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July 7, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience

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Joe Rogan Experience #820 - Milo Yiannopoulos

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	Give it up for Milo Yayanopoulos.
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joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I tried to explain to Milo that you can't wear sunglasses indoors unless you're black.
		And you put them right back on.
		You almost took them off.
unidentified		No, I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you put them back on in spite.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I said I've got plenty of black in me and you should mind your own business.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You have had plenty of black in the middle.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Tenses are very difficult.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Tens is very difficult.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially with that jacket on.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you like it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's adorable.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		You know, I like to military it up a little bit sometimes.
		Do you want me to take them off?
		You do, don't you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Explain to the people listening what exactly this jacket is, because some folks are not watching.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I went to, well, obviously I have lots of friends in the military.
		It's the best armed forces in the world.
		America should be very happy about it.
		Occasionally, you wander into the commissary and just pick up a few little items.
		I had it adjusted, of course, because the military stuff is very boxy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Very boxy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So I took it to a nice tailor in Beverly Hills.
		Had the sleeves pulled in.
		It's very nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it's like some sort of a navy jacket or something?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is that exactly?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think this is an army dress jacket, actually, but this is in an Air Force place.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that military appropriation?
		Is that stolen valor?
		Are you allowed to wear those?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no.
		It's only stolen valor if you're misrepresenting that remember the armed forces.
		And you know, if I had like badges on or something, then that would be bad.
		I like to think of this more as a sort of fashionable homage.
		It's a respectful gesture.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ah, nice.
		Yeah, those stolen valor dudes are very odd.
		When they get caught, you've seen a lot of those videos, that's a disturbing little mental illness to pretend to be some war hero.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		And you know what's interesting?
		They always get caught out because they're sort of very clever, but not very clever.
		So what they'll do is they will think that they've got all the badges right, and they'll kind of like, they'll have a friend who sort of lets them into the commissary so they can go and pick up these badges, like pretend they're part of the tank unit or whatever.
		But they'll get something slightly wrong because they're not serving and they don't have a superior officer to be like, that's, you know, you know, they'll just get a little something wrong.
		And of course, for all of their weird, autistic obsessions about getting all of the uniform stuff perfect, there are people out there on the internet who are vets who know the difference.
		And so with these amazing wars, there's a name for them.
		In Britain, we call them Waltz, like Walter Mitte's.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who's Walter Mitty?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Walter Mitty is...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so most recently there was a movie, I think it was, was it Matt Damon?
		Yeah, anyway, it's become a novel and a movie, and it's become just a name in culture for people who pretend to be somebody else.
		A secret life for Walter Mitty.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so in the army they call them Walts, people who pretend to be vets or pretend to be sort of serving personnel who are not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a very bizarre mental illness.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It is, it is, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so uncomfortable watching them get called out, too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There was one guy at an airport.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And these Marines cornered him and they started asking him questions.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They started falling apart.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, it's so awkward and cringy, but I live for those moments anyway.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They are fun.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of awkward and cringy, what the fuck is going on with your country, man?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm so happy for the first time.
		No, I've never, I mean, you know, Michelle Obama said something terrible.
		She's like, I was proud of my country for the first time or something like that, you know, about something trivial and ridiculous, which I found distressing.
		And I don't want to say that because it's not true.
		But I did suddenly think there might be hope for Europe after all.
		There might be hope, particularly for the best country in Europe, which is England, and the best sort of nation in Europe, the United Kingdom.
		Finally, unshackled from this hellish continent on a suicide mission into Islamization and economic doom, finally, the UK's got a chance to prove that it's better than all that, and it can reopen better trade relationships with Asia, with India, with America.
		It can reassess, renegotiate its relationship with all the countries around it.
		The European project for me, I mean, I know a lot of Americans have sort of believed what they've read about the coverage from the media on this, but I'm definitely in the Brexit camp.
		I think it's fantastic.
		And not just economically, because I think things will bounce back and Britain will be better than ever, but culturally, and that's what's so essential.
		Britain has a slightly different national character as the rest of Europe.
		It's never really fit.
		And I think Britain now has an opportunity to save itself from the suicidal open borders policies of Angela Merkel, from the inevitable decline and fall of Europe as a continent.
		Generally, Britain's got a chance now, and it didn't have a chance as part of Europe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And Merkel is the one who, when those attacks were going on in Germany during New Year's Eve, where the Islamic guys were grabbing all those girls, her advice was for them to dress differently and stay within arm's length.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, in feminism, we call this victim blaming.
		Yes.
		When you tell people that they did something that contributed toward their rape.
		But of course, in the hierarchy of oppression and victimhood, according to progressives, Muslims rank higher than women.
		Muslims rank higher than anybody else, in fact.
		Nobody knows why.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's because of the wars.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's differently, right?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's because they hate the West as much as feminists do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But don't you think it has something to do with the fact that we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and people feel a little bit guilty about the fact that a million people have died?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, white guilt has driven all of the worst things that have happened in Western.
		Oh, all of them.
		All of the worst things that have happened in Western culture in the last 30 years have all been driven by white guilt.
		Feminism, Black Lives Matter, the whole lot.
		You know, these are not good reasons.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Feminism is driven by white guilt?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		Look, I've got a theory about this.
		It's very straightforward.
		In the 90s, we had Marilyn Manson, we had Trent Rezner, we had Novana, and people were cutting themselves.
		You know, there was the emo thing.
		When I was growing up, I mean, I didn't, obviously, but when people were growing up, they had an outlet for all of that sort of repressed rage and self-loathing.
		Well, kids these days don't have that.
		And the inevitable result was social justice.
		What they do instead is they sort of hang on to this.
		It's a protracted self-hatred.
		It's protracted self-harm, social justice.
		They go out into the world and hurt people who look like them.
		So these awful, you know, middle-class white feminist women just want to hurt other middle-class white people because they feel like the world is terrible.
		It's a very weird phenomenon, this social justice thing.
		And I think it's mainly driven by self-loathing.
		And once you understand that, their behavior becomes a lot more...
		You start to understand why they are as they are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think a lot of hate is definitely based in self-loathing.
		And there's an opportunity today that they have that they never had before to organize and find like-minded folks and get together and form other crazy people.
		They're bully gangs.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they are bully gangs.
		But they're bully gangs.
		And when you start to understand that this is a sort of psychosis, when you start to understand this is a sort of like mental illness, this is something that they should have got out of their systems when they were teens, but they didn't because they had no culture to help them.
		I grew up on Marlon Manson and Nirvana.
		These kids grew up on Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber and that sort of like flat anodyne, eternally funless, grinning garbage.
		They don't ever get it out of their systems.
		And now you have 35-year-old bitter bastards working for BuzzFeed who still, it's got to go somewhere.
		And where does it go?
		It goes into social justice.
		And this is what's happened.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't you think that there's a percentage of them, some of them, that genuinely feel like this is a unique opportunity to right some of the wrongs that our culture has sort of encouraged.
		There's legitimate sexism.
		There's legitimate racism, right?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nobody says there's no sexism and no racism in this country, even in this country.
		No serious person says that.
		Nobody really believes that.
		I'm squeaking on my chair.
		That wasn't anything else.
		Nobody really believes that.
		And nobody says it.
		Look, we live in, well, you live.
		I hope to live here one day.
		But you live in the greatest country in the world.
		It is a country driven by democracy, freedom, property rights, capitalism, and all of those Western values, the values on which freedom of speech and the Second Amendment 2, all of those things that went into building America and making America wonderful are exactly the same things that are responsible for women having the vote, having access to the same opportunities, same access to institutions, to education, the workplace, having equal pay, which of course they do.
		Giving gay people rights.
		Look at the places in the world where gay people have rights.
		They are modern Western liberal capitalist democracies.
		Well, the left hates all of those things and hates the West for precisely the reasons that the West has been nice to them.
		And frankly, they want to go after this cish-het white patriarchy.
		Well, the patriarchy, the Western capitalist patriarchy, is the only people that like you.
		The only people who like the gays.
		The only people who like blacks and women, all the rest of it.
		Go anywhere else in the world.
		And it is not a particularly pretty situation, not a particularly happy place to be if you're not born into the right group.
		If you're in America, you can pretty much do, say, and be whatever you want.
		Now, there are threats to that.
		And my college tour is hoping to sort of head off some of those threats brewing in American universities.
		But what are these people really hating on?
		They live in the best country, the most equal country, the greatest country, the country with the most liberal values anywhere on the planet.
		And they're still not happy.
		Well, fine, that's okay.
		There are obviously things left to fix.
		No one's saying there's no sexism and no racism.
		But why are they so silent when they see these horrific things happen elsewhere in the world?
		And when left-wing politicians decide they want to bring those horrific things into our countries?
		Justin Trudeau wants to bring all of these Syrian, they're not refugees, of course, they're migrants.
		Angela Merkel in Germany, she was talking about a moment ago, she opened the borders.
		Are there 2 million Syrians in Germany?
		Nobody really knows.
		We know it's at least 1.2, 1.4 million.
		Fundamentally altering the fabric of Germany and importing with it, bringing in with it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did we have a crash?
		Are we still recording audio?
		Okay, what happened?
		So we're just going to reboot.
		So if you're watching this on YouTube, you're not watching this.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're not seeing anything.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're not seeing anything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Government man, people are right now.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what it is?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Spiritually minded folks.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because we said feminism and Islam and Merkel.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All together.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They came in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And European Union.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They came in.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they sent.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They sent a bomb through the pipes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We've got the Stuxnet is in here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody is saying that there's no racism, and no one's saying there's no sexism.
		We agree on that.
		But don't you think that some that there is should be combated in some sort of a way?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, sure, but that takes care of itself pretty much.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, when was the last time somebody said a genuinely sexist or a genuinely racist remark in a friend group you were out in the bar with and didn't get corrected by people?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, with my friends, it would all be joking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But a lot of people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course it's joking with everybody.
		I mean, how many white supremacists do you really think are in America compared to black supremacists?
		How many genuinely misogynistic women-hating men do you think they're in America compared to the young women that third-wave feminism has bred?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the third-wave feminism, though, is organized, whereas the misogynist men, most of the time they're isolated, living in cabins in the woods and shit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We have to speculate because we never meet any because we don't know any.
		I don't know any.
		I've never met one, but I've met plenty of man-hating, lesbianic monsters who would be perfectly happy to see men rounded up in camps.
		I've never met a real misogynist, and I try, and I try.
		I mean, wouldn't they be my fans if they existed?
		I mean, you know, I'm always being accused of providing cover for these people, but I've never found any.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that doesn't mean they're not there.
		I mean, you're dealing with a huge number of people.
		But what about the rapists?
		What about the people that murder women?
		I mean, those are real people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, the rape rates have in this country have been going down for 30 years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They have been going down, and that's wonderful, right?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And it's fantastic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But they still happen.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're never going to get rid of that, right?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You cannot, like, language police your way out of bigotry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No one's saying anything.
		You can language police.
		Can't you think culturally we've evolved past where we were a thousand years ago?
		We all agree on that, right?
		Sure, but you're not.
		That's never going to eradicate rape.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's not going to happen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Never?
unidentified		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, really?
		Of course not.
		That's insane.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, once we get to the point where we can read each other's minds, we have some sort of embedded silicone chip that allows us to.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine anything worse than that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's going to happen.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Imagine anything worse than that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't you think we're kind of halfway there?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Read each other's minds.
		I don't even want to read my own mind.
		My God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't you think we're kind of on the way there?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, and actually, it's actually, you know, look, this masculine energy, you know, that everybody in this room has inside of them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But like when you say that with your hands open like a jazz dancer, your blonde bleached energy.
		This tailored army jacket.
		This masculine energy cannot be contained.
unidentified		Listen, Joe, this masculine energy is like just waiting to bust out, okay?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's an explosion.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It can't be contained.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Fuck you.
		I'll try that again.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This masculine energy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you could coach me through it.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's so hard, but you've got like sparkly dog tags on.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Don't you dunno?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They clanked.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They clanked.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sorry.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I had such a nice time last time.
		Isn't having a nice time this time?
		We are having a lovely time.
unidentified		I can see which way this three hours is going already.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Just roast Milo time.
		That's fine.
		Bring it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's all friendly, my friend.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, actually my hair, since you bring it up, is not as nice as last time.
		I had a lovely No, it's okay.
		All right.
		There is a masculine instinct, an impulse to create, to destroy, to do certain things, competitiveness driven by hormones, to the testosterone instinct.
		And Kamil Pali was talking about this in the 90s.
		got to go somewhere.
		And if you look at the What I'm saying, though, is that if you bully men out of the public square and you sort of demonize and ridicule and almost make illegal healthy, normal male behaviors, which is happening in schools and colleges, for sure, and it's also happening in the public square.
		If you make it okay to say almost anything about men, if you sort of bully men out of public life, bad things happen, you know, and people have to, that has to come out somewhere.
		And to your point, fortunately, we do live in evolved enough times where most of the time it's just men letting off steam on the internet in comment sections, I think.
		But that dark, well I say dark, that sort of dangerous energy that is in all men, which is what women like about men, it's certainly what men like about men, in my case.
		You know, root of all the best sex, the reason we went to the stars, the built civilizations, you know, the stuff that makes men awesome does have a flip side to it.
		And it's, you know, it can be dangerous.
		You know, men can be dangerous.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it also can be managed.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		But it can't be managed if you lie about it.
		It can't be managed if you pretend that you can talk your way out of it.
		And it can't, in particular, and most importantly, women can't protect themselves from it if they are lied to about it.
		And this sort of, you know, masculinity is so fragile.
		Men are just socialized to be violent.
		They're not just socialized to be violent.
		You know, this is a hormone thing.
		Men just are more aggressive, you know.
		And if you, I mean, for instance, in colleges, right?
		If you tell women that the worst thing that's ever going to happen to them is somebody putting a hand on their leg and you call that sexual assault and you put that in the sexual assault statistics and you tell women, oh, you can wear whatever you want and you can go out at 3 a.m. wearing a mini skirt and no man has a right to look at you and no victim blame and all the rest of it.
		You're telling women effectively they can put themselves in danger and bad things are going to happen to those women.
		We do live in more civilized times but we also have to recognize that there is something dark and dangerous about men and it is what creates, it is what has driven human civilization to the heights that it has risen to.
		But it is also why men fill most of the prisons, right?
		The sublime geniuses and the knuckle-dragging apes of our species are both male, right?
		And you can see that in a variety of different things.
		People don't take IQ very seriously, but you can see, for instance, in IQ distribution, one of the suggestions that might be the case, you know, sublime musical and artistic geniuses up in the very top end of the IQ scale where women tend not to exist.
		Likewise, you know, down in the knuckle drag of 70 and 80 IQ, women tend not to exist down there either.
		Men are more variable than women in general.
		Men are more complex, I think, than women in some ways.
		And this, you know, the idea that you can just sort of buzzfeed your way out of rape in civilization is just insane.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Buzzfeed your way out.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know, if you publish enough listicles about how masculinity is so fragile and straight white men are the root of all evil that that's somehow going to stop rape.
		No, in fact, I think that's probably counterproductive.
		I think that's probably going to push some men to boil over because they're sick of being lied to and lied about.
		But the good news is rape has been going down for 30 years.
		American college campuses are probably the safest place you could possibly be as a young woman in America today, despite what the left tells you and the lies it tells you about all sorts of things.
		We're in a good place, but the left won't say that or acknowledge victory because that'll put them all out of business.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a strange thing with masculinity where there's ways to manage it, and one of the best ways to manage it is martial arts.
		And it's one of the things that's least encouraged with children and with young men.
		And I think it's critically important to exercise that demon out of your system.
		Get that aggression out, whether it's through some form of sports.
		But there's obviously problems with that.
		One of the big ones being CTE.
		That's the same thing with football and other aggressive.
		It's chronic brain injury, chronic traumatic inception.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But you don't have to be beating each other in the head.
		You could just, you know, you could do athletics.
		You could do something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but my point being, one of the reasons that martial arts are such a good vehicle is because it calms down one of the main issues with men and aggressive behavior, which is insecurity.
		Insecurity leads to a lot more aggressive behavior.
		When men are more secure, they're less likely to engage in ridiculous behavior.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right, and what is the one product?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Are you okay?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		fucking butter coffee.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, um, one of the I don't want this to be your last episode.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I just got back from the gym.
		I'm healthy as fuck.
		Don't worry.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, you look wonderful.
		Thank you very much.
		You look bigger than last time.
		You've been bulking up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Been lifting weights.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pump it up.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nice and healthy.
		We should talk about this.
		I just hired a trainer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you?
unidentified		Really?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I lost, and nobody will know this because I wear such expensive clothes, but I lost 40 pounds in four and a half months.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What'd you do?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Just not easy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Your face looks very thin.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like from last season.
		I saw you in October, right?
		Yeah.
		Look at this in my jawline.
unidentified		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		First sculpted.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And I lost like four inches off my waist in like four and a half months, just being disciplined.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just making sure you worked out.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, really just diet.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And now I'm working on, you know, washing it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Cut sugar out?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		That's the big one.
		Everything, really.
		I was just used to just protein and leaves, really.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you get blood work done?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I haven't, but I do it like twice a year for insurance and everything is off the chart.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You should do it to a real, go to a really good some doctor that understands nutrient levels and the mechanisms for absorption and he can tell you like what you're doing wrong, what you're doing right, what you need to add.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I just hired something.
		I'm on a battery of supplements now because I've just started my lifting program.
		We call them crazy pills because I can never remember the long names for things.
		You'd know what they all are.
		Just these things for GABA things, things for mitochondria, things for testosterone, things of all sorts.
		But when you have you back next year, I'm going to be balked.
		Well, I want to go to Yale this year and give a talk on cultural appropriation, which you mentioned earlier.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you want to do it in a skin-tight leotard?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a different date.
		I want to do it in full Native American costume.
		I want my tits out.
		I understand.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I want to look good.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I want to look hot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, is that cultural appropriation?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a weird, weird.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's just a lie the left.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's just a lie the left tells you to try to control you, to try and make you feel racist, try and make you feel insecure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you say the left.
		Some people that are very insecure that want to do that.
		Like that one small boy who got attacked by that girl in school and she was threatening to cut his hair.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because he had dreadlocks.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He looked really good with them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He looked better than he would have looked without the dreadlocks.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He did.
		No, I'm serious.
		No, I'm serious.
		No, listen, this is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The problem with that is, of course, you know, dreadlocks are not an African-American thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, no, they're not.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But this is precisely my point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The Greeks, the Romans, I mean, they go on forever.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is what I'm going to say to them.
		This is precisely my point.
		You know, cultural appropriation isn't this sort of like weird racism that ends in like 1950 or whatever, the left thing.
		It's how art works.
		Famous cultural appropriators from history include Mozart, Picasso, Wagner.
		Are you going to start saying, oh, Wagner shouldn't have been drawing from the Norse Edder and from the Nibelungen Leed and all of these sort of Norse myths that he used to craft their English Nibelungen because that's cultural appropriators.
		These people are insane.
		They've never read a book.
		They've never read a book.
		They don't understand how history and art work.
		And it's so frustrating to see impressionable, young, smart people start to soak this stuff up because they just never hear the alternatives, which is what my college tour is for.
		Because it just shocks me.
		It's horrifying.
		It's just based on such a such historical ignorance.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a target of recreational outrage.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
		Yeah.
		And it is recreational.
		You're right, Bob.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they found an area.
		Like, that woman who was picking on that boy with the dreadlocks, it was very clear, a girl and boy, whatever.
		It's very clear that she was a bully.
		And he was a small, tiny, feeble little guy, and she was fucking with him for me.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, she was.
		Yes, she was.
		And, you know, this is the self-loathing thing, which so often turns into bullying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And when you hear, you know about her background as well, right?
