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Oct. 18, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #1025 - Greg Fitzsimmons
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unidentified
Is it working?
joe rogan
Is it live?
It says it's live.
Gregory, we're live.
greg fitzsimmons
This is it!
joe rogan
This is it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
joe rogan
There's definitely more of an echo in this room.
We're gonna have to do some tweaking, ladies and gentlemen.
This is episode number one in the new spot.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
joe rogan
Jamie's fucking up already!
Jesus!
There's extra mics on?
jamie vernon
I had all the mics on.
joe rogan
Oh, the back mics?
jamie vernon
Those are off now.
joe rogan
Oh.
greg fitzsimmons
That sounds better.
joe rogan
Yeah, it changed everything.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're a wizard.
How'd you notice?
You could feel it.
You could sense it in the room.
greg fitzsimmons
He should be behind a curtain like the Wizard of Oz.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What color was the Wizard of Oz's curtain?
It was green, right?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
Yeah, green.
joe rogan
Wasn't it?
jamie vernon
Emerald City, right?
joe rogan
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Right.
Emerald City.
Gregory, welcome.
greg fitzsimmons
I feel so happy to be here on the first episode.
joe rogan
Dude, I'm honored.
I'm honored that you're number one.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Perfect.
joe rogan
Seems perfect.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, this is perfect.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
It's crazy, right?
greg fitzsimmons
He just gave me a tour of this place, and it's like, I saw the first half and was like, what the fuck's he gonna do with all this space?
The back half is bigger than the first half.
joe rogan
Well, it's gonna be a gym.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
An actual full gym.
I don't like going places.
Do it all right here.
greg fitzsimmons
Got your tank, your sauna.
joe rogan
There's a 47-yard indoor archery range in here.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that's going to be badass.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Why not?
Fuck it.
But the big thing is to set up the studio and to have it as close to the old one as possible.
Basically, we built it.
The only difference is the sky, thanks to octolights, now we have clouds in the sky instead of stars.
We decided to mix it up a little bit, change the curtain color.
greg fitzsimmons
I love that it feels the same as the other one, though.
joe rogan
Pretty fucking similar.
greg fitzsimmons
I mean, the dimensions, are they exact?
Very close.
joe rogan
Very close.
And this is a standalone...
I mean, this was built.
So it was built to the same size.
I mean, this did not exist.
So this is all, like, constructed.
Basically, we just...
I had all these ideas, like, well, I'll do it this way, and I'll do it this way, and I'll make a table that's different.
And then as time went on, and I started doing the planning and everything, I said, you know what?
I don't...
I don't think I want to change much at all.
Like, this table, first of all, is giant.
Like, I love this table.
And it's got all this weird history to it.
greg fitzsimmons
It's got a little bend to it.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, when we got it, the wood hadn't been kiln-dried.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
So when wood sits out or it goes anywhere, it gets damp, and then when it dries out, it starts to warp a little bit, change and shift.
So it's got a little warp to it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I like it.
This desk got history.
greg fitzsimmons
It's got history, and the red brick wall looks exactly the same.
joe rogan
Yeah, pretty close.
Pretty close.
We're rolling.
greg fitzsimmons
Jamie's over there in his spot.
joe rogan
It's pretty close.
I mean, it's like...
I have to remind myself that we're in a new spot.
That's perfect.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, after we do a few episodes here, we'll be like, oh, this is the spot.
jamie vernon
After a fight companion.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Especially once the boozing starts again.
Once the boozing and the weed starts again in November...
greg fitzsimmons
How hard has that been for you?
joe rogan
Easy.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Super easy.
The other day we went to Mexican food and I wanted a margarita and I went, damn, I can't have a margarita.
That's it.
That's literally my only craving.
People talk to you about like, because the initial thing wasn't quitting weed, right?
The initial thing was just getting Bert Kreischer to not die.
So like our idea was like, let's see if we can get him to go sober for a month.
And he was like, I can run a marathon.
I'm like, stop.
greg fitzsimmons
Fuck this.
joe rogan
You're not going to run a marathon.
We're like, listen, how about instead of you running a marathon, we just have you do 15 hot yoga classes?
And they're like, oh, that'll be easy.
I'm like...
He hasn't even done one.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't know if it's easy.
So now they're slogging away through like, I think they're all at like number six or seven right now.
greg fitzsimmons
Do we have video of Bert in a hot yoga class?
joe rogan
No video.
No, but they take videos after him and Tom get out and they're both beet red and covered in sweat.
It's pretty obvious they went through it.
greg fitzsimmons
The towel is just drenched.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But Bert has done amazing.
First of all, his blood pressure has dropped radically.
He was actually on high blood pressure medication.
And after this, after stopping drinking, just immediately his blood pressure dropped radically.
So he doesn't even need blood pressure medication if he doesn't drink.
greg fitzsimmons
That's amazing.
joe rogan
The only thing that's doing him in is the booze.
But people would come up to me about the weed.
So the weed wasn't in the original bet.
The original bet was just no booze, which I thought would be pretty easy.
And then they're like, alright, we're going to go no weed too.
And I was like, no weed?
Fuck you.
Like, I'm just doing this for Bert.
Like, I don't want to stop smoking.
And then they were giving me a hard time about it.
They started this hashtag pray for Joe campaign because I was addicted to pot.
So I initially thought I'll just get off weed and not tell them until the end and go, it was fucking easy, you pussies.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then Ari was making such a big deal out of it.
I had to say, actually, dude, I'm not smoking pot either.
Just to let the cat out of the bag.
Tom Segura already knew.
But people come up to you like you're not eating for a month.
Like, you okay?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right, right.
joe rogan
How do you feel?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Are you off heroin for good?
greg fitzsimmons
But it's such a part of...
I don't know, for you, it never seemed like an addiction.
For my vision of you doing drugs, it's always mind-expanding, and it's always just to relax.
It's never like an addiction.
It never felt like you needed to.
joe rogan
I definitely don't need it, obviously.
I've had some great sets, too, which has been very interesting.
I usually like to go on stage high.
I haven't done that at all, though.
No pot...
For 17 days?
Is that what today is?
unidentified
What's today?
joe rogan
The 17th?
So no pot for 17 days.
greg fitzsimmons
Where do you miss it the most?
Before going on?
joe rogan
No.
I haven't missed it.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
It's been weird.
You know, I was like, maybe there's going to be a moment where I'm like, wow, I'd like to have some weed.
I'm a little nervous about smoking again.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because I know I'm going to get so high that I'm going to be so paranoid and all these demons are going to come creeping up into my consciousness again.
All the paranoid, psychic demons.
They're just going to come floating by.
greg fitzsimmons
It's like that first orgasm after you get your prostate removed.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
For real.
Once you're back, it just seems like it's going to hit you way, way, way harder.
That's what everybody says.
You take a month off and then you get back on the pot.
Then you know why everybody freaks out when you get them high.
You know, because we're so used to getting high that when we get high, it's no big deal.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But when people don't get high, and they're like, oh, I'll smoke a little weed with you, but they haven't smoked pot maybe like six months or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those people are fucked.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
They're in a bad place.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
I got a nice, easy rhythm going.
I got the little vape pen, and when I'm on the road, you know, Thursday, Friday night, Couple hits.
That's pretty much it.
joe rogan
And you never do it before shows, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Never.
Never, ever.
joe rogan
And you took a long time.
When I first met you, way back in the day, when we first started out, you had just quit booze.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, just quit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you weren't doing nothing.
No pot, no booze, no nothing.
Like, what was it that made you realize, I could smoke a little weed?
greg fitzsimmons
It was New Year's Eve of...
2004. Whoa!
So I had not smoked pot for 14 years.
unidentified
Whoa!
greg fitzsimmons
Or drank or anything.
And then I'm standing outside of the Improv in San Francisco, and I'm with, I won't mention the manager's name, but a manager who smokes a lot of pot that we all know and love.
And the entire cast of the Marijuana Logs is Doug Benson, Tony Kameen, and Brian Posehn.
And they're all there!
It's just like a weird thing where, you know, I don't know if you've ever done New Year's Eve in San Francisco, but there's like three different venues that all do comedy.
You know, there's Cobbs, there's the Punchline, and then there's a big theater, the Palais, the Palace of Fine Arts, or whatever.
And then there's an after party at the Punchline.
And it's the greatest after party.
Because usually you go on the road and after your show, you're just kind of alone.
Maybe you got your opener or whatever and you hang out.
But this is always like, you know, every comic in San Francisco comes together.
And I'm standing out front and they're standing there with a joint and they hand it to me.
And I felt like this is the moment I'm supposed to smoke pot again.
And I did.
And...
And then the weirdest fucking thing happened is I went down to help Molly.
You know, she had a van coming from the palace and she had a box of booze that had been the backstage bar.
And she's carrying a bottle of vodka and she's walking towards the steps and this group, we were talking about San Francisco homeless people before, group of like, you know, they're like 21 and they're like street urchins.
They're like, you know, it's almost like, yeah, the warriors come out.
It's like that type of person.
And they grab the bottle of booze out of Molly's hand.
And I'm standing there with Todd Barry, Paul F. Tompkins, and like, I think Greg Proops.
There's like two guys in suits.
And so they grab this bottle from Molly and she chases after them.
I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
That's not your booze.
It's the club's booze.
And she runs right in the middle of them.
And they, she grabs the bottle.
And she's fighting with this woman over it.
And these guys are surrounding her.
And I run in.
And I grab her and start pulling her out.
But at the same time, guys fist cocked, waiting to take a shot at me.
And I'm yelling to these guys, Hey, how about a little help here?
And nothing.
And so I kind of pull her out of there.
And we half run away.
And then as we're walking up the stairs, they threw a blockbuster.
An M-80.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
greg fitzsimmons
And it landed right near us, and it blew out...
Oh, and there was a lesbian...
joe rogan
For people who don't know what that means, it's a firecracker.
Like a super big...
greg fitzsimmons
It's an eighth of a stick of dynamite.
joe rogan
Is it really that much?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that's what an M-80 is.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, I didn't know it was that powerful.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I mean, you feel it in your chest.
And blew out Molly's hearing for like a year.
And, uh, people were crying.
It was, like, really traumatic.
And I'm high.
I'm like, this is the fucking worst.
After 14 years, I was just like, fuck, this is nuts.
I was walking the girl back to the hotel because she was sobbing.
It wasn't Tig.
It was a lesbian comedian who had a girlfriend with her.
And, uh...
Yeah, it was fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were talking about how San Francisco is just a little bit too lenient with their homeless population.
They're just a little silly with it.
Yeah.
And we were talking about how they have it mapped out where people shit in the streets now.
So you could avoid human shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's either a website or an app.
I'm not sure which one it is, but they're basically keeping up-to-date human poo stats.
greg fitzsimmons
How do they know it's human versus dog?
joe rogan
Probably smells worse.
People are gross.
greg fitzsimmons
Maybe there's a little toilet paper next to it?
joe rogan
My dogs shit all over the house last night.
My dogs, I have a young dog and two old dogs, right?
And my big old dog is a Mastiff, and he's super cool with every dog.
Any dog comes over, hey, how you doing?
He's super friendly.
But my little dog is kind of a twat.
Is something going on with the lights?
They just dim?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, they're turning off.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, scary.
joe rogan
Scary, spooky.
greg fitzsimmons
What kind of dog is the little dog?
joe rogan
What is that, Jamie?
jamie vernon
It's the motion sensor.
That's why we're getting it replaced.
joe rogan
Oh, so things were not here.
Oh, well, how do we fix that?
That's dumb.
Okay.
Anyway, the little dog is a...
He's not that little.
He's a medium-sized dog, I guess.
He's a Shibu Inu English Bulldog mix, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Nice.
joe rogan
And he has an issue with any dog.
He's a little cunt.
Like, any dog is like...
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the puppy is 11 months old to have a golden retriever.
He's the sweetest dog in the world.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, that's great.
joe rogan
He's the best.
But he can't go near the bulldog.
The bulldog bit him in his face when he was a puppy.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit!
joe rogan
Really hurt him, like put a big cut in his nose and I take him to the vet.
So two of the dogs sleep in this one little contained area, but they opened up the door and wandered around the house and just took a shit in the middle of the living room, pissed on the wall.
And they did all this because the other dog is in the house.
The other dog is in there like, well, if he's in here, we're just going to shit all over the place and mark this place up.
They'd never done that before.
So it was really interesting.
Like dog psychology.
Like they were pissed that the other dog gets to be in better spots than them.
So they just decided to shit in the living room.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
That's a statement.
Shit.
joe rogan
They made their statement.
It's funny because the big one, I could have him with the new dog, no problem.
He loves them.
They play together.
He has a great time, but I just don't trust that other one.
greg fitzsimmons
So what are you going to do?
joe rogan
Shoot the other one in the head.
greg fitzsimmons
Hunting accident?
joe rogan
No.
Just keep them separated.
I mean, I can have them around together when I'm there.
He's a cool old dog.
He likes people.
He loves people.
People come over, he loves you.
He's a very sweet dog.
It's apparently an English Bulldog trait.
They just do not like other dogs.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They just don't.
They want all the love.
unidentified
They're tough dogs.
greg fitzsimmons
And they have a lot of health issues.
They fucking wheeze.
joe rogan
He's had two surgeries on his knees.
Both his front knees are fucked up.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's just got like...
They just...
It's a terrible thing what they've done.
Designing them like that.
Taking them and putting them into this...
Shape that's really not supposed to exist.
greg fitzsimmons
Shortening their nose.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like it's really fucked up.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What they've done.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Yeah, that breed may need to be put down.
joe rogan
Well, it's weird.
Like, why?
Why did anybody decide to have a dog that has a flat face, that can't breathe, can't walk very good?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're always in pain, so they just want to lie down.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, those dogs, they're not ball chasers.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
You throw a ball to an English Bulldog, he's like, fuck off, man.
I'm not running after that thing.
Everything hurts.
They just waddle everywhere.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
It's weird because the original bulldog was a dog that they literally used to use for what they call bull baiting.
What bull baiting is, they would tie a bull down so it couldn't go anywhere, and then they would sick the dogs on the bull.
That's what a bulldog is.
unidentified
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like sport.
greg fitzsimmons
What was the point of that?
joe rogan
I don't know.
greg fitzsimmons
Just to fuck with the bull?
joe rogan
I'd have to look into it.
No, I think it was like a bedding thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh.
joe rogan
You know, it's like a blood sport thing.
Yeah.
That's originally what a bulldog looked like.
Do you know what American bulldog looks like?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
American bulldog is like sort of pit bull-esque, but larger.
Like much larger.
American bulldog has got kind of a pit bull-like face, sort of a flat nose, but nothing like an English bulldog.
They're really smart dogs.
They're very good dogs.
A buddy might have had one, and it was a great dog.
They're tanks.
They're like this big, jacked up, but a totally functional dog.
They run, they use them for protection.
They're just really good dogs.
And the English version of them is like, what that dog is, is like, I might be fucking this up, but I think they took that dog and somehow or another bred it down to this really gross, cute, fat, flat-nosed, shitty, breathing English bulldog.
greg fitzsimmons
Did they want it to look like the royal family?
unidentified
Yeah, they had them fuck only their sisters.
joe rogan
Only fuck your sister.
Only fuck your sister.
And then they took those puppies.
No, no, no.
You can't fuck your sister.
Okay.
And then your babies fuck each other.
Your babies fuck each other.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
You look fine.
It was Irish.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
It's weird that they all came from wolves.
You know, a wolf could fuck an English bulldog and get it pregnant.
That's what's incredible.
No shit.
The genetics are the same.
They didn't know this until, like, I want to say less than a decade ago.
They used to think that all wolves...
We're like wolves.
And then dogs were like a combination of a bunch of different things.
Wild cannids like jackals and coyotes and all these different things.
And that we had somehow or another bred them down.
Because there's no real record of how anybody ever did that.
And if you go back to the history of domesticated dogs, it spans over 10,000 years.
So it predates human history.
We really don't know how the fuck anybody made a chihuahua.
We just know that it's chihuahuas.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
I know that the first domesticated dogs were the ones that basically were, you know, docile, that could come near the fire.
joe rogan
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
And so the ones that were friendlier and nicer kept and they killed the other ones.
joe rogan
I put up a picture on Instagram yesterday.
I reposted something somebody sent me where this fucking lady found a young coyote and she thought it was a dog and she washed it and they put it up on Facebook.
greg fitzsimmons
It's fucking...
joe rogan
And she's like, it's kind of aggressive, but now it's sleeping, and it's like a little coyote, and this lady's washing a fucking coyote in the tub.
greg fitzsimmons
And are people just writing, Lady!
unidentified
Get it out of the house!
joe rogan
It's kind of hilarious.
greg fitzsimmons
She gets her period, and it just fucking lunges at her.
joe rogan
Attacks her.
There it is.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
Lost dog found in Chamberlain Road.
No collar.
Seems a bit aggressive.
Also, doesn't like bass, but she was pretty dirty.
Took most of the night, but she's resting comfy now on the bed.
Look at that thing.
That is a fucking coyote, obviously.
And it's obviously a little one, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's probably a young one, like a yearling or something.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, you can't domesticate a coyote.
joe rogan
But you can, in a weird way.
I know a guy who...
Well, I don't know him, but I follow his Instagram account.
I forget his name.
Shit.
But anyway, oddly enough, this guy has dogs that he uses to hunt coyotes with.
Which is really crazy.
greg fitzsimmons
Hunt to kill?
joe rogan
Hunt to kill.
And he found coyote puppies in a den.
And so they found these coyote puppies in the den, and he felt bad that these little coyote puppies, like, I don't know what happened to the mother.
So they raised one.
So he took a coyote puppy in, and now it lives with him.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow!
joe rogan
Yeah, and it gets along, like, the only problem is when they feed it.
Is that him?
Could be.
greg fitzsimmons
Looks like a German Shepherd.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, but he's had it since it was a baby.
The dog, I think that is, I don't know if that's him.
But this guy has all this video of it on his site of him with this coyote puppy with his other dogs.
They're all barking together and shit.
And he said the only problem, they get along great until it's time to eat.
And when it's time to eat, the coyote's like, fuck off!
greg fitzsimmons
Everybody, fuck off!
joe rogan
This is like full feral as soon as it's time to eat.
But he's had the thing since, I think he said it was a couple months old when he got it.
Just freshly weaned.
greg fitzsimmons
That's amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can raise them.
But they're wolves.
