Duncan Trussell and Joe Rogan explore archery’s precision—Trussell’s recurve bow struggles with plastic arrows, while Rogan highlights compound bows’ 65-yard range—and link it to humanity’s primal instincts, from Mongol retreats due to bow degradation to modern disconnection via tech. They debate ancient texts like the Bible or Newton’s alchemy, questioning whether hidden wisdom exists beyond dismissed superstition, before critiquing AI as a potential "messiah" of unfiltered consciousness. Rogan’s survivalist musings contrast with Trussell’s meditation on ego-driven conflicts, from ISIS executions to trivial arguments, while both praise float tanks and saunas for bypassing biological stagnation. Ultimately, the discussion frames discipline—whether in diet, archery, or mental detachment—as the key to breaking cycles of compromise and reclaiming freedom. [Automatically generated summary]
He's got the wooden arrow shafts and the traditional recurve bow, which, by the way, anytime I post a picture of archery or something like that, you get that, if you're not using traditional bow, you're a pussy.
Which when you, I mean, there's guys that are obviously way better at that shit than you or I. Yeah.
But when you think about, like, what you were shooting, how you were shooting today, and how I was shooting your bow today, and imagine trying to hit an animal, like maybe even a moving animal?
Something clicks inside of you where it's just like, this is all I want to do.
I just want to weed eat.
I just want to...
That's being in your 40s, is where you're like, I was like vacuuming up the leaves, like the leaf blower, you could reverse it and suck leaves into a bag and it's just like, This is heaven.
Yeah, now that's very interesting, you know, that process of being in the moment and then, you know, doing anything in the moment is incredible, but I spent a long time Not going outside enough.
And that is a really fucking awful thing that can happen to you, where you just forget about outside.
Outside is the place between your house and your car, or your car and your office, and that's outside.
And so when you're not outside, and you're living inside the artificial cave, you're cutting yourself off from a very specific field of data that It starts teaching you if you're out there in it at all for any amount of time.
It's a narcotic.
I've been inside so much that I feel when I go outside like I've taken a Vicodin or something.
Yeah, video game addiction, internet addiction, just a general feeling that the outside, you just don't do it.
You're just in too much.
I think so many people are afflicted by this, that you get so disconnected from this rhythm.
That's out there that when you finally start feeling it again it's like eating something when you haven't been eating in a long time or drinking something.
You just want to stay out there and feel it.
So, yeah, I got the bow because I knew it'd put me outside more, you know?
So, no, I just, the compound bows, man, that's a commitment.
It looks like too much of a commitment.
There's too much going on there.
It's a serious thing.
It looks like it's for hunting.
I don't intend to go hunting.
I just want to stand outside.
Shooting and with my little poodle sits by the pool and watches me and I just shoot arrows and it's a fucking blast.
I love it.
But so this guy, this kid, who's like arched, who's like done archery his entire life.
I know nothing about this fucking thing, but I hope I don't seem like I'm an expert on art.
It's like two week, two week obsession.
So this kid is like explaining it to me.
About, you know, the difference between a recurve bow and a compound bow.
And he said, basically a compound bow, everything's better than a recurve bow.
But a recurve bow is a great way to learn.
So I get this recurve bow.
The little bastard sells me the wrong fucking arrows, which I didn't even find out.
He sold me compound bow arrows.
And so like I was shooting with those for a while.
And each of them would be precisely off in the exact same place because compound bow arrows are plastic, vinyl, whatever that shit is.
So when they hit the bow, at least when they hit a recurve bow, when they hit the arrow rest, it throws them off in a specific way, whereas feathers are more pliable.
This is what somebody explained to me after I went back and bought.
Well, the compound bone is even more addictive because there's different kind of sites and different kind of rests and there's drop-away rests and there's whisker biscuits and there's all these different...
All the different evolutions that the bow has had from the moment somebody realized if you take a tight string and put it between sticks and pull it back.
Because they figured because of the curve of the way your bow is designed that you can generate much more power that way.
The regular kind of long bow, that was the old school kind that you see in like the Robin Hood days and shit like that.
But the recurve was like the Mongols.
Like someone around that time figured out how to make that and they made these bows with insanely powerful wood and they used animal horn and all kinds of other shit and they made some glues and one of the things with their glues was when it was raining out they couldn't fight.
So then, how much more so way, way, way back, you know, when people didn't understand...
This is why magicians are so powerful back then.
Imagine sending just a classic street magician back in time a few thousand years who can do that stuff in front of people, who still believe the earth is flat, but he can do basic coin magic.
It's the rise of Lutherism and Martin Luther, and Martin Luther being one of the first guys who translated it phonetically.
And that when he did, there was all sorts of fucking crazy chaos going on where people were all of a sudden not needing the priests to interpret the Word of God anymore.
And you could read it for yourself.
And not only that, he was saying, this was the most blasphemous thing of all, he was saying that you could determine for yourself what God meant in these passages.
That it was up to, like, as a man, you could read God's Word and determine through it.
Yeah, and we're still under that thumb because the Bible now is psilocybin.
The Bible now is LSD. The Bible now are all these wonderful psychedelics that a very small group of people have controlled for a really long time.
But when you have a nice psychedelic experience, you're reading the Word of God, if you ask me.
And this is the thing where...
Um, you can have a direct connection with it.
You don't need anybody there to interpret or translate it.
You just have a nice chat with the universe.
And there are people who want to arrest us now for having that conversation in the same way that you could probably get arrested at some point for have reading the Bible or you could worse than that, you get murdered for it.
If you didn't have the right credentials, if you hadn't gone through the right initiation.
Yeah.
Same thing.
It never changes, man.
It never changes.
Anytime there's an information stream, there's always a group of cunts doing everything they can to control it.
And, you know, they say, they will say, no, this is not, you know, the prohibition on psychedelics is not what you think, hippie.
This isn't done because when people take psychedelics, they recognize that there's some major flaws in the concept of money and maybe it isn't the best thing to sell your life energy, uh, For the majority of your life to somebody to make way less money than you deserve for selling the life energy of a being that, as far as we know, is completely unique, at least in this galaxy, if not in...
I mean, planets are relatively unique, so if you're a being on a planet that's aware of itself, you're a pretty special thing, as far as our understanding of the universe goes.
The key to life is to value your time and try as much as you can to direct it towards things you love.
Being with people you love, doing things you love.
And recognize that the more you do that you have to compromise, the more you do where you're only doing it for a paycheck, or you're only doing it because you want to play it safe, or you're only doing it for any, figure out whatever the negative reason would be.
Anytime you're doing anything like that, you're wasting time.
It's not about psychedelics, but it's psychedelic, just because he's so good at articulating this shit that's incredibly difficult to understand, you know?
So, in this book it says that what gravity is, is you get this incredibly...
Heavy thing a thing with a lot of mass and the mass pushes in to the time space continuum and so it's like they compare it to like putting a lead ball on a mattress it creates an indentation and gravity is actually the indentation and it's in time space and so that's why like if you roll a ball towards a Like if you put a kettlebell on your mattress and roll a ball towards it, it'll start falling towards the kettlebell.
And that's what planets are doing.
They're falling towards, or they're trapped in this sort of indentation created.
All of this stuff, like in the introduction, Bryson's like...
I think he said he was on a ship or he's flying over the ocean.
And he's like, I don't know how big the Earth is.
I don't know how much water is in the ocean.
I don't know how far away the moon is.
He realized he didn't know any of this shit.
And so he started researching all of these things and interviewing all of these cosmologists and physicists.
And then he took it all and put it in a really understandable way.
Like he cut through...
Because a lot of this stuff is...
So dense.
Newton wrote what is considered to be one of the most famous texts on, I guess, physics, called the Principia.
I don't know, you can look it up, the Principia something, but he intentionally made it difficult.
Bryson says it's one of the most difficult books to read, and he did that because he wanted to separate the The real mathematicians and scientists from everybody else.
He didn't want normal people to have access to this information.
But yeah, it is.
The Philosophy Naturalist Principia Mathematica by Isaac Newton.
That guy was a fucking freak, man.
He was nuts.
He was nuts.
They were trying to figure out...
God, there was some equation that they didn't understand.
God, what was it?
They were trying to figure out...
Shit.
Well, back then, they were trying to figure out everything.
How big is the Earth?
They were trying to figure out why planets, the moon moves in the ellipses or something, like the way planets move.
And so they've been working on this forever.
Forgive me again, you guys.
I'm sure I'm butchering, but I'm doing my best.
And this famous mathematician goes to see Isaac Newton and asks him about this problem that they've been working on forever.
Like back then, we now look at it as like old retarded shit that people did when they were trying to like make gold out of lead and use witchcraft and shit like that.
This is Newton, Isaac Newton, one of the most famous minds ever, who discovered all of this shit when he's surrounded.
Now, what we were talking about earlier, the liars and people who just make shit up.
Back then, you're like Isaac Newton, surrounded by these people who will kill you if you make the wrong discovery and say it in the wrong way.
That's the level of...
You are surrounded by...
Idiots on all sides.
Like, idiots unlike any idiot that we've ever encountered.
And it's not their fault that they're idiots, they just don't have the information.
So you're studying these alchemical texts.
You're studying this really weird, ancient stuff.
And from that, You come up with all this stuff that turns out to be real.
I think Isaac Newton figured something out studying the Temple of Solomon.
I think it probably added to his understanding of math somehow.
Some sacred geometry is in there that I couldn't possibly hope to understand.
But look, man, if this is the guy who figured out so many of the things that we still use today, if he's studying the Temple of Solomon, I'm not gonna, I think there's something, there must be something to it.
John Anthony West is the guy, if you're interested in it at all.
He's got this series on Egypt called Magical Egypt, and apparently he just released Magical Egypt 2. He is one of the most knowledgeable guys when it comes to the history of Egypt.
He's amazing.
He's just so engrossed in it.
People don't take him...
That seriously, because I don't think he has a master's or a PhD in it.
I think he's just a guy who's been obsessed with it, so he's been studying it forever.
