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April 13, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #785 - Dom Irrera
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dom irrera
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joe rogan
Doo-doo!
unidentified
Ha-ha-ha!
dom irrera
Joseph McGee.
Joseph Rogan.
joe rogan
How are you, brother?
dom irrera
Good, man.
How are you doing?
joe rogan
Great to see you, as always.
dom irrera
Sorry, my pool game wasn't up to snuff.
joe rogan
Mine wasn't either.
We both sucked.
I smoked a cigar before this podcast, during the last one, and I'm all jittery now.
dom irrera
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, definitely.
Everything's firing.
dom irrera
Well, that nicotine, did you inhale it?
joe rogan
No, but just having it in your mouth and smoking it and sucking on it, you get a You get a nicotine high.
dom irrera
I feel like I'm left out of a certain club, those guys who think it's really cool to relax with cigar smoke and all.
It makes me nauseous.
joe rogan
Yeah, it doesn't make me relax.
It's fun.
I like to do it.
But it's a high.
They're lying to themselves.
That's a high.
It's a nicotine high.
dom irrera
Of course.
Letterman and those guys were into that.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're doing drugs.
dom irrera
Drugs?
That's crazy.
That's illegal, isn't it?
joe rogan
It's a goddamn drug den.
You know what's hilarious?
dom irrera
They're hepped up on something, Joe, I tell you.
joe rogan
But it's one of those things.
It's so common and it's so a part of the culture that we look at that as being less ridiculous and more reserved and intelligent than if someone got together in a little shack there, like a smoke shop, and it was smoking pot together.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Those people, I guess...
dom irrera
Well, I get more of a buzz from coffee than I do from Xanax.
joe rogan
You do?
dom irrera
Oh, fuck yeah, because Xanax just makes me feel like what I think a normal person feels like, you know, without the terrifying anxiety.
joe rogan
Have you always had that?
We talked about this before, but, like, when did you start getting anxiety?
dom irrera
Uh, second grade.
joe rogan
Really?
Wow.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
Second grade.
dom irrera
But I'm really doing better.
My doctor says in ten years I should be out of it.
unidentified
Ah, there's a single one.
dom irrera
You never had anxiety?
joe rogan
I've definitely had anxiety, yeah.
dom irrera
But about a specific thing, the worst thing is just anxiety that you don't even know what it's from.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
dom irrera
It's from the core of your being.
joe rogan
So it's some sort of a firing error or something in your brain.
dom irrera
Yeah, it's definitely a chemical thing.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
And does anything else help it?
Does exercise help it?
dom irrera
Alcohol.
joe rogan
Alcohol helps it?
dom irrera
But the thing about alcohol is the rebound is worse than the high.
unidentified
Wow.
dom irrera
If you have three hours of a buzz for alcohol, you'll have a 12-hour hangover.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially as you get older.
Yeah, the hangovers get rougher and rougher for me pretty much every year.
dom irrera
Well, I never drank when I was young, so this is all new to me the last few years.
joe rogan
Like, how many years?
unidentified
Eight.
joe rogan
And I know you stopped for a while.
We talked about it.
You stopped for a while.
dom irrera
It felt so good.
I couldn't believe how good it feels not to have a hangover.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
Holy shit, this is it.
joe rogan
But you like it.
dom irrera
Well, I like the whole...
You know how you were talking about the ambiance of the cigar and the puffing and laughing and raising it up like you made a big point?
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
I like that with alcohol, that whole social thing.
joe rogan
I like to have a drink with you, too, because it's like we're announcing festivities.
dom irrera
Yeah.
That moment in time.
joe rogan
Fun festivities.
dom irrera
Cheers!
joe rogan
Cheers, my friend.
And we both sort of agree that we're off on a...
Alcohol-filled fun rump of chit-chat and laughter.
dom irrera
But no DUIs.
joe rogan
Yeah, no DUIs.
That's where Uber came in.
Uber changed the game.
dom irrera
Joe, I can't take it with the fucking Uber anymore.
You can't?
Everybody's trying to convince me like there's something wrong with me.
You've got to take Uber.
I go, I don't want to take Uber.
I don't want to get in a car with a strange guy.
I don't want to get in his own car.
I want to either get a car service or take a cab.
joe rogan
He's just an old-school guy.
dom irrera
I just don't want to...
I mean, it's like...
And the thing that's funny about Uber, to me, is the idea, like, you know, I used to drink maybe one, two drinks a night, but now...
See, I drink all day, because I can take Uber.
I'm a raging alcoholic now.
joe rogan
What's funny about Uber is they...
It's like the application, connecting people to people that want something.
And those people get all the money, I think, and then they pay the drivers, right?
Isn't that how it works?
dom irrera
I don't understand it.
When I moved to New York, they had medallions.
They had to spend thousands of dollars to get the medallion to be able to drive a commercial vehicle.
Here, anybody can drive an Uber.
joe rogan
That's why it's really crazy because they are independent contractors like in New York used to be illegal They used to have these things called gypsy cabs, but they still do.
Do you remember that one year?
There was a I want to say more than 40 gypsy cab drivers were murdered.
dom irrera
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, but find this out Gypsy cab driver murders in New York.
I think they would take them and To like bad neighborhoods and shoot them and rob them so these cab drivers who are fucked you know they weren't making much money they had to take every fare they could and They would take these guys or one guy.
I mean who knows how many people actually wound up being the people killing them does it say?
1990 this story is from that sounds about right that's when I was living there and Gypsy Cappijaro was found shot dead in the Bronx.
That's only one.
Okay, killings are related.
jamie vernon
So the sixth finding of it.
joe rogan
The sixth one back then?
I want to say it was some insane number, man.
I really think it was more than 20. I want to say it's 40 for some reason.
dom irrera
Cappies didn't get a fair shake.
All those hookers that got killed got a lot of press.
joe rogan
Well, they got press in New York, but this was press in 1990 or 91 or whenever it was where it got real bad.
dom irrera
Before the internet.
Exactly.
Can you imagine there was a time before the internet now?
joe rogan
Exactly.
I mean, yeah.
Well, we became friends before the internet.
How about that?
How could we even get a hold of each other?
dom irrera
We call each other on the phone.
joe rogan
And how to catch you when you're at home.
dom irrera
Like normally, that's right.
joe rogan
You have to get up early, make phone calls before you leave the house.
dom irrera
You remember the first cell phones?
They looked like you could use it as a billy club.
joe rogan
Here it is right here.
Driving in gypsy cabs was one of the most dangerous jobs in New York City.
Since 1990, 180 drivers, an average of over two a month, have been killed while on duty.
Holy shit.
So, it wasn't 400, it was 180. I mean, maybe it was...
Not a 440, but maybe that was 180 when they stopped counting during the time this article was written, because they're talking about 1990. I was living in New York when this was happening, and I kind of moved there around then, so it could have gotten even worse.
dom irrera
Do you ever miss it?
joe rogan
No.
dom irrera
Me neither.
Do you get the guys from New York acting like they can't understand how you could like it here?
joe rogan
It's awesome.
Don't get me wrong.
I think I could adapt.
I think if I decided to live in New York tomorrow, I'd love it.
I don't think it's bad, but I don't miss it.
dom irrera
Your kids and the whole thing.
joe rogan
It's hard, but you know what, man?
I mean, kids can grow up anywhere.
They really can.
I just don't know if it's ideal.
dom irrera
Wouldn't you rather than being walking around where you live than walking around?
joe rogan
Honestly, I think really it's better probably in a non-showbiz-related city.
I think just being in this city is probably not healthy for kids.
I think kids are better off in places like Seattle, which is, even if it's showbiz related, it's not television and film related.
Like, I feel like the television and film world is filled with so many people out here.
And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a bad business.
I was in it for a long time.
I don't have anything against it.
But I just think that the kind of people that it attracts, not all of them, but a good amount of them, are really crazy.
And they're real needy and they value a certain type of fame.
And it gets really crazy.
It gets really crazy.
dom irrera
We were talking about, last night, about the girls at the Comedy Store, and Sophie, or Sophie, I forget, she said to me, she didn't want to tell me she was an actress.
She was embarrassed to say, isn't that funny?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's funny.
dom irrera
Because, well, you know, it's like I was doing a thing on stage the other night about, we need more actors than actors.
Please, if you know anybody back east that wants to be an actor, tell them to come out here.
But it's sad when you're embarrassed to say what you want to be.
joe rogan
There's nothing wrong with doing it.
See, that's the problem.
Acting itself, there's nothing wrong with it.
It's not what I'm saying.
There's something wrong with the profession.
It's just, there's a giant number of people who come out here that are just absolutely batshit crazy.
dom irrera
I know.
joe rogan
And they want, they just want everybody to like.
That's the other thing, too.
There's like this lack of a...
It's very difficult when people are judging you.
It's like there's a problem with the entire design of the audition process.
Because you're creating people that are going to be exactly what you want them to be because those are the people that you're going to hire.
So it becomes an incredibly left-wing environment.
Which is great in a lot of ways.
It balances things out.
But our culture is driven primarily from things from the left.
Good things like compassionate stuff like gay rights and gay marriage and a lot of other left-wing type ideas that I agree with and I think are great.
But it's 100% driven by that.
So these people, if they have differing opinions, it's very difficult for them to express it and still work.
So you get a lot of people that are terrified of stepping on anybody's toes.
So they say a bunch of nonsense.
You ever talk to people that don't say nice to meet you because they're worried they might have already met you?
dom irrera
Right.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
So you know what they say?
They say, nice to see you.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dom irrera
You know what I never do to people?
I never ask them what's up or what's going on.
I know that about here because people feel guilty like they have to recite what's going on in their lives, this whole resume.
And I'd rather them just say, hey man, it's good to see you.
And that's the end of the thing.
It's like, I don't want to put...
I got a lot of irons in the...
You know Sal from the Impractice Jokers?
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
He was out here one night and he goes...
This is before they really hit.
He goes, yeah, I got nothing going on.
I said, never say that in Hollywood.
I'm fucking with it.
Here's what you say.
I got a lot of irons in the fire.
I don't want to jinx it.
I'll tell you about it when it comes through.
joe rogan
Big plans in the works.
Check my Instagram page for future notifications.
dom irrera
When you said you're really not part of the business anymore, isn't it funny that you're so busy you don't have time to do a movie?
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
It's kind of cool.
joe rogan
The only movies I've ever done is the Kevin James movies because I didn't have to audition.
dom irrera
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
It just got me parts.
dom irrera
You shouldn't have to audition now.
joe rogan
Yeah, you should.
If you want something good.
But the process itself is the problem with it.
Not necessarily for me, who's financially independent, but the process for a lot of people who aren't.
Who are desperately needing something to employ them so they can apply their craft.
See, I don't need anybody to employ me so that I could do stand-up.
Neither do you.
We just do it.
And we don't need anybody to employ us to do this podcast.
We just do it.
You just do yours.
I just do mine.
We all just do our own shit.
And because of that, you could be you.
You could actually be you.
dom irrera
Oh, the suits have lost so much power in the last 10 years.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, we're also starting to see, like, what is this world really about?
It's about generating income.
That's it.
It's not about art.
That's why reality shows took off like crazy.
dom irrera
Well, your generation is much better than mine as far as business people.
You guys, your group is smart.
joe rogan
How so?
dom irrera
Well, you learn how to use the social media to your advantage.
joe rogan
You know, Tom, a lot of it was luck.
A lot of it was luck.
Some of it was copying Dane Cook.
Some of it was definitely that.
I was already doing stuff online, but I wasn't doing stuff.
I was writing blogs, and I was doing certain things just as a little exercise, just to come up with ideas and just to get my writing flowing.
So I write a lot of blogs back then.
And Dane Cook got into MySpace...
And he started using it to promote shows, and it was crazy how much it blew him up.
He was an early adopter.
dom irrera
Amazing, yeah.
joe rogan
And he was the perfect guy for it.
Cute, high energy, girls loved him.
And he was one of the first comics that had a bunch of girl fans.
dom irrera
Right, like a rock and roll guy.
joe rogan
Very, very interesting times.
But I think it woke up everybody to the power of social media.
And then Twitter came along, of course.
But the podcast thing was totally lucky, man.
If it wasn't for just...
dom irrera
Yeah, but you had to be good at it, Joe.
Don't undersell it too much.
joe rogan
I wasn't good at it in the beginning.
If you go back and listen to some of those early ones, they're fucking terrible.
dom irrera
Well, remember we were talking at the improv a couple weeks ago, and I said to you, and I didn't want you to think I was hitting, hitting, going to get on the show, but I said to you, if you do one of your shows, it's better than doing all the late night shows in one week.
joe rogan
Oh, as far as the amount of exposure.
dom irrera
I'm going to Australia tomorrow, and those people are going to be thrilled that I'm on the podcast.
Because I was in New Zealand, and people listened to you there.
It's incredible.
Nobody watches Tonight's show in Australia.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
They should.
It's a good show.
Yeah, podcasts are nuts, man.
You can get them easy.
That's the thing about it.
If you have to watch The Tonight Show to catch you, the odds of you actually being in front of your television when that happens are small.
The odds of you DVRing The Tonight Show are also small.
You know, it's usually one of those things where a lot of people look forward to it and they watch it before they go to bed.
It's a normal ritual.
dom irrera
I only use that as an example.
joe rogan
No, but it's a good one.
It's a good example because that's what we always needed, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, Carson was the thing.
Back when you were coming up, if you got on Carson, holy shit, you fucking made it.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Like, you would see a guy like Richard Jenny who had like 18 Carsons or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Brilliant writer.
Brilliant.
And just such a great comic.
And you'd see those credits and you'd go, Jesus Christ, that guy did Carson 18 times?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you would go see him and...
Of course, at the time, when I first saw Jenny, he was in the 80s.
He was a master.
unidentified
Yeah, he was.
joe rogan
Just a master.
I remember just being in awe.
And there was a bunch of other comedians that were at the Eastside Comedy Club.
Remember Eastside in Long Island?
unidentified
Of course, yeah.
dom irrera
Richie Medivini.
joe rogan
Yep, Richie Medivini, me, and Kevin James were sitting around after the show, and we're shaking our head.
We're like, God damn, he's good.
God damn it.
He apparently did two different hours.
On Friday night, he did two shows in 8 to 10. He did two completely different hours.
Completely.
Top to bottom.
And they were like, both of them were slaughtering.
He was just a destroyer.
dom irrera
Brilliant writer.
joe rogan
I remember feeling like he could take premises that you didn't think there was anything there, and you could turn them into one of your favorite bits.
Like he did a premise about buying a Corvette.
And the guy trying to talk him into all sorts of stuff in the Corvette.
And I remember thinking while he was doing this, wow, how is this guy going to make this funny?
He was talking about buying an expensive sports car, and he's going to figure out how to make this funny?
dom irrera
Remember the ref thing he did?
joe rogan
I had a bunch of great ones.
dom irrera
Well, you know, we had problems, him and I. And it really was because of him.
I'm not saying that kind of...
Because he's dead.
Yeah, because he's dead.
No, but what happened was we were, like, getting different things at the same time.
joe rogan
Like, you were competitive with each other?
dom irrera
Well, he was competitive with me, and I think it's because people pitted us against each other purely because we were short Italians.
joe rogan
Well, I'm a short Italian as well.
You've never been anything but supportive and nice to me.
dom irrera
Thank you, Joseph.
But I mean, you know, one time I said to him, because somebody was talking, I said, why don't we go out on the road together?
We'll fill up theaters.
And he goes, why would I want to do that?
I said, I don't know, to make money, to have fun?
You know, he didn't understand the concept.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
He said to me one time, he goes, Montreal Comedy Festival, you think I should go there?
I said, go with the idea that you're going to meet beautiful girls, go to great restaurants, and then if you happen to get a deal, you do.
But have fun.
And he goes, fun?
He looked at me like, what do you mean fun?
This isn't fun.
This is...
He was tortured.
joe rogan
Wow.
dom irrera
He never enjoyed it.
That's the saddest part of it.
He never knew how good he was or he never enjoyed how good he was.
joe rogan
I first met him in Montreal.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
I first met him in like...
dom irrera
Isn't that where I met you?
joe rogan
Yep.
Yep.
I met him in...
94, we were both passing each other in the front doors.
Just said hi.
Hey man, nice to meet you.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
What shows you doing?
That kind of thing.
Just, you know.
And he seemed to me like he just was a brilliant mind.
dom irrera
Like a brilliant comic.
joe rogan
But just always, you know, in his own head.
Maybe almost too much.
dom irrera
I saw him on a plane.
I was flying back.
Remember they had three cabins on American?
And I was in first class.
And he was in coach with Lenny.
joe rogan
Lenny Clark?
dom irrera
No, not Lenny Clark.
Lenny, I forget his name.
joe rogan
Lenny Schultz?
Crazy Lenny?
dom irrera
Crazy Lenny.
No, not that crazy Lenny.
Not the one with more pigs, more shit Lenny.
There's so many fucking Lenny's in comedy.
What other Lenny?
Dave Hawthorne's friend.
