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July 10, 2018 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1142 - Tony Rock
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joe rogan
01:17:44
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tony rock
43:29
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jamie vernon
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joe rogan
Four, three, two, one.
Boom!
Tony Rock!
jamie vernon
We're live!
joe rogan
That's a bold choice in shirts, sir.
I like that.
tony rock
Thank you!
I think it brings out my skin tone.
joe rogan
It brings out...
It's got a pop to it.
tony rock
Yeah, and I rock it with the shades on, so I'm driving with windows open and girls are looking like, who's that guy?
joe rogan
Yeah, and you're an android guy.
You're a different kind of person.
Android people are different kinds of people.
unidentified
What kind of people am I? Well, the people that think about it.
joe rogan
Like, I don't know about this.
You know?
Everybody's like, I need an iPhone, I need an iPhone.
Android people are like, eh, I'm not so sure.
I think I could rock a Pixel.
tony rock
Yeah, this takes great pictures.
It's very easy to figure out.
So I don't know.
I've never been an iPhone guy.
joe rogan
It's a choice that people make.
They just decide.
It's a non-conformist choice.
tony rock
Did I take the blue pill or the red pill?
unidentified
That's a good question.
joe rogan
I think they're both, look, it's no denying iPhones are badass, but it's no denying those are basically just as badass.
They're just different.
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everything's just different now.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
It's caught up.
tony rock
You go with what you like, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it used to be like if you had a Blackberry and somebody else had an iPhone, you felt like a loser.
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
You felt like a loser with your stupid buttons.
tony rock
Oh, back when people had the phones that you could just zap your number.
joe rogan
Oh, yes!
tony rock
And you didn't have one, you were just ass out.
unidentified
That's right!
joe rogan
Remember?
Everybody had like a little laptop they pulled out.
tony rock
It was like, hey, send me your number.
You would just scan their phone.
joe rogan
What was that thing called again?
A side something or another?
tony rock
What was that called?
joe rogan
What was it called?
jamie vernon
The sidekick, was it?
joe rogan
What was it called?
unidentified
The sidekick?
tony rock
No, that was a Suzuki.
That was the original drug dealer car right there.
You sold weed.
You bought a Suzuki sidekick.
You were the man.
joe rogan
Tony Rock, I'm so happy that you agreed that the fanny pack is back.
tony rock
The fanny pack is back.
joe rogan
It is, right?
tony rock
The fanny pack is back.
It's a more stylish fanny pack now.
People are wearing it over the shoulder.
joe rogan
That's a coward's way out.
That's a coward's way out.
tony rock
You still want it on the stomach.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You rock it right in front of you.
That's where it's most convenient.
Listen, boys, you don't have to be trying to get laid all the time.
Relax.
tony rock
You want soccer dad look.
joe rogan
You just want the convenience of having that bag right there.
Why can't I? Leather?
I don't want to have to carry shit.
tony rock
You want leather?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
tony rock
You want a name like Fendi or Gucci?
joe rogan
No, I don't need that.
I got this right here, bro.
tony rock
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
That's nice, right?
tony rock
Yeah, that's very naked and afraid-ish.
joe rogan
You can keep this shit on you.
Doesn't feel uncomfortable.
You got your keys.
You got your phone.
You don't think about shit.
tony rock
I got keys, phone, wallet in my pocket.
I'm good.
joe rogan
People are tired of hearing about this.
But I'm telling you, it's the way to go.
tony rock
The fanny pack is back.
joe rogan
I got one that I wear when I run.
tony rock
Oh, so you have more than one.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got a neoprene one.
tony rock
You have the running fanny pack?
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, it's nice.
You slip your phone in there, get your little headsets on.
You can cheat with your music.
Jamie, I've been cheating.
I cheat when I run now.
I listen to music.
It's better.
You guys were alright.
tony rock
How's that cheating?
joe rogan
I used to say that if you ran, running, especially running hills, is difficult.
So you should do it with no music.
You should be motivated.
Just zone out.
Just fucking do the work.
But then I did it a couple times with music.
I'm like, this is way better.
tony rock
Yeah.
I think you're supposed to run.
You're supposed to hear a little something to get you going.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's way better.
It's way better.
tony rock
Treadmill.
Get on the treadmill, just music, go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You just gotta hear shit.
As long as it's not too loud.
The thing about running in the mountains is like, what if someone's screaming for help?
And, you know, you're running by, it's the Eye of the Tigers!
tony rock
If they're already in the mountains and they need help, there's nothing you can do already.
joe rogan
What if it's Laurel Canyon?
You know, what if you're just running up the canyon?
To be a good person, you should be aware.
tony rock
They need help.
They need you to help them take an Instagram picture.
joe rogan
Probably.
tony rock
If they're in Laurel Canyon.
joe rogan
Right.
tony rock
Half of the people there are just like, I want to get a good shot.
joe rogan
I know.
How many people hike just to get a good shot at the top?
It's a good Instagram photo.
A lot.
You can get a lot of likes.
tony rock
Yeah.
That's what they go for.
They go for the likes.
joe rogan
It's some sort of commodity.
It seems to be, right?
tony rock
If you're a girl with a nice body, a bunch of likes, seems to translate into hosting parties for some reason.
joe rogan
Ooh, yeah, that's right.
You only have to have a certain amount.
tony rock
Yeah, you go to a club and it's hosted tonight by...
Who the fuck is this girl?
joe rogan
Well, it's the minimalist approach, right?
It's like, not only is it not...
She doesn't display a talent, but you also don't even hear her talk.
You just see the pictures, but just that enough...
tony rock
It takes less and less and less and less to be a celebrity these days.
joe rogan
That's a strange one though, isn't it?
tony rock
To be considered a celebrity.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's one of the weirder ones.
One of the weirder ones is getting down to just being famous for photographs.
tony rock
Yeah.
They call them Instagram models.
So there's an Instagram modeling agency?
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
Am I a hater for saying that?
Because I like to look at them.
So why would I be upset ever at someone who's making something that I like to look at?
Right?
tony rock
There you go.
I'm not mad at all.
joe rogan
Isn't that weird?
unidentified
That people would be like, fuck these Instagram hoes, they're big asses.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
But don't you want to see those pictures?
tony rock
I'd love to see the pictures.
We're all hypocrites.
Those are the guys that they're not fucking that are saying that.
joe rogan
We're all hypocrites.
That's just nature, right?
tony rock
It's the way of the world.
The way of the land.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is, right?
And Instagram's just such a fascinating thing that people can...
Just show you little images of their world.
Hey, this is me at the grocery store with my dog.
tony rock
And make their world look way more interesting than it really is.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
tony rock
Really more interesting.
joe rogan
You cultivate it.
tony rock
You know?
Make it look like they're really vacationing all the time and they have all these clothes and they go to the best parties and you meet them and they live in Studio City with four roommates in a studio apartment.
joe rogan
Yeah, we all want everybody to think that we're doing better than we are, right?
Why is that?
What's that about?
tony rock
I don't know.
Because if people think you're doing better, then it makes you feel better because they treat you like you're doing.
They treat you like you're at the level that you're fictitiously portraying.
joe rogan
Right.
Right.
You know what I mean?
tony rock
So you get better treatment based on a life you don't really live.
joe rogan
Right.
So if you become insta-famous, what do you get out of that?
You can make a living off of that.
Yeah.
tony rock
I see comics doing it all the time.
Yeah, there's a...
joe rogan
Kyle Dunnigan.
Dude, Kyle Dunnigan blew up because of those little videos that he puts up on his...
You ever see those?
tony rock
No.
joe rogan
Fucking hilarious.
tony rock
Kyle's my man too.
I've known Kyle for years.
joe rogan
Kyle does face swaps with Kim Kardashian and Donald Trump.
You've never seen it?
tony rock
No, no.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Please go back to the one where Bruce is telling them he's pregnant.
See if you can find that one.
Dude, he's genius.
tony rock
Really?
I've known Kyle for so long.
joe rogan
Dude, it is the funniest page on the internet.
I'm not bullshit.
Kyle Donegan's Instagram page is the funniest page on the internet.
tony rock
Okay, that's saying a lot.
joe rogan
Dude, I swear to God, I cry.
tony rock
Because I have yet to see a really...
Well, I've seen a few, but then they kind of just fizzle out.
joe rogan
I cry.
Show them the one with Kim Kardashian and the washing machine.
The dishwasher.
Or the clothes washing machine.
The one where she's lost in the house?
Dude.
Here it goes.
The buildup.
unidentified
I have an emergency.
tony rock
Where is it at?
unidentified
What is it, Cam?
I'm lost in my house.
Oh, shit.
Look at your surroundings.
What do you see?
jamie vernon
There's this white box.
unidentified
What is that white box?
I don't know.
I put north inside so we see.
Oh, you're such a great mom.
Yeah.
Thank you.
All right, let me get Kanye on the phone.
He's a genius.
Yeah, call Kanye.
Hello?
Hey, Kanye, Kim's lost again.
Do you know what that white box is behind her?
It looks like I've got two dates.
You don't know my girl's lost in space.
Bam!
But I didn't get into a rocket.
Crap, it's a genius at work.
Yeah, Kim, shut the fuck up.
Don't interrupt me, genius.
Now program R2-D2. He'll save you from outer space.
You're my army girl.
Yeah, that's a fat beat kind of guy.
Cheers, oh, Spain.
Dude, this shit is so silly.
joe rogan
He's so silly.
tony rock
He's talking to Donald Trump?
joe rogan
Dude, he's got a shitload of them, man.
You gotta go to his page.
I gotta follow him.
There's nothing like a regular person on his page.
There's nothing like, here's me at the movies.
tony rock
There's no pictures of his food.
joe rogan
Oh, look at the sunset.
No, there's none of that shit.
His page is basically like a channel.
Oh shit, he's got 304,000 views.
He deserves it.
tony rock
Shout out Kyle Dunnigan, man.
joe rogan
He deserves it.
I'm telling you.
This is the funniest page on the internet.
tony rock
I gotta follow it.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it kills me.
It's such an interesting...
tony rock
Some people use it right.
Some people use Instagram correctly.
joe rogan
Oh, he's nailing it.
But more importantly, this is like a new thing.
Like, he's able to put his...
Like, use his mouth and use other people's faces for the first time.
Like, when has anybody ever been able to do that without some great giant studio behind you?
The fact that he can do all this shit on his phone...
tony rock
Impressive.
This is a new feature.
You can do it on your phone.
You can download that.
joe rogan
No, no.
I know you can do it, but I'm saying that now it opens up this whole new kind of comedy.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's a new kind of comedy.
tony rock
I love it.
joe rogan
I mean, we know he's not those people, but he's doing those people.
It's like an ultra hilarious impression.
tony rock
It's his own SNL on his phone.
joe rogan
You got to see him do Bill Maher.
Find the Bill Maher one.
His Bill Maher one is fucking genius.
He sounds exactly like Bill Maher.
And then he's got Bill Maher's face.
Shit is so funny, man.
He's so good.
This is just like a new thing.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
People get this new opportunity to do shit on.
You know, the internet is so interesting in that way.
Just some new thing opens up and some comic goes, oh, look at this.
tony rock
MySpace was that, Twitter was that, Facebook was that.
joe rogan
Well, I had seen people do little things.
Here it is.
Look at this.
unidentified
Okay.
Hey diddle diddle, the cat in the fiddle, the cow jumped over the moon.
Oh really?
tony rock
A cow jumped over the moon?
unidentified
It took NASA astronauts going 17,000 miles an hour a week to get to the moon.
This is bullshit.
A cow couldn't jump over one of you stupid idiots during nappy time, okay?
tony rock
Oh, you're crying now?
unidentified
I'm on page two.
Buckle up, assholes.
joe rogan
Good impression.
Come on, man.
That impression is fucking genius.
tony rock
Oh, that was great.
unidentified
That was great.
joe rogan
He's so good, dude.
tony rock
That was great.
joe rogan
And it's the face swap thing makes it a hundred times better.
Like, that shit would be funny on its own, but with him doing that face swap, it's just a different thing.
tony rock
I have to follow Kyle.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're following him right now, live on the podcast, ladies and gentlemen.
He's following Kyle Dunnigan.
tony rock
Kyle Dunnigan won.
joe rogan
Tony Rock, I think you are one of the comics in this world that does not get the credit that you deserve.
You are one of those guys.
tony rock
I thank you and I agree.
joe rogan
I think you're one of the funniest guys alive.
tony rock
I really do.
I thank you and I agree.
joe rogan
I watched you do a set, I guess it was last month.
How long ago was the last time?
tony rock
We did Tripoli's show at the store, right?
joe rogan
How long ago was that?
tony rock
About two months, maybe.
joe rogan
Something like that.
Dude, you're funny as fuck.
tony rock
Thank you, man.
joe rogan
You're funny as fuck.
It's fun to watch.
You got a lot of energy, too, man.
You're powerful.
tony rock
Thank you, brother.
joe rogan
That was a thing like a couple guys after your set were like, woo!
tony rock
That was some heavy hitters on that one that night.
joe rogan
That was a fun show.
tony rock
I forgot.
Was Billy on that one?
Was Bill Burr on that one?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
I mean, he's been on a bunch of them.
Tripoli throws some amazing shows at the store.
tony rock
We did Montreal New Faces together.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
tony rock
Every time I see Trip, I'm like, hey, you know we're linked forever, man.
We did New Faces together.
joe rogan
Wow.
New Faces.
Dude, I remember those days.
tony rock
Days of Hope.
Me, Trip, Corey Holcomb.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Corey Holcomb.
tony rock
Mike Young.
All, same year.
It was a great class.
joe rogan
Joey Diaz speaks very highly of Corey Holcomb.
tony rock
Corey Holcomb was super funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, Joey.
Joey Diaz I love.
tony rock
Joey Diaz I will always love because Joey Diaz shot the movie...
Longish Yard?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
With my brother.
And he says, he sees me at the comedy store, hey man, day one.
You know, I don't waste no time.
I see your brother day one.
I'm like, why the fuck is your brother not in this movie?
He can throw a fucking football.
He can run faster than you.
And I'm like, Joey Diaz, I will love you forever, man.
I fucking love you.
This is bullshit.
joe rogan
Joey Diaz does not play games.
There will be no injustices around Joey Diaz.
tony rock
He's a skinny guy.
Go eat a sandwich.
joe rogan
He gets so mad about shit.
Whenever I'm around him, sometimes we get too high and I just don't want to get him mad about anything.
I never know what to say, what not to say.
You could mention the wrong band or the wrong food or the wrong clothes.
tony rock
He's gone.
joe rogan
And you're just getting a beat down.
tony rock
If you flip the switch, he just explodes.
joe rogan
You gotta know days when he's actually dangerous.
You've got to catch him after jiu-jitsu.
Joey does jiu-jitsu.
tony rock
Wow.
joe rogan
All the time, man.
tony rock
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's lost a ton of weight, too.
Joey's down, I think, I've got to say more than 50 pounds.
tony rock
Oh, I haven't seen him in a while.
I've got to see him.
joe rogan
I want to know how much he's lost.
He's lost quite a bit of weight.
And he's going to jiu-jitsu on a regular basis.
Yeah, he gets into it.
He's doing Muay Thai now, too.
He's doing kickboxing classes.
tony rock
Joey Diaz is doing kickboxing.
joe rogan
Joey Diaz gets down.
tony rock
And I didn't want to make it seem like it was so shocking.
joe rogan
It's shocking to everybody.
We know.
He used to be a lot bigger, man.
But he's become much more disciplined.
He's really disciplined in his diet.
tony rock
No woman in his life?
joe rogan
No.
tony rock
Health scare?
joe rogan
No, he had a kid.
He had a kid a few years back, and that started the shift.
tony rock
That'll do it.
joe rogan
And then he's just been...
He's also just been more aware, you know, as you get older.
Like, you really do have to take care of your body, or it's gonna fail.
And it might fail even if you take care of it.
You know, it's just like, you're hedging your bets.
At least you're making it stronger.
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
You know, it's just...
You've got to watch all the warning signs.
Obviously, a lot of excess weight is a giant warning sign.
tony rock
Especially for comics.
It's like we just don't sleep.
There's a lot of drinking.
There's late nights.
And there's the travel and the stress is...
joe rogan
Dude, as you get older too, that don't sleep and shit just does not fly.
Your body's like, fuck you, man.
We'll get sick.
tony rock
Your body's like, I'm going to sleep.
You can do whatever you want.
I'm fucking turning off.
joe rogan
I will give you a cold and then you'll have to lie down, you fuck.
unidentified
I'll give you a fucking three-day migraine.
joe rogan
It's a weird thing, right?
That balance that you have to have.
Like the moment someone figures out something that you could do where you don't ever need sleep, we're going to have a weird world.
tony rock
It's coming.
It's coming.
joe rogan
You think?
tony rock
Some kind of pill or something will come in.
joe rogan
Probably, right?
I mean, if they have pills that make you go to sleep.
Why wouldn't they have pills?
They just figure out, oh well this just counteracts all the biochemical responses that your brain creates when it needs sleep.
tony rock
This way you can go through your whole day.
joe rogan
In the meantime, we've actually found through independent studies that it improves your recovery.
You actually live better.
Chris Ryan just posted some shit yesterday that I retweeted about how doctors and scientists were encouraging women to breastfeed And they were going to do it nationally, but it got side swiped by the formula industry.
It's terribly disturbing shit.
tony rock
I believe that 100% because there's always the other side where we're going to not make money if this thing gets through.
joe rogan
But that one right there, that is terrible.
That's a terrible one.
