April 18, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| You know what? | ||
| Are we live? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right now we're live? | ||
| Probably cost a shitload of money. | ||
| We're trying to figure, like, Riders on the Storm. | ||
| Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. | ||
| I think that would be the best way to open a podcast ever. | ||
| Too much though, right? | ||
| I'll talk to some people. | ||
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Wheeler, Walker, Jr. Hey, are we on camera? | |
| We're on camera, the whole deal. | ||
| How do I look? | ||
| You look fucking fantastic. | ||
| Let me show some more. | ||
| I found out about you through our mutual friend who turned me on to eatin' pussy and kickin' ass, and I was a fan right away. | ||
| Instantly. | ||
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Thanks, man. | |
| Are we on? | ||
| We're on. | ||
| This is real. | ||
| This is 100% legit. | ||
| Yeah, I love the show, and I'm out here fucking... | ||
| I'm not making this up. | ||
| We bought tickets for this weekend because we were going to do... | ||
| Coachella. | ||
| Too risque, they said. | ||
| The goal was we were going to do it, and they said it was too fucking X-rated, we can't fuck. | ||
| Which was fucking bullshit to me, man. | ||
| You're too risque for Coachella? | ||
| I thought Coachella was all about taking ecstasy. | ||
| That's what I fucking thought. | ||
| You know, it's just, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe that's their excuse, they just don't want me. | ||
| It could have been the nice way of saying... | ||
| Let's just go over the playlist and perhaps we'll see where the hitches might be. | ||
| I think I may be with them. | ||
| Redneck Shit, I don't have any problem with that. | ||
| That's easy. | ||
| That's the name of the album. | ||
| That's easy. | ||
| We're banned from Walmart, by the way. | ||
| Well, that's a plus. | ||
| Beer, Weed, Cooches. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Family Tree, totally fine. | ||
| That's the dirtiest one, though. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Can't fuck you off my mind. | ||
| Things start getting a little edgy. | ||
| Fuck you, bitch. | ||
| That's the ballad. | ||
| Drop a mouth, that's easy. | ||
| Eatin' pussy, kickin' ass, my favorite. | ||
| Fightin' fuckin' fartin'. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| Better off beatin' off. | ||
| Sit on my face and then the coup de gras. | ||
| Which one of you queers is going to suck my dick? | ||
| Hey man, shit happens. | ||
| You go black out and head to a bar? | ||
| Well, the problem is the titles are actually way quicker than the song. | ||
| I mean, here's honestly what happened. | ||
| So I went to my buddy Dave Cobb, he's a producer there. | ||
| I actually met him through your buddy Sturgill. | ||
| Actually, I didn't really meet him, but there's a bunch of articles that said Sturgill introduced me to him, so I'm just going with it. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| It's already a narrative. | ||
| Yeah, it helps. | ||
| And I'd kind of been kicking around Nashville for about 15 years or so and with no success at all. | ||
| I mean, just bullshit. | ||
| And I'd had my ass kicked, my dick in the dirt, as they say. | ||
| And then I was like, fuck it, this is going to be my last record. | ||
| I was like, I'm going to, whatever they call it, drop the mic, put out a really fucking dirty-ass record. | ||
| The record I always wanted to make. | ||
| And not pull any punches. | ||
| I was going to just pay for it myself, own it myself. | ||
| And I had a feeling this was going to get me banned from Nashville. | ||
| And then I'd just leave because I'm fucking broke. | ||
| So we made this fucking dirty record. | ||
| And it's probably about as dirty. | ||
| And it wasn't even like I want to make the dirtiest country record. | ||
| It was just like, what's happened now in Nashville, because it's turned into such fucking bullshit, is... | ||
| Well, money's happened, right? | ||
| Well, what's happened is country radio is no longer country music. | ||
| What is it? | ||
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It's... | |
| And I didn't know this any more than you because I don't listen to that dog shit. | ||
| But I actually heard the best explanation for it the other day. | ||
| Steve Earle, who's a hero of mine, he was on this Chris Shifflett podcast. | ||
| I don't know if you know who he is. | ||
| He's a guitar player for Foo Fighters. | ||
| There's a good podcast where he interviews a country musician. | ||
| He loves country. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| And Steve Earle goes... | ||
| You could hear him. | ||
| He's kind of talking around. | ||
| He goes, country today, you know, mainstream corporate country is... | ||
| He goes, it's rap music for people. | ||
| And he pauses. | ||
| He's like, it's rap music for people. | ||
| And you keep hearing him pause. | ||
| He's like, is he going to say it? | ||
| He goes, it's rap music for people who are scared of black people. | ||
| LAUGHTER And he's not saying as a joke, but I started listening. | ||
| He's absolutely fucking 100% right. | ||
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Did Luke Bryan do like a duet with a rapper? | |
| They all do that. | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| It's like beats from... | ||
| You know, you said you don't some hip-hop and shit. | ||
| This is... | ||
| Jamie's big on the hip-hop. | ||
| Yeah, you like... | ||
| It's beats from... | ||
| But the thing is, here's my thing. | ||
| If you were making... | ||
| Good sounding. | ||
| Like, it's beats from the 80s. | ||
| Really soft. | ||
| Guy with a baseball hat. | ||
| Singing about trucks and beers and dog shit like that. | ||
| The river? | ||
| Gotta go to the river? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's just... | ||
| Have you ever seen that compilation? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| It's a compilation they put on all these different musicians singing the exact same thing. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I've heard a lot of this one compilation of country artists. | ||
| It's just the same song. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| It's a compilation. | ||
| They're all talking about being by the river, your tight blue jeans. | ||
| There's all these different things that they just repeat. | ||
| I mean, it's disgusting, really, is what it is. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Another thing, too, is I listen to N.W.A. I listen to Public Enemy. | ||
| I listen to, you know, Ghetto Boys. | ||
| Like, I don't need to hear white boy rap. | ||
| I'll listen to all kinds of music. | ||
| If I want to listen to rap, I'll listen to fucking rap. | ||
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Right. | |
| So I went in the studio, and I'm like, I want to make some real fucking country music. | ||
| And at the time, I didn't know what had happened. | ||
| You know, I'm in Nashville, but I'm in my house. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck's going on. | ||
| So I... Whenever I write a song, like, my first instinct is just not to censor it, you know? | ||
| Why would you? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I start playing in the studio, and they're like, this guy motherfucker's going... | ||
| I mean, I'm fisting chicks and going, you know, guys blowing each other and uncles, you know... | ||
| Eating pussy and kicking ass had me literally, like, cry and laugh. | ||
| Well, that's probably the cleanest song. | ||
| It's a funny song, though, man. | ||
| It's very funny. | ||
| We were listening to playback... | ||
| And I go, we listen to Fuck You Bitch, which is, I was going to say the hit. | ||
| I've heard that one too, that's a hit. | ||
| That's the hit, if you can call it a hit. | ||
| It took me a second to realize that was also you, because I saw the first one from the Ben Hoffman show. | ||
| Yeah, fuck that dude. | ||
| You don't like Ben Hoffman? | ||
| No, he talked me into doing his fucking... | ||
| He had a show on Comedy Central. | ||
| As the saying goes, I was sick that week, so I didn't get to see it. | ||
| It was fucking cancelled. | ||
| It wasn't funny, and the dude just came off kind of like a cocksucker. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Strong words. | ||
| You guys could be brothers. | ||
| You look exactly alike. | ||
| You look like... | ||
| Real similar. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| But whatever. | ||
| Each to his own. | ||
| Dude, I'm half blind. | ||
| Okay, that's cool. | ||
| I was gonna say, I don't... | ||
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I wear glasses now. | |
| Um... | ||
| So I did that thing, and then, you know, I think that's where maybe Cobb or, you know, because I knew Sturgill back in Kentucky. | ||
| Anyway, the point, I'm all over the place. | ||
| Well, it just started getting around. | ||
| What was interesting to me was it started getting around through no, like, big promotion, just people passing it on. | ||
| Someone would find out about it, they'd send it to this guy, and he would send it to his friends, and that's how I got it. | ||
| It might have been Sturgill to send it to me. | ||
| It's very possible, because what happened was... | ||
| And kind of the main point was I was in the studio, back to what we were talking about, and I'm listening to playback to Fuck You Bitch. | ||
| And I go, man, this is so pretty. | ||
| If I made it clean, you know, like Love You Girl, you know, whatever. | ||
| I go, this could get played on the radio. | ||
| And they look at me like I'm crazy. | ||
| And they go, this ain't getting played on the radio. | ||
| I go, why not? | ||
| They go, because it's real country music, and they don't play that on the radio anymore. | ||
| Then I go, if I can get banned for playing real country, why not just fucking... | ||
| Not censor myself at all and do it fucking x-ray. | ||
| So that's what kind of convinced me just to do it my fucking way, you know? | ||
| So as someone who is a country music artist and is a fan of country music, and we talked about country music before the show started, you've got to be some hope that these guys like Shooter Jennings and Sturgill, there's these new guys that are coming up that are really fucking talented. | ||
| That's the only hope. | ||
| Well, I mean, really, what's happening? | ||
| Here's my thing, and I've gotten a lot of... | ||
| I mean, all the kind of mainstream... | ||
| It's not fucking around. | ||
| I mean, like, Music Row ain't happy that my album... | ||
| It was Grammy week when my album came out, like, eight weeks ago. | ||
| And I out... | ||
| My album debuted at number nine on the Billboard country charts. | ||
| That is hilarious. | ||
| Outsold people who were on the fucking Grammys. | ||
| And I'm just... | ||
| That's from a fucking few... | ||
| And I ain't got no Twitter followers. | ||
| I don't even know how to use that shit. | ||
| Facebook and, you know... | ||
| I signed up for Snapchat hoping to get a bunch of tits, because they said that's where the tits come in. | ||
| Snapchat's where the tits come in. | ||
| Yeah, I've gotten about- Stay off of Snapchat, Jamie. | ||
| I've gotten 25,000 dicks. | ||
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Tits? | |
| No, I got nothing but dicks and nuts, and I've gotten like four of the nastiest tits you've ever seen. | ||
| Well, men are disgusting, so men take chances. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, I appreciate- So if a guy's a gay guy, and you got all these songs about gay guys sucking dicks, they're like, I can get this guy. | ||
| Well, the thing, they're not even doing- These aren't gay guys. | ||
| These are guys who are just like, I love your album, I want to show you my fucking nuts. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And I'm like, I guess I appreciate it, but did someone send me some fucking tits already? | ||
| Yeah, well, I think they're coming today. | ||
| Today, people are going to send you them. | ||
| They're not even going to be theirs. | ||
| You're going to get some fake accounts. | ||
| You're going to get fished. | ||
| What's it called? | ||
| Not fished. | ||
| Catfished? | ||
| Catfished. | ||
| You're going to get catfished. | ||
| If anyone's up for getting catfished, it's old Wheeler Walker Jr. I'll show up with my fucking pants down, ready for it. | ||
| I'll buy anything. | ||
| Well, what's funny about you and this whole thing is that no one had to give you the green light to do this. | ||
| What I love about it is that you decided to take a chance, spend your own money, hire legit musicians, put it together yourself, and you're like, fuck it. | ||
| Either I'm gonna go down in flames, or this is gonna take off. | ||
| And, dude, I hear about you all the time now. | ||
| Like, I don't know if you know what's happening, but there's like this wave of people who are finding out about you across the country. | ||
| The answer is, I didn't know. | ||
| I mean, I put out the album, and then I got a call, like I said, about, you know, that it's on the Billboard. | ||
| I thought it was a fucking joke. | ||
| And then they said, I gotta go on tour. | ||
| And I said, I'm no spring chicken, man. | ||
| I ain't sitting in a fucking van and playing empty clubs. | ||
| And I said, call me back when we got offers. | ||
| And they started getting off, like... | ||
| Can I make my official work? | ||
| Jamie, pull up that email. | ||
| We're doing a tour. | ||
| I'm announcing it right now. | ||
| And I got talked into. | ||
| There's people buying, I guess, they want to buy tickets. | ||
| Nobody would have ever let you do this ten years ago. | ||
| You could have never done this. | ||
| That's so funny because, you know, obviously a thing, you know. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Bam. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Full tour, son. | ||
| I'm not even kidding. | ||
| Some of these is the first time I've seen it. | ||
| Okay, so go to wheelerwalkerjr.com forward slash tour, and all these are on air. | ||
| You're doing some serious places, man. | ||
| You're doing some pretty big theaters. | ||
| So tell me, some of these are like House of Blues. | ||
| Yeah, these are several thousand people. | ||
| House of Blues, I mean, they play everything but the blues, but those are big rooms. | ||
| How the fuck am I going to sell that out? | ||
| I don't know, dude. | ||
| I guess that's what I'm here for. | ||
| I guess that's what you're here for. | ||
| But yeah, you're doing The Independent in San Francisco? | ||
| Is that a good place? | ||
| Yeah, it's a very nice place. | ||
| Yeah, motherfucker. | ||
| You're doing some good spots. | ||
| The Fillmore in Philadelphia? | ||
| That's a great theater. | ||
| Oh, no way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bam, son, look at you. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| How long ago did the album come out? | ||
| Been about eight weeks. | ||
| So, listen, I don't know what the fuck's going on, but here's... | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| I guess... | ||
| So I went in there, like this guy Dave Cobb, who just won the Grammy of the... | ||
| What's it? | ||
| Grammy for Country Producer of the Year. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And he did Sturgill's first two records. | ||
| And I knew Sturgill a little bit back in Kentucky. | ||
| And he introduced me. | ||
| He's like, just give me... | ||
| I was like, I want to own this shit. | ||
| You know, I don't want anyone to own it. | ||
| Because they're going to fuck with it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I just gave him the... | ||
| Like, literally emptied out my bank account. | ||
| Gave Dave the money. | ||
| All these... | ||
| Kind of the best musicians. | ||
| It was actually a lot of shooters... | ||
| The guys from Shooter's First Band, who now are in Nashville. | ||
| So it's like these killer players, who I think are the best players in Nashville, but they're not like Nashville's go-to, you know, not like the guys that these pop dog shit guys go to. | ||
| And it's the guys who played on Sturgill's first record. | ||
| And these guys, Leroy Powell, Chris Powell, Brian Allen, give them a shot. | ||
| Real great musicians. | ||
| Great fucking musicians. | ||
| There's some live versions that they did. | ||
| They did, you can have the Crown live, some radio station thing. | ||
| With just a very small group of them and you get to see like how good the actual talent is. | ||
| Sturgill's got a different band now that again, I mean fuck Sturgill's band now is fucking is killer. | ||
| I mean his music is so hard to pin down. | ||
| It's funny too because you know we had a bit of a we had a falling out recently and I'm you couldn't find a bigger Sturgill fan than me. | ||
| I just listen to his record on the way over here and it's a fucking masterpiece, but he also won't fucking talk to me right now. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| I don't even mind talking about it, right? | ||
| In an interview, I said that he was... | ||
| But this is honestly what I believe. | ||
| I think he is... | ||
| And you're going to laugh when I say it, but I swear this is what I fucking believe. | ||
| I think he's a paid CIA assassin. | ||
| I'll just let that sink in for a second. | ||
| I think he's taking motherfuckers out. | ||
| And I confronted him about it. | ||
| Where did you get this information? | ||
| A YouTube video? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| See, like I said, I knew him back in Kentucky. | ||
| And this fucker goes to the Navy, right? | ||
| Right, that's true. | ||
| He works for the government. | ||
| Imagine being in the Navy, and you look next to you, and some guy just picks up a guitar and starts singing. | ||
| And it's Sturgill Simpson. | ||
| Imagine that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's no fucking way. | ||
| Like, the greatest singer, guitarist, one of the best ones in the world right now. | ||
| Would you agree with that? | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| He's just sitting next to you on a fucking boat. | ||
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Right. | |
| And he decides, you know what? | ||
| I want to leave the Navy. | ||
| Well, he was young. | ||
| But I'm saying, you can't just quit the Navy. | ||
| Well, you do your term, you know? | ||
| He didn't do his term. | ||
| He fucking left. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So he owes the government. | ||
| How long did he go? | ||
| I don't know the fuck. | ||
| Listen, all my facts aren't together. | ||
| I'm gonna lie to you. | ||
| But he leaves... | ||
| Can you do that? | ||
| I thought you... | ||
| That's like you go AWOL. He didn't go AWOL. He's fucked... | ||
| So why is he... | ||
| I'm saying, why is he fucking out? | ||
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Oh. | |
| Well, you should talk to Alex Jones about this. | ||
| Well, no, but I'm telling... | ||
| No, I don't need to talk to him. | ||
| I got the answers. | ||
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Okay. | |
| He leaves, right? | ||
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Right. | |
| Now... | ||
| All of a sudden, out of nowhere, he just puts out the fucking record. | ||
| So if you're in the government, you want to take some fuckers out. | ||
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Right. | |
| Put their dick in the dirt, like I'm saying. | ||
| Take those motherfuckers down. | ||
| What's the best way to do it? | ||
| And this has been done before by some other Hollywood stars. | ||
| You get the best country music artist alive, and you get them to kill people for you. | ||
| Well, yeah, as a front, but who travels the most? | ||
| Country music artist. | ||
| Yeah, and you've got to have him legit, because he's got to go fucking play, right? | ||
| Check out Sturgill's tour. | ||
| Now, here's what I'm going to say right now. | ||
| I know you're laughing at me. | ||
| I see you both laughing at me. | ||
| But this motherfucker has toured Europe fucking ten times. | ||
| He's toured England ten times. | ||
| You ever heard a... | ||
| Who's your favorite country music artist from England? | ||
| They don't listen to fucking country music. | ||
| They do listen to it, though. | ||
| They don't play and listen to it. | ||
| He's going over there fucking killing people. | ||
| But this fucker's gone to... | ||
| How many times... | ||
| A lot. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| You ever met a Japanese guy and you go, who's your favorite country artist? | ||
| They don't go, you know... | ||
| They don't listen to that shit. | ||
| He's over there taking motherfuckers out. | ||
| You go down his tour list and you check it with the papers of enemies of the state who've been taken out. | ||
| That shit fucking lines up. | ||
| Does it? | ||
| I think it... | ||
| I wasn't... | ||
| The specifics, I can't... | ||
| Anyway, I got a little stoned and I thought this was what happened. | ||
| And I should have asked him about it, which is true. | ||
| But... | ||
| So he just started accusing him of being a CIA assassin? | ||
| Well, I should have done it to his face. | ||
| I did it on a couple radio shows. | ||
| And then, and this is probably going to break it open a little bit, but anyway, now he's, he won't, why will he confront me about it? | ||
| Because it's true. | ||
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Right. | |
| And why is this new album all about him, you heard the record. | ||
| It's just him talking to his son. | ||
| Because he's seeing shit at night. | ||
| He's seeing the shit. | ||
| Why do you write an album about this serious talk to your child? | ||
| Because you've seen shit go down. | ||
| You've seen motherfuckers Maybe he just loves his kid. | ||
| No one does that. | ||
| No, that's not a reason to make a record. | ||
| He's telling his kids, warning him, don't do what I did. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You know, and he's a hired government assassin, and I'm almost positive about this. | ||
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Do you worry that he's going to take you out? | |
| I lost a friend for it, but I'm also getting the truth out there. | ||
| What? | ||
| Don't you worry he's going to take you out for exposing him? | ||
| That's why I'm talking about it, because now they know if he takes me out. | ||
| Well, then my story will be true. | ||
| That's what that guy thought in Russia. | ||
| Remember that dude in Russia that was talking shit about Putin? | ||
| He was like a political rival to Putin. | ||
| And he thought because he was so public, they'd never take him out. | ||
| They shot him with his girlfriend. | ||
| While he's with his girlfriend, they shot him in front of a government building. | ||
| That doesn't help my fucking anxiety over the story. | ||
| Yeah, they'll just get you, dude. | ||
| Especially if you go to Russia. | ||
| Don't tour Russia. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| Again, my facts aren't like 100% together, but from what I've seen, why wouldn't he talk to me about it then? | ||
| What would he say? | ||
| Well, you know, people get testy when you call them killers. | ||
| They get, you know, they feel bad. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I mean, whatever. | ||
| I think I'm onto something, but whatever. | ||
| Anyway, that's the thing about country music. | ||
| You lose some friends. | ||
| But him taking apart that I think he's a hired government killer, take that away. | ||
| Okay, let's take that away. | ||
| Take that away for the moment. | ||
| But what you're saying about those guys like Sturgill, it's bringing real country. | ||
| It's actual country music. | ||
| He didn't play on the radio either. | ||
| Jason Isbell, too. | ||
| That guy, man. | ||
| I've been listening to a lot of his shit lately. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| He's fucking great. | ||
| Such a good writer, too. | ||
| That's the guy, Dave, who did his records. | ||
| Did it, too. | ||
| There's a lot of great stuff coming out right now. | ||
| See, this is the thing, though. | ||
| It seems that music producers are a lot like television producers. | ||
| In that, what they want to do is sell the most shit. | ||
| And some of these people, they're not necessarily... | ||
| It's not that they're not artists. | ||
| They're definitely artists. | ||
