Jan. 1, 2017 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Yee-haw! | |
| Live, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Eddie Bravo, Joey Motherfucker Diaz, and Brandon Schaub. | ||
| I love you guys. | ||
| Love you guys, too. | ||
| Happy New Year. | ||
| Happy New Year, motherfuckers. | ||
| Happy New Year. | ||
| Everybody who came to the show last night, thanks for coming out. | ||
| Sorry we couldn't stick around. | ||
| I've had a stomach bug since Thursday. | ||
| I was severely worried that I was going to shit myself during the show. | ||
| I was worried I was going to shit myself during the UFC. During the UFC, I didn't eat all day, and then right before it, I'm like, God damn it, I gotta eat something. | ||
| Yeah, my stomach's been fucked. | ||
| My kids had some sort of a bug, some sort of a flu. | ||
| The whole house had it. | ||
| My wife had it, my daughters had it, and I didn't get it until I got to Vegas. | ||
| And on Vegas, I worked out with Della Grate Thursday, and I was burping and farting. | ||
| I was like, what is going on? | ||
| And then the middle of the night, I woke up, I was like, oh, this ain't good. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| And then the next day, I couldn't eat anything. | ||
| Couldn't hold anything down. | ||
| And right before the UFC, I said, oh, I gotta eat something. | ||
| So I had some quesadillas. | ||
| I just took a chance. | ||
| And I was like, I might very well have to sprint to the shitter. | ||
| So I got through that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was during the UFC? Yeah, I was severely worried I was gonna have to shit myself. | ||
| But I pulled it out and then wrecked a bathroom afterwards. | ||
| Destroy! | ||
| That kind where you smell it coming out of your body and you're like, what in the fuck is in there? | ||
| And then the same thing yesterday. | ||
| I couldn't eat all day before the show. | ||
| Couldn't eat a goddamn thing. | ||
| And then right before we were in the dressing room, I go, I gotta eat something. | ||
| I'm tired. | ||
| I feel kind of weak. | ||
| So I had some cheese and some meat. | ||
| So that's why I didn't stick around after the show, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| But if you came, we had a good goddamn time. | ||
| I figured you got sick because you made like a bear meat fucking omelet or some shit. | ||
| Fed it to your family. | ||
| If I got sick from that, no, everybody got sick from school. | ||
| Little kids, man, they just get sick. | ||
| There's a bunch of them together, and they just somehow or another... | ||
| You ever think about that? | ||
| Like, who's the first person who got VD? There had to be one dirty motherfucker that was number... | ||
| There has to be a patient zero. | ||
| Snotty-nosed kid. | ||
| There's one person, like VD, right? | ||
| Like, that had to come from an individual first, right? | ||
| I mean, every cold has to come from somewhere. | ||
| Apparently a lot of the colds we get come from agriculture. | ||
| That's why it's all like swine flu and shit like that. | ||
| I thought the white man brought it here to the Indians. | ||
| We're like, hey, how you doing? | ||
| And then they're just sick as fuck and die. | ||
| Dude, we went over that the other day in a podcast. | ||
| 90% of all Native Americans were wiped out by diseases that they didn't have an immune system for when the Europeans came in the 1500s. | ||
| Fucking white people. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Did more of them get actually killed in battles? | ||
| No. | ||
| More of them died by disease, believe it or not. | ||
| Fucking 90% of the population. | ||
| It's really crazy. | ||
| Where'd you get that from? | ||
| The library? | ||
| We're not doing that today, Eddie Bravo. | ||
| We're not doing that. | ||
| We're not doing that today. | ||
| One figure. | ||
| Library.com, yo! | ||
| So, UFC 207. That was one of the craziest events of all time. | ||
| And watching that main event, it was like... | ||
| It was surreal. | ||
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First of all, it was surreal because my body was all weirded out because I was a little out of it. | |
| About to pass out. | ||
| About to shit all over my chair. | ||
| But it was also just bizarre. | ||
| That was the least competitive... | ||
| Like, main event, other than Aldo and McGregor, but that was one dynamic shot to the chin that knocked him out. | ||
| Like, everything about that was off. | ||
| Can you think about another main event championship level where it was that kind of big of a discrepancy? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, it wasn't even a fight. | ||
| And I think leading up to it, there was some... | ||
| Kind of red flags that you saw leading up to it, if you think back now. | ||
| She was in great shape, though, everybody said, right? | ||
| Physically. | ||
| Physically, though. | ||
| Physically. | ||
| She looked great. | ||
| But, like, what kind of sparring was she doing? | ||
| You know, one of the things I was thinking when she was hitting pads, she was standing there hitting pads with Edmund, I was like, they're standing right in front of each other. | ||
| Like, she's not moving. | ||
| Like, she's just hitting pads. | ||
| Pads are tough to tell, though, right? | ||
| Because sometimes they're doing it for the camera. | ||
| If the countdown crew is there, you don't want to show your new shit. | ||
| But also, what did people think was going to happen? | ||
| Like, did you think this whole time when she was shooting these movies, doing something, had me and her come up with a plan for her to stick on the outside, jab and move? | ||
| That's not in her DNA. That's not even good enough, anyway. | ||
| She had to close the distance and clinch. | ||
| That should have been the only plan. | ||
| The idea of standing with Amanda Nunes is just ridiculous. | ||
| The difference in punching power is like literally double. | ||
| But we've seen her fight big punchers before. | ||
| Who? | ||
| Betch could hit pretty hard. | ||
| I'm not saying similar, but I'm saying what Betch did, she was a beast. | ||
| Betch has decent power and she's very aggressive. | ||
| She throws volume strikes, but she throws their arms. | ||
| She doesn't hit nearly as hard as Amanda. | ||
| Amanda torques her whole body in this shit. | ||
| I agree, Joe. | ||
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And Betch's arms are this long. | |
| Amanda's got some goddamn telephone poles. | ||
| And that's all fine, but don't you think the game plan should have been get her to the ground. | ||
| And she tried that. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| She was already lit up. | ||
| She wasn't there though mentally. | ||
| That's why I'm saying there's things leading up to it. | ||
| And I think the biggest red flag for me, and you know Dana better than anyone. | ||
| He's a promoter through and through. | ||
| If not the best of all time. | ||
| I can't think of another one. | ||
| Don King, I guess. | ||
| But still. | ||
| For him to say, yeah, you can skip all the media shit and just focus on the fight. | ||
| I was like, God, that just doesn't seem right, man. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| She's managed by or she's handled by William Morris in her endeavor, WME. WME owns UFC now. | ||
| I'm aware of that. | ||
| I'm sure that's what... | ||
| Dana said it was his decision. | ||
| It was his decision. | ||
| Yeah, he goes, I'm the one who let... | ||
| We agreed to this. | ||
| It was in her contract. | ||
| It's a one-time thing I'm never doing again. | ||
| I thought, God damn, that is sketchy. | ||
| So she must have put it in the contract. | ||
| She must have said, this is what I want to do. | ||
| I don't want to talk to any media. | ||
| I just want to go out and train. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| That's not a red flag to you? | ||
| Not if Conor did it. | ||
| I mean, Conor doesn't have the choice. | ||
| But if Conor did it, if Conor said, fuck all this fucking media. | ||
| I'm going to Dublin. | ||
| I'm going to train. | ||
| He would never do that. | ||
| If he did, I'd have zero problem with it. | ||
| Is that not a red flag, though, to anyone involved at all? | ||
| No. | ||
| For Dana to say, all good, don't do any so. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| She goes out, she goes out, grabs a hold of Man Nunes, flips her on her head, semi-unconscious, catches her in an armbar. | ||
| She's the new champ in 35 seconds. | ||
| You're not saying this. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
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No! | |
| You wouldn't say there's a red flag if she went out and dominated and got an armbar in the first round. | ||
| You would definitely not say that skipping the media is a red flag. | ||
| You're only saying it because this is like armchair quarterbacking. | ||
| It's not, though, because I said there's a red flag before this. | ||
| So if she did interviews afterwards, let's say she went out there, dominated her in a minute, submitted her, and then she did interviews afterwards, that's a little different. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Because she's just saying, I'm not doing any media at all. | ||
| Even post, you're saying? | ||
| Even post. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, she doesn't want to talk after that. | ||
| I mean, why would you want to talk to that? | ||
| The whole sell on this was, she's serious now. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| She's focused, knowing her, she's serious now. | ||
| To what extent? | ||
| The whole thing was like this big, obvious marketing perspective, like a promotional Hollywood perspective. | ||
| Like they had the movie, which is a really good, like, yeah, you pumped up. | ||
| Like that whole thing about her coming back and they lift up the garage door and you see her working out really hard. | ||
| What they did is they created a great hype piece, you know? | ||
| If you're in the Ronda Rousey business. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Amanda Nunez going, what the- Exactly. | ||
| The best was their picture promoting this UFC, and there's a picture of Ronda in her fight gear, and Ronda in her street clothes goes, she's back, 207. It's like, fuck, man, what about Amanda? | ||
| When I say, in this crazy world of MMA- I saw that picture. | ||
| Who did that picture? | ||
| Was that an official UFC picture? | ||
| That was an official UFC kind of social media post. | ||
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Wow. | |
| It's crazy, man. | ||
| Because now what do you do? | ||
| It's also crazy because it's crazy for a marketing perspective. | ||
| I mean, a lot of people thought that Ronda was going to win. | ||
| A lot of people. | ||
| I was 100% who the fuck knows. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| That's exactly how I felt. | ||
| When I was watching that fight play out, I was like, who the fuck knows? | ||
| No idea. | ||
| I mean, you could see, look, Ronda looked like she was in amazing shape. | ||
| You think about the things that Ronda's been able to do in the past, like Sarah McMahon, you would think, well, maybe she ties her up in a clinch, blasts her with a knee to the body, flips her on her back, and armbars her. | ||
| Who the fuck knows? | ||
| If she gets you on the ground, her armbar technique is outstanding. | ||
| It's just some of the best, if not the best, I've ever seen inside the icon. | ||
| Probably the best, probably the best. | ||
| That could have happened. | ||
| But it was so who the fuck knows. | ||
| But the moment she got hit, she's not moving her head at all. | ||
| She's standing straight up in the air. | ||
| And then I see her legs get close together. | ||
| And that's when you know someone's really hurt. | ||
| When someone gets lit up and then they start moving, but their legs are too close together, it's just not working right. | ||
| It's not like they kind of know what to do, but it's just not, they're not, they're The balance isn't good. | ||
| There's no head movement. | ||
| She was probably hurt with like the second or third punch that Amanda hit her with. | ||
| She was probably on Queer Street. | ||
| That's what woke her up. | ||
| She didn't know where she was until she got hit, Joe. | ||
| Look at that one. | ||
| She got hit when you go, ooh, ooh, she's hurt. | ||
| She's hurt. | ||
| Look at her face. | ||
| Her hands. | ||
| You even said it yourself. | ||
| She threw up a kick. | ||
| She threw some kicks to try to keep Amanda off. | ||
| I think she didn't realize. | ||
| I think when Amanda hits girls, they just go, holy shit. | ||
| But what else would you expect in that? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You don't realize until you get hit, but you hear all the criticism now of Edmund, who's obviously a terrible coach. | ||
| But take that out of it. | ||
| If you bring a horse to water and they can't drink, there's nothing else you can do. | ||
| So if mentally she doesn't want to be in there, it doesn't matter. | ||
| You think she didn't want to be in there? | ||
| Why'd you say that? | ||
| It didn't look like the same tenacity that we're used to seeing. | ||
| She looked super tenacious until she got cracked. | ||
| Joe was 44 seconds. | ||
| Yeah, but you don't need more than that. | ||
| When she ate that first jab. | ||
| She got hurt with a right hand, maybe 10-50. | ||
| We can watch the whole fight. | ||
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So watch the whole fight. | |
| It's 48 seconds. | ||
| It's on YouTube already. | ||
| Yeah, it's everywhere. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| You don't think she's faced tough fighters before? | ||
| Like, what do you think it is? | ||
| I don't understand why you're even saying this. | ||
| You see that she got hit. | ||
| And you see she got hurt. | ||
| And you've been hit and hurt before. | ||
| You know what happens. | ||
| You just don't know what the fuck's going on. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| However, I don't think that jab put her lights out. | ||
| Well, it wasn't just a jab, dude. | ||
| She hit her with a right hand. | ||
| It was the first jab that landed. | ||
| When she went into close distance. | ||
| Okay, but the first jab landed, but then she got hit with many punches. | ||
| I don't understand why you're confused as to the result. | ||
| I mean, she got hit by the biggest power puncher in the 135-pound division by far. | ||
| There's not a single girl in that division that punches like Amanda does. | ||
| I agree with that, but it wasn't a right hand right away. | ||
| Yes, it was. | ||
| It was a jab right away, but a right hand right after that. | ||
| Once Rhonda tried to close distance. | ||
| It was 40 seconds of Amanda punching Rhonda in the face until Rhonda went out. | ||
| The idea that something's confusing, that she didn't look like she wanted to be there, she was hurt multiple times in those exchanges. | ||
| I think we're doing a lot of armchair quarterbacking, right? | ||
| Who the fuck knows what was going on in her head? | ||
| What you're speculating whether or not she wanted to be there after she got hit. | ||
| The problem is she might have been just rocked. | ||
| And there's also the reality that she was knocked out fucking cold a year ago. | ||
| And it was a bad beating and then a vicious head kick. | ||
| And there is something about those goddamn neck kicks, man. | ||
| There's something about when someone shins you in the neck like she got shinned and your whole body just goes limp, you're doing so much damage in there. | ||
| But she had 411 days off. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| I think it was just bad strategy. | ||
| Just really simple. | ||
| The strategy was not good. | ||
| What happens if Amanda's just better? | ||
| That's possible, too. | ||
| Look, I was the one who said, like, way early on, I think Amanda's her most dangerous challenge. | ||
| Because Amanda hit so fucking hard. | ||
| After she starched Sarah McMahon, and when she was beating up Misha, I was like, Jesus Christ! | ||
| She punches harder than anybody in that division. | ||
| She's got dangerous weapons with her hands. | ||
| But I really think there's a lot of people that get KO'd like that and they are never the same again. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| They can't absorb a shot anymore. | ||
| And then also in your brain, according to Chuck Liddell, he was telling me about it, because Chuck was so tough that he would just fucking use his chin, sort of like Lineker does. | ||
| It's part of his defense, knowing that he can absorb shots. | ||
| And after a while, his brain was like, hey man, fuck you. | ||
| Like, his brain was just like, we're not going to do this. | ||
| And shuts off. | ||
| Yeah, just shuts off early to protect you. | ||
| I also think there's a certain level where they're that great, and you look at like a Tiger Woods or Mike Tyson, when that foundation gets a little shaky, they're just never the same. | ||
| Yeah, that's true too. | ||
| It's just never, they're like, I'm not God's gift to the UFC. Exactly. | ||
| No, the MMA gods don't give a shit. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And then, like we said, even if she was undefeated and she fought Nunes, Nunes is going to give her problems. | ||
| Because if you watch the Misha Tate fight, Misha Tate, even though she beat Misha Tate twice, Misha Tate gave her a hard time. | ||
| There's some good scrambles. | ||
| Misha Tate hit her with some punches. | ||
| If Amanda hits you with punches like that, you're fucked. | ||
| You can't make mistakes. | ||
| You're in trouble. | ||
| In a lot of ways, she's like a female Rumble. | ||
| She might not be able to close the show with one shot like Rumble can, but if you make mistakes, you get stung so bad. | ||
| Sarah McMahon fights a perfect example. | ||
| She cracks Sarah with her right hand. | ||
| Her whole face is like, what? | ||
| Nobody hits them like that. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| And she's long. | ||
| Amanda catches you on the end of those punches, too. | ||
| She's great at distance. | ||
| I also think that the game's evolving so fast where Amanda, all she cares about is being champ. | ||
| All she does is train. | ||
| That's the only thing she gives a fuck about. | ||
| I think we saw the same thing in the Dominick Cruz Cody Garbrandt fight. | ||
| All Cody wants to do is be champ. | ||
| Dominick's doing analyst work. | ||
| He is. | ||
| So I think there's this kind of change of hands right now where you're seeing these guys who are all in. | ||
| And that's what you have to do to be in this game in this day and age. | ||
| Guys are too good. | ||
| They're too good now. | ||
| I think you're dead right. | ||
| I think you're dead right about that. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| We'll watch the whole thing live now. | ||
| Give us a volume, Young Jamie. | ||
| So here it is. | ||
| So that jab landed with 5 seconds. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Jab right there. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| She stung her right there. | ||
| 1-2-2 there. | ||
| 1-2-2. | ||
| Yeah, see? | ||
| So she stung 10 seconds in. | ||
| We're at 4.43. | ||
| We're 15 seconds in. | ||
| And she's already right there. | ||
| She's fucked. | ||
| Right there, she's fucked. | ||
| That was a super hard right hand. | ||
| Super fucked. | ||
| And this is bad. | ||
| This is real bad. | ||
| It's hard to watch. | ||
| It's real hard to watch. | ||
| Hard to watch. | ||
| Boom to the body, too. | ||
| She ripped that shot to the body. | ||
| So, like, the idea that she didn't want to be there, ten seconds into the fight, she didn't know what the fuck was going on. | ||
| Oh, that left hook in the right hand, and then that right hand behind it. | ||
| This is horrific, man. | ||
| It's tough to watch. | ||
| Boom, boom, boom. | ||
| God damn. | ||
| Good stoppage by Herb. | ||
| Great stoppage, but goddamn Amanda Nunes is good. | ||
| She put a finger up to her mouth, walked right up to Edmund, looked at him and went... | ||
| So gangster. | ||
| So gangster. | ||
| Rhonda's still standing. | ||
| She's in another dimension. | ||
| There's no doubt about she's got heart. | ||
| There's no doubt about she's tough. | ||
| And also she's got that thick old neck. | ||
| That helps. | ||
| Look how long Amanda's arms are. | ||
| She's great at keeping distance and not crowding herself. | ||
| Well, Amanda has wide shoulders, and that helps too, and then long arms as well. | ||
| And she's got awesome distance, man. | ||
| Her ability to catch you at the very end of the punches where all the power is. | ||
| Because if you're punching someone and you want to hit them here, but they just move forward a foot, you lose like 90% of your power. | ||
| Do you think Amanda can fight guys at 135? | ||
| Well, bad guys. | ||
| Not good guys? | ||
| No, not like the super high-level guys. | ||
| She's not going to beat TJ Dillashaw. | ||
| What about top 10? | ||
| No, it's changed now, man. | ||
| I think if you asked me that same question three or four years ago, I'd have a different answer. | ||
| But that division is so stacked now. | ||
| It's like when 135 first opened up, In the UFC, there wasn't as many guys that were that elite. | ||
| Even to watch the guys who were really good improve. | ||
| You saw the Cody fight where he was fucking fantastic against Dominic, but how goddamn good did TJ look against Lineker? | ||
| Completely nullified Lineker. | ||
| Nullified him. | ||
| Lineker, he's like one of the best examples of a guy with absolutely freakish physical attributes. | ||
| A fucking iron jaw. | ||
| Iron jaw. | ||
| I've never even seen the guy get hurt. | ||
| He gets hit by everybody. | ||
| He gets head kicked. | ||
| He gets punched. | ||
| Rob Font said he hit him with the hardest punch he ever hit anybody with in his life. | ||
| And he goes, he didn't even acknowledge that he hit him. | ||
| He just walked right forward. | ||
| He said he hit him with a body shot. | ||
| Felt like he got hit by a car. | ||
| He didn't look like that. | ||
| Lineker, I don't think that same Lineker showed up on Friday night. | ||
| TJ nullified him. | ||
| He didn't have a chance. | ||
| He did, but Lineker was very hesitant. | ||
| And I think it was because of TJ's, the way he was fighting him with the feints, the takedowns, the kicks, and throwing that head kick to the body kick. | ||
| But he was very tentative. | ||
| Super tentative. | ||
| He got out beat. | ||
| He threw him in the truck, almost had him in a cap slicer. | ||
| I thought he was going to go for the twister. | ||
| I was like, oh my god, if he goes to the twister, but he went for the calf slicer, but I'm like, I looked at him like, he's not going to tap to that. | ||
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It's just pain. | |
| He needed to stomp down. | ||
| TJ looked amazing. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Yeah, and the timing and those takedowns, like lightning bolts. | ||
| Like, it looks like he's throwing a punch and he's underneath you. | ||
| It was so nasty. | ||
| He's so fast, man. | ||
| But god... | ||
| Damn, Cody Garbrandt. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| And I'll admit, I said, I think Cody's going to be champ, just not yet. | ||
| He's going to be your champ, but he's not ready for Dom yet. | ||
| Then I opened him around, I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| He's mimicking him. | ||
| He's doing breakdancing. | ||
| He's doing pushups and shit. | ||
| He fucked with Dominic's head. | ||
| And that was one of the things that I was thinking of. | ||
| This kid's been in a lot of street fights. | ||
| I don't know if this trash talk is going to work on him the way it works on other guys. | ||
| He said he was fine in there. | ||
| I asked him about it. | ||
| He's like, I like that. | ||
| He goes, I feel calm. | ||
| He goes, I know I can stay calm when that's going on. | ||
| And I think he's just like this young, hungry dude who, he took it personal. | ||
| And a lot of guys get real emotional, and I was worried that Cody would come out super emotional and just get murked, like taken down. | ||
| You know how the real emotional, like Aldo did against McGregor, who just forgets about his technique and rushes and gets murked? | ||
| But dude, he just took all that and the best performance. | ||
| I mean, can you name another performance like that where a guy... | ||
| Remember, he was even number one contender. | ||
| He was five or six in the world. | ||
| I think he was eight. | ||
| Was he eight? | ||
| I thought he moved to six. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| That might have been some shenanigans. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| Who knows with the Cheeto finger rankings. | ||
| But still, motherfucker went from five, six, rank number one. | ||
| And you're like, God, that's a big stretch. | ||
| And beat him handily. | ||
| It wasn't a close decision. | ||
| Dom won one round. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I love Domi when one around. | ||
| And Cody dropped him, hurt him. | ||
| We still don't exactly know where the cut came from. | ||
| Some people are saying it came from a punch. | ||
| I heard people online say it came from a kick. | ||
| Definitely not a headbutt. | ||
| The guys in the truck said it was a headbutt. | ||
| Your truck boys were off. | ||
| Because I heard when they said that, I'm like, what the fuck are they watching? | ||
| Yeah, they pulled it up for me. | ||
| But it's hard. | ||
| See, while the fight's going on, they'll do that and they'll tell me it's a headbutt. | ||
| And see, I have two monitors in front of me. | ||
| I have one right here and then I have one over the side. | ||
| And they'll say, like, look on monitor B. And then they'll show it to me. | ||
| But I can't really... | ||
| It's hard for me to do that while I'm watching the actual fight. | ||
| You know, so they'll show it to me. | ||
| And usually I just take their word for it. | ||
| But occasionally it gets... | ||
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That's fair. | |
| But I think in the replay that they showed, maybe they saw it different and didn't show the correct one. | ||
| The replay that they showed, it definitely wasn't a headbutt. | ||
| Well, they definitely did collide heads. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And so who knows? | ||
| It was hard to tell. | ||
| But who gives a fuck? | ||
| Either way. | ||
| It was a big-ass cut. | ||
| Big-ass cut on Dom's eyebrow. | ||
| And he got drunk. | ||
| How good is Dominic Cruz took a punch, too, by the way? | ||
| His chin? | ||
| He gets cracked. | ||
| His legs go stiff. | ||
| He goes down. | ||
| And a couple times, Cody acted almost like he wasn't going to follow him to the ground and beat on him on the ground and almost acted like he was done. | ||
| He's like calling him up or like a Mark Hunt kind of walk-off KO. You better get on him, son. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Didn't even make an attempt to get on him. | ||
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That's weird, right? | |
| Well, maybe he doesn't want to have anything to do with the ground. | ||
| Maybe he feels like that's where Dominic might have a chance. | ||
| Goddamn, it's not Bouchesha down there. | ||
| Relax, son. | ||
| I don't know what Dominic Cruz's ground game is like. | ||
| I thought he just wanted to punish him, too, maybe. | ||
| Does Dominic Cruz have any submissions? | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| Dominic Cruz is really good on the ground. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, hell yeah. | ||
| But I mean, on his record, does he have any submissions? | ||
| Yeah, he has submissions, usually from guillotines, though. | ||
| Back in the day, WC. His jiu-jitsu's really good, trust me. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| You trained with him? | ||
| He's a black belt for sure. | ||
| I've seen him compete. | ||
| In jiu-jitsu tournaments? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he wrestled as well. | ||
| He's a wrestler. | ||
| But for a guy not to go down in his guard, that's some shit. | ||
| That's like some Conor McGregor-Dia shit where you're like, I can lose too easily down there. | ||
| Well, I mean, it might not have been that at all. | ||
| It might have been even more simple. | ||
| That's a lost, Jamie. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Rear naked. | ||
| Yeah, so he's got a rear naked there. | ||
| He's got one rear naked. | ||
| He's not known for his guard, though, Joe. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Well, who knows? | ||
| You still don't know what he could do, but the bottom line was Cody wanted to keep the fight standing. | ||
| I think he just wanted to punish him. | ||
| He might have thought it was over. | ||
| He might have thought the fight was over. | ||
| He seemed to, the answer for Dominic, I mean at least it worked for Cody, was it or was it not, I'm no striker, that he made Dominic come to him, and it's different when... | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Is that what it was? | ||
| Well, sort of, but it's also you've got to give credit to his team. | ||
| See, Justin Buchholz and those guys have been imitating, they've fought Dom so many times. | ||
| Six times? | ||
| They can imitate his movements. | ||
| So they can mimic his shit. | ||
| So when they're sparring, they do that fake, that false start. | ||
| Because Dom does this thing where he false starts, and then he starts. | ||
| And you never know which one's going to be a kick. | ||
| It's a lot of patterns that Dom throws up. | ||
| So they figured out how to do that, and they mimicked it. | ||
| And they watched him so many times that they can get it down to a tee. | ||
| And Cody didn't buy into the feints. | ||
| He was like, come on, come in within this range. | ||
| And he kept baiting them and baiting them and they'd make it count. | ||
| Yeah, the bottom line is if his brain's not confused and he just knows that in these exchanges Dom's going to be there and he's going to do some, you know, he's got some really unpredictable movement, Dom does, but he does like a bunch of things a lot. | ||
| And then commits. | ||
| Yeah, and so he timed those things and caught them with some fucking vicious punches, man. | ||
| Yeah, Dom fights a lot of guys and they're like, what the fuck? | ||
| It's like that Chris Tucker movie where you get in the face like, alright, which one of y'all kicked me? | ||
| And you don't know where it's coming from, but Garbrandt just never bought it. | ||
| He was like, I'm just going to wait for you to commit. | ||
| You can do all that jazz and I'm just going to wait right here. | ||
| It's also a guy's been boxing when he was real young. | ||
| That's what we were talking about last night. | ||
| He was 32-2 amateur record. | ||
| You look at that, you're like, ah. | ||
| But in the UFC, compared to other fighters, that boxing comes in handy. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| He was catching... | ||
| Cody was catching Dominic Cruz on the way out. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Which that's... | ||
| A lot of people don't catch him on the way out. | ||
| Never see it. | ||
| No. | ||
| He was catching him on the way out. | ||
| Bop! | ||
| And the speed and precision of those punches. | ||
| And the power. | ||
| Glorious. | ||
| For five rounds. | ||
| And then people forget Cody in high school. | ||
| I think he was first team All-State out of Ohio, which is a big deal out there. | ||
| He had scholarships compete in Division I wrestling. | ||
| He was like, nah, I'm just going to fight professionally full-time. | ||
| That's what kind of stud you're dealing with. | ||
| And his uncle was an alternate for the Olympic boxing team. | ||
| So, I mean, he comes from a long line of just savages, too. | ||
| Pretty crazy. | ||
| Yeah, his countdown piece was pretty amazing. | ||
| I didn't see it. | ||
| I wish that fighters appreciate the science of boxing more. | ||
| When GSP, one of those fights he trained with Freddie Roach, and he came back with that fucking jab, it made waves, but a lot of people didn't copy that. | ||
| Arlovsky did first and was like, nah, let's just go boosh! | ||
| You know, he's like, holy shit. | ||
| Amanda Nunes did. | ||
| Amanda Nunes, boxing trainer, is Howard Davis' son in American Top Team, so she's... | ||
| I don't know why people don't incorporate that that much more. | ||
| Like, that's just so much to learn. | ||
| You said there's three levels of striking, pretty much. | ||
| In the UFC, you know, we had a discussion last night when the jiu-jitsu guy, 170, came in. | ||
| You know, he came in. | ||
| He was a great jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
| He won a, what's his name? | ||
| The guy that triangled Chael from the top? | ||
| Damien Maia. | ||
| Damien Maia. | ||
| That guy came in. | ||
| He won the first couple matches jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Then somebody told him he was a boxer. | ||
| And he started getting lit up. | ||
| And now he's fucking back to just, hit me once, I'm gonna grab your leg and it's over. | ||
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That could be Rhonda. | |
| That could be Rhonda. | ||
| If Rhonda just said, okay, I'm gonna take a gear off, I'm gonna go to the Olympic wrestling facility, Wherever. | ||
| Just focus on wrestling. | ||
| Still work on your striking goal with Dwayne Ludwig. | ||
| That would be awesome. | ||
| Or Rafael Cordero. | ||