It is.
You're deciding to give babies less nutrition.
You're making a decision for profit over baby's nutrition.
You're lying to moms.
tony rock
It's like big tobacco.
Big tobacco is...
joe rogan
Yeah, but at least big tobacco isn't targeting babies.
And I know there's no supporting big tobacco.
How many people have died from fucking cigarettes?
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
Imagine if that was from something else, from any other product, like Diet Coke.
We have Diet Coke just killing people left and right.
Which it is.
Do you think it is?
tony rock
Of course!
joe rogan
I'm not sure about that.
I'm not sure.
tony rock
It's not killing people like cigarettes, but...
joe rogan
I think it's not good for you.
But as far as anyone ever get, like, cigaretted out from Diet Cokes...
tony rock
Yeah, nobody's doing commercials with the thing and the next thing I drank too much Diet Coke, but...
joe rogan
But if you...
I guess if you drink it all day...
unidentified
So it's not good for you.
joe rogan
No, and all the chemicals in it...
All the different things and all that caffeine, if you drank them, nothing but Diet Cokes all day, like 15, 20 a day.
tony rock
Didn't you see, it was like a YouTube video where they put stuff in Coca-Cola and left it for days and how the Coke just destroys it.
They put like a brick in a Coca-Cola and it just dissolves the brick.
Cinder blocks would just crash it.
Yeah, I used to drink Mountain Dew like it was no tomorrow.
joe rogan
If you got a fat, juicy cheeseburger and a Dr. Pepper, a cold Dr. Pepper on ice, oh my goodness.
It tastes so good.
Why is it that things that taste good are so bad for you?
tony rock
Most things that are bad for you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Most things are just...
joe rogan
But that's like so many things in life.
tony rock
That's how they get you.
That's how they get you.
joe rogan
That's how life gets you.
tony rock
A Snickers is delicious.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Way too much sugar.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How much will you indulge that part of your brain?
How much will you let that part of your brain ruin your life?
tony rock
That's the thing.
You have to control that part of your brain.
Self-discipline.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
But goddamn, man, if you're in front of an ice cream sundae, and you're just looking at that thing, you're like, aww.
tony rock
That's the saying right there, self-discipline, but goddamn.
joe rogan
It's the hardest thing in the world.
If it's in front of me, eight times out of town, I just go, fuck it.
I just do good most of the time.
tony rock
We're talking food or just bad stuff in general?
joe rogan
Mostly.
tony rock
Bad stuff that's good for you.
joe rogan
Delicious food.
If I'm holding strong on my diet and someone pushes some lasagna in front of me, I'm like, oh my god, look at that.
tony rock
Yeah, I try to do no dairy until I get off a plane in New York City, and I'm like, there's no way I'm not having a whole pizza from Fulton Street.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you count pizza as dairy because of the dough?
tony rock
Yeah, or the cheese.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, that's right, the cheese.
Yeah, dairy's a weird one of the people, right?
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
They say that if you eat that raw cheese, that your body has a much easier time digesting it.
tony rock
Raw cheese?
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
They have raw milk cheese.
The cheese that's made with raw milk as opposed to cheese that's made with homogenized and pasteurized milk.
I had this friend who was a surgeon from France.
Really smart guy.
He was explaining this to me once.
He had to smuggle cheese over from Europe to America and they were terrified they were going to get caught.
This guy's a cancer surgeon.
unidentified
Wow.
tony rock
Because the cheese is just so much pure.
joe rogan
Yeah, because it's illegal to have over here.
tony rock
Because they want you to have the bad stuff here.
joe rogan
Well, they want it to be safe.
See, there's no bad guy here.
It's kind of like a double bad guy.
Because what they're trying to do is prevent diseases.
They want milk to be able to stay on the shelf.
All of our surplus and all this stuff that we have in terms of grain and food, if we didn't have it and something went wrong, it would be kind of sketchy.
And that's what happened somewhere around World War II. That's why we created all this stuff in the first place.
That's where things started getting really weird in terms of stacking things up and surpluses.
But milk can't stay raw on a shelf very long, man.
You would lose so much money.
Because things get transported, and if it's milk, it's got to be local, it's got to be pretty fresh.
But damn, if you can get it, if you can get it from a real good Whole Foods market or one of those sprouts sometimes has raw milk, it tastes better.
tony rock
Well, Whole Foods now has stuff that's just as normal as Ralph's.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
tony rock
It's like Whole Foods, the myth has been exposed.
joe rogan
Well, the other places like Ralph's and Vaughn's, they're becoming more diverse with their food choices.
tony rock
Right, they're trying to compete with whole foods.
joe rogan
They're putting grass-fed meat in there and stuff like that, and organic vegetables.
Yeah, they're all...
Because that's...
The other ones...
What is it else?
It's like weird granola.
You know what I mean?
There's like a weird granola aisle.
Like, who's buying this shit?
Weird quinoa section.
This is an empty section, man.
I like quinoa.
unidentified
It's tumbleweeds.
tony rock
I tried quinoa for the first time a couple of months ago.
joe rogan
It's a very good grain.
tony rock
I tried kale for the first time.
joe rogan
What?
You never had kale?
tony rock
No, I hadn't.
joe rogan
Dude.
tony rock
I'm trying to eat healthy.
joe rogan
I'll make you a kale shake.
You'll freak out.
You'll feel like you're on drugs.
tony rock
Really?
joe rogan
Oh man, it just gets you so fired up.
So much nutrients just getting jolted into your system.
tony rock
We gotta try this.
joe rogan
Use kale, a giant thumb-sized chunk of ginger, four garlic cloves, a pear, and celery.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
Yes!
tony rock
And run through the wall.
joe rogan
Dude, when you're drinking this stuff, your whole body's going, what in the fuck is all this?
Because it's blended down.
You don't even have to chew it to absorb it, right?
It's just going right in there and getting broken down.
You feel great.
But then, you better be closed to a bathroom, son.
tony rock
I was about to say that.
Yeah, we feel great, but how does the toilet feel?
joe rogan
It's cleaning you out.
tony rock
Quickly.
joe rogan
Like a fucking tsunami, son.
It's coming at your butthole door.
And when it goes, especially if you put...
Oh, that's the other thing I forgot to add.
You need either coconut oil or MCT oil.
tony rock
What's MCT oil?
joe rogan
Medium-chain triglyceride oil.
It's essentially an aspect of coconut oil that they extract.
It's just a really strong, healthy oil.
A lot of people put it in coffee and stuff and different things, but it's a good dietary aid.
But you have to put it in there because apparently...
At least as it's been explained to me, the nutrients absorb in the body better if there's fat mixed in with them.
So that healthy MCT oil or coconut oil, when you put all that stuff in there, then it allows your body to process those nutrients better.
But dude, you better be close.
I mean, like a sprint away.
tony rock
So this is a cleansing shake.
This is a cleanse.
joe rogan
It just tastes good.
The key is don't put too much MCT oil.
That's the key.
That seems to be the difference between making it to the bathroom, And having a dreadful result.
tony rock
And calling for help from Laurel Canyon.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude.
You might have to call for help.
Do you eat healthy?
tony rock
I try.
I try.
You know, I have the vegan friends and I have the friends that, you know, like to cook and eat and the foodies, so I'm trying to walk the fine line.
joe rogan
It's hard when you're on the road, right?
tony rock
It is very hard to eat healthy on the road.
I go to Whole Foods.
I try to get some soup and some chips or whatever for the room, but at 10 at night, it shows up at midnight.
I hang around and take pictures with the people, and now it's 1 o'clock, and I'm starving, and there's nothing open that I can get a healthy meal from.
joe rogan
Yeah, I always bring protein bars everywhere I go.
I bring almonds and protein bars.
Those are two good things to bring.
tony rock
I should start doing that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like it's an easy thing like if you just use it just try to get some nutrition Just to fill your stomach.
You're hungry.
Just so I'm not hungry anymore.
Almonds are great because just a couple handfuls of- Well, I'm allergic to almonds.
tony rock
I can't do almonds.
joe rogan
Well, don't listen to me then.
tony rock
I'm allergic to almonds.
unidentified
I'll be fucked.
Damn.
joe rogan
How'd you get allergic to almonds?
tony rock
I don't know.
I'm allergic to almonds, pecans, I believe walnuts, but not peanuts because peanuts is not a nut.
joe rogan
Really?
tony rock
Peanut grows on the ground.
Almonds, pecans grow on trees.
unidentified
So something weird there where- Whoa, peanuts grow on the ground.
joe rogan
I did not know that.
Did you know that?
tony rock
A peanut is not a nut.
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
Jamie didn't know it either.
tony rock
I can eat peanuts all day.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
All my life, I've never thought about a peanut tree.
Like, what the fuck does a peanut tree look like?
I've never thought about that once.
Even though Jimmy Carter, I remember, was a peanut farmer in Georgia.
That was like a big thing.
tony rock
Oh, that was his brother.
Wasn't that his brother?
joe rogan
No, he was a peanut farmer.
tony rock
Oh.
joe rogan
Jimmy Carter was.
He was his family.
tony rock
I could eat peanuts all day.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
But I never knew what a fucking peanut looked like, like in the ground.
I have no idea.
I thought it was a tree.
tony rock
Yeah, no.
joe rogan
But even, I never even, like, I could see an orange, if you said, picture an orange tree, I could see it.
Picture a peanut tree.
What the fuck?
What does that thing look like?
Meanwhile, I've had way more peanuts than I've had oranges.
tony rock
A tree full of squirrels.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony rock
That's what it would look like.
joe rogan
Right.
You always pictured squirrels with peanuts.
tony rock
See, look.
joe rogan
That's what it looks like?
So they pulled that out of the ground.
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa.
So that's crazy.
tony rock
Yeah, it kind of grows like that on top of the ground right there.
Yeah, that picture.
joe rogan
Wow.
It grows on top of the ground.
unidentified
You just go and pick them.
tony rock
Yeah, you go.
I remember picking them with my grandmother back in South Carolina back in the day.
joe rogan
It really is a trip.
Some food, some of these plants are incredibly nutritious to your body, and some of these plants will kill the fuck out of you instantly.
And nature made people figure it out.
You'd have figured it out by trial and error.
tony rock
Trial and error, yes.
joe rogan
Can you imagine what it was like?
tony rock
The blowfish.
That guy.
That first guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Hey, it's a fish.
Can we eat fish?
Bang.
joe rogan
Gone.
Dead.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How about those assholes that still decide to make sushi out of it?
tony rock
If you cut it an inch to the left or an inch to the right, you're dead.
Like, why not just not eat it?
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
tony rock
Why not just skip that one?
That probably doesn't make it taste better.
joe rogan
You got those chopsticks and you're bringing it up to your lips.
You're like, did this guy fuck up?
Maybe this guy's getting old.
Maybe his vision's going bad.
He doesn't want to say anything because he wants to keep his job.
I don't know this fucking guy.
What kind of rush?
tony rock
Just take a bite and wait.
joe rogan
Yeah, like Blowfish Sushi.
That's like the wingsuit of sushi.
You know?
Those crazy people that jump, like my friend Andy Stumpf.
They jump off cliffs and shit with those wingsuits.
That's what that is for sushi eaters.
tony rock
I saw a guy go through it.
It was a guy that went through a cliff.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I saw that.
tony rock
And it was like, if he misses, he's dead instantly.
unidentified
Dead.
joe rogan
Dead.
There's a lot of videos of those guys dying.
There was a video of a guy hitting a bridge.
Going like 100 plus miles an hour, hit this bridge.
It was awful.
I mean, fucking awful.
tony rock
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Bungee jumping all that stuff.
You know, Will Smith is bungee jumping.
unidentified
What?
tony rock
Did you see this video?
Will Smith, he posted a video on his Instagram, another guy that has a great Instagram, posted a video about how fear, no, amazing things are right on the other side of fear.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
So he's been doing this thing where he's just conquering all his fears and he has a group of guys that are professional bungee jumpers.
They're bungee jumping on his birthday, his 50th birthday, out of a helicopter over the Grand Canyon.
unidentified
Jesus.
tony rock
Yeah.
This I gotta see.
joe rogan
That seems like a terrible idea.
We did a bunch of that kind of shit on Fear Factor, man.
We did it in the last season.
In the last season, we did a couple of them that really had me freaked out, but one of them They hook people up to these bungee cords.
And they had them tied to like a post or something?
Or a tree or something?
I forget what it was.
They were shackled.
I think it was a post.
And the person had to release them.
Figure out which key goes into which lock.
And it was like a race to do it.
And as soon as you released them, they shot through the air.
Because there was a helicopter holding onto a bungee cord behind them.
tony rock
Wow!
joe rogan
And then they were just dangling over this canyon.
Like bouncing up and down.
And I watched the first one.
They did a test one.
And I watched it and I was like, yeah, I mean, they know what they're doing.
I guess they know what they're doing.
These guys are like professional stunt guys.
But I was like, I would not want to be that person attached to that bungee cord.
tony rock
Who was the person that came up with these things?
Like, I would watch the show.
I didn't mind the dangerous stuff like that.
Just the eating.
Like, every time I'm like, how did you know you could eat that?
joe rogan
Yeah, they had a whole team of people.
tony rock
How do you know that won't kill you?
joe rogan
No, they would do toxicology examinations on certain bugs.
They'd grind them up and find out what's bad for you, what's not.
tony rock
Yeah, who's that guy?
joe rogan
A lot of those people that ate food, man, that they shouldn't have had to eat.
They would do it with interns.
Poor interns.
Nice kids, too.
tony rock
Scarred for life.
joe rogan
Well, they were working on production.
Not interns.
I'm sorry.
They were PAs, production assistants.
And they would have to do these really fucking difficult eating challenges.
If they did it, they'd win a certain amount of money.
They'd get a certain amount of money.
I would always give them whatever I had in my pocket, too.
tony rock
They won't eat anything other than a peanut butter and jelly sandwich now.
unidentified
Oh, those poor kids.
joe rogan
Some of it was ridiculous.
There's some things you just can't eat.
You just can't chew it down enough.
tony rock
Right.
The smell, you'd be like...
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
It's coming up.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that didn't scare me.
What scares me is the bungee cords under the helicopters type shit.
That was like...
How do you know that that's gonna work out right every time?
tony rock
I don't know.
I'd take the bungee cord over the helicopter before bull nuts and all that stuff.
No.
joe rogan
Really?
tony rock
Yes, man.
joe rogan
Dude, bull nuts are just meat.
You just eat it.
That's one of the easiest ones.
Bull nuts would be super easy.
People love those things.
They call them Rocky Mountain oysters.
tony rock
I've heard that.
I've seen one of those cooking shows, and they fry them hard.
They look like fried pork rinds, and people are just going to town.
joe rogan
Oh, is that what they do with them?
It looks like pork rinds, really?
tony rock
Yeah, they slice it and fry it up hard.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
I hadn't seen that.
I'd seen sautéed, and I'd seen where they breaded them.
tony rock
Breaded bull nuts.
joe rogan
Breaded them and fried them.
Yeah, apparently people love them.
There they are.
They chopped those up.
Rocky Mountain Oysters.
tony rock
Looks like fried cauliflower.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Man's dominion over animals.
tony rock
Now imagine the person who tells you that's cauliflower, you eat it, or they say it's calamari, you eat it, and then your friend's like, nah, I'm kidding, it was bull nuts.
joe rogan
See, it really bothers you that it's bull nuts.
tony rock
Yeah, kinda.
joe rogan
Doesn't bother me at all.
I think if you're gonna eat the whole animal, you might as well eat his balls, too.
Just out of respect.
I mean, you know, the whole thing about castrating them is strange too.
They only castrate them because they want them to be, that's how you get a steer, right?
Like when they make a steak.
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
You get it out of a steer.
That means it doesn't breed.
It's like a bull that they snipped.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's kind of crazy.
That's kind of crazy.
tony rock
Sad.
joe rogan
That's just how they do it.
tony rock
Sad for the bull.
joe rogan
Sad life.
tony rock
Unfortunate.
Unfortunate.
joe rogan
So, like, they must do that with grass-fed beef, too, right?
Probably, yeah.
tony rock
What's the one they put in the box?
Wait, it's veal, right?
They put it in the box?
unidentified
Yeah, if that doesn't bother you...
joe rogan
What kind of person are you?
What are you doing?
tony rock
They put the calf, right?
Is that what it is?
They put the calf in a box so he can't grow?
joe rogan
Yeah, and they keep him in the dark.
tony rock
And that keeps the meat tender or something like that?
Now, who's the person that came up with that one?
joe rogan
That guy was an asshole.
That guy was an asshole.
tony rock
We just put it in a dark box for years and then the meat will be...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing that I found from eating wild meat specifically, and I know that everybody can't eat wild meat.
I'm very aware of that argument.
But none of those animals are like that.
They're living this buck wild nature life.
They're out there in the woods with predators, and they're surviving for years in the mountains.
There's mountain lions out there and bears out there, and these fucking things have figured out a way to get away from them and survive.
They're wired and alive.
And if you eat one of those, it's just a different thing than eating these prisoners, you know?
We're eating prisoners!
tony rock
That's bad too, to be out in the wild living your life, you're an elk, and then a human walks into this forum that doesn't belong, he's the outsider, and blows your fucking head off.
joe rogan
True, unless you like to eat elk, then it's awesome.
That's exactly what you were looking for.
We could decide all day whose land is whose land.
It's their land.
This is where the elk live.
This is their home.
They will walk right through your fucking living room and stomp your kid to death, okay?
