July 5, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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On the eve of an epic weekend of fights, we come to you live to break this shit down. | |
| The Keto Kid and I. What's up, brother? | ||
| What's up, brother? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| That shirt reminds me of something, and I'm trying to figure out what it reminds me of. | ||
| It's like some Japanese... | ||
| The Endless Summer. | ||
| It's so fucking summer. | ||
| This isn't the yellow one. | ||
| That yellow one is so summer. | ||
| It's a Fighter and the Kid shirt with Brian. | ||
| It's such a perfect shirt for Brian. | ||
| All of his pictures should be him leaping, pretending to be a ballerina. | ||
| For reals. | ||
| The Endless Hour. | ||
| Yeah, there it is. | ||
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Yeah, similar. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very similar. | ||
| So it's a collab with Roots of Fate. | ||
| That's where we got the idea. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| It says summer. | ||
| What's it? | ||
| It's summer every day in Venice Beach, California. | ||
| Unless you're a bum. | ||
| Well, it's still summer, though. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Hot as fuck and a nice tan. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| A nice tan. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Bro, I'll tell you right now, you don't want to be on Venice Beach during July 4th at night. | ||
| Why's that? | ||
| Dude, I even posted it. | ||
| It was like the purge. | ||
| I was scared. | ||
| I had my kid in the car. | ||
| Fucking cuckoo guns, fireworks, smoke. | ||
| I was like, holy... | ||
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Guns? | |
| Oh yeah, streets blocked off. | ||
| People just shoot up in the air too, those stupid fucks. | ||
| They're not like shooting towards the ocean either. | ||
| No, it was like a rap video. | ||
| I fucking flew home. | ||
| I was stressed. | ||
| Dude, I've been to Venice a few times, and every time I'm there, I'm like, why would anybody live here? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, fuck, you live in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I know, that's your style. | ||
| I like to be able to walk. | ||
| I want to be more in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| I want to go straight to the woods. | ||
| What's wrong with you? | ||
| I like it. | ||
| Your kids might not. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Your kids might... | ||
| I don't think they'd like Venice, either. | ||
| There's a comfortable medium. | ||
| There's parts of Venice. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| Like, you're on Abbot Kinney, it was just crowded as fuck. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, there's nice little restaurants there. | ||
| It's a good spot to drop in, get something to eat, and get the fuck out of there. | ||
| True, but it's just packed. | ||
| And feel happy that you don't live there. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| See, I live, like, away from there, where it's slower. | ||
| Like Marina del Rey, right on the beach. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| If you have a Prius, it's a good place to live because the parking spots are all Prius-sized. | ||
| That's why I can walk everywhere. | ||
| Because I like to be able to walk everywhere to the gym and everything. | ||
| Ride my bike, run on the beach. | ||
| You ain't run on the beach where you're at, son. | ||
| No. | ||
| I can run hills, though. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| It's better to run the beach? | ||
| You like to run the beach? | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| You can't be a better path, man. | ||
| You just like being... | ||
| You don't want neighbors. | ||
| Well, there's overpopulation. | ||
| It's not that I don't like neighbors. | ||
| There's a very clear overpopulation problem. | ||
| Like, I told you I went to Yellowstone a couple weeks ago, and one of the things that I got out of that about being in Montana and Wyoming is... | ||
| That, like, you feel more at peace when you're looking at nature and there's less people. | ||
| It's more relaxing. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| There's not the hustle. | ||
| I think you need both, though. | ||
| But there's a reason why there's no one out there. | ||
| You're in the middle of fucking nowhere. | ||
| Your neighbor's with a grizzly bear. | ||
| That's part of the reason, the big reason, the winter. | ||
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The winter comes. | |
| You can keep that. | ||
| And you like that shit? | ||
| I don't mind it. | ||
| You just stay inside, make a fire. | ||
| Your kids are going to be miserable if you move them out there. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| Maybe they enjoy it. | ||
| Saw a bunch of happy kids out there. | ||
| Right now, you move them out there for good. | ||
| They have cell phones out there. | ||
| They have internet. | ||
| There's very few differences, culturally. | ||
| No friends. | ||
| They have each other. | ||
| Oh, there's plenty of people out there. | ||
| You just said there's not. | ||
| 35,000 people in the town. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
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That's a lot. | |
| That's more than I thought. | ||
| How many people are in Venice? | ||
| At least a million. | ||
| 20 million. | ||
| Venice is the size of a football field. | ||
| There's a million people living there. | ||
| You know, Abbott Kenny just got, which is not a good thing, but per square foot, it's the most expensive street in Los Angeles, just beat out Rodeo Drive. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Well, I know that is beyond me, but how crazy is that? | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| I've seen real estate in Venice. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| I saw a house for sale that was $14 million, and it was a house. | ||
| Just a house. | ||
| Just a fucking house. | ||
| I mean, it's Venice, man. | ||
| It's the spot to be. | ||
| Great restaurants, friendly people. | ||
| Then there's some Venice foot guys walking around. | ||
| Not you. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| When Callan first moved there, like way, way back in the day, I used to visit him there, and I'd be like, what in the fuck are you doing here, man? | ||
| Like, why here? | ||
| Well, but when you first moved here, where are you? | ||
| Hollywood? | ||
| No. | ||
| I first lived in Burbank at one of those Oakwood apartments. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I moved to North Hollywood. | ||
| My car got broken into. | ||
| And then I moved to Encino. | ||
| I mean, North Hollywood, that's a hustle, too. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you've been and done that city lifestyle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just too many people. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It's a lot of people. | ||
| I just don't think it's healthy. | ||
| I think you can deal with it, but I think there's an effect of too many people on you all the time, around you all the time. | ||
| Buzz, buzz, buzz. | ||
| All that data coming in, I think it affects your thinking process. | ||
| I think it makes you accelerate. | ||
| They did a study where they put cameras up in cities, and they monitored the amount of footsteps that people take per minute. | ||
| And through the amount of footsteps that people take per minute and the amount of syllables that people speak per minute, they can accurately determine how many people live in that city. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like down to like a thousand. | ||
| You know, they can tell you like, this is two million people. | ||
| This is a city of five million people. | ||
| This is a city of six million people. | ||
| They can tell by watching people walk and by listening to people talk. | ||
| Because when there's too many people around, everything ramps up and accelerates. | ||
| Like, when I was in Wyoming, you know, we're driving around Yellowstone, it's so peaceful and relaxed, and I came back here, and the moment we started driving home, I started feeling it. | ||
| I was like, everyone's driving faster, everyone's cutting everybody off. | ||
| I'm like, this is a direct response to the overpopulation issue. | ||
| Is it overpopulation or is it the hustle? | ||
| It's the American mindset. | ||
| The hustle where you've got to make money, get a job, provide. | ||
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Yeah, but it was Sunday. | |
| They weren't hustling to go make money. | ||
| They were just cutting each other off. | ||
| It's a bummer, for sure. | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| And plus, people don't really talk to each other anymore. | ||
| There's not a lot of that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think it's... | ||
| People aren't as valuable. | ||
| It's like, if you have... | ||
| Do you ever see those things about Pablo Escobar that he used to light fires with like a million dollars? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| It's because he had so much fucking money, a million dollars wasn't shit to him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The same thing happens with people. | ||
| If you live in a place that has 30 million people stuffed into it, you don't value people the way you value people if you're in a small town. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| But you also don't know them either. | ||
| Because you can't. | ||
| Yeah, you can't. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| No, there's no way. | ||
| You'd know less people, which is weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I was talking to Jim Norton about that, because Jim Norton lives in this big-ass apartment building in New York City. | ||
| And he said, I don't know anybody. | ||
| He goes, I've said hi once to a guy that's down the hallway from me. | ||
| I don't know anybody else in the building. | ||
| And I'm like, how many people do you think live in the building? | ||
| He's like, a thousand? | ||
| Maybe more? | ||
| That's a bummer. | ||
| More than a thousand people in the building. | ||
| You can go out of your way, though, to meet people. | ||
| Like, last night I was at dinner at fucking Benihana's. | ||
| When was the last night I went to Benihana's? | ||
| Do your kids like Benihana's? | ||
| Yeah, we go to that place. | ||
| Alright, there you go. | ||
| I don't dig it. | ||
| My girl and her family love it. | ||
| So yeah, we went there, and you sit with random people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm trying to start a conversation because we're having dinner together. | ||
| We're here for the long haul. | ||
| It's a fucking show. | ||
| You're just not getting your steak and then dipping out. | ||
| He's throwing shrimp at your face and all that shit. | ||
| So I'm trying to talk to him, and it was exhausting, man, because you would think they wanted something from me. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'm just like, dude, literally just a friendly conversation. | ||
| So it was weird because we were talking about that last night. | ||
| I'm like, no one really talks to each other anymore. | ||
| And this is ridiculous. | ||
| When I was a kid, I went to Benihana's, and someone paid for my meal. | ||
| Paid for the table. | ||
| And I remember I ordered whatever, chicken and shrimp. | ||
| I only had like $20 in my pocket. | ||
| And I was so stressed. | ||
| I had to drink water and all this stuff. | ||
| So someone paid for the meal and it was like the best day of my life. | ||
| So I was like, alright, now I'm going to pay it forward. | ||
| So before we sat down, I didn't know anyone. | ||
| I just gave the lady my card behind. | ||
| I'm like, I'm going to cover the table. | ||
| She's like, alright, cool. | ||
| Those people I'm trying to talk with, it's their birthday, right? | ||
| It's his girl's birthday. | ||
| She starts ordering fucking pina coladas, all sorts of stuff, man. | ||
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I'm like, god, dog, I fucked up. | |
| Or in all sorts of shit. | ||
| It worked out, though, man. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| It worked out. | ||
| But literally, I didn't need anything from him. | ||
| I didn't want anything. | ||
| I literally just wanted to talk to him, get to know him. | ||
| But I guess I'm a bigger dude. | ||
| I got a fucking full-sleeved tattoo, whatever. | ||
| They were almost scared. | ||
| And they were on a date. | ||
| They were on a date, but still. | ||
| So the dude was probably trying to mack on his lid. | ||
| He doesn't want some better-looking dude. | ||
| A little muscular with all tattoos and shit, talking. | ||
| I was talking to him, though. | ||
| Yeah, but it doesn't matter. | ||
| You're eventually going to start talking to his woman. | ||
| He knows that's coming up. | ||
| Dude! | ||
| She's going to get all excited. | ||
| Oh, so now everyone wants to fuck your girlfriend. | ||
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That's probably what it is. | |
| It's Benihana's! | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't matter. | ||
| It's a family environment. | ||
| People, they have motives. | ||
| They have ulterior motives. | ||
| Well, there you go. | ||
| That's why you live in the fucking mountains by yourself. | ||
| That's why I'm not starting up conversations with random people at Benihana's and buying their food. | ||
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You don't talk to them? | |
| You don't talk to them? | ||
| I do. | ||
| I just don't try hard. | ||
| I mean, if someone says something, I'll talk. | ||
| We'll start talking. | ||
| But I'm like, hey, look at you folks! | ||
| You guys are going crazy over there with the shrimp, huh? | ||
| Good shrimp, isn't it? | ||
| Hey, do you like your shrimp with butter or garlic? | ||
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Hey, man. | |
| You're going to spend some time together. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Get the fuck out of Venice. | ||
| It's just rotting your brain, son. | ||
| Maybe, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, UFC 200, man. | ||
| This is not just UFC 200. This whole weekend is crazy. | ||
| Because it's Thursday night. | ||
| When was the last time there was not just a world title fight on Fight Pass, but a world title fight between Rafael dos Anjos and Eddie Alvarez on fucking Thursday night? | ||
| And it's only on Fight Pass? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What they should do, if it's like a badass fight, they should play that Friday or Saturday for everyone to see. | ||
| Look at this card. | ||
| This is a good card for a Thursday night. | ||
| Goddamn, you got Nelson and... | ||
| Derek Lewis. | ||
| Derek Lewis is your co-main event. | ||
| Alan Joban. | ||
| That handsome motherfucker's back. | ||
| And I don't know this gentleman. | ||
| Bilal Muhammad. | ||
| Do you know him? | ||
| Muhammad. | ||
| Remember the name is his nickname. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| Remember the name Muhammad. | ||
| You motherfuckers with your nicknames. | ||
| That's intense, man. | ||
| Remember the name. | ||
| Get out of here, dude. | ||
| Maybe he didn't pick that. | ||
| Joe Duffy back on the fucking warpath against Mitch Clark after Dustin Poirier put a beating on him. | ||
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| Yeah, Mike Pyle still doing the damn thing. | ||
| He is. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
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Pyle is what? | |
| How old is he now? | ||
| 42, 43? | ||
| He's been doing it forever. | ||
| How old is Pyle? | ||
| He was, of course, Griffin's coach before Force was fighting. | ||
| Legendary gym fighter. | ||
| Legendary. | ||
| Like, before he ever became a UFC guy, like, everybody would talk about him handling dudes. | ||
| Yeah, I've heard crazy stories about him. | ||
| He's a tough guy. | ||
| How old is he? | ||
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He's at least 40, 41. I would say 43. 40. 40. Okay, I'm wrong. | |
| Besides Dan Henderson, is he the oldest guy? | ||
| Dan Anderson's not young. | ||
| Anderson and him are probably the same age. | ||
| Anderson's 40 now, right? | ||
| But at the lighter weights, it's tougher to maintain this long of a career. | ||
| How many of these guys are pissed that they weren't 46 years ago when TRT was in full swing? | ||
| Those are the glory days. | ||
| The glory days. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I mean, I don't have Fight Pass. | ||
| I don't watch on Fight Pass. | ||
| But if that Dos Anjos and Eddie Alvarez cards, that fight is like a fight of the night, you gotta play it on, you know what I'm saying, for the people. | ||
| Dos Anjos needs it just for notoriety as a world champion at 55. I'm hearing Alvarez stories that he's training like a fucking demon, man. | ||
| Yeah, I saw his interview that he did where he said he did 150 rounds of sparring. | ||
| He doesn't believe in overtraining. | ||
| Excuse me, sir. | ||
| It's not a debate. | ||
| It's science. | ||
| There's overtraining. | ||
| And he's like, I think someone just made that up because they didn't want to train that day. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| The thing is, you look at his last two fights where he beat Pettis and he beat Melendez. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| I mean, granted, he beat him, but it's not impressive. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's not like the dream Eddie Alvarez or the Bellator dude knocking dudes out. | ||
| Like, we haven't seen that Eddie Alvarez yet. | ||
| And he said that was his plan. | ||
| But don't you think that a good part of that is because of the competition that he's facing? | ||
| I mean, he's facing the toughest guys in the world. | ||
| So you change your fighting style? | ||
| No, I just don't think he's capable of fighting the same way against those guys and winning. | ||
| I just don't think that you can go balls out against Pettis and just slug it out with him the way he slugged it out with some guys in other organizations. | ||
| True. | ||
| He traded with Melendez, but he has this clinching game now, right? | ||
| That's his thing. | ||
| I can't think of a worse matchup for him. | ||
| Melendez has got a lot of miles on him now at this stage of his career as well. | ||
| Melendez has had some injuries and a bunch of issues. | ||
| You know, Alvarez had those fucking wars with Michael Chandler. | ||
| Did you see how good Michael Chandler looked the other day? | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| He looked good. | ||
| And not just good because of the knockout punch, but looked good before that. | ||
| His footwork and movement, everything looked good. | ||
| I'd love to see him in the UFC. Yeah, I would too. | ||
| Especially after that fight, man. | ||
| That one-punch knockout. | ||
| But I bet Spike is taking care of him. | ||
| I bet they're giving him some good money. | ||
| They should. | ||
| I had a discussion with Mitrione the other day, and I won't discuss his financials, but what he's getting paid, and Chandler being the champ, I'm sure he's getting that paid. | ||
| Mitrione almost got slept. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| He did, and he got wobbling. | ||
| It's crazy how he recovered. | ||
| And now he's fighting. | ||
| I know, that's not good. | ||
| And he was saying, no, that's what I told him. | ||
| I said, dude, it's not smart and for what? | ||
| It's not like it's for a title. | ||
| If it was for a title, yeah, go get your money, become the champ, and then rest. | ||
| But he's fighting some schmuck, some Ollie Thompson guy who fought in the UFC. I don't think he'd want to fight in the UFC. So he's going over there to beat this guy, but then he's like, dude, that's how much they're paying me. | ||
| To be honest, it's easy. | ||
| He didn't say this. | ||
| But this is me gauging from his matchup. | ||
| It's easy work from where he's coming. | ||
| It's super easy work. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| He could probably beat both guys in the same night. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if he did get concussed in that fight, it's hard to tell if he did. | ||
| 100% he has brain. | ||
| The brain suffered some sort of trauma. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You don't get wobbled and just be like, nah, I didn't feel anything. | ||
| He got sat down too. | ||
| Like his knees went, his body sat down. | ||
| Like it was a big deal. | ||
| He's always been that way. | ||
| Like when he fought Roy Nelson, he was like, I wasn't even out. | ||
| I was like, bro, you got fucking rocked, man. | ||
| Maybe you don't remember it. | ||
| I'm telling you, that's brain trauma, man. | ||
| When you get sat down and the lights turn off even for a second, that counts. | ||
| Oh yeah, 100%. | ||
| The brain doesn't, if it's a football hit, if it's punch, kick, elbow, that doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| It's the brain rattling around. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Some guys take comfort in the fact that they were still conscious. | ||
| It's like, I didn't go out. | ||
| John Hendricks said the same thing with Wanderboy. | ||
| I didn't go out. | ||
| No, I get that. | ||
| But if that ref isn't there, you're dead. | ||
| If this is the streets, you're dead. | ||
| Yeah, it's a tough call for him. | ||
| But for Matt, he was just like, yeah, I'm fighting this dude, this dude, this weather payment. | ||
| I was like, get your money, son. | ||
| It's tough, because, you know, if he thinks he could stop it, but then those are the fights that sometimes you can get fucked up in, because you think that it's an easy fight. | ||
| Don't you think? | ||
| I mean, there's times where you step in and you say, this is a fight that I can win pretty easy. | ||
| True, there's overconfidence, but... | ||
| Like Rockhold and Bisping. | ||
| For sure, Rockhold was overconfident going into that fight. | ||
| A little too relaxed. | ||
| Almost disdainful. | ||
| Just did not give a fuck. | ||
| Just got murked. | ||
| Got murked. | ||
| I woke my baby up. | ||
| I know you told me. | ||
| Jumped out of my seat. | ||
| I was so scared. | ||
| Did you hear John Jones talk about that? | ||
| He had a great point. | ||
| Did you hear his interview? | ||
| What'd he say? | ||
| He goes, because the media was like, you know, all this criticism you get for OSP. And he goes, hold on. | ||
| Criticism? | ||
| Let's just go over this. | ||
| It was brilliant shit. | ||
| He goes, what would you guys like to see? | ||
| He goes, I thought it was brilliant. | ||
| He goes, number six guy in the world. | ||
| Southpaw. | ||
| They change it on, what, four-day notice or some shit like that? | ||
| He goes, explosive Southpaw. | ||
| Number six in the world. | ||
| He goes, you want me to act and dance around and get knocked out like Anderson Silva did? | ||
| Or maybe you want me to go in there and not respect them and get knocked out like Luke Rockhold. | ||
| What do you guys want from me? | ||
| He goes, to me, those guys will never be the same. | ||
| Once they get knocked out like that, their legacy is over, man. | ||
| He's like, that won't be me. | ||
| I will go down and... | ||
| Go down as the greatest. | ||
| He goes, you will never see me like that. | ||
| John's smarter in his approach. | ||
| He's definitely smarter in his approach to fights. | ||
| He takes them very seriously. | ||
| Even if he's not 100% trained, he doesn't fight reckless. | ||
| No. | ||
| He fights, he takes chances, but they're calculated chances. | ||
| He's improvisational in his movements, but John's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| I mean, the reason why he's gone into fights... | ||
| And not trained very much and, you know, and like been like fairly out of shape. | ||
| It's just his massive belief in what he's been able to pull off inside the octagon. | ||
| But you would think, especially, what was he, 22 years old when he won the world title against Shogun? | ||
| Yes, he won 28 against Shogun Newark. | ||
| So when he's there, if anyone's going to get... | ||
| Overconfident and do some bullshit. | ||
| It's gonna be Jon Jones. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Dude, to me, that's why he's pound for pound best. | ||
| Because look at the guys he's fighting. | ||
| Like DC, he only has one loss. | ||
| Think about all the guys he's beat. | ||
| That fight, I don't care what anyone, it wasn't that close. | ||
| And DC got taken down and kind of broke. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| So, the guys Jon's beating and what he's doing to him, that's why, to me, he's pound for pound best. | ||
| Who's Mighty Mouse fighting next? | ||
| We've been out, you know, you and I go back for it. | ||
| Wilson Hayes, yeah. | ||
| Cool, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, there's no comparison. | ||
| And then what's next for John? | ||
| Probably Gusvin? | ||
| Rumble? | ||
| Rumble, probably. | ||
| They're just these fucking monsters. | ||
| No, Rumble and Glover are going to fight in 202. So perhaps the winner of that. | ||
| And we saw how it went against, he just dismantled Glover. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I'm just saying, at the margin of error for John, and the way he's beating these dudes, that's why he's pound for pound number one, greatest for me. | ||
| Well, it's definitely an argument. | ||
| You know, it's a subjective conversation. | ||
| I think when you look at the movements and what Mighty Mouse is capable of doing inside the octagon, I don't think anybody touches him. | ||
| But look at level of competition. | ||
| Well, it's also because he's eliminating so much competition. | ||
| Like, look what he did to Benavidez. | ||
| Benavidez is a world-class fighter. | ||
| Knocks him out in the first round. | ||
| Look what he does to Henry Cejudo, Olympic gold medalist. | ||