| Mix it up. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You've got to change shit up now, obviously. | ||
| But wrestling should be the focus. | ||
| When you see a Ronda Rousey promo, you shouldn't see her hitting mitts. | ||
| You should see her shooting, getting the clinch, double leg takedowns, singles. | ||
| It should be wrestling every day, twice a day. | ||
| But think about her camp. | ||
| Her whole camp, it's just a boxing gym. | ||
| Her head coach is a boxing coach, so they want her to be this boxer. | ||
| People sold her as the next Mike Tyson. | ||
| So you have all that coming. | ||
| And she was Merkin Girls, remember? | ||
| I was on board too. | ||
| I'm like, damn, we're striking. | ||
| She's knocking bitches out. | ||
| It's the level. | ||
| It's like, what's the level she's knocking them out at? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think the media and a lot of people are like, dang, she's a knockout artist. | ||
| So you hear those. | ||
| And her camp's going, you're a knockout artist. | ||
| She can strike with anyone. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And her coach, like, look, that was always the case. | ||
| You remember when Gerald fought in the UFC? It was always the case when Gerald was a... | ||
| Was he a black belt back then or a brown belt? | ||
| No, he was a brown belt. | ||
| Really good jiu-jitsu guy, though. | ||
| But his fucking striking coach had him convinced that he was a Thai boxer. | ||
| He's like, you're going to go out there and get a kick. | ||
| And I remember Eddie and I would watch him hit the bag and hit the mitts and stuff. | ||
| And I was like, man, there are some scary guys in the UFC. And he got a real scary one in Josh Thompson. | ||
| Josh Thompson was like, yep, none of that. | ||
| Crack! | ||
| No, no, it didn't go down like that. | ||
| What ended up happening is Gerald's jiu-jitsu is Gerald Streben, as we're talking about. | ||
| He was my first student. | ||
| Before 10th Planet, I was teaching jiu-jitsu to a guy named Gerald Streben. | ||
| He was a blue belt at the time. | ||
| And I brought him up, showed him up. | ||
| He got really good at the Twister, really good at rubber guard. | ||
| First meat hook rubber guard triangle in MMA history in a Gladiator Challenge show. | ||
| He was kicking ass and then he fought Jean Silva in England, in London, and it was a spectacular match. | ||
| Joe showed that fight to Dana White. | ||
| Dana White gave a shot, gave Josh Thompson, boom, right off the bat. | ||
| He started working Muay Thai with this Muay Thai coach, and it was six months. | ||
| He was training six months with them, right? | ||
| And he wrestled in high school as well, so he'd been grappling total at that point. | ||
| Is that Joey? | ||
| What are you breathing into the mic? | ||
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I'm hearing some For sure, Joe Are you kidding me? | |
| I was confusing my head It sounded like a submarine I hear it too Submarine, right? | ||
| But anyways And it's an interesting point I was just thinking about this. | ||
| It's the exact same thing. | ||
| It's when I'm when a striking like let's say I got A striker. | ||
| Muay Thai came in. | ||
| He'd been doing Muay Thai for 10 years and he wanted to learn the ground. | ||
| And he was doing MMA. He's already fighting MMA. Comes up a lot. | ||
| I'm gonna show him Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| I'm gonna be in his corner. | ||
| I'm not gonna be telling him to take his ass down and work your fucking Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| Pull a guard! | ||
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It's been six months, let's relax. | |
| What I want to see is that dude win with his Muay Thai and it gives me another fight to get his jiu-jitsu again. | ||
| The longer we avoid the jiu-jitsu, in my eyes, the better. | ||
| We got away with another one. | ||
| Now we have another four or five months to work on the jiu-jitsu. | ||
| That's a good way of looking at it. | ||
| But there's a lot of striking coaches out there that'll take some grappler in, teach him striking for six months, and then corner him in an MMA fight and instruct him to stand with this motherfucker. | ||
| Do you remember what he said? | ||
| And I gotta pull the guy to the side and say, dude, don't listen to this guy. | ||
| You're not standing with this motherfucker. | ||
| Do you remember what he said? | ||
| You know how many times I had to say that to my guys? | ||
| I go, don't listen to this motherfucker. | ||
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Always. | |
| You're taking this I remember what he said. | ||
| Do you remember what he said to him? | ||
| He's Bangkok ready. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| In six months, he said it was Bangkok ready. | ||
| He's going to go out there. | ||
| What? | ||
| This is what ends up happening. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| It was a good thing. | ||
| It's a good thing because this is what happened. | ||
| He had him so believing that he was Bangkok ready after six months of Muay Thai that when he did the walkout on the UFC, he came out... | ||
| Dude, with the Muay Thai thing? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Dude, with the Muay Thai headband. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| A bicep bracelet or whatever the fuck they are. | ||
| Oh yeah, traditional shit. | ||
| Dude, full Muay Thai garb dancing and doing the Muay Thai thing. | ||
| He was in the octagon and did, you know, he went around the octagon and blessed like each. | ||
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Doing this? | |
| Yes, doing that. | ||
| Doing this? | ||
| And Josh Thompson's sitting there, and I talked to Josh Thompson since then. | ||
| Josh Thompson wrestled in high school, and he's a really good striker. | ||
| He was fucking up people off his back. | ||
| He was triangling people. | ||
| We knew all about Josh Thompson. | ||
| Gerald was not, you know, he was not in the best frame of mind for that fight. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Because Josh Thompson was a fucking killer back then. | ||
| He was a killer. | ||
| Well, he was in his prime back then. | ||
| That was Josh when he was one of the top... | ||
| Like five or six guys in the division before the UFC. Before the UFC got rid of the 155-pound division, it was him and Eve Edwards. | ||
| And Eve Edwards knocked him out. | ||
| That was like Eve Edwards became the uncrowned king. | ||
| So this is what happened. | ||
| So luckily, and this is according to Josh Thompson. | ||
| Josh goes, dude, I was so worried about his standup. | ||
| Based on that Muay Thai ritual stuff, that when we saw the fight, my whole thing was how are we possibly... | ||
| No, no. | ||
| The whole thing was for sure Josh Thompson's not gonna want to go to the ground with Gerald. | ||
| That's where all his good shit is. | ||
| He's fucking people up in MMA. All his fights up until the UFC was fucking people up with his jiu-jitsu. | ||
| So how are we gonna get the fight to the ground? | ||
| We were thinking about pulling an elaborate, unorthodox guard pull. | ||
| How are we gonna do it? | ||
| That's what I was thinking. | ||
| I go, because six months, I go, I know he thinks he's Bangkok ready. | ||
| That's six months, man. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's a great t-shirt. | ||
| So Josh takes him down, and I'm sitting there thinking, what the fuck? | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| He takes Gerald down because he's so worried about his Muay Thai. | ||
| And Gerald... | ||
| Dude, right away throws up a hellfire with his guard. | ||
| He threw a lot of heat. | ||
| It was pretty badass to see. | ||
| But at the end of the day, first, he almost had him in an armbar. | ||
| Josh pulls out. | ||
| And then there's like a scramble on the ground. | ||
| Gerald goes for a leg lock because he finally pulls out of his guard. | ||
| And then Gerald was really good at leg locks. | ||
| And he went for a leg lock. | ||
| And then Josh Thompson hit him like in the back of the head and knocked him out. | ||
| Josh is a killer. | ||
| Yeah, that was one of those going for leg locks is risky. | ||
| What started this all off? | ||
| Those coaches that get these fucking people convinced that they're a killer in one particular area. | ||
| You see it in every camp, though, because in every camp, especially if you have a superstar camp, This is coming from my own personal experience. | ||
| You have a superstar wrestling coach, boxing coach, jiu-jitsu coach. | ||
| You're spending your time with them. | ||
| They want to see you win with their shit. | ||
| With their shit. | ||
| And it's nice. | ||
| You see the way... | ||
| Tossed them off. | ||
| The W should be number fucking one. | ||
| It's nice when they win with some shit, of course. | ||
| Like, fuck that. | ||
| Like, you showed me that shit. | ||
| That's always good. | ||
| But it's all about the goddamn W. That's number fucking one. | ||
| That's why you gotta have, like, a head coach. | ||
| You gotta have a head coach that's not a striking coach, not a jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Like a head coach. | ||
| Like a Matt Hume. | ||
| That's a head coach. | ||
| You know, like when he works with DJ, they do everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, they work on submissions together, spar together. | ||
| They work on all these different techniques. | ||
| And it's total technique and tactics oriented conversations and training sessions. | ||
| How many Matt Humes are there though in the world? | ||
| There's like five. | ||
| If that. | ||
| But only one. | ||
| If that. | ||
| Honestly, it's like in my mind, it's like he, if he's not number one, it's him and Faraz Ahabi. | ||
| I count two that can do it all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That really know the game in and out, can do a game plan from standing to wrestling to grappling. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think one guy might be better for you, one guy might be better for the other, but those are the top dogs. | ||
| There's two. | ||
| Because there's such wizards on the ground, and they can physically do it too. | ||
| That's like a big part of it. | ||
| And plus they know the transition. | ||
| Sometimes if you go to a pure jiu-jitsu guy, you're like, dude, this isn't going to work. | ||
| If I commit both hands to this, I'm going to get blasts in the face. | ||
| Do you remember when George Grigel, he was a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu back when there was very few black belts, but then he wanted to stand and bang with everybody. | ||
| And that was his thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Became his thing. | ||
| Standing and banging. | ||
| And that happens so often. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| And it's so rare that a guy comes back and figures it out like Damien Maia house. | ||
| Damien Maia tried it that way for a while. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Got sucked into it. | ||
| And then he figured it out. | ||
| And that's exactly what Rhonda should do. | ||
| What's that expression? | ||
| You go to the dance, what took you to there? | ||
| What's that expression? | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know what you're trying to say. | ||
| And what happens is, a lot of early, I saw a lot of high-level jiu-jitsu guys come into the UFC that their hands are men's amends. | ||
| It's like a three striking, and they never evolved to that. | ||
| Now, the fucking striking is evolving quick. | ||
| Look at Jacare. | ||
| Quick, Jacare. | ||
| It used to be that the only black belts that got to the UFC were guys that only dedicated their lives to Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| They just started learning striking. | ||
| You could tell. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| They're just trying to fucking get some kind of clinch. | ||
| It's obvious. | ||
| But now, there's so many goddamn black belts in Brazil now that it's all about, you know, here's 100 black belts in the camp. | ||
| We're only going to take the best strikers, like the fierce ones. | ||
| You know, the days of pure jiu-jitsu guys coming out and looking like this, they're long gone now. | ||
| You can't get through the minor leagues with striking like that. | ||
| Well, in a way, your attitude is like, I got this. | ||
| My first three years in comedy, I didn't write shit. | ||
| I would just go up on stage and do that New York shit. | ||
| What do you do for a living? | ||
| Yeah, it was 50-50. | ||
| What do you do for a living? | ||
| You do this. | ||
| I got really good at it, but I couldn't make a living doing that. | ||
| If I'm bombing, I could fall back to that shit and rock the house. | ||
| I don't work that muscle anymore. | ||
| Do you know what I'm saying? | ||
| When I first started comedy, I had to go on stage every Tuesday in front of the same fucking people. | ||
| So you had to write a new five minutes. | ||
| For two years, I did that. | ||
| There was some weeks I couldn't do it. | ||
| So I just decided just to improvise. | ||
| I got so good at improvising. | ||
| By the time I got to Seattle and started featuring, I was a really good improviser. | ||
| So what are you saying about how does this equate to fighting? | ||
| I don't improvise no more because I got it! | ||
| When you first met me at the store 15 years ago, I would go on stage and do seven minutes of material, and the rest was improvising. | ||
| I thought it was cool. | ||
| It was chic, and when it works, it works. | ||
| But when it doesn't work, it's a nightmare. | ||
| But I'm pretty good at it. | ||
| I can really improvise pretty good. | ||
| Do I still do it today? | ||
| No. | ||
| Because you have to evolve. | ||
| I can fall back on it, dog. | ||
| I can fall back on my wrestling. | ||
| That's my wrestling. | ||
| That's my pedigree. | ||
| When I call you and I make you laugh on the phone, it's like that. | ||
| I didn't call you with a script. | ||
| When I call you, me and you are talking about something. | ||
| That's not a script. | ||
| That's me and you driving, getting excited. | ||
| I got that pedigree. | ||
| I could rock that pedigree, but that pedigree isn't going to take me to the next level. | ||
| You have to sit, and you have to write, and you have to evolve different things. | ||
| So I think that when I'm a wrestler, okay, I'm a black belt in jiu-jitsu. | ||
| I've been doing this since I was 18. I'm fucking 31 now. | ||
| I've won Abu Dhabi, Dubu Dhabi, Nogi Pan-Americans. | ||
| I got this. | ||
| I got this, Joe! | ||
| Yeah, I think there's two different styles of winners. | ||
| There's the all-around guy like DJ, and then there's a guy like Anderson Silva that really... | ||
| I mean, he might submit people, but it's so rare. | ||
| And when he submitted Chael Sonnen, it's almost like Chael Sonnen gave it to him. | ||
| I mean, that fucking armbar triangle combination wasn't even locked in. | ||
| It wasn't even locked in. | ||
| I mean, it was kind of over the calf a little. | ||
| It wasn't clamped down. | ||
| I mean, maybe Chael was so exhausted that he had a tap, but... | ||
| Honestly, if you ask him, he was pretty honest about having mental breakdowns in fights. | ||
| He did it with Paulo Filho. | ||
| Remember the same thing? | ||
| Chael said in the Anderson Silva fight, though, he said going in, he goes, I know I'm going to get submitted. | ||
| I'm going to get submitted. | ||
| So when he was taken down, he's in his guard for like three minutes. | ||
| He's going, it's just a matter of time. | ||
| He's going to catch me. | ||
| He's going to catch me. | ||
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Against two? | |
| Against Anderson Silva. | ||
| Well, he had been submitted a few times in fights that he was winning. | ||
| The whole thing is weird. | ||
| But my point is, Anderson's never been a great jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
| He's a good black belt. | ||
| He tapped out Dan Henderson. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| He beat the fuck out of him before he tapped him. | ||
| But he rocked him. | ||
| It was a beautiful technique. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| He did get his back and choke him out. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I disagree with you on that triangle. | ||
| That triangle was legit as hell. | ||
| Let's look at it. | ||
| Chael Sonnen versus Anderson Silva Triangle. | ||
| If I remember it correctly, it wasn't fully locked in. | ||
| There was a little bit of space. | ||
| It doesn't have to be fully locked in. | ||
| It all depends on how much you're squeezing and leg curling. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| And he has long legs, so dudes with long legs leave openings. | ||
| To Joe's point, though, he was exhausted. | ||
| But my point is, Anderson Silva's a goddamn specialist. | ||
| His specialty is Muay Thai. | ||
| His specialty is striking. | ||
| When you look at Anderson Silva's highlight reels, it's that front kick to the face on Vitor. | ||
| It's that fucking knee to the body on Stefan Bonner. | ||
| That's his gift. | ||
| So here it is. | ||
| Jale's beating the brakes off him at this point. | ||
| Yeah, this is... | ||
| Jale had a beautiful double, didn't he? | ||
| Yeah, he really did. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| He drove in so hard on that double. | ||
| He takes him down. | ||
| Shit, he fights in a couple weeks. | ||
| This is the fourth round. | ||
| Let's go to the end of the fight. | ||
| Okay, let's see this. | ||
| This is where Chael stands up and sits back. | ||
| That's tight as fuck, dude. | ||
| Let me see. | ||
| That's tight as fuck. | ||
| Oh, that's tight as fuck. | ||
| That's a lot tighter than I thought. | ||
| Well, when he finally got the arm bar, he opened up the leg. | ||
| Yeah, that's what it is. | ||
| It looked like he was about to swing the leg over the head. | ||
| I haven't seen that in a while. | ||
| Go back to that again. | ||
| But right there, it's tight as fuck. | ||
| That's pretty goddamn tight. | ||
| Look, right there. | ||
| That's tight. | ||
| I take it back, Chael. | ||
| Right when he gets the arm, that's when he opens it up. | ||
| Now it's a different thing. | ||
| Now it's an arm bar. | ||
| Yeah, there he opens it up. | ||
| Yep, that's right. | ||
| So, my point being, like, the best guys at one particular thing are pretty rare. | ||
| Like, the guys like an Anderson that is just so elite at striking that nobody wants to strike with him. | ||
| Or a guy like Damian Maia, so elite at jiu-jitsu that he makes guys like Carlos Condit look like they have no idea what they're doing. | ||
| He gets you on the ground and he makes you look like a white belt. | ||
| So there's that kind of guy that can do that. | ||
| Or there's a guy like Mighty Mouse that... | ||
| Mighty Mouse... | ||
| Although he's got really good submissions, you're not going to see that style. | ||
| He's not going to be able to submit the best jiu-jitsu guys in the world at 125 pounds, most likely, in a jiu-jitsu match. | ||
| Damian Maia probably could. | ||
| Damian Maia has the potential to beat pretty much anybody he rolls with on the mat in an actual straight-up jiu-jitsu match. | ||
| So you have two different styles. | ||
| You have that style of winner, which he's never won the title, and there's only a few guys like Anderson that have. | ||
| And Anderson... | ||
| In all due fairness, he won it, like what, in 2005? | ||
| Was that when Anderson became the champ? | ||
| Somewhere around there in the UFC? That might as well be 30 years ago. | ||
| It's a totally different class of fighter. | ||
| The evolution of the game is so fast now. | ||
| Four years ago, we were in leather helmets. | ||
| Like I would love to watch Tyron Woodley versus Damian Maia. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| I would love to watch it. | ||
| That to me is maybe one of the most interesting fights on the horizon for me. | ||
| So far Damian Maia has been able to take down wrestlers at 170. He's been able to take them all down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like easy and just with beautiful technique. | ||
| But can he do that to Woodley? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You got to go through the storm. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The storm of fucking meteors coming your way that Woodley drops on you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he's the most dangerous in that first round when you're trying to take him down, you're closing the distance on him, and you haven't figured out how fast he is yet. | ||
| He doesn't just hit hard. | ||
| He's fucking fast. | ||
| I saw some rumor, I'm sure, but Bisping was talking about it. | ||
| Him and Woodley agreeing to a super fight at 180. Really? | ||
| Bisping and Woodley. | ||
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Really? | |
| When did they agree to this? | ||
| I was talking to my brother this morning. | ||
| He was like, you see Woodley and Bisping? | ||
| Want to do that catchweight at 180? | ||
| I'm like, what? | ||
| That's an interesting fight. | ||
| First of all, can Bisping make that healthy? | ||
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That's what I was thinking, because I feel like 85 is a tough cut for him. | |
| Remember when he used to fight 205? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| He won the Ultimate Fighter at 205. Wow, that's an interesting fight. | ||
| Well, I think what Woodley wants is that big payday. | ||
| How could you not? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he's campaigning for it. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Mike Bisbee and Tylan Woodley agree to catch a weight bout. | ||
| This is legit? | ||
| So this just happened today? | ||
| That's on the internet. | ||
| What is the name of the lowkickmma.com? | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| That's Bisbee's Instagram? | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| Gangster weight, as Chael Sonnen calls it. | ||
| Yeah, I like it. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| But to your point, Woodley just wants a big fight for a lucrative payday. | ||
| He wants the biggest name possible to get paid. | ||
| Yeah, smart. | ||
| That's the name of the game. | ||
| Yeah, and Anderson has still been calling for a rematch with Bisping too, because his fight with Bisping was so fucking close in England, he feels like he beat him. | ||
| That was one of the craziest situations ever. | ||
| That was so weird. | ||
| He hits him with that flying knee, KOs him. | ||
| I mean, Bisping was out. | ||
| He went out. | ||
| He dropped. | ||
| And Anderson does a walk-off KO, and they go, eh, not so quick. | ||
| It was so weird. | ||
| It was so weird. | ||
| Watch that. | ||
| Get a video of that. | ||
| Because remember, Bisping takes a break because his mouthpiece falls out, and he's talking to the ref, and Anderson goes, yeah! | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| He was trying to get the referee's attention, and Anderson flying-kneed him in the face. | ||
| And wasn't the ref, like, coming in to stop it? | ||
| Then Anderson did that flying-kneed? | ||
| That's why the ref was like, hold up. | ||
| No, that doesn't count. | ||
| Yeah, let's look at that. | ||
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| It was a very weird scenario. | ||
| Bisping boxed his fucking face off, though. | ||
| Yeah, like he's saying something. | ||
| It's Herb Dean. | ||
| Look, he's like, right there, right there. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| That was also the end of the round, too, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Look at this again. | ||
| He's like, hey, let me get my mouthpiece. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
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Boom! | |
| That is such a crazy drop, too, the way he get hit. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I think he would have thrown the knee regardless, whether he looked to the side or not. | ||
| I think he would have thrown it regardless. | ||
| And it wasn't like Bisping put his hands down. | ||
| He looked over, but he was still covered up. | ||
| Here's the crazy thing. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| I think he was a little distracted there, for sure. | ||
| Here's the crazy thing. | ||
| Bisping comes back and wins that fucking fight and boxes his face off. | ||
| How's he win that next round? | ||
| I think that was the third round, right? | ||
| He comes out that fourth round and boxes his face off. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Like a fucking kangaroo. | ||
| Crazy recovery. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| His cardio is insane. | ||
| Yeah, because most people get hit like that, that's it, man. | ||
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| Yeah, it's game over. | ||
| I mean, his body shut off and he dropped like gravity. | ||
| Give us a second. | ||
| And we're back, Box. | ||
| Is he partially blind in one eye or completely? | ||
| Partially, yeah. | ||
| But he can still sort of see. | ||
| He's crooked as fuck. | ||
| He can see enough where they let him fight. | ||
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| I mean, he does those eye tests. | ||
| They have to do eye tests. | ||
| Apparently what they did is they put some kind of oil in his eye, and that oil protects his retina somehow or another, and that's why it looks so crazy. | ||
| And once he's done fighting, then they'll fix it. | ||
| But the problem is, if he gets it fixed now, and then he goes and fights again and tears it even worse. | ||
| And then the other thing is, the more time he waits, the more advanced all this stem cell shit is getting. | ||
| They brought someone's vision back with stem cells. | ||
| A blind guy, right? | ||
| Yeah, someone was blind and they injected stem cells in this guy's eye and brought his vision back. | ||
| And that's today, 2017. What's it going to be like five, six, seven years down the line? | ||
| I mean, he's going to be retired by then, though. | ||
| I would hope he'd be retired in three or four. | ||
| I mean, I think he's 39 now, right? | ||
| How old is Michael? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He might not be that old. | ||
| I might be upping him up a bit. | ||
| Would you say 36? | ||
| He might be 36. He might be 36, 37. 37. I don't think he has three years left. | ||
| Well, he might. | ||
| Look, the guy's so fucking game. | ||
| You know, Michael Bisping does not have any extraordinary physical attributes. | ||
| Not that he's not a great athlete. | ||
| He certainly is. | ||
| Not that he's not a very good fighter. | ||
| He certainly is. | ||
| Cardio. | ||
| If you look at a guy like Rumble, extraordinary physical attributes. | ||
| John Lineker, extraordinary physical attributes. | ||
| What Michael Bisping has is just toughness. | ||
| Just game as fuck, toughness. | ||
| Knock him out, he comes back, and he just keeps coming back. | ||
| He has no quit. | ||
| He has no quit. | ||
| And he has great cardio. | ||
| He has no quit. | ||
| Amazing cardio. | ||
| Ryan Parson says in the gym, he said he's never seen a guy that hates getting tapped and hates losing, exchanges more than Michael Pittsburgh. | ||
| I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| Even just, you know how you do your normal warm-up, like if you're doing underhooks, he's going 100% nonstop. | ||
| Like how the fuck? | ||
| Slow down, son. | ||
| I want him the title, man. | ||
| I want him the fucking title. | ||
| And he gets better and better. | ||
| You watch him improve fight. | ||
| Look at his boxing. | ||
| His boxing's ridiculous, man. | ||
| He outboxed Anderson Silva. | ||
| Knocked out Luke Rockhold. | ||
| Luke Rockhold looked disdainful in that fight. | ||
| Like, come on, man. | ||
| He was pissed. | ||
| He had to show up for that fight. | ||
| Yeah, he was like disdainful that that was his challenge. | ||
| And he got murked. | ||
| And he got murked. | ||
| And Bisping was shooting XXX19 in Toronto. | ||
| I was like, huh? | ||
| Y'all be down there in four days. | ||
| Deuce, world champ! | ||
| What a great fucking story! | ||
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It's the best story. | |
| And you've been fighting for ten years! | ||
| The best story. | ||
| I fucking love Bisping. | ||
| And then beats Dan Henderson in a close decision for this fucking fight. | ||
| That was a fucking fight. | ||
| You forget about that fight when we talk about fights of the year. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| That fight was so good. | ||
| So good. | ||
| And again, his cardio. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He landed the H-bomb twice. | ||
| Yeah, landed it. | ||
| That English zombie popped back up and just starts fucking boxing. | ||
| He's fucking crazy. | ||
| He's got nothing but heart, that dude. | ||
| So much heart. | ||
| I'm going to tell you something. | ||
| I had a funny feeling about Luke Rockhold. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I didn't think Luke was taking it seriously. | ||
| How could you? | ||
| Bisping on four days? | ||
| I didn't think he was. | ||
| And I'm like, this guy's been fighting for fucking years. | ||
| All he needs is one shot. | ||
| But Bisbee's not even a knockout artist. | ||
| The betting odds for him to knock Luke Rockle down the first round, I have no idea. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| If my daughter catches you with one of those swinging overhand punches and clips the tip of your chin, you got a problem. | ||
| Hey, Brian told me he went to this new boxing gym, and the guy's like, hey, mind if this girl, he's going to kill me for telling the story, you mind if this girl jumps in there and spars some rounds? | ||
| And Brian's like, sure. | ||
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| He starts to move around. | ||
| This bitch is dead serious. | ||
| He hits him with the right hand. | ||
| Brian was like, oh, shit. | ||
| He said he's like a little wobbled. | ||
| I'm like, bro, if anyone catches you flush, man, you're going to be in for a long night. | ||
| Especially the point of the chin, the way Rockhold caught. | ||
| And Bisping swung it over the shoulder. | ||
| It was a beautiful left hook. | ||
| He stepped in with it and just whipped it over the top. | ||
| And it was something that him and Perillo had seen in Rockhold's game. | ||
| Perillo's coach of the year. | ||
| Very good coach. | ||
| Hands down coach of the year. | ||
| That used to be Tito But he's his coach. | ||
| He still is. | ||
| He worked with BJ. He's worked with a lot of guys. | ||
| BJ, Tito, Chris Cyborg, and Michael Bisbee. | ||
| Yeah, he's a quiet guy in terms of, like, he's not out there trying to get a lot of publicity. | ||
| He's not a tension whore. | ||
| He's just an excellent boxing coach. | ||
| Really knows his shit. | ||
| I'm impressed with that guy. | ||
| As far as boxing, probably the best in the game. | ||
| Yeah, one of the best in the game. | ||
| And good at adapting it for MMA, too. | ||
| You know, he understands MMA. And it's like, you know, it's like there's those camps that do it. | ||
| You know when I hear something fucking crazy that Woodley told me the other day? | ||
| Would love to. | ||
| I went to dinner with Woodley and Mighty Mouse and some dude and his wife who won the, they won some VIP thing, the UFC thing, and we met them, Del Grate and I had dinner with them. | ||
| Woodley didn't have a fucking head coach. | ||
| He coached himself up until the Calvin Gaslam fight. | ||
| The Calvin Gaslam fight was the first fight that he worked with Duke Rufus. | ||
| And he was trying to figure out if he was going to go to ATT or if he was going to work with Duke Rufus. | ||
| I thought he was at ATT before all that. | ||
| His son. | ||
| No, he never had a head coach who'd go down there and do a camp. | ||
| What the fuck was he thinking? | ||
| Just talented. | ||
| Talented and just figuring it out on his own. | ||
| His son told him to go to Chicago. | ||
| How old's his son? | ||
| Milwaukee, rather. | ||
| How old's his son? | ||
| He was a little kid. | ||
| This little kid told him he had the idea that his dad, he should go. | ||
| He goes, and I got it. | ||
| He goes, it was like 15 below zero. | ||
| Got in my fucking car and drove to Milwaukee. | ||
| And then he won, he beat Calvin, and then he's won every fight since then and won the title. | ||
| This day and age, you have to have that head coach. | ||
| You have to have all bases covered, man. | ||
| You can't be distracted with this. | ||
| You can't be doing this over here. | ||
| You can't live here and then fly in just for your camp. | ||
| You can't decide to get serious six weeks before. | ||
| People are too good. | ||
| Imagine the NFL did that. | ||
| Imagine if Tom Brady was like, I'm going to do this even though I'm in C's, and then right before training camp starts, I'm going to get serious. | ||
| They can't. | ||
| You just can't, man. | ||
| Yeah, and Duke's another guy that doesn't get enough credit because he's another guy that's pretty quiet. | ||
| Like, Duke Rufus is not out there trying to make a lot of noise and get a lot of people to pay attention to him. | ||
| He's just an awesome striking coach. | ||
| Amazing striking coach. | ||
| I think the reason why maybe he doesn't get enough credit with Woodley is because of what's going on with Pettis. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's the only reason. | ||
| Pettis is in a weird state, huh, man? | ||
