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Yes! | |
Fight Companion 2016 returns, ladies and gentlemen, live from Salt Lake City. | ||
Yair Rodriguez versus Alex Caceres. | ||
A real slobber knocker. | ||
A slobber knocker. | ||
So with me here, if you've never heard the Fight Companion before, you're like, oh great, what's a Fight Companion? | ||
It's sort of a podcast. | ||
It is definitely a podcast. | ||
But we're sort of watching the fights and calling the fights, but probably most likely not that much. | ||
But it's fun. | ||
And the nonsense meter hits red hot. | ||
It gets as high as it ever gets. | ||
Uh-huh. | ||
Ever. | ||
Sometimes it breaks. | ||
In the history of us. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Edgy Brahe is here. | ||
Edgy Brahe. | ||
Eddie Bravo. | ||
Hello. | ||
Fresh out of recovery. | ||
His fucking back is beautiful. | ||
Really? | ||
Ladies and gentlemen, there's some fucking new technology going on. | ||
Eddie Bravo has his disc replaced. | ||
We're going to get to that. | ||
Brian Callen is here. | ||
Holla, Eddie! | ||
Clean shaven. | ||
Clean shaven. | ||
All pro-P shit out. | ||
Look at that hair. | ||
You look beautiful. | ||
Thanks, buddy. | ||
I appreciate that. | ||
Brandon motherfucking Schaub is in the building. | ||
The biggest, strongest guy in the room. | ||
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Holla. | |
And handsome and young and shit. | ||
He's like a gorilla. | ||
That's right. | ||
I gotta show you guys something because yesterday changed my fucking world. | ||
Okay. | ||
I did Duncan Trussell's... | ||
Duncan Trussell? | ||
I did Duncan Trussell's podcast and he introduced me to the world of virtual reality goggles. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
I'm gonna show you something. | ||
I'm gonna show you this game. | ||
This is a boxing game. | ||
Look up in the upper left hand corner. | ||
Alright. | ||
This is a boxing game, so I have these gloves on, and it's kind of wacky because the gloves aren't the way you punch. | ||
You're holding onto these handles, and I'm fighting this Russian boxing coach dude. | ||
Your punching looks good. | ||
It's okay, but here's what's goofy about it. | ||
In order for your fists to be level, like parallel with the ground, you have to hold them like this. | ||
Joystick, almost. | ||
Yeah, so you're looking at your... | ||
If you're holding your hands like this... | ||
Oh, I see. | ||
If you're holding your hands with the heel of your hand facing the ground... | ||
Like your ski pole. | ||
Right, like your skiing. | ||
If you're holding your hands like that, your punches are parallel with the floor. | ||
Okay. | ||
So it's twisted. | ||
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Okay. | |
Oh, that's weird. | ||
For sure fix that. | ||
Yeah. | ||
They should make it so that you could hold your hand like an actual punch. | ||
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Right. | |
So like, wherever your hands are, that's where your gloves are. | ||
So I'm holding it like this and I'm punching like this. | ||
It's real weird. | ||
Because you're not... | ||
It looks like really good exercise though, right? | ||
Oh, it's real good exercise. | ||
Is that a prototype? | ||
No, it's a new shit. | ||
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You can go out and buy that too? | |
Yes, you can buy that. | ||
There's a bunch of games for these things now, but here's my point. | ||
I was moving around this guy. | ||
He's throwing punches at me. | ||
I'm moving around. | ||
I kept hitting him in the back of the head. | ||
I would sneak around behind him and beat him in the back of the head and uppercut him. | ||
And I'm doing this, and I'm like, oh, my footwork's all awkward. | ||
I didn't know what I was doing. | ||
I felt weird, like I'm in this virtual world. | ||
But after I did it a few times, I started to get the feeling of it. | ||
I was like, this is an amazing shadowboxing program. | ||
That's pretty sick. | ||
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That's amazing. | |
I think you can do Muay Thai with it, too. | ||
I think you could have it so that you could throw kicks, because it was getting me, it was getting all my movement from these two cameras that Duncan has set up in the room. | ||
They're motion detectors. | ||
So the cameras, they scan you when you're standing there, and then they build a perimeter around you, and there's a blue line on the ground. | ||
You look down, and you're in this 3D world, but you see this blue line on the ground. | ||
You can't go past that blue line, because that's the amount of free space that you have in your area. | ||
Wow. | ||
So sick. | ||
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Dude! | |
Can you imagine if you could download the opponent you're going to fight and they can shadowbox against them? | ||
Exactly. | ||
That's exactly what Duncan was saying. | ||
What he was saying is if you could make a training simulation of a guy, you could fight him a hundred times before you ever actually fight him. | ||
You can get comfortable with seeing him in front of you. | ||
And I'm telling you, man, what I was looking at was kind of cartoonish, like this Russian boxing guy's kind of cartoonish. | ||
He's got a wife beater on and headgear and shit. | ||
It's kind of cartoonish. | ||
It doesn't have to be. | ||
It's only cartoonish now. | ||
You could get to a point within a few years where you're going to be boxing a guy that looks exactly like Joe Schilling. | ||
And has his tendencies. | ||
You know how big of a deal that would be? | ||
You can do that. | ||
That can be done. | ||
How big of an advantage that would be? | ||
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That's insane. | |
Well, it would certainly be a great training tool. | ||
Well, this looks like Wolfenstein, but we've got a ways to go. | ||
But look at this. | ||
This is what it looks like. | ||
See, so your gloves, it's weird. | ||
You have to kind of turn your gloves off. | ||
Funky. | ||
So that they look normal on the screen. | ||
Right. | ||
But other than that, it's kind of dope. | ||
It's fun to do. | ||
And I'll tell you what, this isn't nearly as fun as the archery program. | ||
There was an archery one when you're in a castle, and you're on a roof, and you hear... | ||
And these fucking warriors come storming at you, and they have helmets on, and they have shields, and you're shooting arrows at them. | ||
Sounds so sick. | ||
It's the same handles, though, right? | ||
The same goofy handles, but there's haptic feedback, so this is the archery one that I was playing. | ||
Those graphics are fucking tough, though, Joe. | ||
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It's like Nintendo 64. They're a little tough. | |
It's because you're dealing with massive amounts of rendering in real time. | ||
Right. | ||
360 degrees, up and down. | ||
And these are all new things. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Like, you get to use them. | ||
But I was jacking these motherfuckers up. | ||
Ooh, headshot, son. | ||
What are you, a Mongol on horseback? | ||
I am, I am. | ||
So it's weird. | ||
So when you pull the bow back, there's no resistance, but there's this vibration. | ||
It's like shaking as you pull it back. | ||
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Damn. | |
So it really feels like you're pulling it back. | ||
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Yeah. | |
And then it gets to the point where it's locked out, you feel it, like, click. | ||
That's pretty fucking cool. | ||
Dude, it's dope! | ||
I shot this stupid fucking game until my arms were so sore they were shaking. | ||
I was going to say, now gamers are probably going to look like MMA fighters. | ||
Or at least runners. | ||
They're going to be in shape. | ||
But I think, man, if you remember those Dance Dance Revolution kids that were losing like 30 pounds playing Dance Dance... | ||
Okay, first fight is on. | ||
It's between two ladies. | ||
We do not have their names yet. | ||
Jamie, can you pull up the card so we'll let people know? | ||
So I've seen this tall woman fight in, I think, Tough. | ||
Round one of three. | ||
It's at 443-210. | ||
Powerful rash guard. | ||
Yeah, you know, they've just passed new rules today. | ||
They're going to make women wear tight-fitting clothing. | ||
They're not going to allow loose-fitting clothing. | ||
Who's ever worn loose? | ||
This girl's got shorts. | ||
I mean, how tight are those? | ||
I think they should all wear spandex. | ||
I think men should, too. | ||
I've seen guys grab shorts. | ||
You have, too. | ||
If you go back to the Chael Sonnen-Anderson Silva fight, there's a famous picture of Anderson Silva pulling Chael Sonnen shorts down. | ||
I feel like in the last year alone, I feel like women have gotten exponentially better. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Is that true? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
Well, there's some fucking beasts. | ||
Damn, she's jacked in that picture. | ||
Okay, so we got Marina Moroz. | ||
Is it Marina, you think? | ||
Marina Moroz. | ||
And Danielle Taylor. | ||
From Ukraine. | ||
Iron Lady. | ||
There's a lot of women from the Ukraine, man. | ||
A lot of those hard-ass Soviet bloc women. | ||
Come from those boxing programs. | ||
Dude, Valentina Shevchenko, the woman who just beat Holly Holm, she's so solid, man. | ||
She's so solid. | ||
She's gonna be trouble. | ||
Her counter, she's got it in her DNA where she's throwing them spinning back fist counters. | ||
She's got that down better than anybody I've seen, right? | ||
Yeah, she does everything, man. | ||
She does that real good. | ||
She's got that sweet counter right hook. | ||
Poor Holly, man. | ||
That girl's a multiple-time Muay Thai champion. | ||
So, like, the girls who are going to give her problems are not the girls like Holly. | ||
Girls like Holly, like, Holly's going to, like, stand there and strike with her, and Valentina has so much fucking striking experience. | ||
The girls who are going to give Shevchenko problems are the girls who are going to be looking to take her down. | ||
A girl is not going to just stand in front of her. | ||
A girl is going to present a bunch of options. | ||
Misha Tate, the striking would be an issue. | ||
She can grapple her ass off though. | ||
She can scramble her ass off. | ||
So can Shevchenko. | ||
Shevchenko can wrestle really well. | ||
She's strong. | ||
She's not like Misha's love as far as grappling goes. | ||
But when she fought Sarah Kaufman in her first fight, she out-grappled her. | ||
She kind of did. | ||
Surprised her with the takedowns. | ||
She did surprise her. | ||
And she took that fight on super short notice, if I remember. | ||
She's a beast, man. | ||
I feel like Holly's hesitant lately. | ||
Hey, man. | ||
She has tough matchups. | ||
No joke, dude. | ||
And she kept cracking her with that counter right hook. | ||
That lead counter hook. | ||
She kept taking her head off the center line and just dropping that right hook in. | ||
She's a world-class striker, man. | ||
So is Holly, though. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
She is. | ||
But don't you think that Holly is in more of a boxing world? | ||
Like, she's a 19-time boxing champion. | ||
Like, Holly's boxing. | ||
Like, as far as her footwork, her speed, her movement, especially her counters. | ||
Like, when someone's going after her, she's brilliant as a counter striker. | ||
I feel like Holly is the fastest, probably the fastest striker as far as just being able to get her shots off. | ||
Like if you were to time from when she throws to somebody's face. | ||
She's certainly fast, but I mean, in her weight class, maybe she's the fastest. | ||
Or one of the fastest. | ||
Yoana's going, huh? | ||
Yeah, Yoana's faster. | ||
Shut your fucking mouth, Yoana. | ||
This is true. | ||
You ever seen Yoana do those videos on Twitter where her trainer's holding pads and she's ripping into them? | ||
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Yeah. | |
It looks fake. | ||
Dude. | ||
She's insane. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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Ta-da-da-da! | |
She's the best striker in the UFC. Jamie, see if you can pull some of those up. | ||
If you can try to spell her name. | ||
You think she's the best striker in the UFC even among guys? | ||
I do. | ||
That's a huge thing to say. | ||
Damn. | ||
Well, I would say Wonderboy would argue with that. | ||
And I would say that there's a few other fighters that are just strikers. | ||
Overeem being K-1 Grand Prix champion. | ||
But you know what, man? | ||
The real problem is saying she's the best or one person's the best. | ||
It's so subjective, especially if they're never going to fight each other. | ||
We all love to do it. | ||
It also depends the caliber of person you're fighting, too. | ||
Watch this. | ||
Look at this. | ||
She's doing these sprawls, and she's getting up, firing combinations. | ||
You look at pure technique, though, man. | ||
She's a fucking nightmare. | ||
Oh, dude. | ||
She's so sharp. | ||
In the fight, too? | ||
Yeah. | ||
She's super sharp. | ||
You don't see Overeem with that same technique. | ||
Granted, he's a K-1 world champion. | ||
It's different, too. | ||
It's hard to compare. | ||
115-pound girl, 200-gillion-pound man. | ||
It's kind of tough. | ||
He smoked Junior Dos Santos with one shot. | ||
200-gillion-pound man. | ||
I don't know why that's funny to me. | ||
He smoked Junior Dos Santos with one left hook. | ||
I mean, Alistair Overeem is a beast. | ||
Oh, God. | ||
Yes, he's a beast of the beast. | ||
It's hard to look at him the same way you look at anybody else, because first of all, he's in a division where anyone connects, everybody goes night-night, right? | ||
Correct. | ||
So you're fighting differently. | ||
It's such a totally different kind of world. | ||
We don't see his technique, because one of his jabs will knock a motherfucker out, so you don't see five rounds of over him like you do with Johanna. | ||
Johanna will go the distance, and her technique will be flawless. | ||
Minute one in the first round to minute one in the next. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
But she can also tend to be... | ||
Somebody at that size can afford to be and take more chances and actually stand in the pocket and throw. | ||
Whereas you guys, at your weight, you've got to be so careful because one mistake... | ||
Don't say you guys. | ||
I got out of that bullshit. | ||
I'm saying heavyweights. | ||
The margin for error seems like it's so much smaller. | ||
100%. | ||
You're totally right. | ||
100%, Brian. | ||
I think that these guys, you know, you're looking at, like, Ben Rothwell. | ||
Like, Ben Rothwell knocked out Overeem in the first round. | ||
And now Overeem is going to be fighting for the title against Stipe. | ||
But Ben Rothwell just got, like, a full five-round beating by Junior Dos Santos. | ||
He got dealt with. | ||
Junior Dos Santos boxed his face off. | ||
It was crazy. | ||
It was like, the best Junior has looked in years. | ||
And kicked him. | ||
Front kicked him. | ||
And then you've got to think that Alistair knocked out Junior. | ||
I agree. | ||
So the MMA math in the heavyweight division is bananas. | ||
Yep. | ||
Silly. | ||
Super silly, yeah. | ||
Everyone is so powerful. | ||
Everyone's so big. | ||
Like, Stipe knocking out Verdum like that. | ||
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Nuts. | |
Jesus Christ. | ||
This is a crazy-ass division in the craziest sport. | ||
And it's also an older division. | ||
That's what's amazing to me. | ||
Do we know any young heavyweights who are 21, 22, like that age, even in the mix? | ||
Well, I'll tell you who everybody should be putting their attention on. | ||
Can I guess? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
Derek Lewis? | ||
Francis Ganot. | ||
Oh, you're talking about the... | ||
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The Cameroon dude who's a natural 2.0? | |
What? | ||
Dude. | ||
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What? | |
We haven't seen him grapple, though. | ||
Cameroon. | ||
Dude, he's a fucking powerful man. | ||
He looks like straight Predator. | ||
I'm telling you, when that dude moves in on guys and he throws bombs on them, I'm just, I'm waiting for a really solid opponent for him. | ||
Because, like, we have not seen him tested. | ||
He's fought all scrubs. | ||
And starched him. | ||
Yeah, we have not seen him tested, but I'll tell you, look at him up there. | ||
Dude, I'm telling you. | ||
And he's got very sharp technique. | ||
How old is he? | ||
He's young. | ||
He's not that young, is he? | ||
I think he's 28. How old is he? | ||
I would say 28's young. | ||
It's in the heavyweight division, it's young. | ||
I think in the heavyweight division, guys just need more time. | ||
Francis Nagano. | ||
29. 29. So he's damn near 30. Yeah, he'll be 30 in September, actually. | ||
He's a monster, though. | ||
I think he's in his prime, for sure, as an athlete. | ||
We don't know what he can do. | ||
I'd like to see him versus Derrick Lewis. | ||
I would love to see that. | ||
Derrick Lewis looked so good in that Roy Nelson fight. | ||
Goddamn, he looked good. | ||
That's a tough fight, too, man. | ||
He looked good, man. | ||
His combinations were fast. | ||
He looked really improved. | ||
You know how you see a guy fight and you go, whoa, this guy hit another level. | ||
That's how I felt with Derrick Lewis. | ||
Was he the guy who got knocked out by Metreon? | ||
Yes. | ||
He just wasn't ready for that. | ||
But that Roy Nelson's a huge step. | ||
And to go three rounds with Roy, there couldn't be a better thing for his career. | ||
Because he's just starching guys. | ||
You don't learn shit, trust me. | ||
You don't learn shit. | ||
And then you go three rounds with a vet like Roy. | ||
I was just so impressed with his combinations. | ||
That's what I was most impressed with. | ||
Wow, the way he's putting it together. | ||
And his endurance, too. | ||
Because I thought he was just a meathead throwing bombs. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
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If you look at his previous side, it's kind of like, alright, he's just a big, powerful guy. | |
Yeah, he lands right hand, the guy's going to sleep. | ||
But you look at Roy, you're like, shit, he's putting combos together, man. | ||
Yeah, he This cardio is decent. | ||
Oh, she got clipped. | ||
Yeah, he put real good combinations together. | ||
I'd like to see him versus your boy, the predator. | ||
That would be a very interesting fight. | ||
He's had much more experience against higher level guys, I guess you'd say, right? | ||
Mitrione and now Roy Nelson. | ||
Mitrione's tough guy got starched, so he didn't get a lot of experience. | ||
He didn't really learn from it. | ||
Yeah, that's true. | ||
But how many fights has Derrick had now in the UFC? I want to say four? | ||
Probably five, right? | ||
The thing is, with both those guys, if you give them... | ||
You know, because when you get to the top, not every guy's going to sit there and bang with you. | ||
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Right. | |
You can get a wrestler. | ||
See, but the thing about Gano is his Muay Thai. | ||
What makes me super interested in him, not just is his speed, his size, his ability to put guys away, like what we're seeing. | ||
I mean, he puts guys away. | ||
But it's also the way you're watching them move. | ||
Very, like, fluid athlete. | ||
Like, when he's doing things, everything's... | ||
He's smooth. | ||
And he throws hard fucking kicks, man. | ||
Yeah, the only X factor with him is the grappling. | ||
Yeah, so Derek's had four more wins. | ||
He beat Gabriel Gonzaga, he beat Grabowski, and he beat Victor Beska before he fought Nelson. | ||
Looks good, man. | ||
He looks real good, dude. | ||
Real good. | ||
Four fight, win streak, and getting wins over Gonzaga and Nelson, two vats. | ||
Yeah, I remember that fight with Sean Jordan, too, but I think Sean Jordan hook kicked him in the head. | ||
Yeah, he did. | ||
That was crazy. | ||
That was crazy. | ||
That was the first time anybody has ever, and he's a huge guy, but the first time anybody ever, like, hay-oed somebody with a hook kick. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
Did he? | ||
Sean Jordan? | ||
I feel like he did. | ||
Maybe. | ||
Wow. | ||
Great guy, though. | ||
Really nice guy. | ||
And he was short for a heavyweight, man. | ||
He's a large man. | ||
He's a tank, though. | ||
What is he? | ||
Played football at LSU fullback on the national championship team. | ||
By the way, he could do backflips. | ||
What? | ||
Very easily. | ||
He's 260. That's ridiculous. | ||
That's a backflip. | ||
Fucking sticks it. | ||
That is stupid. | ||
And he's nice as fuck. | ||
He's a great guy. | ||
Great guy. | ||
What's up? | ||
Is it easier to become untakedownable as a heavyweight or as a lightweight or a welterweight? | ||
No. | ||
Probably depends on who you're wrestling on. | ||
At heavyweight, there's a lot less explosive guys that are going to take you down. | ||
I disagree with that. | ||
Really? | ||
There's some explosive fucking guys at heavyweight, man. | ||
Taking shots, though. | ||
There's this Russian dude who's going to join the ranks of MMA after the Olympics. | ||
You know what I'm talking about? | ||
The Russian heavyweight dude? | ||
Not Karelin. | ||
Just pull this motherfucker up. | ||
Pull this guy up. | ||
Everybody's fucked. | ||
Those Russian scientific experiments that live in Siberia. | ||
This dude is so good. | ||
He's so technical. | ||
And so fucking stupid strong. | ||
He's freestyle. | ||
Freestyle. | ||
His fucking takedowns are ruthless. | ||
He runs through guys. | ||
He just keeps running backwards. | ||
He just keeps running forwards. | ||
Just tripping. | ||
I'm hitting one takedown after the next. | ||
Who can do that in the heavyweight division right now? | ||
Well, there he is. | ||
Cain Velasquez. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Pull up video of the homeboy and give me his full name because I don't want to butcher his name. | ||
He's not hearing a peep out of any wrestler he comes up against. | ||
Not a peep. | ||
Well, MMA's different. | ||
MMA wrestling's different. | ||
Bilyal Makov. | ||
Is that how you say it, Brian? | ||
How do you say that? | ||
I would say it's Bilyal Makov. | ||
So watch this motherfucker wrestle. | ||
He's so fucking fast and so big. | ||
He's 290. And so strong. | ||
And when he gets to MMA, when he gets to MMA, he's running through motherfuckers. | ||
You are not stopping this takedown. | ||
This is not happening. | ||
Oh, what a nightmare. | ||
And for sure he's going to do MMA? Yes, 100%. | ||
100%. | ||
Dude, I'm telling you, he's just going to be throwing dudes around. | ||
They're not going to know what the fuck to do. | ||
You know how it is, Joe. | ||
MMA wrestling's different than what he's doing, though. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
Oh, yeah, for sure. | ||
Look, he's going to have more trouble. | ||
There's going to be guys who figure out how to push him off. | ||
They're going to be more defensive. | ||
These guys are forced to engage with him, right? | ||
There's going to be guys that are not going to want to engage with him. | ||
We're going to have much more distance. | ||
Verdum ain't going to be easy to take down. | ||
That's right. | ||
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Even when you do take him down, enjoy that. | |
He's got a problem. | ||
Yeah, he's got a lot of problems. | ||
But he's not going to fight Verdum right off the bat, obviously. | ||
No, he's going to be on that Derek Lewis and the Francis Ganot track. | ||
And by the way, who's to say this guy can't punch a fucking hole through your universe? | ||
I'm not saying he can't. | ||
Look at the way he's built. | ||
I bet that guy could throw fucking hammers. | ||
I want no problems. | ||
Who's to say he's not been boxing anyway since he was eight? | ||
Listen, if he's preparing for the UFC, is this him right here? | ||
Yep. | ||
Oh, don't show me. | ||
This is terrible. | ||
God damn it. | ||
That doesn't mean anything. | ||
He just ruined everything. | ||
Elbows in, sir! | ||
He's just shadowboxing. | ||
I want to see him hit something. | ||
Stiff as fuck. | ||
Yeah, his hands are... | ||
What's going on with his wrists? | ||
It's like he's trying to grab people as he's punching them. | ||
Hey, for the record, I'm not the one laughing. | ||
I was going to say, I'm just watching. | ||
I don't have to find him either. | ||
I think he looks great. | ||
Yeah, see, he's such a big fucking gorilla, though. | ||
He could just haymaker on you. | ||
True. | ||
He could be on that Brock Lesnar and say, fuck, strike, and check this double leg out. | ||
He's definitely got to work on his kicks, too. | ||
But hey, man, he's a super athlete. | ||
Yeah, that's terrible. | ||
Goddammit. | ||
His timing's off so bad. | ||
Yeah, who knows how long ago this is, too. | ||
Yeah, and by the way, he probably could get better in a month. | ||
Like, bring him to Dwayne Ludwig. | ||
Yeah, his learning curve is probably... | ||
Oh, yeah, man. | ||
You know, he's such a super athlete. | ||
He should fly right to AK right now and just be like, what's up? | ||
Yeah, he's a fucking super athlete, man. | ||
Look at the size of this fuck. | ||
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Stop. | |
How tall is it? | ||
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He's so big! | |
How tall is it? | ||
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I don't know. | |
Probably like 7'8". | ||
Jamie, how big is this fucking gorilla? | ||
Oh my god. | ||
6'5", 290. Jesus Christ! | ||
Jesus Christ! | ||
He's got a lot of weight to lose! | ||
He's got to get to 265! | ||
6'5", 290! | ||
How is he going to get to 265? | ||
Because you saw the test better than the Olympics. | ||
That's what I was going to say! | ||
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Yusala's going to be sniffing his ass so much. | |
All wrestling muscle. | ||
This guy's probably on some straight fucking DNA manipulation. | ||
He's out of a movie. | ||
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He's fucking Bebop and Rock Study from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. | |
He's so far ahead of the curve, they don't even need steroids. | ||
They just put this dude in one of them easy-bake microwave ovens. | ||
He's like Bane. | ||
He's fucking Bane. | ||
Good luck with that. | ||
The size of this fucking dude is a big guy. | ||
Just wrestling, just throwing men around. | ||
And the problem is, like, okay, say he does get down to 265 and then he starts fighting in MMA. And if he's 290, I don't know if he competes at 290. Well, he's a heavyweight. | ||
I don't think he has to lose any weight, right? | ||
So maybe if he just watches his diet and incorporates more striking and some running and shit like that, he might get down to 270 anyway and just be able to slide under. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Just get in the steam room, lose a couple 10 pounds? | ||
I don't think it's gonna be that hard. | ||
That guy takes 10-pound shits. | ||
He has a side of him. | ||
He has a long road ahead of him, either way. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
Well, he does. | ||
But, you know what, man? | ||
Guys that become, like, that level world champion at anything that's combat sport related, they figure it out, man. | ||
Look at DC. Yeah, exactly. | ||
DC's a perfect example. | ||
That guy's a monster. | ||
Perfect example. | ||
Yeah, that kind of work ethic. | ||
DC's not physically, you know, this big either. | ||
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Imposing. | |
Yeah, imposing at all. | ||
I don't want this guy hitting me. | ||
You don't want this guy hitting you. | ||
If it's that slow, you do. | ||
He might be stiff, dude. | ||
This is a big motherfucker. | ||
You do not want this guy hitting you. | ||
I'm telling you, man, he's not even doing it perfectly yet. | ||
He's off his feet when he's punching. | ||
He's not sitting down enough. | ||
He's not torquing his hips enough. | ||
But good luck if you take one of those on the chin. | ||
That's a big fucking dude, man. | ||
Yeah, he's getting a lot of people problems. | ||
I mean, if you look at the way he's striking, like fluidity, you want to look at a big, fluid guy? | ||
Look at Rico Verhoeven. | ||
Rico Verhoeven, the Glory Heavyweight Champion? | ||
Yeah, he's doing both, right? | ||
He's gonna fight Badr Hari, though. | ||
Yes, I saw that. | ||
Badr Hari's my boy! | ||
We should do something for that. | ||
See if you get a clip of that guy fighting. | ||
He's like what you want to see when you look at a heavyweight striker. | ||
So if this gentleman, this Russian gentleman, just figures out how to sit down more on his stuff, he's so athletic! | ||
Rico's not hearing a peep out of that Russian polar bear. | ||
Not a fucking heap. | ||
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Well, you don't think that guy can take Rico down? | |
Fuck no! | ||
He's that AK just training takedown defense. | ||
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Oh man. | |
Throwing fucking knees to end your world. | ||
I wish I had so much faith. | ||
I don't know, man. | ||
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Rico and Rico's more of a beast, I think. | |
He's a bad motherfucker when it comes to kickboxing, for sure. | ||
My God! | ||
What's interesting about him is his pace. | ||
Because he puts a pace on heavyweights they just can't fuck with, and he's not a little heavyweight. | ||
No, he's massive. | ||
Look how big his fucking legs are. | ||
Oh! | ||
He's left high-cooking people in the face with his front leg as a heavyweight. | ||
He's a big dude. | ||
What he's doing is more impressive to me as a big guy. | ||
To be that athletic and smooth and just world-class kickboxer, it's nuts. | ||
Well, yeah, I mean, look, it's super impressive, but you can't deny how impressive it is that that Russian gentleman is just dominating. | ||
They're both impressed. | ||
Don't get me wrong. | ||
I'm saying if I have to invest in one, let's say they're both 21 years old, Rico's about to kick your fucking face off. | ||
Yeah. | ||
The other guy's gonna take you down and hump you. | ||
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He's a bad motherfucker. | |
Well, that guy might, I don't know, he might take you down. | ||
He might spike it on your neck and... | ||
He might pull your face off. | ||
It helps to put your face off. | ||
Russian stuff. | ||
Will Sasso was telling us about that. | ||
Who was a Samoan wrestler? | ||
He was a WWE guy, and he was so big, he got in a fight in a bar, and he reached into the dude's mouth. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
He reached into the dude's mouth with his giant Samoan fingers, and he grabbed the bottom of his teeth and just went, and broke his teeth out of his mouth. | ||
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King Kong. | |
Yeah, he just went, hey, you're talking to him. | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
Pulled his bottom teeth out, broke them off. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Some big guys. | ||
Hey, you know what this party needs? | ||
Who whine? | ||
I could use a little wine. | ||
Send out the Brian signal. | ||
I just forgot what the fuck I was going to ask you guys about. | ||
We're talking about Rico and the Russian barbarian. | ||
I wanted to talk about the Russian doping program. | ||
Because they almost pulled the entire Russian team out of the Olympics. | ||
Because the government was in on it. | ||
I got a great Russian doping story. | ||
Alright, we'll wait on it. | ||
There's a whole fight going on, we're not even paying attention. | ||
I didn't see one minute. | ||
This is what a fight companion is. | ||
No, I've been balls deep in this Russian. | ||
I haven't seen one fucking ounce of this fight. | ||
Back to this fight real quick, unless you guys got more shit, but you were talking about a new rule change, about tighter clothes and like... | ||
Yeah, there was one of the things that I might have read it wrong. | ||
I want to make sure I get it right, but I believe that one of the new rule changes is no loose clothing for female fighters. | ||
It's been a problem? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know. | ||
If they had to make a rule, you would think that, you know, we got to stop this. | ||
How are they not going to change the 12-6 elbows? | ||
Might have happened once or twice. | ||
I do not know. | ||
What the fuck? | ||
You know they changed all these rules, right, Eddie? | ||
Yeah. | ||
The sanctioned body changed a bunch of rules, like what wins rounds, 10-8 rounds, stuff like that. | ||
And I'm like, sweet, I bet they do 12-6 elbows. | ||
Yeah, they should have done that, but what they did do that's even more interesting, honestly, is this new rule about putting your hands down the mat. | ||
You have to have both your hands flat on the mat, both hands, to constitute being in a position where you can't get kicked or kneed. | ||
That's better. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
That's way better. | ||
Way better. | ||
Because it makes it less of a fucking game. | ||
It's real shit. | ||
I agree. | ||
I think that's the beginning of just crushing that altogether. | ||
Yeah, it needs to be crushed because we have to be honest about what the sport is, okay? | ||
And there's a sport of fighting. | ||
And if you take away some really super effective maneuvers, but you leave in a bunch of other super effective maneuvers, like, we've got to be consistent, and we're not consistent. | ||
And there's a position where you can be kind of safe When you have your hand on the mat, you can't be kneed in the face, you can't be kicked in the face. | ||
But that causes, like, safety-first kind of behavior. | ||
But also, guys are taking advantage of it. | ||
Playing this weird game. | ||
It's super unrealistic. | ||
So that's gone from this point on. | ||
You can't do that. | ||
Both hands. | ||
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Fuck. | |
It's super unrealistic. | ||
Yep, and then they're also putting more emphasis on 10-8 rounds. | ||
You're going to see more frequently 10-8 rounds now. | ||
You know, it's like, what if they decided to not... | ||
Fucking finally. | ||
That's way better. | ||
The 12-6 elbows, though, is the one thing I went through the list. | ||
I'm like, how the fuck did they not address that? | ||
But they did allow this new rule. | ||
The hands on the mat rule, I think, is going to be more of a factor than even the 12-6 elbow rule. | ||
I think it's very smart that they did it because I think you can still protect yourself in those positions. | ||
You're talking about someone who's trying to make their way back up to their feet, ideally to strike or to grapple again. | ||
It's a transitionary period. | ||
So to say this guy can't kick you in a transitionary moving period, it's stupid. | ||
It's very stupid. | ||
Yeah. | ||
No, they also changed open hand policy. | ||
You know John Jones and Travis Brown? | ||
They're going to warn you and they're going to take a point. | ||
If you're fighting with open hands, you're going to have some issues. | ||
That's smart. | ||
I think they should change the gloves. | ||
I really do. | ||
I think they should go back to Pride. | ||
I think they can go back to Pride gloves. | ||
I don't think it's going to be... | ||
I think if you look at the amount of eye pokes in Pride versus the amount of eye pokes in the UFC, I don't think you can compare it to them. | ||
That's because those guys are so juiced up even if you hit their eyes. | ||
They didn't give a fuck. | ||
There's like sharks. | ||
You shut their eyes like, I don't care. | ||
You know what other rule I would like changed as well, and this sounds brutal, but when you have someone's back, you should be able to elbow them in the back of the fucking head. | ||
Why can't you? | ||
You can elbow them in the front of the head. | ||
That's so intense. | ||
You can elbow them in the front of the head. | ||
The back of the head's too... | ||
No, no, no, it's too... | ||
People tap quick. | ||
You know, back in the day when that shit was legal, you didn't even have to have a good rear naked choke. | ||
You get on their back. | ||
You throw a couple of these and dudes just fucking... | ||
No, I'm a weird. | ||
They're tapping quick. | ||
Different game now, my man. | ||
You can't have that. | ||
Back of the head? | ||
It's a brutal sport. | ||
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You can head kick someone with your shin in the front of the eyes. | |
In the eyes. | ||
That's fine. | ||
Kick them in the eyes, but you can't kick them in the back of the head. | ||
No, but you can kick them in the back of the head. | ||
That's where it's weird. | ||
When you're fighting, you're standing up. | ||
If you throw a head kick and you hit a guy in the back of the head and he goes to sleep, you don't get penalized at all. | ||
You won by knockout every single time. | ||
There you go. | ||
It's a brutal sport. | ||
Guys, almost always, when they throw high kicks, you'll see, especially if it goes over the left shoulder, say if you're both standing orthodox, and you throw a right high kick and it goes over the left shoulder, the first place it's hitting is the back of your head a lot of the time. | ||
It wraps around, too. | ||
Imagine what everyone's records would look like in the history of MMA if that was never taken out. | ||
There would have been a lot of wins and losses switched up. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
People forget that in the beginning when you'd get the back, you didn't even need a rear naked choke. | ||
