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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - October 21, 2017
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brendan schaub
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eddie bravo
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joe rogan
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unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
And we're live.
Fight Companion.
Eddie motherfucking Bravo.
eddie bravo
Yo, yo, yo.
joe rogan
Brandon motherfucking Sharp.
We're here.
Fight Companion.
Darren Till versus Donald Cowboy Cerrone is the main event.
And EBI tomorrow.
Eddie Bravo.
Invitational Jiu Jitsu Tournament.
unidentified
Where's that?
eddie bravo
It's tomorrow.
joe rogan
Is it at the Orpheum again?
eddie bravo
At the Orpheum downtown LA, you can get tickets at ebiofficial.com.
You can watch it on UFC Fight Pass.
brendan schaub
And you also have a choice now to watch it on pay-per-view at inchbyinch.tv.
unidentified
That's cool.
brendan schaub
That's a great venue too, man.
unidentified
That's a good move.
joe rogan
So if you don't have Fight Pass, you can still get it.
eddie bravo
Yep, that's my company.
joe rogan
But if you don't have Fight Pass, you should get Fight Pass.
Fight Pass is the shit.
And we're watching this fight on Fight Pass right now.
And I'm not just saying Fight Pass is the shit because I'm a UFC employee.
If you're a fan of the sport, there's fucking everything on Fight Pass.
You will go down a goddamn rabbit hole.
brendan schaub
Pride fights.
unidentified
Everything.
brendan schaub
Strike force.
joe rogan
Everything.
You can watch so many fights.
unidentified
Invicta.
joe rogan
And there's also a bunch of organizations that you never heard of before that have awesome fights.
brendan schaub
Titan.
eddie bravo
Just the fact that you can watch any UFC fight ever, just that alone is worth it.
joe rogan
It's an amazing library.
eddie bravo
Just that alone.
Just boom, you can just remember that fight, boom, you can watch it.
Remember that fight, boom, you can watch it.
brendan schaub
On demand, son.
joe rogan
And the pride fights.
brendan schaub
Pride fights, that's what I like.
eddie bravo
That alone, it doesn't even need anything else.
joe rogan
We should do some fight companions for old pride fights.
brendan schaub
The best fights of all time.
joe rogan
Cro Cop vs.
Fedor.
brendan schaub
Vanderlei.
joe rogan
Nog vs.
Fedor.
Bob Sapp.
Bob Sapp, Noguera.
eddie bravo
My question is, how long after UFC do they put the individual fights on Fight Pass?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
brendan schaub
You're saying until they upload them?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people on this.
eddie bravo
How long before we can see this fight on Fight Pass?
brendan schaub
Well, this better be a classic, son.
joe rogan
This is on Fight Pass right now.
eddie bravo
No, no, I mean archived.
joe rogan
Oh, it'll be archived right afterwards.
eddie bravo
You think so?
How long does it take?
joe rogan
100%.
It's right afterwards.
brendan schaub
Just uploads right away?
eddie bravo
I don't think so.
Because I've tried to check fights out that just happened and they weren't up.
joe rogan
Maybe they were Fox fights.
If it's FX or Fox Sports 1 or Fox Sports 2, they own those.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
Or Fox, they own those.
eddie bravo
They can't put those on Fight Pass?
joe rogan
I don't know, but I don't think so.
eddie bravo
No way can Fox own it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think they do.
brendan schaub
That's part of the deal, son.
You don't pay all that money.
joe rogan
That's why they pay fuckloads of money.
They don't want to pay fuckloads of money so you can just not have Fox and just watch it on Fight Pass.
I mean, they should own it.
I mean, they're paying for it.
eddie bravo
Yeah, but what are they doing with it?
They ain't doing shit.
joe rogan
They replay them all the time.
They replay...
brendan schaub
Last night was Cain Velasquez versus Bigfoot.
And I watched that.
eddie bravo
Damn, they're starting to replay them on Fox.
joe rogan
I have it on my DVR. Not because I'm cool or I'm a hipster.
eddie bravo
Only because I'm too lazy to...
joe rogan
You're too lazy to turn on the TV. I have UFC Fight Night on the DVR, like, automatically set to record, and it always is recording old fights.
Always.
brendan schaub
Super old school ones.
joe rogan
Constantly.
So anything that's been on fight, on FS1 or any Fox venue?
brendan schaub
Bro, I have FS1, Fox, Spike, Bellator.
I have fucking AXS TV fights on that bitch.
Everything, man.
Foxing.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love AXS TV. I love Lion Fight.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Lion Fight.
They got some fucking amazing Muay Thai.
brendan schaub
I have some PBC boxing on there and shit.
I have everything.
joe rogan
So these dudes who are fighting right now, Pichota and Wilson.
I'm assuming Pichota's the guy in the red and, yeah, the little thing on the bottom.
That Wilson dude has a sick left kick, man.
He's throwing some nasty hard left kicks to the body.
But I don't know these dudes.
brendan schaub
I heard there were some good fights on the prelims.
Artem Lobov I heard was good.
Do you know who won that, Jamie?
Do you guys know?
joe rogan
No.
Who did he fight?
brendan schaub
I don't know, but he got head kicked.
joe rogan
Artem did?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
He lost?
I'm not sure, but Conor was there, and he was trying to corner him, and the ref had to stop the fight.
joe rogan
Andre Feely.
brendan schaub
Why?
joe rogan
Why did the ref have to stop the fight?
brendan schaub
Because Conor was an official corner man and was yelling out instructions, and the ref was like, hold up.
You gotta chill, man.
Be professional.
And Conor was like, my bad.
My bad.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't yell out from your outside of the cage?
brendan schaub
Well, he was cage side, and he walked up to the cage and was yelling instructions.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
brendan schaub
So homeboy was like, yo, you're not an official cornerman.
You only get three, not four, unless it's a title fight.
joe rogan
So he was too close.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it was a distraction.
He was like, you gotta chill, man.
unidentified
Oh, I see.
joe rogan
That's a good rule.
That really is a good rule.
brendan schaub
That's a great rule.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't have crowds of dudes that are your friends yelling, calling you a faggot.
brendan schaub
There you go.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at him.
brendan schaub
Look at this.
joe rogan
I mean, he just shows up everywhere with cufflinks and a beautiful suit.
eddie bravo
He's just walking around like he owns the place.
brendan schaub
Well, because he does.
Well, because he does.
joe rogan
He puts his hands at me.
It's Mark Goddard, too.
Mark Goddard's a motherfucker.
brendan schaub
He is a motherfucker.
joe rogan
He's not taking any bullshit.
Oh, this dude's got the choke.
Oh.
Standing rear naked.
So I watched Bellator last night.
brendan schaub
Right.
joe rogan
What is that dude, that Gracie dude?
Hall's son?
Hall's son?
Do you know who he is?
brendan schaub
Yes, I interviewed him.
joe rogan
Neiman Gracie.
brendan schaub
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
Bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
Bad motherfucker.
joe rogan
Some serious jiu-jitsu.
brendan schaub
Chokes some dudes out.
How about that neck break?
joe rogan
7-0.
Yeah, 7-0.
7 submissions.
He's a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
What's his name?
joe rogan
Neiman Gracie.
eddie bravo
And who's his father?
joe rogan
Halls.
How do you say it?
eddie bravo
The Halls that died in a hand glider accident?
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy.
brendan schaub
Dude, you should have seen this neck crank, Eddie.
I thought he was going to break this motherfucker's neck.
That dude looked every bit of 44, but I guess he's only 32 and has gray hair.
joe rogan
The guy he fought?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he looks like Luke Thomas, but with gray hair.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Not young, son.
joe rogan
Well, he had gray hair.
But if you take away the gray hair, he didn't look old at all.
unidentified
I can't take away the gray hair.
joe rogan
But he's ripped and looked good.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
Good defense, too, man.
He had him on his back the whole first round and fought him off.
But then Neiman switched it to a neck crank.
brendan schaub
It looked like it hurt so bad.
eddie bravo
Are you going to sink this?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
There it is right there.
No, that's not it.
brendan schaub
That was his fight at Madison Square Garden.
He won that one.
joe rogan
He won that one by Choke, too.
Last night, he had the dude's neck sideways.
brendan schaub
It looked like it hurt so bad.
Mousasi didn't look great, bro.
joe rogan
So to sync this up, we're at 25 seconds of the first round.
23, 22, 21, and Pechota, I don't know how to say his name, is on the back of Wilson.
brendan schaub
He's getting worked.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
He's got the choke.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
It's over.
Oh, shit.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Not much time.
Not much time.
I think he can hang on.
brendan schaub
Chin's tucked.
Oh, it's on to the chin.
Oh, powerful.
joe rogan
He's going to hang on.
eddie bravo
He's out.
brendan schaub
He's good.
eddie bravo
Damn.
joe rogan
He missed the bell.
brendan schaub
But last night in Bellator, Musashi looked lethargic, man.
joe rogan
I had to take off.
I had to go to the comedy store.
I missed that.
brendan schaub
You didn't see it?
joe rogan
I missed that.
brendan schaub
He definitely won the first round, but then Shemenko?
joe rogan
Yeah, no.
brendan schaub
It's a tough one.
joe rogan
No, what is his name?
brendan schaub
What's his name?
Shilmenko, right?
joe rogan
Shilmenko?
Shilmenko, yeah.
brendan schaub
He hit him with an overhand left and closed up his right eye, like his whole right eye couldn't fucking see.
And then the second, I thought Shilmenko won the second round in the third, but they gave it to Musashi.
Really?
Musashi did not look like a world beater.
joe rogan
No shit.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Maybe the UFC got rid of him just in time.
It's too bad because against Chris Weidman, he looks like a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
See, I don't think it's that, Joe.
I don't think Bellator gets enough respect.
Their guys are fucking tough at the top level.
joe rogan
That's true.
brendan schaub
Shomenko hasn't lost a fight in how long?
He hasn't spent for steroids, but he's won like six in a row.
He's a motherfucker, man.
joe rogan
He is a motherfucker.
Did you see when he knocked out Melvin?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that eye.
Boom.
unidentified
Boom.
joe rogan
Bellator is going to be a tough going for everybody.
I think that's true.
I think that's true.
And that also highlights how fucking good Rory McDonald actually is.
brendan schaub
Look at Larkin.
Not doing well.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, Lorenz got KO'd by Paul Daly.
You know, when you stand in front of Paul Daly, Paul Daly throws fucking bombs.
That left hand is just a ridiculous weapon.
brendan schaub
Well, look at Ben Henderson.
He's struggling.
joe rogan
Ben Henderson was on the downside.
He was on the downside when he went there, though.
brendan schaub
True, but there's Struggle City.
That's just rough.
joe rogan
He fucked up by trying to go 170. That was not a good move.
brendan schaub
And the guy who fought, nightmare.
joe rogan
Phil Davis did well, but Ryan Bader beat him.
Ryan Bader, who was probably never going to be the champ in the UFC light heavyweight division.
brendan schaub
Now you never know.
joe rogan
Now you never know.
But with John Jones in...
He was really not.
It wasn't good.
brendan schaub
That's everyone, though.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Nobody can get that title if John was there.
joe rogan
You know, you gotta wonder, man.
You gotta wonder what the fuck actually happened when it came to this steroid stuff.
As I talked to Nowitzki, a lot of these websites were posting that if John Jones could provide a supplement that had that stuff in it, he wouldn't get a suspension.
It is possible that he wouldn't get a suspension.
Nowitzki said they just totally took me out of context.
That's not what I said at all.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I listened to his interview.
joe rogan
What he was actually saying is it is possible to have tainted supplements, and people have proven in the past that there's something in a supplement.
And if you can prove that you took it completely accidentally, which guys have.
You know who did that is Tim Means.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the dirty bird.
joe rogan
But he got suspended for a few months even though.
brendan schaub
But a few months for John would be a win.
joe rogan
Yeah, that wouldn't be shit.
brendan schaub
But with his history, it's tough to believe.
joe rogan
I want to believe it, man.
I want to believe, too.
brendan schaub
So bad.
I want him back so bad, and I think the UFC needs him so, so bad.
joe rogan
Oh, they need him so bad right now.
brendan schaub
What are you excited for these days?
Go ahead, Eddie.
eddie bravo
I finally saw that documentary, Icarus.
joe rogan
Oh, it's fucking amazing.
eddie bravo
Holy shit, right?
joe rogan
Fucking amazing, right?
brendan schaub
That's the Russian doping?
unidentified
Yes.
eddie bravo
If you didn't know anything about that movie, and let's say Alex Jones said, the Russians, they're sneaking in the laboratories.
joe rogan
They're sneaking in the laboratories in the middle of that.
unidentified
In the middle of the line, they're switching the urine, the A's and the B's.
eddie bravo
I'm telling you, I know this.
I have inside sources.
joe rogan
You'd be like, how could they do that?
It's impossible.
eddie bravo
Yes.
brendan schaub
I'd believe that.
eddie bravo
Dude, that would be the end of Alex Jones right there.
unidentified
No, you went too far.
joe rogan
Enough.
unidentified
You went too far.
Sandy Hook shit.
Well, maybe.
joe rogan
But this is enough.
unidentified
The Russians.
eddie bravo
It sounds so crazy that they were like breaking into the offices, switching the pisses on Well, they did it in Russia, though.
joe rogan
It was in Sochi.
They won 13 gold medals.
They had a record number of gold medals.
Everyone was dirty.
The dude said everyone was dirty.
That guy's in serious hiding right now.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, he is.
joe rogan
They got him tucked away.
brendan schaub
And homeboy was worried about him, right?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he was saying he's had depression before and then now he's tried to commit suicide before.
eddie bravo
When that scandal first broke out in Russia, when he was freaking out, he was in Russia and he was on the phone going, dude, they're going to kill me because I need to point a ticket out of here.
I was shocked that he was able to leave the country.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Wouldn't you think that they would have someone on his ass?
joe rogan
Well, Brian Fogel, who's the director of it, was on my podcast, and he explained to me how they didn't think that he was a flight risk, because he was such the mastermind of the program.
They never thought that he was going to take off.
There's a bunch of reasons why he cited on the podcast, and I can't totally recall why they didn't think that he was going to take off, but obviously they fucked that one up.
brendan schaub
Super fucked up.
He was all, see ya.
joe rogan
Well, you know what's crazy, dude, how WADA, the World Anti-Doping Agency, and the International Olympic Committee are all in bed together.
They're not policing each other.
WADA's not policing the IOC. It's bullshit.
That's why they let the Russians in.
Even though they knew the Russians cheated in Sochi, they had irrefutable proof that they cheated.
Like, all the stuff that you see in that Netflix documentary, Icarus, is 100% true.
They still let them compete in Rio.
All they did is they threw them a bone.
They said, yeah, we're going to take out the track and field team.
This track and field team has to go.
So they took the track and field team out.
They left wrestling, gymnastics, all these other dirty, dirty, dirty athletes.
eddie bravo
Russia probably said, hey, listen, guys, if you guys have my back, We're going to go after you.
Because everybody's doing it.
joe rogan
Everybody's doing it.
brendan schaub
We're going to go after you guys.
joe rogan
China's 100% doing it.
brendan schaub
They've already been busted a little bit though.
eddie bravo
You don't think the American Olympians are on steroids?
brendan schaub
How dare you?
How dare you?
eddie bravo
Come on.
joe rogan
100%.
100%.
All of them?
eddie bravo
It's impossible to be...
brendan schaub
Like Russia?
joe rogan
No, not like Russia because it's not state-sponsored, but if you don't think a lot of them are on it, the amount of money that you can...
Brian was explaining this.
Think about someone like Phelps, right?
Michael Phelps, because he won, because he won the gold medal, you know, how many gold medals he won?
A shitload, right?
brendan schaub
Most ever.
joe rogan
That guy is a huge celebrity.
He's wealthy.
Whose phone is that?
eddie bravo
That's the Russian hack on Eddie's phone.
That's Brendan's.
joe rogan
The Russians.
brendan schaub
The Russians got Eddie.
joe rogan
So because of that, that guy makes fucking millions of dollars a year.
But now go to the silver medalist.
Who's that guy?
Who the fuck's that guy?
brendan schaub
Ryan Lockheed.
joe rogan
But who is he?
No one knows.
brendan schaub
He's a liar with blue hair.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
That's the guy that got busted in Rio pretending that they were robbing him.
brendan schaub
And he had white jeans on?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was like, the police had me at gunpoint.
You broke a bathroom door, you piece of shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he was like, they had me at gunpoint.
They told me to get on the floor.
And I said, fucking make me.
And then they're like, bro, you had white jeans on.
If you got on the ground, why aren't they dirty at all?
He's like...
I don't know.
joe rogan
Clean ground.
unidentified
You know, Brazil's known for its clean floors.
Now he's just the, like, fucking biggest laughingstock of all time.
joe rogan
He's just a big old liar, man.
eddie bravo
Is it possible to win the 100 meters without being on juice?
joe rogan
You know, that guy, Victor Conte from the Balco scandal, that guy that hooked up Barry Bonds and all those people with the indetectable stuff.
brendan schaub
The ultimate snitch of all time.
joe rogan
Yeah, the ultimate snitch.
Because he got out of jail and then immediately started snitching away.
brendan schaub
On everybody.
joe rogan
Snitch, snitch.
He says the entire track and field sport is a dirty sport.
He said all of them.
He's like, think about Jamaica.
Jamaica wins all these gold medals.
He's like, what's going on?
Why are they winning all these gold medals?
Like, what's happening?
He said, let's tell you what's happening.
They have a very sophisticated drug program.
eddie bravo
Jamaica?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Like, they're not known for being, they've never been known for being sprinters.
Like, that's not their thing.
It's kind of new that that's their thing.
And they're the best ever at it.
Do we just think it's the fucking plantation?
Like, what do you think it is?
The bananas?
What the fuck do you think they're eating?
joe rogan
One of the things that Fogle pointed out is, like, we remember when Ben Johnson got tested positive when he actually raced against Carl Lewis.
Remember that?
He was the big deal.
He was super jacked.
brendan schaub
Jacked.
Gold chain.
joe rogan
Apparently, Carl Lewis tested positive, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're all doing it.
joe rogan
They all were tested positive.
It's just that Ben Johnson's levels were so off the fucking charts.
They were like, Jesus.
But that was the first year they were testing.
brendan schaub
It's like Pride Days, man.
1984. It's like Pride Days.
joe rogan
Yeah, like Pride Days.
And that makes you think, I hate to say this, but it really makes you think about Fedor.
There's Ben Johnson.
Back in the day, son.
That's a good picture, but get a picture of him mid-sprint, Jamie.
You can see how fucking jackamified he was.
He was so fucking fast.
brendan schaub
Look at that.
He looks like an NFL running back.
joe rogan
He's so big.
He was so big for a track and field guy.
brendan schaub
Carl Lewis looks like he has AIDS back there.
Look at how jacked Ben Johnson is.
joe rogan
He looks like Malvin Manhoff.
That's what he looks like.
Like that kind of build.
brendan schaub
Take Adrian Peterson.
joe rogan
So these...
eddie bravo
He's crushing those guys.
joe rogan
These guys are all...
But they're all on something.
Every one of them's on something.
brendan schaub
How come no white guy's got to hold some good shit?
joe rogan
Go to that one.
Go to that one.
The one above.
Jesus Christ.
Or Brock.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
The left hand in the fucking...
In the 100-meter dash.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
White guy's just not our thing.
joe rogan
It's not our thing.
brendan schaub
Even if we get juice to the gills?
joe rogan
It's not our thing.
unidentified
That's...
eddie bravo
Where's the white steroids?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not...
brendan schaub
White guys aren't willing to go that deep.
I don't know what it is.
We gotta go full Bane.
joe rogan
I wonder what it is.
brendan schaub
Look at his eyes, first of all.
What the fuck was he taking where his eyes turned yellow?
joe rogan
That's what they had said, that his liver was struggling to deal with all the steroids in his system, and it was making the whites of his eyes yellow.
brendan schaub
Damn, he'd still beat the record with that Timex watch on?
That's some powerful shit!
eddie bravo
Look at that shit!
joe rogan
Why, is it the Timex slow you down?
brendan schaub
The heavy-ass basic watch?
joe rogan
That's a light-ass watch!
brendan schaub
Who spreads in that, though?
joe rogan
But that wouldn't really hold you back.
brendan schaub
You're talking aerodynamics, my man!
joe rogan
Not a bad point.
brendan schaub
And the gold chain?
The fucking Rick Ross gold chain?
joe rogan
The gold chain's a big one.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm so juiced up.
eddie bravo
His coaches try to have an intervention and say, dude, it's the Olympics, bro.
brendan schaub
Can you ditch the chain?
joe rogan
No, bitches like gold.
I know bitches, and I know gold.
brendan schaub
The powerful G-Shock watch in the Olympics?
Are you shitting me, sir?
unidentified
G-Shock?
Look at that fucking thing.
joe rogan
He does have yellow eyes, man.
He looks like a leopard.
Like, he's ready to leap on you.
brendan schaub
And no one said anything like, bro, your eyes and that watch are a complete giveaway, my man.
joe rogan
What's going on with your eyes?
eddie bravo
Is he winning now?
brendan schaub
He's the fastest of all time for second.
eddie bravo
Who's that guy?
brendan schaub
Ben Johnson.
eddie bravo
Oh, that's Ben Johnson?
joe rogan
Yeah.
For a while, he was lighting everybody on fire.
eddie bravo
Didn't Usain Bolt beat him?
joe rogan
Maybe, yeah.
Is that Ben Johnson there?
unidentified
Jacked!
brendan schaub
No, Usain Bolt was another time.
unidentified
Jacked!
eddie bravo
So who are the fastest guys of all time?
brendan schaub
Who's the oldest?
eddie bravo
Carl Lewis, Bolt.
joe rogan
Is he number one ever?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Usain Bolt has the fastest time of all time.
eddie bravo
And then Ben Johnson, Bolt, Carl Lewis.
How many sprinters can you name?
joe rogan
Well, Usain Bolt...
brendan schaub
Marion Jones from Females, but again, she came out...
She snitched on herself.
You ever seen a snitch on yourself?
joe rogan
What?
Why'd she snitch on herself?
brendan schaub
Because I think there were some rumors, and she was like, I can't handle this anymore.
I was juiced to the gills.
I got a dick.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
eddie bravo
All-time fastest.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Usain Bolt, Usain Bolt, Usain Bolt, Tyson Gay.
brendan schaub
Oh, Justin Gatlin, Tyson Gay.
I know those.
joe rogan
That's a rough name.
It's a rough name, Tyson Gay.
brendan schaub
There ain't a white guy in fucking...
unidentified
No, not anywhere on that list.
joe rogan
Wow, look how far down you gotta go to get to somebody you know.
Usain Bolt, number 34. Like, Maurice Green, like, when do you get down to Ben Johnson?
Do they have him on there, or do they take it off?
eddie bravo
Yeah, they took him off.
brendan schaub
Ooh, Christian Coleman, I bet that's the white fella.
joe rogan
They shouldn't take him off.
I mean, if you want to punish him, punish him, but you can't take him off.
It's like what they did with the Tour de France.
They took all the ones that Lance Armstrong won.
They're...
They removed him as the winner.
He won like eight times.
But everybody was dirty.
brendan schaub
They had to go down to 15th place to find a guy.
I think it was 18. Was it 18?
joe rogan
18 was 18th place.
Well, how about in the MOB? Find a guy who didn't test positive.
unidentified
I know.
brendan schaub
How about Major League Baseball?
Like, no, Barry Bonds can't be in the Hall of Fame because you got tested positive.
So stupid.
Who the fuck do you think was throwing the pitches?
They're juiced to the gills too, you fucks.
joe rogan
And what happens with, like, Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire?
brendan schaub
Well, have you seen Sammy Sosa?
That's how that works out.
unidentified
Triangle.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a good one, too.
brendan schaub
Great angle.
joe rogan
Ooh, he locked that up nice.
eddie bravo
Professional triangle right there.
He knew exactly what he was doing.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's pretty deep.
unidentified
It took a while to cinch it in, but he was relentless with it.
Oh, he's got that.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's an arm, too.
eddie bravo
It's a wrap.
Oh, no, he's out.
Oh, there it is.
brendan schaub
Oh, the round's over?
eddie bravo
No way!
brendan schaub
Tight move.
joe rogan
Is that the end of the round?
brendan schaub
I think that's why I went for that arm bar.
Wait, did he tap?
That armbar really wasn't in, was it?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Oh, the ring, the stools.
eddie bravo
Damn, that was a good ending.
joe rogan
Oh, so it was the end of the round?
brendan schaub
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
So we got one more round.
brendan schaub
But if you want to see what happens when you don't make the Hall of Fame, have you seen Sammy Sosa lately?
joe rogan
Why is the referee checking his eyes?
Oh, he took some punches when he was down.
Yeah, I've seen Sammy Sosa lately.
Something went crazy and became a white guy.
brendan schaub
Crazy?
eddie bravo
Yeah, he just went from the back to a triangle, dude.
That's totally pro.
joe rogan
This guy's really good.
Oh, dude, he fucked him up with that right hand.
eddie bravo
This guy's good.
brendan schaub
Dude, Sammy Sosa's a different human being.
I need to acknowledge this.
joe rogan
What did he do?
eddie bravo
Look at his skin!
He looks like Michael Jackson!
joe rogan
Yeah, what happened?
eddie bravo
What the fuck?
brendan schaub
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
Did he talk about it?
brendan schaub
Has he talked about it, Jamie?
It looks like he just went, fuck it, I want to be white.
Dude, go to the one in the pink hat.
Go to the pink hat, sir.
joe rogan
Okay, that's really what?
brendan schaub
He used to be the greatest baseball player of all time for a second.
That's what happens when we don't like gays on the Hall of Fame.
joe rogan
Well, he might have fucked his body up with all the steroids.
brendan schaub
Is he open?
unidentified
Is he gay?
joe rogan
Are you saying he's gay?
Is that what you said?
unidentified
Is he open?
joe rogan
That's what happened when you don't like gays in the Hall of Fame?
Is that what you just said?
brendan schaub
I definitely didn't say that.
I don't think he's gay.
I think Sammy Sosa still lays pipe, even though he's white now.
joe rogan
I thought we both heard gay.
unidentified
No, fuck no.
brendan schaub
He just said, is he gay?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
I heard you said gay.
eddie bravo
No way!
You said gay.
unidentified
No, I did not say gay.
You said you said gay, brother.
joe rogan
First of all, let's just be real clear.
None of us have a problem with gay people.
eddie bravo
I love gay people.
unidentified
Hell no.
joe rogan
Love gay people.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
I'm 10% gay.
joe rogan
So if he's wearing a pink hat because he's gay, I'm cool with it.
brendan schaub
I own pink shoes.
I don't give a fuck.
unidentified
What's cooler than a guy sucking a dick?
joe rogan
Look at this, though.
Yeah, what happened?
So what does he say happened to him?
Like, because it's weird.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he just...
joe rogan
Okay, that's a white guy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's crazy.
And he was super dark.
joe rogan
He was dark.
eddie bravo
Maybe that was a tan.
Maybe he got into tanning.
brendan schaub
No, no, no.
Everything's changed.
joe rogan
You know what?
There is cream.
There is cream that some women do use to lighten their skin.
This fight is over.