| I mean, he can't fight at 145. He's just too weak. | ||
| It's not for him. | ||
| He just can't take it. | ||
| You know, you watch that fight and it's like, God, Max Holloway just beat the fuck out of him. | ||
| But look, I don't get why he went to 45. Look at his losses at 55. It's like, it's not that bad. | ||
| You're talking about split decisions and decisions. | ||
| It's really not that bad. | ||
| You obviously can compete in the top five there. | ||
| He definitely competed and could actually go the full distance while getting beat up. | ||
| Whereas at 45, his body was breaking down. | ||
| And he even said, he goes, I did everything in my power to make weight, I just, my body shut down. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you guys. | ||
| Maybe he should just go fucking heavy. | ||
| Just start strength and conditioning work. | ||
| Start fucking, you know, doing deadlifts and shit. | ||
| Beef his body up. | ||
| Because if you look at Dos Anjos, there's Dos Anjos before, um, like, Habib Nurmagomedov, and then there's Dos Anjos afterwards. | ||
| You mean, you mean the USADA? I don't know what you're saying. | ||
| You're talking about the USADA? I don't know who you are. | ||
| Johnny Hendricks. | ||
| I don't know who you are. | ||
| I don't know who you are. | ||
| But there is absolutely a difference when a guy gets on a serious strength and conditioning routine, regardless of Mexican supplements. | ||
| He went with Nick Curzon. | ||
| And Nick Curzon, you ever see the videos of Rafael Dos Anjos and Curzon working out? | ||
| Yeah, doing work. | ||
| Curzon is a beast. | ||
| He has guys doing crazy shit. | ||
| He's got you doing all that Marv Marinovich shit where you got all this footwork stuff and he believes in like foot strength above all, all plyometrics, all these explosive box jumps and shit, all this crazy fucking burpees and all the nutty explosive sprinting back and forth type stuff. | ||
| That's the shit you need. | ||
| I love that meathead chick. | ||
| For a while, remember Carlos Kondo was climbing on trees and shit and fucking Connor was doing all this weird stuff and then all of a sudden just the meathead movement is bad. | ||
| The meathead movement? | ||
| How's that? | ||
| Like, in what way? | ||
| That training. | ||
| Kershaw's not a meathead. | ||
| I wouldn't say that's a meathead movement at all. | ||
| I think that's the opposite. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| What I'm saying is that raw power, that strength condition, you can't make up for that by climbing on trees and doing this weird yoga movement and all that shit. | ||
| There's room for that. | ||
| That's all good, but you gotta be able to move. | ||
| It can't be your focus. | ||
| It can't be your fucking focus. | ||
| But Conor, what Conor's been able to do is develop, like, extremely agile, back-and-forth movement. | ||
| And I think a lot of that is that Edore Portal guy. | ||
| I've got to admit that as weird as his stuff looks when he's flipping around, doing all these jumps, if you can move your body like that, that's going to directly translate into your footwork and your movement. | ||
| I'd give more credit to his head coach. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I mean, Jon Cavanaugh is a wizard. | ||
| As far as his movement. | ||
| Speaking of UFC 207, you know who the biggest winner is? | ||
| Who? | ||
| Conor McGregor. | ||
| How so? | ||
| He's the only star. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He's the only megastar and goes... | ||
| He gets all the stock. | ||
| You fellas, you want to talk now or what do you want to do? | ||
| Because I'm the only guy left. | ||
| Well, how about this? | ||
| It's that and then the next pay-per-view is Holly Holm versus Jermaine Derandamay, which is... | ||
| It's a tough sell, right? | ||
| And it's a very good fight. | ||
| I would buy it as a hardcore fan. | ||
| I'll buy it for sure. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| But the bottom line is... | ||
| You and me and 100,000 people, Will. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It ain't gonna be Conor McGregor numbers, right? | ||
| Bottom line. | ||
| Conor, when she lost, and I'm sure he likes Ronda by a bit, business-wise, he's like, excellent. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| Well, it's a tricky situation now with the marketing campaign, the WMME put together for this that was so Ronda heavy, and then Ronda gets smashed, and now what are you going to do for it? | ||
| You're going to, like, the girl who smashed Ronda? | ||
| Is that what Amanda gets for her next title fight? | ||
| You do a press tour, a world press tour with her, like, let's introduce you to the girl who beat the shit out of Ronda now. | ||
| She's not fighting, let's do So they try to piggyback on Ronda again and show the beating. | ||
| Well, you know, she sort of retired two legends in the sport. | ||
| That's why she's my fighter of the year. | ||
| She retired Misha, and then she retired Ronda. | ||
| If Ronda retires, that's huge. | ||
| She retired both of them. | ||
| All of a sudden, Amanda is Nate Diaz. | ||
| Did you see Kat Zingano posted on Instagram that Amanda blocked her? | ||
| Because Kat Zingano stopped Amanda. | ||
| And Amanda was hurting Kat Zingano bad in the first round. | ||
| Real bad. | ||
| Kat was in big fucking trouble. | ||
| But she survived and went on to stop Amanda. | ||
| And I love Kat, but all fucking Amanda could do is be like, you lost to the chick I just beat in 17 seconds. | ||
| Yeah, but she got caught in an arm bar. | ||
| How did Amanda lose that fight? | ||
| I don't remember that one. | ||
| She beat her down. | ||
| She beat her down the third round. | ||
| Kat got on top and started blasting her. | ||
| Did she kind of gasp? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, she kind of gasped, but Kat is ferocious. | ||
| Kat beat Amanda. | ||
| You know that fucking scream? | ||
| There's a recording of Kat Zingano screaming after she won that fight. | ||
| And it's so primal, dude. | ||
| It's like an animal scream. | ||
| I think you played it before on the podcast. | ||
| Yeah, because it was like when she did it, I was like, whew, there's some shit you hear. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's her. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| You can't fake that. | ||
| That's in your bones, man. | ||
| That's in your soul. | ||
| Remember that's after all that darkness she dealt with with her husband committing suicide and just all this darkness. | ||
| How long ago was that? | ||
| That was after that. | ||
| That was the fight. | ||
| Play that again, Jamie. | ||
| Play that again. | ||
| Listen to this shit. | ||
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| That's like what I... | ||
| First time I did DMZ. | ||
| That shit makes me nervous. | ||
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| That shit makes me nervous. | ||
| She's fucking ferocious. | ||
| But Brendan, to answer your question from before, not to interrupt you, they're sitting on a fucking gold mine, William Morris now, with this fucking Amanda Nunes. | ||
| I told you last night, she's part of the LBGT community, Jack. | ||
| Great story. | ||
| That's deep fucking pockets, okay? | ||
| That's deep pockets. | ||
| It's LBGTQA now. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| God damn. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Gotta keep up. | ||
| Lesbians. | ||
| Gays. | ||
| Transsexuals. | ||
| I don't know how transsexuals get lumped in there. | ||
| They just hit the fucking lottery ticket. | ||
| They just hit the fucking lottery ticket. | ||
| Asexuals are in there, too. | ||
| Because they had Liz Karmouche before that. | ||
| But Liz Karmouche didn't beat up fucking Ronda Rousey. | ||
| She was still lesbian. | ||
| It helps, but Liz Karmouche wasn't the champion. | ||
| Once you're the champion, it's everything. | ||
| And when Liz Karmouche fought Ronda, she fought her at the first fight when no one knew who Ronda was. | ||
| So Ronda has all this hype behind her. | ||
| She wins that fight and then goes on. | ||
| And Liz has done well in the UFC, but having that... | ||
| It's not the same. | ||
| You know who Tanya Evinger is? | ||
| She fights for Invicta. | ||
| She's awesome. | ||
| Have you ever seen her fight, Tanya Evinger? | ||
| Very tough. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| She is badass. | ||
| She's an Invicta. | ||
| She's super tough. | ||
| She's really good. | ||
| And she's openly gay, too. | ||
| And what weight is she? | ||
| She's hilarious, man. | ||
| I love that chick. | ||
| She's like 135. 135, 145. She's good, man. | ||
| There's going to be more... | ||
| It's the same thing we were talking about. | ||
| Like, when Anderson was in his prime, when he was just lighting people on fire, the vision was like... | ||
| There wasn't... | ||
| You know, you had, like, Patrick Cote. | ||
| He had a couple of fights for the title. | ||
| Talos Latis, where, like, there's no one... | ||
| Rich Franklin. | ||
| There's no... | ||
| Well, Rich Franklin was the champ, but there's no... | ||
| Overwhelming need to see that fight. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like you want to see the fight because I'm interested to see. | ||
| Patrick's got a great chin. | ||
| He's got power. | ||
| Let's see what happens. | ||
| But it's not like, oh, here's the next one. | ||
| It's like Cody Garbrandt fighting Dominick Cruz. | ||
| You were like, oh, let's see what happens here. | ||
| There was no one like that for Anderson for a long ass time. | ||
| And I think in the women's bantamweight division, you got a kind of similar situation now. | ||
| It's like, now you have Amanda Nunes who beats the shit out of Misha. | ||
| Misha's gonna step back. | ||
| She's gone now. | ||
| She beats the shit out of Ronda. | ||
| Ronda steps back. | ||
| Holly goes up to 145. Holly's gonna fight Jermaine Duran to make. | ||
| They gotta change that shit. | ||
| Why not have Amanda fight for both belts? | ||
| How about Amanda going home to save that card? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| I mean, make some moves. | ||
| Have you seen the card? | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Holly's the headliner. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Holly's fighting Jermaine Duran to me for the $145. | ||
| I think they should give Jermaine Demand-Jermaine $500,000 to chill out. | ||
| Nuna's already beat her, by the way. | ||
| Nunez beat who? | ||
| I thought Nunez already beat Jermaine Durand. | ||
| Yeah, she beat her in the UFC. Yeah, Jermaine is a wicked kickboxer. | ||
| She's a world-class, multiple-time world champion kickboxer. | ||
| I think she won the world Muay Thai title on several occasions. | ||
| She's really elite as a Muay Thai fighter. | ||
| It's a fun fight. | ||
| Big gloves. | ||
| Stand up. | ||
| Always stand up. | ||
| There's no ground. | ||
| And as soon as she got in the UFC, you could see that transition between learning the striking with takedowns versus just fighting in a kickboxing bout. | ||
| It's a big transition. | ||
| It takes time, too. | ||
| But you're also going against people who aren't going to give you the time. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They're just fucking shooting it on her and beating her up and taking her down. | ||
| It's just a different sport. | ||
| Who's on that card? | ||
| I thought the card was pretty good. | ||
| It's in Brooklyn, yes? | ||
| Travis Brown is fighting Derek Lewis. | ||
| That's an interesting fight. | ||
| But what's, you know, I mean, where's Travis's head at right now? | ||
| He's staying in the same camp, isn't he? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| God damn it, Travis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Holly Holm versus Amanda Nunes. | ||
| That's the fight right there. | ||
| Yeah, I agree with you. | ||
| I think at 135, that's a fucking wow fight. | ||
| They should do that for this card. | ||
| No, make Amanda the two-belt champion. | ||
| But then you have to remember that Valentina Shevchenko just beat Holly and beat her up stand-up. | ||
| Holly's come off two losses. | ||
| Yeah, and Valentina beat her up stand-up with that check-right hook. | ||
| That's the fight we should see. | ||
| Yeah, they put those two together. | ||
| They need help with this card. | ||
| The problem is most people, even though Valentina won, they don't know who she is yet. | ||
| Even though she won. | ||
| I mean, she needs a few more victories inside the UFC in order to get people excited about it. | ||
| Is this pay-per-view? | ||
| This is pay-per-view. | ||
| Brooklyn. | ||
| The only reason people know Holly, too, is they don't know her past losses, really. | ||
| Granted, her fight was on Fox, but all they know is she's the girl that knocked out Ronda. | ||
| That's what's selling this. | ||
| Eddie, bro, are you trying to say that this isn't going to get your last 60 bucks? | ||
| I'm just saying that... | ||
| I will illegally stream it like I did the last one. | ||
| Amanda Nunes just fought for 45 seconds. | ||
| She's fresh. | ||
| Have her headline that card. | ||
| Hey man, let's build her up. | ||
| Where's the fire? | ||
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What are you talking about? | |
| Where's the fire? | ||
| Is that the Super Bowl card? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| I agree with Eddie. | ||
| I'm not saying nothing. | ||
| I'm not saying nothing. | ||
| I'm just saying... | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Super Bowl weekend is in Houston. | ||
| It's a different card. | ||
| Oh, it is? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, they changed it. | ||
| I don't think they have that card locked up either, by the way. | ||
| I think they're still moving fights around for that Brooklyn card because I think they recognize that they need a little bit more juice on that card. | ||
| So there's no Super Bowl card in Vegas this year? | ||
| No, it's not in Vegas. | ||
| It's in Houston this year. | ||
| And the Super Bowl's in Houston. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is it Super Bowl in Houston or Dallas? | ||
| I thought it was Dallas. | ||
| Is it Houston? | ||
| I know it's Texas. | ||
| Texas. | ||
| So they'll have a big card for the UFC there. | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| That's a great fight. | ||
| If you want my money. | ||
| All they have right now is Bermudez and Chan Sung Jung. | ||
| That's a good fight, but what day is that? | ||
| That would sell seven pay-per-views right now. | ||
| February 5th? | ||
| 4th? | ||
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Super Bowl's on the 5th. | |
| The 4th. | ||
| They need to throw Amanda on one of those cards. | ||
| I'm not there for that. | ||
| You need to slow down, sir. | ||
| Jesus Christ, what are we doing over here? | ||
| That's a Super Bowl card and it's a fight night? | ||
| What's the Super Bowl weekend? | ||
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Super Bowl weekend? | |
| The 29th? | ||
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The game is on the 5th. | |
| Yeah, that's the night before. | ||
| It's a free fight night. | ||
| Super Bowl weekend has always been a pay-per-view UFC. It's usually been in Vegas. | ||
| I wonder what they're doing, man. | ||
| Well, you know what, man? | ||
| Who's gonna headline cards right now? | ||
| Who would sell a pay-per-view? | ||
| It's a good fucking question. | ||
| There's a lot of stars out there. | ||
| No heavyweights other than Stipe Miocic that can sell a big card right now. | ||
| And he has to sell it in Cleveland, too. | ||
| There's a lot of stars out there. | ||
| There's a lot of stars out there. | ||
| That would sell a pay-per-view, Eddie. | ||
| Which ones? | ||
| Serious. | ||
| And just like, give me three. | ||
| And go. | ||
| Well, Amanda Nunez really didn't... | ||
| I mean, she put in 45 seconds. | ||
| Robbie Wall was ready. | ||
| They should take advantage. | ||
| I mean, you want... | ||
| I'm talking about legit pay-per-view sellers. | ||
| Honestly, there's Conor McGregor and then there's everybody else, right? | ||
| Correct. | ||
| There was a thing that they showed the other day that Conor, in three fights, drew more pay-per-view than the entire UFC roster in 2014. Yeah. | ||
| His three worst gates and papers of all time beat Ronda's best and Brock Lesnar's best. | ||
| Yeah, he's the best. | ||
| He's the biggest, for sure. | ||
| Are you guys arguing? | ||
| No, no, you're not arguing. | ||
| But some people are. | ||
| No, I'm just looking at you like this. | ||
| Dana's argued it, right? | ||
| Yeah, he goes, Ronda's the biggest star, and Conor's like, No. | ||
| What Rhonda is, is like, here's what's different. | ||
| When Rhonda's face came on the screen the first time in Vegas this weekend, I heard young girls scream. | ||
| That's all I heard. | ||
| I heard young girls. | ||
| It was like Justin Bieber pulled his dick out. | ||
| It was like... | ||
| How about that motherfucker's talking shit? | ||
| How about Bieber's talking shit? | ||
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I know. | |
| He made a tweet that said, you just got knocked the fuck out. | ||
| Hey Bieber, sing your fucking songs and beat it, nerd. | ||
| What? | ||
| That dude's so silly. | ||
| You don't even write your own music. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| That dude's so silly. | ||
| That's what I can't stand. | ||
| When people aren't involved in the game, they say stuff like that. | ||
| It's like, what have you ever done to risk your... | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| It got 239,000 likes. | ||
| And it's because Ronda, she was at some concert or something and her little sister wanted to meet Bieber and he didn't have time. | ||
| So then she got mad. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| She was like, fuck Bieber. | ||
| So that's where it stems from. | ||
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Oh, wow. | |
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So he's like waiting. | ||
| Well, you remember when fucking Ronda got KO'd by Holly? | ||
| Trump said, I'm glad she got knocked out. | ||
| Not a good person. | ||
| Trump talked shit again, didn't he? | ||
| Trump did another tweet about Ronda. | ||
| About Ronda? | ||
| And he's the president of the United States! | ||
| No! | ||
| I'm pretty sure. | ||
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Did he really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| He is so crazy. | ||
| Check out his tweet. | ||
| He is so crazy. | ||
| Why is he mad at Ron, though? | ||
| Who fucking knows? | ||
| She might have talked shit about him. | ||
| Because she said, she goes, I would never vote for Trump. | ||
| Yeah, she said she was going to vote for Bernie Sanders. | ||
| You're the president of the United States, motherfucker. | ||
| What do you care? | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| Hey, man, don't you have bigger fires to put out instead of tweeting bullshit? | ||
| Well, not only that, man. | ||
| He's not a politician, man. | ||
| That's not what he is. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| He's not. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| He's not trying to. | ||
| He don't even want to stay at the White House. | ||
| Because I got a fucking hotel. | ||
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I wouldn't either. | |
| He's like, look at this little place. | ||
| I got a bidet. | ||
| I got Chinese butlers and shit. | ||
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Get the fuck out of here to the White House and shit. | |
| It's probably run down. | ||
| It's probably like the Playboy Mansion. | ||
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What? | |
| It's nasty. | ||
| Mildew on the windows and shit. | ||
| You've been in the mansion, right? | ||
| Didn't you come with me to that marijuana policy project thing? | ||
| When I first got invited to the mansion, I thought, oh my god, it's going to be just like those videos, you see? | ||
| They used to be the commercials. | ||
| Girls Gone Wild. | ||
| Like Playboy Mansion. | ||
| And you'd see on E! the Playboy Mansion. | ||
| You're like, oh shit. | ||
| We get invited to an event there, and then you figure it out really quick that, okay, not every night goes off because there's like no girls there. | ||
| They had giant screens everywhere in the backyard playing loops of people partying on the good nights. | ||
| So you're at the Playboy Mansion seeing people party at the Playboy Mansion. | ||
| And then I looked into it and it turns out they rent out the place all the goddamn time. | ||
| They rent it out all the time. | ||
| It's not like what you see on TV. There's only two times per year where it's that, what you imagine, where they're just 80% girls and they're all in their underwear. | ||
| That does happen, but it's only their Halloween party and their 4th of July or a midnight summer's eve. | ||
| And that shit blasts off. | ||
| It's impossible to get into those. | ||
| Eddie, you remember when we went to see fights there? | ||
| Yeah, we saw Strikeforce there. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| Brandon Thatch. | ||
| No one thought on that. | ||
| Yeah, dude, Thatch, man. | ||
| That was a tough loss. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably over, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah, he just did not. | ||
| He looked terrible on the ground, man. | ||
| He was making big rookie mistakes. | ||
| Super amateur. | ||
| Yeah, he was leaving himself open. | ||
| He wasn't patient. | ||
| It's heartbreaking. | ||
| He wasn't doing it the right way. | ||
| I'm telling you, if you saw him in the gym, you're like, I've seen him against the best in the world. | ||
| You're like, this motherfucker's going to do it, man. | ||
| So what is it? | ||
| Commitment to the grappling. | ||
| Commitment to grappling. | ||
| Commitment to jiu-jitsu. | ||
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Yeah, man. | |
| He's just so good at stand-up. | ||
| You know, his dad's this legend in Denver as far as striking, and he was a taekwondo guy, and he trained him since he was little. | ||
| And Thatch was always the it factor in the gym, where you're like, dude, if you're standing with him, good luck. | ||
| He could do it all. | ||
| Both ways, whatever you wanted. | ||
| He could mimic anything. | ||
| He looked good standing up, too, man. | ||
| He looked real good. | ||
| And he made the mistake of initiating the grappling. | ||
| I was like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| And what hurts him even more, I don't know if you guys saw this, with all the chaos going on with UFC 207, their head coach, Lister Bowling, who's my head coach, and I think one of the best in the game, is retiring. | ||
| He's leaving Muscle Farm. | ||
| Why is he doing that? | ||
| Because his kids, his kids in wrestling, and he lives far away, and he's like, dude, I'm spending too much time with the guys traveling stuff. | ||
| It was in the summer, I had three weekends with my kids. | ||
| He's like, I just can't do it. | ||
| And his son, little Lister, is really getting competitive in wrestling, and Lister's his wrestling coach. | ||
| How far away does he live from the gym? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Like an hour. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| He should move closer. | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| But again, he's like, because he owns his own business. | ||
| He makes crazy money. | ||
| So he's just doing it, and it kind of got out of hand. | ||
| He's like, dude, I'm spending too much time with the team and not enough time with my family. | ||
| He's a good dude, too. | ||
| One of the best. | ||
| Really good guy. | ||
| One of the best. | ||
| Very smart, too. | ||
| I'll tell you what I'd like to see. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I don't know if they've talked about us. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| But I'd like to see Matt Brown take kind of a leadership role with that team. | ||
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Really? | |
| And move that into the next phase of his career? | ||
| I don't even know if he's into it, but I've seen him with the guys and with his mentality and experience. | ||
| You're talking about a coach who kind of knows it all, like we were talking about with Matt Hume who's been there. | ||
| It'd be a good idea. | ||
| I have no idea if he's even into it. | ||
| Yeah, it was interesting because Dwayne was working with Matt Brown for this fight. | ||
| He worked with him for a few weeks, but I thought maybe we'd see more footwork and movement from Matt that's similar to Dwayne's style. | ||
| Dwayne's style doesn't work that way. | ||
| Dwayne, you have to be in and you have to spend a ton of time with him. | ||
| And I really think he's the perfect coach for TJ. But unless you're one of those small guys with that crazy footwork, he's not a guy you can go to for six weeks and pick shit up. | ||
| But you know what, man? | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| But do you remember when Travis Brown was first on the scene? | ||
| Like when he fought Skyscraper? | ||
| And he moved like Dominic Cruz? | ||
| Yes, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Because he's training at an alliance? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| The entire division was like, what the fuck are we going to do? | ||
| Yeah, well, what happened to him? | ||
| Edmund. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Think about all his fights since he left there. | ||
| He was a barbarian, man. | ||
| I always said that he was the dark horse in the division. | ||
| I was like, let me tell you something. | ||
| If this guy puts it all together, he can do some shit that you rarely see from a heavyweight. | ||
| He went from Alliance to Winklejohn for a while? | ||
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Yes. | |
| He was always at Alliance. | ||
| He went to Alliance, then he went to Jackson's and was good there. | ||
| He married Overeem and those guys. | ||
| Then Overeem stayed there, then he left. | ||
| Then he ended up going to... | ||
| Edmund with Ronda. | ||
| But same thing. | ||
| I forget what UFC it was. | ||
| I fought Ben Rothwell. | ||
| He was on the card fighting some scrub. | ||
| And I looked at my coach and I was like, do you know about that guy? | ||
| And he goes, a little bit. | ||
| And I went, he's probably your next heavyweight champ. | ||
| Have you seen the way he moves? | ||
| I went, we don't want to fight him down the road. | ||
| We want to fight him soon. | ||
| Because that guy has so much talent. | ||
| He's probably the next champ. | ||
| They're like, really? | ||
| Then we saw his fight and everyone was like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| I'm like, he has footwork like Dominic Cruz and he's a C6-7. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I talked to Brian Stan about him, and Brian was pretty adamant about it, like, after the last fight. | ||
| He's like, where's all his footwork? | ||
| He's like, I remember this guy having incredible footwork and movement when he was at Jackson's camp, and now he's just kind of lost all of it, and he's become this... | ||
| Stagnant, like... | ||
| It also doesn't look like he has the same desire anymore, like when he knocked out Gonzaga or Josh Brown. | ||
| Bingo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Josh Barnett. | ||
| Josh Barnett, rather. | ||
| Who just got flagged. | ||
| Yeah, he got flagged, huh? | ||
| What do you know it for? | ||
| Steroids. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Hey man, that guy, he's been flagged before, for God's sakes. | |
| And I love Josh, shit happens. | ||
| He's got caught a few times. | ||
| You know, the whole Edmund, somebody put a video out, pretty funny about everybody getting knocked out. | ||
| Edmund Camp. | ||
| With a little flute, like, from fucking Titanic and shit, you know? | ||
| And it's fucking sad, you know? | ||
| Right before the Ronda fight, I had to pee. | ||
| And while I was peeing, I said to myself, you know what, I can't call this fight, but what do I want to happen? | ||
| Let this poor girl fucking win. | ||
| Let her retire. | ||
| Let Amanda Nunes. | ||
| She would never retire if she won. | ||
| You know, whatever. | ||
| I was hoping. | ||
| I didn't want to see what I just saw again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But why do we feel that way? | ||
| See, but you didn't see what you just saw again. | ||
| What you saw was way worse. | ||
| The Holly fight, it was her trying to get Holly, but Holly was fighting wisely. | ||
| She was sliding away, cracking her with shots. | ||
| It was Ronda being Ronda. | ||
| She got hunted. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Rhonda got hunted down and destroyed by an assassin. | ||
| Totally different kind of a fight. | ||
| If I hunt him down right now, if I get up and go and say, I have two seconds before his head adjusts and he realizes where he is. | ||
| Even Eddie, if I get on top of him in side control, as big and fat as I am, Eddie will go, fuck, I can't breathe. | ||
| But after a while, you get it together. | ||
| She didn't even get it together. | ||
| The big difference is getting hit in the head. | ||
| She probably had no idea what the fuck was going on. | ||
| But it was like, but yo! | ||
| She just came from a training camp. | ||
| Was her media scrum stuff like her training camp? | ||
| Usually she's got a little guy she's throwing around in training camp. | ||
| This time I didn't see her throwing nobody around in training camp. | ||
| She definitely had judo work. | ||
| She's definitely doing a lot of work. | ||
| There was some footage that was up of her hitting takedowns and stuff. | ||
| Did she tell Edmund, I don't want to see nobody, I don't want to talk to nobody? | ||
| Was her training reflective of her attitude towards the media and everything like this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something is not fucking right here. | ||
| That's what I'm saying, Joey. | ||
| Joe, I love you. | ||
| I appreciate the headshot. | ||
| But something wasn't there. | ||
| I get shot in the head. | ||
| I put my hands up. | ||
| I think that's fair to say, Joe. | ||
| Something was not there. | ||
| Something was not there. | ||
| That's why I feel, and the public, I mean, guys are brilliant. | ||
| You feel broken hearted in a way. | ||
| Isn't that weird? | ||
| Why do we feel broken? | ||
| I feel broken hearted. | ||
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I do too. | |
| I called you up the next morning and told you. | ||
| You are driving back from the airport. | ||
| I'm like, I'm broken hearted. | ||
| Yeah, you were devastated. | ||
| Me, me, everybody gets fired after Holly Holm. | ||
| Everybody. | ||
| I go back to the Japanese Cultural Center with Misaki down there for $7 every time. | ||
| That's not what made Ronda Ronda though. | ||
| She's so loyal. | ||
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I understand. | |
| But something... | ||
| But if she was so loyal, she wouldn't have left the guy that got her into the UFC, though. | ||
| What guy? | ||
| Who? | ||
| You're talking about the manager? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My manager's different. | ||
| Managers are scumbags. | ||
| But if she was so loyal, she wouldn't have left him. | ||
| But she said, well, who knows what that deal is? | ||
| Yeah, you're talking about money. | ||
| That's different. | ||
| Money's different, though, right? | ||
| But there's two different versions of that story. | ||
| I don't know who's right. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I feel the same way. | ||
| Something was not right there. | ||
| I agree 100%. | ||
| The head punch is great, but something wasn't there, Joe. | ||
| Something wasn't there. | ||
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When she went to grab her, Nunes went like this. | |
| It wasn't the same Ronda that came out for Holly and that tenacity. | ||
| Joe, you remember that time you told me you mugged that gay guy and he beat the shit out of you? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But he wasn't a gay guy. | ||
| I'll get in trouble now. | ||
| What happened was, guys that were thinking they wanted to be gay, like guys that had families and shit, that wanted to get their dick sucked, would have a few drinks in them, and they'd go to Hudson County Park to see if there was somebody there to get their dick sucked. | ||
| Like, before I went into your show last night, I parked. | ||
| Sean just said, park in this lot. | ||
| I didn't park in that lot. | ||
| I parked in a lot that was empty, and when I was walking over there, Some dude kept making weird eye contact with me. | ||
| He wanted to suck dick. | ||
| I know when somebody looks at me because they see me from the podcast. | ||
| Joey's got like a guy in his head. | ||
| What does that look mean? | ||
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No, no, no, no, no. | |
| I know exactly. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's either he had two looks to him. | ||
| Either he wanted to sell me drugs, Oh, he wanted to suck my dick. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How'd you decide that it was dick? | ||
| How creepy it was. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Just his appearance. | ||
| I don't want to say he looked gay. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But just his appearance. | ||
| But he looked gay. | ||