You just ride the dude and you fuck him up and they tap really quick. | ||
I'd rather see knees to a down opponent than kicks. | ||
I don't see what's the big deal with that. | ||
Was it Ben Spiker versus Henzo Gracie? | ||
Is that who it was? | ||
It was a judo guy? | ||
I remember John Lewis did it to somebody and the guy tapped so quick. | ||
As soon as he took it, John Lewis went, bop! | ||
The guy tapped and was fucking over. | ||
The fight was done. | ||
Back of the head's tough, Eddie, with the elbows, man. | ||
I don't know. | ||
But isn't it really effective? | ||
Can you just explain how people are getting kicked in the back of the head and no one's complaining about that? | ||
It's because you can't control it. | ||
If you're kicking a guy, if you throw a head kick, And it goes over the shoulder and lands with the instep. | ||
It's almost always hit in the back of the head. | ||
I agree, but same thing if you're throwing a huge right hand, the guy goes to slip in the back of the head. | ||
But there's no difference. | ||
You can't control that. | ||
You can't control if a guy has... | ||
It doesn't matter if it's on purpose or on access. | ||
It does, though. | ||
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It's happening. | |
We just saw a guy get head kicked. | ||
It's happening. | ||
It was just exactly what we were looking at. | ||
Someone did a cartwheel kick and kicked the back of someone's head. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yair did. | ||
Yair threw a cartwheel kick. | ||
And it's not intentional. | ||
But that back of the head gets hit all the time with kicks. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Gets hit with wheel kicks, too. | ||
A lot. | ||
All the time. | ||
What do you think hits with a harder impact? | ||
One of those kicks that you're talking about? | ||
Or when you're riding on someone's back and you're throwing an elbow? | ||
Those aren't nearly as hard as the head kicks. | ||
They're not nearly as hard. | ||
The head kicks are way harder. | ||
But you're stationary and you're really stuck. | ||
The dudes are going to go like this now. | ||
Dudes are going to go like this. | ||
They should shell up and they've got to realize they can't just sit in that position and defend the choke. | ||
Guys are punching away anyways. | ||
You look at Kane, Travis Brown. | ||
Kane just punches. | ||
They're gonna stop the fight when they get back there. | ||
Guys really aren't going for the choke unless they're jiu-jitsu based. | ||
They're really just raining down punches and they stop the fight. | ||
There's a big fucking difference between punching someone in the back of the head on the back and then elbowing. | ||
Yeah, because Elvin, you're gonna have someone's fucking career or smash their skull. | ||
They're just gonna tap real quick. | ||
Unless you're Rumble Johnson. | ||
Rumble Johnson put Ryan Bader to sleep. | ||
When he had his back in that same way, you know? | ||
I mean, that guy hits so goddamn hard. | ||
So does Shane Turlin. | ||
Eddie, in a lot of ways, I agree with you. | ||
I mean, we should really consider it. | ||
It is a very effective technique. | ||
The real question is, like, how dangerous is it? | ||
Why is it more dangerous? | ||
I guess it's because the brainstem is there. | ||
Correct. | ||
There's not as much protection and bone back there. | ||
The brainstem. | ||
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Yes. | |
But, well, it seems that that is an area that's vulnerable, much like your eyeballs, much like your temple. | ||
It's like these are vulnerable areas. | ||
And it's real weird to me that we take, like, even if it's the most vulnerable one, why are we taking that spot and not really taking it out of the game either? | ||
Like, you can still hit guys there with head kicks, and you... | ||
Then why not just kick guys in the dick? | ||
If you want to end the fight, just forget the cup. | ||
Let's just start kicking the dick. | ||
Let's make it a real fight. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
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That's where I draw the line. | |
Where do you stop? | ||
I draw the line. | ||
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No, right there. | |
You stop at the dick. | ||
Why? | ||
Listen, man. | ||
That's a real good question. | ||
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Why? | |
It is a good question. | ||
Because without a dick... | ||
Listen, it's a good question. | ||
Because honestly, if you look at the early UFCs, there was a lot of dick fucking kicking. | ||
Yes! | ||
Remember Joe Son? | ||
Do you remember Keith Hackney and Joe Son? | ||
Fuck yes! | ||
Keith Hackney's in side control dropping bombs on Joe Son's dick bombs. | ||
Dick bombs, son. | ||
And I'll go you one better than that. | ||
Back of the head is different than your dick. | ||
That's a big difference. | ||
You can't fuck someone with the back of your head. | ||
I'll go you the most fucked up one ever. | ||
Big Daddy Goodridge. | ||
And the Pedro. | ||
Do you know this one? | ||
I do. | ||
Big Daddy Goodridge reached into that dude's shorts and crushed his dick and balls. | ||
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The Pedro. | |
We talked about it on the podcast before. | ||
Crushed it. | ||
It's the Pedro. | ||
Like Play-Doh. | ||
That fat dick like Play-Doh. | ||
He turned his nut sack into peanut butter. | ||
That's what he said. | ||
So that's unacceptable, but back of the head's all good? | ||
That is so awful. | ||
How do you not understand the difference between your Johnson and the back of your head? | ||
I'd rather get kicked in the fucking Johnson in the back of my brain. | ||
Oh, I don't know about that. | ||
That could ruin your dick forever. | ||
You dick a full-blown kick from Mark Hunt or somebody. | ||
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I'd let him kick my head. | |
Oh my god. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Pick your poison. | ||
Both aren't good. | ||
Yeah, but if he kicks you in the head, your dick might never work again. | ||
Or you won't remember. | ||
Yeah, you won't even know it again. | ||
You would choose the dick over the back of the head? | ||
100%. | ||
Wow. | ||
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Wow. | |
That's strong. | ||
We need to take a poll. | ||
That's strong. | ||
Dick or the back of the head? | ||
What part cunt kicks you in the back of the head? | ||
You're not going to remember doing shit. | ||
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That's true. | |
At least you could... | ||
And the potential he can die. | ||
No one's going to die from being kicked in the dick. | ||
It depends on where is he kicking you in the dick. | ||
Yeah, is he on the trunk? | ||
What if he kicks you across the... | ||
If your dick is riding high and he kicks you the shin across the top, Bring it. | ||
I say bring it. | ||
You know, you might be able to deal with that. | ||
It's just going to smash your dick down a little bit and then let it go. | ||
You might need surgery on it. | ||
You hit the trunk. | ||
I'm all good, Doug. | ||
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You got a strong dick, dude. | |
Yeah, I got a power dick. | ||
I never work up in football. | ||
I get fucking cleated all the time. | ||
My dick looks like the front of a great white shark nose. | ||
Just battle wounds. | ||
Just a shark nose. | ||
Oh, that's so funny. | ||
Look at that shit! | ||
Jamie's got it up there. | ||
Oh, play it again. | ||
I'm sorry. | ||
That's what I want! | ||
This is Keith Hackney. | ||
Meanwhile, he could have gone for the Von Flu choke, Eddie Bravo. | ||
He just said, fuck the Von Flu choke. | ||
The Von Flu is there, son. | ||
The Von Flu is there. | ||
You don't give a fuck about the Von Flu when you're punching the man's dick off. | ||
I know. | ||
It's amazing how many guys still hold on to the headlock when they get taken down. | ||
Unbelievable. | ||
They're in side control and they're still clamped down on the headlock. | ||
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Super amateur. | |
Super amateur when I see that. | ||
Drives me fucking nuts. | ||
Last time I saw it get used, though, was OSP. Against Cody Donovan. | ||
He did it against... | ||
And he also did... | ||
They... | ||
I think... | ||
Oh, no. | ||
He took Cody down. | ||
He was looking for... | ||
Yeah, he did do it against Nikita. | ||
Yeah, he did it to Nikita. | ||
A lot of power, too. | ||
Fuck, yeah. | ||
That fucking Krilov. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
Did you see him against Ed Herman? | ||
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That head kick? | |
Not just the head kick. | ||
It was everything. | ||
He kept kicking his body, kneeing his body, and he just marched forward. | ||
He's looking good. | ||
Remember, he was a heavyweight. | ||
He started off at a heavyweight. | ||
Dude, that guy's 23. He's like 23, 24. Might be 24. He's trouble. | ||
He's super young and fucking real talented. | ||
Well, fuck middleweight. | ||
He's middleweight. | ||
He's middleweight. | ||
What do you mean? | ||
Didn't he fight at middleweight? | ||
No, no. | ||
Light heavyweight. | ||
Yeah, he's light heavyweight. | ||
He's a big boy. | ||
When did Ed Herman go to light heavyweight? | ||
He went recently. | ||
This is his second fight at light heavyweight. | ||
Is it really? | ||
Yeah. | ||
God, I feel like it was middleweight. | ||
He won by knockout. | ||
No, Ed Herman's definitely light heavyweight now. | ||
He won by knockout in his last fight before this Krylov fight. | ||
Krilov just, man, he's something. | ||
He's hit his stride for sure. | ||
His goddamn karate is so good. | ||
He's got that, like, Kilkishin karate style. | ||
That's right, he knocked out Tim Bosch. | ||
That's right. | ||
That was that light heavyweight. | ||
This Krilov guy, man, he's something. | ||
Yeah, it's going to be cool to see. | ||
And they need that young blood there, too. | ||
Yep. | ||
It's great, man. | ||
How about fucking Woodley? | ||
Dude. | ||
You want to talk about a smart business decision, not fighting, sitting out for that title shot and it paid off. | ||
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Hey, can you explain to me the UFC deal? | |
The selling of the UFC and how that works really? | ||
I know Dana's still on board, right? | ||
He's still part owner? | ||
I honestly have not even asked a single person what the deal is. | ||
Oh, really? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Isn't it public, though? | ||
Yes. | ||
I know they're selling it. | ||
This is what I know. | ||
They're selling it, and Dana stays on. | ||
Correct. | ||
But I don't know what kind of deal he has. | ||
He's sold. | ||
He's still the president, and the Titas are no longer involved in it. | ||
At all. | ||
There's different guys involved. | ||
There's a bunch of people involved now. | ||
But nothing changes, really. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
Dana's still on board as the president. | ||
He has the power to make all the decisions. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Not as much power? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I don't know those details. | ||
I don't, you know, I don't know how they did it before. | ||
Lorenzo and Frank are out. | ||
They're done. | ||
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Wow. | |
They went, cha-ching! | ||
Four billion. | ||
Give us our fucking million. | ||
Four billion? | ||
Give us our billions. | ||
We the fuck out. | ||
Who the fuck bought it? | ||
That agency in Hollywood? | ||
WME. And some other partners. | ||
I don't know how that works, what they call it. | ||
If it's a new organization that's bought the UFC, I don't know how it works. | ||
If they just came together and formed a new... | ||
I don't know how that works. | ||
So there's no more Zufa in the beginning. | ||
No more Zufa. | ||
No more Zufa. | ||
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That's gone. | |
Wow. | ||
Just UFC. The same company bought the rodeo, too. | ||
And you know what, man? | ||
We, as fans that are sitting here watching the fights right now, we owe the Fertittas everything. | ||
Fuck yeah. | ||
If they didn't have the balls and the money and the risk-taking acumen, they didn't know when to stay in and when to bail and how they could turn this thing around. | ||
They're brilliant. | ||
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Dude! | |
They deserve everything. | ||
They are what Eddie and I used to always dream of. | ||
Eddie and I, when we were fans back in the old days, when nobody... | ||
The dark days. | ||
You couldn't get it. | ||
You couldn't even get it on cable. | ||
It was banned from cable. | ||
You had to get DirecTV. | ||
I had DirecTV specifically so I could get the UFC. You needed two Scrooge McDucks to go, yeah, we'll see what we can do with this thing. | ||
Dude, those guys, they came in at the perfect time. | ||
It was dead in the water. | ||
And through all their risk-taking and all their just smart business decisions, smart promotional decisions... | ||
They're brilliant, man. | ||
And then putting together the ultimate fighter. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
You know what they're going to do? | ||
You know what I think they're going to do? | ||
Their passion is football. | ||
They're going to bring the Raiders to Vegas. | ||
They might. | ||
That's what I think they're going to do. | ||
Is that what they're trying to do? | ||
You must have heard that. | ||
You can't just make that shit up. | ||
Might be. | ||
They might build a gold spaceship and just fly all over Vegas. | ||
Or they might build a gold spaceship. | ||
Suntan their dicks. | ||
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Just a gold spaceship. | |
Like those fucking Star Trek just fucking circling. | ||
Just like a giant hovercraft and they just fucking swim naked on the roof of it. | ||
And just fucking teleport mad loads of bitches up. | ||
Their lives don't, I mean... | ||
Nothing changes. | ||
They're still gonna get killer seats at the UFC. | ||
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Killer seats? | |
Fuck yeah, they don't give a fuck about seats. | ||
Yeah, they can sit right next to me. | ||
Nothing's really going to change with their life. | ||
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No. | |
They can go backstage anytime. | ||
They can just walk and just be like they are. | ||
They could buy all of us in here except for Rogan. | ||
They could buy all of us. | ||
Those guys are beautiful. | ||
We owe them. | ||
We owe Frank and we owe Lorenzo. | ||
Their passion's football though. | ||
We owe them big time. | ||
Especially Lorenzo. | ||
So that's what I think. | ||
He loves football. | ||
He loves football. | ||
And their son's a fucking stud at Notre Dame. | ||
He's passionate about MMA too. | ||
But he knows that MMA's... | ||
Their work is done as far as getting it mainstream. | ||
It's on Fox. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's on television all the time. | ||
It is mainstream. | ||
It's a mainstream, crazy, super popular sport. | ||
So, cash out! | ||
No, you don't get to their level without... | ||
Yeah, they're like, "Look, we got this. | ||
It's good. | ||
We're good. | ||
I'm giving you guys a fucking killer business. | ||
Give me the cash, and I'm just going to watch it and enjoy it from the outside. | ||
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Fucking see ya. | |
Yeah, I'm going to go fucking... | ||
From the exact same seat. | ||
Nothing changes. | ||
He can enjoy it. | ||
Dana, you good? | ||
You stay here. | ||
We're the fuck out. | ||
You good? | ||
See ya. | ||
Give us our billions. | ||
He can probably enjoy it more. | ||
You know? | ||
Because you can just relax and enjoy the fights. | ||
It's great that Dana stayed. | ||
That's great. | ||
I mean, it's... | ||
Yeah. | ||
Made a big difference. | ||
Look at this position. | ||
And it's great that you stayed, too. | ||
You know what, man? | ||
I came real close to not. | ||
Real close to not. | ||
Did you really? | ||
Oh, fuck yeah. | ||
I know you were telling me that. | ||
I never bought it, John. | ||
Yeah, I was real close. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah, I had to make sure that I was thinking about it correctly. | ||
I really had to spend time thinking about what I was doing. | ||
I definitely knew that I had to reduce the schedule. | ||
There was no way I was going to go back to doing it as many times as I was doing it before. | ||
I don't think it's good for you, man. | ||
I don't think flying that much is good for you. | ||
Fuck no. | ||
It's just not. | ||
Nothing. | ||
No, we're not made to be in the air and breathing that recycled air and shit in all the time. | ||
People that are flying every week, like road guys, like comics too, they have this look about them. | ||
They look like shit. | ||
They look weary. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I just don't think it's good for you. | ||
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And by the way, man, I read about radiation in space. | |
I'm pretty sure. | ||
I'm pretty sure. | ||
I'm an expert. | ||
I guess it is radiation though, right? | ||
When you go up in space. | ||
I think it's probably worse. | ||
I hate flying. | ||
I think I read that it's more radiation than you get when you get an x-ray. | ||
Every time you get in a plane. | ||
Really? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Let's see if that's true. | ||
I might have made that up. | ||
And then you're on the plane for what? | ||
12 hours? | ||
14 hours sometimes? | ||
I just went to Italy. | ||
That was at least 12 hours. | ||
You can keep that shit. | ||
I don't fly along in 5 hours. | ||
5 hours. | ||
But Italy's amazing. | ||
It's worth getting a little radiated. | ||
Nah. | ||
You don't think so? | ||
Nah, I won't do it. | ||
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Real? | |
No. | ||
Do you go through... | ||
We have great Italian food in LA. Do you opt out on the security line? | ||
What? | ||
Do you opt out on the security line? | ||
I got the fast pass, son. | ||
What he's saying is opting out of the scanner. | ||
Hell no, man. | ||
Fucking U.S. of A. They don't let you opt out. | ||
Wait a minute. | ||
Yeah, you can opt out. | ||
You don't have to go through that scan. | ||
Oh, but then they pat you down and shit and go through your luggage. | ||
They feel your dick. | ||
Dude, it's the craziest thing how they're allowed to touch your dick as long as it's with the back of the hand they tell you. | ||
Yeah, because where are you going to hide shit? | ||
With the back of my hand, that's where I'm going to hit your sensitive areas. | ||
Is that cool? | ||
I don't mind. | ||
As long as it's the back of the hand. | ||
Fuck yeah. | ||
Yeah, go ahead. | ||
I wonder what the reasoning is there. | ||
Like there's less nerves on the back of your hand? | ||
Yeah, it doesn't feel good. | ||
It's not as lame. | ||
It's not dirty. | ||
Yeah, it's not as gross. | ||
It's not as dirty. | ||
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Exactly. | |
It's the back of my head. | ||
If I did this, then oh, now I'm molesting it. | ||
Well, there you go. | ||
Risk on a flight is small. | ||
It says cosmic rays sound scary, but radiation risk on a flight is small. | ||
See if that was right about you get as much as you get when you get x-rayed. | ||
See if that's correct. | ||
That might be total bullshit. | ||
You never know what the fuck. | ||
It says pilots in the flight attendants get twice the incidence of melanoma compared to the general population, which could be part of where that comes from. | ||
Oh, well, there you go. | ||
Yeah, no shit, sure. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
Fuck all that, man. | ||
Pilots look like shit, too. | ||
You ever seen a handsome pilot? | ||
They all look like, fuck. | ||
You're not supposed to be up that high. | ||
Hell no, all the time. | ||
Up that high and breathing recycled air and other people's farts. | ||
And just fucking hanging with a guy next to you for hours. | ||
God damn it. | ||
God damn it. | ||
Fuck that job. | ||
Fuck you. | ||
We haven't said a word about this fight. | ||
I haven't seen one fucking... | ||
We haven't seen each other recently. | ||
We haven't, man. | ||
We get together. | ||
We have so much to talk about. | ||
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I know. | |
It's a good fight so far, though. | ||
The guy's got his back. | ||
Now, Eddie Bravo, case in point. | ||
Elbows dropping, right? | ||
You get that back mount, you immediately go right here. | ||
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It's over. | |
The fight can be just over. | ||
Can't have that shit on Fox, son. | ||
Boom, boom, boom. | ||
Save the back of the head. | ||
But wouldn't it be a position where you would have to protect that, like, really quick? | ||
Okay, no cup. | ||
How about you just fucking heel kick him in the nuts? | ||
No, but how come, seriously, how come it's okay to heel kick a guy in the temple? | ||
How come it's able to elbow a guy? | ||
I agree. | ||
A guy could have his head sideways, and you could smash down the point of your elbow into his temple, and that's a legal strike. | ||
Because I think with the brainstem, you don't have as much protection back here. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
Right, so it's like the connection. | ||
Yes. | ||
The critical connection to the brain? | ||
Yes. | ||
The fight would be over here. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I wonder, like, what... | ||
I mean, obviously it's dangerous to get hit anywhere in the head. | ||
But I wonder, like, how much more dangerous it is. | ||
I bet you it's significant. | ||
But it's already happening. | ||
Again, we talked about it with the kicks. | ||
You explained it. | ||
It's already happening all the time. | ||
You're not promoting it. | ||
No one's trying to... | ||
No one's promoting it, but we're not changing the result of a fight if somebody wheel kicks a guy and clips the back of his head. | ||
Because that shit happens all the time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
If it was that serious, they should, like, DQ the guy for those head kicks. | ||
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Yeah. | |
If they do the replay, the instant replay, they go, you know what? | ||
You lost. | ||
Do you ever see Ernesto Hoost versus Maurice Smith? | ||
God, forever ago. | ||
Check this. | ||
Jamie, pull that up. | ||
This is like a classic example of a behind-the-head kick. | ||
He's the lover, Nesta Hoos. | ||
Me too, and Maurice as well. | ||
I love Maurice. | ||
He's from Denver, son. | ||
Maurice is a bad motherfucker. | ||
Better represent. | ||
Kicking the fucking face. | ||
Maurice is a seriously skillful kickboxer, too. | ||
Hell yeah. | ||
And look at this. | ||
Watch this. | ||
Kaboosh! | ||
Well, that's right on the back of the neck. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I mean, absolutely perfectly placed. | ||
He should have been DQ. Look at this exchange. | ||
Look how good Hust is. | ||
Check this exchange out. | ||
In the middle, he blocks the knee. | ||
The kind of hip dexterity. | ||
I mean, he's almost doing a full split. | ||
Well, look how close they are. | ||
And he comes down. | ||
Yeah, look at this. | ||
But watch how he does it. | ||
Look at the distance, though. | ||
That's what's nuts. | ||
Maurice throws his knee. | ||
And check this. | ||
BOOM! I mean, that is just artwork over the top of the shoulder. | ||
That's the correct reaction. | ||
Your opponent throws a knee, you know that you got time. | ||
There's no way he's gonna get that knee back. | ||
He's just timing the movement. | ||
And a guy like Anderson, he would time when you would put your feet down, when you would... | ||
So he knows that if you're doing this, you're going here, and then maybe you have a pattern. | ||
Maybe you have something to do afterwards. | ||
Maybe you stay in the pocket and grab. | ||
Maybe you back up. | ||
But he just timed it perfect. | ||
As soon as that knee came down, he had a feeling Maurice would be there. | ||
That's why he's thrown that kick up 10,000 times, too. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
And the way he brought it around behind his shoulder. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
But the crazy thing there is from that distance, it's fucking nuts. | ||
Yo, dude, they were like uppercut distance. | ||
Yes, that's nuts. | ||
And he kicked them in the back of the head. | ||
And the flexibility of the hips is what you really have to have because you've got to have that ability to drop down over. | ||
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Boom! | |
God damn, that was beautiful. | ||
That was amazing. | ||
Good fucking clip. | ||
He's such a beast. | ||
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Super beast. | |
Ernesto Hoos was so technical, man. | ||
I still love watching him. | ||
Remember him and Bob Sapp? | ||
Fuck yeah. | ||
Remember that? | ||
I can't Bob Sapp beat him twice. | ||
I can't believe it. | ||
Well, because he fucked up his shoulder on one and then Bob just kept kicking at it. | ||
Oh, really? | ||
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Remember that? | |
Yeah, he fucked up his shoulder bad and then Bob realized it and kept kicking it. | ||
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Oh, look at this. | |
He's going for Darce. | ||
Look at this. | ||
I'm still waiting for the first Japanese necktie. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Right there. | ||
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Boom. | |
Right there, right? | ||
Drop down to that left shoulder. | ||
It would be over right there. | ||
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It's done. | |
Put your leg over. | ||
Look, he might even go for it. | ||
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So weird. | |
I don't think he knows it. | ||
A lot of people don't know it, man. | ||
But you know what? | ||
He still has... | ||
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Oh, he's still... | |
Oh, damn. | ||
It's pretty good dars. | ||
He's short-arming it, so it's... | ||
The guy doing good staying flat. | ||
Explain that to me? | ||
Oh, Bill. | ||
He didn't really have a full... | ||
It wasn't sunken. | ||
It was like this. | ||
That's why you're on short arm and neck. | ||
The guy had good defense too, staying flat. | ||
You see the hand, how deep the hand is? | ||
If you're like... | ||
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The fingers are right here, you could just tell that's not deep enough. | |
You know who I still want to fucking see in the UFC before all this bullshit is out? | ||
Let me guess. | ||
Take a guess. | ||
Hold on. | ||
He hasn't fought in the UFC ever? | ||
Right. | ||
Wrestler. | ||
Take a guess. | ||
He's a wrestler. | ||
Vladimir Klitschko. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
You know who it is. | ||
Yeah, I know who it is. | ||
Homeboy. | ||
Ben Askren. | ||
Ben Askren. | ||
They might do it now. | ||
There's the kid with the wine and a fucking smile. | ||
Look at his arms. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Sinewy. | ||
Steel. | ||
It's corded flesh. | ||
Hardened. | ||
The hard man. | ||
Do we have a bottle opener and glasses? | ||
It's about to get loose now. | ||
It's about to get loose. | ||
You thought dick talk was too much. | ||
Hey, what about Joey Diaz getting his fucking blue belt, right? | ||
Isn't that amazing? | ||
That's cool, man. | ||
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Dude. | |
That's so beautiful. | ||
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Dude. | |
Come on, man. | ||
That's amazing. | ||
So beautiful. | ||
He is so into jiu-jitsu. | ||
Loves it. | ||
It really did. | ||
It is saving his life. | ||
He's so into it. | ||
He talks about jujitsu every time we talk on the phone. | ||
He talks about how we did in class. | ||
He's training all the goddamn time. | ||
He goes in on Sundays and does jujitsu. | ||
He's so into it. | ||
And he's incredibly humble about it. | ||
Every time he talks about jujitsu, he says, listen, Eddie Bravo, I'm terrible. | ||
I'm terrible. | ||
But every day I'm getting a little bit better. | ||
Just a little bit better. | ||
But I'm terrible. | ||
I suck. | ||
But he's tapping people out. | ||
He's getting taps. | ||
Of course he is. | ||
He's passing the guard. | ||
He loves Twister side control. | ||
He gets the camora from Twister side control. | ||
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With Eddie Bravo, that Twister side control. | |
He said that to me once. | ||
I wasn't even sure he was being serious about it. | ||
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Joe Rogan, now I know why you like that Twister side control, dog. | |
Now I know why that's your spot. | ||
I can see you camping out there. | ||
Right, Joe Rogan? | ||
I get my hip on you. | ||
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I get my hip on you. | |
On the side. | ||
I'm turning towards your feet. | ||
I got my hands on your hips. | ||
Where the fuck are you going? | ||
Where the fuck are you going? | ||
Oh, man. | ||
He is so into jiu-jitsu. | ||
I love him. | ||
I love it. | ||
It's really... | ||
It's given him something to work towards, and it's given him an awesome way to do real rigorous exercise. | ||
Yeah, and get healthy, man. | ||
That's what you want. | ||
If that guy's your friend, you want to be healthy. | ||
Yeah, well, you also... | ||
You can't ever give Joey advice, you know? | ||
Joey's a strong man, and he's a proud man, and he's beautiful. | ||
This is just... | ||
He's the rarest of rare birds. | ||
That's what makes him who he is, though. | ||
There's certain guys like that, man. | ||
You don't want to change that for anything. | ||
You can't... | ||
You know, I've known... | ||
I mean, I've known Joey for a long time. | ||
You gotta just let Joey be Joey. | ||
But what he is is awesome, you know? | ||
Hell yeah. | ||
And I just love the fact that he's... | ||
He's gotten really into being healthy, really into jiu-jitsu, really into comedy, man. | ||
His comedy's killing it. | ||
He's traveling all over the country now, doing gigs everywhere. | ||
He's selling out everywhere. | ||
Joey's selling out like five shows before he even gets into town. | ||
He's destroying. | ||
Just destroying. | ||
His podcast is bigger than ever. | ||
Yeah, he's just... | ||
I'm so happy for that guy. | ||
I'm just so happy I know him. | ||
His jujitsu story of how he got into it is the most inspirational jujitsu story ever, man. | ||
There needs to be a documentary about him and how he got turned on to jujitsu and following him around, videotaping his training and all that. | ||
That's so inspirational, his story. | ||
Yeah. | ||
If you listen to that story and you don't want to do jujitsu, you need a psychiatric evaluation. | ||
This is a good fight, man. | ||
We're missing a good fight. | ||
Yeah, I agree, man. | ||
But, you know, kind of jujitsu has that effect on people. | ||
It's a really exciting, fun thing to do. | ||
What are you showing me there, buddy? | ||
Is that a Japanese necktie? | ||
I can't see. | ||
Yeah, it looks more like a darse. | ||
Let me see it again. | ||
Yeah, it looks like a guillotine. | ||
You gotta take it from the top. | ||
Go back, go back, go back. | ||
That's kind of like it. | ||
No, no. | ||
It's like a guillotine-type darse. | ||
Right. | ||
The body, what he's doing with his body is he's placing it in the exact same place as you would with a Japanese necktie. | ||
It's just his grip is different. | ||
Right. | ||
So it's like a Japanese necktie with a different grip, but it's similar. | ||
It's like a guillotine Japanese necktie. | ||
It's in between. | ||
And Jamie, for all the people that are listening, what was that fight that we were just watching and were just talking about? | ||
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Unless I'm retarded and I couldn't tell by that angle or something. | |
Maybe it was a Japanese necktie. | ||
Say it one more time, Jamie. | ||
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I'll just pull it up. | |
You can read them. | ||
We'll see it one more time anyway. | ||
It looks like a Japanese necktie to me. | ||
I mean, if you look at the placement of his left elbow, yeah. | ||
His left shoulder, though, is way down. | ||
See how far down his left shoulder is? | ||
And the head's perfect. | ||
The head's perfectly locked in. | ||
Go back. | ||
Go back. | ||
Here it is again. | ||
You're saying this is a Japanese necktie? | ||
It is. | ||
Wait a minute. | ||
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No. | |
No. | ||
It's close. | ||
It's like in between. | ||
In between a guillotine and a Japanese necktie. | ||
Yeah, he might have his own version of it. | ||
His grip doesn't look like Japanese. | ||
No, it's not quite the same, but it's still... | ||
The fact that you can see his hands in the front, the hands gotta stay in the back of the head. | ||
Yeah, but isn't it interesting though that there's like a lot of different ways to grip the guillotine, right? | ||
There's a lot of different ways to hold your hands, but they're all considered guillotines. | ||
But this choke, which is like pretty similar, like the head is trapped, it's twisted, left shoulder's down, hands are coming up like this, the neck is getting wrenched and cranked. | ||
It's getting wrenched and cranked in both positions, right? | ||
Japanese necktie has arm evolved because the guy's got that underhook on you. | ||
Say if I'm getting it, and he's got his underhook on the left side, my arm is overhooking his arm, and then that's going behind his head, and that's where I'm clamping down. | ||
I clamped down with a scissors grip, but that guy looked like he had something like this. | ||
It was almost like a gable grip, right? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I could be wrong, but that didn't look like a Japanese necktie, but I could be wrong. | ||
It was hard to tell. | ||
With the grip, that looked like an arm in guillotine. | ||
Well, whatever it was, that guy's neck was getting cranked, too. | ||
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Super cranked. | |
It wasn't just the choke. | ||
It was a neck crank. | ||
Real bad, trapped in the chest. | ||
Let me see it one more time. | ||
Let me see it one more time. | ||
It's super similar. | ||
Because look at his right elbow. | ||
If he's doing a Japanese necktie, his right elbow should be T-Rexed here. | ||
But it looked like he was like that. | ||
Yeah, maybe he just has a wide open way of doing it. | ||
Can we see it again, Jamie? | ||
Maybe it's just not the best way to do it. | ||
Come on, motherfucker. | ||
Hurry. | ||
Jamie. | ||
The fuck, dude? | ||
How come you don't want to show it to him? | ||
Joe, talk to him. | ||
Come on, Jamie. | ||
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Don't do this. | |
He's a good guy. | ||
Don't do this, man. | ||
It's like he gets passionate about his work. | ||
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Come on, man. | |
This is important, Jamie. | ||
Is Callen stomping on the grapes or something? | ||
Callen's coming. | ||
Right now he's coming in my sink. | ||
He went in there and got blueberries and cheese. | ||
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You are so strange. | |
We're going to start with a light barbaresco. | ||
I'm wrong about that though. | ||
The right elbow wouldn't be T-Rex because it couldn't be because you have the overhook. | ||
There's no way it could be. | ||
Can't be T-Rex because he's got the overhook. | ||
So it is a Japanese necktile. | ||
Fuck, it's so hard to tell. | ||
But he's got the left shoulder down, right? | ||
Which is where you wouldn't be necessarily there in a darse. | ||
You would want the right shoulder down, right? | ||
Correct. | ||
So the way he's doing it is totally a Japanese necktie. | ||
Yeah, I give you that, Joe. | ||
Because the head's trapped the exact same way you trap the head. | ||
The neck is cranked in the exact same direction. | ||
And also, he's got the leg tied up, which I like. | ||
I like how he did it, too. | ||
How he tied up the near side leg. | ||
It's for sure not a darts because his hips and his right shoulder would be down. | ||
I've always wondered. | ||
Gentlemen. | ||
Gentlemen. | ||
To fight companions. | ||
To fight companions. | ||
That actually answered a question that I had. | ||
I'm looking at it right now, and I was always like, what's the best leg to tie up? | ||
Because I would always tie up whatever leg I could. | ||
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It doesn't matter. | |
I always said that, but if you look at that, if he ties up the left leg, he doesn't have that, he can't move with that right leg. | ||
Excuse me, if he ties up the right leg the way he's got it like there, that other leg's not helping him as much. | ||
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Correct. | |
But if he ties up the other leg, then he can get that right leg under him and he can use it to manipulate his base more. | ||
Even more pressure. | ||
His problem here is he immediately should have stomped on dude's right thigh with his left foot. | ||
I don't think he would matter there. | ||
And that's how you escape. | ||
You get your leg out and spin. | ||
If you can't get that leg free, you're fucked. | ||
I know. | ||
Look how he has his legs tied up. | ||
He's got to kick his leg free. | ||
He's got to kick it free or you're done. | ||
That's the first thing you've got to do. | ||
The first thing. | ||
So he would kick out the right leg. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Push it away. | ||
The leg that's caught, use your free leg. | ||
It's just like a leg lock. | ||
Someone's attacking that leg, you kick it free. | ||
Well, here's a question. | ||