What happened?
brendan schaub
He admits he bleaches his skin.
joe rogan
Oh, he admitted he bleaches his skin.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
What?
joe rogan
That's weird.
brendan schaub
I wonder why he wants to do that.
joe rogan
Dude, that's really popular.
eddie bravo
That's the second Michael Jackson.
joe rogan
No, no, no, because Michael Jackson had what I have.
brendan schaub
He has a condition, yeah.
eddie bravo
But he did bleach his skin, though.
joe rogan
He did bleach his skin to even out skin tone.
Yeah, but that's not what Sammy Sosa's doing.
Sammy Sosa just decided to be able to wipe out.
brendan schaub
He wants to be white.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
People have done that before, man.
eddie bravo
Maybe Michael Jackson just wanted to be white, but he used that as an excuse.
brendan schaub
No, he legit had like a skin thing and it started to spread and he's like, fuck, I don't want to look like this and just went full spectrum.
Have you seen some models who have it?
They're gorgeous.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And they just rock it.
joe rogan
That black chick.
brendan schaub
I think it's sexy as fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, Winnie Harlow I think her name is.
brendan schaub
I call them the zebra models.
They're sexy as fuck.
They got like a cool look.
eddie bravo
Can we see them, Jamie?
joe rogan
Zebra models?
brendan schaub
No, there's a few.
Well, I call them zebra models.
joe rogan
Here's the triangle, right?
But this is not the end of the fight.
How did this fight end?
eddie bravo
Maybe he gave up in the corner.
joe rogan
I think that was the last round.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think that was the third round.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I went to decision.
Homeboy one.
joe rogan
We're doing the worst job of paying attention to this fight.
unidentified
Dan Hardy with a beautiful green jacket.
brendan schaub
Powerful Joker colors.
joe rogan
Um...
So Sammy Sosa just decided to be white.
brendan schaub
Just fuck it.
joe rogan
Say enough of this.
brendan schaub
Now can a white guy go black?
joe rogan
No.
I mean, you can be a tanner.
You've seen how tan Tate gets?
brendan schaub
Yeah, but he looks Indian.
joe rogan
Tate did a movie in Tahiti.
Well, you don't get black features.
brendan schaub
Well, no, but you don't get black skin.
You get, like, tan.
joe rogan
You get super dark.
Tate got so fucking dark, man.
brendan schaub
No, bro.
I'm talking about going straight blackface.
Like, can you go blackface?
eddie bravo
No, there was Maurice Povich.
joe rogan
Maurice Povich?
eddie bravo
What's his name?
Maurice?
brendan schaub
Maurice?
If Maurice went black, he'd be Maurice.
unidentified
Exactly.
brendan schaub
No, in Maurice Povich, there was a girl, some white girl who wants to be black.
eddie bravo
Have you seen this?
brendan schaub
Oh, the Catch Me Outside girl?
eddie bravo
No, no, no, no, no, no.
She really wants to be black.
It's a white woman who...
And the audience is all black and they fucking can't stand her.
And they're just burying her.
brendan schaub
Oh, is that the homegirl who got fired from her job?
joe rogan
Look at this, what Sammy Sosa says.
What happened was that I had been using the cream for a long time and that combined with the bright TV lights made my face look whiter than it really is.
I don't think I look like Michael Jackson, he added.
Apparently Sosa...
Has kept up his use of the cream over the years, which has led him to appear even whiter than he did in 2009. So he's been just getting whiter and whiter and whiter.
Okay, go higher there.
It's a bleaching cream that I apply before going to bed and whitens my skin tone, Sosa said during appearance at Univision, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
It's a cream that I have that I use to soften my skin, but it has bleached me some.
I'm not a racist.
I live my life happily.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
Bleached me some.
Sir, you are completely a white man now.
joe rogan
Bleached me some?
I'm not a racist.
Maybe there was a super racist white chick that he was trying to fuck, and he's like, there's only one way.
unidentified
You never go full white, unless she was just bad.
joe rogan
She just was like, Tennessee racist, but with big old titties.
Big, plump, pink titties.
brendan schaub
Now he's just fucked.
joe rogan
Tiny little waist.
eddie bravo
He says it like it's no...
I just put on a bleaching cream.
I just put on a bleaching cream.
It's no big deal.
I put a little bit on before I go to sleep at night.
It's a little bleaching cream.
joe rogan
What's the big deal?
eddie bravo
He's like, I don't see what the problem is.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, he said he's even lighter than he was in 2009. I mean, he's talking about something that happened eight years ago.
He's lighter than that now.
brendan schaub
He's also a little mentally unstable because he also has white man hair now.
He's like the straight white, like...
joe rogan
Oh, look at Tate.
Look how goddamn dark Tate got.
Jesus Christ.
Tate's a savage.
Look at him underwears, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
I mean, he's tan, but you wouldn't confuse him for being black.
joe rogan
Well, you would if he had black features and black hair.
brendan schaub
No.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
If he had an afro, you would say that's a light-skinned black guy.
brendan schaub
You think?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
100%.
Look how dark he is.
Go back to that picture again.
Look at that.
He has dark as fuck.
eddie bravo
If we get Photoshop Steve to put a jerry curl on him.
joe rogan
He's probably already on it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's probably already doing it.
They'll probably all be black by the end of this.
joe rogan
My favorite meme online is that one black dude is going like this.
unidentified
If you think about it...
brendan schaub
It looks like the Reading Rainbow guy.
I don't know who that guy is.
joe rogan
Derek Brunson.
brendan schaub
Cheetah's back!
joe rogan
Yeah, against Derek Brunson.
brendan schaub
He's been out for a minute.
joe rogan
You can't get cheetah if you don't get into a relationship.
unidentified
He looks like Ben Johnson a little bit.
joe rogan
There's an animated gif of him doing it, too.
It's even better.
eddie bravo
An animated one?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
I haven't seen that one.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a part of an animated gif.
eddie bravo
I like the clown in the sewer.
brendan schaub
That shit is hilarious.
eddie bravo
He could use that for so long.
joe rogan
There he is.
That's the animated one.
brendan schaub
Who is this?
Just some dude.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
brendan schaub
It's hilarious.
eddie bravo
I think he's a rapper.
joe rogan
Do you know?
Oh, probably.
eddie bravo
He looks like one.
I think he's a Jamaican rapper.
joe rogan
Did you know that they have meme cards now?
And people, like, they have, like, games they play with meme cards.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
And he's one of the meme cards.
And there's always the one, there's the one where, I forget who it is, another rapper, where he's standing like this, like, what?
Like, that picture.
brendan schaub
Sounds awesome.
joe rogan
And then there was the, you know, the black lady with the hump for a neck, and she's like, what?
unidentified
You know that one?
eddie bravo
You need to tell them, what?
brendan schaub
Hey, have you seen the one of the kid?
He's like in school and he's like this and there's no pain.
joe rogan
And it's like vegans when they haven't talked about being a vegan for over a minute.
Yeah, that's hilarious.
Yeah, see the meme, the game.
See, look at this.
It's a fucking game.
You play this game, like, and they, I don't know how it works, but you deal these things out, like these popular memes.
brendan schaub
It's hilarious.
eddie bravo
I wonder if that guy gets laid for that meme.
joe rogan
Damien Maia versus Colby Covington.
Ooh, that's an interesting fight.
That's an interesting fight.
You know what, man?
I just wish Damien Maia was younger.
Because without this sauce, without this special sauce, you know, he's like 40 years old now.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but even when he was young, he was a beast.
joe rogan
Oh, he's a beast.
brendan schaub
He's still a beast.
Remember he went on that whole kind of tear and then fought Anderson, terrible fight, back down, cut to 70, now he's a beast again.
He's still a beast.
joe rogan
He's 100% a beast.
brendan schaub
You wish he was young, why?
joe rogan
Because I love the idea of a specialist.
I'm always fascinated by a specialist, by a guy who just does one thing better than everybody else.
Can he do it to somebody?
brendan schaub
Like Ben Askren.
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
The fight I would do is Ben Askren, Damian Maia.
I wish Ben didn't retire.
Because I want that fight.
joe rogan
Ben's never going to get in the UFC. He talked way too much shit about Dana White.
brendan schaub
Are those days still there?
I feel like Dana White doesn't give a fuck anymore.
unidentified
I wish.
brendan schaub
When you have that much money, you're like, what?
Ben Askren?
Yeah, let him in.
unidentified
I don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
Why have him in?
And then what if he talks more shit about you?
brendan schaub
We need ratings.
Why not?
joe rogan
Ben Askren doesn't give a fuck.
brendan schaub
He's retiring, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's a bummer.
joe rogan
Undefeated.
Retiring undefeated.
But it's interesting because the only one who gave him any problems, really, was Jay Heron.
Jay Heron got him to a split decision.
brendan schaub
A long time ago, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
It was like a wrestler who could strike.
A guy who was good enough to keep you away.
You know, good enough wrestling to keep it from being a wrestling match, and he could strike.
brendan schaub
But Ben evolved from there, because Ben, with Woodley, with all these other guys, like, he evolved his game.
So you talk to people, and they're like, dude, he can handle the striking.
eddie bravo
There was one guy that gave him some trouble, some Russian Dagestan-type wrestler guy, who claimed, it was on 1FC, he was calling Ben out, saying, I could out-wrestle you, I'm gonna take you down.
And he did and he was on him for a while, but Ben still beat him.
brendan schaub
It's such a shame he never got in the UFC, man.
It's a fucking shame.
eddie bravo
Except for that guy, everybody that he gets his mitts on, as soon as Ben holds you or grabs you, his clinch is so high level that you just can't break free of his...
It's clenched.
brendan schaub
You know what's a bummer is one of the reasons, obviously you talk shit to Dana, but that style for a lot of people isn't going to sell pay-per-views or get ratings because of that wrestling holding people down.
eddie bravo
He's getting good at submitting guys now, too.
brendan schaub
But the UFC doesn't care, but they're not going to...
joe rogan
Here's the problem with that logic.
Floyd Mayweather's style of boxing is not fan-friendly either.
brendan schaub
But Floyd, major superstar, before that he did knock people out, became the guy you'd either pay to watch him lose or win.
Huge draw.
Ben Askren, not a big draw.
joe rogan
Stop right there.
brendan schaub
You're introducing him to people.
joe rogan
He was not a huge draw before he started talking shit to people.
He wasn't a huge draw until he became Money Mayweather.
When he became the bad guy, that's when he became a huge draw.
brendan schaub
He became a bad guy, but also fought Oscar De La Hoya, all these superstars.
Ben Askren's not coming to the UFC and they're going, alright, here's Conor McGregor, some superstar.
The UFC is not going to do that.
He doesn't have the style either.
joe rogan
But if he did, that would be very, very interesting.
brendan schaub
That's a huge if, Joe.
joe rogan
But what I'm saying is that's the only way that this guy could become famous is by shit-talking.
The shit-talking is what's going to make him famous.
Like, people wanting to see him lose.
That's what makes a guy like that famous.
Because his style is very appealing to guys like us that are like, I want to see if he can do it.
eddie bravo
You know what?
brendan schaub
It takes a while to evolve and be a good finisher.
eddie bravo
And at first, for a while, they were just taking people down and just owning them and controlling them.
But he's good at submitting people now.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
He's a great grappler overall.
So now...
The Ben Askren we have now, you can't compare him to the Ben Askren from five years ago.
eddie bravo
That's gone.
That's gone.
There's a Ben Askren that's going to take you down and choke you out now.
brendan schaub
Eddie, that's gone.
That's gone.
He's retired.
joe rogan
Money will bring him back.
eddie bravo
Nobody's really retired.
joe rogan
One FC allowed him to use knees to the head on the ground.
brendan schaub
What'd you say?
joe rogan
One FC allowed him to use knees to the head on the ground, right?
brendan schaub
That's a good point, yeah.
joe rogan
That's a big weapon.
brendan schaub
And kicks.
You see what Brandon Vera did over there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Kicking dudes in the face.
joe rogan
Kick them in the back of the head when they're down.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's like, it's rough.
He's their heavyweight champion.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You think he's on the juice?
unidentified
No.
eddie bravo
They took out the soccer kicks, though.
joe rogan
Well, did you see homeboy Roger Huerta get soccer kicked?
That was rough.
brendan schaub
That's why you can't have soccer kicks.
joe rogan
He was fighting a Brazilian who was a big fella who was cutting to make 170, and Roger's not really a 170. He was 155 in the UFC. Decided to fight 170, and he was getting beat up, and then he went down, and this dude's soccer kicked him into the next fucking day.
brendan schaub
You can't have that and be a professional sport.
joe rogan
It's just too brutal.
I don't know, man.
I mean, he hasn't really gotten back on track.
brendan schaub
He didn't die, but he's not doing well.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, it was a brutal, brutal knockout.
brendan schaub
They're tough to watch.
joe rogan
That one was, particularly.
brendan schaub
Did you see when Crow Cop kicked Ron Waterman?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
brendan schaub
I mean, it's fucking normal.
joe rogan
It is hard to watch, but why is it harder to watch than a regular head kick?
That's my question.
Is it because of the regular head kick, you kind of move more with it?
And the soccer kick, you're lying down already?
brendan schaub
Harder to defend.
eddie bravo
When you're lower, I think you can...
Generate more power.
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
For sure.
Like, Charlie Brown kicks someone in the face?
joe rogan
I think I could kick someone just as hard to the body.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
I think you'd be surprised.
joe rogan
You mean they kick harder on the ground?
brendan schaub
Fuck yes.
Like, think about an NFL kicker.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Like kicking straight like that?
joe rogan
No, I don't think so, dude.
I'm pretty sure that I could kick just as hard to the body as I could to the ground.
brendan schaub
I don't think so, Joe.
joe rogan
I think the real question is up high.
I think up high I would lose something.
I'd lose a little bit up high just from the leverage.
eddie bravo
I think your leg going straight like this and low, I think that's where most of the power is going to be right.
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
And guaranteed all shin.
joe rogan
It depends on what kind of kick.
Because here's the thing.
You could spinning back kick someone in the face when they're down two.
That's another thing to think about.
Think about that.
A dude gets hit, he goes down on one knee, and you fucking...
unidentified
People are gonna die.
joe rogan
I mean, if your face is right there and you took a full power turning sidekick to the face...
Look at Brandon.
He's so jacked now.
He's so thick.
This is the one when he KO'd the dude and kicked him to the head when he was on the ground.
brendan schaub
Remember when he beat Frank Mayer?
He was like, I'm taking light heavyweight, heavyweight over.
joe rogan
But you know what happened with him, man?
Oh, that's a beautiful straight left.
But look at this.
Soccer kicks to the back of the head.
That shit's rough.
Those kind of kicks to the back of the header.
brendan schaub
Forget that noise.
Brandon Vera, always a good guy, man.
Always a cool dude.
joe rogan
He's a really good guy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, great guy.
joe rogan
Really good guy.
brendan schaub
I was always a fan of his.
joe rogan
But, you know, he started out as a heavyweight and then dropped down to a light heavyweight, but the big thing that happened to him in the UFC was he went through this big, prolonged contract negotiation.
brendan schaub
He wanted to get paid.
joe rogan
He wanted to get paid, and when he came back, there was a tremendous amount of pressure on him.
He just didn't perform the same as he did before.
Then he fought Fabricio.
Fabricio Verdum got on top of him and put the squish down on him and beat the shit out of him.
Fabricio's mount.
This should be interesting.
Jan Blachowicz, Mark Goddard again in the motherfucking house.
Who is the gentleman that Blachowicz is fighting?
jamie vernon
Kevin Clark.
joe rogan
Devin Clark.
Do not know Mr. Clark.
There's the Golden Snitch right to the left.
brendan schaub
Oh, I didn't see him.
joe rogan
He made an appearance?
Checking piss right there.
He's got a little magnifying glass.
brendan schaub
You don't have a hit out on him.
joe rogan
Shaking vials.
brendan schaub
Shaking vials.
joe rogan
If anybody should have a hit on him, it should be IMG. Or WME, rather.
brendan schaub
Right.
People that bought the UFC. Dude, you're fucking up our business.
joe rogan
They should find that Russian dude that they got in hiding.
Bring him in.
brendan schaub
Give him promotion.
joe rogan
Give Novitski some new position.
Say, look, Jeff, you did a great job, but we're going a different direction.
brendan schaub
Going a different direction.
joe rogan
But we got a different job for you.
brendan schaub
Kick rocks, nerd.
joe rogan
No, keep him on.
You don't want to fire him, because then he'll talk some shit.
brendan schaub
Oh, Jeff, you got a new job.
You're actually in marketing.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's an amazing marketer.
brendan schaub
Yeah, yeah.
We need you to run the social media and shut the fuck up.
unidentified
You know what?
joe rogan
You have him run the UFC Performance Institute.
brendan schaub
Hey, piss boy.
Hey, piss boy.
You stay at the UFC Institute now and just keep your mouth shut.
You know what you're going to make?
You're going to make shakes now.
You're making shakes for the UFC fighters.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
You've got to give them a prestigious position.
brendan schaub
No, we say it's prestigious, but you just do that.
And we pay you out the ass to shut the fuck up.
How about you make some hemp protein shakes and shut the fuck up?
joe rogan
Yeah, just have them monitor the dudes that are on the treadmill.
unidentified
Good job, guys.
brendan schaub
There you go, guys.
joe rogan
Put that hose in your mouth.
When they run with the hose, I'm like, what are you, fucking Rocky?
brendan schaub
Cold towel?
You guys need a cold towel?
That should be his gig.
The ultimate piss, boy.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That UFC Performance Institute is fucking amazing.
brendan schaub
I haven't seen it.
joe rogan
I'd love to see it.
unidentified
We should go live.
joe rogan
You know, the next UFC in Vegas, you should come with me and we'll take a trip.
eddie bravo
I went there a couple weeks ago.
joe rogan
Oh, you had a meeting there about Fight Pass, right?
eddie bravo
About EBI? And Combat Jiu-Jitsu.
joe rogan
How'd that go?
eddie bravo
Good, good, good.
You know, yeah.
unidentified
You did it?
eddie bravo
We're still in negotiations about combat jiu-jitsu, which is in three weeks.
It's looking good.
joe rogan
They've been doing a lot of promotion, I know, of EBI on Fight Pass.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
During the fights, we've had some nice promotions.
eddie bravo
They sat us down and said, listen, look what we do for you.
They put a whole presentation.
Every time we mention you guys on this show or that show, boom, you know how much that's worth?
They broke it down for us and we're like, fuck.
That's pretty badass.
brendan schaub
It is.
eddie bravo
It's killer.
brendan schaub
Are you in contract negotiations with them?
That's what's going on?
eddie bravo
Combat Jiu Jitsu is an offshoot.
It's a spin-off from EBI. It's 100% combat Jiu Jitsu.
brendan schaub
And you're trying to sell that to them?
eddie bravo
With palm strikes.
brendan schaub
And you're trying to sell that to Fight Pass?
eddie bravo
We're putting on the show, and the UFC wants to be part of it.
And I just really can't explain exactly how, but we're going to figure it out within the next week.
brendan schaub
Gotcha.
eddie bravo
But...
If you don't know what combat jujitsu is, it's basically in between sub-only jujitsu and MMA. It's not MMA, but it's not sub-only.
It's right there.
It's for jujitsu fanatics who are just interested in seeing...
You know, there's guys that are really into kickboxing, and they know everything about kickboxing, but they'll watch MMA a little bit, you know what I mean?
But they're into kickboxing.
They're in the business.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
And then there's guys like that in boxing.
They watch a little MMA. Well, there's guys like that in jiu-jitsu, too.
A lot of guys in jiu-jitsu do not watch the UFC. You know why?
Because they're so into jiu-jitsu.
They want to see jiu-jitsu.
They watch jiu-jitsu and MMA, but they're not interested in kickboxing, just like a kickboxing guy is not interested in watching jiu-jitsu matches.
So there's a lot of different little genres, and combat Jiu Jitsu is for the Jiu Jitsu freak that wants to watch Jiu Jitsu competition with a little more realism, a little bit closer to MMA. When you add palm strikes, the importance of each position changes tremendously.
Like in the Sub-Only game, that's one aspect.
In the Sub-Only game, the full guard is not important.
At all.
If you never want to play full guard, that's on you.
You don't have to.
You could win Abu Dhabi in the point system without ever playing full guard.
You could win.
Full guard is so not important in samba-holi and in point grappling.
joe rogan
Can you explain what you're allowed to do?
What are you allowed to do with combat jiu-jitsu?
Strike-wise?
Can you punch at all?
eddie bravo
No, it's palm strikes.
joe rogan
Only.
eddie bravo
When you're standing, it's just wrestling.
It's not MMA. Right.
It's not MMA. Just wrestling, standing.
It's extreme jiu-jitsu.
You gotta look at it.
So, wrestling is just, standing is just wrestling, but as soon as someone hits the ground, you can start throwing palm strikes.
joe rogan
Right.
But no elbows to the body, no punches to the body.
eddie bravo
No punches, just palm strikes to the body.
Nothing.
Just palm strikes.
So it's like, remember the old Gracie in action videos?
Yeah.
All those challenge matches in Brazil, they had rules.
They were just palm strikes and jiu-jitsu.
Those were rules.
So after we did the first combat jiu-jitsu tournament at EBI 11, that's when I first introduced it, Horian Gracie calls me.
I never talked to Horian Gracie.
brendan schaub
I love Horian.
eddie bravo
Ever.
He called Rose Gracie to get my number.
He wanted to call me.
I'm on the phone with Horian Gracie, and he's thanking me for putting together combat jiu-jitsu.
Eddie, this is how we used to do it in Brazil.
I wanted Halleck to do this, but Halleck would not do this.
This is what we wanted.
Thank you.
This is the real jiu-jitsu.
And I'm like, holy shit.
The guy who invented the UFC calls me up.
brendan schaub
Smart man.
What happens if a guy accidentally makes a fist?
eddie bravo
It's a foul.
It's like a foul.
brendan schaub
Do you get a point taken away?
eddie bravo
Well, it's still no points.
We call this finish only.
Because in the first 10 minutes, if there's not a submission or a TKO, that's the only way you can finish.
Then we go into overtime, like EBI overtime.
But there has to be a finish, so we call it finish only.
brendan schaub
So people can get knocked out.
eddie bravo
They haven't gotten knocked out yet.
We did two four-man tournaments.
We did a girl one, the last show.
At EBI 11, like six months ago, we did the first one.
Now we're doing a whole show.
Combat Jiu-Jitsu Worlds 1. A whole show.
And Gary Tonin's going to be in it.
Wagner Rocha's going to be in it.
So tomorrow, you're going to see Gary Tonin and Wagner Rocha going at it EBI style.
And then three weeks later, you're going to see them going at it with palm strikes.
unidentified
Wow.
eddie bravo
How cool is that going to be?
joe rogan
The palm strikes is interesting because you remember when Bas Rutten burst onto the scene in Pancrase was lighting motherfuckers on fire with palm strikes?
eddie bravo
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
Because he figured out instead of swinging like a bitch, what he figured out is you pull the palm strikes and throw punches.
Just as you're throwing punches.
brendan schaub
You're going to break his hand.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's why he started doing a lot of it.
joe rogan
No, no.
That was the rules.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
I know.
But even when he went to MMA, he said he would keep the same thing.
Even if there's a rule or not, because he said he wouldn't break his hand.
joe rogan
Well, you definitely can.
brendan schaub
But he threw a lot of punches in MMA. For sure, but he would still throw hooks and stuff with open hand.
joe rogan
Look, the thing about the palm is it's not much softer than punching somebody.
But you don't hurt your hand at all.
Yeah.
Like, if you got a guy like Boss Rootin who really knows how to do it well, like, Boss has weird wrists.
He could pull his hand way further than I can.
Like, he pulls his hand way back.
Like, he gets his hand, like, back there.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he's basically just fucking palm snagging.
eddie bravo
He probably works on it, too.
joe rogan
I bet he does.
brendan schaub
It's embarrassing.
eddie bravo
So what happens with combat jiu-jitsu is the importance of the positions change.
Like all of a sudden when there's palm strikes, full guard is crucial.
Guard is trouble.
brendan schaub
Yeah, guard would be trouble.
joe rogan
You can't be half guard.
eddie bravo
Unnecessary in all of jiu-jitsu.
There's guys that win Abu Dhabi multiple times, never put anybody in their full guard.
It's so unnecessary.
But when there's palm strikes, it's the most important guy.
joe rogan
So it's better to prepare for MMA with that.
eddie bravo
That's another reason.
So aspiring grapplers that want to start working on MMA type jiu-jitsu and jiu-jitsu positions and focus on the positions that are going to translate to MMA better, combat jiu-jitsu will get their feet wet.
unidentified
That makes sense.
eddie bravo
It'll get their feet wet.
They'll get to practice MMA jujitsu without worrying about getting head kicked or something.
You know what I mean?
That's what it's for.
It's for the jujitsu fanatics that they like to see MMA when there's jujitsu.
Well, with combat jujitsu, it's going to be mostly jujitsu.
joe rogan
Well, you know, whenever they move rules around on combat sports, it makes it interesting.
That's what they did with K1. They took Muay Thai and they said, you know what, this clinch, you guys clinched too much, the elbows cut people up, you know, knees to the face.
Let's cut all the fucking clinch with the knees to the face, like holding and kneeing, and let's just have it turn into kickboxing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, try to make it better.
joe rogan
Yeah, they just tried to make it more exciting.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
This is going to be for guys that like MMA when there's Jiu Jitsu in it.
Now we're going to get pure MMA style Jiu Jitsu.
And we don't have to worry about the striking.
We love Muay Thai.
We love all that.
But this is just for the hardcore Jiu Jitsu guys.
We're going to get a lot of data on what leg lock positions are going to go out the door.
Because in the sub only game, shit, you can go for any goddamn leg lock you want.
But when they're striking, we're going to, uh-uh, not with that one.
And that one's too risky.
Let's just stick with these right here.
And that's what we're going to find out.
joe rogan
Are guys working their ground and pound?
Are guys getting a bag and just fucking bam, bam?
brendan schaub
Do they have to stay down, Eddie?
joe rogan
Tomorrow?
brendan schaub
If I'm in guard and I'm on top, can I posture up?
eddie bravo
Yes.
As long as the guy's on the ground, you could stand up.
You could be in a horse dance and throw palm strips.
And tomorrow at EBI 13, it's a regular sub-only 16-man tournament, but we're also having a four-man combat jiu-jitsu tournament with Richie Martinez.
joe rogan
We just missed a knockout.
Jan Blachowicz just knocked somebody out.
He's a real veteran.
brendan schaub
He's bodied up, too.
He's a real vet with a body on him.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's jacked.
He's very wide.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he is.
joe rogan
Let's watch what happened in the replay.
brendan schaub
Might have missed a couple leg days, whatever.
jamie vernon
They just stopped the fight for some reason, and then they came back right away.
Knocked him out or something.
brendan schaub
They stopped it, then were like, go!
And he knocked him out.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I missed the way he stopped it.
I was trying to reset the clock, and I looked back up, and it was over.
joe rogan
Well, we'll get a look at the replay here.
brendan schaub
Here we go.
Left hook.
joe rogan
Left hook counter.
brendan schaub
That wobbled him.
Oh, he choked him.
eddie bravo
Oh, we got him in a standing choke.
brendan schaub
Wow, look at that.
Look at that!
That's pretty dope.
He's pretty concussed.
eddie bravo
It's better than a knockout right there, right?
brendan schaub
Come on.
That was sweet.
Left hook, he's all messed up, and the choke's enough.
eddie bravo
It's way more dramatic than a knockout right there.
