Sept. 8, 2020 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! | |
| The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day! | ||
| If not for you, I would not be here. | ||
| In both places. | ||
| Welcome to Texas, Joe. | ||
| Welcome. | ||
| You bring tremendous exciting and good energy to our city and to our state. | ||
| I appreciate that very much, but I'm here in a big way because of you. | ||
| So before we even get started, if you do not know, Adam was the very first podcaster ever. | ||
| If you want to have a patient zero of podcasting, it's you. | ||
| Yeah, I'd say that's arguably correct. | ||
| I would say it's inarguably correct. | ||
| And then also you talked about how much you loved it here. | ||
| Yeah, and I've been here 11 years or so. | ||
| Without you, we would not be here for those two things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, it's really because after I did your show, which I cannot... | ||
| The only thing better than going on the Joe Rogan show is being invited back on the Joe Rogan show. | ||
| I mean, you did... | ||
| It was incredible for me. | ||
| You renewed my credentials. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, listen, I think you're awesome. | ||
| I think you're one of the most interesting guys on the internet. | ||
| No bullshit. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| The other thing that's very interesting is I told you when we were doing the show that time, we were kind of getting a little baked. | ||
| I'm like, this is when my Tourette shows up. | ||
| You know, I have a mild form of Tourette's. | ||
| And so because I had said that, it was like I felt really comfortable just being who I am and not having to worry about, I don't want to tick right now. | ||
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Oh, right, right. | |
| You know Steve Mnuchin, our Secretary of the Treasury? | ||
| He also has Tourette's. | ||
| He also has a hot wife. | ||
| Bam! | ||
| Well, this is, of course, one of the superpowers you get when you have Tourette's. | ||
| You get a hot wife. | ||
| Hot wife that wears those... | ||
| Yeah, baby! | ||
| That's what you get. | ||
| She's one of those ladies that wears those gloves that go all the way down to the elbow. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The lady's like, oh, he's kind of weird, but I like that. | ||
| You can see him, he's testifying before Congress, and you can see him stretching his neck and shit. | ||
| But once it's out there, then it actually removes all the tension. | ||
| And even on the YouTube comments, people are like, what the fuck is wrong with this guy, man? | ||
| Is he backing up his files every five seconds when he's... | ||
| When he's batting his eyes. | ||
| What exactly is happening if someone, like, is there a physiological thing that they've identified? | ||
| Yeah, it's like sparks happening in your brain, and they're not really sure what it is. | ||
| It's Gilles de Tourette syndrome. | ||
| And there's all kinds of stuff they say can help. | ||
| What are the things they say help? | ||
| Oh, certain herbs. | ||
| I always get fucking fishy. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of people say it's trauma that the body is held onto. | ||
| That's very possible. | ||
| That could be it. | ||
| But it started around when I was seven, so it could also be, I think, possibly vaccine-related. | ||
| I'm not saying that I'm anti-vaccines, but I know it happened then because my parents took me to the doctor. | ||
| My dad, interestingly, also had Tourette's. | ||
| Vaccines are one of those things. | ||
| So it can be hereditary. | ||
| Vaccines are one of those subjects where people tense up, and you're either all in or you're not. | ||
| Well, you're not allowed to just want safe vaccines. | ||
| You're not allowed to say, I am 100% pro-vaccine, but vaccines are, in fact... | ||
| Some sort of actionable chemical, right? | ||
| I mean, some liquid that you're putting into someone's body. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And it's going to have an effect. | ||
| And there's all kinds of stuff in there. | ||
| And things happen sometimes with people with regular things, with aspirin, peanuts. | ||
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Yes. | |
| People's bodies react differently to all sorts of different things. | ||
| That doesn't mean that vaccines haven't saved fucking uncountless lives. | ||
| Of course, they're amazing. | ||
| The people that figured out vaccines are the most... | ||
| Well, I think you have vaccines in a combination of a lot of other things. | ||
| Sanitation. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| That's why in New York City, the sanitation department still wears kind of uniforms because they were seen as like first line, first responders when people were living in, you know, horse shit and trash. | ||
| People just dumping it out their windows in New York. | ||
| These guys came in like the National Guard and they became this force. | ||
| Yeah, that's no doubt about it. | ||
| If you had to live in like ancient Rome and where the shit would just roll down the street. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, ugh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's how a lot of people got sick in those places, right? | ||
| In ancient cultures before they really figured out sanitation and sewage. | ||
| In general, sanitation. | ||
| That's giant to prevent diseases. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But vaccines are also... | ||
| I mean, how many people have been saved by vaccines? | ||
| The overall net gain. | ||
| I don't want to look at people like a chart, but if you did, you'd have to say, God, look at all the people that were saved. | ||
| Look at all the people that are healthy. | ||
| But you have to say, oh, but for some people, it fucked them up. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, there is a vaccine court, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Isn't there? | ||
| I've met Robert Kennedy Jr. in the past. | ||
| He's a big anti... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's pro-safe vaccines. | ||
| But he's very controversial. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because he's challenging the conventional wisdom of vaccines. | ||
| And we have a lot of media influence to... | ||
| You know, to kind of set us up on this path where, I mean, when I was growing up, we didn't have vaccine for the mumps or the measles. | ||
| And I don't think it was the German measles. | ||
| And we got it and chicken pox and you got that. | ||
| And so the vaccine industry was able to prevent that and some form of herd immunity. | ||
| But, you know, the way we had these outbreaks and people are all freaking out and, you know, It just seems like it's an industry that wants to keep this type of safety for people, and that's one view of what is good. | ||
| I mean, there's all kinds of views what people think about certain illnesses you should just get to build up your immunity. | ||
| So it's hard for me to say. | ||
| I mean, it's not black and white. | ||
| And why should it be black and white? | ||
| Why should it be? | ||
| Yeah, that's the thing. | ||
| There's room for reasonable discussion without getting into fistfights and lighting each other's houses on fire. | ||
| And this is another subject where I think that's the case. | ||
| I think there's room. | ||
| I think what's interesting is... | ||
| Young Jamie had to make the first adjustment. | ||
| We got a whole new set up here. | ||
| Stop! | ||
| Stop! | ||
| Holy crap! | ||
| To Matt Alvarez, the fucking king of the world, who put this place together. | ||
| Let me just say, this is so badass. | ||
| Thanks, buddy. | ||
| You sent me a picture and I was like, that looks like the interior of an Embraer jet. | ||
| I mean, this is crazy. | ||
| And then the lighting, and I'm glad my buddy Drew got y'all hooked up to the table. | ||
| Shout out to Drew Teague who put this together. | ||
| And, you know, just all of it is so cool. | ||
| But shout out to young Jamie. | ||
| Fucking VIP. Yeah, yeah. | ||
| If not for him. | ||
| We said, whatever you do, we don't want headphones. | ||
| And he came through for us. | ||
| I really appreciate that shit. | ||
| Yeah, we had a couple of sound issues, but that's just how it goes. | ||
| No, it doesn't matter. | ||
| I'm the perfect guest for that. | ||
| You know, I just sat here and smoked your weed. | ||
| I just sat here and smoked your weed. | ||
| You have to be the first guest. | ||
| Yeah, well, thank you. | ||
| Here in the new studio. | ||
| It really is an honor. | ||
| And let me tell you, man, I am so happy for you and so proud of what you've done. | ||
| And, you know, to get someone to put a fucking number on the value you've created with your show, that's... | ||
| Let's not do that, because that's just going to freak me out. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| You get exactly what you deserve in life. | ||
| Let's just have a sip of whiskey and talk. | ||
| Right, but what I want to say is you've made it. | ||
| This is a big move. | ||
| You're not going like a television network. | ||
| This is not Hollywood picking you up. | ||
| Fuck, this is something completely different. | ||
| It's another app. | ||
| It's like an app against another app. | ||
| This is cool. | ||
| We see Netflix and Disney and Apple Plus and Amazon. | ||
| So there's all these different... | ||
| I think that that creates markets and the place right now may be a high value... | ||
| But place a value on content, and people are willing to pay for it. | ||
| So I'm not against any of that. | ||
| I think that's very, very interesting and a very logical path, and I'm glad that it's happening to you. | ||
| They have a vested interest in the show, which is what other platforms didn't necessarily have. | ||
| YouTube has always been great to us. | ||
| I don't have any complaints, really, about YouTube. | ||
| I think the real problem with YouTube is managing at scale. | ||
| I think they're dealing with some ungodly number of videos that are constantly flooding into it. | ||
| They didn't really have an interest. | ||
| They knew that the show was popular, but it's not like we were working together. | ||
| They just would take some of the ad revenue, but there was no real... | ||
| It was just a nice place where I could put it up, they could make some money, I could make some money. | ||
| But something like Spotify is a different situation where they're like, let's do this together. | ||
| We'll be together. | ||
| So you'll be exclusive to here, and we want you to do well. | ||
| Instead of having a non-connected relationship, like a lot of people feel like with YouTube. | ||
| Which is, again, I think it's because of managing its scale. | ||
| They can't have a one-on-one relationship with everybody. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| There's so many fucking people who have YouTube channels. | ||
| What is the number? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Jamie, how many people have YouTube channels? | ||
| It's got to be a crazy number. | ||
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Billions. | |
| Billions. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Maybe billions? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It's the number one video source in the world, right? | ||
| In terms of watching clips? | ||
| There's 31 million YouTube channels out there. | ||
| As of 2019. 31 what? | ||
| 31 million. | ||
| 31 million. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
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That's it? | |
| Well, in our world, this is preposterous. | ||
| What is wrong with this shit? | ||
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It must be much more than that, I tell you. | |
| There was a period of time during the podcast when I was telling people to do a podcast, and they would get mad at me. | ||
| They're like, stop telling everyone to do a podcast. | ||
| Oh, because it was like dirty? | ||
| It was like I was... | ||
| I felt like the lowest rung on the showbiz ladder was VJ. But no, I went and created one lower, which was Podcaster. | ||
| No, that's not what I was saying. | ||
| I was encouraging too many people to enter into it. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| People are like, dude, stop telling everybody they should have a podcast. | ||
| Not everybody should have a fucking podcast. | ||
| This is very important for me. | ||
| Because I realized as the podfather who, you know, really helped create everything in this whole, the mechanisms of it all, how it all fits together, we're losing something out of podcasting. | ||
| What that does is actually creates this huge opportunity in a vacuum because there's... | ||
| If you don't mind me saying, there's other Joe Rogans waiting to be born. | ||
| They're out there. | ||
| Oh, they're alive right now. | ||
| So they are ready and they need to have the same type of support... | ||
| That you get inside Spotify and you'll see iHeartRadio and Stitcher, they're going to announce deals and it's all going to be kind of, they have all their exclusive and you have Podcast One and so that's where radio is moving, mainly by the music companies who Have a kind of bad business model. | ||
| They have to pay for every time someone listens to a song, regardless of whether they could make money on it or not. | ||
| So moving to longer form content that doesn't cost more per minute that people consume is dynamite for them. | ||
| And they already have people paying and there's ways to do that, which is great. | ||
| What I need to make sure we do is that we preserve podcasting as a platform for free speech. | ||
| It may not be easy for the next Joe Rogan who has the different values or how they speak to get into whatever is the norm inside different podcast apps. | ||
| Do you understand what I'm saying? | ||
| I do. | ||
| I do understand what you're saying. | ||
| My thought about it every time I told someone to do it was that there's plenty of room. | ||
| Yeah, yes. | ||
| There's so many of us. | ||
| Infinite, infinite room. | ||
| Yeah, and this thought process that people have about not wanting someone... | ||
| Look, if I have an interesting conversation with someone and they're a fascinating person, I'll probably say you should do a podcast. | ||
| If they're not doing one, I would suggest it. | ||
| That's how mine started. | ||
| That's how all of us got into it. | ||
| If you enjoy Fresh Air, if you enjoy Radiolab, if you enjoy No Agenda, if you enjoy any podcast, wouldn't you want to encourage some new interesting person to try to get involved and maybe take it to a different place? | ||
| That's what happened with my friend Duncan. | ||
| Duncan Trussell, from doing other people's podcasts to then doing his own. | ||
| His podcast is amazing. | ||
| You guys did like a 20-hour show. | ||
| Oh, we did a five-hour and 20-minute show. | ||
| I mean, I had to spark up like 45 minutes into it. | ||
| I'm like, I got to get on their level, man. | ||
| What the hell is going on with these guys? | ||
| It took me two hours just to sober up, and by then we were drinking. | ||
| Well, I'm kind of happy we had a little bit of Jamie downtime so we could get ready for the show. | ||
| Shout out to the VIP, young Jamie, again for pulling this motherfucker together. | ||
| This ship was about to sink. | ||
| Tiffany Pentap. | ||
| Yeah, this ship was about to sink, son. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I'm enjoying Austin. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's a dope city. | ||
| I'm happy there's less people around. | ||
| I was going to say, do you know a lot of people here? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I do. | ||
| Yeah, because I'm one of the owners of Onnit. | ||
| We're right down the street here. | ||
| So really good friends with Aubrey and Kyle Kingsbury's here. | ||
| And then my friend Todd White, who's a jiu-jitsu friend of mine from back in L.A. I don't know any of these people. | ||
| He's an artist. | ||
| Todd White's a fantastic artist. | ||
| Really interesting. | ||
| What are those... | ||
| What are those speakeasies? | ||
| Like speakeasy, 1920s-ish, cool, like interesting. | ||
| This is the art of white. | ||
| This is my friend Todd White. | ||
| He does... | ||
| Like click on that one that looks like... | ||
| Yeah, right there. | ||
| The one... | ||
| Yeah, it looks like people at a party. | ||
| He does that kind of shit. | ||
| Todd's been my friend. | ||
| He's a brilliant artist. | ||
| Cocktail loungy type. | ||
| Yeah, and he's also a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu from my instructor, John Jock Machado. | ||
| That's him? | ||
| That's my buddy, Todd. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| And he's an Austinite now too, and he moved here from LA. So he was also an influence talking to him. | ||
| He's just a really super cool dude. | ||
| What I like about you here, man, is that Austin's pretty liberal. | ||
| We need male energy. | ||
| We need male energy coming back. | ||
| We need to meet in the middle and hug. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| The male-female model, by the way, I think there's a reason it should work. | ||
| It feels like yin and yang. | ||
| It should kind of go together. | ||
| Yeah, it takes a while to figure that out. | ||
| It's not very easy. | ||
| Yeah, it took me a couple tries. | ||
| It took decades! | ||
| I think around 50, I'm like, oh yeah, I think I'm kind of figuring it out a little bit. | ||
| I understand women way more now because I actually have children that are girls. | ||
| So you see, like, the idea that a man and a woman is the same thing is like the idea that a cat and a dog. | ||
| If you said to your cat, if you threw a ball for your cat, and you're like, go get it, motherfucker! | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Go get it! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what the fuck, man? | ||
| The dog gets it! | ||
| We're so different. | ||
| And when you watch little girls grow up and what they want to do versus I have friends that have boys, like, oh, my God. | ||
| You go over to their house and it's fucking war. | ||
| It's chaos. | ||
| They're always hitting things. | ||
| They're terrorists. | ||
| Total terror. | ||
| And obviously there's a spectrum and there's girls that are Yeah, of course. | ||
| We have that in common. | ||
| I grew up with women, two sisters, my mom. | ||
| I have a daughter. | ||
| I have two stepdaughters. | ||
| Just always a lot of women. | ||
| I get along really well. | ||
| I can be great friends with women. | ||
| But real super male energy, which is what I enjoy about you. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| No. | ||
| It really is nice because I didn't have much of that growing up and you're so kind of open and nice about it. | ||
| But you also have jiu-jitsu and all this fucking shit that I don't know anything about. | ||
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I'll teach you. | |
| You want to learn? | ||
| We got gyms here. | ||
| I am also very lazy. | ||
| Well, maybe. | ||
| That helps. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Maybe. | ||
| Do you work out at all? | ||
| Spin class. | ||
| Do you really? | ||
| I fucking love the spin class. | ||
| It looks like fun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, sitting in a dark room, dancing on the bike. | ||
| Typically, a lot of cute girls. | ||
| That used to matter, but now I just want the workout. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But I like someone yelling at me, do this, do that. | ||
| It's kind of rhythmic, and no one sees you. | ||
| No one gives a shit if you slow down, if you don't make it. | ||
| But at the end you're like, I feel good. | ||
| I didn't hack up a lung. | ||
| I feel good. | ||
| I hate going there. | ||
| Isn't it a dangerous move to have all those people doing cardio in a small room? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| How many of them are farting? | ||
| I've never... | ||
| I'm very sensitive to this. | ||
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Really? | |
| Nothing? | ||
| No. | ||
| But often, let me tell you, I will definitely go to the bathroom before I go to spin class. | ||
| Well, you're a courteous person, Adam Currier. | ||
| Yeah, but I have this fear, you know, like I'm on the bike, like, oh, fuck, what the hell? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That would suck so bad. | ||
| The occasional fart in yoga class is one of the funniest things about yoga. | ||
| It's never happened, but oh my god. | ||
| I've heard it. | ||
| That would be horrible. | ||
| I've heard it. | ||
| Actually, my friend Eddie Wong. | ||
| When Eddie did, for his television show, he farted. | ||
| I took him to yoga. | ||
| He wanted to do a bunch of things. | ||
| I took him to yoga. | ||
| We went and did a yoga class, and he farted. | ||
| That's the pits. | ||
| I don't eat before I do yoga. | ||
| That's the pits, man. | ||
| Yeah, we had a good time, man. | ||
| But no, I think it's quite healthy, actually. | ||
| The ventilation is good. | ||
| Shout out to Agora Hot Yoga. | ||
| They can't even open up right now. | ||
| California won't let them open up yoga studios. | ||
| It's so ridiculous. | ||
| I go to Ride Indoor Cycling, and they're limited to, I think, 11 people or 13. We need tests. | ||
| The White House apparently has some tests that they could find out in 20 minutes if you have it. | ||
| Yeah, it's coming in 15 minutes. | ||
| You just have to accept the microchip, Adam Curry. | ||
| Just take the microchip. | ||
| Well, obviously, at this point, everybody is basically thinking... | ||
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Come on, Dr. Bill Gates, just give me the fucking vaccine! | |
| Shoot that microchip into me! | ||
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I'll take it! | |
| And that, you know, is obviously advantageous for people. | ||
| You've seen the meme about Microsoft? | ||
| Bill Gates owns Microsoft. | ||
| Microsoft can't stop viruses for Windows. | ||
| How the fuck are they going to stop from human beings? | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| It's a good meme. | ||
| It's a solid point. | ||
| If you were a comic and you said that, that would kill whoever you are, the meme person that came up with that line. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that it's concerning all this vaccine, you know, the mandatory mask, the disputes over, but I think it's really a sideshow to something much fucking bigger. | ||
| What's the biggest thing? | ||
| Well... | ||
| I feel like I need a seat buckle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, definitely. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| What is the one thing that we absolutely lost during the coronavirus? | ||
| The one thing that went away, it was right in front of our face. | ||
| We all saw it. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| We were actually told it had to go away or it was very dangerous. | ||
| What is that one thing? | ||
| Probably your freedom. | ||
| That's what I would say. | ||
| Your ability to move around and go wherever you want. | ||
| An actual control mechanism of freedom. | ||
| Money went away. | ||
| Cash went away. | ||
| Coins went away. | ||
| Everyone went digital money. | ||
| And we accepted it willingly. | ||
| Without any thought that someone might be juking the system. | ||
| Well, let me continue. | ||
| World Health Organization showed Chinese money being sprayed to clean it from coronavirus, which of course we know is preposterous. | ||
| But, you know... | ||
| Chinese money being sprayed? | ||
| Yeah, like in Shanghai, there was spraying money. | ||
| There were memes as well. | ||
| There was lots of, like, money can be dirty. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| I'm not even going to fucking argue with you about the fucking money. | ||
| I'm not going to touch it. | ||
| That's what everybody said. | ||
| You can't argue with me about something I have no knowledge whatsoever of. | ||
| Too big for that. | ||
| There's no way we can argue. | ||
| How can we argue? | ||
| I have no facts. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I'm not interested in arguments. | ||
| I have no argument. | ||
| Here's another thing that people learn. | ||
| But there's more to this story. | ||
| Please go. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think this is really important because it's happening right now. | ||
| It's really cool. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that went away. | ||
| And so everyone's kind of, you know, now we're using apps and these apps. | ||
| It's all different networks and infrastructure. | ||
| You know, you're not really, you know, Venmo actually connects to another company that then logs into your bank account and acts as you. | ||
| There's all these different ways it's been kind of gerrymandered and rigged together. | ||
| So Venmo doesn't go right to your bank account? | ||
| They go through middleware, plaid networks. | ||
| The Dark Lord? | ||
| No, they just got bought by Visa for like $5 billion. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| It's just another part of... | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| Because banks traditionally never talk to each other digitally. | ||
| We won't do whatever we can to maximize our profits. | ||
| We promise. | ||
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We'll be ethical. | |
| You're going to love it when I get there, Joe Rogan. | ||
| We demand social justice while we're sucking green bills out of your veins. | ||
| So, we're waiting for the stimulus checks, which is now being negotiated. | ||
| This is, you know, people need money. | ||
| That stopped, you know, it's being held up, and we hear this, it's about FBI building being built, it's about giving states money, it's about all these different things. | ||
| And then we also have this post office controversy. | ||
| So there's two things going on. | ||
| Shout out to the post office. | ||
| Well... | ||
| The post office, it appears, is an important factor in a new digital dollar, which is currently called FedNet. | ||
| And I think it's called FedNet. | ||
| So how are they involved? | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's go back. | ||
| You know, you remember Jekyll Island? | ||
| You were talking to Duncan about Jekyll Island. | ||
| Zero facts, by the way. | ||
| How about that? | ||
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If I had to pass a quiz on Jekyll Island, I'd get a 23. You were pretty close. | |
| So Jekyll Island is where the Federal Reserve was created in 1910. In 1907, there was a crisis in America. | ||
| There was a financial crisis. | ||
| And then the bankers, J.P. Morgan and the actual guys, you know, the old, you know, we have Chase Bank now and that guy who started that bank and... | ||
| Warburg and a couple others. | ||
| They said, this is fucked up. | ||
| We've got to be able to control the interest rate so we can, you know, control the economy by boom and bust, basically, which we've been through all this time. | ||
| But when they created it, they had to make that the official way to manage America's money. | ||
| And a couple years down the line, they got the Federal Reserve Act, which removed our money from the Treasury and gave it to the Federal Reserve. | ||
| And that's these bankers. | ||
| And they just gave it the cool name to make it sound like it's a part of the government, but it's not. | ||
| So they create the money, they manage it, and the United States borrows it from them. | ||
| You've heard this before, I'm sure. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| You should definitely give them most of the money that we have. | ||
| There's no need for... | ||
| It's about to get a lot easier for them. | ||
| That's the beauty. | ||
| That's the beauty of it. | ||
| Poor people and hard-working folks to have any of that. | ||
| The Banking for All Act is what is on the table right now. | ||
| That's why I believe the stimulus is held up. | ||
| Because they want to give people the money into a digital wallet. | ||
| Which everyone who has a social security number right now has a digital dollar wallet attached to that social security number. | ||
| And all you have to do is, if you don't have a bank, you go to the post office, you show your social security number, your ID, and you'll get a debit card, and that is basically your entire bank on that card. | ||
| And the government can put money on, which they will do. | ||
| Which they will do. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But it gets better, Joe. | ||
| It gets better. | ||
| You want me to blow your mind? | ||
| How fucking funny is that? | ||
| You want me to blow your mind? | ||