| They're creating music, but they're creating music that they specifically want to sell a lot. | ||
| They want it to hit with people. | ||
| It's almost like They want to figure out how to press those buttons right. | ||
| They want to put it in a nice, juicy formula where they can press those buttons right, and they'll sell a lot of units. | ||
| But a guy like Sturgill or a guy like Shooter Jennings, these guys are not doing that. | ||
| What they're doing is expressing themselves. | ||
| And then you get to find out who they actually are. | ||
| And it's so much more interesting than the same canned bullshit. | ||
| And the same canned bullshit's fine sometimes. | ||
| I mean, sometimes I like listening to some stupid pop music song. | ||
| Just for the fuck of it, who cares? | ||
| It's not the worst thing in the world. | ||
| I think that's fine too, but my actual, my even bigger, not even bigger issue, but speaking, like, I like fucking pop music just like you, but the country pop is fucking 20, is 30 years, is, they're trying, I don't mind, like, Sturgill's a good example of someone who's taken Country and moving it forward. | ||
| These guys aren't, they're adding beats from like the 80s and they're going backwards. | ||
| You know, they're trying, I know people who go into studios of major country artists with one of those fucking clicker things and making sure it's the right, it's not made up, making sure it's the right beats per minute. | ||
| So slow it down, speed up to make sure we get on the radio. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So My goal with my record, isn't that fucking crazy? | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Imagine someone coming in here with one of those clickers that speeded up or slowed down your podcast. | ||
| You'd fucking kick them out of the room. | ||
| Well, we've talked about this a hundred times. | ||
| If we actually had a network or a producer or an executive behind the show, it would have never worked. | ||
| No one would have never let us do any of this stuff. | ||
| I would have had arguments with people every day about some of the things we say. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And that's why the podcast is so great and so big. | ||
| And a lot of these podcasts, you know, it's... | ||
| It's the natural reaction when, like, you know, radio turns to shit. | ||
| Podcasts had to happen because people were sick of bullshit radio. | ||
| And the same thing with country. | ||
| Basically, my goal was, I gave them cash. | ||
| I said, no one's touching this. | ||
| And I said, I'm going to make the best country record of the year, and I'm going to make it completely unplayable. | ||
| I don't want it to be able to be played anywhere. | ||
| So when you're making an album like that, you're literally only listening... | ||
| You're not thinking outside the room you're recording in because the assumption was nobody was going to fucking hear it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So when you make an album that you assume nobody's going to hear... | ||
| Some interesting shit kind of happened. | ||
| Yeah, it got fucking dirty. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| I mean, it went fucking x-rated. | ||
| But it's fun, man. | ||
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It's fun. | |
| And what you said was true, too. | ||
| Like, 20 years ago, 15, 10 years ago, this would have to be sold in the back of a nudie bag. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's on iTunes, it's on Amazon... | ||
| It's not, like I said, it's not Walmart. | ||
| You had to give it to people and they would have had to start talking about it. | ||
| And then there was a few, weren't there a few like dirty albums where guys would sing dirty songs back in the day? | ||
| Yeah, David Allen Coe is the most famous. | ||
| I actually opened up two shows for David Allen Coe. | ||
| And he's dirty? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| He's a legit country artist. | ||
| And this is actually a real story. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| Shel Silverstein was a... | ||
| The writer. | ||
| A country... | ||
| You know, the kids' children's book writer, but he also wrote country music. | ||
| He wrote Boy Named Sue for Johnny Cash. | ||
| Somebody told me that. | ||
| That's true? | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
|
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Holy shit. | |
| He's recorded here and there. | ||
| So David Allen Coe was playing these really dirty... | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| These really dirty songs for Shel Silverstein. | ||
| And he goes... | ||
| You gotta record this shit. | ||
| And, you know, I got a record label. | ||
| I can't, you know, I can't. | ||
| This is the 70s. | ||
| I can't record. | ||
| I mean, we're talking shit I would. | ||
| I mean, like, I consider myself an equal opportunity offender. | ||
| And I'm a David Allen Co. | ||
|
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fan. | |
| I mean, no disrespect. | ||
| But he's, you know, 70s. | ||
| And I don't think he's a racist because it comes up a lot. | ||
| But he uses the N word. | ||
| You know, it gives crazy shit. | ||
| But he recorded it, obviously, off the radar. | ||
| It was sold in the back of Biker Mags. | ||
| And those albums, they got to me in Kentucky. | ||
| They'd get around, but it was a different machine behind it. | ||
| Well, do you remember the Jerky Boys? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You remember there was a cassette that you would get from people? | ||
| That's how we all got the Jerky Boys. | ||
| I remember getting that in Kentucky. | ||
| Just like, you gotta hear this. | ||
| Because we all used to do prank calls. | ||
| Like, you gotta hear this shit. | ||
| I think those guys did that shit all on their own and put the cassette out all on their own. | ||
| Didn't they do a movie? | ||
| It probably went more mainstream. | ||
| It went south there. | ||
| But... | ||
| But what you're saying is totally right. | ||
| And now you've got word of mouth times of... | ||
| That's how you end up on the Billboard charts is when you've got word of mouth plus the internet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is, instead of telling ten friends, you're actually telling a thousand friends. | ||
| And we're out selling, you know... | ||
| My album came out the same week as a new Winona Judd record. | ||
| And I sold more copies. | ||
| And I'm from Kentucky, and I got nothing against the Judds. | ||
| By the way, I tell you, I got in a Twitter fight with Winona. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| For real? | ||
| Which one's the actress? | ||
| That's her sister, Ashley. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Winona looks like two Ashleys put together. | ||
| Oh, rude. | ||
| Yeah, that's not nice of me to say. | ||
| I don't like these L.A. women, I should say that. | ||
| You like them thick? | ||
| Yeah, I like them big. | ||
| I like them a little thick. | ||
| Yeah, I don't like these girls too skinny. | ||
| It's like the old days, you know? | ||
| If you saw a girl that's skinny... | ||
| It's not healthy. | ||
| Yeah, but it was a sign of, like those fat kings in the old days, you know, that let you know that they had fucking money. | ||
| When I see a girl that's skinny, I think they're just using me for food. | ||
| I wonder if women think that way. | ||
| They see a guy who's real thin. | ||
| Like, do they want a guy with a gut, secretly? | ||
| They don't want to talk about it? | ||
| Well, according to what I've seen in L.A., yeah. | ||
| Just eat what he wants. | ||
| I mean, these girls look hungry. | ||
| There's a lot of hungry girls in LA. They are hungry. | ||
| Well, they've been told that they have to be a fucking coat rack in order to be famous. | ||
| But guys don't like them. | ||
| Well, not only that, man. | ||
| Watch television in other companies. | ||
| Like, watch a television show in Columbia. | ||
| All the girls have these big, thick-ass legs and big asses and big tits. | ||
| They don't look anything like American women. | ||
| And that's what fucking we whack off to. | ||
| Big sir. | ||
| Like, I've never googled skinny chicks on my fucking... | ||
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This is not healthy. | |
| I hate to bring it back to me, but I always do. | ||
| Please do. | ||
| But it goes to what we're talking about. | ||
| Doing everything the opposite way. | ||
| So a lot of these albums nowadays, they'll do a free stream the week before it comes out on NPR or Rolling Stone or wherever it was. | ||
| And no one would play my shit. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So I go, let's premiere the record on RedTube. | ||
| No, which one was it? | ||
| Like a porn site? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pornhub was the one I did. | ||
| Pornhub. | ||
| I go Pornhub. | ||
| I go, let's stream that album for free for the first week on Pornhub. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| I think maybe... | ||
| Listen, don't get me wrong. | ||
| Most people who went to Pornhub that week weren't looking to hear a country music record. | ||
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Right. | |
| But still, you get 1% of that... | ||
| They were there to whack off. | ||
| We're done whacking off. | ||
| Listen to a good fucking record. | ||
| They had ads for my record. | ||
| No one's re... | ||
| It's like... | ||
| They basically said to me, like, let's just try it out and see what happens. | ||
| And they were totally fucking cool about it. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| When you're looking for... | ||
| They're talking about NPR's app. | ||
| What's that, 10,000 people? | ||
| How'd you like to reach every fucking man on earth who whacks off? | ||
| Yeah, that sounds interesting to me. | ||
| That sounds like an audience I'd like to get in with. | ||
| Do you ever look at ads when you whack off, though? | ||
| I don't even know what they are. | ||
| Here's my theory. | ||
| I don't even notice them. | ||
| I go full screen immediately. | ||
| No, my theory, though, is when my face is up there and you're wack, if you jizz right when you see my face, you ain't forgetting that face for the rest of your fucking life. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| You have a very distinct look, and then if you, like, went to, like, a video that you really enjoyed, and then your face was off to the side of it, it could get confusing. | ||
| Well, yeah, it clicked right to the fucking record. | ||
| Yeah, that's like some Manchurian candidate type shit. | ||
| Yeah, that's how I'm thinking. | ||
| I'm thinking Sturgill-like here. | ||
| Dude, I see what you're saying. | ||
| Like, you just get in their head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder, like, what are the real raw numbers? | ||
| Like, how many people jerk off to those porn sites? | ||
| Well, I mean, they told me that it was like the... | ||
| It has to be insane. | ||
| It was hundreds of... | ||
| No, it was literally hundreds of millions of people. | ||
| Well, they're like, you know... | ||
| Isn't that fucking crazy? | ||
| What's crazy is it's in the dark. | ||
| If there was any other fucking website that had hundreds of millions of hits, we'd be talking about it all the time. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, that's the thing. | ||
| They gave me their numbers and they were just like, they weren't even that, because they know the numbers, so to them it's not a big deal. | ||
| Do you know how crazy that is? | ||
| Compare yourself to other sites. | ||
| What's it like compared to Craigslist was the only thing I said. | ||
| They go, oh, we're bigger than Craigslist. | ||
| I go, what about CNN? We're bigger than CNN. They're bigger than all those guys combined. | ||
| Why the fuck am I the only one thinking to fucking put ads on Pornhub? | ||
| And they go, because the corporations won't... | ||
| This is back to me paying for it and owning it myself. | ||
| I go, I can do whatever... | ||
| We've asked the movie studios, we've asked the record companies, they won't fucking put ads on our fucking sites. | ||
| And I go, I'll fucking do it. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| And they go, who do you have to talk to to do it? | ||
| And I go... | ||
| You're talking to the fucking guy. | ||
| You don't have people. | ||
| That's the whole love, the whole great thing about doing this. | ||
| Let's test it out. | ||
| But you must have people swooping in on you now. | ||
| Because what we were talking about earlier, that Nashville, right now, I don't want to say it like I'm a fucking investigator. | ||
| I've been studying Nashville. | ||
| Here's my conclusion. | ||
| I'll bet you know the big picture, though. | ||
| It's money. | ||
| It's just like television shows. | ||
| If you want to watch those terrible two and a half men style television shows, why do you think they're making those things? | ||
| Because people are buying them. | ||
| They're gobbling them up. | ||
| There's a certain frequency that you can hit when you make like really dull, bland stuff and people like that. | ||
| There's a lot of people that like that. | ||
| So they know how to do it and they bang it out. | ||
| And I think that's what's happening with producers, but it's not what the public wants. | ||
| And that's why you're getting these shows like Mad Men or Walking Dead or Game of Thrones. | ||
| You're getting these interesting shows that are so much different than all these formulaic bullshit shows that have been on television forever. | ||
| Because people are changing. | ||
| They have to adapt to the fact that people have too many options now. | ||
| They don't have to just eat your spoon-fed bullshit. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That's just going on with the radio. | ||
| That's like, you know... | ||
| Listen, the girl who dumped me... | ||
| And I'm telling you, she's not a bitch. | ||
| But when she left, in my head, I'm thinking, fuck you. | ||
| As any guy would, fuck you bitch. | ||
| I go, why do I have to cover up that emotion that I felt after the song for some fucking record label? | ||
| So I just sang fuck you bitch. | ||
| Of course, everyone, the studio guys are playing drums like, what the fuck's wrong with this dude? | ||
| How many hits does that video have on YouTube? | ||
| It's something insane. | ||
| No, it's not that. | ||
| I mean, we're still at the very beginnings. | ||
| I mean, what's so crazy is, you know, The amount of records I've sold and these rooms I'm playing, we've still only reached a fret, because, you know... | ||
| You've been out for eight weeks, man. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty early, but there's this band, Florida Georgia Line, who, by the way, just blocked me on Twitter, because I was talking so much shit about him. | ||
| Florida George? | ||
| Florida Georgia Line. | ||
| Florida Georgia Line. | ||
| They should be called Florida George. | ||
| And they're one of the bigger acts in country. | ||
| And listen, I'm sure they're not... | ||
| I heard later they were nice guys after I ripped on them for fucking non-stop for fucking 72 hours. | ||
| But... | ||
| I don't give two fucks about making fun of this bullshit pop country that I talked about before, so I'll fucking rip on... | ||
| Is that pop country? | ||
| They have wall chains. | ||
| I had a wall chain until recently. | ||
| Okay, listen. | ||
| You tell me right now those dudes ain't about to jack each other off. | ||
| They're trying to get some pussy. | ||
| They look good. | ||
| They ain't trying to get no fucking pussy. | ||
| Hold on, go back to that, Jamie. | ||
| That's two guys trying to get pussy? | ||
| The guy over his right shoulder, no. | ||
| That guy's not getting pussy. | ||
| But, in his defense, he might have already gotten some pussy, or he might be in the dick. | ||
| Oh, he's in post-pussy mode. | ||
| Yeah, he could be like, I just nutted so hard today. | ||
| I don't care about fuck. | ||
| I just want to eat some Cheetos and take a nap. | ||
| That's very possible. | ||
| The guy at the right doesn't know what the fuck's going on. | ||
| The guy at the far right with the glasses, with the gray shirt, he's just hoping one day it's all going to make sense. | ||
| He just wants the checks to cash. | ||
| Yeah, he's hoping one day it's all gonna make sense, but right now he's baffled. | ||
| He's like, what is on the radio? | ||
| And here's the thing, if it makes people happy and people like this fucking crap... | ||
| Hey, easy. | ||
| I like their medallions, like the fake soldiers. | ||
| I got nothing against it, but I'm also the only fucking dude in Nashville talking shit about him and Sam Hunt, this guy who fucking raps and, you know... | ||
| Why does that guy have a dog tag on? | ||
| Go back to that, please, Jamie. | ||
| He's got a diamond-encrusted dog tag. | ||
| That should be... | ||
| That's like some Stolen Valor shit. | ||
| I mean, that is the exact opposite of what a fucking dog tag is. | ||
| A dog tag is aluminum and it represents a memory of someone who died in the war. | ||
| This is a dog tag-shaped diamond-encrusted thing. | ||
| This is hilarious. | ||
| Oh, you mean the real dog tags aren't diamond-encrusted? | ||
| Is that what you're trying to say? | ||
| That's what I'm trying to say. | ||
| This is literally like the devil is selling us a band. | ||
| Yeah, but this is the thing. | ||
| This is what they're selling. | ||
| So you wonder why I'm pissing off Music Row. | ||
| Well, here's a reason. | ||
| Because that fucking band has blocked Wheeler Walker Jr. on Twitter. | ||
| Well, it's probably someone handling their shit. | ||
| Well, whatever it is. | ||
| And again, I've heard they're nice enough guys, but there's people writing the music for them. | ||
| There are people producing it for them. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Well, let me just use that message. | ||
| Let me just say in broader terms. | ||
| Listen, the other thing you know is the other reason I think people dig me is because I don't give a fuck if what I'm saying is true or not. | ||
| I just say this shit. | ||
| But the pop country dog shit that's on country radio with four Georgia lines, Sam Hunt, and all this other shit. | ||
| I mean, listen. | ||
| I wish I could listen to some of it. | ||
| I don't know what it sounds like. | ||
| It sounds like what Steve Earle said. | ||
| They're handsome guys. | ||
| They're dreamy. | ||
| I think you're hating. | ||
| Fuck yeah, mate. | ||
| I'm trying to sell records. | ||
| Go back to him, Jamie. | ||
| Look at the one with the gold bullion. | ||
| He's got a gold bullion around his neck. | ||
| Some shit Columbus took over in the Santa Maria. | ||
| Go back to him. | ||
| The original picture that you had, Jamie. | ||
| These guys are beautiful. | ||
| There he goes. | ||
| Look at the gold bullion around his neck. | ||
| Handsome. | ||
| They look like they'd be wonderful to hang out with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you think those two guys know what it's like to have loved and lost? | ||
| Those guys have been down that dirt road, sir. | ||
| They've got their fingers dirty and everything. | ||
| They have hand sanitizer in their back pocket right now. | ||
| No, ain't no girl dumping those dudes with gold-crusted medallions. | ||
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They dump them. | |
| Girls are crazy. | ||
| No way. | ||
| They don't even appreciate what's in front of them. | ||
| They don't even know. | ||
| You want to hear some heartbreak, you listen to me, not these two fucking good-looking dudes. | ||
| Well, for Heartbreak Music, I would say the dude with the red and black striped shirt is not going to give you what you're looking for. | ||
| Yeah, probably not. | ||
| I think it's just the two dudes. | ||
| He wishes he was in The Cure, but they're not taking anybody new. | ||
| You know what's funny? | ||
| I'll bet the two guys in the front, I'll bet they haven't even met the band. | ||
| What if they become my favorite band, though? | ||
| We're talking all this mad shit, but I haven't listened to their music. | ||
| What if we play their music right now, and I'm like, oh my god, I love them. | ||
| Fuck it, I'll see you later. | ||
| I'll leave, I'll leave right here. | ||
| No, play it, can we hear some? | ||
| Well, I gotta tell you... | ||
| Oh, you get in trouble, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, we'll probably get pulled from YouTube, right? | ||
| How do we do this? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| How about this? | ||
| I can play a little bit. | ||
| You can play a little? | ||
| YouTube can't hear it. | ||
| Okay, YouTube. | ||
| Anybody listening to this on YouTube? | ||
| What's the song? | ||
| Just tell us what the song is. | ||
| But the people on the podcast can hear it, right? | ||
| Is that how it goes? | ||
| The first one that popped up is called Confession. | ||
| Jamie might have to do some editing. | ||
| We're gonna get pulled. | ||
| Can't be used in that shit. | ||
| It's called Confession. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Florida Georgia Line. | ||
| Confession. | ||
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Seven million views. | |
| Now, compare that to Sturgill's. | ||
| Just keep playing. | ||
| This guy's keeping it real. | ||
| Now hear that drum or whatever that is? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Uh, that beat. | ||
| Is that the beat machine? | ||
| He's doing the rap. | ||
| Yeah, he's doing rap. | ||
| He's rapping. | ||
| Now you tell me this is country music. | ||
| Honestly. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's pop music. | ||
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It's like a poppy, hip-hoppy... | |
| Yeah, they're doing a lot of hip-hop movements with their hands. | ||
| They're stealing from black people. | ||
| It's cultural appropriation. | ||
| We should end it. | ||
| We should end... | ||
| Listen, white people have never stopped stealing from black people. | ||
| They're not going to stop. | ||
| They're moving into country music. | ||
| Was he right, though? | ||
| It's rap for people who are scared of black people. | ||
| That's 100% rap for people who are scared of black people. | ||
| Catch a tune. | ||
| It probably sold well, obviously. | ||
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It did. | |
| Well, it sold a lot fucking more than me, but like I said, I'm the only one who's... | ||
| And you were saying people coming at me, which has been happening some, but for the most part, they don't want to piss off the real money makers, so they don't want to be associated with that shit. | ||
| It seems like there's a lot of country music that's sort of reinforcing... | ||
| A mindset. | ||
| And it's one of the only music genres that reinforces a mindset. | ||
| And that mindset is, I'm a simple person, I got a nice truck, I got a good dog, I got a woman, but someone broke my heart, or maybe I love you, maybe I die for you. | ||
| There's all these really noble and really iconic country music Themes and iconic country music ideas that get pushed in these, and they just get repeated over and over and over again. | ||
| It's reinforcing the benefits of living in a rural environment. | ||
| It's reinforcing being near nature and rivers and shit like that, but it's also reinforcing being dumb. | ||
| It's reinforcing, like, it's all God. | ||
| You've got to have God involved. | ||
| There's a lot of God involved. | ||
| And there's some of that shit that I listen to where I go, this can't be real. | ||
| I don't think Sergio Simpson is a CIA assassin, but I've listened to some country music songs where I go, okay, this is a fucking cyberplot. | ||
| This is the government is trying to figure out how to get into people's minds and make them dumber. | ||
| Well, the other thing, too, is as a guy from, and I'm with you 100%, it feels like it was made to brainwash us. | ||
| It's a psyops. | ||
| Is that what they call those things? | ||
| The government's just created super popular music that enforces the idea of being stupid. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But also, as a guy from Kentucky, I grew up in Kentucky, most of my family's from Tennessee, and it makes me look like a fucking dumbass, that this is not what the South is. | ||
| I got a lot of really... | ||
| All my friends are from the South. | ||
| Yeah, the South's great, man. | ||
| I love performing in the South. | ||
| It's the fucking greatest, but you see this, and that's what... | ||