You got standing, rear naked choke, against the fence, no hooks.
joe rogan
Somebody had some ridiculous elbow knockout yesterday.
brendan schaub
Oh, no!
How about Heather Hardy?
unidentified
Oh!
Whoa!
brendan schaub
Have you seen this, Eddie?
So she was a ridiculous boxer.
I mean, one of the best female boxers of all time.
It's like, hey, I want to try MMA. She had a good first fight in Madison Square Garden.
She fought last night.
This girl had three fights.
No, no, no.
joe rogan
The girl had zero MMA fights.
brendan schaub
No, she had three MMA fights.
joe rogan
Three amateur.
brendan schaub
Amateur.
joe rogan
This is her pro debut.
brendan schaub
In Bellator.
joe rogan
Her pro debut, but she was a kickboxer.
And she kicked this girl's fucking face in.
brendan schaub
Well, Heather rolled like you're doing boxing.
eddie bravo
Christina Williams.
brendan schaub
Heather rolled like you're doing boxing.
That girl went...
eddie bravo
Hey!
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Well, the girl was beating her ass before that.
brendan schaub
Did you see her elbows?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Like, Heather was like, what the fuck are these?
joe rogan
Yeah, she didn't know what to do.
She thought she was in a safe position.
And also, the girl was lighting her up from the outside with kicks.
She was a kickboxing champion.
Undefeated in kickboxing.
Undefeated in taekwondo, I think.
Undefeated in boxing.
So the girl, like, knew how to strike.
brendan schaub
I root for Heather, man.
You hear her story, it's fucking fascinating, man.
joe rogan
What's her story?
brendan schaub
Well, she was living with her, I think, her mom, her grandma, and she had a daughter, and they were all living in a one-bedroom place in New York, and she was like, I'm going fucking crazy being in the house with the baby all day.
I just need an hour to go work out.
Someone's like, oh, there's a boxing gym down the street.
She walks in the boxing gym, starts to work out, and they're like, damn, you're not bad at this.
Boom.
Next thing you know, monster.
joe rogan
It's because she didn't run into that chick.
brendan schaub
Monster.
Well, box, and I think Heather would divert that fucking girl.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
That girl can fight, man.
brendan schaub
Boxing would be a different story, yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know about all that.
brendan schaub
Heather's super high-level boxing.
joe rogan
She is, but that girl can box, too.
She has an undefeated kickboxing record, as well.
Yeah, I hear you.
brendan schaub
Heather's a monster.
joe rogan
But her control of distance was what's important.
And when she was standing in front of her, she would kick and then she'd move to another angle.
brendan schaub
She'd mix it up non-stop and Heather just wanted to kind of get in close and play that dirty boxing game.
joe rogan
Well, the big thing was the distance, you know?
Christina Williams was fighting completely outside.
I mean, if you've got to close the distance and you can't throw kicks, like if you're a boxer and you can't throw kicks and the other person can box a little and they can kick good like this girl can, you're fucked, man.
Those kicks hit you a couple times in the arms and all of a sudden those arms don't work so good anymore.
You know, and then you're super nervous.
brendan schaub
You kick in the rhythm.
Then you see Heather there, she tried rolling like you do from a left hook or something like that, and that fucking kick hit her so hard, man.
Shin right to the face.
joe rogan
Her nose is just destroyed.
Like she's never going to look the same again.
brendan schaub
She's a pretty girl, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're gonna have to redo her.
brendan schaub
It's a bummer, because, you know, their beltors bank on her to kind of be the next big thing to carry that women's division.
Not that a loss kills her, but...
joe rogan
That kind of loss is a tough one, because you get your face caved in.
Again, your face caved in is not just losing.
brendan schaub
Talking about Cyborg style?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Michael Venom Page?
joe rogan
It's just...
Yeah, the face is so fucked up.
Like, you just gotta wonder, like, how long would it take before that girl could even fight again?
brendan schaub
Did you see Michael Venom Page's professional boxing debut?
Granted, the motherfucker he fought was...
4-70, whatever.
He murked that dude.
joe rogan
And he did it in a weird way.
Hands down, leaped forward with a straight right, blasted him, and then just stepped on the ropes and looked away.
brendan schaub
How exciting is that kid?
joe rogan
He's fun, man.
He would be a big star in the UFC. With the right matchups, yeah.
Yeah, in Bellator, they just do not get the credit that they deserve.
brendan schaub
I mean, I agree.
No one gets the credit they deserve.
But, you know, he's a big star over there.
Like, in London, he's big.
Him and Paul Daly is going to happen.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Well, I hope it happens.
brendan schaub
It's going to happen.
joe rogan
It is a video, Jamie.
You find a video of the punch.
brendan schaub
There it is.
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy.
Watch how he does this.
brendan schaub
His style's so...
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
Look at him!
Look at him!
joe rogan
He's hilarious, man.
Yeah, he's kind of comical.
That was a serious right hand.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
joe rogan
And there's so much stepping into it, so much momentum behind that part.
brendan schaub
Rory McDonald was on my show talking about how he'd like to fight him eventually.
unidentified
Yeah?
brendan schaub
That'd be a fun fight.
Although if Rory just came in with some wrestling shoes, would just pick him apart.
joe rogan
He would dismantle him.
The problem is Roy is not easy to hit.
He's very good on his feet.
brendan schaub
Oh, Roy, stay behind the jab if he wants to.
joe rogan
If he got a hold of Michael, Michael's fucked.
brendan schaub
Which he would do.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's just too high-level.
Rory has just one of the most comprehensive games in the 170-pound division in the world.
brendan schaub
He's the best welterweight in the world.
joe rogan
He very well could be.
brendan schaub
He beat the USC champ.
joe rogan
He beat Woodley, yeah.
brendan schaub
But then lost to...
joe rogan
I think...
You know what, man?
Rafael Dos Anjos fighting Robbie Lawler.
Goddamn, that's a good fight.
brendan schaub
It's a good fight.
joe rogan
We're going to learn a lot about Dos Anjos at 170. Dos Anjos at 170 looks like a fucking murderer.
brendan schaub
Looks scary.
joe rogan
He looks like the same guy at 155. I think when he was making that mad run at 155, you know, when he got to the end and he lost to Alvarez, he was just cutting too much weight.
He couldn't do it anymore.
brendan schaub
Too much weight.
joe rogan
But now you see him at 175, he looks more comfortable, he's got more power, and he's beating the fuck out of people at 170. I mean, he ate Neil Magny the fuck up.
He ate him up, ran through him.
It was like a world champion fighting a journeyman.
That's what it was like.
brendan schaub
I'm in a journey, man.
Listen, I love you, Neil, but it looked like fucking amateur hour.
joe rogan
Yeah, he smashed him.
Well, Neil's always going to have problems with the real elite guys on the ground.
brendan schaub
Elite grapplers?
That's his downfall.
That's his Achilles heel.
Everyone else, he can fucks with.
You know, he beat Kelvin Gaslam.
He's beat top-level guys.
But if they're really, really good on the ground...
joe rogan
But let's be honest about why he beat Kelvin.
Kelvin was overweight, and he came in, and he tried to cut too much weight, and he was just diminished.
I think Kelvin in shape is just way too much for him.
That's my opinion.
I just think Kelvin is one of the best in the world.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying he's not, but matchup-wise, even at 70s can be a tough fight for Kelvin.
joe rogan
Kelvin can do things to him that he can't do to Kelvin.
Kelvin knocks people dead.
And he doesn't.
Neil has got incredible cardio, long reach, but he just kind of picks guys apart.
brendan schaub
Long range.
Bring in the deeper rounds.
joe rogan
Most impressed with him was when he fought Hector.
Hector Lombard.
brendan schaub
Oh, Lombard, yes.
joe rogan
Because Lombard had him dead.
He had him on Queer Street.
brendan schaub
I mean, you can say what you want about Neil, but he beat Hector Lombard, Johnny Hendricks, and Kelvin Gaston.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Yep.
World-class.
I mean, he's definitely a world-class fighter, but that's how good Dos Anjos is.
Dos Anjos kicked him one time to the legs.
His legs went...
brendan schaub
Well, when he took him down, it was fucking...
joe rogan
Took him down with a leg kick.
brendan schaub
Ate his ass up.
joe rogan
Yeah, he leg kicked him to the ground.
I mean, have you seen the size of Dos Anjos' legs at 172?
brendan schaub
He's a monster.
joe rogan
He's so much bigger.
It's just so much healthier for him.
I just...
Dana said something recently that he doesn't think that more weight classes are the solution to weight cutting.
I disagree.
brendan schaub
Well, what's the solution?
Whatever we're doing is not working because no one misses more weight than at 55 and 70. Well, how about Kevin Lee?
joe rogan
I mean, if they've got everything locked down, how does Kevin Lee barely make it to 155 and looks like he's on death door and he's 19 pounds over two days out?
brendan schaub
Well, who has it locked down, you're saying?
joe rogan
I'm saying they don't have it locked down.
brendan schaub
It's the biggest issue, well, besides some other things, but it's one of the biggest issues in our sport.
joe rogan
And now Kevin has said he can't do it anymore.
He's going to move up.
He said this weight cut damn near killed him.
unidentified
He said that?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's going to move up.
brendan schaub
The staff ain't helping nobody either.
unidentified
Who said that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Kevin Lee.
eddie bravo
He's going to 170?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
You just gotta do same day weighing.
Nobody will take a chance.
No one would kill themselves if it's same day weighing.
They wouldn't take a chance.
That's why IBJJF does that.
EBI does that.
Same day, you're gonna take a chance.
You can't take a chance.
unidentified
You just gotta compete at what you're really at.
If you got a day to recover, they go, damn, I got a day to recover.
eddie bravo
I can kill myself.
I'll have 24 hours to recover.
But when you don't have, like, IBJJF, they make you weigh in, and then you fight right a minute later.
brendan schaub
But, you know, I love Kevin, he knows, but...
You know, Tony cut a bunch of weight.
He figured it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Tony was like three pounds over like a couple days out.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but like two weeks before.
eddie bravo
Yeah, Tony goes down.
He has it down.
He's a soldier, dude.
I mean, you don't fuck around.
brendan schaub
But also, if you're Dana, you need more weight classes because it's fucking your business up.
Because Khabib, I mean, we can't put any money on him.
Connor's never going to fight him.
He's not fighting Tony next.
Tony don't want to fight him.
Dude, you can't even make weight.
joe rogan
He's going to fight Barboza.
brendan schaub
Maybe.
eddie bravo
Who's going to fight Barboza?
unidentified
Khabib.
brendan schaub
Is it?
Khabib.
joe rogan
That's a great fight.
Apparently, according to Cormier, he's got a new nutritionist, and the nutritionist has got him on point.
brendan schaub
It's a discipline issue.
joe rogan
He's got to keep the tiramisu away.
brendan schaub
Yeah, tiramisu, I don't give a fuck if, you know...
joe rogan
It's definitely a discipline issue, but it's also a psychological issue.
eddie bravo
You think Tony's going to fight Conor?
You think that's going down?
brendan schaub
He has to.
joe rogan
I think Conor made that post.
Conor made that post to Tony.
Recently?
Yeah, he made an Instagram post.
brendan schaub
Talking about the GTA post?
joe rogan
Yeah, Grand Theft Auto with him holding a gun, driving a boat.
brendan schaub
Because Tony did it first.
Because Tony did it first, right?
joe rogan
Well, Tony was talking shit about him.
He called him McNugget and all this different shit.
He's a piece of shit.
brendan schaub
But didn't Tony originally post the GTA meme, and then Connor responded with his, or vice versa?
joe rogan
I think it's vice versa.
I think Connor went at Tony.
Look, Connor's smart.
He realizes that Tony's an unusual, eccentric character.
Yeah.
He wrote Tony.
Connor is an unusual...
Look, he's got a bag of cash in the back.
Connor's an unusual eccentric character.
Tony's an unusual eccentric character, too.
And Tony, look, Tony has the longest win streak in the UFC's 155-pound division.
He is the interim champion, and he's the logical fighter.
brendan schaub
He's won 10 in a row, for God's sakes, in the toughest division in the world.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker, no doubt.
And a legitimate champion.
brendan schaub
Here's the problem with that.
And I... I 100% think Conor has to fight Tony next.
If you want to be taken serious in your legacy, you have to fight Tony.
But if you're Conor's business decision-makers, you're going, look at Tony's draw for pay-per-view, though.
It's going to be tough for us to sell this thing.
joe rogan
Well, yes, but not with Conor.
Conor sells like fucking crazy, and Conor versus Tony sells because Tony's a legit threat.
brendan schaub
Conor versus my mom sells.
joe rogan
Right.
But Conor versus a legit threat sells.
Like Conor fighting someone sells.
But Conor versus a legit threat is where it gets interesting.
eddie bravo
Tony is the big fight.
That's the big fight.
brendan schaub
I agree.
eddie bravo
Are you kidding?
He's arrived.
He's a character.
joe rogan
Eddie, I'm with you.
brendan schaub
But the pay-per-view numbers were fucking awful.
eddie bravo
They were terrible.
Well, well, you know.
brendan schaub
Don't get me wrong.
eddie bravo
It takes two to tango.
joe rogan
It does.
brendan schaub
Not for Connor.
eddie bravo
Kevin Lee isn't the biggest name on the planet.
Everybody respects him in the game because they know he's a beast.
He's coming up, fucking people up, choking people up, left and right.
They know he's a beast, but the world really didn't know him yet.
You know what I mean?
brendan schaub
The world doesn't know either of them.
eddie bravo
They know Tony now, the world knows Tony.
joe rogan
There was a lot of controversy on Kevin's win over Chiesa.
eddie bravo
The world knows Tony, for sure.
joe rogan
The whole world doesn't know Tony, but the MMA world knows Tony, for sure.
But the regular people are the people that you need to get a hold of in order to really buy pay-per-views.
brendan schaub
Because the world knows Nate, and that's where the businessmen, the WMEs go, well, let's do Nate, which, if you look at any poll, I did a poll, Eric Hawante did a poll, MMA Junkie, everyone goes, no, Tony Ferguson's the fucking fight.
You're talking hundreds of thousands of votes.
People go, Tony Ferguson's the next fight.
But WME's going, yeah, but the money's over here.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But the Nate fight's not going anywhere.
And how long are you going to let Conor play this kind of weird make-up-a-fight game, you know?
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing with Nate.
Nate made four million bucks over two fights, and he don't give a fuck.
He's like, pay me.
You gotta pay me.
brendan schaub
But the UFC's going to pay you for what?
You've lost four out of your last seven.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, but he beat Conor.
And in the second fight, he arguably had a draw with Conor.
But he lost.
He lost a decision based on a couple of people's opinion.
brendan schaub
That's all that matters, Joe.
joe rogan
But it doesn't matter.
It doesn't.
Public opinion means a lot.
If you went online and you asked people who you think won that fight, I bet you would get very close to 50-50 Nate versus Conor.
brendan schaub
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
It does matter in terms of how you sell the fight.
brendan schaub
It doesn't because to sell the fight, if Nate would have won if those three people and had Nate winning, you don't have a third fight.
unidentified
You could absolutely have a third fight after he beats Eddie Alvarez.
brendan schaub
No, not twice in a row.
joe rogan
Sure.
After he beat Eddie Alvarez, you absolutely could have a third fight.
Yeah, absolutely.
brendan schaub
Not if Nate beat him twice.
joe rogan
Not true.
Not true.
Especially if he beat him by the same decision.
If he had the exact same fight and Nate won that decision, which was entirely feasible, right?
The second fight was so close, you could easily have given it to Nate.
If Nate wins that second fight...
brendan schaub
He's beat him twice in a row.
You can do it a third time.
joe rogan
You don't think that after Conor knocks out Eddie Alvarez the way he did, if Conor fought Alvarez, knocked him out, you don't think you could sell a third fight because it was so goddamn razor close?
brendan schaub
God, 0-2, I guess.
joe rogan
You're looking at the numbers.
You see, the problem with decisions is these decisions are solidified by three people that oftentimes don't even have a fucking background in MMA and get decisions wrong all the time.
That doesn't mean a lot to me.
What means a lot to me is how close the fight was.
That's what means a lot to me.
brendan schaub
If a guy goes 0-2, it's going to be tough to tell me on Trilogy.
joe rogan
What do we got, Jamie?
jamie vernon
The scorecards from that fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, 47-47, 48-47, 48-47.
That's as fucking close as it gets.
It's a majority decision.
One guy scored a draw.
Glenn Trowbridge.
I do not remember what I thought.
Whether I thought it went to Conor or went to...
You know what?
I don't think I watched it again.
I'm pretty sure I only watched that fight when I was...
brendan schaub
It was a close fucking fight.
joe rogan
Very close.
brendan schaub
Super razor close.
joe rogan
We've seen decisions...
Like in fights that weren't as close, go to the other guy.
brendan schaub
But no one got robbed in that fight.
joe rogan
I wouldn't say Nate got robbed.
I would say that it's a controversial decision because anytime you have a majority decision, there's some controversy to it.
But my point is, you could easily sell that fight even if Nate had won.
brendan schaub
I think there's other fights to sell, bigger fights.
joe rogan
What is a bigger fight?
If Nate fought Connor, you think there's a bigger fight?
Than that?
brendan schaub
Hold on, Joe.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
brendan schaub
I'm trying to follow you.
So you're saying if Nate beat him twice, the third fight's going to be a big fight right now?
joe rogan
This beat him stuff, it's the same exact fight.
The same exact fight takes place.
unidentified
The same exact fight.
joe rogan
The same exact fight.
Those three random fucking people, they decide, you know what, this 47-47, I'm going to go 48-47 Diaz.
And then the 48-47 goes, you know what, I think it's the opposite.
I think it's 48-47.
brendan schaub
It's a make-believe world.
joe rogan
It's not a make-believe world, because it's entirely feasible that that could have happened.
brendan schaub
But that never happened, and Tony has a belt.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, are you listening to me?
It's entirely possible that that could have happened in the exact same fight.
It's still the same fight.
The fight was very close.
Those guys were rivals, man, and Nate choked him the fuck out in the first fight.
That's always going to be there.
So even if Conor got real close, Conor's such a superstar that if he lost a close decision in the second fight, you could absolutely make an argument for a third fight, especially with one or two spectacular performances like the Eddie Alvarez fight.
brendan schaub
So if we're going off that, we can do any fight.
Let's do Jose Aldo.
He could say, oh, that was a freak accident at 13 seconds.
Let's run that back.
That's a huge draw.
joe rogan
I think you could run that back.
brendan schaub
For sure.
And then let's run Eddie Alvarez back if he beats Justin Gaethje.
joe rogan
The thing about Eddie Alvarez was he beat the shit out of Eddie Alvarez and then knocked him out.
Eddie was never in that fight.
brendan schaub
Let's bring Chad Mendes back because he took it on a six-day notice.
joe rogan
It's not a bad idea, but Chad's fighting at 145. You know what I'm saying, Joe?
What are you saying?
I don't understand what you're saying.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying the Nate fight, it could have gone either way, but it didn't happen.
So you can make...
Conor in any fight is going to be big.
But winning and losing does matter at the end of the day.
To the general population, it does matter.
joe rogan
It does matter, but when the fights are the exact same, you could easily see the decision go one way or the other.
You know there's fights that you've watched where you say, you know what, the guy got the decision, but man, I don't agree with it.
You just said that with Mousasi and Shomenko.
brendan schaub
For sure.
Yeah, it happens all the time.
That's part of the game.
joe rogan
I look at that fight, if I look at a fight like that, I absolutely want to see that fight again.
I don't care if one guy got a decision from three people that I don't agree with.
brendan schaub
That's fine.
I guess...
We're kind of saying the same thing.
I'm saying any fight Conor does is going to be big.
joe rogan
Any fight Conor does is going to be big.
But I think we both agree that the big money is in the Nate Diaz fight.
brendan schaub
Correct.
But it's not the smart fight to do.
joe rogan
The big money would be in the Nate Diaz fight even if Nate beat him in the second fight.
I really think that.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
I disagree with you there.
joe rogan
I do because I think Conor's a giant superstar.
He's not going to be less of a superstar.
And I think Nate would be a bigger star.
In fact, I think it would be worth more money if Nate beat him in the second fight.
Wow, because I think Nate would be a bigger star.
eddie bravo
Tony and Conor is about his biggest fight you can get in a lightweight division in UFC history.
joe rogan
Because you trained Tony!
eddie bravo
In UFC history!
In UFC history!
Tony against Conor, and that's like Duran versus Leonard.
joe rogan
I don't think it's the biggest fight, but I think it's what the purest is like.
unidentified
No, it could be.
eddie bravo
It's up there.
brendan schaub
It's what the purest is like.
eddie bravo
It's among the best lightweight division.
A unification?
brendan schaub
It's because Conor's coming off of the Floyd Mayweather hype.
eddie bravo
Oh dude, people know...
brendan schaub
Let's say if Nate...
First of all, Eddie, before you rip my head off, I agree.
Tony and Conor 100% have to fight next.
He's a star in our world.
In the big world, he's not.
He's a star in our world.
eddie bravo
Huge star in our world.
brendan schaub
But let's say Nate...
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
You think you can go to the gas station right now and go, hey man...
Who's Tony Ferguson?
eddie bravo
Depends on the guy who's there.
If he has a UFC shirt, he'll know.
unidentified
If he has a WWE shirt, probably not.
joe rogan
What if he has an Affliction shirt on?
eddie bravo
It all depends.
joe rogan
If you go to the average person and ask them who Nate Diaz is, way more people are going to know who he is than Tony.
brendan schaub
Now hear me out, Joe.
What if Nate...
eddie bravo
Floyd Mayweather's still a bigger name than...
They could do a rematch and have another big fight bigger than Kukui.
But I'm talking about for the UFC, fuck everyone outside the UFC. UFC has millions and millions of fans.
brendan schaub
Well, Nate's a bigger name.
eddie bravo
All over the world.
All over the world.
He has the interim belt.
brendan schaub
He has to fight him.
joe rogan
You're right in terms of as a purist.
brendan schaub
Correct.
But Joe, what if Nate took another fight?
eddie bravo
As your average UFC fan, I'm right as your average UFC fan.
brendan schaub
What if Nate fought Barboza or Khabib and beat them?
Think how big that Nate fight would be with Conor then.
joe rogan
That's a big if though.
The problem with that is Nate's lost to a lot of guys.
brendan schaub
We're talking about an if world right now.
joe rogan
But we're not right now because we're talking about what pieces are in play right now.
What do we have right in front of us?
brendan schaub
So if you're doing it right now...
joe rogan
Nate!
brendan schaub
Well, if you're going by what the fans have voted, Tony would be the fight that the purists want.
joe rogan
But this is the fans that listen to Ariel Helwani or you.
These are hardcore people.
In order to make money, you have to get those people, and then you've got to get the people who know it peripherally.
brendan schaub
Well, then Nate Diaz or Pauli Malignaggi is the next fight.
joe rogan
No, they don't even know who Pauli Malignaggi is.
brendan schaub
How dare you?
joe rogan
They don't.
Unless Conor fights him in boxing.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying, boxing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But taking all that out of context, Nate is the bigger fight no matter how we paint this picture.
The fight you should do is Tony though.
joe rogan
Do you think that Paulie Malignaggi vs.
Conor is a bigger fight in boxing than Nate vs.
brendan schaub
Conor is in MMA? I think whatever Conor does is big.
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
I think Nate vs.
Conor is bigger in MMA than Pauly vs.
Conor is in boxing.
brendan schaub
Probably.
Yeah, because Pauly's not like a Floyd Mayweather where he's going to get all those boxing fans.
Pauly was good and he's a big name.
He's on Showtime.
But he's not Floyd Mayweather big.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just a different thing.
brendan schaub
You have the whole Nate...
Freaking fan base.
You got the Conor fan base.
Then you have WME behind that with the hype machine.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they've severely lightened the sanctions on weed.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but if you're WME, you're going, what are we going to make the most?
I'm sorry, not if you're WME. If you're Conor's business planners, you're going, how do we make the most money?
It's a McGregor promotion in boxing.
We're going to make more money doing that, fighting Pauly, and it's safer than fighting Nate or fighting That's true.
joe rogan
But if Conor loses two in a row in boxing, that severely diminishes his star in MMA. Comes back to MMA. And by the way, they'll strip him of his belt.
If he fights another...
You gotta strip him.
brendan schaub
They ain't doing shit to him.
UFC, who's gonna do it?
He does whatever he wants.
He might fight at heavyweight if he wanted to.
They're not gonna do shit to him.
He's too much of a drawl.
joe rogan
But Tony or Nate is a dangerous fight.
Either fight is a dangerous fight.
brendan schaub
Tony and Nate are more dangerous than fighting Pauly.
joe rogan
What is that?
brendan schaub
Nate did his own.
jamie vernon
Nate's his own GTA post.
joe rogan
What does it say?
jamie vernon
It doesn't say anything.
There's no comment.
joe rogan
Monument?
What is that?
jamie vernon
No, that's just that.
joe rogan
Just that?
brendan schaub
I mean, regardless.
Is there a Tony one?
eddie bravo
There's a Tony Ferguson one too?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Tony has his.
Tony might have been the first one to do it, I think.
joe rogan
Tony Ferguson.
I don't see one.
Oh, there it is.
Snapdown City.
brendan schaub
No, that's not it, is it?
eddie bravo
There it is right there.
It's a video or something.
He's running with bears in Big Bear.
unidentified
Look at him.
eddie bravo
That's funny.
joe rogan
I like that he trains up there, man.
It's really interesting.
Does he always rent the same place up there or does he rent different places?
eddie bravo
No, different houses.
joe rogan
So he just goes like Airbnb or something like that for a month and a half?
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
How many weeks does he stay up there?
eddie bravo
Six weeks, something like that.
joe rogan
Guy's got phenomenal cardio.
He was so calm in that fight, too.
It's like he knew that Kevin was just going to eventually fade out.
Did he know about Kevin's staph infection?
brendan schaub
No, but I noticed it right when he got on the octagon.
eddie bravo
As soon as he got on the octagon, I'm like, dude has staff on his chest.
The way Tony responded to it, they said, did you know he had staff?
He goes, yeah, I was trying to punch it.
I was using it as a target.
joe rogan
I noticed it.
I was calling it on the...
brendan schaub
I can't believe you said something.
eddie bravo
What did you think about the fight?
joe rogan
Why did you think I wouldn't say something?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Because if you didn't know it was staff, I was like, oh, fuck.
joe rogan
I knew it was staff.
That looks like staff.
eddie bravo
And I said to DC... We've had staff enough times to know.
joe rogan
I haven't had staff twice.
I know what staph looks like.
I'm like, that ain't good.
That's a bad one, too.
brendan schaub
When he saw staph, I'm like, he's super screwed.
Already it was a tough matchup.
joe rogan
Staph, antibiotics?
No, he didn't go on antibiotics.
brendan schaub
He said he did, I thought.
joe rogan
No, he said he didn't.
He said he didn't take the antibiotics because he didn't want it to wreck his cardio.
But the staph itself wrecks you.
brendan schaub
I thought Tony looked amazing.
joe rogan
No, he did look amazing, but here's the thing.
When I was saying it, and I said to DC, I go, hey man, that looks like staff to me.
Does that look like staff?
And DC's like, yeah, that looks like staff.
Someone was in DC's ear saying, don't say anything.
Someone was telling them in the production, don't talk about the staff.
unidentified
And then you just go, that's staff!