| He was a male prostitute. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Let's pretend he was a male prostitute. | ||
| His mouth was watering. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay, so. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| So these guys. | ||
| These guys would come down and they'd be half drunk. | ||
| Like in hindsight, I think about it, and there are all these type of dudes that may not just be gay. | ||
| They just have a family, but they like the gay. | ||
| You know, it's 1980. That'd be gay though, wouldn't it? | ||
| In 1980, it wasn't easy to go, I'm coming out of the closet. | ||
| There was a lot of guys in the... | ||
| Let me talk to you about something. | ||
| You ever been around the guy, tell me the truth, as a man, you ever been around the guy that when you get in your car and go home, you're like, you know what? | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I could definitely talk that dude into sucking my dick. | ||
| He's dying to suck a dick. | ||
| Even though he's got a hot girlfriend, and a kid, and they got a dog, and he goes to fucking, uh, what, CrossFit? | ||
| You could tell, maybe he could mingle on the other side. | ||
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A kid and a dog. | |
| You could talk him into switching governments. | ||
| He's got a kid and a dog. | ||
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A lot of dudes like that, that you look at and you go, every guy out there with a kid who's walking his dog is like, fuck, am I gay? | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| Maybe you have evil fantasies like Rob Halford in Hell Bent for Leather. | ||
| You know that's all? | ||
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Rob Halford is evil. | |
| But he was gay as fuck. | ||
| No, I'm not saying that. | ||
| I love Bob Halford. | ||
| I love Bob Halford. | ||
| I do too. | ||
| But I'm just saying that. | ||
| There's a lot of fucking guys, dog, that you see, that you know. | ||
| Maybe their dad's still alive and he was a Marine. | ||
| What the fuck does that mean? | ||
| You can't go home and tell your dad, who was a general, I want to suck dick for a time. | ||
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I see what you're saying. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I thought you were saying, like, those guys, if your dad was alive, he's a Marine, you want to blow guys. | ||
| Joe Rogan, you were an intelligence. | ||
| How many guys do you think are out there right now? | ||
| We've had this discussion that are married, whatever, but every once in a while, they put a feather suit on, and they go dance like in anything. | ||
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It's probably more than 10. And that's what we used to. | |
| You know, we used to go down there. | ||
| We were dumb kids. | ||
| We figured out we could rob these dudes that were drunk. | ||
| They come down and get their dick sucked. | ||
| So we bait him. | ||
| We got the captain of police's son, so we weren't gonna go to jail. | ||
| He was better looking than you. | ||
| We weren't gonna go to jail. | ||
| We put him out there. | ||
| We put like a guinea t-shirt, you know, those wife beaters with a little gold chain with a cross on it and shit. | ||
| And we put him out there on Boulevard East and then we hide in the trees. | ||
| And then he'd go, I'll suck your dick, and the guy would park, and then he'd walk him back, and right before I went to get that one knee, I'd come up with that straight right kick, John Jones to the fucking nutsack. | ||
| You go down, we're in the trees. | ||
| We're hiding in the trees. | ||
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We fucking fly down from the trees. | |
| And we just bam, bam, bam. | ||
| We take your money. | ||
| We were 16 guys. | ||
| You know nobody fucking knows what you're writing. | ||
| Not that. | ||
| My mother. | ||
| No. | ||
| Perfect guy to rob. | ||
| The guy's not going to the cops. | ||
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He's not going to the cops. | |
| And you got to remember, my crew was the third crew out. | ||
| There was a crew from 64th Street. | ||
| They were not only robbing you, they were taking you to your house. | ||
| I had friends that were in high school that actually were setting you up. | ||
| Yeah, let's suck your dick. | ||
| And then they'd put you back in your car and go to your house and rob you. | ||
| We were the light crew. | ||
| We were just going down there, peppering you with a few shots and running away with you. | ||
| Nobody getting their dicks on. | ||
| My point about the story was there was one time where you... | ||
| Well, I got beat up. | ||
| I went down there by myself. | ||
| Yeah, you went down there. | ||
| I went down there by myself. | ||
| I had to mix minus the eight and a half. | ||
| And I only won by eight. | ||
| So I got caught by the hook. | ||
| And I called my buddy. | ||
| And I go, dog, we lost. | ||
| And he goes, I'm with my girlfriend. | ||
| But at the time, I was, yeah, you want it up? | ||
| I'm hanging out with my buddies. | ||
| We're hitting the back. | ||
| I'll go down there. | ||
| I'll go down there, bro. | ||
| I'm from Jersey. | ||
| They ain't got to do nothing to me. | ||
| This dude lit me up. | ||
| It could have been Nunes' uncle. | ||
| It could have been Amanda Nunes' uncle. | ||
| He punched me with so many shots. | ||
| But again... | ||
| He lit your ass up? | ||
| Lit me up. | ||
| And had a Broncard boner? | ||
| But here's the funny thing that... | ||
| In hindsight now, I know what Joe's saying. | ||
| Levels are striking. | ||
| I never saw striking. | ||
| It was nighttime, so I didn't even see his hands. | ||
| I just kept seeing lights. | ||
| You ever see lights? | ||
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I just kept seeing lights. | |
| When you see lights at night, that's... | ||
| The motherfucker had some training. | ||
| There's a funny thing about striking, too, and this relates to what Amanda can do. | ||
| There's power, and then there's like, whoa power. | ||
| There's like crazy power. | ||
| God-gifted power, yeah. | ||
| Some people just have it, and you see it with Lineker. | ||
| Lineker for sure has it. | ||
| Rumble for sure has it. | ||
| There's people that have this weird power. | ||
| They have an ability to hit people, and you see people that normally can take a shot, and you see the look in their eye where they're in big trouble, like right away. | ||
| And when you get hit like that, man, You don't know where the fuck you are. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| In jujitsu, every black belt knows how to do a rear naked choke, but very few people can do a rear naked choke like Marcelo Garcia. | ||
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Right. | |
| Very few people. | ||
| Why? | ||
| It's because... | ||
| Would you say it was natural, like Lineker, or was it because he spent a lot of time perfecting the back? | ||
| And I know for a fact that he did. | ||
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He used to... | |
| He used to ride on people's backs with the over-under and not even try to tap him. | ||
| He would just spend a lot of time just riding and perfecting the control. | ||
| Then he just mastered the fight. | ||
| Then he realized how important that squeeze was so that he would ride and squeeze and he knew that it was all about the power of the squeeze. | ||
| So he spent a lot of time With the rear naked choke. | ||
| And, you know, there's quite a few guys out there now that are, you know, his students and other guys that have developed back attacks is almost as good as Marcelo, but probably not as good. | ||
| Now, when you're talking about power, you know, certain guys have the power, whether they're born with it or not. | ||
| What if the guys with the power are actually in their training, working harder... | ||
| And more consistently at developing power. | ||
| Like, what would you need? | ||
| Like, you gotta... | ||
| It's different. | ||
| There is a possibility, but it's also a physics issue. | ||
| It's also an anatomy issue. | ||
| What if it's both, though? | ||
| It might be both, but there's... | ||
| It has to be, right? | ||
| It is. | ||
| Like, okay, here's a problem. | ||
| Cody Garbrandt does not have big hands. | ||
| He's not built like a George Foreman type character. | ||
| Like, George Foreman has freakish physical attributes. | ||
| He's got hands that are like the size of, like, canned hams. | ||
| They're fucking gigantic. | ||
| And he would just thump! | ||
| Just thump guys with a jab, and you would see them get stunned and hurt. | ||
| Obviously, trained like a motherfucker. | ||
| Obviously, had very good technique, too. | ||
| Obviously, worked on all those things, too. | ||
| But you can't overcome the physical attributes if a guy does all those other things as well. | ||
| That's where the freaks come in. | ||
| That's where the people just have this ridiculous one-shot power. | ||
| But there's technique. | ||
| Look at Conor. | ||
| Conor's not a big guy. | ||
| He's a wide-shoulder guy, but he has that one-hit quitter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, no question. | ||
| When you think about your turning sidekick, right? | ||
| Like your personal turning sidekick. | ||
| Everybody knows now that it's extremely powerful. | ||
| Scary powerful. | ||
| Very few people. | ||
| I've never seen anybody throw a turning sidekick as hard as you. | ||
| I've worked with a lot of martial artists. | ||
| In my time, still to this day, holy shit. | ||
| Michael Jai White, excuse me, he's right up there too, but he's like 6'4", 240. Anyways, but you have said many times that the The secret behind your power was the reps. | ||
| You knew that it was all about just hitting that heavy bag as many goddamn times as possible. | ||
| Every day, just standing in front. | ||
| And you said that most people don't develop that power because most people just don't spend the time standing in front of a bag and just working. | ||
| It's also the way he's built, though. | ||
| Well, that too. | ||
| Listen, man, there was a lot of guys that I trained with that had good turning sidekicks. | ||
| I always knew that I had a cheat. | ||
| I had a physical advantage. | ||
| Like, the size of my hands. | ||
| For someone my size. | ||
| I mean, you have to realize I had hands this big when I was fighting at 154. It was ridiculous. | ||
| They were just- Certain physical attributes you have. | ||
| The width of the shoulders is big. | ||
| But that has nothing to do with your turning side kick. | ||
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It does. | |
| It does. | ||
| It's in the hips, too. | ||
| It's the same thing with my hips, my knees, my ass. | ||
| Explosive. | ||
| It's also the fast twitch fiber, whether you have it or not. | ||
| Is it a coincidence? | ||
| Is it a coincidence? | ||
| That's when you get greatness. | ||
| Powers, a lot of it is fast twitch. | ||
| And you either have fast twitch or you don't. | ||
| I mean, Nick Diaz is a hard puncher, but he's never going to be a puncher like Woodley. | ||
| No matter what he does, who he trains with it will never be there. | ||
| Your average MMA fighter, how much time do you think they spend working on the power of their turning sidekick? | ||
| Very little. | ||
| Well, no one really throws a sidekick in the UFC. Very few then, right? | ||
| Well, there's a few guys. | ||
| There's a few guys that do it. | ||
| They have allotted a certain amount of time a week, like for 20 minutes on Mondays. | ||
| Yeah, but to your point, power, how many guys focus on throwing a right hand or left hand if they're dominant left-handed or southpaws? | ||
| Everyone does. | ||
| There's very few who can do it in one punch and knock guys out. | ||
| You know fighters that specifically train every day just to develop specific punching? | ||
| Like today, I'm going to spend... | ||
| Power punches. | ||
| Power punches, right? | ||
| In between camps. | ||
| In between camps, guys do that, for sure. | ||
| Guys will just, like, go... | ||
| Like George was famous for doing that. | ||
| He would go down to Henzo's and just only train jiu-jitsu for, like, months on end. | ||
| You know, just to really tighten everything up. | ||
| He went to Brazil a couple times just to train jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Or Lofsky would do it in boxing. | ||
| You know, I would do it in boxing... | ||
| So what's the best thing you can do? | ||
| You're a professional fighter, you're fighting in the UFC, you're ranked 13th, and you want to take your power, your hand, you want to be able to knock someone, you want to have that Conor McGregor strength. | ||
| What do I got to do to get... | ||
| Lift weight. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think so. | ||
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I don't think so. | |
| I think it's genetics. | ||
| Yeah, it's genetics. | ||
| I think genetics has a lot to do with it, but I think if you go see somebody, they could clean up the efficiency. | ||
| Yes, for sure. | ||
| You know, because it's your shoulders turning your shoulders. | ||
| Yes, there's a lot of technique in it. | ||
| There's a lot of stuff that goes into that punch. | ||
| You know, if a wrestler, a world champion wrestler came in, and I came in, and I was a world champion wrestler, but my punches weren't that hard. | ||
| I think in time... | ||
| All these are true, but let me tell you something. | ||
| You talk to someone who's a real boxing trainer, and they will tell you that there are guys that just come in, and for whatever reason, they might not have ever boxed before, but you have them throw a jab, and they're like, and you're like, oh, Jesus. | ||
| I can't teach that. | ||
| For sure there's those people. | ||
| And then the technique makes it better. | ||
| If you look at a guy like Sergey Kovalev, who's a vicious knockout artist, vicious puncher, he's got both. | ||
| He's got the beautiful technique, but he also has that freakish God-given strength. | ||
| Those are the guys that oftentimes wind up being champions. | ||
| Now, to that point, look at Andre Ward, who just fought, who probably trains more than Sergei. | ||
| He was an Olympic medalist, gold medalist, has been training, fighting since he was 10, I think. | ||
| And he works on power punches, but he's not a knockout artist. | ||
| So you're saying you're a head coach of a team. | ||
| You would tell all your fighters, you're either born with power or you're not, don't worry about working on your power. | ||
| Just work on your power. | ||
| You can always improve everything, but you're never going to get it to that rumble level. | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| I'm never going to tell Rebel, hey, let's pick our shots here. | ||
| More volume. | ||
| No, I don't think we're even arguing. | ||
| We're not arguing. | ||
| What can you do specifically? | ||
| 15 minutes a week, 30 minutes a week. | ||
| We're focusing on developing power. | ||
| You're not known for a right hand. | ||
| Every coach does it already. | ||
| After two years, we're going to do... | ||
| What is it, though, specifically? | ||
| Going to the pool with dumbbells like Muhammad and just throw punches. | ||
| Is that the best way? | ||
| You could most certainly do some strength and conditioning work that would help. | ||
| Just hitting a bag. | ||
| Hitting a bag would help a lot. | ||
| Hitting a bag, maybe. | ||
| All the above would help. | ||
| Like, Evander Holyfield started working out with Mackie Shillstone when he went up from cruiserweight to heavyweight. | ||
| So he did a lot of weightlifting. | ||
| And his power came up with him. | ||
| Put a lot of weight on them. | ||
| Put a lot of weight on them. | ||
| And maybe Mexican supplements. | ||
| Yes, and he's also explosive. | ||
| And maybe definitely Mexican supplements. | ||
| And maybe 100%. | ||
| 100% anyways. | ||
| And he could win the Olympia at the same time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the guys who are like... | ||
| There's a good video of Joseph Valtellini on his... | ||
| Go to Bazooka Joe Valtellini on his Instagram page. | ||
| Valtellini, who was glory champion, had to step back because of concussions. | ||
| And I think he's going to stay retired. | ||
| He hasn't decided yet, but... | ||
| He went down on the top. | ||
| I mean, he's one of the best kickboxers in the world. | ||
| But there's a video of him hitting the pads and just digging. | ||
| Just digging into pads and talking about the importance of sometimes just going all out with power. | ||
| Just all out power shots on the pads. | ||
| Like, watch. | ||
| You can see this guy. | ||
| He's a... | ||
| And when he's doing it, when he's hitting these pads, the good thing about it is hands never drop from his chin. | ||
| Always good position. | ||
| But... | ||
| To really dig in and work only solely on your power, you don't want to do that all the time. | ||
| This is just something that you're going to do occasionally, and only every athlete has to decide. | ||
| It really depends on the person, depends on what else you're working on. | ||
| Five minutes a day? | ||
| See, but this combination, these are so simple combinations. | ||
| Like right hand, left hook, right kick. | ||
| To develop power, isn't it better on a heavy bag than as opposed to these? | ||
| Not necessarily. | ||
| That's just as good. | ||
| That's just as good that style, but that's not as good for straight kicks. | ||
| Because you can't kick a person to the body that way. | ||
| Like if I put a body pad on a dude and I spinning back kick him, he's going to get really hurt. | ||
| Like I'll break your ribs. | ||
| Even with one of those big body shields on it, if you let someone spinning back kick you in the body, it's going to break your ribs. | ||
| There's some punchers too, if they do a liver shot on a coach with a body pad, they'll drop them. | ||
| Yeah, they'll drop them. | ||
| Internal bleeding. | ||
| You got a fuck up mix, dawg. | ||
| The dude who lost, who was the first boxer that got choked out in the UFC? James Toney? | ||
| I heard that dude. | ||
| Oh, he can fuck some mitts up. | ||
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Oh, people say it's the most talented of all time. | |
| James Toney is a fucking artist. | ||
| He said, dog, you got to put extra. | ||
| He will fuck your shit up. | ||
| He was an artist. | ||
| When he was at his best, he was an artist. | ||
| If you talk to anyone from that national team, they'll say, who's the best boxer, most talented of all time? | ||
| Every single person unanimously says James Toney. | ||
| Even Floyd Mayweather is the best we've ever seen. | ||
| Talent-wise, James Toney. | ||
| He was a bad motherfucker, but he liked to eat. | ||
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Freak. | |
| He loved him some fucking Big Macs. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| He got thick. | ||
| He went all the way up to heavyweight. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| You know, James Toney started out his career at 160, 168. Freak. | ||
| Super freak. | ||
| To that point, though, and we can end on that and I'll get rid of it. | ||
| But look at baseball. | ||
| Like, Mark McGuire, he's never going to be a single-base guy. | ||
| He's a fucking guy. | ||
| Also, but here's a good example. | ||
| Full of Mexican supplements when he's at his best. | ||
| True. | ||
| If you get that guy on the natch and had him hit a baseball, I mean, how much distance is the difference between him? | ||
| So he might hit 30 home runs instead of 70, but still, it was in his genetics. | ||
| Big forearms, powerful hips, follow-through. | ||
| He was never going to be the guy who would bunt the ball and lead off. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Sosa, same thing. | ||
| Same thing, Barry Bonds, jacked to the gills. | ||
| But that might not necessarily translate into punching power, which is really interesting. | ||
| It's like they might just be really good at that, you know? | ||
| Punching power is a weird one, man. | ||
| It's a real weird one. | ||
| Kicking power is just as weird. | ||
| You think Elway could hit hard? | ||
| Because that motherfucker could throw hard. | ||
| Again, that movement from the hips, all that same movement. | ||
| They said that when you, they had a documentary on him, the 83 draft, 30 for 30. Hells yeah. | ||
| And how they fucking slammed him, how they had to scam him up. | ||
| Like they had to pull, Steinbrenner had to draft him because he didn't want to go to Baltimore. | ||
| Yeah, he didn't want to go to the Colts. | ||
| Tremendous shit, kinky shit. | ||
| But bro, this dude could stand on the warning sign. | ||
| That's a true story. | ||
| He could stand on the warning track, John Elway, take one step. | ||
| And put the ball right there in your glove at home plate. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's deadly shit. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh, you have no idea. | ||
| There's a receiver. | ||
| How far is that? | ||
| Let's say 305, 305 feet. | ||
| 305 feet, and is he going up in the air, or is it a straight line? | ||
| Just a bullet. | ||
| You have to throw so fast for that ball not to drive. | ||
| You have to watch some of the 30s. | ||
| He's a freak. | ||
| Or like that, it's very interesting how he didn't want to play for Baltimore. | ||
| So somebody went to Steinbrenner's office and they said, we'd like for you to draft John Elway. | ||
| Steinbrenner goes... | ||
| And he opened up the schedule for the fucking, the lineup for two, like three years later. | ||
| He had Elway starting in the right field already. | ||
| Here's why that's crazy. | ||
| Here's why being able to throw from the morning track into home plate is crazy. | ||
| If you took a baseball and you threw it and you shot a bullet... | ||
| They would both drop at the same rate. | ||
| So the bullet's only going to be in the air for a few seconds. | ||
| That's why you could be 200 yards away, put your crosshairs on someone, pull the trigger, and then boom, they die immediately. | ||
| It's because the bullet's traveling so fast. | ||
| But the drop is the same amount of time. | ||
| So it depends on how long it takes to get there, it's how far it's going to drop. | ||
| So, like, if you're shooting something from really far away, like, there's a lot of people that get into long-range shooting. | ||
| Like, they go on those ranges, they'll hit these plates, these steel plates that are, like, five, eight hundred, a thousand yards away, and you hear, bang! | ||
| Clink! | ||
| Like, there's a delay, a noticeable delay. | ||
| And in that delay, they have to calculate the drop. | ||
| So, like, if they're shooting at that plate, their reticle, where they aim, it has to adjust for the fact that this bullet is going to drop in the amount of time that it takes to get 800 yards. | ||
| So they aim higher. | ||
| Yeah, so it's going to take a second or so, or half a second, whatever it is. | ||
| So they have to aim higher, so the scope adjusts for that. | ||
| If you're throwing a baseball, imagine how much slower that is than a bullet. | ||
| So you have to throw so fucking fast. | ||
| If you're throwing straight, if you're just going to throw straight and get into home plate, that motherfucker must be throwing a bullet. | ||
| It must be crazy. | ||
| You know his receivers in Denver? | ||
| Yeah, the first three years. | ||
| Couldn't catch the ball. | ||
| They couldn't catch the ball. | ||
| They would catch with their pads and it would be so hard. | ||
| It would leave imprints underneath their pads on their chest. | ||
| People are crazy. | ||
| And that's a known skill that some people just never develop, the ability to throw a fastball. | ||
| That's another one. | ||
| It's like punching power. | ||
| We discussed it last time, the dynamics of it. | ||
| I'll tell you who I think it translates from if he threw a punch, a guy who was explosive as fuck and could throw and do it all, Bo Jackson. | ||
| Oh yeah, Bo Jackson could punch. | ||
| Have you taught Bo Jackson how to punch? | ||
| But, you know, here's another example. | ||
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Herschel Walker. | |
| Herschel Walker could punch like a motherfucker. | ||
| And he was a karate black belt. | ||
| I mean, he fought a bunch of MMA fights deep into his 40s. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| And jacked! | ||
| Jacked at like 48. Shredded. | ||
| Giant six-pack. | ||
| Not an ounce of fat. | ||
| Looks like a superhero. | ||
| Looked like Yo Romero, but aged as fuck. | ||
| And didn't look old. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Real weird. | ||
| He still looks good. | ||
| He's in his 50s now. | ||
| Talking about having one more fight before he stops. | ||
| Yeah, let's not. | ||
| But yeah, I hear you. | ||
| But why not? | ||
| Go to some small league. | ||
| How about fucking Risen? | ||
| Did you see Gabby Garcia beat up that grandma? | ||
| I was gonna post it. | ||
| I was gonna post it. | ||
| I got the video. | ||
| I was just gonna post, what the fuck Japan. | ||
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| And then I thought about it. | ||
| I go, I can't do this. | ||
| She was running. | ||
| The chick was running. | ||
| The fuck was that? | ||
| Can we see that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know where it is, Jamie? | ||
| I gotta pee real quick. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| I gotta pee myself. | ||
| I'm gonna put it up on Instagram, Jamie. | ||
| And when I put it up on Instagram, you could just... | ||
| I'm just gonna put it up. | ||
| Have you seen this, Joey? | ||
| And I'm gonna write... | ||
| You know who Gabby Garcia is? | ||
| It's fucking... | ||
| It's huge! | ||
| Here, I'll put it up right now. | ||
| She fights a straight-up grandma. | ||
| She comes out and is doing, like, the WWE off-the-rope stuff as she's coming out like it's a game. | ||
| You know my girl Jessica tapped fucking Gabby Garcia. | ||
| Jessica who? | ||
| Flowers. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| She did? | ||
| How? | ||
| In competition? | ||
| Oh, at Worlds? | ||
| Okay, I just posted it, so if you go to my Instagram, Joe Rogan, you'll see, it just says, WTF Japan, WTF Japan, and you see this one woman... | ||
| Powering jack to the tits. | ||
| Looks like Jose Canseco in 1984. Oh my god. | ||
| Look at that old lady. | ||
| And she fought a 50-year-old woman who looked like she hasn't worked out in a year. | ||
| And she looks so scared. | ||
| Can we get a GoFundMe so she doesn't have to do this shit? | ||
| Well, that woman looks so scared, too. | ||
| Hell, I'd be scared. | ||
| Can you refresh that? | ||
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| Oh look, she knees her in the body, oh my god, and punches her in the face. | ||
| I mean, and mercifully, Gabby Garcia is not the most vicious striker in the world. | ||
| Not the friendliest. | ||
| Oh, well, she had to do what she had to do. | ||
| Why would you take that fight? | ||
| Gabby? | ||
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| For easy cash. | ||
| I understand easy cash, but god damn. | ||
| And look at this poor lady. | ||
| Well, that must have been some... | ||
| If she had moved to North Hollywood and given massages, or fight Gabby Garcia. | ||
| Look at this poor lady. | ||
| They told her, you're going to fight her? | ||
| I'll go to North Hollywood and suck dick. | ||
| I don't even think they give her the option. | ||
| I think they just delay the trip to North Hollywood. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Look how scared she is. | ||
| Look at her big deep breaths while she's looking at Gabby's body. | ||
| Gabby's like 6'4". | ||
| She's legit 6'4", probably 240. All natural. | ||
| Oh, totally natural. | ||
| Because all steroids are natural. | ||
| They all come from Earth. | ||
| What the fuck is going on, Japan? | ||
| So crazy. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| So crazy. | ||
| Why is that grandma even in there? | ||
| It's so rude. | ||
| And if I'm Gabby Garcia, I'm like, I just can't, man. | ||
| I'm gonna win no fans if I do this. | ||
| Well, I don't think most people have seen this. | ||
| I bet she's got the Sakuraba knee braces on and shit. | ||
| Yeah, what is the reason why she did it? | ||
| This lady. | ||
| You gotta wonder. | ||
| Look how scared. | ||
| She's scared right now. | ||
| She shook her hand after it's over. | ||
| Maybe she was a pro wrestler or something. | ||
| Yeah, I think she was a pro wrestler. | ||
| They probably gave her a big-ass payday to lose a few years of her life. | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| Yeah, what the fuck indeed. | ||
| I will say this, that's the worst Japanese freak show I've ever seen. | ||
| Because that was a woman who did not belong in there at all. | ||
| I'll say this, that's the worst fight I've ever seen. | ||
| That's the worst I've ever seen, ever. | ||
| The most brutal mismatch ever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's horrible, man. | ||
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Horrible. | |
| But Gabby's a jiu-jitsu black belt. | ||
| Why didn't Gabby just grab ahold of her and choke her? | ||
| I mean, she could have easily and not even hurt the old lady. | ||
| People will pay to watch anything on New Year's Eve. | ||
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I know, but I mean, if you're Gabby, if you're Gabby and you're looking at that... | |
| If I call you up and say, listen, I know a guy that wants to fuck his dog. | ||
| You want to come over for five hours? | ||
| New Year's Eve? | ||
| New Year's Eve. | ||
| As long as I make it to where I gotta go by midnight, I'm solid. | ||
| Did you ever see one of those videos when you were a kid? | ||
| Did you know anybody that had a VHS of Barnyard Betty? | ||
| No. | ||
| What the fuck's Barnyard Betty? | ||
| My friend Billy, when I was like 20, I guess, got a VHS tape of this chick. | ||
| That got fucked by animals, and we went to his basement. | ||
| He had to hide it, so he had to like go get it, and then we had to meet down the base, and then one of us had to watch the door. | ||
| It's a process. | ||
| So that no one would, you know, one of the parents like, so one of us was like on the stairs like looking down, you know like railings in the basement? | ||
| There's like the fucking gap between the stairs and the railings. | ||
| So I don't remember who it was, but he was like on the stairs like watching the TV through the gap because he had to be the guy with his arm up and In case the door opened. | ||
| Because we're watching this chick blow a fucking dog and blow a horse and get fucked by a donkey and all this different crazy shit. | ||
| Same lady or multiple women? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It was so grainy and so hard to tell, but it was real. | ||
| I mean, she really was like letting a dog fuck her. | ||
| She was like letting a pig fuck her. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| It was horrible. | ||
| I remember faces of death. | ||
| I couldn't even finish it. | ||
| I was so scared. | ||
| I've seen them all. | ||
| You've seen them all? | ||
| Remember the one when they tied the dude between two trucks and pulled him apart? | ||
| I don't remember that one. | ||
| Yeah, it was in the Middle East. | ||
| Yeah, I didn't get that one either. | ||
| You had that X-rated shit. | ||
| I took it off. | ||
| I remember the one with the guy that the newscaster that was walking backwards and the alligator got him. | ||
| One minute he was like, we're here at the... | ||
| You know, Clearwater, Florida, to see the raining of the ducks. | ||
| And the guy's going deeper and deeper and deeper. | ||
| All the children are here and often just see the guy go, stop it, stop it! | ||
| And somebody comes and throws a blanket like a leg pops up. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| I remember the guy hang gliding and he had like the camera and he's hang gliding and just goes into that fucking swamp and then just crocodiles. | ||
| Oh Jesus Christ. | ||
| The one with the guy hanging the power. | ||
| You ever see when you're driving and those guys are hanging the terminals and they show the guy doing something and a bolt. | ||
| Just blowing him up and him just like his hair going on fire and him just dropping. | ||
| Like they showed a monkey in China where you go to a restaurant and you hit a monkey in the head. | ||
| I don't like that shit. | ||
| Remember that one? | ||
| You hit him in the head. | ||
| Yeah, that's awful. | ||
| How about that one satanic ritual where they supposedly ate? | ||
| That's fake, though. | ||
| That was fake? | ||
| Yeah, that one's fake. | ||
| There was a few of those that they did where they staged stuff, where they were pulling out the guts. | ||
| Yeah, and then they started eating it. | ||
| It looked fake and cheesy, but that poor monkey was really screaming, man. | ||
| They were hitting him in the fucking head. | ||
| God damn. | ||
| That's a hard thing. | ||
| By the way, that's all before they knew that eating primate brains is like super bad for you. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Primates have prions in their brains. | ||
| That's where you get mad cow disease. | ||
| Like mad cow disease or Jacob Cruxfeld, however you say it, that disease comes from eating the same tissue as the species that you are. | ||
| So that's why cows get it. | ||
| Cows get it from eating brain tissue of other cows. | ||
| Like you feed cows. | ||
| That's one of the horrible things about industrialized farming is they would actually take whatever the fuck is left of the cow they're not using and they grind it up and feed it to fucking cows. | ||
