Bill Maher joins Joe Rogan, joking about the podcast’s "man cave" vibe while critiquing modern comedy’s rushed pacing—his 20-year reliance on bullet-point notes stems from marijuana use impairing memorization. They dissect Marvelous Mrs. Maisel’s decline into formulaic storytelling and debate porn’s shift toward "rapey" dominance, contrasting it with evolutionary biology’s communal sex theories. Maher and Rogan slam political correctness, cancel culture, and alimony’s financial exploitation, citing Janoris Jenkins’ firing and 40,000 monthly obesity deaths as examples of societal hypocrisy. Frustrated by ideological echo chambers over evidence, they call themselves "real progressives" before Maher teases Rogan for a potential mid-show appearance on his January 17 HBO show, dismissing chaotic interruptions as harmless fun. [Automatically generated summary]
That's so funny, because I suggested that a while ago, not with me hosting it, of course, but with somebody else hosting it.
I'll have to ask my manager about that.
I guess we sold it.
I think that's true.
When we moved to ABC, it must be ABC. When we moved to ABC, I think we probably sold them the rights to the show, which was probably stupid, but at the time it made sense.
I mean, there are virtues and vices to both of them.
I mean, I do like being forced to condense.
And for people, I always think of the person watching my show as the person who is interested in current events but doesn't have the time to follow it during the week.
They've got kids and jobs and lives.
They are going to watch me to catch them up.
and And it's my job to obviously entertain them, but also to point out what's important.
What happened this week that you should know about?
Somewhere in that live hour, whether it's in the monologue or in New Rules or the editorial I do at the end or in the panel, somewhere I want to cover everything I think you should know.
It doesn't necessarily mean it's the things that the newspaper does.
Or other outlets thought was important.
What I think is really important, that's what I'm going to cover.
So there is something to be said for condensing.
There's also a lot to be said for letting it breathe.
You know, I mean, letting it breathe, I do miss that sometimes.
I wish I could.
And very often we're in the middle of a discussion and I have to move on.
I was in, you know, it was kind of a low budget thing as far as the people in the cast and crew went because we stayed at the Club Med, which was not, Club Med is not a luxury hotel.
You know what club meds are.
You give up your money, you pay everything in beads, but you don't really need money.
You're going to enjoy the outside.
That's why you're in Mexico.
So the room is monastic, right?
There's no TV, because you're out all day.
You're just going to be in the waves and then you're going to fuck and go to sleep and whatever.
So I had a lot of free time because I wasn't in the shot every day, but I was in Mexico.
Eventually I got fucking cabin fever down there.
You know, I couldn't wait to get home.
But I was there a long time and had nothing to do, and I wrote a lot of the novel there.
I put it away again and then I was in a real career slump in the early 90s.
I had finished with acting mostly.
I didn't want to do that anymore.
I'd done a few sitcoms and I didn't want to be the office creep forever.
So I was just like, nowhere.
And that's when I finished it.
And also, that's like the year I did cocaine.
Which I probably would not have finished it without that.
They do a pretty decent job of capturing, the marvelous Mrs. Maisel does, of capturing the early scene in clubs, of her going up drunk and talking shit, and then people telling her, you could probably do comedy.
It seems chaotic and real, but it gets a little less realistic as time goes on.
I don't know if it's that or if it's that there's an expectation that people have a short attention span so that everything is made for that expectation.
And you have to wonder why a guy who could get laid, even as a married man...
That's obviously a sick kink he had.
But I also know a guy who was a promoter and told incredibly ridiculous stories about things that Bill Cosby did that were not sexual, but just informed me that what his kink is is part of a much larger sickness about control and making people do control.
I hadn't heard that exactly, but it's exactly in line with what I heard, that he would do things like make you, what was one of them, like he would order food and then he would say, you know, scoop out the doughy part of the hamburger bun with After you wash your hands and put it back on the hamburger.