| Yeah, please. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Please, please, please. | ||
| Because you're a fan of universal basic income. | ||
| I'm going to tell you how it's going to work. | ||
| This is coming. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you should really... | ||
| You want to hear this. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Because I think it's really happening. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I could be fucking wrong, but you know. | ||
| I'm just a VJ and a podcaster. | ||
|
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I understand. | |
| I remember when you had crazy hair. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| You were so handsome, too. | ||
|
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There was a lot of work. | |
| You're still handsome, but you're like older guy handsome. | ||
| There was a lot of fucking work. | ||
|
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You were beautiful. | |
| When you were young, you were beautiful. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Anyway, continue. | ||
| You say that to all the boys. | ||
| Only the podfather. | ||
| I think you're the only guy I've called beautiful to his face. | ||
| Did I call Rob Lowe beautiful? | ||
| If not, I apologize, Rob. | ||
| You're beautiful, too. | ||
| Who else? | ||
| You're beautiful, Joe Rogan. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Mike Tyson, you're beautiful. | ||
| So you remember the cost of like a Toyota truck in the 70s? | ||
| Like $5,000. | ||
| Well, I was three, so... | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| It's like $5,000. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| So now in 2020, it's $50,000. | ||
| Same fucking truck. | ||
| Well, those trucks are really valuable now. | ||
| Those Toyotas from the 1970s, the FJ40s, those are amazing. | ||
| There's something about them that makes you pretend you're Indiana Jones, like you're a rugged individualist with their aluminum door. | ||
| It's like a farming vehicle. | ||
| They're real crude. | ||
| But you could buy it for $5,000 and now you have to have $50,000. | ||
| Of course, back then, you made $10,000 a year, you were doing okay. | ||
| Now you need $100,000 to really say, I'm doing okay. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Why is it that, if you look at a Toyota FJ40, why is it so attractive to us? | ||
| Why does it make me feel like I want to get a leather-bound notebook and go to the woods and write things? | ||
| If I'm one of those dudes... | ||
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This is where our roads part. | |
| If I'm one of those dudes who wears a fluffy flannel shirt... | ||
| I don't care about cars anymore. | ||
| I gave up. | ||
| A FJ40? Come on, look at that thing. | ||
| That is a rugged, individualist car. | ||
| That's a dude who reads a lot of books and doesn't need a lot of attention. | ||
| How come he doesn't have a boy? | ||
| Where no socks? | ||
| Has no socks in his moccasins? | ||
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No! | |
| Oh, that guy's got boots on in case the fucking ground's on fire. | ||
| The guy who drives that car right there, that's a bad motherfucker who knows how to tie good knots. | ||
| That's what that guy is. | ||
| That's a guy who knows how to fucking drive those things off-road. | ||
| He knows how to activate the lockers. | ||
| He's a guy who writes. | ||
| Maybe he can play guitar by the firelight, but he doesn't have a girlfriend. | ||
| Isn't it crazy? | ||
| Look at that guy. | ||
| He's got a fucking rifle! | ||
| Look at that scope! | ||
| Looking for squirrels! | ||
| Every man has a little bit of that in him. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| A little bit of a poser. | ||
| That guy's a poser. | ||
| Look at that shit on his roof. | ||
| That ain't even dirty. | ||
| That guy's probably a dancer. | ||
| He probably has nothing to do with shooting or driving trucks or hunting. | ||
| They just put that dude in a beautiful car and made up stand there and look stupid. | ||
| So when you get your $1,200 digital in your wallet... | ||
| Oh, government money. | ||
| Yes, it's called a stimulus. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is the digital dollar, and everyone's going to get this money. | ||
| If you're guilty of wrong-think, can the government shut down your account? | ||
| This is totally where it's headed, of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But what's interesting about it is, do you know that interest rates have gone negative in most of the world, which is really upside down? | ||
| Because of the pandemic? | ||
| No. | ||
| This already happened. | ||
| Since 2008, the whole financial system broke. | ||
| Because they didn't embrace Jesus. | ||
| We're in Texas. | ||
| Let's make friends. | ||
| Because they didn't embrace Jesus! | ||
| There's a lot of people... | ||
| And by the way, a lot also... | ||
| You have a fucking high-quality audience, man. | ||
| They started listening to No Agenda as well, but let me tell you. | ||
| And a lot of people who are Christian, you know, and they definitely see this as end times and, you know, it's like, is Jared Kushner maybe the Antichrist? | ||
| What if they're right? | ||
| What if they're right? | ||
| He looks like Damien. | ||
|
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Could be. | |
| Could be. | ||
| Remember the omen? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want a picture... | ||
| Jamie, right now I need a picture of Jared Kushner next to Damien from The Omen. | ||
| Particularly when... | ||
| Someone's probably already done it. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look at that one with Trump. | ||
| Where Trump's out of focus in the middle. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
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Satan! | |
| Who knows, man? | ||
| Listen, Jared, I'm just joking. | ||
| I don't believe anything I just said. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I'm just trying to be funny. | ||
| Oh my god, someone's already made a connection. | ||
| Jared, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sure you're a good guy. | ||
| Your wife's hot. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| And you're very wealthy. | ||
| And I don't think you're getting a fair shake. | ||
| I don't think anybody in that fucking... | ||
| Anybody connected to Trump gets a fair shake. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| No one gets a fair shake no matter what happens on both sides of the aisle. | ||
| We're at each other's throats! | ||
| And if I was a conspiracy theorist, and I've been in the past, I would say if somebody really wanted to destroy America and then control it like a dictatorship, how would they go about doing it? | ||
| I got an idea. | ||
| It sounds crazy. | ||
| But I want to release a virus. | ||
| I'm a conspiracy therapist, so I just analyze the situation. | ||
| Yes, I think China has a big role in what's happening, as globalism does in general. | ||
| It used to be only centered around climate change and Green New Deal. | ||
| And there's a lot of agendas running right now. | ||
| So the digital dollar, which I'll explain to you another time. | ||
| Can I pause before this gets misconstrued, though? | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| I don't believe what I just said. | ||
| Here's another possibility that I also don't believe. | ||
| Like, I don't believe either one of them. | ||
| Maybe there was some sort of a virus that they were examining and doing tests on in the laboratory and somehow it escaped. | ||
| According to Brett Weinstein, who is an actual evolutionary biologist, he believes that's probably the case. | ||
| But he doesn't commit either way. | ||
| No, but that's not my field of expertise. | ||
| That's not my field of expertise. | ||
| I know, but I just don't want me to be misconstrued. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| I just had to have that. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| This is not something I believe. | ||
| I think the whole thing is very... | ||
| It's so scripted. | ||
| I shouldn't say that. | ||
| It seems like fiction in such a stark way that if you had an amazing Jack Carr book about some foreign threat that invaded America and brought a virus that brought the economy to its knees and then gobbled up all the stocks and then kept people in their houses and made people scared and then You mean pretty much every disaster movie we've seen for the past 20 years that we've loved to stream in totality | ||
| as predictive programming? | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| I remember being on mushrooms once, sitting on a hillside, thinking about the fact that every single civilization besides ours current has collapsed. | ||
| If you go to ancient Greece and you look around those spectacular structures, those people aren't there anymore, man. | ||
| They're not running shit. | ||
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No. | |
| Well, I think we'll be okay, but some awareness needs to happen. | ||
| And just back to taking it from a media angle, which I think you and I share, The virus where it came from all disputable whatever the reaction to it if the tests are okay if the vaccine is a different that all that doesn't matter to me right now what happened was some the first I remember this because the first unprecedented thing that we heard was China was shutting down a city right of 11 million people right and that was like holy shit that's never happened before I paid attention like god man that's some bad shit | ||
| so we didn't know what was going on we were all All terrified. | ||
| But what we also saw on Instagram and TikTok and everywhere else was these videos of people dropping dead on the street. | ||
| Do you remember that? | ||
| I do. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| Where'd that go? | ||
| Has that ever happened since? | ||
| I believe that... | ||
| Well, I think it has happened for some people that are of poor health. | ||
| Some people that get affected by this disease, man, it fucks them up. | ||
| I've only seen Chinese videos of this. | ||
| I have not seen it anywhere else. | ||
| I believe that that set... | ||
| Something in motion, some programming that was triggered by authorities such as the World Health Organization, Fauci, Birx, who I remember from AIDS. They're not clean on all of that. | ||
| There's a lot of people pissed off about how they handled the AIDS crisis. | ||
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What's wrong with how they handled the AIDS crisis? | |
| Tests wrong. | ||
| All kinds of shit was wrong. | ||
| There's Michael Musto in The Village Voice for a scathing article about how Fauci just wasted all this fucking money and people had died. | ||
| It was really... | ||
| And Fauci was hobnobbing with Elton John and the whole, you know... | ||
| Is that your phone? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| The podfather doesn't know how to... | ||
| This way? | ||
| Me? | ||
| We could just talk. | ||
| Like that? | ||
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Is that better? | |
| I hope you leave all that in there, Jamie. | ||
| No, I love that. | ||
| That makes it fucking humor. | ||
| I love the fact that you use a flip phone as well. | ||
| Shout out to Ari Shapir. | ||
| Also a flip phone enthusiast. | ||
| I actually think Ari has abandoned the flip phone. | ||
| The other day he called me and I said, is this your flip phone? | ||
| He goes, no, it's an iPhone. | ||
| I'm like, oh, motherfuckers call me from an iPhone. | ||
| Thought it was a flip phone. | ||
| Anyway, a lot... | ||
| I just need to tell you because you're my friend. | ||
| No one else... | ||
| Who listens to me, Joe? | ||
| Why? | ||
| You're so smart. | ||
| They should all listen. | ||
| Who's not listening and what are you saying that they're not listening to? | ||
| What I'm saying is that just look at the evidence in front of you. | ||
| I think that this is a globalist type of movement. | ||
| I think a lot of it has been driven by China. | ||
| They have their hooks in a lot of us, in a lot of different areas, in politics, in education, in finance, in fucking every media, Hollywood, sports, they're in everything. | ||
| And I think that if this was a plan, I think that it was intended for some other date. | ||
| Not all the players and the pieces were in place. | ||
| Remember a conspiracy therapist analyzing it. | ||
| But a go signal was thrown by them. | ||
| And by the way, the New York Times reported 140,000 Twitter bots were targeting Italy with these Chinese shutdown videos. | ||
| So I think that had something to do with it, how the mechanisms of social media were used to get people to shut down. | ||
| And there seem to be a lot of dishonest people in the medical field, left, right, whatever. | ||
| I don't care what the president says. | ||
| Just looking at all the different voices out there. | ||
| You've seen them. | ||
| You see what's getting taken off of YouTube. | ||
| I've got questions. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Seems like some valid things are out there that are told to shut up. | ||
| Well, there is a problem with stifling debate, right? | ||
| It's a problem. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Especially when these people, some of them, Whether you agree or disagree with that all infidelity is caused by demons, wasn't that one of the things that lady said? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| What'd she say? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Dr. Simone. | ||
| Dr. Simone? | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I know which one. | ||
| What'd she say about alien DNA? Well, she has a typical Caribbean-type church with all kinds of whacked-out shit. | ||
| There's some strange ideas. | ||
| Yeah, well, Catholic Church, Judaism, there's all kinds of weird stuff everywhere. | ||
| Shouldn't you let those people talk? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| You don't have to shut him down. | ||
| And shouldn't you have a video that responds to that that explains, hey, this is actually what's going on. | ||
| The reason why she thinks that is because she doesn't understand blah blah blah or here's what she's saying that's valid because of this, that, and the other. | ||
| the problem is you're either with us or against us and it's been the problem with human beings since the beginning of time we are team players we love a team we love being american you know how many people got happy my old studio because i had american flag like i love the new look Woo! | ||
| Because I'm on Team America, right? | ||
| We get on teams, whether it's Team Progressive or Team Conservative or Team Rational or Centrist or, you know, you don't think the Libertarians are taking it far enough. | ||
| All that stuff is a problem with labels. | ||
| I think labels should be illegal. | ||
| If cocaine's illegal, labels should be illegal as well. | ||
| There shouldn't be no Democratic Party, no Republican Party, Green Party. | ||
| Stop! | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| Libertarians, everybody just thinks you're mean. | ||
| Let's stop with the names. | ||
| I'm just unaffiliated. | ||
| Unaffiliated. | ||
| How about it would benefit everybody? | ||
| You don't have to be. | ||
| If you wanted to combat, if you really wanted to... | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| Because then people would feel suppressed and they would want to get back at you. | ||
| They would go more hardcore underground, like backwoods parties. | ||
| I believe there is an element in our society that is small but has interesting powerful positions that hate America. | ||
| I mean, they're not left or right, they just have whole different ideas. | ||
| Inside this country? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Is it that they hate America, or is it their interests, like, it's more profitable or beneficial for them? | ||
| I guess it's always for power. | ||
| To try to do something. | ||
| There's ideologies. | ||
| Look, I think, you're right, all Americans, I know, we're good people. | ||
| But I mean, I don't even like saying that. | ||
| I do. | ||
| People are generally good people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The vast majority. | ||
| Otherwise, we'd all be dead. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because you would kill me. | ||
| But when you have a whole... | ||
| And then Jamie would kill you. | ||
| A whole... | ||
| Sea of media around you that we live in telling you it's black, it's white, it's left, it's right, it's up, it's down. | ||
| This is why I encourage podcasts. | ||
| And this is why I have to create podcastindex.org to be independent from Apple, mainly. | ||
| I think that's a good idea. | ||
| But however, as a company, Apple's taken the most uniquely neutral approach when it comes to podcasts. | ||
| Apple has been an excellent steward of podcasting. | ||
| An excellent steward. | ||
| Maybe the best because they're not profiting off of it. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| And this did kind of remind... | ||
| I fucked up when I met Steve Jobs 15 years ago and he wanted me to bless podcasting and iTunes. | ||
| We talked about that last time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I also gave him my copy of the index that we had built at the time, which kind of made Apple the de facto on-ramp to submitting your podcast because all other apps and everything has been connected and getting their information and their searches from Apple's database. | ||
| So when Alex Jones was taken off of Apple Podcast, plop, plop, plop like dominoes, all these other apps no longer had the ability to carry that feed because creating your own index is a big fucking pain in the ass and the average independent software developer would rather work on the experience and make categories and feature who he wants to because Apple would feature NPR, | ||
| PBS. So there's all these experiences that can be built and these app developers can compete with If you don't mind, Spotify, iHeart. | ||
| I'm just telling you, honest, we need to have an outside place. | ||
| I'm putting up my own money and people donate or not. | ||
| And I love that structure. | ||
| Yeah, I think we can retool it to a platform of value. | ||
| I mean, have ideas. | ||
| So this will be ready like soon. | ||
| There's always certainly a concern when any company has a relative monopoly, whether it's YouTube or iTunes. | ||
| And they're not bad. | ||
| They've been great guys. | ||
| But what we were talking about with YouTube, managing its scale is almost impossible. | ||
| And I think people tend to lean towards control and minimizing damage, right? | ||
| So if you're dealing with 31 million different YouTube channels, and then you have how many different videos each one of them puts out, If you're thrust into this situation, what do you think the amount of videos every day that go through YouTube's net is? | ||
| Let's guess that. | ||
| It's hundreds of millions of hours. | ||
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500 hours a minute. | |
| Oh my god! | ||
| By the way, YouTube's money... | ||
| You should never live long enough to watch everything on YouTube. | ||
| 500 hours a minute? | ||
| Yeah, YouTube's real money comes from all those cat videos and other shit. | ||
| That's the long tail. | ||
| That's where all the real money is. | ||
| We get pretty long views. | ||
| But as an elite messaging system, it's all breaking down. | ||
| That's kind of the problem. | ||
| Well, the problem is it's not decentralized. | ||
| Right? | ||
| The problem is there's a company that's in control of it rather than it being in control by the people that are using it. | ||
| This is the problem with all of Silicon Valley. | ||
| I fucking hate them for this. | ||
| And that's why I have a flip phone. | ||
| I love your technology. | ||
| I hate your fucking business model. | ||
| But I think that their situation, if I could just for a second, I think it's unmanageable. | ||
| And I think when they look at their ethics and what they want to do with community and their standards in terms of society, They think it's almost unmanageable if you allow people to harass people or say terrible words or attack people or say crazy shit about 9-11 or promote some weird things about the earth being flat and the moon being fake. | ||
| There's something about them that they just want to stop it! | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| It's not true! | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| You want to step in. | ||
| Well, why do you think that is? | ||
| Well, it's just human nature, man. | ||
| It's an ideology. | ||
| There's ideology. | ||
| No, but why do you think they want to stop it? | ||
| I think they want to stop it because it doesn't align with what they've accepted as important enough to talk about. | ||
| But the problem with telling people what's important enough to talk about is if someone has a crazy idea like, hey man, the earth is hollow and aliens live inside of it. | ||
| You have to be able to say, well... | ||
| Certainly one theory. | ||
| Someone has to be able to come along and say, hey, this is how we know the Earth's not hollow, and this is how we measure the density of the Earth. | ||
| This is how we know about the core. | ||
| The problem is not that these people are influencing other morons. | ||
| The problem is that there's a massive failure in education. | ||
| You can't suck me into a flat earth video, man. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| I mean, I didn't spend a whole lot of time in school, but I understand psychology. | ||
| I understand from the point of not trusting people. | ||
| I know when people are full of shit. | ||
| And when someone is making a video, they're the one who has all the information about the fact that the world is hollow and that there's aliens that live inside of it. | ||
| It's an attractive myth. | ||
| It pulls you in. | ||
| But I understand what people are doing. | ||
| I think all of this does have a benefit. | ||
| I think so too. | ||
| Conspiracy theories, QAnon, vaxxers, anti-vaxxers. | ||
| It doesn't really matter. | ||
| The Wayfair, children being shipped in cabinets, the adrenochrome, the celebrities eating children and babies and horrible things. | ||
| All of that, what that does is it Is getting people to, and this is why I think they want it to be stopped, or people want it to be stopped, because at least people are looking at other things and consuming things and making decisions and saying, okay, maybe I should question this, question that. | ||
| This does have a way of getting people to be more aware and question more things, and that, in its basis, I think is really good. | ||
| We've got training wheels on probably right now. | ||
| People have no idea. | ||
| We still have tailbones, Joe Rogan. | ||
| Hey, that sounded Jamaican. | ||
| We still have tailbones, Joe Rogan. | ||
| It's all Iron Man. | ||
| Yeah, we do. | ||
| So what is this doing to us? | ||
| What is this instant access everywhere doing to us? | ||
| Well, it's certainly having an effect on how we view and what our expectations are of reality. | ||
| The way we view reality is totally different now. | ||
| The idea of running around without a phone is preposterous. | ||
| The idea of not having a navigation system on your car is preposterous. | ||
| I have one car that doesn't have AC, it doesn't have... | ||
| Oh, it's a Porsche. | ||
| Yeah, the little 911 from 1993. It's raw as fuck, man. | ||
| I had an 84 911 Carrera. | ||
| It doesn't have power steering. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| And the thing that happens when you... | ||
| If you're forced into that situation where you have to drive something like that, you go, oh, I've got to pay attention to everything. | ||
| You can get into a drone state, just follow... | ||
| Left in one quarter of a mile... | ||
| On Bridge Road, you're like, oh Bridge Road, time to turn left. | ||
| And you just, you get into a zombie. | ||
| Well, so that's part, so my not having a smartphone with me is not because of, I mean, we're being tracked, there's all kinds of ways to track. | ||
| What? | ||
| It's more about... | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| You think we're being tracked? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Russia or China? | ||
| Or maybe our own? | ||
| Fucking commercial companies. | ||
| They can sell it to whoever they want. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| Google! | ||
| The US government doesn't have to spy on you. | ||
| They just go to Google or 10 other companies and buy your location data. | ||
| Is the problem that we gave up the commodity of data? | ||
| We gave it up. | ||
| No, we just need to be responsible and create less data and be smarter about it. | ||
| First of all, I got enough problems in my life. | ||
| I don't want to be notified all the time when I'm moving around. | ||
| But could that have been stopped had we had a time machine? | ||
| And you could understand what data would be in 2020 versus in 1998. We've gone back and went, wait a minute, wait a minute, stop. | ||
| Data is a massive commodity that's worth billions and billions of dollars, and we are treating it like it's not important. | ||
| We're treating it like the content is the most important thing on the internet. | ||
| But clearly, the thing that generates the most money for Google and Facebook and everybody else is not that, right? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| For sure, it's the data. | ||
| It's finding out where people live, what they buy, what their interests are, what websites you visit. | ||
| Building a shadow profile of you, yes. | ||
| How much money do you have? | ||
| What do you do online shopping? | ||
| Do you use Visa, American Express? | ||
| This is why Silicon Valley is competing with the Federal Reserve to be your bank. | ||
| Everybody wants to be your bank, baby. | ||
| Everybody wants it, because that's when they control you. | ||
| But that's also when you get loans at negative interest rate, so they actually pay you to take the loan, to which you can pay off your student loan. | ||
| You're scaring the fuck out of me. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| This is what you wanted. | ||
| You wanted universal basic income. | ||
| Here it comes. | ||
| And, by the way, it's going to work. | ||
| This is the crazy thing. | ||
| Now, the control will also work. | ||
| But the economy will be steerable. | ||
| I think that part will really work. | ||
| But let me tell you, the apocalypse is coming and you're going to need a Bitcoin. | ||
| At least one. | ||
| Are you a Bitcoin salesman, Adam Curry? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I was very anti-Bitcoin. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I was very anti-Bitcoin until I sold a shitload of them at like $900 and I could have really... | ||
| Made a lot of money. | ||
| Yeah, I got them for nothing. | ||
| People just gave them to me in the beginning and I denied it. | ||
| And then when you look at 10 years, I'm like, okay, fuck all the altcoins and all that stuff. | ||
| That's what I was going to ask you. | ||
| Nah, I don't give a shit about that. | ||
| It's a store of value for me. | ||
| Here's the question about Bitcoin. | ||
| Is there a risk in having that be the standard? | ||
| Like, why can't there be competing cryptocurrencies? | ||
| Do we have to get committed to one? | ||
| And if we do get committed to one, is there the possibility of some sort of manipulation, the same way we've seen with All the other currencies, when people get involved. | ||
| Ten years of data have shown that Bitcoin really is the only one that you can trust. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| I just said right for no reason. | ||
| Yeah, the way I see it, that's really the only one that you cannot manipulate and all of the other coins are based off of it. | ||
| Do you know Andreas Antonopoulos? | ||
| No, the name rings a bell. | ||
| I know Max Keiser. | ||
| I've learned a lot. | ||
| Max has been saying this from day one. | ||
| Anyway, so we have enough historical information to see that that is increased in value no matter what you look at. | ||
| The US dollar, back to my $5,000 truck in the 70s, $50,000 now, that value of that dollar has diminished by 10%. | ||
| Because they've just been printing more and more money. | ||
| Is that why? | ||
| Or because of communists? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Yeah, well, of course. | ||
| Hippies and communists? | ||
| So, for sure, the United States ruined the USSR with financial trickery. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| But now we're just at the end of our rope. | ||