| Cows that are straight vegetarian that are only supposed to be eating grass. | ||
| They're not even supposed to eat corn. | ||
| When we eat corn it fucks them up and they're feeding them cow brains. | ||
| They're feeding them their own bodies. | ||
| It was hard, and that's how they got mad cow disease. | ||
| What about your cat brains? | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| Your cat brains are good. | ||
| My mother used to slice them thin, bread them with Italian progresso and deep fry them. | ||
| God damn, a little bit of fucking lemon. | ||
| My uncle Vinny used to cook them on the grill. | ||
| Cook what? | ||
| Hold up! | ||
| Lamb brains, calf brains, calf. | ||
| What the fuck are we talking about? | ||
| Brains of a cow. | ||
| Oh, I thought you said cats. | ||
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Calf. | |
| Calf. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
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Oh, Joe! | |
| The fuck is going on here? | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm sorry. | ||
| That's such a small scoop of cat brains. | ||
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I know, I was like, what? | |
| I thought you were a cat guy. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| You could, you could. | ||
| Oh my God, my mom used to slice those cat brains. | ||
| Calf. | ||
| I heard cat. | ||
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Cow. | |
| I'm sorry, dog. | ||
| Yeah, what the? | ||
| And you squeeze lemon on them, and if I give them to you and go, go ahead, eat that chicken cutlet. | ||
| You'll go, Joey, these are the best chicken cutlets I ever fucking had. | ||
| And I'll go, they're not chicken cutlets. | ||
| They're cow's brains. | ||
| Yeah, cow brains. | ||
| It's delicious. | ||
| It's good, man. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| Don't feed it to another cow. | ||
| There's a thing called prions, and those are what the problem is. | ||
| And these prions, here's what's really crazy. | ||
| It's almost like nature has a foolproof way that has cow's brains. | ||
| Nature has a foolproof way of making sure it fucks you up with these prions. | ||
| Because these prions can exist at a thousand plus degrees for a long time. | ||
| So you can't cook them out. | ||
| They exist at a temperature way above anything you're ever going to expose your food to. | ||
| And they can, I think, find out how long prions can exist at over a thousand years. | ||
| It's something stunning, like hours, hours at a thousand degrees. | ||
| So you're not going to kill them. | ||
| So if you got them in your food, if you're eating, and where they found this also, not just in mad cow disease, but in New Guinea, in cannibals. | ||
| When they find cannibals, they exhibit the same sort of neurological issues where their whole body starts shaking. | ||
| Like with Jacob's Kruxfeld, it's a lot like Parkinson's. | ||
| They start fucking shaking. | ||
| It's a neurological disease. | ||
| Those prions from eating brain matter from human beings, it actually gets into your system and just fucks you up. | ||
| Apparently you can eat meat, though. | ||
| You can eat human meat. | ||
| It doesn't do anything. | ||
| And you're fine? | ||
| Yeah, it's human brains that's the real issue. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Who the fuck is eating human brains? | ||
| A lot of people, man. | ||
| I mean, there was one of the best pieces of evidence that human beings and homo sapiens preyed on Neanderthals was finding Neanderthal skulls with their brains scooped out. | ||
| They had scratch marks on the inside where people were scooping out the brains. | ||
| They had spoons? | ||
| They had rocks. | ||
| They had whatever the fuck they could use to scoop stuff up. | ||
| But they're scraping. | ||
| You know, when you're getting a brain, there's that connective tissue is the shit that all goes wrong when you get knocked out too many times. | ||
| And that connective tissue is this fibrous matrix that holds the brain in place. | ||
| And they're scraping that shit away with a rock or something. | ||
| Is that like a gel that covers your brain? | ||
| The fluid, yeah? | ||
| There's fluid, but there's also like tissue. | ||
| There's like fiber. | ||
| Well, maybe it was raccoon scratch and shit, you know? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's tools. | ||
| It's like deep bone scratches. | ||
| Some gnarly-ass raccoons. | ||
| Well, they've figured out... | ||
| They know the difference between what the characteristics of predatory stuff, like an animal that's gnawing on bones, and real obvious slices that came from a tool, like when human beings made those flint tools and shit like that. | ||
| So they've done enough of those tests where these archaeologists can examine these flint marks on bones and with a very high degree of certainty tell whether or not someone's using a What's one of the more interesting things about Egypt, in fact, is because there's some artifacts in Egypt that are so perplexing. | ||
| When I had John Anthony West on the podcast, he and I had some conversations about it. | ||
| It was really interesting because they don't know how the fuck they carve these things out. | ||
| There's some vases, vase, vase. | ||
| That they made out of stone that Exhibit like looks like someone cut them with a diamond like some diamond headed drill like they don't they literally don't know how they did it because it's missing all the characteristics of that you would normally get from someone making something like this like the the hole at the front is too small and it goes inside and it's all smooth inside It's like how the fuck did they did this they did it all out of stone They carved it all out of one piece of stone so they can see stuff like They found some other things, | ||
| different holes in things that they're pretty sure. | ||
| They used some sort of, if not a diamond drill, some kind of a drill with an incredibly hard tip. | ||
| But, so they know. | ||
| They know that people were eating Neanderthal brains. | ||
| Which is fucked up. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| But it makes sense. | ||
| You know, I mean, we know the Donner Party, they fucking ate each other, and they knew each other, and they ate each other. | ||
| How about that movie, Alive? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Remember that plane that went down in Argentina? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, you get hungry, you do whatever the fuck you gotta do to stay alive. | ||
| That movie was not... | ||
| Bro, imagine if we didn't go down to the plane and everybody started looking at me and shit like, dog. | ||
| Joey got some good ribs. | ||
| I wonder how long it takes. | ||
| How many days of no food does it take before you start looking at other dudes and you're like, damn. | ||
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Like his shoulder starts looking good. | |
| Well, it's also like if you were with your friend and you were like trapped somewhere, you would have to think like, okay, if I eat this dude, I have to live with that for the rest of my life. | ||
| Like even if you guys drew straws, like you said, okay, one of us is going to live, one of us is going to die. | ||
| If I come up short, I'm jumping off this fucking cliff. | ||
| You climb down the bottom and eat me. | ||
| You make an agreement with someone who's so gangster, they actually fall through that. | ||
| Some Matt Brown type character. | ||
| So if you did do that, you probably were going to die anyway, eventually. | ||
| But on your way, you'd be so ridden with guilt. | ||
| And even if you made it, even if you made it home, you'd still be thinking you'd be fucked for the rest of your life. | ||
| What kind of a life do you even have now that you ate your buddy? | ||
| That'd be a good time to know jujitsu, right? | ||
| In a plane crash and you're trying to survive up in the mountains if there's 20 people. | ||
| After a while, you just put a little... | ||
| Nah, you'd be weak. | ||
| You can't do no fucking jujitsu if you ain't eating. | ||
| Don't they say after 21 days without foods when you start getting fucked up? | ||
| That's that naked afraid shit. | ||
| Three days with water, 21 without food, right? | ||
| Yeah, well, you're fucked up pretty much right away, but your body goes into a state of ketosis and it eats off as much fat as you have. | ||
| The more fat you have, the better. | ||
| You know, we don't think about that with our carbohydrate-rich diets. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| What are you showing me, Jamie? | ||
| Survival is a last resort in the case of one group, adrift in a lifeboat, 116 passengers, 116 days passed without food before the party turned to eating human flesh. | ||
| In most cases, anything even remotely resembling food was... | ||
| First eaten, dogs, candles, leather, shoes, and blankets are all consumed first before cannibalism becomes the only recourse for survival. | ||
| Leather? | ||
| Shoes? | ||
| They eat shoes and blankets? | ||
| Yeah, blankets. | ||
| They fucking eat it? | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| Jesus. | ||
| That's dark. | ||
| What you do is you rear-naked choke one dude and just say, hey, look, you fucking had a heart attack. | ||
| And then you always have another body and you're in charge of that body and you keep telling people... | ||
| Yeah, but if you choke him out, if you choke him out, his body goes into fucking... | ||
| then the meat's gonna be tough. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's like when you shoot a deer the wrong way. | ||
| So you gotta let him die of natural causes, then the meat's tender. | ||
| Then you cut a little slice off, a leg, and you fucking tenderize it. | ||
| You gotta wait. | ||
| It's always like, I'm aging him. | ||
| You gotta age me? | ||
| I thought you were gonna kill this guy. | ||
| No, no, no, I'm killing him with kindness. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta kill him with kindness, because if you stab him, then the meat is gamey. | ||
| Gamey. | ||
| Now, bro, my buddy called me. | ||
| Did some guy go see you in Colorado? | ||
| He invented a bullet. | ||
| That as soon as it hits the duck, it has marinated in it? | ||
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What? | |
| Have you heard about this shit? | ||
| Or a bow and arrow? | ||
| I swear to God. | ||
| It has a marinade? | ||
| Something for duck that when you shoot the duck, as soon as you hit it, the marination goes in it. | ||
| I swear to God. | ||
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That's so silly. | |
| That's so ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, something crazy. | ||
| I don't think that would work. | ||
| And he hit me up and I go, he's in Denver this weekend. | ||
| Go see him. | ||
| That guy might be nuts. | ||
| What if the marination goes bad? | ||
| The thing about marinade is... | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point too. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck it was. | ||
| It was marinated or salt and pepper. | ||
| You gotta keep the bullets in the freezer. | ||
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Salt and pepper's here and we're in a fix. | |
| You gotta keep the bullets in the freezer, I think. | ||
| God, Doug, sounds like a bad business plan, though, Joey, huh? | ||
| It sounds like a dude who's high on meth and comes up with a wacky idea that's not gonna sell. | ||
| Come on, Rogan, I got these teriyaki bullets, bro. | ||
| That's what you have to do. | ||
| If you're gonna try cannibalism, shoot him with a teriyaki bullet. | ||
| But marinade is like, if you marinate a steak, you need like a pan, you fill it up with marinade, and you lay it in there, and the idea is it slowly works its way into the muscle, soaks in over like a day or two. | ||
| Let's say you shoot the duck, he's up in the air, he falls, by the time you get to him, it's two days later. | ||
| Two days later! | ||
| Let me get that sprayed, though. | ||
| Let's get the party started. | ||
| Let's get the party started. | ||
| Hey, did you guys see that Krohn fight? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| Man, Kawajiri's no joke. | ||
| That was the first big test, or first real test for Krohn. | ||
| Yeah, why don't you see if you can find that online? | ||
| Because I've only seen the finish. | ||
| I love the way he trapped the leg and caught him with Kawajiri. | ||
| He's trying to drop stomps on him and stuff, and he's off his back. | ||
| The whole rising card was sick. | ||
| It was a great card. | ||
| He pulled guard three times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| He's a freak. | ||
| People frown upon it. | ||
| Well, he's another one, but he's another one, like we're talking about, that's like an elite specialist in this one area, you know? | ||
| I mean, he's not fighting anywhere in UFC type... | ||
| Was that at 45? | ||
| I think he's 45. That was at 45, right? | ||
| Isn't he fighting at 45? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm pretty sure that was at 45. No way. | ||
| No way is Kawajira 45. That's like 55 or 70. That's Japan, so he might have weighed 45. Kawajira might have weighed 180. Did a grandma fight Gabby, for God's sake? | ||
| No, he's not that light. | ||
| I think he's 55 or 65. Krohn probably walks at... | ||
| 180. No! | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| No way. | ||
| Of course, he doesn't. | ||
| Abu Dhabi, 170. What do you think he walks around at? | ||
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I think he walks at 170. He's, dude, he has size. | |
| God, he's not 180. But when we had him on the podcast, he didn't seem that big. | ||
| He didn't seem 180, but he did seem 170. But I could be wrong. | ||
| Yeah, you know what? | ||
| He could be 170, 175. What did they weigh in at, Jamie? | ||
| What weight he fought at? | ||
| Jamie will find out for us. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He's got a figure and a kid t-shirt on. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| I'm not mad at that shirt. | ||
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Wow. | |
| A Fighter and the Kid t-shirt by The Kid. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Jamie, young, powerful Jamie. | ||
| It's good that they had that card, but didn't they have that card over three days? | ||
| Is that what happened? | ||
| They had the heavyweight tournament over three days, right? | ||
| That's kind of cool, right? | ||
| No, that's terrible for your brain. | ||
| Not for Crow Cop. | ||
| No, but for the audience. | ||
| It's like a new festival. | ||
| It's like a weekend thing. | ||
| It's like a festival. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| It's really from that movie Warriors, the only time that existed in real life up until this. | ||
| Yeah, this ain't the movies. | ||
| Guys are getting fucked up. | ||
| Except for Crow Cop. | ||
| Crow Cop. | ||
| 42. Who did he beat? | ||
| King Mo. | ||
| Time. | ||
| He beat Father Time. | ||
| King Mo, Father Time, that Iranian monster. | ||
| Big ass Iranian from AKA. How did he knock him out? | ||
| Caught him with the left hand. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| He fucked King Mo up with the left hand, too. | ||
| He'd fuck King Mo up with some kicks to the body. | ||
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Ooh! | |
| Nasty. | ||
| Threw some heat. | ||
| Look, in Ryzen, Krokop can go back to his old ways. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, there's no USADA in Japan. | ||
| As a matter of fact, they encourage it. | ||
| They're like, hop on, buddy. | ||
| They're like, what are you doing? | ||
| They both weighed in at 144.4. | ||
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Kawajiri weighed 144.4, so basically 145. In Japan, you get suspended for not doing steroids. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| So Krohn is fighting at 145. Yeah, he's a small dude. | ||
| Listen, how crazy would it be? | ||
| He got the fight to the ground so easily by just pulling guard. | ||
| There's no way he was going to take him down. | ||
| Kawajiri's got some serious wrestling. | ||
| He's a tough motherfucker. | ||
| Dude, how crazy would it be to see Krohn in the fucking UFC? That'd be sick. | ||
| He's 4-0 now, 5-0. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Ooh, trapped that leg really nice. | ||
| Look at that, look at that. | ||
| Beautiful job. | ||
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Smart. | |
| Tracked him down, dude. | ||
| He trains with the right camp to do it, too. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Who's he training with? | ||
| He's training with the Diaz brothers. | ||
| Melendez, Jake Shields, the Diaz brothers. | ||
| Jake Shields got, he lost to John Fitch yesterday. | ||
| Look at that right there. | ||
| Pulled guard right there, no problem. | ||
| Big decision, though. | ||
| 46-49. | ||
| When he's here, he likes getting in this side guard. | ||
| I call it the cliff, but it's like a side thing. | ||
| It's a good position to get good at. | ||
| Ooh, good dexterity of that right leg. | ||
| Look at how he sneaks that right leg in and gets that butterfly under the armpit. | ||
| But if you go back, back up a little, Jamie, watch how he does that. | ||
| He's such a savage. | ||
| Ooh, look how slick he is. | ||
| He has him right there. | ||
| He's such a savage. | ||
| Jamie, let's get rid of that TV this week. | ||
| We have this TV that's not designed for this. | ||
| You know how classic these images are right here, dude? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Against the ropes. | ||
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Ooh, look at that. | |
| Look at that. | ||
| This is like forever shit right here, dude. | ||
| Look at it, he's thinking. | ||
| Should I die? | ||
| This is where we saw Krohn rise, right here. | ||
| Kyle Jerry's no punk either. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is his test. | ||
| Look at him trying to flip over. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| He didn't even try to take him down. | ||
| He just kept pulling guard on him. | ||
| Because he's doing like, I'm to the dance. | ||
| Kyle Jerry tried to kick him in the face from there, and then he went, how did he get his back here? | ||
| It's a compilation? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Yeah, Krohn's jiu-jitsu is just so next level compared to these guys. | ||
| Oh, there's no one even close. | ||
| Yeah, when you're fighting MMA guys, these guys, they're just not going to have the same kind of technique that he has. | ||
| You know, and he's gonna have to get there, though. | ||
| I mean, you see... | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Boom. | ||
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Look at that. | |
| Easy takedown. | ||
| No problem. | ||
| I'll fight you off my back. | ||
| Yeah, the UFC right now would be a little tough for him, but... | ||
| Fuck yeah, it would be. | ||
| He's obviously on the right path. | ||
| But the cool thing about pulling guard and having a guard good enough to make it a good idea is you could do it at any time to anybody. | ||
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Trapped it again. | |
| Look, he... | ||
| Trapped it again that same way. | ||
| He catches that leg when the guy tries to kick him. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| And Kawajiri's a tough guy. | ||
| Can you rewind that again? | ||
| Let me see how he caught that leg. | ||
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Let's see. | |
| A little bit before that. | ||
| Before that. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| Catches it, wraps it up with his legs, and then uses it to sweep him. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| Was his dad in his corner? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| The legend was in the corner. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This is classic ass shit right here, man. | ||
| I'm not mad at the army green gloves, Ryzen. | ||
| Yeah, that's kind of cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just think that I just hope they don't continue with that three-man, three-day fight shit. | ||
| The thing that's weird though, is look at his right arm. | ||
| Look at Kawajira's right arm, what it does right here. | ||
| It's not doing anything to defend. | ||
| Look, it's not really doing anything right there. | ||
| You're in trouble. | ||
| It's not doing anything. | ||
| It's like just hanging out. | ||
| His right arm, he kind of just... | ||
| Look at that shot. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Look at that shot. | ||
| Oh, you gotta put your hands to work. | ||
| There's his dad. | ||
| There's his dad. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| The Fujita? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean, not Fujita. | ||
| Funaki. | ||
| Funaki, yeah. | ||
| Funaki, yeah. | ||
| Kyle Jury is legit, man. | ||
| This is a big statement for Crone. | ||
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Look at him! | |
| Yeah, crazy man. | ||
| What's really interesting is if he keeps going, you know, a couple more fights and continues with his stand-up training, you could easily see him fighting in the UFC in the next few years. | ||
| Easily. | ||
| Or maybe he stays at Ryzen and they sign him to an exclusive. | ||
| The Gracie's in Asia have such a big name. | ||
| Yeah, he's making bank. | ||
| He's probably making more money. | ||
| I bet they'd sign him. | ||
| No, not right away with no fights? | ||
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Krohn? | |
| Are we talking about the same thing? | ||
| Why do you think they would do that? | ||
| I'm saying Krohn right now. | ||
| What are you guys talking about? | ||
| Beginning of his career. | ||
| Before he started. | ||
| What Eddie's saying is that he went this way. | ||
| It's a smart way to go. | ||
| He fought in 1FC, I think. | ||
| He fought in 1FC, yeah. | ||
| Look, we would all be better off, everybody would be better off if Ryzen continued to blow up. | ||
| If they continued to blow up, it'd be just like Pride in the UFC back in the day. | ||
| It'd be great for everybody. | ||
| If they develop some sort of Fedor-type character, you know, if someone comes along that is like a legit consideration. | ||
| Fedor, in my opinion, is the only consideration for not only best pound for pound, but like best heavyweight ever that didn't fight in the UFC. Oh, yeah. | ||
| He's the only one. | ||
| I can't think of another one. | ||
| I think Ryzen and Bellator. | ||
| If you have those three, if you have those three big dogs where even if American fighters want to stay in America and fight and not be in the UFC, you need Bellator to develop. | ||
| Yeah, you got to pay attention to one FC, too. | ||
| I mean, that has nothing to do with Japan, Southeast Asia. | ||
| It's a whole different... | ||
| Rich Franklin runs that bitch, doesn't he? | ||
| He's got some job over there. | ||
| Wait, Rich Franklin? | ||
| No, Shotri. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Rich Franklin got some big executive job there. | ||
| Oh, he did? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, I didn't know that. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Let me ask you guys something. | ||
| Now, what's the situation with Cyborg, I think? | ||
| At this point to check. | ||
| She's pissed hot again. | ||
| They're waiting to see what the commission does. | ||
| What kind of suspension. | ||
| She's getting at least a year. | ||
| At least. | ||
| What she pissed hot for is also an anti-androgen. | ||
| It's a DHT inhibitor. | ||
| I used to rub that shit in my head to prevent hair loss. | ||
| They might give her three years. | ||
| It inhibits DHT. And it's also used by people who take steroids to diminish the effects of when females take steroids. | ||
| Diminish the effect. | ||
| It's also a masking agent. | ||
| So if you take steroids, some people take that stuff as a masking agent. | ||
| She's 31? | ||
| It's also a diuretic. | ||
| So it's a very weird drug. | ||
| It's called spironolactane. | ||
| Lactane? | ||
| Lactone? | ||
| But it has many different uses. | ||
| If she gets three years, that's no bueno. | ||
| What's her argument? | ||
| It's not a good argument. | ||
| All the arguments that she gave are not good arguments. | ||
| That she took something out of competition, that she was told by her doctor that it would be okay when it's clearly on the USADA banned list. | ||
| It's 100% banned. | ||
| It's not like... | ||
| There's certain things you could take out of contest. | ||
| Like, the big one's pot. | ||
| Like, say if they catch you tomorrow and you're supposed to fight in six months and you're smoking weed like crazy, and they test you and they go, look, we've got to test you. | ||
| You go, look, I just want to let you know I've been smoking a lot of weed. | ||
| They're like, okay, as long as it's not steroids. | ||
| That's why Jon Jones didn't get in trouble when he pissed hot for cocaine three weeks out of the fight with Daniel Cormier, because that's not in competition and it's not a performance-enhancing drug. | ||
| He's just partying, right? | ||
| So what this is, though, is a performance-enhancing drug. | ||
| Not just a performance-enhancing drug, but problematic in that it inhibits. | ||
| It's performance-enhancing in that it works as a diuretic. | ||
| You're not allowed to use diuretics. | ||
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Right. | |
| But it also inhibits their ability to detect steroids in you. | ||
| She's in trouble. | ||
| She's in trouble. | ||
| USADA is going to eat her ass up. | ||
| And if she gets three years... | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| How old is she? | ||
| She's in her mid-30s. | ||
| Mid-30s. | ||
| It's time to get going. | ||
| They tested her because she passed on three world title fights. | ||
| They had three world title fights lined up for her. | ||
| At 145, which is the weight class that she asked for, she said she couldn't make it in eight weeks, and so then they gave her more weeks. | ||
| Skeptical hippolys. | ||
| Yeah, they gave her a third test, and they were like, something's up. | ||
| And whether or not they were going to test her anyway, who knows, but that's when they tested her, and that's when she pissed hot. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| And she did not reveal before that that she was taking that. | ||
| She's in trouble, man. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Have you seen the skeptical baby? | ||
| That's huge, dude. | ||
| This is a skeptical baby now. | ||
| I see that everywhere. | ||
| Skeptical baby. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look at this baby. | ||
| That's so funny. | ||
| This baby's like, bitch! | ||
| Like, what the fuck? | ||
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That's skeptical snake, so skeptical. | |
| With Cyborg, super skeptical. | ||
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Skeptical fox. | |
| Have you seen the skeptical house? | ||
| That motherfucker's so skeptical. | ||
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A skeptical house? | |
| And there's a skeptical Cadillac. | ||
| It's so ridiculous. | ||
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A skeptical Cadillac? | |
| Look at the skeptical house! | ||
| What the fuck is that? | ||
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Look at the skeptical house! | |
| That's hilarious! | ||
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How funny is that? | |
| Is that a real house? | ||
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Yes! | |
| Those are windows! | ||
| What the fuck kind of window is that? | ||
| Skeptical windows. | ||
| Do you think they did that on purpose? | ||
| Hell no! | ||
| What's wrong with people? | ||
| It almost seems like that was an accident. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| That is funny. | ||
| But with Cyborg, she gets three years, she's in trouble. | ||
| I find the incident too when Rhonda lost again and she's throwing shade at Rhonda. | ||
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I'm like, bitch, you just got busted for steroids. | |
| How do you throw shade at someone? | ||
| Well, she didn't get busted for steroids. | ||
| She got busted for a dihydrotestosterone. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's not a precursor. | ||
| It's a dihydrotestosterone inhibitor. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Inhibitor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And to me, my brain goes, you're in trouble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We know you're in trouble. | ||
| She certainly could be in trouble. | ||
| It's one thing if she got... | ||
| She said that she's got a bunch of issues because she really did wreck her body getting down to 140, which definitely does happen. | ||
| Yeah, which I'm sure. | ||
| That seems fair to say. | ||
| The problem is when you wreck your body, like I think she's saying that she takes in too much water now and her body's like trying to hold on to water and that they gave her a drug to diminish the amount of water. | ||
| I talked to a couple of doctors about this. | ||
| I asked some questions, and they all gave me that snake face. | ||
| They're all like, fuck. | ||
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With her background, too, it's like, fuck, man. | |
| You don't fuck with anything that's illegal, and you definitely don't fuck with anything that people use because they're women that take steroids. | ||
| Even if it's just a coincidence that you happen to be, you should look at every fucking label extremely carefully. | ||
| Is that the worst cut of all time? | ||
| Yeah, it's one of them. | ||
| What do you mean cut? | ||
| But here's the thing, man. | ||
| Here's the thing cut of all time. | ||
| Fucking Diego Sanchez. | ||
| Diego Sanchez made 145. He fought him 185 in Ultimate Fighter 1. Kenny Floyd. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| She fucking deadlifts 305 pounds a couple weeks after passing on fights. | ||
| She passes on the fight and then puts up Instagrams of her deadlifting. | ||
| Massive weight! | ||
| You know, there was whoever the fuck... | ||
| Handles her Twitter account because I wrote that up because me and Brett Akimoto were having a discussion about it on Twitter. | ||
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I love that guy. | |
| Very good dude. | ||
| We were having a little back and forth on Twitter about it. | ||
| And, you know, he said, isn't it weird that she's not fighting for the title? | ||
| And I'm like, what's weird is that she passed on the title fight and then post Instagram photos of her deadlifting. | ||
| And then she responded that it's just like what football players do when they're not in camp. | ||
| Excuse me? | ||
| And I'm like, what? | ||
| You saw that Golden Snitch was like, what would you say? | ||
| Meanwhile, she's not writing that. | ||
| I'm looking at the English is perfect. | ||
| I'm like, this is not... | ||
| This is whoever works with her or her boyfriend or whoever the fuck handles the Instagram account. | ||
| I'm like, that's no excuse. | ||
| There's a lot of maintenance that you do that's not deadlifting 305 fucking pounds. | ||
| You do that to put on mass. | ||
| That is why you deadlift. | ||
| You deadlift to put on fucking mass. | ||
| She's got muto mass. | ||
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She's got... | |
| She's got plenty of mass. | ||
| She has no problem with mass. | ||
| That's not what she needs. | ||
| If she really wants to fight at 145 pounds and she needs more than eight weeks to make the weight, what she should be doing is long-term cardio and no weight lifting. | ||
| I guess that's what she's doing too, though, Joe. | ||
| She goes, I do that, and then I run every morning. | ||
| Look at this, though, dude. | ||
| Come the fuck on. | ||
| Those aren't as heavy as they look. | ||
| Trying to develop that power, son. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| No, they're made out of light rubber. | ||
| No, no, that's 300-something pounds, son. | ||
| That's 305 pounds, bro. | ||
| That's what she's doing. | ||
| This is YouTube, though. | ||
| Why did she tag Gabby Garcia? | ||
| That's worse. | ||
| Gabby Garcia helped her. | ||
| Gabby just started curling that shit. | ||
| They have the same doctor. | ||
| Fuck's sake. | ||
| The whole thing is awful. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| Whoever the fuck is in her corner that let her post that video, I'd be like, hey, hey, hey, what are you doing with your phone? | ||
| What are you doing with your phone? | ||
| You're going to put that online? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
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Give me your phone. | |
| Because the golden snitch is literally just waiting in the dark. | ||
| Yeah, if he's looking at that, he's looking at a woman deadlifting 305 for reps. | ||
| We're going there 6 a.m. | ||
| tomorrow morning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| I mean, look, it is possible that you could get that big and that jacked without anything, but it takes a long fucking time, and that's what you're doing. | ||
| That's what you're doing all the time. | ||
| If you look at some of those CrossFit gals, some of those are on steroids, 100%, but some of them are not. | ||
| And you can get big if you have the right genetics and you do that kind of lifting. | ||