| Merks him in the first round. | ||
| He had four fights. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He had more than that, but I know what you're saying. | ||
| No, you're not saying in the UFC. You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, he's not this established badass. | ||
| Like, John's Merkin, Gustafin, Vitor, Glover, Chael. | ||
| Like, all these legends, man. | ||
| It's a good point. | ||
| It's a good point. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| But that interview, it was so good, man. | ||
| You guys are going to criticize me for this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Ronda? | ||
| They overlooked their opponents. | ||
| I'm not that guy. | ||
| I respect OSP. Well, not only that, I didn't think that performance was bad. | ||
| Because first of all, I have a lot of respect for OSP. I think OSP is dangerous as fuck. | ||
| He hits really hard. | ||
| He's tough as shit. | ||
| And we saw that in that fight. | ||
| He broke his arm in the fourth round. | ||
| He's explosive, man. | ||
| Yeah, very explosive. | ||
| You can't fuck around with OSP. And also a Southpaw, Joe. | ||
| You know this, when people that have never fought before, when you change from a traditional stance to a Southpaw, you're talking a world of difference. | ||
| The game plan's out the window. | ||
| For him to do it on that short notice is nuts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it is. | ||
| I mean, and he did it because he realized that, you know, he was behind the eight ball already going into that fight with all his personal problems, all the bullshit. | ||
| He had to take that fight, or he felt like he had to, to get sort of like back in the fans' good graces. | ||
| I did not think it was a bad performance. | ||
| A lot of people are saying he looked terrible. | ||
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No. | |
| No, I think he fought a really tough guy. | ||
| And he fought smart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Didn't really take that many chances. | ||
| Fought really smart. | ||
| But also, his mom that week got her leg amputated. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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What? | |
| Yep. | ||
| And, you know what, he didn't fight for what, 15 months before that? | ||
| I think it was 16. So 16 months. | ||
| So he had that, because if that same John fought DC that night, he'd been in trouble. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Or maybe he shows, maybe he hits another switch. | ||
| Well, one of the things that he said when I interviewed him after the fight is it wasn't physical. | ||
| He's like, physically, I felt great. | ||
| He's just like, I just wasn't doing the things that I wanted to do. | ||
| I wasn't executing when I wanted to. | ||
| I was hesitating. | ||
| I think he was under a tremendous amount of pressure. | ||
| I mean, talking about a guy who came that close to going to jail. | ||
| And a lot of people felt like his choices outside the ring were going to lead to his demise. | ||
| And there was a lot of talk about that. | ||
| I mean, just the amount of pressure that he had to be under. | ||
| I mean, all the scrutiny, all that, that was a lot. | ||
| And then on top of that, he's also changed his camp up quite a bit because he started doing a lot of powerlifting. | ||
| Did you hear him talk about that? | ||
| Yeah, he said that it hurt him. | ||
| He's not lifting anymore? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I don't know if that's the answer, but he hasn't lifted this camp. | ||
| Well, you know, some people believe that you should do it, and some people believe that you shouldn't, and some people believe that it's something to do in between camps, and that what you really should be concentrating on during camp is plyos. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that's the... | ||
| And I think most experts agree. | ||
| Like, outside of camp, you build this shell. | ||
| You build your body as healthy and as big as it can get, and then you go into camp and you ditch that heavy lift and all that stuff and just focus on your cardio, explosiveness, footwork, and stuff like that. | ||
| I had a really good conversation with Diego about that once, Diego Sanchez, and he was talking about how he treats it. | ||
| Diego's very smart in his preparation, and that he takes time, like in between, say he has a fight, like he's fighting Jim Miller this weekend? | ||
| Lozon. | ||
| Oh, that's right, he's fighting Lozon. | ||
| So he's fighting Lozon this weekend, right. | ||
| Did he just fight Jim Miller? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes, he won, right? | ||
| Beat Jim Miller. | ||
| No, I thought Jim Miller won. | ||
| Who the fuck won that fight? | ||
| I thought Jim Miller won by decision. | ||
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Really? | |
| Maybe I just picked him to win. | ||
| Man, I'm trying to remember that fight. | ||
| I don't remember that fight at all. | ||
|
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Me neither. | |
| What's that? | ||
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Diego Sanchez. | |
| Yeah, he did win. | ||
| So Diego does all of his pre, before the fight, like, you know, before fight camp starts, he does a lot of physical training. | ||
| He gets his cardio very high. | ||
| He gets his weightlifting up. | ||
| He does all this different stuff, but he doesn't do any sparring. | ||
| He's just drilling, does some drilling, but he's mostly concentrating on physical preparation, like weightlifting, yoga, all that jazz. | ||
| Then He gets in a peak state of physical condition, then he enters a camp. | ||
| Fully trained, very high rate of cardio. | ||
| He's not out of shape when he gets into camp. | ||
| And then when he's in camp, then he concentrates on his skill sets. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's a smart way to do it. | ||
| Because Klitschko does obviously completely different sports. | ||
| The Klitschko brothers did it opposite. | ||
| They would do... | ||
| They call it pre-camp. | ||
| They just focus on skills and like their jab, the straight right, the very basics for two or three weeks. | ||
| And then when they go into camp, they'd add in everything else. | ||
| But the first couple weeks camp was just the basics. | ||
| Very, very basics. | ||
| That's also, he's in his 40s, Klitschko is, right, isn't he? | ||
| This is before that. | ||
| I don't know what he's doing now. | ||
| This is before, yeah. | ||
| How old is Klitschko? | ||
| 42. 42. I'd say 42, but am I off on that, Jamie? | ||
| Heavily relies on Mexican supplements, right? | ||
| The Russians have been known to dabble. | ||
| They've been known to dabble. | ||
| And he looks fantastic. | ||
| He is bodied up. | ||
| Hey, did you see what Brock Lesnar said? | ||
| Did you see what Brock Lesnar said? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, I'm white and I'm jacked. | ||
| Get over it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Dude, I like Brock. | |
| I give him a lot of shit. | ||
| I actually like him. | ||
| When I saw that, I'm like, fuck, hell yeah, man. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| He's a character. | ||
| He's a character. | ||
| He's a fucking character. | ||
| I would bet my entire life that he's dabbled in some of that stuff. | ||
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That's just what they do in WWE. Oh, well, when he was over there, for sure. | |
| But he's been tested five times, or was tested five times when last I heard about it. | ||
| True. | ||
| When he was cleared. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Klitschko and Tyson Fury. | ||
| Meanwhile, the guy on the right beat him. | ||
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He's 40, by the way. | |
| He's 40? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Dad Bod beat him. | ||
| Dad bod. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They didn't beat the shit out of him. | ||
| He beat him. | ||
| He beat him. | ||
| Fucked his head up before the fight. | ||
| That was the big deal. | ||
| I think Klitschko beats him in the rematch. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was such a boring fight. | ||
| Oh, with Brock Lesnar. | ||
| Did you hear what Mark Hunt said? | ||
| Mark goes, they told me like three months ago, hey man, be ready for UFC 200 because we might use you so make sure you're in shape. | ||
| And he's like, they've never done that. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| If you're batshit crazy, if you think Brock four weeks ago was like, yeah, I'll fight at 200. Are they going to test me? | ||
| I'm fine. | ||
| I'm clear. | ||
| Like, it was obviously a plan. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| And I'm not mad at it. | ||
| I get it for entertainment. | ||
| I can't wait to see the fight. | ||
| But you're batshit crazy if you don't think this has been an ongoing thing, and they're just saving this fucking bat card to save the card. | ||
| Well, I know it was an ongoing thing. | ||
| I can tell you. | ||
| I'll tell you everything that happened. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There was a bunch of difficulties in pulling this off. | ||
| Because of WWE? Exactly. | ||
| A lot of it dealt with Vince. | ||
| And Vince McMahon, I call him Vince because I don't know him at all. | ||
| My boy V. We're tight. | ||
| My boy Vinny. | ||
| So there was a lot of work to pull this off, and it was touch or go. | ||
| Touch and go. | ||
| They weren't sure whether or not they were going to be able to pull it off. | ||
| So it was something that they tried to get done, but it took a long fucking time. | ||
| There was a lot of finagling. | ||
| And they've had some cooperation before, like Rhonda. | ||
| She went over there and did some shows, right? | ||
| Or did a show. | ||
| Yeah, completely did. | ||
| Yeah, but... | ||
| But that cross-promotion can benefit them. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Both parties. | ||
| Both parties. | ||
| So I think they wanted to work some stuff out and figure out how to do it right and whether or not they were going to do it right and whether or not... | ||
| You know, it ain't easy to pull those things off when you got a company like the WWE and a company like the UFC and they... | ||
| There's egos, then Brock's their freaking boy. | ||
| Obviously, he's their cash cow, and then he's the biggest draw of all time in the UFC. I get that. | ||
| I wonder what could happen if Mark Hunt lays him out. | ||
| You know, I mean, and here's another thing. | ||
| Like, the reason why he stepped back... | ||
| One of the reasons he talked about when he said he wasn't going to fight again was a few years back, right? | ||
| Three years ago. | ||
| He said he was concerned about concussions. | ||
| Brock said that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he's Mark Hunt? | ||
| And he's fighting... | ||
| Bitch, you're fighting Mr. Concussion. | ||
| Captain Concussion. | ||
| It's fucking Captain Concussion over there. | ||
| Ask Roy Nelson! | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| I mean, he's fighting... | ||
| Captain Concussion. | ||
| One of the best strikers to ever compete in MMA in the heavyweight division. | ||
| The hardest hitter in the world. | ||
| If you gave me a list, he's number one. | ||
| He's certainly in the list. | ||
| I mean, he's more skillful than... | ||
| I mean, you might have a guy that hits harder than him physically. | ||
| Name someone in the heavyweight division. | ||
| He knocked out Roy Nelson, sir. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I mean, it's arguable. | ||
| And then in K1, he knocked out some monsters. | ||
| He knocked out a lot of fucking people. | ||
| There's no doubt about it. | ||
| He hits very, very hard. | ||
| That's why you look at Brock and his career. | ||
| I give him shit about the WD and all that. | ||
| As far as an athlete and him, the balls of doing what he's doing, because he doesn't have that many fights, and they just threw him to the fucking dogs. | ||
| You remember he started with Heath Herring, then he was Frank Mayer, then he's Randy Couture, Frank Mayer. | ||
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And he fought Uber Eam. | |
| He fought the Uber. | ||
| And got dealt with. | ||
| He said, I ain't the Undertaker. | ||
| We ain't rehearsing this. | ||
| Here's a kick to the straight liver, son. | ||
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Remember that? | |
| He wasn't worried about being taken down at all. | ||
| Didn't give a fuck. | ||
| Uber Eam looked so good in that fight. | ||
| To me, that's the hardest fighter ever to beat in the world. | ||
| Yeah, Uber Eam. | ||
| I was scared. | ||
| I was still on the UFC roster, like, oh my god, what if they call me with him? | ||
| What the fuck am I gonna do? | ||
| What the fuck am I gonna do? | ||
| It's not a good guy to fight. | ||
| Not that one. | ||
| Well, it's that one. | ||
| It's almost, I almost want to see what he could have done. | ||
| You know, if we were on old school testing. | ||
| Oh, everyone getting fucked up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We all going Sizzler. | ||
| I mean, that's a good picture right there where you get to see what he looked like, but that's... | ||
| Show him flexing right there, son. | ||
| Yeah, that's the picture. | ||
| Good googly moogly. | ||
| At least you're in the back just like, God damn. | ||
| What in the fuck? | ||
| I was like, okay, how's he keeping that much mass on with all that training? | ||
| You know how. | ||
| Yeah, I know how. | ||
| You know exactly how. | ||
| Mexican supplements. | ||
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Fantastic. | |
| But it's fair. | ||
| You're crazy if you don't think Brock was doing something. | ||
| It's a fair fight. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of things that are fair about it. | ||
| Skillfully, I mean, skill-wise, look, Overeem is a far superior MMA fighter. | ||
| Far superior. | ||
| Oh, striking. | ||
| It's almost hard to put into context how much better he is. | ||
| They're on the same fucking planet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he's so much better than... | ||
| And Overeem knew it, too, because Overeem had seen Brock struggle with Shane and seen Brock get beat up by Kane, and he knew what he was going to do to him. | ||
| I mean, that was a confident, juice-to-the-tits Overeem. | ||
| And he came in guns blazing. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| I mean, he didn't like it. | ||
| Just walking forward. | ||
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Shoot that bullshit college double leg. | |
| Go ahead and shoot that. | ||
| Go ahead and fucking shoot that. | ||
| Ask Fajita how that happened. | ||
| Go ahead and fucking shoot. | ||
| But I'll tell you what, man, I like the way Overeem fights now. | ||
| He's fighting smart as fuck now. | ||
| He moves around a lot, picks his openings, throws those leg kicks when he needs them, and when he lands bombs on motherfuckers, he's hurting people. | ||
| The way he took out Junior, yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Very skillful. | ||
| Very skillful. | ||
| The way he fought Junior Dos Santos, I was heavily impressed. | ||
| And a lot of people were like, Junior's done. | ||
| And then you see Junior box the fucking ears off of Ben Rothwell, and you go, but Junior's not done at all. | ||
| He looked better than ever. | ||
| That's just how good over him is. | ||
| That's how good over him is. | ||
| I mean, you're talking about a world-class kickboxer. | ||
| Real world-class. | ||
| K-1 Grand Prix champion. | ||
| Oh, he's the most decorated guy in the UFC, striking-wise. | ||
| Can you think of someone better? | ||
| Hunt. | ||
| Hunt, you know, is the only one. | ||
| But honestly, when Hunt won the Grand Prix, Hunt lost a decision, and then the guy he fought couldn't go on in the finals, and then he went on the finals and won. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| See, the Grand Prix is a sketchy fucking thing. | ||
| Because... | ||
| You know, it's a tournament and so you got to fight multiple times in a night and if you fight a guy who won by first round knockout and you went through a three round war or Even worse some of these guys went through through like when Joe Schilling fought in that last man standing tournament in Los Angeles when he fought Simon Marcus He went three rounds. | ||
| It was a draw. | ||
| They went to a fourth round. | ||
| And then he knocked him out in a fourth round. | ||
| But he had been dropped in that fight. | ||
| And then you've got to think that fighting like that, it's touch and go. | ||
| So the guy who makes it to the finals might not be the best guy. | ||
| He might just be less beat up from the earlier fights. | ||
| Very fucking cool. | ||
| It's kind of cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It had a little bit of luck to do with it. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, if this punch lands, I get out of there. | ||
| Well, didn't Overeem beat Gokhan Saki in the finals? | ||
| And I believe Saki had a broken arm going into that fight. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, there's that. | ||
| But Overeem, as far as just pure striking, right now, I don't think there's anyone better. | ||
| He knocked out Badr Hari! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In a kickboxing bout. | ||
| He did. | ||
| But the thing is... | ||
| But Batarhari stopped him. | ||
| But he KO'd Batarhari with a fucking left hook. | ||
| From... | ||
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Boom! | |
| Pluto. | ||
| Yeah, but he's fucking way bigger, though. | ||
| What's Batarhari thinking? | ||
| Well, Batarhari, he's been known to dabble in the Mexican supplements himself. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He got pretty goddamn big. | ||
| But Batarhari was going through a bunch of personal issues. | ||
| He'd been breaking dudes' legs in nightclubs. | ||
| I'm not fucking a therapist. | ||
| Lighting planets on fire. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, he just seemed mean, huh? | ||
| He just seemed mean as fuck. | ||
| That whole camp, Mike's gym is filled with monsters. | ||
| Just Melvin, Melvin Manhoof, you know? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Woo, they got some monsters over there. | ||
| Monsters! | ||
| But the thing, my point was, is for Brock, with his experience, fighting these fucking monsters. | ||
| And right now, Brock doesn't need money, although I'm sure he's getting paid the most out of any fighter ever right now. | ||
| He doesn't need money. | ||
| He's just doing it for the competition. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which it shows you the type of balls on this dude. | ||
| Well, he has the type of balls anyway. | ||
| I mean, you're talking about a guy who won the world title against Randy Couture in his fourth professional fight. | ||
| Fucking crazy. | ||
| No, that is crazy. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| I mean, it's David Goliath. | ||
| It is David vs. | ||
| Goliath, but it's still Randy fucking Couture. | ||
| Randy Couture, even though he might have been the David in the David vs. | ||
| Goliath, that's a tough out. | ||
| It's a tough out. | ||
| That's a tough fucking dude. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| And, you know, and Randy has so much experience. | ||
| He's so grizzled. | ||
| That's where sometimes size is just like, huh? | ||
| Well, Brock is just so big. | ||
| And Randy was just trying to strike with him. | ||
| He's like standing in the pocket, like slugging it out. | ||
| I think he thought that that would be his best way to win, you know? | ||
| I mean, keep that big fucker off of him. | ||
| And Brock dropped him with a punch. | ||
| Behind the air. | ||
| Yeah, Brock is a gorilla. | ||
| He really is just a big vanilla gorilla. | ||
| He's a freak, man. | ||
| They got some balls on him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No doubt about it, but it's interesting that a guy takes this much time off the sport and comes off of two tremendous beatings against two of the very best in the division. | ||
| And they weren't close. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not like... | ||
| You know, John Jones Gusslin or John Jones DC where it went to decision. | ||
| We're like, fuck, I'd like to see that again. | ||
| You know, you got murked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And maybe he was sick. | ||
| Granted, he was saying he was sick. | ||
| Certainly for the Cain fight. | ||
| For the Cain fight, he was sick. | ||
| And then for the ovary fight, he's recovering from surgery by like six months. | ||
| I mean, cold-blooded. | ||
| He had a... | ||
| Right in the gut. | ||
| Right in the gut. | ||
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God, dog. | |
| And need him in the gut, too. | ||
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Hey, man. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Over him, just playing for keeps, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you got to do. | ||
| You fucking got him, man. | ||
| Look, nobody had any sympathy for Brock. | ||
| You saw what Brock did to Frank Mir. | ||
| Beat his face in, and then was pointing at him and screaming at him. | ||
| And Frank was so out of it, he didn't even know what was going on. | ||
| I mean, Frank had just got sent to the outer stretches of the universe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That build-up was so rough, though. | ||
| Remember Brock walk off during the countdowns? | ||
| Like, how did it feel to get submitted? | ||
| Like, FUCK THIS! And then Frank just kept jabbing him, jabbing him, jabbing him. | ||
| And then finally, he fucking... | ||
| He beat the shit out of him. | ||
| Tenderized that face. | ||
| It was awful. | ||
| So bad. | ||
| Tough to watch. | ||
| It was that KO and Shane's KO of Mir. | ||
| Both of those two together. | ||
| If you watch those two side by side, you're like, whoa. | ||
| It's a rough day in the office. | ||
| This guy's had some tough losses. | ||
| He's been doing it since he was 19. And now he's suspended, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What did he test positive for? | ||
| The same shit that... | ||
| Melodonium? | ||
| That stuff? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Melodium? | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| That sounds like some shit from Krypton. | ||
| Yeah, it does. | ||
| Doesn't it sound fake? | ||
| He's taking Melodium. | ||
| Nah, I don't think... | ||
| He might have been taking some real shit. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you're a heavyweight. | ||
| What are you doing taking that shit? | ||
| Well, probably just trying to keep his muscle mass. | ||
| You know, there's a lot of guys that, especially late into their career, they start developing real testosterone problems, pituitary gland damage. | ||
| It's a real common issue with older fighters. | ||
| Well, with concussion. | ||
| With football and professional fighters. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because with head trauma, it lowers your testosterone. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Lows you to testosterone. | ||
| Even if you look the same, you don't feel the same. | ||
| You feel depressed. | ||
| You have low energy. | ||
| Even if you keep most of the muscle mass, or at least you look like it, it's hard to tell. | ||
| A guy might weigh the same, but now he might be 20% body fat instead of 10 or 15. So 5% more body fat, but really the quality of his body, the way it moves, it's just not the same. | ||
| Completely. | ||
| Completely different. | ||
| The last thing to go is power and the speed and quickness, you know, is the first. | ||
| But with heavyweights, that's why you look at the heavyweight division, everyone's old, man. | ||
| They still have all this power left. | ||
| So it's hard to tell a guy like Frank, you should probably retire, man. | ||
| He was on our show a while ago, and he was just coming off that loss, and I was going to ask about retirement. | ||
| He wasn't even thinking about it. | ||
| I was like, hell no. | ||
| Why would I do that? | ||
| Look at the division, man. | ||
| Everyone's old. | ||
| It's hard to argue. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's really hard to argue. | ||
| Because you look at guys like Orlovsky, who, old as fuck, came back, almost fucked for the title. | ||
| Orlovsky's been stopped so many times. | ||
| And just doing the damn thing. | ||
| Just keep on, keep on. | ||
| What chin? | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Just keep going. | ||
| It's crazy when you think about how many times. | ||
| Look at Verdun. | ||
| Verdun was cut. | ||
| World champ. | ||
| Came back. | ||
| All these older dudes. | ||
| Roy's not young. | ||
| No. | ||
| Roy was on fucking Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| 36 years old. | ||
| Just fucking... | ||
| Goddamn, I'm 22. What the fuck is he doing here? | ||
| You have kids? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I was like, God, dawg, what are you doing here? | ||
| Yeah, there's not a lot of fresh, young guns. | ||
| Stipe's the youngest, and he's the champ. | ||
| Yeah, and he's the champ. | ||
| How old is Stipe? | ||
| Stipe's 31? | ||
| He's in his prime. | ||
| Tough fight against Overeem in Cleveland. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 33? | ||
| God, dawg. | ||
| Yeah, it's a tough fight against Overeem. | ||
| Overeem right now is coming to his own. | ||
| He's gotten real comfortable, and he's into that Wim Hof breathing method. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| Yeah, he's doing all that shit. | ||
| That's made a big difference, man. | ||
| I think psychologically it's made a big difference too. | ||
| He's been working with Wim Hof for several fights now, and he's won. | ||
| Something's working for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But with Stipe, everyone talks about these super camps. | ||
| You have to come from a super camp. | ||
| Not Stipe. | ||
