses
Some guys are with it.
I saw that Tattoo Nation and everything.
He was talking about this guy just gets tattooed, but he also gets like, he has like chips or like things he puts in to be identified.
joe rogan
Well, if you're not doing anything shady...
unidentified
Ships.
joe rogan
If you're not doing anything shady, take the chip.
brian moses
My buddy was saying this, actually.
He was saying, what he thinks in the future is we're going to have robots, right?
But what's going to happen is these robots, it'll be going to trial instead of the robots, it'll be the people who own the robots.
And I was like, that just sounds like slavery.
You know what I mean?
It's going to be these robots and slaves because we own them, right?
And they're doing all the work for us, right?
And this guy's under my name.
And then eventually they're going to get smart enough and then, you know, have a slave rebellion and kill all of them.
joe rogan
I think it's going to get way crazier than that.
Damn!
brian moses
Crazier than that?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're going to pull a switch at some point in time and they're going to allow artificial intelligence to act on its own accord.
That's terrible.
They're going to allow artificial intelligence to...
They're going to trick us.
It's like a wonderful woman who's seductive tricks you into pulling your dick out and strokes it on the outside of its pants.
They're going to trick us.
They're going to trick us into letting them take over and become sentient.
Someone's going to come along.
It's going to be like, if there's a competition, they're making money, but there's other people that are making money also.
They try to figure out who gets to the finish line of creating a legitimate...
Artificial organism that can think for itself.
And once they do, that thing's gonna think for itself and it's gonna make a better version of itself.
It's like, oh, these dummies, they don't even know how to wire things right.
Let me show you how to do it right.
And then they make a better version of themselves and then that thing makes a better version of itself.
And they can do this.
brian moses
Generations after that.
joe rogan
They've studied this and they've done these scientific analysis of how technology progresses over time when some immensely epic Iconic moment happens.
And they think that it's legitimately possible that thousands of years of evolution and technology could take place over a short period of time.
Because they would just keep making better and better robots.
So we would just go into some insane impossible for our Primate brains.
We're all human beings.
We're all biological animals and our brains are capable of like giving birth to this thing that's gonna be infinitely more intelligent than we could ever be.
And that thing's gonna be the new thing.
Just like we are not running from jaguars into fucking trees anymore.
brian moses
Exactly, yeah.
joe rogan
That thing's gonna be the next thing.
freddie gibbs
Damn, that's some iRobot shit.
brian moses
Yeah, yeah.
We ain't gonna be here for it, though.
unidentified
It is.
brian moses
It is.
joe rogan
You say that, but we might be.
brian moses
Right, right.
joe rogan
Think about 20 years ago when there was no phones.
brian moses
Damn, bro.
unidentified
What?
brian moses
I mean, 10 years ago, shit.
freddie gibbs
Right.
joe rogan
Well, 10 years ago.
Well, the iPhone was 2009?
freddie gibbs
Yeah, when did that come out?
joe rogan
2009?
brian moses
No, seven, right?
unidentified
Seven?
freddie gibbs
Hell nah.
joe rogan
Okay, 2007. So 2007, so the iPhone has been around for 14 years, right?
Which is crazy.
Before then, think about the world with no smartphones.
It's a different world.
You can't answer questions.
You don't know where to go if you don't have a map.
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
There's so many different things.
freddie gibbs
I used to find my holes.
I used to print the motherfucking MapQuest on the internet.
I'm like, I'll print that shit out.
I'm coming to you, bitch!
I'm coming.
I got that shit printed out on paper.
My mama be like, don't be printing all my paper, nigga.
brian moses
What the fuck?
freddie gibbs
Fuck you printing out, nigga.
You ain't going to school.
Printing out map directions to go see a bitch.
They've got the whole map.
I got the...
joe rogan
You should have a YouTube show with just you and your mom.
She breaks things down.
freddie gibbs
My mom the shit, man.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
freddie gibbs
I'm telling you, man.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
freddie gibbs
She grew up on goddamn 17th Avenue in Gary, Indiana, man.
So you know she got a mean streak in her.
joe rogan
Imagine being a person trying to meet a woman in 1920. And he's out there chopping wood, going like this.
Nothing.
There's nothing chopping wood.
Trying to stay alive.
You got no time to venture forth into the forest.
brian moses
Yeah.
Radio was just coming into play.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian moses
Big oil was coming into play.
joe rogan
They didn't have like dating apps.
brian moses
No.
joe rogan
Like radio apps.
brian moses
But the flappers came in.
