Nov. 20, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! | |
| The Joe Rogan Experience. | ||
| Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. | ||
| Hello, eccentric character known as Tom Green. | ||
| Joe, how are you? | ||
| You're the wild man living in a van now. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You are that eccentric character. | ||
| You go from being a television and movie star to being a wild man traveling the land with your vagabond dog that you got from another country. | ||
| She's a rescue from the Bahamas? | ||
| Yeah, Charlie. | ||
| She's a rescue from the Bahamas. | ||
| She's goddamn adorable, by the way. | ||
| I love her. | ||
| She's beautiful. | ||
| You are this eccentric character now. | ||
| Look at you. | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| I feel like maybe... | ||
| I feel like in some ways what I'm doing right now is the most normal thing I've done in my life, but it is actually kind of crazy too. | ||
| It's crazy compared to people, but I think it fits you like a glove. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, I like going out into the wilderness. | ||
| I always have. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I've been out in this van that I just got, which is amazing, and I'm going... | ||
| Pretty hard with it. | ||
| Is this the first time you've been tested since you got tested the last time on my show? | ||
| I got tested one time between, but that's another interesting story. | ||
| Let's hear it. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Well, my ex-wife asked me to come on her talk show, and I hadn't talked to her in 15 years. | ||
| Drew? | ||
| Drew, yeah. | ||
| Was that a trap? | ||
| It was nice. | ||
| Did you get nervous? | ||
| It was nice. | ||
| It was nice. | ||
| We had a good time. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| But I had to get tested to do the show. | ||
| But it was interesting because, you know, it was a very sort of interesting thing because, you know, we hadn't talked in 15 years. | ||
| At all? | ||
| At all. | ||
| And then, all of a sudden, I got a call from her saying, hey, welcome to the new show. | ||
| And her new show's really pretty wacky. | ||
| She's getting really kind of... | ||
| I like how you put your hands out for wacky. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Wacky. | |
| She's definitely pushing it in a very sort of... | ||
| I mean, I'm enjoying the show. | ||
| It's very funny what she's doing. | ||
| Very over the top, some of the things she does on there. | ||
| That's representative of her as well? | ||
| It reminds me a lot of her. | ||
| Well, I mean, it is her, yeah, for sure. | ||
| What she really is, like who she really is. | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| As you get older, you tend to be able to figure out who you really are better. | ||
| Like with you, like doing this van thing. | ||
| I'm the guy living down by the river in the van. | ||
| It makes sense to me. | ||
| When you told me you were going to do that, I'm going to travel across the country and just drive around the van with my dog. | ||
| I was like, I could see you enjoying that. | ||
| Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, it's a whole world, man. | ||
| It's a whole world that I didn't even know about. | ||
| Like, I didn't know... | ||
| In Canada, it's called Crown Land. | ||
| Here, it's called BLM Land, Bureau of Land, Managed Land. | ||
| I'm sure you know all about that from hunting and going out into the wilderness. | ||
| I didn't really know about Bureau of Land Management Land, and there's certain apps that will show you all the fire roads, all the remote places that you can go and do dispersed camping, go boondocking, they're called... | ||
| Does your van have off-road capabilities? | ||
| Can you drive on rugged trails? | ||
| Yeah, pretty good. | ||
| I got, like, it's not an off-road vehicle. | ||
| It's a Ram Promaster 2500. It's, you know, a delivery truck that they convert into... | ||
| My friend Tim Pool did that. | ||
| I believe he got a Ram as well. | ||
| This was a Ram, wasn't it, Jamie? | ||
| I think it's a Ram as well. | ||
| And he did the same thing. | ||
| He turned it into a bug-out van. | ||
| So the Ram is wider than the Mercedes Sprinter van, which you see a lot of. | ||
| It's wider, so I can actually sleep full width-wise. | ||
| The bed's width-wise at the back. | ||
| But, you know, it just kind of happened pretty... | ||
| Randomly, I saw this clip online of these guys in Arizona who convert the vans. | ||
| I called them up. | ||
| They were on Shark Tank. | ||
| These guys, they're called Boho. | ||
| This van's called Boho. | ||
| They're really cool dudes. | ||
| Boho? | ||
| Yeah, Boho. | ||
| Like B-O-H-O? Yeah, and by the way, they are like, they love that I'm here right now. | ||
| They're your biggest fan. | ||
| They literally have watched every episode of your show, and so they're going to Take a shit right now. | ||
| They're probably really happy that I'm mentioning them on the show. | ||
| They were on Shark Tank. | ||
| These two young guys, they started this company where they bought Ram Promasters. | ||
| Totally independent thing. | ||
| And they do this great carpentry. | ||
| They build out the inside. | ||
| It's all cedar. | ||
| Do you have images of your van online? | ||
| Yeah, that's the inside of the van there. | ||
| Oh, I like the wood. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And see, I got my speakers set up. | ||
| And the thing that's kind of like, Cool about this in the Mojave Desert. | ||
| There's Charlie chilling. | ||
| Look at her. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| So when you say you have your studio, so you're doing your podcast from the road. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And how are you doing it? | ||
| Like whenever you feel like it, you just fire up the podcast when you've got something to say and... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Dude, that thing looks killer in there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| See? | ||
| Oh, you got a little kitchenette set up and how you cooking? | ||
| There's a vent. | ||
| Oh, you got an awning? | ||
| And I'm shooting these drone shots too, which are pretty fun. | ||
| Dude, you're rolling drones? | ||
| Look at this! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| This is the Mojave. | ||
| Check out all those Joshua trees burned. | ||
| Those are burned Joshua trees. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| So, you know, it's kind of like, you know, I've always been into the techie kind of building out studio stuff, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| When I found out about these vans, the thing that really kind of piqued my interest is the battery and solar technology that exists now. | ||
| So there's two solar panels on the roof, and in the back I've got these batteries. | ||
| They're called battle-borne batteries. | ||
| They're really solid. | ||
| They use them in sailboats to go around the world, basically. | ||
| And there's four of them. | ||
| And the solar panels are charging them constantly. | ||
| So I've built... | ||
| I've got my computers. | ||
| I've got my cameras. | ||
| I've got my drone. | ||
| I'm charging batteries all the time. | ||
| I've got a refrigerator in there so I can have, you know, cold beer, right? | ||
| And it's sweet. | ||
| So I can go out into the middle of nowhere and have virtually unlimited electronic capability and just stay there as long as I want until I run out of food. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And so those solar panels, how efficient are they? | ||
| Like, will they power your studio and all that stuff where you don't have to use your engine? | ||
| You don't have to start up and use gas? | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| Are you running diesel in your van? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, but that just happened to be... | ||
| The way it went because that van was available and I got that one. | ||
| But how's the gas mileage? | ||
| It's pretty good. | ||
| I'll tell you one thing though. | ||
| I am always filling up. | ||
| I never let it go below three quarters of a tank. | ||
| Just in case shit gets weird. | ||
| I never know where I'm going every day. | ||
| I got weird stories over the last six weeks where I've just been like, Not sure where I'm going to sleep, and the sun's going down, and then I end up going down a crazy road. | ||
| And then the first night I got stuck in the Mojave Desert because I looked up on this app, Dispersed Fire Road. | ||
| I'm thinking, oh, that's pretty cool. | ||
| I get there. | ||
| There's a sign that says tortoises crossing. | ||
| Careful. | ||
| I start driving out into the desert. | ||
| I'm 200 yards in. | ||
| I get stuck. | ||
| Because it's the soft sand, gets stuck in the soft sand. | ||
| So I've been a little more careful, but... | ||
| How do you get out when you get stuck in the soft sand? | ||
| Called AAA. Oh. | ||
| AAA comes in the desert? | ||
| I was 100 yards from the freeway. | ||
| It was like I hadn't even gotten into it yet. | ||
| It was so pathetic. | ||
| It was hilarious, actually. | ||
| Because I've been planning for months, you know? | ||
| And then all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm seeing the, you know, the free... | ||
| So, can I... Before we get into your adventure, I want to get more into this van build. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, you started it out with just buying this van. | ||
| Is it a new van? | ||
| Brand new, yeah. | ||
| So you bought a brand new van, and then you bring it to these boho guys, and these guys, what do they do? | ||
| They ask you, what are you planning on doing? | ||
| You plan on using this as a studio? | ||
| Like, your idea from the jump was to do your podcast on the road with no plans other than your own whims, right? | ||
| So when you do something like that, how do you know what you're going to need? | ||
| You didn't really have any experience in off-roading or that kind of living out of a van. | ||
| How did you know what you're going to need? | ||
| Did you research it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, well, there's a couple of categories of research. | ||
| One was just building the studio itself. | ||
| So I built the studio at home first. | ||
| That was just the nitty-gritty technical stuff, what kind of microphones, what kind of... | ||
| Amps and preamps I'm going to use. | ||
| I have some amps that use tubes. | ||
| I got rid of those because I figured the tubes would rattle out in the dirt road. | ||
| Boring techy stuff. | ||
| But as far as the survival and the food and all of that and the van... | ||
| They've been real great. | ||
| I built my studio equipment into a road case, and I thought, well, that could fit under the bed, and then we sort of planned it out where there's a little door that opens, and you can access it under the bed, and we've wired all the cables through the walls, and it's pretty efficient. | ||
| So you get everything you need to do a podcast down into one box. | ||
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Right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So you just pull that box out, and then you're ready to roll. | ||
| It's actually permanently housed under the bed, so I have a table that pulls out. | ||
| That table I was sitting at there, just under there. | ||
| A little door opens. | ||
| Microphones plugged in and away you go. | ||
| But the other side of it is like a lot of the video stuff too, like the drone, the cameras. | ||
| Like I've got some new cameras that I'm kind of messing with that are exciting to me. | ||
| And so I'm kind of out there. | ||
| The thing that I was thinking, I was thinking, am I going to get bored out here? | ||
| Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you. | ||
| I'm all alone. | ||
| Or lonely. | ||
| Am I going to get bored or lonely? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I haven't, because I've populated the van with stuff to do. | ||
| So when I get bored of the drone, then I'm making music, too. | ||
| So I've made a... | ||
| It's a recording music studio, too. | ||
| What kind of music? | ||
| Well, I'm doing some sort of different stuff. | ||
| I've got my acoustic guitar, so I'm going to start doing some country rap type of stuff. | ||
| Are you going to go on tour? | ||
| Country rap. | ||
| I call it crap, Joe. | ||
| It's country rap. | ||
| Are you going to go on tour? | ||
| Maybe, maybe, yeah. | ||
| As a singer? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, I could see that. | ||
| No, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I'll probably maybe incorporate it into my stand-up or something like that. | ||
| You know, I was a rapper when I was a teenager. | ||
| Yeah, I remember. | ||
| So to get back to this build-out. | ||
| So you get it where you're ready. | ||
| You still have your house in LA, right? | ||
| And then you decide, all right, let's do it. | ||
| You start the car up and you go. | ||
| Where did you go? | ||
| I drove out into the Mojave Desert. | ||
| That's the first place. | ||
| The destination was Utah, and so I started by going out to the Mojave Desert. | ||
| And what time of the year was this? | ||
| This was, I guess, six or seven weeks ago, I guess. | ||
| I've been on the road ever since. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It was great, man. | ||
| Just eating out of your van? | ||
| Yeah, so that was part of planning the food. | ||
| So I've got these big Rubbermaid containers in the trunk, four of them. | ||
| Do you have a refrigerator? | ||
| I have a refrigerator, yep. | ||
| Is that solar powered as well? | ||
| It runs off the electric system, so the solar is charging the batteries, and the batteries run the electric for the whole van. | ||
| All the lights are LED, so it's very effective, efficient, and the fridge is also high-efficiency cooler, essentially. | ||
| So is it like one of those roll-out coolers that people have? | ||
| It's under one of the seats. | ||
| It's called a Dometic. | ||
| Because there's a lot of guys who do... | ||
| They don't call it off-roading. | ||
| What do they call it when they go out into the wilderness? | ||
| Boondocking. | ||
| I don't think they call it that either. | ||
| That's the van life term for what people are doing with these vans now. | ||
| Where they go off-grid and... | ||
| Boondocking is, I think it's a Filipino word from the U.S. military brought that word. | ||
| There's a lot of people that plan, they get a kick out of meticulously planning like a 500 mile venture through the off-road, through the wilderness with these like off-road, I forget why they call it trekking, god damn it. | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah. | ||
| I got into it for a while. | ||
| I went down a rabbit hole. | ||
| There's tons of videos on YouTube of these guys. | ||
| Overlanding, sorry. | ||
| That's what they call it. | ||
| Overlanding. | ||
| So I'm not going, you know, I don't have extra fuel. | ||
| So I've got my tank of fuel. | ||
| So I usually, when I get off the main highway, I make sure I've got full tank. | ||
| And I've never, I've gotten close to running out of fuel. | ||
| Have you thought now that you've had this thing for six weeks, you've been doing it for six weeks to make revisions? | ||
| Like maybe have some exterior fuel canisters, maybe put an extended range gas tank in. | ||
| You thinking about all these things? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love these questions. | ||
| Yeah, overlanders do all that stuff. | ||
| So there's like, yeah, definitely. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| You know, the thing is, is this van is... | ||
| Yeah, I could. | ||
| I mean, look, I'm amazed how remote... | ||
| You can go. | ||
| And this is what I kind of talk about on my social media and some of the videos I make on YouTube. | ||
| I'm sometimes sort of telling people like, hey, you know, if you're like sitting around at home right now and you're bored and you're angry about shit, you can just get in your car and drive out to these beautiful places. | ||
| You know, the last week, I was on the top of a mountain in the Lincoln National Forest, right on the border of New Mexico and Texas. | ||
| And, I mean, there's drone shots where there's nobody for, like, seems like 100 miles. | ||
| I drove for an hour up this two-lane paved highway and didn't see a car the entire time driving there. | ||
| And then you get up there and you find... | ||
| A place to camp. | ||
| Hunters are up there, so there's lots of dispersed spots with fire pits. | ||
| You're up there all by yourself, and you get up in the morning, and I make coffee with this gas-powered kettle, so I'm not eating my battery. | ||
| I've got all these propane tanks. | ||
| I've got a Coleman stove. | ||
| I'm cooking with my Coleman stove. | ||
| I got lots of cans of beans. | ||
| I'm eating a lot of Spam. | ||
| And ragu. | ||
| I remember you gave me some shit about the ragu last time. | ||
| It was pretty good, the ragu. | ||
| I don't think I gave you shit. | ||
| I was just kind of joking around with you. | ||
| Yeah, but like, you know, I'm eating a lot of canned food. | ||
| Because part of what happened was this started from... | ||
| The whole quarantining, right? | ||
| I got all this canned food for the house, and I was just cooking for myself, and then I thought, you know, I could just take this out, take this on the road. | ||
| So you're spending a lot of time with no people. | ||
| Like, did it feel weird coming here? | ||
| Like, there's all the people, security people here, and Jamie, and Jeff, and me. | ||
| Did it feel weird? | ||
| Like, all these people? | ||
| What does it feel like? | ||
| You know, it's interesting because... | ||
| You start to feel a little bit, and I think this is probably something that maybe is affecting everybody with the quarantining and the pandemic and all that stuff. | ||
| Maybe not, maybe, certainly not everyone's in their van, but you start to get to the point where you think, maybe I didn't get social anxiety coming here because, like, I know you guys are getting all tested and all that stuff, but I have a little bit... | ||
| You know I have a little bit more paranoia about getting this virus than the average person. | ||
| Because of cancer? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| So, you know, because I just don't... | ||
| It's not even that I feel like I'm more susceptible to it. | ||
| It's just I really hate being sick. | ||
| When I had cancer, I was in the hospital for six weeks. | ||
| It was, like, painful. | ||
| I just hate it. | ||
| I hate that loss of control, you know? | ||
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So... | |
| But, no, I mean... | ||
| Are you taking care of yourself, like, vitamin-wise? | ||
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Are you taking supplements? | |
| I think I'm eating pretty healthy. | ||
| With your spam and ragu? | ||
| But, I mean, like, there's a lot of vitamins in that. | ||
| Slow down. | ||
| There's a lot of vitamins in that stuff. | ||
| No. | ||
| Look, I'm exercising. | ||
| I'm doing a lot of walks. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| I'm going deep into these woods. | ||
| Are you getting any fresh vegetables at all? | ||
| I have canned corn. | ||
| I have a large quantity of canned corn. | ||
| Corn is barely a vegetable. | ||
| I was told corn, rice, and beans is enough for subsistence. | ||
| Yeah, you can stay alive. | ||
| Your heart will stay beating. | ||
| I'm just trying to stay alive. | ||
| No, I want you to take care of yourself like vitamins and nutrients. | ||
| Corn is very little of that. | ||
| I have onions. | ||
| That's not good either. | ||
| They last a long time. | ||
| And potatoes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, there's a little bit of potatoes. | ||
| And potatoes. | ||
| You kind of live off of potatoes. | ||
| They last a long time. | ||
| I have, I mean, full disclosure, just to be clear, I have done a few, you know, curbside pickup at Walmart and I've got oranges. | ||
| So I've got oranges. | ||
| Oh, so you won't go inside? | ||
| Yeah, not really trying not to go inside. | ||
| I have gone inside a couple of times, admittedly. | ||
| You're nervous about going inside of Walmart? | ||
| I did do it once, yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Because it was late and I was quite hungry. | ||
| But you're hardcore with this fear of the virus. | ||
| I'm not sure how... | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
| I am sure that I am. | ||
| But I also am enjoying... | ||
| Not enjoying. | ||
| That's the wrong word. | ||
| I am just trying to see if I can do it, too. | ||
| I'm trying to see if I can do it. | ||
| Is it possible to go remote, off the grid, and just sort of be disconnected from the... | ||
| The luxuries that we're used to having in life of being able to go to a Walmart and grab any food you want. | ||
| I think I'll have some sushi. | ||
| I think I'll grab a plate of fresh cut steak. | ||
| It's kind of interesting to go out into these places that are incredibly remote and beautiful and to cook on an open flame. | ||
| I brought a fishing rod. | ||
| I haven't caught anything yet. | ||
| Have you done any fishing? | ||
| I did a little bit, but I honestly haven't had a lot of time. | ||
| How are you getting your licenses? | ||
| Online, online. | ||
| Online, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I also, I did bring a shotgun as well. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| For protection or for birds? | ||
| Well, I have, I've been hunting, but I have not actually seen an animal yet. | ||
| No animals at all? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Are you bringing your dog? | ||
| That might be a part of the problem. | ||
| No, I don't bring the dog, actually. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| So when you say you go hunting, what are you hunting for? | ||
| Well, in my mind, it would be for birds. | ||
| I have a bird gun. | ||
| What gauge? | ||
| It's a 12-gauge Benelli. | ||
| That's a big gun for birds. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I guess I got... | ||
| Yeah, I guess so. | ||
| It's a Benelli... | ||
| For ducks, I guess. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't even know what I'm doing, Joe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But what birds are you targeting? | ||
| Well, I'm not really, honestly... | ||
| I honestly have it just because I feel like when I'm going in bear country, and when I go walking deep into the woods, I kind of feel a little nervous. | ||
| So I've got my bear spray. | ||
| I've got my, you know, hunting knife. | ||
| I've got my hands. | ||
| You ready to rock? | ||
| I'm ready to rock. | ||
| But I honestly just like to walk in the woods, and I like to go deep out into the woods, and I bring a compass with me, and I go way out. | ||
| I have the system to not get lost. | ||
| A system? | ||
| I have a system, yeah. | ||
| What's the system? | ||
| Well, basically, so like last week I was up on this mountaintop in the Lincoln National Forest and so there was a sort of a long, straight, I'd call it like a ravine or something. | ||
| So I just walked straight along that ravine. | ||
| I knew that would lead back to the van. | ||
| And I followed that until I, probably a mile or so, until I hit a landmark that went that way. | ||
| It was a sort of a limestone ledge that went straight. | ||
| So I don't go so far that I'm going in circles, right? | ||
| Keeping very good track on those landmarks and I just know that okay, I walked a mile down to this ravine and this ravine to this limestone ledge, now I'll walk a mile that way. | ||
| Do you find yourself way more aware of where you are because you have to be responsible for yourself and because you are alone, off-grid, different than you would be that if you were with a bunch of friends wandering around you probably wouldn't be paying that much attention? | ||
| I love it. | ||
| It's my favorite thing. | ||
| You know, I really do love it. | ||
| You know, we talked about it before, you know, how I used to go on canoe trips in Canada when I was a kid. | ||
| And just, you know, this is the first time I've ever done it alone, alone. | ||
| I've never done camping alone before. | ||
| Who goes camping alone? | ||
| But, you know, there's something even really extra special about it. | ||
| Yeah, I have a lot of friends who really enjoy it. | ||
| And to clarify, I do bring the dog with me on a lot of these walks when I have the shotgun, but I have no intention of firing the gun because I don't want to hurt her ears, right? | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| But if I ever went with the intention of possibly firing the gun, then I leave her in the van. | ||
| You have to worry about coyotes with her, huh? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| This happened a couple nights ago. | ||
| It was really kind of interesting. | ||
| Dogs are so smart. | ||
| We should let everybody know. | ||
| She's a little doggy, but she's adorable. | ||
| So the other night... | ||
| Say hi, Chopper. | ||
| Hi, sweetie. | ||
| She was sleeping, you could tell. | ||
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She's like, Dad, I was just sleeping. | |
| What are you doing? | ||
| The other night, we were surrounded by them. | ||
| Multiple times we've been surrounded by them in the van at night. | ||
| So it was sort of late at night, and I had a campfire going, and we just heard, like, you know, I don't know, more than I've ever heard, actually. | ||
| There must have been, like, 30 or something out there. | ||
| And they were howling, and for a moment, she barked, and then I said, Quiet. | ||
| And then she sort of realized, I could see her realize, because she barks at everything. | ||
| There's a video I've put up on my YouTube, which is pretty funny, because, you know, we saw some, we saw a javelina, you know, a wild boar. | ||
| Oh, they'll kill your dog too, man. | ||
| Yeah, we were in the van, so we were driving down this road, this was in New Mexico, and I'm getting my camera to get this shot of this, you know, wild boar. | ||
| A javelina is not really a pig. | ||
| It looks like a pig, but it's not. | ||
| It's a peccary. | ||
| It's a different kind of animal. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think it wasn't a wild boar. | ||
| It was a javelina. | ||
| Yeah, I think it was, yeah. | ||
| I'd never seen one before. | ||
| Where was this? | ||
| New Mexico. | ||
| Yeah, they have one thing. | ||
| In the Gila National Forest. | ||
| Gila. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| She's so cute. | ||
| So she starts barking at it. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Yeah, there it is. | ||
| Oh, you got video footage of it. | ||
| Oh yeah, that's definitely a javelina. | ||
| You'll see, and she starts barking, and then it runs off. | ||
| They're vicious little fuckers. | ||
| They killed Stan Hope's neighbor's dog. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, there it goes. | ||
| It's interesting that it's by itself. | ||
| Yeah, so actually later, just up the road, we drove by a river. | ||
| Look at her. | ||
| She barks and then she yawns. | ||
| She's so well taken care of. | ||
| She's not worried. | ||
| Good job pulling that video up, Jamie. | ||
| That's pretty impressive. | ||
| Wow, look how beautiful that is. | ||
| Yeah, so that next shot there. | ||
| God, look at the landscape. | ||
| So this is the deer. | ||
| She scares the deer away here. | ||
| And that is just outside of Las Cruces, New Mexico. | ||
| You've got a few deer out there. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot out there. | ||
| That's not actually my good lens. | ||
| That's in New Mexico, huh? | ||
| That's in New Mexico, yeah. | ||
| And she's barking at the deer? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| When was this? | ||
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How long ago? | |
| This was, I don't know, a week ago. | ||
| They might be in season, son. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| When I'm out for my walk, I've got my hunter orange on. | ||
| Do you have a license to shoot deer? | ||
| Do you have a tag? | ||
| I don't, no. | ||
| I just have a small game license for New Mexico. | ||
| If you've got a deer, do you know what to do with it? | ||
| Well, I have no intention of shooting a deer because I'm by myself. | ||
| I mean, what am I going to do with it? | ||
| Well, you don't have enough refrigeration. | ||
| But I do have Steve Rinelli's book on small game preparation. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
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Oh, that's awesome. | |
| And I loved your episode of that, by the way. | ||
| I just did one with him a couple of days ago. | ||
| A new one? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How long ago was that? | ||
| Five days ago? | ||
| Five episodes ago? | ||
| A week? | ||
| Yeah, he's awesome. | ||
| I particularly liked the... | ||
| Look at that little face. | ||
| Look at her. | ||
| She's so cute. | ||
| First thing she did to me is bite me. | ||
| She can run up to me, wagging her tail, and bit my fingers. | ||
| She just wants to play. | ||
| She's still teething a little bit. | ||
| How old is she? | ||
| She's probably six and a half months. | ||
| She's so cute. | ||
| She's so playful, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Full disclosure though, I've never really hunted before. | ||
| I'm not a hunter. | ||
| I've never hunted before. | ||
| A lot of fishing. | ||
| Grew up fishing. | ||
| Did a ton of that. | ||
| But I do like... | ||
| There's something about being all alone in the middle of nowhere at night surrounded by coyotes that I'd be lying if I say it wasn't a little bit scary. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's a little bit scary. | ||
| There's something about those alone trips that people say you do sort of an inventory of your life and start assessing your behavior and who you are. | ||
| And you're alone for so long that you're forced to sort of think about what you've done and are you happy with your choices in life? | ||
| Are you happy with your job? | ||
| Are you happy with your relationships? | ||
| Is that what you're experiencing too? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| My friend Aaron Snyder, he's been on the podcast before, he owns Kofaru. | ||
| It's a big backpack company. | ||
| They make like really super high-end hunting backpacks and he spends hundreds of days a year in the woods by himself. | ||
| Either by himself or with other people hunting, and he goes on these long, backpacking, solo adventures hunting, where he goes deep into the woods, many, many, many miles in by himself, with just his camp on his back. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And that's the thing that he's always said, is that you get in there, and then once you get back to civilization, you want to call ex-girlfriends and apologize, or call friends and mend fences, and just sort of give you an inventory of what you've been... | ||
| I think sometimes we get caught up in momentum in life, you know, that life is a series of things that you have to do. | ||
| You wake up in the morning, you have to be at work at a certain time, you try to get to the gym, you try to get this, and then you have phone calls you have to make, and then you have to, you know, sync your calendar with the other people you're working with, and then there's this and that, and then you're planning for... | ||
| In two weeks we have that meeting and this and that. | ||
| And you get so caught up in momentum. | ||
| You never stop to take a breath and look at yourself and look at what you're doing and go, is this what I like? | ||
| Is this what I want to do? | ||
| Or is this something that I'm just... | ||
| Am I on this sled that's flying down the side of this snow-covered mountain and I don't know exactly how I'm going to get off of it? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And you made me think of something. | ||
| A lot of the places I've been, no cell service. | ||
| And so it's three days and like maybe text will fire out, but there's no video. | ||
| There's no... | ||
| No reading YouTube comments. | ||
| No reading YouTube comments. | ||
| How nice is that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's been a few days where I'll get the cell service. | ||
| And then immediately check the YouTube comments. | ||
| And then I'm on it more than... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know. | ||
| We've talked about this before. | ||
| I want to try to adopt that. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| You said post and ghost? | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Post and ghost. | ||
| I want to try to adopt that because I have sort of gone the opposite approach. | ||
| I'm like kind of interacting very much with those comments. | ||
| I'm sure the fans like that. | ||
| The nice fans. | ||
| I find it kind of a fun creative exercise. | ||
| Like sometimes I'll have... | ||
| You know a hater or whatever and then I'll get into a little thing with him and it's fun but for the most part I've created kind of a very positive thing but but like what's fun is just getting away from it from the phone but like what you said is exactly what it's been like going through that I just love it out there and and and what have you learned about yourself? | ||
| Definitely that I've been on my phone too much but I think I think one thing that I've learned is that it that I I actually do Pretty well being alone, actually. | ||
| I was worried that maybe I would not be able to... | ||
| Like, I thought... | ||
| One of the things I was thinking when I started this whole process of planning... | ||
| It was planned for several months, getting the van, getting all the stuff ready. | ||
| I thought, what if I get out there and I can't stand it? | ||
| What if I go two days in? | ||
| But I got to go home. | ||
| I need my shower and my bed. | ||
| But I actually... | ||
| After a couple of days, I just start to really kind of get very relaxed, and you start to kind of feel a nice connection with nature, I guess. | ||
| I'm going to bed at... | ||
| 8 at night, 9 at night, waking up at 5.30 in the morning, you know, making my coffee as the sun is rising over a mountain, and so I'm watching the sun rise, and it's cold. | ||
| It's cold in the morning up there, man. | ||
| So especially when I was up in northern Utah, like, cold. | ||
| But there's a whole system to keeping the van warm and stuff, too. | ||
| But so... | ||
| I had a system to keeping the van warm. | ||
| Well, so the first few weeks I didn't have this proper insulation on the windows, so I ordered this stuff that's for the van windows. | ||
| Do you glue it to the windows or something? | ||
| Magnets. | ||
| There's these magnets. | ||
| You just take it off. | ||
| It's a nice thick sort of a padding. | ||
| So you heat up the van inside and then you put that up and it keeps the temperature? | ||
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I put it on first. | |
| I just put it on. | ||
| I put it on. | ||
| It covers the windshield, the two front passenger, all windows. | ||
| They're completely sealed. | ||
| And then I start the engine and I run it. | ||
| I don't run the gas out, but I run it for 10 minutes. | ||
| The thing heats up. | ||
| And then I just don't open the door. | ||
| I do that right when it's time to kind of crash. | ||
| How long does it keep it warm for? | ||
| You know, it's warm until I fall asleep and then I wake up in the morning freezing my butt off. | ||
| But no, it's not too bad. | ||
| I mean, I don't think this would be something that you would want to go out in the winter in. | ||
| But, you know, this time of year, and down here in Texas, it was nice the last few days. | ||
| It's been nice. | ||
| There's a guy who's got a video. | ||
| He's living out of his van, too, doing the same sort of situation. | ||
| He's very organized, got the whole deal. | ||
| But he's doing it in Colorado. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's in the middle of the winter, like, covered in snow and does all these detailed things, like how he gets out of snow, what he does, and how he stays warm. | ||
| Yeah, I imagine it would be a lot less... | ||
| Simple up in that kind of temperature. | ||
| Well, just camping in cold weather is rough. | ||
| You have to have the right insulated sleeping bag. | ||
| You have to make sure that you have... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Down booties. | ||
| Down booties. | ||
| That's my new discovery. | ||
| On the internet, right? | ||
| This is what's hilarious about the world we're living in now with the internet and everything, having access to everything. | ||
| Before I left, I start researching, oh, here's a guy talking about winter camping. | ||
| Down booties, right? | ||
| There's these little feathery down things. | ||
| You put them on your bare feet at night, and you wear them in your sleeping bag, and your feet are warm, right? | ||
| If your feet are warm. | ||
| So I start, like, sort of seeing all these little things that, oh, that'll help, you know, these little products, and you... | ||
| Go on Amazon, shows up at your house the next day. | ||
| Your supplies start building up, you know? | ||
| But yeah, I have these down booties and, you know, I've got nice, you know, merino wool undergarments and things like this. | ||
| And I think I'm... | ||
| Is it merino wool? | ||
| It's hunting stuff, you know? | ||
| Merino wool is great because when you get wet, it doesn't make you cold. | ||
| If you get wet in cotton and then you get cold, you're in trouble. | ||
| The issue is if you're going somewhere and you're hiking and it's cold out. | ||
| Well, even though it's cold out, if you're hiking and you're wearing a lot of layers, you're going to sweat. | ||
| But if you sweat and you're wearing cotton, you're in big trouble. | ||
| Because as soon as you cool off, that wet cotton freezes. | ||
| It feels terrible. | ||
| But wool is different. | ||
| Wet wool keeps you warm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can be in wool, and it gets wet, and it's wet still. | ||
| It's not the most comfortable thing, but you're warm. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I guess because it's like an animal fiber. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's been relatively comfortable. | ||
| There's been a few nights where I've been a little colder than I would have liked to have been. | ||
| And a lot of the places I've been right now, it's no fires because of the dry. | ||
| But the last week I was in a place I could have a fire, so I keep a nice campfire going. | ||
| Were you in Utah? | ||
| Where were you? | ||
| That was up in the Gila National Forest. | ||
| No, that was the Lincoln National Forest. | ||
| So you went to New Mexico and then you drove your way up to Austin. | ||
| Well, one of the most beautiful places I went, by the way, was in Utah. | ||
| I went to this place called the Valley of the Gods on the Navajo reservation there. | ||
| Oh, my gosh. | ||
| There's a video of that. | ||
| I don't know if you have a video of that drone shot. | ||
| They shot all the John Wayne movies out there in Monument Valley, and then just down the road is this place called the Valley of the Gods. | ||
| Look at this place. | ||
| All alone right there. | ||
| That's you. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| That's your drone footage. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And, you know, a big part of this for me is also looking for places that are going to photograph well, you know, because I enjoy photography and video. | ||
| Do you have all this stuff on TomGreen.com? | ||
| Is this on your YouTube channel? | ||
| I put it on my YouTube channel, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then I link it to my website. | ||
| Yeah, it's on TomGreen.com too, yeah. | ||
| So I get these shots. | ||
| You see Charlie chilling out there. | ||
| Charlie is intrigued by the drone. | ||
| The first 10 times I've flown it, she just sort of... | ||
| See, she's going under the van because she hears the drone coming. | ||
| Did you call her Chopper and Charlie? | ||
| No, I must have just... | ||
| No, Charlie, yeah. | ||
| Did someone call her Chopper? | ||
| Did I just call her Chopper? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe, yeah. | ||
| That's your new nickname. | ||
| That's your new middle name. | ||
| Charlie Chopper. | ||
| Why did I call her Chopper? | ||
| Did someone else call her Chopper outside? | ||
| Yeah, Charlie, Charlie, yeah. | ||
| Named after Travels with Charlie, the John Steinbeck novel, Travels with Charlie. | ||
| And if you see on the van, see at the back, you can't read it, but there's a blurry word right above the rear wheel. | ||
| It's Rossinante, which is what, yeah, right there, which was Steinbeck called his van, Rossinante, which is named after Don Quixote's horse. | ||
