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Oct. 2, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1359 - Roseanne Barr
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roseanne barr
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unidentified
No.
roseanne barr
Well, Joe, it's so great to see you.
joe rogan
Great to see you, too.
I love the sunglasses.
roseanne barr
Aren't they the coolest?
joe rogan
They're perfect.
roseanne barr
Okay, I thought I was getting the coolest ones, but then my friends who were shopping with me, they came running back and they were like, uh-uh, uh-uh, don't pay yet, don't pay yet.
Honey, take a look at these.
And I looked, and there's a separation between the frame.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
See, you want to look?
joe rogan
Okay.
roseanne barr
I did my own eye makeup, so it's a mess.
I couldn't get anybody to fix my makeup today.
joe rogan
What's the benefit of the separation?
roseanne barr
Fucking art!
joe rogan
Just looks dope.
roseanne barr
Fuck yeah!
joe rogan
I get it.
roseanne barr
You got a little bit of brow peeping through.
joe rogan
I see.
roseanne barr
See?
joe rogan
I like them a lot.
They're very cool.
roseanne barr
And look at the pink or flesh or whatever you call this.
That's my color.
joe rogan
I like the bracelet too.
The pink one?
That's jamming.
unidentified
The pink one.
joe rogan
It's pretty dope.
roseanne barr
I've had it for a long, long time.
Like Phyllis Diller, I just collect weird costumes, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
And just wear them in the house.
But I decided to start wearing them out more now.
joe rogan
I like it.
roseanne barr
Yeah, it's fun.
joe rogan
It works.
You can pull it off for sure.
roseanne barr
I like the hair now too.
joe rogan
You're all blonde now.
roseanne barr
Hells yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're all Debbie Harry.
roseanne barr
I'm all going rock star now.
Because I'm like, okay, well, you know, whatever.
Okay.
Nothing can ever stop me because I'm a comic, right?
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
Nothing can stop us.
joe rogan
Nothing.
roseanne barr
Because we have some fucking weird DNA bend that we just have to get the fucking last laugh, right?
We have to get the laugh.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
And so I have to.
joe rogan
I'm just glad you're back to stand-up, too.
I'm really, really excited about that.
roseanne barr
I don't know about that.
It wasn't sparking joy, as that woman says.
She says, if you're doing anything in your life that is not sparking joy, then fuck it.
joe rogan
Who said that?
roseanne barr
That lady that tells you to throw out your clothes that don't spark joy.
joe rogan
Oh, is she like a minimalist lady?
roseanne barr
I don't know.
She's on the internet.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
roseanne barr
She's really helped me because I'm a hoarder.
joe rogan
Yeah, me too, a little bit.
roseanne barr
Are you?
joe rogan
I've got a lot of knick-knacks and stuff that I save.
But were you saying that stand-up wasn't sparking joy?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
When was this?
roseanne barr
It wasn't sparking joy.
joe rogan
In the past?
roseanne barr
Yeah, in the last few, you know, in a while.
Because I'm so nervous.
It's like, oh my God.
I get so nervous because I don't really know...
I don't really know anymore, you know?
The funny moved.
joe rogan
I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
It does.
roseanne barr
And like I was saying, I need a line, one killer line, one killer opening line that encapsulates the entire year I've just lived through.
joe rogan
Right, right.
roseanne barr
I need that kind of a line or it's not going to work for me, you know?
Because everybody knows something happened.
joe rogan
Sure, yeah.
roseanne barr
And I just don't talk about it that much besides calling everybody a bitch and shit, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you ever work with writers?
unidentified
Me?
joe rogan
Like stand-up writers?
Yeah.
roseanne barr
No, I want to, but all my friends are dead.
Co-writing comic friends are dead.
I'm sure we can connect you to somebody.
Or they moved to Israel and became Chabad.
joe rogan
You know who would be great?
roseanne barr
Who?
joe rogan
Tony Hinchcliffe.
roseanne barr
Who's that?
joe rogan
He's hilarious.
roseanne barr
How old?
joe rogan
He's a great comic.
He's 36?
roseanne barr
Oh, that's a good age.
joe rogan
35?
36?
roseanne barr
That's a good age.
joe rogan
Oh, he's really funny.
roseanne barr
Really?
He sees things weird?
joe rogan
Fantastic joke writer, and he writes for Roasts all the time.
He's a big roast writer.
roseanne barr
Oh, Roasts are the best jokes.
Oh, I love roast jokes.
joe rogan
I would love to connect you with him.
roseanne barr
I would love that if you would.
joe rogan
And help you coalesce your thoughts.
roseanne barr
You know, the comics that like me, you know, Push this mic up to you.
joe rogan
A little closer to you.
There we go.
roseanne barr
The comics that like me.
joe rogan
Everybody likes you.
roseanne barr
Well, I know that.
joe rogan
Comics do.
roseanne barr
Yeah, the comics.
Well, some don't like me.
joe rogan
Well, they're silly.
roseanne barr
Yeah, well, some's bitches and they're looking for a fucking smackdown.
joe rogan
I say this every podcast.
roseanne barr
And believe me, when the day comes, they will get their fucking smackdown from me, Joe.
joe rogan
I believe you.
roseanne barr
And it will not be like no smackdown they've ever had before in their privileged fucking little lives.
unidentified
Yeah.
roseanne barr
This will be, you're going to raise your kids on welfare when I'm done with your ass.
unidentified
Whoa!
roseanne barr
Kind of thing, because I was raised on welfare.
joe rogan
I was as well.
roseanne barr
Were you?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, until we were like 13, 14. Did you get the government cheese?
roseanne barr
We did.
joe rogan
We didn't get the government cheese.
roseanne barr
My dad used to take that whole five-pound brick of cheese.
You know, my dad was the greatest comic.
joe rogan
Really?
roseanne barr
Yeah, but crazy, like never knowing when to stop because it stops being funny at a certain point.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
But keep pushing it and pushing it until somebody slaps you down.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
It's that DNA thing that comics have.
It's bad.
joe rogan
It is bad.
roseanne barr
Like my friend Sue Mengers, remember her, Joe?
joe rogan
Sue Mengers, I do know the name.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
Well, she was in that kindersport, whatever it was, where they moved these Jewish children from Germany to England, kindersport or something, to save them.
And she was one of those.
And her dad was a comic in Germany.
And it's just so weird how things go round and round, and we'll get to what we're going to talk about today.
But her dad was a comic in Germany, you know, real funny, real popular.
And Hitler came and took over, and he kept on telling the jokes, you know.
He was telling the jokes wherever he went, every little club doing the jokes.
And he was warned, don't, you know, switch up your joke, man.
If you want to keep working, switch that joke up to be, you know, not what you're saying.
Yeah.
And he wouldn't do it.
And she said he even got louder and he was arrested and, of course, murdered in Auschwitz, but she lived.
And I said, what would you say to your dad now?
She said, you know, at a certain point it fucking stops being funny.
Do something different, you know.
Don't write it to the destructo.
Don't go all the fucking else way over, you know.
Try staying in the middle.
Don't destruct yourself for comedy.
joe rogan
Isn't that the problem with some comics?
We don't really know where the line is until you cross it.
And then you go, oh, I fucked up.
I crossed the line.
But you're just trying to be funny.
And that's something that I think that non-comics don't really understand.
When a comic fucks up, makes a mistake, they're just trying to be funny.
They're not trying to be mean.
And they just missed.
They missed.
And it happens all the time because you're...
You're ad-libbing.
You're basically improvising.
And that's a lot of what comedy is, is improvising a line and trying to say something.
And in the moment, you might think it's funny, but if you had more time to think about it, you might have said, I shouldn't say it that way.
People are going to get it wrong.
Or maybe I should re-correct myself.
But...
roseanne barr
But that's when you start being not funny, because self-censorship, that's how they want us to be.
They want us to always be like, should I say this or shouldn't I say this?
And just like her dad there in Germany, should I say this or should I say that?
Or instead of, I guess, the more intelligent of us go, how can I... Say this and reach people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Because, you know, the people are thinking just like you because they're people too.
But we're not ruled by people.
Let's really get into it now.
joe rogan
Okay, let's get into it.
Who are we ruled by?
roseanne barr
Artificial intelligence.
joe rogan
Already?
roseanne barr
Uh-huh.
Shit.
It's been an experiment for almost 700 years.
joe rogan
700 years?
roseanne barr
Yeah, more.
Did you see today, Joe, it was the biggest news I've ever seen in my life.
And I didn't get a chance to vet it.
Okay, I'm not going to say it, but I did see it.
unidentified
Please say it.
joe rogan
We'll vet it ourselves on the show.
roseanne barr
Okay, I saw a lot of these Christians out there, I mean, they're really connected in with the whole Q thing.
Have you noticed that?
joe rogan
Q and on?
Is that what you're saying?
Just Q. What is Q? 17. Can you explain it to people?
What does that mean?
17. 17, like the letter Q? Uh-huh.
roseanne barr
And that means eight, and then you reduce that down to two and reduce it to one.
You know, it's a mystical thing.
joe rogan
Oh, so it's like a numerology type thing?
roseanne barr
Yeah, everything's numbers.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
And everything is like appreciating the numbers, and that's why I told you there's this whole process to smoking a cigar.
You don't just go like this.
You have to sense it, smell it, hold it.
I believe I'll have a light now, Joe.
joe rogan
Okay, here you go.
roseanne barr
Thank you.
Dang, I love cigars.
joe rogan
No one's going to get mad at me for giving you a cigar, are they?
roseanne barr
No.
joe rogan
No?
You're okay with that?
roseanne barr
Yeah, because you don't inhale.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
There you go.
roseanne barr
I just can't do cigarettes.
But I'm going to start on cigars because they last a hell of a lot longer than a cigarette.
And they never go out.
You smoke about half of one per day.
joe rogan
When did you stop with the cigarettes?
Because last time you were here you were chain smoking.
roseanne barr
I was smoking three packs.
joe rogan
You were smoking three packs a day?
And this was right after all the bullshit went down?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
I needed a smokescreen between myself and the world.
That's what my psychic counselor said.
joe rogan
You have a psychic counselor?
roseanne barr
Well, it's my daughter, but she's a psychic counselor.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
No worries.
roseanne barr
So they say shit like that, the youth.
See, they're on another wavelength.
joe rogan
That's a good idea, though, to have a smokescreen.
Or glasses.
Glasses kind of feel like that to me sometimes.
If I have sunglasses on, I feel like I can maneuver through crowds better.
roseanne barr
Of course you can, because you're protecting your eyeballs, because everything goes through your eyes.
Like those things, those worms that they got now, they go right through your eyes.
You know what I'm talking about, right?
joe rogan
Oh, Jamie does.
unidentified
Do you?
joe rogan
He's all about eyeball worms.
roseanne barr
Let's see how schooled you are in this shit.
joe rogan
Well, let's go back to the 700-year AI thing first.
I don't want to lose that.
We've been ruled by artificial intelligence for 700 years?
roseanne barr
Probably longer.
joe rogan
Is this like alien shit?
roseanne barr
Since the days of Babylonia.
Well, it's Babylon.
It's all Babylon.
Babylon.
Chant down Babylon, you know?
joe rogan
It's Babylon.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's like Iraq, right?
Sumer, Mesopotamia, that whole part of the world?
roseanne barr
Well, it's not really part of the world so much as it's part of the brain and the memory now.
joe rogan
Where was Babylon, though?
roseanne barr
Because it's changed now.
joe rogan
Was it?
roseanne barr
It's over there somewhere.
In the Bible, as they say.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
It's in the Bible.
joe rogan
I just don't exactly know what part of the world.
roseanne barr
It's the Middle East.
joe rogan
Iraq?
Okay.
Yeah.
roseanne barr
And Iran.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
What a crazy part of the world.
You know, I mean, what an amazing history that part of the world has.
roseanne barr
And still is having.
joe rogan
It's such a shame.
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Still is having.
As per my tweet, which was mischaracterized by people of low intellect is what I'm saying now instead of fucking idiot motherfuckers.
I don't say that anymore.
Now I say those of lower intellect is, I think.
joe rogan
You know what I think big part of what's going on?
roseanne barr
It was about Iran and the people's spite in Iran of which I'm so...
I'm thrilled and supportive for the people, the working people of Iran who want to overthrow their ruling class mullahs who, you know, control the way they think, do and say in every aspect, particularly for women.
And that's getting ready to go.
And I hope Trump helps push that a little bit further, too, because everybody wants freedom now.
From Hong Kong to Tehran.
joe rogan
The Hong Kong riots are insane.
roseanne barr
It's incredible.
I can't believe what's going on.
The strength of the human spirit.
It blows me away.
joe rogan
Well, they've been rioting for so long now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it's not slowing down at all.
17 weeks of rioting.
That is crazy.
unidentified
17. Everything's 17. Everything's 17?
roseanne barr
You'll find out sooner.
It's just in the airline.
So is 11. Did you ever notice that about 11?
Every time you look at your clock, it's something 11. Right.
unidentified
A lot of people.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
roseanne barr
I don't know.
It just is.
I don't know what it means.
Just look at my watch and it's always like, more times than not, something 11. What does it mean to you though?
Just that, hey, there's that shit again.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Something's going on.
Just like a reminder.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
That there's a pattern to this.
roseanne barr
I don't know.
It's just there again.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
There it is.
It's like something synchronicitous.
joe rogan
Synchronicitous is a great word.
unidentified
I hope it is.
roseanne barr
Synchronicitous.
joe rogan
It is now.
Put it in the dictionary, urban dictionary.
roseanne barr
Trademark that.
joe rogan
That's the beautiful thing about urban dictionary, right?
You can just make up new words.
unidentified
God, I love it.
roseanne barr
And I love making up words.
joe rogan
Me too.
I never have, though.
I don't think I made one up, but I like it when other people do.
I've fucked words up before, but I never stuck with them.
Synchronicitous?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's legit.
roseanne barr
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
roseanne barr
Thank you.
That means a lot to me.
joe rogan
So, 700 years of us being controlled by...
roseanne barr
The Babylon thing, the whole descent of Babylon, which itself is artificial intelligence, and the Tower of Babel, which is the Tower of Artificial Intelligence, where everybody was trying to go higher and higher in the pyramid and the hierarchy.
Where there's only like a certain percentage of people at the top and billions at the bottom in chains, you know, that pyramid.
I mean, it's getting over.
It's tipped now.
It's over.
It's not going to work anymore because people got too damn smart.
And goddamn, I shouldn't say goddamn.
joe rogan
You can say it.
Say goddamn.
roseanne barr
Goddamn.
Smart.
And I'm so proud of them because, like, keep going, keep going, don't let nothing stop you.
This is the first time in the human history, and this guy told me this once.
I have talked to the most interesting people I've ever lived.
This guy, he was the one that wired all of Mexico for Ted Turner, some shit.
Some old, big old parties I used to go to before I stayed too long.
At first, they're fun.
unidentified
But anyways...
roseanne barr
But anyways, I forgot what I was saying.
Oh yeah, he said, we put these satellites, this is the age of miracles, messages bouncing off satellites and appearing in billions of places at once faster than the speed of light.
And that this would engender a new...
What do they call it?
Renaissance in art and everything that, you know, when art gets fucking cool, everything gets cool.