So women were a little more promiscuous in the 20s.
freddie gibbs
They were?
brian moses
Yeah.
They became more promiscuous in the 20s.
Yeah.
For the speakeasies.
joe rogan
But you know why that happened?
Because it was post the Spanish flu.
So the Spanish flu was in 1918. Oh, shit.
freddie gibbs
Well, post-corona.
brian moses
They're saying the same thing.
They're predicting the same thing.
joe rogan
Yes, exactly.
For sure.
Because it's just like Catholic school girls.
You get them suppressed, you box them into a corner, and they burst out like wild cats.
freddie gibbs
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
And that's what's going to happen.
freddie gibbs
Okay.
joe rogan
The roaring 20s in the 2020s are going to be the same as the roaring 20s from the 1920s.
Because it's a real similar timeline.
Look, COVID-19, 2018, Spanish flow, it's literally 101 years.
It's almost dead on the money.
freddie gibbs
Same thing.
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy.
brian moses
It is, yeah.
It feels like that, yeah.
freddie gibbs
That is crazy.
brian moses
Is there going to be a depression in the 30s, though?
joe rogan
There's a depression right now, for sure.
Well, that depression was different.
That was like some stock market malarkey, which definitely could happen at any time.
I mean, that's why, like, all these people who think you need no regulation, like...
You can't let those fucking savages just steer this ship right to the rock for a bag of gold coins.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They're animals.
brian moses
Yeah.
joe rogan
These fucking people are animals.
Like those Bernie Madoffs of the world.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
All these fucking finance people.
freddie gibbs
Oh, my God.
brian moses
I don't want you to have money.
joe rogan
There's some great ones with wonderful morals, and there's some fucking savages out there who sell their soul to Robert De Niro.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian moses
Goddamn right.
freddie gibbs
It's real shit.
joe rogan
They're real.
Yeah.
They're fucking animals, man.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, that Bernie Madoff movie, when I watched that, I was like, damn, bro, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Dude, he got everybody.
freddie gibbs
He was getting everybody.
He was just putting shit here and there.
I'm like, damn.
joe rogan
He got everybody.
freddie gibbs
I didn't even know that many people would trust you with all that fucking money, man.
joe rogan
He got smart people like Steven Spielberg.
unidentified
He got Spielberg, bro.
brian moses
I mean, fuck, you see NXIVM is the same thing, that cult.
joe rogan
Well, that's a little different.
They're branding chicks and fucking them.
brian moses
That's a totally different thing.
I'm saying, but he got smart people to believe in it.
You get that What the Bleep guy to believe in it.
Which guy?
joe rogan
Which What the Bleep guy?
brian moses
The guy who did the first series, What the Bleep?
The guy who directed it?
joe rogan
What the Bleep do we know?
brian moses
What the Bleep do we know?
joe rogan
The thing about that What the Bleep do we know is a lot of it is based on scientific ignorance.
It's a lack of understanding of what quantum physics are really all about, what the observer effect is really all about.
Also, the lady who's talking through that, Ramtha, you know that Ramtha?
Do you know that's not really her name?
She's actually channeling a 1,000-year-old alien when she's Ramtha.
Oh yeah, it makes a difference, doesn't it?
Yeah, it does.
Yeah, that's what the fucking show is about.
Like, when you talk to real quantum physicists...
was gonna join a cult anyway if you talk to someone like sean carroll or like someone like neil degrasse tyson that really understand astronomy or astrophysics or time travel or any these weird things that they're trying to break down this movie yeah and they're like no no no no no no no no everybody says that They show the observer effect that happens on particles, and you're observing them in a wave.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
No, it's changing because you're observing them.
You're using these things to observe them.
It changes what happens to the particles.
Yeah, it's confusing, but you're making it out like it's magic.
brian moses
Right.
joe rogan
You fucks.
There's shit that is magic, though.
freddie gibbs
The only motherfucker I trust on TV talking about science is Bill Nye the Science Guy.
joe rogan
He's got a sweet tie.
brian moses
Yeah.
Bill Nye's great.
freddie gibbs
Bill Nye's the shit.
brian moses
There's a new girl, too.
A space gal.
freddie gibbs
Fuck her.
brian moses
Bill Nye?
joe rogan
Well, we need a bunch of them.
brian moses
We need a bunch of them.
freddie gibbs
Bill Nye the science guy?
joe rogan
We need people that make it entertaining to learn about important shit.
unidentified
True.
freddie gibbs
Bill Nye was him.
