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Feb. 23, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #763 - Action Bronson
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action bronson
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joe rogan
yee-haw ladies and gentlemen yee Yee-fucking-haw.
That's what I have to say to everyone in America.
Dude, when you get to call yourself a name, like Action, like, how dare you, first of all?
How dare you be so bold that that's your name, Action?
action bronson
That's my name, man.
That's who I am.
That's who I was born.
joe rogan
How did you get this name, man?
action bronson
Listen, I'm just known to be doing things.
I'm just known for things.
joe rogan
It's just too cool.
It's too cool for a white person.
You know?
Dude, I've been watching your stuff on Vice, and first of all, what a great idea.
What a great idea to come up with that hashtag, Fuck That's Delicious.
action bronson
Thank you, man.
joe rogan
Because your Instagram picture is, it is one big Fuck That's Delicious.
action bronson
I know, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Your Instagram page, rather.
It's awesome.
action bronson
You wouldn't expect it from a rapper slash rapper.
Food, traveling, human being such as myself.
joe rogan
I would expect exactly that.
action bronson
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's exactly what I expect from you.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Good.
joe rogan
I think I've got you figured out.
action bronson
You put the thumb on me already?
Shit.
joe rogan
It's a good thing, though.
I'm a fan.
I like what you're doing.
Well, do you think that people try to define you?
Is that what it is?
It's like people look at you and they try to dismiss you, or what is it?
action bronson
I don't think they try to dismiss me, but I feel that people try to define you, of course.
joe rogan
Put you in a box, right?
action bronson
Of course, but I'm not the one that's ever to be put in a box.
There hasn't been any person like me ever, and probably, you know, there will be someone like me coming along, but...
joe rogan
Are you the white Kanye?
action bronson
Definitely.
I'm the...
I'm the slightly tan Ariana Slani, a.k.a.
Action Bronson.
joe rogan
So you're traveling around.
How many of these restaurants are you visiting?
How many of these shows are you doing for Vice?
action bronson
We already did eight episodes of the first season.
We got picked up for a second.
We're going to be doing 12 episodes for the second.
Shit.
I'm trying to sign a long-term deal.
Seven years, $138 million around there.
A couple of incentives.
joe rogan
Well, it's a great idea, man.
In the future, things like what you're getting on Vice.com or these YouTube pages, you can do your own show like that, and it can get gigantic.
It can get almost bigger than it could ever get on TV, because you can download it and watch it anytime you want.
action bronson
Well, that's the issue I'm having right now, because we've become such a global show that We're now on Vice's television network that is about to start on March 3rd.
I mean on February 29th called Viceland.
I have some quarrels about it, to tell you the truth, because it's only going to be in North America.
And, I mean, people are going to get what they want.
So, obviously, they're going to download it, tour it, whatever they're going to do.
But it's necessary for it to be on YouTube.
I stress that with every video that I ever do, it is totally necessary to be on YouTube because everyone needs access to it.
You can be right here.
You want to show me something, boom.
Type it right in.
You can show it to me.
We don't have to go...
To the TV, see what time it comes on.
You know, I know they have On Demand, but still, it's a fucking process.
It's easier.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's so universal.
action bronson
It's where everyone goes.
Yeah, it's like you wake up in the morning and you go to YouTube for some shit.
You listen to some music, you put a mix on, you watch some highlights for some shit.
joe rogan
Well, you have it in your TV now.
You know, if you have Apple TV, it's one of the apps.
It's just so easy to use.
action bronson
It's pretty much making TV obsolete.
joe rogan
Well, between that and Netflix and Hulu and all these different online providers, Where you can access it super easy now on your television.
And especially if you have one of those Apple TVs.
It's so easy to get...
And this is just...
What's it going to be like a decade from now, man?
I mean, you're going to be able to talk to your TV and say, Action Brunson.
And they'll just pull up...
What would you like to know?
You know?
I would like to listen to his best shit.
action bronson
That's right.
joe rogan
Bing!
action bronson
It'll be right there.
joe rogan
His best shit.
Yeah, I mean, it's going to be able to easily decipher what you're saying.
Because right now, they're pretty fucking good.
Have you, like, fucked with Siri at all and asked Siri questions?
action bronson
Yep.
I mean, it gets pretty next level.
This guy right here is like the tech guy, so...
I leave it to him.
There's like 7,000 apps and this shit and that.
It's fucking games all day long.
joe rogan
Do you have a flip phone?
action bronson
I did.
joe rogan
Did you really?
action bronson
My first phone was the StarTac.
joe rogan
I had one of those too.
action bronson
Motorola StarTac.
joe rogan
My friend Ari Shafir went back to the flip phone.
action bronson
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yep.
He's like, fuck all you people.
You're losing your mind.
action bronson
He's a smart dude.
joe rogan
He is right.
action bronson
He's right because I'm a fucking slave.
There's no doubt about that.
I go on.
I'm on Twitter.
When I wake up, I just put it on to see what the hell's going on.
It's upsetting.
joe rogan
Everybody's a slave to that thing.
That thing's monstrous.
But awesome.
unidentified
Right?
action bronson
It's incredible.
joe rogan
Well, the amount of data that you can just get...
On anything, instantly.
Tell me about kettlebells.
Tell me about airplane.
Who invented the first drone?
Just boom, and you just start going through all this.
action bronson
It's like a weird Chinese guy, probably.
joe rogan
Yeah, and we were talking about this yesterday, how a YouTube video now recommends and starts playing the next YouTube video.
You just sit there.
It's sort of like Netflix does with a series.
He'll just start playing the next one.
It's like, sit down, bitch.
Where are you going?
action bronson
You ain't going to eat.
Trapped you.
joe rogan
Playing automatically, like, playing for you.
And YouTube does that all the time now.
action bronson
Things related.
Things that are slightly related.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
You discuss...
I mean, just...
To make music using YouTube has become a pleasure.
It's a new age of digging in the crates.
You have to search pages for rare shit and make sure no one else has used it.
And it's like a never-ending catalog of musical talent from all over the globe.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
From the early opera singers.
action bronson
Shit, from...
joe rogan
You can listen to anything.
action bronson
From any...
They have, from the early 1900s, the first recordings somehow.
joe rogan
That's insane.
action bronson
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's insane to think that they figured out how to put sound on a black plastic disc that made it so awesome.
And they figured out how to do that when we were apes, you know?
I mean, people were, like, in comparison to today, like, the amount of technology they had then, this is like the early 1800s they figured out how to do that, right?
Like, what year was it they invented the phonograph record player?
Remember they used to have that big hoop?
action bronson
Yeah, the hoop.
joe rogan
The big, like, tuba?
action bronson
And you'd just fucking turn it.
joe rogan
And you would sit on it and the sound would come off the record through that tuba thing?
jamie vernon
Yeah, they had something before that I was looking up right now.
In 1877, Edison had this thing that they recorded on tinfoil.
I'll show you what it looks like.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
So when...
action bronson
I feel like we're...
jamie vernon
It's all cylinders.
There's a video from, like, Tech TV where some guy drops one and it's like an old viral video from the early 2000s.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
He dropped it and broke it?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, you fuckhead.
action bronson
What a fucking asshole.
unidentified
Wow.
action bronson
It's unbelievable.
jamie vernon
It says it's a cornet solo on a wax cylinder.
joe rogan
Well, if that was done today, I'd want my fucking money back.
I'd be like, you shitty audio engineer.
What did you keep your phone in your pocket and record it from there?
But listening to that, when you consider the time, it sounds amazing.
So what was the first phonograph?
What year was that invented?
Why do I feel like it was the 1800s?
Am I wrong, or is it way earlier than that?
jamie vernon
I think it was at the end of the 1800s.
joe rogan
The end of it.
They used to look so wild with that big tube thing that came out of it.
action bronson
But they haven't really figured out how to make it sound better than the record does.
joe rogan
No?
What is the difference?
Because some people say it's bullshit.
Some people say it's just fetishism.
And some people who are real audiophile type...
They all kind of agree there's like a different kind of sound.
action bronson
Well, what everyone explains to me and now I understand is a warmth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
There's a warmth to it.
You know, it's easier on the ear than, say, the electronic music and the digital shit of today.
It's a little bit more harsh.
The older stuff was toned better, and I don't know, just the plastic, the vinyl does something...
Something to it.
joe rogan
The people that are real, like, audio freaks all seem to agree on that, right?
action bronson
For sure.
There's something about tape.
Recording directly to two-inch tape.
Using this thing, this big machine.
Nowadays, we just go right into the computer through whatever, I don't know what the fuck, like an M-box or...
joe rogan
So Jamie, you're one of the people that doesn't think it makes so much of a difference, right?
jamie vernon
At this point, it's what you're hearing.
So people today are trained to hear things off of iPhones and iTunes, like MP3s.
That compression, we're used to hearing it.
So being told that something else sounds better...
It's like you're trying to tell them.
action bronson
It's all about the compression.
The compression makes everything sound full and smooth.
joe rogan
Is it possible it's a more familiar sound?
Is that why it's...
jamie vernon
Sort of, yeah.
They're even mixing things now.
You'll see it's mastered for iTunes.
It's mastered to be heard through those little two earbuds, not through a giant sound system at home, through giant speakers with subwoofers and whatnot.
action bronson
Absolutely correct.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Interesting.
action bronson
Everything is more personal now.
No one ever drives down the street anymore blasting the music.
What the fuck happened to that?
You know?
You used to go, when you got the car, you used to have to go and buy the humongous speakers to put in the bitch.
joe rogan
I think people started going deaf.
action bronson
Whatever.
Whatever.
joe rogan
If you're driving around with earplugs on and you're blasting music, it's kind of a douche move.
If it's so bad it hurts your ears, you have to put earplugs in?
action bronson
There's this guy in my neighborhood that just drives around every Sunday in a piece of shit Cadillac with a bow on the front, playing all types of Frankie Valli at the loudest volume that could possibly be and just singing along.
It's incredible.
It's his ritual every Sunday.
joe rogan
You really are right because it used to be like every stoplight you would hear...
You'd feel like your car vibrate.
Those people that go crazy with the subwoofers to the point where you feel it in the air around you.
action bronson
Fucking mirrors are rattling.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
I love it.
joe rogan
Do you love it?
action bronson
Nah, I don't.
unidentified
It's terrible.
action bronson
Have you ever been in a vehicle with the ship turned up all the way?
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
If you sit in the back seat where the subwoofer is, It feels like it's coming through your chest, like your fucking heart is about to explode with that bass.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Especially if you play like Dipset or something, like some sort of EDM, you know, like some crazy house music.
You literally go through a trance.
joe rogan
Well, you know what else went out?
Dudes with the crazy wagon rims.
Those wagon wheel rims.
action bronson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Everybody was like, how many potholes are we going to hit?
action bronson
Yeah, now the rims.
joe rogan
You can't have a 28 inch rim.
What the fuck is this?
These ridiculous rims.
Tires are like a piece of bubble gum.
action bronson
Yeah, yeah.
The run flats.
Thinnos.
I can't do it, man.
I got some Schmitts on my car.
joe rogan
What's a Schmitt?
action bronson
There's some German rims that you could fucking...
The tank could roll over them shits and they'll be alright.
You can literally drive the car without rubber wheels on it, just on the rims.
joe rogan
What?
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
What kind of wheels are these?
action bronson
They were Schmitts.
You could look them up.
unidentified
Wow.
action bronson
There's a Schmitt...
joe rogan
That's crazy.
action bronson
Yeah, some sort of...
joe rogan
You can drive them on the road?
action bronson
Yeah, those over there on the left.
Yep, those.
joe rogan
What kind of car do you have, man?
action bronson
A BMW Wagon 5 Series 95. That's a nice...
joe rogan
Those years are like the nicest years.
action bronson
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
BMW M5s and the 5 Series.
action bronson
I love those.
joe rogan
Doesn't Tony have one of those?
Hinchcliffe has one of those?
They say that like the 5 Series BMW from like...
There's like two eras.
Like there's the one they have now, the one they had before, and then the one they had before that.
And that's where you're at?
action bronson
Yeah, the 95 one is the one right before they change the body.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are like classic cars, man.
Tony has a 5 Series from there, and I have another friend who has a 3 Series from there.
Like, those cars were something special, man.
They just figured out a way to make them...
They handle so good.
They brake so good.
They're the right amount of weight.
They're not too heavy.
action bronson
Exactly.
joe rogan
You get, like, good movement with them.
And they're metal.
Yeah, look at that thing.
action bronson
They're fucking metal.
Exactly.
joe rogan
That's the M5 from that era.
action bronson
Yeah, it's a beauty.
unidentified
That's just...
joe rogan
That car was a piece of genius.
action bronson
That's a beauty, right?
joe rogan
There's a fucking crazy video that someone put out that I could barely watch, man.
It's some asshole in some other country.
I don't know what country he's in, but he's in an M5, one of those, that series, and he's driving through traffic.
Like a fucking maniac.
Like, you watch it, you just go, Jesus!
action bronson
You're holding onto the chair, right?
joe rogan
He burns it into the oncoming lane, cuts in front of people.
I mean, he is doing some fucking crazy shit really fast, but driving like a wizard.
Like, going around corners sideways.
He must be a race car driver.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
There's no way he's not a race car driver.
Oh, this is it.
Jesus Christ, Jamie!
How dare you!
This motherfucker is nuts.
Look at this.
action bronson
Damn.
joe rogan
Watch this.
Look at this.
action bronson
Oh, shit.
He's just drifting?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's drifting.
action bronson
Oh, that's a beauty, too.
joe rogan
He's going around people.
I mean, look how he's driving.
action bronson
Where is this?
joe rogan
This fucking guy's speeding while people are walking across the road, and he doesn't give a fuck.
Look at this.
Oncoming.
Doesn't give a fuck.
This guy is fucking crazy.
action bronson
Look at this shit.
unidentified
He's out of his mind.
action bronson
He's killing it.
joe rogan
Look at this.
action bronson
Where is this?
Austria?
joe rogan
I don't know where it is.
They have those crazy long European license plates, though.
But look at the way this motherfucker drives!
What is this, Jamie?
It's for people if they want to watch it.
BMW M5, need4drive.com, last illegal street racing and drift driver, Giorgio Tevzadzi.
action bronson
Oh, yeah, he just died.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Did he?
action bronson
Yeah, he just died, I think.
He just did some crazy shit in the whip.
He died in this car, actually.
joe rogan
Come on.
action bronson
Check it out.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
action bronson
I think it's R.I.P. Giorgio.
joe rogan
How do you say his name again?
Giorgio Tevzadzi.
Tevzadzi.
Yeah, Giorgio Tevzadzi.
action bronson
I think he's dead.
R.I.P. There he is.
I saw he died in the Burgundy Beamer.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
He died in the Burgundy M5. Infamous BMW street drifter dies in crash.
action bronson
Outside the Barclays?
Oh no.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
He was 26 years old.
action bronson
Yep.
joe rogan
What a nut, man.
Wow, he wasn't Those driver appears to be fine.
action bronson
Oh, he wasn't driving.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
That is ironic.
No, it's not.
That's like a Lance Morissette ironic.
Isn't it ironic?
That's not ironic.
But it's kind of fucked.
You know, like, Kinnison was killed by a drunk driver.
And Kinnison used to have those bits about drinking and driving.
You know, they were We're gonna do it!
We're gonna drink!
We're gonna drive!
We're gonna pull it off!
You know what?
unidentified
We do it every fucking night!
joe rogan
The crowd would go crazy and people would get so mad.