Buildings, commerce, everything gets creative.
And it's just a creative, creative time is coming from after this particular time of like a deadening or something where we didn't think.
But now they can't hold it down.
This is the first time in history, I said to him, It seems to me like this might be the first time in history where no church or state can keep the facts from the people.
joe rogan
That is true.
roseanne barr
And he said, yeah, that's true.
joe rogan
That does feel like this.
roseanne barr
And I mean, that's going to create the most coolest shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Like cars that'll fly or something.
I don't know how it will manifest, but it's high thinking and it's good.
And the more we see the rot at the bottom, which is everywhere now, You just got to keep looking up.
Just keep looking up.
Don't look down when you're on that tightrope.
That's what they say.
Never look down when you're walking a tightrope.
Just keep looking forward and up a little bit.
Forward and up.
You know?
And just keep going.
It's tough for people right now.
Whew!
And I know people are getting censored and what the hell, you know?
What are we going to do about it?
You wanted to talk about that.
It's terrible.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
And we were, as we got here, Jamie was informing me that there's some new YouTube policy that is saying, what was the descriptions of our podcast?
jamie vernon
Number 1357 got a human review with harmful or dangerous acts.
joe rogan
Hmm.
unidentified
What was the subject?
joe rogan
Do you remember what we talked about?
We probably joked around about harmful or dangerous acts.
unidentified
Yeah, so I mean, it's disgusting, but I think...
jamie vernon
I think that they're saying it's in the video of it.
Like they're saying, is this in your video?
And I would say no.
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
It's just discussing it.
jamie vernon
So I don't know.
joe rogan
So can we appeal that or is that it?
roseanne barr
Maybe they want to open a dialogue.
Oh, that's it?
joe rogan
That's it.
jamie vernon
It's being appealed through a deeper process right now and we'll wait to see what they say.
This is a very new thing that just happened within the last two weeks on YouTube, and we're probably one of the first channels to get it.
joe rogan
Have we had one of our guys look at the video to see if they can find something that they think is harmful?
roseanne barr
Yeah, you should research and find out what exactly...
jamie vernon
It was broken into clips and put on the clips channel, and those were all allowed.
joe rogan
Okay.
So I don't know.
unidentified
If it was a different person that looked at it.
joe rogan
A different person probably.
So it's subjective then maybe.
roseanne barr
I have to say I'm rather staggered at what they allow and don't allow.
I am so glad I'm fucking old because I'll be passing away from this fucking realm soon enough.
Please, God.
Nothing makes any fucking sense.
joe rogan
It doesn't make sense, but I think it's fascinating.
It's interesting to watch all these different people scrambling for control.
roseanne barr
Is that what they're doing?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're scrambling for control.
They want to control the way people communicate.
And they also want to make a profit.
See, part of this is they're incentivizing people to do shows that they can profit off of.
So if you have a show that has no bad language, if you have a show that has no controversial topics, those shows are more appealing to advertisers.
So for them, as a business, they'll look at someone like me and say, well, this is a limited advertiser option.
But I just think they're looking at it incorrectly.
If you looked at the popularity of it, you'd say, well, there's a lot of people that are paying attention to this.
Just find the right ads.
Find ads for, I don't know, find ads for shit that's a little bit more risky.
I don't know what that would be.
Corvettes, whiskey, I don't know.
Whatever the fuck you want to sell.
But it's not like we're not saying dangerous things like encouraging people to do harmful things or asking people to do illegal things.
roseanne barr
We're just people talking.
You must have done something.
Maybe you don't realize it.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think what it's more like is they've got very rigid ideas of what is or is not suitable for advertising.
And maybe this is coming down from the ad executives, maybe this is coming down from the people that are at the top that have a much more progressive stance on things, what you'd call progressive.
I would say like hard left, like a more hard left stance.
roseanne barr
You mean censors?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
And they think it's okay.
There's a lot of people that are getting censored that are not just people that are on the right, which I'm not on the right, but people that are...
In the middle?
I'm certainly more in the middle.
I just came from a gun range.
roseanne barr
Check it out.
That's who's getting it.
That's who's getting the acts are people in the middle because it is a war between those two far right and far left factions.
joe rogan
And they're so similar.
roseanne barr
To control labor.
joe rogan
Well, they control the way people communicate and talk, too.
It's just people like controlling people.
It's a natural thing.
People want other people to comply.
When you see all these riots and these protests where people are screaming at each other, they want power.
I mean, whether it makes any sense or not, it's not like these people are in a position to actually do anything with that power, but they want people to comply.
When they're yelling at someone, they want people to decide that this person's good or this person's bad or they're right or they're wrong.
I mean, this is what a lot of it is.
It's a psychological game.
it's just a it's a social experiment i don't know if it's an experiment but it's the whole country is an experiment in self-government right and this is an experiment in self-expression because this is the first time that anyone like uh sally montgomery whatever and pick a name this lady can start a youtube channel and make a lot of sense start talking some shit and be funny
and all of a sudden she's got 20 million subscribers and she's making a ton of loot but maybe she starts talking shit about things and And maybe Sally likes to joke around about certain things and they'll just decide, well, this is not suitable for advertising or this is dangerous or harmful.
And what people decide is harmful and isn't harmful, the problem is this is not First Amendment, right?
In their defense, they're not keeping me from saying these things, but they're incentivizing you to not say these things by costing you money.
Now the question is, are they doing this because they just want to maximize their profits, and this is just how the deals that they have with advertisers, or are they doing it because of their personal views on what you're saying?
And that's where things get squirrely, right?
When a person tells you personally, Roseanne, I don't like the way you talk about The country or about liberals or about this or about that.
So we're going to try to silence your voice.
There's a lot of that happening too, whether people like it or not.
roseanne barr
Yeah, there has been for a really long time.
joe rogan
But there's also a lot of left-wing journalists that are getting silenced.
There's a lot of people that are independent journalists that are getting pushed out.
It's like Tulsi Gabbard, she's a liberal, she's a Democrat, but she's also served overseas, two deployments, and she's a six-year veteran, more than a six-year veteran, a six-year congresswoman.
She's getting censored.
She's suing Google.
So they're not just going after people that are on the right.
Obviously, she's on the left.
She's running as a Democratic candidate for president.
She's suing them because they censored her search results.
Allegedly.
I don't know enough about all that.
There's no way I could.
roseanne barr
Well, they also hold people's numbers of followers down.
They can flip a switch and you lose followers.
joe rogan
Yeah, they can shadow ban you.
roseanne barr
Yeah, everybody's shadow.
Everyone I know is shadow banned, so what?
Well, Santino actually had a conversation.
Are people doing it for the advertising money?
That's what I ask myself.
I don't make a dime, and I've been at it for 20 years.
I mean, I don't make a dime.
In fact, every time I open my mouth, I cost myself some money.
joe rogan
You mean on social media?
Yeah.
roseanne barr
And so, of course, I won't be on there anymore.
joe rogan
Roseanne, you need a goddamn podcast.
roseanne barr
I know, Joe, I'm trying to get it, but people do not know what to tell me what to do.
joe rogan
Well, I can help you.
roseanne barr
I told you, I need someone to tell me what to do.
joe rogan
You're in the right place.
roseanne barr
Because I really need to tell people what's going on and they don't even know.
But I know because I did the reading for them.
And I mean, this is all just a social experiment to see how far they can push us.
joe rogan
Let's make that happen.
roseanne barr
Away from each other.
And away from any kind of possible power we could have to coalesce and go, wait a minute, you guys are not going to take any more of our money for your fucking travels.
Hey, bitch.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Bitch.
Uh-uh.
roseanne barr
No.
You can't.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
roseanne barr
No.
It was not in the public sphere.
When she said it was in the public sphere.
joe rogan
Who was she?
roseanne barr
Nancy.
joe rogan
Nancy Pelosi?
Oh.
roseanne barr
It was not in the public sphere.
joe rogan
Goddamn Nancy.
roseanne barr
Oh, Nancy.
joe rogan
What did she do?
roseanne barr
Nancy is on my last nerve.
unidentified
What did she do?
roseanne barr
I've been saying it for 10 years, too.
Nancy, you're on my last nerve.
You've got a lot to answer for.
In San Francisco, what you have allowed on the streets there to the homeless people.
It's disgusting.
I go up there and I am disgusted.
joe rogan
It's crazy right now.
I don't think most people know how bad it is.
roseanne barr
People are living in shit and filth.
Their children around drug addicts dying in the fucking streets of the richest financial district on the West Coast.
Where's that money going?
I And then Laura Loomer went up to Nancy's Vineyard trying to find her.
It's like, if you guys don't get yet that it don't matter who the president is, it's all a fucking scam to put public money into private pockets and nothing else.
You're being robbed and nothing else.
And they're both doing it.
Both parties, both sides, both up and down.
It's about the American people.
We have got to go to Washington.
You know that movie Mr. Smith?
I think about we all need to be Mr. Smith and all go to Washington.
It's like this is our government and that is our tax money.
And it will be audited as Trump has promised.
And as long as President Trump continues to make the moves to keep that promise to us, I will be supportive of him because that needs to happen.
The Federal Reserve must be audited.
And we have to thank President Trump for going in that direction.
joe rogan
How much time do you spend thinking about this stuff?
roseanne barr
18 hours a day.
unidentified
Yeah.
roseanne barr
My kids, everyone's mad at me.
unidentified
I mean, I have to figure it out.
roseanne barr
It makes no sense.
Otherwise, I mean, people have to help me understand what I've done.
joe rogan
You need a co-host.
You need like a journalist.
unidentified
I need a psychiatrist.
joe rogan
A journalist?
roseanne barr
A good idea.
joe rogan
Yeah, someone's going to sit with you.
roseanne barr
Tiffany McHenry.
joe rogan
Who's that?
roseanne barr
Tiffany McFitz Henry.
I can't remember.
It's Fitz Henry.
joe rogan
He'll find it.
roseanne barr
Tiff.
joe rogan
Tiff.
roseanne barr
I want her for my co-host.
unidentified
What is she doing?
Oh, shit!
roseanne barr
What does she do?
She can uncover anything.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
roseanne barr
She's like, oh, here it is.
Oh, he was arrested in 1922 when he had this and that.
John Bolton, blah, blah.
She gets it all.
All declassified.
The government's own shit.
You have to make it up.
joe rogan
Freedom of Information Act stuff.
roseanne barr
It's the greatest story never told, the story of this country.
It's phenomenal!
I'd like to see somebody make a movie on it.
joe rogan
Talk to Oliver Stone.
He seems like the guy for that.
roseanne barr
I have talked to him before.
joe rogan
Did you?
roseanne barr
He's so left.
I'm like, give it a rest, huh?
joe rogan
Too left.
roseanne barr
Give it a rest.
It's not about that.
You're not going to have your one fucking commie world, you dumb bastard.
unidentified
Back off.
You got billions.
roseanne barr
Go away.
Erase somebody's fucking wage.
unidentified
Shut up.
roseanne barr
Pay your people decent.
For fuck's sake.
Let's start there.
joe rogan
He doesn't pay his people decent?
roseanne barr
Well, I don't know that.
But I'm just saying, if he didn't, it would be wrong.
joe rogan
That's true.
roseanne barr
You know what I'm saying?
I'm just sick of people's hypocrisy.
joe rogan
I understand.
roseanne barr
Just help people get their...
They're fucking money back that belongs to them, like public money.
That's for roads, streets, hospitals, schools, okay?
Public money.
When they give it to private contractors to go to, you know, where they go, you know, move guns and shit all around the world, that means, like Eisenhower said, that's one less high school for the kids.
Come on, we're going to be the kind of a country that leads the world.
We cannot...
We cannot be imperialist, one-world fascist.
It won't work.
We have to do something else.
joe rogan
So we can't be one-world fascist?
No!
You mean like one-world government?
roseanne barr
No!
Leave people the fuck alone!
Leave the tribal people in the Middle East to live where they've lived forever!
And if you can't, then separate them.
joe rogan
Separate them.
roseanne barr
Yeah, if they can't live together, then don't force them to live together.
joe rogan
Like what people are you talking about?
Like the Palestinians and the Israelis?
Like that kind of deal?
roseanne barr
Well, in Israel, the Arab population is very well integrated, so I don't mean Israel.
But out of Israel, they're not very well integrated.
Because they just get their money from bullshit propaganda peddled by the left.
But the people on the ground are what I'm saying.
The people on the ground are the ones that matter to me.
And if you can live together, then live together.
That's great!
And if you can't, then don't.
Nobody can force you.
To live with people who want you dead.
What is that?
That's Auschwitz.
Are you shitting me?
I'm not going to live with people that want you dead.
joe rogan
I'm not sure what you're referring to, though.
roseanne barr
I'm referring to the entire world.
joe rogan
The whole world.
roseanne barr
The entire fucking world.
Led by, you know...
Bad ideas, man, that haven't worked this far.
It's going to have to be something new that actually works for the people in the world, not just the people at the top.
Like, do you have any suggestions?
Of course!
joe rogan
I'd love to hear them.
Like, what do you think you should do?
roseanne barr
Well, when I ran for president, I had my solutions.
joe rogan
What's your solution?
roseanne barr
Well, I have to tell you, Jill, when I was a little girl, uh...
I made a promise to myself, I guess, and the cosmos and God and everything, that I was not ever going to...
I was going to keep trying to know.
No matter what, I was going to keep trying to know.
And know something new.
Know something new and different.
joe rogan
Like what?
unidentified
Um...
roseanne barr
How to create a world where something like Auschwitz doesn't exist.
And even the thought of it doesn't exist.
But you really can't.
Because I think when you read about Western society and all of that, you're like, maybe that's where it leads.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it seems like throughout history there's been evil governments.
There's been certain evil organizations that have done horrific things.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like way back to, as far as we know, from Rome to the Inquisition to the Mongols to the, you know...
I mean, there's been horrific things done by human beings.
And one of the things about knowing about things like Auschwitz is it lets us know that even though things in this country right now are relatively great in comparison to the rest of the world, relatively great in comparison to some parts of the world that are war-torn and terrible right now, It could go bad.
It could go bad because that's what humans are capable of.
Humans are capable when they're led by the wrong ideology, when they're cult-minded, when they're all in.
They can do some terrible, awful things, and we need to know that.
And it's one of the things about having something like Auschwitz in our history that we know that that's possible.
roseanne barr
Well, we know that you can convince people of anything.
joe rogan
Yes.
roseanne barr
We know that.
joe rogan
Yes, for sure.
roseanne barr
And if you, like he said, if you tell a lie, if you make it big enough and tell it often enough, everybody will believe it.
joe rogan
Well, if you just keep talking.
One of the things that I think is really interesting about the internet today is you're seeing groups of people that are connected to groups of people.
And for sure this podcast is guilty of it in a certain way, although it's unintentional.
But there are people out there that are essentially running online cults.
roseanne barr
Yes.
joe rogan
It's not hard to do.
roseanne barr
No, it's not hard to do.
joe rogan
It's not hard to do.
People love a leader.
We have an inherent desire to be a part of a tribe.
roseanne barr
Right.
Well, because we're tribal.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But look, I have a goddamn American flag behind me.
I mean, there's a reason for that.
I love America.
I really do.
I love the idea of it.