| Wasn't a lot of it the space race? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Don't take me there, Joe Rogan. | ||
| That wasn't financial trickery. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| It was all about devaluation. | ||
| It was really quite amazing. | ||
| Multiple levels of manipulation. | ||
| We fucked them good. | ||
| We fucked them real good. | ||
| You know, a friend of mine who's a computer wizard was doing this thing where he was tracing these certain pages that were organizing, like, Antifa rallies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he would follow the IP back to Russia. | ||
| What the fuck, man? | ||
| Maybe Russia, maybe China. | ||
| Hillary Clinton called them techno-experts, and we sent them in to the fucking Balkans. | ||
| Ukraine, we did all that. | ||
| That's all our techno-experts. | ||
| Right now you have Belarus. | ||
| You know, people are protesting, and it's really being organized around one telegram channel called Nextra, and these guys worked for U.S. State Department. | ||
| You know, they got pictures and selfies of themselves in the State Department. | ||
| You know, they're obviously some kind of propaganda outfit, but they have, you know, two million followers, and those people are like, okay, we go protest over here, a lot like Black Lives Matter. | ||
| You know, this stuff is being coordinated. | ||
| Again, with this, it's so important to talk about nuance and not being connected to any ideas. | ||
| This is just my view, man. | ||
| This is what I'm thinking today, bro. | ||
| I got no agenda, literally. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| You're also not right. | ||
| There's also a bunch of people that are involved in that that really have good intentions. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| I'm generalizing to the max. | ||
| No, no, you're not even generalizing. | ||
| You're stating a fact that foreign interests are manipulating our outrage. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| Yeah, but we're also doing it to other countries. | ||
| We are. | ||
| And we're doing it internally as well. | ||
| Do you know who Rene DeRost is? | ||
| Yes, she was... | ||
| She's been on this podcast. | ||
| Yeah, it's very interesting because that company that she worked for actually apparently worked for the special election in Georgia, I think it was, and actually applied some of those tactics. | ||
| Is that for sure, 100%? | ||
| I don't know, shit 100%. | ||
| I think, I think, I think. | ||
| Maybe that is true with the company that she worked for, but I don't believe... | ||
| She may not have been involved in it anymore. | ||
| I do not believe she would have been. | ||
| She's a very interesting person. | ||
| They knew how to do it. | ||
| They had figured out how to do this stuff. | ||
| Her podcast with Sam Harris, have you ever listened to it? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| It's amazing. | ||
| I've heard... | ||
| It's a couple years back, maybe two years back. | ||
| And that's around the time... | ||
| Jamie, when was she on here? | ||
| What was the name of that group she was with? | ||
| Because it was a foundation, then it turned into a company. | ||
| And the Data for Democracy. | ||
| And I know a bunch of people said... | ||
| What was the first one? | ||
|
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New Knowledge. | |
| New Knowledge, that's what it was. | ||
| I know a bunch of people said that they were involved in some things that mirrored some of the things she was talking about, but I'm like... | ||
| Maybe they were, but I don't think that's for her. | ||
| She's not the company she works for, she's an individual. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Absolutely, absolutely. | ||
| But as an individual talking to her about all these different memes and all these different companies that were, these people that were involved in Russia from the IRA, the Internet Research Agency, they're actively manipulating outrage. | ||
| They're trying to fuck with people. | ||
| They're trying to make people upset, and it's working. | ||
| Yeah, but this is being done by everyone's doing this. | ||
| They're marketing companies doing it for their clients. | ||
| They're fast food companies, Burger King and McDonald's. | ||
| Are they going to war? | ||
| They're like slam fest on social media all the time. | ||
| They're like upping one other, fuck you Burger King, fuck you Pizza Hut. | ||
| This is completely cultural. | ||
| Shit is changing, man. | ||
| They're all lucky that In-N-Out is a silent killer. | ||
| In-N-Out just goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Go ahead with your ads, you fucking idiots. | ||
| Have you tried our Whataburger? | ||
| You like Whataburger? | ||
| You guys are cute with your Whataburger comparison to In-N-Out. | ||
| You can eat shit. | ||
| And by the way, even In-N-Out loses to five guys. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Whataburger uses special people to serve. | ||
| Five guys uses jalapenos. | ||
| You know what I'm talking about, James. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Murderers? | ||
| So we have mentally challenged people serving you at Whataburger. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| And they're fucking fantastic. | ||
| Oh, well that's cool. | ||
| And they will talk about the ketchup and they recognize you. | ||
| What if you're in a hurry? | ||
| Then you should not be going to Whataburger. | ||
| Go to fucking Whataburger there. | ||
| Five guys, whatever you want. | ||
| You do not deserve the Whataburger experience. | ||
| You can't be in a hurry at either one of those places. | ||
| Both of those, the reason why they're awesome is they cook them right in front of you. | ||
| See, it's like, cook them right in front of you or I hate myself and I want Jack in the Box. | ||
| Those are the questions that we need to answer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm really only a Burger King or McDonald's guy. | ||
| Dude, my issue would be late at night coming home from comedy if I was exhausted and tired. | ||
| I did like two shows, the Irvine Improv, then I drove the hour. | ||
| I'm going to stop at McDonald's and eat three filet of fish like a fucking wolf. | ||
| I need it. | ||
| Hey man, are you going to miss your hang there at the comedy store? | ||
| It doesn't exist right now and it's currently banned. | ||
| You know what's not banned? | ||
| Alcohol. | ||
| Alright brother, cheers. | ||
| Alcohol is somehow or another better than jokes. | ||
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Cheers. | |
| Cheers. | ||
| People are drinking themselves to death and hanging themselves with ceiling fans. | ||
| So I need to talk to you about the division part, because we can do something about this. | ||
| I think we can. | ||
| The division part. | ||
| I'm reluctantly coming to the acceptance that this stupid fucking show that I created a long time ago with Brian Redman and young Jamie Vernon has some sort of social responsibility. | ||
| I mean, it's the amount of people that listen. | ||
| I'm a moron. | ||
| You're not supposed to be taking advice from me. | ||
| If I connect you to people that are interesting, congratulations. | ||
| But trust me, I, like you, am trying to figure my own things out. | ||
| If I'm 13 steps ahead in terms of like we're running a marathon, 13 steps ahead of you or 13 steps behind, we're all doing the same thing. | ||
| We're all just trying to get better. | ||
| Wherever we are, at any point in time, we're trying to get better. | ||
| And the best thing that anybody could ever encourage you to do is think for yourself. | ||
| Use real, critical thinking. | ||
| Don't connect yourself because... | ||
| Look, people drive by me with American flags. | ||
| I'm a sucker, okay? | ||
| I'm a sucker for America. | ||
| I love America! | ||
| My grandparents came here from Italy. | ||
| They had a great goddamn time. | ||
| They created my mom, they created me, and my sister. | ||
| We are Americans. | ||
| So I see that flag, I'm like, fuck yeah! | ||
| America, baby. | ||
| Fucking America! | ||
| But I think there's a problem with any kind of teams. | ||
| There's a problem with any time we look at each other like we're, I'm a this and you're a that, so fuck you. | ||
| And I think we need, this is what we need to abandon. | ||
| We need to abandon our attachments to ideologies, even ideologies that we haven't recognized as ideologies. | ||
| Like, you know, like, whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| The problem is not brown pride. | ||
| Like, Cain Velasquez, you know who he is? | ||
| No. | ||
| He's like one of the greatest UFC heavyweights of all time. | ||
| The only thing that kept him from being the GOAT, the greatest of all time ever, is the fact that he kept getting injured. | ||
| He had a bunch of injuries, like shoulder surgeries, knee surgeries, back surgery. | ||
| He had a cage put around his spine. | ||
| But part of the problem was his will to fuck people up was stronger than his body. | ||
| And so he would push his body past its limits and he just kept getting injured. | ||
| But that's also what made him so special. | ||
| Because when he was on top, he would just smash people. | ||
| Just run through them. | ||
| He's the most American motherfucker of all time because his dad walked here from Mexico. | ||
| His dad walked! | ||
| Walked! | ||
| From Mexico. | ||
| He lives in San Jose. | ||
| You know how long that took? | ||
| That's a long fucking walk and his dad worked hard and gave him a life and then he became, in my opinion, when he was at his best, the greatest heavyweight I've ever seen. | ||
| In my opinion. | ||
| He was a force of nature. | ||
| Insane cardio. | ||
| But his ability to overcome... | ||
| He could push through things that other people weren't willing to. | ||
| That's why his body fell apart. | ||
| His knees blew out. | ||
| His back blew out. | ||
| Everything broke. | ||
| But it was because his mind was so strong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's America. | ||
| That's America. | ||
| That's as America as it gets. | ||
| As are my roots from Ireland, Scotland, Germany, exactly the same. | ||
| So what if... | ||
| We're very sensitive. | ||
| I think the root of most of this is coming from the racial issue, black-white. | ||
| And we need to define some terms. | ||
| And this, I think, is very helpful. | ||
| Instead of saying African American, black American, black, negro, whatever we've had in the past, I prefer ADOS, which is a lot of people understand this now, which is American descendant of slavery. | ||
| That makes very clear who you're talking about. | ||
| So you can say black, but Kamala Harris, not black. | ||
| Black, yes. | ||
| Black in color, but not American descendant of slavery. | ||
| So you would make a clear distinction between an American descendant of slavery and someone who came from Nigeria. | ||
| If we want to fucking fix our country, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, we got to do that. | ||
| If we want to fix our country, this is what we have to do. | ||
| Malcolm X said before he became, you know, Nation of Islam, crazy, a little off the radar for me. | ||
| He said, the only way to fix the racial problem in the United States of America is to have a white man and a black man sit down at the table and work the fucking shit out. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| I've been doing that for a year. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because of a podcast, MoFax, with Adam Curry. | ||
| But I've been talking to this. | ||
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I like how he did that. | |
| I've been talking to this. | ||
| This is exactly what happened. | ||
| He started calling me, explaining to me what ADOS was. | ||
| I was trying to figure it out on No Agenda. | ||
| And we were talking for an hour once a week. | ||
| I said, fuck it, this is a podcast. | ||
| And I have gotten an education in his... | ||
| Does he have a website? | ||
| Who is he? | ||
| MoFacts.com. | ||
| M-O-E-F-A-C-T-Z. MoFacts.com. | ||
| Is that his real name? | ||
| His name is Mo. | ||
| That's short for Maurice. | ||
| But it's not Fax. | ||
| Is that his last name? | ||
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No. | |
| Imagine if it was. | ||
| It's like he was born for this. | ||
| He's like the Dalai Lama. | ||
| Well, it's like Trump is 45 Savage. | ||
| You know, you gotta have your... | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| 45 Savage, 45th President, 45 Savage. | ||
| What is 45 Savage? | ||
| That's President Trump. | ||
| But what... | ||
| That's his nickname. | ||
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It's a rapper called 21 Savage, yeah. | |
| Oh! | ||
| Hello, bro. | ||
|
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Hello. | |
| Somehow or another, I'm younger than you, but older than you. | ||
| I got lucky this time. | ||
| I got fucking lucky. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| I'm listening to country music lately. | ||
| What if our problem... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So when you have ADOS, American Descendants of Slavery, which Mo is one. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you have ADOS, when politicians say the black and brown community, they feel fucked. | ||
| Because this is a group of very special Americans who deserve to be recognized as such. | ||
| This is why they've always been led down the path of voting Democrat, and now all this shit is in play. | ||
| So that's why black-white is always played on us, because that's our weak spot. | ||
| That's our Achilles heel. | ||
| We're embarrassed about it. | ||
| Yeah, I agree with you. | ||
| Fuck yeah, America. | ||
| I love my country. | ||
| I love our country, but we have some fucked up shit. | ||
| Instead of dealing with it, we're letting other people hijack us over it. | ||
| That's what's going on here. | ||
| And it's not racism that we suffer from. | ||
| It's nepotism. | ||
| It's nepotism. | ||
| And I'll explain why. | ||
| If it truly was... | ||
| And I can tell you, systemic racism absolutely existed in America. | ||
| And it went all the way up into the 70s with no man-about-the-house rule. | ||
| When they came up from the South and went into the projects created by, I guess, FDR. And, you know, because they typically ate their own food, now they're coming here to work. | ||
| So the projects were created on welfare, but you could not have a man in the house. | ||
| And this went into the 70s, the patrols, making sure that there was no family with children and a father. | ||
| Now we have 75% of all children in America without a father in the household. | ||
| You and I, we've got parent privilege. | ||
| We're not white privilege, parent privilege. | ||
| A man. | ||
| My dad didn't work out that great with us, but he did put some shit into me. | ||
| And he was around, and that influence was there. | ||
| That's our problem. | ||
| Who's running Black Lives Matter? | ||
| Name me one male leader of Black Lives Matter. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's all women. | ||
| And I have no problem with it. | ||
| But I do question what's going on here. | ||
| I can't argue with you because I don't know who the leaders are. | ||
| Oh, Patrisse Cullors. | ||
| There's a number of women who... | ||
| And they all come from old, radical, kind of Marxist... | ||
| Just one more thing. | ||
| True communists in 1936 tried to—they wanted to come and overthrow America. | ||
| This has been going on for a long time. | ||
| We tried to export democracy. | ||
| They tried to bring socialism into us. | ||
| Clear. | ||
| We do it by blowing your country up and rebuilding it. | ||
| And they do it other ways. | ||
| They came in. | ||
| They wanted to propagate this message. | ||
| And no white people came. | ||
| But the poor black people came. | ||
| And so they became very associated with Marxism and leftist ideas. | ||
| And they were basically taken through into what is today, I guess, the Democratic Party. | ||
| And that's not working anymore because there's just strife and there's no real solutions. | ||
| And even the first African-American president, not ADOS, Didn't really deliver for them. | ||
| So this election, this time right now, they're fucking with us because of this one thing, for their own power, left and right. | ||
|
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Is it a... | |
| Oh, man. | ||
| That was an excellent joint I smoked earlier. | ||
| It's very good. | ||
| Very good stuff. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| Is it possible that we're in this weird state with people because we've decided that we're losing power in other aspects of our life, so we're getting more and more determined to take it back in other places? | ||
| Because of the fact that so many people have been denied the ability to make a living, I mean, it's kind of crazy. | ||
| I mean, I don't know what to think about it, but it seems to me that if I'm allowed to go to certain essential businesses with a mask on and no one's dying, I mean, if I'm going to a supermarket and everyone's wearing a mask, everybody seems okay, right? | ||
| And scientists seem to think they're okay. | ||
| At what point in time do we allow that for everywhere? | ||
| And at what point in time do we allow people to take chances? | ||
| We allow people to flip dirt bikes. | ||
| We allow people to fucking jump out of helicopters. | ||
| We allow people to do all kinds of crazy shit. | ||
| We allow people to wingsuit. | ||
| Why don't we allow people to not wear a mask? | ||
| Why don't we allow people to open up their business? | ||
| Why don't we allow people to do whatever they wanted to? | ||
| Is it really the right? | ||
| And the idea is, well, you have to protect the other people. | ||
| I agree, you do have to protect the other people. | ||
| But one of the things that's going to make the other people more vulnerable is to collapse the economy. | ||
| And we're not saying that for some reason. | ||
| There's this weird thing where politicians want you to love them. | ||
| And they want you to love them. | ||
| So if you are leaning towards defunding the police and making sure that all the socialism ideas get accepted into major universities and it gets taught in the curriculum and grade school, if you drone on enough and the person who's running for mayor knows the only way that they can win is to embrace your ideas, they're going to fucking do it. | ||
| We got a dirty system. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| And you should be able to vote from your phone, right? | ||
| But you can't, right? | ||
| So we got this weird, corrupted, fucking intertwined system that... | ||
| I mean, it's all voodoo. | ||
| Well, first of all, every country gets the government she deserves. | ||
| The question is not, why do we allow people to tell us what to do? | ||
| It is, why are we allowing them to actually tell us what to fucking do? | ||
| Seriously, we are afraid. | ||
| The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. | ||
| This is a good one. | ||
| It's one thing to say, the plane might crash, the car might crash, you might get hit by a car, you might die of an overdose. | ||
| It's another thing to say, some other fucker without a mask might kill you, bitch. | ||
| That's some real fucking fear and that's not to be taken lightly. | ||
| That is not to be taken lightly. | ||
| Fucked with us over this. | ||
| I don't care whether it's true or not or what's true or not, the cavalier nature of this shutdown and fear and colors and stages and numbers and charts and connecting it to the stock markets. | ||
| I don't like that about President Trump at all. | ||
| But see, he looks at what he calls the economy. | ||
| I don't know if he's behind this digital dollar or not, but I think we're all going to be taken care of. | ||
| The $10 million are going to be on a universal basic income, and that's going to happen. | ||
| I'm not worried about that. | ||
| But what are we left with, and just where do we go from there, is going to be the question. | ||
| Because what is Joe Biden and Kamala Harris' slogan? | ||
| Do you know what their slogan is? | ||
| Brain damage in prison time? | ||
| Fuck, it should be. | ||
| Build back better. | ||
| That's pretty clever. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's so clever that the same slogan is used by the United Nations, the Green New Deal organization, 350.org. | ||
| Boris Johnson is using it as his campaign. | ||
| Francois Macron using it as his campaign. | ||
| Justin Trudeau, build back better. | ||
| This is a globalist plan... | ||
| Build back better. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| It means we're going to shut down all coal and gas and fracking and we're going as much as possible to transition to solar and wind. | ||
| Doesn't that sound like a good idea if it's feasible? | ||
| Yeah, I don't think it's feasible. | ||
| But what is being promised with the Green New Deal is we will create good-paying, green new jobs. | ||
| Now, that's just a philosophy whether you think it's good or not. | ||
| Right now, I don't think so. | ||
| But, for sure, I know that Bill Gates, who's a big part of this Green New Deal, that he's investing in nuclear plants. | ||
| Because when the sun don't shine and the wind don't blow, you need some power and it's going to come from his nuclear plants. | ||
| How does Bill Gates have any ambition left? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Maybe he's being blackmailed. | ||
| What do you think he knows? | ||
| No, I think he's being blackmailed with stuff he's done. | ||
| I don't know for sure. | ||
| He showed up without a sweater? | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Someone's got a picture of him with a tank top on doing the fucking most muscular. | ||
| Yeah, you can't... | ||
| This is another thing, man. | ||
| This whole Epstein business. | ||
| This has gotten millennials... | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Bill Gates meets with Jeffrey Epstein many times despite his past. | ||
| So this has gotten everyone nuts. | ||
| The kids are going like, ah, that guy... | ||
| And you know... | ||
| It's good, though, because there's something there, obviously. | ||
| There's obviously something there. | ||
| Obviously something there. | ||
| Who the fuck knows what it is? | ||
| Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. | ||
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Stop. | |
| You seem to be one of those guys who's really into conspiracies. | ||
| No. | ||
| Let me break this down. | ||
| Let me break this down. | ||
| There's no way there's anything more to what you're seeing in the news. | ||
| When it comes to a story, excuse me, please, sir, about a man who traveled to Fuck Island with Bill Clinton 26 times. | ||
| Did he fly with Bill 26 times or did he travel to Fuck Island? | ||
| The government just fined me. | ||
| They just took the money straight out of my digital dollar wallet. | ||
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Yeah, you thought you were fucking free with that flip phone. | |
| Son, you're connected to the internet. | ||
| This is what's so beautiful, man. | ||
| You're in the universe. | ||
| I'm in the universe. | ||
| Dave Rubin's in the universe. | ||
| Ben Shapiro's in the universe. | ||
| Alex Jones is in the universe. | ||
| People are... | ||
| There's a whole new structure. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We're out of control. | ||
| We don't know what the fuck they're doing. | ||
| They're going to try and control all of us one way or the other. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But the internet, we pretty much have that. | ||
| We got free reign, man. | ||
| We do, but we don't. | ||
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We got it. | |
| Nah, we got so much. | ||
| We have a lot, but there's also a lot of censorship. | ||
| You don't need any of that. | ||
| You set up Mastodon. | ||
| You got your own network. | ||
| You don't need any of that. | ||
| Yeah, but let's be realistic. | ||
| When it comes down to it, Joe... | ||
| For sure. | ||
| But there's a lot of people that had prominent voices that are silenced. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Right? | ||
| But they're now very prominent in a much smaller circle. | ||
| I'm prominent in a circle. | ||
| It got bigger once I visited you and I hope that yours got bigger as well. | ||
| And the two can be completely unaware of each other and crossovers happen and the network starts to grow. | ||
| It's a whole new way of communicating. | ||
| No, I understand that, and I agree. | ||
| I know you appreciate it. | ||
| I do. | ||
| What's happening before, that you're a part of. | ||
| But there's certain people that just get banned forever from some social media platforms. | ||
| Yeah, but not from other ones. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| Yeah, but in this environment, shouldn't we take into account, like if you were going to ban someone, if you were going to say, listen, there's a rational expectation that a person should be able to say your beliefs are not in the line with theirs, they're going to kick you off this business that they own. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But when it gets to be YouTube and you've got 31 million subscribers, how many hours? | ||
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500 hours a minute. | |
| 500 hours a minute. | ||
| It's such a pipeline. | ||
| You can't tell me you're really monitoring this thing correctly. | ||
| It's not possible. | ||
| No, of course it's not. | ||
| That's why everything has to be distributed. | ||
| It has to break apart. | ||
| But I think there should be much more stringent rules on whether or not you can ban someone. | ||
| Oh, I so don't give a flying fuck about what Facebook or YouTube or Google do. | ||
| It's so unimportant in the vast scale of what we can do with the network. | ||
| I understand that, and I agree. | ||
| But in the individual, the person who has the YouTube channel, who has earned this position of prominence... | ||
| Yeah, and got screwed. | ||
| And got screwed. | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| No, it's not fair. | ||
| It's also not rational that they could just do it. | ||
| They don't have to go through a lengthy court proceeding. | ||
| They could just remove your income. | ||
| Okay, a couple of things. | ||
| I believe on the commercial platforms that we're talking about in this case, the problem is the business model, advertisers don't like controversy. | ||
| Advertising has gone down drastically since the word coronavirus or COVID-19 was blocked because they didn't want controversy. | ||
| So that's the reason why these networks do it. | ||
| Yes, there's people who ban conservatives specifically, but that's because of the elite messaging system, the mainstream media, also the pharmaceutical industry, a lot of finance, is this message. | ||
| So that's what advertisers want. | ||
| Look at the pussies that the NBA are and Nike and how they kowtow to everybody. | ||
| Yes, I said it. | ||
| Look at how they kowtow and what they will and will not allow. | ||
| So that's all money-based. | ||
| Very capitalistic, by the way. | ||
| That's totally cool. | ||
| But now we go to the way you and I were raised. | ||
| You're 50? | ||
| You're 52? | ||
| 53 now. | ||
| Yeah, I'm 56 tomorrow. | ||
| Basically halfway dead. | ||
| I want to be 106. I'm going to be 98. That's my target, 98. Why that number? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, my grandparents both lived to 98, my paternal grandparents. | ||
| The reason why I brought up Gavin is that I think that there... | ||
| I have had a couple podcasts with him, and people have had, like, weird conversations with me about it. | ||
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Sure, yeah. | |
| And I've said... | ||
| This is one of the things that I've said. | ||
| I was like, look, that guy's mostly fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Mostly fun. | ||
| And like anybody that does wild shit... | ||
| You can get lost in the woods. | ||
| And if you get lost in the woods of race or whether or not people should be able to do drugs or whether or not people should get paid a minimum wage that's a livable wage, you get lost in the woods of any ideology and it becomes a problem. | ||
| For whatever reason, when someone shifts one way or another and we conflict with those ideas, we never give anybody any room for just being a person. | ||
| Most of the time, I've been around that guy. | ||
| He's a nice guy. | ||
| Right, but let's go to the basics of how I... There's two things I was taught growing up. | ||
| Sticks and stones will break my bones. | ||
| Names will never hurt me. | ||
| Secondary, I will... | ||