Don't get it twisted.
tony rock
I don't think an elk was coming to my living room.
joe rogan
But if they wanted to, they're not respecting our property because they love us.
We have a mutual agreement.
They're not really dangerous, but moose are.
Moose will fuck you up.
tony rock
I've heard moose are gigantic.
joe rogan
If you find a moose in your backyard, get the fuck back in your house.
Because a moose might fuck you up.
Oh yeah.
Especially if you come near a mama.
It's a mama in her calves.
tony rock
I've never seen a moose live.
The fuck away.
joe rogan
They're so big, dude.
They don't even look real.
When you see them, they're so big.
They're so big.
They're like 20 deer.
tony rock
Damn!
joe rogan
Really?
tony rock
Moose are like, what, North America?
Canada?
joe rogan
Yeah, like probably North.
tony rock
There's no moose in like North Carolina.
joe rogan
There's moose in Colorado.
There's moose in Canada.
There's a lot of moose in certain parts of Canada.
tony rock
They eat them?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, yeah.
There's moose in Alaska.
Oh yeah, moose is delicious.
But dude, they're so big.
You can't believe how big they are when you see them.
tony rock
You've eaten moose before?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've eaten moose before.
Yeah, it's really good.
It's delicious.
tony rock
You eat a lot of stuff, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But I just...
I don't know.
I like it.
It's better for you.
But the whole point was this whole veal thing.
Like, you know, I don't want that.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, that is not...
Like, that's not...
You don't have to eat that.
Like, why do you even want it that tender?
Like, what are you doing?
Does it hurt when you chew?
What the fuck are you doing?
Like, I don't get it, man.
Are you scared of chewing?
I just want good tasting food.
tony rock
Can we make this any softer?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Isn't that weird?
It's like, oh, it's so tender.
We're so lazy.
We don't even want to work out when we eat.
We're like, oh, it's so tender.
tony rock
It falls off the bone.
It just melts in your mouth.
joe rogan
Chew it, you lazy asshole.
tony rock
Just take the fuck and get it off the bone.
joe rogan
Just chew it, you fuck.
unidentified
No, no, I'd rather keep this little baby cow hostage all hog-tied.
joe rogan
Dude.
tony rock
It's horrible.
joe rogan
It is horrible.
That's one of the more horrible things about farming, right?
I guess they have free-range veal, too, which is basically just a calf.
tony rock
What is free-range?
Free-range is still in prison and on a farm.
Free-range chickens, they can't come and go.
joe rogan
They're still on a farm.
That's true.
But free-range chickens are the exception.
Because free-range chickens, they don't get anywhere.
If you have a chicken house, and you have a yard, you don't ever have to fence the chickens in.
The only reason why you fence the chickens in is protecting them from other things.
They go right in their chicken house at night.
I have chickens, we leave the door open.
At the end of the day, they just go in their little chicken coop and climb up into their seats.
They know what to do.
That's their house.
They live there.
They have some weird relationship with me.
They know I bring food.
So when I come around, they get excited and they follow me around.
But they know where they live.
They're not prisoners.
They want to be there.
tony rock
You have free-range chickens.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're free-range in the sense that I let them out all the time.
But the thing about it is they're not going to go to another state.
That's not what chickens do.
Chickens hang around.
tony rock
They hang around where they're going to be fed at because they're wild animals.
joe rogan
Well, no, they eat all over the yard.
tony rock
We get fed here.
This guy comes out and throws grain on the ground twice a day, so we're gonna stay here.
joe rogan
Well, it's not even that.
When you let them out, they go looking for bugs.
That's all they're doing.
They wander around the yard.
They fuck every bug up.
Every bug's dead.
Every mouse dead.
Anything that's in there.
unidentified
Chickens eat mice?
joe rogan
Oh, they eat the fuck out of mice.
tony rock
Chickens eat mice.
joe rogan
Jamie, I think we need to play an off-played clip for Mr. Rock.
Yeah, dude.
I didn't know either until I got them.
They eat mice.
They chase mice down in a ferocious manner.
To the point where cats...
Please pull this up.
There's a fantastic video of a cat playing with a mouse, and a chicken comes over and shows them how the fuck it's done.
So here's one where they're going to put a mouse, and this chicken's going to grab it from this dude.
That's not as impressive, Jamie.
Give me the one where the...
Give me the one with a cat.
The chicken steals the mouse from the cat.
tony rock
It says, do chicken eat mice?
unidentified
People have these questions.
joe rogan
We had a mouse get into the chicken coop once, just randomly.
This is it.
Watch this.
Look at this cat.
The cat's thinking about getting the mouse, and the chicken's like, bitch, give me that.
Look at this.
Did you fucking know?
tony rock
Wow.
joe rogan
Ferocious, dude.
Just consuming it.
See, cats kill things.
tony rock
And the cat didn't even try to get it.
The cat was like, you got it.
joe rogan
He was gonna.
He was taking his time.
He was having a good old time.
tony rock
No, he didn't try to get it from the chicken.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
The chicken got it.
tony rock
Okay, you got it, man.
joe rogan
No, chickens are too crazy.
tony rock
Wow.
Okay.
Learn something new every day.
Chicken eat nice.
joe rogan
Wild little fuckers.
So they just go around my yard, jacking everything that moves.
tony rock
How many chickens you got?
joe rogan
Thirteen.
tony rock
Damn.
unidentified
I lost a bunch of them.
tony rock
You got a rooster?
joe rogan
Lost a bunch of them to coyotes.
tony rock
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No rooster.
Can't have a rooster.
That's an asshole move.
tony rock
Every morning.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tony rock
I was in Tampa.
You've done the Tampa Improv.
You see the chickens all around Ybor?
joe rogan
Yeah, they do.
You do chickens.
tony rock
Five in the morning.
He's like, what the fuck, man?
Can they do something about this?
joe rogan
I used to have a gardener that he kept roosters, like fighting roosters.
And I went over to his house for something.
And he lived in this super Mexican neighborhood where everything was in Spanish.
All the signs were in Spanish.
Everything.
I was like, wow.
I mean, it was almost like visiting a section.
tony rock
Super Mexican?
joe rogan
Nothing was in English.
Everything was in Spanish.
But it was just super Mexican, to the point where everybody in his little area had boxes of chicken coops in the backyard, just stacked.
tony rock
Fighting chickens.
joe rogan
Yeah, fighting chickens.
Dude, I mean, like five houses on this one block.
tony rock
That's the cultural thing, right?
Fighting chickens.
So, like, people fight dogs and everybody's, what the fuck?
It's like, isn't that a cultural thing also?
Disclaimer, I don't fight dogs.
I don't even own a dog.
I get it.
joe rogan
We make a distinction between chickens and dogs.
tony rock
Because we eat chickens.
joe rogan
Because we eat chickens and because you never really form a bond with a chicken.
Like, chickens are always...
They're never really there for you.
You know, like, my dog's there for me.
I come home, I'm like, my man!
He gets happy.
I go, what are you doing?
How are you, sir?
He gives me kisses.
tony rock
He rolls on his back.
A dog is a family member.
A chicken is a meal.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he listens to me.
unidentified
He's...
joe rogan
He's patient.
tony rock
You can train a chicken.
joe rogan
You can't train shit with a chicken.
You can teach them where the food is.
That's it.
tony rock
No, you just make the noise and they know when they hear that noise.
joe rogan
We have a box of dried worms.
We shake this box of dried mealworms and as soon as they hear that they come running.
They love those things.
They're little monsters.
tony rock
It's like fish when you put your hand over...
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
They think you can drop some food on them.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can train them that much.
So we make a distinction.
So when someone's forcing dogs to kill each other, that's like forcing a family member that can't read to fight to the death.
tony rock
It's like making two of your friends fight to the death.
joe rogan
Yeah, like if you have a family member who can't read and you trick them into fighting to the death.
Tell him you'll love him the most if he does it.
Hey, dude, if you fight to death, I will love you the most.
tony rock
But you have to win for me to love you.
joe rogan
He's just smart for like a plant.
Smart for like, you know, like a...
But not smart for a person.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, he's not quiet.
But you can talk him into it.
tony rock
Just ask him a question.
I don't want anybody to get upset and say I said anything about fighting dogs.
I know how sensitive some people are.
joe rogan
Dude, today you can't riff anymore.
You can't just talk off the top of your head.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
You know, like sometimes you say some shit where you're just exploring it.
Like, what?
How come it's okay with chickens and it's not okay with dogs?
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
And you might actually be only...
You might be...
The only reasonable way to do that was to say it's fucked up with chickens, too.
That's the reasonable way.
But people would always misinterpret it and go with the worst way is to say, what's wrong with fighting dogs?
Which is not what you said.
tony rock
They're going to hear what they want to hear.
joe rogan
But you were really saying, why should you be able to fight chickens?
tony rock
Why shouldn't we love chickens just as much?
Because we eat them.
Because they're delicious.
Shouldn't they get the nod because they're delicious?
joe rogan
I went to an ashram once.
And this lady who was there, she and I were having a conversation.
And I noticed that she had ant spray.
And I said, what do you do with the ant spray?
She goes, well, it's unfortunate, but we have to use it because the ants have been getting to the garbage.
I go, what?
I go, you guys are murderers?
You guys are killing ants?
And she started laughing.
She thought it was kind of funny.
She's like, eh.
tony rock
We draw the line.
joe rogan
That's one thing about Buddhists, like a lot of Buddhists, they don't take themselves too seriously to the point where they can't crack out a little joke about...
unidentified
That's good.
joe rogan
The hypocrisy of the fact they're using bug spray in an ashram.
tony rock
That's very good.
joe rogan
Death spray.
You're killing all these organisms.
But we decide that that's okay.
Whereas if her backyard was invaded by house cats, she just went out and shotgunned them.
You can't do that.
You can't do that, but you can spray the fuck out of these little bugs.
tony rock
And you've got to kill them.
joe rogan
It's like when things are little, we're like, I can't be bothered worrying about you.
You're too little.
tony rock
Yeah.
unidentified
Weird, right?
tony rock
Buddhist, you would think, though.
They would...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you would think that they would figure out a better way to keep those ants out.
They're lazy.
They wanted to kill them.
tony rock
Buddhist are lazy.
joe rogan
Well, that one was.
tony rock
We just learned it today.
joe rogan
Well, don't you think there could have been a way to clean them up with water and not kill them?
No, you'd still kill some.
You'd still kill some.
tony rock
Why not just sweep them out?
Like, you're a Buddhist.
Why not just sweep them outside?
joe rogan
But even then, you're murdering dozens and dozens of ants.
If you just had a broom and you started hitting those ants, you're going to fuck up a few.
tony rock
Or how about you get an anteater if you're a Buddhist?
Because now it's Circle of Life type shit.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Damn, maybe.
tony rock
Get a chicken.
Get a chicken.
Chicken eats.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Then you got chicken shit all over your kitchen.
tony rock
Well, you sweep that up.
That's not going to kill anybody.
joe rogan
That's true.
Maybe that's the move for a Buddhist.
tony rock
Yeah, they should have chickens outside the ashram.
Hmm.
We're finding answers here.
We're getting answers.
We're getting down to the bottom.
joe rogan
I wonder if they try to make their chickens vegetarian.
Here, what does it say here?
If you have an infestation, use your vacuum to quickly get rid of the invaders, then immediately empty the vacuum bag in the outdoor compost pile or at some distance from your house.
Do not use ant bait or poison, like sprays like Raid.
That continue in the toxic waste stream from their point of manufacture to their ultimate destination in landfills via runoff or sewage.
Well, that's very conscious of them.
So they're saying, don't use bug spray, just use a vacuum cleaner.
You're still going to kill some, guaranteed.
You're sucking those little tiny things into a huge metal tube.
What could go wrong?
tony rock
Get a chicken, man.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if somebody, like, assumed that you would be okay, and they used something of proportionate size to suck you off the earth?
Like, yeah, they'll be fine.
They'll be fine.
You land on a pile of other people going 180 miles an hour.
tony rock
Or you and another person get sucked up at the same time, and you just smash into each other, your broken arms and shoulders.
joe rogan
I think that's ridiculous.
What would you do if there wasn't a vacuum cleaner, Mr. Buddhist Answer Man?
Huh?
What if there's no vacuum cleaner?
Would you use a broom?
A vacuum cleaner is gonna fuck those ants up.
tony rock
I say chicken.
Chicken eats ants.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think I like what you're doing.
I think that's a smart way of thinking.
tony rock
Ant-eater, even further.
joe rogan
But I think ant-eaters just like to get to a mound of dirt and just go to town.
I don't know if they would hunt them down.
tony rock
They stick their tongues in the ant hole, right?
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
tony rock
Tongues are like sticky, so it's just like they're just eating for days.
joe rogan
But what if they wiped them out real quick and then you got a fucking ant-eater that you have to feed, then you got to bring in ants, and you're like, what kind of an asshole am I? What eats an ant-eater?
tony rock
What eats an ant-eater?
joe rogan
You bring in a fucking jaguar.
tony rock
You bring in a black bear.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony rock
Now you're a psycho Buddhist.
joe rogan
Dude, there is a crazy video that I tweeted of these tourists walking through the woods and they're walking down a trail and they run into a fucking gigantic grizzly bear.
It is a terrifying video.
tony rock
Wow.
joe rogan
I tweeted it?
Yeah.
I didn't put it on Instagram.
Dude, this thing is so big.
And they're like, all right, back up!
Back up, sir!
tony rock
They got away.
joe rogan
Back up!
Yeah, they got away.
Yeah.
tony rock
Did you see the video of the poachers that went to kill the rhino and the lion killed them?
joe rogan
I heard about it.
Is there a video of it?
tony rock
I saw a picture.
I saw a still picture.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I didn't know if they got a video, but yeah, that's fucked up.
tony rock
That's fucking...
joe rogan
A few dudes got jacked, right?
tony rock
That's we even.
That's the lion saying we even.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Turn up the volume, Jamie.
I don't want to use my best break.
unidentified
Holy shit.
tony rock
I don't want to use my bear spray.
unidentified
That's a good boy.
joe rogan
That's a good boy.
tony rock
He's coming around.
What the fuck do you mean, good boy?
unidentified
That's good.
Can I come forward?
joe rogan
Yeah, see, here's the thing.
These motherfuckers, it's following him.
It's circling him around.
tony rock
Yeah, he's...
joe rogan
That thing is circling him, man.
It's going towards him.
That's a good boy.
That thing is coming way too close to him, man.
It's like going in a circle.
unidentified
Crap, he's huge.
tony rock
Hell no.
joe rogan
Yeah, they got lucky there.
tony rock
I would have been gone.
joe rogan
The scary thing about that is that bear could have just decided randomly through some firing of his bear synapses to take a left instead of a right.
tony rock
Just go at him.
joe rogan
He could have easily decided that.
Those things scare the shit out of me.
You know why, man?
We don't believe in things we don't see.
We don't believe in them.
tony rock
What do you mean?
joe rogan
You don't believe in things you don't see.
You know it's real, but you don't believe in it.
The danger?
No, you don't believe in it.
It's not a real thing in your world.
tony rock
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
If you were outside and you saw that, if you were with those people in Australia, you'd be like, oh, Jesus Christ, this is real.
tony rock
Well, no, if I was there, I would know that that's the reality.
joe rogan
That's real.
tony rock
Like, my world doesn't involve being somewhere near that close to a bear.
So to see it in my world would be...
It wouldn't be real.
joe rogan
No.
tony rock
I'd be like, holy shit, this can't be happening.
joe rogan
But if you were with those people, if you went on that trip with them...
tony rock
Yeah, I'd be...
joe rogan
That would be one of the craziest things you could ever do.
Your whole existence gets down to the chance that this thing makes a decision to go one way or another.
Otherwise, it's just going to run you down and tear you apart.
tony rock
That's like life.
If you go in certain scenarios, you're like, wait, this shit can get real fast.
joe rogan
Real fast.
Yeah.
That's one of them, man.
tony rock
That's life.
Inner city life is just like, holy shit.
Is this about to pop off in here?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Right?
Like how many people died in Chicago last week?
Some insane number.
There was the reporting on the lack of attention that the murders in Chicago were getting in like the national news and how crazy it is.
tony rock
I've been to Chicago several times.
The one thing that sticks out to me every time I go there is how segregated it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've never gone anywhere.
tony rock
For a major city like New York is like we're all right piled up together.
joe rogan
Four killed, 24 wounded in weekend shootings.
unidentified
God.
joe rogan
28 people got shot, dude.
That is crazy.
28 people in a weekend.
tony rock
12, 15 in the afternoon, it said.
joe rogan
Fuck.
tony rock
Standing on the sidewalk.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
tony rock
Someone opened fire.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
19-year-old.
There is a war going on in Chicago that's way more deadly than most of the wars we're engaging in overseas.
You don't hear about that many soldiers dying every day.
tony rock
Now, that's another scenario, how we said, like, that's real.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's real.
tony rock
That's real.
joe rogan
Right.
Unless you're there.
tony rock
You walk outside in Chicago, that is a real fear that you should have.
joe rogan
And this is what's great.
The number of people in Chicago this year passes 1,400!
1,400 people shot!
tony rock
Now, how many people do we know how many people got shot, like, doing tours of Afghanistan?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Is it 1,400?
So what is this?
This is over the year?
jamie vernon
This is just this year.
joe rogan
Just this year?
jamie vernon
This year, yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
So let's Google how many soldiers were shot overseas this year.
You know, that's a weird thing, man, that we got a war going on.
If that was Mexicans invading North Dakota and shooting people and that many people were dying every day, we would be taking action.