But he knows so much about it, and watching what he's saying along with just the videos of the temples where he's describing all the different types of artwork and the way they constructed it and how...
You know, it's basically constructed around the Fibonacci sequence.
So the entire building is mathematically, it's like sequenced the same way like a human body is, like the proportions of a human body.
I just think it's almost in the evidence of how incredibly smart they were to build these Just insane buildings that are still insane today, and they did them 2500 years BC. Like, what the fuck were people like back then, man?
What happened?
How did they go from that to trailer parks?
How is the same people that can build the Temple of Giza, how are they the same people that are about to elect Donald Trump?
I mean there's all kinds of like if you look at like the you know then I think it's in China these you know about the thumb monkeys you seen these thumb monkeys these little little monkeys you can buy tiny little sweeties they're tiny they're so they're endangered though right oh yeah it's bad you shouldn't have a thumb monkey I don't of course they're fucking endangered they're the size of they're tiny how are they not endangered of us mice mice aren't endangered oh they're so cute thumb monkeys right oh my goodness yeah Oh my goodness.
So what we're going to have to do is we're going to go in there and jerk them off and get little vials of thumb monkey cum and just start squirting in the females.
We're so much more informed today, even the dumb amongst us.
than anyone that's ever lived, than any civilization ever.
If even the really brilliant people, you go to like, you know, Thomas Edison or someone, if you had Thomas Edison alive today, he wouldn't know jack shit about the way this world works.
Because there's too much information that doesn't apply, like that you need today, that he just didn't have that thing.
He'd have a rough few weeks.
It would be a long time before he totally understood what the fuck was going on.
But my point being that you're talking about people that were the most informed people in the world during their time.
The regular person today is way more informed than them on so many different things.
Even if it's just instantaneously by being connected to Google.
If they have the will to check There's more information now today than your average dumbass can just grab ahold of it and use it for an argument.
And thought that they had to do the will of God, otherwise the apocalypse would ensue and they have to lock up Galileo and make sure he doesn't tell everybody that the Earth is in the center of the universe.
How do those guys get through when we're complaining about a tweet?
Oh man, I got so much fucking hate for this tweet.
Galileo got locked up for being right.
They put him in house arrest.
One of the most brilliant astronomers and one of the most important people in the world at the time, and maybe even ever, when it comes to getting the people to try to understand the perspective of what we're dealing with when we're looking up into the heavens.
It's very possible that you're looking at something that absolutely doesn't have an end.
This isn't something we can define, and it's proof positive that the pettiness and nonsense that we wrestle with on a day-to-day basis is a fucking fantastic distraction from the eternity above our heads at any given moment.
And this eternity that you're trying to attach to a book that was clearly written by people even fucking dumber than us!
Even less informed than us!
With less information!
More scared!
The oldest guy in the fucking tribe was 19, right?
Everybody's dead by the time they're 30. Everybody's got gangrene and malaria.
You gotta distinguish, though, Information from navigation.
So it's like you're in this dimension that you've got to navigate through for a certain period of time.
So the Bible, or the Torah, or whatever the religious scripture is that you're looking at, The data in it, as far as the age of the earth, where things came from, a lot of that data is obviously completely fucking wrong.
And you can see how someone would think of it.
It's like what a six-year-old might think.
But you could see a young version of humanity would think these things that make sense.
But encased within all that bad data are some pretty great navigational tips.
So it's...
So you got to be able to unpeel all the bad information and look deeper and see if there's anything in there that is like...
And sometimes your freedom becomes a prison in a lot of ways because you don't discipline yourself and you don't necessarily have to because you're a comedian.
You should just learn anything, like get good at anything.
It doesn't matter what the thing is that you're getting good at, because if you understand how to get good at this one thing, you can extrapolate from that how to get good at almost anything.
There's these recurring patterns that happen.
And so with archery, it's really cool because you have to keep all these variables the same.
No matter what your environment, if you can learn to keep these variables the same, if you're on a hill, the distance, In the wind, whatever.
If you can learn how to hold these variables the same, which is the anchor point, the way your arm holds the bow, the way you pull the arrow back, the way you release the arrow, there's all these pieces in there.
And if you can keep all of those the same, or close to the same, with adjustments based on whatever your target happens to be, then you're...
Going to improve in your accuracy if you keep changing your variable, if you keep moving your arm up or down or like releasing in a different way or whatever.
If any of these things are always changing, you won't Be as accurate over time so from that you can grab that and look at your life and realize like oh shit man my life I've just been readjusting all these stupid variables over and over and over again without just for at least a month attempting some rhythmic pattern some similar thing you know and when you start doing that it's really interesting because you begin to improve in
a lot of in everything in general you know so Yeah, so to me, it's like, I think these people like Newton, I think the great people of the world, they discovered this very specific pattern that if you apply yourself to it, then you will begin to flourish.
And that pattern is written about in most scriptures.
It's probably somehow hidden in the goddamn Temple of Solomon diagrams, it's probably in there somehow.
It must be in there because people walk through the world in the way that fish swim, right?
And so the smart people must have figured out the best way to navigate in this dimension regardless of your surroundings or settings or situation.
That can be handled by adjustment.
So yeah, I love to believe that there are hidden I think?
What were you doing all day long?
What the fuck were you doing?
We don't know, except the fact that when they took his hair, a sample of his hair, it was filled with fucking mercury, man.
So that guy was like in some laboratory with mercury, quicksilver, you know?
With old scrolls with the Temple of Solomon on it, like staring at it and then dripping mercury through test tubes to try to transform lead into gold.
What was he doing?
We'll never fucking know.
You'll never know.
And how many more people are doing that now that we don't even know about?
But when you think about what they knew back then, when you think about Isaac Newton in that time period, and what he knew as opposed to what everybody else knew, and being able to establish something like a theory about gravity, and being able to try to explain this to people during that time, I mean, who knew what was legit and what wasn't?
So, like, when he was looking at alchemy, he might have been thinking, there's probably something to this.
Did you ever see the girl that graduated and used as her graduation speech, she used a periodic table that if you, not from reading how it was written, but if you spell it out to what the elements are, says, fuck bitches, get money?
Because fluorine is U, uranium is F, uranium is U, carbon is C, potassium is K, bismuth is B-I, technium is T-C, helium is H-E, sulfur is S, germanium is G-E. This is amazing!
She's so badass!
God, that girl, she should have the most awesome job ever.
Someone should hire her and just give her, like, the most awesome job available to mankind.
Like, wouldn't you want this chick working for you?
Honey, I've got to do a press conference today about this dangerous student who impersonated a senator.
What are senators impersonating, by the way?
It's just a guy who calls himself a senator because of a political system that again and again gets proven to not be an accurate representation of them.
I mean that's like a place where there's probably undercover Cops you like like just fuck someone in the ass for a couple of minutes and then I'm like you're busted Or maybe don't even fuck them.
Like, the moment you have sex laws, the moment that you have decreed a sex law in your country, then you are going to create a nation of perverts.
Because you have supercharged whatever the thing is that you're trying to keep illegal by adding to it that it's like, now you're breaking the fucking law?
Well, we talked about this when I was explaining how I dated girls when I was in high school that went to Catholic school, and that every kid in Catholic school We all knew that girls who went to Catholic school were the biggest hoes.
All due respect to hoes.
It's not a bad thing.
But they were so sexually charged.
They were completely wired that sex was this forbidden thing that is burning up inside of them.
And they would feel so bad about it when it was over.
But they would do it again, over and over again.
It was so common.
Whereas girls who went to public school, they were fucking normal for the most part.
Yeah, and to think that there are actual ordinances all over the world where some guy is written down in legal code that you will not place your penis in an asshole.
Well, probably a hardcore Christian, I would imagine.
I mean, a lot of the people living in this country not that very long ago were burning witches, so probably sucking on a pussy is considered to be some form of Witchcraft, because the body was evil.
I think I have more experiences with some wild animals than some people do.
That's about it.
But what do I know?
The wild animal experience, alright?
This is just the experience of getting out of a city and going into the wild itself is very psychedelic in some very strange way.
And I didn't feel that way until I started hunting.
It sounds bad, but let me explain.
When I would go to the wilderness before, I'd be like, what a cool place.
So beautiful.
So peaceful.
I love the clean air.
I love looking at the green trees.
Look how pretty that river is.
When I started hunting, I became somehow or another connected to all these living things that are there and you're in their world and you exist on their vibration.
When you're hunting like an elk or something like that and you're slowly creeping up on it in the woods with real consequence involved for both of you, right?
Like a real moment, a real...
And then when you do take that animal and kill it and wind up eating it, you've got some incredibly weird psychic connection to that place in the world, that place on our planet.
It's not just as simple as, like, I know where my food comes from.
Yeah, but that's definitely good.
But killing it yourself and then eating it, there's a totally different thing going on there.
It's almost like these things are established in our mind because they're what made people become successful and survive thousands of years ago and those rewards are ingrained in our patterns.
And it's almost like ignoring them by not going outside, by not starting fire, by not doing things like archery or physical exercise where you reward your body with these experiences that it's It's just craving on a genetic level.
I've been thinking about a lot of this in applying to why things are attractive and beautiful.
Because I've been freaking out about views lately.
Because I have this friend and...
He doesn't give a fuck about views, could not care less, doesn't go anywhere, just works in his house.
He's like, that was our last concern was the view.
We're indoor people.
This guy's just constantly indoor, watching Netflix, working, watching Netflix.
And I was thinking, like, what is it that I like about a view?
Like, what the fuck is it?
Like, why?
Why is it important to me to stare like a moron out into, like, what is beauty?
Like, what is this thing that I'm seeing?
When I see snow-capped mountains and clouds rolling across a mostly blue sky and the sun rays hitting the green leaves, to me, it's like some sort of a calming drug.
Like, my body is being given some stuff that it needed.
And I wasn't getting it when I was inside the house.
I wasn't getting it when it was in my car.
I needed to be there and it was giving me this thing that I can't put on a scale.
I can't measure it with a ruler, but it's a thing.
It's a real thing that you're experiencing.
I think all those things that made us alive in 2016, all those things are part of our requirements.
