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June 19, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - June 18, 2016 - Part 1
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brendan schaub
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bryan callen
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eddie bravo
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joe rogan
02:07:05
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joey diaz
06:44
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andy stumpf
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jamie vernon
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joe rogan
Yeah!
We're live, ladies and gentlemen.
Eddie Bravo, fresh out of fucking surgeries here.
bryan callen
Looking good.
joe rogan
Gangster as fuck.
Very few people would do that.
I'd be in bed, my feet up, pilled out of my mind.
eddie bravo
It was just spine surgery.
unidentified
It's no big deal.
joe rogan
Yeah, no big deal.
Spine.
Dude got a disc replacement, titanium disc.
Incredible.
Brian Callen, of course, is here.
Popping wine as we speak.
That sound was organic.
It wasn't orchestrated, although if Brian Callen had a character and his opening in a sitcom was like how Kramer slides in, Brian would have a nice bottle of wine and he would pop it and then he would explain the vineyard and what part of France...
It grows.
bryan callen
Well, it's Barolo.
This is Barolo from Italy.
unidentified
Oh, Italy.
bryan callen
Castellero.
unidentified
Castellero.
Tell me.
eddie bravo
Tell me more.
bryan callen
But because it's so good, you know, and Giancarlo Fenocchio is my favorite.
unidentified
Is that the Palo one?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
No, I forgot to bring him.
I realized as I was pulling into the driveway.
But Brendan Motherfucker Shop is here with a powerful Young Jamie t-shirt fresh out of the box.
unidentified
This thing is hot.
joe rogan
Young Jamie, where does a motherfucker get a Y-N-G-J-M-E, like Run DMC Young Jamie shirt?
You can find one at youngjame.com.
Youngjamie.com, bitches!
People are going to get mad at you.
unidentified
He fucking sold out!
joe rogan
Jamie used to be one of us.
He sold out.
Now Jamie's just sitting for the money.
brendan schaub
Youngjamie.com.
joe rogan
Folks, you don't have to buy it, but it is a dope shirt.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
What's wrong with you?
How could you not?
How could you not love it?
brendan schaub
I have to throw it on.
I had a nice stylish shirt.
I thought, you know what?
unidentified
I appreciate it.
joe rogan
He's got his own shirt on, which is a strong move.
That's like a bold, that's almost a rapper.
unidentified
I'm not on camera.
joe rogan
But it's almost a rapper move.
unidentified
With his name on it?
Yeah, you got a shirt with your name on it.
joe rogan
That is one thing a stand-up comic cannot pull off.
You cannot walk around with a shirt with your own face on it.
brendan schaub
That's tough.
joe rogan
That literally cannot be done.
eddie bravo
Yeah, and jujitsu, it's a weird thing, too.
There was one shirt that was an Eddie Bravo scramble shirt.
I could never wear it.
I can't wear it.
I can wear a tenth plan of shit all day.
But something that says Eddie Bravo jujitsu or something, I don't know.
bryan callen
I'd like to get jujitsu shirts made with my name.
It just says, he used to be a blue belt.
joe rogan
I've definitely worn JRE shirts before, but it was almost like nobody knew what the fuck it meant.
brendan schaub
It's also a brand.
It's not like your name.
joe rogan
It's a brand, sort of.
brendan schaub
It doesn't say Joe Rogan on it.
bryan callen
You can get away with it.
I feel like when you get to a certain amount of fame, you don't see anyone doing it.
You can do it.
brendan schaub
I wore a Finally Kids shirt for some picture, and Whitney Cummins went, don't ever, ever.
Post a picture of you wearing your own shirt again.
She goes, celebrities don't do that.
joe rogan
You are the fighter and the kid.
You can't.
It's weird.
brendan schaub
Even to promote it?
joe rogan
You can't be on America's Got Talent and wear an America's Got Talent t-shirt.
brendan schaub
If I own America's Got Talent, I'm going to wear America's Got Talent.
joe rogan
If you were the host of Star Search and you had a Star Search shirt everywhere, you would go to clothes with a Star Search shirt.
bryan callen
What if Johnny Depp wore a shirt that said, Johnny Depp.
Or just Johnny Depp.
brendan schaub
Kanye West, that's still gay.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's his design.
That's different.
If I designed something cool, I'd wear it.
Dude, I think Kanye West is quite silly in a lot of ways, but his fucking sneakers look dope.
They're badass.
He's a great designer.
He's got a good mind for things.
brendan schaub
He sets the trend for fashion.
joe rogan
He's an interesting cat.
In a lot of ways.
He's batshit crazy.
Sure, for sure.
But who the fuck isn't?
You are too, bitch.
brendan schaub
Oh, hell yeah.
joe rogan
I am as well.
Everybody in his room is crazy.
bryan callen
He's also prolific.
I bought all his music because I told you I was hating on him and I went home.
I have to educate you.
Yeah, I listened to everything.
I literally bought all his music and he's so prolific, man.
I don't know.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker, for sure.
unidentified
Who's this?
joe rogan
No doubt about it.
Kanye West.
But you know who fucking makes me feel lazy as shit?
Is Kevin Hart.
Him and The Rock.
The two of them together.
Will they just take it down a notch?
brendan schaub
Can I relax?
You can follow him on Instagram.
Dude, Kevin Hart's running 10Ks.
He's sponsored by Nike.
bryan callen
He's got his own shoe.
joe rogan
Oh, speaking of someone who makes me feel lazy, my friend Cameron Haynes is in a 24-hour race right now.
He texted me seven hours in.
He had already ran 50 miles.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
He said, but he's hurting and he's going to keep hammering.
So at that pace, just stop and think about this.
He's not going to be able to keep up that pace because that pace is insane.
Seven hours for 50 miles.
That's 100 miles in 14 hours.
Nobody does that.
It's usually like 24 hours.
He did 106 last time in 24 hours and he came in, I want to say like fifth place.
bryan callen
That's ridiculous.
joe rogan
There was a woman in front of him.
There was a woman who was just a monster.
unidentified
What's the average mile is that?
joe rogan
You're rolling.
Yeah, you're rolling.
Cam ran 106 miles, I believe.
And I think the guy who won, I do not remember his name, but I believe he was north of 113. He might even ran 114. What was his build like?
bryan callen
Was he skinny or was he like a thick?
joe rogan
Like a fucking gazelle.
Well, Cam was too big at the time.
Cam was up to like 180. He lifts a lot of weights and he was up to like 180. That's huge.
For a guy who runs a hundred, it's real crazy, but he runs a half a marathon literally every day because he's preparing for the Bigfoot 200 in August.
So this hundred-mile race that he's doing, his 24-hour race, is just to prepare him for a 200-mile race in August.
Like, dude, Fucking relax.
brendan schaub
I can't follow him on Instagram.
I can't follow him on Instagram.
joe rogan
And he's got a full-time job.
brendan schaub
Doing what?
joe rogan
Department of Water and Power in Oregon.
unidentified
Fucking relax, man.
joe rogan
Full-time job.
brendan schaub
What are you trying to do?
joe rogan
Most successful bowhunter in the world.
Runs marathons.
brendan schaub
He's an X-Man.
joe rogan
What does he eat?
He beat Lance Armstrong in the Boston Marathon.
unidentified
What?
Is this true?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Not on a bike, though.
joe rogan
Didn't matter.
Running?
He's one of the greatest endurance athletes the world's ever known?
bryan callen
But what does he do for maintenance?
How does he keep his body...
joe rogan
He's a savage!
He's 100% savage.
unidentified
Jesus.
brendan schaub
You guys are not the same, Brian.
joe rogan
All he does is eat elk.
No, not the same.
He eats elk and bear, and he runs, and he lifts, and he works an eight-hour-a-day job.
bryan callen
He lives on elk.
joe rogan
I'm tired.
I'm tired.
bryan callen
Me, too.
joe rogan
I'm exhausted.
Just looking at his Facebook feed.
I'm exhausted.
unidentified
God.
bryan callen
I gotta start upping my archery running game.
joe rogan
Speaking of exhausted, let's talk about the first fight.
This fight is gonna be fucking badass.
These chicks are down.
Valerie Letourneau.
So this is a flyweight fight.
This is the first, I think, is this the first UFC flyweight fight?
Is that what it is?
What is SW? Strawweight.
She's the number five strawweight contender, but this is not a strawweight fight.
This is a flyweight fight.
I think, if I'm not, I could totally be wrong and the fucking nerds are going crazy right now.
joey diaz
It's the second, you piece of shit!
joe rogan
There was an undercard fight in fucking Poland!
I love you guys.
Relax.
Everybody relax.
bryan callen
Everybody calm down.
brendan schaub
She's nervous as shit.
joe rogan
That's a beautiful name.
bryan callen
I think she's cute.
joe rogan
Show us the card, Jamie, on the other screen, so we can see what fights there are.
brendan schaub
It's a fun card, for sure.
bryan callen
I think she's cute, too.
unidentified
This is the first one, yeah.
brendan schaub
Brian, you think every girl is cool?
bryan callen
Well, I'm old.
I'm old, so any girl in her 20s is adorable.
brendan schaub
You're like the creepy guy from Family Guy.
bryan callen
Like Dom Herrera said, he's like, she could have a goat head.
She's in her 20s.
joe rogan
So it's Calderwood and Letourneau.
And Letourneau just had a fucking amazing fight with Johanna Jacek.
bryan callen
Really?
joe rogan
That was a five-round war in Australia.
She went to war, dude, for five rounds with this beast of a Muay Thai fighter.
Super beast.
And she lost the fight, but she more than held her own.
bryan callen
Johanna...
The champion.
joe rogan
Yes!
Wow!
Valerie Letourneau, she got down at 125, which I think was too much of a struggle for her.
115. Excuse me, yes, thank you.
And now she's at 125. This is her first fight at 125. But I believe she's fought at 135, too.
brendan schaub
Would you say Ioana's the best pound-for-pound female fighter?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
She's hands down, right?
joe rogan
She's nasty, dude.
She's nasty.
brendan schaub
She scares me.
joe rogan
Her striking is so clean.
But...
I gotta say, her fight with Claudia Gaudet was super, super close, man.
It was real close.
brendan schaub
Really close.
joe rogan
She dropped her, though, with a big fucking uppercut.
brendan schaub
A little while ago, though.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
brendan schaub
They both improved.
Should be interesting.
joe rogan
I think so, too.
bryan callen
When are they fighting again?
brendan schaub
Claudia is a straight...
joe rogan
200. Dying piece.
brendan schaub
I didn't realize it.
So I started watching Ultimate Fighter.
She's very pretty.
joe rogan
She's jacked, too.
brendan schaub
She's so strong.
She looks like Thiago Alves a little bit.
joe rogan
Her jiu-jitsu is nasty, man.
Her top pressure.
She's very tough to escape from.
Really strong, technical jiu-jitsu.
And her kickboxing, not bad either, man.
brendan schaub
No, she's pretty well-rounded.
joe rogan
Very well-rounded.
brendan schaub
If anyone's going to beat Ioana, it's her.
If you watch Ultimate Fighter, I thought she came off better than Ioana.
She won more fans.
joe rogan
You know, they had a full-on film.
They were throwing head kicks at each other and everything.
brendan schaub
Who throws head kicks in a hallway?
joe rogan
Meanwhile, Calderwood is about to get caught in this Valerie LeTerno arm bar.
Her arm's not in a good position.
Her left arm's not in a good position.
She's just kind of holding on there.
Big right hand.
Calderwood's nasty, man.
She fights hard.
Real aggressive.
Oh, Valerie goes for it again, but this time not even close.
Egebrade, care to comment on the control of the posture?
It's old school style.
eddie bravo
You know, doing jujitsu against that fence, it's tough.
You're getting squashed and jujitsu practitioners generally aren't used to that.
joe rogan
Yeah, you really kind of have to fight or train with one of those, huh?
eddie bravo
Yeah, you got to learn how to use the fence to your benefit.
And that takes a lot of practice.
I'm not that good at that.
joe rogan
You know, man, I was really surprised when we used to roll at Legends, how much it hurts.
brendan schaub
The cage?
joe rogan
Yeah, the first thing that surprised me...
No, your head.
brendan schaub
The worst.
joe rogan
Like, when your head gets banged into it, and your head gets pushed into it, it fucking hurts, man.
bryan callen
It doesn't give that much up.
brendan schaub
Even your fingers, man.
joe rogan
It doesn't feel good at all.
brendan schaub
It's not fun if they rub up against you.
joe rogan
No, I mean, if you're going to do, like, straight jiu-jitsu and you just want to do jiu-jitsu and never get involved in MMA, you really should have, like, a padded wall.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck that cage.
But the cage looks good if someone's going to sign up.
Walk in there.
Do you want to be like Brendan Chum?
Do you want to be a cage fighter?
unidentified
Yeah, bro.
joe rogan
We got a cage.
brendan schaub
Full cage.
Full cage.
joe rogan
Hey, man.
Full MMA. Training at a place with a full cage, bro.
It's true.
I'm serious.
As a fucking total poser, I used to like to walk into that cage.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh, no!
Calderwood!
bryan callen
Oh, no!
All over!
joe rogan
Oh, Letourneau is hurting!
brendan schaub
You know you're a bad bitch if you got a shaved head.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
She's scrambling!
eddie bravo
They could have easily stopped that.
bryan callen
Oh, my God, easily.
joe rogan
Letourneau is tough!
eddie bravo
Wow!
Thank God they didn't, see?
bryan callen
Wow!
eddie bravo
Thank God they didn't!
bryan callen
She got that spinning elbow right in the old jaw.
eddie bravo
She recovered.
brendan schaub
Look, she missed it looking at the full card.
joe rogan
Dude, she got tagged again.
Valerie Letourneau is so tough, man.
brendan schaub
They're in bows.
joe rogan
You know, she has a good striking background.
I think she's just used to getting hit.
bryan callen
Man.
joe rogan
But she's just tough, too, man.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Calderwood with the big elbow.
Oh, we should tell you guys, it's 1-13.
If you want to sync up, it's 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5. That's probably the best way to do it, right?
For sure.
First round, Joanna Calderwood and Valerie Letourneau.
brendan schaub
It's a good card though, man.
joe rogan
It is a very good card.
brendan schaub
Next fight's fun.
joe rogan
Did you see the Tamina McCrory fight earlier?
eddie bravo
What happened?
brendan schaub
Which one?
bryan callen
The turn was tough, dude.
Did you see that?
joe rogan
Tamden got starched with one straight left hand.
brendan schaub
Damn, I didn't see it.
I saw homeboy Joe Soto.
Damn, I see a little Damian Maia.
joe rogan
And mad pressure, too.
brendan schaub
He was losing that fight.
joe rogan
He was losing that fight, but they weren't giving him enough credit for the pressure that he was putting on Chris.
brendan schaub
Because he was getting tagged, I think.
He was getting lit up.
I thought he was getting lit up.
joe rogan
I thought he was definitely getting hit.
I thought the second round he won.
So he won the second round and he was winning the third round.
bryan callen
Look at this fight.
joe rogan
When Kenny was saying that he was down two rounds to one, I was like, man, I don't see how he could have lost the second.
This girl is taking shots.
brendan schaub
And then third was up in the air until he took him down.
It was night-night.
joe rogan
See, what I was seeing, though, was a lot of pressure.
I mean, Chris was definitely hitting him, but he didn't have him hurt at any point.
And Soto was constantly moving forward and constantly pressuring him.
bryan callen
Bro, what a fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, very good fight.
And then in the third, Soto started to tag him.
Soto started to really put that pressure on him.
And look, it's fucking hard as hell.
No one has to tell you to back up while you're striking.
Backing up and striking is so much harder.
bryan callen
What do you mean?
joe rogan
You never move backwards.
You never move backwards in real life.
You run forward.
So in order to run backwards all the time like that, it's exhausting.
It's way harder to move backwards.
brendan schaub
That's why Thompson's so special.
joe rogan
Oh, and Lyoto.
When Lyoto was at his best, you couldn't even get near him.
But that's just, it's a thing that you could get good at.
Muhammad Ali used to run miles backwards.
brendan schaub
It's over years and years.
Like, Wanderboy's been doing it since he was a kid.
bryan callen
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta do it.
You gotta do it.
It's like, it's a really important part of footwork.
The backing up thing can't be exhausting to you.
Because the moving forward thing is easy for everybody.
So if a guy is just sort of walking you down, you can't hurt him.
tj kirk
His walking forward is relaxed and easy.
brendan schaub
Because it's natural?
joe rogan
Yeah, especially if he has good blocking.
But you're constantly springing your body backwards, springing your body backwards, looking for openings.
It's exhausting.
It takes like 30% more energy.
bryan callen
Watch this.
Watch this.
This is crazy.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a spinning back fist!
unidentified
Jesus, it's perfect!
bryan callen
She's out!
joe rogan
She's hurting, for sure.
She definitely wasn't out.
brendan schaub
But Joe, think about it.
The guys that can grow backwards, successful, are some of the best.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
brendan schaub
They're the worst to deal with.
joe rogan
Dude, they're hard to deal with.
brendan schaub
Because you can't mimic it really in training.
joe rogan
One of the things interesting about this fight tonight is that Rory brought in one of the best guys in the world at it.
He brought in Raymond Daniels.
Raymond Daniels, that badass karate guy from Glory, who throws those 360 turning sidekicks and hits dudes in the face with them.
He's wild, man.
His kicking is insane.
So Rory's going to be working with a guy who can kick arguably as good as Wonderboy, or in the neighborhood at least.
brendan schaub
I would say better at his level, especially professionally.
joe rogan
As a kickboxer, it's good to make that argument.
unidentified
It's also different though, isn't it?
joe rogan
Yeah, well the thing is, Wonderboy as a kickboxer was absolutely perfect.
brendan schaub
57-0, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and Raymond's lost some tough fights.
But did Raymond lose to guys like Valtellini?
Exactly.
And did he lose to those guys because they were just so world class?
brendan schaub
Tougher competition.
joe rogan
And Wonderboy never faced someone like that?
Is that the case?
brendan schaub
I think so.
bryan callen
Oh, damn!
She's tagging her!
Laterno's so tough.
joe rogan
We're talking so much shit through this awesome fight.
bryan callen
Oh, it's such a good fight.
Watch Laterno.
brendan schaub
She's just...
It's amazing.
joe rogan
It is a very good fight, though.
bryan callen
Damn, it's a good fight.
And she's...
Oh!
Getting caught.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
bryan callen
Laterno's just throwing and connecting every time.
joe rogan
Well, Letourneau, like, you see her striking.
It's real technical, man.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that nice uppercut there.
bryan callen
Great uppercut.
joe rogan
You saw that in the Yon Jacek fight.
That's the only way you can survive striking with Yon Jacek.
But I do have to say, Joanna broke her hand in that fight.
brendan schaub
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So that could have had a big factor.
By the way, still throwing bombs with it.
brendan schaub
Still throwing bombs.
joe rogan
Throwing bombs with a broken hand.
brendan schaub
They say she would go into Golden Glory and just do work against dudes.
joe rogan
Oh, I can imagine.
brendan schaub
She's just a monster.
joe rogan
I can imagine.
I could imagine.
brendan schaub
They get intimidating as being her size.
Going to Golden Glory.
joe rogan
Super impressed with her.
bryan callen
What is Vaterno's background?
Is she a striker first, too?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, a striker.
She's an ATT girl.
She trains at American Top Team, which she can't have on her shorts.
unidentified
Oh, look at that.
joe rogan
Isn't that weird?
Even in boxing, you'd have Kronk on your shorts.
They should have their fucking gym on their shorts.
brendan schaub
You should be able to have your gym on your shorts.
joe rogan
On top of Reebok, you should definitely have your gym on your shorts.
Like, out of respect, right?
brendan schaub
I agree.
unidentified
Why don't more fighters practice running backwards?
brendan schaub
It's a good question.
joe rogan
It's hard.
eddie bravo
Nobody does that.
This is the first time I've ever heard of this.
joe rogan
Well, Eddie, you know how a lot of dudes don't like to be on the bottom?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Same thing.
People don't want to do things that they don't like to do in training.
And especially running backwards, it's not fun.
brendan schaub
It's also going to take a while to get good.
eddie bravo
But it seems like a good workout thing.
Just run backwards just for your cardio.
joe rogan
I realized real early in doing Taekwondo how exhausting it is to try to move backwards.
Because I used to spar with this kid who was a really good boxer and he used to beat my ass.
But I was always moving backwards from him.
I was always moving backwards and I would get exhausted.
I was like, why am I getting so fucking tired?
And then after a while, I realized, like, it's got to be connected not just to his pressure, but also the fact that I'm moving backwards so much.
It's not just a physical thing.
And then as I get better at boxing, I definitely found that that was the case.
brendan schaub
And it's a lot more energy.
Like when I move forward, if I move forward and you're the counter puncher and you're going backwards, you're taking way more steps than I am moving forward.
So you're doing way more work.
unidentified
But if Muhammad Ali was doing it, you'd think that everybody would do it, right?
joe rogan
Not everyone's athleticism.
Oh, the running backwards thing, man?
There's a lot of coaches.
A lot of coaches work on that stuff now.
They even do it on treadmills.
They do sprints on treadmills running backwards.
brendan schaub
It's also less wear and tear on your knees.
joe rogan
Is it really?
brendan schaub
Going backwards, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I guess you kind of have to go on the balls of your foot running backwards.
Yeah, you can't go heel.
You'll fucking go flipping backwards.
eddie bravo
Football players practice running backwards.
joe rogan
Yeah, definitely.
eddie bravo
Cornerbacks.
brendan schaub
Certain positions, yeah.
joe rogan
I want to ask you this question before I forget it.
You trained at Jay Glazer's place, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, I was watching Instagram of that today.
brendan schaub
That joint.
joe rogan
Now, did Jay Glazer just set that up all himself?
brendan schaub
I mean, he's definitely the captain of that ship, yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, what a fucking huge move that is for him.
That's a great facility.
brendan schaub
Good spot, too, right off Sunset there, above Pink Taco.
joe rogan
The reason I brought it up, they had these football players doing these exact same drills.
They were running forwards and backwards and doing all this crazy sprinting shit where it's all like, you know, the coach will tell you, ready, backwards, go, forward, backwards.
And they're working all this stuff out.
brendan schaub
All reaction stuff.
unidentified
Oh, look at this.
joe rogan
I'm like, this is heavy-duty shit.
bryan callen
Well, you guys obviously didn't see that there's a trail for Tarzan.
brendan schaub
Almost all other sports practice going backwards.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Well, now that I think of it.
joe rogan
A lot of fighters do.
Obviously, Conor does.
Conor's really good at moving backwards and moving forwards.
bryan callen
Got some leg kicking going on.
joe rogan
But there's no doubt, I think, as we both agree.
Moving backwards costs more energy.
brendan schaub
Connor fired that movement coach, huh?
joe rogan
Did he?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he was like, looking back on it, I think I need to be more in the gym instead of climbing fucking logs.
joe rogan
You sure he's not still working with that guy?
bryan callen
Pretty sure.
brendan schaub
From what I heard, pretty sure he's like, you know what, I'm good on climbing trees and shit.
I should probably work on my jiu-jitsu defense.
joe rogan
The other guy is the log guy.
Erwin McCore?
brendan schaub
That's all the same shit.
Hula hoops and balls.
joe rogan
Okay, I disagree.
bryan callen
That's unfair to the movement movement.
joe rogan
There's a lot of merit in the movement movement.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying the guy who was the head of this movement movement was like, I'm good.
I get some shit to folks like.
joe rogan
Here's why I think there's some merit to it.
Two reasons.
One, break dancers.
One of the things in jujitsu, and Eddie Bravo will attest to this, is we had a bunch of break dancers start training, and Eddie was like the first to comment on it.
Like how crazy strong they are in a weird way.
They can move their body so well.
eddie bravo
They all get good at jujitsu really quick.
All of them.
It wasn't just one or two of them.
They all got good at jujitsu.
And I got a couple more since.
It makes sense.
They come in and they're really good right away.
joe rogan
They get it.
brendan schaub
Well, their motor skills, too, with that movement.
joe rogan
Dude, they're so fucking strong.
eddie bravo
They're used to asking so much shit from their bodies.
brendan schaub
And memorizing stuff, too.
eddie bravo
So when they look at, oh, pass the guard?
Dude, I spin on my head in slow motion, dude.
brendan schaub
For sure, it stands.
bryan callen
I do one-handed handstands.
joe rogan
Yeah, those guys are ridiculous.
eddie bravo
Hold an arm like this, you guys are having trouble with this.
bryan callen
Well, they're doing backflips, they're doing one-handed handstands, they're jumping on one hand.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen his black belt, Richie Martinez?
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
Tell them.
eddie bravo
And Gio.
Gio Martinez and Richie Martinez, brothers that have been breakdancing their whole lives.
joe rogan
Tell them.
Tell them, Eddie.
Tell them how ridiculous these two are.
brendan schaub
As an instructor, no instructor wants to give black belts early.
eddie bravo
Nobody does.
bryan callen
Yeah.
eddie bravo
It isn't something that you want to do because that's a reflection on you.
bryan callen
Yes.
eddie bravo
And if you give it too early and they get crushed, you look bats.
You're like, I'm not going to give you a black belt until I can make sure that you don't embarrass me.
You know what I mean?
bryan callen
Right.
eddie bravo
It's the last thing you want to do.
joe rogan
We're back on the fight here real quick because there was some sort of a change.
Will you explain what happened, Jamie?
We had to change channels?
We changed channels from Fox Sports 2 to Fox Sports 1. Why'd we do that?
unidentified
It was a NASCAR race.
joe rogan
Oh, it just took over?
So Fox changed it in mid-fight?
bryan callen
Dude, this is a brawl.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
That's not confusing.
joe rogan
What?
You're fired, Jetson!
bryan callen
You're fired!
joe rogan
Who the fuck changes a fight like this in mid-fight?
brendan schaub
That just happened.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
People are going to miss this.
They're going to not go to Fox Sports 1, and they're going to miss this.
They go to take a piss, they come back, or they're talking like I was.
brendan schaub
Missed it.
joe rogan
I was like, what the fuck?
Thank you, Jamie, for being so honorable.
brendan schaub
If you don't have a young Jamie living with you, you're screwed.
Thank you, Jamie.
bryan callen
Jamie's something else.
joe rogan
Anyway.
bryan callen
Anyway, I gotta step up my dance game.
joe rogan
I gotta step up my dance game.
brendan schaub
These movement coaches aren't breakdancing.
joe rogan
But dude, these guys, like, Ito Portal, that guy.
eddie bravo
It's a super extreme movement.
If movement got extreme, it would be what these guys are doing to music.
This is super crazy, like, the ultimate of that movement shit that you could possibly do.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I wish I could breakdancing.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
She got nailed!
unidentified
Oh!
No!
brendan schaub
Where'd she kick her in the titty?
joe rogan
Front kick to the body!
brendan schaub
She kick her in the titty?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Right in the solar plexus!
bryan callen
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Goddamn, Letourneau's tough!
bryan callen
She's so tough!
joe rogan
Oh my god, and now she's firing these and she gets cracked with an elbow!
unidentified
God, she's tough!
joe rogan
Calderwood is a beast!
bryan callen
Yeah, but so is Letourneau, man!
joe rogan
They both are!
Oh my god!
brendan schaub
That looked like it hurt!
joe rogan
Ooh, shovel hook!
unidentified
Ow!
Oh!
Oh!
joe rogan
Caught her!
brendan schaub
Look at this!
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
She kicked her out of the titty!
unidentified
That's the titty!
Right in the titty!
What happened?
bryan callen
You're not allowed to hit there?
You're not allowed to kick there?
joe rogan
What happened?
brendan schaub
I guess you're not allowed to kick there in the titty.
joe rogan
No, you definitely can.
unidentified
No, it's like the nuts.
No way!
joe rogan
No, that can't be true!
That can't be true!
unidentified
Take your five, girl!
joe rogan
That can't be true!
brendan schaub
You gotta say the tits can't be kicking me there, man.
joe rogan
It's like baseball.
brendan schaub
It's unspoken rule.
joe rogan
This is a very good fight a minute.
That's not true, is it?
unidentified
It's like baseball.
It's unspoken rule.
bryan callen
No hitting in the glands, you fucks.
brendan schaub
You can't kick Misha Tate in that titty.
bryan callen
Nope.
unidentified
Those perfect titties.
brendan schaub
You can't do it.
eddie bravo
What would happen if you punted the...
brendan schaub
Those are really big.
joe rogan
They're really nice.
eddie bravo
Would they show the replay?
Brandon, would they show the replay?
If a girl kicked another girl right in the ground really hard, would they show the replay?
They show it with guys.
They do it in slow motion.
Super slow-mo.
unidentified
Boom, bitch!
God damn!
joe rogan
That girl is the vicious!
unidentified
That was a crazy ending.
Have you ever seen a girl attack a set of titties like that?
joe rogan
Oh my god, Calderwood is a beast.
That wasn't a titty shot, it was a body shot.
I think she broke her rib with that one shot earlier.
brendan schaub
Bro, I need the replay.
joe rogan
Or somewhere in that fight she might have broke her rib.
bryan callen
Good god, that was a beast of a fight!
brendan schaub
Good lord.
unidentified
You know when she turned her back, she went relentless, spinning his elbow?
joe rogan
This is the day where people online go, hey, you fucks, occasionally watch the fight.
bryan callen
This was crazy.
This is a crazy fight.
brendan schaub
My bad.
bryan callen
Oh my god.
She's so tough, that girl.
She's a beast.
brendan schaub
No, let me see this fucking Spartan kick to the tit.
bryan callen
Oh, this was tough.
joe rogan
Boom!
brendan schaub
That's right in the stomach.
joe rogan
That's the second time she did that too.
She comes in with a knee.
bryan callen
She's got to stop this.
joe rogan
And she comes in with a knee to the thigh.
That's her opening move.
That's beautiful.
I see the first one.
But check this out.
Run knee to the thigh.
unidentified
Why would she turn around like that?
joe rogan
She's jacked.
I mean, you mean Valerie?
You can't turn her around like that.
She's hurt bad.
brendan schaub
Drop to the ground.
Can't turn your back.
joe rogan
Well, she got hurt with a bad shot to the body earlier in that round.
I think she was really hurt.
bryan callen
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
She's so fucking tough.
I think she was really, really hurt to take it like that.
There's nothing she can do about that.
bryan callen
She's tough.
My God, she's tough.
joe rogan
That is the first time I've ever seen someone run at someone who's hurt and open with a knee to the thigh.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and then a spinning back fist.
joe rogan
That girl has got a complete Muay Thai game, man.
That's a complete game.
Like, she's thinking in all these different angles.
brendan schaub
It's a fun fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, she doesn't have a limited approach.
brendan schaub
Bro, speaking of fun fights...
Anthony Rumble Johnson out against Glover.
joe rogan
What happened?
brendan schaub
I don't fucking know.
Ruined my day.
joe rogan
What happened?
brendan schaub
No idea.
joe rogan
Injury?
brendan schaub
Do you know, Jamie?
Injury for sure.
He pulled out.
It's a little far out to pull out though, huh?
joe rogan
They can't.
brendan schaub
Do you like break a leg or some shit?
joe rogan
You must have something really wrong.
unidentified
Fuck!
brendan schaub
Pull out this early is nuts, right?
joe rogan
Goddamn, I wanted to see that fight.
brendan schaub
It's my number one fight this year for me.
joe rogan
Do they make Gustafson versus Glover?
brendan schaub
They just gave Gustafson some bullshit, didn't they?
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying, dawg.
Let's get it moving.
brendan schaub
Let's get this rolling.
joe rogan
Let's get back to an oh shit fight.
Send out that bats in the sun in Sweden.
bryan callen
What about Gustafson?
He's very much in the game.
He's been real quiet.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they just announced a fight.
joe rogan
He's one of the best.
He's right up there.
Look, he went five hard rounds of Jon Jones, five hard rounds of DC. He's number three in the world for sure.
He lost to Rumble, but guess what?
Everybody who Rumble hits like that goes night-night.
bryan callen
But did you see that they played it over and over?
He did get headbutt, too, by accident.
joe rogan
It looks like it.
It looks like it.
It's hard to see.
I've looked at it and thought that it didn't look like a headbutt.
Then I've looked at it and I said the punch landed first for sure.
But it looked like he definitely collided.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but it's tough.
If Anthony touches anyone like that, though.
I think if they fight ten times, you're getting a different result each time.
joe rogan
Maybe there's a good breakdown of it in slow-mo, but it was hard to see if the right hand landed first or the head butt landed first.
bryan callen
We broke it down a little bit before.
joe rogan
What did we think?
brendan schaub
I thought it was head butt, but the more we played it, I almost started siding with you.
I always thought it was a head butt.
joe rogan
I got so high once, I watched the Bigfoot footage, I thought it was real.
I was so high.
unidentified
I was like, maybe I've been making fun of this all the time.
joe rogan
Maybe I've been making fun of this and it is real.
bryan callen
She's so tough, this girl.
She just took some shots in the stomach.
joe rogan
That's how stupid I am.
Wow.
bryan callen
Is CM Punk the new Tarzan?
joe rogan
Definitely not.
CM Punk, if he fails every water test ever created.
CM Punk is a very reasonable looking athlete.
bryan callen
Yes, he is.
joe rogan
He's a good looking guy.
He's kind of small.
Tall, good looking.
Not a bad looking guy.
He's handsome, but I'm saying his body is like a guy who works out a lot.
bryan callen
For sure.
brendan schaub
He doesn't look like Batiste or some shit.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
With steroid gills.
joe rogan
Who's the other?
Bobby Lashley.
That's another one.
Jesus Louisa, Bobby.
brendan schaub
He's fighting for Bellator, though.
joe rogan
He's fighting a lot of events for Bellator.
Oh, look at that.
That was in the titty!
Oh, so you know what it was?
No, no, no, it was face and then she pulled her boob popped out of the bra.
Wow, respect.
Respect to Calderwood.
She's like, what happened?
Look at this.
brendan schaub
And then that was stomach.
First one was titty, second one was stomach.
joe rogan
But there was another one to the stomach that was before that that she buckled.
There was another shot to the stomach before that that made her buckle.
So there was more than one shot to the stomach that had Valerie in trouble.
I'm pretty sure.
brendan schaub
Me and her have the exact same fade.
Is that not weird?
bryan callen
And the same ear.
And the same ear, bud.
joe rogan
See?
Getting good at this.
unidentified
Getting good.
Getting better.
joe rogan
Sometimes it's better to say nothing.
Sometimes it's better to say nothing.
I'm a big fan.
brendan schaub
Leave it to the imagination.
bryan callen
I think she's cute.
joe rogan
She's gangster as fuck, dude.
eddie bravo
She ended with a spinning backlist off the cage.
brendan schaub
That was some shit.
eddie bravo
You put her in a movie and it would look unrealistic.
joe rogan
I know, right?
Her combinations were beautiful, too.
So technical.
eddie bravo
Knee to the butt, and then she threw a right and a left elbow, and then a spinning back just to close it.
joe rogan
It was a knee to the thigh.
It was a knee to the thigh.
unidentified
Look at this.
bryan callen
Boom!
joe rogan
So she tees off on her.
This is the first one, right?
This is the first knockdown.
Now watch this shot to the body.
That's the one that turned her around.
eddie bravo
Boom!
joe rogan
Bam!
Bam!
brendan schaub
Why'd she turn around?
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
brendan schaub
What the fuck do you think was going to happen?
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
brendan schaub
This is Fight Club.
joe rogan
What a combination.
Well, she just got hurt real bad there, man.
bryan callen
She had to get out of there.
brendan schaub
I think people get hurt all the time.
You never turn your back and run.
joe rogan
Well, listen, man.
I'm not forgiving it.
I'm just saying I think her guts were on fire.
You know?
brendan schaub
Dropped to the ground.
joe rogan
It's one of those things, man.
It's like she's just reacting in that moment.
She got hurt bad.
brendan schaub
That Fedor-Maldonado fight, get the fuck out of my face.
joe rogan
What the fuck happened?
brendan schaub
Maldonado caught him with a swift left hook and he was on Queer Street.
joe rogan
Belladonna definitely should have won that fight.
bryan callen
And what happened?
brendan schaub
I mean, you're in Russia, Russian judges.
I mean, they would have stopped it.
If it was here, Fedor loses that fight.
joe rogan
I was kidding with the Belladonna, but Maldonado's a good boxer, man.
He caught him with that right hand, caught him with a nice short right hand, and beat him up on the ground.
brendan schaub
He was out.
Fader was out on his feet.
joe rogan
He looked bad.
And then he got up at one point in time and Fabio hit him with a bomb and had his legs wobbling and he did the chicken dance across the octagon and he still lost the decision.
unidentified
Yep.
brendan schaub
It's Russia.
joe rogan
I mean, but the second two rounds, he didn't do a lot.
brendan schaub
But still, that first round's 10-8.
If not, can I give a 10-4?
joe rogan
It might be 10-7.
It might be 10-7.
brendan schaub
At least 10-6.
joe rogan
Right?
Because he had him, like, I don't know, man.
When did someone get a 10-7?
brendan schaub
That would be it.
joe rogan
That was so close to a stoppage.
brendan schaub
If that's in the U.S., that fight stops, I think.
joe rogan
Well, you say that, but then there's like Frankie Edgar Grey Maynard.
brendan schaub
Well, not if Mazzagatti's the ref or who the fuck.
bryan callen
Guys, Tarzan trailer.
joe rogan
Guys, this movie's so realistic.
unidentified
I love him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because lines could be cool with a white man like that.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Back up.
Is that fucking Snoop Dogg?
brendan schaub
No, man.
That's Samuel L. Jackson.
You're high as fuck.
joe rogan
I looked at it at the very last second.
Look at this.
What is this?
Oh my god, he's dead.
He just jumped through the air and he's going to collide with a chimp, right?
brendan schaub
I see.
I can't watch it.
joe rogan
Was that a chimp or a gorilla?
bryan callen
No, that was a giant gorilla.
Gorilla.
joe rogan
Gorilla.
unidentified
Okay.
bryan callen
Well, he's dead.
Mountain gorilla.
joe rogan
Well, he's dead.
Why don't you just headbutt an airplane?
brendan schaub
Oh, then he just tackled a gorilla.
bryan callen
It's a 600-pound animal.
joe rogan
Oh, it is Sammy Jackson.
brendan schaub
Don't ever confuse the two.
joe rogan
He looks very young.
By the way, Sammy Jackson looks really good.
Look at this gorilla.
brendan schaub
Computer graphics.
joe rogan
He's going to go to war with this gorilla?
