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April 6, 2019 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1278 - Kevin Hart
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joe rogan
Here we go in five, four, three, two, one.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Out of all the fucking people that make me feel lazy in this world, there's two, that make me feel you and the rock.
You fuckers don't look like you ever sleep, man.
unidentified
No, no.
kevin hart
No days off.
That's why I love his unattractive ass.
He's a person that motivates me, inspires me, and the fact that we're co-workers, we're friends.
I think it's a blessing.
It's a blessing to be around that because it truly is uplifting.
It just makes you weed out the circle.
When you're around people that truly give you some good, serve a good value to you and your life, you then look at those that don't and you can then push away.
I'm big on...
I'm big on personality.
I'm big on energy.
I'm big on will and wants.
I believe that it's contagious.
So if you have a bunch of laziness and a bunch of bullshit around you, naturally it's going to feed off.
You're going to find yourself becoming what's in your environment.
joe rogan
I feel the exact same way.
kevin hart
I see that in you.
joe rogan
I see that in you.
I feel like it's a scene in Avatar.
I see you.
I see you.
Yeah, but a guy like that, I always wonder how much of that is...
I've had sleep experts on the podcast that tell you there's real problems if you don't get enough sleep.
You have a much higher risk of Alzheimer's, all these other serious issues.
But I see a guy like The Rock, I'm like, how the fuck does he sleep?
Where's the room for sleep?
kevin hart
You know, that's true.
I can't say that I've witnessed the sleep patterns.
But he's a late ass...
So he does.
I know he's sleeping at some point.
What are we waiting on?
What are we waiting on, DJ? God damn it.
He's probably getting his rest, which is well deserved.
But, you know, when you say you had these sleep experts and stuff on, it's always a thing that I go back and forth about because what is enough sleep?
Like, I'm a person, I function high off of six to seven hours.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
Six, seven hours, I'm...
I'm functioning.
Five hours, I'm great.
Do I do the five hour thing all the time?
No.
But if I have to, I'm fine.
I don't need the eight and the nine.
I feel like that's too much for me.
I'm an early riser and now that I'm getting older, if I can get in that bed by 9.30 or 10 on an off work day, I'm very happy with that.
But then I'm up at 5.30.
I'm up at 5.30.
So what is enough sleep?
What do they tell you is enough sleep?
joe rogan
It really depends on the person.
There are people that have a gene where they can just sleep four hours a night and they're fine.
unidentified
I got that.
joe rogan
You might got it.
kevin hart
I got that.
What is that?
Does that mean my blood is gold?
What is that?
joe rogan
It just means you got special genes.
kevin hart
God damn right.
I'm alien.
I got some shit.
joe rogan
There are people that just don't need as much.
They can go a long time without sleep.
kevin hart
Diagnose me, I'm one of those people.
joe rogan
You might be.
I bet a lot of high-functioning people are.
Because your body tends to...
You get more efficient.
You're always going.
You're always burning hard.
So your body's like, when it's time to shut down, it's like, shut down.
Get that five, six hours in.
Alright, back to work.
Let's go.
kevin hart
I will confess this.
I am an amazing catnapper.
unidentified
Wow.
kevin hart
Yeah, I'm one of those guys.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
kevin hart
If you stop talking to me long enough, I'm going to fall asleep right here.
It's something about silence and just not doing anything.
joe rogan
Well, you're probably going on momentum all the time.
You're probably going on motivation and momentum.
And then when your body has this break, your body's like, we can use a little sleep right here.
kevin hart
That's just...
That's 100% right.
I'm damn serious.
I know for sure that that's accurate because I'll catnap in a heartbeat.
joe rogan
Do you feel like you've hit a good balance?
This is what I always wonder about with guys like you or guys like The Rock.
When I look at your Instagram and your social media and you're just constantly going like, God damn!
Do you ever feel like you do too much?
Like, maybe I just need to take a little break here.
Do you ever feel like that?
kevin hart
I think the perception definitely perceives reality.
What looks like so much isn't always so much because you have a schedule.
And within that schedule, there's the things that mean the most that come and act as downtime.
You know, me and my house is downtime.
Even though it's still active and I gotta be dad and I'm with the kids and the wife and it's conversation and I'm running around and I'm back and forth.
That still acts as downtime for me.
Like, I'm shutting the work off.
So the phone is in the office.
I'm not going back to get in until the morning.
And it's all conversation.
It's all TV. It's all Taco Tuesdays.
It's couch and cuddling.
Uh, Baby time, whatever.
That's my downtime.
Because I've taken a step outside of the other shit.
joe rogan
That's wise.
kevin hart
That's what I think I do very well.
I can step outside the other shit.
I can separate it.
So I think when you're able to do that, then you're managing your mental.
You know what I mean?
If it's always one thing all the time, That's how you fucking drive yourself crazy because you're never shutting it off.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
And I think I do a good job of shutting this off and focusing on this.
Like when I'm with my family, I'm with my family.
Nothing interjects or comes in between.
joe rogan
That's fantastic.
That's so important.
kevin hart
That's 100%.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
You figured that out?
That's gigantic.
kevin hart
I think I figured it out.
joe rogan
That's it, man.
kevin hart
I think I figured it out.
joe rogan
You've got so much success.
It's not like you have to be with that fucking phone all the time.
The phone is the big one, right?
kevin hart
The phone is the gift and the curse.
I think that we shot out the gate and saw the gift.
Oh my god.
It's community.
It's connecting us.
We're able to share.
We're able to meet new people.
We're able to stay in communication with old people.
Find new people.
As an entertainer, I can engage with my fans.
And this is so dope!
And then after that, you get hit with the curse.
And the curse is there's a high level of negativity that's out there that's on that shit.
There's a lot of people that are not happy or going through things and they interject a certain amount of negativity and hatred through Through these devices.
These devices are the easiest way to touch everybody.
So when you're just consumed on that shit all day, you start to see yourself being a part of the negative shit.
So what I've learned to do is go, I don't need to see that.
I don't need to see that shit.
I don't pay that any mind.
I don't read that shit for what?
It's not helping me.
It's not making me better.
It's not pushing me to new limits.
If anything, it's taking up just creative space by me literally spending time going and navigating through what I think is a bunch of bullshit.
So I don't let the device beat me.
And at one point, I definitely did.
At one point, it was everything.
It was everything.
It was, you know.
Now I separate it.
joe rogan
How'd you break clear of it?
kevin hart
When you realize what it is.
When you see the bad.
You know?
When you see the bad side of it.
I thought the other day...
This is some real shit.
And it really made me think.
My phone died.
My phone died and I'm driving.
And I was using the fucking maps.
And I was like, oh shit.
unidentified
What the fuck?
kevin hart
How am I get to where...
I don't know where I'm going.
And I sat and I was like, yo, how did we...
How did we get from point A to point B before the map shit?
What were we doing?
I used to print out directions from Google Maps.
I remember that.
But then before that, how did you get to the places where you were going that you didn't know how to get to?
I don't even remember.
joe rogan
Do you remember Thomas Guides?
Did you ever have a Thomas Guide?
kevin hart
I did have a Thomas Guide.
joe rogan
I did have a Thomas Guide.
Giant ass book.
kevin hart
A hundred percent.
joe rogan
Bill Burr had one until like three years ago.
kevin hart
Bill probably still uses it.
Shout out to Bill Burr.
unidentified
But it really fucked me up because I was like, how do...
kevin hart
We don't even know how to do the common, the norm anymore because the device has made everything available and I literally had to drive to a store where I could buy a charger, charge up my phone to get back and use the map to get to where the fuck I was going because I had no idea how to get there.
I didn't know no numbers by heart.
I didn't know who I was going to call.
This was the moment where I was like, what level of success have I reached?
I just pulled over and I sat there and I was like, how the fuck am I going to get to where I'm going?
joe rogan
You should have a spare phone, man.
kevin hart
I don't know what it was.
joe rogan
You need a backup phone.
kevin hart
It felt like the end of the world.
It felt like it was over.
I was like, shit.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy how dependent you are?
unidentified
But that's when the light bulb It started to click.
kevin hart
It started to click.
How do we function without?
I want to go backwards a little bit.
It's still there.
I still need it.
I still think it's dope with all of the things that we can do on it, but I still want to be able to put it down and step away from it.
I want my kids to be able to step away from it.
That's why when I come in the house, my phone is up.
Because I can't bitch and complain at y'all about being on your phone if you see me doing the same thing.
So that time, those conversations, me wanting to know about your day, you talking to me about your day, your friends, who you like, who don't you like...
My daughter.
What, boy?
Who?
What?
unidentified
Huh?
kevin hart
No.
unidentified
All right.
kevin hart
God.
My son.
Yeah.
I like somebody.
unidentified
Who?
kevin hart
Oh, Jesus.
Here it comes.
It's a great thing.
And I want to be able to have those moments.
And, you know, I think it's big to make sure that you prioritize that.
joe rogan
Are you worried about what comes next?
kevin hart
100%.
joe rogan
I'm worried that something's going to be way more intrusive than that.
kevin hart
What do you mean?
It's already happening.
The biggest scare happened already.
With the FaceTime shit that happened.
joe rogan
What happened?
kevin hart
Well, Apple, on the iPhones, it was like people could listen in to your...
joe rogan
Oh yeah, if you didn't even pick up, they could FaceTime you.
kevin hart
They could just listen in to it.
And that was the scariest shit ever.
Because if it's that easy to have a bug like that, what's the thing that's not a bug that's there that you just don't know about?
joe rogan
Oh, there's definitely government listening to us right now.
kevin hart
100%.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
Recording everything everybody says, and then in case one day you do something wrong, they'll put you aside.
Mr. Hart, we'd like you to sit down for a minute.
We're going to play you something.
kevin hart
100%.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
So the fear is...
The next level of intrusive.
I think everything has become intrusive now.
The toughest thing for me is that there is no privacy outside my home.
The amount of money that you have to now spend just on security, on people to be with me, security to be on my home.
It's like there literally is no privacy.
And it's not that I bitch and complain about it because without the fans, without the people that support me, I wouldn't be where I am.
But there's no middle ground.
There is no handshakes anymore.
It's how you doing.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
kevin hart
A handshake is so much better to get a moment.
We can talk if that's what you want.
No, no, no.
Yo, say it now.
It's kind of weird because you're doing this to me.
It's kind of weird to have a conversation.
So you're just starting to see yourself become a little older and wiser and just really see the times for what they are and see the direction that we're going in as people and just hope and pray that we find a middle ground because I think right now there isn't one.
That's what I'm feeling now.
joe rogan
No, I feel it too.
Especially, I mean, what you're talking about is you being super famous and losing all your privacy, but everyone's losing their privacy.
Slowly but surely.
It's happening to you because you're very famous and because you do something that's in the public eye and people want to see you and they want to stick that camera in front of you, but...
There's gonna come a point in time where what we're dealing with now, which is like you have to turn your phone on, you have to reach out to somebody, you have to put something up, that step's gonna be out of the way.
And it's just gonna be people being able to access your life.
kevin hart
Yeah.
You know the bad?
Here's what I'll say that's bad.
That really fucks with me.
I don't like that negativity is the want.
The thing that's popular is the failure.
The fuck up.
The fight that I can catch.
The hateful moment that I can catch and post.
The bad is being highlighted and celebrated.
That's what fucks with me.
With the social media shit now.
What really bothers me is, you know, when you see these things online, like, you know, a fight and there's a man hitting a woman and it's captured.
joe rogan
Right.
kevin hart
That's bad.
The bad thing is that you watched, that the video was more important than the actual help.
joe rogan
Right.
kevin hart
Or the moment to step in.
And, you know, when you see these things where you're catching people do these things to kids and it's caught.
Right.
The moment of what you got and what you want to post and get likes or whatever on is the focus instead of the help.
And that's the part that is just...
I just have a hard time processing.
I have a hard time processing what the likes mean to certain people.
joe rogan
Well, you get an extraordinary amount of attention, so it doesn't mean anything to you the way it means something to a regular person.
But to a regular person, if they can catch some WorldStar video and put it up there like, dude, that's my video!
That's my video!
Look, my video got five million hits!
My video has gone viral!
My video's everywhere!
For them, it's a point of excitement.
That's why when they see you, they're like, oh shit, how often are they going to run into Kevin Hart at Costco or wherever the fuck you were?
kevin hart
I definitely run into me on a...
I'm in a bathroom restaurant and I go to the bathroom.
By the way that I went to the bathroom, you could definitely tell I had to shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin hart
I was moving fast.
You know, I was one of those abrupt, you know, while you're eating.
Yeah, I'm eating bad, so I didn't eat bad in a while.
My stomach immediately said, this is not going to happen today.
So I get up and I go.
And literally, like three seconds, I hear it as I'm walking.
Oh, they go Kev Hart.
And as I'm walking by, a guy gets up, follows me in the bathroom.
And he's like, yo, I got to get a picture, man.
And I said, let me go to the bathroom.
When I'm done, I'll take a picture with you.
I go to the bathroom.
This is a true story.
Hand on the Bible.
Hand on the Bible.
I assume the guy is outside the bathroom.
As I'm going, I see him and I say what I say.
I get done.
I go to the sink, wash my hands.
He was just sitting behind the wall.
And he's like, got his phone out.
And I'm like, did he just take me while I was shitting?
Did he put the phone over the thing?
Oh, Jesus.
Like, I'm about to be on.
Oh, my God, it's over.
This is it.
This is my nightmare.
Here we go.
They're about to put something up of me shitting.
It's the bottom of my feet.
It's whatever.
But he just waited in that moment.
