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Feb. 22, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - February 21, 2016
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brendan schaub
49:26
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eddie bravo
44:48
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ian mccall
21:22
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joe rogan
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jamie vernon
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rowdy roddy piper
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joe rogan
And we're live!
The Dada 5000 fan club is here for its first big meeting.
Cowboy Cerrone fighting another cowboy, Cowboy Oliveira.
Olivera, we are live.
This is a fight companion.
If you've never heard one of these before, you're like, oh, I'm hoping a podcast is going to talk about space or maybe perhaps birth control.
No, this podcast is mostly bullshitting.
Like, we kind of talk about the fights that are happening, but maybe not.
Edgy Bra is here, a.k.a.
Eddie Bravo, a.k.a.
Master of Tenth Planet Jujitsu.
eddie bravo
Holla.
Thank you for having me.
This is an honor to be here.
joe rogan
Ian motherfucking McCall.
Uncle Creepy in the house.
unidentified
Holla.
ian mccall
What up, bitches?
joe rogan
Holla.
ian mccall
I'm covered in fucking ham grease.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
Yeah, this stuff's good.
This is from Dr. Chris Ryan.
brendan schaub
It is nice.
joe rogan
It's really good for you too.
It's a wild ham that they cure it.
And then, of course, Brendan Sharp.
He's here.
Big Daddy.
That's his new name.
Big Daddy.
Big Daddy.
That was a few hours ago.
brendan schaub
Straight from the hospital.
joe rogan
Yeah, so we're for some fights.
Derek Brunson.
Here we go.
Who's he fighting tonight?
brendan schaub
He's fighting homeboy, the Brazilian cat.
joe rogan
Oh, that guy.
ian mccall
Oh, the one with the nose and the face?
brendan schaub
There you go.
joe rogan
Oh, he's got good jiu-jitsu.
brendan schaub
Really good jiu-jitsu.
ian mccall
And he's been around for a long time.
joe rogan
Yeah, he took a long time off the UFC, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
He got cut.
ian mccall
Yeah, I was down in Brazil.
brendan schaub
It's his second stint.
joe rogan
Yeah, he fought.
Mark Munoz in his last outing.
brendan schaub
Rear naked choked.
Marky Munoz.
joe rogan
It looks like Mark Munoz just does not want to do it anymore.
brendan schaub
We retired.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm glad he did.
brendan schaub
Me too, man.
joe rogan
That guy took some horrible beatings.
brendan schaub
That Machida one, really.
The wide man, the Machida one.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Mark's issue was, you know, Mark was the captain of our team.
Mark's issue was...
I mean, he blew the fuck up between fights.
ian mccall
He's a Pilipino.
brendan schaub
I mean, we're talking, he was just, I mean, he fought at 185, he'd be 240, 250, but not like cool 240, 250. He was like butter bean.
joe rogan
What was he eating?
brendan schaub
Everything.
His feelings.
joe rogan
His feelings.
He had depression issues, right?
It was like part of what was going on in between camps.
brendan schaub
Yeah, like after the Weidman fight, he had super depression issues.
joe rogan
From the loss?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I mean, the nicest guy on earth.
joe rogan
There's the lost depression, and there's also the KO depression.
Very true.
Like, actual physical depression.
And the more they're looking into that shit, you know that dude Dave Mira committed suicide?
brendan schaub
Yeah, the BMX guy.
Legend.
joe rogan
So sad.
Two kids.
brendan schaub
Because those BMXers get a ton of concussions, right?
Slamming their head against the concrete and shit?
joe rogan
Horrible.
Horrible shit.
ian mccall
And they fall from, you know, 30 feet up in the sky, have all that momentum, just whack!
unidentified
Ugh.
Ugh.
ian mccall
I've had some friends, I've watched people, I've had friends in all those sports and hurt themselves.
joe rogan
Yeah, they hurt themselves and they become a different person.
ian mccall
Totally.
joe rogan
Their brain gets so scrambled, they're just not the same again.
brendan schaub
They get super depressed.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a big part of head trauma, is depression.
eddie bravo
Are those guys born without fear?
unidentified
What is it?
eddie bravo
Like those dudes that do crazy BMX stuff and motocross tricks and flips and jumps?
brendan schaub
You can't have any fear, right?
ian mccall
They think we're fucking crazy.
That's the fucked up part.
I've spent my whole life knowing a lot of these kids.
And one of my buddies, same as me, has a couple of kids, his wife, and won a couple of X-Game gold medals.
And he's like, how do you do that?
He's such a nice guy.
He's this tiny, frail, not frail, but he whips a bike around, but he's just smaller.
And he's like, how do you do that?
You're going to hurt somebody.
You're going to fucking hurt yourself, man.
You've got kids.
And I'm like, I saw you this morning, 50 feet above the ground, upside down with a fucking motorcycle.
brendan schaub
What the fuck are you talking about?
Those dudes are nuts.
ian mccall
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Everybody's got their own idea of what's scary, though.
It's weird.
For some people, the scariest thing in the world is public speaking.
brendan schaub
Doing this.
joe rogan
Doing this would be terrifying.
But to us, this is like a hangout.
brendan schaub
Love it.
unidentified
We have to remind ourselves.
joe rogan
With headphones on.
No, it's nothing.
But to me, the idea of jumping, flipping through the air in a motorcycle, fuck all that.
ian mccall
Skydiving is fun, though.
Don't fucking knock it.
brendan schaub
See, I would never do it.
ian mccall
I did a lot of stupid sports.
I put myself in the hospital snowboarding.
I'm tiny, but I've been good at just about everything I've done.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think I'm done skiing, man.
ian mccall
I haven't done it in a while.
joe rogan
I went skiing last week.
Did you really?
I fucking one-wipe hard.
eddie bravo
You're showing snowboarding.
joe rogan
No, skiing.
I like skiing.
But it's not the problem.
The problem is just there's a lot of people on the fucking mountain.
You're coming down the mountain.
eddie bravo
Where'd you go?
joe rogan
There's all these people.
Park City, Utah.
ian mccall
I love it there.
joe rogan
Love it.
eddie bravo
Dude, snowboarding is so much fun.
ian mccall
It's always fun as fuck.
joe rogan
But you're coming down the mountain, and you're like, don't get hurt, don't get hurt, don't get hurt, don't get hurt.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Ooh, I didn't get hurt.
Let's try it again.
Don't get hurt, don't get hurt, don't get hurt.
So there's all these people that are zipping and zagging.
There's people way better than you, and there's people that suck worse than you.
And, you know, you're managing all this stuff as you're going down.
There's so many people on the mountain, man, because it was, I guess, President's Day weekend?
What was last weekend?
brendan schaub
That's President's Day.
joe rogan
So it was super crowded, man.
eddie bravo
Do you fall multiple times every run?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I only fell three times in two days.
eddie bravo
That's fucking good.
joe rogan
One was hard.
brendan schaub
I grew up doing it, man.
Fuck that noise.
joe rogan
I'm going fast, too, man.
eddie bravo
Never go where?
brendan schaub
Skiing, snowboarding.
I grew up snowboarding.
eddie bravo
Man, I miss it.
I want to go before the snow melts.
brendan schaub
You can't pay me enough to do it.
joe rogan
Dude, I'm an asshole.
ian mccall
Well, I try and do things I used to do when I was in high school.
Like, oh my god, I can rodeo that, or I can frontside five that, or do something over this jump, and then I end up...
joe rogan
What are these terms you're using?
ian mccall
Doing flips and spins and...
joe rogan
You do a rodeo?
You flip in the air?
ian mccall
I've been...
Look how fucking small I am.
I can flip over anything.
joe rogan
But you flip doing snowboarding?
unidentified
You flip?
ian mccall
I used to, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god, you're one of those guys.
eddie bravo
That's crazy.
ian mccall
You hit your face?
brendan schaub
You're one of those guys.
ian mccall
I'm totally fine.
unidentified
But I was never that good.
ian mccall
I would just try that stuff.
My brother, on the other hand, was really good.
But of course, he blew out his knee twice, two collarbone breaks...
eddie bravo
Collarbone's always gone.
When you land wrong and you land face down, I've been with guys, friends that are crazy like that, and I would just slide down the mountain.
joe rogan
Collarbone is one of those moves that assholes think they could end a fight with.
Like, Jesse James was on Howard Stern.
He was talking about street fighting.
And he was like, what do I do?
I just hit people in the collarbone.
I'm like, fuck you.
unidentified
Fuck you.
joe rogan
Come hit my collarbone.
Come hit it.
brendan schaub
Get close to my collarbone.
Come hit it.
joe rogan
All I have to do is this.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe if it's your first surprise move.
unidentified
I've never even heard of a guy getting his collarbone broken like that.
brendan schaub
He's not going to get close enough.
He's not going to do shit.
ian mccall
If you have a pipe in your hand.
eddie bravo
Like, if you make believe you don't want to fight, and you're like, dude, let's just talk this out.
joe rogan
Boom!
Okay, a straight punch to collarbone ain't doing jack shit.
It's not doing jack shit.
brendan schaub
To the sternum, it's going to fuck you up.
joe rogan
Maybe.
You think that guy can punch?
He's just so big.
brendan schaub
Let's say his big ass.
joe rogan
Guarantee you that guy punches like a bitch.
Guarantee you.
brendan schaub
One from downtown to the sternum?
joe rogan
From downtown if you're standing there waiting for it.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
You're talking to a girl and he's like, hey, boom!
ian mccall
His buddy distraction comes up and he's fucking cautious.
joe rogan
People talk tough guy stuff when they say, like, I'll hit a guy in the sternum or I'll hit a guy in the collarbone.
I'm like, just stop talking.
brendan schaub
Are you talking about Steven Seagal 101?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's what you're talking about, son.
eddie bravo
Generally, people say...
brendan schaub
That's his life.
joe rogan
Well, Eddie Bravo and I had the worst guy ever.
There was a guy who told us he would grab your thumbnail.
He would pinch down your thumbnail.
Do you remember that fucking guy, Vinny?
Remember that guy Vinny from the Comedy Store?
Remember the fake jujitsu guy?
I do remember him, yeah.
Remember that guy?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
He would grab your thumb and press down your thumbnail.
He was convinced that he...
I'll just grab you.
I'll grab you like this.
There's a pressure point on the tip of your thumb.
It's intolerable.
The pain is intolerable.
And I'm like, this motherfucker.
Like, you just want to hit him with a frying pan.
brendan schaub
He grabbed my thumb.
joe rogan
He grabbed it.
He grabbed it.
eddie bravo
He grabbed my thumb.
ian mccall
He squeezed the shit out of my dick.
Let me show you.
joe rogan
But it hurts.
It doesn't feel good.
But it doesn't even make you scream.
brendan schaub
It doesn't make sense.
joe rogan
It doesn't make any sense.
First of all, good luck holding on to it.
It's just the tip of your thumb.
brendan schaub
Dude, if I'm that guy and I'm selling that lie to chicks to get laid, and Joe Rogan comes around, I'm not saying shit.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, all you have to do is suck your thumbs before you fight him and he's doomed.
Get them all slippery.
Lube up your thumbs.
Just stop.
Is this James Krause?
Oh, okay.
He's good, dude.
I like that guy.
brendan schaub
Fun fights tonight.
joe rogan
Who's he fighting?
Shane Campbell?
Is that who he's fighting?
brendan schaub
The fight I wanted to see most was that...
What's his name?
Cody and that Linker.
ian mccall
Oh, Lineker?
joe rogan
Yes.
ian mccall
Cody Goldberg.
unidentified
That was the fight.
joe rogan
Lineker pulled out.
brendan schaub
He got sick.
joe rogan
Is that what happened?
brendan schaub
The Brazilian, what's it called?
eddie bravo
Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
joe rogan
He got Zika?
brendan schaub
Yes.
eddie bravo
No.
brendan schaub
No, not Zika.
What is it?
ian mccall
You got something bad.
Malaria?
brendan schaub
Nope, not malaria.
Something like...
AIDS? Nope.
joe rogan
Gonorrhea?
brendan schaub
Man, that would be cool.
eddie bravo
Leprosy?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Steroids?
ian mccall
They allow you to fight with herpes, believe me.
Damn, son!
Okay.
Just kidding.
Wink.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he got it.
It was gone.
You get it from mosquitoes out there.
eddie bravo
But you know what?
The guy who stepped in his place is Augusto Mendes, Taquino.
unidentified
Correct.
eddie bravo
That guy beat Hoffa Mendes to win the world championship.
So the guy, Taquino, is fighting fucking tonight.
brendan schaub
Cody hits like a tank, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
This guy's a tank though.
joe rogan
He was preparing for a guy with no jiu-jitsu, and all of a sudden he's got a guy who's one of the best jiu-jitsu artists in the fucking world.
brendan schaub
And he's big.
ian mccall
He didn't make weight either.
eddie bravo
Takino is a fucking tank whose base...
He's not like a regular jiu-jitsu guy.
He's known for his ultimate balance and base.
He's gonna be on top of your head.
Damn, that sucks for Cody.
Sucks hard for Cody.
brendan schaub
Hey, son.
eddie bravo
I don't know anything about his striking.
brendan schaub
Do you have a promising career?
unidentified
Check this shit out.
eddie bravo
I don't know anything about his striking.
His striking could be garbage.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
But, man.
brendan schaub
Cody can wrestle, too.
ian mccall
He wrestled D1 or no?
brendan schaub
No.
I hate saying this shit because I played basketball in high school, so I never called myself a basketball player.
But he wrestled in high school.
He's really good.
And he had all these boxing fights and kickboxing, amateur MMA. He definitely doesn't suck.
ian mccall
He's good, man.
joe rogan
Heavy hands.
eddie bravo
Extra Little Fact Taquino used to date Mackenzie Dern.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm not mad at her at all.
joe rogan
Easy with the dirt boys.
brendan schaub
Mackenzie?
She's a jiu-jitsu girl, right?
eddie bravo
Yeah, she's the best jiu-jitsu girl on the planet.
joe rogan
And she's hot.
brendan schaub
By far the hottest girl to ever grace a gi.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Kira Gracie?
She's pretty goddamn hot, too.
brendan schaub
She's really hot.
I'd take McKenzie.
unidentified
Different bodies.
brendan schaub
Because then you've got to deal with all the Gracies if you date her.
You've got to think about that shit.
eddie bravo
That's even better.
brendan schaub
That's tough, man.
It's a lot of pressure.
Family functions.
joe rogan
Become one of the family.
Bring the show.
brendan schaub
I've got to do the Gracie diet and shit all the time.
joe rogan
You've got to only watermelon by yourself.
eddie bravo
Speaking of the Gracies, Big...
Mad props to Hoist Gracie, even though there was some crazy thing with Ken Shamrock.
Hoist went out there and did what he does and...
brendan schaub
Did what he does?
Knee guys to the balls?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Oh, come on.
Was that really...
brendan schaub
If he submitted him, you could say, did what he does.
eddie bravo
He took him down and beat the shit out of him.
joe rogan
If Ken was just wearing...
eddie bravo
Six straight strikes to the face.
Six solid...
ian mccall
You're just saying that because he doesn't like you.
joe rogan
You're trying to win him back.
eddie bravo
You're trying to win him back.
ian mccall
Dad!
eddie bravo
Maybe he'll forgive me.
ian mccall
Please love me.
eddie bravo
Yeah, maybe he'll forgive me.
joe rogan
No, but I'll just call it like I see it.
He showed some serious K-1 or K-3 striking.
K-4?
Maybe K-5?
eddie bravo
You didn't think his footwork was alright?
joe rogan
I thought Ken was really hesitant, standing on the outside.
I thought Ken would light him up.
I'm saying Ken, compared to Hoist's footwear, Hoist wasn't doing much.
There's no threat to his striking, so I was like super surprised that Ken wasn't lighting him up.
Because if you go back to like Ken that fought Fujita, Ken had some fucking legit leg kicks, some good power.
Yeah, but he...
ian mccall
25 years ago.
joe rogan
He's not...
A cripple?
I mean, where did the body go?
He's got to have that power.
He's got to have that ability.
brendan schaub
Those aren't the same joints, my man.
joe rogan
Maybe.
I mean, I don't know what's going on with his body, but I would have thought Ken would have fucked his legs up.
If I was in Ken's corner, I would say, you're going to kick the shit out of this dude's legs.
He's no threat with punches.
It's not like he's going to drop you with one straight right hand.
So what you do is, you paw with the hands, and you come in and you throw bomb leg kicks.
unidentified
Dengue fever.
joe rogan
Ooh, that's no joke.
brendan schaub
That's not fun.
joe rogan
That kills motherfuckers.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would have thought Ken would have just lit those legs on fire.
eddie bravo
But at the same time, Hoist's chance was on the ground.
He didn't want to get taken down.
ian mccall
He had dengue fever, too.
joe rogan
He might have got that, too.
He might have got everything.
eddie bravo
If Hoist's number one strategy was to take a guy down, that would make you hesitant throwing leg kicks, right?
brendan schaub
Not if you're You're Ken Shamrock with his wrestling background and his striking.
Fuck a takedown from Hoist Gracie.
joe rogan
Yeah, Hoist is not like a D1 wrestler who's 20 years old.
eddie bravo
But he clenches up and trips.
He clenches up and trips.
He knows how to do that.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this.
James Krause with the...
eddie bravo
I'm calling like I see it, Brendan.
Yeah, buddy.
brendan schaub
He's got it.
He's snug as fuck.
joe rogan
He's got it.
Oh, that's a tap.
brendan schaub
Is it a tap?
Nope.
End of the round.
Yep.
joe rogan
End of the round.
brendan schaub
Hey, has there ever been a bigger shit show than that Bellator fight?
unidentified
Never.
brendan schaub
I think it put our sport back seven years.
joe rogan
Nah.
Just put Bellator back.
brendan schaub
Free agents now are going to go, Bellator?
Fuck, man.
joe rogan
Fuck that.
brendan schaub
How about Dada?
Went to the hospital.
joe rogan
Yeah, his heart stopped.
brendan schaub
Gotta die!
joe rogan
It was filled with cheeseburgers and fried chicken and orange soda.
brendan schaub
Is there any way you could have trained for that fight?
Is there any way?
joe rogan
There's no way he trained.
ian mccall
No, no way.
He thought he was just...
joe rogan
I mean, he might have trained for a couple of days.
brendan schaub
They said he lost 40 pounds.
joe rogan
Well, that's not good.
You should have lost 40 pounds before.
It's not like you didn't know you were going to do this.
brendan schaub
You don't do that in the backyards.
joe rogan
Well, how about Kimbo?
What the fuck was going on with him?
That wasn't even amateur hours.
If it's an amateur fight, you'd be chomping at the bit to get at those guys.
But I hope they're in my bracket.
All you have to do is dance around for a few minutes.
These guys are toast.
brendan schaub
I agree.
ian mccall
A low-level college wrestler would have fucked those dudes up.
joe rogan
Fuck the college wrestlers.
How about the one exchange where Dada just sort of laid down and Kimbo just rolled over on top of him?
He just laid down.
brendan schaub
That hurt my soul.
joe rogan
They just laid down.
brendan schaub
The fight hurt my soul.
joe rogan
There was no takedown.
It was like, let's just take this to the ground.
I wonder if they were talking to each other.
You want to take this to the ground, homie?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is this a chill dog?
Can we chill?
brendan schaub
How about Kimbo and Mal?
Dude, I felt like throwing up.
I got done, I was like, ah.
joe rogan
Early in the first round, though, it didn't look so bad.
I was like, okay, Kimbo's got some ground skills.
I thought, okay, this guy's going to get fucked up.
Kimbo's going to pound him out, but zero gas.
brendan schaub
Have you seen the documentary that Dada comes from, Dog Fights?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's my friend Billy Corbin.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Billy Corbin, yeah.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
brendan schaub
He's the best.
joe rogan
You had him on your podcast, right?
brendan schaub
We had him on your podcast, yeah.
joe rogan
Billy's great.
brendan schaub
Billy's great.
joe rogan
And he's the guy who did Cooking Cowboys.
brendan schaub
Yes, and the U. Yes.
joe rogan
He's great.
Billy's awesome.
brendan schaub
But that's where I was like, damn, Dada has some hands, man.
This guy's kind of cool.
His haircut's cool.
joe rogan
He's got some hands.
Yeah, I mean, he was fighting.
Look, that's the thing about can crushers.
You look awesome if you're fighting nobody.
brendan schaub
But he's 2-0.
You come from fighting on the back streets of Miami, and then you're fucking launched into Bellator.
joe rogan
Not only that, he's 2-0, and I think his last opponent, whoever was talking about it on the broadcast, was talking about the record of his last opponent.
It was like, you know, 0-16.
eddie bravo
That was like a midget fight, you know what I mean?
It's like...
You know what that showed?
That showed that maybe Bellator just was a little too eager to try to do things that the UFC wasn't willing to do.
It's the pride thing, you know what I mean?
When you come out, you have Tyson commentating and he's drunk.
All the stuff that the UFC wouldn't do, Bellator's like, we're gonna do it.
brendan schaub
You can't do that, man.
joe rogan
Do you think Tyson was drunk?
brendan schaub
He was on something.
He was on some pills.
He was on some shit.
joe rogan
I think he might have been on a whole career of getting punched in the head.
brendan schaub
You think?
Hopefully when I have brain trauma like that catches up, I hope I'm like that.
He was funny.
eddie bravo
Mike Tyson commentating is hilarious.
joe rogan
He was funny.
eddie bravo
Which way did he go?
unidentified
Which way did he go?
eddie bravo
I'm totally for that.
joe rogan
When Melvin Gillard got knocked out, he's like, which way did he go?
Which way did he go?
He's ruthless.
Ruthless mocking dudes getting teed off on.
ian mccall
He's like, look where you're going to be eventually.
Look at me.
brendan schaub
But just in the grand scheme of things like Bellator, they signed Ben Henderson, who's a fucking monster.
joe rogan
That's good.
brendan schaub
And you want to get all these other guys to come over.
And Phil Davis.
So they're making momentum.
Then you put that product out.
If I'm a free agent, I'm like, fuck, man.
joe rogan
I don't want to be part of that.
I think they eventually got to let all that stuff go.
They can't keep doing those.
unidentified
I agree.
joe rogan
They should stop.
This is the last one.
brendan schaub
Stop the sideshow.
joe rogan
Because if they keep doing it, they're going to really lose credibility.
There's a lot of things they need to do.
That name, they're sticking with that stupid fucking name and they're calling it Bellator Kickboxing too.
brendan schaub
Hey man, let's not do that.
joe rogan
Bellator is a dumb name.
brendan schaub
Who runs the PR for fuck's sakes?
joe rogan
You rest assured, you're absolutely only going to get people that are fans of Bellator already.