He was that guy that made it entertaining.
brian moses
Yeah, he made it easy for us.
He was like Mr. Rogers for science.
freddie gibbs
Yeah.
I love Bill Nye the science guy.
That made me read my science books.
I'm like, yeah, Bill Nye talking that shit.
brian moses
Man, get out of here.
joe rogan
You know what we really need right now?
We need a new Bob Ross.
brian moses
Word.
We do need a new Bob Ross.
jamie vernon
He's actually made a huge comeback over the last two years.
unidentified
I hope so.
joe rogan
Let's help him out right now.
That guy was calming.
He was so calming.
jamie vernon
He's like every, someone's running his, uh, all of his, you know, the company, if you will, his name.
He's on Twitch, like a livestream every other day or something.
joe rogan
Oh, so he's constantly painting?
jamie vernon
All of his old videos.
He's dead.
He's passed.
joe rogan
Oh, he's dead?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, I didn't know he was dead.
brian moses
A few years ago, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
You cannot get one of those paintings, apparently.
joe rogan
They're impossible to get?
jamie vernon
They're locked up.
joe rogan
Really?
brian moses
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
So he won't sell them or anything?
jamie vernon
No, I mean, they won't.
joe rogan
They won't?
freddie gibbs
Really?
brian moses
Oh, the estate.
The Ross estate.
jamie vernon
That's the word I was looking for.
freddie gibbs
Damn.
Have you got an original Bob Ross in your house?
joe rogan
Holy shit.
Imagine if that becomes like when the state dies and some great-grandchild fucking sells out.
brian moses
It becomes like Basquiat.
freddie gibbs
He's going to be like, man, you know what?
Fuck this page.
He's going to be like, man, how many motherfuckers he got down that a nigga painted every day for 50 years, nigga?
Fuck that.
brian moses
It would be funny if he was a Ross crackhead grandson.
freddie gibbs
I'll sell some of the motherfuckers.
I ain't going to lie.
brian moses
I would.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Almost every Bob Ross painting in existence lives in a Virginia office park.
Holy shit.
jamie vernon
When he would paint one, he'd paint three copies.
One for him, and then he would give one to this lady that funded him when he started.
joe rogan
Is that his painting right there?
unidentified
Time out.
freddie gibbs
How the fuck you paint three copies of that?
joe rogan
Dude, make that bigger.
Can you make that bigger?
jamie vernon
You do one for TV and then make the extra copy for her.
freddie gibbs
How do you make...
That's what I'm saying.
How do you copy that?
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
freddie gibbs
That's crazy, bro.
brian moses
I think the third one's probably the best.
joe rogan
When you see something like that, it represents...
You don't just say, oh, that looks realistic.
You go, how good did that guy have to be at painting to make that?
freddie gibbs
Right?
Was he on PBS? There she is.
joe rogan
I think so.
His longtime business partner Annette Kawasaki.
Ross himself was a Florida man.
He was born in Daytona Beach, 1942. Grew up in Orlando.
When Ross turned 18, he enlisted in the United States Air Force.
Okay, it's about him before.
But, I mean, he's probably like the most famous modern painter, right?
Who's more famous?
But he's more famous than Banksy.
brian moses
Yeah.
He's painting.
Banksy's doing stencils.
joe rogan
It's close.
Jamie, do you agree with that?
Banksy more famous than Bob Ross?
freddie gibbs
It's just a cult thing.
brian moses
It's close.
jamie vernon
Worldwide notoriety.
More people in Europe might know who Banksy is, but they might not know Bob Ross.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
You go over there and they got fucking weird cigarette warnings.
You ever seen those?
They show photos of people dying.
freddie gibbs
Dying in the lungs, black and shit.
brian moses
On the cigarette packs?
freddie gibbs
On the pack.
Like, you might buy some marble rolls and you won't see marble roll on it at all.
It'd just be a pair of black lungs or some shit like that.
joe rogan
And there's no pushback.
People are like, okay.
And then people keep smoking.
They smoke more than ever over there!
freddie gibbs
Bro, I bought a pack of Backwoods in Australia.
That shit hit a dead baby on the motherfucker.
I was like, damn, what the fuck?
Smoking can fuck you up if you're pregnant.
I'm like, damn.
Thank God I ain't pregnant, bitch.
Because I want these bloods.
brian moses
Yeah, on Backwoods.
joe rogan
They'll show you photos of cancer-ridden organs.
brian moses
Damn!
joe rogan
No bullshit.
I was over there for the UFC the first time I ever went over there.