| Not only is it cultural appropriation, it's reinforcing stereotypes. | ||
| So I'm going in there and making some real... | ||
| I'd actually have less of a problem if they just called that pop music. | ||
| Yeah, it's pop music. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it's pop music with an accent, and that accent is what makes it country. | ||
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Totally. | |
| But it's also, there's very little bragging. | ||
| It's not like hip-hop. | ||
| Hip-hop is a lot about bragging. | ||
| There's a lot of what I'm going to do to you. | ||
| It's safe hip-hop, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of what I'm going to do to you. | ||
| There's a lot of what I own. | ||
| What am I going to do to your girl? | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| I'm together with you forever. | ||
| I'm never going to leave you. | ||
| I appreciate you. | ||
| And they're backstage, you know, fucking... | ||
| Doing blow, banging guys. | ||
| Jacking each other off. | ||
| Just 69 and spinning in a circle. | ||
| That's the tweet that got me blocked, I think. | ||
| Yeah, that'll do it. | ||
| They're probably not. | ||
| They're probably nice guys. | ||
| I heard they were nice guys, but it has nothing... | ||
| And if they are listening, which they're not, but... | ||
| It's a great job. | ||
| I'm sure they're happy. | ||
| All of them doing great, but it's not them personally. | ||
| It's just that machine that Nashville's putting out that I'm so against, and I decided that it pisses me off That it's... | ||
| That country music, which I love so much, and I love... | ||
| But that's not the stuff we've been talking... | ||
| You know, my heroes, Waylon and Willie and... | ||
| Johnny Cash. | ||
| And Johnny Cash and Merle just passed away. | ||
| And like the Leuven Brothers, you know... | ||
| Just passed away. | ||
| The Leuven Brothers are a band... | ||
| Do what this country do I used to love, and they're singing about... | ||
| They have this album, Satan is Real, and it almost looks like a joke, but they're singing... | ||
| But it's like... | ||
| But they're serious? | ||
| But they're serious. | ||
| Satan is real? | ||
| But they're real... | ||
| But they're talking about, you know... | ||
| The struggle of the devil versus—like, that's interesting to me. | ||
| Okay, yeah, I know what you're saying. | ||
| They know—I'm not—you know, I don't—you know, it's hard to sing what I sing and talk about that, but if they're talking about the struggle between the two sides, then maybe I can listen. | ||
| But if you're just talking about this— This is pop music. | ||
| This ain't country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, that's why I decided not to censor myself on the record. | ||
| It's like, if I'm gonna do real country, it ain't gonna get played on country radio no matter what I do. | ||
| Doesn't matter anymore, though, does it? | ||
| I mean, it seems like... | ||
| Did you... | ||
| Please check this, because I'm not sure if it's true. | ||
| Some of the comedy store was saying that CBS is unloading all of its radio properties. | ||
| They are... | ||
| I've heard they're currently exploring options on what to do with their stuff. | ||
| I don't know that it's officially happening. | ||
| Yeah, well, how can... | ||
| Who would be listening to... | ||
| Nobody listens to the radio. | ||
| It sounds like shit. | ||
| It's not nearly as good as a CD or an MP3 in your car, right? | ||
| But how's that HD radio? | ||
| Is that okay? | ||
| I've never heard it. | ||
| But, like, if you... | ||
| This is a radio show. | ||
| What would I be on here for? | ||
| Two and a half minutes? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| And it would be censored. | ||
| You couldn't talk about the record. | ||
| And then we would have to say, traffic brought to you by Petco. | ||
| Do you have a cute little dog or a kitten? | ||
| Go to Petco. | ||
| Get them ground up, murdered animals. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Yeah, we'd have to do those breaks. | ||
| I've done a couple of those, because country radio literally won't have me on. | ||
| So I did a couple of terrestrial, whatever they call it, rock stations, because they were kind of into it. | ||
| So... | ||
| He's got a new album called Redneck Stuff. | ||
| You know, it's like they can't even say that. | ||
| So then people, it doesn't even help me because they go on iTunes, they can't find the name of the record. | ||
| Well, do you remember that CeeLo Green song, Fuck You, that they turned into Forget You, and they kept going. | ||
| You knew, you would hear it somewhere. | ||
| And you would go, you fucking, why did you make a second version of this? | ||
| What did you do? | ||
| Well, that's my thing. | ||
| I've been asked the other thing, which, you know, you're kind of getting to. | ||
| I have been asked many times to make censored versions of these songs. | ||
| And back to me owning it. | ||
| No. | ||
| It ain't happening. | ||
| I can't believe they talked CeeLo into it. | ||
| Well, that's... | ||
| But when you're on a major label and they're paying for all your shit, you know... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You gotta do what you gotta do. | ||
| When you're on tour... | ||
| And that's the other thing where I was talking about, I ain't touring until I got an audience, but someone like him, and he's on tour with a giant band, and the record company's fronting the bill, but he's got to end up paying it back. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Fuck yeah, you're going to put out the censored version. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if you're not, you know, if no giant corporations behind me, like, this is all, you know, this is my label. | ||
| I could take it off the market today if I wanted to. | ||
| I'm not going to, because this is, I'm on a big podcast here, and I want to sell some fucking records. | ||
| But I could. | ||
| Well, I think what's happened with this is a lot. | ||
| There's a lot going on on the internet with people just making stuff and selling stuff. | ||
| Just whatever it is. | ||
| There's people that are doing... | ||
| Louis C.K. is doing that Horace and Pete show. | ||
| What did he say on Stern? | ||
| Did you hear about that? | ||
| Spent all his money making this Horace and Pete show himself when he's selling it on his website. | ||
| Just because he wanted to do it. | ||
| But also he wanted to do it himself. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He wanted to have nobody involved. | ||
| Just make it all himself. | ||
| That's really... | ||
| And same thing with your pocket. | ||
| Isn't that the lesson, really? | ||
| Why not only do things if you're willing to put up your own fucking money? | ||
| Two and a half men... | ||
| You were talking about that kind of shit. | ||
| Well, fuck yeah, I'll make it if I'm... | ||
| If the whole thing's a bust, I lose zero. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If this is a bust, I lose a lot of money. | ||
| You lose money if your podcast goes up, you know? | ||
| It's also, they make it seem so easy. | ||
| Like, if you're going to do a record with some major label, they're going to take care of everything. | ||
| Wheeler, don't you worry about a thing. | ||
| Guys with a big cigar is going to get in the elevator with you, bring you up to the top floor. | ||
| You're going to glad hand a bunch of people. | ||
| We're really behind this record, Wheeler. | ||
| We love you. | ||
| Oh my God, I'm a fan. | ||
| I listened to your stuff in the car. | ||
| I was crying, laughing. | ||
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Ha ha ha ha ha. | |
| When are you performing? | ||
| We'd like to see you when you're coming to town. | ||
| Just total bullshit you. | ||
| You leave, and then another guy goes in and they do the same fucking thing. | ||
| They don't really give a fuck about you. | ||
| They hope that you make some money and they'll kind of pretend. | ||
| I mean, maybe they like you, but most likely they just like you as a product. | ||
| Them liking me or not, like you said, ain't got nothing to do with it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| When they heard the record, and I went to the top of the top of those big record companies, and I sat there, and they were loving it, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| But also, you know, we gotta cut this song, and we gotta take this line out. | ||
| And the second they said that... | ||
| I just sit in the room, fucking deal. | ||
| I took the meetings, I figured it's worth taking. | ||
| I'll listen to them. | ||
| And I will tell you this, and this is a credit to the producer, Dave. | ||
| When he told me how much it cost, and listen, it was pretty much all the money I had, but the amount of money that it cost to make a record in 2016 is not that much fucking money when you look at it. | ||
| To sell your fucking... | ||
| The labels will make it cost a million by charging you all that fucking bullshit and, you know, ordering pizzas every day that you don't want, you know, hiring all these big gun players and shit. | ||
| People are making albums on their fucking computer. | ||
| It doesn't, it don't cost shit. | ||
| You know, I went a little higher, but even that, my jaw dropped when he told me the price. | ||
| It was, and I don't want to say, you know... | ||
| How come? | ||
| Because I don't want people to come to him like, oh, you charged him, so-and-so. | ||
| And also, since then, he's sold millions of records since then, so I'm sure his price is going up. | ||
| I'm not sure if he loved an artist, he'd record them for fucking free. | ||
| But if he's some big label, he'll take whatever money. | ||
| Well, our music producers, in a lot of ways, are a lot like musicians in that they enjoy making good stuff. | ||
| And I know a lot of musicians, they'll do each other's albums. | ||
| They essentially do it for free. | ||
| They go and they'll do a cameo on each other's shit. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I can't say enough. | ||
| I almost feel guilty mentioning him because he's, you know, he does some good shit that's selling a lot. | ||
| I don't want to, you know, talk about him producing this dirty shit, but he did such a fucking amazing job. | ||
| I mean, he's such a music fan that he knows, and he's kind of from the South like me. | ||
| I've noticed that people like that, people like Sturgill, Shooter, we all had the same kind of, music-wise, same kind of upbringing, which was... | ||
| Grew up in the South, country music everywhere. | ||
| You're like, fuck this, I'm not listening to Friends in Low Places or whatever. | ||
| You start listening to Zeppelin, you start listening to rock, and you start going to all this other... | ||
| It's all the exact same thing. | ||
| And then you come back to... | ||
| Waylon didn't become Waylon until he was late 30s at least. | ||
| That's not music for kids, you know? | ||
| There's a reason why I didn't get Waylon when I was 11. And you get older and you listen to it, and you're like, now I fucking get it. | ||
| You come back around to it, and that's what happened to a lot of me and my friends. | ||
| Like, this is... | ||
| As real and as fucking dark and as, you know, As bare bones as any fucking Zeppelin I ever heard. | ||
| I love Zeppelin, too. | ||
| It's the same shit, but that kind of shit is not available anymore. | ||
| It's legit. | ||
| It's legit if it's a rock song. | ||
| The Black Keys are legit. | ||
| There's bands that are just legit. | ||
| You listen to their shit and you just go, wow. | ||
| And then there's stuff that you listen to that even if you enjoy it, you know it's heavily produced and someone created it in a pop factory. | ||
| And it just doesn't hit you the same way. | ||
| And the crazy thing is, too, is like, You listen to someone, like you really got to see, and I hate TV using it, but like, I know Sturgill is just the example we're using. | ||
| You got to see them live because nowadays... | ||
| They can make anybody sound. | ||
| He doesn't use the fucking auto-tune. | ||
| But when you see him live, you go, holy shit, he was just singing on the record. | ||
| Yeah, I could sing. | ||
| I could go sing some auto-tune. | ||
| Yeah, with auto-tune. | ||
| You got the look. | ||
| You got everything you need. | ||
| Do some like Peter Frampton shit. | ||
| Remember what we used to do? | ||
| Do you feel like I do? | ||
| He was like the first guy to use auto-tune, wasn't he? | ||
| Was that auto-tune? | ||
| I think that was a... | ||
| Was it a different thing? | ||
| A vocal, you know, that thing with the guitar. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't think that was a... | ||
|
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The wah-wah-tune. | |
| What was it? | ||
| It's called a talk box. | ||
| A talk box, alright. | ||
| I had a friend who worked, who auto-tuned a major country pop star. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| And he said my voice was fucking better. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| And I said, who looked better, and I didn't. | ||
| I won't tell you the answer. | ||
| You don't get a response. | ||
| Well, I think there's nothing wrong with making those Two and a Half Men shows. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with what we're talking about. | ||
| But as far as, like, what interests me, I'm not interested in those poppy songs. | ||
| It's just, it goes in my head, and my head just starts rejecting it, like, oh, you're eating plastic, get it out of there. | ||
| You know, it's like, you could live for, like, a few days off of Hostess Cupcakes, if you wanted to. | ||
| You could probably live for a month off of Just Hostess Cupcakes. | ||
| I wouldn't recommend it, though. | ||
| Yeah, I would definitely not recommend that. | ||
| I mean, that'd be fucking... | ||
| How long could you live? | ||
| Your brain would probably fucking... | ||
| No protein, no vitamins. | ||
| How long could you live off Hostess cupcakes? | ||
| That's gotta be the equivalent of just going without food, right? | ||
| That would be a really interesting experiment. | ||
| Yeah, they should do that. | ||
| You know what we should do to do that? | ||
| Red Band. | ||
| Red Band would be willing to do that. | ||
| What's that Super Size Me guy? | ||
| He did... | ||
| Oh, he just did fast food. | ||
| He did fast food, but if someone just ate Hostess cupcakes... | ||
| I feel like a lot of people just eat fast food. | ||
| That didn't really count. | ||
| That's normal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, some people... | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| People have criticized that show, that movie, Super Size Me. | ||
| Like, all of his liver damage and all that stuff, they're like, come on. | ||
| Yeah, well, I remember he threw up on day one. | ||
| People go to fast food all the time, they don't fucking barf. | ||
| Wasn't he a vegan or something before that? | ||
| He was super healthy before that. | ||
| He was a vegan chef or something. | ||
| But also, I always get pissed when I see a movie like that, and they're like... | ||
| And in conclusion, fast food is not good for you. | ||
| I'm like, oh, thanks. | ||
| Any more fucking brain busters? | ||
| Well, not only that, they say, don't eat it every day. | ||
| You're not supposed to eat it every day. | ||
| Fast food is supposed to be a guilty thing that you eat when you've got no time to do anything else. | ||
| Like, you want to just pull in the Burger King? | ||
| All right, fuck it, let's do this. | ||
| That's what it's supposed to be. | ||
| Twice a year, you get hung over and you go to fucking... | ||
| Jack in the Box. | ||
| Jack in the Box. | ||
| Fine, it's no big deal. | ||
| The people there aren't, like, thinking they're... | ||
| Slinging health food, you know? | ||
| Yeah, well, they're trying to catch up to that now, though. | ||
| You see, like, McDonald's has salads. | ||
| What? | ||
| Can you imagine how nasty that is? | ||
| Oh, my God, their salad. | ||
| What does it taste like? | ||
| Like Fukushima lettuce? | ||
| What if it was, like, the best salad you've ever had? | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| It is totally possible. | ||
| Like, they're a new sponsor on your fucking show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you ever had any big corporate sponsors on here? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, I prefer to do it the way we're doing it, too. | ||
| Mostly companies that sell things only online. | ||
| Like Squarespace and stuff like that. | ||
| Oh, I think... | ||
| The website development company. | ||
| I've gotten emails from Squarespace. | ||
| I think they do my website. | ||
| Well, you can make your own website on them. | ||
| It's super easy to do. | ||
| But there's a lot of companies that they're using the internet now. | ||
| And using podcasts as sponsors because they don't have to have a store. | ||
| They don't have to have like a retail place. | ||
| They don't have to have a bunch of employees that wear an Ambercrobby and Fitch spray. | ||
| They can just sell stuff online. | ||
| I think someone was telling me at the place that distributes the record that 80 or something more percent of my albums sold have been iTunes and Amazon. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Because people can't find it. | ||
| The stores aren't carrying it. | ||
| And no one can find it. | ||
| And when I was a kid, and when you were a kid, even if word of mouth got to you about this record, you couldn't buy it. | ||
| In Kentucky, I went to the record store. | ||
| I remember someone was telling me about the Velvet Underground. | ||
| I got to go hear the Velvet Underground. | ||
| So I went to this local record store in Lexington. | ||
| And... | ||
| They look it up in the catalog, like, yeah, it'll be four weeks and we'll get it to you. | ||
| It'll be four weeks to hear what this fan sounds like. | ||
| So they had a buy from a catalog? | ||
| Yeah, they had a catalog of every record, because no one in there's buying it, so why would they order it? | ||
| Wow, so you have to order it, and then you just have to buy it and listen to it, because you're not going to hear it anywhere. | ||
| Well, that's what, to me, is the big thing that's changed music. | ||
| Like, I used to, again, I was, you know... | ||
| Even Lexington, which is not that small of a town, you're an island, really. | ||
| So you would get Rolling Stone, you read about, like, the Jesus Lizard. | ||
| I don't know if you remember that band, really hardcore. | ||
| They're really cool. | ||
| And I remember the guy writing about the Jesus Lizard in Rolling Stone said that they're like, this is not a joke. | ||
| These fuckers are fucking crazy. | ||
| And it's the craziest music. | ||
| Whatever they said got me wanting to listen to it. | ||
| Nowadays you read that you don't need the article. | ||
| You just click on the fucking music. | ||
| But I had to wait weeks. | ||
| To fucking hear this shit there's you can't press on the fucking article and yeah, it's like the mystery of it's gone But that being said the positive is that I can actually sell my My record fuck the mystery. | ||
| It's all positives to me. | ||
| Oh, yeah You can sell your record also that like like people start talking about you through Twitter and Facebook and things along those lines And it just spreads across the whole country like that. | ||
| Well, can you imagine even ten years ago or if not more like Like, I'm banned from Walmart. | ||
| Imagine getting that call 10 years ago. | ||
| Devastating. | ||
| Devastating. | ||
| This wasn't even... | ||
| Of course. | ||
| It doesn't even matter. | ||
| Of course you're going to be banned from Walmart. | ||
| It's a badge of honor. | ||
| Yeah, I think they probably... | ||
| It's just like... | ||
| They probably banned 50 other records. | ||
| They probably banned everything. | ||
| They banned so much shit. | ||
| But there's this whole... | ||
| What you were talking about, all this shit they feed you. | ||
| There's... | ||
| And listen, it ain't gonna sell a million fucking copies, but there's a section of, you know, the audience that wants real shit, and there's a section of people who are sick. | ||
| I'm sick of the fucking radio. | ||
| I just want to hear Joe talk to somebody in a fucking conversation. | ||
| Listen, I'm sure you still do radio, promote shows and shit like that. | ||
| I don't do radio anymore. | ||
| You don't? | ||
| You stop? | ||
| I do, like, Kevin and Bean, because they're friends. | ||
| Oh, yeah, I did their cherry thing recently. | ||
| They're awesome. | ||
| Most of the time, I'm not doing that much radio anymore. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
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See... | |
| I just... | ||
| I talk too much already. | ||
| I don't want to talk more. | ||
| Well, that's... | ||
| First of all, I'm jealous, but second of all, it's awesome that you've got a big enough platform that you can... | ||
| You don't have to do it, you know? | ||
| Yeah, it's super fortunate. | ||
| But, I mean, it's not that I didn't enjoy doing some radio, but the problem is, for us, it's in the morning. | ||
| Like, for me, it's always at, like, 6 o'clock in the morning or 7 o'clock in the morning. | ||
| You're preaching to the convertiment. | ||
| Like, I've got to get up. | ||
| I've had to, you know, get up at 7 to do fucking radio. | ||
| This idea that you can only listen to it at a specific time is so fucking stupid. | ||
| Like, you don't have to do that anymore. | ||
| We have a way better way of getting stuff out. | ||
| It's so funny you said that. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| It's like, who are they fooling? | ||
| Like, why? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Why do you think podcasts were going to happen no matter what happened? | ||
| I don't know who fucking started, but it had to happen because people want to listen to what they want to listen to, and when you fucking start up your car again, you want to listen where you left off. | ||
| It takes it right where it left off, and it just syncs up to your car. | ||
| That's not rocket science. | ||
| Not only that, you get it with one press of a button. | ||
| I can go to my podcast. | ||
| I can go to the podcast app on iTunes. | ||
| I look at the podcast. | ||
| I say, oh, Wheeler Walker Jr. Boom. | ||
| I touch it. | ||
| I can do all this at a red light. | ||
| And then my car, the light turns green, I start driving, and I'm listening to you. | ||
| Like that. | ||
| It's just so easy. | ||
| And remember the old days, you'd go, you know, oh, Stern interviewed Chris Rock. | ||
| You missed it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are we leaving? | ||
| How did I miss it? | ||
| That's not the world we live in anymore. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You know, so fucking get with the time. | ||
| So there's a lot of people still clinging on to the old, you know, how things, like you said, people need to watch a show at a certain time or listen to the radio. | ||
| Like, drive time radio. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Who listens to radio on the fucking drive in the morning? | ||
| Well, the first thing that switched it up was Sirius XM. Because when Sirius, when it was XM... You know, and Opie and Anthony were on, and Howard Stern is on, and what they figured out when they were doing this was like, look, we don't have to have any censorship. | ||
| We can just say whatever the fuck we want. | ||
| But they started getting in trouble, too. | ||
| Like, Opie and Anthony got banned off the air once because they brought in a homeless guy, and he started talking about banging Condoleezza Rice. | ||
| Oh, yeah, one of them? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I did Opie and Anthony. | ||
| They were cool. | ||
| One of them, but it's not Opie and Anthony. | ||
| No, now it's Opie and Jimmy. | ||
| Yeah, they were cool, too. | ||
| Anthony's got his own thing now. | ||
| He's got Anthony Kumio Radio. | ||
| But I remember, it was funny, too, because I think you're right about that Sirius XM was a big thing, because I remember when Stern, who I used to listen to, who, by the way, I didn't listen to later, because... | ||
| My hometown didn't have a stern going on. | ||
| But I started listening to him, and I loved him, and I said he's going to satellite radio where he can stay wherever he wants. | ||
| And they're like, well, he's not going to be as funny. | ||
| Half the fun is listening to him trying to talk around him. | ||