| That shit was created in the Depression. | ||
| Names are fucking terrible. | ||
| They're so mean. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I can pinpoint when that happened, too. | ||
| So, we had that, and then the, I don't like what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. | ||
| These were the two core values that I was raised with. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| That's so important. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about with everybody, whether it's Alex Jones. | ||
| Those were the core values. | ||
| Gavin McGinnis. | ||
| And that is our constitutional deal. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's the deal. | ||
| And this includes Louis Farrakhan. | ||
| This includes everyone. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| Mitch O'Connell. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| Tell me what you think, bro. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
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Right? | |
| All of them. | ||
| And this is so important. | ||
| The moment we stop other people from expressing their opinions, first of all, we are coddling everybody else. | ||
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Stop. | |
| This is where it happened. | ||
| We're trying to pretend that other people are dumber than us. | ||
| Like, I know. | ||
| I know that that preacher's full of shit. | ||
| But I need to protect you, Adam Curry, because you might just give up your money for this one person because he needs a new jet. | ||
| Okay, so this started about six years ago when hate speech came into the conversation and bullying. | ||
| And bullying became bullying laws, which I remember because we were doing the show and we're like, this is an actual First Amendment violation to create a law that says you can't say something mean about somebody else. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| Now, it may not be nice, it may not be appropriate in the setting, it may not be according to the school rules, but actual laws were created. | ||
| So now we have hate speech and hate crimes, which is really undefinable, but it's all, sadly, all... | ||
| Geared towards controlling. | ||
| What the fuck you can say? | ||
| Well, it's a natural human instinct when you have power to exert it. | ||
| It's natural. | ||
| It's why there's alphas and betas. | ||
| We're too good, man. | ||
| We're nice fucking people. | ||
| And we let us men be treated as doofuses in every single commercial, every TV show, Oh, sorry, honey. | ||
| I got the wrong washing powder. | ||
| Do you know why we do that? | ||
| Because we want to fuck. | ||
| I know. | ||
| We've got to get over that shit. | ||
| We've got to get over that shit. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I fucked up the laundry. | ||
| Once you learn that that woman is just as sex-crazed as you are, she just has a different way of expressing it. | ||
| Once you figure that out, and you play that game, and they play your game, and you're equal. | ||
| Don't you know the game? | ||
| And you're fucking equal, bro. | ||
| And that's when sparks fly. | ||
| I found that. | ||
| I'm telling you, I found that with my wife. | ||
| When that shit happens, that's it. | ||
| And this is what happened with Donald Trump. | ||
| This is what I truly believe happened. | ||
| I agree with you, by the way. | ||
| I'm joking around. | ||
| I know you do. | ||
| I love that you give me shit, because it makes it all coded, and people who are really listening will get it. | ||
| People are like, he's a supporter of Gavin McGinnis! | ||
| I'm a supporter of human beings! | ||
| They got triggered two hours ago. | ||
| I'm also a supporter of people that are radically left-wing that I don't agree with. | ||
| I think a lot of them just need hugs. | ||
| We need to be embraced by our community. | ||
| We dig our heels in, and we fight against anyone that we think opposes our safety, our security, and our comfort, and our ability to feel loved and to be happy. | ||
| Here's where you, in particular, can change the world. | ||
| Jesus Christ, Adam Curry. | ||
| I want to lay it on you, bro. | ||
| Yes, you can change the world. | ||
| Fucking pot, father. | ||
| And just by being... | ||
| By the way, shout out to Texas Silver Star Whiskey. | ||
| Yee-haw, motherfucker. | ||
| That's very good. | ||
| It's good shit. | ||
| It's very smooth. | ||
| What can I do to save the world? | ||
| I feel like I'm in a Watchmen movie. | ||
| Before all... | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Before all this BLM stuff came in, it was male, toxic masculinity... | ||
| And a lot of it, of course, Me Too, and a lot of it Absolutely Right, and there's a lot of that bullshit, but... | ||
| We let them cut our gonads off, and we need to stand up a little bit. | ||
| Not that women can't do what we need to do right now, which is take control of the fucking situation in more ways than one, but we need to help shepherd them. | ||
| I know a lot of badass women, so do you, who could fuck anything and anybody up, and they're great and they could be great leaders, but we need to shepherd the whole civilization of men and women, in particular men and men with their families, Particularly in ADOS. That's where we need to see this happen. | ||
| And that's why Trump is going to probably sweep the election with a male black vote who are sick of this shit. | ||
| And they see it and their gonads dropped. | ||
| They went, you know what? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| This is not a bad thing. | ||
| This is very, very good. | ||
| It's very good. | ||
| It's controversial, I'm sure, because people just don't like to hear that. | ||
| And I'm like you, man. | ||
| LGBT, LGBTQIA, PK +, I know the whole fucking acronym, forwards and backwards. | ||
| I grew up in Amsterdam. | ||
| Hello! | ||
| But I'm anti-war, you know? | ||
| I don't like spending like a motherfucker with the government. | ||
| I don't want a digital dollar, but I do want love and peace and everything that we can have. | ||
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This right-left stuff is bullshit. | |
| It doesn't have to be either-or, right? | ||
| I vote across the board. | ||
| I'm like, oh, that guy, her, you know, here in Austin, no matter who's up there, I'm against them. | ||
| You know, the kind of prejudice that I receive is so minimal. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| It's offensive if you discuss it. | ||
| But one prejudice that I've always encountered is that I'm a bro. | ||
| What the fuck is that? | ||
| But it's valid. | ||
| It's the thing. | ||
| If I was someone who wasn't a bro and I saw me, I'd be like, that guy's a bro. | ||
| It's not bad that they look at it that way. | ||
| In a sense, it's their job. | ||
| If you're going to mock the opposing idea, and the opposing idea is easily mockable, as am I, you're supposed to do it. | ||
| It's mean. | ||
| It doesn't feel mean. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's mean. | ||
| It doesn't feel mean. | ||
| I'm okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I just work out a lot. | ||
| I go through it all. | ||
| Whatever they're throwing at me, I burn it off. | ||
| It doesn't feel mean. | ||
| Because I was them. | ||
| I've been that person who was disenfranchised and lonely and disconnected and didn't have real close friends and didn't have a real community where I could say, I'm protected. | ||
| I'm connected. | ||
| I didn't have that. | ||
| So I understand all sorts of weird... | ||
| Unnecessary anger that people have. | ||
| But my perspective is we have to look at the world that we exist in currently as a series of pipelines to your consciousness. | ||
| And you have to limit the amount of entries because there's only a certain amount of bandwidth That you have to managing life. | ||
| If you have a thing you love, whether that thing is you are a songwriter and a singer, and you have these thoughts, these emotions that you wish you could figure out a way where other people could see the beauty in your perspective and to put it through a song that rhymes with the perfect notes on a guitar and just get into someone's consciousness and make them feel better. | ||
| You want to do that, right? | ||
| And this is what it is to be a person. | ||
| A lot of kids, 20 to 30, I just call them kids, are doing this now. | ||
| They're disconnecting, they're unhooking, they're getting flip phones, they got no cable subscription. | ||
| That's because they're poor, Adam Curry. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's income disparity. | ||
| They have to eat the rich. | ||
| I know several homeless guys, and they all have phones. | ||
| And they got data plans, and it's no problem. | ||
| You can be homeless in America with a smartphone. | ||
| In LA, that's the real problem. | ||
| You can camp. | ||
| It's the same here right now. | ||
| Minnesota doesn't have a whole lot of homeless people that make it in the winter. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's too hard out there. | ||
| You gotta get a job. | ||
| No, this is a dumb idea, the way Austin went about this. | ||
| Austin is not the worst. | ||
| L.A. is way dumber. | ||
| L.A. is preposterous. | ||
| It's so sad what has happened to all of California. | ||
| L.A. has Boulder, Colorado inside of it, but homeless people. | ||
| I mean, they don't even know what the numbers are. | ||
| They were 70,000 when the economy was booming. | ||
| When the economy was at its peak a couple of years ago, there were 70,000 homeless people in Los Angeles. | ||
| What's the current estimate? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I think we talked about this before, that the primary cause of homelessness is catastrophic loss of family. | ||
| There's that, but there's also drug addiction. | ||
| But that comes along with it. | ||
| Yeah, maybe a lot of people are abused. | ||
| There's a lot of factors. | ||
| But I think a severe perturbance of your development emotionally, psychologically, as a child contributes greatly to you being a homeless person. | ||
| Even drug users are a community. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So then they have their own community of drug use and scoring and whatever else. | ||
| But that's still a community. | ||
| I was under the bridge once, one of them underpasses that was a campground. | ||
| And I was looking at these dudes just hanging out, talking to each other. | ||
| I'm like, if you didn't have nothing, this might be a better place to be. | ||
| I want to take you to Community First Village here, just a little bit outside of Austin. | ||
| Are you trying to give me tuberculosis or some other sort of... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It'll blow your mind when you see this. | ||
| Typhus. | ||
| This is just small, tiny homes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is a non-profit that set it up, and they're getting people back on their feet in their own community. | ||
| There's no policing. | ||
| It's really magical what's happening there. | ||
| This was my reason why I thought that universal basic income is a good idea. | ||
| What I thought of is not... | ||
| Not an impossible... | ||
| You could live off of it, sort of, but it's a struggle. | ||
| Just enough so you can get by. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| Just say, listen, there's something wrong if bankers can make a trillion dollars a month. | ||
| Whatever the fuck the number is, there's something wrong. | ||
| How about we do this? | ||
| Let's figure out a way to organize taxes, So that people get enough so that no one in America has to starve to death. | ||
| If we were kind people who are truly patriotic, the number one goal would be no one who lives in America should starve to death. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| That's number one. | ||
| And then from there, we move on to other things. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's a good way to start. | ||
| And I'm here to tell you again, it's coming. | ||
| And I think the number will be $2,400 to $2,500 a month. | ||
| And anyone who has or is making less than $75,000 will get that. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| But if you make more than 50 grand a year, shouldn't you be on your own? | ||
| Like, listen, bro. | ||
| Help the system out. | ||
| Disconnect. | ||
| You want to try living in Austin on 50 grand a year? | ||
| I like tent living. | ||
| Yeah, well, okay. | ||
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You're in. | |
| You're in. | ||
| Well, in that case, you're in. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| But what I'm saying is we don't want people starving to death. | ||
| No. | ||
| We don't want people ever being in a situation where they don't know where they're going to get shelter or where we're going to get food. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| But is the situation where it's at because of unintended, uncontrollable circumstances like COVID where everybody's like, what the fuck? | ||
| Who? | ||
| Who? | ||
| Who would have told you you need to have a year's supply of money and food? | ||
| No. | ||
| Nobody would have told you that, right? | ||
| But that's where we are now. | ||
| It's our mentality. | ||
| So you can't blame those people. | ||
| It's our mentality, our mentality, which went away from true community helping each other. | ||
| Often that was situated around a church. | ||
| That's why we have nuns still, kind of with the hospital services, all kinds of services, barter services with the butcher if you only had wheat, etc. | ||
| And we've moved towards this man in the middle. | ||
| Hey, my fucking neighbor's an asshole. | ||
| We don't go over anymore and talk to the neighbor and say, bro, can we talk? | ||
| No. | ||
| Hello, 911, my neighbor's being an asshole. | ||
| Everything we have a goddamn middleman for. | ||
| That is our own fault. | ||
| We need to realize that we do need to communicate. | ||
| Peer-to-peer at some point to have, you can't have a community if you're only talking through lawyers and meetings. | ||
| But every now and then you get a neighbor like Rand Paul's neighbor, fucking tackles you and breaks your ribs. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| Yeah, that can happen. | ||
| What do you do with that guy? | ||
| You need to have someone you can call. | ||
| No, I'm not against that. | ||
| I'm not against that. | ||
| I'm just saying, but so that neighbor, he didn't call the police and say Rand Paul's a fucking right-wing racist or whatever. | ||
| He went over there and beat his ass. | ||
| And that's sad, but Rand Paul should have shot his ass. | ||
| Well, no, no, no. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes. | ||
| He attacked him from behind. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Took him down from behind and broke his ribs. | ||
| Regardless. | ||
| He should have shot him later. | ||
| You get my point. | ||
| Everything here, every COVID sneeze has a lawyer attached to it. | ||
| Everything's a fucking legal affair. | ||
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I understand. | |
| We're always dealing... | ||
| I'm sure in all deals you've done, there's a manager and lawyers and accountants, and the motherfucker goes down the line, and if you know, you know, if I could just sit with the guy for two minutes, like, bro... | ||
| Let's do this right now. | ||
| Entanglements. | ||
| Things get deeper. | ||
| It's the way of the world, man. | ||
| Deeper and deeper. | ||
| It's the way of the world. | ||
| That's what's so beautiful about life. | ||
| And this is a great time. | ||
| A great time to be a podcaster. | ||
| It's beautiful about life because all of these things that have happened, whether it's the internet or the electric car or... | ||
| Anything. | ||
| Air travel. | ||
| It's someone competing against other people that are also formulating similar ideas. | ||
| I mean, this is just what we've had. | ||
| And what we're experiencing today is a massive moment of chaos, which in my personal life Has always been followed by a great growth. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Always. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Definitely. | |
| Because in my personal life, and I believe in the microcosm, and I believe in the macrocosm, and I believe there's a situation where a thing that you feel... | ||
| If you can express it the right way, it resonates with people and it can help everybody. | ||
| I really do believe that. | ||
| I think it's part of one of the more fascinating things about the way we feel when other human beings express themselves. | ||
| Whether it's a speech. | ||
| To a graduating class, you know, whether it's a book that you wrote or a film that you made. | ||
| There's something that people do that makes other people feel a certain way. | ||
| And we recognize it when we're creating it. | ||
| What those things are, those moments of energy, we all come together in excitement. | ||
| We can maximize those. | ||
| We can have more of them. | ||
| Instead of being in conflict over fucking whether or not Ellen DeGeneres is a bitch. | ||
| Let's figure out a way to be... | ||
| Just stop... | ||
| Just be nice. | ||
| There's better feelings for yourself and for the community and for all around you by just putting your energy into positive things. | ||
| Putting your energy into things that are beneficial. | ||
| It's easy to attack. | ||
| It's easy. | ||
| You're global, which makes it so great. | ||
| This is happening in every country around the world. | ||
| Black Lives Matter, racial strife, racial division, very different story than us. | ||
| It's in the UK, it's in the Netherlands. | ||
| Everybody has some story, but it's all different. | ||
| They should not have the same guilt, maybe, that we should have, but it's being used as a wedge to divide people. | ||
| And I think that we have enough platforms and enough reach to let people know that figure it out, go look around, but you're definitely being manipulated and the whole idea is not to have that happen, what you just said. | ||
| And we have the means. | ||
| We don't need to go through every mainstream Silicon Valley company to communicate with each other. | ||
| So that is there for us at the taking. | ||
| We just have to do it. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| We have all this power. | ||
| We're just not using it yet. | ||
| But there's always conflict between human beings. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| And there always will be, because there's desirable mating outcomes. | ||
| Yell all you want at each other online. | ||
| Yell all you want. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I hope we find places, and there are many already, for people to go yell without anyone intervening or taking down. | ||
| Just let them yell, let them yell, let them yell, let them yell. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| Let it all out. | ||
| Taking someone away is fucking stupid. | ||
| It's short-sighted and stupid for short-term capital gain. | ||
| This is what I'm talking about in terms of censoring people online. | ||
| I think it actually has unintended consequences of bolstering up the other side. | ||
| Of course it does. | ||
| Because it makes them look like the people on the right now look at the people on the left as being unreasonable, unwilling to talk. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And they've banned this person from Facebook and YouTube. | ||
| So, now I get to go back to my America Online analogy, because it's inevitable. | ||
| This is what always happens. | ||
| America Online was a closed system, and the internet was out here. | ||
| And everyone on AOL, I'm sure you were on there, like, oh, cool chat rooms. | ||
| Not me, bro. | ||
| Yeah, you were looking up conspiracy theories. | ||
| Shut up, Rogan. | ||
| I know what you were doing. | ||
| Meanwhile, we're on the free internet going alt.conspiracy.alienprobe in my anus. | ||
| And I got a picture of it and all this. | ||
| And so we're having a good time. | ||
| And kids on the AOL went, hey, AOL, we want to access the internet, man. | ||
| We want the fucking internet because that's where the danger is. | ||
| That's what the cool stuff is. | ||
| And they finally opened up a little portal. | ||
| Okay, here's your browser. | ||
| And everybody was gone. | ||
| And AOL became a dial-up access service. | ||
| Do you remember this? | ||
| Yes, man! | ||
| I was a part of this shit. | ||
| Ready for this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You've got mail! | ||
| Pretty good, right? | ||
| Goodbye. | ||
| Goodbye. | ||
| Solid. | ||
| It's always a dude telling you you've got mail. | ||
| That's your boss. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's not a Chinese lady. | ||
| That's where it's always going to be at, my friend. | ||
| It's always going to be the dangerous outside. | ||
| That's where I like to live and thrive. | ||
| Well, there's always going to be the tip of progress, and everything else underneath it is going to be... | ||
| But the question is, who's right when you see these people in Portland that are fucking burning trash in the lobby of the mayor's apartment complex? | ||
| Are they right when they're holding up a fucking big sheet that says, resign? | ||
| Are they right? | ||
| I don't mind about this big sheet with resign. | ||
| You can't be making fire. | ||
| It's not okay. | ||
| It's not okay. | ||
| You can kill all those people. | ||
| No, you can't kill anybody. | ||
| If they threw that fire in and they didn't know that the floor was plastic and the plastic took off instantly and burned the whole... | ||
| And everybody in this... | ||
| I think there's like 1,200 units or something. | ||
| The good news is this shit is starting to end because Joe Biden campaign realized that this was not good for their numbers, and so now they're out saying, nah, you should stop rioting, stop rioting. | ||
| It's a real danger. | ||
| We have a problem. | ||
| I think you know it inherently, but no federal troops can go into Portland or any other place without it being requested. | ||
| It's very important in our structure. | ||
| We don't have a Stasi system so you can come in and fucking kick everyone's ass. | ||
| You have to get requests. | ||
| Yeah, someone's going, hey, I need your help. | ||
| Come on in, feds. | ||
| That's what it's for. | ||
| Federal government is very unimportant, really, in the overall scheme. | ||
| It's supposed to be. | ||
| But we, good people of America, have let it come pretty far with going back to what it's supposed to be. | ||
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Can we pause on this? | |
| I gotta pee so bad. | ||
| Can we hold this, Jamie? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You need to pee? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| First ever podcast from Austin. | ||
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We're back. | |
| And we're back! | ||
| That was wonderful. | ||
| I'm here because of you. | ||
| I said that at the beginning, but it is true. | ||
| Now, I want to know about your other plans. | ||
| So, Tina, the keeper, my wife and I, we've been catching up on a little Joe Rogan history. | ||
| We've been watching your stand-ups during the shutdown. | ||
| You, my friend, are one funny motherfucker. | ||
| And you do physical shit, and you're so on, and it's just... | ||
| Where are you going to use this creative energy, this side of you... | ||
| In the world, I mean, what's the plan? | ||
| Where does this go? | ||
| What do you do as a comic? | ||
| Because I know you're a podcaster, and obviously you're changing the world. | ||
| But I think I know that your core passion is that. | ||
| I love stand-up, but I think it's really important to just be a person. | ||
| I did one comedy date during the pandemic. | ||
| I did the Houston Improv. | ||
| I did it with my friend Brian Moses, and I did it with my friend Tony Hinchcliffe. | ||
| We had a great fucking time. | ||
| I met Willie D from the Ghetto Boys. | ||
| Dan Crenshaw came down. | ||
| We had a good time. | ||
| But at the end of the day, I was like, damn, I don't want to catch it and give it to somebody I care about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because you're a fucking human. | ||
| If I knew that I couldn't ever give it to somebody, I could only get it myself. | ||
| I'd have a different perspective. | ||
| I think you've already adjusted your risk profile. | ||
| I mean, yesterday when I was here, I got the antibody test and everything. | ||
| It still hurts. | ||
| Does it? | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Well, I use this finger a lot, apparently. | ||
| It's a trigger finger. | ||
| I use it for mouse clicks. | ||
| I'm like, oh, fucking little thing there. | ||
| But right away, without even waiting for the results, you're like, nah, bro, you don't have it. | ||
| You're good. | ||
| Which is appropriate. | ||
| We've always taken, this is the view of people, we've always taken, if you look healthy and you feel healthy, you're probably healthy. | ||
| It's crazy to think it that way, isn't it? | ||
| Instead, now we're like, you might have it! | ||
| It's understandable because when it did emerge on North America, we thought it was going to be like the plague. | ||
| We thought it was going to be like the Spanish flu. | ||
| We were shown models and everything. | ||
| And they might have been right and they might have been wrong. | ||
| Fortunately, they were wrong. | ||
| But this idea that it's a conspiracy, I'm not buying it, man. | ||
| But hold on. | ||
| All of it, I think it's more than anything. | ||
| There are people that take advantage of moments of things that happen. | ||
| But there's also, like, people just panic and make good moves and bad moves. | ||
| And they don't necessarily have to make sense in retrospect. | ||
| It wasn't the right call in terms of, like, what we thought, like... | ||
| COVID-19 was going to be for this country, but they thought it was going to be way worse. | ||
| And if they were wrong and it was way worse, it would have been horrific. | ||
| So what is the mechanism where the people in every country can communicate this back in a manner to the people who we've chosen to represent us? | ||
| That's not offensive. | ||
| Well, to take it into account that this is how we feel and we need some change. | ||
| There were protests in Trafalgar Square, the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin, and in Switzerland, Zurich, and they were completely peaceful. | ||
| Nobody with masks just saying, hey, we want out. | ||
| Now, we have here other problems. | ||
| Going out is now an issue because of rioting and protesting. | ||
| But in general, people around the world are starting to say, we don't like this, and they're trying to communicate it. | ||
| We are the only fuckers who have the guns to back it up. | ||
| That's what's interesting right now. | ||
| Because that's also what they're for. | ||
| That's also what the Second Amendment is about, is to, in my mind, to protect the First Amendment, but also like, hey, all the people here don't want this, and we're kind of willing to back it up, so here we are with our stuff. | ||
| Yeah, it's such a strange perspective. | ||
| It's medieval, Joe, but here we are. | ||
| We haven't learned our history. | ||
| We haven't looked at it properly. | ||
| Did you see the video of what happened in Portland when that guy got murdered? | ||
| Yeah, I did. | ||
| Yeah, of course, of course. | ||
| I mean, it's like basic tribal war. | ||
| One guy sprays mace, the other guy shoots a gun. | ||
| My buddy Mo, he says, this is a civil war between white people. | ||
| We're stepping the fuck back. | ||
| And he's right, man. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| But now more than ever, we need to get together with our ADOS brothers and sisters and say, stop. | ||
| This is bullshit. | ||
| This is not the real problem here. | ||
| Stop it now. | ||
| Well, anytime you have an open group that anyone can join, you're going to get people that do the dumbest shit to get to the front of the line and the top of the heap. | ||
| Yeah, but we... | ||
| Doesn't necessarily jive with the ideas of the rest of the organization. | ||
| Our children have been over-socialized. | ||
| They've been made to be afraid of everything they say. | ||
| Can't make a joke about Christians. | ||
| Can't make a joke about Jews. | ||
| Can't make a joke about gay, lesbian, transgender. | ||
| Can't make a joke about... | ||
| Can't even slip up on one little thing. | ||
| Forget race. | ||
| Are you doing the work, Joe Rogan? | ||
| You've got to read the book. | ||
| Which book? | ||
| That's White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo, the biggest perpetrator of this crap I've ever heard of. | ||