Here's a real good question. | ||
If you're in a position like that or somewhere similar where you have access to kick the knee, can you kick someone's knee on the ground when you're grappling with it? | ||
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Yes. | |
And if so, yeah. | ||
100%. | ||
How come no one's ever done that? | ||
No one's, like, attacked the knee. | ||
Like, no one's ever been in a position, like, maybe they have side control or something like that, and they drop axe kicks down on someone's knee. | ||
Just attack their knee from there. | ||
I'd have to see it, but... | ||
It feels like you should be able to definitely attack the thighs. | ||
You're saying in a grappling tournament? | ||
Yeah, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, in a grappling position. | ||
You're saying MMA. | ||
Like, say if someone has someone in, like, a... | ||
But does he ever see it? | ||
No. | ||
Maybe it'll fuck up your balance and you'll lose position. | ||
I've seen some of it. | ||
But in that guy, in that situation, where that guy is getting choked, if he could have kicked at the knee itself, this isn't a good position for it. | ||
No, he's not going to do shit there. | ||
He's got to kick that leg free. | ||
He's got to kick that leg free and get flat on your back. | ||
Is there ever a time where you can kick someone's legs when you're holding them down? | ||
There's no rule. | ||
In Pride, a good combo would be, if you get them out, bop bop bop, stand up, stomp. | ||
And then walk away. | ||
He did that to Dan Henderson. | ||
Bop bop bop on the mountain and you stand up, boom. | ||
That's something you'd have to practice. | ||
That's a combo. | ||
That cheese is a combo. | ||
And it's an effective move. | ||
It's weird. | ||
It's weird what effective moves are legal and what are not legal. | ||
One of the most underutilized kicks, in my opinion, are those hicks in those leg curl kicks while you have someone's back. | ||
That's legal now. | ||
It's legal. | ||
It was always legal. | ||
No, it wasn't. | ||
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Why? | |
It was attacks to the kidney. | ||
They were considered attacks to the kidney. | ||
It's one of the new revisions in this... | ||
No, no, I'm not talking about from Full Guard. | ||
I'm not talking about that. | ||
Oh, you're talking about from Backmount. | ||
You have the guy's back. | ||
Remember what Hickson was doing to Zulu? | ||
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
Remember those kicks? | ||
To the abdomen. | ||
To the abdomen. | ||
Why aren't people doing that? | ||
Who was the last guy that did that? | ||
I feel like Cole Miller did that. | ||
That should be normal shit. | ||
Did Cole Miller do that in a fight? | ||
And then the guys defend it and then he comes up and chokes. | ||
Exactly! | ||
That's how you set up the chokes. | ||
Nobody does that. | ||
It's true. | ||
Well now at least guys can attack when they're on their back, they can kidney kick. | ||
And it makes someone want to... | ||
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In full guard. | |
Yes, in full guard. | ||
Oh, beautiful. | ||
I'm happy. | ||
Hey, they're making progress. | ||
That's a very good move. | ||
I'm very shocked. | ||
So when somebody's in your guard, you can do kidney kicks? | ||
You can kidney kick them, yes. | ||
Wow. | ||
Yeah, that's huge. | ||
Gotta protect the kidneys. | ||
Well, you're not going to be able to just lay there. | ||
It's another offensive option for the grappler. | ||
So if you're in a full guard position and someone has good kicks, like say if you get some Anderson Silva type character who has good kicks, he can fuck your back up, man. | ||
And when you do get free, you break free, you could be all bunched up and tightened up just from eating those heel kicks to the kidneys. | ||
Isn't there danger there that you can actually create, you can cause internal bleeding that'll mess with them later on? | ||
Yeah, this is going to be a lot of internal bleeding, son. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Really? | ||
You're in a cage fight. | ||
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I don't think you're too weird. | |
Yes. | ||
Oh, man, though. | ||
We've got to stop the kidney injuries. | ||
Listen, man, how can you say you can stop kidney injuries, but you won't stop a spinning back kick to the ribs? | ||
Yeah, but that's one kick. | ||
I feel like it's a constant difference. | ||
Listen, man, if someone, like some elite guy, like a Wonderboy, spinning back kicks you in the ribs... | ||
Yeah, you're going to be... | ||
Jesus Christ, dude. | ||
If Overeem kicks you in the ribs... | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Ask Brock how that works. | ||
You're going to shit your pants. | ||
Dude, Overeem, that left round kick to the ribs that he landed on Brock before he put him away. | ||
Fuck you. | ||
Fuck all that. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Those giant thighs and that enormous ass. | ||
I'd rather get kicked in the dick. | ||
Whose ass? | ||
Overeem. | ||
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Oh. | |
And Overeem, when he fought Brock, was Overeem, too. | ||
That was when he was at his biggest. | ||
Did you notice when people are going to take body shots like that, there's a pause? | ||
They're like, they go, and then they fall. | ||
They say, I'm not sure, but they say that's because your liver gets lifted up, and when it falls back down, somebody told me that, that's why there's that pause. | ||
So you watch guys who get hit? | ||
Oh my God. | ||
So if you guys get watched, if you watch anybody who takes, there's a pause. | ||
You know who used to train to hit like that and fall down? | ||
Liotta Machida. | ||
He used to train as if he got hit in the body and practice just falling down to his back. | ||
Whoa. | ||
Yeah. | ||
First guy I've ever seen do it. | ||
Smart. | ||
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What a samurai. | |
Because one of his buddies, I forget who it was, lost a fight by getting a body shot. | ||
And he just kind of crumbled and went to the ground. | ||
And Leo was like, no, we do this all the time. | ||
And then showed him that he kept doing reps, like getting hit, balling up into guard and bringing the guy down into your guard to give you time. | ||
Is he suspended right now? | ||
Lieto? | ||
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Yeah. | |
I'm not sure I think so. | ||
I know he just opened up a gym in California. | ||
But something happened. | ||
Yes. | ||
He tested positive for something. | ||
Dan Anderson, right? | ||
And he tested positive? | ||
What was it for? | ||
Jamie, see if you can find that out. | ||
That fucking card, though. | ||
There's your card of the year. | ||
As far as number-wise, pay-per-view number-wise. | ||
You think the match-ups get better? | ||
The cards get better now? | ||
Because you get new blood in there. | ||
I bet the new owners want to go, let's fucking... | ||
What new blood? | ||
None of that's new blood, though, right there. | ||
What new blood, brother? | ||
The power, the new blood. | ||
The executive power is all new blood. | ||
Oh, you mean the suits? | ||
They might say, hey, let's fucking make... | ||
Let's come in with some fire and blow up these cards. | ||
Let's just get crazy with it. | ||
No, I think Joe Silva... | ||
Not much you can do. | ||
You need a guy who loves fighting and knows fighting. | ||
Usually... | ||
Those suits don't know fighting. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Corporate... | ||
Big corporations that get involved doesn't necessarily mean... | ||
That's why Dana's staying on board. | ||
You know, he's a fucking genius with fighting. | ||
So is Joe Silva. | ||
You can't get rid of those guys and have suits who, you know... | ||
You can never... | ||
It would never work. | ||
You could never have a suit run the company either. | ||
You need Dana. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But they could say, hey, listen, we'd like to see... | ||
The company has gotten to a crazy place. | ||
He knows. | ||
You don't have to be a genius to come up with dream matchups. | ||
This is going to be an interesting fight. | ||
You could be an average fan. | ||
This is your boy, right? | ||
Correct. | ||
Zach Cummings, he's fighting this Ponzinubio guy who's a beast. | ||
Zach Cummings is a welterweight. | ||
That is crazy. | ||
That is such a big dude. | ||
Is he really? | ||
Oh, yeah, man. | ||
Like, he's a big fella. | ||
I mean, he's got to walk around well over 200 pounds. | ||
I think he's an underdog in this fight. | ||
Ponzinobio's no joke, man. | ||
No joke. | ||
This fucking cheese, Cal, and you outdid yourself. | ||
I know. | ||
And this is a nice Barbaresco. | ||
This is 2008. It's like a meal, gentlemen. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Yeah, Ponzinobio's a scary guy. | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
Serious knockout striker. | ||
Beast of a guy. | ||
Look at those ears, too. | ||
Let's pin those ears back. | ||
Jesus. | ||
Handsome guy, but gee whiz. | ||
Who's been headlocking him? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Everybody? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's such a crazy look. | ||
Even? | ||
Yeah, it's a tough fight. | ||
Tough fight to call. | ||
What do we need to talk about? | ||
We need to talk about the Tyron Woodley fight. | ||
I'll tell you what I do with Woodley. | ||
If I'm Scrooge McDuck, if I'm Dana, this is what you do. | ||
So the loyal purists of the sport are going to say, Wonderboy's next. | ||
We can't do that because sell that pay-per-view, you get 300 buys. | ||
That ain't happening. | ||
Neither one's a big draw. | ||
It sucks to say. | ||
I love both those guys. | ||
Let's just be real here. | ||
So you do the GSB fight to make Woodley a star so he can be a pay-per-view headliner. | ||
Because he's not a headliner right now. | ||
Let's get more realistic. | ||
If GSP actually wants to fight... | ||
Which he does. | ||
Is that true? | ||
He asked for the fight. | ||
If he actually wants to fight, I feel like GSP gets a free pass. | ||
He gets a free pass right to the front. | ||
You mean like Lesnar? | ||
No! | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Or he can piss hot? | ||
No, no, no, no, no. | ||
What do you mean free? | ||
I mean, you've got to let him fight for the title. | ||
He's George goddamn St. Pierre. | ||
He stepped away as the champion. | ||
He's only fighting for title. | ||
That's what I feel. | ||
So the question is, does he fight now, and does he fight Tyron, or does he fight the winner of Tyron vs. | ||
Wonderboy? | ||
Or does Wonderboy get paid, or rather, does Tyron get paid, and he fights Nick Diaz? | ||
Will he get paid more if he fights Nick Diaz, do you think? | ||
Listen, if I was Tyron Woodley, I'd be asking for the Nick Diaz fight. | ||
That's what he's doing. | ||
Why? | ||
He wants GSP or Nick Diaz. | ||
He doesn't want Wonderboy. | ||
I want money. | ||
You know how much stoner money is out there rooting on Nick Diaz? | ||
I don't think the UFC maybe even realizes what they have in Nick Diaz. | ||
I think they do. | ||
Because they put up with this shit. | ||
I love Nick Diaz. | ||
They should be putting up with everything and more. | ||
I agree. | ||
He's the best. | ||
All this flying him to press conferences. | ||
Give him a pass. | ||
Give him a pass on that. | ||
What is he going to say that's going to be... | ||
You're just going to annoy him. | ||
Just let him train. | ||
Let him train. | ||
We all know what Nick Diaz is capable of. | ||
Bro, you know what's scary? | ||
It's how much press Nate Diaz has been. | ||
I love it. | ||
He's been doing a lot, a lot of press. | ||
He's been doing a lot of press. | ||
He's on that Conor McGregor press tour right now. | ||
He is. | ||
He bashes Wonderboy Thompson and says he should be able to pick his next opponent. | ||
Well... | ||
As Dana White, if we want entertainment and you want numbers, you do GSP or Nick Diaz. | ||
100%. | ||
If you're a purist of the sport, you do Wanderboy. | ||
I agree. | ||
I agree 100%. | ||
But the bottom line is, Tyron Woodley is the fucking champion. | ||
When you're the champion, you can say all the crazy shit you want. | ||
I should be able to pick my opponent. | ||
I want to get the money. | ||
Yes! | ||
Why not? | ||
He's the fucking champ! | ||
You're fighting Wonderboy on fucking Fox Sports one year on a Wednesday night and you're going to shut your fucking mouth. | ||
No, no, you can't say that. | ||
That's exactly what they can do. | ||
On the same card, GSP versus Nick Diaz and Woodley versus Wonderboy. | ||
Same card. | ||
Nah, fuck that because you're killing two birds with one storm. | ||
No, no, you don't want GSP versus Nick Diaz. | ||
You can't do that. | ||
Super cards, man. | ||
Super cards. | ||
No. | ||
No super cards? | ||
No. | ||
Spread it out. | ||
Do you know that John Donaher made a post recently saying that GSP, he put it on Instagram, saying that GSP's camp for the Nick Diaz fight was one of the best camps he ever had. | ||
Came out of it injury-free, super healthy, and then the night before the fight drank some watermelon juice that had been sitting out for too long and got deathly ill. | ||
Was throwing up all night. | ||
What kind of watermelon juice was he drinking? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Probably something crazy. | ||
And so he came in that fight. | ||
He came in that fight depleted. | ||
And they devised a strategy of conserving his energy and not engaging too much. | ||
Wow. | ||
And when did time his takedown? | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
And then when they came in to see the wraps, he was talking about they wrapped GSP's hands and the Diaz camp wanted to see them wrap his hands. | ||
So they had to come in, and then he said that George had to, like, imitate this sense of vitality, you know? | ||
Because he was, like, so depleted. | ||
He had to, like, pretend. | ||
He feels fucking great. | ||
I feel fucking great. | ||
I'm ready to go kick some ass. | ||
You know? | ||
He had to, like, pump it up. | ||
And then when they left, he was like, oh my god. | ||
Do I have to do this shit myself again? | ||
But didn't Nick Diaz say that someone drugged him in that fight? | ||
Yeah, he said that too. | ||
Could you imagine if someone drugged both of them, if that's what was going on? | ||
They didn't even know it, but somebody drugged both guys. | ||
Some asshole who was like, maybe two guys were gamblers. | ||
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Is that possible? | |
Did someone drug them? | ||
GAMBLERS, bro! | ||
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Fuck yeah! | |
Gamblers! | ||
Let me tell you something, man. | ||
If you're around some shady, degenerate gamblers, and they put some money on you, and they see Eddie Bravo out for the night in the town, and they know that you're supposed to be fighting someone the next day, and they can drug you and jack the fight, If you read the book about, there's a book written by David Remnick about the fight between Muhammad Ali and Sonny Liston. | ||
And in round, I think, seven, they put something on Sonny Liston's gloves that blinded him. | ||
And he said, I can't see, I can't see. | ||
And I think it was Dundee who said... | ||
Kept moving, just move and box. | ||
Yeah, just keep moving and keep boxing. | ||
And it was a huge turning point. | ||
He said, they put something on the gloves. | ||
Yep, yeah. | ||
And on one. | ||
Some shady shit. | ||
They did some shady shit, too. | ||
Like when he fought Henry Cooper. | ||
I think that's a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. | ||
He wouldn't let anybody touch his water bottle because they thought they were going to poison him, so he had his water bottle wrapped. | ||
That sounds like conspiracy theory shit. | ||
He wrapped tape around his water bottle. | ||
You don't believe that shit, but you believe Tower 7? | ||
If you watch the Sonny Liston fight, it's clear. | ||
You hear him say it in the corner. | ||
I've watched the fight. | ||
It's an interesting one, too, because... | ||
Mike Tyson's old manager was the narrator for the fight. | ||
You know Mike Tyson's old manager? | ||
He had the Jewish guy that died who was his confidant. | ||
It was... | ||
God damn it. | ||
There was a couple different guys that handled Mike Tyson after... | ||
Something Jacobs? | ||
The black Jewish guy? | ||
No, he's a white guy. | ||
It was something... | ||
Goddammit. | ||
It was Kevin Rooney, something Jacobs, and that was like the whole crew that was left over. | ||
Anyway, this guy was the narrator for those old fights because they didn't really have audio for them that was correct. | ||
But a more interesting example is when Ali's camp cheated, when Henry Cooper caught him with a left hook. | ||
Henry Cooper caught him with a left hook and sat him down. | ||
Henry Cooper was this badass British heavyweight boxer back in the day. | ||
And when Muhammad Ali was still Cassius Clay... | ||
Henry Cooper cracked him, and he went down, and when he went back to the corner, he had no idea what the fuck was going on. | ||
He was out on his feet. | ||
So Angelo Dundee took a razor blade to his gloves, cut his gloves open. | ||
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Damn! | |
So we gotta change the gloves. | ||
The gloves are cut. | ||
Tight move. | ||
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Smart. | |
Smart dude. | ||
That's that ATT shit. | ||
Smart dude. | ||
Back then. | ||
So Ali has the chance to recover. | ||
Several minutes go by. | ||
They change the gloves. | ||
They re-tie him up. | ||
They re-tape him. | ||
Several minutes go by. | ||
Brilliant. | ||
And then he fucks Henry Cooper up, gets him cut, and winds up stopping him on cuts. | ||
Shit, it worked. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You want to see it? | ||
See, watch Henry Cooper drops Muhammad Ali. | ||
Because, I mean, dude, he got ja-ropped. | ||
That's very similar to your boy, Yoel, in the corner, buying time. | ||
Yes, that Tim Kennedy fight. | ||
Tim Kennedy should have gotten the win. | ||
Stoolgate. | ||
Tim Kennedy should have gotten the win because he was not willing to get off his stool and fight at the end of the round. | ||
He knew it was the end of the buzzer. | ||
When are we going to see him fight Tim Kennedy, please? | ||
Well, what fucked up Tim Kennedy after that fight is that... | ||
Those are the gloves? | ||
That's the actual gloves that was split? | ||
They cut the shit out of them. | ||
Is there a video of him cutting it? | ||
They, like, covered each other up. | ||
And they weren't doing videos back then. | ||
They had a film of the fight. | ||
And then, you know, there was probably only one camera. | ||
So you're saying there's no concrete evidence? | ||
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Well... | |
That glove, son. | ||
The gloves are cut up. | ||
I mean, they have the gloves. | ||
Maybe it happened naturally. | ||
It could be. | ||
It could be like... | ||
Eddie, you're losing Eddie. | ||
Eddie, the biggest conspiracy theorist, and he's just... | ||
I thought he was going to be in on this. | ||
You guys are the biggest skeptics, and you guys didn't believe in this shit. | ||
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Watch this. | |
Watch this. | ||
Watch this left hook. | ||
Check it out right here. | ||
Right here. | ||
Against the rope. | ||
Boom, bitch! | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
I've never seen him get dropped like that. | ||
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
Dude, he got fucked up. | ||
Look at him. | ||
And that's the end of the round. | ||
The very end of the round. | ||
He gets up, and he sits down. | ||
So, I mean, there is like one second before... | ||
Look at this. | ||
Check this left hook. | ||
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Boom! | |
That shit is perfect, too. | ||
That British power, son. | ||
Is there a video of his corner the whole minute? | ||
Can we see that? | ||
I don't know. | ||
That's a good question. | ||
Oh, you can see him in front of him, though. | ||
They put smelling salts, too. | ||
That was the other thing they used to do. | ||
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You ever use those? | |
They used to use smelling salts. | ||
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Do you ever use those? | |
Do you believe that Richard Pryor... | ||
Oh, we're missing your boy Zach Cummins and Ponzinobio throwing diggity-diggity down. | ||
Hey, what about that Aaron Pryor story with the cocaine and all that shit? | ||
Yeah, that's supposed to be legit. | ||
Is that legit? | ||
It's supposed to be legit, but I never heard of liquid cocaine being drank like that. | ||
It could have been some other stimulant. | ||
It doesn't have to have been. | ||
But everybody was like, it's cocaine, it's cocaine. | ||
Maybe it was speed. | ||
It could have easily been speed. | ||
I think you're dead right. | ||
You think it's true? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Either way, you're partying. | ||
That guy, Panama Lewis, was busted for a bunch of different things. | ||
And one of them was, he had this fight between Billy Collins, I think it was Billy Collins Jr. was his name, and the other guy was Louis Resto. | ||
And they took Louis Resto's padding out of his gloves. | ||
And when he fought this kid, I think it was Billy Collins Jr. I think that was his name. | ||
James Heath, if that's correct. | ||
Louis Resto. | ||
It's a Louis Resto glove controversy. | ||
So anyway, Panama Lewis was the guy who did that, too. | ||
He was involved in that. | ||
He was banned from boxing after that. | ||
You're fucking right he was. | ||
He's a cheater. | ||
He had went through that thing with Aaron Pryor, and then he went through this new one. | ||
But who knows what the fuck was in that bottle? | ||
It could have been anything. | ||
It could have been a stimulant, but it could have been some sort of fucking sport drink. | ||
It could have been something with some sort of nutritional supplement in it that maybe is illegal now, wasn't illegal then. | ||
Who the fuck knows? | ||
I don't know what he put in there. | ||
I think they might have used speed a lot. | ||
I know Andre Agustin is... | ||
And his autobiography talks about how his dad used to give him speed when he was a kid. | ||
And like in the middle, because you know, those matches last four or five, they're five matches. | ||
It's a long time, four hours, or whatever it was. | ||
And he would give his son and his brothers, he'd be like, here you go, take this. | ||
And he'd be like, pat me up. | ||
Those little fuckers went nuts on it. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
Speed was a huge thing in baseball as well. | ||
A lot of guys were taking speed and even Adderall. | ||
It's always been... | ||
Adderall's still big. | ||
It was always big in medical school. | ||
Medical school was always big. | ||
It was always big among fighter pilots. | ||
Louis Resto, and who was the other gentleman's name? | ||
Billy Collins? | ||
Was it Collins? | ||
I don't see the name. | ||
There's a documentary about it called Assault in the Ring. | ||
Have you used Adderall? | ||
No, I have not. | ||
You haven't used it either? | ||
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No, no. | |
Billy Collins Jr., yes, I was right. | ||
Adderall's good stuff? | ||
I did it once in college, but for some final, I write this paper. | ||
I took it, and dude, I was a chatty Cathy. | ||
I got nothing done. | ||
Someone walked by like, hey, what are you doing? | ||
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What are you doing? | |
Nothing fucking, for six hours just talking. | ||
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Straight. | |
You boy, Zach Cummings just landed a hard body kick. | ||
Dude, I haven't watched one round of any of these guys. | ||
These guys are welterweights? | ||
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Yeah. | |
That's crazy. | ||
They're giants. | ||
Cummings is a big boy. | ||
How big is he, Brendan? | ||
6'1"? | ||
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Whoa! | |
Wheel kick. | ||
That's a wheel kick. | ||
Definitely looks like it. | ||
Oh, we've got a clip in the right hand. | ||
Here we go. | ||
Oh, he likes it. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Nice takedown. | ||
Ah, good recovery. | ||
Ponsonobio, right back up. | ||
Ooh, just missed with the hook of death. | ||
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They're both listed at six foot. | |
Yeah. | ||
Joe, you want one of these berries to knock your socks off? | ||
No, I'm good. | ||
I mean, they're fucked. | ||
I've been balls deep in berries and shoes right now. | ||
It might be the best blackberries I've ever tried. | ||
Oh, big kick to the body by Cummings at the end of the round. | ||
Jason Statham. | ||
This is so silly. | ||
Jason Statham is reviving his Charles Bronson character. | ||
That guy would fuck both of you up. | ||
Hey, man. | ||
Easy. | ||
Olympic athlete. | ||
He was an Olympic diver. | ||
That's a big deal, actually. | ||
Sure. | ||
Jessica Alba, back. | ||
Tommy Lee Jones, a bad guy. | ||
Oh, he looks ridiculous. | ||
Yeah, with a goatee. | ||
He looks ridiculous. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
The mechanic, resurrected. | ||
He had those same glasses. | ||
He looks ridiculous. | ||
Look, if they made that movie good, you'd be upset. | ||
Yeah. | ||
If that was a really good movie with an awesome plot, you'd be pissed. | ||
That's kind of hilarious. | ||
With, like, depth and you had to wait for character development. | ||
Where's the actions? | ||
Is somebody gonna get shot? | ||
What the fuck? | ||
I've been 20 minutes into this goddamn movie. | ||
If they took the guy that made Ex Machina and they made him direct the new mechanic, you'd be like, what the fuck is going on? | ||
Who wrote this? | ||
Dude, you know what movie you were wrong about? | ||
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What? | |
That fucking Cloverfield. | ||
How dare you? | ||
You didn't like that? | ||
No! | ||
The ending... | ||
Sucked, right? | ||
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Yes! | |
I thought it was crazy. | ||
I thought it was amazing until the ending, right? | ||
The ending was like, what the fuck? | ||
But meanwhile, I'm in. | ||
I'll take both endings. | ||
Goddammit! | ||
I like it. | ||
I like the ending of the first one. | ||
I like the ending of the second one. | ||
You like a good sci-fi movie, right? | ||
I wrote stupid fucking shit. | ||
I love Bigfoot. | ||
I wrote this tweet the other day. | ||
It was half joking, but not even half. | ||
It was at least 2% of my thoughts every day are secretly hoping that Bigfoot's real. | ||
I'm retarded, man. | ||
UFOs, Bigfoot, all that shit. | ||
We all do have loopy, like, we have thoughts. | ||
Like, you'll have a loop that you think about all the time, you know what I mean? | ||
Like, you come back to the same theme. | ||
I'll have arguments in my head with people that it never happens. | ||
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It's weird. | |
I have a really weird thing that I think about every day. | ||
Wait a minute, what? | ||
You get arguments with people and you figure out an argument. | ||
Yeah, I'm like, oh really? | ||
We talk about it all the time. | ||
Like with my agent too. | ||
Oh no! | ||
And then when I talk to them, it goes nothing how I thought it was going to go. | ||
That's so crazy. | ||
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You're like betrayed. | |
I'm still confused. | ||
We were talking about this. | ||
Like if you're betrayed. | ||
You have an argument? | ||
I'll have an argument. | ||
Like with a buddy, I know he's going to say something. | ||
So in my head, I'm like, yeah, he's going to say this. | ||
I'm going to do this. | ||
And I think he's going to say this. | ||
Then when I see him, he goes, nothing like that. | ||
No. | ||
He's like, yeah, cool, man. | ||
He's all, yeah, cool, man. | ||
What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
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Really? | |
You're planning an argument, and then it doesn't go the way you planned? | ||
Yeah, it goes nothing like I planned. | ||
What kind of arguments do you plan? | ||
I have hypothetical conversations with important people in my life, and then when I see them, it goes nothing like that. | ||
But you have hypothetical adversarial conversations about important people. | ||
It's weird. | ||
You're ready for the conversation, you're ready for the debate, and you're like, fuck, he crushes you? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
It means it becomes all friendly. | ||
It doesn't get adversarial at all. | ||
Yeah, he's like, what's up, bro? | ||
I'm like, hey, how's it going? | ||
That's it. | ||
I do the exact same thing. | ||
Man, I'm still confused. | ||
And what I also do is... | ||
What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
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It's weird. | |
He's crazy. | ||
He's what he's telling you. | ||
What I do is... | ||
If somebody, like, did something that I was like, oh, that's kind of mean, or whatever, then I'll extrapolate, and I'll be like, what if he was that way all the time? | ||
And then what if he shoved me? | ||
And then what if he called me a bitch? | ||
And then I'll just keep going. | ||
Before I know it, I'm having the same exact thing. | ||
I'm having a verbal argument in my car. | ||
I have done that. | ||
Yeah, you're right. | ||
Now I get you. | ||
He explained it better. | ||
You're thinking, okay, this motherfucker's going to come at me with this, and he's going to come at me with that. | ||
Well, I got this ready for him, and I got that ready for him. | ||
And you're like practicing this shit. | ||
No, I go through the whole thing. | ||
Yeah, I do that. | ||
I think everybody does that. | ||
I do something even more ridiculous. | ||
I daily have a fantasy that I live in a part of the world where gangs are running everything and they're terrorizing my village or my town. | ||
That's Los Angeles, right? | ||
Yep. | ||
And what I do then is I secretly, I push a cart, a food cart. | ||
I'm humble, but I have a small gun with a silencer and I kill all the bad guys quietly. | ||
And they're like, who the fuck is killing us, man? | ||
What the fuck is going on? | ||
And I'm like, would you like another hot dog? | ||
Is this the plot of the professional? | ||
Would you like some... | ||
Yeah, that's literally how I... What the fuck? | ||
I think about how I protect myself. | ||
You're totally sane, all of you. | ||
I feel like Eddie Bravo died. | ||
Well, that got weird. | ||
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That got... | |
That got weird. | ||
Eddie Bravo died. | ||
I'm sorry, guys. | ||
You know what? | ||
I have thought something similar. | ||
What the fuck? | ||
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I thought... | |
No, this isn't what I'm talking about. | ||
What if you could figure out how long it takes to kill someone with a choke and then how long it takes to put them in a vegetative state permanently? | ||
Well, you can do that. | ||
And you master that. | ||
That's interesting. | ||
So like anybody, like you're like a vigilante. | ||
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Yes. | |
And anybody who deserves to be a vegetable, you're not going to kill them. | ||
Child molesters. | ||
You're just going to kill them and you have a timer, you have 45 seconds, you let them go and they're a vegetable. | ||
You didn't kill them. | ||
That's genius, dude. | ||
You didn't kill them, but they're like... | ||
Hold on. | ||
I hold the timer. | ||
I hold the timer. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
One by one you just turn. | ||
There's like this epidemic of vegetables. | ||
That's amazing. | ||
It's like a vigilante vegetable maker. | ||
But then there's a guy that you didn't hold that choke long enough and it wasn't lined up right. | ||
And he's all like... | ||
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Fuck! | |
You gotta put him in another arm triangle! | ||
You're like, oh shit! | ||
So you change it to an arm triangle and you fucking, oh, I need 15 more seconds. | ||
Fuck, the cops are showing up. | ||
Goddamn! | ||
And then you let him go. | ||
So basically, you guys want to be like fake superheroes. | ||
He's a vigilante. | ||
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That's what it is. | |
You're gonna be superheroes. | ||
There's a sick play. | ||
There's a sick play called the Toyer. | ||
It's called Veggies. | ||
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That's the end of the movie. | |
There's like an epidemic of vegetables. | ||
Like there's vegetables everywhere and they're like... | ||
Detectives are just like... | ||
But he figures out they're all bad guys. | ||
They're all bad guys. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
All the vegetables... | ||
Would I go to jail for holding the tire? | ||
It's like Dexter. | ||
It's like a jiu-jitsu Dexter. | ||
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Yes. | |
Eddie, do you remember that conversation we had once about guys getting hit so hard that it turns them gay? | ||
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That's ridiculous. | |
You and I went off for at least an hour like children about how incredible it would be if dudes had to get revenge because a guy turned them gay and they showed up for the next fight with a parasol and pink clothes on, holding a handbag. | ||
He had them in the sand and then fucked them. | ||
It just, someone knocked him out so bad that they turned gay, and that it was a possibility. | ||
Like, you know how you can get CTE? Yeah. | ||
Like, the idea is, like, imagine, and they were like, what if it was like a thing? | ||
What if it was a thing like, like, there was a keep you from breeding if you got your ass kicked? | ||
Like in the wolves population, the alphas and the betas duke it out, the beta gets kicked out of the crew if he gets his ass kicked, right? | ||
Right, yeah. | ||
Right? | ||
Maybe it would be something like that, where two guys duke it out, one guy beats your ass, he turns you gay. | ||
Every time. | ||
How much more would the stakes be every time you lost? | ||
No one's fighting anybody. | ||
We were talking about how much... | ||
Do you remember the conversation? | ||
I forgot. | ||
We were so high. | ||
We were like, how much more dangerous would fighting be if you lost, you turned gay? | ||
Oh, people would carry helmets with us. | ||
If someone KO'd you, if you became gay. | ||
Oh, Wolverine just turned everyone gay. | ||
He's gay, too. | ||
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That's true. | |
He's been knocked out more than anyone. | ||
You know fighters that are like starting to slur their words and you start seeing signs of like the fucking... | ||
Makeup. | ||
Like they're going full zombie. | ||
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Yeah, but you'd see signs of them turning gay, but they're trying to hide it. | |
You know what I mean? | ||
They start slowly with like wooden beads and tight-fitting shirts. | ||
They start wearing shirts like the one I'm wearing. | ||
Yeah, you gotta sit them down and have that Brendan Schaub talking or you gotta stop. | ||
Look what you're doing. | ||
You're looking at my dick all day. | ||
It would start like this. | ||
You gotta start looking for alternative careers, man. | ||
You're looking at my dick every time we hang out. | ||
I think it would be more subtle. | ||
It'd be more subtle. | ||
It'd be more subtle. | ||
You'd be like, I think Wolverine is plucking his eyebrows. | ||
Do you notice that? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's like he's contouring you. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Is he wearing cologne? | ||
Did he put those ice ice baby shaves in him? | ||
Those fucking beautiful vanilla ice slices. | ||
Did he get a facial? | ||
What's going on with him? | ||
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Dun, dun, dun. | |
He keeps smiling at me. | ||
We'd all be fucked up over and turn gay. | ||
He's taking too many shots. | ||
It's clear. | ||
But maybe you have to get a win back to get your heterosexual back. | ||
This is the worst idea. | ||
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So you can choose. | |
You can choose to either... | ||
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Every time you knock someone out, it's like you get a... | |
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, two of us in this conversation are almost 50. And how old are you now, Eddie? | ||
29. There you go. | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
Yeah, we should definitely be more grown up by now. | ||
I think so, but you know, I keep waiting. | ||
The crazy thing is I'm fucking 46. I'm an old motherfucker. | ||
50 is right there. | ||
I have a kid. | ||
I'm sitting there at the fucking breakfast table with my son and my wife, and I feel like I'm 19. I feel like I'm acting in this. | ||
I feel like a little kid, but I'm 46. I'm old as shit. | ||
Yeah, I don't feel like a grown-up. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
Growing up on TV, you see that guy reading the newspaper and he's got his kids and he's only 38, like 5. Well, you could be that guy if you want. | ||
And I'm way older than that motherfucker that's in my head. | ||
But how would you define... | ||
And I feel like a little kid raising a kid. | ||
I feel like a kid raising a kid. | ||
It's so weird. | ||
How would you define what an adult is? | ||
Right? | ||
So here he goes. | ||
No, but I mean... | ||
Hey, here's one. | ||
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Someone that doesn't lose their wallet at 49. Goddammit. | |