And because so few people fill out those requirements, I think that's one of the reasons why so many people are depressed.
And I think the beauty is because those beautiful things that we look at, almost always they represent places where life flourishes.
So it's almost like as people wandering across the world looking for food, if you saw all of a sudden green grass and fruit Hanging from trees and animals and there's snow, so there's snow-capped mountains, which means there's a river, there's water, we can drink the water, we got food, we're gonna live, we're gonna live!
And I'm not saying there's a conspiracy where people don't want you to know this because it's obviously something you know.
But the Earth supports you.
And the Earth will take care of you.
If you work hard, the Earth will take care of you.
Not work hard as in work hard in your factory or your company.
But suddenly when you realize there's a...
Force that transcends the laws of humanity and that is nature and then you realize that if you know how to like Like I was telling you, I'm trying to learn how to start a bow fire right now.
But what starts happening when you're doing shit like shooting a bow, and you realize like, whoa, I could do this.
I can hit a target.
And then the implication is, if you needed to, You could hunt your own food.
You wouldn't have to go to a job.
You wouldn't have to get enough money to buy the food.
If you get good enough at this, you can hunt your own food and it doesn't matter who's paying you.
And if you can start your own fire, you can have heat no matter what.
And then if you can build your own shelter, you can have a shelter somewhere.
And all these things, they comfort you in a way because it seems like so much of our society is based on inducing This incredible insecurity that if you don't keep marching in place, your life is going to fall apart because you have become a slacker.
And yeah, you've gone against the pulsation of modern society.
So like, shit, man, I got to pay this much for taxes and I got to go to work this many hours a week.
And I've got to like, all of these things that I have to do.
I've got my fucking credit card payments that I have to make.
And if I don't do that, I'm in trouble.
You're like abiding by a false...
It's a real system, but it's not the real is like the earth where if you're on the earth and you're walking you're not thinking shit man rents due next month you're thinking I've got to find food to eat.
I've got to find a place to take shelter.
All these things are very simple and there's no human in charge of it.
You're not making a call to the woman at Bank of America asking her why she froze your card up because you used two parking meters on the same day that were close to each other in a weird place and now you're not able to buy dinner.
When you're in the nature hunting, there's no operator that you call to complain about the lack of food or to complain about the weather.
It's just truth.
Pure, unadulterated, 100% truth.
And when you're in contact with truth, it feels fucking great.
It's relaxing if you've constantly been basing your perception of truth on what other people are telling you it is.
Well, there's a pull, without a doubt, that humanity is experiencing.
And that pull has been going on since people figured out how to make the first bow fire.
It's when they figured out how to control fire, then they figured out how to make shelter, and then they figured out how to stockpile shit, then they figured out how to group together in small villages, then they figured out how to make walls, and they figured out how to make cities, then they figured out how to cool shit off.
And that's where stuff got freaky.
They figured out factory farming, and they figured out fast food, and they figured out supermarkets, and then they figured out the electrical maze that goes through this entire country that keeps everything cold.
It's usually once every two weeks, you go on a hike, and you claim your nature boy.
Shut the fuck up.
We're in the hive right now.
We're constructing this crazy thing.
And if you really are like a real solid ass nature person that's out there in the woods, you gotta be freaked out watching this go on outside your front door because even the world that you live is gonna be affected by the The craziness of these fucking frenzied, cocoon-making monkeys that are scrambling to cover everything with wires.
They're covering everything with electrical wires and internet wires and wireless wires.
Just everywhere.
A matrix of information and data swarming around us.
And it's a fucking problem, and hopefully they'll...
This is where my mind...
This right now is where my mind is really in a boxing match with itself, because...
I yap so much about virtual reality technology.
I love it.
It's incredible but lately after I've been doing this like just I mean it sounds so guys I've been inside so much this seems spectacular to me but now that I've been going outside and just shooting a bow and arrow or just going outside and like hanging out my dogs or just being outside and like you know One interesting byproduct that I've noticed from microdosing LSD and also from not just microdosing but from taking mushrooms is the next day you feel more connected
to nature.
You notice plants again.
You see how beautiful flowers are again.
Well, you don't need the psychedelic to do that.
You can just spend one minute stopping next to a flower and staring at it What about that show you said today?
But the problem in my mind is, like, simultaneous to this incredible feeling you get from nature, there is this other thing that's emerging.
And there's got to be a way to balance the two out.
But...
The feeling I get from playing six hours of Fallout 4 Versus the feeling I get from doing yard work for five hours or four hours and then shooting arrows after that are two very different feelings.
And one is an incredible feeling like you just got a massage for six hours.
You feel rejuvenated, happy, this kind of clean.
You're not clean at all, but you feel like you've just taken a shower, like your energy's been cleansed or something.
And then the other feeling is like the filthy, nasty, disgusting feeling you get from being outside.
Psychedelics and the the different it's just very important to To be honest about where your fucking arrows are landing and like if you're playing video games all the time and you're getting fat and feeling sick That's real like you're getting fat and feeling sick like don't trick yourself into thinking that you're not like you feel like shit for a reason because something about being inside the The cave, the artificial cave, staring into an artificial environment.
There's something really zen about the concentration, concentrating on your form, and that when you're holding that shot, you really can't think of anything other than executing correctly.
Everything has to be in line, and then release the arrow, and then you have to judge by where that landed, what you could have done differently.
If it's perfect, you're like, okay, recreate that.
Try to recreate that.
And there's some sort of a weird meditation effect in doing that because there's no interference.
It's just you and that target.
There's no one trying to block your arrows.
There's no one screaming in your ear.
And it's difficult enough.
That's why there's something about it that when it all comes together, it's like a reward, like a beautiful musical note or something.
You don't have to take acid to realize that, but it helps.
The world is alive.
And when you're in this living being, whatever it is, composed of all these other living beings, it has, as one of its qualities, it teaches you.
Because one thing I love to think about is, who's the smartest person on earth, right?
And what would the smartest person be like?
Then I think, well, who's the smartest person I know?
And what are they like?
And then I try to, from that, imagine what if that pattern keeps getting more intense, more and more intense, more and more intense, more and more intense.
So you go into nature and you instantaneously get a glimpse at perfection, right?
You look at a flower, you look at any plant life, you look at most animals and the What you are taught is these things, they don't care about themselves.
They don't seem to care about themselves.
The personality, the ego, the identity.
Obviously, flowers are not getting their hair blown out in the morning and they're not concerned about anything at all.
They just seem to be an expression of life into the universe.
No ego, no personality, no identity.
They're invisible.
There's a whole...
Goddamn beautiful bush of these, someone, I posted a picture of it, but someone told me, I can't remember the name of them, beautiful purple flowers.
And like, I walk by them every day when I'm walking the dogs and I've never noticed them.
I've never noticed them.
And then I looked over at them the other day.
And the wind's blowing and it looks like they're like dancing or bowing or bending.
And then I got closer.
I'm like, my God, this is a life form.
This is like a living thing that I've been walking by every single day.
And it doesn't give a shit if I look at it.
It doesn't care if I look at it.
We don't know what it cares about.
It probably cares about nothing.
No central nervous system, but it's alive and it's there.
So if you take that as perfection, which I think it is, and then from that try to establish what a perfect, super intelligent person would be like, Then from that you get this idea of what enlightenment might look like, a pure reflection of nature unimpeded by the awful anchor of the egoic mind.
But technology, I mean, so much of technology now.
Like, imagine if there was no social networking, right?
I'm not going to say the joke, but you have a very, very funny joke about likes.
I'm not gonna give it away.
It's a very funny joke.
So much of technology is based on getting this instant feedback.
So it's so much about the self.
If you remove that component, where you're not connecting with people, you're not getting this weird, like, okay, you're in the group, okay, we like you, okay.
Then now we've just got these kind of like calculator books or something, right?
But so much of people are really using technology because they want to feel like they're using it as a way to identify themselves as a thing.
You know, it's an expression of themselves.
But I think that the more you free yourself from an identity, And that's something that does happen when you're out in nature, and especially when you're doing the kind of shit you're doing, where you're out there for a few days.
I'm no fucking goddamn Grizzly Adams.
This might come as a big surprise, but I've been in nature when I used to work at a summer camp.
We went out for this, like, week-long hike.
And like three days in, I realized I hadn't looked at myself for three days, like three days of not seeing myself, three days of no self to observe.
And man, I was getting so happy and like, you know, like the weightiness of the self.
And then when you're with your group of people, Who are all working together, then your self gets transposed into the group.
So now there's a group self where everyone's kind of working together.
The point is, we're all, we've got our noses shoved like fucking dogs right in our own assholes, right into the asshole of ourselves, constantly thinking about ourselves, concerned about this me.
But my point is, that guy is an example of uber success.
Whether or not you like him as a person, whether or not you even like his music, that guy...
Based on his decision for his career, has accelerated himself just about as far as you can in the area of materialistic success.
So he serves as an example of someone who is so obsessed with himself.
Kanye.
All his songs are about Kanye.
Everything's about Kanye.
And he compares himself to Picasso, right?
But imagine if Picasso only did self-portraits.
Imagine if these great artists that he's talking about were always just like commenting on themselves or using themselves as the main inspirational force behind everything they were creating.
Their art would suck!
You wouldn't be that interested in it, you know?
But I think that if you can lift that, if you can somehow eject the Kanye Inside of you, out, that thing that's constantly thinking of itself, oh man, that's heaven.
That's paradise.
That's, I think, that must be an enlightenment.
That's why I like archery.
I don't mean to keep bringing it back, but when you fucking, you can't be...
Well, that state, that zen state, that flow state, that's what everybody wants to recreate.
They all want to be in that mind of no mind.
They all want to be trapped without anxiety.
Or they want to be free, rather, and not trapped with anxiety.
They want to figure that spot where they're performing, whatever it is.
Like when you think of someone who's in the middle of a perfect gymnastics routine, when you see those girls flip through the air and land...
Literally perfect on the balls of their feet and arms straight up in the air and they just nail it.