| I didn't read that, but I read Matt Taibbi's response. | ||
| Spot on. | ||
| Taibbi is a legend. | ||
| I pay for his content. | ||
| I'll pay him $40 a month. | ||
| I'll pay him $400 a month. | ||
| That guy is doing the work. | ||
| I legitimately feel he's one of the most important journalists. | ||
| The only guy who reported on the Wall Street 2008 and he had to go and learn how all this intricate shit worked. | ||
| Fucking great. | ||
| He's a real representative of his honest opinions. | ||
| And that's rare. | ||
| A journalist. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| A journalist. | ||
| We've gotten hooked into these systems, whether it's right or left or whatever it is, where your vested interest is in agreeing with whatever the people on your side think and say. | ||
| It's just real dangerous for people. | ||
| It's not how we operate best. | ||
| Well, there's another problem. | ||
| And that is what we all used to see was the typical local news. | ||
| You see your, you know, Today Show on NBC, they break in with the local weather. | ||
| And the message, what we saw in Wisconsin is we saw a struggle. | ||
| We saw cops walking behind a guy. | ||
| We saw the guy trying to get into his car, the cop pulling him back, shooting. | ||
| We saw that. | ||
| What is distilled down to the Today Show local level is unarmed black man shot by cops while getting into a car. | ||
| I don't care what happened, you can't present that as the facts that we've seen. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| So either don't do it, Or show it, or maybe just wait until we have some information. | ||
| Because that is setting a biased message. | ||
| And by the way, Fox News is just as complicit on all sides of this. | ||
| Who the fuck knows who's running that show? | ||
| It should be something along the lines of police shoot man. | ||
| Yeah, thank you. | ||
| That would be a good starter. | ||
| Yeah, but is it that we have this expectation for, whether it's Reuters or CNN or whatever, for them to be... | ||
| Authoritative. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| This is what happens. | ||
| Turns out, no. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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The problem... | |
| Turns out, no. | ||
| There's money involved. | ||
| And if they can say, police shoot black man, unarmed black man, It's worth more money. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's a real... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that a consideration, do you think, when they write headlines? | ||
| Yes, completely. | ||
| I just read the other day, Texas mandates vaccines for all school children. | ||
| I'm like, all right, let me take a look. | ||
| Blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Of course, Texas has conscientious objections. | ||
| Like, give me a fucking break. | ||
| Is that like naturopathicnews.com? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| That was like, you know, mainstream. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, mainstream. | ||
| Like, you know, an affiliate of Reuters or whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Like, I know that everybody thinks they're fighting a good fight. | ||
| I really do believe that. | ||
| Of course we do. | ||
| That's what makes us so great. | ||
| It's the thing about people. | ||
| It's so easy for us to accept one ideology versus another. | ||
| Well, we just have to remember one thing. | ||
| This is the thing that's most shocking. | ||
| There is... | ||
| It's okay to disagree. | ||
| It's okay to be angry with each other. | ||
| Were you just looking at Jamie's ass? | ||
| He was going into the TriCaster. | ||
| I was panicking. | ||
| Kind of looked like you were... | ||
| I had to make sure his back's okay. | ||
| Jamie broke his ass. | ||
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Really? | |
| And I feel responsible. | ||
| Really, really broke his ass? | ||
| Yeah, we had those hoverboards. | ||
| I almost broke my ass, too. | ||
| And Jamie was filming it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the hoverboard went left and he went right. | ||
| And he landed on his... | ||
| Jamie? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I have to only assume that's what caused it, but the actual injury didn't come for like 10 months after that. | ||
| It was a fracture, an actual broken ass? | ||
| I didn't get an x-ray, but there was a bone that was not where it was supposed to be that caused a litany of problems up and down the side of my body. | ||
| A bone that wasn't where it was supposed to be? | ||
| Yeah, some little bone in the part of your hip. | ||
| Did it break off? | ||
| No, it was adjusted in a weird spot. | ||
| If I feel it now, it doesn't feel like it used to. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That's the craziest thing about chiropractic shit, right? | ||
| Even though it has a wacky beginning, what if the dude was accidentally right? | ||
| Right now I have weird, crazy pops in my neck that hurt sometimes, but I don't know if a chiropractor could fix it. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| If you hear the story of... | ||
| What was the woman that wrote Chiropractors Are Bullshit? | ||
| There's a guy who is a producer of my show, and he's like, I really want you to give this to Joe. | ||
| He's all about chiropractic, and apparently you're against that. | ||
| You don't believe in it or whatever. | ||
| And he's really like, dude, I just wanted Joe to see it. | ||
| And this is one guy he could talk to. | ||
| And it's very interesting because I don't know anything about the controversy, whatever. | ||
| It's just very interesting. | ||
| Who wrote it, Jamie? | ||
| Yeah, Yvette. | ||
| I just didn't want to fuck up her last name. | ||
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I don't want to say that either. | |
| D'Entremont. | ||
| She was a guest on the podcast, and she researched chiropractic medicine. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I didn't know this. | ||
| Created by a dude who was a magnetic healer, and he was killed by his son, ran him over with a car, took over the business, and started promoting the idea that adjusting people's backs to fix fucking leukemia and shit. | ||
| Oh, I don't know about all that. | ||
| Blindness. | ||
| You just pop people's back. | ||
| It was lunacy. | ||
| But I think, what if maybe they were on to something accidentally? | ||
| Like, it is possible. | ||
| Well, that's like my applied kinesiology, which you don't believe in. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Applied kinesiology. | ||
| And I've been going to this. | ||
| You sure I don't believe in it? | ||
| Because we talked about it after the show last time. | ||
| I might have changed my mind. | ||
| Okay, well. | ||
| And by the way, when you called two days after the show, that was a thrill. | ||
| I'm like, holy shit, Joe fucking Rogan just called me. | ||
| You texted me. | ||
| No, you called me. | ||
| You called me. | ||
| That was really... | ||
| It bothers me that it's a thrill. | ||
| No, that was like... | ||
| No, because I remember I really connected with you. | ||
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It was cool. | |
| We did, we did. | ||
| We had a good connection. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| And I really do appreciate you as being your patient zero. | ||
| You really are. | ||
| You're the guy who started this whole thing. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| There's no one else who deserves the credit. | ||
| It's you. | ||
| And you're also an interesting guy because you've always had an analytical view of anything. | ||
| Whatever problems there are, technological, political, you look at it. | ||
| And when I listen to your podcast, I'm like, this guy's thinking. | ||
| About what's going on here. | ||
| Is this happening? | ||
| Is that happening? | ||
| You're not committed to any one cleanly grooved path. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like you, I have a lot of people who I'm connected to. | ||
| Particularly because of the show, you are connected to some of the most amazing minds that are out there. | ||
| And you suck that up. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| You suck it up. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| You memorize stuff. | ||
| I have the same thing. | ||
| You memorize stuff like, oh, okay, that's interesting. | ||
| And you can weigh that. | ||
| But ultimately, I don't think either of us really come from any, like, I really want it to be like this or that. | ||
| No, it's just pure luck. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Pure luck in what the fuck is this? | ||
| But this is a crazy, crazy time. | ||
| We are so connected. | ||
| There's so many impulses, so many signals, so much happening. | ||
| Mayor of Portland, get out of that fucking apartment building. | ||
| They know where you're sleeping, bro. | ||
| There's a thousand other people sleeping in that building. | ||
| Get out of there. | ||
| There's a good chance all of that ends November 4th. | ||
| There's a good chance a lot of things end November 4th. | ||
| It's September. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They're going to light that guy's place on fire. | ||
| But doesn't that kind of show that it's out of control? | ||
| Something has to happen. | ||
| What if the reason why all this shit is going on up there? | ||
| It's just a little piece of what's going on in the world, Joe. | ||
| Everyone's depressed. | ||
| It's like a big old Twilight movie. | ||
| It's getting rained on and shit. | ||
| My buddy, he used to be my assistant. | ||
| Back at MTV, it was a VJ coordinator, Ken. | ||
| And he took this all, and I love Ken to death, he took it hook, line, and sinker. | ||
| And he and his husband haven't seen another human being for four or five months. | ||
| Nothing came in, nothing came out. | ||
| All he knows is that Trump has sent in goons to go and create a problem in downtown Portland. | ||
| There's a lack of real information for a lot of people. | ||
| There's a lack of information. | ||
| And I'm not saying one way or the other, but all I know, I'm seeing President Trump doing some very interesting shit. | ||
| And he's standing in the middle of things I've thought have been a problem for a long time. | ||
| The media for sure, he calls it fake news. | ||
| The pharmaceutical industry, a lot of bullshit. | ||
| He's sitting right there going, this is bullshit. | ||
| And while he's still making a lot of interesting things happen that I don't think is good, he's also removed the pharmacy benefit managers so actually the prices will actually come down. | ||
| He's deregulated insurance so you can do it across state lines. | ||
| These are all things that I think are very, very good. | ||
| He's standing in the middle of the military industrial complex saying it's the fucking military industrial complex. | ||
| They want war. | ||
| I'm here to keep that shit down. | ||
| We'll sell our stuff. | ||
| Those things I like a lot. | ||
| The problem is his persona, which is what... | ||
| You know these people. | ||
| You've been around very successful people. | ||
| A lot of them are illiterate. | ||
| Can't even write a fucking email. | ||
| But they get incredibly wealthy and successful because they have... | ||
| They like to use you are. | ||
| Excuse me? | ||
| You are instead of you're. | ||
| That's an issue. | ||
| With someone really smart, they'll send you an email that says you are instead of why you are or why are you. | ||
| Or there with E-I. So these people, the elites of the world, which is really the problem. | ||
| I don't know if they're illiterate. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They will tolerate a Donald Trump at their party because he's rich and he's important to them. | ||
| But when it really comes down to it, he's not part of us. | ||
| So that's the problem. | ||
| You've seen this. | ||
| Right, but isn't that just human nature? | ||
| Yes, I'm not saying it's not, but let's just recognize it and move on. | ||
| Let's just recognize it. | ||
| How do we do that, Adam Curry? | ||
| By doing this podcast, Joe Rogan. | ||
| We are the world. | ||
| We are the children. | ||
| We're going to make that shit happen. | ||
| We can help. | ||
| Yeah, I think just by being men, giving a male perspective, it doesn't matter which guest you bring yourself, and that's important. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| Why are people attracted to you? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Besides you being very handsome. | ||
| Why? | ||
| So I'm wearing my wife's shirt. | ||
| Yeah, whatever. | ||
| I stole this from her. | ||
| You've got a beautiful family, man. | ||
| She's got a... | ||
| She had this elbow shirt on. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| That's mine, bitch. | ||
| I didn't say bitch. | ||
| If I did, she would. | ||
| No, I'm joking. | ||
| Of course she would. | ||
| Dude, I think we're in a weird stage as human beings. | ||
| I really believe this. | ||
| That we have this battles going on between people and all sorts of ideologies and perspectives. | ||
| And some of them are real valid, right? | ||
| Like police shooting people they shouldn't shoot. | ||
| Real valid. | ||
| And then you see videos of them not shooting white people. | ||
| Maybe they should have shot. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's like, you see those things, like, hey, what the fuck is going on? | ||
| Especially if that's all you see. | ||
| If you're a young black man, you see, all you see is videos of cops shooting black guys and not shooting white guys. | ||
| If someone just shows you three or four of those in a row, and you have a job and a family, and you don't have time to be resurged and shit, How do you know if that's representative of the whole world or not? | ||
| Even if it isn't representative, isn't it offensive as a singular event in the history of people where someone gets shot just because of what they look like, right? | ||
| We all agree with that. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| More than anything, is how it divides us and how we look at each other. | ||
| We're supposed to look at each other as the same. | ||
| We're supposed to look at each other as just people. | ||
| And anything that takes us off that line, whether it's male, female, gay, straight, black, white, privileged, non-privileged, we've got to let that go. | ||
| Everybody has to stop themselves and think about how you're thinking. | ||
| What is making you respond? | ||
| What is it about you or your personal history that is making you respond in a very responsive, reactive, sometimes violent manner? | ||
| It doesn't matter who you are. | ||
| And we all have abuse, we have situations, we have pain, and this is being triggered every single day by very simple things that we can easily be triggered about because it's accepted. | ||
| But I have all kinds of issues that you can say something to me and it'll trigger me. | ||
| I'm sure you have them too. | ||
| And only after you've been around for a while, like now we're half a century, we've seen some shit go down, do you realize, oh man, we should let these other people, these younger people know that you've got to look at yourself. | ||
| Why are you being triggered like this? | ||
| Well, we also have to realize that we're in a biological mosh pit. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| It's a mosh pit. | ||
| It's not just in terms of our genes, but it's also our ideas. | ||
| There's all this battling going on. | ||
| I remember I watched this documentary on the Congo once. | ||
| And they realized, it was a BBC documentary, it was amazing. | ||
| And they realized that certain spiders had formed packs. | ||
| Have you ever seen that? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Oh my god, dude. | ||
| Like a fucking deer would run into this spider web and be like, what's this? | ||
| We can learn so much from looking at our environment around us. | ||
| They figured out how to work together. | ||
| How to work together, yeah. | ||
| And work in packs. | ||
| And I remember thinking that, and I'm like, this is all madness. | ||
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It's all a battle for the top of the heap. | |
| I think it's important to restate that we're all in our individual webs. | ||
| We're in the Instagram web and the Twitter web. | ||
| There are other places where we spiders can come together with groups of other spiders and create our own web that grows. | ||
| And sure, it may be parlor. | ||
| Maybe parlor is bullshit. | ||
| Maybe mastodon is bullshit. | ||
| But collectively, it all means... | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| This is a minor version of it. | ||
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| This is a BBC Congo one where it's like a real musty-looking, cobwebby-looking web. | ||
| And they all work together and they jack birds and shit. | ||
| Oh yeah, totally. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So we can do that too. | ||
| And what is the internet? | ||
| It is a web. | ||
| It is a web of servers and computers and phones and watches. | ||
| And we can control a lot of it ourselves. | ||
| We can. | ||
| But this is my thought, Adam Curry. | ||
| When I look at something like that, I'm like, that's just what goes down if you let it. | ||
| If you let groups overcome, they can get together. | ||
| Well, I see that differently. | ||
| Oh no, I see us as humanity being able to build a web collectively, and in that we catch all the fuckers that we're done with, who've kept us apart. | ||
| Spiders don't give a fuck who they catch! | ||
| They catch birds, bro! | ||
| Tweety birds! | ||
| Well maybe that, isn't that socialism? | ||
| They all catch one bird and they eat it? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think they eat each other eventually. | ||
| Like female black widows, they kill the male. | ||
| There's many ways to connect and organize through the internet. | ||
| It doesn't have to be stupid things that are apps and bullshit. | ||
| It just doesn't have to be that way. | ||
| And eventually someone's going to realize it and it'll become cool and become the internet of the internet. | ||
| And then people will want to go there. | ||
| That's how it works. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| All I'm thinking is that... | ||
| I need a little bit more there, Joe. | ||
| That is some good stuff. | ||
| It is, right? | ||
| There's a way that we can look at all this in terms of like... | ||
| Minimizing conflict as a priority. | ||
| And I don't think it's necessarily a priority. | ||
| Minimizing conflict as a priority. | ||
| We don't have to hurt each other. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| And there's something that we have to make an acknowledgement that we're all the same. | ||
| That we're on the same team. | ||
| And I don't think people feel like we are right now. | ||
| I think this is how the right feels when you ban people. | ||
| Even if they say ridiculous shit. | ||
| If it's ridiculous to you. | ||
| And I get it. | ||
| You feel it's ridiculous? | ||
| Good. | ||
| Why do you want to protect other people from something that you immediately recognize as ridiculous? | ||
| And that's the moment when you need to ask, why am I responding to this? | ||
| Why do I feel the need to say this? | ||
| It is that, but it's also the deep concern that the people that are doing this are going to affect people. | ||
| And change their perspective and make people believe something that's not true and it'll change the course of history or whatever. | ||
| Okay, well that's just fucking ridiculous. | ||
| You gotta stop that shit. | ||
| It's not necessarily wrong though, right? | ||
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No! | |
| Because it did work with Hitler. | ||
| No! | ||
| But the real answer is not stop that person. | ||
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No, of course not. | |
| The real answer has come up with a much better rebuttal. | ||
| A better rebuttal, you lazy fucks! | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Convince me with whatever you got. | ||
| And there's a lot of that going on. | ||
| But when we let ourselves be tied to some fucking digital overlords, we'll always be disappointed. | ||
| Which brings us back to things that were deleted from Facebook and YouTube when it comes to this pandemic. | ||
| We don't need to go through that. | ||
| There's many different systems out there. | ||
| You shouldn't be able to do that so easily. | ||
| It should be somehow or another voted upon. | ||
| Well, how about... | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| How about just we have a place that we go that everyone just kind of pays for their little bit, their little group, and this exists. | ||
| It's been around for 15 years. | ||
| People will come. | ||
| They're going to get tired of this shit. | ||
| If all the opposition voices are gone, what are you going to do? | ||
| Blaze TV tomorrow. | ||
| Adam Curry comes out as communist. | ||
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I know. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
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No! | |
| I'm right. | ||
| I'm right about this. | ||
| I can see the writing on the wall. | ||
| I think you have a very strong opinion about something where you might be correct. | ||
| I'm just jumping ahead. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You might be correct. | ||
| I might be wrong. | ||
| I might be full of shit. | ||
| You have a good point, though. | ||
| I'm jumping ahead. | ||
| I can see where it has to go. | ||
| Jack Dorsey's even talking about decentralizing and perhaps federating different social networks. | ||
| He understands... | ||
| People need to cut that dude some slack, too. | ||
| Jack Dorsey is, like, we're so tribal. | ||
| God damn, we're so tribal. | ||
| He is very conflicted because he has to deal with his income, his shareholders, his board members. | ||
| He can't have conflict beyond certain realms, which are determined by a certain group of ideas that just run certain shit. | ||
| He was one of the... | ||
| It's all advertising. | ||
| We're fucking a-holes. | ||
| You just pave a little bit of... | ||
| I'd pay for your show. | ||
| I'd pay for your show. | ||
| I'm going to pay for your show. | ||
| I'm going to pay for your show. | ||
| Because I like your show. | ||
| It's worth it to me. | ||
| The only thing is, if you had asked me how much, I would have paid you much more than it's actually going to cost me at Spotify. | ||
| But that's up to you, my brother. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| When I see someone like, whether it's Jack Dorsey or even Zuckerberg, anybody's put into a position that no human being has been responsible for. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| They've never been responsible for media empires that connect uncounted people. | ||
| And shame on us for expecting anything interesting or innovative out of that whole group, including the Congress. | ||
| Shame on us. | ||
| We created this shit. | ||
| We knew what's going on. | ||
| We dictate what's going on, but no. | ||
| We're just following along. | ||
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Oh, whatever. | |
| Fuck it. | ||
| We have so much power. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| How many people are on Facebook? | ||
| I'm not on Facebook anymore. | ||
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A billion, I think. | |
| A billion! | ||
| A couple billion, I think. | ||
| Jesus, Jamie! | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| A billion. | ||
| With a B. Okay, seems normal. | ||
| Well, give that dude who looks like an alien all the money then. | ||
| Seriously. | ||
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Woo! | |
| No, it's really... | ||
| Yeah, it's actually double that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a lot of cash, kids. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Respect. | ||
| Incredible amount of money. | ||
| Monthly active users is 2.6 billion. | ||
| Joe, just... | ||
| 2.6 billion? | ||
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A month. | |
| 1.73 a day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, my God! | ||
| But if you just zoom out... | ||
| Oh, my God! | ||
| Put that back up? | ||
| Oh, my God! | ||
| Oh, my God! | ||
| That's insane! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I know. | ||
| That's close to, what, a third of the humans? | ||
| So, you know... | ||
| Those are not real people, though. | ||
| Take away Nordic folk. | ||
| Facebook has created a beautiful, beautiful advertising machine. | ||
| And I give... | ||
| Oh, a thousand percent credit to Zuckerberg, his vision, and whoever else has worked with him. | ||
| It is such a beautiful mechanism for micro-targeting. | ||
| He has delivered on a lot of the promise that we were all looking at. | ||
| Like, you'll be able to get there. | ||
| And I've been complicit in that. | ||
| The right ad to the right person, just the right moment, just when he's scratching his nuts, wants to buy the car. | ||
| We'll know it all. | ||
| We're going to give it to you. | ||
| And he has delivered largely on that promise. | ||
| Unfortunately, with age and wisdom, I've come to realize that was a very bad thing to want. | ||
| It's a very fucking bad thing to want. | ||
| Is the real concern that that gets connected to AI? Of course. | ||
| It's already happening. | ||
| And AI is being skewed in so many interesting ways. | ||
| For a while, if you typed in American inventor, you would get all black inventors. | ||
| Black colored skin. | ||
| I don't know if they were all ADOS or not. | ||
| So that's an overcompensation of the algorithm for some reason. | ||
| So these things are happening. | ||
| I believe, like you, all people are good. | ||
| They want to do good. | ||
| They're convinced that they have to do this. | ||
| You have to say, I'm a racist to be good. | ||
| Please think about what you're doing. | ||
| Could you imagine if hell is reaching some connection between virtual reality and artificial intelligence where they trick you into living in a world with no pain? | ||
| I can completely envision that. | ||
| They trick you into living in a world with no conflict, no advancement, no improvement. | ||
| What we are, we are right now for all of eternity, but that's actually hell. | ||
| Are you there? | ||
| A slow trickle. | ||
| Are you there, Joe? | ||
| Right now, no. | ||
| I'm feeling great. | ||
| But are you going to go there? | ||
| No! | ||
| Dude, we can do better. | ||
| But the idea that it's a slow trickle where there's no risk ever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you have to take risks. | ||
| I think it's a big factor in being a human. | ||
| I think you have to do it. | ||
| This is why many, many very successful people, whether they're business or academics, certainly royalty, they all develop a super specialty. | ||
| Some study algebra, others will study economics, and they become very successful because they need that challenge. | ||
| As all human beings, we need a real challenge in our life to be our full self. | ||
| I think we do too. | ||
| I think we need to challenge and also all other aspects of our life in terms of what we believe in. | ||
| I think the problem is that if you believe one thing and I believe an opposing thing, we have to be violently opposed to each other. | ||
| I think the problem is that people become too married to their ideas. | ||
| And if we could just avoid that, if we could just talk to people... | ||
| Look at this example. | ||
| You and I are not on the same page on a lot of things. | ||
| What are we not on the same page of? | ||
| I think I'm much more... | ||
| We joke around conspiracy theory, whatever, but I'm pretty serious about a lot of things I said. | ||
| But you respect me for what I'm saying, and even if you haven't figured it out or don't like it or whatever, it doesn't matter. | ||
| You're just like, okay. | ||
| You heard it. | ||
| You registered it. | ||
| I 100% don't disagree with you. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| But all my thoughts on conspiracies are from ignorance. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So when you say something, I'm like, I'm just as ignorant. | ||
| I'm just as ignorant. | ||
| That's the beauty of it. | ||
| But I'm not married to it. | ||
| But in the past, when I was younger, I would have been. | ||
| I would have been married to some dumb idea. | ||