		She grew up in foster care.
		She had a very horrible childhood.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Damaged is all hell.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Damaged as all.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		She wants the rest of the world to suffer like she thinks she suffered.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Maybe she did suffer, but this is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She probably did.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		She probably did, and I'm sorry about that.
		But cultural appropriation, like having a go at somebody for wearing dreadlocks is not the way to get over your damage.
		The way to get over your damage is therapy and drugs.
		You know, like just to deal with yourself.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's just sad that this is something that has become a thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it's a repeating thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to cut it off at the root because it's nonsense.
		It's garbage.
		Garbage.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if you're capable completely on your own of cutting it off, but I salute you and your attitude.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to do it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just with that Indian outfit?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, no, no.
		I've got a huge variety of outfits planned for this year.
		I'm going to wear everything.
		Everything the left finds offensive.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is the most offensive?
		Native American stuff?
		It's usually the people that were the most malignant.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oppressed.
		And oppressed.
		I think Native American.
		Because it's Yale and they're very hypersensitive.
		Because the smart kids aren't violent like some of them have been.
		The smart kids just lose their minds and just start spurging out.
		So I think the Native American stuff annoys them the most because they know the cultural appropriation element of it is such rubbish and if they actually cared, they would quit the college that is on a burial ground or something, or whatever the hell Yale is built on.
		I think it's because they know it's so absurd and insane.
		Of course, they're even more upset about it because the stakes are so low.
		I think Native American is going to be good.
		I'm not sure if I can do blackface.
		I'll have to ask my editor about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can, and you must.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think I can.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why can't you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dave Chappelle did whiteface on TV.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I think I can.
unidentified		Why not?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think I can.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And so did Mariah Carey's ex-husband.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did he?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The pretty one.
		Nick Cannon.
		Nick Cannon did.
		I did whiteface.
		Yeah, he did.
		I think it's fine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But don't you know that it's impossible to be racist against white people?
		Don't you know?
		Isn't that the most adorable thing that people have created to try to justify black racism against white people?
		That it is not possible.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know what it is?
		And it's this amazing combination of ignorance and condescension.
		Because they're stupid and they've never read a history book and they don't understand how bigotry or hatred works or any kind of historical function or any psychological process whatsoever.
		And at the same time, they're trying to explain to you how you actually don't know what racism means.
		You see, racism isn't just thinking another race isn't as good as yours.
		Racism is actually a complex system of prejudice, oppression.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You only have to, it can only be done if you have power and white people have power.
		Black people don't have any power.
		It's not like there's a black president.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's weird because at my college talk, it was black people forcing me off stage while the university administration told Chicago PD not to intervene.
		I mean, what are you doing?
		Well, this is at DePaul, a Catholic University, which has some of the most enthusiastic abortion advocates on campus anywhere in America.
		I heard, and I don't know if this is true, that they asked to abortion.
		No, they do.
		It's one of the most left-wing places in the world.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Funny expression, enthusiastic abortion advocates.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they love abortions.
		Are you kidding me?
		No, I'm not joking.
		This isn't just me.
		They go like, you know, is it Lindy West, the guardian?
		She's like, you know, shout your abortion.
		It was a feminist hashtag.
		It trended.
		They're proud of it.
		They're proud of murdering babies.
		They are perfectly happy to talk about it.
		They think it's a mark of pride.
		Like, I don't make this stuff up.
		I just laugh along with everybody else.
		You know, I didn't invent this.
		They love abortions.
		It's like a badge of honor.
		It's like scout badges, you know?
		Like, how many of you had, sister?
		Like, I'm serious.
		These people are insane.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm a favor of abortion as long as you can't tell what it looks like.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		As soon as it starts looking like a baby.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're trying to shock me and I am unshockable.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		As soon as it starts looking like...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm never...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Technically, we differ on that one.
		We differ on that one.
		Well, it becomes a different thing.
		Well, I'm not sure.
		Do you think there's a difference?
		I'm hardline on that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're hardline.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're saying you can't tell anybody what they can and can't do with their body.
		Well, it isn't just about the woman's body once she becomes pregnant.
		She's responsible for another body, another soul, another human being.
		And let's not get into the soul thing because we had a very ugly, very unproductive conversation about that last time.
		But just, you know, this is another human being, and that woman has soul custody, if you like, and sole.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you have a cluster of cells, if it's like literally four or five cells.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And just get sucked out.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Stop it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What do we do there?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Stop it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that okay?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Stop it.
		Look, as a gay person, I have to be against abortion because as soon as they start working out what the gay gene, whatever is it, you know, it's us that are going to get chopped.
		Because nobody wants a gay kid if you've got the choice.
		Except from Sally Cohn, the stupidest woman.
		Gay people who are.
		The stupidest woman in America.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who's Sally Cohn?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Sally Cohn.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		She's the stupidest woman in America.
unidentified		Really?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		She's the one.
		Yeah, no, no, she is up against stiff competition.
		She is the stupidest woman in America.
		She's the one who said after Orlando.
		No, I'm serious.
		She is.
		She's the one after Orlando who said, oh, well, you know what?
		Actually, conservative Christians treat us way worse than any of my moderate Muslim friends.
		She just used a Muslim who had been trained in the, you know, had been indoctrinated in this mosque in the north of Orlando, what is it, in Sanford, in Orlando, by this guy who had been there three weeks before and he was on the record as saying the compassionate thing to do was to murder all homosexuals.
		This is what's happening in Orlando.
		This guy, grown up in that environment, went out, murdered 49 gay people and maimed another 50, and she's upset about people who won't bake cakes.
		I mean, she is the stupidest woman in America.
		Anyway, what are we talking about?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't even remember.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Culture appropriation?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Abortions.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Abortion, yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The gay gene, Sally Collins.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, there we go.
		No, she said she famously, well, not famously because she's not famous because she's just a sort of amusement on Twitter, but she, she is on CNN, weirdly.
		She said she'd like a gay kid.
		She specifically wants a gay child, which I thought was just sort of weird and so.
		Well, why not just want a child or want, you know, a smart, athletic, beautiful, popular kid?
		No, she wants a gay one.
		Why?
		Because she's a narcissist and she doesn't care about anything that's going to happen to that child in its lifetime, any of the unhappy things that might happen to that child.
		And I'm not talking about bigotry or whatever.
		Let's say we cure homophobia.
		Great.
		But I'm having sex with somebody and cannot create a child with the person I love in the act of intercourse.
		Like, that's kind of rough, frankly.
		You know, it's not great.
		And a lot of people don't go through their lives thinking about that, but that has occurred to me in the past.
		There are many reasons why you might not choose to be gay, all else being equal.
		And she's just a sort of narcissistic sociopath and weirdo.
		But most people, I think, if we believe the gay lobby, which lies and says people are gays are born this Way, which of course is rubbish.
		If we believe them and we find, and if scientists come up, I mean maybe they're right.
		If they are right and scientists come up with this gay gene, well, what's the first group of people to go?
		It's me.
		Anyway, I don't, I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of shit going on in these conversations, these sentences.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They go one way and another way.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's how my brain works.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you don't think that being born gay is a real thing?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You said that's a good idea.
		No, it's obviously a mixture.
		It's obviously a mixture of nature and nurture, but the gay lobby lies and says it's all...
		The reason they did it is in the 80s and 90s because the religious right were saying that being gay was a bad moral choice.
		It was a bad lifestyle choice, right?
		Remember that expression?
		And, of course, Christians would say, you know, hate the sin, love the sinner, and all the rest of it.
		And there was this problem because gay people were like, well, the gay lobby were like, well, by their logic, they're right.
		What can we do with this?
		Aha, what if we're like blacks?
		Or what if we're like women?
		What if this is just what we are?
		Because that makes them bigots.
		So they invented this born this way thing.
		And the truth is that nobody knows.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, did you ever see the study that was done, I believe it was out of the University of Rome, where they found a direct correlation between very promiscuous mothers and gay children?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Well, there are some people who think that things like that might have dual effects.
		There could be genetic or even epigenetic, if you buy into that stuff.
		There could be epigenetic factors in the womb and hormonal stuff that comes about as a result of a woman having a high sex drive that might result in a gay kid.
		But also, when the kid is born, if the mum's still a whore, then maybe...
		I'm just saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know, if mummy's putting...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Of course it could.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So that one, I do remember that, although I didn't read it closely.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		do remember that one and I think that what I came away from that with was if you have a hoe for a mom there's probably multiple reasons you might end up gay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there was...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They didn't go that far with it because when you start accusing that means you're making these But that's not something a university would ever say.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, because they're idiots.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because they don't actually want to get to the truth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They want a virtue signal.
		There's a little bit of that, but it's also one of those things where it's just really problematic.
		You can't.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You can say that unironically, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can't prove it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, expecting women to tell the truth about their sex lives is like expecting fat people to tell the truth about their calorific intake.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It just doesn't happen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they believe that somehow or another it was some sort of a variation in the X chromosome that made these women not just psychologically attracted to men, but that there was, obviously there's some sort of a physical attraction that heterosexual women have towards men.
		And that should vary, and it will vary on a wide scale.
		And at the extreme end of the scale, they believe this just, these women that are just almost like, you roll a dick in front of them, they're like a kitten on a ball of yarn.
		They just can't help it.
		They know how they feel.
		And that these women will pass this trait on even to their male children.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Interesting, interesting.
		See, my mother's quite frigid, so it just goes to show that the etiology of homosexuality is varied and complex.
		Anyway, the only point I'm making is simply every credible scientist, every reasonable person knows that it is almost certainly a mixture of nature and nurture, and that that mix can change from person to person, right?
		All of these things can get mixed up and end up with somebody choosing to fuck a guy or not fuck a guy, right?
		But the gay lobby, because they were scared and because they wanted an easy answer, came up with this, whatever.
		Now it's embedded in culture, Lady Gaga born this way, and it's a lie.
		I mean, it's a lie.
		Saying that, you know, if something is like not black and white, and it's like probably actually probably about 50-50, saying it's entirely black is a lie, and that's a lie.
		And the gay lobby lies to gay people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's partially born this way doesn't make a good song.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Partially born this way sounds like something you'd see on a Planned Parenthood form.
		It's like something that David Daleiden has exposed in his undercover videos.
		On returning to the abortion thing, I don't...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot going on there to discuss.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And when you're talking about a very small cluster of cells...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		From that moment on, you're locked into this nine-month journey with a human inside your body.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If you want to murder it, then go ahead and murder it, but be honest about what you're doing and don't call it women's bodily choices because that is sociopathy.
unidentified		If it's two cells, it's murder.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think I'm going to have to say yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		That's a hard line.
		You're a hardliner, sir.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm not hardline on very many things, aside from the fact that feminists are ugly and stupid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In Eastern mysticism, what is it?
		48 days where they believe the soul enters the body.
		That's the formation of the pineal gland, and that's the seat of the soul.
		Isn't that like 48 days?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about Eastern mysticism is not an area that I've put in the city.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But if it's like a new house with no one in it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If it's a new house and no one in it, then it's still a house.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's still a house.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but if it gets wrecked and no one has any memories, it's no big deal.
		If you say so.
		I'm just playing Devil's Out Get.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You do that.
		I like that.
		I think you've got...
		Like the E-N-T-J stuff?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, explain that to people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, so there's basically it's this system of personality types.
		And apparently, you can do sort of a 50-question test or whatever, and it'll come up with this thing called INTJ, E-NFP, and it's supposed to be able to predict what kind of job you would be good at and predict your sort of characteristics and behaviors and who else in the world you'll get on with and how you'll succeed in life.
		So I've got like the lawyer's one, the devil's advocate one.
		I think you have it too.
		And it's a sort of voracious appetite for information, love to read and find out about everything, love to talk to smart people, love to be provocative and interesting, and sometimes adopt positions you don't necessarily hold because the debate is fascinating.
		And love just the cut and thrust of intellectual argument.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Discourse.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think you have that too.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, that's, well, if you believe in such things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I do.
		But I think also I'm a different person, you know, every six or seven months.
		I mean, I think I'm constantly evolving and growing and reevaluating, or at least attempting to.
		And I'm definitely a different person than I was 10 or 20 years ago.
		So if you take that into consideration, that's my problem with a lot of these tests.
		What they're doing is they're sort of testing who you are right now.
		And one of the problems with those definitions is the self-defining aspects of it.
		Like you start saying, well, this is me and this is who I am.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Instead of just being a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy, you think you're locked in.
		Yeah, no, I understand.
		That's another one of the things I like about you.
		I should stop complimenting you.
		It's another one of the things I like about you: you have a great, a well-developed sense of intellectual humility, and you're always sort of open and learning.
		And I like that because I think you have to be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's no way I like her like that.
		In this day and age, we have so many subjects that you can extract information from.
		It is impossible to know everything about everything.
		And all these subjects that we're discussing, they all change.
		New data comes in constantly, and to pretend that you know everything about everything is just, you couldn't, you can't, you could do that in 1990.
		You can't do that today.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's foolish.
		What they say about facts in science have a half-life of seven years.
		You know, everything that you think you know in science becomes wrong in under a decade.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And in every field, nutrition, biology, it's just constantly changing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I find that fascinating.
		It's sort of radical uncertainty about everything around you.
		But I think this is why people like to grasp the certainty, and it is why I'm going to hand you an argument here because I know you don't like religion very much.
		This is why people like faith so much because it gives them an anchor in a very uncertain, disintermediated sort of, a very uncertain, you know, globalized, confusing world where everyone is sort of uprooted and thrown in this maelstrom where nothing seems constant or true.
		And local communities have been broken down by big states that take the role of parents and blah, blah, blah.
		I think people cleave to that stuff.
		But they also, of course, cleave to less helpful systems of belief.
		Like feminism.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think you're right.
		And I think you can equate those two together.
		And I think that a lot of what faith does, even if it's not based on a real thing, it's a scaffolding for security.
		It's a scaffolding for a reasonable view of the world you live in.
		Having some moral guidelines that you can follow that allow you to live a life with more positive moments than negative moments because you're sort of gravitating towards those in a Christian sense.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And, you know, I don't get involved in conversations trying to sort of persuade people of the existence of God because it's so completely pointless.
		But let's just say that this is a variety of belief systems from which you can choose, well, which ones are better?
		Because there are some that are good and some that are bad.
		Yes.
		And I would say feminism and the race baiting of Black Lives Matter and Islam are bad.
		Christianity on the whole is good, or at least has had pretty good effects and pretty good influences.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's also had some horrible effects.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially in the past.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We weren't going to do this.
		We're in the position.
		Sure, whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Islam hasn't gone through the Enlightenment.
		I mean, did you ever see it?
		I don't think it's getting one.
		You don't think it's impossible?
		It's a possible change?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think it's highly unlikely that Islam will ever get to it.
		I don't think it's ever going to engage properly with the modern world.
		I think it just needs to be eradicated.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And I've come to this conclusion after all, Lando.
		You know what?
		I've stopped being polite about Islam.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know as one of them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I stopped being polite about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't you think that's a good idea?
		That's a self-hating gay guy as well.
		I mean, wasn't he gay?
		I mean, isn't it?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're self-hating gay Christians.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They don't shoot up nightclubs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But they could.
		They haven't.
		Like, the guy who shot up those people in the movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, that guy wasn't Islamic.
		He was just some nutty fuck.
		This guy just happened to be gay, self-loathing, had guns.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but we're reading into a nutcase, right?
		Various different things.
		And as you correctly say, and I think have pinned on your Twitter account, we have a mental health problem in this country, not a gun problem.
		Which I think is disguised.
		It's a good observation.
		This particular guy clearly drew on things that he was being taught by his faith, and declared that he was doing it in the name of his faith and in the name of ISIS, right?
		At some point, you got to take the guy at his word.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dave Chappelle has a great joke about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to give away his bit, but essentially, it's quite a funny bit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Just do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He goes, you can't claim something right before you do it, like right about to eat a girl's pussy.
		You go, Wu-Tang!
		Like, you can't.
		You can't claim you're in the Wu-Tang clan just by saying it right before you do it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think it's fairly obvious from this guy's history.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he was on the FBI watch list, but it's, yeah, it is funny.
unidentified		It is funny.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		At some point, you've just got to accept when people say they're doing it in the name of Allah.
		Okay, fine, we get it.
		Like, good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that.
		You know, like, him saying that he was doing it for ISIS, that he pledged allegiance to ISIS.
		He didn't have a history with ISIS.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He was on the FBI watch list twice.
		He was a political.
		He was out of Islam.
		He was an Islamic radical, right?
		I mean, you know, there's no reason to have anybody with those surnames in this country at all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whoa, fucking tired of being.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What about Aziz Ansari?
unidentified		Oh, God.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He deserves to be deported solely because he's so unfunny.
		He's so unfunny.
		I would deport boring, unfunny people before Muslims, before feminists, before vapors, before cyclists.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Vapors.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, vapors have got to go.
		People.
		Vapors have got to go.
		They've got to go.
		Over the wall.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Deport.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Now, even the blue cigarettes, or are you talking about the people that are holding on to the water bottles with tubes on the end of them?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The steampunk thing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, whatever.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Those people shouldn't just be deported.
		They should be executed publicly.
		No, I'm serious.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My friend Jonathan has one of those.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jonathan in Canada, if you're hearing this.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course he does.
		He's Canadian.
		Canadian.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a good man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He lives in Alberta.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Gosh, can you imagine?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine living in Alberta?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Alberta's beautiful in the summer.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, please.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you're playing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But you're surrounded by Canada.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Canada is one of my favorite places in the world.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Why?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because the people are awesome.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because it reminds you how great America is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're awesome people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're really nice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, they're not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're very nice.
		They're the nicest fucking people in the world.
		They really are.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't like nice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't like nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you like me, and I'm nice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're lovely.
unidentified		You're lovely.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're like my little exception.
		I'm a little exception.
		You don't look nice.
		I think that's how I get over it, you know?
		You look like you're about to rob me, which I think is the only reason I can put up with your nice personality.
		You know, because I can sort of be like clutching my wallet with one hand and my dick with the other.
		Just kidding.
unidentified		Woo!
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Just kidding.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Didn't mean it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Canadians, they are nice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're great people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's a lost country.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Russell Peters, Canadian.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		New kit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Love him to death.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		New kit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the new prime minister.
		Oh, is he doing that?
		he's doing some odd stuff.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He's so good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's doing some odd stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This new thing about the identity cards of having the option of not having a gender.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You could fill out a tack helicopter if you want.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Gender neutral.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can be gender neutral.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		With the national anthem.
		The Canadian national anthem.
		They're taking him and her out of it or something.
		They've done it.
		No, no, I know I didn't make this up.
		You can look this up if you're listening, because I know I didn't make this up.
		The Canadian national anthem, they're removing gender-specific references from it.
		I was like, these people are insane.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's what's insane about it.
		What are the numbers we're talking about?
		The people that have a massive issue with a male or female gender?
		Personally.
		Who wants to be gender neutral?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, lots of young kids because they're confused and because they're told that's the thing to do.
		These people's frontal lobes haven't formed yet, right?
		And they're being told by culture and by their professors and by everything around them that, you know, they don't have to be a man or a woman.
		Of course it is.
		This is what some of the transgender people call...
unidentified		What is this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Canadian Parliament is close to adopting a bill that would change the national anthem, O Canada, to make it gender neutral.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And is this because of the new Prime Minister?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is Trudeau.
		This is Trudeau.
		And when I said he was gay, I don't necessarily mean that he sucks, Dick, although I'm sure he has.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, for sure.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Look at that.
unidentified		Really?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that is a face just begging to be come on.
		I mean, this is...
		I've seen men like this in clubs before, whose wives pick them up afterwards.
		No, I know, I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do the wives pick them up?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you think the wives are in on it?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do the wives have their own boyfriends.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, good lord.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sordid affair.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Sordid, disgusting.