But because it's happening to people...
tony rock
If it was 1,400 and a hundred of them were white people, it would be an issue.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tony rock
If it was 1,300 black people and 100 white people, it'd be...
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
We shut Chicago down.
joe rogan
You're really right.
This is...
I mean, it's something that people don't talk about.
tony rock
It's 300...
I mean, it's like...
That would be crazy.
joe rogan
That's a weird statistic.
It's a terrible situation, like culturally, to have something like this as a glaring point.
tony rock
And with 1,400 people being shot, that means, and people don't want to realize this, is, you know, post-traumatic stress disorder is a real thing in the ghetto as well as in...
The hills of Afghanistan.
Of course.
It's real.
joe rogan
Of course.
tony rock
So when you see something, when people are like, why do these guys have guns on them?
It's like, dude, 1,400 people got shot.
I'm just trying to get to school and back.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
I'm trying to get to work and back.
joe rogan
Of course.
It's, you know, we're not protecting those people.
tony rock
Exactly.
joe rogan
If they were stuck somewhere overseas in the middle of some war, and they were American citizens, they'd be like, please help get us out of here.
If there was a place that had statistically the numbers of the south side of Chicago where all the murders going down, if there was a place statistically in another part of the world, we would be saying...
tony rock
Put those numbers anywhere else, and it's a crisis.
joe rogan
If we had, let's say, Hawaii.
Let's say if we had just moved into Hawaii, just took over Hawaii, and then we were in an area where people started getting shot and killed by locals like that.
We would want to extract those people from Hawaii.
We'd scoop them up from an island.
We would think they'd be shooting at the helicopters as we rescue them.
Right?
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
Well, you just look at the real numbers, just the raw numbers.
That's a crazy number of people getting shot in a year.
tony rock
Just this year.
This is July.
July just started.
joe rogan
How many soldiers got shot?
jamie vernon
I'm trying to find the wounded.
I can only find deaths.
joe rogan
Okay, what's the deaths?
jamie vernon
It's only like 1,500 total since like 2001. Since 2001, man!
tony rock
This is since January!
joe rogan
It seems weird saying only.
I know what you're saying.
You're saying in comparison to the other number, since January.
Yeah, that's insane.
tony rock
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That is insane.
And that's happening right here in the good old U.S. of A. in one of the biggest cities in the world.
Chicago's a giant, awesome city.
tony rock
And it's happening in other cities also that people don't know about.
joe rogan
But Chicago's the most glaring.
I don't travel around there, so I don't know what happened or why it happened, why they have this segregation there and what it was all about.
tony rock
Go to Chicago, man.
It's like black people all the way over there.
Then there's downtown where it's nice and everybody's, you know...
joe rogan
Detroit has that too, right?
tony rock
Detroit as well, yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, um, man.
tony rock
And you go down south, it's like that?
You go to Louisiana?
It's crazy!
joe rogan
If you were the king, or the president, Tony Rock- If I was the president?
How do you fix this?
tony rock
You have to fix this.
It's a process, man.
First, I always say number one is education.
Education is number one.
If you're getting a better education, then you just avoid the pitfalls naturally because you just know that certain things are wrong.
And by getting a better education, you have opportunities to do.
You have music appreciation.
You have the arts.
You have sports.
You have things to occupy you.
During school hours and after school hours.
There's no type of any type of extracurricular activities for these kids.
In Chicago, there's gang life, which you are born into, which you are expected to go into once you are a certain age.
Alright, you're a man now, here's a gun.
We don't like those guys.
Those guys don't like us.
You don't even question it.
It's like my father's been this way, my grandfather's been this way, my uncles are this way, my big brothers are this way.
You're born right into it.
joe rogan
You're born in a war zone.
tony rock
Alright, and you don't question it.
joe rogan
And it's a war zone where you sleep and your family lives.
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
Not just a war zone with soldiers, but a war zone with families.
tony rock
And another thing, better education, you're more worldly.
If you see the world, you realize how small your neighborhood is and there's a bigger world out there and you want to go places and see things, then you realize, like, what are we doing here?
But these are people that I guarantee probably never left Chicago.
Probably never went on vacation to the South to visit grandparents and realized, damn, the South is nice and quiet and the people are friendly and they've never been to, you know...
The zoo and saw an animal and went home and Googled the mating rituals of this.
Open your mind.
Open your mind.
You see the world.
The stuff that you're involved in becomes just so small.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
This guy, I don't like this guy because he has one red and I have one blue.
I don't get it.
So education.
joe rogan
That tiny little area, you know, that he operates in with his living his life.
It does matter.
You know, it's a reality.
tony rock
Right, right.
Your reality is what's around you.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what...
tony rock
Until you get a scope of a bigger world.
Like, I grew up in the hood.
I grew up in Bedside, Brooklyn.
One of the wildest neighborhoods when I was growing up there.
But my vision was past it.
My vision was, yeah, this is going on outside, but I'm going to be there one day.
joe rogan
What do you attribute having the ability to do that to?
tony rock
Having a mom and a dad.
My father worked two full-time jobs my whole childhood.
My father literally worked 80 hours a week.
80!
So just to see him go every day, like, damn, this dude works hard, man.
Didn't have a lot to show for it.
Made sure his kids had...
Mom was a teacher.
Education was, you know, she made an emphasis on it.
unidentified
Wow.
tony rock
You know, it was like my friends, one of my best friends down the block, no dad.
My friend across the street, no dad.
My friend two doors down, no dad.
Then crack came.
And that was, everything fucked up.
Everything started just, the neighborhood started just to, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was like a plague.
Crack was people that are alive today, or young kids today, they don't remember the 80s.
There was like a plague.
A plague hit.
Everybody knew somebody that got hit.
And so many people's lives were gone.
tony rock
Done.
joe rogan
Done.
Over.
People who were doing fine, and then all of a sudden...
tony rock
Yep, I remember it.
I remember it well.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a weird crime wave, too.
tony rock
Yeah, started losing friends.
That's what happened.
I started losing friends.
I saw...
Like, people don't...
It was crazy, man.
Like, some of the shit we saw...
I saw a friend get shot in the head.
Like, talk to him on the corner.
unidentified
Engaged.
tony rock
What's up, man?
Yeah, we gonna play ball later.
You wanna play ball?
Alright, cool.
I'll hit you later.
Turn to walk down the block.
Looked maybe, you know, a thousand feet away and looked back to like, just, you know, look around the neighborhood and saw a guy just run up.
Bang!
He looked like, if you ever see an old Big Daddy Kane album, he had the flat top and a bunch of jewelry on, on the corner, on the payphone.
This was beeper days.
And the guy ran up on him while he was returning a beep and just tried to rob him.
And then he went for his gun.
And the guy just, boom, right in his head.
Right on the corner of my block.
Right on the corner of my block.
And I went home and my parents were there and I was like, this is crazy, man.
And that's where I grew up.
But my vision was not confined to where I was.
It was, I'm going to be, you know...
joe rogan
You were very fortunate.
tony rock
Once I get out of here, I'm going to do this.
And once I leave here, I'm going to...
joe rogan
You're very fortunate to have those kind of examples of your dad who worked like that and your mom.
Very fortunate.
That's awesome.
Yeah, man.
It's hard for some people if they didn't get the break that you got in that regard.
tony rock
Absolutely.
That's why I don't...
It's not missed on me.
I realize if I didn't get that...
I didn't catch that last chopper.
joe rogan
Good for you, man.
But that's where character comes from, too.
Having someone like that as an example.
Like how someone who can work two full-time jobs.
That's a force of will.
Most people struggle with one, man.
One is hard.
Eight hours a day?
That's a long time.
tony rock
My dad's rule was everybody had to have a job at 14. So 13 was your last summer.
Enjoy yourself at 13. Have a ball.
Do whatever you want to do.
14, you're getting a job.
joe rogan
Wow.
tony rock
Yep.
No, he didn't play at all.
14, job.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know, those guys, the thing is, man, that's a bitter pill to swallow when you're young, but damn, the dudes who go through that always seem like they have an extra gear.
I know a lot of dudes who went through boot camp-type dads, and they did not like it.
But they can do some shit, like just a little bit more shit than other people can do.
They might not like the fact that their dad was always telling them what to do, but these motherfuckers can hike 20 miles and not complain.
tony rock
My dad wasn't boot camp, but it was like, you're gonna work.
That's not even a question.
You're gonna work.
And then I have so many siblings that what his rule was, we all had to take care of each other.
So my oldest brother, of course, he turns 14 first.
He's working.
He gets paid.
You have to give everybody $5.
You got paid today?
Give all your siblings $5.
joe rogan
Wow.
tony rock
Next brother gets a job.
Now it's two brothers working.
Give everybody $5.
joe rogan
Wow.
tony rock
So we all had to...
It was like a...
joe rogan
Socialism.
tony rock
Yeah, my dad just made sure it all worked.
joe rogan
That's cool.
That's very generous, too.
That's like everybody...
That's forcing everybody to be in it together.
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
That's smart.
tony rock
And taking...
And then it was...
The rule was...
It was...
If your brother's in a fight, you're in a fight.
So then it became don't fuck with the Rock brothers because there's so many of them you have to fight all of them.
So that kind of kept us safe during this whole, you know...
joe rogan
Wow, that's awesome.
And what a...
It's a bad situation to be in, but a great place to develop character.
There's a lot of opportunities to develop character there.
tony rock
You know who you are.
You know that you develop a sense of go and get it.
Work hard.
No excuses.
Nobody's doing it for you.
Nobody's coming to save you.
You're responsible for you.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
We all need to have a little bit more of that in our life and then also a little bit more community, too.
Absolutely.
tony rock
Oh, yeah.
And we grew up in a time where it was next door neighbor could spank you.
joe rogan
Right.
tony rock
Lady across the street could grab you and make you sit down on the stoop until your mother came home.
joe rogan
Right, right.
tony rock
The guy in the bodega at the corner would tell you to sit inside until your mother came home.
joe rogan
Yeah, people would police the neighborhood, police the neighborhood kids.
tony rock
Now we live in, don't talk to my kid, don't touch my kid.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
tony rock
Get off my son, don't touch my child.
joe rogan
There's a lot of that.
Well, it's because somebody...
Man, this is the weird balance.
I talked about this recently, but my cousin, I saw my cousin get smacked by some lady once when we were both like...
My cousin's a year younger than me, so I might have been six and she might have been five, somewhere around there.
It wasn't any older than that.
And this lady cuffed her right in the face, man.
She fell.
This lady fell on the ice, and my cousin just happened to be there, and she was looking at her on the ground, and she did not laugh at her, but the lady said she laughed at her.
The lady got up.
She was just angry that she fell and hurt herself.
She got up and smacked my cousin right in the face.
My cousin fell down.
I remember seeing it and realizing I couldn't do anything about it to save her, to help her.
I was a little kid, too, and being terrified that this grown-up person just smacked this little kid in the head.
For something that wasn't even real.
You don't want that either.
It's like, don't touch my kid.
It's probably better in the long run with crazy people smacking your kid.
tony rock
That's not helping raise a child.
That's being a mean-ass adult.
joe rogan
She was a crazy lady that lived in our building.
That was always the thing about living in apartment buildings, right?
There's always somebody who died, right?
Somebody who always died, and you would be walking by that apartment going, what the fuck is that?
What is that smell, man?
You ever smell a dead body when somebody died in the house?
Dude, it is crazy how bad it smells.
It's so bad.
People smell so bad when they die.
It's insane.
tony rock
Thank God I never smelled a dead body.
joe rogan
Dude, the entire floor smelled like a body.
It was so gross.
tony rock
Even after the body was gone?
joe rogan
It took a while, I'm sure, for them to clean it.
I hardly remember.
I just remember there was a terrible, terrible smell in the hallway, and then they realized that this lady had died.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
In her apartment.
So then they go in to get the body, but I don't remember how long it took for them to clean up the smell, but the smell was unbelievably bad.
tony rock
Wow.
And then somebody moves in and all the neighbors are like, you know, somebody died in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't tell you shit.
tony rock
They tell you that's the dead house.
Now you won't pass the dead house.
joe rogan
Don't they have to tell you now, like if someone got murdered in a house?
I think that's a law.
tony rock
That wasn't a law before?
joe rogan
I don't think it was.
I think in some places maybe it was a law.
tony rock
That's not a law.
They just sell you a house like, hey.
joe rogan
Hey, whatever.
tony rock
You figure it out.
joe rogan
What happened in here?
Nothing but good times.
Enjoy your house, fucko.
Nothing but good times in here.
tony rock
Why them bullet holes in the wall?
Hey, you bought it.
joe rogan
Hey, people get crazy in this neighborhood.
unidentified
They like to celebrate New Year's Eve, Fourth of July.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
You should probably know.
Do you believe in haunted houses?
tony rock
Eh, not really.
joe rogan
No.
tony rock
Not really.
I haven't experienced one, so I don't...
joe rogan
I don't...
tony rock
I don't give it much thought, put it that way.
joe rogan
I don't believe in ghosts, but I don't not believe in ghosts.
tony rock
Have you experienced the paranormal?
joe rogan
Nope.
But, imagine, you're out in the desert, and all of a sudden you see an apparition walk towards you in the desert.
tony rock
This is happening to you?
joe rogan
Just imagine.
Just imagine.
tony rock
Okay.
I'm in the desert.
joe rogan
It's nighttime.
And it looks right at you and it looks like a teacher that you knew from like seventh grade or something.
tony rock
This is at night?
joe rogan
At night.
And then it vanishes.
tony rock
My seventh grade teacher.
joe rogan
Then it vanishes right in front of you.
Do you tell people?
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you tell them?
tony rock
My fucking seventh grade teacher just popped up in the middle of the desert.
joe rogan
Oh, Tony, we got to get you to a doctor.
Tony Rock's gone crazy.
No, you know what you would do?
tony rock
You tell the people you trust.
joe rogan
Even if the people you trust, they'd be like, you okay?
Let me feel your head.
tony rock
I've never experienced it.
joe rogan
I would put you in the category.
Oh, Tony Rock might be crazy.
You'd have to go into that category.
Then I'd have to accumulate more data.
I'd have to say, well, every time I talk to him, he seems reasonable and intelligent.
He's a really funny guy.
I don't think he's crazy.
tony rock
I was out there by myself.
It was nighttime.
joe rogan
Dude, I was talking to this dude once.
He pulls out his phone and starts showing me pictures of clouds.
I go, what is that?
He goes, here's another one.
Look at this one here.
I go, what is it?
He goes, look at this one here.
I see them everywhere.
I go, what do you see?
And he goes, flying saucers.
unidentified
These are clearly ships from outer space.
tony rock
And you saw clouds.
joe rogan
They're in the clouds.
tony rock
They're inside the clouds.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's got pictures.
His phone was like...
Remember when Jack Nicholson was in The Shining?
All work, no play.
Makes Jack a dull boy.
Just types it over and over again.
This dude, his whole phone was just clouds.
He shows me the pictures on his phone.
I was like, oh no.
tony rock
Yeah, that's a little different.
joe rogan
Dude, he had hundreds of pictures of clouds.
tony rock
And what'd you say?
joe rogan
I didn't know what to say.
He's a grown man.
Older than me.
What was I going to say?
Okay.
That's what I usually say.
Okay.
There's nothing to say.
You think those are spaceships?
I'm looking at clouds and you think they're spaceships.
Something's wrong here.
I don't want to be mean.
He seems like a nice guy.
tony rock
Okay is probably the best bet.
joe rogan
Yeah, what do you say?
tony rock
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
Hey man, maybe he's right.
Maybe he has some They Live glasses that I don't have.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Remember that movie with Robbie Roddy Piper?
tony rock
I've got one that can see!
joe rogan
And he's looking at those photos and he sees some shit that my puny brain can't see.
That's possible too.
tony rock
What if people can see stuff like that?
What if people can see some stuff and we should...
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Be so clear in our sight.
joe rogan
I think it's entirely possible that people have senses, that they can detect things and feel things.
The real question is how many of those people are being honest about it and how often does it really happen?
Because the problem is there's a tendency.
This is the tendency.
People love to pretend they have some psychic power or they have some paranormal gift or they're Different and exceptional in some way without earning it from everybody else.
People love to do that.
Like, I just have a sense.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I have a sense of things.
tony rock
Because they like the attention.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just know.
I just know, man.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I just have a fucking instinct and I always go in my gut.
But that doesn't mean you're always right.
So you've got to wonder, like, how many people really do feel like something's wrong when something's wrong?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And how many people really do, like, know not to go to a place, like something is telling them not to go, like something strong, and how many people are just full of shit?
And how many people, after the fact, pretend they had a voice that told them not to do it?
tony rock
I don't know about the voice, but I know that that's real.
That instinct to say, hey, don't go there.
A lot of times, there's been times in my life where I, you know, Just followed the instinct and ended up, you know.
I remember one time something happened to my brother Brian.
My brother Brian is my favorite brother in the whole world.
Everybody knows this.
joe rogan
Whoa, the other brothers are mad right now.
tony rock
No, everybody knows Brian is my favorite.
Brian got, a guy tried to rob Brian in the neighborhood one day.
He got in a fight with a guy and the guy cut his face.
And he went to the hospital.
And I was at work.
And my brothers called me.
The guy tried to rob Brian.
And I didn't know where the hospital was.
I jumped on the train.
I took the train a few stops.
I jumped off.
I jumped on another train.
Took it a few stops.
I'm like, fuck.
I jump on another.
You know how you transfer in New York on the subway.
Jump on the third train and take it a few stops and get off and come up to the street.