| So just as you can get really married to a dumb idea, you can get married to fuck your dumb ideas. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes, yes. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Let's stop calling it something and labeling someone a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| You're lighting things on fire and throwing them into the lobby of an apartment complex filled with people. | ||
| This is a terrible, ineffective message. | ||
| It's not how we want people to behave. | ||
| When it's not punished, it's a very bad message. | ||
| Well, it's also a terrible call for escalation. | ||
| Because if you kill people with fire, they're going to come back with guns and they're going to kill you. | ||
| Are we trying to start a war? | ||
| This is bananas. | ||
| And if you feel like you haven't been represented, there's other ways to get the message out. | ||
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As frustrating as it may seem, you should like buildings on fire. | |
| The Black Block and Antifa is completely separate from Black Lives Matter protests. | ||
| And I don't agree with pulling down statues without debate or discussion. | ||
| But the Black Block, which is really... | ||
| Whenever you see the helmet, the backpack, the black outfit, that's probably not your average run-of-the-mill protester. | ||
| Are we in an Avengers movie? | ||
| Possibly, in a way... | ||
| To think that it's not possible is ridiculous. | ||
| There are elements who are... | ||
| And I think it's kind of now being admitted everywhere. | ||
| Even Joe Biden is now, because it's bad for him in the polling, is coming out and saying, okay, these are agitators. | ||
| Yeah, fuck, yeah, they are. | ||
| And this is being downplayed, not being shown to you, because you need that. | ||
| And, by the way, when you have... | ||
| In race riots, you have different levels. | ||
| So you have the protesters. | ||
| Protesters, fine. | ||
| Then you get the agitators and the agitators start to break shit. | ||
| Then you get the guys with the umbrellas and they start to break windows showing you where the third wave, which is truly the poor, poor, poorest of society, they come in to go grab stuff. | ||
| And why do they grab stuff? | ||
| Because they've seen everybody is grabbing something for themselves. | ||
| They've seen it all, the politicians, they're not stupid, they've seen the politicians, they've seen Hollywood, they've seen everybody steal, steal, steal. | ||
| The agitators, the people with the hammers and the umbrellas, they say, there you go, these people go in, they get what they feel is theirs, that's part of their American dream at this point. | ||
| So we have to recognize what's happening and then take it away from just black or white racial issues. | ||
| This is people fucking with us, fucking with us because of our history, and it's triggering a lot of deep emotional shit. | ||
| And it's really evil to exploit that. | ||
| And I think we need to go to therapy. | ||
| We need to go to therapy as a country. | ||
| Do you think this is like a plan to fuck with us? | ||
| I believe so, yeah. | ||
| By who? | ||
| Well, it could be China. | ||
| It could be just globalists. | ||
| It could be Russia. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| We do the same to other countries. | ||
| We're exporting. | ||
| How many times have we said, we're bringing democracy to you, Middle East? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| I did a Joe Biden. | ||
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Look! | |
| Here's the deal. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| You lying two-faced pony soldier. | ||
| That's a great phrase, though. | ||
| What, come on, man? | ||
| Two-faced pony soldier. | ||
| I've never heard it before. | ||
| The guy's... | ||
| He's a savage. | ||
| You got that old fucking pop the stitch when he said that? | ||
| No, he is not a savage. | ||
| That guy is a problem. | ||
| It's really interesting. | ||
| It's like if the world was a simulation, this would be a fantastic moment where you had to decide how preposterous are you going to let it get? | ||
| We're sitting around there. | ||
| We've got the game under control. | ||
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Hey, Joe, Joe, Joe, I've got to do this dude against this dude. | |
| Imagine if you were in charge of a sleep simulation, like a dream simulation, and you were on the outside. | ||
| You, Adam Curry, fucking kitchen gloves, the whole deal. | ||
| Working all the cords, and you gotta like, okay, we gotta bring this guy out. | ||
| Like, let's do this. | ||
| Let's just see what happens. | ||
| Let's let things get more and more preposterous to the point where he's willing to come out of this programming and be awake again. | ||
| But you've been in a simulation this entire time. | ||
| Yeah, and who says that you and I, right now, this conversation is not a part of the manipulation of that exact simulation. | ||
| That's what my concern is, because I know personally... | ||
| That's the best part! | ||
| If I wasn't me, I would assume that someone's telling me what to do. | ||
| But I'm telling you, no one's telling me what to do. | ||
| That's the weirdest part about it. | ||
| No, you have synchronicity and it happens. | ||
| It falls into place for you, right? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, they're telling you what you can't do. | ||
| You can't commit crimes. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Don't be mean to people. | ||
| Your life in general, every move seems to kind of fall into place for you. | ||
| A lot of them do. | ||
| Even bad things. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| If a bad thing happens, generally, it's because I did something stupid. | ||
| Like, I thought wrong, or I said the wrong thing, or I moved in the wrong direction, then I had to recognize why I moved in the wrong direction. | ||
| All those things are good. | ||
| If you have a bad set, like a bad set in stand-up. | ||
| It's the best example of bad moments. | ||
| I can only imagine how horrifying that must be. | ||
| Sometimes you come out with a new joke and it's wrong. | ||
| It just doesn't work. | ||
| And you're like, I'm going to just open with this. | ||
| And maybe you have one too many Jack Daniels in the back and you get a little frisky. | ||
| Didn't quite handle it right. | ||
| You feel like you're just going to get on stage and take over Adam Curry, but the joke does not come out exactly how you wanted it to because it's fresh. | ||
| A stand-up joke is sort of like a thing that You have an intention, and then there's a result. | ||
| And people, oftentimes, they misconstrue the result with your intention. | ||
| Like, if you bomb, they're like, this motherfucker wanted to hurt my feelings. | ||
| He wanted to make me feel bad with terrible comedy. | ||
| The exact opposite of what the intention is. | ||
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But it's not. | |
| He just missed. | ||
| It's the literal, like, the artistic equivalent of crashing on a surfboard. | ||
| Isn't that where the edge is? | ||
| It's on something that should be offensive, but somehow you laugh about it? | ||
| Sort of, yeah, but it's also, it's like what your ideas are in stand-up are representative of what you actually feel as a person. | ||
| Like, can you make a controversial idea palatable? | ||
| Can you make it palatable? | ||
| That seems to be what it is. | ||
| So what you're doing, if we just take it back to the simulation, you're debugging your own program. | ||
| That is the definition of AI, that you are artificial intelligence. | ||
| To me, this is the big joke. | ||
| We are the artificial intelligence, and these guys are just pretending that they got something. | ||
| That's a way to look at it. | ||
| Here's my way to look at it. | ||
| I don't think we've been talking that long. | ||
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No! | |
| Not at all! | ||
| I think we've been talking about 40,000 years, man. | ||
| If that, yeah. | ||
| I don't think it's been that long. | ||
| I don't think we're that good at it. | ||
| My mom. | ||
| My mom. | ||
| My mom died 15 years ago. | ||
| My mom used to tell me, I said, you know how they came up with the name Brush for Hairbrush? | ||
| I said, No. | ||
| She goes, was it a dude? | ||
| Yeah, this fucking thing. | ||
| And he went like this. | ||
| Brr! | ||
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Shh! | |
| Really? | ||
| No, of course, that's what she really said, but obviously it's bullshit. | ||
| But it was just like, yeah, man, that really made me realize that we really haven't been there that long. | ||
| You know, some fucking caveman just came up with a brush. | ||
| Well, the human being... | ||
| Only took a little bit. | ||
| This form of human has only been around for what? | ||
| Just a little bit. | ||
| Half a million years? | ||
| Yeah, whatever it is. | ||
| At the max, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What's the threshold, Jamie? | ||
| It's like an estimate. | ||
| I think it's between 250 and 500,000 years ago, Homo sapiens emerged. | ||
| That's nothing! | ||
| That's so little! | ||
| I don't know if you remember, but you were saying something with Duncan. | ||
| You were talking about us actually being the spaceship. | ||
| And that we are hurtling through the universe at this amazing speed and everything's whipping by. | ||
| And I love that because you really, when you zoom out of reality and it's all given, yeah, we're on the earth, it's round or whatever. | ||
| Fuck, it's flat, it doesn't matter. | ||
| It's still a thing in space whether it's round or flat. | ||
| It's in space. | ||
| We're flying, we're moving, we're doing stuff. | ||
| That realization... | ||
| Or just thinking about that in general, just people just talking about, wow, man, we're in space. | ||
| Look at the sky. | ||
| Look at the stars. | ||
| What does it mean? | ||
| It's a coward's perspective to just look at the treetops. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| There's something about it. | ||
| Which is why marijuana is something I support. | ||
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It's so important. | |
| That's what I'm talking about, dog. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| I support that shit. | ||
| Come on, governor. | ||
| Get on board. | ||
| Abbott will get there. | ||
| Abbott, I love you. | ||
| Yeah, well, we'll see. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Don't get too easy with your vote there, Joe Rogan. | ||
| Your endorsement's going to mean a lot in the drone star state. | ||
| I'm your friend and I'm wearing my wife's shirt. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You are appropriate. | ||
| Listen, it's not bad. | ||
| Make some money off this shit. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| Stop playing games. | ||
| It's not killing anybody. | ||
| Listen, if Texas is a place we can own a fucking tiger, I had a bit in my act that Texas... | ||
| That is pretty crazy. | ||
| This is a fact. | ||
| This is a 100% fact. | ||
| There's more tigers in captivity in Texas than all of the wild of the world. | ||
| There's more tigers in dudes' backyards. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you can't have weed. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Are we really being responsible here? | ||
| You'll learn that there's codes in Texas. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| It's easier to own a tiger than a dog that's been labeled as dangerous. | ||
| It's estimated there could be from 2,000 to 5,000 tigers living in... | ||
| That's so many! | ||
| 5,000 tigers is a herd! | ||
| Imagine if you saw 5,000 tigers coming over the hill. | ||
| You're like, there's going to be nothing left of me in seconds. | ||
| My buddy Gene has huge snakes in his apartment. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, he has a... | ||
| Does he have a baby? | ||
| No, it's just him. | ||
| One is 16 feet long. | ||
| Have you heard those stories? | ||
| Tigrit, I think. | ||
| Tigrit? | ||
| It has a name? | ||
| Did you just say 16? | ||
| I think it's like 15 or 16. It's incredible. | ||
| And it's really very interesting to see. | ||
| They have an interesting life, these snakes. | ||
| You know what that is for me? | ||
| That's like holding two 80-pound dumbbells and trying to keep your face above water. | ||
| How long can you do this? | ||
| Before those things eat you. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You got a 16-foot snake in your house, son. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I think he's a boa constrictor, so he only... | ||
| Oh, rats. | ||
| But he goes into the bathtub when he feels it's time for a bath. | ||
| He's sleeping. | ||
| They sleep most of the time. | ||
| Yeah, it's a trip, though, because I go there like, no, all right, let me say hi to the snakes, because it's like his family. | ||
| I was watching a video today of a guy who was fishing in Australia. | ||
| I don't know if it's a guy or a girl, but they caught a big fish. | ||
| And it is like the dangers of fishing in Australia. | ||
| And as this guy is reeling this fish in, a crocodile comes swimming out of the water and steals his fish, and they're running away from this crocodile. | ||
| Dude, crocodiles are so scary. | ||
| They have them here, too. | ||
| We have alligators. | ||
| We allow those in America. | ||
| Listen, if we had crocodiles in America the way they have them in Australia, we would kill them all. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Fuck yeah! | ||
| Have you ever been in Australia? | ||
| Yeah, I have for stand-up, but I've never seen those crocs. | ||
| In 1990, I did a documentary and went into the outback and just learned so much, and I don't even recognize Australia anymore. | ||
| So this dude caught a fish, and the crocodile comes and jacks it. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| You gotta run, son. | ||
| Give up the fish. | ||
| So I bet they probably wait. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| There's your fish, bitch. | ||
| It's a huge fish! | ||
| The crocodile just swallows it down. | ||
| Crocodiles are so spooky, man. | ||
| They're so big. | ||
| Look at that thing. | ||
| It's a monster that lives in the jungle. | ||
| We've got to shout out to everybody down under. | ||
| Everybody in Victoria, in Melbourne, who are being locked down like fucking rats. | ||
| They're locked down again? | ||
| Like fucking rats. | ||
| Shout out. | ||
| Shout out to Adam Greentree. | ||
| They're getting screwed. | ||
| They're playing the same damn script down there only six months later. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Well, they're trying to probably protect people and keep their hospital beds. | ||
| Yeah, that's all. | ||
| We flatten the curve. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're probably trying to do a lot of those things. | ||
| But it just seems like no one's doing it right. | ||
| It seems like there's no country that prepared properly. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's almost like, who the fuck saw this coming? | ||
| No one did, you know? | ||
| And there was a pandemic department that we had here that was shut down by Trump. | ||
| When? | ||
| Well, yes, but that was transferred into a... | ||
| Transferred? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So not necessarily shut down? | ||
| Not shut down. | ||
| It became a biological weapons group. | ||
| Jesus! | ||
| Yes, which has the same function as a flu. | ||
| So that is a little different than the story. | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| Explain that. | ||
| So the pandemic response group that was within, I believe, the National Security Council. | ||
| This was the one that Trump was accused of dismantling? | ||
| No, he did dismantle it. | ||
| He dismantled it and took... | ||
| It was only two people or three people. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's in the National Security Council. | ||
| It's a real responsibility, but they transferred that into a biological weapons program to be on the lookout for that, which has the same characteristics as what happened. | ||
| Either way, it doesn't seem like it worked very well, other than the president shutting down some travel or most travel from China and Europe and the UK against everyone else's wishes. | ||
| That part, I think he did well, but... | ||
| I don't know how well this biological warfare outfit worked because, if anything, the tests were either sabotaged or sucked or the CDC is inefficient, ineffective. | ||
| I don't know, but we got that too late. | ||
| And what we got, the PCR tests that spin up the DNA samples 37 to 40 times instead of 30, is producing results that are Could be a lot of 35% false positives. | ||
| So when you don't have any data to work with, you're fucked. | ||
| You're fucked. | ||
| We have nothing. | ||
| You don't have the data. | ||
| 35% false positives? | ||
| Really? | ||
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30%. | |
| 30% false positives. | ||
| This is in the New York Times just last week. | ||
| And so, you know, just to make sure that even though the New York Times is full of shit, I think when they publish something good, it should be noted. | ||
| But isn't also one of those things where they don't know how effective it's going to be? | ||
| They have to implement something. | ||
| They find out how it's effective by looking at all the data that they get back. | ||
| What's effective? | ||
| Like when you have any kind of tests. | ||
| Look, when COVID-19 emerges... | ||
| This is known testing policy. | ||
| Normally you spin it up 30% for a PCR test. | ||
| But when COVID-19 emerged, when was the first test? | ||
| Well, the first ones were bogus, and some of the CDC tests actually contained some of the virus. | ||
| It was fucking crazy. | ||
| It was a huge botch. | ||
| The tests contained the virus? | ||
| Yes, yeah. | ||
| It was a huge botch. | ||
| I mean, not all of them, but it got fucked up. | ||
| And that's when Trump said, President Trump, said, okay, we're now doing the Abbott system. | ||
| You got all the commercial labs in. | ||
| You got all that going. | ||
| Because they were just failing. | ||
| They were just failing. | ||
| But what then happened, I'm not so sure that that's honest because there's a lot of incentive in the pharmaceutical and medical system to skew things a certain way to make sure you get paid. | ||
| And you can't deny that's taken place historically. | ||
| So there's some of it happening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The main way to make sure we had a lot of positives is instead of 30 times amplification of the fragments of the virus that you're looking for, they did it 37 to 40 times, and that gives you a lot more. | ||
| It's known science. | ||
| It's just not told. | ||
| Well, one of the big complaints recently wasn't that the tests are too Accurate. | ||
| Too accurate? | ||
| In a sense that they're labeling people as positive that are no longer contagious. | ||
| They're too sensitive rather than accurate. | ||
| Yes, that's exactly what it is. | ||
| So people are getting a false positive. | ||
| So they're not contagious. | ||
| Nothing at all. | ||
| So in order to test positive, if you're going to get symptoms, You have to have a certain amount of viral load. | ||
| So you have to have more than just a little bit. | ||
| If you had it, just talking here, I might not get it, but if we're making out slowly and swapping spit and having a good time with each other, I might get enough viral load. | ||
| What kind of music would we be doing? | ||
| Total 70s porn music. | ||
| I thought about David Bowie. | ||
| We'd have Jamie make it all red. | ||
| Old school David Bowie, I was thinking. | ||
| Alright, I'll do it. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Whenever it turns you on. | ||
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There's a star man waiting over you. | |
| My child will be horrified when she sees this. | ||
| She'll be like, Dad, seriously, you need to back off on that shit. | ||
| That's a great goddamn song, though. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| So... | ||
| Yeah, we don't have any real data anymore. | ||
| Well, I think here's the thing. | ||
| We want someone to be in charge when everyone is trying to figure it out in real time. | ||
| But the nature of our entire system is not someone's in charge. | ||
| The president can't say, shut it down. | ||
| He just can't say that. | ||
| That has to come from the governors. | ||
| And here in Austin, we have different rules that the governor has allowed, but you don't have to have them, so they're not mandated. | ||
| So that system goes back up the line. | ||
| And in Austin, you know, this is what I don't like. | ||
| We were told, again, masks, social distance, close the bars, etc. | ||
| Once we're into the next phase, which is instead of 40 hospitalizations per day, an average of 22, then we go to the next phase, and then we're allowed to open up some more. | ||
| But it was like, nah. | ||
| Nah, we're going to wait until September 8th because schools are opening. | ||
| We don't want to jeopardize that. | ||
| But that, when you do that to Americans, that is fucked. | ||
| And they're misjudging how Americans take that shit. | ||
| You give us a goal, Joe, we'll go like, we all will go. | ||
| Any color creed background, fuck yeah, we're going to go do this. | ||
| We're going to get this fucking goal. | ||
| Flatten the goddamn curve. | ||
| We're going, bitch. | ||
| This is what we do. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Semper Fi, we go. | ||
| We all go. | ||
| Where we go one, we go all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We go all. | ||
| And then when they say, okay, great job, but now we're going to take another couple weeks. | ||
| We have to meet you next goal. | ||
| That's not it. | ||
| We go, what the fuck? | ||
| Right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's what's happening. | ||
| And this is the danger because it could just be ugly. | ||
| It could just be ugly. | ||
| But something will have to happen. | ||
| I think that the real danger is not letting the actual interaction take place. | ||
| The real danger is in silencing opposing opinions. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Always. | ||
| Because I feel like when you're doing that, if you have a platform... | ||
| Whether it's like Facebook or YouTube or Twitter or anything, if you have a platform and in that platform some people believe X, Y, others believe Y, if you just decide to shut down everyone that believes Y, you create a tyranny. | ||
| You have a tyranny of ideology. | ||
| Especially if it's connected to the economy, like it is in Hollywood. | ||
| This is one of the things that I experienced. | ||
| I didn't experience it personally. | ||
| I wasn't a victim of it by any stretch. | ||
| But I had friends that would have this perspective that they knew they had to have if they went into meetings. | ||
| They were trapped, otherwise they wouldn't get the gigs. | ||
| Man, I don't even think it was the fault of the people that were enforcing it. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| I think it's just a natural scenario where human beings... | ||
| One more time. | ||
| Salud, brother. | ||
| To the real podfather. | ||
| The real one. | ||
| To the real Joe Rogan experience. | ||
| Jamie. | ||
| Jamie's asleep. | ||
| Big fucking part of this thing. | ||
| He's been here all day. | ||
| I love that Jamie is like, he's like a hot property now in Austin. | ||
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Hot property. | |
| Jamie is like, what? | ||
| This motherfucker's here alone? | ||
| Yeah, look out. | ||
| Is he single? | ||
| Dangerous bitches headed your way, son. | ||
| My goodness, this guy. | ||
| How old is he? | ||
| He's young, right? | ||
| He's 12. Fucking asshole. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| 25, 25, whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| Yeah, man, he's been getting DNA shots every day I've known him. | ||
| Once the NASA people got into... | ||
| See, once I had to reverse my stance on the moon landing and then the CIA people took over, Jamie started getting shots. | ||
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He's been on UFOs. | |
| He's like the nerdy type. | ||
| Jamie's already got a Neuralink. | ||
| Ask him. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah, he got it. | ||
| Fuck those pigs. | ||
| That was kind of weird, man, with the pig demo. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| Elon, man. | ||
| I like it because he always does the anti-demo. | ||
| I didn't even watch that. | ||
| Come to me when you're working with monkeys. | ||
| I could not, and Tina's like, what the fuck are you actually watching? | ||
| I see Elon Musk with pigs? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| When you can turn a raccoon into that Guardians of the Galaxy character, come to me then. | ||
| I love the idea. | ||
| I love the idea. | ||
| I would love to try the interface instead of the keyboard and just be able to think it and make it go. | ||
| I love to get the analysis power of the computer. | ||
| But I would like to be able to turn it off. | ||
| I have two concerns. | ||
| I would like to turn it off. | ||
| One, I don't want to be an early adopter. | ||
| But two... | ||
| If you're not an early adopter, what if those motherfuckers just take off and control everything? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Dude, Elon and I were talking about it. | ||
| It's not that simple. | ||
| It takes more than just the first generation of early adopters. | ||
| But I would say get in early. | ||
| But they do get a jump. | ||
| Get in early is what I'd say. | ||
| He was saying it might have a massive increase in their productivity. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And that would be a huge advantage in terms of business. | ||
| Do you know what's really fascinating? | ||
| And this does play into this. | ||
| Most companies who have had people working from home have now cut 40% of their real estate portfolio. | ||
| This is going to continue forever. | ||
| The remaining 60% of their real estate portfolio offices have increased. | ||
| There's no more cubicles. | ||
| It's executive offices, meeting rooms, conference rooms. | ||
| Everyone else is going to be working from home. | ||
| And the productivity, almost across the board, from what I understand from my friends who are in IT integration, is up significantly. | ||
| Because people now know that they're at home. | ||
| It used to be, if you were working on the road, if someone heard a bird tweeting in the background, you'd be busted. | ||
| Like, you fucker, you're not in the office, but now it's accepted. | ||
| And so people are working from anywhere and everywhere. | ||
| And companies are fucking loving this. | ||
| Do people call people out on bird sounds in the background? | ||
| Back in the day? | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| If you're on a conference call. | ||
| Who the fuck? | ||
| Put it on mute, bitch! | ||
| You're walking through the city. | ||
| You're in Macy's. | ||
| I hear you. | ||
| Oh yeah, all that shit. | ||
| I had that too. | ||
| Remote work, it seems like it makes more sense. | ||
| It's done, it's done, it's done, it's done. | ||
| So live where you work, work where you live. | ||
| But what happens to like the cultures that are created by big businesses all working together? | ||
| The whole world is changing, Joe Rogan. | ||
| I know, but is that... | ||
| This is what's taking place, man. | ||
| This is why you keep that in view for us. | ||
| You keep bringing all the crazy fuckers. | ||
| Don't put that shit on me! | ||
| You have a huge responsibility. | ||
| Don't you put that evil on me! | ||
| You're in Texas now. | ||
| This is where legends are born, Joe Rogan. | ||
| But don't... | ||
| I mean, don't you think a lot of what we're talking about here, whether it's a conspiracy or just the way things happen when systems conflict with each other and one gains control and the opposing forces move in and take more control. | ||
| So it's always been that case. | ||
| In 2006, I was living in London and I got an invitation from the Queen of England. | ||
| Damn, son. | ||
| And she was relaunching the Royal website. | ||
| And I was invited to come and be a part of that. | ||
| And they picked me up in a car, in a Mercedes, interestingly enough. | ||
| I was hoping it would be a carriage. | ||
| Should have been a Rolls. | ||
| But you know the front gate at Buckingham Palace? | ||
| Took me right through the fucking front gate. | ||
| It opened up. | ||
| I went in there. | ||
| I was in this waiting room with about a hundred other people. | ||
| And there was, you know, art I'd never seen. | ||
| Rembrandt's, Van Gogh's, I've never seen those before. | ||
| And then this whole ceremony. | ||