They were like, this guy is encouraging drunk driving.
Like, what the fuck?
And then, boom, he gets killed by a drunk driver.
action bronson
Fucking karma.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know if karma's real, but God damn, there's a lot of evidence out there.
action bronson
You know, it's just a saying.
You know, one of those things, like I swear to God, it ain't real, but it's one of those things, like an American slang word.
joe rogan
Karma is a motherfucker, though.
It is.
And that statement, karma is a motherfucker, is one of the best statements.
As far as when shit goes down like that, you're like, man.
But, you know...
Nobody wishes that on somebody.
Especially if you're a driver and you're like...
He's probably like, bitch, this would have never happened if I was at the wheel.
action bronson
Never.
Fucking Georgie.
joe rogan
The way that guy drived?
That was insane.
I mean, it's horrific to watch.
Definitely shouldn't be allowed to do it.
action bronson
What about the videos...
Of the fucking Russian dudes climbing the buildings.
joe rogan
I was just gonna say something about that.
Some new dude.
I put one up on my Instagram page.
I put like two of them in a row.
They were fucking freaking me out.
And this dude contacted me through Twitter and said hi.
His stunts are...
He's insane.
And he's got YouTube videos of these things too.
They're insane.
He's on like the Eiffel Tower or some shit, right?
action bronson
Oh, I saw that one.
joe rogan
Is that in Paris that he's on the top of that tower?
He's insane.
action bronson
It makes your fucking palms sweat.
Oh my god.
It's like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Dude, it makes every fucking cell on your body just starts vibrating like, get away from the head!
action bronson
Get away!
It's heavy.
joe rogan
I don't get that, man.
action bronson
If I was in that shape, I probably would try it too.
joe rogan
Would you really?
action bronson
Yeah, but they're in crazy shape.
You see them doing pull-ups and...
joe rogan
Look at this.
action bronson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Oh, this is in New York, I guess?
Is this New York?
Dubai?
action bronson
Yeah, it looks like Dubai.
joe rogan
Oh my god, look at the edge.
This is not good.
jamie vernon
James Kingston's his name.
joe rogan
He's crazy.
action bronson
American dude?
joe rogan
You know what a guy like this?
I would just like for him to just retire right now.
Look, he did it.
Congratulations.
Let's not keep doing this.
Let's just not keep doing this.
action bronson
Look at this fuck.
joe rogan
Oh my God, look at this dude.
Oh my God, he's doing chin-ups on this thing.
Oh my God, he's one-handing it.
Dude, please stop.
I can't do this.
I can't do this.
Oh fucking Christ.
Oh my god.
unidentified
Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude.
joe rogan
Okay.
For people who are...
The description is like...
The James Kingston on Instagram.
That's his page.
And I... Don't feel so good.
action bronson
The way he was holding on the floor was a thick-ass bar.
joe rogan
He's with one arm.
He's hanging with one arm.
He's like a mile in the sky.
Dude, stop it, Jamie.
unidentified
Stop it.
action bronson
I can't do it.
Stop.
unidentified
Cut it off.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
action bronson
Flat-footed?
unidentified
Word?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
He just jumped from one building to another.
Look at this.
action bronson
Not even a running start.
joe rogan
This is insane.
That is insane.
How does he do that?
Like, I would splatter.
I would never make it that far.
How's he making it that far?
action bronson
He had some good thrust.
The momentum and the thrust.
joe rogan
But that seems like an insane amount of distance to travel, doesn't it?
How the fuck does he judge that?
How does he jump and land like that?
You got a crazier one?
Look at Jamie's face.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Oh, there's no way.
He just jumps across a building.
How is that possible, man?
How is that possible?
action bronson
And this is one of his favorite jumps in the city, apparently.
unidentified
Come on, son.
joe rogan
You know, like, this doesn't make any sense.
action bronson
At the end of the day, man.
joe rogan
How is that possible?
action bronson
If I could, I would.
jamie vernon
It's like when skateboarding, like, once Tony Hawk does the 900, once you see it done, everyone else can just start doing it.
joe rogan
But I just look, I'm shocked by the distance he's covering.
I guess what's going on is the distance of one building, it's far away, but it's also higher.
So in his leap, if he gets a good spring, his arc will carry him over.
But he's got to judge that perfectly.
There's no room for error whatsoever.
This is what it looks like sideways?
action bronson
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Look how far he's jumping, man.
That's insane.
That's an insane amount of space he's covering when he lands on that edge.
Like, that kid, he must be like, I mean, I don't know how much he weighs, but he must be insanely strong for his weight, and he can just throw his body through the air like that.
He must have just a ridiculous explosion out of his legs.
action bronson
And then land so lightly?
joe rogan
That's freakish.
action bronson
Shit.
joe rogan
I guess it's those things, like if you just concentrate on only doing that, you can do it in a way that doesn't make sense to someone like you, or me, or, you know...
I can't even ice-skate.
action bronson
Are you serious?
joe rogan
I can't ice-skate at all.
action bronson
What the fuck?
I can ice skate incredibly, man.
I'm fucking 285 on a good day.
joe rogan
First of all, I can't find shoot when I don't have my own ice skates, so I have to rent ice skates.
It's for the same reason why I couldn't ski for years.
action bronson
The rentals are fucking shitty.
joe rogan
Well, it's not even just that.
My feet are too wide.
So if I had a regular size 11, my feet...
Someone in my background fucked a monkey.
I don't know when it was.
action bronson
Big fucking Bigfoot foot.
joe rogan
A long time ago.
Like when you shouldn't be able to fuck monkeys anymore, someone just went back in for one more shot and fucked a monkey.
Guaranteed.
It was like the last call for evolution.
And one of my ancestors just snuck back in and got one more nut off.
But...
My feet are just too wide.
So I get in those things.
I'm just in agony.
And I just never learn how.
And I'm not going to...
It's not interesting enough for me to go out and buy ice skates.
You know, if I was like, this is it.
This is something I have to conquer.
Then I would have to learn how to ice skate.
action bronson
It was much more exciting as a youth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
Fucking roller...
Like, not rollerblading.
Fucking ice skating to Green Day.
Shit like that.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's right.
They play loud music and you spin around the ice.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
See, I guess hockey would be the reason to do it.
Like, if you wanted to learn how to play hockey.
action bronson
Well, I'm saying you pretend you're doing hockey moves, you know, like you're on the ice, snowing, when you're stopping, you throw the snow at people, you know the shh.
joe rogan
Right.
That's a cool move.
action bronson
Yeah, exactly.
So it's like, you wear the hockey skates, you definitely don't wear the figure skating ones.
unidentified
Mmm.
action bronson
No chance.
joe rogan
No, you don't.
What's the difference?
action bronson
Well, they have the spikes in the front so you can do the triple toe lutz.
joe rogan
Mmm.
You don't want anybody seeing your spikes.
action bronson
When you go straight, you have to lift a little bit and you're gonna fall on your face.
The hockey is a little curvature like a running shoe.
joe rogan
Mmm.
action bronson
It just allows you to maneuver through the ice.
joe rogan
So it allows you to maneuver better, but it doesn't allow you to do tricks.
action bronson
You can't do a stop and then triple toe lutz or like a Scott Hamilton flip.
joe rogan
So are they doing flips when they do those spins on the ice?
Are they doing them with like special skates?
Is that what the deal is?
action bronson
For sure.
Brian Boitano.
joe rogan
Do you remember South Park?
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
What would Brian Boitano do?
Oh my God.
action bronson
Love it.
joe rogan
That was like one of their first episodes, right?
Was it their first one?
God, that was funny, man.
That was going around as a VHS tape back in the day.
That was one of those things where a buddy of mine said, you have to see this.
Check this out.
These guys made this video.
It was Jesus and Brian Boitano, right?
action bronson
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Who else was in it?
jamie vernon
Santa.
joe rogan
Santa, that's right.
Whatever it was, it was fucking hilarious.
And it was way before its time, you know?
What was the year the first South Park tape was made?
When you find out how long those guys have been around...
jamie vernon
This was made in 1992. Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Dude.
They've been killing it since 92. 92. Southpaw came out in 92?
jamie vernon
Well, no.
The Spirit of Christmas is what that was called.
I think that show came out in like 97. Okay, yeah.
joe rogan
Did it come out that much later?
Really?
jamie vernon
I think so.
joe rogan
God, it was so funny.
Maybe 96. I must have got it after.
If they did it in 92, I didn't move here until 94, and I know that I got it when I was living in Encino, because I remember popping it in when a friend came over.
It was amazing.
action bronson
You had a bar here to lend you the tape?
joe rogan
Somebody gave it to me.
I don't remember how I got the tape, but I remember somebody gave it to me and said, you got to watch this, and then I remember popping it in a VCR for my friend.
It was so ridiculous.
It was super funny.
It was really crude.
I almost wish he would go back to doing it this way, you know?
Because it was so obvious that it was, you know, just really shitty animation.
Like, look at the mouth movements.
It's still shitty, but it's more sophisticated now, right?
action bronson
It's sophisticated shitty.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, this is...
I bet the amount of time it took to do this was probably ridiculous, though.
You know, like the Team America, I think he said he would never do one of those movies again because it was just way too time consuming.
action bronson
I mean, it was a pretty incredible fucking movie.
It's one of my favorites ever.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was one of my all-time favorites.
We were talking about movies that are funnier than Tropic Thunder.
And it's probably none are funnier in moments.
It's as funny as a movie gets.
But there's other really funny movies too.
action bronson
You think that's the funniest of all time?
unidentified
It's one of the funniest.
joe rogan
It's a stupid funny movie.
But Team America.
Team America, too.
Zoolander's really funny.
Yeah, there's a lot of fucking Talladega knights.
I lost all credibility right there, Jamie.
action bronson
When I first saw fucking Borat, I pretty much shit my pants.
joe rogan
Yeah, Borat.
action bronson
Even Bruno.
joe rogan
I didn't see Bruno.
I still haven't seen it.
action bronson
My Albanian father.
My fucking Albanian father, immigrant, hard head, like, only knows one way.
Neanderthal, thinks that's one of the fucking funniest movies ever.
You know what I mean?
It's just weird.
It's a crossover hit.
joe rogan
You know what's an underrated funny movie?
And Adam Sandler's Don't Mess With a Zohan.
action bronson
Oh yeah, that one's a good one too.
joe rogan
Underrated funny movie, man.
Because a lot of people, they put Adam Sandler movies into a category.
Sometimes they can get a little dismissive of an Adam Sandler movie.
But that Don't Mess With the Zohan is a classic.
action bronson
That was a good one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So tell me how your show works, man.
Do you just decide where you want to go?
Does somebody else suggest where to go?
action bronson
Well, a lot of the times it's...
I go on tour for my music...
And then while we're there, we end up shooting the show.
If that's not the case, I just tell them, listen, I want to go to fucking Sicily.
And then we're in Sicily, you know?
It's that simple.
And we just, I bring my boys with me and we just go in.
They put the camera on and we just act how we act.
So it'll be us.
joe rogan
Wow.
Then you just get to pick where you're eating and just showcase different chefs.
You were a chef at one point too?
action bronson
I was.
That's how I really started.
When I was like 18, I went to culinary school and fucked off after that for about a year and a half or two and had a child and went back into the kitchen to start working and that was just it.
I thought I was just going to be a fucking short order cook or a chef or whatever for the rest of my life.
Out of nowhere, I broke my leg, just slipped on the floor, broke my leg.
I was working a little bit with music before that, but not in any capacity where I thought it would be where I am now.
And shit, here we are.
That took me out of the kitchen professionally, put me in a recording studio all the time.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
A fall changed your destiny.
action bronson
Straight up.
Broke my right leg, my right ankle from a slip.
A very, like, I've slipped much worse.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
action bronson
I've done much worse than myself and this one just...
joe rogan
Just cracked.
unidentified
Cracked it.
action bronson
Cracked it.
joe rogan
That's so interesting how something like that can happen or something that looks like a bad thing that happened to you turned into like this amazing door that opened up.
action bronson
Yep.
joe rogan
Then all of a sudden you could do what you really want to do.
action bronson
This is what I wanted to do my whole life.
Nothing.
It's just what I wanted to do.
joe rogan
What is this?
We're watching Jamie.
Niam Jam?
What is that?
action bronson
This is me in Jamaica.
I went down here to do...
What did I go down here to do?
I went down here to do some sort of exhibition with Mario Batali, but he was in no condition to do anything with me that day, so I ended up just hanging out pretty much at the beach the whole time.
joe rogan
Oh, so you were supposed to hang out with Mario and he got fucked up?
action bronson
Pretty much.
I was hanging out with him, but we were just sitting at the bar, hanging.
He was, you know, he was doing well.
He just didn't feel like doing anything.
He just wanted to hang out.
The weather was too good.
joe rogan
Oh, I get it.
action bronson
The weather was just too beautiful.
joe rogan
So he just didn't want to participate in a show?
action bronson
Well, nah, not this one.
Just in the entire...
Events of the thing.
joe rogan
I feel like we're dancing around this story.
action bronson
Yeah, nah, he was...
Bottom line is...
joe rogan
I don't want to push you on anything.
action bronson
Bottom line, I was fucking...
I ate a macaroon, like one of these edibles.
joe rogan
Oh.
action bronson
And I was just demolished walking around.
joe rogan
Did Mario get demolished too?
action bronson
Nah, Mario doesn't get demolished.
That's too bad.
He just drinks wine.
joe rogan
That's too bad.
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's missing out.
action bronson
He is.
I think that he's had his share.
joe rogan
You think so?
action bronson
I would say.
joe rogan
You think he's done?
action bronson
I would say.
joe rogan
I gotta get back to the fucking kitchen.
I gotta cook the shit out of some food.
I don't have time for these deep soul-searching weed trips.
action bronson
Nah, he's just hanging out, man.
He's just living his life.
He's like a fucking superstar.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
He's a rock star, that guy.
joe rogan
The world of chefs is a very different world.
And when I was younger, I didn't really appreciate it as an art form.
I think I just thought of it as more like just a cool thing that someone knows how to make really good food because you can go to that restaurant and you can get it there.
I didn't think of who is the creator of that food and what is that.
Is that an art form?
Because I think it really definitely is.
action bronson
100%.
joe rogan
Guys like you and, like, you look like a chef, which is like you're all tattooed up.
Like, a lot of chefs...
action bronson
That's today's chef.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
action bronson
That's today's chef.
joe rogan
They look like they could be artists.
action bronson
Yeah, for sure.
Well, that's today's chefs.
Today's chefs are, you know, young, crazy, tattooed motherfuckers.
You can't really call who's the chef, you know, but a classic chef is usually the French guy with the handkerchief around his neck and the big hat.
It's not like that anymore.
The chefs are now rock stars.
joe rogan
Well, they definitely have become...
I think a lot of it's because of Bourdain's show.
They've definitely become more highlighted in that regard.
In his show, he's always interviewing these weird, funky people in Portland that are raising their own chickens and shit, and farm-to-table type restaurants.
He'll hang out with a lot of weird, experimental chef people, and a lot of them look like you.
action bronson
Yeah, no, that's a good thing.
He definitely opened the door for a lot of people, but I feel like the celebrity chef started with Emeril Lagasse and people like that, like earlier with like...
joe rogan
Excuse me, what about Julia Child?
action bronson
Exactly.
Oh, excuse me.
Excuse me?
joe rogan
You can't go Emeril.
You can't say it started with Emeril.
action bronson
But I'm sort of like in this era, you know, where it really fucking took off.