You would know them.
joe rogan
Okay.
dom irrera
But anyway, I walked back to say hi, and he goes, you know, I usually fly first myself, but I'm flying him.
I said, Rich, it's okay.
I said, you know, and then I went, it's all right.
I didn't fly.
ABC flew me.
And he didn't like that either.
I'm thinking, I didn't do that to rub it in.
And then I finally said to him, Rich, what do you want me to do?
You want my cookie?
I'm just in first class.
It's not a big fucking deal.
joe rogan
You guys are so Italian.
That's such an Italian argument.
dom irrera
Give me my fucking cookie right up your ears.
unidentified
He doesn't even have the good salami over there.
That fucking salami's get the nitrates.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a tough...
It's a tough lesson for those guys that are super competitive and loners.
It's a tough lesson as you start getting older that none of this shit is fun if you don't have friends.
Yeah.
What we were talking about last night, we were all hanging out.
It was you and me and Kreischer and Josh Martin and Jesse Mae Peluso.
We're all hanging out.
dom irrera
I love that girl.
joe rogan
She's great.
She's so great.
But we're all laughing and having a great time.
Yeah.
We're all comics, you know?
dom irrera
Yeah, that's what it's all about.
joe rogan
It's supposed to be like that.
It's supposed to be we see each other, we hug each other.
You get excited.
dom irrera
I remember when I went to see the premiere of Batman, the very first one, and Jack Nicholson was in it, and he was at the bar and just fucking drinking and cheers with everybody, and Prince was there.
This little, you know, kind of faggotty Prince.
joe rogan
How dare you say faggotty?
dom irrera
Faggotatious.
unidentified
Shit!
dom irrera
You made me say it.
He's sitting there.
Joe, he's got two bodyguards sitting in front of him.
He's sitting there, and I'm thinking, what fun is it?
Why don't you talk to somebody?
joe rogan
Feels like royalty, though.
I mean, the guy named himself Prince.
How shocking is that he wants to be treated like royalty, with giant men guarding his flesh.
Get these people out of the way.
unidentified
I gotta get to my car.
I have an idea.
dom irrera
He had some high heels on, too.
I guess he wrote the music for that.
But anyway, it just struck me about...
Here's Nicholson.
Easily just as famous, if not more, than him.
And he was miserable, and Nicholson's all having fun.
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
Some people don't know how to...
But it's also part of what we were talking about earlier.
We were talking about Kobe Bryant.
And you were saying that Kobe, as he's gotten older, has become more humble and how convenient than when he's not doing good.
Right.
dom irrera
He lost his legs and gained a personality.
joe rogan
That could be the case.
But it also could be the case, couldn't it, that he's maturing as a man and learning and growing and realizing his mistakes and the consequences of his actions and Maybe reflecting on his behavior and changed who he is.
dom irrera
Yeah, it's not fun being alone with all your money.
What are you going to do?
Put your money in your bed and lay on it?
joe rogan
But those extreme winners, extreme winners, are so fucking hyper-crazy competitive.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, when I was talking to Lance Armstrong, it was really sinking in.
Because I know guys like him.
I know guys like him, whether it's fighters for the most part.
I know guys from the UFC. They're extreme winners.
They know how to win.
And one of the ways to know how to win, you gotta say fuck everybody else.
And those guys that say fuck everybody else like that, in the world of art, comedy, things along those lines, it's not necessary.
It fucks up.
It's not basketball where you have to intimidate your opponents.
It's better for everybody.
If you're nice to each other, you know?
dom irrera
I never felt that somebody else's success diminished me.
When I first started out, Eddie Murphy was about the same time.
He was getting these movies and some fucking Greedo comes up and goes, nah, I'm not for nothing.
Don't it bother you that Eddie Murphy's getting these movies and you're here at Bananas?
I go, what the fuck does it have to do with me?
Do you think if he didn't get 48 hours, I would have gotten it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That mentality is just a loser mentality.
And all it is is a pattern.
You let your brain go down that path.
There's a pattern of behavior.
Like, you recognize that somebody else has something, you want that something, and then you'd be upset that that person has it, and then you don't.
And it becomes this animal instinct thing.
It's like a jealousy.
I mean, chimpanzees have horrible jealousy, Dom.
Horrible jealousy.
That guy that got his face bit off and his dick ripped off, remember that guy?
dom irrera
I remember a woman getting a face pill.
joe rogan
There was a woman who did, but before the woman who did.
See, the woman who did, it was because her friend had the chimp, and the woman who lived with the chimp had some weird relationship with the chimp, where she slept with it, she gave him Xanax, and she gave him red wine.
So this fucking chimp was drunk and on pills.
And he ripped this lady's face off.
So that's one chimp.
Or had been drunk and on pills.
That's one chimp.
But then there was another chimp where this guy had a pet chimp.
And he went to visit his pet chimp.
And the chimp got to be a certain age.
They had to get rid of it because it was biting people.
And it was terrifying, right?
I think it bit someone's finger off.
Because that's what they do.
They grab your hand, they bite your finger off.
They tear your finger from your hand.
And they do it almost instantly.
That's their move.
If you're lucky.
If they don't go for your face.
dom irrera
My father left me down with a squirrel monkey once.
Before I was in first grade, I was a kindergarten kid.
Just me and a squirrel monkey and the monkey started fucking hissing at me.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
dom irrera
I was fucking terrified.
joe rogan
My grandmother had a monkey.
My grandmother had a monkey that lived in her attic.
dom irrera
He had a squirrel monkey.
joe rogan
It was called Chi Chi.
It would chew gum.
It would open up gum wrappers and chew gum.
dom irrera
What the fuck gets a monkey?
joe rogan
They're fucking out of their mind.
So anyway, these people, they went to visit their pet chimp at this sanctuary because they still loved them.
They had a relationship with this chimp, you know?
And they're like, we can't be with you anymore, but we're coming to visit.
And when they came to visit, they dropped off cake.
They gave him a cake, a birthday cake.
And the other chimps got furious that this chimp got cake and that they didn't.
And someone fucked up and left something open and they got out.
And when they got out, they tore this guy apart.
Just because he gave cake to this one guy and he didn't give it to him.
So they tore his dick off, tore his fingers off, bit his face off.
They just tear you apart.
They bite all your fingers off.
They don't give a fuck.
They're monsters.
dom irrera
I was on one of those shows, Petstar one.
Remember that?
The way you judge different animal tricks?
unidentified
No.
dom irrera
I was holding a baby gorilla.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
dom irrera
I mean, really young, but I mean, I thought this thing is going to be so fucking powerful.
It was just like a baby.
It put its head on my shoulder and I started making out with it.
It was nice.
joe rogan
Well, gorillas are more peaceful, I think.
dom irrera
Oh, and chimps?
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
Chimps are crazy.
joe rogan
Chimps are way more violent.
I mean, they're all violent.
They're all violent.
I mean, gorillas are vegetarians.
Pretty much exclusively.
So when you see a gorilla and those giant fangs that they have, that's just for fighting.
So they definitely fight each other, especially the males.
There was a video of a zoo recently, these two males beating the shit out of each other in some wildlife preserve.
Crazy.
You see how strong they are.
dom irrera
It's weird that they're like our size but stronger, like ten times stronger.
joe rogan
Well, they're way heavier.
You know, a full-grown gorilla is like 500 pounds or something crazy.
I think.
Does that make sense?
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think they get even bigger.
How big is the biggest silverback gorilla?
If you had to guess, what would you guess?
dom irrera
700 pounds.
joe rogan
Wow.
dom irrera
That's what I'm guessing.
I'm probably wrong by 400 pounds.
joe rogan
That's big.
I'm gonna go with five.
500 pounds.
dom irrera
I'll take the under.
joe rogan
You might be right though.
It might be like 800 or something.
dom irrera
I don't know.
joe rogan
I'm excited to find the results.
Oddly.
What do you got, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I found a gorilla named Titus.
I'm trying to find out if it's a documentary named Titus the Gorilla King.
I'm trying to find the size.
joe rogan
This is not helping me, Jamie.
jamie vernon
I know it doesn't say the size.
joe rogan
Well, just Google gorillas.
Mountain gorilla.
Gorilla.
Just Google gorilla.
You go to Wikipedia and it tells you exactly how much gorillas weigh.
dom irrera
Gorilla cock.
joe rogan
I'm saying 500 pounds.
I'm saying a full-grown gorilla is 500 pounds.
That's what I'm going with, Don.
dom irrera
I think I went over too far.
joe rogan
700?
You might not.
I'm going 650. The number eight, for some reason, is in my head.
800 pounds is in my head.
dom irrera
An 800-pound gorilla?
Yeah.
joe rogan
500-pound gorilla, right?
Wasn't that what they always said?
dom irrera
I don't know.
joe rogan
The 500-pound gorilla in the room?
dom irrera
Oh.
joe rogan
Wasn't it?
No, it's an elephant in the room.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
A 500 pound gorilla was the one who could do anything he wants.
jamie vernon
Yeah, about 510 pounds in the wild, and an obese one weighs about 600. Good job, Joe Rogan.
dom irrera
An obese one is 600. I defer to you in gorilla knowledge.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know my people.
dom irrera
You ever think of comedians who are smart?
joe rogan
Some of them.
dom irrera
I was with the dumbest fucking group of comedians at Laugh Factory the other night.
First of all, they go...
I'm going to Australia tomorrow, I told you.
The Sydney Festival, Perth Festival.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
In Australia.
unidentified
No worries.
dom irrera
Anyway, they said, how far is it?
One of the guys, I said, from Sydney to LA, Sydney is 7,000 miles.
Is that all?
I go, yeah, what'd you think?
He goes, I thought it was a couple hundred thousand miles.
I said, a couple hundred thousand miles?
I said, how far, what's the circumference of the earth?
He goes, I don't know, a couple hundred thousand.
I go, it's fucking, it's 24,000 miles something.
Then they didn't know anything, Joe.
I was like, so far, and I'm not going to, because you know all these guys.
One guy said, I said, well, how far do you think the earth is from the sun?
He goes, I don't know, like 4,000, 5,000 miles.
unidentified
I said, well, you think he fucking burned?
dom irrera
The sun is 93 million miles and we're still going to sunburn.
Like I'm all of a sudden this wizard.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're Carl Sagan all of a sudden.
That's hilarious.
How could you not?
A hundred thousand, a couple hundred thousand miles.
dom irrera
A couple hundred thousand miles.
joe rogan
That's funny.
dom irrera
I don't know, a couple late years.
joe rogan
Some people don't even consider the fact that we're on a giant 24,000 mile ball.
dom irrera
And we get cocky.
As if it can't just drop.
If it dropped two feet, we'd all feel it.
joe rogan
Well, if we get hit with something.
That's just the thing that gets me.
Did you see that recent impact they spotted on Jupiter?
They watched a comet collide with Jupiter.
dom irrera
A comic?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was up there bombing.
unidentified
Get it?
Come on.
joe rogan
They hired him for a corporate gig.
dom irrera
Is this thing odd?
joe rogan
Do you do corporate gigs, Dom?
dom irrera
Not many.
joe rogan
Not worth it, right?
dom irrera
A little too rude.
A little too rude for it.
joe rogan
They seem like they're not worth it.
dom irrera
I've had people crying.
The president of a company's wife was crying when you heard my act.
joe rogan
Good.
dom irrera
It's not for me.
joe rogan
Grow up, bitch.
dom irrera
You don't do corporate, right?
unidentified
No.
dom irrera
You just do your own thing.
joe rogan
It's not worth it.
Somebody just offered me one, a buddy of mine, who works at a company, and it would be a cool gig.
I want to be involved.
dom irrera
You know what?
It's always a key word to me, but it's got to keep it clean, but it's not much money.
Hey, why don't you go fuck yourself?
Did you ever see my stand-up?
joe rogan
Brian Callen did one recently.
dom irrera
Yeah, but he could do it because he's more theatrical.
joe rogan
The guy told him right before he was doing this thing, and he was...
unidentified
This is a different story.
joe rogan
It was a benefit.
That's what it is.
Okay.
He did a benefit, and right before...
It's a non-stand-up environment.
That's how it's connected.
It's doing a stand-up comedy show in something that's other than a stand-up comedy show.
So it's got some sort of an auction, some benefit or something like that.
And he was a part of it.
It was for some dude he knows it's famous.
So he goes.
And right before he's about to go on, they tell him to keep it PG.
They tell him, keep it PG.
There's a lot of religious people here.
Keep it PG. And he's like, what?
Like, wait, what are you saying?
You want me to come out here and do stand-up, but you want me to keep it PG? Like, you're going to tell me this right before I go on stage?
Like, I have an alternative set?
Like, you know, Brian has an hour that he does everywhere on the road.
He's got it honed down to a science, and that's what he's ready to do.
And right before he's ready to do that, they come to him and tell him to keep it PG. Yeah, that's ridiculous.
dom irrera
You know what I hate, Joe?
A little blue.
You can be a little blue.
What the fuck does that mean?
joe rogan
Don't hire somebody.
dom irrera
So relative.
joe rogan
Don't ask him to go.
If you don't know what someone...
Like, if you want to hire Gary Clark Jr., but you want him to play the fiddle, he doesn't play the fucking fiddle, stupid.
He's a guitarist.
I mean, he probably does, if he wants to.
If he wanted to, he should play the fiddle.
Yeah, but you're hiring Gary Clark Jr. to do Gary Clark Jr. That's what you want him to do, right?
You don't ask him to fucking sing like Adele.
It's stupid.
To get a...
R-rated comic like Callan and tell him to be PG right before he goes on stage.
That's rude.
dom irrera
He's not even that dirty, but he's definitely not PG. He talks a lot about cock.
joe rogan
A lot of cock.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of it.
dom irrera
Does he work out?
I can't tell.
joe rogan
He does.
Like a dancer.
dom irrera
I love to fuck with him.
joe rogan
I know.
But he plays along with it, but also actually gets insulted at the same time.
dom irrera
He can still hurt his feelings.
joe rogan
Yeah, he'll play along with it, talk about himself, that I'm built for dance, I'm more like a woman.
And you go, yeah, yeah, yeah, like real womanly.
Like a woman with narrow hips that would have to have a cesarean section.
And you see how it hits, I'm like, whoa, that doesn't feel good.
dom irrera
I remember I told Joe, I said, you know, it's interesting the way you stand up, because you don't particularly go for the laugh.
You don't pander to the crowd by trying to entertain them and all.
And he was going, and he's fucking with me a little.
Then he goes, Brian, I'm kidding.
But I got him a little.
joe rogan
Joey Diaz pulled his dick out on stage once and Dom turns to me and goes, I see he's been writing again.
unidentified
That was fucking funny. - True.
joe rogan
That's another example of friendship.
Joey Diaz.
Everybody who's around Joey loves Joey.
Everybody in Joey's circle, Joey's in a circle of love.
If you talk to Joey, whether it's Lee Syed or any of the people that he knows, any of the people that he's around with all the time, or it's me or Duncan or Ari, everybody loves him.
So he's around love and support all the time.
dom irrera
I love his phone calls.
You get them too, right?
He calls me...
He's the only one that says my whole name.
joe rogan
Just checking in on you, Dom Herrera.
dom irrera
Dom Herrera, you okay?
Yeah, Joe, how you doing?
Good.
All right, baby.
I'll talk to you later.
joe rogan
Yeah, he calls people up to tell you he loves you.
Just checks in on you.
He's a gem.
dom irrera
What a fucking killer actor.
You never know.
joe rogan
He was murdering in Santa Barbara, too.
unidentified
Woo!
dom irrera
He just plants his feet there, and he fucking kills.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Goddamn, he's hot right now.
Damn!
Joey Diaz.
He's on fire.
He puts out a lot of material, too.
Joey's always working on some new stuff.
He's always working on some new stuff.
dom irrera
Well, he found his voice.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
And he's also really popular right now.
Joey is selling out theaters.
He's selling out the Wilbur in Boston.
He can sell out a lot of pretty big places right now.
He sells out comedy clubs like crazy.
So people know what they're getting into.
They're looking forward to seeing him.
And when Joey feels comfortable, he's the most funniest when he's around us.
dom irrera
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because he's the most comfortable.
Because he's just surrounded by love.
And then he'll start talking shit.
And then you'll be crying.
Next thing you know, you're crying.
But now he gets that everywhere he goes now.
Because for years, he had to get these people to like him before he could be Uncle Joey.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, he had to get them to like him, and that was like part of the struggle was getting these people to understand what is in front of them.
Right.
They're looking at this 300-pound Cuban talking about eating asshole.
unidentified
You gotta eat the ass.
Am I right?
joe rogan
Am I right, ladies?
unidentified
You gotta eat that muffler.
joe rogan
And they're like, what the fuck?
And they don't know what to expect, and they didn't plan on seeing that.
So it takes a while.
But now that you plan on seeing it, and you know you're going to see him, then Joey Diaz, if you go to a Joey Diaz show, you go see him perform, it's all Joey Diaz fans.
And it's beautiful.
dom irrera
Yeah, it was beautiful.