| And then you shake her hand. | ||
| You know, you go down the line. | ||
| It's Mr. Adam Carre. | ||
| And I looked her straight in the eye. | ||
| Everyone's bowing. | ||
| I'm like, let me look in there. | ||
| What do I see? | ||
| And I saw nothing, man. | ||
| Lizard. | ||
| Yeah, lizard. | ||
| But the fact is that if we still are willing to believe that we need this tradition of this old lady with funny hats living in some prime fucking ass real estate in the middle of London, we got a lot of thinking to do. | ||
| Well, we don't. | ||
| We got a lot of fucking thinking to do. | ||
| We're American, goddammit. | ||
| We're here in Texas. | ||
| I don't know what you're talking about with England. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| This is the People's Republic of Texas, and it stands on its own. | ||
| We love our neighbors. | ||
| Those folks over there with their kings and their queens, they can go fuck themselves. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We're a very welcoming people. | ||
| This is where we're underestimated here in Texas. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| We're good people. | ||
| The queen thing is ridiculous. | ||
| I'm sure she's great. | ||
| I'm sure she's the nicest lady in the world. | ||
| But the idea that she's the queen... | ||
| I had lunch with the king and queen of the Netherlands a year and a half ago. | ||
| It's fucking ridiculous. | ||
| It's outrageous. | ||
| How did you get here? | ||
| They just were born in the right spot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But why do sane thinking people still want them involved in their political and everyday life? | ||
| Because we're still kind of living in this caste system, in this system of classes. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| And that's where we're at. | ||
| You're a person who understands... | ||
| Blockchain and the idea of Bitcoin, a lot of what we're trying to do. | ||
| What people are trying to do, come up with new ways to run the world. | ||
| Is there a way of running a decentralized government? | ||
| Is that possible? | ||
| Is it a problem that we look at government like you have to elect these people and they have ultimate control? | ||
| Here's one of the more ridiculous ones. | ||
| Whether you're bipartisan, whether you're a staunch Republican, staunch Democrat, please, hold on for a second. | ||
| Why is it okay that if you get elected president, you can pardon people? | ||
| Like, is the law the law? | ||
| Or is it not the law? | ||
| Like, you have a fucking get-out-of-jail-free pass? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have a get-out-of-jail-free pass for people that stole millions of dollars, who did all kinds of crazy shit. | ||
| You could just... | ||
| That's one of those. | ||
| There's a couple things you can do as a president, including appointing Supreme Court justices. | ||
| This is kind of at the core of solidifying that executive branch. | ||
| They needed some power. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| So Congress, House of Representatives, they get the purse, they get the money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Senate gets to be just cigar-smoking douchebags who, like, fuck around all the time, like, whatever. | ||
| But they have, you know, they make it happen. | ||
| These are the backroom cigar smoking deals. | ||
| And then we have the executive branch who needs to, you know, they need to have some power. | ||
| And so their power, because of course the Supreme Court for us is like, oh, the Supreme Court said it, man. | ||
| That's the end of the fucking line. | ||
| Which technically is not. | ||
| That's why we let the president appoint the Supreme Court and federal judges. | ||
| Isn't that weird, though? | ||
| The president has a four-year term. | ||
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| But they can appoint someone who's there for life. | ||
| Well, they're all appointed for life only if someone dies or leaves. | ||
| So it's not every president gets this. | ||
| President Trump got some major fucking break here. | ||
| He got two, maybe a third, maybe a fourth, depending. | ||
| And I wish no ill on anyone. | ||
| RBG, you know, she's on the ropes. | ||
| She seems to be bulletproof. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And I like her. | ||
| She is... | ||
| I don't agree with a lot of her decisions, but she is an American success story. | ||
| If you know her story about Ruth Bader Ginsburg, that's a very, very powerful woman who really is impressive. | ||
| I gotta pee again. | ||
| Fuck you, Joe. | ||
| Let me pause, and then you tell me the Ruth Bader Ginsburg story. | ||
| Give me... | ||
| Is this the first time Joe Rogan has had two pit stops on the show? | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| That's probably the first time, right? | ||
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Two within three hours. | |
| I'm out of shape. | ||
| I took a whole week off. | ||
| I had to move and set up this spot. | ||
| My bladder shrunk back down to normal size. | ||
| My bladder was very impressive at one point in time. | ||
| I can go like four or five hours even. | ||
| No peeing. | ||
| Just strong. | ||
| Stay strong. | ||
| But eventually it shrunk back down. | ||
| So how can we support you moving here to Austin? | ||
| I'm already here, bitch. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We want to help you out. | ||
| What can we do for you? | ||
| What do you need, man? | ||
| What can we make easier for your life? | ||
| You've already done everything. | ||
| My goal as a person, and this is something I've been thinking about a lot lately, because... | ||
| I had a hard time coming to grips with this idea that people are listening to what I think. | ||
| I'm not an expert in anything, but I've come to the conclusion through all the trials and errors and pros and cons of my life that if we just go into things with the intention of working things out, | ||
| not of fighting, not of conflict, it's possible That all the excess energy that we have that's dedicated to these unnecessary conflicts, that maybe we can come to a comfortable agreement for both parties. | ||
| We're fucking that up because of this ancient DNA that we have that leads us to always want to go to war with opposing tribes. | ||
| I feel it in myself. | ||
| I felt it in myself when I was younger. | ||
| I've fought against it. | ||
| I've analyzed it. | ||
| I've been confused by it and humiliated by it. | ||
| It's a part of being a person, and it's a very strong motivation. | ||
| And I've mocked it many times, even in pro and con jest. | ||
| I understand what it is. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| There's a thing that we all have where we want to be loved and accepted by a group of our peers and our community. | ||
| But doing that out of fear, it leads to a lack of critical thinking, which leads to ideologies, which is why we have cults. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| In the late 80, 81, I was quite young, but I wound up in Los Angeles and I was trying to have some meetings, trying to figure out if I could be somewhere in Hollywood or something. | ||
| It was like a total lark. | ||
| And I had one or two phone numbers from, I think, the backup singer. | ||
| Remember there was Janet Jackson, What Have You Done For Me Lately? | ||
| Yeah, I remember that. | ||
| There was an answer record to that. | ||
| What have you done for me? | ||
| It was an answer record. | ||
| Here's what I've done for you lately, bitch. | ||
| It was kind of one of those deals. | ||
| I don't listen to those because those are negative. | ||
| Well, but back in this time, so I wound up... | ||
| In probably Compton area, and it was a... | ||
| I don't know what radio station it was, but it was probably one of KLX or the equivalent of New York, BLS. And there were these guys doing rap battles. | ||
| And so it kind of transformed from gangs to rapping. | ||
| That's how hip-hop really got started. | ||
| You know, you were battling against them, and you had the breakdance battles and all these different... | ||
| It was pure tribes against each other. | ||
| Maybe today's version, instead of bullshitting each other on some fucking... | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| That's so 80s! | ||
| That might be one of the most 80s things I've ever seen. | ||
| I don't want to say we have... | ||
| Oh my god, it was amazing. | ||
| That totally discredited my whole argument, just by showing that to me, yes. | ||
| You really ruin it. | ||
| Once people see the shoulder pads, like, Curry's full of shit. | ||
| Shut up, man. | ||
| That period should not be spoken. | ||
| Maybe we should all just be doing podcasts. | ||
| Everybody get a fucking podcast together. | ||
| Work it out. | ||
| Yell at somebody over some kind of Skype connection. | ||
| That's not the worst idea. | ||
| Just get started. | ||
| Get started. | ||
| Get started. | ||
| I honestly believe that we should come up with some sort of an agreement for how we communicate. | ||
| Don't be assholes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| By example. | ||
| That's the only way. | ||
| By example. | ||
| Just that alone will shift so many things into the proper position. | ||
| By example. | ||
| Just be an example. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| I think we also have to acknowledge that people fucking change and grow over time. | ||
| Do we ever? | ||
| If we want people to get better, we have to assume and we have to acknowledge that whoever they are today is not who they were yesterday. | ||
| And there's a lot of people that are, like, I see it a lot with either alcoholics or drug addicts, where people just dismiss them. | ||
| And they go, ah, this fucking guy, he's just, you know, he had that thing with oxys, he's always going to be that way. | ||
| Are you fucking sure? | ||
| People can absolutely change. | ||
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Are you sure? | |
| They can change. | ||
| If they decide, they can change. | ||
| And they can go on to become amazing people. | ||
| There's a grip that anything can gain. | ||
| On you, whether it's opiates or coke or whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| But there's some things that become you. | ||
| There are you. | ||
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The new Adam Curry system involves cocaine. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, no, but yeah. | ||
| If you got hooked on cocaine. | ||
| It's marijuana. | ||
| That is throughout my entire system, my being. | ||
| It's how I live a lot of life. | ||
| Let's just say it. | ||
| Meth. | ||
| We both love it. | ||
| It's an amazing thing. | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| Thank God for trailers. | ||
| I've never done that, but if I did, I'd probably keep doing it. | ||
| That's really all it takes. | ||
| And people have to at least, and this is the big problem, not be afraid to say what you think. | ||
| And think about how you say it. | ||
| Try and say something nicely, but don't be afraid of using something that is politically not right or could be a problem. | ||
| The term problematic is bullshit by itself. | ||
| Either it's a problem or it's not a problem. | ||
| I think we have this undeniable inclination to form groups. | ||
| And form groups of people that think along our lines and then everybody who opposes those thoughts, we close ourselves off to their perspective and we fight against them. | ||
| It's just a natural thing that people do. | ||
| And it's one of the reasons why we have so many problems with all kinds of different ideas is that people, whether you have this idea, when you've made a decision on a controversial issue in your mind, most of the time, what you're basing your decision is on your own perspective, | ||
| perspective, your education, how you, wealth, let's just give it the best of possible results and saying you're looking at any problem as a, you're going to look at it objectively, come up with your own perspective, but your perspective is going to be different than someone who grew up in Miami, which is going but your perspective is going to be different than someone who grew up in Miami, which is going to be Of course. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| This is the core of America, by the way. | ||
| Just to tie into that, my friend Mo, he was born and grew up in North Carolina, lives in Virginia. | ||
| He's ADOS. We've never met each other. | ||
| I've never even seen him. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| But one day, I'm going to go hang out with Mo, and I'm going to eat whatever the fuck Mo's family eats. | ||
| I'm going to hang out with his children and talk the way... | ||
| About things they're interested in. | ||
| And he's going to come and his wife will come and visit us and he'll see our side and our culture. | ||
| And it's beautiful because you can enjoy it with each other and still be different. | ||
| We don't have to be forced into this one, it's all the same thing. | ||
| I don't believe in that. | ||
| That's not fun. | ||
| That's not fun. | ||
| But it doesn't have to be all the same thing. | ||
| The idea of just people. | ||
| Just people doesn't mean it's all the same. | ||
| No. | ||
| It means we're all just people. | ||
| But there's people that live like this, and there's people that live over here, and there's a different climate there, and this place is really cold. | ||
| I get the idea that's not where some forces want us to go. | ||
| What is that though? | ||
| That's just people jockeying for control. | ||
| Should we concentrate on them or should we really concentrate on what we actually think about these things? | ||
| When I talk to rational people, what do they think about these things? | ||
| They kind of think what I just said, like just people. | ||
| It's just people. | ||
| This good, bad, smart, dumb, interesting, fascinating. | ||
| Everybody's different. | ||
| Yeah, people who don't read, who say brilliant shit. | ||
| There's people who can't see and they can play guitar. | ||
| But isn't that all basically coming from a place of fear, either not fitting in or not being understood or not understanding and just being afraid of what that means? | ||
| And I think that's fueled by a lot of things around us. | ||
| We're just afraid. | ||
| It's fear. | ||
| It's always fear. | ||
| It's a great mechanism. | ||
| There's always a lot of fear, and I think that fear encourages people to engage in groupthink, and it discourages them from coming up with a contradictory opinion. | ||
| If there's a narrative that all the really aggressive people, whether it's right-wing or left-wing, if there's a narrative that they're espousing, there's a gravity to that. | ||
| You want to tell people, I'm in, man! | ||
| Yeah, we need to do that! | ||
| Lock them borders down! | ||
| Oh, yeah, we need to do that and eat the rich. | ||
| Whatever it is. | ||
| One side or the other. | ||
| There's a draw to that. | ||
| What we need to learn is not to immediately say, you're wrong and I hate you because of it. | ||
| Because once we admit that everything we've just talked about, I don't know if I'm fucking right. | ||
| Just my opinion. | ||
| What you say is your opinion. | ||
| We could be wrong. | ||
| So you just have to recognize that. | ||
| And what I don't understand, and that's part of the mechanism somehow, is this, and maybe it's triggered by black and white checker boxes. | ||
| Maybe it's triggered by somewhere over the rainbow. | ||
| I don't know what's going on, but for some reason we're being triggered into Hating someone with a different idea. | ||
| And that's fucked. | ||
| That is completely fucked up. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's not necessary. | ||
| Have you ever seen the documentary that was on the debates between Gore Vidal and... | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| This is a while back. | ||
| It's a while back. | ||
| I do remember this. | ||
| 1960s. | ||
| What was it called? | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| What the fuck's the British gentleman's name? | ||
| There it is. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| Best of enemies, that's what it is. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's Gore Vidal, and who was the... | ||
| That was a very famous... | ||
| I'm high as fuck right now, I can't remember. | ||
| William F. Buckley. | ||
| William F. Buckley. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| And there was a really fascinating moment where William F. Buckley got upset at him and threatened to punch him and shit. | ||
| Trying to hit him. | ||
| It's real intense. | ||
| It's again, it's this, if I think I'm right and I think you're wrong and I want to prove that I'm right and you're wrong, it becomes a game of tennis. | ||
| It becomes wrestling. | ||
| It becomes a contest. | ||
| And any contest that people engage in, There's all sorts of factors that come into play. | ||
| The Mongols didn't conquer a quarter of the world because their ideology was right. | ||
| They had the right factors in place that allowed them to do that. | ||
| Elephants. | ||
| All kinds of shit. | ||
| So if someone has a control of a situation, it doesn't necessarily mean that they should. | ||
| William F. Buckley, son, William F. Buckley Jr., who was one of the founders of the conservative America, his son, Christopher, was married to my cousin, Lucy. | ||
| And this is... | ||
| Damn, dude. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| My whole family is all kinds of government shit. | ||
| Blizzard people, right? | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| No. | ||
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| Maybe. | ||
| My Uncle Don is incredible. | ||
| He was very high in the CIA. He became Bush Senior's National Security Advisor. | ||
| So basically like the Michael Flynn or the Condoleezza Rice. | ||
| Did they frisk you at Thanksgiving? | ||
| Well, it's very interesting because I've never been cleared. | ||
| I have no clearance. | ||
| And so at some family gatherings, some of the other cousins of cousins who I don't really know that well, like, well, we can't talk about this because you don't have clearance. | ||
| I'm like, sorry, excuse me. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But that's really, if you look at the No Agenda show, it's been a truth-seeking of my own life because when I was in my teens, my parents... | ||
| They both told me that they had been involved in... | ||
| They were, I guess, called civilians in the State Department. | ||
| And that's why we had lived in Uganda when I was very young. | ||
| And I think that's why I probably moved to Europe. | ||
| And there's a lot of people who are... | ||
| My whole family is definitely patriots. | ||
| They've done a lot of weird things. | ||
| They've been involved in weird shit. | ||
| Everything from... | ||
| Well, my paternal grandfather was in the lieutenant commander in the Pacific, you know, the Japanese theater. | ||
| My maternal grandfather, Albert Schoble, he actually was German, but he landed at Normandy. | ||
| He was in fucking D-Day. | ||
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Holy shit, dude. | |
| He got a Purple Heart and all the shit for it. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| So everybody was kind of involved. | ||
| We got all kinds of, you know, very patriotic. | ||
| Did you ever talk to him about that? | ||
| I've talked to all of them. | ||
| And I've actually talked... | ||
| It's funny enough, my uncle I've had much deeper conversations with, and he's close to 90 now, so he's kind of done. | ||
| I mean, I hope he stays around for a long fucking time. | ||
| He and his wife, he was ambassador to South Korea. | ||
| I mean, this is a major dude. | ||
| And I believe he recruited my parents. | ||
| Both of them are gone, so I can talk about it. | ||
| I can't say exactly what they were doing, but I do know one thing is that, and this is why I think, once I realized this, I have distrust of the media, is that I believe my father was in Uganda to report on certain events that were taking place. | ||
| This was before Idi Amin came in. | ||
| So Abote was still president. | ||
| And I think the U.S. controlled Abote. | ||
| I'm not sure if they controlled Idi Amin. | ||
| But he would write a story about something happening there, and it may not have been exactly what the story was, but it was a pro-America or pro-America agenda story. | ||
| And because it was in the, I don't know, let's call it the fucking Uganda Times, the New York Times and the Washington Post could say, according to the Uganda Times, this is what's happening. | ||
| So that story became truth, but that story was actually a message from United States intelligence or the president or whatever, or the State Department, whatever our democracy idea was, whatever our fucking agenda was. | ||
| And so when they told me, they was really telling me like, you know, we're not in this anymore, we're not doing any of that, you know, we're legit. | ||
| But it opened my eyes to having lived this huge lie, not that I knew it, but, you know, why did my dad come home one day and he was able to speak French fluently? | ||
| Like, what the fuck? | ||
| I remember some of that. | ||
| You can tell me whatever you want. | ||
| That's a cool language. | ||
| Okay, bro. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| Well, it is actually. | ||
| So that kind of stuff was kind of mind-blowing. | ||
| And it really reset my thinking. | ||
| I really don't know much. | ||
| Both my parents passed. | ||
| My dad passed last year. | ||
| He was 80. The last several years of his life, the thinking was really not there anymore. | ||
| It just kind of went downhill. | ||
| And we never really had it. | ||
| He was gone a lot. | ||
| I don't blame him because he did what he had to do. | ||
| And I think all my family are very patriotic no matter what they were involved in. | ||
| I think it came from a good place. | ||
| And so I've kind of become this counterweight to all of that in some odd way. | ||
| But I know that a lot of stuff is bullshit. | ||
| And I know because I feel that my immediate family was involved in some of the creation of that. | ||
| Maybe a long time ago, but I don't think it got any better. | ||
| Yeah, I think everything evolves, right? | ||
| And if people are pulling the wool over people's eyes in the 1960s... | ||
| I think it's only gotten much, much, much, much, much worse. | ||
| Much better at it. | ||
| It's just been much better at it. | ||
| The internet has been a blessing and a curse at the same time. | ||
| It's always how it's going to be with everything in life. | ||
| As long as we realize it, as long as we can have it in the back of your mind, this could be bullshit. | ||
| Just have that in the back of your mind. | ||
| It's always a possibility. | ||
| With all these systems, if you're looking at it without any connection to who's right and who's wrong, you just look at it like this little battle of bugs battling it out. | ||
| Just look at it in terms of what are the qualities of each side. | ||
| Consider the source. | ||
| Yeah, consider the source. | ||
| It's just hard for people. | ||
| But also, go out and walk in nature. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Connect. | ||
| Turn off the phone. | ||
| Leave it at home. | ||
| Just disconnect. | ||
| It's important for your immune system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I really believe that. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Leave that shit at home. | ||
| Go without it. | ||
| Make love. | ||
| I know it sounds nutty, but make fucking love. | ||
| Is that a Bad Company song? | ||
| Feel like a baby. | ||
| Is that Bad Company? | ||
| Yeah, of course it is. | ||
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Fuck yeah. | |
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Any sex song will do. | ||
| Any sex song. | ||
| Any sex song will do, man. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| That's what we need to do. | ||
| What was the song about the kid? | ||
| Shooting Star? | ||
| Everybody thought they were that kid when I was in high school. | ||
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Johnny was a schoolboy when he heard his first Beatles song. | |
| What the fuck is that? | ||
| I grew up, I was in Holland. | ||
| I think I missed that one. | ||
| You don't know that song? | ||
|
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Who the fuck was that? | |
| Isn't that Bad Company? | ||
|
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Shooting Star. | ||
| It's a song about a rock star. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I feel stupid now. | ||
| It's an amazing rock star who dies young. | ||
| I had a certain set of stuff in Europe growing up around the same time because I was really there from seven on through teenage years. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| So I had a lot of different stuff. | ||
| Bad Company, second straight album, Straight Shooter, 1975. There was something about a lot of that music that got discredited. | ||
| Because it wasn't as complex as maybe The Who or Rolling Stones or Zeppelin. | ||
| There was some music that just didn't get the credit it deserves. | ||
| Billy Squire. | ||
| Remember Billy Squire? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Lonely is the night. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| All of that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of stuff that happened in South Jersey, too. | ||
| A lot of Southside Johnny. | ||
| But also Skid Row. | ||
| I mean, those guys. | ||
| I love those guys. | ||
| People loved or hate Bruce Springsteen. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I will love him forever just because, but I don't really see eye to eye with him on a lot of stuff anymore. | ||
| I don't have to. | ||
| His songs, like Captain Jack, is one of my all-time favorite songs. | ||
| To me, it's The River. | ||
| That's a great song, too. | ||
| How about Brilliant Disguise? | ||
| Well, that was when I was just starting in television in Europe, and they had that... | ||
| Is it you, baby? | ||
| And it was the really... | ||
| He had these kind of soft, cool videos. | ||
| Like when he had fire. | ||
| Oh, baby, I'm on fire. | ||
| Hey, little girl, is your daddy home? | ||
| You were feeling that shit. | ||
| That's a pedophile song. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| That was rock and roll, bitch. | ||
| That was rock and roll. | ||
| Do not associate that with the boss. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| It's a mistake. | ||
| Hey, little girl, is your daddy home? | ||
| I went to Moscow with Skid Row and all those guys. | ||
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That was crazy. | |
| I don't really mean that, Bruce. | ||
| No, he knows. | ||
| Just jokes. | ||
| Can we still do these? | ||
| We'd have to pretend. | ||
| Are we allowed to do jokes anymore, Adam Curry? | ||
| How do you feel about that? | ||
| You can still do jokes, can't you? | ||
| When's your next special? | ||
| When's your next special? | ||
| I need a special. | ||
| I can't do comedy right now, so how am I going to do a special? | ||
| It's going to take a couple of years before you get one together, you think, with writing and testing it out? | ||
| Who knows, man? | ||
| Who knows when we can really do comedy? | ||
| You need clubs and an audience, right? | ||
| To test that shit. | ||
| Well, not just test it. | ||
| It's just to perform. | ||
| Who knows when we can perform again? | ||
| Right now, guys are doing... | ||
| Some folks are doing outside places. | ||
| Was this Chappelle Camp or something I heard about? | ||
| Dave Chappelle took over a wedding chapel. | ||
| What's going on with that? | ||
| An outdoor wedding chapel. | ||
| And he set it up as a comedy show. | ||
| Socially distanced. | ||
| Everybody gets tested. | ||
| But there's more going on apparently. | ||
| He does them all the time. | ||
| He does them constantly. | ||
| Where are they? | ||
| Can you see them on YouTube? | ||
| It's in Yellow Springs, Ohio. | ||
| Can you see them online? | ||
| You have to be there. | ||
| I love this guy. | ||
| That guy is fantastic. | ||
| So you have to go there? | ||
| It's not recorded? | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| This has got to be HBO, Netflix. | ||
| No, he's got to be there. | ||
| Can we go there? | ||
| Can we go there? | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Have you been? | ||
| I have not yet, no. | ||
| Have you been invited? | ||
| I've been busy, yes, I have. | ||
| Of course you've been invited. | ||
| What am I talking about? | ||
| This is the first show we've ever done. | ||
| Can I carry your bag, Joe Rogan? | ||