Coyotes are wolves.
greg fitzsimmons
My friends have a dingo.
joe rogan
What?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did it eat the baby?
greg fitzsimmons
Dingo ate the baby!
unidentified
A dingo ate my baby.
greg fitzsimmons
And this thing is the same way.
If you got some food on the counter and it's four feet off the ground, that fucking thing, you leave the room for one second, that food is gone.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're just feral.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's funny, my puppy was like that when he was little.
I mean, that's how puppies are.
But I forgot, because I haven't had a puppy in a while.
And I was eating, and I put some food on his plate, and he saw it, and he was like, Oh, I want some of that.
He jumped up, put his feet on the table, leaned in and tried to bite it and got a piece of meat in his mouth.
And I was like, hey, fucker.
And I'm like, oh, I got to teach him this.
Because they don't know.
They feel like, well, the food's right there.
Time to get the food.
unidentified
There's the food.
greg fitzsimmons
I see it.
joe rogan
There it is.
greg fitzsimmons
It's right there.
Yeah, our neighbors were having people over.
They were having a party, and I was over there, and they had a husky, a fucking badass Alaskan husky.
And this thing was, you know, beyond puppy.
It was big.
And they had meatballs, Swedish meatballs, like four platters of them, right out of the oven, still fucking hot.
And they left the room, and they came back, and they were gone.
joe rogan
He ate all of them?
greg fitzsimmons
All the Swedish meatballs.
Hot.
He didn't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's like, here's my chance.
Have a full belly or have a, you know, or burn your tongue and have a full belly or not.
greg fitzsimmons
No food.
And this is an Irish party.
This wasn't like, there's Swedish meatballs and there's sausage.
No.
Irish is one fucking thing and now it's gone.
The Swedish meatballs are gone.
joe rogan
The dog ate all the food.
Yeah.
It's a weird relationship that humans have with dogs.
Because you know, a lot of people have dogs that sleep in their beds, they come with you places, they hop in the car, and then there's the assholes that have those emotional support dogs.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, is the jury out on that still?
joe rogan
It's a fucking ridiculous part of modern 21st century life that we allow that stupid shit.
I was in a fucking restaurant, like a really nice restaurant.
This lady came in, and she's a lady from Real Housewives.
She was one of those, uh, what's, no, not the show, Desperate Housewives.
She's a famous actress.
I don't want to say her name.
Very pretty lady.
She hit the skids, though.
But anyway, she brings in this fucking dog, and people are looking at her like, what?
It's a dog, like a golden lab, like a big dog.
And she brings this dog in, and she's sitting there eating, and this dog's on the floor, where you might drop a fry, or your fork, and pick it up and wipe it off, and this dog's assholes just rubbing on the ground right there.
I mean, basically, you have this...
This animal's dick is like rubbing on the ground and rubbing on things and dirt on its feet.
It's probably stepping in shit.
greg fitzsimmons
And people have allergies to dogs.
unidentified
100%.
greg fitzsimmons
They fucked up their night.
joe rogan
100%.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it's somehow or another, they can get a note from their doctor that says they're too fucking weak to exist without this dog with them 24 hours a day.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's an emotional support dog.
greg fitzsimmons
There's a lot of comics that have them.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's like a loophole.
Like Natasha has one, but she like openly admits it's a loophole.
So she can bring the dog everywhere.
She's got a doctor's note.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It says she's soft.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
I think it's...
What's her name's has to be?
Eliza's must be.
joe rogan
Does she have it set up?
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
I'm sure.
That thing doesn't leave her side.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She'll make you watch it though when she goes on stage.
Here, hold this, Greg.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right, right.
joe rogan
You're like, what?
greg fitzsimmons
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
And then people finger it.
I love...
joe rogan
I don't.
Not me.
greg fitzsimmons
No, a lot of people do.
joe rogan
That's what I hear.
I heard the dog waits for her to go out and then just takes its ass in the air and starts running at you.
greg fitzsimmons
It presents.
Yeah, it presents.
joe rogan
It just literally runs backwards.
She's going to hear this and be so mad.
greg fitzsimmons
We're kidding, Eliza.
joe rogan
We're kidding.
Don't call her Eliza either.
She'll get mad at that, too.
My name is Eliza.
greg fitzsimmons
Eliza.
joe rogan
You know, she doesn't use the last name anymore?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, neither does...
Well, Christina is Christina P now.
joe rogan
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Sebastian Maniscalco is just Sebastian now.
joe rogan
A lot of white people getting crazy lately.
greg fitzsimmons
Tig Notaro is just Tig.
joe rogan
Is that cultural appropriation?
To use a white person?
To use only one name?
I always forget.
What's cultural appropriation?
We need to constantly be reminded.
I tweeted something today.
I was reading a fucking article and I almost punched my screen.
They're saying that hoop earrings are cultural appropriation.
Girls aren't allowed to wear hoop earrings.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Cultural appropriation!
greg fitzsimmons
Damn!
joe rogan
Do you know how fucking privileged you have to be?
Look at that, hoop earrings criticizes cultural appropriation.
Do you know how soft you have to be to give in to that?
To get into that and how fucking dumb you have to be to say that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You have to be so dumb.
greg fitzsimmons
It's almost racist.
I think it's the opposite.
joe rogan
It's racist against white people.
It's racist.
greg fitzsimmons
No, it's racist against black people.
What?
They're jungle people that only wear giant fucking hoops in their ears?
joe rogan
What I read was Latinas.
Latinas are criticizing it and saying it's a part of their culture.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, it's their culture.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like people are just picking turns.
unidentified
Oh, I thought it was a black thing.
joe rogan
No, black people don't want girls to wear braids.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh.
joe rogan
Cornrows.
Can't wear cornrows.
Yeah, you can wear like regular white people braids.
But little skinny braids?
That's cultural appropriation.
greg fitzsimmons
What about Goldilocks?
She was white.
joe rogan
What about golf shirts?
Are they allowed to wear golf shirts?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
They shouldn't be.
joe rogan
If they're going to get crazy with these braids, it's not we.
greg fitzsimmons
Green pants, yellow belts.
joe rogan
The entire country is a melting pot of cultural appropriation.
You dumb cunts!
That is the whole idea of having a civilization.
You get to share each other's food, share each other's recipes, listen to each other's music, listen to each other's jokes and stories, buy each other's clothes.
Journalists that went to Japan and they were talking about cultural appropriation, whether or not they thought that white girls like Katy Perry wearing the geisha outfit was cultural appropriation.
And they were universally saying, no, we're happy that people love Japanese culture and that they do that.
greg fitzsimmons
They're happy.
joe rogan
But over here, you get these...
Fucking dummies that are just looking to complain and criticize and just call out everything and everybody about everything.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, it's uh, oh my god.
I see this.
joe rogan
What is this?
No, Jeremy Lin?
jamie vernon
Yeah, so he came out with a in the preseason I think he had dreadlocks in his hair and a former NBA player called him out on it Kenyon Martin But Jeremy Lin's response to it was actually really good if you want to check that out.
joe rogan
Hey man, it's all good.
You don't have to like my hair and definitely entitled to your opinion.
Actually, I legit grateful you sharing it, TBH, to be honest.
At the end of the day, I appreciate that I have dreads and you have Chinese tattoos.
greg fitzsimmons
There you go.
joe rogan
Because I think it's a side of respect.
And I think as minorities, the more we appreciate each other's cultures, the more we influence mainstream society.
Thanks for everything you did for the Nets and Hoops.
Had your poster up on my wall growing up.
Oh, shit.
That's really classy.
Somebody really need to tell him, like, alright, bro, we get it, you want to be black, like, we get it, but the last name is Lin, alright?
Well, he's a fucking- Wait, who said that?
The other guy.
greg fitzsimmons
Who is the other guy?
jamie vernon
Kenyon Martin.
joe rogan
Kenyon Martin.
jamie vernon
Usually there's a picture of his Chinese tattoos.
joe rogan
But it's been removed?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, he's a dummy.
And that Jeremy Lin guy is a very classy character for the way he answered it.
First of all, dreads are not black.
They were a sign of people not washing their hair that dates back to the Greeks and the Romans.
There's ancient sculptures of Caucasian looking people with dreadlocks.
Dreadlocks were worn by the Vikings.
It's not a black thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Hmm.
joe rogan
Because some black people wear them does not mean it's...
I mean, the idea that this is a real thing, this cultural appropriation, that people go around pointing at people, saying, you can't wear your hair a certain way.
Like, we're limiting hairstyles.
And it's just, so many people are just looking forward to criticizing and getting shitty with people over almost nothing.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just...
greg fitzsimmons
No, the whole energy of this country is supposed to be Complete assimilation.
Like you said, let's pick the best shit from each culture and make it just American hodgepodge.
And that's what it's about with gentrification.
You know, you want people to not all live in one neighborhood and all dress exactly the same as each other.
You want there to be a merging of different looks, different addresses, working in different trades.
You know, there used to be, if you were Irish, you were a cop.
That's it.
That's what we fucking did.
You know, we were cops or we were soldiers.
When we first came over here in like the 1860s during the famine, they just...
We got off the boat hungry and they threw a fucking uniform on us and sent us in to fight front lines against the South.
Or you were a cop.
joe rogan
And then after that, they got into the trades.
There's a lot of Irish people in unions.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
You know, a lot of Irish in the Longshoremen's Union.
A lot of Irish in the, you know, the Carpenters' Union.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But...
Look, fusion restaurants.
What's a fusion restaurant?
You take a couple different cultures, you combine their food into some sort of a unique thing.
And it was a big thing for a while.
People loved fusion.
They loved that kind of food.
And now there's a ton of people complaining when white people cook Mexican food.
Like there's this famous guy, I forget his name, can't be that famous.
I guess he's not that famous if I forget his name.
But he's a famous white guy who loves Mexican food.
And he opened up a Mexican restaurant, and all these people got pissed that this guy is cooking Mexican food.
But this guy's been writing books about Mexican cuisine.
He goes down to Mexico.
He learns how to cook authentic Mexican dishes from people that live in these villages and towns in Mexico.
And like has a deep love and appreciation for the culture of Mexico.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, this guy's essentially a Mexican cuisine scholar.
And all these people give this fucking poor guy...
That's his name.
What is his name?
jamie vernon
Rick Bayless.
joe rogan
Rick Bayless.
And he's famous.
I mean, I've read one of his books on Mexican food.
And I've seen articles written on him and video interviews and stuff and this guy is getting in trouble with other people.
When chefs become famous, cooking other cultures food.
You don't own your culture, you fucking idiot.
You know why?
Because you didn't create it.
You didn't invent pizza.
You didn't invent pasta.
You didn't invent Chinese food.
It's been around for hundreds of fucking years.
You were just born.
You were born with a certain ethnicity.
You don't own that ethnicity.
The idea that you can keep other people from enjoying it and appreciating the history of other human beings is fucking racist.
And it's stupid.
This thing that we're getting into where we're criticizing people based on various aspects of culture that they enjoy – It's insanity.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's insanity.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
Think about how Italians have affected fashion in this country.
joe rogan
Sure.
greg fitzsimmons
I mean, from high fashion all the way down to the disco era.
joe rogan
How about rap music?
They were all calling themselves Gotti.
Right.
They were all calling Al Capone.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, come on, man.
I mean, how many fucking rap songs...
Like, have Godfather lyrics in them.
It's just...
Cut the shit.
It's so stupid.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so stupid.
And that's my culture.
I'll tell you, you can have it.
greg fitzsimmons
That's why I love...
One of the seminal moments in American culture was Aerosmith getting together with DMC and doing Walk This Way.
That's what America's supposed to be.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just...
It's kids today looking to point the finger at the world they see And looking to find fault in it.
And find fault in each other.
And it's this call-out culture that we see.
There's plenty of shit that's wrong in the world.
There's plenty of shit.
And I guess this is just a byproduct of people having the freedom to communicate.
I mean, I guess that's what we're seeing.
But there's plenty of shit to really pay attention to.
Jeremy Lin wearing dreadlocks isn't on that list.
You know?
Yeah.
They're not on that list.
It's just fucking...
greg fitzsimmons
White kids that wear baggy pants?
So what?
joe rogan
Yeah, so what?
Who gives a shit?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, to me that's a sign that they're like accepting black culture.
That they want to intermix.
They want to hang out together and share each other's fashions and ideas and drugs and women.
joe rogan
Well, the white people, especially like from the suburbs, have always looked towards black people that grew up in difficult circumstances.
And admired something about how tough they were or how, you know, street smart or how cool they were.
They were people that, look, it takes pressure to make a diamond.
You don't make a diamond in Sherman Oaks.
You know?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, we went to the Galleria.
It was crazy.
We went to the food court.
We're radical.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, that's not, you know, those people that live in these, like, safe suburban neighborhoods, the one thing that the troubled kids coming up want to be, they want to be associated in some way with something tougher, something harder, something where, you know, people have had to earn their stripes.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's why they have this love of rap music, especially gangster rap.
That's always been an issue with young white kids.
Since gangster rap was invented, there's always been young white kids who live in the suburbs.
It's always comical watching them sing the lyrics, talking about robbing people and shooting people and dealing drugs.
Meanwhile, they're living in Thousand Oaks or something.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Whose son was it?
Was it, like, Tom Hanks' son?
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
greg fitzsimmons
The big rapper?
joe rogan
Tom Hanks' son is a rapper, and he gets so much shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know if Tom Hanks has commented on it, but it's gotta suck.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, because he's gotta support him.
It's his son.
But the kid is like...
joe rogan
That's it?
Oh, my God.
Does it say limo life?
greg fitzsimmons
Limo life!
joe rogan
It says that on his knuckles?
Oh, good Lord.
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
greg fitzsimmons
Poor Tom Hanks.
He did everything right.
What did he do wrong?
joe rogan
Yeah, but he didn't do everything right.
See, because he's working all the time.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, he worked too much.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you're working all the time...
Is that his son with the green hair and the neck tattoos in the lower right-hand corner?
greg fitzsimmons
Click on that.
That's the Green Day guy, isn't it?
joe rogan
Is it?
I don't know.
Is it?
Tommy Hilfiger's son.
unidentified
I apologize.
joe rogan
You son of a bitch.
Tommy Hilfiger's son has...
Limo Life.
He's a rapper as well.
Oh, terrific.
All you need is a neck tattoo.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he's smoking cigarettes.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
No, it's true.
That kind of working too much.
joe rogan
Jamie's racist.
All white people are the same to him.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, what's up with you, man?
Do me and Joe look the same to you?
joe rogan
Tommy Hilfiger, Tom Hanks, same thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Great.
joe rogan
Same thing to Jamie.
jamie vernon
No, he's not...
He's not that.
unidentified
Oh, he's jacked.
greg fitzsimmons
Damn, he's good looking.
joe rogan
He's probably getting all the pussy.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, Howard Stern had him.
unidentified
He's carrying two guns!
joe rogan
Oh, no.
He feuds with Howard Stern?
What?
He threatens him.
Hold on.
Go to that site.
Visit, please.
What is that about?
What is this?
Tom, what, scroll down, scroll, we could read that?
Tom, Tom Hanks' rapper son feuds with Howard Stern, threatens violence.
Make that larger, please.
Tom Hanks' rapper son Chester, a.k.a.
Chet Hayes, took to Twitter to threaten radio shock jock Howard Stern this week after Stern questioned Hayes' gangsta credentials as the son of a famous Hollywood celebrity.
Oh my god, he joked that Tom Hanks must be annoyed that his son pretends to be a hardened rapper while he grew up in a Tony, California summer.
I always love that word, Tony.
Only people use it for posh.
Where'd he grow up?
Beverly Hills?
Stern joked?
That's...
What a fucking douche.
So what did he say?
What did he say?
Hayes unleashed a torrent of tweets threatening violence calling him a fucking jerry-curled cunt.
What is he saying?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh.
joe rogan
He said, Hayes then knocks Stern for not having much bread
as his family.
greg fitzsimmons
As much bread.
joe rogan
As much bread.
Oh, as his family.
Despite the fact that according to Forbes, Stern is worth an estimated $95 million.
greg fitzsimmons
$95.
He gets $500 million every two years.
joe rogan
It's something crazy like that, right?
Yeah, Howard Stern.
It's a shame you don't hang the same circles as my family.
Not enough bread for that cuz C-U-Z if you did I would have already seen you Tomorrow TMZ or Gawker will write an article about A-B-O-I-T this rant and all I gotta say is keep riding my dick bitches.
Uh-huh Wow Imagine if that was your kid.
Imagine if that was your kid.
I would choke him unconscious.
I would fucking take him down, I would take his back, and I would put him to sleep, and then I'd take pictures of my dick on his forehead.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Yeah.
How to outline it.
That's intervention time.
joe rogan
Son of a bitch.
You're threatening the greatest radio personality in the history of the known universe because he said you're a fucking goof.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And what do you do?
You act like a fucking goof.
God damn it.
greg fitzsimmons
Maybe he is a badass.
unidentified
Assault you.
joe rogan
I will assault you so hard.
greg fitzsimmons
But think about it.
Why can't a rich guy be a badass?
Maybe he is violent.
Maybe he's a little fucking nuts.
He likes guns.
I've never heard his rap.
Do we have any of his rap available?
joe rogan
There are, I'm sure, rich guys who grow up rich who severely overcompensate because they feel like they live in this soft environment.
So they fucking go to CrossFit every day and take jujitsu and become a hard ass.
I don't think he's on that list.
greg fitzsimmons
No.
I don't think Tom Hanks was beating his ass at night.
joe rogan
I just think what he's doing is just trying to be hard and trying to respond to Howard Stern.
Calling him out about that.
It's just like, come on, kid.
Was your dad not around?
Can you call him and talk to him about it?
He would say, what the fuck are you going to say?
Don't say that.
How old is he?
If he's under 23, I'll give him a pass.
greg fitzsimmons
It's almost like Gotti's son.
Remember Gotti's son was always trying to be a badass.
joe rogan
Well, Gotti's son was a criminal.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Though, I mean, he was in the family.
He was in the family business.
greg fitzsimmons
I guess it's different with the mafia.
joe rogan
Well, he's not like Dr. Dre's kid.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
He's fucking Forrest Gump's kid.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
No disrespect, Tom Hanks.
I'm a big fan.
I love Gene the Green Mile.
He's a great actor.
greg fitzsimmons
He's the best actor.
joe rogan
He's a great actor.
By all accounts, a lovely person.
greg fitzsimmons
Yes.
joe rogan
I don't know if he did his job or not.