The idea of freedom, self-expression.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
This is one of the rare places on earth where you can come here with fuck all and really make something out of yourself.
There's no caste system here.
We celebrate people that are poor.
That make it to become huge.
Look at all the entertainers and singers, rock and roll people.
roseanne barr
I believe that basically because, you know, basically I'm still like I always was.
People think, oh, you're no longer a socialist.
Well, I'm not going to call it socialism anymore.
You know, I ran as a socialist candidate in 2012. What's changed?
For the Peace and Freedom Party.
joe rogan
There's a Peace and Freedom Party?
roseanne barr
Yeah, in California.
joe rogan
Who's opposing that?
That's a good move.
Call yourself the Peace and Freedom Party.
No one can say I oppose Peace and Freedom.
roseanne barr
Well, it was the Party of the Black Panthers in San Francisco.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh.
roseanne barr
And so that was very important for me to run on there like with Dick Gregory.
He's the first comic that did it.
joe rogan
I love Dick Gregory.
roseanne barr
I love that guy.
He was a mentor to me.
And so I did it because Dick Gregory did it.
And I wanted to be worthy of talking to Dick Gregory and saying the right things and kind of glad he wasn't around.
I hope he wasn't around when they start calling me a racist.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, he's the guy that brought the Kennedy assassination film to Geraldo Rivera.
He brought the Zapruder film.
roseanne barr
I know.
joe rogan
To television.
I mean, he's a very important guy.
roseanne barr
Remember when he was fat?
joe rogan
He was fat for a little bit.
Then he became like a vegetarian, right?
roseanne barr
And then a fruitarian or something.
He started having like a Bahamian diet.
His sons are good people and stay in touch a little bit.
I said, I bet your dad's haunting you guys.
I can't see him being quiet up there.
They said things happen where they wonder if it isn't their dad.
joe rogan
He's one of those guys that I really feel sad that I didn't get a chance to meet him.
I fucked up.
roseanne barr
He had a mind like, wow, that was like two centuries.
Looking at him was going back centuries, you know, just the storehouse of information he had in his brain of history, the kind of history we never hear.
joe rogan
Yes.
roseanne barr
And now I feel sorry for the kids in school these days because they don't hear any real history at all.
joe rogan
It's almost like there's too much information at their fingertips.
That's true.
There's a poverty of information because there's an overwhelming amount of stuff that's coming their way.
It's hard for them to figure out what's important.
I don't think that school is the way that most people learn correctly because I think it's too rigid and limiting.
But one thing at least is school gives you a core set of a base of knowledge that you need to learn.
You need to learn some American history.
You need to learn some world history.
You need to learn some science.
I think having that core foundation of information, there's a lot of kids that are just really lacking that today.
If they're not paying attention in school, they're just fucking off and they're Googling things on the internet and And they go in one ear and out the other after the test is over.
They don't remember any of it because they're not really interested by it.
roseanne barr
I'm like that.
joe rogan
Me too.
When I'm interested in things, I retain them.
But when I don't give up my – someone will say something to me and if I don't care, it's gone.
Like I couldn't for my life tell you what you just said 30 seconds ago.
roseanne barr
Me either.
I don't even remember what I said.
joe rogan
But if someone says something that's really significant to me and it means a lot, I can remember it forever.
Yeah, I mean, I can pull up...
roseanne barr
Like after this whole thing today, what I'll remember is, he said he liked my hair.
joe rogan
Roseanne, you know I love you.
I love everything about you.
roseanne barr
Thank you so much.
I love you too.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Look, first of all, you really could and should do a podcast, and we can definitely help you.
I can connect you with people that'll make it a plug-and-play thing, where it's real easy.
roseanne barr
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Okay.
joe rogan
Are you staying here now?
Are you in Hawaii?
roseanne barr
Well, that's the problem, is I go back and forth, because my kids make me come and babysit all the time.
joe rogan
But that's not hard.
You just get someone to set it up.
roseanne barr
My grandkids get the best pot, so I do it.
unidentified
Ha ha ha!
joe rogan
What is the best pot these days?
There's so much pot.
It's hard to say.
I don't even know what bad pot is anymore.
roseanne barr
Well, now that it's being sold on every street corner out here, it's like heaven.
joe rogan
The only issue is, there's a guy named John Norris, and he was working for the Department of Fish and Game as a game warden, and he started stumbling upon these illegal cartel grow-ops.
roseanne barr
Oh, yeah, I heard about that.
joe rogan
Apparently some crazy number, like between 80 and 90% of all the illegal marijuana that's sold in this country is coming from cartel grow-ops, or similar illegal grow-ops where they use dangerous pesticides.
roseanne barr
Right.
Pesticides are good.
joe rogan
So there's a movement right now for people to test marijuana.
And in fact, my friend Todd is actually starting a business doing this where they want to check marijuana plants and make sure, inspect the stuff that people are growing to make sure there's no harmful chemicals or pesticides.
Because they're using this stuff to keep animals away, to keep bugs from eating the leaves.
And then you can smoke that stuff and it's toxic.
roseanne barr
Yeah, because that's what they're saying about fentanyl.
They're just bringing that in.
And the people that can't get their drugs anymore because it's too expensive, those prescription painkillers.
joe rogan
Exactly.
And fentanyl is way stronger.
It's way smaller.
And it kills people so bad.
A guy was telling me that cops, where he works, have to wear gloves when they're handling people at overdose.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Because they're literally getting it through the pores of the skin of the people that are overdosing.
That's how potent this shit is.
So if you grab some sweaty guy who's overdosing and you're a cop and you have bare hands and that sweat gets in your hands, you literally can get fucked up from that fentanyl.
roseanne barr
Oh my god.
joe rogan
This is insane.
So they're wearing special gloves.
roseanne barr
What's it made out of?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's just an incredibly potent opiate.
roseanne barr
So it's made out of poppies?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I think it's completely synthetic.
roseanne barr
It is?
joe rogan
I think it's completely synthetic.
And they're always releasing new and more potent versions of it.
There's just a massive profit margin in making drugs that people like, whether they're illegal drugs or legal drugs.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, we make this big distinction about illegal or legal.
The good thing about the legal ones is they don't come with violence.
It doesn't come with cartels.
But still, you're killing people.
People are dying left and right from legal drugs, from an overused, overprescribed amount of legal drugs.
And there's so many legal drugs that could fucking kill you dead.
roseanne barr
I think everything's just a crime syndicate.
And basically, it's just a distribution channel, which means roads and trucks.
And like union, you know, it used to be unions.
But, you know, they probably don't really keep tabs on which comes in legal and which comes in illegal.
Maybe they do, but they probably come on the same plane from Afghanistan.
That's what they say.
Come on, it's all like crime is a whole economy.
It's all fine.
I don't think there's anything people do to live that could be wrong.
I just think we could be really smart and organize it better, like we could create a whole new thing since we have all these computers and intelligence open to us and available to us, plus the thinkers that know how to program those and programmers plus the thinkers that know how to program those and programmers and all those people that know about zero and one and Mm-hmm.
Just fucking invent something way better that helps people.
And I know people have the brains to do that in about an hour.
If somebody, I'll be that leader, I mean if that's called for, somebody just has to tell them to do it, I think.
joe rogan
I think people need to figure out a way to profit off helping people.
That's where things would get good.
Here's how you'll profit.
roseanne barr
I know, but fuck that, that's all going to go.
There's not going to be any more money.
What do you mean?
I just don't think there's going to be any more money.
joe rogan
You know about this Google quantum computing shit?
Yeah.
This Google quantum computing thing, they think it's a huge threat to cryptocurrency.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm too stupid to understand whether or not they're right, but...
I'm way too uninformed, too.
But what they're trying to say is that there's no way you would be able to encode or encrypt this information that would keep it from this insane computing power that they're developing.
roseanne barr
Yeah, there is.
joe rogan
There is?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
There's a way to get around all of it.
And I don't know why I'm like...
I mean, I know I'm on the autism spectrum.
Yeah.
You know, a lot of us autistic people, we just started talking to each other on the internet quite a while ago about, like, hey...
Let's try to envision solutions to everyday problems that actually people face and that threaten them and see what we can come up with.
And so there's whole websites about it.
And I wish I had them, but I will post them after I do the fucking research.
So I can't get a goddamn assistant to do any goddamn research.
joe rogan
Why can't you get an assistant?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Who's that journalist lady she was asking about?
Did you find her?
roseanne barr
Tiffany.
joe rogan
Tiffany?
Who is it?
jamie vernon
She had just actually tweeted about Roseanne.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
roseanne barr
Well, she's my friend.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
That makes sense.
I was like, that is crazy.
unidentified
I thought it was crazy for a second.
I was like, that's crazy.
roseanne barr
No, we've been friends for a number of years.
joe rogan
Where's Tiffany live?
roseanne barr
She lives down there in the south.
Well, I don't know if she wants me to say.
joe rogan
Well, don't say.
But we could always do it remotely.
roseanne barr
Down in the south.
Oh, she might.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can set it up remotely.
roseanne barr
She's all over the internet.
joe rogan
Well, with today's video.
roseanne barr
She writes some good shit.
Like, did you see her story on George Clooney?
joe rogan
No.
I don't know anything about her.
roseanne barr
And that billion dollar tequila he was selling with Randy Gerber, they got it added up to being worth one billion dollars by that company that owns the most liquor stores in the world and roads and trucks and blah, blah.
You know, their distribution channel is a good one.
A billion!
And the stuff they make tequila with, well, you'll have to read the article.
It's for people who fancied themselves progressive, and then when their eyes beheld what the left actually does with its invested money, their eyes bug out.
joe rogan
What is he doing with this tequila money?
roseanne barr
Well, it's not what he did doing with it.
It's how they valued it.
It's like it just shows you how corrupt everything is.
Everything is totally a fucking scam.
joe rogan
I'm confused because it's just like a successful tequila business, right?
Is there something wrong with the way they're doing it?
roseanne barr
In some ways, some people are saying, you know, that the recipe, it's grown in families for generations.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
And it's to their – it's like a Walmart kind of deal.
To their demise, you know, the products they use to produce the – Tequilas are like getting waylaid like in a Walmart shopping cart called George Clooney's Company.
And these families who have lived for generations are getting the screwed-in deals like they do when Walmart comes in the community.
joe rogan
Okay, I see what you're saying.
roseanne barr
So people who are progressive, they need to know where all that one-worldy crap goes.
I don't think they know.
joe rogan
So what you're saying is that he is basically profiting off of the hard work of these people that are remaining poor and they're buying their formula and then using that formula to make that tequila and they're growing everything, but they're making all the profit?
Is that what you're saying?
roseanne barr
Yeah, I think it's about agave, which is a resource.
And I think it's about growing that and the native people owning it rather than it being bought out from under them.
So yeah, it's a whole one world issue.
joe rogan
Ron White's got a great tequila company.
roseanne barr
Yeah?
joe rogan
You know Ron?
roseanne barr
I don't know him.
joe rogan
You don't know him?
roseanne barr
No, but I love that he smokes a cigar.
joe rogan
He's awesome.
unidentified
Is he?
joe rogan
I love him like I love you.
roseanne barr
Really?
He's a cool guy?
I think he's funny.
joe rogan
Salt of the earth.
roseanne barr
Oh, good for him.
joe rogan
He's amazing.
I love him.
But he's got number one tequila.
He sells his own tequila.
It's really good.
roseanne barr
Isn't it weird when you really get connected and understand that everything's connected, everything else?
joe rogan
A lot of things are connected.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
For sure.
roseanne barr
See, I just, I'm kind of a, I know I'm a weirdo.
I know I'm different than other people.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
You know?
joe rogan
Thank God.
roseanne barr
I don't know why.
I always tried to be normal, and it just never worked.
joe rogan
Nobody as funny as you is ever going to be normal.
roseanne barr
I guess not.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, I at one time thought that, but it's quite a lesson to get public censored.
And it still goes on.
joe rogan
Is that show still on the air without you?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
How's it doing?
roseanne barr
Oh, I don't know.
joe rogan
You don't even pay attention?
roseanne barr
Well, I kind of do now, but I don't know.
I mean, not really I don't.
But...
I don't know.
Some people called me and told me to look for something, so I did.
joe rogan
Yeah?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
You could do a podcast very easily, and I think if you did, it would be awesome.
roseanne barr
It would be awesome because, you know what?
After they kicked me off TV and said I was a threat to America and everything.
joe rogan
They called you a threat to America?
roseanne barr
Well, something like that.
A threat to Hollywood.
joe rogan
Everything's a threat to Hollywood right now.
It seems to be crumbling at the foundations.
roseanne barr
Isn't it great?
It's horrible, too.
joe rogan
It's great.
Well, I love movies, so I'm bummed out.
roseanne barr
But the movies all suck.
joe rogan
Well, I heard Avatar 2. I'm very excited about that.
unidentified
John Wick 3 was pretty fucking awesome.
roseanne barr
That's my favorite.
John Wick is my favorite.
joe rogan
I love that movie.
roseanne barr
I saw it.
I went with my two sons and we saw it.
It was awesome!
joe rogan
I was just at Taron Tactical today where they trained John Wick.
We were doing the pistol course.
roseanne barr
Shit, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Keanu Reeves trained John Wick.
They trained Keanu Reeves.
There's pictures of him there, yeah, training.
I've seen videos of him training there, too.
It's really cool.
roseanne barr
How cool is he?
joe rogan
He's a really sweet guy.
He just seems like the nicest guy of all time.
He just seems like so down-to-earth and normal, like almost too normal, you know?
roseanne barr
That's why he can play John Wick.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, you totally buy it.
roseanne barr
I love how he does it without any emotion.
Like my boyfriend said he'd rather die and be tortured to death than to watch anything Hollywood makes.
He hasn't seen a movie in years.
joe rogan
Watch John Wick.
roseanne barr
I told him that because he's a animal activist and all that.
He's real, that guy.
He's real, like, fucker lied to me.
He lied to you?
Jill Stein, fucker.
He lied to me and told me he was voting for Trump.
And now it says that that fucker lied.
But anyway.
joe rogan
Does he eat meat?
roseanne barr
No.
joe rogan
No meat at all?
roseanne barr
Fish?
He eats a little fish.
joe rogan
A little fish?
roseanne barr
But I said, you would love John Wick, I'm telling you.
I go, he kills everyone because they killed his dog.
unidentified
That's true.
roseanne barr
And that's the greatest line of all time.
You killed mine.
I'm like, that was so fucking cool.
And he goes, what?
I could almost get into that.
I go, yeah, he whips their fucking heads off and shits down their throat.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
roseanne barr
And lets a fucking match and throws it on their car.
I love it.
unidentified
That's what I'm talking about.
roseanne barr
I want to be in a movie like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Tiffany McFitz Henry, she's a screenwriter and writes...
You know, movies like that with her partner.
And I'm like, can't you make a killer granny script for me?
Because I want to have the gun, you know?
joe rogan
Like Death Wish with Roseanne.
unidentified
Death Wish.
joe rogan
Yes.
Right?
Why not?
roseanne barr
Death Wish.
joe rogan
Yes.
roseanne barr
The Jewish version.
I come in there like this.
Yes.
Listen here, young man.
joe rogan
Whoa.
I'm already scared.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
What's this new face?
roseanne barr
That was my grandma.