| So there's multiple layers of homages there. | ||
| But look at that shot. | ||
| Isn't that amazing? | ||
| It is amazing. | ||
| I love your shirt, too. | ||
| That's a very lumberjack-y shirt you're wearing in there. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's warm. | ||
| It's warm. | ||
| The last shot of this video, I don't know if you can just scroll that ahead. | ||
| God, that's so pretty. | ||
| The last shot of this video, I waited for sunset. | ||
| Oh, here's how I take a shower. | ||
| So you can just go out there and camp anywhere you want. | ||
| Just pull over and camp. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, do you have any concern about running into serial killers? | ||
| Well, that's why I got the shotgun Joe, but, you know. | ||
| You look like a serial killer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You look like, if I was going through there with my family, and you were like, hello, and you're just waving, I'd be like, oh, fuck. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, they don't want to mess with me. | ||
| Who's this crazy guy? | ||
| They don't want to mess with me. | ||
| Look at the last shot right after this, though. | ||
| There's this sunset. | ||
| Look at those buttes in the background. | ||
| See that? | ||
| The shot after this one. | ||
| Just let it roll. | ||
| You'll see. | ||
| Just let it roll. | ||
| You'll see. | ||
| But I kind of like to wait for the sun to get these nice shots. | ||
| So this is the shot here. | ||
| Watch this drone shot. | ||
| It's pretty cool. | ||
| And to kind of get these interesting images, you'll see the sun will go... | ||
| Now, what do you strap on the drone? | ||
| Is it built in with cameras? | ||
| It's got a camera on it. | ||
| So this is just not even super... | ||
| Look, watch the sun disappear. | ||
| And then the music that's playing is music that I made in the van. | ||
| It's a score. | ||
| You can play the audio if you want. | ||
| It's my music. | ||
| But it's a score. | ||
| I'm doing this sort of ambient score. | ||
| What kind of drugs are you getting? | ||
| You know, nothing too crazy. | ||
| So I see the sun pops up. | ||
| This is like ocean music. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| This is like music that I expect to hear about, like a documentary on whales. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's kind of a Brian Eno influence type of vibe. | ||
| Are you doing a video whenever you feel like it? | ||
| Are you doing them on a schedule? | ||
| I kind of just am always shooting stuff and then I'll edit and sometimes I'll... | ||
| The first month I didn't post as much because honestly I was just trying to figure out how to survive out there. | ||
| And now I've got a good system. | ||
| So I think the videos are going to start coming a little more fast and furious now. | ||
| Was there a moment where you were like, what the fuck am I doing? | ||
| I need to go back to LA. Every day. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| Every single day I get up and say that. | ||
| For real. | ||
| And I'm not even exaggerating. | ||
| Every day I get up and go, what the fuck am I doing? | ||
| But you keep going. | ||
| Yeah, because I have some things on the agenda that I want to accomplish in the next month in Texas when I leave here. | ||
| First of all, I don't know where I'm sleeping tonight. | ||
| I don't know where I'm going tonight. | ||
| But I have a few little interesting tricks for that, too. | ||
| But if I ever get stuck in a bind where I've been driving and I haven't found a nice place like that, I'll go to just a straight-up truck stop. | ||
| And I'll wedge in between a bunch of 18-wheelers, crash, get up in the morning, and start finding my destination. | ||
| What I've been finding is I get on this sort of pattern where I'll go... | ||
| A couple of days where I don't find a place like that. | ||
| But every three or four days I'll find a place kind of at that level of beauty. | ||
| And then once I'm there, I'll stay there for four or five days and just really get into it. | ||
| I'll shoot a lot of video. | ||
| I'll edit and I'll create some music and I'll create some things. | ||
| And then when I get back to cell service, I'll post and then I go look for the next spot. | ||
| My agenda when I leave here today is I want to go around Texas and go find some ghost towns. | ||
| Ghost towns? | ||
| Lots of ghost towns in Texas. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Apparently there's 500 of them. | ||
| 500 ghost towns? | ||
| Back in the silver mining and gold mining days when they built the railroads, first of all, the silver would dry up, the town would dry up. | ||
| So there's these towns that are just You know, dilapidated, broken-down towns in the middle of the... | ||
| Didn't Kim Basinger buy one of those? | ||
| She did, yeah. | ||
| She did, right? | ||
| In Georgia, right? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| She must have been losing her marbles. | ||
| Why would she buy a ghost town? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| But, you know, there's a real sort of beauty to it because... | ||
| So there's two things I've been doing that I found I really enjoy. | ||
| And they're new things, so I can't speak to them like with total detail. | ||
| But, you know, next time I talk to you, I'm going to have a lot more information about this. | ||
| The other thing is native ruins. | ||
| There is an unbelievable amount of Native American ruins out there in the desert of New Mexico. | ||
| The reason I was in the Gila National Forest, I went to the cliff dwellings that were built by... | ||
| The Anastasi? | ||
| The Anastasia is in Colorado, but it looks just like that. | ||
| Same kind of thing? | ||
| It's exactly like that. | ||
| Are they the Navajo, then? | ||
| The Magolan Indians, they were called. | ||
| In 1280, they built this. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| And so, that video, there's a clip of that. | ||
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1280? | |
| Yeah, there's a clip of that in the Arizona one. | ||
| There's a clip of that. | ||
| And these are, first of all, very remote. | ||
| That was right actually where we saw the javelina. | ||
| It was right after I went there. | ||
| There are 50 rooms in this thing, built out of stone, up on a cliff. | ||
| They've created it, but it was built in 1280. And then not discovered by... | ||
| The park ranger told me this last week. | ||
| Yeah, right here. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's just sitting there. | ||
| Not discovered until when? | ||
| Not discovered until 1874. Holy shit. | ||
| Right? | ||
| 1874. And so they discovered this... | ||
| And it wasn't until a few years later that Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, made it a national monument. | ||
| So in the period between 1874 and I think 1907, it got looted a bit. | ||
| When they found it, it was full of pottery, it was full of all this artifacts and stuff. | ||
| That got looted, that's gone. | ||
| But there's some things in there that were really interesting that they did discover, like they discovered a macaw feather. | ||
| This is a pretty beautiful place. | ||
| This is wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this is all drone footage, right? | ||
| No, this is me shooting with my handheld camera. | ||
| So you're allowed to walk around up there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they have a nice... | ||
| It's really set up nice. | ||
| You drive in on a nice paved road and then there's a National Park... | ||
| State Park or National Park? | ||
| It's the Gila National Forest facility there. | ||
| National Park facility, I believe. | ||
| And there's some rangers there and some people with knowledge of the history. | ||
| And then they have a nice maintained path that walks up. | ||
| Were there people up there looking at it with you? | ||
| There was, on that day, I saw the sun was kind of going down there and there were two other people. | ||
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That's it. | |
| And they walked up ahead. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| National Monument, yeah. | ||
| Gila cliff drawings. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In the Gila Wilderness. | ||
| The Gila Wilderness is where they have some of the best elk hunting in the world. | ||
| Yeah, there was a lot of hunters out, and I saw some elk. | ||
| Did you hear them screaming? | ||
| I did not, but they were... | ||
| The thing that I noticed about the elk, which just the one time I saw them, was they were... | ||
| I was driving, so I was driving a... | ||
| I'm not taking any interstates. | ||
| I never take an interstate. | ||
| All the way from LA, the whole way to here. | ||
| I maybe was on the 10 for like maybe a couple of miles just to get from one highway to another. | ||
| So you take the smaller highways and then you see like these towns, these places that You know, went away when the railway was built somewhere else, or when they put the interstate somewhere else, the town dried up, and then there's these towns that are just kind of half alive and fledgling towns, and there's some real beauty there to it, right? | ||
| So, you know, from a photography standpoint, you know, like there's a lot of nice architecture and things that is just really interesting. | ||
| So you consciously made a decision in the beginning of this journey to not take any interstates? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I want to go find these places that are off the beaten track and photograph them, really. | ||
| But so I was coming around a corner and there was a herd of elk. | ||
| And They were sort of in the distance and they were running, like playing with each other. | ||
| Have you ever seen that? | ||
| One was running and then they were running around. | ||
| How long ago was this? | ||
| How long ago was this? | ||
| Oh, like seven days ago or something? | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| So it wouldn't be the rut. | ||
| The rut is in September. | ||
| Yeah, they were running. | ||
| Sometimes they late rut in October. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So one was running, and I thought they were horses for sure, because I just thought, well, I've never seen them. | ||
| And it was fast, really fast. | ||
| Like across this, it was a sort of farmer's field. | ||
| And they're playing with each other? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, and then the car pulled up. | ||
| I pulled up my car and they immediately stopped and looked at me and walked off into the woods. | ||
| But yeah, it's beautiful out there, man. | ||
| But yeah, ghost towns. | ||
| That's where I'm going after this. | ||
| I'm going to go try to find some ghost towns and photograph those. | ||
| And I'm writing. | ||
| I write in the van. | ||
| I'm working on things that I'm working on. | ||
| I'm not just... | ||
| Completely off the grid. | ||
| I mean, I'm writing an animated series right now that I'm sort of working on, so I'm on my computer sometimes. | ||
| An animated series? | ||
| Yeah, there's this... | ||
| I'm working with this great company out of Ottawa, my hometown, called Mercury Filmworks, and they actually animate Mickey Mouse and all sorts of stuff for Disney, the big animated company, and so I'm writing a fun show about... | ||
| A crazy kid who likes pulling pranks. | ||
| Oh, about you? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's called Little Tommy Green. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| How on the nose is that? | ||
| It's like a Dennis the Menace, you know? | ||
| But he goes out and pulls pranks on his parents and does a lot of the kinds of things I did. | ||
| But, you know, so I'm writing that and just kind of... | ||
| You know, it's interesting. | ||
| I found that I can kind of do everything that I would do at home in the van, with this electrical system, so it's pretty neat. - You seem like you're in a good place. | ||
| It seems like it's been tricky, but I'm getting the impression that you're really enjoying this. | ||
| I am, yeah. | ||
| Is this going to extend? | ||
| How long are you going to do this for? | ||
| This is a very good question. | ||
| Is this your new life? | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I'm not selling my house or anything. | ||
| I think what I'll do is, I mean, I bought the van. | ||
| I didn't rent it for a quick one-off trip, you know, and I've put a lot of time into it and I am enjoying it. | ||
| And one thing is I've always loved photography. | ||
| I'm bringing a Leica film camera as well, so I'm shooting a lot of still photography as well. | ||
| And it's nice to have something to take a picture of. | ||
| It's nice to go somewhere interesting. | ||
| So I'm enjoying that. | ||
| But I think that what I'll probably do is when life gets back to normal, Whenever the fuck that is, right? | ||
| Yeah, what is normal anymore. | ||
| Part of my plan is to, you know, when I start touring again, doing stand-up again, I think I might take a few less airplanes in the future and be in the van a little bit more. | ||
| So like say if you have a gig, if you decided to stand up in Utah, you might drive there. | ||
| I'm thinking I might start to talk to, you know, the way I book it about sort of doing more of a road trip type run of like in a straight line as opposed to go, oh, I'm in, you know, Seattle this week and Boston next week. | ||
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Right, we have to fly around. | |
| Maybe do an East Coast run or do... | ||
| Yeah, that's smart. | ||
| So I'm thinking it might be something that I do. | ||
| I mean, I'm not moving into my van full time, but I definitely do a lot of... | ||
| But you're moving in that direction, it seems like. | ||
| Look, it's interesting what you say, I believe, is true because... | ||
| Yeah, get in there, fella. | ||
| By the way, this is the way I make coffee, too. | ||
| I make coffee with this thing. | ||
| This is not an endorsement or anything, but it's a pretty cool product. | ||
| It's called a Jetboil. | ||
| Yeah, I use Jetboils. | ||
| Those are great, huh? | ||
| Yeah, they're great for hunting. | ||
| Yeah, because I don't want to use my battery. | ||
| So I boil up my water, and then I make my coffee, and then I pour it into a thermos. | ||
| I put my coffee all day, and my hot coffee in the thermos all day. | ||
| It's amazing that it stays hot. | ||
| And I was thinking about that. | ||
| Modern technology. | ||
| Thinking about that exact thing, I'm going, has thermos technology changed? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Since in Canada, I was a kid, you'd take a thermos to hockey because we play outside on outdoor rinks, and you bring a thermos of hot chocolate. | ||
| We didn't... | ||
| Yeah, well, when I was a kid, we used to ice fish. | ||
| We used to bring hot coffee out onto the lake. | ||
| I never did much of that. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's not as fun as regular fishing, but when you're living in a place like Boston... | ||
| Were you in the hut on the... | ||
| No. | ||
| We were just out there. | ||
| What were you fishing for? | ||
| Pike or... | ||
| Trout, usually. | ||
| Trout. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pike, too, though. | ||
| Yeah, pike are pretty active in cold weather. | ||
| You do much fishing these days? | ||
| I do when I can. | ||
| Unfortunately, ever since I moved to Austin, it's been kind of playing catch-up and getting everything set up. | ||
| I'm still not totally moved. | ||
| I mean, I'm moved in, but I'm not totally settled in. | ||
| But I'm pretty close. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Didn't catch much trout growing up. | ||
| Mostly largemouth bass and pike was what I would fish for. | ||
| But yeah, thermos technology, I don't know if it's changed, but it's amazing. | ||
| Oh yeah, Yeti flipped the fucking game on its head. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, Yeti coolers are amazing. | ||
| I have a Yeti cooler that I take when I hunt and you can put... | ||
| Ice in that Yeti cooler in the summer and seven days later you'll have ice. | ||
| It's bananas. | ||
| They're crazy. | ||
| I took a video that I put on my Instagram of we shot deer in Hawaii. | ||
| We shot Axis deer in Hawaii. | ||
| They put the thing in the cargo. | ||
| You seal up the Yeti and got it all the way back to LA. Left it outside overnight. | ||
| Then the next day at noon, I opened it up and it was filled with ice. | ||
| Like rock solid ice. | ||
| It's crazy how good those things are. | ||
| That's better than... | ||
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Insulate. | |
| That's better than... | ||
| I just have a regular thermos for my coffee, but that's pretty amazing. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how... | ||
| The coolers are way better. | ||
| The thermoses are better. | ||
| Those... | ||
| You know, Yeti makes those tumblers. | ||
| They'll keep your coffee hot, like, literally all day. | ||
| I don't know what they're doing. | ||
| Some voodoo, but it's fucking amazing. | ||
| I loved the sock foot walk when you were with Steve. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, yeah, when you're sneaking up on deer, you've got to take your shoes off. | ||
| Is that something that you've done before? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| My friend Remy Warren calls it an SOS, a shoes-off situation. | ||
| Like when you're closing in on, particularly on mule deer. | ||
| Mule deer are very sensitive to predators. | ||
| Elk are not nearly as sensitive. | ||
| Elk hear a lot of noise. | ||
| Elk are a big animal. | ||
| And, you know, they're worried about mountain lions and bears and stuff like that. | ||
| But... | ||
| You know, they're a little less worried than the smaller animals are. | ||
| So mule deer are particularly worried. | ||
| They're very jumpy. | ||
| They're always like listening around and their ears are twisting and if you snap a branch, they'll pop up and start running. | ||
| Obviously, that was a fun day with you and Steve out there, but that was in Nevada, wasn't it? | ||
| Yeah, that was in the Nevada high country where we were hunting mule deer. | ||
| We struck out, but I got real close a couple times to deer, just didn't really get a shot. | ||
| Is it kind of sort of nice sometimes when they get away? | ||
| It is because, well, it's a luxury because I'm living in a first world country and I have access to food and I'm not starving. | ||
| So it's a luxury that I can enjoy the fact that they got away. | ||
| Because this is something that I've been grappling with a little bit because, like I said, I'm not a hunter, but now I am hunting, but I haven't Actually seen anything, so I'm just looking. | ||
| When I'm saying I'm hunting, I'm looking for something. | ||
| You're looking for birds, right? | ||
| And in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, grouse or quail, I could probably wrap my head around that. | ||
| Yeah, because first of all, you know... | ||
| I'm eating raw onions and canned beans out there. | ||
| I'm not cooking onions. | ||
| That would be pretty tasty. | ||
| A nice chicken out there. | ||
| A nice wild chicken. | ||
| But the thing is, I also kind of know I'm never going to find one because I don't know what I'm doing. | ||
| I think you really need dogs that are trained to roast the birds out. | ||
| Not necessarily. | ||
| There's a lot of birds that you can get if you just... | ||
| So I've done some research. | ||
| Okay, so I went to this was top of a mountain. | ||
| Where was this? | ||
| This was on the road for a while, but it was, you know, I know the dusty grouse is native to this certain elevation in the Weisach Plateau. | ||
| That's where I was. | ||
| The Weisach Plateau in Utah. | ||
| And I went up there. | ||
| I don't think that's how you say it. | ||
| Wasatch or? | ||
| I think that's it, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I just read the sign when I drove up the road. | ||
| Beautiful country though, huh? | ||
| Oh my god, yeah. | ||
| And they're in the Aspens. | ||
| But there was a moment where I was walking through the Aspens looking for the dusty grouse. | ||
| You know, didn't see one, and then there were three beautiful deer standing there, like, you know, as far as Jamie away, looking at me, standing there with my shotgun, looking at him. | ||
| I'm just like, I don't know what I'd do with you guys, but I am pretty hungry right now, but I'll let you guys go. | ||
| I'm going to keep looking for my bird. | ||
| But, so, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know that I would ever even really... | ||
| Want to shoot a mammal? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A mammal for some reason. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if I would. | ||
| But you eat them. | ||
| Yeah, no, I know. | ||
| And I've heard you talk about this and I agree with it, too. | ||
| But I just don't know if I'd be able to do it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You would definitely be able to do it if you had to for food. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I'm sure you would develop a different sort of relationship with the animal. | ||
| You would think that you're very appreciative of them, but you'll develop this real predator-prey relationship with animals if you need to survive. | ||
| I've talked about this many times, but unfortunately I'm going to talk about it again. | ||
| There's a fantastic series that Vice Guide to Travel did. | ||
| Back in the day, it's quite a few years old, at least eight years old, I think. | ||
| It's called Heinmo's Arctic Adventure. | ||
| And it's a guy, I think his name is Heinmo Kuth. | ||
| I think that's his last name. | ||
| And he lives up in the middle of nowhere in Alaska. | ||
| And he actually has... | ||
| A license to be in this particular area or a permit to be in this particular area that no one else can ever have a house in there again. | ||
| He's like grandfathered in. | ||
| And all this guy does is go out and subsistence hunt. | ||
| So he goes out and hunts caribou. | ||
| He goes out and he fishes. | ||
| And that's all he does. | ||
| That's his whole life. | ||
| And this guy has this incredible connection to life and to... | ||
| To his food. | ||
| But he's also a very articulate, intelligent man. | ||
| So when he talks about it, he's able to talk about it in a way. | ||
| This is the guy right here. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So he's got all of his food and it's frozen. | ||
| See, that's his cabin. | ||
| That's where he lives. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And he's been out there since, I think, since the 70s. | ||
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| Is this where I'm headed? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| Super fucking healthy and really robust, this guy. | ||
| Didn't find out about 9-11 until quite a while afterwards. | ||
| And I think he found out from a photograph. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Yeah, and he lives up there with his wife. | ||
| It's like one of those Japanese soldiers they found in the woods. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| In the 60s, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| They still thought the war was going on. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But this guy, he's got a really interesting way of describing what he thinks is great about this life. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wait, where do I find this? | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| It's Vice Guided Travel. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Yeah, there it is. | ||
| Surviving Alone in Alaska. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's how you say it. | ||
| K-O-R-T-H. Wow. | ||
| Yeah, I watched that show Alone, actually, which I loved. | ||
| Have you ever watched that show? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That show was amazing. | ||
| So that was something I was getting in my head. | ||
| I don't know if it's the latest season, but the one guy who got the moose. | ||
| Jordan Jonas, right? | ||
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That guy. | |
| That's the guy who's been on the podcast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and he, like, made a fishing net out of rope, and that was incredible. | ||
| But, no, it's just something amazing about it, for sure. | ||
| But, so, yeah, yeah, it's... | ||
| And, by the way, like, first of all, I believe I said congratulations already off-camera, but how cool is this, man? | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| Thanks, buddy. | ||
| I, you know, I'm super... | ||
| It doesn't make sense to say proud of you because, I mean, what the fuck does that mean? | ||
| But, you know, like, I am, though. | ||
| I mean, like, I just... | ||
| I think it's so cool. | ||
| I sent you a text right after you announced your Spotify deal. | ||
| I was just thinking, like, nobody has ever done that before. | ||
| You know, like, in the history of all broadcasting. | ||
| You know, I said, you know, Johnny Carson was the guy who we all looked up to back in the day. | ||
| Had everybody watching him. | ||
| It was a different world. | ||
| Television was... | ||
| You know, three networks, everybody watched Johnny. | ||
| He was a guy who became this very successful person off of traditional media. | ||
| But to do what you've done is just so incredible. | ||
| And I just, congratulations. | ||
| It's definitely something that, you know, I, you know, we talked about this before, but I always thought, man, you could do that. | ||
| You could do that. | ||
| You could be the biggest show. | ||
| And not be on network TV. I always believed that. | ||
| And thank you for proving it. | ||
| Because it's so cool. | ||
| And I love the studio, by the way. | ||
| Well, thank you for being a pioneer, man. | ||
| Because you gave me some of the... | ||
| I mean, I'm a real pioneer now. | ||
| I'm living in a log... | ||
| Chopping wood for dinner. | ||
| But you were a pioneer of this because you gave me the seeds of the earliest ideas about doing a podcast. | ||
| Well, you've been very kind when you've said these things to me over the years and last time. | ||
| But what I find amazing about it that I never was able to figure out... | ||
| I was into the technology and I was never really able to figure out what is so amazing. | ||
| What I've watched you figure out is... | ||
| You've really made a show that really captures the interest of people. | ||
| You know, a huge population of people love what you guys talk about on the show, and that's what's really cool, you know? | ||
| I mean, how did you determine that? | ||
| Like, you know, I just watched your interview with Kanye. | ||
| I just watched your interview with Alex Jones, and I'm just seeing all these subjects that I see swirling around, and I'm going, well, that's the kind of stuff that, like, When I go down a rabbit hole on the internet, I want to learn about these things. | ||
| Was there a moment where you realized, oh wait, if I talk about X, Y, or Z, that's really capturing people's attention? | ||
| Or was it just what you were interested in? | ||
| Never for a second. | ||
| Never for a second have I said, this is going to capture people's interest. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Everything has been like, ooh, I want to talk to that guy. | ||
| Oh, that guy said he was in a Navy jet and he was tracking a UFO, Commander David Fravor. | ||
| Ooh, I want to talk to him. | ||
| Oh, Bob Lazar said he worked on alien technology in Area S4. Oh, I want to talk to him. | ||
| Oh, this guy said he saw Bigfoot, or that guy says he's working on life extension and figuring out how to lengthen your telomeres, or this guy knows how to, you know, whatever it is. | ||
| They're figuring out the age of the universe, or people that are writing books, or people that are former military people, or people that are whatever they are. | ||
| If I find them interesting, I like people. | ||
| I'm a big fan of people. | ||
| I like talking to all kinds of different people. | ||
| I like the way their brain thinks. | ||
| I like comparing the way people's brain thinks. | ||
| I like sort of like just seeing how they view the world. | ||
| Because the way you view the world is the way you personally view the world. | ||
| But it's very much influenced by the things that you've found attractive about the way the other people that you've run into see things. | ||
| Like we are not individuals in the sense that we're autonomous, completely alone, without any influence whatsoever from the outside world. | ||
| We are, we have multi-influences. | ||
| We're constantly being influenced by our environment. | ||
| That's why you're, where you live is so important. | ||
| And one of the things that I found in moving from LA to Austin is that where you live, it makes a big impact on the amount of stress you have and how you feel. | ||
| I feel so much better here, just right away. | ||
| Disconnected from Hollywood, disconnected from traditional forms of show business, but also the people here. | ||
| The people here are different. | ||
| They're more relaxed. | ||
| They're regular people. | ||
| Chappelle and I were having a conversation about this last night, and we were talking about how people here in Austin, they're real people. | ||
| They're not people that are trying to get famous and people that are trying to get on television shows and do movies, and there's a weirdness to that life. | ||
| And some of the people that do that are really cool. | ||
| It's rare and nice when you run into a guy like Chris Pratt, who is a super famous guy. | ||
| He's in the movies, but could not be more genuine. | ||
| Could not be more down to earth. | ||
| Could not be more normal and friendly. | ||
| Super great guy. | ||
| Just happens to be a big movie star. | ||
| But that's rare. | ||
| Most of the people that want that life, they're all kind of wacky and fucked up. | ||
| And you're in their world with their energy, and they infect all the people around them. | ||
| They infect people that are in the service industry, managers, agents. | ||
| There's this fucking hive of weirdness. | ||
| Out here, there's none of that. | ||
| There's none of that. | ||
| And almost immediately, I felt a lowering of stress level. | ||
| Almost immediately. | ||
| And then the people that you deal with, whether it's someone who's working at the counter at Walgreens or a restaurant, they're so nice. | ||
| They're so friendly. | ||
| And so because early on in your show, you had the confidence to just do your own thing, right? | ||
| You created your own thing. | ||
| You didn't have these sort of tentacles coming down telling you, oh, you can't interview that person. | ||
| That allowed you to just talk to the people that you found interesting and You happen to be interested in interesting shit? | ||
| Yeah, but in the beginning, nobody wanted anything to do with it. | ||
| That's what's hilarious. | ||
| Like, my agent, in the beginning, didn't want to have anything to do with this podcast. | ||
| They were like, what are you wasting your time? | ||
| Because back then, like, 2,000 people were watching or listening. | ||
| Nobody was listening. | ||
| Yeah, I remember with mine, I was trying to tell people, hey, this is going to be a thing. | ||
| I know. | ||
| They're like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| We're busy with movies, kid. | ||
| They're busy. | ||
| So luckily, in the beginning, when I maybe could have used a little help getting guests or doing things or getting advertisement or something like that, they didn't get involved. | ||
| Because if somebody got involved, they would have definitely told me to not do things that have turned out to be very successful. | ||
| Like, I'm sure they would have told me to not interview controversial people or not interview people that, you know, you're going to get criticized for specific topics or, you know, specific people that are writing books that may, you know, ruffle a bunch of people's feathers. | ||
| And I want to know what they think. | ||
| I want to know why they think the way they think. | ||
| I want to ask them questions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's a lot of people that don't think you should do that. | ||
| And they'll be the gatekeepers to the information that you take in and the conversations that you have and you distribute. | ||
| And it's not good. | ||
| If you talk to someone and it was a mistake, well, now you know. | ||
| But at least you know. | ||
| You talk to them. | ||
| If someone tells you it's a mistake to talk to someone but you want to talk to them... | ||
| And then you start thinking, oh, let me run it by Mike and the team. | ||
| And then the team will sit around and think about their mortgage. | ||
| They sit around and think about whether or not you could get in trouble. | ||
| And that could eventually lead to them having a decrease in their income. | ||
| And then they start to fucking... | ||
| Play it safe. | ||
| I've seen that, man. | ||
| I've seen that with stand-ups. | ||
| I've seen that with people. | ||
| There's people that have podcasts, and they have a bunch of people that are there at the studio telling them to talk about different things, telling them to pick different subjects, telling them, let's move on. | ||
| I've seen that. | ||
| I've seen in the middle of a podcast, someone say, let's move on. | ||
| You guys are on this subject. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| Who the fuck are you? | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| Some guy standing on the outside that gets some sneaky paycheck that he doesn't really deserve is now saying, let's move on. | ||
| Holding a clipboard as if it, like, what are you doing? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| It's two people talking. | ||
| And if they decide to move on, they'll move on. | ||
| But people that, like, bring up this. | ||
| Bring up that. | ||
| Like, bring up this. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| Why are you here? | ||
| But that's what they do. | ||
| If you've ever gone to, like, I went to, I did, what's that guy's name, the sports guy? | ||
| Bill Simmons. | ||
| I did his show on HBO. He's a great guy. | ||
| Really interesting guy, and I love the way he does his podcast, but I did his HBO show, dude, and you're surrounded by people. | ||
| It's me and him sitting in the booth just like this, but there's fucking people there, and there's people there, and there's people walking around the set. | ||
| It's distracting, and there's people standing around. | ||
| They got notes and clipboards, and there's camera people everywhere, and you're like, what? | ||
| This is not necessary. | ||
| You have 100 people here, or whatever. | ||
| 20. You have 20 people here. | ||
| You need one. | ||
| You need one person. | ||
| And then managing all of those people becomes a bigger priority than actually the content. | ||
| And then you have inter-office politics take place. | ||
| You have relationships with people. | ||
| I mean, I don't mean relationships like boy-girl, boy-boy, girl-girl. | ||
| I mean like friends and weirdness. | ||
| Egos. | ||
| Egos. | ||
| The bosses have got ego and then they're mad at the talent because the talent is getting more attention than they are. | ||
| Blah! | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| No one would have ever let me do this show. | ||
| They would have never. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No one would have ever let me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's not by design that I did it this way. | ||
| It's not like I see what they don't see and I'm going to do this. | ||
| It's like, I didn't want to listen. | ||
| It's like, get out of here. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| I'm going to do what I want to do. | ||
| You had that confidence and just straight up sort of... | ||
| You didn't give a fuck, and you just did it. | ||
| Where do you think that came from? | ||
| Fear factor money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That helped. | ||
| I had a little bit of fear factor money in the bank, where I'm like, if this shit completely hits the fan, I can just sort of live off of that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And also, I've never been very good with the whole boss, someone telling you what to do. | ||
| If I did that, if I was good with that, I would never become a stand-up. | ||
| I've never done most of the things that I've done, and I certainly would have... | ||
| No, thank you, I'm good. | ||
| I certainly would have never been able to do the podcast this way. | ||
| If I brought people aboard, and there was a certain point in time where people... | ||
| We were talking about it before the show, that people did want to come on board. | ||
| I've had offers where people wanted to buy half the podcast. | ||
| Pretty generous amounts of money. | ||
| I was like, I don't think this is wise. | ||
| This is not wise. | ||
| This is going to get weird. | ||
| Spotify was the first offer where they came around and said, we don't want you to do anything different. | ||
| We just want to license the show. | ||
| How do you decide what you're going to ask people? | ||
| You just go on with the flow? | ||
| Do you research on stuff? | ||
| Because I really loved some of the questions you asked Kanye. | ||
| I'm trying to remember what they were, but I mean, do you sort of plan it in advance, or are you kind of just sort of... | ||
| Well, with Kanye, we had talked about doing a podcast for a long time, but I was worried that he was going to come off in a negative way. | ||
| I remember your first question was, why do you want to do this, right? | ||
| That was when he was running for president. | ||
| Yeah, I thought it was such a great question, because it's like, you know... | ||
| Why do you want to run for president? | ||
| Well, everybody would ask that question. | ||
| Yeah, but it was just right into it. | ||
| It was just great, you know? | ||
| Well, I'm a fan of his music. | ||
| I've always been a fan of his music. | ||
| And I think that the way he communicates, his sort of manic style of thinking and constantly creating and doing things, It's why he's so successful. | ||
| This stream of consciousness that he has is also why he's so prolific as an artist. | ||
| All of his albums are good. | ||
| He doesn't have a dud. | ||
| You go from one album to the next and they're all... | ||
| He's got this stream of creative ideas that are constantly running through his head. | ||
| And he talks sometimes in these streams where they don't end. | ||
| He goes from one subject to the next subject. | ||
| And so... | ||
| I was curious as to how I was going to talk to him and I wanted to make sure that we can do it in a way where other people are going to appreciate there's a great value in the way he thinks. | ||
| And then if you get it in sound bites or you get it in some weird thing where he says something and people get mad at him and they boo him or something like that. | ||
| You're missing who he really is. | ||
| Who he really is is him all day. | ||
| It's not him in this 30-second chunk where you don't like what he said. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| He probably doesn't like what he said either. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| He's fucking streaming. | ||
| He's just going. | ||
| He's running with these thoughts and ideas. | ||
| But that's also why he can boil those thoughts and ideas down, these amazing fucking songs. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, this is... | ||
| That's what I wanted to get out of him while we were talking. | ||
| Because people were trying to medicate him and people were trying to... | ||
| And I'm like, I don't... | ||
| If you have a choice between this medicated, overweight Kanye who doesn't get anything done or manic, crazy Kanye, he says wild shit. | ||
| You want manic, crazy Kanye. | ||
| Because manic, crazy Kanye is the one who makes amazing music. | ||
| And I've been around him. | ||
| He's a nice guy, man. | ||
| He's a really genuinely nice guy. | ||
| And when the cameras are off, same thing. | ||
| He's a nice guy with all the staff and everybody. | ||
| He's cool. | ||
| He's genuinely cool. | ||
| But whatever you want to call mental illness, That's the problem. | ||
| It's like, when you call it mental illness, well, you gotta give it medicine. | ||
| He's got mental illness, you gotta give him medicine. | ||
| Do you really? | ||
| Because that mental illness is making some pretty amazing shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, look at his fucking catalog! | ||
| Look at all the music he's made! | ||
| That's all because of mental illness? | ||
| No! | ||
| Whatever you call an illness is a particular style of thinking that he has that's sort of nonlinear, and it's wild, and it's all over the place, but it's also very focused. | ||