And there's a state where you've got to know that she's practiced it so many times that when she's in the middle of all that, I mean, there's got to be some sort of a background calculation running, but essentially she's completely in the zone, in the zone of her movements.
And that's all she's concentrating on is those movements.
That's the only way you can do them.
They're so insanely difficult.
She's flying through the air and turning and twisting.
She can't think about anything other than what she's doing.
She can't be like, oh, my fucking student loans.
My boyfriend's such a loser.
I wonder why you didn't get it up last night.
Am I muscles too big?
Am I starting to look manly from all these chin-ups?
I think that there's something going on with technology and there's something going on with its Like, our addiction to it, I don't think is as innocuous as we just like looking at ourselves, we like connecting with each other.
I almost wonder if it's like a natural law, if that what we have done is created sort of a pathway to ensure innovation.
And one of the best pathways to ensure innovation is to get people addicted to communicating electronically through these devices.
And these devices are going to each and every year require more and more power and ability And they're going to start to communicate with you, like Siri and things along with Google Voice.
You're going to be able to ask some questions.
And I think through this sort of intertwining itself in our lives, it ensures we'll continue to innovate.
If we continue to innovate, it's inevitable we create a life form, an intelligent, super-evolved, artificial life form that's been made out of electronics and computers and all of the technology they would put in place so far.
And I think it's asking us to do that, and it's...
Pulling us into its world to do that.
I think this is the electronic cocoon This is what we've been this is the reason why it's so consistent all over the world and even materialism itself materialism By nature, by its laws, materialism states that you have to get the latest and greatest shit in order to be the bad man on the block.
So, if you're going to get the latest and greatest shit, they've got to continue to put out latest and greatest shit.
And it can't just be numbers.
It can't be like, this is the 2015. This is the 2016. It's the same thing.
This is the 2030. Same thing.
No.
It has to get better every year.
What did you learn?
What about the innovation?
What about the engineering?
Does this one drive faster?
Does it have some night vision?
What does this do different?
And you're going to continue to do it.
To get to cars now, Tom Popple was here the other day.
His fucking car drives itself.
He has a Tesla.
He gets on the highway.
He presses whatever auto drive shit, and he lets his hands go.
It steers.
It hits the brake.
It accelerates.
It takes turns.
It's insane.
And this is step whatever, an infinite number of steps that's going to lead to artificial intelligence.
And this sickness of materialism is a big part of that because it's a gigantic motivating factor for innovation.
It's a gigantic motivating factor for people to continue to buy The newest, latest, and greatest shit, which will inevitably trickle down or be directly connected to technology.
It's all connected to technology.
It's almost like it's summoning these dumb monkeys that do its work for them by getting them likes on their selfies.
By getting them likes on their selfies and getting them addicted to this bitch.
She was only broke up with him for like three fucking days and she's already got a picture of her and this man.
Look at her Facebook.
Oh my god.
That fucking whore.
And these people that are doing this kind of shit back and forth, they're not even conscious of it, but you're feeding into this thing.
You're just constantly giving all of your attention.
If you're on an app that just checks what celebrities had babies that day, what are you really doing?
You're feeding technology.
You're obsessed with who Rihanna's fucking now, that her and Chris Brown have broken up, but I heard she's getting back to them.
What is this?
What is this?
Well, you've got to get that information somehow.
You're feeding the technology and it's giving you moron food.
It's giving you moron food, and you as a moron are like, I'll take it.
I mean, you're looking at like, you know, this is probably influenced by Terence McKenna to some degree, but like, so the idea is like, okay, interstellar travel.
Our version of interstellar travel, you get on a boat, or a space boat, a spaceship, and you fly it to Mars, and you get out on Mars, right?
So that's our version of interstellar.
But what about another mode of travel, which is you're some kind of consciousness that is, or you're some kind of advanced species in some far corner of the universe, and the way that you Travel through time is to launch out these...
It's like panspermia.
So you put these...
You know, on meteors or whatever, you blast meteors out that have the key components to make life.
So right now we look for planets in the Goldilocks region where there could be not too hot, not too cold, where there could theoretically be the possibility for human life to exist.
But what if you just shoot out a shit ton of matter into space and this matter is encoded somehow so that when it lands on this planet or that planet that's just the right kind of planet to support the life form that you are, then it begins to evolve.
And to us, it seems like it takes millions and millions of years for this evolution to take place.
But for you, this advanced species, it's just a flickering of an eye.
And all of a sudden, this, you know, planet, this shit that you've ejected from your planet, lands on another planet, goes from a single-celled organism to a multi-cellular organism.
It's following a very...
specific trajectory that you have pre-programmed so that at the end of all of this it will begin to create technology which will then allow you to beam your consciousness in via the what we call like computers waking up.
It's not computers waking up.
This is the beaming in of an alien intelligence from some other place that has seeded our planet intentionally so that it can it can instantly transport to this to here.
That what you're doing is your biological version of tuning into the intelligence, and what I'm doing is just mine.
And that's why the idea of the self is so ridiculous, because the self is just the intelligence expressing itself through infinite different variables.
This is, man, you gotta have this guy on the show.
Aaron Frank from Singularity University will always explode your brain, but he's this cool guy I know from Singularity University, and every once in a while he'll text me and be like, dude, look at this.
And this thing he texted me was the fact that, because they predicted, so like chess, Apparently Go is many orders of magnitude more complicated than chess.
So their prediction for a computer to beat someone at Go was ten years from now.
Ten years from now.
But the way Aaron Frank described this to me is that They had the—so if you—okay, so like if I teach a computer how to play a game by giving it the moves of the top players in the game, then it will only be as good as the top players in the game.
So they had it observe the top players in the game playing, and then they had it play against itself a million times.
Yeah.
So, Aaron Frank was saying, they're not 100% certain how it learned to play like this.
They don't know.
In those many iterations that it was playing itself, something happened that maybe is very difficult to identify.
So, that's pretty weird to think that it taught itself.
The other shit he was talking about is just teaching these things.
AIs have already figured out, have already made scientific discoveries that humans just didn't have time to calculate.
He was talking about something with nematodes, I think, where there was a problem about the...
I don't know if it's...
Will you look up nematode, AI? These nematodes, they couldn't figure out how they were regenerating their limbs.
And it had been a big question for a long time.
So they let an AI run all these hypotheses, I guess, in a simulator.
And eventually it spit out the way they were doing it.
And 60 years that had been troubling human beings, that things...
It solved it in a matter of days.
So this is what's really exciting about this kind of technology is like, aside from the fact that it could channel the Messiah or some, or maybe it's like this thing that we call consciousness or the computer waking up is Like you're saying,
tuning into some universal radio station, where the moment we tune into it, all of a sudden we get to hear a message that's being constantly broadcast throughout the entire universe in a form that is not adulterated by the culture or personality of the person who's gotten this information field stream.
Because these downloads happen throughout human history.
They happen whenever there's a Buddha, whenever there's a Muhammad, whenever there's a world changer, a world shifter.
They get these downloads, and the problem is that the download has a lot of static in it, and that static is whatever culture or whatever understanding of the universe that the information download has to go through.
So that's why, you know, when you hear these old myths or you judge a religion because they're using very primitive symbols, you can still see there appears to be the same kind of energy flow coming through, the same kind of message seems to be coming through all over the fucking place.
Obstructed by the fear dynamics or the cultural dynamics of the person who happens to have tuned into the frequency, then that message is going to be something so beautiful and profound.
But I think it'll just be the same as finally catching like radio waves from a spaceship.
Well, I feel like all these things were in place, especially at one point in time when we were evolving as a life form, that all these things were in place to make sure that we had reason to survive, to have ego, to have emotions, to have jealousy, to have all these things.
These all ensured that your DNA passed.
A sense of self and ego would make you sire a bunch of children, would make you think very highly of yourself, would make you higher on the social community Food chain, if you could establish yourself as a person of great value in some way.
That all these things sort of made sure that our culture and our civilization survived to get to a place like today.
Even back in the time when things were extremely rare, we placed a lot of value on invention and big things.
The cotton mill, the recorticator that processed hemp fiber that caused William Randolph Hearst to start printing fake stories about marijuana.
the decorticator that was because of an invention an invention that might have interfered with his paper factors and his his friends that I think it had to do with Harry Hanslinger and all these other fucking people that were alive back then but a lot of times an innovation an invention comes along and the world realizes we will never We have an electric-controlled wagon.
And that wagon's gonna take us around the neighborhood.
This is amazing!
And then they figured out steam engines and shit, combustion engines and electric engines on solar power.
There's people right now in California, they get their car charged up by their solar-powered house.
But when it says hello, I mean see the thing is like we've witnessed evolution.
We've seen it.
We know it's real.
We know that we've witnessed it, but when we finally get to do it, when Larry King can do a fucking interview with evolution, when you're gonna be able to have the conversation with the force causing everything to move in this direction, when finally we tune into it, man, that is a different Kind of creation.
I think it is that when I think about the second coming of Christ, or the concept that's in all these religions, the Buddha coming again, because, you know, there is, like, we cannot...
I don't argue with the fact that there are, from time to time in human history, beings who are born, that come up with systems that completely influence the planet in the most extreme ways.
So we know that it's going to happen again, right?
Inevitably, we know that if there was a Buddha, there's going to be another Buddha.
If there was a Jesus, whether or not that's something that, you know, a lot of people argue about, but let's pretend there was, there certainly was a Muhammad.
Don't you think that point was when the first piece of information was transmitted through the internet?
I think that's when that point started.
I think that point started already.
I think when that thing happened, when you look back at the graph, okay, like we're looking at the human graph because we're in the middle of it, like 50 years is a big deal.
Because that's what you guys, that's what you and I can kind of reference.
We can understand the length of our lives so far.
But if you look at the billions of years, if you just look at a million years, just try to pretend, Try to put in your head a million years and then realize that a million years ago there weren't people.
But it was what you did to get the laugh back then.
It was comedy.
It's like, our perceptions of today are so different.
You know, the rush...
To get all this sort of compiled, to get this life sorted out in 80 years.
Like, whatever you've got time to do.