Bitch, what are you talking about?
brendan schaub
No, the gorilla's going to war for him.
joe rogan
Oh, for him.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay, well, why'd they collide then?
Different gorilla?
brendan schaub
No, I think they're trying to stake their territory for a hot gorilla.
joe rogan
You know what, man?
He picked the wrong primate to have a war with.
brendan schaub
They're fucking scary, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, those things are just way too big.
Like, the idea of an 800-pound human is terrifying, but an 800-pound gorilla?
Is that like the biggest thing yet?
We've gone over this.
I think it was like 500. No, I thought it was 600. I thought it was 630. That was the issue, right?
There was quite a few definitions.
Like, one of them said 800, one of them said 500. There are a couple big ones, I think, that are like that big.
unidentified
That's what I'm talking about, though.
brendan schaub
Fucking average!
What's the outlier, though?
Like the mountain.
joe rogan
Like the mountain.
brendan schaub
The silverback, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Who's the King Kong out there in this bitch?
joe rogan
Do you watch Game of Thrones?
brendan schaub
I don't.
I'm 33. There's dragons.
joe rogan
I do.
brendan schaub
We've been over this.
We've been over this.
joe rogan
As if you get to a certain age and dragons no longer become fun.
bryan callen
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Stop.
joe rogan
I've never liked them.
unidentified
Stop.
brendan schaub
And I'm not going to like them now.
joe rogan
Are you into it?
brendan schaub
Are you into it?
unidentified
I love it.
No, no, no.
bryan callen
I never miss an episode.
I never miss an episode.
brendan schaub
I need something to watch, too.
joe rogan
Do not disparage my fine show.
bryan callen
It's awesome.
eddie bravo
I used to look forward to it.
joe rogan
I shut everything down.
brendan schaub
And by the way, how many seasons?
joe rogan
I don't even know.
bryan callen
Six?
joe rogan
I've seen every one of them.
bryan callen
The Mother of Dragons, dude?
Khaleesi?
joe rogan
It's one of the few shows that I've seen every one of them.
bryan callen
Dude, she can step in a fire and be fine.
brendan schaub
425, 6 foot tall.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's one.
But if you go to another one, like if you go to Wikipedia, I remember it was way bigger.
bryan callen
Mountain gorillas get up to 600 pounds.
joe rogan
No, it just said 425. This is what I want you to Google, please.
What is the largest gorilla?
brendan schaub
Biggest gorilla of all time.
bryan callen
It's over 600 pounds.
eddie bravo
It's gotta be King Kong.
joe rogan
What's the Brock Lesnar of gorillas?
Because there's a Mighty Mouse Johnson and there's a Brock Lesnar.
bryan callen
It's probably obese.
brendan schaub
What's the Bob Sapp of gorillas, Jamie?
joe rogan
What does it say, Jamie?
bryan callen
Silverbacks can be 600 pounds, man.
joe rogan
I can't read anything.
brendan schaub
That's too far away.
Damn, he's out of shape, though.
joe rogan
What does it say, Jamie?
Doesn't say his weight.
brendan schaub
Bullshit.
joe rogan
What?
How dare they?
bryan callen
Biggest gorilla I ever found in the world.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what, I'd rather fuck with that gorilla than a crocodile.
joe rogan
Yeah, dude, I am so not into fucking crocodiles.
brendan schaub
I used to be into alligators, not anymore.
joe rogan
Well, we were talking about that thing before the show, that two-year-old kid that got sucked into the water in Orlando.
brendan schaub
I blame the parents a little bit.
Hey, it's Florida, son.
joe rogan
Yeah, just maybe they're not from Florida.
brendan schaub
They're from Nebraska.
They're from Nebraska.
joe rogan
They didn't know, man.
Look, if you're not around those goddamn monsters, you don't know.
brendan schaub
Hey, Disney, let's go ahead and put up some crocodile signs.
Just be safe here.
bryan callen
Well, they had signs that said, don't know swimming, but they didn't have signs that said, beware of alligators.
joe rogan
By the way, in one of my more retarded moments on the show, we were trying to figure out how a crocodile is not the biggest lizard when they're so much bigger than Komodo dragons.
We're like, why is a Komodo dragon...
Not nearly as big as a crocodile, but they call the biggest lizard.
Because crocodiles aren't reptiles.
They're reptiles.
They're lizards.
A lizard is a very specific type of reptile.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
See, I thought a lizard was a reptile.
bryan callen
It is.
brendan schaub
You did too for a little bit.
joe rogan
I definitely did when we were doing that podcast.
brendan schaub
You did too.
All of us were on board.
bryan callen
A lizard is a reptile.
joe rogan
Oh, listen, I definitely got it wrong.
brendan schaub
A crocodile's not a lizard.
joe rogan
I wouldn't even think that, well, a lizard's definitely a reptile, but a crocodile is not a lizard.
brendan schaub
Which is insane.
joe rogan
Crocodile's a reptile.
bryan callen
Oh, I see.
joe rogan
That's what we're saying.
bryan callen
Different species.
joe rogan
Different species, yeah.
But it's like one of those things like monkeys, like saying monkeys or chimps.
I just got it wrong.
You know, they're obviously the same kind of thing, you know, but they're a different classification.
bryan callen
Right, so apes don't have tails, right?
joe rogan
Right.
bryan callen
So you have baboons, gibbons, or a part of the ape.
joe rogan
Well, you know, monkey's not real, though.
It's not even a real word.
The issue is, like, monkey's not a scientific term.
brendan schaub
It's a chimpanzee.
joe rogan
There's simians, there's all sorts of different primates, right?
Right.
But the way it's described now, like the way it's been accepted, there was an article about it, maybe you can find it, Jamie, that all apes are monkeys, but not all monkeys are apes.
bryan callen
All apes are monkeys, not all monkeys are apes.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
This is in the classification.
This is the way they were going off in this article.
You could call a chimp or a person, you can call us a monkey, but you can never call one of those spider monkeys.
You can never call that an ape.
bryan callen
Right.
joe rogan
That's not an ape.
brendan schaub
I wonder, what's an orangutan?
joe rogan
That's an ape.
bryan callen
Chimpanzee.
Mountain gorilla, orangutan, gibbon, which is smaller.
It looks just as small as a lot of monkeys.
And then the bonobo.
These are all apes.
And I think baboons are apes, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're a weird one, though.
bryan callen
Baboons might be monkeys.
joe rogan
This is like a monkey that fucked a dog.
bryan callen
Oh yeah, doesn't it?
joe rogan
Baboons?
Yeah.
bryan callen
Dude, we shot something with a baboon.
Remember we shot that thing with a baboon?
brendan schaub
The guy was missing fingers and bit his fingers off.
joe rogan
What?
The trainer?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he missed two fingers and ripped his fingers off.
bryan callen
Yeah.
Because a male baboon?
brendan schaub
He was balls deep in baboons.
bryan callen
Male baboon?
brendan schaub
He was so into them.
Yeah.
And he goes, hey, you know what he said?
He goes, don't look him in the eye.
Don't look him in the eye.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
brendan schaub
And he goes, who wants a picture?
I went, not me.
But then dudes were lining up.
And when dudes would line up, I swear to God, the baboon would take pictures like this.
Girl, fucking strong arm that bitch, grab her, and just hold on to her titty.
bryan callen
Oh god, that's terrifying.
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
What a terrifying animal.
eddie bravo
I want to see video of this.
joe rogan
That's me dressed as a woman.
brendan schaub
His dick was out the entire time.
bryan callen
That's me dressed as a woman with my baboon.
brendan schaub
He had a giant boner the entire time.
joe rogan
He does.
He has a boner in this picture.
It's a purple boner.
brendan schaub
No, wait a minute.
joe rogan
I'm sending it to myself before he forgets.
bryan callen
Yeah.
And by the way, those things are strong as shit.
brendan schaub
Teeth like this.
bryan callen
The males will test you.
The males will kind of go, you're being dominant right now.
I'm going to have to sink my teeth into your face.
brendan schaub
What did the guy say to you?
All the guys?
He goes, do not look this thing in the eye.
joe rogan
What am I on your phone?
Are you going to find me on your phone?
Send it to me.
brendan schaub
You look that thing in the eye, he's gonna rip your dick off.
joe rogan
Dude, fuck those things.
Those things scare the shit out of me.
bryan callen
Yeah, they're not good bits.
brendan schaub
You know what, though?
It's kind of small.
I felt like I could fuck them up.
I felt like I could fuck them up.
joe rogan
Dude, fuck that!
bryan callen
No, no, no.
Well, you could, but not a...
joe rogan
No, you would cause some damage!
brendan schaub
You'd cause some damage!
joe rogan
But he would probably get to my neck.
But the biting!
brendan schaub
Hey, bro!
That's not the one I saw, right?
joe rogan
Look at that fucking thing!
You're not gonna be able to deal with that.
unidentified
No.
Look at that.
brendan schaub
No, fuck, no.
joe rogan
Okay, that's a special camera.
If you can bring that to the screen, does everybody at home get to see this?
brendan schaub
Oh, good God.
That's not what we're looking at.
That's not what we're looking at.
bryan callen
Have fun when that thing is sinking its fucking canines in here.
joe rogan
Dude, that's gonna bite your neck apart.
It's gonna literally shred your neck apart.
brendan schaub
I had some watered down, fucking, he was on meth or something real skinny.
bryan callen
I'll take a bite from a German Shepherd over that fucking thing.
brendan schaub
Oh, of course!
joe rogan
Dude, they're some of the most ferocious primates.
brendan schaub
Why are their asses all pink?
joe rogan
That's why they show you bitches what time it is.
bryan callen
They fight leopards.
They fight leopards.
Any more questions, you fucks?
joe rogan
Well, not only that, dude, they train dogs.
Baboons are strange.
They're very intelligent in some weird way.
eddie bravo
Yeah, they train fucking dogs.
brendan schaub
Would you rather fuck with that thing or a chimpanzee?
joe rogan
Oh man, I don't want to fuck with it.
unidentified
These conversations are the greatest.
brendan schaub
Probably him over a chimp, though.
joe rogan
Chimps will change your whole life.
bryan callen
Chimps will free you of your face and your genitals.
joe rogan
See, I'm fucking those up.
I think I could come over with this fucking thing.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying, Joe.
eddie bravo
If you're on a monkey's back, do you think you could choke a monkey out if you had his back?
joe rogan
A monkey, for sure.
Well, they're too little.
A monkey's are little.
unidentified
A bad one might surprise you.
joe rogan
It's fake.
eddie bravo
He's got a dick on him.
brendan schaub
He's got a dick on him there, though.
joe rogan
He does have a dick on him.
Look at that.
Skip leg day, though.
It's kind of a dog.
It's kind of a dog thing, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's weird.
joe rogan
It's weird.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's like all wet.
It's like real sticky and wet.
joe rogan
It's like a werewolf.
bryan callen
He's got a tight tummy, though.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Do you think that's where the origins of the werewolf came from?
Like baboons?
brendan schaub
Someone saw one of those?
It'd have to be fucking huge, though, in order for someone to think it was that big.
joe rogan
Well, just the size of a person.
bryan callen
The biggest baboon, you get baboons that are 115, I think.
brendan schaub
Jamie, what's the biggest baboon we've ever seen?
joe rogan
Okay, let's take a guess.
I'm going to go with Brian.
I think that sounds right to me.
bryan callen
How much males?
110 pounds?
brendan schaub
I'm going to go ahead and say there's a big boy out there about 180 pounds.
Just diesel the fuck up.
bryan callen
Maybe if they have diabetes.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe with 10 pounds of teeth.
bryan callen
Apes get diabetes.
They get diabetes.
They have problems.
unidentified
They do?
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Do they eat a lot?
They get insulin resistant.
bryan callen
Because in zoos, I'm always appalled in zoos.
They don't feed their apes very well.
This kid is a sturdy, sturdy young man.
joe rogan
He is friends with my friends who own Joe Beef, which is one of the best restaurants on the planet Earth.
And it's in Montreal, Canada.
bryan callen
Montréal.
joe rogan
Quebec.
Quebec, Canada.
Olivier Aubon-Mercier.
He fought in Montreal when we were there and then came to the restaurant afterwards.
What a nice guy.
Like a genuine sweetheart of a guy.
Really good jiu-jitsu.
Super fucking strong.
Strong.
Bodied up.
Bodied up.
bryan callen
Speaking of chimps.
brendan schaub
Bodied.
joe rogan
But a super, super friendly...
If you wanted to ask for someone to represent MMA to someone who thinks that MMA fighters are all thugs and assholes, this young man is so polite and well-spoken and smart and just such a good guy and a really good fighter, too.
brendan schaub
Really good.
joe rogan
Really good fighter.
bryan callen
You know what blew my mind?
I got a chance to hang out with Paul Felder a little bit.
joe rogan
Oh, great guy.
bryan callen
Great guy and a theater major in college.
Thank you very much.
Smart.
joe rogan
Super smart.
Tough as shit.
bryan callen
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Looks like he's all of 185 pounds right now.
bryan callen
Dude, he looks so...
I said to him, I go, he looks like he's made, like his bones are made of metal.
brendan schaub
What do you got there, Jamie?
joe rogan
What do we got, Jamie?
bryan callen
Chakma.
unidentified
Chakma.
jamie vernon
It says it's one of the heaviest, and at most weighs about 99 pounds.
brendan schaub
Oh, get that thing in my face.
bryan callen
A 99-pound male baboon ain't hearing a peep out of you, and good luck keeping that mouth and that non-neck away from your face.
joe rogan
Well, you definitely don't want any of that, because believe me, I had a pit bull that was 90 pounds, and he was a giant problem.
This dog, can you ever tell me a time that he wanted to get at this dog?
So he bent the bars on my house, the wrought iron bars.
I had to get a bar welded across the perimeter of my fence.
Because he realized that if he slams his fucking fire hydrant head, in between the bars, he can get them like that wide.
He's all head, right?
So a dog like that's all head.
So once they get their head through, it's like...
His body got through.
He bent the fucking bars off the hook.
Why did you have that thing?
bryan callen
His name is Frank.
joe rogan
He was a beast.
brendan schaub
What a great name.
joe rogan
Frank Sinatra.
brendan schaub
Frankie.
bryan callen
He was a beast.
joe rogan
I had to have a bar installed all around the perimeter of my yard.
brendan schaub
Goddamn.
joe rogan
And this Israeli guy comes over to install it.
He goes, what happened here?
And I said, the dog did it.
He goes, the dog?
He goes, how'd he do?
I go, he did it with his head.
He's like, get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, bitch.
He looks over the dog, looks over the bar like, what the fuck?
And the dog just sitting there.
eddie bravo
He would hunt lizards all day.
unidentified
He passed away.
eddie bravo
He would just hunt lizards all goddamn day on the mountainside.
bryan callen
The dog was a beast.
joe rogan
Look, I am not a fan of dogfighting.
I think it's a terrible, horrible thing.
But what they did is they engineered a super dog.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's what those things are.
They are not like regular dogs.
Would you give him that?
I got them from a breeder.
brendan schaub
Were you like getting creatine all the time in the show?
joe rogan
No, I didn't have to do anything with him, man.
He was a super genetic freak.
Those dogs are different than any other dog you're going to run into.
unidentified
It's a man-made dog.
joe rogan
It's a man-made dog.
They're so goddamn smart.
brendan schaub
And loyal.
joe rogan
And they're so loyal.
And they love you so much.
They're the most affectionate.
bryan callen
And the game-bred dogs, you know, animals fight out of fear or dominance.
Game-bred dogs fight because they literally enjoy it.
joe rogan
Oh, they wag their tails!
They're covered in blood, ripping each other apart, and they're wagging their tails, man.
brendan schaub
I had a red nose, man.
I love pit bulls.
joe rogan
Dude.
brendan schaub
I don't want one now that I have a kid, but we'll figure it out.
joe rogan
I've come home to dead dogs before.
brendan schaub
God damn.
joe rogan
They fought to the death.
brendan schaub
Frankie was killing things, too?
joe rogan
No, a female.
I had a female named Squeaky Fromm.
Remember her?
bryan callen
I'm the one who found her.
She's a coffee table with jaws.
joe rogan
She's a rescue dog, and she was so sweet.
I called her Squeaky Fromm because she had been...
There's an L.A. shelter that does not kill dogs.
They try not to, at least.
brendan schaub
That's awesome.
joe rogan
And so Brian told me, dude, you've got to get this dog.
You're retarded.
I know you're retarded.
I'm retarded too.
Come get this dog.
I can't get out of this dog.
I go, fuck.
I'll be right over there.
bryan callen
I knew the minute you saw her.
joe rogan
I drove down there, went down to the shelter.
Olivier Aubameurcier with the takedown.
Real close.
Good defense.
bryan callen
This is another rough...
joe rogan
So anyway, I go there and she's so sweet.
She's such a sweet dog.
And she's literally chewed most of her bottom teeth out because she was trying to get out of this cage that they had her in.
She didn't have any of her little teeth at the bottom of her mouth.
So I go, fuck this.
This dog's coming home with me.
brendan schaub
How old was she?
joe rogan
She was about eight months old.
bryan callen
She She was a beautiful dog.
Looked like an alligator with legs.
joe rogan
She was so sweet, man.
brendan schaub
I love pit bulls, man.
joe rogan
She was such a sweet, sweet dog.
She was so kind to people, but she killed two dogs.
brendan schaub
Kills happen when you have that kind of dog.
bryan callen
And you never hear about a female killing a male dog.
It never happens.
brendan schaub
I can't go to a dog pound.
I'll walk away with 17 dogs.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
I fucked up today and I went to one of those puppy mills.
brendan schaub
With your kids?
joe rogan
At the mall.
Yeah, we walked in.
bryan callen
Did you buy one?
joe rogan
No.
No.
brendan schaub
You don't want to buy one from there.
joe rogan
But it's disturbing.
You know, and just like maybe like 20 yards away from the puppy mill, they had a protest sign and a table set up to not buy puppies from puppy mills.
brendan schaub
And then Mrs. Fields was next to that.
eddie bravo
How does that help the dog?
brendan schaub
It's confusing, right?
eddie bravo
How does that help the dog?
unidentified
It's fucking confusing.
joe rogan
Mrs. Fields!
unidentified
It's always like that.
It's like fucking Baskin Robbins.
brendan schaub
There's a fucking weird table.
bryan callen
Save the Whales.
unidentified
Puppy Mill.
bryan callen
Save the Whales.
joe rogan
When did pretzels become so popular?
unidentified
Right?
I don't fucking like a pretzel.
joe rogan
The mall is filled with pretzels.
unidentified
And Cinnabon.
joe rogan
It's like one type of food that you can guarantee to always find at the mall.
brendan schaub
Pretzels, Panda Express, Cinnabon, Mrs. Fields.
andy stumpf
These buttery-ass pretzels.
brendan schaub
There ain't no keto kids in that fucking mall.
I'll tell you that right now.
eddie bravo
All the shit that people are really that into.
joe rogan
Olivier Albon-Mercier.
But you know what?
brendan schaub
I'll kill someone for a Cinnabon.
joe rogan
This is one thing, though.
People might have nice back control.
Um, but people might not be into it, but the smell is super powerful.
brendan schaub
The smell of those things.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit, he's got him in the truck, dude!
bryan callen
Cinnabon!
Cinnabon, too.
unidentified
Oh, he paid for that.
joe rogan
Oh, he lost it.
Oh, God, he got tagged.
Oh, shit.
That cost him...
brendan schaub
Fuck, man, that cost him the round.
joe rogan
He's trying to keep it together.
brendan schaub
This dude can ground and pound.
He's got a little time, though.
joe rogan
He's got a little time here.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he does.
That was a big risk.
joe rogan
Good escape.
eddie bravo
Yeah, he didn't have control of that.
brendan schaub
That's a bad idea.
eddie bravo
Pretty leg.
He let him spin out.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
Nice get up.
eddie bravo
Damn.
joe rogan
How often do commentators call the truck?
eddie bravo
I don't know.
I don't think so.
joe rogan
It's one of those weird positions.
eddie bravo
Very few people in the UFC play that game.
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
I mean, you had Alan Belcher almost twisting Paharis.
eddie bravo
I think that and then Korean Zombie.
bryan callen
This dude's like Tim Kennedy.
He's a heavy muscles young man.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's very thick.
bryan callen
What weight?
Is it 70?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
No, lightweight.
We're 55. Wow.
bryan callen
That's a giant 55er.
That's ridiculous.
He must be 4'1".
eddie bravo
But those two fights...
bryan callen
Those two fights...
eddie bravo
There weren't battles in the truck.
unidentified
Yeah, you're right.
eddie bravo
Those two fights, there was no truck battles.
They went straight to the twister.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, shit!
brendan schaub
Don't go straight back.
joe rogan
Oh, Gaudi with the serious hands.
bryan callen
Goddamn, dude.
He's good.
Gaudi's a killer.
eddie bravo
He's gotta work on running backwards.
unidentified
Killer!
joe rogan
I gotta piss out this bad one.
bryan callen
Go ahead, buddy.
joe rogan
Jesus, this is good.
bryan callen
That's my boy, Frank Grillo.
joe rogan
Purge 3. They're doing another purge.
You love the purge.
bryan callen
I love Frank Grillo.
joe rogan
Who criticizes the Game of Death or Thrones, whatever it is.
brendan schaub
Sir, you fucking shoot archery nine days a week, you would love the purge.
joe rogan
No, no, I definitely wouldn't.
brendan schaub
Because the purge could actually happen.
There are no fucking dragons.
bryan callen
It's our good friend Frank Grillo.
joe rogan
Go peace so we can talk shit about you.
bryan callen
That's my boy right there.
Go see Frank Grillo.
Go see Frank Grillo in The Purge.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
I'm not thrilled with this season at all, man.
joe rogan
Some Game of Thrones?
Oh my god, they're setting it up, dude.
bryan callen
You don't feel it?
Yeah, they're setting it up.
joe rogan
Listen, this is how it goes.
eddie bravo
Do you follow it?
joe rogan
I do.
eddie bravo
I'm not feeling it.
joe rogan
But there's going to be some long periods where they're setting up some chaos.
Just like the Red Wedding.
When they went through the Red Wedding, they set everything up.
And you're like, where's this going?
And they're like, Jesus.
When it ends, you're like...
What in the fuck?
We know it's going down.
They only have two more episodes.
bryan callen
Right?
Yes, two more episodes.
I like that the girl who has no name, she's becoming a savior.
She's gone through the fire.
joe rogan
A little upset at how quickly she heals up from getting stabbed, though.
bryan callen
Me too, me too.
You can't take that many shots to the stomach.
eddie bravo
That came out after my surgery, and I'm thinking, bullshit.
joe rogan
Listen, All I'm asking is just try a little magic.
bryan callen
That's all.
joe rogan
Can you give her a little magic?
unidentified
That's all.
joe rogan
How about the actress had some fucking magic dust that she had laying around?
bryan callen
They took some huge, huge steps.
Jon Snow coming back from the dead.
That's almost show suicide.
They get away with it, and here's why.
There's a rumor that Jon Snow might be...
joe rogan
Hey, easy.
What the fuck?
I don't want any spoiler alerts.
bryan callen
No, no, no.
joe rogan
I don't want to hear a goddamn word you're saying.
eddie bravo
No, no, no, no.
joe rogan
Don't you spoil this thing.
bryan callen
You're right.
unidentified
You're right.
joe rogan
Yeah, you son of a bitch.
bryan callen
I heard it.
I heard it.
joe rogan
I don't want to hear shit.
eddie bravo
I think that's what...
joe rogan
Let me tell you something.
Here's a good example of why spoiler alerts fucking suck.
You know what I saw the other night, man?
10 Cloverfield Lane.
bryan callen
Good.
brendan schaub
I saw you tweet about it.
unidentified
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
It's good.
joe rogan
It's fucking crazy.
eddie bravo
Really?
joe rogan
I don't fuck the reviewers.
That movie was crazy.
bryan callen
I want to see it.
jamie vernon
I tried not to tell you about it because I saw it and loved it.
brendan schaub
I loved it.
John Goodman's in that?
joe rogan
Dude, John Goodman is one of the best actors ever.
bryan callen
He's amazing.
He's amazing.
eddie bravo
Ever.
joe rogan
Ever.
For playing a crazy motherfucker.
Think about him from The Big Lebowski.
Think about him from this movie.
brendan schaub
King Ralph.
joe rogan
Dude, when he plays crazy, he plays crazy at a level where I go, this motherfucker knows what that means.
bryan callen
Remember him in Barney, what was that movie?
brendan schaub
Flintstones, son!
joe rogan
No, not Barney Fife He's Barney But Barton Fink he was amazing Don't ever say Barney I was crunk about that I love that movie He was so good in Flintstones He's a bad motherfucker dude I'm telling you, he gets to this crazy place, this edge of reality that you go, wow.
brendan schaub
Damn, I want to watch it tonight.
joe rogan
He seems so crazy that you're like, man, you have to really be crazy to act this crazy.
He's felt those thoughts in his head, right?
bryan callen
You know, that's the issue with Brad Pitt.
He plays like bad guys, but I don't think he has a bad thought in his head.
joe rogan
John Goodman does.
Yes.
brendan schaub
Johnny Depp too, obviously.
joe rogan
We should all hope that John Goodman does very well in life and never fails and never gets to the point where he's in a position where he's got nothing to lose and he decides he wants to kill you.
bryan callen
That's right.
joe rogan
Because there's a thing that that guy knows about and he puts it in these characters.
That exists in his head.
He just has to water it.
bryan callen
He's got a spree shooter just dying to get out.
brendan schaub
His size though, I'll just run.
bryan callen
Unless he's got a gun.
brendan schaub
That might be it.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
You gotta see this movie, man.
bryan callen
I'm still marveling over Obam Mercier's body.
eddie bravo
I wasn't that thrilled about the ending, though.
joe rogan
Man, that was what?
Out of nowhere.
Let's not say a word about it.
Because I don't want to...
Oh, thank you, sir.
bryan callen
I'm all over that.
I want to see...
joe rogan
I want to say a word about it.
bryan callen
What was the other movie you said?
Deos Maxina?
Maxina?
joe rogan
Oh, Ex Machina.
bryan callen
Amazing, right?
eddie bravo
That's great.
brendan schaub
Dude, I just saw Prometheus for the first time.
joe rogan
Thank you, sir.
brendan schaub
That movie's fucking dope.
It's been out for six years.
joe rogan
The movie's dope.
The first five minutes was awesome.
Left me feeling like, I don't know, man.
The movie was so good.
Alien was so good.
The first one with Ridley Scott.
brendan schaub
Goddamn, Aliens?
joe rogan
That's a work of art.
bryan callen
Amazing.
unidentified
How about that?
joe rogan
Well, that's Prometheus.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but Aliens is one of the best movies of all time.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that's what I'm saying.
brendan schaub
You said a high standard, my man.
joe rogan
I know.
brendan schaub
I was trying to be entertaining.
joe rogan
But it was so good.
It was so good that if you think of this one as being the prologue to Aliens...
Is that what it is?
What's it called?
No, it was pre-viewed.
bryan callen
Prequel.
The prequel?
joe rogan
Was it a prequel?
unidentified
Yeah, they're making another one, too.
That's right.
bryan callen
But the prologue is the right word.
brendan schaub
I loved it.
bryan callen
No, prologue is the end.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what happened in that?
Was Prometheus set before the Alien movie?
Yeah, I think as it ended, it was like...
brendan schaub
It was before, right?
Because the...
unidentified
Got an alien.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because the aliens still...
joe rogan
I don't remember.
But still, anytime you have those aliens, those are some of the scariest monsters the world's ever known.
Because when you think about bugs, man, you think about like a wasp, like there was a fucking yellow jacket by my pool the other day.
brendan schaub
Terrifying.
joe rogan
I outweigh that thing by a million percent.
brendan schaub
Still terrifying.
joe rogan
I was horrified.
brendan schaub
So scared.
joe rogan
I was horrified.
My kids are screaming.
bryan callen
My dog ran away.
Pull up the Japanese yellow wasp.
brendan schaub
Brian told me about some wasp.
Pepsi wasp?
bryan callen
The Pepsis.
brendan schaub
This thing melts your face off.
bryan callen
Yeah, the tarantula hawk.
The tarantula hawk melts your face off.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, the tarantula hawk?
bryan callen
It's called the tarantula hawk because they kill and eat tarantulas.
If you get stung, it's the most painful sting in the animal kingdom.
You will fall down.
Look at the size of that fucking thing.
You'll fall down screaming.
brendan schaub
That's nightmares, son.
That's what nightmares are made of.
bryan callen
It's like getting shot with a.45.
I heard a guy tell me that.
joe rogan
That's a tarantula hawk.
brendan schaub
We can kill a tarantula.
bryan callen
Can we just go back to that photo?
And they're in LA, and they're in Los Angeles.
brendan schaub
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
unidentified
What?
Uh-huh.
brendan schaub
Brian, tell me about the guy dying.
bryan callen
They're indigenous to LA, to Arizona.
Yes, sir.
To Utah.
They're all over the Americas.
There's no tarantulas here.
Yes, there is.
unidentified
There are tarantulas?
joe rogan
Dude, I killed a tarantula in my yard once accidentally.
brendan schaub
Every day, son.
joe rogan
I got out of my house once at night time, and I was walking towards my car, and I heard a crunch.
And I looked down, and I had a tarantula the size of a fucking blue crab under my foot.
I was like, you gotta be shitting me.
It was like my hand.
brendan schaub
It was huge.
joe rogan
It was a huge tarantula, and I'm barely exaggerating.
brendan schaub
They're everywhere.
unidentified
Barely exaction.
bryan callen
Lying a little bit.
joe rogan
Lying a little bit.
bryan callen
Bring up Japanese yellow wasp.
joe rogan
I'm telling you, dog.
brendan schaub
Some guy died from getting stung from a Pepsi wasp.
bryan callen
Pepsis.
unidentified
Pepsis.
brendan schaub
I call it Pepsi.
No, man.
joe rogan
He's allowed to change it.
bryan callen
Of course don't call it him.
joe rogan
Who decides what names they are?
brendan schaub
I agree.
bryan callen
Here's the Mac fatty.
brendan schaub
What?
What the fuck is that?
bryan callen
That's a Japanese yellow moss.
brendan schaub
We get the syringes off their ass.
bryan callen
They'll melt your face.
joe rogan
Japanese yellow what?
bryan callen
The guy was doing a weed whacker.
Moth?
joe rogan
Wasp.
bryan callen
A guy was using a weed whacker.
They were like, that guy's a threat.
Six of them landed on his face, melted his old face, his face, and he died.
He died.
brendan schaub
Melted, son.
bryan callen
Went to heaven.
joe rogan
What do you mean by melted?
bryan callen
Melted.
Apparently, look at what it does.
It eats your flesh.
Look at that.
unidentified
There you go.
Oh my God.
bryan callen
God.
Any more questions?
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
Let's read this.
The Asian Hornet is nearly two inches long with a three inch wingspan.
Slightly smaller than the European Hornet, but much more aggressive.
brendan schaub
Can kill 40 bees in a minute.
joe rogan
Oh my God!
One Asian Hornet can kill 40 bees in a minute.
A handful can destroy a hive of 30,000 bees in a couple hours.
unidentified
Yeah.
bryan callen
Any more questions, huh?
By the way, five hundo.
Five hundo to a nest.
brendan schaub
Nah, fuck these things.
They only live 55 days.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen the video of them going through a bee colony and chopping off all their heads?
brendan schaub
You know what's weird?
unidentified
I have.
Dude, look at this.
bryan callen
It's insane.
They scare off intruders by sending a lone worker hornet to warn them.
If that fails, the workers attack en masse, which is French for As a fucking group.
joe rogan
Do you know how bees figured out how to kill them when one of those workers gets into their nest?
What bees will do, because now they know what's going to happen, they cover them and they overheat them.
They cover them and they beat their wings.
brendan schaub
Smart little bastard.
joe rogan
Until they heat this little fucker, they cook him.
bryan callen
Look at that poor person right there who got stung.
joe rogan
But they realize that they have to do it.
They realize that that is the only way for them to stop the assault.
bryan callen
Goddamn.
Oh my god, look at how bad.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
brendan schaub
It's nuts.
unidentified
It's nuts.
joe rogan
Like somehow or another they got that information that one of these fuckers comes in here.
You have to cover it and heat it up.
brendan schaub
That's some Iron Man 3 shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's nuts, man.
joe rogan
Do you think that they...
Whoa, I'll bomb RCA with the rear naked.
Do you think they figured that out because they barely paid attention to these fights?
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
Do you think they figured that out because they just know that that's their natural enemy and they just kill one when they see them and if there's not a bunch of them they just do what they have to do to try to kill it?
brendan schaub
Or do you think they know the heat?
joe rogan
Yeah, do you think they know that if they don't kill it more are coming?
bryan callen
I would imagine.
joe rogan
How the fuck do they know that?
bryan callen
They have to have learned.
They learned that, right?
So when you kill crocodiles, if they want to clear an area of crocodiles, if you, this is really weird, if you kill a crocodile and you kill every crocodile that comes in that area, after a while crocodiles will avoid that area.
unidentified
Jesus.
bryan callen
They will pass it down.
They'll pass that information down to their brethren.
joe rogan
We don't even know what that is.
bryan callen
So they communicate.
joe rogan
Well, there's something going on genetically, probably.
bryan callen
Elephants will remember watering holes and droughts that they were exposed to as babies 60 years ago.
So they'll lead the entire herd to a watering hole some 20 miles away.
joe rogan
That's insane.
brendan schaub
Did you guys hear they're saying octopus are the smartest animal now on Earth?
joe rogan
More than us?
brendan schaub
No, not more than us.
Hey, easy.
Hey, obviously we're number one.
Number two, Octopio.
joe rogan
They're not smarter than Dolphins.
brendan schaub
No, they're saying they're smarter than Dolphins.
unidentified
He got it.
What?
joe rogan
They're smarter than Dolphins?
brendan schaub
That's what I'm hearing.
unidentified
Really?
eddie bravo
That's what I'm hearing.
They probably are.
joe rogan
Well, I definitely saw that there was this thing.
eddie bravo
Did you see Finding Dory?
brendan schaub
Fuck no.
joe rogan
I didn't see that, but I did see a thing about how powerful they are and how unusual they are, and that they're almost alien.
They have more chromosomes than any other animal that we've ever observed.
eddie bravo
Three hearts.
bryan callen
What a fight, dude.
brendan schaub
And they can read the attitude of a person, like what they're trying to do to them, I heard.
joe rogan
They also can regenerate limbs.
They're smart.
Their eyeballs are like ours.
Isn't that true?
bryan callen
They can read faces.
I know they can read faces.
eddie bravo
We've done this on the podcast before.
brendan schaub
I know.
I'm just saying they're the smartest animal.
More shit came out, though.
Speaking of octopus, let him strangle this human.
joe rogan
Oh, dude.
Nice segue.
bryan callen
He's too strong.
joe rogan
He's too strong.
He's also very skillful.
brendan schaub
Super skillful.
joe rogan
He's got the fat ears, yo.
brendan schaub
The other guy's very strong, too.
bryan callen
Those are the biggest ears I've ever seen in my life.
joe rogan
I was watching a video of a guy.
bryan callen
He's an elf.
He's a human elf.
joe rogan
I was watching a video of a guy draining a cauliflower ear and I was impressed up until I saw the syringe that they pulled out of Eddie Bravo's body.
I'm like, okay.
bryan callen
Dude, where'd they stick that?
eddie bravo
They went through my stomach, opened up my stomach, pulled my guts to the side, worked on my...
bryan callen
No, when they drained you, I mean.
When they drained you.
brendan schaub
Well, when they sewed me up a week later, it started swelling, man.
eddie bravo
It got really big.
I thought, fuck, man.
Maybe there's a tear on the inside.
brendan schaub
God damn, look at that.
eddie bravo
Maybe I had a hernia.
brendan schaub
Why is it black?
joe rogan
Oh my God.
eddie bravo
So I went into the doctor, and I'm like, something's wrong.
I got this massive swelling on the scar.
The scar healed, but under it, it was massive swelling, right?
brendan schaub
That's fat as Hulk Hogan's dick.
That's my favorite part.
eddie bravo
That was all right above my dick.
brendan schaub
Eddie, serious question.
You got any more painkillers, or...?
Huh, bro?
joe rogan
Somebody remembers.
brendan schaub
I'm jonesing.
eddie bravo
They're not even that good.
unidentified
Norco?
eddie bravo
Shit.
brendan schaub
They didn't give you the right guy.
joe rogan
They didn't give you the good shit?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Norco's.
joe rogan
What's a Norco's?
eddie bravo
That's like Vicodin or some shit.
brendan schaub
Oh, you need that Oxycon.
joe rogan
I thought that's the goodest shit ever.
brendan schaub
You gotta chop up, you gotta snort it.
eddie bravo
Dude, a lot of people are texting me, dude, be careful about those oxys.
brendan schaub
Don't get hooked, bro.
They are horrible.
They're terrible for your body.
eddie bravo
People are really worried about it.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah.
Most addictive thing in the world, yeah.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
eddie bravo
I don't have a physically addictive body.
I don't get addicted to shit.
unidentified
Hmm.
I don't.
joe rogan
Cut to Eddie.
eddie bravo
Otherwise I'd be...
joe rogan
Rubber band.
Dick hanging out.
Shooting it.
Eyes rolled back.
brendan schaub
The Oxy gets you, man.
eddie bravo
You'd think I'd be a raging alcoholic.
I mean, I've been drinking since I was a kid.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that'd mean you're an alcoholic.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
First science admitting it.
eddie bravo
I'm an alcoholic.
brendan schaub
If you've been drinking every day since you're a kid, yeah.
eddie bravo
I didn't say every day.
brendan schaub
Well, that's what's happening.
joe rogan
Yeah, you added every day and it made it sound better.
brendan schaub
Did I? Sorry.
joe rogan
No, it's a comedy.
It's a way to do it for comedy.
It's a way to do it.
brendan schaub
I like to exaggerate.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, it's definitely, for some people, it's obviously like a biological thing.
eddie bravo
Dude, when you can't sleep at night because you can't get comfortable, because you had back surgery, it sucks.
You want to take whatever the fuck.
I was taking stars of death.
That shit worked better than anything.
Joey came by, dropped me off a bag, and it doesn't kill the pain.
I never thought weed killed pain for me.
People say that all the time.
For me, I'm like, it doesn't kill pain.
It makes me focus on the pain.
But them stars take enough holy shit.