| I found in that interview, though, that I've seen him interviewed quite a bit, but that was one where everything he said made a lot of sense. | ||
| He's certainly done a lot of... | ||
| Put a lot of thought into a lot of the stuff he was talking about with everything from reorganizing the way civilization works. | ||
| I know, isn't that crazy? | ||
| It takes a little bit of thinking to come up with how to reorganize the entire way civilization works. | ||
| But that was one of the things that I thought was really good about the interviews. | ||
| You do get a chance to see, like, this is not just a crazy person who buys his own bullshit. | ||
| And by the way, when he's, like, the braggy stuff that he kind of does, talks about himself, First of all, he's being honest about where he is. | ||
| He's sort of reaffirming who he is. | ||
| But also, he jokes around. | ||
| He was joking around about it. | ||
| He was showing us this video that he had made for his wife, for his wife's birthday. | ||
| And it was really emotional. | ||
| It was very beautiful. | ||
| Because he made a hologram of her dad. | ||
| And he wrote the script for all this. | ||
| Oh, he did? | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, and he wrote the script for all the things that the hologram was telling her. | ||
| It's really intense. | ||
| And you can do that now. | ||
| They can take your voice. | ||
| And for you and I, it would be easy for them to do it because there's hours and hours and hours of us talking. | ||
| So they would take this voice. | ||
| God, can you imagine what they could do? | ||
| They already have. | ||
| They used me as an example for one of these companies in Canada. | ||
| They used me as an example for how well this deepfake technology works because there's 1,500 fucking plus podcasts in me that are three hours long. | ||
| So you take these sounds that come out of my mouth and then you can make me say anything. | ||
| Literally anything. | ||
| Because every noise that I'm capable of making, I've made. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So you use this catalog of sounds that my voice can make, and that's what he also did with that hologram. | ||
| Because, you know, Robert Kardashian, there's all the cases and all the different times he's been interviewed on television, there's a great catalog of his voice. | ||
| And you can have him speak to her. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But even in then, he has him say, you know, and you're genius, genius husband. | ||
| But he was laughing when he said it and showed it to us. | ||
| He was laughing. | ||
| He thought it was funny that he had Robert Kardashian call him a genius, amazing, genius husband. | ||
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Right. | |
| He thought it was funny. | ||
| Like he's not just – it's not just ego. | ||
| It's not just crazy. | ||
| It's also – there's brilliance there. | ||
| He's a complicated person. | ||
| It's nice to hear that because like it's interesting how the media can sort of reframe a person, right? | ||
| They take away nuance. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People are nuanced, man. | ||
| People are really complicated. | ||
| You decide to decide that a person is this person because of one sentence they said one time or because of one thing that they did where they maybe wish they didn't or because of one concert they did where people booed them or whatever you pick about Kanye that people decide he's this. | ||
| People just love to put someone in a box and categorize them and just decide that they want to dismiss them. | ||
| And this is the problem with cancel culture, right? | ||
| It's like... | ||
| We have this idea of things where we want to boil them down to almost a tweet. | ||
| Things that are enormously complicated. | ||
| A man who's lived 40 plus years of his life and in that life has experienced heartbreak and sorrow and success and failure and friendship and betrayal and all these different things and all the creative passions that you've poured out into your work and they want to just Boil you down to a sentence or two. | ||
| And it's crazy. | ||
| It's crazy for the person doing that and trying to boil someone down. | ||
| It's crazy for people to read it and accept it. | ||
| It's so negative. | ||
| It's one of the most negative things about social media is that we want to categorize someone by individual tweets or individual statements. | ||
| People are fucking immensely complex. | ||
| Immensely complex. | ||
| And to deny that... | ||
| To deny that, it's very disingenuous. | ||
| It's dishonest. | ||
| It's bad for our understanding of us. | ||
| It's bad for our understanding of who we are personally as a human. | ||
| When someone decides to define you based on a sentence or call you, they go, Tom Green is just a bum-ba-bum-ba-bum. | ||
| And then you read it and you're like, oh shit, I am? | ||
| Like we were talking about comments. | ||
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And then you start to believe it. | |
| Well, that's why the comments are negative. | ||
| You know, when you're reading comments, you're reading one person's typed out thing that's negative about you and you're saying like, oh, I can't help myself. | ||
| Yeah, that is all – there's a real issue with the way human beings are – Taking in other people's opinions. | ||
| It's not that there's anything wrong with taking in people's opinions, but people's opinions are supposed to be shared like this. | ||
| Like you and I are sharing opinions. | ||
| Like you tell me something and I tell you something and I say, did you mean this? | ||
| And you're like, no, no, I meant that. | ||
| And you're like, oh, okay. | ||
| Oh, so you think that. | ||
| And you're like, yeah. | ||
| And then we're like, oh. | ||
| Then we get each other. | ||
| We're talking. | ||
| But it's an exchange. | ||
| It's very rare that you can just nail something with a sentence or two. | ||
| And also, you're not limited by time, as in normal television. | ||
| There's, oh, we've got seven minutes before the commercial break, so we've got to get to this and this and this, and then you never really end up talking about anything. | ||
| That's been the best part about podcasting without a boss, is that no one has ever told me, like, it has to be 45 minutes long. | ||
| It has to be in here, and let's edit out the parts that weren't as good. | ||
| Let's chop this up and make that, like... | ||
| Why? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Why? | |
| So are you going to go back to LA at all? | ||
| Are you going to keep the studio there or two? | ||
| I'm going to fly over it in a plane when it's on fire. | ||
| You're not going to web a comedy story? | ||
| When Gavin Newsom detonates the nuclear weapon that he has under his desk. | ||
| What about stand-up? | ||
| Because they decide that they're going to kick him out of office. | ||
| You miss the comedy store? | ||
| He's going to have a suicide vest on. | ||
| Yeah, I do miss the comedy store, but the comedy store is not the comedy store anymore. | ||
| It's not open. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But when it opens up again, you're going to... | ||
| If. | ||
| If is the word. | ||
| LA is on a 10 p.m. | ||
| curfew now. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because COVID has a betty-bye time. | ||
| COVID, after 10 p.m., it comes out and it attacks people. | ||
| But before 10 p.m., we're fine. | ||
| But we got a vaccine coming, right? | ||
| When the vaccine next year, it'll open up again. | ||
| Why 10 p.m.? | ||
| That's so arbitrary. | ||
| Are you telling me you can't catch COVID between 6 and 10? | ||
| Like, there's going to be some sort of a thing that happens after 10? | ||
| People are more vulnerable. | ||
| They get drunk and put your guard down. | ||
| It's nonsense, man. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| These fucking assholes are imposing rules on people that close their businesses down for no reason. | ||
| You still drinking on the show? | ||
| You want a drink? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's what you want? | ||
| I'll have one. | ||
| Am I getting you nervous? | ||
| All this crazy talk of COVID? No, you just mentioned alcohol and I thought, hey, you're still drinking on the show. | ||
| Yeah, we can have some booze, sort of. | ||
| Jamie, let's get us some whiskey. | ||
| Some Texas whiskey. | ||
| And some glasses. | ||
| No ice. | ||
| We're going like men today. | ||
| No ice. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| What kind of whiskey are you drinking here in Texas? | ||
| Whatever we have. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Do you have a favorite? | ||
| I've been drinking Bushmills. | ||
| That's good stuff. | ||
| I like Buffalo Trace. | ||
| Oh yeah, we had that last time. | ||
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Two reasons. | |
| It's a sponsor, and they've been around since before America started. | ||
| Ah, okay. | ||
| They've been around since 1773. I see. | ||
| And it's really good. | ||
| They won, like, Whiskey Maker of the Year 2020. Yeah. | ||
| Bushmills is my grandfather's Irish heritage. | ||
| That's real shit. | ||
| Northern Ireland, so, you know. | ||
| My friend Josh Barnett has a great whiskey as well. | ||
| Goddammit, I don't have a bottle here. | ||
| I'm trying to remember the name of it. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Warm Master. | ||
| It's like a smoky whiskey. | ||
| It's very good. | ||
| He brought it last time he was on the podcast. | ||
| Yeah, I drink scotch, too. | ||
| Balvini scotch, I like. | ||
| So you're getting hammered out there in the woods by yourself. | ||
| In the woods, I don't have the Balvini. | ||
| In the woods, I got a lot of mini bottles, like airplane bottles. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I got a fridge full of those. | ||
| Do you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why don't you just have a big bottle and glass? | ||
| Once you open it, you know, you don't really want to open a bottle of booze in your van when you're driving around. | ||
| So you just drink them one at a time, and then you never have an open container, and that's my idea I came up with. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Like, you can't have an open container in a car, right? | ||
|
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| Is that the deal? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So I just got a bunch of little ones that drinks. | ||
| Quite smart, sir. | ||
| That's a healthy pour, my friend. | ||
| Salute, my brother. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
|
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Come on, man. | |
| We're in Texas. | ||
| Mmm. | ||
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Mmm. | |
| This is Still Austin. | ||
| Straight bourbon whiskey. | ||
| Local stuff. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Legit, right? | ||
| Very nice, yeah. | ||
| Very good. | ||
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Woo! | |
| Bourbon. | ||
| That's this. | ||
| I don't drink alone. | ||
| That's corn, right? | ||
| Bourbon's corn? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I don't drink alone. | ||
| You don't? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, I'm a social drinker. | ||
| I don't think I ever drink alone. | ||
| I smoke weed alone, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I like to do that before I write. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I heard Carlin talk about that. | ||
| I mean, Red or something. | ||
| He talked about how... | ||
| Let me get this right. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| He wrote first, and then he would write to punch it up. | ||
| One, he would drink when he was coming up with ideas, and then he would polish it up with some weed, I think. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Or maybe it was the other way around, but yeah. | ||
| He definitely would punch it up with pot, he said. | ||
| He would smoke pot and then punch up the material. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| How are you supposed to write totally straight, you know? | ||
| I write in the morning a lot. | ||
| Totally straight. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because you kind of got that energy. | ||
| But a lot of times it's just a scaffolding. | ||
| Just a framework. | ||
| And then pot's like, I got an idea. | ||
| Then I smoke the weed and the weed's like, I got an idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like it's cheating sometimes. | ||
| Because the ideas aren't really mine. | ||
| They're the weed's ideas. | ||
| The weed's like, listen. | ||
| No, it's just relaxing your mind and taking you away from your distractions and allowing you to just kind of relax and think of things that you might not have thought of if you were distracted by all the seriousness of life, right? | ||
| I think it's more complicated than that. | ||
| I think your body is interacting with molecules that it doesn't come in contact with in the regular world. | ||
| And these molecules have a spiritual connection to the universe that you're not able to access without them. | ||
| That's what I really believe. | ||
| Wait, say that again? | ||
| I think the molecules of marijuana in particular, when you smoke pot and you just get this, there's a connection that you get with the universe that's not available when you're sober. | ||
| When you're sober, I think that your feelings are in some ways deadened. | ||
| They're deadened by an accumulation of life experience and overwhelming burden of your existence and your friends and your bills and your obligations and your life. | ||
| There's all these things going on and all these things sort of like squash and deaden your sensitivity. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then everything just... | ||
| Everything opens up. | ||
| And then you have access to thoughts and ideas and feelings that you're just not available without the weed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It's a beautiful thing. | ||
| That's a beautiful thing. | ||
| Yeah, I remember the first time I was on your show. | ||
| How many years ago was that? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I think... | ||
| That's back in the day, son. | ||
| I think we were pretty high for that one. | ||
| I think we got too high a lot of times for those shows. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And you noticed last time I was here, I was like, oh, I don't really like to smoke when I do the thing because I kind of get quiet, you know? | ||
| Get nervous. | ||
| We were talking about the election yesterday and I did it with Donnell and then Dave Chappelle come on and I got way too high. | ||
| I'm trying to think of what I really think about the election while I'm doing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, on one hand, I'm like, I hope people are more relaxed. | ||
| Like, the people that hated Trump, I hope they're more relaxed. | ||
| And I hope everybody just, like, maybe the country can heal together. | ||
| But on the other side, like, the people that think that Trump got robbed, like, they're angry. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And it's almost like people are more separated than ever before. | ||
| And there's a lot of people that are like, there was no election interference. | ||
| There was no election fraud. | ||
| I'm like, I think there's always election fraud. | ||
| Always. | ||
| The question is how much of it is there. | ||
| If you're dealing with hundreds of thousands of workers, like we were talking about it yesterday, like what is the number of election fraud? | ||
| What's the percentage? | ||
| It's not zero. | ||
| Is it more than zero? | ||
| Most people think it's more than zero. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So what's the number? | ||
| Is it only like a thousand episodes of fraud in the whole country over millions and millions and millions of votes and it's really non, you know, in terms of like the overall effect? | ||
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It's quite possibly it's that. | |
| In my opinion, I don't know. | ||
| I haven't done anything to research it, so I wouldn't be able to tell you for sure. | ||
| I just worry about the state of the country in terms of this polarization between the two sides. | ||
| The red versus the blue. | ||
| Because I think it's mostly bullshit. | ||
| I think mostly people are just Americans. | ||
| And we need to just... | ||
| Whoever's in office now, let's support them and hope they do the best. | ||
| Because one of the things we were saying yesterday was that... | ||
| I feel like when Trump was in office, people literally wanted the economy to tank so that he would be a loser. | ||
| They wanted things to go bad because they didn't want him to do well. | ||
| They would rat, like I was saying, if you gave a lot of hardcore people that were Trump haters the choice, would you rather have the country do fantastic and have... | ||
| Trump's, all of his ideas turn out to be the best for our culture, our economy, joblessness, everything's doing great, but he's bragging and he's on TV. Or, would you rather have everything tank and he goes to jail? | ||
| Fuck him! | ||
| Put him in jail! | ||
| I think there's a lot of people that would say that. | ||
| They would rather the economy go to shit and Trump wound up getting put in jail and removed from office than him being a winner and being successful. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Because he's such a polarizing figure that we would rather him fail and then the United States – not we. | ||
| Some people would rather him fail and the United States be in a real bad situation than him kick ass and do amazing, the United States booming. | ||
| But this asshole that you hate is like the hero. | ||
| What you do here is amazing because you have this sort of very – Broad audience of people on both sides on your show and you have found a way to, I guess, not polarize it so badly that half the people don't want to pay attention anymore. | ||
| I don't think we do have two sides. | ||
| You don't? | ||
| I think it's a lie. | ||
| I think we have America. | ||
| I think we have... | ||
| You know what we're saying? | ||
| That somebody wanted to write something about you. | ||
| Like a negative comment about you on a YouTube video. | ||
| I like that, by the way. | ||
| You don't have two sides. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Because I've been thinking a lot about that lately. | ||
| Because I've been... | ||
| I don't know if you can see in some of the videos. | ||
| I got my U.S. citizenship last year. | ||
| I think I told you that before. | ||
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Yay! | |
| Welcome aboard. | ||
| They let me in. | ||
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Woo! | |
| After 20 years. | ||
| But so, you know, I got my US flag that I hang from my awning in my videos. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| It's a beautiful thing. | ||
| You're out there. | ||
| And part of what I've been doing with, you know, my photos and my Podcast and my traveling is, I really, part of what it is is I just want to show my little audience at this time that's tuning in, I want to show them how much there is to celebrate in this country. | ||
| It's beautiful out there. | ||
| It's so beautiful. | ||
| It's rare, too. | ||
| People don't go out there, so it's beautiful. | ||
| I can't even believe it. | ||
| So, you know, I'm flying the flag. | ||
| I'm very proud to be an American, right? | ||
| I am very proud to be an American. | ||
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I'm proud to be. | |
| I am. | ||
| And I'm also proud to be Canadian. | ||
| I was getting a little grief. | ||
| Save that. | ||
| Save that. | ||
| You were doing great. | ||
| You'll notice I put a little Canada sticker on them. | ||
| I've said in Canada that I think countries are bullshit. | ||
| I think you guys are basically Northern Americans. | ||
| I got mad. | ||
| I go, we're all North America. | ||
| You go, you're Canada. | ||
| I go, this is no different to me than being from fucking South Dakota. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| We're all humans on Earth. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| You just have a different king. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But no, it's interesting because, you know, everybody on social media has to kind of, you know, if you're putting information out there, you end up now having to deal with getting drawn into this argument, | ||
| which is frustrating to someone like me, because, you know, I just want to Take some cool pictures and tell some jokes and have some fun, and all of a sudden, oh, I said something that indicated I believe this or that, and everyone's mad at you. | ||
| So, I mean, I find it pretty incredible how you've found a way of navigating that. | ||
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Well, I don't know how I did it. | |
| I think being honest is one of them. | ||
| And then also, I don't believe in the two sides. | ||
| I share a lot of opinions from both sides. | ||
| I do not have an ideology that is neatly tucked into the left or the right. | ||
| Well, didn't you endorse Bernie? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love all of his ideas about helping community. | ||
| And I think this is a problem. | ||
| This is a problem that people that think of themselves as right-wing, they don't want to look at the good aspects of someone from the left. | ||
| Someone from the left like Bernie, first of all, he wants to absolve people of student debt. | ||
| I think if it's possible to spend trillions of dollars in these never-ending wars, it's also possible to absolve people's student debt. | ||
| I think getting people in debt for hundreds of thousands of dollars when you're fucking 17 is crazy. | ||
| When I was 17, I was a wild person. | ||
| I was barely a man. | ||
| I was crazy. | ||
| And for 17, 18 years old, to have a person like me and give them, saddle them down with hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt that's going to follow them to their grave is crazy. | ||
| And that's a giant... | ||
| Percentage of our population, I don't know what it is, but millions of people are saddled down with that kind of debt. | ||
| It's too much money, and it's crazy, and it doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Education could be something that we make for free. | ||
| I think we can use our tax money in better ways that benefit the community as a whole, and I think one of them is by giving people the access to education where it doesn't cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. | ||
| And I think we could do that. | ||
| That's what it's like in Canada. | ||
| That is a left-wing perspective, right? | ||
| But I also like guns. | ||
| And I think you should have guns. | ||
| And I think I'm a firm supporter of the Second Amendment. | ||
| Because I know crazy people. | ||
| And there's people that are bad people. | ||
| They're violent and they're broken and they want to hurt other people. | ||
| And I think you should be able to protect your family. | ||
| And I think you should be able to protect the loved ones that you have nearby you. | ||
| And this is a real situation that comes up. | ||
| We wish it didn't. | ||
| Everybody that has a gun hopes they go to their grave and never have to pull the trigger on a person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But guess what? | ||
| Better to have it and not to need it than to need it and not to have it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Now, we can pretend all day that the world's a perfect place and you're never going to need a gun, but you and I both know that's horseshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So that's an opinion I share on the right. | ||
| I'm a firm believer in the Second Amendment. | ||
| And then you get the First Amendment. | ||
| I would think freedom of expression and freedom of speech is one of the most liberal core tenets that you could ever ascribe to that side. | ||
| Like, the left has always been... | ||
| Pro-First Amendment, the ACLU, literally started out defending fucking Nazis, right? | ||
| Like saying that you have to defend everyone's ability to express themselves, even if their beliefs are abhorrent. | ||
| Even if they're the most disgusting beliefs in the world. | ||
| Your ability to express yourself should be a part of being an American. | ||
| And the way we combat bad speech is not by silencing people, it's by better speech and more speech. | ||
| And that's how we've figured out the way human beings interact with each other from the jump, from the beginning of this country. | ||
| And so that right there is... | ||
| Sort of like what we were talking about earlier when we were talking about how you had the confidence and autonomy with your show to do what you want to do and what you believe. | ||
| Politically, that's what you've also done too. | ||
| You like this, you like that. | ||
| These are things that are on opposite ends. | ||
| Why do these issues get divided, so clearly divided, where it's like, well, I can't want healthcare and a shotgun? | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| I kind of like not having to worry about getting sick, and also I want to go hunting. | ||
| I mean, what's the fucking deal? | ||
| You know, I can't. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| I couldn't agree with you more. | ||
| And because you had the confidence and autonomy to be able to just say it because you didn't have all those people around with the clipboards and shit saying, well, we better not say that because we're on this channel or that channel and this is our message here. | ||
| That's a lot of it, right? | ||
| It's also that I don't need a job. | ||
| I think one of the things, and you can speak to this, right? | ||
| When you're working in Hollywood, you're always wanting to make sure that you're not saying anything that's going to exclude you from being hired. | ||
| If you want to work in television, you must be liberal. | ||
| You must. | ||
| Or you keep your fucking mouth shut. | ||
| If you want to get a job on television, you can't be a right-wing pundit on the side and also work on a sitcom. | ||
| They don't want you. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or can you be down the middle, though? | ||
| Like, you're down the middle, right? | ||
| You're not a right-wing pundit. | ||
| You're not a left-wing guy. | ||
| Can you be down the middle? | ||
| Maybe, but even then, they'll be upset at you. | ||
| So even if you say one thing that is contrary to what they believe, and then you're in trouble as well. | ||
| You can be. | ||
| Yeah, you can be. | ||
| I mean, it really depends on how... | ||
| How open-minded the people, and how desperate the people are that are hiring you. | ||
| People get desperate. | ||
| They get panicky. | ||
| They feel like people get attacked for almost nothing, and then they fire them because they don't want blowback. | ||
| This is a big part of the whole Hollywood experience now. | ||
| It wasn't Natalie Portman. | ||
| Who was the actress that got in trouble because she played in Witches? | ||
| They were mad at her because she played a witch with three fingers. | ||
| Like literally, who is it? | ||
| It's a new movie. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| She apologized. | ||
| She literally had to apologize. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Anne Hathaway, thank you. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because... | ||
| Because she played... | ||
| It's in the book. | ||
| The original book. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Described this witch. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Anne Hathaway apologizes for a portrayal of limb difference. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anne Hathaway has issued an apology for the pain caused to people with limb differences by her character in HBO Max movie The Witches. | ||
| Based on the Roald Dahl adaptation, Hathaway portrays the evil Grant High Witch who has three fingers on each hand that resemble the congenital disorder... | ||
| I don't know what that is. | ||
| It's a hard word. | ||
| It's an impossible word to say. | ||
| Ectrodactyly? | ||
| Is that it, Jim? | ||
| That word is impossible to say. | ||
| They need to come up with an easier word for that. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| People are looking for things to be offended by. | ||
| Yeah, listen. | ||
| Anne Hathaway should have said... | ||
| I played a witch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That witch had three fingers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, no offense to you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No need to apologize. | ||
| And if you want an apology from that, you're probably a fucking asshole. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, I'm sorry if you have three fingers. | ||
| I mean, I'm sorry if you have a disease that resembles that. | ||
| There may be some benefits to that, too. | ||
| I don't know what they would be, but... | ||
| What would they be? | ||
| So that was... | ||
| We could probably try to come up with some funny benefits, too. | ||
| That's her character, Jamie? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Listen, I sort of understand what it's like when you have something like that, you know, because I have one testicle, right? | ||
| So, you know, people will sometimes, like, make a joke about that, and I'll go, I'll feel like, oh, you know, sorry. | ||
| Because you have one testicle. | ||
| Yeah, because I had the testicular cancer, right? | ||
| And then someone will make a joke about, ah, you know. | ||
| And then I'll be like, oh, geez. | ||
| It's not that fun having surgery and having one of your testicles. | ||
| Sorry, I'm not trying to bring the mood down here, Joe. | ||
| But I'm just saying, so it's like what happens now is the internet sort of now, one person with three fingers is obviously saddened by that. | ||
| It might not even be real. | ||
| It might be someone looks at her and goes, you know what? | ||
| I think she should apologize for people that don't have all their fingers! | ||
| And they get mad. | ||
| It might be someone with five fingers that's saying this. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Someone with five fingers assumes the three-fingered person is offended, tweets it, and then the people with the clipboards at the office have to react. | ||
| We're going to get cancelled! | ||
| There's a retraction statement from Anne Hathaway. | ||
| Meanwhile, it's actually probably... | ||
| Good for the movie. | ||
| I heard about it from my mom because my mom recommended it to my daughter. | ||
| She's like, I think they would enjoy this movie. | ||
| Now, if they'd just given her 17 fingers or like 10 fingers, no one's got that, so no one would have been offended. | ||
| That would have been weird anyways. | ||
| Like a garden rake. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ten fingers on each hand. | ||
| No one's offended. | ||
| There's no condition where you've got ten fingers on each hand. | ||
| It's too few that people get upset. | ||
| And now, are we going to get in trouble for sort of giggling about this? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What if you have three arms on each side? | ||
| Would people who worship Shiva get upset at you? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Which is very... | ||
| I love the presence of all of this. | ||
| Ganesh, remover of obstacles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What's up, Jamie? | ||
| I'm reading an article talking to someone that seems like they were on the upset side. | ||
| It says that it seems like they're more mad that the character has this disability and they're also a villain. | ||
| Not just that they have the disability. | ||
| It's that they made them bad. | ||
| Well, isn't the character, like, not a human? | ||
| It's a witch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They have fucked up teeth and they're bald and people are mad that they're bald also. | ||
| Oh, me too. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| I'm mad now. | ||
| I'm bald. | ||
| I'm pissed. | ||
| I don't like when people make fun of bald people, Tom. | ||
| It's not right. | ||
|
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Oh, really? | |
| It's rude. | ||
| I am bald and I am mad. | ||
| Anne Hathaway's bald in that movie? | ||
| Fuck her. | ||
| You think it's funny being bald? | ||
| Do you get mad about it? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| You don't give a fuck? | ||
| No. | ||
| I have a good-shaped head. | ||
| I'm super lucky. | ||
| I don't have a flat back of my head. | ||
| She's kind of hot as a bald chick. | ||
| I dated a bald chick when I first moved to LA. She was a singer from Norway. | ||
| You got a good bald head, though. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Not everybody does. | ||
| Not everybody does. | ||
| There's a lot of people with weird heads. | ||
| You got a good bald head. | ||
| It's almost like... | ||
| It's supposed to be bald. | ||
| It's almost, if you had a full head of hair, you'd almost be better off to shave it. | ||
| Oh, I tell you right now. | ||
| Did you ever think about when you had purple? | ||
| You know, I should just shave it. | ||
| It looks better bald. | ||
| Well, I do think that back when I was really freaking out that I was losing my hair, I should have shaved my head early on. | ||
| But I was really worried that I would never get work. | ||
| Did you freak out when? | ||
| Yeah, I got hair transplants. | ||
| I used Minoxidil. | ||
| I did the whole thing. | ||
| I have a stupid scar in the back of my head, like a big smile from hair transplants from the 90s. | ||
| Because I was all of a sudden working, and I was like, oh my god, my hair's falling out. | ||
| Fuck, what am I going to do? | ||
| And I was thinking, I've got to do everything I can to keep working, because all of a sudden I was making all this money I was never making before. | ||
| I was on television. | ||
| You need that TV hair. | ||
| Yeah, you need TV hair. | ||
| And then once I shaved my head, I was like, oh my god, this is the best thing ever. | ||
| Like, I don't have to ever go to a barber. | ||
| I just, every couple days, they go... | ||
| I hit it with the buzzers, and then I'm good. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Well, mine's thinning, you know. | ||
| You gonna shave that bitch? | ||
| What are you gonna do? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's getting a little crazy. | ||
| But you kind of look good as like a wild, crazy man with the hair all fucked up. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like your hair like that. | ||
| It's getting a little crazy. | ||
| You can like get by with your hair all fucked up. | ||
| You look good with like as a guy who has like a sock hat who takes it off and steps into the restaurant on a cold day and sits near the fireplace with all fucked up hair. | ||
| It's kind of good. | ||
| It works. | ||
| I like having the headphones on. | ||
| I made a choice not to put them on earlier because I thought, oh... | ||
| Well, you had your cowboy hat on. | ||
| Yeah, but this is... | ||
| I like this. | ||
| It locks you in. | ||
| People always say, well, you're right across from someone. | ||
| Why do you wear headphones? | ||
| The reason why is that it locks you 100% in the conversation and you're really aware of talking over each other, which everyone has a tendency to do. | ||
| I was conscious of it, but I've done enough of this over the years. | ||
| I knew to play the mic right, but I was missing this part of it. | ||
| Yeah, you know, when people don't want to wear the headphones, I'm always like, hmm, okay. | ||
| I did want to wear them, but I also didn't want to take off my cowboy hat right away. | ||
| It's a beautiful hat. | ||
| Because we're in Austin. | ||
| We're in Texas. | ||
| And you've been wearing that around. | ||
| I saw your videos. | ||
| See this dust on it, you know? | ||
|
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It's my dusty hat. | |
| It's real dust. | ||
| You earned it. | ||
| I got this at the Stetson factory about five years ago, and it's a real Texas hat, so I wanted to... | ||
| It's a John B. Stetson. | ||
| It's a real deal. | ||
| I debated not wearing it when I came in, because I thought, oh, I'm walking with a f***ing cowboy hat on. | ||
| But then I thought, you know, shit, we're in Austin. | ||
| I've got to honor your move to Austin. | ||
| We're my frigging Stetson, goddammit. | ||
| Cheers, my friend. | ||
| Excuse my language. | ||
|
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Sorry. | |
| $13 Silver Dollars by Colter Wall. | ||
| Talks about having a John B. Stetson. | ||
| Wakes up in the snow in a ditch. | ||
| I got my health, my John B. Stetson. | ||
| Got me a bottle full of baby's bluebird wine. | ||
| And I left my stash somewhere down in Preston, along with 13 silver dollars in my mind. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| You ever heard of Colter Wall? | ||
| I have not. | ||
| We'll play some after the show. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He's Canadian. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jamie turned me on to him. | ||
| Jamie is my source because I'm an old man and Jamie's a younger man. | ||
| Jamie turns me on to good music. | ||
| Oh, Colter Wall, it's a singer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it was beautiful. | ||
| Poetry. | ||
| I thought it was a poet or... | ||
| Dude, he's a guy that... | ||
| Like a Leonard Cohen, who's also Canadian. | ||
| He was 21, and he has this song called Kate McKinnon, and you listen to it, and you would swear to God, it is an 80-year-old man who's been drinking and smoking his whole life. | ||
| It literally doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Like, you hear the song, and you're like, what the fuck? | ||
| I wish we could play it. | ||
| That's him. | ||
| Oh, young guy, huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, young as fuck. | ||
| Oh, okay, okay, cool, cool. | ||
| Wanna hear something crazy? | ||
| I feel better about not having heard of him. | ||
| I thought he was like some classic Canadian artist that has been around for a hundred years. | ||
|
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Oh, no, no, no. | |
| How did that... | ||
| But now I'm glad that you're showing me this guy. | ||
| Wanna hear how authentic this cat is? | ||
|
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I love this. | |
| We tried to get him on the show. | ||
| We contacted his agent. | ||
| This is what the agent said. | ||
| He works as a ranch hand in Texas. | ||
| Over the summer. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| And when he's done, we'll get a hold of you. | ||
| I bet he's from Calgary. | ||
| He's from Alberta. | ||
| Alberta, yeah. | ||
| Calgary, Alberta. | ||
| Because that's where we got... | ||
| Alberta, Canada's like the Texas of Canada, right? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| We've got this Calgary Stampede. | ||
| And so I was right. | ||
| Yeah, he's a cowboy. | ||
| A Canadian cowboy. | ||
| Shout out to my friend John and Jen. | ||
| My friends John and Jen live up there. | ||
| Yeah, Alberta. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| I love Alberta. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Saskatchewan. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| He's from Swift Current. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| I'm from Swift Current, Saskatchewan. | ||
| He's only 25 now. | ||
| My grandparents met in Swift Current, Saskatchewan on my father's side. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| It's a tiny little place. | ||
| How'd they meet? | ||
| I don't know that story. | ||
| I think everybody knew everybody in Swift Current. | ||
| Back in the... | ||
| It was probably 20 people living there at the time. | ||
| So this guy comes down to Texas in the summer and he works as a ranch hand all summer. | ||
| And they're like, he's not going to be done anytime soon. | ||
| This is literally like you try to get in touch with him for publicity. | ||
| We were blowing him up. | ||
| I blew him up on Instagram. | ||
| When Donald Trump asked me... | ||
| To host a podcast with him and Joe Biden. | ||
| I put it on my Instagram with his tweet and Coulter Wall's lyrics for The Devil Wears a Suit and Tie. | ||
| I put a quote from one of his lyrics and I just threw it up there. | ||
| Oh, it was his lyric. | ||
| Left it right there, yeah. | ||
| Just so people would listen to the song. | ||
| So when an up-and-coming artist... | ||
| Is he an up-and-coming artist? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| When an up-and-coming artist says they can't come on... | ||
| The Joe Rogan Experience, the biggest podcast in all of the world. | ||
| That must just make you want him to come on this show so much more. | ||