We were splitting Bill at the Ice House last year a few times.
His fans are so much fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, and fans of his will be fans of you, and fans of you will be fans of his.
It's a great combination.
dom irrera
Yeah, but I mean, he's exactly what I'm talking about.
He made it because he's good, but he got exposure on the internet.
It wasn't through the regular, the old channels of The Tonight Show or HBO special or any of that shit.
joe rogan
No, they were all upset that it wasn't happening that way.
Ari was real upset about that.
Ari was real disgusted at one point in time by the old regime at Comedy Central.
And he was like, they kept using the same fucking people and I'll never get in there.
And meanwhile, now he's got a show in the second season on Comedy Central.
And everything about Ari, like all the stuff that kicked off, kicked off because of the internet.
The amazing racist stuff that he did.
dom irrera
Remember when he used to do Ask a Jew?
joe rogan
Yes.
dom irrera
At the Comedy Store?
He said to me, he was on my podcast, Joe, and he goes, what is it about me to look so Jewish?
I said, I don't know, you know.
He says, but you know I'm Jewish, right?
You know I'm a Jew by looking at me.
I said, but he said, what definitive features?
I don't know, your eyes, your nose.
I don't really want to break it down.
joe rogan
Your hair.
Jew's a weird one because it's a religion, but it's also a race.
Like, we say a guy looks Jewish.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you don't say a guy looks Catholic.
dom irrera
But you could be Jewish.
Like, the mayor of Ireland was Jewish, and he had red hair and blue eyes.
joe rogan
The mayor of Ireland was Jewish?
dom irrera
Yeah, mayor of Dublin, rather.
joe rogan
Really?
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, how can a mayor be a mayor of Ireland?
Well, it's only the size of a state.
They should stop being all high and mighty.
Just come over to the United States, folks.
dom irrera
I'll be in Kilkenny this year.
unidentified
United States of Ireland.
dom irrera
I'll be in Kilkenny in June.
joe rogan
Fun people, man.
dom irrera
Joe, I'd love to have you over there.
I was telling you about me and Burr over there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
Fucking crying, laughing.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were talking about Ireland.
I've done Dublin a couple times, and I did Northern Ireland.
I did Belfast.
Love it up there.
It's fun.
They're fun people, man.
I had a conversation with this fucking guy in a bar in Belfast.
We were both hammered.
But he was talking in a different language.
I mean, I'm not exaggerating.
I barely understood what he was talking about.
dom irrera
Well, because they don't open their mouths.
Like, the north of Ireland and Scotland are very similar.
They don't open their mouth when they talk, so you can't even lip-read.
joe rogan
And all he kept saying was, I'll fight any man.
That's all I could hear.
unidentified
I'll fight any man.
joe rogan
Because he knew we were here for the UFC. Just kept repeating himself.
I'm like, all right, dude.
Okay.
Go fight any man.
Good luck with all that.
I didn't know what to tell him.
unidentified
I'll fight any man.
joe rogan
Hammered.
Eyes rolling around his head.
Just priding himself on the beating that he can take.
dom irrera
In Glasgow, I was doing a TV show and this woman, I couldn't understand her, the stage manager.
I said, I'm sorry, excuse me.
And finally she goes, apparently we have a language body.
And I said, apparently we'd.
And she started laughing and then just got a translator for me.
joe rogan
A translator to speak English.
dom irrera
Well, yeah, have you ever seen Train Spotting?
Yes.
They have subtitles, even though they're all speaking English.
They're smart because it's hard to understand it for us.
joe rogan
Yeah, they do that a lot on like reality shows and stuff.
They'll put in subtitles because people are whispering about shit, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
But the fact that the slang or the way they talk in Northern Ireland, their dialect, is so much different than American English.
But they can understand us.
Like, if I'm talking like this, everybody can understand me, right?
dom irrera
Yeah, but they grew up on our media.
unidentified
But they were talking so loud and fast, and there's a thing, there's a difference between the way they talk, and all the other words are smushed together, lad!
They're smushed together!
dom irrera
That's pretty good, Joe.
joe rogan
You know, they're smushed.
We're lazier with our words.
dom irrera
But do you understand that they grew up watching The Sopranos and Seinfeld?
We didn't grow up watching Father Ted or any of those English or Irish shows.
joe rogan
No.
Well, Top Gear.
Top Gear with Jeremy Clarkson?
Richard Hammer?
What's his name?
Richard Hammond and something...
James May.
Yeah.
dom irrera
Great show.
I vaguely remember that.
joe rogan
Jeremy Clarkson is one of the funniest guys on TV in England.
He was hilarious.
Hilarious.
Just a car reviewer.
He was a writer and a guy who reviewed cars, who loved cars.
But he punched his producer.
They cancel the show.
Apparently, I don't know what happened.
Him and the guy have made up, but they've already fired him.
So now they're going to do it on Amazon now.
They're going to do the same show, but they have to come up with a new name for it.
So Jeremy Clarkson's been talking about it, and it won't come out.
It'll be more than a year from the time they fired him before this new one comes out.
Maybe contractual stuff.
But in that time, they hired a whole new crew of Top Gear.
And I wonder how the new crew is doing.
The new crew of Top Gear in England?
jamie vernon
Chris Evans is on it.
joe rogan
Who is it?
jamie vernon
Chris Evans is on it.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Google it.
What am I, a fucking computer?
jamie vernon
Google it.
unidentified
How dare you, lad?
jamie vernon
Chris Evans and Matt LeBlanc.
joe rogan
Matt LeBlanc?
jamie vernon
From Friends?
joe rogan
In England?
jamie vernon
No, the TV show Friends.
joe rogan
Right, in England.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he's on that show.
joe rogan
He's doing cop here in England.
Jamie, you're stoned.
What's going on here?
jamie vernon
A little bit.
joe rogan
You're a little out of it.
jamie vernon
No, I'm telling you, Chris Evans.
dom irrera
You didn't smoke today, Joe.
joe rogan
I did twice.
dom irrera
Oh.
joe rogan
I did right before the show.
How dare you?
jamie vernon
Chris Evans, the YouTube guy.
dom irrera
Sorry for accusing you of being straight.
jamie vernon
The YouTube car guy.
He's one of the hosts on the show, too.
joe rogan
In England.
jamie vernon
Yeah, he was on the podcast.
joe rogan
And Matt LeBlanc, the actor from Friends.
jamie vernon
Yeah, there's seven people that are on it.
joe rogan
Seven people on the New England show?
Wow, Matt LeBlanc in England.
So does Matt LeBlanc live in England now?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
unidentified
Whoa.
dom irrera
There he is, number three.
joe rogan
How weird.
Well, that's interesting.
They decided to go completely crazy and put six hosts instead of three.
jamie vernon
Yes, I'm sure they just team up to do different challenges like they did before.
joe rogan
Who is everybody there?
jamie vernon
I'm not sure who the rest of the people are.
dom irrera
The one guy looks like Ron James with the air let out of him.
joe rogan
Ron James with the air let out of him.
There's no list of the names?
jamie vernon
No, not here.
joe rogan
Hmm.
jamie vernon
It's weird.
dom irrera
This is on what, BBC? Yep.
Boy, they got fucking boring television.
joe rogan
Find out what the cast is, because who is that one guy in the background?
It's not Chris Harris.
jamie vernon
Ah, that's what I was trying, no?
joe rogan
No, you mean Chris Harris, the guy that was on the podcast?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You said the wrong name.
jamie vernon
Well, it says Chris Evans.
I don't know why I keep saying Chris Evans everywhere.
I thought his name was Chris Harris.
Yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
You sure the same guy?
Maybe it's Chris Evans and not Chris Harris.
I'm sure they probably know his name.
jamie vernon
Yeah, sidetracked.
joe rogan
Sorry.
Obviously, it's a different guy.
Who is this?
Well, just go to Google Chris Evans.
Let's see what the fuck's going on here.
Get to the bottom of this, goddammit.
Jesus Christ.
dom irrera
I hardly remember that show.
joe rogan
We'll get a photo of this gentleman so we see what he looks like.
No, that's not Chris Harris.
jamie vernon
So Chris Harris is the guy that was on here.
joe rogan
Yes.
Is he on this new show?
jamie vernon
Maybe they're both on it and that's why I'm confused.
joe rogan
It looks like it.
jamie vernon
That's Chris Harris, right?
Yes.
joe rogan
Confirmed.
So he's one of the new Top Gear hosts.
Aha!
Alright, that makes sense.
So that's Chris Evans, who's the red-headed gentleman, and then there's Chris Harris, who's been on the show.
Oh, well that might work.
That fucking guy's hilarious.
Harris is hilarious.
He's really funny, man.
He was really fucking smart, too.
Really smart.
dom irrera
What's his ethnic background?
joe rogan
I don't know.
jamie vernon
So she's a German, I think she's like a BMW driver.
This girl's Sabine Schmitz.
dom irrera
The middle guy looks familiar to me.
joe rogan
Do you feel like you could have a driver even though you're a man?
Yeah, definitely not.
Don't you feel like there's something about you that'll win?
jamie vernon
Maybe.
I mean, I just got a BMW, so...
I could probably tear it up.
joe rogan
I got my own BMW, so basically I'm a race car driver.
I don't take turns.
That Chris Harris guy is awesome, though.
His series, Chris Harris on Cars on YouTube, is one of the best reviews of automobiles.
He's one of the most thorough, one of the most humorous, and so educated and knowledgeable about the inner workings of a car and why certain aspects of a car affect other aspects of it and what's good and what's bad.
He's just a wizard, man.
He's really good.
He's a perfect guy to replace Jeremy Clarkson, because his humor is also very British.
It's not as insulting as Jeremy Clarkson tend to be, and probably not as, like, go for the punchline, because Jeremy Clarkson has some hilarious punchlines.
He's a really funny guy, man.
His reviews of cars were awesome.
It's like, I would watch it and just fast-forward through the other shit until he would get to a car, because he's just fun.
dom irrera
What was it on here?
joe rogan
It was on BBC America.
dom irrera
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
But there's a Top Gear, and then there's a Top Gear from here with Rutledge, who is here, and our buddy Adam Farrar is on it, and Tanner Faust.
dom irrera
That's the show Adam's on.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's on the American version.
The American version of Top Gear.
jamie vernon
I got the host names finally.
joe rogan
Okay.
dom irrera
We love you, Adam.
joe rogan
There we go.
Chris Harris.
YouTube star, they're calling him.
Chris Harris.
F1 Pundit.
Eddie Jordan.
Motoring journalist Rory Reed.
And Chris Evans and Matt LeBlanc.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
And The Stig.
Show returns in May.
Interesting.
So it's returning next month.
Hmm.
Look, man, if Harris is on it and they let him do his thing, it'll be awesome.
Matt LeBlanc grew up in my town.
dom irrera
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he grew up in Newton.
I heard about him when I moved here.
I think we dated the same girl at one point in time when we were young.
Like when we were in teenage years or something like that.
dom irrera
Are you the same age?
joe rogan
I think so.
I'm 48. I think he's 48, too, or something close to it.
But yeah, he's from Newton.
He's from Newton, Massachusetts.
He's 48?
Yeah.
I never met that dude though.
dom irrera
That's where John Katz lives.
Dr. Katz.
joe rogan
How's he doing?
Is he doing okay?
dom irrera
He's alright.
joe rogan
Still having some nerve problems, right?
Yeah, MS. Yeah, man.
dom irrera
He's funny as a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Always was.
He was the host of the first open mic night I ever did.
dom irrera
Really?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
dom irrera
He's not the kind of guy that should be hosting.
joe rogan
He was great.
dom irrera
Was he good?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was great.
I mean, he was a pro.
I knew what he was doing.
He's a pro.
But it was at Stitches Comedy Club in Boston, 1988, August 27th.
dom irrera
We were talking about Gary Shandling, you know.
August 28th, 19...
19 what?
unidentified
August 27th, 1988. 1988, okay.
joe rogan
Gary Shandling, man, so sad.
dom irrera
John was telling me about a line he said on Dr. Katz.
He said, it's important when you're making love to a woman that you end at the same time.
And Gary said, actually, it's more important that you begin at the same time.
That you begin making love at the same time.
joe rogan
Yes.
dom irrera
It's typical Dr. Katz kind of joke.
joe rogan
It's just not hitting me.
dom irrera
No, it's alright.
joe rogan
For whatever reason, I can't fake it.
dom irrera
Hey, that's why I said it was their joke.
I don't want to take responsibility for it.
joe rogan
Maybe it's coming out of your mouth.
I'm expecting it to be as funny as what you come up with, Dom.
dom irrera
Thank you, Joe.
joe rogan
You know what I mean, brother.
dom irrera
Appreciate it.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
dom irrera
I'm trying to write.
You know that.
joe rogan
Well, you're always writing.
You're one of those guys that's...
You're always enjoying the process.
You know, I think the funniest people that I know are all the ones like you or Diaz or...
Burr.
Any of those guys that are just constantly churning out new stuff.
Constantly working out putting on stuff.
dom irrera
That made me feel good a few weeks ago when you were in there.
Because I hear you laughing.
I heard Mark Maron laughing.
joe rogan
He was laughing.
I was crying though.
You were killing me.
You went up guns blazing.
It was funny, too, because you were following Christina Pazitzky, and she had this bit.
I won't give away the bit, but you went on after her, mocking the premise of the bit, and then you went deeper and deeper and deeper into it.
It was so preposterous.
That was fun.
That fucking place is so much fun.
dom irrera
I like to fuck around with the other acts when they're my friends, you know?
Yeah.
That's the one thing I used to like in the old Laugh Factory days when Brian was still coming in there and Chris DeLay was new.
And we'd get up in the balcony and just harass each other.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was fun, man.
I haven't been back to Laugh Factory.
Except for your shows in a long time.
But I did a show there the other night on Saturday or something like that.
On what day was it?
dom irrera
Tuesday?
joe rogan
Tuesday?
But damn, it was good.
The crowd was on fire, man.
I did one other set there, too, for another guy.
I did the John Henson show, and then I did a Wednesday night that was packed.
It was great.
dom irrera
They have a good room in Vegas.
joe rogan
That's what I heard.
But Brad Garrett's, they say, is better.
The Brad Garrett room at the MGM. For political reasons, I don't want to make a choice.
Oh, I like what you're doing there.
Well, just nod your head to the left if you think Brad Garrett's better.
Don't look.
Don't look at him.
dom irrera
They're both good.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the Brad Garrett one, I've yet to walk inside either one of them.
dom irrera
It's beautiful.
joe rogan
We've got to organize a time where we're both in Vegas at the same time.
unidentified
I know.
dom irrera
I love that.
joe rogan
How often do you do that room?
dom irrera
I'm doing it in July.
I'm doing Brad's in June.
joe rogan
What time is your show when you do it there?
dom irrera
Brad is only one show.
joe rogan
I think it's at 9. At 9. Well, if that's the case, you could go to the UFC and And still make it to your show.
You can go to the UFC and just leave at like 8. I had so much fun.
dom irrera
And especially one of the most compelling sounds I've ever heard of emotion was that in Montreal when you invited Tammy and I there.
That was amazing.
I forget the guy's name.
Very French name.
joe rogan
Georges St-Pierre.
Yeah.
dom irrera
Man, was that fun.
We got there just in time for that.
I was so glad he won.
It would have been such a bummer with that crowd like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
In Montreal and in...
In Toronto.
Toronto was the biggest crowd we had ever had before Australia for a UFC event.
dom irrera
Where'd you go to Australia?
joe rogan
Well, we've had them in Sydney, but the most recent one was in Melbourne, and it was this giant arena.
It was huge.
It was more than 60,000.
So it was more than the Rogers place in Toronto.
dom irrera
Was it Rod Laver?
joe rogan
What's that?
dom irrera
Rod Laver, the tennis guy?
joe rogan
What do you mean?
dom irrera
He has his own...
It's like a stadium or something.
joe rogan
Oh, could be.
Could be.
I don't remember.
I don't know.
I wasn't paying attention to the name of the place.
But it was awesome.
I love Melbourne.
Melbourne's amazing.
What a goddamn city that is.
unidentified
I know.
dom irrera
The restaurants are so good.
joe rogan
People are really smart, too.
Someone described it best.
They said it's like a San Francisco of Australia.
That's what it kind of feels like.
dom irrera
It is, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love it there, man.
That's one place outside of America, other than like Vancouver or Toronto or Montreal, where you go, oh, I could live here.
Montreal's cold as fuck, so is Toronto in the winter, but the people are so nice, it seems like it's almost worth the trade-off, you know?
dom irrera
Well, Australia, they're happy.
I think part of it is they're so far away from all the trouble.
I mean, even if you invaded them, you'd have to stop to refuel.
They're so ridiculously far.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
Isn't that amazing?
They took an island and they filled it up with criminals and it became an awesome country.
dom irrera
Yeah.
Then they got some really good lawyers because them and the aborigines cut a really bad deal for the aborigines.
Here, we'll give you all the shit spots in the middle with nothing barren land and we'll take the beaches and the cliffs.