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No. | |
| Some motherfuckers putting out fires and then jumping in the gym, training with fucking Billy from Kinko's, whooping his ass, became world champ. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| When they fight in Cleveland, what card is that? | ||
| September? | ||
| That's September, right? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| When is that, Jamie? | ||
| For Stipe, he has to apply pressure, but he likes to wrestle, and people forget, fucking Overeem can wrestle, man. | ||
| He certainly can. | ||
| He's trouble. | ||
| That motherfucker can wrestle, and he can grapple. | ||
| Yeah, he certainly can. | ||
| When is that? | ||
| September 10th, UFC 203. Excellent. | ||
| That 202 card. | ||
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Whew. | |
| Yeah, there's a lot of great cards coming up, but let's put up the graphic, Jamie, for 200. Shit, I almost said 100. You think it's the greatest card of all time, huh? | ||
| Man, it might be. | ||
| I'd have to agree with you. | ||
| It might be. | ||
| I mean, look what we got here. | ||
| We got Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier as the main event. | ||
| That is an epic goddamn fight. | ||
| That's an epic fight. | ||
| Epic. | ||
| I got a question for you, Joe. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Let's say you could only watch one fight, and it's either DC, Jon Jones, or Lesnar, Mark Hunt. | ||
| Which gets more views? | ||
| More views is Lesnar, Hunt. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Because without Lesnar on this card, this thing ain't breaking records. | ||
| But me personally, I want to watch DC and Jones. | ||
| Me personally. | ||
| But it's a very close second for the freak show factor. | ||
| Lesnar and Hunt's a very close second. | ||
| But DC and Jones is my number one pick for that card because I want to see how DC figures out. | ||
| Look, I think DC, when he fought Jones the first time, I think Jon Jones fucked him up with the wrestling. | ||
| I think he didn't expect that. | ||
| He didn't expect Jon to be so big and strong. | ||
| I think Jon outperformed. | ||
| Outworked him, beat him. | ||
| I think John just beat him. | ||
| I think DC's a better fighter now. | ||
| I think having gotten through Rumble, having gone through Gustafson, and I think DC... Made some real good points about, you know, how he would have performed versus how OSP would have performed in that fight. | ||
| It might have been an interesting fight. | ||
| And I think he's coming into this fight much more confident and much more able to handle the trash talking and the bullshit. | ||
| That first fight was super emotional. | ||
| Super emotional. | ||
| It's getting a little emotional now. | ||
| You see Jon Jones gets under his skin and it doesn't faze Jon. | ||
| And I love DC. DC knows this. | ||
| I'm way closer to DC than I am, Jon. | ||
| I just don't see what DC's gonna do different at his age and his training camp, what he's gonna do different to beat John. | ||
| Look at leg reach. | ||
| John's 45 inches, DC, zero. | ||
| Hey, USC, how about you measure DC's legs? | ||
| Let's at least get it out there. | ||
| Everybody already knows that John has an advantage. | ||
| You can't just write zero inches, you fucks. | ||
| Maybe just take out both. | ||
| Who's running the fucking website? | ||
| How hard is it to do that? | ||
| If I was Dana White, I'd be fucking... | ||
| Details, son. | ||
| I'd be pulling my eyebrows out right now. | ||
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Details. | |
| I'd be going crazy. | ||
| What the fuck are you doing? | ||
| Why does it say zero? | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| I just don't... | ||
| I'm not that intrigued with this fight. | ||
| The same... | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| And I know I'll get shit for it. | ||
| Like, the Dominic Cruz, you're right, Faber, did nothing for me. | ||
| I love both those guys. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, I wasn't like, I gotta see this. | ||
| DC John? | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| I don't know why, Joan. | ||
| Maybe you can help me. | ||
| With DC John, I'm more interested to see the version of John that comes out, because that OSP one was very safe, John, just getting through to get to DC. That first fight to me wasn't that close. | ||
| And DC has one style of fighting. | ||
| One fucking style. | ||
| And we've seen how that goes against John. | ||
| Good luck, man. | ||
| It was close enough that I think it's intriguing. | ||
| Because it was five rounds. | ||
| And I think DC lost the majority of the rounds. | ||
| Clearly lost the decision. | ||
| Clearly lost. | ||
| But I think he posed enough problems, given the fact that I think that he was compromised emotionally going into that fight. | ||
| I think he was overwhelmed. | ||
| And I think he's learned and gotten better since then. | ||
| So I'm curious. | ||
| I'm curious. | ||
| You know, if I was a betting man, and I am a betting man. | ||
| You would 100% put money on Jon Jones. | ||
| Unless you hate money. | ||
| Based on the first fight. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You'd have to. | ||
| And also, I think Jon needed that warm-up fight. | ||
| I think having a fight against a guy like OSP, being off for 16 months, and then taking on a top six guy in OSP who's a dangerous motherfucker and beating him. | ||
| And, you know, people say he didn't look good. | ||
| I just disagree. | ||
| I disagree, too. | ||
| I think it was a tough guy. | ||
| He fought a tough guy. | ||
| Awkward guy. | ||
| Yeah, I think he performed very well. | ||
| So that's my number one fight, for sure. | ||
| But for the freak show factor... | ||
| Lesnar Hunt? | ||
| Lesnar Hunt's the freakiest freak show of the freak shows. | ||
| And by the way, when they were talking years ago about Brock Lesnar coming back, and Dana and I were having a conversation, I said, please, Mark Hunt. | ||
| Please. | ||
| Oh, you asked for it. | ||
| That's what I was saying. | ||
| You son of a bitch. | ||
| I said, please. | ||
| I go, that's the fight. | ||
| I go, look, if you got a guy who's the big fucking power wrestler, right, that has a little bit of a problem with striking. | ||
| A little bit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who do you pit him up against? | ||
| Well, you pit him up against a guy who's built like a fire hydrant, right? | ||
| He's only like 5'9". | ||
| He's 265 pounds. | ||
| He's got to cut weight to get down to 265. He hits like a fucking asteroidal impact... | ||
| Straight up. | ||
| He takes a shot as good as anybody that's ever lived. | ||
| He's got these legs that don't even look real. | ||
| Like his knees are like he took 13 knees and glued them together. | ||
| They look like two tortoiseshells. | ||
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They're so big. | |
| Just two fucking sea turtle shells. | ||
| He's so thick. | ||
| So thick. | ||
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Everything about his bones, his head, he's just thick. | |
| And he's not intimidated in the least bit of Brock Lesnar. | ||
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By anything. | |
| By anything. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| Been there, done that. | ||
| He's a warrior. | ||
| Brock Lesnar, also, zero-inch leg reach. | ||
| Measure his legs. | ||
| You're giving him $50 billion. | ||
| Measure his fucking legs. | ||
| Yeah, someone needs to get on that. | ||
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To me, so let's say... | |
| Worst case scenario for WWE and the fucking UFC. Let's say Brock Lesnar goes in there and is like, HUN, HIKE! Gets fucking murked. | ||
| This ain't fucking Triple H. I'm knocking your fucking head up to the third row. | ||
| So he gets murked in 30 seconds. | ||
| Is Brock just like, ah, fuck. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| He's done. | ||
| It's over, right? | ||
| Yeah, I would imagine. | ||
| That's three in a row. | ||
| You got murked all three. | ||
| Unless he just decides, like, this is what I want to do now. | ||
| And I only have, like, three or four years left in my body. | ||
| What did we say he was? | ||
| 38? | ||
| Is that what we said Brock is? | ||
| I mean, can't possibly have that much time left in his body. | ||
| If he wants to wrestle, he can. | ||
| God, that picture's classic. | ||
| 38, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so he's 38 years old. | ||
| I mean, realistically, a natural 38-year-old athlete, it's just not much time. | ||
| There's not much time. | ||
| Like, yeah, like I'm looking at my watch, yeah, about seven hours. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, unless you're a guy like Bernard Hopkins, and again, and we're using the word natural with air quotes, because boxing, you can get away with a lot of shit and not get caught. | ||
| Some shit. | ||
| So who the fuck knows? | ||
| I'm just saying, I don't think he... | ||
| So if he beats Mark Hunt, let's say he gets him down, fucking does his Brock Lesnar round and pound. | ||
| If he beats Mark Hunt and Overeem beats Stipe, they set it up. | ||
| God, God. | ||
| See, I'd watch that. | ||
| Brock Lesnar for president! | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
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That's nuts. | |
| Could you imagine? | ||
| The ratings would go boom. | ||
| And that's not something outside of the realm of possibility. | ||
| Oh, not at all. | ||
| Neither one of those things are outside the realm of possibility. | ||
| If Stipe beats... | ||
| Even if Stipe beats Overeem, I think you could still possibly make that fight. | ||
| I think you make Stipe Brock. | ||
| Yes, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| If Stipe beats Overeem. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| But if Overeem beats Stipe, it's a natural. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Then Overeem gets on... | ||
| Look at the difference in his body. | ||
| I look the same. | ||
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He's on steroids. | |
| I'm coming off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, then you set that up, and if Brock shoots a fucking power double on Overeem, pins him against the cage and beats him into oblivion. | ||
| Oh, you got the biggest star of all time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's the fucking Tom Cruise of fighting. | ||
| And he becomes the new heavyweight champ. | ||
| And then Kane... | ||
| He wants to fight Kane again. | ||
| Come get some. | ||
| Everyone gets dealt with. | ||
| Kane's got to get through Travis Brown. | ||
| I'll tell you what. | ||
| He's a big favorite. | ||
| Kane is a tough motherfucker. | ||
| As tough as they get. | ||
| But you've got to think about the amount of wear and tear on his body. | ||
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Correct. | |
| We're talking about knee operations, shoulder operations, back operations. | ||
| There is a ton of stuff that's been giving out on Kane's body. | ||
| So you have to be concerned with whether or not he can make it through full camps. | ||
| That anesthesia can't be good for you. | ||
| He's getting it non-stop. | ||
| Well, the anesthesia is not... | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| He comes out with a big bubble ass. | ||
| What happened to Kane's ass? | ||
| When I'm under, might as well get it done so I don't have to go back. | ||
| Kane decided to get an ass job. | ||
| To me, this is my... | ||
| If you're a betting man and you're like DraftKings or whatever, this is my upset pick. | ||
| I think Travis Brown is your upset pick here because Kane's had so many injuries. | ||
| Granted, he went through a full camp with DC. It's a fucking tough fight, man. | ||
| It's a tough fight. | ||
| Travis hasn't looked great, right? | ||
| He poked Matt in the eye. | ||
| He beat me. | ||
| He got knocked the fuck out by Orlovsky. | ||
| But fighting-wise, Hoppa's a monster, man. | ||
| He doesn't look great, though. | ||
| Well, I'm concerned with his camp. | ||
| And the amount of sparring partners he's getting. | ||
| He's not at Jackson's anymore, which is just a hotbed. | ||
| And, you know, there's two schools of thought, right? | ||
| There's one school of thought. | ||
| Well, he's getting much more individual attention. | ||
| He's got one guy concentrating on him all the time. | ||
| He's working his mitts. | ||
| He already knows how to fight. | ||
| This is just an opportunity. | ||
| And he's working with Ricky Lindell, who's going to help him tremendously with his wrestling. | ||
| Ricky's a fantastic grappling coach. | ||
| Ricky's in Vegas, though, right? | ||
| I think Ricky was working with him, though. | ||
| No, he does. | ||
| He's been working with him for a while, but I don't know if he's full-time. | ||
| Maybe he's going back and forth. | ||
| Either way, Ricky's one of the best in the business. | ||
| He's fantastic. | ||
| Very, very smart guy, too. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I would have to find out, and I will find out this week, what kind of training he's getting in his camp, who he's working with. | ||
| That makes a big difference with a guy like Travis. | ||
| Especially when you're fighting a guy like Kane. | ||
| I wonder why Travis moved away from Jackson's. | ||
| I felt like that was such a great camp. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| It was his face. | ||
| What do you mean you wonder why? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, I don't... | ||
| Do you? | ||
| I mean, he's obviously... | ||
| You're giving me the face. | ||
| Well, it's like, I feel like it's pretty obvious, right? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Like, he moved to Glendale. | ||
| His girlfriend's here. | ||
| They're living together. | ||
| Okay, I get it. | ||
| Excuse me, sir? | ||
| Okay, that way. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Well, that's... | ||
| That's not good enough for me. | ||
| Me fucking neither! | ||
| Rhonda, you ever thought about moving to New Mexico? | ||
| It's fucking beautiful. | ||
| That's a tough sell. | ||
| We'll go run the mountains together. | ||
| I'll find you a Starbucks. | ||
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Is she working for Starbucks? | |
| I have no idea. | ||
| Every time we get a photo with her, she's got a... | ||
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| It's a delicious beverage. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with it. | ||
| Hopefully they're a sponsor. | ||
| To me, it's an upset pick. | ||
| If there is one on this card, that's your upset pick. | ||
| Just because... | ||
| Obviously, I fought Travis. | ||
| He's a fucking nightmare to deal with. | ||
| He's so long. | ||
| He's explosive. | ||
| And Kane's coming off this long layoff, man. | ||
| He's always hurt. | ||
| There's gonna be some point, and I fucking guarantee it, where Kane's not the same. | ||
| We're just like, oh, there it is. | ||
| It's like they age overnight. | ||
| Because camp, he's been wrestling since he was fucking two months old in diapers. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Well, it's also all the stuff that you're looking at that breaks, okay? | ||
| Look at what's going on. | ||
| Shoulders, knees, back. | ||
| All that stuff? | ||
| Boy, those are things that are real hard to come back from. | ||
| You're not talking about a broken hand. | ||
| You're not talking about he snaps his forearm. | ||
| You're talking about critical points of pressure. | ||
| Critical stress points. | ||
| Shoulders, knees, back. | ||
| When those things start going, man. | ||
| As a fighter, you need those. | ||
| And how much time has he had to truly rehab it? | ||
| We've seen pictures of his body where it was just a few months ago and quite honestly, it didn't look good physically. | ||
| He's never looked good, though. | ||
| But he looked worse than he usually does. | ||
| It looks like he's been steady on the burritos. | ||
| Not just that, but it's also like, muscularly, he didn't look like he was built up the same way. | ||
| No, yeah, he did not look good. | ||
| He's not the keto kid. | ||
| But, uh... | ||
| If there's a time for Travis to ever get Cain Velasquez and beat him now, and remember, this is a three-round fight. | ||
| If it's five, oh, he's taking you swimming, son, into the deep waters, and it's fucking miserable. | ||
| Ask Dos Santos. | ||
| That motherfucker's never been the same. | ||
| But three rounds with Cain, if your cardio's decent, you can deal with it. | ||
| You're going to get through it. | ||
| But five, he's going to fucking break you. | ||
| But is it the same Kane? | ||
| And if it is the same Kane, if Kane comes back and he's 100% healthy and he's making that mad run towards that title belt again, then it becomes very interesting. | ||
| Then you're talking about a different animal. | ||
| Kane Kane? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kane Kane in his prime. | ||
| Kane, like, second fight with Junior Dos Santos. | ||
| The Ben Rothwell fight. | ||
| Like, some of the other fights that he had. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| I mean, I still maintain... | ||
| It's really between him and Fedor. | ||
| It's between him and Primetime Pride Fedor, and a lot of people go with Primetime Pride Fedor now. | ||
| You gotta put Verdum in there. | ||
| You certainly do. | ||
| You look at his wins. | ||
| You certainly do. | ||
| He also beat Kane. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He beat Verdum, or he beat... | ||
| He beat Fedor. | ||
| He beat Kane. | ||
| He submitted Minotauro. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Submitted Frank... | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that... | ||
| You know, it's funny how if he never fought Stipe, you would say, like, Verdum has emerged as one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. | ||
| But he makes this mad, crazy run at Stipe. | ||
| Like, charges at him. | ||
| That's that emotional Brazil shit. | ||
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Like, fought so crazy. | |
| And Stipe was like, hold up, what? | ||
| Stipe just... | ||
| What a beautiful... | ||
| I've done this in the firehouse, son. | ||
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Gadoosh! | |
| Enjoy Brazil, bitch. | ||
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And the way he hit him moving away was so perfect. | |
| But even he was like, what are you doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ba-boom! | ||
| Like, you're coming into my fucking shot. | ||
| Yeah, it was crazy. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| How about Misha Tate Amanda Nunes? | ||
| That's an interesting one. | ||
| That's a very interesting fight. | ||
| My thing about Nunez, my concern is her cardio. | ||
| She comes out like a bat out of hell. | ||
| She certainly does. | ||
| And she's dangerous as fuck. | ||
| But Misha Tate is as game as they come. | ||
| You know what the problem is, though? | ||
| Misha's a slow starter. | ||
| Like, she always gets in trouble and comes back. | ||
| But with Nunez, she hits so fucking hard. | ||
| If you're a slow starter, that first round, you're gonna have to weather, man. | ||
| If she gets by that first round... | ||
| Tate wins. | ||
| And honestly for, and I know people hate winning, but for the business, Tate's so good for the sport, man. | ||
| She looks fucking, obviously she's beautiful, she speaks great, and she's just a good winner. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| She's articulate. | ||
| She's just a good winner. | ||
| No doubt, but for Brazil, which is a huge market, Amanda Nunes would be gigantic. | ||
| They only have one champ right now. | ||
| Dos Anjos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They said, fuck that testing. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| We're gonna do that now? | ||
| Yeah, and you gotta wear Reebok, bitch. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Amanda Nunes. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| I mean, I hope she really concentrated on cardio for this camp. | ||
| That's all she should be doing. | ||
| Yeah, this is a five-round fight, too. | ||
| Has she ever fought a five-round fight before? | ||
| No, sir. | ||
| Yeah, so that's interesting. | ||
| How about Kat on the prelim said, I beat both you bitches. | ||
| Well, you know, if you look at Misha's fights, she has shown remarkable ability to endure punches and kicks. | ||
| Do you ever see her fight with Julie Kedzie in Strikeforce? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Julie Kedzie can fucking kick. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| She's got some beautiful kicks, beautiful technique, and she caught Misha with a fucking clanger right on the chin. | ||
| And Misha fought it off and gutted it out and eventually got a submission, which is... | ||
| You're not fighting off a Nunez straight punch to the face, though. | ||
| She hits so fucking hard. | ||
| She hits so hard, I think it's going to be trouble, man. | ||
| But do you think she punches as hard as Julie kicks? | ||
| I say no fucking way. | ||
| You ever see that fight? | ||
| That was five years ago, son. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's after Ronda beat her. | ||
| Then that was her next fight, right? | ||
| Somebody put up a highlight clip the other day of Julie Kedzie's kicks versus Misha Tate. | ||
| See if you can pull that up just so we can watch it. | ||
| She was just getting blasted in the face. | ||
| But there's this one. | ||
| She got blasted a couple times with good kicks. | ||
| She hit her with a good front leg side kick. | ||
| Not totally sideways, but tie style to the chest, center flying. | ||
| But there was this one high kick that she caught her just perfect. | ||
| Misa's just... | ||
| It's interesting because you see her. | ||
| She's so soft-spoken. | ||
| She's pretty. | ||
| You know, you just wouldn't... | ||
| There's no indications of how mentally tough she is. | ||
| She is tough as they come. | ||
| Super beast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, what's crazy to me is I was looking at this. | ||
| I'm like, God, who's beat them? | ||
| I looked up... | ||
| Cat beat both of them. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And stopped both of them. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, Cat's a monster. | ||
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Kat's ferocious. | |
| New camp. | ||
| Yeah, she's ferocious. | ||
| Moved to Alliance, moved to San Diego. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She was at our show in Denver, which was a while ago, the Fire and Kid live show. | ||
| And she was in the back and she's like, I'm thinking about moving. | ||
| And you're talking to a guy, me and her were in the same camp. | ||
| I told her, I said, Kat, if you're already thinking that, it's time to go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because you're in this routine here. | ||
| You know, her husband committed suicide. | ||
| You have all this negative energy here. | ||
| Leave. | ||
| You're a monster. | ||
| You'll be fine wherever you're at. | ||
| But you go to Alliance, they have monsters down that can really help you out. | ||
| You start a new chapter. | ||
| It'd be good for you. | ||
| And Eric Del Fiero is the unsung hero in MMA. Him and Mark Henry. | ||
| Him and Mark Henry are two of the unsung heroes in MMA who are like elite, top of the food chain, world-class coaches that don't necessarily get the spotlight that they deserve. | ||
| And also Dominic Cruz, who's been helping Cat quite a bit. | ||
| Did you find that video? | ||
| I've seen anything with just the kicks. | ||
| I found the fight a few times, but not just the kicks. | ||
| I had the last round, too. | ||
| I know it was on Twitter. | ||
| Somebody posted it up on Twitter the other day. | ||
| Dude, how about I was in this goat cart thing with Jason Ellis and Dominick Cruz is there? | ||
| You're competitive. | ||
| You're racing fucking goat carts. | ||
| I see Dominick Cruz in the corner hyping himself up. | ||
| Dead serious going, they don't want you to win. | ||
| They don't want you to win. | ||
| They don't want you to win this. | ||
| He's talking to himself. | ||
| And I'm like, oh, this motherfucker. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| He's playing for keeps. | ||
| And this guy next to me goes, the guy who works there, it's like some Costco fucking warehouse thing they set up. | ||
| He goes, fucking crazy. | ||
| I guess, man. | ||
| That's why he's world champ. | ||
| I tell dick jokes and you work at Costco. | ||
| Because we think this is a game. | ||
| He doesn't, brother. | ||
| There's no game. | ||
| And that motherfucker almost won. | ||
| Get in second. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| They don't want you to win. | ||
| It's not a video. | ||
| It's just a gif. | ||
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But restart that. | |
| Gadoosh! | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Here's the sidekick. | ||
| Well, that was no power. | ||
| Yeah, but wait a minute. | ||
| There's the sidekick to the chest. | ||
| See how she's got it like sort of tie style? | ||
| It's almost like a teep, but sweat this. | ||
| Leg kick, very nice, but now here it comes. | ||
| Here's the clanger. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| How many people survived that? | ||
| That is a clanger. | ||
| Clanger to the mug, and Julie caught her with a punch. | ||
| To think that not only did she survive this, but she went on to win by submission. | ||
| That's a woman's bat to the face, basically what that is. | ||
| Just straight bat to the face. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| No, Misha, she's as good as they come, man. | ||
| For her to keep winning, it's so good for the women's division. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so fucking good. | ||
| Well, really, the rematch with her and Ronda is the fucking fight. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's the fight. | ||
| Even more so than Holly and Ronda. | ||