Julia Child was really the only one.
And that other guy, Graham Kerr or some shit, whatever the fucking guy's name was.
joe rogan
So was there like a calm before the storm before Emeril arrived?
action bronson
Man, I don't know.
joe rogan
It was like Julia Child and there was nothing.
The world was searching for a TV cook.
action bronson
I was fucking driving around in fucking Jettas and shit, smoking weed in Queens.
I had no idea.
Watching Saved by the Bell at 7 a.m.
joe rogan
Emeril's supposed to be a super nice guy.
Emeril Lagasse, by all accounts, like one of the nicest guys in the world.
Bam!
He says bam all the time.
action bronson
Bam!
He gets hype.
joe rogan
By all accounts, like one of the nicest guys.
action bronson
He just keeps scallions in his pocket and every fucking time he says bam, just throw scallions in your face.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's also interesting in the world of food and cooks and chefs that there's different schools of food in cooks and chefs.
There's the really experimental, artistic people, maybe even alternative in their musical choices.
And then there's Guy Fieri, who's a big, bolsterous American, drives a yellow Corvette, he's got frosted tips.
You know what I mean?
It's like he's got his own...
action bronson
He's a fucking classic character.
joe rogan
...whitesnake version of being an artist.
action bronson
Yeah, he's a fucking Def Leppard.
joe rogan
Equally entertaining.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm a Whitesnake fan, you know?
action bronson
I love him.
He's incredible.
joe rogan
It's funny how those guys don't like each other.
Bourdain and him go back and forth.
action bronson
There's a beef.
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
Bourdain is fucking hilarious.
He's hilarious.
He's like a comic.
action bronson
He's a real dude.
joe rogan
He easily could be a comic.
He's 100%.
action bronson
He worked in New York Kitchen his entire life.
He started jujitsu at 58. I know, I see.
joe rogan
57, 58. He's doing a good job.
action bronson
He's rolling around over there.
joe rogan
He got a blue belt.
action bronson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he got his blue belt.
That's a legit blue belt from Henzo Gracie's Academy.
That is about as legit a blue belt as there is in the world.
You have to earn that.
You don't just get that.
That guy, that's very impressive.
That's very impressive.
To do that at his age.
And apparently he's doing it every day, man.
action bronson
It becomes addictive, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, and I looked at your Instagram page.
You're working out.
You have someone who trains you sometimes.
action bronson
Oh, yeah.
I've been athletic my entire life.
I played football in fucking high school, baseball.
As time goes on, you get lazy.
When I was younger, I was fucking juicing.
I was taking steroids and shit.
I was fucking buff.
I'm serious.
joe rogan
I believe you.
action bronson
I was squatting like six.
I was fucking benching my highest.
joe rogan
You squatting 600 pounds?
action bronson
Straight up.
No shoes on, belt, no wraps, just in the bucket.
joe rogan
You didn't wear shoes?
action bronson
No shoes.
You know, you got to keep the flat, a good flat shoe.
joe rogan
Whoa.
600 pounds with no shoes.
That's crazy.
That's a lot of weight.
action bronson
I was like 22 years old, 23 years old.
But it was probably because of the steroids.
joe rogan
Well, doing a show like this where you're traveling around the world and you're eating all that food, I would imagine, man, it would be super easy to just get lazy.
action bronson
Bro, I just literally lost 50 pounds and I just gained another 20. So my whole life is fluctuation.
I just need to get to that point where I need to...
Get past that fluctuating point and just go down and start seeing all these fucking abs that I have under there.
You know what I'm saying?
I have like 32 ab muscles that you could possibly see.
All that needs to be done is shredded.
joe rogan
Do you really want to lose that much weight?
action bronson
Of course.
Anybody that's overweight wants to have a fucking six pack before they die.
It's a fact.
joe rogan
Is it a fact?
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
I have one vein.
You know when you gauge working out, if you can see the vein or not?
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
I have that good one vein over here, the squiggly.
joe rogan
Upper shoulder Stallone vein.
action bronson
Exactly, the squiggly one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
It's a good one.
That's a good one.
What was the bodybuilder?
The fucking...
The French guy.
I forgot his name.
joe rogan
French guy?
action bronson
Paul DeLay.
joe rogan
I don't know who that guy is.
That's an obscure reference.
action bronson
Exactly.
I have obscure strongman references.
All types of bodybuilder references.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a ridiculous one.
action bronson
Look up Paul DeLay and tell me that he doesn't have that fucking...
He's famous for the squiggle.
joe rogan
So, have you thought about hiring a nutritionist?
action bronson
I know what to do.
joe rogan
You know what to do?
action bronson
I do know what to do.
It's just not easy doing it alone.
I need someone to, you know, literally know you can't do that.
You can't have that at one in the morning.
You can't eat a fucking In-N-Out right now.
You can't have fries right now.
Just stick to it.
It's hard to stick to it.
joe rogan
So is it just a self-control thing?
action bronson
Yes.
But I have self-control in spurts, which is weird.
joe rogan
There is Paul DeLay.
action bronson
There he is.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
This guy's body is insane.
That doesn't even look real.
Oh my god.
What's with the suspenders?
That's two pictures in a row with him wearing suspenders.
action bronson
They always have suspect outfits on and fucking body.
They always wear some wild, like, where did you get that?
joe rogan
Look at his jeans with the belt.
action bronson
That's definitely Carl Kanai.
unidentified
Dude, he is swole.
joe rogan
He's so sweet.
That's ridiculous.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy's so big.
action bronson
I used to look at magazines and want to be like that.
It's just crazy.
Like Ronnie Coleman and fucking...
joe rogan
Insane Science Project right there.
unidentified
Really?
action bronson
That's a science project.
joe rogan
It's amazing how many of those science projects exist, though.
I mean, that's what all those magazines are.
It's the weirdest conspiracy, and it is a conspiracy, that all those, like, if you're looking at those bodybuilding magazines and shit, that none of them, like, I don't know, maybe they do now, but back in the day, none of them were talking about how they did steroids.
action bronson
You're right.
It was all dancing around it.
joe rogan
But they were also talking about, like, you know, I take creatine from, you know, Muscle Dick Hard Corporation, and this creatine is guaranteed to pack on 30 pounds of mass, and they were all, like, pretending that they got all that muscle from some stuff that, you know, it's like, barely works.
Like, creatine works a little bit.
But if you get to the Paul Delay levels...
action bronson
No way.
joe rogan
You can't look like that.
A human being can't look like that.
action bronson
I don't think people understand that.
joe rogan
No.
action bronson
And I don't think I understand why the fuck they used to not talk about it.
Why was it so taboo?
joe rogan
Because it was illegal.
action bronson
Yeah, but now it's illegal and everyone knows what you're doing.
It's like more out in the open now with all the baseball shit and this.
I don't think that it's wrong.
Every baseball player...
joe rogan
Oh, that's what he looks like now?
action bronson
That's crazy.
That looks like a meme.
That looks like something on the...
Yo, what the fuck?
joe rogan
That is insane.
What does it say above that, Jamie?
He already experienced some atrophy of his arms and back.
What had happened to him?
jamie vernon
It just says he's clearly off anabolics and stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
Wow.
Jesus Christ.
Well, you know...
That guy, when he was as big as he was at the top, he had to be on just staggering amounts of that stuff.
What people don't understand is, even if you...
I do know one dude, though, I have to be honest.
I know one dude that I know who never took anything.
I know he didn't.
Because he wouldn't even eat vitamins.
This guy ate all his vegetables.
He's a very smart guy.
And he got really big.
Like, ridiculous.
He was my friend Brian Frazier.
He's a writer.
He's a comic out of Boston.
And at one point in time, he was fucking enormous.
And I know all he did was work out.
That's all he did.
He was just a, like, dedicated bodybuilder.
Dedicated to lifting weights.
He was fucking.
unidentified
Gigantic.
action bronson
Yeah, man.
Some people just have those genetics.
joe rogan
No, it wasn't even genetics.
action bronson
He was just dedicated.
joe rogan
Just dedicated.
Just dedicated, hard work, and he got fucking big.
action bronson
Was he shredded?
joe rogan
Shredded.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He was entering competitions.
He was ridiculously swole.
So much so that one time he went up on stage, he had a golf shirt on, like an alligator shirt, and he came off stage and I pulled him aside and said, dude, listen to me, you can't go on stage with short sleeve shirts.
He goes, why?
I go, because your arms are way too big.
I go, they're way too big.
They're distracting me.
I'm like, I'm your friend and they're distracting me.
You're up there, you're so intimidating.
He was so swole.
I was like, you can't go on stage like that.
Nobody wants to see that.
action bronson
I feel like that's how I wanted to be at one point.
I feel like that's what I wanted.
joe rogan
Yeah, but...
action bronson
Maybe it's the height thing.
You want to be wide that way.
It's because, you know, you're a little bit shorter than the normal man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
You want to be tall that way.
joe rogan
You and I, we go east-west.
action bronson
Exactly.
joe rogan
We can't go north-south.
But I think that if you really wanted to do it, though, you would be like Brian.
You would be dedicated to it, and you'd really want to do it.
You'd get into it.
But it's one of those things where you want to do it, but you're also like a guy who really enjoys life.
action bronson
And there's too many things that I have to be dedicated to, man.
It's fucking hard.
You don't have to be dedicated to music, to this, to that, to food, to fucking everybody, family.
It's like, come on, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
How many more things I have to...
joe rogan
Well, I think if you do decide to do something like that, I think what you're saying is what's really the true thing that a lot of people are trying to avoid when it comes to losing weight or changing your life...
You have to be dedicated to that.
It can't be something you do like, hey, I'm dedicated to my music.
Hey, I'm dedicated to my golf game.
But I'm going to lose weight too.
No, you have to be dedicated.
action bronson
Yes, that has to be your main goal in life is to be doing that.
You have to focus on that.
joe rogan
It has to be one of them.
You're going to try to change your chemistry.
And when people do it, it's so fucking impressive.
I mean, how many people have you met that have lost like 100 pounds and you just want to just...
Shake their hand and go, dude, you fucking did it.
action bronson
Bro.
joe rogan
You lost a hundred pounds.
action bronson
I lost 80 and I gained it fucking back.
You know what I'm talking about?
My fluctuation.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Have you ever thought about, I mean, I know you love food, but have you ever thought about, like, changing the kind of foods you eat?
action bronson
Yeah, of course.
I don't think it's the fine foods that I eat.
I think it's the refined sugars and the disgusting shit that I decide to eat.
Like a chipwitch that I had last night.
joe rogan
What'd you have?
action bronson
A chipwitch.
joe rogan
What's a chipwitch?
action bronson
It's a fucking two Toll House cookies with ice cream in between.
joe rogan
That sounds awesome.
action bronson
It was good and it was melted and I still ate it.
joe rogan
Damn.
action bronson
That's fucking disgusting.
It's piglet shit.
unidentified
That sounds great.
action bronson
He actually had it in his pocket for about a half an hour before I hate it.
Oh my god.
Yeah, so...
joe rogan
I bet it was glorious when it was going down.
action bronson
It was.
joe rogan
My friend Aubrey has the best way of looking at it.
We were talking about it, and it was like, it's so crazy that just a few moments of mouth pleasure is worth fucking up your entire body.
Like, your body, the thing that carries you around in this life, the thing that you need more than anything.
And just for a few moments of mouth pleasure, just...
And then you're feeling your whole body going...
What did you just throw in here and have us deal with, you asshole?
action bronson
It's crazy.
It's fucking nuts.
joe rogan
You asshole.
action bronson
It's fucking nuts.
joe rogan
What a cruel, sick, fucked up joke nature has played on us.
To make the things that are the most delicious going down, the worst for your body.
action bronson
That's a fucking conspiracy.
joe rogan
What a cunt nature is.
Nature's a dirty cunt.
action bronson
Bitch.
What a bitch.
joe rogan
Can you imagine, man?
Like...
If you're eating fried chicken with waffles, okay?
Fried chicken with waffles is one of the most fucking bang-up meals America's ever created.
Like a good, solid...
action bronson
You're gonna put butter on the waffle, right?
joe rogan
Of course!
Like Roscoe's.
Roscoe's chicken and waffles.
Just the sheer amount of sugar you are taking in.
With the waffles...
action bronson
What drink are you gonna have?
joe rogan
What?
action bronson
Coca-Cola!
joe rogan
I'm not even gonna pretend to have a Diet Coke.
action bronson
You gotta get the fucking...
It's like...
Ten times sweeter than Kool-Aid.
joe rogan
What is Sunset?
action bronson
It's orange drink, red drink, and yellow drink mixed.
joe rogan
Just throw them all together?
action bronson
That's the Sunset?
It's fucking stupid.
But then if you want to get nuts, you throw butter on the fried chicken, hot sauce, maple syrup.
joe rogan
Definitely hot sauce.
action bronson
But then you have to have the grits as well that has mad butter in it.
And, you know, it's like...
When does it end?
joe rogan
I think the issue is the sheer grams of sugar you're taking in.
From the waffle and the maple syrup alone, you must be taking in an ungodly amount of sugar.
action bronson
Yeah, straight off that stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, because I drench those things, too.
The way I do it is, like, if I'm having some maple syrup...
action bronson
You're gonna go in.
joe rogan
It's gonna be covered.
action bronson
Going in.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not gonna drizzle it and go, I wish I would've had a little bit more maple syrup, but I'm being sensible.
action bronson
Nah, fuck that.
joe rogan
Fuck that.
Yeah, if you're eating Roscoe's, you know, you've probably already made some critical errors.
action bronson
And you're doing a crazy diet right now, right?
joe rogan
Right now I am, yeah.
action bronson
So that's what I'm saying.
Like, if you were...
You can't even have a cheat day, can you?
joe rogan
You're not supposed to.
I had a beer yesterday.
action bronson
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
I don't think you're really supposed to have a beer.
action bronson
See, you didn't go all out.
If you have a cheat day, you should just like...
joe rogan
Yeah, I haven't gone all out.
I've just decided to try it for 60 days.
Well, I want to just see what it's...
I don't think you really evaluate...
I think...
I've been eating pretty healthy, but one way my whole life.
And I took some time off of gluten for a while.
And I liked that.
But what I liked about it was that I felt like really what was going on was I was just taking in way less sugar.
By not having pastas and breads, which I really love, I was just taking in way less sugar.
And I lost weight, my face got thinner, and I was like, this is interesting.
It's like...
How much of what I'm taking in is sugar?
So I went back to occasionally eating bread and just trying to avoid it.
And then from the last 15 or maybe 15 days, something like that, I've been doing this where I'm doing nothing.
No grains, no pasta, no bread, no sugar.
Nothing other than plants.
Vegetables, fats, coconut oil, shit like that, and meat.
That's it.
action bronson
So it's kind of like the Atkins diet from back in the day, right?
joe rogan
Sort of, but more fats.
action bronson
More fats?
joe rogan
Yeah, more fats even than proteins.
Actually, what the diet is saying is that we use too much protein.
In that, like, if you want to do, like, some extreme powerlifting and you want to get to be the size of Paul Dillet?
Dillet?
Dillet?
action bronson
Who knows?
joe rogan
Arnold Schwarzenegger?
How about that?
You gotta, you know, you have to eat a lot more than the average person.
But for the average person, the average person that's, like, reasonably athletic, your body doesn't really want to process all that extra protein.
And what it really needs to burn is fats.
And so...
Your body will convert, you know, anything into energy that you eat.
But if you live off of a carbohydrate-based diet, their argument is, you know, you're subject to more fluctuations.