Or once he asked them to send him the soap that he hadn't finished using in the dressing room.
He had a whole routine that he wanted them to follow, and he wanted them to tuck him into bed.
Well, I had a friend who had an interesting take on it, and he said there is something that happens to some famous people, particularly famous people who were famous a long time ago, where they feel like they are better than other people.
There is a giant gap between them and other people, and they feel like they can do things to people.
But the other thing that he was doing in public was he was trying to chastise other comics for using bad words, and he had a lot of weird control issues with that as well.
But my friend's take on it was...
That he thinks that there are people that they get to this position where they think that they're owed things.
And he thought about that sexually, too.
He said he probably felt like he was just so above those women that he didn't even want to negotiate with them.
He just drugged them and fucked them because he's Bill Cosby and they should be happy.
See, that's why I'm saying I'm glad I did this because I don't have to think about, oh, my wardrobe and what I'm going to wear and is Johnny going to like me?
that show was when I started to do it there was such a proliferation of comics you could do that show 30 times and that didn't make me famous I mean it elevated me to a degree
it legitimized you in show business but at one point just doing the Tonight Show once made you a star but part of what True Story is about was the comics frustration that they came along at a time when it wasn't that unique a thing anymore there was too many comics you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a comic
so I have like in my Sirius XM radio in the car the comic stations and I love them I would very often see somebody's name.
I've never heard of this comic.
I'll never see it again.
They play four or five minutes of their routine.
It's very professional.
It's funny.
I'm laughing.
And who is this person?
It just seemed like an innumerable supply of very competent stand-ups who have funny bits about the ketchup bottle.
Yeah, but I'm saying, but that's how I keep sharp, or as sharp as I can be.
Well, also, I gave up on memorization years ago.
First of all, with all the pot I've smoked, it just wasn't going to happen.
I've used what I call the poor man's teleprompter for, oh, it's got to be 20 years, which is I have a music stand on stage, and then I have my notebook, which has my bullet points, and I don't think the audience even notices it after.
Every five minutes, I'm very...
I'm discreetly moving the page.
But that way I don't have to memorize anything.
When I get home from the gig, I go through it.
I redo it in the computer, print it out.
And it's just been the greatest thing because I can get to exactly what I want to say.
So we do Maui on December 30th, and we do New Year's Eve in Honolulu.
And there's always surprises, and this year Sarah Silverman did it, and Bobby Slayton, and we have sometimes some very well-known musicians who join us.
Woody Harrelson is also in Maui, and Plays with us a little bit.
I was thinking recently, people were just rougher.
You know, I mean, you and I, I think, walk the same path very often, talking about we, I think, are progressives, but we have short patience with some of the fragile, woke bullshit.
And some of that is just the way you're brought up.
I think kids are coddled, you know?
I think they're indulged, and that's the reason why they freak out over microaggressions and stuff.
And some of that is just, I was telling someone this story, not apropos of this, just talking about something else, but it just reminded me that here, I'm a kid who had, I think, a normal middle-class upbringing.
I consider it an idyllic time.
I consider it an innocence you couldn't buy today.
First of all, I grew up in New Jersey in the 60s.
There was no racial issues because there was only one race in town.
That's just the way it was.
I'm not saying that's good.
It wasn't.
There weren't racial issues.
There weren't drug issues.
I didn't try pot in high school.
Maybe there was a rumor that a few kids were doing it, but that wasn't even a thing.
There wasn't even any divorce.
It was really the land that time forgot.
You know, it was leave it to beaver land.
And I was telling someone this time, my father, who grew up in the Depression, cheap.
I, you know, love him dearly, but I don't think that's the wrong word.
And sent us to an army friend of his as the dentist.
And this is 1964. I was eight.
And did not use Novocaine.
Ugh!
And I remember vividly, I had like eight cavities that had to be filled.
He said, if it hurts, raise your hand as the drill went into me.
I was like, okay.
So they're drilling into me, and then I'm riding home up this big hill.