But you're supposed to be like, how would he define, like, well, now I'm an adult. | ||
Well, I guess that would mean what? | ||
That I have people I'm responsible for? | ||
That I make my own money? | ||
You're not dependent on your parents? | ||
Yeah. | ||
You have your own pills. | ||
But you depend on other people, right? | ||
Not really. | ||
In a way, like, just, well, yeah, you're right. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
I don't know. | ||
It's a boring conversation. | ||
All right, cheers, boys. | ||
Dude. | ||
Cheers to not getting knocked out training games. | ||
Hey, that's a huge glass you just poured yourself. | ||
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You poured this. | |
What is it, Kool-Aid? | ||
Am I going crazy? | ||
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No, you did. | |
No. | ||
It's these fucking voices, man. | ||
Hey, slow down, dude. | ||
You got a child now. | ||
How is fatherhood, man? | ||
Who's this so far? | ||
Isn't it amazing? | ||
Yeah, it's the best, man. | ||
Dude. | ||
Well, like, the first couple months, like, eh, he needs his mom. | ||
It's whatever. | ||
He doesn't recognize me. | ||
Now, he's finally recognizing me. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
He loves the shit out of me. | ||
And we look identical. | ||
It gets so... | ||
Wait, show him the picture. | ||
It gets better and better. | ||
You see a picture of him? | ||
It gets better and better and better. | ||
I've seen a few pictures. | ||
It's awesome. | ||
It's not... | ||
There's nothing like it. | ||
You know, I'm not the guy. | ||
Wait till he says daddy hold me. | ||
I want a squad. | ||
Wait till he says daddy. | ||
I want, like, five. | ||
I want five. | ||
Yeah, I'm not the guy that tells people that they need it in their life. | ||
Because, uh, smoke that. | ||
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Alright guys, we're going down a weird rabbit hole now. | |
Hey listen, all you guys out there, I say, live single and experience everything and travel the world. | ||
And then once you do all that shit, there's good shit. | ||
The kid stuff, it used to be, when I was growing up, getting a girl pregnant was like Your life is over! | ||
Your life is over! | ||
Nowadays, it seems like people are having kids and their life means more than ever. | ||
It's also the people you're hanging out with. | ||
Yeah, that's the people you're hanging out with. | ||
But you know what, man? | ||
I've come across a lot of different people in this world. | ||
And I think at a certain point in time, I... Personally think we gotta stop like thinking everybody's gonna live the same way. | ||
Yeah, you know, and if if somebody gets pregnant at 18 and they marry the the their high school sweetheart at 18 That shit sometimes works. | ||
Oh, yeah, just like hell. | ||
Yeah, but we're immediately as men were like that fucking dude damn So pure Well, you know what, man? | ||
It's not just that, but it's also everybody's fucking different, man. | ||
You know, that's like for some people, they find the right person like real early and they just grow together. | ||
They figure out a way to be like really open and friendly really early and they grow together. | ||
There's also nothing worse when I meet a 50 year old, and we have a friend like this, who's not married, has no girlfriend, still playing the field, and he's lonely as fuck. | ||
I'm like, that's how this movie ends, my man. | ||
Not everyone's fucking George Clooney, buddy. | ||
It looks fun, but it's super lonely. | ||
Man, there were times in my life, and me and Joe discussed this many times before we had kids, like, do we really want kids? | ||
You're like, do you want kids? | ||
I think I want kids, but not now, but maybe. | ||
And then a lot of kids. | ||
It's like, fuck, I don't want kids. | ||
Fuck that. | ||
And then you'd see fathers on planes with their kids and they're like, fuck, we're lucky we're not them. | ||
So there were times where I thought, man, I don't want any kids. | ||
I think I was afraid that I was going to feel the same way about my kids as my real dad felt about me. | ||
And that would have been a nightmare. | ||
So I'm like, maybe I got that same shit that my dad has that he don't give a fuck about his kids. | ||
So I'm like, I'm afraid to have kids because I'm afraid that my kid is going to feel about me like I feel about my dad and that would make me want to fucking hang myself. | ||
So there was a lot of time for like, I'm thinking no kids, no kids. | ||
But then I'm like, maybe kids? | ||
I don't know. | ||
Same thing Joe. | ||
There's times where Joe was saying no kids. | ||
But I will say this. | ||
Let me finish real quick. | ||
Let me finish this really quick. | ||
If I was if I was if I found out I was gonna die in five minutes One of my messages would be to all these kids grown up and everything the me like my My version of the meaning of life really after all the shit after no kids kids fuck having kids I want to be free and all that shit I live single up to I'm 40 I would say Having kids is the meaning of life. | ||
That's what I would say. | ||
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I would say. | ||
I would leave my advice like, you're all confused and all that shit. | ||
At the end of the day, when you're getting old, and everyone's going to get old, unless they die young, but when you get old, you're kids. | ||
Your kids are everything. | ||
They're everything. | ||
And then your grandkids. | ||
Without kids, if you're going to grow old and alone, if I was going to die, I'd say, don't. | ||
Try to have kids. | ||
Don't die old and alone. | ||
You only have one, though, yeah? | ||
Don't. | ||
I want more. | ||
Yeah, for sure. | ||
Let's pop out more, though. | ||
Yes. | ||
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For me. | |
Just give this huge speech on kids. | ||
Right now, man, I'm super crazy ultra... | ||
I'm a family man right now. | ||
It's everything to me. | ||
It's everything. | ||
My life is... | ||
I every day remind my... | ||
Because sometimes you get so busy and you've got all these decisions and there's so much shit going on. | ||
Why don't you adopt like six African kids? | ||
You're with your kid and you're thinking about... | ||
The Eddie Bravo Orphanage. | ||
The 10th Planet Orphanage. | ||
10th Planet Kids. | ||
There's 10. I'm going to stop with this. | ||
Sometimes you're with your kids and you guys out there, you might feel the same way if you're with your kids. | ||
Sometimes you're with your kid and you're spending these beautiful moments together, but you're thinking about all this stressful shit and all these decisions you've got to make in your life and fucking EBI AIDS coming up September 11th. | ||
You're like, fuck. | ||
But then I stop and I think. | ||
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Nice plug. | |
Yeah. | ||
That was impressive. | ||
Seriously, this was all day. | ||
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Fight pass. | |
This is stressful shit. | ||
And I'm thinking, I'm here, I'm on the beach today. | ||
I'm at the beach with my son. | ||
I'm like, these are the moments I'm going to be thinking about when I'm dying. | ||
And I'm fucking thinking about some bullshit. | ||
Right now, this is a moment that I would want to come back to if there was a time machine and I can get back... | ||
I would come back to this moment, and I wouldn't be thinking about any of the bullshit. | ||
I would be thinking about every millisecond I had with my son on the beach, playing in the water and shit. | ||
And I'm thinking about other shit, so I constantly remind myself what is the most important thing. | ||
Kids that do that, my man. | ||
That motherfucker right there, he's the most important thing. | ||
That little motherfucker right there? | ||
I hear you. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
So, I'm going to stop. | ||
I'm done. | ||
For sure you need more kids, though. | ||
I do. | ||
I do. | ||
I want more. | ||
Well, I'm done. | ||
Joel looks exhausted. | ||
I'm done. | ||
No, listen, what you're saying is all beautiful. | ||
For sure, man. | ||
I'm with you. | ||
That's the most important thing when I provide myself. | ||
I'm like, shit, I got all this shit. | ||
I'm like, listen, focus on this motherfucker. | ||
I think for all of us, living in the moment is very important. | ||
And it's tough to do. | ||
It's hard to do. | ||
It's something you've got to be real conscious of because it's so easy to get trapped up with your thoughts. | ||
Your thoughts can get gummed up with some unnecessary patterns. | ||
Even plans, right? | ||
Trying to foresee the future. | ||
You've got to remind yourself what the most important thing is. | ||
And the most important thing, if you've got kids, that should be the base of your existence right there. | ||
If it's not, something's wrong. | ||
Besides having kids, there are those moments... | ||
What do you think when you were in your 30s that you had that one switch where you decided you were going to... | ||
Is that Paige Van Zandt in a Sprite commercial? | ||
No, this is that bullshit mobile phone. | ||
It's like cricket, but for UFC. Oh. | ||
Huh. | ||
Metro PCS. They're only in the hoods. | ||
She's adorable. | ||
They're like 9.99 flippo. | ||
This is a sad, like, they're like diminishing that poor man. | ||
He has to chase her and she's not tired and he's exhausted. | ||
It's Metro PCS. She's got some beefy arms too. | ||
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It's very Metro. | |
It's very Metro. | ||
Metro's cricket, yes. | ||
Right, like, if he tried to get fucking crazy, she would beat his ass. | ||
Maybe. | ||
That's the commercial. | ||
He might be a black belt. | ||
Oh, that's the commercial. | ||
No, no, no, no. | ||
In that commercial, right there, that girl beats that dude's ass. | ||
You put me in that commercial, I'll sprint past that bitch. | ||
Hey, Brendan, she ain't beating me anywhere in the world. | ||
Two or three years ago, guys... | ||
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Cut! | |
Dude, you gotta let her beat you. | ||
It ain't fucking happening, man. | ||
Two or three years ago, guys, MMA fans or experts or whatever, there would be a big movement on how, no matter how good an MMA female fighter is, she could never beat a normal man. | ||
It's totally different. | ||
Well, now these... | ||
I think shit's different now. | ||
Oh, I know. | ||
Depends on the culture, Eddie. | ||
Oh, come on. | ||
Depends on the culture. | ||
In Spain? | ||
Claudia will fuck up a dude who doesn't train. | ||
A dude who doesn't train, which is 99. How big? | ||
How big, though? | ||
It does matter. | ||
It always matters in everything. | ||
Within experts in jiu-jitsu, it matters. | ||
It always matters. | ||
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But an entretening 250-pound dude and Claudia... | |
He's gonna knock that bitch to the moon. | ||
No, but if he's like 99.9999% of the population who doesn't train, I'll put my fucking money on Claudia. | ||
Are you talking about Claudia Gedalia? | ||
Yes! | ||
Are you kidding me? | ||
He's 250 pounds. | ||
Oh, no, no, no. | ||
If he doesn't train? | ||
Yeah, but if he's way bigger than her? | ||
She would still get his back and still choke the fuck. | ||
I'll put my money on her. | ||
Maybe because she's got jujitsu. | ||
If he doesn't train. | ||
It's possible. | ||
It's possible. | ||
250-pound guy that doesn't train against Claudia. | ||
Today, if you're going to put your money on... | ||
Claudia will get her... | ||
She'll stand on the outside. | ||
I'd have to see the guy. | ||
It depends on what kind of guy. | ||
If he was like a Ray Lewis... | ||
Hey, listen. | ||
Like, Ray Lewis doesn't train... | ||
I'm not talking about... | ||
He would spike on her head. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
Bill Romanowski doesn't train. | ||
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He doesn't train. | |
Claudia touches him, he's gonna flicker back to Brazil. | ||
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Man, you guys are talking about a 250-pound Ray Lewis. | |
I'm talking about 99.999% of the population. | ||
We're just trying to clarify. | ||
Yeah, I'm trying to see what you... | ||
Ray Lewis doesn't train. | ||
I'm trying to say it. | ||
Eddie, you need more wine. | ||
Hey, listen. | ||
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My point is... | |
No, don't say that. | ||
No, no. | ||
My point is... | ||
The top UFC female fighters today, I would always put my money on them over a guy, any guy on the planet that doesn't train. | ||
I'm going to put all my money on a professional UFC champion. | ||
Think about Johanna on the street and there's a 190 pound guy who's never trained. | ||
Who are you going to put your money on if there was a confrontation in an alley? | ||
I've got to see the guy, Eddie. | ||
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Show me a picture of the fucking It's Johanna. | |
Come on! | ||
Generally, I'm not talking about technically. | ||
We gotta get no age. | ||
What are you gonna want? | ||
The guy's background and what he did growing up and all that shit? | ||
I'm talking about generally. | ||
If he played high school football, he's 250 pounds, he's in shape, does CrossFit, he will kick that bitch straight in the throat. | ||
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CrossFit? | |
What world are you in? | ||
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What fucking world are you living in? | |
You're gonna put your money on a CrossFit guy who's never trained martial arts over Johanna. | ||
Who's wearing some caterpillar boots and doesn't give a fuck about women? | ||
You hate women. | ||
Eddie, what an indictment. | ||
I'm done. | ||
I'm done. | ||
I'll put my money on Claudia. | ||
If Claudia... | ||
I gotta see the guy, Eddie. | ||
Johanna's 115 pounds, and if she was gonna go against a 200-pound random dude who doesn't train... | ||
She's gonna mess him up. | ||
You say Claudia. | ||
Fuck that dude up. | ||
That's gonna be a little... | ||
That's... | ||
What are you talking about, guys? | ||
Jesus fucking Christ. | ||
These are professional killers! | ||
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Just because a girl's like, no, a guy is a guy, and a guy just smashes. | |
It's a bad Brendan impersonation. | ||
Well, it depends on what kind of guy you're talking about. | ||
These are professional. | ||
Yes, correct. | ||
It just depends. | ||
I'm with you 100%. | ||
I don't even give a fuck if the guy played high school football and he's fucking a state champion. | ||
I would take a state champion. | ||
Come on. | ||
That's where I disagree. | ||
Oh, you're going to put your... | ||
Those guys, they never train though. | ||
They never train. | ||
They know how to tackle people. | ||
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They got this. | |
They got this. | ||
If you got a college football player as a starting linebacker. | ||
You think guys know how to throw? | ||
You could just throw a punch? | ||
Just because you're big and he's doing whatever he wants. | ||
You gotta train to throw punches. | ||
You don't watch world star hip-hop. | ||
You gotta train, Eddie. | ||
You don't watch world star hip-hop. | ||
Let me ask you this, Eddie. | ||
In all earnestness. | ||
In all earnestness. | ||
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Okay, you got it. | |
Eddie, there has to be some sort of a weight... | ||
That you're talking about. | ||
Like, if there's two people at 115 pounds, one of them is Ioannion Jacek, and the other one is Mitch Frickin' Fuck. | ||
At Kingco's. | ||
From fucking Westchester, New York. | ||
He's going to sleep. | ||
Yeah, this guy who works in the accounting office and eats McDonald's every weekend. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He's getting his head kicked off. | ||
He's getting a nose done. | ||
He's a man! | ||
I'm talking about a non-training athlete or non-athlete male the same size as her. | ||
She's going to kill him. | ||
The lesbian community is coming after you guys. | ||
Listen, man. | ||
We're just trying to establish some parameters here. | ||
What she's capable of doing If you're talking about... | ||
There's a spectrum. | ||
And there's the non-training, non-athlete male that's the same size as her. | ||
She'd kill him. | ||
He's gonna get fucked up. | ||
He's gonna get fucked up. | ||
Most likely, right? | ||
But then, as you get bigger and bigger... | ||
Physics. | ||
You get different things. | ||
What if the guy wrestled in high school? | ||
Does that count as being trained? | ||
He wrestled one year in high school. | ||
You guys love men. | ||
You guys fucking love men. | ||
What if he took some karate classes when he was in high school? | ||
What if he's just a tough guy who fights a bar? | ||
I said he never trained. | ||
He knows how to kick and punch, but he also does CrossFit and he's 250 fucking pounds. | ||
Shredded. | ||
Then it gets weird. | ||
It does get weird because you're not going to hurt him. | ||
What if he's just fighting bars? | ||
He's just your local tough guy. | ||
I'll put my money on Claudia. | ||
I'll put my money on Claudia. | ||
God bless you. | ||
You might be right. | ||
195 pound high school football player. | ||
High school football player against Claudia. | ||
He might win, but you got to go, shit. | ||
You don't know what's going to happen. | ||
You might get surprised. | ||
You might get surprised. | ||
She's going to get this dude's back. | ||
I've seen big dudes come in class all the time. | ||
They get wrecked by my girls. | ||
I see it all the time. | ||
I see it. | ||
They're doing jiu-jitsu. | ||
They're starting in a jiu-jitsu manner. | ||
Put that big dude on his feet. | ||
That's where it gets weird. | ||
If he lands an uppercut, that bitch is going to think she's on another dimension. | ||
If he never had a punch at all, and he's a big giant dude... | ||
But they've never trained. | ||
They've never trained. | ||
I think Eddie has a point. | ||
I think Eddie has a point. | ||
You have a point. | ||
99% of the population has never trained. | ||
I'm agreeing with Eddie. | ||
If they're the same weight... | ||
You guys hate chicks. | ||
Oh, God. | ||
No, Eddie's right. | ||
If it's Claudia or if it's Joanna, and they're fighting a 195-pound male who's never trained, the male's going to be in some trouble for a lot of reasons. | ||
One, on the ground, he's going to have some trouble. | ||
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How's she going to take the line? | |
Let's stop the sex thing altogether. | ||
Let's just go with the size of humans. | ||
If Mighty Mouse has to fight Ray Lewis in his prime, there's a fucking problem. | ||
Okay? | ||
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Mighty Mouse has a fucking giant problem. | |
I put my money on Mighty Mouse. | ||
Okay, but Eddie, okay, but let's stop saying this is a male or a female thing. | ||
You want to eat a J-Check weighs 10 pounds less than Mighty Mouse. | ||
Correct. | ||
Okay? | ||
And she's a woman. | ||
It's not saying that women can't beat the fuck out of men. | ||
They absolutely can. | ||
But at a certain weight, it becomes weird. | ||
And it depends on what kind of athlete you're talking about. | ||
It depends on what. | ||
It depends. | ||
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It always depends, yes. | |
If they have any experience in moving their body at all, the key word has to be totally uncalled. | ||
What kid grows up with zero knowledge of how to throw a punch? | ||
Who the fuck are they? | ||
I want to meet these people. | ||
Most people can't throw punches. | ||
They know how to throw a shitty... | ||
They know how to throw a shitty, looping, dog shit punch. | ||
But if it lands and you're way smaller than them, you're fucked. | ||
If you're a 110 pound accountant and there's a 300 pound Samoan dude that's never sparred a day in his life... | ||
Why do you gotta make Samoans? | ||
Because they're the strongest! | ||
Okay, listen. | ||
David Tula, motherfucker! | ||
I'm talking about the odds and betting. | ||
I'm not saying 100%. | ||
I think you're right. | ||
You're talking about gambling. | ||
Of course a guy can throw. | ||
Of course you're never going to bet and go, a million percent I'm going to win. | ||
That guy's not going to hit you on it. | ||
Yes, if that big dude lands that crazy looping punch that he learned from watching Chuck Norris movies, yes, he will knock him out. | ||
But the money, you've got to put the money. | ||
The money's on Claudia. | ||
Claudia's not going to get hit by an overhand shitty looping shot. | ||
She's going to move out of the way. | ||
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Here's the point. | |
You're going to get that dude's You and I are feminists. | ||
You guys are fucking chauvinists. | ||
This is the point and this is what we love about MMA. This is the point and what I love about martial arts. | ||
You might be right. | ||
You might be right. | ||
To pretend you know you're right is ridiculous, but you might be right. | ||
It's entirely possible that Claudia Gedalia could fuck up Ray Lewis and that they could have a crazy wild scrap Not Ray Lewis. | ||
Don't use Ray Lewis. | ||
He's just too much of a super athlete. | ||
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Now you're backing up. | |
He was a state wrestling champion. | ||
She catches him in a truck. | ||
Why do you have to bring up Ray Lewis? | ||
Oh, so they're a good athlete. | ||
Why Ray Lewis? | ||
Ray Lewis killed two people. | ||
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Ray Lee Gunn represents the ultimate non-fighting guy. | |
When I think of a guy who's not a fighter, but is just a fucking superior athlete. | ||
He's going to do whatever he wants to those girls. | ||
I think of Ray Lewis. | ||
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He's never trained. | |
Because I don't know shit about football, but I've watched Ray Lewis move. | ||
I've watched that guy run through people. | ||
Most people are not Ray Lewis. | ||
That's a small percentage of the population. | ||
It's a.01. | ||
Hershel Walker! | ||
Even less than Ray Lewis! | ||
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Disaster! | |
Keep him away from me! | ||
Disaster! | ||
Keep him away from me no matter what you weigh! | ||
They're.01 percenters, those guys! | ||
Jesus! | ||
In every way! | ||
Look at him! | ||
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Look at him! | |
Just get the fuck out of here! | ||
Just get the fuck out of here! | ||
Goddamn! | ||
If you're Claude Ciccadillo, you've got a huge problem on your hands! | ||
We're talking about betting! | ||
We're talking about betting! | ||
Oh, Eddie, stop! | ||
He'll run right at you, Eddie! | ||
He'll run right at you! | ||
He'll do whatever he wants! | ||
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Look at that tackle! | |
You die! | ||
Look at how he tackled these people! | ||
Fuck him up! | ||
I don't know what you smoked, Eddie. | ||
Ray Lewis? | ||
Claudia would fuck up Ray Lewis? | ||
Fuck yes! | ||
Stop it, dude! | ||
I would put my money on Claudia! | ||
Here's the match. | ||
I would put my money on Claudia. | ||
Here's the match. | ||
Claudia Gedalia versus Ray Lewis in the middle of a football field. | ||
Ray gets a running start. | ||
How about the Cyborg versus Ray Lewis? | ||
Fuck that story. | ||
You want to go with Super Athlete? | ||
I'm going with Super Athlete. | ||
Who would you put your money on? | ||
Ray Lewis versus Ray Lewis? | ||
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Ray Lewis would smash her on her head like a fake wrestling move. | |
No way! | ||
You actually think so? | ||
No, maybe. | ||
170 pounds. | ||
You can't put money on that. | ||
175 pounds. | ||
I'm going to leave this room. | ||
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I'm going to leave this room if you think Cyborg beats Ray Lewis. | |
I do. | ||
We've got to really stop talking over each other. | ||
And we gotta really, like, open up this discussion to more of a give and take, more of a flow. | ||
Look at Talos Latis right now. | ||
Take a fight break, guys. | ||
We're gonna take a fight break. | ||
Hold on. | ||
Talos Latis has got Chris Camozzi's back. | ||
We're taking a fight break, guys. | ||
That's bad news for Chris. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Talos is a world champion in jiu-jitsu. | ||
Look, Ray Lewis is a superior athlete. | ||
You guys picked He's one of the best players of all time. | ||
Well, that's what I'm thinking. | ||
I'm thinking of a super explosive... | ||
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He's the number one non-martial arts guy in history against Claudia. | |
Well, here's the thing. | ||
You can't say Herschel Walker. | ||
You can't say Herschel Walker because Herschel Walker is an actual martial artist. | ||
John Stockton from the Utah Jazz. | ||
John Stockton versus Claudia Goodell. | ||
John Stockton? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Fucking wheel kicker in the face. | ||
Come on. | ||
He's John Stockton! | ||
You're gonna put money on John Stockton. | ||
He's the most assist ever in the NBA. Yes! | ||
You're gonna go with John Stockton. | ||
Seriously? | ||
Over Claudia Gidea. | ||
John's never fought. | ||
Oh my God. | ||
Fuck both of you two. | ||
Claudia Gidea. | ||
I'm done. | ||
Please, everybody. | ||
Claudia Gidea. | ||
Brian, you fought taekwondo. | ||
You think you can beat Claudia up? | ||
You're 170 pounds soaking wet. | ||
Her name's Claudia. | ||
Who would you put your money on? | ||
Can you beat her up? | ||
Who would you put your money on, Brian? | ||
I mean, I don't want to say anything I love. | ||
Because you think you're going to beat her up. | ||
And you think you're a better athlete than John Stockton? | ||
Guys, we can't talk over each other like this. | ||
This is ridiculous. | ||
No, but John Stockton's never done anything. | ||
He's never wrestled, never thrown a punch. | ||
He might have been in bar fights, though. | ||
So you think you're doing a few years of taekwondo? | ||
It's more than a few years, but keep going. | ||
You could beat her up? | ||
I never said I could beat up anybody. | ||
Stop putting words in my mouth. | ||
This is disturbing. | ||
I'm asking, okay. | ||
If a grown man has never had... | ||
I'm asking, can Brian Callen... | ||
How the fuck did we go from Ray Lewis to Brian Callen in one job? | ||
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I love the comparison. | |
Ray Lewis is too easy. | ||
Listen, can we get Dean Cain in the mix? | ||
Can I get like a mediary? | ||
Dean Cain is the bridge! | ||
He's the bridge! | ||
Dean Cain is a great name. | ||
Herschel Walker. | ||
He played D1 Walk, Dean Cain. | ||
Herschel Walker and you. | ||
Dean Cain. | ||
Who do you got? | ||
That's a great bridge. | ||
He's a stud. | ||
Mario Lopez versus Claudio. | ||
Mario boxes all the time. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
Okay. | ||
You're right. | ||
You're right. | ||
There's Dean Cain. | ||
Yeah, now you might have to have a guy between me and Dean. | ||
That's a big bridge. | ||
I'm trying to be nice. | ||
You're my friend. | ||
Thank you. | ||
I appreciate that. | ||
There's a gang of people. | ||
There's a gang of people between you two. | ||
There probably is. | ||
I hate to say it. | ||
What about Jason Statham? | ||
He's in between. | ||
Versus who? | ||
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Cyborg? | |
Oh no, Ben Affleck. | ||
How about Ben Affleck? | ||
Versus who? | ||
Rhonda? | ||
Versus who? | ||
You guys are so serious! | ||
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What the fuck is going on right now? | |
Oh my god! | ||
I'm serious! | ||
I've never seen Joe more serious! | ||
I guarantee you, I can bring you a gang of bitches that can fuck up Ben Affleck. | ||
That's Batman, you motherfucker! | ||
Just say jump, motherfucker. | ||
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That's Batman. | |
I'm making a call. | ||
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We're going to make some shit happen. | |
Look at him right there. | ||
He's telling me. | ||
I will get your ass kicked. | ||
I've never seen you more yet since in my life. | ||
I will get your ass kicked. | ||
Hey, Brendan, serious question. | ||
Can we let each other talk? | ||
This is one of those things where it really does come up. | ||
You're talking about the difference between a trained fighter and an actor. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Who do you put your money on? | ||
Ben Affleck or Cyborg? | ||
Right now. | ||
Oh, Cyborg. | ||
Oh, come on. | ||
Cyborg. | ||
She's a million dollars. | ||
That's what I'm talking about. | ||
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Ben Affleck represents the average man. | |
You said Claudia. | ||
But he's the average male. | ||
Ben Affleck looks athletic. | ||
I don't know how much he did in his stunts in Batman. | ||
He's a big guy. | ||
He can move. | ||
He's a big guy. | ||
He's a strong guy. | ||
I need to say one thing. | ||
There's a giant difference between him and a cyborg. | ||
Let me ask a question. | ||
I want to ask a question. | ||
That's what I'm talking about. | ||
This is to Brennan the MMA fighter. | ||
That's Batman and he was in Good Will Hunt. | ||
He did do some fighting. | ||
Hold on, Brennan. | ||
For real. | ||
This is a real question. | ||
Let's get scientific. | ||
You guys ready to get scientific? | ||
I'm serious here. | ||
Ready? | ||
Okay. | ||
Brennan. | ||
Cyborg at 175 pounds. | ||
You put her in the octagon against Ray Lewis. | ||
And I'm talking about Ray Lewis when he was playing. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Okay, now we know Ray Lewis is a freak athlete, one of the greatest football players of all time. | ||
State champion wrestler. | ||
Hold on, hold on. | ||
Oh, I didn't know that. | ||
It's a rout. | ||
Hold on. | ||
Now wait. | ||
Wait. | ||
Keep going. | ||
Explain to me, though, how Ray Lewis deals with Cyborg's striking and her jujitsu. | ||
Oh, how about he picks her up and throws her to the fucking moon? | ||
Then what? | ||
What are you talking about? | ||
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He can crush her by slamming her to the ground. | |
I'm with you, Brian. | ||
He's so big, strong, and powerful. | ||
You're going to put your money on him? | ||
So check it out. | ||
Wait, wait, wait. | ||
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Cyborg? | |
Ray Lewis? | ||
Cyborg brawls, right? | ||
Let's say Cyborg tags him. | ||
Probably not going to knock him out. | ||
Sure. | ||
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He lands one fucking Baltimore punch. | |
Dude, how is he gonna land that punch? | ||
Cyborg is a trained striker. | ||
She gets hit all the time. | ||
She gets hit all the time? | ||
Oh, come on. | ||
She might slip her dog. | ||
It's Ray Lewis! | ||
We need a tale of a tape with Cyborg versus Ray Lewis. | ||
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That's what we need. | |
Put that shit on Instagram. | ||
Here's issue number one, okay? | ||
We're dealing with almost 100 pounds of difference. | ||
Yes, of pure muscle. | ||
And a man. | ||
Yes. | ||
Okay, so we're dealing with a super athlete in Ray Lewis who's a good solid 240 versus a woman who fights at 145 but really is a 145. And he's also a Hall of Famer. | ||
Some say the best linebacker of all time in the NFL. But it's all in the debate though. | ||
You got people on both sides. | ||
You guys are making good points, but we're making good points too. | ||
You don't really know. | ||
Competitive wrestling experience. | ||
Yeah, huge difference. | ||
That's a giant difference. | ||
I guarantee you, Ray Lewis has beat someone's ass before. | ||
He killed a guy! | ||
You gotta train to throw punches. | ||
One of his friends allegedly was involved in an altercation where a man went to heaven. | ||
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Guys, guys, guys, guys, wait a minute. | |
Ray Lewis, Ray Lewis, hold on. | ||
Ray Lewis could also, he could pick her up, throw her to the ground. | ||
Ray Lewis could also start punching her in the face and get armbarred. | ||
And we know that you're talking about Ray Lewis' huge arm. | ||
Hold on. | ||
No, he takes her down. | ||
He takes her down. | ||
Listen, can he learn about this fight a week before it happens? | ||
Yeah, does it just happen in here? | ||
The answer to that question, sir, is no. | ||
That's an important question. | ||
It's very important. | ||
When was he aware of the fight? | ||
Listen to me. | ||
Listen to me. | ||
If I could get Michael Irvin... | ||
He finds out the game. | ||
How old is Michael Irvin now? | ||
40-something. | ||
If I could just get six weeks with Michael Irvin, any woman in the world that wants to get crazy could step up. | ||
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No. | |
I agree. | ||
100%. | ||
You bring him to Farasa, Javi. | ||
No training camp. | ||
We're not talking about a fucking training camp. | ||
You just found out. | ||
Ray Lewis. | ||
You're talking about training camp? | ||
Oh, look at him. | ||
He's so serious. | ||
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He finds out. | |
Day of. | ||
And then you fight. | ||
Cyborg versus Ray Lewis. | ||
My money would be on Ray Lewis 100% of the time. | ||
Amazing. | ||
I'm shocked. | ||
I'm standing here shocked. | ||
With my jaw on the fucking floor. | ||
Do you not watch football? | ||
Do you not watch football? | ||
Okay, but let me tell you this. | ||
I got my money on Cyborg 100% 100 times in a row against Ben Affleck. | ||
Yeah! | ||
Yes! | ||
Big difference! | ||
Bet the house on the Brazilian gal! | ||
100%. | ||
All in! | ||
100%. | ||
All in! | ||
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100%. | |
You put money on Ray Lewis, though? | ||
Ray Lewis is so much bigger, and I think he probably knows how to fight. | ||
He's not totally unskilled. | ||
Listen, you think she can stop the shot? | ||
Do you think she can stop the shot? | ||
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No, no. | |
Ray Lewis is a bad example. | ||
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How are you gonna stop the shot of a state champion wrestler's 1040 pounds? | |
That bitch is gonna fucking kneel when he comes in. | ||
Ray Lewis is a bad example. | ||
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He's just too good. | |
He's a bad example. | ||
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He's just too good. | |
This ain't the Super Bowl! | ||
This ain't the Super Bowl! | ||
Ray Lewis is a bad example. | ||
He's just such a freak athlete. | ||
Yeah, it's a bad example. | ||
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This is the greatest event of all time! | |
This is the greatest event in the universe! | ||
Here's a huge X Factor. | ||
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If you saw it in this bitch, because then they're both juiced to the gills. | |
Hey, Cyborg's looking like... | ||
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She's looking very natural. | |
She's looking very natural. | ||
In what world? | ||
She's been tested as much as anybody. | ||
She's 100% clean now. | ||
She's not crazy yoked no more. | ||
Could Cyborg get behind Ray Lewis like this? | ||
Absolutely not, sir. | ||
Why not? | ||
Because we live in the real world. | ||
But he doesn't have to stop that. | ||
Do you understand the difference between you, Brian, just you? | ||
You and Ray Lewis. | ||
Ray Lewis would probably fuck me up. | ||
Can you imagine? | ||
Not in real fight, Brennan. | ||
Ray Lewis would give me some problems. | ||
No, that's not true. | ||
You would kill him. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
You would stop him in less than a minute. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
And I'm going to tell you why. | ||
If he'd never trained, you would choke him to death. | ||
But we know he's trained. | ||
While Ray did some wrestling, Brennan would kill him. | ||
Somebody showed Ray Lewis how to choke people. | ||
No training camp! | ||
But hold up, hold up. | ||
You can't have a training camp! | ||
But let's be realistic. | ||
You don't think someone has shown Ray Lewis how to choke people to sleep? | ||
How do I hold it like this? | ||
Yeah, you're probably right. | ||
And like this here? | ||
You might be right. | ||
Oh, you mean just do this? | ||
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I'm the captain of the fucking defense, which is complicated as fuck? | |
I just do this? | ||
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Oh, it's that easy? | |
Oh, it's that easy? | ||
Oh, here we go. | ||
It's that easy? | ||
It's definitely not that easy. | ||
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It ain't that fucking easy. | |
I got super athletes coming in all the time. | ||
They don't know shit. | ||
Eddie, hold on. | ||
He's a smart guy. | ||
He's a state champion wrestler. | ||
He's also a smart guy. | ||
Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
If you're the captain of a defense team, he was explaining to me how intricate football is. | ||
You gotta have a brain. | ||
That dude is smart as shit. | ||
Okay, Ray Lewis is a bad motherfucker. | ||
Make no mistake about it. | ||
Maybe the best. | ||
He ain't gonna learn no fucking rear naked. | ||
He's not gonna be rear naked. | ||
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He doesn't need to. | |
You guys are not being respectful at MMA. I'm disgusted. | ||
Not until maybe five months into jiu-jitsu. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Kamozi with the right hand. | ||
Kamozi with the right hand. | ||
Kamozi is so tough. | ||
We got a scrap. | ||
Kamozi is so tough. | ||
Fuck you and Ray Lewis. | ||
This is way better. | ||