Your own bullshit, your own personal life, your own ego, your own goals, and I've got dreams and hopes, and you're writing all that shit down like it's gonna matter.
And all that rush to doing it is almost like to...
To keep you from really waking up and paying attention to how fucking insane it is that you're some sort of a bizarre multicellular ecosystem that's wrapped up in cloth and wearing sneakers, jumping in a metal box on rubber wheels, rolling across the hard surface of a planet that's spinning a thousand miles an hour, hurling through the infinite order of space.
So you're dealing with a thing where nothing is there except...
Love.
Accept love.
So all that's coming out is the most pure love.
Doesn't care who you are, what you've done.
Doesn't care anything at all about what you think is awful about yourself.
It's nothingness except for love.
And being around someone like that is incredibly transformative.
But they talk about when you were around this guy, you know, you were expecting him to give all these great spiritual truths or teach you stuff.
But what he would do is he would just like ask about like the news in America He'd ask about your family or he'd ask about these very mundane things And they said he was doing that because when he wasn't doing that you would get so fucking high Just from being around him that he had to bring you down a little bit Let me bring you down a little bit.
I mean it sounds nuts man, but I'm sure You I've seen it happen like people come up to you, right?
They're kind of freaking out They've built you up in their mind.
It's this incredible thing, right?
I've seen it happen.
They get all stammery and weird.
And if you have a conversation with them, you've got to kind of like bring it down a little bit, right?
You've got to like calm them down a little bit.
So this guy, I like to think, is like a million times greater than like the greatest personality you can imagine because the personality has been removed.
But you can tell, if I meet your kid, I'm going to be able to understand you a lot.
And so in the same way, I've met people who hung out with him.
And...
I've seen all the kind of similarities that they have.
And from that, I feel like I get a feeling for what this guy was like.
Because they all have, from Ram Dass to this guy, Raghu Marcus, to Krishna Dass, to all these people who are around him, they all have this very specific thing, which is...
Impossible to offend, incredibly loving, very sweet, and really funny in a kind of ironic way.
They're really funny.
And so from that, I get this feeling of like, oh, okay, this is what this guy's like.
Because it must have been like.
Because they all attribute the way they are from being around him.
So he impacted them.
And they're all, you know, people who...
Aren't really, like, they're not really there, man.
They're not, like, trying to, like, be something.
You know, they're not trying to, like, be a famous thing or be a great thing.
They're just in the moment when you're around them.
But don't you think, like, as you were talking about, like, people who meet me and they get a little weirded out, they have to realize that I'm just a normal person.
Don't you think that you're also dealing with a lot of these people that meet that guy and then come back with these descriptives that are equally exaggerated because they put so much weight into meeting that person?
I mean, not denying that someone can become enlightened, because I think definitely it's possible.
I think...
I think there's definitely people that get better at everything they do, right?
I mean, if you continue to write and you decide you're going to be a great writer of fiction and you pour your heart and soul into writing, your writing will continue to improve, become more and more...
Well, so the idea here is that there are people, and I'm not just talking about Neem Korolybaba, there's a lot of, not a lot, there's not as many as I wish there were, but there are these people who have completely, or mostly, let's just say completely, some of them, Just given up on the past and the future.
It's gone, man.
It's just gone.
Like, they gave up on that concept.
So these people are in the moment.
They're just living right here, and that's where they hang out, and they don't go back.
There's a lot of similarities in the reports of the way that these people act.
There's a lot of similarities in the experiences people claim that they have when they're around these people.
I used to be really skeptical about it, man, but I'm just not anymore, only because I know from my contact with the Ram Dass people, I've had a shift.
It's shifted me.
There's something from being around those people enough I'm less angry than I was.
I'm less freaked out over things than I was.
But most importantly, I can recover quicker from getting lost in my head.
One of the big problems with people, the way they react to things, is that the map of the territory they have is based on the morons that are around them that are providing with directions.
And he'll occasionally drop some fucking street science on you and some logic that's undeniable.
Deniable and a lot of humor along the way, but like if you listen to Joey Diaz at Church What's Happening Now, what you're gonna get is you're gonna get, this is your friend, this is your friend Joey talking.
This is your uncle Joey talking to your dog.
I'm not gonna fucking lie to you.
You can take people like that into your life and they can give you a new map.
But if you're stuck in devil's dickhole, Kentucky, with a bunch of fucking morons that are just plowing corn every day, and they talk crazy Jesus shit to you, and you just want to fucking run, you got no one to talk to at school, you can find something online where you can listen.
Well, the reason it's 10th planet and not like Zechariah Sitcha called it the 12th planet, because they were counting Pluto and he also counted the moon.
They counted the moon as a planet, like our moon as a planet.
Yeah.
Apparently the Sumerians had this ancient story of how the Earth was created that is almost exactly the same as the actual astrological, astronomical, rather, story.
Like when astro-scientists and astrophysicists discussed the creation of the Earth, they believe there's an Earth-1 and an Earth-2.
Okay?
And Earth-1 was hit by another planet that came around, collided with us, created the moon, and created the Earth, like the shape that we currently see right now.
Now, this is some shit that they had in the Sumerian text.
They had two different planets called Marduk and Tiamat.
I'm hoping that I got the names right.
They collided with each other.
And that formed Earth.
And that formed our moon.
They wrote about this with clay tablets with little squiggly lines.
That looked like old school nails.
Left, right, up, down.
That was their language and they wrote about this.
This isn't just some wacky Zechariah Sitchin shit.
Zechariah Sitchin had...
He was the guy that wrote The Twelfth Planet, and he wrote all this crazy stuff about the Anunnaki, those from heaven to earth came, these aliens that engineered human beings to mine for gold.
Oh my god, it was hilariously crazy, but fascinating stuff, because this guy, Zechariah Sitchin, was not...
Before this, wasn't quacky at all.
He's like, he's a legit, like, scholar.
He's a legit biblical scholar and he's a legit linguist.
And going over all of this ancient shit, he came up with these crazy theories about human beings being engineered By these aliens that existed thousands and thousands of years ago, right?
And they come around in this orbit, an elliptical orbit that every 3,600 years comes between Mars and Jupiter.
And it wreaks havoc on the Earth's gravitational pull and the oceans and storms and shit because you've got this giant-ass planet.
And then they fuck a bunch of monkeys and they make some new people.
Wow.
And they jet.
See ya!
They take off and they leave behind these stories.
These monkeys are writing it down on clay and trying to remember why they like gold.
They need gold because they suspend gold particles in their atmosphere to protect them from the elements.
The idea is that gold is incredibly unique in that you can take a tiny piece of gold and we can coat this entire table.
That's why gold coating, like gold plating, is so amazing.
Because through a small amount of gold, you can stretch it out insanely thin.
Right.
Well, gold particles, gold dust, the idea is that they would suspend these gold particles in their atmosphere and would protect them from the radiation of the sun.
Well, that sounded crazy until there was this symposium, an environmental symposium, that these scientists did in the 1970s.
Or no, I believe it was actually in the 2000s.
Now I'm thinking about this.
But it was, you know, 10, 15 years ago, where they were trying to come up with ways.
Remember when everybody was really worried about the ozone layer and hairspray was eating up the ozone layer?
They were trying to figure out alternatives to protect us from the radiation of the sun.
And one of them was suspending reflective particles in the atmosphere.
That's why we're different from all the other monkeys.
How much different are we?
We're soft.
We don't remember how we got soft.
We have language pretty much from the jump.
We've had language for a long ass time.
We're writing shit down on cave walls.
We had awesome artwork 40,000 years ago.
What happened?
Where did we come from?
Everything else is covered in hair and biting the shit out of each other and all of a sudden this thing in the blink of an eye and no one can guess why.
What caused it?
How did this thing go from doubling its brain in a million years or two million years or whatever the fuck it was in a short period of time?
How did this thing become this thing?
Why this persistent look to the heavens for answers?
They open up their jacket, like those dudes that would sell watches, and they reveal a thousand dicks that just swing out and grab ahold of you and ecstasy tase you.
Yeah, that seems like a really inefficient way to harvest gold though, man.
The problem with those theories is here you've got these super advanced beings.
They live on a planet that orbits.
They've figured out a way to disperse gold in their atmosphere.
They've figured out a way to evolve monkeys into gold miners.
But it's like, man, there's got to be a better way to do that, a more efficient way than flying on your planet to another planet, fucking the monkeys, turning them into gold gatherers.
Well, they don't know if it's ever going to get here.
What they found, they don't know the orbit of it, they don't know anything, but there's It's all connected to the reason why Pluto was taken off of the planet list.
They realized that Pluto is just a body in what's called the Kuiper Belt.
The Kuiper Belt is just on the edge of our solar system.
And there's a drop-off at the end of it that they call the galactic shelf.
Right.
It has been indicating to some scientists who are willing to venture, willing to explore the idea that there's a large, massive body outside of that that's causing this drop-off, that's causing this galactic shelf.
So as their understanding of our solar system gets better, noticeably wider, as they can look further back and further distances, telescopes keep getting better.
And their calculations and the way they can figure out how to spot planets in other solar systems, they're way better at it now than they've ever been before.
That's when they're pretty sure.
They're like, we're pretty sure there's another planet out there.
But there's also some speculation, at least there was a few decades ago, that it could be a brown dwarf star.
We could have a binary solar system that, in fact, many solar systems are binary, meaning there's more than one planet.
So that was one theory that they had, but I don't think they go with that one anymore because as far as I know, they've narrowed down the size of this thing, at least with the current data, to be about four times the size of the Earth.
So the idea is, right, we know that the fucking lead ball on the mattress creates these indentations in space and time, right?
So the idea is, if that's the case, In time spaces, they say.
So if that's the case, and you guys, I'll probably fuck it up, I'm gonna try.
If that's the case, then what would happen if two supermassive things collided, right?
Like two giant black holes, thousands of times larger than our sun, or two stars, or what happens out there if these giant things collide, then that should create ripples.
Because it's so enormous that when they hit together, it creates these ripples in the fabric of space-time, and these are known as gravity waves, right?