They're going to take it seriously and look for it.
People that are flipping through the channels, when they see Bellator live, what does that mean?
What does that mean?
It doesn't mean anything.
But if you have MMA like, oh, Kraus got it again.
Damn, this dude knows how to turn away from chokes.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's nasty at getting out.
joe rogan
But Kraus is all over him.
eddie bravo
He's nasty at surviving.
joe rogan
But I'm just thinking, if they just turned it into MMA, oh, look at this, Kraus hits an armbar.
Kraus is fucking ferocious on the ground.
This dude's got his back now.
If they just turned it into MMA, everybody knows what MMA is.
unidentified
I agree.
joe rogan
It's Bellator MMA. Yeah, but it's Bellator.
It's a dumb name.
eddie bravo
I don't think the name matters.
Ryzen.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
eddie bravo
Pride.
joe rogan
Yeah, Ryzen didn't mean shit.
eddie bravo
You get used to it.
brendan schaub
How's Ryzen and Pride doing, Eddie?
eddie bravo
Huh?
brendan schaub
How's Ryzen and Pride doing?
eddie bravo
Oh, because of their name they failed?
brendan schaub
It's details, my man.
It's details.
Well, it starts with a goddamn name.
eddie bravo
I thought it was because of the Yakuza, but I guess it's...
joe rogan
Do you pay attention to the sneaky shit that the fucking Athletic Commission did to Vanderlei?
Sneaky ass shit.
Vanderlei signs a fight with Fedor.
The UFC lets him go, okay?
So Vanderlei finally can make some money.
The dude hasn't been able to make any money in over a year.
I saw his Instagram.
It's like 17 months.
He hasn't been able to make a dime, right?
So he's struggling.
And the Athletic Commission totally did him dirty.
They suspended him for his entire career.
The judge overrules it, says that you can't do that.
You can't just suspend a guy forever.
You can't just deny him a right to make a living.
Vandele gets a release from the UFC, signs to fight Fedor and Ryzen.
It's a big payday for him.
brendan schaub
I'll watch that.
joe rogan
Finally, he's gonna get some money, right?
Of course.
You know what the Athletic Commission does?
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
They fucking suspend him for three years.
So they say, okay, we are going to change your suspension from a lifetime ban three years, so it's retroactive.
So he still has a year and a half to go, so he can't take this fight.
brendan schaub
Hold up, but Ryzen's in where?
Japan?
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
eddie bravo
Why?
joe rogan
If he goes over there and takes that fight, they'll view it as a violation.
He won't be able to fight in the United States.
brendan schaub
Fuck it!
joe rogan
But it doesn't matter.
He'll never be able to fight in the United States, so he's stuck over there.
Yeah, he should say fuck it.
But here's why he shouldn't.
Bellator will probably pay him some serious fucking money.
Some serious fucking money.
eddie bravo
How old will he be in a year and a half?
joe rogan
Yeah, but he's not a year and a half older.
Bellator, let's take it international then.
Yeah, but Ryzen ain't gonna be around, son.
Ryzen doesn't have much time.
And what's he gonna do?
He's gonna fight for one FC? No one watches that.
You know, Ben Askren's been whooping Chinese dudes' asses over there for a year and a half.
No one sees shit.
brendan schaub
And can't get a fucking write-up on anything.
joe rogan
No, he talks about it.
Ben Askren's ragdolling, beating the fuck out of dudes.
I like they allow him to do his knees on the ground.
eddie bravo
Isn't Crone fighting in 1FC or is that Ryzen?
joe rogan
No, he's fighting in Ryzen too.
brendan schaub
His last fight was Ryzen.
eddie bravo
But before that was 1FC, right?
unidentified
Correct.
And Aoki's fighting in 1FC too?
eddie bravo
I think his first fight was 1FC. I'm pretty sure.
brendan schaub
It was in Asia.
joe rogan
Maybe it was another organization.
brendan schaub
Yeah, his first fight was NFC. His last fight was Ryzen though.
But if I'm Wanderlei, what are you going to do, wait around?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
brendan schaub
The fight in the States?
joe rogan
I just think it's dirty what the Athletic Commission did.
brendan schaub
They're fucked up.
joe rogan
They suspended him right after he takes his fight.
So by violating it, essentially they're playing little games.
Because by him violating that, they're really like...
brendan schaub
They get what they want.
joe rogan
Yeah, they get what they want.
brendan schaub
Wanderlei's bigger over there.
joe rogan
Yeah, but all they had to do, like how many months away is that fight?
Like it's in August, right?
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
At least what he posted.
March, April, May, June, July, August.
If they just gave him two years, he would have been out.
He would have been done at the end of July, he would have been able to fight, and they gave him an extra year, so he's fucked.
You know what, man?
Two years is what you're supposed to get, because that's what you would have got if he tested positive.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
That's what Gleason did.
He ran.
Let's pretend he was positive.
Pretend he was positive, then he's two years, you fine him for whatever, and you let the guy have a goddamn fucking career.
This is a game.
I think it's a game.
brendan schaub
He's also a legend.
joe rogan
Yes.
You son of a bitch.
First of all, why is it three years when he didn't test positive if it's two years if he did test positive?
That doesn't make any sense.
Two years is the right amount.
If a guy runs from a test, assume he's positive.
He definitely shouldn't have ran.
He definitely should be penalized.
Every fighter who runs from a test should be penalized as if they tested positive.
So if that's the case, why three years?
Why not two?
brendan schaub
Didn't ovary run from a test?
joe rogan
No.
ian mccall
He tested positive.
joe rogan
No, he tested positive.
ian mccall
Horsemeat.
joe rogan
Yeah, horsemeat.
ian mccall
I don't know why he did a German voice.
brendan schaub
Is that what it was?
joe rogan
It's a mustache.
brendan schaub
Dude, back to Bellator.
How about your boy Justin Wren wants to fight Kimbo Slice?
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Kimbo Slice is going night-night.
Because Justin Wren, you can hit that dude in the head with a rock.
brendan schaub
He's a gorilla.
I don't think Justin knocks him out.
I think Justin takes him down and beats his beard in.
joe rogan
He beats the shit out of him.
He takes him down if he wants to, but if he's standing with him, all he has to do is keep moving.
brendan schaub
But you know, the reason Justin wants to fight is because it's such a big fight so he can build wells in fucking Africa.
That's why he wants such a mainstream fight.
He's different than other dudes.
ian mccall
That's why he deserves it, too.
joe rogan
He deserves it.
He's awesome.
brendan schaub
And if Bellator's smart, they should do it.
It's a good story, especially Kimbo's last fight.
Let's figure this out.
joe rogan
It might not be his last fight.
brendan schaub
Well, no.
I'm just saying.
joe rogan
It should be his last fight.
unidentified
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
It's whatever.
You know Justin and Kimbo were supposed to fight on Ultimate Fighter 10?
It was lined up, and then the suits came in.
They were supposed to fight.
The week of the fight, the suits came in like, hey, Justin.
They sat Justin down like...
For ratings, we gotta do this, and then they put in Roy Nelson.
joe rogan
Well, that's even dumber, because Roy Nelson is very fucking skilled.
brendan schaub
Well, no, they wanted Roy to beat him.
Yeah, they wanted Roy to beat him.
I mean, it's Roy Nelson.
joe rogan
Yeah, but nobody knew who Roy was back then.
brendan schaub
Ah, man, Roy's...
I mean, he's pretty big.
I don't think they wanted Kimbo to do well, is what I'm trying to tell you.
joe rogan
Oh, like the UFC didn't want Kimbo to do well.
brendan schaub
Because they knew he was going to lose, because, to be honest, anyone with a good...
Set of skills, we're going to beat Kimbo.
So whoever got that first crack at him, he was probably going to get fucked up.
So he fought Justin.
Justin would be and become a star.
Roy, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So it's a big fight.
They didn't want him to do well.
Roy was by far the worst matchup.
Justin was supposed to fight him.
The coaches had it all matched up.
They yanked Justin.
Insert fucking Roy Nelson with 30 fights.
Enjoy that, Kimbo.
joe rogan
Yeah, enjoy getting crucifixed.
brendan schaub
Yeah, exactly.
So now Justin's like, yo, we're supposed to fight.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I'm trying to build some fucking wells.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's definitely got different motivation than everybody else.
brendan schaub
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
What a great guy he is.
unidentified
God, such a better guy than me.
Because I would take that money and buy watches and cars and shit.
brendan schaub
There's no wells.
joe rogan
There's no water.
Oh, yo, yo, yo.
We've got some bad news.
I can't get the well equipment to Africa.
brendan schaub
What happened?
Some rims.
joe rogan
What's going on with your Instagram page?
How much does that watch cost?
Exactly the same amount as a well.
brendan schaub
It's weird.
Dude, I bought myself a gift from a charity.
I bought myself a gift for having a baby.
I guess you get the model.
What about me?
Bought myself a Rolex, son.
unidentified
What about me?
Yeah, I'm like, what about me?
brendan schaub
I showed up.
My dad's like, what's that?
I'm like, I got a push gift, Ed.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
brendan schaub
Yeah, for reals.
joe rogan
A push gift.
Yeah, girls get push gifts.
Oh, shit.
There's two dads.
Krause is back.
Deep.
Two hooks in.
Oh, shit.
Flattened out.
eddie bravo
Nope.
joe rogan
Crouse escape!
Back to his back!
eddie bravo
You can escape into an arm triangle right there.
brendan schaub
As soon as he turns.
He's too smart for that son.
joe rogan
He's got one or the other.
eddie bravo
He's going to have his back taken still.
brendan schaub
Dude, that McGregor Dos Anjos makes my dick hard.
Even that fly right there.
joe rogan
It makes other people's dicks hard.
brendan schaub
I'm going to say something crazy, Joe.
You ready for this?
joe rogan
Okay.
brendan schaub
I think the toughest matchup possible in the UFC for McGregor is Dos Anjos.
I think the easier fight is Robbie Lawler for him.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
Suck on that.
Yeah.
ian mccall
And I've been thinking about that a lot lately.
And it's...
God, I hate everyone fucking talking about this right now.
And I was just putting two and two together.
I'm like, well, if he does knock out Dasanio's...
I was like, wow.
Him and Robbie are going to fucking throw down.
eddie bravo
No, they're not.
brendan schaub
Robbie's not going to touch him.
joe rogan
You don't think so?
brendan schaub
Not a chance.
joe rogan
Wow.
You think he's just going to move around a while?
brendan schaub
I think he fucks Robbie up.
And I love Robbie.
Style-wise, I think he fucks Robbie up.
eddie bravo
Where does Conor stop?
At 170. He fucks everybody up at 170. Why wouldn't he go 185?
He's already stating publicly that he's not afraid of any weight class.
joe rogan
Here's what I have to say to everybody.
Everybody at 170, stay the fuck away from Wonderboy.
That dude's got the fucking glow right now.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
He's got the Bruce Leroy glow.
brendan schaub
That's my motherfucker.
eddie bravo
Just stay the fuck away.
I agree.
joe rogan
What he did to Johnny Hendrix should be against the law.
They should have shut the lights off.
They should have separated them and go, whoa, whoa, whoa, not tonight.
unidentified
Not tonight, bro.
joe rogan
We need to stop this.
unidentified
Hendrix came in shape, had all his fucking shit figured out.
eddie bravo
How big is karate right now?
Karate is strong as fuck right now.
joe rogan
It's been years that sport karate has this one element that no one knows how to fuck with.
These blitz guys.
These Raymond Daniels guys that jump in and attack and then jump out before you can do anything about it.
And if you don't have some serious Nicky Holtzkin style or Joseph Valtellini style Muay Thai skills where you can get hands up high and chop those legs.
brendan schaub
No one has that right now.
joe rogan
No one has that.
brendan schaub
No one in the UFC has it right now.
unidentified
Not at that level.
joe rogan
Look at what Raymond Daniels does to everybody except Nicky Holtzkin and Joseph Valtellino in glory.
Valtellini was the first guy exposed it.
Chopped those legs down.
Hands up high.
Good guard.
Attack, attack, attack the legs.
And eventually chop them down.
And he head kicks him and stops him.
And the same thing with Nicky Holtzkin.
It's that super solid Muay Thai base.
But everybody else gets 360 wheel kicked in the head.
He hits you with that jumping side kick.
Touches you with the side kick and then spins the back kick to the face.
brendan schaub
So I think Wonderboy right now beats everyone.
The worst matchup for him?
Roy McDonald.
He's too smart.
I think he grinds him out.
joe rogan
Guess who he's fighting next.
brendan schaub
Fuck off.
Roy McDonald?
joe rogan
That's what I'm hearing.
ian mccall
I could see Roy throwing a real heavy boy tie.
brendan schaub
I fucking hate that for him.
Let's let Wonderboy do his thing!
Why would you give him the worst matchup possible?
joe rogan
Why wouldn't you give Roy an opportunity to stop the hype train if he's believing it so strongly?
brendan schaub
There you go.
joe rogan
Okay, what do you think Roy's gonna be able to do to him?
unidentified
He just wants to wear his skin, that's all.
ian mccall
I just want to, you know, carry him into the woods.
joe rogan
I don't think the UFC has announced that fight because I don't know if it's 100%.
brendan schaub
It's a rumor.
I saw it was a rumor.
joe rogan
That's why I mentioned it.
I might have done a little fucking...
brendan schaub
No, it's a rumor.
joe rogan
I saw it before.
I might have done a video where I hyped it up already.
That hasn't aired yet?
It might have happened.
I mean, I don't remember.
Might be breaking news.
brendan schaub
There you go.
Cheeto fingers.
Write that one.
ian mccall
Speaking of...
eddie bravo
Advancing.
15%.
brendan schaub
I think Roy McDonald's too smart to fall into his traps.
joe rogan
Okay, so what does he do?
He's got to kickbox with them when they're on the outside.
And that's where you're fucked.
brendan schaub
His jab is fucking nasty.
And then as soon as Roy gets comfortable...
joe rogan
But he fucks everybody.
What is that?
That's a giant one, dude.
That's the biggest battery I've ever seen on one of those things.
That thing is like a paper towel roll.
unidentified
Just put it in your mouth.
brendan schaub
Just put it in your mouth.
joe rogan
How long does that battery last?
At least it lasts a year.
ian mccall
A while, I don't know.
unidentified
I have no idea.
joe rogan
You could go fucking hiking in the Alps with that battery.
I love this.
ian mccall
Like, Q asked earlier, do you smoke pot?
I was like, I smoke a lot of pot.
brendan schaub
Smoked a lot.
ian mccall
No one ever knew.
brendan schaub
I knew that about you.
I knew that about you.
ian mccall
You knew that, yeah.
eddie bravo
Maybe I knew and I forgot.
I figured you didn't.
brendan schaub
Oh, this is legit.
I'm good, man.
I have this thing.
ian mccall
I'll get fired from life.
I'll get fired from life.
brendan schaub
I'll say some outrageous shit.
ian mccall
What a shitty dad!
joe rogan
That's good, dude.
That's good.
brendan schaub
Roy Wonderboy.
That's interesting, man.
joe rogan
It may happen.
It may not.
Who knows?
We'll find out soon.
eddie bravo
Connor Wonderboy.
Shit.
joe rogan
Connor Wonderboy.
eddie bravo
Here's the thing.
joe rogan
You got a kick with Wonderboy, and Connor's kicks are just nowhere near the level of Wonderboy's.
It's just not even in the same...
brendan schaub
Are you sure about that?
joe rogan
I'm 100% sure about that.
brendan schaub
His hands are better than Wonderboy's, I think.
joe rogan
Wonderboy's got some fucking vicious hands.
eddie bravo
How tall is Wonderboy?
joe rogan
Knockout power.
What Connor has in that left hand is what, for us, a hobby likes to call the touch of death.
brendan schaub
At 145, not 55 and 70. You're talking about bigger boys.
joe rogan
He was knocking motherfuckers dead at 155 with one punch.
He was doing it all throughout England.
I mean, I don't know if he could do that in the UFC at 155. Different level.
brendan schaub
Dos Anjos is a big motherfucker.
joe rogan
You are right.
Dos Anjos is a beast.
But I believe the kind of power that Conor has, he just has that undeniable power.
brendan schaub
Preach.
Because I hope he does.
Preach.
joe rogan
It's undeniable.
I just don't know if he's going to be able to do it.
Because here's the thing about Dos Anjos.
Dos Anjos is a gap closer.
That motherfucker closes gaps on you before you even realize he's on top of you.
He did it to Donald and he did it to Pettis.
Two guys who are pretty fucking skillful strikers.
He closes that distance on you in a surprising way.
And there's no hesitation.
No hesitation.
His grappling is outstanding.
And there's no hesitation in his game.
And with that Nick Curzon dude training him, man, he's got 15 gas tanks.
They're all ready.
They're all ready to go.
brendan schaub
Does he have a movement coach, though?
joe rogan
He's the movement coach.
They're doing all these crazy plyometric drills.
Everything is plyometrics.
And then you've got, you know, you've got fucking, he's got King's MMA, right?
brendan schaub
Oh, with Cordero?
joe rogan
Yeah, Rafael Cordero is one of the greatest striking instructors in the world.
He's got Fabrizio Verdum there.
He's got a shitload of animals to train with.
brendan schaub
No, he's a complete animal.
Honestly, as far as match-up-wise, you break the fight down, I can't think of a worse match-up for Conor.
It's a great match-up.
They're both in their prime.
joe rogan
If he beats him, he goes right to Robbie Lawler for UFC 200. And the world explodes.
unidentified
Dude, if he beats him, he'd be the greatest UFC fighter of all time.
joe rogan
Yes!
unidentified
Of all time!
ian mccall
Yes, ever.
joe rogan
Alright, here's an argument that I was having with somebody.
This is a discussion.
This is a legit question.
Mighty Mouse right now, do you agree he's the best pound-for-pound guy?
No, too small.
Sorry, brother.
brendan schaub
Wow.
joe rogan
How dare you?
How dare you?
But that's what pound for pound is.
brendan schaub
Because the risk, the reward, he can make mistakes.
He's destroying the competition.
joe rogan
But he couldn't make mistakes with Dotson.
Dotson could knock you dead with one shot.
brendan schaub
Different.
Different than Jon Jones, Gustafson, DC. Different than Rumble.
Rumble.
joe rogan
I disagree with Gustafson.
I don't think Gustafson knocks you dead with one punch any easier than Dotson does.
Matter of fact, I think Dotson offers more danger on the feet.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
joe rogan
Okay.
But we're allowed to.
Yeah, that's what we're here for.
You can be wrong, that's fine.
Okay, so at the very least, he's number two pound for pound best in the world.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Okay.
Alright, I think he's number one.
A lot of other people think he's number one, including Boss Rootin, but what the fuck's he now, right?
brendan schaub
So, Joe Rogan Boss Rootin.
unidentified
It makes sense.
joe rogan
So, if Cejudo beats him...
He's an Olympic gold medalist in wrestling.
So he becomes the first Olympic gold medalist in wrestling that wins a flyweight title.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
And he beats arguably the best guy ever.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
If Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson is the best guy right now, and you've fought him before.
ian mccall
Yes.
joe rogan
I know you look at him like today, and you look at what he's been able to do over his last few fights, it's hard to argue a more dominant champion.
He doesn't get hit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Doesn't get hit by the best guys in the world.
brendan schaub
Don McCruz beat him.
joe rogan
Yes, a long time ago at 135. He's a different fighter then.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying.
joe rogan
Ian arguably won as well.
I'll tell you that.
brendan schaub
That's why he's not my pound for pound number one.
joe rogan
But that's a long time ago.
So Del Sanchez got choked out by Clay Guida.
brendan schaub
Who's Jon Jones lost to?
joe rogan
It's true.
He lost to a shitty rule.
He lost to a shitty rule.
He didn't even lose to Matt Hamill.
brendan schaub
He fucked him up.
joe rogan
He lost to a shitty rule.
eddie bravo
The rule beat him.
He was crushing Matt Hamill.
ian mccall
Didn't he separate his clavicle or something off that fucking dump he did on Matt Hamill?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
No, he separated his fucking elbow driving into his orbital.
joe rogan
That was brutal.
brendan schaub
Beat the fuck at him.
joe rogan
But a total dominant performance, you can never call that a loss.
And I don't give a fuck what planet you're on.
eddie bravo
I mean, everybody agrees with that.
brendan schaub
We haven't seen John lose like DJ. Never lost.
We haven't seen John get, it was so close like a fight with Ian McCall.
That's true.
joe rogan
It's a good argument.
Not really.
ian mccall
I think John's the best, but DJ's definitely out there.
DJ's a fucking machine.
joe rogan
Here's my question.
If Cejudo beats him, is he like the best combat sport athlete ever?
brendan schaub
No, he has work to do.
joe rogan
He has work to do, for sure.
But if he can beat the best guy ever, is it a Styles?
I mean, arguably, if you're looking at someone who's an Olympic gold medalist and then becomes a world champion in the UFC, that's one of the greatest...
That's a massive...
Resume like as far as like accomplishments on paper the only thing that comes close is Alistair winning the k1 Grand Prix if he won the UFC title if Alistair won the k1 Grand Prix He won Strike Force.
He was a Strike Force heavyweight champion He was a dream heavyweight champion and like arguably in MMA Alistair is one of if not the most one of the most decorated guys in all sports, right?
K1 Grand Prix is the pinnacle the pinnacle of heavyweight kickboxing.
So if Cejudo Wins a gold fucking medal in the Olympic Games, and then goes on to win UFC gold.
He's right up there with one of the most accomplished mixed martial arts athletes ever.
ian mccall
He definitely could be, and they should be marketing the fuck of him to Mexico.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
ian mccall
I hope they are.
I think it fucking better be.
unidentified
It's hard to sell.
brendan schaub
CM Punk's taking all the money.
It's fucking tough.
joe rogan
Stop it.
brendan schaub
It's hard to sell.
joe rogan
Why is it hard to sell the flyweights?
Ian, why is it hard to sell your weight class?
ian mccall
I don't know.
People are...
eddie bravo
But yet Rhonda's the...
She's 135 too.
ian mccall
Small isn't.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
ian mccall
She's bigger than us, but she makes more money.
joe rogan
He's 125. 125. 135. He's smaller than Rhonda.
Any problem doesn't even know what weight you fight in.
ian mccall
That's why me and Rhonda will never fight.
It's because she weighs more than me.
joe rogan
That's rude.
It's a strange phenomenon because in boxing, it's the same thing.
In boxing, you get like the Chocolito.
ian mccall
Chocolatito?
joe rogan
Yeah, Chocolatito.
brendan schaub
That motherfucker is so fucking bad.