And I asked the guy walking, hey, man, you know where Kings County Hospital is?
And he says, right there.
And I had no idea.
I just fucking felt it.
Like, I gotta get to my brother.
Wow.
Literally, hey man, where's that?
He's like, right there.
And I just felt it.
Like, I gotta find my brother.
And that's all I was thinking about.
joe rogan
Wow.
Yeah, I believe you.
I believe that's real.
I know for a fact that I've been thinking about people and they've called me.
tony rock
I say that's real, but I don't know about, you know, that they live glasses.
I don't know.
joe rogan
No, I don't think that's real.
But I know there's something that happens sometimes when you're thinking about someone and they call you.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Because sometimes it happens when this person is like so far out of your memory.
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
Like you haven't talked to them in a year and a half.
And you're like, dude, how the fuck did you know?
I was just thinking of you.
Like, man, I was just thinking about you.
Just call them, check and see what's up.
tony rock
The wave is so strong.
joe rogan
Yeah, it connects.
tony rock
You put a frequency that's so strong in the air that it...
joe rogan
I think there's something to that.
tony rock
Wait.
joe rogan
What is this?
Ghostbusters laws?
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
Many states passed legislation in the 1980s and early 1990s to protect sellers and real estate brokers from buyers claiming they were damaged by the seller's failure to disclose the presence of ghosts.
tony rock
Wow.
joe rogan
This is These laws became known as Ghostbuster Laws after the 1980s era movie comedy, Connecticut Ghostbusters Law, first appeared in 1990. Wow.
jamie vernon
Psychological impact is a thing.
joe rogan
Psychological impact became non-material.
Huh.
Nonmaterial fact concerning real property.
The overhaul also replaced the reference to HIV with a reference to the Commissioner of Public Health's list of reportable diseases.
Reportable diseases.
unidentified
Huh.
joe rogan
Wow, man.
This is all...
Yeah, I mean, I guess they have to do that, right?
They have to do that.
I mean, you don't want someone to know that, like, there was a house that I saw in Boulder that was for sale, the house where JonBenet Ramsey was killed, and they couldn't sell it.
I think they even changed the name of the street or something crazy like that.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And they still couldn't sell it, and it was like a really nice house.
People were just like, no thanks.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That house is just poison.
tony rock
That's like Bundy, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tony rock
They tore Bundy down.
OJ's house.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Did they tear it down?
tony rock
What was it called?
Rockingham?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, there could be some fucking psycho could move there.
You know, want to live where the king lived.
jamie vernon
The apartment, though, the condo is still there.
tony rock
Kato still lives there.
jamie vernon
No, no, no.
OJ's house is gone, but the murder scene is still...
tony rock
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tony rock
Really?
Why would they...
joe rogan
That is a...
That is a...
tony rock
Why would they tear down OJ's and...
Oh, well.
joe rogan
Somebody just made a call.
tony rock
That's sad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That was one of those stories.
tony rock
Ghostbusters lore.
Oh, my God.
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wonder whether or not...
tony rock
Your Honor, we're going to go back to reference Ghostbusters Law number one.
joe rogan
I think they usually say...
tony rock
I would like to call Ray Parker Jr. as a character witness.
joe rogan
I don't think in court they ever use those names, right?
They just use like the docket number or...
tony rock
Nah, you got to say Ghostbusters.
unidentified
Do you have to say it?
joe rogan
Are you allowed to say it in court?
tony rock
You got to come in with the music playing.
Ghostbusters.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's hilarious.
Yeah.
tony rock
That's something new.
joe rogan
Have you ever been a place where it felt weird?
When you found out that someone died there?
You ever been in a place where you felt the presence?
tony rock
No, I've been in places that felt weird because, you know, some violence was going to pop off and I knew it.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tony rock
And I was like, let's get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Right.
tony rock
That you can tell.
joe rogan
You can feel that sometimes.
tony rock
Somebody's dying.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
No.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I was at a concert once and a brawl broke out and I quit.
I was a security guard and I was in a Neil Young concert and it broke out and I put a hoodie on, I zipped it up, I covered my security outfit and I walked right the fuck out of there.
I was like, get you out of your fucking mind if you think I'm jumping into this fray and getting clocked in the head by somebody.
People were fighting and they canceled the show and kicked everybody out.
People are lighting fires.
tony rock
I was at the Vibe Awards when Dr. Dre got jumped and Young Buck stabbed a guy.
I was there.
I was doing a show for UPN. This was back when UPN was still a network.
And one of the execs from UPN was there with her young son, who wanted to see all the rappers.
And he's sitting at the table with us.
And I saw, like, the G-Unit group come in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Then I saw the Death Row guys come in.
Then I saw Dre's group come in.
And I'm sitting there, and I tell—I forgot the lady's name.
I said, hey, you might want to get your kid out of here.
Something's about to go down.
unidentified
Whoa.
tony rock
And she's like, what do you mean?
I'm like, it's about to go.
And she's like, he's so excited.
He wanted to see Dre and he loves 50 Cent.
And I'm like, listen, get this kid.
It was a little white kid too.
I'm like, oh my god, there's, can I go say hi?
And I'm like, you might want to get him out of here.
And the second time I said it, like, yo, you might want to really get him out of here.
It's going to pop off.
Boom.
Dre gets punched in the face.
Melee, Young Buck stabs a guy.
And I'm like, told you.
joe rogan
Jesus.
tony rock
And like two days later on set, she's just like, how did you know that?
I'm like, I know the energy in the room.
I can feel it.
I've been around it too many times.
joe rogan
That's a crazy feeling too when people are about to do something ridiculous.
tony rock
Yeah, you see the walk, you see the look.
It's sad, but it's true.
When you grow up in the hood, you have that instinct.
You have that look.
You look at a guy walk past you one time and you look around the room and, okay, it's about to go.
It's about to go.
joe rogan
Yeah, people that have never experienced that probably wouldn't know what to do.
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
They would think nothing of it, like that lady.
Like, she'd never seen those signs before.
tony rock
Yeah, I've been on the road.
This was recently, like maybe three months, four months ago.
I had my feature comic with me.
He's from Chicago, actually.
And we're in a club after the show, and there's a couple of guys talking in the corner.
And I said something to a girl.
She's like, hey, Tony Rock, have a little small talk.
And she walks over to the group of guys.
And one guy walks over and stands at the end of the bar here, and one guy stands at the end of the bar here, and I turn to my friend Dave, and I go, yo, you ever been in a fight in a bar before?
And he said, no.
I said, get ready, motherfucker.
You're about to be in one.
Because I saw it.
unidentified
Jesus.
tony rock
And then the third guy comes over.
It's so funny.
The third guy comes over, and he's like, oh, shit, you are the comedian.
And I said, yeah.
He said, I thought that was you.
We was over there talking.
I was like, I thought that was the comedian guy.
And he's like, I got to get a picture, man.
I took a picture with him, and he calls the other guy.
I'm like, yeah, it was the comedian.
It was him.
It was like he kind of just squashed it because I guess they didn't know who I was.
And it was going to go because I said something to the girl.
And then he's like, no, it's the comedian.
And I'm like, hey, fellas, what's up?
Now I turn into the comedian like, what's up, guys?
How y'all doing?
Y'all all right?
What do you guys need to drink?
Let's do a round of shots.
And Dave's like, dude, how did you know that?
I'm like, I know, motherfuckers.
It was going to go.
It was going to go.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you ain't never been around violent people, you probably don't smell that vibe, right?
You smell that vibe.
That's a valuable tool to have if you're in those places.
tony rock
Especially if you're on the road in cities, you know, by yourself.
joe rogan
On the road, you know, maybe you have a local friend who's like, dude, let me take you to my friend's club.
He wants to meet you.
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
And then you're in some place, you're like, how do I get out of here?
tony rock
Where are we exactly?
Or I've been in, hey, my boy's having a party at his house.
And I'm like, oh, what the fuck am I doing at his house?
joe rogan
You're up in the hill somewhere.
tony rock
You gotta drop the car off and get in a bus.
I have no point of reference.
I'm like, I don't know where I'm at, man.
joe rogan
The craziest ones are the ones that have to take you in a shuttle.
You have to park your car here, sir.
You're like, what?
Are you fucking kidding me?
You go into a shuttle to a party?
tony rock
The worst, I was in Iowa one time.
This is a true story.
I was in Iowa.
I was in Des Moines, Iowa.
Did the show.
There's not very many black people in Iowa.
So it shows up a group of white guys.
Like, hey, bro, you super funny, man.
Let's go get a drink.
Let's go to the bar right down the street.
I'm a New Yorker.
Right down the street is literally right down the street.
joe rogan
Right.
They get in a truck.
tony rock
He pulls a truck around.
He pulls a pickup truck.
One of those four-door pickup trucks.
joe rogan
Big ones.
tony rock
And there's two guys in the front.
And they're like, hey, jump in, man.
And I'm like, hey, fuck it.
We're going right down the street.
And now we're driving for maybe 10 minutes.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
tony rock
And I'm trying to get a point of reference if I got to jump out the truck.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
tony rock
It's Iowa.
It's nothing...
As far as you can see, right or left of the truck.
Just highway and grass.
joe rogan
Right.
tony rock
So there's nothing like if I jump out which way, I don't know.
joe rogan
This is how girls have to feel every time they get in a guy's car.
tony rock
Yes, yes, yes.
joe rogan
That feeling.
tony rock
So we pull up at a barn.
A barn.
And the two guys are excited.
They jump out and they run around the other side of the bar like, hey, bro, come around this way.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
tony rock
And they turn and I can't see them now.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
tony rock
And I say to myself, like, holy shit, this is how it's going to end.
This is it right here.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
tony rock
And I turn the corner and I see the neon light that says girls, girls, girls.
I had never been so excited to see the ugliest strippers in the world.
It was like, yes.
Yes, I want a lap dance from this wildebeest.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
I'm not dead.
tony rock
I want all the lap dances because I thought I was going to die five seconds ago.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
You thought they were taking you to a barn somewhere.
You go back behind there, there's chains hanging from the rafters.
tony rock
Exactly.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
That shit's happened before.
That's the crazy thing about people.
Like, the worst thing.
You know, I'm watching this show Vikings.
You ever watch it, Jamie?
You got to binge.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a good goddamn show.
I think I'm on season three or four.
I can't remember.
unidentified
Damn, I never saw it.
joe rogan
It's a good fucking show.
But it just shows you how brutal people were back then.
Like, every day, someone's getting fucked up on that show.
That show's a guarantee people are gonna die.
Every episode.
unidentified
I gotta check it out.
joe rogan
People are getting drowned.
People are holding them underwater.
Little kids are killing people with axes.
Like, it's crazy.
That show is fucking crazy.
Every day, people are getting jacked and murdered and killed.
tony rock
You sound like you like it.
joe rogan
It's a fucking good show.
I enjoy it.
But the point is, these people were...
This was life for these fucking people.
tony rock
Right, right.
joe rogan
That was a real-world situation.
tony rock
Your reality is what your reality is.
People that don't understand your reality, well, you're not from this world.
This is a real thing to us, to know how a fight's going to pop off, to know when a guy's strapped, to know when this is our reality.
joe rogan
What's crazy is that we like to think that that doesn't exist anymore, that that Viking style of living doesn't exist.
But it does.
They just use guns now.
It's just happening like that with guns.
That's all it is.
It's basically that same kind of like conqueror, survivor mentality.
Bullets and fuck you and fuck him.
tony rock
The guys that run in the jewelry store and smash the glasses.
That's pillaging and pondering, right?
joe rogan
It's the same kind of...
It's like as old as time.
It's just confined to certain areas now and it's not spreading out like the Vikings did in giant boats and getting on the sea.
tony rock
And they're not doing it like the Vikings did it Some aspect of it was just you know Trying to discover new lands.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
You know.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were trying to farm and shit.
tony rock
Yeah.
There's meat over here or there's gold here.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony rock
Now they just do it because it's like, I have to eat.
I want those sneakers.
joe rogan
Man, I wish I could see what it was really like back then.
Because it's like, you watch the show and the show's really cool, but you know they're actors and they're doing a great job and everything, but you still know they're actors.
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
And you're watching them do things and everything's really well done.
I mean, it's a really well done show, but still you're like, man, I wish I could see it in real life.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
To just be where it was happening in real life.
Can you imagine just being alive back then when the best clothes were made out of fucking animal hides?
You just draped in buffalo skins and shit.
tony rock
Or you killed the buffalo, you ate the village, ate the buffalo, and then you used every piece of it.
joe rogan
They lived in these bays.
tony rock
It was clothes, it was food.
joe rogan
They would take their boats out and catch fish and bring them in and people would be waiting on the docks to see if they were going to eat tonight.
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
And there's only like 200 people in the town.
So if a plague hit, half the people would be dead.
tony rock
A woman would have a baby right in front of you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Wrap it in a blanket and that was it.
joe rogan
Dude, that's how people lived forever.
People lived like that for thousands of years.
tony rock
And they lived.
And they lived.
They actually lived.
They thrived.
joe rogan
Right, but wouldn't you take this over that?
tony rock
I would take this, yes.
joe rogan
They would, too.
They'd be like, you fucking asshole.
You want to be a Viking?
I want to drive a Cadillac.
tony rock
I would take the bottled water, yes.
joe rogan
They'd be like, no, no, no, fuck riding a horse, dude.
I drove an Escalade today.
That shit is so smooth.
It's comfortable.
The AC is hot outside, but it's cool in here.
I play this music.
I'm wirelessly charging my phone right there on the fucking...
It's like, they would be like, you're an asshole if you want to live like us.
Are you campers?
tony rock
And then some guy who doesn't have any of that fucking opens your door with a gun and now he's the Viking.
joe rogan
Exactly.
tony rock
I need this.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
And if you don't take care of that problem, this is the thing.
It never gets better.
It's like a part of...
It's like if you were a person and you had a thing that was wrong with you, like a big cancerous legion on your leg and you just ignored it, fuck it, whatever.
Just keep on trucking.
tony rock
It's going to keep going, right.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is exactly what any sort of crime-infested area is.
It's a problem that if you don't address, it's not going to get any better.
And it probably is going to get worse.
tony rock
People don't address the problems in society until it affects them.
joe rogan
What do you think they could do, though?
Besides just education, how do you stop as much crime?
How do you give people counseling?
tony rock
You can get the guns out of Chicago.
You can get the guns out of any way if you want to.
joe rogan
You think so?
How would they get the guns out?
They would get most of the guns out, right?
tony rock
You can get most of the guns out.
You can do that.
joe rogan
But do you run the risk of taking guns away from people that could defend themselves in a really dangerous area that's filled with guns?
tony rock
By taking...
joe rogan
By taking the guns out.
Like, what about people that are also...
Like, who are you going to take the guns away from?
Are you going to take the guns away from the lady who runs the bakery, who carries a lot of cash at the end of the day?
tony rock
No, the lady that runs the bakery keeps her gun.
The lady that runs the bakery that has a business...
That provides goods and services for the neighborhood.
joe rogan
That wants protection.
tony rock
That wants protection, keeps her gun.
joe rogan
Did you see that recent video?
There's a crazy video of these two gals behind a stove, and one leaves cooking.
tony rock
Oh yeah, saw it yesterday, and the guy punched her in the face.
joe rogan
The guy comes back and wails her in the head, and then the other girl pulls a gun at him.
tony rock
She keeps her gun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
She keeps her gun because shit like that might happen.
But that guy, now imagine if he had a gun.
joe rogan
That's a good thing for people to see.
This is why, and I'm not saying everybody should have guns.
It's a good thing for people to see because you only hear the other side.
You only hear guns being dangerous and killing people.
You don't hear people like that lady that just saved herself from getting the fuck beat out of her with a gun.
tony rock
I saw that video, and then I saw the other video was a guy in a jewelry store.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
He comes in, two or three guys, hoodies on, mask on.
You see the guys coming through the door, pulling their mask down.
joe rogan
Oof.
tony rock
It's like on the camera.
joe rogan
Right.
tony rock
And then you see a guy walk away from the jewelry display.
He walks, the camera's shooting this way, so he walks out of range of the camera.
And when the guys come in, he comes back blasting.
Boom.
unidentified
Boom.
Whoa.
tony rock
That guy keeps his gun.
joe rogan
Jesus.
He just started shooting?
tony rock
No, they came in, guns out.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
So what happened?
tony rock
It was customers in there, too.
No, he hit one.
There was customers in there?
Yeah, and the other two ran out, and you see the guy run out of camera range.
joe rogan
Can you imagine being in a fucking jewelry store trying to buy a watch for your wife and a gunfight breaks out?
tony rock
Engagement ring.
You're just like, I'm so in love.
Me and my girl are going to get...
And the guy just comes in.
joe rogan
And you think this could be it.
This is how I'm going to go.
My kids are never going to see me again.
tony rock
Or you think, you know what?
This is a sign we shouldn't get married.
I was so in love, but that shit was scary.
joe rogan
Listen, I just have too much PTSD to get married right now.
tony rock
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
tony rock
Yeah, but you run a business, you keep your gun.
joe rogan
You keep your gun, yeah.
tony rock
You're just a guy on the corner, 20 guys on the corner, cops stop them, frisk, okay, taking these guns.
joe rogan
It's going to be hard to get them all, man.
And the problem is defining who gets to keep one and who doesn't get to keep one.
It's very sketchy.
tony rock
Well, let's have that argument later.
Let's get the guns first.
joe rogan
Because 1,400 people just got shot.
Hold on, but the problem with that is you're never going to get them back.