Your levels rise and fall.
That's like when you crash after you eat.
action bronson
Yep.
joe rogan
And when, you know, you haven't eaten in a while, you're starving.
And a lot of that, I think, is also related to gut bacteria.
And I'm starting to learn more about that, but not enough really where I can talk.
action bronson
Probiotic stuff?
joe rogan
Probiotics, gut bacteria, and just the amount of different things that you eat.
There's certain types of gut bacteria that thrive off of unhealthy food.
And if you're eating a lot of sugars, apparently what they're saying is that there's different types of gut bacteria that crave that sugar.
And so when you haven't had it in a while, that gut bacteria, even if you're full, you might have had like pot roast and mashed potatoes and vegetables and it was like nothing fucked up at all, right?
You eat that and your body's like, hey asshole, where's the sugar?
Come on!
Come on!
action bronson
Because they're craving it.
joe rogan
It's craving it.
Like those rumbles that you would get.
So I don't know if that's the case with me, so I'm just giving it 60 whole days to see what it's like.
And if I like how I'm feeling after 60 days, I'll tell you right now, though, just a couple weeks in, it's awesome.
I feel great.
I feel great.
I don't feel very hungry in between meals, which is interesting.
So I go eat, and then I guess once you get fat adapted, you just don't have as many crashes.
I just don't know if it's what I want to do sustainably, because it's hard when you go to a restaurant or something like that.
It's hard.
action bronson
You're telling me, man.
joe rogan
You can't even have rice?
Like, there's a lot of delicious dishes that come with rice.
Like, you can't even have rice with a meal?
Like, that seems so extreme.
action bronson
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
But so far, so good.
action bronson
Every time I've ever attempted to lose weight, it was like I did that Atkins diet back in the day, but it felt like I'm eating eggs and sausage and all this nasty shit and still losing weight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
I didn't understand that.
But I fucking ate a piece of bread and it would be over.
I put five pounds on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Isn't that crazy?
action bronson
It's not worth it.
And then you feel shittier than you did because you gained all that weight and you ate all that disgusting stuff that's gotta be sticking to you somewhere, right?
joe rogan
Well, it's just hard for your body to process.
action bronson
Exactly.
joe rogan
It becomes sugar.
action bronson
And now it, yo, it fucking makes you shit really badly.
joe rogan
Really badly.
action bronson
Wrists like you, you can't leave the house.
You have to run to the fucking bed.
joe rogan
But the Atkins is a little bit different than this diet that I'm doing in that this diet just has more fat.
action bronson
But you still go into that same thing, right?
The ketosis?
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
That's what they want you to do.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
That's the point of these diets?
joe rogan
Yep.
Yeah, so your body starts burning fat.
It's fascinating.
The most fascinating thing about it is seeing people argue it from both sides.
Seeing people argue that this is bad for your health and you're fucking up and don't do this.
People get upset.
They get upset like you're trying Satanism.
You know, it's like all of a sudden, like, I'm thinking maybe Satan's got a point.
I'm gonna go meet these guys and I'm just gonna see what's going on.
Like, that's how they're behaving when you're talking about just going on this ketogenic diet.
They pretend like you're doing something evil.
action bronson
Like, don't do it!
joe rogan
You're gonna fuck yourself up, man!
Cut it out!
action bronson
Yeah, like anyone really fucking knows.
joe rogan
And then they start posting all these pro-carb, like, you know, more carbs, hashtag carb up.
You know, carb is brain fuel.
Come on.
What are you...
Just relax.
Relax.
I said I'm trying it for 60 days.
action bronson
Listen, I'm not going to lie.
It's not the easiest thing to have to give up those sheep's milk agnolote and fucking gnocchi.
joe rogan
I know.
Gnocchi is very good stuff.
Pasta, linguine with clam sauce.
action bronson
There's a place that just opened up directly across the street from my house.
Incredible.
It has one of my favorite dishes ever.
It's like cacio y pepe.
Just cheese and pepper with pasta.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
action bronson
But she does it with the pink peppercorn.
So it's like you're eating a bowl of flowers.
joe rogan
Wow.
action bronson
It's one of the most incredible things in life.
I crave it.
joe rogan
God damn it, this diet's bullshit.
action bronson
Exactly.
My bad.
I'm sorry about talking about pasta.
joe rogan
Please, keep talking.
I'll take my pants off real quick.
action bronson
Pasta whore.
That's what you are.
joe rogan
There's just something about pasta that's, it's like, it's the real comfort food, you know?
action bronson
It's comfort.
I mean, for you, for me, for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, I like raviolis, like just cheese raviolis with like a good sauce.
action bronson
You like them fried?
joe rogan
Fried?
action bronson
Fried ravioli.
joe rogan
I've never had it.
action bronson
Just fucking do it as if you were doing a chicken cutlet.
Put it in the egg.
joe rogan
Really?
action bronson
Bread crumb.
You'll thank me.
Trust me.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Like a chicken cutlet.
action bronson
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
Fried ravioli.
unidentified
Ooh.
action bronson
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
Jamie's shaking his head.
action bronson
You've been all over this country.
I'm surprised you have never eaten fried ravioli.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
It's a Midwestern thing.
joe rogan
There's some standards that I have that I have to stick with.
If I go to Philly, I'm having a cheesesteak.
action bronson
100%.
joe rogan
That's the standard.
action bronson
I have to stick with that.
Do we eat pork?
joe rogan
Yes.
action bronson
What about the pork sandwich?
I feel like the cheesesteak is a bit overrated over there.
How dare you?
Listen to me.
The guy at my deli.
In Queens, makes a fucking better cheesesteak.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Than who?
Than all of Philadelphia?
action bronson
No, no, let's not get crazy.
joe rogan
But you're saying better.
action bronson
Because they're usually not flavored.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
action bronson
You know what I mean?
They just do the steak, the cheese, there's no salt.
There needs to be salt.
A little bit at least.
joe rogan
A little bit of salt with meat is always good, right?
action bronson
You know, it brings out the flavor.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
I don't want to have to drench it in hot sauce or ketchup.
joe rogan
Imagine that, like you're telling everybody, everybody's fucking up, you need salt.
Get it together, bitch.
It's that simple.
Just throw some salt on that.
action bronson
It's that simple.
And they've yet to...
joe rogan
Well, that's fogo de chow.
Do you ever eat at fogo de chow?
action bronson
I have, yep.
joe rogan
One of the things about fogo de chow, when you get a nice piece of picanha from them, it's always got salt on it.
It's always got a nice salty...
They have a baste that they baste the meat on when they put them over the fire.
That place is ridiculous.
action bronson
It's incredible.
joe rogan
So good.
action bronson
When they bring out that whole side of beef rib and it just...
It's over.
joe rogan
Well, it's ridiculous too because you just get right after it.
You sit down at one of those places.
You have a red and a green on your little card, like a poker chip.
And you flip it over whenever you're ready to party.
Let's do this.
You put it on green.
These dudes just start swooping in on you with skewers.
Straight up.
action bronson
And swords.
joe rogan
Woo!
Yeah.
action bronson
Have you ever flipped a Tourette?
joe rogan
Flipped a Tourette?
action bronson
No.
Have you ever flipped...
joe rogan
Flipped it to red.
action bronson
Have you ever flipped the thing to red?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, definitely.
action bronson
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Whoa.
action bronson
It stays on green.
joe rogan
Wow.
action bronson
Until we literally gotta waddle out.
joe rogan
You will.
action bronson
And this explains my issue.
joe rogan
Yeah.
We're all different.
We all have different needs.
I can't do it.
action bronson
Damn, I feel like...
I don't know.
Now I feel a little bit down.
joe rogan
Don't feel down.
Ari Shafir is our undisputed world champion of continuing to eat at Fogo de Chow.
No one's been able to touch him.
Ari outbeats...
He outeats Joey.
He outeats me.
He just keeps going.
Ari Shafir can put away food like probably almost no one I've ever seen at one of those Fogo de Chows.
He's ridiculous.
He just keeps it coming.
I'm like, where are you putting this?
He just keeps it coming.
action bronson
Does he go get the rice and everything that just goes for the meats?
unidentified
Oh, I mean, he might have a couple of fucking pieces of lettuce.
joe rogan
He's there to party, you know?
That dude just, he keeps that fucking green.
Like, we all tap out, and we're like, Jesus, sorry.
And the guy's coming by with some lamb chops.
He's like, sure, bring it over.
Do you have any of that jelly?
Any of that lime jelly?
Is that what it is?
What is the jelly?
action bronson
The mint.
joe rogan
Mint.
action bronson
How many of these do you smoke a night?
A lot.
I'm usually hitting the oil, you know, all day long.
Hitting that pure oil.
Taking some fucking mushrooms.
I just got some nice mushrooms in yesterday.
joe rogan
You mean like food mushrooms or magic ones?
action bronson
No, magical ones, yeah.
joe rogan
How long before those are legal?
How long before, after pop becomes legal, we all just get together and go, hey, cut this shit.
All the people that made it illegal, they're all dead now.
We know they were liars.
action bronson
I don't even think it's illegal.
I don't know it's illegal.
I just think it's legal.
All it is is...
It's something that grows from fucking...
joe rogan
Your Honor, may I speak with my client for a moment?
unidentified
Exactly.
action bronson
I just didn't...
I didn't know.
I wasn't...
What do you want me to say?
joe rogan
Sir, you're a registered voter.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
You are a...
You have a driver's license.
You have to know what is and is not legal as far as what you're being arrested for.
action bronson
I'm a bad citizen.
joe rogan
You can't say that, sir.
So let's try this again.
Have you ever been hit in the head?
action bronson
Once.
joe rogan
I have reason to believe my client has sustained a head injury earlier in his life and virtually never recovered.
What he needs is our care.
What he doesn't need is our judgment.
action bronson
I'm like Vincent Giganti.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
He only feels normal.
Fucking walking around like I'm loco.
unidentified
He only feels normal when he gets mushrooms in him.
joe rogan
Therapeutic use of mushrooms is on its way, folks.
action bronson
There's no doubt about that.
joe rogan
It's going to happen.
It should have happened a long time ago.
It would be better for all of us.
action bronson
My girl is studying that, too.
joe rogan
Is she?
action bronson
Yeah, she's into holistic medicine and healing through psychedelics.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people that are involved in that now, including MAPS, the, I don't know what it is, Multidisciplinary Association or something, Psychedelic Studies.
action bronson
They're acknowledging it, right?
joe rogan
Oh, they've made some massive strides in getting...
Trying to get therapeutic use of MDMA for soldiers and other people suffering from PTSD. And they're showing all these applied uses of really excellent compounds that have been demonized.
And because they've been demonized, people that could really use them.
Aren't getting them.
Like, can you abuse them?
But I think we've already established that's a dumb argument, because you can abuse anything.
You can go to a store and buy a hammer, and you can build a house with it, or you can hit yourself in the dick.
If you're fucking stupid.
You can do whatever you want, right?
Like, you can't, you can't, that's not a good argument, that someone could abuse it so it shouldn't be legal.
There's massive amounts of shit to abuse all over us all the time.
So stop.
Cars.
You can, I mean, anything.
Bikes.
You can abuse everything.
I think the use of them, they're magic.
There's a reason why we call them magic mushrooms.
action bronson
Absolutely.
joe rogan
They're fucking magic.
You can have incredible experiences on them.
And the fact that we are not allowed to, and that we have to worry about someone locking us in a cage, if we're doing some shit that's not hurting anybody, it's not even hurting you.
Like, mushrooms don't hurt you.
You have to take some insane amount of them for it to be like the LD50 rate.
It's like, you have to take pounds of it, right?
What's the LD50 from psychedelic mushrooms for psilocybin?
It's really high.
It's like something stupid.
Like, you almost can't even eat it.
How many pounds do you have to eat?
action bronson
I'll tell you this.
Two grams had me on my fucking ass.
joe rogan
This is for mice.
You killed mice with mushrooms.
Oh my god.
unidentified
First of all, here's something fucked up.
joe rogan
Scroll down again.
Scroll up again, rather, so I can see the study.
The name of the study, what's the name of the study at the top?
How many dried mushrooms would I have to eat to die from an overdose of psilocybin?
What is this on?
What website is this?
Shroomery.
action bronson
Shroomery.
joe rogan
How fucking crazy is that?
The dude asks.
He asks, how many mushrooms do I have to eat before I overdose?
Using the data for rats and accepting a median of 1% potency, it would require the consumption of 1,680 grams of mushrooms to reach the LD50 for a 60 kilogram rat.
action bronson
You have to eat a lot.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
That's a lot of grams.
joe rogan
That's a lot of grams.
But rats are tougher than us.
Rats can eat rats.
action bronson
Yeah, they don't fucking die, exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, they eat each other, man.
action bronson
You can't even go off that.
joe rogan
I've told this story a hundred times.
I killed a rat once in my driveway, in my garage.
Went out in the morning to clean the trap and it was gone.
They had eaten him.
unidentified
Ugh.
action bronson
The others.
joe rogan
The others had eaten him.
Yeah.
Oof.
Dude, I mean, down to nothing.
Down to, like, the tail.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
It was insane.
Yeah.
action bronson
Savages, man.
joe rogan
It was just...
action bronson
They're survivors.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it was so creepy to think that I'm sharing my house with cannibals.
Like, these are...
Rodent animal cannibals.
That when one of them dies, the other ones just burn through them.
And there's a bunch of them around me.
They're in my ceiling.
I hear them crawling around in there.
They're in the house.
They're just too small.
Or, you know, they're too small for them to kill me.
action bronson
That shit freaks me the fuck out, man.
I had a squirrel in my house one time in the wall.
And you hear them three in the morning.
I'm sitting there three in the morning naked with my fucking...
Just watching SportsCenter.
And they start fighting, screaming.
I'm like, holy, what the fuck is that?
joe rogan
In the ceiling?
action bronson
In the ceiling.
I start hitting the ceiling with the broom.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
action bronson
I start hitting the closets, like, trying to scare them.
And then, eventually, the motherfucker ate through the wall.
One day I was laying on the couch and I just suddenly open my eyes and look up.
And he's just fucking looking at me.
We make eye contact and it's like...
It's a fucking...
It's a standoff.
It's about to be, you know, like a Mexican shootout.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
action bronson
It was crazy.
So then my...
Then my Greek landlord decided to put traps out and I think that he...
Literally slaughtered about 60 of them from the neighborhood.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
action bronson
It's not his fault.
joe rogan
It's not his fault.
action bronson
It was in the trap.
The trap.
Now listen.
They did bad things to the neighborhood.
They would eat through lines.
joe rogan
Poor little squirrel.
Nobody gives a fuck about rats.
If he killed 60 rats, it would be like, good, kill 60,000.
action bronson
Man, I now feel bad about that fucking shit.
Don't feel bad.
joe rogan
Because if you kill- Why is it if you kill squirrels, people get bummed out?
But if you kill rats, people are like, yeah, you gotta kill them.
action bronson
Shouldn't fucking kill anything, but at the end of the day, shit happens.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you're killing something with a trap, you're definitely trying to kill it.
action bronson
Yeah, I had no involvement.
joe rogan
But I'm just wondering why we so readily accept killing rats but not squirrels.
How do rats feel about that?
action bronson
It's viewed as vermin.
I feel like squirrels are viewed as vermin to a lot of people.
I feel like that's the case.
Like an issue.
Like a big feral hog.