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll take all the beautiful areas and you guys can have where the spiders live.
dom irrera
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is definitely a shit deal.
It's just a strange society there.
It's 20 million people on the entire island and the island is enormous.
dom irrera
There's more people in California or just as many.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
One of the things that's cool about that is when that door opens, you're in a different world.
The trees are different.
I'm going into fall.
It's kind of cool.
joe rogan
Have you ever gone to Africa?
dom irrera
No.
joe rogan
I've been thinking about going on one of those wildlife safaris in Tanzania.
As long as I know that it's some sort of a protected device.
dom irrera
See, I don't go to any place where you've got to get needles to go to.
joe rogan
Do you have to go to get needles before you go to Tanzania?
dom irrera
You don't have to get needles for South Africa.
You don't?
No, I'm almost positive you don't.
joe rogan
So they have some places in Africa where you have to get needles and some you don't?
dom irrera
Yeah, you have to get malaria shots and all that.
joe rogan
Do you think Tanzania is one of them?
dom irrera
I would bet that it is.
joe rogan
What about Zimbabwe?
Where should I go?
Where's the spot?
I just want to...
I think it would be cool to be somewhere...
I just like...
I don't like those open Jeeps, man.
I don't trust those fucking things.
unidentified
No, I don't either.
joe rogan
I've seen people use those things, and they say the cats don't jump inside, and it's safe, and you totally do it.
That's bullshit.
Man.
dom irrera
Well, you never did before.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, I guess they do it every day, and they know.
You know, I guess it's probably safe 90% of the time, or 99% of the time.
But if I could be in something where I knew that it was completely, like, closed off to the outside world, you can move around amongst them?
dom irrera
Did I ever tell you that I went to Australia and they had...
I thought I was going to see kangaroos and all this, you know, wallabies.
The guy says, you want some food?
I go, yeah.
And I thought, you know, you throw the food at the animals and they're all happy.
You go in there with them.
Right?
You're right there.
They're just like there.
You feed them.
Fucking kangaroos, when they get up, they're pretty big, you know?
joe rogan
If they want to kick you and fuck you up, too, they'll break your back.
dom irrera
I had to punch an emu in the neck.
Oh.
But it was bothering Sophie.
It kept nipping at her.
And I hit that motherfucker.
It was very funny because you hear...
I hit him and I really clocked him.
And you hear...
As he ran away.
But I didn't know that you just walked in with the animals.
joe rogan
Those are dinosaurs, man.
dom irrera
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They really are.
You know, they think that a good percentage of dinosaurs had feathers now.
They're starting to revamp their opinion...
Apparently there's a natural history museum now that actually has I think it's in New York that actually has a model of a Tyrannosaurus with feathers all over it.
dom irrera
Wow.
joe rogan
Because they think it might be what it looked like.
See if you can find that, Jamie.
Which kind of makes sense if you think about it.
I mean, look, we see turkeys.
We see these big ostriches and emus and all these fucking weird giant birds.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
Eagles.
They're all dinosaurs.
And they're covered with feathers.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's Natural History Museum, New York City model, something New York City model T-Rex feathers.
Because they actually have like a life-size T-Rex.
Or a model of T-ray, a large model of T-ray.
It might not be life-size.
But it's got feathers all over it.
I want to say that it's in New York City.
dom irrera
I never heard that.
Wow, that's wild.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're starting to think that now.
They're starting to think that maybe a lot of them had feathers.
dom irrera
So, wait a minute.
We were descendants of the ocean, or were we descendants of the land?
unidentified
Us?
joe rogan
Well, it all comes from the original sources, most likely the ocean.
They think that all that life came from moisture, right?
And some weird interaction with...
Proteins and amino acids and radiation.
There it is.
Look at that picture, Dom.
How crazy is that?
dom irrera
Holy shit.
joe rogan
What an insane photograph.
That is just insane.
So they think this might be what T-Rex looks like.
If you find it, it looks like the craziest bird ever.
Like just a demonic bird.
And it looks fucking terrifying.
jamie vernon
It kind of looks like hair, too, not just like feathers.
joe rogan
Well, you know, they were non-flight feathers, you know?
Like some birds have different kinds of feathers.
They know that there was these things called terror birds.
That lived in North America that were enormous.
They were like nine feet tall birds that didn't live that long ago.
I want to say they lived like a million years ago.
That's another one, another different example.
That's like a more conservative estimate of what the feathers looked like.
But there's these comparisons of terror birds, and they put them alongside human beings, and they lived right here.
They lived in North America.
dom irrera
They don't have any fossils of them?
joe rogan
They do.
They do have fossils of them.
And there were these enormous, like, nine-foot-tall birds that didn't fly, and they just jacked things, killed things.
But they had beaks like a bird.
So because they have beaks like a bird, we look at that particular type of...
Look at that thing.
Wow.
That's what these things look like.
I mean, these were real animals.
The image that we're looking at is a drawing, an artist's rendition of a man.
Looks like a six foot tall man standing next to a Volkswagen with these things towering above him.
And you get to see how big these fuckers are.
They were so big.
This one is three meters tall.
So that's nine feet tall.
Fuck you.
jamie vernon
Kilograms?
joe rogan
400 kilos.
jamie vernon
That's like a thousand pounds?
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
What's 50 cm?
joe rogan
Centimeters.
dom irrera
Oh.
joe rogan
Because this is all some different country where they speak some heathen language.
They call the metric system.
jamie vernon
Why is it 50 centimeters?
That doesn't seem right.
50 centimeters.
That's not that very...
dom irrera
They tried to pull it on us, but we wouldn't bite.
joe rogan
Well, it says 2.3 meters, 400 kilograms.
He's 50 centimeters.
The man?
No.
That can't be right.
Is that the man?
Is that what they're...
Is that the...
No.
What does that mean?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, that can't be 50 centimeters.
A centimeter's like an inch.
It's less than an inch, isn't it?
Yeah.
jamie vernon
He'd be a really short guy.
joe rogan
He'd be a tiny guy.
jamie vernon
Well, I guess he is.
joe rogan
Because he's below that.
jamie vernon
Look how tall he is compared to a beetle.
A beetle's not very tall, so maybe he is a short guy.
joe rogan
Maybe.
But what is 50 centimeters as far as...
Because 50 centimeters is above his head.
I mean, it is possible to use the short guy just to make a point, but...
Well, yeah, you know what?
He looks short because, look, if it's nine feet tall, it's only double his size.
Is he four and a half feet tall?
Is that a child?
Are they playing with our emotions here?
The fuck is going on?
Point being, that fucking thing was alive.
jamie vernon
50 centimeters is less than 2 feet.
It's only 20 inches.
joe rogan
It's a little dude.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
That's not right.
Because the VW bug is definitely taller than that.
jamie vernon
Yeah, they just made a mistake.
It's a bad picture.
joe rogan
What year do these things exist?
These terror birds?
Does it say what year?
What a fucking weird world we have as far as the biological diversity.
dom irrera
Well, this is all new to me.
I thought we were set on what the dinosaurs looked like by their bone structure.
joe rogan
This is not a dinosaur.
This is 1.8 million years ago.
From 62 to 1.8 million years ago.
So, if it's from 62 to 1.8, what is that?
New findings dating them to 450,000 17,000 years ago.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Would imply that some...
Wow, how do you say that word?
For us...
For us...
Rossids.
For us racids.
Survived there until recently, i.e.
the late Pleistocene.
But this...
This claim is debated.
So, it's possible that it was 17,000 years ago.
It's likely that...
It's somewhere between that and 1.8 million years ago, which is, like, way later than the dinosaurs.
The dinosaurs were 65 million years ago, so the oldest date they have is 62 million years, so it's 3 million years newer than the dinosaurs died.
These monster-ass birds survived that impact.
That's what they are.
They're fucking beasts.
dom irrera
Where do you think it hit?
joe rogan
Where?
They think it hit the Yucatan, the one that killed the dinosaurs.
They pretty much know where it hit.
They have this whole area.
dom irrera
Did that just push the Earth out of the orbit a little?
joe rogan
Well, they think it did something to the atmosphere for sure.
They think it rained lava, like literally rained lava.
They think the impact from it clouded the sky and caused nuclear winter.
I mean, the impact had the actual sphere, the globe, the Earth itself was ringing like a bell for like years.
Look at that.
That's the area.
That's the area where it hit.
jamie vernon
The crater's buried in the ocean.
joe rogan
What?
Could you just imagine how big that...
I mean, that's 65 million years ago.
That thing hit and everything started from scratch.
The whole world got a whole new order.
Everything's different.
And that can happen at any time.
Not only can it happen at any time, it's most likely gonna happen.
dom irrera
That's why we should never get too cocky.
joe rogan
Never get too cocky.
You gotta take a leak?
What is that?
What are you showing me?
Uh, we'll figure it out.
dom irrera
Alright.
joe rogan
Relax.
Dominic Herrera with secret information that he wrote down.
I had to read his handwriting too.
dom irrera
Sorry about that.
joe rogan
How long before people don't write things anymore?
Is that coming?
dom irrera
This is here.
joe rogan
But we write that.
We wrote those notes.
People still write little notes.
dom irrera
Yeah, well, we still text.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like we like going to a place where we see a chalkboard and the menu's written in chalk.
Like, oh, they wrote it themselves.
dom irrera
Well, they don't teach cursive anymore.
joe rogan
No.
They shouldn't.
dom irrera
Did you learn that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
Did you go to Catholic grade school?
joe rogan
No, I went to first grade Catholic school and then public school after that.
dom irrera
This was in New York though?
joe rogan
No, no.
I went New Jersey, Catholic school, and then San Francisco public school after that, then Florida, then Boston.
dom irrera
Where in Florida?
joe rogan
Gainesville.
dom irrera
Wow.
Every time I meet you, I learn something new.
joe rogan
That was when, when I was a kid, alligators were endangered, and we would go to this place called Lake Alice in Gainesville.
We'd feed the alligators marshmallows.
And it was weird, man.
We just didn't worry about alligators.
They were around.
They were always around.
And they really didn't bother people.
dom irrera
No, they don't.
joe rogan
But there's just this agreement with people and alligators for whatever fucking strange reason.
It didn't make any sense.
It was almost like evolutionarily, it was a bad idea for them to fuck with people, so they just didn't fuck with people.
dom irrera
You don't bother me, I don't bother you.
joe rogan
But they would occasionally jack someone's dog.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
And when I lived there, this lady got her poodle, snapped right off of her chain.
She was walking it by the water, this old lady.
And this thing just came out.
unidentified
God!
joe rogan
You see the video I posted on my Twitter today?
Some dude sent it to me and I retweeted it.
It's this guy's catfishing, and he's got these lines set out, and you have a bobber that's floating in the middle of the lake, a big heavy bobber, and when you catch a catfish, you just see the bobber moving around so you know you got one.
So he goes over to the bobber.
Check this out, Dom.
Look at it.
He pulls it up.
Give us some volume here, Jamie.
dom irrera
I think we got a garfish, dude.
joe rogan
Because he knew it was big.
He thought it was a gar.
Watch this.
Oh my god!
unidentified
That's a big ass gator, buddy.
That is a big gator.
dom irrera
His legs are just like a little kid.
unidentified
Oh, he's crying.
joe rogan
Yeah, of course the kid's crying.
Mom's got eaten by a dinosaur.
He's calling for mommy.
Alright, kill us out.
That's insane.
unidentified
Whew.
joe rogan
Fuck all that.
Look at when it comes up.
Watch this.
Jesus Christ.
It's like a horror movie.
Seen that thing in that mouth come up?
I was in Costa Rica and I saw some crocodiles in the wild.
We went on this tour.
You get in a boat.
Ooh, Jesus.
You get in a boat and you see these crocodiles lounging themselves on the water, on the banks, on the water.
And then when you're passing by, they just run and slither into the water and go under the brown water and you can't find them.
You don't know where the fuck they are.
It is so eerie.
dom irrera
What's the difference between a crocodile and an alligator?
joe rogan
Crocodiles are way more aggressive.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Way more aggressive.
Yeah.
Those are smaller crocodiles because they're South American crocodiles.
They're not like Nile crocodiles.
If they were Nile crocodiles, you wouldn't even want to be in a boat.
You definitely wouldn't want to be in one of those boats.
dom irrera
They'll knock it over?
joe rogan
No, they'll fuck you up.
There was a...
I forget what Nature magazine, like National Geographic, or one of those...
Types magazines that had a story about these kayakers that were going down a river in the Congo.
I forget what river it was, but they were going down this river and this One guy was behind this other guy in a kayak and he watched the croc come up, snap a hold of its jaws, like snap its jaws down on the kayak and then pull it under like a bobber and flipped it over and he watched it.
Yeah, there it is.
Kayakers recount deadly Congo crocodile attack.
So he flipped over the kayak and then the kayaks bouncing up and down because the croc is pulling this guy's body out of the harness and pulling him into the water underneath it.
And this guy behind him is watching this and he's seeing the blood and the water and all the bubbles and this behemoth, this hundred-million-year-old behemoth that's clamped its gigantic teeth down on this guy's flesh and is tearing it apart right in front of you.
dom irrera
Wow.
See, Joe, that's what makes you so much more of a man than me.
You would even entertain the thought of going there.
I want to see it.
joe rogan
I want to see it before...
dom irrera
I want to see it just like from here.
joe rogan
I used to think that, too.
I used to think that, too, but lately I've wanted to see it, man.
You know, with all this talk of, like, they're killing rhinos and killing elephants, and there was this thing today where they're having to gun down these lions in Dimbabwe because they're not having hunters come there anymore.
Like, they don't have anybody to manage the population, and these lions are devastating their undulates, all the antelopes and all that shit, so...
These hunters are hiring these...
In Africa, they call them professional hunters.
They're like guides.
Just people that are hired by the government.
And they're going in there and they had to kill some lions.
They had to kill lions that were encroaching on people's property and killing livestock and threatening people.
It's just...
It's all weird, man.
dom irrera
Remember that discussion you had with Jen that night in the bar?
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
About killing deer and how you have to kill some or they'll all be dead?
joe rogan
Well, we talked about it here on the podcast yesterday.
My friend John Dudley was here, and we found a statistic that's unbelievably insane.
And that statistic is there's 1.5 million car accidents a year where people hit deer.
In America.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Just in America.
We knew that it was 50,000 in Michigan.
We were like, how crazy is that?
But then we found out about the whole country and we were like, holy shit.
dom irrera
That's amazing.
joe rogan
And where my friend John lives, like him and his wife, when they have conversations on the phone, it's always, like, as they're talking about their drive home from work, it's always, yeah, we almost hit a deer.
I saw a deer.
We saw five deer.
dom irrera
What do you do?
Drive slow?
What's the answer?
joe rogan
You can.
They also have these little whistles that you put on the front of your car that lets the deer know you're coming and the deer will gently get out of the way.
It's like a high-pitched whistle that only the deer can hear.
And then also, a lot of guys, they say, well, I'm just going to get a battering ram in the front of my truck.
So what they do is they get these deer guards, and they put them on semis in particular because there's places where truckers are hauling goods in the middle of the night.
I mean, even in the day.
It doesn't even have to be in the middle of the night.
But they'll run into a truck, and that truck will get crippled by a deer.
And the deer will go into the gearing, into the engine bay, and just destroy everything, tear out the radiator, tear out the radiator.
So they had to develop these gigantic, like, Mad Max-style bumpers that they put on the front of these semis just to protect the truck itself from fucking killing things.
Like deer.
Slamming into it.
dom irrera
A lot of people get killed too, right?
joe rogan
200 a year.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this fucking picture.
We're looking at this picture of this guy's got this gigantic metal barrier in the front of his truck, and this deer just went into it, crushed it, and it spray-painted the side of the truck red all the way up to the windshield.
And the deer's like hanging.
From the front bumper.
Fuck, man.
Yeah, look at those things that they make.
Look at that one that you're hovering over.
Click on that.
Look at the size of that thing.
I mean, it's like you're driving around a non-aerodynamic battering ram just to protect your car from slamming into animals.
Look at that.
It's crazy.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
They do unbelievable damage when you're hitting a 150-pound animal and you're going 70 miles an hour.
Look at that one where the car's Got the deer hanging out of the front.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, it's inside the engine.
dom irrera
Jeez.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They just...
And that's if you're lucky.
If you're unlucky, they go inside your front windshield.
My friend Cam, he lives up in Oregon, and a guy in front of him, not in front of him, but a guy died because the man in front of him hit a deer.
The deer went flying over that person's hood and threw his windshield and killed him.
dom irrera
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look at that.
Just fucking blood and gore.
All right, Jamie, you're bumming me out, man.
It's a deer in the front seat.
Yeah, there's a lot of them.
She's, you know, she's a loving person.
That's why she has this distorted perception of it.
dom irrera
She's a loving person.
joe rogan
She doesn't want these animals to die.
I get it.
dom irrera
Nobody wants them to die.
joe rogan
That's the thing about this world that we live in.
It's very ambiguous in a lot of ways.
There's not a clear right and a wrong.