| Nope, I'm good. | ||
| I don't want any sympathy, but this is the first night we've ever done in this space. | ||
| So it's been like a weird transition to just decide we're getting out of L.A. and then literally two months later... | ||
| Can I ask you about that? | ||
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Just... | |
| Because I had similar... | ||
| I was gone within six weeks once I had arrived here. | ||
| So you felt it, and you took your family down here to check it out. | ||
| You guys had been here before. | ||
| You got business here, right? | ||
| You've been here before. | ||
| Yeah, I've been here many times. | ||
| I love the city. | ||
| It just seems like you moved real quick. | ||
| I was surprised. | ||
| Well, my kids are in Zoom classes. | ||
| It's a real bummer. | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| Clearly, I'm not saying they should be in school. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe you're right. | ||
| You know what the situation is, what you're seeing right now. | ||
| What I'm saying is Zoom classes are not healthy for kids. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's a weird disconnect. | ||
| They're not around their friends. | ||
| When they are around their friends, they're more frantic. | ||
| I believe that children need a certain amount of socializing with each other in order to be developed. | ||
| I think it's important. | ||
| I think it's really good for them. | ||
| I think it's good for them to emotionally experience conversations with each other unsupervised. | ||
| It's good to learn how to talk to people. | ||
| It's good to go to your parents and tell them, you know, Debbie got mad at me because I said, and you said, well, you know, Debbie probably thought this, and you have these kind of Human interaction. | ||
| I feel like if the kids aren't right in front of each other all the time like that, they're missing some of that. | ||
| I don't know if I'm right. | ||
| I'm hoping that this is just a momentary roadblock and then a few months later from now, we have some sort of viable medication, whatever it is. | ||
| Whatever it is, we realize, okay, we're going to be okay. | ||
| And people can go back to school. | ||
| But kids, part of their development is interacting with other kids. | ||
| It's just part of what it is. | ||
| That's the whole point of going there. | ||
| There's a dance. | ||
| They learn. | ||
| I remember things that I said that was mean when I was like five years old. | ||
| Are you worried about your kids having this lapse? | ||
| They're 15 and 12, I think, or 13. No, 12 and 10. I'm not worried about it in terms of... | ||
| I don't think it's surmountable. | ||
| It's a minor concern. | ||
| The real concern is like, don't let your kid get eaten by a tiger. | ||
| In Texas, where we have a lot of those fucking tigers. | ||
| Don't let your kid starve to death. | ||
| There's a lot bigger concerns. | ||
| But I think that as a parent, if you know something you're supposed to teach to your kids, if you have an idea of something you're supposed to explain to your kids... | ||
| If you see things that are going in a weird way, so in this way, it's like you feel more of a need to have conversations with them about just life overall and also what they're learning in school. | ||
| But life overall, maybe even more so. | ||
| To let them know, like, oh, did you see these people around here? | ||
| They're people. | ||
| Just like your dad's a dummy, you know, and your mom has to figure things out. | ||
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Like, that's the whole world, okay? | |
| Your dad will tell you right now, daddy's a dummy, okay? | ||
| Don't come to me with math problems, but I'm going to protect you as much as I can. | ||
| But you have to recognize that this whole world is filled with dummies like me, okay? | ||
| So most people that are making the decisions, or at the very least, are choosing the people that make the decisions, are like me and dumb. | ||
| So know that. | ||
| That's a lot to swallow for a 12-year-old. | ||
| Or a 10-year-old. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| What are you doing to me? | ||
| Communicate with them and let them know, hey, we are all trying to work this out. | ||
| This is what being a person is. | ||
| My daughter just turned 30. My stepdaughters are 23 and 25. Finally getting it. | ||
| My 30-year-old, she fucking gets it so, so good. | ||
| She really gets it. | ||
| It's awesome when they get it. | ||
| Actually, when I divorced a second time, and this is the third final marriage, it's a charm. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I was so in love. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| In love with my best friend. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And vice versa. | ||
| My daughter came to me and said, She sat me up. | ||
| The lioness came back to the line. | ||
| She said, listen, I'm glad you left her. | ||
| This is what you've done wrong. | ||
| Here's the stuff I think is fucked up. | ||
| Here's how you fucking damaged me. | ||
| It was some really stupid fucking shit, and it hurt me a lot. | ||
| But I've forgiven you, and now you are going to get up on your two feet. | ||
| You're going to be a fucking man. | ||
| You're going to move on. | ||
| And she blessed me on everything, and it was the most beautiful moment in my life. | ||
| And from there, it's just been... | ||
| Soaring. | ||
| Soaring. | ||
| And that's when she had figured it out. | ||
| She had figured it out before I had. | ||
| Very impressed with her. | ||
| That's heavy. | ||
| Very impressed with her. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I think every child eventually comes to their parents and has a version of that conversation at some point. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| And I think it's great. | ||
| The hope is that you'll do better than yours did and then your kids will do better than you did. | ||
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Of course. | |
| We evolve. | ||
| But we're so afraid of making it worse or making them feel the pain that we felt or rejection or disappointment. | ||
| And it's a slippery slope, you know, what you do there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think we have to go back to what we were talking about. | ||
| We haven't even been talking for that long. | ||
| We've been talking for 50,000 years. | ||
| And already we've dumbed it down to fucking fingers on a touch screen. | ||
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But dude, realistically, it's been so short. | |
| The amount of time we've been talking. | ||
| You make a good point. | ||
| We were talking. | ||
| We're no longer talking. | ||
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We're texting. | |
| We're texting, Joe. | ||
| We're texting. | ||
| It hit a weird dip. | ||
| I think we're going to be okay. | ||
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Whew. | |
| We're texting. | ||
| I honestly feel like if you looked at the way technology evolves things, technology evolves things towards demand. | ||
| And I think there's a legitimate demand today for more connection. | ||
| And people are finding it in mason jars and reclaimed wood. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| I think if technology could eliminate this bizarre aspect of social media where you write things out and a person is not in front of you when this communication is delivered and you know you're hurting their feelings but you don't have to experience their My stepdaughter, Ellen, she moved to Chicago with her fiancé two weeks before the shutdown. | ||
| From Austin to there, they were getting ready. | ||
| They had jobs lined up. | ||
| Everything shut the fuck down. | ||
| Horrific shit they've gone through. | ||
| But they already were on the path, and they're now accelerating that path. | ||
| They're going to Maine. | ||
| They're unplugging. | ||
| They're going to live completely within a smaller community. | ||
| Nomads! | ||
| Smaller community. | ||
| No. | ||
| Smaller community. | ||
| Igloos! | ||
| Going back a little bit. | ||
| I don't think there's anything wrong with that. | ||
| We can learn a lot from this. | ||
| And if that's the trend, and we all make babies, please, we still have to make children. | ||
| Dogs are not a substitute. | ||
| I love dogs. | ||
| We need to keep making babies. | ||
| People, otherwise we become Japan and the Japanese debt trap. | ||
| The money will be fine. | ||
| We're going to have UBI, some version of it. | ||
| We'll be very innovative. | ||
| You've got to keep pounding the old in and out, eh? | ||
| You've got to keep making babies. | ||
| We need babies. | ||
| Otherwise, that will be a problem. | ||
| That's just my view. | ||
| I could be wrong. | ||
| I smoked some weed today. | ||
| There's a thing that people like to say, like, we don't need any more people. | ||
| Oh, the population bomb? | ||
| Yeah, it's been going on forever. | ||
| But it is kind of true. | ||
| There's a lot of people, especially if you're in a place like L.A. There's a lot of people, yeah. | ||
| But what's also kind of true is, don't you like people? | ||
| I love people. | ||
| They're my favorite things. | ||
| People are the best things in the world to play with. | ||
| People are awesome. | ||
| Yeah, but there is a problem when there's too many of us. | ||
| There really is. | ||
| It seems to always work out. | ||
| It was supposed to be too much here and too much then and too much then. | ||
| I'm not opposed to the idea that it's going to work out. | ||
| We've got a lot of space, man. | ||
| We've got a lot of space in the world still. | ||
| For now. | ||
| If we keep growing, eventually it's going to come to a point in time. | ||
| But then there's the other concept that as things westernize, people are less and less likely to have children early in life because they want to develop their career. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| But then populations drop. | ||
| No, but you still got to do your 2.3 children. | ||
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You have to. | |
| You can do it later. | ||
| My parent, I remember my mom said... | ||
| I'm getting my tubes tied because I've done my duty to the country. | ||
| She had three kids. | ||
| I've done my three kids. | ||
| I'm above average. | ||
| I'm tying that shit up. | ||
| Done with that. | ||
| And that was what you did at the time. | ||
| You got the tubes tied. | ||
| Tubes tied. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And then she's still divorced and had a much happier life without my dad. | ||
| I believe. | ||
| Imagine back in the day when there was no tubes tied, there was no nothing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But Joe, what did we grow up with? | ||
| You could stick your dick in, you're gonna get AIDS. That's what we grew up with. | ||
| What the hell was all that about? | ||
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We were all scared. | |
| And where did that go? | ||
| It went away. | ||
| Yeah, it went away. | ||
| With science. | ||
| Went away with science. | ||
| And voting! | ||
| Isn't it amazing? | ||
| Isn't it amazing how it went away? | ||
| What killed us? | ||
| What do you think happened? | ||
| But wasn't it those protease inhibitors? | ||
| With HIV? That's a whole other show by itself. | ||
| For real? | ||
| Yeah, if you really look, I can give you some books. | ||
| And I've done this, just like I've looked at 9-11, all this stuff. | ||
| There's a lot to it. | ||
| The HIV, and it's Anthony Fauci, it is Dr. Birx, it is Redfield, it's all the same people. | ||
| Is it that anytime there's anything huge, like that's an enormous medical concern, there's also an enormous amount of money involved? | ||
| Is that part of the problem? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that is. | ||
| Well, the whole system... | ||
| In 2008 or 2009, there was a financial conference, JPMorgan, Chase, Goldman Sachs, whatever, and they were talking about the future of medicine and vaccines. | ||
| And everyone was all jacked up about it because vaccines are not regulated the same as every other medication, so you can't be held liable if someone has a problem with your vaccine. | ||
| Now, there are vaccine courts where the government quietly gives you money and you can get some restitution, but if the vaccine is shit, you can't sue the pharmaceutical company. | ||
| So they saw this as a great... | ||
| It's like, holy shit, this is great. | ||
| Thinking from a financial perspective, you're giving people medicine, charging for it, before they're sick. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| So you had vaccines against smoking, addiction, and things that really I don't think fit the actual description of vaccines. | ||
| And now we're at the magical RNA, the mRNA vaccine, which is supposed to not... | ||
| Don't trick your immune system by giving you a piece of the original virus, but to trick your immune system into changing something in your DNA that will reject the virus when it encounters it. | ||
| So that's a little different, and it's not been proven to work. | ||
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Jesus, you're freaking me out, Adam Curry! | |
| It's very mainstream knowledge. | ||
| It's not like this is something new. | ||
| Why does it seem like the next chapter of the horror movie? | ||
| Because that's what it is. | ||
| The virus gets released. | ||
| Everybody's forced to not work. | ||
| Unrest in the streets. | ||
| Murder. | ||
| Racist murder. | ||
| All of a sudden, everything's on fire. | ||
| What always happens? | ||
| Anarchy. | ||
| Here comes fucking Joe and fucking Adam. | ||
| We got our fucking shit strapped on. | ||
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We're like, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. | |
| We're going to save the fucking day. | ||
| I get the mRNA to save the day. | ||
| Bang! | ||
| I have faith in the Republic. | ||
| I'm not worried. | ||
| It doesn't matter who our president is. | ||
| The Republic still has all the tools and the legality to function fine. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I have a preference that's irrelevant. | ||
| The Republic continues to function one way or the other. | ||
| We have the right tools in place. | ||
| It doesn't matter who's president. | ||
| It's not life or death. | ||
| There are shortcuts to a good future. | ||
| That's for other people to determine. | ||
| But we don't have to be worried about shit because... | ||
| America. | ||
| I'm glad you're optimistic. | ||
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I am. | |
| And I think there's a real value in being optimistic. | ||
| I share your optimism. | ||
| I think if you look at human beings from measurable history to today, it's a clear path of doing better. | ||
| It doesn't mean that everything's perfect right now. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| But we gotta look at behavior. | ||
| We gotta look at, like, what do you, do you want someone lighting the building on fire because there's a guy inside that you disagree with who is the most progressive mayor in the fucking country? | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But I'm crazy. | ||
| Progressives, he's like, Not enough! | ||
| Like, not progressive enough. | ||
| This guy is the most progressive guy. | ||
| The mayor of Portland might be the most progressive guy. | ||
| But doesn't that show that we're a little misguided and we just have to stand back and take a look at what's going on? | ||
| I think that they're misidentifying the conflict. | ||
| It's not as simple as... | ||
| I believe this and you believe that and I want to be rational and you want to be right. | ||
| Remember we were talking about how you need some kind of challenge, survival challenge in your life to be a full human being. | ||
| This I think unfortunately is what happens to probably younger people, I'll say 20 to 30. Their challenge has now become this dangerous game of taunting, burning, doing more than just protesting. | ||
| It can start with protesting, but that becomes a lifeblood that you need to have in order to feel like a full human. | ||
| We have our own challenges to feel like we are full humans. | ||
| You have yours, I have mine. | ||
| It's providing for your family and a certain level of success or whatever you're looking for. | ||
| Creating balance, right? | ||
| Creating harmony. | ||
| Happiness. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| In some way. | ||
| It needs the input, but it needs the inputs and results. | ||
| You need something that's hard that's either Physically challenging or mentally challenging or just work intensive or concentration. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this replaces that for a lot of people, I think, who just need something to do. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| And it excites the tribal aspects of our imagination. | ||
| It really does. | ||
| And it's unfortunate that it does that because it forces people to behave. | ||
| And it's really like the conflict has already been established. | ||
| It's already clear conflict. | ||
| It's not as simple as I think one thing, you think a different thing, and you can tell me why you think something, and I can just accept it without a judgment on me as a human being and my intellect. | ||
| And the problem is, if you have something that's opposed or is opposing the ideas I have in my head, I think that you got me. | ||
| You made, you know, you tapped me out. | ||
| You made checkmate. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm like, fuck this guy. | ||
| I'm going to fight this out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so your ego gets involved. | ||
| We need some deprogramming there. | ||
| We need deprogramming specifically in the idea that your ideas equal you. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You should be a thing that thinks. | ||
| And when ideas are presented to you, you should decide, hmm, is that valid? | ||
| Is that good for everybody? | ||
| Is that bad? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Is that poison the drinking water? | ||
| And then move from there. | ||
| But when we look at anything through the lens of ideology, we have these boundaries. | ||
| You can't be a pro-choice Republican. | ||
| I think it's still fear that you want to look over there, but you're almost kind of afraid. | ||
| Like, what if I agree with it? | ||
| We have to find the courage to be less afraid of being open to other things. | ||
| There's a lot more people than anyone really realizes who are... | ||
| Not red or blue or white or black. | ||
| We had these meetups, no agenda meetups. | ||
| And it's just self-organized. | ||
| People get together all over the world. | ||
| Five people, 20 people, sometimes bigger, sometimes smaller. | ||
| And they're from all different ages, backgrounds, colors, religion, race. | ||
| But they know one thing. | ||
| I'm going to be clumsy here and I'm not going to get triggered by any fucking shit you say. | ||
| And we know that agreement is there. | ||
| And even if people are completely opposite, it's like, okay man, good, you want another beer? | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| We can do this. | ||
| It's 100% possible. | ||
| We can do this. | ||
| And this idea that you have to be, you know, everyone has to be in agreement of every single goddamn issue in the world, otherwise you can't connect with them. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| It's bad for all of us. | ||
| I think what we were talking about earlier, that labels should be illegal. | ||
| It's a joke, but it's not. | ||
| No, it's not a joke. | ||
| Really, there's something to it, man. | ||
| There's something to the idea that labels are a real problem with us. | ||
| They're a real problem. | ||
| Because we adhere to those labels, then there's like a checklist of things you need to... | ||
| Oh, I'm on this. | ||
| I'm pro-Second Amendment. | ||
| You have to write all these things down. | ||
| And then you have to like... | ||
| If someone is on the same tribe as you, you have to agree with them about everything politically. | ||
| I think a lot of my views overlap with what someone would call conservative, but I find that an incredible insult if you call me a Republican or even a Libertarian or a Democrat. | ||
| I don't want to be fucking labeled anything. | ||
| I don't need that. | ||
| It's not fair. | ||
| I think the best evidence that this has actually taken place is what's happening right now between the right and the left and how polarized everything is. | ||
| How weirdly polarized... | ||
| Yeah, but is it really... | ||
| I think that everyone's now in agreement Okay, shit's out of control. | ||
| We've got to stop this. | ||
| Whatever's going on in the streets, it's not everywhere, but there's enough of it that it's fucked up. | ||
| We've got to stop it. | ||
| Everyone's in agreement. | ||
| So now both political parties are kind of, you know, the Democratic Party, and they've come in sailing in, okay, yeah, we think this should stop. | ||
| So that, I think it will start to stop. | ||
| This is going to have to happen. | ||
| Well, it's one of two things that's going to happen. | ||
| It's going to stop or it's going to accelerate, right? | ||
| It's all dependent upon what kind of reaction people have to it. | ||
| So whenever you want to take over a society, the best strategy is strategy from above and below. | ||
| So the below right now, let's just say if someone is thinking about this and running this and trying to fuck with us, Below is your on-the-street riots, Black Lives Matter, inequality, whatever people are pissed off about. | ||
| Above is COVID. That's why it's dangerous for us because we have this overall... | ||
| Compounding factors. | ||
| Yeah, overall fear of death. | ||
| Hurricane and an earthquake. | ||
| Death and you don't... | ||
| And an asteroid. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| And an asteroid. | ||
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| I think we both agree that we probably can be okay through this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it's better if we don't freak out. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And we look for possible positive outcomes. | ||
| And that's what I think. | ||
| And it's hard. | ||
| It is hard to do that. | ||
| It's hard to do that. | ||
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| Honestly, I think what I said earlier about controversial people having platforms, I think it's important that people figure it out for themselves. | ||
| You can't trick me with a faith healer. | ||
| Why is it going to trick you? | ||
| Is it going to trick your kids? | ||
| What are you telling your kids? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Isn't the problem that we need to educate people as to what people are capable of lying about? | ||
| Trickery, cults, evangelists, late night TV people trying to get all your money. | ||
| Shouldn't we let them exist and then point to them? | ||
| See that kids? | ||
| That's an alligator. | ||
| That'll eat your dog. | ||
| See that alligator? | ||
| If you walk that alligator by the lake, it'll eat your dog. | ||
| Now, if there's illegality going on within any group or whatever, then you need to process that immediately. | ||
| But it is illegal. | ||
| It should be kind of illegal. | ||
| Like, if you're fucking pretending me, you're talking to Jesus, and you give me an anointed bandana that's going to protect you from any financial... | ||
| No, I don't think that should be illegal. | ||
| No fucking way. | ||
| What do you know? | ||
| What do I know about the bandana? | ||
| The power of the bandana could be very big. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Tom Hanks movie, and it's real. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| Big, something like that. | ||
| Remember Big had like the thing? | ||
| Yeah, of course I know what that was. | ||
| Can you imagine if you were me and I was you for like 24 hours? | ||
| We had to go about our lives. | ||
| What would you do? | ||
| What would be the first thing you did? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Oh, I don't know, man. | ||
| That's really... | ||
| I think I'm probably going to test out what I can do with my jiu-jitsu and all that fucking shit. | ||
| Let me go to the gym for a second. | ||
| Fuck, fuck, back kick, fucking motherfucker. | ||
| Okay, I like this. | ||
| I have to remember this. | ||
| When I get in my old body, I can do that. | ||
| Imagine when that does happen where people can literally become... | ||
| Like, you could put your body in an Olympic gymnast body. | ||
| Yeah, why not? | ||
| That's Elon. | ||
| Ultimately, that's where Elon's going, I'm sure. | ||
| What did you think about the test with the pigs? | ||
| Well, again, I think I love Elon for his... | ||
| Hey, here's my Cybertruck. | ||
| It has bulletproof windows. | ||
| Shatter. | ||
| And then we're like, what the fuck? | ||
| It's fine, man. | ||
| The fucking ball bearing at it. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| I know it'll be great in the final mix. | ||
| We'll fix it all. | ||
| And it's like the pigs. | ||
| The pig doesn't want to come out. | ||
| They're like, boop, boop. | ||
| I know what you're doing. | ||
| I'm good with it. | ||
| I like the idea. | ||
| I'd love to see people who have MS or ALS, Parkinson's, whose brain is not communicating the functions to be able to keep those going because I think that's the initial application and that's fantastic. | ||
| But am I interested in at least... | ||
| Is Jamie sleeping? | ||
| I thought he was snoring. | ||
| I am very interested in the application of direct interfacing. | ||
| I'd like to go, I just want to do my email. | ||
| Like that. | ||
| And everything just happens. | ||
| Because he's right. | ||
| The interface between our brains and the network, the whole community, the world, has actually gone from ten fingers to one or two with our phones. | ||
| I like the idea of upping that bandwidth transfer. | ||
| But I would like to be able to make sure I can turn it off and I have control when I want it. | ||
| Doesn't it sort of go in line with what we were talking about when people have only been talking for a short amount of time? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Before people were talking, it was just grunts and pointing. | ||
| Pictures. | ||
| Trying to figure out how to kill the deer. | ||
| In a way, we're going back. | ||
| We went from emojis on the wall to emojis on text. | ||
| Smiley face, puke emoji, mask emoji. | ||
| Well, you get it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You do get it. | ||
| That's an abstraction of language. | ||
| Someone sends you a yellow fist. | ||
| So that is actually how computer code works. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Computer code is binary. | ||
| You've got an assembler on top of it. | ||
| You've got maybe an interpreter. | ||
| You've got a scripting language. | ||
| And then it's almost English. | ||
| And before you know it, you're just saying this emoji. | ||
| And you put these two emojis together. | ||
| You know exactly what I mean. | ||
| That is crazy, right? | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| It is crazy. | ||
| With the fucking, what is that thing? | ||
| The eggplant. | ||
| The eggplant. | ||
| You know what I mean, Joe Rogan. | ||
| Not answering my text. | ||
| Not answering my eggplant water emoji text. | ||
| There's something about eggplant water emoji. | ||
| That's a bold move. | ||
| Followed by peach. | ||
| Peach emoji. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You could bring that to court and people will be like, I don't see anything wrong here. | ||
| The guy likes fruits and vegetables. | ||
| What is he trying to tell me here? | ||
| He's clearly vegan and likes surfing. | ||
| That's another benefit of the phone, the flip phone. | ||
| I can't really do emojis. | ||
| Not much going on. | ||
| Adam Curry, shall we wrap this up? | ||
| Yeah, Joe Rogan. | ||
| Thank you so much, man. | ||
| Again, welcome to Texas. | ||
| Welcome to Austin. | ||
| You've got yourself a beautiful studio. | ||
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Thank you very much. | |
| We did it. | ||
| We did it. | ||
| Welcome to Texas. | ||
| Thanks, man. | ||
| It's good to be here. | ||
| Welcome to guest number one here at the new place. | ||
| Young Jamie, you're a bad motherfucker. | ||
| You put it together. | ||
| Fuck yeah, Jamie. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| Shout out to Jew T. It's for the desk. | ||
| Matt Alvarez for the place. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| Alright. | ||
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