He's a bad motherfucker.
ian mccall
He's knocking bitches out.
brendan schaub
He's one of my favorite fans to watch.
joe rogan
Nonito Donair never really caught.
He was just a little too small.
brendan schaub
They're too small.
joe rogan
He was a bad motherfucker.
People just don't buy into it, right?
They just don't buy into it.
Nonito had some sting, man.
When he was in his prime, Nonito Donaire can crack.
brendan schaub
Is it because you want, when you think of fighters, think of like heroes, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
You want a guy to be able to beat your ass.
brendan schaub
You want a guy to be big, yeah.
Because people look at you and they're like, Ian McCall, you would rip their dick off.
Yeah, you would rip their fucking face off.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Well, in the real world.
But the problem is, when people are watching this shit, everybody thinks that they can kick ass when they watch this stuff.
Chris Camozzi, Joe Riggs.
brendan schaub
Joe Riggs.
Just doing the damn thing forever.
unidentified
Doesn't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Doesn't give a fuck.
Tell you what, you want to talk about a world beater in the gym?
I've heard stories about Joe Riggs back when Rich Franken was a champion, and people were saying if Joe Riggs could fight in the octagon the way he spars sometimes, like he catches these rhythms, where, I mean, back then especially, he's had a rough career, you know, he's been in a lot of fights, and he's had a long, long time.
Up and down.
Inside the Octagon and other organizations.
He's been around.
Joe Ruggs is a fucking real veteran.
brendan schaub
He used to be 300 pounds.
joe rogan
Yes, but when he was on fire, like when he was at his best, they were saying he was like hell on wheels in the gym.
unidentified
Yeah, I've heard that.
joe rogan
People were like, if he could just get it together, he's a fucking world champion.
brendan schaub
Dude, Chris Camozzi's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Tough as shit.
brendan schaub
In the Denver scene, he was like the guy coming up.
He was like the man, like the journeyman.
And I never trained with him, and he was a southpaw.
We couldn't find any southpaws when I was getting ready to fight Crow Cop.
So they bring Camozzi in, the nicest guy ever, and his coach goes, hey, listen, man, you're a lot bigger than Chris, but he moves and you need a southpaw so your coach calls, we're going to bring him down, but he has a fight.
It's his first UFC fight.
I think he was fighting in Australia on a two-week notice.
They go, make sure you don't hurt him.
I've never hurt anyone really in my life.
I'm like, yeah, no problem, man.
For whatever reason, 30 seconds into it, I go to throw a hook and he charges into it, break his nose.
Literally 30 seconds.
So his first UFC fight, he had a broken nose.
I don't know if he won, but he went through, I think, a decision.
He's a tough motherfucker, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's very tough.
He's very tough.
That's a hard thing in camp, right?
How hard is it for guys like you where you have to work with lighter guys or guys like you who have to work with heavier guys?
We always say that the jujitsu guys that have the best technique are the guys who are the smaller guys.
eddie bravo
That's every sport.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's every sport.
Eddie's style, your style was based a lot on when you didn't lift weights.
eddie bravo
Yes.
Based on weakness.
joe rogan
But you think about guys like Barrett Yoshida, you think about Hoyler, like the smaller guys are known to have like this razor razor, the Mendez brothers, razor sharp technique, right?
And you know, those guys...
brendan schaub
They have to.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you're trained for an MMA fight, how often did you have to spar guys that were like way heavier than you?
ian mccall
Oh, we've been...
I've been manicured for so long that it's been a while.
brendan schaub
Do you get anything out of it, though?
You know, when you're going with a real big guy, you're so small.
ian mccall
No, that's what I'm saying.
unidentified
Hold on a second.
joe rogan
What are you saying by manicure?
You mean, like, they take care of your camp much more efficiently?
ian mccall
Yeah, we have so many...
Because it's me and Carla.
joe rogan
Right.
ian mccall
Aspar's under one roof.
unidentified
Oh, gotcha.
ian mccall
And Colin Oyama's...
He was Tito's coach.
He's been around forever.
joe rogan
Very respected.
ian mccall
Yeah, and then Jason House, my agent, always has guys in the gym.
There's just tons of guys.
brendan schaub
Small guys.
ian mccall
Small guys.
We have 50 people that can fight amateur level to pro, and they're all under 150. That's the advantage of being small.
brendan schaub
That's the advantage.
eddie bravo
You know what?
joe rogan
In his camp, it's an advantage.
brendan schaub
In everyone's camp.
Small guys are everywhere.
Small guys are everywhere.
ian mccall
My school's filled with small guys.
eddie bravo
It's filled with small guys.
joe rogan
If you're a heavyweight...
eddie bravo
But you know what?
In MMA and boxing, we were talking about earlier, we want to watch bigger guys.
I think maybe we want to watch bigger guys because bigger guys hit harder and bigger guys get knocked out easier.
And little guys, it's hard to knock out little guys.
Because in jiu-jitsu, we'd rather watch the little guys.
I disagree.
Well, the little guys can choke out.
They're generally more technical.
And you see more submissions with the little guys.
The big guys, you see a bunch of dudes just holding and shitting.
joe rogan
Is it possible that like...
Okay, how about when Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson knocked out Benavidez with one punch?
eddie bravo
I think if we saw that more often, I think if little guys got knocked out...
ian mccall
I don't think it still works.
eddie bravo
I think if little guys got knocked out easier than big guys or more than big guys, we would like the little guys.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
It's just not that.
It's the pure mass.
When's the last time you saw a small guy in a porno?
Even in everything.
Think about it.
Even in pornos, they're fucking big.
joe rogan
Like, bigger dudes!
eddie bravo
Think about it.
joe rogan
This is what I'm thinking, psychologically.
ian mccall
I thought they were smaller with regular dicks so that the dick looked bigger than...
unidentified
Maybe.
ian mccall
No, they're big boys, man.
brendan schaub
They're big boys.
joe rogan
But psychologically, if you watch someone, and even if he beats up someone who's smaller than you, if you can say in your head, even if you're wrong, if you can say in your head, couldn't do that to me, then you're not as It's like when you watch Rumble, put someone in orbit.
You see Rumble hit people and put them in orbit and you just go, oh fuck, I gotta get out of this room.
Yeah, it's a totally different appeal because he's so fucking powerful at 205 that you're like, well that would definitely work on me.
ian mccall
They go 125, he weighs less than my girlfriend.
eddie bravo
Is there a 125er that has heavy Conner hands?
Is there anybody like that just dropping?
joe rogan
Lineker, but he couldn't make the weight.
Oh my god, Lineker's a murderer.
ian mccall
Lineker hits fucking home.
unidentified
That would have been the best fight on this card.
eddie bravo
He fought him.
He could blow the division up.
In boxing, Chiquita Gonzalez, remember Chiquita against Michael Carball back in the day in the 80s?
joe rogan
Those were huge pay-per-view matches.
eddie bravo
Those guys were 115 pounds.
Because they were throwing bombs, those guys.
joe rogan
That was also like...
On TV, they put him on like regular TV, like ABC Wide World of Sports and shit like that.
eddie bravo
It was pay-per-view.
No, it was pay-per-view.
joe rogan
Yeah, but to build him up.
Didn't Carbohol fight on all that stuff?
brendan schaub
Did he fight on TV? They used to do a lot more of that back then, for sure.
They're going back to it now.
joe rogan
Carbohol also had a huge following.
He was a Phoenix guy, right?
Didn't he have a gigantic following in Phoenix?
ian mccall
Phoenix or New Mexico?
joe rogan
It's weird how Manny Pacquiao...
eddie bravo
Carvalho is a Chicano.
joe rogan
Well, think about Manny Pacquiao.
eddie bravo
He had three big fights.
joe rogan
That's true.
Manny Pacquiao fights at 47, right?
But he started his career eight weight classes lower.
ian mccall
18?
joe rogan
He was like a flyweight.
eddie bravo
If you're knocking people out, people want to see.
It doesn't matter what you weigh.
We just need dudes.
We need a dude to come in.
You know, Jose Aldo, small guy, I mean, considering.
He knocks the fuck out of people.
That's what people want to see.
brendan schaub
He still didn't get respect, though.
That motherfucker didn't lose in nine years and they had to sell him to us against Conor.
eddie bravo
That's just the way the world is.
brendan schaub
In America.
joe rogan
The world is wacky, dude.
It don't make any sense.
eddie bravo
Well, there's a lot more to being a star than just knocking people out.
brendan schaub
And just winning.
eddie bravo
Look, Conor's got it all.
He's winning...
He's knocking everybody out with one punch.
unidentified
He talks good.
brendan schaub
He looks good.
eddie bravo
And he wears suits.
He's got the fucking crazy hips and shoes on.
brendan schaub
Shit, I was crunk for Dada because his fat ass was fine.
joe rogan
Oh shit, Kamozi cracked Joe Riggs.
eddie bravo
Oh shit, it's over.
It's over.
Nobody can take that.
Nobody can take that.
brendan schaub
Dude, stop the fight.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
eddie bravo
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Damn, Kamozi with the crushing.
brendan schaub
Dude, he's crushing knees.
He's been in and out of the UFC too.
joe rogan
Damn, that was brutal.
Who did Ben Saunders do that to?
Remember that back in the day?
Oh my god, that was nasty.
Ben's was even more brutal.
brendan schaub
The guy blocked it all with his face.
ian mccall
Ben had an actual tie clinch.
The guy wasn't just covering up.
He was just getting...
joe rogan
The dude was a real tough Marine, I remember, I think.
I think he was in the military.
The dude was tough as fuck and just ate those shots.
brendan schaub
I remember that, like, yesterday.
Fucked him up with those knees.
joe rogan
That dude was fucking tough.
And that was one of the things I was gonna say, man.
If it wasn't for, like, in your last fight with, uh, um, what's his name?
Uh, Lineker.
When Lineker didn't make weight.
Dude, you took some fucking shots in that fight that the guys that are not as tough as you I was like holy shit like as a friend That was a hard one to watch because like in the second round I think is when he hit you with some fucking vicious body shots He hit you with some really hard bombs was it the second or the third?
ian mccall
I don't know.
joe rogan
There was a moment in that fight where I was like, oh Jesus.
brendan schaub
How long ago was that?
ian mccall
Ray Rock me in the third.
joe rogan
Is it the third?
How hard does that motherfucker hit?
ian mccall
Really hard.
joe rogan
Like, creepy hard, right?
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, weird.
ian mccall
I got a...
I don't know if it's...
My coach says it's because, you know, it's because I died.
But same with me and my other training partner and coach, Romeo Danza, he died getting shot.
So we both kind of had a weird tolerance to pain.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ian mccall
And not getting knocked out.
And, uh...
Wham!
And I just remember going like, holy shit, man.
Everything went, whoa!
unidentified
Don't come after me!
ian mccall
Don't come after me, please!
joe rogan
When Francisco Rivera just decided to stand and bang with him, and he's another dude I really like.
ian mccall
That's my good friend.
Good friend.
joe rogan
I love that dude.
And I think he got a raw deal in the Uriah Federer fight.
The referee should have stopped that when the eye poke happened.
It was an obvious eye poke.
But I never thought he would do that.
I thought he would move and use his skills and light him up.
I don't know, man.
Maybe he just got hit and he just wanted to hit him back.
Who knows?
ian mccall
When you train with Cisco in the gym, all of a sudden he starts kicking and you're like, what the fuck?
He has a sick, diverse, super technical, open, beautiful hip rotation, everything on all kinds of kicks.
Spin kicks, jump kicks.
joe rogan
Wow.
ian mccall
And then all of a sudden you crack him and he's just fucking plants there in one seat.
Punch you in the face.
joe rogan
He's fun though, man.
I love watching that dude fight, but I felt like, man, he got a raw deal in the Faber fight, you know, and then to stand right in front of Lineker like that and just throw down in his next fight, like, this is crazy.
I wonder if he just thought that he could get him.
ian mccall
I think he did.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian mccall
I think that's what it came down to.
joe rogan
Dude, Lineker's spooky.
He's spooky.
brendan schaub
That was my favorite fight on this card.
Cody vs Lineker?
joe rogan
That's a fucking bar burner.
brendan schaub
That mosquito said, not on my watch, son.
joe rogan
He seems to be just as heavy-handed at 135, which made this fight so fucking interesting.
eddie bravo
Still a great match, though.
joe rogan
Cody knocks dudes out.
eddie bravo
Oh, yeah.
Average guy from Illinois.
This guy beat Hafa Mendez.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Although, like, by an advantage or something like that, but still, just to even tie with Hafa Mendes, to keep Hafa Mendes from tapping you is huge.
Like, you survived?
brendan schaub
No, it's cool, but I don't see someone get punched in the face.
eddie bravo
But that was in the gi, and he's, you know, so I don't know if all his jiu-jitsu is going to translate to MMA. We're going to see.
You know, but...
brendan schaub
Fucking poor Joe Riggs, man.
I hate seeing that.
joe rogan
Well, man, you know what?
Camozzi did what he wanted to do and Riggs didn't get a chance to do it.
Look, his arm is fucked up, man.
He's holding his arm.
Think about how many knees he took that he blocked on that arm.
What are the odds that arm is broken?
Pretty high, right?
eddie bravo
I would say 85%.
brendan schaub
Man, 26 seconds.
joe rogan
He got hit with some bombs there.
He got hit with some bombs.
brendan schaub
I hate seeing those pets like that, man.
joe rogan
It's a rough sport, my man.
brendan schaub
Yes, it is.
joe rogan
I definitely don't have to tell you.
How's your shoulder, brother?
ian mccall
It's fucked up.
joe rogan
Is it?
ian mccall
I probably shouldn't say anything, but my arm popped again this week.
brendan schaub
How long are you out for?
joe rogan
What does that mean?
Hold on a second.
brendan schaub
My bad.
ian mccall
I had surgery eight months ago.
I had a fully torn bicep tendon, two labral tears, and a fully torn rotator cuff.
unidentified
Jesus.
ian mccall
So they redid the whole thing.
Carla actually had her labrum done a week before me.
My doctor's like, oh yeah, we'll have it done, just like her, same shit.
And after, I remember I'm sitting there, he called me a couple days later, he's like, so how you doing?
I'm like, dude, did you fucking tap dance on my shoulder?
Like, what the fuck?
And then he told me everything he had to do, and then I had stem cell put in it.
Thank you, Dr. Thermos.
And it's really fucking strong.
My arm is strong, but all of a sudden I'll be moving, and I'll throw it, and it'll just boom.
I'm like, fucking, that'll hurt.
It won't feel good, and I'll kind of just keep shadowboxing.
Well, it's been eight months.
You know, I throw a punch the other day doing like movement drills around this ball and it just popped and I just fell to the ground holding it.
joe rogan
So it popped like it came out of socket?
ian mccall
No, no, I just felt the pop somewhere in my bicep to the middle of my arm region.
joe rogan
Did you get it checked out yet?
ian mccall
Yeah, and they can't feel them.
No bruising.
joe rogan
No MRI? I mean, did you get an MRI? Not yet.
ian mccall
They're gonna wait.
See, but I fractured and dislocated this elbow wrestling.
I've had three surgeries on this hand, two breaks, I've had a bad infection in this arm.
I got, you know, two bulging discs.
unidentified
Doing well.
joe rogan
So this side of my body- Right now you have two bulging discs?
ian mccall
Yeah, this side of my body's kind of fucked up.
joe rogan
So they're totally probably related.
The bulging discs are in your neck then?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian mccall
Three and four, four and five.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's right where the ulna nerve was.
For me, my issues with my neck went all the way down to my fingers.
Do you get any numbing in your fingers?
ian mccall
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
ian mccall
I see doctors...
unidentified
Hey, man!
ian mccall
I see doctors...
But, uh, yeah, now, like I told my mom a fucking month ago, she's like, are you gonna keep doing this?
I'm like, no, uh, yes.
Cody.
brendan schaub
Is that his girl?
Is that his girl?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
That might be his mom.
ian mccall
His sister?
joe rogan
His sister?
brendan schaub
No, he's young as fuck.
That's his mom.
ian mccall
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It could be.
What a handsome fella.
ian mccall
He needs a new haircut.
He really needs a new haircut.
unidentified
Why?
ian mccall
It's like Don Kings.
joe rogan
It's a white, young Don Kings.
ian mccall
If he's really a male model, he would have a different haircut.
eddie bravo
The MMA community is so connected.
Like, everybody into MMA knows, okay, Sage lost, and everyone's making fun of him now.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
eddie bravo
That's like the general consensus.
ian mccall
Ah, fuck him.
eddie bravo
You know, it's crazy.
joe rogan
He's a good guy.
ian mccall
He seems like a real good guy.
I may make fun of anyone anyways, but...
eddie bravo
I didn't make fun of him.
It's not even making fun of him.
I didn't think he tapped quick.
brendan schaub
I thought the guy put a good choke on him.
eddie bravo
I tap people with their arm like that all the time.
It's like, I don't think it was a quick tap.
It was legit.
That guy had a good squeeze on him.
brendan schaub
His hate comes from he got so much hype and he got paid so much more than other vets.
So other fighters are kind of like, what the fuck, man?
But think if you're him.
If you're him, you're like, dude, I didn't ask for this.
Dana was like, here's your contract.
I was like, fuck yeah.
It's not my fault I'm shredded.
eddie bravo
Are people really concerned that the other fighters are like jealous?
I don't think the fighters are.
brendan schaub
So when the fighters put that out, like your boy Tony Ferguson, right?
Like when the fighters put that out, then the fans go, yeah, fuck that guy.
joe rogan
Well, it's a natural reaction.
When someone's that beautiful, they have so many advantages, it's not nice.
It doesn't feel good.
When a guy who's got...
I mean, all due respect, but Brian Barbarina, his body don't look nothing like that.
He has like a regular athlete's body.
So with a regular guy's body...
eddie bravo
Worse than a regular athlete.
joe rogan
How dare you!
I'm trying not to say dad bod.
unidentified
But how about Tony Ferguson vs.
brendan schaub
Magomedov?
joe rogan
He whooped his ass.
He whooped his ass.
And, you know, they were all telling me after the fight, I said, does he tap guys like that all the time?
And they're like, yeah, his squeeze is ridiculous.
They say he has a sick squeeze.
eddie bravo
Yeah, you could tap.
joe rogan
Kavanaugh was telling me he gets guys in that position and just taps everybody.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
He apparently has this insane head and arm closure.
Some guys get that.
Some guys just have that nasty...
eddie bravo
He didn't even try to pass the guards.
He wasn't trying to pass or improve his body position on that choke.
When you see that, and you stay in sub positions where you don't get the ultimate squeeze, but you do control their body, that's when you know a guy knows what he's doing.
If he's got to get all the way side control and lay on his stomach and start twisting, you've got to do all that to squeeze that, to get a tap out of that?
To me, that's amateur.
What he did, that was pro.
He stayed in the mount.
He stayed in half guard.
He didn't even try to pass.
I'm going to stay right here and tap you.
joe rogan
And the Sage kid, he really did legitimately, 100% have strep throat, and he was in the hospital two days before that fight.
So just imagine that.
unidentified
And antibiotics.
joe rogan
And I'm not an antibiotic, but just imagine having strep throat and having someone clamp down on your neck.
I mean, you're already inflamed and fucked up.
brendan schaub
That explains the quick tap.
joe rogan
100%.
And you know what, Matt?
He's a kid.
He's 19 years old.
He's 19 years old, and he's in there kicking ass.
And...
How much pussy's coming his way?
Is it even measurable at any point?
brendan schaub
He jacks off to the Bible though.
He doesn't touch him.
You're fucking up, son.
Because in 10 years he's like, God damn it.
eddie bravo
How long is that going to fucking last?
Come on.
ian mccall
Me and Big Brown will teach you the slang dick.
joe rogan
That can't last.
brendan schaub
Come on out, brother.
joe rogan
That really can't last.
eddie bravo
So what do you think of that Tony Ferguson versus Magomedov?
I don't know.
brendan schaub
It's amazing.
eddie bravo
That's fucking monstrous.
joe rogan
You know what I said when I did the countdown show?
I said this easily could be a world championship fight.
ian mccall
Easy.
joe rogan
One of these guys, either guy can be the champion, either guy can be the challenger.
This is a legit world championship caliber fight.
brendan schaub
The X-Factor's, uh, how, uh, Habib's body, whether he's healthy.
How's he gonna perform, taking all this time off, and Tony's a motherfucker to fight for.
eddie bravo
And Tony, Tony's hard to manhandle, like, uh, Magomedov is used to manhandle.
Tony rolls with shit.
And Tony's striking has gotten so goddamn good.
brendan schaub
Magomedov, If he gets a hold of Tony, Tony's going for a ride.
But that's not going to faze Tony.
eddie bravo
You know Tony wrestled in college.
ian mccall
He's all funk.
He's all funk when it comes to wrestling.
You have a perfect, symmetrical wrestler who does everything correct over and over and over and over again.
All of a sudden you have Tony.
Who has great fucking basics, but he's also hitting that wild ass Grammy roll from every position.
I wrestled like that guy.
And it was fucking boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
So, you know, what wheels can catch on faster?
brendan schaub
I think it's going to be because they both have- Called wild cards.
joe rogan
Well, what Nurmagomedov loves to do is control.
He gets you on top and he beats the fuck out of you and holds you in place.
But Tony's so dynamic, I don't know if he's going to be able to hold him down the way he's going to be able to hold other people down.
ian mccall
And not be in trouble.
joe rogan
And you can see guys when they fight Habib where they break.
You can see where they're just like, this motherfucker's going to do this.
unidentified
How about those same shows?
joe rogan
Yes.
ian mccall
He ragdolled the world champ.
eddie bravo
Wait, he beat those angles?
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
Oh, beat the fuck up.
eddie bravo
He beat them.
joe rogan
Ragdolled them.
Ragdolled them.
Granted, it was a few years back.
I did not remember that.
eddie bravo
Ragdolled them.
That's huge.
brendan schaub
He gets a hold of you.
You're going for a ride.
joe rogan
He's got the best grappling in the division.
He's a monster.
ian mccall
Did you know about his dad?
joe rogan
Yeah, his dad's a serious fucking Sambo coach.
ian mccall
Long article about how awesome his fucking dad is and family is and just...
I was like, I fucking...
I knew I liked these guys.
joe rogan
Technical as fuck.
Everything's perfect.
But he's had so many injuries.
brendan schaub
Horrible injuries, too.
joe rogan
How horrible.
brendan schaub
ACL, MCL, knees.
joe rogan
He's blown his knees out.
He blew his back out.
eddie bravo
That changes everything when you come back from that.
Like you're shot.
brendan schaub
Especially when you fight a guy like Tony.
unidentified
Right?
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Because in football, when you come back from one knee surgery, you may never be the same.