There's a lot of things that seem like they're wrong, but if you don't do them, everything's going to be way worse.
And one of those things is killing beautiful animals.
It seems like it's wrong to kill deer.
If you don't kill deer, it's way worse.
dom irrera
They're all dead.
joe rogan
They're fucked, and then we're fucked.
And there's going to be diseases, and there's going to be a lot of problems.
There's also going to be a lot of predators.
If you have a surplus of deer, nature finds a balance.
If you have a surplus of deer and there's any predators in the area, you're going to get a surplus of those predators.
Because those predators are going to have way more food.
They're going to thrive.
They're going to breed.
So then you're going to have to figure out how to manage not just the deer, But you're also going to have to manage the predator populations.
You're just going to have to.
And if you don't do it, you've got real problems.
Yeah, that's an 18-foot-long alligator they shot.
What?
jamie vernon
Killing cattle?
joe rogan
Yeah, what?
dom irrera
This is in Florida?
joe rogan
Yeah.
What?
He was killing cows.
Jesus Christ.
Look at that thing.
So this is predator control.
And we don't have that much of a problem with this kind of predator control because it's a fucking heartless, cold-blooded monster.
By the way, we were so retarded.
We were trying to figure out what the difference between how can a Komodo dragon be the biggest lizard and a crocodile's not because it's bigger.
A crocodile's a reptile.
That's how stupid we are.
jamie vernon
What is a lizard?
Is it not a reptile?
joe rogan
It's different.
It's different.
There's lizards, there's reptiles.
Google it.
People are tweeting me, man.
That's the extent I researched it.
Yeah, reptiles, bro.
Get it together, bitch.
jamie vernon
Lizards are a widespread group of squamate reptiles.
joe rogan
Right, but a crocodile is not a lizard.
It's a reptile.
jamie vernon
Oh, it's a different kind of reptile.
Yes, exactly.
joe rogan
Sort of like we're apes, but we're not monkeys.
Or we're apes.
No, all monkeys are apes, but not all...
All apes are monkeys.
Yeah.
Yeah, all monkeys are apes, but not all apes are monkeys.
Is that right?
No.
All apes are monkeys, but not all monkeys are apes.
I think that's it.
Some of them are simians.
Like an ape is different, right?
Apes are chimps and gorillas and orangutans and us, right?
And baboons.
Is baboon an ape?
jamie vernon
Like we're all mammals, but we're not all the same kind of mammal.
joe rogan
Exactly.
jamie vernon
Fish or something.
dom irrera
I'll be seeing marsupials, which is a whole different world.
joe rogan
You'll be seeing the people with the pouches out here.
There was an article recently that this guy wrote saying that the word monkey isn't...
People criticize the word monkey.
They say it's not the correct word to use.
And he said that's not true.
Not only is it not true, all apes are monkeys, but not all monkeys are apes.
That was, I think, the title of this guy's paper.
It was really interesting.
Because I always thought that the word monkey was almost like a slang.
Apparently it's not.
dom irrera
No, they're different.
joe rogan
You can actually use that word.
dom irrera
Yeah, there's different species of monkeys as far as I know.
joe rogan
And you're a monkey.
How about that?
dom irrera
Hey.
Fuck you, Joe.
You bullshit.
I don't need this.
joe rogan
Hey, I'm over here in first class.
unidentified
ABC paid for it.
dom irrera
I'll get you the cookie, Rich.
joe rogan
We were talking about our pal Steve Shariba before his podcast started, who was in The Sopranos.
He's awesome.
He's going to be in the podcast within like two weeks.
dom irrera
Yeah, well listen up for him.
He's a killer.
He's funny when he's trying to be funny.
He's funnier when he's serious.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was Bobby on The Sopranos, the big guy.
It was Bobby, right?
That was his character in The Sopranos?
dom irrera
I think so, yeah.
He was married to the lead sister.
joe rogan
Yes, Tony Soprano's sister.
dom irrera
Yeah.
Gandolfini.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
Gandolfini comes up to me.
I was with Steve at the Hard Rock.
Comes up to me.
I think he had the wrong guy.
He goes, he kisses me.
He kisses me on the cheek, kisses me on the other cheek.
He says, man, I saw you on Broadway.
I fucking loved you.
Thinking, what the fuck Broadway did I ever do?
joe rogan
Were you on Broadway ever just hanging out?
dom irrera
Well, I mean...
Cruising for guys.
joe rogan
The way you looked.
I saw the clothes.
dom irrera
I think, unless I was at Caroline's...
joe rogan
I like the cut of your jib.
Well, it was Caroline's on Broadway.
It's probably where he saw you.
dom irrera
People don't usually call that Broadway.
joe rogan
The non-comic group.
They don't know the lineage.
They don't know the verbiage.
dom irrera
They don't.
joe rogan
They don't know our vernacular, Dominic.
dom irrera
Do you go into New York at all?
You do theaters there, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Next time I go, I want to do a club, though, I think.
I love the Beacon Theater.
I had a great time there last time.
dom irrera
I love Governors.
joe rogan
Governors is great.
dom irrera
Governors and the brokerage.
joe rogan
But I want to do Gotham.
I haven't done Gotham in forever.
dom irrera
Yeah, I did a TV show there last year, but I haven't done stand-up there for a while.
joe rogan
What a fucking great club.
I heard the stand's great, too, now.
dom irrera
I didn't know that one.
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard it's great.
But my problem is I always go in there for UFC and comedy.
Like, I don't have enough time to hang around.
dom irrera
That's a good problem, Joe.
joe rogan
It's not a bad problem.
But I don't have enough time to hang around.
There's an interesting scene in New York.
There's a bunch of different factions in the scene.
There's even a weird alt scene in Brooklyn.
dom irrera
Yeah, they had to branch out.
joe rogan
A lot of weirdness, but interesting.
It's like there's a lot of bubbling creativity and people trying to find their niche right now.
There's all these different people kind of scrambling to find...
They're niche in the world of comedy.
And when you look at the different communities that develop in different parts of the country, it's interesting to see the different styles, you know?
dom irrera
Do people ask...
Young comics ask you, like, how you made it?
No.
joe rogan
That's so open-ended.
dom irrera
Yeah, but I always get asked, how do you get certain things?
You know, like the thing...
I've lost my patience with some people looking for an easy way out.
I go, you know, you get it because people ask for you.
They always think this club owner hates them or this shit.
I say, he doesn't fucking hate you.
He's trying to pay his bills.
He doesn't even think about you.
joe rogan
Well, there's some legitimate questions that young comics ask.
Like, how does one go about getting a manager?
How do you get an agent?
All that kind of stuff.
That's good.
And it's good for us to give advice to young comics saying, do not get a manager because it's the first manager that asks you.
Because there's a lot of people that are going to be the first manager that asks you to manage them and they might not be right for you.
That's why you look at a lot of guys like Chappelle or, you know, a lot of these guys that have left their management.
Like, they started with one guy, and they didn't want to be with him anymore, and they left, and they left, like, maybe again, maybe again.
You know, I know quite a few guys.
dom irrera
Was that Chappelle's old manager we saw last week at the improv?
joe rogan
Yes.
dom irrera
Oh, that was funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a few of those...
dom irrera
That was a fucking hilarious moment of tension.
You and Tosh and I were standing there, and he just said hi to me, kind of dipped in.
joe rogan
Well, he knows we don't like him.
Yeah.
Not that I hate them.
There's only so much Hollywood a man can take.
dom irrera
Right.
joe rogan
He's just screaming out in agony what you have imposed upon us.
Stop.
There's a few of those guys.
dom irrera
It was a funny fucking moment frozen in time.
I'll never forget the look.
Dipping in.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of those guys, man, that really shouldn't be involved in management.
You know, I had a...
Okay, Kevin James.
Kevin James is a good friend.
And one of his earlier managers was giving him fucking terrible advice, including wanting him to stay fat.
Kevin was trying to be healthy and was trying to lose some weight.
And the guy literally said to him, Kevin, if you lose weight, you're going to lose roles.
You're not going to get cast.
You're the lovable fat guy.
It's paying off.
dom irrera
Stick with it.
joe rogan
But that was his real statement.
If you lose weight, you lose roles.
And Kevin came back to talk to me about it, and he was just really beaten up by it.
He was like, what the fuck?
Because that's not what Kevin wanted to hear.
Kevin is a guy that works hard, and he's very smart, but...
If you tell him that the sky is falling, he'll be like, holy shit, are you sure the sky is falling?
Fuck, the sky is falling.
He needs encouragement.
He's really funny when he's around his friends.
We were talking about Joey being surrounded by people who love him.
Kevin operates kind of in the same way.
dom irrera
I agree.
We had a great dinner one night.
Remember when I came to see you over at the Palm?
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
It was fun to see him relaxed and loose.
joe rogan
Well, he knows I love him.
That's why it was fun doing those movies with him.
But Kevin, when you're supporting him and when he's around people that support him, he can be himself and he can cut loose.
Well, you got someone telling you, hey, man, don't get healthy.
Because if you get healthy, you won't be successful.
You have to choose one or the other.
And I go, dude, that's crazy.
Think about how many people that are funny that aren't fat are telling me that it's impossible for you to be.
You're hilarious.
dom irrera
His whole act wasn't predicated on fat.
joe rogan
Not at all.
But he felt, in some weird way, That people loved him because he was a big jolly guy.
You know?
dom irrera
No, he's talented.
joe rogan
He's fucking talented as hell.
And so it angered me.
It angered me that someone would try to limit him in that way.
That someone would try to put him in the...
But that's the problem with having a bad manager when you're a young guy.
When everything is just starting out...
And you know, you're in your 20s, and you're all vulnerable, and you only started out just a few years ago, and you're still getting your feet wet.
You're trying to figure out how to do this thing.
You know, should I go like this?
Should I go like that?
And you know, Kevin would do this thing, what he calls going full shimmy.
And Full Shimmy was and he fucking freaked out about something because Shimmy was his nickname.
We always call him Shimmy.
dom irrera
Oh, I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Full Shimmy would be when he would just go ballistic.
And like he would be like one time we were hanging out together and I went with him.
He had a gig and I just went with him to watch just to laugh, just to sit down and laugh.
And because I was there, he was like having a great time.
He'd hear me laugh.
dom irrera
Showing off for you.
joe rogan
He said he got into it because I swear to God, people don't know how good Kevin James was at one point in his career.
I mean, I'm assuming he's just as good now, but I haven't seen him do stand-up in a long time.
unidentified
Yeah, I haven't either.
joe rogan
He was going off, and his face was red, and he was spitting, and he was just going off about something, and that was what we would call going full shimmy.
You're not going to do that if you're worried about people not liking you if you lose.
You've got to be free to go off.
You know?
It's like we're a guy like Joey.
You gotta be free to be able to just cut loose.
And those bad managers are fucking terrible for that.
Because they've never done stand-up.
They don't know what it takes.
They haven't grasped the concept that each individual has to find their own path.
All they're thinking about is how to mold someone into some bullshit persona for a marketing point of view.
You know?
For marketing purposes.
That's what they're thinking about.
How can I sell this guy?
dom irrera
I think the path thing is really what I'd like to say.
Take your own path.
Some people make it in two years.
Some people make it in 10, 15. Like we're talking about Joey Diaz.
I got one Sharippa story to tell you about.
You know my name and your manager on the air, do you?
joe rogan
Mine?
Well, I don't know if he wants that.
dom irrera
Okay, so it was him.
joe rogan
It's easy to find.
dom irrera
It was him.
And he said, we always have Sherpa stories.
So he says, I told Sherpa, I said, we're going to Lake Mead on Saturday.
You want to go?
And Steve goes, no, I can't, but I can comp you a boat.
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember that.
dom irrera
Can I tell you this?
And your manager says to me, who the fuck else can comp you a boat but Sherpa?
He was so connected to Vegas.
joe rogan
Syrup is the best.
She's such a character.
As is my manager.
dom irrera
Yeah, he's funny.
joe rogan
Jeff's a goddamn character, too.
You know who he's really into now?
He goes striper fishing.
dom irrera
Really?
joe rogan
Surf casting.
Loves it.
dom irrera
It's when you stand in the water?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can stand in the water with waders.
You can just stand on the beach itself and cast into the water.
dom irrera
Oh, this is the ocean.
joe rogan
Yeah, he catches these giant-ass fucking striped bass.
God, there's a wild world just outside New York.
And a lot of people don't know about it.
Like, if you go to certain parts of Long Island, you go surf casting.
dom irrera
Oh, it's beautiful, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
But it's incredible.
He took me once.
We weren't successful.
But I got it just being there with him.
I got what he likes about it.
Like, there's a whole process to it.
You take some air out of your tires.
And there's places where you're allowed to drive onto the sand and you pull up on the sand.
These are like fairly remote areas in Long Island that these guys go to specifically just for surf casting striped bass.
That's what everybody wants to catch.
They want to catch stripers.
And they're all casting out these giant ass fucking poles because, you know, you can get a 30 pound fish.
You got big ass striped bass out there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't catch them that often, but sometimes you run into a whole school of them and everybody catches them.
Those are like these magical times.
It's an interesting...
In a lot of ways, fishing is like an interesting discipline, you know, and Jeff's kind of found it.
dom irrera
I don't have the patience for it.
joe rogan
No?
unidentified
You're too ADD. Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, you play pool, though.
dom irrera
I love pool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But you have patience for that.
dom irrera
Yeah, well, I guess I have patience for the things I love.
Fishing, to me, I can't imagine.
joe rogan
Have you ever caught a fish and then cooked it and ate it?
dom irrera
No.
joe rogan
How dare you?
Who are you?
How'd you get in here?
dom irrera
I'm a pescatarian.
I always love these people that say, you know, they don't eat meat, but they eat fish.
Like, as if that's humane.
How do you know fish don't have feelings?
joe rogan
Well, they don't take care of their children.
dom irrera
What, fish?
joe rogan
Yeah, they shit out some eggs and the male comes over and cums on them like a freak.
dom irrera
Joe.
joe rogan
That's what happens.
dom irrera
That's very rude.
joe rogan
That's how they do it.
dom irrera
Can we talk about this later?
joe rogan
I saw a guy on Instagram bragging about how he's 90% vegetarian.
unidentified
Nice.
joe rogan
He was talking shit about people who eat meat, and hunters in particular.
He's talking shit about hunting.
And he's saying, look, I get it.
I'm 90% vegetarian.
But, you know, what you people are doing is awful.
Like, fuck you!
dom irrera
It's only bacon because it's delicious.
joe rogan
But how funny is that?
Where someone can pretend.
dom irrera
What's the 10% that he...
joe rogan
Fucking bacon!
Ham sandwiches, cheeseburgers.
Every now and then he goes off.
So he's trying to say that he's got some moral right to complain about someone who hunts because he's 90% vegetarian.
And that's not vegan either, by the way, which means milk, animal products, eggs.
dom irrera
That's a tough one.
joe rogan
Ridiculous fuck.
Ridiculous dummy.
But that, like, taking the moral high ground from saying, I kill less animals per year than most.
Okay, man?
unidentified
Most of the time, not killing anything.
joe rogan
People are so goofy.
90% vegetarian.
The fact that you would write that down and go, yeah, send.
That's it.
Post it.
I'm going to let this motherfucker know.
unidentified
Yeah.
dom irrera
I've never heard that.
That's the most ridiculous one I've ever heard.
I've heard a lot of rationalizations, but that's...
joe rogan
There's so many dummies out there.
I think that if you did go catch a fish once and then cook it and ate it, you would get it.
You definitely get it a little bit.
It's fun.
It's fun to catch them and then they taste so good.
If you can catch a fish and then have it cooked or you cook it within a few hours of pulling it out of the ocean, holy shit.
It's like a different thing.
Something happens to fish when it sits around for too long.
Even when it's frozen and thawed out, it just doesn't retain the same quality that it has when you pull it right out of the water.
dom irrera
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
I was in Honolulu and they had a place where you cook your own fish.
joe rogan
Oh yeah?
dom irrera
I didn't want to cook my own fish.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
I said, what are you going to wash my own dishes, too?
What kind of restaurant is this?
joe rogan
Well, you don't, like, go to those grill places where you lay the meat out.
They have, like, a Japanese place near me that has, like, these little grills in front of you.
dom irrera
Oh, the hibachi?
joe rogan
Yeah, something like that.
And you lay the meat out, and you cook it right in front of you.
Have you seen that shit?
jamie vernon
Korean barbecue, I think.
joe rogan
I've seen Korean barbecue, but I've also seen a Japanese one.
You know, they probably ripped it off in the Koreans.
Let's be honest.
jamie vernon
Is it good?
You like it though?
Is it good?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fun.
dom irrera
Start a controversy over there.
joe rogan
But you cook it yourself.
It's kind of weird.
You're cooking.
What do you do?
You provide me a plate of meat?
jamie vernon
There's a couple of actual grill...
I don't know exactly where they are, but I've seen them on TV probably because there's only one or two.
But you go pick up your meat like a butcher.