It was so important that he was in the bathroom.
And as soon as I got up, come on, let's take a nap.
I said, let's go outside the bathroom.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin hart
Let's take a picture.
That's a bathroom.
I said, I'm not going away.
I'm a nice guy, man.
I'm going to take the picture.
He's like, I just ain't want to lose you.
And I'm like, there's not even a thought.
There's not even a thought about it's a bathroom.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
How weird is that?
kevin hart
It's a bathroom, man.
This is a pretty fucking weird moment, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin hart
This is weird.
joe rogan
Following you, waiting for you to shit.
kevin hart
You just waited for me to finish shit and I don't know what you got on your phone.
joe rogan
Right.
kevin hart
You're too big for me to ask to go through your phone so I can't.
Whatever you got, you got.
But I had to go out and take the picture and I remember going back to the table just like, what's happening?
joe rogan
That's so strange.
kevin hart
At this point, what is happening?
joe rogan
Yeah, that didn't exist before.
I think if you were famous before, people just wanted to get an autograph or shake your hand.
kevin hart
We're past the autograph stage.
joe rogan
When was the last time you got an autograph?
kevin hart
It's been a while.
I don't think I would know how to write it.
I don't think I would know what to put down.
It's been a minute, man.
And I want to make this very clear.
joe rogan
You're not complaining.
kevin hart
I don't knock it.
I understand.
Once again, I want people to, more importantly, understand the fact that I welcome it.
I welcome the moment that I can talk and converse with the fan.
But it should be that.
joe rogan
Normal.
unidentified
With two people.
kevin hart
The moments are better when they're real.
And after a real moment, you get a picture because you're like, yo, he was actually a nice guy.
Or I had no idea that you would be this calm and cool.
You don't even get to see how genuine of a person I am because the first thing you do...
You stick the camera in the face.
And that's when people think that you're an asshole.
Because they have the intrusive moment that then gets met with the...
Can you please?
I'm sorry.
You don't have to stick it in my face.
Damn, you ain't got to be like that!
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
They look for that, too.
They look to turn on you.
kevin hart
Because now you get your moment.
You look for the negative moment.
joe rogan
When does shit start getting weird for you?
Like, how many years in?
unidentified
Um...
kevin hart
I don't know.
It's been pretty crazy.
It's been pretty crazy for like the last four to five.
The last four to five years.
And the last three, you know, it's gotten insane.
Because now, you know, you're on an international level.
So it's global.
And the following is bigger.
And it's all ages.
Which is really, really good.
But I think, you know, for comedians...
It's a different thing because you feel like you know comedians.
You're laughing.
We're in your homes.
Everything is met with warmth.
So when you see a comedian, especially if you're a fan of a comedian, you're associating everything with funny and you're just looking for the funny moment.
You're looking past the normal moment.
It's like you almost are frowned upon if you're normal.
If you just chill.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
kevin hart
Because everybody wants the funny moment.
joe rogan
Right, they thought you were going to be funny all the time.
kevin hart
It's like I'm supposed to pop lock right on site.
If it's two in the morning and you run into me and I say, hey, how you doing, man?
That's not enough.
joe rogan
When you work out your shit now, I've seen you at the Comedy Store, but only once.
Where do you work out your shit?
kevin hart
I like to go to random comedy clubs.
I think I'll go to New York first.
New York has always been a home when it comes to building, putting some structure within a set that you're trying to figure out.
Once I got a skeleton of what I want to do, I'll just go to West Palm.
I love that comedy club, the improv down there.
joe rogan
Oh, that place is great.
kevin hart
I'll stay for two weeks.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
kevin hart
And just go and run through some jokes.
I'll go to Utah.
I'll go to Denver.
joe rogan
You do the Wise Guys?
kevin hart
Yeah.
I'll go to comedy clubs, just random comedy clubs that you wouldn't expect to see me at.
But I'll do a hell of a run.
And the goal is to get out of there with just a foundation.
It's not to have a complete set.
I just want to get a foundation.
So when I'm done getting the foundation, then I'll do a little comedy club run.
I'll do a full comedy club run where I just put two or three months in.
And it's comedy club, comedy club, comedy club.
And I'm doing seven shows a weekend.
And people are shocked that I'm there and that I'm doing it.
But, you know, that's my...
That's my gym.
That's how I work.
And I end up leaving that period of time with a complete set after the first three or four months that I spent.
Now after that comedy club, three or four months doing that run, then I take it to like a small theater.
I see what my laughter feels like in a small theater and I do a little run in small theaters.
And then when I finally feel like it's at a point where I'm getting the laugh consistently and the punchlines are working and I flipped it back frontwards forward every direction and my story is a real rollercoaster and it has an ending where I feel like we get off the rollercoaster and we're happy and you don't feel like you were there for an hour is then when I go test it out in the arena.
And if the arena, if it lasts or sounds the way it's supposed to, then I say, okay, I'm ready.
If it doesn't, then I'll go back to small theaters and then I'll go to an arena again.
So not till that arena sounds the way it's supposed to, do I say I'm going on tour.
So sometimes it takes me about a year, a year and three months, a year and four months.
You know, people don't understand how hard it is to develop an hour of stand-up material.
People act like you just turn on a new hour.
It's an hour.
To get to an hour you're going through four to five hours of bullshit that you thought was funny.
To come up to that hour that you finally say...
This is going to be the representation of me this year.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
It's a lot for me to do that, especially at this level, you know?
joe rogan
Well, especially while you're always doing movies and you're always busy with a bunch of other stuff, too.
unidentified
Stuff.
kevin hart
Stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, you don't take any breaks.
kevin hart
Well, I tour.
I actually, you know, when I'm touring, if there's a movie, I make the movie schedule around the tour.
So my shooting days will go Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Wrap Thursday, and Maybe I have a show Thursday night and then I'm going Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
Sometimes no show Sunday, sometimes show Sunday, depending on what the work schedule and the workload for the following week would look like.
So I'm implementing that in.
So when I say I'm out, I'm out.
I'm gone.
So I knocked that movie out in two months.
And then when I'm not, that tour schedule shifts.
So the Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, dedicated to the family, dedicated to the office, everything.
Then those weekends are touring.
But that tour lasts for a year and a half.
I mean, this year we did 157 shows on my irresponsible tour.
Wow.
157 shows.
joe rogan
Before you decided to put it on the Netflix special.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin hart
We did the Netflix, the taping.
I think I did it three weeks before we were done, so we were probably at 143 shows.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
kevin hart
Then I taped it and finished the tour.
joe rogan
Did you always have this kind of structure?
Like, when did you...
How did you design this?
kevin hart
I'm a thought-out individual.
joe rogan
Yeah, you seem like that.
kevin hart
I'm a well-thought-out individual.
unidentified
Everything is planned.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is not random.
kevin hart
No, everything is planned.
If you...
Look at all my stand-up specials.
There's a two-year gap in between them.
So the two-year gap is because at the end of that second year, my new special should be coming out.
When that new special should be coming out, I'm now focusing on what the next special is going to be.
So that first year...
It's all development.
Like right now, I'm off.
I'm not touring.
But now I'm mentally in the gym and throwing all the old stuff that I talked about away.
That's now thrown out.
Can't repeat it.
Can't say it.
Now it's talking about what the new version of myself is going to be.
What do I want the conversation to be?
What's my thinking?
And just taking notes.
So...
Eventually now, I'm going to start just popping up in random comedy clubs and trying to figure out what the next thing is.
So by mid-20, I'll probably be doing comedy clubs.
By the end of 20, I should have a full-fledged concept of that new hour.
And by the beginning of 21, I should be ready to go out with my new hour.
End of 21, film my new hour.
Mid-22, that hour would come out.
joe rogan
That seems like a schedule a lot of people are doing now, the two-year schedule.
kevin hart
It's a perfect gap.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's how I do it.
I know Louis C.K. did a year, every year, and George Carlin did every year, but I think even he said it really wasn't the right way to do it.
kevin hart
That's tough.
A year is tough.
I mean, that's a...
Shouts out to those that can't do it.
I think that's amazing.
I think just for everything that I have going on, And all of the different things that my hands are in within the brand, the business, I need to make sure that I'm giving 100% to those things so they have the highest opportunity to be successful.
If I'm trying to cheat it, then it's going to show.
It's not going to come out to the best of my ability.
And with that stand-up, you got a fucking magnifying glass on you.
You're always being judged off of what you did at one point.
Just like a musician.
You're always judged off of the album that everybody thought was whatever.
So, the biggest thing for an entertainer, artist, whatever your craft is, is...
How are you recreating yourself?
How are you constantly showing that you're growing?
For me, the only way to do that is to talk about my life and the things that grow along with me.
The only thing that grows along with me, my experiences, my family, my marriage, my mistakes, my ups, my downs.
Those are the things that I can talk about forever because as you get older, things change, shit gets different.
But it's all coming from my personal opinion of me, my view on me and how I see life.
You can't Lose material in that state.
That's why I stay away from certain things because those things can become boring after a while.
For me, because I don't have the knowledge of everything that I should.
joe rogan
Like what?
What kind of things?
kevin hart
Well, politics.
I don't joke in the politics.
I don't joke in anything that has to do with the slander of others or other communities.
I don't do anything divisive.
joe rogan
Good for you.
kevin hart
That's my biggest thing.
This past year was one that got a little weird because I was like, yo, I've really dedicated myself to bringing people together.
That was my...
My goal, that's my priority.
I damn sure thought that's what I was doing on a global scale.
Everybody, all races, shapes, sizes, whoever you are, whatever you are, you can come to a Kevin Hart show and have a good time.
So when it came off as if I was a person that was divisive, That was tough.
joe rogan
You're talking about the Oscar show?
kevin hart
The Oscar show, yeah.
joe rogan
This is a time where people are just looking to be upset about things.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
And they're not looking at you, Kevin Hart, as just a human being.
Who is he overall?
Super positive.
They're not even concentrating on that.
I mean, think about how positive you are, and yet they tried to concentrate on some jokes that you did, what, nine years ago?
kevin hart
Well, it's a wake-up call.
Of understanding the times, but then more importantly, you know, for me it was, okay, I went through it.
I made sure that the people of the LGBTQ community really understand that, hey guys, I apologized before, but I'm apologizing again.
I'm sorry.
I'm not that guy.
I don't want you to think I'm that guy.
Then, it just became the constant conversation.
joe rogan
That never happened.
kevin hart
It just became the constant conversation.
And now it is, guys, I'm not only sorry, I don't condone anything that has to do with hate.
To anybody!
This is no longer a conversation.
So guys, I'm gonna stop talking about it.
Because now I feel like I'm feeding into what I'm not.
I know I'm not.
The world and public should understand and know that I'm not.
Because over this time period, I've shown that I'm not.
So...
The apology, once again, I'm sorry.
Genuinely, I'm sorry.
But then it just never stopped.
And at that point, I just made a decision.
And I'm like, guys, at this point, I'm making a decision to not talk about it anymore.
That doesn't mean that I'm being disrespectful to anybody.
That doesn't mean that I'm shutting down anything.
It means that for me, I'm going to stop talking about it.
Because at this point, I don't know what to do.
At this point, I thought the apology is what you want me to do.
I did it.
I made sure that you understand that I'm not a hateful person.
I don't hate.
I did that.
I stepped down so I don't take attention off of that night and those people that are there to be celebrated.
I don't want to draw attention to myself and what's around me.
I stepped down.
Everything I did...
It was for the better of good.
I'm stepping away, guys, because I don't want this to be a negative night or a negative thing.
And then it still became a conversation.
So I waited for it to die down.
I went on my radio show, gave another public apology.
Made sure that he understood that I'm sorry.
I hope these words didn't hurt anybody.
I once again apologize.
I don't condone hate to anyone.
I hope that you guys can forgive me for those jokes of old.
So now, I say, if you don't understand and you don't believe it, I don't know what else to give.
I don't know what else to do.
joe rogan
There's nothing else you can do.
That's very wise of you.
kevin hart
Nothing.
joe rogan
It's very wise of you to step away like that because if you didn't, they would probably pursue it forever.
It becomes a point of attention.
That's all it is.
They just decide that this is something they're going to focus on.
kevin hart
I had a good talk, and I'm going to talk about this for a minute.
A friend of mine, Lee Daniels.
Me and Lee Daniels.
Lee called me, told me he wanted to talk to me.
You know who Lee Daniels is?
Director, producer, the show Empires, one of his biggest shows.
So he calls me, he's like, Kev, I want to talk to you.
And us talking, he's like, look...
This is a time where you could speak up and talk about the community that's been affected by hatred and hateful crimes.
You can step up and be a voice and say that you don't condone or don't stand with any type of hate or whatever.
You can take that stage and do that.
And I said, Lee, I understand what you're saying.
I said, well, why did you expect me to know what's been happening within this community in regards to hate and crimes?
I said, I'm not aware.
I said, some people can just not be aware.
I'm not in the know.
I have no idea what's going on.
I have no idea.
joe rogan
In the gay community.
kevin hart
Yes, within that community.
I have no idea.
joe rogan
Right.
kevin hart
When you tell me this, I'm now educated and I understand.
unidentified
So it's easy to simply inform.
Right.
kevin hart
Information is key.
When people get information, they process the information.
When you can process the information, you go, oh, wait a minute.
That makes sense.
Hey, if you guys think that I condone hate, wait a minute.
I don't.
And anybody that does, fuck you, man.
That's bad.
You shouldn't.
I can say that.
But instead, when this happened, it was become an ally.
Become a voice.
And that's where there was just a miscommunication.
That's where a back and forth kind of was established that I think people just started to take things and run with it.