I mean, I'm just talking shit about him not being around, but I just got to assume that if you're doing that many movies...
greg fitzsimmons
You're not around.
It's hard to be.
Doesn't he have a studio also?
joe rogan
I don't know.
greg fitzsimmons
I think he's got his hand in a studio as well.
That's always amazing to me.
It's like you're being handed, literally, if you're Tom Hanks, you're the first guy that gets offered every script that's in your age range that comes along.
What are you going to fucking produce also?
What are you going to take on the headache of producing movies?
joe rogan
Maybe he enjoys it.
greg fitzsimmons
But what about enjoying hanging out with your family a little bit?
joe rogan
I got weirded out with him when he started doing those movies about the fucking secret, biblical fucking code.
greg fitzsimmons
The Da Vinci Code?
joe rogan
Yeah, I was like, did you read these scripts?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that was bad.
joe rogan
These are terrible movies.
You're goddamn Tom Hanks.
greg fitzsimmons
It was a bad book.
How's a bad book going to become a good movie?
joe rogan
It was just so clunky.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was like, this seems to me like something someone does when they don't have anything else to do.
greg fitzsimmons
And the guy who wrote the book, Dan something.
unidentified
Brown.
greg fitzsimmons
Dan Brown.
He, I think, had a hand in the movie.
So whatever chance it had of upgrading was destroyed.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think they wanted to upgrade.
I think it's like, I mean, did they want to upgrade the fucking, what is the vampire movie that the girls like?
Were the vampires allowed to live in the day?
Twilight.
They're not trying to upgrade Twilight, right?
They wanted to give them what made it popular.
greg fitzsimmons
I think they kind of did, though.
joe rogan
I think they kind of did.
Are you a secret Twilight fan?
greg fitzsimmons
I got a daughter.
I've seen them, and they're fucking great.
They're just really well done.
They're really well done.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
Fitzsimmons, you're getting emotional.
I can see the milk coming out of your nipples while you're sitting here.
It's ridiculous.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, I just took her to see the Beach Boys last weekend.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
The real Beach Boys?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, it was Brian Wilson and it was...
joe rogan
They're alive?
Didn't one of them die recently?
greg fitzsimmons
I think one of the brothers might have died, but it was Al...
Jardine, who founded the Beach Boys with Brian Wilson.
And then they had a couple other...
Then they had Al Jardine's son, who can hit the fucking notes now.
His son is a badass singer.
But it was just fucking great.
They played the entire Pet Sounds album, song by song.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
greg fitzsimmons
And then they played all the hits.
And it was just...
Me and my daughter just had such a fucking blast.
Because she has...
She's 14, and she loves fucking...
The Mamas and the Papas and the Allman Brothers and Pearl Jam.
She's got amazing taste.
And she's a surfer.
She's been surfing for five years, like three days a week.
The Beach Boys are her favorite.
And Pet Sounds is her favorite album.
So that was my birthday present was two tickets and I brought her.
And she was singing every fucking word, and we were laughing.
We had a contest about every time you see a Hawaiian shirt, you get to punch the other person in the arm.
If you see a bald guy with a ponytail, that's two punches.
Open-toed sandals with the Hawaiian shirt and the ponytail was three punches.
joe rogan
So she wants to beat the fuck out of you.
greg fitzsimmons
She fucking nailed me.
Because I got bad eyes.
She was spotting these guys from 100 yards away, wailing on me.
joe rogan
What a psychotic game.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
At a fucking Beach Boys concert, you could get beaten to death.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Kenison had a bit about the Beach Boys in the fucking 80s.
He had a bit about the Beach Boys phoning it in in the 80s.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He goes, you can tell they're just looking at their watch.
I wish they all could be California.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right.
I'll tell you what, though.
Fucking gives you goosebumps when you hear it.
unidentified
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, you realize he's not going to be doing this much longer.
joe rogan
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
And, you know, I feel that way when I see The Stones.
The Stones put on a great fucking show.
joe rogan
Where'd you see The Stones?
greg fitzsimmons
I saw them in Giant Stadium and then I saw them at the Staples Center.
joe rogan
I heard Mick Jagger is very frugal.
That's a nice way of putting it.
greg fitzsimmons
That's what I heard.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, how could you be?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's got to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's still performing all over the world.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Just saving that cash.
greg fitzsimmons
That's right.
joe rogan
Putting it away for a rainy day.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, he's got a lot of kids, a lot of wives.
joe rogan
That's right.
He's got a bunch of baby mamas, right?
greg fitzsimmons
But still, the money.
Crazy money.
joe rogan
He's got a recent one.
greg fitzsimmons
Does he?
joe rogan
Yeah, he knocked a chick up a couple years ago.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, Mick!
unidentified
She's hot, too.
joe rogan
I think she's Brazilian, and I think she's like 28 or something like that.
greg fitzsimmons
And how old is he, 75?
joe rogan
I feel like she's a ballerina.
I feel like she's a ballerina.
greg fitzsimmons
So if he's 75, you're guaranteeing that this child will experience his father's death in the first 20 years of his life.
joe rogan
Yeah, unless something really crazy happens.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, technologically.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, medical technology gets to some point where they can reverse aging.
Which is, apparently, when you talk to people who are, like, legitimate scientists about this, they're like, this is not outside the realm of possibility.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
By any stretch of the imagination.
Like, within our lifetime, it is entirely possible that they figure out a way to stop the aging process dead in its tracks.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Well, Silicon Valley believes it.
All those dudes have got think tanks going for cryogenically saving.
Well, cryogenics, I would imagine, if you do it regularly, I bet that adds.
unidentified
That's different.
joe rogan
You're talking about cryotherapy.
Cryogenics is actually freezing the body dead.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right, right.
Cryotherapy, I would think, would add some time.
joe rogan
Well, there's a company in Northern California that takes the blood of young people and injects it into the bodies of old people.
And there's anecdotal research and research with mice that points to the fact that it's supposed to radically improve behavior and energy in mice.
And conversely, when they take the older mice's blood and they put it in a younger mouse, the younger mouse is like, what the fuck?
The younger mouse starts acting like an old mouse.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, and so we had Eric Weinstein on the other day who works for Peter Thiel.
And Peter Thiel is that billionaire guy in Silicon Valley.
He's the guy that funded that Hulk Hogan lawsuit against Gawker that crushed Gawker.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, because they outed him, apparently.
They outed him as being gay, and he was really pissed at them.
They wrote some, like, really shitty articles about him.
And he was like, alright, fuck you.
How about I just use my money and crush you?
And so he went after them.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, apparently he's offering the women who've accused Harvey Weinstein of sexual assault, he's offering each one of them $100,000 to go after him.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This guy, he's like, he's an interesting, very interesting character, but super rich, super smart, and doesn't give a fuck.
And so the rumor was that he was doing this therapy.
But since then, I've heard that that was not confirmed.
What's that, Jamie?
Yeah, Fetal Thiel is not harvesting the blood of the young.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
That's a good picture.
greg fitzsimmons
Was it Elon Musk, though, trying to work on some kind of...
Life longevity thing.
joe rogan
Is he?
He's probably working on everything, that fucker.
He makes me feel really stupid.
He was at a comedy show once that I did.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah?
joe rogan
With that chick that he just dumped, Johnny Depp's old girlfriend.
And I got legitimately nervous.
greg fitzsimmons
Then he was in the audience?
joe rogan
Then he was in the audience.
unidentified
Yeah.
I know.
joe rogan
Especially because I have a bit about inventors.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I mean, a guy, like, I, as a comedian, and I hope this doesn't come out the wrong way, in order for me to be able to get on stage in front of hundreds of people and take the reins and go, all right, you hundreds of people are going to all shut the fuck up.
I'm the funniest one of them.
I merit you all being quiet for an hour.
You have to do mind games with yourself sometimes, like, especially when you're starting out.
And so you have to, sometimes if it's a gig I'm intimidated by, I'll think to myself, I'm smarter than everybody in this crowd.
And I know I'm not, but I have to tell myself that.
joe rogan
That's a ridiculous thing to think.
greg fitzsimmons
And then it's so hard when you get up.
And I remember I did a gig at this very hipster place in New York and Johnny Depp was in the audience and he was with some fucking model who looked like she was literally starving to death.
And everybody in the crowd was just in black and they were all hip.
And I really felt like, and I said it on stage, I go, usually I just tell myself I'm better looking and I'm richer than everybody in the audience.
And tonight I realize I'm the poorest, ugliest person here.
joe rogan
What a stupid thing to try to convince yourself.
I'm the best looking man alive.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Greg Fitzsimmons.
Here I am.
greg fitzsimmons
Bald.
joe rogan
Here I am.
greg fitzsimmons
Wrinkled.
Short.
joe rogan
Just shimmying on stage.
greg fitzsimmons
But that's the mind game.
That's the trick.
It's like visualization.
joe rogan
But why that trick?
greg fitzsimmons
Because I get scared.
I get intimidated.
Not anymore, but when I was starting out, I used to all the time.
joe rogan
Well, when I come back and I look at starting out, when you and I both started out, we were both like 21. What the fuck does a 21-year-old have to say about anything?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're so dumb.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
joe rogan
Like, I imagine myself today going on stage at 21, like being in the room, watching myself go on stage at 21, and just thinking, what a fucking idiot.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you don't know anything about life.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're basically fresh out of high school, just paying your own bills for like a couple of years.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And here you are, talking into a microphone.
We're grown adults.
Like, I went on stage exactly 16 days after it was legal for me to drink.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
And you got middle-aged people that have real jobs.
joe rogan
Mortgages.
greg fitzsimmons
Mortgages.
joe rogan
Guys who got back from the war.
greg fitzsimmons
People with college degrees, master's degrees.
unidentified
Cops.
joe rogan
People have, like, pulled people out of burning buildings.
People have lost friends in gunfights.
greg fitzsimmons
Widows.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
21-year-old talking to a widow, trying to make him laugh.
joe rogan
Fucking idiot I was.
But there's no other way to do it.
Like, Dane Cook said this once, and it was a very insightful thing.
He was like, if I had to do it again, like if I had to start comedy again, I really don't think I could do it.
He's like, it's so overwhelming, the idea of starting again.
Like, ten years in.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, but that's kind of what we've done with podcasting.
We start over again.
I mean, we had momentum because we had been in entertainment, but I feel like it was the healthiest thing in the world, the podcast, for me, because, you know, all these years you were doing stand-up, and you get to a certain point where...
I always think of it as like your bottom and your top rise over the years.
They should.
They should continue.
Like the worst bomb you're going to have now is so much higher than the worst bomb you would have had five years ago, ten years ago, twenty years ago.
ago and so you do need to challenge yourself and like with the podcast it's a whole different rhythm and you're not you're not getting immediate feedback and and plus it's a business you got to build it you got to get your equipment and you got to you know sell ads and all that shit and it was like for me it was really good it woke me up again like oh yeah i got it gave me confidence that i could do something new that's interesting because you're already doing the radio show right Well, I did the podcast about a year after I started the radio show.
joe rogan
How long have you been doing the podcast?
greg fitzsimmons
Like eight or nine years.
joe rogan
Yeah, I didn't think of it at all that way.
I thought of the podcast as just fun.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just something to do for a goof.
And I did it for years, like, irregularly before I ever wound up committing to it.
greg fitzsimmons
What, like every few weeks and then a couple in a row?
joe rogan
Yeah, like do it in the green room.
We would do it in the green room.
Joey Diaz would always get mad.
Shut that fucking thing off!
You guys are always fucking online.
You're fucking around online.
Shut it off, Joe Rogan!
He would get mad.
I'd be like, people like it.
You're wasting your fucking time on the internet!
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
I was relentless.
joe rogan
That's like the biggest part of his life now.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
joe rogan
His podcast is gigantic for him.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
I just did it the other night.
He was so high.
He fucking gave me the...
I forgot where his studio was, so I said, send me the address again.
So he sends me the address.
I fucking pull up on this dark road, and I go, oh, he wants to fucking switch his studio or something, because this isn't the old one.
So I go, oh, what the fuck?
It's a house.
I guess he's doing it in the back of his house.
I fucking ring the doorbell.
It's his house!
It was so high, he gave me his fucking home address instead of the studio.
I'm texting him.
I'm out in front.
Dog, I don't see you out front.
joe rogan
I'm looking.
The fucking street's empty, Greg Fitzsimmons.
greg fitzsimmons
And I walk in, and he's chewing down those, what are they, Black Star something?
joe rogan
Oh, God.
greg fitzsimmons
He's got a bong going.
He's had mushrooms.
Lee Syatt is sitting there.
His eyes are shut.
joe rogan
Lee.
greg fitzsimmons
His eyes are shut.
unidentified
I don't know how he sees the equipment.
Lee can't handle it.
joe rogan
I don't know how he does it.
Lee can't handle it.
You can look in his eyes sometimes.
Like, I've been on a show before, and when someone says something, I always feel like we're having a conversation.
Someone says something, I go, what do you mean by that?
And then we're having a talk.
But if you say, like, Lee said something, I go, what does that mean?
And he was like...
It's him lock up, like...
unidentified
It's just way too high to have this conversation.
He was talking about how...
joe rogan
He was like, it seems like audio is the thing of the future.
I go, what?
What do you mean?
He goes, well, it just seems like people, they're always on their phones while they're on TV, or they're watching a movie, they're talking on their phone, or they're looking through their phone, or they're listening to things while they're doing other things.
I go, what?
You're listening to things while you're watching TV? What?
Who the fuck was playing with their phone while they're watching TV? And he's like...
Paranoia wash over him like a tidal wave.
I'm like, I gotta leave this poor guy alone.
greg fitzsimmons
He's too high.
Joey makes him do everything he does.
joe rogan
Not only does Joey do that, Joey swaps edibles on him.
Like, Lee, try this.
It's only 50 milligrams.
And he'll take a 500 milligram pot and he'll put it in the wrapper of a 50 and twist it back up.
It's mild.
It's mild.
unidentified
I have four of them.
joe rogan
And so it gives him enough to make you reconsider your existence in the universe.
greg fitzsimmons
While he's running the soundboard.
And he doesn't fuck up!
He's a good engineer.
joe rogan
He's very good.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's healthy to be around Joey all the time like that.
It can be really dangerous.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, also, Joey's so good to him.
They just have a very...
Very unique relationship, man.
I mean, that's a goddamn show, that relationship right there.
Because Joey's like a father figure to him, kind of.
joe rogan
Yeah, in some insane way.
Joey's a sweetheart, as long as you're on his side.
But the worst place in the world is a guy who's against Joey.
I've seen Joey have feuds with people.
It is a horrible thing to watch.
Because he's so passionate about his friendship with people that when someone turns on him, he's as loving and as friendly and as warm as he is.
You know how he is.
When he sees you, it's all hugs.
He calls you up.
He calls you, Greg Fitzsimmons, what's going on, baby?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
Making him suck your dick.
I know what you're doing, dog.
He loves you.
I love Joey.
He's my family, 100%.
But if you turn on him, man, it's a fucking...
I've seen him go after people.
It's scary.
It's crazy.
He's so...
He's Cuban.
And he came up...
He had a really fucked up situation growing up.
He found his mom dead when he was 13. He was on acid.
He was raised by his friend's family.
greg fitzsimmons
And he was sucking a tit that night, too.
joe rogan
Was he?
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, he was sucking some girl's tit on acid when he found his mom dead, yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus.
Boy, some symbolism in that, huh?
Remember when sucking a tit was like, this is as good as it gets.
I don't need anything better than this.
greg fitzsimmons
It's still.
It's still.
My wife, thank God, I could not have married a woman that didn't have nice tits.
joe rogan
Oh, there's a lot of women out there with little tits that are angry at you right now.
greg fitzsimmons
Sorry, you're not real women.
I'm kidding!
I'm kidding.
But I couldn't have married one.
I respect you and I'll hang out with you.
I'll let you into my shows.
But I'm not going to marry you.
unidentified
I'll let you into my shows!
greg fitzsimmons
If you get out of the itty-bitty titty committee early and you want to go see a comedy show...
Wow.
Look, I respect all women.
Do you all of them?
joe rogan
What about mean ones that kill people?
greg fitzsimmons
I respect them even more.
They're fighting back.
They're MeTooing out there.
joe rogan
Huh?
greg fitzsimmons
You didn't hear about the hashtag MeToo?
joe rogan
No.
greg fitzsimmons
You're going to love this, Joe Rogan.
Oh, God.
There's a thing now, because of Harvey Weinstein, there's a hashtag that women that have been sexually harassed pound sign MeToo on their social media.
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Well, sexually harassed, I would say it's probably 100%.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, because it's a murky definition, you know?
I mean, some of the stories that you hear, and look, this Harvey Weinstein thing is atrocious, and guys that are like that are the reason why guys like us have to watch what we say.
All the sensitivity that we've been talking about is because of a few, not a few assholes, there's a lot of assholes.
joe rogan
And it's not just, I mean, we're not talking about a person trying to get laid.
We're talking about a person who is holding employment over people.
unidentified
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
Power.
joe rogan
And did you see the TMZ thing?
Where TMZ... They were describing the nature of his contract, that he had sexual assault and sexual harassment, lawsuits written into the contract, like how much he would be fined.
And for one person saying it, it was a certain amount of money.
For two allegations.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no shit.
joe rogan
It was more for three.
It was like $100,000, $250, $750, a million.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had it written in.
greg fitzsimmons
Like caps on how much he should have to pay.
joe rogan
No, like how much they would pay him.
or how much he would have to pay.
According to the contract, if Weinstein treated someone improperly in violation of the company's code of conduct, he must reimburse TWC for the settlements or judgments.
Additionally, you, Weinstein, will pay the company liquidationally Just imagine.
That they wrote this in.
They're complicit.
They're all complicit.
There's another provision.
He can be fired for the perpetuation by you, Weinstein, of a material fraud against the company.
Okay, what does that mean?
The question, where's the fraud?
Lance Maroff, a board member who negotiated the Weinstein 2015 contract said in an interview, and we've confirmed, the board knew Weinstein had settled prior lawsuits brought by various women, but they assumed it was to cover up consensual affairs.
greg fitzsimmons
Sure it was.
joe rogan
The board's assumption does not constitute fraud on Weinstein's part.
greg fitzsimmons
Hmm.
joe rogan
Scroll up.
Keep going.
More surprisingly is how TWC fired Weinstein supposedly without giving a specific reason which could potentially violate the terms of the contract.
Oh my god.
That's crazy.
Here's the kicker.