|
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No! | |
| That must make you like him so much more, though. | ||
| I appreciate him. | ||
| Man, he's got the same fucking... | ||
| I love his music, but I love authenticity. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| So if that's who he is... | ||
| He's literally a ranch hand. | ||
| He doesn't have time. | ||
| He's tending to the cattle. | ||
| Like, look, whenever he wants to, he can come here. | ||
| This is like, yeah, come on. | ||
| Have some more, baby. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Like, Dave Chappelle came on yesterday. | ||
| Dave Chappelle and I have been friends since... | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| ...1990. | ||
| Dave was here yesterday? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I've never met Dave Chappelle. | ||
| But he's always like, Joe, eventually, I'm gonna come on your show. | ||
|
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Eventually! | |
| Was that the first time he was on? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he came on because Donnell was here and he just dropped in and hung out for, what was it, like an hour? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then we're eventually... | ||
| I shouldn't probably say this on the show, but I'm gonna anyway because we've been drinking. | ||
| Dave and I are gonna do a residence here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, we're gonna do a bunch of shows here. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Could I do a spot? | ||
| Could I come and do five minutes or something? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| I would love to do that. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| I've never met Dave. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| You'd love him. | ||
| I'd love to meet him. | ||
| He's super genuine. | ||
| He's as genuine as it gets. | ||
| He's right there. | ||
| There's no bullshit with him. | ||
| He's right there. | ||
| He's right there with you. | ||
| But that's the same thing. | ||
| I'm like, whenever you're ready, I'm here. | ||
| The Kanye West thing, it was almost the opposite. | ||
| I was like, I like him too much. | ||
| I don't want to fuck him up. | ||
| I don't want him to... | ||
| Like, he was like... | ||
| The first time he wanted to come on the podcast, he was recently unmedicated. | ||
| Like, he had done this concert where he said he supported Donald Trump, and everybody booed him, and the next thing you know, he's in a mental institution. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| He was on... | ||
| That's concert. | ||
| There was a video of him at this big stadium concert. | ||
| A while after that... | ||
| He said he wanted to talk about things, but nobody wanted to do it. | ||
| Or people were afraid to have him on. | ||
| And I said, I put on Twitter, I'd be willing to have you on, and we could talk about whatever you want for as long as you want to. | ||
| And then it became this giant thing. | ||
| And then him and I had a conversation on the phone, and I really enjoyed talking to him. | ||
| But my hesitation was purely that I didn't want to fuck him over. | ||
| Because I do think he's... | ||
| I mean, for lack of a better term, I think he's a special person. | ||
| I think he's a... | ||
| There's a rare diamond, right? | ||
| It's hard to make a Kanye West. | ||
| There's a few people that I know like that. | ||
| Like Joey Diaz. | ||
| It's hard to make a Joey Diaz. | ||
| You don't get a lot of Joey Diazes in this life. | ||
| You get one or two, ever. | ||
| And when I see a person like Kanye, and I see how sensitive he is, and I see all these people that are trying to chop him down all the time, and I made fun of his fucking sneakers. | ||
| I mean, Jamie gave me a pair of Yeezys, and I was making fun of him. | ||
| But I make fun of everything. | ||
| I make fun of me, too. | ||
| But I was like, I don't want this guy to have a bad time. | ||
| So I resisted having him on. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, even though I knew it would be... | ||
| A big show, like, ratings-wise. | ||
| I'm like, I don't want this guy to say something where people get mad at him. | ||
| And I would rather him just making music. | ||
| And I really got into his music, like, pretty deep after. | ||
| I mean, I always loved his shit. | ||
| Like, Gold Digger's a classic. | ||
| I always love a lot of his shit all day. | ||
| He's got some classic shit, right? | ||
| But after he did... | ||
| After he and I had that conversation, I really got into it. | ||
| And I was like, man, I don't want anything... | ||
| I don't want this to be negative. | ||
| And then I started getting messages from his people. | ||
| And even some of his people actually got in contact with my wife. | ||
| And they're like, we don't want Kanye to say anything crazy and having it ruin him. | ||
| And I was like, let's just leave it alone. | ||
| Is your wife involved with producing the show? | ||
|
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No. | |
| Zero. | ||
| How'd they get in contact with him? | ||
| She knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody. | ||
| It's like a multi-chain step. | ||
| But I was like, alright, let's just leave it alone. | ||
| I'm just going to enjoy his music. | ||
| I'm like, just let Kanye be Kanye. | ||
| And then when he was running for president, and then... | ||
| And then he reached out to me a bunch, and I'm like, alright, let's just do it. | ||
| And then he and I had a conversation on the phone, and he sounded super stable and creative. | ||
| Well, I think you accomplished what you set out to do, because I thought he was... | ||
| I felt that I saw a side of him that I've never seen because he really was able to have the time and space to say what was on his mind. | ||
| He seemed to be in a very good place on your show. | ||
| I've seen him on TMZ and stuff, kind of scattered, but he was great. | ||
| And I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I think he knows that I respect him, too. | ||
| So he felt comfortable. | ||
| Sometimes you see he's got a little bit of a wall up. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He's waiting for this... | ||
| Attack. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Right. | ||
| He knew there's no attack coming from me. | ||
| So I think that helped. | ||
| He knows I love his music. | ||
| And he knows I think he's a unique human. | ||
| He's a unique human. | ||
|
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There's not a lot of people. | |
| You love hip-hop, right? | ||
| I love hip-hop. | ||
| Because I saw you tweeted something about Gangstar recently. | ||
| Love Gangstar. | ||
| I'm like, Gangstar? | ||
| Dude, man. | ||
|
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Oh, my God. | |
| I didn't know Joe, like, Gangstar. | ||
| Oh, my God, yeah. | ||
| Because, you know, when I was a kid, I was a rapper, and I made rap music and stuff, and I made beats. | ||
| I still make beats, but... | ||
| I like just doing it, but Grankstar, man, that was like Guru stepping the arena. | ||
| I was so bummed out when Guru died. | ||
| That was a bummer. | ||
| But I'm a big fan of DJ Premier. | ||
| I'm a big fan of a lot of that East Coast, early hip-hop. | ||
| There's so much good shit from there. | ||
| His beats are like that boom-bap hip-hop. | ||
| Well, there's a grittiness to East Coast early hip, like Cool G Rap. | ||
| Yeah, Streets of New York. | ||
| Yeah, Giant Fan. | ||
| The Streets of New York. | ||
| Occasionally, I'll listen to that song, Cock Blockin'. | ||
| Cool G Rap, Cock Blockin'. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Some great fucking songs, man. | ||
| Streets of New York, man. | ||
| That's a great song. | ||
| I love East Coast hip-hop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tribe Called Quest. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Low End Theory is my favorite album of all time. | ||
| If anyone ever asks me what's my favorite album of all time, I say The Low End Theory, Tribe Called Quest. | ||
| If I had to pick one rapper that I'm... | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| Biggie is pretty top on the list, but also Nas. | ||
| There's something about Nas' lyrics. | ||
| Nas has the best lyrics. | ||
| Nas' lyrics. | ||
| I'll go back over his lyrics. | ||
| Like that Rewind song where he does the whole story backwards. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| He's so creative. | ||
| And his lyrics are... | ||
| His dad was a jazz musician... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I think that's true. | ||
| Jazz or blues? | ||
| His dad was a musician. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Like a professional, well-respected musician. | ||
| And Nas sort of, I think, sort of embodied that ethos and put it into hip-hop. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Because, like, one thing I remember from Mo' Better Blues, you remember that movie? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Spike Lee movie? | ||
| I remember being, like, real... | ||
| When Denzel Washington was like, he wouldn't even fuck his girlfriend because he had to practice, I was like, wow, that's dedication. | ||
| And I remember thinking, the dedication that a blues musician has, or a jazz musician has, where they're just constantly practicing their instrument, is so much different than a stand-up. | ||
| Or the same. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or very similar, too. | ||
| I sometimes think stand-up, I mean... | ||
| But so much of us are fuck-ups. | ||
| Sort of like jazz, right? | ||
| Yeah, but fuck-ups in that we don't practice like they do. | ||
| They'll practice for hours and hours every day. | ||
| You getting up on stage every night, man, that's practicing, man. | ||
| Yeah, but you should practice before you get up on stage. | ||
| Most comics don't. | ||
| Yeah, well, how are you going to do it? | ||
| Sitting in front of the mirror, tell jokes? | ||
| Writing. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Writing, going over your nose. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But I mean, I'm just saying, you know, I feel like, because I feel like I mean, what do I know? | ||
| But, like, you know... | ||
| You know, it's the space between the notes, right? | ||
| That's what they talk about with jazz, right? | ||
| The space between the notes. | ||
| You did a COVID test today, right? | ||
| That's the same thing... | ||
| Yeah, we both did, bro. | ||
| That's the same thing with stand-up. | ||
| It's the space between the jokes, even. | ||
| It's the space between the ideas. | ||
| Like stand-up is the thing that requires a lack of discipline sometimes. | ||
| Like stand-up is not just – it's like jazz and any time you're playing a musical instrument, you must be proficient in that instrument. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| What is that? | ||
|
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Marijuana. | |
| No, but I mean what? | ||
| It comes from Dono Rawlings. | ||
| That's some good shit, man. | ||
| That's good shit, right? | ||
| That's good for now. | ||
| I'm going to monitor that hit. | ||
| Good call. | ||
| Stand-up requires almost a lack of discipline to be wild enough to say some of the shit that we said. | ||
| But also, discipline to go over your notes. | ||
| Discipline to look at all these ideas and try to structure them in a way that's going to resonate with the audience. | ||
| And then also discipline to think about the set and what went wrong, what went right, and try to reevaluate. | ||
| So the words in stand-up and the ideas, that's where your fingers are on the piano, right? | ||
| That's the technical side. | ||
| And then the spaces... | ||
| Between the words and the rhythm and the timing with the audience, that's where... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also your head, right? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Like where your head's at. | ||
| Because I, you know, like, I mean, again, like I've had a, you know, I've enjoyed making music over the years. | ||
| I wouldn't say that I'm that good at it, but I definitely love doing it. | ||
| And you can pull up my video from 1992 of when I was a kid in Canada. | ||
| I made a rap album. | ||
| And to me, it was like... | ||
| I love this. | ||
| It was sort of like the technology. | ||
| I got a sampler. | ||
| I worked all summer mowing lawns so I could buy a sampler, a used sampler. | ||
| And then I started sampling records, listening to Gangstar. | ||
| and like I want to try to do that you know and and so oh so but you know man like yeah there this is that's me in the red jacket when I was 18 years old and And, you know, this was our album. | ||
| That's 1990... | ||
| 1991. That's been the Yellow Jacket. | ||
| Look how skinny I am. | ||
| 1 18th of a megapixel camera. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, it's a bad upload. | ||
| We actually shot it. | ||
| It's a shot on film, actually. | ||
| That was shot on 16mm film on a Steadicam. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're me in the grocery store. | ||
| Are you friends with these guys anymore? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Greg Campbell is the other MC. He's a great rapper. | ||
| What's he doing now? | ||
| He is in Ottawa, and he's actually killing it as a real estate agent up there, and he's doing a great job. | ||
| He really is killing it. | ||
| Mr. Big Stuff, he called himself after. | ||
| He's an incredible rapper, actually. | ||
| Does he call himself Mr. Big Stuff when he's selling houses? | ||
| He should, man. | ||
| That's a good idea. | ||
| Show up with a clock on your neck. | ||
| He still has... | ||
| I'd like you to meet Greg someday, man. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| He's still got an incredible energy about him, and I feel like in a lot of ways, I learned a lot from him. | ||
| We were kids, you know? | ||
| But we met in high school. | ||
| We were skateboarders. | ||
| And he was the other skateboarder of my school. | ||
| He's a couple years younger than me. | ||
| Like, he's like... | ||
| And when we were like... | ||
| When I was 17 and he was 15, we went to New York and made a goofy record. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And he's got... | ||
| There we are. | ||
| That's Greg on the right. | ||
| And that's my... | ||
| Jordy Ferguson, who I've had in Tuck, Tuck, Tuck. | ||
| He was our DJ in the middle. | ||
| But Greg on the right in the glasses. | ||
|
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Where are you? | |
| Hilarious. | ||
| That's me on the left. | ||
| Bones. | ||
| Cut the fuck out of here. | ||
| That's not you. | ||
| Let me see your face. | ||
| Look at me. | ||
| Barely you. | ||
| See, it says Bones on my hat. | ||
| That's because that's from Powell Peralta Skateboards. | ||
| But I was Bones, MC Bones, because I was skinny. | ||
| Bones, rocking the microphone. | ||
| I'm like a king on the throne, only thing is I stand alone. | ||
| You know what I'm saying, Joe? | ||
| I do understand. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| This was our pizza commercial we did. | ||
| We did a local pizza commercial. | ||
| You can play that. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Is the pizza company still around? | ||
| It was for a grocery store chain called Loeb. | ||
| You can play this video. | ||
| Can you play with the music? | ||
| We rapped in it. | ||
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Yeah, check this out Do you do the pizza commercial as a rapper? | |
| Look at me, 19. Did that kid really need glasses or was that a prop? | ||
| I don't think that was me. | ||
| That kid right there. | ||
| Where? | ||
| The other one. | ||
| Right there with the glasses. | ||
|
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Oh, Greg. | |
| No, no. | ||
| Greg needed glasses, yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Those were real glasses. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I really distrust people with fake glasses. | ||
| We keep it real, man. | ||
| We keep it real. | ||
| Organized, man. | ||
| We keep it real. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| If you found someone that was wearing fake glasses, they weren't glasses, but they weren't prescription. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Wouldn't you get a little uneasy? | ||
| They're trying to be like John Lennon or something. | ||
| I don't know why I would get uneasy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why? | ||
| I require glasses now for reading. | ||
| Oh, do you really? | ||
| That started three or four years ago. | ||
| And I know how it started. | ||
| How old are you? | ||
| I am... | ||
| Guess. | ||
| 30. No. | ||
| 12. I'm bad at this. | ||
| I'm 49. Wow, you look great, dude. | ||
| No. | ||
| You do. | ||
| That's very nice of you. | ||
| Everyone online tells me I look old. | ||
| Look how fucking old he looks now. | ||
| Stop reading comments. | ||
| Look how fucking old he looks now. | ||
| Listen, if I was 20, I'd say that shit too. | ||
| This guy looks old as fuck. | ||
| But as an actual person that's near your age, I think you look great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| You look great, too. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| How did we get to this? | ||
| What were we talking about right before that? | ||
| Well, who was the guy with the glasses? | ||
| Greg had glasses on. | ||
| And so I have glasses now. | ||
| I wore glasses only for reading my phone. | ||
| And I know why my eyes went bad. | ||
| Why? | ||
| And I actually said this the other day in your show. | ||
| You said, make it bigger for my old ass eyes, you said. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I was like, that's what happened to me. | ||
| Yeah, you got old. | ||
| I thought you were going to tell me about something important, like chemical exposure or something. | ||
| I know how it went bad. | ||
|
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I just got old. | |
| No, I do have a thing. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It's a real thing. | ||
| This is what it is. | ||
| When you wake up in the morning and it's still dark, don't look at your phone until you've turned the lights on. | ||
| And that fixes everything? | ||
| No, that's when you damage your eyes. | ||
| Looking at your phone in the dark. | ||
| I felt them break. | ||
| I felt my eyes break. | ||
| Maybe they're lifting weights. | ||
| Maybe your eyes are lifting weights. | ||
| No, it's in the dark. | ||
| The bright light of the dark. | ||
| Pussy ass eyes that are scared of matches. | ||
| I think it's when you look at your phone in the dark is what makes it go. | ||
| Imagine if you looked at difficult... | ||
| Like, the eyes are so much different than a lot of parts of your body. | ||
| Because, like, if you lift difficult things with your legs, you get bigger legs. | ||
| But if you look at too much shit with your eyes, they break. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Right? | ||
| You don't think so? | ||
| Dude, I'm a doctor, basically. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, legitimate... | ||
| No, first of all, they're going to break no matter what, right? | ||
| And part of it is apparently... | ||
| But your legs break down eventually as you get older. | ||
| They're already breaking down. | ||
| But I think it's also like there's a thing about looking at something that's always a certain distance from you on a regular basis over and over and over again. | ||
| I don't think we're supposed to do that. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Especially in the dark. | ||
| When you wake up in the morning and it's dark and there's a bright thing. | ||
| I believe it accentuates the speed at which it's not good for your eyes. | ||
| Because your eyes are exposed. | ||
| In photography, you're exposed for the darkness. | ||
| Your irises are at a certain point. | ||
| And then all of a sudden you hit it with this bright light. | ||
| That's what broke. | ||
| I felt it break. | ||
| I remember the day it went out of focus. | ||
| I was in the morning. | ||
| I was looking at my phone. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't like to be overly optimistic about some shit that I barely understand, but I think that super smart dudes are really on the ball when it comes to vision and therapies for vision deterioration. | ||
| I had a guy, Andrew Huberman, who works on that specifically, and he was talking about they're going to be able to put injections into people's eyes and then – I'm absolutely butchering this – but then do something with virtual reality that actually improves the way your vision is. | ||
| I remember seeing that. | ||
| I don't like the way that it's rewarded, but it seems good. | ||
| Without the laser eye surgery, I haven't had that. | ||
| Scientists have reversed age-related blindness by deliberately infecting the eyes of the virus. | ||
| This is exactly what Huberman was talking about. | ||
| A small... | ||
| And this is from 2017. And preliminary clinical trial has found that injecting a common cold-like virus in the eyes of age-related macular degeneration patients, one of the leading causes of blindness in the U.S., it can halt and even reverse the progression of the disease. | ||
| So it could reverse... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So these people are way smarter than you and I, Tom. | ||
| They're different kind of humans. | ||
| They're out there trying to fix problems with cancer and age and telomere length and mental deterioration and all the things that plague all of us. | ||
| They're out there working on it. | ||
| We're just here talking shit. | ||
| And you're bringing attention to it, Joe. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, but yeah, absolutely. | ||
| But I mean, seriously, that would be... | ||
| I would get that. | ||
| My friend Cam Haynes. | ||
| I would get that injection because I can't stand... | ||
| It's blurry when I look at my phone now. | ||
| It's so annoying. | ||
| Is it blurry when you look at your phone? | ||
| Oh, yeah, for sure. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| I feel better. | ||
| Yeah, if I look at my phone, I can read it right from here. | ||
| I heard you say that on the phone. | ||
| But it's not perfect. | ||
| I heard you say that on the show the other day, Thank you. | ||
| Dude, if I put glasses on, it looks great. | ||
| That's why I have these. | ||
| I was like, oh good. | ||
| Do I look sexy? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| If I put these bitches on... | ||
| I have glasses like that. | ||
| I should go get my glasses out of the van. | ||
| I can see everything. | ||
| Can you put a camera out by the van? | ||
| I'll show you the van. | ||
| My van's here. | ||
| I'm having fun. | ||
| I can't... | ||
| This is... | ||
| First of all, thank you, Joe, for having me. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| My pleasure, brother. | ||
| And thank you for legitimately inspiring me. | ||
| That's not bullshit. | ||
| Your show was one of the first things that I ever did where I thought, oh my god, you could do this on your own. | ||
| When I went to your house and you had these wires going through your living room, and then you had a server room, and me and Red Band were like, holy shit, dude. | ||
| What's up, Red Band? | ||
| Part of what got me interested in doing a podcast was going to your spot. | ||
| Thank you for the inspiration, my friend. | ||
| Please, thank you. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| I think we're all in this together, man, but you, no doubt, without any question, you helped me a lot. | ||
| Because you gave me a thought that I didn't really have before, that some guy could be so ahead of the curve that, I mean, you were doing this in like 2000 and like, what, four? | ||
| What were you doing? | ||
| You have given me the inspiration of saying, oh shit, it actually could work. | ||
| It works. | ||
| It does work. | ||
| Joe fucking did it. | ||
| Yeah, but I got the idea. | ||
| A lot of it was from you and the rest of it was from Opie and Anthony. | ||
| You know, I think you're inspiring so many people because the thing is, that's the hardest part about being creative or being an artist or whatever you want to call it. | ||
| A comedian, a writer, a musician, all these things, right? | ||
| You dream something. | ||
| So... | ||
| The idea of not quitting, right? | ||
| That's like really the thing because everybody kind of sort of second guesses himself and says, okay, maybe I shouldn't just be doing this, you know? | ||
| I'm mentally ill, Tom Green. | ||
| I don't let things go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's beautiful though, man, because it's great to see. | ||
| I mean, here we are in, first of all, the UFO studio, which I love, and I wanted to ask you some questions about it. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| What is the inspiration for this incredible... | ||
| Chinese restaurants. | ||
| No disrespect. | ||
|
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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. | |
| Love Chinese restaurants. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| I actually didn't even notice that until now. | ||
| I'm joking. | ||
| I hope people don't get mad at me for that. | ||
| No, they won't. | ||
| I love Chinese restaurants. | ||
| It does feel like that. | ||
| It's not negative. | ||
|
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No, it's great. | |
| No, honestly, this was the whole idea behind it. | ||
| Matt Alvarez, who's the guy who built it, and I, we were thinking of what to do with the space. | ||
| There was a circular space like this. | ||
| The shape of the space is already there. | ||
| And I was like, that'd be kind of cool to have a podcast in there. | ||
| And then we found out that they have these sound panels that look like this. | ||
| And you can make them in different designs. | ||
| You can choose what designs you get. | ||
| I'm like, oh, those would be kind of dope as things on the wall. | ||
| And we just put it together. | ||
| And he did it all within five or six weeks of the time we decided we were going to move here. | ||
| So it happened so quick. | ||
| So what he's done, you know, with all this design and everything is we just ran with it, you know? | ||
| It wasn't anything that was thought out. | ||
| People are like, God, it's weird in there. | ||
| Like, yeah, I get it. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| But this is not the end. | ||
| This is what I needed to get in here. | ||
| This is like... | ||
| Think of this as a spaceship that takes us from the LA podcast studio to the Texas podcast studio. | ||
| The Texas podcast studio is under construction currently. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when all that's... | ||
| This is our spaceship. | ||
| Wait, wait. | ||
| This is not the Texas podcast studio? | ||
| We're in a spaceship. | ||
| We've traveled from one podcast studio through this spaceship into the next podcast. | ||
| Oh, so this is not the studio. | ||
| This is not the ultimate destination. | ||
| Oh, we're not in the studio. | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| This is the spaceship leading us from one studio to the next. | ||
| I thought I was in the studio. | ||
| So there's a new studio coming. | ||
| New studio coming. | ||
| When's that going to be? | ||
| When Odin blesses us with his praise. | ||
|
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Oh. | |
| We have to wait. | ||
| No one's bringing back Odin. | ||
| Imagine if you wanted to bring back Greek gods. | ||
| You're like, let's just go back to the classics, guys. | ||
| Thor! | ||
| Athena! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| If this is the spaceship and the new studio, is it going to be in a closed environment like this? | ||
| This is kind of really interesting to me. | ||
| Do you like it better? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Now that I'm sitting here, before I might have said, you know, well, you could, you know, he's Joe fucking Rogan. | ||
| He could have as much space as he wants, but he could put himself in a big, big, giant thing, Coliseum kind of place with background, deep, deep background. | ||
| You could have like, but the thing is like, no, because I always think about depth in photography. | ||
| I think about depth, but then when you, as far as the experience, when you're in an intimate conversation with one person for an hour, you're sitting there going, oh, we're going to talk to each other for an hour. | ||
| It's kind of a nice feeling like there's not people back far in the distance. | ||
| I think it creates an interesting environment. | ||
| Just acoustically, it's really cool. | ||
| Acoustically, it's nice. | ||
| That's what I have to say about that. | ||
| There's less space, which makes us somehow or another more intimate with the same amount of distance between each other. | ||
| So is it going to be an enclosed space, or is it going to be a larger room? | ||
| Both would be good, by the way. | ||
| Split the difference. | ||
| It's going to split the difference, I think, between this one and the old one. | ||
| But just be more normal, I think. | ||
| Less distracting, you know. | ||
| This is awesome. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I like it too. | ||
| But I don't know if it's necessarily perfect. | ||
| It's just fun. | ||
| It's fun to be able to make... | ||
| I'm not a big designer, but it's fun to just do different shit. | ||
| It'd be fun to have a green screen behind me and be in space every day. | ||
| Different galaxies floating behind me. | ||
| We could do a lot of shit. | ||
| So what is that that you think that it is that it is in people where we drive ourselves to kind of create this vision we have in our mind, you know? | ||
| You have a vision in your mind. | ||
| This is not even the end of the vision. | ||
| This is the beginning of the new vision, right? | ||
| This is not even the studio. | ||
| I thought it was in the studio. | ||
| It's a spaceship. | ||
| It's just a spaceship. | ||
| This is the first time anyone's hearing this because it's the first time I've ever said it because it's the first time I thought of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There is no other studio. | ||
| This is the next studio that's taking us to the next studio. | ||
| There is going to be another studio. | ||
| This really is a spaceship. | ||
| If you could look at it, that would be a metaphor. | ||
| Is that a metaphor, technically? | ||
| Now, and listen, I'm not going to ask any more questions about the new studio because I want to do... | ||
| Well, it's just different shit, man. | ||
| I want to do a bunch of different things, but I do want to do some where it's a room that's 100% green screen. | ||
| And I want to figure out what we have to do to be in space. | ||
| I want to do a conversation in space. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So one of the rooms I want to do, I want to do a full circular green screen. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Can you start that again? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You want to do an interview in space? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Do a room where, say, like you and I, Tom Green, Joe Rogan, sitting at a bar table, a circular bar table, you and I would just hang in talking to each other, just two microphones, very intimate. | ||
| Behind us, all green screen, in space. | ||
| So when you see the podcast, it's just us in space. | ||
| So that's what... | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Is that really where it's going? | ||
| The problem would be you wouldn't see that it's in space. | ||
| You would just see green, right? | ||
| Would that be weird? | ||
| We can do that. | ||
| Well, what I'm saying... | ||
| Yeah, we can do that, right? | ||
| I think I told you about we could do what you're saying just so it's not green screen. | ||
|
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No, no, no, no, no, no. | |
| What would it be? | ||
| It's actually there. | ||
| No, I think I just... | ||
| I think I thought of it. | ||
| It's like projected around you. | ||
| I think I thought of an idea. | ||
| Is that better? | ||
| Yeah, it's better? | ||
| It's not cheaper, but it's better. | ||
| Just paint this room green. | ||
| You could do that. | ||
| Just spray paint this room green. | ||
| Yeah, you could do that. | ||
| So you could have it like green, so you can do that, but also you have the intimacy of the clothes. | ||
| Like Anthony Cumia from Opie and Anthony, his whole thing is green screen, right? | ||
| He does like green... | ||
| You didn't go with me? | ||
| He has a setup where, if you go to his channel, go to see if there's a clip of him, it looks like he's in front of a window that overlooks this spectacular... | ||
| It's just a green screen. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's indoors. | ||
| What's up, Anthony? | ||
| How's it going? | ||
| Those guys from Opie and Anthony and Jim Norton, when those guys would have you on the podcast or the radio show, rather. | ||
| I say podcast because it really was the first podcast. | ||
| I think Opie and Anthony was the first podcast. | ||
| Because it was sort of structure-less. | ||
| They split up. | ||
| They did split up. | ||
| Unfortunate. | ||
| They needed a mediator. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| So that's all green screen behind him. | ||
| Maybe you think they'll ever get back together? | ||
| Fuck, it would be amazing. | ||
| Listen, sometimes people, when they work together for long periods of time, they just get on each other's nerves. | ||
| They hate each other. | ||
|
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Mm-hmm. | |
| But what they had, like, I can't hate each other 100%. | ||
| What they had when those guys were together, when everything was rocking and rolling, I mean, it was a great fucking show. | ||
| It was a great show for comics, because we would come in and they taught me how to be just, they taught me how to just hang. | ||
| Like on a radio show, where you didn't have to think, like, oh my god, this is like this really structured program. | ||
| There was no structure. | ||
| It was Ari Shafir and Bill Burr and Patrice O'Neill and Rich Voss. | ||
| It was fucking chaos. | ||
| It was so fun. | ||
| It was so ridiculous. | ||
| And we would look forward to it. | ||
| Like, I remember I'd smoke a joint and then drink coffee, or we would take pot lollipops or something. | ||
| And we would be on our way to Opie and Anthony, like Ari and I, and it would be, you know, fucking 6 o'clock in the morning. | ||
| We're exhausted. | ||
| Did a show last night, but we were so pumped to get there. | ||
| Because we knew maybe Colin Quinn was going to come by. | ||
| All these different comics were going to be there. | ||
| And it was just a hang, man. | ||
| It was just a hang. | ||
| Everybody was just laughing and goofing on each other. | ||
| And it was, you know, sometimes you'd have four or five comics in the room. | ||
| And there's so many people that were obviously in America and the world who remember where they were at that time, listening. | ||
| All the listeners, right? | ||
| Listening to that? | ||
| There were some moments that were the most... | ||
| One of the craziest things I've ever seen in my life happen on that show, where they had an eggnog drinking contest, and this dude... | ||
| Paul from Wynaki. | ||
| Pat. | ||
| Pat from Wynaki. | ||
| Pat from Wynaki is a dude who won their eggnog drinking contest and then vomited in another man's mouth who was leaning over a garbage can surrounded by comics, Bill Burr, Ari Shafir, me, Opie, Anthony, a bunch of staff. | ||
|
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Uh-huh. | |
| Threw up in this dude's mouth. | ||
| Pat Duffy. | ||
| He leaned over a garbage can and opened his mouth like this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| So he's leaning over this garbage can. | ||
| He's got his neck over this. | ||
| And this other guy, Pat, who's behind him, is at the end of the line. | ||
| He's probably done... | ||
| How many shots do you think he did, Jamie? | ||
| Do you remember? | ||
| I had close to 20-ish, maybe? | ||
| More? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I had a night like this once at the Rivoli Theater in Toronto, actually. | ||
| But he keeps downing these shots of eggnog. | ||
| And he also has diabetes. | ||
| So he really has to throw it up. | ||
| Like, you really can't keep it in his body because it's so much sugar. | ||
| It might kill him. | ||
| This is a crazy scene, man! | ||
| Wait, what year is this? | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| Oh my god, wait. | ||
| Where... | ||
| Early 2000s. | ||
|
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Where are you? | |
| Look at this! | ||
| Where are you? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm in there somewhere. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That might be me filming right there. | ||
| Is that me? | ||
| I think that is me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| That's me on the mic filming. | ||
| You know, it was just the 90s were weird. | ||
| Dude, everybody has a flip phone. | ||
| I have a flip phone. | ||
| Watch him throw up in this dude's mouth. | ||
| Ready? | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's one of the craziest things. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| How much? | ||
| It keeps going, dude. | ||
| It's cartoonish. | ||
|
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It keeps going. | |
| What was he eating that day? | ||
| Eggnog, bro. | ||
| You're not listening. | ||
| Look, look, look. | ||
|
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Whoa! | |
| I'm seeing this for the first time. | ||
| I think he's got more. | ||
| He's got more. | ||
| He's got another one in him. | ||
| It's like the meaning of life, the final scene of the meaning of life. | ||
| I think he's got one more. | ||
| Look, look. | ||
| Preposterous! | ||
| Preposterous amounts of eggnog. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| In this guy's mouth. | ||
| And look, it's the Dexter scene. | ||
| This is Dexter. | ||
| Look at the ground. | ||
| It's covered in plastic. | ||
| Everyone knew there was going to be throw-up. | ||
| This is a radio show. | ||
| Do you understand how crazy this is? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The video only came from cell phones. | ||
| There was no show on video. | ||
| This is how bonkers radio was back then. | ||
| And so those guys gave a chance to guys like Ari and me and Joey Diaz and all those guys who out of that group that were doing those radio shows early in the morning and you would do that show and you would go, why can't we do this? | ||
| And that was a seed too. | ||
| So between you and them. | ||
| And then the fact that Adam Carolla went right from radio. | ||
| He went to doing his own podcast and a bunch of other people did the same thing. | ||
| I was like, okay. | ||
| It's a... | ||
| I mean, look. | ||
| Charlie just got up, by the way. | ||
| That's a beautiful thing. | ||
|
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Chopper. | |
| I'd like to say... | ||
| It's Chopper, bro. | ||
| First of all, Joe, thank you. | ||
| And what's up to Opie and Anthony? | ||
| Salute. | ||
| And Charlie just woke up. | ||
| So let me just get Charlie. | ||
| Charlie, what are you doing? | ||
| Maybe you can come up here, say hi. | ||
| This is never going to work. | ||
| People always want to bring dogs on the podcast. | ||
| You watch. | ||
| My dog was on the podcast for like five seconds. | ||
| Charlie is chill. | ||
| I'm sure she's chill. | ||
| Definitely won't interfere with the conversation at all. | ||
| Ignore her for a second. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Check it out. | ||
| Talk about Marshall May Rogan. | ||
| Yeah, that's his name. | ||
| Why are you saying ignore her? | ||
| Well, just because you thought she was going to interrupt the conversation. | ||
| I'm just joking. | ||
| She's adorable. | ||
| She won't. | ||
| She's a sweet little dog. | ||
| Isn't she interesting? | ||
| She's very sweet. | ||
| Well, she's very calm, which means she's loved. | ||
| Look at the way she's embracing you. | ||
| That's a loved dog. | ||
| I do love her. | ||
| She can tell. | ||
| Look how she leans into you, man. | ||
| When Marshall, when you pet him, he leans into your leg. | ||
| It's the sweetest thing. | ||
| He's trying to stay in contact with you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, I've had two Siberian Huskies for 15 years before Charlie. | ||
| But this is new relationship. | ||
| You're seven months old, Charlie. | ||
| You're seven months old. | ||
| You know what's fucked up, man? | ||
| It's like you could look at things almost in two different ways. | ||
| You could be a reductionist person. | ||