And I'm just not one to feed into what I feel is.
Isn't going to eventually evolve into a positive thing.
joe rogan
In a real conversation.
kevin hart
Yes.
When I'm trying my best to.
joe rogan
It was becoming tabloid bullshit.
unidentified
Pretty much.
joe rogan
As opposed to a real discussion.
kevin hart
Clickbait.
joe rogan
Yeah, clickbait.
kevin hart
Clickbait.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
There's so much clickbait out there because it's such an effective way to get people to pay attention to things.
Because as you said, people focus on failure and negative and anger.
kevin hart
That's what we want to see.
joe rogan
Controversy.
kevin hart
That's what we want to see.
People want to see...
The anger.
joe rogan
Why do you think that is?
kevin hart
Because it's just the times.
That's what's cool now.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
kevin hart
What's cool is being negative.
You know how you always have some people, this is a great example, how you have people, me and you can talk about a movie, right?
We can talk about Titanic.
Wow, Titanic, one of the biggest movies of all time.
Fucking great movie.
Yes, it was a great movie.
And one guy, for no reason to go, I fucking hated it.
Why?
You ain't like Titanic?
Fucking bullshit.
Why?
Man, I ain't got...
I know why.
No, tell me.
Why'd you hate it?
I ain't got time to talk to y'all about that.
The cool thing is just being different.
I want to be completely opposite than all these positive people.
You know what?
Nah, nah, nah.
That shit was ass.
Why?
Why was it ass?
You have people that just like to do that.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure.
kevin hart
And what happens when one person does it, another person for no reason all go, yeah, me too.
Yeah, that shit was ass, man.
I ain't like it either.
Did you see it?
What y'all talking about?
unidentified
Ha!
kevin hart
You don't even know what they're talking about.
unidentified
But you just want to hop on the negative train.
joe rogan
Right.
kevin hart
Because that's what's cool.
It's not cool to be positive.
It's not cool to be happy.
joe rogan
I don't know if it's a cool thing.
I think it's usually people that are really frustrated with their lives.
kevin hart
100%.
That's the factual side to it.
joe rogan
I did a joke before.
I was like, do you think Michael Jordan leaves YouTube comments?
I bet he doesn't.
unidentified
No.
kevin hart
No.
joe rogan
That's not for winners.
kevin hart
No.
joe rogan
Not at all.
The type of people that want to get mad and complain constantly about shit like that.
kevin hart
Do you know what it takes to do this right here?
joe rogan
Not much.
kevin hart
Do you know?
Right here?
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin hart
I'm going to tell you how I feel right in your comment section, Joe Rogan.
You can kiss my...
You know what that takes?
What do you have going on that you have the times?
To just simply be that negative and do it in this world and universe.
joe rogan
Just a mismanagement of your time.
unidentified
Time.
joe rogan
Yeah, your time is so valuable.
kevin hart
And I don't think people understand how valuable they can be if they use their time correctly.
joe rogan
Yes.
Now, have you always been like this?
Have you always been this ambitious?
kevin hart
I'm a positive fucking guy, man.
joe rogan
But always?
kevin hart
Always.
joe rogan
Really?
kevin hart
I find a light in every dark tunnel.
I will find a goddamn light, man.
I hear it all.
Listen, when I tell you the weight on my back is so heavy of all the stuff that I deal with, and I'm fine.
The reason why I'm fine is because I'm genuinely happy.
I'm happy.
And I'm not happy just because of the success.
The success acts as a bonus.
I'm happy because I truly know the definition and the feeling that comes with happiness.
I truly know it.
I felt it.
I felt it when I said, yo, what really makes me happy?
And I look at Heaven and Hendrix and I look at Zoe.
I look at my wife.
I go, yo.
I didn't have the family shit when I was coming up.
Yo, I got one.
I got one.
Look what I done did.
Look what I built.
These people depend on me.
I provide for these people.
That makes me happy.
That makes me happy when my daughter comes up.
Dad.
You're not only my dad, you're my best friend.
Yo, I'm happy.
That's my world.
So everything else from the outside that comes in, you're throwing shit at a bubble that can't be popped.
It's a force field around me.
It's a force field around me because what matters, what really matters, loves me wholeheartedly.
And when you have that and you understand that, you're unbreakable.
So if you don't add to that force field, if you don't make my force field stronger, you don't get time from me.
My team, Heartbeat Productions, the people underneath my umbrella, you're a part of my force field.
You believe what I believe.
We all see the same things.
We want the same things.
So we march with the same beat.
unidentified
You can't shake that.
kevin hart
When you're an individual that's seen that and understands that.
If you've never felt that, if you have no idea what that feels like, then it's easy to shake you.
That's why some people are easily broken.
Being broken is not a hard thing.
It's not a hard thing.
So those that do get broken, those that do get down, those that do get depressed, I understand.
I understand.
I don't knock people for it.
I don't knock anybody for it.
What I also understand is that the encouragement that can come from so many can add value for those that may need a little push.
That may need a little, hey man, pick your chin up.
It's so easy to be that positive reinforcement for somebody and add value.
It's so easy.
But some people choose to throw that aside and kick while you're down.
I try to put out the light of positivity because whoever's out there, I don't know what it could do for somebody else.
But somebody else may just simply look at me and say, yo, the way that he embraces his kids makes me want to be a better father.
Yo, the way that this man doesn't stop and the way that every day he wakes up and he's just positive regardless of what's going on makes me realize that this shit ain't so bad.
The way that he gets up and says, hey, today's another day.
It's a morning.
Let's all be better than we were yesterday.
Somebody probably needed to hear that.
The more that I can give that out and I can take my platform to throw good energy out, I'm doing my job.
Because there's so many that throw out the complete opposite.
I don't want to be a part of that.
joe rogan
That's beautiful, man.
kevin hart
And that's true!
joe rogan
I believe you.
kevin hart
It's not forced.
It's not phony.
It's not fake.
I get shit every day.
I hear shit every day.
joe rogan
It's very contagious, too.
kevin hart
I had a lady, I had a lady, right?
unidentified
Lady rolled down a window.
Lady rolled down a window.
kevin hart
She goes, when you gonna make a good movie again?
unidentified
I said, did you see the upside?
kevin hart
I thought the upside was good.
What's that?
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
kevin hart
It's a movie.
It's one of my movies that's out.
I think it's a good movie.
I didn't see that.
All right, ma'am.
You have a beautiful day.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
kevin hart
All right.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
That's it?
kevin hart
That's it.
unidentified
Yeah, all right.
joe rogan
Damn.
unidentified
She asked the question with such conviction.
kevin hart
Like, literally.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin hart
By the way, I could have said a lot of shit.
Like, she rolled her window down.
You could tell she still had the crank.
So, I'm like, I could have said a lot of shit.
unidentified
I didn't.
kevin hart
There's a lot of things that I can say to you, ma'am.
When are you going to make a good movie?
Head snapping.
I got one out.
The upside.
You see the upside?
What's that?
It's a movie.
It's out now.
joe rogan
Amazing that that's how she chooses to come at you.
kevin hart
I see it.
I get it.
joe rogan
She chooses to come at you with a negative.
kevin hart
I get it every day.
When are you going to be funny again?
I'm trying my best.
Trying my best.
If it's not working for you, hopefully I do better soon.
What am I going to feed into that?
unidentified
Why?
kevin hart
For what?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
For what?
It seems to have been working thus far.
joe rogan
Are you getting this positive attitude from life experience?
Are you getting it from books?
Did someone teach you how to think like this?
kevin hart
I'm getting it from the experiences and from the real understanding of perfection doesn't exist.
It don't exist, Joe.
We're in a time right now where people expect perfection.
You expect perfection.
I don't know where this came from.
I don't know what happened that this is the criteria for living.
My true understanding is, alright, you got one life.
And that one life, the goal for us is to live it to the best of our ability from the beginning to what's said at the end.
In the middle, in the beginning, middle, You're going to do things, you're going to make mistakes, you're going to fuck up.
You're supposed to learn and then move forward with the understanding of what not to do.
And when you move forward, life may get better, it may not, but somewhere along the lines it's going to click.
And everything that I went through back here was supposed to happen so that now that I'm here, I'm able to go ahead and With such a high level of knowledge.
And I can make other people better.
I can make myself better.
I can do more for my family.
Something happens.
My dad is the prime example.
Crazy drug addict.
In and out of jail.
Life was very bad.
Very fucking bad for my dad.
Son got successful.
Son then took money.
Gave it to his dad.
Here's your house.
Here's your truck.
Here's your monthly.
At this age, I want you to live your life.
You done made mistakes.
You can't rebuild and correct the things that you've done.
I'm your son.
I love you.
You can't go back and redo.
You can't try to keep going backwards.
Ain't about me.
You got grandkids.
Go be the best grandpop you can be for these grandkids.
That's your focus now.
Where's this energy devoted to?
Being a grandpop for the grandkids.
Don't worry about me.
But something happened in your life.
Something happened that took you in the direction to reap the benefits of your son's happiness and success.
My energy is now contagious enough and I hand it to you.
So now you're able to give that off to all these other people that you're around.
Something happens and that's in every single life.
In every life.
I understand that.
There's a payoff for bad eventually.
There's a payoff.
It can't be bad but for so long.
If you got the strength and the understanding to realize that, shit will change.
It will change.
It's impossible.
It's just like poker.
I don't know if you play poker or not.
I don't.
If you play poker, you can run bad forever, but it will eventually turn around once you grasp the understanding of the game.
Eventually, it's going to turn around.
Blackjack, you're never going to beat the casino, but eventually you're going to have a good run.
If you catch a run, you'll do good.
Get the fuck out of there.
You waited long enough for it to happen, here it come.
Catch it, leave.
Anything in life will eventually turn good.
joe rogan
No, but this is coming just from your own personal experiences.
You didn't have any role models that spoke to you this way?
kevin hart
Nancy Hart.
joe rogan
Did she speak to you like this?
About positivity and about...
kevin hart
My mom reinforced knowledge.
My mom reinforced, you don't start things and not finish them.
You don't quit.
There's nothing that comes out of quitting.
unidentified
Okay.
kevin hart
Besides knowing that you didn't finish.
We finish everything.
You start it, finish it.
If you're going to do it, do it to try and be the best.
Not be better than other people, be the best for you.
If you're in school and you're going to class, I'm not asking you to get straight A's.
I'm asking you to get the best grade that you can possibly get.
Give me 100% all the time and I'm a happy mother.
When you half-ass me, I'm on your ass.
Mom, I want to do this.
I want to play baseball.
Well, then you're going to play.
Mom, I don't like that no more.
Then why'd you start the season?
Because I thought I wanted to do it.
Then you're going to finish the season.
You don't quit.
There's other people that invest the time and energy into you.
You don't just quit on people.
But I don't want to do it.
Finish the season.
Mom, I want to swim.
Then you're going to finish swimming.
It didn't matter what I did.
I was never allowed to quit.
So now in anything I do, when I pick it up and say I'm going to start it, I got to finish it.
It all don't work.
It all ain't the best.
It all ain't knocked out the park.
But I walk away saying I finished it.
I did it.
I did it.
Right now I've been boxing.
joe rogan
I saw.
I saw you working out with Rico Verhoeven.
kevin hart
I'm fucking...
First of all, very strong kicker.
He's a giant.
joe rogan
He's a giant man.
kevin hart
Huge man.
unidentified
Huge man.
Okay?
joe rogan
He's a fucking beast, that guy.
kevin hart
He's a good guy, too, man.
Good guy.
But I started it...
joe rogan
Viking jeans.
kevin hart
I started it, and I said, why am I doing this?
I'm not going to be a professional fighter.
I'm not trying to be an amateur fighter.
I'm doing it to get in shape.
All right, then I started getting in shape, and I said...
So much that I don't know about the sport.
I at least want to make sure that I'm paying homage to the people that do this for a living by really understanding and learning it.
You know what?
I'm going to get a real trainer.
I'm going to get some real people to show me everything.
So when it's all said and done and I look back after my training, I can go, I gave it 100% and look at how good I got.
Look at what I'm a product of.
I spar.
I go get in the room.
joe rogan
Do you really?
kevin hart
Yeah, just to feel it.
So I can say I did it.
joe rogan
You know who else spars?
Brian Callen.
unidentified
Is this you?
kevin hart
Are you serious?
No.
unidentified
That's me.
kevin hart
Yeah, that's me.
joe rogan
Come on.
kevin hart
That's me.
joe rogan
Dude.
kevin hart
That's me.
It's getting there too.
Look at this.
joe rogan
Who is teaching you?
kevin hart
His name is Biggs.
He's in Atlanta.
That's me learning how to turtle shell within punches.
But, you know, he's a former Golden Glove guy.
Really good.
joe rogan
Dude, you were in a cup and everything.
kevin hart
Well, I was at the sparring session when I'm, like, real tired.
joe rogan
Damn.
kevin hart
Yeah, I got touched.
I got my ass whipped in every couple times.
Are you worried about that at all?
No, because I don't go crazy.
We headgear and I'm not in there.
joe rogan
Headgear is worse for you.
kevin hart
But I'm not in there with guys that are trying to hurt you.
unidentified
Yes.
kevin hart
I'm not in there with guys that have no concept of reality or control.
They're just helping me understand.
joe rogan
Right.
kevin hart
Here's why you have to keep your hand up.
joe rogan
That is a problem with...