Even if Weinstein had committed fraud by not fully informing the board of directors, the contract says before he can be fired, he has the right to mediation.
If that doesn't work, he's entitled to arbitration.
He got neither.
He was summarily fired, and sources connected with Weinstein tell TMZ he was never given a specific reason.
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, he's fighting it.
I love that.
jordan holmes
Where do you get the balls to fight back right now?
joe rogan
I guess he feels like...
It's the only way to sort of reclaim some ground.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, is that a way to look at it?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, that's that mentality.
And, you know, at that level, the power brokers that run Hollywood, you know, they're all fucking...
Trump is like that, too.
It's all aggression.
It's all come at you when you come at them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it's got to be a crazy position to be in.
To be the head of Miramax.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
I mean, it's like...
It's the biggest...
It's one of the biggest, right?
What's the biggest?
What is the biggest studio?
If it's not Miramax, it's Universal, Miramax.
So, at the very least, he's responsible for some of the most iconic movies ever.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Certainly the most Oscars of any studio in the last 20 years.
joe rogan
So everyone's kissing his ass, massive amounts of power, and this influence over people, like royalty, right?
Barks, they all come, you know, everybody's at his whim, constantly.
And then tries to fuck all these starlets.
Like, if he had just stuck with, like, prostitutes, Probably still would come out, but it wouldn't come out the same way.
greg fitzsimmons
It wouldn't have come out.
joe rogan
You don't think so?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, think about the fact that they covered up sexual assault on, it sounds like, a weekly basis.
I mean, this story broke, what, five days ago?
joe rogan
Something like that.
greg fitzsimmons
And there's already so many women that have come out, and now you've got a bounty on more women to come out?
I think that somebody else is offering a certain amount of money for every woman that comes out against him.
unidentified
Jesus.
greg fitzsimmons
So it's going to be like Cosby all over again.
And you think about...
joe rogan
But Cosby was drugging and raping women.
unidentified
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
No, but I just mean in terms of how frequently...
joe rogan
It's like another step more evil, though.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
I'm just talking about the frequency of it and the complicity of people that set up the meetings...
Covered up the lawsuits.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Gave the women work after the meetings.
You know, a lot of them got script deals, got roles in movies, because a lot of them didn't walk out of the room.
A lot of them gave them the back rub or whatever else.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, that was what Whitney was talking about the other day.
Whitney Cummings was telling me, her and one of her friends, who's an actress, I did their show at the Largo the other night, and they were in the green room and they were talking about how many women literally wrote into their contract, like, not wrote into it, but there was an agreement that they would fuck him to get, like, editors cut, they would fuck him to get more lines.
greg fitzsimmons
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Girls, like, prominent actresses had sex with him to ensure that they got big roles.
greg fitzsimmons
This was written down?
joe rogan
Some of it was agreed upon.
I don't know if they wrote it, but these things were agreed upon.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
And that he always kept his end of the bargain.
He was known for hooking them up.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
It was part of how he got this whole thing to work.
greg fitzsimmons
Which means every director and editor that kept those lines in knew, because editors all the time, you chop out whole scenes because they don't work.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's only...
That's like when did it happen?
Did it happen before the film was shot?
Like he would give them final cut?
Like he would allow them to be in the editing room?
Or was it like, I will give you the choice part?
Whatever it was, like some sneaky deal.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, who knows how he said it?
Who knows how they did it?
Yeah.
The idea that all these actors are coming out like, I have no idea.
I can't believe it.
I'm so horrified.
How do you not know that?
greg fitzsimmons
I'm a road comic and I knew about it.
I'm not in the middle of Hollywood.
I've known about it for 15 years.
joe rogan
What did you know?
greg fitzsimmons
I knew that he was a casting couch guy.
Everybody knew that he was this sleazy, fat...
I always would joke about how I think he makes himself less attractive because it's more of a power trip for him.
joe rogan
It's more fun.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, to have his fat gut resting on their forehead while he shoots a load in their mouth.
Alright, you got the part!
Next!
Doesn't blow.
greg fitzsimmons
Doesn't wash on purpose.
joe rogan
Yeah, has his balls just stink like locker rooms.
Yeah, it's a weird thing, man.
It's a weird thing that went on forever in this industry.
Not this industry.
The movie industry.
The music industry as well.
Sturgill Simpson was telling me some story about some guy who's a known pederast.
He's in a similar position in the music business.
And people know you can't have young boys around this guy.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
And that he's some big-time, powerful guy.
He told me the guy's name.
I literally can't tell you who the fuck it was.
But he was saying, like, man, there are people in the music business that are in this exact same situation.
Like, they fuck people to have them move on and move up and move forward.
Especially back when radio was a big deal, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Radio and record sales were inexorably connected.
You could not sell records unless you get on the radio.
The only band that managed to move through that was KISS. Kiss was rarely on the radio.
They were rarely on the radio.
But Kiss had such a loyal following, and they put together such an amazing show, a live show, that they were selling millions of albums and got almost no radio time.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, no kidding.
joe rogan
And then selling out arenas, almost no radio.
And they were mocked relentlessly by people who really loved rock.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, I never liked Kiss, but I respect what they've done.
joe rogan
I loved Kiss.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, when I was a kid.
I loved them.
greg fitzsimmons
How many songs, though, do they really have?
Tons.
joe rogan
Shitloads.
Depends on if you like that kind of music.
Look, I mean, if I compare it to Led Zeppelin, in terms of the style of music, the depth of the composition of the music and the lyrics, they don't have anything that's like a whole lot of love or anything like that.
I mean, there's certain songs that are just on another level.
They don't have any of those.
But they have fun songs. - They're a live band. - Yeah, they have great live shows.
The live shows are great.
And then some of their songs, like "Beth" is a good song.
They have a bunch of good songs that are uncharacteristic for what you would think of when you think about "Kiss".
But, you know, they had like this style of music.
It was like a fun party rock and roll.
unidentified
I want to rock and roll all night and party every day.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, I think that the couple songs I know of theirs I like, but when you think about the phenomenon that is KISS, they really don't have the songs to support it.
Like, I feel like the same way, I'm gonna get shit about saying this, Aerosmith.
unidentified
You son of a bitch.
greg fitzsimmons
Aerosmith has, like, three of the greatest rock songs of all time.
Like, literally, my top 50 rock songs.
joe rogan
Let me hear it.
greg fitzsimmons
Three of them are Aerosmith.
Walk This Way, Dream On.
unidentified
Dream On.
greg fitzsimmons
And, uh...
joe rogan
Mama Ken?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
jamie vernon
Sweetheart.
greg fitzsimmons
Sweet Emotions.
unidentified
Sweet Emotions.
greg fitzsimmons
Those three are in my top 50. And then it ends.
Then you got Love in the Elevator and all this shit that makes me go like, I gotta delete my files on these clowns.
joe rogan
Well, you know what happened to them?
Movies.
They started doing those movie anthems.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You should never do those movie anthems.
They did those Armageddon soundtrack type things.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where, you know, like...
Just middle of the road popcorn music for a stupid blockbuster film.
greg fitzsimmons
They started trying to figure out what the audience wanted and giving it to them instead of being themselves.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I mean, for whatever it is, it's like you have two different schools of thought in that band.
You have Joe Perry.
Who I know.
He's a great guy who doesn't give a fuck about fame.
Joe Perry's like a guy from Boston who's just a badass guitarist who loves making rock and roll.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, he's awesome.
joe rogan
And then you got...
What's his name?
greg fitzsimmons
Steven Tyler.
joe rogan
Steven Tyler, who likes being famous.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he likes doing like...
What is he on?
America's Got Talent or one of those?
Which one of those is he on?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I think he did American Idol for one season.
joe rogan
Was it just one season?
jamie vernon
I think so.
joe rogan
But that kind of shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Could you imagine Robert Plant doing American Idol?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, I could imagine Mick Jagger doing something like that and Keith Richards.
Keith Richards is like the...
What's that?
joe rogan
Just to bank checks.
greg fitzsimmons
Just to bank checks.
But I think Mick Jagger and Keith Richards have a similar kind of situation.
Mick wanted to be famous.
Keith is just a badass rocker.
joe rogan
Maybe.
I don't know.
Huh.
I mean, there's nothing wrong with wanting to be famous, because that's what you're into.
But when the music suffers, or the music changes, you know?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You go from sweet emotions to some, like, nonsensical moron ballad that literally, like, it hurts your feelings.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You listen to some of those ballads, and you're just like...
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Billy Joel's like that.
He's got some of the greatest fucking songs.
Remember the last time we shot Pool, we listened to a few Billy Joel songs?
And then you've got Uptown Girl.
joe rogan
I've got a Billy Joel theory I've talked about in this podcast.
greg fitzsimmons
And you just get so angry about it.
joe rogan
I know exactly what happened.
Christy Brinkley.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
joe rogan
Too hot.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ugly little guy from Long Island.
All of a sudden he's banging this supermodel.
That bitch is hot today.
She's like 80. Yeah, right.
She's hot as fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's like the hottest 64-year-old woman on the planet.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have you seen pictures of her?
greg fitzsimmons
I just played...
I bowled with her recently.
joe rogan
Shut up.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
joe rogan
No, you...
See, that's when they were together.
That's when he lost his marbles.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's when it was all uptown girl.
greg fitzsimmons
She was in the lane next to me.
She looks fucking beautiful.
joe rogan
So, where was this?
greg fitzsimmons
Venice.
joe rogan
She bowls in Venice?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy that she's in her 60s?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you would bang her, right?
greg fitzsimmons
I'd fuck him just because he fucked her.
joe rogan
You'd fuck him because he fucked her?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wouldn't go that far.
But do you think...
I would worry that she would break.
greg fitzsimmons
Because she's 64?
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd send it home and you'd hear a cracking on her hips.
Is that her?
In the water?
How's that possible?
How does she look so hot?
And so many women fall apart.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh no, I didn't see Chrissy Brinkley.
joe rogan
You didn't?
greg fitzsimmons
I saw Cindy Crawford.
unidentified
You son of a bitch.
joe rogan
You're just like Jamie.
Oh my god, look at her butt.
Oh, that's not her?
I was like, that's insane.
Oh, it is her daughter.
greg fitzsimmons
Whoa!
Lesbying it up?
joe rogan
No, they're hugging, son of a bitch.
greg fitzsimmons
In bikinis.
joe rogan
Yeah, where's her butt?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, come on, that's a little sexy.
joe rogan
So she hides her butt.
See, that's the thing.
I don't think you can have a nice 64-year-old ass, I think.
Yeah, every picture's like from the front.
greg fitzsimmons
And notice the bent leg to kind of hide any kind of...
joe rogan
Well, they all do that.
greg fitzsimmons
I don't know, she looks pretty good.
joe rogan
Hot as fuck, right?
But look, you don't see her butt.
Google Christy Brinkley's butt.
Listen, you're objectifying women.
No, I'm just trying to...
I'm doing an anatomical survey or something.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, that's a famous shot.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's like from the 80s.
greg fitzsimmons
That's her Sports Illustrated shot.
joe rogan
Christy Blinky's butt at 60. I have 2017 on it.
Well, either way, she's done a remarkable job of staying attractive.
greg fitzsimmons
Very proud of her.
joe rogan
And I guess what that is is just constant effort, right?
And maybe some surgery, but at the very least...
greg fitzsimmons
A lot of DNA involved, too.
joe rogan
Right, must be.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But constant effort, right?
Like constant gym time, watching the diet, you know?
All that stuff.
greg fitzsimmons
A lot of water.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
And also, they get all the best skincare products.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, that's the business, you know?
That's her business.
What's super shocking is when a woman was like, just smoking hot, and then she just lets it go.
Just lets it go, like Kathleen Turner.
You ever seen Kathleen Turner today?
unidentified
She could be Joey Diaz's stunt double.
greg fitzsimmons
Would you have sex with her just to say you had sex with Kathleen Turner, though?
joe rogan
What do you think?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
No, look at that picture.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
unidentified
Dude, she was fucking smoky at one point in time.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and she had that voice.
joe rogan
But I feel like there's a health issue.
Like, she's so big, it doesn't make sense.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, a lot of times, you know, they have to take a steroid for something, and they blow up from the steroid.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus, is that real?
Make that bigger.
unidentified
See, I think it's probably alcohol, too.
joe rogan
When you see someone that big, it's like, well, you have to eat a lot of food to stay that big.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Unless you're boozing it.
Like, I know this lady, she works out all the time, but she boozes all the time.
greg fitzsimmons
Maybe...
joe rogan
And she just can't...
Her legs are always, like, just thick and weird.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, booze will fuck you.
joe rogan
The fucking empty calories and booze.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
For people who drink, like, every day, those everyday drinkers, man, that's a fucking hard road.
greg fitzsimmons
And once you're drunk, you're not a real health nut about what you eat.
unidentified
No.
greg fitzsimmons
Pizza and fucking...
joe rogan
And then when you wake up in the morning, you feel like shit, so you just eat more shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Some people, I don't know, maybe Kathleen Turner, maybe she made so much money and her natural body is big and she just went, fuck it, I'm going to enjoy my life and not suffer like Kathleen, like Christy Brinkley.
joe rogan
That sounds like something a woman who got really big would say.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No one's natural body's overweight.
If you're doing that, it's because you're eating the wrong food, you're not exercising, you're definitely overeating, and you're most likely drinking.
That's not someone who's thick.
That's an obese woman.
Look at her.
Dude, she was hot as fuck.
She was hot.
Was that movie Body Heat with her?
Was that Jeff Bridges or William Hurt?
jamie vernon
Just from Romancing the Stone.
joe rogan
Oh, that was like a rip-off of Indiana Jones, right?
With Michael Douglas?
Yeah, that was like Michael Douglas was like the Indiana Jones character, but it was kind of like a semi-comedy.
Romancing the Stone.
Yeah, it was like he was the archaeologist.
God, it was hard to remember.
Boy, they made a lot of shitty movies back then.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, Romancing the Stone.
joe rogan
Trying to go back and watch those things, you'd be like, what?
greg fitzsimmons
I know, they were so dated.
You ever see Working Girl lately?
joe rogan
What's that?
greg fitzsimmons
It was Melanie Griffith, and she played a girl from Staten Island who is a secretary at a law firm, and she's a paralegal or something.
No, even an ad agency?
joe rogan
Look at her hair!
greg fitzsimmons
Yes.
unidentified
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
No, that's not her.
joe rogan
Melanie Griffith.
greg fitzsimmons
Is it?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Because you know who else has got the big hair in this movie is Joan Cusack.
Joan Cusack, yeah, there she is.
joe rogan
So they're supposed to be like girls from Long Island or something?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, and they're working at the fancy Manhattan office, but they're like the gum-chewing, cigarette-smoking.
joe rogan
That's real.
greg fitzsimmons
And then she bluffs her way up.
joe rogan
Oh!
greg fitzsimmons
It's a great fucking movie, but it's so...
The fashion and the hair is hysterical.
joe rogan
It's a corny weaver.
She was hot as fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Back in the alien days?
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
She was so hot.
It's a rough world, man.
Look at Harrison Ford, handsome bastard.
It's weird that we're watching these people age to the point of decay right in front of us, because that really wasn't a thing until about 50 years ago.
Like, if you really stop, you never got to see that.
You never got to see someone age in front of you like that.
Like, until, I mean, 50 years?
Maybe?
No.
Maybe a little bit more?
Maybe Let's get generous.
70, 80 years.
Like, this is a new cultural phenomenon.
To have visual evidence of decay that you go over with a fine-tooth comb.
And never like this, where I could say, hey, pull that shit up, Jamie.
Let's take a look at Kathleen Turner when she was young.
unidentified
Woo!
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah, I'm sure if you pulled up before or after pictures, they're already smashed together in some photos.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
greg fitzsimmons
And it's like, no, you look at like Betty Davis.
She got to a certain age and then she just went, okay, I'll be in my mansion.
Lock it up behind me.
I'll see you at my funeral.
They just crawled out of the way like a pigeon that got injured.
joe rogan
Or Elizabeth Taylor.
She just kept marrying new gay guys.
Some new, obviously, gay guy.
She's like, does she know?
Like, what the fuck's happening?
She was like 70. They were like 45-year-old gay guys.
Whoa, look at that.
1983 Smirnoff with Betty Davis, an ad.
Oh, Jim Beam.
Two of a kind of originals.
Why did I say?
Oh, Smirnoff vodka ad.
Wow.
Who was that?
The other one.
unidentified
Diane...
joe rogan
What is her name?
Where it says in the ad, right there.
83 Smirnoff Vodka ad, what's the woman's name?
Who's Diane Carroll?
What a weird way to spell Diane.
D-I-A-H-A-N-N. Maybe she's a photographer?
Maybe she's a lot of work.
She likes to change the spelling of her name to be crafty.
There's a lot of Diane's.
D-I-A-N-E. I'm not a lot of women.
I'm very different.
greg fitzsimmons
And you get mad when you correct people.
unidentified
It's D-I-H-A-N. Yeah, if you read it out.
joe rogan
D-I-A-N-E! My name is Diane!
Well, why don't you spell it, Diane?
Crazy bitch.
It's a phonetic language.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who?
jamie vernon
That's Diane Carroll.
joe rogan
Oh, there she is.
jamie vernon
Dynasty.
joe rogan
Oh, from Dynasty?
There's a new Dynasty, apparently.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, good!
joe rogan
There's an ad.
It's hilarious.
It's a billboard.
And in the billboard, there's this guy and a couple pretty women behind him.
And one of the pretty women has her tongue out like this, like...
Like showing you a little of her tongue.
That's something that, unless you're a rock star, men just don't do.
Like men never take a picture, try to look sexy and go like this.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Look at her tongue.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that fucking picture!
First of all, it's on the CW, which I don't even know if I have.
There's certain channels.
I didn't even know I don't have epics.
DirecTV doesn't have epics.
So I tried to watch someone special on epics, and I was like, oh, I don't even have that fucking thing.
See, that one bitch is pulling the other bitch's hair.
greg fitzsimmons
With her tongue out.
joe rogan
She's got her tongue out.
unidentified
Like, yeah.
joe rogan
Even when I'm violent, I stick my tongue out to lick the tip of dicks.
Like, what is that?
Like, who told her to stick her tongue out like that?
Yeah, baby.
Perfect.
unidentified
Perfect.
joe rogan
I like it.
What if they didn't?
What if they photoshopped her tongue out there and she got the photos?
She's like, what the fuck is this stupid shit?
Why do I have my tongue out?
Well, the editor made a choice.