Once you take them away, whoever got the guns taken away, they're never getting their guns back.
tony rock
Well, no.
You've got to take the guns, and then there has to be more to just that.
You've got to take the guns, and there has to be an increased police presence.
You have to take the guns, and they have to be...
Something to do when school lets out.
You have to take the guns and they have to be, you know, counseling for drug offenders.
And you take the guns and there has to be jobs in the neighborhood.
You know, it's a lot of steps that have to go.
But it can be done.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You could definitely get the illegal guns, right?
If you could somehow or another get access to them.
The illegal guns.
The legal ones are going to be real tough.
Because if someone has a gun legally and they haven't committed a crime, it's going to be real hard to take that gun away from them.
tony rock
Yeah, but I don't think if they did the numbers, the guys with legal guns, aren't the guys that are...
joe rogan
Committing all these crimes, right.
tony rock
The guy with a legal gun, I'm pretty sure, isn't the guy that drove past this party and shot up.
joe rogan
Right.
Then you've got to worry about the people with legal guns getting robbed for their guns.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, if guns become a shortage.
The whole thing is very...
It's a real problem, and it's very...
It's very complicated, I think, to try to completely solve it.
And how do you get these people that are in that life that are every day involved in gang violence and...
tony rock
I don't think everybody...
I could be wrong.
I don't think everybody that's in gang life wants to be there.
joe rogan
I think you're right.
No, I think you're definitely right.
tony rock
I think they're just like, what the fuck else is there to do in this neighborhood?
joe rogan
You're right.
You're right.
tony rock
I think if they had an opportunity to, you know...
I think the guy, the kid that is a very good basketball player that...
His uncle, like I said, his family lineage is gang life.
If he had a chance to go play basketball somewhere, he would take that chance.
joe rogan
I think you're totally right, and I think in the absence of any other chances, that's when it becomes something that's an option.
And I think it's all about the same feeling that people get when they're joining gangs or when they're like a staunch right winger or a staunch left winger.
I think it's all the same thing.
It's like people have a desire to belong to something.
Make something that makes your life have more meaning or feel like it has more meaning.
tony rock
Absolutely.
And then when you don't have that, you'll get behind anything.
joe rogan
You'll get behind anything.
tony rock
Like I say on Instagram all the time, it's like I told my little brother just yesterday.
It's the reason why they call them followers, because they just want to get behind shit they don't even understand.
My Instagram is hilarious because I get a lot of people, I'll get girls that are like, hey, I love what you're doing, I saw your shows.
Then I get the random guy that's like, you're not shit, you're just Chris's brother, you ain't shit.
And it's like, dude, you think that's going to hurt me?
You just wanted to be involved in this.
You just wanted to be a part of it.
You wanted my attention, you didn't know how to get it.
joe rogan
Well, the problem is the desire to do that in the first place.
Like, who the fuck are you?
Like, why would you want to do that?
Why would you want to make somebody feel bad for no reason?
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
For what?
tony rock
Because you just want to be involved in some capacity.
joe rogan
Yeah, here's a tip to anybody that thinks like that.
There's no way you're not a loser.
It's impossible.
There's not a single winner alive that would write something like that.
tony rock
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Do you think, like, maybe, like, Michael Jordan goes trolling through?
Instagram accounts looking for shit.
Yeah, you can do shit without your brother.
Can you imagine?
tony rock
You had to sign with the Lakers to be...
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
tony rock
That's what it is.
It's losers and it's winners, man.
Losers always have a fucking excuse for why they're not winners.
joe rogan
It's weird, you know?
And I think it's a lot of it is people not having good examples around them when they're growing up.
Getting fucked over, being in a bad situation.
It's like we're just developing shitty people or at least people that have shitty ideas.
In these cycles where it just does never get better in certain spots.
tony rock
I agree.
I think we're making more shitty people now.
There's more shitty people than before.
I agree.
joe rogan
But I feel like we could put a curb on that.
I feel like we could slow it down.
I really do.
tony rock
How do we curb?
joe rogan
People have to change the way they think about shit.
Time is too short to be shitty.
You know, and everybody's been shitty.
I've been shitty before.
I'm sure you've been.
Jamie's shitty the other day.
Remember?
I'm just kidding.
We all have been.
You know, it's just people have to figure out a way to do that less and resist the urge to do it.
That urge to do it is a bad urge.
It doesn't help anybody.
You just feel good because you made somebody feel bad?
Like, for what?
You don't even know Tony Rock.
Why are you talking shit to him?
Like, what is that, dude?
Fuck you, bro.
His fucking brother was the reason why I know about him in the first place.
So he's fucking lucky I know who he is.
tony rock
But that's like a fake sense of feeling better about yourself.
Because it doesn't really make you feel better about yourself.
joe rogan
It doesn't at all.
tony rock
And it clearly doesn't affect me.
It doesn't hurt me one bit.
joe rogan
It also defines you to yourself because you know you're not a winner.
Because it's impossible.
You think Elon Musk goes and trolls on Twitter and says mean shit to people and talks about girls' asses.
He doesn't have the time for that, right?
He's a winner.
He's busy rescuing the...
Oh, they got those kids out of the cave in Thailand.
tony rock
Yeah, everybody's out.
Everybody's out.
joe rogan
That's one of those baby in a well type things.
Every few years, like a little kid falls into a well.
tony rock
Why does that happen once a year?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
We need to fix wells.
That shit should not be an option.
tony rock
Happens once a year.
joe rogan
Little kids fall down a well.
tony rock
That and the guy blowing his pinky finger off on July 4th.
Happens every year.
You would think people would learn.
joe rogan
Oh, that's probably happening all year round in Texas, right?
unidentified
In Texas.
joe rogan
Places where you can go to Mexico real quick, sneak over there and buy firecrackers.
tony rock
I know every 4th of July in Brooklyn is like...
Mike lost his finger.
joe rogan
I bet if they had a video across America, you know how they have those time-lapse videos and you could see every kid ever documented that lost a finger in a firecracker accident?
It would look like hands are at war with firecrackers.
If you could just look across the country and see from California to New Jersey and just see every kid losing a finger.
Oh my god, that one pocket would just be...
tony rock
Man, every year.
Every year.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
Did you see the NFL player?
He posted a picture of his hand.
tony rock
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
tony rock
P.F. Paul.
jamie vernon
Jason P.F. Paul.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Show it to me.
tony rock
Show it to me.
joe rogan
It's like, oh, no.
tony rock
Yeah, it's back.
Oh!
Shit.
joe rogan
What happened?
tony rock
That was July 4th last year?
Two years ago?
jamie vernon
Two years ago.
He blew up his hand.
joe rogan
He's a basketball player?
jamie vernon
M80. Football player.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
tony rock
M80 in his hand.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
So he lost fingers?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
And millions of dollars.
joe rogan
So that was it?
jamie vernon
No, he played again, so he came back and played with a cast on his hand.
tony rock
He's still playing.
unidentified
He got traded.
tony rock
He got traded to Tampa Bay.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
He can play football?
jamie vernon
He's just a defense.
He's just tackling.
tony rock
He has like a mitten.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
He's defense.
Dude, what in the fuck, though?
He blew his thumb off, man.
jamie vernon
And his pointer?
tony rock
Index finger.
joe rogan
He blew three fingers off!
jamie vernon
I don't know what that is.
tony rock
That's the middle finger!
That's his middle finger!
joe rogan
That was his middle finger, and one of those ones on the other side.
tony rock
That's Ring and Pinky.
joe rogan
Jesus.
Fuck, man.
That is terrifying.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he shared that on the 4th to like...
tony rock
Yeah, he posted a video and was like, be careful on the 4th, and had his hand...
joe rogan
Good for him.
Yeah, good for him.
Yeah, fuck those things, man.
They're too easy to get in some spots.
You know?
Like if you're on a border city, just sneak over to Juarez.
tony rock
We wouldn't even see them in Brooklyn until around the 4th, and they disappeared after that.
joe rogan
I took a drive to Tijuana once.
We were working in San Diego at La Jolla, La Jolla Comedy Store.
We took a drive.
Right down to Tijuana.
There's a weird feeling you get.
tony rock
I've never been to Tijuana.
joe rogan
This was Tijuana in the 90s, man.
This is like when it was still Tijuana.
You might not come back.
Now people go there for cheap dental work.
They do.
They do.
People sneak across the border to go to a dentist.
tony rock
Why would you go to Tijuana to go to a dentist?
joe rogan
Because they're good dentists.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
But it's just super cheap.
tony rock
Holy shit, no.
joe rogan
Cost of living over there is cheap.
tony rock
My dentist is in Beverly Hills.
joe rogan
You want that dude to play Prime Real Estate.
Yeah, man.
You need to get paid.
Yeah, you want a dentist that's really hustling, not a dentist that's easier if you just go to Juarez.
tony rock
And don't women go down and they get butt injections also now?
joe rogan
Ooh, do they?
unidentified
Oof.
tony rock
They get fake titties and butt injections.
joe rogan
Whoa, really?
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
tony rock
In hotel rooms.
Go to hotel.
What is this?
joe rogan
What is that?
jamie vernon
It's the map.
Here's the border, and there's all the dentists right on the main street.
tony rock
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Right on the main street.
jamie vernon
Right off the border.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
tony rock
Who's the first guy right there?
Central.
Yeah, that guy.
joe rogan
Tijuana Clinic for Cosmetic Dentistry.
Holla at your boy.
Want to get some pearly whites, son?
I'm tired of these marijuana and coffee stain choppers.
I'm going down there.
I'm going to come back pretty.
I'm not going to say shit, Jamie.
I'm just going to disappear.
tony rock
I've never been to Tijuana, man.
joe rogan
I'm going to tell you I'm going on a hunting trip, and then I'll strike out, and then I'll come back with some shiny choppers.
tony rock
That's what the women are doing.
We go into Miami for the weekend.
They come back from Tijuana with fake tits.
One's higher than the other one.
joe rogan
Fake tits are a weird one, man.
Because we'd never accept anything like that on a dude.
But on a girl, we're like, take it.
unidentified
You're right.
joe rogan
Like, if a guy had, like, fake traps.
I just like that look.
I like that look.
If guys just put fake traps in because they found out that girls like traps.
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
If there was one thing like that.
tony rock
You're right.
There was nothing that a guy could...
What?
joe rogan
Nothing's even close.
Nothing's even close.
So we're like, I'll take it.
I'll take it.
We don't care.
We're so much easier than them.
tony rock
That's what it is.
unidentified
That's why.
tony rock
That's why.
joe rogan
We're so much easier to excite.
tony rock
Guys don't care if I have a fake ass.
Guys are like, you're right.
joe rogan
They don't care.
Guys with a fake ass.
Imagine if a girl was like, your butt is so big.
You must be able to jump so high.
And the guy's like, no, I had my butt done last year.
Girl will be like, what?
tony rock
Yeah.
Did you really just say that?
joe rogan
What did you say?
tony rock
Guys don't care.
joe rogan
And then he said, ready?
He said, I got my butt done.
That's what he said.
I got my butt done.
tony rock
That would be his nickname.
They'd have a nickname about him.
joe rogan
They'd call him butt done.
tony rock
Guys don't care.
My cousin used to have a joke.
He'd say, I don't give a fuck what's in your titties.
Just fuck me.
joe rogan
Whoa, that guy's aggressive.
unidentified
That's funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, if women can hear the ridiculous shit that men say all the time, the shit that makes us laugh.
The gross thing is people trying to pretend that we mean everything we say, too.
tony rock
Especially with comedy.
joe rogan
With men in comics.
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
But right now, men in comedy.
tony rock
Men in comedy.
Right, right.
That's the problem.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
It's like, some of this stuff we're just joking, you know?
Like, stop being so serious.
joe rogan
Most of it.
tony rock
We're just joking.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you find that this is a more sensitive time for comedy?
tony rock
That's what I'm being told and that's what I see in the news, but I refuse to, you know, change anything I do.
joe rogan
Kind of can't, right?
tony rock
I'm not doing it.
I'm not saying jokes and then having to issue a statement later.
It's like I was saying a joke, man.
If you didn't take it the way I interpreted it, if you interpreted it the wrong way, that's still on you.
I'm not doing it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's just supposed to be funny, stupid.
tony rock
Right.
It was funny to somebody, you know?
joe rogan
It's weird that it's okay to do in a movie.
Like, you could have some ridiculous scenes in a movie, but when you have a ridiculous thing that you're saying, like, people take it as a fact.
Oh, he's not even acting.
tony rock
Yeah, right.
There's no acting.
It's like, you said it.
Yeah, you said it.
Joe Rogan believes this.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is your perspective.
tony rock
Tony Rock thinks that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's interesting.
I think this is a very unique time in communication for people.
It's one of the reasons why stand-up is a little bit more challenging right now.
But I think that's all a good thing, man.
tony rock
Challenging is good.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all good, man.
tony rock
It'll make for a better product.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all good.
It's all good.
It's all interesting.
Where have you been working mostly these days?
tony rock
The first quarter I was on tour with Mike Epps.
We went out from January to like March, April, and then I'd do my own thing.
joe rogan
You went on a tour tour.
tony rock
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
The real deal, like every week.
tony rock
Mike brings them out, man, like 10,000, 12,000.
Jesus Christ.
It's fucking incredible, man.
joe rogan
When you're doing a tour like that, man, and you're doing how many nights a week?
tony rock
We do Friday and Saturday.
If it's a three-day weekend, we do a Sunday.
joe rogan
Oh, so every week, Friday, Saturday, Friday, Saturday.
And then are you working in the city at all?
Are you working in here?
tony rock
I'm always working in the city.
I'm always working when I'm here.
joe rogan
Yeah, that gets you sharp as fuck, man.
tony rock
Right, right.
And then I do that, and then from there, I do 20, maybe 25 minutes with Mike.
Then when that leg is done, I do from April, May to October, September, October, Funny Bones improv, just comedy clubs, more intimate settings with the guys I bring out.
And we do that until LA needs me, I'll be on the road.
And now they just added more dates for Mike for the fourth quarter.
So we're doing West Coast now.
We're doing Portland and San Fran and Oakland and San Diego and California and Phoenix.
It's going to be incredible, man.
joe rogan
You're one of those guys where I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Like, how come people haven't caught on to the fact that Tony Rock's one of the funniest guys alive?
tony rock
Yeah, I've had a lady at the show the other night.
She said, I think the whole world is sleeping on you.
And I said, that's the fucking best compliment I've ever heard in my life.
joe rogan
Well, the thing is, man, you've been under the radar, but getting better.
Like, I remember I came up to you.
tony rock
That's all that matters.
It's like, as long as I'm getting better, I'll pop up on your radar at some point.
joe rogan
I don't remember how long ago this conversation was.
How long have you been doing comedy now?
98. 98. So I think we had this conversation more around the year 2000-ish.
It was fairly recent.
And you started doing stand-up.
We were talking at the Laugh Factory.
And I remember coming up to you and going, Dude, you got good.
You got good.
You really made a big jump.
tony rock
Every day, man.
joe rogan
And you were saying, I'm working, man.
I'm out here working.
tony rock
Every day.
joe rogan
And I remember watching that set and thinking...
I don't remember what year this was, but I want to say it was like 2002 or 2003 or something like that.
Watched the set, I was like, oh dude, this guy's about to pop.
tony rock
Nice.
Yeah.
I'll be under the radar until I'm not.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
That's the thing.
Every time I see you, you're getting better.
That radar's a good thing.
tony rock
And then people say, oh, he blew up, but not knowing that, like you said, it was 2000 we had this conversation.
joe rogan
It's a fucking grind, baby.
tony rock
It's a grind.
You gotta be in it.
It's a lot of guys.
A lot of guys I work with at the Laugh Factory, you know, I see them all the time.
Ruben Paul.
You know Ruben Paul.
joe rogan
Sure.
tony rock
I see Ruben Paul.
He's working.
I see, you know, I see...
Who do I... Everybody.
I'm thinking of names.
I'm lost in names.
Ruben, I see all the time.
He does the room there now.
He has a Tuesday night show that he does.
It's like, we in the trenches, man.
We working.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's how to do it.
It's the only way, too.
It's the only way in this crazy business.
It's a weird business, man.
tony rock
And it's just, you know, if you stay in that work mode, there's so much stuff going on in the world.
There's material out there.
Just grab it.
It's out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's always something fucked up going on, especially today.
tony rock
And in your life, there's stuff going on.
You're like, okay, gotta put that down.
joe rogan
I mean, this is one of the strangest times, I think, ever to be a comedian.
Because you're like, whew, where do I begin?
tony rock
That's a great intro.
Just walk on stage like...
Fuck, where do I start, man?
joe rogan
Everything's a mess.
tony rock
What do I do?
Where do I begin?
joe rogan
Yeah, the whole thing's a mess, man.
We're buddying up with dictators and who knows what's happening.
We got a reality TV star for a president and he's actually, the economy's doing well so no one knows what to say.
The whole thing is chaos.
tony rock
The first lady was in Playboy.
The first lady was in Playboy.
joe rogan
She is the very first hot as fuck first lady.
Right?
No doubt.
tony rock
Well, we haven't seen all the First Ladies, so...
joe rogan
That's true.
She's the very first hot as fuck first lady we've ever seen.
tony rock
Jackie O was stylish, right?
You shut your mouth.
Jackie O was stylish, wasn't she?
joe rogan
You shut your mouth, Tony Rock.
tony rock
Wasn't she a fashion icon?
joe rogan
She was okay.
tony rock
She was a fashion icon, right?
joe rogan
She was okay.