What happens is the pain still there, but you're so you're so stoned you don't give a shit You just want to nap That ain't shit then I start thinking what the fuck am I complaining about?
I There's refugees that are sleeping on cement and asphalt and fucking Ecuador.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm like all of a sudden right here Doesn't weed make you feel like really thankful?
eddie bravo
Yes.
joe rogan
Weed makes me feel super thankful.
bryan callen
Do you know what I think?
brendan schaub
It makes every show better.
I can watch Teen Mom be blown away.
joe rogan
Or not.
eddie bravo
I can't believe you smoke weed now.
brendan schaub
Just at night.
bryan callen
There are two things that make me feel thankful.
One is getting into a warm bed.
joe rogan
We can't talk over each other.
This is never going to work.
bryan callen
When I get into a warm bed and I know that nobody's going to be knocking on my door to take me for a walk because of my political point of view, I feel lucky that I get to sleep and then...
brendan schaub
Fuck.
joe rogan
This is what happens when you grow up with like a super conservative family.
Fuck.
unidentified
I know, dude.
joe rogan
It's so fucking true.
Brian, go night-night.
unidentified
We're going to put Fox News on right by your bed.
joe rogan
This is your favorite thing to sleep to.
bryan callen
No, but just in history, governments have always done what they wanted to their people.
We live in America.
joe rogan
Wake me up when the Megyn Kelly show's on.
unidentified
Hey, man.
joe rogan
Wake me up.
brendan schaub
You're in a gated comedian, Caledarsis.
bryan callen
I know, and then when I feed my kids, I know it sounds weird, but I have enough food.
I keep waiting for it to end.
joe rogan
He used to stay up, because remember how TVs, at one point in time, they would just, the TV would stop, there were no more shows.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It would just end, and they would play the fucking Star Spangled Banner.
Brian would stay awake, waiting for that.
bryan callen
I'd hold my heart.
I'd hold my heart.
I'll tell you what I did think about.
brendan schaub
Powerful Gary Goodrich.
joe rogan
Powerful Gary Goodrich.
brendan schaub
I never used some CTE there, so, you know?
bryan callen
Yeah, he does.
joe rogan
Yeah, unfortunately, man.
brendan schaub
They're saying he said that.
unidentified
Hey, he looked cool right there.
joe rogan
You know what he said?
He said he got most of his real damage from fighting in K-1.
brendan schaub
Yeah, no shit, Sherlock.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, he fought a lot of fights in K-1, and he fought them really close together, too.
bryan callen
Giant head.
joe rogan
Real tough fights, man.
He fought some really tough guys, man.
brendan schaub
Are you kidding me?
Gary Goodrich?
bryan callen
Jesus, yeah.
I remember when Gary Goodrich fought the guy who was the Krav Maga instructor for the Israeli Special Forces, and he was this big stud with Blue eyes.
joe rogan
Is that the UFC? Yeah.
Is that Moti Horenstein?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Powerful memory.
brendan schaub
Dude, look at this fucking Brock Lesnar.
joe rogan
Anybody says about fucking pot ruining your memory.
brendan schaub
No, you got this, son.
joe rogan
Suck it.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
How is Brock Lesnar going to come back and fight Mark Hunt?
Isn't that insane?
That's insane.
I almost feel, I really do almost feel like UFC 200 is too insane.
I almost feel like it's so insane.
brendan schaub
It's almost too much.
joe rogan
It's almost too much.
brendan schaub
It's almost too much for me to handle.
joe rogan
It's like my weak ass bitch.
eddie bravo
It's like old school prides.
joe rogan
Bitch heart.
unidentified
Can't handle it.
brendan schaub
I agree.
Can't handle it.
I agree.
joe rogan
It's too much.
brendan schaub
Twice a year, make a Super Bowl type card.
That's almost too much stuff.
unidentified
Twice a year.
brendan schaub
Even the Super Bowl.
bryan callen
I'll tell you what.
joe rogan
Third highest in UFC history.
55% takedown accuracy.
bryan callen
Yeah.
If he grabs Mark, puts him on his back.
joe rogan
That's true.
But still.
That's true.
He's not gonna get tested, right?
eddie bravo
He's not gonna get tested.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
He's absolutely gonna get tested.
brendan schaub
Only the four weeks.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
He's exempt from the four months in advance rule, which means you have to be tested up until four months in advance.
This deal came together so quickly that there's just no way they could have that because they weren't even talking to him four months ago.
No, it's true.
They weren't talking to him for doing this fight four months ago.
You think Brock literally went from zero training- I'm not saying that.
brendan schaub
From zero training, didn't think he was going to fight at all, to four weeks before being like, I'll take it.
joe rogan
I'm saying that this deal, like him getting signed to fight, did not happen until recently.
It was a very recent thing.
They were trying to make UFC 200 crazier after Conor and Nate fell off.
brendan schaub
True.
True.
joe rogan
This is where all this came from.
They had to make this...
I can't talk about it because I know too much of the inside stuff of what they had to do to make it work out.
But it was an ordeal.
This was an ordeal to pull off.
bryan callen
The Nate Conner thing?
joe rogan
No, this Brock Lesnar thing.
brendan schaub
It is an exception though, Joe.
joe rogan
Because he's still wrestling for the WWE. This is a crazy deal.
It was not an easy thing to pull off.
eddie bravo
So he's not going to get tested.
joe rogan
He's tested now.
unidentified
He is.
joe rogan
He just doesn't have to do the four...
brendan schaub
They weren't testing him four months ago.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Like every other...
He's the exception.
bryan callen
Can I ask you why?
joe rogan
I feel your point, man.
brendan schaub
But if you're going to make exceptions for him, you've got to do it for other guys.
joe rogan
Well, here's the deal, right?
This is the argument against it.
The argument against it is you've got to say, listen, if you want to make this legitimate, you should have no question whatsoever that your athletes are clean and compliant.
And that means four months out.
But, how are you not going to make this fight?
Like, if you're a promoter, and there's no way you can test a guy from four months ago, but you say, listen, we can test him right now.
We test him right now.
Do we have an exemption?
Okay, if he's on steroids right now, we're fucked, and we're done, and his deal's over, right?
But if he's clean, he says he's clean, let's fucking do it.
Let's use the exemption.
No, I get it.
brendan schaub
For entertainment and pay-per-view numbers, it makes 100%.
But if you're going to say, hey Connor, we don't make exceptions for anyone.
Brock Lesnar, here's an exception, brother.
And from a WWE background.
joe rogan
It's a different kind of exception.
brendan schaub
You're still making exceptions.
joe rogan
No, because you're making an exception to what happened in the past before the deal.
You're not making an exception as far as what you have to do from here on out in terms of promotion and in terms of what's agreed upon by the promoter and the athlete.
brendan schaub
True, but if every other...
joe rogan
I don't know what's agreed upon.
This is just talking out of my ass.
brendan schaub
So let's say I want to come back right now.
I have to give them a four month advance and they have to test me.
joe rogan
Or you're a big enough star where they use their exemption.
What if the fighter in the keynote?
No.
If you don't know that you're going to fight until right before you're going to fight.
Let's put it this way.
You don't think I would know before?
I'm not necessarily in favor.
You might be an impulsive person.
I don't know.
But let's just say you're like Brendan Chubb.
You're a pretty crazy guy.
If someone came along and maybe a year and a half from now you're fucking still keto'd up and you and Tony Jeffries are hitting the pads every day and you're feeling frisky.
When you're rolling with Hen and Burrell, or Hen and Gracie?
Hen and Burrell.
brendan schaub
That'd be fun, man.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
Mixing up my Brazilian awesome dudes.
If you did that, and you said, fuck it, man, I want to come back.
If the fighter and the kid blows up, and you're getting 20 million downloads a month, and everything is happy and fascinating, and you just go, I need something else.
I need a fucking challenge.
I want to fight.
And then Dana White calls you up, and he's smoking a cigar on the phone.
Listen here, Brendan.
brendan schaub
You're crazy.
joe rogan
I got a deal for you, kid.
And then you just say, fuck it, I'm crazy.
unidentified
I'm gonna try.
brendan schaub
They don't make that exemption.
joe rogan
Maybe they would.
If you were famous as Brock Lesnar!
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
You listening to me?
Brock fucking Lesnar, you gotta make it!
brendan schaub
I'm talking you're batshit crazy if you think Brock didn't know he was gonna fight for us.
joe rogan
You might be correct.
brendan schaub
And also, come from a WWE... Where guys are notoriously known for taking steroids.
It's a little fishy.
joe rogan
Well, it's definitely not ideal when you're trying to promote this sport as being absolutely tested, right?
Because you have this little weird gray area that you introduced.
brendan schaub
It's more entertainment than sport.
joe rogan
But as a fan, it's criminal to not make this fight.
It is criminal.
I want to see it, but I feel you.
brendan schaub
Mark Hunt's been tested.
joe rogan
Yes, he has.
I understand you and I agree with you.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at it though.
I'm just saying if you make certain exceptions, then it's a weird gray area.
bryan callen
But why would Brock Lesnar...
I mean, we all do respect to him.
joe rogan
Powerful Kimbo Smith.
brendan schaub
Let's take a moment of silence.
joe rogan
How about a fucking round of applause?
That guy had a real life.
eddie bravo
That's a movie right there.
unidentified
That's a blockbuster movie.
brendan schaub
Oh, there he got the script.
bryan callen
He was a real man.
brendan schaub
There he got the script.
joe rogan
And he was a real good dude.
brendan schaub
Great guy.
joe rogan
I always enjoy talking to Kimbo.
eddie bravo
Who's going to play Kimbo?
joe rogan
Nobody.
eddie bravo
Me?
brendan schaub
I'm going to go Robert Downey Jr. and spray paint my face.
joe rogan
No, you do it like Jurassic Park.
You just get a computer to make images of Kimbo and you get some dudes who are really good at doing Kimbo.
You can't have an actor.
bryan callen
No.
brendan schaub
You don't think so?
joe rogan
No, you use a real Kimbo.
brendan schaub
You don't think you can get...
joe rogan
Use a computer-generated Kimbo.
eddie bravo
Michael Jai White.
joe rogan
That'd be perfect.
brendan schaub
How dare you?
joe rogan
Come on.
unidentified
He's too big, all right?
brendan schaub
No, how dare you?
eddie bravo
What are you talking about?
bryan callen
That's a good call.
unidentified
He grew up here.
eddie bravo
No, it's not.
brendan schaub
He looks nothing like him.
bryan callen
The best actor in the world.
joe rogan
Michael Jai White could pull it off.
eddie bravo
Did Michael Jai White play Tyson?
joe rogan
He played Tyson.
bryan callen
He's tough.
unidentified
He's good.
joe rogan
He pulled off Tyson.
eddie bravo
Come on.
joe rogan
You don't think he pulled off Tyson?
eddie bravo
He was the Spawn.
joe rogan
How dare you?
eddie bravo
He was Spawn.
brendan schaub
No, I liked him in Spawn.
joe rogan
He definitely pulled off Spawn.
unidentified
And by the way, he's about the same age.
bryan callen
Mind your P's and Q's around him, please.
Dude, he could totally pull it off.
He'll throw some bones at your face.
joe rogan
Let me just say, let's just stop all that nonsense and let's just say Michael Jai White is a cool motherfucker.
I'm a big fan of him as a person and as an actor.
brendan schaub
And as Spawn.
joe rogan
He's a great dude.
brendan schaub
To say he can play Kimball, I think there's some other guys who can do it.
joe rogan
He's built for it.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's certainly built for it.
eddie bravo
He's fucking giant.
joe rogan
He's jacked as fuck.
bryan callen
Hey.
Mind your P's and Q's, man.
unidentified
Fuck you.
joe rogan
Listen, man.
He's a good dude and a legit martial artist.
Yeah.
Michael Jai White came to Legends and he threw a hopping sidekick at the back.
Granted, his bag, the chain would break all the time.
eddie bravo
Turning sidekick.
joe rogan
No, this one, I don't even think it was a turning sidekick, dude.
eddie bravo
He's a turning sidekick.
unidentified
Are you sure?
joe rogan
I thought it was a hopping sidekick.
bryan callen
He's a big guy.
joe rogan
Either way, whatever the kick it was, he's got perfect technique.
Michael Jaiwai has perfect kicking technique.
His sidekick is laser sharp.
He extends his foot.
He holds it out there and pulls it back.
Legit, very high-level, black belt.
unidentified
You don't kick.
You kick next to him.
bryan callen
If you see him in a bar, you buy him a drink, and you thank him for his work.
brendan schaub
No, I thank him for Spawn, and then it stops there.
bryan callen
No, you thank him for Spawn.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Hold on a second.
Brian, let me ask you this.
Do you think that you, at 170 pounds of supple glory...
bryan callen
And I'm supple.
I'm a leopard.
joe rogan
Keep going.
Do you think that you can kick as hard as Schaub can, even though Schaub doesn't kick?
bryan callen
No.
No, I don't think...
I tried to grab...
unidentified
Schaub and I... Schaub and I tried to...
bryan callen
Yesterday, yesterday...
Yesterday, yesterday, I said to Brendan Schaub, and I was kind of...
I was half serious.
We came out, we did this real fun press thing, and he grabbed me around my torso, and I said, oh, my back, my back, please, and I tapped immediately.
And then I said, I got...
Something happened.
Maybe it was too much coffee.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
bryan callen
Maybe it was too much coffee.
And I said, and I was half serious, maybe even 70% serious.
I go, I was a wrestler.
I don't like the way it came at me.
brendan schaub
We're in the middle of the street on the Abbot Kenny, by the way.
bryan callen
Yeah, I'm a man.
And by the way, I'm in shape.
I boxed, I played tennis.
I said, if I didn't want you to, you're not getting me in a body lock.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
unidentified
Yeah.
bryan callen
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
Tell him what you did with your phone.
brendan schaub
Hey, he put his phone and wallet on top of his car.
bryan callen
On top of my car.
brendan schaub
And then go, take it from there.
bryan callen
I put my phone and my wallet on top of my car.
brendan schaub
This is the best part, Joe.
bryan callen
And then we engage.
We engage.
I try a couple arm drags.
I get some wrist control.
I get some wrist control.
He tries to head me.
He tries to kind of throw a headlock on me.
I bowl my neck.
I bowl my neck.
And then he got two on one on my wrist.
He got both his hands on my wrist.
He goes, ooh, let me get two on one.
unidentified
That's a big mistake.
bryan callen
He whispered.
And then I felt his explosive power.
And he put me into a body lock.
And then I began to immediately squeal like a pig.
brendan schaub
But this is the best part.
And then I go, all right, bro, I'll meet you at the lunch place.
He drives off, leaves his phone and wall on top of his car, and he ran over his iPhone.
joe rogan
See, this is the thing, Brian.
bryan callen
I sure did.
joe rogan
As an objective person, this is why this is so disturbing to me.
I know what I can do to you, and then I know what he can do to me.
That doesn't make sense to me.
I've gotten a hold of you before and you feel relatively helpless.
bryan callen
No, no, no.
Hold on.
I'm a pretty good wrestler, bro.
I'm a good wrestler.
unidentified
Look at Brian's phone.
joe rogan
It's a true story.
He shows the phone on his Instagram.
unidentified
And then he goes to Apple and they charge him $1,000 for a new phone.
bryan callen
$1,000 mistake.
brendan schaub
He goes, bro, that thing cost me $1,000.
joe rogan
The story's worth five grand.
I'll pay you five grand for the story.
unidentified
Yeah, it was.
brendan schaub
You got hustling an iPhone, man.
joe rogan
Oh, come on, man.
How could you really think that you could grapple with him?
bryan callen
That's so crazy.
Because I'm good on my feet.
joe rogan
Oh, Brian.
This is weird.
bryan callen
I know it is.
It's sad.
unidentified
It's weird.
joe rogan
Just don't do this.
Just don't do this.
bryan callen
I'm going to stick to my guns, and I'm going to say, if I get round two, he's going to have more problems.
joe rogan
Do you remember that time when you tried to pull my bow back?
You know that bow that I shoot 100 arrows a day?
bryan callen
I don't remember, bro.
joe rogan
I don't remember.
There was a brick wall that God put in front of the strings.
It just was not moving.
bryan callen
Listen, bro.
I'm having wine.
I don't remember what you're talking about.
joe rogan
There's a strangeness to this humor because I know part of it is humor.
unidentified
It's the best, though.
joe rogan
But the strangeness is there's a whisper of truth.
I am 100% convinced that Shab is too big and too strong for me to grapple with him.
But you're not.
bryan callen
No, no, I am.
unidentified
You're not, though.
joe rogan
But you're not, really.
unidentified
There's a whisper.
joe rogan
See, if me and Shab are rolling, I'm thinking, how long can I survive?
And whether or not I could, is it possible to get him so tired and to survive long enough that I can catch him?
I'm going to get him so tired.
Because he's so much bigger.
bryan callen
Yeah, and he's so strong.
And by the way, I like to stick my finger in the cage and poke the bear.
I think that's what it is.
unidentified
Yeah, but that's weird.
joe rogan
But the weird thing is, like, I don't think you're totally aware...
bryan callen
No, I am.
joe rogan
...of what you can and can't do.
bryan callen
No, no.
I'm very aware.
unidentified
That might be why it's so great.
bryan callen
It's not true.
It's not true.
There's a little weirdness there.
No, no, no, no.
I'm very aware of how badly I could get beat up, and I felt it.
I felt it.
I've been put in bad positions by him, by other guys, by boxing, all that.
joe rogan
Have you ever, like, hugged Dan Henderson?
bryan callen
Oh, no.
joe rogan
That's a very uncomfortable feeling.
bryan callen
He's made of wood.
joe rogan
I never have.
It's so funny that you say that.
That's exactly what Ryan Parsons, who trained him forever, said.
He said he would have to do deep tissue one, like rub him down after a fight.
He said he'd be exhausted.
He's made out of a different thing.
bryan callen
He's got a simian strength.
There's nobody more...
He's got his head, everything about him.
joe rogan
Or fucking Hector Lombard, the guy he just fought.
Give that guy a handshake.
brendan schaub
I actually think Dan Henderson had a title shot.
joe rogan
Oh, I hope so.
Believe me, the kid was...
I'm not the kid.
You're the kid.
Thank you.
You're kind of the kid.
bryan callen
Thank you.
joe rogan
I don't know what I am.
brendan schaub
No, it's keto.
unidentified
Me.
joe rogan
Me person.
I was lobbying for that.
Me person.
I called Dana up.
I said, dude, let's talk about this.
bryan callen
Really?
joe rogan
Come on.
brendan schaub
And then I text you, I went, is that for reals you guys?
No, I'm just trying to hype this thing up.
joe rogan
What could be a better, more exciting fight to see than Bisping Hendo 2?
brendan schaub
And they both walk away.
They both walk away.
joe rogan
Then you got Weidman, Rockhold 2. I feel like Jaco Rey, as a fan, is disappointing me that he doesn't just step aside and let this fight happen.
unidentified
As a goddamn human being, get the fuck out the way!
As a fan!
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
As a fan, Jacare, you're next, bro.
100%.
brendan schaub
You got this.
joe rogan
For now.
Lift weights.
How about we won't even drug test you for like a month?
unidentified
Yeah!
brendan schaub
All the outside you can handle.
We'll give you six months off.
bryan callen
Well, he's got to have torn MCL or something.
joe rogan
Do fucking yoga.
brendan schaub
Do fucking whatever you want.
joe rogan
Please, just let this fight happen.
Please.
And then you're next.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
And then Weidman and Rockhold have a rematch.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Come on!
brendan schaub
Intern belt, boom.
joe rogan
Both guys just lost.
Weidman wants it.
Rockhold wants it.
Come on, son.
No interim belts.
brendan schaub
It's too easy.
joe rogan
They're throwing away too many interim belts.
unidentified
No, no, no.
Look at that tattoo.
joe rogan
I want Bisbee and Dan.
brendan schaub
They both retire after that.
And then Rockhold and Weidman fight for the belt.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Or Jacare Weidman.
Or Jacare Rockhold.
brendan schaub
No, no.
Weidman.
bryan callen
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
This guy looked at stained glass.
unidentified
I don't know.
bryan callen
And got a tattoo.
brendan schaub
The worst tattoos of all time.
joe rogan
He's a radio guy.
Really?
Yeah, he's got a morning show, I believe, a sports show.
bryan callen
By the way, Steve Boss is a cutie pie.
joe rogan
Really good guy, really nice guy, and really fucking tough guy.
And you know who he is?
Oh, yeah.
He's the hockey enforcer.
This motherfucker's had like 270 hockey fights.
bryan callen
Wow.
joe rogan
Gangster.
brendan schaub
I think it was AAA hockey, though.
It was in the NHL. What the fuck are you talking about?
Not NHL. Really?
No, I don't think so.
unidentified
Are you sure?
brendan schaub
I'm almost positive, yeah.
Our producer, Evan the Cub, is balls deep in hockey and he said he never played in NHL, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
So either way.
brendan schaub
Either way, he's a badass.
joe rogan
He's a hockey bruiser.
brendan schaub
High-level hockey's insane.
joe rogan
And he's been winning fights.
unidentified
This guy's the worst tattoo in the UFC. How many fights has he won in the UFC so far, Jamie?
brendan schaub
No, just two and one, right?
He got knocked out his first one, then won his last one.
joe rogan
He took his first fight on short notice and got stopped by someone.
Who stopped him?
Oh, Tiago Santos.
Tiago Santos is a beast.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's one and one in the O.C. But then he beat James Tohuna.
joe rogan
Tohuna's legit, man.
brendan schaub
Knocked him out.
joe rogan
Knocked him out.
unidentified
Fast.
brendan schaub
52 seconds.
Look at his fucking fights.
30 seconds, 52. Boom!
Oh, this one's...
Someone's getting knocked out quick.
joe rogan
And O'Connell's gangster, dude.
bryan callen
I'm telling you.
joe rogan
O'Connell's got power.
brendan schaub
Hit him with the stained glass, son!
joe rogan
O'Connell's got power.
brendan schaub
Get off the stained glass and the titties!
bryan callen
Use the Holy Ghost power!
joe rogan
And he stays in the pocket.
brendan schaub
I don't like what he's doing with his right hand.
joe rogan
Pull up his record, Jamie.
bryan callen
Very Roman Catholic.
brendan schaub
That stained glass tattoo I've never seen before.
bryan callen
Yeah, I haven't either.
It's a problem.
It's an issue.
Let's go ahead and get a tan.
joe rogan
It's freaking sick!
bryan callen
Let's go ahead and get a tan.
brendan schaub
Hell no, I celebrate that shit.
bryan callen
Yeah, one guy's got a tan, that's...
brendan schaub
Someone's getting knocked out.
This fight ain't going past the second.
unidentified
Nah, these guys are a little crazy.
bryan callen
Somebody's gonna get tired.
joe rogan
That is an odd choice of tattoos, but that's coming from a guy who has odd tattoos.
brendan schaub
Oh, I have fucking odd tattoos.
joe rogan
Oh!
Oh, Kyle's connected!
unidentified
He's out!
Stained glass tattoos for the win!
joe rogan
Dude, how tough is Boss?
bryan callen
Wow.
joe rogan
He's hanging in there.
unidentified
Powerful tan, Boss.
joe rogan
Oh!
Beautiful tan.
brendan schaub
Beautiful fucking tan.
joe rogan
Something about those Canadians.
bryan callen
He should let him back up and do it again.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
Oh, no, man.
Keep beating on him.
What are you talking about?
This guy's almost done.
bryan callen
Just in my experience in the octagon.
brendan schaub
You don't have stained glass tattoos, Brian.
unidentified
That's true.
brendan schaub
You can knock him out against the cage right now.
joe rogan
When you're up, you've got a chance.
When you're down, you're only punching up.
Right.
bryan callen
God, that guy's tough.
unidentified
It's hard to let a guy up.
brendan schaub
He can recover, though.
bryan callen
Boss is tough.
He just took...
joe rogan
There's O'Connell, man.
O'Connell's got a nasty left hand, man.
He's just tough as shit.
He's just one of those Irish fucks that just doesn't want to quiff.
brendan schaub
You don't have stained glass tattoos that are tough as fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You don't get that stuff, because you know you're going to get clowned on.
joe rogan
Boom!
Another hard left.
unidentified
Ow!
joe rogan
Bossy just connected!
unidentified
Very...
joe rogan
Am I saying his name wrong?
Bossy?
Bossy?
bryan callen
Bossy's got some big legs.
joe rogan
Why am I thinking it's Bossy?
bryan callen
Take a look at the circumference of his thighs, sir.
joe rogan
Maybe we should change it.
brendan schaub
Powerful tan by Bossy.
bryan callen
Go ahead and look at the thighs on this kid.
Look at Bossy's thighs.
joe rogan
Let's call him the Bossy.
brendan schaub
Let's just call him the Boss.
joe rogan
No, let's call him his real name or he'll get mad.
Yeah, I don't want that.
brendan schaub
You think?
Just double leg him, Joe.
joe rogan
O'Connell's gangster.
bryan callen
Those are some big legs.
That's hard to double leg.
Look at how big his legs are.
brendan schaub
Tell you right now, if this fight was on ice, your boy's fucked.
joe rogan
Well, that is an interesting thing, man, about hockey players, man.
They develop some serious balance.
O'Connell tags him again!
O'Connell's been doing...
He's ending his combinations with that left hand.
And that's where Balsy's getting caught.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's throwing punches and bunches and it's landing.
joe rogan
It's also his accuracy is really good while Bossy's moving.
Correct.
Moving back.
Yeah, catching and moving back.
That's not easy to do.
That's good timing.
brendan schaub
His tattoo artist.
joe rogan
You might want to call up Aaron Delevadova, Guru Tattoo, San Diego.
Might clean that shit up.
brendan schaub
Mm-hmm.
More color, dog.
unidentified
Like a Crayola box on that white skin.
joe rogan
That's one good thing that white people have.
brendan schaub
I know.
I can't do color.
joe rogan
White people could do some amazing things.
brendan schaub
Fucking white people.
joe rogan
Like, if you are a serious albino, you could have some beautiful colors.
brendan schaub
I know.
I have no clue.
joe rogan
You're a white piece of paper, you know?
brendan schaub
I know.
White canvas.
joe rogan
Black dudes, they can put tattoos everywhere, though.
brendan schaub
I feel like they look better on them.
joe rogan
Somehow or another, it's like a subtle thing.
brendan schaub
They should do white ink, though.
It just doesn't take to the skin, I guess.
unidentified
No, it doesn't work.
brendan schaub
It looks sick, though, right?
joe rogan
Oh, nasty left hands to the body.
Yeah, but...
You know, it's interesting that the black eye covered in tattoos is a fairly new thing culturally in this country, right?
brendan schaub
Rappers, athletes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, but it's so common now.
It's interesting how it took off.
Like if you looked at black guys from like Muhammad Ali's era or Joe Frazier's era.
brendan schaub
Zero tattoos.
joe rogan
Yeah, but then look at like Deontay Wilder.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
So many guys like that.
brendan schaub
So many guys.
bryan callen
Well, tattoos were subversive up until really the 90s.
brendan schaub
Sailors, huh?
joe rogan
I mean, you know.
bryan callen
Yeah, body art was always considered subversive and weird.
Decoration.
And you had to be a criminal or something.
joe rogan
Motorcycle gang.
bryan callen
Yeah, something.
brendan schaub
Sailor, truck driver.
bryan callen
You had to be on the outskirts of society to have a tattoo.
Even an earring.
I remember I told my dad I got an earring as a joke when I was 16 and my father hung the phone up.
brendan schaub
No, I didn't, Brennan.
bryan callen
No, I didn't, Brennan.
joe rogan
Guys, don't fight.
unidentified
Sorry.
brendan schaub
You thought I was sick, too.
bryan callen
He's a bully.
That word we were talking about before the show.
brendan schaub
That word is terrible.
That word is so silly.
joe rogan
It's used sometimes with people just arguing with each other.
If one person's right, he's a bully.
brendan schaub
Damn, Bossy going for the takedown.
That's why no shit hit the fan.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
He's trying to mix it up.
He's trying to mix it up.
bryan callen
These guys are taking crazy shots to the head.
brendan schaub
That boy is tired.
Damn, that tattoo is so colorful.
White people.
White fucking people.
joe rogan
Powerful canvases.
brendan schaub
Dude, I love tattoos.
A lot of white people get the red ink these days.
I see girls with red ink lately.
bryan callen
But that's iconography.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
God damn!
Enjoy that left hook, son.
Damn.
Jesus Christ.
bryan callen
And he still weathered the storm.
joe rogan
Incredible.
Incredible.
brendan schaub
Powerful tan.
God damn it.
bryan callen
Look at his nose.
He can't breathe out of his nose.
brendan schaub
That left hook broke that nose for sure.
bryan callen
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Hockey might have done that.
joe rogan
Probably hockey, right?
brendan schaub
Hockey is some rough fucking dudes.
Think about how many games they play.
The cardio.
I used to train with some professional hockey players.
They are fucking gangsters.
They also party harder than any professional athlete I know.
joe rogan
Think about how stupid noses are.
This weak ass little structure in the middle of your face.
All someone has to do is smash it and you're like down to like 60% strength.
All they have to do is destroy that thing.
brendan schaub
Do you think our noses are meant to be smashed, though?
joe rogan
Well, why is it?
They're like that in this world full of bears.
Well, giraffes have nose.
Fucking chimpanzees.
brendan schaub
They don't have noses.
joe rogan
They got strong noses.
Try punching a giraffe, bitch.
bryan callen
It's eyes.
joe rogan
Eyes are what?
brendan schaub
You can't really break a cat's nose, can you?
bryan callen
No.
joe rogan
You can punch a house cat right in the face and it'll kill you in your sleep.
bryan callen
Made to kill you with its face.
brendan schaub
And their noses are all wet.
bryan callen
These guys are drunk.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this fight is insane.
Oh, O'Connell's about to go.
O'Connell's in trouble.
brendan schaub
O'Connell's about to go.
When one of these guys shoots for a takedown, you know, it's go time.
joe rogan
O'Connell just took a big deep breath too.
Yeah, he looked exhausted.
bryan callen
Not good for his head.
joe rogan
Please don't go to the mat.
brendan schaub
I'm not trying to see either of these guys grapple.
joe rogan
It's interesting when you see a guy come back while he's hurt.
Because that's when you find out what kind of condition you're really in.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
How quickly can you come back while you're hurt?
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Did you ever see the training Fedor used to do?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
He'd like to train like he was wobbled.
No, he would fly around in circles like he would punch and then spar or do running and shit.
bryan callen
God.
brendan schaub
It was nuts.
Hey, man.
joe rogan
He needed it.
He needed that against Maldonado.
brendan schaub
That shit paid off against Maldonado.
joe rogan
Well, you know, he's a tough guy.
That paid off.
But I don't like the way he approached that fight.
This is a guy who went toe-to-toe with Krokop, okay?
I don't know what kind of testing they had him under.
Do you?
Do you have any idea?
brendan schaub
Yeah, none.
Yes, sir.
None.
Are you fucking kidding me?
joe rogan
Okay, it's like Novitski likes to call the smell test.
He smelled like B.O. and kettlebells to me.
It doesn't smell like any steroids at all.
brendan schaub
No, he smelled like cabbage and potatoes.
He looked like shit.
unidentified
I love how people are like, he's so close to coming to the UFC. I don't give a fuck.
brendan schaub
It's not 2007. You get ate the fuck up!
joe rogan
Before this fight, I would have argued with you.
brendan schaub
I know.
unidentified
Me too.
joe rogan
But Maldonado exposed him in a bit of a way.
But it also could be that he hasn't- When was the last time he competed?
How long ago was his last fight?
brendan schaub
Not that far ago.
Who'd he fight?
He fought that chump and beat the fuck out of him like- Right.
Who'd he beat up?
Some scrub.
joe rogan
Right, who was it?
brendan schaub
Some pure scrub.
eddie bravo
He fought Mickey Rourke in Russia.
unidentified
And Mickey went down.
Mickey got paid to go down.
He might as well.
joe rogan
That's the line of the show.
unidentified
Oh yeah, that Singh guy.
joe rogan
He had two fights.
brendan schaub
He had two fucking fights.
Look at that before that.
unidentified
Izzo.
joe rogan
He took that guy down and punched him until he tapped.
brendan schaub
That was in December.
Yeah, it was a terrible fucking fight.
He's not fighting anyone.
So you come to the UFC. Hey, we're going to test you unless you're Brock Lesnar.
You're going to get fucked up.
joe rogan
So Bossy's got to call my ground.
brendan schaub
I got Bossy in this fight.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this fight's crazy.
brendan schaub
Oh, O'Connell.
Meaning he's gonna finish him.
I think O'Connell's exhausted.
joe rogan
O'Connell's strong, but he keeps that half guard.
Keep the half guard.
He's got the underhook.
Oh, Bossy with his own underhook on the leg.
Stops it.
Stops the pass.
unidentified
Oof.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
Oh.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
Bossy's winning this fucking fight.
joe rogan
Damn, Bossy's tough as fuck, dude.
brendan schaub
So tough.
He got fucked up.
joe rogan
This is a war, man.
brendan schaub
Bossy's the tan gentleman on top.
unidentified
Bossy's a beast.
joe rogan
Bossy's the one who looks like he should be hopping out of a cage.
brendan schaub
Bossy looks like- It's not Bossy.
unidentified
It's Bwosh.
Come on, man.
brendan schaub
Don't fucking- Did you hear what I said?
joe rogan
You didn't even hear what I said.
unidentified
What'd you say?
What'd you say?
Look, he should be jumping out of a cake.
Bossy's the one with the Hulk Hogan skin, the hot dog skin.
Yeah, that's him on top.
joe rogan
Hot dog skin is hilarious.
unidentified
How funny is that?
joe rogan
That's the tannest, best-looking guys have hot dog skin.
unidentified
They all have hot dog skin, right?
Hulk Hogan looks like a hot dog.
joe rogan
Dude, hot dog skin is the best expression ever.
When did you come up with that?
eddie bravo
For a while ago.
joe rogan
A while ago.
That's beautiful.
brendan schaub
That's how I describe Paul Shogan.
joe rogan
Congratulations.
There's a few descriptions in my life that have really sunk home.
Oh shit!
Bossy with the hammer fist.
O'Connell's in trouble, man.
He's in trouble.
brendan schaub
O'Connell's losing this fight.
joe rogan
O'Connell's tough, though.
He's in a lot of trouble right here.
He's also fucking exhausted.
Well, it's for sure one and one.
I mean, you say he's losing his fight, but this is a draw.
I mean, he's in trouble.
brendan schaub
No, I agree.
If someone said, hey Shaw, bet on this fight, I got Bossy.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
Bossy, Bossy, Bossy.
joe rogan
You fucking never know with a dude like O'Connell.
He's just so goddamn tough.
brendan schaub
He finds a way to survive.
joe rogan
Either one of these guys.
brendan schaub
Bossy's one and one.
One 30-second knockout, one 59-second knockout.
joe rogan
And the way he survived that onslaught.
I mean, his head snapped back, his eyes rolled back, he bounced off the ground, and he still got back up.
brendan schaub
Bossy should be jumping out of a cake.
Offering him for an armbar.
That's hilarious.
bryan callen
Not a lot of jujitsu here.
brendan schaub
Oh, look at this.
No, just stand the fuck up.
bryan callen
It's too messy.
Not a lot of high-level jujitsu here?
joe rogan
It just went to the 100% to control the position.
bryan callen
Just...
brendan schaub
I wish they would stand up and blast each other in the face.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I sound like a fan with a tap-out shirt.
bryan callen
Bossy's got giant...
joey diaz
Here we go!
Here we go!
joe rogan
What's the new tap-out shirt?
brendan schaub
Fire in the kid.
unidentified
Oh my god, you're right.
brendan schaub
They're everywhere.
joe rogan
They are everywhere.
I see them all the time at my shows.
Oh shit, this is a war!
Knee of the body.
Dude, you got that fucking Cowherd guy wearing one.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Colin Cowherd.
He loves us, man.
joe rogan
It's nuts.
unidentified
That's amazing.
brendan schaub
I know, right?
bryan callen
He loved the series.
He liked the 3D series.
joe rogan
But that guy's a big deal.
I know.
brendan schaub
And to support us, I was like, what?
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
unidentified
What's his name?
joe rogan
Colin Cowherd.
bryan callen
He's a good guy, man.
joe rogan
Famous to talk.
Look, if I know who you are, you're famous.
bryan callen
Yeah, and you watch that show religiously, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's my favorite.
joe rogan
He's good, man.
Ask good questions.
He's a smart guy.
He's an objective guy.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
I can't believe you posted a picture on that shirt.
joe rogan
Who's that other guy that's like a really famous guy?
brendan schaub
There's Skip Bayless.
joe rogan
Radio guy.
brendan schaub
Dan Patrick.
Dan Patrick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I did that guy's show recently.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I'm surprised you did that show.
joe rogan
Well, I was doing like a tour for the UFC. He seemed like a nice guy, too, but he definitely didn't seem like he knows a lot.
brendan schaub
He didn't know shit about fighting.
joe rogan
No.
Well, you know, he asked good questions.
brendan schaub
He's really good.
joe rogan
He's a professional.
brendan schaub
Yeah, oh, super professional.
He's one of the best.
A lot of them bring on UFC because they realize it gets ratings, but they don't know about the sport.
joe rogan
But he was asking me questions like, who's the most legendary MMA fighter of all time?
brendan schaub
Well, excuse me, sir.
That's pretty general.
joe rogan
Well, I know, but I went with Horst Grazer.
Or who's the most important, one of those things?
Who's the biggest star?
I said Hoyce Gracie because he was the original.
Because he changed everything about MMA. He's the pioneer.
brendan schaub
He's the Bruce Lee of our sport.
joe rogan
Changed everything about martial arts with his victories.
unidentified
Correct.
joe rogan
Because everybody had to go, wow, what is he doing?
And then we had to learn it.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Changed it.
brendan schaub
That's fair.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, obviously it was his whole family and his uncle and his dad.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude, I had to do a tribute show to Kimbo Slice for Spike.
Dude, and they were asking me, like, the, you know, I'm going to get flack for this, but they asked me for the Mount Rushmore, and I said, you can't be up there without Kimbo Slice for what he did on YouTube, stuff like that.
joe rogan
Good kick to the body.
brendan schaub
Dude, I started crying so bad as fucking, I don't know what they're going to do with it, but.
joe rogan
Well, I wouldn't agree with that as far as a Mount Rushmore, but I would definitely agree with it as far as a guy who is super important for the overall picture of what MMA is and the difference between backyard fighters and MMA fighters.