Like the front of the store is a butcher type place and the back is a bunch of grills and you hang out with your friends and grill your own steaks.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
At the restaurant, then just sit down at a picnic table.
dom irrera
I don't want to do that.
joe rogan
If you know what you're doing, though, it's fun.
And then you don't have to do any of the cleanup.
If they do it the right way.
If they have really good grills, they use mesquite lump charcoal, and they set the coals up nice, that'd be pretty cool.
dom irrera
I use Y-Cook and Yummy.
joe rogan
Y-Cook?
dom irrera
Yeah, Y-Cook.
Y-Cook is like a thing.
A friend of mine owns it, and it's like high-end restaurants that deliver.
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
dom irrera
Oh, that's great.
A friend of mine, he's a triathlete, right?
And he's probably going to make the Olympics.
He was staying over at my house, and I said, you want to go shopping?
And I hand him the Yummy thing.
I said, what do you mean?
I said, we're not going anywhere.
You just fucking call for the food.
joe rogan
You don't go to restaurants?
dom irrera
Oh, I go to restaurants, yeah.
joe rogan
But you'd rather just have it delivered?
dom irrera
No, just from watching a game or something.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
So do you cook ever?
dom irrera
Never.
I reheat.
joe rogan
So you have like a whole stove that just sits there.
dom irrera
The only time that my stove is used is to heat up water for tea.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
You've never sat down and cooked a steak and made some mashed potatoes or anything?
dom irrera
I used to cook what I call chicken irera, which was two lumps of margarine and black pepper on chicken at 325 for an hour.
joe rogan
Jesus.
dom irrera
The only thing I ever cooked.
joe rogan
How bad was it?
dom irrera
I don't know.
I was starving, so it tasted pretty good.
This is when I was really broke, doing my little Joey Bag of Donuts act.
joe rogan
So you never got into cooking yourself a meal?
That's interesting.
I'm a big fan of cooking.
dom irrera
Are you?
joe rogan
Yeah, I love it.
dom irrera
That's good.
It keeps your head straight.
joe rogan
Well, it's also satisfying.
You make a nice meal and you sit down and eat it.
I like it.
Plus, I like controlling what goes in my body 100%.
I'm on this wacky, very low-carb, low-sugar intake diet.
No processed sugar, no added sugar.
I don't eat any candy or soda, no ice cream, no bullshit.
And on this diet, I kind of have to make sure that I control, like even salad dressings.
Like you would think you go to a nice restaurant, you order a salad, and then you're eating it.
You go, okay, this is filled with sugar.
I could taste this dressing filled with sugar.
dom irrera
Well, they don't care.
They want it to be delicious.
They don't care about the health.
joe rogan
Well, they also don't have to put, like, the ingredients...
In the menu.
Right.
Like when you see the menu and it says like balsamic vinaigrette, it doesn't say what's in that balsamic vinaigrette.
It might be just chock full of fucking sugar.
dom irrera
Some of those steaks, I don't know if it's Roost Chris or one of those, I don't want to nail any particular steakhouse, but they broil them in butter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
Like it ain't fucking fat enough to eat a steak in butter.
joe rogan
It's all good for you though.
dom irrera
Well, it's delicious.
joe rogan
It's good for you.
It's good for you.
dom irrera
It's not good for you if you're fucking having a heart problem.
joe rogan
Eh, you got a problem already.
It's not the stakes, Paul.
dom irrera
You're right, Joe.
You've converted me.
joe rogan
It's not.
Dietary cholesterol barely moves the needle on blood lipids.
There's all sorts of problems that lead to people having high cholesterol, sedentary lifestyle.
There's a lot of genetic problems.
But they're finding now that saturated fats and all these things they were blaming on issues with people, that's not necessarily what the problem is.
dom irrera
What's the problem?
joe rogan
There's a host of problems.
dom irrera
Not exercising?
joe rogan
It's a big problem.
It's a big problem.
Huge problem with people.
The overconsumption of certain types of foods, sedentary lifestyles.
Even sitting in a chair all day is a fucking terrible part.
dom irrera
See, I got inspired today because of how bad I was playing pool.
Now I'm going to get back on the table.
joe rogan
You're going to get back on the table.
unidentified
You have a table in your apartment?
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
What the fuck, Dom?
dom irrera
I mean, how lazy do you have to be not to walk?
I mean, I got a treadmill.
I got a bike.
I did the treadmill today for 20 minutes like it's a big deal, but it's better than nothing sitting there like a big fucking bloke with big tits.
joe rogan
The treadmill's great for 20 minutes.
That's good.
If you can do 20 minutes every day, just force yourself to do only 20 minutes every day.
Put a television show on.
dom irrera
That's what I do.
I watch the news.
joe rogan
It's great.
dom irrera
Watch CNN or ESPN. It's great.
joe rogan
Did you ever see how Steve Harvey does his morning show?
Steve Harvey does a fucking morning show sometimes on an elliptical machine.
dom irrera
Really?
joe rogan
He's taking phone calls on a goddamn elliptical machine.
dom irrera
This is a radio show?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Steve Harvey in the morning.
It's hilarious.
Grind and hustle.
Grind and hustle.
That's what he says.
dom irrera
He works a lot.
joe rogan
Keep your head down.
Grind and hustle.
Yeah, he works a lot, man.
dom irrera
It does pay.
It does pay.
joe rogan
The guy works hard.
You can't say anything other than that.
When you're talking about the guy's work ethic, Steve Harvey's constantly doing something.
dom irrera
I don't know many people with your energy.
joe rogan
I'm doing a bunch of fun.
Enjoying things.
Enjoyable things.
Annoying.
That sounded like it was a Freudian slip.
But it's not.
They're all enjoyable, you know?
Podcasts are enjoyable.
UFC's enjoyable.
This is enjoyable.
dom irrera
It's fun to watch you do stand-up now because you really have fun now.
You know, like the difference between you, when I first met you, all of us hopefully evolve and hopefully for the better.
But I see you have that smirk on your face.
I know that you're enjoying it.
joe rogan
It's fun.
dom irrera
You know?
joe rogan
It's fun.
I've been...
I've been enjoying being at the store.
That's a big part of it.
I've been enjoying that.
dom irrera
Isn't it funny how your friends can inspire...
Like, Jim Carrey was in one night.
And I don't know if I told you this.
I ended up getting, like, a little part in his pilot.
Playing the lounge comedian.
Is this thing going on?
joe rogan
When is that thing going to show?
There was a lot of hype behind that.
dom irrera
I don't think it's going to show up for a while.
I think they're casting it still.
And I think they're going to start shooting until July.
joe rogan
Oh, they haven't started shooting yet?
dom irrera
But isn't this funny how the little kid...
No, the little kid in you always comes out like...
When I saw you and Maren in the back, I really wanted to have a good set for the fun of showing off in front of my friends.
Jim was there.
I hadn't seen him actually since Rodney died.
And Jim, you know, I knew him from the comedy store.
And I showed off for him.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm not above admitting that I was fucking showing off.
joe rogan
Well, it's inspiring.
I mean, you can call it showing off, but you want to put on a show for him.
There's nothing wrong with that.
That's one of the cool things about that place is it's a very high level.
dom irrera
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Go there any night.
You're going to see Sebastian.
You'll see Burr.
You'll see you.
Tom Segura's in there now.
His wife is goddamn hilarious, too.
Jesus Christ, she's good.
Yeah, you told me that.
Oh, that's Christina.
dom irrera
That's his wife.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I was there watching her that night before I went on.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
You went on right after her.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're making fun of that bit.
How funny is she?
dom irrera
She's very funny.
joe rogan
She's a monster, man.
Their fucking podcast is hilarious, too.
You ever heard their podcast?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
It's called Your Mom's House.
It's really funny, man.
They're really silly.
They're really fun together.
It's like...
It's a great show.
And they're doing it real smart, too.
I was talking to him about it.
We're talking about how many they do a week.
And he's like, we'd like to do one a week because that way we do a lot of living in between shows.
And it's paying off.
They do live shows.
They do live podcasts on the road.
dom irrera
Didn't he work with you sometime?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I met Tom when we were doing the Maxim Real Men of Comedy tour, me, Charlie Murphy, and John Heffron.
And what we did was we went across the country and they would use a local act to warm the show up.
That would be like the first guy.
So the first guy would do like, I don't know, 10 or 15 or something like that.
And that would be the local guy.
And in some places, they didn't use local guys.
They just used guys that somebody liked or somebody thought was good.
They just cast somebody, you know?
I don't remember who the booking agent was that put the tour together, but they did this.
And there were, you know, some good guys, some funny guys.
And then there was Segura.
We were in Phoenix.
We did that theater in the round, the Hollywood theater.
And Segura went out and just killed.
And I was crying laughing.
And he's just ridiculous.
And his jokes are absurd.
He's so good.
He was so good then.
And then we became friends and I started taking him on the road.
dom irrera
Is there anybody at any time in your career that you didn't want to follow?
joe rogan
Yeah, when I was young, for sure, because I didn't understand.
I would think that them doing well meant that I wouldn't do well.
But all that means is that you need to get better.
You need to work on your act.
Everyone wants to protect the state that they're in right now.
If you're in a state that the audience doesn't think is funny, you've got to figure out a way out of that.
You've got to figure out a way out of that with more material, or there's got to be a way.
And you might not find that way tonight, but that's a lesson.
And you've got to take that lesson, and you've got to figure out what went wrong.
Well, one of the things that goes wrong a lot of times, you see someone kill and you get nervous.
Like, shit, I gotta follow that.
You don't instead think, this is awesome, I'm laughing, I'm having fun, the audience is having fun too.
Isn't comedy great?
You know?
That's why I take Joey on the road with me.
Like, I'm doing, like, the Arlington Theater was Tony Hinchcliffe crushed for like 25 minutes, then Joey crushed for like 25 minutes.
Whatever he did.
I don't know how many minutes ago.
dom irrera
That's great that you can enjoy it and still go on.
joe rogan
Well, you can too, you know?
You've always been great, Dom.
You know, when we first met, and I was young, and we were in Montreal together, and then we met at Amsterdam.
I played some pool together.
You were always, from the time I was like, you know, basically just kind of starting out, you've always been like encouraging and cool and fun to hang out with.
And you've always been like a real comics comic.
And there's not a lot of guys, unfortunately, that maintain that sort of camaraderie and friendship with the other people involved in their profession, you know?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dom irrera
Well, I appreciate you saying that.
I mean, I get it back, though.
You know, it's like, I told you Chris DeLeo said one night, he goes, you know what's interesting about you?
He goes, I never think of you as older than us.
I think of you as one of us.
I go, that's all I want.
I just want to be judged on my performance, not that I'm older.
joe rogan
Well, you never stopped growing, either.
You never stopped working, and you never stopped growing, and you never stopped constantly evolving your act.
And you're just as sharp as you've always been, if not sharper.
And because of that, you're always going to be one of us.
For us, all of us, I think, even for you and I, in the early days, there was those guys that came around that the puzzle was too difficult for them to solve for whatever reason, and they never got there.
They never got there, and then they were stuck.
And they would do these sets at the store, and they would do the same material, and you knew the jokes, you knew the punchline, because they had been doing them for 15 years.
And we all knew those guys.
Those were the old guys.
Well, it's unfortunate, but those are the old guys.
It's not being old.
dom irrera
It's not chronological, it's in more of a state, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it's just they're stagnant.
They're stagnant.
Whereas a guy like Carlin, to the very end, was writing new material.
This guy, he died in a hotel.
He was, to the very end, was writing and creating and putting out a new hour every year.
He just kept doing it.
I mean, it doesn't happen, and respected to the end, right?
dom irrera
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Revered to the end.
People would go see him, loving it to the end.
dom irrera
You know who was amazing in that regard was Rodney Dangerfield because he did joke jokes that we would really consider corny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
His fucking character was so overwhelmingly hilarious and brilliant that we all loved him.
We all laughed at him.
We respected him and he never stopped writing.
joe rogan
No.
No, Rodney also was another supporter of comedians.
Like Rodney Dangerfield's specials, the young comedian special that you were on, that Dice was on, that Hicks was on, that Kinison was on.
dom irrera
Schimmel.
joe rogan
Schimmel.
Lenny Clark.
dom irrera
Lenny Clark, Carol Leafer, Barry Sobel.
joe rogan
Yep.
He let the world know about some of the best talent of your era.
dom irrera
Did I ever tell you about the night I auditioned for him?
joe rogan
No.
dom irrera
It was at the Comedy Store.
It was supposed to do 10 minutes each, right?
So Barry Sobel goes on and does 25 minutes.
Then Damon goes on and does 25 minutes.
And I'm fucking furious, right?
So I go up and all I do is I say, what did Damon expect?
And I love Damon, but this is a long time ago.
I go, what did Damon expect to get funny at the 23rd minute?
You know, like it was like all of a sudden he's bombing.
I said, it wasn't happening for you tonight, Damon.
Let it go.
So Rodney comes up to me and goes, you know, kid, you're funny, but all you do is lay into people.
What the fuck?
You got an act or what?
And so then he saw me at the improv and then I got it.
But that was my introduction to Rodney Dangerfield.
joe rogan
It was like, did you get upset at Damon and not upset at Barry Sobel?
dom irrera
No, I was upset at both of them.
Just that Damon happened to be the one right on before me.
joe rogan
Was it going well for him or something?
dom irrera
No, they were really tanking.
And both of them are very effective comedians.
And I was just pissed off because my thing is, you know, it's a 10-minute audition.
Just do it.
Do the best you can and get off.
joe rogan
Right.
dom irrera
But don't keep going because you're not doing well.
Or don't keep going because you're doing well.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's some people that, like, if you audition for the comedy store and they give you one of those five-minute spots or three-minute spot or whatever the hell it is, how many minutes is it?
dom irrera
I think it's three.
joe rogan
When they come see you, though?
dom irrera
Oh, no, this is a special showcase.
This is like ten minutes each.
joe rogan
But I think if you bring somebody in, if someone auditions for the talent coordinator, how many minutes do they do?
dom irrera
I don't know.
joe rogan
Like a pro comes in and they do a set.
They do ten minutes?
dom irrera
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
But whatever it is, if you go over that, they just won't pass you.
dom irrera
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
They just won't.
I mean, like, we don't need this.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, we don't need some person who can't follow instructions.
dom irrera
We have a mutual friend who did that.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
unidentified
Unfortunately...
dom irrera
Yeah, I just respect other people's time, and, you know, like, that whole fucking thing about going on, like, when Eddie Griffin and those guys, and never had a problem with Eddie, but that's, you know...
joe rogan
He would go on for hours.
He would close the place.
He would go on at 9 and stay on till 1 o'clock in the morning.
dom irrera
Like, duh...
joe rogan
And he wasn't even supposed to be, like, on the lineup.
He would just show up.
But that was when he was a huge star, you know?
That place has always been weird with when people are huge stars.
They could just come in.
Like, Damon used to be able to come in anytime he wanted.
And he would go on stage and do 45 minutes or whatever he wanted.
You know, it's like you allowed them, you know, you allowed them that moment.
dom irrera
Well, some people, I mean, my thing is, like, one of the things, if I taught anything to anybody younger than me that was my friend was to Tosh, and it was not to abuse your power or be a jerk off about it.
If you're going to bump somebody, go up to them and say, hi, I'm going to do 10 minutes, are you cool with that?
If they say, I can't, please don't, then wait, you know.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of us have a real problem with it.
We don't like it, and we don't do it, and we haven't done it.
You know, I'm not a big believer in it.
I think it's not that hard to call.
dom irrera
You never bump people.
joe rogan
No.
I don't think it's hard to call.
It's not hard to call in and get on a schedule and just, you know, try to figure it out.
And if you do show up and they ask to put you on, I don't think that's bumping.
Like, if you show up and the club asks you to go on and do a set, you're like, are you sure?
Is it okay?
You know, you don't say, hey, I want to go on after Irera.
Put me up.
Because that's the thing that, like, you know who you used to like to do.
You know that guy.
unidentified
The one that's not really Mexican.
joe rogan
He used to like to show up.
dom irrera
Haven't you heard him enough?
joe rogan
Don't say his name.
He's like Candyman.
But people like to do it as like a power trip.
dom irrera
Exactly.
joe rogan
And they like to do it in front of you.
Like say if they didn't like you, they would go up in front of you.
I'm going to go on after I... Like say if someone was going after you and he didn't like them, he'd go on right after you.
Say, I'm going on next.
And then just go in there and just crush for 40 minutes and do half your shit.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
But that was a different scenario, you know.
It was like a vampire in an artist colony.
dom irrera
Red Band said that he saw somebody do one of my jokes.
joe rogan
Who?
dom irrera
I don't know.
It was like on a TV thing, and the guy hollered out, that's Don Marrera's joke.
joe rogan
Which joke?
dom irrera
I don't know.
He told me he was going to text you with it.
I guess he forgot.
joe rogan
That's unlikely.
dom irrera
I saw a thing last week.
joe rogan
I'm kidding.
Brian forgets everything.
dom irrera
Oh, does he?
joe rogan
He's partying.