		Disreputable way of way to live.
		No, this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He looks like a manly man.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Are you kidding me?
		Justin Trudeau with floppy, gay hair.
		No, no, he's got that puffy figure.
		He's got that puffy figure, that sort of like over.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right there, handsome man.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who does he remind me of?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He looks gay.
		And I don't mean gay in the good way.
		I mean he looks like a fag.
		I mean he looks lame, weak, cuffy.
		He's a cuck.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know.
		He didn't have a full definition of cuck until a week ago.
		We got into it with Joe Schilling on the podcast.
		I thought cuck was just a guy whose wife gets fucked and he sort of cries.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the porn thing.
		Yeah, that's what he cranks, in fact.
		Have you ever had a crank?
		A crying wank?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's called cranking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I didn't know.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, apparently.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So the cuck would sit there and cry.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I had a crank after Brexit when the pound plummeted and I checked how much my portfolio was worth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were upset but happy at the same time?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, but that's a crank.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But don't you think that's a temporary drop and we just have to deal with the pressure?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course, of course, of course, of course.
		Yeah, no, it's going to rebound.
		I mean, you know, if you actually don't listen to, if you don't read what Bloomberg and MSNBC are tweeting and you zoom out on the prino, on the on the pound and zoom out on the footseat, actually it doesn't look so bad at all.
		You know, it's a lot of scammers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's weird to me that everybody was always so concerned about a one-world government.
		That was a big fear.
		There was a big fear of a new world order, a one-world government.
		It was one of the big conspiracy fears.
		But then, when England decides to be its own country and exit the European Union, everybody's terrified the sky's falling.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're different people.
		They're different groups.
		So you had, I mean, there are some very smart people I speak to who think that globalization is basically over and that this push to, you know, to have, this push for open borders around the world hasn't worked and people don't like it.
		And, you know, if you look, if you read the work of like Jonathan Haidt or whatever, you will discover that it's not a racism thing, it's an evolutionary thing.
		People like being with their own tribe and that's not a racism thing.
		That's just that is an evolutionary advantage because you don't have to like get over all of the cultural barriers and just get on with doing shit.
		You're seeing all across the world, not just in Europe as a result of the globalist policies of Angela Merkel and all the rest of it, in Germany, Brexit in Europe, and the rise of Trump in America, people returning to nationalism, by which we don't mean racism, by which we mean simply pride in nation, culture, and all the rest of it.
		And the West is the best.
		Europe and America are the best bit of the world.
		And people who can't get wrapped their heads around that don't understand why people might wish to preserve the cultures that created Mozart and Shakespeare and Wagner.
		They don't understand why, they also don't understand the economic pressures on those people who had the global one world government conspiracy theories.
		Well, they tended to be lower income people who were worried about centralization of power away from them.
		These American liberals who were crowing about the Browning of America, all this kind of stuff.
		Well, they're worried about their culture, their families, depressed wages, economics as well, all that kind of stuff.
		The people who are worried, on the other hand, about this now are the elites.
		So you're talking about two different groups.
		And this is really the main fight now.
		This election in America and most of the big elections and referendums over the next 10 years are going to be about two things.
		One of them driven by economics and one of them driven by culture and politics.
		The economics one is elites versus the proles.
		It's the money international few versus the rest of us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Proles being proletariat for people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right, you know, sort of the rest of us who are worried about wages, worried about immigration, worried about culture, worried about the fate of our country.
		And the other one, of course, is men v.
		Women, which is entirely manufactured by the left.
		And I see the American election entirely through the prism of men versus women.
		I think Trump versus Hillary is a clash of the Titans between the strong, blustery, outward-looking, strong male archetype versus the statist establishment feminism of Clinton and the Democrats.
		This election really is men v.
		Women.
		And it's not nice to put it in that way, but the left did it not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen the compilation of the things that she has said that she did versus the things that the FBI has said that she did?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God, that woman.
		I have to be very careful.
		I have a day job, aside from doing fun things like this.
		Yes, I do have a day job as an editor at a Bright Bar, so I have to be very careful what names I call people.
unidentified		Yes, but remarkable, remarkable.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The lies are out there, you can say it, very clear, remarkable, very obvious.
		She did not tell the truth.
		She lied about how many devices.
		If you go to there's a Instagram page that has a compilation of it.
		I think it's called Liberal Tears.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		It goes back and forth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		It shows what the FBI said she did and what she said she did.
		She said she only used one device.
		She never sent anything that was classified.
		And they said she used multiple devices, sent many classified things.
		And they're gone.
		I mean, it's the difference between what the FBI statement was and what she said.
		So she's clearly being deceptive.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But the Department of Justice is on her side, though.
		I mean, you know, they said that was it, Kami, Komey, Kami?
		I can't remember his name.
		His name was Mario.
		The guy says, we've never prosecuted.
		He said this yesterday or day before.
		We've never prosecuted somebody for doing what Hillary did in a way of trying to sort of explain away why they weren't pressing charges.
		They have.
		They've issued press releases about people in the past.
		I tweeted it yesterday.
		Well, what about Petraeus?
		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		General Petraeus.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is the whole reason why he was removed.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They have issued press releases crowing about finding these guys in the past.
		You know, this just shows you how dumb Fox News can be sometimes, thinking that there was going to be an indictment here.
		Everybody knew Democrats don't indict Democrats, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, don't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Democratic presidency.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Hillary was never going to be indicted with Obama in the White House.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It was not going to happen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not only that, if she does get indicted and she gets removed from the race, who the fuck is there on the Democratic side?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Unless Joe Biden.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Get Bernie back in the Bible.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But I like Bernie.
		No, I like him.
		And I like him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I do too.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, look, the Bernie supporters fall into two camps.
		They're like the crazy gender activists and race baiters, but I think that's probably only 20% of Bernie people.
		And the rest of the Bernie fans aren't that dissimilar from Trump fans.
		They're people who don't like the establishment, are sick of being lied to, are fed up of the consequences of globalization on native populations, if you like, worried about all sorts of things.
		And they express themselves very differently from the Trump fans.
		They don't use the same language.
		But even the, I mean, the polls are saying, what is it, 20, 30% of Bernie supporters might come over to Trump in the election.
		It doesn't surprise me at all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because they're very similar people.
		I liked Bernie's supporters, and I like Bernie Saunders.
		I think he's all right.
		Hillary's the enemy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, she is the establishment.
		I mean, she is as established a politician as you could possibly get, and she is deep, deep, deep in the system.
		And there's just a lot of darkness to that.
		There's a lot of danger to that.
		There's a lot of danger to embracing that just simply because she has a vagina.
		My wife is going to vote for her.
		Just because she has a vagina.
		I do all those things to her.
		It doesn't help.
		Here's the video.
		Here's the video.
		Listen to this.
hillary clinton ▲ ● ▼		Listen to this.
		Classified material to anyone.
		There is no classified material.
unidentified		110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.
hillary clinton ▲ ● ▼		I provided all my emails that could possibly be work-related.
unidentified		Several thousand work-related emails that were not among the group of 30,000 emails returned by Secretary Clinton.
hillary clinton ▲ ● ▼		I thought using one device would be simpler.
unidentified		She also used numerous mobile devices to send and to read email.
hillary clinton ▲ ● ▼		There were no security breaches.
unidentified		It is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton's personal email account.
hillary clinton ▲ ● ▼		It was my practice to communicate with State Department and other government officials on their .gov accounts.
unidentified		Hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account.
hillary clinton ▲ ● ▼		No doubt that we've done exactly what we should have done.
unidentified		They were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified emails.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is very nicely structured.
unidentified		We cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts.
		Thank you.
		To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences.
hillary clinton ▲ ● ▼		Americans will find that interesting, and I look forward to having a discussion about that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's a crook.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		She's crooked Hillary as the sainted God-Emperor Donald Trump.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's just a liar.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that is just a liar.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Aren't you looking forward to the debates, though?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I am, but the problem is, like, he's going to crucify him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He starts name-calling and all the jazz that goes along with that, and he says preposterous things about Mexico, about them being a bunch of rapists.
unidentified		And next thing you know, someone's doing the rapists.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He never said that.
		Never said that.
		He never said Mexico was a bunch of rapists.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he didn't say it that way.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, he said Mexico is not sending his best people and that many of the people who come over are rapists and criminals.
		That's all true.
		And what has happened since?
		Now the conservative press has been more alert and awake to this and been re-emboldened, if you like.
		Look at it.
		We're finding these guys that are caught for raping and killing and stealing things, and they've been deported six times.
		We're finding all this poor girl that got murdered by an immigrant and been deported four times.
		He's not wrong.
		You might not like the way he says it, but he's not wrong.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The way he says it is definitely problematic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it really hurts the people who are in the world.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		People that excise that word from your vocabulary.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Problematic?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because it's, don't you know?
		It's a progressive word.
		That's what they say on campuses.
		Actually, I find what you're saying, Brole, problematic.
		No, I'm serious.
		I'm serious.
		You need to get rid of this.
		You need to get rid of this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it is a problem.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You could communicate with that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Find a different word because it's callous.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That is a social justice dog whistle.
		When people hear you say problematic, they think campus feminism.
		It's more problematic was ever, but language sometimes accelerates past us, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like retard.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, retard used to be fine.
		Retard is fine.
		Retard is fine, and retarded is fine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		love you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Gay for...
		Oh, thank you.
		And you can have a fag pass for gay, queer, and faggot, because they're fine too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but people are not going to accept it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You could use it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Someone told me, I had a discussion because I called my dog a faggot in one of my comedy specials.
		And it was just, it was a stupid bit.
		And the guy said, this is where it was really, it was a Comedy Central guy.
		He goes, only we can use that.
		And I go, what?
		And he goes, yes, it's our nigger.
		And I said, that's the gayest shit I've ever heard in my life.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, but that's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a real conversation I had with a real person.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But no, I don't agree with all of this.
		I think words should be liberated.
		And once you liberate them, you rob them of their ability to hurt people.
		You rob them of their ability to wound.
		And you stop giving them power.
		And, more important than that, you don't just rob racist, sexists, and homophobes of a word in their arsenal, but you also rob social justice warriors of the ability to bully and police and publicly shame people for using words that are fine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the problem is when you give words magical powers.
		And words are about intent.
		And you know, when, you know, when someone does, like, what was the Louis C.K. joke?
		He goes, what if someone's just being a faggot?
		You know, it doesn't have anything to do with being gay.
		Like, did you know the people from Phoenix are called Phoenicians?
		Oh, shut up, faggot.
unidentified		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		I recorded an episode of my show yesterday with Anne Corter, and she said, that's gay.
		And I said, I hope you don't mean homosexual.
		I hope you mean gay in its prestige meaning, in my view, which is rubbish, lame, crap, Hillary supporting, immigrant-loving.
unidentified		You know, that's my immigrant-loving, but my family were immigrants.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you know, I mean bad immigrants.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bad immigrants.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know what I mean.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		None of my family are bad immigrants.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't mean handsome, charming, successful, blonde-haired British immigrants.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean Donald Trump's rapists.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, those bad ones.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Those bad ones.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The brownies.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's got nothing to do with skin colour.
		It's about culture.
		It's about culture.
		And this is what's happening in...
		Look, of all people, I don't have a problem with brown skin.
		But as you know, it's about culture.
		And when you import, as happening in Germany, these barbaric medieval attitudes to women and gays, bad things happen.
		And actually, that does a disservice to the barbarians.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And that is a real problem, right?
		And that's a problem that the leftist does not want to face.
		There are cultures, just like there are some of the, there are terrible people in all cultures, right?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We can all cultures that are not as good as ours.
		Our prisons have the choice.
		We shouldn't import them here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Our prison system is filled with people that have done terrible things, right?
		So even in the best country in the world, there are people in this country that have done terrible things.
		But there's a general attitude about women in the Middle East that has been supported by the people that are in charge of the countries, like Saudi Arabia, where the women could not drive.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's endemic.
		Well, that one I'm with them on.
		No, sometimes.
		No, no, no, no.
		Sometimes good things can happen for bad reasons.
		It's good that the chicks don't drive.
		They've accidentally stumbled on a good rule.
		Women should not be behind the wall.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		As a heterosexual male, if I want a girl to come over my house and fuck, you should be sending a car for her.
		Oh, right.
		But what if I was younger?
		Send your chauffeur.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Send your chauffeur.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Then you should have some sort of disreputable midnight tryst somewhere.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes it's good to be able to outside.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's good old carriage for her.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She comes over with her own pillow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		With her own pillow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a good girl.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you make people obviously?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Some girls like their own pillow.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They have so fucked up.
		Women are a mess.
		Women are a mess.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No guy comes over to a girl's house with her own pillow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		With his own pillow.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's giving me an idea though, because I've got those lovely $250 duck-down pillows.
		They're lovely.
		But I live out of hotels.
		I should start taking my own pillows everywhere.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not a bad idea.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because I sleep in my own bed about three days every two months.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, honestly, it's such a luxurious experience to be at home.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are you traveling that much?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I live in hotels.
		I'm in a hotel in West Hollywood all this month.
		Yeah, no, I just don't go home anymore.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know you're constantly doing these tours.
		I saw the one that you did with Stephen Crowder and Christina Hoffsam.
		Christina Hofsamer.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You had her on the show.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She was amazing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I loved that show.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I love her.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Aside from mine, that was my favorite show of yours ever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, she's fantastic.
		She's fantastic.
		And Crowder gets a lot of shit, but he makes some great points and he's videos of shit.
		And he does a lot of funny stuff.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think he's funny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the Brexit thing that he did?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I always tweeted.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I catch up on stuff like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I tweeted.
		See if you could find it.
		When him and his co-host, when what was the guy named?
		Nigel Farage.
		Is that his name?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nigel Farage is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The guy who orchestrated the Brexit.
		There's a video of him addressing, I guess, the Parliament.
		Is that what he's addressing?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, European Parliament.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And he's roasting them, basically.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's roasting them.
		And then, here, go live with this.
		Go full screen so we could.
		Yeah, don't play it.
		Go all the way back to the beginning.
		Hold on.
steven crowder ▲ ● ▼		This is what happened with Brexit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's got a hat on.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Looks British.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he looks very British.
steven crowder ▲ ● ▼		He's a little bit of weird looking dude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		His co-host looks like the queen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Finally, he's got a bolder hat.
steven crowder ▲ ● ▼		He's got the referendum after the vote.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He's silly.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He started for the European Union.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's very funny.
steven crowder ▲ ● ▼		And he just has gone viral.
		He explained in his words as to why the Brexit happened.
		And he sat down, he educated them, he tried to enlighten them, but he also made it sting just a little bit.
		So we want to show you some highlights from these clips of Nigel Farage.
		Let's roll clip one.
nigel farage ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it funny?
		You know, when I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to lead a campaign to get Britain to leave the European Union, you all laughed at me.
		Well, I have to say, you're not laughing now, are you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, burn.
unidentified		Burn.
unidentified		Oh, Nigel!
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This reminds me of a great...
unidentified		Yes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It reminds me of a great, I think it's a Bob Monkhouse joke.
		And he says something like, 10 years ago, I told you all I was going to be a comedian.
		Well, no one's laughing now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It gets crazy.
		Watch this.
		They go deeper.
unidentified		Watch this.
unidentified		Oh, boom.
steven crowder ▲ ● ▼		Love that.
steven crowder ▲ ● ▼		I don't care what you say about him, but that man is a P-I-M-P.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
steven crowder ▲ ● ▼		Nobody's laughing now.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Spell that out in my head.
steven crowder ▲ ● ▼		If you expect This segment to get better, don't like I said, we're going to have people far more authoritative on the Brexit, just kind of like the UK with the American election.
		It's entertainment.
		Sorry, it's been an intense few weeks.
		This is last week of Cultural Appropriation Month.
		Brexit, good on you guys.
		You got some independence.
		You're going to be entertained this evening.
		Sons?
		We have some other clips, don't we?
unidentified		We have some more clips.
steven crowder ▲ ● ▼		We have some more clips where he sat down and he talked to them about...
		So let's get to some of the substance of his comments.
		Roll the next clip, Doug.
nigel farage ▲ ● ▼		But what I would like to see is a grown-up and sensible attitude to how we negotiate a different relationship.
		Now, I know.
		I know that virtually none of you have ever done a proper job in your lives.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God!
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I get it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I liked him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, he is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is a real issue with politicians.
		That's a huge issue.
		And also university teachers.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's worse than that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Professors.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's worse than that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Assistant professors.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Universities, it's worse than that.
		It used to be the case in America that the faculty ruled the roost.
		And the faculty could pretty much do what they wanted in colleges.
		But the balance of power has shifted in American universities now toward administrators.
		Toward basically the people who run the money.
		Because universities are now giant, partly taxpayer-funded, partly government-owned businesses that need to bring in donations and need to keep admissions numbers up and have these gigantic campuses with luxurious facilities and all the rest of it.
		Education is taken very much a back seat to the business of providing a home or even, as some people want, a safe space, away from home for four years and charging vast fees to do it.
		They become sort of holiday camps, very well-appointed holiday camps.
		The people with the power now in universities are the administrators.
		And to be a university administrator, you need to know even less than to be a professor.
		In fact, it's almost compulsory to go through life with a cluster of conspiracy theories, victimhood and grievance politics, and total ignorance of history to run a university in America now because you have to pander to and believe a variety of things that simply aren't true.
		For example, about campus rape culture.
		You need to not only enable but fund feminist groups on campus and all sorts of, you know, the diversity office and the women's, you know, and the women's studies department and the blah, blah, blah.
		All these things that are happening on campuses, you know, putting other kids' tuition fees, putting the tuition fees of people who are studying engineering and maths and physics into academic departments and student services and all sorts of other things that simply peddle lies to children.
		They are spreading conspiracy theories based on shoddy advocacy research and balmy social science nonsense from the 1970s and filling vulnerable, impressionable young people's heads with it.
		And it is obscene.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like what kind of conspiracy theory?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, like the patriarchy.
		The patriarch is a conspiracy theory.
		The patriarchy is an idea dreamt up by feminists, which basically, I mean, what it really boils down to is my life is bad.
		So this is the thing I don't like about Bernie supporters.
		They go to the world and they start on this basis.
		It's my life's bad.
		Who's to blame for it?
		Which of you are at fault for my life not being as good as I want it to be?
		Now, this is the victimhood and grievance sort of politics of the social justice left, particularly the sort of middle and upper middle class social justice left.
		Now, these women's studies departments tell young girls, if there's anything wrong in your life where you're miserable, you're unhappy, and anything bad ever happens to you, it is the patriarchy.
		It's this sort of Voldemort-esque conspiracy theory that can explain everything.
		And of course, as anybody with any sense who actually reads books knows, that any explanation that's a bit too good to be true generally is.
		And the patriarchy, in fact, does not explain any of the things that are wrong in women's lives.
		And if you look at the real data, you discover that if there is a patriarchy, it ain't doing a very good job.
		You know, of course, you know, 97% of workplace fatalities are male.
		Men are falling behind in education.
		There is no wage gap.
		And in fact, women have a huge competitive advantage going for many jobs.
		Blah, blah, blah.
		Everyone who's listens to us regularly will know all this stuff by heart already.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But let's explain the wage gap thing, because it's one of the things that gets trumpeted out.
		Trumped.
		Trumpeted out quite a bit.
		Trumped.
		Where people don't understand.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I get a semi just at the sound of the word now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They don't understand.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I told the New York Times I was Trump sexual, and I was trolling them, but they saw that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I was trolling them, but they printed it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Good job.
		I recognized the troll.
		And I think they did too, but they're obligated to.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you presently find Donald Trump sexually attractive?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, yeah, I'm Trump sexual.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's hilarious.
		Well, they don't.