| And then you listen, and you go, that's such a fucking... | ||
| It's so much fucking funnier when he's not... | ||
| When he's just saying it. | ||
| That idea that it's more fun to be censored is so stupid. | ||
| But I always love when people prove theories wrong, you know? | ||
| That's a dumb theory, though. | ||
| That's like a big... | ||
| Didn't you hear that all the time? | ||
| I heard that all the fucking time. | ||
| I never heard that. | ||
| I used to hear that about comedy. | ||
| But I was always like, whatever. | ||
| Sam Kinison and Richard Pryor are my all-time favorites. | ||
| Like, how the fuck can you tell me? | ||
| Who's funnier than Richard Pryor? | ||
| Nobody was funnier than Richard Pryor. | ||
| And how could you tell me that beating around the bush would be better than what Pryor was doing? | ||
| You can't. | ||
| You can't even say. | ||
| You have to be quiet. | ||
| Well, maybe it was more in the South, but I kept hearing, you know, now that he's not got, like, the FCC to fight against, and he can, you know, the fun was him trying to get around the censors. | ||
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Nah. | |
| Bullshit. | ||
| And you listen to it, and you go, it's so much fucking better now that you don't. | ||
| Yeah, that's bullshit. | ||
| Just to be free, completely free to express yourself without any worry about a word that's going to get you fined for hundreds of thousands of dollars. | ||
| You've got to remember, he got sued by the FCC, right? | ||
| He owed millions, I think. | ||
| He got taken to task. | ||
| He had to go to court over that shit, and they wound up fining him ungodly amounts of money, and there was nobody out there with him. | ||
| When he was doing that, that's one of the reasons why I'll never criticize that guy. | ||
| He's one of the most important pioneers when it comes to radio. | ||
| If it wasn't for that guy and going out there like that and getting sued and having... | ||
| That was all during the fucking Bush administration, man. | ||
| Those John Ashcroft fucking... | ||
| Yeah, those John Ashcroft fucks, man. | ||
| That guy was scary. | ||
| All these people that were trying... | ||
| There was a lot of religious shit behind it. | ||
| Well, they're shitting their boots over this fucking record, too. | ||
| Oh, well, they would be dying over that record, but he got sued. | ||
| I mean, he actually had to spend real money and real stress. | ||
| Imagine the government trying to take you out. | ||
| All you are is a dirty morning radio guy, and the fucking government's trying to take you out. | ||
| You fucking probably get paranoid and shit, too. | ||
| You should get paranoid. | ||
| You fucking should be paranoid. | ||
| What does it say here, Jamie? | ||
| There are all the different fines he had to pay from 1990 to 2004. Oh my god, this is insane. | ||
| So it says he paid them. | ||
| Some of them got paid. | ||
| This isn't probably the initial fines that they started as either, but I think this is what they got whittled down to. | ||
| Well, let's read them off. | ||
| 1990, he got fined $6,000 from the FCC. 1992, he got fined $105,000 from the FCC. 1992, again, he got fined $600,000. | ||
| 1993 got fined $500,000. | ||
| 1993 got fined $73,000, $37,000, $400,000 in 94,000, $200,000 in 94,000. | ||
| Holy fuck. | ||
| And then it just keeps going on and on and on. | ||
| That'd be the last one right there. | ||
| Yeah, $495,000 in 2004. Two thousand and fucking four! | ||
| Isn't that fucking insane? | ||
| That's during the Bush administration. | ||
| After 9-11, he got fined $495,000. | ||
| Half a million dollars in fines for saying bad words. | ||
| Wasn't even saying bad words. | ||
| He didn't even say bad words. | ||
| He didn't swear. | ||
| That's what was crazy. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Subject matter. | ||
| Talking about farts or piss or shit or something like that. | ||
| It was so crazy. | ||
| It was such a crazy time. | ||
| If I were to say that to someone who didn't know, they would think, oh, you mean the 50s or the 40s? | ||
| This is fucking 2004. And if he didn't go through that, if there wasn't this backlash from the public finding out about it, because everybody I know that heard about it was like, what? | ||
| How are they wasting our fucking money suing him over a radio show that, by the way, has... | ||
| Twenty million people listening to it every morning. | ||
| It's pretty obvious that people are enjoying this radio show, and when they stop enjoying it, it'll go off the air. | ||
| That's what the fucking free market is about. | ||
| But it wasn't about that. | ||
| What it was about is controlling someone. | ||
| Because it wasn't just his dirty shit. | ||
| That's not what concerned them as much as his criticism of the Bush administration, his criticism of political policies, and his willingness to say whatever the fuck he wants. | ||
| He was a dangerous guy. | ||
| He had too much power. | ||
| You think that's what kind of started podcasts? | ||
| No, I don't think that's what started podcasts, but I think that for him, that started the journey eventually to XM. He had to, to Sirius, whatever it was at the time. | ||
| He had to. | ||
| They were fucking with him constantly, all the time. | ||
| I don't think he gets enough credit for that. | ||
| It's insanity, man. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| He's a hero, man. | ||
| In 2004, what he got fined for. | ||
| Talk for sphincterine, a product for maintaining anal and genital hygiene. | ||
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So it's a gag. | |
| That guy, Jack Thompson, was going after him. | ||
| He was doing those things after video games and stuff, too, if you remember. | ||
| Oh, the Tennessee guy? | ||
| Activist and attorney Jack Thompson supplied the FCC with show transcripts. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Listen, that's not what I pay my fucking government officials to do. | ||
| I guarantee you a lot of it was about controlling a powerful guy. | ||
| Because he had talked about running for governor, remember? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but he was going to have to disclose how much money he made, and that's when he decided not to do it. | ||
| I wonder if he would do that now, because now everybody knows he's got hundreds of millions of dollars. | ||
| I wonder if it would even bother him. | ||
| I feel like the people running now, they haven't disclosed shit. | ||
| Well, Trump has. | ||
| Trump says he's worth more than he actually is. | ||
| That's what's hilarious about him. | ||
| I know, but I'm saying, have we seen the actual... | ||
| Well, Bernie Sanders just released his tax returns, and his tax returns said that he made less money last year than Hillary Clinton did for one single speech. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| He made $200,000, and she's made as much as, I think, $290,000 for one speech. | ||
| Maybe even in the threes for one speech. | ||
| I wonder how she negotiates that. | ||
| I'll release my fucking returns. | ||
| How much money I lost. | ||
| How many seats is this? | ||
| There's about 400 seats. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I wound up like, you know, a quarter million bucks. | ||
| What? | ||
| I just told you there's like 400 seats. | ||
| Like, how much are we charging these people? | ||
| We're going to pay you that. | ||
| It's like $225,000, I think. | ||
| I'll take that. | ||
| Pearl Jam fighting over ticket prices, making sure they don't get to be 25 bucks, and now people are paying $250,000 to watch a speech. | ||
| Well, that is obviously just bribery money. | ||
| It's just bizarre that she won't release the transcripts of the bribery money speeches. | ||
| Anytime you don't want to release something, it's always bad. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| That's not good! | ||
| Imagine what she said, you know? | ||
| They're probably sacrificing babies and shit, lighting owls on fire. | ||
| Probably had an effigy. | ||
| Sturgill's probably all over them papers. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| He was probably one of the reasons why she kept her mouth shut. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| If it keeps his albums coming out, I'm all for it. | ||
| Yeah, whatever he's got to do, man. | ||
| There's a lot of people that need to be shot. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's not taking out the good guys. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He's taking out enemies of the state. | ||
| That's what's up, dude. | ||
| He's like a Showtime drama series assassin type guy. | ||
| Oh, maybe they'll make that show. | ||
| Can you imagine if that was a show? | ||
| Sturgill Simpson just running around. | ||
| Do you remember that movie where the guy from the gong show, Chuck Perry? | ||
| Oh, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought that was cool. | ||
| It was kind of crazy. | ||
| I was half out of it watching that movie in a hotel room in Vegas. | ||
| I remember falling asleep. | ||
| I just remember it was... | ||
| But he thought he was worried for the government. | ||
| Yeah, but it was really weird. | ||
| It was like, what is this? | ||
| I remember reading a passage from it, too. | ||
| It's a book. | ||
| And I remember reading the passage going, what is this? | ||
| Is this fake? | ||
| Was he on drugs? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| I never got into it. | ||
| Speaking of that shit, talking about First Amendment freedom fighters, a major hero, and people don't know about it, from Kentucky's own Mr. Larry Flint, He did a lot of... | ||
| I don't think people realize how important... | ||
| There was that movie made out of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't think... | ||
| And people... | ||
| You get laughed at when you say Larry Flint is a hero of yours because you love Hustler. | ||
| And, you know, I love Nick. | ||
| But it's not what I'm talking about. | ||
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No. | |
| Freedom of speech, man. | ||
| He did more for freedom of speech than probably anyone alive right now. | ||
| That... | ||
| You had to be as fucking crazy as... | ||
| He took that shit to the Supreme Court because he was fucking insane. | ||
| And he was rich as fuck? | ||
| And he didn't give... | ||
| Yeah, the whole thing... | ||
| It was a perfect timing, too, because this was before porn hit the internet and the money kind of eroded. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, back then, he was selling those magazines. | ||
| He was rich from selling magazines. | ||
| He was gonna lose everything because of a fucking joke. | ||
| When I was... | ||
| Yeah, he really was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When I first came to LA, I remember seeing that building. | ||
| That Flint Publications building. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's just an enormous, fucking huge office building. | ||
| I've met him briefly. | ||
| I know some of his family members back in Kentucky. | ||
| But yeah, it's an empire. | ||
| But also, I think when he dies, they'll be talking about it. | ||
| They'll be the jokey national news shit. | ||
| But there'll be some really interesting... | ||
| Fucking pieces written about what he actually did because he really he changed everything like this album literally I couldn't make this album without literally I agree and I think that what was going on with him at the same time as what was going on with Howard Stern they were all real similar It was real similar and the government was trying to decide what people could and couldn't do and the people that didn't get defended were the dirty ones Totally. | ||
| The dirty magazine guy, the dirty radio guy. | ||
| For whatever reason, they didn't get defended. | ||
| Where a journalist, if a journalist is getting attacked like that for revealing the truth about something, people would be up in arms. | ||
| The intellectuals would be up in arms. | ||
| But nobody recognized that it's just as dangerous to tell people that they can't jerk off to Hustler as it is to tell a political dissident that he can't speak out. | ||
| And that's what they said at the trial. | ||
| I mean, the Ed Norton guy who played him, he's like... | ||
| This has nothing to do with whether you like Hustle or not. | ||
| It's no different than any free speech trial anywhere. | ||
| But by the way, if you rule against this, that it could lead to people being censored in all different forms, but it took something that crazy to get it to the Supreme Court and someone that fucking crazy. | ||
| It's just too problematic. | ||
| When you tell people what they can and can't talk about, it's too problematic. | ||
| You know, if you censor someone for, especially like sexual stuff, like you censor someone for putting out a magazine where people have sex in it, obviously people have liked that forever. | ||
| You do know what the actual trial was. | ||
| I'll repeat it. | ||
| It was an obscenity trial, right? | ||
| But he did a... | ||
| They had comic pieces in the magazine, and he did a piece where he said that... | ||
| This one I may need help. | ||
| It was Jerry Falwell, I think. | ||
| See if you can find it. | ||
| I'm sure it's online. | ||
| But you said that before I find out, it was... | ||
| I want to get the guy's name right before I fucking... | ||
| Jerry Falwell? | ||
| Larry Flint. | ||
| He was the big guy at the time, right? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Jerry Falwell was the guy that got caught with a hooker, too. | ||
| Wasn't it? | ||
| Or has Jimmy Swaggart? | ||
| I get them all mixed up. | ||
| Jimmy Swagger cried on TV. It was awesome. | ||
| You don't remember that? | ||
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Oh, yeah, I saw that. | |
| I used to watch that shit all the time. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| Because we all knew that he was a crazy fuck. | ||
|
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We knew he was a crazy fraud. | |
| It's Larry Flint and... | ||
| Just Google Larry Flint Supreme Court. | ||
| Anyway, the point was, he said that this preacher... | ||
| Had sex with his mom in an outhouse. | ||
| In an outhouse? | ||
| Yeah, in the magazine. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Like, they had a cartoon of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I went and saw Larry Flint speak, because, like I said, I'm a big fan of his. | ||
| And so, the guy sued him. | ||
| It's Jerry Falwell. | ||
| Okay, that's what I thought. | ||
| So, he said Jerry Falwell had sex with his mom in an outhouse, and there was a cartoon, like a Mad Magazine type cartoon. | ||
| And... | ||
| Sued him for libel. | ||
| He's like, it's obviously a fucking joke. | ||
| Like, I don't think, you know, this is fucking comedy. | ||
| And he sued him, and it went to the fucking Supreme Court. | ||
| And I went and saw Larry Flint talk, and when the lawyer, Larry Flint said, this is when he knew he was going to win the Supreme Court trial. | ||
| When his lawyer repeated what the article said, That his mom had sex, that Jerry Falwell had sex with his mom in an outhouse. | ||
| He saw the judge just giggle for a second. | ||
| And the lawyer stopped him and was like, And that's when he knew he had the trial won, because the whole point is, you laughed when I said it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That this guy fucking his mom in an outhouse, obviously, how are we going to have an argument that's not comedy when all you fuckers just started laughing? | ||
| He said from that point on, he knew he was going to win. | ||
| And it was funny, too, he also said that Jerry Falwell came to him years later, and they became friends. | ||
| And he wanted to go do a speak, because I guess he had, you know, maybe not watched his money, he wanted to go do a speaking tour with Larry Flynn. | ||
| And, uh, He's like, I thought, I just, you know, I want the biggest Supreme Court freedom of speech race ever. | ||
| He said he realized, that's when they kind of, he's like, to Jerry Falwell, too, it's all a show, you know? | ||
| It's all, it was just a, it was just theater to him. | ||
| Like, we can go out and make some money on the road and talk about it. | ||
| We can debate each other. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And Larry Friend's like, fuck you. | ||
| That was, I was, I was. | ||
| I was serious about it. | ||
| It's kind of funny, though. | ||
| I would like to party with Jerry Falwell, find out what goes down, take a couple of drinks with him. | ||
| They did become friends, and another one I have to look, I'm almost positive that when he died, Larry Flint wrote his, maybe for the LA Times, I think Larry Flint wrote his obituary. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But yeah, they became friendlier later, but it's an interesting trial. | ||
| You should definitely check out. | ||
| And the movie sums it up, but you gotta get into the details of it. | ||
| Because what they used to do at Hustler was pretty fucking crazy. | ||
| I mean, besides, you know, really getting in there, looking inside the puss and all that shit. | ||
| They had peeing and shit. | ||
| A lot of people peeing on each other. | ||
| Kind of X-rated Mad Magazine type shit. | ||
| And that was the shit, ironically, that got him in trouble. | ||
| Like, you know, as you know, that it was the sex shit that they were actually pissed about. | ||
| Yeah, but that was what they could catch him on. | ||
| Because they were so preposterous, some of them. | ||
| They were so graphic. | ||
| That was, I guess, yeah, that must have been the one. | ||
| That was the guy who... | ||
| This is the letter he wrote in the LA Times after he died. | ||
| How I Find Myself in Jerry Falwell's Embrace. | ||
| That's Larry Flynn's obituary. | ||
| The article is called The Porn King and the Preacher. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| He had an autobiography called An Unseemly Man. | ||
| He's hilarious! | ||
| Look, look, he sued him for $50 million. | ||
| That's why I went to the Supreme Court. | ||
| He kept losing. | ||
| A case I lost repeatedly, yet eventually won the Supreme Court. | ||
| Wow, I kept losing it? | ||
| Now he's hugging me in front of millions on the Larry King show. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| I wonder how much it cost him to fight those off. | ||
| Because someone's suing you for $50 million. | ||
| If he lost it repeatedly, each one of those things would cost you a shitload of money. | ||
| Luckily, it was the right guy who was crazy enough, like you said, and had the money to fight it. | ||
| Because most people would have just never... | ||
| Wouldn't have fought at once, much less all the way up to the Supreme Court. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's funny, man. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| The whole thing's funny. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the real story, it's one of those things where the real story's crazier than the fucking movie. | ||
| Well, it's crazy that it's such a pivotal moment in free speech history, yet, like you said, it's not something anybody ever talks about, that he actually had to go out there like that. | ||
| I mean, they were saying before, they're saying SNL might not exist if that was, if he hadn't won that case. | ||
| Well, look, if he gives any... | ||
| Or Daily Show or any of that shit, if you can't parody... | ||
| Public figures, SNL can happen. | ||
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Right. | |
| You can't do The Daily Show, you know? | ||
| And we could prove that. | ||
| And here's a way to prove it, it's sort of a roundabout way, but marijuana is still illegal in 2016 because of some bullshit propaganda that was made in the 1930s. | ||
| So that momentum carries on, even though it doesn't make any sense, you could still go to jail today for growing pot. | ||
| So if you think that if Howard Stern didn't have those lawsuits, didn't pay all that money, didn't make this big public outcry, didn't have to go to Sirius Satellite Radio, if all those things didn't happen and they won, what if they shut him down? | ||
| What if they pulled him off the air? | ||
| What if Larry Flint lost and never fought it? | ||
| What if everything buckled down? | ||
| How long would it have taken for the internet to happen? | ||
| How long would it have taken for things like Reddit or 4chan or these fucking uncensored blogs or uncensored YouTube content where you could do whatever you want. | ||
| Vimeo, all that shit, podcasts. | ||
| That ripple from those two guys is like one of the most important ripples for free speech media in 2016. It's one of the most important pivotal moments in the history of free speech. | ||
| And we're talking about that. | ||
| It's amazing, right? | ||
| It's fucking crazy that we're talking about an X-rated record. | ||
| That I own on a podcast that you own. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This wouldn't have been fucking, like, this whole world that we're living in. | ||
| The whole thing wouldn't have happened. | ||
| You wouldn't have been able to do that record, no way. | ||
| No one would have found out about it. | ||
| Here's the bigger, even though I make fun of, like, those Florida Georgia Line guys. | ||
| They're some nice guys. | ||
| They're handsome. | ||
| We have a choice, at least. | ||
| Do you think they shave their pubes? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I think they shave each other's pubes. | ||
| They manscaped the shit out of that box, right? | ||
| Oh, dude, they got the best fucking dude. | ||
| I bet if there's like a little hair even on the head or around the shaft. | ||
| Do you ever get a shaft hair? | ||
| Those are weird. | ||
| I shave those immediately. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| Yeah, it kind of freaks me out. | ||
| I've gotten a couple. | ||
| It freaks me out. | ||
| I don't like a shaft. | ||
| What if it just starts happening? | ||
| Like, I have ear hair now. | ||
| Didn't have ear hair when I was young. | ||
| What if my shaft just starts growing hairs all over it? | ||
| Non-stop. | ||
| Just non-stop. | ||
| Like a wolf man. | ||
| Every time you shave it, it gets fucking hair hair? | ||
| Thicker. | ||
| Yeah, it gets more boar-like. | ||
| What if it happened on the head? | ||
| Oh, that'd be crazy. | ||
| What if that's what girls like? | ||
| Somebody's got dick hair on there. | ||
| Someone. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like some fucking big Russian dude. | ||
| Some Russian bear type character. | ||
| Some dude from like Dagestan or something. | ||
| Some manly man. | ||
| If you've got... | ||
| And I'm being serious here. | ||
| If you've got hair... | ||
| On the head of your dick. | ||
| You call me because I got my second album. | ||
| I'm looking for a cover. | ||
| That'll be it. | ||
| It's called dickhead hair. | ||
| It's gotta happen. | ||
| There's some people out there that are so hairy. | ||
| There's this Russian wrestler, I forget what his name is, but he fights in MMA. We were talking about him on the podcast recently because he's entering into some grappling tournaments. | ||
| Goddammit, what is his name? | ||
| I've only seen him compete on YouTube. | ||
| He's just gorilla strong. | ||
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And he's got hair on the head of his dick? | |
| Everywhere, like a gorilla. | ||
| He's gotta have some... | ||
| Wasn't that a Paul Simon song? | ||
| Hair on the head of his dick? | ||
| I think that was one of his best songs. | ||
| It's catchy as shit, man. | ||
| I mean, you sing around your parents, they yell at you, but it's a good song. | ||
| Oh, that was Diamonds on the Soul of the Shoes. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| I get those two songs mixed up all the fucking time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Totally different song. | ||
| But for sure, there's a guy out there. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Jimmy's going to try to find this guy. | ||
| But, yeah. | ||
| Well, it's weird that we still have hair in weird spots on our body. | ||
| Like that most of the body loses its hair in some strange way, except for the head. | ||
| And other weird spots like the pubes. | ||
| Like, what the fuck is going on with the human body in the first place? | ||
| It's so strange looking. | ||
| I remember reading an article about Iggy Pop back in his old Stooges days. | ||
| Yeah, there's the dude. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| There's the wrestler dude. | ||