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
This is before anybody.
I noticed it before anybody.
I noticed it immediately.
He took his shirt off.
He rented the Octagon.
I'm like, that's staff.
brendan schaub
So the truck saw it before.
joe rogan
The truck was saying to DC, don't say anything.
And DC's like...
Yeah, that looks like staff.
He said it anyway.
brendan schaub
You gotta acknowledge it.
What are you gonna do?
joe rogan
Well, he did an interview where he said that they brought it up.
Like, someone said it to him and he's like, nah, I'm gonna talk about it anyway.
brendan schaub
You have to.
We're just going to ignore fucking staph?
That's dangerous!
But it's also a huge issue.
joe rogan
Did Tony wash himself with bleach and shit afterwards?
Yes.
What did he do?
eddie bravo
He jumped in the shower.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Did he have defense soap?
eddie bravo
I don't know.
joe rogan
Gee, I hope so.
Defense soap makes these little wipes too now.
eddie bravo
He's fine.
joe rogan
Look at the size of that fucking staph infection.
I forgot he had them mounted.
brendan schaub
Me too.
I forgot about that too.
eddie bravo
End of the first round.
He escaped though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Kevin's a talented fucking dude, man.
joe rogan
Super talented.
brendan schaub
He's young.
joe rogan
Look at the size of that staph infection though.
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Some of the worst staph I've ever seen.
joe rogan
That's a huge, huge, pus-filled fucking hole.
How bodied up is that dude, by the way?
brendan schaub
For reals.
unidentified
Jacked.
joe rogan
How the fuck did he make 155, too?
Because he looks all of 190 right there.
brendan schaub
He looked dead on the scale.
joe rogan
Yeah, he looked very bad.
brendan schaub
He looked like the Crypt Keeper.
joe rogan
He looked very bad.
But that's a terrible staph infection.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what, Tony vs.
Conor is a fun matchup, man.
It sure is.
That's a great fight.
joe rogan
Tony has survivability.
He's got crazy endurance.
eddie bravo
He's got to kill him.
brendan schaub
He has crazy.
In a good way.
He has crazy where you're going to have to kill him.
joe rogan
He can get things off from everywhere.
He can beat you from the ground.
He can beat you standing.
He can knock you out.
He throws these weird off-angle punches.
He's got a great chin.
He's super durable.
eddie bravo
Elbows from the guard, that was what changed everything.
brendan schaub
So talented.
Yeah, that's where Kevin was in trouble.
eddie bravo
Most fighters don't know this.
They think that in the mount, 12 to 6 is illegal, right?
These straight down, but the upside down mount is full guard.
6 to 12. They're still the 12 to 6, but they're on their back.
Those are totally legal.
Most fighters still don't know that, and they don't throw them.
brendan schaub
Which is strange.
eddie bravo
They don't throw them.
brendan schaub
But you know who was the master of that shit?
eddie bravo
Jose Pele Landi.
Oh, yeah.
He was the first Anderson Silva at Shootbox.
unidentified
That was the first one.
eddie bravo
Anderson Silva was like his little protege.
brendan schaub
Jose Pele Landi, when he fought Makako back in the late 90s and Valetuda Mecca and all that stuff, remember?
joe rogan
Bare knuckle.
unidentified
Remember that?
eddie bravo
In high school gyms, they had a rivalry.
Makako was a...
He still fights now.
brendan schaub
Makako was a jiu-jitsu guy, and Pele was the Muay Thai guy.
eddie bravo
But any time Makako would take him down in full guard, Pele would put his feet on his hips and throw those 12 to 6 from the guard and fucking would brutalize Makako.
brendan schaub
That's some power.
eddie bravo
It's like you didn't want to take this...
If that's all you focused on from the full guard...
brendan schaub
Did you guys train a lot of it?
eddie bravo
It's hard to train those, but in full guard, we'd say, remember, always, always.
Look at Ben Saunders.
It's part of the game.
Rubber guard and elbows, they work hand in hand.
joe rogan
Remember when Jason Day fought Alan Belcher?
eddie bravo
Exactly.
Jason Day versus Alan Belcher, he threw like 22 elbows for mission control.
It's part of the system.
If you can't get him in a position where you want him, just get to Michigan throw and throw elbows.
But in the situation in Tony's fight, Kevin Lee didn't want to stay on his feet.
He wanted Tony on the ground.
So when you have a situation like that where Tony's winning the stand-up, he wants to stand up, but you've got to wrestle on top of you.
Now you can put your feet...
You can put your feet on the hips because if Kevin wanted to keep the fight standing, let's say he was beating Tony standing, then Tony putting his feet on the hips would be bad because then Kevin would stand up and now we've got to drag him to the ground again.
But since Kevin didn't want to stand, now you're free to throw those 12 to 6 from the bottom.
You put the feet on the hips because Kevin has to put the pressure so it's perfect.
You just hold yourself up and you can't even fire back.
When you got your feet on the hips, your knees are blocking the shoulders.
So dudes can't even fire back.
And if you set the pace first, he's got to block.
He doesn't have time to throw because you're coming straight with those elbows.
You watch that fight.
Kevin, he was confused with the elbows.
brendan schaub
That threw everything off.
I'll tell you what's interesting is in the fight with Tony and Connor, I'll say that's next.
If Tony goes, you know what, I'm going to do my weird movement, but I'm just going to grapple the fuck out of you.
I don't know how good of a fight you have.
Because Tony's an amazing wrestler.
People don't realize how good of a wrestler he is.
joe rogan
It's not a good fight for Connor, I'll tell you that.
brendan schaub
If Tony doesn't want to be a good fight, if Tony goes, you know what, you think you're the best standing up?
I think I'm the best.
Watch this.
You have a classic on your hands.
But if Tony goes, I'm just going back to my wrestling days.
You're fucked.
It's not great for Conor.
joe rogan
I think it's still great because if he finishes him, it's great.
If he gets Conor to ground, beats him up and strangle him.
brendan schaub
I'm saying for Conor.
For Tony, it's great no matter what.
joe rogan
I think it's a dangerous fight for Conor.
I think it's a very dangerous fight.
brendan schaub
I think it's dangerous for both guys.
Super dangerous for Conor.
Tony's the most dangerous guy in that division.
By far.
He doesn't do anything to...
joe rogan
About judging, about we're talking about the arbitrary three people.
I think that's a very flawed system, and I think it's completely unnecessary today.
I think today, with access to voting and online voting...
brendan schaub
A fan vote?
joe rogan
Not a fan vote.
A vote of experts.
A panel of experts.
You get a bunch of Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belts that are also MMA journalists, different referees and judges.
Have a panel of like, you know, I guess...
brendan schaub
Who know what's going on.
joe rogan
Right.
Like, how does the Academy Awards work?
I don't know how it works.
But I would assume it's a bunch of people that are experts in film who are in the business.
brendan schaub
That's a good idea, Joe.
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
That's a great idea.
joe rogan
Well, that's different.
brendan schaub
Oh, dear.
unidentified
He's going up to Harvey Weinstein's massages.
eddie bravo
Oh, man.
joe rogan
It's crazy, right?
eddie bravo
That documentary, An Open Secret, watch that shit.
joe rogan
I keep hearing about that, man.
eddie bravo
An Open Secret, watch...
brendan schaub
Is it about...
joe rogan
It's about pedophilia in Hollywood, right?
eddie bravo
It's about Hollywood managers who manage kids.
It's a racket, man.
joe rogan
Did you hear that that kid from Strange...
eddie bravo
They're just grooming these kids, dude.
joe rogan
That kid from Strange Things?
unidentified
To Sucker Dick.
joe rogan
Stranger Things.
brendan schaub
Stranger Things.
joe rogan
He just left his manager and they're alleging sexual abuse.
They just left their agent.
See if you can find that.
Owen Benjamin just put it on his Instagram today because Owen has been taking a lot of heat online because he said that a three-year-old kid shouldn't be fucking transgender and people are giving him a hard time saying he's a bigot.
Like, are you out of your fucking mind?
eddie bravo
What's up with this transgender shit going on?
joe rogan
Stranger Things actor dropped agent accused of sexual assault.
Disney star follows suit.
Jesus Christ.
This is nuts, man.
eddie bravo
Watch an open secret and they go through...
Dude, they pick...
They're accusing people.
It's for free, I think, on Vimeo.
What's it on?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can watch it.
eddie bravo
You can watch it for free on Open Secrets on YouTube or something.
joe rogan
You know what Sturgill Simpson told me?
He said the same thing exists in music.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
He said in music there's a bunch of pedos and pederasts in music as well.
eddie bravo
The entertainment business all the way through.
For sure.
Music.
This is about music and movies and TV. It's about the whole entertainment business.
joe rogan
So it's women and kids.
eddie bravo
Mostly kids.
joe rogan
And sometimes dudes.
You know, Terry Crews said that he was attacked.
Well, not attacked.
Some dude grabbed his dick.
brendan schaub
Some dude grabbed his dick in front of his wife.
joe rogan
But some famous dude grabbed his dick.
You know who else said that?
Who was that fucking big-time football player that was in that weird movie with John Travolta?
Howie Long.
Howie Long said the exact same shit was happening to him.
brendan schaub
Someone grabbed Howie Long's dick?
joe rogan
Guys were coming after Howie Long.
Guys were propositioning him, trying to tell him that this is what you have to do to make it in the movie business.
brendan schaub
Like, suck dick or fuck girls?
joe rogan
You know who else it happened to?
Hulk Hogan.
Same thing happened with Hulk Hogan.
No way!
brendan schaub
Hulk Hogan got molested trying to be in movies?
joe rogan
Hulk Hogan got propositioned by a high-level movie person that told him this is how the game is played.
brendan schaub
And did he do it and make those terrible movies?
joe rogan
No, that's why he's not in movies.
Or why he isn't in any good ones.
brendan schaub
Tell you what, you look at guys who are killing it.
Super skeptical hippos.
It's coming out now.
eddie bravo
Shit's coming out now.
joe rogan
Donald Sterling, look at these beautiful black bodies.
What is that?
jamie vernon
Something that I heard about before he got in trouble that this is why a lot of players didn't want to play for him because he was known to...
Bring people down in the locker room to look at his players showering and whatnot.
They're just like super uncomfortable.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
What is wrong with it?
Why is everyone so fucking creepy?
Why can't people be cool?
Be cool, man.
joe rogan
But hey, man, my idea about...
We go back to the...
eddie bravo
Watch your kids.
Watch your motherfucking kids.
joe rogan
Don't let your kids be around weird fucking agents and taking conditions.
eddie bravo
No, don't let your kids get into acting.
Do not let your kids get into that shit.
brendan schaub
Has it ever worked out?
joe rogan
Well, you know, the other thing is, like, look at what happened with that Sandusky guy.
That guy was taking care of kids.
Like, his whole thing was like, hey, I do charitable work with children.
You know, I do charitable work, and I take care of these kids.
Call it the summer camp.
Yeah, I'm just all about helping kids.
It's all about helping kids.
They're our future.
unidentified
How about that?
brendan schaub
How about Calum went to summer camp?
Guy's dick sucked by a counselor.
I think he got jacked off.
His friend guy's dick sucked.
eddie bravo
Damn.
unidentified
Damn.
How about that guy?
brendan schaub
It's funny because it's Callan.
I'm not advocating any of this.
eddie bravo
What's that famous guy who's a famous dude in the UK who died and then they found out?
What's that guy's name?
joe rogan
Jimmy Saville.
eddie bravo
That guy.
brendan schaub
What'd he do?
joe rogan
That guy was a kid fucker.
eddie bravo
He was super famous.
joe rogan
Yeah, super famous.
unidentified
For what?
eddie bravo
What did he do?
joe rogan
He had a big talk show in England.
He was like Benny Hill.
Yeah, that's the guy.
eddie bravo
No shit he fucks kids.
joe rogan
Look at the picture above him.
Look at that picture with the red glasses above with the crazy hair.
One more.
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
If you left your kid alone with that fucking guy, you should be slapped.
joe rogan
Imagine that guy putting his dick in your mouth.
eddie bravo
Is there a documentary on him?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
What's that called?
joe rogan
They kept this a secret for a long time because this guy was like a big star over there.
brendan schaub
Look at his motherfucking teeth.
eddie bravo
Who kept it a secret?
Like, the media?
joe rogan
The people that worked with him.
Like, everyone knew that he was a creep.
Louis Theroux.
Go back to that?
eddie bravo
What about law enforcement in the UK? You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Louis Theroux's new Jimmy Seville documentary is a horrible misstep.
Oh.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Louis Theroux is awesome.
I doubt that he fucked anything up.
That guy makes some of the best fucking documentaries going.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a monster.
eddie bravo
It's probably some...
joe rogan
Yeah, someone who's a hater.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Man, that is so heavy.
joe rogan
There's a lot of fucking haters out there.
eddie bravo
Dude, think about that.
Think about...
joe rogan
Donald Cerrone.
eddie bravo
All this shit that's going on.
joe rogan
Donald Cerrone.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
There is a lot of Jimmy Savile gropes teenager in newly released Louis Theroux footage.
Ugh.
brendan schaub
Powerful, shitty people.
eddie bravo
Have you seen the stuff that Joe Biden?
You know, Joe Biden, the former vice president?
Dude, there's videos on him, like, at the White House and taking pictures with kids, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, looking weird.
eddie bravo
Have you seen that, dude?
brendan schaub
Really, I haven't seen him.
eddie bravo
Have you seen that shit?
brendan schaub
He's, like, he's groping him and shit?
joe rogan
I just think he's super awkward with kids.
eddie bravo
Those guys, when you're untouchable...
When there's no way you're going to get busted for anything, murder, child molestation, dude, you don't give a fuck.
You just do it out of the open.
brendan schaub
I don't give a fuck who you are.
You grab my kid anywhere that's not appropriate.
eddie bravo
There's a lot of...
He's like, dude, that guy's a sick bastard.
brendan schaub
It looks like we said earmuffs there and just told her a secret.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, the problem is you're taking a screenshot.
eddie bravo
I've seen the videos.
I've heard the audio.
You could hear what he says to these kids.
joe rogan
What does he say?
eddie bravo
Creepy ass shit.
brendan schaub
Like what?
eddie bravo
He's taking pictures of all these kids and he's just whispering in their ear.
Oh, you're beautiful.
joe rogan
Biography of a big government creep.
unidentified
Ew.
eddie bravo
There's video of this.
brendan schaub
These are stills, but there's actually video of this shit.
joe rogan
And this is, by the way, what you're seeing in public, right?
eddie bravo
Yeah, he don't care.
They don't give a shit.
joe rogan
Well, that's not that he doesn't care.
It's just that's a small version of probably what he's like behind closed doors.
brendan schaub
If you're a big Hollywood actor, maybe you're not, and you didn't get sexually harassed, are you pissed off?
joe rogan
You're pissed off right now.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
You're like, what the fuck, man?
joe rogan
If you're an actress and you worked with Harvey Weinstein and you never tried to get to suck his dick, you're like, what is wrong with me?
unidentified
What the fuck is wrong with my face?
eddie bravo
They're really going after him.
That seems weird.
joe rogan
It doesn't seem weird, dude.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, they're going after him.
joe rogan
That guy's entire business.
Here's the thing.
He's one of many.
There's got to be a bunch of people that ran their business that way.
brendan schaub
But Weinstein, they say in Hollywood, my agent's like, oh no, yeah, it's about time he got caught.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Everyone knew this?
Everyone knew.
joe rogan
Did you see his contract?
It was in his contract.
The way he had his contract set up was like they had a certain amount of money that he would have to pay if he had a sexual harassment claim against him.
brendan schaub
It was a thing for him.
joe rogan
Yes.
He had so many claims.
First offense was $100,000.
Second offense was $250,000.
Third offense was $750,000.
Fourth offense was $1 million.
Get it written into his fucking contract.
What contract?
His contract with the Weinstein Company.
brendan schaub
He owned Miramax, right?
eddie bravo
I don't know.
Explain that contract.
He'd have to pay $100,000?
joe rogan
Yes.
They're protecting themselves from sexual harassment.
eddie bravo
When they sign him, they go, okay, the first time you fuck with one of these girls, it's going to be $100,000.
The second time, it's $200,000.
joe rogan
Holy shit!
That's how big of a problem it was.
It was so known of what he would do.
And look, even Quentin Tarantino said that he did it to his ex-girlfriend.
Quentin Tarantino said he knew about it.
Yeah, he did it to Mira Sorvina.
brendan schaub
Dude, and could Harvey Weinstein get any fucking uglier?
He is a hideous man.
eddie bravo
He's got a young ass wife.
joe rogan
He's so gross.
brendan schaub
He looks like a troll.
joe rogan
No, what he looks like is a sexual predator in a Harvey Weinstein movie.
brendan schaub
Correct.
Like if it was a shitty Lifetime movie, like, come on, let's do a little better than that.
That looks unrealistic.
He's hideous.
eddie bravo
I think, you know what, I think the big...
brendan schaub
He's so bad looking.
eddie bravo
Listen, listen.
The girls that he's harassing, most of them bitches are fucking trash anyways.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
Jesus Christ, Eddie.
I think they're distracting.
What about the kids?
Fuck them bitches.
What about the kids that's going on?
Let's focus on that.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think those girls are trash.
I think they're just actors.
But here's the question.
Here's the problem.
This is what Whitney told me.
brendan schaub
Whitney said- She knows her shit.
joe rogan
She knows her shit.
What she said is, there's a lot of girls that aren't saying a word because they did fuck them.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
And they fucked them for parts.
They fucked them for editing.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
They fucked them for a lot of things.
Well, Paltrow, that's the rumor.
But this is like a standard thing that Weinstein would do, and women agreed to it because he was a powerful motherfucker that could get them the world.
brendan schaub
Oh, hold up.
joe rogan
Make them superstars.
brendan schaub
However many, whatever 50 girls are coming out with claims against him, he's probably fucked 5,000 who aren't coming out.
joe rogan
I think that's probably a real number.
brendan schaub
And ridiculously hot girls we all know about.
Now, would I suck his dick to be the next Batman?
Yeah, probably, man.
joe rogan
Donald Cerrone, Darren Till.
eddie bravo
They need to focus on the kids.
joe rogan
There we go.
Well, that's certainly an issue, but that wasn't the thing with Harvey.
eddie bravo
It's a way bigger issue than these chicks trying to fuck for parts.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
Fuck them.
joe rogan
Well, don't you remember Bryan Singer?
Remember that guy who's the X-Men guy?
That guy got busted because some 17-year-old boy was saying that he got used by him at a party, and they would pass him around to all their friends, and they had all these boys.
eddie bravo
What guy?
joe rogan
Bryan Singer.
brendan schaub
From X-Files?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
X-Men.
brendan schaub
Oh, my bad.
joe rogan
X-Files.
brendan schaub
I thought you were talking about the guy with X-Files.
joe rogan
No, X-Men.
eddie bravo
Brian, the director.
joe rogan
The famous director.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that's the guy.
He's in the movie, An Open Secret.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
eddie bravo
It's about him.
brendan schaub
Hold up.
He was just some dude.
eddie bravo
The director of X-Men.
joe rogan
Here he goes.
Look at that.
The sad turn behind L.A. party scene that took down Bryan Singer.
He would have all these young boys with him.
And there's a picture of them at a pool.
It is fucking hilarious.
brendan schaub
Hilarious.
joe rogan
Scroll back up.
Look at this picture.
Look at him and all these young boys.
brendan schaub
That's him on the right?
joe rogan
That's him above with the glasses.
brendan schaub
Oh.
joe rogan
Or no, the one with the arm wrapped around.
brendan schaub
He looks like Yellow Bastard from Sin City.
joe rogan
Next to the guy with the glasses.
It's him with his arm wrapped around him.
brendan schaub
Oh, gotcha.
joe rogan
Wrapped around that boy, like, put his hand on the kid's chest.
That kid looks like he's all of 16, right?
So, there's a picture of him at a party that he threw at his place that is hilarious.
Where's that picture?
Because the party has all these young twinks in a pool, and the pool's lights are red, like they buttfuck so much that they just bled out and the whole pool became red.
brendan schaub
Oh my god, Joe.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Look at it, right there.
Tell me that doesn't look like that.
brendan schaub
What the fuck, man?
joe rogan
That's a party at Brian's house.
unidentified
Are they all...
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
brendan schaub
Are they all underage?
joe rogan
No, probably not.
brendan schaub
Nothing's wrong with if they're not underage.
joe rogan
I don't know how many of them were, but some of them apparently were underage.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
It just seems like...
brendan schaub
It's a cockfest.
eddie bravo
If you're a young boy and you're trying to be an actor in Hollywood or a singer, how are you going to avoid that shit?
joe rogan
Look at these fucking parties.
All these guys and hands on each other.
The thing about gay guys is a lot of gay guys...
Like guys that look younger.
They like cute guys.
Twinks.
Twinks.
They call them twinks.
You don't have a lot of hair.
Which is really funny because Andy, what the fuck's his name, the guy that runs Bravo.
unidentified
What's that guy's name?
brendan schaub
Oh, Andy Cullen.
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy.
He got in trouble for saying twink.
And he's gay.
brendan schaub
Really?
Yeah, he's gay as shit.
He's awesome.
joe rogan
People are just getting mad at everything.
What's Twink?
Twink is like a thin, hairless, well-groomed, young, skinny and shaped kid.
They call him Twinks.
unidentified
Guy.
brendan schaub
Sorry.
joe rogan
Darren Till walking into the octagon.
Let's actually watch this fight.
I get creeped out.
We all have kids.
brendan schaub
I feel sick after all that talk.
joe rogan
It makes me sick.
eddie bravo
Jesus Christ, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, Corey Feldman apparently has been talking a lot about it, too.
eddie bravo
Yeah, everyone thought he was crazy.
joe rogan
Well, he is crazy, but the question is, why is he crazy?
Like, is he crazy because he was molested?
I mean, he doesn't say, he doesn't name names, but maybe he will.
eddie bravo
If someone said 80% of kids in Hollywood or in the entertainment business have had some kind of run-in with someone trying to molest them, would you believe it?
joe rogan
Yes.
eddie bravo
80%?
joe rogan
I would say, I don't know, I don't want to give out crazy numbers.
I would say a large number.
brendan schaub
I wouldn't be surprised by it.
eddie bravo
Like the Russian Olympic team?
joe rogan
No, I don't think it's that bad.
Because I think there's legitimate agents, there's legitimate managers, and I think Disney has a pretty great record of putting on those kids' shows.
eddie bravo
They're probably legit, but those ones don't get any work.
It just seems like it accelerates, like they just hook each other up and they're just looking for, they're only going to...
joe rogan
Some of them do.
There's definitely predators that are organized.
Definitely.
brendan schaub
No one ever made any advances at you, Joe?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Never.
Nothing.
Not like, hey, come give me a background.
joe rogan
I had a comic.
A gay comic.
eddie bravo
Alex Jones said he got molested in Hollywood.
joe rogan
Alex Jones did?
brendan schaub
Alex Jones talked about that one.
joe rogan
He was probably roofing himself.
Walked into a party.
eddie bravo
Remember, he was in that movie with Keanu Reeves?
joe rogan
Put a camera on me.
eddie bravo
He was in a movie with Keanu Reeves.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
eddie bravo
That one animated called Awake or something?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Waking Life.
eddie bravo
Waking Life.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a great movie.
eddie bravo
He was in that.
joe rogan
He was driving.
This was before anybody knew who Alex was, and I was friends with him even back then.
But they animated him ranting, driving down the street.
See, play some of that.
Play some of that.
brendan schaub
There it is.
unidentified
Of enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line.
Lay down, GI! Lay down, GI! We saw it all through the 20th century.
And now in the 21st century, it's time to stand up and realize that we should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this rat maze.
We should not submit to dehumanization.
I don't know about you, but I'm concerned with what's happening in this world.
I'm concerned with the structure.
I'm concerned with the systems of control.
Those that control my life and those that seek to control it even more!
brendan schaub
I want freedom!
unidentified
That's what I want and that's what Jason wants!
joe rogan
My favorite all-time Alex Jones clip is when he keeps getting mad and swearing, then he says, I apologize.
unidentified
I shouldn't have said that.
joe rogan
And he's like a whole compilation of him freaking out.
brendan schaub
So he did that one movie and he got molested?
joe rogan
Instantly.
Even though he was animated, they molested his animated character.
eddie bravo
Hey, that's what he said on his show.
I don't know if it was during that movie, but...
joe rogan
Alex is at least 10% crazy, though.
You agree, right?
eddie bravo
What was that?
joe rogan
He's at least 10% crazy.
eddie bravo
But on the stuff that he reports on InfoWars, I would say he's about 85% correct.
joe rogan
That's probably a good number.
At least 80, right?
Like 80%, he's talking about some stuff that's probably legit.
Occasionally he goes off the rails into the woods.
That hurts him.
eddie bravo
Yeah, but that's okay.
You can't be 100% right.
joe rogan
No, but the problem is he's always looking for conspiracies that might not exist, and then people can discredit him because of the misses.
brendan schaub
You know what?
eddie bravo
When we're making all these accusations against criminals, a couple of them are not going to stick, and you might be wrong about a couple of murderers here and there, but they're still murderers.
So we should focus on the fact that Alex Jones on Infowars, if you think that's a fake news station, then you've been brainwashed.
Because that's where most of the truth is coming from.
It's coming from Infowars.
And the mainstream media is trying to convince you that Infowars is 100% fake news when they're the fake news.
brendan schaub
Bro, my man Cowboy needs Propecia.
joe rogan
Does it?
brendan schaub
Yeah, a little bit.
It looks like it's here saying, see ya, cowboy.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
You'll see it.
You'll see it.
Wait till you see it.
I love cowboy.
unidentified
Wait till you see it.
joe rogan
I think you just got messed up hair.
brendan schaub
Sir, wait till you see it.
eddie bravo
I like the see ya, cowboy part.
I thought that was funny, Brendan.
joe rogan
See ya.
Uh, maybe?
brendan schaub
No one has a receding hairline like that.
eddie bravo
I do.
My shit's way worse.
Look at mine.
brendan schaub
No, it is not, Eddie.
joe rogan
I like the new hairstyle you're rocking.
I like that.
brendan schaub
You look like a guy from Fury.
You seen that movie?
eddie bravo
You caught me freshly haircut.
I do this all the time, but when you see me, it grows out a little bit.
Once every two months, I cut my hair.
brendan schaub
We got a big day tomorrow, so you can cut your hair.
eddie bravo
Hell yeah, hell yeah.
You know Denny's doing combat jiu-jitsu tomorrow?
joe rogan
Oh shit, is he really?
brendan schaub
I put together a special match.
eddie bravo
It's an alternate match for the four-man tournament that Boogeyman's doing.
Boogeyman is doing combat jiu-jitsu.
Holy shit, think about that shit.
And then Denny is fighting another black belt in just an alternate single match, which is going to be like a little super fight.
joe rogan
So let me tell you what Vinny Shorman says about this guy, Darren Till, because Vinny Shorman's very high on him.
You know Vinny's a big-time Muay Thai commentator.
He knows a lot of shit about Muay Thai.
brendan schaub
Till's a monster.
joe rogan
He said Darren Till was beating men at 15 years of age, went to Romania, won an eight-man tournament, fought two fights with a broken foot at 17, started training under Colin Heron from Kabun, a guy who was a super Thai boxer himself, now successful MMA gym known as Colin for 30 years, a top coach.