That's my grandma.
That cursed face.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Wow, I sent some memes.
roseanne barr
Your father...
joe rogan
Oh no.
roseanne barr
He didn't like her neither.
joe rogan
Really?
roseanne barr
That's a bummer.
He used to say, hey, call your grandma up in the winter.
He said, go call your bubby up and tell her to come to the house and visit you kids and tell her to walk down the side where the icicles are so I can crawl out on the roof and fucking hammer it and it will fall down and pierce through her brain.
joe rogan
Whoa.
You heard this kind of shit when you were a kid?
roseanne barr
Yeah, it was all about that.
The whole thing.
joe rogan
This is your dad who is hilarious?
roseanne barr
So hilarious.
joe rogan
What was wrong with your grandma that he was so upset at her?
I'm assuming that was his wife's mom?
roseanne barr
Yeah, his wife's mom.
Oh, she was a bitch.
There was no bitch bigger than her.
Big Bobby bitch.
Boss.
Boss bitch?
Yeah, big boss bitch.
She owned her own apartment house, had 12 units.
She controlled everyone's lives who lived within there.
joe rogan
Whoa.
roseanne barr
Nobody would dare bark.
joe rogan
I like ladies like that when I don't have to be under their thumb.
If I just know them, I think it's fun.
roseanne barr
She got a guy under her thumb.
I want to write this to a movie.
I'll make it brief.
One of her...
Tenants was a guy who wore a golf shirt.
She'd never seen that before.
She'd seen like one-legged fuckers in an army fatigue, you know, in America.
Because this was in the ghetto where she had her apartment house.
And right by the bus station there.
That's where I grew up.
But, you know...
joe rogan
The guy under her thumb?
roseanne barr
Oh, yeah.
So he's wearing these golf shirts.
She's like, Tyler.
She had a thick Lithuanian accent.
Tyler wears a golf shirt.
I can't do accents.
In golf shirts.
He's going to golfing.
It's a classy guy, you know.
unidentified
Classy.
roseanne barr
Classy kind of guy.
Classy customer.
So he made the mistake of thinking she was a warm person.
As many people make that mistake with all Jewish women thinking they're warm and loving people.
joe rogan
She wasn't.
roseanne barr
Well, she was, but there was a dark side there, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
So he tells her that he's a fugitive.
joe rogan
Uh-oh.
roseanne barr
And that was her favorite show at the time, The Fugitive.
joe rogan
The one with the guy who had one leg or something?
roseanne barr
Yeah, one arm.
joe rogan
One arm, right.
roseanne barr
The Fugitive.
joe rogan
That was our show.
unidentified
That's what she said.
joe rogan
So he told her.
roseanne barr
He told her he was a fugitive.
joe rogan
So she turned him into the cops?
roseanne barr
Nope.
She moved him underneath her apartment.
joe rogan
Oh, under her thumb.
roseanne barr
I mean, she was under, and she put him above, and she hooked up a bell on a rope that went into his kitchen and her bed.
And if she goes, ding, ding, ding, he had to come running.
joe rogan
And give her a fucking?
roseanne barr
No, no.
She was a Jewish woman.
Are you kidding?
No.
Take out my garbage cans to the street.
joe rogan
I was hoping it was a positive ending.
unidentified
Oh, it was all labor issues.
roseanne barr
Time for you to cut the grass.
I need you to go fix the toilet, number eight.
joe rogan
Well, once she finds out he's a fugitive, he's fucked.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
So she goes...
So anyway, us kids was there.
He falls in love with my mother, who looked like Elizabeth Taylor.
And so my mom, you know, he's thinking that, oh, her daughter, she'll help me out.
She's working me to death this old bag.
So my mom being that way, too, she gets in on it.
I need you to come over and cut my grass.
And pretty soon his job was to sit at our dinner table between her and my dad.
And go, Helen, this is the most delicious roast I've ever tasted in my life.
joe rogan
That was his job?
roseanne barr
Yeah, and my dad just sitting here like, yeah, it's good.
She's like, make my husband jealous too.
So it became psycho and it goes on and on.
I was 12. But at the end of that summer, he turned himself in.
joe rogan
Couldn't do it anymore.
It was worse being into her prison.
roseanne barr
Yeah, the two of them.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
roseanne barr
Then they got in a family fight and tore out each other's hair over this guy.
joe rogan
Whoa!
roseanne barr
That was my upbringing.
unidentified
Good times.
roseanne barr
Everything's funnier than hell.
joe rogan
Your mom looked like Elizabeth Taylor?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
She had a waist.
Goddammit, I wished I had a waist.
I got my dad's body.
He was a football player and they called him Jerry Barr, the boy built like a barrel.
Barrel body.
I totally got it.
And so I thought when I was in Hollywood, I would get like a girl body with some ass cheeks and a waist.
So I'm still trying to work on that.
joe rogan
Well, you mean like surgery-wise?
Don't do that.
roseanne barr
Yeah, like the Kardashian family.
God, I idolize them.
They're out here, you know.
joe rogan
They are out here, yeah.
roseanne barr
Have you seen them?
joe rogan
Yes, I've seen them.
roseanne barr
Have you ever looked at their ass right...
joe rogan
Not up tight.
unidentified
Pull that microphone.
roseanne barr
I have.
Oh, I'm sorry.
joe rogan
That's the problem with no headphones.
We forget.
roseanne barr
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
I've seen their ass firsthand in Beverly Hills.
joe rogan
Did you enjoy it?
roseanne barr
I was through.
I never saw anything so incredible in my life.
It was like the eighth wonder of the world.
It was completely up.
joe rogan
Up.
roseanne barr
There was no sag whatsoever.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
And I'm like, see, I just had like a crack in my back.
I never had, I was assless in an ass-faced economy.
And that was my whole problem.
And I was like, my dad would be like, you're never going to get, and my parents both, you're never going to get a husband because you're too fat and you have, you know, you have no ass, you have no waist, you need to work out, you know, whatever.
And you have a big mouth and no guy will ever like that.
joe rogan
Obviously he was wrong.
roseanne barr
Well, I proved them wrong.
Three assholes.
I got a good one now.
joe rogan
You got a good one?
roseanne barr
A good man.
joe rogan
That's good for you.
roseanne barr
18 years.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
roseanne barr
He made it.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
unidentified
That's a long time.
roseanne barr
I don't know how he did it either.
joe rogan
He hung in there.
roseanne barr
He's like, God damn, ever since you went on that one antidepressant, things have been a lot nicer around here.
joe rogan
What was the one you went on?
roseanne barr
Cymbalta.
joe rogan
Is that the newest one?
roseanne barr
No, yeah, I've been on it for four years.
You know, with this whole thing, I realized I go on too much.
I talk too much, like all old women.
joe rogan
No, you don't talk too much.
The problem is not the talking.
The problem is the people reacting to your talking.
roseanne barr
I like to see people get lit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
It makes them go, woo, my ass itches.
No, I think it goes like this.
unidentified
Shit!
Uh-oh!
roseanne barr
Something was off-program!
unidentified
Oh, I'm unraveling!
roseanne barr
Like the Wicked Witch.
unidentified
Off-program.
roseanne barr
Oh, a bit of water got on you.
It's off-program.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
unidentified
Eat it!
joe rogan
The problem is not what you're saying.
roseanne barr
It isn't?
joe rogan
No.
roseanne barr
It's how I say it?
joe rogan
The problem is people reacting to you.
That's the problem.
roseanne barr
But I'm supposed to get a reaction.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they're fools.
The ones who are freaking out and canceling this and firing that, they're just fools.
They don't understand you.
roseanne barr
It makes me think of that song, which, you know, I said, fuck it.
I don't care about it no more.
I'm going to become the rock star that I've always wanted to be, and I'm going to sing that song, and here's the song.
I'm not going to sing it right now, but this was the song that refers to all that.
I'm just a soul whose intentions are good.
unidentified
Oh, Lord.
roseanne barr
Oh, Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood.
Yeah.
Life has its problems.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a great quote.
roseanne barr
And I've got my share.
joe rogan
That's a great quote.
roseanne barr
Isn't it?
That was great words.
unidentified
It's a great song.
roseanne barr
Eric Burden, what a great artist.
joe rogan
You know, we talked about on the last podcast, I think was really important that people understand, you know, I've been a fan of yours forever, and I know your story.
unidentified
So nice.
joe rogan
And I know what happened to you when you were a little girl when you got hit by a car.
And you were in a mental institution for nine months afterwards and how it completely affected the way you think and behave.
And I don't think people knew that.
And it was a really important thing for me to talk about during the last podcast.
One of the reasons why I wanted to get you in as quick as we could.
People need to understand what's happening here.
What's happening there was a genius comic who's also on Ambien, smoking pot, drinking, and has legitimate brain injury.
roseanne barr
I do.
And I have a mental health issue.
joe rogan
I think a lot of that is from not just genetics, but your brain injury.
unidentified
Well, I... The problem is people reacting to you.
joe rogan
They're reacting to you like you're calling for people to be assassinated or murdered or you're yelling racial slurs in the streets.
You're not doing any of those things.
You're not that person.
The reaction was so overblown.
And then ABC got so wacky and canceled you.
It was so...
Foolish, so foolhardy, and to try to change who you were, the reason why the goddamn show was successful is because of who you were, and the fact that other people on the show didn't have your political ideology, and you would argue with them and fight with them, and it's like real-life conflict, like people know in their own homes.
That relatable aspect of your show was why it was number one so quickly, and why the old show was so great.
That's you!
And they tried to mold you to these woke times and foolishly reacted to the way you were talking as if you were doing something that was like, they changed what you were doing and made it this horrific, terrible thing.
unidentified
It's just not accurate.
roseanne barr
Well, it's all because I said that I like Trump.
As soon as they heard that, you know, a lot of cabals here in Hollywood, that's all they needed to hear.
It's like, okay, she must be destroyed.
And I did hear people say, oh my God, I'm afraid she's going to try to humanize Trump.
At the network, they said that.
joe rogan
Yes, people think that.
roseanne barr
And it's like, what?
You mean Trump voters?
Is that who you're afraid is going to get humanized?
joe rogan
It's half the fucking country.
roseanne barr
I know!
It's like such an elitist, out-of-touch vote.
The view of humans, it's always offended me.
It always offended me that they didn't like their audience, and I liked the audience because I thought I'm from there, and they're familiar to me.
And I vowed to myself, I'm not going to disrespect the audience.
And I never did, and I never did sell out, neither.
So everybody, you know, there will come a day, I believe, when, you know...
No, there won't.
Who knows what the fuck will happen?
joe rogan
Who knows?
roseanne barr
Nothing will happen.
joe rogan
Who knows what the fuck's going to happen?
roseanne barr
Inside my own head, though, I guess I've made peace with it.
It was like the worst horrible thing I've ever gone through.
My friend Tiffany, she says...
She says that this might be the beginning of the valuing of an artist, because it was the lowest point of ever devaluing an artist and an artist's work.
She says, so maybe now it's turned around and the artist will be better respected for what they bring.
joe rogan
I hope so, because they were even pulling your old show off of things.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which is just fucking ridiculous.
roseanne barr
That's kind of what killed the comedy thing for me, is that I was also told that one more, me getting in trouble one more time, I wouldn't have my reruns anymore.
And I live on that, you know?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
roseanne barr
So that's kind of what killed the stand-up comedy.
joe rogan
So that killed the idea of you going out and doing stand-up.
roseanne barr
Yeah, because I asked for it to be defined.
I said, could I have a definition of what Yeah.
joe rogan
This is the problem.
roseanne barr
It could mean you fart or something sometime.
I mean, these people that think people are rude are the rudest fucking assholes on earth.
They think they're doing the right thing, though.
The people that think they're so sensitive, they're insensitive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Do you think they think they're doing the right thing?
unidentified
Yes.
roseanne barr
I do too.
Because I don't think they ever get to hear anybody like me say, you're not doing the right thing.
joe rogan
Well, we live in an echo chamber out here.
roseanne barr
Please think it through a bit.
joe rogan
We live in an echo chamber.
roseanne barr
I know.
That's why it's up to us to go, you guys, think things through a little bit more.
I'm not condemning anybody.
I'm not that kind of person.
joe rogan
I think we need more conversations.
roseanne barr
Absolutely.
unidentified
And we need more...
roseanne barr
We just have the best dinner parties until all these self-righteous fucking progressives ruin that.
Starting with my own family on Passover when we were celebrating the Jews leaving fucking Egypt.
And I had this horrible cousin.
I can't even remember his name.
And he goes, well, maybe, and he had long hair, well, maybe we shouldn't be celebrating the death of all the Egyptians.
unidentified
Like, well, that's what the story's about!
roseanne barr
And then we'd have, like, fist fight break out, you know.
And I'd always be the one going, can we just get back to the story?
Can we just get back to the story?
joe rogan
Always someone looking to be offended by some aspect of any story.
roseanne barr
I'm offended every fucking day of my fucking life for how goddamn stupid people are.
Goddamn, they can't be more offensive to me right now than ever has been before.
I'm about ready to get out there and tell people what in the fuck.
Like, that has hit me many times in my life.
There have been times I got out of my car to chase after a mother or two the way I've seen her treating her kid.
I do it.
I'm boots on the ground.
I'm not a trifling sort.
joe rogan
Trifling is a strong word for a white person to use.
I've already said that.
It's like, it's a next door neighbor to the N-word.
roseanne barr
Like trifling?
No, it's not Jews use it.
We use it.
joe rogan
Trifling!
But it seems when a guy uses it that's a white guy, it's like, hmm, I don't know.
I think a woman can get away with it better than a guy can.
roseanne barr
When I grew up, we lived right next door to African Americans.
We lived down where everybody lived together.
Nobody had got to the suburbs yet.
joe rogan
Got it.
roseanne barr
We lived mid-city.
And we had all kind of people down there at the bus station where we lived.
joe rogan
Trifling is just a great word.
roseanne barr
It is a good word.
It should come back.
joe rogan
But it's just white people using it always sounds awkward.
roseanne barr
Does it?
I'm not trifling.
joe rogan
Women can pull it off.
roseanne barr
But it's such a good word.
It's a great word.
What else would you say?
Wallowing in filth?
Isn't that what it means?
joe rogan
You're trifling ass.
roseanne barr
Does it mean wallowing in filth?
joe rogan
I think it more means like you're a fool.
You're like a moron living a stupid fucking petty life, right?
unidentified
It's unimportant or trivial.
joe rogan
Trivial, yeah.
roseanne barr
Trivial, that's the word.
joe rogan
Perfect.
Trivial.
roseanne barr
I call that wallowing in filth or pandering.
joe rogan
So much better than trivial.
roseanne barr
And pandering, too.
I love that word.
joe rogan
Pandering is common amongst cowards.
unidentified
Isn't it?
joe rogan
There's a lot of cowards today.
roseanne barr
They are.
They're cowards, but you can't blame them because they've got drug debts and shit.
joe rogan
Nobody's going to excuse that.
Well, it's also that people don't want to be attacked.
roseanne barr
No, they don't, and they have every right to be that way.
I mean, I am like, this is just before the Jewish holidays in Yom Kippur, where I have to repent.