You know that's why Mickey Rourke started getting all that facial surgery?
kevin hart
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's sparring at James Toney.
kevin hart
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
James Toney would beat the fucking shit out of him, man.
unidentified
Well, that's just not a smart move right there.
joe rogan
It's James Toney's a mean man.
kevin hart
Yeah, that's just, you can't, like, I don't go in that space.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen James Toney talk shit while he spars?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
That's some of the most entertaining thing you'll ever find on YouTube.
kevin hart
He's just...
joe rogan
He just won't shut the fuck up.
unidentified
The whole time.
joe rogan
While he's beating your ass, he's talking shit.
kevin hart
Come on, bitch.
Come on, bitch.
joe rogan
What you got, bitch?
Oh, this ain't shit.
kevin hart
That's hurtful.
That's hurtful.
joe rogan
And he's one of the best defensive fighters ever, so he's really difficult to hit.
He's got that shell going.
He's standing right in front of you, and you can't hit him.
kevin hart
It's the most frustrating thing in the world.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
I had a guy that's a guy named Mikey I've been sparring with.
Mikey hit me with three punches.
I thought...
I thought Mikey literally had like six arms.
This is a true story.
I said, I don't know what just happened, but I thought I had my hands up.
And no matter where I put him, he just tapped me.
He lets me feel it, but not to where I might get knocked out.
But I understand now movement.
I understand pivots.
I understand shoulder protection.
And that's my goal.
My goal is just to understand.
Because I can't do anything halfway.
unidentified
Right?
kevin hart
Kev, you trying to fight somebody?
Nope.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
Nope.
kevin hart
I just want to say that I did it and I learned and I can move and I look the part because I put time into it.
joe rogan
Well, as you learn it too and as you watch it and you start to get trained, then you start to look at a guy like a Terrence Crawford or a Lomachenko and you go, oh, now I appreciate what you're doing.
Because before you'd see like, oh yeah, he beat that guy up.
Oh yeah, he knocked that guy out.
But then you see like how he ducks under the left and fires back with the right.
You're like, oh Jesus, this is precision.
kevin hart
It's insane.
The respect that I have for people that do that on a day-to-day is through the roof.
People that fight are in the most amazing shape in the universe.
You're in the most amazing shape ever.
To move, get hit, For three to five minutes.
Around.
Come back.
Do it.
Come back.
Do it.
And these fights go on and on and on.
I take my hat off to you.
You get three rounds out of me, I'm breathing out my butt.
I don't know where the air is coming from.
I'm searching for it.
joe rogan
It's a crazy way to make a living too, man.
To rely on your body and your brain like that.
kevin hart
Thank God I didn't have to go down that route.
And to those that do, just make sure you just put your body first.
Like you said, it's hurtful when you see the damage that it can cause.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were talking about that earlier, like seeing guys as they start to deteriorate.
And it's hard because nobody wants to tell them that either.
Everybody wants to tell them they got one more good fight in them.
Maybe at the end of the year, then we'll decide.
But right now, we're going to train hard.
kevin hart
That's tough.
joe rogan
It's hard too because there's no options.
Once you've established yourself as a professional fighter and you don't have an exit strategy, you don't know what to do, you know?
Now, at least thankfully because of the internet, guys are getting podcasts and they're starting doing commentary shows and they're talking about fighting.
kevin hart
It's the positive.
See what you just did there?
You just found the positive.
That's the positive within the internet.
There is positive, but you just don't hear it celebrated as much.
joe rogan
Well, the internet's very positive for me.
I mean, this is the show we do on the internet.
I mean, not just podcasts, but YouTube videos.
And also information.
I know more because of the internet than I ever would have without it.
There's not a doubt in my mind that I'm...
A more educated, more aware person.
kevin hart
Because of the internet.
Yeah.
The things that you're able to find and search.
And I mean, like you said, you're able to self-educate.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
At a very high level.
These are the goods.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
We're talking about the goods.
So when you talk about positive, Kevin, how have you been?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
Are you always like that?
It's this.
It's the things that I look at that are so easy.
joe rogan
You're not just positive, though.
You're like crazy ambitious.
That's the thing that gets me about you and The Rock.
kevin hart
For sure.
joe rogan
It's like the ambitions off the charts.
Like, I know you're rich as fuck.
Like, when do you think you got enough?
You don't have enough.
There's no enough.
kevin hart
I don't have enough because it's not over.
joe rogan
It's not over.
kevin hart
It's not over.
So, you know, when you put a cap on it, you're putting a punctuation to it.
And the ambition comes...
From seeing what's out there that can be obtained.
You know, when you see what's out there...
joe rogan
You mean physical things?
unidentified
When you see what's out there, when you see...
kevin hart
Where people are really gaining wealth and knowledge from, okay?
The business relationships that you're able to acquire, the people that you're able to partner with and create certain things, different revenue streams.
What I found is, as a young black guy from North Philadelphia, the biggest problem with The biggest problem within our community is knowledge.
We don't know.
Debt is welcomed because it's celebrated.
That's all we know.
Yeah, nah, I'm going to get that credit card.
I'm going to fuck that credit card up and it is what it is.
They got to figure that out.
I ain't got it after that.
Yeah, well, you know what?
I'm getting student loans.
They gave it to me.
Then after that, shit, it is what it is.
I'm going to figure it out.
I put a cable bill in your name.
You put it in my name.
We can switch it up.
Whatever.
They do it.
Let's just put it in somebody else's name.
It's welcome.
The hustle is welcome.
The knowledge of banks and what you can do or can't do is fucking...
You don't even get it because you go to check cashing places.
The reason why you go to check cashing places is because I don't want to go through that shit with the banks.
I don't trust that.
Go right there to check cashing places.
Let me get mine.
Let me get mine now.
Take $30, whatever.
Let me get it.
The knowledge isn't given.
So it's not until you obtain that knowledge and understanding that you go, oh, shit.
Oh, this is why you put money up.
Oh, this is how you increase versus decrease.
Oh, this is how you earn on your money.
Oh, wow.
I can gain wealth by investing in what?
The stock world is what?
How many people partake in the stock world?
And is there a part that isn't necessarily gambling?
Is there a low-risk part?
The information isn't there.
So that's why I got to a certain level and a certain group of people where I got it.
And now that I got it, I want to give it.
So now I'm going to give it to the people that I know need it most.
And for me, that younger generation of black people That don't understand the cool thing is in financial longevity.
Not in the now.
It's not in the moment for jewelry.
Not in the moment for the car.
It's in the longevity.
It's in building so at the end of the day you can say, look at what I have.
Look at what I worked for.
Look at what I have that's mine.
Monopoly is real.
But you have to have the financial understanding.
And I teamed up.
I got Chase right now.
We're doing something called Financial Fitness.
Where it's just about me educating people on money.
unidentified
Really?
kevin hart
How to manage money.
How to be smart with your money.
But it's coming from a person that fucked up money.
I didn't always understand it.
I owed in taxes before because I didn't understand it in the beginning.
I had bad credit.
Credit cards wouldn't take me because I maxed out.
Whatever.
I've been there.
I've done it.
Thank God I was able to fix it and get on the right path.
And now that I have the knowledge, I want to give it.
We simply don't know.
So when you say the end game, the end game is getting to a point where I've taken all the knowledge that I've been able to get over these years and really applying it and providing family wealth.
When it's all said and done, the last name Hart is going to mean just more, a lot more than just Kevin Hart in comedy.
You've got Heartbeat Productions.
You've got Heartbeat Digital.
You've got Heartbeat Ventures.
You've got Heartbeat Real Estate.
There's so many things that the last name Heart will be attached to.
joe rogan
You sell real estate?
kevin hart
Kevin Hart doesn't sell real estate.
I buy real estate.
joe rogan
I like how you talk about yourself in the third person.
kevin hart
I'm sorry about that.
I don't sell it.
I buy it.
But the reason why is because...
joe rogan
Investment.
kevin hart
Investment.
But as you get older, you learn this.
You learn it.
And it's such a thing when you talk about black versus white.
A lot of people do that.
And rightfully so.
There is racism.
Racism exists.
I'm not unaware of that.
But there is a high volume of it that's non-existent to people that are good people.
And when you can merge yourself with good people and follow the paths that you see that these good, successful people have taken...
You then become a part of a world and group that nobody expected you to be in.
So for me, I now have the position to do that and take all of these relationships and all this knowledge and take it back to the people that need it most.
I like to share.
I don't want it all by myself.
joe rogan
Now, are you doing this, the financial stuff, are you doing this in videos?
Are you releasing videos?
kevin hart
Not in videos, no.
joe rogan
How are they doing it?
kevin hart
We're going to start financial fitness, like I said, with Chase.
J.B. Morgan Chase.
Jamie Dimon, very good guy.
Tashanda as well.
They're help leading in charge and just saying...
How can we get to the people that we feel need the financial information the most?
So I said, put me out there.
Let's go directly to the consumer.
So from colleges, from high schools, senior classes, junior classes, going out and talking to people before they go into the next stages of their life about the things that you should know.
joe rogan
So you're going to speak to them?
kevin hart
Yeah, and just share personal information.
joe rogan
Are you going to put this stuff online as well, though?
kevin hart
Yeah.
Yeah, you'll be able to track and find content from it, but I'm authentic.
So I said the best way to really do it is to put me in a position to be heard.
I want to be heard.
It's a different story.
What I explained to the people of JPMorgan Chase just when we were talking about this, and there's an amazing board of people that are just figuring this out and the best way to go and do it.
And I said, you can't have the white guy that's never been I'm not listening to you from the gate because you don't relate.
I don't relate to you.
But throwing somebody in a situation that's lived it, that's been in it.
That's been fucked up in it, made it out of it, and is now coming back to help.
unidentified
Right.
kevin hart
It's a different ballgame.
And that's what I want to be.
And, you know, we have other voices outside of myself, very powerful voices that are going to do it as well.
But the purpose is to align ourselves to really make a change.
So you can either be the conversation about making change, or you can be actual a part of the action to do it.
I want to be a part of the action.
And in doing it, you'll also be able to understand my drive.
You'll get why I do so much.
You'll get why my hand is in so much.
Because I have access to it.
And the question should be, why not?
The question shouldn't be, yo, why is he doing everything?
It should be, why aren't you?
Why aren't you trying to do everything?
Why not?
joe rogan
Well, that's the thing about a guy like you.
That becomes contagious.
Like what you were saying about surrounding yourself with positive people and people that are constantly ambitious and there's fuel to that.
You feel good about that.
That's what you're doing.
kevin hart
It's beautiful.
unidentified
I can say seeing you here, right?
kevin hart
We walked around.
You showed me your facility.
Loved it.
Beautiful facility.
You talked to me about how your podcast has grown to where you are now and the success behind it.
I don't leave here and go, yo, that's dope as shit.
I go, hey, I need to do more work on my radio station.
Laugh Out Loud Radio, I own it.
It's mine.
I got a show on there, but you know what?
Joe fucking motivated me to do more.
I want to make sure that we understand really what's out here within this radio world because I just saw my guy in his space and I saw how happy he is with the success that he has.
I don't want to be you or beat you.
I want to take this energy and apply it to myself.
That's the purpose of seeing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
That's the purpose of being smart with your eyeballs.
You should be a sponge.
So I'm a sponge.
So I come here and I look at how you maneuver.
I look at your setup.
I not only bow down and congratulate you, I leave and I say, yo, man, I'm inspired, dude.
That's dope as hell.
Joe, I can't wait in two years.
You're going to come and you're going to see my shit.
You remember I said I was inspired, but you're going to see what I let it grow into.
That's the proper way.
To get encouraged and motivated.
joe rogan
Right, as opposed to being a hater.
kevin hart
A hater and competitive and I'm going to beat you.
It's not a competition.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not interested in that either.
I share the exact same feelings.
kevin hart
It's not a competition at all.
joe rogan
If you don't have people like that that are inspiring around you, you might not know how positive it is and how powerful it is.
If you see someone that's on television or on social media and you see them, it's hard to be inspired.
You don't know them.
kevin hart
I can say, look at your circle, right?
And in your circle, if the conversation is all about what we hate, I can't stand that song.
You see that new fucking car came out?
Okay, that shit is ass.
I can't stand that fucking car.
Yo, man, I can't stand this city.
Why the fuck we even in this city?
What we eating?
I hate that place.
It's so easy.
People don't even listen to it.
It's so easy.
It can be the smallest shit in the world.
The smallest shit, but if it's always hate, I can't stand these fucking headphones.
Why we got these headphones?
unidentified
I hate these.
kevin hart
Fucking hardware tape.
Why is this here?
I can't stand this hardware tape.
I hate hardware.
Why couldn't you get a regular tape?
I fucking hate this shit.
Fucking chairs.
You ain't got better chairs?
I hate these chairs.
It's so easy.
joe rogan
Right.
It's so easy.
kevin hart
It's so easy to talk about hate.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
And so many people don't realize that in a group, You do it.
You ping pong hate off of one another.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Unless it's funny.
kevin hart
It can be funny hate.
joe rogan
Sometimes it can be good hate.
kevin hart
Funny hate is just between yourselves.
joe rogan
Like Patrice?
kevin hart
Patrice was one of the best.
joe rogan
Funny hate.
kevin hart
One of the best funny haters.
unidentified
Okay.
kevin hart
Okay.
You bring up a good point.
Comedic hate.
joe rogan
It's a different kind of hate.
kevin hart
It's a different kind of hate.
Comedic hate.
Rest in peace, Patrice O'Neal.
joe rogan
Rest in peace.
kevin hart
Probably the best.
Patrice used to do...
I remember when I would talk, and if I was saying something, you would just hear...
What?
What are you talking about?
He's like, ugh.
What?
What are you talking about?
unidentified
He's like, just the way you talk bugs me.
kevin hart
I was like, what?