One of the things I like the most about Kamozi is he maintains a steady pace through the entire fight. | ||
Look at this. | ||
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If he chokes him out... | |
His pace just destroys people. | ||
Eddie Bravo just went to the bathroom. | ||
Let's talk shit about him. | ||
That motherfucker's on one tonight! | ||
Oh my god! | ||
That motherfucker's on one! | ||
He's so passionate. | ||
Super passionate. | ||
And you know what? | ||
I think the moral of the story tonight? | ||
Eddie needs to have more kids. | ||
He needs to adopt some little African kids. | ||
Well, it's beautiful. | ||
I love hearing that. | ||
Yeah, it was. | ||
I love hearing that. | ||
Yeah, all 20 minutes. | ||
I love hearing that. | ||
He got a little crazy. | ||
All 20 minutes. | ||
I got a little crazy for a while. | ||
No, I got it in the first two minutes. | ||
It was just sweet, though. | ||
There was no way it was going to end. | ||
I tried even jumping in. | ||
Listen, man, he's a passionate guy. | ||
What he is saying is what is on his mind, and he's so overwhelmed with it. | ||
But that's why he's so great at everything he does. | ||
He's also right, though. | ||
Eddie gets obsessed with things. | ||
He is right. | ||
He's also right. | ||
There's nothing better than kids. | ||
Eddie gets obsessed with things, and it's why he's this jujitsu... | ||
Phenom. | ||
Phenom, yes. | ||
I mean, that's really what it is. | ||
And his mind works like that with everything. | ||
And it's working like that with parenthood, too, which is a beautiful thing to see. | ||
If you're not obsessed with your kid, though, you kind of suck. | ||
A lot of people aren't. | ||
It's uncomfortable, for sure, to think that there's people out there that don't care, and they don't love people that are with them, and they don't love their families. | ||
Brian said, oh, a lot of people aren't, Brandon. | ||
That's not fair. | ||
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Hey, bro. | |
I didn't say anything. | ||
A lot of people aren't. | ||
I said it twice, too. | ||
In a really weird way, like in a movie, I went, a lot of people aren't, Brandon. | ||
A lot of people aren't. | ||
You're too young, Brandon. | ||
When you say something twice, it's always kind of like one of those things. | ||
Watch this. | ||
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Hashtag shitty dick. | |
No, it means something else. | ||
So you can say, watch this. | ||
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Ready? | |
Watch this. | ||
Joe Rogan's a strong... | ||
No, wait. | ||
Hold on. | ||
Joe Rogan's a strong guy. | ||
He's a strong guy. | ||
Yeah, there's a way to, like, you can sarcastically... | ||
Or it adds something else. | ||
Yeah, you can do a lot of different things if you say it twice. | ||
It means you're dead serious is what I thought. | ||
Sometimes it's dead serious if you, like, overemphasize a second time, you know? | ||
If you're like, Conor McGregor is a bad motherfucker, dude. | ||
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Conor McGregor is a bad motherfucker. | |
Yes. | ||
Now, hold on. | ||
Here's an acting job. | ||
Can you say it three times and change the third time's meaning? | ||
Like, what do you mean? | ||
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I don't know. | |
Conor McGregor's a bad motherfucker. | ||
That motherfucker is bad. | ||
That motherfucker is bad! | ||
You see, it just boom, boom, boom. | ||
But you got super, like, black. | ||
Well, no, that's how I talk. | ||
I'm from Aurora. | ||
That's what we do. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Remember when Kimbo Slice asked you if you were black? | ||
That's like one of my favorite stories from this podcast. | ||
Kimbo Slate thought that he was black. | ||
They had heard that there was a guy on the podcast, or on the podcast, on the Ultimate Fighter. | ||
Oh shit, Talos Slate does has Kamozi. | ||
He taps. | ||
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Shit. | |
Damn. | ||
Talos' jiu-jitsu is legit as fuck. | ||
Hell yeah. | ||
Poor Kamozi, he gets jacaray twice and then like a thousand ladies. | ||
That's a big win for Talos Latis. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I haven't seen him in a long time. | ||
Oh, so there was a guy on The Ultimate Fighter that was possibly a Nazi. | ||
He went full rogue racist. | ||
And they got together and they were all talking about it and they went to Brendan. | ||
Because they said, you know, they thought that Brendan was black. | ||
And Brendan's like, dude, I'm not black. | ||
He's like, you ain't black. | ||
And Kimbo said, what did he say? | ||
He goes, that's why I like Brendan. | ||
That's why I like Sean. | ||
I can't tell what the fuck he is. | ||
That's hysterical. | ||
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It was the best. | |
That's hysterical. | ||
Talos Latis always had a nasty rear naked choke. | ||
Talos Latis always had a nasty choke. | ||
He always had a nasty choke. | ||
You know what? | ||
If he would have held that in for 30 more seconds, he would have turned him into a vegetable. | ||
Good chance. | ||
That's why there's refs there, Eddie. | ||
Dude, there's a play, a sick play called The Toyer, and it's about this guy who has been coming into women's houses, and he sticks a needle in their back that causes them to become vegetables, like you're talking about, and then he dresses them up like dolls. | ||
Eddie, look up there. | ||
Oh no. | ||
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That is so ridiculous. | |
That's awful. | ||
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Did you make up Jamie? | |
Did you make up Jamie? | ||
Jamie, well done. | ||
Jamie, that is so ridiculous. | ||
That's amazing. | ||
Look at fucking Callen's face. | ||
Can you Photoshop Ray Lewis in full football gear like tackling somebody in the octagon with cyborg knee in him in the face and it says, this ain't the Super Bowl, bitch? | ||
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No. | |
That's a lot of work. | ||
That was a lot of shit. | ||
If that's too hard, I apologize. | ||
Send that to Photoshop Steve. | ||
They're already doing it right now. | ||
Their people are doing it right now. | ||
When you get out of here, you're going to have 40 of them. | ||
Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan. | ||
If that's too much, I apologize. | ||
Joe Rogan, I'm not going to give you a pic. | ||
Just disregard that request. | ||
Nate Diaz, Conor McGregor 2, what's your call? | ||
They didn't give a call. | ||
I don't ever give a call. | ||
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I know that. | |
I'm being dramatic. | ||
Listen, man. | ||
Nate Diaz has a full camp, but he also has all that goddamn press. | ||
He's also got all that pressure, and Conor has an opportunity to prepare exclusively just for him. | ||
And it's not like he didn't have some success in the first fight. | ||
A lot of success. | ||
Because he pretty much dominated the first round. | ||
He looked beautiful, but the problem was he tried to... | ||
He used those one-hitter-quitter punches. | ||
He tried to just crack them and drop them. | ||
And Nate is a bigger, stronger man than most of the people that Connors fought. | ||
And he knows how to absorb punches. | ||
And he sparred with a lot of world-class boxers like Andre Ward. | ||
Who's fighting right now. | ||
Who's fighting tonight. | ||
Don't tell me the results. | ||
I don't know the results. | ||
I'm not touching my phone until I get back. | ||
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Me neither. | |
Me too. | ||
You guys are crazy. | ||
I love Andre Ward. | ||
He's one of my favorite fighters. | ||
He's awesome. | ||
He's so fucking smart. | ||
That's what I like about Andre Ward. | ||
Top three, pound for pound. | ||
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Damn. | |
He's so goddamn smart. | ||
When he breaks down boxing, like when he does the analyst position on HBO, you realize, like, oh, okay, this dude is just a super smart guy. | ||
Undefeated gold medalist. | ||
He's a monster. | ||
Gold medalist in the Olympics? | ||
Yes. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You know what? | ||
I was talking about him. | ||
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Was there an Andre Ward that was a different Andre Ward? | |
No. | ||
Or is that football? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
Because I'm thinking Andre Ward's like... | ||
Andre Ward played for the Lions. | ||
You're right. | ||
That's what I'm... | ||
There's a boxer now. | ||
Yes. | ||
He's the best boxer in the world. | ||
When you say underwear boxer, I'm like, is that guy like 45 now and fighting like Bernard? | ||
The Ward you're talking about played for the Detroit Lions. | ||
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Yes. | |
Good call, Eddie. | ||
I had a conversation with Andre Berto, who's in his camp. | ||
That's a retarded call, actually. | ||
I got confused. | ||
I'm sorry. | ||
Go ahead. | ||
So I had this conversation with Andre Berto about Andre Ward. | ||
Because they're in the same camp and they're buddies. | ||
They came up together. | ||
And he was telling me that he learned a lot just watching Andre Ward. | ||
The way Virgil Hunter has him do it, if you watch him warm up, he'll do things. | ||
He's so technical where he... | ||
Like, literally, he won't throw punches when he shadowboxes. | ||
He spends a lot of time literally just doing the perfect kind of hooks. | ||
Like, everything is... | ||
Like, he's obsessed with... | ||
For people who are not watching you, you're doing everything super slow in the air. | ||
And shadowboxing. | ||
Everything. | ||
He's obsessed with perfect technique. | ||
Like, every detail. | ||
Where his feet are. | ||
And he always does that. | ||
And he obsesses over exactly where his body's going to be in almost slow motion for a long time. | ||
And then he'll start doing things. | ||
Well, I didn't know. | ||
Fundamentals. | ||
When I was a kid, I used to think that forms were stupid, and I used to think that, like, even throwing kicks in the air couldn't compare to doing things like throwing kicks in the bag. | ||
And then, like, a lot of the decorative aspects of martial arts, like, you know, you throw a sidekick and you hold it up there, and then you throw a second sidekick, and then you do all these different combinations that you'd have to do in these forms. | ||
I think they're stupid. | ||
But now I understand that it's almost like you're doing, like, a form of yoga. | ||
Yes. | ||
But you're throwing those kicks out there and you're holding them in place. | ||
And even though that's not how you would ever fight, these are all important movements if you could figure out how to do that and make it beautiful. | ||
The muscle memory. | ||
And make that flow. | ||
Well, also body control. | ||
Yeah, body control. | ||
Body control. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Jamie, bring up Andre Ward. | ||
But for sidekicks, that is one of the most important aspects of throwing a sidekick is throwing it in the air. | ||
Learning how to throw it in the air where your body is moving forward. | ||
Because if you use a bag prematurely, you grow accustomed to bouncing off of it. | ||
And that's the difference between someone who bounces off of that technique and drives through it. | ||
And the person who drives through it, when they drive with their hip, there's so much more power. | ||
And it takes the same amount of time. | ||
There's no difference in the amount of time. | ||
But the amount of force that someone who knows how to really drive their hip forward, you develop that. | ||
A lot of it is by kicking the air. | ||
Because you snap. | ||
And you extend that side kick out, and you pull it back, and you snap. | ||
And it's all about doing it as fast as you can. | ||
And then, once you develop the technique perfectly, then you start moving to kicking things. | ||
Usually it's a person with a cushion that moves towards you slowly, or it's a really light bag, and you slowly develop your ability to move your weight into it. | ||
But if you don't do it right, you can develop this one aspect of that kick that most people have, which is they kick off of people. | ||
They kick them and they push off. | ||
That's right. | ||
The woman who's responsible for the Russian Revolution in tennis, like she came up with Sharapova and all these amazing tennis players. | ||
She will have her students in a group, before they even hit a ball, just slowly, you know, literally just practicing their stroke in a really slow manner. | ||
It's the same exact thing. | ||
I think their first two weeks of camp is all basics and super slow like that. | ||
Jamie, bring up Andre Ward shadow boxing, warming up. | ||
It's really wild to watch. | ||
Don't bring up it going on right now, though. | ||
It is really interesting, man. | ||
It is really interesting, the idea of what is the best way to learn how to execute certain techniques. | ||
You know, there's always a lot of debate about it, man. | ||
There's a lot of debate about how much sparring you should do versus how much, you know, simulation drills you should do versus how much bag work you should do. | ||
Well, and this might be it. | ||
I don't know if this is the one. | ||
People are watching him right now. | ||
There's another one where he's, yeah, he's being watched right now, so he's going to go faster. | ||
Well, he's just doing regular shadow watching there. | ||
But he might not, man. | ||
I mean, he doesn't give a fuck. | ||
Bring up the other one. | ||
Bring up the other one where he's, you'll see it even more slow. | ||
How nuts is that fight going to be? | ||
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Holy shit. | |
Shit. | ||
Look at how specific he is, though. | ||
I'm interested in, I don't want to know who won tonight, but if Andre Ward wins, I'm very interested in him versus Kovalev. | ||
That's the plan. | ||
It's for sure. | ||
Kovalev has a fight, Ward has a fight, and the next is Kovalev. | ||
Very interested in that fight. | ||
God, I tell you what, man. | ||
If I had to put my money on someone right now, it's Kovalev. | ||
Kovalev is scary. | ||
He killed a guy. | ||
He did and you know what I was really most impressed was when he outboxed Bernard Hopkins. | ||
See what he's doing right there? | ||
See what he's doing? | ||
Look at this. | ||
He was boxing him up. | ||
See what he's doing? | ||
He's going pretty fast, Brian. | ||
I don't see it yet, buddy. | ||
No, he's trying. | ||
Some of it was slow. | ||
Yeah, no, it's super slow. | ||
There we go. | ||
Now he's speeding up. | ||
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That is the most impressive shadow boxing I've ever seen. | |
He's awesome. | ||
He's so good. | ||
It's interesting because he's throwing those punches with power. | ||
You can tell in the snap. | ||
It's all... | ||
It's perfect. | ||
It's Andre Ward for God's sake. | ||
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That's Kata. | |
That's Kata. | ||
People talk shit on Kata. | ||
Oh, you won a Forum's gold medal? | ||
People talk shit on Kata for so long. | ||
This is just Kata. | ||
Yeah, it might be even better even than Kata. | ||
You know, what's interesting when you watch a guy like him do that, as opposed to that Russian gentleman that we were seeing earlier that's learning how to box, that's where you see the difference. | ||
We're talking about best in the world versus the guy who just learned last week. | ||
But those movements, they're not unattainable. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
It's like if you're watching someone do a move, right? | ||
Like, say, if they're choreographing Michael Jackson's Thriller, all the zombies are doing it. | ||
That was like a choreographed thing, right? | ||
So the idea is that there's similar movement. | ||
Everybody has similar movement. | ||
Like, that movement that he's doing is not unattainable. | ||
What he's doing is things that everyone can do. | ||
They just can't do it the way he's doing it. | ||
He's just done it 10,000 times. | ||
But what makes it so special... | ||
Nothing he's doing is crazy, acrobatic, ridiculous movements that the average person can't do. | ||
Like Javier Rodriguez, who we're gonna watch fight tonight. | ||
This fucking dude does wild shit. | ||
Flying kneebars, fucking wheel kicks. | ||
Flying round kicks and jumping double round kicks. | ||
He's fun. | ||
He's ridiculously athletic. | ||
Is he a capoeira guy? | ||
No, he's a Taekwondo guy. | ||
Mexican dude. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
He's a regular Mexican guy? | ||
I thought he was Brazilian. | ||
Mexican as fuck. | ||
No, Mexican as fuck. | ||
Oh shit! | ||
So what he's gonna do, the big difference is, what he's gonna do is shit that we can't do. | ||
Like, you look at him throwing those kicks, you're like, fuck! | ||
Like, look at this crazy guy! | ||
Like, he's jumping, spinning cartwheels through the air and roundhouse kicking dudes in the back and the neck. | ||
Yeah, that ain't for everybody. | ||
It's not for everybody. | ||
No, I think it is for everybody, just most people have never gone that far with the reps. | ||
Also, some people aren't explosive enough. | ||
It's not like Cirque du Soleil stuff. | ||
What he's doing, it takes some genetic capabilities. | ||
It's not genetic. | ||
My point is that no one... | ||
It's not genetic. | ||
He's Mexican. | ||
Come on. | ||
It's not genetic. | ||
My point is that no one has a problem doing this or this or this or this. | ||
No one has a problem throwing a normal punch at a very slow pace. | ||
But you can't even do what he's doing like those cartwheel kicks. | ||
You can't even do that slowly. | ||
You can't move the way he's moving. | ||
So the difference between what a guy like Yair can do and a guy like Andre Ward can do, in a way, it makes what Andre Ward can do even more impressive. | ||
Way more impressive. | ||
Because he's boxing guys up, and he's doing it based on his understanding of each different position that might come up while two guys are trying to punch each other in the face. | ||
And also the basics. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Super solid. | ||
But those basics, I could teach my daughter to do. | ||
If she just listened to me and moved slowly. | ||
I'm not saying that someone could punch someone or hurt someone immediately, but I think you could take a 60-year-old executive who's never thrown a punch in his life, and you have him stand there, just make him listen to you, make him put his foot here, lower your weight, lower your weight, okay, square your shoulders, hands up right where your cheekbones are, and just do this. | ||
I just want you to do this. | ||
Now do this. | ||
Okay, now try to get the same guy to do a wheel kick. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Like, you can't do that. | ||
He's gonna blow his asshole out. | ||
So what Yair Kuhn Rodriguez would do is, in one way, more impressive, because he can do physical shit that most people can't do, but another way it makes what Andre Ward does more impressive. | ||
Because Andre Ward is way better than everybody else at just doing shit that everybody can do. | ||
Yes, that's true. | ||
Because I think actually, what you're saying, what you're actually saying is that Punching is more anatomically natural, I think, to a human being walking around than is kicking. | ||
Kicking is really hard. | ||
Like, understanding a really good sidekick or a roundhouse or a wheel kick. | ||
It's not natural. | ||
It's not natural. | ||
But it's like everything else. | ||
Even though punching is easy to attain, you can drill it into someone over and over and over and they can reach that razor-sharp level of proficiency where an Andrzej Ward or a Kovalev is. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Which I can't wait to see that fight, by the way. | ||
It's the best fight of the year. | ||
All the most acrobatical Taekwondo kicks that you could do in the cage. | ||
There's some acrobatical Taekwondo stuff that's Cirque du Soleil stuff when you have those forms and dudes will start like fucking they'll spin like fuck! | ||
That shit you'll never do, but maybe you will one day. | ||
A lot of guys can't do it, though, because they're not athletic enough. | ||
They don't have the vertical, they don't have the genetics. | ||
That's the super crazy shit. | ||
If you could do it in the cage, anybody could do it. | ||
But listen, Michael Page did a 360 roundhouse kick in Bellator. | ||
He knocks some dude out with a 360 roundhouse kick in the face. | ||
He's a freak. | ||
He jumps spinning 360 roundhouse kick like he was a fucking dude in a video game. | ||
Can I see that? | ||
He's the same guy that broke Cyborg's face. | ||
I love that dude. | ||
Oh, he's so good. | ||
Michael fucking paid. | ||
Venom paid. | ||
He's fun to watch, man. | ||
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I barely watch Pelotor, but I remember him. | |
He's the breakout star of Bellator. | ||
They need to just keep feeding him. | ||
Him and Chandler. | ||
He's their wonder boy. | ||
People don't know how good Chandler is either. | ||
Well, Chandler beat Eddie Alvarez. | ||
He's the UFC champ. | ||
He didn't just beat Eddie Alvarez. | ||
You see the way he knocked out Pitbull in his last fight? | ||
No, Michael Chandler's a fucking monster. | ||
Dude, Bellator vs. | ||
UFC might be cool. | ||
Chandler and Michael Venom Page. | ||
It's possible. | ||
Look, I would love that. | ||
Wait, what did Eddie say? | ||
Sorry, I missed it. | ||
Bellator versus UFC could happen. | ||
Why the fuck would UFC do that? | ||
I would, listen, man. | ||
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Why not? | |
Why not? | ||
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Get crazy. | |
Why would the UFC do that? | ||
The new owners. | ||
Is that going to ruin the UFC? Would that ruin the new owners? | ||
No, it's going to ruin Bellator, but UFC would have no reason to do it. | ||
Listen, man, I don't think it's ruining anybody. | ||
I don't think it would be a bad idea. | ||
It makes no sense. | ||
I think there might be money in it. | ||
I think there might be money in it. | ||
Watch this. | ||
Watch this. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Watch this. | ||
Watch Paige. | ||
He backs up. | ||
Here it comes. | ||
Check this shit out. | ||
He got him hurt. | ||
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Boom! | |
Oh, shit. | ||
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He just stands there. | |
You do that all the time. | ||
Dude, he just stands there. | ||
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What? | |
He's a monster. | ||
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That's a great way to win. | |
That takes a lot of practice. | ||
That's a great way to win. | ||
You can't just do that. | ||
They're being smart with him, too. | ||
They're being super smart with him, which they should be. | ||
He's their star, man. | ||
And he speaks well. | ||
He's a character. | ||
He's awesome. | ||
Is he 170 or 55? | ||
70. Damn. | ||
I want to see that guy fight like world-class fighters. | ||
I want to see that guy fight a really good wrestler. | ||
Oh no, he just got caught in that. | ||
Robbie Lawler. | ||
Look, if Bellator, if the UFC's not going to sign Ben Askren, Bellator, sign Ben Askren. | ||
Ben Askren mops the floor with him. | ||
I know that people have a problem with a guy who can just take everybody down. | ||
That's the Andre Ward thing. | ||
That's the Andre Ward thing, though. | ||
Ben Askren's the best at the bit. | ||
You know exactly what the fuck he's gonna do. | ||
But he still does it anyway. | ||
You cannot stop him. | ||
He's the best in the world. | ||
Is he knocking everybody out? | ||
Is he knocking everybody out? | ||
He's knocking some people out in one FC because they let him use knees in the ground. | ||
And he can use knees in the ground now with the new rules. | ||
Ben Askren gets way more dangerous. | ||
Ben Askren mops the floor with anyone in Belgium. | ||
Yeah, I'm talking about Andre Ward. | ||
Is he knocking everybody out? | ||
Oh, he knocks a lot of guns out. | ||
He's a knockout artist. | ||
He's a knockout artist. | ||
And he's at light heavyweight now. | ||
He's not like a Pernod Whitaker. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
You guys might want to watch this fight. | ||
And Honey Jason is throwing down. | ||
Watch Samir Minis. | ||
He's doing his front kicks to his body. | ||
That's a young Roberto Duran right there. | ||
He's rough. | ||
Roberto Duran was never that thick. | ||
It's a good call. | ||
No, he wasn't. | ||
But Duran is a great... | ||
They made a movie about Roberto Duran. | ||
How crazy is that? | ||
Did you know they made a movie about Vinny Pazienza? | ||
Have you seen that ad? | ||
I want to see that. | ||
Yeah, they made a movie about Pazienza. | ||
Broke his neck in a car accident, came back and fought. | ||
What are you, watching trailers all day? | ||
Now I don't need to see the fucking movie. | ||
I love Pazienza. | ||
Spoiler alert. | ||
Spoiler alert. | ||
Guy breaks his neck. | ||
Well, no, he did it in real life, you bastards. | ||
Look at Dennis Bermudez. | ||
He's just crushing him. | ||
He's a fucking monster. | ||
He won like seven in a row, remember that? | ||
Then lost. | ||
I met Pazienza in Vegas once, and he was wearing this beautiful suit with a bandana that was made out of the same material that he was made of. | ||
Oh, he's awesome. | ||
You're fucking right. | ||
He looked beautiful. | ||
He looked beautiful. | ||
Pazienza's a badass. | ||
He's a badass Italian guy. | ||
I fucking love him. | ||
I went to see that guy fight. | ||
I paid to see him fight a couple of times. | ||
Me and my friend Jimmy Lawless, we went to Providence, Rhode Island to watch him fight. | ||
Just a brawler. | ||
Did you see Lawless? | ||
Jimmy Lawless. | ||
That's his name. | ||
Is he related to Blackie Lawless? | ||
Blackie Lawless? | ||
From Wasp? | ||
I asked Boom Boom Mancini. | ||
That's his real name, though. | ||
Jimmy Lawless. | ||
Like, your name's Eddie Bravo, and that sounds ridiculous. | ||
His real name is Jimmy Lawless. | ||
My name sounds ridiculous. | ||
Well, it sounds cool. | ||
It sounds like a superhero. | ||
Eddie Bravo. | ||
It sounds like you picked it. | ||
Like, Bravo is like, you know, it's like Eddie Awesome. | ||
It's like, my name's Eddie Awesome. | ||
I wish my name was Brendan Awesome. | ||
People really think that it's my stage name. | ||
Like a porno man. | ||
Isn't it funny that you can't pick your own name? | ||
I just want to name myself something awesome. | ||
Well, why can't you? | ||
I did. | ||
My name is The Kid. | ||
You did name yourself The Kid. | ||
Nobody gave me that. | ||
I came to set one day, I was doing a movie, and I said, my new name is The Kid. | ||
Is that related to Larry? | ||
The Larry effect? | ||
I just call myself the kid, bro. | ||
That's how you introduce yourself to me? | ||
The cameraman started saying, hey kid, can you? | ||
And I was like, what did you say? | ||
And he goes, kid, can you move? | ||
I go, it's the kid, so please call me the kid. | ||
And I was dead serious. | ||
Well, here's the thing. | ||
Brian and I have been friends for 20, what? | ||
Two years or something like that? | ||
Since 1995, sir. | ||
Okay, so 21 years? | ||
Yeah. | ||
And he always called himself the kid. | ||
He introduced himself as the kid to me. | ||
He called himself the kid back when he was a kid. | ||
I love it. | ||
I'm a young guy. | ||
He was always the kid. | ||
You know how the kid rolls. | ||
He was always the kid. | ||
He was always calling himself the kid. | ||
I love that. | ||
It's how the kid rolls. | ||
Brian Callen always was ridiculous. | ||
I remember the first time I went over to Brian Callen's house, he had no doorknob. | ||
Okay? | ||
I go to his house. | ||
I get to his door. | ||
I get to his door. | ||
There's no fucking doorknob. | ||
I'm like, dude, you don't have a doorknob? | ||
He's like, no, no. | ||
It's like a fucking homeless lady came in. | ||
She was cooking eggs one day. | ||
I go, what? | ||
A homeless lady came in? | ||
She was cooking eggs? | ||
For real? | ||
He goes, yeah, yeah. | ||
I call the cops. | ||
He's beating the fucking tar out of shit. | ||
I used to walk my pit bulls with no leash. | ||
They'd kill cats. | ||
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I'd... | |
That was the worst thing. | ||
They killed his cat, and I was like, oh no, and I grabbed the cat and ran away and buried it. | ||
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He's got that professional base. | |
Bermudez is just... | ||
I felt so bad about that. | ||
Bermudez is so close to the title shot, he won seven in a row. | ||
You know what I mean? | ||
He's beating him with the base. | ||
Yeah, there's some dudes you cannot let posture up, and Bermudez is certainly one of them. | ||
He knows how to drive his weight and smash and crush. | ||
You know he has a cooking show? | ||
Bermuda's does? | ||
Yes, on YouTube. | ||
It's a cooking show, yeah. | ||
And he's doing well with it. | ||
Good for him. | ||
Him and Pat Cummins do the same shit. | ||
Yeah, get it? | ||
Him and Pat Cummins, they make their own sriracha and shit, ride bikes. | ||
Oh man, that's awesome. | ||
I love Pat Cummins. | ||
One of my favorite people. | ||
He's a good dude, man. | ||
I hung out with him. | ||
We went to dinner one of the nights in Brazil before he beat Feijão. | ||
Yes. | ||
And he's a fucking good dude, man. | ||
He's one of the best, man. | ||
He makes a mean sriracha. | ||
A mean sriracha. | ||
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Does he? | |
How do we get a hold of it? | ||
It's sugar-free sriracha. | ||
Where do I get it? | ||
From Pat. | ||
No Pat. | ||
I want to buy it. | ||
I want other people to be able to buy it. | ||
Well, it's not in fucking Ralph's. | ||
Pat's like making it in his backyard. | ||
We gotta get it. | ||
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It's really good, dude. | |
We don't have a Matt's production line. | ||
It's special. | ||
We gotta sell his formula to Anna and get Pat. | ||
There's Matt Serra. | ||
I'm not mad at that idea. | ||
Hey. | ||
The great? | ||
I thought it was Matt Serra. | ||
That's not Matt Serra, you fucking asshole. | ||
Sorry, Matt. | ||
How fucking dare you? | ||
Matt, I'm sorry, dude. | ||
Sorry, Matt. | ||
I saw Matt do stand-up. | ||
Matt was good. | ||
Matt's a funny guy, man. | ||
He was funny, man. | ||
Matt's hilarious. | ||
One of my favorite people. | ||
I'm doing their podcast this week. | ||
The UFC Unfiltered. | ||
Matt, Sarah, and Jim Norton have a podcast. | ||
Matt was funny. | ||
And so was Dana. | ||
Dana actually was pretty good. | ||
Damn, he has Ultimate Fighter Tattoo. | ||
Why not? | ||
That's aggressive. | ||
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Fuck it. | |
Riding the storm, bitch. | ||
Yeah, get it, son. | ||
Come on, man. | ||
That changes his life, you know? | ||
Yeah, I know. | ||
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Why not? | |
Why not? | ||
I know. | ||
What if it's like chained over his ex-girlfriend? | ||
I know. | ||
Who else is on that chain? | ||
It's Jason from the movie, Friday. | ||
That's who's on his arm? | ||
Yes. | ||
And then his back says jujitsu. | ||
I love it all, man. | ||
I love it all. | ||
And then he has a Reebok sign on his neck. | ||
Do you know what Reebok's new saying is? | ||
You know what their logo is? | ||
My bad. | ||
Be more human. | ||
I want to be more human. | ||
Be more like Dennis Bermudez. | ||
Dude's a fucking beast. | ||
Be more creative. | ||
Look at him on top here. | ||
Yeah, he is fucking screwed up. | ||
Dennis Bermudez is a beast. | ||
Sweet. | ||
Check this out. | ||
Half Nelson, welcome to high school. | ||
Let me bully you real quick in front of everybody, motherfucker, and get paid for it. | ||
Damn, he's tough. | ||
You know what you rarely see in MMA is fights stomped on cuts. | ||
Conor's got his hands full with Dennis Bermudez if he comes down to 45. Bermudez ain't touching Conor. | ||
Brian, Brian, Brian, Eddie was talking. | ||
Come on, man. | ||
We can't keep interrupting each other like this. | ||
It seems like in the UFC, blood isn't a big deal like it is in boxing. | ||
It's like you rarely see fights stopped on cuts. | ||
You rarely see that. | ||
They let it go. | ||
Yeah, look at this blood. | ||
You know what? | ||
Maybe blood. | ||
In the WWF and WWE, blood equals money. | ||
That's why guys are cutting themselves up. | ||
It's only three rounds. | ||
That's not true, Brian. | ||
It's 15 minutes. | ||
This is a squirter. | ||
It's based off time. | ||
That's good ratings, right? | ||
Look at Jason's head. | ||
Dude, look at his head. | ||
His head is literally dripping. | ||
As long as he's sliding into his eyes. | ||
I would have the corner guys with ketchup, just like blood, just squirting people. | ||
That's a lot of blood. | ||
If it goes in his eyes, that's when they stop it. | ||
Look at these kicks, dude. | ||
Look at these kicks. | ||
Dennis Bermudez has beautiful technique. | ||
Dude, he is fucking this kid up. | ||
Ryan Parsons is very high on Dennis Bermudez. | ||
Always has been. | ||
Hell yeah, he has been. | ||
Him and Pat. | ||
You know, that fight with Jeremy Stevens was insane. | ||
What a crazy fight that was. | ||
What a crazy knee Stevens lands to close the show. | ||
And think about Bermudez. | ||
Again, I can say it's seven or eight in a row. | ||
Brian, get that fucking cheese out of my face. | ||
I can't stop eating it. | ||
I have an eating fry. | ||
You think that's a fake suntan or is that the real suntan? | ||
That shit is natural. | ||
Oh! | ||
Him and Pat ride bikes in the Orange County like it's their fucking job. | ||
So he's tan. | ||
You know he's riding with his shirt off. | ||
So it's legit. | ||
He's a Mexican gentleman. | ||
So Bermudez doesn't touch Connor? | ||
Well, he's not big enough star to get that fight. | ||
Oh, I see. | ||
You don't think it's fake suntan? | ||
No, not at all. | ||
Bermudez is a nice mocha brown all the time. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
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He's... | |
I don't think he's Mexican. | ||
Puerto Rican? | ||
Spanish. | ||
Cuban? | ||
Something like that. | ||
He's got great skin. | ||
He's got great skin. | ||
Honey Jason's like, get me the fuck out of here. | ||
It's too even to be natural. | ||
It's too perfect to be natural. | ||
I don't think so. | ||
They ride with their bike off in the ocean, man. | ||
Big John McCarthy. | ||
How awesome is he? | ||
Did fake suntanning go under? | ||
It went under with GSP. It went under? | ||
Yes. | ||
Fake suntanning? | ||
Yeah, you can't do that shit anymore. | ||
But did GSB have fake tan or did he just get tanned a lot because tan makes your body actually produce vitamin D, which helps your endurance, helps your anabolic state? | ||
I'm talking about the industry, the fake sun tan industry. | ||
Did it go under? | ||
I don't see them anymore. | ||
Hold on a second. | ||
That is true. | ||
Tanning, tanning booths. | ||
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Is that gone? | |
When you see people tanning, no, it's not gone. | ||
No, they're fucking everywhere. | ||
But there's an athletic benefit to that. | ||
There's an actually athletic benefit. | ||
Your body actually does produce vitamin D. Where did you get that? | ||
From the sun. | ||
Did you go to the internet to get that? | ||
Eddie Bravo, come on. | ||
Steve Maxwell. | ||
Steve Maxwell was talking about it. | ||
He said that GSP was at the center of this. | ||
Steve Maxwell was talking about how Russian athletes have been doing this for a long time, and a lot of other athletes have figured out... | ||
Ain't the darkest Russian you know. | ||
It's always like the Russians are doing it. | ||
It's legit. | ||
Vitamin D. There it is. | ||
Fake sun tanning. | ||
New research shows vitamin D can dramatically increase athletic performance. | ||
And you get that from fake sun tanning? | ||
Yes, you can get vitamin D. You get the same rays that you do from the sun, just intensify. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
I think GSP did it for both. | ||
It's going to be floating. | ||
He's a marketing genius. | ||
You're going to be sun tanning. | ||
Well, GSB did it because he knew it could help his performance, for sure. | ||
And he'd look better, both. | ||
Yes, he looked better. | ||
He's very savvy when it comes to that stuff. | ||
But, you know, Maxwell is, like, he's got his thumb on the pulse. | ||
I mean, of the whole, like, athletic spectrum as far as, like, people's strength and conditioning, little hacks and little things that people do. | ||
He's always got new shit. | ||
Yeah, always something. | ||
He's, like, he's constantly on top of it. | ||
So when he was talking about that, I take everything Maxwell says when it comes to, like, physical fitness and strength and conditioning. | ||
He's a very respectful... | ||
Oh, yeah, I don't think he's bullshit. | ||
I think GSP was doing it for looks and maybe that. | ||
Damn, I never heard that. | ||
That's going to be the new thing. | ||
Dudes are going to be coming in fucking tanned as fuck. | ||
They're going to look like bodybuilders. | ||
They always have. | ||
They're going to have that blackness look. | ||
But you could also take vitamin D, especially D3, and get probably pretty similar results, too. | ||
You just wouldn't get the tan. | ||
But you could get both. | ||
You could supplement with it. | ||
You could take the tan. | ||
You could do a lot of different things. | ||
So basically, if you come in white and not tan, you're not coming in at your full potential. | ||
That's not necessarily true because you'd be supplementing vitamin D. So if you take it... | ||