Anyway.
joe rogan
What are you repented for?
roseanne barr
All the bad shit I did this last year that I enjoyed.
I don't repent for the shit I had to do.
But the stuff I did because I enjoyed seeing somebody squirm.
joe rogan
What did you do that you enjoyed seeing somebody squirm?
roseanne barr
Oh, I had to have...
joe rogan
Don't say anything that's going to get your reruns canceled.
roseanne barr
I just had to have the last word in personal...
unidentified
Oh, I get it.
roseanne barr
You know, all over the place.
joe rogan
Yeah, that kind of shit.
roseanne barr
And in the larger world, go for the...
Yes, I'm just trying to be a forgiving person, and so I'll be forgiven.
And I do ask to be forgiven by apologizing.
I am sorry that I made even one...
It was an embarrassing day for anyone who gave me the chance to come on TV and make a number one show.
And to all those whom I embarrassed, I am very sorry.
And I think I owe that.
And I feel it.
And I am sorry for Allowing myself to become unwell mentally because I worked so hard I didn't look out for myself.
I didn't take the vitamins.
I didn't take the shots.
joe rogan
We talked about that too and your difficulty sleeping and then taking sleeping aids.
roseanne barr
I've been sober off Ambien since that happened.
joe rogan
Fantastic.
That's excellent news.
roseanne barr
Now I take melatonin.
joe rogan
Melatonin.
roseanne barr
Melatonin.
Yeah, from the drugstore.
joe rogan
That's really good.
That's really good advice.
I mean, really good news.
I'm very happy to hear that.
That scares the shit out of me.
roseanne barr
I haven't done any weird things.
I mean, that tweet was just one of them.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
No, I know.
I follow you on Twitter.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would see the tweets to her and be like, Roseanne's on one.
roseanne barr
Oh yeah, Roseanne's on one.
My daughter goes, you've got to stop with these ambient tweets, mother, before you lose everything for us!
joe rogan
Whoa, that's hard for us.
Like, you little bitch.
Whoa, that's harsh.
roseanne barr
Don't worry, I'll get even.
I get when my grandsons, I'm like, hey, you guys, let's go get high.
joe rogan
I think this now and I thought this then.
You just need an advocate who understands you.
That's all you needed.
You needed it back then and, you know...
roseanne barr
I needed not to be totally drained of vitamin B12 because the side effect is psychosis.
That's a good thing too.
And so I believe that I was in a psychosis because the doctor goes, you have, okay, good news.
I go to this guy, what is it?
Cedar Sinai.
Good news.
You have no vitamin.
You let it go too long.
Because you know, I'm in Hawaii.
I don't keep up with my infusions, vitamins I have to take.
joe rogan
Do you take IV infusions?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
How often do you do that?
roseanne barr
I take them about every three months because I can't process iron.
joe rogan
Because of your stomach operation?
unidentified
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Because of that fucking operation.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Oh, well, I'm glad I got it.
I'd weigh 902 pounds right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, those stomach operations, they mess with your body's ability to absorb nutrients, right?
roseanne barr
Yeah, I can't absorb nothing.
joe rogan
Is that the old way they used to do it?
Like, do they have it better now?
roseanne barr
I think they have it better now.
Now they just do a lap band.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
roseanne barr
You'll have to ask Jennifer Hudson.
But I had the old one.
unidentified
I don't know if she got it.
joe rogan
They shrink your stomach, right?
They cut it and make it smaller.
roseanne barr
I heard Beyonce got one, too.
Did you hear that?
joe rogan
She's never been fat.
Is that what you heard?
roseanne barr
I heard all the stuff of who got what.
joe rogan
That lady's got a perfect body.
I can't imagine.
roseanne barr
I know.
She's gorgeous.
I heard she had a, what do they call it?
The lap band.
joe rogan
I bet someone's hatin'.
That's what I bet.
I bet someone's hatin'.
I bet she never had anything.
I put it all on the table.
I put it all on the table that someone's hatin'.
That lady was never overweight.
If you're in great physical condition, like she's always been, she dances, she does so much physical stuff, that if she got a lap band, it would fuck with her body.
roseanne barr
That's what I think, too.
unidentified
I don't think you can get that.
roseanne barr
I don't believe it, but they are saying that.
Who's the other one they said?
joe rogan
Who are these people that are called they?
roseanne barr
Oh, the lap band community.
joe rogan
That lady's always had a perfect body.
roseanne barr
She is so perfect.
What about the voice?
joe rogan
What's that song?
Oh, her voice is incredible.
unidentified
God!
joe rogan
But the dancing, that song, if you like it, then you better put a ring on it.
Remember that with all those girls dancing?
Her body's insane.
It's always been insane.
roseanne barr
That girl's still got a lap band.
joe rogan
She's got superior genetics.
roseanne barr
Yes, she does.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
She's so pretty, too.
roseanne barr
She certainly does.
joe rogan
But there's no way she has a lap band.
I would, all my money.
unidentified
Push it in.
roseanne barr
Yeah, okay.
joe rogan
Fuck you, haters.
roseanne barr
I think you, okay, I have to agree.
You've won this one.
joe rogan
I just don't think she would, why would she ever get that operation?
If she was like really big and then she got small, that's when people get suspicious.
But she was never big.
roseanne barr
Well, she was big when she was pregnant.
She was pregnant.
joe rogan
Yeah, but a lot of people get big when they get pregnant.
They shrink back down.
What's her name?
The really hot blonde lady with the large ta-tas.
Jessica Simpson.
She just lost 100 pounds.
roseanne barr
She did?
joe rogan
Yeah, she got pregnant, had a baby, got real big, got up to 240. Woo!
That's a big woman.
roseanne barr
I was 240. Woo!
Oh, yeah, you can do some damage at 240. Oh, you can fuck people up.
joe rogan
But now she's 140. Good for her.
Yeah, good for her.
She lost 100 pounds.
roseanne barr
Good for her.
I think she had another baby.
joe rogan
Yeah, she did.
I think she just diet and exercise, you know, did it right.
No lap time.
roseanne barr
God damn, I hate hearing that lie.
unidentified
That's counterintuitive.
roseanne barr
What is it?
Artificial intelligence.
joe rogan
You just need the right people around you, Roseanne.
roseanne barr
God damn it.
joe rogan
That's all it is.
roseanne barr
All I have is wild cats and Johnny.
joe rogan
Well, you got me.
roseanne barr
I'm around.
Johnny talks to cats, and he not only talks to them, he knows what they're saying.
Do you go that far?
joe rogan
No, I don't think I know what my cat's saying.
roseanne barr
Johnny does.
He knows what they're saying.
joe rogan
I think my cat's saying, pet me.
Come on, bro.
Give me a massage.
roseanne barr
Johnny goes like this.
She's saying, Hi Roseanne, will you come and pet me please and give me some fish?
joe rogan
That's probably pretty accurate.
roseanne barr
No, she's not.
That's you.
That's not the cat.
joe rogan
She's probably thinking that.
I'd like to get pet and have some fish.
Yeah.
I think most cats think that.
They're pretty simple creatures.
roseanne barr
I think they think, leave me the F alone.
joe rogan
There's a little bit of that.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
You ever see a kitten stalk like a bird?
roseanne barr
Yes.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
They know right from the beginning.
roseanne barr
They certainly do.
It's that intelligence.
joe rogan
It's DNA. They know to creep up real slow.
unidentified
It's the real intelligence.
joe rogan
I was watching a kitten.
roseanne barr
It's not something you get when you watch TV. It's like the real intelligence.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You got to be out there.
Well, they're from a long line of murderers.
unidentified
Do you have to be out there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Cats?
roseanne barr
No.
Oh, I meant us.
unidentified
Humans?
joe rogan
Oh, us.
Yeah, you got to be out there.
You got to move around.
You can't be confined.
Human beings are products of experience, and I think we need a lot of experiences.
I think we need experiences all the time.
I think you need to travel.
You need to talk to different people.
You need to try different things.
It's one of the reasons why I wanted to go to this gun range today.
I mean, I've shot guns before, but I don't really know how to do it right.
roseanne barr
Oh, you don't?
joe rogan
No, I'm not really.
roseanne barr
Oh, I would have...
See, that's what made Owen Benjamin mad at me because I called him a name.
I shouldn't have used that word.
Because, you know, he's doing all that farming stuff.
Well, I'm doing the farming too and I have farm vehicles, okay?
And he does not have that or any rifles or anything.
So I kind of called him a puss bag.
Come up to the microphone.
He thinks I may be mentioned for other reasons, but no, it's just like, man, if you're going to go do this, you've got to get yourself, you know, one of these four-wheel drive here's like I got with the rifle.
You have to have that?
If you're going to do the job, yeah.
joe rogan
Why do you need a rifle when you're farming?
roseanne barr
Well, for killing wild pigs.
I told you I got nothing but wild pigs over there.
joe rogan
Well, you're in Hawaii.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
My friend Shane started hunting because he was farming and the wild pigs would destroy all of his vegetables.
roseanne barr
Yeah, they do.
Some of these fuckers are like Volkswagens.
joe rogan
Oh, they're crazy.
It is crazy.
roseanne barr
And they don't have no limits.
I mean, they're like politicians, I've noticed.
They don't have any limit.
Like, they want not only what they got, but what you got, too.
They don't stop.
You put barriers up to them, and they keep pushing them down, going under, around.
joe rogan
Pigs are designed to survive.
I mean, they're ruthless in terms of their ability to survive.
They have many litters a year.
roseanne barr
Yeah, they sure do.
joe rogan
And in each litter, they have multiple piglets.
roseanne barr
Right.
joe rogan
And they can get pregnant as early and start breeding at six months.
roseanne barr
I know.
joe rogan
So six months in, they're having their own babies, and then six months later, their baby's having babies.
roseanne barr
That's exactly right.
joe rogan
There are millions and millions of them in this country.
roseanne barr
We were taking out, what was it, 30 pigs a month.
joe rogan
But they're great eating.
roseanne barr
Oh, I don't eat pigs.
You don't eat pigs?
I don't eat animals either.
joe rogan
You don't eat any animals?
roseanne barr
Unless they're really cute.
Then I'll eat them.
joe rogan
How come you don't eat animals?
roseanne barr
If they're cute enough, I'll eat them.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a cute thing.
roseanne barr
No, I don't know because I'm old and, you know, meat just sits there for a while.
joe rogan
Is it because of the stomach operation as well?
roseanne barr
Yeah, I'd better just chicken broth.
joe rogan
When Ralphie May had that operation, he had the same sort of operation.
He couldn't eat meat anymore.
It was crazy because Ralphie was an amazing cook and Ralphie would invite us over for barbecues and he couldn't eat it.
He had to eat vegetables.
It wouldn't sit with him.
It really fucked with his stomach.
He would make these incredible ribs and brisket and everything like that.
We would all eat it and Ralphie couldn't eat it.
But he loved to cook.
Yeah, it sucked.
roseanne barr
Yeah, I wrote a part for him in a show.
joe rogan
He was a sweet guy.
roseanne barr
He was, wasn't he?
joe rogan
He just had a demon.
He had a fucking terrible demon.
roseanne barr
Is it a comedy demon or a drug or alcohol demon or is it all the same demon?
joe rogan
His is a food demon.
You know, I mean, people have demons.
Like, everybody's got their own little weird thing.
roseanne barr
What's your demon?
joe rogan
It's probably...
Anger, violence.
I mean I grew up involved in violence and martial arts and stuff when I was really little.
I think I developed that way and I got good at figuring out how to channel that and then when you stop doing that, the difficulty for a lot of people is figuring out how to turn it off.
You know, that's the demon.
roseanne barr
That's the whole thing right now.
It's like being able to control your temper when your buttons are pushed.
It's the hardest thing in the world.
joe rogan
Way, way, way, way, way, way better at it.
roseanne barr
Yeah, I did too.
joe rogan
But it's like everything else.
Like if you learn comedy in the beginning when you're an open micro, you're terrible.
But then you're 20 years in, you're a master, right?
You know how to kill.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's the same thing with being a person.
I got better at being a person.
Me too.
You just got to understand your own mind better.
I started meditating.
I spent a lot of time in the isolation tank.
I do a lot of yoga.
I smoke a lot of weed.
I mean, all those things are good.
Weed makes...
I don't know what it does to other people, but for me, it makes me nice.
It makes me really friendly.
I want to hug people.
Me too.
roseanne barr
Me too.
joe rogan
I want good things to happen to them.
It gives me a sense of community.
Like, it really means...
That's what it means to me.
roseanne barr
It opens some kind of channel in my head to where the big...
The big we comes in.
The big we.
joe rogan
Us all together, yeah.
Community.
unidentified
Community, yeah.
joe rogan
It's not a drug that is an isolation drug.
Like a drug that makes you want to, like, this is all for me.
I'm the one.
I'm the fucking man.
It's like the opposite.
It makes you humble.
I mean, that's part of what people call paranoia, the paranoia that you get from weed.
I think it's an understanding of your place in the universe that you're kind of denying.
Most people are denying because they're so self-focused.
They're focused on their own life and their own objectives and what they're trying to accomplish and how they want other people to look at them.
And then you smoke the pot and you're like, oh my god, this is crazy.
We're on a ball.
It's hurling through infinity.
There's a giant fireball in the sky.
Like, all this is nothing.
You live for a certain amount of time and nobody really figures out why they're here.
You're all just scrambling, trying to find meaning and then Then it's over.
And then what happens then?
Do you come back as a baby and try all over again?
That's what some people believe.
Some people believe you go to another dimension.
Some people believe that you live the exact same life over and over and over and over again until you get it right.
roseanne barr
Yeah, I know.
I've heard all those.
joe rogan
I'm trying to get it right.
I would love that.
I would love that this be the one that I figure out.
Like maybe I've lived a million of these lives.
And this life, even though I still fuck up all the time, I'd love for this one to be the life that I do my best in.
roseanne barr
Well, it's not going to be.
I'm sorry to let you know.
It's not going to happen.
joe rogan
What did I do wrong?
roseanne barr
You didn't do nothing wrong.
You can't say you did anything wrong.
unidentified
How do you know, though?
roseanne barr
You're on your journey.
joe rogan
But how do you know that this isn't the best version of it?
Maybe I can do better next time around, but this time I'd like to do my best.
I'd like to do better than the last time, if that's a real thing.
If that's the way to look at life...
That you are living this exact same existence over and over and over again.
That's what deja vu is.
That's what all these intuitions that you have, all these feelings that you have.
When you meet someone, you know that person's supposed to be in your life.
You know this guy's a great friend and you're just meeting them.
You have weird feelings like that.
The universe sort of tells you certain things about certain people.
If you're really paying attention and you're really honest and objective.
roseanne barr
We all have fragments of memory that come and go.
Sometimes we're bombarded by it.
joe rogan
You know how the cat knows how to chase after that squirrel?
The cat knows.
It's something in that cat's DNA. We have that too.
We just have it in different ways.
We have it for...
our ability to understand what people are deceptive we ever for our ability to avoid insects and spiders and snakes and certain things we know are dangerous like a meat like I that's why I believe people have when people have like arachnophobia when they have like an unnatural fear of spiders they probably have some distant memory in their DNA of either someone they know dying or themself almost dying or maybe them even dying who knows.
roseanne barr
But it might be a fragment of, I think about this and talk about it all time with friends you know It might be a fragment of a memory of when you were an iguana.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
Because we're always going to go back to the connection.