If Melania walked in the room, we stopped talking to Jackie.
No disrespect.
No disrespect.
She was a beautiful lady.
She certainly was.
She was, I'm sure, a wonderful woman.
But Melania's, like, stunning.
She's, like, supermodel stunning.
Yeah, especially when she was younger.
tony rock
I don't think she's stunning.
joe rogan
Dude, you ever see pictures of her?
tony rock
Young Melania?
No.
joe rogan
Dude, when he first married her, she's a beautiful woman, like undeniably.
Okay.
Well, you don't have to agree with me.
tony rock
I see some attraction there, but I don't know if she's like, holy shit.
joe rogan
I think if you were around her in a party, and you both had a couple of cocktails.
tony rock
Oh, it might go down.
joe rogan
And she touched your thigh, looked at you, you'd be like, oh shit, I just got lightheaded.
tony rock
I think you like Melania.
Are we pulling a picture up?
What are we doing?
joe rogan
Jamie's jerking off over there.
tony rock
Where's the picture of her in Playboy?
joe rogan
That's how hot she is.
jamie vernon
I was trying to go, how young?
tony rock
Do you have the Playboy picture?
joe rogan
No, just show a photo of Melania.
jamie vernon
All right.
tony rock
Why can't we see the playboy picture?
joe rogan
Yeah, here we go.
Come on, son.
tony rock
Oh, that's not bad.
joe rogan
She's hot as fuck.
tony rock
That one on the left is not bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's her when she was younger, but not much younger.
I mean, I think it's just how she's wearing, what she's wearing.
She's dressed more conservative now.
Like, if you look at her in the far right pick, you know, she's more conservative.
tony rock
Yeah, that's not bad.
That's not bad.
joe rogan
Dude, there's not even a close second.
She knocked it out of the park.
That's a legitimate, professional, hot chick who's the first lady.
tony rock
First ever.
unidentified
She's alright.
joe rogan
Save your bickering, sir.
unidentified
She's alright.
joe rogan
Stop this.
tony rock
Michelle Obama was gorgeous.
joe rogan
That's true.
But a different way.
A different way.
What's this?
This is her.
This is her when she was young.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony rock
Michelle was definitely a different gorgeous.
joe rogan
This is a different thing, son.
Look at that body sitting on the couch.
Get the fuck out of Dodge, kid!
unidentified
Come on!
tony rock
Alright, you got it.
You got that.
joe rogan
It's like the beginning of that door song.
Come on!
I mean, come on.
tony rock
That was nice.
joe rogan
That's woof.
That's top of the food chain right there.
tony rock
Apparently she isn't into looks as much.
unidentified
Maybe she just likes the way he treats her.
tony rock
There you go.
joe rogan
It's a strange, strange time, Tony Rock.
You know?
Strange time to be a human being.
tony rock
As a comic, you gotta love it, like you said.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you like living around here?
tony rock
You know what?
I like LA. I don't love it.
It's not like, oh my god.
I'm such a New Yorker.
I'm used to that.
joe rogan
How long have you been living out here now?
tony rock
Ten years?
joe rogan
Ten years.
tony rock
But the first three, I would go home every...
I was here filming a TV show, so every hiatus week I would go home.
And when the show wrapped, I would go on tour, so I wasn't here the whole time.
joe rogan
The people who like New York, especially New York comics, they say that New York comics, it's more harsh.
Like, it's more fun.
Like, people insult each other more.
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's like, there's a camaraderie to that.
tony rock
Way, way more camaraderie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Way more.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Yeah.
I come to LA, it's like, oh, I didn't know we were enemies.
I didn't know we were all against each other.
joe rogan
Oh, do you feel that?
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
tony rock
Yeah.
More so with black comics.
Ooh.
More so with black comics.
Of course, like, you know.
joe rogan
That's unfortunate.
tony rock
I got, unfortunately, I have the brother that everybody's like, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Oh, he's the best.
I know it's his brother.
Fuck that guy.
Yeah.
This guy's regarded as the best and that's his brother?
Fuck him.
He's gonna get passed along.
He doesn't have to work hard.
He's gonna have everything handed to him.
joe rogan
That didn't happen with the Wayans brothers.
Like Keenan and Marlon?
Or Damon rather?
tony rock
Why do you think that is?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Like they did stuff together.
Keenan Ivory Wayans and Damon Wayans.
Like when they were both, they were both famous at the exact same time.
People forget how funny Damon was.
tony rock
Damon's a monster.
joe rogan
Still.
tony rock
Monster.
joe rogan
When I used to see him in the 90s, he had his last stand-up, I think he called it.
He threw the microphone down.
tony rock
Oh, the last stand when he broke the microphone down.
joe rogan
He was like, I'm done.
I'm never doing this again.
That shit is one of my all-time favorite specials.
tony rock
Mike Tyson grabbed his mic.
Mike Tyson grabbed his mic.
joe rogan
I'll bite you.
tony rock
Hilarious.
joe rogan
Tommy Hearn's piece.
Dude, he was so funny.
tony rock
My brother said...
Damon taught him a lot about how to do stand-up.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah.
tony rock
Damon was the man.
He's still the man.
joe rogan
He was a guy who would come in, do late-night spots at the comedy store.
He would just show up, and they'd put him up whenever he got there, and he would just completely explore ideas.
He had no worry about...
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
He wasn't concerned about getting the laugh.
He was working it out on stage 100%.
tony rock
I love seeing it.
I love seeing it.
joe rogan
But he was a famous guy at the time.
This is...
After In Living Color.
tony rock
I see Dave do it all the time.
Whenever I see Dave on stage, Dave is like, I don't fuck this room.
I'm trying to figure this shit out for the show.
joe rogan
Right.
But you also want to entertain the room because they are the show, too.
tony rock
Right.
joe rogan
So Dave is, I think, the best at dancing through that line.
He knows how to create new material better than I think anybody I've ever seen.
tony rock
Have you seen Mark Curry?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah!
tony rock
Mark Curry will go on stage and say, give me a topic and make it a 10-minute bit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
And that shit is impressive.
joe rogan
He is such a nice guy.
I think he is so likable.
Mark Curry is one of the nicest fucking guys.
When he would come to the comedy store, everybody would light up.
He's just so nice.
Always.
Funny, just real relaxed.
tony rock
I like him a lot, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw him do a lot of sets back then, too.
Back when he was doing Hanging with Mr. Cooper, he'd drop in and do that.
I haven't seen him in a long time.
tony rock
I think he's on tour with a cat right now.
joe rogan
He's got a sleeper Bronco.
I think he still has it.
He had this like 1980s black Bronco, but he had it all done up.
tony rock
Like O.J. Bronco?
joe rogan
It was like an O.J. Bronco.
But he had like a...
Engine upgrade in it, suspension upgrade, tires, wheels, the whole deal.
tony rock
Nice.
joe rogan
It was like an urban assault vehicle.
Like a powerful Bronco.
It just looked like an older Bronco that somebody just has on the road.
But meanwhile, this thing is like tuned up.
tony rock
Nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony rock
The classics, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he would drive around that thing.
He had a gang of cars.
I do love cars.
Really nice funny guy.
tony rock
I gotta get some old schools.
I want a Trans Am.
That's what I want.
I want the Smokey and the Bandit Trans Am.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
That's what I want.
joe rogan
What is this?
Oh, that's right.
It died.
It got hit by a tree.
Fuck, that's right.
Did it catch on fire?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
tony rock
This is the Bronco.
joe rogan
That's the Bronco.
jamie vernon
Big storm last year.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Damn.
The storm last year took...
Mark Curry's Bronco.
He loved that thing, man.
That was it.
It was a total sleeper.
That car was a sleeper.
See, that's when you're smart dudes like him, man, they get sleepers.
They like to drive around in a no-notice car.
tony rock
That's how you move around.
You got to move around like that.
Don't bring too much attention.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got to move around.
tony rock
Be able to go wherever you want to go when you want to go, you know?
joe rogan
That's a move, man.
A no-nonsense Bronco.
tony rock
I need an old school.
joe rogan
What kind?
tony rock
I like the pickup trucks, the old, I think it's like a Chevy.
joe rogan
Like 30s or 50s?
tony rock
Like 50s.
The Chevy with the bubble tire covers.
What is that called?
joe rogan
I don't know, but I know what you're talking about.
There's one that a lot of people redo.
There's a very specific Chevy pickup truck.
tony rock
That right there.
Oh, I need that.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
tony rock
I need one of those.
joe rogan
1950 Chevy pickup.
Wow.
It's crazy what they can do to those, too.
I mean, who would have ever thought, if you looked at one of those in the flesh in 1950, that someone would have something like that in 2018?
That looks like something from the movie Cars.
tony rock
It cost what?
$6,000 in 1950?
joe rogan
Did it even cost that much?
Let's guess.
How much did a pickup truck cost in 1950?
I say $1,500.
tony rock
I'm going to say $3,500.
joe rogan
How much did a pickup cost in 1950?
Here we go.
unidentified
drum roll please nothing popped up off the top nothing It might be giving me pricing for now, too, so I'm trying to...
joe rogan
Oh.
Did you write how much did a pickup truck cost?
tony rock
Price of in...
joe rogan
Retail price in 1950. Maybe that's it.
People listening to this are bored out of their fucking mind right now.
Like, do you really care?
Why do you care?
What a pickup truck cost.
tony rock
1950. Are they watching live?
joe rogan
Some people.
tony rock
Hey, what's up?
joe rogan
What's up, people?
There's a slight delay.
tony rock
Nice.
Oh, for curses?
joe rogan
No, just because of the internet.
I think it's too late.
I think we already fucked it up.
How much did it cost?
jamie vernon
$1,243.
joe rogan
$1,200.
Yeah.
$1,243.
$1,243.
That's crazy.
tony rock
Insane.
jamie vernon
Current value, $30,000.
tony rock
Nice.
jamie vernon
Or so.
tony rock
Yeah, I got to get one.
joe rogan
That's what you want.
Why a pickup truck and not a muscle car?
tony rock
No, I want that.
joe rogan
You want that too?
tony rock
I want that Spooky the Bandit first.
joe rogan
Oh, right.
75. I want Spooky the Bandit first.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Of course, I want a Lincoln Continental with the Suicide Doors.
joe rogan
Ooh, you want one of those?
tony rock
I need that.
joe rogan
Wow.
tony rock
Gotta have that.
joe rogan
The Spooky the Bandit, you're gonna have the Firebird on the front and the hood?
Yeah?
unidentified
Absolutely.
Damn.
tony rock
The same one.
I want the Ford Mustang.
joe rogan
Eleanor?
tony rock
Yes.
joe rogan
Ooh, the Gone in 60 Seconds car?
unidentified
Need that.
tony rock
Ooh, that car.
joe rogan
That's one of the best looking cars of all time.
tony rock
Probably the...
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Probably the 66 Corvette.
Beautiful car.
joe rogan
Those are great cars.
unidentified
Beautiful car.
joe rogan
I have a 65 convertible.
tony rock
Do you really?
joe rogan
Yeah, love it.
tony rock
So you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're great cars.
tony rock
Beautiful piece of machinery.
joe rogan
It's a crazy look, right?
The look back there.
tony rock
The top comes off like that right there.
unidentified
Wow.
tony rock
That's one of the most beautiful cars ever made in the world.
joe rogan
Is that a 67, Jamie?
That's what it says?
Yeah.
unidentified
God!
joe rogan
That is incredible.
jamie vernon
Was it called Eleanor before that movie, or did that come from something?
tony rock
I think it came from the movie, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, I think it means something.
I think Eleanor, when you say it backwards, like whatever the acronym is, well, find it.
I think that's what they did.
I think they took some kind of tuner thing, someone's name, and used it backwards.
It's like Roanoke.
Is that it?
I remember very vaguely the story of how they came up with the name Eleanor.
Anyway, see if you can find it.
tony rock
Yeah, definitely need that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
That right there.
joe rogan
It's a dope fucking car.
tony rock
Super dope.
joe rogan
Maybe I'm thinking the opposite.
Maybe what I'm thinking of is someone made a car that's like Eleanor, but they spelled it backwards.
I think that might be it.
jamie vernon
It just says Eleanor is the only Ford One Mach 1 in history to receive a car title credit.
joe rogan
Take the word Eleanor and spell it backwards and Google that.
I think there's a car that they're making where they spell Eleanor backwards.
I think this is where I'm getting it from.
tony rock
The Hyundai Rollie.
The new Hyundai Rollie.
joe rogan
Yeah, what would be Eleanor?
jamie vernon
2005 Ronel Mustang.
joe rogan
Ah, see?
There it is.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
That's where I fucked up.
Yeah, so this is a Mustang that they were spelling Eleanor backwards to make a dope Mustang.
tony rock
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Not bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, not bad for a modern car.
Those are fun.
tony rock
That's nice.
joe rogan
Those are like modern muscle cars.
tony rock
Look at that shit.
That's nice.
joe rogan
Those cars, like that year, like into the 2015s and 16s, when they got rid of the live rear axle somewhere around...
I want to say pretty recently, like 2012 or something like that.
When was the latest Mustang released?
The latest model Mustang?
Before that, they used to have a solid rear axle, like a muscle car.
It handled terrible.
But it was fun.
tony rock
It would go.
joe rogan
But you would stomp on the gas and the thing would go sideways.
It would burn out everywhere.
It was really like having a modern muscle car with anti-lock brakes and a stick shift.
You'd buy it from the factory with 550 horsepower.
Ridiculous car.
Then they got it all the way up to 700 in the last models.
The last models of the GT500 were 700 horsepower.
tony rock
Front wheel.
joe rogan
Rear wheel drive.
tony rock
Wow.
Wow.
700 horsepower rear wheel drive?
joe rogan
That's crazy.
With a solid rear axle.
tony rock
That's insane.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Big crazy rear axle bouncing all over.
Every pothole you hit, the car goes sideways.
Nah.
tony rock
I need that.
I need that, Eleanor.
joe rogan
But apparently that's great, though, those old-school-y muscle cars for gripping the ground.
There's something about having everything all in one fat axle in the back.
Those two black stripes on the asphalt as it goes sideways.
tony rock
Love it.
What did you say you have a 60?
joe rogan
65 Corvette.
tony rock
Man, that's nice.
joe rogan
I love it.
It's an old rumble.
jamie vernon
I believe from what I just read that that car was only made for or maybe even used in that original movie.
And the guy that made it, HB, Toby, Halecki, wrote, starred, and directed that movie.
joe rogan
So it's his car.
It's his car.
But I think they made several versions.
jamie vernon
They had four of them.
joe rogan
Because I saw a video of them selling one of them.
They were selling one of them online.
Yeah, but...
There's a company called Classic Recreations.
They make those now.
tony rock
Oh, you can get a frame?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, they do the whole thing from the beginning out.
And they make you a brand new version of a 1967 Mustang, but with modern engine, modern suspension.
tony rock
How much does something like that cost?
joe rogan
Expensive as fuck.
tony rock
Yeah, I could imagine.
unidentified
Expensive as fuck.
joe rogan
But if you're some rich dude who just, you know, you look at...
tony rock
You just want one.
joe rogan
There's the thing about this, like, flossing, right?
Like, if you have a Lamborghini, you're like, look at this guy's doors go up.
You know, there's something about that, right?
tony rock
The Lamborghini was made for flossing.
joe rogan
Ferrari, same thing.
You pull up, like, look at this motherfucker, making it!
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
But if you pull up in one of those things, that's...
That's a different kind of enjoyment.
That's like you're driving around in an art piece.
Exactly.
tony rock
That's an attention grabber storyteller.
That's like people are just going to stop you.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like an A+. In terms of the impact it has on guys in particular.
See, but girls don't care about that as much.
tony rock
I think chicks will dig that one.
joe rogan
I think that one.
That one's so pretty.
tony rock
Chicks dig the long ball, man.
That's the long ball.
unidentified
That's the long ball!
joe rogan
Chicks dig the long ball.
That's out of the park.
tony rock
That's like, what is that?
You're like, hey, come take a ride.
joe rogan
Yeah, pull that photo up again.
That silver one.
The 1967 silver one that you just had up.
Look at this again.
tony rock
Look at that.
Come on, you pull that up in front of the club?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Jesus Christ, that's pretty.
jamie vernon
Do you know how much the one from the movie sold for at auction?
joe rogan
Let me guess.
$700,000.
tony rock
$4 million.
jamie vernon
$1 million.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
The main one.
joe rogan
From John Wick?
Or from Elgon in 60 Seconds?
In John Wick, that's what it was.
It wasn't the Eleanor one.
I'm remembering wrong.
They were selling one of the Mustangs in the movie, John Wick.
He had a 69...
tony rock
It wasn't an Eleanor, but he had a nice one in the movie.
joe rogan
Right.
He had a 69 that got stolen.
tony rock
Right.
Guy killed his dog and stole the car.
joe rogan
And then he got a 70 Chevelle.
tony rock
Chevelle.
joe rogan
That's another one.
tony rock
Everybody loves a Chevelle.
joe rogan
That's 70 Chevelle, too.
tony rock
Everybody loves a Chevelle, yeah.
joe rogan
That's 70 Chevelle.
It's classic.
tony rock
That's a good one.
That's a classic.
Oh, Impala.
I gotta get an Impala, too.
I need an Impala.
joe rogan
You know what's even more classic than a...
Look at that.
Goddamn, man.
That's a 69. I think that's a Mach 1. Yeah.
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
Look at that.
It makes me faint.
unidentified
That's fucking pretty.
joe rogan
I get weak in the legs when I see a car like that.