He's having a great time.
The kid's squeezing life like an orange.
He's getting the juices out.
Yeah, he smokes a little weed, Dom.
He does.
dom irrera
He does.
All things in moderation, Joseph.
joe rogan
So your Xanax thing, it puts you, you were saying at the beginning of the podcast, it puts you in a level state?
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is there any downside to it?
dom irrera
Yeah, drowsiness.
joe rogan
Drowsiness.
But the drowsiness probably calms you down, makes you maybe a little bit more hilarious.
dom irrera
Yeah, I don't get nervous for the stage.
I don't get nervous for...
I get nervous for just being, you know?
joe rogan
The existential angst of being, or were you worried about mortality, worried about death, or just an unnamed thing?
dom irrera
I'm not hip on it, you know?
I mean, I was writing a stupid joke about...
We have to have a finite number of loads left.
joe rogan
Right.
dom irrera
You know, that we have enough jizz to shoot a load.
And I was thinking, it's kind of sad but interesting.
I wonder how many loads I have left.
joe rogan
Well, it's a matter of how much your body needs.
I would imagine if you spit in a bucket.
Your body would be forced to produce more spit because you're constantly spitting.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like if you decided, okay, today is April, whatever the fuck it is.
13th.
2016. The next 30 years, I'm trying to see how much spit I can do in my spare time.
So I'm going to get a vat.
I'm going to dig a hole in my backyard and have some glass makers.
I'm gonna make this gigantic vat and I'm gonna lift up a lid and I'm gonna spit in it every day and I'm gonna try to fill that glass up before I die.
Can you imagine?
dom irrera
I knew I could get a good answer out of you.
joe rogan
If you did that, if you had the lid of a fucking hot tub, and you lift it up, and there's a seven-foot deep vat that's made out of glass, and you're just chucking loogies in there and closing it up every day, how much spit would you actually be able to create?
jamie vernon
What are you going to do to prevent evaporation?
joe rogan
You would probably create life.
Probably some new fucking organism would grow out of that thing and kill your fucking neighbors.
dom irrera
Joe, who cleans up a bit with spit?
That's how...
I appreciate that.
You took it to a classier level.
joe rogan
Yeah, spit.
Oh, I would say cum.
You could do it with cum, too.
But you wouldn't be able to measure it because hopefully you're cumming in somebody doing it.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
The way I like to do it.
dom irrera
Or in the back of her head.
unidentified
Hey!
joe rogan
It's hard to scrape it off and weigh it exactly.
But if you spit into a vat, you'd have like a control.
You know, you'd have the vat.
You'd have a nice seal, airtight seal, so it's not going to evaporate.
You know what I'm saying?
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
Lift it up, close it down.
dom irrera
Now I'm getting hungry.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, how much cum would be lost in their hair alone?
You would never get an accurate measurement.
You would have to, like, adjust for hair.
Like, okay, how much cum did you wind up scraping off?
Well, I got about a half an ounce, but I think there's another quarter in that hair.
Okay.
You'd have to, like, put an asterisk next to how much cum did he cum today?
dom irrera
I definitely have that thing of how many times left in life.
Even when I was a kid, I remember being four years old, looking in the mirror and going, I can't believe I'm going to die someday, and I'm so fucking cute.
joe rogan
I remember a conversation I had with my stepdad when I was seven.
And it was right when I had lost my religion.
I lost my religion when I was seven.
dom irrera
Seven?
joe rogan
Wow.
No, I went to...
dom irrera
That's the age of reason.
joe rogan
Catholic school.
Catholic school did me in.
I just realized it was bullshit.
And my parents were kind of...
My stepdad was a hippie.
And my parents were kind of becoming hippies.
And my mom was becoming a hippie, you know, hanging out with my stepdad.
But when I asked him, I said, well, if...
You know, if there's no heaven, there's no God, what happens to you when you die?
He's like, probably nothing.
You just aren't here anymore.
I just started crying.
I just started crying.
I remember it.
I was just so scared.
This is a natural instinct.
You don't want it to end.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
We all have it.
And it's part of the management of life is trying to decide which way you allow your brain to go.
Not just today.
But forever, for as long as you're conscious, there's got to be certain roads you don't go down.
And if you do, you have to be able to look at those subjects, whatever those roads are, rationally.
Because if you just want to freak out and sit here and freak out about death, You're not going to enjoy this moment, which you have.
You are alive.
Right now, everyone listening to this is alive.
And this is all you've got.
This is what you've got.
You've got right now.
So when is it going to be over?
It literally does not matter for this moment right now.
For this moment right now, it's hard to do, but you've got to enjoy this.
And it's gonna go away one day, but you don't have to dwell on that.
Just leave that knowledge in your head and enjoy this.
Because what a shame it would be.
thing was temporary and the whole time you couldn't enjoy it because you were worried when was it going to end yeah and there were so many cool aspects of it and so many fun things to do and weird things to see and cool people to meet and fun food to try and books to read and movies to watch and places to visit and you just didn't do it you didn't do it because you were paralyzed by the fear of this thing that you're not even experiencing to the fullest ending and also by the seeking and the reward at the end Yeah.
dom irrera
Like as if this time isn't a reward in itself, you know?
joe rogan
This time is, yeah.
I mean, it takes a long fucking time to cement that into my stupid head.
And that's why, you know, when you say, like, you see me having fun, I am having fun.
I'm having more fun now doing stand-up than I ever have in my life.
dom irrera
I can see that.
joe rogan
It's fun, man.
It's a fun thing.
You know?
And when I approach it like that, it's been more rewarding.
I think my act is better.
I think it's all...
It's just...
And there's so many of us now.
There's so many of us.
dom irrera
When you do that one bit, the closing bit, you are so into it.
It's so fucking funny, but spooky.
But on so many levels, it gets me...
That's why I asked you last night if you had done it for a special yet.
joe rogan
That's going to be the next one.
dom irrera
That's definitely your closer, though.
joe rogan
I can't follow it right now.
But I might be doing it in June.
Trying to figure out when I'm going to do my special.
I'm working it all out right now.
Dom Herrera.
dom irrera
It's Herrera from now on.
unidentified
I'm going to do a Netflix special very soon within the next three or four months.
dom irrera
I should do one.
I haven't done one in a while.
unidentified
Fuck's sake, Dominic!
You're too funny to be sitting on the sidelines as a spectator!
No, you should do one, man.
joe rogan
When was the last time you had someone come out to see you like that?
dom irrera
I don't remember.
joe rogan
When are you doing a headliner set in town?
dom irrera
In town?
joe rogan
Yeah, or anywhere near here.
dom irrera
Oh, the Comedy Magic Club in June.
unidentified
When is that?
joe rogan
In June?
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'll have the Netflix people come out to see you.
dom irrera
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
dom irrera
Cool.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Do you know when in June?
dom irrera
I'm not positive.
I should know the dates.
joe rogan
You should know your fucking dates, Dom.
Luckily, you're on the internet.
dom irrera
The first week, I'm at Kilkenny.
The second week, I'm at...
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
Second week is the 10th and the 11th.
So you'll be in Vegas that weekend?
dom irrera
You'll be in Vegas, and then the next week is pretty sure that's it.
joe rogan
Okay.
dom irrera
It's either that or the weekend before July 4th.
joe rogan
I think I might be home.
Or that might be a UFC. Wow, I feel like that's a UFC. Okay, there's your schedule, lad.
unidentified
Hear you, lad.
joe rogan
Yeah, the July 6th through 12th, Las Vegas, Brad Garrett's Comedy Club.
June, rather, 6th through 12th.
And then right after that, it must be Comedy Magic Club.
dom irrera
Montreal Comedy Festival.
Yeah, I don't know why the Magic Club's not in there.
Isn't that funny to see Perth, Australia, and then Delray Beach, Florida?
It's a big chunk of the earth.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a big swath.
You're cutting a path through this great land of ours.
dom irrera
Yes.
unidentified
You are, with your jokes.
dom irrera
Humor giving.
unidentified
So we're going to wrap this fucker up.
dom irrera
What's that?
joe rogan
We've got to wrap this fucker up soon.
dom irrera
I was just going to say, I had so much fun last night with the girls at the store.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
They have the greatest staff.
The girls and the boys, too.
Let's not be gender-specific, Dom.
dom irrera
Well, we were goofing around with the girls and Jessie Mae.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, she's great.
And the wait staff is great.
Everybody's great.
The management staff is great.
Emily's great.
The people who work there are just great.
It's a great place, man.
It's got a great vibe now.
It's almost a completely different universe.
dom irrera
It is completely different.
joe rogan
It's like it was sick.
dom irrera
There's happiness there now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It was like it was sick and someone came along and gave it medicine and now it's not sick anymore.
Now it's flourishing.
dom irrera
Exactly.
joe rogan
It's a totally different thing.
dom irrera
It was on the ropes for three years.
unidentified
It was.
dom irrera
I didn't think it was going to stay open.
joe rogan
Well, when I came back, when I watched Ari do a special, which if you watched the podcast with Ari and you noticed that I almost cried like a bitch, you'd be correct.
dom irrera
Were you laughing?
joe rogan
No, I almost cried.
Because we were talking about me coming back to the store, and...
Ari's been my friend since he was a doorman.
We were buddies when he was an amateur.
He was just starting out.
And so for me to be on a hiatus from a story, I didn't perform there for seven years.
The main motivating factor was two things.
One, that Adam Egott came to see me at the improv.
And talked to me and told me he's running it now.
And I knew Adam from Phoenix.
That was big.
That was big.
But the biggest one was that Ari was doing his special there.
I'm like, there's no way.
There's no way I was going to miss that.
unidentified
Right.
dom irrera
Well, do you remember me telling you to come back?
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
Because I said to you, I remember exactly the conversation, I said, Joe, that past is over.
We've got a bunch of your friends are over there, and we would love you to come back.
It was like, you know, because they bet on the wrong horse, right?
And that whole thing went down.
joe rogan
Well, there was just so many crazy things going on at that place with the guy who was running it before.
It was out of his mind.
dom irrera
This has nothing to do with the past.
That's why it was so great that you came back.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
You know, everybody loves you there.
Everybody, we have so, you know, it's fun because you don't separate yourself from them.
You know, like we were talking about people's attitudes.
And it's just such a, it's so fun to have you back there.
Like, I know that I'm going to see you once or twice a week there.
You know, before you were at places that I didn't feel like driving to.
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, at the Ice House.
Yeah.
Yeah, I hear you, brother.
I feel the same way, man.
I'm happy.
I'm happy.
But I still like doing the Ice House, too, man.
dom irrera
Oh, no, I'm not putting that down.
joe rogan
I'll try to do a weekend there soon.
dom irrera
I like it, too.
joe rogan
That fucking place is awesome.
This is the greatest time ever for comedy.
This is the greatest spot, too.
If I didn't live in L.A., I'd want to be here.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
I really would.
There's so much good comedy going on here.
dom irrera
There's a lot of good writing going on.
It's competitive, you know?
joe rogan
It's competitive and it's also supportive.
It's supportive.
Way more than it was like 20 years ago.
Like when we first came here, you were here before me, but when I first came here in 94, It just was fucking real shitty.
It wasn't supportive.
No.
Everybody was out for themselves.
It was like tainted also by...
I have this theory and I'm pretty sure there's some validity to it.
I think that the stand-up comedy of the 80s and the 90s that we knew of was also tainted by the television business.
Because everybody was trying to get a TV deal.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
So the guys who came out here, everybody was trying to do showcase sets for executives and for writers, and they were trying to get a set together so they could cash in like Roseanne and get themselves that fat Seinfeld money or that Brett Butler money.
Get that long cash that would come with being the star of a sitcom.
That was the goal.
And so we had this sort of actor-y thing going on in comedy.
And it was weird.
It was weird for a long time.
But when the sitcoms started drying up because of the reality shows, a lot of comics got resentful.
Because even Maren got resentful with me because my show, in his mind, was taking up a slot that could have been filled by comics that were working as writers.
But my point was that comics working as writers are still not even doing stand-up.
It's not taking anything away from the art of stand-up.
It's just a slot on television.
Ultimately, those shows, although brutal and weird in the way that they just sort of decimated the sitcom landscape, a lot of them, there's not even nearly as many sitcoms as there used to be.
You remember how many goddamn sitcoms there were at one point in time on network television?
unidentified
Not even close.
joe rogan
There's a lot of fucking reality shows, a lot of weirdness.
But what that forced everyone to do was to go online and then stand-up right now is just about stand-up again.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
So the goal is now not to get a sitcom, which is still awesome if you're someone like D'Elia, but the goal is instead to get Netflix specials, like Segura.
Segura has no TV to speak of, and he's selling out big-ass theaters.
He's killing it, and it's just from Netflix specials.
So the whole thing changed, from his podcast, from other people's podcasts where you got to know him, and then from Netflix specials.
The whole thing changed.
So that's the goal now.
So I think the level of comedy is really high now because everybody's into comedy again.
There's a lot of guys that are into doing it for the sake of doing it.
Just the fun of going out there and putting on a live show and having a good time.
dom irrera
Yeah, somebody asked me, they go, why do you still do it so much?
I go, because I love it, and I'm trying to improve it.
I go, how much are you going to improve, basically, at your age?
I don't know, but I'm going to try.
I'm not going to fucking give up and go, well, I'll do this bit that I did 20 years ago.
It'll be new to them.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's why, like Delia said, you're not an older guy, you're just a comic.
And I think that applies to everything in life.
If you got a guy who's an old car designer who's resting on his laurels, or a guy who's an old author who's writing shitty books and resting on the books that he wrote 20, 30 years ago, he's not going to be as interesting.
There's no reason to not produce and be creative.
There's no reason to.
You can still do it.
And you'll feel better if you do.
dom irrera
There was a guy, you know him, I don't feel like putting him down.
unidentified
Say it!
dom irrera
Really, you want me to say it?
joe rogan
No, I'm just kidding.
dom irrera
And Leah's on stage.
Oh, that guy.
joe rogan
That fucking guy.
unidentified
Motherfucker.
joe rogan
This other guy.
unidentified
Hey, motherfucker.
dom irrera
Did you ever hear Shay Matash doing Joe Pesci getting blown by Joan Rivers?
That's fucking funny.
joe rogan
She's hilarious.
dom irrera
Yeah, she's working with me in Reno.
joe rogan
Is she?
dom irrera
In May, yeah.
joe rogan
She lives in Vegas.
dom irrera
That's not up there.
That should be up there.
What's that?
She lives in Vegas, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, how come that's on your...
Who does your calendar there?
dom irrera
The guy in Montreal.
joe rogan
Kill him to get his fucking shit together.
dom irrera
What else is there?
The Vegas thing, and then governors, and that's all down the road.
Brokerage.
joe rogan
They should let people know.
What's the guy's name?
Call him out.
dom irrera
No.
Hey.
joe rogan
Get your shit together, you fuck.
dom irrera
It's me, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
dom irrera
You're not getting into him?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you gotta email him.
dom irrera
Gotta let him know.
But, you know, the Twitter thing helps a lot more.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
No, it's amazing.
Facebook's great.
Instagram's great.
dom irrera
Do you know I've never been on Facebook?
joe rogan
Never?
dom irrera
Never.
I hired two girls to help me with that.
joe rogan
They send dick pics to everybody?
dom irrera
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dom irrera
Whose idea was that?
Whose first idea was that?
joe rogan
Me.
unidentified
That's my idea.
dom irrera
You were the dick pic guy?
joe rogan
Uh, no.
Dick pics were probably like Polaroids.
They probably drew them on cave walls.
Probably dudes traced the outline of their dick and threw rocks at women.
Got them to go look at it.
I bet dick pics have been around as long as cameras have been around.
How long did the camera exist before the first dude took a picture of his dick with it?
How long?
A week?
How long was the first dick pic?
I bet the first dick pic was within...
dom irrera
You really expect me to answer that?
joe rogan
I honestly believe that if cameras are in...
If they don't have to be operated by more than one person at the time they're created, I wouldn't give it more than a month before a guy took a picture of his dick.
From the making of the very first camera to taking a photo of his dick, I would say one month.
Because otherwise, how else you got to look at your dick?
You have to use a mirror.
And those mirrors back then were like looking into a pond.
You could barely see what you looked like.
Yeah.
You'll get your reflection in a car mirror, like a car window.
dom irrera
It's a nice thought, Joe.
I'm getting hungry now.
joe rogan
Look at this.
2,500 year old erotic graffiti found in an unlikely setting on the Aegean Island.
Wow.
What's erotic about it?
That's a dick.
Hmm.
The guy's got a weird dick though.
I think he should go to an ancient doctor.
Throwing his balls.
dom irrera
Looks like a grenade.
It's a dick with little squares in it.
joe rogan
His balls look like a grenade.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who says that that's a dick?
That could be a cactus.
dom irrera
Over here.
joe rogan
What's that?
jamie vernon
Archaeologist traces back to the first penis art.
joe rogan
They don't know shit.
That ain't a dick.
If that's a dick, our dicks have evolved.