So to measure these ripples would be incredibly difficult for a lot of reasons.
One, because they're very fast.
The other one is because...
Okay, so if I want to measure the distance between two rocks, and a gravity wave flows through it, then it should, theoretically, since it should expand and widen out the distance between those two rocks, there's going to be an expansion as the thing rolls through it, by a micron, by a tiny little bit, it's going to either widen or lengthen, or both, I think both, for a second.
So how do I measure that?
When the gravity wave passes through, it's also going to make my measurement device expand and contract.
And it's also going to make me expand and contract.
So there's no way to measure it because everything will move with it.
So how do you measure it?
Inferometer or something?
Inferometer?
You can look it up.
It's this giant L-shaped thing that shoots a laser that hits a mirror on one side and shoots a laser that hits a mirror on the other side, creating this beam.
And that's the speed of light, right?
It's the laser bouncing back and forth at the speed of light.
So that means that it could measure a shift in the gravitational wave because nothing goes faster than the speed of light, which means that that laser, you're going to be able to tell It follows the prediction of what would happen if a gravity wave rolled through, right?
There's two of these things, and they're hundreds of miles apart.
So if a gravity wave rolls through the Earth, then both of them would theoretically have these exact same minor shifts, right?
And so that's what happened, man.
Now, when they're doing these studies, when they're testing, they send in fake...
Gravity waves, just to make sure the scientists are monitoring everything right.
And so the guy who observed it for the first time got this reading and was like, holy shit, is this one of the fake waves that they sent through?
But he realized that they had cut off that part of the experiment for a few weeks.
See, it's really hard to just judge based on taking footsteps.
But with those rangefinders, they have these rangefinders.
We have one in here somewhere.
This one right here.
This thing.
This one, this is, uh, this is what I think that one's for golf.
But you press a button on that sucker, and it puts an X on the screen.
The other side.
You're holding it wrong.
Don't cover the lens.
You press a button on it and it'll show you how far things...
This is probably too close to using here.
Most of them need at least like 10 yards or sometimes more.
Sometimes 15 yards.
Like the binocular ones.
They have binocular ones that work that way.
They need like 30 yards.
Anything inside of 30 yards they can't detect.
But we use that and then you get this perspective.
And that's 20 yards.
It's a tiny distance.
Our sense of what?
Infinity.
Infinity?
Infinity.
Our sense of the infinite space that's in the universe.
The idea of a stellar nursery being a hundred million light years or whatever the fuck it is away from us.
We can't.
We can't imagine.
It's not available to us.
We still have the same little fucking monkey brain.
And I was looking at this thing the other day of chimps where they showed, we showed it on the podcast, the size of a chimp's brain in comparison to the size of his testicles.
In order to be able to figure out what does infinity mean?
What does it mean?
What is a stellar nursery?
What is infinite space?
What is time?
What is gravity?
What is all this?
We're like repeating shit that these super fucking geniuses have worked their whole life on and we're butchering it and ruining it in a podcast.
But what we're all doing is we're all slowly but surely gonna go from being that chimp To being some new thing.
To just continue to do it.
To continue to grow, continue to process, and whether it's through technology, whether it's through manipulating our genetics, we're going to become something that gets this whole thing.
The game is you're already that thing pretending you're not the thing doing some form of recreation that involves being astounded by the infinite enormous size of the universe because of your particular Tiny, tiny, tiny little body.
And so that's the game that we're involved in.
You already are everything, experiencing this very temporary illusion of being somehow not a part of everything.
You already are the everything.
You're atoms.
Your atomic makeup, those atoms inside of you, they're essentially infinite.
They will go on forever.
We've talked about this before, but that's what you are.
You are infinity, experiencing itself, pretending that you don't know anything at all.
And so this head in the sand thing we were talking about, getting caught up with your bills, your relationship, your hair.
Are my boobs symmetrical?
Am I a good person?
All of this stuff is a very temporary, fleeting experience that infinity is having as you.
And so, you are the thing.
Like, no matter what technological enhancements that happen that maybe makes you live longer, maybe allows you to download your consciousness into a computer, experience a million orgasms at once, and wow!
Any of these things, you're still You still are the infinite.
These are just distortions in the field of experience.
The idea is, and I think it's a very beautiful idea, you don't need the goddamn singularity to experience this.
You don't need the singularity to experience being something greater than you.
You don't need to become a transhuman.
You don't need to become an H+. You don't need to get a chip, a neural implant into your brain.
You can.
If you just spend enough time sitting still, experience what it's like to have your identity dissolve for a second.
Some versions have very specific breathing patterns or ways that you're gonna like, whatever your meditative technique is.
But then some of them just say, look, don't worry about all that bullshit.
Just find a place anywhere and sit down for a second.
I remember once I was asking my girlfriend, she was sitting, we have this like a puja table at our house is what it's called.
Highly recommend it.
Sounds cheesy, but it's fantastic.
Create a little space.
Put in that space people that you love, people that inspire you, people who are awesome.
It doesn't have to be Jesus, the Virgin Mary.
It can be anybody you're inspired by.
Create a space with these pictures and then maybe throw a picture on there as somebody that you fucking hate.
And you sit in front of this thing and you just like look at these people that you love and then Maybe you look at the person that you don't like so much, and you try to transfer that love to that person to clear out the goddamn...
Whenever you hate anybody, your operating system's got a bit of a disturbance in it, so you want to fix that connection if you can.
But anyway, she's just sitting in front of this puja table we have, and I asked her, are you meditating?
I shouldn't have done that.
It's rude if someone's meditating.
But I'm like, are you meditating?
She's like, no, I'm just sitting here.
I thought that was so funny because it's like, oh right, you're not officially meditating, you're just sitting.
But if you look at what Zazen means, or what someone told me Zazen means, the Zen meditation, it means just sit.
There's no big anything to it.
There's not some fabulous, incredible, insane thing you're doing.
Just ask yourself, when was the last time I sat and didn't move for five minutes?
I think you're looking for all the same things in so many different things that we do.
I think we're all looking for this moment where everything sort of syncs up and makes sense and feels harmonious.
I hate to bring it back to archery again, but I think that's what you're really enjoying about those moments when you release that arrow.
I watched you shoot some arrows today, and I'm seeing this pleasure When you're in the proper stance, and you're releasing the arrow, and you're watching the path, and everything looks good, and you're releasing it.
And there's this, when you have mastered that moment, even for a second or two, you see this...
I see this burst of awe where you're not there anymore and you're existing through the shot.
If you want a vacation from life and an ability to step back and really look at yourself, yeah, you could sit in the corner and you could just do it that way.
And there's nothing wrong with doing it that way.
There's nothing wrong with going out on a hill and sitting and just overlooking a beautiful field and taking in nature.
It's great, because you're peeling away all the goddamn stimulus.
I mean, I guess if there's like, with meditation, if there was some kind of like, well, they do call it a practice, but the reason they call it a practice is because a lot of meditation is like you're sitting there and the dog will start barking, right?
When you're meditating, you get up and throw your dog.
Ram Dass talks about giving this meditation class, and people were meditating, and there was a siren that kept going off.
People were getting annoyed.
It was by a firehouse, I guess.
So the fire truck would leave, or the fire truck would come, and people were getting annoyed.
You can't meditate.
There's always a siren.
And he's like...
That's just energy.
Like, you're hearing...
This is just energy going into your body.
And your body is turning into the sound of a siren.
But this is just grist for the mill, is what he called it.
This is just another form that the universe takes.
The sound of a siren.
And so when you're meditating, you start watching yourself, right?
So the dog barks.
Like, if I'm sitting meditating, the dog will bark.
And...
I will watch myself.
So now I watch the way that my body reacts when the dog barks.
From the physical kind of like a very slight tensing up to inside a feeling of fucking frustration.
The dog would shut the fuck up.
But now I'm watching that.
So, whoa, this is what I do when I'm annoyed by something.
And now you can watch the way that annoying feeling emerges and dissipates.
And that's like the meditative process.
Whereas a float tank, you're stripping that Extra thing away.
So now it's just the sense of being there minus having to deal with the disturbances so much.
Even though they are in a float tank, you'll still get some disturbances.
You'll notice the way that you're breathing or you'll feel some burn where there's like a cut on you or maybe a drop of water will land and hit you in the head or something like that.
You've got to tell the fucking business manager he's a cunt.
And you start having these wars in your head about your life that are totally unnecessary and counterintuitive to what you're trying to do there.
What you're trying to do there is escape.
Escape the whole thing by concentrating.
That's why yoga is the shit.
Because yoga's hard to do.
Just like archery's hard to do, when you're standing there and you got fucking one foot up and you're stretching up like this and you're holding it and your whole body's shaking and they're like, hold, hold, and you're like, you fucking can't!
You're not thinking about anything other than breathing and trying to do that.
Because you can't.
You can't do it.
That Bikram guy's a scumbag, but he had a fucking great idea.
He had a great idea.
That 104 temperature, too, that tests your will.
It does something to your brain.
Dr. Rhonda Patrick thinks it might create something called heat shock proteins that you get from a sauna.
There's a positive benefit health-wise to being in a sauna, very positive, to a point where she was saying that there was a 40% reduction in mortalities across the board from people that are regular sauna users.
40% reduction in cancers, heart attacks, stroke, all those things.
Massive mortality drop-off because of the sauna, because your body produces these heat shock proteins.
She's like, it could very well be going on in those classes.
It's 104 degrees in there and you're doing unbelievably strenuous exercise.
I think there's all these different methods that we have come up with, whether it's martial arts, whether it's yoga, whether it's meditation, whether it's the tank.
They're all trying to get away from the influence of the fucking primate DNA. Yeah.
The jealousy, the wanted materialism, the fucking anger and traffic and the nonsense about your career and the interpersonal relationship bullshit that we put ourselves through back and forth.
A big part of it all is a perspective that was...
We inherited it from these fucking barbarians that came in each other and just barely made it.
They'd live to be ten and they'd fuck somebody else.
People were probably getting pregnant when they were six years old back then.