An artistic choice.
greg fitzsimmons
This is the new, like, kiss face.
The selfie face.
joe rogan
What was the one that you just pulled up?
That gay picture you just pulled up?
jamie vernon
Fighting or something?
joe rogan
Oh, there's a bunch of guys.
Other guys are fighting.
That black guy's gonna kick that white guy's ass while we're pretending he's not.
You know?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, he's eyeballing him.
joe rogan
That black guy's gonna fuck that white guy up.
I can tell by looking at their faces.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
That's true.
Do you find that with MMA? You can tell from the weigh-ins and all that?
joe rogan
Nope.
greg fitzsimmons
Who's got an edge?
joe rogan
You definitely can't.
You think you can, you're often wrong.
Yeah, you can't.
You can't tell.
There's a lot of guys that look like doughboys, but they can fight.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
They just know how to fight, and it's also they know how to endure.
Sometimes guys, when they don't look physically impressive, have had to deal with so many people fucking with them their whole life that they develop this sort of, like...
Werewolf personality, like where they can just go, oh, yeah, motherfucker, and then they just keep coming.
They keep coming at you, and they just never get discouraged.
And those guys, like, a lot of times guys are not physically gifted.
They have incredible work ethic, because they have to, because that's the only way they can compete.
And so they, like, they'll slowly break guys down just with toughness.
The problem with those guys is...
They take an extreme beating and it's not sustainable.
And then one day they run into a guy who has both.
See, there's discipline and there's talent.
And a lot of times, talented people don't have discipline.
And you know you just wish they did because then they'd be the greatest ever.
Well the greatest ever are the guys with talent and discipline.
Like Anderson Silva or someone like that.
Like talented but also like physically superior.
Just moves faster and then also works incredibly hard.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
And then also can perform under pressure and knows how to come back from behind.
Like knows how to turn around when he's getting his ass kicked.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, that's the third aspect.
You have to have the psychological...
joe rogan
You have to be able to take it.
You have to be able to be the hammer or the nail.
You've got to be able to be the nail.
A lot of guys can't be the nail.
They start getting hit on.
They're like, fuck this, I've got to get out of here.
And some guys are great and they're like that.
So there's some great fighters that just can't take a beating.
It's very strange.
Fighting is the weirdest of all...
Like sports.
Because it's not really a sport.
It kind of is.
It's an athletic endeavor.
But it's so much more emotional and tense than just a regular sport, like calling it a sport.
There's so much more to it.
greg fitzsimmons
It's more personal.
joe rogan
You taking off to the bathroom, Jamie?
Can't handle it.
Jamie can't handle it.
Now we don't get to see him sneak around behind you anymore.
We have a new setup.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, you should have a camera in the bathroom.
joe rogan
You can get sued for that.
You get in trouble.
greg fitzsimmons
You ever hear about Chuck Berry?
joe rogan
Yes, that's what I was going to say.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, that came out, that was another thing.
I knew, I had heard rumors, and again, am I in the fucking music industry?
I had heard rumors that Chuck Berry had hours and hours of footage of women pissing and shitting, and that he had cameras hidden in the toilet seats of his restaurant in Illinois.
I knew this shit for years, and then all of a sudden it came out in the news, And there was a class action lawsuit that I believe he lost.
I should say all of this with supposedly.
unidentified
Allegedly.
greg fitzsimmons
So I don't get sued.
joe rogan
Allegedly.
Well, he's dead.
You can get away with that.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, is he dead?
unidentified
Yeah, fuck it.
greg fitzsimmons
But I mean, it's amazing that this shit is out there.
Bill Cosby.
I knew that Bill Cosby was molesting women.
So did you.
joe rogan
Yes.
I knew it because when I was on the set of news radio, people knew him from whatever thing, and that was always the thing, that Bill Cosby drugs women.
And I'd heard it like, what?
He does?
It was always some weird thing.
I never met him, but I don't even think I knew someone who had been around him.
I think it was just like one of those things where people just knew.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You just knew that Michael Jackson was probably diddling kids.
greg fitzsimmons
We knew it because we knew...
joe rogan
Well, that's the thing that's coming out.
Who did we know?
Did we know somebody?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who did we know?
greg fitzsimmons
We knew somebody who sent a boy to the ranch.
joe rogan
What?
Who's we?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't want to say on the air who it is.
Somebody in the industry.
joe rogan
But when you say we knew, like who's we?
greg fitzsimmons
You and I. Me?
Yeah.
joe rogan
I did not know someone who sent a boy to the ranch.
Unless I didn't know that they sent a boy to the ranch.
greg fitzsimmons
Maybe you didn't know.
You didn't know.
I'll tell you off the air.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
What about all these people that are listening in suspense right now?
unidentified
I know.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
I shouldn't have brought it up.
joe rogan
Yeah, you shouldn't have.
Son of a bitch.
Now you make me think.
All these people out there don't know.
They're all hanging!
They're all hanging on a thread, like, who was it?
Yeah.
Well, I think it's one of the reasons why we like really good stuff, too, right?
Because we can't imagine being able to do that.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Like, when you see someone who's, like, playing, like, you see, like, Gary Clark Jr. or something playing guitar on stage, mesmerizing.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Goddamn, that guy's good!
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, holy shit!
You know, there's something about watching someone who's mesmerizing that's equally captivating as watching someone who's awful Yeah, look at, um, what's his name from Queen?
Freddie Mercury?
greg fitzsimmons
Freddie Mercury.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
I mean, that guy fucking went for it.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
He went for it back in the day when no one even knew he was gay, right?
They didn't understand, like, what a gay frontman was.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Like, now, you could be a gay frontman now.
Like, Elton John is openly gay.
Everyone knows it.
And he goes out there and sings, and everybody goes nuts and...
Back then, you couldn't.
greg fitzsimmons
Back then, Wembley Stadium with a mustache sticking out and a leather vest.
joe rogan
We are the champions.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
But you gotta think, he must have gone that big.
When they were playing bars and saloons on their way up, he must have been going big then.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Where it probably looked ridiculous, but certain people got it.
joe rogan
Well, he's so good that even when he was doing those bars, people must have heard that voice and went, holy shit, listen to this guy.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Because he could carry a fucking note.
Look at that picture of him there.
jamie vernon
That's not even him.
That's from the movie that they're making about him.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, really?
joe rogan
That's not him?
jamie vernon
No.
joe rogan
Wow, that guy looks amazingly like him.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, I think what's his name is doing it.
jamie vernon
Rami Malek is the actor's name.
joe rogan
Who's Brian J. Singer?
That guy.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
He's verified.
greg fitzsimmons
I think Sacha Baron Cohen wanted that role.
joe rogan
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
He probably would have nailed it.
greg fitzsimmons
Yep.
joe rogan
I wonder why they didn't give it to him.
greg fitzsimmons
I mean, it's almost like...
joe rogan
Ricky Boobie.
greg fitzsimmons
Did you see that?
What was it, Live Aid, where they were simulcasting from London and Philadelphia at the same time?
joe rogan
Scroll up, scroll up there.
greg fitzsimmons
And he fucking stole the show.
joe rogan
That's him, for real.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Live Aid, where Sacha Baron Cohen stole the show?
greg fitzsimmons
No, where Freddie Mercury did.
joe rogan
No.
greg fitzsimmons
It was back in...
84-ish.
joe rogan
When did he die?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't know.
joe rogan
He was like one of the first big names to die of AIDS. Yeah.
Well, you heard about it and you went, what?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Fucked up, man.
Ninety-one.
Ninety-one?
unidentified
Ninety-one.
joe rogan
Ninety-one?
Nobody dies of AIDS now.
It's very rare.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't say nobody, but it's saying like nobody dies of syphilis.
You still can, but...
Did you hear that California just recently reduced the penalty of not telling someone that you have HIV? Oh, did they?
Yeah, like wantonly infecting someone with HIV is no longer a felony.
greg fitzsimmons
Why?
joe rogan
The guy who introduced it, the senator, there's a fucking picture of him.
New California law reduces penalty for knowingly exposing someone to HIV. Why the fuck would you do that?
HIV is a public health issue, not a criminal issue.
California State Senator Scott Weiner said in support of the bill, which takes...
Now, Google that guy and find a picture of him with his shirt off, with a leather vest on, a six-pack, and a dog collar around his neck.
And I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding.
Like, there's a fucking image of him.
That's him, but he's jacked.
But there's a photo.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at this.
Sorry, not a dog collar.
He's got a leather tie wrapped around his neck.
Might as well be a dog collar.
But look at this.
This is the guy.
I mean, if he's not gay, he's certainly sympathetic to the cause.
And this is the guy that's supporting this bill saying that HIV is a health issue.
No, it's not a health issue if you fucking knowingly give it to somebody.
If you knowingly shoot a hot load into someone knowing you have HIV. You get back from the doctor.
The doctor says, Greg, I've got some bad news for you.
You got the hiv.
And you're like, well, I got some bad news forever.
I'm shooting loads, too, because I'm not going to tell them.
I like shooting loads into people.
I don't like condoms.
Like, you're doing a criminal act.
greg fitzsimmons
It's a deadly weapon.
Your semen is a deadly weapon.
joe rogan
Not today if you get treatment.
But what if someone doesn't like doctors?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
What if they're afraid of doctors?
There's a lot of people that are afraid.
They're afraid of going to the doctor.
So if they don't go to the doctor, HIV turns into AIDS, they die of AIDS. You fucking gave it to them, man.
How is that not a felony?
And who would want to reduce that crime?
Who would want to reduce the crime of knowingly exposing someone to a death-dealing disease?
A disease that's killed untold hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people worldwide, right?
I mean, I don't know the numbers, but it's probably millions.
Right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why would you do that?
Like, who's clamoring for that to be reduced?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, think about how many guys are, what do they call it, on the down low, where they go out and they have sex with men, get sick, and then have sex with their wives.
unidentified
A lot of wives get AIDS. Or HIV, right?
greg fitzsimmons
You get HIV. Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's...
That's one of those diseases where they essentially found a cure for it, right?
They have a treatment, and that treatment reduces it to the point where it's not even—you can't even detect it in the blood anymore.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, it's that good?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
It's undetectable.
Like, Magic Johnson said that Jesus did it for him.
unidentified
Jesus made my HIV go away.
joe rogan
No longer detectable.
greg fitzsimmons
That is so cool.
joe rogan
It's a bad magic Johnson accent.
It's a horrible impression.
But yeah, they literally have gotten to the point where it's undetectable.
What does it say?
Number of deaths due to HIV-AIDS estimates by country.
There was a million last year, but it has no data for the United States, the United Kingdom, or the UAE. And this is how it's been explained to me, so I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
The problem with this distinction, and this is one of the real problems with the way they used it to describe Africa.
They were saying all these people in Africa get AIDS and die.
Well, this doctor was telling me, and he's completely off the record when he was telling me this because he's a progressive, very smart, liberal guy.
He's like, okay.
He goes...
What you're talking about is people with extremely compromised immune systems that's from a variety of different reasons.
He goes, they're not getting HIV tests.
He goes, these people in these really poor areas in Africa, this is, you know, we're talking like early 2000s.
He's like, they're not giving these people HIV tests.
They're not flying to Africa and administering these expensive tests on these people.
He's like, these people have extremely compromised immune systems.
They check their T cell count.
Their T cell count's very low.
They're very unhealthy.
And so they say they have AIDS.
And that's how you get funding.
The way you get funding is you say there's a million cases of AIDS in Africa.
You don't get funding when you say there's a million cases of people who are malnourished, who have a host of horrific diseases.
Unacceptable that we're trending to 50% of African American gay bi men having HIV must end this health disparity.
Why are you pulling that?
Oh, that's Wiener?
That's the guy?
His name's Wiener, which is hilarious.
greg fitzsimmons
Another Wiener.
joe rogan
Another Wiener.
But unacceptable that we're trending to 50% of African American gay bi men having HIV. Meanwhile, he says, must end this health disparity, and the best way to end it is to reduce the penalty from knowingly giving it to people.
That's just...
I don't want to say that he has it, and he just wants to make it a little easier on himself, but why would you do that?
Why would you want to reduce that?
Owen Benjamin had a great tweet about it.
Yeah, something about allowing Charlie Sheen to...
California is allowing Charlie Sheen to have less of a penalty for having unprotected sex with unsuspecting young women, you fucking psychos, or something like that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Well, you know, the question is, can you legislate behavior?
joe rogan
Right.
Can you?
greg fitzsimmons
It's tricky.
joe rogan
Good question.
Do you want to, right?
Do you want to legislate behavior?
Or do you want people to just be...
But you have to punish people for...
If you have some sort of an incurable disease, AIDS obviously is curable, or HIV is, right?
At least at this point, it's treatable.
It shouldn't be curable.
But if you have something like what would be...
Okay, here's a perfect example.
Remember when that woman came back from Africa and they suspected that she had been exposed to Ebola and people were freaking the fuck out because she was wandering around?
She's like, I'm not going to be quarantined.
Fuck off.
And they're like, this bitch is a monster, right?
That's much more communicable than HIV is, I guess, but not much difference in terms of what it can do.
I mean, you're talking about something that kills people, right?
It's kind of the same thing in a lot of ways, but we tend to look past things that are sexually transmitted, because like, well, don't get fucked, you don't have any problems, you know?
Don't do anything that Jesus wouldn't want you to do, and you don't have any issues.
What are you, take it in the ass, you fucking piece of shit?
You horrible person, you know?
greg fitzsimmons
No, it's like now where they're allowing companies to not have to cover women's birth control.
And it's like they want to shame people from having sex.
It's the same thing with, you know, not paying for abortions.
joe rogan
Do you really think that's what it is?
greg fitzsimmons
I think orgasms are free, and the haves fucking drives me crazy.
joe rogan
I don't think that's what it is.
I think it's a financial issue.
I think if you look behind it, I bet there's probably insurance companies that are involved in this.
There's probably a lot of people that...
Look, if you have to pay, or companies...
Like, if a company has to pay for your employees' birth control pills...
And you have 100,000 employees.
How many birth control pills are you paying for?
That's a lot of money.
I mean, and you go across the board.
And also you set a precedent.
If you have to pay for that, maybe you have to pay for something that comes along similar for men or some other issue that women might have that has to be covered.
I think it's all financial.
greg fitzsimmons
Wouldn't it be expensive, though, to have women missing work for pregnancies?
joe rogan
Fire them.
unidentified
Fuck them.
joe rogan
It's kind of a weird thing, right?
It's because if somebody works for you, they don't just work for you, right?
We are assuming that person is dependent upon you.
It's one of the weirder things about employment.
It's like that's not just someone who works for you.
You have to take care of that person.
You're supposed to provide them with insurance.
You're supposed to provide them with benefits.
You're supposed to allow them to take time off.
It's a weird thing because we've settled into the idea that this person is completely dependent upon their employer.
I think this idea that if a woman has a child...
That you have to give her maternity leave, or you have to pay her while she has the baby, and that you have to maybe pay child support or some sort of childcare while she has the baby.
The people really want that.
They want that as part of it.
Because people, the way people live, in this country in particular, and we just assume that you have to live this way, Because we compare ourselves to people that live in like indigenous tribes or in third-world countries where they don't have Constant employment and they don't have high overhead right rent bills all the different things that we have But we have like this system set up where once you're in the system Once you start making that money you need that money and when your kid comes you can't just quit work No
one does that anymore.
We don't think anyone should do that anymore.
We assume that woman is eventually going to go back to work.
So she's going to get a maternity leave because the company values her as an employee.
And then once she's done with her maternity leave, maybe there'll be some other sort of compensation or some sort of...
And she definitely won't be working any long hours or overtime anymore.
Now she's got to get home and take care of her kid.
That's the hidden thing in the whole argument against...
The financial, the difference in the amount of money, like income disparity between men and women, the big one, one of the big ones, is the number of hours that women are willing to work.
There's a series of choices, right?
There's the jobs they gravitate towards, there's the number of hours that they're willing to work, There's taking time off when they have children.
And another one of the big ones is this is one that works sort of against them that doesn't get discussed when men are trying to say that the income inequality thing is all bullshit.
Women are not as good at negotiating for a better salary.
They're not as aggressive in negotiating for a better salary.
And even if they do just as good a job as the man.
That's the one area where they sort of seem to fall behind, where it's like a rational distinction that a woman is doing the same job as a man and not getting paid as well.
Because when you look at the income inequality between men and women, you know, it's like 77 cents on the dollar.
It's really not real.
It's not like they're working the same job next to each other.
greg fitzsimmons
You were telling me it's because men will work more dangerous jobs and tend to pay more.
joe rogan
Yeah, more dangerous jobs tend to pay more.
Men are much more likely to die on the job.
It's much more likely to get injured on the job.
There's a bunch of fields that men gravitate towards that are particularly just interesting and attractive to men that women don't gravitate towards.
And if they do, it's in lower numbers.
And obviously, these are gross generalizations because there's women who are MMA fighters, right?
A lot of them.
I mean, I see them all the time.
Not a lot of them, but a few.
You can't just pigeonhole people.
There's a lot of men that are florists, right?
It's very difficult to just say, a man is this and a woman is that.
greg fitzsimmons
But there's trends, obviously.
joe rogan
There's for sure trends.
And to deny those trends seems to be the state of discourse today.
People like to deny those trends, and any accepting of those trends is some sort of accepting of this Systematic oppression of women or systematic oppression of gay people.
It's very weird in this room.
greg fitzsimmons
That woman wrote that book, Lean In.
I think it was a lot about that.
Negotiate.
It shouldn't be mandated.
You should be able to go in and fight for your salary.
Get a better salary.
Fight for the corner office.
And don't wait for it to be handed to you because the patriarchal system is not going to suddenly just make things fair.
joe rogan
But is the patriarchal system real?
Is there a patriarchal system?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, look at Harvey Weinstein.
joe rogan
Okay, that's a different thing.
Because that's a power issue, right?
And when you have absolute power, like that guy had, and you're also a fat, ugly fuck, and you realize this is a way to get Gwyneth Paltrow to suck my dick.
That's a unique situation.
greg fitzsimmons
But I think the dynamic of it is that since men do obviously quantifiably have more power positions on the boards of companies and management and partners, that women are intimidated by that.
They're intimidated to go up against it.
joe rogan
I think there's also a thing where women don't want to be a bitch, right?
Yeah.
Like men don't view a woman who's aggressive the same way they view a man as aggressive.
Like if you and I work in an office and you're like always hustling and getting ahead and always like fighting for what's yours, like Greg's an aggressive motherfucker.