		Yeah, I don't think they know what to do with you.
		But that's beside the point.
		Let's explain what the issue is with the wage gap.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so there's two ways to do it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		One of them involves a little bit of economics, and people at home sometimes are like, oh, I can't deal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's dirty math is what it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, and they start talking about it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		PBish economics.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But listen, if you're at home and you're thinking, I really can't be bothered with this, buck the fuck up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Women make 75 cents to every dollar a month.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Lies, lies.
		So there are, of course, reasons why men and women may have different roles in society in some of these.
		Let's pick an example.
		Men don't bear children.
		Now, of course, the left is trying to check.
		I saw, oh, God, sorry to go off track.
		This is how my brain works.
		I'm so scatty.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No worries.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But The Guardian in June, I saw this other story about this guy who was like, this trans guy trying to breastfeed a kid, and his quote is like, I think that was a joke.
		No, no, it's not.
		It's not.
		Children don't know what gender you are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I thought that was a joke.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I thought that was someone like an onion type thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's just.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is a guy with glasses that has a baby on his tip.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's not fake.
unidentified		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I started laughing when I saw that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was like an almost certainly Canadian.
		Do you know what?
		I could look it up.
		I wouldn't put a lot of money on it, but I put a bit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But to unpack it quickly.
		Oh my God, this is real.
		I'm a transgender dad in a gay relationship who breastfeeds.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is real.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What if the Guardian story was?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is real?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a gay tranny breastfeeding the kid, and he says, kids don't know what gender you are.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Near the end of my pregnancy.
		Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
		Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
		So he was born a woman then.
		Then it is a woman.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Who knows?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, it's a woman.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Transgender man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because he's got a mustache and a goatee.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Which means he was born hormones.
		And he's now becoming a man.
		So basically, he's a man breastfeeding a child.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So that kid is going to get like super testosterone.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We're told.
		We're told that we're not allowed to.
		Born female.
		He's a man.
		We have to do this now.
		He is a man.
		You can't even refer to him as a former female, whatever.
		That's transphobic.
		He's a man, so I was right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I would say transphobic because phobia means fear.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, irrational fear.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And there's nothing irrational about fearing trannies.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're fucking terrifying.
unidentified		No, I'm serious.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're so scary.
		I was on a chat show with somebody, right?
		And she was like this man who's now a woman.
		And she said, I like how you call him she, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		At least you're doing the proper thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Damn it.
		I'm going to get fired.
		We have a company policy about this.
		And she said, I've worn the female garb and I've worn the male garb.
		And men don't know they're born.
		I get so many, you know, as I walked through life as a man, people treated me, you know, perfectly normally.
		But now, people look at me very strangely.
		It took every ounce of my self-control not to say, you're a man in a dress.
		Of course they look at you weirdly.
		You're terrifying.
		When babies cry at you, they're not crying because they're transphobic.
		They're crying because you look horrifying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you see Caitlin Jenner or Bruce?
		Oh, can we call Bruce?
		No, Bruce.
		Our house style at Bright Barcelona when Ellen was grilling her, him about gay marriage.
		And she was saying she's a traditionalist.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, basically, I'm a traditional girl.
		Her fucking rubber face, her face can't move because she shot it up full of Botox.
		What the fuck?
		What the fuck ever happened to loving yourself?
		That's what confuses the shit out of me.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's why I'm telling you, it's self-harm extended out into the rest of your life because you didn't pick up a razor blade when you were 15.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, kids, cut yourself.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm kidding.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if that's what it is, but there's something very bizarre about encouraging people to shoot exogenous hormones into their body and get their chin slashed off so that they look more like a man or woman.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I very firmly believe, I very firmly believe, that we will look back on this period in time like we do now on Victorian electroshock therapy and wonder how we could ever have been so monstrously callous as to allow these people who have mental illnesses to mutilate their bodies.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And of course how idiotic and authoritarian it was of us to expect the taxpayers to pick up the bill.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That gets really weird for sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I mean I feel like if somebody wants to do it and it's their body, I have no right whatsoever to tell them they can't do it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh you do.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But it is very interesting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you should.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Why should I be allowed to do that?
		You're not idiots.
		Oh, that's so stupid, Mike.
		Why should anybody just let it do it?
		I mean, who cares, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But why not?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We don't allow people with mental illnesses on the whole to live out their delusions, except when it is in their medical interest.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is mental illness?
		Okay, let me ask you this.
		If a person pays their bills, they're nice to people, they function normally, they pay their taxes, they show up for work hard time.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're not a man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They want to be a man.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're not a man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But they want to be one.
unidentified		Tough.
unidentified		Why shouldn't they?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But you're not a man.
		You know what?
		There's a serious answer to this, which is that it is by no means clear, and you wouldn't know this just by reading the media, but it is by no means clear that that is the most effective and humane treatment pathway for people with this particular agreed.
		It is not clear at all.
		Now, what we should be doing, unless you just want some sort of chaotic free fraud.
		Look, I know the easy argument, the easy libertarian argument is let people do what they want themselves.
		They're not hurting anybody else.
		Just don't let the taxpayer pay for it, right?
		Well, yeah, fine.
		But my natural, I mean, I think my compassion kicks in at that point and says to me, do we want to allow people who are mentally ill to mutilate themselves?
		If somebody was a schizophrenic, would we give them the razor blade they're asking for?
		Because they want to hack off their own arm.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but what if a girl wants size double E tits?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Don't she's just got, well, just got good sense.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But what if a girl gets good?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Plastic surgery is just preposterous tits.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Plastic surgery is just plastic.
		Well, that's tending into the same kind of disorder, and we shouldn't let them do that either.
		Maybe there should be rules about how big you can go.
		A little plastic groom.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Should there be tit rules in this country?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		A little plastic surgery is just good grooming.
		But I think...
		Oh, sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Will we have tit rules?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Imagine a day?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, it's not about the size.
		Okay, it's not about the size of the breast.
		It's about the mental state of the person who wants to change their body.
		And that's what we're going to do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But what if someone loves preposterous Jessica rabbit tits?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What if they want to pay for themselves?
		I don't know.
		I mean, if they want pendulous breasts the size of watermelons.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Freak shows.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sideshow.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Freak shows.
		No, I don't think you should be able to do that.
		Why not?
		Because it's awful.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Should you be able to tattoo your whole body?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it depends.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, my arms.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you're totally tattooed.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's pretty hot.
		Is that what you're doing?
		You should be allowed because it's hot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		To you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But some people don't like it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're wrong.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, isn't that subjective?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, shouldn't those giant boulder tits be subjective as well?
		When the girls get those big, thick, blue veins.
		Those are bizarre.
		Those neck veins.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		How big do you like your tits?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like normal ones.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Like C-cups, fine.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Show me something that's crazy.
unidentified		Like C-cups.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		D's a little bit more.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a connoisseur.
		So I don't know what cups me.
		That's like a C-cup.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a nice size breasts.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look good.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Huh.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But you shouldn't get them if you're a man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, yeah, well, Bruce has them, right?
		He has them now.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was one of the weird things about him is he went on the Diane Sawyer thing and said he still wants to be Bruce, still wants to be a him, still wants to be called a him.
		And then immediately after, because of all the attention, gets his jaw shaved down, has massive facial reconstruction surgery.
		I mean, it was like, it was instantaneously and changed his name to Caitlin.
		And it was also right after the Diane Sawyer interview that he plowed into that lady and sent her into oncoming traffic and killed her.
		And it was, it is so bizarre that that stuff can get discussed.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think he was declared innocent of that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean, declared innocent?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't he?
		He was hit the car?
		Wasn't he acquitted of manslaughter?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, he definitely was being careless, definitely hit that car.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course he was.
		Because he's insane.
		He's insane.
		He shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel.
		He shouldn't be given guns.
		He should not be given access to surgeons.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's like struggling with that face to try to make sounds with his mouth or her mouth or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
unidentified		Have you...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is that?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is an insane person.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is a person whose mind needs therapy and drug.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a person who grew up with, well, existed with a bunch of incredibly famous, very powerful women and probably secretly wanted to be like.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He's going to be one of them, of course.
		Look, all I'm saying for sure, outside of our, you know, joking around, is that it is by no means clear that transition surgery is the best route for these people.
		It does not, according to all of the data we have, all of the studies that does not significantly or at all really affect suicide rates or depression.
		People who've had this surgery do not get better.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It is past.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		A few of them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A few of them do.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But not many.
		And 40% of them who have it want it reversed.
		My suggestion is, shouldn't we just be a bit more cautious about it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you are certainly saying some very conservative things about that in terms of how you should approach your own body and your life.
		Like getting sexual reassignment.
		No, but I don't mean conservative like right-wing.
		I mean like cautious.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, cautious.
		And I think we should be cautious before we mutilate our bodies because there's no coming back from it.
		There's no comfort.
		Once you've cut off.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And there's a lot of regret.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Once you've cut your cock off, that's it.
		That's it.
		Everything else in life you can reverse.
		Your reputation, you can restore with hard work and a commitment to redressing whatever wrongs you did to people.
		Your career, you can make it better.
		You can fix almost anything in life, but you cut your genitals off.
		Biological reality is biological reality, right?
		And you can fix almost anything else about yourself, almost anything else about your life.
		But there are certain facts, certain anatomical facts about men and women.
		And once you cut that thing off, that's it.
		It's done.
		And I'm just suggesting that maybe we shouldn't do it, for instance, to children for a start, giving them hormone therapy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We shouldn't allow people...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right, but no.
		But I'm saying to you, what if somebody was 18, 19, you know?
		18, 19 years old and says, I know and have known for 10 years that I'm a woman.
		Would you let them change themselves?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I thought I wanted to be married.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Your frontal lobe isn't even fully formed at that age.
		You're not even really a person yet.
		You are a burgeoning person, right?
		You are growing into the person you will be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And that's why you can abort them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Stop it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're not really people yet.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Stop it.
unidentified		Stop it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This level of sophistry is beneath you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You might be 800-plus podcasts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The first time someone said sophistry.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Unless you said it during the last episode.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Sophistry.
		This is the headline on Bright Bot Tomorrow.
		Joe Rogan in favor of 18-year-old abortions.
		How many weeks is that?
		How many weeks is 18 years?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm bad at math.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My issue is, wasn't there a time where we said you should just love who you are?
		Like, love who you are.
		And if you can tell me, but there's the big difference between sort of accepting who you are, and there's some people that just have unfortunate genetics, right?
		And there's some people that maybe wish that they're a woman or maybe wish there were something else.
		And there's one thing between, there's a difference between dressing up or pretending, but once you start getting into full-on injecting female hormones into a male's body and changing things and then physical surgery, I am not against it.
		I think I am, like you said, I'm a silly libertarian.
		I feel like you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do with your body.
		But it is a very dangerous road, and there's a host of different people out there that will tell you that they've done it and it was a huge mistake.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, there are.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		40% of them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But no one wants to address that.
		That is something that the left never wants to address in their embracing of the transgender culture.
		Do whatever the fuck you want to do.
		Say it again.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I just can't get behind it because I see how...
		Yes, it is.
		But for them, look, they've forced us to take a moral position on a medical issue, right?
		This is not a moral issue.
		This is a medical issue.
		If it is the case that people have a disorder or a condition, if they have dysphoria, whatever word they want to come up with for it, that means that they were born with the wrong brain in the wrong body.
		Never mind the fact that we're always told that gender is socialized.
		Apparently, suddenly, abruptly, now you can have a male brain, such a thing as a male brain.
		The leftists.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Gender is a social construct.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Unless you're trans.
		In which case, you've got a male brain, a female body.
		What a load of crap.
		Do these people really expect us to believe this shit?
		They think that we have the same level of cognitive dissonance that they have.
		They think that we are as dumb as they are.
		They think that we don't think things through like they don't think things through.
		Well, we do.
		We do think these things through.
		And so do most people at home.
		And they are told on the one hand, if they even bother to get this far into a Guardian editorial, that gender is a social construct and all of this kind of stuff.
		And yet at the same time, that masculinity is toxic.
		And at the same time, you can have a men.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And the only time you're allowed to embrace feminine virtue, like really sexy clothes, short skirts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is if you're a tranny.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If you're a tranny.
		If you're a tranny.
		Yeah, it's like, oh, you're so empowered.
		You're brave and fabulous.
		You're stunning and brave is the phrase.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Stunning and brave.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Stunning and brave.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A hero.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing heroic about cutting off.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're a firefighter.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They should get the purple heart for cutting their cocks off, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's just strange that a woman who wears short skirts and high heels and a lot of makeup, that is a poor thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's fine as long as you're a man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		As long as you're a man.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You see, we're even better at being women than women are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, woman of the year.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, with Glamour magazine, Woman of the Year.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Woman of the Year.
		Six months after being a woman, he won Woman of the Year.
		This bitch has been trying to win that fucking award for 30, 40 years.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There's some good ladies out there.
		There are some good girls who missed out on that.
		Is there anything men can't do?
		We're better at everything.
		You know, I've had male cleaners and female cleaners.
		Men, always better.
		I've had male cooks and female cooks.
		Male cooks, always better.
		I'm just saying, I mean, this is the problem with the trans project.
		It's profoundly sexist because, you know, the trans and homophobic, by the way, because I'm convinced of this.
		The trans project is profoundly homophobic because what it's telling parents right now, and this is the 40% that want it reversed, and probably then some.
		They're telling, if you're a young boy and you're feminine and you like playing with Barbies and you're attracted to other boys and you, and in your confused child mind, and your parents' dumb, liberal, infested, infected, intoxicated mind, somehow this becomes, oh, you must have really supposed to have been a girl.
		No, they're just gay.
		And if you leave these kids alone, all the evidence suggests that they grow up into perfectly well-adjusted young gay men.
		But instead, we're telling them, and this also provides an escape hatch for parents who can't cope with the fact that their kids are gay.
		Because what it says to them is, oh, it's okay.
		You haven't given birth to a queer.
		You've just, there's nothing wrong with you.
		This kid's got a disorder.
		You should have had a daughter.
		So this gets parents out of having to go through all of the difficult Erigmarole in their heads.
		Like, what did I do to turn my son gay?
		Well, now you don't have to, because now they have a disorder, and now they're supposed to be girls, right?
		That's so homophobic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So homophobic.
		And the trans thing is profoundly anti-women because all it seems to be demonstrating, I mean the effect of it, at least, all it seems to be demonstrating is that men are better at being women than women are.
		No, I mean, look at, look, Caitlin Jenner, Woman of the Year.
		We didn't do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a bullshit award.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And look at, no, look at that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that that bullshit award just because there's so much attention being put on her?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No one really thinks she did anything fabulous.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, this is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think about all the women that have done amazing things for women.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is what the left does.
		It forces you to take.
		Yes, it is.
		It forces you to take moral positions on medical issues in this case, right?
		But it also makes you lie.
		This is how you know the left thinks it's one and how it's getting overconfident, which is why I'm winning on college campuses because they've forgotten how to argue.
		But the left is getting overconfident and it's enforcing this stuff on people.
		Now, if you don't want to be a bigot and lose your job and lose your newspaper column and not appear on TV anymore and become persona non grata, you have to tell lies that you know aren't true, that everybody knows aren't true.
		For instance, that Caitlin Jenner is a woman.
		Nobody believes that.
		No one.
		Not the journalist or whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, she still has a penis.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay, fine, but let's say that's a good idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's even more problematic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, she's offensive.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'll give you that problematic.
		But let's take another trans person, right?
		Somebody who's had everything.
		Somebody who now has one of those hideous, oozing, inverted vaginas.
		You know, the surgery is horrific, by the way.
		Describe it in detail to anybody thinking of having this done to them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		On YouTube.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God, really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, even I haven't done that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can watch it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, thanks.
		You know, take a woman who has had all of this.
		She's had all the surgery, all the hormones, living as a woman, can almost pass.
		Nobody believes it's a woman.
		Not the journalists writing the stories.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Trumps are fucking believing it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Not the doctor.
unidentified		Stop it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Stop it.
		Oh, do you know, interesting little tidbit?
		I think I might even have said this on the last show, but it was a long time ago, and I'm sure different people are listening.
		Do you know why so many trannies get beaten up?
		Because the left is always saying, oh, we've got to protect the trans community because there's disproportionately victims of violence.
		Do you know what happens?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Why tranny prostitutes get beaten up so much?
		Why?
		Guess.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because they lie and say that they are a woman and the guy finds a penis and then they beat him up?
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They steal money?
unidentified		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The first one you gave is the most obvious explanation, but it isn't the reason.
		What happens is that, When they see a tranny, they know it's a tranny, right?
		You don't know who these guys are, like in your imagination, who you think don't know a man when they see one, but most people know a man when they see one, even if it's had hormones and it's got like, I've seen some ones.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've seen some ones.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You ever seen Bailey J?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bailey J, transgender woman.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She is the most compelling argument for someone who was born the wrong sex.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think hotness is a compelling argument for medical artists.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like 100% woman.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		100%.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, lots of men are pretty much awesome.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But she's got a big dick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's better pictures of her.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Not into it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at that right there.
		Kapow.
		Come on, son.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Not into it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Big fat dick, too.
		Puts it on Twitter.
		That's one of the weird things about Twitter.
		Like, you could be flipping through Twitter and all of a sudden you just see a giant dick.
		You're like, oh, all right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I follow a couple of porn stars because I'm friends with them.
		But of course.
		But of course, they use their Twitter accounts just to promote their work.
		So I'm sort of like, I've got like, well, no, I've got like Felix Salmon from Fusion, somebody from The Wall Street Journal, a colleague tweeting about Elon Musk.
		Yeah, Elon Musk, tranny porn.
		It happens all the time.
		Happens all the time.
		What was I saying?
		Yes.
		Nobody believes.
		No one.
		Nobody.
		Not a single soul believes that this person is a woman, right?
		Might look like a woman, might be hot, might, you know, all the rest of it, but nobody believes it is a woman.
		We have to say that.
		We have to use pronouns that suggest it.
		We have to warp reality, language, and, you know, and passports.
		The infrastructure of the country has to be remodeled around people with mental disorders.
		Imagine if we did this for any other kind of mental disorder.
		Why?
		Because the left has made this, as they put on the front cover of Time Magazine with Laverne Cox, the new civil rights frontier.
		Well, I'm sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That was the cover.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The new civil rights frontier was the cover of Time Magazine with Laverne Cox, the hot black one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The new civil rights.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Laverne Cox is the one in orange is the new black, black tranny.
		Oh.
		Front cover of Time Magazine, the new civil rights.
		Well, I'm sorry.
		No, fuck you.
		Civil rights is about black people.
		Stop trying to take it.
		It's not about women.
		It's not about gays, and it's not about fucking trannies.
		Civil rights is about black people.
		Stop doing this.
		What the left does is it tries to present these issues totally unrelated.
		It's little pet projects.
		It's little flexing of muscle.
		It's like the left is at home being like, let's see what crazy thing we can make people say they believe in today just because we can.
		And this is, I'm convinced, they all get together.
		There must be some kind of like left-wing Bilderberg.
		It happens like in Toronto.
		No, it happens like in Toronto or something.
		And they're all together and they're all like, what is the craziest, most insane, most counterintuitive, most like medically impossible, most ridiculous thing we can come up with and make everyone believe it and say they believe it because if they don't, they'll lose their jobs.
		I know.
		Tranny's perfect.
		And then of course you've got the, you know, anyway, whatever.
		This is what they've done.
		Nobody believes this, but you have to say it.
		It's so wrong.
		It's so wrong.
		And when you realize what their real motivations are, you understand why they don't care about the science and why they're not interested in exploring what we were talking about, the different treatment pathways.
		They don't care about the science.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And what are their motivations?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's political.
		It's entirely political.
		You know, the left wants to tear down everything.