It's the same shit.
joe rogan
No.
action bronson
In certain parts of the world, they're considered just as much of a nuisance as a rat.
joe rogan
Wow, that's crazy.
Where?
action bronson
Certain islands.
joe rogan
Squirrels are just thinking of them as rats.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
They think of them like rats?
action bronson
I feel like squirrels, just in New York, a lot of people are just fucking scared of squirrels.
joe rogan
Well, do you know the difference between tree squirrels, those cute ones that everybody likes, and those ground squirrels?
action bronson
Mm-mm.
joe rogan
Dude.
Ground squirrels are fucking crazy.
Ground squirrels...
I was on this ranch in California, and they have a ground squirrel problem, and we're driving down this road, and as we're driving down this road, you're watching these little tiny creatures pop their head out of the ground, run across, and jump into another hole.
There's holes all over the place.
action bronson
And what are they growing crops over there?
They were trying to...
joe rogan
They got a bunch of different shit that grow in there.
They have...
They have cattle that are grazing.
They have a bunch of different things going on there.
action bronson
They're fucking ruining the system.
joe rogan
They can't do anything about these things.
There's so many of them.
They say there's so many ground squirrels that the biomass of these things is like a biomass of a giant herd of cattle or something like that.
There's so many of them.
It's like a hundred cows.
That's how many of these little fucking ground squirrels are just running around this area.
action bronson
So what do they do?
I saw that they do these...
Where it gives them a shock.
They have these things where they put food in, and it kills them humanely.
It shocks them.
joe rogan
I don't know how many there are.
I don't know if they know.
Like, if you're driving down the road, and you just keep seeing these little heads pop up and run across.
There's another one.
unidentified
Bang!
joe rogan
There's another one.
Bang!
Pop up, run across.
Little tiny thing, little tiny road, and boom!
Jumps in a hole.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Jumps in a hole.
And you watch them scramble all across the ground.
You're like, whoa!
If these were rats, I would be freaking the fuck out right now.
action bronson
Flippin'.
joe rogan
I'd be going, Jesus, look at all these rats!
If you were driving down New York City and that's what you saw with rats, just popping up and running across, popping in the hole, everybody would be like, let's get the fuck out of here!
action bronson
This place is overrun!
joe rogan
We gotta get out of the city!
It would be like that scene in Aliens where the dude was talking about nuking it from orbit.
action bronson
Straight up.
joe rogan
We gotta get out of the city.
We gotta poison everything.
We gotta take five years off the city and then we can return.
We just poison everything there for five years.
action bronson
It's heavy.
joe rogan
But these little ground squirrels, they're a little cuter.
Slightly cuter.
So they're more accepted.
action bronson
Like, all those little animals are cute.
joe rogan
Little rats, not that cute.
Not really into them.
action bronson
There's something about them.
joe rogan
They're just too untrustworthy.
They're too rat-like.
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
People that have rats for pets, though, they love them.
It's the same thing.
I mean, if you have a domesticated animal and it grows up with you in its care for its entire life, then you become like family, you know, just like a dog or a cat.
But if you've ever been around a feral cat and you've ever been around a feral dog, like, ooh, that can be really scary.
action bronson
I had a cat that I... My mother rescued a cat when I was younger.
And the fucking cat attacked me.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
Was it a feral cat?
action bronson
It was.
It was a white cat and it was...
It was abused.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
action bronson
And I wasn't like, you know...
I was fucking with it a little bit, like, you know...
joe rogan
That's scary.
action bronson
Grabbing its neck and shit.
Like, you know, the back where it's skin...
And he fucking snapped and bit the shit out of me and scratched me.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
action bronson
Went nuts, he wouldn't stop.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
action bronson
But it's alright.
I fucked with him.
I deserved it.
joe rogan
They can be terrifying, though.
It's amazing how powerful a little cat is.
action bronson
They're ferocious.
It's non-stop.
They're too quick.
You don't know what to do.
And you panic because, like, what the fuck is this?
Fucking thing.
He's attacking me?
What is this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
It's not a human.
joe rogan
And they're gonna go full bore, whereas you're gonna kind of pull back a little.
It's such a better design as far as killing things.
Their bodies are so well designed.
When you watch that guy that was jumping across those buildings...
Cats would be like, bitch, I do that all day.
action bronson
Easy.
unidentified
Easy.
joe rogan
They do that so gently around my house.
You know, they just leap all of a sudden, boom, they're on the couch.
Leap, boom, they're on the table.
action bronson
Right.
joe rogan
Walk across, leap, boom, they're on the ground.
unidentified
They walk on railings, balancing act on railings.
action bronson
What about those, um, I love watching those shows on National Geographic, like when they make the kill.
Then they drag it all the way up into the tree.
joe rogan
Oh, like leopards.
action bronson
You know, like leopards dragging a moose up into the fucking...
Like, you kidding me?
joe rogan
They're so scary.
action bronson
That's a design.
joe rogan
They grab them with their teeth.
Look at this leopard.
action bronson
This is the recent one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
This was in India, right?
It got loose and was just jacking people.
action bronson
Look at that.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Just jumped up and bit that guy.
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
Can you jump in the water?
Is that safe or no?
Like, can they swim?
action bronson
I don't think they swim.
I think that lepers won't jump in the water.
joe rogan
But what if they do, man?
Oh my god, look at this thing biting him.
action bronson
Oh, man, he's...
joe rogan
That guy got fucked up.
action bronson
Someone threw him a fucking stick.
You saw someone throw him a stick?
joe rogan
Yeah, Jesus Christ, that's terrifying, man.
That is fucking terrifying.
That animal's so powerful, too.
That's a big cat.
That thing looked like it was 150 pounds.
action bronson
At least.
joe rogan
Oof.
Just imagine a 150 pound house cat fucking you up.
Yeah.
Fuck all that, dude.
Yeah.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
We're so poorly designed.
When it comes to being able to defend ourselves against something like that, we're so poorly designed.
It's amazing.
Other animals have such a way better shot.
action bronson
Athletically.
joe rogan
Even chimps.
Chimps are so much stronger than us.
They have a way better shot at surviving a cat attack.
action bronson
They're fucking swinging from trees going nuts.
joe rogan
That was one of the things they found about those big giant chimps in the Congo that they nest on the ground like gorillas.
Gorillas nest on the ground because nobody wants to fuck with a gorilla.
Cats don't want to fuck with a gorilla.
It's like too much work.
You could easily get your jaw broke.
You could easily get your leg broke.
Yeah.
They can't fuck with gorillas.
It's too hard.
They might catch a baby slipping.
You know, they might be able to catch a baby.
Like, you know, if he gets separated from his mom at the right...
You know, that's possible.
But like a regular-sized gorilla?
Good luck.
action bronson
No fucking way.
They'll have to be stalking.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So they sleep in the ground where chimps sleep in the trees.
Chimps still gotta be careful.
But they found these big giant chimps in the Congo.
They call them the Beely Ape or the Bondo Ape.
And, um...
They were just a legend for the longest time.
They were in that book, Michael Crichton's book?
action bronson
Is that who it was?
joe rogan
The Congo?
Is that who wrote that?
action bronson
I've seen the movie.
joe rogan
Was it Crichton that wrote that?
action bronson
Did you see that movie, Congo?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It was kind of silly.
action bronson
Yeah, it was terrible.
joe rogan
It was terrible.
action bronson
Who's that guy with the accent?
You know, the one that's always in all those movies.
The weirdo.
joe rogan
Which guy's that?
action bronson
Fucking weird guy.
He was like the...
He was the guide.
He was terrible.
He's in like...
joe rogan
I don't remember who he was.
action bronson
You'll see his face.
He's like, oh, this fucking guy.
joe rogan
It was just not a very good movie.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
That guy?
action bronson
That's not him.
joe rogan
That's not him.
But that was the guy from the Congo.
action bronson
Where's the doctor?
joe rogan
Her?
action bronson
Nah, there's another one.
The one who was looking for...
Oh, there he is.
joe rogan
What?
Who?
action bronson
There he is.
jamie vernon
Oh.
unidentified
Timothy...
joe rogan
That guy?
action bronson
You've seen him before.
joe rogan
But that guy's great.
That's the guy from Rocky Horror Picture Show.
action bronson
Exactly.
That fucking guy.
unidentified
Tim Curry.
joe rogan
Tim Curry.
Thank you.
Yeah.
action bronson
Yeah, I like him.
joe rogan
Well, that movie dealt with...
See that monkey up there?
That one picture.
That's supposedly what these giant chimps look like.
So in the movie, they were these fictional animals that were super smart and they were really big.
But it's based on this thing.
This is a real one.
action bronson
Wow.
joe rogan
This is a real one that someone had killed at the turn of the century.
That's one that they shot at an airport in Africa.
Look at the size of that thing in comparison to those men.
You're talking about a chimp that could get to be like 400 pounds.
They're enormous.
action bronson
That is ridiculous.
joe rogan
Yeah, and so they sleep on the ground, just like gorillas do.
And there's a small population of them.
action bronson
They just recently found them?
joe rogan
Well, there's a Swiss, I think there's a Swiss wildlife photographer named Carl Armand, and he took some photos of them with a camera trap.
Put up a photo, camera trap, Bondo ape.
I think I'm saying his name right, Carl Armand.
But he...
Yeah, the upper left.
That's it.
Those photos.
Yeah, that's the same thing.
See, one of them, what does it say?
Carl Amman.
action bronson
Is that one also in...
joe rogan
Just for everybody, it's A... Excuse me.
Carl, K-A-R-L-A-M-M-A-N-N. And he got these camera trap photos of them walking upright.
And that was the most fucked up thing about it.
action bronson
Holy shit, I didn't even realize what I was looking at.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a six foot tall chimp that's walking upright.
I mean, they're really big.
They're way bigger than a regular chimp.
And they have a crest in their head like gorillas do.
You know, gorillas are one of the few primates that has, if you look at its skull...
They have a crest in the skull where these massive chewing muscles and biting muscles all sort of congregate on their head.
They have these huge jaw muscles and these huge clampdown muscles.
And they have this cleft in the top of their head.
I pull up Bondo ape skull and they found the skulls of these things.
And at first they were like, okay, is this a hybrid?
Like, what is this?
See how it has like a crest in the top of the head?
So now that they know that it's a real animal, they're like, whoa, this is the first chimp they've ever found that has a crest like this.
action bronson
Look at it.
joe rogan
And it's also, they were thinking it was some sort of a hybrid.
They were thinking like maybe it was part gorilla, part chimp.
Is that possible?
But then the genetics, they've gotten, I think, from stool samples and some other methods of acquiring them.
They think that it's just its own kind of chimp.
Just a breed that only exists in this one area.
Pretty fucking crazy.
You think about it, like, they've only had photos of this thing since this guy, Carl Amann, in the, I think, the 90s he did that, right?
Yeah.
What does it say as far as when he first got the photos on it?
I guess it's apparently been, like, legend.
But the Congo is giant, man.
It's like the United States.
It's huge.
Like, the Congo rainforest, if you look at it on a map...
They'll take the actual size of the US and put it in the Congo.
action bronson
You can put it in the Congo.
joe rogan
You almost can.
It's pretty close.
It's pretty close.
It's basically the size of the United States, give or take.
Even if it was half the size, it's fucking crazy.
Who the hell knows what's in there?
action bronson
Yeah, exactly.
You can never find everything that's there.
joe rogan
But this one area where this thing lives is, of course, they're probably, like, making cell phones out of there or something like that, pulling minerals out of the ground that they need for, you know, the iWatch or something.
So who knows?
unidentified
I mean...
This is how big it is?
jamie vernon
Two-thirds the size of Western Europe.
joe rogan
Two-thirds the size of Western Europe.
Jesus Christ.
What does it look like in comparison to the United States?
jamie vernon
I had a picture of it.
It covered about half the U.S., but I think it was the DR of the Congo, so I'm not sure if it's a different size.
action bronson
That's a fucking pretty heavy-duty piece right there.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
action bronson
Home Midwest.
joe rogan
I definitely exaggerated.
But it's still unbelievably huge.
Just look.
It goes from the bottom of the United States all the way up to Canada.
But only, I would say, like a third of the size.
jamie vernon
Slightly bigger than Alaska, maybe?
joe rogan
Definitely bigger than Alaska.
jamie vernon
Alaska's pretty big, too.
joe rogan
How much is it?
It's not really half.
It doesn't look like half to me.
It looks more like a third.
justin wren
Like, scroll down a little so we can see it better.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, that doesn't really look like half to me.
Does it?
Looks like slightly...
Yeah, slightly less than half.
Maybe 40% or something like that.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
action bronson
And almost 80% of people have AIDS. Really?
That's what it says.
joe rogan
80% of the people in the Congo have AIDS? More likely.
Are likely to have HIV AIDS. Wow.
action bronson
Heavy duty.
joe rogan
So, if you go to the condo, the Congo will wear a condom, right?
Well, we knew that.
action bronson
You gotta wear the full body condom like fucking Naked Gunny.
joe rogan
It's just insane how diverse...
That part of the world is.
Like the amount of different animals that exist in that one crazy rainforest area.
They have all sorts of wild shit in there.
We were looking at videos of that thing last night.
That shoebill bird.
That giant prehistoric looking dinosaur bird.
That lives in the Congo too.
action bronson
The one with the long...
joe rogan
Yeah, crazy long hatchet face.
It's got like a long battle axe for a face.
It's like a five foot tall bird.
action bronson
Oh, scary fucking things.
Imagine getting chased down by one of those.
joe rogan
Yeah, there it is.
It's two days in a row the shoe bell has made a...
Look at the fucking size of that thing.
action bronson
That thing looks crazy.
It just looks like he's demented.
joe rogan
That one doesn't look nearly as tall as five feet.
Is five feet as big as they get?
Look at the fucking eyes in that thing, man.
He's giving it a rat.
Look how stupid it is, too.
action bronson
Yeah, right?
It's an idiot.
joe rogan
Look at it.
It's so dumb.
Just a dumb old dinosaur.
That's a dinosaur, man.
I mean, for real.
What are we looking at?
Is this a real animal?
Are you fucking shitting me?
This looks like Avatar.
This looks like some Avatar shit.
It really does.
The fact that that is a real animal.
That this lady is feeding this animal rats.
Look at it.
It's gulping down mice and fish and shit.
Look at the face on that thing.
Look at its eye.
action bronson
It's like fucking hatchet face from Cry Baby.
joe rogan
Look at its fucking eyes.
It's like, I don't believe that you really can tell how intelligent someone is if you look into their eyes, but I do believe you can see when something's dumb as fuck.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you can't tell looking at somebody how smart they are, but you can definitely tell looking at that thing there's not a whole lot going on.
There's like some simple wiring.
Fuck that thing.
Jesus Christ, Jamie.
action bronson
Yo, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Look at this photo.
action bronson
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Jamie just pulled up a photo of this bird.
action bronson
That's pretty fucking amazing, Lucan.
joe rogan
Dude, someone needs to make a horror movie where these things just, you know, someone lets them out of a lab in Florida.
You know, there's like a Florida University lab.
And they get out and they start breeding.
And they start talking to each other.
action bronson
That looks like one of those angry birds from the thing, from the game, right?
unidentified
The eyes.
action bronson
Did they use one of those?
joe rogan
The eyes.
action bronson
Shit.
joe rogan
Those dead eyes.
Those dead dinosaur eyes.
Those eyes are the reason why we have houses.
action bronson
Yo, that's fucking creepy, yo.
That's creeping me the fuck out.
joe rogan
Those eyes are the reason why we have houses and weapons.