If you're a running back or a quarterback that scrambles, that's what happens to all the quarterbacks that scramble.
They're doing great in college and they survive.
But as soon as they get hurt in the pros, man, now they've got to stay in the pocket.
Their knees are shot and that's where they fucking close.
brendan schaub
And MMA is way more demanding than that on your knees.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially when you're avoiding things.
Someone's throwing head kicks your way, or you're trying to stuff a takedown, and you're sprawling and trying to turn while someone's driving towards you.
brendan schaub
That's why if you have a body that's prone to injury, especially if you've wrestled your whole life, and it starts to build up, like it came, man.
That motherfucker can't stay healthy for nothing.
joe rogan
That's exactly what I was going to say.
But I think Nurmagomedov, it's not a coincidence.
They're all in the same camp.
And it's also not a coincidence.
They have...
At least three champions out of that fucking gym and two current.
I mean, AKA is a monster house.
It's a monster house.
brendan schaub
But they're also getting guys with a lot of miles on them.
Like DC has miles.
Kane has some motherfucking miles.
Naga Madoff has crazy miles.
joe rogan
Luke Rockhold's got a nice, sweet odometer, though, baby.
Full taggy cast.
That motherfucker's young.
He's the new Tesla.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a Tesla.
ian mccall
I was gonna call him a Prius, but he's not a Prius.
joe rogan
No, he's a Tesla.
He's a muscle car.
brendan schaub
No, he's the newest thing.
joe rogan
He's like a dope Mach 1 Mustang.
brendan schaub
With a surfboard rack on top?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I think that a guy like him is the future, you know?
Especially, like, he's in that division.
He's so unusual because he's a wrestler.
He's got really good jiu-jitsu.
His top game's insane.
He's tall.
He kicks hard, but he's got a good balance between being strong and being long.
Like, some long guys, they're just not as strong.
Anderson was always a long guy, but not a strong guy.
You know what I mean?
Like, Anderson's never manhandled anybody the way Rockhold can manhandle you.
We'll see what he did to Lyoto.
We'll see what he did to Wyman when he gets him on the ground.
brendan schaub
Those long guys that are strong like that, Jon Jones is the poster boy.
joe rogan
Yes, he's the mask.
brendan schaub
Because people say how long he is, you get in the clinch with him, and I've wrestled with Jon, and it's like, what planet is this dude from?
What the fuck?
joe rogan
You can totally see.
brendan schaub
It's embarrassing.
joe rogan
When DC was fighting him, and he took DC down that first round, DC was like, oh shit.
brendan schaub
DC's face was like, ah, fuck, son.
He was like, fuck.
joe rogan
He's strong as fuck.
ian mccall
He threw me across the room one time.
joe rogan
Jesus.
ian mccall
The one night I've hung out with John.
Hey, I haven't hung out with John since.
John threw me across the phone in October.
brendan schaub
You know me, I'm the number one fan of John, but I love how everyone's like, no, he's changed.
Why?
Because on Instagram he's posting videos of working out and shit?
joe rogan
Let's buy the narrative, Mr. Schaub.
brendan schaub
Dude, I'm buying he's the baddest motherfucker on the planet and he's swole now.
Good luck beating that, dude.
ian mccall
Yeah, fuck me.
brendan schaub
That's all I'm buying.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian mccall
What was that Subman he was taking?
I really want some of that.
unidentified
Mmm.
I don't know.
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's good stuff.
ian mccall
There's something in the magazine.
Something.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Bermudez versus Kawajiri.
unidentified
Ooh!
brendan schaub
Good fight.
unidentified
Kawajiri.
joe rogan
This is actually a very good fight.
Kawajiri was a motherfucker in Japan, man.
brendan schaub
Legend.
Yeah.
Remember, Bermudez was on, I think, a seven or eight fight win streak?
joe rogan
Well, Kawajiri's had some tough fights in MMA period because the first big one he had was with Melendez and it was back when Zufa had purchased Strikeforce and they reinstated elbows.
Remember that?
ian mccall
Oh, he got fucked up.
joe rogan
Gilbert took him down and it was the first time that Gilbert...
ian mccall
I was there.
joe rogan
That was in San Diego.
Yeah.
ian mccall
I was there ringside.
joe rogan
Was San Diego?
It was the first time, I think, in Strikeforce where they allowed elbows on the ground.
Because when Gilbert had been fighting before, even though he's a wrestler, he couldn't use elbows on the ground.
They had like a Pride similar rule set before the UFC bought it.
brendan schaub
Was that San Diego or San Jose?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't remember.
I watched it on TV, I'm pretty sure.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I remember watching it.
joe rogan
It was awesome.
ian mccall
I think it was San Diego.
brendan schaub
Was it?
joe rogan
You realize how important elbows are.
brendan schaub
Oh, game changer.
joe rogan
And when guys fought their whole career without elbows, and then all of a sudden they use elbows, they get more...
A guy like Gilbert, it's a huge weapon for him because he's wrestling so good.
He's so strong.
He's on top of you.
He's smashing with elbows.
It's way better than punching you, right?
And so it goes from that to...
He had a couple tough fights after that, and he just...
When you have a beatdown like that Gilbert Melendez fight.
brendan schaub
Dude, look at Junior Dos Santos.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's just never the same.
Yeah.
He's fighting Rothwell.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dude, the heavyweights have some fucking fights.
We haven't even talked about it.
Orlowski, Overeem.
unidentified
Jesus, yeah.
brendan schaub
They train at the same camp.
These motherfuckers said, no, neither of us are going anywhere.
We're going to train at the same camp and fight each other.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
Terrible idea, fellas.
But I guess you're just coming at different times.
joe rogan
How do they work that?
brendan schaub
How do you game plan it?
How's Greg Jackson game plan that?
joe rogan
How do you?
eddie bravo
You've got to game plan a draw.
joe rogan
Yeah, what do you do?
Do you, like, each guy...
Does each guy have, like, one member of the crew he takes as his corner guy?
brendan schaub
Training partners?
How does it work?
How does it work?
Especially heavyweights at Jackson's, you know?
unidentified
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
You're all kind of a crew.
joe rogan
What if they sparred?
brendan schaub
Like, every day leading up to it?
joe rogan
What if they sparred to help each other get sharp to fight each other?
brendan schaub
It'd be brilliant.
The nerves wouldn't be there as much.
joe rogan
Right, but who would say yes to that?
Who would say no to that?
Who would say no to that?
Overeem would probably say no to that, right?
brendan schaub
Overeem for sure.
He's a serial killer, yeah.
joe rogan
But do you think Arlovsky would say no to that?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's that Russian fucking assassin.
They're both so prideful.
joe rogan
That's a crazy fight.
brendan schaub
I thought Arlowski hated me forever when we traded together, but no, he's just kind of quiet.
He's a great guy.
That's a good fight.
joe rogan
If they train together, how long do you think they've trained together?
How many years now?
brendan schaub
Shit.
What, three?
joe rogan
Three years?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
So they had to have done a lot of sports.
brendan schaub
But if anyone's going to leave, it's going to be over because Arlowski's been there way longer.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Because Overham came from the Black Zillions.
Orlowski was there four years before that.
Orlowski was there when I was there.
joe rogan
That's right.
And Orlowski, back when they first started working with him, everybody thought he was done.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and this motherfucker was about to fight for a title before he fought Stipe.
unidentified
So crazy.
joe rogan
So crazy.
brendan schaub
And then what else?
Oh, and then they're doing Verdum Stipe in Brazil.
Is what I heard.
unidentified
This fucking show looks so bad, it looks like it's fake.
joe rogan
Blindspot?
It really looks like it's fake.
eddie bravo
Are you watching Better Call Saul?
joe rogan
No.
Is it awesome?
eddie bravo
Oh, shit!
brendan schaub
What's that on?
eddie bravo
It's a prequel of Breaking Bad.
It's Breaking Bad, but the story of the lawyer.
brendan schaub
I can't get into Breaking Bad.
ian mccall
Yeah, I don't like tweakers, man.
eddie bravo
Oh, what was that?
ian mccall
I don't like tweakers.
joe rogan
Tweakers?
ian mccall
Meth heads.
Meth people who do fucking meth.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that's what the show's about.
ian mccall
Did you watch all of Breaking Bad?
eddie bravo
Did you watch all of that?
joe rogan
Yeah, no, I didn't watch the whole thing.
I didn't watch the end.
The end of Breaking Bad?
No, the last couple seasons.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
I can't get into it.
I watched the first two and a half.
eddie bravo
Same thing for me.
I watched the first one and didn't start watching it for another five years.
brendan schaub
I need a show to watch, but I need Breaking Bad.
eddie bravo
No, but it's good.
It's really fucking good.
You're going to get addicted.
I did the same thing.
brendan schaub
I watched the first episode, and I walked away.
I'm all set.
joe rogan
Teach yourselves, drugs are all set.
unidentified
I'm all set.
brendan schaub
It does nothing for me, man.
eddie bravo
Oh, man.
brendan schaub
I've been bald deep in documentaries.
eddie bravo
You know what's a great documentary that I just passed up?
There was a new release on Netflix called Cartel Land, and I thought, oh, it sounds like a cheat.
brendan schaub
Come on, son, that's been out forever.
eddie bravo
Dude, have you seen it?
unidentified
Yes.
eddie bravo
Of course.
Goddamn American.
I almost didn't watch it because of Cartel Land.
That sounded like some B movie about some...
unidentified
This isn't a spoiler alert.
brendan schaub
There's a one guy who represents the people.
He's like, we're not letting these cartel people come and take our fucking villages.
So all the civilians, he joins them.
He's like this dude with a mustache.
They leave this motherfucker mic'd up, and he's going to give a speech.
He's like, I gotta make a stop.
He goes to the side piece house, and he goes, yeah, bueno, bueno.
And this bitch just sucking his dick.
Just sucking his dick.
He comes out, he's like, alright, ready to go.
And they've been showing his wife and kids.
joe rogan
It's like, hey man, let's edit that shit out!
eddie bravo
Hey, but it's the best part of the movie.
brendan schaub
But him just going...
eddie bravo
What is he doing?
He's not doing Gandhi shit.
He's telling everybody, everybody, we all need machine guns.
We're going to drive the cartel out of our city.
So they decided to all fucking, they got strapped.
ian mccall
He's a cowboy.
joe rogan
Is this a spoiler alert?
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
eddie bravo
This is the beginning.
It's a long, dude, there's a lot of shit that happens.
joe rogan
This is definitely a spoiler.
eddie bravo
It's life though, you know?
It's a guy.
brendan schaub
He's fighting cartels.
I'm just saying he had a side piece.
They show his wife and kids the whole time.
joe rogan
I want to watch this thing.
I want to watch this.
ian mccall
Oh, it's incredible.
eddie bravo
The basis of it, a lot of shit happens.
Did you see it?
joe rogan
No.
ian mccall
Yes, I did.
I don't want to ruin it for him completely.
eddie bravo
No, this is the beginning.
ian mccall
I'm talking about the end.
eddie bravo
It's about a guy.
It's about a guy...
joe rogan
Someone to get the middle for me.
unidentified
...who gets his staff to fill in the middle for Joe, because you skip the beginning, the end.
joe rogan
Bermudas and Cowiches.
brendan schaub
The hero hooks up with his side piece at the end.
joe rogan
So five stars by Eddie Bravo?
How many stars?
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
One of the greatest documentaries of all goddamn time.
unidentified
Eddie.
That's aggressive.
eddie bravo
It's incredible.
brendan schaub
I give it a four out of five.
eddie bravo
I give it a fucking nine.
brendan schaub
Goddamn, you're crunk right now.
You're also the guy that loved the Hoist Gracie fight, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's figure that was just about to ask that.
brendan schaub
What was Dada?
joe rogan
What is Dada and Kimbo?
eddie bravo
He did everything right.
joe rogan
Dada and Kimbo, what was that?
eddie bravo
Oh, that was like, they should have called it a special street match or something.
brendan schaub
That's a strong no for me.
eddie bravo
They should have said, okay, we're going to show this for pure entertainment value, but it's not MMA. It's just two dudes, just brawl.
brendan schaub
You know what I say you do?
I think you put Dada and Kimbo and let Justin Redd fight both at the same time.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
brendan schaub
If they're going to do shit shows, let's get real here.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think they thought that was going to be as bad as it was.
brendan schaub
No, they thought Kimbo was going to knock me on the first round.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think anybody anticipated those guys would gas like that.
That was the worst gassing in the history of gassing.
ian mccall
If you trained some of Justin's pygmies, they would beat the show.
brendan schaub
Rothwell, Mark Hunt's pretty bad in Denver.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they had a little bit of an excuse because they were fighting.
brendan schaub
And they have better technique at least.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're two really high-level fighters.
brendan schaub
Dada's titties were all over the place.
joe rogan
Well, Dada swung some bombs, but he just had zero in the early parts of the round before Kimbo took him down.
He just doesn't have enough gas.
Bermuda's got his back hair.
He just doesn't have any gas.
You know, I mean, who knows how he's really training?
brendan schaub
I mean, let's be honest.
He's just not very good.
joe rogan
Well, you know, I mean, that's never been what he's doing, right?
He's been doing these street fights.
That's what he's been doing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, get your paper, Doug.
joe rogan
I mean, I kind of get that he wants to fight and fight legitimate.
I kind of get that he's got to take that paycheck.
But I just wish he had like a real strength and conditioning coach or a real trainer.
brendan schaub
You don't become dotted 5,000 by hiring a real strength and conditioning coach.
You don't get that haircut.
You don't get that warrior haircut.
joe rogan
But we're here talking about him.
He got that.
He made some money.
I'm sure he made some money.
brendan schaub
That's all he cares about.
I think if he could fight in the backyard for the same amount of money, he's doing it.
joe rogan
I just wonder.
You know, you take a guy like that, and you bring him to a legit place.
ian mccall
How much did he make?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I kind of think he made some good money, though.
But if you take a guy like that, and you brought him to a Greg Jackson.
brendan schaub
It's not going to be a fun story.
joe rogan
Or you brought him to a Mark Henry.
You don't think so?
brendan schaub
No.
I think he gets fucking wrecked.
joe rogan
Maybe he just changes his attitude completely after this fight.
brendan schaub
He gets ate up like Kobayashi.
That motherfucker gets tore the fuck up.
joe rogan
Yeah, but maybe he learns.
Maybe he learns how to fight.
We're not talking about him going in there and sparring with an in-prime Shane Carwin and getting fucking night night every day.
brendan schaub
I pay good money for that.
Are you talking about the Brendan Shaw program?
joe rogan
The Brendan Shaw, of course.
Look at this dude.
Kawajiri's got him in a cradle.
ian mccall
He'll do what CM Punk has done and he'll finally realize that this isn't a fucking good idea.
eddie bravo
This is fucking Kawajiri?
joe rogan
How am I missing this?
Kawajiri, he's on top here.
brendan schaub
Especially a vet like you, right?
joe rogan
He was giving Dennis Bermudez a little bit of a knee to the back.
eddie bravo
Kawajiri has some good passing.
If he gets on top, he has very solid passing.
brendan schaub
You're talking about a pro's pro.
joe rogan
Are you allowed a knee in the back?
How does that work?
brendan schaub
Not to the spine.
ian mccall
Yeah, the sides you can.
brendan schaub
Yes, the sides you can, just not directly on the spine.
eddie bravo
Hard to take down.
This guy's hard to take down.
brendan schaub
Bermudez is a motherfucker.
joe rogan
So you can hit a person, like, right next to the spine.
You can hit him right next to the spine with your knees.
And when someone's on the ground, you can knee them right next to the spine.
eddie bravo
He's got 100% on him right there.
He can flip them over easy.
brendan schaub
Phenomenal takedown.
eddie bravo
Oh, he let it go.
brendan schaub
He's going to keep scrambling.
Good luck getting Brimia's down.
eddie bravo
See that 100%?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
eddie bravo
Damn.
unidentified
You pray for those positions right there.
brendan schaub
Vampire fangs.
ian mccall
I was going to say, where do you get that?
brendan schaub
Pretty badass.
ian mccall
Fancy.
brendan schaub
Oh, there it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, see?
But some referees will warn you if you get too close to the spine.
brendan schaub
We can't go 12 to 6 on the spine.
joe rogan
You can't go 12 to 6 anywhere.
Even on the thighs, they warn you about that.
brendan schaub
But it's weird because you can if you're on the bottom of guard.
joe rogan
Yes, but it's not because it's going 6 to 12. Yes.
unidentified
You're going in this motion instead of this motion.
brendan schaub
It's so fucking stupid.
joe rogan
It's like if you jerk off knuckles up, is it really jerking off?
Who does that?
brendan schaub
Not in my book.
joe rogan
Who's jerking off like that?
ian mccall
I've tried it.
joe rogan
It's very rare.
eddie bravo
When you're trying to lube it up, I guess you do it.
joe rogan
Damn, Kawajiri's relentless with his takedowns here.
eddie bravo
But not during the actual process.
The climax process.
brendan schaub
Dude, how hard is Bermuda to get down?
eddie bravo
There's only one way.
ian mccall
That's why our hands are shaped this way.
eddie bravo
Can you imagine during the climax part, you're going like this?
joe rogan
Imagine the only way to get yourself to come, you gotta hit it.
Just smack it.
ian mccall
You don't have to?
You've seen the fucking B&E Pain Olympics and stuff, right?
joe rogan
I'm just checking.
Yeah, yeah, I have.
Some people love pain, man.
ian mccall
I don't like pain at all.
Don't fucking touch me.
joe rogan
I don't understand that.
brendan schaub
In any facet.
Tattoos, I suck at that.
joe rogan
You know, you meet people that are into pain.
There's people that like to get suspended.
You ever see that shit?
They put hooks in their back?
unidentified
Yes!
brendan schaub
They hang him like fish.
joe rogan
Do you think that maybe they feel pain in a different way?
Like maybe what you feel, what they feel is different?
brendan schaub
Releases in different endorphins?
joe rogan
I've always wondered that because, you know, people talk about like pain tolerance.
Like, oh, this guy's got a really high pain tolerance and she's got a really high, you know, he loves pain.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
What are they feeling?
We assume...
I assume that when someone does something to you, it feels the same as it is to me, but it's clearly different.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's no way.
There's no way.
joe rogan
Otherwise, why do girls like getting spanked?
How come some girls...
brendan schaub
That's a dominant thing, though, right?
joe rogan
Some girls love it.
eddie bravo
I think that's leftover caveman shit.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They love it.
They like to get spanked.
ian mccall
Spanked, choked.
brendan schaub
Thanks, 50 shades of hair.
unidentified
A little hair pull.
eddie bravo
That's what that shit is.
Generally, right?
ian mccall
Or gagging with a good spit...
eddie bravo
A little bit.
They like it a little bit.
That's leftover kid man shit.
joe rogan
But let's be real about this shit.
If a girl spanks you, it's going to be a fucking real problem.
eddie bravo
Yeah, you should have died.
joe rogan
If a girl spanks you the way she's asking you to spank her, if she starts spanking you that way, you'd be like, hey, hey, hey, what the fuck are you doing?
ian mccall
Yeah, that's embarrassing.
eddie bravo
Slow down.
Slow down.
Don't shit me.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
ian mccall
My reaction to...
I tell them free enough.
eddie bravo
I go, no, no, no, no, no.
There's not going to be any of that right away.
brendan schaub
It depends how hot they are.
It depends how hot they are.
eddie bravo
Right there.
brendan schaub
Boom.
eddie bravo
Boom.
brendan schaub
Nah, I gotta go full Delahoya, man.
If they're really hot, I'll put on some stockings and shit, whatever they want.
eddie bravo
It's very important that you nip that right in the bud.
unidentified
Full Delahoya.
eddie bravo
It's not gonna be scratching.
unidentified
Okay, fine.
brendan schaub
He was in stockings and fucking shoes.
He had the high heels on and shit.
joe rogan
Cocaine's a hell of a drug.
ian mccall
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
eddie bravo
How about the girls that like to scratch?
Holy shit.
You better stop that shit right now.
joe rogan
Don't you think that a lot of that is marking you?
ian mccall
Yes.
joe rogan
Marking you?
What the fuck are you doing?
To let everybody know that she fucked you, you know, to mark her territory, scratch you, leave marks on you.
unidentified
Like a hickey?
eddie bravo
Did you ever give hickeys?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, high school.
Everybody gave hickeys in high school.
You come to school, wow, you just got a hickey.
eddie bravo
Hey, that was a great idea if you think about it.
Always give hickeys.
brendan schaub
It's gone though, right?
When's the last time you saw someone with a hickey?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's gone away.
brendan schaub
People don't do that shit anymore.
unidentified
It's gross.
ian mccall
It's gross.
eddie bravo
Hey, but it is a good way to keep...
ian mccall
Kids are like, I'm gonna get in fucking trouble for this.
Why would I do this?
joe rogan
Yeah, why are you bruising up my neck?
brendan schaub
I guess it's embarrassing now.
eddie bravo
Yo, oh shit.
brendan schaub
Kawajiri is tired as fuck.
joe rogan
Kawajiri trying to spin.
A lot of work trying to get him to the ground, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's exhausted.
He's a big dude, too.
joe rogan
Look at that, though.
eddie bravo
That's hard.
brendan schaub
Get out of here, son.
joe rogan
Oh, and back in there.
eddie bravo
Man, he is so hard to take down.
brendan schaub
How about you, Kawajiri gets TKO'd?
joe rogan
He looks very tired here, I'll tell you that.
You gotta wonder also, with a guy like Kawajiri, how old is he now?
brendan schaub
Between the two of them, don't they have like 60 fights or 70 fights or something like that?
joe rogan
He's only 29?
No.
No, he's every bit of 44. Jamie, find out how old Kawajiri is.
unidentified
In fighting years, he's 67. Yeah, he's older.
joe rogan
Asians, you can't tell?
Let me guess before you tell me.
35. I see.
unidentified
I'll say 37. 39. Okay.
joe rogan
Drum roll, please.
Ian?
eddie bravo
36. 37. I'm going to say 36 and 39. I'm going to say 36 and 39. 36 and 39. It's either a 6 or a 9. Asians, you can't tell.
brendan schaub
Asians or black guys, you cannot tell.
joe rogan
It's like that Jimi Hendrix song.
eddie bravo
What is it?
ian mccall
37!
Yeah!
joe rogan
Oh, so between 36 and 39. I was off.
Yeah, but you were in the wheelhouse.
eddie bravo
Yeah, whatever.
ian mccall
39. He'd been fighting for a long time, too.
brendan schaub
A long, long time.
joe rogan
It's hard, man.
A few of those brutal KOs like this guy's experienced, like especially the Melendez fight.