		They want to deconstruct the difference between men and women because they cannot cope with the fact that women aren't as good at some things as men.
		Well, by the way, men aren't as good at some things as women, but you don't talk about that because that doesn't suit your narrative because you want to paint women as victims all the time.
		You know, you want to pull apart the, you know, they want to pull apart and destroy everything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, isn't it bizarre, too, that in this time and age of gender-neutral pronouns and these strange new pronouns that they want to stick to the traditional male-female pronouns when it comes to transgender people?
unidentified		Of course they do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Without any variation.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's a she.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		But this gives you an insight into what's really happening.
		I mean, I think it tells its own story, right?
		They don't really believe it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that is one of the best examples of it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They don't really buy it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is like this Justin Trudeau situation where they're trying to have gender-neutral options and your identification and the thing in New York that's going on where shopkeepers and employers can be sued for up to a quarter million dollars for not letting you use the right bathroom or use the wrong pronouns.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Just pronouns.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Including artificial, invented pronouns like Z. Yeah, yeah, a quarter of a million dollars.
		Here, here, H-I-R.
unidentified		Yeah, here, Zeer, Z, Zeer, Zer.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm good at grammar.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Like, you know, my mother's German, and so I'm good with all the different dative, genitive, blah, blah, blah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There are 18 new gender pronouns.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I can't keep track.
		No one can.
		I'm a total language nerd, you know?
		Like, I did linguistics.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's the etymology of these?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, where are they coming from?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to remember.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I used to know.
unidentified		Look at this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		X himself.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at this one.
unidentified		Zim C M I think it's E L. Zimbabwe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		X himself is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's Zimself.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to write that down.
nigel farage ▲ ● ▼		I can't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		X Y R S?
		Zers?
		Xurs?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is just...
		They want everyone else to be as ugly as they are.
		These pronouns are the ugliest words I've ever seen, right?
		They're beautiful words.
		And there are ugly words.
		And these are ugly words.
		Just look at what feminists are doing.
		I had a podcast about this with a great guy, Alex Kazemi, and he is really, really clever, brilliant writer from Canada.
		I love this guy.
		He's friends with a lot of people in Hollywood that you would know and like.
		Very, very smart, interesting.
		And he was talking on my show two weeks ago.
		Last week?
		Two weeks ago?
		I don't remember.
		Recently, and it's good.
		Episode 14, I think.
		About how beauty has become marginalized in mainstream culture.
		Because feminism has told the body positivity stuff, encouraging women to get fat and get ill and die, which is just the worst kind of sociopathy and selfishness and just outright lies that we tell each other.
		I'm convinced the left, because it's populated, and all the studies say this, by disproportionately ugly people.
		Because if you do the politicians thing where you take out Democrat and Republican politicians and you ask people to rank them in hotness, it's almost exactly 50-50.
		And there are studies on this.
		The left doesn't even disagree.
		Doesn't even bother denying this anymore.
		Republicans are just way hotter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Republicans are hotter than Democrats?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Every study.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Every service.
unidentified		Girls?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Republicans?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		All those lovely, skinny blonde bitches.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The Fox News ones, for sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's got to be a lot of hot.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're so hot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really, like, aerobic-y yoga teachers.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		The new left, the new social justice left, the fat, ugly, quivering, Lena Dunham left, the nose-piercing blue-hair stuff.
		Well, these are the people running culture now.
		It's not a new thing.
		It's here.
		And they are trying to make everybody else as ugly as they are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But there's a bizarre trend, too, to embrace having an obese body.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's disgusting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But why is that?
		Where is that empowering?
		Why is it empowering to be unhealthy, listless, out of energy?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It isn't, but what they're trying to tell...
		It's not.
		And what's, you know, JCPenney, the retailer, did this video recently with a load of ham beasts who were all saying, you know, what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ham beasts.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you like that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I like, actually, ham planets.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It sounds so much better coming out of your mouth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If I call them ham beasts, it sounds mean.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Ham beast.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like ham beasts.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Ham beasts.
		Or ham planets.
		Do you like ham planets?
		That's another one of my favorites.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess planets, they have their own gravity.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They have a lot of mass.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, ham beast is nastier.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Ham planets is sort of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ham beast.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Ham planets is a bit lighter touch, isn't it?
		No, these people are fat, miserable, and unhappy with their own lives, trying to persuade the rest of us that it is not just neutral, but a positive and happy and joyous thing, almost something to be admired and almost something to be imitated, being so unhealthy that your chances of diabetes go up, all the rest of it, your chances of being disgusting go up 4,000%.
		It's very, very strange to me.
		very weird and it's part of this it's part of the left's campaign to make ugly you know like there was It's a way for ugly women to get purchase in the public sphere, right?
		This is how ugly women get positions.
		And he's right about that.
		And this sort of social justice left, you know, the gender queer, fat, blue-haired, facial-piercing thing is so horrifying.
		And this is a way for ugly, marginalized outcasts to make themselves feel like they're hot people.
		And they want to drag everyone else down to them because, why?
		It's a form of self-harm.
		It is extended adolescence, writ large.
		And what my guest said, Alex Kazemi, who's very smart and insightful, said, you know, this is...
		How...
		How did, you know, we lose fantasy and aspiration in culture?
		We need those things.
		We need people to look up to and to aspire to and to admire.
		And it's so horrifying that now the hot people feel marginalized.
		Look at the cover of men's health and how much uglier the men on the covers of men's health are getting, right?
		Because they want really relatable models.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The bodies are About the same, but look at the faces.
		Look at how they're shot.
		Now they're all like friendly and approachable and not too hot.
		You know, it used to be fucking stunning people on the cover of men's health, like five years ago.
		They're getting uglier.
		And you can see it even in magazines.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Even in men's magazines, that's a trend.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Well, look at the Axe commercial.
		The Axe commercial is this cheap deodorant, right?
		And they've got a new ad out you can find on YouTube, which is about, you know, never mind the six-pack, you know, you've got the nose or whatever, and it's this ugly guy with a huge nose.
		Never mind, you know, the biceps, you've got your bike or some shit like that.
		Encouraging men too to be ugly and dorky and unattractive and nerdy and horrific, just in the same way that feminists have been doing this to women for decades already.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that just a manipulative ad campaign to try to find marginalized people and capitalize on dragging them into your group and selling them some shitty fucking deodorant?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's trying to legitimize and then ultimately to celebrate irresponsible lifestyle choices.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you're talking about this as if some grand conspiracy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like there's a cabal of fucking lefties out there with an evil plan.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Lefty Bilderberg in Toronto.
		No, I believe it's it happens.
		How else can we explain this?
		It definitely happens.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a lot of marginalized people out there and they find comfort in groups.
		People always find comfort in numbers.
		And when they find someone that they think is beautiful and privileged, they try to lash out at them because they've been jealous of that person for a long time.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I just think as a hot person, I'm feeling very personally victimized by the messages that society is sending me right now, and I think I might go home and cut myself.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, don't do that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I won't do that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just think about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I see what you're saying, and I see these trends, but I think that you're dealing with incredibly small numbers of people that are very vocal.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But they wield disproportionate influence.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They have power.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They can't possibly do it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no.
		No.
		Everybody I talk to is so dumb about this.
		They get things done.
		They make companies apologize for things.
		They change policy.
		You know, the feminists about video games will say, oh, we don't want to take your video games away.
		And then suddenly Grand Theft Auto disappears off the shelves of Target in Australia.
		They get things done.
		These people are not harmless.
		These people run culture.
		These people have the power to affect the decision-making of massive multinational corporations.
		Yes, because they're loud, because they're organized, and they have just enough.
		They're not smart.
		You know, they're kind of like dangerous smart.
		They're just like a little bit clever and with a little bit of bare-bones sophomore at college education in gender theory and all the rest of it.
		They sound smart enough that they can give this veneer of thoughtfulness about something that is just hateful and insane.
		And it's so weird to me that we have allowed the worst people in society to run the rest of us.
		We are allowing the people who hate men to tell girls how they should be women.
		Race baiters and black supremacists to explain to us how we should treat, you know, how we should negotiate complex racial issues.
		We are allowing hideous fat monsters to tell girls.
		No, these people look like something from a sci-fi movie.
		They look like they're from a sci-fi movie.
		Put them next to Jabber the Hut.
		I like close your eyes and open them and it takes you a second, you know?
		Like these people would be unknown to the America of the 1950s.
		If you look at the pictures of like women in the 1950s and how elegant and svelte and beautiful they looked and you look now and this stuff hurts women the most.
		It hurts women horribly because it's women who are suffering from the obesity crisis.
		It's 60% of American women who are now seriously overweight and more women are getting obese at greater rates than the men are, right?
		The women are getting fatter faster than the men are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you read the new study that was just released?
		Women of today, of 2016, are as heavy as men from 1960.
		The first time ever that's ever happened.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But the thing is that the number of women and the rate of increase is skyrocketing for girls.
		Why?
		Because these hand beasts are telling them that being fat is fine and that fat people can do anything.
		That fat people can do anything thin people can do.
		Well, shut the fucking fridge then.
		If you can do everything that thin people can do, close the fridge.
		Put down the ice cream scoop.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The average American woman weighs 166 pounds.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is a lot.
		That's a lot.
		That's obese.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot for a woman.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is the same weight as the average American male from the 1960s.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And look, men are not completely, you know, men are not immune from this effect.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We're all getting fatter, but women are getting a lot fatter, a lot faster.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's a disturbing number.
		Like, for that to be the average weight of a woman, that's obesity.
		And that's also diet.
		I mean, that's not like lifting weights.
unidentified		No, no, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not like these women are doing CrossFit and they're fucking doing squats all the time.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's got nothing to do with exercise.
		You don't need to do exercise to lose weight.
		It would be better if you did because your whole body gets stronger and better.
		And you're the expert in this.
		But all you need to do if you want to lose 200 pounds is stop fucking eating, right?
		I got in trouble on Twitter.
		You won't have seen this, but I got in a huge trouble on Twitter for fat shaming someone at the gym.
		And I was like, no, this is disgusting.
		I don't want to have to look at this, right?
unidentified		Well, this is our first person.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This person gets thin, though.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They go to the gym.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Fat shaming works, right?
		And I was doing this person a favor.
		I was doing this person a favor because no, I wrote an article about this.
		I'm serious.
		I wrote an article about this.
		You're getting snippy again.
		My piece drew attention to the real point of my comment, which is the studies show.
		Fat shaming works.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But did you point out an individual person and highlight them?
unidentified		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And did you identify them?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I just did it from behind.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so they didn't show their face?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's perfectly fine.
		And, you know, look, this is how people get thin, worrying if it could be them next, right?
		Somebody tells you you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's an argument for that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		look, I encourage you to go read the piece.
		Thank you.
		If you're listening to this, I think if you go to brightbot.com slash Milo, that's all the stuff buying about me, so it will be there somewhere.
		No, you can find it.
		And I wrote two things.
		JCPenney, well, I wrote a thing about the JCPenney thing, saying this fat shaming thing was disgusting.
		Somebody put a very hurtful comment underneath it.
		They said, this is 1,600 words of tenuously connected fat jokes.
		If I didn't know better, I would have got the impression that you were claiming the moral high ground merely as an excuse to call people ham planets.
		I was very hurt by that criticism.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it's accurate and excellent.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a good criticism.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And there's a second.
		What I explained in my follow-up piece is like, do some good, call someone fat today.
		It works.
		Don't believe these bullshit studies that come out.
		The only serious study that says that fat shaming doesn't work is from University College London, and it is hopelessly flawed.
		It deals with a tiny group of like 50-year-olds and upwards, and that's not what this is directed to.
		That's not what the messaging is directed to because they're using young 25- to 35-year-old singers and writers in these commercials telling 20-year-old girls they can eat what the fuck they want.
		This is not about 50-year-olds, right?
		So don't believe this stuff because it's not true.
		You've got to dig under the surface.
		Of course, fat shaming works.
		And anyway, so I got in trouble for this tweet, but I was doing that before.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When you say trouble, though, like what does that mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got negative attention, but you knew that that was coming anyway.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
		No, I don't, because I tried to do a like a, you know, they do those like celebrities read mean tweets thing?
		I wanted to do my own version of that, and I couldn't find any criticism.
		Everyone loves me so much.
		I like, please.
		But no, seriously, I thought my fans were unshockable, and I have found something that they don't like, and it's fat shaming.
		Well, if you're listening to this, like, you know, buckle up, buttercups, because there's plenty more coming.
		This is, this is no, I'm not going to be, look, I didn't back down for feminism, I didn't back down for Islam, and I didn't back down for Black Lives Matter.
		You think your quivering asses are going to make me do a U-turn?
		Well, you're wrong.
		No, this is, you know, this is something I don't want to see when I go out.
		And that person in the gym, to your point about, you know, working out, that person in the gym doesn't need to be in the gym.
		He was like 350 pounds or something.
		The gym is worthless.
		Don't bother lifting anything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, exercise is a great way to lose weight.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
unidentified		It's not.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's a great way to do it.
		Cardio is pointless.
		Cardio is a masochist way to lose weight.
		It's completely pointless.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Listen, you can do something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is not true.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Some working like nutrient partitioning.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you are entering into my realm.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is not true at all.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		350 pounds.
		What is he realistically going?
		What is he realistically going to do?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Cardio, it will elevate his metabolism.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It will aid in his body burning off fat.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The main thing he needs to do is just calories in, calories out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And if he's 350 pounds, the best thing he can do is just stop eating.
		This is a person who is clearly taking in seven or half ten.
		Because stopping a day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Stopping eating actually slows your metabolism down because your body thinks it's in famine mode.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Eat the right things then.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		One.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's what I mean.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You have to change your gut bacteria.
		There's a bunch of different factors.
		But one of the big ones is sugar.
		Sugar and simple carbohydrates.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		When I say stop eating, obviously that's a shorthand for don't go to McDonald's anymore.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If they just cut back the sugar and the carbs, their body would miraculously shrink.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've done it.
		I've done it.
		I'm literally, I told you, I've lost like 40 pounds and four inches off my waist in like four and a half years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can comment on it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I can.
		If you're fat, it's because you're lazy.
		Like, stop saying that it is some kind of like hormonal deficiency or some emotional disorder.
		Stop inflicting yourself on the rest of the world.
		I don't want to see you at the gym until you are an acceptable size.
		I don't want to see you.
		You are horrendous and you are putting me off my workouts.
		Stay home, eat better food.
		If you have to run, get a running machine delivered to your house.
		Amazon has them.
		They start at $100.
		I don't want to see you and I don't care.
		And these people, I was on Reddit.
		I was like this huge thread on Reddit last three days.
		This monster is fat shaming some poor innocent guy at the gym.
		He's not innocent.
		His actions have consequences on the rest of the world, not least aesthetic consequences.
		I don't want to have to look at you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that if someone being fat at the gym throws you off your workout, you are not dedicated to your task, sir.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe, well, no, my attention.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I salute people that are fat that are taking a chance.
unidentified		They're doing something different than making it to say, isn't it?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Good for you, honey.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're turning your life around.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Taking a chance?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do it at home.
steven crowder ▲ ● ▼		It's hard.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do it at home.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, I saw this guy at the gym.
		His legs were like hanging out of his shorts.
		He was just an enormous fat guy.
		But he had the balls to go out in public like.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He shouldn't work.
		He shouldn't.
		He should stay home in shame and starve.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's terrible for the immune system.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Take down the punch cards from whatever disgusting takeout you're going to.
		Delete the numbers from your phone for the local pizzeria.
		Order in some kale, some protein, some like vegetables and fruit, and start drinking water and have a good, healthy life.
		But do it at home until you are an acceptable size.
		And I don't look at you and want to vomit.
		Because Frank, like, you know, fine, I'm easily distracted, as you can tell from my scatty conversation, right?
		But I am very easily distracted.
		I'm trying to focus on finishing my set, and my attention is drawn to this gigantic, just celestial body entering in, you know, to the sound of thunder and lightning because it's got its own fucking weather system.
		You know, I'm sorry.
		I don't know what it is that surprises people so much that a gay man would be bitchy about weight, but I just, I'm sick of it.
		I'm sick of it.
		You know, just stop it.
		You're selfish, horrible people.
		Like the disabled, like people in wheelchairs, incredibly selfish.
		There's so no, no, no, no.
		Do you know what we have to do?
		Listen, listen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're trolling has gone too far.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what we have to do?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Children, they're horribly crippled.
		Stay home.
		You know what you look like.
		They're not children.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		are monsters.
		No, they have to Now, I was a property developer before I was a journalist, right?
		I used to build houses.
		This is why I can survive on a journalist's salary now.
		And there's an ordinance in England where you have to put the light switches, not here, where everyone needs them, but here, where the wheelchair people need them.
		Why?
		I'm not selling my house to somebody with no legs.
		Like, what the hell is going on?
		This is a part of these tiny little minorities and people who say they speak for those minorities who don't.
		Because most of the people that I know, I know veterans who are in wheelchairs who would probably laugh at the conversation we just had rather than getting offended.
		And they would say, yeah, put the light switches wherever the fuck you want.
		But no, these are stupid lobbies.
		All of us have to count out of these tiny slices of society.
		It's ridiculous.
		You have to put these light switches down where they're inconvenient for 99.8% of the rest of the population.
		And then these disabled people are demanding concrete ramps on the way up to the council building so they can go and collect their disability benefit and their welfare checks twice a year.
		Just get someone to help you.
		There was somebody in the UK who filed a lawsuit against the council who didn't have accessible ramps.
unidentified		My God, these people are out of control.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think there's anything wrong with a wheelchair ramp.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, probably not.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I might have got a little bit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got a little crazy little carrier.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You should have stuck with the fat thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, the fat thing I was sympathetic on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And there is a Thing there where you're making sense, where making people feel bad, instead of saying you're beautiful no matter what you are, you're not beautiful.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's unhealthy and it's not smart.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This beautiful at any size.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know, the only people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Beauty is unusual.
		It's unique.
		That's why it's so special.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are objective beauty standards for men and women.
		Sure.
		And there are people who most people find hot.
		And those people tend not to be the size of houses.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or never.
		And usually when people say that they are hot, they're being disingenuous.
		They're applying these artificial standards.
		They're making a fake standard of human beings.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		of course it's just bullshit what do you think by the way of the because I was I think it was Anne Coulter as well.
		I was talking to somebody the other day about all this kind of like sexual harassment stuff, sexual harassment stuff that women do now when they've been touched on the leg or whatever.
		And Anne has this theory, actually I don't know whether it was...
		So let me just say this is my theory.
		So this is not Anne Coulter's theory.
		She is not guilty because I can't honestly remember whether she said this or not or where she said it.
		But what do you think about this?
		This sexual harassment craze right now.
		It's really just a way for women to tell you they've been hit on, isn't it?
		It's really just a way for women to tell you.
		So where do you get the money?
		But not just that, but somebody was expressing sexual interest in me.
		Because all of these quote-unquote rape stories from campuses that don't actually involve any sex, of course, the ones that do involve sex, rape stories are all frauds and hoaxes.
		The ones that involve sex, they sort of go, oh, hideous.
		Someone touched my breast.
		How awful.
		What's a woman really telling you there?
		She's telling you that someone was sexually interested in her.
		It's a sort of bragging, isn't it?
		Well, it only does.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Someone does really touch your breast.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		How are you supposed to know now?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		How are you supposed to know now?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God, that is sexual assault.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Our parents' generation would have turned around and said, keep your fucking hands to yourself and moved on with their lives.
		They wouldn't have gone into university administrators and tried to destroy the guy's reputation and life over it.
		It's not that big a deal.
		Someone touched your tit.