Your voice.
Everything about your voice just makes me want to punch you in the face.
I was like, what are you talking about?
He's like, ugh.
joe rogan
When he would go after you, too, it kind of made you feel good, too.
Like, if you're a comic, especially if you're a comic, like, I called Opie and Anthony once, I was talking to them, and Anthony, Anthony always has a gun on him.
He carries a gun everywhere.
Like, he has a concealed carry permit and shit, and I said to him, I said, do you ever worry that maybe you're putting out this energy and you're manifesting something, like some sort of an attack on you, because you're constantly dwelling on it, and you always have this gun?
And Patrice goes, Joe believe in magic.
Joe believe in conjuring up the world.
unidentified
Hey man, a positive energy just starts laughing.
joe rogan
See, he is magic.
Joe's magic.
unidentified
And I'm like, ah!
joe rogan
When he would go after you, man, it's like you just want to step back and watch.
kevin hart
I remember he got Bill Burr so mad one time.
Oh, Bill used to get so fucking mad.
Beautiful thing about Bill Burr, but we'd be snapping.
Bill was the guy that'd get mad.
It's not funny!
joe rogan
If you went after him.
kevin hart
None of it's funny.
Y'all laughing?
Where's the punchline in it?
There's no punchline.
He'll get so fucking mad.
The Comedy Cellar, the days that we had there, man, Bill Burr, Patrice O'Neal, Keith Robinson, Jim Norton, Colin Quinn, myself, when I say we would sit at this table and We would sit at this table for four to five hours and it would be nothing but beautiful trash-ins to one another.
When I say they used to give me so much shit, that's probably why it's so hard to bother me now.
The trash-ins that I took from the age 20 to 24...
In my young comedic career about how awful I was.
I had a joke way in the beginning of my career.
Let me preface this.
This was way in the beginning of my career.
This was a joke that I had about little people.
Midgets at the time.
It was so bad.
I got robbed by a cross-eyed midget.
The joke was, I didn't know he was robbing me because I was with somebody else.
He was looking at my friend, but he was robbing me.
It was like a play on being cross-eyed.
It was a very, very awful joke.
I remember telling this joke and a phone book comes flying on the stage.
unidentified
Patrice threw a fucking phone book at me.
kevin hart
I'm talking, this is the way at the Boston Comedy Club.
It's people in a crowd.
joe rogan
Tiny little place.
kevin hart
All you heard was...
And you see, bap!
It hits the floor.
And I say, yo, what the fuck was that?
And Patrice said, read it!
unidentified
There's better material in it than what you're saying now.
kevin hart
Crowd starts laughing.
He's, ugh!
When I say, they used to trash me so bad.
So bad, man.
Get your legendary Patrice a new story.
I caught Patrice jerking off in my house before.
unidentified
This is...
kevin hart
This is, I moved to LA. I'm staying in the two bedroom apartment.
I just got there.
Patrice is coming out.
I said, yo, you need to play sex.
I got two bedrooms.
You can come there.
This is my ex-wife at the time.
You know, I come home.
It's like afternoon.
I was like, Patrice.
I'm like, yo, you home?
Patrice.
Patrice.
I go in the back.
Open up the door.
I had this big ass computer.
unidentified
Oh, All I see is his back hunched over.
It's like baby oil right here.
kevin hart
And I come in.
I'm like, yo, what you doing?
He's like, yo, get out.
unidentified
Get out.
kevin hart
Get out.
Are you jerking off of my house, man?
He's so sick.
unidentified
He's so fucking sick that he didn't stop.
He's like, get out.
Get out.
Get out.
He was so concerned with finishing that he didn't even break stride.
kevin hart
He didn't turn around, acknowledge me nothing.
Get out!
unidentified
Get out!
kevin hart
You just saw his back hunched.
unidentified
He came out like seven minutes later.
kevin hart
He was like, my bad.
I didn't know he was coming home.
Didn't even acknowledge me nothing.
Fucking Patrice, man.
I love him to death.
Love him to death.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had the most don't give a fuck of any comic I ever met.
The most.
kevin hart
100%.
Good and bad, though.
There was good to it and there was also some bad to...
A lot of things that didn't happen for Patrice probably could have happened, but I think the level of not give a fuck prevented some of those things.
joe rogan
Well, he was almost too authentic.
Yes.
Did you ever see that?
Was it Charlie Sheen's roast?
Whose roast was it that he did where he just tortured everybody else that was on the roast with him?
kevin hart
And then he got up there and afterwards...
joe rogan
You motherfuckers aren't on my level.
kevin hart
Why am I here?
joe rogan
Why am I here?
kevin hart
I shouldn't even be here with you guys.
Who the fuck is this bitch?
Oh my god.
Patrice has so many of those things.
So many things.
One of the best to do it.
If you are listening, you're not educated on Patrice O'Neal.
I ask that you just watch Elephant in the Room, one of his specials.
Some of the funniest shit ever, man.
joe rogan
And so insightful.
He was so wise.
Very smart.
The way people thought and behaved, he would say shit.
Like one of the things that he said that I tell people all the time, it's a brilliant thing that he said.
It was, I forget what controversy it was, but he was on television with some woman.
It was saying that you should never tell jokes about certain things.
They were getting mad at someone.
I think it was Opie and Anthony about a joke.
And he said, you've got to understand that all jokes come from the same place.
The ones you like and the ones you don't like.
The ones that make you laugh and the ones that make you mad.
They all come from the same place.
Someone's just trying to be funny.
Sometimes they just don't work.
kevin hart
I had a talk with...
I forgot her name.
I forgot her name, but it was when I was doing all the promo for Upside and they kept trying to break down where the jokes come from.
Kevin, these insensitive jokes that you told back then.
Why?
Why would you even say those things?
And the hardest thing for me to explain, I was like, do you think people think of jokes and while thinking of them, think that they're not going to be funny?
Everything that you think of in a joke form, you're thinking of it because you think you're going to get a laugh behind it.
The gamble is, if I get to laugh versus not get to laugh.
If I don't get to laugh, the joke was not funny.
If I get a laugh, then I guess I'm on to something.
There isn't a bunch of thought that goes into the funny moments that we think may be great bits.
I wish that I had a more logical answer to put behind it.
I said, but I don't, especially at that time in my career.
I just thought it would be funny.
The same way that some people think certain jokes are funny that aren't funny.
It's a thought.
Comedians are constantly throwing shit out there.
You're constantly rolling the dice and throwing shit out there.
Half the shit you roll ain't good.
It's not going to be good.
The other half may be alright.
May be kind of good.
But it's all with the intent of entertaining.
It's not with the intent of being malicious.
It's not with the intent of sparking hatred.
It's all trying to make you laugh.
joe rogan
That's it.
kevin hart
It's literally that simple from a thought within a comedian's mind.
Nothing else.
And they kept trying to look for this hard definition of why.
And I was like, I don't have it.
I don't have the reason why.
unidentified
I thought it would be funny, and it wasn't.
kevin hart
That's the downfall.
That's it.
joe rogan
And the thing is about this art form is that up until 10, 15 years ago, there was never any discussion like this.
It wasn't...
So when we developed and when we were coming up, there was never...
It was just like...
And there was always guys that would push the envelope way too far.
He'd be like, Jesus Christ, you see his new bit?
What the fuck?
And you'd be laughing.
You'd tell it to each other and be like...
And it didn't matter what it...
There's a joke about murder or rape or whatever.
Some people just, they choose those dark subjects.
It's like they're trying to make us laugh.
kevin hart
Yeah.
The comedian's comedian.
joe rogan
There's always going to be those.
kevin hart
Where you're just in the back, you go, ooh.
joe rogan
Do you know Brian Holtzman?
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Brian Holtzman's that guy.
kevin hart
100%.
joe rogan
He's one of my funniest dudes.
kevin hart
And there's no way that I could say.
Some of the stuff that I heard him say.
joe rogan
Do you remember Susan Smith, that lady who drowned her kids?
kevin hart
I know who you're talking about, and I know the moment, but I'm not familiar with all that involves.
joe rogan
Holtzman was on stage that week, and he's like...
I heard those kids were bad.
I heard they sat that close to the TV. They never put away their blocks.
They always spilt their milk.
Those kids will not be missed.
And you were just like, what in the fuck?
kevin hart
It was like 9-11 when 9-11 happened.
joe rogan
They wouldn't let him on stage.
Mitzi Shore would not let him on stage for months after 9-11.
She's like, no way.
Keep him off the stage.
kevin hart
I mean, do you have the people that just are...
They go for that.
joe rogan
They go for it because they want to hear you howling in the back of the room.
They know that, like, if it's, you know, comics are there in the back of the room, they're going to laugh their fucking ass off at that shit.
kevin hart
And, you know, it's weird because right now within The Times, I'm the comedian that chooses to be sensitive to The Times.
You know, I've made the choice to say, I understand.
I get why you shouldn't say certain things or why you should avoid this, that, or this.
I understand and I am.
But then there's other comedians that go, you know what?
I'm on stage and I'm going to be me and I'm not going to do that because people are telling me that this is what I... And do that.
That just exists.
It just exists.
But I think it's easier to just say, I'm not a fan.
That comedy isn't for me.
You know what?
I don't like the taste of this particular comedian, so I'm not going to support or watch that comedian.
I'm going to find another comedian that's more to my liking.
I'm going to go and just turn my head.
I want us to get back to just understanding that you just don't have to support it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
That's it.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of fucking options.
kevin hart
I mean, there's so many.
joe rogan
Today?
kevin hart
Yeah, there's so many.
joe rogan
There's never been more.
Never been more comics.
There's so many.
Think about how many people are doing Netflix specials today.
kevin hart
There's so many.
joe rogan
There's never been more.
kevin hart
It's so many.
joe rogan
Crazy.
kevin hart
So, I don't understand why there's a push to destroy, which you just don't have to support or like.
joe rogan
I think it's just a bunch of people that have an ability to influence things now that didn't have an ability before.
And it's like they see a window and they want to throw a rock.
It's right there.
kevin hart
Makes sense.
joe rogan
I think there's something there.
unidentified
But I also think for us...
joe rogan
For me in particular, I really like fucked up comedy.
I like Quentin Tarantino movies where people get shot and killed.
I don't want anybody to get shot and killed in real life, but I like fucked up comedy.
Do you know who Tim Dillon is?
kevin hart
Yes, I do.
joe rogan
Pull up that fucking video of him being Meghan McCain.
Have you seen this?
unidentified
No.
kevin hart
I'm laughing already though.
joe rogan
He is a savage dude.
He goes so hard.
But I saw this video.
Tears are rolling down my eyes.
I was crying.
And I was like, okay, this guy's needed.
We need this right now.
Because during this political correct push, you got this big giant gay dude who doesn't give a fuck.
He's an animal, man.
Watch this shit.
My father died, I had a baby with him.
And it will be raised in captivity.
unidentified
It will be raised privately to be the greatest politician that has ever lived.
My name is Meghan McCain and I'm on a news show called You.
And Donald Trump, that fucking riverboat casino captain, is talking shit about my father again.
My father was tortured for a hundred years for this fucking country.
And he came back and he started seven wars because he's a gentleman.
joe rogan
Fuck you, Trump.
unidentified
I'm going to wear my father's skin mask and I'm going to primary Trump from the right.
joe rogan
Come on The View, bitch.
If you're that tough, come on The View.
unidentified
You want an Alexander Casio Cortes?
You want this shit?
joe rogan
You want to fuck these tits, Trump?
unidentified
You want to fuck these tits?
No, you don't.
joe rogan
You want to suck cops.
unidentified
But I won't fuck you because the only person I'll fuck is daddy.
I'll fuck his corpse.
joe rogan
I'll fuck daddy's corpse.
Before my father died, I had a baby.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
He's an animal, bro.
joe rogan
He's an animal.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
He's wearing, folks, you don't know, he's wearing lipstick and a wig and he's smoking a cigarette in a dress and he's all of 300 pounds.
He's such a fucking animal.
He is such a fucking animal.
kevin hart
You want to fuck teeth?
unidentified
No, you told me you just want to suck on.
joe rogan
I don't want to fuck you because I only fucked daddy.
kevin hart
Oh my goodness.
That's pretty damn...
That's what I'm saying.
It's out there.
joe rogan
They need that guy.
We need him.
kevin hart
It's out there.
joe rogan
We need guys like that.
kevin hart
I mean, the beautiful thing of what we were just talking about, what we said is like, it's just, it's very easy to just say, you know what, that's not for me, and find what it is.
joe rogan
Or to say, that's for me.
kevin hart
Yes, everybody's humor is different.
I laughed, I laughed, there's a...
There's a viral video of this old guy trying to hoverboard.
He's like, fuck, he's got to be like 69, 70. And his grandkids are there, and he's like, let me try it, let me try it.
And this man gets on this hoverboard.
If you saw Mike Tyson fall on the hoverboard, his fall was worse than Mike Tyson's.
I've never seen somebody hit their head harder in my life.
And I didn't laugh out of wanting to see this old man hurt himself.
I laughed because it was stupid to try to get on this hoverboard in the first place.
And when he got up, he tells the kids, why is it moving like that?
I played this video for everybody because that shit made me laugh.
Some people were watching and go, oh no, no.
Some people were watching and go, oh, oh, oh.
And others would just die fucking laughing because everybody's humor is different.
Everybody's fucking humor is different.
My humor is different.
Falling makes me laugh.
I don't care who you are.
Falling makes me laugh.
I don't give a shit who you are.
If you fall in front of me, No shot I'm holding that laugh at.
There's no shot.
There's no shot.