You know, that's our root.
unidentified
I watched a video.
roseanne barr
Our root chakra is an amoeba, a single-cell organism.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
It's in our body, and it just replicated a lot.
So each one of those things have the same kind of makeup that intelligence does.
joe rogan
Well, you're a collection of things, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're not just all of our cells and all of our DNA, but we also have this weird bacteria floating around in our body, and it's keeping us alive and keeping us healthy.
roseanne barr
And some people say that bacteria is telling us a story.
Like, yeah, I know, it's a big one, because it's like, okay, maybe the loop that goes through in your mind, which maybe this has something to do with me being on Ambien and being in a psychotic state when I tweeted, but Maybe it was just something was playing that didn't make all that much sense, but it made sense at the time.
joe rogan
When you're taking all that stuff, you're taking all that stuff orally, right?
And all that stuff is getting broken down in your gut.
It's fucking with your personality.
It fucks with everything.
They say that your gut, your microbiome, actually affects your personality.
roseanne barr
Right, because it's giving you the thought.
It's informing your thoughts.
joe rogan
Also, sometimes people are inflamed and irritated and that changes their personality.
And to have a healthy body or a healthy microbiome and just a healthy system, it affects your personality in pretty profound ways.
roseanne barr
Well, they say if you're really healthy, you're in a good mood all the time.
joe rogan
That's a good way of looking at it.
roseanne barr
Isn't that weird?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's true though.
roseanne barr
I'm always striving for that because sometimes I'm in a good mood.
I'd say most of the time I'm in a good mood.
These days.
But I don't ever want to fuck with the bad mood.
But you know, when you got bipolar, I'm bipolar, amongst a million other fucking things.
unidentified
What does that mean exactly?
roseanne barr
I got more mental illness than your average bear.
Remember Yogi the Bear?
joe rogan
I do remember Yogi.
roseanne barr
I got more mental illness than you can shake his dick at.
It's hard to live with it.
joe rogan
What does bipolar exactly mean?
roseanne barr
Well, we used to call it moody.
joe rogan
Moody?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
Swinging.
Manic states, right?
You swing up and down.
roseanne barr
Yeah, one minute you're this and the next minute you're that.
But even more protracted is like, well, you're in a good mood for months and then it's that.
You know where they say that straw that broke the camel's back?
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
roseanne barr
That's kind of clue one that you might be bipolar.
I guess when the camel breaks and you just let it all rip because you can't control it anymore.
And things you didn't even think you were holding back come out.
You don't have the right way of processing emotion.
And it's such extremes.
And then you follow the extremes through with action, like going someplace and then having to go some other place.
It's terrifying.
Mental illness is really terrifying.
I think maybe this whole thing is going to move me to start talking more honestly about it.
Because I think of all the conversations in America, that's the most needed.
joe rogan
It's a very important conversation.
And it's also very important that we have empathy towards people with mental health because we have empathy towards people with other ailments.
If someone has liver cancer, we don't go, oh, fix your liver, you fucking idiot.
Why are you out here getting sick?
But if you have mental issues, it affects the way you communicate with people and we think it's your fault.
If you have a bad knee, no one says, why can't you run up the hill, you fucking moron.
But if you have something wrong with your brain, we just assume it's your fault.
It's a real bad thing.
It's a bad habit that people have, particularly people that don't have mental illness.
roseanne barr
I know.
They're such bullies.
joe rogan
Well, they don't understand that it could happen to you.
It could happen to anybody.
roseanne barr
But bullying the mentally ill is so much a part of what's going on in our culture right now.
Abandoning them and just in the streets.
joe rogan
Well, that's a giant problem that we have here in America.
unidentified
I just hate that.
roseanne barr
I know.
I hate it.
joe rogan
You know, Cher actually brought it up.
She was talking about...
roseanne barr
Yeah, good for Cher.
joe rogan
She was talking about them, talking about immigration, discussing immigration.
She goes, that's fine and good, but we have 60,000 mentally ill, homeless people wandering through the streets of Los Angeles alone.
60,000.
I mean, that's a good-sized, small town.
And it's filled...
Filled with drug addicts and people with psychotic breaks and all sorts of other mental illness.
roseanne barr
Well, they have mental illness, yeah.
I met a kid the other day.
I always talk to the mentally ill because, you know, it's partly that they're so, oh, I forget the word.
Louie uses it, you know.
Well, they're so disenfranchised and ignored and they become invisible.
And then they retreat totally into their psychosis, you know?
And so they can't be reached.
So you always do them a favor just to make eye contact and say, have a nice day or hello.
You're doing them a big healing favor.
But I met this kid, he was about 20, and his eyes all black, the white of his eye.
And I'm like, what happened to your eye?
He goes, I got it tattooed.
I go, how did you possibly sit and let them put tattoo needle in the white of your eye 950,000 times?
And he goes, because I have a deep fear of anything going in my eye.
I've always had that fear, and so this was my way to overcome it.
I go, dude...
joe rogan
That's a rough one.
When do they start tattooing their eyeballs?
roseanne barr
When you're really obsessive-compulsive.
And you're trying to get over one fear by running through the fear and making it happen to you.
And a lot of us do that.
I guess maybe in my psychosis, I might have had a fear of being a symbol of so much to so many.
I think it crumbled me.
They kept saying that.
They kept trying to make me be a symbol of something.
And I guess I am.
If anything, I just want to be a symbol for good jokes.
There shouldn't be no censorship on good jokes.
joe rogan
Do you think that the pressure of fame and of stardom and stuff contributes to this feeling that you worry about the role that you have?
You know, you worry about people being upset at you.
You worry about it, and it's almost like it comes out from that.
Uh-oh.
unidentified
Can I? Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Marijuana.
I'm celebrating Sober October, Roseanne, so I cannot partake.
unidentified
Good for you.
roseanne barr
Can I have yours?
joe rogan
Sure.
roseanne barr
Okay.
joe rogan
You want some weed?
I've got a lot.
roseanne barr
Do you want a drag?
joe rogan
Plenty of weed here.
roseanne barr
It's good.
joe rogan
Jamie's not celebrating Sober October.
Three years in a row.
roseanne barr
I know.
He always had me on in October.
unidentified
Fuck that.
joe rogan
He says, fuck that.
unidentified
I like it.
joe rogan
I think it's good.
It's good to cleanse out the old pipes every now and again.
roseanne barr
I was sober for almost a year off pot.
joe rogan
Yeah?
roseanne barr
Until recently, one drag is good.
joe rogan
One drag is good.
That's the right amount.
It just elevates you a little bit.
It gives you a little lift.
But I tied one on the day before Sober October with Sturgill Simpson.
I don't remember even what we were talking about while we were talking.
roseanne barr
It's just so fun to talk and exchange ideas and feel that nobody's hanging over you to send you to fucking prison.
joe rogan
Yes.
roseanne barr
What the fuck is that?
That can't happen here.
Right.
We can't let that happen here.
joe rogan
We can't let that happen, but that's a natural course of progression, right?
roseanne barr
Well, we're going to have to confront Google and YouTube, obviously, and I think they are getting confronted.
joe rogan
I think they're getting confronted.
roseanne barr
I think everybody's getting it, don't you?
joe rogan
I think.
A lot of people are getting confronted about those kind of things.
roseanne barr
And they need to hear me or you and thousands of us, frankly, say, hey, you guys, bring it back a little, come on, bring it back to the middle, where it makes common sense.
joe rogan
Where it makes common sense.
roseanne barr
Yeah, because this ain't no sense to this.
joe rogan
I think when Trump got elected, a lot of people used that as an excuse.
It was like a green light for them to enforce their own ideology.
They're like, look, this is a bad thing.
We're deeply distraught.
One of the CEOs of Google, one of the main executives of Google, was talking about that recently, about how distraught they were at the election and what a terrible result it was.
And they were, you know, looking at their own role in elections, because that is a thing that social media has now.
People that openly discuss and support a candidate or deny a candidate.
And this is what Tulsi Gabbard's suing for, is that they denied her YouTube searches.
They did something to censor her ability to get her message out.
roseanne barr
Well, I think that people, what they're doing is they're digging and they're going back to who's funding who.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
And I kind of support that because I don't think that I want to give my money to anybody who takes money from terrorists.
Why would I want to pay for somebody to kill me?
joe rogan
Of course.
roseanne barr
Americans don't want that.
That don't make no common sense.
joe rogan
No, that doesn't make any sense.
roseanne barr
Why are they putting waste next to schools?
Why are companies burying waste next to public schools?
joe rogan
Because they can get away with it?
roseanne barr
Where's the public?
How come the public is factored out of all public life, including the tables where public money is apportioned?
There's not one public there.
That's why I ran, because I want to be a John Q. Public.
I'll be that guy.
joe rogan
Who's putting waste next to schools?
roseanne barr
Look it up.
Look it up in New York.
joe rogan
In New York, they're doing that?
roseanne barr
Yeah, everybody gets a payoff, Jill.
Don't act like you're so fucking, like, school yard.
Everybody's getting a fucking payoff to fucking do whatever the hell they can get away with doing.
And they're not getting in trouble for it.
They're unpunished, unindicted.
Look at it!
What is this?
What?
joe rogan
What?
roseanne barr
But everybody says, I don't know anymore.
It's like, how come they're getting away with this shit?
Why are they getting away with lying?
Any of them.
joe rogan
Who's getting away with lying?
roseanne barr
All of them!
joe rogan
Who's them?
roseanne barr
The whole fucking world!
joe rogan
The whole world's lying?
roseanne barr
The whole fucking thing!
It's a lie!
It's a lie pieced together with fucking bullshit!
It don't make any sense because it's not supposed to make sense.
It's senseless and stupid.
joe rogan
Well, it's all people.
That's part of the problem is that human beings are seriously fucking flawed and there's nothing but human beings in the world of humans.
It's all flawed people running around trying to make sense of this thing.
roseanne barr
Here's how it's got to go, okay?
Okay, it's all about grandmothers.
Take your power.
joe rogan
Grandmothers?
roseanne barr
Yes, every grandmother in this country is responsible, I figure, for between 15 to 100 people.
A woman who lives that long and keeps her family around her, that's exactly what happens.
And it's the truth of it.
So I call that a community.
You know, depending on where they are geographically.
But that community, in the words of Malcolm X, why I ran for president on that party, it needs to create community health and community sovereignty and community...
What's the word?
Where it just keeps going.
joe rogan
Momentum?
roseanne barr
No, it...
I can't think of the word, but it's a kind of farming where it's just like...
It feeds itself.
It's self-generating.
Do you know what I mean?
The economy of that particular community is self-generating.
For instance, the pineapples you grow, you sell at the market.
You know, that kind of thing.
joe rogan
Self-sustainable.
roseanne barr
Sustainable, thank you.
I couldn't think of that word.
Getting old sucks, man.
joe rogan
What was the word you meant to tell?
You invented a good word.
What was it again?
roseanne barr
Synchronicitus?
Synchronicitus.
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
That's a good one.
joe rogan
We're going to use that one.
roseanne barr
We try to do that in Hawaii where we create not an artificial economy but a barter economy.
And of course it's all based on land as is all wealth.
Because you can grow shit and feed people and that's what matters.
So the biggest problem facing us as humans is how do we get the food in front of the hungry kids?
That's our problem, but we go to all this other shit rather than that.
So we need to start over, get grandmothers in charge.
Every grandmother, there'll be a community grandmothers organization, all based on the nation of Iroquois, which was how the United States was actually founded, because Benjamin Franklin was a fan of the Iroquois people and the way they ran their government, which was run by a grandmother's council.
And that's what he invented the 13, you know, they came up with the 13 Colonies United because it was 13 tribes and the Iroquois were the judge.
joe rogan
But didn't you just get done telling us about how evil your grandmother was?
roseanne barr
Well, she was good, but she was like money hungry, you know.
She's a really good person.
Well, I'm kind of like her.
joe rogan
Ringing that bell for America?
roseanne barr
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Get down here.
Take out my shit.
roseanne barr
Oh, no, I'm not.
I think people should be paid fairly.
joe rogan
Yes.
roseanne barr
That's what I learned from that.
It's like, God damn, you know.
He would have done all that and more if you'd incentivized him.
unidentified
What's that capitalist word?
joe rogan
Incentivized.
roseanne barr
But it's true.
He had a good heart and they ran him out of town.
That ain't good.
See, that ain't self-sufficient.
You gotta stop before you ruin everything.
It ain't sustainable.
Stop before you ruin it and keep it going.
joe rogan
So, have you completely given up?
I know you're gonna go on tour with Dice.
roseanne barr
I did it already.
joe rogan
You did it.
How many dates do you guys do?
roseanne barr
Two.
joe rogan
That's it?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're done.
roseanne barr
Well, we're done for now.
unidentified
Did you enjoy it?
roseanne barr
I'm like, I don't want to travel when it's cold.
unidentified
You don't want to travel?
joe rogan
No.
roseanne barr
I can't take it.
unidentified
Tell you the truth.
joe rogan
Do you live here in Hawaii or do you just live in Hawaii?
roseanne barr
I live here, Hawaii, and a few other places.
unidentified
But when you're here, why don't you come to the store?
roseanne barr
The comedy store?
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
You know, I get so nervous about it, and I mean, I wear these deep pens, and they are not holding it back.
I gotta get the next level, and then I will.
I get so fucking nervous.
I mean, they shattered me.
joe rogan
Listen, I'll take you in there.
I'd be happy to.
roseanne barr
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
Anytime you want.
roseanne barr
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
roseanne barr
I'm afraid of that audience.
unidentified
No.
roseanne barr
Are they all progressives?
I hope so.
God, I want to bust a few hands.
I'm going to get in a fucking fist fight with a few of them.
joe rogan
Most people are just people.
They're great.
roseanne barr
Not my kids.
They're still progressive.
It fucking pisses me off so bad.
joe rogan
Well, they're probably good people.
They want to do the right thing, and they think that's the way to do the right thing.
roseanne barr
Fuck the carbon footprint.
I'm old.
If I want to fuck it, I will.
You know what I mean?
Fuck it.
I've already left a huge one.
I'm not going to back off now.
joe rogan
The problem is everything leaves a carbon footprint, including organic farming.
roseanne barr
I know.
That's what I'm finding out in Hawaii.
Now I'm just fucking selling my farm.
joe rogan
Well, I think as time goes on, with solar power and batteries and battery life getting extended due to technology, they're going to figure out better ways to do a lot of the things they're doing now.
But regenerative farming is really important, you know, especially a place like where you have, where you have control of the land.
You know, there's a lot of methods that you could use to do all sorts of things to grow your own food out there.
roseanne barr
The thing that's so great about Hawaii is that it has so much, oh Christ, I can't, diversity.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
roseanne barr
In the people and their crops.
joe rogan
Yes.
roseanne barr
And, you know, that keeps everything really healthy.
joe rogan
And everyone's stuck on an island together.
unidentified
They have to be nice.
roseanne barr
We have to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
And we have so many Asian people that they really do have a unique—it's not like my way of thinking.
It's kind of Jewish, but then at the end it goes—it's very utilitarian.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
roseanne barr
I don't know.