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I don't know. | |
If you're getting D3... D3 is a hard one to get, man. | ||
If you're not tan, you ain't trying. | ||
I always tan. | ||
What an uncomfortable moment. | ||
This is awkward. | ||
Brian Callen, it's time you start talking. | ||
I was going to say, I'm waiting. | ||
I'm waiting for my opening. | ||
This is getting weird. | ||
This podcast is going to bring back the tanning fucking industry. | ||
You know what I was thinking? | ||
It's definitely not. | ||
You guys are talking? | ||
It's definitely not. | ||
Millions of people listen to your shit. | ||
It's going to bring it back. | ||
You created the floating industry. | ||
This is going to bring back tanning. | ||
I was saying, as you were talking, I was thinking to myself, as people move to higher latitudes, They lost the melanin in their skin because they got less sun, so you have to lose melanin in your skin so you can absorb the ultraviolet rays that create vitamin D. That's why Russians are so white. | ||
And get that skin cancer. | ||
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That's right. | |
That's right. | ||
That doesn't even make any sense. | ||
So white people are actually black people who just need less sun to produce vitamin D. You lost me there. | ||
That's evolutionary biology, you racist bastards. | ||
You said white people are just black people? | ||
What was the rest? | ||
What was the rest? | ||
That just need less sun to produce essential vitamin D, goddammit. | ||
Well, you lost me there. | ||
Is that white people are just black people? | ||
I'm just telling you what my thoughts were, dude. | ||
By the way, I'm gonna start speaking in a seductive voice right now. | ||
I'm not mad at you. | ||
Because I'm getting some wine running through my body and I feel real good and warm. | ||
Oh, nice inside leg. | ||
I love you guys. | ||
I mean as a group too. | ||
As a clump. | ||
When I think of you guys, I think of you guys as a fucking clump. | ||
Bermuda's attacking those inside legs. | ||
I don't give a fuck about Bermuda's. | ||
I'm not done. | ||
I think about you guys as one big brown muscular clump. | ||
You're a brown, skilled, muscular clump. | ||
I don't give a fuck about Trent. | ||
Bermuda just lends another leg at another one. | ||
This vodka is going off the straight fucking... | ||
Bermuda's chopping at those legs. | ||
He's chopping that leg. | ||
And Roni Jason is a tough kid. | ||
I call him Roni. | ||
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I call him Roni. | |
And he needs less sun. | ||
He needs less sun to produce essential vitamin D. He could end it right here if he had a fucking anaconda show. | ||
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Stuff it. | |
Stuff that shit. | ||
He's exhausted, too. | ||
He's been in his ass. | ||
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Yeah, throw that anaconda, you fuck. | |
I like how the color of his shorts are exactly the color of his skin. | ||
So do I, buddy. | ||
It looks like he's naked. | ||
With a green tattoo. | ||
Come on, you ivory fuck. | ||
There you go. | ||
He's Brazilian too. | ||
I don't give a fuck. | ||
You ivory fuck. | ||
It's weird he's Brazilian and white as fuck. | ||
Dude, it's like he's naked. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Dude, his shorts had the black, like, crack. | ||
Hey, why can't guys wear skin? | ||
You could sublimate that. | ||
Why can't guys wear skin color shorts with fake dicks drawn in the front? | ||
Good idea. | ||
That's what I'm talking about. | ||
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I'm talking about doing a skin tight shirt. | |
With skin color, skin tight, with a dick with a snake head. | ||
Like a bikini with your dick popping out of your balls, but it's a bikini. | ||
It's sublimated. | ||
It's the sublimation of the bikini with your balls. | ||
I'm just happy you used the word sublimated correctly. | ||
I tried. | ||
Bro, I went to a Halloween party. | ||
I've never used that word ever. | ||
Sublimated. | ||
I'm not even sure what it means. | ||
It's a good word. | ||
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It was legit. | |
Sublimated is a good word. | ||
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I'm an industry. | |
It's real. | ||
It's legit. | ||
If your mind can conceive it, you can print that shit. | ||
What does that mean, sublimated? | ||
I'm going to look it up right now. | ||
He's full mouth. | ||
He's going to get his back because he's a wrestler, so he's going to turn and stand up. | ||
That's trouble, man. | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Now he has wrist control. | ||
Oh, fuck! | ||
Oh, fuck! | ||
It's over! | ||
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He got him! | |
No fucking way! | ||
He got him! | ||
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Oh! | |
No, he don't got him! | ||
His chin's tucked! | ||
His chin's tucked! | ||
God damn it! | ||
You've been beating the fuck out of him! | ||
Dude! | ||
Can Honey Jason pull it off? | ||
Standing up! | ||
Standing up! | ||
Oh, shit! | ||
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Defense! | |
Defense! | ||
Stand up! | ||
Stand up! | ||
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Spin! | |
Oh! | ||
Honey Jason drags him back to the ground! | ||
Damn seven! | ||
Body lock! | ||
You go right to that shit! | ||
Close that motherfucker! | ||
How tough is Jason, man? | ||
Oh, look at this! | ||
Leg lock! | ||
Ronny Jason is tough as neck. | ||
Critical error. | ||
Critical error. | ||
It's like he fumbled. | ||
You fucked up, son. | ||
He fumbled. | ||
So, sublimate or sublimated is to divert or modify an instinctual impulse into a culturally higher or socially more acceptable activity. | ||
But that's infant care, bro. | ||
It came up when I typed it in. | ||
You're reading Sublimate Infant Care. | ||
That's Infant Care. | ||
You're reading Infant Care too? | ||
You weren't reading the same. | ||
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That's Sublimate. | |
You were reading something different. | ||
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Sublimate. | |
So how was it used in this conversation? | ||
I don't know, but I think he used it wrong. | ||
And that's alright. | ||
I love how you said it, that's alright, that shows you're a dad. | ||
At least you tried, buddy. | ||
It's a great word. | ||
I had a brilliant thought though, you fox, and I can't remember what it was. | ||
Hey, can you share it and then let's find out what the real definition is? | ||
Sublimate in the apparel business is, now they got machines now, that you can take any picture you want and put it on material. | ||
It's not about like, oh, like those old school graphic arts type shit. | ||
Sublimate then? | ||
Sublimate. | ||
Sublimates. | ||
There's a couple other... | ||
You see rash guards? | ||
You see rash? | ||
Sublimates. | ||
No, there's a couple of different definitions here. | ||
It's a sexual one, it appears. | ||
In the apparel business, it means make rash guards about... | ||
You could take a picture and make a rash guard out of it through the sublimation process. | ||
Oh, I see. | ||
That's chemistry. | ||
It's a technology. | ||
That's why rash guards are so amazing now because of sublimation. | ||
Before sublimation, you had to do like old school graphic arts, like two color type simple logos. | ||
He's right. | ||
Now you can do anything. | ||
So there's a bunch of different definitions. | ||
Because that one was sexual in the beginning. | ||
Do we run out of noises we can make with our face? | ||
Why do we have words that mean a bunch of different shit? | ||
So people can sound smarter than others? | ||
Noises we make with our face. | ||
I mean, do we run out? | ||
Why do we have to use Sublimate for a bunch of different things? | ||
Why should it be confusing? | ||
You should be able to go to the dictionary and it's just one fucking definition. | ||
I fucking agree with that. | ||
I agree. | ||
It's so exhausting. | ||
You know? | ||
People have words like trite. | ||
That was one of those words where people are also afraid to say they don't know what it means. | ||
Trite, trite, glib. | ||
I didn't know what supplement meant. | ||
I just rolled with it. | ||
Do you know what trite means? | ||
I don't think I've ever used supplement. | ||
Trite is like ridiculous, nonsensical, not important. | ||
Dude, do you know what glib means? | ||
Yeah, because I watched the Matt Lauer, Tom Cruise interview. | ||
It was like, Matt, you're being glib. | ||
What's glib mean? | ||
What's glib mean? | ||
It means like he's dismissing something that he's not... | ||
It's like a harsh dismissal. | ||
Insincere. | ||
Insincere, thank you. | ||
Dude, Brian had to explain what cahoots meant, because I thought it meant enemies. | ||
But is it insincere, glib, when he's saying it like that? | ||
When he's saying he's being glib. | ||
I don't think he's saying he's being insincere. | ||
I think he's saying he's being... | ||
Is this the actual word of it? | ||
Public education. | ||
The person speaking fluent and voluble, but insincere and shallow. | ||
It means shallow. | ||
I didn't want to say it, but that's what it really means. | ||
Shallow. | ||
Wow. | ||
I thought it was dismissive, so I had it wrong. | ||
No, so glib would be when you're not being almost reverential to something that requires gravitas. | ||
Like us with cyborg fighting Ray Lewis. | ||
It'd be like, yeah, but basketball is just like throwing a ball into a bladder. | ||
Don't be glib, Brian. | ||
Don't be glib, Brian. | ||
That's just not a word that's in my frequent vocabulary. | ||
If we used it, it would be. | ||
Like if a girl says... | ||
Like you say sun all the time, so I say sun all the time. | ||
It's fun. | ||
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But if you use glib, I'd do it. | |
Now you're talking about two different things. | ||
That's what she went on the antidepressant for. | ||
But what happens to the antidepressant, all it does is mask the problem. | ||
There's ways of vitamins and through exercise and various things. | ||
I'm not saying that that isn't real. | ||
But aren't there examples where it works? | ||
You don't even... | ||
You're glim. | ||
You don't even know what Ritalin is. | ||
If you start talking about chemical imbalance, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories. | ||
He's kind of schooling them. | ||
He's crushing them. | ||
Whatever, Cruz. | ||
That's a dumbass... | ||
I don't think Matt Lauer is being sincere. | ||
Matt Lauer was asking him questions, and he was saying, hey, there are examples when antidepressants, you're not a fucking doctor, Tom Cruise. | ||
There are examples when they work and save lives, you fucking dummy. | ||
Stick to acting and make him believe, and that was him on a Scientology riff. | ||
Easy, bro. | ||
Brian, come on. | ||
You know what else? | ||
Just because he got to roll over, you know, you hate the guy. | ||
You're right, buddy. | ||
You're right. | ||
I'm being gloom. | ||
I'm being gloom about Tom Cruise. | ||
Don't bring up chemtrails, because that's... | ||
Oh, this is when he went full batshit crazy. | ||
I'd be dancing like this, too. | ||
I love Katie Holmes. | ||
Yeah, fuck yeah, he loves you. | ||
Yeah, he got divorced. | ||
Tell you something about that guy. | ||
You're a fan of Ritalin? | ||
I've met him twice. | ||
He's the nicest human being on the planet. | ||
You're a fan of Ritalin? | ||
What's that? | ||
Are you a fan of Ritalin? | ||
I don't know anything about Ritalin. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I'm not a fan of any medication that I don't have to give to my children, but I do think that there are certain drugs that are made by big pharmaceutical companies that save lives, that make people's lives better. | ||
I don't know, I'm not a pharmacologist, but I can give you examples of the things that I've seen with my own eyes. | ||
Listen, man, if you need antibiotics, you need fucking science. | ||
Goddamn right. | ||
What about antidepressants? | ||
If you get staph infection, you better listen to fucking doctors and not listen to some voodoo doctor. | ||
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I'm down with antidepressants. | |
Fuck yeah. | ||
Fuck that staph. | ||
So, I don't think there's an either or. | ||
Exactly. | ||
I think there's a lot of medications that do a lot of people a lot of good. | ||
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Yep. | |
And I think there's also a lot of medications that pharmaceutical companies are profiting off of people. | ||
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Correct. | |
Using them in ways that they don't need them. | ||
Exactly. | ||
Especially painkillers. | ||
I agree with that. | ||
I agree with that. | ||
And a lot of other stuff. | ||
However... | ||
Brenda, you had a fucking real issue, right? | ||
With those goddamn painkillers? | ||
Yeah, there's a rumor I was addicted to. | ||
You talked about it. | ||
You know, it's scary shit, man. | ||
Because you're a together guy. | ||
Like, to hear that you got caught in the grip of those fucking things. | ||
The most addictive thing in the world, they say. | ||
And my doctor was trying to be cool, and I was only supposed to have like 50. He's like, here's like 200, man. | ||
Just, you know, you know. | ||
Explain what it was, though. | ||
Like he was a fan. | ||
I was like, okay. | ||
But explain what they urged. | ||
They're addictive. | ||
So in what way? | ||
So when you stop using them, you're depressed. | ||
You feel itchy. | ||
So then you keep taking them. | ||
It just makes you feel better. | ||
Makes you feel better. | ||
And then you're dependent on it. | ||
So when I'd go out with my friends, I knew I had 200. So I was like, I might as well take one of those and not be all cranky and itchy and in pain. | ||
I'll just take one of those and have one beer. | ||
And it's a fun fucking night. | ||
Wow. | ||
And the next thing I know, every morning, I'm just boom, boom, boom, boom. | ||
And to my friend and brother, like, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
And they took him from me. | ||
I was talking to two pretty well-known fighters. | ||
Why? | ||
Does anyone have any in here? | ||
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Why? | |
What's up? | ||
I'm addicted to this fucking Conor McGregor, Nate Diaz countdown thing they're doing right now. | ||
Me too. | ||
I think Conor wins a decision. | ||
Goddamn, I can't wait for this fight. | ||
I think Conor wins a decision. | ||
He might. | ||
Who knows? | ||
Do you really? | ||
Yes. | ||
Nate might get him. | ||
I mean, who the fuck knows, man? | ||
All we know is Nate got him the first time they fought. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I'm just telling you in my educated opinion, I think Conor McGregor wins by decision based off that first round and more knowledgeable training. | ||
We're talking about Nate Diaz with zero training. | ||
Coming in with 11 days notice. | ||
It's a five-round fight, isn't it? | ||
He's still won. | ||
It's a five-round fight. | ||
But do you know how more comfortable Nate is going to be with a full camp than he's going to be? | ||
I mean, you just assume that given... | ||
Okay, there's psychological variables that come into play, especially when you deal with the amount of pressure that Nate is under now. | ||
You deal with the amount of press obligations he's now... | ||
Forced to attend. | ||
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More than he's ever done. | |
More than he's ever done, for sure. | ||
But he's also getting a good long stretch of time to know what kind of shape he's got to get in before the fight, right? | ||
I mean, if you thought logically, taking psychological considerations out, logically you would say, well, if he won the first fight, if he's got more time to prepare in the second fight, he's going to be even better than he was in the first fight. | ||
You could say the same thing for Conor, though. | ||
You could say he's never fought at 170 before. | ||
All he did was throw power punches. | ||
That first round, it kind of murked him. | ||
The second round, he was in trouble because he gassed and got caught. | ||
Man, if he can do in that first round for 25 minutes, he wins that fight. | ||
It's a long time. | ||
Sure. | ||
You're right. | ||
I'm just saying he can play both sides. | ||
You know, you could say he was not without success in the first fight. | ||
He had a very successful first round, and he had a very successful minute plus of the second round. | ||
Then he got in trouble. | ||
A lot of trouble. | ||
He got in trouble, and Nate started talking shit, and he started getting gassed, and he started getting dinged, and then he shot for a takedown. | ||
You know where the payday is at, right? | ||
The payday is if McGregor wins, because you're not going to have to have a three-peat. | ||
Well, the payday is if McGregor and Diaz have an old-time schlabanaka. | ||
And McGregor wins. | ||
He has to win. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Or he could have a fucking real close decision loss. | ||
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Nope. | |
He's 0-2 then. | ||
You can't do that. | ||
I am obsessed. | ||
I will not stop until I beat Nate Diaz. | ||
Because you lose two in a row in the UFC and you go, nah, bitch, go ahead and get down there. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
Not if you're a little white guy from Ireland named Conor McGregor. | ||
That's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, motherfucker. | ||
There's a leprechaun. | ||
There's your leprechaun! | ||
No, the UFC's leprechaun is the guy he's juiced to the gills. | ||
His name's Brock Lesnar. | ||
That's your leprechaun. | ||
That's the other leprechaun. | ||
That's the other leprechaun. | ||
He's way bigger. | ||
He's not your typical leprechaun. | ||
That's a different leprechaun. | ||
Who won that? | ||
Bermuda's. | ||
That's Bermuda's one. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He dominated the first two rounds. | ||
This is the main event. | ||
We haven't talked about a single fucking fight other than a few random seconds. | ||
I think we were doing great until that wine came. | ||
We went a little off the deep end when the wine came from. | ||
That's the gold ship right there. | ||
But it's not always. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Kung Fu Masters here. | ||
Come on. | ||
That is hilarious. | ||
Somebody put that up on YouTube. | ||
Who put that up on YouTube? | ||
Philly Chimp? | ||
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Philly Chimp? | |
Was that always up on YouTube? | ||
But he put it up tonight. | ||
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Someone just made a... | |
It's not even a real video. | ||
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I don't think he just made a picture. | |
That's hilarious. | ||
What is his name? | ||
What is his name? | ||
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Philly Chimp. | |
Alright, Philly Chimp. | ||
Shout out to Philly Chimp. | ||
Hey, you know Ray Lewis trained with Rashad Evans, right? | ||
We're aware of this? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Trained a bunch with him in Miami. | ||
I didn't know that. | ||
If the new owners of the UFC want to get fucking gangster, they want to get medieval, make this happen. | ||
You're too high, sir. | ||
Ray Lewis is retired. | ||
Ray Lewis is retired. | ||
He's a millionaire. | ||
It's too gangster. | ||
Cyborg has a tough fight in the next fight. | ||
No, Ray Lewis, if you want to make the fight, you make it with Hershel Walker, because he actually still fights. | ||
I'm not trying to see those two old fucks. | ||
Money can make anything happen. | ||
Hershel Walker is ready to fight. | ||
It's just a matter of millions. | ||
Here's 20 fucking million. | ||
Make it happen. | ||
Here's 20 million. | ||
Make it happen. | ||
Everyone will dance. | ||
If it was anybody else that was 50 years old that said he wanted a fight, I'd be like, man, you gotta stop. | ||
Anybody else, I would say I don't want to see that. | ||
Anybody else! | ||
If it's Hershel Walker, I'm like, where do I sign up? | ||
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You're too high, sir. | |
Where do I sign up? | ||
You're too high. | ||
No! | ||
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50's 50. You saw him when he was 47. Jacked. | |
Jacked. | ||
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I believe he was 48 in his last fight. | |
I stopped fighting at 31. Dude, but dude, Herschel Walker is a freak. | ||
He's an athletic freak. | ||
Yes, he is. | ||
Dude, do you see the video of him fighting in Strikeforce? | ||
I've watched every single fight he ever did. | ||
It is shocking. | ||
His ass would get eaten up like a fucking Asaker porno if he jumped into the UFC right now. | ||
Yeah, but he's not fighting. | ||
When I talk about the UFC, man... | ||
Oh, you're talking about like 1FC or some shit? | ||
I'm talking about him just as a freak specimen. | ||
Like, if he was going to have to fight... | ||
We were talking about Ray Lewis. | ||
Like, Ray Lewis, we know he is a wrestler, but we don't know how much martial arts experience he had. | ||
That's one, but Herschel Walker, Herschel Walker at whatever he is now, 15 years old, at 99.9% of the fucking plan are better. | ||
They better run. | ||
I agree. | ||
You better run. | ||
I agree, except for every guy in the light heavyweight division on the roster in the UFC. He's a heavyweight. | ||
Okay, even worse. | ||
Yeah. | ||
He comes to the UFC, everyone's going to go, wow, but he's 50? | ||
He's 50? | ||
I'm going to kick him on his fucking knee. | ||
He's more than 50. I think he's 52. Me too. | ||
He's one of the biggest freaks of all time. | ||
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You're 50. He might still be able to fuck a lot of guys up. | |
Show him running the 100. There's a video of him. | ||
In the UFC? When he was at world-class speed. | ||
He had world-class speed. | ||
Did you see that guy? | ||
Let's just go back a year or two. | ||
I don't even want to name a name. | ||
Think about a questionable heavyweight performance between a guy that's nowhere near the top 20. Some new guy, maybe. | ||
You don't think that Hershel Walker could fuck up some new guy? | ||
No. | ||
Not at 50. That's interesting. | ||
Watch Herschel Walker sprint. | ||
This is when he's a world-class game. | ||
No, let's see him. | ||
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Not that bad. | |
This Herschel Walker would. | ||
Let's see Strikeforce where he's stiff as fuck. | ||
See if you can get some video of Herschel Walker fighting in Strikeforce. | ||
He's so stiff, Joe. | ||
Yeah, but he's fucking strong as shit. | ||
I can't wait to see him. | ||
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Even if he's stiff, it almost doesn't matter, man. | |
Yeah. | ||
It almost doesn't matter. | ||
Dude, when you turn 50, I can't fucking. | ||
I would never fight. | ||
Look at how fast he is. | ||
Look at how fast he is. | ||
I can't wait. | ||
Dude, he's one of the biggest freaks of all time. | ||
I'm not saying that. | ||
That's like in the U.S. right now, the heavyweights would eat him alive. | ||
Yeah, the heavyweights. | ||
But they're lucky he didn't start this shit about 20 years ago. | ||
Oh, I agree. | ||
Oh, if Bo Jackson decided to do MMA, he would kick your fucking dick to Jupiter. | ||
He's a monster. | ||
Best athlete of all time. | ||
Look at Herschel Walker at 47. I think he was 48 here. | ||
Look at his body. | ||
Was he 48 here? | ||
Yeah. | ||
This is 48 here, defending the leg lock. | ||
Yeah, he'll beat your ass. | ||
They say he's a monster. | ||
That's some good defense. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Spun around instantly behind his back. | ||
And he's a super athlete. | ||
One of the best athletes of all time. | ||
I think a lot of us sort of underestimate the difference between the elite of the elites and a regular human. | ||
Even a regular trained human. | ||
Look how he just ragdolled that dude to the ground. | ||
Oh my god. | ||
Not too tired either. | ||
It doesn't look easy. | ||
Oh, dude, he's a stud. | ||
He's such a super athlete. | ||
Yes! | ||
25 years ago, amazing athlete. | ||
Didn't he win a gold medal in his Olympics? | ||
Bobsled. | ||
Let's think for a moment. | ||
Let's think for a moment. | ||
What if Customato existed in 2016 and he found a young 13-year-old Mike Tyson and brought him to Farras Ahabi? | ||
Yeah, that'd be amazing, bro. | ||
And brought him to Matt Hume. | ||
What's the question? | ||
Because freak athletes! | ||
Every now and then you get a dude, like you remember when Mike Tyson used to hit that heavy bag? | ||
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You never saw a heavyweight do that, ever. | |
Athletically, Mike Tyson couldn't handle Bo Jackson's jockstrap. | ||
If you get Bo Jackson when he's 13... | ||
We are talking about different endeavors. | ||
We don't know what Mike Tyson's athletic ability would have been if he had been playing football. | ||
What we do know is what it was when he got into boxing. | ||
And it's almost better than anybody ever in a lot of ways. | ||
And the fact that he was so short and he had this crazy style of bobbing and weaving and ripping ridiculous fucking power and speed punches at you. | ||
Let me ask you this, Joe. | ||
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Who's the best guy that he beat? | |
Probably Larry Holmes, but Larry Holmes was out of his prime. | ||
But Leon Spinks, or excuse me, Michael Spinks. | ||
Watch this, though, dude. | ||
I'm just saying, compared to other heavyweights, I don't think he's the best heavyweight. | ||
Well, it was all before he went to jail, man. | ||
But also, once he went to jail... | ||
The best guy he's beat, are old Larry Holmes or Spinks? | ||
Dude, it's the way he ran through the division. | ||
He changed the whole fucking thing. | ||
But you look at Lennox Lewis and Vander Holyfield, much more impressive. | ||
It's true. | ||
No, there's no doubt about it. | ||
Ultimately, when Lennox Lewis... | ||
Well, he beat Tyson. | ||
No, those old-school boxing shoes he used to wear. | ||
But when he beat Tyson, Tyson was an older man, and he had been in the game a long fucking time. | ||
It just wasn't the same. | ||
Once he was disconnected more and more from the original custom model crew. | ||
I'm just saying, look at the body of work compared to Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis. | ||
If you look just on paper, Mike Tyson has the scare factor. | ||
That's what we all remember. | ||
But remember, Brandon, he went out there and fucked everybody up in the first round. | ||
Nobody else was there. | ||
He didn't beat anyone. | ||
Nobody fucking had the fear. | ||
When they fought Mike Tyson, they were fucking And that's why we say he's the best. | ||
That's why you say he's the best. | ||
But if you look at it on paper, he's really not. | ||
But the reason they were scared was because he was going through everybody with one fucking punch. | ||
He was crushing everybody. | ||
Evander Holyfield wasn't scared. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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It's true. | |
Buster Douglas wasn't scared. | ||
True. | ||
It's true. | ||
But if you look at Evander Holyfield's career, he wasn't... | ||
He's a gold medalist. | ||
He wasn't shocking the world like Mike Tyson was. | ||
Mike Tyson was just... | ||
He beat Mike Tyson! | ||
Mike Tyson blew up pay-per-view. | ||
People, they were pissed that he would knock dudes out in the first round. | ||
But it's nobody's. | ||
It's nobody's if you look at it. | ||
That was the problem. | ||
Like, look, he's just going to knock them out in the first round. | ||
That was the problem. | ||
People were pissed off with the pay-per-view. | ||
Mike Tyson's just going to beat them in the first round and we're going to lose our money. | ||
Fuck! | ||
That was a problem. | ||
He created a problem. | ||
Against nobody, if you look at it, though. | ||
No, he's got points. | ||
He fucked everybody up. | ||
People were scared shitless. | ||
Name the best guy, Eddie. | ||
There was no other fighter ever that provoked that fear. | ||
You're not answering the question, Eddie Bravo. | ||
No, you're right, Eddie. | ||
You're right. | ||
He was a special force. | ||
Most scariest fighter on earth. | ||
But listen, what Brendan's talking about is like hindsight. | ||
So when Brendan's talking about it now, when you look back and you think about the guys he beat, it's very arguable that Holyfield was the superior fighter. | ||
He beat him twice. | ||
And we always want to say, well, he wasn't the same guy as when Tyson was younger. | ||
It doesn't matter. | ||
He still beat him when they got together. | ||
And Holyfield, you've got to put him on a higher level because he was able to maintain his enthusiasm for fighting way longer than most folks. | ||
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He had so many fights with Riddick Bowe. | |
Also an amateur. | ||
He won the gold. | ||
He didn't even make the team. | ||
Look at the body of work. | ||
His career was amazing. | ||
The fights he was in. | ||
But Tyson was known for going through dudes. | ||
That doesn't mean he's a better fighter. | ||
I think you have to give it to Evander because Evander beat him twice. | ||
But Tyson is one of the all-time greats. | ||
And they're both all-time greats. | ||
We're super lucky to have watched those guys fight. | ||
I agree. | ||
You know, Tyson and Holyfield, I mean, those were epic contests. | ||
It's a little bit X-Factor because you're so scared you're stalking these guys out. | ||
Boys, here we go. | ||
Here we go with the main event. | ||
I've never had the answer, but Tyson was more exciting. | ||
Main event, boys. | ||
Doesn't make you a better fighter. | ||
Here's Alex Caceres and Yair Rodriguez. | ||
What should be Tyson? | ||
Main event. | ||
Look at that perfect hook. | ||
It's better than me. | ||
Yeah, but you always got to wonder, what was the training like for Tyson then in comparison to the training when he was young? | ||
What was the mindset like? | ||
I'm a firm believer that a really elite fighter can only maintain a certain number of RPMs when they're just smashing people. | ||
They can only maintain that for a certain amount of time. | ||
The past would prove you right. | ||
You look at all fighters, throw down. | ||
But we don't realize it when they're going through it. | ||
If you look at Ronda, it's like, yeah, that's what she does. | ||
You look at Junior Dos Santos, you look at Kane, it's weird. | ||
Then you step back and go, oh, that's the run there. | ||
That's the greatest we're ever going to see him. | ||
But as it's happening, you really don't notice. | ||
I was thinking about that the other day. | ||
It's very weird. | ||
You're accustomed to it and you think that's just what they do. | ||
And then they lose like two or three. | ||
You're like, oh shit. | ||
That was it. | ||
That was the run. | ||
Those six, seven fights, which it was pure greatness. | ||
Music is like that too. | ||
Like bands that come out with their new album. | ||
But their new album is not like their old shit. | ||
Their new album is not like their old shit. | ||
But then after 15 years, that new shit is old shit. | ||
And it's all great. | ||
Guys, we're missing an amazing fight. | ||
There's an amazing fight going on right now. | ||
Watch Rodriguez. | ||
He's better. | ||
Rodriguez is going to... | ||
Rodriguez is... | ||
Caceres has fucking threatened him a few times. | ||
Rodriguez is a heavy favorite. | ||
He missed him with a spinning backfist. | ||
Caceres is too... | ||
He's athletic, but he's too... | ||
For sure spit it out. | ||
He doesn't have the fundamentals, I don't think. | ||
What are you talking about, man? | ||
He doesn't. | ||
He makes mistakes. | ||
He makes big mistakes. | ||
His hands are down. | ||
Watch. | ||
He's been getting tagged. | ||
I've been wanting to fight. | ||
They both fight with their hands down. | ||
Rodriguez is a better time. | ||
I'm with Callan on this one. | ||
When they're close, Rodriguez's hands are up. | ||
He's got better defense. | ||
Way better defense. | ||
Rodriguez is excellent. | ||
But dude, Caceres is very good. | ||
Very athletic. | ||
Very good. | ||
That's racist. | ||
He needs Brian Callen's workshop. | ||
He's not as good fundamentally. | ||
He's just not as Rodriguez. | ||
He's just not. | ||
Watch your mouth. | ||
I feel sick. | ||
I would disagree with you. | ||
I would say Caceres is very underrated. | ||
He's very crafty. | ||
Very athletic, very crafty, and watch who wins this. | ||
He's very comfortable in there. | ||
Hey, Brian, Rodriguez is a heavy favorite. | ||
Yeah, I'm not saying that... | ||
My point is, look at this beautiful leg lock attempt here by Rodriguez. | ||
I'm not saying that he's not going to win. | ||
You're saying that he doesn't have good fundamentals. | ||
I'm not being insulting to Caceres. | ||
What I'm saying is that I just watched the first minute, guys, and I saw him make big mistakes where he's coming in and throwing and being really athletic by getting caught in the face by a guy who's a better counterpuncher. | ||
I don't see that, and I fought for eight years. | ||
Well, I did, because you weren't watching. | ||
You were talking the whole time. | ||
No, I can't watch that off any fight. | ||
Are you a fan of Caceres? | ||
Have you ever watched him fight before? | ||
I have. | ||
Have you ever seen his fight with Sergio Pettis? | ||
He's great! | ||
What happened in the fight with Sergio Pettis? | ||
I didn't see that fight. | ||
He beat him. | ||
He was the first guy to beat him. | ||
I'm not saying he's not really good. | ||
I'm saying he doesn't have the fundamentals to fight in the UFC. Alex Kinceras is... | ||
Listen to me right now and don't ever say anything different. | ||
Compared to Rodriguez. | ||
Brian, please. | ||
Alex Kinceras is a bad motherfucker. | ||
I never said he wasn't. | ||
Yair Rodriguez is a bad motherfucker. | ||
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They all have fundamentals. | |
The fight is happening right now, you fuck! | ||
Hey, hey, I said Rodriguez has better fundamentals. | ||
That's what I said. | ||
You said he has no fundamentals. | ||
I didn't say that. | ||
You see how he evaded that high kick and then it was a side kick? | ||
Look how he's evading everything. | ||
Stop trying to control my eyeballs. | ||
Brian, Caceres is very good. | ||
Of course he's very good! | ||
I said he's not as good as Bermudez! | ||
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He's not fighting Bermudez, you fuck! | |
His fundamentals are not as good as Rodriguez or Bermudez! | ||
You didn't say that! | ||
Not Bermudez, you fuck! | ||
Sorry, man! | ||
Look at that! | ||
Jumping double round kick! | ||
Great takedown! | ||
Good fundamentals! | ||
Oh my god! | ||
There it is! | ||
Look at the fundamental grip! | ||
We're like a bunch of children! | ||
We're the example of how not to behave when you're on a live podcast. | ||
It's so true. | ||
What about those shorts? | ||
Are those going to be illegalized? | ||
Shorts are great. | ||
I don't think they're an issue for men. | ||
I think it's an issue for women, at least as far as what I read. | ||
But I loosely looked over it. | ||
See if you can find it, Jamie, what the new regulation is about women's clothing. | ||
Imagine if I just made that up. | ||
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Joe doesn't say anything about women's privilege. | |
Somebody put something in my coffee, bro. | ||
That's what someone said, man. | ||
This is fucked, bro. | ||
What does the loose shit do for us? | ||
It's doing nothing. | ||
Bermudez is good, man. | ||
No, no. | ||
It's because of wardrobe malfunctions. | ||
It's Rodriguez, Brian. | ||
Someone's butt was hanging out recently. | ||
Maybe I was talking about the fight before. | ||
Maybe I was thinking about Bermudez just now. | ||
Oh, Caceres. | ||
Powerful Sugar Ray Leonard is still fucking whacking that bag. | ||
He'll still fuck you up. | ||
In Skechers. | ||
You eat your ass whooped by getting Skechers. | ||
He's already wearing socks. | ||
Imagine if he's wearing Birkenstocks with socks and beat the fuck out of it. | ||
He could, too. | ||
He could. | ||
That's George Hamilton. | ||
That's George Hamilton. | ||
Wait a minute. | ||
Do you guys want some cheese? | ||
Wait a minute. | ||
Hold on, hold on. | ||
What do you mean that's George Hamilton? | ||
I believe that would be George Hamilton doing Kentucky Fried Chicken. | ||
Wait a minute. | ||
He's Colonel Sanders now? | ||
What happened to Norm MacDonald? | ||
No, it's Norm MacDonald. | ||
Nope, that was not. | ||
That was George Hamilton. | ||
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They've had like five different ones recently. | |
What? | ||
Yeah, there's one per commercial kind of. | ||
Oh, they're getting crafty. | ||
It doesn't take place until January 1st, it says, too. | ||
Joe, if they give you a million dollars, would you be Colonel Sanders? | ||
Just for one campaign. | ||
Just only three months. | ||
Let me think about it. | ||
I like chicken. | ||
Female competitors must wear a short-sleeved above-the-elbow or sleeveless form-fitting rash guard and or sports bra. | ||
No loose-fitting tops are allowed. | ||
Female competitors will follow the same requirements for bottom coverings as the male competitors. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
So they only have to have a tight-fitting upper top. | ||
Because, did anybody ever have a loose-fitting upper top? | ||
You can't have your titties slinging around. | ||
But did anybody, did they just want to cover their ass with that? | ||
Is that what that was? | ||
Nobody, but it was never an issue, right? | ||
It happened recently. | ||