Till's super determined, lived in Brazil too, and he's a real rags-to-riches story.
brendan schaub
He got stabbed.
He had to go to Brazil because he got stabbed twice.
eddie bravo
This guy right here?
Yeah.
joe rogan
He got stabbed in England?
eddie bravo
He's Brazilian?
brendan schaub
In Liverpool, his coach was like, yo man, if you want to be successful, you need to move to Brazil.
Move to Brazil, went undefeated there.
Just because of so much shit in Liverpool.
joe rogan
He got stabbed in Liverpool because people are so fucking crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's running with a rough cut.
eddie bravo
A lot of stabbing's going on.
brendan schaub
I saw a crazy statistic where the stabbing is through the roof, right?
eddie bravo
And no one's banning knives.
joe rogan
England has a lot of stabbing.
brendan schaub
I'd rather get stabbed than shot.
joe rogan
Well, if you ban knives, how are you going to cut your steak?
Alright, here we go.
Darren Till, Cowboy Cerrone.
brendan schaub
Scissors, Joe.
joe rogan
Here we go, here we go.
eddie bravo
Scissors.
brendan schaub
Look how big Till is, first of all.
joe rogan
Yeah, Till's a legit welterweight, and Donald just swung and missed with a leg kick.
brendan schaub
Donald's a slow starter, man.
This is a trouble fight for him.
joe rogan
Oh, Donald went for the takedown.
brendan schaub
Till's takedown defense is good.
joe rogan
Very good.
Till defended.
brendan schaub
Such a dangerous fight.
eddie bravo
He could have pulled guard right there.
joe rogan
Till's a super high-level kickboxer.
You see good distance control already?
brendan schaub
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
He just tagged him.
He clipped him.
Not clean.
brendan schaub
Did you hear how Till got this?
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
You've got to come forward at Donald if you're going to beat him.
You can't let him sit back and get comfortable.
joe rogan
Well, he's a bigger fighter, too.
Look up.
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
Dude.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
He just dinged him.
This is a bad fight for Cowboy.
eddie bravo
He's got to shoot and pull guard here.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is a bad fight for Cowboy.
eddie bravo
He's got to shoot and pull guard.
brendan schaub
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
He's getting tagged.
unidentified
Cowboy doesn't move his head, man.
joe rogan
Cowboy's firing back.
Cowboy's not out of it.
You gotta remember all the times Cowboy's been in trouble in the past.
brendan schaub
He's a slow starter, man.
Then once he gets going, he's trouble.
joe rogan
This guy legitimately might be the best striker he's fought.
unidentified
There it is.
eddie bravo
There it is.
This is his chance right here.
Jump on his back.
unidentified
Ooh, we've got good get-ups.
brendan schaub
He fought in Brazil, man.
You know what I'm saying?
He fought in some weird Brazil fights.
I'm sure he's been taking down a bunch.
joe rogan
Good defense.
Back up to his feet.
brendan schaub
I don't know anything about this guy.
eddie bravo
Fuck.
brendan schaub
I didn't either at first, and I talked shit about him.
He lashed out at me.
I did my research.
I went, oh, fuck.
This kid is a big deal.
eddie bravo
Oh, are you talking about this main event?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I was talking shit about him.
joe rogan
Good Knee of the Body by Cowboy.
eddie bravo
What's his name again?
joe rogan
Darren Till.
eddie bravo
Darren Till.
brendan schaub
Fascinating story.
Powerful Liverpool story.
joe rogan
Here's the thing.
Donald has been doing a lot of other shit, too.
Hasn't he been doing a movie?
brendan schaub
Movie, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, we clipped him.
brendan schaub
TV show, right?
joe rogan
Clipped him low.
Clipped him an uppercut there.
brendan schaub
And then you got young Till, who's a monster, who's just, this is all he's thinking about.
It's the biggest opportunity of his life.
joe rogan
Nice jab by Till.
Looking very good.
And good distance control on the feet.
brendan schaub
How relaxed he is for his first main event is crazy.
And he's fucking, I can't get over how big he is.
joe rogan
Oh, dude, he's tuning Cowboy up.
brendan schaub
And he just doesn't respect Cowboy's striking.
eddie bravo
His hands are low.
Look at how low his hands are.
He doesn't really give a shit.
joe rogan
Well, you got to think Cowboy's striking is good for MMA, but at the level that, you know, you're talking about like Glory or, you know, Lion Fight, like real high-level Muay Thai guy.
eddie bravo
How far did he go?
joe rogan
Darren, like I was just saying, won an eight-man tournament in Romania.
brendan schaub
Oh, fuck that up because it's nasty.
joe rogan
Vinny Shorman, who's a bit...
I'm trying to watch this and talk at the same time.
Vinny Shorman.
Oh, that's a good kick to the body by Cowboy.
Vinny Shorman's very high on this guy.
He says he's a very legit Muay Thai fighter.
brendan schaub
The people who are in the know in the business are super high in deer and tail.
Super, super high.
joe rogan
You're seeing it here just from his distance control and his footwork and movement.
Every time Cowboy's trying to kick him, he's just sliding away.
Look at his beautiful right jab, too.
And he's a southpaw, too.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
He's landing that straight left and he's set up and will land that uppercut.
He's done that twice to Cowboy.
unidentified
Cowboy keeps ducking down.
joe rogan
Cowboy's getting lit up, man.
He's getting lit up and he's not having much success.
brendan schaub
You know, if you're the UFC, though, and you're looking for fresh stars and new blood, this is what you do, isn't it?
joe rogan
Yeah, it is what you do.
And Cowboy's the guy that will fight anybody, anywhere, flies to fucking Poland to fight this kid.
And said, I didn't watch any footage on him.
I don't know shit about him.
I heard he's a good stand-up.
Good.
I love to strike.
brendan schaub
Which is why we love Cowboy, but it's a double-edged sword, isn't it?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, especially when you're a big name.
Cowboy's a huge name.
So for Cowboy to fight this guy, who is arguably one of the best strikers he's ever fought, and he didn't really look into him much.
brendan schaub
But it does nothing for Cowboy.
So you beat him, they go, yeah, you beat a guy we've never heard of.
You lose to him.
joe rogan
Oh, he just got hurt.
He just got hurt.
Darren just lit him up.
brendan schaub
This fucking...
Oh, fuck, bro!
This kid is fucking gnarly.
joe rogan
Cowboy's in big trouble.
brendan schaub
Knees till.
joe rogan
Cowboy's in big trouble.
Oh shit, this is it.
That elbow fucked him up.
That's it.
Cowboy just got stopped.
First round.
Smashed.
Ran through.
brendan schaub
What a story.
eddie bravo
Damn.
joe rogan
He just got ran through.
brendan schaub
I love Cowboy, but what a story.
joe rogan
We got a new contender here at 170. He just ran through Cowboy.
Just ran through him.
eddie bravo
Walked through him.
unidentified
Literally just smashed Donald Cerrone.
Wow.
joe rogan
Just smashed him.
eddie bravo
This guy has the ability to maybe, you know, contend for the belt.
joe rogan
Oh, 100%.
100%.
brendan schaub
His size?
eddie bravo
Him and Woodley?
brendan schaub
Dude, he's only 24. 24 with that extensive of a striking.
joe rogan
And he just turned into a fucking star.
At least in our small group of MMA fans.
brendan schaub
This is on Fight Pass.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
There might be 40,000 people watching.
Us talking about it.
joe rogan
It might not even be 40,000.
I highly doubt it.
But this is bigger than that.
Like, however, watching this.
brendan schaub
You put a YouTube video taking a piss.
It gets more views than this.
joe rogan
Oh, we have 40,000 watching on here.
brendan schaub
Yeah, we're beating them.
Yeah, we're beating them.
joe rogan
But then when it goes for iTunes.
eddie bravo
It used to be like 2,000.
Remember those days?
1,200.
1,500.
joe rogan
But look at that elbow he landed on him.
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
He tuned Cowboy up.
I mean, that is just an absolute beating.
brendan schaub
I hate seeing it for Cowboy.
And this is the reason why Cowboy's so big, but then it's also like, it fucked you, man, because you're never going to be a world champion fighting like this.
joe rogan
Well, it's also Cowboy has had a few of these fights recently.
Masvidal beat the shit out of him.
You know, the Robbie Lawler fight, his last fight was a rough fight.
brendan schaub
I don't think Cowboy won that fight, but it was a controversial fight.
Back to the judges.
Some people think Cowboy won.
I think Cowboy lost that fight 2-1.
joe rogan
I think he lost too, because especially Robbie really came on strong in that last round.
brendan schaub
The first round, if you have 10-8, it'd be a draw.
joe rogan
Cowboy's shaking his head.
His nose is smashed.
brendan schaub
He's lost three in a row, brother.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's a rough go when you're cowboy's age.
joe rogan
Lost three in a row and just got murked by a young kid.
A 24-year-old kid just lit him on fire.
brendan schaub
24-year-old stud, though.
At least it's not just some random fucking guy.
That's why you don't fight randoms in Poland, though.
joe rogan
Right.
eddie bravo
And plus, he should be at 55. He's a 55er.
unidentified
Yes.
eddie bravo
I mean, he's one of those guys that went up to 170, like Dos Anjos, and generally, that doesn't work.
brendan schaub
I don't know if you can say that, though.
It does work, though.
eddie bravo
I mean, not that often.
unidentified
How often?
brendan schaub
Because we were just talking about Kevin Lee.
eddie bravo
Cowboys killed himself at 55. But he was dominant at 55, Cowboy.
brendan schaub
Never championed.
He got close to a bell at 70 than he did at 55. Yeah.
joe rogan
Did he?
brendan schaub
Well, I mean, he lost the belt at 55. This is what we have to worry about.
joe rogan
We have to worry about how the Cowboy show ends.
Because Cowboy getting stopped like that in this fight, you've got to wonder how many more of those are we going to see and what toll is that going to take on Cowboy.
Because of that style that he has, because of the fact that he's willing to fight anybody, and because of the fact that he spends his money like water.
brendan schaub
That's the game you play, though.
It's Cowboy.
That's the persona he has.
You're Cowboy.
You fight anyone anywhere.
And then once that stops, it's a bummer.
unidentified
I know that.
joe rogan
What I'm saying is we've got to worry about how this story ends.
Because when you're 34, you don't get younger.
You just get older.
brendan schaub
But he's still a name, so how many more fights will they give him?
Ooh, look at this.
joe rogan
Look at that.
That fucking right-left combo.
He just landed on him.
We should back this up and watch it again.
Because he tuned him up.
brendan schaub
I'd love to hear what Till's saying.
joe rogan
Look at this.
brendan schaub
I can't get over how fucking big this kid is, man, for that weight class.
joe rogan
Give me some volume, Jeremy.
brendan schaub
He's giving Cowboy a lot of love.
joe rogan
He's amazing for that as well. - Dan Hardy speaks English too.
He knows what he's saying.
You know, English, English.
From England.
unidentified
Mike Perry.
brendan schaub
Mike Perry will jump in that fucking cage.
joe rogan
He will fuck Mike Perry.
Who is that guy?
brendan schaub
Mike Perry?
joe rogan
Platinum Mike Perry.
He's a tough guy.
He's a knockout artist.
He knocked out Jake Ellenberger.
unidentified
He's a tough guy.
joe rogan
Oh yes, he fought out Joban.
Joban outstruck him.
brendan schaub
Till would piece him up, I think.
He's crazy, man.
joe rogan
He is crazy, but skill-wise...
brendan schaub
He's nowhere near, too.
joe rogan
He's not even on the same planet.
Not even in the same part of the universe.
brendan schaub
All he does is really box, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, he's an animal.
I mean, Mike Perry's a fucking animal, no doubt about it.
unidentified
Animal.
eddie bravo
Is he English?
joe rogan
He's a strong guy.
He's got some serious power.
brendan schaub
Perry's from here.
joe rogan
Perry's from Florida.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Strong guy with serious power, but he's way out class.
brendan schaub
When he fights a really good striker like Joe Banson with footwork, they just avoid the big shot and just pick him apart.
But if you play that game, he will knock you to fucking Pluto.
joe rogan
This is a different guy, though.
This Darren Till, this is a different guy.
You know what I wish?
brendan schaub
Jamie, where's the remote...
joe rogan
Run that bitch back.
Let's watch this again.
brendan schaub
I wish they would, and obviously they can't because you need the fight on Fight Pass, but I wish they would air it tomorrow on Fox Sports so Till gets more recognition.
Because how many people are going to see this beatdown?
joe rogan
That's a good question, but the thing is, like, if they aired on Fox Sports, does Fox Sports own it then?
How does that work?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
You do something.
joe rogan
Look, he's got a Brazilian flag with his English flag.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because he lived there for a while, training.
joe rogan
That's wild, man.
brendan schaub
For like eight years, I think.
A while, man.
joe rogan
Eight years.
So he was like a little kid when he went over.
That is so nuts.
He's 24 years old, and this motherfucker's already this good.
Goddamn.
Which says, doom!
Come on, man.
That is so crisp.
eddie bravo
What show did he come up on?
joe rogan
I don't know.
jamie vernon
It's only going back to this.
joe rogan
Vinny just texted me.
He says, I told you he is special.
brendan schaub
Well, but a lot of oddsmakers barely had Cowboy as the favorite.
Cowboy was like a minus 120. So there's a reason for it, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, but...
brendan schaub
The people in the know know Till's a fucking monster.
joe rogan
Crazy shit, man.
brendan schaub
It's interesting he called out Mike Perry after that.
Maybe he just wants to get another win, but Mike Perry's not ranked very high.
eddie bravo
Is he ranked in Jiu-Jitsu?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's a good question.
brendan schaub
Take down the fence.
eddie bravo
He's down in Brazil.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he was there.
He also speaks Portuguese.
eddie bravo
I'm sure.
brendan schaub
So have him fight Brazil.
eddie bravo
It'd be interesting.
brendan schaub
Right?
eddie bravo
Yeah, I think the Brazilians would totally back him.
joe rogan
Look at this shit.
You could just put up some stuff from your phone.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's watch the fight again.
jamie vernon
I'm trying to rewind it.
unidentified
It won't let you rewind it?
joe rogan
I don't think you can.
Yeah, you can, but you have to use the remote and click on it and then scroll backwards.
Just doing that.
Is it because it's streaming?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I think so.
brendan schaub
It's still going on.
unidentified
Yeah, it's still going on.
brendan schaub
Cowboy's nose looks fucked.
joe rogan
It looks fucked.
brendan schaub
Broken nose.
joe rogan
I feel for the dude.
brendan schaub
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
Is it my phone?
Yeah, it is my phone.
brendan schaub
I love Cowboy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love him too.
brendan schaub
When you take a fight like that, you know?
joe rogan
But it's what we're saying.
It's like, how does that story end?
brendan schaub
How does anyone's story end though, Joe?
joe rogan
Yeah, but how does this story end is very different than how does the George St. Pierre story end.
George St. Pierre retires.
Now he's coming back.
He's fighting Bisping.
The cowboy story is different because cowboy...
Was never the champion, and he loves this rough-and-tumble life.
He loves the fact that he can just get on a flight and fight in Poland and go and kick this young kid's ass, but when it doesn't work out like this, he just made a star.
Like, he let a dude become a star off him.
Like, for guys like us and people that visit the websites, look at that fucking straight one-two, man.
And that elbow in the clinch.
He's setting them up with a lot of shit, too.
Like, throwing the straight left, but then turning it into an uppercut.
Yeah.
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
Goddamn.
joe rogan
He dropped it on him, too.
eddie bravo
I wish we had another angle of that.
brendan schaub
It's weird because his fights before this, you would see his stand-up is good, but he was winning by decisions.
He won a split decision.
He had a draw.
Really?
Yeah.
eddie bravo
What?
Maybe...
brendan schaub
He wasn't knocking people's socks off early on.
eddie bravo
Maybe...
Cowboy had a terrible training camp, or maybe the jet lag just fucked him.
joe rogan
No, I think this dude's just realizing he's just that good.
brendan schaub
I think he's getting comfortable, yeah.
joe rogan
He's that good.
He's 24, and he's also realizing.
Look, just watching his movement in this, I'm not saying Cowboy had a bad training camp.
I'm saying this kid's a motherfucker.
The way he landed that uppercut, the way he landed that one-two, that jab left, like...
Mike Perry asking for this fight is like, I guess he's there.
brendan schaub
No, Tilt called him out.
joe rogan
I know.
Which is weird.
He said he wants to fight him.
No, because he's a name.
Mike Perry's a name.
brendan schaub
God, from Cowboy to Perry, though.
joe rogan
Good fight.
Fun fight.
He's going to fight a brawler.
Let's him show his skills.
I mean, I would think that's a good fight for him.
Look, this dude's just standing in front of him.
brendan schaub
Great matchup for him.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a great matchup for him.
brendan schaub
Perry has a fight already, though.
joe rogan
Who's he got to fight?
brendan schaub
I forget, but I'm pretty sure he has a matchup already.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Very interesting.
Just a difference in the level of technique, you know?
And what Till can do.
He can do everything.
You know, he's not just a guy who just wades in and throws haymakers.
I mean, he's like very, very technically proficient.
brendan schaub
His size is going to be an issue for people.
joe rogan
But hey, look, he could get fucking knocked out.
Mike Perry could knock out anybody.
You fuck up and you zig when you shoot a zag.
brendan schaub
Oh, there you go.
That's a great fight.
joe rogan
That's a fucking tough fight for him, too.
brendan schaub
That's a great fight.
joe rogan
Santiago Ponzinobio is a beast.
brendan schaub
Santiago just beat Gunnar Nelson.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
It was with a finger poke, but still.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was a fucked up finger poke.
It was more than one finger poke.
brendan schaub
Well, he beat him by finger poke.
He didn't knock him out, he beat him by finger poke.
joe rogan
Well, he stopped him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the finger pokes were so fucked up.
joe rogan
Yeah, so fucked up.
And when you see the replay of the finger pokes, you're like, wait a minute.
It almost looks like he threw it as a part of his combination.
unidentified
Like four times.
eddie bravo
I didn't see that fight.
Did Gunner ever get him to the ground?
brendan schaub
No.
Gunner got fucked up early on.
From the eye pokes.
If you don't watch it, like in slow-mo, if you just watch it, oh my god, Gunner looks like shit.
He's getting rocked.
What's going on here?
You go back and watch it in slow-mo, and it's just eye poke.
Poke.
unidentified
Poke.
brendan schaub
Against the cage.
joe rogan
Poke.
unidentified
Motherfucker threw an uppercut like that.
brendan schaub
Fucking poked both eyes.
joe rogan
Here's the stoppage again.
Ding, ding, ding.
Oh, man.
eddie bravo
The elbow already did it.
joe rogan
Yeah, everything did it.
I mean, he just beat the shit out of him, man.
And Cowboy just crumpled.
When was the last time you saw Cowboy do this?
This is like Dos Anjos.
brendan schaub
Pettis days, maybe?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dos Anjos.
joe rogan
Well, Pettis was just a kick to the body.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but he crumbled, you know what I'm saying?
Like it wasn't even a competition.
joe rogan
Rough, man.
brendan schaub
Rough.
Heartbreaking.
joe rogan
Yeah, fucking real heartbreaker, man.
But, for that kid, you know, that's a goddamn dream.
brendan schaub
Tells a great story.
Good kid, too.
And obviously, you've got to build stars.
joe rogan
That's how you do it.
brendan schaub
Not on Fight Pass, but yes.
joe rogan
That's what happens.
Right, not on Fight Pass.
brendan schaub
No, that's not the way to do it.
joe rogan
Does UFC give out the numbers on Fight Pass?
Like, do they tell you?
brendan schaub
Nope.
unidentified
They don't even tell you.
brendan schaub
They're like Netflix.
eddie bravo
No numbers.
joe rogan
Smart move, right?
Why give it up when you don't have to?
brendan schaub
You give it up if you're killing it.
joe rogan
So, okay, let's look at this, man.
I mean, shit, dude.
Bisping versus GSP. Now, I'm hearing that that's not selling well, like Madison Square Garden.
brendan schaub
Yeah, from what I've heard, too, it's not doing great.
joe rogan
Hmm.
brendan schaub
That's unfortunate.
eddie bravo
Which one's not doing great?
joe rogan
GSP? GSP vs.
Bisping.
eddie bravo
It's not doing great.
brendan schaub
Not like you'd think, no.
joe rogan
Here's the thing, though.
That's what I've heard.
If you really stop and think about it, that was four years ago was the last time you fought Johnny Hendricks.
The people that are into the UFC now, they're post-Ronda Rousey and post...
Conor McGregor, like the casual fans.
brendan schaub
Post Lesnar.
joe rogan
The hardcore fans like you and I, we're going to watch that fight for sure.
Like, okay, I'm going to see what Bisping looks like, you know, fighting a guy like George St. Pierre who's smaller than him, a guy who's taken four years off.
Bisping's got this opportunity to make a shitload of money.
And then George, how's George going to look?
brendan schaub
It's a tough sell.
joe rogan
I haven't seen him in four years.
brendan schaub
It's a tough sell, even for the hardcore fan.
eddie bravo
No, that's a great fight.
brendan schaub
That's a great fight.
eddie bravo
Bisping and GSP is going to be a great fight.
joe rogan
I'm looking forward to it, for sure.
eddie bravo
People keep, even now, people keep, they don't give Bisping the respect.
joe rogan
I agree.
eddie bravo
He keeps winning.
brendan schaub
He's not going to get it, even if he beats GSP. That's the problem.
He took four years off.
And he's a seven-year.
eddie bravo
And it doesn't matter if it doesn't sell two billion.
Fuck the casual fans.
Fuck them.
We got enough real UFC fans.
brendan schaub
No, you don't.
eddie bravo
All we care about is the match-ups.
That's a good match-up.
brendan schaub
No, you don't.
The world doesn't work like that.
joe rogan
But we don't run the business.
So for us, Eddie's right.
I agree with Eddie.
As long as they're putting these fights on, I think it's a great fight.
brendan schaub
Hold on.
You two would rather watch GSB who's taken four years off fight for the middleweight title than him fight a guy who's an actual champ at 85 like Whitaker.
eddie bravo
Yeah, I don't mind.
I'm in no hurry.
joe rogan
That's not what we're saying.
First of all, Whitaker's injured and he can't fight right now.
Whitaker has a pretty serious tear in his knee ligament.
So that's one thing.
This is also an opportunity for Bisping, who's been in the game forever, to make a shitload of money.
I like that.
I like Michael.
I like the fact that Michael has an opportunity to make a fuckload of money here.
So you need it to sell well?
No, I don't need it to sell well, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you do.
But if you want him to make money, it has to sell well.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I'm not in the business of selling pay-per-views well.
I'm in the business of I want to see good fights.
brendan schaub
I know, brother, but you just said you wanted him to make a lot of money.
joe rogan
Well, he's going to make a lot of money either way.
He's going to make more money in this fight.
I guarantee there's some sort of a guarantee.
brendan schaub
Pay-per-view points where you make your money.
Like your life-changing money is pay-per-view points.
Ask Mighty Mouse.
Ask John Jones.
Ask Conor McGregor.
joe rogan
I'm sure.
But don't you think that George St. Pierre is at least going to do half a million pay-per-view buys?
Maybe more.
brendan schaub
I'd like to think so.
It'd be heartbreaking if he doesn't.
joe rogan
I like to think he's gonna do at least a half a million, maybe more.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
I think around 700. This stuff's weirded me out, man.
This weird shit that he's doing where they're touching things, he's moving things and touching things with his feet.
brendan schaub
Have you seen how jacked he looks?
joe rogan
He looks jacked.
brendan schaub
He looks super swole.
joe rogan
What if he pisses hot?
eddie bravo
I don't think he cares.
I think if he's just one and done, he's like, hey, I fought, whatever, I'm gone, see ya.
joe rogan
So I did not know...
eddie bravo
And when you get popped to get half your money, your win money taken away?
brendan schaub
25%.
joe rogan
Yeah, they take some of your money.
brendan schaub
Only 25%, though.
eddie bravo
Even if you won?
brendan schaub
Yeah, look at Lesnar.
My bad, huh?
25%.
Here you go.
unidentified
Give me this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm very curious about this fight.
Very curious.
brendan schaub
Listen, I'm balls deep in MMA. I think it's a fun fight.
It's not the fight that I'm not throwing at the mouth for.
eddie bravo
It's a lot harder to take people down these days, too.
The GSP was taking everyone down five years ago.
unidentified
It's damn tough to take down.
eddie bravo
Yeah, it's going to be a little harder.
brendan schaub
I'm not sure the GSP is going to be able to take people down like he did five years ago.
eddie bravo
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
I'll tell you what, I think you're probably right.
brendan schaub
This matchup, it's alright.
It's by nowhere near the best fight on the card.
You look at that card, it's a fucking heater.
joe rogan
You think that's a recent picture of George?
brendan schaub
No, not at all.
joe rogan
No?
brendan schaub
Not at all.
joe rogan
I think it is.
brendan schaub
You think?
He doesn't look as good?
joe rogan
He's a little soft.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's fair, yeah, alright.
A little bit.
joe rogan
Like, look, we just saw Kevin Lee.
brendan schaub
He's thicker than a Snickers down there.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
How about fucking he's thick?
That's a...
brendan schaub
Johnny Hendrix in that bitch.
He looks like Mark Coleman.
joe rogan
Kind of heavy, like around the middle.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Eating a lot.
But there's a big difference between that and Kevin Lee, right?
Kevin Lee was j-j-j-j-jacked!
brendan schaub
Jacked.
joe rogan
When he was on top, that picture of him on top of Tony when he was dropping bombs on him?
brendan schaub
Jacked.
joe rogan
Jacked.
George does not look that good.
But then again, if he's clean, which he kind of has to be...
brendan schaub
Have to be.
joe rogan
I think he's 35 now?
brendan schaub
He's not young.
joe rogan
How old is George?
He's 35. You can be in great shape at 35, but really, it completely helps if you were super active for a long time.
Are we looking at the tip of his dick in that picture?
What's that all about?
brendan schaub
He has a fat dick, if that's so.
joe rogan
Why don't you guys Photoshop that out, please?
Dude, he has a fat dick in that picture.
That's all I can see now.
Look at Mike Perry here.
First of all, send that fucking jacket in a time machine back to the 80s.
brendan schaub
I think I have that jacket, but...
joe rogan
Crank the volume up, and Jamie, let's hear what he has to say.
brendan schaub
He's gonna drop some F-bombs, I guarantee it.
unidentified
Damn!
brendan schaub
He's a tough one.
eddie bravo
He sounds like a rapper.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he's got a tattoo above his eyebrow.
unidentified
Sounds like he's about to drop some sick beats.
Yeah, he looked good against Donald.
Against Donald Taroni.
Donald That's not the cowboy that wins fights That was Donald that That shows up man And I wasn't happy with Donald's performance I haven't seen him fight a lot better Donald was a merc Perry Whoa that that's not what we're going to see Donald didn't look great.
brendan schaub
I'll give him that.
joe rogan
This should keep Mike Perry off the microphone from now on.
unidentified
Like, hey.
brendan schaub
I like this.
I think you need to join Limp Bizkit.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
Enjoying Limp Bizkit?
What does that mean?
brendan schaub
Well, he sounds like a white rapper.
unidentified
Oh.
Do-do-do-do-do.
Do you feel like that win catapulted him up towards the top ten and put him on an even playing field with you?
Do you still feel like you're ahead of him?
joe rogan
Mike Perry.
unidentified
He's got a great record.