How many other times has he KO'd?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Who wins a fight like this?
If it goes like this all three rounds, a dude...
brendan schaub
Cow Jerry.
eddie bravo
He wins because he's pressing forward?
brendan schaub
He's aggressive.
Yeah, maybe.
eddie bravo
Or is that aggressive?
brendan schaub
It depends on the judging.
joe rogan
He's getting fucked up here.
He's getting the fucking shit elbowed out of him here.
brendan schaub
So we didn't consider a takedown when Bermudez was on his hip getting up?
Some of the fucking idiot refs do.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Bermudez is controlling him here.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Bermudez is on top, and he's landing strikes, and Kawagiri literally can't do shit.
eddie bravo
He's in the shot.
He's in the shot.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's no good.
brendan schaub
He's on his knees.
joe rogan
He's getting fucked up.
eddie bravo
But he's going into him.
joe rogan
Right, but look how Bermudez is controlling that right arm.
eddie bravo
They're there because Kawagiri is making that happen.
joe rogan
Yes, but he's stuck.
Look, Bermudez is controlling that right arm with that wrap.
brendan schaub
Bermudez is so progressive.
joe rogan
They're beating the fuck out of him here.
I'm definitely giving these exchanges right here to Bermudez because Kawagiri is only holding on and it ain't working.
ian mccall
Take his back?
brendan schaub
And now he's about to get fucked up.
Ready for that TKO, son?
joe rogan
See, I get that you're saying that Kawagiri is moving forward, but the way Dennis was countering was so much more powerful than what Kawagiri was doing.
eddie bravo
I agree with you.
I'm saying in the first round, Joe.
That's why I brought it up.
He is pushing him, but he's getting fucked up at the same time.
Who do you give that to?
brendan schaub
The first round, Kawagiri.
Even though he didn't...
Get the successful takedown.
eddie bravo
Yeah, I see it as, yeah, he's pushing forward.
It's not effective.
And the reason he's pushing forward is he doesn't want none of the stand-up.
joe rogan
But even when he's pushing forward, though, he was underneath.
He was underneath the leg.
He had his arm tied up like this.
See how Bermudez loves to tie that wrist up on the far side?
brendan schaub
That's Ryan Parsons.
That's all Ryan Parsons.
joe rogan
And he is just beating the shit out of him here.
I mean, there's a number of unanswered shots.
Oh, Twister.
brendan schaub
That'd be sick.
eddie bravo
No, that's not going to happen.
joe rogan
What?
eddie bravo
I'm trying.
joe rogan
What does he do?
He just wants to take the back.
brendan schaub
Bermuda's just dominating right now.
joe rogan
He's got his back.
He's going to flatten him out.
Bermuda looks awesome.
ian mccall
Did Kawajiri beat Gomi?
Or no, Gomi beat him in Pride, right?
joe rogan
That's how there was Sakurai.
ian mccall
Sakurai?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian mccall
That's what I'm thinking of.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
There's Ron Parsons.
joe rogan
He's screaming at him.
He's screaming at him.
brendan schaub
Ryan Parsons, he's all about wrist control.
Him and Pat Cummins.
joe rogan
Smart.
brendan schaub
That's all he does, man.
joe rogan
Well, especially from those positions, you see, like, as he's moving in for that shot, controlling that right wrist, he was able to land so many hard shots.
brendan schaub
Just gives you so much control.
joe rogan
How many hard elbows did he land from that position?
It had to be, like, ten, right?
brendan schaub
At least.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
At least.
joe rogan
Ten hard ones.
So when you think about that, like, just the impact of that as he goes back to his round, he's definitely diminished from that, big time.
brendan schaub
What's his corner tone?
joe rogan
That was a bad scene.
Yeah, whatever.
May I go in there, brother?
unidentified
You want one?
joe rogan
No, no, I'm good.
I'm good.
brendan schaub
You know what?
I'll take one.
joe rogan
Fuck it.
Brendan Schaub had a baby.
We'll have a beer.
brendan schaub
Celebration beer.
joe rogan
We'll celebrate.
ian mccall
This is a celebration, bitches.
brendan schaub
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jamie can drink.
brendan schaub
Let me ask you this, Joe.
joe rogan
Look at this.
brendan schaub
If you're Cowboy Olivia's corner man and the fight's five rounds, you know what I'm saying, Joe?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And the fight's five rounds.
You're not going to have a game plan for five rounds, right?
You're going to say, the first round, give it hell, man.
Then after that, it's whatever.
joe rogan
I would assume they would try to do that because that's where Cowboy's had problems in the past.
Guys jump on him and he's taking the fight on short donors.
brendan schaub
Don't let Cowboy get into rhythm because he's going to fuck you up.
You blitz his ass.
joe rogan
How many weeks did Oliveira have to prepare for this?
unidentified
Two weeks.
ian mccall
That's it.
He just fought not too long ago, though.
joe rogan
Oh.
Well, there you go.
That could be...
brendan schaub
Still, five-round fight.
I'm gonna fuck who you are.
unidentified
Two weeks ain't ready.
joe rogan
This fight's still going on.
Kawajiri, and look at this.
Bermudez is attacking now.
brendan schaub
Can I get one of the other ones?
joe rogan
Yo, dude, how badass was that Jeremy Stephens?
I'll drink that.
I like that stuff.
Give me the Guinness.
brendan schaub
That's a grown-ass man drink.
I'm not ready for it.
Even though I'm a dad now.
joe rogan
This is probably bad for my low-carbohydrate diet.
ian mccall
Fuck.
joe rogan
Probably not supposed to drink these.
How's that work?
brendan schaub
Cheers, brother.
eddie bravo
You can't drink a beer.
You gotta get off that fucking diet.
joe rogan
Hey, bro.
Can I have a...
unidentified
Can't drink beer.
eddie bravo
How long is that gonna last?
ian mccall
I have a penis, so I can drink it.
joe rogan
I'm only trying to do it.
I'm not trying to live on it.
I'm trying to do it for 60 days.
Salute, my brother.
brendan schaub
How many days are you in, Joe?
eddie bravo
Hey, congratulations on that day.
unidentified
Thanks, fellas.
eddie bravo
It's gonna fuck.
Every day gets better and better, dude.
brendan schaub
Hopefully.
eddie bravo
It just gets better and better.
Hopefully.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, it's gonna be better.
ian mccall
If I can do it, you can do it.
eddie bravo
That's your creation right there.
That's the most important thing in your life.
brendan schaub
No, I watch 16 and pregnant.
If those fucking morons can do it, I'm gonna be fine.
joe rogan
Well, for sure, don't let those be your role models.
brendan schaub
No, I'm just saying, that's the standard.
And I'm like, I'm way cooler than them.
joe rogan
You can read books on it.
eddie bravo
You got a mother-in-law that's huge.
brendan schaub
That's that Latin family, son.
unidentified
Huge.
eddie bravo
But it's only hard for two years, two and a half years.
After that, you talk to them.
brendan schaub
That's a really long time.
eddie bravo
That's like...
joe rogan
No, listen, man.
eddie bravo
It's not a long time for your legacy, dude.
joe rogan
Even then, it's awesome.
Trust me.
brendan schaub
Oh, no, I can't wait.
I love kids.
joe rogan
It's not like you have to suffer for two and a half years before they become awesome.
brendan schaub
I want to be like Sean Camp, man.
Just a ton of kids.
joe rogan
It makes you a better person.
brendan schaub
It really does.
I'm hoping it chills me out.
I can't relax with the work.
joe rogan
I shouldn't say it makes you a better person, but it makes a lot of people a better person because they become way more considerate.
And they start looking at the world differently.
We all know intellectually what it's like.
You have a baby, the baby becomes a person, and there it goes.
But when you actually see it happen, then you start to piece it together.
Everything this person is, really, is because of all the interactions that he's experienced while I've been his dad.
And that's what you're going to start doing.
You're a great guy already, man.
It's going to make you even more awesome.
I guarantee you.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm excited.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're going to be great at this, man.
You're going to love it.
I know you will.
brendan schaub
I can't wait.
joe rogan
You're going to love it.
eddie bravo
When you live your life, now all of a sudden there's someone that you'll die for and you'll kill for.
It's different.
All of a sudden, you're not number one no more.
That kid's number one.
He's worth more to you than you are.
brendan schaub
Yep.
eddie bravo
That's it.
Now that changes your life.
Now all of a sudden you're number two.
You got a number one that you got to protect.
joe rogan
You know what it really changes?
It changes your feeling of compassion too.
You have more compassion for people because you see people that are grown up and you go, oh, somewhere along the line this fucking dude was a baby and someone did a terrible job of raising this fucking kid and now here he is 25 and drunk and stupid and in my face.
Explains a lot, yeah.
It puts it together to you in a way that it never did before.
Before I would meet people and I'd go, oh, this guy's an asshole.
You know, oh, she's a bitch.
But now I go, oh, those were babies.
This is a baby that just got railroaded the wrong way.
The whole deal.
And then you meet someone who's a really cool person.
And you go, oh, well, you must have had a cool ride.
eddie bravo
Yeah, what was your childhood like?
You always want to know, like, where'd you grow up?
How did you get through it?
ian mccall
What do your parents do?
brendan schaub
My girl's family being Latin, man, there's so much love.
It's insane.
Don't get me wrong, my parents love the shit out of me, but, you know, the Latin family's just different.
joe rogan
Yeah, Donald Trump.
Trying to keep that out?
Trying to keep love out?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Donald.
joe rogan
That's so stupid.
brendan schaub
Shit, he won South Carolina.
joe rogan
Did he?
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Of course he did.
Look who he's against.
He's against nothing.
eddie bravo
Dude, how crazy.
brendan schaub
It's going to be him versus Hillary.
joe rogan
Oh, 100%.
eddie bravo
You think Hillary's going to beat Ben Sanders?
unidentified
Bernie's in trouble.
joe rogan
Bernie won New Hampshire, but New Hampshire is a very small state in the New England area.
They're very liberal.
New England's liberal in general, and he's like You know, he's a radical socialist.
He's got this socialist, democratic socialist agenda that a lot of people are like, hey, let's try that.
It's better than what we're dealing with now, these capitalist cunts that are stealing, just looking at the stock market, just looking at the financial district, just looking at the way they're moving numbers around and the fucking Wall Street crash of 2008. Obviously, there's a bunch of criminals that are running things.
And they're just extracting money from this goofy, abstract system that hardly anybody understands.
So having a guy like him come along, a lot of people, including me, go, it's probably the best thing to happen.
So you throw a little mix-me-up in there.
See what the fuck happens.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at the Trump curveball.
joe rogan
I'm not talking about Trump.
I'm talking about Bernie Sanders.
Yeah, Bernie Sanders or Trump curveball is interesting, too.
brendan schaub
Super interesting.
You're talking about a complete wild card.
You're telling me those are the two best America has to offer?
The smart people don't run for it.
Fuck that noise.
I don't want that bullshit.
joe rogan
Too much side pussy going on.
Too much bueno.
Real quick.
brendan schaub
You're going to want that part.
unidentified
Dude!
eddie bravo
Another documentary.
unidentified
He's a hero.
brendan schaub
He gets his dick sucked.
He's like going to this protest.
He's like, hold on, let me pull off real quick.
I was like, what's up, girl?
Yeah, it's the best.
ian mccall
He does it in the most suave Latin guy thing.
He's like, hola, over the fence.
You know, he's talking to her.
unidentified
We talked about running away with her and shit, leaving his family?
eddie bravo
Maybe.
joe rogan
I'd be right back.
brendan schaub
It's the best.
ian mccall
We need Chael to run for president because Chael would fight any other president and beat him up.
Putin would be a good fight.
joe rogan
You know who would be a real president, who really could be a president?
brendan schaub
Stan.
joe rogan
Brian Stan.
brendan schaub
I knew you were going to say that.
joe rogan
He really could do it.
He really could do it.
Vice President Tim Kennedy.
For reals.
Enjoy that ISIS. Break glass in case of war.
ian mccall
For real.
joe rogan
For real.
I'll fucking vote for that in a heartbeat.
brendan schaub
Anything Tim does, I'm on board.
joe rogan
You know what the real problem of being a president is?
Nobody can do it.
That's the real problem.
It's a stupid job that no one can do.
No one should have the job.
It shouldn't exist anymore.
It's antiquated.
And the only way we're going to realize that is there's going to be no one running.
It's going to be like 20, 30 years from now, no one's going to run for president.
eddie bravo
It's not going to make a difference.
ian mccall
Some homeless guy in a goat?
eddie bravo
You know, real quick documentary.
This is one that I've watched over and over.
It's really, really good.
brendan schaub
If you say it's the best of all time, I'm going to freak out.
eddie bravo
No, it's not.
It's not.
But it's really, really good.
Especially for conspiracy theorist type.
It's called How Big Oil Conquered the World.
It's how it all started back in the mid-1800s.
How it all started with John D. Rockefeller.
brendan schaub
And you always hear about the Rockefellers.
eddie bravo
Oh, they own everything.
Or the Rothschilds.
Oh, they're the bankers.
They own everything.
But to actually find out how he was raised, John Rockefeller, and how evil his dad was, and this is all like, you know, public knowledge.
It's fucking amazing how the birth of oil in the United States, this documentary is called about the birth of oil, and how it came in and infected all our lives, and how John Rockefeller monopolized Dude, I got another one for you, and it's your boy, that Prescription Thugs.
brendan schaub
That's a good doc.
Some crazy shit.
eddie bravo
That's all John Rockefeller.
Dude, he controlled big pharma, he controlled our educational system, everything.
One dude, the first billionaire, one dude controlled everything.
brendan schaub
This Prescription Thugs is some shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've heard.
I can't wait.
brendan schaub
Same guy, he did Trophy Kids.
Have you seen Trophy Kids?
joe rogan
I have not.
brendan schaub
Watch that.
That's the way he did it.
joe rogan
Bigger, Faster, Stronger, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
He does really good stuff.
eddie bravo
What's it called again?
brendan schaub
Prescription Thugs.
eddie bravo
That sounds fucking scary as shit.
ian mccall
I've seen Trophy Kids and Bigger, Faster, Stronger.
eddie bravo
Netflix?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
It just came out.
Oh, I know.
brendan schaub
Dude, there's one.
I know I'm all over the place.
But there's one.
Vice had a thing on people taking their own lives.
And I think there's eight states in the United States.
Fucking vice.
I don't know how this journalist got this job.
This old bitch is like, yeah, I'm trying to go, man.
They film it.
I was in bed 10 o'clock at night.
I gotta watch this bitch die.
It was nuts, man.
Did you freak out?
I was in a weird space, man.
I was in a weird space because her whole family's there, and she has this disease where it's not going to get better.
She's going to forget everyone.
There's no cure.
It's done-zo.
And so she talked to this lady, gets approved.
Lady comes over.
She's like, yeah, that's my coffin there.
You guys want coffee?
She's all happy.
And then her family comes.
They all hug her and they all, have a safe trip.
She's like, thanks.
Danka.
She keeps going, Danka, Danka.
Lays down and everyone's like, see you soon.
She's like, yes.
Injector and done.
It's like, hey, HBO, I'm not ready for this shit, man.
Fucked my whole night up.
Check it out, though.
It's the new Vice.
Pretty dope.
joe rogan
Vice is a crazy fucking show.
I watched one episode.
I don't remember what country they were in, but they were all wearing bulletproof vests, and they were moving from one set of broken-down, rocket-shelled buildings to the next, and they're moving around somewhere in the Middle East.
And I'm watching this, and I'm like, fuck this.
This job.
If you're over there and then one guy would come to the camera trying to explain, well, the rebels are about three kilometers away and we have to stay down because they have been shooting.
Like, what the fuck are you talking about, man?
brendan schaub
The balls do that job.
Dude, that's like the James Foley documentary on HBO. You know the guy, Jim Foley, the guy who got caught by ISIS? He's a prisoner of war, and he got...
Jim.
Jim, who got decapitated on...
Yeah.
It's a documentary on him, and he's a frontline journalist.
It's fucking nuts, man.
He already got caught and got out and then went back, and then ISIS was like, yo, Doug, it's just too easy.
eddie bravo
One of our biggest fears is the end of the world.
The end of the world for us.
The end of civilization.
There's countries out there where it is already the end of civilization.
It's already over.
You go to Liberia, it's done.
If the world economy collapses and its fucking zombies come out and all that shit, nothing changes in Liberia.
It's the same fucking shit.
It's already the end of the world.
joe rogan
Have you seen the documentaries on Liberia from Vice?
eddie bravo
Oh yeah.
Captain Butt Naked.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the greatest.
brendan schaub
Dude, I can't get enough of them.
eddie bravo
General butt naked.
It's the end of the goddamn world over there.
Nothing changes there.
joe rogan
How about when he caught people eating human flesh on the corner and the reason why he knew the guy was selling human flesh because he knew what it tasted like.
ian mccall
He didn't eat it before.
eddie bravo
Mark Coleman.
brendan schaub
The world is some crazy shit, man.
eddie bravo
Yeah, man.
brendan schaub
Because I'll get done watching that shit like in Syria and Kenya, all that stuff, and then you're in this cushy home in LA. It's like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
How long would it take if all the power went out?
Like, how long would it take before some people started killing and eating people?
brendan schaub
Six months?
joe rogan
It wouldn't even take that long.
brendan schaub
You don't think six months?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
You don't think we'd rob all the 7-Elevens first?
joe rogan
If we all ran out of food and you had this one asshole that you really fucking hated, you'd love to eat his leg.
eddie bravo
Yes, the more you hate a guy, the tastier he looks.
ian mccall
Make some chili.
eddie bravo
Keep talking, motherfucker.
brendan schaub
Talking about some zombie shit now.
joe rogan
They definitely did that back in the day, man.
I mean, they definitely did that back in the day to intimidate the enemy in various cultures.
They would kill you and eat.
eddie bravo
On islands and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian mccall
Yeah, the Samoans and Tongans.
eddie bravo
I don't think...
Did Vikings cannibalize?
brendan schaub
I think it was like a thing back in the day.
How about Kevin Randall?
That's fucking sad.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
ian mccall
I was with him on Saturday.
I was at the Super Bowl party with him, and then I looked online the next day.
I was like, fuck.
brendan schaub
And he was all good at the Super Bowl party?
ian mccall
Yeah, he was just coughing a lot, which obviously was a pneumonia.
eddie bravo
Dude, he had the most potential ever.
ian mccall
Fuck.
brendan schaub
His wrestling, I mean, Chuck Liddell said he was the best, in his opinion, he said, best wrestler in college history.
eddie bravo
That's what Chuck Liddell said.
That was his opinion.
ian mccall
He was so happy.
And I've known him for maybe, we're not like good friends, but I've known him for 10 years and I see him once a year.
It's one of those things you have mutual respect because he's fucking Kevin Randleman.
Talking to him and then he's talking about his queen, his wife, how awesome she was.
I mean, I met my girlfriend and then he's talking about his four-year-old son.
brendan schaub
What a freak, though.
Athletically, they say he's like the best athlete to come to the UFC. No, he knocked out Krokop.
eddie bravo
Man, if he would've just got good at passing guard and mounting and taking backs.
Can you imagine that?
Kevin Roundman, if he would've got obsessed, and I've had several talks with him, say, get good at passing the guard and mounting and taking backs.
You'll be un-fucking-stoppable.
ian mccall
He was jacked.
joe rogan
He was the first guy that flatlined Krokop in pride.
ian mccall
From across the ring.
eddie bravo
Super nice guy, man.
joe rogan
The speed and power that guy had.
He was a real nice guy.
He was fun to be around, too.
He was real jovial.
brendan schaub
Young Mark Coleman.
eddie bravo
So not a dick.
So not a dick.
He was never a dick.
Ever.
joe rogan
So cool.
He was on my podcast this week.
He was talking about being in a hotel elevator with him the day before they fought.
And he said, good luck.
And Kevin said, good luck back to him.
And Kevin said, I'll make you a deal.
If you don't kick me, I promise to keep this on the feet.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Damn, that's nuts.
joe rogan
And Boss broke it, like, immediately.
He said Randallman started slapping his leg.
And he felt like he was saying, like, kick me and I'll take you down.
You know, like, he was trying to figure out what it is.
So he said, and then I faked through the leg and go with the front kick to the face.
brendan schaub
Fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then he took him down a lot.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
He's a great guy, man.
brendan schaub
It'd be good to get a CT scan of Randleman's brain, because we don't have a lot of knowledge on that, on MMA fighters' brains, huh?
joe rogan
That's a really good point.
I wonder if they were interested in doing that, because his family should.
eddie bravo
Is it too late?
joe rogan
Probably.
brendan schaub
I don't know how it works, but there's not a...
You know, MMA's so young, a lot of them don't die, and he's a legend.
He has a lot of fights, so it'd be good to get just to see what's going on with a lot of guys' brains.
joe rogan
I wonder if anybody's brought that up, because it's hard without being disrespectful or perceiving...
That you are disrespectful, saying something like that.
ian mccall
That's true.
brendan schaub
You think that's disrespectful?
joe rogan
No, I definitely don't.
brendan schaub
Oh, I'm not trying to be disrespectful at all.
joe rogan
I don't think you are at all.
ian mccall
We're in the know that we understand.
joe rogan
Asking that question would be hard.
Some people might have a hard time with their kid just dying.
Or their husband just dying.
brendan schaub
Because like Junior Seau, the guy who was literally my hero growing up as a kid, shot himself in the chest.
And the reason he shot himself in the chest, he was like, you guys need to study my brain, man.
I've had so many concussions.
They just said he wasn't the same guy.
eddie bravo
Did he kill himself?
brendan schaub
Yeah, shot himself in the chest.
eddie bravo
I didn't know that.
When was that?
brendan schaub
Three, four years ago, buddy?
eddie bravo
Junior Seau?
brendan schaub
Favorite athlete of all time.
eddie bravo
Fucking shit, I didn't know that.
brendan schaub
They said from so many concussions, like, his getaway was the ocean.
Like, he would get in the ocean, he was the happiest guy ever, had a great family, lived on the beach in Oceanside, and then he said all of a sudden, something kicked in and he wasn't happy anywhere.
Anywhere.
He'd fake it everywhere.
Then he'd go home, couldn't sleep, super depressed.
Bummer, man.
But again, the NFL's been around for so long, he gave his brain, right?
And they're like, yeah, CT, like a motherfucker.
So I'm not saying Roman has anything, but he's one of the legends with all these fights, who find pride, UFC, who we can actually see what the brain looks like.
Step in the right direction.
ian mccall
It's a good start.
brendan schaub
Heavy combo, fellas, sorry.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's important, though.
What you're saying is important.
It's important to think about, and it probably would have been a good idea.
I mean, who knows?