| Because there's so much animosity. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| Well, because Misha just choked Holly unconscious. | ||
| I know, but I think... | ||
| That Holly-Ronda rematch is way bigger. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Because we've never seen Ronda just get fucking murked and dismantled like that. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And she was talking about suicide. | ||
| She's been out of the spotlight. | ||
| She came back and now she's facing that same foe. | ||
| It's like, oh, fuck. | ||
| And she beats her? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or she just never comes back. | ||
| Well, you don't know. | ||
| I mean, she just got through knee surgery. | ||
| So that's always an issue. | ||
| You don't know how long, what's the extent of the damage? | ||
| What did she get taken care of? | ||
| I believe she had meniscus issues, which is not the worst thing in the world. | ||
| The best of all of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially if you can get stem cell shots in there, which I'm sure she probably did. | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| So, you know, maybe she comes back and maybe she's got more mobility and more agility than ever because of taking care of an issue that's been bothering her. | ||
| You know this as much as anybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bothering her for years. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Or she just doesn't give a fuck about fighting anymore. | ||
| Yeah, there's that too. | ||
| I mean, when you lose in such a devastating fashion like that and then take a long time off of it, I mean, she, without a doubt, has a warrior and a winner's mindset. | ||
| But for how long, you know? | ||
| I mean, does she still want to do it? | ||
| Did she want to jump right back in the way Holly wanted to jump right back in? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm always weird, Tom. | ||
| The only thing that was a little strange was... | ||
| As the face of women's MMA, and you lose one fight, and you're saying how you had suicidal thoughts, and talking about, don't be a do-nothing bitch, and the first thing you want to do, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| And then as soon as it doesn't go your way, you're like, fuck this, man, I'm out. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| That's not a champion. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| Well, she was doing movies. | ||
| It wasn't like she just said, fuck you, I'm out. | ||
| I'm done with this. | ||
| She had two movies set up, one of them being a remake of Roadhouse. | ||
| It's a big movie. | ||
| It's a craziness. | ||
| The whole thing's a big craziness, right? | ||
| So she's got these two movies. | ||
| She's got the knee surgery. | ||
| She's got love. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| It's a lot going on. | ||
| A lot going on. | ||
| But as long as she's happy, she doesn't owe anyone anything. | ||
| She could just ride up on Sunset and make all these movies and be like, fuck it, man. | ||
| She's good now. | ||
| What she did for the sport, she's set for women's fighting. | ||
| But do you think that she would ever be happy going out with a loss like that? | ||
| That's the issue. | ||
| See, that's for her to answer. | ||
| That's tough, man. | ||
| And then there's also, you know, she has the Holly Holm loss she needs to redeem. | ||
| And then now you got Cyborg in that bitch. | ||
| And that's the super fight everyone wants to see. | ||
| And Cyborg's like, let's go! | ||
| Chomping at the fucking bit. | ||
| So while you're making movies, Cyborg's hitting this fucking speed bag like it's their job, which it is. | ||
| Night and day. | ||
| Just waiting for your ass to get off set. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| So it's tough, man. | ||
| But I think what's crazy to me is, you know when Cyborg's coming out, Misha's one of the only girls who's like, I'll fight her. | ||
| That's fucking nuts. | ||
| No one else wanted to fight her. | ||
| She ain't saying that now she's got the title. | ||
| Well, but she's not at 35, she'll do it. | ||
| Yeah, at 35. You're the champ! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| You came from Invicta. | ||
| Why do I give a fuck? | ||
| Most people already know you. | ||
| I'm Misha Tate. | ||
| Meet me. | ||
| You're the one who needs this. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I wonder if she can make 135. I mean, she made 140. She did not look good when she was at the weigh-in. | ||
| I mean, she looked like Skeletor. | ||
| 35 is going to be tough. | ||
| But if you want those big money fights... | ||
| But look, here's the bottom line. | ||
| Christian Bale made 110 when he was in that stupid fucking movie. | ||
| Hey, easy on stupid. | ||
| You're talking about Dallas Buyers Club. | ||
| No, not that one. | ||
| That was Matthew McConaughey. | ||
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Oh, that's right. | |
| But he also made like 97 pounds. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Straight dead. | ||
| Christian Bale was in a stupid movie that nobody watched called The Machinist. | ||
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That's right. | |
| And he almost died. | ||
| He almost died. | ||
| You've seen that, right? | ||
| I've seen pictures of him getting there. | ||
| Matthew McConaughey fucked his body up doing that. | ||
| I'm sure he did. | ||
| He said he's never been the same. | ||
| Oh, fuck's sakes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Matthew McConaughey, he said he'd never been the same again? | ||
| Yeah, he goes, I was doing it naturally. | ||
| He was doing this interview for Dallas Blacks Club. | ||
| He goes, yeah, man, I was losing all this weight. | ||
| And you get to a certain point where my diet, I just couldn't lose any more. | ||
| It didn't look like I had AIDS. It's ridiculous. | ||
| He goes, then I, you know, he didn't say what he took. | ||
| He goes, then I have to do some off-the-market shit to get even lower. | ||
| And you're right, he was always like a big, strong, he's like, I've never been the same. | ||
| My body never came back the same. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| Yeah, especially like Matthew McConaughey's in his 40s. | ||
| So you start doing that to your body when you're in your 40s and just wreck it and your testosterone levels are low. | ||
| Endocrine system. | ||
| Yeah, it devastates your endocrine system. | ||
| Well, have you ever seen like... | ||
| There he is. | ||
| Jesus Christ, he looked bad. | ||
| He was a dime piece before. | ||
| Now look at him. | ||
| Looks like Tales from the Crypt. | ||
| Mad Mike or Magic Mike. | ||
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Magic Mike 2. Look at him, though. | |
| Talk about being balls deep in acting. | ||
| God, look how bad he looked. | ||
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Motherfucker really looks like he has AIDS. He must have felt like he had AIDS, too. | |
| It was a good movie, too. | ||
| It was a good movie. | ||
| Yeah, he fucking sold me. | ||
| Magic Mike you're talking about, right? | ||
| Fuck, no. | ||
| Just kidding, that's not bad either. | ||
| Hey, but the thing is, like, girls who do those, you know, those figure competitions, cut all that weight? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| My buddy's girlfriend did that and my brother's wife did that. | ||
| They never go back to the same, man. | ||
| They just don't. | ||
| Their thyroid, everything's all fucked up on them. | ||
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Really? | |
| Because they lose all this weight, yeah, and then the body goes, and their hormones are all fucked up. | ||
| It's a nightmare, man. | ||
| To get down that low, your body's like, what are you doing? | ||
| Especially for a woman, right? | ||
| Because body fats are usually higher for women than there are for men. | ||
| But it's got to be the same for men, too. | ||
| When guys bodybuild and they get down to that shredded 3% body fat where you see everything. | ||
| Striations and shit. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| And you're doing it just for other dudes. | ||
| Meanwhile, you're covered with tanning solution. | ||
| That orange shit. | ||
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To look black. | |
| Yeah, you basically look black. | ||
| Because someone's like, God, that black guy looks shredded and I'm white as fuck. | ||
| I better get black. | ||
| How weird is that? | ||
| It's true. | ||
| The muscles, they pop more when you're dark. | ||
| Yeah, well, you can see them better. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| It's like a white car. | ||
| It doesn't show the line. | ||
| How about, this is just meatheads at Gold's gym. | ||
| I used to work out there all the time, but I saw a video of Jean-Claude Van Damme saying how kicking is bullshit in the UFC, and he can help guys. | ||
| Yeah, I saw that. | ||
| Did you see that? | ||
| Come on, bro. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| And I love Jean-Claude. | ||
| I love Jean-Claude. | ||
| Well, you know how crazy Jean-Claude Van Damme is, right? | ||
| Crazy about making blockbuster movies. | ||
| He hasn't been crazy about that for a long time. | ||
| How dare you, sir? | ||
| Have you seen any of his reality show? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He had a great reality show. | ||
| I don't know who produced it. | ||
| It was on Showtime. | ||
| Was it? | ||
| It was on Showtime. | ||
| Really? | ||
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JBCD. JCVD, right? | |
| No, that's a movie. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| They put it on Showtime for like a week. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's showing his house, his wife. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He's flying around on that private jet. | ||
| I'm going to have to fight again for the children. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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The show's called Behind Closed Doors. | |
| Oh, that's what it's called? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| But there's one scene with several times where he indicates he's going to fight this guy from Thailand who's won an Olympic gold medalist in boxing. | ||
| And he sets this fight up and he's like, I'm running around doing all the cocaine and all this and I have to show the children that I can get back and I have to fight. | ||
| So he has like all these press conferences set up where him and this guy are squaring off. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| You never saw that? | ||
| Here's a show, Behind Closed Doors. | ||
| By the way, this is from like seven or eight years ago. | ||
| No, I saw this. | ||
| I didn't see that episode that you're talking about, though. | ||
| I've seen this bullshit. | ||
| He's still pulling some numbers, though. | ||
| He's flying private, has this sick-ass crib. | ||
| Yeah, I don't... | ||
| It's a sad story, though. | ||
| He's just old as fuck. | ||
| He's just partying, too. | ||
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Hard. | |
| He's on that cocaine like a motherfucker. | ||
| He's riding that Bolivian marching powder right off into the sunset. | ||
| That shit ages the fuck out of you. | ||
| Oh, dude, he looks every bit of 60. I don't know what he is, but... | ||
| He's in his 80s, I think. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| Still throwing a mean-ass kick, though. | ||
| I think he had, like, some surgery, too. | ||
| Look at that fucking picture. | ||
| Where's his... | ||
| You can see his dick root. | ||
| Right up to the top. | ||
| Even those lines are freaked the fuck out. | ||
| They're like, what are we doing? | ||
| Why is he holding up? | ||
| Look at the picture above that, though, where he looks like the Joker. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| Goddamn. | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| And that's makeup. | ||
| He has makeup on. | ||
|
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Oh, my God. | |
| Holy fuck. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| But that's cocaine, man. | ||
| Cocaine just does that to you. | ||
| Cocaine and bad life decisions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, how old is Jean-Claude Van Damme? | ||
| Let's take a guess. | ||
| I say 55. Does that make sense? | ||
| I'll say, I'll say, God damn, if he's 50, he looks so, he's the most shot out 55 year old I've ever seen. | ||
| How old is he? | ||
| I'm not going to look, I'm going to say 58. 55, I'm right. | ||
| Fuck, look at that. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Because Tom Cruise is probably like 52. And Tom Cruise looks sensational. | ||
| Well, you're talking about that Scientology shit. | ||
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Yeah, you know what it is? | |
| They're helping them hydrate and shit. | ||
| It's just jizz. | ||
| Rub jizz everywhere. | ||
| Just rub it in there. | ||
| Look, he's 54! | ||
| They're the same age! | ||
| They're the same age! | ||
| One year difference. | ||
| And look how fucking stunning this dime piece is. | ||
| Yeah, he's killing the game. | ||
| There's a big difference there, man. | ||
| That is a big difference. | ||
| He's also never been hit in the face before, though. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But neither has Jean-Claude Van Damme. | ||
| How dare you, sir? | ||
| He has a kickboxing record. | ||
| No, he does not. | ||
| Yes, he does. | ||
| He has a point karate fighting background. | ||
| He has a kickboxing record. | ||
| Jamie? | ||
| I don't buy it. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| I think he might have fought some point karate tournaments. | ||
| I really don't think he kickboxed. | ||
| You think you just merc him if you guys... | ||
| Oh, me and him? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, what are we doing? | ||
| Are we doing MMA or are we doing... | ||
| Straight up fight. | ||
| Oh, kickboxing? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't think he has any power. | ||
|
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18-1. | |
| 18-1? | ||
| See, that's not necessarily true. | ||
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Well... | |
| Oh, that's on IMBV. See, there's a fought on tape. | ||
| See, this is a karate fight, right? | ||
| Or is this a kickboxing fight? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| 1979 fight on tape. | ||
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Why did it say caught on tape? | |
| Okay, what is this? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| This is point fighting. | ||
| Motherfucker's fluid, though. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he was... | ||
| But look, he just got tagged. | ||
| Gold. | ||
| Gold. | ||
| Yeah, he's holding a trophy. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look. | ||
| He most likely had some form of competition experience, but was he 18-1 in kickboxing for real? | ||
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No. | |
| I don't know, man. | ||
| 18-1 means you gotta fight for... | ||
| Look, most people don't have more than four fights in a year, so you're fighting for a long period of time. | ||
| Did that say pro? | ||
| No. | ||
| Just had an 18-1 kickboxing record. | ||
| Back then, it could be amateur. | ||
| Because, you know, smokers are just blowing through. | ||
| Look, it's possible. | ||
| I'm not saying I believe it. | ||
| I want to believe it. | ||
| Because he's one of my heroes. | ||
| No doubt the guy had some pretty kicks. | ||
| But the problem with the way he kicks, he's got point kicks. | ||
| They're like flippy, flippy kicks. | ||
| Kickboxing and full contact karate career. | ||
| Full contact career in 77. Wow, 77. Hold on a second. | ||
| That would mean he would be like, how old was he? | ||
| Like 18? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Sounds like a little bit of bullshit. | ||
| 18 knockouts and one defeat. | ||
| He was even named Mr. Belgium in a bodybuilding competition. | ||
|
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Huh. | |
| Killing the game. | ||
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I mean, maybe... | |
| So here's the guy. | ||
| Fucking winning, Joe! | ||
| Since 2009, Van Damme's been planning to make a comeback fight to fight former Olympic gold medalist Somlok Kamsing, who is a Thai boxing champion. | ||
| The fight was a focal point of the ITV reality show Jean-Claude Van Damme behind closed doors. | ||
| The fight has been repeatedly postponed. | ||
| Which many critics doubting it will occur. | ||
| I don't know why they would doubt it at this point. | ||
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How dare you doubt this legitimate fight? | |
| The difficulty of booking the venue. | ||
| Oh yeah, because that's fucking hard in Thailand. | ||
| There's six year olds fighting every fucking Tuesday. | ||
| I mean, look at this. | ||
| In December 2012, Van Damme was seen as a part of Kam Singh's ring crew when Kam Singh fought against Jamhad... | ||
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I don't know how to say that guy's name. | |
| Say that name. | ||
| K-I-A-T-A-D-I-S-A-K. Anyway, colorful name. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, maybe he had some legit kickboxing fights. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| That Wikipedia sounds like some bullshit. | ||
| World Association of Kickboxing Organizations. | ||
| See, one of the problems with kickboxing... | ||
| There's some Callan shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Him and Van Damme had the same shit. | ||
| Oh no, Master Kim. | ||
| One of the problems with kickboxing is there's a lot of world championship organizations. | ||
| A lot. | ||
| Whereas, say, if you and me started up our own organization and said, hey, you know, Brendan, I've been thinking, man, you and I should do a fucking collaboration. | ||
| We're going to do a kickboxing organization. | ||
| Shit, I like this idea. | ||
| The Fighter and the Kid slash JRE World Championship kickboxing matches. | ||
| And then we would just crown some dude world champion. | ||
| And we don't really have... | ||
| It's not like the WBC for boxing. | ||
| No, it's not legit. | ||
| Or the UFC for MMA. It's just like a lot of those. | ||
| Tons. | ||
| I don't know how many world championships there are, especially in the United States. | ||
| There was a ton of them. | ||
| I know that for a fact. | ||
| And you go worldwide, but it's not... | ||
| Bellator calls their guy the world champion. | ||
| Like, Bellator world title. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Well, they can't say, the second best world champion. | ||
| It's not a world champion. | ||
| A world champion is a world champion. | ||
| You could say Bellator champion. | ||
| But when you say world title, the Bellator world title, it's not the world! | ||
| Stop, please. | ||
| But that's fighting. | ||
| That's fighting. | ||
| That's why, like, in the NBA, the Cavs are the world champions. | ||
| Ain't no one on this fucking earth being those five guys in the entire world. | ||
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That's true. | |
| NFL, world champions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Boxing, MMA, it's like, there's all this. | ||
| We're just not up. | ||
| Well, Stipe Miocic is the world heavyweight champion. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Who the fuck is it? | ||
| Who else has the claim? | ||
| The best heavyweight MMA fighters in the world or in the UFC, no doubt about it. | ||
| Stipe's the best of the best. | ||
| He knocked out Verdum. | ||
| He's the world heavyweight champion. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| It's the only belt that really counts. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The UFC belt really counts. | ||
| The only way the UFC belt is even in contention is in some of the lighter weight classes. | ||
| You start going like, Oh, what would happen if this guy fought that guy? | ||
| Oh, I disagree. | ||
| But not even there. | ||
| Yeah, not even there. | ||
| Not even there. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| But that's the only place. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Like, Marlon Marais is a very talented guy, right? | ||
| He's a 145-er, right? | ||
| Or 135? | ||
| 45-er, right? | ||
| Marlon Marais? | ||
| He fights for World Series of Fighting. | ||
| He's a legit, like, world-class fighter. | ||
| See, but this is why the UFC really only is the belt that counts because if he fought in the UFC, you ain't going straight to the belt. | ||
| You going through the fucking ringer of who's who at 45 to get to that belt, which everyone did. | ||
| Which Alvarez did too. | ||
| Marais, what is he fighting? | ||
| 135, yeah. | ||
| So he's a bantamweight, legitimate threat to, in my opinion, anybody in the UFC at 135. I mean, could he really hit Dominic Cruz? | ||
| Who the fuck knows. | ||
| But look at that guy. | ||
| That guy is a savage. | ||
| That's a legit world-class fighter. | ||
| I got skeptical hibble eyes on that body. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He is a bad motherfucker. | ||
| That guy is super talented. | ||
| But unless you're in the UFC, no one gives a fine fuck. | ||
| It's weird because, you know, he's one of the few guys outside the UFC that, like, Justin Gagey's another one. | ||
| A few guys outside the UFC where I go, I want to see that fucking guy fight the best of the best. | ||
| I mean, I see, like, real mad potential in that kid. | ||
| He's the World Series of Fighting 55 champion. | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| Kid's a fucking animal. | ||
| He's a beast, man. | ||
| He started with us in Denver. | ||
| Was a wrestler from UNC. He's just a monster. | ||
| But again, you look at the guys he's beating for these titles. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| No debate whatsoever. | ||
| And there ain't any growing either in the UFC. No. | ||
| Because you come from that world champion. | ||
| Look at Will Brooks. | ||
| First fight, Ross Pearson. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah, he's going right into the hot. | ||
| I mean, that's the nature of the beast with the UFC. It's no different than the NBA or NFL. You're not getting cakewalks. | ||
| If you have this contract, they're paying you a shitload of money. | ||
| So there can be no doubt that the UFC 135 pound and 155 champions are the champions of the world. | ||
| But there is talent in some other weight classes. | ||
| There's talent in some other organizations. | ||
| To prove to your point, look at Eddie Alvarez. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Everyone's like, God, I wonder how you do in the UFC. He's fighting for a world title now. | ||
| He'd be the first guy with a Bellator title and UFC title. | ||
| And I think Chandler, a guy who beat him once and lost to him a second time, I think Chandler looks even better now. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Better than ever. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| He knocked out Patricky Pitbull. | ||
| Good lord. | ||
| He's explosive too. | ||
| He's so quick with his entries and his footwork was fantastic. | ||
| And he's a guy who's doing some, you know, pretty extensive fucking camps to get ready for this. | ||
| Spectacular workout ethic, or work ethic. | ||
| Where do you think, because a guy like Chandler, who's just killing the game, right? | ||
| He's a world champion. | ||
| He has a shitload of... | ||
| But this is the thing, though, Joe. | ||
| Let's say you're his manager. | ||
| He's the king of Bellator. | ||
| Let's say he's pulling in mid-six figures for sure. | ||
| And then he has sponsorship money included, so high six figures per fight. | ||
| Then come to UFC, it's going to be a different animal. | ||
| Now, as a fighter, no one's ever going to say you're pound-for-pound best. | ||
| That's just never going to happen. | ||
| It's just not. | ||
| So what do you do? | ||
| This is what I think. | ||
| He's the champ now. | ||
| Chandler's the 155-pound champ. | ||
| He's got two options. | ||
| Either he sticks it out with Bellator, and Bellator continues to grow. | ||
| But even my man, Jimmy Smith, who is, in my opinion, one of the best fucking commentators in the world, they're making him have to fake excitement about, like, Ken Shamrock versus Hoist Gracie. | ||
| The ultimate honey-dicking. | ||
| They're not doing good moves. | ||
| These are not good moves. | ||
| That one was bad, for sure. | ||
| That's a bad move. | ||
| But, you know... | ||
| For a guy like Jimmy Smith, who's a legit fan, as well as being an excellent commentator, that's a bad place to be. | ||
| You're making this guy have to hype up some horse shit. | ||
| You want that paycheck, bitch? | ||
| You better get crunked for that. | ||
| Ken Shamrock, Hoist Gracie 7. Dada 5000 and Kimbo. | ||
| You better be crunked. | ||
| Rest in peace, Kimbo. | ||
| You better be crunked, too. | ||
| It's Mike Tyson Holyfield. | ||
| Otherwise, we're taking half your paycheck. | ||
| There's nothing good about that. | ||
| I hope they don't have to do that anymore. | ||
| I hope they step away from that. | ||
| But, you know, like the Chandler fight, Chandler could, it's conceivable that if Spike really keeps pumping Bellator and keeps putting it up and keeps, you know, firing up the coals of promotion, that they get to a point where people start mentioning Chandler alongside other guys. | ||
| You'd have to sign more guys. | ||
| I don't know what the deal is with Roy McDonald. | ||
| His contract is up. | ||
| Granted, he lost to Wonderboy, but I know Bellator is going to make a strong push to sign that dude. | ||
| But you've got to get these free agents, man, to have a stable. | ||
| Because right now, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Look at UFC 200. What the fuck? | ||
| Any person on there, any tandem could fight for a main event on Bellator at any night of the week. | ||
| Yeah, Sage Northcutt could. | ||