I'm number 15.
I don't know where that puts him on the rankings, but rankings don't matter.
They've never mattered since I got here.
brendan schaub
It's fair.
unidentified
How hard I hit you with my right and my left hand.
He wants to box.
I look forward to any MMA fighter that want to box with me.
Santiago Ponzinibbio is going to be the first example of that.
joe rogan
The dude is right.
What's that guy's name?
The guy with the bow tie?
brendan schaub
I don't know, but he seems scared.
He seems scared to say anything.
unidentified
This makes me uncomfortable My player looks mad at the world I have plenty of time to gather myself Get myself deep in my training camp Focus on The things, the aspects of Santiago's game And do what I gotta do to Focus on him And beat him
and very similar styles in What's that face?
joe rogan
Very similar style.
brendan schaub
I mean, not similar at all, sir.
I guess they both throw punches, correct?
unidentified
It's weird talking about that fight when you have a huge fight.
joe rogan
Be careful what you wish for.
Look at him rocking back and forth very emotional.
eddie bravo
I like him.
joe rogan
Very intense.
That motherfucker hits hard.
brendan schaub
Hits like a Mack truck.
He's like Lineker.
He reminds me a lot of Lineker.
He's just a fucking nightmare if you get hit by him.
But if you can avoid it, it's an easy game plan.
joe rogan
It's a Jake Ellenberger fight, man.
When he caught Jake with that big fucking elbow.
brendan schaub
Dude, but that November 4th guard.
First of all, Cody Garbrandt, Dillashaw.
Fucking ridiculous fight.
joe rogan
Very, very interesting fight.
brendan schaub
Ioana, Rose.
Ridiculous.
eddie bravo
That's ridiculous.
brendan schaub
Dude, Wonderboy, Masvidal.
Fuck you.
joe rogan
Love it.
Love it.
brendan schaub
Then the big rig's back.
joe rogan
Big rig's back.
brendan schaub
He got rid of the steakhouse.
He might make weight.
I can't promise you, but he's back.
joe rogan
He's at Jackson's now.
brendan schaub
Nah.
That's like moving to Florida when you're older.
unidentified
That's just what people do when they get out of here.
brendan schaub
It's like a retirement home.
You're like, I'll try out Jackson.
joe rogan
Let's go to Albuquerque.
I'm going to try a real camp.
brendan schaub
Yeah, let's try this out.
joe rogan
It was interesting listening to what Johnny Hendricks was saying about training in Texas.
He was like, I got to be careful when I spar with people because if I go too hard, then they won't come back.
I'm like, dude, you gotta find a real camp.
brendan schaub
Yeah, what?
Any camp I remember, you go too hard to get fucked up.
Go to AKA and let me know how that goes.
joe rogan
Well, that's what he was saying.
He was saying, finally, I can go to Jackson's and I'm getting pushed.
He's like, where I am in Texas, I'm just not getting pushed.
brendan schaub
But he left that team takedown, remember?
They had some gnarly dudes there.
He left them.
joe rogan
There was a lot of shit going on with that, though.
You know how that worked.
He had a weird deal.
brendan schaub
They had like 20% of all the shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They gave him a salary, and then they took half his money.
But the thing is, the guy put a lot of money into everything, so I see his perspective, too.
It's like they put together a training facility, they hired all these coaches, they had all this stuff going on, they paid for everything, they gave him a salary, and then when it came time for that investment to pay off, they wanted half the money.
And I don't know how they...
How they, you know, worked it out.
brendan schaub
If you're Johnny Hendrick, though, and you're a national champion from Oklahoma State, and someone's like, hey, eventually we're going to take 50%.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Fuck you, man.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Well, I think what happened was, you know, once he started getting that world championship money, you know, that's probably when he was like, hey.
brendan schaub
He's like, 50%?
Then he opened the Big Rick Steakhouse, which God bless him.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
That's the bigger problem.
Opening a restaurant is like notoriously one of the worst investments you could ever make.
brendan schaub
Restaurants and gyms.
joe rogan
A lot of celebrities go under.
Gyms are bad, right?
But gyms don't have the same kind of overhead that a restaurant does.
brendan schaub
And the dynamics of a restaurant.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They just don't go well.
And if you get a couple of bad reviews, you don't bounce back.
brendan schaub
Game over, son.
eddie bravo
Unless it's a Mexican restaurant, you don't have to have a clean restaurant if it's Mexican food.
brendan schaub
You're not making money.
eddie bravo
You don't have to be nice.
You know, like...
Remember we show up to El Torito?
What was that place on Fairfax?
brendan schaub
Is it not El Torito?
joe rogan
What is that place?
eddie bravo
Los Benitos.
joe rogan
Benitos.
Benitos Burritos.
eddie bravo
You show up and it's like a little taco shop and there's a Mexican guy in the back.
He's making a burrito.
And you say, hey.
And he looks over.
You go, hey, can I get two carne asadas?
And the guy just kind of looks at you and he's like waves at you or kind of just nods at you.
And you're like, cool, this is going to be a great place.
If that was a white guy that did that, they'd be shut down.
brendan schaub
If it's a I'll put up with it.
joe rogan
They're so good.
brendan schaub
I don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Bonitos is 24 hours a day.
What is it, on Beverly?
eddie bravo
On Beverly and Fairfax.
brendan schaub
Goddamn, I'm hungry now.
joe rogan
It's so good.
brendan schaub
Oh, you can call me Cracker and make my burrito.
unidentified
I don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
It's so good.
That place is off the charts.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, and it's a 24-hour joint, so it's like a late-night after-comedy store.
A post-make that shit.
Chicken burrito stop.
eddie bravo
People don't care.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
You'll go there at 1 o'clock in the morning.
You might wait 20 minutes in line because there's a big-ass line.
eddie bravo
There's a Mexican restaurant in the valley.
They closed down for a week because they got shut down for rodent infestation.
It was in the newspaper and everything.
My wife sent me the link.
brendan schaub
As soon as they reopened, we were waiting in line like Backstreet Boys tickets or something.
eddie bravo
We don't care.
We ate there yesterday.
We don't give a shit.
brendan schaub
They closed down the kitchen because they had too many rodents.
If it's good food too, I'll put up with it, man.
eddie bravo
I'll put up with a lot of stuff.
And Chinese food, same thing.
They don't have to be nice.
You know, when you go to Chinese food and there's a big group of you guys, they're like mean and shit.
unidentified
They're like, And no one cares.
joe rogan
If it's authentic.
eddie bravo
But if it's white, oh, you can't, white, you gotta be high.
Of course.
brendan schaub
You have to be really nice if you're white.
joe rogan
You know what I need to get back to?
There's a fucking Thai place that Rob came and took me to.
In Thai Town, you know where Thai Town is?
I guess it's on Hollywood or Sunset.
Sunset or Hollywood?
Hollywood.
Hollywood, when you go east, if you go east on Hollywood, there's a whole section of, you know where it's from?
It's right across the street from Jumbo's Clown Room.
You know that strip club, Jumbos?
Everybody always makes fun of it.
eddie bravo
I don't know anything about strip clubs.
joe rogan
Yeah, I hear you.
Me neither.
But that's what I hear.
But it's right across the street and it's like legit late night Thai food.
So good.
brendan schaub
I fucking love Thai food, man.
joe rogan
So good.
Legit.
I know you've eaten there, Eddie.
I know we've eaten there together.
eddie bravo
On Hollywood Boulevard?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Oh, you mean Toy?
joe rogan
No, not that place.
That's on Sunset.
eddie bravo
That's a good spot, too.
What street are you talking about?
joe rogan
It's way further down.
eddie bravo
On Hollywood?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's on Hollywood.
eddie bravo
It's Thai Patio?
joe rogan
Maybe.
It's on the right-hand side.
eddie bravo
Hollywood Boulevard on the north side.
joe rogan
You know what it is?
You know how you go down Hollywood and you almost have that arch that you pass through that takes you into Thai Town?
unidentified
Arch.
joe rogan
Isn't there an arch?
Am I imagining shit?
brendan schaub
Arch in the Thai town sounds awesome.
eddie bravo
That's the one.
The one with the yellow.
Look at this.
joe rogan
What is that?
brendan schaub
The fuck, Jamie?
joe rogan
What is this?
eddie bravo
This chick wants to be black.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
This is the chick from Maury Povich that Eddie was talking about earlier.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here.
unidentified
Maury Povich.
brendan schaub
Fuck her want to be black.
Look at them titties.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Is that real?
eddie bravo
There's video of this.
Can you play a video clip of this guy?
brendan schaub
Oh my god.
joe rogan
What a non sequitur, by the way.
Jamie just pulled up this.
brendan schaub
Jamie said, fuck your time.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
Give me some volume.
unidentified
Look at this.
brendan schaub
Does she talk black?
eddie bravo
Yes.
joe rogan
The Maury Povich Show, Can You Change Your Race?
unidentified
He's still killing it.
joe rogan
He's like quietly making millions.
unidentified
Now at this age, Martina desperately wanted to look like Pamela Anderson.
So after 10 years and several cosmetic surgeries, Martina transformed her looks into this.
But she wasn't done.
Six months ago, Martina made worldwide headlines with her most shocking transformation through chemical injections and body modification.
Martina now considers herself a black woman.
- Oh! - Here's your story.
joe rogan
- Chemicals.
- Look at the black.
unidentified
- What?
brendan schaub
- It's an all black crowd?
unidentified
- Yeah, it's an all black crowd. - I wanted to look like a Barbie.
brendan schaub
Oh, she's not American.
unidentified
a more beautiful body.
- Look at that! - Like a Barbie with long blonde hairs and long legs, but much bigger breasts.
- Martina began to dream about having plastic surgery to look like her idol, Pamela Anderson.
Oh my god, this bitch is crazy.
brendan schaub
Bitch, you look nothing like her.
unidentified
Look at those fucking basketball surgeries began.
brendan schaub
Well, the teeth make sense.
unidentified
Wow.
Whoa.
brendan schaub
This is the biggest titties I've ever seen.
joe rogan
They're so stupid looking.
It just has to sit down.
unidentified
And I also had a liposuction to get long barbie necks.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Liposuction.
Titties.
unidentified
Oh my god.
I got three injections in my belly to change my skin color.
What?
And now, I'm the proud owner of a black skin.
Today, Martina says she is black.
She is black, though.
brendan schaub
She is black.
To be fair, she's a black woman.
joe rogan
Look at her hair.
jamie vernon
Do you think that's just skin, the fake tan, they just went over and did a lot of fake tans?
brendan schaub
I've never seen a fake tan that's all black.
There she comes, look at her.
joe rogan
Look at those stupid tits.
brendan schaub
Those tits are so distracting.
joe rogan
Those are so preposterous.
God, we are sick.
What the fuck?
brendan schaub
She looks for her.
joe rogan
There's some white people in there.
brendan schaub
Does she use the N-word?
unidentified
Take a look.
jamie vernon
I mean, I've heard of people doing fake things on Maury before, tricking them, just making up a story.
Hold on.
eddie bravo
But those tits can't be fake!
joe rogan
What is she saying?
Hold on.
eddie bravo
Maybe they can be.
unidentified
I don't like myself, but I also like to do photos.
But on the photos, I can see if you have the curves of Pamela Anderson, the photos would be much more better.
So you want her to look like Pamela Anderson because you like her curves?
Yeah.
And so then you became what you thought was Pamela Anderson.
A little bit more.
But now...
eddie bravo
Fake little fake tit thing that goes over her shoulders and her arms.
That's how they do it in movies.
joe rogan
Yeah, it could be.
It sure doesn't look like it.
What does it say on her neck?
brendan schaub
Black...
eddie bravo
Black souls rock.
brendan schaub
Black gods rock.
eddie bravo
Black souls rock.
jamie vernon
Black souls rock.
eddie bravo
Oh, girls.
brendan schaub
Whoa, look at that.
unidentified
She's so dark.
I want to see her boyfriend.
brendan schaub
She's single as fuck, son.
She has seven cats.
eddie bravo
Can we just pass forward to the boyfriend?
Maybe there's a boyfriend in there.
brendan schaub
No, there's no boyfriend, bro.
eddie bravo
Are you sure?
joe rogan
There's no boyfriend.
unidentified
No boyfriend's shown his face.
Shit.
brendan schaub
What the fuck?
unidentified
Yep.
Yep.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no!
unidentified
I have to learn a lot.
I know.
joe rogan
You have to learn a lot.
unidentified
I see.
brendan schaub
Her skin is black.
But you're not a black person.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
All people came from Africa originally.
The only reason why people have white skin at all is because we moved to colder climates, it was more cloudy, and we didn't have vitamin D. So you're basically like a solar panel for vitamin D. That's what white people are.
That's why people in England are so fucking pale, because it's always raining.
And that's exactly what it is.
Everyone came from Africa.
All human beings came from Africa.
So, she's not really black because that's not really her natural skin color.
eddie bravo
Dude, that is the greatest thing you've ever said for mankind.
brendan schaub
She's not black for a lot of reasons.
joe rogan
It's a giant problem that people have with this idea of race.
Like, the only reason why people look different is because we move to different climates.
Like, everyone comes out of the same thing.
Sort of like all dogs come from wolves.
All humans come from Africa.
All of them.
Everybody originated there.
That's the motherland.
So the only reason why they look different than you is because of natural selection, because the people that live there, obviously you need that melanin in your skin to protect you from the sun.
That's how people evolved.
And then as soon as people started going to all these colder climates and all these climates that have a lot of cloud cover, people's bodies started changing.
And their bodies started changing to try to absorb more vitamin D. That's exactly why people have white skin.
eddie bravo
Can they take hyenas and breed them to be like miniatures?
joe rogan
They could, yeah, for sure.
brendan schaub
I saw a guy with a pet hyena.
joe rogan
You know, they did it with foxes.
They've done it with foxes and taken foxes and really quickly, within 10 years, turned them into a completely different thing with a weak jaw and floppy ears.
brendan schaub
To be pets?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, what they did was they took foxes and when they had a fox that exhibited any aggression at all, they killed it.
What a stupid study.
It's not stupid because it's fascinating to find out how long it takes because we thought it would take like hundreds of years for an animal to change.
It's essentially its appearance, like its physical appearance is very different than a regular fox.
Change their coloration, change how their ears, their ears don't stick up anymore, they flop down and show submissiveness.
Same with dogs, right?
Like all dogs come from wolves.
In the original wolves, the people kept as pets.
They would just get closer.
They're the ones who got closer to the people by the campfire.
The people would feed those wolves.
And then they would use those wolves to alert them that other animals were coming nearby.
The wolves stayed close to the campfire because the wolves knew that people were going to give them food.
Then the wolves started protecting those people because that's where their food source was.
And the people worked out this relationship with wolves.
eddie bravo
What country?
joe rogan
This is the human race before there was countries.
brendan schaub
Forever ago.
joe rogan
This is probably...
You know, we're talking more than 10,000 years ago.
brendan schaub
But the Fox study was how long ago?
joe rogan
Very recently.
I think it was in Russia.
I think that's where they did this Fox study.
brendan schaub
Yeah, we're not doing that in America.
You're not killing all those Foxes.
joe rogan
It was in the 1950s?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I got the article here.
joe rogan
And so, it was a ruthless study, but they found out pretty quickly that you can select...
You can change the way these things look based on which ones you breed with which ones.
And you gotta think, when people migrated out of Africa and they moved across Asia and moved through the Bering Strait and into North America, they're dealing with brutal cold.
A lot of times they're completely covered up because it's so fucking cold.
Look at that.
Foxes are more naturally stubborn than dogs.
Little cutie face.
They're very playful, those little guys.
brendan schaub
I love a fox as a pet.
joe rogan
You ever see Grizzly Man where the dude made friends with a fox?
Like a wild fox in Grizzly Man.
Stole his hat and was playing with him.
brendan schaub
Grizzly Man's the guy that died, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
How about those flying foxes?
What the fuck is up with that?
brendan schaub
Flying squirrels, you mean?
eddie bravo
Are they flying squirrels?
I think there's flying foxes.
unidentified
Really?
No?
eddie bravo
There's these weird, gigantic, fox-looking vulture bat things in Australia that just hang out in the city.
They're just like in the city.
You can just see them in there.
They're scary, but they're...
joe rogan
I think it's just a kind of bat.
brendan schaub
It's a bat.
Oh yeah, they have like a fox face.
Yeah, they look like foxes.
unidentified
They're scary as fuck, and they're just like right there in the Those things are sweet.
joe rogan
Australia is so radical.
My friend Adam Greentree was sending me videos he took of these saltwater crocodiles.
unidentified
Whoa!
eddie bravo
Is that a regular bat?
joe rogan
Australian flying foxes.
eddie bravo
It's just some flying foxes.
Yes.
brendan schaub
That is a flying fox?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You're right.
eddie bravo
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
Is it actually a flying fox or is that what they call a bat?
jamie vernon
That's what they call it.
Everything says flying foxes.
unidentified
Look at it.
eddie bravo
It looks just like a fox.
brendan schaub
Just a fox with wings.
joe rogan
That is fucking insane.
eddie bravo
Those are just in Sydney, just hanging on the tracks.
joe rogan
That is insane.
Well, you know how we always look at pterodactyls?
You know how we look at pterodactyls and we always assume that they have wings like a bat?
That's what everybody always thought.
But now they're finding out that so many dinosaurs had feathers that it's entirely possible that pterodactyls were birds.
brendan schaub
Didn't they think the T-Rex were covered in feathers too, right?
joe rogan
It's very possible.
There's not a lot of evidence.
brendan schaub
Sounds silly.
joe rogan
It's scary.
Well, there's definitely evidence that some dinosaurs had feathers.
They found fossilized dinosaurs with feathers.
But this is all recently.
Over the last few decades, they're starting to find more and more of them.
There's a museum that I went to in Montana, and they mocked out a velociraptor with feathers.
Look, birds.
You look at it like an owl.
That's a fucking dinosaur, man.
brendan schaub
They're the closest thing to a dinosaur, right?
joe rogan
Closest thing to a dinosaur.
They're ruthless, dude.
Did I tell you about the fucking wars that I'm having in my backyard?
unidentified
No.
eddie bravo
With what?
joe rogan
Dude, there's hawk wars going on in my yard.
unidentified
Hawk wars?
joe rogan
They're killing each other.
brendan schaub
Film it, man.
joe rogan
Birds are killing other birds and they behead them.
So I started going online and reading about it and they eat their head.
And I'm like, what the fuck eats a hawk's head?
Well, apparently when birds of prey will kill other birds, one of the things they do is eat their head.
They eat the head.
They pull the head off.
brendan schaub
To show dominance?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I don't know what's going on.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
But one of my neighbors saw a hawk eating a hawk baby right up the street from me.
And I watched these hawks swoop down, and one of them slammed into my chicken coop.
There's these juvenile hawks.
And I think one of the things that's going on is I have a fence in my backyard, and we just put up a glass fence, and these birds just fucking...
We've murked like 15 birds, dude.
brendan schaub
Why'd you put a glass fence in?
joe rogan
Because it looks beautiful.
You can see the whole view.
But these birds, they don't understand that it's a fence.
And they swoop down.
It's like, clang!
And they get K the fuck-oh.
brendan schaub
Head trauma for the birds?
eddie bravo
You should have a video camera.
A little security camera.
joe rogan
A lot of wasted footage.
Because it only happens like once a month.
But it's happened quite a few times.
Where birds have flown down.
We found them.
Just like...
Drunk, wandering around the backyard.
unidentified
CT'd up.
joe rogan
Just hammered.
CT'd the fuck up.
Blood coming out of their nose.
unidentified
God!
joe rogan
I found them with blood coming out of their nose.
Yeah.
Yeah, they get KO'd.
So I think we've killed a bunch of hawks this way.
Hawks have died.
We haven't killed them.
They killed themselves.
Evolution, bitch.
But these other hawks, these juvenile hawks, are now kind of taken over because of that.
I think one of the ones that got killed, one of the hawks that got killed, look at that fucker.
Look at that.
He's eating a bird.
jamie vernon
He's decapitated a hawk.
joe rogan
Yeah, there it is.
He's decapitating a hawk.
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
God, they are fucking monsters.
joe rogan
Dude, they are so ruthless.
Owls are so goddamn ruthless.
brendan schaub
They look so cool, don't they?
joe rogan
They do look cool, but it's weird that we've made these things out to be these wise, cute...
Creatures that, like, give a hoot, don't pollute.
brendan schaub
The Tootsie Roll pops.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The Tootsie Roll pops.
eddie bravo
There's owls everywhere.
joe rogan
They're ruthless, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, I've never seen an owl in person.
joe rogan
They're fucking straight up predators.
Really?
brendan schaub
What do you mean everywhere?
joe rogan
I see them all the time.
Oh, look at this bird.
The bird's trying to get away.
Like, not today, bitch.
brendan schaub
Birds are fucking scary.
unidentified
Not today.
joe rogan
Today I will hold you and eat your head.
So I found a decapitated bird in my yard, and I posted a picture of it on Instagram, and then I started reading up on it.
Apparently it's when birds kill other birds, they'll do that.
They literally bite their fucking head off.
brendan schaub
Is it like a territory war thing?
Like a gang thing?
joe rogan
I think when these birds, my theory, it's a shitty theory because I'm not really qualified to have a theory on this, but I think that these birds slamming into that fence and a few of them dying have kind of upset the gang situation in my neighborhood.
brendan schaub
Bird-fullers?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude.
joe rogan
Owls are so ruthless.
And they ain't shit compared to eagles.
Eagles are the most ruthless.
Have you ever seen those harpy eagles?
brendan schaub
Are they huge?
joe rogan
Giant.
They're giant.
brendan schaub
How big?
joe rogan
Huge.
There's an eagle right there?
They kill monkeys.
They go after monkeys and they eat a lot of, what are those little slow things?
Sloths?
brendan schaub
Who eats a fucking sloth, man?
joe rogan
Harpy eagles.
brendan schaub
That's fucked up.
joe rogan
Google harpy eagles eat sloths.
brendan schaub
I think Thursday was official sloth day.
If you're a sloth fan.
joe rogan
I think harpy eagles are the biggest eagles in the world.
I'm pretty sure.
brendan schaub
That thing is jacked.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
They're ruthless.
Look at this motherfucker.
Swoops down.
eddie bravo
What about vultures, man?
joe rogan
They're big birds.
eddie bravo
They're the scariest.
joe rogan
No, because they're not predators.
Look, that sloth is a goner or something.
brendan schaub
That's a bummer.
I like a sloth, man.
joe rogan
But nature just made them real easy to eat.
brendan schaub
But they really don't get fucked with, though.
Oh, they do.
Because they're not out in the open, are they?
joe rogan
But when they are, they get jacked.
unidentified
Look at that monkey.
brendan schaub
They're so goddamn slow.
joe rogan
These harpy eagles, they eat monkeys like crazy.
They swoop down and jack monkeys.
And one of the things they found on ancient primate skulls, they found all these weird scratches and all this evidence of predation.
And now they think that that, ooh, he's like, come on, bitch, what's up?
He's doing a little left and right.
Now they think that that scratching is probably some sort of an ancient eagle that was preying on ancient hominids.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Birds are real proud.
eddie bravo
I like how they filmed this and put this and edited this together.
unidentified
Come on, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not going to happen like this.
eddie bravo
It's all taken in different years.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you've got to suspend disbelief just to watch him jack a monkey.
brendan schaub
Dude, what's the big-ass bird that grabs the goats and drops them from the mountainside?
joe rogan
Those are golden eagles.
brendan schaub
You ever seen that shit?
eddie bravo
Falcons?
What about them?
brendan schaub
They grab goats, son.
eddie bravo
Those are rich Muslim guys with falcons.
joe rogan
Yeah, falconry.
Yeah, they use them to hunt.
They hunt rabbits and shit with them.
brendan schaub
I'm talking about that bird that picks up a straight up goat, flies them up and like, have fun, my man.
Boom.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure those are golden eagles.
Yeah, golden eagles hunt goats.
Those are big goats.
I think those are the biggest eagles in North America.
Those are big ass eagles.
eddie bravo
Look at that shit.
brendan schaub
Worst way to die, period.
joe rogan
Yeah, they grab these goats and they're like, come with me, bitch.
eddie bravo
They just drag them down.
All they're doing is dragging them down.
joe rogan
And the goats sometimes drag the eagles down, too.
The eagle takes a hit, too.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
eddie bravo
Shit!
Look at that.
unidentified
See ya!
Oh!
joe rogan
Dude, that's so rough.
brendan schaub
See ya!
joe rogan
Boom!
And then the Eagles are like, ooh, dinner.
brendan schaub
Nature is a motherfucker.
eddie bravo
That whole video is a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
And then you're kind of out of it, then you start to eatin' your asshole.
joe rogan
I don't think you're kind of out of it.
eddie bravo
Dude, how long did he have to wait for that to happen?
joe rogan
I know, right?
With the camera?
unidentified
Whoa!
eddie bravo
That was...
He caught it perfect.
joe rogan
I know.
That's a ruthless fucking bird.
eddie bravo
Unless they bring the eagles.
joe rogan
They drug them up.
eddie bravo
Look!
Look!
brendan schaub
Like chum in the water.
joe rogan
They build Cosby up those goats.
eddie bravo
They get them all hungry and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, let the eagles loose.
unidentified
Let them loose.
joe rogan
Open the cage.
unidentified
There we go.
Get the camera.
eddie bravo
I gotta change the lens.
The battery's dead.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
Have you ever seen the ones that they use in Mongolia where they chase down wolves?
Oh, is that it right here?
Yeah.
jamie vernon
They're foxes.
brendan schaub
Oh.
joe rogan
Well, they use foxes and even wolves.
But they train these golden eagles.
That's a big fucking bird.
Look how big that bird is.
And they put a GoPro on the bird's head.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
joe rogan
And they sent the bird down.
The bird just put the whack down on these poor foxes.
brendan schaub
And they eat the foxes or they're just doing it for the coats?
joe rogan
They kill them.
Oh, the people?
I don't think they eat them.
They might.
You know, apparently some trappers and pioneers were big on eating eagles.
Or not eagles.
brendan schaub
Wolves.
joe rogan
They ate a lot of wolves.
Like some famous trappers, like wolves were their favorite food.
brendan schaub
Whatever that lady is, Eskimo or whatever, she is stressed out that this thing's not going to catch it.
joe rogan
I think that's just what she looks like.
She's living a hard life, son.
Look at that.
Look at the fucking fox trying to fight back.
brendan schaub
The fox trying to fight back and those claws are just fucking your life up.
joe rogan
It's a vice grip.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's going to get that beak involved soon on that neck.
eddie bravo
I think they'd have to put the chase in later.
Like they get like trained foxes and have them running and shit.
brendan schaub
Is that bitch holding a whistle?
unidentified
I think that's exactly what it is.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That fox put up a decent fight.
joe rogan
The wolf one is even more disturbing.
Oh, the fox is trying, man.
He's trying, but he's just getting a chance.
brendan schaub
We got ourselves a fight here.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, not really, because the fox can't even bite him.
They're so smart, they just grab ahold of him.
brendan schaub
Birds stress me out, man.
joe rogan
But it's just weird that they figured out how to train these things, man.
When you call your eagle, stand against the wind.
Oh, that makes sense.
So the eagle can hear you.
eddie bravo
If you saw one of those things coming right at you, would you use that overhand knife strike?
joe rogan
I think you've got to grapple with an eagle.