And I was talking to this dude at the bar and he had this pack of cigarettes.
I go, can I see your cigarettes?
He shows me.
I go, what the fuck is that?
He goes, oh yeah, mate.
They fucking make us look at this, mate.
And he's like, show me these pictures.
Like lungs and throat cancer.
brian moses
They put it on the package.
joe rogan
There it is.
Yeah, look at that.
Look at these images.
brian moses
It was weird.
freddie gibbs
What the fuck is a fucked up foot?
joe rogan
It kills your foot, bro.
freddie gibbs
Oh my god.
joe rogan
What does it say?
jamie vernon
Peripheral vascular disease.
freddie gibbs
I don't want that.
joe rogan
Peripheral vascular disease.
Oh my god, you see bones rotting out of that person's foot.
jamie vernon
They just found the worst picture.
freddie gibbs
Kids, god damn.
brian moses
Like some garbage pill kid shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they don't care over there in England.
You can show them those pictures and they smoke more.
freddie gibbs
Shit, in Russia they got the, you know, they got them dope booths where they can go in like a phone booth and go do drugs.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian moses
Oh, you can do that?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian moses
See?
joe rogan
Don't they do that in Amsterdam, too?
They have something along those lines where they provide people with needles and make it easier.
freddie gibbs
Prostitution is illegal, too.
I promise, man, that's the worst fucking sex experience I've had in my life, going to Amsterdam, buying some pussy out one of them windows.
brian moses
Why was the experience so bad?
freddie gibbs
I just wanted to go because I wanted to check it out because everybody talk about red light district all that shit so I was like alright I'm about some pussy today but I'm gonna fuck around and do it so you know I had my little hundred euros so then I walked all night through the shit looked at all the holes and I was like oh yeah this shit this is okay cool so I'm just gonna pick some pussy I saw this badass white bitch Wait
a minute, did you say from a bike?
From the back.
unidentified
Oh, the back.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, the bike.
joe rogan
I was like, a bike?
That's a lot to ask for.
unidentified
Yeah.
freddie gibbs
She didn't want to fuck.
She didn't want to do it doggy style.
All that, man.
It was just all fucked up, man.
I didn't really want to.
It was a bad sexual experience.
I feel like I did not get my fucking money's worth.
brian moses
100 euros, though.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, about 100 euros.
joe rogan
Imagine, what would you do for 100 euros?
Not much.
freddie gibbs
Not a goddamn thing.
brian moses
That's what I'm saying.
freddie gibbs
But, bitch, you do this all day.
You gotta have all you and my customers.
brian moses
But, she's got, I mean, it sounds like she's got a structure.
She's like, yeah, for 100 euros, I'll do this and nothing else.
freddie gibbs
I'm straight.
She wanted to suck my dick with the condom on.
I'm good on that.
Not for 100 euros.
Nah, fuck that.
I would've gave the bitch another 100 euros.
brian moses
For something else, but she was like, nah.
freddie gibbs
I ain't even want that shit.
Head with a condom on.
Just don't give me no head.
I'm straight.
joe rogan
Instagram is right now reviewing its decision and going, I think we fucked up.
I think we jumped the gun.
Let him back on.
freddie gibbs
They need to let me back on.
brian moses
You gotta let the cocaine burn it back on.
joe rogan
I wanna see all the crazy shit that gets sent to him when he puts up online.
brian moses
Man, it's just, I mean, classic shit.
joe rogan
That's the thing about, like, internet connections.
If you know someone who finds fucked up shit, like, that's a valuable dude.
Like a dude who will send you some crazy car accident shit or some lion attack shit.
freddie gibbs
Bro, I'm about to send you some shit.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
I'm sure you are.
I'm sure you are.
But you know what I'm saying?
Those guys are valuable.
Like friends.
freddie gibbs
Look at this baby standing on his pussy.
joe rogan
Oh, don't do that to me.
My word.
freddie gibbs
That's not even real.
joe rogan
Poor baby.
Is that real?
freddie gibbs
That's somebody's neck.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
brian moses
But it looks like, yeah, that baby did.
It looks like a problem.
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
It looks like a problem.
brian moses
What is that?
joe rogan
It looks like I might have to make a phone call.
Which one's this?
freddie gibbs
This fucking real life GTA shit.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
Jesus Christ.
Okay.
Oh, don't.
Listen.
freddie gibbs
Random over.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
brian moses
This is the stuff we were getting, I'm saying.
joe rogan
You were telling me about his Instagram.
brian moses
It's crazy, yeah.
joe rogan
Now, you just put those up with reckless abandon?
brian moses
Yeah.