He gets shit done.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But if a woman is doing the exact same thing, that fucking bitch, I don't want to be around her.
She's such a bitch.
A woman who exhibits the same sort of aggressive tendencies, it's negative.
Whereas a guy is an ass-kicker.
greg fitzsimmons
Right, right.
Do you remember, who was the comic up in Boston who had that...
Every comic had one great joke, and this guy's joke was, behind every successful man there's a woman, and behind every successful woman are two guys calling her a lesbian.
unidentified
Fuck, who was that?
greg fitzsimmons
Remember that guy?
He had wire room glasses.
He was a little bit chubby.
joe rogan
Goddamn.
greg fitzsimmons
Do you remember that joke, though?
joe rogan
I do remember it now that you said it.
I'm just trying to remember who the fuck...
greg fitzsimmons
Not Charlie.
joe rogan
Goddamn, who was that?
greg fitzsimmons
I want to give him a shout-out if he's still doing it.
I always wonder about if guys like that are still doing it.
joe rogan
I wonder if they do do it.
Like, they just do it every now and then.
They have a job.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
Like, if you have a regular job and you, like, go out on the weekends, do a Dick Daugherty gig here and there.
greg fitzsimmons
Pick up $300 over the weekend.
unidentified
Sure.
greg fitzsimmons
Fuck it.
joe rogan
And fun.
Have a good time, too.
greg fitzsimmons
Have a good time.
Get some free drinks.
Maybe if you're single, maybe you meet a woman.
I mean, what better way to meet women than getting on stage for, you know, if these guys are doing 20 minutes or a half hour and they get off stage and mingle?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Better than fucking what?
Going to a Beefsteak Charlie's?
Standing at the bar?
Looking at a rusted trombone on the wall?
joe rogan
Going to $1.99, ordering some wings and a beer and looking around.
greg fitzsimmons
Creeping people out.
Hey, where are you from?
What?
joe rogan
And for a man to try to stand out, it's such a grind for a guy to stand out.
That's why a guy's peacock, right?
He's wearing big watches and rings and driving a fancy car, just trying to...
Trying to peacock!
Trying to get everybody to look at you.
greg fitzsimmons
Because we're gross.
joe rogan
Oh, we're gross.
greg fitzsimmons
We're gross.
Women are beautiful.
You don't see statues of men.
You do.
joe rogan
Greek statues.
But they're men that don't look like us.
Yeah, a little different.
And maybe a little of that.
greg fitzsimmons
Maybe a little of that.
joe rogan
Somebody had a great joke the other day.
He was like, the difference between the Greeks and Italians.
The Greeks invented making love.
the Italians did it to women.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, I was thinking when we were both in...
joe rogan
Some Italian guy, of course, told me that joke.
greg fitzsimmons
We were both in Italy last summer, and it's like, looking at those statues of the men, and they're like, they're fucking beautiful!
Like, their abs are just perfect, and then they have dicks!
And it's so weird, because if you had a statue that's that realistic in, like, the grove...
unidentified
Right.
greg fitzsimmons
Some Christian would cloak it and they'd cart it off because it was too graphic.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
And you've got to think, like, when you're the sculptor and you're putting that much effort where the dick has, like, a slightly bent shaft and you can see the crown and there's almost like a slit at the tip of the...
It's like, after a couple days, you've got to look at the sculptor like, okay, we think he got it.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a puddle of drool under him while he's carving out this cock.
greg fitzsimmons
He's got his hand on the balls while he's working on the shaft.
joe rogan
Well, here's what's interesting.
There's two different things that are interesting about dicks in those ancient Roman times.
One thing is that the original, the early days, they used to have just the cock hanging out, right?
Then, there came a period of time where they started, because of some religious influence, they started covering them with leaves.
And that was like after the fact.
And they actually added leaves to some statues.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, so there's dick under there.
joe rogan
Yeah, some of them.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow!
joe rogan
And then they start...
They started doing some statues where they put the leaf over the dick as they were constructing it.
But they did retrofit some statues for dicks.
But here, go back to that again real quick.
These pictures of the dicks.
greg fitzsimmons
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
Now here's what's interesting about these dicks.
You look at these guys and these big, athletic-looking wrestler characters, they all have little dicks.
And one of the reasons why they had little dicks is because in this time of, I mean, This is my interpretation of it, right?
And this is what...
I had a really good professor that took us on a tour in Rome of the Vatican.
We got super lucky.
We hired a professor.
And he was fantastic.
And he loved that I knew a lot about ancient history, particularly their use of drugs.
So we were talking about the giant pine cone that's in the middle of the Vatican.
They have this outdoor area with a big pine cone.
And he goes, do you know what that represents?
I go, that's the pineal gland.
And he goes, how do you know?
And then we started talking and we started talking about drugs and endogenous production of dimethyltryptamine and shit like that.
greg fitzsimmons
No shit!
joe rogan
And then he and I, we fucking ignored my family.
We were holding hands and wandering through the Vatican together.
But as this guy was explaining that, I go, why are their dicks all so little?
And he goes, that's a very good question.
And he said that a large dick was thought to be a gross, primitive thing.
Like to have a large dick, you were like a non-evolved thing.
greg fitzsimmons
No kidding.
joe rogan
When you think about how close these people were to cave people, right?
Like you're thinking about a thousand, two thousand years ago, right?
Go back two thousand years before that and what the fuck do you have?
You know, I mean you have ancient Egypt and a few, but you have essentially like small villages, 2,000 years before that, you don't have the wheel, okay?
So you're talking about the wheel, I believe, goes back somewhere around 5,500 years ago.
It's the first evidence of the wheel.
That is super recent, right?
So these people were essentially realizing that there's a better way.
Like now we have Rome, we have sophistication, we have art, we have culture, we have music and wine, and we're not going to go back to those big dick ways, right?
Smashing heads and just fucking wild animals.
And I think when they thought of the barbarian hordes that would come and just fucking rape and pillage, they probably thought those big, fat, juicy dicks were one of the reasons why they were so horrible and so base and vile and primitive.
They had these big hogs and smashing skulls and raping and killing.
They were trying to move past that.
And one way that they tried to express that was in their art.
This sophisticated, incredibly anatomically correct art.
And they all had these little tiny baby dicks.
And these baby dicks were supposed to represent culture and sophistication.
Sort of like how a fat woman was supposed to represent a woman who ate a lot.
It was a woman of culture, so they were attractive.
Look at that guy.
He's built like Brock Lesnar, and he's got a dick like Pee Wee Herman.
Like, look at that.
I don't know if Pee Wee Herman is a little dick.
greg fitzsimmons
I always thought it was because over time the dick must have just gotten knocked off and that's why they were so small.
joe rogan
No, no.
They purposely represented these gigantic muscular men as having tiny penises which showed sophistication.
So they were almost in this like transitionary position.
The period of, like, the muscles were big, the body was obviously, like, very primal, you know?
They were obviously, like, very fit, but they had these little tiny cocks in what they admired.
greg fitzsimmons
If that holds, I wonder if that translates to the myth that the African-American man has a big penis goes to that.
joe rogan
First of all, it ain't a myth, pal.
I got news for you.
greg fitzsimmons
What do you watch them in?
Porn movies?
joe rogan
Blacked.com.
It's a website.
unidentified
It's a website.
joe rogan
It's called Blacked.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a couple porn stars that I've followed on Twitter, and they'll just post.
That's the weird thing about Twitter.
Sometimes I'll forget that I follow porn stars, and I'm going through my Twitter feed, and I'm like, oh, there's a dick and an ass.
Just out of nowhere.
There's a girl taking a hot one in the face.
Twitter, this is one of the things that I actually love about Twitter.
Twitter, in a lot of ways, is still wild.
I think they're trying to get a hold of it.
I'm trying to get Jack from Twitter, the head guy on the podcast.
We've been going back and forth.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh yeah?
joe rogan
He's expressed some interest about it, but a little trepidation.
He's a little worried about how to—because they're trying to censor people, but the people they're trying to censor are the people that are actively harassing people, the people that are using unwanted sexual advances and sending unwanted naked photos and things along those lines to people, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Upending elections.
joe rogan
That's a little different.
Here's something I thought was fascinating.
I retweeted it and accidentally un-retweeted it and then I couldn't find it.
I should never do things on my computer when it's like late at night and I'm barely paying attention, but someone posted something that this person that was claiming they were from Rhode Island They posted the tweeting about Hillary Clinton.
It was like in response to something that Donald Trump had done recently that was fucked up.
And about Hillary and our deleted emails.
And they left their location on.
And it was Russia.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh no, there's tons of that.
joe rogan
There's tons of that.
Like a lot of these unknown accounts.
It was like Kevin underscore 2012 or something like that.
But a lot of these accounts...
Where these people are attacking Hillary Clinton and supporting Trump and these right-wing talking points.
We literally have to understand.
This isn't just a trope.
This isn't just some weird talking point the Democrats keep using.
There are thousands and thousands of fake internet accounts that are designed to attack people that are supporting someone who's in opposition of their interests and to support someone who is on their side.
And these people, these online, whether they're real people or whether they're bots, They're all pro-Trump, all of them.
greg fitzsimmons
They're all pro-Trump and a lot of them are like stoking the racial tension because that helped Trump get elected.
joe rogan
Of course, of course.
And it's just fascinating that people are denying this, that a lot of people on the right are denying this and saying, oh, the Democrats are just whining and you lost, get over it.
I've seen a lot of that, you lost, get over it.
You've got to understand what's happening here.
You're not necessarily dealing with real discourse.
It's not really the right and the left communicating, stating each other's points, debating.
No.
There's a bunch of people that don't have a fuck...
They're not even here.
And they're pretending that they're here.
And they're talking shit about the left, and they're talking shit about...
Anthony Weiner or Hillary Clinton, they're not even necessarily real people.
They might be, but they might just have scripts that they send out from hundreds of different accounts.
They might be looking for keywords.
There's a weird information war going on right now and an influence war going on right now.
And there's a lot of people that don't want to admit it's real.
It's fucking 100% real.
greg fitzsimmons
It's 100% real.
I mean, Facebook has already gotten rid of thousands of accounts because they found that they were Russian accounts.
And the ads that were being taken out on Facebook, they tracked the money.
They were ads that were bought by Russian, I don't know if it was the government or just the oligarchs, but they were purchasing ads on Facebook.
joe rogan
What is this?
The best Twitter tool?
jamie vernon
This is one you can buy.
I just Googled real quick.
joe rogan
Tell me what this is.
jamie vernon
It's all the stuff you can buy.
It's called tweetattackspro.com.
joe rogan
It's designed to run thousands of Twitter accounts at the same time, 24-7, to auto-follow, unfollow, follow back, tweet, retweet, reply, favorite, delete, tweet, un-retweet, unfavorite, so they just do everything.
Every account can have its own setting, thus preventing Twitter from becoming suspicious about the account, plus the software can simulate human operation perfectly.
Exclamation point.
$7?
So you buy this for $7 and you just go on a goddamn Greg Fitzsimmons promoting rampage.
greg fitzsimmons
And notice at the bottom the syntax.
Designed for everyone's need.
That's not an American writing that.
joe rogan
No.
Not limited by the Twitter API because we don't use it!
We should do an experiment.
We should buy that and see how much we can jack up your Twitter account.
greg fitzsimmons
I love it.
joe rogan
What's your Twitter account at right now?
greg fitzsimmons
I don't know.
joe rogan
What's Gray Fitzsimmons, Fitzdog Radio on Twitter?
greg fitzsimmons
80-something thousand.
Not a lot.
jamie vernon
It's just under 85,000.
joe rogan
85,000.
I wonder if we could get you up to like a quarter million in like a couple of months.
jamie vernon
We could get up to a million probably by the end of the week.
greg fitzsimmons
Seriously?
joe rogan
A million.
A million by the end of the week.
jamie vernon
That might get noticed, but they kind of spread it out a little bit.
unidentified
Keep it down.
Keep it down.
joe rogan
I think that's, as long as we're really open about what we're doing, I think that would be really a fascinating experiment.
How do you do it?
Well, we use these things, and then we buy you a bunch of fake accounts.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, not fake accounts, fake followers.
We just use it.
You can get fake followers, right?
How does that work?
Like, I checked the other day how many of my followers were fake.
I swear to God, it was the exact same feeling I had when I took an HIV test in 93. I was like, ooh, here we go.
I kind of enjoy looking at the number of followers I have.
They were all Russian bots.
No, mine was almost all real, but the number that the president has is like 50%.
Like 50% fake accounts.
I wonder if he did that.
I wonder if he hired or if they just follow him because he's the president and it's a good thing to have like a fake account following the president, especially these Russian troll accounts.
jamie vernon
I think this came up, I feel like, the first time when John Kerry was running against Obama and they found out, they did like a Twitter audit on his account and found out he had a recent influx of like a million followers on his account.
And it seemed like, well, did he do it or did someone just do it to him?
Really?
joe rogan
Well, I think people, if I was running a campaign and I was already a sleazy piece of shit running a presidential campaign or some sort of political campaign, you got to think they're going to use every tool at their disposal, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Of course.
joe rogan
That's what they do, right?
When they muckrake and they fucking go after people and pull out some shit from their past.
greg fitzsimmons
Make up some shit about their past.
joe rogan
And use every influence they have.
Look, I think it's a good thing that we found out that Donald Trump is the kind of guy that wants to talk about, hey, just grab him by the pussy.
It's good that we know, oh, this is how he really talks and behaves.
But make no mistake about it, that came about through Dirty Pool.
They went and searched and did their best and know people that work at Access Hollywood or wherever, and they tried to find out, you know, what do we got?
unidentified
What do we got on it?
joe rogan
We gotta get something.
What can I give you?
You give me this?
Listen, I got a recorder, and he's talking about grabbing pussies.
Ooh, Bobby, if you can get me that, I will get something for you.
I mean, this is all how these people do this.
If you don't think that they would get fake accounts, you're crazy.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, shit, yeah.
No, I know a lot of comedians that have done that.
That have built up to...
Because club owners look at that shit.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
greg fitzsimmons
Before they book you and come up with how much they're going to pay you, they quantify you.
joe rogan
Yeah, like, what do you think...
What do you think we'd have to do to get Greg up to a million?
What do you have to do?
jamie vernon
Let me see what this says.
joe rogan
You've got to talk into the microphone.
I listened to the podcast recently, and sometimes you...
jamie vernon
I have it off, because I have the mic off sometimes.
joe rogan
I know.
No, I understand.
jamie vernon
It makes extra sounds over here.
Let me see what this says.
joe rogan
But I was listening to it, and I couldn't understand a word you were saying.
jamie vernon
I will get up on the mic.
joe rogan
Get up on that bitch.
jamie vernon
I'll try to eat it.
greg fitzsimmons
At least Syed eats that shit.
jamie vernon
I don't know exactly on this particular one.
This one wants you to pay a fee per month.
There's other ones you can pay, like a one-time fee, and whatever you're asking to happen will just happen over a couple days.
It doesn't happen instantly, but I've seen a couple YouTube videos doing what you're describing.
They did it to an employee of theirs without telling them, like...
Watch your Instagram account.
Anything interesting happen today?
I got 2,000 new likes today.
I usually only get 20. And he sort of felt like popular or whatever.
joe rogan
He didn't know what was going on.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he was preening.
joe rogan
Got excited.
Yeah.
Yeah, I wonder what we get you up to.
jamie vernon
Give me a budget and I can figure it out.
greg fitzsimmons
That'd be cool.
joe rogan
We'll give you a budget.
Okay, what do you think?
How much do we need to spend?
100 bucks?
500 bucks?
jamie vernon
500 bucks could do a lot.
joe rogan
I know a girl who did that and she went from like 30,000 followers to a million on Instagram.
jamie vernon
Do you want to also bump up your Spotify numbers or your YouTube numbers or anything like that?
Because you can do that as well.
unidentified
Whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
Maybe Instagram?
joe rogan
The girl who did it on Instagram, the way they found out, it was not in our business, it's in another business, but the way they found out that she was doing it was because the amount of likes that she got was the same.
The amount of likes her images got, the amount of comments, it remained the same.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, it didn't go up as the numbers went up.
joe rogan
It wasn't proportional, right?
Like, if you see a, like a, if you put something up on, like, okay, let's, for instance, that picture that we put of you when we first started this podcast, all right?
We did that.
You know, a couple of hours ago, right?
And we'll go to it right now, and it has 17,913 likes and 257 comments.
That means that's normal.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
It's like a photo of a funny comedian, first episode on a new podcast.
Oh, there you go.
There it is right there.
Look at you, you sexy bitch.
greg fitzsimmons
I put up yours, the picture of you doing the exact same pose.
unidentified
2048. But that all makes sense.
joe rogan
So now, what's going on with you with the other one, with you and the dentist?
What was that photo?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, I just got my wisdom tooth pulled out the other day.
joe rogan
Oh, no you didn't.
Oh, Jesus.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, look at that.
joe rogan
Is that it in his hand?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, God, dude.
What happened?
Was it getting impacted?
greg fitzsimmons
No, I... It had a filling in it, and I guess I've...
joe rogan
Cracked?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, you know, I have ADHD. So the doctor gives...
The last, like, seven or eight years I've been on, like, Ritalin.
And it makes me grind my teeth.
And I ground my crack into my wisdom tooth.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, dude.
greg fitzsimmons
So he went in with some pliers...
It took like two seconds.
I thought he was going to be like, you know, I thought he was going to have his foot on my forehead and sweating and pulling it.
He just went in, popped it out, threw some gauze on it.
I did three shows that night.
joe rogan
No way.
greg fitzsimmons
No problem.
joe rogan
Really?
greg fitzsimmons
Some people have like a week-long bad reaction to it.
I got lucky.
joe rogan
Nothing.
greg fitzsimmons
Just popped right out.
No.
joe rogan
And so what do they do now?
They put like a crown in there or something?
unidentified
No.
greg fitzsimmons
It's a wisdom tooth.
They just leave it out.
joe rogan
Oh, no shit?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
So it's got like a...
But you have to keep rinsing with salt water.
Otherwise you get a...
joe rogan
Infection.
greg fitzsimmons
A dry hole or something they call it.
It's like a rotting...
joe rogan
Dry hole.
greg fitzsimmons
Because your bone underneath is exposed to...
Because you need a blood clot to get in there.
And if the blood clot doesn't form, then your bone is exposed and your breath apparently becomes like a fucking nightmare.
And you get an infection and you'll get a pain all the way through your ear.