We don't know.
Maybe somebody else had brought that up.
But I don't know.
I hadn't thought about it.
All I had thought about was like, wow, the guy was only like, I think he was 44. 44. You know what's crazy?
brendan schaub
That's the first thing I thought about.
joe rogan
Yeah, it wasn't that old, man.
brendan schaub
But like you said, it might be disrespectful.
eddie bravo
Heart failure?
brendan schaub
You had pneumonia and then, right, you had complications and we went to the hospital.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck.
brendan schaub
Who brought the bad news beer?
eddie bravo
A lot of people are fucking dying, right?
It doesn't seem like...
Dude, in music, people, they're starting to drop off.
Rock stars are starting to drop off.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Lemmy for Motorhead, David Bowie.
brendan schaub
You can't party that hard.
eddie bravo
And miscellaneous guys, too, like guys that weren't that famous, like Jimmy Bane, the bass player for Dio.
They're slowly, boom.
brendan schaub
Dude, I forgot.
eddie bravo
It's that time.
All those years of partying in the 70s and 80s, You're starting to pay right now.
brendan schaub
It's going to get you.
eddie bravo
They're going to start dropping.
brendan schaub
But it's kind of worth it, isn't it?
To live those glory years for about 15 years.
joe rogan
Are you kidding?
eddie bravo
You know what's crazy?
It's all fucked up.
You know, that metal was huge in the 80s.
Hair metal and all that shit.
Guns N' Roses and Motley Crue.
And then died a horrible vanilla ice type death in the 90s and shit.
And in the 2000s.
But guess fucking what, dude?
Guess what?
brendan schaub
It's back.
eddie bravo
It's coming back.
unidentified
It's back, motherfucker.
eddie bravo
Clems and Roses doing...
brendan schaub
Tours.
Selling out tours.
eddie bravo
First of all, Motley Crue playing a couple nights at the Staples Center.
Come on, that's fucking incredible.
brendan schaub
They couldn't do that 10 years ago.
But Kiss is still doing the damn thing too.
eddie bravo
Kiss is beyond all that.
ian mccall
They've been doing that shit forever.
eddie bravo
Yeah, Kiss is different.
That's a whole different thing.
brendan schaub
Dude, Rolling Stones though.
eddie bravo
No, Rolling Stones never went down.
They never went down.
I'm talking about metal.
Guns N' Roses went fucking down.
Now, they're putting together that.
Finally!
They're putting together.
You know how big that Guns N' Roses reunion tour is going to be?
It's going to finally Slash and Axl made up and they said, let's do this.
Holy shit.
That's going to be fucking neat.
All that shit's coming back.
Hopefully.
For them, for Cousin and Rose.
brendan schaub
I've never seen you take a piss during a podcast ever.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why I figured everybody's here.
Why not?
A lot of people talking.
unidentified
It's a good time.
eddie bravo
It's the diet, bro.
joe rogan
I could hold it.
eddie bravo
Oh shit, here we go.
Cody and Ta King-ho.
joe rogan
Yeah, I could totally hold it if I wanted to.
brendan schaub
I've never seen it.
joe rogan
I know how to do it.
brendan schaub
You're like a little camel, you know?
joe rogan
I do have a weird bladder now.
But I think I trained it over six years of doing podcasts.
brendan schaub
I got the bladder.
ian mccall
It's all stretched out.
joe rogan
Yeah, it must be.
It's like an old hooker's pussy.
ian mccall
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
It's just super pliable.
What's up, James?
jamie vernon
I saw a trailer for John Travolta's new movie because this Arnold Schwarzenegger thing just made me think of it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, it looks so bad.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
unidentified
He's like the Punisher, kind of.
brendan schaub
Oh, fuck off.
eddie bravo
It's called I Am Wrath.
unidentified
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
Bro, but do you see him?
No, no.
joe rogan
I heard he's awesome in the OJ show.
brendan schaub
That's what I was going to say.
John Travolta and OJ as Shapiro is the shit.
joe rogan
They were playing the OJ show at the Comedy Store yesterday and everybody was raving about it.
I was like, really?
brendan schaub
It's good, but it's like Law and Order, but nothing happens.
joe rogan
I heard Cuba Gooding Jr. is the shit.
brendan schaub
Oh, see, he's my only problem.
Really?
Yeah, he's not that good.
Everyone else is the Bond.
Everyone else is spot on.
And then Cuban Union Jr. looks nothing like O.J. Well, he looks nothing like him, but I heard his acting...
joe rogan
Well, you kind of get a good actor, though.
And what good actor looks exactly like O.J.? None.
So you're going to take another guy and put him in prosthetics?
brendan schaub
My boy who did...
joe rogan
Whoa, that would be kind of creepy, right?
unidentified
That would be fucking weird.
joe rogan
That would be creepy as fuck.
brendan schaub
Robert Downey Jr. did it!
joe rogan
Idris Elba, they couldn't get him, because he's too big in the movies.
I mean, he's James Bond now.
But someone of that ilk, who's that good, and then you give him some crazy prosthetics.
brendan schaub
He goes blackface?
joe rogan
No, he's black already.
But you let him do a fucking Daniel Day-Lewis, where he just lives like that guy for a year, and he puts on the prosthetic, and like, is OJ? That would freak people the fuck out.
brendan schaub
Bro, I'm saying, you get Robert Downey Jr. does blackface as OJ Simpson.
He's already done in Tropic Thunder, and he's so good.
joe rogan
He's like one of the only white guys who's ever pulled off blackface in a comedy.
eddie bravo
What movie was funnier than Tropic Thunder?
Name one movie funnier than Tropic Thunder.
joe rogan
I don't think there's ever been a movie that was funnier, but that was about as funny as a movie.
eddie bravo
Dude, come on!
unidentified
Scene after, scene after, scene after, scene after, scene after, scene after.
Come on!
That was the funniest shit ever!
joe rogan
I'm black.
He went full retard?
eddie bravo
Come on, that scene?
brendan schaub
You never go full retard.
eddie bravo
You never go full retard.
joe rogan
That's like one of the greatest internet memes of all time.
eddie bravo
That may be one of the funniest scenes.
brendan schaub
It's his best acting job of all time.
eddie bravo
He played a black guy in...
Come on.
brendan schaub
But a solid black guy.
It was fucking money.
joe rogan
God damn, that was a good movie.
eddie bravo
How about the scene where Jack Black was tied to...
He told everyone, tie me to a fucking tree.
unidentified
And don't let me talk you into letting me out.
eddie bravo
That scene where he's offering to suck the dude's dick.
brendan schaub
He goes, come on.
Let me swallow the gravy.
eddie bravo
Let me swallow the gravy.
Come on.
Just bring it over here.
brendan schaub
Swallow the gravy.
eddie bravo
And then that gay black guy goes, I told you, man.
joe rogan
I'm into pussy.
eddie bravo
I love that movie, man.
Come on!
I love it.
ian mccall
Al Pacino, baby!
eddie bravo
One thing I'll never forget about that movie, the impression left on me when I'm like, okay, you hear it's good, and you go to the movies, I'm at the movie theater, I'm watching it, and in the beginning, when they blow that fucking director's head off, and you see, right there, I thought, oh, shit!
brendan schaub
You're in some shit.
eddie bravo
Yes!
unidentified
They blew that guy's head off!
They blew his head off!
eddie bravo
I'm like, this is going to be an amazing movie.
brendan schaub
Dude, how good was Tom Cruise as the fat agent?
joe rogan
Oh my god, it was amazing.
eddie bravo
The dancing and all that?
It was amazing.
brendan schaub
It might be the best movie of all time.
eddie bravo
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
It might be the best movie of all time.
eddie bravo
You know the craziest thing about that movie is every character, I think the only movie ever, where every character was a douchebag.
unidentified
Nobody was cool!
Nobody!
eddie bravo
Everybody was a douchebag!
There was no cool people.
It was making fun of the Simple Jacks.
Can you find that scene where Jack Black is tied to a tree?
joe rogan
He's tied to a tree begging for a blowjob.
Simple Jack!
unidentified
Simple Jack!
eddie bravo
Dude, Ben Stiller, his character was the ultimate douchebag.
ian mccall
Oh, the best.
eddie bravo
He was like the...
Oh, man.
brendan schaub
Here's your boy.
Here's your jiu-jitsu boy.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
eddie bravo
Takino.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
This is Takino, and then Hussimar Paul Harris is Tokino.
ian mccall
Very similar.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is the difference?
eddie bravo
One is Tankino at Little Tank, I think.
And the other one is Tokino, like Twister.
brendan schaub
I thought it was Tree Stump.
ian mccall
Yeah, it's a Tree Stump.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
Okay, that's what I said.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Well, fuck, man.
You're just telling us.
unidentified
I'm guessing.
eddie bravo
I'm telling you, I'm guessing.
brendan schaub
It's a pretty educated guess.
joe rogan
I feel better because of it.
eddie bravo
I think Torquino.
joe rogan
You know what I love when they say in the corner, when they go, Tranquilo, Tranquilo.
When they're telling you to relax.
eddie bravo
That's a Mexican.
joe rogan
Tranquilo.
Well, it's Portuguese, too.
unidentified
Tranquilo.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure.
brendan schaub
This is going to be a good fight.
joe rogan
In Portuguese, it's at least a similar sounding word, because I've heard guys in Brazilian dudes' corners calling it.
eddie bravo
You see her in her face?
She's like, I made this up.
brendan schaub
Eddie, is he still with Mackenzie?
Is he still with Mackenzie?
Not him.
He's with Paige, right?
eddie bravo
No, they're both not with anybody.
They're both single now.
brendan schaub
No, I think Cody's with Paige.
ian mccall
They're both dick-slingers.
joe rogan
And Cody, who is a murderous puncher.
brendan schaub
And a dime piece.
joe rogan
We don't have any idea...
How do you say it?
Taquinos?
brendan schaub
Ooh, he's trying to swing for the fences.
eddie bravo
I'm going to say Tank, Tank, Keenho.
joe rogan
Tank, Keenho.
eddie bravo
That's my guess.
joe rogan
How many times has he fought MMA, eh?
unidentified
Five.
eddie bravo
He's 5-0.
joe rogan
5-0, but all outside the UFC? Yes.
eddie bravo
What a tough first time.
First time.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And Cody's 7-0, but he doesn't have a ton of experience.
eddie bravo
I mean, his stand-up doesn't look that bad, right?
joe rogan
You know what?
brendan schaub
Cody has a ton of amateur fights.
joe rogan
He's winging punches from the outside.
He's going to get countered.
He's going to be super careful.
brendan schaub
Cody's going to knock this guy out.
joe rogan
Oh, you never know, man.
He might just decide, okay, it's time to go on a defensive shell and hit that double.
brendan schaub
Good luck taking Cody down.
joe rogan
Hard to take down for sure?
brendan schaub
It's good.
eddie bravo
Did he wrestle in high school and shit?
joe rogan
No, no, that's what I mean.
I mean the jiu-jitsu guy.
What kind of wrestling he has.
eddie bravo
I don't know, man.
All his greatest work has been done with the gi, so I don't know how it's going to translate.
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
Where did Cody wrestle?
brendan schaub
Just in high school.
joe rogan
But he's real good?
brendan schaub
Really, really good.
And that Team Alpha Male, they said he sets the standard as far as intensity.
He's a motherfucker.
eddie bravo
His footwork looks great, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's definitely got some nasty power.
eddie bravo
Oh, look at that.
He's hurt.
He's hurt.
ian mccall
And he has a gun in his back pocket.
unidentified
What?
ian mccall
Is that a gun in your pants?
eddie bravo
Dude, that's an amazing tattoo.
brendan schaub
How do you get through that?
joe rogan
Through the weigh-in.
eddie bravo
That's the hardest tramp stamp ever.
joe rogan
Goes right to his butthole.
brendan schaub
Dude.
ian mccall
And he has wings on his stomach.
joe rogan
Shot through the heart.
And you're to blame.
You give love.
brendan schaub
Dude, so no one knows if he's still with Paige?
Is that not a thing anymore?
unidentified
Nah, I got it.
brendan schaub
I'm just curious!
joe rogan
Oh, Cody took him down!
Let's see how much control he had.
None.
Didn't like it.
eddie bravo
He's gonna say, stand up.
Cody should not go to the ground with this.
joe rogan
Hell no.
Yeah, I don't think he'd probably like that.
But meanwhile, no controls.
Hey, Jibra, what would you have liked to have seen from him in that position?
eddie bravo
I don't know, man.
I mean, that's Tonkino.
brendan schaub
He can do whatever he wants.
joe rogan
Right, but what would you like when you're seeing a guy who's trying to go for that long part time?
eddie bravo
I think he's not going to be able to take him down, and I think he's going to lose the fight if he stays on his feet.
So if he can't take him down, and you can't...
Survive on your feet.
What else is left?
brendan schaub
Jump to guard.
eddie bravo
I mean, that's all you got left.
brendan schaub
Jump to half guard.
Pull half guard from the cage.
joe rogan
It's been done successfully many times.
eddie bravo
Many times.
brendan schaub
I wish Frank Mayer would do that.
eddie bravo
It's not some fantasy.
joe rogan
It works.
eddie bravo
And if you're good on your back.
If you got sweeps.
If you got fire off your back.
brendan schaub
He's a world champ.
joe rogan
Right.
eddie bravo
But I've never really seen him on his back.
He's the destroyer on top.
He destroys people going through him on top.
brendan schaub
I bet he's pretty good, though.
I bet his jiu-jitsu's better on his back than Cody's is on top.
joe rogan
His stand-up is not that bad.
He's definitely outgunned by Cody, but he's moving well.
He's getting out of the way of shit well.
He's landing some decent leg kicks.
brendan schaub
Especially for 5-0 in the jiu-jitsu background.
His stand-up's not bad at all.
joe rogan
It's not that bad.
See, he's moving, he's trying to use that check hook as he's stepping back.
He's not running in a straight line with his hands down.
He's not doing anything dumb.
brendan schaub
He's not being reckless, that's for sure.
ian mccall
No, he's taking his time.
joe rogan
He's smart.
He's very smart.
Anybody that gets that good at jiu-jitsu, man, when you're hitting that super mastery level where you're beating the best guys in the world, Well, those guys, all they have to do is just focus on the new thing, and they start picking up the new thing with the same sort of clarity that they pick up, as long as they don't have any physical issues.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Especially jiu-jitsu guys, though.
They're so cerebral.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
They're so smart.
They bring you into the octagon, I feel like.
joe rogan
There's a difference in the way you move, though, and the problem is that some guys who are grapplers, they never seem to figure out how to develop that explosive snap.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Bro, I'm talking like you were saying the world-class world champions like Jacare, Damian Maia, like those motherfuckers, when they bring that same mindset to MMA, dude, they're fucking nightmares.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jacare right now.
eddie bravo
Oh, he got hurt?
joe rogan
Oh, look at that!
eddie bravo
Oh, shit!
Takino got some stand-up.
ian mccall
It's scary to have someone with that sort of mastery even.
You got that good at something.
brendan schaub
Holy shit.
eddie bravo
Cody just dropped it.
unidentified
Mario, stop the fight.
brendan schaub
Go ahead and hate on that stoppage, Eddie.
joe rogan
Damn.
eddie bravo
I hate that shit.
I hate that shit.
Anyone see brain trauma?
Safety!
Safety on three!
joe rogan
One, two, three!
unidentified
Safety!
joe rogan
It's a fight!
eddie bravo
He just got fucked up!
joe rogan
That was over, dude.
That fight was legit.
eddie bravo
No, they couldn't let it go.
brendan schaub
No, Eddie.
eddie bravo
He got in the way.
joe rogan
Let's look at it again.
I was happy with it.
I felt like Cody scrambled his brain.
eddie bravo
Cody would've won.
brendan schaub
I agree.
eddie bravo
100% Cody would've won.
unidentified
You missed it?
ian mccall
Yeah.
I was looking at you.
eddie bravo
We want to see a little...
joe rogan
Here he is.
Here we go.
eddie bravo
We want to see violence.
He's out on his feet.
brendan schaub
Look at this, Eddie.
joe rogan
Look at this.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Bam!
Oh, right, left, and a right.
brendan schaub
Look, he's out there.
eddie bravo
No, he's fine there.
joe rogan
Not really.
Mario Yamasaki in the way.
That was terrible positioning by Mario Yamasaki.
eddie bravo
Don't tell me that was a good stoppage.
brendan schaub
It was a good stoppage.
joe rogan
Okay, it's a little suspect.
brendan schaub
Look, he's rough there.
joe rogan
Look at that!
He's in his way!
eddie bravo
And then what?
joe rogan
I don't know what's going on there.
Now I'm agreeing with Eddie.
First of all, the positioning by Mario Yamasaki was terrible.
You're not supposed to do that.
You're not supposed to step in between unless you're stopping the fight.
So he stepped in between, then he stepped out.
Like, he got in between the action, and then he let the action go on.
I don't think you're ever really supposed to do that.
That was a moment of indecision, or he wanted to get a better look at him, and that was the only way he could do it.
But it's a mistake to go between the two fighters, because, at least in my opinion, it makes the fighters think that the fight stops, so a guy backs off, where he could have landed shots in that To really end it?
If Mario hadn't been in his way.
brendan schaub
I agree.
100%.
joe rogan
I mean, he drops him.
He's hurt.
He's on top of him.
Those couple seconds sometimes is all you need to get enough clarity to grab a leg or to try to scramble back up to your feet or to clench.
So that second or so where Mario walks in front of him, that interfered.
eddie bravo
Mario really fucked up, right?
You didn't hear what he just said?
brendan schaub
No, I heard what he said.
No, Mario fucked up.
Whether Mario jumped in or not, Cody's winning that fight right there.
Whether he got more head trauma or not, that fight was over.
eddie bravo
But do you understand that the fans want definitive closure?
brendan schaub
Yes, and I do not give a fuck.
eddie bravo
You don't care about the fans?
brendan schaub
No, not when it comes to that guy's safety.
His first fight in the UFC, he was out on his feet.
eddie bravo
Okay, it's all about safety.
I get it.
ian mccall
Speaking of head trauma...
joe rogan
I think Eddie's being passive-aggressive.
eddie bravo
No, you know what?
I get it.
Mario fucked us.
brendan schaub
Mario's the real loser here.
He really fucked us.
joe rogan
Oh, how dare you.
brendan schaub
Well, no, I'm saying if there's a loser in the fight, it's Mario.
joe rogan
Mario, if you're out there.
brendan schaub
No, Mario, I love you the heart.
eddie bravo
By the way, Brendan, you know I love you.
I'm not trying to talk shit.
brendan schaub
I know, brother.
unidentified
This is just like...
eddie bravo
What?
Don't ever apologize on a fight campaign.
joe rogan
Your opinion is super valid.
Hell yeah.
We gotta argue.
brendan schaub
I love to argue.
eddie bravo
As long as we're clear with that.
joe rogan
Eddie's always been of the mind that you should let guys take a few more hits on the ground rather than a few less.
brendan schaub
That's the majority.
And I'm saying I've been in there.
joe rogan
It's arguable.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
With the head trauma and I see how it affects friends.
And I'm just like, man, I wish you'd stop it a little earlier.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Because the odds are homeboy's not going to win that fight.
So might as well stop the fight another day.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you don't know that.
Frankie Edgar.
eddie bravo
There have been plenty of fights.
Exactly.
There have been plenty of fights.
brendan schaub
I love the exceptions, though.
That's the exception.
I'm talking about in general.
eddie bravo
There would be more of those exceptions if there would have been more referees letting it go.
brendan schaub
Like, how about Weidman?
Maybe Weidman's not the same.
Or Junior Dos Santos.
Maybe he's not the same.
joe rogan
Weidman fight without a doubt should have been stopped at the end of the fight.
eddie bravo
You need to start a fund.
Some kind of fund.
joe rogan
You don't think the Weidman fight should have been stopped at the end of the third?
eddie bravo
You know what?
I would be lying if I said I didn't like the violence.
I like dudes getting fucking smashed.
brendan schaub
That's the majority.
People enjoy that.
Because that's what they pay to watch.
eddie bravo
I like that.
brendan schaub
From my point of view as the ex-fighter, it's like, dude, let him fight another day.
He has a long career, man.
Let's just stop it.
You're going to get way more fights out of him.
eddie bravo
That's why it's so glorious when Chuck After he wins, he's like a fucking viking.
It's like, that's why?
Because it's so dangerous.
You could get shut off, but I didn't get shut off.
unidentified
You got shut off.
brendan schaub
I know, that's great.
And then in 20 years, you see these boys and they're drooling and they don't know where the fuck they're at.
eddie bravo
You know what they knew?
They know the risk.
Alright?
brendan schaub
I know, but we can prevent some of it, is all I'm saying.
eddie bravo
Start a prevention fund.
Come on, start a prevention fund.
joe rogan
I like both of your attitudes about this.
You know what my attitude right now is?
I hope that science hits some point where medical science will figure out some way to just revive the brain.
brendan schaub
That'd be so dope.
joe rogan
I mean, why can't they?
If they could do all this different stuff to make your muscle tissue repair, and they can fix all kinds of stuff.
Like, who knows what they could do with, like, maybe one day they're going to be able to shoot stem cells into your brain.
brendan schaub
That's the ticket.
If you do that, we're all...
Hell yeah, let's go out on...
Do you imagine?
You got a bunch of Leonard Garcias now.
joe rogan
Fuck this noise.
eddie bravo
Meanwhile, what are the side effects?
It would be just like...
Imagine the side effects.
Fucking nightmares every night.
brendan schaub
I'll take it.
joe rogan
I'll take it.
Every night, would you take it?
Maybe it's awesome.
Maybe it's going to be like steroids for the brain.
That'd be so sick.
unidentified
Maybe we're going to get like...
joe rogan
You know how you see bodybuilders?
They're fucking ridiculously oversized.
You're going to get people with giant Mars attacks brains.
brendan schaub
Like Peaky and the brains?
unidentified
Mars attacks.
brendan schaub
That's a great reference.
joe rogan
They're just going to run the stock market and shit.
unidentified
They're just going to continue to run the world.
joe rogan
And everybody's going to say, there's fucking juicers out there running the world.
We're going to get mad that people are brain juicing.
unidentified
The problem is, it's the elite.
joe rogan
That's such a great reference.
brendan schaub
Martin's attacking forever.
joe rogan
Another classic movie, son.
eddie bravo
We did a great job in science.
All sorts of science and haters be going like, motherfucker brain juice.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's juicy.
eddie bravo
He's super smart.
joe rogan
Yeah, he read your mind, bitch, because he's on steroids.
eddie bravo
Try reading minds without steroids.
joe rogan
I don't care.
He read my mind.