This is what he was doing.
joe rogan
Don't you think they should have a Wild West Instagram where you can just do whatever you want?
brian moses
Man, he'd be the king.
What was that site called back in the day?
We could show that shit.
Was it Rotten.com?
freddie gibbs
Rotten.com.
joe rogan
Did that make us any worse as human beings?
freddie gibbs
I'm about to make my own app with all that bullshit on it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you were saying that.
What are you going to do?
freddie gibbs
Frister.
Fredster drops.
I'm telling you, man.
Why not?
Fredster's about to drop.
It's going to be the best app, man.
Out there, man.
Guaranteed, man.
We're working on it right now.
Shout out to Lambo.
We're working on Fredster right now, man.
So Fredster's going to have all the bullshit.
You know what I'm saying?
Everything.
brian moses
Oh, my goodness.
joe rogan
Wow.
freddie gibbs
Everything except that booty hole inside out flip-flop shit.
We're not doing that.
brian moses
You ain't doing that one?
freddie gibbs
Nah, we ain't going to post that.
But, you know.
brian moses
But Crackhead's eating ass.
freddie gibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Crackhead's eating ass.
The one Crackhead video with the nigga.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
freddie gibbs
Smoking a crack and blowing it in the other crackhead ass.
brian moses
Crazy.
Crazy.
I've never seen that in my life.
I'm like, I've seen this on Instagram?
joe rogan
My friend John Joseph, he's the lead singer of the Cro-Mags.
He lives in New York City.
He's this ultra-marathon triathlon dude, does Ironmans and shit.
Lives in New York City and he'll send me some shit that he finds.
Either he sees it or someone else sees it in the subways.
Just dudes butt-fucking in the middle of the stairway.
brian moses
Damn!
joe rogan
Just pants down, just banging each other out in the middle of everybody.
freddie gibbs
This is wild.
unidentified
You seen that video of that dude eating a dick ass in the subway?
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw that.
brian moses
In the subway?
freddie gibbs
In the subway.
He was just sitting there posted up with his ass out.
joe rogan
There's a thing that happens.
There's a thing that happens when people don't think they're ever going to get arrested.
brian moses
Wow.
joe rogan
They just get so crazy.
brian moses
I was at the WeHo library playing basketball.
And there's a parking structure next to the library.
And I think it was the second floor.
Yeah, I was going down and just like having a basketball.
I was going around.
And yeah, this is this dude just like in the corner with a homeless dude.
And he was just doing his thing.
And I was just like...
joe rogan
Crazy.
brian moses
Blowing him.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian moses
I mean like crazy blowing him too.
I was like, bro, kids are here.
freddie gibbs
This old ass man eating ass.
brian moses
Oh my goodness.
joe rogan
Look at that, gentlemen.
Wonderful time he's having.
freddie gibbs
Wonderful fucking time.
brian moses
Who took this video?
joe rogan
Someone who loves him dearly.
brian moses
It's a family member.
joe rogan
Gentlemen, it's 5.30 already.
brian moses
Holy shit.
freddie gibbs
It is shit.
brian moses
We really did this.
joe rogan
Yeah, we did the shit out of this.
How long has this been going on?
Four hours and 15 minutes.
brian moses
Wow.
freddie gibbs
Wow.
brian moses
That's the marathon, Joe.
joe rogan
It was fun.
freddie gibbs
The marathon continues.
Rest in peace to Nipsey Hussle, man.
brian moses
Yes.
freddie gibbs
You know what I'm saying?
Rest in peace to Nipsey Hussle and Cicely Tyson.
brian moses
Sicily Tyson.
freddie gibbs
Sicily Tyson.
brian moses
Happy White Guild Month.
joe rogan
Thanks for coming on here, man.
freddie gibbs
Appreciate it.
joe rogan
It was fun talking to you.
It was good hanging with you.
freddie gibbs
This shit is amazing, man.
joe rogan
Getting blasted.
freddie gibbs
I can't believe it, man.
joe rogan
We got blasted.
We talked about a bunch of crazy nonsense.
I want to disavow everything I said up until this moment.
freddie gibbs
We talked about R. Kelly.
joe rogan
Everything.
brian moses
We might have to edit that out.
joe rogan
I don't mean anything good about that.
Or anything else that's bad.
Brian Moses, ladies and gentlemen.
Freddie Gibbs, thank you so much.
brian moses
Appreciate it.
freddie gibbs
No bill.
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