And then a guy like Kimbo, who was a backyard fighter, but then became a legit MMA fighter.
bryan callen
That's what his significance is.
You can be somebody in your backyard, and if you have the skills or the personality or something, the magic...
You can make it to the biggest.
joe rogan
Bossy's connecting with some serious right hands.
brendan schaub
Bossy's gonna knock him out.
joe rogan
Spitting back fist now.
brendan schaub
O'Connell's on Queer Street.
joe rogan
O'Connell with the left hand!
Oh my god.
unidentified
Fuck's sakes.
bryan callen
This is crazy.
joe rogan
This is crazy.
Oh, look at that.
They're high-fiving.
We're beating the fuck out of each other.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but keep going.
Keep going.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Don't do that.
Taking a breather here.
brendan schaub
Yeah, don't do that.
joe rogan
Oh, chaos.
bryan callen
Oh my god.
This is crazy.
joe rogan
Oh, nice left hand.
Oh, Kyle's got a very nice left hand.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he does.
He's been laying it all night.
joe rogan
He mixes it up between like a half a jab and a hook.
bryan callen
It's like Michael Jai Smith or whatever.
brendan schaub
Easy.
joe rogan
Jai White.
bryan callen
Jai White.
unidentified
God damn it.
bryan callen
I meant Jai White.
brendan schaub
Michael J. Smith?
bryan callen
I call him Smith.
It's my nickname for him.
And by the way, and by the way, hey, dude.
Hey, dude.
brendan schaub
You're talking about Jaden Smith?
bryan callen
Do me a favor.
Mind your P's and Q's around.
joe rogan
When is Tony Baltimore fighting Habib Nurmagomedov?
No, Ferguson.
bryan callen
Ferguson.
joe rogan
Different riot.
bryan callen
You get the wrong riot.
Oh shit, that's good.
That's good.
brendan schaub
We're throwing spinning shit, huh?
joe rogan
One of the greatest Nick Diaz quotes of all time.
unidentified
Ever!
brendan schaub
Oh, we're throwing spinach shit now.
joe rogan
Oh my god, they were gonna high-five again.
Bossy's like loving high-fiving dudes.
brendan schaub
No, quit fucking high-fiving and killing each other.
unidentified
He likes it.
joe rogan
He's enjoying himself.
It's the time of his life.
unidentified
Come on, boys.
brendan schaub
He can't keep high-fiving.
joe rogan
Look, dude, that guy looks fucking fresh.
Look how good a shape he's in.
Third round, he's moving light on his feet.
brendan schaub
And he's ate some shots.
bryan callen
Amazing.
brendan schaub
Who calls noses in pieces.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a mess.
But look at Bossy.
Nice movement.
unidentified
Relaxed.
brendan schaub
He is moving around.
He's also catching his breath right now.
joe rogan
He is, but still.
unidentified
Body shot.
joe rogan
But speed, man.
He's punching well.
This fight is fucking crazy.
brendan schaub
This is some rock'em, sock'em.
bryan callen
Dude.
joe rogan
This is like a candidate for fight of the year, am I wrong?
bryan callen
Oh my god.
It's like Rocky V. Certainly brawl of the year.
brendan schaub
I'm three wines deep.
I don't know, Joe, but from the three wine glasses, yes, you're right.
bryan callen
Certainly the brawl of the year.
joe rogan
Oh!
brendan schaub
When was Rory and fucking...
That was a while ago, though.
That was a year ago, I think.
joe rogan
See, these fights like this, I think we should all have a button at home that we can press.
We just say, no decision.
No one can lose this fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
No one can lose this fight.
America just spoke, neither one of you guys...
Oh, that elbow!
There's no way either guy is a fucking loser.
brendan schaub
Well, they're getting the Fight of the Night bonus for sure.
bryan callen
Guys are taking this pain.
joe rogan
Unless someone stops someone, if this fight ends right now, the way this is going, how the fuck do you pick a winner this goddamn fight?
It's not fair.
unidentified
I don't know.
bryan callen
I don't know.
unidentified
Easy.
brendan schaub
Life isn't fair.
bryan callen
It's a draw.
joe rogan
How do you feel, Eddie?
eddie bravo
Eeny, meeny, miny, miny.
unidentified
It's easy.
bryan callen
You got to do any money memo.
I don't want to hear you say Michael J. White again.
brendan schaub
I like Spawn.
bryan callen
Don't put his name in your mouth.
joe rogan
You can look at total strikes, obviously, round one and round two.
One for O'Connell, one for Bossy, but you can't just calculate all the strikes all together.
Look at that.
bryan callen
That's a switch right there, kids.
brendan schaub
They should both make an agreement, no wrestling.
joe rogan
There's still Gangster in it.
unidentified
Look at this.
bryan callen
Look at this.
joe rogan
Oh, right hand on the brake.
bryan callen
Look at this.
brendan schaub
Looking at the clock.
bryan callen
50 seconds left here, kids.
eddie bravo
I think they both said enough.
I think they could stop it now.
bryan callen
I'm liking these guys.
These guys are friends after this.
Isn't that ironic?
eddie bravo
I don't want to see anyone.
bryan callen
Every time they see each other, they hug each other for the rest of their lives.
brendan schaub
Depends who wins.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Oh!
eddie bravo
Jesus Christ!
bryan callen
Who wins?
Nobody's winning.
brendan schaub
Oh no, the refs will get it.
unidentified
They both won.
brendan schaub
I bet you money Basse wins this fight.
bryan callen
Really?
brendan schaub
You want to bet?
joe rogan
O'Connell's a Terminator.
bryan callen
Well, he's fighting in Canada.
Exactly.
I believe Basse won.
joe rogan
But he's fighting in Canada.
brendan schaub
Sure you don't want to bet over there, Eddie?
You're pretty quiet.
eddie bravo
Oh, you want to bet right now?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I got Basse.
unidentified
How much you got?
eddie bravo
Anything you want?
It's bad right now.
10,000?
15,000?
brendan schaub
Are you serious, Eddie?
eddie bravo
A truckload of your shirt.
bryan callen
Oh!
brendan schaub
Bro, I think you're on.
You know what?
You had surgery.
I'm going to give you the free pass.
joe rogan
This is too easy.
unidentified
This fight is insane.
brendan schaub
Look at this.
unidentified
Come on.
brendan schaub
This is too easy.
joe rogan
You know what?
I'm your friend.
bryan callen
Oh, my God!
eddie bravo
Oh, my goodness.
unidentified
Fuck!
eddie bravo
That's a fucking fight.
15,000.
brendan schaub
No, I got Baze.
eddie bravo
I got Baze.
brendan schaub
Well, fuck.
bryan callen
I got Baze, too.
Because of peer pressure.
brendan schaub
Hey, back to Kimbo.
All I was saying is what he did, because he brought in the average fan from YouTube to mixed martial arts.
That's why he's a big deal.
joe rogan
What a fight.
brendan schaub
My mom knew who Kimbo was from the YouTube videos.
joe rogan
I definitely see that point.
brendan schaub
That's all I'm saying.
joe rogan
I definitely see he's an important figure.
I just wouldn't say- How many people are Mount Rushmore?
Mount Rushmore is only like- Four or five?
brendan schaub
No, my Mount Rushmore- Oh, it's four.
eddie bravo
Okay, Hoyce is one.
brendan schaub
No, my Mount Rushmore- Hold on.
joe rogan
It's supposed to be five?
unidentified
I think, I believe so.
bryan callen
Yeah, I forget who the fifth was.
joe rogan
Who is supposed to be number five?
unidentified
I'll lock it up real quick.
joe rogan
How about we put Ronald motherfucking Reagan in and say it's done.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at that.
eddie bravo
Oh, man.
You guys are Ronald Reagan fans?
brendan schaub
Let's put Obama on that bitch.
joe rogan
He's in a movie with a monkey.
bryan callen
We can all agree.
joe rogan
We just say no.
bryan callen
I'm a Reagan fan.
I don't care what anybody says.
He's a real man.
joe rogan
Fox News put him to sleep when he was a baby.
bryan callen
I'm not a Fox News guy.
joe rogan
He hypnotized him.
bryan callen
I'm not a Fox News guy.
I'm just a libertarian.
unidentified
I might have made that up.
bryan callen
I might have made that up.
brendan schaub
There's four, right?
joe rogan
I love saying that.
jamie vernon
There's definitely four, but I thought there might have been a fifth.
joe rogan
Maybe they were thinking about that initially.
brendan schaub
Can you name the four, Brian?
You fucking better be able to name the four.
joe rogan
Is that Johnny Depp on a motorcycle?
brendan schaub
Mount Rushmore.
joe rogan
Is this Johnny Depp on a motorcycle?
brendan schaub
No, Johnny Depp's off everything right now.
You can't be hitting bitches and do commercials.
eddie bravo
There's a clip of Ronald Reagan.
bryan callen
I'm going to go with Washington.
joe rogan
Is that really him?
brendan schaub
Abe Lincoln.
That's not him, Joe.
bryan callen
That's Harley Davidson.
joe rogan
I was like, I don't think that's...
brendan schaub
You can't have Jack Spare on Harley Davidson.
bryan callen
Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt.
brendan schaub
That's four.
There's only four.
bryan callen
And Lincoln.
Is that right?
brendan schaub
I think he's right.
bryan callen
Am I right?
eddie bravo
I got it.
joe rogan
I got it.
bryan callen
That's amazing.
brendan schaub
You major in history.
bryan callen
It doesn't matter.
I can't believe I got it.
I don't think about it.
brendan schaub
There's four.
bryan callen
I got lucky on that one, guys.
brendan schaub
So if you're talking MMA, you got Hoist Gracie.
joe rogan
For sure.
brendan schaub
Chuck Liddell.
joe rogan
If you got Chocodale, you have to have Rampage.
See, that's why you can't have a...
brendan schaub
What do you have, Tito?
joe rogan
Anderson Silva, GSP. You have to have Randy, you have to have Tito.
brendan schaub
You have to have GSP. And then you got Anderson Silva.
joe rogan
You have to have BJ Penn.
brendan schaub
Then you got Kimbo.
joe rogan
You got BJ Penn.
See, you got a lot of...
eddie bravo
How many guys are those?
joe rogan
Too many.
brendan schaub
That's eight.
joe rogan
There's no way you can have a Mal Rushmore.
brendan schaub
You gotta have Fedor on there and Crow Cop.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
You gotta have Fedor.
If you have to pick Thor- You want of all time?
brendan schaub
You got Wanderlei on that, bitch.
joe rogan
100%.
Fuck you.
brendan schaub
Shogun might be- Shogun.
joe rogan
I was just gonna say that.
And maybe even Ninja.
brendan schaub
How dare you.
Come on, we're dropping legends, and then you drop Ninja.
joe rogan
Before he tried to fight Sergei Karotanov, he was a bad motherfucker for quite a few years.
brendan schaub
Bro, but compared to Shogun?
unidentified
That's true.
brendan schaub
His brother?
joe rogan
His brother's definitely far more accomplished.
That's a hard loss.
Yeah, you know what, man?
It's Canada.
The fans won.
bryan callen
That's a hard loss, bro.
brendan schaub
We all won.
joe rogan
Fan ones, man.
brendan schaub
We all won.
joe rogan
We won, man.
bryan callen
That's a hard loss.
brendan schaub
At least he has that sweet tattoo.
joe rogan
Connell is a bad mother.
You are a mean person.
brendan schaub
I'm being dead fucking serious.
That shit is sick.
I wish my brown ass could get that color.
joe rogan
I feel very uncomfortable about him hearing this.
Look at this.
bryan callen
That's a caramel rub.
joe rogan
Some people did not want a fifth face to be carved in 1935. Susan B. Anthony.
Many people thought that Susan B. Anthony should be at a bunch of fucking guys trying to get laid.
What did she do?
unidentified
For real, a bunch of fucking- Susan B. Anthony- Get you on that Mount Rushmore girl.
bryan callen
She was a suffragette.
unidentified
I'd like to come up here and suck my dick.
Susan B. Anthony- Susan B. Anthony was- What's wrong with her?
joe rogan
Terrible people, that's what's wrong with her.
Boom, boom!
bryan callen
She was the first feminist.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Boom, boom!
brendan schaub
You can't have her on Mount Rushmore.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Boom!
Look at this one left, and then this is the one that shuts the lights off.
bryan callen
I mean, the dude went limp.
brendan schaub
Is that a 10-8 round?
joe rogan
He's so tough.
bryan callen
He's so tough?
joe rogan
It's weird.
Yeah, that's gotta be 10-8.
brendan schaub
It has to be a 10-8.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know what is and isn't anymore, man.
brendan schaub
Who knows with these fucking refs?
joe rogan
Judges.
But I don't think it's done the right way.
I don't think we should have a 10-point system.
I think it should be like 100 points or something like that.
We should figure it out.
Or 30 points.
This should be a bunch of points where it's not 10-9 all the time.
brendan schaub
You can't have 10-9, especially with the grappling and the submission.
It doesn't make sense.
Especially if I'm going to get off my back and I'm constantly having the guy in danger.
Or if I'm a counter wrestler.
joe rogan
By the way, this is not saying we disagree with this decision, right?
I don't disagree with it.
brendan schaub
Like I said, I'm three winds deep.
I don't know.
unidentified
It could have easily won two rounds.
eddie bravo
Finish only MMA. What do you think about that?
brendan schaub
Sir, no.
joe rogan
Do you hate ratings?
eddie bravo
If there's no knockout, if there's no submissions...
bryan callen
Wait, what if you had grappling judges and striking judges?
brendan schaub
No, how about you have MMA judges?
Fuck all that.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, he's right.
brendan schaub
You have ex-fighters as judges.
joe rogan
That's what you need.
Here's what you want.
You want Matt Hume, who judged for pride?
Matt Hume is who you should have judging.
There's a handful of guys like him.
bryan callen
Like Dwayne Ludwig, Matt Hume, and Duke Rufus.
joe rogan
Dwayne Ludwig is another great example.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, have people that have a full understanding of MMA. Yes.
brendan schaub
You imagine if B.J. Penn was a judge with his knowledge of MMA? Phenomenal.
Fuck you.
joe rogan
Or all, think of amazing, Rich Franklin.
bryan callen
Why'd he turn on me?
joe rogan
Think of Rich Franklin.
brendan schaub
Rich Franklin.
One of the greats.
joe rogan
You know, Jens Pulver.
Think about how many great fighters that don't fight anymore but have a deep knowledge of MMA. Yes.
brendan schaub
Should be judging.
bryan callen
Why are they not, why are they?
brendan schaub
He's better than we got now.
unidentified
Who?
brendan schaub
Dada.
He knows MMA better than the other guys.
bryan callen
Why don't they reach out to those guys?
joe rogan
Commission, son.
They'd have to fire somebody and they'd have to do.
eddie bravo
Nobody's getting fired.
joe rogan
These are government jobs.
brendan schaub
This fight's a motherfucker.
This fight's dangerous for cowboy men.
bryan callen
That's my boyfriend right there.
brendan schaub
Kote's big and his heart is fucked.
joe rogan
He does.
And Kote's bigger.
He's a black belt.
He's a black belt.
Yes, he is.
bryan callen
Come on, Donald.
joe rogan
But I was impressed when he fought Ben and almost caught him in an arm bar from the bottom.
And I was thinking that.
Cote is a crafty guy that doesn't sit still.
bryan callen
He's been fighting a long time.
joe rogan
But he keeps getting better.
brendan schaub
He also hits hard as fuck.
joe rogan
He definitely does.
He doesn't rest on his laurels.
And if you watch him fight now, he fights much more technical.
He doesn't unload big bombs.
Sometimes.
Well, he does with Ben.
He caught Ben, and he hit him with a ton of uppercuts.
But he's been fighting more technical than he did early in his days.
brendan schaub
He's harnessing that power.
Yeah, he's getting better.
He's a veteran now.
That motherfucker fought for a title.
Remember that?
joe rogan
I fought Anderson motherfucking Silva.
brendan schaub
Anderson in his prime.
joe rogan
Yep.
bryan callen
Well, Donald's my boyfriend, so you guys can shut up.
brendan schaub
It's a tough fight for Donald, man.
unidentified
It is a tough fight.
It really is.
brendan schaub
It's not a kick-lock.
joe rogan
It's a tough fight for both guys.
unidentified
Both of them.
joe rogan
Donald is no joke at 170 either, man.
brendan schaub
Fuck, no.
joe rogan
I like him healthy.
brendan schaub
Donald has more tools.
joe rogan
Yep.
He's nasty off of his back.
His kickboxing is legit as fuck.
brendan schaub
You know what scares me?
You know what scares me?
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
It's Donald, when he fights good boxers, struggles.
And even Donald admits it.
He goes, I go forward or backwards.
I don't take angles.
And when you're facing a guy who has good boxing, you're in trouble, man.
joe rogan
I hear a guy like him say that, and I gotta assume that he's working on that.
I gotta assume if he's telling you that, that he's trying to get better at it.
But you always gotta guess where a guy's at based on his previous performances.
So if you look at his previous performances, Nate Diaz was a really troublesome fight for him.
He had a really hard time, particularly in the first round.
brendan schaub
And what can Nate do?
joe rogan
Box his ass off.
Box really well.
But I also think there was some emotional stuff going on in that fight.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
Because Nate talked him into a comb.
100%.
Nate knocked his hat off.
I agree.
And Cowboy's a nice guy.
Like, if you see Cowboy when he was lining up to fight Cote, like the weigh-ins, they were real friendly.
brendan schaub
I didn't see it.
joe rogan
Cowboy's a real friendly guy.
brendan schaub
Really friendly guy.
joe rogan
He's a really, really good guy.
He's a really good guy.
So he doesn't want, he doesn't need or want to hate you before you fight.
brendan schaub
He doesn't need animosity like the Diaz brothers.
joe rogan
But I think Nate, Nate really got in his head with that shit and it was like, wow.
brendan schaub
Fought emotional.
joe rogan
I mean, this guy was like, Nate's super disrespectful when he's going to fight you, and it's part of the strategy.
brendan schaub
He makes it personal.
joe rogan
Yep, and to make you think about it, because it makes your emotions ramp up, it makes you tight.
brendan schaub
Makes you make mistakes.
joe rogan
Yeah, makes you make mistakes.
brendan schaub
They're brilliant at it, man.
joe rogan
It's very smart.
brendan schaub
They're brilliant at it.
joe rogan
Well, Connor did that.
He's great at that.
Do you like that?
Because I go back and forth, man, because I see Jose Aldo.
I love shit-talking when it's done really well.
But you know what I don't like?
It seems like a lot of people are trying to do that now.
brendan schaub
They weren't doing that before.
I hate it, brother.
You know why, though?
Because the guys who do it are making more money.
And they're getting more fame.
So now, guys, it's not in their personality.
It's not in their demeanor.
And they're trying to do it.
It's like, God.
Goddamn, that is fake.
It's not good.
But that's what you get when you award that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Because everyone mimics.
The same as NFL. The NFL mimics, everyone mimics.
eddie bravo
Are you willing to trade off fan support for cash?
That's what it really is.
Because once you start talking shit...
brendan schaub
But if it's not your thing, it's embarrassing.
eddie bravo
Generally, guys, people aren't into that.
Generally, it turns people off.
brendan schaub
I don't know about that.
joe rogan
Eddie, do you think Conor never turned anybody off?
brendan schaub
Name the most famous fighters in the world.
Floyd Mayweather, the biggest shit talker of all time.
Conor McGregor, shit talker.
Brock Lesnar, shit talker.
Think about it.
joe rogan
Conor put everything together.
He had incredible performances and he talked mad shit.
How about Chael Sonnen?
brendan schaub
Chael Sonnen was great at talking shit.
Not that great of a fighter, to be honest.
joe rogan
Well, he was a good fighter, but he wasn't good enough to be...
A world champ.
He came so close against Anderson.
brendan schaub
I know, Joe, but what got him to that point?
That shit-talking.
joe rogan
The shit-talking, but also the performances against Nate Marquardt.
You can't say that that was a very impressive performance.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying he's not a great fighter.
I'm just saying, with his shit-talking, it definitely added him.
Chael's phenomenal.
Phenomenal athlete.
Great fighter.
I'm just saying, with his personality and his shit-talking, it elevated him.
joe rogan
But I think when a guy like Conor does something that he did, knock out Jose Aldo in 13 seconds.
He called it.
It's a different thing.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
It's special.
Yeah, his wins were a different thing.
brendan schaub
But then it backfires, because when you lose, you get it tenfold.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
And everybody's going to get lined up.
eddie bravo
That's the price, but you know what?
Fuck it.
You make that money.
brendan schaub
Your bank account and the fame, it helps.
eddie bravo
But look at guys like Randy Couture.
When he loses, people are like, fuck, you're still a bad motherfucker.
No one hates him.
brendan schaub
Those Randy Couture days are over, my brother.
Connor changed the entire game.
eddie bravo
Nah, there's a lot of guys in there.
unidentified
Oh, I disagree.
brendan schaub
There's always guys that don't talk shit.
joe rogan
George St. Pierre, he comes back.
brendan schaub
He's not fighting anymore.
joe rogan
But if he was...
brendan schaub
Those days are over.
joe rogan
But do you understand that if George St. Pierre is a beautiful man who's a great fighter, he's got so much going on, he's respectful, he wears nice suits, he would still sell like crazy today.
brendan schaub
I agree, Joe.
joe rogan
And he would still sell like crazy if he came up today and he wasn't that guy.
brendan schaub
Because he was a huge star before.
Honestly, name someone right now who's currently fighting in the UFC, who's quiet and is a superstar.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
Well, the superstars are Ronda and Conor.
eddie bravo
No, but you've got to look at the extremes.
joe rogan
John Jones is on the brink of superstardom.
If John Jones can get past Cormier and they get record numbers for UFC 200 and it becomes a gigantic event, John Jones is at the door.
brendan schaub
He's a superstar because he has great talent, but he's also in the headlines for bad shit.
He's making headlines.
joe rogan
But sometimes that...
I mean, if you want to talk about what makes someone a famous person, sometimes that's almost as important in this goofy society as someone being a shit-talker.
eddie bravo
But look at a guy like...
brendan schaub
Because you're making headlines.
eddie bravo
Is Uriah Faber a shit-talker or not?
I don't think he is.
I think he's super honest.
brendan schaub
He's an old-school guy.
eddie bravo
When you hear Uriah Faber talking about an upcoming fight, he never...
brendan schaub
He's an old school guy.
He's not a huge draw anymore, Eddie.
He's an old school guy.
He's from the old past.
unidentified
He's still in the mix.
eddie bravo
Come on, Uriah Faber's still right up there in the mix.
joe rogan
There's a reason why they had Uriah versus Dominic Cruz, and it wasn't just because Uriah's been doing really well.
It was also because they know Uriah can sell some fucking pay-per-views.
eddie bravo
100% California kid.
brendan schaub
All I'm saying is name a superstar who doesn't talk shit.
That's all I'm saying.
eddie bravo
That's Uriah Faber.
joe rogan
He's a superstar.
He's old school.
eddie bravo
Dude, he's not old school.
brendan schaub
He's been doing it.
eddie bravo
Uriah Faber is a superstar right now.
joe rogan
Let's define superstar.
Is it a UFC world champion, pay-per-view draw?
brendan schaub
No, just pay-per-view draw.
joe rogan
Just pay-per-view draw.
Who's been a pay-per-view draw besides Uriah that's not a world champion in the UFC? Anderson Silva don't talk shit.
No, but who?
Who's ever been a pay-per-view star that's never been a world champion in the UFC? Is there one?
brendan schaub
Conor McGregor.
joe rogan
No, Conor McGregor knocked out Aldo.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but when he fought Nate Diaz, he was a world champ at 170. But it doesn't matter.
joe rogan
He was a world champ at 145. He had beaten Jose Aldo.
brendan schaub
He was one of the best pound-for-pound fighters of all time.
But 170 wasn't for the weight cards.
joe rogan
It didn't matter.
Nate's not a 170. Brock Lesnar.
He fought a couple of times at 170. Damien DeMaio.
That's the answer.
But he won the world championship.
It's the wrong answer.
unidentified
Years ago?
joe rogan
It doesn't matter, bro.
He won the heavyweight title.
brendan schaub
You're saying currently.
joe rogan
Who hasn't been?
unidentified
Who hasn't?
joe rogan
Hasn't been.
There's not one.
So Uriah Faber's the only guy in consideration.
If you think about a guy who's a legit star, who's never won a UFC title, who can sell pay-per-views, Uriah might be the only guy.
brendan schaub
Uriah won a WC title, but yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but nobody in the UFC that has come along in these years who's not a giant, crazy Fight Pass fan has likely seen those fights.
It's hard because you don't see those.
When they show those UFC countdown shows, you see highlights from them and shit, but you don't really see WECs on TV. True.
eddie bravo
A lot of dudes do talk shit, but it's fighting.
It's natural.
brendan schaub
Cerrone's a bit of a withdrawal, not a world champ.
joe rogan
Cerrone's a good call.
eddie bravo
He doesn't really talk shit.
joe rogan
He's gotten close a couple times.
unidentified
He gets there.
eddie bravo
That's just regular fighting shit.
joe rogan
But, you know, he doesn't get the kind of, like, numbers.
He was actually talking about that.
He did an interview recently where he was talking about how he'd rather fight Nate than Diaz, or Nate Diaz rather than Conor, because it doesn't matter to him whether it's for the world title or not.
He still gets the same amount of money.
Like, whether he's fighting, he doesn't get pay-per-view.
brendan schaub
He doesn't care about being a world champion.
joe rogan
He just wants to fight the best guy.
He wants to fight a guy who he wants to fight, and I guess he wants to get back at Nate because he fought Nate before.
brendan schaub
Because he beat him.
That makes sense.
joe rogan
Nate beat him, and he doesn't feel like he fought his best.
That's also why Cowboy's such a badass, because he just wants challenges.
That's what he gravitates towards.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
That's why, I mean, he's a small 170, dude.
Paul Felder looked bigger than him the other day when we were hanging out at the Comedy Store.
unidentified
That's true.
joe rogan
By like a few pounds.
bryan callen
That's true.
joe rogan
Like maybe ten.
bryan callen
Well, he was.
Felder was in the high 80s when we saw him.
And Donald was 176. Here's one for you.
brendan schaub
Max Holloway won nine in a row.
Doesn't talk an ounce of shit.
joe rogan
You don't think at nine in a row?
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he also...
brendan schaub
That's the bad part to it.
eddie bravo
In England right now, in the UK, he could headline a UK show, right?
brendan schaub
Max Holloway?
You mean Hawaii, motherfucker.
eddie bravo
Oh, is he?
joe rogan
I thought he was from the UK. No, John Holloway.
You're thinking of John Hathaway.
eddie bravo
Okay.
brendan schaub
You're thinking of John Hathaway.
joe rogan
John Hathaway.
eddie bravo
No, no, I'm not thinking of John Hathaway.
bryan callen
Who's John Hathaway?
I have no idea.
brendan schaub
I think of Anne Hathaway.
bryan callen
I think of Anne Hathaway.
joe rogan
I thought Anne Hathaway was the UK this whole time.
brendan schaub
I made up one of those UFC fights.
You mixed it up, you mixed it up.
It's John Hathaway and there's Max Holloway.
unidentified
The skinny guy.
He's Hawaiian as fuck and he's won nine in a row.
Give him a fucking title shot.
joe rogan
Dude, Max Holloway is so gangster.
brendan schaub
He's so fucking good.
joe rogan
Max Holloway is so gangster.
brendan schaub
Nine in a fucking row and beat the who's who.
eddie bravo
Dude, his Hawaiian accent is so fucking thick.
He sounds like he's from Liverpool.
joe rogan
No, get the fuck out of here.
You know what it is, though?
If you pay attention to flags, they're confusing because a lot of people don't realize Hawaii has its own flag.
unidentified
He couldn't look any more Hawaiian.
joe rogan
Hawaii comes with a flag that looks like a British flag.
unidentified
In a weird way.
joe rogan
Because no one in South Dakota comes in with a fucking South Dakota flag.
That is one of the more proof positive things.
That Hawaii is like an occupied country.
We have taken over Hawaii and decided, you know what?
You motherfuckers are just a little too close.
We would like to control you since you're in the middle of the ocean.
It's not a good idea to let an enemy...
Live here five hours by plane from fucking Los Angeles.
So we're just going to own you.
So that's what Hawaii is, man.
There's a lot of Hawaiians that want Hawaiian independence.
To that, I would say, settle down.
unidentified
Settle down.
joe rogan
Everyone settle down.
We will respect you deeply as your own nation.
Let's keep this one fucking together.
bryan callen
And you love yourself some Hawaii.
joe rogan
I love Hawaii.
I love Hawaiian people.
unidentified
I'm gonna go on vacation.
brendan schaub
I've never been.
joe rogan
I'm probably gonna die there in the sense that when I'm an old man, I'm gonna move there.
brendan schaub
You and me both.
bryan callen
I've never been there.
joe rogan
I love it.
brendan schaub
Fuck, it's the best.
joe rogan
And you know what?
Everybody that tells me, the people that tell me that they go there and the Hawaiians treat them bad, that the Hawaiians are racist, they're all Yeah, I've never had that issue.
brendan schaub
They couldn't be any friendly.
eddie bravo
They couldn't be any nicer.
brendan schaub
They take me in like I'm fucking Lilo and Stitch.
Did you have a hard time?
It's the best.
eddie bravo
I went to, for a wedding, we went to, me and my wife went to a wedding out there.
One of her friends got married on the Big Island.
It was like the Hilo side.
And then there's another side.
There's a Hilo side that BJ is very popular in.
And then the other side, they're like rivals.
And we were on the side that was like rivaling BJ. Oh no.
I was watching the UFC on my phone during the wedding.
I didn't know anybody.
And everybody that lived there was like white people that moved there.
They all said, do not go out at night.
Do not go out.
brendan schaub
You're talking about the Howleys.
eddie bravo
Yeah, if you go out at night locally to any of these bars, you're going to get fucked.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, you don't go to a bar.
Well you also don't go to a bar in Studio City.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Would you go to a bar in Studio City?
brendan schaub
I go to a bar in Studio City.
Dude, I went to the bars in Hawaii.
eddie bravo
They're cool as fuck.
brendan schaub
You're nine feet tall.
bryan callen
You also look Hawaiian, bro.
brendan schaub
Come on.
unidentified
They're not going to fuck with you.
bryan callen
You look Hawaiian.
You're a beast.
joe rogan
And you've got chipmunks living inside your ears.
eddie bravo
You've got a massive tank top on.
unidentified
Come on, man.
bryan callen
Who's going to fuck with you?
brendan schaub
Everyone knows Eddie Bravo.
joe rogan
It's a good point.
unidentified
You know what?
eddie bravo
The locals said, don't go to the bar.
bryan callen
You don't want to go surfing.
joe rogan
Let me tell you one thing, because you get a lot of heat online sometimes.
I do?
Yeah, man.
Because you talk a lot of shit on the podcast, people understand that this is like elevated conversation.
In real life, you get along with everybody.
brendan schaub
Everyone.
joe rogan
Everybody.
bryan callen
Brendan?
Everybody.
joe rogan
I mean, you're one of those guys, like, everybody you meet, everyone's hugging everybody.
bryan callen
Everywhere I go, he's also very compassionate to all people.
He's a softie.
joe rogan
You just talk mad shit.
And you gotta settle down.
Why settle down?
Do you hate ratings?
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Okay, Cote.
Cowboy.
bryan callen
Donald looks good.
joe rogan
Donald with the takedown!
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at that takedown by Donald.
He actually has really good wrestling.
joe rogan
Dude, and Patrick Cote has good jiu-jitsu, man.
He's very sneaky off his back.
eddie bravo
Cerrone has really good jiu-jitsu.
brendan schaub
He does.
He has dangerous jiu-jitsu.
His submissions are nasty.
bryan callen
Cerrone's been top five for ten years.
eddie bravo
He has like 13 triangles.
joe rogan
Some ridiculous.
brendan schaub
He throws it so fucking fast to him.
eddie bravo
He probably has more triangles than anybody in the UFC ever.
joe rogan
Well, if you think about it, all the fights in the WEC, one of the things that you and I talked about a lot, Eddie, is that he was a great example of a guy why it's important if you're a good kicker to have a nasty guard.
Because he didn't give a fuck if you took him down.
So he would throw these nasty-ass head kicks, and if you took him down, oh shit, where'd that triangle come from?
brendan schaub
Well, and then he talked about when he fought Diaz, he was saying how he was embarrassed because he was so afraid to go to the ground with him.
I was like, what the fuck's wrong with you?
Believe in your jiu-jitsu, man.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
eddie bravo
But Diaz's jiu-jitsu is pretty fucking high level.
unidentified
It is.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you, Cowboys is fucking good, man.
eddie bravo
Anybody should be worried.
joe rogan
It is.
brendan schaub
But you shouldn't not go down there.
joe rogan
No, but here's the deal.
A guy like Diaz could tap Cowboy.
He's one of the few guys that could tap Cowboy.
And I'm not saying that Cowboy could tap him.
Step over.
Very good position.
Good position!
unidentified
Me!
bryan callen
Look at this.
Look at this.
Cowboy's so bad.
unidentified
I love him.
joe rogan
That transition got him up.
eddie bravo
That transition got him up.
bryan callen
Look at Cowboy just standing there taking it.
eddie bravo
He created a scramble from a full guard.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, he did.
That's the perfect scramble too, right?
brendan schaub
Cowboy just can't trade with Cote.
joe rogan
It's a beautiful slate at all.
eddie bravo
Either you get the omoplata or you stand up.
joe rogan
Or you get to side control.
It was beautiful.
If it works out.
brendan schaub
Cowboy's gonna have a speed advantage, but the power scares me.
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing where Cowboy shines is with his fucking leg kicks, man.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
That's where he ate up Eddie Alvarez.
And that's where he started to turn the tide on Nate Diaz.
He started tacking that heavy front foot.
Fucking that leg up.
He started fucking up that front foot.
Cowboy has nasty leg kicks, man.
brendan schaub
It's just the power cocaine.
It scares the fuck out of me with Donald.
unidentified
Oh!
bryan callen
God!
Cowboy with the takedown!
joe rogan
What scares you?
unidentified
What scares you?
brendan schaub
The power of Cote.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Because when Donald gets comfortable, he stands upright.
He doesn't move his head.
joe rogan
Everybody's got to worry about Cote.
eddie bravo
I don't think Cote expected takedowns at all.
I think that was the last thing on his mind.
He comes very prepared.
Cote comes prepared.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you, Cowboy for...
Three, four years, moved basically to Denver for six months and just trained with Lister Bollinger in wrestling.
Non-stop.
You wrestle every single day.
joe rogan
You look good there, man.
I'm telling you.
unidentified
He looks great.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you he can fucking wrestle.
bryan callen
Damn.
brendan schaub
He can wrestle, man.
joe rogan
His jiu-jitsu leaves no space.
He's got real tight body-to-body jiu-jitsu.
bryan callen
God, does he ever.
brendan schaub
He has dangerous jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
Yeah, he very much does.
brendan schaub
It's so explosive.
It's hard to train for, man.
joe rogan
God damn.
eddie bravo
And wrestling helps your jiu-jitsu so god damn.
brendan schaub
100%.
bryan callen
God damn.
brendan schaub
You know this.
eddie bravo
It's not about the wrestling moves.
It's about the base, the stability, the balance, all that shit into your jiu-jitsu.
It just gives you so much.
bryan callen
Brendan, when you train with Donald, does he just pick up things very quickly?
Is that what it is?
Oh, look at this!
unidentified
He's at the back!
brendan schaub
He trains so much.
joe rogan
Oh, he's taking the back, dude.
bryan callen
He trains a lot.
joe rogan
He's just underrated, man.
It's all he likes to do.
bryan callen
He's underrated.
unidentified
He's a beast.
brendan schaub
It's literally all he does.
eddie bravo
Just grapple?
brendan schaub
He just trains all fucking time to jump off boats and cows and shit.
joe rogan
Dude, he's got his neck!
eddie bravo
He's got his neck!
bryan callen
Oh my god, Donald Cerrone, you bad motherfucker.
eddie bravo
Goddamn.
bryan callen
Damn, he's a bad motherfucker.
I wish I was cage-sized so I could throw my underwear in the fucking ring.
joe rogan
He's got the fucking body triangle locked down.
That body triangle is so goddamn nasty.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's long, too.
It controls your breathing.
bryan callen
Don't kid yourself.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, and good underhook.
bryan callen
By the way, he looks pretty much as big as Kotei, actually.
joe rogan
No, he doesn't.
bryan callen
Alright, I don't know, guys.
unidentified
I'm excited.
brendan schaub
He looks more shredded, but he's pretty thin.
joe rogan
Save him unless you've got something funny to say.
brendan schaub
He's pretty thin.
Cowboy's also tan as shit.
bryan callen
He's tan as shit!
unidentified
Saving...
bryan callen
Not like a hot dog.
brendan schaub
Maybe a kielbasa?
joe rogan
A kielbasa?
brendan schaub
He's not basé tan.
He's not Hulk Hogan hot dog skin.
joe rogan
Is he like a roasted pork sausage?
bryan callen
Look how relaxed Donald is.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's like a brat.
bryan callen
He's relaxed.
He's got his back.
brendan schaub
He's like a thick guy.
bryan callen
Everybody shut up.
unidentified
Look at this.
brendan schaub
I love a fucking brat.
bryan callen
Come on.
Come on, Dom.
brendan schaub
Brats in the summer?
Fuck you, man.
bryan callen
Look at this.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Looking for it again.
Especially with peppers and onions.
brendan schaub
God, I'm so fucking hungry now.
joe rogan
Me too.
brendan schaub
God.
joe rogan
Let's go eat after this.
bryan callen
I was eating cheese and pickles in the back room.
joe rogan
That's not good enough.
I mean, I need meat.
brendan schaub
Me too.
Do you have beef jerky up in this motherfucker?
joe rogan
I'm sure we got some buffalo bars.
eddie bravo
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Oh, he hit the Kimura!
brendan schaub
Look at this!
eddie bravo
Patrick Cote!
brendan schaub
Oh, shit!
eddie bravo
Oh, shit!
brendan schaub
Stand up, Dom.
joe rogan
Damn, Patrick Cote is so game, man.
He's so goddamn game God um Eddie in inside that show oh, I love this Oh, I love these.
bryan callen
Buffalo bars.
brendan schaub
Hey, remember he's kicking the fuck out of homeboy from San Diego on the ground?
bryan callen
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm talking about?
bryan callen
Yeah.