| Look at the hair on this motherfucker. | ||
| Georgie Katoev. | ||
| I mean, this guy's mostly a gorilla. | ||
| That dude's mostly a gorilla. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| I ain't messing around. | ||
| Get this on the fucking camera. | ||
| You got some hair, too. | ||
| Look at that picture, though. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| That's a goddamn gorilla. | ||
| This dude's a gorilla. | ||
| And he also has a Spanish bullion around his neck. | ||
| From the Pinta, I believe. | ||
| I think he borrowed it from Florida, Georgia. | ||
| He took it from him. | ||
| Give to me, or I break neck. | ||
| You're talking about hair you need? | ||
| Because I'll never forget the article. | ||
| I was reading about Iggy and the Stooges. | ||
| And Iggy popped some, you know, he was on drugs or whatever, put glitter all over his face. | ||
| And he shaved his eyebrows, put glitter all over his face, and then he went on stage. | ||
| And it was so funny. | ||
| The guitarist goes, and that's when we realized why you had eyebrows. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because he was sweating and all the glitter was getting in his eyes. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh, so he's getting glitter in his eyeball? | ||
| In his eyeball because he thought it would be cool to shave his eyebrows. | ||
| It's like, you don't think about that shit until you get it. | ||
| That must be brutal. | ||
| Glitter in your eyeballs? | ||
| Holy shit, how did he clean that out? | ||
| He's Iggy Pop. | ||
| He's probably still in there. | ||
| Is he still alive? | ||
| Yeah, he's touring right now. | ||
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Is he? | |
| He just made a new record. | ||
| That guy, I'd like to find out what he eats. | ||
| He's got to be on a ketogenic diet. | ||
| He's always super lean. | ||
| You know Josh Ami from Queens of the Stone Age? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He just did his new record. | ||
| With Iggy Pop? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| See, they're a great example. | ||
| Queens of the Stone Age are a great example of a band that's really hard to pin down. | ||
| Like, say, what are they like? | ||
| You'd go, ooh, man, I don't know. | ||
| They've got their own thing going on, man. | ||
| There's certain Queens of the Stone Age songs where you listen to like a part of it and you go, oh, that's Queens of the Stone Age. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You just know. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| There they are, yeah. | ||
| Bam. | ||
| Iggy Pop's still looking good. | ||
| The guy's always shredded. | ||
| I always wonder, like, is that just from running around on stage? | ||
| Does he exercise? | ||
| I saw him once at the Stooges reunion. | ||
| I've never seen a guy give it. | ||
| He was better than Jagger, I thought. | ||
| I've never seen a guy give it his all. | ||
| He still fucking rocks. | ||
| Well, you rarely hear people talk about him. | ||
| Look at his skin. | ||
| He's like a leather-bound book that they find in a cabin to summon demons. | ||
| At that age, still giving the middle finger. | ||
| Well, that's important. | ||
| Never give up on the middle finger. | ||
| He never gets that old enough. | ||
| How old is he? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's gotta be... | ||
| But he's in that ageless area where he's just... | ||
| He did a lot of shit with Bowie, and he's got a... | ||
| How old was Bowie? | ||
| Mid-60s? | ||
| What does it say, Jamie? | ||
| Doesn't say? | ||
| Does it say his birth? | ||
|
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Uh-uh. | |
| What? | ||
|
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No. | |
| Come on, son. | ||
| Go to Wikipedia. | ||
| It says his fucking birth. | ||
| What does it say over there? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| 1968. What, are you trying to pretend he's a mystery? | ||
| Usually it pops right up on Google when it just says it. | ||
| But you just can't assume that it's not out there. | ||
| He's almost 70, right? | ||
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Yeah, he's almost 70. That's a, you know, people still rocking out almost fucking 70. Yeah, he's an animal. | |
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, it was cool. | ||
| Like you were saying, you know, Queen of Stonehenge does whatever the fuck they want. | ||
| I'm sure there was no one who was like, there's a bunch of money for you. | ||
| Go produce and tour. | ||
| But they're on a label, right? | ||
| Aren't they? | ||
| No, well, they're on an indie label. | ||
| Oh, are they? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder how much influence an indie label has on them. | ||
| None, because they can do whatever, you know. | ||
| Well, that's the future. | ||
| We'll see, yeah. | ||
| You don't need people anymore. | ||
| And it's also the people that were there, they didn't exactly serve the best interests of the work. | ||
| You know, the people that are making these pop songs. | ||
| Like, you know, they put together a band like Menudo or something like that. | ||
| Why Menudo? | ||
| Where did I come up with that? | ||
| I kind of like that. | ||
| Who remembers them? | ||
| Do you remember Menudo? | ||
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I remember them. | |
| Milli Vanilli or something like that. | ||
| Just a perfect example of just a creation. | ||
| I mean, they weren't even singing the real songs, right? | ||
| That's just a creation. | ||
| Get two handsome black dudes. | ||
| And they were also the only ones who got busted. | ||
| There's millions of those. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| There's a lot of people that got busted that didn't, that did the exact same thing as they did? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| How did they get busted? | ||
| They got busted because one of the guys, um... | ||
| Found Jesus? | ||
| Something like that, I think, but he came clean. | ||
| He said, I can't go up there and perform these songs anymore. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And he just came clean. | ||
| He must be like, I hate pussy and money. | ||
| I'm pretty sure during one of their concerts, their playback skipped. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, that happened to What's-Her-Face on Saturday Night Live, too. | ||
| Yeah, I'm looking it up right now. | ||
| I think there's video of it. | ||
| But that shit happens all... | ||
| Who's the girl who skipped on SNL? The girl who's the sister. | ||
| Yeah, the girl with the giant tits. | ||
| Yeah, so they're trying to say... | ||
| That's how my brain works. | ||
| By the way, that's how your brain works? | ||
| You know what I was talking about, right? | ||
| In a second. | ||
| Jessica Simpson, right? | ||
| You're giving me a name, I wouldn't have known it. | ||
| Boy, what a body that girl's got. | ||
| Good lord. | ||
| That's a perfect example of why someone should stay thick. | ||
| Have you seen her lately? | ||
| Is she married? | ||
| Yeah, she's married to some football player dude. | ||
| No disrespect, sir. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Why the fuck I make this record if she's already married? | ||
| There's other ones like that. | ||
| That's good stock. | ||
| That's good southern stock. | ||
| She's probably from Canada. | ||
| Where is she from? | ||
| Texas? | ||
| That's what I'm saying, bro! | ||
| I knew! | ||
| Shit! | ||
| Hey, I think I'm doing some... | ||
| Am I doing dates in... | ||
| There were some Texas dates up there. | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| How dare you not? | ||
| Well, we're gonna do the... | ||
| I do know we're not doing Southeast until... | ||
| They want me to wait till... | ||
| There'll be Southeast dates up there. | ||
| How come you're waiting? | ||
| They want me to wait... | ||
| That one, actually, I listened to people on. | ||
| They said, wait till school's back in. | ||
| Because a lot of younger... | ||
| You know, all those SEC schools, you know... | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Kentucky, Alabama, Georgia. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Right, you gotta be in their town. | ||
| And also, I didn't want to do too many dates at one time because my fucking voice will go. | ||
| And also, I just don't... | ||
| I'm not doing those giant... | ||
| I want to go for a long weekend and come home. | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
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Right. | |
| I'm too old. | ||
| I can't do those fucking long tours. | ||
| I hear exactly what you're saying. | ||
| How long do you go? | ||
| You only go out for a long weekend. | ||
| A couple days at a time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't go out. | ||
| I don't do these. | ||
| Duncan does, though. | ||
| Duncan's doing a 30-day tour right now. | ||
| He's a maniac. | ||
| He got a bus, the whole deal. | ||
| I don't do that. | ||
| I did it once. | ||
| It's not fun. | ||
| It's not enjoyable. | ||
| Was it fun at the beginning? | ||
| No. | ||
| The shows were fun, but it's too many days where you wake up, you stare at the ceiling, you have no idea where you are. | ||
| You're like, where am I? All my friends who are musicians do that, especially now that we're getting older. | ||
| But it was crazy. | ||
| Even when we were younger, I was like, man, you're living the dream. | ||
| And they're just like, I know I'm supposed to be enjoying this, but it's just not fucking... | ||
| One thing that helps is to do it with people you really like. | ||
| That helps a lot. | ||
| There's lots of stuff that helps, but there's still, you know, when you're a kid, you're just like, oh, getting fucked up, getting pussy, playing rock and roll, playing country, whatever it is, sounds like the ultimate life, and these people not having fun doing it. | ||
| Well, they also should get a fucking real job and remember what it's like to have to go somewhere every morning. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And work all day for someone that sucks. | ||
| It's just easy to get complacent. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| It's easy to not feel gratitude. | ||
| I used to spend my summers as a farmhand back in Kentucky. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What kind of farms? | ||
| Mostly horse... | ||
| Lexington, there's a lot of, like, rich fucks who just buy these giant... | ||
| They're not, like, really working farms. | ||
| They're just, like, they build themselves a farm. | ||
| Like Kentucky Derby type shit? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They just, like... | ||
| You forget that with horse racing, it's one of the only sports where the owner is the main guy. | ||
| I've made billions. | ||
| I've always loved horses. | ||
| The person they put on the screen when the horse wins the Kentucky Derby is the owner. | ||
| So you can buy yourself into it. | ||
| You're like, oh, I've always loved horses. | ||
| The Kentucky Derby, the owner's the rider? | ||
| No, the jockeys. | ||
| But I'm saying, you don't know the jockeys. | ||
| You know who the fucking owner is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is weird, right? | ||
| It's the only sport where you know the real... | ||
| But he's not on the horse, but he's winning. | ||
| And he didn't train it. | ||
| He has a trainer. | ||
| He didn't do a damn thing. | ||
| They show the trainer, they show the jockey, they show the horse, but the real person they interview is the owner. | ||
| So you buy a big farm in Kentucky, have some dumbass like me, like Weedy, or whatever... | ||
| Did you ever read the Kentucky Derby is decadent and depraved? | ||
| Oh, I fucking... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hunter S. Thompson, another Kentucky guy who's a hero of mine. | ||
| The best. | ||
| He was the best. | ||
| I mean, that's what started... | ||
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What a fucking... | |
| What a barbarian he was. | ||
| Fucking insane. | ||
| He was the best. | ||
| There's some pieces that he wrote to this day. | ||
| I'll read and I'll go, fucking... | ||
| I still think, you know, Fear and Loathing is one of my favorite books of all time. | ||
| Oh, Fear and Loathing is outstanding. | ||
| And you remember when they did that thing where Johnny Depp read the passage that he talked about, like, the change that was coming in the 1970s and how it all pulled back and that he saw it all happen? | ||
| I mean, he was the perfect guy to capture. | ||
| Oh, in the movie? | ||
| The movie was fucking great. | ||
| Johnny Depp was the perfect guy, but I mean, Hunter was the perfect guy to capture because he had been in the 60s in Berkeley during the acid times and, you know, the Timothy Leary and the Merry Pranksters and all that shit. | ||
| He had been with those guys and the Ken Keseys and then when it all pulled away and everybody just got locked up and went to jail and the war on drugs and all the things happened, he saw this death of the American dream and he put it so eloquently and then Johnny Depp, pretending to be him, did it for a scene in that movie and it's... | ||
| Fucking sensational. | ||
| I wonder, too, if it's because Johnny Depp's also from Kentucky. | ||
| He's also a good friend of his. | ||
| They were friends. | ||
| If you're from the same place and you're friends, it kind of probably seeps into you a little bit. | ||
| It certainly helps. | ||
| And Johnny stayed with him. | ||
| Like, when he was doing that movie, he stayed with him for a long time. | ||
| He lived with him. | ||
| But that book is a perfect example of, like... | ||
| Real, just, first of all, laugh out loud funny shit. | ||
| The funniest shit you've ever read. | ||
| Well, how about the way it opens up? | ||
| But so fucking, he can really, he goes deep, emotionally, you forget, he goes fucking deep in that. | ||
| Yeah, it is a great book. | ||
| That's his, well, between that and, there's a few things that he wrote, like small pieces that he wrote too, that just go, ugh. | ||
| There were some pieces right before he died that he wrote, I think it was on ESPN's website, that kind of predicted the whole world that was going to happen. | ||
| Yeah, that was when, after 9-11. | ||
| Yeah, check out those articles, man. | ||
| It was almost like he checked out because he knew what was going to happen. | ||
| Yeah, he was also like a serious alcoholic to the point where when he was almost dead, you couldn't even understand him anymore. | ||
| He would do shows. | ||
| He would do like, um, Conan, or not Conan. | ||
| Yeah, he did Conan. | ||
| He did Conan actually was one of the worst where they went out shooting. | ||
| They went to Woody Creek and they went shooting and Hunter was fucking hammered the entire time. | ||
| They're shooting guns in Colorado and you literally can't understand a fucking word he's saying. | ||
| He would get up and just get fucked up all fucking day. | ||
| He was so fucked up, though, that it was starting... | ||
| It was like he had poisoned his brain. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| Like, he had also been on serious pain pills because he had hip replacements. | ||
| I think both of his hips went bad, and... | ||
| Back then, dude, when they were doing hip replacements, it ain't like today. | ||
| Like, those hips weren't so good. | ||
| Like, today, they've got it down pretty good. | ||
| Where I've had some friends that got hip replacements, and they don't feel any pain. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's just they've replaced this socket with an artificial socket. | ||
| That used to be the old thing. | ||
| It's like, major surgery. | ||
| You don't hear much... | ||
| Well, dude, Graham Hancock was in here six weeks after he got a hip replacement, and he was walking without a limp. | ||
| I was like, how is that fucking possible? | ||
| And he's like, it's crazy. | ||
| And Graham was like in his 60s, right? | ||
| How old is Graham? | ||
| I think he's like maybe 60. At the very least, he's in his late 50s, and he got a hip replacement. | ||
| I remember when old people used to get, you know, had to get hip replacements. | ||
| It's like how you do they were about to check out. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| And it was an ugly, ugly, ugly operation. | ||
| When they did it, they'd saw off your fucking femur and screw a bolt in there. | ||
| And it's like there was a rod that had to go deep in your bone, and your bone has to take over that rod. | ||
| How old's Graham? | ||
| 65. So he's probably 62 or 63. And he got his hip replaced. | ||
| And six weeks later, he's walking without a limp. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| I mean, yeah, they're fucking... | ||
| I have a buddy who's a jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
| He's in his 30s. | ||
| He got both his hips replaced. | ||
| In his 30s. | ||
| And that's just from training and wrestling. | ||
| So how long ago would that surgery take you out? | ||
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Not that long. | |
| 10 years ago, like you couldn't even do it, really? | ||
| Yeah, 10 years ago, you'd be done. | ||
| And everything after that, you'd be done. | ||
| You'd be fucked. | ||
| You'd be in, like, real problems. | ||
| Well, it's a guy... | ||
| Because I watch, as any Kentuckian, I watch a lot of basketball. | ||
| That guy, Paul George... | ||
| Is he the guy I'm thinking about? | ||
| He broke his leg something awful last... | ||
| They were like, his career's over. | ||
| And I think he had a good season. | ||
| He did well this season. | ||
| It was as if nothing had happened. | ||
| His fucking bone came out of his fucking leg. | ||
| Those are dangerous, too. | ||
| And he, uh... | ||
| Can you see a picture of it? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Oh, no, I can't look at the picture. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He's back now all-star. | ||
| All-star. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| This is last year, right? | ||
| It was a couple years ago. | ||
| Two years ago, and he's an all-star this year. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| It's like just snapped. | ||
| But now, you know, they have all this way of healing things. | ||
| They use all sorts of different methods to accelerate healing. | ||
| They're getting so good at it. | ||
| Doctors are just fucking unbelievable at it now. | ||
| This is an incredible time to be injured. | ||
| If you get injured now, they fix you in a way that just wasn't available. | ||
| I have two replaced ACLs, but I have a buddy of mine, my friend Steve, who was on the ski team, the US ski team, in the 1980s. | ||
| He's a badass skier in the 1980s, and his knees are devastated. | ||
| He's had, and I would actually have to call him to confirm this, but I know he's had more than 20 knee surgeries. | ||
| How do you fucking go through that? | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| This guy's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, he's in his 60s. | ||
| He still fights. | ||
| He still goes to the gym and spars. | ||
| He's thinking about competing. | ||
| It's almost like going to the fucking dentist at that point. | ||
| Or getting a haircut or something. | ||
| He's just an animal. | ||
| There's certain people that pain is a non-factor to. | ||
| It's about functionality and movement. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Whoa, look at it poking out of the skin right there. | ||
| Holy jeez. | ||
| Is that the Louisville guy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's hardcore, dude. | ||
| You know how hardcore that is? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I felt for the guy. | ||
| And I fucking hate Louisville. | ||
| So that means it's serious shit. | ||
| That is serious. | ||
| It looks like it tore through the skin and all the muscle and everything too. | ||
| Like that is a serious catastrophic injury. | ||
| I remember that happened. | ||
| It was live on television. | ||
| They were worried about that with the Octagon. | ||
| They were worried about that ever happening. | ||
| You know, the only breaks we've seen on legs and arms have been non-compound breaks. | ||
| But I think when it happens like that guy just had it, it becomes more problematic because when it breaks the skin, you have all this possibility for infection that exists. | ||
| It gets real bad. | ||
| Well, I remember them really fast going over there with a towel and covering it up because it was on live TV and they covered it up. | ||
| Well, that's because they didn't want people to see it probably, right? | ||
| No, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| We live in a world where the first reaction was, get this shit off TV. Yeah. | ||
| Why not go to a fucking commercial? | ||
| Well, isn't it funny, man, that, like, movies... | ||
| There's every big action movie that you go to, you watch somebody die. | ||
| Every one of them. | ||
| Yeah, like, it's no big deal. | ||
| But if people fuck, it becomes a disgrace. | ||
| It's a real problem. | ||
| It's a disaster. | ||
| Like, if you actually watch... | ||
| Do you remember that Brown Bunny movie where, uh, Vincent... | ||
| What the fuck's his name? | ||
| Gallo. | ||
| He had a movie where Chloe... | ||
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Yeah, she fucking sucked his dick. | |
| She sucked his dick in the movie. | ||
| That's the only reason I saw it. | ||
| Yeah, that's the only reason why I saw it, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It seemed like the whole movie was just, like, getting to the blowjob. | ||
| Like, I was like, blah, blah, blah, let's cut to the scene here. | ||
| But why isn't it in there if I can go home and get on a fucking website in two seconds and see all that shit? | ||
| Well, I think his idea was, why can't we have a real sex scene? | ||
| Like, if you can have, like, people kissing for real and rubbing each other for real, but you know intellectually that they're not actually having sex, but... | ||
| It's supposed to be a sex scene. | ||
| So if you have these two people, Vincent Gallo and Chloe, that are adults, and they agree. | ||
| They agree. | ||
| Like, I think you're attractive, or I'm willing to do this, or I think it'd be cool to do this in the film. | ||
| I want to actually give you head in this movie. | ||
| Why is that bad? | ||
| So it was real? | ||
| It was 100% real. | ||
| It came on her face and everything. | ||
| Like, she sucked his dick. | ||
| Like a champ. | ||
| Outstanding. | ||
| But it's weird that everybody, I assume, has gotten their dick sucked. | ||
| I assume. | ||
| If you haven't, I feel so bad for you. | ||
| If you haven't put out a fucking record like mine, man. | ||
| Non-stop. | ||
| That's what happens? | ||
| Non-stop dick sucking? | ||
| I wish I had fucking two dicks right now. | ||
| When you did that video for Eatin' Pussy and Suckin' Dick or Eatin' Pussy and Kickin' Ass. | ||
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Suckin' Dick doesn't come in until the end. | |
| That audience, what was going on there? | ||
| Did they have any ideas? | ||
| I was told, because I got kind of thrown. | ||
| They told just an audience that you're just going to watch a guy just sing country. | ||
| I didn't know that they had told them that. | ||
| But there was only like 15 people in there. | ||
| Nah, I feel like there was more like 100, 50, 100. And so they were just waiting for a country song, which I found out later. | ||
| And then when I got to... | ||
| Even though eating pussy, their faces fucking dropped. | ||
| I knew this is not my best gig. | ||
| And then I was like, we got to get to the dick sucking, which is going to ramp it up a notch. | ||
| And... | ||
| Then a couple people walked out and weren't too happy, but I'll tell you what, it's one for the ages. | ||
| It certainly got the shit out there. | ||
| I was amazed that nobody yelled anything out. | ||
| Nobody told you to stop. | ||
| Well, I think they were... | ||
| Someone told me that they were extras, so I think they probably locked... | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I didn't know I was walking into a fucking Ali G kind of thing. | ||
| Oh, that's funny. | ||
| I'm just there to play this fucking Dirty Country song. | ||
| Oh, that's funny. | ||
| So they just hired some country-looking people. | ||
| No, I think they hired people who said they were fans of country music. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then they said, do you want to be a part of a music video? | ||