The problem is, if you hit them, I don't think if you hit them, they're not heavy enough for it to make a lot of impact when you hit them.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not like you're hitting a dog.
If you punch a dog in the face, a dog weighs 70 pounds, they're there.
eddie bravo
What's the stance you get when you see it coming?
You get...
joe rogan
Hands out.
Hands out, stretch like this.
Hands out like this.
He's coming in.
brendan schaub
Grab the feet.
joe rogan
I'm trying to grab shit and I'm trying to tear it apart.
brendan schaub
I'm trying to rampage Jackson.
joe rogan
I'm trying to get my feet on its dick and I'm trying to pull them legs apart.
I'm trying to make some Kentucky Fried Chicken drumsticks.
eddie bravo
Yeah, you gotta pull those legs apart.
brendan schaub
You gotta slam his fucking head into the ground.
eddie bravo
He's gonna land on your arms, right?
unidentified
You're like this.
eddie bravo
He lands on your arms.
brendan schaub
You're giving him that.
joe rogan
You're getting tore up.
eddie bravo
Maybe you give him one arm.
You give him one arm like this.
joe rogan
Maybe you take your shirt off and wrap that bitch around your arm.
eddie bravo
This is the way I'd stand up.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Bitch.
joe rogan
That's it.
Yeah, and you gotta grab them talons.
brendan schaub
You gotta grab them feet.
joe rogan
I don't think they attack with the beak as much as they attack with the talons and eat with the beak.
brendan schaub
They come feet first.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like this.
joe rogan
Like when they catch a salmon.
eddie bravo
How are they gonna get around this?
joe rogan
Think about how powerful they are.
What if you had to grab a salmon?
What if a salmon is in the river, you had to reach it and grab it with your hands?
Not a chance.
They swoop down and fly with it!
They snatch it out of the water and fly away with a salmon.
eddie bravo
If you had long-ass nails, you'd probably be able to grab them, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you had long-ass nails, you'd have to have some serious talents.
brendan schaub
They're also not very cuddly.
They're cuddly.
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're fucking evil.
eddie bravo
Why would you have a bad bird?
brendan schaub
Any tribal cultures that let their nails grow and they sharpen them and they use them as weapons in war?
joe rogan
We have bitch nails.
Our nails fall apart.
Our nails fall apart if you get them slammed in a door.
eddie bravo
Maybe because we don't use them.
Maybe they're supposed to be.
Well, we don't really need claws.
joe rogan
Oh, that guy just caught a salmon?
eddie bravo
Maybe we're supposed to have claws.
joe rogan
That guy's a beast.
brendan schaub
I mean, that's the two-inch water.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is different, man.
eddie bravo
And look how long his nails are.
joe rogan
He's going to eat it, too?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can easily catch salmon with bare hands and eat it raw.
You're not supposed to really eat salmon sushi even because some of them have parasites.
brendan schaub
I eat the shit out of it.
joe rogan
It's not smart.
brendan schaub
I feel great.
joe rogan
You can get parasites.
eddie bravo
This guy's going to eat it raw.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, a lot of people do.
But when you talk to people that want to play it safe, they say you shouldn't eat anything that's fresh water.
Don't eat fresh water.
brendan schaub
Well, this guy begs the damper.
joe rogan
You think it's gross, but do you like sushi?
I hate sushi.
brendan schaub
You don't like sushi?
joe rogan
When Eddie and I would go to restaurants, I used to lose my fucking mind.
Because Eddie's like, no cilantro, no onions, no this, no that.
brendan schaub
Nice and simple.
eddie bravo
I don't eat all that shit.
If the meat's good, why do I need onions and shit on it?
Give me some good meat.
joe rogan
The best is going to Fogo with him, though.
Then there's no bro shit.
You know?
brendan schaub
That's all me.
unidentified
Picanha.
joe rogan
Flip that bitch over.
brendan schaub
God, when's the last time I went to fogo the chow?
joe rogan
We went in Vegas.
We chowed it up, dude.
eddie bravo
Picanha.
joe rogan
We gained like fucking 10 pounds.
Hell yeah.
We feasted.
brendan schaub
Sounds nice.
joe rogan
Oh, so good.
I hadn't been there in forever.
We had a good time.
brendan schaub
Well, you don't really have, I was going to say munchies, but when you get high, I mean, you get high so much it probably doesn't fuck with you.
joe rogan
I never got the munchies from pot, man.
Pot never, no.
I mean, I get hungry like normal, but pot was, it never gave me munchies.
brendan schaub
It makes food taste way better, though.
eddie bravo
That's for sure.
joe rogan
It does.
brendan schaub
You smoking?
unidentified
A little bit?
brendan schaub
I mean, at night I do.
eddie bravo
Do you use it to write?
brendan schaub
No.
eddie bravo
You don't write?
brendan schaub
No.
eddie bravo
You should try to write stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, since you're doing stand-up, you should definitely write high.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
Dude, that's the...
Dude, that's where...
joe rogan
You know what I do, though?
I do both.
I write sober and I write high.
I do both.
And sometimes...
Listen to George Carlin talk about that once.
He was saying that he likes to write sober and then he touches everything up, punches it up when he's high.
brendan schaub
Well, that makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, smoke a little weed and then go over the material.
brendan schaub
Go back over it.
joe rogan
Try to figure out what's funny about it.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I like both, man.
I like writing sober and writing high.
But when I write high, it's like I just get these gifts.
It's like the universe gives you these gifts.
Where is this even coming from?
brendan schaub
But is it funny, too, when you're high and then you look back over and when you're sober, you're like, oh, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Oh, it's definitely that.
I used to have a bit about it.
I literally wrote down, a unicorn is a donkey from the future.
And then I went down and looked at my notes and went, what the fuck does that even mean?
eddie bravo
Exactly.
brendan schaub
It's fucking hilarious.
This is what it is.
eddie bravo
There's probably something funny thing about it that you didn't write down.
joe rogan
Exactly.
eddie bravo
And you forgot.
joe rogan
I was so high, but I wrote it down and then I went over it after the fact.
I was like, what the fuck is wrong with me?
I wrote that down.
I've written a bunch of shit down.
Every now and then, because a lot of what I write down, if I'm high, I'll write down some shit at the comedy store or something like that.
And then I have to go over my notes when I'm sober.
I'm like...
brendan schaub
Are you doing it on your phone?
Are you doing it on your phone or are you doing it physically?
joe rogan
Well, I always write physically, like with a computer.
And then I write notes...
eddie bravo
Wait, physically with a computer?
joe rogan
What does that mean?
eddie bravo
Physically with a computer?
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Like, physically write...
brendan schaub
I thought physically was like with a pen.
joe rogan
No, but this is probably the wrong way to say it, but I have three stages, right?
I write with a computer, but then I write things down on paper.
Like if I have to like do a set, I write a set list out with paper.
I'm really interested in this new Samsung, man.
The Samsung Note 8. Yeah, because the Note 8 you write on the lock screen.
You don't even have to open up an application.
unidentified
I like that.
joe rogan
You write on the lock screen and you write it with a pen.
You could write like a hundred pages of notes just on the lock screen and you could save them.
Have you seen that shit?
brendan schaub
Why doesn't Apple do that shit?
eddie bravo
They'll jump on it.
joe rogan
Nah, Samsung's got it, man.
Apple gets sued left and right for patents.
They got sued for these new animated emojis that they're coming out with on the iPhone X. 10, whatever it is.
brendan schaub
See, my phone's so fucking rough right now.
I need one.
joe rogan
What year you got?
brendan schaub
Apple 7 Plus.
Look, it's horrible.
It's awful.
joe rogan
My wife got the 8. It's the shit.
unidentified
Is it nice?
joe rogan
It looks just like this, but the camera's way better.
The camera's wicked.
And you can get it right now.
But the thing about the new one, the X, the X is weird, man, because it doesn't have a fingerprint thing where you open it.
You open it with your mug.
brendan schaub
With your face?
joe rogan
You stare at it.
brendan schaub
I don't like that.
joe rogan
And it opens.
Oh my gosh.
eddie bravo
Someone just get your phone and just do this.
joe rogan
Hey, what's up man?
I like your face.
brendan schaub
You can go get the 8 right now?
joe rogan
The 8. Yes.
You can get the 8 right now.
brendan schaub
I need to get that bitch tomorrow.
joe rogan
The 8 is basically this phone, but way better.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I need to get it.
joe rogan
It's the exact same.
This is a 7, but the 8 is the exact same phone.
It has like all the stains.
But I'll tell you what, man.
My phone has been fucking up lately.
brendan schaub
You have the old one, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Mine too.
Apple does on purpose.
unidentified
They do.
brendan schaub
Go get that new one, bitch.
joe rogan
They do.
brendan schaub
It says you need an update.
I'll do the update because they play those games.
They drop that bug.
joe rogan
And as soon as you update, then you're fucked.
I held it off for a while.
brendan schaub
I'm going super strong.
joe rogan
My phone, not only does it freeze, but now when I say if you sent me a text, like today it happened.
You sent me a text saying which door should I go into and I replied to you and then I went to look at my phone and there was no place to reply.
It didn't exist.
I couldn't pull it up, so I hit the home button and then I reopened the text messages back to the same thing.
So I had to physically swipe up and close out the text message program and then start it up again just to get a dialogue where I could press the keys in.
It wouldn't let me press the keys in.
brendan schaub
That's Apple telling you your new phone.
eddie bravo
You need yourself an iPhone 8. I think I'm at the 6 still.
I don't even know what this is.
joe rogan
That's the 3. Jamie, see if you can pull up a video on the Samsung Galaxy Note 8. This Galaxy Note 8 has got me very, I'm very curious.
But there's a bunch of things that Apple does that keeps you on the tit.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
One of them is that AirDrop.
brendan schaub
I've been anti-Apple forever.
Once I went to it, so easy, man.
joe rogan
It's pretty easy.
brendan schaub
So easy.
eddie bravo
What, the AirDrop?
joe rogan
Yeah, AirDrop's pretty good.
eddie bravo
Where do you use that?
joe rogan
I use it all the time.
For what?
Like if we made a video right here, I would airdrop it to you.
brendan schaub
Because you can't text it because the file is so big.
If you airdrop it, it just comes right there.
joe rogan
Instead of it texting, it just goes through Bluetooth because you're near me and it sends it to you in full.
So this is it right here.
This is the Galaxy Note 8. It's fucking huge and it's all screen.
They have a little bit of room for like the speakers on it, but the screen is gigantic.
brendan schaub
Oh, I like that pen.
joe rogan
And they pull that pen out.
That pen is so dope, dude.
It lets you do all kinds of shit.
Like if someone sends you a picture, you could highlight things with that pen Dude, you're selling the fuck out of me right now.
brendan schaub
I'm in the market.
joe rogan
You could write notes with your hand.
See, this to me is big because then I don't have to take a notebook with me.
brendan schaub
I don't need an iPad or anything like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you write it.
Like, look at this.
This guy wants to highlight some shit.
Look, you could translate things.
Goddamn!
Look, do that, and boom.
It translates shit for you.
It charges wirelessly.
Yeah, look at my spokesbone from Galaxy.
Look at that.
unidentified
Ooh!
brendan schaub
But Joe, how does it work?
If I went from the Apple phone to that, does all my shit transfer over or no?
joe rogan
Yeah, sort of.
The problem is, the real problem...
I tried it with the Google Pixel, just for shits and giggles.
The real...
Look at that.
Like, he's writing notes with that thing?
Come on, son.
On the lock screen?
The real problem is iMessages.
So say if someone's used to sending you iMessages and you send them iMessages, it doesn't want to send you a text.
It wants to continue to send iMessages and it takes a long time to switch over.
I actually called up Apple and I said, I want you to remove me from the iMessage database.
Like remove my email from iMessage.
Remove me.
And they said, why?
And I said, because I got a Google phone.
They said, why did you do that?
I said, that's none of your business, bitch!
Remove me, motherfucker!
So they removed me from the iMessage database, and it still wouldn't work.
I mean, it would work half the time.
brendan schaub
That's kind of a bummer.
That's a deal-breaker for me.
joe rogan
All the people that had Android phones all worked great.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but how many people have Android phones?
joe rogan
I know a few people that have Android phones.
brendan schaub
None of my friends.
joe rogan
Ian Edwards has one.
Steve Ranella has one.
I have a few friends that have Androids.
Remy Warren has one.
brendan schaub
But the majority don't.
joe rogan
So you're going to have some issues.
Yeah.
And you don't get...
I get sad when I see green text.
brendan schaub
I like blue.
Me too.
It bums me out when I get green.
I'm like, fuck, man.
eddie bravo
I'm like, he's got one of them phones.
brendan schaub
I judge people.
joe rogan
People do judge people.
Some comedian had a bit about it, I think.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
I think about hooking up with a girl and you know she's broke when you get a green text from her.
brendan schaub
Or a broke screen.
Like someone, ah, dude, your phone bums me out.
I had a friend say, ah, your phone bums me out, man.
joe rogan
Because it's broken?
brendan schaub
The screen's all broke.
My case is all jiggity.
joe rogan
I like that.
It means you're living your life.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're right.
eddie bravo
The only thing that's cool about the green text is the person you're texting with doesn't see that you're texting.
joe rogan
Yeah, the bubble.
eddie bravo
Yeah, sometimes you're not writing anything.
You're just reviewing the text, your conversation, trying to figure out how they think that you're writing something.
And then you see that they're writing something, and then they stop.
Like, oh, they're not sure.
unidentified
They're not sure how to reply, motherfucker!
Yeah.
eddie bravo
I've done that to my wife where I'm about to text something, then I don't, and then she'll say, why were you thinking about something?
And then you change your mind.
What were you thinking about?
unidentified
I wasn't thinking about that.
eddie bravo
You were thinking about something.
You were about to write some shit.
And then it turned off.
What were you thinking?
Tell me.
What were you thinking?
I'm like, I was going to say.
joe rogan
I'm thinking about how beautiful you are and I love you so much.
brendan schaub
I'm so happy in my way.
eddie bravo
I was going to use the kissy emoji, but I decided it's not appropriate for this text.
brendan schaub
I took off the thing where it says red.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I was just going to say that.
That's a bad...
You might have that on there.
When you get a text message, if you look at it and you send the thing...
If you look at it, that person knows you looked at it.
brendan schaub
I don't like that.
joe rogan
I don't like that shit.
eddie bravo
Maybe I'm busy, man.
It's like if someone texts me, I might just go straight to the text just to see what their message is because I don't have time.
You don't have time for everybody.
brendan schaub
It's also fucked up, though.
joe rogan
The other day, I got 39 text messages.
I counted them.
brendan schaub
From a psycho or a bunch of people?
joe rogan
No, in the day.
39. I can't keep up with all that.
unidentified
You can't.
joe rogan
39 different people text messaged me.
Is my job just replying to texts?
Because if that's my job, then I have to sit down and then people just go, hey, what's up?
Those don't get a reply.
Hey, what's up?
brendan schaub
What's up?
Call me.
eddie bravo
It's either my family or answer a non-question.
Maybe I'll get back to that.
For me, it's like, right now I've got to answer these and I'll try to catch up to those.
You go to one...
You lock yourself away...
Doing a podcast for three hours, you're going to have a million messages.
You don't have time.
You've got to get in your car.
joe rogan
This is one of the few times that I guarantee that I'm not going to communicate with anybody any other way.
This is one of the few times.
Doing a podcast, this is one of the cool things about these kind of conversations.
This is the only way we have these conversations.
I agree.
We don't have these kind of conversations.
brendan schaub
You're distracted with something else.
joe rogan
You're distracted, you're checking your phone.
There's a lot of shit going on.
The art of conversation is lost on a lot of people.
And one of the ways we practice it is by doing these podcasts.
eddie bravo
Yeah, this is like a real hangout.
A hangout when your phone's off.
brendan schaub
Have you had anyone come here try to stay on their phone?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Get the fuck out of my face.
joe rogan
Russell Peters cannot leave his phone alone.
brendan schaub
Oh, he can't be on the show then?
joe rogan
He cannot leave his phone alone.
Really?
Russell Peters is always like, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, no.
joe rogan
So, I was gonna...
brendan schaub
No, I don't know.
joe rogan
Hold on.
I go, Russell!
Come on, Russell!
unidentified
Come on, Russell!
joe rogan
Everybody's here.
We're right here.
A million people are listening.
eddie bravo
Hey, but it is, you know what?
brendan schaub
That's a bummer.
eddie bravo
Everyone's got a phone.
Everyone's got a phone and everyone's got a lot of work to do on the goddamn phone.
It's nice to be able to hang out with somebody and you're like, let's just get on our phones together and we'll talk every now and then and I'll show you a video and we're cool and we're not offending anybody.
Everyone's just on your phone.
There's nothing wrong with that.
joe rogan
Nothing wrong with that.
Have a fun party.
eddie bravo
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
It's like we got business.
eddie bravo
I want to hang out with you, but I got to do business and we can talk when there's something to talk about.
brendan schaub
For sure.
eddie bravo
But then I got to handle some shit.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
Don't you notice from doing a lot of podcasts how like if you have conversations with some people, some people are just not really listening to you.
Not in podcasts, but in the real world.
Like, you get good at this.
Like, you do podcasts a lot, so you're really good at having conversations.
But when you go out in the real world and have conversations with people, there's motherfuckers that just aren't listening.
They're just talking.
They're talking at you.
brendan schaub
They're not even responding to what you're saying.
They're just thinking about what they want to get done on their agenda.
eddie bravo
They're in a different conversation in a text.
They're like texting someone else in some serious business and they're like, uh-huh.
joe rogan
No, no, I mean when you're having a conversation with someone and they're not even tuned in to what you're saying.
There's a lot of people that are just bad at talking.
brendan schaub
Bad communicators.
joe rogan
And those people are bad at podcasts.
Every now and then I'll get one of those people on a podcast and you're like, are you even here with me?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Are you listening to me?
brendan schaub
It's work.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's work.
brendan schaub
Because you're constantly trying to come up constantly.
joe rogan
And you're trying to bring them in.
brendan schaub
Trying to get them to hook on something.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Trying to get them to go to a store.
joe rogan
Connect with me.
brendan schaub
Please connect.
joe rogan
Come back.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's exhausting.
And what's a bummer, too, is the audience feels it.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Because they're like, oh, this guy sucks.
joe rogan
Dude, yeah.
I've talked to people after I had someone on.
They go, hey, that guy, something was off, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a little off.
He's like, it seemed like he was on some drugs or something.
That's another thing I'm finding is how many fucking people are on speed.
unidentified
Really?
eddie bravo
Speed?
unidentified
What?
Adderall.
eddie bravo
Where?
joe rogan
Adderall.
eddie bravo
Well, that's not technically meth.
unidentified
100%.
eddie bravo
It's not crystal meth.
joe rogan
Adderall is meth.
It really is like...
eddie bravo
It does the same thing.
No, it does the same thing.
But when you're on Adderall, you're like, you got a prescription.
You don't feel like you're a meth head.
There's a difference between...
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
There's a difference between the...
eddie bravo
People on Adderall still have their teeth.
joe rogan
Uh, for a while.
brendan schaub
Not all of them.
unidentified
Howard, before we started the show, this is the same guy who told me caffeine's bad for you.
brendan schaub
You told me caffeine's the same thing as Coke.
eddie bravo
Caffeine is a cousin of Coke.
They're in the same...
Caffeine, they're in the same...
I mean, this was mainstream information, so maybe I'm wrong.
joe rogan
It's a stimulant.
brendan schaub
It's a stimulant.
eddie bravo
But it's like...
Because they used to put Coke in Coca-Cola, right?
joe rogan
No, but they still use Coca-Leaves to make the flavor of...
Do you know that cocaine...
The number one provider of medical cocaine is Coca-Cola.
Do you know how this works?
Coca-Cola buys coca leaves.
They have coca leaves that you would get cocaine from.
That's the flavor.
It's secret to the flavor of Coca-Cola.
brendan schaub
Shit's delicious.
eddie bravo
That's Coke flavored soda.
joe rogan
It's just better than Pepsi.
brendan schaub
It's Coca-Cola, for God's sake.
joe rogan
It's just better than Pepsi.
brendan schaub
It really is.
eddie bravo
It's the best.
In a can?
unidentified
Forget it.
joe rogan
That aluminum?
unidentified
It's just better.
Oh, yeah.
eddie bravo
That shit that gets in your block.
brendan schaub
You get the Mexican sugar.
unidentified
Oof.
eddie bravo
I love that shit!
joe rogan
But the way they make it is with coca leaves.
They extract the cocaine from the coca leaves, and the company that extracts the cocaine from those coca leaves, they sell it to like, they use it as medical cocaine.
eddie bravo
Escobar Enterprises.
joe rogan
It's fucking crazy, man.
It's crazy.
eddie bravo
Medical cocaine?
joe rogan
Medical cocaine.
eddie bravo
Damn, when are they going to legalize that?
joe rogan
Well, medical cocaine, they use for surgeries and shit.
unidentified
What?
eddie bravo
What if you could do medical cocaine, you could snort it?
joe rogan
Numbs things down.
Numbs things like locally, instead of like Novocaine.
Novocaine, by the way, related to cocaine.
Lidocaine.
Lidocaine, I had that shit when I had my nose fixed.
They put the lidocaine in there.
eddie bravo
How many doctors are taking this medical cocaine and doing crazy things with it?
joe rogan
Do you remember Joel Wallach?
Dead Doctors Don't Lie?
You turned me on to that.
You turned me on to that book.
eddie bravo
Was he a cookhead?
joe rogan
No, he was a doctor.
He was into minerals.
He was talking to you about how it's weird that people who are veterinarians know that if you have livestock, you have to supplement the minerals and the livestock.
But people don't think about mineral deficiencies in food when you talk about people that have a regular diet, especially when they don't have a vegetable-rich diet.
eddie bravo
Yeah, with animals, with livestock, you don't have a health insurance, so you gotta, they know, farmers know, you gotta give them these minerals, otherwise your livestock's gonna be shit.
So, there's no, but when it comes to humans, we don't look at it the same way, but, you know.
brendan schaub
A lot of people do.
eddie bravo
They understand the importance of minerals now.
joe rogan
But Joel Wallach, one of the things he was talking about is how we put all our faith in doctors when it comes to health, but how little education doctors actually have in nutrition, and then how many doctors are doing drugs.
How many doctors are like...
brendan schaub
The ones I know.
eddie bravo
Free pills?
joe rogan
What are they doing?
eddie bravo
You think they have access to all the...
You don't think they're on shit?
joe rogan
What are they doing?
What's going on?
brendan schaub
The ones you've heard of.
The ones that I've heard of that I've hung out with.
I mean, they party hard, man.
They have access to a lot of stuff.
They make a lot of money.
They party hard.
They're people.
joe rogan
Coke.
brendan schaub
Smart.
Yes.
joe rogan
Coke.
Goddamn cocaine.
unidentified
What is that?
joe rogan
Adderall.
Amphetamine.
Amphetamine aspartame.
Yeah, it's fucking amphetamine.
brendan schaub
Joe, you're saying people that come on here are on it?
joe rogan
I've had a bunch of people that I've asked, just flat out ask them.
brendan schaub
Because they're just going.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they talk so fast and there's so much going on.
I'm like, there's no way this guy isn't on speed.
And then it'll come out later in the conversation that they're on Adderall.
That they take Adderall, they have a prescription.
They're always like, well, I have ADD.
"Oh, it's that ADD.
I got ADD too, motherfucker.
I can go get a prescription.
I mean, what does it mean?
brendan schaub
Have you ever taken Adderall?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
I took it and didn't shut the fuck up, but I couldn't focus on anything.
I took it in college to write a paper, and someone would come in like, hey, how's the pizza?
And I'd go on a fucking rant about pizza.
I got nothing done.
Nothing done.
eddie bravo
That's like speed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Speed is supposed to be good for organizing, though.
eddie bravo
Growing up, I was...
unidentified
What's the downside to battle on speed?
eddie bravo
You lose your teeth?
joe rogan
Well, it's not just that.
I think your heart is just, like, overworked.
brendan schaub
Too many beats.
joe rogan
I think it freaks you out.
Fast pounding or uneven heartbeats, pain or burning when you urinate.
That's banging chicks that are on speed.
Taken more than usual, feelings of extreme happiness or sadness.
Tremors, hallucinations, unusual behavior, or motor tics.
Dangerously high blood.
High blood what?
jamie vernon
High blood.
brendan schaub
Not terrible.
Let's be real.
Not awful.
joe rogan
Well, see, there is a lot of people that are on this stuff on a daily basis.
Dangerously high blood pressure, severe headache, buzzing in your ears, anxiety, confusion.
eddie bravo
Talking more than usual.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that are on this.
A lot.
And entertainment.
Let's take it, not just entertainment, journalism.
Journalism is a big one.
This guy who was in here, who's a professor, actually told me that he knows so many fucking journalists.
And then I started asking journalists, and they confirmed it with me.
Like, yeah, everybody's on it.
And I go, everybody?
He goes, everybody I know that's a successful journalist has taken Adderall.
I go, why?
He goes, because you've got deadlines, you can work, you don't get tired, you get things done, you focus.
He goes, you've got, like, laser beam focus.
I go, how many of them are abusing it?
He goes, they're all abusing it.
brendan schaub
Damn.
eddie bravo
It's like steroids for writing.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
brendan schaub
PDs for writing.
joe rogan
So let me ask you this.
If you had to guess, what's the number of prescriptions every year for Adderall in the United States?
Let's guess.
eddie bravo
Let's say that again.
joe rogan
The number of prescriptions every year for Adderall in the United States.
brendan schaub
I have to know what the prescriptions are.
eddie bravo
I'm going to say 5 million.
joe rogan
I'm going with 30 million.
brendan schaub
30?
20 to 30 million.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm going high.
eddie bravo
How many people are on it right now?
How many people are on Adderall?
joe rogan
See, they don't do it that way.
They write prescriptions written.
So like, say if you get three months worth, you might use it four times in a year, so you would be four, right?
So let's find out.
brendan schaub
I'm saying 30. I'm going to go 20. 20. I'm going to say a little lower.
joe rogan
I'm going to say 5. Well, knowing what I said, you're still going to go with 5?
brendan schaub
5, Eddie?
Come on.
eddie bravo
10. 10. It's peer pressure, bro.
joe rogan
Don't give him.
unidentified
I'm going to go with 10. Stick with 5. What do we got?
jamie vernon
The best I could find is from 2012, and it says roughly 16 million Adderall prescriptions are written for adults between 20 and 39. That's pretty good for 2012. However, that's five years ago.
That doesn't include kids, which a lot of kids took it in school and then into college and are now those probably reporters that are talking about.
joe rogan
It's about 20. Five years ago, those kids are 20 now, right?
jamie vernon
They could be 15, now they're 20. Yeah, this only started with age 20, so kids that were in high school were 16, 17, 18, 19. They don't have updated statistics?
I just tried to type in 2016, and this is an article from 2016 using these stats.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Very interesting.
It's crazy, because it is speed, and you can get it prescribed to you.
All you have to do is say, oh, just can't focus, I'm tired all the time, I just don't know what to do.
Okay.
They just write you speed.
brendan schaub
Wouldn't it help you in writing, too?
Really everything.
Maybe.
joe rogan
Some people say it doesn't help you creatively because you're so like that it's better for like organizing things and moving your notes together.
eddie bravo
Painting your house.
joe rogan
Like the late, great Robert Schimmel.