It was cold on my bike with the tears freezing on my cheek.
So get to the dentist yourself.
First of all, they wouldn't do that today.
They don't let kids just be on their own.
Like, get your ass to the dentist on your bike, get home after they drill into you with no Novocate.
And I'm saying, I wasn't raised by bad people.
People were just rougher.
It was just a rougher time.
And I wouldn't recommend these things exactly, necessarily, although getting someplace on your own I don't think is the worst thing in the world.
There's also an issue that you don't tell kids about it.
They find out from other kids.
There's no discussion of what it is.
No one in their right mind would ever sit down and watch porn with their son and say, this is what I want you to avoid.
This is why I want you to avoid this.
But it's probably not the worst idea.
There comes a legality issue.
I mean, I don't even think it's legal to watch porn with a 13-year-old kid, but if you have a son and he's 13 and you know he's going to be exposed to these things, you almost have a responsibility to talk him through it and just give him some...
To give some understanding of what is the landscape.
Here's a big one.
Why are these girls doing this?
Okay, here's something that people don't like to admit that enjoy porn.
That's one of the bad things about the internet, is that in the old days, if you were some sort of weirdo pervert, you thought, and the world was better because you thought, that you were completely alone in the world.
Now, whatever your kink is, you could put it on the internet.
You could write, you know, I want a hooker to shit on me while I play with electric trains, and there'll be a thousand people in two minutes who are saying, me too!
But I just don't think that, and that would be my main lesson to an adolescent boy.
Okay, we can't keep the porn away from you.
Just don't think that's the way real women are or what real women like.
I don't think they like Tinder either.
In fact, I watched some documentary.
I can't remember what it was called.
I think it was on HBO about...
Dating on social media.
And that was the main theme of it was women are doing it, young women, but they don't like it.
And it's not surprising they don't like it.
Guys are, of course, wired very differently and they just want to hook up and move on.
I read also an article about it and I think it was in Vanity Fair and the woman says, okay, she did it once, she tried Tinder, she goes to a hotel or meets a guy she had just met over the phone and they fuck and then she said, as I was getting dressed I turned around and he was sitting on the bed looking at Tinder.
It's about how people behave, the polyamorous relationships they had in these primitive cultures before DNA testing and before they understood paternity.
That's really what it was all about.
It was about the community would raise children.
And there was a lot of shared sex in between different people.
Well, when societies get too successful, and you could make that claim about America, that's when they become a feat, and that's when they become soft, and that's when they fall.
This is a story that goes back to ancient Rome and Lots of other societies.
You're a victim of your success.
In a large way, we're that because, yes, people don't – we were just talking about how people were rougher.
No Novocade.
That wasn't even the roughest thing.
We don't know hardship except for that sliver of the country that fights the wars.
Those people know hardship.
Of course, we do have poverty in America, but there's also a fairly substantial safety net.
Those are the people coming from those Central American countries that they always are freaking out about, the Trump administration, because yes...
When gangs rule the country in El Salvador and Honduras, those places, life is precarious and easy to lose.
But I know Steven Pinker's point, which is a great point, is let's not forget that in the last 20, 30 years, The amount of people we've risen out of extreme poverty, the people who used to live on a dollar a day.
It wasn't that long ago when I read this stat, a billion people defecate in the street.
That's where they poop.
That's all improved greatly.
Now, part of the reason why Trump people are upset about jobs and stuff and going overseas, well, that's part of the reason why, is because we lifted out of extreme poverty people all over the world.
But they took those manufacturing jobs.
That's why they're not living in extreme poverty and why they're not pooping in the street, because they're making Trump ties as opposed to somebody in Ohio.
I mean, this is like what we're talking about with us growing up, that life was rougher, and life is easier today, but you have more access to information, so maybe it could be better.
And then things seem to be moving in a better direction in terms of things being safer, less violence, less crime, less rape.
And then people also get upset at you bringing up those statistics.