| Just have a seat. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because you could see, like, there's a guy... | ||
| Paul, why don't you play it, Jamie? | ||
| Play it. | ||
| What's the video called? | ||
| It's called Eatin' Pussy and Kickin' Ass. | ||
| Play at least a second from the one on the album. | ||
| Okay, but the one... | ||
| I want to watch the one from The Ben Show. | ||
| What was the falling out with Ben? | ||
| He's just fucking out. | ||
| He didn't even pay me for that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| He didn't pay me for the music or even the appearance. | ||
| That's so rude. | ||
| But look, you have the last laugh. | ||
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Here it goes. | |
| What's he doing now? | ||
| These people in the audience, they couldn't be any better. | ||
| I like the American flag. | ||
| See, I didn't have a beer at the time, so they're like, watch it. | ||
| And I didn't want to, I was scared about getting myself out there, so I put on a fake fucking goatee so they wouldn't know who I was. | ||
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Eating pussy and kicking ass. | |
| That's what I do. | ||
| They don't know what to do with you. | ||
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Pussy in the morning, pussy in the night. | |
| Eat a lot of pussy, then I get into a fight. | ||
| Look at her! | ||
| Thursday night, I was feeling pretty good. | ||
| I was walking down the boulevard of Hollywood. | ||
| I see this young girl, she's smiling at me. | ||
| So I took her back to my hotel and paid the fee. | ||
| I knew that something was wrong where they're supposed to be a pussy. | ||
|
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This girl had a dog. | |
| Hold on, keep going a little bit. | ||
| Anyway, I sucked his dick, and then I kicked his ass. | ||
|
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Sucking dick. | |
| Kicking ass. | ||
| second dick and kicking ass. | ||
| Sucking dick and kicking ass. | ||
| Look at her closing her ears. | ||
|
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Sucking dick and kicking ass. | |
| Eating pussy, sucking dick and kicking ass. | ||
| Eating pussy, sucking dick and kicking ass. Eating pussy, sucking dick and kicking ass. | ||
| Eating pussy, sucking dick and kicking ass. | ||
| Oh, I love that video. | ||
| I look like a fucking little kid there. | ||
| Did anybody get mad at you after that was over? | ||
| No, because I just went back to this fucking trailer and I never even talked to him again. | ||
| Can you go to the version of that? | ||
| I want you to hear what a great fucking producer he is. | ||
| Okay, go to the... | ||
| There's another version of that, Jamie, that's just the album. | ||
| You just see the cover photo, and then you hear the music. | ||
| Same song. | ||
| Here we go, folks. | ||
| Here's the produced version of it. | ||
| Oh, fuck yeah. | ||
|
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Yeah, all right, man. | |
| More feeling, buddy. | ||
| Keep it in mind, I'm fucking yelling at the man. | ||
|
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This is good. | |
| Dude, I'm fucking 12 years old. I'm fucking 12 years old. | ||
| I really am. | ||
| That's what happens when you don't censor yourself. | ||
| You become a kid again, you know? | ||
| I'm always like this. | ||
| This is my kind of music. | ||
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Well, it's bigger than Winona. | |
| That is so ridiculous. | ||
| I want to hear the second part about sucking dick and ass. | ||
| Let's keep it going. | ||
| This version's probably long, right? | ||
| Maybe fast forward to the sucking dick. | ||
| Try to find this dick sucking part, please. | ||
| When you're in a studio, you kind of milk it. | ||
| Is there more verses in this one? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh man, I went on forever. | ||
| Once you're money, you just keep playing. | ||
| So you had a bunch of these in this one, not just two. | ||
| I like that you went right from one to the next in front of those people. | ||
| Oh, here we go. | ||
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I see this young girl, she smiled at me, so I took her back to my place and I played for you. | |
| By the way, on the end of this, you can hear the fan actually get pissed. | ||
|
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I was bored, and since I paid any way, I sucked his dick, and then I kicked his ass. | |
| Suckin' dick, kickin' ass. | ||
| Suckin' dick, kickin' ass. | ||
| That's the drummer, Chris, on the background. | ||
| How good does his voice sound? | ||
| That low voice? | ||
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Suckin' dick, kickin' ass. | |
| Pussy sucking dick and kicking ass. | ||
| Come on, buddy. | ||
| Pussy sucking dick and kicking ass. | ||
|
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Pussy sucking dick and kicking ass. | |
| I'm over here sweating. | ||
| Oh, listen. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
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Fucking play, motherfucker! | |
| Where'd everybody go? | ||
| What are they mad about? | ||
| They didn't know how I was going. | ||
| Same thing, because they didn't watch that clip. | ||
| They didn't know where I was going. | ||
| But there's a song, Sit On My Face, that's the one that people keep requesting. | ||
| So they literally didn't know where you were going with that song? | ||
| Well, they knew... | ||
| The record people. | ||
| There's no record? | ||
| I mean, it's me. | ||
| I mean, the people you were doing it with. | ||
| I told the producer, like, don't tell... | ||
| It's getting pussy-kicking ass, and don't tell them about the... | ||
| Oh, don't tell the other artists. | ||
| Don't tell the drummer, guitar player, and the, you know, bass player that it's gonna go to the sucking dick, because they hadn't seen the clip. | ||
| So they love the song, and they still like it, you know, they still love it, but, you know, it would be funny to, uh... | ||
| I thought it'd be funny to fuck with them, because I always just like fucking with people, you know? | ||
| And, uh... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What were they talking about? | ||
| They didn't even get high. | ||
| Uh, Sit On My Face. | ||
| Oh yeah, it's a new one people are always requesting. | ||
| But listen to that fucking country. | ||
| This is on some country shit, man. | ||
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Yeah, ain't much to look at. | |
| And you can lose a few. | ||
| You got saggy titties, but tonight it'll lose. | ||
| Cause I learned a lesson a long time ago. | ||
| Beggars can't be choosin' when the bar starts to close. | ||
| Sit on my face cause I ain't too picky and ride my mile till your pussy gets sticky and all. | ||
| I mean, that's some good country shit, you know? | ||
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It's good! | |
| You tell me there's better country music out there than that right there. | ||
| The music is good. | ||
| Well, we got the best fucking record out there right now, I'm telling you. | ||
| But what's good is, like, the sounds are good. | ||
| Like, I like the way it starts. | ||
| It's like, it's cool. | ||
| It pulls you in. | ||
| It's the, like I said, best producer, best players in Nashville doing this. | ||
| And they had a fucking blast. | ||
| I mean, like I said, I'm gonna get banned from Music Robot. | ||
| I don't give a fuck. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| They're dead. | ||
| They're all dead in the water. | ||
| You can't sell records anymore. | ||
| Nobody sells records. | ||
| You sell things on iTunes. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Nobody's buying records. | ||
| What percentage of records actually get bought? | ||
| How many people have a CD in their house anymore? | ||
| It's none. | ||
| It's all gone. | ||
| I don't even know how to get the CD onto my fucking phone anymore. | ||
| I've had two cars in a row at a three-year lease where I never put a single fucking thing in the CD holder. | ||
| You know the little CD slot? | ||
| It's in two fucking cars in a row. | ||
| Two leases, three-year leases. | ||
| So I haven't used a CD in six years at least. | ||
| You want to hear something funny? | ||
| Like you're saying, it's about selling the other shit. | ||
| Well, selling them on iTunes. | ||
| We're talking about like merch so we have this that shirt I gave you with the logo on it and a bunch of people were kept emailing me to That they I wish I had an example of it, but they kept email By they kept emailing me that we don't have fat fuck sizes. | ||
| That was what their literal words I get that at higherprimate.com too. | ||
| People always get mad at me. | ||
| So I go I call the merch people I go Make some fat fuck sizes. | ||
| And they're like, you mean like double X? I go, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They go, also, underneath in red letters, I want it to say fat fuck size under the logo. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| And they're like, seriously? | ||
| I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If you're fat fuck, you, you know, you gotta wear this shirt. | ||
| We're proud. | ||
| We can't keep them in stock. | ||
| You can buy a Wheeler Walk on my website, on my fucking, whatever, merch store. | ||
| You can buy a Wheeler Walk. | ||
| Not only can you buy fat fucks, if you're a fat fuck, you can't buy the regular shirt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have to lose the weight or you got to buy a fat fuck size. | ||
| Every double XL, triple XL says fat fuck size, big red letters. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| And like I said, we can't keep them in stock. | ||
| I bet a lot of girls are sleeping in them, like 90s. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you should see, one girl sent me a picture of her in the shirt. | ||
| It goes to her fucking feet. | ||
| You know, it's like she put a belt around it and go, you know. | ||
| Go out for the night like it's a dress. | ||
| So you were about that far away from quitting music. | ||
| There it is, fat fuck size. | ||
| Only 20 bucks. | ||
| That's a good deal, dude. | ||
| You were like that close to quitting music, and now everything's happening. | ||
| No, yeah, no. | ||
| This was... | ||
| This is it. | ||
| This is my parting song. | ||
| I'm going to play my final show, and we're going to fucking... | ||
| I'm going to go back to Kentucky, live on, you know, farm, try to, you know, had an ex and all that kind of bullshit. | ||
| And I was like, this was my parting gift as, you know, like a game show or something. | ||
| And then... | ||
| I got a call, like... | ||
| Actually, it was before it came out. | ||
| They're like, we think it's gonna sell. | ||
| And my manager's a fucking piece of shit, dumbass. | ||
| But he's like... | ||
| And he was about to move on to find another job himself. | ||
| And then it's... | ||
| It's... | ||
| You... | ||
| Going to the studio, not giving a shit, putting out an album about how fucking shitty your life is and how everything's going to shit, and not giving a shit what people think, this is the one that's gonna work, you know? | ||
| So we call, he's like, you're, you know, like I said, we had a bunch of pre-sales, too. | ||
| Like, I guess on iTunes you can buy it before it comes out. | ||
| So we knew before that week. | ||
| They're like, the pre-sales, like, you're not, the number, he... | ||
| My people called Amazon and iTunes thinking there was a mistake on both of them. | ||
| They're like, how can... | ||
| Because we only put out a couple songs on YouTube. | ||
| How does it sound this fucking much? | ||
| Like, it's a decimal point in the wrong place. | ||
| And Amazon asked for a new shipment. | ||
| We didn't even have the fucking CD. We had to go print more. | ||
| We made like a thousand or something. | ||
| Are you going to do another one? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| You gonna keep going? | ||
| No, the thing is, I was gonna quit, and now it's like, fuck that, you know. | ||
| Well, this seems like it'd be fun to write this shit, too. | ||
| Well, that's why it is. | ||
| Well, that's the whole point, is making music and writing songs is supposed to be fun, and when you write from the heart, and you write without censoring yourself, the unfun part is trying to fit your nasty thoughts into something clean. | ||
| That's where it becomes unfun. | ||
| Do you think you're gonna do a musical video for which one of you queers gonna suck my dick? | ||
| Um, I'd like to. | ||
| We're talking to Spielberg about it right now. | ||
| He wants to do it, it's just a budget issue right now. | ||
| Where do you want to do it? | ||
| What? | ||
| In California? | ||
| Want to do it in like Santa Monica? | ||
| Well, it's up to him. | ||
| I think, you know, maybe... | ||
| I'd love to do it in Europe somewhere. | ||
| Somewhere in Europe would be good. | ||
| Yeah, like really Euro-gay guys? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I want to do it the right... | ||
| That's the right way. | ||
| That's a song you don't take that shit lightly. | ||
| You do it the right way or you don't do it. | ||
| There are different kind of gay people in Europe, right? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| They wear better clothes. | ||
| They're like... | ||
| You mean a higher class? | ||
| Super coiffed. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The ones... | ||
| They wear makeup. | ||
| They have their hair done right. | ||
| Maybe I will do it in Europe. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like a Bruno thing. | ||
| You know, remember Bruno? | ||
| Yeah, fuck yeah. | ||
|
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Ollie G. Um, that was a fucking funny movie. | |
| Ali G's the best. | ||
| But I heard his new movie, like people didn't dig it. | ||
| I saw it. | ||
| Did you like it? | ||
| It was pretty fun. | ||
| I mean, it was funny, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But the problem is, when you compare it to the shit he does, you can't compare a movie. | ||
| It's like, the other shit wasn't a movie. | ||
| This is like, it's just a real, it wasn't funny, it was dirty, you know. | ||
| But it's actual drama comedy, you know, it's like a comedy. | ||
| It's just like a comedy, yeah. | ||
| A film scripted. | ||
| It wasn't like... | ||
| Ground, you know, it wasn't like you're living it, you know? | ||
| Like Borat. | ||
| Yeah, I think I can see- Borat was so ridiculously funny. | ||
| Fuck, that movie was funny. | ||
| It's a problem, because it's so ridiculous, and he'd have a really hard time doing that again. | ||
| It's almost like to do that, he's got to not do it for years, and then people forget about it, and then go back in and do it again. | ||
| He did something at the Oscars this year. | ||
| He presented an award, and I guess he had to agree to not do any sort of thing. | ||
| He was just going to be himself, but he snuck in his character using his wife and did it anyway, and it was an okay funny bit. | ||
| It was funny if you've seen this clip. | ||
| Someone showed me this. | ||
| My brother actually showed it to me. | ||
| He got this Charlie Chaplin award. | ||
| Did you see that thing? | ||
| Charlie Chaplin Award? | ||
| A couple years ago, they gave him this award for, you know, there's like a Charlie Chaplin Award for like greatness in comedy or something. | ||
| And he did this bit, I don't want to give it away if you haven't seen it, but it was the funniest fucking thing I've seen. | ||
| You find that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Can we watch it? | ||
| I don't know if we can play it or not. | ||
|
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Probably not. | |
| It's got over 4 million views. | ||
| Yeah, we'll get pulled. | ||
| So go ahead and look it up. | ||
| It's on the BBC America. | ||
| Tell people what is the title of the video again. | ||
| It's Sacha Baron Cohen Kills Presenter and Accepts Award Extended. | ||
| I guess I just gave away the video. | ||
| Britannia Awards on BBC America. | ||
| Can I tell you what happened? | ||
| Or do I ruin it for them? | ||
| You'd probably ruin it for everybody. | ||
| But do what you want to do, man. | ||
| That's what you're into. | ||
| Check out the video. | ||
| It's really fun. | ||
| Okay, I'll definitely check it out. | ||
| It's a good time for crazy shit. | ||
| It's the perfect time for you to come out with this album. | ||
| What I say, every day is the new best day for this crazy shit. | ||
| Because every day people give less of a fuck. | ||
| The honest truth is, you know, I met the producer and I talked to Sturgill and I said, you know, I asked about the, you know, because he was the only guy I knew who knew Dave. | ||
| I go, And I go, is he cool? | ||
| He goes, he don't give a fuck. | ||
| Hired right there. | ||
| Nowadays, that's an ultimate compliment you can give me about anyone. | ||
| He meant it as a compliment, too. | ||
| Right, those are the people you want to hang out with. | ||
| All I care about is people who... | ||
| You know, I'm sure your audience knows, but there's people out there who think the phrase don't give a fuck is a negative, you know, like I don't care. | ||
| I care too much that I need someone who doesn't care about the other shit. | ||
| It's changing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That phrase is changing. | ||
| Now it's a different thing now. | ||
| Like not giving a fuck was like you were an idiot or a loser. | ||
| Oh, he doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| He's a dummy. | ||
| But now it's like, I don't give a fuck! | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Listen, I could get banned from Nashville, but I don't give a fuck because I'm making the record I want to make. | ||
| Well, it's just amazing that that's how it worked out, you know, that this thing's taken off because you just said, fuck it, let's just go all in. | ||
| And like I said, this is like the perfect time. | ||
| The perfect time to go all in. | ||
| I hate to bring it back to you, but I'm here, but... | ||
| You didn't do the podcast to get listeners. | ||
| You just want something you wanted to do. | ||
| Just did it for fun. | ||
| You did it for fun. | ||
| I did this record. | ||
| I was just like, I want to do it for fun. | ||
| That's when things are good, man. | ||
| When you actually enjoy them. | ||
| That shit is making me laugh. | ||
| It's actually the opposite, which is, I assume no one's going to ever hear this, so I'm just going to go fucking all out. | ||
| So actually, it's kind of not scary, but when it debuted, like I said, number nine on the Billboard country charts, outselling all the big boys, I'm like... | ||
| Holy fuck, what the fuck do I do now? | ||
| Because then you've got to double down and make it go even crazier. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, and then that's when... | ||
| Because then they're like, you know, you're real fucking... | ||
| Is it as you walk it like I... You talk it. | ||
| So I get on my Twitter and I fucking rip on Nashville, rip on the music business, rip on all these fuckers. | ||
| And that's how you're getting banned. | ||
| I'm getting banned by... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So these Florida Georgia line guys, they got mad at you? | ||
| They blocked you? | ||
| They blocked... | ||
| So there's a new guy. | ||
| I don't even remember his name. | ||
| He blocked me too. | ||
| I got blocked by... | ||
| Who's Megan? | ||
| Is Megan Trainor? | ||
| Is that her name? | ||
| Megan Trainor. | ||
| She's not country. | ||
| She's all about that base. | ||
| Oh, she blocked you? | ||
| You know those promoted tweets that are on your fucking thing? | ||
|
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Right. | |
| I said, get this shit off my page, and then she got blocked. | ||
| That's not much to block me. | ||
| Promoted tweets are sneaky as fuck, aren't they? | ||
| I know, but it said promoted tweets, so I go, I've seen this fucking tweet 18 times today. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| She got a new fucking album. | ||
| I don't mind a promoted Instagram thing, because I feel like, ah, go ahead. | ||
| I'm getting it all for free. | ||
| You've got to get money out of this somehow. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| I've done, I don't think I did a promoted tweet on Twitter, but I've done it on Facebook. | ||
| And like half the comments are like, get this shit. | ||
| It's the same thing as me, but I don't block them. | ||
| I gotta take a picture of you while you're here. | ||
|
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Speaking of Instagram, bam. | |
| Legit. | ||
| Bam. | ||
|
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Bam. | |
| Yeah, I gotta do it too. | ||
| Hold on, how do I do this shit? | ||
| Don't you know how to do it? | ||
| We gotta take a picture together. | ||
| We'll do all that, man. | ||
| I just wanted to get a picture of you in the moment. | ||
| That's my new thing. | ||
| Get someone in the middle of the podcast. | ||
| No posing before the podcast. | ||
| This conversation's going down. | ||
| Right, Jamie? | ||
| That's why we started doing the pictures for the podcast. | ||
| We used to have this pose, which I always felt was weird. | ||
| I was like, why don't we just have one in the middle of us talking and use that? | ||
| And that way you can see what a mess this place is, too. | ||
| There's chaos to my left here. | ||
| You got a picture? | ||
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Eating pussy and kicking ass. | |
| Eating pussy and kicking ass. | ||
| That's a catchy goddamn song, man. | ||
| Eating pussy and kicking ass. | ||
| I think Fuck You Bitch is the catchiest song. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| Eating pussy and kicking ass makes me sing all day long. | ||
| I sing that shit all the time. | ||
|
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Eating pussy and kicking ass. | |
| Eating pussy and kicking ass. | ||
| Everyone's got different favorites. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Different strokes for different folks. | ||
| It's funny, too, because you never, like... | ||
| When you make a record, it's like... | ||
| I thought about not putting that song on. | ||
| I was like, people have heard it on that other show before. | ||
| I was probably not going to put it on the record. | ||
| And that's one of the people... | ||
| You know, there was a couple songs that the ones that people liked the most were the ones I was like, I don't know if I want to record. | ||
| Probably happens in comedy, too. | ||
| Like, I don't know if this joke's... | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's kind of like a throwaway joke, and it ends up getting the biggest fucking laugh of the show. | ||
| You never know when you actually write something out. | ||
| That's what's funny. | ||
| You know, you write things out, and you go, eh, this part don't work that good. | ||
| And that part gets this huge fucking laugh. | ||
| And you're like, oh. | ||
| Like... | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's weird what people like. | ||
| You know, some songs, I mean, it's got to be there's some songs that you don't think are your best songs and people will pull you aside. | ||
| Like with Sturgill, it's a You Can Have the Crown song. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He fucking hates that song, man. | ||
| I'm telling you, dude, I listen to that song all the fucking time. | ||
| I love it too, yeah. | ||
| That song is one of my all-time favorite songs and he doesn't even like it. | ||
| It happens all the time. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like, well, the title track, Redneck Shit, I try to talk, he finally talked me into recording, because it's my demo, you know, because it's weird, because it's your song. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So when someone's telling you that your song is, it's like a, and you're telling them it's not, it's like a weird argument. | ||
| You're arguing about yourself. | ||
| I go, let's try it. | ||
| And it was so good that I put the title track, first track on the record. | ||
| You know, like, he was right, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's why you need that second voice sometimes. | ||
| Well, Redneck Shit is a good one, too. | ||