Story?
unidentified
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
Hold.
unidentified
Hold.
brendan schaub
What the fuck's that kid's name?
Black Belt from San Diego.
Really good jiu-jitsu.
bryan callen
Really good jiu-jitsu.
unidentified
Jury.
bryan callen
Miles Jury.
brendan schaub
It's like you do this for a living, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, it's weird.
brendan schaub
It's weird.
joe rogan
He sent Jury.
I'm not doing it anymore.
He sent Jerry down to 145. This is MMA media.
I'm just trying to bait them.
brendan schaub
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Everything we say becomes some goddamn fake news title story.
brendan schaub
Yeah, what can you do?
joe rogan
You can keep doing what you're doing.
I understand.
I'm not hating them.
I'm friends with a lot of them.
unidentified
Me too.
brendan schaub
They're actually really good guys.
joe rogan
There's a lot of them that are good guys.
brendan schaub
A lot of them suck dick.
A lot of them are pretty cool.
joe rogan
Well, you know what I feel like?
It's also their job.
But I really do feel like this.
A lot of the animosity between MMA media and you and I and a lot of other people...
It would probably be solved if we were actually talking.
Because we would probably have a conversation that wasn't as one-sided as someone writing something shitty about you, you responding in a shitty way, someone writes something to you on Twitter.
bryan callen
It's faceless communication, too.
It's faceless, right?
There's no connection.
joe rogan
There's also an issue with writing something, right?
Because you write something about someone's opinion and there's a lot of assumptions.
You're not communicating with them.
You and I have a dispute about something.
We've had arguments before, but we always resolve them because we're both reasonable and we're friends and we talk and we be friendly.
But if you just wrote a blog about me and I responded with a blog about you, we know each other forever and I love you, but we'd probably be mad at each other.
brendan schaub
But Joe, this is the problem.
bryan callen
That's what I'm saying.
brendan schaub
But the issue becomes if...
unidentified
My inside leg kick by Cerrone!
bryan callen
Cerrone's not playing around.
He's not hearing a fucking peep.
He's not hearing a peep, everybody.
joe rogan
Nice kick to the body by Cerrone.
bryan callen
Cerrone looks bigger than he normally does.
brendan schaub
Joe, with the articles, the thing is, what gets clicks is negativity or headlines.
joe rogan
It's nothing personal.
bryan callen
Cerrone is on point.
joe rogan
He is.
He's on point.
brendan schaub
So you can't take it personal.
joe rogan
But it's not...
I understand in some ways, but I feel like...
brendan schaub
Because it's their job.
joe rogan
But I feel like...
It does as much damage to them as it does to the person they're misrepresenting.
So if they write a story about you and they just- Oh my god, those kicks, dude!
bryan callen
Dude, those kicks are mean!
joe rogan
Oh, and Kote has to come back with one of his own, man.
That's him.
You know, he's a fucking game dude.
brendan schaub
Super game.
bryan callen
He's a lot bigger.
He's a beast.
joe rogan
You just said Donald looks his size.
Will you shut the fuck up?
bryan callen
I know.
I changed my mind, guys.
Guys, I changed my mind.
It's the angle.
It's the angle of fucking camera.
Goddamn these cameras.
brendan schaub
Hey, Kote's also a beast of an analyst, too.
He does a lot of work in Canada.
bryan callen
Just be careful of Michael J. White.
That's all I ask from you.
joe rogan
Michael J. White.
unidentified
You!
eddie bravo
Hey, man!
bryan callen
Buy him drinks and thank him.
brendan schaub
I respect him because of Spawn.
That's it.
bryan callen
You better respect him for his sidekick and his roundhouse.
joe rogan
You know who needs some fucking props who is an awesome analyst?
Yves Edwards.
Goddamn, he's good.
unidentified
Is he?
brendan schaub
I think Tyrone Woodley.
bryan callen
I love Yves Edwards.
joe rogan
Very good, too.
brendan schaub
Woodley's a beast.
unidentified
They're both good.
brendan schaub
Woodley's killing the game right now.
joe rogan
He could be good as well.
unidentified
Oh, no.
joe rogan
You have to not agree with me and bring up another black guy!
unidentified
Because I have my black guy, you have your black guy!
Fucking racist!
joe rogan
Woodley for president!
bryan callen
You guys, a little respect for Donald right now.
unidentified
Oh!
eddie bravo
Uppercut by Kotain!
brendan schaub
I'm telling you that power scares me with Donald.
joe rogan
Look at Donald with the jab.
I like Donald better at 170 because he doesn't have to fucking dry himself out.
bryan callen
He looks great.
brendan schaub
He does look great.
joe rogan
Like a ShamWow.
brendan schaub
And he also has a speed advantage.
joe rogan
Like a ShamWow.
brendan schaub
Dude, you imagine Donald Cerrone vs.
Robbie Lawler?
Fuck you!
unidentified
What?!
joe rogan
Okay, let's not get crazy.
brendan schaub
What?!
What do you mean, not get crazy?
joe rogan
Let's watch this.
brendan schaub
Oh!
joe rogan
Nasty jab!
brendan schaub
I want my other takedown from Donald.
joe rogan
I mean, Donald, all I'm saying by not get crazy is he would have to beat a bunch of guys before that could happen.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
Nasty leg kick!
brendan schaub
Rogan, a bunch of guys.
170 is jabbed.
bryan callen
Look at Donald's jab.
joe rogan
It's almost crazy talking about somebody else fighting Robbie when Robbie is about to fight.
brendan schaub
Nah, that's the way the world works.
joe rogan
I know.
brendan schaub
That's our sport.
joe rogan
100%.
I'm talking shit.
Oh, Donald with the underhook!
brendan schaub
Because Donald's such a big name, I could see him jump into number three!
joe rogan
Look at Patrick Cote trying some fucking Tony Jaa shit.
bryan callen
Shit.
joe rogan
Oh, now we're doing jumping shit.
Oh, damn!
Beautiful combination!
unidentified
Oh, he fucked him up!
joe rogan
He fucked him up!
unidentified
Donald's a beast!
bryan callen
He's on point!
joe rogan
Oh, look at that jab!
bryan callen
He's on point!
brendan schaub
He's too quick for these big boys.
joe rogan
Cote had a counterweight hand there, too, man.
Cote's still dangerous.
brendan schaub
Cote has so much power that's so dangerous.
bryan callen
You keep it down.
Over there, Brendan.
You keep it down.
joe rogan
The thing about Cote, though, to fight the way Cote fights...
bryan callen
Oh my god!
unidentified
Beautiful left hook!
In your face, Canada!
joey diaz
Oh my god!
unidentified
Maple syrup, son.
joe rogan
Don't fuck shit about the flag.
brendan schaub
Maple syrup, son.
bryan callen
Listen, listen, listen.
joe rogan
Goddamn Cerrone.
bryan callen
Don't fuck around.
You sleep on Cerrone.
It's trouble.
joe rogan
Don't shit on the whole country, man.
It's Donald versus Cotex.
unidentified
USA! USA! USA!
joey diaz
Get up!
brendan schaub
Look at him!
unidentified
Oh, man!
Look at him running for him!
No, Donald!
brendan schaub
No, don't get a brawling match.
Don't do that.
Shoot a double.
bryan callen
Look at that jab.
joe rogan
He looks smooth, though.
brendan schaub
Kick him in the face, Donald.
bryan callen
He looks so smooth.
unidentified
Head kick coming up!
bryan callen
Donald has arrived, motherfuckers!
brendan schaub
Excuse me, I'll take a head kick for 3,000, please.
Head kick for 3,000.
eddie bravo
Look at that heart by Cote.
Holy shit.
bryan callen
Cote's rough as shit.
joe rogan
Let's let this play out.
Let's let this play out.
bryan callen
Look at that.
I'll step away from you.
You try that, I'm fucking stepping away.
brendan schaub
I'll take a kick for 3,000, please.
bryan callen
Oh, oh.
All right.
Crazy.
joe rogan
I'm looking for that step in knee.
brendan schaub
I can't wait for this head kick.
joe rogan
I like how Donald defends with that left knee.
brendan schaub
Me too.
joe rogan
He does a real good job of catching guys as they come in.
Oh, that front kick to the body that he used on Jim Miller.
bryan callen
He's so good.
joe rogan
He throws that knee to the body very sparingly.
bryan callen
He just keeps coming in.
joe rogan
Super effective.
bryan callen
He keeps coming in, man.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh!
bryan callen
Oh, man.
Cote's tough.
joe rogan
Cote's like, bring it on.
These Canadians are built from different stuff.
unidentified
Don't get in a brawl match, Cowboys.
joe rogan
Oh, Donald with the quick switch kick high.
brendan schaub
I love that switch kick.
joe rogan
He's got that nice left.
Oh, he's got a nice left switch kick.
bryan callen
Fuck you, man.
joe rogan
I just want to say something while everybody leaves.
Listen, relax.
Brendan's a really nice guy.
This is like fun.
This is fun.
Do you understand?
bryan callen
He's the best.
joe rogan
When he's broadcasting during the fight with the kid, when he's doing this show, it's fun, folks.
bryan callen
Of course.
joe rogan
It's fun.
There's a lot of nerds out there that are freaking out.
They're angry.
bryan callen
Nah, he's the best.
Hey, I'll tell you who defends nerds is Brendan Schaub.
joe rogan
He's a very nice guy.
bryan callen
If you're a nerd and you're getting picked on, Brendan Schaub's going to punch the guy in the face.
joe rogan
He's not fighting anymore, folks.
He's trying to make some hype.
This is how he does it.
bryan callen
That's it.
joe rogan
Okay, just relax.
Everybody relax.
bryan callen
He's a special guy.
joe rogan
Everybody relax.
Enjoy Cote vs.
Cerrone.
You're allowed to disagree and agree.
It's all good.
unidentified
Yep.
It's all good.
joe rogan
But I guarantee you, if you met him in real life, you'd go, oh, he's a good guy.
bryan callen
Yes.
joe rogan
And if you see him on stage with Brian Callen, you're like, yeah, he looks a little nervous up there.
Yeah, of course he's nervous.
He's never fucking done this before.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
Do you understand how weird it is?
These guys are doing the Wilbur Theater in Boston.
Sold out show.
I got the report.
I heard.
You guys sold out to Wilbur.
bryan callen
It's crazy.
joe rogan
For a podcast show.
unidentified
It's crazy.
bryan callen
I don't even know what to say about it.
It's just...
joe rogan
Amazing.
It's fun.
bryan callen
I love it.
I mean, Brennan Schaub, my whole life changes.
I've been in the business forever.
joe rogan
I'm so happy.
bryan callen
Well, you know, you were the one who told me to do a podcast.
joe rogan
I'm so happy.
bryan callen
It's been amazing.
brendan schaub
What'd I miss when we're talking about crocodiles?
joe rogan
We're just talking about you guys.
You guys have such a cool...
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Left hook!
bryan callen
Oh my god!
unidentified
Again!
bryan callen
He just won this round.
brendan schaub
He's too quick, son.
bryan callen
He just won this round, dude.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
brendan schaub
Did you say won this round?
unidentified
It's 30 seconds in.
bryan callen
I know, Brian.
Doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Both of you pour me another drink like a woman.
Make me eggs.
unidentified
Fuck.
bryan callen
I'm not your concubine, you son of a bitch.
unidentified
Oh, oh!
bryan callen
Look at this!
He'll get out!
Look at this!
He just gets out!
Get up!
joe rogan
I just want to point out, in my house I do all the cooking, so just...
It's just jokes.
bryan callen
Oh boy, this is crazy.
Look at this.
Look at this.
brendan schaub
It's a healthy glass.
Thank you.
bryan callen
You're obviously not gender neutral.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this.
bryan callen
I don't know what I'm saying.
brendan schaub
I got Shark Eyes Doll Smile driving for me.
bryan callen
I keep forgetting your brother's behind me.
I love him.
brendan schaub
Bet your sweet ass he is.
bryan callen
Alright, this fight is very exciting, man.
Come on, Donald.
joe rogan
I like how Donald switches stances, too.
bryan callen
There are men, and there's Donald Cerrone.
joe rogan
Donald Cerrone switches stances, and it's not because he's injured.
It's just because he's got so many variables in his attack.
bryan callen
Look at this, look at this.
joe rogan
He can do all kinds of shit in his attack.
bryan callen
He's a beast!
brendan schaub
I just don't like him headhunting.
joe rogan
I know what you're saying.
No, you're definitely right.
And it's interesting seeing him do that at 70. I think this is a good example of a guy...
Look, first of all, let's bring up Patrick Hote fought Tito Ortiz at 205 in his UFC debut.
unidentified
He's a light heavyweight, yes.
joe rogan
And dropped him.
Correct.
And dropped...
An all-time great light heavyweight in Tito Ortiz.
Oh my god, Donald's tough!
And look how good Donald Cerrone looks.
This is an argument for the point of diminishing returns and weight cutting.
unidentified
Yep.
brendan schaub
Correct, sir.
bryan callen
Yep.
joe rogan
He's dropped him twice.
It's an argument for Donald Cerrone being a bad motherfucker.
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
But we already knew that.
brendan schaub
Donald's bad at any weight.
bryan callen
We already knew that.
brendan schaub
At 70, I think he's at home.
unidentified
I think he's better.
joe rogan
Because look how healthy he looks.
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Lean, fast, fast.
Cardio, can take a shot, and yeah.
bryan callen
Rough is good.
joe rogan
And healthy, man.
He's healthy.
Look how good he looks in his third round.
bryan callen
He was 176 when I was talking to him.
He's only a 6-pound weight cut.
joe rogan
I'm not telling you that's the move.
brendan schaub
It's really the move.
joe rogan
It really is the move.
brendan schaub
They're saying Conor can't make 45 anymore.
It's going to be tough for him.
joe rogan
Good.
So let it go, man.
He's a superstar.
He doesn't need a fucking...
brendan schaub
So what's he going to do?
Joe fight Dos Anjos at 55, son?
joe rogan
Maybe he wins, maybe he loses.
Everybody makes money.
Who gives a fuck?
bryan callen
Oh my god!
Look at that!
Oh my god!
unidentified
Yes, sir!
bryan callen
He's just too good.
unidentified
It's over.
He rolled over.
bryan callen
That's it.
joe rogan
He rolled over.
brendan schaub
I don't want you to let you get your ass whooped.
bryan callen
You bad motherfucker.
joe rogan
He does not stop it.
bryan callen
I'm texting him right now.
I'm saying there are men and there's Donald Cerrone.
joe rogan
That's the kind of beatdown.
brendan schaub
No, no, you have a text.
joe rogan
That's the kind of beatdown.
I don't think anybody's ever beat down Patrick Cote like that.
bryan callen
Damn, he's a bad man.
joe rogan
I don't think anybody's ever beat down Patrick Cote like that.
Patrick Cote is lost.
He broke his hand versus Alan Belcher, and Alan Belcher caught him in the rear naked.
Anderson Silva, he blew his knee out.
Who the fuck has ever beaten him down like that?
unidentified
He dismantled.
brendan schaub
He dropped him three times.
joe rogan
Who has ever beaten him down like that?
How about nobody?
brendan schaub
No one.
joe rogan
No one.
brendan schaub
And he's coming in on a win streak.
joe rogan
Yes.
And he's coming in looking fantastic.
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
And he has a granite chin.
He's known for his chin.
joe rogan
Known for his chin.
Goddamn Donald Cerrone looked good.
bryan callen
God, he's a bad motherfucker.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Look at that left hook.
brendan schaub
That left hook was landing all night.
joe rogan
But staying in the pocket and not taking any shots.
unidentified
God.
joe rogan
What hard punches did he take in this fight?
brendan schaub
He's just too quick.
At 70, he's too quick for these cats.
joe rogan
Not just too quick, fucking healthy.
He's fucking healthy.
brendan schaub
I'm going to be that fucking form guy.
Can you imagine Donald vs.
Wonderboy?
joe rogan
Fuck you!
Donald's our friend, so let's fucking toast him.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Toast the cowboy!
brendan schaub
Quit jacking off to him, Brian.
joe rogan
The way you yad there is probably not in your best interest.
No, he did.
What did I say?
The Howard Dean's like the Howard Dean.
unidentified
Yeah!
bryan callen
We're going to take a lot!
We're going to fucking defeat Australia!
Yeah!
brendan schaub
What did I do?
bryan callen
He ruined everything for himself.
joe rogan
Yeah!
brendan schaub
See, that's pretty manly, I feel like.
joe rogan
No, it's like one drink too many.
It's too much.
unidentified
It sounds kind of lusty.
bryan callen
It sounds like he's watching somebody fucking going, yeah!
joe rogan
No, it's like he's got an audition.
He's never had an audition before.
And they go, action.
He goes, yeah!
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
And then the guy goes, uh, great stuff, Brendan.
We'll be in touch.
So we've got your info.
Oh, by the way, that's not Johnny Depp.
And you're not a fucking actor.
unidentified
Bro, you thought that was Johnny Depp and you thought the other guy was Snoop Dogg.
joe rogan
I was barely paying attention.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
Pull some high as fuck.
bryan callen
John Jones.
eddie bravo
Speaking of high as fuck.
brendan schaub
John fucking Jones.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's pull that better one.
Here's the thing, man.
eddie bravo
For the main event, Joe.
For the main event.
joe rogan
Out of respect.
Here's the thing about this UFC 200 thing and the Brock Lesnar thing.
You know, this is the thing because MMA media loves to write stories about this stuff.
I'm a fan of Ariel Helwani's.
I like Ariel Helwani.
When I was telling what was told to me about the UFC, about the leak, I don't not like Ariel Helwani.
He's always been a nice guy to me.
I like him.
I was just simply stating what I was told.
You know?
And I don't give a fuck about these big promos.
You know what I care?
That Brock Lesnar is gonna fight Mark Hunt.
I don't care if I heard it from my mom.
My mom called me up.
Look, I work for the UFC. I didn't find out until I was sitting there doing commentary.
And I didn't give a shit.
If I had found out because of Ariel Helwani's story instead of the UFC, I wouldn't have given a fuck.
It wouldn't have been any less valuable to me.
bryan callen
Can I ask you something?
As a guy who's on the inside, why would Brock Lesnar take a guy like Mark Hunt on his first fight?
brendan schaub
I don't think he had a choice.
bryan callen
It doesn't make any sense.
It's so dangerous.
brendan schaub
I don't think Dana gave him a choice.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
bryan callen
It's so dangerous, man.
brendan schaub
Who are you going to give him?
Josh Barnett won the fight, and you'd fucking wrap him in two.
joe rogan
It could be that.
Well, Jesus Christ, I would almost like to see Josh Barnett more because of his roots in pro wrestling.
brendan schaub
Barnett wanted the fight, promoted for the fight.
They didn't give it to him for many reasons.
joe rogan
Man, I don't know, man.
unidentified
If I'm talking about it, I'd be hard-pressed.
joe rogan
I'd be hard-pressed to pass Josh Barnett's offer.
brendan schaub
Hunt is going to be like, hey, bitch, I ain't The Undertaker.
Fucking uppercut in second row.
unidentified
Suck it.
joe rogan
Yeah, let me tell you something, man.
Josh Barnett is not a fucking easy fight for anybody.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying he is.
Barnett's a fucking monster.
I'm saying Hunt isn't a cakewalk at all.
joe rogan
No, neither guy is.
brendan schaub
But Barnett can wrestle.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Mark Hunt can't.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Brock Lesnar is a fucking genuine NCAA two-time...
brendan schaub
In 1996, sir.
joe rogan
But he's still a fucking gorilla wrestler.
brendan schaub
He hasn't fought in how long?
joe rogan
That's a good point.
bryan callen
That's a huge point.
unidentified
Yeah.
bryan callen
I mean, you know...
Mark Hunt's been fucking dudes up, man.
And we're gonna give you Mark Hunt, who's peaking.
brendan schaub
No, I'll get too weird.
bryan callen
Hunt is peaking.
brendan schaub
Last time I got weird.
joe rogan
Goddamn Donald Cerrone.
bryan callen
Yeah, Donald's a beast.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker.
God, he's a beast.
To do this to Patrick Cote, you never see Patrick Cote Turtle.
brendan schaub
Think about the cool fights at 70. Think about the cool fights at 70 for Donald.
joe rogan
You never see Patrick Cote Turtle.
I love it.
I love him at 70. I love it at 70. Look, he didn't even get scratched.
bryan callen
No.
He looks as good as it gets.
brendan schaub
He'll be on the boat tomorrow morning.
joe rogan
Yeah, he'll be doing some jet skiing.
brendan schaub
He'll be fucking riding a bull or some shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, he'll be fucking a bear.
brendan schaub
For sure, relax on that.
joe rogan
He's a different kind of guy, man.
I mean, this is what makes him happy.
He likes doing crazy shit.
brendan schaub
It makes me happy.
joe rogan
I'm a big fan.
bryan callen
I'm going to shave my head tomorrow, I'll tell you that much.
joe rogan
I just like him as a person.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a good dude.
joe rogan
He's a fun, warm dude.
You know what Donald said to me once, man?
I'd only met him, like, maybe twice.
You know?
It was, like, early on in the day.
And I said, hey, man, what's up?
And I went to give him a handshake.
He goes, oh, come on, man, we hug around here.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's great.
joe rogan
And he gives you a hug.
But it's a genuine hug.
You know?
It's not political or he's not...
bryan callen
No.
brendan schaub
Dude, he's starting podcasting now.
From Jackson's gym.
joe rogan
I'm subscribing.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
I'll take it.
Everybody should podcast.
brendan schaub
He calls it The Companion, for sure.
joe rogan
You should have a podcast the same way you have a fucking...
Why not call it The Companion?
brendan schaub
I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
Who gives a shit?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
The same way you have...
brendan schaub
It's The Ranch Companion.
I think that's his show.
joe rogan
Something like that.
bryan callen
Where they breed bad motherfuckers.
He calls it Bad Motherfucker Ranch.
joe rogan
Well, it's like, uh, what was that, uh, Garen Keillor, sir?
What's that guy?
Prairie Home Companion guy?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Garrison Keillor, is that his name?
Well, there was a radio show that was, like, a really famous radio show.
bryan callen
Is that called Companion?
I don't remember his name, but he, uh...
joe rogan
Garrison?
bryan callen
He had, uh, he had it on NPR every Sunday.
brendan schaub
I've never fucking heard of it.
joe rogan
It's one of those things that people listen to when your etiquette system is completely shut down.
You're no longer interested in fucking at all.
bryan callen
Look at these fucking guys.
joe rogan
Joking.
brendan schaub
The Prairie Home Companion.
Is it part of the public's radio pass?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
brendan schaub
I've never fucking heard of them.
joe rogan
Well, it's a famous thing, and I don't believe I've ever listened to a whole one, but I know that it's a big deal to some people.
brendan schaub
Oh, he's still doing the damn thing?
bryan callen
This would be the main event, gentlemen.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
And I hope you guys are ready.
joe rogan
Big fucking fight.
Okay, let's break this down.
unidentified
Brendan Schaub, Eddie Bravo, and Brian motherfucking Cowan.
joe rogan
What do you guys think?
Start with Brian.
bryan callen
What, me?
What do I say?
joe rogan
What do you think?
bryan callen
I mean, look.
Here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
brendan schaub
There's no problems yet.
bryan callen
Rory's trained.
He trained with Wonderboy.
Bro, don't steal my lines.
brendan schaub
I broke this down on all parts.
unidentified
Hold on.
joe rogan
That was my exact line.
unidentified
Let me finish.
joe rogan
Let me finish, you son of a bitch.
bryan callen
Let me finish.
If Rory gives him space, it's going to be a disaster.
If Rory stays in boxing wrestling distance, he's going to win this fight.
But I don't know if you can do that now.
I don't know if you can do that with Wonderboy.
Wonderboy may have figured out distance, and he may have figured out how to keep a guy like that away.
This is way too close to call.
joe rogan
Let me hear what Brendan thinks.
eddie bravo
I'll take...
joe rogan
Can I hear what Brandon thinks?
I'll continue next.
I want to hear what you guys think.
brendan schaub
I think Rory has too many tools.
He's too smart.
And he's...
They've trained together before at TriStar and Feras helped Wonder Boy out a bunch so they know his tricks.
And I think Rory wins this fight.
And it's good for the sport because he's a free agent and he can go test the free market waters.
So it changes the sport for the good.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Eddie Bravo, what do you think?
eddie bravo
It's too close to call.
brendan schaub
That's why we should bet.
unidentified
But if I had a gun to my head, I would go with...
eddie bravo
You're right.
On paper, you're right.
Rory McDonald does have too many tools, but I just think Stephen Thompson, he's just so quick coming in and out.
Just with that kind of shit, just this explosiveness, I'm going to go with that just for a goof.
brendan schaub
Both the analysts picked Wonderboy on UFC Tonight, by the way.
joe rogan
Here's the thing, though.
It's tough.
Wonderboy has been hit before.
Didn't Ellenberger tag him?
brendan schaub
Yes.
He did, right?
And Matt Brown.
joe rogan
Yeah, Matt Brown.
Well, Matt Brown was in his verse, but in his words, he said that he was overtrained going into that fight, and then he made some mistakes.
brendan schaub
Aren't we all?
joe rogan
And it's totally possible that's the truth.
But he also fought Matt motherfucking Brown.
And you might feel like you got overtrained if you fight Matt motherfucking Brown.
brendan schaub
Yes, that pressure, son.
joe rogan
Because Matt Brown will put some pressure on you, and you'll be looking for solutions.
brendan schaub
He's immortal.
joe rogan
He takes you to a dark place.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And if you've never been to that dark place before, you might think, man, someone poisoned my fucking soup.
brendan schaub
100%.
Nah, bitch.
That's not Matt Brown cardio.
bryan callen
Poisoning my soup.
brendan schaub
That's that immortal cardio, son.
joe rogan
He's just beating that ass and draining you in a way that only a dude who's died and been brought back to life by EMTs can do.
bryan callen
For real.
brendan schaub
Only him and Donna can bring that pain.
bryan callen
Besides Carlos Condit, when he was really young, the only person Rory McDonald's lost to, I believe, is Robbie Lawler.
Am I right?
brendan schaub
Carlos Condit, he lost Robbie Lawler.
bryan callen
That's it.
And he was beating Carlos Condit.
joe rogan
You know who else can bring that kind of darkness?
Court McGee.
brendan schaub
Well, yeah, because he died from meth or some shit.
joe rogan
He brings that same darkness.
brendan schaub
You're talking about that touch of death darkness.
joe rogan
That touch of death darkness.
brendan schaub
There's Dada, there's fucking the immortal Matt Brown, and there's Court McGee.
joe rogan
Court McGee might lose some fights, and he's a very, very tough guy, but he's in a very, very difficult division with a lot of very tough guys.
But there's a darkness that Court brings when he starts beating that ass.
brendan schaub
And you're going dark, too.
joe rogan
He beats that ass in a very fucking animalistic, clinical way.
Like a technical, clinical way where he's seen the edge.
brendan schaub
Because he has technique from the Grim Reaper, is what you're saying.
joe rogan
He's been to the edge of time.
brendan schaub
For reals.
joe rogan
They both have come back.
Him and Matt Brown.
brendan schaub
It's nuts.
joe rogan
They carry with him some Harry Potter shit.
unidentified
Yep.
bryan callen
Yep.
brendan schaub
It's like Frighteners in this bitch.
joe rogan
This is why this could never be on television!
brendan schaub
Never.
joe rogan
Do you understand, folks?
brendan schaub
Never.
bryan callen
Dude, I'm going to make a call.
I haven't made a call yet.
I'm going to go with...
joe rogan
Okay.
Can I say?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think I agree with you guys that if you looked at it on paper, Rory is a more difficult challenge because he has more tools and he can knock guys out that are legit strikers like Tarek Safedine.
His knockout of Tarek Safedine was big because Safedine's a very, very skillful striker and Safedine ran a clinic on Nate Marquardt to win the Strikeforce welterweight title.
It was a clinic.
A clinic of leg kicks and technique and footwork.
He's a really good striker.
So for Rory to knock him out the way he did is pretty stunning.
It's Rory's interchanges between wrestling and striking that can make a big difference in this fight.
brendan schaub
GSP style.
joe rogan
Because Rory's fluid in that, whereas Steven Wonderboy Thompson, unless he figures out a way to put Rory on his back early and shake him up the way Boce tried to do, but the danger with that is Rory has a wicked fucking guard.
He's fast off of his back, he moves quick, and he tries to set up sweeps and omoplatas.
brendan schaub
He went to draw a metamorist.
joe rogan
Right, and you might not have seen it before, But it is legit as fuck.
He went to a draw with JT Torres.
brendan schaub
He did well.
joe rogan
Do you understand, folks?
I mean, you don't understand.
Like, this is like the top of the food chain, Brazilian jiu-jitsu competitors.
bryan callen
He's a killer.
joe rogan
Look at him.
He's in that breed.
brendan schaub
He's also in his homeland.
joe rogan
Exactly.
So if Rory McDonald can go to the ground at that high of a level and survive without getting tapped.
He got really close to getting tapped.
I mean, his arm got jacked up.
brendan schaub
He really did get...
But he didn't tap.
He was in trouble.
joe rogan
Oh, his arm is fucked.
Super fucked.
brendan schaub
And he had a fight like three weeks later, four weeks later.
joe rogan
He's a mad man.
brendan schaub
He's also the Canadian serial killer.
joe rogan
But dude, I'm telling you, man, one of the things that came about of him being on my podcast is people got to really understand you're only seeing him in his game face.
unidentified
He's a great guy.
joe rogan
So of course he seems like he's a psycho.
brendan schaub
No, no.
joe rogan
But when he was on the podcast, man...
brendan schaub
He's hilarious.
joe rogan
When he was on this podcast, people got a chance to see him as an actual person.
And they're like, oh, I've only been seeing you when you're competing.
brendan schaub
No, he's the best!
Me and him have had some great nights at nightclubs.
joe rogan
Santahumon stuff?
bryan callen
Funny guy?
joe rogan
The best!
This is a perfect example of what we were talking about when we were talking about with Connor.
This is a guy that should be applauded.
unidentified
He is a fucking intelligent savage.
brendan schaub
There's a superstar who's never won a belt.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Face of Canada.
joe rogan
Never won a belt.
That close!
brendan schaub
Still didn't win the battle.
joe rogan
There you go, Joe.
brendan schaub
You know when I say dicker down?
That came from him.
At the time I was single.
He was single.
There was a bunch of girls in Vegas.
He goes, it's time to separate that mother hen from the goose and dig them down.
bryan callen
Oh, he's good.
brendan schaub
That's Woody McDonald's cool.
And I went, what the fuck did you just say?
And I had to ride it into my phone to remember the next morning.
joe rogan
He's an animal, man.
unidentified
Because there's one girl taking care of all of them.
joe rogan
That's a funny piece of advice.
unidentified
He's good.
brendan schaub
He's the best.
bryan callen
His nose looks different.
unidentified
He's hilarious.
joe rogan
Well, he's talking a lot of shots, man.
The Robbie Lawler fight, he got his nose destroyed.
brendan schaub
Wonder Boy, you mean Wonder Man.
joe rogan
He's 33. He's a really good dude, man.
He's a really good dude.
I'm a big fan.
They're both great guys.
bryan callen
You know both of them pretty well, right?
brendan schaub
Really, really well.
Training partners for a long time.
But Roy McDonald, just for the good of the sport, if he wins and tests his free agency, it helps the growth of the sport.
joe rogan
But let me just say this about Wonderboy.
Wonderboy is extraordinary in his ability to close the distance and land these thunderous shots out of nowhere.
brendan schaub
Probably the best in the world.
joe rogan
His combinations are so fluid that they're enough for him to land one or two hard shots in every exchange.
And if he does that, if he somehow or another can...
Tempt Rory into some hypnotic dance and do some high-level shit on him.
It's all in his ability to stuff the takedown.
If he feels super confident in his ability to stuff the takedown because he's been training with Weidman so much.
brendan schaub
He hasn't been training with him.
joe rogan
I'm looking for this fight, but it made a big difference in his technique.
I'm going with Wonderboy.
I think Wonderboy's going to win this And his understanding of how to stuff takedowns.
His takedown stuffing is at a very high level.
It absolutely has something to do with training with Weidman, but it's not saying that he's so silly that he would substitute that and not have a high-level wrestler test him.
He's not dumb.
He's a smart guy, and so is his dad.
brendan schaub
If I can call it, I think Roy eats his lunch.
joe rogan
That's what I think.
bryan callen
Wow.
I know, it's crazy.
joe rogan
And I love both of them.
I love both of them.
I am 100% 50-50 on this fight.
100%.
bryan callen
Just to be controversial, because you know how I am, guys.
joe rogan
Hey, are you a rebel?
bryan callen
I'm going with Wonderboy.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Wonderboy by knockout, Brian, the kick, knockout.
bryan callen
Well, listen, if there's anybody who can knock him out, it's Rory.
I mean, it's Wonderboy.
joe rogan
If people get mad at me being non-committal, it's not because I like both of these gentlemen.
It is really honestly because this sport is so fucking crazy.
It's whoever shows up tonight.
Mike Bisping knocked out Luke Rockhold in the first round.
brendan schaub
I woke up my fucking baby.
My baby fell asleep.
And I finally put him to sleep.
First time ever I put him to sleep.
Mike knocks him out.
I love Mike.
Goodbye.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
brendan schaub
My kid started crying.
unidentified
I'm like, fuck, Mike!
brendan schaub
I even texted him like, you woke up, my kid was worth it.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
unidentified
I felt like crying.
brendan schaub
When Bisping won, I felt like crying.
Ten fucking years.
bryan callen
I was happy for him.
I wish he hadn't gotten on top of the fence and gone, fuck you.
That was a little...
joe rogan
Whatever.
He was on a rollercoaster ride of emotions.
But him winning the fight and winning the world title like that, you can't fault him for that.
Talk to him when the dust settles.
Talk to him on Monday and he's barely back to Michael Bisping.
brendan schaub
Bisping, Dan Heston 2, UFC title, they both walk away.
It's the best fucking Wizard of Oz story of all time.
bryan callen
I've never seen a knockout like that.
Look at this, look at this.
joe rogan
Oh my god, here we go.
Here we go.
Now here's the question.
Here's the question.
Can Rory threaten him enough with takedowns to get him off of his game of striking?
brendan schaub
Rory can kick too.
bryan callen
I don't like how close Wonderboy's coming to him.
joe rogan
Or does Rory decide that all that training with Raymond Daniels has made him comfortable enough with a legit high-level karate striker that he thinks he can control the distance?
bryan callen
Look at the sideways.
He's just sideways.
Rory's smart though, huh?
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
Well, Daniels fights sideways too, which is one of the interesting things because...
Thompson is one of the few guys that can pull off that stance.
A total front leg sidekick.
Do you know anyone else?
brendan schaub
Liotto?
joe rogan
No, but Liotto doesn't do it as good as him.
brendan schaub
He used to back in the day.
joe rogan
Justin Scoggins does it very well.
That flyweight kid?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
He does it very well.
brendan schaub
Very well, yeah.
joe rogan
Very well.
He's one of the, maybe the best at it.
brendan schaub
He might be the best because he moves better.
joe rogan
Moves fantastic.
He moves like a He's a high-level kid that's got a lot of potential.
But if you can pull that stance off and control with that front leg like a jab, there's a lot of guys that aren't ready for that.
brendan schaub
God, that fucking left leg is wound up for a minute.
joe rogan
See, when Baltolini fought Raymond Daniels, what did he do?
Oh, shit!
Oh, Rory, you sneaky fucker.
You sneaky fucker.
That was scary, see?
brendan schaub
Yeah!
joe rogan
Introduction of danger.
bryan callen
Introduction of danger.
brendan schaub
He's so smart.
It's like beating the brain.
joe rogan
Very important.
He's a killer, man.
eddie bravo
He trains a TriStar, and TriStar is heavy, deep, into leg rocks.
brendan schaub
Farasa, beast on the ground.
eddie bravo
Farasa.
brendan schaub
Donna Hurs comes up there.
eddie bravo
Look at this.
So those guys are...
All about leg legs.
bryan callen
Oh, guys.
joe rogan
Fross's hobby apparently is not down with the ketogenic diet.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would love to talk to him about that because I'm an idiot.
brendan schaub
Fross is so smart.
joe rogan
And he's smarter than me.
brendan schaub
That worries me.
unidentified
Me too.
Hey, Fross, don't talk me out of my fucking diet.
bryan callen
You look good, bro.
joe rogan
I like him.
bryan callen
I'm very happy with your keto body.
joe rogan
He might not be correct.
I don't know who's correct.
And it might not be...
Whoa, nice counters here.
bryan callen
He's so fucking fast.
He's also so confident.
joe rogan
Rory's throwing head kicks, man.
brendan schaub
Rory can kick, guys.
joe rogan
He can kick, and also it keeps him at a distance where he can head kick Thompson, but Thompson has to move forward to counter with that punch.
So if he can get that head kick off as quick as he just did, it gives Wonderboy something to think about.
Because all of a sudden, Hold on a second, dude.
Because Wonderboy is always used to fighting on the outside.
So if Rory can be the guy on the outside because he threatens with that head kick, it changes the whole dynamic.
brendan schaub
Because Wonderboy has to come in, you're thinking?
joe rogan
Exactly.
bryan callen
It looks like he's fighting.
He's mirroring Wonderboy's style, right?
That's what it looks like.
brendan schaub
Rory also has the best jab at 170 in the world.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got a very good jab.
bryan callen
He looks like he's mirroring his exact style, though.
Same stance, everything.
unidentified
Look.
joe rogan
Well, it's interesting.
If he can threaten more with the head kick, that's really interesting.
If he can hide it behind those punches...
bryan callen
Damn.
brendan schaub
Not really, Ryan.
bryan callen
No?
eddie bravo
No, they don't have the same stance.
One guy's orthodox, one guy's southpaw.
It always looks like that.
bryan callen
Yeah, that's...
But they look like...
joe rogan
It's like the same movement, same body.
I know what you're saying.
He's mirroring him in terms of he's standing much more sideways than he usually does, too.
Yes.
Well, he's done a lot of sparring with Daniels.
And he understands how to negate that front leg kick.
See, that front leg kick is way more effective if you're slightly square.
Because you fight like a tie fighter, you expose that front.
And tie fighters, they throw a lot of teeps, but they don't necessarily throw the same kind of sidekicks unless they have some sort of other background as well.
brendan schaub
Rory's biggest advantage is he's so smart and can put it all together.
He's very George St. Pierre-esque.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, man.