That's where it's really interesting that Pinker gets attacked for just stating statistical facts.
And he's not making value judgments.
He's just saying, hey, things are, if you look at the overall numbers of things, this is the safest time to be alive ever.
It shouldn't be tied to one party or another party.
And it really should be something that if there's a real problem with communication in this society, one of them is the denial of actual facts and information.
If we know things, we have rock solid statistics, whether it's about climate change, whether it's about war, the budget, whatever the fuck it is, if you have a real number, And you want to spin and deny.
Right, and we don't chase these virtue signalers who are always...
As a friend of mine said, they wake up offended.
And I'm always reading a story.
Like, daily, I read something, and what goes through my mind is, this country now is completely binary.
There's only two camps.
We're totally tribal.
You're either red or blue, liberal or conservative, and everything that one side does That anybody does that represents that side has to be owned by that entire side.
Because people go, well, you're the party of.
So whenever there's something on the left that's cuckoo crazy, We all own it.
And that's one reason why Trump won.
Sure.
Because people, you go through the polling, his fans are not oblivious to his myriad flaws.
What they love about him, what they all say they love is he wasn't politically correct.
It's hard to measure how much people have been choking on that political correctness.
They do not want to walk on eggshells.
They do not want to think that one little misstep and they'll get fired or it'll be castigated.
And these are not just famous people.
I mean, these are just regular people.
And I think when someone reads the kind of stories you see every day, and it's an eye roll, and it's an eye roll at the left, that's when you lose people.
I'll give you an example.
About two weeks ago, the Giants, my football team, the New York football Giants, cut...
Yeah, I don't think he, like, stood – I insist on saying this word.
But, you know, it seems like there's no room anymore for someone just to go, oh, sorry, I didn't realize this was such a thing.
Because, you know, they do move the goalposts often.
And they like to because it's easier to catch people that way.
So how about just, oh, sorry, I guess we don't do this anymore, my bad, and move on with our lives instead of, no, you're canceled, you're cut, you are irredeemable.
Sometimes he says something that I totally do not want a president to say.
But if he wasn't president, like, for example, when he was confronted, may have been by Bill O'Reilly when he was still extant, about Putin killing journalists or something, and Trump said something like, well, we're not so innocent either.
Now, I don't think the President of the United States should say that, but you know who else says that?
Noam Chomsky.
That's like something Noam Chomsky says.
America's guilty of also doing these horrible things.
Well, the team thing is so prevalent that even when he does something militarily, like backs out of a country, you see people on the left criticizing him for not going in.
Or not engaging.
Like, Jesus Christ, you guys are supposed to be the people that always don't want war.
And when someone who's the president does something that's not a move towards war, we should all be saying, yes, please, more of this.
He's got a good thing.
Here's a good thing.
It's not like...
But we want to categorize people as being, like you said, one or zero.
Binary.
Irredeemable.
Like, either chosen or irredeemable.
And you have to be very careful With how you talk or you get labeled in one or two of those categories.
And people are so scared now.
I had a conversation with a friend a while back.
It was a crazy conversation.
It was alcohol involved.
But he said something really ridiculous.
He was saying that maybe it's good that women get so much money in divorce because of all the shit they've been through for men over the years.
And I was like, what does that have to do with money and divorce?
Like, if that's an individual person that's getting money from another individual person, is she collecting?
Is this like reparations for all the horrible things that have happened for women?
And he goes, well, and so he starts getting defensive.
He goes, well, what about income inequality that women have to deal with?
I go, oh, Jesus.
I go, well, you know that's not real, right?
And he goes, what do you mean?
I go, it's not like they have the same jobs.
It's not like both women, the man and a woman are both mailmen.
They both do the same amount of houses, but the man makes a dollar when the woman makes 70 cents.
Well, that's one of the things when people accuse Jordan Peterson of being sexist.
You know, Jordan Peterson literally counseled and coached women how to be more assertive in their jobs to get better raises.