| It's like a good introduction song to what you're doing. | ||
| And having it be the first song is smart. | ||
| Because if someone listens to that, then they'll get hooked. | ||
| And then by the time they get to eating pussy and kicking ass, they're already in. | ||
| Well, that's what I've noticed. | ||
| If you look on iTunes later, like... | ||
| Every fucking country record on iTunes, it's all five stars, because everyone who buys it on the ratings, they all buy it, they know what they're getting, they love it. | ||
| I'm the only one on there. | ||
| Like, literally, it's five stars, one star, five stars, one star. | ||
| And I promise, because it's like, this is not what country music is supposed to be. | ||
| You can't curse in country. | ||
| And I'm telling you right now, those one-star fuckers are selling my album way more than the five-star fuckers. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| What was it like from that private part? | ||
| I'm paraphrasing, but the five-star people are telling three friends, the one-star people are telling 20 friends. | ||
| And they're the ones getting the word out. | ||
| Because I don't know why they think it's so... | ||
| I love country music so much, and my heroes so much, that I hate to see what's happening to it. | ||
| And then those fuckers who listen to this dogshit fucking pop rap garbage are yelling at me that I'm disrespecting country music. | ||
| I go, this is fucking country music, you know. | ||
| If you don't like the word fuck, that's fine. | ||
| That has nothing to do with what I'm doing. | ||
| But if you think that it's not legit because I'm cursing, or talking about fucking... | ||
| Sucking dicks. | ||
| Yeah, or like, Family Tree's a song about my girl... | ||
| That I like her sister better, but then I... All you do is you just add to, you know, it's like, I'm dating this girl, but I want to fuck her sister. | ||
| But then, of course, I take it a step further. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I'd rather fuck your uncle and your fucking dad. | ||
| Lick your fucking dad's balls. | ||
| You know, and then you go crazy, and it's like... | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| You don't really want to do that, but it's just funny to think about it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then you go toward the song, and of course, the players are like, what the fuck are you saying about me? | ||
| But it does make the point. | ||
| I mean, there's a song on here called Can't Fuck You Off My Mind. | ||
| It's just a can't drink you off my mind, they used to say, and now it's like, you've been through that. | ||
| Everyone's had a heartbreak. | ||
| But, you know, and you try to fuck some other girls to get over it, and all you're doing is thinking about the first girl. | ||
| Try to fuck a bunch of girls, and it never works. | ||
| No, it works. | ||
| You gotta fuck the right girls. | ||
| Well, I fucked the wrong ones, but... | ||
| If you fuck the right ones, you don't even care about the other one. | ||
| Well, but don't you think that's something people can relate to, at the very least? | ||
| So, they can't sing about that. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| Another thing, too, is one... | ||
| Mainstream press, especially, except for a few places, pretty much, like, there's no reviews of it, really, anywhere. | ||
| But one guy wrote a review I thought was pretty interesting. | ||
| He actually used that... | ||
| Florida Georgia Line as an example. | ||
| I wish I could remember who it was. | ||
| It might have been a blog called Saving Country Music. | ||
| I think that's what it was. | ||
| And they used an example of a Florida Georgia Line lyric that was like, talking about sticking my pink in your straw. | ||
| It was like... | ||
| He was saying in an article about how these mainstream guys who talk this dirty shit but sugarcoat it and little girls are hearing it. | ||
| What are they saying? | ||
| You stick your pink in my mouth? | ||
| I don't know the actual. | ||
| Really? | ||
| But it was kind of gross. | ||
| But they do that to have it censored. | ||
| To have it be played on the radio so they can make money. | ||
| What I'm doing is much better because I'm saying this is for adults. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The CD and the online has the sticker on it. | ||
| Adults on parental advisory. | ||
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Right. | |
| Don't yell at them. | ||
| They're the ones trying to give it to kids. | ||
| This is for adults. | ||
| I'm saying that since the fucking beginning. | ||
| Don't worry about the criticism, man. | ||
| I'm just happy you're doing it. | ||
| He was saying it in a positive way, by the way. | ||
| I like the belt buckle, too, by the way. | ||
| You should sell those. | ||
| Yeah, well, I think I fucking lost it. | ||
| People would buy those. | ||
| You should have that Wheeler Walker belt buckle made up. | ||
| You know what's cool? | ||
| Let me talk about that shirt, too. | ||
| Is that just a single W, right? | ||
| Well, yeah, they didn't... | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I want to make a W.W. Junior. | ||
| Well, you need a big R or something. | ||
| Yeah, I need an R. That shirt was made for me in California by the Nudie's... | ||
| You remember Nudie's? | ||
| Those old nudie suits that they used to wear in the 60s. | ||
| You guys remember that? | ||
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Nudies? | |
| It sounds... | ||
| There's this guy, I think he was... | ||
| I think it's Ralph Nudie. | ||
| He used to... | ||
| He made the suits that you would see in the old Western movies. | ||
| How do you spell it? | ||
| N-U-D-I-E, like Nudie magazine? | ||
| Yeah, and he would make these Nudie suits at Buck Owens and people like that. | ||
| Well, what happened was they used to be in the old westerns, these crazy suits. | ||
| And people like Elvis or Johnny Cash used to watch those westerns. | ||
| They started calling this guy... | ||
| Roy Orbison. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who's that guy? | ||
| His name is... | ||
| Is it Ralph Nudie? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Ralph Nudy. | ||
| So these people like Elvis or Johnny Cash, Hank Williams even, they're like, I want a suit like they wore in, you know, whatever, Western movie. | ||
| And then he started making clothes for musicians. | ||
| Dolly Parton's there. | ||
| Who's that dude right there? | ||
| Barry Klein? | ||
| Who's Barry Klein? | ||
| Is that Patsy Cline's dad? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's Grant Parsons. | ||
| He's got a nice Cadillac there. | ||
| Anyway, but I guess his granddaughter, somebody kept it going, and they reopened in L.A. for a little while. | ||
| I think they're back out of business. | ||
| I'm not sure, but that's an actual Nudie shirt. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Made for me. | ||
| I had to get a fucking tailor and everything. | ||
| That's pretty goddamn classic. | ||
| It costs more than a fucking record. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Oh, yeah, there it is. | ||
| I love shit like that. | ||
| Nudie's Rodeo Tailors. | ||
| Hollywood, California. | ||
| I put the credit inside, too, yeah. | ||
| So, are they still around? | ||
| Well, I think they're bringing it back, yeah. | ||
| Oh, they have t-shirts. | ||
| They're going red Ed Hardy on you. | ||
| They're going to have glitter. | ||
| It's going to be glitter on those fucking t-shirts. | ||
| But anyway, I called the tailor and they made me that. | ||
| I just wanted that label on the back. | ||
| That's so cool. | ||
| I love things like that. | ||
| I think they got a museum. | ||
| Yeah, it was cool. | ||
| Because I just looked it up. | ||
| What I did was, that's what's great about the internet. | ||
| Because I looked it up. | ||
| I was like, it's the kind of shirt I want for my record code. | ||
| And then I said, oh, I want a nudie shirt. | ||
| And I look it up. | ||
| All of a sudden, I see their website. | ||
| And I look at it. | ||
| And you can get one made by, you know... | ||
| It's just there. | ||
| I don't want one like it. | ||
| I just want it. | ||
| No, that's cool. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| He used to soup up Elvis' cars and shit. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, the nudies did a bunch of car shit. | ||
| Elvis had a souped up car? | ||
| Yeah, but what they did to those suits, they would do it to cars, like horns coming out of it and glitter and all that. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Look at this thing. | ||
| That's that famous Elvis suit. | ||
| He made Elvis a gold, shiny suit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is the one with the car though? | ||
| Go back to that car. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Elvis had a giant white Cadillac. | ||
| If it's not Elvis, who's it saying? | ||
| That's a nudie car, yeah. | ||
| It might be his. | ||
| Was it his car? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe it was... | ||
| So he designed, like... | ||
| I think you can go, there's a museum around here somewhere you can go check it out. | ||
| I wonder if that was his? | ||
| But that, that's, why is there a rifle? | ||
| Look at, there's a rifle back there. | ||
| You're allowed to put a... | ||
| What? | ||
| There's a rifle going to the car. | ||
| He's got two rifles on the sides, but one of them that's in, like, a firing position to shoot at people behind you. | ||
| Well, when I make... | ||
| What the fuck is that, man? | ||
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Listen. | |
| If you're fans... | ||
| I'll make a promise right here. | ||
| If I get to number one, I'm wearing a nudie suit non-stop for a fucking week. | ||
| A week? | ||
| A whole week? | ||
| Actually, I take it back a year. | ||
| A year? | ||
| A year I like. | ||
| I like a year. | ||
| Number one? | ||
| I'll tour. | ||
| I'll tour with a... | ||
| Because those nudie suits cost fucking five grand. | ||
| I feel like people are just finding out about you. | ||
| I feel like this ride has just started for you. | ||
| Well, that's what happened, like I was saying. | ||
| When it debuted so high, I went home and I was like, that's crazy that it debuted so high. | ||
| Then you get hungry. | ||
| You go home and you're like, Fuck them even worse up their ass. | ||
| I'm gonna go, I'm gonna tour, I'm gonna do the video, I'm gonna go for it now. | ||
| Well, people, there's, I think a lot of people don't even know about you yet. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| You know, and hopefully with this podcast and with some other podcasts and all the YouTube videos and... | ||
| Between that, yeah, you helping out and, you know, I appreciate it again coming on the show. | ||
| I had a fucking blast, man. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| It's fun shit. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| And I love that you're a fan, you know. | ||
| I love that there's places like this where I can fucking talk about it. | ||
| I love that there is, too. | ||
| I don't even know how it happened. | ||
| I wish I could say that I planned this whole thing out. | ||
| This is all total dumb luck. | ||
| Anyone who happens upon my record, if they find me, I just... | ||
| I mean, you've got one of the biggest podcasts in the world, but even if... | ||
| I've done interviews with people just like, I like the record, will you be on my fucking... | ||
| We've got like 30 fucking... | ||
| I'll do it. | ||
| If they're that big a fan, I don't give a shit. | ||
| Oh, that's cool of you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's going to change, though, once you run out of time. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Fuck those fuckers. | ||
| You're going to get too many people. | ||
| It's going to be Joe Rogan only soon, but... | ||
| There's a lot of other cool ones. | ||
| You've got to do like Burt Kreischer and do as many people as you can around town. | ||
| Yeah, while I'm here and not playing Coachella, I may as well do the whole fucking round. | ||
| It's hilarious that Coachella thought you were too risque. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I would love to see you up there. | ||
| You can pussy. | ||
| You know, I think it is... | ||
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You know, I think part of it is... | |
| It's like in the kind of... | ||
| I think it's because it's country, and it's just so weird to hear it. | ||
| And also when it's not as loud, so all the bad words are so fucking clear. | ||
| You can hear it so well. | ||
| Like, when you sing clit, you can really hear it. | ||
| I just would love to see all those fucking hipsters that are just going to the cool thing. | ||
| Like, people are like, we're here for the cool thing, now we're going to Coachella. | ||
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It's going to be amazing. | |
| That's the whole fucking... | ||
| Sucking bitch. | ||
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It's funny you brought that up. | |
| No, but seriously, I'm glad you brought that up, because part of the point of this record, too, was to piss off everybody. | ||
| I wanted, you know, my redneck friends back home, I wanted them to get pissed off by this. | ||
| I wanted the hipsters to get pissed off by, you know, like, there's something to piss off everybody. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the goal was, again, talking about thinking no one's gonna hear it, the goal was to fucking make sure nobody bought it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I did everything in my power to make sure no one would listen to it, and I think that's the key, you know, because there's something to piss off everyone on here. | ||
| It's a hilarious idea. | ||
| The whole idea behind it is hilarious. | ||
| But I think people get that you can't make music like this that sounds like that if it's not coming from a real fucking place, you know? | ||
| I think, yeah. | ||
| And I think this kind of stuff, I mean, it's going to sound grand and ridiculous, but I think this ushers in the future. | ||
| Because it's proving... | ||
| People like a lot of stuff that you're not going to get it from these mainstream purveyors. | ||
| You're just not going to get it from. | ||
| They're not going to risk it. | ||
| They're not going to put the money out for something like this. | ||
| Because they can't sell it to their radio stations. | ||
| They can't do what they normally do. | ||
| They don't have a place for it. | ||
| They don't know what it is. | ||
| So then you come along, you do it on your own. | ||
| It takes off like a fucking wildfire. | ||
| And now they're scrambling. | ||
| You must be getting a lot of mainstream music producer guys and executives that are coming to you trying to get in on this. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| You always got to remember, like we were talking about, don't give a fuck. | ||
| You got to keep that attitude or you're going to fall down the fucking... | ||
| They're going to drag you into the fucking devil's nest. | ||
| Then it's going to be like... | ||
| And listen, I like money. | ||
| We all like money. | ||
| But they're going to go, hey... | ||
| If you tone down a little bit on the next one, we can get you on whatever, you know, we can get you on MTV or CMT or whatever it is. | ||
| And then I'll go, and they're like, you know, that'll be ten times the money. | ||
| And then, you know, I'll think about it, don't get me wrong, but I just got to stick with... | ||
| Listen, if I... See, I think they're wrong, though. | ||
| It might be ten times the money right now, but I think in the future... | ||
| But also... | ||
| Dude, this is going to be giant, man. | ||
| I don't give a fucking shit if it doesn't sell ten times. | ||
| Well, that's good. | ||
| Because... | ||
| If I'm not doing it the way I want it, then I'll be miserable. | ||
| But because you are doing it the way you want it, it's fucking hilarious. | ||
| So like, what kind of people, you don't have to name names, what kind of people have come up to you and have tried to get in on this? | ||
| What kind of music executive type characters? | ||
| I'll say, and I'm talking about country stars and country music executives, I won't name names, the biggest of the biggest. | ||
| I'm not gonna name names, but I'm talking about the biggest stars in country have contacted me Well, a couple different things. | ||
| I've heard through the grapevine, because I don't travel in those circles. | ||
| But some people who really love it, some people have reached out to friends of mine who know me, making sure that I don't shit on them, because I talk shit about everybody. | ||
| And they're like, couldn't you tell them I'm cool? | ||
| So he doesn't shit on me. | ||
| And a couple people, some of the big boys, and some of these I wouldn't even mind naming, but they don't want... | ||
| It's funny, too, because I have some fans who are literally the biggest country stars on planet Earth who won't Until it becomes okay to say it, they're not saying it right now. | ||
| They said it to my face. | ||
| I've literally met them and they said it to my face. | ||
| But they won't say it anywhere because they don't want to lose their fucking fans. | ||
| Like once it becomes, if it becomes mainstream, which I hope it doesn't, but if it does, maybe it'll be cool, you know? | ||
| What's mainstream though? | ||
| Who the fuck knows? | ||
| I mean, there's no mainstream anymore. | ||
| Mainstream used to be radio and television. | ||
| Nobody gives a fuck about The Tonight Show anymore. | ||
| Like being on The Tonight Show? | ||
| For a band? | ||
| Does that mean anything anymore? | ||
| They were talking to me about that, you know, because one thing you do is play late-night shows, and they're like, they ain't gonna have you. | ||
| I was like, I don't give a fuck. | ||
| But do they mean anything anymore? | ||
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No. | |
| It used to be if you did, like, The Tonight Show. | ||
| But then once, it changed in, like, the 90s. | ||
| Like, it started going away in, like, the 90s and the 2000s. | ||
| They were telling me that the numbers that I, even, they're like, you can't do, obviously, those big talk shows. | ||
| But they're saying, you don't fucking, those numbers don't, it's not gonna move the needle. | ||
| It's better than nothing. | ||
| Your podcast is gonna move the needle a lot more than any fucking talk show. | ||
| I guarantee you that. | ||
| That's bizarre. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I hope I'm right. | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| But I'm almost positive. | ||
| I've heard it about books and other people's CDs. | ||
| I'm positive. | ||
| I'm positive I'm right. | ||
| And I know Stern's played it a couple times. | ||
| That shit's so much bigger than doing a fucking Tonight Show or whatever those shows are. | ||
| Which, listen, if I'm in town and they want me to play, I'll do it, but they can't have me on, so it doesn't matter. | ||
| Well, yeah, they can't have you on, and one of the problems with those shows is, like, say, you know, no offense to any of these guys, but say if Conan has someone on a show that's a band, I don't know how much input Conan has. | ||
| Or, like, maybe The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. | ||
| How much input does he have on what the guests are? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Letterman, I was told, was the one who really liked real country. | ||
| He was... | ||
| That was always the place where Isbell played there. | ||
| And Jason Isbell also is on an independent label. | ||
| It's hard for him to get on, but with Letterman giving the approval, he can get on. | ||
| So some of those guys have some power. | ||
| Jay Leno was talking to me about this, that he hated when he was doing this night show. | ||
| And he'd have to have some guy on from some TV show that he didn't give a fuck about. | ||
| And he had to pretend that he cared. | ||
| You'd think he'd be in a position to fucking... | ||
| Wasn't. | ||
| He was doing the most mainstream of mainstream shows. | ||
| But that's why. | ||
| It's because it was so mainstream. | ||
| He had to be right down the middle, non-offensive. | ||
| But now he's doing his own show. | ||
| He's doing that Jay Leno's Garage. | ||
| Have you ever seen that? | ||
| No. | ||
| Dude, you get to see what Jay Leno's like. | ||
| Jay Leno's a fucking great guy. | ||
| Isn't that weird that he was on my TV for 20 years and I don't know what he's like? | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| He was in here. | ||
| He did a podcast with us. | ||
| He was fucking hilarious. | ||
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I didn't hear him. | |
| He was talking about doing a show for the mob. | ||
| And he was talking about this mob. | ||
| Oh, I heard about it. | ||
| Jay Leno screamed. | ||
| You fucking... | ||
| It's bizarre, like, seeing him scream, you fucking cocksucker, like, whoa! | ||
| I remember hearing stories, you know, because I obviously have so many friends and musicians, like, who, they'll be playing a show, and they're like, oh, somebody canceled on the, this was years ago, canceled on The Tonight Show. | ||
| If you can get out to L.A. to play The Tonight Show, you can do the show in whatever. | ||
| And they crunch the numbers, and it costs, you see, it's not, you know, moving a band is so expensive. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they crunch the numbers, and it's like, It wasn't worth their money to play. | ||
| Like, how fucking crazy is that? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| When we become a band, a small band, and it's not worth the money to play The Tonight Show. | ||
| You won't get enough return on your money as far as iTunes sales. | ||
| They were saying that it was $40,000 to play because you're paying the musicians, the crew, the trucks, everything. | ||
| And driving all the way out there, it's like, you're not going to make $40,000 in record sales. | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
| In the old days, like you were saying, one play on that and you're playing arenas. | ||
| Yeah, I was talking to Paul Stanley about that when he was in here. | ||
| It was real weird talking to him because Paul Stanley, of course, was a huge superstar in the 70s, and it was all record sales. | ||
| And as a matter of fact, they couldn't get on the radio. | ||
| You know, Kiss had a really hard time being on the radio. | ||
| They were sort of kind of blackballed on the outside. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But just because of the love from their fans, they stayed valid. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And they sell them fucking lunchboxes and dolls. | ||
| But it was weird, man. | ||
| I mean, when I was a kid, like a Kiss song on the radio, like it was a moment to be excited. | ||
| Oh my God, they're playing Kiss. | ||
| I think the only one they ever played was Beth, which was weird because that was the drummer. | ||
| That was a big one. | ||
| But they played Detroit Rock City occasionally. | ||
| Or I Want to Rock and Roll All Night. | ||
| That they played, yeah. | ||
| They played that in Kentucky. | ||
| Detroit Rock City, I'd heard on the radio before, and I remember being blown away like, whoa. | ||
| But they're definitely not taken seriously, yeah. | ||
| No, they weren't taken seriously, but they're a fucking great rock and roll band. | ||
| By the way, isn't that the best fucking idea? | ||
| You become the biggest rock band ever, and then you put the makeup on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Go out and do whatever the fuck you want. | ||
| Nobody knew who they were. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I met Ace Freely when I was like... | ||
| Probably like, I was less than 10, somewhere in that area. | ||
| My uncle used to work for Howard Marks Advertising, which used to make all the album covers in New York City. | ||
| Oh, no way. | ||
| Yeah, and my uncle Vinny was an artist, and so he would, him and this guy Dennis that he worked with, would do these album covers for Kiss. | ||
| What album covers do you mean? | ||
| Like Destroyer. | ||
| Oh, that's a killer cover, man. | ||
| Oh, dude, like some of the all-time great ones. | ||
| They did Kiss Double Platinum. | ||
| So I would get advanced copies of this shit when I was a little kid. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I can't even imagine what getting an advanced copy of a record was. | ||