And it happens to like 5% of people that get their wisdom tooth taken out.
joe rogan
Do you know that people that get mouth infections oftentimes get heart attacks because of them?
greg fitzsimmons
I've heard that.
Yeah.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
You would think you just have bad breath.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, you could die.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, what do you do when somebody you know well has bad breath?
joe rogan
Tell them.
greg fitzsimmons
Do you?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Have you done that?
joe rogan
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
No way.
joe rogan
Tell me, too.
Yeah, tell me.
greg fitzsimmons
I'll tell you.
joe rogan
My breath stinks sometimes.
greg fitzsimmons
I drink a lot of coffee.
That's my downfall.
joe rogan
Here's mine as well.
You also have to brush your tongue, man.
greg fitzsimmons
You gotta brush your tongue.
jamie vernon
You could buy an account that had 240,000 plus followers that's over five years old for 150 bucks.
joe rogan
Oh, but that's a whole account.
jamie vernon
Taking over the account, but when you switch the name, your followers wouldn't know the difference.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
There was an account I was following.
It must have been some meme account.
I just noticed that it switched to, like, booty pics or some shit like that.
I was like, when did I start following, like, at booty?
joe rogan
Right, but that's not good for Greg.
greg fitzsimmons
So it merges.
jamie vernon
It's going to be the same thing.
Instead of having 85,000, like, tomorrow he will have 250,000.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they wouldn't be the same followers, right?
jamie vernon
I think it blends them together.
joe rogan
Oh!
So he adds those followers?
jamie vernon
It's weird what happens when that goes down.
joe rogan
So he would add an additional 250,000 followers or 240,000 followers?
I'm into that.
Strange shit going on with that.
Apparently, when you eat a ketogenic diet, which I'm on, it's like a low-carb, high-fat diet, it makes your breath smell like fucking shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, so I'm pretty cognizant of that.
I'm pretty aware.
greg fitzsimmons
Was it a lot of meat?
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, because the meat doesn't digest as fast.
joe rogan
It's just fat burning.
It's the idea that your body burns fat as a fuel instead of protein, or excuse me, instead of carbohydrates.
Like the standard American diet, we eat a lot of refined carbohydrates, breads, pastas, things along those lines.
And what I try to do is lean to a much more fat-based diet, a lot of coconut, a lot of avocado, meat, things along those lines.
I don't have very much carbs.
My carb intake is pretty low, except when I go off the rails.
I go off the rails like maybe once a week or so.
I'll have like pasta or something like that.
You know, not pizza.
I haven't had pizza in a while.
That's my super off-the-rails food.
greg fitzsimmons
That's when you're in New York for a couple days.
joe rogan
I'll eat a full pizza.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then just feel like a fucking slob.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just so disgusting.
It's amazing what I'm willing to do for mouth pleasure.
Just for that It's like an orgasm.
And then you just feel like shit for hours.
The taste only lasts for like 20 minutes, but so what?
I'm willing to sacrifice hours of health.
greg fitzsimmons
Well, what do you sacrifice for an orgasm?
When you're single, the amount of booze that you'll buy a girl and conversation you'll listen to.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that doesn't have a downside.
greg fitzsimmons
All for a 10-second orgasm.
joe rogan
The only downside is you fuck someone you don't really like and then you have to talk to them afterwards.
Those brutal days.
You know what the most brutal move was ever when I was young and stupid?
You would go on a vacation with a girl that you didn't really know that well.
Or invite her to come out with you on the road.
Like, hey, I'm working in Philadelphia this weekend.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
And Uncle Chuckles fuckerfest fucking...
And you would have them come with you.
joe rogan
And, you know, an hour after you came, you couldn't deal with them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You were just like, I can't believe I did this.
Like, you thought it was the perfect idea.
We'll get together.
We'll have some fun.
I'll take her to dinner.
We'll have...
She can come to see my shows.
And back then, man, people didn't have cell phones, so you were on top of each other.
You didn't have anything to do.
greg fitzsimmons
No distractions.
Yeah, right.
You got cable TV and you're gluing in that.
joe rogan
If you even had cable, if you're on the road, a lot of times you're staying in, like back then, you're staying in these terrible hotels, right?
You didn't have any money.
So you're staying in some bullshit-ass hotel with like three channels that you could watch.
greg fitzsimmons
It's like one restaurant, some shitty deli.
joe rogan
And you have nothing in common with the person you just had sex with.
Zero.
greg fitzsimmons
That's when you just start drinking.
That leads to the fight.
There's a bus stop involved.
There's a fucking trailway station involved.
joe rogan
It's crazy thinking about finding someone that you are compatible with that you also want to fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because those are two totally different things.
You could find someone that you have amazing conversation with, but you have zero sexual attraction to them.
So you have to find a combo.
You have to find someone that you're sexually attracted to, but you really enjoy them as a human being talking to.
And sometimes those are just not the same things.
Especially for guys.
I guess it must be that way for girls.
Obviously, I can't speak for them.
But when you're a guy and you meet a girl who's got a little waist and big tits and a big ass, you're willing to put up with a lot of nonsense.
greg fitzsimmons
And you don't even notice.
You're not even putting up with it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
You're so fascinated by the looks that whatever she's saying is just kind of flowing through.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're in a bar together.
She's talking nonsense, but then she puts her claws on your back and just rakes them down a little bit and squeezes you a little.
And you're like, yeah, later.
The promise of pleasure.
Yeah, she put her claws on me, bro.
She gave me the back scratch.
You're like, you know it's going to happen eventually.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And she's like, I need my drink.
I need my drink.
You have to get me my...
What would an annoying chick drink?
greg fitzsimmons
Like have sex on the beach.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh my god, I have to have a Long Island iced tea.
I need my Long Island iced tea.
I need it.
greg fitzsimmons
Then she drinks half of it.
Or a few sips.
joe rogan
Pounds it.
greg fitzsimmons
That's better.
joe rogan
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, she drinks a few sips and just leaves it there.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I hardly ever eat.
greg fitzsimmons
She orders a fucking lobster, eats one claw.
joe rogan
Well, there's some girls who don't like to eat in front of men.
Yeah.
First of all, they don't want to be judged by you eating, by them eating in front of you.
They don't want you judging, look at how much she's eating, this is disgusting.
She's going to be a big cow when she gets older.
unidentified
What could I eat?
joe rogan
She's just fucking shoveling in her face.
unidentified
I can't afford the upkeep of keeping up with this fucking food dispenser.
greg fitzsimmons
She's gonna take a giant shit in my apartment!
joe rogan
Oh my god, what if a girl has to shit but tries to hold it in?
She doesn't want you to know.
I had a buddy of mine, and he had a one-bedroom, not even a one-bedroom, it's like a studio.
And the bathroom was right beside the bed.
It was just like right over there.
And he was dating this girl.
And she just went in there and just wrecked it.
Just wrecked his bathroom.
And she would do it like every time she came over.
She would just go in there and wreck his bathroom.
And he was just always complaining about it.
He didn't know what to do.
He's like, dude, this is such a boner killer.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, I would show her right to the door.
The first time that happened, as she came out of the bathroom, I'd take her arm gently and say, it's time for you to go.
joe rogan
Okay, but what do you do?
What do you do if you have to shit?
Like, what if you go over a girl's house and she lives in a studio apartment?
greg fitzsimmons
You go take a walk.
You go to a McDonald's or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll be right back.
I left something in my car and you go shit in the bushes.
greg fitzsimmons
You go shit in the bushes.
San Francisco, you go right on the sidewalk.
And I get a shit.
I mean, even with my wife, like, I close the door.
I hide the shit.
She doesn't care.
Door open.
Sits with her legs crossed.
joe rogan
You hear him taking a dump.
It's just so discouraging.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, it's such a bummer.
joe rogan
You hear that echo from the fart before the shit comes up?
unidentified
Oh.
greg fitzsimmons
Plop!
joe rogan
And you're like, no, I gotta go!
unidentified
Erase, erase bad memory!
Why?
joe rogan
It's so weird.
We know everyone shits.
It's like, why is it so disturbing to us?
We have this idealized image of some movie woman.
It doesn't turn out to be that way.
It turns out to be she's an actual human who shits regular people.
greg fitzsimmons
We're so discouraged.
joe rogan
So sad.
So upset.
greg fitzsimmons
It is weird when I see certain beautiful women, I remind myself that they shit, and I can't process it.
I go, no, she doesn't.
She can't.
joe rogan
It's such a stupid thing.
greg fitzsimmons
Kathleen Turner shits.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, giant dumps.
She probably never really wipes good.
It's probably a disaster.
She just gives up halfway and starts drinking.
greg fitzsimmons
She does one wipe no matter what.
That's her policy.
joe rogan
She's probably got a flask right there sitting on the bowl.
greg fitzsimmons
Doesn't even look.
One wipe doesn't inspect, just drops it.
joe rogan
You know what we got here?
One of those Japanese toilets that has a button.
You press a button and it shoots water up your ass.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Cleans you up.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
Is that the one that's going to have the flotation tank in it?
joe rogan
No, no.
It's the one over here.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh.
joe rogan
Right there.
Got two of those here.
unidentified
Love it.
joe rogan
Got two of those things here.
greg fitzsimmons
What temperature is the water, though?
unidentified
It's warm.
joe rogan
It's nice.
greg fitzsimmons
It's always warm?
joe rogan
It's warm.
greg fitzsimmons
I need to go there before I leave.
I don't even have to shit.
joe rogan
Just force yourself.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that's the thing.
If you shoot that water up your asshole, you will have to shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, you do it before?
joe rogan
No, you can if you want to.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, if you just want to sit there and press the button, it doesn't know whether or not you shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's not like, Greg, why do you want me to shoot water on your ass?
joe rogan
You haven't even taken a shit, Greg.
greg fitzsimmons
This is illogical.
Open the door, Hal.
You ever have a day that's so fucking dull?
I had one yesterday.
Where you feel a shit coming and you get excited.
joe rogan
Something to do.
greg fitzsimmons
Something to do.
And then you shit.
And it feels good.
I'm not going to lie to you.
That might sound gay or whatever.
But a big, hard shit coming out of my ass.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
It feels enjoyable.
It's good to relief.
Like some chemicals are released in your body.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
Anybody denies that, I don't want to talk to them.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't have time.
I don't have time to talk to you about that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But if a woman tells you that, would you get upset?
If a woman's like, oh, I love taking a good fat shit.
This is something about taking a shit.
Feels so good.
You're bummed out, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Well, it would mean that she's up for ass play.
joe rogan
Would it be?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, it means that she's got a sensitive anus.
joe rogan
Are you?
greg fitzsimmons
Absolutely.
joe rogan
You ready to take one in the dick?
The asshole?
greg fitzsimmons
Not a dick, but like a pencil or something.
unidentified
Pencil.
joe rogan
What about a fingernail with a coke nail on it?
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, I had a girl do that.
She was blowing me way back when in Boston.
This chick, she was a Guido from Revere.
And I think I met her with you, as a matter of fact.
We were doing like a cable access show in Revere.
joe rogan
Yes.
greg fitzsimmons
And it was like two hot chicks working there.
joe rogan
Didn't Todd Parker do that with us, too?
greg fitzsimmons
Probably.
He did all those.
joe rogan
Larry Rapucci?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That sounds like the lineup.
But we met these two girls, and the girl I met, she just had on a college sweatshirt when I met her.
Hair was up in a potato chip clip, and you know, the leggings and the high top white Reeboks.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
That look.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, the Velcro Reeboks.
greg fitzsimmons
The Velcro Reeboks.
joe rogan
Aerobic shoes.
Remember?
unidentified
Remember?
greg fitzsimmons
So I ask her out, and then she goes, okay.
And we drive.
She picks me up.
My car was broken.
So I go, well, you pick me up, and we're going to go do a gig in Rhode Island.
She's like, all right.
joe rogan
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
So I go down to Kenmore Square.
She's going to pick me up at Kenmore Square.
A fucking white Corvette pulls up.
This is not what I expected.
Hair is now done.
It's fucking up.
It's touching the top of the car.
Nails are done.
She's got on a hot little dress and I'm like, sweetie, we're going to a fucking roadhouse in Narragansett, Rhode Island.
And I get in her car and we drive down and we get to the club early and we start fooling around.
And she sucks my dick before the show.
This is like, we haven't even had dinner yet.
Sucks my dick, takes her finger and Sticks it up my ass during the blowjob, but the fingernail is like a claw, and it scraped the inside of my ass, and I had blood on the toilet paper when I went to the bathroom later that night.
I was like, what were you thinking?
joe rogan
She's an animal.
greg fitzsimmons
She started putting it in.
I opened up.
I wasn't thinking about the nail.
joe rogan
Did she lick her finger first, or did she just go dry?
greg fitzsimmons
She did that porn drool thing on the tip of her finger.
joe rogan
Yeah, she had the spit come off in a big line, like a cobweb line.
greg fitzsimmons
And then we went into the club, and it was like a roadhouse.
Just like in the middle of nowhere, there was this just boxy kind of a room.
joe rogan
Was that a Brian Deary gig?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yes!
Yes!
greg fitzsimmons
And we go in, and I was doing this joke.
You probably remember it.
It was one of my standard jokes back then.
Actually, I don't even remember, but it was about the sign, no radio in car.
Oh, right.
joe rogan
People used to have those signs because they didn't want someone breaking into their car and stealing the radio.
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
So I had a joke about how I had that, and that somebody...
Then broke into my car and they took the sign.
They took the radio and the sign.
Whatever it was.
And somebody yelled out, it was probably a...
And he said, N-word.
And I went, what?
And I said, what?
I repeated it to make them say as if to shame them.
And then somebody else on the other side of the crowd goes, he said it was probably an N-word.
I was like, alright, let's wrap this one up.
And I see her laughing.
joe rogan
The n-word.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
She thinks it's hilarious.
greg fitzsimmons
She thinks it's great.
joe rogan
HILARIOUS! She's sucking that finger that she had in your asshole.
greg fitzsimmons
So she drove me back.
She drove back to Boston.
And at that time, I was a banquet waiter in the morning.
So I used to have to wake up at like 4.30 in the morning and go down to the Marriott and Copley Place and set up coffee stations for these fucking conventions.
joe rogan
I remember this story.
greg fitzsimmons
And so I get in the car to drive home.
I fucking fall asleep in the car in her Corvette as she drives me home.
And then I get out at my house and I go to kiss her goodnight.
And she just looks at me.
She goes, don't ever fucking call me again.
Because you fell asleep?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's it?
She's angry that you called?
greg fitzsimmons
She was angry that I fell asleep.
joe rogan
That was it?
greg fitzsimmons
She picked me up, drove me, blew me, and then I just passed out.
joe rogan
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
I passed out because she blew me.
That's what I do.
joe rogan
But how funny is that?
Don't ever call me again.
You slept.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like that.
That's what did it.
greg fitzsimmons
She washed her Corvette.
She put her hair up.
Not the N-word.
joe rogan
Not the finger in the ass.
All those are acceptable.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sucking your dick moments after meeting you.
All that's normal.
greg fitzsimmons
You know the horrible food I'm sure they served at that gig?
She probably had some mozzarella sticks that were hard as a rock.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
How funny is that?
greg fitzsimmons
That was all fine.
joe rogan
You falling asleep pissed her off.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But people don't like that when they're driving and you don't talk to them.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you just pass out.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
Good question.
joe rogan
Jamie, we're losing power.
greg fitzsimmons
Uh-oh.
It's getting dark.
Now it's back.
joe rogan
That's so strange.
What a stupid thing to have set up.
jamie vernon
It happened like four times yesterday.
joe rogan
Did they set that up on purpose?
Yeah, we need to switch that out.
greg fitzsimmons
I gotta say, for the first show, it's gone very smoothly.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I mean, we have a few hiccups that we need to deal with.
I thought the echo was going to be an issue, but it seems like it's just those microphones that was the echo, right?
It is, right?
Because it doesn't sound any different than me.
I like the purple behind you.
It's fetching.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
It's very good for your skin tone.
greg fitzsimmons
It's lovely.
Let me say, put me up on the...
Oh, yeah.
I like that.
joe rogan
It's a nice change, you know?
And the only reason, and honestly, we went with purple is because the guy who was doing it said, I couldn't find red the first time, so I'm going to look at this new place.
I said, well, what do you got?
And he said, well, there's a lot of other colors.
I go, you got purple?
And he goes, oh, we can get purple.
I'm like, let's go with purple.
Fuck it.
greg fitzsimmons
Purple is the ancient color of royalty.
joe rogan
Is it?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, Jesus.
There was a lot of...
It was always a symbol of Jesus, purple, because it meant the royals.
joe rogan
I didn't know that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
It's a beautiful color.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
It's flowers, right?
It's like tulips and shit.
There we go.
Royalty in Europe.
Since the time that the Roman emperors wore a Tyrian?
Tyrian purple.
Hmm.
Toga.
P-R-A-E-T-E-X-T-A. How do you say that?
greg fitzsimmons
Praetexta?
joe rogan
Praetexta?
Purple.
It's been the color most associated with royalty.
The British royal family and other European royalties still use it as a ceremonial color on special occasions.
What is that plant?
Is that some purple cabbage or some shit?
jamie vernon
I'm pretty sure it's cauliflower.
joe rogan
Cauliflower?
Pretty, pretty, pretty color.
Purple, I was associated with Prince.
greg fitzsimmons
That's right.
There you go.
joe rogan
That was one of the biggest bummers for me of celebrity deaths.
Prince was one of the all-time biggest.
greg fitzsimmons
That's amazing.
I was talking to, because when Tom Petty died, that one really...
joe rogan
That was a hard one, too.
greg fitzsimmons
That was a hard one because he was such the fucking soundtrack of our teen years.
And older years.
I mean, Free Fallin' when I was in my 30s.
His songs continue.
But somehow Prince, who didn't have...
You couldn't name more than three Prince songs.
jamie vernon
Oh, I could.
joe rogan
I could.
greg fitzsimmons
Most people can't.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was a...
Dude, Prince...
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, Prince played a big part in my late teen life.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was a huge Prince fan.
greg fitzsimmons
Purple Rain time?
joe rogan
Controversy, even before that.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was a fan of Prince from his first cassette when it was just him with no shirt on on the cover looking very androgynous, like there was no one like him before.
I remember seeing that cover somewhere I'm going, what the fuck is this?
Like, what is this guy?
And then I heard some of the songs.
I don't even remember what the big hits were off of the first one.