Someone's, like, their bra got fucked up and she had to look at the ref while something was happening. | ||
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was... | ||
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Riguez! | |
Riguez! | ||
Doing cartwheels! | ||
His taekwondo's off the charts! | ||
This shows you that Taekwondo is the shit. | ||
Brian, you sound like a guy acting like a commentator in a movie right there. | ||
His Taekwondo is off the charts! | ||
It's like the Karate Kid 7. Did I just say off the charts? | ||
I've never said off the charts in my life. | ||
I've never said off the charts in my life and I just did. | ||
It's coming back. | ||
For sure, just don't talk. | ||
Dude, that's fucked up. | ||
I can't stop laughing thinking of Joe doing the KFC commercials. | ||
Would you do it for a certain price, Joe? | ||
Probably not now that you guys brought it up. | ||
It can't happen. | ||
Dude, Jair Rodriguez is throwing some fucking whipping kicks. | ||
Yeah, man. | ||
His fundamentals are so sound. | ||
Dude, tell me, look how good Caceres' defense is, man. | ||
Caceres is a very good athlete. | ||
He's a beautiful young man. | ||
At what point does the afro become like a hindrance? | ||
Never. | ||
Cushion. | ||
Cushion for those fucking hard round kicks in the back of the head. | ||
I wonder how much of a cushion that is. | ||
He just did a backhand. | ||
He punched his knee and then came up with a backhand. | ||
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Wow. | |
You know what? | ||
The refs will probably allow Kits to the back of the head. | ||
These guys are both really fucking good. | ||
This is a five round fight, boys. | ||
Rodriguez is really trying to end the show. | ||
This is incredible. | ||
George Hampton is the new Colonel Sanders. | ||
I called it. | ||
How many colonels are there going to be, Jamie? | ||
You know they have to do a black one, right? | ||
Yair's going to spin. | ||
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What about a Mexican one? | |
That too. | ||
Dude, you can't just have one like that all the time. | ||
Oh, Twizzer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Mix it up. | ||
It's racist. | ||
Yeah, I should definitely go with black Colonel Sanders. | ||
Yeah, right? | ||
That would be the best way to sell chicken. | ||
Except the real Colonel Sanders. | ||
The real Colonel Sanders is white. | ||
Listen, have a black guy take over the Colonel Sanders and have it be like a D.L. Hughley character who just makes fun of white people. | ||
And that's the new Colonel Sanders image. | ||
Like a hilarious black stand-up comedian. | ||
What if Joey took it over? | ||
Tony Robbins does a thing about Colonel Sanders. | ||
He wouldn't do it. | ||
He wouldn't do it. | ||
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Could he do it? | |
No. | ||
He would demand some sort of Latino name. | ||
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If they gave him one up money, they gave him a thick envelope of just fucking this. | |
Would someone think that it would be racist if you got a guy, like if you paid a hilarious stand-up comedian? | ||
Like Kevin Hart? | ||
He's too valuable. | ||
He probably wouldn't do it. | ||
What if Damon Wayans? | ||
I'm not going to be rude. | ||
Let's come up with someone... | ||
Richard Pryor? | ||
No, some non-real person. | ||
But if you were a pretty decent stand-up comedian, really funny guy, and they were willing to pay you to be the new black Colonel Sanders, and you had a bunch of jokes where you only made fun of white people. | ||
Martin Lawrence. | ||
You would kill. | ||
That would be a great idea. | ||
He could do it. | ||
What is this? | ||
KFC taps David Allen Greer as the first African American. | ||
I fucking knew it! | ||
Get the fuck out of here! | ||
That's great. | ||
Oh my god, that's hilarious! | ||
Now the white guy is so funny. | ||
I love Panda Express. | ||
That guy's hilarious. | ||
That is so funny. | ||
David Allen Greer is so fucking funny. | ||
We knew it. | ||
But that's hilarious. | ||
We were just speculating. | ||
Meanwhile, this is actually a real thing. | ||
Oh, because it has to be. | ||
That is just... | ||
Alex Caceres coming on strong. | ||
Yair Rodriguez. | ||
Welcome to Deep Waters. | ||
Alex with no fundamentals. | ||
Gordon and Brian Callen coming on strong. | ||
I never said he... | ||
Hey Alex, he's going to hear this. | ||
Caceres, I never said you didn't have fundamentals. | ||
You're an amazing fighter. | ||
You said he had bad fundamentals. | ||
Just not as good as Rodriguez. | ||
I don't remember what you said, but I just want to be really honest about this. | ||
He probably should have stopped. | ||
Somewhere in the middle. | ||
I know you feel it too, right? | ||
Like you got on a roll and you were defending your position. | ||
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No, I gotta defend. | |
I gotta keep defending. | ||
I'm going down. | ||
And you know that Brendan knows more than you. | ||
Nope, I'm gonna die. | ||
You know that he's right and that Caceres is obviously handling himself in this fight against one of the most dangerous guys in the division. | ||
I'm going down. | ||
And getting his own shots in as well. | ||
I don't know about that, dude. | ||
Yair is a fucking beast. | ||
Look at the defense of Caceres, dude. | ||
I can't agree with you, bro. | ||
Can't agree with you. | ||
And I'll tell you something else. | ||
Those are two body shots. | ||
Damn, he came at him with three straight strikes. | ||
I told you. | ||
Daniel Alan Greer will not be the first Colonel Sanders. | ||
Oh, it's a lie. | ||
He backed out. | ||
He tweeted it? | ||
David Alan Greer. | ||
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He's trying to jump in the pot and he doesn't have a fucking contract? | |
You know what he did? | ||
He was joking. | ||
No, he's honeydicking. | ||
Was he honeydicking? | ||
Hoping KFC would be like, yeah, that's a great idea. | ||
That is a great idea. | ||
Instead, KFC's race is fucked, like, absolutely not. | ||
I would like to volunteer to make fun of white people. | ||
If he gets that job, I will help. | ||
I will help write some jokes. | ||
I'll buy the chicken. | ||
That could get ugly. | ||
You gotta keep it white. | ||
That could get ugly. | ||
No, it'd get great. | ||
Well, Popeyes does it, kind of. | ||
I can't wait. | ||
You gotta keep it white. | ||
I can't wait until all fried chicken places just make fun of white people so I can eat fried chicken with zero guilt. | ||
Zero guilt. | ||
Feel comfortable. | ||
Just mock all whiteness. | ||
I'll take it for that delicious chicken. | ||
Yeah, I'll take it. | ||
I'll go through some shit to get that chicken. | ||
I'm sorry things are the way they are. | ||
I'm surprised the afro hasn't come back. | ||
I didn't mean for anything anybody that looks like me did in the past. | ||
I don't know those fucking people. | ||
I have nothing to do with it. | ||
I don't agree with it. | ||
I don't agree with it at all. | ||
Now I'll take a two-piece with a biscuit. | ||
Just make fun of white people and give me some chicken. | ||
Make fun of white people. | ||
Anybody, please. | ||
Let's level this playing field. | ||
I'll roast them with you guys. | ||
It's a disgusting thing that something as delicious as fried chicken isn't somehow or any way racist. | ||
Everybody should be able to freely enjoy it. | ||
Dude, I love grape drink. | ||
I love a nice grape soda. | ||
Try getting one of those these days. | ||
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For real, there is a... | |
I'm not being racist. | ||
I'm not trying to be funny. | ||
Try drinking a grape soda and just being cool as a white guy. | ||
I had some buttermilk fried chicken in a restaurant in Atlanta. | ||
It was so goddamn good. | ||
That's not racist. | ||
It was so goddamn good. | ||
I had it two years ago, and I never forgot it. | ||
Fried chicken's incredible. | ||
It's so good. | ||
Fried chicken? | ||
How about there's a movie theater? | ||
Oh, white people make Chick-fil-A chicken. | ||
But this wasn't Chick-fil-A chicken. | ||
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No, how about this? | |
This is like a gourmet restaurant made fried chicken. | ||
That's what I'm saying, though. | ||
Old school way. | ||
Well, I was just thinking in my head. | ||
I was having a conversation again. | ||
But KFC, Popeyes, right? | ||
It's kind of, you know. | ||
Right. | ||
And then Chick-fil-A is owned by Mormons. | ||
That's why they shut down, right? | ||
No, it's not the Mormons. | ||
There's some kind of crazy Christians, right? | ||
Why people can like chicken, too? | ||
But how about this? | ||
How about there's a... | ||
I don't want to mention your name. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
You guys are missing a great fight here. | ||
It's teeing off on Caseros. | ||
Yeah, because it's fundamental. | ||
It's fundamental. | ||
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It's so good. | |
Have you ever had that chicken baguette at the Arclight with watermelon barbecue sauce? | ||
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Have I had it? | |
I've lived it. | ||
Oh, nice left hand by Rodriguez. | ||
Yeah, that's racist. | ||
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With watermelon barbecue sauce at Arclight. | |
Rodriguez is... | ||
Have you ever had that? | ||
I sure haven't. | ||
Rodriguez's style. | ||
They close on Sunday because Christian believes. | ||
What about his style? | ||
His style requires a lot of exploding. | ||
His style is all leaping forward and leaping back and moving forward fast. | ||
There's a lot of serious explosions. | ||
It's fun to watch, man. | ||
No, it's great. | ||
It's great, but what I'm saying is like it takes a really high level of fitness to fight this style because he's doing essentially like wrestling, but like with all these plyometrics built into it, you know? | ||
He's like leaping forward and backward. | ||
Where's Alex Strain? | ||
Remember this is in Utah, so the elevation's high, but Rodriguez comes from Albuquerque, so it's not gonna be as high as Albuquerque. | ||
So I'd assume later in rounds it's gonna favor Rodriguez if you think about that. | ||
But he's also been teeing off. | ||
He's doing crazy stuff. | ||
How do you train for a guy like that? | ||
I know that Caceres is from John Crouch's camp, and they do do some training up in the mountains. | ||
That's in Arizona, yeah. | ||
Yeah, they go into those Arizona mountains. | ||
Arizona does have mountains, and a lot of people don't realize it. | ||
So fucked. | ||
Hey, Brendan, when he throws this right, the way his head's going all the way to the side like that, that's a really interesting thing. | ||
Is that normal? | ||
I didn't see it. | ||
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Joe, did you see it? | |
Watch him throw this right, and he ducks his head. | ||
See what he's doing? | ||
Who? | ||
His head. | ||
Caceres? | ||
No, Rodriguez. | ||
Rodriguez. | ||
Really interesting. | ||
He keeps punching the knee. | ||
You'll see him go down, he punches the knee. | ||
Oh, is that what he's doing? | ||
Damn. | ||
Although if Alex threw a fucking knee, he'd be in trouble. | ||
But he's all the way to the side when he does it. | ||
Watch. | ||
What was that last one, was it? | ||
See what he's doing? | ||
It's knowing when you can do something, too. | ||
It's like knowing when your opponent is leaning his weight backwards and being able to time it right. | ||
Or knowing when he's committing to one side or another side and being able to anticipate it and time it. | ||
It's a very one-sided fight right now. | ||
Very one-sided. | ||
Fun fight, though. | ||
Yeah, but one-sided, really? | ||
Brian, you're so connected. | ||
Help me out with this. | ||
Just think about what I'm saying. | ||
You're so connected to your previous statement that you're not willing to enjoy this fight as it plays out. | ||
No, sir. | ||
You're wrong. | ||
You're wanting this fight. | ||
Alex is tearing him up right now. | ||
Alex just hit him with a beautiful knee to the body and a nice combination before that. | ||
He's not dominating. | ||
There was a good shot. | ||
Rodriguez isn't dominating. | ||
I see a very even fight. | ||
It's amazing. | ||
Rodriguez is winning. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Oh! | ||
Caceres just rang that bell, son! | ||
It might be changing a little bit here, guys. | ||
Brian, please, just listen to your voice. | ||
The instinct in the back of your head is telling you right now to shut the fuck up. | ||
No. | ||
He doesn't have that. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
Because, no, I'm saying Rodriguez so far in round... | ||
Oh! | ||
Has been winning this fight handily. | ||
Now it looks like, yes. | ||
Brian, you sound like a guy in a movie. | ||
Hey, Brian. | ||
Handily? | ||
Because I use the word handedly. | ||
Is it handily or handedly? | ||
Triangle attempt. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Rolling knee bar. | ||
Pull it. | ||
Oh, step. | ||
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Roll. | |
Roll. | ||
Slippery, slippery, slippery third round. | ||
Rodriguez is good. | ||
Oh, yeah, man. | ||
So is Alex Caceres, who's on top, bitch! | ||
They need a real Mexican guy as a champ, as a big star. | ||
Leg lock again, leg lock again! | ||
What about that first round? | ||
Caceres is hard to deal with. | ||
I will admit that, man. | ||
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Fuck this. | |
I'm thinking about that first round. | ||
He's making fun of you right now, Brian. | ||
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Whatever Eddie and Joe. | |
He's beating up Yair Rodriguez and he's making fun of you. | ||
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I'm ignoring your bait because I see the hook. | |
Guess who's winning this fight right now? | ||
Alex Caceres is winning. | ||
If this is a schoolyard fight and they pulled Alex Caceres off right now, everyone would agree that Alex Caceres won. | ||
Alex wants to be where he's at right now. | ||
He does not want to be right there. | ||
Eddie Bravo is being sarcastic, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
If you didn't know Eddie, you would assume he's on your side. | ||
It's called honeydicking. | ||
This is a good fight. | ||
You know what you're doing. | ||
Caceres won that round. | ||
I'll give it to him. | ||
He won one round. | ||
It's probably 2-1, but it's close. | ||
Please don't judge fights ever for fear of your own life. | ||
For your safety. | ||
2-1. | ||
I know the fans listening are going to back me up on this. | ||
I guess you're the... | ||
Well, it's 2-1. | ||
I agree with you there. | ||
But I guess... | ||
You're in the circle of trust here so you can judge the fights. | ||
Thanks, buddy. | ||
You know what? | ||
And I agree with you. | ||
That first round, he did win. | ||
First and second, buddy. | ||
First and second. | ||
He's catching him a lot. | ||
That's a nice straight left hand. | ||
Let me know how Caceres is a loose. | ||
Caceres is not touching. | ||
That didn't hit. | ||
That was beautiful. | ||
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He did, though. | |
He did. | ||
He's not touching. | ||
He's not really hitting. | ||
Look at this. | ||
Even there. | ||
Hit him there, man. | ||
Boom. | ||
Hit him there. | ||
A little bit. | ||
A little bit. | ||
He's caught a bump right there. | ||
He's caught. | ||
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Yeah. | |
A little cut, deal with a cut, you know what I mean? | ||
Brian, that was one highlight from a more than a minute of ground and pound when he was on top. | ||
A little cut, no big deal. | ||
It was more than a minute. | ||
When I get cut, I go a little cut. | ||
Two minutes, probably. | ||
I'm not exactly sure how much time it went by. | ||
It was around two minutes. | ||
But he beat him up on the ground for at least a minute. | ||
Beat him up is a strong statement. | ||
You're being very strong. | ||
You're being strong. | ||
You're being a little strong. | ||
Look at that beautiful round kick that Rodriguez has. | ||
He whips it, man. | ||
It's like a fucking weapon. | ||
Look at him. | ||
He's so quick. | ||
See what he's doing when he's ducking his head like that? | ||
It's interesting. | ||
I haven't seen a lot of people throw rights that way. | ||
He's obviously like super fit because he's recovered from that grapple fest. | ||
He keeps exploding. | ||
Super fit. | ||
With his style, you'd have to be. | ||
You'd have to be a cardio machine with that style. | ||
Yeah, you have to be so ready to explode for five rounds. | ||
He's connecting. | ||
I would love to talk to him about like what kind of protocol he follows like for strength and conditioning because he's like all this is so fast like he's relying like a lot of his moves are like counter moves and like oh! | ||
His angles though he keeps catching it's really interesting. | ||
Well, they both have really good angles, man. | ||
Yeah, they do. | ||
I'm telling you, Caceres, you're looking at that afro and you're going, this guy's silly. | ||
I'm not. | ||
I respect him. | ||
He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
He's an amazing athlete and a great fighter. | ||
Rodriguez is actually better. | ||
He's also a really cool dude. | ||
Oh, look at this, though. | ||
Alex Caceres is a really cool dude. | ||
I'm not being in any way. | ||
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Bruce Leroy. | |
I don't think I'm being in any way. | ||
He's one of the nicest, friendliest dudes. | ||
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He's awesome. | |
I love watching him dance on the way to his fights, too. | ||
I loved when he came out in the Bruce Lee jumpsuit. | ||
The yellow and black. | ||
That shit was so sick. | ||
He looks like Jim and Kelly. | ||
He was fun. | ||
It's awesome when you guys talk over each other. | ||
Look at that. | ||
The count, I mean, Rodriguez has landed a lot more shots, but Caceres is so tough. | ||
What was that? | ||
Is that an assessment? | ||
Is this 55 or is this 45? | ||
Are you uncomfortable if no one's talking to me? | ||
It just feels weird when no one's talking, right? | ||
Yair, he's so good on the outside, but Caceres has an excellent idea of distance. | ||
He's connecting when he's moving forward in particular, but Caceres is able to avoid a lot of the shit that Yair's throwing. | ||
Bro, I can't get fried chicken out of my mind. | ||
Love it. | ||
Love fried chicken, man. | ||
It's one of the problems with going keto. | ||
Someone have a keto fried chicken? | ||
Well, can't you do it with like... | ||
It's goddamn delicious. | ||
Oh, fuck. | ||
Well, what we could do, you get chicken and just rip the skin off. | ||
Listen, it doesn't have to be fried. | ||
Let me tell you something about this fucking place, this Cuban joint in Encino, California. | ||
What's it called? | ||
Oh my god, what is that joint called? | ||
There's a place on Versailles. | ||
Dude, Versailles everywhere, son. | ||
Oh, son. | ||
They're in Venice. | ||
I know, there's a couple of them. | ||
I've only been to one. | ||
The Cuban spot with the onions and chicken? | ||
Oh my god, the chicken there. | ||
They have this garlic chicken with onions. | ||
Holy shit, dude. | ||
It's keto-friendly? | ||
Holy shit. | ||
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No! | |
Look at this. | ||
I'm sure it's not. | ||
It might be. | ||
I'll have to drink the sugar in the sauce. | ||
Hey, who cares if it's fried chicken? | ||
If it's fried chicken, fuck off and eat it. | ||
It's not fried, I don't think. | ||
I think it's broiled. | ||
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Whatever. | |
Eat the fried chicken and fuck off. | ||
I'm telling you these Cubans are masters of the chicken. | ||
I'm house-watering. | ||
They're masters of this lemon garlic chicken with onions. | ||
And they smother it with onions. | ||
I mean smother it with like barely seared onions. | ||
I love a nice onion. | ||
Are you ever gonna not be keto now that you've done it? | ||
Are you that much of a convert? | ||
I think it's very beneficial for your health. | ||
Is that it right there? | ||
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Yeah. | |
Ooh, beautiful. | ||
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Do you eat that? | |
Oh, look at that plantain! | ||
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Oh, sure. | |
Do you eat sweet potatoes, Joe? | ||
Black beans and rice. | ||
Yeah, I had a yam today. | ||
And you'll eat black beans as well? | ||
Yeah, you know what, man? | ||
I follow more than it's ketogenic. | ||
I follow the primal diet. | ||
Can you do rice? | ||
Very little, man. | ||
I just think that your body should, at the most, get a certain amount of... | ||
Some people think it's 25 grams of sugar. | ||
They think that's probably the most important one. | ||
Forget about carbohydrates. | ||
The real important one, in terms of your own health, is never allowing yourself to get over 25 grams of sugar a day. | ||
For most people, that's not even a single glass of soda. | ||
That's hard for people to deal with. | ||
Fruit, too, if you just shit a load of fruit. | ||
I think that's smart, though. | ||
It's a big part of Mark Sisson's ideas. | ||
Mark Sisson said you need black beans? | ||
You can't eat mayonnaise. | ||
No, you're not really supposed to. | ||
You could fuck around with it a little bit every now and then, but it shouldn't be a primary part of your diet. | ||
What you want to do is get your body comfortable with eating a lot of avocados, a lot of flaxseed oil, coconut oil, healthy fats. | ||
Guacamole. | ||
If you're getting protein, you don't want to get too much protein. | ||
You want to have a good, healthy amount of lean animal protein. | ||
You guys gotta watch this fight. | ||
You have to watch this fight. | ||
You simply have to. | ||
You don't have to do anything, bro. | ||
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Come on, out of respect for these amazing fighters. | |
Some guy came up to me at the UFC and said, hey man, can I get your picture? | ||
I'm a keto kid. | ||
I said, no. | ||
No. | ||
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You said no? | |
No. | ||
Think for yourself, you fuck. | ||
You can't tell me you're a keto kid. | ||
I'm kidding, man. | ||
At my show at Oxfam, I had a bunch of keto kid t-shirts. | ||
I take pictures with everybody. | ||
I'm kidding. | ||
That's so funny. | ||
No, you can't, sir. | ||
No. | ||
You're not the keto kid. | ||
Shut the fuck up. | ||
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No. | |
No. | ||
A dude did say that to me at the UFC, but I was running back from taking a leak. | ||
It was in between fights. | ||
I like the idea of 25 grams of sugar. | ||
That's a really good marker. | ||
Hey B, how about at our last show? | ||
I had an old Swinger Swinger couple ask me to go back to the hotel. | ||
They wanted me to slang dick while he watched with his old ass wife. | ||
Sounds like a good idea if you're disgusted with your life and you want to kill yourself soon. | ||
I said, bitch, you gotta be crazy. | ||
You gotta be fucking crazy. | ||
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I just need something really fucking gross to push me over the edge. | |
I just need one more thing where I'm just super disgusted with myself. | ||
Go with it. | ||
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It's gonna work. | |
Trust me. | ||
As long as you're not, you will kill yourself. | ||
Are you sure? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Just fuck her in the ass. | ||
She never cleans her ass. | ||
She doesn't shave her asshole either. | ||
She's from the 60s. | ||
They didn't even know that assholes had hair. | ||
Look at these guys. | ||
Look at these guys. | ||
Fifth round hugging. | ||
I love these guys. | ||
These are men. | ||
These are men. | ||
Brian keeps showing reverence in this encounter. | ||
Well, they're hugging each other, man. | ||
These guys are warriors. | ||
Putting it all out there. | ||
Please shut the fuck up. | ||
Sorry. | ||
Cliche machine. | ||
There's nothing worse. | ||
Hey, you're not on set of the Warriors. | ||
These guys are leaving it out here in the ring, guys. | ||
Next on G.I. Joe. | ||
These guys are sweating. | ||
You should narrate G.I. Joe. | ||
Did you call me a cliche warrior? | ||
You should narrate like a children's show about war. | ||
He's never been so into watching a fight. | ||
These men are all sinews and will, guys. | ||
Here I am, in Warrior, me and Sam Sheridan. | ||
And Eric Apple. | ||
Powerful Eric Apple. | ||
I like Eric Apple. | ||
He's a good dude. | ||
Sinews and will. | ||
You know, Eric Apple had his wrist broke so many times. | ||
I think, I'm going to do this injustice, but I think they had to shorten one of his wrists because he shattered it so badly. | ||
Broke his neck, too. | ||
And they told him, like, there's no way you'll ever be able to punch. | ||
He's like, yeah, whatever, I'm fighting. | ||
He's like, he fought with this thing. | ||
Badass BMXer and badass MMAer. | ||
He's a fun dude. | ||
When we were doing Warrior, he went and got an x-ray because his neck was all fucked up, and he broke his neck. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
Yep. | ||
He's like, oh, my neck broke. | ||
Sounds like a complete lie, but Jesus Christ. | ||
I had a chance to hang out with that dude in England. | ||
He's a good dude. | ||
When you're with people on the road, Eddie, you came with us, right, Eddie? | ||
Wasn't it in England we all hung out together? | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
Why talk about this? | ||
Because Sarah's on the town. | ||
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I don't remember one England trip from the next. | |
I know, there were so many of them. | ||
There's been like ten. | ||
Caceres on top. | ||
Oh, Hammerfist. | ||
Javier Rodriguez working for the leg. | ||
Working for the leg. | ||
Oh my god! | ||
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful job using the leg lock. | ||
This is a great fight, man. | ||
Look at this, Omoplata. | ||
Not so good, though. | ||
These guys are using it maybe to sweep, get past the right leg. | ||
Oh, back up to your feet! | ||
Are you kidding me with this fight? | ||
Are you kidding me with this fight? | ||
Wow, Brian, you really should be in an ABC after school special. | ||
You should be the host for the next Gladiator. | ||
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Fucking... | |
Here's Turbo! | ||
Whoa! | ||
Look at him go! | ||
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It's a free country and I can express myself as I see fit. | |
My word! | ||
What the fuck is going on? | ||
Uh-oh, hold on. | ||
Time out, guys. | ||
We gotta time you fucks. | ||
Hold on. | ||
Any boring fight, Brian's going to bring into entertainment. | ||
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Wow! | |
He's perfect. | ||
You're going to turn into the play-by-play guy. | ||
I'm not bad, right? | ||
You're going to turn into the Mike Goldberg. | ||
I should be the third guy in the Rogan Goldberg. | ||
Joe would kill him. | ||
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No, you've got to be the number one guy or the play-by-play guy here. | |
I think so too, buddy. | ||
You would definitely get your ass kicked. | ||
Someone's going to beat your ass. | ||
It's going to be a matter of time. | ||
Just a matter of time. | ||
You're going to be like, Dad, I didn't mean that. | ||
I mean, you're a warrior. | ||
I mean, that's what I mean. | ||
Is that your Brian Callen impression? | ||
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Terrible Brian Callen impression. | |
That's you trying to save your life. | ||
The fuck? | ||
Because some guy's about to beat the fuck out of you. | ||
And they go, holy shit, fuck that. | ||
Because he challenged his fundamentals. | ||
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I've never heard anybody that could do you. | |
Pow, pow, pow. | ||
I've never heard one. | ||
I've never seen him immature. | ||
Nobody can do Joe, right? | ||
It can be done. | ||
It's not that good. | ||
You're so out there and you're so pronounced and you got like such a character, but nobody could do you. | ||
I could do Joe. | ||
If I worked at it, I could do Joe. | ||
Let me see you do it right now, Brian. | ||
Look out! | ||
I just feel super uncomfortable with these big fights going on right now, boys. | ||
Oh, yeah, you're with the right hand! | ||
Alex Caceres is a sweet defense. | ||
Caceres is going to take crazy, crazy punches to the fa-fa-fa-fa face. | ||
It's the afro. | ||
The fa-che. | ||
I love his afro. | ||
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Imagine if it was. | |
Imagine if the afro did actually protect you in some way. | ||
It might. | ||
Do you think it does? | ||
People want Kimbo to cut his beard. | ||
Remember that? | ||
They want Kimbo to cut his beard because they said a guillotine or a punch on the chin. | ||
It was cushion it. | ||
There's an argument for chokes. | ||
It does get in the way. | ||
Yeah, for sure. | ||
Makes it a little more difficult to navigate. | ||
And a little harder to close up. | ||
Correct. | ||
But I wonder if that's a lot of hair. | ||
That would act as cushion, don't you think? | ||
But meanwhile, Kimbo Slice had a fucking magnificent beard, though. | ||
Amazing beard. | ||
I mean, for the sake of the people, you gotta let him have that beard. | ||
You're gonna ask him to fucking cut it? | ||
No, hell no. | ||
It's like asking Chuck Norris to shave his mustache. | ||
Look at Rodriguez, you guys. | ||
Yeah, and look at Alex Cacero's coming out strong. | ||
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No, he's missing, but he's awesome. | |
Rodriguez is... | ||
Oh, beautiful combination there, both guys. | ||
They are both amazing. | ||
This is an amazing fight. | ||
A couple of men. | ||
A couple of men. | ||
But see, this is my question about Yair Rodriguez's style. | ||
It's almost never been employed like all these kind of kicks. | ||
It's almost never been employed this way for five rounds. | ||
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See that shit? | |
Yeah. | ||
What's the question? | ||
He's doing stuff that takes a lot of energy, right? | ||
A lot of it is jumping and leaping. | ||
He's not doing a lot of damage, though, is he? | ||
He's not a damaged guy. | ||
He's fighting a really skillful guy. | ||
I mean, he did damage to Andre Feely in his last fight. | ||
He knocked him out with a jumping roundhouse. | ||
True, but before that, it's two decisions. | ||
So good. | ||
Yeah, but he's fighting tough guys, man. | ||
And he's still doing serious combos. | ||
Look at that shit! | ||
Look at that shit! | ||
Wow, what a fight. | ||
Wow, what a fight. | ||
What studs. | ||
What studs. | ||
That was a great fight. | ||
Raise his arms. | ||
Studs. | ||
Alex Caceres is a good dude. | ||
He is, but he lost that fight. | ||
I was definitely not scoring that fight, and I know I was scoring it more than you were. | ||
No, no, no, no. | ||
There's no question that the only fight, the only round Caceres won was one round. | ||
And that's no disrespect to Caceres because... | ||
I shouldn't be talking right now. | ||
It's no disrespect. | ||
It's just that Rodriguez is amazing. | ||
He's amazing. | ||
God. | ||
There was that one round that Caceres seemed to be winning, right? | ||
At least. | ||
Oh, for sure. | ||
Yes. | ||
We could probably give him two. | ||
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He lost the fight. | |
But I will tell you for sure. | ||
Three-two, at least. | ||
I will tell you for sure. | ||
I definitely wasn't paying attention. | ||
No, I wouldn't put money on it. | ||
I wouldn't put money on it. | ||
Me neither. | ||
Listen, you guys, I didn't miss a round or a second of that fight. | ||
It is super interesting, the concept of adjusting and changing how fights are scored and the new criteria for a 10-8 round. | ||
That could also be a giant new issue. | ||
Especially in three-round fights. | ||
You're talking about a game-changer. | ||
The guy has to get a finish, basically, to win. | ||
Well, think of those two new moves, just the two new moves that we know. | ||
The new hands-down position, being like, in order to be where you're off-bounds for head kicks or knees to the ground, you have to have both hands flat, palms flat on the ground. | ||
Anything else, even the tips of your fingers, a guy could punt you in the face. | ||
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You know what he's saying, B? So remember, if a guy just had one down, you couldn't touch him. | ||
Yes. | ||
Now, and remember they do this, they do this thing, now you have to have both down. | ||
Now a guy can knee you in the face, a guy can kick you in the face. | ||
Damn, that's a huge difference. | ||
So those two changes, and then the new change, the criteria of how to score 10-8 rounds, they're establishing clearer understanding of what does and does not constitute a 10-8 round. | ||
And I think that's always going to be open to people's judgment. | ||
You'd have to kill a motherfucker to get a 10-8 back in the day now. | ||
Yeah, I've had some ridiculous conversations with people about what does and does not constitute a 10-9 round or a 10-8 round. | ||
Explain how that works in boxing. | ||
Yair won. | ||
Yeah, of course. | ||
Powerful Yair Rodriguez and powerful Eric Scaceres. | ||
He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
Great fight. | ||
Great fight. | ||
In boxing, all you got to do is knock a guy down and unless you completely... | ||
Like, say if a guy like Andre Ward is beating your fucking ass all around the ring for two minutes and 56 seconds. | ||
Is that 155 or 170? | ||
Split decision. | ||
Oh, this is 145. 145? | ||
Yeah. | ||
So if a guy like Andre Ward's beating the fuck out of you for two minutes and 50 seconds and then you just close your eyes and swing and catch him on the chin and he falls down on his ass and he gets up at the count of eight and they dust his gloves off and the round ends. | ||
You win by 10-8? | ||
No. | ||
That would probably be 9-9. | ||
Okay. | ||
But any other circumstance when it's a close fight or a close round and a guy gets dropped, it's always a 10-8. | ||
It's pretty much established that it's a 10-8. | ||
So we know, if we're watching the fight at home, and we know, like, say if Manny Pacquiao's fighting some dude and he knocks the dude down three times in the first five rounds, like, that guy's fucked. | ||
He can't win a decision. | ||
He can't. | ||
I mean, he can, but he'd have to knock Manny down. | ||
In one round, so if you knock somebody down three times in one round, what would the score be usually? | ||
Well, it's one point for every knockdown. | ||
So it's 10-8 for one knockdown, 10-7 for two knockdowns. | ||
And in most title fights, they waive the three knockdown rule so you can have some fucking crazy, chaotic shit. | ||
Some organizations, they waive that three knockdown rule in title fights. | ||
They'll say it in the beginning. | ||
There's no three knockdown rule in effect. | ||
K-1 took it to the next level. | ||
K-1 had a two knockdown rule. | ||
If you got knocked down twice in a fight, it was over because they made you fight like three times a night. | ||
Damn! | ||
Makes sense, though. | ||
That's sick. | ||
Yeah, it makes sense. | ||
Do you fellas want a slice of cheese? | ||
Nope, I'm good. | ||
Getting knocked down once. | ||
You're getting a pound of cheese, but it's so good. | ||
I knew you'd love this aged provolone. | ||
There's nothing quite like it. | ||
My grandfather, 100% Sicilian, used to have a wheel of this shit. | ||
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Fuck you! | |
Is this... | ||
You're for real? | ||
I'm being dead serious. | ||
I thought you'd tell the joke. | ||
No. | ||
Oh, it's amazing. | ||
My grandfather would bring it home. | ||
He'd bring a wheel of aged provolone. | ||
Do you want to apologize to Alex Caceres now or after the news comes out? | ||
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I didn't say anything disrespectful, you fuck! | |
You said he didn't have any fundamentals. | ||
I didn't. | ||
I said his fundamentals were not as sound, essentially, as Rodriguez, and that's a fact. | ||
Jamie, didn't he say his fundamentals aren't very good? | ||
I honestly don't remember what you said. | ||
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No, I do. | |
I knew it had something to do with a critique. | ||
I never said anything about... | ||
Him at all. | ||
But go back. | ||
Take a look at the difference there. | ||
That's what I just said. | ||
Well, you know, Brian, it was a split decision, which means one judge thought that Caceres did enough to win. | ||
That judge is an idiot. | ||
Oh, I'm not so sure. | ||
He is. | ||
It's no disrespect to Caceres. | ||
He's fighting an amazing fighter, and he did a great job, but he did get tagged a lot. | ||
Look at that. | ||
Our boy didn't get hit much. | ||
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Beautiful. | |
Isn't that crazy? | ||
That flip kick. | ||
He does. | ||
I agree with you, B. He lost the fight. | ||
I'm just saying, you can't tell from the naked eye that a guy doesn't have good fundamentals. | ||
You just can't. | ||
I didn't say he didn't have good fundamentals. | ||
Yes, you did. | ||
To a T! I said... | ||
I don't remember what you said. | ||
I said his fundamentals are not as good as... | ||
You say that at first feet. | ||
You said his fundamentals aren't very good. | ||
I don't remember what I said, but I'm saying what I meant was... | ||
Let's just give you a chance to clarify right now, because this has already been printed in like 50 different MMA websites. | ||
Nobody cares, but here's what I say. | ||
I think six wheels of cheese. | ||
Here's what I say. | ||