		Get over it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a big deal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a rude person that doesn't have any respect to somebody else's body.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's rude.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You shouldn't be allowed to do that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's ridiculous.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You shouldn't be able to grab someone's pussy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You should be able to grab girls' ass and stuff like that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, there's a line, but listen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you can fuck with someone emotionally when you do that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're making physical contact with someone in a certain way.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If you are an adult, you know what appropriate behavior is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		18 and 19-year-old kids who are coming to college, and this is where you, you know, messily exploring their sexuality, exploring other people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There are all sorts of confused, awkward situations in those years at college.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What we should not do is be going in and legislating, which colleges are now trying to do, legislating the sex lives of people who are discovering each other and don't know what the rules are yet, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knows you don't walk up to a girl and grab her teeth.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, they don't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, they should learn, and the best way to learn.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		The way to learn is a woman turning around and saying, keep your fucking hands to yourself, and your friend saying, dude, what are you doing?
		That's how you learn.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or your friend goes, dude, that was awesome.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I got it on camera.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are always going to be people like that.
		You can't, you know, you would have learned that.
		You're in a man's reputation because he touched this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, his reputation is shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He walks around grabbing strangers' tits.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, see, this is a mistake.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Your natural instinct toward chivalry and gallantry, which is to your great credit, is, I think, blinding you to the reality of what's happening on college campuses, which is young boys are effectively being criminalized for normal exploration of their sexuality.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a difference between this very specific example you're talking about, unwanted grabbing of breast.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I do think that there's a lot of people trying to hit on people in a clumsy way that gets misinterpreted.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm talking about.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's an issue.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm talking about.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But we're talking about physically grabbing someone's tit, which is really crossing the line.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		People grab each other for kisses all the time.
		Like in student nightclubs, people just go in for a kiss and maybe their lips touch or something.
		Is that sexual assault?
		Give me a break.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're talking about unwanted tit grabbing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So that's worse than putting your tongue down someone's throat when they don't want it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, if they don't want it, you should probably know when someone wants to be kissed.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but that's exactly my point.
		They don't.
		You're at college.
		You may have been to an all-boys high school, right?
		But once you get to the point of the world, you're learning to come to terms with the opposite sex.
		You are discovering your own body, their body.
		You might not even know if you're gay yet, right?
		You don't know what the rules are.
		You know what the rules are.
		I know what the rules are.
		18-year-old kids do not know what the rules are.
		And to have their reputations destroyed forever is obscene.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a difference between the scenario you're describing now, which is like a nightclub scene, two people are close to each other, a guy moves in for a kiss, takes a chance.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He punches her breast and goes in for a kiss.
		I mean, these things just happen.
		My God, if these campus administrators walked into a gay club, their heads would explode with the amount of inappropriate cock touching and all the rest of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's dudes.
		Dudes with dudes.
		There's no yang.
		It's all yin.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Lesbians don't have sex at all, do they?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, if they do, it's not the same.
		That's another weird thing I wanted to bring up about transgender people is that a lot of them become lesbians.
		They turn into women, but then they have to be a little bit more.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But then they won't have sex with women.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is sort of another way their regret comes out, isn't it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a Bruce Jenner thing, and I know several other ones as well.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Is Jenner a lesbian?
		Yeah.
		Do we have to call him a lesbian now?
		Well, he just Bruce Jenner, winner of the 200 meters, is now a lesbian.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what's weird is when you go back to that era of the Olympics, like, what does it say?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Does it say Bruce Jenner won, or does it say Caitlin Jenner?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They've changed it.
		They've changed it.
		In Wikipedia.
		In Wikipedia, it says, it says worse even than you think.
		It says Caitlin Jenner was the winner of the men's 200 meters Olympics.
		That's what it says now.
		That's what it says.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Madness!
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm serious.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's what it says.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		God, that's so crazy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I know.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that is a sign of the times.
		What happened to us?
		Why did we get so bizarre?
		And how did it happen so quickly?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Conservatives gave up the culture wars.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a simple hand.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a simplistic answer.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, sometimes there's a lot of people.
		There's an accelerating attitude that somehow or another is prevalent throughout college campuses.
		It's not the same left of the 1960s and the 70s.
		It's this new left.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's the same as the left.
		It's coming from.
		The left has mutated slightly.
		It's got more hardline and crazier, but it is the same people.
		I mean, the campus, you know, the same professors who were around in the 70s and 80s are now still working in the gender studies departments.
		It's the same people.
		But my views have got crazy people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, their views.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But my point is, the right doesn't really embrace much different values and rules than they did in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not true.
		You just have no idea what they do because they've completely exited the conversation.
		The right has not bothered to engage on university campuses.
		It has not put up a fight in education or entertainment.
		It has not put up a fight in the media.
		It's not put up a fight anywhere.
		It doesn't fought and lost the culture wars.
		It merely handed them over to the left.
		Because the right is full of dorks and geeks and losers and weirdos who are obsessed with money and power.
		So all they care about is Wall Street and Washington.
		What they forgot is that people don't vote for Wall Street and Washington.
		People vote according to their values and they learn their values through culture, through art, through what they watch on TV, the music they listen to.
		And the right just handed that over to the left.
		And the left has run those things for 30 years.
		And that's why things are so crazy, because the people running it have been unopposed for 30 years.
		So their views have got ever more wildly hysterical and crazy.
		Because we all need healthy opposition, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you don't think there's been a comparable sort of shift in the right where the left has gotten wilder and crazier with their ideas.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The right is not gone.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The right, well, it hasn't gone crazy.
		If anything, the right has gone libertarian.
		If you look at the most exciting bits of the right, perhaps Breitbart, where I work, I think a large proportion of Trump's voters, and I think a lot of just conservatives in general reacting against political correctness and responding to the worst excesses of nannying poll-clutching culture, I think the right has become libertarian.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pole-clutching?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Pearl-clutching, you know, sort of like fainting couch feminism and that kind of stuff.
		I think that for many on the right, the reaction against political correctness has pushed them in a libertarian direction.
		And if you want to be a libertarian today, you pretty much have to be a conservative.
		And I think also the other thing that's happened on the right is the death of really of the reduced influence of religion in politics, which you will probably find welcome, has meant, I think for people under 40, the social conservatism of their parents and grandparents' generation is effectively dead and gone.
		And the most exciting young conservatives don't look like old conservatives.
		They're not like rich old white men who hate gay marriage and sound faintly racist after a couple of glasses of wine.
		They are young, interesting, quirky, funny, dissident punks who only find room to grow and be dangerous and difficult and expand on the right.
		I think I fall into that bracket, but also a lot of Trump's young fans fall into that bracket.
		People who just want the freedom to say, do and be anything.
		There's nowhere left on the left for them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is a bizarre shift.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is a very bizarre shift where being accepting of that kind of behavior is much more thought of as something alright.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's now a conservative thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's bizarre.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's now a conservative thing.
		And I don't think anybody can realistically claim otherwise.
		If you are a dissident, a mischief maker, if you believe in pushing boundaries in sex, culture, art, philosophy, literature, whatever it is, right?
		If you want to be dangerous, you have to be a conservative.
		And the left did this.
		The right didn't do it.
		The right didn't win any arguments.
		The left just got overconfident and got carried away and alienated the rest of us.
		I could have been like a center lefty if they were more sensible on, I don't know, economics or whatever.
		But on social issues, I'm a perfect example.
		I'm foul-mouthed and young and gay and love black, whatever, and all the rest of it.
		I shouldn't be a conservative.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, yeah, on paper.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But I am because the left has ejected me because I've got the wrong opinions about things and because it won't let me talk how I want to talk.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because you have honest opinions about feminism, honest opinions about social justice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right, and so I'm persona non garbage to the left.
		I only got one place left to go.
		And this is how the left has created hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Trump voters.
		You know, the nannying and the controlling, that school marmishness, you know, where they want to order your crayons and treat us all like children, has pushed so many of us over to the right.
		And I'm far right now.
		I'm as right as it gets, you know.
		I'm so far right on economics, all the rest of it.
		Social, obviously, a bit more complex, but on the borders, on trade, I'm a Trump guy now.
		I might have ended up very differently if I hadn't been ejected by the left.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But do you have any problems with Trump, with his behavior, with any of his past statements?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nothing?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nothing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He's a perfect angel from heaven.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, but you're being silly.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not.
		I think he's great.
		What's he done?
		Okay, tell me what the worst things you think he's done.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, business-wise, there's been, well, this is one of the things that Joey Diaz talked about on the podcast that he knew back from a long time ago.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In the construction business, Trump was famous for having these projects and not paying people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't sound very likely.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If Trump.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't sound likely.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Where are these people?
		Who are they?
		Do you think they wouldn't have come out in the press by now?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They would have come out in the press.
		There's quite a few of them.
		He'll pull some of them up so you can see some of the stories.
		But was it one New York paper.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		I've heard a couple of times, too.
unidentified		There's a bunch of smaller time contractors that would take away.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Some disgruntled little mom-and-pop shop.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, it wasn't a mom-and-pop shop.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was through and through.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It was through and through.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It didn't get it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was a construction company, and they would get a bid to work on one of his buildings, and they would spend all this money on it, and they would start working, and then he wouldn't pay them.
		And in doing that, he crushed a lot of their business.
		Has a history of not paying his bills that offers some insights into his personality.
		USA Today has posted an explosive investigative story about what appears to be a deep aversion presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump has to paying his bills.
		The short version USA Today claims is based on what looks like some rather impressive reporting.
		Trump has for decades looked for just about any excuse he could find to stiff everyone from plumbers to, can't make this up, lawyers who represented him in non-payment lawsuits.
		That's kind of funny.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's kind of boss.
		Every bad story about Trump has a punchline in there.
		But hold on, it just makes you think fair.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by USA Today Network, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay for their work.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, that doesn't sound good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It goes on and on.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't sound good.
		I'm not going to defend that.
		Good, Thank you.
		That doesn't sound good at all.
		I'm quite a close follower of Trump.
		I didn't know this, so I will look into this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Among them, a dishwasher in Florida, a glass company in New Jersey, a carpet company, a plumber, painters, 48 waiters.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		48 waiters have filed lawsuits against him.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at resorts and clubs.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		When you run an empire, you know, this is a billion-dollar empire, you're going to get things like this.
		And when you do it for decades, it's not going to be difficult.
		Look, I mean, the Washington Project.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Richard Branson doesn't have those.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, not that we know of, but if he ran for president, we might find out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I bet you wouldn't.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		How do you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because he's not that kind of guy.
unidentified		Oh, please.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a very altruistic guy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Is he?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't you think he is?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I think Richard Branson is one of the worst examples of a sort of, you know, quiet power behind this globalist elite that wants to break down borders and destroy all our countries.
		Richard Branson is about as close to the devil as it's possible to get.
		No, no, I do know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a genius impression of him.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, come on.
		On Necker Island, the guest he has at Necker Island.
		How hard do you even read this stuff?
		I mean, for somebody who's, you know, who's in Richard Branson's Island, where he lives.
		This wonderful guy you know so much about?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know about where he lives.
		I just know about his business.
		What does he do with this business?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Not much, evidently, because that's where he strikes all his deals.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, what's the significance of the business?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I would encourage you, I would encourage you to revisit the subject of Richard Branson.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, tell me what's going on on his island.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, just the guestlists he has on this island.
		Very suspect.
		The guestlist?
		I mean, it's basically like a little Bilderberg, you know, little, you know, politicians.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he's trying to coax his kids to be nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Feeds them some guava smoothies.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I just can't, I just can't relate to him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at him.
		I just disgusting.
		Bawling.
		I just out of control, wearing flip-flops on the roof of his own fucking island.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What a madman.
		Holla.
		I just can't relate to Gingers.
		I'm sorry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm just not going to get involved.
		How dare you?
		I mean, but he seems to have a very positive and a very inspirational message.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He's good at branding himself that way, yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think that's all bullshit?
		Well, you're looking at me sideways.
		I'm just asking you an honest question.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You just have this weird I listen to you all the time because I find your conversations with people very interesting.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You just have these weird...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's okay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		By the way.
		My favorite.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, he wins.
unidentified		Yeah, that's all right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at her.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		My favorite.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that real?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he wins.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's got this naked girl on his back, and she's not very careful.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's the incessant of degenerate sexual encounters, Necker Island.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You mean he's ball and out of control?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, he's like a sort of shit Dan Bilzerian, you know?
		He's like Dan Bilzerian.
		Dan Bilzerian without the personality, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So what's wrong with you?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		By the way, uncompliment question.
		That's not a real thing.
		Uncompliment sandwich.
		No, my favourite story about Jennifer Lopez ever, and I don't know if it's true, but I'm thinking of like making people do this with me now.
		I don't know if it's true.
		I hope it's true.
		It's one of those stories that, you know, Mariah Carey is like, you know, oh, I'd love to be.
		You know, when you talk about Africa, you know, I'd love to be thin like that, but not with all the flies and death and stuff.
		That's not true.
		She never said that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She should have said it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hilarious.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it is great.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like that Justine Sacco quote.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She was that woman that got fired.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		The AIDS joke.
		Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just kidding, I'm not white.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just kidding, I'm white.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I hope I don't get AIDS.
		Just kidding, I'm white.
		It's fairly funny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's funny.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's fairly funny.
		I mean, it's funny, yeah.
		I thought so.
		I thought so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's inappropriate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's why it's funny.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you, Gorka.
		I liked this famous Jennifer Lopez thing, and I hope it's true, where she's like, she cuts off an interview.
		She says, you don't do this very often, do you?
		And he's like, what?
		And she's like, compliment, compliment, question.
		And he just looks at her.
		Isn't it great?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it real?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it great?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I hope so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I hope so, too.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it great?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Compliment, compliment.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Compliment, compliment, question.
		I make my assistant do that now sometimes with people who interview me, like just to fuck with them at the beginning, to get them on a back foot.
		Because they don't quite have the balls to, because I'm not a star.
		I'm just like, you know, I made a little name for myself on the campus staff, and people know me quite well as a journalist and all the rest of it.
		I'm becoming popular, but I'm not there yet.
		We're not at Joe Rogan levels of notoriety yet.
		Could I get him to do it?
		Because even with my sort of lowly profile, such as it is, people still aren't quite confident calling me out on it, and they're not brave enough to laugh.
		So I have my assistant just interrupting.
		Sorry, sorry, sorry.
		Could you just compliment, compliment, question?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'd love to see the look on their face when they fucking process that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think I do it?
		It's great.
		They just freeze and then they do it.
		And then they do it.
		They have to.
		I love your work.
		You're really great.
		and your hair looks nice today.
		Can I just ask you about...
		Easy.
unidentified		Easy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not hard.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Easy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not hard.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, yes.
		No, I was going to say, you have these weird, you're like the most skeptical person in some regards.
		And you'll be like, no, you're like a truffle hound.
		You know, you want to get down to the truth.
		Drop that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A truffle hound is a very, very obscure reference.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, well, not if you eat a lot of truffles.
		No, I...
		They use truffle hounds.
		Do you know that?
		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes they use pigs too, right?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They do.
		They use pigs too.
		But pigs sometimes have a habit of eating the truffles.
		They're not eating the truffles, indeed.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Truffle hounds.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Dogs don't like truffles.
		No, you're like a truffle hound, you know, just sort of like roosting around for the truth and talking about studies and, you know, way, way higher standard of debate and conversation than you normally hear, you know, on these kinds of, on these kinds of shows.
		You know, this is why you're so popular.
		And then sometimes you're just like, no, he's a really nice guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I said, he seems like a nice guy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, you didn't.
		You didn't say seems.
		You didn't say seems.
		And you didn't know about Neclaisland.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Richard Branson?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You didn't know about Necara Island.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know the name of his island.
		No, he owns an island.
		I mean, he owns a lot of shit.
		He owns Virgin Airlines.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think he's an Islander?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Why do you think?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ever fly Virgin?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Virgin Atlantic is very good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like a disco.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Upper class is good.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They sing a song when they tell you the fucking seatbelt thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And they have that nice bar.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's lovely.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Very nice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Very, very good.
		Very good.
		And the interior is nice.
		Do you know, Frank, on the rare occasions I had to fly coach, I always try to do it on Virgin because even economy on Virgin is quite nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're nice planes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's got it nailed.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, good, but probably not a nice guy.
		Who knows?
		Not us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He seems like, if I had to pick out the philanthropic.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, surely that's Bill Gates.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he's a nice guy, too.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think Bill Gates is a nice guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He seems to be a very nice guy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He seems cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, he does a lot of legitimate charity work and donates millions of dollars.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You've got $6.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You can afford to at that level.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's all write-off for him, for sure.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But I think the Bill and Melinda Gates thing, that is genuinely what they do now.
		That's their life now.
		And they're trying to really fix things, like malaria and all the rest of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's beautiful.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, it is.
		It's great.
		It's great.
		And you know, it's interesting.
		I can't think of another example of somebody who was so hated for like two decades as he was when he was running Microsoft.
		So completely, successfully reversed their own reputation in just 15 years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is interesting.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Totally and completely 180's public reputation.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, how did he do that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		One of the things he did is...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think sincerity and intelligence...
		He wasn't a fame whore.
		He wasn't demanding attention.
		He just said, here's what I'm going to do in my life now.
		And spoke simply and seriously and actually did things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And who's that crazy guy that he had running his company, the big fat, bald guy with Bulma?
unidentified		I love him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Run around screaming and yelling.
unidentified		Developers, developers, developers.
unidentified		This company.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And he's sweating.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's out of it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Look, he's going to steal.
		I love Steve Walmer.
		I loved him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That video is goddamn classic.
		But if I work for Microsoft, I'd be terrified.
		I'm like, I have to muster up this level of enthusiasm.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Although I get fired.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Here he is.
unidentified		Look at this.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the monkey dance or something.
unidentified		Come on!
		Get on!
		Get on!
		Come on!
		Come on!
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I love him.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I love him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is nuts.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He's still like this, because there's a video of him at basketball games, and he's like this in the front row in the basketball game.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is just who he is.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		He bought the Clippers from Sterling.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did he?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
		He probably orchestrated the fucking wiretap.
		It was probably a long chess game.
		That son of a bitch.
		That is one of the most bizarre things ever.
		Because if you listen to what that guy said that cost him the Clippers, that is one of the weirdest intrusions.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So you're wandering outside my everybody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know the whole thing?
		Donald Sterling was the guy.
		Well, it enters into your area.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Tell me about it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Tell me about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because it deals with social justice.
		He was a Clippers owner to one of the bigger basketball teams, right?
		Los Angeles area.
		He has this girlfriend, and he says, I don't want you taking pictures with black guys.
		Because she takes a lot of pictures of these black guys on her Instagram page.
		He goes, I don't mind if you fuck them, but I don't want you taking pictures.
		Now, they conveniently left out the, I don't care if you fuck them.
		I just don't.
		Because it embarrassed him because everybody knew it was his girlfriend and she fucks everybody.
		So she's got pictures with all these stud athletes and everyone knows these stud athletes are boning her.
		It embarrassed him.
		He said, I don't like you taking pictures.
		What did you show me there?
unidentified		Here it goes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It bothered me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people.
		Do you have to, the man believing to be Sterling says.
		You can sleep with them.
		You could bring them in.
		You could do whatever you want.
		The little I ask you is not to promote it on and not to bring them to my games.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But that's nice.
		That's him just saying, please don't humiliate me because, you know, you're my girlfriend.
		Yes.
		And you are ritually humiliating me in public.
		But he's just asking you not to do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But she specifically said black eyes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, what if she brought in some fucking Vikings?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, who cares?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Giant bearded axe-wielded.
unidentified		No, because it's humiliating.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's a compliment to the black people because he's identifying them as the master race they are.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And he's like, you know, I'm just some little white guy and you keep going out with these massive six foot four athletes and you're humiliating me, please stop it.
unidentified		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And obviously if she was a coal burner and she's just going out and fucking black guys Is that what they call them?