Sure.
It was really explaining how to do this and just even maybe possibly against your better instincts to exert yourself and show that you understand your value.
And this is what men do.
And this is why men get raises.
And oftentimes women just kind of keep it to themselves and they're a little nervous about it.
There's so much to make fun of men's rights guys, but I had one of my comedy specials, I had a bit about it, where they were saying, do you know that men get raped more often than women?
Well, that's a little out there, but I have heard when...
Now, it's going in the other direction because the race is winnowing, but at the point of, say, six months, a year ago, when lots of people were getting into the race, at some point there were 24 Democrats in there, and when a white guy would get in, it was very common to hear, do we need another white guy?
And that was completely okay on the left.
And it's like, okay, but then we are saying...
That we're using race to judge whether someone is qualified.
It's the dumbest form of identity politics and it's really ridiculously dumb when they don't realize that that same sort of strategy is going to come right back around at you.
It's like people that think, oh that guy's pissing me off, I'm going to go fucking punch him.
Well guess what, he's going to punch you back.
It's not that simple.
If you go around judging people based on their gender and their color and their race, guess what?
I just want to know how we got to this place where, you know, first of all, this idea that you have to live in the style of which you've become accustomed?
And I've had friends that have gotten divorced, and even though they had come to an agreement with the ex, like, let's listen to this, and you'll get this, and I'll get this, fine.
Then the lawyers jump in, he's trying to fuck you, and they're trying to fuck you over, you deserve more.
I was, again, at the beginning, because it was about...
An actress and a theater director, and I was like, Jesus fucking Christ, can't you at least pretend that there are people in America not outside of your exact circle?
There have been so many big movies, you know, that are just about your world of show business.
Have a little creativity, make them something else.
But okay, I got over that.
And then it's just a terrific movie about, there's no bells and whistles.
It's just, we're married, we seem very happy, and And then, well, we're not happy, and we're going to get divorced, and then we're going to just do it amicably and not get lawyers involved, and then it all falls apart.
And once it goes down that path that you're talking about, it just becomes as vicious as anything without guns.
Every time somebody says, you know, people unfortunately get a horrible disease like cancer, and they say, I couldn't have gotten through it without my wife.
I always think, yeah, and maybe she gave it to you.
I don't mean, of course, literally, but I just mean that when you're in a bad relationship, the stress, we don't know what contributes all the things to cancer, but that certainly is, I'm sure, one of them.
And then going through a divorce like that, I've seen people, like you say, just broken.
The reason why the divorce laws are set up the way they're set up, people think, oh, we're protecting women.
Horseshit.
They're doing it so that they can extract the maximum amount of money out of the mail.
That way, the lawyer gets the biggest chunk that they could possibly get.
Most lawyers, they're working on a percentage basis.
Especially if a woman doesn't have as much money, or if the lawyer will come to her, look, we've got a deal here, we'll figure this out, don't pay me now, we're going to make sure we get you the most, we'll take care of it all in the end.
And this is what has happened to several of my friends that have been divorced.
And you know what it is once you see it.
What I get and I understand and I accept and I support is child support.
I mean, I grew up with a deadbeat dad.
My dad never paid for shit.
And I have many friends that have also experienced a lot of financial hardship growing up because their dad was a piece of shit and didn't want to pay for their children.
People are very close to me, including my wife.
There's a big difference between that a man taking responsibility for his children It's a big difference between that and alimony alimony is creepy There's something creepy about like my friend like I said didn't even have a child with this woman He is still paying her by the way.
This is the same guy very good friend of mine has been divorced for 14 years has been married For 12 to a new woman.
Still paying the old woman.
And my joke was like, you fucked her so hard she can't work.
I think it's a scam that's set up because the men in general are in control of the finances or make more money and they can extract more money from them that way.
If the board was like here, it would be a fucking billion scratches on one side and four lines and the one through it and then next to it is like Tom Arnold.