You don't stand a chance.
If you fall in front of me, there's no shot that I'm not...
unidentified
Ha!
kevin hart
Ha!
Bust your ass!
Something's got to come out.
joe rogan
Right.
kevin hart
Falling is funny.
I still think...
It's hacky.
I still think farts are funny.
When my kids fart, I laugh.
I still...
Until this day, it's the funniest shit ever to me.
Come on, stop it, baby.
You stink.
Get out of here.
Stank ass.
My little son.
17 months.
When he farted, I laughed.
Something within just the ability to just be fucking silly and stupid.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
kevin hart
It doesn't always have to have a meaning behind it.
Some shit is just stupid.
joe rogan
My eight-year-old farts on cue.
She thinks it's hilarious.
kevin hart
First of all, that's genius.
joe rogan
She'll tell you, listen, I gotta talk to you about something.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
And she starts laughing.
She thinks it's hilarious.
She'll fall down on the couch.
kevin hart
It's the best thing in the world.
joe rogan
She can't stop laughing.
kevin hart
It's the best thing in the world.
That's what you're talking about.
As a kid, that's all you got.
That's your only bit as a kid.
You got nothing else but farts.
That's all you got.
That's all you got to make people laugh.
You should enjoy it.
joe rogan
You should.
kevin hart
I still think it's funny.
But falling is number one for me.
Falling is number one.
My wife fell down the steps.
She got so mad because I didn't rush to help her.
I laughed.
She had a wine glass.
Wine was all over the walls.
Oh my God.
One of the worst falls I've ever seen in my damn life.
Got up.
Her shoe was on one step.
The other shoe was all...
Falling is funny.
I like it.
joe rogan
I don't laugh at falling that much.
I just deal with too many injuries.
I've seen too many people get hurt.
kevin hart
It's not for you.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not for me.
Especially old dudes falling down, hitting their head.
I'm like...
I start thinking about brain trauma and CTE and long-term repercussions and the impact.
kevin hart
After the laugh, I'm there.
I'm right there with you.
joe rogan
I think your approach is probably better.
kevin hart
I'm right there with you.
joe rogan
There's the one that's going on today of this dude trying to come up the stairs on this other dude.
Did you see that one?
And the guy stomped him and sent him flying.
I'm like, all I could think of is we don't see it in the video, but that guy's head has got to be smithereens.
kevin hart
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Like he had to hit his head the way he fell back.
kevin hart
You ever see one of the guy who slipped and fell down a bunch of steps at the museum and he falls in the water?
He just keeps going into the goals in the water.
Brilliant.
You can't beat that to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, here's this dude.
This dude's walking up the stairs, and this dude's like, get the fuck off my porch.
Stop.
Leave me alone.
And he keeps coming.
He's like, don't do it.
Don't do it.
And he got, boom!
unidentified
Smacked.
joe rogan
The way he fell back, there was no hands behind him.
That's all head.
That's all head.
kevin hart
First of all, to not see that kick coming from a guy that size.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin hart
It's sad.
joe rogan
But you also have to realize a guy that size is carrying all that weight all day long.
No, no, no.
kevin hart
That's the equivalent of a donkey kicking you right there.
unidentified
That's a donkey.
kevin hart
Yes, 100%.
joe rogan
That's a stomped.
kevin hart
Your chest is caved in right there.
joe rogan
You got stomped.
kevin hart
But to not see it once again.
joe rogan
I've always thought that about fat people.
That if you're really, really fat, imagine how strong your fucking legs must be.
kevin hart
It's the strongest shit ever.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
If you really get some power behind that kick.
joe rogan
And also, if you lost the weight, you'd have these incredible legs.
unidentified
That's always a theory, just what's under there, of course.
joe rogan
I always wonder if their knees are going to shrink.
kevin hart
Wait, what?
joe rogan
Because you see someone from behind, they're like 500 pounds, like their knees are that wide.
I'm like, okay, is that the bone?
Like, is that fat around the bone?
Like, has the bone grown really wide?
Because your body does, your bones do get denser if you do like heavy weight.
Like, if you look at like power lifter dudes, they're dense.
And part of it is not just their frame, it's that they're constantly lifting heavy things.
So your body thickens up.
kevin hart
As you go.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin hart
But, you know, when people that are larger make the dedication to actually losing the weight and they stay away from, like, the weights and stuff and just do cardio, it sheds off so fast.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
Like, I know a couple of friends of mine that lost, like, 130, 140 pounds and, like, have now just fallen in love with fitness to the point where...
It's unbelievable how their body is transformed and taking a liking to the new process that they're now in.
joe rogan
Yeah, they get addicted instead of food.
They get addicted to being healthy.
kevin hart
Exactly.
joe rogan
It's totally possible.
kevin hart
Totally possible.
joe rogan
I've had, I don't know how many people come up to me and said they've lost 100 pounds plus because of listening to my show and having fitness experts on and diet experts and just talking about Staying the fuck away from sugar.
Don't eat late at night.
Stop eating.
Stop eating at a certain time and give yourself more than enough time to digest.
Cal your calories.
Start exercising.
kevin hart
Well, with me, I think the thing with me that helps me so much is I'm not a foodie.
joe rogan
You're not?
kevin hart
I'm not a foodie, man.
I'm just not.
I'm the most boring guy to go eat with.
I'm just making a turd.
That's it.
I'm literally just.
What is that?
Yeah, that's fine.
Let me get this baked chicken, some brown rice.
That's fine.
I'm good.
joe rogan
You don't worry about eating healthy or clean?
kevin hart
I'm a healthy eater because I'm not a foodie.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
kevin hart
So it's not like it doesn't matter.
I don't have the will or want to eat the bad shit.
joe rogan
So if you're passing by In-N-Out Burger, nothing?
kevin hart
No.
joe rogan
Nothing?
kevin hart
No, man.
I'm black.
Fried chicken.
Fried chicken.
Oh, okay.
Now you showed me a Popeye's.
Popeye's.
Roscoe's is good too, but Popeye's.
joe rogan
Really?
Popeye's over Roscoe's?
kevin hart
Yes, man.
unidentified
Popeye's.
kevin hart
I don't understand.
Popeye's is fucking, I don't know what's in that chicken batter, man.
joe rogan
It's pretty damn good.
The spicy?
unidentified
Damn it.
joe rogan
Do you like the spicy?
kevin hart
Spicy set my ass on fire, but I'm still going to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
I'm still going to do it, but I'm just not, I can consistently eat the same thing and be fine.
joe rogan
How is Popeyes the only one who figured out that red beans and rice is a great thing to have on the side?
No one else has it.
kevin hart
It's the best thing ever.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
Why doesn't Burger King or McDonald's have red beans and rice?
kevin hart
Popeyes is so good.
So good that when I was younger, I was about 22. I was on a bike.
I got hit by a car.
unidentified
Right?
kevin hart
Not too hard to where I was damaged.
But I had Popeyes in my hand.
Like the bag.
I was riding on my bike and holding it.
One hand.
unidentified
Bop!
kevin hart
Got hit.
Never let go of the bag.
unidentified
Wow.
kevin hart
That's how good Popeye's is.
The bike, everything else.
Boom!
I'm there.
Popeye's.
I held on to it.
Nothing was damaged.
Still took it home and finished that meal.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
kevin hart
That's how good Popeye's is.
100%.
So that's my cheat.
My cheat is Popeye's all day.
Other than that, I'm a consistent either.
I'm a healthy guy.
joe rogan
So do you take vitamins or supplements or anything?
kevin hart
I used to take multivitamins, which inspired me to start doing my own.
Like right now, we got Vita Hustle.
I'm starting my own supplement line.
Vita Hustle is the multivitamin that we're putting out.
But let me tell you why, though.
I'm going to tell you why I'm even getting into this space.
So when I look at physical fitness and I look at this world, I notice that, you know, you have a...
You have a great want and need to look like everything around you that you see.
Everybody that's a part of this world, they look so fucking great and fit when they're talking about these products and the things they can do.
And I said, what I'm able to do and what I've done in my past...
I'm always bringing people together of all, like in whole.
Nobody's alienated.
When I did my runs with Nike and before I got signed by Nike, it was about bringing a bunch of people that never ran before and getting you guys to get up and just come run with me.
Just try it.
And you notice I got people out that never thought they would fucking do it and we're doing five miles.
We're doing ten miles.
Whatever.
Just a group run.
Something to say we did.
I said, how can I create a product where I'm putting people in a position to understand there's a hustle in all of us?
That's what my multivitamin is about.
It's the energy.
It's the recharge.
It's the ability to focus.
It's to approach your day With all of the tools that you basically need.
It's not just about the physical fitness aspect.
It's about the health.
So if I can actually motivate people to take the step in the right direction of health with a line of supplements that are driven for the everyday individual that may not know or be aware but wants to engage.
But you're not in it to look like all these different people.
You're in it to be the best version of yourself.
How can I do that?
Teamed up with a great group of people to create the best possible products that I want to do.
And I said I want to be patient.
So it took me four years.
Four years to create Vita Hustle.
joe rogan
And how many different products do you have?
kevin hart
Right now, just Vita Hustle.
Vita Hustle is my only one right now.
joe rogan
So it's just a vitamin?
kevin hart
Just a multivitamin.
But it's an amazing multivitamin.
joe rogan
Is it a single pill or is it a packet?
kevin hart
No, it's a jar.
I should have fucking bought one.
Good job.
unidentified
A jar?
kevin hart
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
So you like mix it and stuff?
kevin hart
No, it's a jar full of like a...
joe rogan
Oh, pills?
kevin hart
Yes, pills.
Okay.
I'm going to tell you the dope stuff that's in it.
Because I don't want to not say anything and have it to where it's wrong.
So I always have shit on my phone.
joe rogan
He's got it up on the screen.
kevin hart
Man, look how good he is.
How good is he, man?
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
I get it, man.
kevin hart
Hey, I see it.
That's why you're here.
I was doing the same thing on my phone.
joe rogan
Blueberry fruit extract.
Scroll back up there.
Boron, biotin, beta carotene, vitamin A. That's all good shit.
kevin hart
It's all good shit.
It's more than a multivitamin.
joe rogan
Vitamin A. It's good.
D-E. What is that stuff?
kevin hart
Tocotranols.
joe rogan
Vitamin E family.
You ever heard of that, Jimmy?
Vitamin K. Look it up.
All right.
kevin hart
Look it up.
The good thing, too, is that everything that's in it, you know, it's...
Not only is it researchable, but you'll see why.
Like, my biggest thing, like, as a guy that's not as familiar with the space, I said, who are the people that are that do it at a high level that I can incorporate into helping me build this product?
So, I feel like you're never going to do it by yourself.
You shouldn't try to do it by yourself.
And you don't cut corners, you don't go the cheap route, you don't do it wrong, so then you have to go back and do it again.
So I went and I looked at the people that were involved with creating the quote-unquote best markets, the best things on the market, and I put that team together.
I put up a team of like four to five, and when I tell you four years, I spent a lot of money developing this shit.
Because it wasn't right in the beginning.
Had to go back.
Had to do it again.
Wasn't right.
Had to go back.
Find out the other things that made other things better.
Other things great.
Had to go right.
Go get it again.
Go try it.
Go do it again.
Not right.
What else is out there?
What do we compare it to?
Until I felt that now when I launch, there's going to be a place for my product in the market where people will understand that it's exactly what I said it was.
There's no lying.
There is no false presentation behind a product.
Kevin Hart's multivitamin is much more than multivitamin, but more importantly, it's something for everybody.
And more importantly, it's to spark the hustle within all of us.
And this is the first.
There will be more, but it'll be after I've mastered and I've done this at the highest level that I move to product number two.
Then I move to product number three.
Before you know it, you're going to see a fucking whole line that Kevin Hart has slowly developed and that people can actually believe in because I'm going to be a product of my own product.
That's the best thing in the world.
When you're a product of your product, it has to work for me before I say it's going to work for everybody else.
joe rogan
So you take this stuff.
kevin hart
You're goddamn right I take it.
joe rogan
How long have you been taking it?
kevin hart
I spent all this fucking money on it.
I better take it.
I've been taking the one that's launching now for about five to six months.
joe rogan
Nice.
kevin hart
I've been taking this one.
I'm very happy because I actually feel the difference.
And the difference is just in the energy that you have within a day.
It's not an energy fucking pill, but I do feel a difference in my life.
In my ability to last throughout my day.
I do a lot, man.
I do a fucking lot.
So I told you, I'm starting at that 5, 530, and I'm not shutting down till at 9, 10. I saw a video once where you were taking a video of your trainer passed out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you were like, this lifestyle's not for everybody.
kevin hart
Everybody around me shuts down.
Very unattractive sleeper, by the way.
Shouts out to boss Ronald Everline.
One of the worst sleepers you'll ever see.
joe rogan
So you take him with you everywhere?
kevin hart
Yeah.
My trainer's with me everywhere.
joe rogan
Wow.
kevin hart
Everywhere.
joe rogan
So you train every day?
kevin hart
Every day.
Wow.
Every day.
Sundays are light days.
Light cardio.
Maintenance is what we call it.
Not doing the same thing all the time.
We switch it up.
Love switching it up.
Love finding new things within fitness to make it fun.
You never want to get bored within it.
joe rogan
So your whole purpose is just to keep your vitality up, keep your energy up?
kevin hart
If I don't do it, then there's a lag.
I need to train.
I need to do it because I'm mentally so invested in it now that when I don't do it, I feel like I've cheated myself.
a day or a week that I've taken off, I feel like, yo, man, I'm not myself.