| But that kind of lifting is for people that want to put on power. | ||
| She's got ridiculous power. | ||
| Cyborg has some of the nastiest power you're ever going to see in women's MMA. Probably the most. | ||
| She has the full range. | ||
| She'll kick you and knee you and punch you and elbow you, whereas Nunes will kick you hard, but it's her punches that are fucking ferocious and scary. | ||
| She doesn't hit hard in Cyborg. | ||
| No way. | ||
| Cyborg hits you like Mike Tyson with braids. | ||
| Yeah, she hits girls and you see the cognitive shutoff. | ||
| She makes world-class girls look like that grandma in Ryzen. | ||
| She's a beast. | ||
| It's just unfortunate that there's so much controversy. | ||
| Like, I would love if there was someone like Cyborg with no shade attached to it, no weirdness attached to it. | ||
| But now she's got these two strikes against her. | ||
| Well, Amanda knew this. | ||
| She has no shade. | ||
| She knocks girls out. | ||
| She just murked Misha Tate. | ||
| You know, you're probably the number two most famous girl of all time in women's MMA. And she just murked the number one. | ||
| Here's your star with no shade. | ||
| Great person. | ||
| That's the other thing that's happening with the youth now. | ||
| That they're already coming up without that pride. | ||
| We were getting a lot of guys from pride in the beginning. | ||
| The juice was okay. | ||
| These new guys, Cody's and these Amanda Nunez's, they're going to come up straight up. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| They're going to come up the right way, which is even scarier. | ||
| They're not going to flag. | ||
| There's not going to be no drama. | ||
| Maybe, I hope not, but that's what I'm saying. | ||
| You're going to see shorter careers for sure. | ||
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That this new young generation, you know, I think in MMA you're seeing short careers anyways. | |
| To me, I feel the same way as you guys do with it's sad the way Ronda lost, but it's not that sad because she had such a great run. | ||
| She was a pioneer. | ||
| She was on the Mount Rushmore of MMA in general. | ||
| She was on Mount Rushmore. | ||
| It's really not that sad. | ||
| God damn, what an iconic run, man. | ||
| Sad is like a guy like Mark Coleman or a guy like if Mark Hunt were to retire. | ||
| That's sad. | ||
| People don't have money and fame. | ||
| She's sad, man. | ||
| It's not that sad. | ||
| She did some great shit, man. | ||
| She did great things, man. | ||
| You know what's interesting here that's going on? | ||
| It's like the Ronda fans, they're not MMA fans, a lot of them. | ||
| They're Ronda fans. | ||
| And so you see how they respond to stuff on Twitter, and you see the reaction and the things that they're saying, like... | ||
| It's very emotional. | ||
| It's very emotional. | ||
| It's also almost like they don't understand. | ||
| They don't understand the sport, you know? | ||
| Get back on the horse, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, fuck the horse. | ||
| No, listen to your mom. | ||
| Your mom's saying stop. | ||
| Her mom's brilliant. | ||
| Yeah, and her mom's brutal. | ||
| She's so brutal. | ||
| She says, she goes, go let stupid people get punched in the face. | ||
| Sorry, stupid people. | ||
| Her mom's brilliant. | ||
| And she's a doctor. | ||
| And the good thing for Rhonda, too, out of all this is she's going to find out who's in her corner. | ||
| There's been so many yes, men. | ||
| You know how it is in Hollywood. | ||
| When you're on set, you know how bullshit it is. | ||
| Your agents, these other people you're working with, these other celebrities telling you how good you are. | ||
| Well, now when you lose, that phone stops ringing and the texts stop coming. | ||
| Everyone asks you to dinner, you're going to find out who's in your corner. | ||
| That's probably what they might be good for her. | ||
| Now let me ask, what movies did she do the last two years? | ||
| Because I heard they cut her one thing down and the other one disappeared. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Who knows what kind of deal she has, but things definitely dried up substantially after the Holly knockout because she's not the same person anymore. | ||
| The thing about all those deals is when you're a winner in Hollywood and they start throwing all these movies at you and you're some athlete that's coming over... | ||
| It's all predicated on you being that person that they're selling, right? | ||
| What are they selling? | ||
| They're selling this undefeated women's ass kicker. | ||
| The likes you've never seen before, right? | ||
| Throwing people in their head, getting them in arm bars. | ||
| That's what they're selling. | ||
| Well, that's not you anymore. | ||
| Now you just got smashed by Holly and then smashed again by Amanda. | ||
| Yeah, they can't sell your acting abilities. | ||
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You're not going to be in Shawshank 2. You need acting 2. Did she do Roadhouse? | |
| Did she redo Roadhouse? | ||
| I don't know about any of that stuff. | ||
| I just know, to his point, where it's almost a good thing for her. | ||
| It really is, man. | ||
| It's not a sad story. | ||
| I don't find it as a sad story. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| Well, it's definitely sad. | ||
| Well, she was an angel. | ||
| But it's not the saddest. | ||
| She did what she had to do and she disappeared, bro. | ||
| It's not the saddest story. | ||
| She leaves her all that money. | ||
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It's no different. | |
| Do we feel sorry for Tiger Woods? | ||
| Like I said, when that foundation rocks, like, what do you think is different with Tiger? | ||
| His swing? | ||
| No. | ||
| His body? | ||
| No. | ||
| The difference is Tiger Woods didn't get the fuck beat out of him in 48 seconds. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And that's fighting. | ||
| But what I'm saying is their mentality changes. | ||
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Right. | |
| Where Tiger was unstoppable. | ||
| And then something happens. | ||
| He's had that. | ||
| He had the scandal. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But then he also had some significant back injuries. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Or, okay, for a better example to your fight example, Mike Tyson. | ||
| Yeah, that's also wear and tear, too, man. | ||
| Ah, yeah, you can say that. | ||
| For Ronda, too. | ||
| For Ronda, too, it's wear and tear. | ||
| I'll tell you why I can say that. | ||
| One of the reasons why is because the driver that I had this weekend in Vegas that took me to the airport was Mike Tyson's driver for 17 years. | ||
| He and I had a long conversation. | ||
| Cool dude. | ||
| I wish I could remember his fucking name. | ||
| Because I only met him for that brief ride to the airport. | ||
| But he was telling me how fucked up Tyson was after the Lennox Lewis fight. | ||
| He's like, dude, Lennox Lewis hit Mike, and Mike was fucked up for a long time for that. | ||
| And you don't think that. | ||
| You watch a guy get knocked out, you watch a guy get stopped, and Mike was talking after the fight, and he was like, hey, I'm done, it's over, and he stepped back. | ||
| But when he goes home, and he's alone, and the cameras are off, and he's got vertigo, and he's got equilibrium problems, and his ears won't stop ringing, and his head won't stop throbbing, you don't see that. | ||
| He's doing interviews, his head's throbbing, his ears are ringing. | ||
| There was no internet back then. | ||
| It's harder to hide nowadays, you know what I mean? | ||
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Way harder. | |
| When you've got your daily thing that you do, and everybody, you've got your followers, and they all know your daily thing, and you guys are doing the daily things, and all of a sudden you disappear. | ||
| You disappear. | ||
| Everybody knows you disappear. | ||
| Back then, no one really knew. | ||
| You lost a fight. | ||
| You never really see him again. | ||
| But it's also, like, when you're suffering alone, the only way people find out is if you talk about it. | ||
| Like, we don't know what happens to a lot of these guys after they get beat the fuck up. | ||
| You know, here's one. | ||
| Terry Edom. | ||
| When Terry Edom got knocked out by Edson Barboza. | ||
| The wheel kick from another dimension. | ||
| It was the first wheel kick KO in the UFC and the worst wheel kick KO. It was fucking horrible. | ||
| And he has never been the same again. | ||
| Does he still fight? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's fought a few times. | ||
| I feel bad saying that. | ||
| But before that, Terry Edom was a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He was really good. | ||
| And Terry Edom was one of those kids that was coming up like a lot of other guys in the division. | ||
| He's looking like he might be a contender someday. | ||
| He's slick. | ||
| He's got a good kickboxing style. | ||
| He's got good submissions. | ||
| He works hard. | ||
| He's a smart fighter. | ||
| He's a good guy. | ||
| You meet him. | ||
| He's a gentleman. | ||
| You're like, this kid might have real potential. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Yeah! | ||
| You get hit with those goddamn kicks. | ||
| And it's life changing. | ||
| And that's why, to Dana's point, you make as much as you can when you're there, man. | ||
| That's why your boy Tony Ferguson holding out and being like, I need more money. | ||
| He could get wheel kicked. | ||
| The chance of it happening, not good. | ||
| But he could get wheel kicked. | ||
| So that's why he was like, dude, I need as much money as possible. | ||
| Well, he's not going to get wheel kicked against Nurmagomedov, but he could against Barboza. | ||
| He fought Barboza. | ||
| He beat him. | ||
| That Barboza fight was amazing. | ||
| That was a good fight. | ||
| Oh, Turney's so fun. | ||
| Tony Ferguson is one of my favorite guys to watch, for sure. | ||
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Oh, hell yeah. | |
| He's so fun. | ||
| He's, like you said, he's a straight Barbarian. | ||
| I hope they figure it out. | ||
| What's going on with that? | ||
| Because I saw he posted Instagram that he's in Big Bear. | ||
| He's in Big Bear with his family, enjoying the snow. | ||
| Oh, just chilling? | ||
| He's not training? | ||
| I thought he was going up there to train. | ||
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I thought it was on. | |
| Not that I know of. | ||
| You know what they're trying to do? | ||
| They're trying to do Aldo and Nurmagomedov for a fucking interim 155. And I'm like, how do you have a 155 interim when Conor just won the 155 a week ago? | ||
| What about Max, though? | ||
| What about Max Holloway? | ||
| Poor Max Holloway. | ||
| Well, he's got the interim 145. Such a shit show. | ||
| And Holloway is the interim. | ||
| I don't give a fuck, because Aldo vs. | ||
| Negomurdov is sick. | ||
| Yeah, it's a great fight. | ||
| Well, especially when you see what happened with Michael Johnson. | ||
| Michael Johnson's stunned. | ||
| Habib. | ||
| You know, he stung him. | ||
| He hit him and stung him. | ||
| And Michael Johnson, with all due respect, is nowhere near the striker that Jose Aldo is. | ||
| Jose Aldo's on a totally different level. | ||
| You think Jose's as powerful as Johnson? | ||
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Explosive? | |
| That's a very good question, because he's not as big. | ||
| He's been fighting at 145 his whole career, and he's going to be fighting a fucking gorilla. | ||
| There's a difference between Johnson's bottom game and Aldo's bottom game. | ||
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100%. | |
| Aldo's will be way better. | ||
| Also, Aldo's kicks, they're a giant factor. | ||
| Because if Aldo, who has amazing takedown defense, fucking amazing, Aldo has some of the best takedown defense. | ||
| So he's also got fucking nasty leg kicks. | ||
| So if Nurmagomedov moves at him, What is this? | ||
| Who is this? | ||
| What are you showing me here? | ||
| Habib Nurmagomedov slams UFC for lying to the fans about Jose Aldo. | ||
| Demands relevant fight against... | ||
| Why is he saying he's lying to the fans? | ||
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Let's see. | |
| Let's see what he says here. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| No, it'll come back on. | ||
| This goddamn screen, dude. | ||
| It's clear to everyone that you hiding Connor from me... | ||
| But stop lying to your fans like I don't want fight with Aldo. | ||
| I'm ready to fight with anyone in my division. | ||
| Give me relevant fight so you won't... | ||
| First of all, take your phone away from your sister. | ||
| Somebody got this phone and making... | ||
| No, he's definitely doing it. | ||
| The broken English is so rough, but I love it. | ||
| It makes it more gangster. | ||
| Okay, you've never matched up. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| I can't see that, Jamie. | ||
| This thing's in front of me. | ||
| Oh, you've never matched up two guys with a 9-8 win streak in UFC. Never in UFC history. | ||
| Okay, that doesn't mean anything. | ||
| See, here's the problem. | ||
| Sorry, Tony Ferguson is too expensive. | ||
| I see what he's saying, but let me explain why he's wrong. | ||
| They need big, relevant fights to sell pay-per-views right now. | ||
| That's all they care about. | ||
| And here's the deal. | ||
| The UFC was purchased for $4 billion. | ||
| Billion. | ||
| Imagine if you bought a... | ||
| I mean, you own a place, right? | ||
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Correct. | |
| You own your house? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know what a mortgage is. | ||
| Sure do. | ||
| Mortgages are pretty cunty. | ||
| You look at them every month and go, Jesus. | ||
| Now, if you have a mortgage for a nice house and you spend a million bucks, That's a fucking nut you got to make every month, man. | ||
| You got to think about it. | ||
| You got to go, okay, we got the mortgages covered. | ||
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All right. | |
| And then you move on with all the other bills, right? | ||
| Tell me about it, son. | ||
| Imagine a $4 billion house. | ||
| What kind of fucking mortgage? | ||
| And how do we pay the bills? | ||
| By doing huge fights. | ||
| Huge fights. | ||
| So we got to figure some shit out. | ||
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Huge fights. | |
| Interim, interim, interim. | ||
| Everybody got a belt. | ||
| And the reality is, Jon Jones is suspended, and Jon Jones isn't even the champ right now. | ||
| So when he comes back, he's not even fighting for a world title, unless he fights for the world title. | ||
| So you gotta have... | ||
| DC has gotta be healthy, or you gotta have Jon fight for an interim. | ||
| Because they're just throwing interims out like they're fucking flyers that they put on your car when dudes are trying to sell car washes and shit. | ||
| It's a good time to be in the UFC. And my brother... | ||
| If they don't start getting these fucking cards selling, there's going to be another season of Fear Factor's going to be added on pretty soon. | ||
| No, there's not. | ||
| No, there's not. | ||
| You're going to see CM Punk versus some Brad Pitt shit just to sell pay-per-views or some shit. | ||
| They'll do something, dawg. | ||
| I don't know what they're going to do. | ||
| You know, who knows if I'll be there for it. | ||
| But when you look at the title picture, that card that they have in Brooklyn, I mean, that's a pay-per-view card, and it looks like an FS1 card right now. | ||
| I'm sure they're going to juice it up. | ||
| They'll get more. | ||
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You better be a die-hard fan to pay $60 for that shit. | |
| It's hard. | ||
| It's hard to make those cards. | ||
| So I think we kind of nailed it when we were talking about it earlier. | ||
| Like, what guys sell pay-per-views? | ||
| I think Woodley is a bigger star now than he beat Wonderboy, but he still wants that big... | ||
| And Dana and I were having this conversation. | ||
| He's like, you can't have Nick Diaz. | ||
| He goes, Nick Diaz hasn't won a fight since 2011. You can't have him step in and just go right up to the title and fight. | ||
| It sells, though, though. | ||
| That's what I said. | ||
| I said, but I want to see it. | ||
| And he goes, I want to see it, too. | ||
| But you can't just do that. | ||
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You can't sell it. | |
| Well, no one's going to take the sport serious. | ||
| If you give a guy who hasn't won since 2011 or 12, give him a title shot. | ||
| Fans are going to be like, come on, bro. | ||
| You say that, but I think they missed the boat if they wanted to make the fucking big money. | ||
| It's Nick Diaz versus Conor McGregor. | ||
| No, he's too big, brother. | ||
| Whatever, they fight at 170. Oh, come on! | ||
| Connor fought at 170. His brother was too big for him. | ||
| Do you think he's too big? | ||
| Way too big. | ||
| I think that talk is nonsense, because Connor's a 155-pound champ. | ||
| Nate fought at 155 most of his career. | ||
| He fought at 170 a couple of times, and he's undersized. | ||
| Dong Yong Kim beat him at 170. He's a good... | ||
| He's a legit 170-er, though. | ||
| Especially now. | ||
| He's older now, too. | ||
| Maybe, but he fights 155 easy. | ||
| He looked great against Michael McDonald at 55. Tyron Woodley can't make 55. He looked great against Michael Johnson. | ||
| If his fucking life depends on it, Tyron Woodley's not going to make it 55. I know, and he's entertaining that fun. | ||
| The champ can't make 155 at 170. Nate can't. | ||
| So Nate is not a real 170. Now here's to your point, and Dana's point, he hasn't won a fight since 2011, and you're going to have Conor, your cash cow, fight this monster who hasn't won forever? | ||
| It's a great story. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| I love a great story. | ||
| Big Brother steps in? | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| I would watch it. | ||
| I would watch it, man. | ||
| But to your point, they have to figure something out to get these stars. | ||
| Because you can't do it overnight. | ||
| To me, it doesn't matter. | ||
| You put Nick Diaz for what he's done out of respect, who's going to complain? | ||
| Well, apparently they offered Nick Diaz Robbie Lawler. | ||
| And Nick passed on it. | ||
| That's the word. | ||
| That's the word behind the scenes. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Maybe I'm not supposed to say that. | ||
| But I wanted to see that fight. | ||
| I would love to see that rematch. | ||
| But I think Nick wants a fucking title fight. | ||
| I think Nick is like, look, I want a big, big name or a title fight. | ||
| I love how they make these demands now. | ||
| He's got money. | ||
| Nick made some money. | ||
| He's not ridiculous. | ||
| He doesn't spend it all. | ||
| Well, how about Nate? | ||
| I'm not answering the call unless it's $20 million. | ||
| Yeah, we talked about that. | ||
| Get him, son! | ||
| We talked about that recently in the podcast. | ||
| I was like, well, let's break this down. | ||
| Because, like, let's say they do a million pay-per-view buys, which is, like, top end, right? | ||
| There's only a few people that have ever sold a million. | ||
| It's like Brock, Rhonda, Connor. | ||
| That's it, okay? | ||
| A million is top of the food chain. | ||
| So a million pay-per-view buys at $60, you're taking one-third right off the bat for Nate. | ||
| It's really hard to justify giving someone $20 million for a fight. | ||
| It's going to be real hard. | ||
| Connor could demand that. | ||
| Conor's like one of the only guys that can get that kind of money. | ||
| He's the only guy. | ||
| You think eventually guys will just start doing, like they get so big, like Conor. | ||
| He just does his own show and he gets his own people to produce. | ||
| No, the UFC lawyers are too good to let you get out of your contract to do that. | ||
| They realize that. | ||
| If Nate had a legit fight with someone other than Conor that was exciting, the problem is there's no one else in the division that's got that kind of marquee value. | ||
| At 55? | ||
| Yeah, there's no one in the division that has the kind of marquee value that if you had a... | ||
| Look, I think Nate is a fucking huge star. | ||
| Especially now. | ||
| I mean, after he beat Conor, he's one of the biggest stars outside of that upper echelon pay-per-view level. | ||
| I give him top ten. | ||
| But he's not a world title holder right now. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, if you wanted to really have a big fight for Nate, you would have to have him, that would work. | ||
| Have him fight Aldo. | ||
| That would work. | ||
| And the winner of that fight's color. | ||
| Is GSP ever coming back? | ||
| GSP, apparently, they couldn't work out the deal with the Reebok deal. | ||
| Like, he's got a deal with Under Armour. | ||
| He's got a big deal with Under Armour. | ||
| He makes a lot of money through Under Armour. | ||
| Monthly shit. | ||
| Yeah, and so he couldn't work out a deal that was worth it to him. | ||
| There was an offer on the table. | ||
| He didn't like it. | ||
| They're still talking. | ||
| He still says he wants a fight. | ||
| But if the UFC, now that they've lost Ronda, most likely lost Ronda. | ||
| We don't know what happens. | ||
| She's not the same draw anymore. | ||
| She's definitely not the same draw anymore. | ||
| It's a tough sell. | ||
| Definitely a tough sell. | ||
| But, I mean, who fucking knows, a year and a half down the line, she's still only, what is she, 29? | ||
| She's 30. I think Rhonda can still get pay-per-views if she comes back in a year. | ||
| For sure, but it's not the same. | ||
| It's not the same. | ||
| That babysitting money flows like water. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| People will not want to watch it even more. | ||
| But she's not fighting anytime soon, so you can't bank on her as part of your stable. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| So you got to move on from it. | ||
| If she comes, great. | ||
| Let's keep going. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's interesting, man. | ||
| It's a crazy sport. | ||
| It goes up, it goes down, it moves all over the place. | ||
| Every sport's like this, though. | ||
| Here's the other thing. | ||
| When is Brock Lesnar back? | ||
| I mean, if Brock Lesnar's suspended... | ||
| The first of never. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| God damn it, son. | ||
| Listen, he only got suspended for clomiphene. | ||
| Clomiphene, even though it enhances steroids, your recovery from steroids, because it reduces estrogen. | ||
| It's post-psychotherapy for steroids. | ||
| It's definitely not good. | ||
| But it also exists in a bunch of different supplements, like over-the-counter stuff. | ||
| Hey, man, a jargon he wasn't taking? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| What I'm saying is, how much time do you think they're going to give him off? | ||
| Like, how much time are they going to... | ||
| How many times are we going to let him not do the USADA test and go in there and beat up a guy? | ||
| But no, no, no. | ||
| He'll have to do the USADA test again. | ||
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He didn't last time. | |
| Because the last time he did it, they had a couple exemptions where they can get in on the four-month thing that they built in in case they wanted to make a big fight where they could sign somebody. | ||
| So that one obviously blows up in their face. | ||
| And... | ||
| He's gonna get suspended, but how long? | ||
| For how long? | ||
| I thought they gave him a year and $225,000 fine. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Pretty sure. | ||
| Okay, so that's from what? | ||
| July? | ||
| Yeah, it's all... | ||
| That's retroactive. | ||
| Yeah, retroactive. | ||
| So that ain't that long from now. | ||
| We're in January, February, March, April, May, June, six months. | ||
| Then the heavyweight division needs him. | ||
| Fuck yeah! | ||
| John Jones, first heavyweight fight, Brock Lesnar. | ||
| You're welcome. | ||
| Can you imagine that fight? | ||
| John would murk him. | ||
| Do you think so? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He'd murk him in the grappling? | ||
| I think you're just completely down there. | ||
| I think fucking Steopik would fucking wreck him. | ||
| You piss that motherfucker off in Cleveland and he'll fuck Brock Lesnar. | ||
| Because he'll say it. | ||
| You better do the fucking steroids. | ||
| Steopik is crazy. | ||
| I love that motherfucker. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| He's got that immigrant mentality. | ||
| Bring him on. | ||
| He's born in America. | ||
| Give him more fucking steroids. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| He's born in America. | ||
| Yeah, whatever the fuck he is, but his name is Miocic. | ||
| Definitely born and raised in Cleveland, Ohio, but whatever. | ||
| He's got that fucking crazy blood in him. | ||
| And he don't give a fuck. | ||
| He proved it. | ||
| Listen, he proved it with fucking Overeem. | ||
| He don't give a fuck. | ||
| Put him in there with Brock Lesnar. | ||
| Go ahead, I dare you. | ||
| The Brock that fought Mark Hunt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That juice to the gill, fucking Brock Lennon, who just ragdolled poor Mark Hunt, fucking guy. | ||
| Yeah, but Mark Hunt's never been the kind of grappler that Stipe is. | ||
| Stipe's way better at defending takedowns. | ||
| Oh, no, I think Stipe beats him. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| If he punches Stipe in the face, it's going to get more steam out of his fucking ears. | ||
| And you saw what Stipe did to Mark Hunt. | ||
| He won't land a hit on Stipe. | ||
| Brock Lesnar ain't coming back. | ||
| Brock Lesnar ain't never coming back. | ||
| Well, he's not going to come back and fight for a world title right away. | ||
| You don't think so? | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| That was the biggest embarrassment of the fucking year. | ||
| That was the biggest fucking embarrassment of the year. | ||
| Why would that be? | ||
| Embarrassment, bro. | ||
| What was embarrassing? | ||
| Just embarrassing him against Mark Hunt. | ||
| They knew he was on the juice. | ||
| He went in there loaded to the gills. | ||
| It was just an embarrassing fucking thing. | ||
| It was an embarrassing thing for everybody. | ||
| And Mark Hunt had every fucking right to be mad. | ||
| They put him in there with a guy that's coming off rocket fucking fuel. | ||
| That dude just don't eat D-ball. | ||
| Look at the size of his fucking head. | ||
| He's taking shit that makes your fucking That's what they give the fucking pitbulls. | ||
| I hope they put them against Mayo chicks. | ||
| I will fly to fucking Cleveland. | ||
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That gum is climbing out of your mouth. | |
| I found this knot in my nose that was bigger than this gum. | ||
| They had to take the gum out to eat it. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
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You ate a booger? | |
| Oh, it was so long. | ||
| It was like a coke booger. | ||
| I got a flashback from the 80s. | ||
| I inhaled that motherfucker anyway. | ||
| Why did you eat a booger? | ||
| Because I love him. | ||
| I love them. | ||
| From time to time, I have a little pimple. | ||
| What the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| And I squeeze it, and it just comes out like a stream. | ||
| And it's got like a little clam. | ||
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I was on board with you with all the Stephen A talking shit. | |
| Do you really eat boogers? | ||
| Listen, from time to time, when you do coke for 30 years, it's a habit. | ||
| You wake up in the morning, pick one out. | ||
| It's like a fucking candy cane with coke on it. | ||
| You inhale that motherfucker. | ||
| It's like going to the dentist for free. | ||
| I will throw up on this fucking table. | ||
| Do you ever do this? | ||
| I feel lightheaded. | ||
| While you're eating boogers. | ||
| Let's be honest with ourselves. | ||
| We're all friends here. | ||
| That was the most embarrassing fucking thing I ever seen. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| They knew he was on it, and they put that fucking animal in there, okay? | ||
| And you know what, man? | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Keep doing those steroids. | ||
| Put him in there against Spielberg. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I love that Cleveland motherfucker dude. | ||
| Stipe. | ||
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Just call him Stipe. | |
| He'll kill him. | ||
| He'll fucking kill him in general. | ||
| I don't think they would ever be able to have him come off a suspension and fight for the title. | ||
| That's not how it goes. | ||
| They've done it before. | ||
| Four billion dollars. | ||
| They'll eat a scab off an Iranian's head right now. | ||
| Four billion dollars. | ||
| Right now, they're fucking sitting there going, we lost Ronda. | ||
| Take the gum out of your mouth. | ||
| You're driving me crazy. | ||
| Give me a tissue. | ||
| We lost Ronda, and the only other thing we got is fucking Conor. | ||
| He's having a baby. | ||
| He don't want to fucking come back. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's talking about he might come back right after the first of the year. | ||
| Yeah, but they don't want to give him who he's supposed to fight. | ||
| Who's he supposed to fight? | ||
| He's supposed to fight that fucking Khal Habib. | ||
| End of story. | ||
| End of story. | ||
| No more fucking around. | ||
| But they would give him that. | ||
| No more fucking around. | ||
| Well, then let's do it. | ||
| Let's set it up. | ||
| No, that's not a money fight. | ||
| Yeah, I'm with Joey. | ||
| Let's fucking do it. | ||
| Let's fuck that shit. | ||
| You don't need to fight Aldo. | ||
| You don't need to fight nobody. | ||
| He's number one, right? | ||
| Or is your boy number one? | ||
| Tony? | ||
| Khabib's number one. | ||
| Okay, then that's the fight. | ||
| Enough. | ||
| But wait a minute, Tony was number one, and then Khabib became number one. | ||
| Why did Khabib leapfrog Tony? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Who knows the rankings? | ||
| Those two should really fight. | ||
| But he's only fought a couple times in the past X amount of years. | ||
| Khabib's number one. | ||
| Well, that's the thing he did. | ||
| Listen, he's fighting now. | ||
| He's available today. | ||
| He's available today. | ||
| He's available for Brooklyn. | ||
| He said it when he fought against Michael Johnson. | ||
| He's available for fucking Brooklyn. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| He's available for Brooklyn. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Let's get Eddie against Raphael. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| Let's get Edson back in there. | ||
| People like watching him. | ||
| Eddie and Raphael just fought. | ||
| Let's get Bonio DeRius in there. | ||
| We got some fucking people here, okay? | ||
| Yeah, a lot of good guys here. | ||
| We got a lot of everywhere. | ||
| Where the fuck are they? | ||
| Why aren't they fighting? | ||
| This guy here, this kid here, he sells pay-per-views. | ||
| Donald Cerrone. | ||
| Not 300,000. | ||
| But he's always good. | ||
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But he's fighting at 170. Robbie Lawler, that guy there is good. | |
| They got it. | ||
| Joey needs to be the matchmaker. | ||
| They fucking got it, okay? | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Yeah, man, it's an interesting situation, isn't it? | ||
| They got plenty of good fucking fighters. | ||
| They got a whole shitload of them. | ||
| They just don't want to give us the fights we want to see. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| That's the fucking problem. | ||
| What fight don't they want to give you? | ||
| I want to see Khal Habib. | ||
| That's the fight. | ||
| Habib. | ||
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That's it. | |
| End the story. | ||
| There's no Aldo. | ||
| There's no Tony Ferguson. | ||
| There's no babies. | ||
| There's no nothing. | ||
| But he has a baby. | ||
| Brooklyn. | ||
| But he's got a baby. | ||
| But it's also not a big draw for him. | ||
| It's not a big draw for him, Joey. | ||
| You got three babies. | ||
| I throw 20 million on you. | ||
| The babies wait six weeks. | ||
| But Conor's already got 20 million. | ||
| That's the difference. | ||
| He wants to take time. | ||
| His life is more important than what the UFC wants. | ||
| He's running the show. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
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He's running the show. | |
| Then May 5th, Memorial Day weekend. | ||
| Let's call Habib and him. | ||
| Habib. | ||
| Say it. | ||
| Habib. | ||
| Habib. | ||
| Habib Nurmagomedov. | ||
| Give Ferguson Saron. | ||
| Let's have some fun. | ||
| Give Ferguson Saron. | ||
| Let's have some fucking fun. | ||
| That's a fight. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Saron is not fighting 55 again. | ||
| I didn't say that, but we're all mixing. | ||
| We're all mixing weights right now. | ||
| Did we not say that before? | ||
| They want to put Aldo against Khabib. | ||
| But no, Aldo's thinking about moving up anyway. | ||