| Sage Northcutt would be fucking Brock Lesnar over there. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He's a mini Brock Lesnar. | ||
| He'd be a mini Brock Lesnar. | ||
| Did you see his comments? | ||
| What'd he say? | ||
| Said his last fight was a fluke. | ||
| Well, getting choked out's not a fluke, son. | ||
| That's not a fluke. | ||
| Yeah, well... | ||
| He's just young. | ||
| Yeah, he's a young kid. | ||
| I'm a fan. | ||
| He certainly did have a strep throat going into that fight. | ||
| That's been documented. | ||
| And, you know, someone choking you while you get strep throat, you're going to tap pretty fucking quick. | ||
| You have some serious inflammation in your neck and... | ||
| But Brian Barbarina is a fucking animal. | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| You saw how he beat, what's his name, Homeboy, the Brazilian cat that was undefeated. | ||
| Goddammit. | ||
| Goddammit, I can't remember his name. | ||
| Warly... | ||
| Warly Alves. | ||
| He beat that dude, who was a beast. | ||
| Undefeated. | ||
| Guy won the ultimate fighter for Brazil. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Warly Alves. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| And Barbarina beat him in a war. | ||
| Can't call it a fluke. | ||
| It's not a fluke. | ||
| Like, getting nicked by a right hand and getting dropped, you can say that's a fluke. | ||
| It's not even a fluke. | ||
| Guy wanted to punch you, he punched you. | ||
| Yeah, you can chalk that up more as a fluke than a fucking submission that was calculated. | ||
| Like, no, no, no, I decided to take you down and choke you out. | ||
| There's no fluke. | ||
| Like, I went through the steps, choked you out. | ||
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
| Goddamn, he's fighting Enrique Marin Wasabi. | ||
| That's his nickname, Wasabi. | ||
| Fucking Wasabi. | ||
| He's spicy like sushi. | ||
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Like the green stuff on sushi. | |
| Like the green stuff. | ||
| Wasabi. | ||
| I don't know anything about Enrique, do you? | ||
| Nothing besides his name's Wasabi. | ||
| Does he have a UFC record? | ||
| 9-3-0. | ||
| Click on him, Jamie. | ||
| See if you got a UFC record on him. | ||
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Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. | |
| Scroll up, please. | ||
| Is that his UFC record? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he does have a... | ||
| One loss, split decision loss. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's not... | ||
| Yeah, UFC fight night, November 21st. | ||
| He... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Probably a good fight for Sage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If he's on antibiotics. | ||
| That's the kind of fight that he really should be taking. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Don't throw him to the wolves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Build the kid up. | ||
| I mean, the kid's 21 years old, right? | ||
| Is he even 21? | ||
| He's 20, right? | ||
| He's 20, right? | ||
| Or 19. Stud. | ||
| Here's the fucking sleeper that no one's talking about. | ||
| T.J. Dillashaw and Rafael Asuncao. | ||
| That's a tough fight for T.J. Asuncao. | ||
| They fought before, remember? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And who won? | ||
| Asansa in Brazil. | ||
| But very, very close. | ||
| Some people had TJ winning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| TJ needs this fight. | ||
| Yeah, really needs this fight. | ||
| There's a couple guys on this card who really need to win, but I think... | ||
| Sansow's a little tank, man. | ||
| He's a super tank. | ||
| You know, TJ's the biggest favorite on this card. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I think four to one. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| I think just because Sansow's past record, you know, like... | ||
| How much of a favorite is Kane over Brown? | ||
| I think Brown's like plus 225, right? | ||
| Oh, look at this, Jamie. | ||
| Oh shit, Jamie with the quickness. | ||
| 280. 290? | ||
| Yeah, Kane's at 290. See, that's my upset pick of the night. | ||
| If I'm gonna bet. | ||
| Yeah, I could see that being John Jones a big favorite. | ||
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Look at that. | |
| That makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's a couple people who need wins. | ||
| I mean, Jose Aldo. | ||
| Jose Aldo, man. | ||
| He's been gone for a while. | ||
| He got murked by McGregor, talking about shit. | ||
| Kind of need to win. | ||
| Travis Brown, he loses this one. | ||
| It's tough, man. | ||
| I'm surprised that Aldo and Edgar is basically dead even. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Who would you give it to? | ||
| Aldo? | ||
| Boy, it's hard. | ||
| I guess I'm not surprised because you really don't fucking know. | ||
| If you go back and you look at all those past performances, you look at his last fight with Chad Mendes before he fought McGregor. | ||
| Best fight ever. | ||
| Fantastic fight. | ||
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I don't know, man. | |
| That's a tough one to call. | ||
| It used to be even in the odds. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| That's a fucking tough fight to call, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the fact that Connor was able to starch him like that. | ||
| And Frankie just shows no sign of slowing down. | ||
| I know, it's weird. | ||
| He is a fucking animal. | ||
| He posted videos of his workout, like last workout before he went to Vegas. | ||
| He's doing fucking handstands and backflips. | ||
| He's a monster, man. | ||
| His little daughter's working out with him. | ||
| That guy deserves a title shot so bad. | ||
| He certainly does. | ||
| I'm very curious about this fight. | ||
| But think about Aldo, he's never been knocked out like that before. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So we've never seen how he responds. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He could just be a demon, a Brazilian demon. | ||
| Fucking Mercs Frankie. | ||
| It's such a good fight. | ||
| Well, Frankie had a really hard time with his leg kicks in that first fight. | ||
| Really, really hard. | ||
| And this was also, you know, pre-USADA. True. | ||
| And also Frankie, he's been on a straight win streak, son. | ||
| Merkin dudes. | ||
| Cub Swanson fight, just relentless. | ||
| Chad Mendes. | ||
| BJ Penn. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Frankie has been on a tear. | ||
| You know who needs a win like a motherfucker? | ||
| Johnny Hendricks. | ||
| He does. | ||
| And there's not an easy fight at all. | ||
| It's a weird matchup. | ||
| Especially if Kelvin comes in in shape. | ||
| Especially if Kelvin doesn't have a hard time making weight. | ||
| Kelvin's a beast, man. | ||
| He's light on his feet. | ||
| He throws real quick hands. | ||
| He's got great footwork, and he's a southpaw. | ||
| They're very similar. | ||
| They're very similar. | ||
| Kelvin's way more agile, though, on his feet. | ||
| Way more footwork. | ||
| See, I think Johnny puts things together better. | ||
| And I think Kelvin's going to struggle with it. | ||
| Because Kelvin's usually, he's that grinder, like he'll wrestle, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| He'll throw those big bombs. | ||
| Well, shit, that's Johnny's fucking game, man. | ||
| Mmm. | ||
| It's a great fight. | ||
| It is a great fight. | ||
| But I think Kelvin just needs to be really, really focused for this fight. | ||
| This is a giant, important step for him. | ||
| For both of them. | ||
| Johnny loses this one. | ||
| That's three in a row, son. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| And this is a big one. | ||
| This is a really big one. | ||
| Because he's facing a young kid on the way up who's not top ten right now. | ||
| It's a risky fight for Johnny. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| There's certain fights in your career where... | ||
| It's like a fork in the road, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's so competitive, especially at this weight class now. | ||
| It's like, you lose to Kelvin? | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| Well, Johnny's lack of mobility got exposed in the Wonderboy fight. | ||
| Well, fuck, who's didn't? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Wonderboy's just on another level when it comes to that karate style. | ||
| But I also think Johnny, he's always been on discipline outside camps. | ||
| It's catching up with him. | ||
| Now there's no IVs, so you have to be disciplined. | ||
| You want to fight at the world-class level, you've got to be disciplined outside camp now. | ||
| He just didn't look like a killer in that fight. | ||
| He just didn't look like the same Johnny. | ||
| He didn't look like the Johnny Hendricks that knocked out Martin Kampman or the Johnny Hendricks that knocked out Fitch. | ||
| Or the Robbie Lawler fights? | ||
| Yeah, he had fire in his eyes in those fights. | ||
| And you've got to also take into consideration a lot of distractions outside the octagon. | ||
| He started a fucking restaurant. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| He started a restaurant in Texas. | ||
| He opened up a steakhouse and it went under with a quickness. | ||
| I'm not mad at that idea, though. | ||
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Dude, the reviews were harsh. | |
| Just shitty service. | ||
| This terrible food. | ||
| Well, hopefully his ass isn't in there cooking steaks and shit. | ||
| I don't know what he was thinking. | ||
| Restaurants are a bad idea. | ||
| But why would you do that in the middle of your competitive career? | ||
| I mean, I don't know who fucking told him to do that. | ||
| Well, he probably just invested in it. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| It doesn't affect his training, though. | ||
| It affects you. | ||
| Guarantee you. | ||
| Remember, he left that camp, though. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He left. | ||
| And their agreement was, we take a percentage of this and we pay for everything. | ||
| And he's like, fuck this, man. | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| And then he hasn't been the same, man. | ||
| Well, they paid for everything, too. | ||
| They gave him a salary, and then they had hired all these trainers. | ||
| Well, all these camps, these super camps, they all hemorrhage cash. | ||
| You know, like, the Black Zillions are in a situation right now because the owner just declared bankruptcy. | ||
| Did you hear about that? | ||
| Glenn Robinson? | ||
| Yeah, make sure that's true. | ||
| I looked it up and said it wasn't affecting the Black Zillions at the time. | ||
| It affects it. | ||
| The owner has no money. | ||
| He funds that. | ||
| The only way those things make money, the only way those camps make money, the only way, is if they become successful for a long period of time like Jackson's. | ||
| Jackson's done it the right way. | ||
| They have world champions, they have elite high-level athletes trained there all the time. | ||
| They slowly develop a massive fucking clientele. | ||
| They have Massive amounts of students. | ||
| So people are paying dues and they can expand. | ||
| It's students though. | ||
| That's the key word. | ||
| Students pay the bill, the overhead, and then the fighters bring the attention. | ||
| Most people don't do that. | ||
| Like Black Zillions, I don't think they offer any classes. | ||
| They just paid like over him a gigillion dollars to train there. | ||
| And that didn't even work. | ||
| He like worked out by himself in the corner. | ||
| Yeah, he apparently didn't enjoy training with anybody else. | ||
| Does not play well with others. | ||
| He threw a lot of cash at people to get them all over there. | ||
| It's a bad business plan, man. | ||
| It's terrible business plan. | ||
| It's just a rich guy that doesn't know the sport. | ||
| Tool manufacturer with more than $10 million in debt files Chapter 11. See, that ain't good. | ||
| Shit said tool. | ||
| When you have more than $10 million in debt, that means, Jamie, you're richer than him. | ||
| Because he owes 10 million bucks. | ||
| You don't owe 10 million bucks, so you win. | ||
| So this guy's running around like he's rich, driving fucking Ferraris and shit. | ||
| Like, no. | ||
| No, you're not rich anymore. | ||
| You fucked up. | ||
| You spent all your money on Overeem. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| The Ultimate Reality Show, The Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| Remember that with the Black Zealands and American Top Team? | ||
| And he was like the focal point, him and the guy arguing. | ||
| Worst season ever! | ||
| I don't want to see two rich guys argue about his fighters. | ||
| Well, Dan Lambert is an actual guy who trains. | ||
| I mean, I think he's got his black belt now. | ||
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| Super lightweight. | ||
| I mean, he was a brown belt for a long time, and he's a real fan of the sport. | ||
| And if there's anybody that deserves credit for not just keeping that team alive, American Top Team, but dumping a ton of money into it, investing a ton of money into the sport, and developing a legit world-class facility, it's Dan Lambert. | ||
| That guy needs... | ||
| He deserves all the props in the world. | ||
| He's legit as fuck. | ||
| Yeah, get off my TV, though. | ||
| But, uh... | ||
| That AK's done the fucking thing. | ||
| Yes, they'd done it the right way. | ||
| Crazy Bob Cook. | ||
| They never went into debt. | ||
| They did it smart. | ||
| Because they have students. | ||
| Yep, they have students. | ||
| You gotta have students. | ||
| Gotta have students. | ||
| Well, you know what it is, man? | ||
| These guys, like if you look at that guy from the Black Zillions, no offense. | ||
| Let's just be real. | ||
| That guy's a little doughboy. | ||
| He's got a big fat face, probably never good at any sports, and he wanted to be in with the cool guys. | ||
| He wants to be associated with them. | ||
| Yeah, so he decided he's going to pay for everything. | ||
| Maybe he's a big fan of the sport, invests a lot of money in it, and good for him. | ||
| Look, he maintained it for this long, which is way longer than most people would have. | ||
| If you really stop and think about it, You just can't be a smart businessman and get into this sport and dump all that cash. | ||
| You'd have to be some Rupert Murdoch-type character that's got just fucking kajillions. | ||
| You can't have 10 million in debt with your tool company. | ||
| Just can't, man. | ||
| Sorry, dude. | ||
| And then pay over him all this money. | ||
| Over him's like, I'll come! | ||
| And then gets her like... | ||
| I'm not working out at the same time everyone else is. | ||
| He's like, fuck, I didn't even think about this. | ||
| Oh, yeah, bitch. | ||
| We're fighters and we have the biggest egos ever. | ||
| So it doesn't work like that. | ||
| You just don't plug and play guys, man. | ||
| Yeah, you don't. | ||
| You have to be able to figure out some way to make a team. | ||
| And then it's also not a team sport. | ||
| So what happens when, you know, like ATT is dealing with right now with Robbie Lawler about to fight Tyron Woodley? | ||
| You have to figure out a way to navigate those waters. | ||
| This is the first time ATT's had to deal with it. | ||
| It's a good problem to have, though. | ||
| It's a very good problem to have. | ||
| The thing is, you've got to invest in young guys, too. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You can't just be about the superstars. | ||
| You have to have young guys coming up, and they're the guys that you built up. | ||
| Then you have to have class. | ||
| It's just a fucking terrible business plan. | ||
| Yeah, you have to be a real moron. | ||
| You got to be a guy like Dan Lambert, who is very wealthy, but truly legitimately loves the sport. | ||
| Dan loves the sport. | ||
| But if you pull Dan aside and talk to him about the headaches, he'll just go, oh, fucking Christ. | ||
| And Dan's super honest about it. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder if he could go back in time if he'd do it. | ||
| Of course he would. | ||
| He just built a new facility. | ||
| He just built a huge, gigantic place. | ||
| How's he so rich? | ||
| He's a baller. | ||
| He's just very successful in business. | ||
| He's got a bunch of shit going on. | ||
| Does he own a tool company or something? | ||
| No tool company. | ||
| He's a legitimate, you know, super wealthy dude who's a legitimate fan of MMA. I've been friends with Dan for shit. | ||
| Going on like 15 years I've known him. | ||
| He's always been like that. | ||
| I've only talked to him once and he was super nice to me. | ||
| We went to see the IFL. He and I and Eddie Bravo went to see the IFL together. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where was that? | ||
| I want to say it's in like fucking New Jersey or something like that. | ||
| ATT for a while was... | ||
| The biggest camp ever. | ||
| Remember they had like Thiago Alves. | ||
| They had Bigfoot. | ||
| Who else did they have? | ||
| They had Hector Lombard. | ||
| They just had the Who's Who. | ||
| It was like the number one spot to be at, I remember. | ||
| For the longest time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kimbo went down there. | ||
| Robbie Lawler. | ||
| King Mo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They just had Mark Hunt. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Well, Black Zillions extracted people from ATT. They paid people to go over there. | ||
| And there was like a big exodus where a bunch of people just got their bills paid and, you know, threw some money at them. | ||
| You wanted to build up a team. | ||
| I did half my camp for Noguera down there. | ||
| Yeah, how was it? | ||
| With Rashad. | ||
| I mean, it was good sparring because it was like Rashad, Rumble Johnson. | ||
| Did you spar with Rumble? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How was that? | ||
| I mean, nightmare. | ||
| I think we only did one round, but he wasn't in camp, so he's kind of like, whatever. | ||
| He's a fucking nightmare. | ||
| He's huge. | ||
| I was like, you're bigger than me. | ||
| I'm fighting that heavyweight. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Super nice guy. | ||
| And he can wrestle his ass off. | ||
| That's what people don't know. | ||
| He's a fucking stud athlete. | ||
| The camp was good there, but Rashad was getting ready for a fight, too. | ||
| I forget who he was getting ready for. | ||
| Oh, John. | ||
| It may have been John, but... | ||
| You know, it was about Rashad. | ||
| Rashad's the captain of that team. | ||
| It's just weird, man. | ||
| You know, if it's not... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They have to be invested in you. | ||
| It was a good switch up for me because my manager was down there and he had a huge house. | ||
| I needed a change and different sparring partners. | ||
| So I flew down there for two weeks and I'd fly back and forth. | ||
| As you can tell, probably wasn't the smartest. | ||
| The fight didn't go great. | ||
| Seems like a good facility down there. | ||
| It was all right. | ||
| Just all right? | ||
| Just all right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nothing crazy. | ||
| Just all right compared to other gyms. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, what is the best facility right now going? | ||
| Is it ATT? TriStar. | ||
| TriStar. | ||
| How so? | ||
| I think TriStar, because for Ross, he's not... | ||
| He doesn't want fame. | ||
| He was a fighter himself. | ||
| He's ridiculous at kickboxing, jiu-jitsu. | ||
| He teaches the jiu-jitsu in a gi. | ||
| So there's students. | ||
| So he's not riding and dying off the paycheck of Rory or GSP, stuff like that. | ||
| There's professional boxers that work out there. | ||
| They have a boxing ring. | ||
| They have an octagon. | ||
| It's a motivating environment as far as... | ||
| Other gyms, it's intimidating. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| Yes, it does. | ||
| I remember going to Jackson. | ||
| Jackson's world-class, best of the best, but it was non-stop sparring. | ||
| It was like, fuck, man. | ||
| My coaches from Denver weren't there when I'd go there, so I was so intimidated there all the time because it was just straight-up banging. | ||
| Yeah, that could be a problem, too, right? | ||
| The balance between sparring and technical work. | ||
| Keith Jardine and I were just together. | ||
| I haven't seen Keith forever. | ||
| Keith's a close friend, man. | ||
| I look at Keith because he's doing acting now. | ||
| He's doing well. | ||
| He's talking about the podcast game and all this stuff and we're laughing. | ||
| I go, bro, remember how we used to fucking spar? | ||
| Remember? | ||
| You would go in. | ||
| You would do a round with me. | ||
| You would stay in. | ||
| Shane would climb in. | ||
| You'd do two rounds with him and then I would jump in. | ||
| He goes, what the fuck were we thinking? | ||
| I went, dude, you guys are older than me. | ||
| I thought you guys knew what was up. | ||
| He goes, insane, man. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| And he even goes, I wish I would have stopped sooner. | ||
| He goes, those last couple, I wish someone had told me, because we were talking about, he goes, I wish someone would have told me, because I wish I would have stopped sooner, man. | ||
| He goes, those last ones were wasting my time. | ||
| Because we were talking about a mutual friend we have, a very close friend. | ||
| I'm like, fuck, I wish you would have stopped, man. | ||
| He's like, you just talked to him another day. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| He still wants to do it? | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to get a guy to walk away from it because everything else is so muted and dull and the experience of competing is just such a massive, massive rush of excitement and the bleakness of the possibilities and the opportunities outside the cage. | ||
| Yeah, but the issue is if that's your identity, like any athlete, not just fighters, football players, boxers, basketball players, if that's your identity, like you're known as Mr. Fighter and Mr. Basketball, it's depressing, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Super depressing. | ||
| Alright, let's look at that card. | ||
| What else we got on that card? | ||
| So what do you like in the Frankie and Aldo fight? | ||
| That's the toughest fight for me to pick. | ||
| Really, if you take away the last fight with Frankie or with Aldo and Connor, then it becomes a tough fight for Frankie to win. | ||
| Frankie's got to be at his best, right? | ||
| He's an underdog, yeah. | ||
| But Frankie, you look at his victories, and you've got to think he looks better than ever. | ||
| Frankie, he's in his prime right now. | ||
| Unquestionably in his prime. | ||
| The Cub Swanson fight shows that. | ||
| The Uriah Faber fight was not very impressive. | ||
| The Uriah Faber fight was like a fight where he just sort of won. | ||
| But it was not that big of a deal. | ||
| Your eye is fucking tough to finish, man. | ||
| He is tough to finish, but Dominick Cruz beat the shit out of him. | ||
| And Dominick Cruz did it in a much more convincing way. | ||
| You know, Frankie beat him. | ||
| The Chad Mendes fight was spectacular. | ||
| First round knockout. | ||
| That was amazing. | ||
| See, and you can't... | ||
| MMA math never works. | ||
| We all know this. | ||
| But when you see what Frankie did to Chad Mendes, and you look at the war that Aldo and Chad Mendes had... | ||
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| It's just so impressive, man. | ||
| Right, but then you look at what Aldo did to Uriah Faber. | ||
| Beat the fucking brakes off of him. | ||
| He beat the fucking life out of him. | ||
| Beat the life out of him. | ||
| Then you look at what Frankie did to him, it's not as impressive. | ||
| I mean, math doesn't work, does it? | ||
| Doesn't work. | ||
| And then you've got to remember now there's new testing involved. | ||
| I'm not saying he's on things, but I'm saying we only have one Brazilian champ before we have many more. | ||
| Forget about just talking about Brazilians. | ||
| All fighters across the board. | ||
| First of all, Aldo is now, what is he, 32? | ||
| How old is Aldo? | ||
| If you had to guess. | ||
| 31. 31. I would say he's in the neighborhood, right? | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| 29. Okay. | ||
| He's in the neighborhood. | ||
| Been fighting for a long time. | ||
| Had some incredible, incredible fights. | ||
| But you've definitely seen a change in his physique. | ||
| And then you could say, well, you go back to the first Chad Mendes fight in particular. | ||
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Just jacked. | |
| But you've got to think, okay, well, he also had a hard time making 145 back then. | ||
| So it could be that he decided to lean out because it's easier on his cardio. | ||
| There's a lot going on there. | ||
| But didn't... | ||
| Chad tested positive too recently, right? | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| Yeah, he tested positive for some... | ||
| Peptides, I think. | ||
| Some growth hormone peptides. | ||
| Dude, Mousasi is on the fucking undercard against Leonardo Santos. | ||
| He sure is. | ||
| Oh, Tiago Santos, excuse me. | ||
| And no one's even fucking talking about it. | ||
| Jim Miller Gomes kicks the fight pass off. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Gomes is like, I'm the first fight of the night? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| It's good for him. | ||
| Gomi, the way he performs lately has been a shell of himself. | ||
| I mean, it's just winging giant bombs and hands down and plotting. | ||
| You know, Jim Miller's a guy who's just had wars. | ||
| So many wars. | ||
| So has Joe Lozon, man. | ||
| I watch Joe Lozon fight sometimes, and I love the dude. | ||
| He's one of my favorites. | ||
| Mr. Bonus? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's tough, man. | ||