I'm like, oh my goodness.
Look at that thing.
That is America.
tony rock
It's like two pieces to that thing.
joe rogan
America!
unidentified
Right?
tony rock
It's like the front.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
Yeah.
They do not drive that good.
They do not.
Because that looks pretty stock.
They do not handle very well.
Nope.
Terrible.
That's another kind Yeah, if you had like a modern Honda Accord, you'll blow that thing off the road.
Like, for real.
That's a goddamn work of art, though.
You pull up in that thing.
tony rock
You take the Honda Accord, I'll take that.
joe rogan
Look at that!
Look how pretty that is.
That might be one of the best looking cars of all time.
tony rock
No, that...
Eleanor is...
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
Top three.
joe rogan
Go to that one in the upper right hand corner, young Jamie.
Look at that fucking thing.
Jesus.
1969 Mach 1. Pow!
Mecca!
Dude, Hendrix was alive when his car was out.
tony rock
That is a sexy vehicle right there.
joe rogan
Hendrix died in 69, right?
You could have been on your way to a goddamn Hendrix concert in that car in 1969. You would be the man.
Can you imagine?
You pick up your girl.
tony rock
Hendrix pulled up to the concert in that.
joe rogan
People, you know, people were just different then.
tony rock
Nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, Hendrix probably would pull up to the concert in that, right?
That'd be a car Hendrix would drive.
tony rock
Kevin's guitar in the passenger seat.
joe rogan
Yeah, I found out there was a house that was for sale that Hendrix almost bought in Topanga Canyon.
I was like, he told me he almost bought it.
It's almost Hendrix.
Does it count?
tony rock
It's almost.
joe rogan
Does it count?
tony rock
He just walked through it like, nah, not this one.
joe rogan
He was apparently on his way to buying it when he died.
What is that?
tony rock
Oh, Stingray.
joe rogan
T-top, son.
Damn.
That's Jimi Hendrix' Corvette.
Holy shit.
See if you find any other pictures of that thing.
tony rock
That's a sexy car.
That shit looked like a shock.
joe rogan
God.
Jimi Hendrix had a baby boom Corvette.
That's just a different one.
But yeah, those are crazy looking.
Go to that other one that was just on that.
unidentified
What the fuck was that?
joe rogan
This is it right here?
So there's only a couple pictures of the car from the top.
jamie vernon
Two Corvettes.
joe rogan
Damn.
He had two Corvettes.
Are those both his back-to-back?
Is that what we're looking at?
Two different ones?
jamie vernon
No, I think it's the same car.
joe rogan
Oh.
Yeah, Jimi Hendrix.
Knew how to live.
Old school, man.
Dinosaur days.
tony rock
Beautiful, beautiful car.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What do you drive, Tony?
tony rock
I have a Cadillac.
joe rogan
Ooh, I like it.
unidentified
I like it.
tony rock
I got a Cadillac.
joe rogan
Which one you got?
tony rock
I got the STS. Mine's old now.
I was actually going to buy a new car in the next couple months.
I don't know what I want.
joe rogan
They have a crazy new sedan coming out.
Which one?
Something V. Some big four-door, super-powered, ultra-comfortable.
tony rock
No, I've been waiting for...
Have you seen the El Mirage?
Can you pull up the Cadillac?
El Mirage.
E-L-M-I-R-A-J. I've been waiting four years for this car.
And every time I go to the auto show, they're like, yeah, it's coming next year.
So I wait, wait, wait.
joe rogan
That sounds like a superhero in a Robert Rodriguez movie.
The El Mirage.
tony rock
Look at this motherfucker.
Four years, Cadillac, I've been waiting for this car.
joe rogan
Whoa.
tony rock
Every auto show.
Yeah, next year.
joe rogan
That is slick.
That's a two-door.
tony rock
Yes.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
tony rock
I've been waiting patiently for this car.
joe rogan
You know, when we were kids, we thought about what cars would look like in the future.
That's what they would look like in the future.
Look at the front end of that thing.
Like the headlights.
Those are crazy.
tony rock
Look at that, man.
joe rogan
That has such a futuristic, like, pause there for that picture and make that a little bit bigger.
That has such a futuristic shape to it.
tony rock
Look at the leather on the inside.
joe rogan
And look at that grille.
Look how that grille integrates.
We're like, this is how girls go with shoes.
Like, oh my god.
Do you see how strappy they are?
tony rock
And you say to your girl, like, I don't get it.
This is it right here.
joe rogan
You're not gonna get it.
It's so strappy.
unidentified
Four years I've been waiting for this car.
joe rogan
Why are you such a Cadillac, dude?
tony rock
My father drove a Cadillac.
It's a tribute to my dad.
joe rogan
I like it.
tony rock
The last car my pops had before he passed away was a burgundy Cadillac.
And I just remember he loved it so much.
And I didn't, you know, growing up in New York, I didn't need a car.
unidentified
Right.
tony rock
So when I moved to LA, I was like, oh shit, I gotta get a car to get around.
I'm like, what am I gonna get?
Tribute to dad.
Cadillac.
joe rogan
I love it.
That's a good move.
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
They make some old school cars too that you could actually get fixed up and drive around.
tony rock
Yes, yes, yes.
joe rogan
Like some 70s Eldorados.
tony rock
I'm going to get an oldie and put it in the hands of a caretaker and let them just fix it up.
joe rogan
Get you one of them.
tony rock
Definitely going to do that.
joe rogan
Two-door Eldorados.
tony rock
Nice, nice.
joe rogan
What color?
What color?
tony rock
I don't know, maybe like a money green?
joe rogan
Ooh!
Ooh, like the Bishop Don Juan.
Didn't he have a money green one?
tony rock
Well, then scratch that.
Well, then scratch that.
We'll go burgundy.
Because I don't want anybody to mistake me for the mission badge.
That's right.
I don't want no girl running up in my car at In-N-Out Burger like, I got your money, daddy.
joe rogan
I like the burgundy.
I like burgundy with a little bit of metallic flake to it.
tony rock
Nice.
Oh, yeah.
That would be nice.
unidentified
Oh, man.
tony rock
That would be nice.
Yes.
joe rogan
All fresh chrome.
tony rock
Gotta do it.
joe rogan
Riding those things, man.
I mean, you gotta respect the fact that it takes a long time to stop those fuckers.
tony rock
All the convertible Eldorado.
unidentified
Whew.
joe rogan
The convertible Eldorado.
Oh!
Look at this!
We're looking at a 76 convertible Eldorado.
Oh my god, what a shape.
What a shape.
That was back when they didn't know what the fuck aerodynamics was.
They're like, what?
tony rock
Oh, that's what we're talking about right there.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
tony rock
Look at that.
joe rogan
What year is that, Jamie?
67?
God.
tony rock
That's nice.
joe rogan
People just drove these enormous boats.
Look at the size of the trunk.
It's crazy.
It's crazy!
tony rock
That trunk can fit like a smart car in it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could easily sleep in that trunk.
No problem.
tony rock
That's nice.
joe rogan
They just went through a period of time where they were making these giant boats.
Like the Suicide Door Continental that you talked about.
tony rock
That's an all-time classic.
joe rogan
All-time classic.
tony rock
Gotta love that.
That's another one of the best cars I've probably ever made.
joe rogan
You know what's another best car I ever made that I would never want to park anywhere?
1968 Charger.
I saw a 1968 Charger all done up.
tony rock
Dukes has it?
joe rogan
It's similar.
Is that year 68 or 69?
One of those years.
Either one of those years is badass.
But those cars, they were just like sharks.
Like big, long boats.
They weren't like...
Like, look at that.
That's not in any way practical in terms of its shape.
Like, it's got to be...
That wind's got to go into that grill in a weird way and probably slows it down.
It's like having a little mini parachute in the front of your hood.
Obviously, I don't know shit about aerodynamics.
tony rock
They didn't know about aerodynamics back then.
joe rogan
Well, I think they knew a little bit.
Go back to that original picture, man.
That original one was beautiful.
Look at that thing.
That's what I'm talking about.
Like, that car just represents a different world.
tony rock
That's Fast and Furious, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, he had one of those, right?
Or similar?
Something similar?
Similar years?
There's something about...
In 1970, it got weird, because then they put the bumper all around the front.
Like a big oval.
You ever see that?
tony rock
No.
On this car?
joe rogan
Yeah, pull up 1970 Charger.
1970 got weird.
Like somebody got crafty.
Look at the front bumper.
tony rock
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
What did you just do?
Hey, hey, come here.
tony rock
That's like, put it back.
joe rogan
Yeah, what did you do?
Put it back.
You had something.
Go to the black one.
Go to the black one right above it.
jamie vernon
Where are the headlights?
joe rogan
Oh, they roll up.
They roll up like a 69 Camaro.
You ever see a 69 Camaro?
tony rock
Yeah, they...
joe rogan
Yeah, they flip.
Yeah, those things flip.
That was like the rage back then, man.
People loved roll-up headlights.
That's a good picture, Jamie, but the other one's better because you could see the...
No, the black one right next to it.
Because you could see the other black...
Yeah, that weren't there.
Because you could see the grille.
Like, make that a little bigger.
Like, look how goofy that is.
unidentified
That's a nice picture.
joe rogan
Look how goofy that grill is.
The bumper and the grill are like, it's got an up bumper and a down bumper.
Like, what are you doing?
Why'd you do that?
Don't do that.
You had it perfect, you fuck.
tony rock
Some guy was like, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Those people were on coke.
It was the 70s.
They were like, you know what was better?
Fucking double bumper.
Let's do it.
Double bumper.
Bumper up top, bumper on the bottom.
It's my thing, bro.
You're going to push that through to the GM? Hey, did you bring up my idea about the double bumper?
Bumper on top, bumper on the bottom.
I'm telling you, man.
It's a fucking move.
It's one guy.
Look at that.
It just doesn't look as good.
It still looks badass, though.
tony rock
It does.
joe rogan
It's still badass.
tony rock
But the original picture was the one.
joe rogan
Yeah, now go to a 1969. 1969's a sweet spot.
That's when they nailed it.
And then they fucked it up.
They should have made the 1969 Charger.
Ooh.
tony rock
Yeah, see, it was Tuks of Hazzard.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was Tuks of Hazzard.
Look at that one, that black one, up on the upper left-hand corner.
Right there.
Upper left.
Yeah, right there.
Look at that.
Oh, my goodness.
What a shape.
Those people just had a different way of looking at automobiles.
They weren't confined by all the safety regulations.
tony rock
What's the spot at Bob's Big Boy in Burbank when they have the cars out of there?
joe rogan
I passed by.
I never stopped in one of those.
I've been to similar things.
I've been to the LA Auto Show, too.
It's pretty interesting.
But I guess those cars and coffees and things, you ever done one of those?
tony rock
No.
joe rogan
I heard those are pretty badass.
People pull up with weird cars.
Jay Leno's always showing up.
tony rock
At Burbank?
joe rogan
Well, they have them all over the place.
They have them in fucking Irvine and all over the place.
tony rock
I gotta check it out.
I do the auto show every year and I ask about the El Mirage and they're like, yeah, next year.
joe rogan
You are just obsessed with Cadillacs.
tony rock
Gotta get it.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
tony rock
Gotta get it.
joe rogan
So no matter how big you get, Cadillacs?
tony rock
No, I'll have other cars, but there's going to be a Caddy somewhere.
joe rogan
But that's your main daily driver, probably.
tony rock
That El Mirage, gotta get it.
joe rogan
I like it, man.
I like it.
It's a different kind of luxury car, and they're really doing it right now, too.
tony rock
Yep.
joe rogan
You know who else is doing it right?
The new Lincoln Navigator.
You see that thing?
tony rock
Gigantic.
joe rogan
The thing is crazy.
tony rock
Big, man.
That thing is big.
joe rogan
It's luxurious.
tony rock
You like it?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've ridden them before.
They're amazing.
tony rock
I got a test drive.
joe rogan
I haven't driven one, but I've ridden as a passenger in one.
I was like, this thing is badass.
tony rock
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
I like the new, well, it's foreign, but that new BMW 7. Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Oof.
tony rock
It's like a couch going down the street.
You just...
joe rogan
Some insane amount of money.
It's like $160,000.
Is it really?
There's one version of it that's the most expensive BMW they've ever made.
And it's supposed to be the most technologically advanced.
tony rock
Nice.
And I like the new Porsche, the four-door.
joe rogan
Panamera.
tony rock
Man.
Nice.
Nice car.
I like it a lot.
unidentified
Yes.
tony rock
I like it a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the difference between living here and living in New York.
Living in New York, so many people don't have cars.
tony rock
You really don't need one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tony rock
If you have a car in New York, it's a luxury.
It's...
Then you have to find parking and you go, fuck this car, man.
My brother Kenny had a car for like a summer.
It was like, man, I got to get up and move it every morning.
And when I go into the city, I got to find parking.
He's like, fuck this, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And when you drive down the street and you see ones with boots on them, people don't...
They don't realize about the blue.
tony rock
Oh, you see the tickets just piled up?
They'll put a ticket on top of a ticket.
joe rogan
Yep.
tony rock
Every day.
In LA, sometimes people say, hey, if you already have a ticket, they won't put another one?
joe rogan
I don't know.
tony rock
In New York, they'll put a ticket on top of a ticket.
So he was just like a summer.
What did he have?
He had a...
joe rogan
That's a different kind of living.
Living with no car, living in the city.
unidentified
He had a Thunderbird.
tony rock
He had a Ford Thunderbird.
It was like a...
joe rogan
Well, older one or a newer one?
tony rock
No, like a 2004. Oh, those were weird.
Yeah.
He's just like, fuck this car, man.
Too many tickets.
joe rogan
You know what's weird?
Like that Thunderbird didn't really totally work, but the Challenger worked perfect.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like the new Challenger?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, people are like, oh, Jesus.
Yeah, you nailed it.
tony rock
You got it right.
joe rogan
But the Thunderbird, people are like, what are we doing here?
Is this an old car?
Is this a new car?
tony rock
We don't know.
Who are we?
joe rogan
Did they stop making that, right?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
They don't make that anymore.
tony rock
Yeah, Chargers was great.
joe rogan
I don't think Ford makes anything other than Mustangs and trucks.
I think they gave up on every single car they made.
tony rock
They're bringing the Bronco back, I know that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tony rock
Bringing the Bronco back.
joe rogan
But I think that was a move they made.
Would you say, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Did they have a Focus or did they stop making that?
joe rogan
I think they decided real recently.
tony rock
We're not counting the Ford Focus, man.
unidentified
Does that count?
tony rock
We just buy real cars.
joe rogan
I think recently they said they're going to cancel every car except the Mustang and they're just going to make trucks.
tony rock
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, somebody went fucking crazy.
Well, I think they'd probably make that Ford GT, too, in limited numbers.
But yeah, I think they're...
tony rock
The Saleen?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a different company that takes a Mustang and then they put an aftermarket kit on it.
tony rock
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's Steve Saleen's company.
They do Corvettes and a bunch of other shit, too.
They do a bunch of different...
It's like Hennessy.
You ever heard of that Hennessy performance?
tony rock
I've heard of Hennessy Performance, but what are we talking about?
joe rogan
Or like Shelby.
They take these cars and they'll do it to an El Dorado.
Not an El Dorado.
They'll do it to Escalade.
They'll do it to Corvettes, Mustangs.
They'll take a regular car and put 1,000 horsepower in it.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
And sell it.
But it's not just a Corvette.
It's a Hennessy Corvette now.
It's like a Saline Mustang.
It's like a Shelby Mustang.
Kind of similar.
But Shelby, they sell from the Ford dealerships.
Some Ford dealerships sell salines.
Some of them do.
You can buy them.
They'll buy a few of them.
tony rock
I thought you meant drunk when I'm drunk in my performance on Hennessy.
joe rogan
Oh, Hennessy.
tony rock
My Hennessy performance.
joe rogan
Ford to stop making all passenger cars.
Except the Mustang.
jamie vernon
They're doing like the Explorer and shit like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, so they're just doing trucks.
Yeah.
And the Bronco.
But that's a dope looking...
tony rock
Are they going to do one car?
That's weird.
joe rogan
That's the bullet car.
That's the tribute to the Steve McQueen movie.
That's what that green car is.
Look at that thing.
Damn.
That is gorgeous.
tony rock
Great movie, by the way.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is a great movie.
They nailed it, though.
See, Ford nailed it with these Mustangs.
They figured out a perfect way to make a shape that makes you think about old cars but looks like a new car.
tony rock
What do they call it?
An ode to the past?
joe rogan
Yes, an ode to the past.
tony rock
That's nice.
joe rogan
Young Tony Rock.
Tony, I'm going to wrap this up.
We just talked about Cars for the last time.
I hope we didn't bore the shit out of you people.
tony rock
Sorry, sorry.
joe rogan
But people, please, go see Tony Rock.
No bullshit.
You're one of the funniest guys alive.
I'm a big fan.
tony rock
Kansas City Improv this weekend.
Is this live, right?
So Kansas City Improv.
joe rogan
Kansas City Improv this weekend.
TonyRock.com.
tony rock
TonyRockComedy.com.
joe rogan
Tony underscore Rock on Instagram.
Whoever is camping on the Tony Rock name, give it up.
tony rock
Somebody won't give it up.
joe rogan
Is it a real Tony Rock?
Is his name Tony Rock?
tony rock
I doubt it.
I think there's only one.
joe rogan
Anyway, man.
unidentified
Thank you so much, man.
tony rock
Pleasure, bro.
joe rogan
Appreciate it.
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