| Moving up anyway, so who gives a fuck? | ||
| It seems like he's kind of chasing like a chess move. | ||
| Yeah, he's chasing. | ||
| He's chasing. | ||
| He wants that fight. | ||
| He wants that fight. | ||
| That's what everybody wants to see again, whatever the fucking order is. | ||
| But the order that they're trying to put together is the order that I don't want to see. | ||
| Well, because they have to sell pay-per-views, Joey. | ||
| They're going to do this, okay? | ||
| This is the route, you fucks. | ||
| The rap they want to do is they're going to bring him back against fucking the black dude at 170. That's the fight. | ||
| Tyron Woodley? | ||
| That's already been made at the thing. | ||
| That's going to come together. | ||
| Slow the fuck down. | ||
| Watch it. | ||
| Watch it. | ||
| Well, we just said that Woodley's going to fight Bisping in a catchweight fight. | ||
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I know. | |
| I know. | ||
| That's all great. | ||
| They're going to fight. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| You think that Tyron Woodley is going to fight... | ||
| Tyron Woodley. | ||
| That was already established in New York. | ||
| Tyron Woodley. | ||
| Tyron. | ||
| Tyron Woodley is already going to fucking fight him, okay? | ||
| That's the first fight. | ||
| Then they're gonna try to... | ||
| That's the fight they're gonna put there at 170 maybe in May. | ||
| What happened to Khabib? | ||
| Then they're gonna... | ||
| This is what... | ||
| So you think he's gonna go to 170 and fight for the title? | ||
| This isn't my fucking decision. | ||
| This isn't my decision. | ||
| This is beyond you. | ||
| This is beyond me. | ||
| How do you know this? | ||
| Because I haven't really seen the setup at the fucking New York where you fucking blind because you didn't see what I see. | ||
| But I talked to them. | ||
| I know you talked to them, but they don't tell you dick. | ||
| But I'm talking to the people behind the scenes. | ||
| You didn't know they were getting sold. | ||
| You didn't know until they fucking sold it. | ||
| I did at the end. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| But the problem is here that the seed was already planted in New York. | ||
| It was already planted. | ||
| None of you motherfuckers saw it. | ||
| What are you guys watching? | ||
| What seed? | ||
| The seed of him talking back and forth with Tyron Woodley, okay? | ||
| That's the fucking seed! | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| That's the fucking seed! | ||
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It smells like a zoo in your mouth. | |
| He's gonna look at Kalabeeb already at the press conference. | ||
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Kalabeeb again? | |
| Already Khabib. | ||
| He said he doesn't fight enough. | ||
| Okay, what's going on here? | ||
| That's kind of Wayne's talking shit tone. | ||
| That's the scene, you dumb fucks! | ||
| That's the scene! | ||
| What's happening here? | ||
| What is he saying? | ||
| He's just talking shit to him. | ||
| Can we hear what he said? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| It went on. | ||
| It's just Conor talking shit. | ||
| And then Tyron said some shit. | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| Did it come out? | ||
| He said something like, you're lucky I don't come to 70 or something. | ||
| We can do it. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Try to be cute with him. | ||
| See? | ||
| Hey, bro. | ||
| It got set up right there. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| So that's the next fucking fight, guys. | ||
| It's Connor saying we can do it at 70. We can do it at 70. Damn! | ||
| Joey, what is that shit? | ||
| You people don't see dick because you see what you want to fucking see. | ||
| That's the next fight. | ||
| He already planted the fucking seed. | ||
| He's not going to fight Tyron. | ||
| He's going to fight Tyron. | ||
| And killed more time for Colin Bean like they threw Dennis Seaver on him when Frankie Edgar was fucking lurking. | ||
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When Frankie Edgar was running, they threw Dennis Seaver out of him. | |
| Oh, poor Dennis Seaver. | ||
| Dennis Seaver's available. | ||
| Look at the color of his skin. | ||
| Look how red he gets. | ||
| Hey, he's talking some truth here. | ||
| It's in between fucking. | ||
| He doesn't want to fight Ferguson. | ||
| He's not gonna fight Tony Ferguson! | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It's not just, bro! | ||
| It's too much hype, and Tony Ferguson don't give a fuck. | ||
| He's a barbarian. | ||
| He is backstage again. | ||
| Who fucking farted? | ||
| That is a horrible fart. | ||
| That was me. | ||
| It's a tremendous fart. | ||
| Sounds like a zoo up in this bitch. | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
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They are going out. | |
| Don't fucking tell me, guys. | ||
| Let's get some volume on that. | ||
| Can we get volume on that? | ||
| Back there? | ||
| Let me hear this. | ||
| Go all the way back. | ||
| Way back. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Crank it up. | ||
| He's setting it up. | ||
| She's setting up the 170 belt. | ||
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Please walk this way. | |
| Put your little camera on. | ||
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Listen. | |
| Get like a woman. | ||
| There's eight guys there, guys. | ||
| You're like a woman with that phone. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| You know what's crazy? | ||
| Look how drained Tyron looks. | ||
| Let's hear it. | ||
| Rewind it again. | ||
| Rewind that. | ||
| Rewind that. | ||
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Shh. | |
| What's up? | ||
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Not much. | |
| We need your assistance. | ||
| You hear that lady terrified? | ||
| He just said, what's up? | ||
| And he stared at him down. | ||
| Conor said, what's up? | ||
| He said, not much. | ||
| But meanwhile, you look at Tyron. | ||
| Tyron looks so drained there when he made that weight. | ||
| It's like right after he made the weight. | ||
| I'll tell you what's crazy. | ||
| I like Conor's chances in that fight. | ||
| He's going to go for three fucking bouts, guys. | ||
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How crazy is that? | |
| I can't believe nobody ever saw this shit. | ||
| He's not going to fight Ferguson because it's a fucking... | ||
| Aerosmith? | ||
| Guns N' Roses was Aerosmith on steroids. | ||
| And Tony Ferguson is little Diaz... | ||
| With fucking... | ||
| Elk blood in him. | ||
| You understand me? | ||
| He don't want that kid. | ||
| He don't want Tony Ferguson. | ||
| He don't want Tony Ferguson. | ||
| And Dana, Uncle Dana, Uncle John, Uncle Bobby Dana is not going to let his nephew fight Khal Abib, okay? | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
| Conor versus Tony is not a draw? | ||
| It's not a draw for Conor. | ||
| I know he's your guy, Eddie. | ||
| That's a big fucking fight. | ||
| Tony versus Conor? | ||
| That's a big fucking fight, though. | ||
| Even Tony versus Khabib. | ||
| That's a huge fight. | ||
| Why don't you think they're making it, Eddie? | ||
| You tell me. | ||
| Why do you think they're making it? | ||
| It's not going to sell. | ||
| And I love these guys. | ||
| I'm not clowning your guy. | ||
| But as far as the average consumer buying a pay-per-view, that's not a sell. | ||
| It's just not. | ||
| Hell yeah it is. | ||
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I disagree. | |
| Conner fighting anybody is a sale. | ||
| Conner fighting anybody is a sale. | ||
| Conner fighting a top challenger is always a sale. | ||
| But Tony Ferguson is most certainly a top challenger. | ||
| When Nate Diaz fought Conor for the first time, it was a giant fight because Nate Diaz had a name, and he's a bigger name than Tony, arguably, for sure. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| Much bigger now, after he beat him. | ||
| The Diaz brothers and Tony? | ||
| It wasn't the same as it is now. | ||
| It's a different thing now. | ||
| It's a different thing now. | ||
| But he had it because of Nick, and Nick had all the Strikeforce success, Elite XC success, you know, there's a lot of TV time there. | ||
| Nick was the ultimate fighter winner. | ||
| Nate. | ||
| And then on top of that, Nick had just got done beating Anderson, or fighting Anderson, rather. | ||
| And, you know, Nick is like a pretty well-known figure, right? | ||
| His brother. | ||
| The Diaz brothers are like... | ||
| So that's a different level. | ||
| But having him take that fight on short notice, too. | ||
| But Conor was the main draw, is my point. | ||
| Conor's the main draw. | ||
| Conor's the main draw. | ||
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And I agree. | |
| But this is why Conor's not taking it. | ||
| Because I agree. | ||
| He's the main draw. | ||
| If you're Conor and you're his manager, you're going, let's fight Tony, who's a tough fucking matchup, but he's not as big as the name as a guy like Nate Diaz at 55, who we're going to make more money, maybe not as tough as a fight, bigger name. | ||
| So they're doing it from a business point. | ||
| That's why he's not fighting Tony. | ||
| That's why he's not fighting Khabib. | ||
| Tony's a tough fight. | ||
| It's a horrible fight for him. | ||
| They're going to do a Russia card. | ||
| And when they do a Russia card, they want to do a Russia card with Conor. | ||
| Or with Habib, rather. | ||
| So when they do a Russia card with Habib, it's most likely going to be for a title. | ||
| I would imagine. | ||
| It's for a title. | ||
| It all depends if Conor accepts it. | ||
| Remember, Conor has all the power. | ||
| It might be Tony, and it might be for an interim. | ||
| And apparently they offered it to Tony, and Tony said that he wanted to make the same amount of money that Habib makes. | ||
| Which is perfectly fine. | ||
| Perfectly fine. | ||
| But, you know, they said, nope. | ||
| You got a contract, you got to honor your contract. | ||
| That's at least how it's been explained. | ||
| Yes, that's how it's being explained. | ||
| They go, well, you sign these contracts, you've got to honor the contract. | ||
| But that only works one way. | ||
| That only works for the UFC, because they don't honor all the contracts, do they? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| If it works for them. | ||
| They can cut them. | ||
| You have a six-fight contract, you've lost two, and it's born, you're cut. | ||
| It's in the contract that you can get cut. | ||
| If it wasn't in the contract, there's guys who have fought and they've fought out their entire contract. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| But I'm just saying, it's very one-sided. | ||
| Remember the early days? | ||
| Pedro Hizo had this giant contract because they thought that Pedro was going to be the heavyweight champ. | ||
| And so they were giving him undercard fights. | ||
| He was making a quarter of a million dollars. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's tricky, man, because I get the idea that they would want to protect Conor, you know, and really set up the big money fights, especially now, because he's the biggest guy. | ||
| But then you've got Conor, who's kind of fucking crazy. | ||
| And he's like, the way he was jawing down Tyron Woodley. | ||
| I don't think it's Conor doing it. | ||
| I think from a business standpoint, they're going, wow. | ||
| What's the biggest fight? | ||
| Let's say you have three fights left. | ||
| Who are the three biggest names we can fight to make this happen so you stay undefeated and make the most money? | ||
| He might not be undefeated. | ||
| I mean, he's definitely not undefeated now, right? | ||
| But the biggest thing is the Woodley fight because that's a 170 pound belt. | ||
| That's 170. That's a third belt, guys. | ||
| That's a fight. | ||
| If you didn't see it, shame on you. | ||
| Shame on you motherfuckers if you didn't see it. | ||
| Number two, listen. | ||
| I'm not saying that Khabib is going to beat Conor, especially after I see him take the punch from Michael Conor. | ||
| I'm not saying he's John Conor. | ||
| Michael Johnson. | ||
| But the fight is Khabib. | ||
| And then the next fight has to be Ferguson if he beats him. | ||
| That's the way it is where I come from. | ||
| But Ferguson and Khabib can't wait. | ||
| Ferguson needs a fight in the next four or five months. | ||
| Khabib needs a fight in the next fucking two, three months. | ||
| Khabib said he'll fight in Brooklyn. | ||
| And Tony Ferguson will fight in Brooklyn. | ||
| That's a month from now. | ||
| When you interviewed him, and he put the hat on your fucking head, he said he'll fight in Brooklyn. | ||
| He put the hat on my head every time I've been in Brooklyn. | ||
| I know, it's great. | ||
| I fucking love it. | ||
| And you don't say dick to him. | ||
| No, he looks at me. | ||
| He looks at me, he shows me the hat, and I give him the nod. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, I'll put that on. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I like that hat. | ||
| Now, Eddie, me as a fan, the number one fight I want to see is Tony vs. | ||
| Khabib. | ||
| That's the fight. | ||
| There's not a better matchup that can be made in the UFC. I don't know about that. | ||
| I like Tony vs. | ||
| Conor. | ||
| I even like Khabib vs. | ||
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Conor. | |
| I like Conor vs. | ||
| Woodley. | ||
| I like that fight, too. | ||
| That's the fight, guys. | ||
| That's the next money fight. | ||
| But he's going to eventually... | ||
| I don't think the UFC gives him enough power to do that. | ||
| They're not going to let him get that much control. | ||
| You just said Conor has all the power. | ||
| Yeah, he's got all the power. | ||
| Well, here's the thing about Woodley. | ||
| Woodley loses to Bisping. | ||
| If he loses this catchweight fight, he still keeps that 170 pound strap. | ||
| That's if that catchweight fight happens. | ||
| The UFC might be like, what? | ||
| No, you can't hold up two divisions. | ||
| It's Tyron against my boy, Conor McGregor. | ||
| I gotta go with Joey on this one. | ||
| He was going after Tyron. | ||
| They planted the seed right there. | ||
| He can't tie up two divisions. | ||
| I've been backstage at UFC's all the goddamn time. | ||
| That shit don't happen. | ||
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And they're going to push him away from the Russian and Ferguson for as long as they can. | |
| And then they'll do what they did. | ||
| We can't talk over each other. | ||
| No, they'll do the NASA thing. | ||
| When they go to interview him, they die in car accidents and shit. | ||
| But that's the fight, guys. | ||
| That's the fight right there that everybody wants to see. | ||
| Right off the bat. | ||
| I'd love to see Conor and Khabib. | ||
| I'd love to see Ferguson and Khabib. | ||
| But they're not going to do that right off the bat. | ||
| They're going to hope that they fall off a cliff or a plane goes down. | ||
| Let's give them the money for it, which is 170. Can he get the third belt? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| If he does lose, if he goes up to 10 and beats Tyron, nothing happens. | ||
| Nothing happens. | ||
| It's risk-free. | ||
| It's risk-free! | ||
| Same thing with that first Nate Diaz fight. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Remember who runs this show? | ||
| What do you do with Tony and Khabib? | ||
| They go to Bellator. | ||
| They're going to get pissed off. | ||
| They're going to say, fuck you, UFC. We can't take this no more because you're hiding this kid from us. | ||
| Here's another thing. | ||
| At Bellator, there's still one guy left that I don't know where his contract's at, but Michael Chandler is a motherfucker. | ||
| He is a motherfucker. | ||
| Remember, he beat Eddie Alvarez, who's the champ at 155. And did you see what he did to that pitbull guy and starched him with one punch? | ||
| Starched him. | ||
| Dude, Michael Chandler is legit as fuck. | ||
| How many fights does he have left, though? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| He was just at the UFC the other day. | ||
| That's why I'm saying it. | ||
| He was in the front row. | ||
| I was talking to him. | ||
| I didn't talk to him about the fight. | ||
| Yeah, he's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| I'll tell you another guy, Lance Palmer from Team Alpha Man, who's World Series of whatever. | ||
| He has one fight left, and after that he's going straight to the UFC. Good luck beating that motherfucker. | ||
| What weight is he? | ||
| 45. Can wrestle his paws off. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of talent coming up, man. | ||
| A lot of talent coming up. | ||
| Then you have some guys going to Bellator like that. | ||
| Lorenz Larkin, who's a monster. | ||
| Is he going to go to Bellator? | ||
| They're talking to him. | ||
| He's a free agent. | ||
| I hope he stays in the UFC. I really do. | ||
| Is Bellator paying pretty good? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They have to. | ||
| They have to. | ||
| It's the only way people are going to get over there. | ||
| Roy McDonald, Lorenz Larkin. | ||
| I don't know if Lorenz is on there yet, but Lorenz, the way he put away Neil Magny, I was like, don't Go anywhere, man. | ||
| Stick around. | ||
| Lorenz beat Robbie Lawler. | ||
| Lorenz is legit as fuck. | ||
| He's a nightmare. | ||
| He's a dangerous striker. | ||
| He's one of the best strikers in that 170-pound division and fought a good chunk of his career at 185. 170, he's a big fella. | ||
| And he's got ridiculous kicks. | ||
| He throws that goddamn oblique kick to the body better than anybody I've ever seen. | ||
| Pull up the fight, Lorenz Larkin versus Neil Magny. | ||
| Neil Magny, who is a tough fucking dude, didn't even have a chance in that fight. | ||
| He got starch. | ||
| He beat Johnny Hendricks. | ||
| The judges helped, but he beat Johnny Hendricks. | ||
| I had Neil winning 1-3. | ||
| I think he could have been conceivably won because of having him in that triangle in the third, but the first round was so loose. | ||
| It just didn't look dangerous to me. | ||
| That was like a legit loose triangle. | ||
| But he still did more than Johnny. | ||
| I disagree with that. | ||
| I'm also biased as fuck. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| I have to look at it again, but I saw some space. | ||
| I saw some space, and I think the arm was tucked in enough where I don't think Johnny was in real trouble, but he was definitely stuck. | ||
| Think about those judges, though. | ||
| They don't know shit. | ||
| They don't know shit. | ||
| So they see him in danger, they're giving him around. | ||
| He was definitely in some serious motherfucking danger. | ||
| Anytime you're caught with one arm in, one arm out, and the shit is singed, you're in trouble. | ||
| It's almost like his legs are so long that he gives you a little extra space. | ||
| Because his legs are so long. | ||
| No, the problem was... | ||
| The problem was he started throwing elbows, and when that does, his head's right there. | ||
| It pushes him out. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| So the more you hit him... | ||
| So it's like you gotta land a couple elbows and then grab the wrists and pull them back in. | ||
| You gotta constantly pull them back in, throw a couple... | ||
| Because they're like this and... | ||
| When you're throwing elbows, you're pushing them out of your shit. | ||
| Remember when Anderson stopped Travis Luter? | ||
| That's how he got him. | ||
| Sure, didn't Travis Luter miss weight? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Could there have been a more frustrating weight cut? | ||
| He didn't just miss weight, dude. | ||
| He was the closest I've ever seen where it looked like the guy was dead. | ||
| Watch this fight. | ||
| Here's Lorenz. | ||
| Lorenz is a slick striker, but watch this oblique kick to the body. | ||
| A lot of guys are throwing this to the leg, but Lorenz throws it to the body, and he switches stances a lot, but the way he lands it, he launches you through the air with it. | ||
| So he hits him with that low kick, low kick on the bottom of the calf, like real low. | ||
| Is it going to happen right now? | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| I mean, this is just the fight itself. | ||
| But the way he throws it is really unusual, man, because he'll be like, from here, like right there. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See that? | ||
| Is that the one? | ||
| Yeah, that's exactly it. | ||
| That was a rear push kick. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| It's an oblique kick. | ||
| That's not Verdun vs Edmund kick. | ||
| See that? | ||
| This is what it's like. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| It's like this. | ||
| He's doing this. | ||
| Watch it again. | ||
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Do it again? | |
| Watch it again. | ||
| Back it up again. | ||
| Slow motion? | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Just watch it. | ||
| Just watch it. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| I know what the kick is. | ||
| Watch how he does it. | ||
| Watch where his heel is. | ||
| His toes are pointing. | ||
| See? | ||
| His toes are kind of pointing outside. | ||
| That fucks Neil up, too. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| I'll show you on a bag. | ||
| It's a devastating check. | ||
| Did you hear Neil talk about that fight? | ||
| He goes, I literally just overlooked the guy. | ||
| He doesn't get a lot of hype, but he definitely should. | ||
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What? | |
| You overlooked him? | ||
| Yeah, he goes, I don't know. | ||
| He doesn't get a lot of hype. | ||
| He thought it was going to be an easier fight than it was. | ||
| Well, he just got off a beat in Hector Lombard. | ||
| He might have been feeling his oats. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But Larkin is a totally different animal. | ||
| He's one of the most... | ||
| Oh my god, he's tough. | ||
| One of the most technical and capable guys in the division when it comes to striking. | ||
| His jiu-jitsu is good, too. | ||
| See it again? | ||
| Watch it again. | ||
| His wrestling is ridiculous, too. | ||
| See, his foot is not... | ||
| He's hitting with the heel. | ||
| Like this? | ||
| It's like this. | ||
| This is what he's doing. | ||
| See how he does that there? | ||
| Dude, come on, son. | ||
| Who kicks like that? | ||
| Back that up again. | ||
| Look at the extension he gets. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Watch how he throws this kick. | ||
| This is a beautiful kick, man. | ||
| Sets it up with that and then steps in. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Spartan style, son. | ||
| Dude, it's a weird kick because a lot of guys don't do it the way he does it. | ||
| He's stomping. | ||
| And Jon does it all the time. | ||
| Yep, but Jon does it to the legs. | ||
| Yeah, Jon doesn't do it as powerful. | ||
| And Holly did it a lot to Rhonda. | ||
| Holly did it to Rhonda. | ||
| He stomped him but turning his heel in instead of out, right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's like you step forward and you do this. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it's got a lot of power. | ||
| All the Jackson boys do it. | ||
| Next time you're in front of a bat, I'll show you. | ||
| A new kick is born in the UFC. It's not a new... | ||
| He didn't invent it, but I'm just saying it. | ||
| Winkle John, they've been doing it forever, Jackson boys. | ||
| People have been doing it forever, but they've been doing it to the leg. | ||
| Not to this degree, though. | ||
| He fucking Sparta kicks his ass. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Lorenz is on another level. | ||
| He just is. | ||
| And the only loss that he has inside the octagon at 170 is against Tumanoff, and that was a super close fight. | ||
| So he's not the only guy that ever throw it exactly like that? | ||
| Well, he's one of the only guys I've ever seen throw it to the body. | ||
| And knock someone down. | ||
| And the way he throws it to the body is just massive power. | ||
| And speed. | ||
| The way he chambers his legs and then gets that kick to launch in a straight line. | ||
| Nobody practices that, right? | ||
| Guys are doing it now, I guarantee you. | ||
| Especially with his success. | ||
| Copycat league. | ||
| You have to see it a thousand times before people make it part of their daily routine. | ||
| But he's fucking up that lower leg, too. | ||
| There's so many strikes you gotta work on. | ||
| But again, Lorenz flies under the radar. | ||
| He wants more publicity. | ||
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Look at that. | |
| He did it again. | ||
| He does it from here to the body, which is so crazy. | ||
| He's nasty. | ||
| Can you imagine him versus Roy McDonald in Bellator? | ||
| I could. | ||
| Oh, nice. | ||
| But I can imagine him fighting for the title against Woodley, too. | ||
| I want to see him at 170 in the UFC. I'm selfish. | ||
| What's his record of the last three fights? | ||
| Only lost to Tumanoff, and it was a razor close decision. | ||
| Was that recent? | ||
| That was like two or three fights ago, and he's won all the other ones. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| So he's on a win streak. | ||
| Yeah, but this is the big win, because Magny's a top contender, and he beat the fuck out of Magny. | ||
| I mean, Magny was never in this fight. | ||
| This fight was like, he worked him, man. | ||
| Yeah, Magny's really only been outclassed in this Larkin fight, and then he got outclassed when he fought Damian Maia. | ||
| Larkin throws a lot of weird shit too, man. | ||
| He'll throw like wheel kicks to the thigh. | ||
| Dude, he came into rain and everyone was like, we don't know what the fuck to do. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Me and Pat couldn't get him down. | ||
| His takedown offense was ridiculous. | ||
| His striking was unconventional. | ||
| He was a nightmare. | ||
| Yeah, he's got, I think, a kung fu background. | ||
| I think that's where he started his career. | ||
| But you see like that low leg kick, man? | ||
| He attacks like below the knee. | ||
| Look at him just eating Neil. | ||
| The problem is you could go to Bellator and you could chew away years of your career and no one will know who you are. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Look at Diego Lima. | ||
| Who? | ||
| Or Douglas Lima. | ||
| I know, I'm just kidding. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Lima's a world-class fighter. | ||
| Well, look at Michael Chandler. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Michael Chandler, I mean, he's better than Eddie Alvarez. | ||
| Beat Eddie Alvarez. | ||
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| But Eddie beat him, too. | ||
| Yeah, but still, I mean, you talk about a guy of that caliber. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He walks down the street, goes into 7-Eleven, people are like, what are you, CrossFit? | ||
| They don't know who he is. | ||
| Yeah, what happened to him, bro? | ||
| Where if he was in the UFC... Everyone knows who he is. | ||
| Yeah, no, you're right. | ||
| It's not there yet. | ||
| I wish it was. | ||
| They can get there, though. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| They don't have pay-per-view. | ||
| They don't have those... | ||
| Why do you need pay-per-view? | ||
| They're on Spike TV. It's not the same. | ||
| Viacom? | ||
| I agree, but they've tried one pay-per-view. | ||
| It was a terrible disaster. | ||
| What was the pay-per-view they tried? | ||
| Rampage. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| I do remember. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it didn't work. | ||
| Nobody bought it. | ||
| It's just, there's a difference. | ||
| But their ratings on regular cable are good. | ||
| Just as good as the UFC. What's weird is their ratings on regular cable still don't translate into stardom. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Well, it's because I think what they've been doing is they've been giving the older guys from the UFC where people are like, oh, yeah, he's kind of over the hill. | ||
| Where now they have a guy like Rory McDonald. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Who's young and he can be that kind of world-class athlete. | ||
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| But the UFC shows a replay of Wonderboy fucking up Rory. | ||
| That's what they show over and over and over again. | ||
| And then they show Robbie Lawler knocking out Rory. | ||
| And they'll just show it over and over again in their highlights. | ||
| True. | ||
| Until everybody knows Rory left and went over there. | ||
| Look, I wish Rory nothing but the best. | ||
| Until Bellator gets a Michael Venom Page. | ||
| If they get one superstar like a Jon Jones who starred with them, then you're going to start seeing some changes. | ||
| But Page got kind of exposed in his last fight. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Went to distance. | ||
| Didn't knock the guy out. | ||
| Didn't really look that good. | ||
| I'm not saying he's the answer. | ||
| I'm saying they need a type of guy. | ||
| I forget who he fought. | ||
| Because the Chael Sonnen versus Tito Ortiz, it'll do record-breaking. | ||
| It's going to kill number-wise because we know who those guys are. | ||
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You think so? | |
| But they're both older. | ||
| Oh, it's going to sell for sure. | ||
| Well, it's not selling. | ||
| It's going to be on regular TV, right? | ||
| It's not pay-per-view. | ||
| No, I'm going to say it's going to sell ticket-wise at the form. | ||
| Because remember, that Brooklyn card was supposed to be at the same time. | ||
| As that Bellator card. | ||
| UFC left. | ||
| Because they didn't have a headliner for that, so they left Anaheim. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Same night? | ||
| Is that where it was? | ||
| Oh, well, that's the Brooklyn card? | ||
| They moved that card to Brooklyn? | ||
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| That's what happened? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, that's interesting. | ||
| The Brooklyn card does look like they're still working on it, though. | ||
| I'm hoping they could pull that together. | ||
| It's a smart move, because Tito, Chael, and we got fucking Hawley this. | ||
| So that's the same weekend? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Tito fights the same weekend as Jermaine Durandame? | ||
| No, I think they switched it, but it was the same as Bellator. | ||
| Bellator is January 21st on Spike. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So February... | ||
| Yeah, they switched it to that February then. | ||
| Now, when is Verdum Dos Santos? | ||
| Did we schedule that? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, Verdum was supposed to fight Kane, but Kane got pulled off the card because he fucked up, man. | ||
| He did an interview and said that he needed surgery after the fight. | ||
| And they're like, what? | ||
| So, you know, Bob Baker from the Nevada State Athletic Commission, who does a fucking awesome job, he is not going to let you fight if you go around telling people you need surgery. | ||
| Too much of a liability. | ||
| Yeah, it's a liability. | ||
| It's just business 101, Kane. | ||
| And you just can't do it. | ||
| He fucked up. | ||
| He probably didn't think about it. | ||
| He just thought, look, I'm just going to show everybody how tough I am and go through it anyway, which you can do. | ||
| See, the thing is, his back is structurally sound. | ||
| The doctors cleared him. | ||
| So if he did, like he thought in his mind, even though he does need to get the pathways cleared out, he's got some sort of stenosis where the pathways, the nerves, it's irritating his nerves, but he can get a cortisone shot. | ||
| Now, if he gets a cortisone shot, then he won't feel it. | ||
| He can go through the fight. | ||
| Structurally, he's fine. | ||
| It's not like he's compromised. | ||
| He's got a weak joint. | ||
| So it's just a little bit of pain. | ||
| He goes through it. | ||
| Then after the fight, he can get the surgery. | ||
| That's what his doctor said, so that's what he was saying. | ||
| He just didn't take into consideration that whenever you say... | ||
| Two things happen. | ||
| First of all, the betting line changes. | ||
| You go and tell everybody he needs surgery after the fight. | ||
| Everybody's like... | ||
| So that gets squirrely, especially with Nevada. | ||
| They have to figure out how do they put this line up. | ||
| And second of all, there's that liability thing. | ||
| Huge liability. | ||
| And then did you see they did offer the fight of Junior Dos Santos. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then Verdum came out and started calling Junior Dos Santos gay. | ||
| Yeah, what's that about? | ||
| He was like, just come out of the closet. | ||
| He said, nothing that's homosexuals, but everyone knows you're gay. | ||
| Damn, son! | ||
| Did he say that? | ||
| Yeah, I went hard in the pain at JDS. Wow, that's rough. | ||
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That's super rough. | |
| And D.C. Johnson, that's not on the horizon anytime soon? | ||
| D.C.'s just getting back to training on Monday. | ||