Well, but that's putting a level of logic into it that's probably not going to really obtain when the moment comes because by that time you're so codependent.
But it also, you know, I remember you, it's funny you mentioned Tom Arnold.
I had him on the very first episode of Politically Incorrect, I think with Roseanne.
And they were talking about marriage and he said, the great thing about marriage is when you have a big fight and somebody says, I'm leaving, you can go, you can't, we're married.
And I got what he was saying.
Some people like that, that you have this self-imposed barrier that- Makes it more difficult.
It's like a waiting period with guns.
Or when they make you look at the sonogram when you want an abortion in some states, look at your fucking baby on the computer screen there and come back tomorrow and tell me you want to kill that kid.
You have a waiting period.
You have to cool off.
You can't just leave.
Whereas if you're not married, you can.
Unless you live together, that's more complicated, or kids are more complicated.
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The other one we got on the board is Kevin Federline.
Yeah, but when you stick to cities, which we do, you know, we're not playing theaters in the sticks.
It doesn't matter what state you're in.
You're always going to be and get a liberal audience.
Look at the election map every year.
There's a lot of red, but any place there's a city, it's a blue dot, especially if they have a college town.
I played Birmingham, Alabama.
It looks like any place else, at least the crowd coming to my show.
I think it was Birmingham.
It was somewhere in Alabama.
It must have been either Birmingham or Mobile.
And there was a bass fishing thing.
Contest or award show, tournament, something going on.
Like at the same time as my show, or maybe my show was starting and it was letting out, but there was this, I was driving up to theaters, long crowd of people coming to my show who looked like, dressed like anywhere else, normal.
And then on the other side of the street going the other way, a bunch of people in flannel shirts and trucker hats.
And it couldn't have been a more obvious example of two Americas.
Yeah.
But within the city of Birmingham, Alabama.
But it's still a city.
And, you know, we see that electorally, the divide.
Trump does super well among people who never left the town they were born in, rural people, people out in the sticks, and does terrible in the cities and now much more increasingly in the suburbs.
The suburbs are the swing vote.
The suburbs, last time in 2016, there was a lot of people in the suburbs who don't follow politics that closely, and they just said, boy, things suck in America.
Let's let the dog drive for a while.
Let's see what happens.
Let's let the dog drive.
Let's see what happens.
He's a businessman.
He must know how to run the economy and all this stuff.
We'll try something new.
Those people, I think, first of all, a lot of them have peeled away already.
Those are the gettable voters.
Those are the people, if the Democrats want to win, I think that they have to target.
And they already have.
But that's why it's so risky to run someone far left.
I think if you run Amy Klobuchar, as much as people say, oh, she's, you know, dull and she's this and she's that and no one's excited.
Yeah, but again, binary.
At the end of the day, when there's only two choices, Trump or her, I think it would be very hard for her to get the nomination.
I think as far as winning the election, I think she would do it fairly easily.
Obama, when he did health care, said, yes, if we were starting from scratch...
It would make sense to go for a single-payer system.
But we're not starting from scratch.
We're starting from a system where most people already have health insurance through their employer.
It's a crazy story how that happened.
It was World War II and they couldn't raise wages because that was the law, so they had to find a way to give employers something else, so they gave them health insurance.
But that's what we have now.
And a lot of people like it or say they like it.
I don't think a lot of people like arguing with their insurance company.
But they're afraid of something worse.
And I don't blame them.
If you're going to tell me the government, and I'm a Democrat, but if you're going to tell me the government is going to smoothly handle taking over something that large, I am going to be a little skeptical.
Look, again, as an old-school progressive, when you go down the list of things that the progressives have accomplished, especially in my lifetime, I cheer them all.
Social Security, well, that wasn't my lifetime, but they improved it in my lifetime.
Medicare, Medicaid, these are great programs.
I mean, before Social Security, the senior poverty rate was like in the 28% or something, and then it went down below 10. It was a success.