No, he's legit as fuck.
unidentified
Strategic.
joe rogan
Oh, oh!
brendan schaub
Not even close, though.
Not even close, son.
joe rogan
The switch spinning back kick, yeah.
bryan callen
These guys are just...
joe rogan
Well, that's the thing.
I'm nervous.
Training with Raymond Daniels.
brendan schaub
I like both of these guys.
I'm nervous.
joe rogan
But training with Raymond Daniels cares you for that.
bryan callen
I talked a lot of shit.
joe rogan
You know, you're okay.
brendan schaub
I talked a lot of shit.
joe rogan
You're okay.
brendan schaub
No, I'm just kidding.
I love both these guys.
joe rogan
But see, that front leg sidekick style, like Baltolini beat that down.
bryan callen
Hands down.
Oh, that front leg sidekick is sweet.
That's a nice sidekick.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so slick.
bryan callen
Hey, Brennan, you keep it down, alright?
eddie bravo
That's the benefit of the style.
unidentified
Oh, here we are.
Here we go.
joe rogan
Oh, elbows in the clinch.
bryan callen
Oh, rough.
brendan schaub
Oh, please.
joe rogan
Rory tries to get you back, man.
When you hit Rory, even if you hit him with that front leg sidekick, he gets mad.
brendan schaub
That maple syrup gets boiling.
joe rogan
He's a fucking Canadian gangster.
brendan schaub
Boiling in his blood.
unidentified
Don't say that.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker, this kid.
bryan callen
He's so stupid.
That maple syrup gets boiling.
What the fuck are you talking about?
joe rogan
You know what's interesting when you see a kid like Rory, or you see someone like Thompson?
You know what's interesting about both of these guys is that they're going to get better.
If they don't get physically injured in this fight to the point where it incapacitates them and stops their training, these guys are going to get better because of this fight, because they're in that prime period.
brendan schaub
Rory has to get going.
joe rogan
What you're looking at right here is some of the best movement and striking in 170 that you're going to find today.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
1 vs.
2, son.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And as far as MMA striking, these guys are goddamn as legit as it gets.
brendan schaub
Elite of the elite.
The elite of the elite.
The upper echelon.
You're looking at the 1%ers of 1% right now.
It doesn't get any better.
joe rogan
That's what's fascinating like standing on the outside watching that.
I'm watching that I'm going these guys are gonna get better.
brendan schaub
It's a chess match.
For Rory I'm a little scared.
If he loses this one, it's a little tough.
joe rogan
What is the fighter of 2025 gonna look like?
I mean, how goddamn good are these break dancers slash jiu-jitsu artists with ridiculous karate skills?
bryan callen
It might hit a saturation point.
Look at boxing.
Boxing from the 1900s.
joe rogan
Look at this dive, son.
Danger.
Danger, Will Robinson.
brendan schaub
Danger, Will Robinson.
joe rogan
And how about Thompson with a slick getaway?
Like, not today, son!
unidentified
That's professional defense right there.
Beautiful.
eddie bravo
That's a standard pro.
joe rogan
And that's his buddy, Raymond Daniels.
eddie bravo
Get off me, son.
Raymond Daniels is a mother...
brendan schaub
Look at that corner.
Raymond Daniels, for us.
What?
bryan callen
What is Raymond Daniels' specialty?
joe rogan
He's a karate champion.
He's a karate champion.
He also fights in glory.
brendan schaub
You have to acknowledge him.
joe rogan
Listen, I can't believe you don't know who he is.
brendan schaub
Rip your dick off like a chimpanzee if you don't acknowledge him.
joe rogan
Guys, it makes my asshole.
brendan schaub
My dick went...
bryan callen
Guys, sorry.
I was asking a fake question.
I clenched up.
joe rogan
I clenched up and said, please, God, let me not have heard that.
brendan schaub
I agree.
Who's Raymond Daniels?
My fucking heart hurts.
joe rogan
He's one of the top kickboxers in the world.
bryan callen
Top kickboxers in the world, I know.
brendan schaub
There you go.
bryan callen
Fucking know what he is.
I was asking you guys to see if you knew.
joe rogan
Nicky Holtzkin and who?
Joseph, what's his not saying?
Faltellini, you fuck.
You don't know.
bryan callen
Faltellini.
joe rogan
Those are the only guys that beat him.
bryan callen
The only guys that beat him.
joe rogan
And they both beat him the same way.
bryan callen
I remember that.
joe rogan
Muay Thai.
Muay Thai.
High guard.
bryan callen
All that high guard shit.
joe rogan
Slut of leg kicks.
eddie bravo
Thompson's not gone enough.
joe rogan
There's a lot of pro wrestling fans like, Brian is seriously an asshole!
unidentified
Does he not understand what Joe's telling him?
Why don't you shut up and let Joe and Brandon talk you like an asshole?
joe rogan
You will never get to fight for the title!
Oh, quick little sneaky knee to the body by Thompson.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm sweating.
I don't feel credit during this fight.
bryan callen
You need to take a break.
joe rogan
Well, I always feel like Rory brings a queasiness to this fight.
brendan schaub
I don't want either guy to lose.
I don't want either guy to lose.
joe rogan
Rory's a terrifying individual, but Wonderboy is a fucking whip-smart, super sharp.
brendan schaub
There's more pressure on Rory.
There's just a lot of pressure on Rory, man.
Face it, Canada.
He's going to free agency.
joe rogan
Wonderboy's going to be fine, even though he's 33. I don't think that affects Rory the same way it affects a regular person.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
joe rogan
I think he fights harder.
That Robbie Lawler fight was goddamn chaos.
I re-watched that yesterday.
brendan schaub
That's the best fight of the fucking century.
joe rogan
Oh my shit, I rewatched that today.
brendan schaub
It's amazing.
How can you know?
joe rogan
That's how high I am.
Time-traveling.
brendan schaub
Time-traveling.
Motherfucker, I'm time-traveling.
joe rogan
I rewatched...
By the way, I was going through my DVR because I was running out of space.
And I came across this fight, the Rory McDonald-Robbie Lawler fight, and I had to watch a little bit of it again.
It was just like, Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
He told me when he got hit...
It went white.
It just all went white.
He couldn't see.
So he just had to sit down.
bryan callen
That's terrible.
joe rogan
The fight was chaos.
What a badass.
brendan schaub
He goes, my nose was jamming into my eye socket.
joe rogan
He's moving just the right amount away from Wonderboy's punches.
brendan schaub
He's so calculated, man.
joe rogan
It's really interesting.
He's the first guy to give Wonderboy real problems with his timing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, because Matt Brown said, I don't give a fuck.
I've been dead and just walked through it.
joe rogan
Well, maybe it was a different Wonderboy, too.
Obviously, Wonderboy's gotten better at stuffing takedowns and training with wrestlers.
brendan schaub
True, but Matt Brown still got hit.
He's just walked through it.
Roy's not getting really hit.
joe rogan
He's standing on that outside with footwork.
Unquestionably, man.
And Rory's threatening him everywhere.
bryan callen
He does something different every fight, too.
Rory comes up with a new bag of tricks every fight.
joe rogan
Well, he does that one...
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh, that front leg sidekick is legit, son.
bryan callen
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
But if Rory can slide back with it, if he sees the leg come up and he lets his body go with it, it's not as bad.
eddie bravo
That's a serious weapon right there.
joe rogan
It's a hook kick.
bryan callen
It's a front foot hook kick.
eddie bravo
That's the benefits of leaving your leg out there.
joe rogan
Eddie, do you remember us talking about this like 10, 15 years ago?
brendan schaub
Oh, good.
That's a great shot.
joe rogan
Remember us talking about those karate guys?
I'm like, they're coming, man.
brendan schaub
And Rory can wrestle, my man.
joe rogan
There's these guys that can throw these fucking kicks.
I've seen them.
I've seen these guys.
brendan schaub
Oh, great elbow.
joe rogan
They're gonna learn how to do everything else.
unidentified
Sure.
brendan schaub
Dude, Wanderboy and I have...
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Hit to the body.
bryan callen
Roy's blocking it, though.
joe rogan
But those shots to the body suck, dude.
brendan schaub
They'll add up, too.
They'll pay dividends.
It's like investing.
joe rogan
And it's a five-round fight, man.
brendan schaub
It's a long fight.
joe rogan
Oh!
brendan schaub
Don't kid yourself.
joe rogan
The more this fight goes on...
The more those body shots are going to mean something.
brendan schaub
Dude, me and Wanderboy have fought on multiple cards because we had the same manager, so that's the way sometimes it lines up.
And Wanderboy's dad trains him, and he'd be in the back crying, and I'm like, this guy's about to get his ass whooped.
And he'd go out there and starch dudes.
Fucking starch, dudes.
Because whenever I see a guy cry, I'm like, you're fucked, bro.
He'd go out there and fuck dudes up.
joe rogan
Yeah, he can handle it.
He's just going through it, gets it out of the system, and goes out there and performs.
unidentified
I know.
brendan schaub
I was like, damn, I feel like crying.
joe rogan
Like a man.
brendan schaub
I feel like crying.
eddie bravo
How often do guys quit from leg kicks to the arms?
joe rogan
It's very rare.
eddie bravo
Are there fighters that are just like, fuck that, I'm done.
bryan callen
What's his name made that guy quit?
unidentified
Broke his arms.
joe rogan
What's definitely happened?
Well, Frank Shamrock with Kung Lee.
bryan callen
Recently?
What was his name?
The guy who got armbarred by Jacare, who just fought recently?
joe rogan
Chris Camozzi?
bryan callen
Yeah, his knees broke that dude's arms.
brendan schaub
Oh, Chris Camozzi did it to Joe Riggs.
Joe Riggs.
unidentified
You know, there's people out there that quit from leg kicks after some fights.
brendan schaub
Leg kicks.
unidentified
Remember when homeboy...
joe rogan
It depends, man.
It really depends.
It depends where on the arm, too.
Like, if you kick someone here, like right here, it's significantly easier for you to absorb than if you get kicked here.
brendan schaub
Dude, who's homeboy the Dutch kickboxer in the UFC? Did I make sense with that?
joe rogan
No, I didn't.
brendan schaub
Anthony Harden made a guy quit.
joe rogan
It's easier to block a kick here than it is to block a kick here.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
If you're blocking a kick higher towards your hand, your arm gets real weak.
If you get kicked in the middle, like up here, you're probably going to get your arm broken.
But if you get kicked here, you might be okay.
The same kick.
Here, it might hurt the other guy's shin.
It's a big difference between catching an elbow and catching a shin, but you still don't want to.
Yeah, but you still don't want to.
You can definitely break a guy's foot.
See, one of the things about Wonderboy is he throws instep kicks, which is really interesting, because his distance is way better.
It might not be the best thing for leg kicks.
Is that Weidman?
With leg kicks, you want to use shin bones, but he can throw instep kicks that are super powerful.
brendan schaub
He doesn't throw those traditional Muay Thai kicks, though.
joe rogan
Well, he does those, too.
brendan schaub
He can do those, too.
joe rogan
But what I'm saying is there's a difference when a guy is really good with the instep that gives you almost an extra foot of area where you're impacting.
Except, like, a lot of the really good Dutch kickboxers like Ernesto Hoost, he would wrap that foot around the back of your head.
He would blam!
So he would really tuck you into, like, when you, like, flex your foot, he would tuck you to sleep right in there.
brendan schaub
Because it hit the back of the hill.
bryan callen
He'd hit you in the back.
Bang, bang!
He'd punch, he'd jab, punch, and then just doosh!
joe rogan
He would throw it over the top of your shoulder.
bryan callen
Weird.
joe rogan
And chop you down on the neck.
bryan callen
How tall is he?
6'4", at least?
joe rogan
He's a very tall man.
I met a bunch of guys.
He's a very nice guy too and so skillful.
What a great kickboxer he was.
brendan schaub
Rory is so cautious with that right hand.
joe rogan
But what I'm saying is Wonderboy offers a lot of weird shit that if you don't prepare for him, which Rory clearly did bringing in Raymond Daniels, he could be a real problem to you because his distance is so much more than you think it should be.
bryan callen
Oh, man!
joe rogan
Rory's closing that distance really well.
brendan schaub
God, Wonderboy's so fucking quick.
bryan callen
He answers back with speed.
joe rogan
He does, but look, Rory's moving very well here, but the thing about Wonderboy is you've got to mind all your P's and Q's.
You've got to fucking dot your I's and cross your fingers.
brendan schaub
For 25 minutes.
bryan callen
Just like Brendan around Michael J. White, you're right.
brendan schaub
For 25 minutes or you're going to sleep.
joe rogan
Michael J. White.
bryan callen
You're talking about Spawn again?
unidentified
You're talking about Spawn!
bryan callen
Michael J. Smith slash Q. Michael J. Smith slash Q. Michael J. Smith slash Q. You watch your fucking P's and Q's, bro.
Michael J. Q? Hey, buy him a drink and thank him for his work and shut the fuck up.
brendan schaub
Dude, I love the Spawn.
It ends there.
unidentified
Oh, see, ooh, beautiful kick by Wonderboy.
joe rogan
Wonderboy just missed a beautiful kick.
Dude, let me tell you something, man.
I'm so impressed with the controlling of distance by Rory.
The way he uses that high left hand, that guard, look how he does this.
He leans forward with his arms straight up in the air on the left side, and that's something he used against Tyrod Woodley.
He shut down Woodley's right hand.
brendan schaub
Look at this!
He just jumped a half guard.
unidentified
He just jumped a half guard.
bryan callen
He's looking for that.
eddie bravo
Dude, he's going right to the legs.
Look at this!
brendan schaub
If he swings and gets on top, this would be brilliant.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
eddie bravo
He's going after his legs.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
Hammerfist?
Look at this shit.
Oh my goodness.
Ooh, slippy, slippy.
bryan callen
Gentlemen, we have a very even fight here.
joe rogan
Greasy butt gets right back up to his feet.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Wonderboy is slick as fuck.
Beautiful fucking technique by Wonderboy.
Look at that right hand.
brendan schaub
Hey, what a fucking chess match.
What a brilliant chess match.
bryan callen
I love it!
brendan schaub
This is no different than Steph Curry vs.
LeBron James.
It's just brilliant.
joe rogan
That left hand that Wonderboy just landed moving away.
Very slick.
brendan schaub
God damn it.
joe rogan
Look how Wonderboy fights too.
Total hands down.
brendan schaub
MMA at its finest.
bryan callen
Total hands down.
joe rogan
Total hands down.
These punches are coming up from the hip.
bryan callen
Look at this.
Oh!
joe rogan
And he will blitzkrieg on you.
brendan schaub
It's not landing though, is it?
Roy's doing a great job minimizing the damage.
joe rogan
Great job.
And constant pressure.
So again, Wonderboy, as we were saying before, he's got to move back more.
Causes more...
It's a little bit less natural, the moving back and jumping in, whereas Rory, Rory's just sort of plodding forward, just keeping the distance with that long, straight left hand, and threatening every time they engage.
brendan schaub
Hey, good luck judging this fight.
bryan callen
What happened?!
joe rogan
Fuck you!
Jamie went down!
unidentified
Oh God!
bryan callen
Jamie?
Jamie?
God, Jamie is the man.
He's back.
unidentified
He's back.
bryan callen
Calm down, guys.
unidentified
Calm down.
bryan callen
We were ready to tweet.
joe rogan
Fuck you!
Fuck you, somebody!
brendan schaub
Fuck you, DirecTV!
joe rogan
Fuck you, America!
Who's it?
Donald Trump?
Who did this?
Fucking Ted Cruz!
brendan schaub
Fuck you, ISIS! Fuck everybody!
They finally got to us.
joe rogan
Oh, kick to the body.
bryan callen
Oh, yeah.
Come on.
brendan schaub
God, good luck judging this fight, man.
bryan callen
Oh, my God.
Mastery.
It's mastery.
joe rogan
This is interesting, man.
bryan callen
Oh, that's a beautiful shot.
brendan schaub
Someone's going to land something major.
joe rogan
Maybe not, man.
This could be a five-round affair that's very similar to what we're seeing right now.
If both guys keep their fitness, they're going to realize there's an imminent threat in any opening, any taking chances.
brendan schaub
Roy's going to have to grapple to test the fitness of Thompson.
bryan callen
He's been trying.
brendan schaub
He's been trying, though.
Not really.
Not really.
joe rogan
That right hand that he's putting in front of his face is very nice.
bryan callen
I got Wonderboy at this point.
joe rogan
Well, both guys look really good.
brendan schaub
Dude, this is a tough fight to judge.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
Who the fuck fights like Wonderboy, man?
Look at this guy.
Switching stances, hands down low.
bryan callen
I feel like he's...
brendan schaub
He's in his house, though, right now.
You know what I'm saying?
He's not going to get tired.
He could do this for 10 rounds.
Or he has to force a grappling.
joe rogan
Well, if he starts to feel like Rory's slowing down a little bit, and he can relax, he can do more of this shit, this is his style, man.
brendan schaub
God, look at him with his hands down.
joe rogan
Brian, you should open up one of those psychic places.
bryan callen
I'm telling you, I had a feeling, bro.
I had a feeling, I'm telling you.
I had a feeling.
I'm telling you, Wonderboy's going to win this fight.
He's going to win this fight.
brendan schaub
You know the odds are pretty even.
bryan callen
I know, but I have an overwhelming feeling that he's going to win.
brendan schaub
You and a shitload of other people.
joe rogan
You're a crazy person.
bryan callen
I said it before the fight.
brendan schaub
A ton of people did.
bryan callen
Not the way I did it, though.
Not with my conviction.
joe rogan
You're a crazy person, Brian.
brendan schaub
I don't know how you're going to judge this fight.
unidentified
You're a crazy person.
brendan schaub
You could say Roy's winning because of Octagon Control.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Listen, this is an awesome fight.
brendan schaub
It's also in Canada, you motherfuckers.
joe rogan
Listen, seriously, this is a fucking awesome fight.
This is an interesting fight.
brendan schaub
It's a fun chess match.
joe rogan
This is a super high-level affair between two of the most dangerous guys on the planet Earth.
brendan schaub
That guy in Rory's corner looks like Rory in 20 years.
They look very similar.
unidentified
Yeah, maybe.
bryan callen
Same oblong face.
joe rogan
Could be his brother or something.
brendan schaub
It might be his dad.
His dad used to be his trainer.
bryan callen
Wonderboy Thompson's a cutie pie, by the way.
If you're talking about top five...
joe rogan
Hey, no more of that.
We can't do that anymore.
We do that too many times on the show.
brendan schaub
Why do you do that, man?
joe rogan
People get mad.
bryan callen
They get mad?
joe rogan
Too much gay stuff.
bryan callen
It's not gay.
I'm just saying...
It's progressive.
I understand.
joe rogan
You're trying to get auditions.
bryan callen
If you were looking at...
If you were aesthetically looking at fighters and you had to choose models, he'd be in your top five.
brendan schaub
Fuck you.
unidentified
Wonder Boy?
joe rogan
I don't want to do this anymore.
brendan schaub
We've done this too many times.
Alan Jobin, number one.
bryan callen
Yeah, and Wonder Boy's in the top five.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
This makes me uncomfortable.
brendan schaub
He's also Wonder Man.
He's 33. Well, he's Wonder Boy to me.
There's no 33-year-old models.
bryan callen
I'm old, bro.
brendan schaub
There's no 33-year-old models.
joe rogan
Did you ever see The Natural with Robert Redford?
bryan callen
Yes.
joe rogan
No, I have not.
It's Wonder Boy.
That's where the name came from.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it has to be Wonder Man.
He's 33. No, no, no, no.
joe rogan
Robert Redford was like 50. He came back.
bryan callen
If I'm the kid, he's the boy.
joe rogan
That's embarrassing.
He looked great.
unidentified
He looked great.
joe rogan
His skin was a little loose, but other than that, big bone structure.
brendan schaub
His skin's a little loose.
bryan callen
Oh, look at that.
Wonder Boy can catch you from every angle.
I like saying obvious things.
joe rogan
Oh, sidekicks.
Sidekicks.
You know what?
If I was a feminist writer, I'd be really mad at that movie The Natural.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Because some evil woman took away the genius of some very masculine man.
brendan schaub
How old is that movie?
joe rogan
Old as fuck.
It wasn't even photographs.
It was all just cartoons.
brendan schaub
God damn.
I have never heard of it.
joe rogan
What?
bryan callen
It's a great movie, Brennan.
joe rogan
It's a really good movie.
bryan callen
For natural.
brendan schaub
I'll check it out.
joe rogan
It's about baseball in the early days.
brendan schaub
Oh yeah, I'll check it out.
joe rogan
Back before black people figured out how to play it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, until black people in Cuba said, huh?
How you need a bat with a ball to make money?
Hey, white man, let me see this.
joe rogan
We have way better genetics.
brendan schaub
Wait till they fucking find out about hockey.
We're all fucked.
joe rogan
And we live on an island.
This is a crazy fight, man.
And we play baseball better than you.
We're coming.
joey diaz
We're coming, man.
We're fucking...
unidentified
You guys are fucked.
brendan schaub
That's why we need Steve Garvey.
unidentified
You're fucked.
joe rogan
Do you remember Steve Garvey?
He had forearms that didn't even look like they belonged on a person.
It's like, who shaved down that gorilla?
He gave it a baseball bat.
These forearms...
It was almost like his forearms were...
Like someone sawed off the last...
Reggie Jackson was that way.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
He was so thick.
It was retarded.
eddie bravo
Hey, Brennan, did you grow up a baseball fan?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Did you ever play like charades?
Like, guess who I am?
And you like bat like a guy?
You did that too?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
I had Steve Garvey as well.
This is my Steve Garvey.
I still got...
You know some things you'll never forget?
It was just like...
brendan schaub
And people knew what it was?
joey diaz
Brian Downey.
eddie bravo
Remember Brian Downey from the Angels?
brendan schaub
I'm a little younger.
eddie bravo
Rod Carew?
brendan schaub
No, I'm talking like Brian Sandberg.
Mark Grace.
bryan callen
We're talking about baseball balls.
joe rogan
MMA is going on.
bryan callen
Are you watching Wonderboy?
Look at Wonderboy counter and catch him.
joe rogan
Fight companions just jumped the shark.
We just jumped the shark.
brendan schaub
When Eddie starts talking baseball, I'm fucking in.
joe rogan
Hey man, Wonderboy just landed a slick combination there.
bryan callen
Yes, he did.
joe rogan
I think I started this baseball thing and I apologize.
brendan schaub
No, I dig it.
joe rogan
Look at Wonderboy with these combinations.
bryan callen
Life is too short to watch baseball.
It takes too long.
joe rogan
But what about soccer?
I've been trying to watch soccer lately.
brendan schaub
Soccer's fun, brother.
Soccer's fun, right?
Especially now with the Copa America Cup.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's been interesting, man.
America's in the semis.
I'm not really trying to do this by nationality.
brendan schaub
You have to.
joe rogan
I'm trying to do this.
Nope.
Nope.
No, I don't.
You have to.
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
I give up.
USA. This is the first time ever in my life I've had a chance to acknowledge athletes from other countries as if the countries that we all enjoy watching perform, I'm not a part of this competition.
brendan schaub
You are.
You're a goddamn American, Joe.
joe rogan
I'm enjoying watching various...
brendan schaub
Just like you cheer for Chris Weidman against Jacare.
joe rogan
I would not.
brendan schaub
I can't.
I know, I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
I can't do it.
I don't allow myself.
brendan schaub
It's your job.
joe rogan
I don't allow myself.
eddie bravo
It's just a reason to unite, like for whatever, whether it's bullshit or it's like legit, it's like a whatever, let's have a reason to unite.
Let's just, let's fucking start a league.
brendan schaub
USA versus Columbia.
eddie bravo
Just so we unite.
brendan schaub
Fuck you, Columbia.
On this day.
Fuck you, Columbia.
joe rogan
Maybe.
eddie bravo
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.
Allegiance.
There's nothing wrong with getting down and...
brendan schaub
I have a USA soccer jersey and I wear it proud.
joe rogan
Naked, just a hard-on, soccer jersey, soccer jersey for Elton John sunglasses, Daniel Boone raccoon hat, out of a real raccoon that he caught, eaten out of his garbage, killed it with a rock.
bryan callen
Wonderboy is impossible to touch.
You can't touch Wonderboy.
joe rogan
What am I talking about, Brian?
Any idea at all?
bryan callen
Sorry, buddy, I'm so into this fight, I can't help it.
joe rogan
Oh!
brendan schaub
Good job by Gully.
bryan callen
I heard Tiger or something from one of you.
brendan schaub
Definitely no Tigers.
joe rogan
Don't worry about it, bro.
brendan schaub
I'm saying I love soccer.
joe rogan
We're talking about Charlie Sheen and AIDS. I can't.
bryan callen
Now I'm watching this thing of beauty, this poetry in motion.
Both of them.
But Wonderboy is untouchable.
You can't touch Wonderboy.
He's got a hickey on his neck.
joe rogan
Why don't you narrate it for us, Brian?
He's got a hickey.
bryan callen
His sidekick is beautiful.
He's catching.
He's winning this fight.
And he's winning it decisively.
brendan schaub
Who's winning this fight?
bryan callen
Wonderboy.
brendan schaub
No, you're full of shit.
bryan callen
He keeps hitting Rory.
brendan schaub
Octagon control, Brian.
bryan callen
No, he keeps hitting Rory.
He keeps hitting him.
joe rogan
Let's all be honest.
We haven't been paying attention enough to say who's winning.
I've been watching it like a hawk.
brendan schaub
As I was breaking down USA Hockey vs.
Columbia, I was watching LeGon.
bryan callen
No, Wonderboy hasn't been touched.
brendan schaub
I might be lying.
bryan callen
He's punching Rory over and over again.
Not hard, but he's connecting to his fans.
joe rogan
Brian, you might want to stay offline for a couple of days after this one.
unidentified
You might want to lay low.
joe rogan
Definitely don't check your Twitter.
brendan schaub
You might want to lay low.
joe rogan
Definitely stay away from Facebook.
bryan callen
I'm Brian Callen, kids.
I'll be in Florida.
I'll be in Off the Hook County in Naples.
June 23rd, 24th, 25th.
brendan schaub
Come see me.
joe rogan
Sometimes it's better to just watch it and breathe.
You don't have to talk.
bryan callen
Listen, I get excited.
Look at this.
joe rogan
I've made mistakes.
bryan callen
Watch this, boys.
joe rogan
I've made mistakes.
brendan schaub
That didn't land, B. No, it did.
bryan callen
It did.
brendan schaub
No, that didn't land.
joe rogan
No, it did, dude.
brendan schaub
That landed.
bryan callen
Of course you did.
joe rogan
Talking a little too Decisively.
eddie bravo
If you're going to Commentate on the fights I get excited, bro.
bryan callen
I can't help it.
brendan schaub
It'd be better if you're More educated.
eddie bravo
Do it in a Brazilian accent.
At least.
bryan callen
Vasil, Vasil.
eddie bravo
Make it entertaining.
unidentified
You want to say something Say it in the accent So we get something out of it.
joe rogan
Pretend you're some Ridiculous person That we don't know Instead of our friend Brian Who's saying retarded shit.
eddie bravo
I like your Brazilian voice, so if you're going to say something about the fight, just give me an accent.
bryan callen
I'll do him as an Englishman.
joe rogan
Hey, have you ever gotten to get...
Hold on a second.
brendan schaub
Oh, that was terrible.
joe rogan
Hold on a second.
Have we ever gotten him together with Renato?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
What?
bryan callen
Renato.
brendan schaub
That'd be hilarious.
How is that possible?
bryan callen
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
eddie bravo
We've talked about that forever.
joe rogan
How is that possible?
eddie bravo
Exactly.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
This week.
Brian, are you around this week?
bryan callen
No, I'm going to Florida.
joe rogan
When are you leaving for Florida?
unidentified
Wednesday.
bryan callen
I'll be leaving for the Off the Hook Comedy Club in Naples June 22nd to perform June 23rd, 24th, and 25th.
brendan schaub
What's in your fucking mouth?
joe rogan
Pickles!
Don't chew into the mic, you fuck.
bryan callen
I'm not!
joe rogan
You know how many goddamn complaints I get about you chewing into the mic?
unidentified
I'm not!
brendan schaub
If you smack into the mic...
joe rogan
You just did!
brendan schaub
No, I'm not!
joe rogan
Son of a bitch!
Stay off Twitter.
I'm telling you, for at least a week.
brendan schaub
You might want to lay low.
I didn't mean to talk to you.
You might want to lay low for a couple days.
bryan callen
I always do.
I always do anyway.
I've got to step up my Twitter game.
Guys, four minutes, 35 seconds.
joe rogan
See, that front leg sidekick is nasty.
bryan callen
Wonderboy's winning.
joe rogan
The difference between Wonderboy and anybody...
Well, Raymond Daniels, for sure.
But between Wonderboy and a lot of guys that you'll spar is that he can hurt you with that front leg sidekick to the body.
That front leg sidekick to the body has got a real snap to it.
Whereas a lot of guys are just...
They do it, a lot of times they touch you with the ball of the foot more than they're hitting you with like the side blade or the heel.
But Wonderboy's stuffing it in there.
Oh, he's too hard to do it.
Oh, good left hook!
Oh, that right hand!
brendan schaub
Oh, good left hook!
bryan callen
He's catching him!
joe rogan
Very nice.
Rory caught him with that left hand.
That right arm across the face and that left arm extended, very interesting.
Dude, how do you fucking judge this fight?
Archie Moore style.
bryan callen
I mean, come on.
Wonderboy's catching him.
brendan schaub
You gotta think about octagon control, Brian.
It factors into...
bryan callen
Does it matter when you're getting...
When he's punching him, though, Brennan?
brendan schaub
Look, he's landing stuff, too, though.
bryan callen
Not really, Bubba.
brendan schaub
I disagree, Bubba.
joe rogan
Honestly, this is a very good fight.
bryan callen
It's a great fight, but look...
unidentified
Oh!
bryan callen
These guys are so amazing.
Oh, the kick to the body!
brendan schaub
Roy just caught him with a left hook hard.
bryan callen
I know it's true, but...
I know you want Rory to win and I love Rory and I don't know them.
joe rogan
Just shut the fuck up.
I hate to have to say that.
bryan callen
Come on, man.
brendan schaub
If Bryan was a judge, we'd have to kill him.
joe rogan
Just watch the goddamn fight.
bryan callen
Look, guys, I think I'm being accurate here.
I'm being fair.
joe rogan
It's a very good fight.
bryan callen
Look at Rory's face.
brendan schaub
The numbers would agree with you, Bryan.
bryan callen
Oh, and his face.
joe rogan
Sneaky-ass right hand.
brendan schaub
The CompuStrike would agree with you, Bryan.
I'm just saying octagon control and significant strikes, Rory might be winning.
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
brendan schaub
And it's in fucking Canada.
bryan callen
Murray's not coming close to winning, bub.
He's just not.
I'm sorry.
He's not.
brendan schaub
You don't know shit.
bryan callen
I've been watching this.
joe rogan
Let's stop worrying about the end of the goddamn fight and enjoy the fucking fight, which is playing right in front of our eyes.
bryan callen
You guys are talking about soccer.
joe rogan
Stop arguing about who won while it's actually happening, you fuckheads.
I'm not really mad.
brendan schaub
He's just passionate.
bryan callen
I'm just playing.
unidentified
I'm sorry baby.
I didn't mean it.
joe rogan
He needs to stop.
He needs to stop.
bryan callen
You're passionate.
brendan schaub
Well, control...
Well, that doesn't make sense.
unidentified
Damn.
brendan schaub
Jamie?
bryan callen
Listen, man.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this!
Rory pulled him to the ground!
Look at this!
unidentified
God, does that...
brendan schaub
But again, the judges, when you get pulled to the ground, they're viewing it as Wannaboy got a takedown.
joe rogan
Well, Rory is trying to attack him from his back.
He felt like that was a good idea, right?
Is that what happened?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he pulled him.
unidentified
He pulled God.
joe rogan
He pulled him down, right?
I'm not imagining that, am I? No.
brendan schaub
That fucking happened.
eddie bravo
Wonder Boy with the hard elbows.
joe rogan
Hard elbows.
brendan schaub
This might lose...
eddie bravo
You can't pull side control.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
eddie bravo
You want to pull guard.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
Dude, this might lose Roy the fight.
joe rogan
And these Wonder Boy elbows are pretty fucking hard.
brendan schaub
The fight's so close, and then when you pull fucking side control...
joe rogan
You know, Eddie, you were one of the first guys to say that.
It was before one of Crow Cop's fights.
You and I were talking and you were saying like when you get a guy who's like a real experienced striker, they can generate some power in like a real close area.
Like you were noticing that.
Like those guys who could do ground and pound from inside the guard even.
eddie bravo
Well you see it with Vanderlei in Pride.
Back in the Pride days, you see Vanderlei, he wanted to stay standing but he was rarely in the guard.
joe rogan
Oh he hurt him!
eddie bravo
He hurt Rory!
bryan callen
He hurt Rory!
Oh no.
brendan schaub
It looks like he hurt Rory's eye.
joe rogan
I don't know what he hit him with.
I think he hit him in the nose, but I think he hit him with a left hand.
Rory's covering up.
What did he hit him with?
Oh yeah, he's bleeding heavy out of his nose.
brendan schaub
His nose is fucked up.
joe rogan
It's that same nose that he broke in the Robbie Lawler fight.
brendan schaub
Look at Wonder Boy's cardio.
joe rogan
Did I really just say that's the same nose you broke in the Robbie Lawler fight Maybe the greatest Dude, 42 seconds left.
bryan callen
I know.
joe rogan
I was like, oh yeah, he's only got one of them.
unidentified
It was the same last straw.
brendan schaub
That's so stupid.
joe rogan
If I was UFC, I'd fire me.
unidentified
Me too.
joe rogan
I'd call me up right now.
brendan schaub
I'd give you a bonus.
I'd give you a fucking promotion.
joe rogan
I'd be like, that's enough.
unidentified
That's enough.
joe rogan
We've seen enough.
Brian Stan.
unidentified
Brian Stan, please step in.
brendan schaub
Would you ever say this?
joe rogan
Rory's bleeding bad out of that nose, man.
That does not look good.
All jokes aside.
unidentified
That same nose that he used to breathe out of when he was five.
bryan callen
Oh, wheel kick.
Oh no.
Oh no.
unidentified
That's the same nose he breathed out of when he was two.
brendan schaub
He broke that same nose.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the nose.
brendan schaub
That's that nose.
unidentified
That's Wonder Boy.
joe rogan
First came out of his mom and smelled the fresh, sanitized air of the hospital room.
That's that same nose.
unidentified
That's that same nose, son.
joe rogan
Well, okay, so Brian, since you were paying attention so closely, much more than any of us, you really do know how to judge a fight.
bryan callen
100% without a doubt, Wonderboy, and without a doubt.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and look at the strength numbers.
eddie bravo
15,000.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you think?
brendan schaub
It definitely looks like Thompson won the fight.
joe rogan
What do you think?
You think Rory McDonald might have got the nod because of black helicopters and chemtrails?
unidentified
Because of Tower 7?
Did he get the nod?
eddie bravo
Don't start with that shit again, okay?
Don't start with that scary shit.
joe rogan
I'm kidding.
unidentified
I'm kidding.
Please don't go into it.
joe rogan
It's scary.
Were you paying attention enough to really give an honest reading of who won the fight?
eddie bravo
Yes.
I have to say, Wonderboy definitely won.
bryan callen
Thank you.
joe rogan
I have to say, I'm way too high.
brendan schaub
I've had too many drinks.
joe rogan
I was super impressed with two things.
One, I was super impressed with Roy's that weird defense he's using with that high left hand and that right hand almost across his face like Archie Moore style.
And definitely he was really good at controlling the distance.
But I think as the rounds went on, you started to see Wonderboy getting a little more comfortable.
Ever relaxing into that sniping, jumping back and forth style.
And that's when the tide started to change, it looked like to me, where it started to establish that Wonderboy was getting slightly better in each exchange.
And that's what we talked about actually before the fight started.
I was saying if Wonderboy can land one or more punches in each exchange than Rory can, that's significant and that adds up over time.
That's exactly what happened.
brendan schaub
50-45?
unidentified
50, 45?
bryan callen
That's Wonderboy.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy.
unidentified
50, 45?
brendan schaub
That's insane.
bryan callen
Boys, I've got to go do some stand-up comedy.
I love all three of you.
joe rogan
I love you too, bitch.
bryan callen
Jamie, I love you.
Jay, I love you.
I love you too.
I'll see you boys later.
joe rogan
And you were 100% correct on the scoring.
Good call, B. You nailed it.
bryan callen
I know.
joe rogan
You know what, guys?
bryan callen
Fighting is my secret garden, guys.
So please tweet me.
Please tweet me at Ryan Callen.
joe rogan
Really, really high-level fight, man.
I think we can all agree this.
Sit down, Bubba, for one second.
Let's wrap this up.
You don't have a show until...
You have a half hour.
Sit down.
Fuck those people.
There's always a guy.
There's always a guy.
But this was like a super interesting style fight, right?
As well as...
bryan callen
It's almost the new blood, right?
I mean, Wonderboy is the new blood.
He just is.
joe rogan
But so is Rory.
So is Rory.
brendan schaub
Rory's younger and more dynamic.
You have to give Wonderboy the title shot here.
For Rory, it's a tough road because now he goes into free agency.
bryan callen
I'll make a call.
Robbie Lawler is the baddest motherfucker on the planet.
Wonder Boy will beat him.
brendan schaub
I agree, B. It's a bad matchup.
bryan callen
He'll beat him the same way he beat Johnny Hendricks.
It's a very tough matchup.
brendan schaub
I agree 100% with Brian on that comment.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you can't dismiss Tyron Woodley.
bryan callen
Yes, you can.
They're already fighting.
brendan schaub
They're already fighting.
bryan callen
They'll do the same thing Tyron Woodley did to Johnny Hendricks.
joe rogan
No, but I'm saying that Robbie and Tyron Woodley are fighting.
You can't pretend that you know what's going to happen in that fight.
bryan callen
I can and I will.
brendan schaub
That's what we're doing.
bryan callen
As usual.
joe rogan
What do you think is going to happen in that fight?
With Tyron Woodley and Robbie Lawler, you think you know what's going to happen in that fight?
bryan callen
I think that Robbie Lawler...
Are you on pills?
No, listen.
unidentified
Did you have a Red Bull before this show?
bryan callen
Then I got to get out of here.
Listen, let me drop this.