Imagine if we found out that dicks used to look different.
They've changed.
They've changed shape.
Like we find like a petrified frozen dick from like a million years ago and we go, oh my god.
dom irrera
Dicks have changed.
What would you think it looked like a million years ago?
joe rogan
Well look, foreheads changed, right?
Neanderthals had those giant ass fucking foreheads that looked like a forearm was growing off the top of your brows.
Right?
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
This big, thick thing?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dom irrera
The Neanderthal man.
joe rogan
Their faces were different.
Their build were different.
What if their dicks were different?
dom irrera
That you could actually eat with it?
unidentified
Like...
Put your hands...
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly!
dom irrera
Yeah, push food into your mouth with your cock.
unidentified
Like a fucking trunk!
joe rogan
I was watching an elephant eat bamboo ones.
And the elephant, it's kind of interesting to see.
Like, you know, I don't think I realized until I saw an elephant eat at the zoo how much dexterity they have in that trunk.
But he's stepping on this bamboo and just tearing the leaves off.
Like, really, like, unbelievably powerful.
It just rips them off with, like, no effort at all and bundles it up.
And then he was stuffing it in his mouth.
And I was watching the whole thing play out.
I was like, wow, what an...
Interesting body part that trunk is.
What other animal can feed itself with its nose, wrap its nose around leaves, hold branches down with its feet, and just strip the leaves off, roll it up in a ball with its nose?
dom irrera
Or he can do it.
joe rogan
No, he can't do it anymore.
dom irrera
He's trying to think of an answer to his question for me.
joe rogan
Oh, about looking Jewish?
dom irrera
What is it about me that makes me look Jewish?
I love that.
joe rogan
Ari, have you ever talked to him about his religious past?
dom irrera
No.
joe rogan
When he was a young boy, he lived in Israel, and he spent, a young man I should say, he spent like 12 hours a day reading like ancient Jewish religious texts.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was like in a very religious program.
He was seriously like a dedicated Jew, like to learning Judaism, to learning Hebrew, like seriously dedicated.
Somewhere along the line he just woke up and like, what the fuck am I doing?
Funny shit, man.
dom irrera
It's interesting, isn't it?
Like, you know, they say politics makes strange bedfellows.
Well, so does comedy.
Like, in what regular world would you and him and Joey be friends?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, we'd have to work together or something.
dom irrera
Yeah, you'd have to work.
You wouldn't collide in other places.
joe rogan
Yeah, unless we all had the same hobby.
I know people from different worlds too, like the world of pool, professional pool and pool players that I've known for 20, 30 years.
Those people in that world, I know those people.
But other worlds, you've got to do something they do.
dom irrera
I notice really a lot of the guys of your generation, they're very manly.
When I first started, there was a lot of nebbishy guys who talked about their mother.
It's really changed.
It's become much more masculine.
joe rogan
Like Burr.
Burr's very manly.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But there was always guys like Lenny Clark.
He was real manly.
He's always been really manly.
dom irrera
Well, Lenny Clark, he could be like a bouncer and a comedian.
joe rogan
He's a big man.
Big savage.
Yeah, there's, you know, I think there's just like the doors open to fucking everybody now.
There's all sorts of different shapes.
dom irrera
Well, I was telling, I had a podcast yesterday and the kid was Muslim.
And I said, you know, when I started out, there were no Muslim comedians.
When I started out in 1980, there was nobody I could think of.
joe rogan
Remember when Yakov Smirnoff was like a crazy thing to see?
Yeah.
dom irrera
What a country.
And you know what killed him?
Peristrika.
Once they had Peristrika in Russia, it was the same as here.
joe rogan
You know what?
He's been doing sets at the store, and he's fucking funny.
dom irrera
Good.
joe rogan
He's good, man.
He's a good joke writer.
He writes good jokes.
He's a likable guy.
He's a really nice guy.
And I've seen him many times now over the past few months.
He's a real nice guy.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
dom irrera
Well, he went to Branson to have a career there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he has a theater there, right?
They do dinner shows and shit, and he goes out and does stand-up.
dom irrera
They do like three in the afternoon shows so they can get to bed by six.
joe rogan
He still looks great, too.
Guy's fucking healthy.
Looks good.
Did they do 3 p.m.
shows?
dom irrera
No, I'm kidding.
joe rogan
You might be right.
dom irrera
I might be right.
joe rogan
You might be right.
They might be feeding them fucking boiled carrots and shit.
They could gum all their meals.
That place is weird, isn't it?
dom irrera
You been there?
joe rogan
No.
dom irrera
No, I haven't been there.
joe rogan
I'm not going.
dom irrera
It's like an elephant graveyard.
joe rogan
Well, it's a weird, like, real religious place, right?
dom irrera
Well, I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Isn't it?
Branson, Missouri?
Pull that shit up, Jamie.
Isn't it all super religious?
dom irrera
I think that it was conservative, you know, kind of Midwest.
joe rogan
You don't really get too much conservative without religion.
dom irrera
True.
joe rogan
It's real.
You don't get too much like watch your language, watch your behavior, dress nice, don't say anything inappropriate, don't say anything controversial without religion.
Like you really only get that.
That sort of strict behavioral standards when they're applied to religion.
Like I was telling you about my friend who did the benefit.
His people are all religious.
I'll tell you who he is after this is over.
I just don't want to blow the guy up.
He's a famous guy.
And his people are all really religious.
He's an athlete.
And so...
You know, his idea of what's acceptable and not acceptable involves what language you use, like what words you use, what subjects you talk about.
That almost always comes with religion.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, to be like real buttoned down and super, you know...
dom irrera
Judgmental.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just not allowing anything risque or controversial.
Welcome to Branson.
Let's have some fun.
Jim Stafford show.
What is...
Show me a photo?
What does it say about the actual place, though?
dom irrera
You know, I've never seen even pictures of it.
joe rogan
You couldn't find anything about Branson being religious?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I didn't really look for that episode, I guess.
joe rogan
Oh.
dom irrera
Joe, I'll tell you, I love Vegas.
joe rogan
I do too.
dom irrera
It's funny.
joe rogan
In and out, quick.
dom irrera
We gotta do something there.
unidentified
Kabow!
dom irrera
I want to come see one of your fights or something.
joe rogan
Let me know.
When are you doing gigs?
dom irrera
I'm there in August with the Laugh Factory.
In June, I told you, with Brad Garrett.
joe rogan
Okay.
dom irrera
You have a fight in June?
joe rogan
No.
We'll figure it out.
We'll figure out a good one.
And then we'll do a gig together up there.
dom irrera
Oh, that'd be great.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It should be fun, right?
unidentified
Do a gig together on the Friday and then come to the fights on a Saturday, Dominic.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's some fun times to be had there.
Great restaurants, too.
dom irrera
Oh, man.
The best.
You know what they did?
They went out and bought the best chefs in the world.
joe rogan
Yeah, smart.
When you arrive at the airport, you see these fucking big-ass Gordon Ramsay posters.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And all these other chefs.
dom irrera
I know.
Emerald and...
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
All those famous guys that I've seen on the Anthony Bourdain show and shit.
unidentified
Are they?
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's awesome, man.
You can't get a bad steak there.
One of the major casinos, their steaks are off the charts.
unidentified
Yeah.
dom irrera
When I started there in 86, I went to the Comedy Store.
It was all $1.99 steaks, $0.99 breakfasts.
It was all like shit food for people that just gambled.
Then it's completely changed.
Steve Wynn had a lot to do with it, I think.
He's a visionary.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of those guys that have done a great job that...
The whole area group, like the Cosmopolitan.
dom irrera
Right, right.
joe rogan
And then the MGM has a fantastic steak place.
A craft steak.
dom irrera
I had the really expensive one just to see how much better it was.
A $260.
joe rogan
Kobe beef, like Wagyu.
dom irrera
They massage the cow or the steer.
joe rogan
Yeah, they give it a fatty, fatty diet.
dom irrera
They give them beer.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Crazy.
dom irrera
Yeah.
joe rogan
It tastes good, though.
What is it, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I just got this place called the Sight and Sound Show.
They have all these religious shows there.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that.
jamie vernon
It's one of the biggest places.
joe rogan
Bringing the Bible to Life.
This is one of the big shows in Branson.
A bunch of shitty actors.
dom irrera
Where's your Moses now, see?
jamie vernon
They have a Noah's Ark show, a Moses show.
joe rogan
Oh, I think I need to go to that.
I need to go to that on acid.
That would be awesome, to take a pot brownie, to get just like crippling, scared high, and then go to see this.
It would probably be amazing.
We need to film that for Vice.
Oh.
Oh my god, Shane Smith.
unidentified
I just found something we can do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Go to Branson, and we'll have a guy try to convert us.
jamie vernon
I've thought about going into one of those on Hollywood Boulevard, just letting them, just seeing what they do.
Dynetics?
Yeah, just, they ask all the time when I walk down there, just, hey, take a flyer.
I just want to walk in one time and just see what they do.
joe rogan
They might get you, bro.
jamie vernon
Do you think they'd catch me if I had a microphone on or something?
joe rogan
Uh, yeah, they'll probably frisk you, and then they'll fuck you if they find the mic.
That's what they do.
dom irrera
Dude, they might get you.
joe rogan
They might lose you to Scientology.
Then you might become a mole.
And you come in here and when we talk shit about Tom Cruise, you send a text to these people.
And then they get mad and attack us.
jamie vernon
Maybe it's already happening.
joe rogan
They moved Tom Cruise to some secret hideaway.
Did you hear about this?
Yeah, this is a recent thing.
He moved into L. Ron Hubbard's mansion in England.
He's like fixing it up.
L. Ron Hubbard had an estate from which he prepared for the Thetans to come here from faraway galaxies to reclaim their frozen souls that melted in the volcano, or whatever the fuck the story is.
Shitty-ass writer.
Look at this.
Pull up the title of this.
A sprawling English estate fit for a king of Hollywood.
Tom Cruise set to pull up stakes and move to St. Hill Manor, the former home of founder L. Ron Hubbard at Church of Scientology UK headquarters.
Who out of anybody, who has kept it together in the face of being a part of a fucking wackadoo cult?
Like Tom Cruise.
The fucking guy never answers a question about it.
He's talked about it briefly over the years, and every time it's been a mistake...
But if he just keeps his fucking mouth shut and acts, he acts his little dick off, and he looks amazing.
dom irrera
He's a good actor.
joe rogan
He looks amazing.
He's in his 50s.
He looks like he's 30 years old.
He looks amazing.
And he's a great actor.
That fucking, what is it, the Tomorrow movie?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they're making another one.
joe rogan
Edge of Tomorrow?
Is that what it's called?
That is a very good science fiction movie, and he's excellent in it.
He's fucking good, man.
That's amazing.
If he wasn't in a wacky cult...
If he was just a regular guy, would he be even bigger?
I mean, was he bigger before?
jamie vernon
What's bigger?
joe rogan
Well, I know there was a drop-off after that whole glib thing.
Remember when he was accusing Brooke Shields of making a big mistake by taking psychotropic drugs for depression?
Remember that?
jamie vernon
He had to make that comeback in Tropic Thunder.
There had to have been something.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was the comeback.
Well, it was because he really fucked up.
He got on TV with Matt Lauer, and he did this really weird interview, man, where he talked about the importance of not taking...
Drugs to treat depression and it was fucking strange, man.
It was really strange.
She's like, Matt, Matt, you're being glib.
You're being glib.
But it was so awkward and goofy because you realize like, oh, you don't even know how crazy you are.
Like, you're constantly surrounded by agents, other actors, managers, and people you love.
And people that love you.
So when you're sitting there talking to a guy like Matt Lauer, and you're explaining why Brooke Shields shouldn't take medicine to treat her depression, because you believe that a frozen Thetan was dropped into a volcano by a fucking god of thunder from some universe that was shaped like a thimble or something.
I mean, what?
jamie vernon
Matt Lauer wanted to fight him when he called him glib.
joe rogan
He wanted to take Tom Cruise in a wrestling match when actor called him glib.
Come on.
dom irrera
I think it's arm wrestling.
joe rogan
No.
Is it really?
dom irrera
I think I saw arm wrestling.
jamie vernon
It says wrestling.
joe rogan
A wrestling match?
dom irrera
Oh, it is.
joe rogan
He wanted to wrestle?
jamie vernon
He told that to Andy Cohen, he said...
joe rogan
Might be some gay stuff.
You think some gay stuff there?
Why do you want to wrestle a guy?
I just want to get on top of you and dominate you.
Call me glib?
How about you choke on my glib dick?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
The moment he thought, can I take him in a wrestling match?
Could I tackle him on the set?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Can you imagine how dumb you have to be?
The guy calls you glib and your reaction is you want to attack him?
Like you want to...
I was thinking, can I take him?
Can I take him?
Male posturing, Dom.
It's very dangerous.
dom irrera
I can't imagine doing that to Matt Lauer.
joe rogan
I would love Matt Lauer just tackling someone on a show and just ground and pounding them.
I would love to see that.
Matt Lauer just passes guard, moves to full mount, starts dropping elbows on people.
dom irrera
I don't think of him as a tough guy.
joe rogan
He's definitely not.
dom irrera
I worked with him a lot of times.
He used to be a guy in Philly.
He used to be the news guy in Philly.
joe rogan
Well, he might be a tough guy, but I mean, I just don't think of him as a guy who would assault someone for calling him glib.
You didn't call him a dumb fuck.
Like, listen, you dumb fuck.
You don't know shit about medicine.
I'm a Scientologist, okay, dude?
I know.
Fuck these psychologists.
Scientists.
Scientology's all you need, goddammit, Brooke Shields.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Poor Tom Cruise.
But it's amazing that he has stayed relevant.
I mean, there was that big drop-off after that, but then his talent pulled him through again.
He did a bunch of good movies.
jamie vernon
Maybe it's because he does his own stunts.
So he's just a crazy motherfucker and people like him because of that.
joe rogan
He definitely does.
He does motorcycle stunts.
He does some dangerous shit.
dom irrera
He did the hanging on the plane thing?
joe rogan
You know, all those Mission Impossible movies.
He's done a lot of stuff.
He does a lot of stuff.
He's a bad motherfucker, man.
He's crazy as shit, but he's a bad motherfucker.
You can be both.
dom irrera
Well, he started in Taps, I think it was.
Do you remember that movie?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he's been in a bunch of movies, man.
He was in that movie with Ralph Macchio.
What was that fucking movie?
Were they all, like, greasers and shit?
jamie vernon
Yeah, the, uh...
joe rogan
God damn it.
Outsiders?
Yeah, The Outsiders.
He was great in that.
He was always great.
He's a fucking great actor.
dom irrera
Yeah, he's a great actor.
joe rogan
But I'm telling you, that Edge of Tomorrow movie is badass.
It's one of the best science fiction movies I've seen in a long time.
And I think a lot of the sci-fi geeks might have ignored it a little bit because it's a Tom Cruise movie.
Because I think if it was just some really respected guy that maybe people didn't know about, maybe it would be appreciated more.
I really believe that.
I think that...
Sometimes a guy like that almost hurts a movie that's that good.
You expect him in a blockbuster, like a Mission Impossible, one of those action movies.
Totally makes sense.
But he's so goddamn good in this movie, I don't think people give him the credit that he deserves.
It's a good movie.
If you're into those kind of movies, I love a good sci-fi movie, and that's a great one.
It's one of the best sci-fi movies of the last few decades.
Will you say so, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they're getting ready to start to make another one, supposedly.
They're working on it right now.
unidentified
Maybe they need a Dom Ayrera in this alien movie for a bit of humor.
dom irrera
Oh, Joseph.
For fuck's sake.
joe rogan
So when are you going to Sydney?
Or Australia?
dom irrera
Tomorrow night.
joe rogan
And what's the tour again?
dom irrera
I think I'm doing Sydney Opera House one night.
unidentified
Nice!
dom irrera
I'm doing Sydney in Perth, and I know I have a gig in Newcastle in the daytime, a daytime bar gig, which should be funny.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
Yeah.
On a night, do you have a show somewhere else?
dom irrera
That night?
I don't know.
joe rogan
So you're just going to do it in a day?
dom irrera
I mean, I don't have...
They have my schedule, but I haven't seen it yet.
joe rogan
So how many days are you over there for?
dom irrera
Three weeks.
joe rogan
Three weeks.
Beautiful.
So we'll see you when you get back.
dom irrera
Joe, thank you for having me on.
unidentified
Dominic, any time!
dom irrera
I love you, Joe.
joe rogan
I love you, too, brother.
Alright, folks.
That's it.
That's it for the week.
We'll be back next week with Ben Hoffman, the dude who's now the country music singer in Nashville, stand-up comic.
Yeah, he's going to be here on Monday.
His act is hilarious.
What is it?
Wheeler Walker?
Is that his character's name?
jamie vernon
I didn't even know about that.
joe rogan
You didn't know about that?
We're going to find out.
It's fucking hilarious.
I'll tell you everything.
Alright, goodnight, everybody.
Bye-bye.
unidentified
See you soon.
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