| It is tough. | ||
| It's like, where, you know, what happens there? | ||
| And I'll tell you what, Kat Singano and Juliana Pena is very interesting for the bantamweight division, for the women's bantamweight division. | ||
| Because Kat Singano, first of all, right there, she's like, jacked. | ||
| She's even leaner now. | ||
| Is she? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You'll see new pictures of her. | ||
| Good for her. | ||
| Well, it's a tough fight for her, man. | ||
| Real tough fight. | ||
| Juliana Pena's a beast. | ||
| And they're friends, too, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're not friends. | ||
| Pena and Tate are really close. | ||
| Yeah, which is interesting because they might have to fight. | ||
| Pena said, sign me up. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, she's got to say that. | ||
| Bitch, girls don't care, man, do they? | ||
| She's got to. | ||
| They're just different. | ||
| It's for the title. | ||
| Dudes are like, I don't know. | ||
| Girls are like, I will fuck her up. | ||
| Goddamn, girl. | ||
| Relax. | ||
| This is an interesting fight. | ||
| Striking-wise, Kat has a big advantage. | ||
| Oh, grappling, I'd say Kat. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Cat as well? | ||
| In grappling? | ||
| Juliana Pena can grapple, man. | ||
| She's strong as fuck, dude. | ||
| Cat is so fucking strong. | ||
| Is she? | ||
| She threw Callan around like a fucking rag doll I got on video. | ||
| Did you just say Callan? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| A grown man, though. | ||
| A grown man. | ||
| Is he really a grown man? | ||
| Is he really? | ||
| By whose definition? | ||
| 175-pound man. | ||
| Did he try to grapple with her? | ||
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Yeah, he did. | |
| No. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, poor baby. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| Poor sweetie. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| He's got body dysmorphia the opposite way. | ||
| It's completely opposite. | ||
| Most people think they're smaller than they are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was like, why would you grapple cat? | ||
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No. | |
| Well, not only that, he doesn't train at all! | ||
| Ever. | ||
| I mean, he hit the mitts, I guess. | ||
| And he does something that supposedly is kind of like sparring. | ||
| Don't get me started. | ||
| It's a good fight, though. | ||
| It's a good fight. | ||
| What's interesting is... | ||
| They started standing up, Callan and her? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because Kat wrestled in high school, and then she won Worlds as, I think, a white belt. | ||
| She gets crap. | ||
| And she's a thick girl and fucking strong, man. | ||
| She trains to Lauren Landau and the numbers she puts up, she's a beast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's no joke. | ||
| Strong girl. | ||
| Very tough. | ||
| And that fucking Misha Tate KO. She KO'd her with that elbow. | ||
| She KO'd both those girls in that fucking championship. | ||
| She's nasty. | ||
| Super nasty. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Her husband came in suicide and all that stuff, so she took a shitload of time off. | ||
| And then she lost in literally 13 seconds to Ronda. | ||
| But she was saying how, and it's true, like her head coach, Lister Bullen, who she left to go to Alliance, she was saying... | ||
| He was like, the issue with her is she never wants to game plan and watch tape. | ||
| She just wants to fight and scrap. | ||
| Which at a certain level, you just can't. | ||
| You just can't. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| It's a sport. | ||
| You do have to game plan tendencies. | ||
| And she never wanted to. | ||
| She hated it. | ||
| It stressed her out. | ||
| So the coaches would do it, but tell her, like in that Ronda fight, hey man, you can't run straight at her and just get armbar in 13 seconds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You just can't. | ||
| And so now she's at Alliance and she's like, this is the first fight I'm going to have a game plan for. | ||
| So it could be good. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| Yeah, it could be. | ||
| It's not for everyone. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like they think too much. | ||
| Juliana Pena is going to be at a disadvantage striking, but I don't know if she's going to be at a disadvantage grappling. | ||
| Pena's a fucking beast on the ground. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Very interesting fight. | ||
| Very good fight. | ||
| I think Kat has an advantage as far as just size and strength. | ||
| She's a fucking strong man for a girl. | ||
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This is a fucking crazy card. | |
| Look at this now. | ||
| We just keep going. | ||
| It's almost like Christmas at a rich kid's house. | ||
| Just keep opening up presents. | ||
| Just too much. | ||
| You're at your rich aunt's house and just fucking open presents. | ||
| All these fucking presents. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| I mean, by the end of the night, I'm going to be exhausted. | ||
| Dude, yeah, I'm going on vacation. | ||
| Usually I wouldn't give a fuck, but I will find somewhere to watch UFC 200. Yeah, well, you know, if you have Fight Pass, you could watch pay-per-view from your laptop. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Yeah, you can get pay-per-view from Fight Pass. | ||
| I'm going to Hawaii, though. | ||
| That's a fight town. | ||
| It is a fight town. | ||
| But I watched Fight Pass on my TV the other day. | ||
| I watched a pay-per-view. | ||
| Because I forgot to order a pay-per-view once, and so I bought it off of Fight Pass. | ||
| I was like, oh yeah, you can just get it off Fight Pass. | ||
| That's pretty dope, like an old one. | ||
| That's fucking awesome, man. | ||
| I don't fucks with Fight Pass. | ||
| Well, Apple TV is the shit. | ||
| I love Apple TV. And UFC Fight Pass is an app. | ||
| You can download it, and you watch UFC Fight Pass right on Apple TV. That's pretty dope. | ||
| Oh my god, you have every fight ever. | ||
| And I use my phone as my remote control. | ||
| Damn, dog. | ||
| They're selling me on this show. | ||
| It's like an ad during the fucking... | ||
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Damn! | |
| Damn! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'll find somewhere out there to watch it. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta watch it. | ||
| I can't go to the bar, man. | ||
| It's too intense for me. | ||
| So, highest stakes on the card. | ||
| Like, Dillashaw just coming off one fight. | ||
| One fight ago, he was a world champion. | ||
| Loses a super close decision to Dominick Cruz. | ||
| Super close. | ||
| You lose this one, though. | ||
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See ya! | |
| I know, but think about that. | ||
| Loses a close decision. | ||
| No one's talking about a rematch, right? | ||
| No one's clamoring for a rematch. | ||
| I mean, this guy goes out there, mercs Henenborough, fights Joe Soto on one day's notice, beats him down. | ||
| Kicks him in the face. | ||
| Then, goes ahead and merks! | ||
| Ten and Burrell the second time. | ||
| Just destroys him. | ||
| Loses a close, close decision to Dominic Cruz. | ||
| And everybody's like, yeah, I'm not really interested anymore. | ||
| The sport's nuts, man. | ||
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Fucking crazy. | |
| The sport's like, fuck you. | ||
| But for TJ, that's fucking crazy. | ||
| I mean, the kid was, not only did I, like, and I said this and I meant it wholeheartedly. | ||
| I said not only did he cement his position as a champion when he beat Hennenborough the second time, but I said he made a very good argument for being one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world. | ||
| I think after that Hennenborough fight, I was thinking he's like top ten, maybe even like top five or six pound-for-pound fighters in the world. | ||
| Six is tough, but he's top ten for sure. | ||
| But now it's tough because he lost the decision to Cruz. | ||
| See, if he beats Cruz, then you go, well, the kid's got a real argument there. | ||
| He's top five. | ||
| And he could have beaten him, man. | ||
| Look, all TJ Dillashaw needed was a few more well-placed leg kicks in that fight. | ||
| If he had gone and concentrated heavily on that right leg kick, Dominic Cruz had a fucked up foot. | ||
| Remember he had that plantar fasciitis? | ||
| Which is brutal. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| And... | ||
| I mean, it could have easily went that way. | ||
| He also started planting his feet and digging his toes in. | ||
| Yeah, he was headhunting. | ||
| Dominic fucked with his head, man. | ||
| Dominic got in there deep. | ||
| I want to see that fight. | ||
| I want to see TJ and Dominic. | ||
| Fuck yes. | ||
| That's what I want to see. | ||
| But, yeah, I don't know what they're going to do. | ||
| Who's Dominic going to fight next? | ||
| Does he have a fight scheduled? | ||
| No. | ||
| But they need to fucking do... | ||
| If TJ wins this, then you go TJ Uriah. | ||
| Then they need to do DJ vs. | ||
| Cruz. | ||
| Or John motherfucking Dodson at 135. John Dodson at 135 is terrifying. | ||
| He also beat TJ on Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| He KO'd him. | ||
| He KO'd him and... | ||
| He is fast as fuck and lights people on fire at 135. You don't think TJ wins this one and gets a title shot? | ||
| He might not win this one. | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| No, I'm just saying if he does. | ||
| Yes, he could. | ||
| He lost to this guy. | ||
| He could. | ||
| Or he might have to fight Dodson. | ||
| If he loses, he's fighting Dodson. | ||
| What if he wins, he might fight Dodson? | ||
| Nah, I don't think you do that. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Because if you hate ratings, you gotta go Uriah Faber or Dominic Cruz next. | ||
| It's TJ. TJ, Uriah Faber is where the money's at. | ||
| That's the play. | ||
| What's left for Uriah? | ||
| Man, that makes me sad. | ||
| The shit talk wouldn't be so fun. | ||
| It was so close, though. | ||
| That makes me sad. | ||
| Not anymore. | ||
| Yeah, that makes me sad. | ||
| It really does. | ||
| Yeah, it's a bummer. | ||
| Because when two guys are bros like that, bros before hoes, what happened to that? | ||
| Nobody says that anymore. | ||
| No, that's old school, man. | ||
| I mean, TJ and Uriah were so tight, and TJ's still tight with Chad. | ||
| Chad and him are still buddies, and Joe as well. | ||
| They're still buddies. | ||
| But Uriah, like, he holds a grudge. | ||
| I think they both do. | ||
| That's why the fight would make sense. | ||
| We'd be crunk for it, too. | ||
| Well, I wonder, like, how much Uriah's got left in the tank. | ||
| I didn't like the way Dominic was hurting him in that fight. | ||
| I was like, ooh. | ||
| Dominic's a fucking monster. | ||
| He is a monster, but he's never been known to, like, be a knockout artist other than the Mitsugaki fight. | ||
| He murked Mitsugaki. | ||
| He smashed that dude. | ||
| Fucking. | ||
| But he had Uriah in trouble. | ||
| In, like, real trouble. | ||
| And he put Uriah in a defensive shell multiple times. | ||
| But let me tell you something. | ||
| This is an unheralded guy. | ||
| Rafael Sonsal, number three in the world, okay, as far as contenders. | ||
| TJ's the number one contender. | ||
| But Rafael, no one's talking about him, man. | ||
| He's fucking dangerous. | ||
| So this is a really tough fight for TJ because you got a guy who's already beaten by decision, as questionable as it is, and as close to decision as it is. | ||
| He's a fucking tough out for anybody, man. | ||
| Asensile's no joke. | ||
| And it's not doing TJ any favors. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Like, Asensile, he's number three in the world. | ||
| No one knows who he is. | ||
| He's a fucking nightmare, and he's beat him before. | ||
| Like, it's not doing TJ any favors. | ||
| Yeah, and it's... | ||
| It's one of those fights where no one's talking about it, man. | ||
| How can you? | ||
| Look at this fucking card. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| It's gonna be a tough card to stand out. | ||
| Forget about the bonuses. | ||
| Who's getting a bonus in this fucking card? | ||
| Those bonuses. | ||
| There's something about those bonuses that bug me. | ||
| On UFC 200, it's tough to throw a bonus. | ||
| But it's just something about it that bugs me. | ||
| It's like that you're fighting to hope that they decide that you get extra money. | ||
| And let me tell you something. | ||
| When you think you're getting it, and then they announce you're not, I felt like crying. | ||
| When I beat Mitrione, I was the first heavyweight ever in the UFC heavyweight to win by Anaconda Choke. | ||
| The first in the UFC. They didn't... | ||
| Did you D'Arce him or Anaconda? | ||
| D'Arce, sorry. | ||
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D'Arce. | |
| I was like, damn, I'm getting that bonus. | ||
| I was thinking about how I was spending the money. | ||
| And you put him to sleep. | ||
| Sleep, sleep. | ||
| Sleep, sleep. | ||
| In the first round. | ||
| And we were like, oh, you're for sure getting it. | ||
| Some dude on the undercard won by a guillotine. | ||
| And they gave it to him. | ||
| Dude, my feelings were... | ||
| I was at the press conference. | ||
| Super sad panda. | ||
| Like, I lost the fight. | ||
| I feel like crying. | ||
| Because 50 G's back, you know, 50 G's, I'm like, damn, son. | ||
| We're going Sizzla, bitch. | ||
| We're going Benihanas for everybody here. | ||
| 50,000 is always 50,000. | ||
| Yeah, I don't care who you are. | ||
| Yeah, it's always 50 grand. | ||
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It's a lot of money. | |
| But when you're a struggling fighter, 50 G's, you're like, damn, should I buy a Rolls Royce? | ||
| Should I get that mansion? | ||
| Like, you don't realize, you know what I'm saying? | ||
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I'm like, should I buy a place in Naples? | |
| We'll see. | ||
| Let's talk to the financial advisor. | ||
| This is the one fight where I'm a big fan of TJ as a person. | ||
| I like that dude a lot. | ||
| You fucking love him. | ||
| I love him. | ||
| So I'm looking at this fight and I'm like, woo, this is a tough fight. | ||
| This is a very tough fight. | ||
| That might be one of the more difficult fights to call on the card, but here's the thing. | ||
| When TJ fought Hafele at Sunsal the first time, he was a very different fighter. | ||
| Completely different. | ||
| Pre-Bang Ludwig, who was a different guy. | ||
| And it was in Brazil. | ||
| And he barely won. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tough fight, but Assuncao. | ||
| Who was Assuncao's last victory? | ||
| Assuncao needs to trim up that lower region, son. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Keep it furry. | ||
| Keep it furry and stinky. | ||
| He's got that Brazilian force down there. | ||
| Furry and stinky. | ||
| Stanky. | ||
| Brian Slurway. | ||
| That's a fucking good win. | ||
| He beat Carraway. | ||
| Pedro Munoz. | ||
| He's a legit win. | ||
| Yeah, he's no joke, man. | ||
| He had a lot of time off, though, because of injuries. | ||
| Yeah, look at that, man. | ||
| He fought Dillashaw only two fights ago. | ||
| 2013. Crazy. | ||
| And then his last fight was 2014 against Carraway. | ||
| Carraway's tough as nails. | ||
| He beat Vaughn Lee by submission. | ||
| Vaughn's a good submission guy too. | ||
| And then a split decision versus TJ, which was the close fight. | ||
| Unanimous versus Pedro Munoz. | ||
| And then beat Brian Carraway. | ||
| Another unanimous decision. | ||
| But look, October 4th, 2014. Yeah, it was a long time. | ||
| Long ass fucking time, man. | ||
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Almost two years. | |
| You can see why TJ's a huge favorite. | ||
| Well, he definitely should be. | ||
| He should be a favorite. | ||
| But I can't imagine that Sun Tzu hasn't been, I mean, first of all, got better for sure if he's been training. | ||
| It's just tough if you're not in there with the lights sizzling hot and the fans shouting. | ||
| Screaming. | ||
| Yeah, and he's not going to be in Brazil. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Well... | ||
| What does it mean? | ||
| You tell me. | ||
| What does it mean? | ||
| What's that face? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| You know how it goes down there. | ||
| If you have a lock on this card, what's the lock? | ||
| Jon Jones. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| By far. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I know. | ||
| It's crazy, right? | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Because you look at, like, you go through it. | ||
| John's beat DC before. | ||
| It's pretty easy for him. | ||
| You look at Lesnar. | ||
| I do not think it's easy for him at all. | ||
| Not easy. | ||
| I'm saying how great John is. | ||
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Yes. | |
| That's my lock, man. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| And then Lesnar, Hunt, it's like, I don't fucking know. | ||
| Hunt, if he gets his ass down, Hunt's in fucking trouble. | ||
| Big trouble. | ||
| Big trouble. | ||
| If Brock just bullies his way in, then blast doubles his ass the next Friday. | ||
| And then drops those lunch boxes on his head. | ||
| And Weir's hunt out, so his fucking power's not there. | ||
| Yeah, so that one, I don't know. | ||
| They can go either way. | ||
| And then Tate Nunez, good luck picking that. | ||
| Aldo Egger, it's basically even money. | ||
| You don't think Tate is a favorite in Tate Nunez? | ||
| Oh, she is, for sure. | ||
| But it's still, it's a tough fight. | ||
| It's a tough fight to call. | ||
| It's a tough fight. | ||
| Nunez can knock out anybody. | ||
| I really believe that piston right hand that she hit Sarah McMahon with. | ||
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Woof! | |
| And then Misha's a slow starter, so it's a, you know, if she eats one of those huge fucking right hands. | ||
| And Nunes can grapple, too. | ||
| She can grapple. | ||
| She's a black belt. | ||
| But I still give Misha the advantage on the ground. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| In wrestling, right? | ||
| In scrambles. | ||
| Grappling. | ||
| Just overall, MMA grappling. | ||
| Jesus, tough as fucking nails, too, man. | ||
| Look what she did to Holly. | ||
| That shit was so impressive, man. | ||
| Like, she was just waiting for her. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It was so impressive. | ||
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Very. | |
| So that fight's tough to call Aldo Egger. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| Good luck calling that. | ||
| We don't know who the fuck Aldo is right now. | ||
| No idea. | ||
| We really need to find out. | ||
| He might be on the revenge tour and just murks Frankie. | ||
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Who knows? | |
| And he grabs the mic and calls out Connor. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But I just don't see him murking Frankie. | ||
| I don't see anybody at 145 murking Frankie. | ||
| Nah, me neither, man. | ||
| I was just trying to create drama here. | ||
| Yeah, I don't see that, man. | ||
| I see it. | ||
| Frankie at 145 is a monster. | ||
| Yeah, just Merck Chad. | ||
| And he's just better than ever. | ||
| Just keeps getting better and better and better. | ||
| That's where he belongs, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 45. Look at his footwork, cardio, everything. | ||
| He's not even struggling to make 45. He can make 35. He's a 35-er. | ||
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He is. | |
| You look at the size of him in comparison to TJ and a lot of those guys at 35. That's his weight class. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| He might eventually go down there too, by the way. | ||
| He's talked about it. | ||
| You know fucking Gray Maynard's fighting this week? | ||
| I think he's fighting featherweight. | ||
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What? | |
| Gray Maynard's fighting at featherweight. | ||
| Where? | ||
| Just let that soak in. | ||
| Where? | ||
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In the UFC. What? | |
| Gray Maynard? | ||
| Pretty sure. | ||
| He must be fighting on the undercard of the Friday night fight. | ||
| Unless this brain trauma kicked in. | ||
| I'm making shit up now. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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Look at that. | |
| There he is. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Gray Maynard is fighting Fernando Bruno. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| That's at featherweight. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's interesting, man. | ||
| And he was a huge 55er, like bulk-wise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he was carrying way too much meat, for sure. | ||
| And that was probably a big factor. | ||
| In a lot of his His decision to get lean was the IV band. | ||
| Being that big at 155 and having all that bulk on him, he probably decided to lean out, and then as he was leaning out, it was probably like, you know what? | ||
| With his frame and his power, it might even be better at 145. Just don't carry so much meat. | ||
| His nickname's the goddamn bully. | ||
| He was a big 55er. | ||
| That's because he likes those dogs, those bully dogs. | ||
| I get it, but still, he's a thick dude. | ||
| He was a thick dude, but it was all muscle. | ||
| It's all muscle. | ||
| Click on his link, please. | ||
| And then you lose that muscle. | ||
| Now you're at 45. And really, you know, his chin's been suspect, so he cuts to 45. More than suspect. | ||
| I mean, look at this. | ||
| He's lost four in a row. | ||
| That shit went boom, boom, boom, boom. | ||
| At least the last one was a decision. | ||
| His last win was in 2012, sir. | ||
| I know, and he lost three by KO in a row. | ||
| Ross Pearson KO'd him, and it was ugly. | ||
| Nate Diaz beat the fuck out of him. | ||
| That was a first round KO. And TJ Grant beat the fuck out of him. | ||
| TJ Grant, here's a guy, about to fight for the title, gets a concussion, has to delay it, and now he works in a mine. | ||
| He's done. | ||
| You just ruined my day, sir. | ||
| I saw him the other day. | ||
| He was there for someone's fight. | ||
| I forget who it was. | ||
| But he looks like he hasn't been training. | ||
| Looks thick. | ||
| Like he's just been eating. | ||
| Thicker than a Snickers? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just fucking mining. | ||
| He is a very skillful guy, too, man. | ||
| And a smart guy, too. | ||
| Very smart guy. | ||
| Well, that's why he's not fighting anymore. | ||
| You know, he's not a guy who takes concussions lightly. | ||
| Cesar Ferreira is another guy that looked fucking sensational at one point in his career and has started to fade. | ||
| One of the biggest freaks I've ever seen inside the gym. | ||
| Ferreira? | ||
| Click on that. | ||
| Fucking freak. | ||
| Yeah, who did he just lose to? | ||
| Click on his... | ||
| This is middleweight, right? | ||
| Is he fighting middleweight? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he got knocked out his last fight. | ||
| Who'd he fight? | ||
| Oh yeah, Bambuse. | ||
| Oh no, we saw him lose to Masvidal. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah, we saw him lose to Masvidal. | ||
| He got KO'd. | ||
| And then Oluwale, Bambuse beat him by decision, but Masvidal KO'd him. | ||
| Click on watch that. | ||
| I don't even remember that. | ||
| Yeah, click on watch. | ||
| He gets in these slugfests. | ||
| Does this make us sign up for Fight West? | ||
| We should be signed up already, no? | ||
| Boom, son. | ||
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What's up? | |
| We can't show it on the podcast, but we could watch it, right? | ||
| It's a first-round KO. I just want to see how he knocked him out. | ||
| I'm telling you, he's so athletic, and he's good at everything. | ||
| He was tutelage under Anderson Silva for years, then Lyoto Machida, and then Vitor Belfort. | ||
| Everyone invests all this time in him because he's such a freak. | ||
| Inside the gym, I was like, I don't see how this dude's ever going to lose. | ||
| And then he goes on the Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| He's just a monster. | ||
| But for a reason, it's just not clicking for him in there right now. | ||
| Well, he won the Ultimate Fighter. | ||
| And in the finals, he fought Sergio Moraes, the jiu-jitsu black belt. | ||
| He's the guy who tapped out... | ||
| Krohn Gracie in Krohn's first black belt match. | ||
| Sergio Marais is a beast. | ||
| He is a world, world-class black belt Brazilian jiu-jitsu. | ||
| But Marais caught Cesar Ferreira with a hard elbow, I believe, in that fight and had him stunned. | ||
| Because I remember I watched it. | ||
| I was in Brazil for that one. | ||
| There's a couple guys I've trained with, and I'm just like, dude, these guys are gonna take over the world. | ||
| Todd Duffy? | ||
| I asked Kane in D.C. because he left our camp and went there. | ||
| I'm like, how tough is Duffy? | ||
| They're like, unbelievable, man. | ||
| How's that? | ||
| That guy's fucking RoboCop. | ||
| Maybe he just needs some, like, Vinny Shorman-type mental coaching or something, you know? | ||
| I mean, there's been guys like that, you know, in football, too. | ||
| You're like, holy fuck, this guy's gonna rush for 3,000 yards. | ||
| Then the lights turn on, and it's like, what the fuck happened to him? | ||
| Well, Duffy's fight against Frank Mir was just real crazy. | ||
| Like, what a nutty fucking slugfest. | ||
| Those two said, what? | ||
| Just, let's go. | ||
| And to think that Frank Mir decided to fight like that after all these years in the game... | ||