But when you look at what the government really, what their big successes have amounted to, it's passing out money that very often they don't have.
That's what they're really good at.
Running a giant healthcare system, especially when the politicians who are proposing these systems will not, A, talk enough about, we've got to cap the gouging.
You can't pass out all this money if you're going to allow people, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies to charge anything they want, when the price of an EpiPen can go up from $12 to $1,200 overnight.
That just can't happen.
And also, they don't ask the people to lift a finger to take care of their own health.
Nobody's health care system is going to work unless people have some skin in the game.
You can't not tell the people, look, you can't keep eating as much as you want and as shitty a food as you want and expect us to cover the bill.
And when we get apoplectic when there's 50 deaths from shootings or something a month, yeah, it's very bad and we should be serious about that problem.
But 50 versus 40,000 every month?
And that's just what they're counting from...
The big ones, cancer, diabetes, and heart disease.
There's literally nothing about your health that is improved by being overweight.
So, you know, I said we shouldn't taunt people.
But, you know, compare it to anything else.
I also owned up to the fact that I used to drink too much and I smoked.
But I didn't defend it.
When someone said, you know, you went kind of hard last night with the drinking, I didn't say, how dare you drunk shame me.
He literally lost an opportunity to save lives, because as someone who does struggle with weight, He could have taken the opposite approach and said, you know, Bill makes a really good point.
And we should look at how we are dealing with this.
Well, when heavy people have someone that they're a fan of that's also heavy, like James Corden, so he's heavy, he's got people in the audience that love him, and they love him standing up for other heavy people.
Yeah, we're fine!
We're fine!
He's one of us!
We're fine!
I think they felt like that with Adele.
Adele was this fantastic singer, super talented, extremely popular and overweight.
Like, yeah, it's fine.
It's fine.
I'm like Adele.
Everyone's fine.
But then she loses weight.
You feel like she's betraying you because one of the reasons why I liked you is because you're fat.
My take on this is just that there's too many voices that you hear because of social media.
You hear so many nonsense voices and they stand out just like everybody else's voice.
There's so many people just screaming into the void because there's so many social media accounts.
There's so many people that are tweeting about things and Facebooking about things and it gets people confused as if this is like a rational perspective.
And again, with these echo chambers, they're all just hop on board and support James Corden or support, you know, Adele needs to fatten back up and you'll get thousands of likes.
We had a billboard once when we were coming back on the air in January, just like now, about four or five years ago, and the tagline was, he's not in it for the likes.
And it's my favorite piece of promotion that anyone has ever done for me.
And then there's a bunch of them liking that response and then a bunch of people piling on.
First of all, they don't even know you're a real human.
A lot of people have never met anyone famous.
And a lot of them are 15. I always say that if I had a Twitter account when I was 15, I would have said horrible shit to famous people just to get a rise.
Just to see if I can get them to react.
It's not even things that they necessarily mean.
They don't know you.
Unless they meet you, they don't even really know you.
It's like if you're going to write something in a book and publish that book and you're going to carefully consider every word and then you put that book out and you go, okay, we've gone over it, we've edited it.
If you engage and defend yourself and correct the record, then you make it worse.
So you're in this sort of purgatory where if you hear things that are not true, you also cannot say anything about it.
That's an unfair place to be.
And also, is everything a hanging offense?
My problem...
With some of the Me Too stuff, and of course, I think like every right-thinking person, it was a great thing that happened, that men have been put on notice that you're playing with five fouls, and you just can't get away with a lot of the shit you use.
That time in Aspen, he was with the third wife or something, and I seem to remember.
But he's being sued for giving people AIDS. I mean, there's just this litany of things that are way worse than whacking off in front of people, which is not cool either, of course.
But Louis did apologize and own up to it, and I just think, where is the consistency?
Now, I also read, but I don't know if it's true, if his management, I think, threatened women who were going to talk about this or prevented someone's career from moving because of this.