He made me cum.
He's cheating!
You know, that's like when you see a giant bodybuilder do, that's the first thing that every guy says.
Boy, he under-committed to that kick.
He backed off that kick.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he didn't commit.
joe rogan
And Cody caught him with a beautiful counter.
eddie bravo
Imagine Jeopardy, where they test for steroids.
joe rogan
is this on is this on yes well I'm gonna take a piss on that yeah that was that was a big fuck up That's a big fuck-up right there.
I mean look, I don't want to do that job.
That's a way harder job than doing commentary.
My job doing commentary is the easiest one out of all the jobs in the UFC. Slightly harder than Ariane's job.
brendan schaub
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
It's slightly harder than Arianna's job.
brendan schaub
Until someday you go away and they have to replace you.
Everyone's like, God, who's the last?
joe rogan
Who's the last?
Brian Stan's doing it.
We're here.
We're here in Woodland Hills partying it up.
brendan schaub
And more people are listening to you talk about Mars Attacks than Brian Stan break down the fights.
unidentified
Just the way it is.
joe rogan
Motherfucker brain juicing.
Dude.
brendan schaub
Ain't that reference of the night?
eddie bravo
Nobody can be that smart, okay?
unidentified
Bullshit!
joe rogan
Is he brain juicing?
eddie bravo
Dude, he's talking about physics and shit.
Come on.
joe rogan
He's juicing.
eddie bravo
He's gotta be juicing.
joe rogan
He's got to have his skull removed.
They put his brain to fish tank.
He's a fucking juicer.
ian mccall
He knows about physics.
eddie bravo
He got popped twice.
ian mccall
He can cook.
unidentified
He got popped twice on pop quizzes.
ian mccall
He's got like 10 degrees.
eddie bravo
What's the host of Jeopardy?
What's that guy's name?
joe rogan
Alex Trebek.
eddie bravo
Alex Trebek.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
He's going to be like Dana White doing press conferences and shit.
We got the most stringent tests of all game shows.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
eddie bravo
That's going to be dudes way smarter than Einstein.
joe rogan
If you think about that, man, that's going to happen for sure.
Brain juice.
They already have things like Modafinil, which they've outlawed in the Olympics.
You can't have that in the Olympics anymore.
And that started out as a smart drug.
That was a drug that they created.
They had to say that they made it for people who had narcolepsy.
ian mccall
It made me angry.
joe rogan
They originally didn't...
Modafinil makes you angry?
brendan schaub
Really?
ian mccall
Yeah, I took it for an extended period of time.
eddie bravo
Because you're so smart and you get angry at how dumb people are.
ian mccall
How stupid everyone is.
joe rogan
Here's a funny thing out of you like this.
They came up with it just for performance enhancing reasons.
It was created for that.
But then because it's a prescription drug, they had to have a reason to prescribe it, like an illness.
That's how drugs are set up.
You can't say, hey, you need a prescription to be more awesome.
I'm going to take awesome pills.
No, you have to have something wrong with you.
I'm not awesome.
I got diagnosed as unawesome.
So then once you're diagnosed as unawesome, you can take modafinil.
So you have to say, like, I'm experiencing fatigue or I drive and I need to stay awake when I drive.
It has to be something like that.
I get narcolepsy.
So they have this drug that's used through Silicon Valley.
Silicone?
How do they say it?
Silicone.
eddie bravo
Wait a minute.
There's already brain juice?
joe rogan
Listen, these guys that are running these tech companies, they're all taking modafinil.
It is the drug of silicone valve.
brendan schaub
Is this the limitless pill you're talking about?
eddie bravo
This is real?
Where do I get it?
joe rogan
Yes, modafinil.
I'll get you a prescription.
This is real?
It's New Vigil.
eddie bravo
Have you heard about this, Jamie?
ian mccall
Pro Vigil or New Vigil?
eddie bravo
Are you on it?
joe rogan
I have it.
I have a prescription for it.
eddie bravo
I want it.
joe rogan
I'll give you some.
eddie bravo
No wonder you're so fucking smart.
I knew it was bullshit!
ian mccall
Pretty sure I just witnessed a crime.
joe rogan
What it does...
No, I'm going to get it in my prescription.
What it does is...
Cheater.
I very rarely take it.
This is when I take it.
I'll take it if I know I'm tired and I've got to drive or if I've got to do something and I really want to be sharp or if I don't feel.
But I don't take it before podcasts anymore.
I've taken it before like four or five podcasts ever.
eddie bravo
That would be the time to take it.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, not necessarily.
Because sometimes you want a conversation to be as...
You don't want it to be too ramped up.
You gotta know when to be casual.
You wanna be able to be casual effortlessly, as well as be amped up.
See, I think Modafinil is really good if I want to be amped up, but I don't necessarily think it would be good if I wanted to be casual.
You know what I'm saying?
eddie bravo
You take it like Viagra on the first date, you're like, I'm gonna fucking...
Dazzle this bitch with science.
unidentified
You start talking about some shit you don't know nothing about.
eddie bravo
This shit's just coming to me.
I don't know what it is.
You're like breaking down fucking molecules and shit.
I don't know.
joe rogan
It doesn't work anymore because all she has to do is go into her phone.
I just Googled what you said and it's nonsense.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
It's the closest thing to Limitless.
joe rogan
What does that sound?
eddie bravo
You googled what?
You're the one that's talking about it?
unidentified
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
It's the closest thing to Limitless pills, right?
ian mccall
I thought I kept hearing noises this whole fucking time you guys been talking about it.
eddie bravo
Yeah, I thought I heard some shit too.
joe rogan
What was going on over there, Jamie?
ian mccall
Were you fucking with it?
I was like, wait a second.
eddie bravo
Acid beer.
Can you imagine if they put acid in beer?
joe rogan
Oh, Jamie was playing the Mars Attacks thing.
eddie bravo
You should have Tropic Thunder on that bitch, not fucking Mars Attacks.
Mars Attacks is like top 200 maybe.
brendan schaub
So don't sleep on Mars Attacks.
eddie bravo
Is Mars Attacks good?
I never saw it.
brendan schaub
Jack Nicholson?
joe rogan
It's fucking amazing.
Mars Attacks?
ian mccall
Hilarious.
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
It still holds up.
I watched it a year ago.
It's funny.
brendan schaub
Dude, I just watched probably six months ago.
joe rogan
It's really funny.
It's Tim Burton.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's a classic.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a classic.
unidentified
Alright, alright.
eddie bravo
I'm skeptical.
No, you know, I don't dare you.
Dude, when you tell me to watch something, I watch it.
Game of Thrones.
unidentified
Alright.
eddie bravo
I resisted Game of Thrones for years!
brendan schaub
I've never seen it.
eddie bravo
He said, bro, just fucking watch it.
Do you like it?
joe rogan
Of course.
eddie bravo
Who doesn't like Game of Thrones?
brendan schaub
I've never seen it.
eddie bravo
If you don't like Game of Thrones, they should arrest you.
joe rogan
Natasha Leggero doesn't like it.
brendan schaub
Hold up.
Is there dragons in it?
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
I'm not going to watch it.
eddie bravo
You don't believe in dragons?
brendan schaub
You don't believe in dragons!
You don't believe in dragons!
Eddie, I'm 32 years old.
joe rogan
He's a father.
He's a father.
brendan schaub
I'm a grown man.
eddie bravo
I can't even get in a conversation with someone that doesn't believe in dragons.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Come on!
ian mccall
Listen here, Santa Claus.
Time to fucking grow up, Peter Pan.
eddie bravo
Hey, Santa Claus, that's another story.
There's not enough evidence for Santa Claus.
unidentified
You don't believe in dragons?
ian mccall
Have you seen Vikings?
Speaking of...
It's supposed to be factual.
joe rogan
No.
Is that bad?
ian mccall
No, it's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
The show?
ian mccall
Yeah, Vikings is bad.
It's all about Ragnar, Lothbrok.
eddie bravo
Is it based on reality?
ian mccall
Yes, it's based on reality and it's Vikings.
Vikings just fucking ruin everything.
It's awesome.
They just...
joe rogan
They were horrible.
eddie bravo
Were they the first terrorists?
That's what I heard.
ian mccall
Fuck yeah, they were.
joe rogan
Well, they were conquerors.
There was a bad time when someone...
It wasn't like...
You know, but a few hundred years ago, where a ship showed up at your shore, you got a real fucking problem.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're gonna fuck your girl bad.
joe rogan
Oh, they're fucking everybody.
eddie bravo
They're killing everybody.
You better have catapults with fucking balls of fire ready to go.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's no technology drones.
You're gonna have to battle that shit with your hands.
joe rogan
Can you imagine living back then?
You would get nothing done.
eddie bravo
How about those motherfuckers that were on the front line?
joe rogan
Because all you're doing is like shaping swords, getting ready for the invasion.
eddie bravo
And fucking.
Every brave heart beat.
And killing battle is the same.
joe rogan
Making arrows.
ian mccall
Trying not to die.
Trying to live past 25. Dude, come on.
eddie bravo
When there's a rugby team of a thousand people here, a thousand people there, and they just rush each other, how the fuck do you...
The only way you can convince a guy to do that is you gotta make sure he believes in Jesus, and you gotta make sure he believes in God, because you're doing it for God.
brendan schaub
I was too sure about that shit.
joe rogan
But that was Odin back then.
eddie bravo
Whatever.
Whatever it is.
If they didn't believe in that shit...
brendan schaub
Bro, that's like the suicide bombers now.
The only reason they can convince them is because they think they're going to heaven.
eddie bravo
How about that bit you had, man?
Oh, shit.
How about, I don't even know how it goes, but it was something about, what if the guys that got sent over here to blow up America just started partying at the skybox?
unidentified
And then they get angry phone calls and they go, Allah, why are you still alive?
eddie bravo
And I'm like, oh!
unidentified
Do you remember that one?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was from Shiny Happy Jihad.
Why are you still alive?
eddie bravo
Because you're supposed to blow yourself a week.
You're supposed to blow yourself up a week ago.
No, no.
They were on to us.
We had to hide out.
unidentified
And they're partying at the sky bar with their Mercedes.
eddie bravo
Ish, ish, ish, ish, ish.
Because why are you still alive?
unidentified
It's so stupid.
brendan schaub
That's the greatest line ever.
eddie bravo
Why are you still alive?
They get angry phone calls.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
eddie bravo
That would be a great animated little series about some dudes that came over to the States that were supposed to blow themselves up, but they just started partying, and they said, fuck that shit.
brendan schaub
They realize it's awesome here.
joe rogan
You're never going to see a suicide bomber from Beverly Hills.
They have to come from somewhere that sucks.
The idea of death.
It's more appealing than staying alive.
unidentified
You can't send them to Newport Coast and think they're going to kill people.
eddie bravo
The guys that are organizing this shit in the Middle East, they got to make sure they send them to Minnesota or some shit.
They can't send them on a one-way ticket to LA. It never works.
They realize that doesn't work.
They can't fuck with LA. They got to send them to Illinois or some shit like that.
joe rogan
Minnesota.
Yeah.
Minnesota.
brendan schaub
Wyoming.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Oh, they'll go through with the plans.
They're like, okay, let's do it.
After like a week, they go, let's fucking do it.
ian mccall
Fuck these people.
joe rogan
We do it for our...
brendan schaub
Yeah, you send them to Miami.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Remember, there's no seven Remember, there's got to be some guy convincing dudes in the Middle East that are looking for the dumbest motherfuckers to hypnotize.
There's got to be some guy looking to convince them to blow themselves up.
You've got to throw pussy at them, right?
Remember, 72 virgins.
brendan schaub
Well, their IQ levels are lower than everyone else's.
eddie bravo
Part of your bit was, how did they get to 72?
They must have offered 12 at first.
unidentified
I'm like, I ain't blowing myself up.
eddie bravo
He's going to be like, dude, I'll go through 12 bitches in one night.
joe rogan
I've talked to God.
He's final offer, 72. You know what?
eddie bravo
If that was real, if you could prove that shit, if you killed yourself and you got 72 virgins for the eternity, I know dudes personally that would do that shit.
That's a good deal.
You just gotta convince them that it's real.
That's a good deal.
72. Rotate one every week.
Boom.
You could go forever.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what if it all burns out when they all die?
Because if you're talking about eternity, like, you might be eternal, but if they're really 72 virgins, that means they're only, like, 20, and so they've got, like, 80 years of life left if they eat vegetables and take all their vitamins.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
eddie bravo
If you're in heaven...
joe rogan
You're going to die, but you're going to stay alive, and there will be old ladies.
No, no, no.
So you only want to fuck them for the first 40 years.
eddie bravo
That's not like that.
joe rogan
Once they get into 50 and 60, it's like charity work.
brendan schaub
Then you're jacking out for the rest of the time.
eddie bravo
Then it's the Twilight Zone.
joe rogan
They're begging you not to break their hips.
ian mccall
Please don't.
eddie bravo
Zombies, fuck me.
ian mccall
The dealership and the guy breaks out the calculator.
He's like, well, you know, if I can give you this many, bro, I think...
eddie bravo
The negotiations.
Imagine the negotiations for 72. They decided on 72. They knew 50 wouldn't be enough.
joe rogan
You're not going to get anybody for 50. And you could do it like the lottery where you take like a little bit every month.
So listen, my friend, you want to keep this rolling?
You don't want all the bitches at once.
And then they will die and grow old.
This is what you want.
You want one virgin.
eddie bravo
You killed 100 people.
You killed 100 people in the bombing.
joe rogan
72 virgins, one for every 40, 50 years.
And you're good.
eddie bravo
Can you imagine the guys that are on the fence?
They're on the fence, and then they decide no, and then something bad.
The car breaks down, and the fucking transmission falls out, and they're like, or they...
They're saying a lot of them are...
brendan schaub
They're saying a lot of them, they're convincing their girls to do them.
They're forcing girls to do it now.
They talked them into it.
joe rogan
That was part of my bit.
eddie bravo
How are you going to fuck?
What was that?
joe rogan
That was part of my bit.
I was like, you're never going to see female suicide bombers.
brendan schaub
Now you are.
joe rogan
Because dick is just not worth that much.
eddie bravo
It's worth like that flyer.
joe rogan
Dick is way too accessible.
brendan schaub
A lot of them are slaves and they turn them into the suicide bombers.
Take me a downer.
eddie bravo
You said on your bit, dick is worth like that flyer you find after you leave a club and there's a flyer.
Dick is worth...
That much.
Dude, you had some fucking great suicide bomber shit.
joe rogan
That was when I was obsessed.
I was obsessed with suicide bombers.
eddie bravo
That was right after 9-11.
joe rogan
Yeah, from 9-11 to...
That was like 2001 to 2005 material.
That's when I put that on Shiny Happy Jihad.
eddie bravo
Oh man, that could have easily been like some fucking animated series about these guys that got talked into blowing themselves up.
joe rogan
I forgot about a lot of my bits, man.
eddie bravo
72 Virgins.
That's all you gotta discuss.
72 Virgins.
joe rogan
I forgot about the Sky Bar.
We had talked about doing that.
We had talked about making a bit out of that.
Like a thing out of that.
eddie bravo
But you decide, you're like, you know what?
I don't need no crazy motherfuckers coming after me.
That was disgust.
While we were on the man show, that was actually disgust.
brendan schaub
17 Kennedy's number.
I think it's time now.
unidentified
15 years later.
joe rogan
Move him into the house?
Juan Connero, very good jiu-jitsu.
Very good jiu-jitsu.
Very strong.
brendan schaub
Do you remember when Brunson took down fucking your boy?
joe rogan
Yeah, he did.
unidentified
Multiple times.
joe rogan
And he head-kicked him, too.
Remember that?
brendan schaub
Romero, yeah.
joe rogan
He hit Yoel Romero with that switch kick off the left leg.
brendan schaub
Kept taking him down.
unidentified
He's a stud.
joe rogan
He's a stud.
Derek Brunson is a stud.
brendan schaub
He just needs like a breakout fight.
joe rogan
Yep, he's getting better every time.
But he's like knocking on the door of potential, you know?
Look at that.
Greg Jackson in his Kona...
brendan schaub
I'd love to figure out how Greg's going to do the...
joe rogan
Has anybody been watching Paul Daly in Bellator?
How's he been looking?
brendan schaub
He just knocked out a dude.
joe rogan
He mocks out everybody.
brendan schaub
Just with that left hook.
He just finished a cat.
joe rogan
His left hand is retarded strong.
brendan schaub
He was fun to watch, right?
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
I was so bummed out when he got kicked out.
The whole thing was...
So unnecessary, man.
I don't know what horrible, nasty shit Koscheck was saying to him.
ian mccall
Josh is a dick.
He probably deserved it, but you shouldn't do that stuff, man.
joe rogan
I mean, what was he saying?
You definitely should never, ever, ever do that.
But man, and he didn't land the punch.
He should have apologized.
You know, it's like if cooler heads prevailed, if I was his friend, man, I would have pulled him aside and I would have said, Liz, make a public apology.
You lost your fucking Yeah, PR like a motherfucker.
Kudos to Josh Koscheck because he got inside my head so hard.
I got completely out of character.
I'm embarrassed.
brendan schaub
I'm ashamed.
unidentified
That's not me.
joe rogan
It'll never happen again.
I agree.
I'm so sorry.
I disrespect the sport.
I fully expect you to be fined and suspended for a period of time, but I will make reparations and I'm very disappointed in myself.
ian mccall
Go talk to kids, do whatever you have to.
joe rogan
And then they would have all been under the water right now and he would have had some insane fights with Condit, insane fights with Lawler, insane fights with so many guys.
We were robbed of some insane fights from Paul Daly.
He is one of the best 170-pound strikers on planet Earth in MMA. I'm so excited.
In MMA, his fucking left hook is over.
brendan schaub
His left hand.
joe rogan
His left hook is a piston.
He's one of the best in MMA. I love when he fights still.
How about when he fights Scott Smith?
ian mccall
So exciting.
joe rogan
Oh!
Jesus Christ!
brendan schaub
Remember when he fought Dwayne?
joe rogan
Yes!
brendan schaub
Our brother Dwayne?
unidentified
Dude!
joe rogan
Dude!
He's terrifying!
Mark Campman!
eddie bravo
Look at Roan throwing down now!
joe rogan
Holy shit!
eddie bravo
He's stuck with it!
joe rogan
Well, he's American Top Team.
He's their head jiu-jitsu coach.
eddie bravo
A lot of those guys retired, you know what I mean?
He's stuck with it.
A lot of experience.
It takes so long to get good at striking.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this.
brendan schaub
He gets you down, you're gonna be in trouble.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you've got to get Derrick Brunson down.
Derrick Brunson, look at that takedown defense.
Oh, shit.
Derrick's got a nasty left kick, too.
He throws it from southpaw, or he can throw it real good off the switch.
I'm pretty sure he hit Romero with it off the switch, but he didn't do it from anywhere.
Oh, big shot from Brunson.
eddie bravo
Oh, what's going to happen here?
brendan schaub
I felt like he wanted to go down there.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
I felt like he might have, but he's got a good roll.
Oh, he's getting teed off.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
I don't know, man.
What do you have to do to be defensive here?
eddie bravo
You've got to push him away.
It's hard to do anything against that.
joe rogan
How do you get the referee to not stop it?
eddie bravo
You've got to see that he's limp.
joe rogan
He's not limp.
brendan schaub
They tell you that.
joe rogan
How about Cowboy and Dos Anjos?
He never went limp there either.
brendan schaub
He's fine.
eddie bravo
He didn't move.
That was a bad call.
brendan schaub
He didn't move, Joe.
joe rogan
But he couldn't move.
He could have moved.
brendan schaub
He could have rolled to guard.
eddie bravo
Oh, it's over now.
joe rogan
Good point.
Alright, that's it.
eddie bravo
It's over now.
ian mccall
I wonder how many punches he just threw.
eddie bravo
It's hard to do anything against that fence.
No matter what guard you're playing against the fence, it's fucking...
brendan schaub
You gotta get off the fence.
eddie bravo
You gotta get off the fence.
No guard works against the fence.
ian mccall
You have to work.
If you're not working, you're gonna stop it.
joe rogan
Derrick Brunson...
brendan schaub
Brunson's a mother...
He needs a breakout fight.
That ain't it.
He needs a big-name breakout fight.
joe rogan
Well, that was a step towards a breakout fight for sure.
brendan schaub
I agree.
ian mccall
Somebody top ten.
eddie bravo
That's the best Ron Carnaro, you know, at this point.
His striking never looked better.
I mean, his footwork.
joe rogan
Damn.
Derrick Brunson's legit.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He's for real.
brendan schaub
He's a bitch to beat.
joe rogan
And he's getting better and better all the time.
eddie bravo
What if he fell on his head?
joe rogan
And broke his neck and died.
eddie bravo
And then that was it.
brendan schaub
Then they gave Ron the win.
eddie bravo
They gave Ron the win.
ian mccall
I just had all these flashes.
eddie bravo
It's an asterisk.
joe rogan
Did you ever see Paul Williams fight in boxing?
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Great fighter.
You know, lost that crazy knockout to Sergio Martinez.
He got hit with that left hand from hell.
eddie bravo
Right here, you've got to put feet on the hips and push them away.
brendan schaub
People forget Paul Williams before that fight was like the shit.
joe rogan
He did that a little bit.
Yeah, Paul Williams was awesome, but what I was going to say is a motorcycle accident.
He got hit by a car.
Some guy going through an intersection or something like that nailed him.
eddie bravo
I mean, that's some serious...
brendan schaub
He's paralyzed, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, paralyzed from the waist down.
He went flying through the air, apparently.
Damn.
Powerful Derek Brunsford.
eddie bravo
Dun, dun, dun, dun.
brendan schaub
Oh, we got Cowboy next.
joe rogan
Very impressive.
Here we go.
If you think about Bellator now, think about that.
You got Benson over there.
He's fighting 170. And Benson's got a good fight against that Russian cat.
brendan schaub
Dude.
joe rogan
Who's that Russian caddy's fighting?
brendan schaub
I can't even entertain this Bellator talk after what I saw the other day.
eddie bravo
What's happening with Yoel?
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's just the vast two fights, man.
Oh, Yoel Romero's fucked.
eddie bravo
What's going on with that?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
They're appealing.
brendan schaub
Can't be doing steroids.
eddie bravo
Can't you still say he has the best body in MMA? 100%.
unidentified
No.
eddie bravo
You can still say it?
brendan schaub
No, my boy Woodley does now.
joe rogan
No.
Yoel Romero.
Woodley has a fantastic body.
brendan schaub
Woodley's never failed a steroid test.
joe rogan
There's no doubt about it, but it doesn't matter.
Yes, it does.
We're just talking about result.