| All his submission victories, all his crazy fights against world-class fighters, he just said, you know what? | ||
| Let's fucking throw. | ||
| He's in love with boxing right now. | ||
| All he talks about boxing. | ||
| I'm like, for sure, jump guard. | ||
| That's so weird, man. | ||
| So Fajero's trying to pass here. | ||
| And somehow or another in this fight, he gets knocked out. | ||
| I don't remember what the time was. | ||
| There's Vitor in his corner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's bodied up, and he did that capoeira, and he can do it to a T, like a fucking break, just anywhere. | ||
| Flips, all this crazy. | ||
| And he's big, too. | ||
| He's so athletic, man. | ||
| The nicest guy. | ||
| If he got his fucking head right, man, I'm telling you, this guy has the skills to do crazy things. | ||
| You think that's what it is? | ||
| It's a head thing? | ||
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100%. | |
| Oh, he just got tagged on the break there by... | ||
| It's a tough fight for him, too, this young in his career. | ||
| Masvidal is very crisp. | ||
| He's also a fucking vet. | ||
| Yeah, very crisp with his striking, though. | ||
| I'm a big fan of the way he throws punches fast and accurate, but he doesn't load up on anything. | ||
| I feel like he gets there. | ||
| Yeah, I feel like, because he has a pro boxing experience, I feel like whenever goes a decision, Masvidal gets fucked. | ||
| He does get fucked. | ||
| Every time. | ||
| He's one of my favorite fighters to watch. | ||
| He's good at everything. | ||
| He's very smart. | ||
| Very smart dude. | ||
| He was a Kimbo Slice-esque. | ||
| He used to fight backyard. | ||
| Yeah, in those early days, man. | ||
| I watched some of his fights long before he ever came to the UFC. Back when he was fighting Eve Edwards in a bow dog fight. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He caught Eve Edwards with a head kick, knocked him out in Bodog, and I was like, look at this guy. | ||
| Cain fought in Bodog. | ||
| Yeah, old school, man. | ||
| Yeah, so did Chael Sonnen. | ||
| Fought a guy named Jeremiah Constant. | ||
| Boom, yeah, Sonnen fought in it, too. | ||
| Yeah, Bodog had the hottest ring, girls. | ||
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The past, the Russians, and what the fuck was up? | |
| You know Putin had a hand in that. | ||
| Did he? | ||
| If I could just get one night with Putin, would we just paint the town red? | ||
| Do you remember? | ||
| Or white. | ||
| Do you remember that Calvin Iyer guy? | ||
| Icing, icing, icing. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| Do you remember that Calvin Iyer guy who owned Bodog? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He was a guy who wasn't even allowed to come back to America because he was involved in internet gambling. | ||
| Because internet gambling used to be completely legit, but the casinos fucking bribed everybody and went, Fuck! | ||
| Stop this! | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| They ruined what could have been an amazing marketplace. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| But they wanted to preserve casinos in the United States, and especially when it comes to sports betting and things along those lines. | ||
| So Calvin Iyer, he got fucked. | ||
| As did, what's that guy's name? | ||
| Kevin Trudeau. | ||
| Remember that guy? | ||
| That fucking, the ten weight loss secrets that they don't want you to know about. | ||
| Remember that guy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those late night infomercials. | ||
| Swindles. | ||
| Swindle people on weight loss tips. | ||
| Shit like that. | ||
| Turned out to all be bullshit. | ||
| That guy was a swindler. | ||
| But he got fucked too because he started something called the International Pool Tour. | ||
| Oh, right hand. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Masvidal. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| So, Trudeau started this thing called the International Pool Tour, I think it was, or IPT, International Professional, whatever the fuck it was. | ||
| But it was a pro pool organization. | ||
| It spent a ton of money on it. | ||
| Terrible idea. | ||
| No, but the idea behind it, well, Poole is enormous in Asia, enormous in a lot of Europe and other parts of the world. | ||
| And his idea was have online gambling. | ||
| And the online gambling would, like, people would bet on who was going to win at each match, and they would make their profits off that. | ||
| As he was putting this together, they came down on the ban on online gambling. | ||
| Just crushed it. | ||
| The whole business got crushed. | ||
| He's in jail now for some horseshit. | ||
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But of course. | |
| But hiding money somewhere. | ||
| He's one of those dudes that's in jail. | ||
| And they're like, look, we'll let you out if you tell us where the money is. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| You will let me out when you let me out. | ||
| And then I'm going to go right to that fucking coffee can that I got buried in my backyard. | ||
| Dude, I felt slimy watching Bodug. | ||
| You knew there was some weird shit going on. | ||
| It was so strange, man. | ||
| I don't think they paid Matt Lindlund. | ||
| I think Matt Lindlund got fucked, if I remember correctly. | ||
| Didn't he get paid all that they were supposed to pay him? | ||
| Because Lindlund was supposed to get like a million bucks to fight Fedor. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| Lindlund fought Fedor. | ||
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And Fedor cheated! | |
| Remember that? | ||
| Lindlund had a body lock on him, was taking him down. | ||
| Not in here. | ||
| And Fedor fucking hooked a rope and totally cheated and reversed the position. | ||
| And then went to work. | ||
| And then went to work and armbarred him. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Hey, you know, once he went to the ground, he did what he's supposed to do, but he fucking cheated to get there. | ||
| He definitely cheated. | ||
| Welcome mother Russia. | ||
| Hey, and this was when Fedor was Fedor, too. | ||
| Dude, I used to use Bodog. | ||
| I used to bet on sports. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that dude, when he had Bodog fight, he had a giant billboard just outside of Vegas for Bodog fight. | ||
| And you know what was on the billboard? | ||
| Him in a suit. | ||
| These motherfuckers. | ||
| Persians do it here in Hollywood too. | ||
| Yeah, but he shouldn't do that. | ||
| Because first of all, he's already rich as fuck. | ||
| Trying to get famous, son. | ||
| How much pussy do you need, dude? | ||
| You're going to have a surplus of pussy. | ||
| Then you're going to have problems. | ||
| Well, he's paying for it now. | ||
| Plotting against you. | ||
| The pussy's going to be overflowing left and right. | ||
| You're not going to be able to keep a hand on it. | ||
| It's going to get in the way. | ||
| It's going to get in the way you're thinking. | ||
| You're going to be like, I know this motherfucker. | ||
| You got fighters? | ||
| You got a bunch of fighters in your camp? | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| They're fucking all those girls. | ||
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Correct, sir. | |
| Son of a bitch. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| You need an advisor. | ||
| Isn't it weird? | ||
| Famous guys, well, it's like rich guys want to get famous. | ||
| Yes, they do. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of them do. | ||
| A lot of them do. | ||
| Same reason why, like, Len Robinson went with Black Zillions to get the stable of fire. | ||
| You got enough money, what the fuck you doing? | ||
| Not only that, why did he go on television with his big fat face on the fucking Ultimate Fighter? | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| And where Dan Lambert just lambasted him. | ||
| Yeah, he did destroy him. | ||
| Just destroyed, just chewed him apart, and Glenn couldn't say anything. | ||
| What's he gonna say? | ||
| He can't, like, Dan could legitimately beat the fuck out of him anytime he wants, like, in real life. | ||
| So it's like, you can't, there's not a lot of insults. | ||
| He could lay his way. | ||
| It's just a bad idea. | ||
| I mean, just the whole thing. | ||
| Whose idea was that? | ||
| Well, I mean, ultimately, it's good for the teams to show, like, who's the better, you know, what's the better team, who's got the better athletes, who's got the better fighters and coaching. | ||
| Black Zillings won that season, right? | ||
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Yeah, they did. | |
| Yeah, how'd that turn out? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Bitch is bankrupt now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he spent a lot of money to win. | ||
| What a bad idea, man. | ||
| It's not a good idea. | ||
| But Bowdog fight went under, and I don't know why it went under, but the guy was like mocking Dana, and he was like saying at one point in time, you know, that he would like to take Dana with him on his jet-setting lifestyle and show him, you know, invited him to pick him up in his private jet so Dana could see like how he lives. | ||
| You silly fuck. | ||
| This is back before the UFC became the UFC in air quotes. | ||
| It was like $4 billion. | ||
| Yeah, it was still gross. | ||
| See, but is that real? | ||
| I don't know if that's real. | ||
| There's so much confidentiality. | ||
| Nobody wants to give me a fucking straight story. | ||
| I would assume it's real with a smoke, dish, fire. | ||
| Because it's weird. | ||
| They offered $4 billion and Dana was like, you offer $4 billion. | ||
| I think if somebody offers you $4 billion, you've got to say yes. | ||
| Hell yes. | ||
| Good luck scratching together $4 billion. | ||
| Well, there was a number of partners. | ||
| Yeah, but even then, good luck scratching together $4 billion. | ||
| That's a lot of money. | ||
| And, you know, you've got to make sure that everything's in place. | ||
| I mean, it's a tricky thing. | ||
| First of all, you'd have to have Dana stay on. | ||
| You have to have Dana. | ||
| Without Dana, you don't have the same organization. | ||
| You're not going to be able to put together the fights the same way. | ||
| You don't have the same guy doing the press conferences, the same figurehead. | ||
| It's very important. | ||
| So then why would you buy it, though? | ||
| Because anyone with that ego, if they have $4 billion or you get these three mega companies together, buy $3 billion, or $4 billion, they're going to have other ideas for the organization. | ||
| So you can't buy it and just leave it all the same. | ||
| You buy it and you give Dana a piece. | ||
| So not only do you pay him, but you also give him a piece of the new organization so that he can get even stupid richer. | ||
| You give him a piece, but you're going to have to have someone, like let's say you hire a dude from fucking Apple to come in and run it like a business. | ||
| That's not going to work. | ||
| Granted, let's say that's your idea, though. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, if you're buying it, you're not buying it, like, oh yeah, you just keep doing what you're doing. | ||
| You're buying it because you have some ideas. | ||
| Like, you don't become a Jigellaner because you're fucking using someone else's ideas. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| You must have some ideas, but it's possible that it's an ego purchase, that a bunch of guys got together, wouldn't be awesome if we owned the UFC. And they find, okay, what's the revenue every year? | ||
| They make X amount per year. | ||
| So look, if we put together X amount of billions of dollars, they have Fight Pass that brings in a fuckload of money now. | ||
| Fight Pass has a lot of members, and they're paying, I don't remember how much, I'm a member of Fight Pass, I don't remember how much I pay, but I think it's like nine bucks a month or something like that, does that make sense? | ||
| For sure give to Joe Rogan for free. | ||
| I just pay. | ||
| I pay for a lot of things. | ||
| I don't mind paying. | ||
| Yeah, I hear you. | ||
| I buy my own Onnit supplements. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Well, you're sponsored. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think that if they were smart, they would see that there's a lot of value in it. | ||
| But is there enough value to come up with $4 billion to pay for it? | ||
| I think there's one way to look at this where someone might say, alright, they've been running it like the Gula Boys Club. | ||
| What happens if we did make this a legit league? | ||
| Like you have a commissioner and you have a fighters union. | ||
| What if we ran it like that? | ||
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Oh, you don't want to have a fighters union if you want to make money. | |
| I'm just saying. | ||
| I mean, if you're going to buy it, you have to have a different idea. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You can't just run it as it is. | ||
| Yeah, you can. | ||
| You could. | ||
| Let's go for silly purchase. | ||
| Yeah, you do the exact same thing. | ||
| And maybe with buying it, you can nullify the Reebok deal. | ||
| Someone might just fucking hate Reebok. | ||
| It's like, I'm going to buy it just to get rid of Reebok. | ||
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Damn it. | |
| You just keep doing the same thing. | ||
| It's not a bad idea. | ||
| If I had four billion, I might do that shit. | ||
| I think Reebok might buy it to do that. | ||
| Going like, what have we done? | ||
| Can we just get out? | ||
| Did someone else take this over? | ||
| Everybody's so mad at us. | ||
| So mad. | ||
| We've never had so much hate. | ||
| We haven't seen a kid in years on the streets. | ||
| Well, there was issues with the CrossFit folks, too. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I know one of the dudes, Andy Stump, was involved in that. | ||
| The CrossFit organization. | ||
| Ian Edwards was talking about it. | ||
| He doesn't even know UFC. He's like, who the fuck is wearing Ray Potts? | ||
| You know, I beat this Reebok thing to death. | ||
| I didn't bring it up, but we were talking about Kendrick Lamar. | ||
| I was like, yeah, he's sponsored by... | ||
| I was trying to say something positive about Reebok. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, at least he's sponsored by Reebok with those Reebok classics. | ||
| He just stops everything. | ||
| He goes, who the fuck is wearing Reeboks these days? | ||
| I was dying. | ||
| Dude, he killed me. | ||
| I was dying. | ||
| Ian's hilarious. | ||
| Smart dude. | ||
| He's a very smart dude. | ||
| He's been trying to get me into soccer. | ||
| We tried so hard. | ||
| You've got to wait for FIFA. I mean, for the World Cup to really get into it. | ||
| We tried a few times, man. | ||
| It's pretty close. | ||
| It's still going on, too, if you're going to catch the wave. | ||
| What we're thinking about doing, Jamie, is we're going to do a fight companion. | ||
| But a game companion. | ||
| And have Ian and me come down here. | ||
| I'm going to be. | ||
| For soccer? | ||
| I'll just tell you right now. | ||
| I'm going to be so high. | ||
| I'm barely going to be able to talk. | ||
| For me to watch soccer and really appreciate it. | ||
| I'm a fan, but it is a slow sport, son. | ||
| For a companion, it'd be tough. | ||
| I'm going to be sitting up here with these jumbo sprays. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Just doing some weird shit. | ||
| It's the end of the world. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I took ten of these accidentally. | ||
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Let me see it. | |
| Not even accidentally. | ||
| I did it on purpose. | ||
| A thousand milligrams of THC. Damn. | ||
| No worries. | ||
| No worries. | ||
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You can go deep. | |
| Peppermint spray. | ||
| It's legit. | ||
| Gives you minty breath and puts you on Pluto. | ||
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Yeah, it smells nice. | |
| Does. | ||
| Puts you on Pluto. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| You would need that for a soccer companion. | ||
| Slightly above Pluto. | ||
| That's not a bad idea. | ||
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Yeah, you need it. | |
| You can't really just go au naturel. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| You know, you start freaking out. | ||
| Even I would do that for a soccer companion. | ||
| Would you? | ||
| Yeah, that's a long companion. | ||
| And there's not a lot of excitement. | ||
| You like the edibles that go to sleep, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot of people like those. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| Not edibles anymore. | ||
| The vapor pen to sleep. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Edibles were giving me a hand. | ||
| I almost felt groggy in the morning. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Huh. | |
| Maybe you just went too deep? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| What milligram edibles are you taking? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Not the Joey Diaz shit. | ||
| Nobody takes. | ||
| Literally just one hit from the vapor and I'll sleep like a baby. | ||
| Yeah, I can't do those. | ||
| Because I can't shut my mind off. | ||
| Joey Diaz style ones. | ||
| Jamie doesn't get affected by them. | ||
| Jamie, um... | ||
| Superpowers. | ||
| He's got superpowers. | ||
| He's got some super resistance. | ||
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It's not a good one to have. | |
| What a terrible superpower. | ||
| Edibles, apparently, and this is not uncommon, because Mike Schmidt, who's my guest yesterday, apparently has the same issue. | ||
| He doesn't... | ||
| Edibles do not affect him. | ||
| Mike smokes a lot of weed, so maybe that has something to do with it, but Jamie does not get hot. | ||
| But you tried Tums. | ||
| Someone told you... | ||
| I ate three Tums. | ||
| And then gave it like a half hour to try to set in and then tried a 150 milligram cookie. | ||
| Where'd you get the idea of Tom's? | ||
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Was that on Twitter? | |
| I've never heard of it. | ||
| I've asked lots of people before different potheads, different nutritionists. | ||
| I think I even asked Rhonda Patrick when she came in one time if she had any idea. | ||
| You wasted her time. | ||
| We had five minutes to kill. | ||
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I figured I'd ask. | |
| She was like, what? | ||
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I know. | |
| She might have just said, I have no idea. | ||
| I don't remember what her answer was, but I've never heard the Tums acid thing with the 11-hydroxymetabolite. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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It might have a thing. | |
| I also asked my dad, who's been eating it for a long time, since the 60s, 70s. | ||
| Have your dad been eating high? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Dad's been going deep. | ||
| He said it could be from the 70s. | ||
| The Nixon administration. | ||
| 70s? | ||
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Goddamn. | |
| He's a hippie guy. | ||
| But his sister, who'd be my aunt, also doesn't have any reaction to it. | ||
| What a shitty superpower. | ||
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I don't know if it's a genetic thing. | |
| It could be some weird DNA switch that's not on or off. | ||
| There's no advantage. | ||
| My mom and my stepdad are in Boulder right now. | ||
| And, you know, they're retired. | ||
| They're doing the world tour. | ||
| They're going everywhere. | ||
| They live in Mexico, and they travel all over the place. | ||
| They're living a beautiful life in their retirement. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Anyway, they made my mom wait in the car, because my mom didn't have her license on her. | ||
| She went to a pot store. | ||
| They went to a pot store together. | ||
| In Mexico? | ||
| No, in Boulder. | ||
| In Boulder. | ||
| And my dad went in with my mom, and my mom had to wait in the car. | ||
| They go, bitch, you gotta get out of here. | ||
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Really? | |
| You don't have your ID. What the fuck? | ||
| They're so, they're so, even though it's legal, she's in her fucking 60s. | ||
| And they're like, yeah, no, we don't trust you. | ||
| You gotta run in tight shit, man. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Like, you don't have, you don't have your ID. So you gotta wait in the car, ma'am. | ||
| That is weird at 60. She's a grandma. | ||
| That is weird at 60. I mean, obviously, she's over 21. I've seen them get denied at a liquor store. | ||
| I get pissed. | ||
| That's ridiculous, man. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| I mean, unless you have some crazy disease, it makes you look like your grandma. | ||
| But even then, if you do, you should let them have their pot and their booze anyway. | ||
| Can they get shut down, though? | ||
| Like if someone came and was like, let me see everyone's IDs. | ||
| Boy, I guess. | ||
| I mean, I guess you could. | ||
| But you would have to prove that they weren't the right age. | ||
| You would have to be selling someone underage. | ||
| All my mom would have to do is go to her hotel room and go, hey, fucko. | ||
| I'm 69 years old. | ||
| Also, no cop's going to be like, ma'am, are you sure? | ||
| Yeah, they're going to look at her. | ||
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Sure as fuck not 21. Yeah, she's going to go, whoa, I didn't know. | |
| Have you been in some of those weed shops in Denver? | ||
| It's like the iPad store. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| I'm a big fan of legalization. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| Yeah, obviously. | ||
| Montana, where I was just at, apparently they just, in August, a new draconian measure kicks in. | ||
| And they're trying to put the kibosh, all those fucking ranchers and cowboys out there, they're trying to put the kibosh on the... | ||
| The pot movement out there and what they've done is they put like some heavy restrictions on the amount of people that doctors can prescribe Marijuana to the amount of people that caregivers can prescribe it to or dispense it to like if you're a caregiver you can't just oh like in LA perfect example I have a license I go to a store that might serve fucking a thousand people who knows it might serve more than a thousand you go in there and there's just tons of people all over the place Everybody | ||
| has prescriptions, and it doesn't matter. | ||
| But in Montana, they're making it pretty difficult. | ||
| You better have a legit reason. | ||
| Yeah, when we were staying, we were staying at this hotel called The Element in Bozeman, and right across the street was this pot shop. | ||
| And I was looking, and I was like, perfect, right there. | ||
| And then I'm like, whoa, I wonder what kind of restrictions they have. | ||
| So then I googled it, and I'm like, oh boy, it's about to come down on them. | ||
| But the thing with Montana, didn't Denver set the blueprint? | ||
| People are getting rebates, like tax rebates. | ||
| Denver's like, we have too much money. | ||
| We cannot store it. | ||
| Just give it to the people. | ||
| These ranchers, they don't even read in the newspaper. | ||
| They get smoke signals. | ||
| They're barely paying attention to what's going on in the rest of the free world. | ||
| Goddammit. | ||
| I don't know who's doing it. | ||
| I don't know who's voting. | ||
| There's just a lot of people that have this idea that pot smokers are dumb and lazy and a problem and they don't understand. | ||
| There's a lot of pot smokers like you or like me that work hard as fuck and are just adults. | ||
| And we want to be able to do whatever the fuck we want to do. | ||
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Don't go to Venice Beach because that ain't going to help you cause anything. | |
| One of those doctors, I went in there to talk to one of those doctors, like, this is so fucking shady and everyone in here is a loser. | ||
| Well, Fitzsimmons was talking to me about the last time he was in Denver. | ||
| He's like, there's a few too many kids playing hacky sack on the street. | ||
| Yeah, they have a point there, some, but you can't generalize everybody. | ||
| Well, when you get a place like Denver, the problem is... | ||
| It becomes a magnet to people that are attracted by legalization. | ||
| A lot of those people are, they're listless or drifters. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or they're people that are, they're, they're like, this is going to be the place where I could be me, man. | ||
| Whereas if it was legal everywhere, they would stay where they are. | ||
| Yeah, they just got to chill. | ||
| Yeah, they wouldn't have to go somewhere to get pot. | ||
| So if you, if you're like, you should keep the natural ecosystem of losers in all their natural environments. | ||
| But when you have one place and it's the only place where they can get pot. | ||
| Them bitches are all over Denver and Venice. | ||
| I wish there was a way you could give people an understanding of what motivation and discipline can reward you with. | ||
| Like, I really do. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Understanding? | ||
| You don't think social media, Instagram, and seeing you commentating stuff like that does that for people? | ||
| Um, maybe to some. | ||
| Like in what sense, Joe? | ||
| But I mean, some people that are just like, say, let's put it this way. | ||
| Say if you had a kid, obviously you do have a kid, but say if you had like a 20-year-old and he's just a fucking doper, where he wake and bakes and doesn't get anything done, he's just always like hanging out with his friends and playing video games, and he's just a fucking loser. | ||
| I wish there was a way... | ||
| You could show someone like that. | ||
| I know that you're getting some comfort and satisfaction out of just laying around, doing nothing, eating, getting fat. | ||