I like the way they design things, especially the new farming things that I'm seeing on the island.
joe rogan
Well, the vibe of the island, and you're on the big island, but I love all the islands, but the vibe of Hawaii in general, it's like this very interesting vibe, because it's friendly and nice, but proud and strong, and they know they have a really beautiful, unique place, and they have a really incredible history.
roseanne barr
Yeah, they do.
joe rogan
Of people that were so bold that they got in these small handmade boats thousands of years ago and made their way through the goddamn ocean.
roseanne barr
Can you believe that?
joe rogan
I mean, how many people...
roseanne barr
Did you know they hung their balls in the water?
joe rogan
To find out which way the tide is going.
unidentified
Yes.
roseanne barr
I mean...
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
roseanne barr
That right there is so great.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Because that shows that men have a total purpose, right?
Exactly.
I mean, it does, right, Jill?
Because, I mean, what is that telling them?
What is it telling them?
joe rogan
Well, explain to people when they did it.
roseanne barr
Because the balls are free-floating in the sack?
joe rogan
When there was no wind and there was no current or there was no visible waves, they would put their balls in the water to find out which way the current was going because they would feel it on their balls.
That's why they did it.
roseanne barr
That is so fucking helpful to the human race.
joe rogan
Yeah, their balls really saved them.
unidentified
And they got to Hawaii.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, they got to the most beautiful place on earth, and they did it.
roseanne barr
People were mad in Hawaii over that movie Moana, which is my favorite movie.
I've seen it ten times.
joe rogan
Why are the people mad?
roseanne barr
Well, some of them were mad, the activist sort.
joe rogan
But The Rock is Hawaiian.
roseanne barr
No, I know.
He's the big guy.
He's Pacific Islander.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
roseanne barr
But anyway...
joe rogan
But he grew up in Hawaii, right?
roseanne barr
I can't remember the story.
joe rogan
I believe he did.
roseanne barr
Well, whatever.
He's fucking gorgeous.
And so is Jason Manoa.
Fuck.
joe rogan
Momoa, yeah.
roseanne barr
Momoa?
God damn it.
Anyway, so every...
Those are like, yes, I'm real.
That is pulchritude.
unidentified
Yeah, for sure.
roseanne barr
That's male pulchritude right there.
Some cheesecake and beefsteak and pulchritude.
It's like, whoa, would you love to see them bare naked?
joe rogan
Have you been paying attention to the controversy about building that new telescope in Hawaii?
roseanne barr
Oh, of course.
I prayed against it.
joe rogan
Did you?
roseanne barr
They came to me, you know, this is something that shouldn't be told, so I'll tell it.
And I said, don't worry about it, sis.
I'm putting in the Jew two cents.
On this here.
joe rogan
You don't want them to build a telescope?
roseanne barr
Well, not on the people's holy place.
So I went out there and I done some prayers for direction.
And it stopped three days later.
And now it's back on, but all the people went up there.
But I like to say to the people, I'm glad you got the telescope.
I say this and everybody hates me.
It's okay, but I just have to say.
Maybe...
The telescope, which will be the new eye to behold the entire universe, which will create like a different kind of a human mind forever.
Maybe that should be there.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, it's a very unique place in terms of where it sits in the world.
roseanne barr
Well, it's where Pele is.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
That's where Pele was born and the Hawaiian people, they say, they believe that they came out of that mountain, you know.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
And that's their, what do you call it, their genesis is that particular Mauna Kea, Mother Mountain.
joe rogan
So they don't want anything built on there.
Maybe there's some sort of a compromise because the idea of that place is that it's in a very unique place on Earth to view the cosmos.
Have you been to the Keck Observatory?
unidentified
No.
roseanne barr
I've never gone there because I, you know, I should.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
The view up there, it changes your place, like your idea of your place in the world.
The first time I saw it was...
roseanne barr
We're so visual beings.
Yes.
You know what changed me are those round films about the wall of China.
Whatever those places are, those theaters.
joe rogan
Oh, the IMAX? Yeah, IMAX. Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, those gigantic theaters where everything's around you and you get to see it visually.
Well, the Keck, I've been to it a few times, but one time I caught it perfectly, where there was no moon out, and the sky was clear, and it was unbelievably beautiful.
You see the whole Milky Way.
You see all the stars.
The entire sky is filled with stars.
It didn't even seem real.
And it just makes you feel like you're looking through the windshield of a spaceship flying through the cosmos.
roseanne barr
Well, there's this app you can get to that will chart the stars for you.
And it's so cool.
And if you hold your phone up, which I float in my pool, and you hold it up there, and then you look and it's like, yeah, there's this, you know.
Whatever they're called, I can't remember.
joe rogan
I had a similar app.
Maybe it's the same one.
roseanne barr
There's the Spot Constellation.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's incredible.
roseanne barr
It is incredible.
joe rogan
But there's nothing like seeing it.
roseanne barr
And yet all of that pales when it comes to me thinking about me.
Isn't that funny?
It's just so incredible that it works like that.
joe rogan
Well, that's one of the things that helps people think about their place in the world when you see something as magnificent and enormous as the Milky Way.
I mean, you see the Milky Way so clear that it doesn't even look real.
No, it doesn't.
I've only caught it like that once.
The other two times that I went there, it was still beautiful.
You see everything.
The other two times that I went, it was still beautiful, but not as stunning as the one time where I caught it.
One time I messed up and I got there and it was a full moon.
It was a mess.
You couldn't hardly see anything.
The other time was really cloudy.
It was hard to see.
But the one time I saw it, it was just, oh.
To this day, I think back on it.
It blows me away because it really shifted.
In a real tangible way, the way I viewed people on a planet in space.
It's undeniable because it's so gorgeous and so epic.
roseanne barr
Centering your eye and expanding your whole mind and consciousness.
And that does something to your big-ass program DNA shit, you know?
Once the eye sees it and takes it in, it's like the image, once the image is digested, you know, the image, you know, they say, where does it stop being that and become this?
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
You know, all that integration.
That's the word.
joe rogan
Integration, yeah.
roseanne barr
In the mind.
joe rogan
I think that lack of ability to see that is one of the things that's really screwed us up more than anything about modern civilization with all our lights, all our street lights and city lights.
You can't see the sky anymore.
When there's no lights at all, then you see all the stars.
And then you realize, oh, we're in space.
We're in space.
This isn't just the nighttime.
I'm not just in Manhattan looking at the sky.
We are in space.
When you have a full blackout in a place like Manhattan and all of a sudden you look at the sky and you're like, what is going on?
All these stars have been here the whole time, but you could never see them.
Light pollution.
It's a terrible thing.
roseanne barr
Oh, I never heard it put like that.
joe rogan
Light pollution is a terrible thing that we've done.
We've denied people the view of the most gorgeous thing in all of the universe, the universe itself.
roseanne barr
There's a lot of beautiful things.
Well, they say they put up those lights to help the homeless so they don't get raped and murdered.
That's what San Francisco did.
That's what San Francisco did to help the homeless.
joe rogan
Well, there's always going to be lights there.
roseanne barr
There's just lights from buildings.
No, but they increased the lights.
Thanks, Nance.
I mean, it really helped, though.
You've got to admit, that really helped so many people.
joe rogan
The lights?
roseanne barr
Yeah, not to get raped and stuff when they're living in a pile of shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
And a few broken needles there.
joe rogan
One of my guests recently.
roseanne barr
Have you seen it?
joe rogan
Yes, I have.
roseanne barr
It's like, where was that place we used to always talk about in India?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
roseanne barr
Calcutta.
It's fucking full on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
And it goes for blocks.
And I just don't think that in California that should be allowed.
joe rogan
Well, it's way worse than it's ever been before, and it keeps getting worse.
roseanne barr
And then what happened with those fires?
How come they don't have any water?
What was all that fire stuff?
joe rogan
Well, it was a perfect combination of wind and dry things, and the long drought that we had.
There was a lot of dead trees that just burned through everything.
That was terrible.
roseanne barr
It's bad land management, don't you think?
joe rogan
There's certainly that, but there's also a lack of resources.
There's a lack of understanding that something like that can happen.
Sometimes it takes something like that to happen.
roseanne barr
Maybe that was hitting bottom like Tiffany says and maybe now it's going to come back up.
That'd be good if it, you know, did the hourglass flip where it's like, okay, we hit the bottom now and now let's build back something good and better and stronger.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
You know, just by talking to each other more.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
I hope so.
roseanne barr
I mean, maybe I could do a podcast and try to unite people, but there's so many things people could do to help their community right now that doesn't cost nothing.
And a lot of people my age, you know, well, they have some free time.
I mean, they're probably all babysitting their grandkids like we all are because their parents are working.
But if you have some free time...
in this generation, which happens to be the most educated and the richest of women that's ever been, maybe you could put some time towards doing something that helped the children in your community.
Yeah.
We could start that in little pods all over the place.
And then we could all report to each other the data so we can make it bigger and more connected.
joe rogan
Yeah, I haven't seen anybody that has a real solution for the homeless problem in L.A., or even a solution.
I haven't heard one thing that makes any sense.
roseanne barr
People are saying they're going to do them Walmarts like that.
On the internet, I saw it.
joe rogan
Walmarts?
roseanne barr
Yeah, and Walmarts are going to house the homeless.
That's what I saw.
They said it's going to be a crash, and there's going to be a lot of people losing their homes again, and they're going to have to go to Walmarts and live.
joe rogan
Live in Walmarts?
unidentified
Like camps.
joe rogan
They're going to turn Walmarts into camps?
unidentified
Like the parking lot, you mean?
roseanne barr
Yeah, the whole thing.
The whole unit.
joe rogan
Really?
roseanne barr
Yeah, like where they put people who come here and they have to house a lot of people.
You know, like they did after Katrina in the Super Bowl.
I mean, they have to house a lot of people after a catastrophe.
An economic catastrophe causes homelessness.
joe rogan
Yes.
roseanne barr
That has to be addressed, right?
joe rogan
Forget about the future, right?
Like, what about right now?
The homeless problem right now, how would anybody fix that?
60,000 people just in LA. How do you fix that?
roseanne barr
Well, a lot of people do this.
A lot of people that I know actually go and meet one homeless person and try to help that one person and take them into their homes.
These are people who are wealthy and they help them clean up and go to school.
People are doing things like that individually and it works.
joe rogan
Well, the problem, I think, though, is mental illness and drug addiction and, you know, most people don't have enough time.
roseanne barr
Well, first they're going to have to get off drugs.
joe rogan
Right.
But most people don't have enough time to babysit another adult human being and try to guide them through this life.
roseanne barr
Well, some of us like to stick our nose in other people's business and get involved, too.
I'm an old Jew.
I love it.
And I love telling people just exactly what I think they should do to better their self.
And you know what?
I've done it a lot and it's worked every time.
I've never had one failure.
joe rogan
You've never had one?
roseanne barr
I pride myself on that.
joe rogan
And telling someone what to do, you mean?
roseanne barr
Hell yes.
joe rogan
Really?
roseanne barr
Yep.
Except myself.
joe rogan
So you're bad at giving yourself advice.
You're good at other people.
roseanne barr
Yep.
I know exactly what should be done to help people turn their life around.
I've done it a lot, and it's always worked.
Some of them are just assholes, though.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
Like Tom.
You know, when you sober up a guy, you know, a sober asshole...
I mean, a drunk asshole can sometimes become a sober asshole, and there's not much difference.
And people should be very aware of that, particularly women.
Just being sober, I don't mean shit.
It's what do they do.
It don't matter to me, like in my act, I want to say, good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
You know who you are.
You know, because I don't care what you look like or nothing, it's what you do and how you act toward me.
If you're not nice to me, I'm not going to be nice to you.
joe rogan
How was the tour when you were touring with Dice?
I know you went on stage with him in Vegas.
That's when I heard about it.
roseanne barr
Yeah, he brought me back from the dead.
unidentified
Did you plan on going up that night?
roseanne barr
No.
He told me to and I was like, oh my god, no.
I went in the bed and I had like 40 nervous breakdowns.
I called everyone I knew and hardly anyone takes my calls anymore.
joe rogan
Really?
roseanne barr
Yeah, because they're like, stop!
Because I obsess over and over and over and over.
Should I go on?
I don't know if I should go on.
I think I wouldn't be able to do it if I could.
Really?
So you think I should go?
I don't think I could do it.
I can't go on.
Why would you say I'd get on?
unidentified
Get up there, Roseanne!
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he talked to you.
roseanne barr
He's like a big brother to me.
joe rogan
I love that guy.
roseanne barr
But I never had a big brother, you know.
I was the big sister.
And he said, come down here.
You only have to do five, and I'm going to sit on the stage behind you.
So how much better can that get?
During his show.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
You can't go wrong.
roseanne barr
And he worked it out to where it would look like it was just happening.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
We had to rehearse that a few times.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it was well received.
The people in the audience loved it.
I know that.
roseanne barr
And then this tour, it was so wonderful.
It was a fucking boatload of fun.
Oh my god, I had so much fun.
A lot of my friends came.
joe rogan
Where'd you guys go?
roseanne barr
The audience was great.
We went somewhere in Long Island and somewhere in Atlantic City.
And the audience was great.
And they were very kind to me.
And I had a blast, I have to say.
joe rogan
How much time did you do?
roseanne barr
Because I really got to unload all the shit of people I hate, who I hate and why.
I did an hour.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
roseanne barr
Usually I do 90, but, you know, we were sharing, so I'm like, good, I'm happy to do an hour.
And then Dice came out, and, you know, it was like...
That guy, you know how he is.
He's a fucking master at what he does.
Fucking guy.
I can't believe it.
I mean, the level of performance.
Because I'm like this.
You know, that's it.
So then he's like this.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
Okay, but he's over there.
You know.
Yeah.
joe rogan
He gets into it.
roseanne barr
Yeah, like a rock star.
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
And, you know, they loved him.
It was mostly men.
The couple jokes I had about feminism, it was silent.
It was just silent.
Because I have this one joke that usually kills her.
I go, I'm talking about Caitlyn Jenner.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
She got the, you know, she went full chest.
Bruce Jenner went full Chaz Bono.
And now he's Caitlyn Jenner.
She's Caitlyn Jenner.
And she went full Chaz Bono.
Well, a little different.
I mean, Chaz, she had the adedictomy.
But, no, that's the name.
But it's way harder to go from a man to a woman because of what they do.
They take you in this room, they tie you to this table, they come in there, and they cut your pay in half.
And it wasn't one laugh.
Not one.
Oh well.
joe rogan
They should have laughed.
roseanne barr
That pissed me off!
joe rogan
So you did two, and that's it?
roseanne barr
We did two, and then Dice goes, okay, let's digest.
Let's see, you know, after the winter's over, if we want to do more, let's do more.
Because neither of us wants to go anywhere in the winter.
We're both Jewish.
Dice wants everyone to think he's Italian, but he's very Jewish.
joe rogan
Andrew Silverstein.
roseanne barr
Saperstein.
joe rogan
Silverstein.
roseanne barr
I thought it was Saperstein.
joe rogan
Is it?
roseanne barr
Yeah, it's Saperstein.
joe rogan
Really?
roseanne barr
Yeah, Andy Sap.
joe rogan
Okay.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
Who knows?