Do you know who Robert Schimmel was?
Stand-up comedian.
Hilarious.
Dear friend.
Great guy.
Died a few years back.
He accidentally took Adderall.
He actually had a heart attack.
He thought he was taking his heart medication.
He took the wrong shit.
He took someone else's Adderall.
Call his doctor and he's like, uh, what do I do?
He goes, how much did you take?
And he looks at the bottle, tells him the dose.
He goes, you're going to be fine.
He goes, you're just going to be up for a while and you're going to be very speedy.
And so he just said, I just organized my notes.
He said, I just got in front of my computer and I couldn't stop organizing.
Just going over my notes and just pulling out pages after pages and writing things down.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
He said, I've never been more focused in my life.
He goes, I'm scared to try it again.
brendan schaub
I wonder what it's like working out on it.
joe rogan
A lot of people work out on it.
We had a lady in here recently who said she works out on it.
She said she gets pumped.
brendan schaub
Probably goes nuts.
eddie bravo
When I was 19, there was this 23-year-old heavy metal chick who had some speed, and she was hot at the time.
We did a little bit, and my dick was so goddamn small.
She was determined.
To blow it up.
To blow it up?
brendan schaub
Suck your dick?
eddie bravo
I kept saying, I'm sorry, it won't work.
It doesn't work.
unidentified
It doesn't work.
brendan schaub
Because of speed.
eddie bravo
And she goes, don't worry.
I got all day.
And she just went on forever and she did eventually resurrect it.
brendan schaub
God bless her.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
It was wicked.
joe rogan
That's the fucking speed made her want to suck that dick all day long.
brendan schaub
She was determined.
She had a heart.
eddie bravo
No way was she going to give up.
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
Imagine how long it would take.
Imagine.
When you do speed, your dick does not work.
unidentified
Really?
It just shrinks up.
joe rogan
Whoa.
brendan schaub
That's not good.
eddie bravo
It's terrible.
I don't recommend it to anybody.
It was terrible.
I was young.
I was 19. She was hot.
joe rogan
A lot of pool players used to take speed.
They said it helped their game.
They'd take a bunch of different kinds of speed.
brendan schaub
To focus on the ball?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because pools, it's a lot of intense focus and tiny adjustments you're making.
You've got to really concentrate on the angles and what you're trying to accomplish.
It's a very mentally taxing game when you're gambling.
So a lot of these guys, they gamble for 10-12 hour sessions.
brendan schaub
Here's a question for your Golden Snitch friend.
If I have a prescription for Adderall, can I fight in the UFC? No.
What if I have a real deficit?
joe rogan
Crazy Tim Crater actually got pulled from a card because he had a real deficit and he was on Adderall.
They pulled him from a card way back in the day.
This was like Ultimate Fighter days when he was off the Ultimate Fighter.
Yeah, exactly.
Adderall, the new drug of choice of many major leaguers.
Wow.
brendan schaub
Meaning baseball, though.
joe rogan
No, but look, this is football, you're saying.
brendan schaub
That's weird they're showing that.
jamie vernon
That's just a weird video.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Baseball, I've always heard they fuck with Adderall non-stop.
joe rogan
Adderall is legal and easily obtainable, but also dangerous if abused.
Use in Major League has reached absurd level.
brendan schaub
Baseball, that's always...
unidentified
Absurd?
joe rogan
Dangerous if used, but...
Yeah, but the thing is, like...
Also, if you use it, you might be the best fucking baseball player alive and make a kajillion dollars.
It does provide you with energy that you wouldn't normally have.
It's cheating, says Dr. Richard Lustberg, New York State licensed psychologist and member of the American Psychological Association.
brendan schaub
Yeah, baseball.
joe rogan
You're trying to make money.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's weird.
joe rogan
You've got 15 years to make money in baseball.
brendan schaub
I'm injecting Adderall into my veins if I'm baseball.
joe rogan
I'm shooting it right into my dick with a turkey baster.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Why not?
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
You're trying to get paid.
brendan schaub
But in fighting, if you legit have a problem, yeah.
joe rogan
But what is that problem?
See, that's the problem.
It's never been clearly defined to me.
I've talked to a bunch of psychologists and psychiatrists about it.
I'm like, what is ADHD? I'm like, how do you define it?
And you define it by a series of characteristics that people have.
But you could just say you have those.
I mean, you could complain about all sorts of things that are on the list.
It's not like they test you, like, oh, you have syphilis.
brendan schaub
There's no blood type.
joe rogan
Hey, man, let me test you.
Oh yeah, bro, you got a disease.
It's not like that.
brendan schaub
You guys are only me, but even when I was a kid, if you were distracted and couldn't sit still, you'd just think he has a lot of energy and needs to play or go outside more.
No one was fucking taking medication.
joe rogan
UFC exec, Frank Muir was not denied an Adderall therapeutic use exemption by Nevada Athletic Commission.
So what did he say?
So he got one.
Interesting.
brendan schaub
For Adderall.
joe rogan
He was granted one by USADA. That's interesting because maybe Tim Crater could have been granted it.
But it was public.
I'm not saying anything that people don't know about.
They were all talking about it at the time.
You know what?
I think that for the people who really need it, this has got to be very frustrating to see people use it and abuse it.
brendan schaub
I told Brian Callen, I was like, you have ADD like I've never seen before.
You think so?
But he's all over the place.
And he was like, oh, for sure I have ADD. He went to a doctor.
He was like, nah, you're good.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Doctor.
eddie bravo
He's not on Adderall?
brendan schaub
I told him to fire his doctor.
eddie bravo
Brian's not on Adderall?
brendan schaub
No, he's on nothing.
joe rogan
He played it wrong.
brendan schaub
He's on life.
joe rogan
Fitzsimmons is on it.
brendan schaub
Brian didn't want it.
joe rogan
He was on...
Actually, he's on Ritalin.
Fitzsimmons is on Ritalin.
brendan schaub
What's the difference?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Speed.
It's speedy.
He did the podcast the other day and his knee was like...
He does a lot of this.
brendan schaub
Like tapping non-stop?
joe rogan
He does a lot of movement.
He's constantly moving a lot.
And someone asked him on Twitter, like, what's that about?
And he's like, Ritalin.
brendan schaub
Weird.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And he just went on this to talk fast and for his podcast.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
He's been on it because he is legitimately, he has legitimate ADD, which, whatever the fuck that means.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I was going to say, we don't know what legitimate ADD means.
joe rogan
Okay.
Let's...
Excuse me.
Let's define it.
Like, let's try to see if someone has a definition.
What is legitimate ADHD? What do you think it is?
brendan schaub
What do you guys think it is?
I think it's someone who can't focus on fucking anything and they're distracted by everything.
joe rogan
Well, it's also, yeah, there's definitely that.
It's also patterns.
And patterns of, like, behavior that you develop in your life.
But there's also probably people that have a legitimate disease.
Like, there's legitimately something wrong with their brain.
The question is, how many people legitimately have something wrong versus how many people are just abusing it because they just want to...
brendan schaub
They're just assholes.
joe rogan
Yeah, they just want to use speed.
Get all that energy and get fired up.
eddie bravo
Is it possible?
Is there any chance that maybe in some cases ADD or some kind of brain dysfunction is caused by the vaccines maybe?
Is there a possibility that it's a vaccine?
unidentified
Who knows?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
There's definitely side effects to almost every medication that you take for certain people.
Adult attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, ADHD, is a mental health disorder that includes a combination of persistent problems such as difficulty paying attention, Brian Callen, hyperactivity, Brian Callen, impulsive behavior, Brian Callen.
Adult ADHD can lead to unstable relationships, Brian Callen, poor work or school performance, Brian Callen, and low self-esteem, not Brian Callen.
brendan schaub
The doctor went, nah, you don't have low self-esteem, can't give it to you, bro.
joe rogan
And other problems.
What are the other problems?
We don't even want to talk about those.
And other problems.
Be specific, motherfucker.
This is a medical diagnosis.
brendan schaub
But if you read that, that's basically every kid you've ever met.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, here's the problem.
unidentified
Ever.
joe rogan
You get kids.
Kids are filled with energy, and they want to play, and they want to have fun, and they want to be stimulated.
unidentified
But they don't want to sit there.
brendan schaub
They don't want to sit there and fucking listen to your shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, talk.
They sit in some uncomfortable bullshit plastic chair, listen to some monotone asshole.
Who's teaching them nonsense they don't give a fuck about?
brendan schaub
We're doing the schooling wrong.
It's not the kid's issue.
joe rogan
I think that's a big part of it.
But parents want to give it to their kids because they just want their kids to pay attention.
You know, I had a neighbor who got their kid on Ritalin.
There was nothing wrong with this kid.
They got the kid on Ritalin.
He was just like this all day.
brendan schaub
Stupid parents.
joe rogan
He was just like...
brendan schaub
Fuckin' focused as fuck, though.
Hey, focused as fuck!
joe rogan
He just listened now.
brendan schaub
Probably killin' video games, too.
joe rogan
Probably, right?
Just get him in front of Madden.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
Just killin' plays on bitches.
Yeah.
Probably didn't have a lot of friends, though.
joe rogan
It's definitely dangerous how many people are medicated.
But the real question is, like, how many people actually could use the medication versus how many people are medicated because doctors are coming.
brendan schaub
I'd like to meet someone really who has that problem, who really has ADD and figure it out.
eddie bravo
I bet some of them kids were seriously abused as kids and they just come out and they're all just fucked up.
joe rogan
That's definitely a possibility.
eddie bravo
A lot of abuse going on.
joe rogan
Well, there's also like emotional abuse.
People just yell at their kids, beat their kids.
There's kids that people get ignored.
brendan schaub
Kids don't have friends.
joe rogan
People grow up with parents that are just assholes and their whole life is like they're constantly walking on eggshells.
They're all fucked up psychologically because of it.
brendan schaub
It's a bummer, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a bummer, dude.
I can't read horrible stories, but I read some story about some guy in Texas that his three-year-old daughter wouldn't drink her milk, so he made her stand outside by a tree, and she disappeared.
He went back out 15 minutes, and she was gone.
And the police went looking for her.
They can't find her.
She disappeared.
brendan schaub
Did you hear in the interview what he said?
He goes, yeah, I put her out there.
And they go, what do you think happened?
He goes, there's been a lot of sighting of coyotes in the area.
And they're like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Coyotes?
I read that.
I've read that exact article.
I couldn't sleep that night, man.
I could not stop thinking about it.
If it has to do with kids, it fucks my world up.
joe rogan
Oh, hell yeah.
brendan schaub
Because she wouldn't finish her milk and she has a disability.
She has a disability.
She went and finished her milk at like 1 in the morning.
So this fucking moron, who they've already taken the other kid away.
unidentified
It was 1 in the morning?
brendan schaub
1 in the morning.
Wouldn't finish her milk.
So this moron puts out a tree at 2 in the morning.
And then they've already, child custody, already came and took one of the kids away before.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
People suck, man.
brendan schaub
I'm not a violent guy, but that guy, I would fuck up for free.
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy doesn't need to be alive.
brendan schaub
That guy should be tortured.
joe rogan
The fact that he could do that to a baby.
What the fuck is wrong with you, man?
And his own daughter.
brendan schaub
And I think about that.
I think of my kid.
I think how scared he'd be by the tree.
It fucks my world up, man.
joe rogan
So, she's still missing, right?
There's no update on that.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
They never found her.
She probably got eaten.
brendan schaub
That guy deserves the death penalty.
joe rogan
Near Coyotes.
Jesus Christ.
eddie bravo
Meanwhile, he probably killed her.
He made that story up.
joe rogan
You might be right.
brendan schaub
You might be right, Eddie.
joe rogan
You might be right.
You might have.
brendan schaub
That guy deserves the death penalty.
eddie bravo
Where's the proof of the story?
That sounds like, hey, I gotta tell him something.
joe rogan
He did it either way.
If he just left her outside, if he knew there's coyotes around, he's asking his kid to get eaten by a coyote.
He might have wanted the kid to get eaten by a coyote.
brendan schaub
Because he's a bad person.
joe rogan
Because he's a piece of shit.
You know, raising a kid tests you.
It's like, you know, and there's some people that are just fucked in the head.
Damn, we shouldn't end on this.
brendan schaub
We definitely shouldn't end it.
What else you guys got?
Let's not end on that bullshit.
joe rogan
Sad.
unidentified
I know.
eddie bravo
Too much sadness, man.
joe rogan
There's a lot of sadness, my man.
eddie bravo
A lot of good shit, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of great shit in the world, but god damn, there's a lot of fucking morons.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that'll fuck your dad.
joe rogan
And you can't, the thing is, you can't fix them.
Like a guy like that, once a guy does that to his daughter, you're not fixing that guy.
That guy's dead.
brendan schaub
The thing about that guy has friends too.
If he's like, how was your night last night?
My fucking kid wouldn't finish his bottle so I left her outside.
What?
Who the fuck do you hang out with?
Who else are you hanging out with where you can talk like that and everyone thinks it's all good?
joe rogan
You know, the thing is, like, you can't forgive someone for that.
brendan schaub
No, you have to kill them.
joe rogan
How do you forgive someone for doing that to a baby?
Like, if someone beats a baby to death, there's no returning from that.
eddie bravo
You gotta torture them.
brendan schaub
And then people go, oh, it's a mental illness.
eddie bravo
You gotta publicly torture them.
Publicly.
joe rogan
But is that really good?
Does that fix anything?
Does it, like...
eddie bravo
Yeah, and scare people.
brendan schaub
Well, there's the bigger picture, and people go, listen, it's a mental illness issue, so we need to fix them, and it's like...
joe rogan
Yeah, the mental illness issue is a weird one, because I saw something about...
HuffPost had something about pedophiles, and they eventually took it down, I think.
But this guy was saying, I'm not a monster, I'm a pedophile.
And he's basically saying that he has these thoughts, he just doesn't act on them.
And everybody was like, what?
brendan schaub
Holy fuck.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you...
brendan schaub
They say that for everything, right?
If you rape kids, if you're a child molester, if you shoot people, it's a mental illness.
eddie bravo
The real child molesters are running this planet.
Those are the ones.
joe rogan
You open the door.
unidentified
Fucked up.
eddie bravo
Those are the real ones.
joe rogan
Do you hear that Donald Trump's going to open up the JFK dump?
How about that?
All the dump of documents from the JFK that had been sealed up by all the other presidents?
Like the JFK assassination investigation?
They sealed some documents up because they're too sensitive.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Like whatever those documents are in.
eddie bravo
Why wouldn't they shred those documents?
I don't know.
Why would damning...
Documents exist.
unidentified
Because these are people from 1962. Also, Trump, for sure, focused on something else than this, huh?
joe rogan
Well, hey, this is not a bad thing to focus on.
brendan schaub
There's so many other things we can focus on.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
But, first of all, no one really can be president.
Let's be honest.
There's not a single person that can focus on the economy and healthcare and international relations and the environment.
There's no way.
brendan schaub
There's people who can do a better job, though.
joe rogan
Yes, for sure.
But there's not enough time in the world to focus on any of those things.
brendan schaub
I agree.
eddie bravo
You know what he should focus on?
Donald Trump should focus on the Vegas shooting.
He hasn't said shit about it.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
eddie bravo
You think there was some shady shit going on?
joe rogan
Here's the thing about this Kennedy assassination.
One of the reasons why if I was him, I would focus on the Kennedy assassination is they might fucking kill him.
It's entirely possible that he's thinking that he could get assassinated.
brendan schaub
100%.
eddie bravo
Maybe that's why he's opening it.
Maybe.
I wouldn't think there was any files.
Why would those files exist?
They should have been burned a long time ago.
joe rogan
Yeah, you would think so, right?
eddie bravo
There's no files.
brendan schaub
And also, doesn't he have the highest security of all time?
They pay the most to protect him out of all time because there's such a threat now?
joe rogan
Oh, he has crazy security.
You ever seen the doors on his limo?
They had a video of him.
I was...
God, I can't stop coughing today.
I was looking at this image of him.
There was a video of him getting out of the limo, and I was like, look at that door on that fucking limo.
And then I went to some images of the limo.
The limo door is like that thick.
brendan schaub
Is it different than Obama's, though?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Isn't that the standard one that Cadillac makes?
joe rogan
I never looked at the other one.
But, I mean, the doors are fucking ridiculously thick.
brendan schaub
They're bomb-proof.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're sick.
joe rogan
That would be the dopest car to drive around in.
You'd be like, fuck!
brendan schaub
Fuck you!
Fire away, boys.
joe rogan
Drive me around, man.
Sick.
You'd be in there sipping tea.
brendan schaub
Whatever.
joe rogan
Pinkies up.
brendan schaub
Whole world.
Yeah.
joe rogan
They make a car that you can buy.
There's a company called DevRolo.
D-E-V-R-O-L-O. And they make a car like your truck.
A Toyota Tundra.
But they make that motherfucker bulletproof.
brendan schaub
I used to work for a company that used to bulletproof vehicles for two weeks.
eddie bravo
It was a fiberglass.
They do it in fiberglass.
I couldn't hang.
Yes, I quit.
It was too hard.
joe rogan
Oh, the fiberglass fumes and shit.
eddie bravo
The dust.
There's fiberglass.
brendan schaub
It's a shitty gig.
eddie bravo
We made cars for diplomats and for mobile check-cashing vans.
Those are the big things.
That makes sense.
And then private cars.
You just fill the doors up with fiberglass, just sheets of fiberglass.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's it?
But what about the windows?
eddie bravo
I don't know.
I don't remember how the windows are.
brendan schaub
Bulletproof windows are thick as fuck.
eddie bravo
I don't think the windows are a different factory.
Just bulletproof underneath.
Make it bomb-proof from underneath.
Fiberglass the shit out of the doors.
joe rogan
But this DevRolo company, they do it like consumer cars.
And I don't know what they do with the windows.
eddie bravo
In Brazil, they're popular.
Bulletproof cars?
brendan schaub
I'm sure.
eddie bravo
Hell yeah.
brendan schaub
Brazil, Mexico.
joe rogan
Here's the president's update.
New Cadillac presidential limousine to debut later in 2017. Cadillac just runs that shit.
brendan schaub
You bet your ass it's Cadillac.
It's called The Beast.
joe rogan
Oh, what a fucking clever name.
unidentified
The Beast.
The Beast.
joe rogan
A.K.A. The Beast.
brendan schaub
Nothing can't be cheap.
eddie bravo
Wait a minute.
brendan schaub
They're selling it to anybody?
jamie vernon
No, no, no, no.
I need to get one.
joe rogan
How come I can't buy what the president has?
brendan schaub
Come on, bro.
joe rogan
What do you think how much one of those limos goes for?
What's the money?
brendan schaub
I'm going to say $600,000.
eddie bravo
Oh, no, no.
If the taxpayers are paying for it, that's $2 billion.
unidentified
Who's paying for it?
eddie bravo
Oh, okay.
It's that tax money.
Shit.
joe rogan
No bid contract.
A billion dollar limousine.
Two plus three plus two layout means it can carry chief executive and a couple of aides on most journeys.
Passenger compartment would still offer conference-style seating for five and the rear passenger doors will still be positioned to the front of the rear quarter windows that will partially obscure the two rear seats.
brendan schaub
If I was president, I wouldn't have a cow like that.
unidentified
Would you have?
brendan schaub
I'd have something like that, but the front end would be a Viper.
So American.
joe rogan
I'd have the Punisher war van.
unidentified
That'd be sick.
joe rogan
And put a fucking white skull on the side of it, too.
brendan schaub
Could do like a big-ass long Bronco.
Just something so fucking American.
joe rogan
Mmm, a Bronco.
brendan schaub
That'd be sick.
eddie bravo
Maybe a Ram.
joe rogan
Dodge Ram.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Bulletproof a smart car.
brendan schaub
Be a bummer, man.
joe rogan
Those things are so ridiculous.
How many of those things get crushed?
brendan schaub
You don't see a lot of them, though.
joe rogan
You see a little of them in Hollywood.
brendan schaub
I feel like they're dying out.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
People don't want to save gas that much.
joe rogan
You can't get laid.
brendan schaub
They're so lame.
They're so funny.
joe rogan
A girl riding a Prius.
eddie bravo
It's like a motorcycle.
You're dead.
joe rogan
Yeah.
A girl riding a Prius with you.
Like, oh, he's just really clean.
eddie bravo
He's green.
Vegan chicks.
joe rogan
He's really into the environment.
Who's that?
jamie vernon
Chad Ochocinco.
joe rogan
Chad Ochocinco has a hooked up smart car?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is he doing these days?
eddie bravo
That's a big smart car, right?
That's a special one?
jamie vernon
He was rumored, they tried to do a flag football league, him and T.O. and a couple other players that used to be in the NFL, and they did like a pilot game, I think, to try to see if anybody was interested.
joe rogan
But he's managed to stay fairly relevant.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he's really big on Twitter.
He plays, he goes around the world, I don't know what world, but the United States and challenges people in FIFA. He says he'll play them at their games.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's really good at soccer.
jamie vernon
He's really good at it.
brendan schaub
He's good at physicals.
I mean, like real soccer.
jamie vernon
He just keeps his name out there.
brendan schaub
Flag football, sir?
Absolutely not.
The same as that three-on-three basketball league.
Get the fuck out of my face with that.
joe rogan
He's got a hooked-up smart car.
I've never seen a hooked-up smart car.
brendan schaub
I don't want to see a hooked-up smart car.
joe rogan
You know what?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Vented rotors.
No?
unidentified
You're not into it?
brendan schaub
Nope.
joe rogan
You're angry.
brendan schaub
It's just not for me, man.
joe rogan
You look a little angry.
brendan schaub
It's just not for me, you know?
eddie bravo
Yeah, it looks like you're taking offense.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are not the best cars to drive around in.
brendan schaub
No, fuck no.
joe rogan
These seem super dangerous.
brendan schaub
Prius got cool because Leonardo DiCaprio, you know, rocks them.
joe rogan
You know, he doesn't really rock them.
He just rocked them with a photo shoot and he hopped out of that and right into his Ferrari.
brendan schaub
I just see you, bitches.
joe rogan
I was getting blown, snorting Adderall.
eddie bravo
Does Brian still have the Tesla?
brendan schaub
No.
Oh, he does have a Tesla.
Sorry, he does have a Tesla.
It's all fucked.
eddie bravo
You gotta have a Tesla.
Might as well.
joe rogan
That's a dope car, man.
eddie bravo
Is that a Tesla?
joe rogan
Fisker.
Fisker Karma.
brendan schaub
They caught on fire, though, didn't they?
joe rogan
Well, the old ones did.
When they had that hurricane that hit the East Coast a couple years back, they had all these bitches parked near some water, and the tide came in, and they all blew up.
When they went underwater, they just started exploding.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you can get for cheap.
If it rains, you're kind of fucked, but they're cool.
joe rogan
Well, I think they've fixed that.
brendan schaub
No, they're out of business.
joe rogan
No, they're back.
unidentified
Are they back?
joe rogan
Yeah, Fisker's back.
brendan schaub
Damn, I want one.
joe rogan
They have a new car.
There's all the cars.
Look at them all.
unidentified
They're all just fucking cinders.
joe rogan
They all just blew up and caught on fire.
That is fucking hilarious, man.
Look at them all.
brendan schaub
Fuck.
joe rogan
Imagine the people that own them.
Like, hey, you fucking piece of shit.
What if I drive through a puddle?
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
That car's gonna blow up?
brendan schaub
That's a sweet ride, though.
That's like, you know, step up from Tesla.
joe rogan
That's the future.
It's way cool.
That's Leonardo.
Justin Bieber had one.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the Biebs had the gold one.
The chrome one, yeah.
joe rogan
I think that's the future, is electric cars.
It's just they're not quite ready for prime time right now.
brendan schaub
I know for the environment, I get it.
I like that aspect.
I just can't get into it, man.
I get into a Tesla, and it bums me out.
joe rogan
They're better for the air, for sure.
But environmentally, there's a lot of concerns with those things.
Like how they extract the minerals that they use to make the batteries.
The lithium.
Lithium comes from a lot of, like, they call them conflict minerals.
It comes from a lot of, like, really poor areas where people are forced to mine these things.
They have no other way to make money.
There have been a bunch of articles written on it.
eddie bravo
Isn't that how all shit's made?
joe rogan
Pretty much.
Cell phones.
eddie bravo
You can say that about everything.
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing.
It's just cell phones.
Like cell phones, like coltan that they use to make cell...
Is that how you call it?
Coltan?
I think it's called coltan.
It's a mineral that they use to make cell phones.
And for the longest time, at least, it was like a lot of it was being made in the Congo.
And these people were essentially like almost slaves, like mining this stuff.
These little children, these child workers to mine this stuff.
There it is.
brendan schaub
It's a lot of stuff, though, isn't it?
joe rogan
Coltan.
Conflict minerals in the Congo.
Documentaries have been done on this.
It's horrible.
So in the Congo, this is one place that's particularly rich with cold tan, and these poor, poor, poor people, like a level of poor that you and I just will never understand.
brendan schaub
And we need that for our phones?
joe rogan
Yep, yep.
It's a key ingredient in cell phones.
And I think maybe laptops too, but definitely cell phones.
It's fucked up, dude.
You know, it's just, it's a weird thing, man.
You got a phone, right?
If you got a phone made by any of these major companies, a lot of them get made in China.
People are jumping off the roofs of the buildings right now.
unidentified
These guys are suffering?
eddie bravo
Or are they just working?
What's going on right here?
joe rogan
Well, they're getting paid very little money.
eddie bravo
But compared to us or compared to other people there?
brendan schaub
That's the standard payout there, right?
eddie bravo
Maybe they're balling.
Maybe they're happy to have a job.
Are they hanging themselves like in China?
joe rogan
I don't know.
unidentified
Apple had to put up a net so many people were jumping up.
eddie bravo
They were just sifting through the gravel, chilling, with their headphones on, listening to podcasts.
joe rogan
People die doing it all the time.
Yeah, they're listening to How Stuff Works.
eddie bravo
Listening to JFK docs.
joe rogan
They're listening to TED Talks on Coltan.
Like, no, this is not how it goes.
unidentified
Motherfuckers, I'm knee-deep in mud right now looking for this.
Let me call you back.
eddie bravo
I'm on Facebook.
brendan schaub
I gotta piss so bad, man.
joe rogan
Let's wrap this bitch up.
EBI is tomorrow.
Eddie Bravo, tell people how they can listen, tune in, give them a pitch.
eddie bravo
It's gonna be on UFC Fight Pass, or you can order it on pay-per-view at inchbyinch.tv.
It's at the Orpheum, so if you're anywhere in Southern California, get down there and watch it live.
It's in downtown LA. Gary Tonin, Wagner Rocha, Nathan Orchard, PJ Bark, Bill Cooper, and a four-man combat jiu-jitsu tournament.
brendan schaub
Goddamn.
eddie bravo
Featuring Richie Martinez.
joe rogan
Super high-level jiu-jitsu.
Brendan Schaub, what's going on with you?
brendan schaub
I'm on tour November, December.
tfatk.com for tickets.
Calusa, Ohio.
I'm in Buffalo.
eddie bravo
Damn!
brendan schaub
I'm all over.
Nashville, Zanies.
unidentified
Damn!
brendan schaub
I'm all over, man.
eddie bravo
Congratulations, man.
brendan schaub
Thanks, brother.
tfatk.com.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
That's it, friends.
We're done for today.
See ya!
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