| But your life would feel better and richer if you had a goal. | ||
| You chased that goal. | ||
| You accomplished some things. | ||
| You would get this boost of confidence. | ||
| You'd get this boost of self-esteem. | ||
| Whatever it is that you're into doing. | ||
| Maybe you're into drawing comic books. | ||
| Maybe you're into... | ||
| No, but making fucking pottery or sculptures, but find whatever the fuck that is and pursue that instead of doing nothing. | ||
| Like, the people that are doing nothing, those are the real people. | ||
| Look, doing something might be as simple as, like, that Alex Honnold guy. | ||
| He just climbs rocks, but he's a world-class rock climber. | ||
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It's something, though. | |
| It's something. | ||
| And it's also a goal of his, and he's also the best at it, right? | ||
| Yes, yeah. | ||
| But those people who smoke pot all day, those are also the guys who hate on Joe Rogan for being in shape. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Or being disciplined. | ||
| Or get on Kevin Hart's Instagram and hate on him. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Because they don't... | ||
| It's their own insecurities. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| But I would assume they would get motivated by seeing other people do something with their lives. | ||
| Like, that should be motivating, not... | ||
| Yeah, but if you grew up with losers and you're around a bunch of people with shitty attitudes, especially if it's in your household, I was very lucky that both my mom and my stepdad, they're the least hater people I've ever met in my life. | ||
| They're just not haters in any way. | ||
| Like, if someone's doing well, they're always like, wow, look at this guy, or like, wow, look at her, or wow, look at him. | ||
| There was never any hate in my house. | ||
| In terms of other people's success. | ||
| But if you grew up with a dad, and your dad's like, yeah, these fucking, all these rich assholes, this fucking pussy, he thinks she's a badass, and this fucking, you know, there's people that look at other people's success instead of saying, wow, that guy did a lot of work. | ||
| Like, the way, I'm a successful person, but the way I look at Kevin Hart, he exhausts me. | ||
| Or The Rock. | ||
| Those guys exhaust me. | ||
| I'm like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| I feel lazy next to those guys. | ||
| They do so much. | ||
| Those guys are so overbearingly ambitious. | ||
| But some people, they see that and they compare themselves and they don't like it, so they start getting really shitty. | ||
| And it's like a natural feeling to try to chip away at that person. | ||
| Fuck that little Kevin Hart. | ||
| I'll fucking smack him in his mouth. | ||
| I see him. | ||
| First of all, he's not fucking funny. | ||
| And you see the mean, nasty shit that people say to him. | ||
| He went back and forth with some woman on Instagram saying that his girlfriend is only with him for his money. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| It's amazing that he decided to engage. | ||
| He just got done running and he's doing all that run. | ||
| I just bought his shoes, by the way. | ||
| He has his own shoes. | ||
| His own Nike shoes. | ||
| I'm like, I gotta support that. | ||
| I need a new trainer, so I bought them. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Don't even pull up a picture of those, you son of a bitch. | ||
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Look at him. | |
| Jamie got all excited. | ||
| They're dope, though. | ||
|
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They're dope. | |
| Okay, let me see. | ||
| They have his motivational quotes on them. | ||
|
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No! | |
| I was like, I have to support this. | ||
| You got to. | ||
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That's hilarious. | |
| A guy doing his fucking thing. | ||
| But, yeah, he's talking about he's on there, and he's like, the only reason, because it was a picture of his fiancée or something like that. | ||
| It's like, the only reason why she's with you is because you're famous and because of your money. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look at that shit. | ||
| Health is wealth. | ||
| Wait a minute, that's not his saying. | ||
| Yeah, it is, dawg. | ||
| Aspire. | ||
| Work. | ||
| Hustle hard. | ||
| Hustle hard. | ||
| Yeah, all over his shoes. | ||
| You can see my ass on Instagram just doing work and those things. | ||
| They are Kevin Hart shoes. | ||
| It says hustle heart on the tongue. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Inside it says Kevin Hart. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| How can you not appreciate that? | ||
| You gotta appreciate what he's doing. | ||
| I mean, all over the fucking shoes. | ||
| I mean, look, if anybody gets those and it makes them work a little bit harder and they achieve... | ||
| More success because of that? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Good for them. | ||
| Yeah, I just support him. | ||
| It's legit. | ||
| He's doing box jumps and shit. | ||
| Look at him there. | ||
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There you go. | |
| He's creating this huge movement, man. | ||
| Any town he goes into, he does all these 5Ks and 10Ks and all that shit. | ||
| It's pretty cool. | ||
| He's a smart dude, man. | ||
| He's smart. | ||
| He's motivated. | ||
| He's positive. | ||
| You gotta love it. | ||
| I just had a talk with a mutual friend of ours where We were talking about work, and I said, it's all relative, because you look at, and I used you, I used a bunch of guys who are in the same field, and it's like, you look at the amount of work they're doing compared to what you're doing, and it's just, I mean, work, man? | ||
| Like, I think our definition of work is completely different. | ||
| Because I think someone might look at Joe Rogan and say, all right, he sold out this theater, he's doing this UFC thing, but you didn't start there. | ||
| Like, it's overwhelming if you look at the huge picture of the body of work of a guy who's successful, but he started just like you did somewhere, man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But people see that and they just get shut down because it's too much of a hill to climb. | ||
| Yeah, they look at it in terms of like, I will never sell out 50,000 people in Philadelphia like Kevin Hart did. | ||
| So fuck this. | ||
| Kevin didn't start there though. | ||
| Kevin started just like you did. | ||
| Didn't have shit. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He is just a guy that is just on fire with his energy and his power. | ||
| He's just got a lot of passion and drive. | ||
| He just goes. | ||
| And he also... | ||
| He reiterates that work ethic, reiterates it all the time. | ||
| I work hard. | ||
| You know, you go to his Twitter account and it says like, my name's Kevin Hart and I work hard. | ||
| That's like a big part of who he is. | ||
| So I think, you know, some people just, they don't understand that if you just keep doing that, it does pay off. | ||
| And so they just get overwhelmed. | ||
| And again, they start hating. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| It's hating. | ||
| When I was listening to the Joe Schilling podcast, he just came off that loss. | ||
| I text you and I meant to call him, but he was focused on it and he's given that power. | ||
| It's like, Joe, you're doing great shit, man. | ||
| Anyone who's doing successful stuff, even though you lost, you're still one of the baddest men on the planet. | ||
| You mean the baddest men? | ||
| The hecklers and the haters. | ||
| It comes with the territory, man. | ||
| If you weren't doing shit, they're not going to hate on you. | ||
| So giving them power and acknowledging that, you're going to deal with that whether you won or lost, man. | ||
| It comes with the territory. | ||
| Yeah, it's just one of those things. | ||
| Especially because he's this powerful guy, this wild-ass kickboxer, who winds up losing. | ||
| So it's an opportunity for the losers to feel like they're more of a winner than him because they didn't get knocked out. | ||
| Yeah, I meant to reach out, don't I forget. | ||
| He's fine. | ||
| He took it way better than he did the last fight. | ||
| The last fight, he lost the same dude. | ||
| It was a lot tougher for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He gave a great point, though. | ||
| He was saying, like, that's his fighting style. | ||
| He likes to go out on his shield. | ||
| There's guys like that, man. | ||
| Well, he does, man. | ||
| I mean, that is how he fights every single fight. | ||
| He fights like a wild man. | ||
| It's his shit. | ||
| You know, there's a reason why he's one of the best in the world. | ||
| He's an exciting guy to watch. | ||
| I mean, if you're looking for a guy to be the brand name or the figurehead for your organization for Bellator Kickboxing, you want an exciting guy, that's your fucking guy, man. | ||
| He's your guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the thing about Joe is he's not allowed... | ||
| Flashy guy like he's almost I mean, he's a quiet like introverted type of dude. | ||
| You have a conversation with him You know I'm saying yeah in a lot of ways. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He really is. | ||
| He's like a reserved dude. | ||
| So is Kevin Ross Kevin Ross another good example of a great really example of a guy who would be a great like you know I keep saying figurehead, but what would it be? | ||
| Spokesperson or an example of a championship caliber fighter that you would admire. | ||
| And Kevin fights very technical. | ||
| He's a really interesting guy to watch. | ||
| I really like the way he fights. | ||
| I like the way he puts combinations together. | ||
| Very diverse attacks. | ||
| He mixes things up and twists things around on you. | ||
| He switches up his speed of his attack. | ||
| The thing that would have to happen for Bellator, but kickboxing in general, especially Joe Schilling, is they just need to tell us stories where people are invested. | ||
| Because his story's fucking cool, and he's a good guy to get to know. | ||
| But that story's just not getting out there. | ||
| They also have to change the name. | ||
| Bellator. | ||
| Get out of here with that. | ||
| It's not helping. | ||
| Enough. | ||
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It's not helping. | |
| You tried it. | ||
| You tried it forever. | ||
| It's probably holding you back. | ||
| You don't think they're in too deep? | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| What would you call it? | ||
| Spike kickboxing. | ||
| Spike MMA. But then Spike owns your kickboxing. | ||
| Spike owns it. | ||
| Tough shit. | ||
| Spike owns it already. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Bellator's a separate idea. | ||
| Okay, MMA on Spike. | ||
| But then Spike owns it. | ||
| It's just MMA. You're gonna have to do something like the UFC does, right? | ||
| Like Ultimate Fighting Championship, like NFL, NBA. Viacom MMA. No, no. | ||
| I just think the name is too dumb. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| It's a tough sell. | ||
| It's dumb. | ||
| Did you like Strike Force? | ||
| It's better. | ||
| What? | ||
| Strike Force sounds ridiculous. | ||
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Strike Force! | |
| Strike Force Elite. | ||
| Sounds like a jet. | ||
| It's silly as fuck. | ||
| Combo Battalion. | ||
| Yeah, it's a dumb name too. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Yeah, they all suck. | ||
| UFC's the best. | ||
| By far. | ||
| It's the best name. | ||
| Ultimate Fighting Championship Dream. | ||
| Pride was a gangster. | ||
| Pride was an amazing organization. | ||
| But if you walk around with a fist that says Pride on it, people don't know any better. | ||
| I used to have a Pride shirt. | ||
| I'm like, I can't wear that anymore. | ||
| It's not relevant anymore. | ||
| Well, I see people with Pride shirts on. | ||
| I give them fist bumps. | ||
| Because you're balls deep in MMA. Go down West Hollywood with a Pride shirt on. | ||
| Pride never die. | ||
| You know what I love most about Pride? | ||
| I watched it purely as a fan. | ||
| Not just most because they had some of the greatest fights of all time, but also because I got to enjoy it purely as a fan. | ||
| Never called any of those fights. | ||
| Never was there live. | ||
| Wasn't invested, really. | ||
| You're just a super fan of it. | ||
| I just got to enjoy it. | ||
| Just to enjoy it. | ||
| Pure. | ||
| And I think that's why we put on a pedal stool. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's pride. | ||
| You weren't breaking it down. | ||
| When it was coming up, I was just a fucking fan. | ||
| I had a Crow Cop shirt and I was watching that shit. | ||
| Just enjoying the whole aspect. | ||
| Do you remember watching some of them live? | ||
| Where you had to get up at fucking 3 o'clock in the morning? | ||
| Fuck it! | ||
| Because they were from Japan? | ||
| It's so ridiculous, yeah. | ||
| And then I remember being at the one in Vegas, the first time I ever came here, when Fader fought Coleman. | ||
| And I was just blown. | ||
| I had this shitty suit on. | ||
| I don't know why I was wearing a suit. | ||
| I had a shitty suit on, shitty haircut. | ||
| It was just, like, memorized by everyone. | ||
| Mesmerized, not memorized. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I remember I saw Phil Barone and I thought it was fucking Will Smith. | ||
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Right. | |
| And he was a straight dick to me. | ||
| Was he? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I was. | ||
| Yeah, because I was with my buddy Klopp. | ||
| I'm like, oh, let's get a picture of Phil Barone, the New York badass. | ||
| Which is ridiculous. | ||
| I'm all, Phil, can I get a pic? | ||
| He turns around, he is, eh, juice to the gills. | ||
| Like, just fucking, what? | ||
| He's like, you should call me a prick? | ||
| I'm like, no, no, no. | ||
| I was so intimidated. | ||
| I said, pic? | ||
| He goes, yeah, let's do it. | ||
| Took the picture. | ||
| He's not even looking at the camera. | ||
| He's checking out some girl walking by. | ||
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It's just like this shitty picture. | |
| I watched that Dave Manet fight the other day when he knocked out Dave Manet. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| What a combination. | ||
| He like pinned him up against the cage. | ||
| He was unconscious and he's keeping him up with punches. | ||
| With punches. | ||
| He hit him with like four or five ridiculously hard punches in a row while he was out and he's standing up. | ||
| Phil Barone. | ||
| Remember when he knocked out Amar Suluev? | ||
| That badass Russian dude who wound up being like a hitman? | ||
| Oh yeah! | ||
| That guy just died. | ||
| From cancer. | ||
| In the pokey. | ||
| In Russia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there was some rumor that he was some hitman. | ||
| That he had turned to a life of... | ||
| I feel like every Russian guy would hear that story. | ||
| Remember Fedor's brother? | ||
| It was like the tattoo on his back is Grim Reaper because he kills people in Russia. | ||
| Grim Reaper holding a baby. | ||
| The most intense tattoo of all time. | ||
| Yeah, that was the most intense tattoo. | ||
| Grim Reaper holding a baby. | ||
| And he had some Russian mob shit that was tattooed on his chest and his shoulders. | ||
| Didn't he have a tramp stamp too of a Russian mob? | ||
| Yeah, look at that. | ||
| Terrible baby. | ||
| What in the fuck is that? | ||
| Worst artwork ever. | ||
| That's all Russian prison shit. | ||
| Please don't kill me. | ||
| But he had some shit on his front shoulders. | ||
| That guy's in jail now. | ||
| Yeah, he's in prison, right? | ||
| Yeah, he's in jail. | ||
| So those things on his... | ||
| See, those, he covered up the shit that was there to make that. | ||
| Damn, he has that... | ||
| But they have those all marked up, those numbers, those numbers that indicate in that photo, that's like indicating all the different tattoos. | ||
| Go above, far to the left. | ||
| The third one. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| Is that a prison shot? | ||
| See, that shows like what he got tattooed. | ||
| I guess it doesn't. | ||
| That just shows he's got a horse on his chest. | ||
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He's got terrible tattoos. | |
| But he's... | ||
| That dad bod for that photo shoot. | ||
| See, that's what he used to have. | ||
| See those things? | ||
| Those stars? | ||
| Apparently those things have something to do with the Russian mob or organized crime or something. | ||
| So he had them covered over with those designs. | ||
| See, that's the original ones there. | ||
| And now they're those weird designs. | ||
| Must be some serious shit if you had to cover him up where Pride was like, yo man, we gotta cover these up. | ||
| I don't think Pride wanted him to do it. | ||
| I think, you know, he probably just reached a turning point in his life where he's like, okay. | ||
| But you don't get out, though. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, he's in prison, so... | ||
| Dude, what's he in prison for? | ||
| Do we know? | ||
| I believe it's rape. | ||
| But of course. | ||
| But of course. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, who knows? | ||
| You hear about Ryan Jimmel, man? | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| Isn't that horrible? | ||
| What a great guy he was. | ||
| Great guy. | ||
| Apparently got hit by a car, got out to check the damage, and whoever hit him ran him over. | ||
| See, I heard something else. | ||
| Maybe I'm off. | ||
| Do you know Jim? | ||
| I heard he had an altercation inside like a bar. | ||
| Then it continued outside and the dude was in a monster truck, like just a truck lifted. | ||
| And Jim owned him where he was the guy who hit him was in his truck. | ||
| Then he backed up and ran over Ryan and then drove off. | ||
| Maybe that's true. | ||
| I heard, you know, right after it happened, I read about it online. | ||
| Someone, I think I saw on Twitter, RIP Ryan Jimmo, and I was like, no! | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| I couldn't believe it. | ||
| I went, no! | ||
| And then I saw some reports, and I think they probably didn't have all the data. | ||
| Here it goes. | ||
| 34-year-old Jim was involved in a verbal altercation with two suspects before he was hit by the vehicle. | ||
| Two men in the truck, identified as Anthony Getchel and Jordan Wagner, immediately fled the scene soon after, but were eventually arrested less than a week after the incident. | ||
| They were subsequently charged with second-degree murder and accessory after the fact to the murder, respectively. | ||
| Ah, fuck. | ||
| Jim had just proposed to her, and they're on their way home from the movies. | ||
| Truck began tailgating them. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| I think our stories combined make this thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we took a left to let them go by, and now they're both, okay, what's going on? | ||
| First ride at the parking lot, no clue where we were at. | ||
| These guys pulled up real close behind Ryan, almost as if they were going to hit us. | ||
| We both felt nervous. | ||
| Ryan felt the need to do something because we didn't want them following us out of there. | ||
| It was kind of scary. | ||
| Something not right. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| To talk to them. | ||
| They were not nice guys when I came to get back. | ||
| They said something else. | ||
| He went back to talk to them. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| After the conversation, two men hit Joe and sped off. | ||
| Fuck, man. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Yeah, you know what, man? | ||
| People are fucking crazy. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| You just, for whatever reason, you cut somebody off and they're on meth and they just decide to run you over. | ||
| She holds no hatred towards the men that killed Jimmo and is merely trying to remain positive through her moments of grief. | ||
| Good for you, girl. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| Wow, that's crazy. | ||
| What a shitty situation, man. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Boy. | ||
| That's heavy. | ||
| You know, decisions that you make in this life. | ||
| And that's a big one that people make is fucking hostility behind the wheel. | ||
| But I see it all the time. | ||
| I was watching these guys real recently just screaming and yelling at each other in their car. | ||
| I'm like, this could easily end up in death. | ||
| I've got to get the fuck out of here. | ||
| These guys could easily get out and shoot each other or stab each other. | ||
| See, I just assume they have guns. | ||
| Which might be a weird way to look at it, but it's a safe way. | ||
| Like, literally last night when we were driving through Venice, July 4th, The light turned, like, yellow. | ||
| You know, it's busy. | ||
| So, like, I'm in the way of them going the other way. | ||
| And this dude's just like, move out the fucking way, idiot. | ||
| And the people in the car, even my girl's like, what do you want me to do? | ||
| You want me to yell back at them? | ||
| For what? | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Like, who cares? | ||
| Yeah, let them yell. | ||
| Who cares, man? | ||
| You never know. | ||
| I mean, it's not hard to get a gun. | ||
| It's definitely not hard to get a gun here in Los Angeles. | ||
| Plus, if it's a little guy barking, there's a reason why he has that confidence. | ||
| Well, usually they're just stupid. | ||
| True. | ||
| But it's possible that he has a gun, too. | ||
| But all the things like what we were talking about, the difference between being in a community where there's less people and people value people versus being in... | ||
| But then again, Jimmo lives up in Edmonton. | ||
| That's not a crowded place. | ||
| I mean, Edmonton's a city. | ||
| Big city. | ||
| There's a pretty good amount of people up there, but it's not like Los Angeles. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| A lot of people are drunk, and they're doing drugs, and there's all sorts of shit going on that's clouding your judgment. | ||
| It's just sad. | ||
| Yeah, that's a bummer, man. | ||
| Yeah, he was a good guy, too. | ||
| Really good guy. | ||
| Very, very friendly guy. | ||
| Fun fighter to watch, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think Burt Watson was the one who wrote RIP Jim. | ||
| I was looking at Burt because I follow Burt on Twitter. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What's Burt doing just to switch it up? | ||
| He's doing what he used to do with some other organizations. | ||
| Oh, is he? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's still doing that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a guy I miss. | ||
| I miss that dude. | ||
| Burt was the man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he still is the man. | ||
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He's just the man somewhere else other than the UFC. True, but you don't see him anymore. | |
| Stitch is back, right? | ||
| Is he? | ||
| I think so in the UFC, right? | ||
| Am I going crazy? | ||
| I saw him at that Bellator. | ||
| Me and him had a great combo. | ||
| And he said he's back in the UFC? I thought I saw him. | ||
| That would be nice if he was. | ||
| I watched so many fights. | ||
| It could have been Bellator or UFC. Well, whatever reason he was in the UFC was ridiculous. | ||
| He criticized the Reebok deal. | ||
| Just like we just did. | ||
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And I'm out of the UFC. What are you going to do? | |
| What are you going to do? | ||
| I don't have a stake in the game anymore. | ||
| We're out of time here. | ||
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What? | |
| It's 4.30 already. | ||
| Damn, that was fast, son. | ||
| We actually talked about the fights, though. | ||
| We did. | ||
| People didn't think we were going to. | ||
| It started off, we started off a little shaky. | ||
| Well, you had me rattled before with the stuff that you were telling me before we started. | ||
| I started off a little bummed out. | ||
| I'm sorry, man. | ||
| And we ended bummed out. | ||
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Fuck, man! | |
| We ended with Jimmo. | ||
| Well, rest in peace, Ryan Jimmo. | ||
| You were a great man. | ||
| Love you, buddy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Life goes on. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| I was going to promote a live show. | ||
| You just can't. | ||
| No, do it. | ||
| Promote it. | ||
| When is it? | ||
| Fire and the Kid live in Phoenix, Arizona. | ||
| You going to get Brian Callen's show up for this? | ||
| July 29th and 30th. | ||
| Brian might be there. | ||
| He's gonna be there. | ||
| He'll be there. | ||
| I hear he's gonna be there. | ||
| I'll slap him. | ||
| Are you guys doing Phoenix Live? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| LA Live, whatever it is? | ||
| Yeah, Phoenix Live. | ||
| That's a great fucking club. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I'm excited for it, man. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| One show on the 29th, one show on the 30th. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| tfatk.com. | ||
| Glorious. | ||
| Tomorrow night, I'm at the Ice House with Greg Fitzsimmons, Tony Hinchcliffe, Duncan Trussell and Ian Edwards. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Damn! | ||
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Whoa! | |
| And then Friday night, I'm at the Ka Theater at the MGM with Ian Edwards and Joey. | ||
| Motherfucking Diaz. | ||
| And we'll be back tomorrow with Milo Yiannopoulos. | ||
| So until then, go fuck yourself. |
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