Because when I am doing it, I feel like I'm always, I'm committed.
I'm committed to constantly building and reshaping and molding.
I'm working on me.
So when I'm not working on me, I don't feel like my day that's supposed to be about me is starting off with the biggest bang.
joe rogan
Right.
kevin hart
This is my advantage to starting off like nobody else.
My day starts off before fucking worms and birds get up.
joe rogan
What time do you get up?
kevin hart
Five.
joe rogan
Five, and that's when you start working out?
kevin hart
I'm in my gym, 515, 520. Really?
515, 520. No food?
I don't eat.
I don't eat before I work out.
I'm not an eater before I work out.
Never have been, no.
What I am now, because I'm getting older, I'm more conscious of my body, so I'm big with...
Sports massages.
I'm big with, you know, making sure that I'm not putting myself in a position to get injured and overworked.
So getting stretched, you know, trying to do as much movement as I possibly can.
Like when I say I'm a little walking muscle, I really am.
So my flexibility is limited.
So right now that's my biggest focus.
So I'm about to start yoga.
Trying to do that.
Things that can just kind of keep me in a position to not tighten up so I don't pull anything because I do so much.
joe rogan
Are you going to do hot yoga?
kevin hart
Hot yoga.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I do that shit all the time.
unidentified
Do you really?
joe rogan
Love it.
kevin hart
Amazing.
joe rogan
I do it every week.
Yeah.
kevin hart
Only thing that's kept me from doing it is the smell that's possibly in there.
That's the only thing that's kept me out of it.
joe rogan
You gotta move past that.
kevin hart
I hear it get pretty bad.
joe rogan
Sometimes it can.
The place I go to is nice.
You just gotta make sure that the people take care of themselves.
You don't want to be around smelly people.
kevin hart
I'll be honest with you.
I'm worried about myself.
I don't know what I'm gonna give up.
joe rogan
Well, especially if you get there early in the morning and you don't eat, you won't worry about farting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the people that eat breakfast...
kevin hart
They're going there.
They're letting off and everything.
joe rogan
I had to explain that to Killer Mike.
He was talking to me about farting in yoga class.
kevin hart
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
You can't be eating.
kevin hart
No.
joe rogan
You can't be eating before that.
kevin hart
How early are you going?
joe rogan
I like to go either 6am, which is rare, most of the time 8, 8, 8.30.
Depends on which place I go to, too.
kevin hart
But you love it, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
You love it.
joe rogan
It's great for your head, too.
It's 90 minutes of suffering.
You know, it's hot as fuck.
105 degrees, 104 degrees.
When you get out of there, you feel like you did something.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And it just changes the way your body feels, too, in terms of your range of motion, your flexibility.
All those weird connecting knots and everything just get opened up and...
kevin hart
My question is, when you're just starting, though, like I will be, is it extremely tough in the beginning?
joe rogan
Just got to bring a lot of ice water.
Just bring a big old fucking 64 ounce, one of those thermal flasks of ice water.
Make sure you have enough water and drink enough water before it.
kevin hart
I'm talking about putting me in the back when I'm starting out.
I don't need to be where people can see me.
They got like a section in the back.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you turn left and you turn right, everyone's going to see you.
kevin hart
That's what I'm saying.
Can I be in a place where they don't see me in the beginning?
Like, I don't want anybody to see.
joe rogan
You're athletic, man.
You're going to be fine.
You're going to be tight.
It's going to be difficult for you to pull off certain poses, but you'll be fine.
kevin hart
I'm definitely going to do it.
I'm definitely going to try.
joe rogan
And then you realize it's a challenge.
kevin hart
I'm definitely 100% going to try.
joe rogan
You ever fuck with jiu-jitsu?
kevin hart
No.
That's next.
joe rogan
Yes.
I want to hear that.
kevin hart
That's next.
unidentified
That's what I want to hear.
kevin hart
Listen, this is where Rico was laughing because I said, yo, man, don't laugh when I tell you this.
I've never thrown a kick.
I said, so whatever you show me right now, this will be my first time doing it.
I don't kick.
I don't know how to kick.
unidentified
Right.
kevin hart
So whatever you show me, This will be me processing it for the first time.
And that day we did it, we worked on it, and I think I threw a couple good kicks.
joe rogan
A couple good front kicks?
kevin hart
And I said, look, after I'm done with boxing, I said this will be my next task, to learn how to properly throw some kicks and to move with my bottom half, now that I've worked on my top.
That's my next hobby.
joe rogan
That's your next hobby.
But jujitsu.
You know, jujitsu is like chokes.
kevin hart
That's the tussling and chokes and thorn and stuff.
joe rogan
That's what we're talking about.
You want to do that too?
kevin hart
As you get older, you have to find shit to do.
joe rogan
Right.
kevin hart
If you don't find shit to do, you're going to lose your mind.
joe rogan
You would get addicted to that.
kevin hart
I just want to learn shit.
joe rogan
You would like it.
Because there's so much to learn.
That's the thing about it.
It's a long, long journey.
kevin hart
Never ending.
joe rogan
Never ending.
kevin hart
Never ending journey of shit.
joe rogan
There's also so many different variations of each different individual move and entries into new moves and defense.
And then the structure of it, it gets so crazy.
It's super complicated.
kevin hart
My son is heavy into boxing and karate.
I got him into those.
So he does them both.
So the reason why I want to do it, I just like to keep up with him so we can, you know.
Do things together.
I have trainers come to the house and we'll work out together.
He loves it.
So I just don't want to get left behind.
joe rogan
You don't want your son to be able to kick your ass?
kevin hart
I don't want that.
When he gets 17, 18, what you say dad?
unidentified
Hold on, hold on.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't want that.
kevin hart
Boy, you better back up.
When he starts getting that much confidence, I just want to be able to keep up and maintain.
So that's why I like to do it with him.
joe rogan
Well, it's good for a kid, too, to have that in your head when you know how to defend yourself.
kevin hart
Confidence.
You need that for confidence.
joe rogan
It'll help you avoid things, too.
kevin hart
Well, I tell my kids, you know, your last name puts a target on your back that you didn't ask for.
And we don't go and create problems, but you should always be prepared for problems if they were to occur.
And if they do, I just want you guys to know how to defend yourself.
So the things that I have my kids doing is just have the knowledge and understanding.
The worst thing is just not knowing.
You know, they're growing up completely different than I grew up.
Where I grew up, you had no choice but to know.
If you ain't know how to fight, that's your ass.
Because you're going to get tested.
There's no way around it.
You're going to get tried.
You're going to get robbed.
You're going to get your book bag taken.
Somebody's going to try to take your sneaks.
It's the reality.
It's not a false reality.
That's real.
So if you're not prepared for it, if you don't have any type of heart...
You won't last from where I grew up.
Heart was everything.
And heart was sometimes saying, I don't care if I get my ass whooped.
I'm not going to be a bitch.
I'm not going to allow y'all to think that this can happen, so I'm going to lose today.
But tomorrow, I'm going to come back and I'm going to find you.
Whatever that moment was, it was about establishing any level of respect that you could.
And that respect eventually turned into friendship from all.
So my kids don't know what that world is like.
They're never going to have it.
So as a parent, I just have to make sure that you have all the tools that I can possibly equip you with.
Because my parents didn't have the ability to provide me with that.
They weren't a financial space to take me here and have this extracurricular activity or this extracurricular activity or learn this or learn that.
It didn't exist.
joe rogan
That is the big conundrum of successful people.
unidentified
Great word.
joe rogan
When successful people...
Have kids, what made them successful is dry.
I grew up poor, too.
We were on welfare and food stamps, the whole deal when I was a little kid.
And that always stuck in my head, this thought, like, we might not have enough food.
Like, I remember thinking that when I was little.
Like, what if we don't have any food?
What if we run out of food?
My kids will never feel that.
They don't understand what that is.
And everybody that I've ever met that's interesting came from some crazy struggle when they were young.
And that's the thing of you and I and most people that are doing well in life, you're raising your kids in a completely different way than literally what brought you to the dance in the first place.
The hunger of not being one of those people that's left behind is what makes you successful in the first place.
kevin hart
And it's scary...
It's scary because my wife told me, she was like, I love that you're not hard on your kids, but you always make sure there's a lesson within your conversation.
I don't yell.
I don't yell at my kids.
Nothing's going to register when I'm yelling.
So I try my best to talk to you.
Even when I'm at my angriest, I'm going to talk to you so you can process this because you need to understand what's the problem.
You need to understand what's wrong.
And what I had to really realize is, They didn't ask to be born into this.
It's not their fault that they're coming up completely different than how we were raised.
and we can't have anger or frustration that's dedicated and thrown towards them because they got it so much better than what we had how do we make sure that we pass down the proper lessons so that they appreciate and understand not take for granted what they have.
joe rogan
- Right, right.
kevin hart
- For me it's tough because I got good kids, they're good students, they apply themselves in school, they listen, they don't do dumb shit.
Yeah, they want to play video games and stay up like any other kid.
There's no signs of bad or crazy.
And the fear and panic is that you got to know that bad and crazy exists.
This fairy tale that we're in isn't real.
And at some point, when I'm not around, when your mother's not around...
When your friends or other family aren't around, you may get tested with the other side that's out here that you've never seen.
Right.
So I gotta prepare you for the shit that you don't know exists.
I gotta take you to Philadelphia so you can see.
I try to show my kids where I grew up.
Thinking it's going to be like a, oh my goodness.
Backfired.
unidentified
It's so cool.
kevin hart
Can we live here?
Shut up.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
kevin hart
What the fuck are you talking about?
unidentified
Get in the car.
kevin hart
Everybody, get in the car right now.
Everybody, we'll talk about this when we get back.
This does not go the way I was supposed to.
Oh my God, it's so cool, Dad.
It's so different.
Oh my goodness.
Walk them around the neighborhood and it's like, it's not a reality.
You didn't have grass.
Goodness, Dad.
joe rogan
Oh, that's crazy.
kevin hart
Where'd you play?
joe rogan
Wow.
kevin hart
When you hear.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin hart
When you hear these things, it's so different, man.
These were your steps.
The steps are broken.
How did you even play?
Oh, my God, Dad.
So, wait.
Where was yours?
We lived on the top floor.
Not the whole thing?
No.
This is three separate units.
So the top floor was me and grandmoms.
The middle, that was somebody else.
That was a neighbor.
And downstairs was somebody else.
Three different people lived in this one thing.
unidentified
Together, y'all are strangers?
kevin hart
Hey, shut up.
My own answer.
Everybody in the car.
unidentified
Get in the car.
kevin hart
I don't know what to do.
I don't know what to say at this part.
Get right in the car.
But when you see that, that's the reality that you get hit with of I got to make sure that I'm talking.
I gotta make sure that I'm constantly teaching.
If I'm not, then I'm not doing my part.
I'm failing.
Took them to the neighborhood and showed them how stores are in the neighborhood.
That's where we got candy from.
Here's where we would get little sandwiches from.
We don't have no stores like this.
We can't walk to stuff.
It's a completely different world.
unidentified
It's a completely different world.
kevin hart
See people standing on the street corners.
What they doing there?
They selling drugs.
That's tough right there.
Those are people that your dad still knows.
They've been there forever.
That's what you don't want to do.
But they're forced with these decisions just because of what they have to do.
You just need to see this.
Dad is taking you here to see this.
Drove them all around.
All around North Philadelphia.
All around South Philadelphia.
Made sure that they could see it.
You gotta physically see.
We go out the country.
We go to these resorts and islands.
Before we go there, we're gonna drive around so you can see what exists.
Before you get to this...
This is why we have to be good people.
This is why we treat everybody with respect.
This is why your dad likes to give.
Everybody doesn't have.
I'm constantly beating my kids with that information.
Because if you assume that everybody does, you come off like such an asshole when you're around people that don't.
What?
How did you?
joe rogan
Also, the advantage that they had growing up the way they are now, it's such a rare thing.
And they don't understand it.
There's no way they could.
kevin hart
A very small percentage.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
A very small percentage.
And that's something that I never want to let go of either.
So I was in the back of my head.
So you're talking about how, you know, are we going to have enough food when you were coming up?
Chris Rock's joke is so great that he used to tell about how he keeps a bag packed at the front door because he don't believe that this shit is his.
He said, I truly believe that at any point somebody going to go, gotcha!
You thought you lived here, didn't you?
This ain't yours.
And I was like, it's so real.
Because even though you have it, you can't lose the sight of reality of what it once was.
joe rogan
Are you comfortable where you are now?
Or do you still have those thoughts?
Like, is this real?
Because you're at this stratosphere of fame and success.
It's rare amongst the rare.
You know, it's like David Goggin says, you are uncommon amongst uncommon men.
kevin hart
I will be 100% honest and say I'm comfortable with the understanding of hard work brings great rewards.
This is a reminder that Of the hard work and dedication that I put into everything that I've done.
I'm not content because I know where I came from and I don't ever want to go back.
That doesn't mean I don't want to go back to the city.
That doesn't mean I want to go back to the people.
That means I don't want to go back to living like I once was.
I want to go back and I want to help.
I want to inspire.
I want to motivate.
I want to show people that there is a way out.
That there is a way out.
To do more, to get more, to obtain more.
But I personally don't want to lose all that I've been able to get.
So I need to make sure that I do everything to keep it.
So I can't be content.
So there is an understanding, but I refuse to click on the switch of...
joe rogan
So even if you have more money than you'll ever spend for the rest of your life, that's not what it's about.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
It's about the inspiring people and the influence and constantly giving back and moving forward in a positive way.
And the only way you can do that is to stay active.
kevin hart
It's the story, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin hart
You know, we're all writing a book.