| You could say, like, well, you know, the weird thing about dogs is... | ||
| It's really what mankind has done to wolves. | ||
| Like, they've taken them and subjugated them and then fucking genetically mutated them to be some thing that sits in your lap that relies on you to stay alive. | ||
| Like, man. | ||
| Yeah, but you can't fix that. | ||
| And dogs are real, and they're real right now, and you could have a dog like Charlie. | ||
| Yeah, well, I think about that because we're out there and the coyotes are out there. | ||
| Dude, I really am living out in the middle of the woods. | ||
| It's really kind of crazy. | ||
| Like, for real, that's actually what we've been doing for the last six weeks and it's ridiculous, but it's really fun and I'm loving it and Charlie's loving it. | ||
| Dude, Charlie's adorable. | ||
| We go for a walk in the woods every day. | ||
| She's so sweet. | ||
| And she's having a good time. | ||
| She gets crazy. | ||
| She gets a little crazy. | ||
| She gets her zoomies. | ||
| Oh yeah, I love when they do that. | ||
| Especially at her age, right? | ||
| It can get frustrating sometimes. | ||
| Well, you've got to run with her or do something with her, throw a ball to her. | ||
| Yeah, no, and she'll instigate all that stuff. | ||
| So, yeah, I do want to worry about her. | ||
| I'm sure you love her. | ||
| We're out in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| She's got a GPS tracker on her collar. | ||
| I put tape over my phone number on the dog tag before I came to the show because my personal cell phone number is on there. | ||
| You don't want to get them dick pics. | ||
| I just didn't want it up on the thing, so I thought about that. | ||
| If you did have it up, how many dick pics do you think you'd get? | ||
| Let's take the tape off for a second. | ||
| I'll give my cell phone number. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| I love dogs, but it is crazy what we did to the wolf. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Did we do it, or did they... | ||
| They saw an opportunity. | ||
| They saw a campfire. | ||
| They saw a bunch of fresh-cooked meat. | ||
| Delicious. | ||
| They'd go in, be cute. | ||
| Someone throws me... | ||
| This is the same argument that predatory women use when they steal men's money and divorce them. | ||
| Like when a hot lady marries an old billionaire. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Same sort of logic. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Did we really do it to them? | ||
| Or did they do it to themselves? | ||
| Did they come close to the campfire? | ||
| Yeah, well... | ||
| Did they want the love? | ||
| I think that's what it is with dogs, though. | ||
| They just evolved from that, right? | ||
| I think they for sure did for a while. | ||
| They were close to us. | ||
| And then once we started capturing them and keeping them in our houses and shit, the ones that survived are the ones that were the most obedient, the ones that were the most compliant, the ones that didn't... | ||
| Give us a hard time. | ||
| The ones that, you know, just wanted love. | ||
| Like, think about that sometimes when I'm hanging out with my dog. | ||
| Like, he's the sweetest thing in the world. | ||
| I love him to death. | ||
| Like, we have these little hug sessions in the morning. | ||
| Like, every morning when I wake up, I go, hello, sir. | ||
| Hello, sir. | ||
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He's like, oh! | |
| He's, like, so excited to see you. | ||
| He's such a sweetheart of a dog. | ||
| But I'm like, he couldn't survive on his own. | ||
| Like, he's this fluffy thing that's amazing. | ||
| He's full of love, like a love sponge. | ||
| But that's not an animal that... | ||
| He survives as an animal. | ||
| He's essentially a carnivore. | ||
| I'm feeding him food. | ||
| I have to feed him. | ||
| But as long as I do that, he'll stay this sort of sweet, compliant, well-fed thing. | ||
| But wild dogs kill people. | ||
| Some lady got killed by a wild dog like a week ago. | ||
| There was some article I saw. | ||
| I think it was a lady got killed. | ||
| Or maybe it was an old man. | ||
| But someone got killed. | ||
| Do you remember it, Jamie? | ||
| Somebody got killed by a wild dog. | ||
| Good girl. | ||
| Today. | ||
| Today. | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| Florida man killed by a pack of wild dogs. | ||
| Florida man killed by a pack of wild dogs. | ||
| Today. | ||
| Today. | ||
| Why is it always in Florida these things happen? | ||
| Because it's the best spot on earth. | ||
| It's aliens amusement park. | ||
| It's always in Florida man. | ||
| I wonder if it's in the air. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Imagine if that's what they prove, like you go to Florida. | ||
| Yeah, get in there, buddy. | ||
| I don't want to, like... | ||
| I don't want to make a fool of myself here. | ||
| They prove that if you go to Florida, your IQ drops 3%, and your inability to say no to meth goes up by 1,000%. | ||
| You can drink too much sometimes, but, I mean, Joe, it's an honor to be here having whiskey with you, man. | ||
| It's an honor to have you, brother. | ||
| For real, legitimately, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you are one of the reasons why I do this, so thank you very much. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| When you were doing that show out of your house and you had me over as a guest and I remember sitting at your table going, look at what Tom Green did. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| You made your own thing. | ||
| You made your own show. | ||
| And you were doing a call-in talk show with a desk. | ||
| Listen, I appreciate it, Joe. | ||
| You don't have to... | ||
| Say it. | ||
| It's true, buddy. | ||
| It's so cool, man. | ||
| Just being here and just, you know, this whiskey is really good. | ||
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It's pretty damn good, right? | |
| Like, really good. | ||
| Pretty damn good. | ||
| Especially when you're drunk. | ||
| This is a Still Austin straight bourbon whiskey. | ||
| When you're drunk, it's like it's not clear what actually is good. | ||
| What was the first drink you had when you were a kid? | ||
| When do you start drinking? | ||
| When do you start drinking? | ||
| How old were you when you started drinking? | ||
| High school kids. | ||
| High school, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I remember when I first got really fucked up on Jack Daniels to the point where I couldn't smell Jack Daniels for like years. | ||
| I had that experience with Wild Turkey. | ||
| Wild Turkey and Maker's Mark. | ||
| I had that, yeah. | ||
| I threw up in a cab when I was like 15 years old. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| Same 15. Listen, Wild Turkey was my first bourbon experience and it did not end well. | ||
| Yeah, Wild Turkey will fuck you up, right? | ||
| That stuff is seriously potent, isn't it? | ||
| Isn't it like a higher percentage of alcohol? | ||
| It's like a moonshine. | ||
| What happened was my friend Phil and I, who was my best friend growing up, we went on a camping trip one time. | ||
| This is what kids in Canada do when they're in their 20s. | ||
| When they're not skateboarding, hey, let's go paddle. | ||
| Take a walkabout? | ||
| We brought a canoe and we said, let's paddle out to that island and we'll bring some beer, we'll bring some whiskey, we'll light a fire, we'll hang out and it'll be fun. | ||
| Anyways, we went out. | ||
| I flipped the canoe on the way. | ||
| The beer sunk to the bottom of the lake. | ||
| All we had was our bottle of wild turkey. | ||
| So we didn't have the beer. | ||
| It was not a good thing. | ||
| Damn, dude. | ||
| Canadian life is a different life. | ||
| That's why people are nicer up there. | ||
| You guys have more weather. | ||
| You have to deal with more shit. | ||
| You have to band together more. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| The winter's kind of kept you down a little bit as a country. | ||
| There's a certain reality that Canada has that the rest of North America doesn't have. | ||
| In the winter, it can get real crazy. | ||
| You were saying ice fishing, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You did ice fishing. | ||
| I didn't do ice fishing, but it was just walking to school was going ice fishing. | ||
| And by the way, it was the 70s, right? | ||
| I was born in 1971. So I was walking to school as a five-year-old in 1976. Oh my God, that's crazy. | ||
| In the winter with a hat on by myself. | ||
| Wolves are out there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ, Tom Green. | ||
| What if you got eaten by a wolf? | ||
| Yeah, and look, and Charlie just went to sleep, went right back to sleep. | ||
| Isn't she such a cute little... | ||
| She's a sweetie. | ||
| She's definitely a sweetie pie. | ||
| She's so loved. | ||
| You could tell the way she leans into you. | ||
| That's a loved dog. | ||
| And so it's a unique situation because of the pandemic and the fact that I've got, you know, we're all isolating and I've got nothing else to do other than go at my van with this new dog. | ||
| And she was rescued by a rescue from, they're called Thrive in San Diego. | ||
| And this is what they do. | ||
| They find dogs in the Caribbean and Mexico. | ||
| She was born in the Bahamas. | ||
| And they bring them over. | ||
| That's dope. | ||
| And I just, you know... | ||
| Well, you got a good one, man. | ||
| She's a little sweetie. | ||
| It's kind of weird because I just kind of got super lucky because it just sort of happened. | ||
| I knew I needed a dog because this has been a weird year. | ||
| I miss having dogs. | ||
| I didn't have a dog. | ||
| It's also cool that she's young enough so that you can teach her. | ||
| Sometimes people adopt dogs and they're grown. | ||
| And when you adopt a dog and it's grown, it's a more difficult road to kind of train them and get them... | ||
| So she was three and a half months when I got her. | ||
| She had actually been rescued by someone else and then they couldn't keep her and I got her at three and a half months. | ||
| But yeah, she's a very good puppy. | ||
| I've had Marshall since he was like six weeks old. | ||
| How old is Marshall? | ||
| He's almost four. | ||
| Oh, four. | ||
| He's the sweetest. | ||
| I've never had a golden retriever before. | ||
| Just a different thing. | ||
| When I see him, we just have this little love session. | ||
| Me and him. | ||
| A man-dog love session. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Charlie has an Instagram. | ||
| Look at her pictures. | ||
| Charlie the potcake dog. | ||
| Charlie is called a potcake dog. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| So, she's rescued from the Bahamas. | ||
| In the Bahamas, they call the street dogs that are running around, the strays, they call them potcake dogs because they go to the local people, cook them, you know, they feed them the burnt rice from the... | ||
| And that's why they're called potcake dogs. | ||
| So that's what Charlie is. | ||
| She's a potcake dog. | ||
| Steve-O has a dog that has a similar type story, right? | ||
| Doesn't he? | ||
| Yes, he does. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| His dogs hit the lottery, son. | ||
| What's up, Steve-O? Shout out to Steve-O. Yeah, man, dogs are... | ||
| It's a really interesting thing because part of me knows that this is a wolf. | ||
| That was manipulated. | ||
| Its ancestors are manipulated into this thing. | ||
| But part of me is like, yeah, but there's nothing I can do about that right now. | ||
| Like, he's alive right now, so he's my snuggle buddy. | ||
| I'm like, hello, buddy, hello, buddy. | ||
| And he puts his paws up in the air and lays on his back and I rub his tummy. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| But it is strange. | ||
| This is not a judgment. | ||
| This is just an observation. | ||
| It's so strange that people did this to wolves. | ||
| They took a wolf and turned it into a French bulldog. | ||
| A French bulldog came from a wolf. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| A wolf. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
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There is no justification for that. | |
| Well, the wolves cooperated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| Oh, that's a tough one. | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| It was probably a lot of fun for them, I'm sure. | ||
| I don't think we need to... | ||
| I would think they probably had a lot of fun doing that. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Why would they not have enjoyed that? | ||
| Well, they needed food, probably. | ||
| What I'm saying is I'm trying to come up with a bit. | ||
| You're being introduced. | ||
| Hey, German Shepherd, we'd like you to meet this Irish wolfhound. | ||
| Oh, no, no, I'm not interested in that. | ||
| No, of course they were interested in that. | ||
| Okay, now we're getting weird. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Well, I think, like, German Shepherds are tough dogs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, a Belgian Malinois is a dog that's, like, specifically designed to attack human beings. | ||
| Like, you ever seen those meat missiles? | ||
| Those little small, little, they look like German Shepherds, but, like, with dark evil, like, almost demonic eyes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Fuck you up, man, those Belgian Malinois. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But that is a dog that's specifically bred just to attack people. | ||
| But most dogs are bred to be really nice to people. | ||
| So you're saying it's unethical that they set animals up with each other like that? | ||
| Not saying that. | ||
| It's like manipulative. | ||
| No. | ||
| Here's what I'm saying. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If they didn't do it, those fucking things would be eating us. | ||
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Right. | |
| This is what people have to understand. | ||
| Like, wolves will fucking eat you. | ||
|
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Uh-huh. | |
| All right? | ||
| I'm not saying we should kill the wolves. | ||
| I love wolves. | ||
| I love the... | ||
| I had two Siberian Huskies for 15 years, so I basically lived with two wolves. | ||
| I have a wolf on my phone. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| That's a wolf. | ||
| Wow, that is... | ||
| That's my... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Hey, can you pull up a picture of Annie and Steve? | ||
| I'm fascinated by wolves. | ||
| Check out for Annie and Steve, I had two dogs that looked like that for 15 years living. | ||
| Beautiful animal. | ||
| I'm fascinated by wolves. | ||
| It's not that I don't like wolves, but the reality of wolves is they would fucking eat you. | ||
| The reason why we like dogs is because we've gotten dogs into a position where we control them and they're not free. | ||
| If dogs were free, they would kill you like that person that died today. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Who's the person that died today? | ||
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65-year-old man. | |
| 65-year-old man got attacked and murdered by stray dogs. | ||
| Where? | ||
| Today? | ||
| Where was it? | ||
| In Tallahassee. | ||
| Florida. | ||
| In America. | ||
| More Florida. | ||
| Another Florida issue. | ||
| That's more than one Florida, right? | ||
| Was that the same Florida he was talking about before? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's the same story? | ||
| So we already brought this up. | ||
| That's how drunk we are. | ||
| There's Annie and Steve. | ||
| Those were my dogs for 15 years. | ||
| Steve on the left in this photo and Annie on the right. | ||
| And that's in LA. That's up in Burbank. | ||
| Cool dogs. | ||
| Yeah, and they were good girls. | ||
| They were good girls. | ||
| Dogs are great if you feed them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You ever have a feral cat? | ||
| I've had cats, but I'm not sure if I've had a feral cat. | ||
| I had a feral cat once. | ||
| His name is Jack Dempsey, like the boxer. | ||
| What do you mean that means? | ||
| Feral, wild. | ||
| Like you found it, and then you adopted it? | ||
| Well, my friend Lainey found it as a kitten, and she gave it to me. | ||
| She captured a bunch of her and her boyfriend, trapped them underneath this house. | ||
| Okay, and then they raised it. | ||
| I think my parents found a cat at the side of the road. | ||
| Lucky. | ||
| Shout out to Lucky. | ||
| Shout out to Lucky. | ||
| Lucky is no longer here. | ||
| Rest in peace, Lucky. | ||
| What happened to Lucky? | ||
| Well, she lived 19 years. | ||
| She wasn't that lucky. | ||
| That's Lucky. | ||
| 19 years is very lucky. | ||
| Good name. | ||
| It might have been 18 or something. | ||
| That is fucking old for a cat. | ||
| And they found her at the side of the road. | ||
| My mother... | ||
| Oh, she got hit? | ||
| My mother married... | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Oh, she found her when she was a baby. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So my parents, Mary Jane Green and Richard, Joe, I want to give a shout out, and to my brother Joe, okay? | ||
| They found lucky. | ||
| First of all, I love you guys. | ||
| Great to see you. | ||
| My mom and dad and my brother are a strong support system in my life. | ||
| I love them. | ||
| They're excited that I'm here. | ||
| I'm excited that they're excited. | ||
| Yeah, they are. | ||
| I am, but it's cool. | ||
| Here's a funny story. | ||
| So I talked to my mom on the phone in the van. | ||
| As I run over Charlie's head with the rolling... | ||
| No, I... You talk to your mom on the phone? | ||
| Every day. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| Like, I got the phone up and I'm driving. | ||
| Not every day, but usually when I'm driving and I'm trying to find another spot. | ||
| It's kind of fun. | ||
| This is what's cool. | ||
| The phone is on the speaker. | ||
| I can call my friends. | ||
| I'm driving around. | ||
| I'm talking like, hey, where should I go tonight? | ||
| And you go look for these places. | ||
| But my mom, Mary Jane Green. | ||
| Mary Jane Green, by the way. | ||
| That's my mother's name. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| Mary Jane Green. | ||
| Isn't that a great name? | ||
| It's a great name. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Mary Jane. | ||
| He's saying it like it's preposterous. | ||
| Like, there's no way! | ||
| Are you listening to me? | ||
| Mary Jane Green. | ||
| Yeah, she didn't even really, I don't think, make the connection to the weed reference of it until, like, later, you know, like... | ||
| Did she partake? | ||
| I don't think my mom was a big Mary Jane Green partaker, actually. | ||
| But it's funny that her name is Mary Jane Green and she wasn't a big Mary Jane Green partaker. | ||
| It's almost sad. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like if she was a pothead, she'd be legendary. | ||
| Yeah, she was not a pothead. | ||
| Is she still around? | ||
| My mom... | ||
| Your mom's still around? | ||
| Yeah, my mom is still around. | ||
| It's not too late. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| I think we envision a second career for your mom. | ||
| I could see her being open to it. | ||
| I want to see your mom with one of them giant LED pot flag chains hanging from her neck, like one of the flashing green pot leaks. | ||
| It could happen. | ||
| It could happen. | ||
| Imagine? | ||
| It could happen. | ||
| My mom just flips the script. | ||
| My mom's really cool. | ||
| It could happen. | ||
| I don't think she's... | ||
| Why wouldn't you start a marijuana company with your mom's name? | ||
| We've talked about it, but I don't... | ||
| We've talked about it. | ||
| Mary Jane Green? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Salute. | ||
| Mary Jane Green. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| We've talked about it. | ||
| That shit's perfect. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why wouldn't you do it? | ||
| I don't really know how to do that. | ||
| You need to contact lawyer people that understand how to make that a reality. | ||
| I literally don't know how to... | ||
| You need to get some lawyer folk who know how to... | ||
| I don't know how to start a marijuana company. | ||
| Well, you need some venture capital folk and some lawyer folk that know how to navigate the legality. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's legal in states, but not in all of them. | ||
| California's legal, though, where you allegedly live. | ||
| And so, Texas, not legal. | ||
| Not legal. | ||
| So then... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But California... | ||
| Legal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's almost worth the taxes. | ||
| It's like, one way or another, no place is perfect. | ||
| But it's obviously eventually going to be legal everywhere. | ||
| It really should be. | ||
| Within two years and two or three years or something? | ||
| The only reason why it's not is because we have a distorted idea of what it is. | ||
| And the quicker it would be made legal, the quicker people would be able to do legitimate research on it and find out why there are these... | ||
| Adverse reactions that some people have. | ||
| Because that's the only thing that bothers me. | ||
| Yeah, but that's not real. | ||
| But there are certain people that have real issues with pot that other people don't. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, schizophrenia is one of them. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Yeah, there's a guy, right? | ||
| He's an author who came on this. | ||
| He's a journalist. | ||
| And he came on this podcast to debate Mike Hart, Who is a Canadian doctor that prescribes weed. | ||
| He does a lot of work with medical marijuana patients. | ||
| Alex Berenson wrote this book on the dangers of marijuana. | ||
| It resonates. | ||
| It sounds very real. | ||
| We've all known people. | ||
| Like I've known three or four people that tell stories about having some experience when they're on edibles and then all their friends say they snapped. | ||
| And they were – they barely recovered after that. | ||
| Like some people are fragile with their chemical – I don't mean to say fragile. | ||
| Do you remember the first time you got high? | ||
| Do you remember the first time you got high? | ||
| Not really the first time, but I remember the first time as an adult because I really didn't do it for a long time until I was about 30 and then I started getting high again. | ||
| But I only got high between 30 and whenever I first started doing it, like a handful of times, like four or five times my whole life until I was 30. I had never smoked. | ||
| Maybe a little more, but not much. | ||
| I never smoked marijuana in high school. | ||
| I was a straight-edge kid. | ||
| I drank quite a bit, actually, to be honest with you. | ||
| Standard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a good kid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Out there drinking. | ||
| Drank a lot. | ||
| Later in life, though, I discovered it, and it was fun. | ||
| I think it's very important that kids' brains develop before they get too much of anything. | ||
| Too much of alcohol, too much of... | ||
| Marijuana, too much of anything. | ||
| When you're a kid, that's what's fucked up about this. | ||
| Like, I don't want to tell anybody what to do. | ||
| But when you're a kid, and this is like, again, I said that I got drunk for the first time, I was like 15 or 16, like really bad, threw up in a car, in a cab on the way home. | ||
| Like, I'm... | ||
| I just don't think... | ||
| I think there's something that's going on that you can't think of while it's happening with the development of your brain when you're 15 years old. | ||
| There's a bunch of shit going on that you really don't understand. | ||
| And I think... | ||
| In some way, it's up to the people that have gone through it to protect you from the potential negative aspects of all your bad decision making. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And that's one of them with drinking and pot and drugs. | ||
| If you want to tell the kids, look, I know. | ||
| I don't want to tell you what you can and can't do because I don't want you to develop this need to rebel against me. | ||
| But you're doing something to your brain before it's done cooking. | ||
| And you're also doing something that's incredibly difficult for people to manage that are mature, well-developed adults. | ||
| Give well-developed adults Adderall. | ||
| A lot of them are not very good at managing that. | ||
| A lot of them. | ||
| They get real wacky with Adderall. | ||
| They start taking it all the time. | ||
| That's well... | ||
| Adjusted, educated, with responsibility adults. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And they can get hooked on Adderall. | ||
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| What the fuck do you think is going to happen to a 15-year-old that starts drinking or doing coke or smoking pot? | ||
| Your brain's growing. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| I'm not even done. | ||
| I think drinking is a fun act of rebelliousness as a teenager, but maybe that's probably where it should end. | ||
| I think, in a sense, you'd be better off if you could mentor your children to understand what drinking is and mentor them in a way where you teach them about the dangers of over-drinking. | ||
| You could do it in a way where you don't even have to get the kids drunk. | ||
| You just let the kids know, listen, I am a person. | ||
| You are a person. | ||
| I am older than you. | ||
| I'm not better than you. | ||
| I've just lived longer. | ||
| I am just trying to tell you for your own safety and good that you need to learn how to do this. | ||
| Because if you just start drinking with no supervision when you're 21 years old or 18 in some countries, you're going to fuck yourself up. | ||
| We would both be way better off, me not having to worry about you, and you with understanding the consequences of your actions if we sat down and talked about how to drink. | ||
| It's a complex thing. | ||
| It's a complex thing. | ||
| There's a lot going on. | ||
| It's not just like you're out in the world, you're inebriated. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's also like physically you've got to know what's the dose. | ||
| You're a 90-pound woman. | ||
| You can't drink 18 drinks. | ||
| Your body's not going to be able to handle it. | ||
| A 400-pound man has a much larger gap than a person like you or I. They've got a lot more wiggle room for how much alcohol they consume. | ||
| And you've got to start slow. | ||
| I definitely figured it out on my own. | ||
| Which is part of the adventure of life, you know, like having a few bad nights. | ||
| But yeah, it probably would have been better off to have had a little warning about... | ||
| For sure. | ||
| If someone just sat you down and said, Tom, Tom, Tom, look at me. | ||
| One drink, good. | ||
| But here's the problem with two drinks and three drinks and four drinks if you have them too quickly. | ||
| All of a sudden, you don't know what's good and what's bad. | ||
| All of a sudden, you don't know what's drunk and what's sober. | ||
| You don't know what's the right move anymore because you're fucked up. | ||
| And when you're fucked up, you don't know what to do. | ||
| So you've got to avoid getting fucked up. | ||
| You've got to get to the point where you're having a good time, a little chatty, having fun, social lubricant. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And don't... | ||
| Because if you're, you know... | ||
| I mean, most people just get lucky and nothing that bad happens. | ||
| But, you know, you lose control when you're so, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| You could certainly think about it that way. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But also you could think about it's just like... | ||
| Something bad could happen to anybody, though. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| So you need to be aware. | ||
| Like, hey, you got to be careful. | ||
| You can't be going to run around just like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't know what you're doing. | ||
| Drinking whiskey all night, you know? | ||
| And talking shit on a podcast. | ||
| Something bad's going to happen. | ||
| Well, you don't know what's going on anymore. | ||
| Cheers to that, though. | ||
| All of a sudden you're a fucking... | ||
| Oh, a whiskey robot. | ||
| When you're a 15-year-old kid, the first time you get drunk, you have no experience to draw from. | ||
| You don't have a lot of these under your belt. | ||
| Like, oh, been there before. | ||
| The first time you ever get drunk, I wish I could really clearly remember it. | ||
| I can. | ||
| I can remember mine. | ||
| Can you? | ||
| Tell me. | ||
| So I can remember. | ||
| So when I was in Ottawa, Canada, what's up, Ottawa? | ||
| We would go in high school to these things called pubs. | ||
| Why do you say things called pubs? | ||
| You speak in some strange language that no one understands. | ||
| It wasn't a bar. | ||
| It wasn't an actual pub. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| It was like somebody would rent out a community center and they'd be selling... | ||
| You could go buy beer, but you're 15. You're underage. | ||
| And they called them pubs. | ||
| And all the kids went there. | ||
| It was a loophole or was it illegal? | ||
| It was illegal, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it was illegal. | ||
| So it was pubs. | ||
| It was pubs. | ||
| That was Ottawa, Canada. | ||
| We'd go down to Vanier. | ||
| What's up, Vanier? | ||
| Vanier's part of town in Ottawa. | ||
| We'd go down there, and all the kids from all the high schools would go down there, and you could buy a beer for a dollar or something like that. | ||
| When you're saying this, you know what I see in my head? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Snow. | ||
| Oh, it was so cold. | ||
| I see cold weather and slush and wet boots. | ||
| We would take the OC Transpo, Ottawa-Carlton Transpo bus, down through the snow and to get to this part of town, Vanier, to go... | ||
| First of all, I want to say, Joe, first of all, I love you, man. | ||
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I love you, too. | |
| I love you, man. | ||
| I love you, too. | ||
| Thank you for... | ||
| Thank you for being here, man. | ||
| And I want to shout out Vanier because... | ||
| Shout out to Vanier. | ||
| Yeah, it's so cool. | ||
| Everybody in Ottawa knows Vanier is this great place. | ||
| I grew up basically very close to there. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| Ottawa. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, but it's cold as hell up there, man. | ||
| It's really cold. | ||
| Yeah, I envision slushy boots. | ||
| You tell me that story, I was thinking, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. | ||
| Everyone's cold. | ||
| Fingers are numb. | ||
| Wait, Google this. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Google this. | ||
| Jamie, can I ask you to show a photo of something? | ||
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No. | |
| Is that cool? | ||
|
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Cougar boots. | |
| You don't mean cougar like the 40-year-old mom trying to get some young dick? | ||
| Not talking about that one. | ||
| You sure? | ||
| No, I'm talking about cougar boots. | ||
| They're made out of cougars? | ||
| No. | ||
| So this is my experience as a kid, growing up in Canada, in the freezing Canada. | ||
| This is what was on my feet. | ||
| That one, on the brown one, the light brown one, that one. | ||
| That looks comfy. | ||
| Yeah, they were comfy. | ||
| And they're like, it's not leather, they're like vinyl boots. | ||
| And that was, so when I was in the... | ||
| Is this an ad? | ||
| Are you doing a Cougar Boots ad? | ||
| Does not exist anymore. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| That's like Atari 2600 style. | ||
| That's like 1992 or something. | ||
| That seems like it could come back. | ||
| We can get retro right now with like Olivia Newton-John, let's get physical type ankle puffy things. | ||
| I've just saw the white ones before. | ||
| There's some things you can bring back today. | ||
| I think people are ripe. | ||
| They're ready for headbands. | ||
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Joe, man. | |
| Joe, you can bring... | ||
| People are ready for some weird shit. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I bet you do. | ||
| I need to get that sweat out. | ||
| I bet you do. | ||
| I bet you do. | ||
| Okay, can I show you something cool about Canadian, weird Canadian stuff that I think you'll appreciate? | ||
| You don't have to ask. | ||
| Just tell me. | ||
| Check out the NABU Network. | ||
| NABU? NABU, yeah. | ||
| Check that out. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| So in the 80s, we had the internet in Ottawa before anybody. | ||
| Yeah, the 80s? | ||
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What? | |
| You had the internet in the 80s? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| It wasn't the internet. | ||
| It was called the NABU Network. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Oh yeah, there's Doug Henning. | ||
| The magician Doug Henning did a commercial for it. | ||
| Well, what is it? | ||
| So, it was a network that was run through the cable television system, but it was the internet, basically. | ||
| What? | ||
| And everybody could talk to each other. | ||
| Yeah, switch on to smart TV. It was, like, way earlier than it was anything else. | ||
| You talked to people, like, in a text message to a keyboard? | ||
| Yeah, but they had video games on there, too. | ||
| You had arcade quality. | ||
| You had Dig Dug. | ||
| You had, like, all these, like, Dig Dug's the one that comes to mind. | ||
| But you had Track and Field, you know, the one where you gotta just shake the fucking... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, and all that. | ||
| And so, Naboo, there it is. | ||
| See, there's the logo there. | ||
| The blue logo, right down there. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That was like Ottawa Rewind. | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| Ah, Coke-Fueled! | ||
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The untold story of Ottawa's Coke-Fueled 1980s. | |
| I didn't know Ottawa was so edgy with the Coke-Fueled 1980s. | ||
| Oh my god, that's the Coke-Fueled 1980s video game industry. | ||
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Wow! | |
| That's what I'm saying, though. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Wait, but hold on. | ||
| I didn't partake in that part of it, but I mean, I wish I had, but it sounds like it was pretty fun. | ||
| If somebody writes a story about this podcast, they're going to say marijuana and alcohol-fueled Blank. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, that's what they do. | ||
| And I hope they do. | ||
| This is rude. | ||
| These people, they worked hard to make these video games. | ||
| Don't blame it on Coke. | ||
| Coke-fueled. | ||
| No, exactly. | ||
| You can't stay on Coke, you assholes. | ||
| You can't say it's all Coke-fueled. | ||
| You know what it's like if you're on Coke all day long? | ||
| I don't, but... | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| I'm asking you. | ||
| I was hoping you had an answer. | ||
| I actually don't... | ||
| It's funny, because I'm not a drug... | ||
| I don't do a lot of drugs. | ||
| That guy looks like he's on Coke. | ||
| Look at that picture. | ||
| I mean, I would try drugs if it was allowed to do drugs, but... | ||
| If that guy shakes your hand, you want to go to the gym. | ||
| Wait, who is that? | ||
| No, but here's the thing. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Here's the thing, Joe. | ||
| It was pretty cool. | ||
| It was interesting. | ||
| It was like... | ||
| You had a box that you would plug into the cable. | ||
| It sounds cool. | ||
| The cable TV. So my dad, Richard Green, Dick Green, okay? | ||
| Mary Jane Green and Dick Green hanging out. | ||
| Dick and Mary Jane. | ||
| Do you know how crazy that is? | ||
| You're not even a real person, are you? | ||
| You're like a CIA plant. | ||
| No one has the parents Dick and Mary Jane Green. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| What games did you play? | ||
| Did you play Pong? | ||
| The first might be the best. | ||
| I remember playing Pong for the first time. | ||
| To this day, Pong hangs in there. | ||
| By the way, can I say something about my dad for a second? | ||
| You certainly can. | ||
| My dad, Dick Green, was a tank commander. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Captain, Canadian Army. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| And won the NATO... Like artillery, like armored corps, like best shot, you know, like competition in Germany against everybody, Americans, Germans, everybody, firing a tank. | ||
| Like when you're a kid growing up and your dad's like, oh yeah, what did you do? | ||
| Oh, I was a tank captain, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he won. | ||
| He won. | ||
| My dad actually did this. | ||
| Richard Greene won this tank shooting competition for NATO, for Canada, right? | ||
| Beat all the other, yeah, pretty sure. | ||
| Pretty sure. | ||
| I mean, I want to give you the example. | ||
| Again, I see snow. | ||
| I see wet boots. | ||
| We all have coffee in our hands. | ||
| We're listening to this story. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I want you to Google it. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| Tom, I believe you. | ||
| Sometimes people shoot better than other people do, and then they win awards. | ||
| I lived in Petawawa. | ||
| CFB Petawawa. | ||
| Canadian Forces-based Petawawa was where I grew up. | ||
| This thing that your dad won, can you explain how it worked? | ||
| Yeah, they would go out with the tanks and they would shoot at targets that were at different ranges. | ||
| And your dad was just a wizard at it? | ||
| He won. | ||
| He's the plaque at the house. | ||
| Won the NATO, it was like 1971 or something? | ||
| No, no, before it, 68 or something. | ||
| My father went to Vietnam. | ||
| My father was in Vietnam with the Canadian Army as peacekeepers. | ||
| Does he have, is your dad still alive? | ||
| Yes, he is, yeah. | ||
| Does he have problems hearing? | ||
| A little bit, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A little bit, but he's... | ||
| Firing off those guns, man. | ||
| Boom! | ||
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| Boom! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, um... | ||
| My dad has hearing aids, actually, yeah. | ||
| It took a while before people realized the negative impact of firearms. | ||
| Yeah, my father was hearing it for sure, yeah. | ||
| All my friends, though, that grew up with guns that are my age, they didn't understand hearing protection back then. | ||
| Right, absolutely. | ||
| Nor did rock and roll stars. | ||
| I mean, how many rock stars have serious ear problems? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Like, the thing you love is destroying your ears. | ||
| We just didn't know. | ||
| We just didn't know. | ||
| I have earplugs in my life. | ||
| In my life, earplugs are part of my life. | ||
| Okay, what percentage of your life are worn earplugs? | ||
| Jamie. | ||
| Earplugs are part of my life, man. | ||
| Well, now, because you're aware. | ||
| I have over-the-ear headphones, and I have internal ear orange. | ||
| What I'm getting at is people like your dad and people that grew up before they really understood. | ||
| I've never even thought about that, actually, until now, that you mentioned that. | ||
| It's a big problem. | ||
| Big problem with rock stars. | ||
| Lead singer of ACDC recently had a step down, right? | ||
| Isn't that still correct? | ||
| Is he... | ||
| Let's see if we can... | ||
| It's a real problem for rock stars, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When rock stars get old, they develop like real problems with their ears. | ||
| I mean, you got to think about being like fucking Gene Simmons and how thousands and thousands and thousands of concerts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He's actually back. | ||
| He has hearing aids now. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| They fixed his ears. | ||
| Who? | ||
| Put up the story. | ||
| Who did? | ||
| Brian Johnson. | ||
| He's the lead singer of ACDC, son. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, they put a new album out, right? | ||
| Overcame hearing issues and returned to ACDC. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So they gave them some earpieces. | ||
| Well, that's good news. | ||
| Because that's a bummer, man. | ||