| D.C. had a torn muscle and he decided to opt for surgery, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right next to that. | ||
| So he went for surgery on that, right? | ||
| He had surgery. | ||
| He's just getting back to training, but who knows how long he's out. | ||
| Then you got Jon Jones. | ||
| His suspension's up in July. | ||
| And then Rumble said, the only thing I'm doing is fighting for a title. | ||
| I'll wait a year if I have to. | ||
| But the UFC's like, nah, son, you're going to fight Jon Jones for an interim title. | ||
| That's what I think is going to happen if DC's not ready. | ||
| So Jon Jones comes back in July. | ||
| I think his suspension is up right when that July 4th weekend card comes up. | ||
| Boom, boom, boom. | ||
| So he'll be probably the headliner for that. | ||
| That's a tough go, because he had some ring rust when he fought OSP. Let's not get it twisted. | ||
| Anthony Rumble Johnson, you don't get any mistakes with that gentleman. | ||
| And also, he had ring rust before the OSP fight, and now it's another year off. | ||
| That's a long time off. | ||
| To your point, Ronda had 411 days off. | ||
| Ring rust is real, man. | ||
| I don't give a fuck what people say. | ||
| And not only is it real, but you're not getting warm-up fights. | ||
| She's not fighting Liz Karmouche. | ||
| You're fighting fucking this killer who just fought at UFC 200. Yep. | ||
| Who's ready to go. | ||
| No warm-ups. | ||
| What do you think about B.J. Yair? | ||
| That's going to be crazy. | ||
| Yair's the future. | ||
| Scary. | ||
| Yair Rodriguez, he's so dynamic, man. | ||
| It's fun to watch. | ||
| B.J.'s at Jackson's, right? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Man. | ||
| That's what everyone was saying. | ||
| Like, oh, BJ needs a real camp. | ||
| If BJ went to Jackson's or if BJ went here, AKA or whatever, and he actually listened and he did it. | ||
| A little too late, but yeah. | ||
| It's weird that it's never too late. | ||
| If he's in the right camp and that's BJ Penn, it's never too late. | ||
| How did he lose all that weight? | ||
| Yair's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| But BJ, you know, with the right camp, just like everybody said, if he had the right camp, he's got the right camp now. | ||
| Yeah, but what happened to his body where he's going to 45? | ||
| Why is he going to 45? | ||
| Especially as you get older. | ||
| That's his real weight. | ||
| That was always his real weight. | ||
| He was doing jiu-jitsu at 147. That was always his weight. | ||
| Right, but wasn't he like 12? | ||
| Yeah, he was young as fuck. | ||
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He won the Black Belt Worlds at 147. He fought Machida, for God's sakes. | |
| He's a legend. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| I never root against BJ. It's just goddamn... | ||
| Unfortunately, Yair is fucked. | ||
| That's a nightmare opponent for BJ. Yair's the future, man. | ||
| But this is the best BJ we're going to see. | ||
| This is the best one. | ||
| That's a strong statement at his age, sir. | ||
| No, no, what I meant, the best possible we can see. | ||
| For today. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what you're saying. | ||
| He has a great camp. | ||
| He's probably in shape. | ||
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He's sticking to everything. | |
| Jackson's not fucking around with BJ. Are you kidding? | ||
| You can't. | ||
| You get ate up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's 38 years old, though. | ||
| And that's 38 MMA years. | ||
| And 38 years old after a war. | ||
| How good is Yair's jiu-jitsu? | ||
| It's pretty goddamn good. | ||
| It's dynamic and it's different. | ||
| He's a mad scrambler. | ||
| He'll fly to knee bars. | ||
| Is he black belt level? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think he's black belt. | ||
| Is he brown belt level? | ||
| Yair Rodriguez BJJ rank. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, find it, Jamie. | ||
| But here's the thing about Yair, the distance. | ||
| He keeps that kicking distance. | ||
| He's fucking so lethal. | ||
| He's quick. | ||
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That's going to be the problem for BJ is the quickness and the youthfulness. | |
| If BJ stands with him, yeah, the odds are not in his favor. | ||
| But if BJ just decides to get in that clinch and take him down... | ||
| Squeeze him out. | ||
| ...and jump on his neck, I think that's the best route. | ||
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100%. | |
| Vintage BJ, for sure. | ||
| He's got to take... | ||
| Rodriguez. | ||
| I didn't like BJ versus Lamas. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| It's a legend, man. | ||
| Don't give him Ricardo Lamas. | ||
| Ricardo Lamas is a bad motherfucker. | ||
| I know. | ||
| So is Yair, but Ricardo Lamas is going to hurt you. | ||
| I didn't like that. | ||
| You don't think Yair is going to hurt you? | ||
| Not the same way Ricardo is. | ||
| Jesus, dude. | ||
| Did you see the touchy-feely fight when he launched that fucking flying roundhouse kick to his jaw and flattened him? | ||
| Those are good points. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I didn't like the Lamas fight for him. | ||
| I think they're both equally scary. | ||
| The thing about Lamas is Lamas has more experience against world-class competition. | ||
| Went five rounds with Aldo and was beating Aldo in the fifth round. | ||
| He's on top of him, ground and pounding him. | ||
| He's got a nasty guillotine, too, where he guillotined Bermudez, cracked him with a punch, and then snuck in that tight arm-in guillotine. | ||
| He's very good. | ||
| Lamas is one of the best guys, but he's also, you know, 34, 35. It doesn't do anything for BJ in that fight. | ||
| And Lamas is such a badass and he's so skilled. | ||
| That doesn't do much for BJ. At least Yair, if he wins, he's young, that's a huge feather in his cap. | ||
| That makes more sense. | ||
| I guess, but if BJ beat... | ||
| I think if BJ beat Lamas, it was a big feather in his cap. | ||
| It's like, Jesus, he beat a top 10 contender. | ||
| He's back. | ||
| He hasn't fought forever. | ||
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To us. | |
| To us. | ||
| Well, what do you mean to anybody else? | ||
| Like, well, the only thing about Yair is that Yair won the Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| He won the Latin America Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| True. | ||
| Yair's a motherfucker, dude. | ||
| He's a motherfucker. | ||
| He really is. | ||
| People hate when we say that, by the way. | ||
| Stop calling people motherfuckers. | ||
| That's what you guys say. | ||
| That's our lingo for God's sake. | ||
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He's a beast. | |
| He's a motherfucker. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| Bad motherfucker. | ||
| You guys need more adjectives. | ||
| You need more adverbs, too. | ||
| Talk like me and my friends. | ||
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Sure. | |
| There's a lot of goddamn good fights on the horizon. | ||
| There's a lot of potential fights. | ||
| If you're Wonderboy, wouldn't you be pissed at all this Woodley talk about Woodley fighting anybody else other than Wonderboy? | ||
| No one's even talking about Wonderboy. | ||
| Wonderboy needs to start talking shit to Connor. | ||
| I'll tell you what, I'd watch Wonderboy vs. | ||
| your boy Tony Ferguson. | ||
| Yeah, but they're different weight classes. | ||
| Well, I'm on Joey Diaz's train now. | ||
| Fuck weight classes. | ||
| Listen, Cowboy has fought at 155 and at 170. The fight between him and Tony Henderson, you guys were talking before, I was seeing it. | ||
| Explosions are going off in my head. | ||
| Tony Henderson or Ben Henderson? | ||
| Well, your guy. | ||
| Tony Henderson. | ||
| I always get confused. | ||
| I did about 19 sprays. | ||
| Did you do? | ||
| Did you really? | ||
| He's been taking them nonstop. | ||
| How many sprays did you take? | ||
| You know me, dog. | ||
| Probably 12? | ||
| It's the Lord's Day. | ||
| We got nowhere to be and nothing to do. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Wow, that spray scares me. | ||
| Oh, it's tremendous. | ||
| I wrote them an email. | ||
| They wrote me back. | ||
| They're nice people. | ||
| I got to go up to the stop and get some more from them. | ||
| Some strong shit, huh? | ||
| Listen, man, you guys are talking about we need $4 billion, we need fights. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| These are all the fights you're going to have to do now. | ||
| So you think they say fuck weight class and just make it the biggest fights? | ||
| Not fuck weight classes. | ||
| Everybody has to respect the weight classes, but go up if you want to go up. | ||
| If you think you can run with it, run with it. | ||
| You've got to convince Dana. | ||
| The same way Kana convinced Dan. | ||
| Have some of them jambos. | ||
| Have some of those if you're brave. | ||
| What are these? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I can't see without my glasses. | ||
| Read them to me. | ||
| Jambos. | ||
| That's a fucking super powerful edible. | ||
| It's a two cookie dough truffles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, gluten-free, Joey. | ||
| It's gluten-free. | ||
| Get in there. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| Take care. | ||
| I could go hang out with my faggy friends. | ||
| Hey, easy. | ||
| And hang out. | ||
| Go find that guy who's gonna suck your dick, don't you? | ||
| Take a smile on that. | ||
| Organic. | ||
| He makes them with honey. | ||
| They're so good. | ||
| It tastes good. | ||
| What's the strength? | ||
| Death. | ||
| All of the above. | ||
| Read the strength of me, Bob. | ||
| Straight to the end of the earth. | ||
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Pretty sure it doesn't stay on there. | |
| It tastes like dick. | ||
| Tastes like dick? | ||
| Why does it taste like dick? | ||
| Too organic for you? | ||
| Joey's used to that processed sugar. | ||
| It doesn't say how much is in here. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He meant it as a compliment. | ||
| They don't even want you to know. | ||
| It says eat a truffle when you need a boost of energy. | ||
| What kind of energy you got? | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| What does it say about milligrams of THC? It doesn't say it. | ||
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Interesting. | |
| I feel like that's something you need to know. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I feel like that's important on here. | ||
| This one says 25 milligrams. | ||
| Maybe I gave you the wrong one. | ||
| This is pretty light. | ||
| 25 is not that bad for a guy like you. | ||
| That's nothing. | ||
| 25 milligrams? | ||
| That's a waste of your time. | ||
| I ate 1,200 last week. | ||
| God damn! | ||
| This one's 100, but I think there's two of them in there. | ||
| There's this new edible called Moon. | ||
| So this is 200 if you eat the two of them. | ||
| Listen, there's a thing called Moon. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| It's a chocolate bar. | ||
| It's ten fucking dollars. | ||
| Ten dollars. | ||
| It's called Moon. | ||
| I've eaten them twice. | ||
| How long do you know me? | ||
| A long time. | ||
| Both times the next day I could not go to jujitsu. | ||
| I didn't do much. | ||
| I didn't do much the next day. | ||
| They're that strong? | ||
| What'd you do? | ||
| I ate the whole bar. | ||
| And then what happened? | ||
| Dog, you gotta see pictures of me. | ||
| How many milligrams is it? | ||
| 250, but they're lying to you. | ||
| They're definitely lying to me, which I like. | ||
| I like being lied to you. | ||
| I don't want to know what I'm eating. | ||
| But I saw pictures of me, it's like I got hit by Nunez. | ||
| Both eyes were fucked up. | ||
| That pocket fudge, that rocket fudge, that shit will fucking kill you. | ||
| Here's the beauty, that you go into these places, and they have all these $40 edibles, and they have all these ten, you know, this is ten fucking dollars. | ||
| You eat a half of that thing, and you'll be drooling. | ||
| And I got a better one for you. | ||
| I don't want to drool. | ||
| Listen to me. | ||
| There's one called Cushy. | ||
| They have 50 milligram, 100, and then they have Knockout. | ||
| In the back, listen to me. | ||
| It says it will activate in 60 minutes, guaranteed. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Here's the thing about this. | ||
| Give it to Jamie. | ||
| Jamie, it comes in a... | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Pushy punch. | ||
| That's super potent. | ||
| The fucking... | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| Not the recovery one, but they've got one that is so fucking strong, and I call it transmission fluid. | ||
| Because when you open it up, it comes like, you know, you ever go eat breakfast, the butter packages? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have to rip them open and stick a knife in there. | ||
| Comes in one of those. | ||
| And they chop it in fours for you. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Me, I'm a Gavone, I ate the whole, but when you peel the top off, and you smell it, it's like you're walking into a transmission shop. | ||
| Like, that's exactly, where is it? | ||
| Not the hybrid, not the end. | ||
| That's all for pussies. | ||
| TKO. TKO, bitch! | ||
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That's all for pussies. | |
| Transmission fluid. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Super potent gummy formula. | ||
| Best for high-tolerance users. | ||
| That's high-tolerance users. | ||
| You will die. | ||
| Oh man, it's a weird time because it's all legal now. | ||
| Now that it's legal, you're gonna see what these dudes can do. | ||
| You know, because they're gonna have to be held back though, because I think there's regulations on the potency of edibles now. | ||
| Is there? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I think you just have to let people know what's in them. | ||
| I think it's 10. Ten. | ||
| Yeah, so each one will be ten. | ||
| Like in Denver, they were selling these containers of ten. | ||
| It was 100 milligrams, and there were these gumdrops, and each one of them was ten. | ||
| They're pretty consistent, but not totally consistent. | ||
| Like I ate one, I was like, yeah, that feels like ten, and then I ate another one that felt like 40 or 50. I was like, ooh, this one. | ||
| They don't have the real numbers. | ||
| I'll bring that cushy to you, and I'll make you eat the whole thing, and you'll go, Joey, that's not 200 milligrams. | ||
| They lie to us. | ||
| That's the case often, though. | ||
| I mean, like, it's hard to get real accurate testing. | ||
| And then also, like, who's doing the actual making and blending? | ||
| Yeah, we're making it and exact measurements. | ||
| Well, like, tomorrow I pick up my shipment of Anarchy Edibles. | ||
| Those are my home runs. | ||
| My shipment? | ||
| Oh, every Monday. | ||
| Like a fucking pallet? | ||
| Yeah, I meet him every Monday before jujitsu, about 1045. He gives me 100, 200 milligrams, 100 red ones, and a couple brownies. | ||
| I give the brownies away to my friends. | ||
| And I keep those for the podcast and when I fly and shit like that. | ||
| But then you get used to the same strain. | ||
| It's like marijuana. | ||
| If you smoke the same joint for three days, it's not going to get you as high as the first day because your tolerance builds to that strain. | ||
| So I mix and match, bitch. | ||
| And the only ones that are allowed in Uncle Joey's neighborhood are Cushy, the TKO, brilliant. | ||
| Fucking brilliant. | ||
| But that new rocket pocket, that rocket chocolate, that shit, dog, twice I've eaten them already. | ||
| And I'm telling you, the next day, I get up, I take the baby to school, I write a little bit, and by 10.30, there ain't nothing going on. | ||
| I gotta go right back to bed for four or five hours, dog. | ||
| Fucked up the next day. | ||
| There's gonna be a time in our lifetimes where they start passing medical psilocybin. | ||
| It's gonna happen. | ||
| And when they have medical psilocybin, eventually they're gonna go with recreational psilocybin. | ||
| And when they go with recreational psilocybin, we're gonna see a different world. | ||
| It's going to be a different fucking world. | ||
| But the same benefits that you're seeing with marijuana, the difference being that marijuana, at least when you're smoking it, it's easier to regulate. | ||
| The experience isn't so world-changing and dissolving. | ||
| But we're going to have freedom. | ||
| It's not here yet, but it's here now for pot in a way that's never been before. | ||
| Do you think once... | ||
| A big pharma goes 100% in on cannabis. | ||
| What kind of things do you think they'll do to squeeze out the small guys? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| They've already done it. | ||
| They tried to do it in Ohio. | ||
| They can make it... | ||
| Okay, now it's legal, but we're the only ones that can sell it. | ||
| Well, that's what they did, Jamie. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You can't sell it if you're on your own. | ||
| What was that deal in Ohio, Jamie? | ||
| That seems like what's going to happen eventually. | ||
| The big businesses get involved. | ||
| They're going to squeeze everybody out. | ||
| They're going to pass regulations. | ||
| Jamie? | ||
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Yeah, they were trying to like lock down. | |
| There's like, I think it was like four companies that would have been able to grow and no one else would be able to grow or sell. | ||
| I think it was in perpetuity, like forever. | ||
| It just seems like that's what we're going to deal with. | ||
| Cuts. | ||
| People like a regular person. | ||
| There's money involved. | ||
| Like regular people, can they make like, can they start their own cigarette companies? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Can they do that? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
| You can't get into the cigarette company. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think they... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know anything about it, but I don't hear about people making their own cigarettes. | ||
| You make your own wine, though. | ||
| You can make your own cigarettes if you buy your own tobacco and you can roll your own. | ||
| But as far as going into large-scale production, yeah, you're probably right. | ||
| The thing about the marijuana thing is you already know how easy it is to grow, you fucks. | ||
| The fact that they try to lock it down and make it so only a few companies can grow it, make it legal, but only a few people can profit off it. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And then they make it so goddamn cheap that growing it yourself and trying to sell it yourself just doesn't become an option anymore. | ||
| People just say, fuck it. | ||
| They're just going to get cheap-ass weed at the liquor store, at the gas station. | ||
| They're just... | ||
| After a generation or two, people forget it. | ||
| It'll be like a connoisseur thing. | ||
| You know that in the fucking 70s, 60 Minutes did a show one time, and they showed that already in the 70s, the cigarette companies already had farms set up. | ||
| They were already working on the packaging. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| In the 70s, they were already trying to legalize it, and the cigarette companies were already in on it. | ||
| Right now, we don't think all these fucking cigarette companies are setting up that Kentucky. | ||
| What is that weed from Kentucky that's really good? | ||
| Kentucky, they have a weed in Kentucky. | ||
| Like, Alaska has, like, Matt Neuther, Thunderfuck. | ||
| Kentucky has like that blue grass. | ||
| I went up there when somebody brought me that weed. | ||
| They're going to package all those. | ||
| The same way they package Acapulco Gold. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| You think there'll be a Marlboro cannabis cigarette? | ||
| Yeah, they're already getting involved. | ||
| I got a friend. | ||
| We have a mutual friend. | ||
| I won't say his name, but he's in the marijuana business. | ||
| Brian Callen? | ||
| No, I wish. | ||
| Be awesome. | ||
| But he was saying that's the issue is that those big cigarette companies are buying up so much shit they're making it hard for other people to get involved in. | ||
| Yeah, that's just the way it goes. | ||
| They already have their hands in it. | ||
| Anytime there's something that's selling, like hotcakes, eventually the small man gets cut out. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's the way it works. | ||
| Yeah, it happens a lot. | ||
| It certainly happens a lot. | ||
| Whenever there's regulations where they can profit and they can use their influence and fuck over people that also could profit. | ||
| The problem with pot is it's so goddamn easy to grow that if they don't do that, anybody could step in. | ||
| But what they were trying to do in Ohio, lock it down for perpetuity forever, that these one companies could be the only ones. | ||
| They're setting up monarchies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's scary. | ||
| That's coming, though. | ||
| We haven't heard the end of that shit. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's coming. | ||
| Well, it's going to be interesting when Trump's the president now. | ||
| See where they go with all this. | ||
| Because that Jeff Sessions guy that he's bringing in, that guy hates Biden. | ||
| They're not going to let these hippies make millions of dollars. | ||
| That's only going to last. | ||
| These are going to be considered the good old days. | ||
| They're going to wish it was never legal. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| We're going to find out. | ||
| It's going to be interesting. | ||
| Trump has said that he's going to leave it up to the states, but presidents always say shit that they don't do. | ||
| I mean, Obama was going to close down Guantanamo Bay. | ||
| That motherfucker's still open eight years later. | ||
| He never even made an attempt at it. | ||
| I think sometimes they say that stuff, they don't realize how much work goes into it, right? | ||
| Well, I think they say that, and then they get into office, and then they get handed some dossiers and some fucking briefings, and they understand, like, what... | ||
| People are like, this is why we haven't done this before. | ||
| Look, I know you were saying you're going to close down Guantanamo Bay because it helped your campaign, but we're going to get you in here and show you what the fuck... | ||
| I think all those guys, they didn't sit them down. | ||
| They knew that shit... | ||
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Maybe. | |
| Way before. | ||
| They knew what they were getting into. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| It's the only reason they were allowed to rise so high. | ||
| I think they say a bunch of shit to get into office. | ||
| They say whatever the fuck they have. | ||
| No, no, for sure. | ||
| They lie their ass off. | ||
| Everything that comes out of Hillary's mouth. | ||
| Do you watch House of Cards? | ||
| It's so clear. | ||
| It's like George W. Bush. | ||
| Everything that George W. Bush says when he talks. | ||
| God damn it, we got into conspiracies. | ||
| If your bullshit meter doesn't go off, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Bro, he didn't even get to the part, tell him about Edmund, the CIA. No, no, no, no. | ||
| Edmund is the CIA, dog. | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
| Maybe that's the key. | ||
| So, let's end it. | ||
| It's 8-10. | ||
| This is a good fucking podcast. | ||
| Love you, man. | ||
| Happy New Year, everybody. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Good to see you, man. | ||
| I've seen you in a while. | ||
| Love you, brother. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Good times, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We'll be back tomorrow with Hashtag WhoIsFatWeek. | ||
| Tom Segura and Burt Kreischer weigh in tomorrow at 11 a.m. | ||
| They've been losing... | ||
| Wait for months now. | ||
| And Tom is writing hashtag Bert is fat. | ||
| Bert is writing hashtag Tom is fat. | ||
| Tom and Bert both started out at about 267 in that range. | ||
| And now they're fucking light. | ||
| I can't wait to see. | ||
| Tom looks fantastic. | ||
| Tom's only been drinking water. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| He doesn't even drink soda. | ||
| Doesn't drink diet soda. | ||
| Doesn't drink coffee anymore. | ||
| He's just drinking water. | ||
| Two of my favorite people. | ||
| Super disciplined. | ||
| He looks fucking great. | ||
| Did you see the videos of his face? | ||
| Can we see that real quick before we go? | ||
| Go to Tom Segura's Instagram before we leave, because he's got a real funny video. | ||
| We'll leave it on this, and then we'll show one at Bert's to balance it out. | ||
| But Tom Segura's Instagram, there's a video of him talking to the cameras, because Bert put this video of he ran for five and a half hours and lost like 3,000 fucking calories, because Bert's a savage. | ||
| I mean, he's a psychopath. | ||
| Psycho. | ||
| He's not the disciplined guy that Tom is. | ||
| Tom's more slow and steady. | ||
| He wins the race. | ||
| And Bert is like, I will run till I die. | ||
| You know who he is right now? | ||
| I went to his house for Christmas. | ||
| See you on Christmas Day with the kids. | ||
| He's Bert Rudiger. | ||
| Remember when he was outside the sauna? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they were like, get in there. | ||
| And he's like, I can't. | ||
| Is that what he looks like now? | ||
| No, no, Tom. | ||
| Go to Tom Segura. | ||
| Bert Kreischer is going on like a fucking... | ||
| He's starving himself right now. | ||
| Goddamn, look at that. | ||
| Look how good Tom looks. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Play that. | ||
| Hey, what's up? | ||
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I saw old fat-ass Bert's Instagram and all you fucking suckers believing it. | |
| That's called playing catch-up. | ||
| Catch-up! | ||
| I've covered so many more miles than you. | ||
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I'm not losing this beautiful, perfect fucking beard. | |
| Loser has to shave the beard. | ||
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Keep running, man. | |
| You should run all night. | ||
| I don't want to see Tom on the beard. | ||
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Run tomorrow. | |
| Run every day. | ||
| I don't even have to fucking run anymore. | ||
| I already had your ass beat. | ||
| He looks great, man. | ||
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I'm lost already. | |
| I'm ahead in the game. | ||
| And I am watching a fucking bowl game. | ||
| Because I know I weigh less than you, you fat motherfucker. | ||
| Look how good he looks, man. | ||
| God, he looks great. | ||
| Let's go to Bird here. | ||
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I talked to Tom Skr the other day, and I told him I'm turning on the nitrous oxide to this weight loss challenge. | |
| You want to see what the nitrous oxide is? | ||
| 20... | ||
| God, done. | ||
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5 hours and 23 minutes. | |
| How many calories? | ||
| 3,266 at an average of 4.1? | ||
| This is that Mickey Mantle gene I always talk about. | ||
| That long strand DNA. That part of your brain that won't let you quit. | ||
| It forces you to go that extra 22 miles to make sure you don't lose your beard. | ||
| We'll be weighing in live on YouTube on Joe Rogan's podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, January 2nd and January 3rd. | ||
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Tune in to find out who loses their beard. | |
| I can tell you one thing. | ||
| It won't be the guy killing it. | ||
| It'll be the guy laying in bed watching a bowl game right now. | ||
| Oh, Big Tommy Buns. | ||
| I hope you got a sponsorship from Dollar Shave Club, because I'm coming, and I'm coming for your beard. | ||
| I love those guys! | ||
| It's hilarious, but honestly, it's going to be real interesting to see whether Bert's craziness can balance out Tom's discipline, because Tom's been disciplined for a long time, man. | ||
| I've been watching him. | ||
| He does an hour of fucking cardio every day. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| He's not taking any days off. | ||
| He's not drinking at all. | ||
| He's not cheating at all. | ||
| Burt's been drinking this whole time. | ||
| Burt's still drinking. | ||
| You don't think he drank last night? | ||
| It was New Year's Eve! | ||
| You know he, ah, a couple of cocktails! | ||
| A couple of vodka sodas! | ||
| And he just figures, I'll just find out what a vodka soda is, and I'll burn that off on the treadmill. | ||
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Yeah, look at that. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that supposed to be water? | ||
| Skinny bitch. | ||
| Yeah, that ain't water. | ||
| It's really interesting. | ||
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Is that what they call them? | |
| Vodka tonic? | ||
| Or vodka soda water? | ||
| They call it a skinny bitch? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Really interesting. | ||
| He always does his sets with his shirt off. | ||
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Yeah, right? | |
| He takes his shirt off seconds into being on stage. | ||
| But it's funny because he's skinny. | ||
| Or because he's fat. | ||
| If he gets skinny, he can't just take your shirt off and be jacked. | ||
| Yeah, because he's a big fella. | ||
| He put something. | ||
| He put a picture on there. | ||
| Some guy wrote a comment on that. | ||
| I remember you had a bit about that. | ||
| Don't hang that on the mic. | ||
| It makes noise. | ||
| Oh, I remember that. | ||
| You had a bit about that, these comments that people write. | ||
| Where the fuck do they get off? | ||
| There was just one on there that he's just making a statement. | ||
| The guy's like, you can't find a shirt that fits you. | ||
| Where the fuck do these people get off? | ||
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They're retarded. | |
| Don't they have a fucking life, these people? | ||
| They don't. | ||
| That's why they're on the internet. | ||
| What a sad, sad fucking world to live in. | ||
| I remember one day Duncan sent me a thing that he did with a Reddit shit and a bunch of people, and they were talking about fat comics that they shouldn't... | ||
| When have you ever seen a successful fat comic? | ||
| It's been a fucking shitload of them. | ||
| And I was reading this going, what planet are you fucking from? | ||
| They're just dark people. | ||
| How about Sam Kinison? | ||
| He's fat in his whole career. | ||
| John Candy. | ||
| Belushi. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Anyway, let's end this motherfucker. | ||
| Well, you know what, man? | ||
| Remember when you were 16 and you were mugging gay dudes? | ||
| If you had an Instagram account, you'd probably be talking shit to Tom Segura. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| Dude, I had a guy, and it's very rare I ever get back to him. | ||
| This guy said something just ruthless, and I was like, God damn it. | ||
| I clicked on his profile, and it's a picture of him holding his daughter. | ||
| So I said, dude, you got a fucking kid, man. | ||
| I get it, you might hate me. | ||
| Don't be that loser that comments on another man's fucking Instagram page. | ||
| You got a fucking kid, for God's sakes. | ||
| And now I got to block you for being a moron. | ||
| People can't help it. | ||
| Everybody likes to cum. | ||
| Even morons. | ||
| Morons like to cum and they can make a kid. | ||
| It's just a bummer. | ||
| That's the end, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Don't be a moron. | ||
| Don't be a moron. | ||
| But you know what, man? | ||
| This whole being a moron thing, even that, it's temporary. | ||
| That's life. | ||
| We're coming to a head. | ||
| It's not far away, folks. | ||
| There will be integration. | ||
| All of us will be connected in some strange hive mind. | ||
| And we're about five, maybe ten years away from it. | ||
| It won't be as simple as like... | ||
| Send a fucking tweet or anything. | ||
| It's going to go right to your brain and everyone's going to be aware that you did it and they're all going to be able to go back at you and we're going to share information in a way that's just as weird to us today as the internet was 30 years ago. | ||
| Nobody ever thought you'd have to deal with this shit. | ||
| Imagine back when Rick James was a fucking on top of the world. | ||
| Do you think you would have had a look at his Instagram page like, what the fuck are they saying to Rick James? | ||
| It's a weird time when everybody can just talk to you. | ||
| It's going to be more than that. | ||
| The next levels go right into your brain. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| I don't like it either, but it's happening. | ||
| Deal with it, bitch! | ||
| Deal with it! | ||
| Tomorrow, hashtag whoisfat starts at 11 a.m. | ||
| Pacific Time. | ||
| Eddie Bravo, Matt Flavor, Brendan Schaub. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Big Brown Breakdown tomorrow. | ||
| Big Brown Breakdown tomorrow, you fucks. |
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