What's your book look like?
What does your fucking book look like?
Like your life is a book.
You got a bunch of chapters in your book.
But when they close that book, how good was the book?
How good was your book?
What was the ending to your book?
If the ending to my book can be so amazing because of all that was done.
Not the money.
All that was accomplished.
The first to do.
The man that did this.
He caused a merger between this.
Because of his commitment and growth to this, the communities were then given this.
Made education this.
Changed the way the schooling was blah blah blah.
Gave books.
Gave computers.
Gave all of the things that can be associated with you and your existence.
Become a part of the chapters in your book.
So my drive is about my book.
I was a New York Times number one bestseller.
People would be done.
They did it.
I'm writing another book.
joe rogan
You're writing a book right now?
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin hart
What happens if you are a two-time New York Times number one bestseller?
unidentified
If you get to two, what happens if you get to three?
kevin hart
Hey man, how do books become successful?
Who publishes them?
I want to start a publishing company.
Heartbeat Publishing.
Why not?
That's the thing.
All I'm doing is sparking The awareness in others to go, why not?
Why can't I create?
Why can't I start?
Why can't I be a business?
Why can't I be a CEO? Why can't I be a tech guru?
Why can't I fucking create cooking products?
Lotion, scents, there's so much that some people just don't understand they can do.
Let me be a spark to show how much, how many different, you don't have to do just one thing.
When it's all said and done, my book is going to be full of all the shit that Kevin Hart did.
Because I never was content with doing just one, two, or three.
Why not?
Kevin, why are you creating fucking health and wellness products?
Why not?
I'm big on health and wellness.
Why can't I try to create something that I feel is fucking great and jump into a space that I'm already in?
I already give 100% of me in this space.
Why not?
Why can't I talk about financial wealth?
Why can't I go back and educate those that don't know?
Why not?
You don't got the time.
I make time.
joe rogan
Well, you certainly can, but it's just so unusual that someone dedicates that much energy and time to giving back and getting involved with the kind of projects that you're talking about, as well as be super ambitious with your own career.
kevin hart
It makes me happy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I can tell.
kevin hart
I'm genuinely happy.
Discovery makes me happy.
Like, when you find different things to be excited about, it makes me happy.
And it's weird when it clicks.
In school, they used to tell you all the time, information is key.
Read these books.
There's so much knowledge.
Man, fuck that book.
Got time to read that book.
I want to go home.
Goddamn Sonic the Hedgehog.
I want to play.
I'm at level three.
I ain't got time to read this book.
The information and stuff that was forced down your throat, at a certain age, you just may not be receiving it correctly, but then it clicks.
You may gain information differently, and what you do with that information is up to you, but people have different roles they can go down.
The education wasn't my pick of choice.
It didn't do it for me.
But the knowledge and the common sense that I have naturally allowed me to gain information, apply it differently.
It allowed me to grow smart in so many different avenues.
To where I said, oh my God, I found my niche, I found my talent, and now there's other things that my talent can take me to.
I don't have all the knowledge and awareness, but I can allow myself with people to do that, can teach me.
Because now, guess what?
Learning is cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what happens when you don't have to do it anymore, right?
When you're a kid, they force you into this school, you don't want to learn.
But then when you get out, you realize, like, oh, this actually benefits me.
This is making me a better person.
This is making me wiser.
kevin hart
It's 100% reality.
And it's weird how it happens.
But when you go, oh, my God.
Learning and knowledge is power.
Fuck, they used to tell me this when I was 10. And you're like, what?
joe rogan
Yes.
kevin hart
10, 11 years old, I heard that shit all the time.
Now I finally get it.
Damn, I'm about to be 40. Took me all this time to get the goddamn code, but I got it.
It hits you at a different time.
And when it does, be excited about it, man.
Be excited.
I'm excited about what 50 is.
I'm just now getting to 40. Do you read books?
I don't read a lot of books.
joe rogan
Do you listen to books on tape?
kevin hart
I have listened to books.
You know who I listen to?
joe rogan
What?
kevin hart
Tony Robbins.
joe rogan
He's great.
kevin hart
Tony's a...
I like...
I like his approach to giving information.
I like his attitude in general.
I like podcasts.
I like things that are real and that are presented in front of me.
I like information that I can go to the source and touch and talk.
So if I'm reading a book, it's a book that was recommended by such and such and the person that gave it to me.
And after reading that book, I learned more about the individual that I thought I already knew and now I gain more.
Michelle Obama's book.
Great book.
Great fucking book.
I met her.
Talk to her.
I've been in the same rooms.
I've seen her success.
What is her book going to be about?
Go read her book.
Wow.
I get it.
I get why it's moving all the units that it's moving.
I get why women are reading this book and walking away feeling better.
Feeling like they can't.
I get it.
Oh wow.
Certain friends.
Dwayne Wade wrote a book.
Focus on being a father.
His road to becoming a better father.
What he went through with his kid's mother.
How he developed a relationship and a bond with his sons like nobody else.
Wow.
Didn't know that, D. That's dope.
I love how you put it on page.
There's certain things that you just want to know.
Certain books help.
I understand why people read books.
I get what the information does.
The book that I'm working on now is all about the mental approach that you have with life and people not understanding that your biggest enemy is you.
My whole book is about you battling yourself.
People don't understand it's you against you.
The only person that gets in your way is you.
Nobody else.
It's you.
joe rogan
Now when you write a book like this, and especially about something like this, this is like the way you've managed to navigate through life.
Do you write it out in essays?
Do you have like bullet points that you think about?
And then once you have those bullet points in your head, then you write on those?
How do you do it?
kevin hart
I will show you now.
joe rogan
Keep it on your phone?
kevin hart
It's all voice notes and transcripts.
Okay?
So because of your time, You don't have the time to sit and actually write.
So you need somebody that you can talk to for hours.
Hours.
Hours on end.
Hey, hey, I need an hour.
Block an hour for me.
I got some stuff I want to talk to you about.
Kev, what?
What's that?
All right?
Book title ideas, subtitle ideas, my dedications, my introductions.
Within my introductions, these are all powerful paragraphs of things that I've just said that are now transcript.
I get to go back and read it.
Let me see here.
There's no conversation at all.
I'm going to read one of them.
No conversation at all.
And that's what the internet has allowed people to do.
The internet has allowed people to skip steps.
One through 30.
It's allowed people to jump straight to 100.
Fuck you.
Cut a job off.
Take them down.
You should be dead.
Oh, God.
Fucking can't stand this.
Whatever the hate or the anger is.
When I listen and I can change, I'm not that guy.
We're doing these weird things now that people aren't taking the time to sit and think through.
What I've understood is that what people are doing has nothing to do with me.
I should always be a step ahead because I'm thinking differently.
Because I'm thinking about myself.
Making myself better puts me in a position to make others better.
Be the example, not the problem.
The best way to take away the problem is to alienate yourself from it.
These are just thoughts.
It's fucking thoughts.
I can go through and just read it.
joe rogan
So you just have these philosophies.
This is the way you live your life and you just speak it.
kevin hart
That's it.
unidentified
Just speak it.
joe rogan
Damn.
kevin hart
So now this is all transcript.
Look how long this is.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
kevin hart
This is all fucking transcript.
This is all.
So I just go back throughout the day and I read it and I say, this is great.
This makes sense.
This didn't.
Let me reword this.
Let me make sure that it's all flowing together.
And at the end of the day, what's my reason for the book?
My reason for the book is to make people better.
My reason for the book is to make people understand, yo, we all are great.
We all should think that we're great.
There's no reason for you to not think that you're great.
If you don't think you're great, ask yourself why.
Why don't you think the highest of yourself?
When you do, people have no choice but to follow suit.
You got no choice but to follow suit.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of people, they base it on their past.
They base it on the life that they've experienced up until this moment.
kevin hart
Makes you better.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It does make you better.
kevin hart
Makes you better.
Makes you smarter.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin hart
A life with no rocks.
joe rogan
They need to hear a guy like you say it.
kevin hart
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
That's what's interesting about it.
That's what's interesting about life.
You can hear a guy like you say that, and then it changes your perspective, and then you'll go out and take action that you might not have taken before.
unidentified
I got a 585 on my SAT. Confessions.
joe rogan
I didn't even take mine.
Confessions.
kevin hart
They give you 400 for putting your name on the paper.
It's a true story.
Wow.
I guessed.
A-B-A-C-A-D-A. I did abacadabra all the way down.
It's a true story.
Swear to God.
Hand on my mother's grave.
A-B-A-C-A-D-A. All the way down.
I didn't care because it was a class trip that same day.
unidentified
I wanted to go Great Adventure.
kevin hart
I was told that not taking my SAT seriously would prohibit me from furthering myself in life.
That's what I was told.
At the moment, I said, damn, maybe I should have applied myself.
Maybe I should have did different.
When I saw all my friends get their test scores back and they were ecstatic.
800s, 900s, 960s.
Everybody's going to college.
I felt like the biggest idiot in the fucking world.
The biggest idiot in the fucking world.
Because the same people that I went and rushed to go to Great Adventure with...
They had taken an SAT the week before.
They already got their work done.
They did everything they were supposed to do.
So that moment of fun was real fun for them.
I was the only dumbass that didn't prioritize and take care of my shit.
So I'm the only one going to community college.
Everybody else off to Villanova, Temple University, Drexel University.
Goddamn.
I just got left behind.
Why didn't y'all tell me that y'all did it the week before?
How come y'all ain't telling me that we was serious about the college shit?
Y'all ain't telling me y'all was trying to go to Temple or Drexel?
Oh, wait.
It's because my life isn't their life.
They're focused on themselves.
Wow, they're doing what they're supposed to do.
Hey, jackass.
Go sit by yourself and figure it out because this is where you should be.
Lesson learned.
Any opportunity given should be taken serious from this point on.
Because if not, you can find yourself feeling just like this.
So I didn't get down on myself for the fucking moment.
I learned from it.
I learned from it.
Now, if I gotta take a goddamn test, you best believe I'm studying for that fucking test because I don't want the feeling like I'm the guy that didn't prepare.
Now I got a story to tell my kids about what it feels like to be the kid in class that didn't prepare that's got the worst grade when they give all those grades back.
But it's because of my experience.
I don't look down on those moments.
You take those moments, you make the best of them because they're life lessons.
It's that simple.
You're saying it's positive, but it's really just simplicity that's real.
It's real.
joe rogan
It's real and it's your life experience and it's your life's lessons.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
But the fact that a guy like you comes out and talks about it like that, that's where it makes it really powerful because it's not just something that you learn from, but now other people can learn from your past too.
kevin hart
That's what I'm hoping.
joe rogan
And they look at themselves and they realize we all start from a different spot.
kevin hart
You're not the same.
This is why I'm so candid.
I'm so candid.
I'm so open.
There is no...
Guys, I'm fine with being an open book.
I'm fine with the good, the bad, the ugly.
I'm fine being flawed.
I'm fine with all the things that have happened to me that have been exposed.
I'm fine with it all.
I don't hide from it.
I don't run from it.
I don't avoid any of it.
I'm fine.
It's alright.
It's a bed that I made for myself.
I happily lay in it.
And I'll be fine figuring it out.
Moving forward.
Sun don't stop for nobody man.
Sun don't fucking stop.
Sun gonna be up in the morning regardless.
That sun is gonna be up in the morning regardless.
Regardless of how I fucking feel.
And how depressed I am.
The sun is gonna fucking shine in the morning.
And at nighttime, the moon gonna be there.
And you gonna look up, these days gonna keep going by.
So do you let the days go by and look up and you done wasted a year doing what?
Or do you just pick it up?
Alright, well, gotta figure it out, made some mistakes, life goes on.
Let me figure out life from this point.
I'm a life goes on type of guy.
joe rogan
You're a bad motherfucker, Kevin Hart.
Very, very, very inspirational.
And I'm really glad you came down here and talked about it.
kevin hart
I'm more than glad.
I think that it took too long, actually.
And this is the first of what will be many, man.
joe rogan
For sure.
I'm a fan too.
And I just think what you're doing is not just inspirational in terms of what you've been able to achieve and who you are, but also inspirational in how you're so dedicated to helping other people.
That means a lot to me.
It's very motivating.
It's very powerful.
kevin hart
Well, I want all your listeners to know that it's not for talk.
joe rogan
No.
There's no way it could be.
If you were doing that just for talk, I'd be like, listen, just fake it and then become that guy because you're onto something.
If you could do that and just say it and talk, forget about whether it's fake or not.
unidentified
Just do it.
Keep doing it.
joe rogan
You're on!
kevin hart
No, I want you guys, trust me, you will be seeing more.
The financial fitness is real.
This relationship with Chase and us just making sure that you put me in a position to give the information that I have and to the people that really need it.
That's the priority.
I will be sending more kids to college this year.
Shouts out to Tony Robbins, who's Matching my donations.
So, you know, I think I'm going to end up probably having about a good million to 1.5 where we take and we just dedicate that money and we just provide free education.
That's amazing.
UNCF helps me as well.
That's a priority.
Like I said, this health and wellness side.
You'll see more from me.
ViteHustle.com.
You know, get a part of this hustle.
Go get yours.
Irresponsible on Netflix, Jumanji, filming.
We're about to come out with that on Christmas.
There's so much, so much shit going on, man.
joe rogan
Well, listen, if there's ever anything you want promoted, you want people to know about it, I'm your man.
kevin hart
I like this.
I like the conversation.
joe rogan
Thank you, brother.
I really appreciate you.
unidentified
Appreciate you.
joe rogan
Bye, everybody.
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