Those houses are the reason why we figured out fire and communication.
We had to figure out how to not get eaten by shit like that.
Look at that thing.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Now imagine that this is in the same sort of vein, as far as animals go, as that terror bird.
Except it's considerably smaller.
Where that terror bird was like seven feet tall.
And lived in North America.
Lived in North America while people were alive.
These things were giant.
And they were running around.
Like, look at the photo with the soldier there, Jamie.
Look at this.
Look how big these fucking things were.
action bronson
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck?
These things lived while people were alive, right?
Like, when did these terror birds exist?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck that thing.
Just fuck that thing.
action bronson
That shit is crazy looking.
joe rogan
It's nine feet tall.
unidentified
It's a nine foot tall giant fucking bird, man.
joe rogan
When did the thing live?
1.5 million years ago?
Is that what it says?
action bronson
That's not that long.
joe rogan
What's it say, Jamie?
15 or 1.5?
jamie vernon
2.5 million years ago.
joe rogan
2.5 million years ago.
Alright, so that's definitely not people.
action bronson
Someone was there.
Someone was there.
joe rogan
Some silly monkeys.
action bronson
Something was there.
joe rogan
But what year do you think monkeys started figuring out how to start using weapons and shit?
Like, what year was it that they figured out, like, the very first subhuman hominid that was smart as fuck that was figuring out how to, like, make a weapon?
action bronson
It would have to have been them picking up some sort of branch or some sort of rock and throwing it.
joe rogan
Maybe.
action bronson
That's the first thought of using a weapon, no?
Rock.
joe rogan
Maybe.
I would wonder if it would be that or a stick.
Like, to beat something with a stick or to throw a rock.
Like, which would be the first one they figured out.
But what year do you think...
I mean, I wonder how long it was ago that our ancestors first started developing a weapon.
Like something to either kill, something to eat, or something to defend themselves.
jamie vernon
I'm looking a little farther.
There's some reports from Uruguay saying that these might be dated to 450,000 or 17,000 years ago.
joe rogan
17,000 years ago.
jamie vernon
Those claims are being debated.
joe rogan
That's what I had heard.
action bronson
It's more in the realm.
joe rogan
I think I had heard it was like 35,000 years ago, they think, that some of them were living in North America.
jamie vernon
This art was written in Spanish or something.
I can't get through that.
joe rogan
It was all pre-Ice Age, either way, because the Ice Age was 10,000 years ago.
This whole motherfucker was just frozen solid.
That's hard to imagine.
action bronson
Listen, I question everything.
I don't know what the fuck is going on.
Who knows what's happening?
But I like watching ancient aliens.
joe rogan
I do too.
I wish it was real.
I wish it was all real.
action bronson
I wish it was too.
joe rogan
I hope they're right.
I hope they're right about a lot of shit.
It would be so much more fun if aliens had been here and contacted us and left information.
It would be so much more fun.
action bronson
It would be incredible.
joe rogan
Than...
action bronson
And to actually be alive to find that out?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think it's totally possible that something could get way smarter than us and can travel from some other place.
It's also totally possible that it's never happened yet.
It's totally possible that people are just full of shit.
It's also totally possible that our experience on Earth has been broken up a bunch of times by huge disasters.
And I think that this is one of those things that this guy Graham Hancock is trying to prove and is doing a fantastic job of sort of documenting the way he describes it, that we're a civilization with amnesia.
It's really interesting stuff, man, because he's saying essentially what probably happened was human beings invented a bunch of really cool shit, developed a bunch of great technology, had made sophisticated societies and cultures, and then BOOM! Boom!
A fucking rock from the sky comes down.
action bronson
Start over.
joe rogan
Flattens everything.
Kills a giant chunk of the people.
Fucks up all the infrastructure.
Chaos.
Disorder.
And then things are fine for another few hundred years.
And boom!
A new one hits.
And they're all throughout Europe.
They've proven it now that there's this nuclear glass shit all throughout Europe and in Asia as well.
action bronson
The vitrification.
joe rogan
And it's all around 10,000 years ago.
action bronson
How crazy is that?
It's unexplainable, right?
joe rogan
It's insane.
They think that that's what happened, that 10,000 to 12,000 years ago, all of Europe was pelted with rocks.
It's fucking nuts and that people had to start over after that and that all of our stories about Cataclysms and you know the Noah and the ark and all that shit about keeping keeping societies alive Whether it's like the epic of Gilgamesh all these different stories that are real similar real similar tale of someone like trying to keep humanity alive in the face of this chaotic Disaster all of those represent the same stories all those represents the things that ended the fucking ice age and Rocks from the
sky 10,000 years ago, Jamie.
action bronson
Heavy shit.
joe rogan
Too heavy for me!
You got me too high, you fuck.
action bronson
There's fucking three joints left, bro.
Actually, there's four.
joe rogan
Oh, we can't.
We can't keep going.
We'll forget what we already talked about.
We'll repeat ourselves.
action bronson
We are a society with amnesia.
joe rogan
Oh, definitely wouldn't be smoking this kind of weed.
You get all kinds of amnesia.
action bronson
This is fire, too.
Just know that about that.
joe rogan
So when you're going on these trips, do you base these trips on places you want to eat?
Do you base these trips on you're already touring there and you say, well, fuck it, let's combine the two together?
action bronson
Yep, pretty much.
I get to go to cool places for music.
I get to go to a lot of amazing countries.
I've been to Africa.
I've been pretty much all over.
Not Asia yet, all over Europe.
All over America.
And pretty much people want to take me out to these restaurants because they know I appreciate it.
They know what I'm about.
Through my lyrics and through seeing me and getting to know me on that type of level where you almost feel like you know me, people feel like they need to show me the right way in their city.
I have to be taken care of.
You know?
And it's only right.
I like to be taken care of.
And, you know, I have an incredible team over at Vice and Munchies and Viceland that, you know, they get the job done.
They work.
joe rogan
Well, once you start doing a show like this, then people start hearing about it, then, you know, you get all the people that are contacting you with great suggestions, and it sort of makes itself, like, you figure a chart just based on all these people trying to get you to go to their spots, right?
action bronson
Yeah, well, you know, a lot of it is organic, though.
People are genuinely fans of the music and genuinely fans of the show.
unidentified
Yeah.
action bronson
A lot of the times, they don't want to ask to be on it.
I see people throwing the little hints.
Come by.
Bring the guys.
joe rogan
Is this something you planned out, or is this just something that sort of came along and just seemed like a natural thing to do?
action bronson
Yeah, it just came along.
I was getting filmed in the kitchen cooking, and it was kind of cool.
I always...
Growing up watching these shows, these dudes being rock stars now, I was like, why can't I do that?
Look at fucking Guy Fieri.
joe rogan
Guy Fieri?
action bronson
Yeah.
That guy?
My bad.
Guy Fieri.
I said it with the intensive Fieri.
joe rogan
Is that how you're supposed to say it?
action bronson
It's alright.
It's a little accent.
Look at him.
There he is.
Look at this guy.
What else is he gonna do besides what he does?
joe rogan
He could be in Nickelback.
action bronson
He could be in Nickelback.
He could be in...
What was the one?
I'm an All-Star.
He could rock that.
What is that?
joe rogan
Smash Mouth.
action bronson
He looks like the lead singer of Smash Mouth.
joe rogan
Oh, hey now.
action bronson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, he's got his...
He figured out his own spot.
action bronson
Can you just scroll up for a second?
Go to the one with the flames on his shirt.
unidentified
Ugh.
action bronson
To the right.
Oh, so ridiculous.
Yes.
He actually, they were like, get crazy while he was taking these pictures, and he did that, and that's forever etched in time.
joe rogan
It's just hilarious that he's got such a crafted thing going on.
He's a rock star.
Rock star.
Cook guy.
action bronson
Let me ask you something.
Do you think...
joe rogan
Seems like a nice guy.
action bronson
No, that's what I'm saying.
Do you think that this is a shtick?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's smart.
He decided to make himself...
Look, you look at a guy like Donald Trump.
Everybody knows that he has this crazy hair.
You don't think that Donald Trump could get a better haircut?
action bronson
Oh yeah, he plays into it for sure.
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
It's part of his flair is that he's pulling it off with this goofy haircut.
He's got billions of dollars and he's got this hair helmet that he's got on.
Same with Don King.
action bronson
It's a legendary hair helmet.
joe rogan
Don King, man.
A lot of guys did that.
They had sort of a wacky look on purpose, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jamie vernon
I thought of this yesterday.
Is there any chance Donald Trump's trolling in some sort of performance piece for like a movie?
joe rogan
I think Donald Trump is a guy who has full belief in his ability to run this country.
Whether or not he can actually run the country, I don't think it's an act.
I think he has full belief that he can do it.
It is bizarre to see because it's freaking people out.
I think one of the more fascinating things about this election is how people are so freaked out that he's pretty much in command right now.
action bronson
There's thoughts, there's like panic that he could, that there's a possibility he could be the president.
joe rogan
Oh, it's very likely.
action bronson
You think that it's very likely?
joe rogan
I think if things keep going the way they're going right now, It looks to me like he's gonna be the president.
action bronson
Are the others putting their fucking foots in their mouth?
What is the issue?
Why is he shining?
joe rogan
I don't understand.
action bronson
Is it the internet age?
Is it the social media age that's making this guy into this figure almost like the Jordan face?
joe rogan
The Jordan face.
action bronson
The meme?
It's like an iconic thing.
Do you know about the...
Pull up the Jordan face.
Donald Trump is becoming the fucking Jordan face, man.
The crying Jordan.
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing.
When people look for someone to be president, whether it's rational or not, they look towards someone who they think is going to be a leader.
Oh, the crying Jordan face?
action bronson
Yeah, that's like the...
joe rogan
Oh.
action bronson
They put it on everybody.
If you fuck up, you get the crying Jordan face.
joe rogan
People look towards someone that they want to be a leader, and the problem with Donald Trump He said a bunch of ridiculous stuff about, like, Mexicans and some stuff that, like, not measured stuff about Muslims coming into this country.
Not measured and rational and, you know, it was way too show-busy, you know?
action bronson
If you fuck with the Mexicans, they will shut the country down.
Restaurants will be closed.
It'll be over.
Things will be done.
joe rogan
Yeah, very likely.
Plus, they're nice.
We're not having a lot of problems with Mexicans.
This idea that Mexicans are causing all these problems, if they were really causing that many problems, we would have a lot more problems, because there's a lot of Mexicans.
action bronson
All they ever do, they just want to come over to the country so they can make money to send home to their family.
I worked with guys that literally slept in shithole rooms just so they could send their salary at $300, $400 from washing dishes all fucking week back home for their family.
And these are the people that you want to keep out of the country?
Like, the honest working man riding his bike back and forth to work every day in the fucking snow, the rain, whatever, you know?
It's upsetting.
I work close with these guys, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, we're in kitchens, right?
action bronson
In kitchens, yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of Mexican guys want to be in chefs.
action bronson
And incredible ones, too.
And no, you could teach them any cuisine.
joe rogan
It's just unfortunate that...
He would say things like that and that people would respond the way they've responded.
You know, people got kind of excited that someone is finally going to close the wall, you know, close the borders and put up a wall.
action bronson
They all come out when, you know, the freaks come out at night.
joe rogan
Well, it's just there's bad people in every group, in every group.
And the idea that...
These people, because they're more poor and because they got stuck in this one spot, they should be trapped there forever, even though it's connected to us by dirt.
I mean, there's like a clear path between us and Mexico.
action bronson
It's right there.
joe rogan
And we have to stop people from walking across to get jobs.
Can you imagine if Americans, if you made them walk across the desert to get jobs?
action bronson
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
How few of us would be employed if you had to walk across, you had to get in the river, you had to fucking wade across the river, you had to get to the other side holding your baby over the rapids.
And then once you get to the other side, you gotta climb a wall, and then you gotta walk across the desert, and then you gotta find a job.
action bronson
Hmm.
joe rogan
What, you don't have a job for me when I get there?
No, no, no.
You better know somebody, too, because, you know, you can't speak their language.
What?
Yeah.
I'm gonna live somewhere where they don't speak my language.
Do you want money or not?
Okay, I'll do it.
No one's gonna do it.
No American do it.
You know?
These fucking kids coming out of college today.
There's no jobs.
action bronson
This younger generation's fucked.
joe rogan
The wall just got ten feet higher.
Is this his new statement?
jamie vernon
From a couple days ago, after he won something.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
He's hilarious.
It's hilarious.
donald j trump
So, the president of Mexico yesterday, or the ex-president, or whatever, whoever, who cares, He said, we will not even consider paying for the wall.
action bronson
You have to understand.
Because, okay, you ready?
unidentified
Who's gonna pay for the wall?
Who?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
action bronson
A hundred percent.
unidentified
A hundred percent.
donald j trump
So I get a call from one of the reporters yesterday, and they said, the president of Mexico said they will not, under any circumstances, pay for the wall.
action bronson
They said to me, what is your comment?
unidentified
I said, the wall just got ten feet higher.
It's true.
It's true.
joe rogan
He fucked it up with the, it's true, it's true.
He should have laid back on that.
He had a strong delivery.
He had a strong delivery.
He just panicked while he was getting the cheers.
action bronson
He got hyped.
That's how you can tell he's not primed for the spot.
What the fuck is going on, man?
He got too hyped right there when he heard the claps.
joe rogan
That is crazy that a guy can say something like that.
That is so not measured.
jamie vernon
Did you see that please clap moment with Jeb Bush?
joe rogan
No.
jamie vernon
And it pretty much just like ruined him and he's now out of the race?
joe rogan
No.
What happened?
jamie vernon
I'll show it to you.
He's given a speech somewhere and he gets this real riled up moment and he's waiting for an applause break and it doesn't come.
So he literally says to the crowd, please clap.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Oh, the poor bastard.
action bronson
Goodness gracious.
joe rogan
Fuck.
He's probably so happy to be out of this.
unidentified
We'll have the back of the military.
I won't trash talk.
I won't be a divider in chief or an agitator in chief.
I won't be out there blowharding, talking a big game without backing it up.
I think the next president needs to be a lot quieter, but send a signal that we're prepared to act in the national security interests of this country to get back in the business of creating a more peaceful world.
Please clap.
joe rogan
I thought that was humorous.
I actually thought that was humorous.
action bronson
That wasn't terrible.
joe rogan
I thought that was humorous.
The way he did that, I thought it was awkward.
action bronson
I saw an older guy in a yarmulke.
I saw a bunch of really old people there.
Maybe they just didn't catch it at that time.
joe rogan
I thought he was being funny.
I would think that would be a good way to end it.
You say, please clap.
But maybe I'm just optimistic.
He's definitely not the guy.
You can't talk like that and be the guy.
You better be focused as fuck.
I think he probably saw what happened to his brother, saw what happened to his dad, and he was like, fuck this job.
action bronson
Trying to be different.
joe rogan
No, I think they're trying to push him into a job he doesn't really want.
I don't think he really wanted to be president.
It just didn't seem like it to me.
action bronson
He wants to be a carpenter.
joe rogan
Like, Bernie Sanders seems to want to be president.
I believe it.
I'm convinced Hillary Clinton wants to be president.
I'm convinced Trump wants to be president.
action bronson
For sure.
joe rogan
How about that Rubio guy?
Does he want to be president?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Chris Christie didn't want to be president.
action bronson
No way.
joe rogan
No fucking way.
action bronson
He's a fucking scumbag.
joe rogan
Is he?