| Imagine, like, you're a fucking rock star and the one thing you can't do is go out there and rock. | ||
| And not only that, you're the lead singer of ACDC. You know? | ||
| I mean, that's a wild-ass band. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably one of the greatest rock and roll bands ever, right? | ||
| I mean, when you think about, like, if you're, like, right on, like, a piece of paper, rock and roll, and then you put under it, you put the ACDC logo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Rolling Stones. | ||
| Back in Black. | ||
| God damn, that's a good song. | ||
| The problem is you've heard it so many times. | ||
| You don't ever get to hear it with fresh ears. | ||
| But if you can go and listen to Back in Black the first time. | ||
| I remember the first time I heard it. | ||
| I guess I was in high school. | ||
| Somewhere around then? | ||
| I mean, when did Back in Black come out? | ||
| What year? | ||
| Take a guess. | ||
| 83? | ||
| No, that must have been... | ||
| Oh, was it not 79 or 80? | ||
| I'm fucking wildly guessing. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Probably early 80s, late 70s. | ||
| I didn't discover it until I was in high school. | ||
| Early 80s or late 70s? | ||
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80. Okay, 80. So split the difference. | |
| We were both kind of in the middle. | ||
| It's that music for the time when I first heard it. | ||
| I was like, holy shit. | ||
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Da-dum, da-dum, da-dum, da-dum, da-dum. | |
| You were like, holy shit! | ||
| It had so much impact. | ||
| When you listen to songs, like even from songs, like I couldn't imagine what it would have been like to hear Hendrix the first time. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like that's a very famous interaction. | ||
| Because you're talking about, at that point you're talking about like... | ||
| Pure genius, too. | ||
| Well, they hadn't even thought about the idea of being aggressive yet with music. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, he was pure genius. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pure. | ||
| Like, this weird guitarist. | ||
| Before it was all, let's be nice with the music. | ||
| All of a sudden, it's like, aggressive. | ||
| I'm angry. | ||
| Well, it was also... | ||
| Was there anger in... | ||
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Well, no. | |
| I don't know if you would even say... | ||
| Angry. | ||
| Just energetic. | ||
| I don't know if you need to say angry. | ||
| I think what Hendrix did was... | ||
| You could kind of call some of it aggressive, but more, I would say, energetic. | ||
| His energy was just different. | ||
| He would play the sounds. | ||
| People have a way of making the guitar sound. | ||
| It's so interesting. | ||
| It's almost like... | ||
| They're using their voice or something. | ||
| There's a sound that you can make with a guitar that other folks can't make. | ||
| So, yeah, well, I mean, yeah, so, in my opinion, some people are like... | ||
| Are we cheering again? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cheers. | ||
| In my opinion, some people are, like, kind of, like, in the moment more, and they're not thinking... | ||
| It's like what we've talked about tonight with, you know, with your show and your incredible success in this show. | ||
| Like, Jimi Hendrix had that same kind of energy where he, like... | ||
| Didn't want to play it the way everybody was supposed to be playing the guitar. | ||
| He just wanted to fucking put his energy into it. | ||
| Yeah, and he played the way he wanted to. | ||
| I don't know how to play guitar at all. | ||
| But someone told me, Jamie, did he play guitar backwards or something? | ||
| Like he had the other hand? | ||
| Left-handed, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but he played it with his right hand? | ||
| I'm not sure how weird. | ||
| I think they made a special guitar, so he played it opposite. | ||
| He played it weird. | ||
| He's just a genius. | ||
| He just figured it out in a way. | ||
| But there's certain people that come along where you listen to their shit. | ||
| You listen to Voodoo Child and you're like, oh my god. | ||
| You listen to him play that song and you go, oh my god, this guy's in some place that no guitarist has ever been. | ||
| And he's like inventing... | ||
| Rock and roll in a lot of ways. | ||
| Those guitar solos that we hear in every song as we were growing up was all people being inspired by that. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| There's always going to be a guy that's at the head of the pack and he's that guy. | ||
| He still to this day is that guy. | ||
| That's the craziest thing about Hendrix. | ||
| If you stop and think about Hendrix, today, there's some brilliant guitarists, there's no doubt. | ||
| But when people today think about amazing rock and roll guitar, you think Jimi Hendrix. | ||
| In 2020, you just do. | ||
| It doesn't discredit all the great guitarists that are alive today. | ||
| When you think about the guitar, you think about Jimi Hendrix. | ||
| Voodoo Child, when it first came out, must have blown people's minds. | ||
| Was it like 69? | ||
| When did Voodoo Child Slight Return come out? | ||
| He did two versions. | ||
| He did a Voodoo Child that was like a bluesy, slow version. | ||
| It's really cool and spooky. | ||
| It came out in 68. 68. Have you ever heard the statement that, like, I've heard it multiple times, but more specifically with Jimi Hendrix, that he existed in a world where he never could hear Jimi Hendrix play guitar. | ||
| Oh my gosh! | ||
| Because he was Jimi Hendrix. | ||
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Whoa, that's so deep! | |
| Of course. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Did someone say that? | ||
| I've heard it said. | ||
| I've heard it, I think, a couple other times about other people, but it sticks out with him. | ||
| He got to... | ||
| Well, I bet he did get to see Jimi Hendrix play guitar. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| That guy was on so much shit. | ||
| That's probably how he got to see Jimi Hendrix play guitar. | ||
| Probably got to see him from some LSD dimension. | ||
| Many feet away from his carbon-based body. | ||
| But let's not forget, of course, I mean, for me, because I'm, you know, like 49, am I? You tell me. | ||
| How old are you now, John? | ||
| 53. Are you really? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| On my way to death. | ||
| Halfway there, if I'm lucky. | ||
| They're coming out with new, weird shit that they're doing in people's bodies that I have a feeling they're going to be able to extend life far beyond what we think of as the threshold. | ||
| We just have to survive past the threshold. | ||
| There was something someone sent me today. | ||
| A study that showed that hyperbaric chambers with oxygen therapy. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| I saw it last night. | ||
| You saw it? | ||
| I figured you'd see it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hyperbaric chambers. | ||
| I think it's hyperbaric, right? | ||
| With oxygen. | ||
| With oxygen. | ||
| Lowered people's biological age by 20 years. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| 90 days, 5 days a week. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| 90 minutes of treatment. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| He's talking. | ||
| Hold on, let us know. | ||
| Say what you said, Jamie. | ||
| It's like, for 90 days, they did five days a week, 90 minutes of treatment, and within that time period, I think a lot of these people were 65 and older, had, however they measure it with telomeres and all that, 20% or 25 years, someone in there, younger. | ||
| I think it was 20 years younger. | ||
| It's 20%. | ||
| 20%. | ||
| And 25 years earlier. | ||
| 20% and 25 years. | ||
| You know what telomeres are? | ||
| It's an indication of your biological age, or at least one of the markers. | ||
| And the idea is that as the telomeres shrink and shorten, as you get older, they shorten. | ||
| And if you can figure out a way to lengthen your telomeres and actually lengthen your life. | ||
| I am way too stupid to know if that's exactly true. | ||
| But I do know that it's something that people like Dr. David Sinclair, and there's a lot of like... | ||
| People that really concentrate on science and its effect on telomeres and measuring telomeres, they think it's a critical part of aging and anti-aging. | ||
| So if something can come along like this where you can get into a hyperbaric chamber and for 90 days drop your biological age 20 years, we got ourselves a shark tank business, bitch! | ||
| Let's show up. | ||
| All of us dressed in fur coats. | ||
| Who wants to live forever? | ||
| Come on, boys. | ||
| Is it possible? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm a moron. | ||
| I would imagine those smart people. | ||
| I know you say that on the show, and I don't like when you say that. | ||
| You should like it. | ||
| I'm being honest. | ||
| I'm a moron. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| In comparison to the people that lengthen telomeres, I'm a moron. | ||
| There's levels to this game. | ||
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Don't say that. | |
| There's levels to this. | ||
| That's just true. | ||
| Listen to me. | ||
| I'm an honest person. | ||
| I'm an honest person. | ||
| I am definitely a moron. | ||
| You gotta trust me. | ||
| I'm just not dumber than everybody. | ||
| I appreciate that you're being humble, but you are not a moron. | ||
| No, I'm telling you, I'm a moron. | ||
| I've met people that are really, really fucking smart. | ||
| It's like, you know how people... | ||
| You know there's something that you know how to do. | ||
| You've met people that are really smart. | ||
| You're smarter than them. | ||
| No, I know people that are actually smart. | ||
| You're smarter than them. | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're smarter than most people. | ||
| Dude, you're so wrong. | ||
| And it's been frustrating for you, probably. | ||
| You gotta trust me. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because you're smarter than most people. | ||
| You're very, very, very, very hyper-no. | ||
| No, I'm crazy. | ||
| I'm trying to tell you. | ||
| There's smart people and there's crazy people. | ||
| Crazy people don't have as many fears and they get more shit done because they're not worried about the consequences. | ||
| Smart people figure out how to fix things. | ||
| Those are the smart people. | ||
| Isn't there something you do that someone doesn't really do and they think they're good at it and you get a little annoyed? | ||
| Say maybe there's a sport that you've done for a long time and someone just picks it up and they think they can kick ass at it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| I'm not that good at anything. | ||
| You should think about that with intelligence, too. | ||
| Because there's people that barely, people like myself, that barely work at being smarter. | ||
| Barely work at being smarter. | ||
| Barely. | ||
| And to compare them to people whose entire lives are based on intellectual discipline is rude. | ||
| And there's a difference. | ||
| Because you're talking to all these incredible people that literally are... | ||
| Really thinking about really complex ideas at a level that is kind of not really easy to explain to the average person. | ||
| So you can't put that in a box and send it out there. | ||
| Well, that's where Neil deGrasse Tyson is so important, right? | ||
| Because he's a guy who's really good at taking those insanely complex ideas about the cosmos and explaining them in a way that you can grasp if you have a regular person. | ||
| High school education. | ||
| You can grasp what he's saying. | ||
| So he'll resonate with people 15 to 50 to 55,000 years old. | ||
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I follow him on Twitter. | |
| I love him. | ||
| I've never met him. | ||
| What do you think is the oldest that people will ever figure out how to make people? | ||
| I was joking about 55,000, but do you think there's ever going to be a time where people can live 1,000 years? | ||
| Oh yeah, for sure. | ||
| Within our lifetime, you think? | ||
| No. | ||
| Would you want to? | ||
| Imagine how bored you'd be 800 years in dealing with 20-year-olds. | ||
| I'm bored. | ||
| Imagine if you had a 20-year-old son, you're 800, and he's fucking crazy. | ||
| I was going to say I'm bored now, but I'm not bored now because I'm sitting here with you. | ||
| Cheers. | ||
| I'm not bored now. | ||
| I'm not bored either. | ||
| I think you could tell me that like a thousand years... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, eventually we might run out of stuff to talk about. | ||
| This is my thought. | ||
| I mean, I don't know if I want to live to be a thousand. | ||
| After a thousand years, it's like, okay, we've talked about the absurdity of this or that enough times. | ||
| Maybe people figure it out after a thousand years. | ||
| Michelle Wolf was telling me yesterday that, I didn't know, was it FDR? Wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| Served three terms? | ||
| Wait, Michelle Wolf yesterday? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Was it FDR? She is so hilarious. | |
| Love her. | ||
| I love her. | ||
| That's so cool. | ||
| She's awesome. | ||
| So she was in Austin yesterday? | ||
| Yeah, she was in Austin with Chappelle. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That's so cool. | ||
| I think she said it was FDR, served three terms. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, I was like, I did not know that. | ||
| So she was saying that's one of the reasons why he was able to get so much shit done. | ||
| Like, that makes sense. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
|
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He actually won four elections, though. | |
| He won four elections? | ||
| At the very top of his Wikipedia, it says a member of the Democratic Party, he won a record four presidential elections. | ||
|
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Whoa. | |
| What does that mean? | ||
| So you can do one and then come back a couple years later and do another one? | ||
| How many years were they back then? | ||
| Because three doesn't make sense if it's ten years. | ||
| Because I think she was saying he served for ten years. | ||
| I'm trying to remember this. | ||
| This is part of the history thing. | ||
| I think he was the vice president for one president. | ||
| So he stepped in and finished out one, then won the next election, and then won another one. | ||
| There's so few people that can hold that office and not make you worry that they got it. | ||
| I go, oh, he's got it. | ||
| That guy's got it. | ||
| There's a few guys in their office. | ||
| Say whatever you want about Bill Clinton. | ||
| When Bill Clinton was the goddamn president of the United States of America, you might have thought he was doing creepy shit and running around getting his dick sucked and madness and maybe even a few people got offed. | ||
| I didn't think about any of that back then. | ||
| That's all come up in recent years. | ||
| Back then we weren't even thinking about that shit. | ||
| I felt like you had it. | ||
| He's so smart. | ||
| Bill Clinton is so clever with words. | ||
| It's nice when you feel like, okay, somebody's looking after everything. | ||
| So we can go tell jokes and do podcasts. | ||
| It's nice when you feel like someone smarter than you has the wheel. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| The people that have the wheel are not smarter than you. | ||
| You're like, fuck! | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| Well, you know, sometimes they are smarter than you and sometimes they're not, you know, and it goes back and forth. | ||
| And you just got to accept it? | ||
| It's pretty bizarre when you get to our age and you realize, oh my gosh, they're just like those... | ||
| You know, like when you talked about you go to the show and there's people with the clipboards around and everybody's around. | ||
| There's a lot of that. | ||
| That's how the world runs. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of people that want to be leaders that maybe probably shouldn't be, but in their head, they want to be. | ||
| It's just the world's run the same way. | ||
| So it's a bunch of people sitting around trying to like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| I'm trying to ignore it, Joe. | ||
| I honestly am. | ||
| I'm trying to ignore it. | ||
| And I'll say this... | ||
| Yeah, no, let me say this, for real. | ||
| I like how you just re-braced yourself, changed your posture. | ||
| For real, for real, because what I'm doing right now is like... | ||
| Move your shirt over and everything. | ||
| No, yeah, for sure, for sure. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, I mean, like, you know, we just have to, you know, I'm traveling around in my van with my dog, who's... | ||
| Chopper? | ||
| Chopper, who's gone to sleep. | ||
| What a great dog, right? | ||
| She's awesome. | ||
| She's gone to sleep and we're having a great time. | ||
| And yeah, you just have to, you know, I just really, I'm trying to be positive. | ||
| You know, I'm trying to be positive. | ||
| There's been so much negativity in our world in the last few years. | ||
| Told, oh, I gotta think this way or I gotta think this way. | ||
| And there's this anger towards each other. | ||
| I think, you know, this election, more people voted than ever voted. | ||
| You know that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy, right? | ||
| I'm hoping that also sets a trend in motion where more people are running for office that maybe could... | ||
| Have a better idea of what people want than what they're experiencing right now. | ||
| I think you are a big part of this show. | ||
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That's not helpful. | |
| I really do, though. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I think you are a big part of this. | ||
| Only for people who listen, and that's not a big part of the world. | ||
| No, I think it is a big part, and I think it's an important part, because I think that... | ||
| You know, listen, like... | ||
| Let's just be good to each other. | ||
| Let's all be positive and be good to each other. | ||
| I know, it sounds so cliche, right? | ||
| But it really is the way to do it. | ||
| You don't have to be embarrassed about being good to your fellow man. | ||
| But we're all worried that other people aren't going to be good to us back. | ||
| And so we're ready to be shitty. | ||
| Yeah, don't worry about that. | ||
| That's where MDMA comes in. | ||
| So what I want to do is a long-term trial of MDMA across the United States of America where everybody just gets a little taste. | ||
| Imagine if you ran on that platform. | ||
| I've never done MDMA. MDMA for everybody. | ||
| I've never done MDMA. Is that a... | ||
| It's ecstasy. | ||
| Ecstasy, yeah. | ||
| I've never done ecstasy. | ||
| It's pretty potent stuff. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, it's also not great for your brain. | ||
| I did it and then the next day I was like, oh my god, I'm so dumb. | ||
| My brain was dried out. | ||
| It felt like a sponge that someone just rang dry. | ||
| But then after a couple days it goes away and you're like, oh, let's try that again. | ||
| That was pretty fun. | ||
| I didn't know you really take 5-HTP. There's a thing you could take a nutrient, 5-HTP, and actually it boosts your body's ability to... | ||
| I've never done ecstasy, by the way. | ||
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Ever? | |
| I'm telling you right now, on the record, I've never done it. | ||
| What if you did it alone, in the woods? | ||
| I am telling you right now, I would do it. | ||
| But I'm not saying I wouldn't do it. | ||
| I'm not passing judgment. | ||
| But I've never done it. | ||
| Actually, that's true. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| I've never done ecstasy. | ||
| And I would do ecstasy, but I've never done it. | ||
| Sounds like you're asking for ecstasy. | ||
| If I was a cop, I'd want to arrest you right now. | ||
| I'm like, this motherfucker is asking for people to give him ecstasy. | ||
| No, I am not. | ||
| Do you got any? | ||
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I know people who have it. | |
| Yeah, no. | ||
| I'm not asking for it. | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| It's a tricky drug. | ||
| You don't want to be happy for no reason. | ||
| But it is true that I've never done it, by the way. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I think I heard that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
| You got any? | ||
| I heard you never did it. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But I... I can imagine it would be probably a lot of fun, though. | ||
| I could imagine it would be. | ||
| It's supposed to be very therapeutic for soldiers. | ||
| Soldiers returning with PTSD, apparently MDMA is very, very good for them in overcoming some of the situations they experienced. | ||
| Can I say something about the Canadian military? | ||
| Okay, you gonna put your hat on? | ||
| You gotta move the hat. | ||
| You're getting excited. | ||
| You don't have to put it on. | ||
| So, check this out, Joe. | ||
| These boots. | ||
| I made for walking. | ||
| Can I show you this? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Is that okay? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Check this out. | ||
| See these boots? | ||
| I don't think Jamie can see them though. | ||
| Can you see them? | ||
| Where's your... | ||
| Check that out. | ||
| Yeah, it's a boot. | ||
| Seriously, can you show that? | ||
| This is going to be cool. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| These are Canadian Army boots. | ||
| Okay? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| I wore these. | ||
| I got them when I went to Afghanistan and did a tour with the Canadian army. | ||
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Dad. | |
| My dad was in Canadian Army. | ||
| My dad, Canadian Army. | ||
| And, you know, check it out, man. | ||
| Like, these are good boots. | ||
| I'll tell you right now. | ||
| Are you telling me about your boots? | ||
| Is this what we've come to? | ||
| Canadian Army boots. | ||
| Maybe we should wrap this up. | ||
| Yeah, they're boots, right? | ||
| What do they have, like rubber, leather, a lot of shit like that? | ||
| Yeah, they're comfortable. | ||
| Laces? | ||
| Really comfortable, yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| It probably is a good time to run. | ||
| Why are you showing off your boots? | ||
| Can I have another problem with that? | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| When you're showing people your army boots and say, you really need to get on this. | ||
| These army boots are super special. | ||
| They're boots. | ||
| They're from Canada. | ||
| I think when you're Canadian, you're a little proud of our Canadian. | ||
| We have a lot of stuff in Canada that people don't talk about. | ||
| They don't talk about it in America. | ||
| You need a song. | ||
| Well, I'm proud to be a Canadian, where I'm kind of sort of free. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very free, very free, very free. | ||
| Sort of free. | ||
| Very, very free. | ||
| You don't have the First Amendment, though, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| You know the story about Mike Ward, comedian, who... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I do. | ||
| Yeah, I know Mike. | ||
| He got in trouble, and then there was another guy who got in trouble who was involved in a heckling situation where these women were heckling him. | ||
| He said horrible shit to them, and they sued him, and then they won in court. | ||
| It's a different sort of a situation over there. | ||
| It's like they were insulting each other back and forth, and he's on stage doing stand-up. | ||
| And he wound up losing a shitload of money. | ||
| Remember that, Jamie? | ||
| I believe he was Vancouver. | ||
| Montreal. | ||
| He was Montreal? | ||
| That was Mike Ward. | ||
| This guy was a different guy. | ||
| This guy, I believe, was BC. The one who lost the lawsuit to the ladies in the audience who were heckling him. | ||
| I have not heard about that, actually. | ||
| I know Mike, though, but Mike's a good guy. | ||
| Yeah, I met Mike. | ||
| He's funny as fuck, by the way. | ||
| I heard he's very good stand-up. | ||
| No, no, Mike is hilarious. | ||
| I did a podcast with Mike. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| And I want to shout out to Mike Ward. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Lesbian wins. | ||
| Why do they have to say lesbian? | ||
| That's not Mike, by the way. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| But isn't that fucked up? | ||
| But hold on a second. | ||
| Guy Earle is the name of the comic. | ||
| But look what it says. | ||
| Lesbian wins $22,500 over comedians' insults. | ||
| Lesbian. | ||
| How about woman? | ||
| That's a weird headline. | ||
| I mean, I gotta admit. | ||
| I gotta admit, that's a weird headline. | ||
| That is an identity politics headline. | ||
| Lesbian wins money. | ||
| Oh, we know which side you should be on, Tom Green. | ||
| Not on the side of jokes. | ||
| I honestly have no comment on that. | ||
| I don't even know what's going on with that. | ||
| You should not be on the side of defending yourself against hecklers or trying to ruin a show. | ||
| No. | ||
| You should be on the side of the lesbians. | ||
| I think it was actually, in all fairness, because one of the things that he said about her was that she was a dyke or something like that. | ||
| I think it was just like one of those situations that I'm sure you've experienced at comedy shows where people are drunk and they're yelling shit, the comics yelling shit at the audience members. | ||
| Joe, Joe, Joe. | ||
| Your shirt. | ||
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Iron Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Jr. Yeah, next week, man. | |
| Tell me about this because I actually don't know. | ||
| November 28th. | ||
| I actually don't know. | ||
| I don't know a lot about that. | ||
| You didn't know about this fight? | ||
| Well, I know about it. | ||
| I do know about it. | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| I'm just not as in tune with the history of fights. | ||
| Well, they're two of the all-time greats. | ||
| And listen, they're both in great shape. | ||
| Roy Jones Jr. has this crazy footage on his page. | ||
| Israel Adesanya added to Mike Tyson's vs. | ||
| Ward Jones. | ||
| What? | ||
| Oh, no shit. | ||
| Alongside Sugar Ray Leonard, oh my god, and Al Bernstein. | ||
| That's an amazing lineup. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| They're smart. | ||
| They're on the ball. | ||
| First of all, Stylebender is the biggest superstar in the UFC right now. | ||
| So to have him and Khabib Nurmagomedov, the two biggest superstars in the UFC, for sure. | ||
| And Jon Jones. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of superstars. | ||
| But the point is, having him be on a Mike Tyson card automatically boosts it up. | ||
| And Larry Merchant... | ||
| No, Al Bernstein. | ||
| Al Bernstein, right? | ||
| Not Larry Merchant? | ||
| Al Bernstein's an awesome boxing commentator. | ||
| And it's a weird fight because everybody wanted to see that fight. | ||
| There was talk of that fight back when Roy Jones won the heavyweight title. | ||
| He beat John Ruiz. | ||
| And he was like about 200 pounds. | ||
| And Tyson in his prime was like 215, 225 in that range. | ||
| And they had talked about those two fighting and it never came to play. | ||
| So to see it happen when one is 54 and one is 51, it's crazy. | ||
| But Roy Jones looks insane, man. | ||
| I know everybody talks about how good Tyson looks, and Tyson looks incredible. | ||
| The videos of Tyson hitting the pads, and he's doing it with Rafael Cordero, who's this very well-respected MMA striking coach. | ||
| Rafael Cordero is legendary in the sport of MMA. He runs Kings Academy, Kings MMA in Orange County or Huntington Beach. | ||
| Where's Kings MMA? I think their base is like Huntington. | ||
| Anyway, Rafael Cordero's been training Mike Tyson. | ||
| There's all these videos of Mike Tyson hitting the pads, and it's fucking insane. | ||
| He's so fast. | ||
| He looks so good. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But then you've got to watch the Roy Jones Jr. clips. | ||
| There's Roy Jones Jr. clips that were put up over the last couple of days that are Roy ramping up for the fight. | ||
| He's 51. He's 51. You can't believe how fast his hands are. | ||
| At 51, he's like, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. | ||
| He's throwing all these combinations. | ||
| He's like, oh my god, you forget. | ||
| Like his song? | ||
| You like rap music? | ||
| Y'all must have forgot. | ||
| He's got a song. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Roy Jones Jr., when he was in the middle of beating the fuck out of everybody, when he was the number one pound-for-pound fighter on the planet with no questions asked, he was also making rap music. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, y'all must have forgot. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Just about what a beast he is. | ||
| Well, listen. | ||
| He should be. | ||
| It's an interesting fight, man. | ||
| It's interesting because some people are against it. | ||
| They're like, I don't want to see these guys fight. | ||
| I don't want to see these guys get hurt. | ||
| But listen, that has been their whole business. | ||
| Look how good Roy Jr.'s hands look. | ||
| Is this one of the recent ones over the last few days? | ||
| The most recent ones. | ||
| Look how fucking fast his hands are, man. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Oh, this is like a CBD ad. | ||
| What kind of CBD is it? | ||
| Oh, this is his company. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Left Hook CBD. No bullshit. | ||
| Roy Jones Jr.'s left bicep is 30% larger than his right bicep. | ||
| It's weird to look at, right? | ||
| Wasn't it weird, Jamie? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It freaks you out. | ||
| It might be more than 30%. | ||
| I might be selling it short. | ||
| Is that his punching hand? | ||
| His left is his front hand, and he throws a lot of hooks, so his bicep is really big. | ||
| It's enormous. | ||
| He jokes around about how much bigger it is than his right one. | ||
| So when you got into UFC and fighting, do you enjoy that? | ||
| Well, yes, I do enjoy it. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I mean, like... | ||
| So what do you do? | ||
| Like, hey, next week, let's go spar in the gym? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Let's go fight? | ||
| I still do, like, little jujitsu rolling, but I don't spar, like, striking anymore. | ||
| So how's that? | ||
| Like, do you do that, though? | ||
| Like, you go... | ||
| Fight with people? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| When you have gloves on and you hit each other in the head... | ||
| It sounds like it would be fun as hell. | ||
| I've never done that in my life, by the way. | ||
| I'm trying to tell you it's not good for you. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| You should do that if that's what you want to do for a career or if you're young and you want to see how good you can get at it. | ||
| But when you get to a certain point in your life, you shouldn't be getting hit in the head anymore. | ||
| Because getting hit in the head is like getting poked in the eyes. | ||
| You don't get stronger. | ||
| We're talking about eyes. | ||
| As you get older, your eyes, even if you work out hard with them, they fall apart. | ||
| It's not like any other system in your body where you can train it to be stronger. | ||
| You can train your muscular system. | ||
| You can train a lot of the things you do. | ||
| You get it like a pathway grooved where you know exactly, like martial arts are that way, where you know exactly how to do it. | ||
| And as you do it longer and longer in your life, you get better at doing it. | ||
| Not with your eyes, and not with getting hit in the head. | ||
| Those are two things. | ||
| When something happens bad to your eyes or something happens bad to your head, it does not get better. | ||
| It gets a little better. | ||
| But if you keep getting hit in the head, it's going to get worse and worse and worse. | ||
| So don't spar. | ||
| That's what I'm telling you. | ||
| Yeah, I love that. | ||
| People think that it's just sparring. | ||
| But you're getting hit in the head. | ||
| You're calling it just sparring. | ||
| And it is just sparring. | ||
| Some sparring I think is important. | ||
| I've never done that. | ||
| And now that I think about it, I haven't thought about this before. | ||
| That sounds like that would be probably a pretty exciting and fun thing to do. | ||
| I have been punched in the head a few times, Joe. | ||
| I'm sure you have. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| Maybe once or twice. | ||
| I think most men, by the time you get to be a certain age, something's hit you in the head. | ||
| Not more than ten times. | ||
| But my point is, and this is not to diminish anybody who loves sparring. | ||
| If you love sparring, just like if you love riding a dirt bike, go ahead and do it. | ||
| I want you to do whatever the fuck you want. | ||
| For some people, the value of sparring and getting that aggression out is worth whatever brain damage they might get. | ||
| Or it's like skateboarding too. | ||
| It's about risk. | ||
| It's about risk. | ||
| We need to take a risk because it makes us feel like we're alive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're taking a risk. | ||
| So that's what it is. | ||
| I think it's a freedom issue too. | ||
| You should be free to get punched in the head. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you want to do it. | ||
| If you and your buddy want to get together and punch each other in the head, I don't think anybody should be able to stop you. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But as your friend... | ||
| I want to tell you that you have to think about getting hit in the head differently than is the standard narrative amongst men that don't think about it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The thing is like, don't be a pussy, put your gloves on. | ||
| Listen, if you get hit in the head too much, your brain doesn't work well anymore. | ||
| It just stops functioning at a high level. | ||
| I... Start developing all sorts of problems. | ||
| I... I don't... | ||
| Yeah, so... | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| You want some coffee? | ||
| No, I'm good, dude. | ||
| Yeah, I... Don't spar, Tom Green. | ||
| That's what I'm saying to you. | ||
| And don't listen to me. | ||
| If you want to spar, go ahead and spar. | ||
| For some people, it's better for them because they don't feel depressed. | ||
| Like, they can get their exertion out in sparring and they're fine with it for now. | ||
| And they're just going to deal with that. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But it's just... | ||
| There's a reality of getting hit in the head too many times. | ||
| There's only so many you have in you. | ||
| Yeah, it's a better thing to avoid. | ||
| Before the wheels fall off. | ||
| Yeah, avoid it if you can. | ||
| Yeah, well, listen, I mean, I probably have been in a few of those, but Joe, this is good. | ||
| Can I bring Charlie back into the equation for a second? | ||
| You must. | ||
| Charlie. | ||
| What do you want to bring her back to the equation for? | ||
| By the way, her new name is Chopper. | ||
| I don't have to, but... | ||
| I don't know why I thought your dog was Chopper. | ||
| Where did I get that one from? | ||
| Did someone say it? | ||
| I feel like someone said it. | ||
| Yeah, I might have said... | ||
| Don't be nice to me. | ||
| If I made it up, let me know I made it up. | ||
| I'm not worried. | ||
| This dog is so cool. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Yeah, I feel really... | ||
| Are you a salesman for products I've already bought? | ||
| Yes, this dog. | ||
| I'm just happy about how nice this doggy is. | ||
| She's a good girl. | ||
| She's a young puppy that got really lucky. | ||
| She's a good girl. | ||
| I can tell by the way you guys cuddle. | ||
| You guys cuddle a lot. | ||
| She loves you. | ||
| She's a nice doggy. | ||
| Do you have any plans to do another comedy special? | ||
| I can't wait to do one. | ||
| When do you think you'll be comfortable enough to get in front of crowds? | ||
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Tonight? | |
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What would we have to do to get you on stage tonight? | ||
| Ask me to come with you. | ||
| Is there a show going on? | ||
| You wouldn't be worried to get into a big COVID soup? | ||
| I would be, but it's Joe Rogan asking me to go to a show in Austin, so that's different. | ||
| We don't have a show tonight. | ||
| If I had a show tonight, I would do it. | ||
| I did a show last night for the first time in a week, and the show before that I did the first time in July. | ||
| But if you were serious tonight right now, of course, yeah. | ||
| My point is, you're comfortable doing a show. | ||
| If you did a show tonight— No, not at all. | ||
| You're not? | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| But you take a risk. | ||
| Some small amount of risk. | ||
| Yeah, if right now there was a show, I'd go do a show. | ||
| Yeah, because it'd be hilarious. | ||
| We'd go have a good time. | ||
| It'd be great. | ||
| But I would not plan on going out. | ||
| I'm not trying to go do stand-up right now. | ||
| You're going to wait for the vaccine? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's what I'm doing. | ||
| I hope it works. | ||
| That's what I'm doing. | ||
| We talked to Nicholas Christakis a couple of days ago, and he was telling us about the vaccine, how it would work. | ||
| And I'm like, if it was proven to be effective and safe, I'd take it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I would want to know, man. | ||
| I want to talk to those doctors. | ||
| I want to know, tell me what you did. | ||
| Do you get the flu shot? | ||
| No. | ||
| I get the flu shot every year. | ||
| Congratulations, Tom Green! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How's that immune system? | ||
| I like the flu shot. | ||
| When was the last time you got the flu? | ||
| I haven't had it since I started getting the flu shot. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I used to get it all the time. | ||
| Coincidence? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It was instantly. | ||
| As soon as I started getting the flu shot, I never got the flu again. | ||
| Jamie, when was the last time you got the flu? | ||
| It did exactly what it said it was supposed to do. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| I don't know if I honestly have ever even had it now that I've heard how mad it is. | ||
| Oh, I get it every year. | ||
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I go down to CVS, boom, boom, 26. And you never get the flu because you get the flu shot. | |
| So, yeah. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| So, well, this is what happened, okay? | ||
| You'll appreciate this, okay? | ||
| This is... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is... | ||
| So, I guess it was like... | ||
| When I started doing stand-up again... | ||
| I was, you know, going out on the road every weekend. | ||
| I would get the flu every year. | ||
| And then I decided to start taking the flu shot and I never got the flu again. | ||
| But, yeah, so, yeah, I think it works. | ||
| Well, that's anecdotal evidence, Tom Green. | ||
| And I'm going to take it into account. | ||
| We're going to go over this and apply it to all the other data and we'll get back to you. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| If we believe your flu shot theory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Might be a crock of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I think flu shots are probably great. | ||
| But I also think that keeping your immune system strong is great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you've got to be on the ball. | ||
| And I think people don't want to hear that shit. | ||
| I need to know. | ||
| They want to be able to just go to the doctor and get it fixed. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I need to know. | ||
| I do need to be more aware of how. | ||
| To look after myself physically, like, you know, what am I supposed to be doing? | ||
| Well, you know, there's a simple bodyweight exercise program that you could do while you're out in these remote locations. | ||