This is pre-Purple Rain, though.
But I remember controversy.
unidentified
Controversy.
joe rogan
Remember that song?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
Do I believe in God?
Do I believe in me?
unidentified
Some people want to die so they can be free.
joe rogan
Controversy.
unidentified
Controversy.
joe rogan
That's it.
That's the cover.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
Look at that.
joe rogan
Look at him.
Just a little tiny patch of hair in the middle of his chest.
greg fitzsimmons
No, but my point being, for not knowing a big catalog of his music, it did mean a lot to me.
joe rogan
What was that released in the 70s?
Really?
What does it say?
79?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Released in 1979, October 19th.
Wow, real close to today.
Real close to today, in 79. Almost 40 years ago.
Wow.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
greg fitzsimmons
More of an impact on you than Bowie?
joe rogan
Yeah, for me.
Yeah.
I mean, I was a big Bowie fan, too.
But the thing about Prince that was harder than Bowie for me was that Bowie died of a disease.
Right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Didn't he?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, he had...
Was it cancer?
I think he had some type of cancer.
joe rogan
Prince died from painkillers.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what drove me nuts.
It's like that goddamn fentanyl.
They found fentanyl in his body.
And I remember thinking at the time, like, God damn it.
I can't believe these fucking pills got prints.
greg fitzsimmons
That was the Michael Jackson drug, too, right?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
Michael Jackson died.
Yeah, he died from anesthesia.
He was so fucked up that before he died, he couldn't sleep, so he would get anesthetized.
Just stop and think about how many demons you have to have where Ambien doesn't work anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
The amazing thing is he would get up out of that, and they said he was the first guy on the set, choreographing his own shit, rehearsing harder than anybody.
joe rogan
Well, I wonder when he started doing that.
greg fitzsimmons
No, his last tour he was like that.
He was preparing for his final tour, and he was working his fucking balls off.
unidentified
Wow.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't do that very long, apparently.
Apparently that's part of the problem was that stuff, it limits your REM sleep.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which is, by the way...
One of the biggest things that's been happening to me since not smoking pot for all these days all these many many moons 16 days that we said 17 days The dreams are way different like way different like intense dreams like I have weird dreams man like they're very vivid and And I never thought about that before.
greg fitzsimmons
Are they the same dreams over and over again?
joe rogan
No, not at all.
But they're very vivid, like way more vivid than when I was smoking pot all the time.
greg fitzsimmons
Wow.
joe rogan
Like way more.
greg fitzsimmons
Because you think you're in a deeper REM cycle?
joe rogan
I've heard things, but I don't know what it is.
Jamie, pull up that.
See if you can find out what it is.
What's the cause?
jamie vernon
Before, I thought it had to do with the alpha waves state that marijuana puts you into it.
I don't know if that's true.
joe rogan
Does that make sense?
jamie vernon
A little bit.
Because your body is not at rest, or your brain isn't at rest while it's doing the alpha.
You need beta waves, I think, for rest.
joe rogan
I don't know what it is, but whatever the fuck it is, when you don't smoke pot, when you smoke pot all the time for years, and then you don't smoke pot, you have some fucking dreams, baby.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Like, they're intense.
Sometimes I wake up to pee and I go, what the fuck is going on in my head?
Like weird, crazy dreams.
Like being in a plane where it comes really close to hitting a mountain and the next thing you know, you're hanging on the ledge of a building and the next thing you know, you're running through the woods and next thing you know, it's fucking freezing cold and you're trying to stay warm and you've got a fire going.
What kind of fucking wacky primal dreams am I going through here?
greg fitzsimmons
That's awesome.
joe rogan
It's very weird because I'm waking up and it's not like I wake up and I'm scared.
I wake up going, what the fuck am I doing?
Studies on cannabis and sleep were conducted in 1970s.
Some information about the possible effects of cannabis and sleep.
Low dose of THC, 4 to 20 milligrams, mildly decreased REM sleep in both regular users and non-users.
Interestingly, deep sleep was increased when cannabis was initially used, but this effect disappeared after repeated use.
With high doses of THC, 50 to 210 milligrams.
Now stop and think about Lee Sy had eaten 500. Yeah, right.
And that's edible, which is way different.
REM sleep was decreased in both regular users and non-users.
Total sleep time was not affected, but deep sleep was decreased.
When THC was stopped, some rebound in REM sleep was found with reduced sleep time and increased time to fall asleep.
Now this is interesting because...
What I want to know, look at this.
Some people do have withdrawal symptoms when stopping prolonged and heavy use of cannabis, and this can adversely affect sleep.
I didn't have any withdrawal symptoms.
Zero, none, not one.
But what's interesting to me is I wonder if there's any benefit to having those dreams, rather, versus not having those dreams.
Like, I wonder if in some way I'm doing myself a disservice by smoking pot all the time.
I wonder if there's, like...
Is there a point of diminishing returns?
Because there's a lot of benefits for cannabis, right?
There's a lot of benefits in terms of the anti-inflammatory effects.
There's neuroprotective effects of cannabis that they found that regular users, they think it might actually hold off Alzheimer's in some people.
But I wonder, what's the balance?
Because I've never really considered That it was an issue at all.
I always felt like there was zero negative health effects of using it.
For me, personally.
I'm like, I get my blood work done regularly.
I'm healthy.
I eat really well.
I take a lot of vitamins.
I exercise regularly.
And I like pot, so I smoke pot.
And obviously, it's not hurting me.
It's not like people drink all the time and fuck up their liver and their body and...
But now I'm wondering.
greg fitzsimmons
Doesn't affect your memory.
You have a great memory.
joe rogan
It's pretty good.
Maybe it'd be better.
greg fitzsimmons
Hmm.
Maybe.
joe rogan
You know?
unidentified
Essentially...
joe rogan
What do you got here, Jamie?
jamie vernon
It's a longer article about alcohol and marijuana effects on sleep, but this is the marijuana part.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
What does it say?
Furthermore, it can increase slow-wave NREM deep sleep, which is good because that's where experts believe most of your actual recuperation takes place.
However, as you continue to consume, your slow-wave sleep will get severely reduced.
Reducing the restfulness of your sleep is supposed to provide.
Reducing, rather, the restfulness your sleep is supposed to provide.
Hmm.
So, but here's the thing, like, what if I get high during the day?
Like, why is that affecting my sleep at night?
That's what's confusing.
Because it's not like I get high a lot at night.
Sometimes me and the missus will smoke a little before I give her some of that.
greg fitzsimmons
Nice.
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
Feels better that way.
greg fitzsimmons
You punch her?
You smoke pot?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
That's the hard fuck.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, wow.
That's a hard fuck.
joe rogan
That's why I'm scared of Chrissy Blinkley's too old.
She can't take it anymore.
greg fitzsimmons
I told you to duck, Christy.
unidentified
I don't want her to bleed like your butthole did that day.
A couple days.
joe rogan
You know, if you have sex with someone, they start breaking.
That's not good.
But I'm wondering.
I'm wondering, like, I need to know.
I want to find out, like, what's the...
I'm going to start looking into this now.
greg fitzsimmons
Now, is that different than that stuff that...
CBDs?
joe rogan
Yeah, very different.
Yeah, very different.
greg fitzsimmons
Is it possible?
joe rogan
CBDs don't have psychoactive effects.
greg fitzsimmons
I disagree!
joe rogan
No, you're...
I know what you're talking about.
You're talking about that Charlotte's Web.
greg fitzsimmons
Yes.
joe rogan
See, there is a difference.
greg fitzsimmons
That shit gets me high!
joe rogan
Yeah, see, it doesn't get me high, but...
I'm not sure if we have the same, obviously we don't have the same body, you know, like what affects you, you know, food-wise.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everybody's different when it comes to that stuff.
But Charlotte's Web has a bunch of other cannabinoids.
It's not just CBD. And that's one of the more beneficial aspects of it, is that stuff, it uses the full plant.
So maybe CBD wouldn't get you high, but maybe that kind of hemp oil, more comprehensive, cannabis oil would get you high.
That's interesting to get you high.
Like, how high?
greg fitzsimmons
Nice high.
Just like...
joe rogan
Mellow.
greg fitzsimmons
More like takes the anxiety out and makes me just really...
It's really nice at the end of the day, around 5 o'clock when you're re-entering the family.
joe rogan
Maybe you have...
Maybe some of that anxiety is coming from inflammation.
Yeah.
And maybe what it's doing is reducing inflammation and relaxing you.
That's what I would guess.
Because it doesn't make people test positive for THC. So if you had a company and you were working for them, I don't want to get anybody fired, but I'm pretty sure they've tested this stuff.
And if you had a company and you're working for them and they piss test you, and if you're taking Charlotte's Web Oil, I don't think it does anything to you.
I don't think it shows up.
How fucked up is that, man?
Having a job that tests your piss.
Hey, Greg, what, are you having fun over the weekend?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You fucking loser.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Those are the same jobs that tell you you can't date anybody from work.
It's like, all right, so you got me working 12 hours a day.
I don't see anybody else in my life, and I can't date the women that I'm, you know, getting to know.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that creates complications, man.
greg fitzsimmons
I know, but they shouldn't make it illegal.
joe rogan
That's true.
greg fitzsimmons
They can suggest it.
How weird is that?
joe rogan
You can't tell people what to do.
greg fitzsimmons
They do!
They fucking tell a manager he can't sleep with an employee.
joe rogan
Well, that's because they're worried about some Harvey Weinstein type shit.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
Because that's always the thing.
The boss fucking the secretary, right?
You know?
I know a guy, a real recent guy, who works for this big-ass corporation that got busted.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah?
joe rogan
Sending it home to the secretary, baby.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
In that office, day in, day out, looking at each other, giving each other a nod.
unidentified
What are you doing?
joe rogan
And then one day...
greg fitzsimmons
In the workplace or they went to a hotel?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know the specifics, but he's in trouble.
greg fitzsimmons
You know him personally?
joe rogan
I know.
Eh, I can't talk.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'll tell you later.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
When you tell me the story about the guy who gave babies to Michael...
Oh.
I know who you're talking about.
Oh.
That's right.
Even worse, your story involves kids dying that got sent to Michael Jackson, isn't it?
Isn't that what it is?
greg fitzsimmons
It's entirely possible.
joe rogan
Yes.
Now I know what you're referring to.
Yeah.
Oh.
I got other things to tell you about that guy.
That guy.
unidentified
We can't tell you, folks, because we don't want to get sued.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You just can't talk about certain things.
But who knows what was actually going on?
You know, I've always had the weirdest theory about Michael Jackson.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
That he was castrated.
He's a castrata.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, I would buy that.
The voice.
joe rogan
The voice, the body.
Extremely thin.
He didn't look like he had any muscle at all.
Which is like what someone who's been castrated would look like.
No testosterone at all.
greg fitzsimmons
Couldn't sleep.
joe rogan
Super high-pitched voice.
Kept that high-pitched voice deep into his 50s.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think the sleep thing, I think just riddled with anxiety and craziness and all the fucking plastic surgery.
I mean, he was literally an exercise in madness.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was a person who went mad from people paying attention to him.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
With unlimited resources.
unidentified
Is that him looking jacked?
joe rogan
That doesn't look as jacked as a girl who goes to CrossFit.
greg fitzsimmons
You know what's amazing, though, about him is for a scrawny, effeminate guy, he acted like a badass in his videos.
You know what I mean?
He actually played the part of a guy who was like, you know, gonna kick somebody's ass.
joe rogan
Smooth criminal.
jamie vernon
Didn't you have a sports jacket on in the Thriller video, like a Letterman's jacket, right?
Yes.
joe rogan
I watched Thriller the other day.
My kids love it, man.
They love the scene where he turns into a werewolf.
My youngest daughter goes, he's like a little cat person.
It's not even a wolf.
jamie vernon
They're making it a cartoon or some shit.
Thriller?
Yeah, in some way or another.
joe rogan
Huh.
The werewolf was so corny looking now.
It was so weird.
It was not really a werewolf.
It was like a werewolf cat sort of thing.
You remember?
Remember what it looked like?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
The whiskers grew out of his face.
I remember being super excited about it because it was Rick Baker that did it.
He's the same guy who did The American Werewolf in London.
greg fitzsimmons
He did a lot of Star Wars.
joe rogan
He's a makeup guy.
Special effects guy.
He created those masks and all the crazy shit.
All special effects that you saw in a lot of the really badass horror movies back then.
Like, there.
That's it.
Like, what is that?
That's not a wolf.
What are those whiskers?
Like, that's some weird...
greg fitzsimmons
Kind of like a monkey mouth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You're right?
It's almost like a baboon mouth, right?
What is that?
Hey, he's like a baboon man.
greg fitzsimmons
That's snake eyes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like a lot of things.
But that one looks like a werewolf.
Go full screen on that one.
You got...
Oh, see?
Ooh, that's badass.
It was pretty cool.
It was interesting.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it was not a werewolf like you would think of a werewolf, like an American werewolf in London werewolf.
greg fitzsimmons
Who also had on the high school jacket.
Right?
unidentified
Did he?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, pull up the American werewolf in London.
joe rogan
I don't remember that.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, maybe not.
joe rogan
American Werewolf in London, maybe he did when they were walking through the bogs, because he was supposed to be a college guy.
greg fitzsimmons
Right.
joe rogan
So maybe he had a college letterman's jacket on.
Oh, no, it was just a...
Yeah, it was just a down coat.
Fuck, that's a good movie.
greg fitzsimmons
That was...
I gotta show my kids that movie.
joe rogan
Don't show them.
Oh, well, they're old enough.
It's an intense movie.
Oh, look at that.
Jesus Christ, go full screen on that.
I don't remember that scene.
jamie vernon
That's it.
joe rogan
Oh.
Oh, obviously.
Whoa.
greg fitzsimmons
How old should my daughter be before she watches Bruno?
joe rogan
What's Bruno?
Oh, that's the gay...
Eh, now.
unidentified
Fuck it.
greg fitzsimmons
It's okay, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, she likes the beach boys.
Show us some gay shit.
greg fitzsimmons
She'll ask me if she can watch a movie at dinner and I'm always like, I don't know what's appropriate anymore for anybody.
joe rogan
My wife got mad because I showed the nine-year-old the original Alien movie.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, did it scare?
joe rogan
No.
She's a little badass.
She hung in there.
She loved it.
unidentified
Yeah?
greg fitzsimmons
It's a slow movie.
A lot of times kids like that, their intention span is too short for a slow movie like that.
joe rogan
You really think that movie's slow?
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I heard Blade Runner, the new Blade Runner, is very slow.
greg fitzsimmons
I know the old one was.
joe rogan
But very awesome.
greg fitzsimmons
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard it's like super underrated.
All these people are like, it's not doing well.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I haven't seen it, but I need to see it.
But a lot of people are saying that it's like really slow.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
No movies are doing well this year.
joe rogan
What do you think that is?
greg fitzsimmons
Maybe people are watching Netflix more?
joe rogan
I think that's exactly what it is.
Because the movie experience is an hour and a half, two hours, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Plus getting there, parking.
joe rogan
A lot of money.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Netflix is like, what, nine bucks a month?
greg fitzsimmons
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And you could just binge watch House of Cards and see your fucking head falls off?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm watching the OA right now.
unidentified
What's that?
joe rogan
Do you know what that is?
It's a weird supernatural thriller on Netflix.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
It's fucking great.
It's great.
Although some assholes on Twitter thought it was a good idea to give me some spoilers!
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, that's fucked up.
joe rogan
You twats!
I shouldn't have said it.
I was just trying to tell people that I found a good show, and then I fucked up, because again, late at night, barely paid attention, read some of the comments, I'm like, God damn it.
It's got a wolf shirt on.
What does it say?
We don't need a season two of the OA. Oh, fuck off.
People just think it's such a great idea to be negative.
greg fitzsimmons
I know.
joe rogan
It's so much fun to be negative.
greg fitzsimmons
Although I badmouth Aerosmith on this episode.
joe rogan
You did a little bit.
I'm a hypocrite.
greg fitzsimmons
I don't feel good about that.
joe rogan
Well, you did what you gotta do.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh my.
You know what the best show I've seen in a long time is The Americans.
It's on Amazon Prime.
It's about this couple that comes from Russia, and they've been taught to be Americans from the time they were like, you know, 12 years old.
joe rogan
You know that's based on a true story.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, Montclair, New Jersey.
greg fitzsimmons
Dude, the acting is Kerry Russell.
I forget the guy's name, but they're just so fucking good.
unidentified
I gotta write that down.
greg fitzsimmons
She's a badass.
joe rogan
Kerry Russell.
What else has she been in?
greg fitzsimmons
She was in that...
jamie vernon
Felicity, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Felicity, which was huge.
unidentified
What's that?
jamie vernon
It was on 15 years ago on Fox.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
Really?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
greg fitzsimmons
But it's like...
I watched six seasons of it in six months.
joe rogan
And they fucked a bunch of other people, right?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, it's part of their job is they both go off and fuck other people.
And what are the people he has to fuck?
Well, I don't want to spoil it.
joe rogan
Hey!
Settle it down!
greg fitzsimmons
You'll see.
You'll see it all!
joe rogan
Don't say nothing!
Don't say nothing!
All right, let's wrap this up and we're going to talk about all the things we couldn't talk about on the air.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah!
joe rogan
Hey, thank you so much for being on episode one.
My pleasure, brother.
greg fitzsimmons
Can I give you some dates?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, yeah.
Oh, kill the music.
Let everybody know where the fuck Greg Fitzsimmons is going to be.
Ladies and gentlemen, coming to you.
GregFitzsimmons.com.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah, Fitzdog.com.
joe rogan
Fitzdog.com.
greg fitzsimmons
This weekend in Grand Rapids, Michigan, the 19th through 21st.
Spokane Comedy Club, November 2nd through the 4th.
Atlanta Punchline, November 17th through 19th.
And Zanies in Nashville, December 8th and 9th.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Janies in Nashville, one of the great clubs in the country.
greg fitzsimmons
It's a fun club.
joe rogan
It's one of the best.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, wait a minute.
I've never worked there.
Oh, good.
joe rogan
No?
greg fitzsimmons
No.
joe rogan
Oh, good.
That was one of the ones, remember I was telling you, where Gersh kept clubs from me?
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
When I was with them?
That was one of the ones.
greg fitzsimmons
Oh, all right.
joe rogan
It's a great spot.
greg fitzsimmons
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ladies and gentlemen, that is it for episode one from the new studio.
Thank you so much.
We'll be back soon.
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