I think Robbie Lawler has something that I've never seen in a fighter, and that is in round five, and I'm not exaggerating, he's more pumped, has more energy than he does in round one, and on top of that, there's something indestructible about that guy.
joe rogan
Are you a theater major?
bryan callen
Yes, I am.
And so is Paul Felder, and I leave you with that fucking thought.
Brian Kellen, off the hook comedy!
joe rogan
B-R-Y-A-N-C-A-L-L-E-N at Twitter.
brendan schaub
That fucking guy.
joe rogan
He's such a savage.
brendan schaub
So funny.
joe rogan
He's such a fucking savage.
He's so funny.
brendan schaub
Did he leave?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's gotta go.
brendan schaub
He's gotta show.
joe rogan
He's gotta show.
brendan schaub
I don't know where to show that.
joe rogan
So this is like exactly what we said before the fight out.
You know, what I was saying that if Wonderboy can just get a couple extra punches in each exchange or one every now and again, those are going to accumulate.
Ooh, I don't like that open hand.
He landed a palm to the face first.
brendan schaub
Rory is young, but he's had some miles on him.
joe rogan
That Robbie Lawler fight was absolutely brutal.
And this was a less brutal fight.
But yeah, definitely took some shots.
brendan schaub
And Wonder Boy for sure gets the next title shot.
You just beat the number one guy in the world.
joe rogan
Watching the Robbie Lawler fight again, I almost forgot.
Not really forgot, but I had to be reminded a little bit of how primal that fight was.
brendan schaub
Barbaric.
joe rogan
Those guys bared it all.
brendan schaub
But the thing is, I like Wonder Boy's chances against Woodley or...
Fucking Robbie Lawless.
joe rogan
He's super dangerous.
brendan schaub
I like his chances against both of them.
joe rogan
He's super dangerous, especially if they take a chance to try to hurt him.
unidentified
Oof.
joe rogan
See, the thing about him...
brendan schaub
If they open up, it's not going to decision.
If you take a chance, he's going to capitalize on it.
joe rogan
He can do that little slide back, counter left hand.
brendan schaub
Fucking nasty, man.
joe rogan
And he can fight from southpaw or orthodox, too, man.
You know, when he fights from southpaw, a lot of it is those sidekicks, those front leg sidekicks.
But goddamn, man, he can do that from the left side, too.
He can throw those front leg sidekicks.
He's been doing karate since he was three.
brendan schaub
Since he was in diapers.
joe rogan
He's literally that guy that you always joke about.
Eddie Broad would always joke about it.
He goes, if you took a dude who was doing karate from the time he was three...
It was like Super Ninja that was like 52-0 and you taught him how to stand up and avoid takedowns.
How good would he do against most of these strikers?
You and I used to have these conversations.
It's almost like you created this dude with your imagination.
eddie bravo
One of the conversations we used to have is back in the dark days of the UFC when it was underground on DirecTV only, only on satellite, is the days where we have shows like this, you know, on networks with baseball scores on the bottom, and they're in these big ESPN-type studios.
joe rogan
Remember that?
eddie bravo
Like, one of these days, that's going to happen, and it's like nothing now.
It's everywhere.
unidentified
What do you do?
brendan schaub
Where does Rory McDonald go from here?
He's tested for ANC. Well, you know what?
joe rogan
It was a very close fight, but he lost a decision to Wonderboy, who right now is the best in the fucking world.
That's standing up and doing this.
brendan schaub
Doesn't matter.
joe rogan
That's sliding me out.
No, no, no, no, no.
What I'm saying is, he's still a few years younger than Wonder Boy, and I think he learns from this fight and gets even better.
But I think this is a goddamn wake-up call to the rest of the division.
This Wonder Boy dude is legit as fuck.
And his angles and all this shit we're seeing, this creativity, this ability to stay in the pocket and not get hit nearly as much, throw a lot of dangerous shit.
Look at these angles, man.
Tagged him there with that left hand.
brendan schaub
All I'm saying is, if you're Rory McDonald, he lost the number one guy, now he lost the number two guy.
unidentified
What do you do?
joe rogan
Go back to the drawing board.
You keep swinging.
You're 26 years old.
brendan schaub
You sign with UFC again.
You don't test free agency.
joe rogan
Who knows?
Dude, when you say free agency, no one's saying that the UFC isn't going to counter the offer and they're going to come to a nice conclusion.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying if you're Rory, just sign with UFC and try fighting for the title again.
joe rogan
I think he could absolutely be a world champion.
100%.
Bellator or in the UFC. He could be a world champion in any organization.
brendan schaub
No question, Bellator.
joe rogan
He's 26, man.
He has like four or five years before he hits his prime.
But what you're looking at with Wonderboy right now is one of the slickest, sneakiest strikers.
One of the best guys at moving back and countering.
brendan schaub
I don't see anyone beating him.
joe rogan
Long and tall.
brendan schaub
I thought Wanderboy was his toughest style-wise matchup possible.
I think he beats Woodley.
I think he beats Robbie Lawler.
I think he smokes Robbie Lawler, to be honest.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
brendan schaub
It is crazy.
joe rogan
I don't know how you could be so confident.
brendan schaub
I agree.
I just think if he got past Rory, that was his biggest test.
I thought, man, there's not a worse matchup.
A guy who can grapple, strike, do everything, and he's smart.
He's not even going to take chances.
You beat him, you're off to the races.
joe rogan
Robbie Lawler's a barbarian, dude.
brendan schaub
Straight barbarian, but he brawls.
And if you brawl with Wanderboy Thompson, that doesn't end well.
Maybe.
It's too calculated.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
Or maybe Robbie catches him.
brendan schaub
Ask his last seven opponents.
joe rogan
Maybe Robbie catches him the way Jake Allenberger caught him, and he puts him away.
That's entirely possible.
brendan schaub
Yeah, but what do you do to make him?
unidentified
Jake Allenberger.
joe rogan
Maybe he catches him the way...
brendan schaub
Spinning back at the midnight.
joe rogan
Look, totally possible as well.
What I'm saying is nobody knows what's really going to happen until they get into it.
But when I see a guy like Robbie Lawler, I see a guy that's like...
Like the physical punishment that he's taken in these chaotic wars with Hendrix and Rory.
Unless that catches up with him, you're looking at a goddamn barbarian.
brendan schaub
Straight barbarian.
joe rogan
When Robbie Lawler goes to war, he goes to war with every atom in his body.
brendan schaub
That picture has blood on his arm, for God's sake.
joe rogan
And you know who's the most dangerous fucking fight for him?
That dude right to the right of him.
brendan schaub
Damien Maia?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
brendan schaub
He's not fighting him, though.
joe rogan
He's fighting the champion.
I know, but if he ever does, Damien Maia is dangerous to everybody.
brendan schaub
Motherfucker.
eddie bravo
When does he get the title shot?
brendan schaub
It's going to be a while.
joe rogan
Well, you know what, man?
Here's the thing.
I don't understand ratings.
It's all subjective.
It seems like there's some decisions that get done rather when one guy beats another guy, and this guy agreed this guy was number three, and this guy agrees this guy's number two, but...
You know, you might have a different opinion rather than I do.
And I think it's a subjective thing.
So I try to reserve.
brendan schaub
But the UFC also trumps rankings.
Because if UFC goes, well, we want Damian to fight.
I'm going to get a fight to rank him 4 or 3. We want him to fight for the title next.
They're going to make it happen.
joe rogan
Well, Damian's an interesting guy because he's older, for sure.
brendan schaub
And he's also fought for the title in 85. Yeah.
joe rogan
And what he's been doing to guys when he gets them on the ground is nothing short of a mauling.
brendan schaub
Gunnar Nelson.
They keep tossing these young lions, these starches.
Gunnar Nelson, Neil Magny.
joe rogan
In that sense, I'm almost like I'm the enemy of two different types of people here.
I'm the enemy of the people that want to respect the rankings, because I sometimes just want to see what happens.
I want to see what happens when guys fight certain guys.
And it's one of the things that I don't necessarily like about the idea of titles.
When I see a guy like Robbie Lawler, I understand that he's the world champion, I respect that, and it's fucking amazing, but really what I care is that Robbie Lawler is Robbie Lawler.
unidentified
Which he is.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Which he is.
joe rogan
And I want to see Robbie Lawler fight other guys that are intriguing.
brendan schaub
What's better than Robbie Lewis-Thompson?
joe rogan
Two completely different matchups.
Oh, 100%.
100%.
100%.
And I'm with you.
100%.
Such a fun fight.
I like that fight as well.
I'm telling you, I also like Tyron Woodley.
unidentified
Me too.
joe rogan
I like Tyron Woodley for the oh shit factor.
I like Tyron Woodley for his ability to close the distance.
And wrestle like a motherfucker.
Wrestle like a motherfucker and serious knockout power.
I like Tyron Woodley against almost anybody.
He's dangerous, man.
brendan schaub
His striking's going to be trouble against these top guys, I think.
joe rogan
There's a lot of fucking high-level guys in the 170 division, and what's interesting to me about Damien Maia is I see what he does to guys like Rick Story, and I see what he does to guys like Neil Magny, and I go, Whoa!
brendan schaub
Woodley, Damien Maia?
joe rogan
Oh my goodness!
brendan schaub
Woodley, Damien Maia?
Will we see the strangulation?
joe rogan
Or will we see Tyron Woodley with some ridiculous Nate Marquardt-esque one-punch knockout?
unidentified
That's my dream fight.
joe rogan
Who the fuck knows, man?
But I think that's a super powerful fight, and a guy like Woodley ain't so fun to try to take down either.
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
Because you close the distance on him, he hits hard, he's fast.
brendan schaub
He can jump to guard, though.
joe rogan
Like Rory did here?
Like we dove from those legs?
brendan schaub
That really didn't pay off.
joe rogan
It looked good in the first round, though, didn't it?
brendan schaub
It looked cool, but...
joe rogan
Did someone give Wonderboy the first round?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Two judges had it 50-45.
joe rogan
What did you think about the first round?
If you had a guess, based on your shadowy memory.
unidentified
Yeah, right?
brendan schaub
Based on this fucking Pinot Noir memory.
I give the first round to Roy, and then after that, it appeared that he lost the rest of them.
joe rogan
Goddamn, I love the way Wonderboy slides in and out of these shots.
I love how he stays in the pocket, too, and throws all these angles there, and there he realized he hurt them.
brendan schaub
Dude, you're talking about a guy who realizes his stand-up potential, but he's worked on his grappling and takedown defense so much.
He was so comfortable training out of his gym in South Carolina.
He went, ah, who's the best?
Well, let's go to Weidman's camp and get annihilated for months and months and months so I can get better at 170. That's nuts.
Not too many guys do that.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
He figured it out.
unidentified
It's amazing.
brendan schaub
It's cool, man.
And he's also trained by his dad.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brendan schaub
Most of those father-son relationships are tough to bring someone else into, man.
They figured it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, they must have figured it out.
He's an interesting thing because he brings a totally new sort of a style to the top of the heap.
There's no one on the top of the heap that mimics that.
We've had the wrestlers before, you know, the Matt Hughes.
brendan schaub
Johnny Henry.
joe rogan
And Johnny Hendricks, like really powerful wrestlers.
You know, Matt Hughes would get more submissions and a lot of ground and pound victories.
And Johnny Hendricks got a lot of stand-up victories, a lot of stand-up KOs, like that crazy Fitch KO and the Martin Kampman KO. Johnny had some ridiculous one left-hand bomb KOs.
unidentified
That left-hand bomb.
joe rogan
Jesus.
So they're different in that way.
But it's real interesting when you see a guy that you haven't seen before, really.
And a karate guy like Wonderboy with his crazy undefeated kickboxing record.
brendan schaub
And you can't figure it out.
Because no one's figured it out, really.
joe rogan
George St. Pierre told me he's the best striker that he's ever sparred.
brendan schaub
I'm telling you, man.
George St. Pierre brought him to Denver.
And we're like, who's this skinny kid?
Because at the time, he was even thinking about MMA. He was just striking.
Have you seen Rush Hour where Chris Tucker gets a kick in the face like, alright, which one of y'all did it?
unidentified
I'm telling you, when he sparred with us, I was like, oh, okay, I don't know shit.
brendan schaub
I wasn't the only one that felt like that.
George St. Pierre, Nate, Shane, Nate Markhart, all of us went in and just got wrecked.
Wrecked.
We look like amateurs.
joe rogan
He's the best example of someone that knows that other style and implements it in an MMA fight.
Because that style has always been a question mark.
It's like, how come some of these national karate champion dudes haven't gotten into MMA? Because if they do, those sport karate guys and the sport taekwondo guys, more the sport karate guys in a lot of ways, because some of their matches concentrate more on punches.
A lot of them swift punches to the face.
Even the sport...
Punch, you know, one-point karate guys, the point karate where you tag a guy and they stop.
They still concentrate more on punches to the face than the Taekwondo guys.
But you can get a really good combination of the two of those techniques.
And if those guys get into MMA, man, they're so hard to hit.
Because those sport karate guys are used to just jumping back and forth and diving on each other and jumping out of the way.
Yeah, that's their whole shit.
brendan schaub
I think Wanderboy is going to set the blueprint for some of those guys because he engulfed himself into grappling.
eddie bravo
Conor McGregor is considered one of those guys, right?
He has a boxing background.
joe rogan
When I was really good at Taekwondo, when I was winning state championships, I had a karate match.
I took a fight tournament, a point karate tournament, and I fought this dude named Mafia Holloway.
He was like this big-time point karate guy.
And this guy fucked me up.
I could not...
I couldn't get a hold of them because I was used to like continuous style kicking.
I wasn't used to this dart in, like smash, dart in with a punch to the face.
They would dart in on you and then everything would stop and you'd go, oh, okay, I'm way behind on this.
Like I should have trained for this.
I trained for kickboxing or for Taekwondo, and this guy had this totally different thing.
And I remember from that one match, which didn't last very long, and I didn't get hurt in it, but I definitely got tagged.
He tagged me with a front leg sidekick to the body and a couple other things.
But I remember thinking, man, I've got to rethink my whole approach to darting in and out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because Taekwondo guys don't necessarily do that with the same explosion, the same distance covering.
And then I remember thinking, those guys are really hard to catch.
And those guys, they get really good at that thing.
And you're seeing it with that kid in Bellator.
brendan schaub
Michael Page?
joe rogan
Michael Page.
Michael Venom Page.
Same thing.
You're seeing the same thing.
brendan schaub
I'd like to see him against tougher competition.
unidentified
Yes.
eddie bravo
Did he grow up doing karate?
joe rogan
Yes, he's a bad motherfucker, dude.
He's a nasty karate champion.
eddie bravo
He got in a steam a lock in his last fight.
joe rogan
Put up his Wikipedia so we can find out what his actual credentials are.
brendan schaub
You know who walks away the hero tonight?
Cowboy.
joe rogan
Yes, absolutely.
Absolutely.
But you know what, man?
That Michael Venom page, I don't want to break from him.
No, no, it's okay.
But he's something new.
He's a unique guy, man.
brendan schaub
No one can figure him out.
joe rogan
Well, he's like way, way above the guys he's fought so far.
brendan schaub
Look who he's fighting.
joe rogan
I understand, but they don't belong in there with him.
He's amazing, man.
brendan schaub
But you know what?
That's how a guy should be built up.
joe rogan
What are we looking at here, young Jamie?
brendan schaub
That's his Wikipedia record.
joe rogan
But let's go to what his credentials are.
Let's go back to what it said.
brendan schaub
But Joe, you know what's good?
It's good he's not fighting creme la creme.
Because right now he's building his experience and he's getting his style down.
joe rogan
What does it say here, Jamie?
Can you make it larger?
What does it say?
It says, Paige describes his discipline as not karate, not taekwondo.
It's a hands-down kickboxing style that likens himself to a matador.
brendan schaub
Who the fuck wrote this Wikipedia?
This one can't have fans write Wikipedia.
joe rogan
A movement-based fighter.
His game plan is...
This is weird.
brendan schaub
It's terrible.
Some regular dude wrote this.
eddie bravo
So maybe he didn't do karate, or maybe he did and evolved his own style or something.
brendan schaub
Doesn't it have credentials?
That's interesting.
Usually they have something like awards or some shit like that.
joe rogan
Does he have any...
brendan schaub
Background, there you go.
unidentified
Background.
joe rogan
Does he have any point karate?
brendan schaub
Go to background.
Kickboxing career.
joe rogan
Wow.
Am I really wrong about his point karate background?
Did he never have point karate background?
Kickboxing.
Okay.
I knew he had that too, but I thought he was initially a point karate champion.
unidentified
Are you fucking kidding me?
I agree.
brendan schaub
I thought he was too.
joe rogan
I might have made it up.
Maybe you told me.
Maybe I told you!
brendan schaub
As an English kickboxer, karate...
Karate...
joe rogan
Karateika?
What does it say?
brendan schaub
Sport Karateika.
joe rogan
Sport Karate.
Oh, okay.
He did...
brendan schaub
Yeah, fuck you.
That counts.
joe rogan
Alright, yeah.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
No, that's exactly it.
Sport Karate.
brendan schaub
For a second there, it got weird.
joe rogan
Yeah, I thought...
Well, I don't know what he accomplished.
I thought he was like a very high-level guy.
unidentified
Me too.
joe rogan
But at the very...
brendan schaub
Sounds like he's just a guy who took a Taekwondo class.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
unidentified
I think he fought.
brendan schaub
It sounds like he took Rex Kwon Do and just fucking...
joe rogan
I think he fought sport karate is what they're saying.
brendan schaub
Nah, not according to that.
joe rogan
I think that's what it said.
brendan schaub
He hates taekwondo according to that Wikipedia.
joe rogan
But it said sport karateka, right?
brendan schaub
Is that what it said?
It said watch Eastbound and Down and Google karateka and then just fucking kickbox on the weekends.
joe rogan
It wasn't Eastbound and Down.
It was the karate one.
What was that?
brendan schaub
You don't talk about it?
joe rogan
It's fucking great.
brendan schaub
Fist of Fury?
joe rogan
No.
What the fuck is it called, Eddie?
brendan schaub
He watched Best of the Best and got his black belt.
joe rogan
That fucking...
What was that?
jamie vernon
He was working with an association called the Points Fighting League, where it was a Team Points League.
unidentified
Oh, whoa.
joe rogan
Team Points League.
unidentified
I don't know what happened with it.
joe rogan
Look at this cowboy with no shirt on but the cowboy hat on.
unidentified
Powerful.
joe rogan
Who allowed that to happen?
How many gay guys are jerking off to this right now?
A million?
brendan schaub
Seven.
joe rogan
More than seven.
brendan schaub
Well, I'm at seven million.
joe rogan
Powerful Brendan Chubb.
brendan schaub
I love Cowboy.
joe rogan
What was the other question that we had?
We forgot already.
brendan schaub
Hey, I'll tell you what was fun.
Cowboy was here recently.
I took him out of it.
Kenny.
And took him to creation.
And he's just fucking so raw.
unidentified
Hey!
I need another green juice over here.
brendan schaub
I'm like, hey, bro.
Fucking relax, man.
joe rogan
How about you stop selling him out on TV? Nah, that's Cowboy, man.
brendan schaub
He's the best.
unidentified
He's the best.
brendan schaub
Cowboy and Abbot Kenny mixed together like water and oil.
joe rogan
Look at these fucking combinations, man.
brendan schaub
My God.
He was the highlight of the night.
He dismantled Kote.
joe rogan
That left hook, man.
brendan schaub
He's too quick, man.
joe rogan
Look how good his angles are, man.
Look at those two right hands he landed.
brendan schaub
He didn't get touched either.
Kote's such a dangerous fight.
joe rogan
Dude, he beat him down.
That was ferocious.
I really like Donald Cerrone at 170, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, remember the first fight when that girl kicked the other girl in the titty and she turned around?
joe rogan
That's not what happened.
Her foot came down and she pulled her bra...
her titty got...
breast...
It was illegal, by the way.
brendan schaub
It's illegal?
No, legal.
joe rogan
It is legal.
I think what happened was...
brendan schaub
She stopped like this.
joe rogan
Come on, bro.
Well, she kicked her in the face.
But as her foot was coming down, the foot caught the bra.
The bra pulled down.
brendan schaub
The titty.
joe rogan
And, um...
You know what happened, folks.
brendan schaub
But then she did again and kicked her right in the solar place.
joe rogan
Well, that was a different one.
brendan schaub
And then the girl turned around and ran.
joe rogan
She smashed her.
I still, to this day, I want to pretend that I remember a kick before that kick to the body.
I don't know if I'm right or not, but either way.
brendan schaub
There's three kicks.
joe rogan
That was a beast of a fight.
It was awesome.
brendan schaub
Good night of fights.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it was.
brendan schaub
And Callan watched every single one like a beast.
joe rogan
He called the Wonder Boy fight.
brendan schaub
He was into every single one.
eddie bravo
He was on fire.
unidentified
He was on fire.
brendan schaub
He was.
He was in the zone.
joe rogan
We tried to get him to shut the fuck up several times.
brendan schaub
We did.
Many times.
We tried to get him into talking fucking alligator, octopus.
eddie bravo
Getting Joey to make a phone call during the main event, like in the third round or the fourth round, like Howard Harold Letterman giving his...
Score.
How cool would that be?
joe rogan
That's the greatest idea ever.
brendan schaub
That's a great idea.
eddie bravo
He would totally do that.
unidentified
Unless he's doing stand-up.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo with the home run.
brendan schaub
That's a great idea.
eddie bravo
What would he say?
joe rogan
Listen, cocksucker.
eddie bravo
If he called in in the fourth round, what would he say?
joe rogan
WONDERBOY! It's the fucking man.
unidentified
You understand me, dog?
eddie bravo
Look at the way he's moving.
joe rogan
That's some old school game of death type shit.
He's gonna go into the corner.
unidentified
He's gonna pull out four knives and cut his own fucking chest.
Come out and make foot to face, bitch.
What about it?
joey diaz
It's a great idea.
joe rogan
He's one of them North Carolina Christians, dawg.
You ain't never seen those people before.
They're throwing sidekicks in the swamps.
unidentified
South Carolina.
brendan schaub
South Carolina, Jake.
unidentified
South Carolina, North Carolina, East Carolina.
joey diaz
Shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
I'm trying to drop science.
Those people, they're eating that fucking gumbo.
That gumbo with the crawfish in it, dawg.
eddie bravo
It's something about the crawfish.
joe rogan
Something about that hot spice, dawg.
brendan schaub
That's a great fucking call, Eddie.
joe rogan
They live in the fucking swamps.
Come on, man.
unidentified
You ever see that fucking swamp people show?
joe rogan
It would just go on some swamp people show rant, and you'd be like, yes, where do I zon?
brendan schaub
Yeah, you got it, man.
joe rogan
Where do I donate?
eddie bravo
I'm going to prank calling him right now, see if he answers?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Yes, of course.
100% prank call Joey Deans.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
You know, these are really interesting, man.
I enjoyed this.
I was watching this earlier.
unidentified
The breakdown?
joe rogan
Yeah, I was working out, and I was watching these guys do their different point of views, like what one guy has to do to win, what another guy has to do to win.
Very interesting.
Very good.
Very good.
brendan schaub
I like it a lot.
You know who I think is the best at it?
Chael Sonnen.
If you watch him on ESPN, he's a fucking monster at breaking them down.
joe rogan
I think he's fantastic at it.
You know who I think might have a slight edge?
Dominick Cruz.
I think Dominick Cruz is the best at it.
brendan schaub
He's a fucking monster.
joe rogan
I think he's the best at it.
brendan schaub
I think Chael's the best.
joe rogan
I think they're both fantastic.
unidentified
Oh, you haven't even seen it then.
joe rogan
Chaos, Joey Diaz!
unidentified
Chaos!
brendan schaub
You missed the good work, Diaz!
joey diaz
I know Donald Cerrone won and I know Wonderboy won.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
And it's no fucking surprise.
Bobby Lowe reaped that fucking Lowe last time.
It was stick, so he had to come back this time, negotiate the contract.
These guys all got ahead of themselves.
He's gonna have to put on those shiny shoes on again.
unidentified
You know, whatever the fuck he did last time.
joey diaz
Thomas Cerrone, you know, I know he nullified the right hand of Patrick Cotet.
That dude is great, man.
I mean, you know, what do you want from me?
He's a fucking, he's an animal.
He just can't beat those onions.
joe rogan
Do you think that Donald Cerrone is better at 170, Joey?
joey diaz
I didn't really watch him.
Bro, he fights so much.
It's like us doing stand-up.
He's fucking great.
brendan schaub
It's true.
joe rogan
It's true.
joey diaz
You know, he loses one out of every five, one out of every six.
He's doing something.
I don't know if he's in Greg Jackson's camp anymore.
joe rogan
He is.
He still is.
He still does.
He has his own camp, too.
He's got this thing called Bad Motherfucker Ranch.
He's got a ranch in New Mexico.
brendan schaub
It's close to Jackson's, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
No, I'm sorry, man.
I had to do a benefit.
It was a nightmare.
They had no air conditioning.
unidentified
Yeah.
That's a requirement in your contract.
joe rogan
Oh, that's ridiculous.
You can't have hot comedy.
You can have hot yoga.
You can't have hot comedy.
joey diaz
Holy fuck.
It was like doing comedy in Philly.
The hair's always down.
You ever notice that?
joe rogan
No, I never noticed that.
joey diaz
When you go to Philly Helium, the fucking hair's always...
joe rogan
That's funny.
joey diaz
Last week the hair was working.
We're sorry.
So, it was fucking hot dog.
I'm happy I'm not hot dog.
That was it, kids.
Everything alright up there?
joe rogan
Everything's beautiful, man.
unidentified
We miss you, brother.
joey diaz
I'm watching it right now.
What happened was something fucked up because it taped the auto racing instead.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
It switched to Fox Sports 2. Yeah.
joey diaz
And I'm catching the fight now with Wonderboy.
joe rogan
Yeah, Joey.
joey diaz
It really surprised me.
joe rogan
There was some crazy thing that happened with Fox Sports 1 and Fox Sports 2. Jamie nailed it.
It changed over while we were watching it.
joey diaz
And then all of a sudden a bunch of fucking cars started coming at me.
But I don't give a fuck.
You know why, Doug?
Because I also taped O.J. Made in America Part 5. It's fucking brilliant, Joey!
eddie bravo
Where's that on?
unidentified
How do you tape that?
brendan schaub
Is that on Netflix?
joey diaz
It's 30 for 30 on ESPN. You know what the beauty is about O.J. Made in America?
unidentified
This is Brendan Shaw, Joey.
brendan schaub
What's up, brother?
joey diaz
You know what's beautiful about that show?
Please explain it to Joe Rogan.
I'm right here.
That could have been OJ. That could have been Brad Pitt.
That could have been Justin Bieber.
You gotta watch it, Joe Rogan, because it breaks it down all the way to he was at USC. And the most interesting part, Brendan Sharp, tell him when fucking Muhammad Ali put that thing together.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and he said, fuck that, I'm not black, I'm OJ, and separated himself from blacks and himself.
joey diaz
I think John, the cop, has the best analogy of what happened to O.J.
joe rogan
Big John McCarthy?
joey diaz
Yeah, he's got the best analogy.
Because in one of the things, Mark Furman went to his house before.
brendan schaub
Mark Furman.
joey diaz
And he had a baseball bat in his hand.
And Mark Furman told him twice to put the fucking bat down.
And the third time, he had to take out his stick.
And then O.J. was just glaring at him, and then he came back.
And they said that when that guy dies, they have to take his brain.
Because he's definitely got the same shit that all these other football players have.
brendan schaub
CTE, Joey.
joey diaz
It's CTE, brother.
brendan schaub
It's called CTE. They're saying if the trial was today, they would argue CTE clinically and say...
joey diaz
They would argue CTE because that's what it is.
unidentified
He has a different style of CTE. That motherfuckin' thing in the pussy is snaps.
joey diaz
You know what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
He's crazy.
joe rogan
What does CTE stand for?
Chronic Traumatic Encephalogy or something like that?
Is that what it is?
joey diaz
Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan, episode four.
They actually show her, and they break down exactly what happened.
joe rogan
It's tough to see, too.
Yeah, chronic traumatic encephalopathy.
brendan schaub
Punch drunk.
joey diaz
Let me tell you what that is.
Nobody could have done something.
Brendan Schaub, did you see episode four of it?
brendan schaub
You bet your sweet ass I did, Joey.
joey diaz
How fucking sweet was it, dog?
They broke it down, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
How so?
joey diaz
It was animalistic, what he did to them.
brendan schaub
You could none of them.
joey diaz
20 steroids, Gorilla Biscuits, Deckard the Roblin, Rafael Dosagno, Verdum, the old Fedor Russian thing.
That old Russian track team.
That motherfucker, bro, that was wild, Joe Rubio.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
joey diaz
He went to her, went to him, got him in a chokehold, and just started slamming, bro.
joe rogan
Allegedly?
joey diaz
Not allegedly.
joe rogan
How do they know he did it 100%?
joey diaz
Well, it's not him that he did it.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
joey diaz
There's no way.
joe rogan
So they went through everything that he did.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right.
joey diaz
Then he went and choked him, caught him, said he was on the floor against two fences, bro.
joe rogan
I'm not doubting.
I'm not doubting that they figured this out.
brendan schaub
He did it 100%.
joe rogan
I'm not doubting.
He can't hear me.
I'm not doubting that they figured this out.
But you know, the one thing that perplexes me as a dummy, how do they figure that out?
By looking at where the bodies are?
Like by the marks on the ground?
Like how do they figure that out?
brendan schaub
The blood at his house, at her house.
joe rogan
Right, but it's...
joey diaz
Right.
Oh.
brendan schaub
His hands were all fucked up.
joey diaz
Oh, boy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and also, Joey, they're saying it was such a hate crime that when he hit her in the throat, it basically decapitated her.
So they're saying that it would have to be such a passion of crime, like he had such a love for her, when you hit someone that hard to sever their neck and almost cut her head off, it had to have been a passion of crime.
joe rogan
Could you imagine?
Let's assume that he did it.
joey diaz
You know how much his attorney bills were?
brendan schaub
Five mil, right?
joey diaz
50,000 a day.
brendan schaub
Whoa.
joey diaz
And he paid him, Joe Rogan.
You know how?
joe rogan
How?
joey diaz
Autographs from inside jail.
He was fucking making 3.5 million.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
joey diaz
With autographs.
Because the autographs went up.
They were saying that they were signed inside the jail.
brendan schaub
Hey Joey, how about most of the defense team is dead?
Karma's a motherfucker.
joey diaz
You know what?
The Jew ain't dead.
And that was the baddest motherfucker ever.
His name is Barry Sheck.
They got him on the show.
Dropping knowledge, Joe Rogan.
brendan schaub
I haven't seen part five, brother.
I've only seen four.
joe rogan
Hey, is there a way to...
I haven't seen any of these episodes.
brendan schaub
Is there a way?
joe rogan
Assuming I've lost my mind and I want to be terrified.
brendan schaub
No, it's brilliant.
unidentified
It's so cool.
It's all up on the rack.
joey diaz
- That's the only guy you get, Doug.
That guy, you had to hear the stories about court, how they would act when the cameras would come up.
brendan schaub
It was a fucking science trial. - Even, hey Joey, even to the way they dressed, they had a whole gameplay.
Even to their ties, their suits, they had a whole game plan.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
Fucking, it's brilliant.
This is the best documentary I've ever seen.
joe rogan
Damn.
brendan schaub
It's amazing.
It paints a different story on how O.J. Simpson, he wouldn't associate himself as being black.
He didn't view himself as black.
He viewed himself as O.J. So he always thought he was bigger than the race.
It's so crazy the way they painted the picture.
joe rogan
But is that editorial choice?
Or is that based on what they knew about?
brendan schaub
That's based off his friends and family.
joey diaz
But you know what they left out?
They only mentioned it one time, guys.
They left out the cocaine.
They only mentioned it one time.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that's a big red flag there.
Hey, there's a documentary you can watch on YouTube.
brendan schaub
Oh, here goes, Eddie.
eddie bravo
OJ, the Untold Story.
brendan schaub
His son didn't do it, Eddie.
eddie bravo
Watch that one.
unidentified
Is it on YouTube?
eddie bravo
Is it on YouTube?
brendan schaub
Can I find it on Netflix?
eddie bravo
Oh, no, it's at the library, bro.
brendan schaub
It's at the library.
joe rogan
It's made in America on the tomato meter.
joey diaz
It's ranked 100. He had CTE, but then you sprinkle that cocaine in it.
eddie bravo
Why didn't they talk about the cocaine?
joe rogan
Hmm, that's interesting.
eddie bravo
That's a suspect.
joe rogan
Well, you know what's interesting, Joey?
I said what's interesting is one of the doctors that was somehow involved in the case back in the day was on TV recently, and he was talking about the new discoveries about CTE, the new understanding about CTE, and they said that it is very possible that they might have actually introduced that into the trial back then if they knew what they knew now, which is crazy, right?
unidentified
Absolutely.
joey diaz
It just makes sense because John McCartney hit it on the head.
He goes, that guy had the different CTE, the shit that, you know, you don't fucking, it just comes and goes.
joe rogan
It comes and goes.
joey diaz
It is completely different, dog.
He was an American hero that killed a white woman.
You gotta see this Joe Rogan, how they break it down.
It's just a long documentary.
It's 15 fucking hours.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hey Joey, let me ask you this, man.
How much do you know about CTE? You saw a concussion?
joey diaz
Yeah, I saw a concussion.
And after I saw the movie, I just started thinking about things.
unidentified
And they made a lot of sense to me now.
joey diaz
Things that happened over the years with people I knew who played football.
It just made sense to me.
I didn't even know about the Pittsburgh Steelers, all that stuff with the center and the other guy.
I had no idea, but it made sense to me.
It made sense to me.
One of my friends, when he was younger, he was a center.
And he was also a nose guard.
So they get hit in the head all the fucking time.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
So I'm looking at the kids now that played college ball.
joey diaz
They're not that solid.
Like the kids I grew up with that played college ball, you can see that something's not right.
I think it's a pro ball.
ball really puts it over the end because it puts the stress combined with the hits and now you're making money and you know.
joe rogan
Right.
joey diaz
I think that really pushes it over the end.
That's just too many years of getting hit in the head.
joe rogan
Right.
joey diaz
Once you become a pro and you add three or four years you know.
unidentified
I don't know much about it, Tocho Rogan.
joey diaz
I know that right now, I can see the beginnings of it in some fighters.
And if you don't see the beginning of it in some fighters, then you're not looking.
You can tell that they're looking.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it's interesting because it's like, when do you make a decision when you're a fighter?
And Brendan, you're the only one that can talk about this.
When do you make a decision?
brendan schaub
When your good friend Joe Rogan sits you down and tells you you just fucking suck.
unidentified
I didn't say you suck.
joe rogan
I never said you suck.
joey diaz
I think that the brain is like the heart.
There's really no love for Joe Rogan.
except that once you tap that button, you keep getting knocked out.
And I guarantee that those people that had more than four knockouts over the years, they'll start to experience headaches or something with their vision. - There needs to be a way to test it. - Oh, he can't hear you.
joe rogan
If people are listening to this, Joey Diaz is on speakerphone, on Eddie Bravo's phone, and he can't hear Brendan, who's on the other side of the table, because Eddie's got the speakerphone.
It's real hard to hear.
joey diaz
Keep going, Joey.
joe rogan
No, Joey, I think you're dead right.
Joey, I think you're dead right.
I think you're dead right.
We all do.
We all agree with you.
I'm just telling people that you couldn't hear Brendan.
Yeah, it's one of those things where you gotta wonder as a fighter, like, where do you draw the line?
Because you look at a guy like Alistair Overeem, he's been stopped a bunch of times, but Alistair's about to fight for the title, you know?
So when do you make that call?
Because Alistair's as good as he's ever been.
He knocked out, you know, he knocked out Junior Dos Santos in a spectacular, no, Rothwell knocked him out.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Big Ben knocked him out in the first round.
brendan schaub
Here's the question, Joe.
What other options do they have?
That's why I stopped.
I had other options.
joe rogan
Most guys don't.
Yeah, that's a good point.
brendan schaub
Because people can say, well, you've taken too many fights.
You need to stop.
And do what?
Going to the workforce?
Fuck you!
I make six figures fighting, I'm gonna get punched on shitting my pants in front of my kids.
joe rogan
But that's also, don't you think that there's an important point where you have to decide whether or not it's what you actually want to do?
And you had the option to do other shit, and it was a perfect time for you to just step back and do other shit, but some people...
brendan schaub
I also have Joe Rogan and Brian Cowan who helped me out and gave me a platform.
joe rogan
You're also entertaining.
There's a lot of dudes who, they would do podcasts, and you'd be like, shut that shit off.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they would fucking suck.
I'm just saying, I had other options.
Most guys have to fight.
eddie bravo
You still there, Joey?
brendan schaub
Joey, you're six Death Stars.
joe rogan
Hey, we're gonna wrap this podcast up, Joey.
We love you, man.
I love you, brother.
joey diaz
Thank you for thinking of me, guys.
Love you.
unidentified
We'll talk.
joe rogan
Love you, Joey.
joey diaz
I love you, guys.
joe rogan
Joey's the best.
He's a national treasure, a world treasure.
brendan schaub
He won't drive and do fire in the gate because it's too far.
joey diaz
Too far, dog.
unidentified
Come to me, bitch.
brendan schaub
It's too fucking far.
Come here.
joey diaz
Come to me.
joe rogan
I'm 51 years old.
Let me tell you something, motherfucker.
I'm 49 years old.
Let me tell you something, bitch.
unidentified
He goes, I'm not going anywhere before 11. 11?
brendan schaub
Fuck you, cocksucker.
Fuck, man.
joe rogan
He's so funny.
joey diaz
Traffic.
joe rogan
He's the best.
He always has the right shit to say about everything.
brendan schaub
He's so knowledgeable.
eddie bravo
You're not going to get him over there on the west side like Marina Del Rey or Xenas.
unidentified
Listen, dog.
eddie bravo
I'm in no danger.
He knows.
brendan schaub
And you know what?
He doesn't text.
I'll text him.
Hey, man.
Can you do 11 or call me?
He only calls.
He never texts.
unidentified
You're in no danger of me driving down to fucking Laguna Niguel.
joe rogan
You're in no danger.
What?
Four o'clock on a Tuesday?
How about you suck my dick?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Alright, man.
unidentified
You asked me to do the show.
joe rogan
He's an animal.
unidentified
He's the best.
joe rogan
Listen, dog.