| Oh my god, it was insane. | ||
| I don't think I would have known what an advanced copy was. | ||
| You probably had to explain it. | ||
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Yeah, that one. | |
| Look at that fucking cover. | ||
| My uncle was involved with that, and he was involved with a couple other ones, man. | ||
| Is that the name? | ||
| There's a name there. | ||
| I don't know who the guy who did the painting was. | ||
| I think they hired someone to do the painting. | ||
| But what the advertising agency would do was design the inside of it, graphic design, put all the photos in place, and decide how the font would look and all that stuff. | ||
| It was really cool. | ||
| So when I was a kid, he would send me these posters. | ||
| My mom just had them recently. | ||
| When they had their solo albums, they all had an individual album. | ||
| I had the actual posters from their solo album. | ||
| I think each record was dedicated to the other three, right? | ||
| Well, was it? | ||
| I think on the back it was like, you know, it's like dedicated to Paul and Gene and, you know. | ||
| They had some creepy ass fucking songs. | ||
| Gene Simmons and Christine 16. But no, then it came back around and became, you know. | ||
| You gotta watch that shit now. | ||
| You gotta watch that shit now. | ||
| You couldn't have a song about a 16-year-old that you have to fuck? | ||
| Listen. | ||
| I've got to have you. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I got an idea for an album, too. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| I'm not gonna do that. | ||
| Don't say it. | ||
| Hold on, dude. | ||
| Just take a breath. | ||
| I know what you were gonna say. | ||
| You taught me out of it. | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
| There was a couple of good songs, though, from the solo albums. | ||
| Back in the New York Groove. | ||
| That was a good Ace Frehley song. | ||
| Oh, that was from his solo record? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Back in the New York Groove was an unheralded song. | ||
| I thought Ace's solo record was the best of the solo ones. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't remember them that well, but I remember liking that one the best. | ||
| I'd have to go back and listen to them again. | ||
| Remember they did a little disco for a while, like I Was Made For Loving You? | ||
| They went disco for a while. | ||
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You know what? | |
| People make fun of it. | ||
| I mean, looking back, it's kind of good. | ||
| That's a great song. | ||
| I love that song. | ||
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Ooh, yeah. | |
| All that disco shit that was so shitty, you listen to now, it sounds... | ||
| Everything, and looking back, it was like, now the music's gotten so shitty, I mean, BG sound fucking like the best band you ever heard. | ||
| Well, that's what's interesting, is I think they were unjustly criticized. | ||
| Like, if you listen to their style of music... | ||
| They had some really good songs. | ||
| The Bee Gees had some interesting songs. | ||
| I could name you... | ||
| I mean, I'm not gonna do it, but there's... | ||
| I can name you 20 killer Bee Gees songs. | ||
| And that's another thing, too, you know. | ||
| It's important. | ||
| It sounds like you're with me. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| You gotta listen to all kinds of music. | ||
| I love all kinds of music. | ||
| The people that make the shitty country that we were pointing out before... | ||
| All they listen to is pop country. | ||
| That's all they listen to. | ||
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People... | |
| I was reading an interview with Prince once, and he was... | ||
| I don't remember exactly what he said, but he was talking about how much he loved James Brown. | ||
| Later in the interview, he talks about Joni Mitchell, how much he loved Joni Mitchell. | ||
| That's how you become Prince. | ||
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Right. | |
| When you love James Brown and Joni Mitchell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's two completely different things, and then it comes out through Prince as some... | ||
| But if he only listened to James Brown, it'd just sound like a James Brown ripoff. | ||
| It's the other... | ||
| The folk music and the weird shit they listened to that made him such a fucking weird guy. | ||
| Yeah, man, I think music is a lot like everything else. | ||
| Like, I like variety in all kinds of different foods. | ||
| I like variety in art and architecture. | ||
| And I like variety in music. | ||
| It's interesting to hear, like, More Than A Woman. | ||
| That is a good fucking song. | ||
| That BG song. | ||
| That's a good goddamn... | ||
| And when you saw it in that movie, Saturday Night Fever, like, it's a great fucking song. | ||
| Try not dancing to stay alive. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| You know? | ||
| That's a good fucking song. | ||
| It's a great song. | ||
| That era, people were looking at that like, okay, we have this instead of Led Zeppelin. | ||
| This is what replaced The Doors. | ||
| Like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| And then you get older, you realize you can listen to both. | ||
| It's kind of what happened to, like I was talking about before with me and all my, he's like, when you got into rock, it's like, wait a second. | ||
| Waylon and John Lennon aren't that fucking far apart. | ||
| They're much closer together than what's playing on the radio right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Waylon used to play with Buddy Holly. | ||
| That's how he got his start. | ||
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No shit. | |
| Yeah, he started, I mean, it's the most famous story of all, but he was supposed to be on that plane. | ||
| Dwight Yoakam was probably the first guy that was a real country guy that I was a fan of. | ||
| I was a fan of Dwight. | ||
| He kind of crossed over a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, you know what happened? | ||
| He's a Kentucky boy as well. | ||
| A lot of great music from Kentucky, huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he, I always thought of him as a Kentucky guy, and he is, but he actually had to move to LA to make it. | ||
| He was in the punk scene out here. | ||
| Because back then, dressing like that, wearing the cowboy hat, and playing kind of old-style Buck Owens country was thought of as crazy as it... | ||
| I mean, he wasn't playing... | ||
| You know, punk music, but he was kind of an outsider. | ||
| That was thought of as a weird thing to be doing. | ||
| It seemed to me that what he was doing was like an ode to the classics. | ||
| You know, it's like he was a... | ||
| I thought he also put his own spin on it, too. | ||
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100%. | |
| 100%. | ||
| But it reminisced of really great country music of old. | ||
| He was obviously a huge fan of that music. | ||
| I feel like he was one of the first guys who... | ||
| Brought that old sound back, but kind of got some, you know, got airplay. | ||
| He got a lot of airplay. | ||
| Went mainstream with going back to the old guys. | ||
| Yeah, like that Ain't That Lonely Yet song. | ||
| Yeah, that got play. | ||
| And guitars, Cadillacs, and hillbilly music. | ||
| That was a huge hit. | ||
| Well, I guess that was the inspiration to track, too. | ||
| Beer, weed, coochies, and honky-tonk music. | ||
| But he was like a guy that you were allowed to like. | ||
| It's like you were allowed to like him as a country person. | ||
| It made you like a diverse... | ||
| Well, even then, you know, the 90s, like, you were talking about shit changing so fast. | ||
| Even the fucking, like, you look back at mainstream country in the 90s, it sounds like fucking raw field recordings compared to what we got out there right now. | ||
| Like, it's changed so much so fast that, like, actually, like, this is the kind of what mainstream Alan Jackson, Randy Travis, that shit sounds like fucking... | ||
| Like, down in the dirt. | ||
| Like, it sounds like blue, like a... | ||
| Gritty. | ||
| Yeah, it sounds like fucking Jugbang. | ||
| What has happened? | ||
| Like, could you imagine if Johnny Cash could watch those guys, like, throwing their fucking hands, those hip-hop hand signs, the perfectly coiffed outfits on, and buying jeans with rips already in them? | ||
| People always send me these memes. | ||
| Did you put that rip in? | ||
| No, this is ripped. | ||
| That's real? | ||
| I swear, I wasn't going to wear it. | ||
| No, I paid $100 for that. | ||
| People send me memes all the time of that shit. | ||
| That's what it's called. | ||
| They'll tell a picture of Waylon. | ||
| I don't know what it's called. | ||
| I've gotten a hundred of these. | ||
| I think I pissed there once. | ||
| And I've gotten that meme. | ||
| I've gotten a hundred of them. | ||
| See, you can find that. | ||
| But there's a hundred of those guys, like, you know, rolling in there. | ||
| People love making those. | ||
| Because there's an audience for that still, which is great. | ||
| Well, Shooter talked about, he had that song, They Should Outlaw You, that was specifically about that. | ||
| Like, these fake country guys. | ||
| Like, these especially fake outlaw guys. | ||
| About what his dad had to go through to make it in country. | ||
| Oh, fuck yeah. | ||
| His dad was a real pioneer and a rebel in a lot of ways. | ||
| He did whatever the fuck he wanted to do, and it worked. | ||
| And that sound became super popular. | ||
| You listen to Waylon Records now, the best shit, it sounds like it was recorded yesterday. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It hasn't aged a fucking day. | ||
| And his son, and Shooter's weird too, man, because he does all kinds of strange music. | ||
| His new album is... | ||
| Countach. | ||
| It's like almost electronic and it's fucking killer. | ||
| It's killer. | ||
| Well, he's another guy that just, wherever his fucking hair blows back. | ||
| One of my favorite guys is this guy, Billy Joe Shaver. | ||
| He's old now. | ||
| He wrote a lot of... | ||
| There's a Waylon album called Honky Tonk Heroes that Billy Joe Shaver wrote every song on. | ||
| It's my favorite Waylon record. | ||
| And Billy Joe's still around. | ||
| He just put out a new album last year and it's fucking great. | ||
| And... | ||
| The first song is a duet with Willie Nelson, and it's called Hard To Be An Outlaw. | ||
| And the song is Hard To Be An Outlaw When You Ain't Want It Anymore. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So it's him, who was actually part of the outlaw movement, which I'm not part of that. | ||
| I'm just here doing what I do. | ||
| What is the outlaw movement? | ||
| That was the 70s, when they were the equivalent of, you know, I don't know. | ||
| But you're kind of comedy. | ||
| To me, it's not even that funny. | ||
| I'm just singing like I see it. | ||
| I fight and fucking fart. | ||
| But it's funny. | ||
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It's obviously funny. | |
| Obviously, I'm laughing. | ||
| People are laughing at it. | ||
| I don't get mad when people laugh. | ||
| But it is very outlawed in a lot of ways by the method you're going about putting it out. | ||
| I can see how you don't want to claim it, because it's like an iconic name, like outlaw country, like those guys. | ||
| But those guys were... | ||
| That was when pop... | ||
| Well, that was when country music, which, by the way, that country on the radio then sounds, like I said, sounds great now, but it was a lot of strings and got really lush. | ||
| And then people like... | ||
| Willie moved out of Nashville, moved to Austin, started smoking weed and said, I'm going to do it my fucking way. | ||
| And that kind of thing. | ||
| And Waylon's like, you know, get the fucking strings out, get all this shit out. | ||
| I just want to play me, guitar, bass, drum, you know, just back to the basics. | ||
| So they were really pushing that envelope way more than anything I've ever done. | ||
| Does Nashville have any... | ||
| I mean, how much of Nashville is like real music and how much of Nashville is like pop now? | ||
| Like when you're there. | ||
| It's really... | ||
| It's so funny because... | ||
| Like I said, most of my family is from Nashville, so I went there all the time growing up. | ||
| And it was really almost not a ghost town, but it was just like a... | ||
| It had a small town feel, but you would see Crystal Gale or whoever it was on the streets. | ||
| It was the center of country music, but it was not a flashy town. | ||
| And now it's another Hollywood. | ||
| It's where people go. | ||
| It changed. | ||
| But it's real recent, right? | ||
| It's within the last... | ||
| I went... | ||
| There's a... | ||
| The Silver Lake, which is apparently the hip place here, the Silver Lake in Nashville is East Nashville. | ||
| I don't think I'd ever been there as a kid. | ||
| I don't think it was just slums. | ||
| And now you can't get a place there. | ||
| It's still fucking expensive. | ||
| So it's got gentrified. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| How many years ago did this happen? | ||
| If you bought a house there five years ago, you're fucking swimming in it right now. | ||
| Yeah, because I started going to Zaney's in Nashville as a comedy club. | ||
| I started going there, I just want to say, like maybe 10 years ago I started going there. | ||
| And I bet it was way different 10 years ago. | ||
| Way different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Way different. | ||
| I mean, these places now, like... | ||
| They have those spotlights that stream the sky, and they'll have, like, some fucking grand opening thing or some press release thing, and you'll see, like, these tour bosses and paparazzis, and, like, what is going on? | ||
| Well, that's the thing, too, is when I was a kid, you know, I had family who was friends with the country. | ||
| Not because they were in the business, just if you're in town, that's what a lot of people do. | ||
| There were never no fucking paparazzi. | ||
| I know people there, you know, when you got to, like... | ||
| Warn people where you're going, do this. | ||
| That's why I'm hoping people like Jason or Sturge will start moving there for the right kind of music. | ||
| There's got to be some that are doing that, right? | ||
| There are some, but... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| How many of them are these fucking quaffed-up bands with the hair gel? | ||
| Almost all. | ||
| I mean, like... | ||
| Wallet chains. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, but you hear it. | ||
| How many Sturgils come into your podcast, you know? | ||
| Well, Sturgils is a rare dude. | ||
| He's a rare... | ||
| As a shooter, they're rare guys, but... | ||
| But we're really naming... | ||
| Listen, there's way more of it than you think. | ||
| But those Jason Isbells and Sturgils and... | ||
| Don't, like, a guy like that... | ||
| When Sturgill puts out a CD, and then people find out about it, and people aspire, and then they want to be like that, and then it sort of gives birth to more people like that, or more people who can express themselves that way. | ||
| It's almost like Nirvana. | ||
| Remember when they came out, it's like, oh, fuck. | ||
| Fuck the old shit. | ||
| It's time for real rock and roll to come back. | ||
| They killed Poison. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But... | ||
| All that it ended up doing was bringing out a bunch of shitty Nirvana copycats. | ||
| There was a lot of that. | ||
| There was a lot of that. | ||
| And there's going to be a lot of Sturgill copycats coming out soon, and they're going to be doing it because they think it's going to sell, not because Sturgill did it, because he had something on his mind that he wanted to sing. | ||
| It's going to come out the wrong way. | ||
| Well, there's always going to be the guy that pretends to be the guy that you love. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And those are the ones who sell the records. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| Or host the TV shows, or do movies, or whatever. | ||
| Those are the guys that go, hmm, this guy's sort of inauthentic. | ||
| Something's going on. | ||
| But when someone is authentic, though, you can tell, right? | ||
| Can't you tell? | ||
| Sturgill, you can fucking tell. | ||
| Listen to that new A Sailor's Guide to Earth. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| That's the best record of the year by far. | ||
| It's fucking sensational. | ||
| And I'm saying that with mine right in front of me. | ||
| It's sensational. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| It's weird how it all flows together, too. | ||
| It's like, oof. | ||
| That's a magnum opus. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| Magnus? | ||
| No one would go into a studio and make a record like that, thinking that's going to sell. | ||
| He did it because he wanted to make it. | ||
| And he's got to have... | ||
| It's very rare that you're going to have a big company that sells records that has the wherewithal to let a guy like that go. | ||
| Just go do whatever you want, man. | ||
| I think he did it all. | ||
| I think he produced it himself and did everything. | ||
| I think he did it all himself. | ||
| Do you know Honey Honey? | ||
| He did it all himself. | ||
| Yeah, you know what's funny? | ||
| My first ever L.A. gig, the guy that produced my record, the band that came in right after I left was Honey Honey. | ||
| And they heard my record in the studio and they're like, next time you're in LA, why don't you open a show? | ||
| And I'm like... | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| So I played a few songs with them acoustics, and they came out in costume and backed me up for a couple songs, because they had the record, but it wasn't out yet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that was my first L.A. show ever. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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You're... | |
| Yeah, real good friends with them. | ||
| We've done a bunch of shows together. | ||
| Oh, no way. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| That was my first fucking L.A. show with Honey Honey. | ||
| Yeah, they did New Year's with me last year. | ||
| Oh, no way. | ||
| Yeah, we did New Year's at the Wiltern in L.A. How big is that? | ||
| It was... | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| That's big, though. | ||
| A couple thousand people. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, it was Joey Diaz. | ||
| Yeah, Honey Honey's last album was fucking great. | ||
| Ari and Duncan. | ||
| Yeah, it was awesome. | ||
| They were amazing. | ||
| They're really good, man. | ||
| And what is this? | ||
| That's them. | ||
| That's them backing me up. | ||
| Honey Honey engaging. | ||
| They have... | ||
| She has a beard on. | ||
| Yeah, I think that was a sign of things to come when people want to dress up in costume when they're on station. | ||
| They don't want to be seen. | ||
| I think I should have seen that as a possible sign that maybe I was doing was a little bit out there. | ||
| Well, what I was going to say about them was they have this song, and I used part of the song... | ||
| On the music for it with my Comedy Central special, the opening music. | ||
| That's all from them. | ||
| That's all their music. | ||
| And it's this song called Punk Kid. | ||
| And they can't put it out because they made it. | ||
| They spent all their own money making it. | ||
| But the record company wanted it. | ||
| And so, like, when the record company hired them to do a song, or do an album, they wanted the Punk Kid song, and they wanted it for free. | ||
| And they're like, no, but we spent all this money on that song. | ||
| This is our song. | ||
| We wrote it. | ||
| You can't own this. | ||
| Like, you can't own the song. | ||
| But they can't. | ||
| When they tried to, and they said no. | ||
| So that song is, like, out in the ether. | ||
| So they have to figure out what to do with that song. | ||
| They've got to hold onto it for a while. | ||
| I will say, I did learn, you know, being around the music business much ahead, I knew... | ||
| I'd heard all those stories. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's why I bought my, why I own my masters. | ||
| Like, you can't do fucking, you can't touch this. | ||
| They don't, you don't need them anymore. | ||
| If I'm quoting Hammer. | ||
| Well, you don't need them anymore. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Like, what we're talking about, about distribution. | ||
| You'll get more distribution from doing this show, or more people will hear about it from doing this show. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Oh, we're gonna find out. | ||
| Guarantee you. | ||
| It's going to be crazy. | ||
| And from doing mine and do Adam Carolla's and do everybody else's... | ||
| Yeah, someone said Carolla played it the other day, maybe. | ||
| Dude, all these guys will do it. | ||
| You can get on Joey Diaz. | ||
| Joey will have you on. | ||
| Ari will have you on. | ||
| Duncan. | ||
| Anybody who's around will have you on. | ||
| And people will hear about it. | ||
| This is the new... | ||
| It's a new time, man. | ||
| It's a new world. | ||
| They're not trying to... | ||
| I'm just happy that I'm here now, because like you said, 20 years ago, this album would not exist. | ||
| It would not exist. | ||
| But it exists. | ||
| Wheeler Walker. | ||
| Redneck shit. | ||
| Go get it. | ||
| Someone said it was the first album to chart on the country billboard charts with a bad word. | ||
| Really? | ||
| No country charts. | ||
| No country albums ever charted with a bad word in the title. | ||
| Redneck shit. | ||
| Eatin' pussy, kickin' ass. | ||
| That's one of my favorite songs, dude. | ||
| I'm not gonna lie. | ||
| That puts a smile on my face. | ||
| I'll be listening to this at the gym. | ||
| By the way, there's a download code in that, too. | ||
| Oh, there is? | ||
| Oh, okay, so you buy the vinyl, you get a download code? | ||
| Dude, I want to pay. | ||
| I want to buy it on iTunes. | ||
| I insist. | ||
| He's going to buy it, too. | ||
| Yeah, he's going to fucking buy it. | ||
| It's nine bucks. | ||
| Make him buy it. | ||
| How much does it cost? | ||
| Nine bucks? | ||
| That's what normal album costs, right, on iTunes? | ||
| Nine bucks? | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Whatever the normal item. | ||
| Sturgill had the number one song and the number one album last week. | ||
| Yeah, I think his album's... | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Number one. | ||
| Keep in mind, too, he spent half his time fucking taking motherfuckers out. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| I really don't think he's an assassin. | ||
| I think you should go to a doctor. | ||
| I'm telling you, you look just like Ben Hoffman, too. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| Well, like I said, someone said I look like Zach Galifianakis. | ||
| That person's an asshole. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense at all. | ||
| You're both handsome, but that's ridiculous. | ||
| It's just a beard thing. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Well, I would say someone said you look like Zach Galifianakis. | ||
| You have different color hair. | ||
| I think people just saw a beard. | ||
| People are stupid, right? | ||
| People see me doing this shit and they're just like, he can't be real. | ||
| So they're like, he's gotta be somebody. | ||
| Oh, that's it. | ||
| And then also that video of you with the fake mustache doesn't help. | ||
| That hurt thing, yeah. | ||
| It doesn't help. | ||
| Well, whatever. | ||
| Fuck him. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Fuck him if they can't take a joke, right? | ||
| WheelerWalkerJr.com, you fucks. | ||
| And go to iTunes. | ||
| Go pick this up. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| That was awesome. | ||
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| That was a blast, man. | ||
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It was a good time, man. | |
| It was a lot of fun. | ||
| I hope you had fun, because I did. | ||
| Eating pussy and kicking ass, folks. | ||
| We'll see you tomorrow. | ||
| Mwah! | ||
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How was it, dude? |
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