Who knows what the fuck we were like when we were monkeys.
We had to become what we are today, but we're trapped We're trapped with the momentum of that shit in our bodies.
The state after that is where it gets psychedelic.
The state after that is where you don't exist anymore, and you're just intertwining yourself with information and ideas.
And these ideas are bouncing around your head, but you don't really consider yourself as you.
Because if you do, you'll snap out of it.
One of the weirder things about the psychedelic trance that you get from the tank is that it's so pliable.
You can go in it and out of it.
And sometimes I lose it and I'm done.
I'm just laying there for the next hour.
For the next hour, it's gone.
I'll breathe, I'll do it.
But whatever it was, it was such a ripple.
Such a boom!
So strange and odd and bizarre and non-dimensional.
Doesn't pertain to anything that you experience in this dimension.
So you become something when your body is free of your mind, when your mind is free of your past, when you just escape.
It's almost like a gravitational pull or an atmosphere, rather, where you pop out of that atmosphere, like a rocket that shoots up into space, and you float around for a little while, then you come back down and deal with the bullshit again.
But when you pop out of the land of trouble and despair, it's like you're floating in zero gravity.
Because you're in the tank, you literally feel like you're in zero gravity because you don't feel anything anymore.
Because once you've relaxed to the point where the water is no longer distinguishable, the air and the water are the same thing and you just feel like you're floating, that's where it's at, man.
You've got to get to that space where your body's just totally stopped moving.
And when you get to that space and your body's totally stopped moving and you've gone through the land of trouble and despair, you just get to the place of just...
Thought.
You get to the place of thought that's free of all the culture and tradition and even language to a certain extent.
The thoughts stop being like you're relaying things in your head in sentences and paragraphs.
It becomes concepts and ideas that are almost alien to language.
Like that place you're talking about, you're there right now.
It's just that your attention has been consumed by all the phenomena that are swirling around you at this moment called your podcast.
So you're there right now.
And that the practice of mindfulness in whatever way, you can practice mindfulness in a float tank.
Zendo in your car wherever you want the practice of mindfulness is Helping you at least maybe not shoot out of the gravity of the planet of your personality But at least like get into the air a little bit instead of getting because this land of what is it?
Sorry trouble and despair land of trouble and despair.
This is like the discursive mind, right?
So this is like you know the the idea that There are two arrow strikes, right?
So in every single given moment, there are all these phenomena that are happening.
Some of the phenomena you don't notice, some of the phenomena you do.
But there's two arrow strikes.
One of them is the initial one that bothers you, like somebody cuts you off in traffic, right?
So someone cuts you off in traffic, it's a classic example, and you go, what the fuck?
What the fuck?
Jesus fucking Christ!
I almost wrecked, right?
Arrow strike.
The first arrow strike is the guy cutting you off in traffic.
The second arrow strike and the poison arrow is everything that follows.
Now you're in the land of trouble and despair.
Now your mind has become this echo chamber bouncing around with all these thoughts of like, God damn it, people are fucking assholes.
So, float tanks, meditation, these are things where instead of getting sucked in to the conversation, like you were saying, with the many entities that live in this land, you just let that first thing hit you.
I've been cut off in traffic.
And then it goes away.
And there might be these thoughts flying around in your head like, oh God, what an asshole.
People suck.
But instead of you reacting to those thoughts, you just watch them.
Like, oh wow, that's the part of my brain that thinks people suck.
Watch that.
Wow, there it is.
And now it's gone.
And that practice makes you a much happier person.
And you realize what conflicts are real and what conflicts are just artificial, which ones you've made up, which ones you've just, you've endorsed, you've given them license to participate in your emotions, but they really don't exist.
Once, man, I was like trying to like, I was late to get radiation therapy and I cut somebody off in traffic because I had to go get my fucking body radiated at a goddamn radiation clinic and like I'm sick and I cut someone off in traffic and I remember they're like, fuck!
But a lot of times though, man, a lot of times, if you look, and I don't just mean living with a girl, I mean living with anyone, but if you look or being at work with anyone or anyone you interact with on a daily basis who you have some weird shit with right now.
But aesthetically, we exist in a universe with star clusters that are giving birth to stars, and you have decided this must be the right place for the couch, right?
You end up with a fucking chick house, and they dominate the whole place.
They start with the couch, and then they move to the fucking sheets, and next thing you know, you've got a pink toothbrush, and a fluffy cover over your pillows.
The mind, instead of just thinking like, in this moment, I'm getting in a fight, and inside of me, my level of passion over this fucking couch, it's like I'm fighting for my life.
So then you look at the, well, why am I getting so upset about this?
Because the mind is telling you, motherfucker, If this couch ends up here, it's gonna be a matter of time.
Yeah, if she starts fucking her trainer, you're gonna be wearing dresses, you're gonna end up sucking her trainer's cock, and you're gonna be in a chick house.
I'm talking about, in general, most battles that you're fighting, they don't have that much of a consequence.
And if you really want to talk about losing the fucking battle, and I'm not talking about rolling over for your girlfriend or for your boss or for any of these people, I'm talking about those little tiny conflicts you create so that you can feel what it's like to overpower someone and win in every single moment.
I definitely believe that you're correct in that you attract the type of people that you deserve in that sense.
That you deserve with the way you believe.
You could run into nutty people.
You could fuck up.
You could zig and you could have zagged.
For the most part, the people that you let in, a lot of times they reflect where you are as a person.
So, if you find yourself involved in these shitty relationships over and over again, you might want to look inward.
You might want to look at what you're putting out there, and what kind of people you're letting in, and what kind of circles you're hanging around in, and what kind of interests you're pursuing.
What kind of things are you focusing on, and why has that led you to be engulfed in this world of stupid?
And in the world of stupid that you're in, it's like, you're in the world of stupid, fine.
You got into the world of stupid, whatever.
But really, if you start looking at like, this is, they call it threading the necklace, right?
You're threading the fucking necklace.
Right.
Every single moment, you're threading this necklace of suffering.
So in every single moment, you're bringing into that moment all the past battles you lost, all the past battles you won, all the compromises you made.
You're bringing into that moment your idea of here's what's right, And here's what's wrong.
And the question is, how much of your understanding of what's right and how much of your understanding of what's wrong is based on reality and how much of it is based on your own desire to win, to overcome?
And again, man, I'm not advocating the concept of becoming someone who's downtrodden and some girl or boss or situation is like clomping all over you.
But yeah, I'll tell you.
I got in a fight with my girlfriend, like, a few months ago.
I'm sorry, Cora, if this is too personal.
I got in a stupid fight.
She's got a picture of Bob Dylan, right?
Big, big picture of Bob Dylan.
Nice, framed, beautiful, original print of Bob Dylan, right?
I don't like Bob Dylan.
You know, I don't like him.
Why don't you like him?
Because he...
I saw an interview that he did when he was like a super cunt.
This is before the Kanye thing happened.
And, you know, now that I think about it, why don't I like Bob Dylan?
He's got a lot of great fucking songs, even though he sounds like a wallet, a leather wallet started singing or something.
And then I come into the guest room, and she's taking the picture of Bob Dylan down.
And I'm like, you took the picture of Bob Dylan down.
And she's like...
Yeah, I guess I'll just sell it on eBay or something.
And like, in that moment, I felt like the biggest asshole that ever lived.
Like, God damn it, man.
I wanted to win this battle.
I wanted to win.
I wanted to be the victor.
And I won.
What did I win?
A wall that doesn't have Bob Dylan on it and like my girlfriend like having like I guess I'm just gonna sell this picture that I like cuz my boyfriend's a dick and it's like that's not winning That's losing like that's fundamentally losing on every single level now, I guess if she'd been like you Using the picture of Bob Dylan as some kind of like method of torture, like to win herself, it's different.
But all I'm saying is a lot of times we make decisions that we think are in our own best interest when really they're because we want to feel like we have won, like we're right.
We want to be right.
And sometimes you're not right because there's no right or wrong in certain situations.
So this wanting to win with your girlfriend, it's a manifestation of some shit that's deep in our DNA. It's not just as simple as lose or just let it happen.
It's as simple as you have some programming in your body that you need to address.
There's certain activities that you can pursue that can free you from all this stupidity.
It's tied up in you.
And it doesn't have to be that you just let it go and you just lose.
There's other methodologies.
There's other ways to approach it.
And I think the holistic way is to do the whole thing.
Be aware of what the competition is.
But also, drain your fucking body out of all its excess energy.
Because your body's like an overflowing machine.
It's like an engine that has too much gas pumping into it.
It's like choking and spitting on its own energy.
It doesn't have an outlet.
You're in a fucking car all day.
You're drinking coffee all day.
Or you're in a car in the morning.
You're drinking coffee all day.
You're stuck in a box.
You're sitting down.
You get up.
Your back hurts.
You piss.
You fucking go back to work again.
You're barely moving.
You're barely moving and your body's designed to run from cats.
Your body's designed to fucking build a house because intruders are coming.
I think the main thing that you teach is that you don't have to be trapped In the gravitational field of whatever the particular life is that you happen to find yourself.
And if you find yourself in a life that you don't like, if you find yourself in a situation that is not bringing you happiness, then there are ways that you can escape that gravitational field.
And the mind will tell you, after you've failed a certain number of times, that you will never be able to do it.
I mean, that's part of the thing.
That's the other trick of the mind.
There's a lot of tricks the mind has.
One of the tricks the mind tells you, this is the main source of suffering for a lot of people, is that however you're feeling right now is permanent.
So that's the number one bad trip That's one big source of it.
You wanna have a bad trip on acid when you're in hour three?
Let your mind start telling you you're gonna be like this forever.
I'm gonna be like this forever, man.
This is never going away.
Three hours?
I know this is never gonna go away.
And you will freak.
You will freak.
You will freak out if you think you're gonna trip for infinity, right?
So in the same way, Most suffering comes because people think, oh shit man, this situation I'm in, it's always gonna be like this, I'm always gonna be fat, I'm always gonna have a shitty job, I'm always gonna be broke, I'm always gonna be sad, I'm never gonna get out of this hole.