		Yeah, or girl fucking.
		Or a Snicker liquor.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But a coal burner?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit, that's funny.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Or a Snicker liquor, which is the other one I love today.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a good one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I like that, but not as much as Coal Burner.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Coal burner is just fucking old stuff.
		I don't know where I got it.
		I think it might be some like 1940s racist thing, but I'm going to reclaim it because I'm allowed because I am one.
		That's the rule, right?
		That's the rule these days.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the rule these days.
		I'm fucking coal burner, sir.
		Yes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's the rule these days.
		I can say whatever I want as long as I am it.
		Noah, she's only fucking black guys, and she's not really putting out for her rich white husband, and he's.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, let's say boyfriend.
		She has a wife.
		He has a wife.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, who cares?
		Who cares?
		This is an example of the media, right?
		It's just cherry-picking to say that everyone's racist when everyone's not racist.
		Because his primary motivation in this statement had nothing to do with race.
		And you could say, why did he need to say black at all?
		But who cares?
		That wasn't what he was asking her about.
		It wasn't the thrust of his remarks.
		And the media, because it is populated by children, not by adults, did this to him, if it sounds like, I mean, I don't, I'm speculating from literally the tiny bit you just told me, but it doesn't sound to me to be, in your words, problematic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, here's another issue with it.
		It was a private conversation that he did not think was being broadcast.
		And people are allowed to say fucked up things that maybe they shouldn't have said, and it doesn't have to be shared to the whole world.
		And then he loses his team.
		This is the craziest part about it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Are people bastards?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The president of the NBA makes this speech.
		First of all, he looks like Nosferato, right?
		He looks like he just fucking the president.
		He looks like he popped out of a coffin.
		He sits straight up and he reads this fucking canned, ridiculous speech about the horrors of what this guy.
		Look at him.
		Look at Nosferado.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
unidentified		Blood.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, he's got no white to his eyes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's all black.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You won't see him.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's a demon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a demon.
		Even the white stuff is all red.
		It's like blood behind it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's scary.
		He's scary.
		He's like a pure blood.
		You know, the ones that are like paler and older than the thousands of years ago.
		Yeah, like he wasn't made.
		He was born.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Born vampire.
		Right, right.
		Yeah.
		And anyway, it was very unreasonable the way he described it.
		Look, what the guy said was not nice.
		It was sordid.
		It was gross.
		But more gross, I would have said if I was him, how gross is it that we're listening to this man's private conversation and judging?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But I want people to say this stuff in public.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, not only that.
		The guy was drunk.
		Okay?
		He was drunk.
		He was with his mistress.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't care about anything he said.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That seems completely reasonable statement to me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're allowed to say fucked up things.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Look, if your girlfriend was cheating on you with a bunch of black guys, you would not say, why are you cheating on me, all these guys?
		You would say, no, but listen, listen.
		If you had a girlfriend, of course, no girl would ever cheat on you because, look at you, but.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so nice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I know.
		My boss now is so used to these sort of flippant compliments.
		He now no longer believes them.
		He says, you have to give me the same exact compliment three times so I know you actually mean it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a three compliment.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's three compliments and then a statement.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, compliment, compliment, compliment question.
		No, he's like, if you don't give me on three separate occasions, unrelated separate occasions, the same compliment, I'll know it's just you being a flatterer, which I think is reasonable.
		But no, if you had a girlfriend and she was cheating on you and she was exclusively cheating on you with black guys, when you had a conversation with her, you would not say, I don't mind you sleeping with all these men.
		You would say, I don't mind you sleeping with all these black men.
		You would do that.
		That's how people talk because it's a group that is very identifiably not you.
		And what you're implicitly saying is, what is it that they have that I don't have?
		Well, obviously.
		That's what's going on there.
		He's not being racist.
		He's identifying a pattern of behavior from her.
		And that's how we would all talk.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's even more bizarre than that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's even more bizarre because he said, I don't mind if you fuck them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that the best fucking boyfriend in the world?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it funny, too, that they bleeped out fuck and they put in parentheses sleep with?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like they changed.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		People are dumb.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like they changed.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Like the Orlando transcript, which wasn't allowed to have any mention of Islam or ISIS whatsoever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Did you know that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		now?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, the way I want people to have conversations like that and far worse in public all the time everywhere because I want to rob words of their magical powers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You want to know what people really think.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I want people, if somebody wants to use the N-word because they don't like black people, I want to know about it.
		I want to know who the racists are.
		I want to know who the sexists are.
		I want to know because I want to be president.
		No, I'm kidding.
		I'm joking, joking, totally joking.
		It's very reasonable.
		I want to know who people are.
		And when you force people to sign up to bogus speech codes, nobody knows who anyone else is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't change their intent, and it doesn't change their thoughts.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And in fact, it can make it worse because when you suppress them.
		Exactly.
		And then it bottles it up.
		And then you get to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you look for a bottleneck.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We're on the same page.
		We're on the same page.
		I want all this stuff to happen in public.
		I really do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		And I was going to say something else, but I've forgotten.
		Oh, yes, the censorship thing.
		I hate this.
		I hate this.
		You know, this bleeping and censorship stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Department of Justice says, scrub Islam references for the transcripts that terrorists call to police.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're great.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're amazing.
		I wouldn't be able to find this stuff so fast.
		This is insane.
		This is true.
		And then they got ridiculed and humiliated into releasing the actual full transcript, which I think still wasn't quite there.
		But I hate this.
		I hate this instinct of it.
		I hate any time that people don't quote properly.
		Whether it's to like, you know, because, oh God, people can't quote properly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What do you think is going to be a property?
		Why would they think that that would be okay to do?
		Why would the Department of Justice do that?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because it's because, I mean, look, Loretta Lynch is the Attorney General.
		These people are Democrats.
		They are pandering to Islam.
		It's very simple.
		They are pandering to Muslims.
		They're pandering to Muslims and demonstrating they don't give a shit about gay people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is bizarre that they would want to take out the references to Islam.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He's like saying, Allah la la la, you know, like, you know, doing the Shahada, God knows what else, saying, you know, in the name of Allah, most merciful, most great, I'm doing this terrible thing, you know, I'm doing this for ISIS, I'm a proud Muslim, I'm killing in the name of Allah, and all the rest of it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And I think even when they put the transcript back, I think they changed Allah to God, you know, just to wind up Christians, just to piss us off, you know, just to wind people up, just to sort of muddy the waters, you know, just to sort of, oh, you say religiously muddy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a massive piece of deception.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's to change.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		To change the words like that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course, of course.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And they use censorship and changing all the rest of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But to think that you have the power to do that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's obscene.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is a direct violation of the press.
		Direct violation of journalism.
		And to distribute information that's so distorted like that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Almost worse than the motivations behind it and the fact they did it is the contempt and low esteem in which they must hold the public and the press to think that we would think that was okay and put up with it and not know what was in the gaps that they redacted.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Have they commented on this?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, they got so ridiculed by all sides that they released a new transcript with, I think, fewer expurgations.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it was complete, complete, complete.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fine, I don't know if it's much better.
		Because it's insane that they think they could do that.
		It's insane.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, they didn't get away with it, but imagine them thinking they could get away with it.
		What that says about their opinion of the public.
		That's almost worse.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not just that.
		It's their sense of entitlement, the amount of power that they think that they...
		Yeah, I mean, that is warping reality.
		It's 100% warping.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because it creates space for people, for idiots like Sally Cohn to say this was homophobically motivated.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was fucking it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is it a transcript or is it not a transcript?
unidentified		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If it's a transcript, you're supposed to be able to hear it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's a transcript.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck did he say?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's so sensitive.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And they censored every single mention.
		And this is not like usual right-wing kind of like, why aren't you naming Islam kind of stuff?
		Right, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Attorney General Loretta Lynch refused Wednesday to say who made the decision to remove references to the Islamic State and its leader from the publicly released version of the transcript of the 9-11 call involving the Orlando nightclub shooter.
		The goal, of course.
		What?
		Listen to this.
		The goal is, of course, the greatest transparency.
		The initial thought was that we did not want to provide a further platform for the propaganda of the killer.
unidentified		Bullshit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What a load of crap.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a lie.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course it's a lie.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		Once it became an issue, we decided we would go ahead and release the full transcript, Lynch said.
		She must have released the full one if she said it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I guess they have.
		I mean, God only knows if they really did release it or if they changed certain words.
		Who knows?
		But we have no way of telling.
		And this certainly does not inspire us with confidence.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at this statement right here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hold on a sec.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do we trust them even to have released the real one now that we know what they're doing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Once you say you release the real one, it's just like it seems like it's going to get out.
		Press on who decided to remove the references to ISIL as well as the name of the deceased shooter Omar Martin, Lynch, remained vague.
		I'm not going to go into the detail of the process behind it, Lynch said.
		Our review was not to further spread the propaganda, but once it became a distraction, we released the whole transcript.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What there does that mean?
		And we know how you know it's a lie, right?
		I mean, or at least how you know how stupid these people are.
		They release, this is the deadliest shooting in American history, right?
		The deadliest mass shooting in American history.
		It is the biggest news in the country for weeks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They released the deadliest mass shooting in American history.
		No, it is true, but it is.
		They showed two other ones that were really similar.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Which one had more of the same thing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just Google that Orlando was not the deadliest mass shooting in American history.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Google that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'll work on the assumption it's one of the top five.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is horrible.
		It was horrible.
		Just for clarity's sake, I think.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I would like to know if I'm wrong about that.
		But just assume that it's the biggest news story in America for three weeks.
		The eyes of the world media are watching.
		And this guy dialed 911 and made a phone call immediately before or whenever it is.
		To think that you can gerrymander that is so dumb, just so mind-bogglingly stupid.
		Given the suspicion with which normal people already hold the authorities, you know, and the politicization swirling around this is so stupid.
		But think also, if what she was saying was true, right, what we did this to stop, you know, the spread of his hateful messages and to avoid, you know, more attention being on ISIS, what's more attention on now?
		Now that it finally has come?
		All anyone wants to talk about in that transcript is the words that she kept out.
		All anybody will ever want to talk about in relation to that transcript for the rest of time is how the government cut out the names of ISIS and even his own name, you know?
		Like cut out anything remotely Islamic looking.
		Any Arabic words, anything remotely Islamic looking, cleansed it.
		So that if you had only read that transcript and you knew nothing about the case, you might think the guy was just some straight white male homophobic shooter from Charleston, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they were trying to hide his name.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		They hid his name.
		They hid his name.
		Like we didn't know his name.
		They hid his name.
		So that if you read that document, you could have been persuaded to believe that this was some redneck homophobic Christian killer.
		Which, of course, the left was saying, you know, oh, this is no better than blah, blah, blah.
		All of the kind of like excuse making and molly-coddling and pandering and weaseling and, oh, let's use a Muslim killing gaze as an excuse to attack the Christians again.
		All of this stuff that the left was doing, the government legitimized and assisted when it redacted that transcript.
		Appalling.
		Look at that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's ridiculous to think they thought they could get away with it, but it also shows how much fear they have of Islam and of Muslim people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a massive fear in this country, and that was the same fear that led them to suppress the images from Charlie Ebdo that got those cartoonists killed.
		Nobody, I mean, that was a massive failure of the press, where no one Breitbart did, and kudos to you because that was a huge issue.
		Time magazine and New York Times, all those people denied.
		They were like, nope, we're not running that.
		We don't want to die.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, we did it.
		And it's funny.
		We're always told the left is so stunning and brave, responsible for all these great social triumphs and civil rights victories and all the rest of it.
		And it seems to me that it's conservatives taking all the risks now.
		It looks that way to me.
		I mean, I'm going at the end of the month to Sweden.
		I don't think I told you this.
		You won't know this yet.
		I'm going at the end of the month to Sweden to lead a gay pride march through a Muslim ghetto.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because to me...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, indeed.
		Glad I got to come on before the end of the month.
		Because to me, it seems like the point of gay pride, if there is one anymore, is, and that's very much in debate in the West.
		Surely the point of gay pride was always to sort of march defiantly through areas of social conservatism and reactionary religious bigotry and all the rest of it.
		Well, that's only coming really from one direction now.
		I don't think there's very much...
		where British Muslims, 100% of British Muslims think that homosexuality is an unacceptable lifestyle choice, and 52% of them want gay sex made illegal.
		This is coming from one religion, just one.
		Stop lying to people that there is some equivalence between the discomfort occasionally felt by Christians about gay marriage and Muslims murdering homosexuals.
		Just fucking stop it because nobody believes you anymore.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We were talking about this earlier that Michael Shermer had an excellent article about that, about Islam being the one religion that didn't go through the Enlightenment.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a very illuminating article.
		It really shows you how sort of isolated their ideology has remained.
		And it's one of the very few ideologies from that long ago.
		It remains fairly untouched.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, part of the reason I think for that, and he may have touched on this in the article, there are structural differences between Islam and every other major world religion, right?
		So if you take the Quran, the Sunnah and the Hadiths, and you keep them together, Muslims will say this is the final, perfect, and unalterable word of God, the Quran, right?
		And it's supported by the Hadiths and the Sunnah, so the sayings and doings of Muhammad and all the rest of it.
		No other religion makes a claim for itself that God will never come back.
		In fact, other religions make a specifically opposite claim.
		And no other religion, I think, apart from Islam, has proven itself so resistant to modernity and so incapable of adapting to modern circumstances.
		Christianity, for instance, has done a wonderful job of aligning itself with capitalist societies and adapting and changing with the times.
		In my view, maybe not entirely in yours, but in my view, certainly in the last hundred years, has been nothing but a net positive for public life.
		Now, Islam, of course, is sort of locked down into the social attitudes that people had when Islam was founded.
		Christianity isn't.
		You've even got the Anglican church now women bishops, gay marriages, probably whatever.
		Christianity is adapting to this stuff and is changing.
		But Islam has some problems.
		I mean, another structural problem, of course, with it is that even Islam's own scholars say that where the Quran contradicts itself, as of course it does in many places because parts of it's just sort of plagiarized Old Testament and the rest of it's just mad, where it contradicts itself, there's a principle of abrogation, which means that verses that were revealed to Muhammad later, chronologically in time, supersede the earlier ones.
		Well, the problem is that the earlier ones are the peace, love, and understanding ones, and the later ones, when he was a warlord, are the ones that kill the infidel verses.
		So according to Islam's own scholars, and I don't think there's any real disagreement on this, the belly coast verses in the Quran take precedence over the peace, love, and understanding verses.
		And of course, the other structural problems of religion that prevent it from engaging with modernity and intellectual inquiry and equality for women engaged and all the rest of it have led to things like, and people have heard me say this before, but I think it's an interesting, just one little data point.
		There isn't a single world-class university anywhere in the Islamic world.
		Not one.
		Why?
		I think you can fill in the gaps yourself.
		But to claim that that is somehow equivalent, as we say, to this, to Memories Pizza, is insane.
		It's completely absurd.
		And for the government to deny gay people the right to educate themselves and deny gay people the knowledge they need to protect themselves about threats at home, and it is now dangerous to be a gay person in America.
		Why?
		It's not fucking memories pizza, it's Muslims.
		To deny people the ability to educate themselves on that is unacceptable and unconscionable and unforgivable.
		And so I'm doing two things.
		One of them is we're going to do the shootback party at the Republican National Convention, which I'm going to show up to, which is just arm the gays.
		There's a little party at the Republican National Convention just reminding gay people that the best way they can protect themselves is not pander to, is not suck up.
		I don't see any reason why the NRA is not already.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just take them all in.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Take them all in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it might be a good thing for the NRA at this point.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Hillary is losing.
		I don't think the NRA is worrying about membership.
		I think their membership grows every time there's one of these catastrophes.
		It does.
		Because every time there's some other...
		I think the NRA is probably quite healthy in membership growth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's quite healthy, but really the people who benefit are the arms manufacturers.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Good.
		Good.
		I want lots of market competition in the arms trade.
		I want cheap, reliable firearms, so every home has got 12 of them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Your country, you're not even allowed to have them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I'm not allowed a pistol in my own country to protect myself, despite the fact that the government is letting in hundreds of thousands of people who want me dead.
		And this is not just me being a crazy right-wing lunatic, although I am all of those things.
		This is Gallup poll a couple of years ago polled 1,001 British Muslims.
		100% of them said homosexuality was unacceptable.
		And then a later poll.
		That's higher than Palestine, where 96% of people in the Pew Global data say that homosexuality is unacceptable.
		100%.
		And 52% of those people want gay sex made illegal.
		This is not crazy Muslims in Raqqa.
		This is people two streets away from where I live, or even one street away, or even in the same building.
		I don't fucking know.
		They all think I'm unacceptable.
		I don't want this in the West.
		Get rid of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Lock and load.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not gonna go out and, I'm not gonna go out and I'm putting my hand on my hip, you know, and making sure that I'm not in danger.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, damn right I am.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you can't do that in your country.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I can't.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, why do you think I'm here?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that why you're going to come over here?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I won't.
		Can you move here?
		Well, I'll.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You seem to fit the profile.
		You make good money.
		You're well respected.
		You have a great job in a Republican publication?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't think I'd have a problem getting a value.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
		Pretty easy.
		What about a green card?
		Just learn a bunch of goofy shit about our country that we don't remember?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'll have to get married first.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've talked to some people that have learned, Canadians that have come over here and gotten their green cards, and they know a lot more about this country than I do.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is the best country in the world, and it would give me nothing but pleasure to see what I'm saying.
		Oh, check your crazy.
		Check your card.
		It would give me nothing but pleasure to come and live here.
		So I'll keep you posted on that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I definitely do.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, if the left is not going to be honest about the risks to gays, we've got to educate ourselves.
		Stop listening to dumb as pig shit celebrities.
		Stop listening to politicized reporters.
		Stop listening to the government.
		Stop listening to Obama and Hillary.
		Trump, by the way, his speech after Orlando, magnificent.
		What did he say?
		The most pro.
		Well, he's just saying, look, this is a problem for the gay community.
		We cannot allow this stuff to come in.
		I'm going to protect you.
		You need to arm yourselves.
		You need to read his speech because it's a lot more complex and nuanced than that suggests.
		Genuinely great speech, which suggests to me that Obama might be a kind of like, almost like a Cameroonian politician.
		Sorry, not the country, but I mean like David Cameron.
		In the sense that he can sort of falter now and again, but when the moment calls for it, he rises to the occasion.
		Bush was like that.
		W's speech after 9-11 was pretty spectacular.
		So Trump is very, very strong.
		I mean, I think Trump is the most pro-gay candidate in American electoral history on either side of the divide, frankly.
		I really do.
		But anyway, gay people need to take this into their own hands, frankly.
		And so I'm going to Sweden, where a year ago, the Swedish authorities told a gay pride march that it was needlessly provocative for walking through a Muslim area of Stockholm.
		Now, that's, I mean, really.
		Needlessly, needlessly provocative.
		This is gay pride.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How much gay stuff goes on in the Muslim world?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because isn't that a big issue as well?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		A lot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because of the suppression.
unidentified		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, so we should get onto that because it's interesting.
		So I'm going to ride, I hope, that my security guys...
		I'm going to ride a horse, yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You are?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Into the Viking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to ride a horse.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm hoping so, yeah.
		The security people are asking me not to do it because they can't protect me if I'm much higher, you know?
		Right.
		Because anybody could take me out from anywhere.
		But I'm hoping to persuade them to let me do it.
		And I want to ride in with like, I want 20 people in a V-shape with like Milo banners behind me, like proper full Game of Thrones style.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to pay these people for this?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We'll take all our people over.
		I'm sure there'll be plenty of volunteers in this march anyway.
		It's going to be me on horseback marching into the Muslim ghetto and then giving a speech about Islam and gays in the very heart of European cookery, this country, Sweden, which has given itself over completely to Islamic immigration, which is now the rape capital of Europe because Malmo in Sweden is now the rape capital of Europe because of uncontrolled Muslim immigration.