How dare you?
unidentified
Is he?
action bronson
I'm not really sure.
This is what I hear.
I don't really know politics.
This is what I hear.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's all you need to know.
The judge has spoken.
Yeah, I just don't know.
I don't know what's gonna happen in this country if that guy wins.
It's gonna be very weird.
If that guy wins, like someone who could say shit like that wins?
Wow.
Who knows, man?
What would happen if he got into office and then immediately gave like a calm, sober presentation and explained that he did what he had to do to win, but he's absolutely serious about being the president.
I wonder if that's possible.
action bronson
America's pretty liberal, I feel like.
Give him a shot.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the wall just got 10 foot higher.
Like, what?
What is this, an episode of a movie?
It's an episode of a movie.
action bronson
He's a sick fuck.
That's what he is.
He's a sick fuck.
joe rogan
Do you think he's sick?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Like how so?
action bronson
100% he has one of the littlest dicks in the world.
There's no doubt about that.
joe rogan
I can't believe what I'm hearing on this program.
action bronson
You can just tell how he's talking.
joe rogan
First of all, say allegedly.
action bronson
Allegedly, he has one of the tiniest penis.
He has a micro penis.
joe rogan
I don't think that's the case.
I bet he's got a giant hog.
action bronson
You think so?
joe rogan
I bet it's shocking.
That's why he's so confident.
I bet he pulls it out.
action bronson
Well, he bought it then.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you showing me?
action bronson
Then he bought it.
There's no doubt.
joe rogan
Realistic nude painting of Donald Trump will make you gouge your eyes out.
Okay.
I don't know what you're putting up there, Jamie.
jamie vernon
It came up.
I thought that's where he got it from.
action bronson
Nah, just by his actions, by the way you, you know, he definitely has micropenis syndrome.
joe rogan
I bet he's got a giant hog.
unidentified
He's too cocky.
action bronson
But that's the thing.
If he has one, he fucking bought it.
And it's one of those where you have to fucking pump your nut.
You know, you...
unidentified
It's like a turkey baster.
action bronson
You fucking pump your dick up.
All the Mexican actors got it from the soap operas.
joe rogan
All of them?
action bronson
That's what I heard.
I was looking into this for when I get older.
joe rogan
That was what Liberace had.
action bronson
The mechanical cock?
joe rogan
Yeah, he had a mechanical pump.
action bronson
It's like the Reebok pump.
joe rogan
It was in the movie.
Did you ever see that movie, the HBO movie?
action bronson
Who was he?
It was like with Zamo?
joe rogan
No, it was Michael Douglas and Matt Damon.
It was called something The Candle Opera Beyond The Candle Opera, is that what it was?
It was fucking amazing.
Really?
Liberace was a freak.
It was amazing.
It's so good.
First of all, Michael Douglas can act his ass off, man.
action bronson
Yeah, he's a good...
Falling Down?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
action bronson
One of my favorites.
joe rogan
But this one, for whatever reason, I think they made it for HBO. Or maybe they just sold it to HBO after they made it.
They might have financed it themselves.
I don't know what happened, but it was incredible.
Behind the Candelabra.
action bronson
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
It's so good, man.
action bronson
That looks incredible.
joe rogan
So fucking good.
And Matt Damon was his boyfriend, and it's just like, holy shit.
action bronson
I'm gonna have to watch this for sure.
joe rogan
Dude, he was a freak.
It's fucking great.
He made his boyfriend get surgery to look more like him.
How about...
action bronson
Wow.
joe rogan
His boyfriend was like this handsome guy, and he made his boyfriend fuck his chin up to be more like Liberace's chin.
How'd him get his chin done, dude?
action bronson
That's fucking sick.
That's love.
Hit more.
joe rogan
No, no, I'm good.
Keep coughing.
You're in a constant state of marijuana.
action bronson
I enjoy it.
joe rogan
Pretty much all day.
action bronson
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
Do you take days off?
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many?
A year?
action bronson
Not many.
joe rogan
Five a year?
action bronson
No.
I can't really count.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Less?
action bronson
Yes.
joe rogan
One a year?
action bronson
Yeah, maybe.
Not really sure.
I think this year I took off, I think maybe two days because I had surgery.
But then I was right back at it.
joe rogan
Well, I would think that it'd probably be good for reducing inflammation, calming you down after surgery.
action bronson
Yeah, but the coughing is no good when it was stomach, you know?
So the coughing is...
joe rogan
Oh, this is when you had hernia?
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's a super common injury, man.
action bronson
This shit happened in Alaska, too.
unidentified
Ooh.
action bronson
Yeah, it was crazy.
I was in Alaska doing a performance and...
I was playing NBA Jam against my boy and he was the Super Sonics and he just fucking dunked on me and I got upset and I felt something in my stomach and from there...
joe rogan
NBA Jam the video game?
action bronson
Yeah, tournament edition.
joe rogan
You got a hernia playing NBA Jam the video game?
action bronson
Can you believe that?
How fucking crazy.
You want to talk about ironic?
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
action bronson
I was the Knicks, he was the Sonics.
I wasn't happy.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
unidentified
Wow.
action bronson
I might be the only one to ever get a hernia from playing a video game.
joe rogan
I doubt it.
action bronson
No?
joe rogan
Nah.
Nah, I bet people have died.
Playing a video game?
Yeah, I bet they've contorted themselves, slipped, broken their head open on a coffee table and died.
Oh yeah, for sure.
Yeah, people have died playing video games.
action bronson
Millions ways of dying.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, getting a hernia because you're freaking out.
That's a slight injury in comparison to, I'm sure, some of the shit that people try to avoid things.
They fall and fall out a window and fall 16 stories to their death.
action bronson
You're right.
joe rogan
I guarantee you shit has happened.
action bronson
You're right.
I've heard about these things.
joe rogan
Yeah.
People are ridiculous.
action bronson
Shit, man.
I'm gonna stay away from fucking Windows, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't go near Windows while you're playing video games.
Don't blow out your hernia.
action bronson
No, defs, please.
joe rogan
If you haven't had a hernia surgery and you're like, oh man, fuck, I don't want to get it operated on, man.
I'm scared it'll take me out.
How much does it take you out?
action bronson
Takes you out for a couple of months.
joe rogan
Does it?
action bronson
Yeah.
I mean, you'll never feel, I don't know, I guess, it's not like I could go back and start power lifting right now.
It's just not going to happen.
joe rogan
How long has it been since surgery?
action bronson
I had it in November.
joe rogan
So a few months.
action bronson
Yeah, I feel good.
Like, now I feel good.
joe rogan
So now you're at the point where it feels normal?
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's good.
action bronson
I feel normal now.
joe rogan
So you would recommend it to someone that also has had a hernia, if they have a hernia?
action bronson
Yeah, just chill out.
joe rogan
Get that surgery?
action bronson
Yeah, absolutely.
If you have the umbilical one in the stomach.
joe rogan
Yeah, you hear that, Doug Stanhope?
Get yourself stitched up, bitch.
action bronson
You know, you're always fucking walking around pushing your stomach in, and it's fucking, it's not cute.
Especially if you have the other one, fucking, your intestines go into your nutsack.
It looks like you got elephantitis.
joe rogan
Yeah, my friend Eddie had it, and he used to have to push down on his abdomen when he would talk, like he was talking loud.
action bronson
Because he'd pop out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
action bronson
It's one of the worst things ever.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you're in a loud place, a jackhammer's going off, he would literally have to push his hand into his abdomen to keep it compressed and go, dude, let's get the fuck out of here.
action bronson
I performed for two or three years already with that...
Popping out.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
action bronson
I don't know how to fuck it.
joe rogan
Oh, so you waited a long time before you got it fixed.
action bronson
Nah, I got it fixed and then it broke one time.
joe rogan
Oh.
action bronson
Now to get it done again, they put a fucking...
Alright, so say the cut is about...
I mean, the hole in your stomach is about an inch or whatever.
They put an inch of mesh over it.
It's obviously going to fucking burst again.
You have to cover it with a little bit bigger piece.
So that's what the Alaskan doctor did.
joe rogan
Oh, so you had a shitty doctor.
action bronson
I had a shitty doctor from Queens.
I tell this story all the time.
I'm in the fucking waiting room.
First, I shit myself because I don't know what they gave me.
Second of all, I made them clean me.
Third of all, I'm on the operating room about to get put under...
Fucking guy goes to the doctor.
Yo, you know who that is?
My dick is so shriveled because I'm scared.
I'm scared that I'm holding the blanket above my stomach.
Obviously, I'm going to get knocked out.
So I'm like, ah, fuck.
I thought that they were going to take pictures of my shriveled dick.
That was the last thought I had before going under surgery.
Think about that.
joe rogan
How rude.
action bronson
Blew my mind.
joe rogan
How rude would that be?
Yeah.
Well, you got to, you know...
People could definitely do that.
action bronson
I'm saying...
joe rogan
If they were terrible people.
action bronson
Whatever.
If they did that, would I have grounds to sue?
joe rogan
Yeah, definitely.
action bronson
For defamation of character?
joe rogan
Definitely.
action bronson
Because I wasn't at my finest.
joe rogan
No, poor representation of your penis.
action bronson
Poor, exactly.
It was terrible.
joe rogan
Well, I know that people have...
There's definitely been people that have gotten in trouble for doing terrible shit to, like, dentists doing terrible shit to their patients when they're under...
action bronson
I heard about that from the Jerky Boys years ago.
unidentified
He knocked me out!
He pulled my pants down and my mouth all bloody!
action bronson
I love that shit.
craig jones
The Jerky Boys, people forgot.
action bronson
That shaped my life.
joe rogan
They forgot how funny some of those fucking recordings were.
Frank Frizzo.
Sizzle chest.
Those were funny, man.
These young kids, if you've never heard of the Jerky Boys, go and listen.
They would call people up and pretend that things were going on.
Greg Fitzsimmons did some of those.
He did some of his own.
And he did one of them where he called this rental car company with this heavy Boston accent and was telling them the car they rented was on fire.
unidentified
And he's got this, the car's on fire!
action bronson
It's fucking Sully!
We went to the fucking gas station!
unidentified
This asshole didn't bring the fucking gas tank!
So we had pots and pans filled with gasoline in the car.
joe rogan
People are going, what?
You had pots and pans filled with gas in the car?
Listen, the car's on fire.
You gotta get over here.
action bronson
Yeah, prank calls were always good.
Chinese restaurants, whatever you could call.
joe rogan
Do you remember Jimmy Kimmel had a television show?
Crank Yankers?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that?
action bronson
Yep.
joe rogan
And it was all prank calls done with like sock puppets.
action bronson
I remember it.
It was funny as fuck.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it was funny.
You used to be able to do stuff like that in Vegas.
Nevada had a different rule.
You could use people's calls for something like that.
Whereas in California, you'd have to tell them, hey, I'm going to use this.
I'm going to record this call.
And then everything after that, you could use.
Anything before you said that, you couldn't use.
action bronson
It would be inadmissible.
joe rogan
Inadmissible.
action bronson
Excuse me, inadmissible.
joe rogan
Yeah, inadmissible.
Yeah.
action bronson
I mean, I know there's a lot, you know, I've been caught out there, like, baby mother trying to start drama with me over the phone, have me on three-way, and I say some crazy shit, and then, like, six of her fucking family members hear it, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
action bronson
That should be inadmissible in life.
joe rogan
So you want the freedom to say crazy shit?
action bronson
I mean, at the end of the day, like, if you provoke me...
joe rogan
It's funny because there's two ways of looking at it, right?
It's like you want the freedom to say crazy shit.
She wants everybody to know how fucking crazy you really are.
action bronson
That's true.
joe rogan
So she wants to have people listen.
You know how crazy this motherfucker is?
action bronson
I'm sick.
Here it is.
Watch.
joe rogan
You're screaming and yelling.
And she's like, see, I told you.
Yeah.
action bronson
I'm an asshole.
Well, pretty much.
I'm a fucking asshole.
joe rogan
Do you want to change?
Do you want a come to Jesus moment?
action bronson
Uh, no.
unidentified
No?
joe rogan
You're happy with who you are?
action bronson
I'm ecstatic.
joe rogan
You don't seem like an asshole right now.
You seem very friendly.
action bronson
Thank you, man.
I appreciate that.
We're high.
joe rogan
That helps.
But I wasn't when we came here and we started playing pool.
You seem like a very nice guy.
action bronson
I was alright.
joe rogan
You're a nice guy.
action bronson
Yeah, I'm decent.
I'm alright.
Once you get to know me, you won't like me anymore.
joe rogan
No.
Really?
action bronson
Nah.
I'm a good guy.
joe rogan
No, I think you're a good guy.
action bronson
I am.
joe rogan
How high are you right now?
action bronson
I'm not that high.
joe rogan
All the way?
action bronson
Nah, you know I'm high, but I'm normal.
I'm level.
joe rogan
I feel like we're getting trapped with the first few words of the sentences we're saying, and then we're committed to these sentences, and we don't know exactly what we were going to say when we started talking, so we're making it up as we go along.
That high.
That's how high we are right now.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
It's all this about good guy, bad guy shit.
You don't even know what you're talking about.
Neither do I. I have no clue.
action bronson
I have no idea what's going on.
joe rogan
So don't commit us to any of these quotes, ladies and gentlemen.
That's my point.
Leave Action alone.
He's not a bad guy.
action bronson
I'm a great guy.
joe rogan
Good pool player too, man.
You know how to play some pool.
action bronson
I'm alright.
joe rogan
You got a good grip on the cue.
action bronson
I'm decent.
I used to be better.
joe rogan
I could tell.
I could tell.
Yeah.
You definitely have a more than casual understanding of how to play.
action bronson
For sure.
I was taught.
I was taught.
I spent some time in pool halls in Queens, you know?
Stood on the wall.
joe rogan
Those places are important.
action bronson
For sure.
joe rogan
They're dying out.
action bronson
Star billiard.
Fucking millennium billiards on Frannie Lou Boulevard with the Asians, with the fucking polo shirt, with the collar popped.
Asians with the collar popped.
Straight up.
Light blue.
Light blue motherfuckers having drag races on the strip in the Mustangs.
unidentified
Yes.
action bronson
Civics?
Acuras?
joe rogan
At Chelsea Billiards in New York, there was always a lot of really strong Asian players that gambled a lot.
action bronson
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
And they would go in there talking mad shit.
There was a bunch of these dudes who were really colorful guys in the pool community that were these Asian cats.
Koreans.
One guy was Chinese.
This one Korean dude, though, gambled like crazy.
And he'd come in talking mad shit.
And he was just like that.
Polo shirt on.
Looking preppy.
Going right into the heart of the jungle in the pool culture, which was Chelsea Billiards.
action bronson
Yep.
It's crazy, man.
joe rogan
It's a funny culture.
action bronson
I don't know.
Asians in general, I feel like they're good at precision games.
joe rogan
Definitely good at pool.
justin wren
Some of the best players in the world are Asian.
action bronson
That girl, the Black Widow?
joe rogan
Yep.
action bronson
She's incredible.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of guys.
Colby Min.
I think he's from Taiwan.
A bunch of guys from Taiwan that are really good.
A lot of Asians, especially Filipinos.
Filipinos, that's pretty much the number one country, other than the United States, of the greatest pool players ever.
action bronson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, for one spot, it's tough to fuck with the Philippines.
They have some of the all-time greatest.
It's a bunch of islands.
I think it's like a thousand islands, right?
Yeah.
Isn't it crazy?
But a gang of them come from the Philippines.