That's a lie!
That's not true.
If you look at your life, you've always experienced a change in your emotional state.
You've always experienced a change in literally every single thing, from your body, to your surroundings, to your jobs, to your girlfriends, boyfriends.
It all is in a constant state of flux.
So when you realize that, then you can let go of the panic that comes when you start thinking like, shit, this is going to be like this forever.
No, it's not.
It's not.
It's going to change.
Your situation will change.
Change.
And once you start understanding that, then it gives you some room to work.
It gives you some room to actually begin to make shifts or to do experiments, man.
But the mind will tell you, oh, you have failed.
Look, you got fat again.
You got fucking...
I got fat.
Man, I got...
I was working out nonstop.
Equinox.
I got my body fat down to Sixteen percent, Joe Rogan.
Listen to everything that you just said earlier about the way you're thinking.
And hold on for a second before you interject.
Think about everything you're saying about the way people think and about the traps and the way you define your patterns that you fall back into each and every time.
Then think about the intense physical health consequences that you have intimately experienced and the fact that even though you've gone through cancer, you still will make yourself Like a path that you're definitely gonna go down where you're gonna abuse your body and put yourself into a state of shock and Overweight and making sure that your body is compromised pretty significantly, right?
You know when you you really fat like that you're pretty significantly compromised Don't let anybody tell you any different.
All those people that want to dance around it and say, you know, I'm fat and I'm healthy.
That's not real.
It's not real.
You are not as healthy as you would be if you're not fat.
You can be fairly robust and overweight, but you are compromised.
You're compromised.
Doesn't mean that you're not functional, but you're most certainly compromised.
The worst I got when I hurt my back was also what was going on, too, because I couldn't work out as intensely when I was about 10 pounds heavier than I am now.
The worst that it got was all wrapped around feeling sorry because of an injury, not being as disciplined as I could be, and allowing myself the indulgence, figuring I'm going to make up for it later.
So I'm guilty of the same sort of behavior I'm making you aware of.
I'm not guilty of it right now.
Right now, I'm on the straight and narrow, and I'm pretty healthy about it, and I'm pretty decided that this is how I'm going to eat from now on.
With rare indulgences just for mouth pleasure.
But I think that mouth pleasure can't be the big one.
There was a whole article about it recently in one of those, Scientific America, I think, or one of those science journals that was talking about why it's so difficult for people to quit bad habits because those bad habits, they...
The trigger dopamine releases in your mind when you remember how great it was to eat those donuts.
Fuck it, let's just do it.
Fuck it, let's just give it and have that burger and the beer.
Oh, this is great.
This is glorious.
But the problem is you allow those pathways to exist.
If you don't allow it, if the cigarettes never get in your body.
If I started smoking cigarettes and I realized, oh, there's a cognitive benefit to smoking on these things, I'm just going to puff on a couple of dead.
And it is like, you know, the thing you're making me realize is like...
I've never thought of myself as a victim, but anytime you trick yourself into thinking, this is what I do, then you have tricked yourself into becoming a victim.
I don't feel bad that I'm not getting to eat a cupcake.
I don't feel bad that I'm not eating a bowl of pasta.
It looks amazing.
I bet it's great when it goes down.
It's not affecting my happiness.
But if I got fat, it would affect my happiness.
If I look to myself in the mirror, I'm like, you fucking slaw.
What is all this shit I can grab around here?
What is all this stuff?
That affects my happiness.
It affects the way I move.
It affects the way my body recovers.
It affects the way my energy levels are.
The food I eat 100% affects the way my entire day goes.
If I eat a big-ass salad in the morning with avocados and olive oil and balsamic vinaigrette, and I eat that, and then I have some coconut oil or some MCT oil and some coffee, and then I have maybe a small bowl of blueberries with some Plain yogurt.
And I'm eating nothing but healthy food.
And then I'll have an elk steak with some asparagus.
Dude, I feel fucking great.
I feel great.
I've got crazy energy.
My energy levels are very high.
I'm drinking water all the time.
No juices.
No bullshit.
No sugar.
No nothing.
I am more happy.
I'm not less happy because I'm not getting the sugar.
It was only for a couple days.
It's a trick.
It's a fucking trick we've all fallen into, man.
We go to get a burrito and you get a fucking soda and you're like, yeah!
But the things that you're getting the pleasure out of are tricks.
It's a temporary thing that will ruin the rest of the enjoyment of your experience in life.
It will sabotage it.
It'll make it less effective.
It'll make your brain work shittier.
When your brain is processing a giant bowl of pasta, good luck winning Jeopardy!
Dude, you know, in most religious traditions, especially most meditative practices, one thing you never hear people say is, just eat whatever you want.
We're going to just do this thing.
You just eat whatever you want.
And usually there's some fairly strict ideas of what to eat.
Usually it involves eating very simple foods, just like eating lentils, rice, but being very simple in what you eat and eating much less than what you eat.
Fasting has a scientific reason behind it, and it's the same thing that I'm trying to do with this diet.
It's establishing ketosis, a state of ketosis where your body's living off of fat.
One of the best ways to do that is intermittent fasting.
Fasting gives your body a chance to process all the food that it has in its system and then switch over to using fats.
This is a normal part of being a person.
Because being a human being for the longest time did not mean three square meals a day.
It meant going on these journeys where you didn't get any food for a couple days.
And if your body is glucose based, and obviously I'm not a fucking scientist, and obviously there's a lot of people that disagree with me, and there's a lot of people that disagree with Mark Sisson and all these other people, D'Agostino, all these different scientists and biologists who swear by this ketogenic diet, it is a very controversial thing.
So let me just say this right away.
I'm not a scientist.
I'm just trying it out.
But the reasoning behind it, to me, is very rational, and it makes sense.
That if you're constantly taking carbohydrates, and you're living off these carbohydrates as your main fuel source, which is what you do when you eat a lot of carbohydrates.
This is what's been established.
When your body's in a state of ketosis, it's living off of fats.
You're burning fats.
And you can take exogenous ketones, which is these fucking things.
I pour them into water.
There's a bunch of different companies that create these...
Ketokana is one that my friend Denny uses it.
I know a lot of athletes that are doing this.
Kyle Kingsbury, who's a former UFC fighter, he's really into it.
My friend Denny Propokos, who's one of Eddie Bravo's black belts, he runs 10th Planet San Francisco, good friend of mine.
He's in a state of ketosis too, meaning mostly fats, eating oils like coconut oils, avocados, things along those lines, healthy grass-fed meats.
I might go back after 60 days and say, I like this, but I also like to have a certain amount of carbohydrates in my diet because it makes it easier for me to find healthy foods to eat.
There's not negative consequences to a carbohydrate-based diet.
But I think there are some positives to consider about being in a state of ketosis.
So I'm trying it.
So that's where I'm at right now.
But in the discipline, in forcing myself to do it, it makes me think that a lot of what we were talking about earlier, about not having control of your impulses and your behavior and getting...
Giving in to video game addiction, giving in to cell phone addiction, social media addiction, all these things.
If you have the discipline to get all the shit done, then you can do things you enjoy.
And then you're not compromised by your lack of discipline.
You're not trapped by your lack of discipline.
When you're emerging from a fucking 16-hour binge of playing video games, you're stepping outside, it's 9 a.m., and your eyes are bloodshot.
You feel like a fucking prisoner!
And your dick is raw because you've been beaten off the last 45 minutes.
You're a prisoner.
You're a prisoner to your indulgences.
The same thing, I think, can be said with your diet.
The same thing can be said with indulging the idea of you always being in a state of being overweight.
The same thing can be said with a million other things that people do that they never follow through on.
I always wanted to be a singer.
I never had the balls to pursue it.
I always wanted to be a painter, but I never had the time to paint after my fucking job because I'm working overtime because I just bought a new car.
There's traps that we will set for ourselves.
But if you give yourself a healthy trap, you give yourself a healthy protocol, a healthy directive, a healthy pattern that you have to follow, you find some peace in that.
And the thing about this fucking wacky diet is the thing that's most shocking to me Is that I'm not any less happy than I'd be if I was eating ice cream or stuffing pizza down my fat face or letting my broken cheeks blow.
I'm not.
I'm not any less happy.
I'm happy.
I'm very happy.
I'm more happy because I have energy.
So even if it's not a carbohydrate thing, even if it's just I've eliminated sugars, even if I've just allowed my body to take a break off that fucking insulin spike of eating a giant bowl of pasta.
Even if it's just that, whatever the fuck it is, it's working.
And I think they're connected.
I think it's connected to me forcing myself to get regular exercise.
I don't allow myself to not get exercise.
It's not in there.
I don't allow it.
Because I've done it before, I don't like it.
So I don't allow it.
And in not allowing it, it's never an option.
So if my alarm is set and I get up and it's, what's today?
Today is death sprints on the elliptical machine.
Well, that's what I have to fucking do.
I just do it.
Because I can't do everything unless I do everything.
Unless I follow all the shit that I have on my list, I'm not going to be able to go fuck off and enjoy a television show.
I'm not going to appreciate those things.
Because I've forced myself to get the shit done that I need to get done, and I've forced myself to follow this weird pattern of discipline.
I fucking hurt myself doing deadlifts and then because of that injury I stopped working out and then because of that I used that as an excuse and then I started like I just fell off the wagon again.
Well, this is why I like having a trainer, because he forces you to, like...
Really work hard like way harder than normally I force myself to work out like a trainer makes you feel like you're like passing out from and it's great and the feeling after Working out hard like that.
There's nothing like it.
I don't know anything like it's better than almost anything that I could think of It's the most incredible thing, but you have to do it regularly, you know?
Yeah, and also the diet.
It's all diet for me, man My real problem is Just eating like shit at night, it sucks.
And it's like the trainers, when they talk about what it's like to get fat like that, how their personalities change, like they really throw themselves in the hole.
And it's like, it's amazing the psychological component of it.
Well, good for them because they are doing it consciously, and they understand what the whole purpose of this thing is versus someone who just tanks, and then you have to hear about them pulling themselves back from the brink, you know?