| You don't need anything. | ||
| I have weights with me. | ||
| Oh, do you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what sometimes is even better than weights? | ||
| I got two 25-pound dumbbells. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| And I just do that. | ||
| Sometimes what's even better than weights is bands. | ||
| But I do it like once every seven days I'll do it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I'm not being very attentive to my health, to be honest with you. | ||
| How come? | ||
| Come on in and talk on that microphone, Tom Green. | ||
| Well, you know, I mean, I... All right. | ||
| Well, you know, listen, I'm... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| You think about everything that's going on in the world all the time. | ||
| It rattles around in your head and you start to think like... | ||
| Are you an empathic person? | ||
| Are you an empath? | ||
| I mean, in what sense? | ||
| I don't know if I'm using that word correctly. | ||
| When you say an empathic person, someone who's deeply in tune to other people's suffering, I think that's how I'm trying to use it. | ||
| Is that a correct definition? | ||
| I think I am, yes. | ||
| I think I am, yes, yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The answer is yes. | ||
| I'm trying to use a positive word for a sensitive person. | ||
| Showing an ability to understand and share feelings of another. | ||
| I think that is what I am. | ||
| You seem like that kind of a guy when shit is awful. | ||
| When you say, can we all just get along? | ||
| Some people say you have a real sincerity to the way you're saying it. | ||
| It's like you really do want everybody to... | ||
| Your happiness would be enhanced if people were getting along better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For sure, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, we should all just be having a good time. | ||
| I think we need to embrace those ideas. | ||
| If there's anything that we can do as individuals, because society is so whack right now. | ||
| It's just so out of tune. | ||
| But the only thing that we can do to each other is create the minimal amount of damage. | ||
| Be as nice to each other as we can. | ||
| I'm not saying stop joking around. | ||
| I'm not saying just keep your mouth shut and don't... | ||
| Talk about things you know that are wrong. | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| I'm just saying there's ways in most of the ways we interact with each other where we could be nice to each other. | ||
| We have to just think of ourselves as being in this together. | ||
| You're not a Republican. | ||
| You're not a Democrat. | ||
| You're a fucking human being. | ||
| And this idea that you have to be on that side or this side, you have to support him or him or her or what the fuck ever, you don't. | ||
| Most of these people that are talking about politicians and these ideas that they're fighting over as a cornerstone of their life, they don't even really deeply understand the people they're talking about, the people that they support. | ||
| There's a lot of things they're missing. | ||
| The person syncs up with a good enough idea, that's my team, I'm a fucking Raiders fan, dolphins can suck my ass! | ||
| And next thing you know, you're looking at it the same way a sports fan does. | ||
| And that's what most people do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think it's fucking nonsense. | ||
| You just have to have shit in your own... | ||
| Like, we all have these weird competitive drives and instincts. | ||
| That's why people love to get dedicated to teams. | ||
| You want the fucking buccaneers to go out there and kick some ass, right? | ||
| They get really dedicated to it. | ||
| It means a lot to them. | ||
| It feels good to them. | ||
| But it's a trap. | ||
| It's a trap. | ||
| And it's the same trap that leads you to Republican versus Democrat. | ||
| That same goddamn trap... | ||
| It's not good for any of us. | ||
| And most of the argument is started out with, you're on that side, this person's on the other side. | ||
| And then you're like, well, they can't be right because they're not over here. | ||
| And then you become married to you being right, and they become married to them being right, and you're just duking it out. | ||
| And people will lie and fucking manipulate to try to win the argument. | ||
| And that's more common than not. | ||
| That's the weirdest thing about us. | ||
| And this is the basest, most primate level of screaming at each other. | ||
| That is all happening right now, just filtered through really sophisticated law and language and behavior in Congress and the Senate. | ||
| It's all the same thing. | ||
| It's just like this, wah! | ||
| And they're duking it out. | ||
| They're all duking it out. | ||
| The left and the right, the news anchors, the people on MSNBC and Fox News, and everybody's like, all super ineffective ways of communicating. | ||
| Everybody's screaming into the night. | ||
| Doesn't it seem like that, kind of? | ||
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That's what it is. | |
| It seems like that's what it is. | ||
| Kind of, right? | ||
| It's not a good way to handle this. | ||
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Oh my gosh. | |
| It's not a good way to handle this. | ||
| The best way to handle this is for everybody to just agree to be nice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Start from that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Start from that and let's go over the differences. | ||
| Let's go over the issues that we... | ||
| How much money do you think should go to education? | ||
| And why? | ||
| Why is education so cheap to you? | ||
| How much do you think it costs to pay a teacher? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| How much should it cost? | ||
| Like, is it a matter of how much you don't want to give up in taxes or is it a matter of how much a teacher is actually worth? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because we got a lot of things that we would all agree on. | ||
| If we could put it into a perspective of this is how much is actually going to impact you in terms of how much you have to pay. | ||
| This is as much how it can actually impact you into how much your... | ||
| The actual quality of life, the quality of life in your community is, how much it gets improved. | ||
| I think most people would be willing, if they were absolutely certain, to know that the quality of their life would improve where they live if they could just add more to the tax pool. | ||
| They would probably do it happily. | ||
| Most people. | ||
| If they really thought that it would enhance everybody, that we're all on the same side. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| People think they're getting fucked. | ||
| That's part of the problem. | ||
| They think they're getting fucked and they think they're getting manipulated. | ||
| Why do they think that? | ||
| Let's go with California. | ||
| I don't think that. | ||
| In California, when you're paying 13% in taxes, you're like, where's my money going? | ||
| How come you can go to Nevada and you pay zero? | ||
| How come I drive an hour that way and I pay zero? | ||
| What am I doing here? | ||
| Why am I paying so much money? | ||
| A lot of people think like that. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| Yeah, that makes sense, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I guess, you know, I don't know. | ||
| I personally just kind of, you know, I was driving here today, right? | ||
| Austin, Texas. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| And this guy at the freeway, and people asking for money on the side of the freeway, you know, and you're like... | ||
| Tell him to get a job? | ||
| No, I did not, you know? | ||
| I did not. | ||
| I feel bad that we have to have that going on in our world. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's very unfortunate whenever you see it. | ||
| Because what it represents to me is a baby. | ||
| They grew up and became a person that finds themselves on the side of the road asking for money. | ||
| And I don't know what's nature and I don't know what's nurture. | ||
| I don't know what is drug addiction. | ||
| I don't know what's abuse. | ||
| I don't know what gets a person to that point. | ||
| I don't know their life. | ||
| But when I see them, that's what makes me sad. | ||
| What makes me sad is that a person would get to this position and not have anybody to turn to, not have anybody they can rely on, not have anybody they love that loves them back. | ||
| That's what that is. | ||
| If you see a person on the street, you're dealing with either drug addiction or a person who doesn't have anybody who really loves them, and they never grew up with someone who loves them, so they don't understand love, they're bad at relationships, they're bad at communication, and they find themselves under a fucking overpass somewhere. | ||
| I think that should be something that we're all more aware of and we have empathy towards people. | ||
| That are in that situation. | ||
| When you look at a city like Los Angeles, for example, that's filled with tents, you're failing these people. | ||
| Whatever you're doing to take care of, if you really want to be empathetic towards people that are homeless or people that are down on their luck or people that are downtrodden, you've got to fix that. | ||
| I don't know how to do it. | ||
| I'm a comedian. | ||
| You fix it. | ||
| You have to come up with ideas to fix it. | ||
| You can't let it get worse every year because it just keeps getting worse. | ||
| LA is bananas right now. | ||
| Since you've left, how many tents do you think they've popped up? | ||
| One million. | ||
| One million new tents. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I just made that number up. | ||
| Yeah, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I will say, like, it is sad when you drive around in the city, and you're in this beautiful city, Los Angeles, with all its history and everything, and it's a beautiful place, and there's people sleeping under this. | ||
| Yeah, it's a bar. | ||
| Under the bridge in a tent, you're like, man, come on, you know? | ||
| You know what happens though, man? | ||
| Let's get this together, people. | ||
| We should be able to help these people. | ||
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Right. | |
| But you know what happens? | ||
| These people develop communities. | ||
| And then they're all hanging out together on this, like, tent strip. | ||
| And they know each other. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's not ideal. | ||
| But then they start thinking about these people that are in apartments, working shitty jobs, hating their lives. | ||
| And they're like, I don't know if this is any better or worse. | ||
| A lot of people have that perspective. | ||
| You could live on the beach in Santa Monica. | ||
| Set up a tent. | ||
| You don't need much if you're one of those dudes. | ||
| There's a lot of dudes out there like, I don't need much. | ||
| I don't even have shoes. | ||
| Yeah, I feel like that. | ||
| I'm living in a van down by the river now. | ||
| That's why I brought it up. | ||
| You're closing in on that I don't need much sort of thing. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It's funny how Charlie has been so quiet. | ||
| Has she been the best dog? | ||
| She's an awesome dog. | ||
| I know a dude who started out doing what you were doing and then eventually just decided to travel. | ||
| He's a fitness guy, Steve Maxwell. | ||
| Eventually just traveled all over the world. | ||
| Got rid of his van. | ||
| Stopped living in his van. | ||
| And started living in hotels and living wherever he gets hired to do gigs. | ||
| Just travel all over the world doing that. | ||
| Teaching fitness. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Gave up on all his worldly possessions. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| He lives out of a bag on his back. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is he... | ||
| I mean, listen, it's fun to be able to explore the planet. | ||
| Do you like going to other places? | ||
| Do you like going to new countries? | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| What's your favorite country that you've been to? | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Maybe Italy. | ||
| Okay, yeah. | ||
| Because I got a chance to go to the Vatican and you see the art collection. | ||
| Oh, that's cool. | ||
| And you wander around that place and just think of what kind of insane history it was. | ||
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Wow. | |
| In that time of the world where Rome was conquering everything. | ||
| I went to Rome and saw the Colosseum and you're standing in this place where for who knows how many hundreds of years gladiators fought to the death. | ||
| And you're just thinking about how bananas this whole situation must have been when this place was filled and they would lift up the fucking bottom of the floor and there'd be a tiger and a dude with a sword would fight off a tiger. | ||
| Like, what the fuck, man? | ||
| Like, this really happened? | ||
| And then you also see the beauty in their artwork. | ||
| There's something about Italy, also because I'm Italian, so it makes me think of my ancestors. | ||
| So when I'm wandering around this weird place, I'm like... | ||
| You guys were freaks. | ||
| I was like, no wonder I'm fucked up. | ||
| You guys were freaks. | ||
| You guys were freaks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's incredible. | ||
| The Coliseum is bananas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You just sit there and you think, like, how many years did people entertain themselves with other people getting slaughtered? | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| I read some insane statistic about how many people died in the Colosseum over the many hundreds of years that it was around. | ||
| Wait, how many was it? | ||
| I forget. | ||
| I think it was hundreds of thousands. | ||
| It's too many. | ||
| It was an estimation. | ||
| I don't know if the estimation was even correct. | ||
| No amount would be too many, but it was too many. | ||
| Let's guess. | ||
| I want to say it's close to 200,000 plus people died. | ||
| How many people died? | ||
| More. | ||
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More? | |
| What? | ||
| 400,000? | ||
| 400,000. | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| So I knew it was in the hundreds of thousands. | ||
| So 400,000 people died in the Colosseum. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And a million... | ||
| 400,000? | ||
| And a million animals. | ||
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Okay. | |
| A million. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| 400,000 people and a million animals. | ||
| Over a period of how long, Jamie? | ||
| 400 years. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| So think about America. | ||
| I want you to think of 1620. Imagine. | ||
| A coliseum built in 1620 is still rocking today. | ||
| There's a dude about to fight to the death with a fucking elephant. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's got a spear and a shield. | ||
| He's gonna fight to the death with an elephant. | ||
| He's probably gonna get his legs snapped in half. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As the elephant stomps him as he shoves his fucking spear into its heart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he's going to drag himself over to the elephant and finish it off. | ||
| Wow, that sounds so stressful. | ||
| Super stressful. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah, they used to fill the bottom of the Colosseum up with water. | ||
| That is so stressful. | ||
| Super stressful. | ||
| Did they not want to just like chill out and just like go look at stuff? | ||
| That's the thing, man. | ||
| Italians are bananas. | ||
| Why not just like, hey, let's just look at everything and not do anything? | ||
| Dude, when I was there, I don't know if they do this for a show for American tourists, but when I was there, I had one of my daughters in the car with me and this fucking Italian dude in Rome stops the car like almost in the middle of an intersection to compliment some woman on her figure. | ||
| He's like, oh, maro! | ||
| Look at this one over here! | ||
| Like, literally a caricature and drives off. | ||
| I'm like, oh, Rome! | ||
| This is what happens to all the savages from Rome. | ||
| They've, like, my people. | ||
| They've turned into this now. | ||
| Now they're just... | ||
| Nutty, nutty male taxi drivers. | ||
| But when you see what they did in the Coliseum, what they decided to do was build up an arena where people would fight to the death. | ||
| And it became... | ||
| That's a pretty crazy thing. | ||
| ...one of the most famous arenas in the history of the world. | ||
| Right? | ||
| If you stop and think about the history of the world, what is more famous in terms of... | ||
| Like an arena where you know that people did crazy shit and fought to the death. | ||
| There's no other place. | ||
| There's the Coliseum and that's it. | ||
| There's no other place where you think of that immediately makes you think of people in sword fights and bows and arrows and lions. | ||
| It's only the Coliseum. | ||
| You know how crazy human beings are? | ||
| In the thousands and thousands of years we've been around, there's only one famous place like that. | ||
| The garden is the closest I can think of. | ||
| Yeah, the garden. | ||
| But no one's dying in the garden, right? | ||
| That's the only difference. | ||
| That's why I drove, and I'm going to, honestly, starting tomorrow, go into all these amazing places. | ||
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That... | |
| You know there's like 15 of those in New Mexico? | ||
| There's about 15 archaeological sites of early... | ||
| Architecture, native architecture. | ||
| Like the one you showed us, the cliff stuff? | ||
| There's 14 of those? | ||
| There's many more, actually. | ||
| Are they different? | ||
| Are they all on the cliffs, or are they all different? | ||
| They are different, and they're different places, and there was this whole civilization that was built up out there, and we can just drive out there and go look at them. | ||
| You can go stand there in those spots. | ||
| So I was driving through Flagstaff, right before Flagstaff, Wupataki? | ||
| I think it's Wupataki. | ||
| But I just saw the sign, National Monument. | ||
| I turned off and I went down. | ||
| And here you are, all of a sudden, you're standing in a place. | ||
| It's like it was built in, you know... | ||
| It's stone walls around you and they were built in... | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Right here. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| What'd you say, Jamie? | ||
| It's called bandolier. | ||
| Bandolier. | ||
| Like the thing, your bullets go on? | ||
| I might be saying it wrong. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| So it's like that. | ||
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So go to... | |
| How do they get into those little holes? | ||
| They have ladders here. | ||
| I don't know how... | ||
| I don't think I've been there yet, actually. | ||
| That's really different. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| But there's stuff like that all over. | ||
| That's the move, though. | ||
| Then you pull the ladder up at night and, like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You don't want that ladder down there during the day. | ||
| But it's like the Ewoks, you know? | ||
| It's all like the Ewoks. | ||
| That's heavy, man. | ||
| There's all these Ewok kind of... | ||
| It's just so weird to think that people lived like that just not that long ago. | ||
| And it's right there. | ||
| Yeah, and you can go visit it. | ||
| You can just drive out there and go to it. | ||
| It just makes you think, if you weren't born in this era, if you were born thousands of years ago and you were born in this spot, this would be your village. | ||
| This would be where you live. | ||
| People like you and me, regular people, lived in that spot. | ||
| And you just think about what it must have been like to be alive. | ||
| Like, the other one that you showed me, you said 1200 BC, right? | ||
| 1200! | ||
| The Clift Wellings, Clift Wellings in Hila. | ||
| Hila National. | ||
| Dude, 800 years ago. | ||
| 800 years ago. | ||
| You're sitting around 800 years ago. | ||
| And you're looking up at the sky and there's nothing to separate you from the stars. | ||
| You've seen incredible stars. | ||
| And you're just trying to keep people from eating your family. | ||
| You're trying to keep other animals from eating you. | ||
| You're trying to eat animals. | ||
| You're trying to figure out how to keep the fire on. | ||
| You're trying to figure out how to make flint arrowheads. | ||
| They had a macaw feather. | ||
| In... | ||
| So this is a thing. | ||
| I think I... In... | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
| In the... | ||
| Okay, I'm just going to clarify. | ||
| I'm not totally wasted. | ||
| This is kind of interesting. | ||
| This is a circuitous route to get this macaw feather story. | ||
| They found a macaw feather in there, and then that means that they were trading with the Yucatan Peninsula. | ||
| Oh, because the macaw is from the Yucatan? | ||
| They also found a bison bone in those, so that means there was not bison native to that area, so that means they were trading with other... | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| There was not bison native to that area in the 1200s? | ||
| They could figure that out? | ||
| I guess, apparently... | ||
| Dude, you ever see all the shit that they do when they go back and look at... | ||
| Is it Pleistocene era? | ||
| Like, what is the era where they had a North American lion? | ||
| There was a North American lion that was larger than the African lion that lived right here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, there was not, like, a certain amount of time ago, I think it was more than 15,000 years ago, this place, North America, was filled with some really crazy shit, man. | ||
| Yeah, I bet. | ||
| Saber-toothed tigers and all sorts of, like, we were at, like, you know, you think about Africa, right? | ||
| You think about leopards, leopards Asia? | ||
| Leopards are in Africa too, right? | ||
| Leopards, jaguar is South America. | ||
| Jaguar is South America, right. | ||
| So leopards, lions, crocodiles. | ||
| You think of the fucking predators. | ||
| Tigers are not in Africa. | ||
| They're Asia, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People always would think, oh, Africa. | ||
| Tigers. | ||
| There's no tigers in Africa. | ||
| No. | ||
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You're right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's plenty of shit that'll kill you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hyenas. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So you think all these wild beasts and then what, you know, when we think of like safari in Africa, the dangers of safari, those are the animals you would think of. | ||
| North America apparently was filled with those things. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know antelope today? | ||
| You know what a North American antelope is? | ||
| A pronghorn antelope? | ||
| You ever seen one of those? | ||
| Did you see them on your trip? | ||
| Yeah, yesterday. | ||
| They're really cool. | ||
| Oh, you saw one yesterday? | ||
| I did. | ||
| They're really cool, right? | ||
| It's actually on my Instagram. | ||
| Dude, those are prehistoric. | ||
| So if you go to my Instagram right now, okay? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Tom Green Live, what is it? | ||
| At Tom Green. | ||
| At Tom Green. | ||
| My Instagram. | ||
| I went, but... | ||
| Seriously, the only reason I'm really pushing it hard here, Joe, is because I was driving down the highway yesterday and we saw these antelope and they were really beautiful. | ||
| Yeah, they're beautiful. | ||
| And I said, whoa! | ||
| And I went on an Instagram story or whatever, and I said, hey, yo, check this out. | ||
| There's this antelope. | ||
| And we turned around, we drove back, we looked at them, and they were beautiful. | ||
| They're a really weird animal. | ||
| They're an animal that predates all the mass extinction of the North American large mammals. | ||
| So the North American large mammals like the African lion, which was previous, but saber-toothed tiger, American cheetah, there was a cheetah that lived in America that was really fast, and those cheetahs are the reason why these pronghorns are so fast. | ||
| They're so fast because they evolved to get away from an animal that doesn't exist anymore. | ||
| But they still exist. | ||
| So they can run. | ||
| North American antelope can run much faster than any other animal around. | ||
| So everything else can eat shit. | ||
| They take off. | ||
| And those pronghorns take off. | ||
| They're fucking gone, man. | ||
| They're so fast. | ||
| Have you ever seen them in full clip? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| They were just standing there, but it was beautiful. | ||
| It felt like you were kind of like, wait, this doesn't feel... | ||
| It felt sort of like you were in a different sort of place. | ||
| They don't belong. | ||
| They don't belong. | ||
| They do, obviously, they belong. | ||
| But they don't belong in the sense that they're from a different time. | ||
| Their eyes are set on the sides of their head this really weird way where they can literally see almost behind them. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, like, if this is like an antelope, it's looking here, and you're over here, they see you crystal clear. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Crystal clear. | ||
| They just don't see you back here. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But right here, they see you 100%. | ||
| They see you 100% here. | ||
| They see you in a full range that we can't even comprehend because their eyeballs are out here. | ||
| They don't even look like they belong here. | ||
| They look like an avatar. | ||
| Why are... | ||
| Why are... | ||
| Pull up a picture of a pronghorn antelope's face. | ||
| Antelope. | ||
| Look at his face. | ||
| There's some cool close-up ones that show how bizarre their eyes are. | ||
| Like that one in the upper left hand corner. | ||
| Click on that. | ||
| Get close to that. | ||
| Look at his eyes. | ||
| See how wide his eyes are behind his head? | ||
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Where the deer and the antelope play. | |
| Fascinating animal. | ||
| And that animal exists because there was a thing called a North American cheetah. | ||
| Where the buffalo roams. | ||
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And the skies are not cloudy all day. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Antelope. | ||
| Oh, that's beautiful. | ||
| You know, it's a... | ||
| Here's a good question for you, Tom Green. | ||
| Okay, yes, sir. | ||
| We don't want animals to go extinct, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| We don't. | ||
| No one does. | ||
| But they do. | ||
| And most of them have gone extinct. | ||
| We don't want anything to be extinct for sure because of humans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But animals have been going extinct. | ||
| 90% of all animals that have ever existed aren't here anymore. | ||
| Because there's some weird sort of a contest going on with all of the animals on the planet, us included. | ||
| Would we be comfortable accepting the fact that we are like a dodo bird? | ||
| We're some sort of a dying species. | ||
| I would be comfortable with that. | ||
| Would you be comfortable with that out there in the middle of nowhere in your van hanging out with Chopper? | ||
| I assume that's the case, to be honest with you. | ||
| I think so too. | ||
| I don't think that's bad for people. | ||
| I feel the same way I feel about someone saying, do you want to live to be a thousand? | ||
| I don't want to live to be a thousand. | ||
| That's a long time. | ||
| But I don't want to not live to be a thousand. | ||
| I like life. | ||
| I like it right now. | ||
| I'm enjoying it. | ||
| It's getting a bit repetitive. | ||
| Well, you're out there in a fucking van, Tom Green, hanging out with your dog every day like Groundhog Day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, but I agree. | ||
| Yeah, it's getting a bit repetitive. | ||
| But, yeah, no, absolutely. | ||
| I'd like to live to be a thousand. | ||
| A thousand's a long time. | ||
| A thousand? | ||
| You might be able to figure some shit out. | ||
| A thousand's a long time. | ||
| Imagine, though, if you were a thousand and you were dating 18-year-olds, what a creep you would be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Would they make a new rule? | ||
| Right? | ||
| If you were a thousand-year-old guy and you had an 18-year-old girlfriend, they'd be like, enough, you piece of shit. | ||
| It doesn't matter what you look like. | ||
| I don't think it would be that. | ||
| You know, I think, I think, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I think... | ||
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Wow. | |
| Chopper's asleep. | ||
| First of all, I'm looking at Chopper here. | ||
| I like how you changed her name. | ||
| You renamed her. | ||
| You like my Swiss Army knife, Joe? | ||
| I do. | ||
| You're out there out in the wilderness, man. | ||
| My dad gave me that. | ||
| You could do a lot of shit with this thing. | ||
| Open cans. | ||
| When I was a kid, my dad gave me that. | ||
| Do you use it as a can opener? | ||
| I do. | ||
| I have a few times. | ||
| I bet you do. | ||
| I remember the first time I ever opened a can with a Swiss Army knife, the can opener one. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, you know, I actually opened a can of tuna with it the other day. | ||
| It was oddly satisfying. | ||
| Because there's been a couple of nights in the last few weeks where I've said, you know what I want to have for dinner tonight? | ||
| What? | ||
| I just want to have a can of tuna and I want to go to bed. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you worry about, like, getting enough food or having food or making sure you're at a place where you can store food? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Is this something you just have, like, a schedule? | ||
| We buy food on Monday? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I just... | ||
| No, it's... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| No, it's just... | ||
| It's like I've been just driving around and I've... | ||
| You know, there's... | ||
| Shooting squirrels? | ||
| No, no, but I, you know... | ||
| Eating rabbits? | ||
| No, I have not eaten a rabbit, actually. | ||
| You've never eaten a rabbit? | ||
| No, I have never, actually. | ||
| Have you ever had frog legs? | ||
| Yes, I have. | ||
| They're pretty goddamn good. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But you haven't done any fishing where you caught a fish in this whole trip and ate it and... | ||
| So... | ||
| You should do that. | ||
| You should make that a priority. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Find a good spot. | ||
| Because there's something about catching a fish and then eating it right away. | ||
| Man, it's amazing. | ||
| I did it in Utah. | ||
| My friend Brent, we went ice fishing. | ||
| Caught a rainbow trout. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cooked it a couple hours later. | ||
| It was magical. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Make you feel like you're self-sustaining out there, Tom Green. | ||
| Okay, I got a story about that. | ||
| Please. | ||
| So I did catch a fish on this trip. | ||
| Oh, all of a sudden you caught a fish. | ||
| Yeah, but it was the first fish I caught and it wasn't, you know, it was a sunfish. | ||
| And it wasn't like I didn't catch it too good. | ||
| It was kind of a tough situation. | ||
| So I felt bad, you know, and I just haven't fished again since then. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| You know, sunfish are good to eat, right? | ||
| I grew up, when I was a kid, those, you know, would catch those and the perch and all that. | ||
| But it's like, yeah, yeah. | ||
| How come you decided not to cook it? | ||
| And keep it? | ||
| Well, no, it was... | ||
| This last time? | ||
| The only time I know of. | ||
| It was just... | ||
| I wasn't really fishing for a sunfish, you know? | ||
| I was trying to catch a bass or a trout or something. | ||
| Something larger? | ||
| Yeah, and I got a little sunfish. | ||
| You decided not to keep it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's the problem with not keeping it. | ||
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There was nothing you could do, though. | |
| I hear you. | ||
| Why don't you just keep it? | ||
| Cook it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I wasn't. | ||
| I guess I could have probably still... | ||
| Was it of legal size or was it tiny? | ||
| No, it was just, you know, you kind of figured, okay, well, it'll probably like... | ||
| I thought I figured it probably would have lived, you know, so I let it go. | ||
| I released it. | ||
| A lot of catch and release fish don't live. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was hoping it would, though. | ||
| Fishing is a weird thing, man, right? | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| You're standing on the edge of a world, and you're throwing in a trick. | ||
| So that's what I'm saying. | ||
| So listen, here's the thing, okay? | ||
| So. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now we're talking about this. | ||
| What are we talking about? | ||
| I did that as a kid. | ||
| As a kid in Canada, I would go onto a wharf in the middle of a lake. | ||
| Lower Beverly Lake. | ||
| This is where I grew up when I was a kid. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| This is an obscure geological place. | ||
| Lower Beverly Lake, Canada. | ||
| And I grew up there and we would go there and me and my friends, we would catch Northern Pike. | ||
| I love Northern Pike. | ||
| Off the dock. | ||
| We'd catch like five a day. | ||
| Awesome fish. | ||
| Fish this big. | ||
| And then, you know, you would eat them. | ||
| They taste good. | ||
| Their bones are shaped like Y's. | ||
| They're little Y's. | ||
| They're a little bony, like when you're eating them. | ||
| You've got to pick out some bones. | ||
| Largemouth bass is like a sea bass. | ||
| It's the Canadian sea bass. | ||
| And that was a delicious thing. | ||
| You know what they say that largemouth bass in particular, they taste better in cold water? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Like cold water bass, like what you would catch where you live versus what someone would catch in Florida. | ||
| Yours would taste better. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
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Did they say that? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I've heard that. | ||
| I don't know if it's true. | ||
| Smallmouth bass are supposed to taste better than largemouth bass. | ||
| And so the smallmouth bass put up a better fight than the largemouth bass. | ||
| Yeah, that's what everybody says. | ||
| They're more aggressive. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So you could get like a two-pound smallmouth that's going to like... | ||
| And people prefer them to eat too. | ||
| The people that eat bass, yeah, they prefer smallmouth over largemouth. | ||
| I don't know enough, but yeah, that's the word. | ||
| Smallmouth bass is supposed to taste better than largemouth bass. | ||
| So it's pretty crazy. | ||
| And then so, like, you know, but like catfish, I've got a few of them in my day as well. | ||
| Catfish are awesome. | ||
| You ever see those people that go noodling? | ||
| Would you do that? | ||
| I would do that, yeah. | ||
| Would you? | ||
| You don't give a fuck about your fingers, huh? | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| What about snapping turtles, son? | ||
| You ever think of that? | ||
| That moment Tom Green realizes his fucking hand is in the grip of a shelled dinosaur. | ||
| I can tell you. | ||
| I have snapping turtle stories. | ||
| I've been in front of snapping turtles as a kid, and you realize, it's like, oh, this thing's head's the size of a coconut. | ||
| And it's going to bite your dick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm staying away from that. | ||
| So it's kind of pretty interesting when you're... | ||
| I saw a snapping turtle when I was a kid. | ||
| I was living in Florida, so I had to be between 11 and 13. And we saw this snapping turtle in the middle of the forest. | ||
| We were poking at it. | ||
| It was snapping at us. | ||
| I was like, oh my god. | ||
| It was so big, it almost seemed like somebody's pet that they just like, fuck this thing. | ||
| And they just let it go. | ||
| Which people do in Florida. | ||
| That's why they have all those pythons everywhere. | ||
| You know, they have pythons everywhere in Florida. | ||
| They caught an 18-foot long one the other day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They have alligators everywhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When I was a kid, I saw a fucking snapping turtle, and I remember thinking, like, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what is this thing doing, just wandering around where people live? | ||
| But the snapping turtle is the only, like, kind of, like, weird sort of, like, you know, like when you talk about crocodiles and... | ||
| Have you ever seen a crocodile snapping turtle? | ||
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Mm-mm. | |
| Jamie. | ||
| Crocodile snapping turtle, son. | ||
| Get ready for the next level of horror. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Snapping turtle has an ugly cousin. | ||
| And the ugly, meaner, more demonic cousin is the alligator snapping turtle. | ||
| Look at that fucking thing! | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Was I joking? | ||
| Imagine, that big thing is trying to bite your foot. | ||
| Okay, so that actually looks like a snapping turtle, so that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Yeah, so I grew up with... | ||
| The one on the right is a snapping turtle. | ||
| I saw those when I was a kid. | ||
| The one on the left is an alligator snapping turtle. | ||
| I remember my dad and I, we were camping, and this thing came up, and I was like, wow, that's like an alligator snapping turtle. | ||
| And you're a kid, and you're in, like, Canada, and there's think-and-watches. | ||
| You saw one of those? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Where do those things live, Jamie? | ||
| What's their range? | ||
| They're all over. | ||
| I've never seen one of those in a while, but I would shit my pants if I saw that fucking monster. | ||
| Oh, yeah, and they swim up, and you're sitting there going, like, well, that thing's the head's the side of a, you know, like, that could probably potentially hurt. | ||
| I saw a regular snapping turtle. | ||
| The one I saw when I was a kid, it was a regular one. | ||
| It wasn't that big. | ||
| Nothing like that thing. | ||
| The mouth on that thing. | ||
| It's primarily southeastern U.S. Florida Panhandle to East Texas. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Okay, well, what's a snapping turtle that's in Ontario? | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| How old were you when you saw this? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Six? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Imagine how little you are and how big that is and your little six-year-old memory. | ||
| It's probably a regular snapping turtle, but it just seemed like the size of a fucking building. | ||
| So I can describe the exact scenario, okay? | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| This is what happened. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think about this a lot. | ||
| The snapping turtle story? | ||
| No, I think about this in my life. | ||
| It's one of those beautiful memories that you think about in your life and go, wow, that's cool. | ||
| That's when you realize how the fucking world worked. | ||
| Me and my dad, we jumped in a canoe. | ||
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Did you really jump in or did you step in carefully? | |
| My dad and I got in a canoe and we went out and we went fishing. | ||
| We went fishing. | ||
| We went over to the other side and we set up a tent and We camped out. | ||
| We went fishing. | ||
| We caught two largemouth bass. | ||
| And it was an amazing night. | ||
| And it was a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful time. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| Oh, so, no, no. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| I forgot what I was going to say, actually. | ||