We'll make it nice and simple.
Come to my house.
unidentified
Bro.
joe rogan
He's got his own studio now.
brendan schaub
I know.
unidentified
I went to his studio.
joe rogan
You need to set up a studio like he...
unidentified
I went to his studio and he was so high.
joe rogan
Oh, too high.
unidentified
We got nothing done.
joe rogan
Oh, that's perfect.
unidentified
Hey, talk to me about, hey, you know, I go on there and he goes, talk to me about Boulder.
brendan schaub
What?
You went to see you.
unidentified
I'm going to take a nap.
brendan schaub
Let me tell you about my stories about Boulder.
unidentified
It is so hot.
We got nothing done.
joe rogan
I'm going to take a nap.
unidentified
I want you to talk to me about mountains and streams and eagles and ferrets.
That's exactly what he did.
joe rogan
Come on, dog.
Dog, I'm back.
I'm back better than ever.
Spark up the bong.
brendan schaub
Tell me about your time at CU Boulder.
joe rogan
Tell me about New Mexico.
eddie bravo
What do you mean you got nothing done?
Didn't you do a podcast or something?
unidentified
We did a podcast.
He was just so high.
brendan schaub
We're talking about CU Boulder for two hours.
joe rogan
Perfect.
unidentified
Perfect.
joe rogan
Let it roll.
unidentified
He's the best.
joe rogan
He is what he is, man.
He's perfect.
unidentified
He's the best.
brendan schaub
He's fucking hilarious.
joe rogan
I talked to you about some places he's never even been.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those North Dakota people, dog.
Those dirty white people that work in the mines.
And they take off their stinky fucking shoes.
They want these Chinese women to suck their dicks.
unidentified
And they come over in fucking old World War II Snoopy airplanes.
And they drop them out of the sky and they just suck your dick and they just fucking shoot right back off of the space.
joe rogan
He'll make some shit up.
brendan schaub
He's fucking hilarious.
joe rogan
He'll be crying.
He's a totally unique individual.
When are you going to meet another Joey Diaz in your life?
brendan schaub
Never.
He calls and checks on me.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
It's beautiful, right?
brendan schaub
It's great.
joe rogan
Wonderboy, you look nasty in this fight, man.
These highlights that we're watching.
brendan schaub
How about Wonderboy's only loss was to Matt fucking Brown?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
brendan schaub
Other than that, he starched everybody.
joe rogan
Well, he just fought real smart.
brendan schaub
I wish Rashad would stop fighting.
joe rogan
I think he probably will.
Eventually, for sure.
brendan schaub
One of my favorite people on the planet.
joe rogan
Well, that Glover fight is going to be hard for a proud former champion like him to go out on.
If he decides to end it on the Glover fight.
brendan schaub
Who's Glover fight now?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
brendan schaub
We said Gus from the beginning.
joe rogan
I like Gustafsson.
I think that's a great fight.
But Gustafsson already has a fight scheduled, and there might be a reason why they scheduled the guy against him.
Do you know who it is?
They just announced it yesterday, right?
brendan schaub
It's a guy not ranked in the top ten, I know that.
joe rogan
That's a weird fight to make, right?
brendan schaub
What's his name?
Jan Blakovic.
joe rogan
Oh, Jan Blakovic is a good fighter.
He's a very good fighter.
brendan schaub
But good enough to fight Gustafsson.
He's ranked number three or four in the world.
joe rogan
See if you can find a highlight reel.
For Jan Blachowicz.
brendan schaub
No, he's a beast, obviously.
But the only thing is, Gustin's going, you know, he almost beat Jon Jones at Decision.
He almost beat DC in Decision.
Then he's fighting this guy.
I think because he said time off, it's almost a welcome back.
We know you've had mental problems.
Welcome back.
joe rogan
I don't like to say almost beat.
I like to say lost a close fight, too.
brendan schaub
That's fair.
joe rogan
Yeah, I can't say it almost.
He never did it really like he was going to beat Jon Jones.
He had some moments.
He had some good moments.
But you never have Jon Jones in trouble.
Jon Jones always came back.
Jon Jones is gritty as fuck.
Right, but he came back.
You know what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
Jon Jones won that fight.
Jon Jones won that fight.
joe rogan
Right.
But it was a good fight.
It was a very, very good fight.
brendan schaub
It was a close fight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
See, like the fight where he was in trouble.
That's like...
The Rumble-Johnson fight.
Like when he fought Rumble.
brendan schaub
When Gustafson fought Rumble?
joe rogan
That's in trouble.
That's in trouble.
brendan schaub
That's losing the fight.
joe rogan
That's losing the fight.
Right.
brendan schaub
Jon Jones has never been in trouble.
joe rogan
Yeah, never been in trouble.
brendan schaub
Gustafson gave him his toughest test.
joe rogan
It's interesting, right?
You know, that's how fucking tough Jon is.
eddie bravo
When Vitor had him in an armbar, It's true.
brendan schaub
He picked him up and slammed him and then submitted him.
joe rogan
Yep.
That might be one of the most dangerous times in his career because his arm was completely hyperextended.
brendan schaub
He snapped his arm.
joe rogan
He showed what a bad motherfucker he is.
Did he hurt him?
eddie bravo
For real?
brendan schaub
He snapped his arm.
joe rogan
Yes, he did.
brendan schaub
He hyperextended his elbow.
joe rogan
It's one of the reasons why he took that job on The Ultimate Fighter with Chael Sonnen because he wasn't going to fight for quite a long time.
So they knew that, so they scheduled that fight next, and then if you remember correctly, he has that fight, he beats the shit out of Chael Sonnen and breaks his toe in the process.
He was pushing off the mat so fucking hard trying to kill Chael Sonnen that he broke his own toe and spun it around.
You remember that shit?
brendan schaub
He's a fucking monster.
joe rogan
And he didn't even realize it until he looked down.
brendan schaub
Pound for pound number one.
joe rogan
He was standing there after the fight was over, I was talking to him, and then he looked down and realized that he had twisted his toe upside down.
brendan schaub
It's a fucking nightmare.
Good luck being that guy.
joe rogan
Bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
And if DC don't beat him, it's all where everyone's fucked.
joe rogan
Bad motherfucker.
But here's the thing.
I don't know if he's right, but Greg Jackson was saying that he thought that one of the things about John being...
I didn't think he was sluggish.
I thought he took a lot of time off, and he had a lot of pressure.
I thought he fought very creatively, and I thought he fought well.
brendan schaub
You can throw a speed?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
You're batshit crazy.
joe rogan
No, I didn't.
I don't think he fought his best.
brendan schaub
I thought he was on antibiotics.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I definitely don't think he fought his best.
But I think, considering the fact that he was off for a long time, and all the personal problems that he went through, and he fought a real tough guy in OSP that was in a fairly defensive position in a lot of the fight.
brendan schaub
He didn't risk anything.
It was more OSP than John.
joe rogan
Well, OSP fought a smart fight.
He fought a smart fight, tested the water, he did the best to his ability, took some chances, but he got out of the fight ultimately in pretty good shape, except for his arm.
brendan schaub
He didn't come to win, really.
joe rogan
Another guy whose arm got broke by a kick.
John broke his arm, probably significantly slowed him down.
Yeah.
So, I didn't think it was a bad performance at all.
I think OSP is fucking good, man, and getting better and a dangerous...
It's a tricky fight for anybody.
He's a super powerful guy.
brendan schaub
Explosive southpaw.
I just thought John looked kind of lackadaisical.
He didn't risk anything.
He had too much to lose.
joe rogan
Just a lot of factors.
A lot of factors.
Also, getting that off of his chest and then getting back in there and fighting Daniel is going to be like a warm-up fight against a top six guy.
That's what OSP was.
I'm pretty sure he was ranked number six.
That's a great thing for John.
brendan schaub
He also didn't show anything.
He really didn't show DC anything.
joe rogan
But what I was going to say is that Greg Jackson seemed to think, allegedly, after that fight, that the weightlifting might have played a part in him looking tight.
brendan schaub
That's fair.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
That's fair, because when you're in the weight room, you put on more muscle, you're slower, you're not as fluid.
Plus, he didn't fight for a while.
He was in jail.
Hey, Greg Jackson, I think it's more that he T-boned a pregnant lady, ran from the scene, spent some time in jail, didn't find lockdown forever.
It's called lockdown rust.
Then he fought a very talented Southpaw who's tricky to deal with.
That's more what it is.
It ain't the weightlifting.
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
It's interesting that you would immediately blame one aspect.
Because one of the things that was after I talked to John, or while I was talking to John after the fight, one of the things that he said was that he felt physically great.
He just wasn't...
He wasn't engaging enough or he wasn't pulling the trigger when he wanted to.
This was probably just a comfort thing.
He hadn't been fighting in a long time, all the pressure.
There's probably quite a few factors.
And maybe even, it's not either or, maybe even the weightlifting might have slowed him down a little bit.
brendan schaub
Maybe, but like you said, I think it's a number of things.
But look at Gustafson.
He's been out for a while.
They give him a pretty...
I'm not saying it's a warm-up fight, but he's not fighting a top-ten guy.
John's warm-up fight was against the number-six guy in the world, a Southpaw who's explosive as fuck.
He's supposed to fight for the world title.
So John was being a little hesitant, safe.
He knows what's on the line.
joe rogan
Is there some sort of history between Gustafson and the guys fighting?
Is there a reason why they're going to fight?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
unidentified
I think...
brendan schaub
Remember Gustafson was like, I don't know if I want to do this anymore.
So I think it's more of like...
Hey, man, let's see if this is for you.
Go through a 12-week training camp.
Let's see what happens because you're a phenomenal fighter.
joe rogan
Really?
Yeah.
That's interesting, man.
Because you as a fighter, when a fighter starts entertaining those thoughts of stopping...
brendan schaub
It's game over.
It's game over.
It really is.
And this has come from a guy who didn't think that way for a long time.
Even when you told me that, I'm like, what's he talking about?
One foot in, one foot out?
And then when finally the dust fell, I'm like, he's kind of fucking right.
Right, because then when you're fighting guys who it's all they have, good luck beating a Glover Tech share who's in fucking Connecticut in the snow running sprints and all he gives a fuck about is knocking you out.
Or Anthony Johnson, who all he cares about is knocking you out.
He doesn't care about anything else.
And when you're one foot in, one foot out, you just can't compete at that level.
You just can't.
You can be a guy and still fight, win some, lose some, but you should leave.
joe rogan
I'm glad you said that.
brendan schaub
You should leave 100%.
Because I'm telling you, there's guys out there who they live and die for this shit, and they don't care about anything else.
There's literally nothing else.
And you're going to compete with them?
Good luck, man.
joe rogan
Good luck.
brendan schaub
While you're doing a fucking radio show telling dick jokes, this guy's hitting mitts or getting better at the craft.
You just can't compete, man.
And it's his paycheck.
It's how he feeds his family.
You're going to get hurt.
joe rogan
See this Tamden McCrory knockout?
He got knocked out by this cat.
Christoph Jockto.
brendan schaub
Jockto.
Great fucking name.
joe rogan
Clean left hand.
He was pressing the action, looking to establish his range and everything.
It was like a minute in, and this dude hit him with a perfectly timed left hand, like right on the eye socket.
Just jarred him.
He went down, and then he finished him off with some sick hammer fist.
Check this out.
Watch.
He's moving forward.
And this guy had been, like, threatened with the left hand, but couldn't find his range.
Watch how he just slides back and then back in.
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
Boom!
God damn.
joe rogan
I mean, that is just thunderous.
brendan schaub
His hairline ain't helping nobody.
joe rogan
McCroy just stiffens up.
That hairline's dope as fuck if you win.
If you knock people the fuck out.
brendan schaub
No, that hairline ain't good in the movies.
joe rogan
In the UFC. If you teabag a man who's unconscious on a barroom floor.
He's way worse than Jason Statham.
Jason Statham, he's tapped out.
He's tapped out like me.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Jason Statham's a timepiece.
joe rogan
Tamden's holding on some weird shit on the side of the ear area.
eddie bravo
Hey, I'm all about Jason Statham, man.
brendan schaub
Tamden looks like Frazier.
eddie bravo
More bold and sexy celebrities there are, the better for all of us.
Trust me.
joe rogan
Says Mr. Full Headed Hair.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
You have thick hair privilege.
brendan schaub
You have super thick hair.
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
My hair's falling out.
I'm getting old.
brendan schaub
We can't listen to you.
eddie bravo
No, I'm going to shave my head, too.
I'm going to join the bald-headed...
joe rogan
Well, you know, Tamden McCrory looked really good in his last fight, man.
He won by a quick knockout in the first round.
And, you know, this is just the nature of the beast, man.
He fought a really good guy.
Meanwhile, look how fucking goddamn good Cowboy looked tonight.
brendan schaub
Dude, I text you.
The best fight I saw last weekend, I text you, was Lemachenko.
He has six fucking fights.
This is boxing.
In fact, at 130. He has six fights.
He was a gold medalist in the Olympics.
His first pro fight, he goes, I want a world championship fight.
They go, we can't give it to you on the first fight.
So he gets on a second fight, wins a world championship.
Now it's his sixth fight.
He wins another world championship.
I'm telling you, man, this is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world right now.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
Oh, my God.
You watch him?
The angles are fucking nuts.
If you like Dominic Cruz, this guy's doing it in boxing.
joe rogan
It's Lomachenko, right?
brendan schaub
Lomachenko, yeah.
joe rogan
That's how you say it, his last name.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's fucking nuts.
joe rogan
He's an artist in there, man.
unidentified
Beautiful.
brendan schaub
So fun to watch.
joe rogan
But he lost to Solis, right?
brendan schaub
He did.
They fight again, he fucking smoked him.
joe rogan
What happened in the first fight?
I didn't see it.
brendan schaub
It was a decision, and some people even gave it to Lomachenko.
joe rogan
Well, Solis is just really good at brawling, man.
unidentified
He's a brawler.
joe rogan
He's a tough, tough dude, man.
And he's one of those badass Mexican fighters.
You know, if you go look at, like, badass blood and guts fighters, if you had to look at, like, one nation that continually produces badass blood and guts fighters...
unidentified
Mexico.
Fuck.
joe rogan
Look at Canelo Alvarez.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
Julio Cesar Chavez, dude.
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
Mexico has had some bad motherfuckers.
And even Oscar De La Hoya.
They don't want to give it to him because he's good looking.
God damn it, he's Mexican.
He's a bad motherfucker.
I re-watched Oscar De La Hoya versus Julio Cesar Chavez last week.
Oh, dude.
unidentified
I forgot how good Oscar was.
brendan schaub
The Golden Boy was the best.
eddie bravo
I saw that at the LA Sports Arena on closed circuit.
It's like a basketball arena and you get to see it on the screen.
brendan schaub
You know who's better than all of them to me?
Juan Miguel Marquez.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
brendan schaub
Fuck, he was a monster.
joe rogan
Dude, I wore a Marquez shirt on the podcast the other day.
I think I did.
brendan schaub
Did you really?
joe rogan
Did I wear it, Jamie?
brendan schaub
Was it Roots of Fight?
It's Chavez.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It was a fight.
I saw him fight at the forum.
With my friend Terry Claibon.
I saw him fight Marco Antonio Barrera.
brendan schaub
Oh fuck man.
Juan Manuel Marquez was a fucking monster.
So technical could brawl.
unidentified
Michael Carvajal?
joe rogan
No.
Is that who fought?
Who the fuck fought?
eddie bravo
Chiquita Gonzalez?
joe rogan
No, that wasn't the fight.
brendan schaub
That wasn't the fight.
unidentified
Chocolacito?
joe rogan
God damn it.
brendan schaub
Too much weed.
Chocolacito will blow your fucking mind, too.
Boxing's never been better, though, right now.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Well, he had that epic...
Juan Manuel Marquez...
brendan schaub
Knocked out Manny.
eddie bravo
Marco Antonio Barrera?
joe rogan
Marco Antonio Barrera had that Prince Hamed fight.
It was Marco Antonio Barrera and he was fighting someone else.
eddie bravo
Arturo Gatti?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Damn, Doug.
joe rogan
Give me Marco Antonio Barrera's Wikipedia so I can figure out which fight it was.
eddie bravo
How long ago was this?
How long ago?
joe rogan
I just moved to New York or here from New York with my friend Terry Claiborne who's still a boxing trainer in LA. What gym?
I don't know where his gym is, man.
I think he's got a gym on La Brea somewhere.
I haven't seen him in a long time.
He's a really cool dude.
I went with him, but we went to watch it.
It was when Marco Antonio Barrera, before he even fought Prince Nassim Hamed.
Let's see what we got here.
eddie bravo
Damn, that's a lot of Mexicans.
joe rogan
It's all Mexicans.
Scroll up a little.
Scroll up a little, Jamie.
Keep going, keep going, keep going.
It was Kennedy McKinney.
That's who it was.
brendan schaub
Oh, there you go.
That's 2003, son.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was in Anaheim.
See?
brendan schaub
Yep.
Englewood.
Englewood?
joe rogan
40 and 0. Oh, was it Englewood?
Is that what it was?
Yeah, that's what it was.
Kennedy McKinney.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
February 2003. Or is that 1996?
joe rogan
Benavidez was in Anaheim.
brendan schaub
That says 1996, son.
joe rogan
Does it really?
brendan schaub
February 1996, February 3rd.
joe rogan
I got the days wrong.
brendan schaub
Goddamn.
joe rogan
But that was when I was working out at the Hollywood gym.
Is that 24-hour gym?
They used to be on...
Dude, forever.
Forever in a week.
That gym that is still there, that Hollywood gym is a 24-hour gym, still to this day.
It's on La Brea, right across the street from where our old legends used to be.
I used to work out there, and he was training John David Jackson when John David Jackson was a middleweight champion.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
Back in the day, son.
Old school, man.
And this one, Sugar Shane Mosley was just coming up, dude.
Sugar Shane Mosley, there was posters of him.
He had won the Olympics, and he was just coming up as a pro boxer.
And everybody was like, God damn, keep your eyes on Sugar Shane Mosley.
brendan schaub
He was ranked pound for pound best in the world for a long time.
joe rogan
Dude, that dude had lightning fast hands.
He put some combinations on people, man.
What was it like doing commentary on his fight?
Because you did it for...
brendan schaub
What would you do for CBS? For CBS Sports.
He's a buddy.
It's tough, man, because...
It's tough because it's obviously past his time, you know?
He fought a young line and he did well, but he probably lost the fight.
He definitely lost the fight, but where do you go from here?
And the winner of that fight fights Thurman or Porter.
joe rogan
What are you going to do with that?
brendan schaub
What are you going to do with that?
joe rogan
Here's my question.
brendan schaub
I don't know well enough that we know each other where I can say, hey brother, what are you doing?
joe rogan
How do you distinguish a guy like Shane Mosley from a guy like Bernard Hopkins?
A guy like Bernard Hopkins, if he thinks that he can fight somebody, I want to see him see if he can fight that guy.
Even though he's 49 or almost 50. I mean, that guy, the only guy that really kind of dismantled his defense was Kovalev.
Kovalev put him in some real trouble.
Real trouble.
brendan schaub
Kovalev, to me, might be the best in the world, pound for pound.
joe rogan
He's one of them.
He's definitely top three.
Gennady Golovkin and him apparently had some wars, some boxing wars, that's what the rumors are.
They're both nasty.
Nasty.
Fucking knockout artists.
brendan schaub
Russians own combat sports, really.
Think about it.
joe rogan
Not really.
Name one UFC Russian champion.
brendan schaub
Ready, go.
Negamadov.
joe rogan
Did I get him, son?
Tell me what just happened.
unidentified
No, all I'm saying is Khabib Negomedov.
eddie bravo
Don't jump to conclusions.
He might have some good shit.
joe rogan
Oh, well, Negomedov's a monster.
brendan schaub
Khabib's undefeated, just injuries stopped him.
He already beat the champ, Dos Anjos.
eddie bravo
Okay, one.
brendan schaub
He's at 55, and that's the deepest division.
joe rogan
He's the outlier.
Well, fuck, he's an outlier.
brendan schaub
But boxing, they fucking...
joe rogan
There's a lot of them, but Tyson Fury just beat Vladimir Klitschko.
brendan schaub
They're fighting again.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Tyson Fury just beat Vladimir Klitschko.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
Kovalev.
Good luck beating Kovalev.
Good luck beating him.
joe rogan
But Andre Ward might be able to beat him.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
joe rogan
I never know.
brendan schaub
He better fight more than...
joe rogan
Everybody's so confident.
eddie bravo
Brendan, I'm so confused.
brendan schaub
It's just an argument.
eddie bravo
Brendan, in boxing right now, is there an African-American heavyweight boxer that's fucking vicious?
brendan schaub
Deontay Wilder.
Oh, Anthony Joshua from England's a fucking monster.
eddie bravo
Look at this pole.
brendan schaub
Anthony Joshua.
He looks like he'd win the Olympia right now.
joe rogan
Look at this pole.
About who they want Wonderboy to fight.
63% of the people said Wonderboy.
9% said Damian Maia.
They're like, pass.
eddie bravo
Ah, we're good.
brendan schaub
Jiu-jitsu, fuck you.
joe rogan
Fuck all of that noise.
brendan schaub
Just because people want to see knockouts.
joe rogan
Fuck that gigantic killer praying mantis world champion jiu-jitsu strangler.
Fuck that.
Damien Maia puts the choke to people, my friend.
brendan schaub
I love watching Damien Maia right now.
joe rogan
See, this fight was interesting, man.
I was watching this.
Chris Biel was tagging Joe Soto, but Joe Soto was moving with shit.
He was constantly pressuring him, and he got him to the ground and took his back twice.
eddie bravo
Damn, I didn't see this.
He's fighting the next EBI. He fought great.
unidentified
Joe Soto's in the next EBI. He's a David Terrell guy, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a brown belt under David Terrell.
eddie bravo
He got to the finals against Eddie Cummings in EBI 4 the last time we hit the feather lines.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know what, man?
He yelled something at me, and I wanted to talk to you about this, because he yelled something to me after he won his last fight.
eddie bravo
Yeah, there's a big misunderstanding.
That's over.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was like, I didn't grease up.
I didn't grease up.
I go, dude, I don't know what...
He yelled that at you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, as if I knew it because of him telling Eddie I didn't grease up.
eddie bravo
No, no, it was about...
joe rogan
Misunderstanding?
brendan schaub
Well, if you're yelling, man, super suspect.
joe rogan
Well, he was just trying to clarify to me because he knew that they were on commercial.
But it was, um, whatever.
That didn't matter.
What he did tonight was beautiful.
Beautiful grappling, man.
brendan schaub
Great takedown.
joe rogan
He took his back twice in a real strong way.
Took his back in the second and in the third.
And I was like, man, he can threaten.
Because once he got to the ground, he was taking his back, like, really quick.
brendan schaub
Super, like with the quickness.
Like knife through butter.
joe rogan
Yeah, it wasn't like he was in danger of getting reversed.
It was more of like how quickly would he be able to progress to the back?
brendan schaub
It was just a matter of time before he got his neck.
joe rogan
He's a very good grappler, man.
Very good grappler.
brendan schaub
Amazing.
I wasn't aware how good he was, to be honest.
joe rogan
Well, those David Terrell guys are fucking animals.
brendan schaub
Dude, everyone I know...
It says David Terrell in the training room is the biggest fucking freak of all time.
All the legendary stories I hear, everyone tells me David Terrell is a motherfucker.
I hear legendary stories from everyone.
joe rogan
We saw him grapple in his prime in Abu Dhabi in 2003, back when Eddie went down there.
I saw him in his prime against some really high-level guys.
brendan schaub
I heard even then he never lived up to his potential.
I've never grappled with the guy.
I don't know him.
I think I've met him once passing through UFC. He's like a centaur.
These stories I hear from other people and legit people are nuts.
eddie bravo
One thing that was clear with Joe Soto in EBI 4 was his leg locks were really good and his leg lock defense was insane.
Yeah, and it was because of Dave Terrell.
brendan schaub
All day.
eddie bravo
He's been all about leg locks for the last 10, 15 years.
And he got to the finals against Eddie Cummings, who just leg locked three dudes in a row.
unidentified
Yeah, Eddie's a beast.
eddie bravo
And you would think, nobody ever sits on their ass and plays footsies with Eddie Cummings.
They generally don't do that.
Yeah, that's like, okay, let's try to get around those legs and try to play smash.
That's what everyone's trying to do.
They don't want to go leg for legs with Eddie Cummings.
But Joe Soto did in the fucking finals.
brendan schaub
Is Gary Tony in your next one or no?
eddie bravo
No, no.
But Eddie Cummings, he's the champion.
He's coming back to defend the belt.
That's a Saturday, July 16th on Fight Pass.
brendan schaub
Boom.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, you're on Fight Pass now.
EBI on fucking Fight Pass.
unidentified
Yeah, it's fucking awesome, Eddie.
joe rogan
It's so good, dude.
brendan schaub
It's going well.
joe rogan
It's so good.
eddie bravo
Oh, fuck yeah.
joe rogan
It's the best grappling format that's ever been created.
brendan schaub
By far.
Nice and close.
joe rogan
Such a smart move, man.
eddie bravo
You guys had fun when you guys went?
brendan schaub
The fucking best.
joe rogan
Always.
eddie bravo
Get the fights moving, we don't fucking wait.
It was the best.
I don't watch Fight Pass.
brendan schaub
That's the best.
eddie bravo
That's the one thing about fight shows is that one thing the King of the Cage had that no one else had is they would have 13 fights, but there would be no waiting.
As soon as one fight was done, boom, they start the next fight.
brendan schaub
For MMA, that's a bad idea, but I hear you for Jiu-Jitsu.
eddie bravo
Well, for anything it's great because it just moves the show along.
And, you know, we were all behind schedule because we had to do everything in a three-hour block because of pay-per-view.
And we were behind, so we weren't even showing replays.
People thought that that was our style.
We don't show replays.
Like, we didn't even have time for replays.
We were just going, go, go, go.
unidentified
Is that little girl still...
brendan schaub
Ripping heels off.
eddie bravo
Which one are you talking about?
Grace?
brendan schaub
You know who I'm talking about.
The only one ripping heels off.
eddie bravo
Oh, Riley.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
She's going to fight in September.
brendan schaub
You bet your ass she is.
eddie bravo
We got to find an opponent for her.
We don't have an opponent for her, but Grace is fighting an EBI 7 as well.
joe rogan
Well, I'm super curious to see how this is received because as a person who loves jujitsu, And I think we could all agree on this.
One of the big problems, you've been involved in these kind of matches.
They go to draw.
And it's like a lot of them go to draw.
And you'll have professional matches four, five, six in a row, and nothing happens.
brendan schaub
Super boring.
Nothing happens.
eddie bravo
Not all draws are boring, though.
Some draws are amazing.
They're like Shields against AJ Agazon.
brendan schaub
100%.
eddie bravo
Gary Tonin versus Husamar Pahara.
brendan schaub
I agree, brother.
eddie bravo
Great draws.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
You're right.
For the public, they're not trying to see that.
unidentified
Right.
eddie bravo
No, but they still enjoy the match.
brendan schaub
They need finishes.
eddie bravo
Yeah, but they still enjoy the matchup.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, if you want ratings, you need finishes.
Bar none.
That's what you need.
joe rogan
Well, sort of, but.
Sort of, but.
I see your point, too.
Because there's something interesting about a fight that gets that close to being finished several times, but a guy escapes, and you don't know exactly what's going to happen, and there's a lot of drama, and then it gets to the end, and there's still drama.
But it would be infinitely better if then they moved into your format.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
That draw was pretty good because it was a technical jiu-jitsu battle, but your format makes that draw one of the best fights in the history of the world.
That's what I'm saying, because they're both in danger.
If all of a sudden AJ's got Jake Shields' back and he starts with the over-under, or Jake's got his back and he starts with the over-under.
unidentified
That's crazy.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying, Eddie.
Your format proves that we want to see people try and finish.
Because if you go to the Metamore style, it proves that that thing's not working.
joe rogan
Your style is.
eddie bravo
That could work, the Metamore style, if...
There was more incentive to win instead of a draw.
There's not an incentive.
People were like, you know what?
brendan schaub
The problem with the draws is when it's clear that one of the fighters or both of the fighters are totally satisfied with the draw, they're like, fuck it.
eddie bravo
You know what I mean?
Then it's a problem.
But if two guys are really going after it, then it's not a problem.
So how do you make guys two really go after it?
You've got to make it a financial...
brendan schaub
EBI! There you go.
What are we talking about?
unidentified
I'm arguing your fucking joke!
brendan schaub
I'm saying you have to do EBI rules, otherwise you fuck.
eddie bravo
I'm saying it's all good.
Everything's good.
joe rogan
A beautiful Porsche just wiped out.
It was so depressing.
Did you see that?
It just got destroyed.
Some crazy race.
brendan schaub
4GT versus Friday.
joe rogan
I don't know what the race is, but some Porsche just got destroyed.
brendan schaub
Porsche 919 hybrid?
What?
Get the hybrid out of my fucking face.
eddie bravo
You guys are all car experts, aren't you?
joe rogan
These people are nuts.
eddie bravo
Who knows more about cars running for Joe all day?
brendan schaub
Joe crushing?
Yeah, for sure.
eddie bravo
You're like a blue belt and he's like a black belt, right?
Joe's been looking at car magazines for the last 20 years.
brendan schaub
He's a solid black belt.
eddie bravo
He's been a car expert since I've known him.
brendan schaub
He's balls deep in fixing his cars.
joe rogan
I'm a fascinated person.
I'm easily fascinated by engineering.
brendan schaub
But if you're into something, you know the ins and outs of it.
Like archery shooting, you're going to spend 20 hours on it.
I'll spend an hour on it, then I'll move on to something else, then I'll come back the next day another hour.
joe rogan
Not everything, though, man.
If you're into it, though, you're so into it.
It has to ring.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you're so into it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a mental problem.
There's something wrong with me.
eddie bravo
You had that NSX. Oh, Jesus Christ!
brendan schaub
It's a Corvette.
Thank God it's a Corvette, though.
joe rogan
That Corvette just wiped out.
Oh, but that's a beautiful car, too.
Jesus fucking Goosh!
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Hey, man.
eddie bravo
Remember to sketch the Asian NASCAR driver sex?
joe rogan
First Asian NASCAR driver.
brendan schaub
So racist.
joe rogan
Today, I would protest against media of them.
unidentified
Look at this!
Look at this!
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus!
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
You got one job.
You're driving a circle.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
No, those things break, dude.
Shit goes wrong.
brendan schaub
How about that steering wheel?
Look at that fucking car.
Oh, that ain't a Corvette?
joe rogan
No, that's a different one.
I guess they have a bunch of fucking accidents.
brendan schaub
That one's on fire.
joe rogan
Yo, that's no big deal.
brendan schaub
What is that?
joe rogan
That's like a Batmobile.
eddie bravo
Do you have to run at this point?
joe rogan
Yeah, you should definitely run.
brendan schaub
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
Damn, this car racing just got...
joe rogan
Don't you watch any movies?
eddie bravo
What happens at that point?
joe rogan
You gotta get the fuck out of Dodge before you become a part of the problem.
brendan schaub
I want them to look like actual cars.
That RA in the front is dope.
joe rogan
I think racing is fucking probably so unbelievably exciting, but the consequences are absolutely devastating.
brendan schaub
Oh, you die.
eddie bravo
How crazy do you have to be to race a car like that?
Are they all crazy?
joe rogan
No, they develop a real good sense of how to control the car.
And then at a high level, you're around a lot of other people with a really good sense of how to control a car.
And then you got to mind each other.
And that was like one of the things about that fucking dude, Ayrton Senna.
Have you ever seen that documentary on Ayrton Senna?
He's a Brazilian guy who is a Formula 1 racer who is extremely aggressive.
I think it's Formula 1. He's a race car driver.
I don't know much about this stuff.
I believe that he was Formula 1. But they had a documentary on him.
It was fucking genius, man.
It's brilliant.
He was just this dude who just felt where the car was going at a level, like an understanding that very few people ever get to and he would push it to that fucking limit.
He like had this feeling for what a car could and couldn't do and he, better than almost anybody of his era, could get the car to that limit and everybody was scared of him.
brendan schaub
That's pretty cool.
joe rogan
Super dangerous.
brendan schaub
Damn, they got a Porsche 911 GRS. You need to step your game up, Joe.
unidentified
Fuck your GT3. See, I don't want to do this.
Yeah, you do.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you do.
joe rogan
I don't.
Yeah, you do.
I definitely don't.
brendan schaub
Your GT3's a damn one step below this.
joe rogan
It is.
But I like to go through a canyon at a slightly unreasonable rate of speed.
That's it.
Just slightly.
Hey, slow down.
brendan schaub
That's all I like.
Let's take it easy.
joe rogan
I like to hear a rumble.
I like to downshift.
I like to feel a car pulling into a corner.
I don't need to break the law that deep.
These motherfuckers are crazy.
unidentified
Dude, I love me a Ford GT. How often do guys die in racing?
joe rogan
Oh, they die all the time, man.
brendan schaub
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't think that often.
brendan schaub
Two a year?
unidentified
Not so much anymore.
brendan schaub
Not so much anymore.
joe rogan
Well, how often?
jamie vernon
They had a bunch of regulations put in place after, like, Dale Earnhardt died for infants.
eddie bravo
What was the main thing that was killing them?
brendan schaub
There's F1. You're talking about NASCAR over F1. What?
eddie bravo
But seriously, sports.
joe rogan
Stop and think about this.
What kind of sport, other than race car driving, does, like, one of the number one guys die on the job and everybody's like, well, back to work.
jamie vernon
But they can get really bad wrecks now and they'll walk away from it.
joe rogan
Is it because of the new technology?
jamie vernon
They're barely moving in those little cockpits.
Their heads are stuck to the...
joe rogan
That's actually really good news, man.
I wish I knew that.
I do know that.
Thank you, Jamie.
Thank you.
Well, that's awesome that they figured that out.
That definitely is a comfort.
But it's still a dangerous sport.
A dangerous endeavor.
And these guys are athletes, for sure, right?
I would agree.
It takes a lot of fucking...
You gotta be tuned in.
It's exhausting.
brendan schaub
I don't know if I say they're athletes.
joe rogan
Man, it's physical activity.
brendan schaub
Do you think golf's athletes?
joe rogan
It's arguable.
It's not an athlete to the same extent as an MMA fighter or a basketball player or someone who relies on endurance as well as explosive ability.
Skeptical hippo.
unidentified
Skeptical hippo, babe.
brendan schaub
This is my thing, Joe.
joe rogan
This is a physical thing.
brendan schaub
How is this any different if I play a race car game on my couch?
In a sauna for eight hours.
joe rogan
You can't die, you fuck.
brendan schaub
Okay, so...
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
What kind of question is that?
This is real shit.
If you play a game on your sauna...
brendan schaub
They barely ever die, though.
They barely ever die.
joe rogan
Oh, come on, man.
It's still the thrill of this.
brendan schaub
It's rare they die.
joe rogan
The terror of getting in an accident, even if you don't think you're going to die.
brendan schaub
So he's jumping through a plane of sport?
He's jumping through a plane of sport?
joe rogan
Jumping through a plane.
brendan schaub
Jumping off a plane, sorry.
Oh.
Is hang gliding a sport?
joe rogan
Are there competitions about hang gliding?
brendan schaub
You bet your sweet ass there are.
joe rogan
It's a physical activity.
See, I think the problem is the definition.
The definition is, you know, trying to put this in.
We know what this is.
This is car racing.
brendan schaub
It's a competition, though.
joe rogan
But why does it have to be a sport or a game or an endeavor?
This is fucking car racing.
This is what it is.
Like, there's no need to categorize it and decide whether or not it's a sport.
brendan schaub
Hey, man, you're the one that said it was a sport.
joe rogan
But enjoy it for whatever the fuck it is.
brendan schaub
Hey, man.
joe rogan
They call it a sport.
brendan schaub
I enjoy the racing.
joe rogan
It's on Fox Sports 1, bro.
I mean, it's not on fucking CNN. Money's involved.
Money.
Sport.
Professional.
unidentified
Yeah, you gotta call it a sport.
joe rogan
You gotta put it on TV. Professional.
Poker a sport?
Competition.
Yeah, it's on ESPN. Is poker a sport?
unidentified
Nah, but I'm just saying.
joe rogan
I'm not gonna argue that.
Poker on Fox Sports 1?
brendan schaub
Poker's on ESPN. It's a mental sport.
joe rogan
Is it really?
Yes.
Okay, that gets weird, right?
I know, right?
That gets weird.
brendan schaub
And they do it for hours.
It takes a lot of focus.
eddie bravo
Dark Frisbee's on ESPN, too.
joe rogan
Okay, well, then is chess a sport?
Because chess is more complicated.
What about Go?
It's more complicated than chess.
brendan schaub
It's very tough.
jamie vernon
That chess boxing, did you ever see that?
joe rogan
Oh, that's retarded.
brendan schaub
That's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Don't do that anymore, guys.
brendan schaub
That's tough.
Hey, let's stop doing that.
unidentified
Hey, let's hit him in the head and then make him do complex math.
joe rogan
Stop.
Don't do that anymore.
That's a gimmick, man.
brendan schaub
Sport's tough.
joe rogan
These fucking cars are so goddamn capable today.
It's amazing.
When you look at cars just a few decades ago, like, car engineering is at an amazing level right now.
Some sort of really strange place.
eddie bravo
It seems like it's kind of at a standstill.
brendan schaub
What point does this go away?
At what point does this go away when you have fucking Teslas driving themselves and then you have Ferrari with a thousand horsemen driving themselves?
joe rogan
Eddie Brown, are you baiting me here, Eddie Brown?
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you doing, man?
Stand still.
Stand still?
brendan schaub
How dare you?
eddie bravo
They're still on wheels.
The wheels are rubber.
The frames are aluminum.
They got two headlights.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
eddie bravo
They got a steering wheel.
joe rogan
Well, can we restart it?
unidentified
I have to stop it and restart it.
joe rogan
Okay, we're going to restart it.
We're going to keep going.
I don't want to stop.
brendan schaub
Let's keep going.
joe rogan
All right, we're going to take a leak, folks.
We run out of...
Our files can only be, like, so long.
So I don't know what's going on with that.
This is, like, some shit they're going to laugh about one day.
unidentified
It only takes a second.
I just got to...
It only takes a minute, girl!
joe rogan
To fall in love.
We'll be right back.
eddie bravo
You really going to take a break?
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck it.
Dude, we're rolling.
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