All I was saying when I was watching that is I said, huh, it looks like when Caceres throws the shot, he takes it in the face and misses Rodriguez. | ||
This is round one. | ||
And I went, and I saw it three times, and I went... | ||
Well, and then I'd see Rodriguez throw a shot, and when he'd throw a shot, he was in a position where he couldn't get hit. | ||
And I said, that looks like Rodriguez has better fundamentals than Caceres. | ||
And I stand by that 100%. | ||
You are a well-read version of the old man at the gas station that talks to his other old man friend. | ||
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I'm well-read. | |
I'm well-read. | ||
We get together, and you're like, what he needed to do, this is what he did wrong, this is why you don't understand boxing. | ||
Same guy that critiques Don Brady still in motion. | ||
I absolutely agree. | ||
No, I do some boxing. | ||
I obsess over fundamentals, and I love it, and I think I'm qualified to at least have, with my naked eye, with my naked eye, sir. | ||
To judge two professionals. | ||
Sir, with my naked eye, I'm able to decide, sir, with my naked eye, sir, sir, if I may, with my naked eye, I am able to see who is actually a little better. | ||
Well, the odds would grade you. | ||
What you said, to a T, you said, Alex doesn't have any fundamentals. | ||
Dude, what I'm saying at the end of the day is that if you have two fighters... | ||
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I'm saying you're not qualified to judge the two fighters. | |
Then I'm able to fucking... | ||
Look at my fucking arms. | ||
I'm going to fucking start doing more curls. | ||
Listen, Yair is a beast, no doubt about it. | ||
He's amazing. | ||
I just didn't think you were totally fair to what Caceres brings to the table. | ||
Life is not fair, Joe. | ||
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Correct. | |
I just didn't think it was totally accurate. | ||
Well, I'm not living in a nursery school. | ||
And I think you got a little defensive afterwards, and you started defending it in some sort of weird way. | ||
And then it got worse. | ||
Guys, I made a good case. | ||
You got a little uncomfortable. | ||
But listen, ultimately you can walk away with this fairly unscathed, because Yair Rodriguez won a split decision, so it's all good, but... | ||
They're both beasts. | ||
Beasts. | ||
I'm a gigantic guy here. | ||
I love Caceres. | ||
He's 23. I didn't know who the fuck he was. | ||
5-0 in the UFC. He's so good. | ||
He threw up on me. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
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Threw up on you? | |
He threw up on me once. | ||
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Who? | |
It wasn't his fault. | ||
I mean, some of it got on my shoes. | ||
He threw up on himself. | ||
He actually threw up underneath his shirt. | ||
It was one of his fights. | ||
He had a brutal fight. | ||
And while I was talking to him, while I was interviewing him, he threw up. | ||
Jesus Christ. | ||
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Yeah. | |
He should be ashamed of himself. | ||
Dude, I was honored. | ||
You know one judge gave all three rounds. | ||
I want to say right now, I'm honored. | ||
I'm honored Yair Rodriguez. | ||
You know one judge gave all three rounds to Alex. | ||
Look at that, 46-49 for Alex. | ||
I might have changed the story. | ||
He might have, like, a particle might have landed on my foot, and now all of a sudden, I'm like, he threw up on me? | ||
He doused you? | ||
Still counts. | ||
Bro, it was like that fucking blueberry pie-eating contest from that Stephen King movie. | ||
Stand by me? | ||
Remember that? | ||
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Lardass. | |
Yeah, remember Lardass? | ||
Lardass. | ||
That was a fucking awesome movie. | ||
You know what? | ||
I wish they'd recreate IT. I think they were saying they were gonna do something like that. | ||
They're redoing the Aliens, you know that? | ||
He's so good, dude. | ||
Danny McBride's in it. | ||
Ooh, I love it. | ||
Me too. | ||
I love it. | ||
I love it. | ||
I love him. | ||
Alex Caceres. | ||
This is a fucking fun fight to watch highlights. | ||
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It is. | |
When we're not trying to calm Callan down. | ||
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Look at that. | |
Look at that. | ||
That's beautiful. | ||
Yeah, it's called spinning. | ||
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Look at that. | |
Whatever. | ||
Who does that? | ||
And that's the last move of the fight. | ||
Conor McGregor don't even do that shit. | ||
That's the last move of the fight. | ||
By the way, that's the same division. | ||
How crazy would that fight be? | ||
Conor McGregor and Yair Rodriguez? | ||
Not right now, son. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
He's not ready for that. | ||
It's a smart thing to build up to, though. | ||
For sure. | ||
Smart thing to build up to. | ||
Yair is 23 years old. | ||
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Wow. | |
That kid isn't even close to his prime. | ||
I'm making a call right now. | ||
You're looking at the future world champ in that division. | ||
Yeah, no shit. | ||
He's 23. He's amazing. | ||
That's my call, everybody. | ||
Write it down. | ||
It is highly possible. | ||
Highly possible that at one point in his career he could hold the title though. | ||
I'll tell you what. | ||
To have a guy that talented at 23. That's fucking nuts. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
So good. | ||
And have you ever seen him hit the pads? | ||
It's really kind of interesting because he does all that shit as a regular part of his training. | ||
You know a lot of guys will throw kicks like one, two, left hook, right leg kick. | ||
Left hook, right foot. | ||
Nothing fancy. | ||
Yeah, nothing fancy. | ||
And that's like the majority of their training. | ||
When Yair Rodriguez does pad work, it's like jab, wheel kick, jab, 360 roundhouse kick. | ||
His coach must be a beast. | ||
One, two, flying knee. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
Dude, his videos online of him at a gym doing pad work are super, super impressive. | ||
God, 23. That's nuts. | ||
But I'll tell you what, man. | ||
That is nuts. | ||
I'm still a believer in Alex Caceres. | ||
I'm a big fan of this dude. | ||
You should be. | ||
I've been saying that from day one. | ||
Oh, Brian... | ||
He has... | ||
I mean, he has... | ||
Oh, my God. | ||
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What the fuck? | |
Is that it? | ||
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Fuck you. | |
Holy shit. | ||
What's that? | ||
Brian, you have... | ||
Brendan, you have your finger on the pulse of American pop culture. | ||
Oh, yes, he does, dude. | ||
Yes, he does, bro. | ||
It's very weird. | ||
It's time for a new it, and bam, look at that. | ||
And you did it totally independently. | ||
I did. | ||
And Colonel Sandals. | ||
Sandals. | ||
Colonel Sandals? | ||
You nailed the black Colonel Sanders? | ||
Colonel Sandals. | ||
It turned out to be a rumor, though. | ||
Oh. | ||
Yeah, that's bullshit. | ||
They need a black one, though. | ||
It was a rumor that he started himself, though, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
He was just having fun. | ||
That's some bullshit. | ||
They should do it. | ||
If they were smart. | ||
They should get George Wallace to do it. | ||
They should have Dave Chappelle do it. | ||
That would be good, too. | ||
Chris Rock ain't doing shit. | ||
I don't think Dave Chappelle would be willing to do it. | ||
Well, you gotta do it just because you love chicken. | ||
I don't think it's that hard to get chicken. | ||
You don't have to act when you're a multi-millionaire if you want chicken. | ||
No, I'm saying you love... | ||
What the fuck? | ||
No, no, no. | ||
I'm not saying you can't afford it. | ||
You know how hard it is to get chicken. | ||
It's just ground fowl. | ||
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It's so rare. | |
God damn it. | ||
You love the chicken so much you don't care about the money. | ||
So you're doing the commercial. | ||
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This rare ground fowl tastes just like... | |
Chicken. | ||
I like your attempt at recovery. | ||
I like what you tried to do there. | ||
I'm for reals. | ||
Of course they can afford chicken. | ||
Michael Bisping looking very fucking well tailored. | ||
Fighting Dan Henderson, it's true, in Manchester, England. | ||
He's got to fix that eye. | ||
That's going to be huge. | ||
Is it going to be huge? | ||
Are you kidding me, after that first fight, what this means? | ||
This is a fucking crazy... | ||
Imagine when they're about to go, Dan Anderson, Michael Bisping, about to go again. | ||
Dude, it's gonna be fucking nuts. | ||
Dan Anderson, he's retiring. | ||
Win or lose. | ||
That's gonna be nuts. | ||
Is he gonna lose his eye? | ||
That's legendary, epic, iconic shit right there. | ||
Oh, I love both guys. | ||
Love both. | ||
I love this idea of a title fight. | ||
I think that's one of the beautiful things about the UFC, being able to make crazy fights like this. | ||
Dan Henderson was like, you know, I'm probably done. | ||
I would fight for the title. | ||
And I'm a legend. | ||
And I'm a legend. | ||
He's the first fighter ever to hold two consecutive titles in two different weight classes in pride. | ||
Never got the UFC one though. | ||
Never got the UFC one, but if he gets it with this and then retires... | ||
Oh my god! | ||
Goes down pound for pound, one of the best ever. | ||
He's already in the running, right? | ||
Top ten. | ||
Forget about numerically, who's more valuable, who accomplished more. | ||
Just straight up Hall of Fame legends. | ||
Who's more legendary than Dan Henderson? | ||
Randy Couture. | ||
Yeah, maybe. | ||
But Dan Henderson's right there. | ||
He's right up there. | ||
Randy gets a bit more because Randy won the UFC heavyweight title. | ||
He won the UFC light heavyweight title. | ||
But at the time when Randy did win the light heavyweight title, I would say it's more impressive what Dan Henderson was doing in Pride. | ||
The guys he was beating, the drug testing... | ||
Yeah, maybe. | ||
His weight, his height, it's crazy. | ||
How about when Randy Couture knocked down Tim Sylvia? | ||
He's outweighed by like 50 pounds. | ||
He drops Tim Sylvia with a fake inside leg kick and a bomb of overhand right. | ||
Same punch, by the way, that Henderson used when he fought Bisping. | ||
Remember when he beat the brakes off Gonzaga? | ||
And it ain't the Gonzaga-Brennan Schaub beat. | ||
No. | ||
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He beat Gonzaga-Gonzaga when he had a broken arm. | |
Remember he broke Randy's arm and Randy was beating him with his fucking broken arm. | ||
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Damn. | |
And then remember when Randy fought Leoto? | ||
And he said, oh, Captain America, cool. | ||
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Kadoosh! | |
Tooth out. | ||
That was the end of the road. | ||
That was when he was 50. That was his last fight. | ||
You don't have to bring that up. | ||
Well, no, I'm just... | ||
Why do you have to bring everybody back to reality? | ||
Why do you have to bring that up, bro? | ||
Why do you have to bring that up? | ||
You know, it's amazing to you today. | ||
I was there for his first fight. | ||
How disrespectful you are to these fighters. | ||
I was there for his first and second fight in the UFC back there. | ||
I was doing the backstage interviews. | ||
You and I... You were not there. | ||
We and I went to the fight between Randy Couture when he beat Vitor Belfort. | ||
We thought Vitor was going to kill everybody. | ||
Remember that? | ||
Young Vitor. | ||
I never forgot that. | ||
Powerful Vitor. | ||
You guys all in shock. | ||
Joe and I flew down to Baton Rouge or somewhere like that. | ||
Well, Vitor was so big, man. | ||
He was like 240 back then. | ||
And I'm not exaggerating. | ||
He looked like a lion. | ||
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Jamie, can you bring up Vitor Belfort, Randy Couture? | |
Yeah. | ||
He punched like the tank, too. | ||
He looked like Bluto from Popeye. | ||
Well, Eddie and I used to work out with his trainer. | ||
Which one? | ||
We worked out with his dude. | ||
We used to call him Garden Hoses. | ||
You're talking about the real tan guy who's jacked? | ||
He was purple. | ||
He wasn't tan, he was purple. | ||
He was a super nice guy. | ||
And he wound up... | ||
Oh, shit. | ||
I don't know what he died from. | ||
Damn, this shit's 30 minutes, Jamie. | ||
He died really young. | ||
Yeah, we don't have to see everything. | ||
Look at the size of him. | ||
Jesus Christ, look how big he was. | ||
Handsome seller, too. | ||
Just get deep into the fight itself. | ||
Mr. Take Yo Girl. | ||
Randy Cove. | ||
I think this is like, is this the actual fight? | ||
It's out there. | ||
There it is. | ||
Let's show it. | ||
Yeah, start it from the beginning, though. | ||
Start it from the beginning. | ||
That's the end of the round. | ||
Look at this. | ||
I think it's just highlights, fellas. | ||
Oh, okay. | ||
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Powerful. | |
A little before this. | ||
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A little before this. | |
John McCauley looks so angry. | ||
John McCauley's age very well. | ||
He looks about the same age. | ||
Look how big he is. | ||
Oh my god, look how big Vitor's back is. | ||
This was, I mean, what do you think Vitor weighed then? | ||
240. See, but this is like a prime example of having maybe too much muscle. | ||
Like, you almost get too strong and too powerful, and maybe it's not like the right thing for your frame. | ||
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Not back then. | |
Not back then. | ||
God, look at the size of him. | ||
Woodley would beg to differ, Joe Rogan. | ||
He's built different. | ||
Woodley is thicker boned. | ||
He's got bigger feet. | ||
Woodley's also way leaner. | ||
You ever look how small Vitor's feet are? | ||
He's not a big giant guy, but, you know, he's a super athletic guy. | ||
And, you know, he's had a lot of issues with his hands breaking because he punches so hard and so fast. | ||
He's also been doing it forever. | ||
Look there, man, he's been as old as fuck. | ||
Well, you know, Vitor's had, I believe, at least eight operations on his hands. | ||
And he also had a TRT pass for a while. | ||
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When did they stop shoes? | |
Randy Couture is wearing shoes. | ||
That's right, Jamie. | ||
Powerful Jamie. | ||
That's crazy. | ||
He's wearing shoes. | ||
Used to be an option. | ||
I think you could wear shoes up until... | ||
Fuck, man. | ||
When I was doing the post-fight interviews, it was always you could wear shoes. | ||
And early on, it was no gloves. | ||
I think the gloves came along later. | ||
Early on, no one was wearing gloves. | ||
Like the first fights I worked, maybe like a couple guys were wearing gloves. | ||
Like Vitor was wearing gloves. | ||
Tank Abbott used to wear gloves. | ||
But most guys weren't wearing gloves. | ||
Gotta have gloves on. | ||
Randy said, in this fight, Randy said, I'm gonna beat him and I'm gonna beat him with boxing. | ||
Yeah, well, he just kept pressure on it, too. | ||
Randy's a guy that you can't take for granted. | ||
Look at how different his body is now there, and look at his body when he's 48. I think if you do that, granted, obviously he's on fucking, he's juiced to the gills, but if you do that with any 48-year-old to 19-year-old, they're going to look different. | ||
This is a pretty technical fight back then. | ||
How old was Randy? | ||
Well, Randy was not 48. This looks like a modern day MMA fight. | ||
No, I'm saying Vitor. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
If you compare his body when he's 19. Anyone from 19 to 39 or 42 now. | ||
Joe, how old was Randy here? | ||
Randy, well, I believe he had his first fight in the UFC when he was 36 or 34. I can't remember. | ||
I'm pretty sure it's 36. Well, so he was in his 30s. | ||
Well, this was in, what, 1999? | ||
Probably not that late. | ||
It might be 97, 98. Well, I came along, I started doing it in 97, and I only did it for like a year and a half until they wanted me to go to Japan. | ||
I was like, check, please. | ||
I didn't call the fights back then. | ||
I just did the interviews afterwards. | ||
I definitely did the interview after this one. | ||
You and I went together. | ||
Randy, once you got that takedown. | ||
So far, this fight doesn't look dated. | ||
This looks like a fight that could happen now. | ||
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The technique is so good. | |
It's so old. | ||
It doesn't look dated at all. | ||
You're right, Eddie. | ||
You're right. | ||
Randy was a beast, man. | ||
I think he probably doesn't get nearly enough respect or credit with today's fighters. | ||
You don't think so? | ||
Not today's fighters, rather. | ||
Today's fans. | ||
I don't think the people that are newly to the game, I don't think a big percentage of them go back and watch the early fights. | ||
It's one of the things about Fight Pass. | ||
I hate to be a show for the company. | ||
Randy Couture's not on there, brother. | ||
But Fight Pass is fucking awesome. | ||
Not if you're Randy Couture. | ||
He's banned from the UFC, son. | ||
Come on, they don't have him on Fight Pass. | ||
I'm almost positive. | ||
Is that real? | ||
All his shit's banned from the UFC, right? | ||
He's not in the Hall of Fame, can't come to the events, sure as fuck not on Fight Pass. | ||
Is that true? | ||
I'm barely on Fight Pass, and I said fuck Reebok, let alone Randy Couture. | ||
I thought Fight Pass was all the UFC fights. | ||
It's not? | ||
I would be surprised if Randy's on there. | ||
Find out, Jamie. | ||
I don't think you can totally say that without knowing for sure. | ||
Look at this beatdowns with the scarf hold. | ||
He's on it. | ||
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I just Googled it on my phone. | |
He comes up on it. | ||
You can watch his fight, though. | ||
He just gets tired here. | ||
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This is technical shit. | |
All this. | ||
I know, but can you watch his fights? | ||
Randy Couture will wear you like a sweater. | ||
Well, we have Fight Pass, right? | ||
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Yeah, I guess you can check. | |
Randy Couture's a legend. | ||
He'll wear you like a sweater, you fucking... | ||
You guys don't know shit. | ||
How's his fundamentals, Brian? | ||
His fundamentals are sound. | ||
They're sound fundamentals, you guys. | ||
He's such a stud wrestler. | ||
When I wrestle, I go... | ||
I say to guys, I go, I'm wearing you like a sweater, motherfucker. | ||
And I put my chest on his chest. | ||
How often does this happen other than when you're asleep? | ||
When I train, when I train, I always say that. | ||
I go, you ready to be worn by like a sweater? | ||
I say that. | ||
And then when I strike with guys, I say this. | ||
I go, hey dude, you ever fight a ghost? | ||
You're about to. | ||
That's what I say. | ||
I like that. | ||
Hope you like swinging in fresh air because that's what you're about to get. | ||
And then I fucking pull a Rodriguez on him because my fundamentals are sound. | ||
Does anybody ever tap to the canoper anymore? | ||
Remember when Mark Kerr used to get dudes in that can opener? | ||
Goddamn, I remember Mark Kerr got this Russian dude in the can opener, and it was so goddamn nasty. | ||
They're nasty. | ||
He pulled on this guy's head, and Mark Kerr was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you. | ||
You know the last one I remember? | ||
Alistair O'Ream's brother against Ray Sefo. | ||
In Strikeforce or Elite XC. Wow, that's right. | ||
That's right. | ||
Did Seppo can't open hurt him? | ||
What's up? | ||
That's the last one I remember. | ||
Yeah, he got it from... | ||
Yeah, it was weird. | ||
No, Overeem's brother got him, right? | ||
Got him, yes. | ||
Overeem's brother tapped out Randy. | ||
Do you know that? | ||
Yep. | ||
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Valentine. | |
I didn't know that. | ||
Valentine Overeem's a beast. | ||
He was really good, man. | ||
Was this a three-round fight? | ||
I can't remember. | ||
He was a heavyweight. | ||
Back when Alistair was fighting light heavyweight, Valentine was a heavyweight. | ||
Can't you just do... | ||
I heard those brothers were nightmares in fucking the Netherlands. | ||
By the way, look at how much time is going on in this clock. | ||
Five minutes and 49 seconds. | ||
5.50, 5.51. | ||
Like, these are long-ass fucking rounds, folks. | ||
I have a hard time. | ||
This is not the old UFC. I don't even honestly remember how long the fucking rounds were. | ||
Well, I'm distracted by John McCarthy's boat collar. | ||
Well, how about what happened to Randy Couture's shorts? | ||
You see what happened to his shorts right there? | ||
His shorts are jacked and ripped open. | ||
Still back to the boat collar. | ||
Look at that boat collar. | ||
There you go. | ||
Boat collar. | ||
Oh, there you go. | ||
Randy Couture. | ||
I just saw him. | ||
Yeah. | ||
The Lesnar fight. | ||
I don't know if you can watch the... | ||
I'm sure if he's on there, they're going to have them everywhere. | ||
There you go. | ||
Randy Couture, Brock Lesnar. | ||
Yeah. | ||
See if there's more, though. | ||
See if there's ones where he wins. | ||
Yeah, you can watch him. | ||
Here's all his losses. | ||
He could only watch him get his ass kicked. | ||
He's Randy versus Chuck Liddell, one and two. | ||
Oh, no, two and three. | ||
You want to imagine if it was only Randy. | ||
Oh, this one you could knee on the ground. | ||
Can you just search for Randy Couture? | ||
But imagine if it was only Randy versus Chuck Liddell, two and three. | ||
You couldn't watch one. | ||
You couldn't watch one. | ||
Is he one and one? | ||
Damn, Randy Couture is still taking it to veto here. | ||
I forgot how long this fight lasted. | ||
This is seven minutes into the first round. | ||
That's some grueling shit. | ||
And he had the worm, remember? | ||
It's crazy. | ||
The worm. | ||
You would think you had a worm, too, if Randy Couture was uppercutting you. | ||
Hey, what's CM Punk's favorite fight? | ||
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You would think you would have fucking all kinds of shit coming out of your asshole. | |
He'd knock you around like a fucking old teddy bear. | ||
Is there no fucking search on this thing, Jamie? | ||
Jamie, we got to get the new version of the Fight Pass. | ||
This version kind of blows. | ||
Not the Fight Pass, rather the Apple ITV. There might be a better version of that. | ||
Here goes Vitor. | ||
But if you like watching old school fights, the fucking resource of the fight library at the Fight Pass, it's so... | ||
Oh, look at these. | ||
Knees to the head. | ||
Downed opponent, knees to the head. | ||
Illegal maneuver now. | ||
Look at that. | ||
So think about all these things that are taking place in this fight with Vitor and Randy. | ||
First of all, Randy's still beating that ass. | ||
It's 7 minutes and 58 seconds in. | ||
Beating that ass. | ||
He's still beating that ass. | ||
He's still got the endurance to beat that ass. | ||
No rest. | ||
Look at him. | ||
Just beating the fuck out of this dude. | ||
He's trying to break him. | ||
He's one of those dudes, man. | ||
If he feels you breaking, especially then, so close to his athletic prime as an amateur wrestler, he's a fucking straight savage right here. | ||
There's the fight right there. | ||
Just beat him down. | ||
Collision course right there. | ||
Randy beats it. | ||
Hey, go to the bottom. | ||
It says related videos. | ||
I think that's Randy vs. | ||
Vitor. | ||
Woo, look how stud he was back then. | ||
Goddamn Randy Couture. | ||
Yep. | ||
One of the best. | ||
Capitan America. | ||
El Capitano. | ||
Go to Randy... | ||
Go to Maurice Smith vs. | ||
Tank Abbott. | ||
Go to that fight. | ||
God, remember Tank Abbott? | ||
Fuck yeah! | ||
How about Mark Coleman versus Maurice Smith? | ||
Oh yeah, man. | ||
Everybody needed a dude like Tank Abbott around just to let you know that you could think that all martial artists are going to be the same thing. | ||
They're all going to be like Leota Machida bowing. | ||
No, there's some dudes who get drunk every night and will beat the fuck out of him. | ||
Roy Nelson is kind of similar to Tank Abbott. | ||
But Tank is even crazier. | ||
Way crazier than Roy Nelson in a lot of ways. | ||
I'm saying from the looks. | ||
You're like, get the fuck out of him. | ||
Oh, belly? | ||
Yeah, but he can fucking knock your face off. | ||
I ran into Mark Coleman after he lost to Maury Smith, and he basically gassed in that one. | ||
Remember that fight? | ||
He was like fucking... | ||
He was leaning over, hands on his knees, and Maury Smith was throwing leg kicks and shit. | ||
He was barely hanging on. | ||
He was like panicking. | ||
I was working for a guy who was trying to start a magazine, an MMA magazine called NHB. And so I interviewed Mark Coleman and I asked him, what has he been doing since that fight? | ||
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And this was at a bar and he goes, look down, brother, look at my feet. | |
And I looked down and he goes, I got some running shoes. | ||
I've been running, man. | ||
I've been running. | ||
That's what I'm doing. | ||
That's the difference. | ||
I'm running. | ||
Look at Tank. | ||
Hey, Jamie, go back. | ||
Go back to this show, the audience. | ||
Go back. | ||
I wanted to point this out. | ||
Go back a couple minutes. | ||
Look how small the audience is. | ||
This is crazy. | ||
You had to be just a fucking meathead to show up back then. | ||
And this is a fight that I was at, too. | ||
I remember this. | ||
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Two thousand people. | |
Maurice, I was really interested to see how Tank was going to be able to deal with those leg kicks. | ||
Maurice was so fucking skillful. | ||
As far as like a real heavyweight, because Maurice is a real natural heavyweight. | ||
He's a big dude. | ||
But a real heavyweight that's that fucking good at Muay Thai, who comes over into MMA. And again, just like... | ||
Like a lot of guys, he came over after a long career in kickboxing. | ||
Super long career. | ||
He's a legend in Denver. | ||
Yeah, he'd fought for a long time, won a bunch of titles. | ||
You said the weirdest thing after this fight, too. | ||
I remember you said, after the fight, you were next to him, and you said, I looked in his mouth, and it looked like his mouth had different parts in it. | ||
Like he had all these thick jaw muscles. | ||
You just looked into his mouth. | ||
The tank? | ||
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Yes. | |
Yeah, he's definitely built different than the regular human. | ||
What's he do these days? | ||
I was wondering what he did with that. | ||
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Besides getting money for the fucking health angels. | |
Wait for anybody to open their fucking pie hall. | ||
God, you don't want that. | ||
That guy in a bar with a bad day? | ||
He's scary, man. | ||
He definitely don't want it. | ||
He benched something like 600 pounds. | ||
Yeah, he benched 600 pounds. | ||
He's a gorilla, man. | ||
Straight up vanilla gorilla. | ||
I always enjoyed him, too. | ||
Me, too. | ||
I always enjoyed watching him fight. | ||
I always enjoyed talking to him. | ||
I always had a good time with that guy. | ||
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He was supposed to fight this year, but he didn't pass his physical. | |
God damn it. | ||
He was supposed to fight Dan Severn. | ||
You know what? | ||
What happened when he was physical? | ||
That made me sad. | ||
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He didn't pass his physical and was removed from the fight. | |
Dan, they brought his belt out. | ||
That makes me feel bad. | ||
Maurice. | ||
Maurice had a great sense of humor, too. | ||
Was Maurice the champ, then? | ||
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No. | |
Was this after he had beaten... | ||
Was this after he had beaten Mark Coleman for the title? | ||
Because Maury's beat Mark Coleman, remember? | ||
Oh, I remember that. | ||
Remember he kept saying, come on, ground and pound me. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Ground and pound me, Mark. | ||
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Boom. | |
Dude. | ||
Ground and pound me, boom. | ||
And the way Maury's is, Maury's like the nicest guy ever. | ||
So he's talking like all calm. | ||
Come on, Mark. | ||
Ground and pound me. | ||
Ground and pound me, Mark. | ||
What's he up to? | ||
What's he doing? | ||
He's got a school, right? | ||
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I don't know, man. | |
I don't know what he's doing. | ||
He's a good dude, though. | ||
Yes, he is. | ||
Enormous heart. | ||
He definitely has enormous heart. | ||
He's just funny. | ||
He had a great sense of humor. | ||
Well, he's also very smart. | ||
When it came to fighting, he was very smart. | ||
And one of the things that he had above everybody is cardio. | ||
Maury Smith used to do crazy cardio drills. | ||
He would do like these back-and-forth sprints in the pool, like really hardcore long-range cardio stuff. | ||
So when he got into these long fights, you know, because you've got to remember, we're not even talking about a five-minute round. | ||
I don't even know what the fuck the rounds were back then. | ||
I don't remember. | ||
Can you find out what the rounds were? | ||
277. This is back like UFC 12-ish, 13-ish, somewhere around there. | ||
UFC 12 is when I started. | ||
This is maybe like 14, UFC 14. Oh my goodness, he's so young. | ||
That's a young Bruce. | ||
Oh my goodness. | ||
Crazy. | ||
I can't believe he goes all the way back. | ||
He's inexorable. | ||
He's such a part of the thing, you know? | ||
God, I gotta get out of here. | ||
I got a fucking gig. | ||
Do you? | ||
I got to do the store. | ||
Scooch this up a hair so we can watch this fight. | ||
UFC 12 was the first one with weight classes. | ||
And UFC 15 saw limitations in hair pulling, the banding of strikes to the back of the neck and head, headbutting, small joint manipulations, and groin strikes with five-minute rounds introduced to UFC 21. Ah, UFC 21. So I was already gone. | ||
What do you think of the 12-6 rule? | ||
They upheld that, right? | ||
Stupid. | ||
Stupid rule. | ||
Doesn't make any sense. | ||
Go ahead, right there. | ||
Right there is good. | ||
Let's see how far away... | ||
Tank is just trapped out. | ||
This is a big giant ass dude. | ||
What's going on with this? | ||
Oh, see we missed a giant chunk, son. | ||
I forgot Tank Abbott got on top of him. | ||
Took him down. | ||
I forgot that. | ||
Maury Smith had a very underrated, very good defensive guard. | ||
He went butterfly. | ||
Back then it was very hard to pass his guard. | ||
You couldn't just pass his guard. | ||
Well, Maurice is a smart dude. | ||
He's very smart when it comes to fighting, too. | ||
He had a remarkable ability to remain calm in combat. | ||
It's one of the reasons why he was so dangerous. | ||
You could take him out like we saw with the Ernesto Hu's head kick, but that's a kick that takes out everybody that ever lived. | ||
In the back of the neck? | ||
It's just one of those kicks. | ||
That's a brutal kick that he did on Maurice, too. | ||
Everybody gets KO'd by that kick. | ||
But what Maurice was... | ||
Capable of was at a super high world-class level. | ||
I mean, he's an all-time great when it comes to kickboxers from America, for sure. | ||
Dude, Tank just passed Maurice's guard. | ||
Holy shit. | ||
I was talking so much shit about Maurice's guard, and Tank passes guard. | ||
Maurice put him right back in it. | ||
And you know what? | ||
That's a transition that I did not remember. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's technical. | ||
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Tank actually technically passed Maurice Smith's guard. | |
Holy shit. | ||
Tank could wrestle. | ||
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Do you see this photo up there? | |
Was that tank trying to throw a guy out of the ring? | ||
Did that ever happen? | ||
He came close. | ||
The guy didn't go out. | ||
The guy stayed sort of in it, but it was an issue. | ||
He almost fell out. | ||
They didn't have a rule then. | ||
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I was going to say, do you win? | |
Good question. | ||
You have to open the door and let the guy back in. | ||
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You'd feel like a real bitch to toss out the ring on a walk back in. | |
Well, I feel like that guy just wasted a lot of energy and time to go after him. | ||
Morris is very good at surviving on the ground. | ||
Oh, yeah. | ||
As a kickboxer, I don't really know that many kickboxers with a guard as good as his. | ||
Well, you know why? | ||
Frank Shamrock. | ||
Him and Frank Shamrock were very close. | ||
And this is when Frank Shamrock was at his best. | ||
Like when Frank Shamrock was the UFC champion, when Frank beat John Loeber in the rematch, like he was palling around with Maurice back then. | ||
And I think they both helped each other a lot. | ||
I think Maurice helped Frank with a lot of cardio, like really emphasizing how strong a role cardio plays. | ||
And also with Maurice, of course, showing him like real proper kickboxing fundamentals. | ||
You can see he's in his corner there. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Frank. | ||
Yeah. | ||
No, he was in his corner for... | ||
I watched Warriors fight once in Drakka. | ||
You remember Drakka? | ||
I sure don't. | ||
It was like MMA, but you could take dudes down. | ||
Or kickboxing, but you could take dudes down. | ||
It was real weird. | ||
It was just an alternative set of rules. | ||
Kickboxing with takedowns. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Do you remember it, Eddie? | ||
No, Drakka. | ||
Yeah, you remember that shit. | ||
It's only terrible because you gotta get used to it. | ||
After a while, you get used to it. | ||
Say it again. | ||
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Drakka. | |
Drakka. | ||
Well, Bellator, is that any better? | ||
Well... | ||
But it seems like... | ||
Kickboxing with takedowns is a big part of what Muay Thai is all about. | ||
Sweeps and other crazy sweeps. | ||
Damn Courtney! | ||
And Dominic Steele. | ||
Well, they're a crazy war. | ||
I need to go back home and watch that. | ||
That should have made it. | ||
That should have made it. | ||
That's quite more interesting to me than just regular kickboxing. | ||
Kickboxing with throws and shit. | ||
That's more interesting to me. | ||
Yeah, oh, James got it up there. | ||
Is that Drakka? | ||
This is Drakka? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Oh, these guys are using MMA gloves. | ||
This is another next level shit. | ||
This is new, right? | ||
2014? | ||
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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You think this is full MMA? No, it says Drakka. | |
It says MMA Drakka. | ||
It says MMA Drakka. | ||
It's just some weird Russian shit. | ||
Maybe Drakka just moved to MMA. They adopted. | ||
Yeah, they said, what the fuck are we doing with this bullshit? | ||
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Oh! | |
That guy has on UFC trunks. | ||
Mmm. | ||
That you could buy off the website. | ||
It's beautiful trunks. | ||
Why not wear them? | ||
Might be a UFC. Well, it's the only thing that's sad. | ||
It's got both the underwear on as well. | ||
See that? | ||
With the underwear on. | ||
UFC trunks. | ||
Hey man, the guy's got a fucking dream. | ||
He's obviously a bad motherfucker. | ||
But the old Draco was kickboxing. | ||
They had boxing gloves on. | ||
But you could shoot like double legs? | ||
You could do throws and stuff. | ||
It was weird. | ||
Like judo throws or like tight throws? | ||
All kinds of throws. | ||
There's some more time where you could do throws. | ||
Oh my god, I gotta get out of here. | ||
This podcast has gone on far too late, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
I have obligations to go before I sleep. | ||
You can find Eddie motherfucking Bravo on Twitter. | ||
It's Eddie Bravo on Twitter, right? | ||
And Eddie Bravo 10 on Instagram? | ||
Yeah, at Eddie Bravo 10 Instagram. | ||
Brian Callen is B-R-Y. B-R-Y-A-N Callen. | ||
B-R-Y-A-N? Yes, Brendan Schaub. | ||
Not Brandon, you fuck. | ||
Brendan. | ||
Brendan Schaub. | ||
You can find Brendan Schaub. | ||
S-C-H-A-U-B. Anything, boys? | ||
Any dates to plug? | ||
Go! | ||
August 18th, 19th, 20th. | ||
I'm at the Comedy Store Wednesday night. | ||
Wednesday Night Comedy Store, Brendan Schaub's actual comedy sort of kind of debut, but he's done it already. | ||
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Awesome. | |
EBI. Kind of a debut. | ||
EBI. He's done it already. | ||
Anytime you do the Comedy Store for the first time, it's your debut. | ||
EBI 8, September 11th. | ||
Middleweights, downtown Los Angeles at the Orpheum. | ||
You can watch it on UFC Fight Pass. | ||
Here it goes. | ||
Hold on a second. | ||
Wait a minute. | ||
This is Tank Habit coming out. | ||
Something happened, and it's 7 minutes and 55 seconds into the fight, and this is where it comes. | ||
These fucking brutal leg kicks. | ||
You got a guy like Maury Smith standing in front of you, and you're exhausted. | ||
He's just tired. | ||
That's it. | ||
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We don't need to see any more of this. | |
Bye, everybody. | ||
Thanks for tuning in. | ||
Appreciate you. | ||
See ya. |