| Something about snapping turtles, right? | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| Yeah, you just said, that's it, and you forgot the snapping turtle part. | ||
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No, no. | |
| No, no. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| So, listen. | ||
| This is what happened. | ||
| We went out to this island. | ||
| We went out to this island. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I remember... | ||
| Okay, so... | ||
| We're shaking hands? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How drunk are you, bro? | ||
| Very drunk. | ||
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All right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I'm great. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| Cheers. | ||
| I'm great. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| I'm in control. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Well, cheers again. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| I'm not very drunk. | ||
| I'm great drunk. | ||
| I'm great drunk. | ||
| You're a good man. | ||
| This is like one of the all-time good times ever. | ||
| Listen, you know I love you. | ||
| Like when you put it down like in a book, you go like, what was the best time ever? | ||
| This was the best time. | ||
| Let's give it like top 20. Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| We don't have to make it the best. | ||
| Put so much pressure on ourselves. | ||
| Good time. | ||
| Good time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what's the goal for the end of this walkabout, this motor vehicle powered walkabout? | ||
| When are you going to bring this dock, this boat into the dock? | ||
| I'm gonna just... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not sure actually, to be honest with you. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I definitely am gonna go see my fam up in Canada at some point. | ||
| Are you allowed to drive to Canada right now? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| How's that work? | ||
| Because you have a double ID? Because you're a fucking spy? | ||
| You're so like, on, you're like, you're like, very, like, in tune with everything, aren't you? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
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Like, it's like, it's like, like, yeah, of course. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| But you're just so like, Joe, like, I mean, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| How are you so connected with everything? | ||
| What am I connecting with? | ||
| I'm just asking if you have a dual citizenship passport thing where you can get into Canada. | ||
| It's cool that you listen to things. | ||
| Because here's the thing. | ||
| When you stand up, you're traveling around the country and you go to all these shows and everyone's interviewing. | ||
| But you listen and connect with people. | ||
| How did you realize that you knew how to connect with people? | ||
| I learned I'd do it. | ||
| I wasn't very good at it at first. | ||
| Honestly. | ||
| I'd fuck conversations up because I would talk when I didn't want... | ||
| I shouldn't have talked. | ||
| Like, you don't realize it while you're doing it. | ||
| You're not trying to be an asshole. | ||
| You're trying to just get... | ||
| You have an idea in your head. | ||
| You just don't know how to... | ||
| You don't know how to seamlessly integrate your ideas into a conversation with someone else's ideas. | ||
| There's a dance going on. | ||
| And the dance is not just what you want to say. | ||
| And some comedians, they do it very poorly because all they think about is what they want to say. | ||
| They don't think about what you're saying. | ||
| And if they don't think about what you're saying, then they're not really dance partners. | ||
| They just expect you to move with them. | ||
| And I've been that person before. | ||
| We've all been that person before. | ||
| It's not the right way to communicate with people. | ||
| So you learn over time that part of the dance... | ||
| You have to like the person. | ||
| You have to listen to what they say. | ||
| You have to give them some love. | ||
| You have to be interested in what they're saying genuinely. | ||
| You have to be in tune on the same idea. | ||
| So if you're telling me about an idea, I'm listening to this, I've got to be in tune with you, the way you're thinking. | ||
| I can't just be waiting to say what I want to say. | ||
| A lot of comedians are just waiting to say what they want to say. | ||
| They're not trying to help you get the most out of what you're saying. | ||
| Yeah, Jack Benny was Johnny Carson's idol and hero. | ||
| And Jack Benny would often have on all these great comedians of the day and people would say, you know, how do you feel? | ||
| They're getting all the laughs. | ||
| And you say, yeah, but it's my show, right? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's my show. | ||
| So it was like, yeah. | ||
| Well, here's the problem, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You could look at it that way. | ||
| But that doesn't help you as much, or I should say, it didn't help me as much as looking at it like, I don't... | ||
| I don't have any control currently over what's more funny in the moment nor should I want it to be me. | ||
| What I should want to do in the moment is laugh at things that are funny. | ||
| And not think, while I'm laughing at something that's hilarious, why am I not the funniest one in the room? | ||
| You can't think like that. | ||
| It doesn't do you or the moment any good. | ||
| It certainly doesn't do the person who's got a really funny thing to say. | ||
| When you grow up in stand-up, because a lot of my growth in stand-up is hanging out with Joey Diaz. | ||
| When you're hanging out with Joey Diaz, you're always the second funniest person, no matter who you are. | ||
| He's just the funniest guy that's ever lived. | ||
| So that helped, too. | ||
| Being around Joey, you're never thinking, I have to be the funniest. | ||
| All you're thinking of is let Joey be as funny as he can, and then just do it yourself, but your job when you're around someone like Joey is just let him be as funny as he can. | ||
| Just give him as much encouragement as you can give him. | ||
| Let him be as funny as he can. | ||
| Because when you're encouraging him, he's free. | ||
| He's supported, he's loved, and he's free. | ||
| And then he becomes the funniest guy that ever lived. | ||
| So that probably gave you a lot of freedom, though. | ||
| Because then you could fuck around and just be hilarious in that... | ||
| Area where he's he was carrying a lot of that energy, right? | ||
| Well, you can also just kind of give you a joy support system like he created a nice support energy like that was this was the area that you grew up in. | ||
| Well, you all feed off each other for sure. | ||
| Yeah, everyone feeds off everyone's Particular thing that they're really good at or success that they're having. | ||
| Everyone feeds off of it. | ||
| Everyone works it in together. | ||
| But there was a thing about Joey where he was so funny and so ridiculous that he made other things more ridiculous. | ||
| He made other people's bits more ridiculous. | ||
| He was so far into I don't give a fuck land. | ||
| He was so down the road that you were yelling at him, Where are you going? | ||
| And he was like, come on, cocksucker! | ||
| Follow me! | ||
| He was so far ahead. | ||
| He was so deep into I don't give a fuck land. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| My point is, with all things, whether it's with podcasting or with stand-up comedy or with martial arts or with basically anything you do, We're all a mix of all the people that we've met and their influence as well as who we are and what our own expression is. | ||
| But we're a mix of all these other people. | ||
| There's so many fucking people that influence you. | ||
| We're not autonomous. | ||
| We're not alone. | ||
| We're never. | ||
| And that's good and bad. | ||
| The bad part is people know that they can influence you because they know that you're not alone. | ||
| That's where bad comments come into play. | ||
| The only reason why it's a negative thing is because it makes you feel bad. | ||
| And the only reason why it makes you feel bad is because that's the intention of the person who's doing it. | ||
| It's a thing that people do because we aren't all alone. | ||
| We can reach out blindly and infect each other and hurt each other and smash. | ||
| We can do it. | ||
| We can reach out blindly because we're weirdly connected in some way that we want to ignore. | ||
| That's why it hurts when you read shitty comments. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because we're weirdly connected in some previously not completely understood way. | ||
| And you could just decide to not look at them? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Just like you can decide to work out. | ||
| Just like you can decide to drink only water for a month. | ||
| Just like you can decide to eat only ribeye steaks for a month. | ||
| Just like you can decide to run a mile a day for a month. | ||
| Just like you can do a thousand push-ups a month. | ||
| You can do whatever the fuck you want, Tom Green. | ||
| You just have to decide that's what you're doing. | ||
| I can do a thousand push-ups. | ||
| I bet. | ||
| You could. | ||
| I can. | ||
| That's the key. | ||
| The key is for sure you could. | ||
| That's not that much. | ||
| I mean, I'm not sure if I could this month, but maybe next month. | ||
| Well, a thousand, that's, you know, a hundred a day for ten days. | ||
| That's not that bad. | ||
| Okay, next, maybe next month. | ||
| You could do a thousand pretty easy. | ||
| I could probably do ten push-ups. | ||
| You've got to do what? | ||
| 33 a day? | ||
| 33 a day is a thousand in a month? | ||
| 33. 33 push-ups a day. | ||
| Can I do push-ups right now? | ||
| Sure, you could. | ||
| But why would we do that? | ||
| I mean, how drunk are you that we're really going to bring ourselves to that? | ||
| I'm pretty drunk. | ||
| Plus, this podcast is like 8 hours old, right? | ||
| How many hours is it, Jamie? | ||
| 4.15. | ||
| It'd be funny. | ||
| It'd be funny to do something. | ||
| It's kind of long. | ||
| To do push-ups? | ||
| It'd be funny at this point. | ||
| I don't think it would be. | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
| But I understand. | ||
| I won't do it. | ||
|
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Cheers. | |
| So that's what I... How did we get to that? | ||
| About push-ups and getting up in the morning. | ||
| Where did that come from? | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| I'm going to do something, okay? | ||
| No. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| Let's end this. | ||
| Close it. | ||
| Close it down, Jamie. | ||
| He's going to do something. | ||
| He's going to regret. | ||
| No, you can if you want. | ||
| I'm just joking. | ||
| You want to do push-ups? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, let me do something. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| There won't be a camera on you, though. | ||
| Charlie's chilling. | ||
| How many push-ups are you going to try to do? | ||
| Don't hurt yourself. | ||
| Let's see if I can do 10. Okay. | ||
| That's reasonable. | ||
| I like what he said. | ||
| He said, let's see if I can do 10. That's a very reasonable thing to say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, go ahead. | ||
| Alright, let's see. | ||
| Ready? | ||
| One. | ||
| Tom Green, ladies and gentlemen, he will be appearing at a truck stop near you. | ||
| If you're in upper northern Utah, near the trailhead, holla at him. | ||
| He has a podcast. | ||
| Oh my god, what were those noises? | ||
| Oh, that was her. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Your dog was shaking her ears. | ||
| I thought it was your back cracking. | ||
| I just did ten push-ups. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| I literally thought that was your back cracking. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I was like, he's going to die, and it's going to be my fault that I didn't stop him. | ||
| Oh, Charlie. | ||
| Charlie. | ||
| Chopper, bro. | ||
| Her name is Chopper. | ||
| Chopper, yeah. | ||
| No, Joe. | ||
| Thanks, man. | ||
| Thank you, Tom Green. | ||
| Listen, thank you originally for inspiring me, because you really did. | ||
| The day that Red Band and I went to your studio, and I saw your house and how you had it set up, that was one of the first seeds And I was on Fear Factor back then, but I remember wandering around your place, how you had it set up, and you were very gracious and very hospitable and took us around. | ||
| You were an awesome host, and you were so happy that you did this. | ||
| You wanted to show everybody. | ||
| It was a cool thing. | ||
| We left there going, God, first of all, God damn, how nice is Tom Green? | ||
| We both said that. | ||
| And they were like, how cool is what he's doing? | ||
| It made me think that that could be done. | ||
| So Red Band and I, we were in... | ||
| So Red Band, you know... | ||
| He's moving here. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I knew that, yeah. | ||
| You guys are like taking over Austin, right? | ||
| No, we don't want to take over anything. | ||
| We just happen to be moving here. | ||
| You love this place. | ||
| No, I'm just saying in a positive way, you love it. | ||
| You love Austin. | ||
| Yeah, we do love it. | ||
| When we saw your place, dude, with the servers and the fucking... | ||
| You got to think, what year was it that you were doing this? | ||
| So Red Band and I were in San Diego. | ||
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In your house. | |
| What year were you doing it? | ||
| Oh, 2004? | ||
| 2005, maybe. | ||
| So, you have to think, folks. | ||
| It's not possible to do this show with YouTube. | ||
| It's not possible to do this show with... | ||
| You know, there's no social media to speak of. | ||
| You can't really stream anywhere. | ||
| So Tom Green decides to do a website where you can stream it from a website. | ||
| Like, you were miles ahead of... | ||
| So it's like when I was saying about my dad earlier, right? | ||
| My dad was a tank commander, right? | ||
| And so in the Canadian military, when he was finished doing the tank, he was working, tank commanding, he was working with the Department of National Defense and computers, right? | ||
| COBOL computers. | ||
| Computers have always been around up in Canada. | ||
| But it wasn't just computers, dude. | ||
| It was the idea to do a show on the internet. | ||
| I even met with the people that you were working with back then. | ||
| Remember you were working with a group of people that hosted the website and did all the logistics and everything? | ||
| I met with them in Denver. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But I remember thinking, I don't have the time for this. | ||
| This is too much. | ||
| I was thinking about this. | ||
| For whatever reason, I wasn't ready for doing it. | ||
| And then we started doing some stuff on Justin TV, and then we eventually went to Ustream, and then it went to iTunes and YouTube. | ||
| Because it was a very obscure space back then. | ||
| There wasn't many people even thinking about it, but it was still kind of... | ||
| But it was 100% inspired by you. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It was inspired by you and inspired by Opie and Anthony. | ||
| You because you did it on your own and Opie and Anthony because they created the hang. | ||
| And then Anthony Cumia did a show in his house called Live from the Compound where he would play karaoke holding a machine gun. | ||
| He had a green screen behind him. | ||
| It was madness. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Madness. | ||
| He was doing it by himself. | ||
| He was just having fun, being silly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he did it. | ||
| I believe he was on Ustream. | ||
| I believe live from the compound was on Ustream. | ||
| And he had beer taps in his house. | ||
| So he'd be drinking Guinness on tap, singing, having a fucking party. | ||
| And he was doing that all on the side. | ||
| And then Sirius XM decided they didn't like it. | ||
| Because he was on the Opie and Anthony show and they were like, listen, you can't do that too. | ||
| And he was like, but it's just an advertisement for my show. | ||
| It's not hurting anybody. | ||
| They didn't want him to do it. | ||
| And then it became like a big sticking point. | ||
| And then eventually he wound up doing Compound Media. | ||
| But Live from the Compound was the original show. | ||
| So those are the, in order, the things that influenced me to do the podcast. | ||
| Number one, your show. | ||
| Number two, Opie and Anthony. | ||
| They're both interchangeable because they're both around the same time. | ||
| And then after that, Live from the Compound. | ||
| Because I remember seeing that going, oh, okay. | ||
| Because this can be done way cheaper than what Tom Green is doing. | ||
| I'm like, what Tom Green is doing requires businesses to get involved. | ||
| But what Live from the Compound was doing on Ustream, he just spent a lot of money and developed his own studio. | ||
| He put his own green screen. | ||
| He had his own professional microphones like this kind of set up. | ||
| But he did it all. | ||
| He was the pioneer. | ||
| Anthony Cumia was doing it in his house, in his basement, way before everybody else. | ||
| Why do you think... | ||
| We just happened to be on the edge of the time when it became like, oh, there was an opportunity to actually speak out and have your own opinion, right? | ||
| Before that. | ||
| Well, also, we got super lucky with platforms. | ||
| Like, you didn't get super lucky, but I got super lucky that I met you. | ||
| And I'm not bullshitting. | ||
| Because you decided to do it yourself. | ||
| And I remember thinking, like, oh, this can be done. | ||
| Like, you have to sometimes see someone do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See someone's house where you had your living room with fucking all these cables run from these servers all the way to your machine. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| I was like, oh my god, this is nuts. | ||
| It's like my van right now, by the way. | ||
| It was like a TV studio. | ||
| You gotta come check out my van, man. | ||
| If you go to film... | ||
| You got cables in the van. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| I'm running cables. | ||
| I'm proud of the way the cables are running the van. | ||
| If you were going to the Kimmel show and you were watching how they film it, there's cables on the ground, there's cameras, they're on dollies, and people are moving shit around. | ||
| I'm like, your fucking house looks like a set. | ||
| And I was like, how? | ||
| He can do it himself. | ||
| I remember thinking, this is not ready yet, but there's going to be something that happens out of this. | ||
| And I remember thinking, look, I remember we talked about it. | ||
| There's a video of you and I talk about it, saying, you're right, like you got it nailed. | ||
| Me, I'm sitting on your couch. | ||
| And I'm like, Tom Green, you're doing this right. | ||
| Fuck all these executives and all these people telling you what to do and what to say. | ||
| They get in the way. | ||
| The people that are important, the folks at home, what they want to listen to is what's coming out of your mouth. | ||
| Whether you're right or wrong, Whether it's good or bad, they want it to be you. | ||
| And as soon as you have a bunch of people chiming in, and a bunch of fucking... | ||
| You're not even talking about writers or creative folks. | ||
| You're talking about business people that are doing it just based simply on whether or not they think you can be more successful. | ||
| If you want to keep doing this, you want to keep being... | ||
| You were the first guy to figure out how to do it without those people. | ||
| And I remember sitting in your living room. | ||
| Right by your desk going, whoa. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I remember thinking, look at this. | ||
| Tom Green figured it out. | ||
| I remember thinking, this is going to be a path. | ||
| But it wasn't ready yet. | ||
| I was like, there's just not enough people have the bandwidth to watch it. | ||
| Not enough people understand what it is. | ||
| It was a small window, but it made me very interested. | ||
| I'm pausing for a moment, and I'm bringing myself back to that time, and I remember that day. | ||
| It's so cool, man. | ||
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How long ago was that? | |
| It's a long time, my friend. | ||
| How long ago was that? | ||
| 17 years. | ||
| Yeah, that's cool. | ||
| I remember being in there. | ||
| It was cool. | ||
| He's got it. | ||
| He's got it. | ||
| He's figured it out. | ||
| You came up and there was like, you know, you talked to Entertainment Tonight or something. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| They were there and I was saying that it's the future. | ||
| There was a video on Entertainment Tonight from like 19... | ||
| What year was that? | ||
| 19... | ||
| Well, it had to be 2003. Yeah. | ||
|
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Right? | |
| There's a video. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's my house. | ||
| That's my living room right there. | ||
| Let's hear this. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| This is my living room. | ||
| I was talking the same stupid shit even back then. | ||
| That's my living room, and that's still my house today. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Look at your house, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I made them eat my own poo? | ||
|
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I don't have the TV studio. | |
| Maybe I blacked out. | ||
| I actually tried to keep watching an episode of Fear Factor. | ||
| I threw up watching it once at home. | ||
| I bet you it was the same episode. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Was it when they put the frozen rats in the water? | ||
| Dude, this is basically a podcast. | ||
| We were doing a podcast back in 2003. Dude, this is you and me 17 years ago. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Wow, holy shit, that was you? | ||
| I didn't even recognize you. | ||
| Beautiful, dark beard. | ||
| Look how dark. | ||
| I look so silky smooth. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| And you said all this cool stuff, and you were like, you know, you were hosting Fear Factor then, I think, right? | ||
| Yeah, I just started doing Fear Factor. | ||
| But I remember thinking when I was there, like, you got it nailed. | ||
| But that's still my house. | ||
| You can't play it because if you play it, it'll get pulled even though it's me talking. | ||
| No, it's probably Access Hollywood. | ||
| It's probably their video. | ||
| That photo, that older gentleman in the background, I took that photo when I was in college. | ||
| Who is he? | ||
| So when I was in college, we had to do an assignment, go take some photos. | ||
| So I went out in the streets of Toronto. | ||
| You just met that gentleman? | ||
| Yeah, it was in the city of Toronto. | ||
| Do you remember his name? | ||
| I do not know. | ||
| He was one of... | ||
| You want to call him something? | ||
| You want to call him Harry? | ||
| Let's call him Harry. | ||
| Harry. | ||
| Thank you, Harry. | ||
| No, but I was just a guy I took... | ||
| Oh, look, there you are, Joe. | ||
| Look at you, fella. | ||
| Look at your place. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Look at you, TomGreen.com. | ||
| Look at back when TVs had those big-ass thick bezels. | ||
| That's still my house, by the way. | ||
| Isn't that funny? | ||
| That's still where I... Let the haters and fucking stalkers know. | ||
| They can still find you. | ||
| It's kind of funny that it was 17 years ago, my friend. | ||
| And here we are, we're still basically doing the same kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, it's cool, man. | ||
| It's so cool, man. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| I really do love what you guys are doing. | ||
| And Jamie, I'm so glad you're doing good and you're feeling better. | ||
| He felt bad for about 14 hours. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And even then it wasn't that bad. | ||
| I'm glad you're not feeling too bad. | ||
| Despite what Donnell Rawlings thinks, he's very strong. | ||
| Very fit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| And... | ||
| Inside joke, Tom Green. | ||
| Slept right by ya. | ||
| But I'm glad he's doing good. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| Yeah, he was only sick for a little bit. | ||
| We didn't even think he really had it. | ||
| We thought he had some sort of allergies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Got lucky. | ||
| My gosh. | ||
| Well, listen, this is amazing. | ||
| Tom Green, stay gold, pony boy. | ||
| Joe. | ||
| It's always good hanging out with you, my friend. | ||
| And again, thank you for everything. | ||
| Thank you for being one of the most important initial inspirations. | ||
| I love you, Joe. | ||
| I love you too, Tom Green. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| I love you too. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| You've always been a good guy. | ||
| Always. | ||
| I've known you for two decades now. | ||
| You've always been super cool. | ||
|
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Likewise. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| My pleasure. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| We've known each other a long time, man. | ||
| That's kind of crazy when you stop and think about it. | ||
| It's a long time, Tom Green. | ||
| But I appreciate you very much. | ||
| And everything I'm saying is sincere. | ||
| You were one of the most absolutely important inspirations for me. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You did it, dude. | ||
| Class act, Joe Rogan. | ||
| You did it, dude, before anybody, and I'm glad you're still doing it. | ||
| So tell everybody about your podcast you're doing right now. | ||
| Yeah, I can go to the Tom Green interview. | ||
| Google that in quotes, the Tom Green interview. | ||
| That's going to bring you directly to the current show that I'm doing. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| I love... | ||
| First of all, I love... | ||
| What you do, Joe, I love what you do. | ||
| I love interviewing people. | ||
| I do really love sitting down with somebody and talking to them and getting into their mind and asking them what they're up to and how they think and really getting into it. | ||
| So I love it. | ||
| I just had Kenny Hotz on my show this week. | ||
| Kenny Hotz from Kenny vs. | ||
| Spenny, one of the Canadian legendary... | ||
| This is all on TomGreen.com? | ||
| Yeah, it's on... | ||
| And so this is on TomGreen.com. | ||
| Is there any of the links to the videos that you do, the van life videos on TomGreen.com? | ||
| Yeah, they're just all... | ||
| If you go to my YouTube channel, just go to YouTube.com slash TomGreen. | ||
| Just go there. | ||
| That's where I'm putting all the videos. | ||
| This was a nice long one. | ||
| We did about four and a half hours, I think, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Four and a half hours. | ||
| No peeing. | ||
| How long was it? | ||
| You know mine. | ||
| Four and a half hours, dude. | ||
| What? | ||
|
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What? | |
| Yeah, you got brain damage? | ||
| He got hit. | ||
| In the middle of the podcast, one of those whiskey shots just fucking clipped and he woke up in the middle of the fight. | ||
| Like, what round is it? | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Four and a half hours, Tom Green. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Well, listen. | ||
| I take a lot of supplements. | ||
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I can burn through alcohol pretty fucking quick, son. | |
| Glutathione. | ||
| Liposomal glutathione. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| It's a very powerful antioxidant that allows your body to process alcohol more quickly. | ||
| Glutathione. | ||
| Glutathione. | ||
| You want liposomal glutathione so that your liver is like... | ||
| There is actually... | ||
| No, all bullshit aside... | ||
| There's actually a doctor that I'm very good friends with, Dr. Mark Gordon, who brought it up on a podcast. | ||
| And some guy tried to dispute it. | ||
| We wound up Googling it. | ||
| It turns out liposomal glutathione, glutathione in particular, liposomal is just a different... | ||
| Liposomal is controversial in that there's some people that don't believe it's a more effective way of getting glutathione into your system. | ||
| But some people think it does. | ||
| I'm not qualified to have that argument, but I know that glutathione has been shown to help your body process alcohol more quickly. | ||
| How much more quickly? | ||
| That's up to debate, and I don't think there's ever been any real long-term peer-reviewed studies on drunks where you give them glutathione, you give their twin glutathione, and you find out who recovers quicker with the same amount of food in their body, same amount of rest, same amount of stress in their life. | ||
| But allegedly, glutathione, all those caveats and disclaimers aside, glutathione helps your body process alcohol more quickly. | ||
| That's true, right? | ||
| Glutathione. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Glutathione. | ||
| I want to say it's an amino acid. | ||
| Glutathione? | ||
| Glutathione. | ||
| What is glutathione? | ||
| It's an antioxidant. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| All right. | ||
| What is it, Jamie? | ||
| Went too far, my recording stopped. | ||
| Oh, the recording stopped. | ||
| We went too far. | ||
| We broke the show, Tom Green. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Is anything recorded right now? | ||
| That's right. | ||
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Okay. | |
| It's back? | ||
| It just hits a limit once we go. | ||
| We broke the show. | ||
| The show has gone so long. | ||
| Tom Green and I broke the show. | ||
| Glutathione is an antioxidant in plants, animals, fungi, and some bacteria. | ||
| I don't know what that word is. | ||
| Archaea? | ||
| Archaea? | ||
| Anyway, glutathione is capable of preventing damage to important cellular components caused by reactive oxygen species, such as free radicals, peroxides, lipid peroxides, and heavy metals. | ||
| Glutathione. | ||
| And can you Google glutathione and alcohol? | ||
| Glutathione. | ||
| And hangovers. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| I think glutathione is supposed to be a really good thing to take when you're in the middle of recovering from a hangover. | ||
| That is wild stuff. | ||
| Wild stuff. | ||
| Alpha lipoic acid. | ||
| Alpha lipoic acid is a potent antioxidant. | ||
| On its own, it helps your body produce glutathione. | ||
| Take about 400 milligrams before you start drinking. | ||
| N-acetylcysteine NAC is a precursor to glutathione and a great nutrient for liver support. | ||
| Take 600 milligrams of NAC before you start drinking. | ||
| Those are like dedicated drunks. | ||
| They're like, before I start drinking, I'm going to carb load. | ||
| I'm going to fill up with liquid. | ||
| A buddy of mine drank with Jean-Claude Van Damme once. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And he said Jean-Claude Van Damme would drink, but he would bring a gallon of water. | ||
| So he had a gallon of water with him. | ||
| Like a giant jug of water. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| So he would drink, and they would take a jug. | ||
| So he knew how to, like... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He said he was super impressed. | ||
| He was like, whoa. | ||
| Like, this guy's a professional partier. | ||
| So he would be drinking, but he would also... | ||
| Downing this gigantic bottle of water. | ||
| He kept pissing. | ||
| That's all you gotta do is hydrate. | ||
| He kept hydrated the entire time. | ||
| He said he was so blown away by it. | ||
| He's like, I can't believe this guy. | ||
| Why did nobody ever tell me that? | ||
| You didn't hang out with Jean-Claude Van Damme. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| You gotta party with JCVD. The amount of nights you could have probably survived if you just drank a little more water, huh? | ||
| Here's something embarrassing. | ||
| You know the Volvo commercial where Jean-Claude Van Damme does the splits between two trucks? | ||
| I don't know if that's real. | ||
| And I've questioned whether or not it's real, but I know it's not real. | ||
| I know they would never spend... | ||
| Do you know how much money you would have to... | ||
| But the concept is real. | ||
| I'm sure he's really capable of doing the splits. | ||
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No, but it's the idea of is probably almost better than the ability to do it. | |
| No. | ||
| Thinking of it is cool. | ||
| No, it's crazy. | ||
| You're trusting your life to these two trucks, and then they've got to push together. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| You don't think that he did that? | ||
| I don't think he did that. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think if he fell, he'd be a dead man. | ||
| Are we breaking news right here? | ||
| I think if he fell, he'd be a dead man, and I don't think they would ever do that without a harness. | ||
| I just don't believe it. | ||
| I think it's CGI. But he's most certainly capable of doing that if the trucks could be so specific in their movements that they never separated, and that he had time to strengthen his legs at like 50-plus years of age. | ||
| I don't have the video of it, but it says, there's a Wikipedia, three days of rehearsals, It was made in one single take. | ||
| He was protected by a hidden safety harness. | ||
| I believe it happened. | ||
| Hidden safety harness. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I thought it happened, but... | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| The hidden safety harness, now I believe it. | ||
| He's definitely capable of doing it. | ||
| Have you ever seen it? | ||
| Yeah, I watched it, yeah. | ||
| Let's watch one more time. | ||
| I thought it happened. | ||
| Let's end on this. | ||
| Well, now we know it did happen. | ||
| They probably CGI'd the safety harness or something. | ||
| But he's most certainly capable of doing those kind of splits. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Look at it. | ||
| Going backwards. | ||
| Oh, they're going backwards. | ||
| Where's the safety harness? | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| No, you definitely can't see it. | ||
| There's also a little platform you can't see, I think, where his feet are on to help that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That don't exist. | ||
| What's Globetrotter? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| That's the... | ||
| Oh, that's cool. | ||
| So they're very, very slowly moving backwards. | ||
| 25 miles an hour. | ||
| This is a cool shot, actually. | ||
| But look at this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This is very cool. | ||
| Very, very, very, very cool. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Look how they spread. | ||
| That's right where my balls break off and fly away. | ||
| I kept that line. | ||
| See how they're marking it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Can you believe that? | ||
| I know, but the fact they're doing it going backwards, that's bananas. | ||
| So his weight is not being supported by his ankles there. | ||
| That's the only thing that's preposterous. | ||
| It seems he has no strain at all. | ||
| It's not preposterous that he could get into that position. | ||
| But there's a difference between getting into that position and doing it in between two chairs. | ||
| Like people do it in between two chairs. | ||
| So you don't think that's real? | ||
| No, you can do it. | ||
| You can do it in between two chairs. | ||
| People can do it. | ||
| They've definitely done it. | ||
| Do you think that's real? | ||
| I think he definitely did it. | ||
| He's definitely capable of doing that. | ||
| Is that real or is it CGI? Supported by some sort of a safety harness. | ||
| The question is whether or not this... | ||
| The image you're looking at is him supported by a safety harness. | ||
| Yes, 100%. | ||
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And then CGI'd out. | |
| Or whatever, like chroma keyed out or whatever the hell they fucking call it. | ||
| The safety harness is just so he didn't fall, they're saying. | ||
| Jamie's saying. | ||
| I believe that too. | ||
| I would imagine it would take a little bit of the weight off. | ||
| And I think that would help his ankles. | ||
| The PR guy said the stunt is real. | ||
| The PR guy can eat a whole bag of... | ||
| He can eat a whole bag-o because, you know, PR guys are always honest. | ||
| The point is, it's way more difficult to support yourself in that position if you're being held on each ankle. | ||
| If all your weight is being pressed, he's probably 170 pounds or something like that. | ||
| All his weight is on both of those ankles, out-extended like that. | ||
| That's very difficult to do. | ||
| It's not easy. | ||
| So for him to just be sitting there all calm and stretched out like that and do it over a long... | ||
| I've seen people do it in between chairs, but they don't do it for very long. | ||
| It's not something you want to do while two trucks are driving. | ||
| This is just what they're saying and everything I can find, that his feet were not connected, so his feet were able to be moved, and that harness was only in case he fell. | ||
| And they only did it that one time. | ||
| Well, I mean, if he has enough support, again, if they only did it for a couple of seconds, he has enough support where his ankles... | ||
| I mean, he 100% can do that and has done that his whole life, where he suspends himself in a split over two chairs. | ||
| A lot of guys do it. | ||
| My only question would be, like, how long can you hold that spot? | ||
| I'm good, dude. | ||
| How long can you hold that spot? | ||
| Have you ever seen a guy do that? | ||
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A little more. | |
| One more. | ||
| One more tap. | ||
| No, you drink a whole bottle of whiskey. | ||
| Just a little, a little sip. | ||
| No? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Have you ever seen those videos where people do that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I was going to say that maybe if they would have said it was a camera trick and it was just like high speed and they just slowed it down. | ||
| No, man. | ||
| Oh, you got it. | ||
| You have some more. | ||
| Let's one more tap. | ||
| One more tap. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| Time footage. | ||
| Seems like it was real. | ||
| No, I'm sure he can do that. | ||
| If they really did do that with those two trucks, that's even more impressive. | ||
| I assume that they CGI'd it. | ||
| Still Austin. | ||
| That is so good. | ||
| But I assume that he did do the splits. | ||
| I finally found the making of them. | ||
| Let's see if I can find it. | ||
| I'm going to end with this. | ||
| Shout out to Jean-Claude Van Damme. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Doesn't show it. | ||
| That's it! | ||
| Tom Green, it's over! | ||
| Show's 18 hours long. | ||
| People falling asleep at the wheel. | ||
| Joe, I love you, man. | ||
| I love you too. | ||
| Honestly, I really do want to say I'm so proud of you and congratulations. | ||
| It's just amazing to see how great you're doing and I love you, man. | ||
| I love you too, buddy. | ||
| I appreciate you being cool all these years. | ||
| I appreciate you being cool too. | ||
| Every time I meet you, you've always been cool. | ||
| And you have with me as well, man. | ||
| And that's why we're good friends to this day. | ||
| And again, thank you. | ||
| Because you're doing your show was one of the very first things that inspired me to do this. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You're the fucking man. | ||
| Tom Green, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Check out his Tom... | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Tom Green podcast. | ||
| Tom Green interview. | ||
| And of course, The Van Life, which is on YouTube. | ||
| TomGreen.com. | ||
| Much respect, my brother. | ||
| Love you. | ||
| Goodbye, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| And non-gender, non-binary people. |
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