		And the police there have been instructed not to record the ethnicity or religion of assailants.
		So they don't even have statistics on who does it anymore, similar to the Loretta Lynch redacted transcript.
		This is what I'm saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't see colour.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I just see people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And men are rapists.
		See, this is what the left does.
		It's like you import a load of Muslims, Muslims start raping and stealing from everybody, and the response is this is toxic masculinity.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Mmm, that's a hilarious term.
		I love that term.
		Anyway, toxic masculinity.
		What are they going to do about that?
		What does Sweden plan to do to try to mitigate some of the rape?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, do you know what they've done?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know, don't you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I do not.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You gave me a cue question.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Surely you did.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm lost.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I thought that was a canny, what do you call it?
		Tea-up.
		Yes.
		Well, Sweden has issued women with wristbands, and these wristbands say don't rape.
		That's Sweden's answer to the rape crisis.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Sweden's answer to the rape crisis is to issue women with wristbands that say don't rape and to forbid the police from mentioning the ethnicity and religion of assailants.
		That's Sweden's answer to the rape crisis.
		So I can't fix that, but I'm- That's Milo's answer to the rape crisis.
		Deport all the Muslims.
		Deport them.
		Get rid of them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Has anybody else suggested that?
		Anybody in their country?
		Is there any debate about how to handle this?
steven crowder ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are they doing?
		They're just sticking their head in the sand?
		Yeah.
		Wow.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So I can't fix the woman problem single-handed, but I can perhaps embarrass the government about the gay problem.
		And I certainly hope to do that.
		So end of the month, if you have enjoyed any of my programming or writing or anything, enjoy the next three weeks because after the 27th of July, that could be it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a ballsy move, man, to go to one of the most problems.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Don't do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		One of the most troubled areas in Sweden and to walk through these neighborhoods.
		Now, these are obviously immigrant neighborhoods, right?
		These are people that have recently been.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's the Muslims.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's exclusively Muslim.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And when did these people move into this area?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When did this start taking place?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think over the last 10 years.
		Sweden has taken in hundreds of thousands of them a year for the last 10 years, I think.
		And that doesn't sound like a lot to an American, but Sweden doesn't have many people in it.
		Sweden is not very populous.
		There are a couple of towns, and that's really it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, what's small?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's the overall population of Sweden?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		A couple of million, I guess.
		I'm guessing.
		Isn't it like 4 million or something?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think you're right.
		I think it might be less than that.
		And I think it's a fairly small geographic area, too.
		So they're on top of each other.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think there's a big stretch of it up north where basically nobody lives.
		It's just like snow or something.
		And then down, there's like three or four cities.
		And yeah, I mean, so two, three hundred thousand people a year is not nothing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've been to Stockholm.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's gorgeous.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Beautiful.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it won't be for long.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's stunning.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It'll be Al Stockholm soon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Al Stockholm.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The only thing, you used to hear ABBA, and give it a couple of years, and all you will hear is Allah!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What were the numbers for mass shootings?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I got some.
		The definition of what someone is using for what a mass shooting is is very varied.
		So it's like if it's in one place, which is where the questions are coming.
		They also don't count them if it's maybe a military.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		What are the other options, though?
		What are the other candidates for the number one?
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		There's a massacre.
		A couple of massacres.
		Wounded knee massacre.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jamie vernon ▲ ● ▼		St. Louis massacre.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, those are the two I remember.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the St. Louis one and the wounded knee one were two I remembered.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There were hundreds of people there, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Well, depending on our definition.
		But in any case.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Either way, horrible tragedy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So I don't understand how Sweden thinks that they're just going to calm the situation down by not mentioning the gender or the name of the assailant.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's the basically just can't say it was Muslims that did it.
		But everybody knows that.
		But what it does is it means there are now no national statistics on this.
		So nobody can say 97% of the rapes were committed by this portion of the population.
		Fix this.
		The government's answer is not fix the problem, but obscure the data.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're going to ruin their whole country.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They already have.
		Same as January.
		Yeah.
		Malmo, look, this was a feminist progressive paradise.
		Sweden was like a left-wing paradise.
		Sweden was one of the few countries where left-wing politics worked.
		You know, they have taxes for everything.
		In Sweden, I swear this is true because I have Swedish friends that told me this.
		Property taxes in Sweden depend on how nice your view is.
		So if you have a nice ocean view, they will charge you more, like local council tax.
		I don't know what you call it in America.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Property tax.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Is that property tax, the tax you pay to the city to do the roads and stuff?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, there's property tax that you have.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We have a lot of taxes over here.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, so one of these taxes, if you have a nicer view, they literally have so little to do in Sweden that the government is just sitting around dreaming up new taxes for things and working out how they can charge people more money for things.
		But it was, you know, fairly effective.
		I mean, the country was a nice place.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So what was the thought process between letting all those people in there?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just open-minded, liberal people that wanted to help out.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're not crazy left-wing lunatics who refuse to accept reality.
		They think that language shapes reality.
		They think if they call, you know, if they think if they say lies often enough, that it becomes the truth, you know, which, of course, in some cases is true.
		But if you say Muslims are peaceful often enough, it does not seem to come true.
		There are limits to the power of positive thinking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is there anybody that thinks it's a good thing to have those people there?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are there any arguments that this is a positive sort of multicultural benefit to Sweden?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think Swedish people get it now.
		I haven't seen any signs.
		Yeah, but only now.
		I haven't seen any signs that the government gets it.
		And indeed, in Sweden, of course, it's very heavily socially enforced consensus.
		If you even mention immigration, you're called a racist in Sweden.
		And there's no discussion of it in the papers until very, very recently.
		It's not on TV.
		People just don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it has to spill out over the top before people start calling it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Basically, everyone needs to have a daughter or a friend's daughter who was raped before anything will happen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ.
		Yeah.
		Oh.
		Well, crazy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Sweden, yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And then here's the big picture: how do you take these people from these places where they're coming over here and doing these horrible things?
		How do you educate them?
		How do you change that?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		How do you educate them?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But how does anybody ever, I mean, if you're going to engineer humanity, I don't care about engineering humanity.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I care about keeping my family safe and keeping my culture intact, and I want them deported.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I care about those things as well, but I also think that as a civilization, we should look towards optimizing the rest of the civilization as much as possible.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert to Christianity.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		As Ann Coulter said.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a better solution?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's suppression.
		That's not going to work.
		They're going to secretly build up.
		They're going to make a dirty bomb.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's worked.
		It's worked.
		I mean, Iraq has been neutralized as a threat to the world.
		It's a fucking mission.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking fighting over each other.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's great.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're not coming for us anytime soon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're going to make the move.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Start civil wars everywhere.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're not coming to us anytime soon.
		Iraq has been neutralized as a threat.
		That worked out pretty great from where I'm sitting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, weren't they like a fake threat in the first place?
		I mean, the only reason why they're not.
		We armed him and supported him.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I, in general, think that America is...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's the only country that will go and help other people out, you know, out of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because we like fucking things up.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's very cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, at the end of the day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's something to be said for that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Look, every country in the world likes to rag on America, but where do they come when they need help?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They come to America because they want the boys, you know, they want your boys to make it rain.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, we have a massive amount of military momentum.
		And that military momentum, like, it supports a lot of people in this country.
		And it supports a lot of arms manufacturers, a lot of, there's a lot of industry involved in the military.
		And so we spread out.
		And the way to keep that military moving and the way to keep it operational is you have to have it all over the world.
		So we're in every fucking corner of the world.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So I'm glad that America is, you know, one of the things I want people to remember in this election and remember just generally in life is America's fucking great.
		America's wonderful.
		You know, it's not perfect.
		There are all sorts of things that everybody would like to change about it.
		And the business of improving on America is what politics is for.
		But America's pretty fucking great.
		And speaking as somebody who is not an American, I am so happy, I'm so glad that America does have, you know, like a finger everywhere in the world.
		It makes us safer.
		It makes us more secure.
		America's the only really powerful good guy in the world.
		And thank God for you.
		Thank God for you.
		The state of the world, if it weren't for America, and, you know, it's a sort of brinkmanship like con, really.
		You know, if all the bad guys wanted to act, America couldn't fight them all off at once.
		So if they were smart, they would all just do what they want.
		You know, like Russia would be like, yeah, okay, Muslims, you have Europe and we'll have America, you know?
		Like that, and China, God knows, you know?
		That could happen.
		America couldn't take them all on at once.
		But the risk of going to war with America is so great that the world doesn't, you know, is essentially peaceful, you know?
		Thank God for you guys.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thank God there's one superpower.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's one super.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And thank God that that superpower is America and not China, not Russia, not Iran.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it could be.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And of course it could.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And it could be if the left succeeds in destroying this country.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But don't you think that the people on the left, they don't believe that that's the case?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they don't believe America is a good thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They don't believe it's a good thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They don't believe it's a good thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They don't believe there are global because they're children with no understanding of geography, history, or anything else.
		They don't appreciate how America keeps the world safe.
		And you can disagree with individual military actions.
		And many reasonable people, and I might even be persuaded into this, this position, many reasonable people think Afghanistan, Iraq, and all of the recent wars are a disaster.
		Why go to Vietnam?
		Perfectly reasonable, respectable points of view that I do respect.
		And I enjoy discussing with people because I like finding out about these things that I don't know everything about, right?
		Love to have the discussions.
		Very important that America reflects on what it's done before so it acts better in the future.
		But to say that, to suggest that the world isn't a better place for America's presence and preeminence is absurd.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, in this stage of the game, when you're looking at the alternative, being Putin, being China, you know, I mean, we do have some legitimate dictators that are out there in the world that kill their adversaries.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Putin is the most gangster of gangsters when it comes to a public leader, like a guy who is, there's no shadow dealings.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's killing people in broad daylight.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, he is.
		And you think about the, as again, we're going back to what we said earlier about, you know, America's values.
		And this was a, Margaret Thatcher used to say, this is a country not founded on nationality or whatever, but founded on principle.
		Yeah.
		And I think that's true.
		And I think Americans are quite keenly aware of that.
		That's why they care about the First and Second Amendments and some of the others.
		And why they care about freedom of speech and liberty and prosperity and freedom and property rights, all this kind of stuff.
		And obviously the capitalism that has made all of that possible.
		This has created a country in which pretty much anyone can do pretty much anything.
unidentified		Now, that's great.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You can even, if you are so inclined and so insane, get other people to pay to turn you into a woman if you want to.
		That's how tolerant and permissive American society is.
		Now I might say that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who's paying for that?
		Insurance companies are paying for that?
		Is that what's going on?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		In America, I think.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If a girl identifies...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So if a girl identifies with a man, they can change her.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I know in...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a mixture of insurance companies and Medicare and Medicaid because they're all poor.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're all poor?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, transsexuals, transgender folk, as the left wants us to call them, are vastly disproportionately socioeconomically underprivileged.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What about Bruce Jenner?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Rich as fuck.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he's an outlier.
		Most transgender people are an outlier.
		Yeah, he's not that cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Leather straps.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		To be strictly accurate, all you can say is that transgender people are disproportionately poor and socioeconomically underprivileged.
		They come from lower orders and tend not to have much in their bank account.
		So, yeah, I think it's a mixture of insurance companies and the public health stuff you have here, which always is so confusing to me, these weird, complex things you have, just get rid of them.
		You don't want this creeping national health service you seem to have here because it's crazy.
		But yeah, certainly in the UK, it's completely taxpayer-funded.
		And everywhere in Europe, Canada.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Transgender operations, completely taxpayer-funded.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Now, how do they determine whether or not someone's valuable or viable?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Doctors do that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They just say, yeah, this guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But meanwhile, the doctors have a vested interest in performing more of the surgeries.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they do.
		Yes, they do.
		And of course, if somebody is really insistent, and this happens more than you would think, and it's not reported on very often, it's very difficult to find someone to go on the record about this stuff, but you'll find that very often when somebody wants to go in for the surgery and the doctor says no, they will start kicking up a fuss.
		They might accuse the doctor of transphobia, ask for another doctor.
		People basically, people who want this stuff are mad, so they act like mad people.
		So they will go doctor shopping.
		They will go around every doctor until somebody says yes.
		They will beg, borrow, and steal for money to do crazy stuff to themselves.
		They will insist and cry foul and bully and yell at doctors until they get what they want.
		I mean, doctors are only humans.
		Some of them must just want an easy life, you know?
		Somebody comes in and says, I want to be a woman and they're clearly unhinged.
		At some point of doctor number 17, somebody's going to be like, you know what, fuck it.
unidentified		Whoa.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think you've managed to piss all the right people off today.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad.
		I'm glad.
		If you've been offended by this show.
		Good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think you probably converted 17 or 18 people to voting for Trump.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's all I ask.
		That's all I ask.
		20 people a day, and I will have done my bit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think you probably get it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's probably closing in on 20.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Splendid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How many transgender people are mad at you right now?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, they shouldn't be mad because I, you know.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they should be mad.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They should probably be pissed.
		They should be pissed, yeah.
		But I think you had some very reasonable points about what an odd business the whole thing is.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		America is in a weird place.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's also the ideology that we are being forced to accept.
		And Kurt Metzger, who's on the podcast, a very smart guy and a funny dude, he grew up a Jehovah's Witness.
		Is that what it was?
		Or a Mooney?
		Jehovah's Witness.
		He grew up in a cult.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's the door-to-door ones, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		A couple of them go door-to-door, but the Mormons do too, right?
		I don't know.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Jehovah's Witnesses are the famous ones.
		They have the Watchtower magazine.
		I know who that is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, point being, he equated it correctly to this sort of box thinking where you're not allowed to think outside that box.
		It's just like religion.
		He's like, I understand this kind of thinking.
		I grew up with this kind of thinking.
		Like, you can't make me think like this.
		I know what you're doing.
		Like, this is not rational or objective.
		You're not talking about these things in a fair way.
		You have a very biased, very predetermined pattern that you're forcing people into subscribing to.
		And if they don't, then there's something wrong with them.
		They're bigoted or they're assholes or they're transphobic.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Or worse, they try to pathologize you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If it's me, they call you a self-loathing gay man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Or a toxic male masculinity.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't hate myself.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I just don't agree with you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a weird thing when you can't agree or you can't disagree with someone.
		Like, you're not allowed to debate it.
		The discussion is closed.
		And this is not as simple as, is hot hot?
		Is cold cold?
		Is metal hard?
		No, these are things that complex.
		These are complicated.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The etiology of homosexuality is complex and nuanced and may be different for different people.
		The correct treatment pathway for transgenderism is complex and nuanced and may be different for different people.
		The left simply doesn't make space for how complex life really is.
		They demand this sort of conformity from everybody else.
		You know, if you're gay, you can't be a Catholic.
		You must hate yourself and one of you is in conflict with the other.
		Yet they demand that we accept their crazy self-descriptions.
		You know, I'm a genderqueer, non-binary, whatever.
		The height of hypocrisy.
		And at the same time, you know, they expect us to, if not believe, at least publicly go along with lies.
		Lies that oversimplify the complex realities of life.
		People are messy and imperfect.
		We are all on a, not to get too, you know, whatever bugged reader.
		I don't know.
		I don't even have a vocabulary for mysticism.
		You know, not to get too happy club.
		Woo-woo.
		Yeah, not to get too woo-woo about it.
		But we are all on a journey through life, but growing, as you said at the beginning of the show, evolving, becoming different people every, you know, every six months or even sooner.
		And, you know, life is complicated.
		And one of the things that depresses me as somebody who enjoys reading and learning is the oversimplification of life by the left into okay people and bigots.
		Yes.
		And if you don't agree with specific and very often insane points of view, points of view that contradict medical science, points of view that contradict common sense, points of view that at a bare minimum are highly debatable, if you do not go along with this stuff, this increasingly mad stuff, you know, this stuff that is wandering off into crazy territory, you are in bigot land.
		And the left has excluded so many of us for so long, gays, blacks, you know, plenty of blacks feel totally alienated by Black Lives Matter, I would imagine, most of them, in fact.
		And these people are called, you know, Uncle Toms and all the rest of it.
		And that happened on stage in one of my talks.
		If you don't go along with all of this, there's something wrong with you.
		You're pathologised, all the rest of it.
		Well, the left has created, by doing this, the alt-right, me, Donald Trump, and a whole army of disaffected liberals, its own former supporters, who are tired of being told what they can think, say, do, how they can dress, how they can speak, who they can hang out with, you know, what belief systems they can have.
		And it has alienated an entire young generation from left-wing politics.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And isn't it hilarious that it kind of spawned out of a dispute about video games?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the meek have inherited the earth in a sense.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Who would have thought?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Who would have thought?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They stopped being meek.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it was.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The left fucked up when they tried to take the video games.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They fucked up.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, because they were involved.
		They'd done it in comic books.
		They'd done it in fantasy.
		They've done it in sci-fi.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But they took on the smart people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They took on the smart.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They took on the smart people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The smart people are nice.
		The comic book fans are nice.
		But gamers are shit hot smart.
		They are autistic as fuck, which is why I love them, because I am too.
		They are smart, they are determined, and they like to win.
		Because they're used to, I mean, they problem solve for a living, right?
		They're looking at this problem like it was a, you know, like it was a, what are the victory conditions, you know?
		And you don't need to kill everyone on that side.
		You just need to get the flag from one point to another.
		Or you just need to do this kind of stuff.
		So gamers realize, I don't need the press to like us.
		You know, and you can call us misogynistic harassers on the internet if you want to.
		All we want is these feminist lunatics to get out of gaming and for people to leave the creators alone to do what they want and for, you know, for journalists to start reporting honestly about games and stop hating on their own on their own audiences or just fuck off.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what's interesting too is how much bullshit they've exposed in that industry and in the people that are criticizing them who make video games that actually are guilty of doing the exact same thing that these people are criticizing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They've exposed hypocrisy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		All over the world.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They've exposed collusion.
		Doublethink, collusion.
		That lit a match underneath a sort of overwhelming weight.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's about harassment.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's about harassment.
		It lit a match underneath so many different people in so many different worlds.
		When people looked out and they realized that you can beat them.
		You can beat them.
		If you don't give a shit what the press says about you, and why would you, and Donald Trump has proven also that if you don't give a shit what the press says about you, you get stronger, not weaker.
		If you don't care what polite society says about you, you can win.
		You can beat them.
		And this has never been done before, at least not done for 25 years.
		And it's not about the right winning over the left, but it's about freedom and libertarianism and the right to do, say, think what you want, play what you want.
		It won.
		It beat the cultural scolds.
		It beat the feminists.
		It beat the offense brigade.
		Gamergate won.
		And it has ignited so many fires in so many places with so many unexpected consequences and wonderful snowball effects elsewhere in culture and politics and society.
		It's remarkable.
		And we all, I think, who have been emboldened to speak more plainly, encouraged to contradict people more often, reminded that it is not bigoted to have a different point of view and that you are entitled to your opinion no matter what it is and entitled to say it without fear of being called a monster or, you know, suffocated by safe space culture.
		All of those people have video gamers to think, as you correctly suggest.
		It sounds ridiculous, but it is true.
		And it's been a remarkable thing.
		I was just very happy that I was there at the beginning to watch it all unfold.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Milo, we live in strange and exciting times.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A lot of fun stuff is going on.
		This is much better than the last one.
		The headphones made it.
		We didn't talk over each other.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I didn't.
		I feel like this is a really good...
		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It is one of my favorites.
		Thank you, sir.
		I really enjoyed that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Thanks so much for having me, as always.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's it, you fucks.
		We'll see you soon.
		Thanks, everybody.
		Oh, we'll be back tomorrow.
		We're going to do a fight companion.
		Me and Joey Diaz.
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