The US GIs apparently dropped pool off over there when they were in World War II. They brought pool tables over to entertain the GIs.
And that's apparently how Filipinos got involved in pool.
That's allegedly the story.
The pool community says.
action bronson
Well, in Vietnam, it seems like the G.I.s brought funk music to fucking Vietnam and Thailand and all those, like wherever they were.
Because there's some funky motherfucking music that comes from the 70s and in the Vietnamese, like this Vietnamese soul music that just sounds like Motherfuckers from Harlem are playing, you know?
unidentified
Wow.
action bronson
Incredible stuff.
joe rogan
Wow.
And it's in their language?
Mm-hmm.
action bronson
Which is even crazier because it sounds amazing.
joe rogan
What is that?
Give me a name or something.
action bronson
Just look up Vietnamese or Thai pop or Vietnamese funk.
There's this one specific album.
I think it's called Saigon Rock.
It's pretty next level.
There's a picture of a woman on it.
On the cover.
joe rogan
I'm gonna find that.
I love it.
action bronson
There it is.
joe rogan
Bam, Jamie.
action bronson
On the ball.
joe rogan
Saigon Rock.
action bronson
Yeah, man.
Hit me with some of this.
joe rogan
Hit me with some of this.
unidentified
Oh my god.
1968 to 1974. You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Holy shit.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
Whoa.
You know what I'm saying?
Wow.
That shit sounds crazy.
Wow.
joe rogan
I was listening to this...
I don't speak Spanish.
Obviously, I don't speak Vietnamese either, so when I'm listening to that, it gives you a little extra kind of cool charge to it, because you don't even know what the fuck they're saying.
action bronson
And you're trying to mimic it.
Just making noises that sound like it.
joe rogan
What is Joey Diaz's band, Jamie?
Joey Diaz's nephew's band?
Or his cousin's band?
I've got them on my music here somewhere.
I'm trying to find it, though.
They're a band out of Cuba.
Joey's family's out of Cuba.
X Alfonso?
jamie vernon
M.A. Alfonso?
joe rogan
I think it's X, though, no?
action bronson
Buena Vista Social Club?
joe rogan
No, that's one of them.
But the band that they're in is X Alfonso.
jamie vernon
This is from his Twitter.
That's where I got that from.
joe rogan
Oh, that's his cousin.
Yeah.
The band...
This I haven't seen, but there's a band that I was listening to.
It's called X Alfonso.
They are fucking badass, dude.
Oh my god.
They're bad, and I don't know what they're saying.
It's really cool because when you're listening to it, these are...
So I guess Joey's cousin's Emmy.
action bronson
Is that it?
jamie vernon
In the bottom here, he comments, and he says, All I know is X Alfonso.
Thank you.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
jamie vernon
Someone asked him what the name of his cousin's rock band was.
He said, all I know is X Alfonso.
This was a couple years ago, too.
joe rogan
Okay.
So I guess that's his cousin.
But whatever, man.
They're fucking badass.
They're cool, too, because I like listening to stuff like this when I write, because I don't know what the fuck they're saying.
It's just cool.
I don't have to follow their narrative.
I can just enjoy it.
I can just enjoy the sound of it.
action bronson
Absolutely.
unidentified
I agree. I agree. I agree.
joe rogan
This is more of a traditional song.
They have some crazy wild rock and roll shit.
See if you can find...
I don't want to give people the wrong impression on what kind of music they have.
action bronson
I fucking speak Spanish.
I understand what they sing.
joe rogan
See if you can find Reverse.
This is a really cool video too.
The video is really amazingly shot.
bright graphics so what they're doing is they're playing this song forward and backward Did you fast forward it to like deep into the song?
Yeah, interesting shit.
So this is Joey Diaz's cousins.
So I guess there's fucking talent in them jeans.
Have you been to Cuba yet?
action bronson
Nope.
joe rogan
Are you going to go?
action bronson
I would like to.
I want to go there before it becomes a tourist trap.
joe rogan
Yeah, as soon as 4G LTE gets there, it's over.
action bronson
Ah, it's over.
I don't want to be able to use my phone.
joe rogan
Well, you can use it now in some spots, apparently.
Apparently there's like some spots where you can go where you could use your phone.
action bronson
It's fucking whack.
joe rogan
It's weird.
But I want them to have phones.
I'm torn.
I think they should be able to have phones.
And the other way our phones won't work is if their phones don't work.
That's true.
action bronson
Yeah, they should have phones, for sure.
Now that you bring it to my attention in that manner, they should definitely have phones.
joe rogan
But there seem to be...
They put together a pretty amazing culture without it.
Shit.
action bronson
It's legendary.
It's classic.
Look at the...
The architecture and all those colors and old cars.
joe rogan
Yeah, the old cars.
action bronson
Just the music.
If you watch that Buena Vista Social Club stuff and that documentary, it's really mind-blowing.
It's actually very beautiful.
The music that they make is unreal.
It's like...
Unbelievable.
The way it's shot is magical.
joe rogan
Yeah, they definitely have a sound and a style of their own.
And to think that all that was taking place over the last 50 or so years...
Just 90 miles away from us.
action bronson
We had no idea.
joe rogan
And on top of that, we weren't even allowed to visit.
For 50 years, we were kept from going to a spot.
And with no reason that makes any sense.
We were kept from going.
You could get in trouble, man.
Like in the 1980s, if you travel to Cuba, you could get in fucking trouble.
The big daddy government told you where you could visit.
Think about that.
You could go to Africa.
You could go to the Congo.
They wouldn't give you a hard time.
But if you go to Cuba, they could lock you up.
Just for visiting.
I want to see what it's like over there.
I want to see some people.
Not allowed.
That's the most ridiculous thing ever.
action bronson
It's sick.
joe rogan
There's no reason.
It's not for your own safety, because there's some super dangerous spots you could go visit right now.
No one's going to stop you from flying to Iraq.
action bronson
Nicaragua.
joe rogan
No one's going to stop you from flying to a lot of places in this world that are in a terrible state.
Of civil unrest.
You can just go.
You can go.
action bronson
Or Cuba, no.
joe rogan
Yeah, can't go to Cuba.
But we can now.
action bronson
It was Russia's fault.
joe rogan
Fucking Russia.
action bronson
I like Russia.
I was there last year.
joe rogan
They went hard at us.
They gave it a shot.
action bronson
It was really gray, to tell you the truth.
joe rogan
Yeah?
action bronson
It was a fucking very gray place, but...
joe rogan
Gray like the weather you mean?
action bronson
Like the color.
joe rogan
The weather, like the way it looked outside?
action bronson
Yeah, like not nice.
joe rogan
Like no sunshine?
Nah.
action bronson
It was sunny out and it was definitely not sunshine.
unidentified
Oh really?
action bronson
It was a hard place.
You could tell there was hard times.
joe rogan
They braided some hard fucking people.
action bronson
Some fucking jaws, man.
Their jaws are fucking defined.
joe rogan
Some of the scariest MMA fighters ever.
action bronson
Fedor.
joe rogan
Yep.
And out of Dagestan.
Dagestan's another place where just developing these killers.
This kid, he's fighting the UFC. Kid, man.
Man, gentleman.
Habib Nurmagomedov.
action bronson
He's an animal.
unidentified
Monster.
joe rogan
Monster.
action bronson
Animal.
joe rogan
Ridiculously good grappler.
Just destroyer.
So fucking, so good.
action bronson
Think about it.
They're all fucking old men over there just fucking wrestling all day long in the barn.
And the fucking wet and the cold.
joe rogan
So all told with this show, do you have a deal to do it for a certain amount of time?
Or are you just doing it for as long as you enjoy it?
action bronson
Right now, it feels like it could be going on for a long time if it hits.
I feel like it's gonna.
People are gonna enjoy it.
It's entertainment, you know?
It's entertaining shit.
It's a different view.
joe rogan
If it's nearly as good as your Instagram page with the photos of it...
action bronson
It's pretty good.
That's light.
The Instagram page is light work.
joe rogan
What was this steak that you ate that you had on your Instagram that, like, aged for seven months?
action bronson
That was at my man Mario Batali's Steakhouse in Vegas where you need to go because you're there a lot.
joe rogan
Seven months?
action bronson
Seven months.
Right in the Venetian.
joe rogan
That's insane.
action bronson
Carne vino.
joe rogan
How do you do that?
How do you age something for seven months?
action bronson
You just leave it there.
You just leave that shit there and it becomes blue.
Oh, look at that.
That was a good picture.
Chris Grosso, my producer, took that picture, man.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
So that's ribeye that was 70-day aged.
And, like, what's the temperature when they age?
action bronson
No, that's seven months.
joe rogan
Excuse me.
Seven months, not 70 days.
action bronson
That's a premature child.
joe rogan
I don't want to believe it.
I don't want to believe it.
Seven months?
What's the temperature they put it at?
action bronson
They fucking grill it very, very hot.
joe rogan
No, I mean to keep it to age it.
action bronson
Oh, the aging.
I think that it was...
They wouldn't tell you exactly, but I would imagine it's in between...
In the 40s.
joe rogan
Really?
30 to 40. How does it not turn into just rot?
action bronson
Because there's so much fat cap on it that the fat protects it and the meat just rots inside and...
All that fatty tissue breaks down and just becomes nutty and unbelievably fucking delicious, you know, and deep and incredible depth of flavor and developing all this earthiness and this umami flavor you can't really explain.
But when you eat it, it just melts and it's like what the fuck is going on?
unidentified
Whoa.
action bronson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Seven months of rot to me.
It's like that if that wasn't real and we found out that the Romans used to do that.
action bronson
Oh they did.
joe rogan
We would be like, of course.
action bronson
But not with refrigeration.
joe rogan
If we just found out that they used to do it, we'd be like, what in the fuck are these assholes doing?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They would let the meat rot away for seven months so that they could slice a sliver off the inside.
action bronson
And present it.
joe rogan
And present that.
I mean how much meat goes to waste?
action bronson
A lot.
There's a lot of waste in that.
joe rogan
Like what percentage you think?
action bronson
Maybe 30 to 40 percent of the product because the bone is huge and then the meat is just, the meat is like this.
That's how much, it's about five inches long and paws and three inches wide.
joe rogan
Out of the whole cow?
action bronson
You know, that's the ribeye.
That's that rib.
It has the big ass bone.
It has that thick ass fat they have to cut off.
joe rogan
So they must lose a substantial amount of meat.
action bronson
Oh, that shit is like a fucking...
It's $200 an inch.
joe rogan
Wow.
So that's like the worst eco-friendly meat.
action bronson
Ever.
But it's sublime.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
action bronson
Sublime tasting.
It's like...
joe rogan
It's bizarre how far people will go out of their way to try to, like, rig the perfect steak to something like this, where you're letting some meat sit for seven months.
That means they had to take it up to, like, a year, and then they go, like, back off.
We can't eat this shit.
action bronson
No, there's 12 months.
joe rogan
No, there's not!
action bronson
There is 12 months, man.
joe rogan
No!
How big is it?
They serve it to you.
action bronson
It's like a fingernail.
Yeah, it's about the same thing.
It's a little bit smaller than that, but...
joe rogan
It's the last remaining cells that haven't turned to total shit.
action bronson
Exactly.
joe rogan
Bacteria.
The fucking new AIDS runs rampant through your cooler.
action bronson
And that is the most delicious bite of food on the planet, apparently.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
action bronson
According to these motherfuckers, and I just had that, the seven month is mmm, ooh, ah, like you can't believe.
joe rogan
And so there's a big difference between the seven month and five months later?
action bronson
100%.
Are you fucking kidding me?
joe rogan
How much better is the one that's a year?
You need to try it.
action bronson
I haven't tried that one yet, but I feel that it's going to be very, you can't have too much.
joe rogan
Is it the size of like a flip phone?
Intense.
action bronson
That's a good piece.
The smaller one.
joe rogan
Oh, a smaller iPhone?
action bronson
But like I said, they're gonna give you like a quarter inch or a half inch piece because it's too OD. It's like eating a whole thing of blue cheese in one bite.
joe rogan
Oh, as far as like the amount of bacteria?
action bronson
No, no, I'm saying like the taste.
joe rogan
Yes, I do.
I love blue cheese.
action bronson
It almost tastes like you're eating silver.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
action bronson
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's because it's fucking fungus.
action bronson
Exactly.
That's incredible.
I love that shit.
I love funky shit.
Cheese.
We were in Paris eating two-year-old, three-year-old, eight-year-old cheeses.
Cheese that's been buried in shit, hay, all kinds of craziness.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Paris folk have really figured out a way to make that stuff stink.
action bronson
It stinks.
joe rogan
They love that stuff.
That was one of the main ingredients we used to use on Fear Factor to make things smell worse.
action bronson
Cheese?
joe rogan
Expensive cheese.
action bronson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they would go to a place in Beverly Hills where they have a...
Just a giant selection of the grossest, rankest, fucking funkiest cheeses where you open the cart and you're like, jeez, what the fuck?
And it's super expensive.
And that stuff, I don't remember what it was called, they would throw that stuff into blenders to make bugs smell worse.
unidentified
Mmm.
action bronson
No wonder they fucking threw up all the time.
unidentified
I was like, ugh!
action bronson
Why are you looking and just start throwing up?
joe rogan
Yeah, the bugs itself was not nearly as bad as bugs blended in with cheese.
action bronson
Ugh.
joe rogan
That funky-ass cheese.
action bronson
Shit.
joe rogan
The smell was just...
Especially if you didn't know what you were doing.
Like, if you smell certain cheeses, if you didn't know what you were eating, you'd be like, what the fuck?
Get this out of here.
But because you know it has a pleasant taste to it, you know it's cheese...
Your brain goes, yeah, oh, this smells funky.
Like, you'll smell some really weird cheese.
He's like, oh, wow, yeah, woo.
But then you eat it, like, whoa.
Oh, you feel the interesting flavors in your mouth.
So you associate it with a good thing, even though it smells funky.
action bronson
There's a lot of cheese that literally smell like six-day-old nut sack, you know?
But like fat nut sack, like when you're overweight, like mine.
And it's not pleasant.
But once you get down to it...
The taste is very sweet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
The taste is different.
action bronson
As is my nutsack, apparently.
joe rogan
How dare you.
Listen, I gotta get the fuck out of here.
action bronson
Let's get out of here.
Let's go eat something.
joe rogan
I can't.
I have plans.
action bronson
You're going into fucking ketosis.
joe rogan
Family stuff I have to do.
action bronson
No, wait.
What are you going into?
You're going into the other one.
What's the other one you don't want to go into?
joe rogan
Oh, I don't know what the other one is.
action bronson
The one you don't want to go into.
joe rogan
Whatever the one, the Carbo one.
action bronson
Psychosis.
joe rogan
Action Bronson, thank you very much, sir.
action bronson
Thank you, bro.
joe rogan
You're the shit.
It was a lot of fun.
It was cool hanging with you.
You're a very funny guy.
action bronson
Good times.
joe rogan
And your show, if people want to watch it, how can they catch it?
action bronson
Fuck That's Delicious.
It's all over the internet right now.
Go to YouTube, type in Fuck That's Delicious.
Type in my name, Action Bronson.
Google me.
February 29th, Viceland launches.
We're taking over History 2 channel.
So, we're going to be all over the place.
March 3rd, Thursdays, 10 o'clock.
Fuck That's Delicious on cable.
Every network possible.
You understand me?
joe rogan
I understand you.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, brother.
Good night tomorrow.
Duncan Trussell tomorrow.
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