I could be wrong.
I can't remember anything.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could be right, too, though.
roseanne barr
I think I'm right.
joe rogan
So he's...
roseanne barr
He's a genius at performance level for 90 fucking minutes.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, I've always loved Dice.
roseanne barr
State of the art, yeah.
joe rogan
So he's like back and forth to Vegas and here, right?
roseanne barr
He just moved to New York.
He's getting so much work.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
roseanne barr
He actually took an apartment in New York.
I'm like, you better have two bedrooms and I might crash there.
Well, what kind of work is he doing?
Because New York would be fun to do.
You know, he's doing a lot of stand-up.
Oh, stand-up in New York.
His whole new thing is a mature view of that same guy.
joe rogan
Oh, interesting.
roseanne barr
You know, like dating the same girls as his sons and stuff.
It's good stuff.
It's funny.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
roseanne barr
But I might move to New York, too, because, you know, somebody's got to shake something up.
unidentified
Yeah.
roseanne barr
And I feel like shaking something up, and then I get very tired.
Just go to Hawaii.
But, you know, I just – the thing I mostly want to shake up is comics be brave.
Stick up for each other.
Now, if you guys had stuck up more for me, I think it would have stopped.
But you ignored it because you're like, well, she is a little bitch anyway.
She's done a lot of fucking stupid shit.
joe rogan
I think sometimes when the shit hits the fan with certain people, other folks get nervous that it's going to come at them if they defend you.
roseanne barr
Of course, but, you know, now they're starting.
It's real weird to see a turnaround like Piers Morgan.
You know, he was quick to call me a racist on his show.
He said she's absolutely a racist to have compared this and that and saying she looks like this.
Well, of course, I never said that.
That's his interpretation of what I said.
Which now he has a little bit more time away from, so he's just called and said he would love to interview me, and my publicist said, well, after calling her a racist, I doubt that will happen.
And he said, well, I'm very sorry, and I want to apologize to her.
I reacted, you know, a knee-jerk reaction, as did many others.
joe rogan
I think he's also recognizing, and he wrote some—he did some stuff about it recently where he was on— I think he was on the Ben Shapiro show where he was talking about it and there was a clip and I actually retweeted the clip.
roseanne barr
I'm going to do a Jew beatdown on that Ben Shapiro one of these days.
Yep.
joe rogan
Why?
roseanne barr
Because he needs it.
joe rogan
What does he need a beatdown for?
roseanne barr
Because he's a young man.
That's how I'm going to talk to people now.
Listen to me, young man.
You may think you know a thing or two about Judaism, but you do not know as much as I know, so you sit down and listen.
That's what I'll say.
joe rogan
Well, maybe he would just listen and you don't have to do all that.
roseanne barr
Well, I just did it, so whatever.
joe rogan
Anyway, Pierce Morgan has been talking a lot about how ridiculous this outrage culture is.
roseanne barr
Cancel culture, they call it.
They call it that because in my show, nobody else got canceled.
You know, what's her name called?
The president's Jewish daughter, a see you word, see you next Tuesday.
And nothing happened to her because she liked Hillary.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
I mean, it's just going to show, it just was all partisan.
And our media, that belongs to the people.
The airwaves are the people's airwave, another way to show public money going into private hands through corporate maneuvering.
But the airwaves belong to the public.
So you can't use the public's airwaves the way I see it to dumb down the public so they won't vote for you not putting poison in their community or their food.
It's all a scam from top to bottom.
It's all a scam, every bit of it.
It's going to implode.
It is imploding.
joe rogan
You mean society itself?
roseanne barr
I don't think society, as long as people have love in their hearts for their children and their children's friends and each other and community.
unidentified
You think government?
joe rogan
Government's going to implode.
roseanne barr
It's going to collapse.
joe rogan
We keep trying, but I want to get back to this 700 years of artificial intelligence.
roseanne barr
Yeah, well I just explained it for the last however long we were talking.
joe rogan
But what do you mean by artificial intelligence?
How is artificial intelligence running everything?
roseanne barr
It's MKUltra Mind Control.
A mind control program that shoved down the fucking throats of a populace.
Of a captive population.
joe rogan
What is happening?
When you say MKUltra Mind Control.
roseanne barr
Yeah.
joe rogan
Artificial intelligence.
What is happening to us?
roseanne barr
Well, we're being bred...
For certain things.
joe rogan
We're being bred?
roseanne barr
Well, we were bred, but we're being activated for certain things.
I'm mostly talking about the mentally ill, because I can see where all these things, these terrible things that happened, that was a mentally ill person who had mental health issues, and that's why it needs to be talked about.
Mental health issues come in all colors.
It's time to seriously do something about it rather than just looking the other way as people die in filth on your fancy streets of America.
We can't do this.
We have to have something else.
It can't be what it has been either.
It has to be a synthesis between all sorts of economic plans.
Johnny and I, we talk about this 24-7, me and my boyfriend.
That's all we live for is to come up with a solution.
And we talk about peopleism, which is a hybrid.
It has to be a synchronized hybrid of the use of money.
Making capitalism local and kind.
We can't believe nobody's thought of it yet, but this was part of my green plan for the Peace and Freedom Party as a Socialist in 2012. Well, I see that the Ocasio Solitude, whatever her name is, or AOC, I can't remember, Well, she took my green thing and fucked it up, and I'm pissed.
Because I did put forth solutions.
In fact, before Trump, I was the only politician running for any kind of office who came out with solutions.
And I thought that I influenced Trump because I ran my campaign totally on Twitter and self-financed and, you know, all those things and talking about a plan to make our communities work for us, the citizens.
joe rogan
Are you in contact with him?
roseanne barr
Yeah, a little.
joe rogan
A little bit?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh yeah, it's fucking exciting.
roseanne barr
It is.
It's like a fucking Mick Jagger rock star.
But he's bigger than Mick Jagger.
He's bigger than the Pope.
I mean, he is.
And what happened today in the Vatican, that's what I was going to ask you today.
Did you see?
unidentified
No.
roseanne barr
You saw it, right?
What did you see?
joe rogan
I haven't even looked at the news once today.
roseanne barr
Let's check in with Conspiracy Headquarters.
joe rogan
Jamie's not Conspiracy Headquarters.
roseanne barr
Well, I mean on the internet.
joe rogan
Oh.
roseanne barr
Jamie.
What does it say about what happened?
joe rogan
Jamie's like the opposite of Conspiracy Headquarters.
unidentified
What happened in the Vatican today, according to...
roseanne barr
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
A raid of the Vatican?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jamie vernon
Five officials and employees were suspended.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jamie vernon
Something to do with finances.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, finances.
It should be kid fucking.
roseanne barr
A lot of computers.
No, no, honey.
joe rogan
Kid fucking and dead bodies.
unidentified
No, no, no.
roseanne barr
A lot of computers were taken.
joe rogan
Oh.
It's going to be a lot of kid porn.
roseanne barr
Yes.
joe rogan
Guarantee.
roseanne barr
There'll be a lot of horrible shit.
Oh, for sure.
unidentified
Like any place you look, whether it's in the church or, you know, Yeah, but the Vatican's like uniquely gross in that regard.
roseanne barr
I think there's 30 women who live in that city.
You know that it's its own nation?
joe rogan
Well, it's its own nation, yeah.
roseanne barr
And there's 30 women in that nation.
See, what does that tell you?
That kind of tells you something, I think.
joe rogan
Well, when they were looking for that missing girl, when they found bodies.
roseanne barr
A lot of kids come through there.
joe rogan
Thousands of bones.
roseanne barr
A lot of teachers bring their students there to see history, because it does have history.
That's what makes me mad, is when it has a history of art, and it's all fucking art is totally fucking compromised by church and state.
So that the only way you can see it is by supporting their war on us.
Something else is going to happen.
Like Tiffany's talking about a new way of art, you know, it's kind of like crowdsource art.
I just like those ideas.
Like, what if we made a movie that way?
That'd be cool.
joe rogan
Well, Jamie, what's the rate about?
roseanne barr
Financial information and computers.
jamie vernon
They're not fully saying because it's being investigated at the moment.
roseanne barr
It was the Vatican police who did it.
That's what's so great.
For a long time I've been saying or feeling like all the good people are coming together and leaving the bad people by the side of the way.
That's what we have to do.
We cannot include those parts of our people's Who are bad anymore, and that's how they worked us for a couple generations here.
But now we've got to let our own bad people go, and we don't protect nothing bad.
We embrace good in every other, all worldwide good comes to good.
And it even happened with the Vatican police, the good, because I always say like when I talk spirituality, I know you don't care about astrology or any of those things that I'm into, but I felt like...
The good was winning over the bad for a long, long time now and tipping the balance.
And this was proof to me because it's like the good came together against the bad.
Together.
That's what's going to happen everywhere.
It is happening.
It's just really chilling and wonderful to think about the things that, you know, President Trump has done by one or two actions he's taken.
joe rogan
Like what?
roseanne barr
Well, he's so nice to the Jewish people, Joe.
He's the only president in the whole fucking western world who ever liked us.
joe rogan
Really?
roseanne barr
Yeah.
He liked us most.
joe rogan
Obama didn't like the Jewish people?
unidentified
No.
roseanne barr
Are you kidding?
joe rogan
No.
roseanne barr
No?
No.
joe rogan
George Bush?
roseanne barr
No.
joe rogan
No?
unidentified
No.
roseanne barr
In another hallway.
No, he don't.
He likes some.
He likes some of them.
joe rogan
What else has Trump done that you really like?
roseanne barr
Well, when his daughter is there, she will light the Sabbath candles in the White House on Friday night, Ivanka.
joe rogan
So you're just all about anything Jewish.
roseanne barr
Not anything.
joe rogan
But a lot of things.
roseanne barr
Only the good.
I don't like the bad.
I'm for the good.
joe rogan
Right.
roseanne barr
And the good is, hey, we have the ability to really fix some shit.
That's the best part.
We can travel deserts.
It takes us 40 years to go three miles because we're so stupid.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
But once we get it right, we can keep building something that works for all of us, and we can all actually like each other.
And then I could, as a grandmother, I feel that I'm denied this, to be able to travel freely in the world going to different cultures and sampling their wonderful foods.
joe rogan
You're denied this?
roseanne barr
Yes.
joe rogan
How are you denied this?
roseanne barr
Well, because there are some countries who don't welcome Jewish people.
joe rogan
Okay.
roseanne barr
But I like their food, so I don't see why they can't have me over.
I was recently invited to Egypt, though, because I've bitched so much online about why do they not?
They like me.
Everyone likes me.
I'm not a mean person.
I'm mean to the devil.
I don't like that goddamn devil.
joe rogan
You think the devil's real?
roseanne barr
The devil in my head is.
joe rogan
What's the devil in your head say?
What's the worst thing it's ever said?
roseanne barr
Oh, Joe.
You don't want to go down that road, baby.
Said the worst things you could say.
joe rogan
But do you think it's really the devil?
roseanne barr
Oh, yeah.
Well, it's not me.
joe rogan
But do you think it's mental illness?
roseanne barr
Yeah, that's my devil.
Right.
And like for a lot of us, we do have that devil voice.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of people do.
roseanne barr
We got a devil voice.
joe rogan
Well, we're the ancestors of some pretty violent animals.
roseanne barr
You think so?
I used to think that way until this whole Planet of the Apes thing, Joe.
And now I'm going to tell you exactly what I think about that.
I think apes evolved from humans.
joe rogan
So humans were first.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then, well, you know there's a whole fossil record, right?
unidentified
Huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, they actually understand the various steps.
roseanne barr
Well, they think they understand.
joe rogan
Well, they do it by carbon isotope dating.
roseanne barr
Nope, I'm not going to accept it.
joe rogan
Nope, not accepting carbon dating.
roseanne barr
That's why they call it the theory of evolution, because it's not correct.
joe rogan
Is it carbon isotope dating, or is it carbon isotopes with the use of tests for drugs?
roseanne barr
Do you believe in evolution?
joe rogan
Yes.
roseanne barr
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Have you looked around lately?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think it's perfect.
I think there's a problem with society that we let, I mean, it's a terrible thing to say, but there's a lot of people that don't really have the best genetics or the best life experiences or the best things to offer, and they're breeding and they're doing a terrible job of raising children.
roseanne barr
I so agree.
That's one thing I am really getting pissed at is how these women are raising their kids.
When I see them out, I get so goddamn mad, Joe.
I get so fucking irate.
joe rogan
A lot of terrible men out there, too.
roseanne barr
I've seen more mean women to their kids than men.
joe rogan
There's a lot of mean men.
roseanne barr
Well, they're usually mean to the mom.
The men are usually mean to the women.
But the women take it out on the kid, don't you think?
joe rogan
I think men are mean to kids, too.
I mean, there's just mean people, and someone was mean to them, and it's an imperfect cycle.
I think that's what I'm getting at, is that evolution, even if it is real, there's a lot of people that are, I mean, it's not like the best versions of humans are all that's represented today in 2019. I just want to make sure everyone gets mentioned so nobody...
roseanne barr
Because the thing I think that is the enemy of humans is self-righteous indignation.
I think that's the devil.
And when that devil starts talking in my head, that's always where it starts with the self-righteous indignation, which gives me the right to do any mean shit I want.
joe rogan
Treat people like the other.
They're wrong.
They're the other.
You're the right one.
roseanne barr
And it's not going to work.
It's just not going to work.
joe rogan
Roseanne, I hope you do a podcast.
I really do.
And if you really want to do one, I'm going to help you.
I'm going to connect you.
I'll connect you to someone who will set it up, plug and play.
roseanne barr
Because I always think I could really help a lot of people because I have learned to live with catastrophic mental illness.
I mean, I fuck up sometimes, obviously.
But, you know, if I don't take care of myself, yeah, I do.
joe rogan
Maybe you're a journalist friend.
Maybe she could do it with you.
I think you guys, I think it'd be very entertaining.
I think you could have a good time.
I think you could enjoy yourself, too.
roseanne barr
Well, thanks for having me.
It was wonderful to see you again.
unidentified
My pleasure.
joe rogan
It's always great to see you.
Anytime.
roseanne barr
Could you tell I did my own eye makeup?
joe rogan
You look wonderful.
roseanne barr
I do?
Oh, good.
See, that's the only part of this whole thing I'll remember.
That and the Vatican deal.
joe rogan
Are you still active on Twitter?
Can people still find you there?
roseanne barr
Oh, no.
joe rogan
No.
roseanne barr
Oh, no, the kids took it away.
They won't give me the thing.
joe rogan
What about Instagram?
roseanne barr
Nope.
joe rogan
Nope.
Good.
roseanne barr
You don't need to.
My kids put good pictures up there.
joe rogan
Oh, that's good.
roseanne barr
I got my own YouTube channel.
Oh, yeah.
I forgot.
I got my own YouTube channel where I try to sneak my drunken videos on, but my kids force me to delete.
But I do try.
joe rogan
Well, you got to get away from those kids.
roseanne barr
I know.
I'm going to China.
I'm not Beijing.
I'm going to Beijing.
joe rogan
We'll talk after this.
I'm going to try to set you up.
Thank you, Roseanne.
Thank you.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
Bye, everybody.
roseanne barr
Can I pick this up?
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