We're not talking about, like, the what got you for the care.
eddie bravo
No, it doesn't matter.
It may matter.
brendan schaub
My boy Alan Joban has, you know, he has something to say.
joe rogan
Listen, listen.
Alan Joban isn't a very, he's got a very good body, but it cannot fuck with the freak show.
That's what Yoel Romero is.
brendan schaub
Well, the freak show's on some freak shit.
eddie bravo
Allegedly.
brendan schaub
Now think if Alan Joban had his shit.
ian mccall
He's under investigation.
brendan schaub
Think if Alan Joban took his shit.
joe rogan
But we're not saying that.
eddie bravo
We're not talking about faces, okay?
We're not talking about faces.
brendan schaub
You're talking pound for pound bodies right now?
joe rogan
No, we're not talking about how they got there.
We're talking about what results were achieved.
brendan schaub
I'm gonna have to go with Uber Eam then, when he fought Brock Lesnar.
joe rogan
Yes, that's the best.
eddie bravo
Now where does Sage come into this?
If you're talking about Yo-Yo Romero.
brendan schaub
He's 19, get on my face.
He's 19 and white.
joe rogan
Get on my face.
ian mccall
What is he even eating?
brendan schaub
Get on my face, son.
joe rogan
Fucking white people.
He's 19 and white, get on my face.
rowdy roddy piper
You don't like white people?
joe rogan
I mean, we're tired of white people.
brendan schaub
He's talking about best bodies, though.
eddie bravo
He's tired of them.
brendan schaub
Tired of white people.
joe rogan
Tired of them.
brendan schaub
Breathing all our ear.
eddie bravo
Wide nose having.
joe rogan
Yeah, but as far as the guys that I've seen step into the octagon where I was like, what in the fuck?
Yoel Romero's the number one what in the fuck body of all time.
brendan schaub
That's a skinny Woodley, too.
Look at Woodley now, though.
Dude, Woodley has something to say.
Woodley has that apple bottom out the back, too.
ian mccall
I gotta see their ass.
joe rogan
I can't really comment until I see their ass.
eddie bravo
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Here's where Yoel Romero disappears from the pack.
Traps.
His traps are literally from another planet.
They start at the top of his head.
They go all the way down the back of his neck.
They're the biggest fucking traps.
Like, when you see him, he just looks like he could throw you to the moon.
brendan schaub
Alright, let's say just...
As far as best body...
Dude, as far as best body, let's say you have a product, you want to hire a model.
I'm not hiring him.
joe rogan
We're talking about fucking him.
I'm talking about hiring models, too.
eddie bravo
We're talking about fucking?
joe rogan
Yeah, we're not talking about hiring him.
brendan schaub
I'm still picking Woodley or Joban, because they're fazed.
joe rogan
Look at that picture.
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Alright, he's fucking jacked.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Look at the trap to shoulder ratio off the charts.
brendan schaub
Dude, show Overeem when he fought Lesnar.
ian mccall
Wait, he's on drugs?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
What the fuck?
joe rogan
No, peptides.
brendan schaub
It's up for...
joe rogan
He was a freak, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, Overeem when he fought Lesnar was a better body.
joe rogan
Well, Overeem when he fought Lesnar was also a hundred pounds heavier when he weighs in.
brendan schaub
He made me want to retire then.
joe rogan
Just remember what I just said.
He's a hundred pounds heavier when he weighed in.
brendan schaub
Get the fuck out of here.
unidentified
You're taking pictures.
eddie bravo
Look at Joe.
Joe's taking video.
joe rogan
I have my phone out.
I have my phone out taking pictures of his ass.
ian mccall
Wait, he's a hundred pounds heavier than what?
joe rogan
He's a hundred pounds heavier than Yoel Romero when Yoel weighs in.
ian mccall
I thought you were saying he gained a hundred pounds heavier.
joe rogan
I mean, it's only really 80, but think about the difference between a 185 and a 265. 265 with world-class striking.
I mean, it's only 80 pounds.
I'm exaggerating by saying 100, but not by much.
You wouldn't really be able to tell the difference if he was 20 pounds heavier than that.
brendan schaub
Oh, come on, son.
joe rogan
Look at that.
brendan schaub
Best body in the MMA. Look at that.
joe rogan
When he fought Brock, I bet, oh my god.
Yeah, I bet that's as big as a man can get.
brendan schaub
And still be functional, yeah.
joe rogan
He was amazing.
eddie bravo
I don't think you guys are giving white guys love enough.
unidentified
Amazing.
eddie bravo
I think you guys are...
ian mccall
He's a freak.
There we go, yeah!
brendan schaub
I'm just saying that beautiful mocha skin, man.
ian mccall
That's sex right there.
joe rogan
Big country.
brendan schaub
Big country.
Last fight with Rochelt.
joe rogan
That guy has a lot of fucking Twitter followers.
A lot of Facebook love.
Yeah, he does, man.
brendan schaub
People love him some more.
joe rogan
It just seems like it's not capitalized on enough.
brendan schaub
Dude, you know what's crazy?
I agree.
ian mccall
America loves him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, it seems like someone, somehow, should have taken advantage.
Some company should have scooped him up for commercials or something like that.
eddie bravo
A reality show.
joe rogan
Well, just a commercial.
Like, getting him a gig.
brendan schaub
Burger King or something.
He was close signed with Burger King, I think.
unidentified
Was he?
brendan schaub
Dude, I haven't talked to Roy in a while, right?
We did the Ultimate Fighter together.
We did our live fire and the kid in Vegas out there.
I get a text like 10 minutes before the show goes, Love you, brother.
You can do great tonight.
Can't wait to see it.
I'm like, who the fuck is this?
I go, who is this?
It's Roy, man.
I'm in the crowd.
I was like, dude, he's that dude.
He's such a nice guy.
joe rogan
His wife is very cool, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's one of those guys that I feel like if he had someone who understood how to market him better to sponsors and stuff, I could see that dude doing a ton of commercials.
brendan schaub
He had his wife doing his management.
joe rogan
Well, you need someone who knows how to sell you to a motor oil company.
You're talking about CAA. Yeah, remember when Chuck was doing those, what were they?
Some car.
ian mccall
Duralast.
joe rogan
Duralast.
What is the Duralast?
ian mccall
Battery.
joe rogan
Battery.
Remember the battering wrecking ball hits him in the face and all that kind of shit?
brendan schaub
Chuck was also world champ, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, true.
I feel like Roy could be in some humor.
ian mccall
He could have the Larry the Camper guy shtick.
eddie bravo
Bass fishing type stuff.
You know, bass fishing equipment, like the boats and shit and the swamps.
brendan schaub
I'm with you.
joe rogan
What?
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
He would be perfect.
Come on.
There's trillions in that.
joe rogan
If you want to sell money to people in the bass fishing world, you have to have a bass fishing star.
They have stars.
eddie bravo
You don't think those guys watch the UFC? Oh, they definitely do.
joe rogan
But you know who they watch even more?
The Bill Dance fishing show.
For real.
There's a whole world where those people live in.
I watched it the other day for two hours.
I watched professional bass fishing on TV. You didn't have nothing to do or what?
I had plenty to do.
I'm watching psychology.
eddie bravo
No wonder.
joe rogan
Have you watched Making a Murderer yet?
Yes.
eddie bravo
Oh, fine.
You watched it all?
joe rogan
No, I started it.
eddie bravo
How many have you seen?
joe rogan
Just the first one.
Oh, shit.
And I was like, whoa.
At first, I was like, fuck this guy.
He's guilty.
He's guilty.
The guy's a dirtbag.
He's guilty.
His family doesn't want to admit it.
I see what's going on here.
And then you find out about the other guy, and you go, oh.
And then you find out about how they knew about the other guy, and they ignored the evidence.
brendan schaub
I don't want to spoil it.
eddie bravo
Dude, it gets 10 times crazier.
joe rogan
No, it's pretty fun.
brendan schaub
It lasted two episodes too long for me.
Is there nine?
joe rogan
Okay, spoiler alert.
eddie bravo
That's not a spoiler alert!
Don't listen to him.
ian mccall
You mean that I stopped watching at the right part?
Because I don't remember.
brendan schaub
You're fine.
Nothing else happens.
joe rogan
What were we talking about right before that?
brendan schaub
How about Narcos?
ian mccall
Branding Big Country as a superstar.
eddie bravo
Bass fishing.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, bass fishing people that I watched it for two hours.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I was asking what we had to do.
joe rogan
And then we said psychology.
They catch the fish, they weigh them, and they have like a recording, like a digital thing that they weigh them on so they know exactly how much they weigh, and then they throw them back in the water.
They used to keep them.
I don't know if they still keep them.
Maybe it was just what tournaments that I was watching.
They used to keep them in what they call a live well.
So this tank, this aerated tank in the pool, in the hull of the boat.
They throw the fish in there, and then they'd show them to everybody, and then allegedly let them go.
But that fucking fish has been tortured for hours now.
So now they throw them back immediately.
brendan schaub
And they just keep catching the same fucking fish?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a big problem with fish that have mouth problems and fucking fucked up Yeah, they get hooks, and then they get massive injuries.
But because we don't think they're screwed, it's all good.
Exactly.
Nobody gives a fuck.
Can you imagine if you were catching squirrels with hooks?
unidentified
I was gonna say, no one gives a fuck about bass with hooks in their mouths.
eddie bravo
Save bass mouths.
joe rogan
Imagine if it was like a puppy fishing contest.
Where you threw bones attached to hooks, and you were pulling them up the hill, and the puppies come and run over, and the puppies grab the hooks, and you're trying to get the biggest puppy.
brendan schaub
That makes me sad.
joe rogan
Smash it with a stick.
But a bass, a small bass.
If you watch those guys catch a small bass, that's like a year-old bass, a two-year-old bass.
unidentified
If Disney made a movie about a bass, a cute bass.
eddie bravo
They don't know who gets a There's no people standing for fish rights and shit.
Fish is like, okay, you can eat that shit.
joe rogan
I only like dolphins.
ian mccall
Tuna.
joe rogan
There was an organization called the Lobster Liberation Organization.
I'm not bullshitting.
They'd break into restaurants and seafood places, and they would free the lobsters and send them loose back into the ocean again.
brendan schaub
That's awesome.
ian mccall
I have cockroaches in my garage if you want to get those, too.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
Take them back to Madagascar or wherever the fuck they came from.
eddie bravo
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Isn't that hilarious?
ian mccall
Breed them in your house.
That's fine.
joe rogan
How crazy is that?
brendan schaub
I'd be down for something like that.
joe rogan
But you're getting arrested for a lobster.
eddie bravo
There's people that save goldfish.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But then you get out right away.
joe rogan
No, I don't know.
Well, they have.
That's a problem.
eddie bravo
Come on.
joe rogan
But it's a problem when people take those fish, like goldfish, and they release them in a lake.
Well, all kinds of fish.
Goldfish alone.
You release them in a lake and they're an invasive species.
They fuck with the whole ecosystem.
Asian carp, a lot of that.
There's a lot of different fish that somehow or another through either people releasing them, like they had them, they're like snakeheads, like people who've let snakehead fish.
They'll kill every fish in a fucking lake to save it from snakeheads.
ian mccall
And it'll come after you.
eddie bravo
Nothing wrong with that.
ian mccall
A snakehead will bite you.
It'll climb on land and bite you.
brendan schaub
I don't know what a snakehead is.
joe rogan
They walk across the land to find a new...
brendan schaub
You got a picture of a snakehead for me?
What?
ian mccall
A snakehead.
joe rogan
A snakehead fish is from Africa.
And people used to keep them as pets because they're cool.
What are we talking about?
And what they would do is, these fucking fish, they would get sick of them.
Are they cute?
No.
ian mccall
Pull up a snakehead, Jamie.
joe rogan
They're monsters.
They're dinosaurs.
unidentified
Oh, sick.
joe rogan
And they walk on land.
Well, you don't understand.
ian mccall
They get fucking big, too.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no.
Wait, wait.
I'm going to freak you out.
brendan schaub
That's a barracuda, son.
joe rogan
Jamie, pull-up snakehead in the Congo walks on land in the video.
brendan schaub
Hold up.
Those things walk on, like, in their house?
joe rogan
They walk from one pond to another pond across the ground.
brendan schaub
Those things are awesome.
joe rogan
Like, they come out of the water and they walk.
brendan schaub
They're not very popular, though, huh?
joe rogan
They're monsters.
This is a snakehead in Thailand.
Okay, here it is in Thailand.
unidentified
Peace!
joe rogan
Oh, this is scary.
I don't know if this is...
eddie bravo
The guy has a bandana on.
joe rogan
No, this is not it, Jamie.
We want to see the one in the Congo.
Here it is.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
This is one he caught.
I don't think it's going to show it walking.
Maybe snakehead fish walking.
brendan schaub
Are they dangerous at all?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
eddie bravo
Oh, they're not dangerous?
brendan schaub
Oh, if it's not dangerous, I'll get it.
joe rogan
I mean, they'll probably bite you.
brendan schaub
Nah, I need something to attack people.
joe rogan
But the really big ones, you have to worry about sharks.
eddie bravo
Also in the Congo, remember those spiders that attack in swarms?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
That's different.
They're usually solitary in the States, but in the Congo, they fucking swarm you.
Spiders, giant spiders.
People, humans swarm.
They make these giant animals.
Not people.
joe rogan
There's no people in the Yeah, they catch, like, squirrels and shit.
Spiders do.
ian mccall
I've seen the ones that are big enough to catch birds, but I don't know.
brendan schaub
I love a cute squirrel, though, man.
eddie bravo
What's worse than fucking spiders swarming on you?
joe rogan
Yeah, Jamie, just look for it in the Congo, because this is not it.
It's a BBC documentary in the Congo.
Maybe it's not exactly listed as snakehead.
Maybe I'm saying the wrong name.
But I know snakehead is a similar fish.
It's an invasive species from other countries that just takes over.
brendan schaub
Sounds dope.
Dude, how about they're trying to one-up each other cowboying right now?
joe rogan
They're just walking on the land.
Look at this.
Look at this thing walking on the land.
They're walking until they find another lake.
eddie bravo
Well, unless they're eating people...
joe rogan
But these are little ones?
ian mccall
They'll bite the fuck out of you.
I know that.
brendan schaub
Not step on that fucking thing.
joe rogan
Well, what's crazy in the Congo...
unidentified
Here's the way you find it.
joe rogan
Shoebill bird eats snakehead fish in the Congo.
Shoehill bird eats prehistoric fish.
It's the craziest shit because it's a shoehill?
Shoebill?
Shoebill's five feet tall and has a beak that's about the size of my torso.
This gigantic hatchet growing out of its face.
brendan schaub
Pterodactyl.
joe rogan
And it looks evil as fuck.
That's a shoebill.
Look at that thing.
ian mccall
It's smaller than the ones with the pterobird and shit?
joe rogan
Yeah, smaller than the pterobirds by a couple of feet, but they're still five feet fucking tall.
You don't get a sense of perspective in this photo.
brendan schaub
It looks like a duck on steroids.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you were standing next to it, you would get a sense of perspective.
You would be terrified by that thing.
Because imagine standing next to that thing, and you're only a foot taller than it.
You'd be shit in your pants.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
That thing's monstrous.
eddie bravo
Is that the thing we saw in that Congo?
joe rogan
Exactly.
That's the same documentary.
brendan schaub
It's like ostriches are fucking huge, right?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, but they don't have the creepy eyes that these things have.
brendan schaub
They have small faces, so they don't look dangerous.
joe rogan
Ostriches, they'll fuck you up, though.
brendan schaub
Yeah, don't they kick you or some shit?
joe rogan
Yeah, they kick the shit out of you.
Look at that shit out of you.
brendan schaub
God, dog, that thing is...
That's a fat-ass duck.
eddie bravo
That'll eat babies.
ian mccall
That's every one of my nightmares right there.
A giant bird.
joe rogan
This thing walks through the swamp, and then it's going to jack a shoebill.
I mean, a snakehead.
brendan schaub
Jack us?
ian mccall
That bird's my size.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a big ass bird.
ian mccall
It's the size of me almost.
joe rogan
I think they only weigh like 50 or 60 pounds.
ian mccall
Yeah, I can get down with that bird.
eddie bravo
You wish.
joe rogan
But it's a five foot bird, man.
ian mccall
I'd fucking run.
eddie bravo
Is it really five foot?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, the big ones, they can get five foot.
See if you can find another better.
See if you find a shoebill bird in the Congo.
eddie bravo
Look at that thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, look, it's eating that fish whole.
eddie bravo
It's a little dinosaur.
joe rogan
Powerful main event.
Cowboy versus cowboy.
brendan schaub
Cowboy, cowboy.
joe rogan
About to go down.
brendan schaub
Cowboy on cowboy crime.
joe rogan
This cowboy looks really calm.
brendan schaub
They say he's super relaxed because of the shit he went through in Brazil, so finding him is just fun.
He doesn't get the same nerves.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
brendan schaub
Isn't that interesting?
joe rogan
What did he go through in Brazil?
brendan schaub
I'm not sure.
ian mccall
He grew up really poor on a farm.
Really poor on a farm.
joe rogan
Yeah, he looks super relaxed.
brendan schaub
The whole montage before this was just them trying to out-cowboy each other.
Like, who's more a cowboy?
Do you see it?
joe rogan
This dude looks super.
brendan schaub
Yeah, showed cowboy on a ranch, showed him on a Brazilian ranch.
joe rogan
That's funny.
Well, it's a good move for marketing.
ian mccall
The two best cowboys in the world are American and Brazilian.
brendan schaub
Two cowboys.
There's a lot of cowboys in Brazil.
unidentified
I didn't realize that.
joe rogan
I just, I would like to see him, I want to see a good fighter get a real camp.
You know, I don't like anybody fighting on two weeks notice.
brendan schaub
He's dangerous for Cerrone, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's dangerous.
brendan schaub
Super dangerous.
joe rogan
He's dangerous, period.
Look at this.
Hugging people.
brendan schaub
A guy that's going to come forward on Cerrone.
joe rogan
This motherfucker's taking selfies before he fights.
brendan schaub
Look how happy he is, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you he's got to do some shit.
When this is your pleasure?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
This is going to be fun.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
I can't wait for this.
joe rogan
Relaxed, dancing.
Damn.
He must think this is his time.
Look at him.
He looks so relaxed.
brendan schaub
There's no pressure on him.
joe rogan
Look how relaxed he is.
brendan schaub
Pump those hips.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian mccall
What is the ass?
joe rogan
Bomba?
No.
What is it called?
ian mccall
Ceuta bunda.
joe rogan
Bunda?
That's it?
Eddie, what's the word for butt in Portuguese?
unidentified
Bunda.
ian mccall
You've seen that, right?
You've seen chicks do that, right?
A guy will sit down and grab their legs around them and fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian mccall
No one's seen that.
brendan schaub
I'm not doing that, though.
joe rogan
It's like a Jeff Glover donkey guard.
unidentified
She jumps back at a Jeff Glover guard and just works that ass.
joe rogan
There it is.
brendan schaub
That'll break your nose, son.
joe rogan
Look at this.
He's just...
brendan schaub
Nose to asshole.
joe rogan
And she's jamming, jamming his nose in her asshole.
unidentified
What UFC fight was it when you called Donkey Guard?
ian mccall
It was like years ago.
eddie bravo
It was like eight years ago.
Remember that?
unidentified
Dude, this position is what we call Donkey Guard.
joe rogan
Look at this.
This girl is hurting his face with her ass.
brendan schaub
That's not sexy.
That's cool.
But when she was ramming that nose into that asshole, that ain't for me.
joe rogan
How do you think this relationship ends?
Do you think she feels connected to him after this ride?
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
He 100% got his dick sucked out.
joe rogan
Do you think he's got a chance to fuck her because of this?
eddie bravo
Where is this?
In Mexico?
joe rogan
Somewhere where it's hot.
ian mccall
It's Brazil.
brendan schaub
Somewhere where it's hot.
eddie bravo
So far I don't see anything.
joe rogan
It's really warm out.
They have no AC. Is there something wrong with this?
brendan schaub
Zero AC. Oh, they're singing too.
This is a whole performance.
joe rogan
I guarantee you the song is probably not your favorite.
brendan schaub
That old man's about to blow his fucking neck out.
joe rogan
They're going to fucking bust.
Oh, shit.
See how she spins?
brendan schaub
And boom.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
Shit!
I have a problem with that.
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
It's not for me, bro.
eddie bravo
I would stop the dance.
joe rogan
Is he wearing some religious outfit?
eddie bravo
No way!
ian mccall
Look at that!
joe rogan
Like he's a cleric.
brendan schaub
I thought they were in Brazil and now it looks more like Africa.
joe rogan
This is like Pakistan or something.
ian mccall
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
Might be Dubai.
ian mccall
You think this would happen with that?
joe rogan
He's happy.
ian mccall
Definitely not happen in fucking Africa.
eddie bravo
Oh!
joe rogan
Look at him.
He screams.
eddie bravo
And what's up with the guys that like getting kneed in the balls by chicks?
They pay for that.
brendan schaub
Have you ever watched that shit?
Someone sent me a funny...
Graphic of that the other day.
unidentified
It's horrible.
You know what I mean?
ian mccall
I just got sent in a group message about...
brendan schaub
They want their balls smashed.
ian mccall
It's point of view, so it's a guy sitting there, and he's videotaping his legs open, and he has two midgets in little outfits run up and start kicking him and stomping on the sticking balls.
eddie bravo
How did he not die?
joe rogan
Hey, Eddie, that thing you sent me today, the ultimate sack fighting thing...
That's so crazy.
brendan schaub
What is it?
joe rogan
They did exactly what we came up with.
unidentified
They did it twice.
eddie bravo
Twice.
College Humor did two of our sketches for Man Show.
There must be a writer that worked for the Man Show.
There has to be, because they did extreme sack fighting.
joe rogan
Or maybe they heard us talking about it.
eddie bravo
And the Jesus cross trainer.
They did that one, too.
joe rogan
They did that, too?
eddie bravo
They did that one, too.
joe rogan
Okay, but it is possible that someone came up with it on their own.
It is totally possible.
brendan schaub
Did you guys talk about it on here?
eddie bravo
We've talked about it.
I've talked about it on my podcast.
brendan schaub
Have you talked about it on my podcast?
joe rogan
How long ago?
unidentified
Extreme...
joe rogan
We talked about, I think, on mine, too, way back in the day, I think.
We were talking about different sketches that we did that were ridiculous.
We had to have Bobby Lee and Joey Diaz, and Joey Diaz kept losing because his balls were too big.
eddie bravo
So he became a trainer.
joe rogan
Bobby Lee won.
We were going to give him some fake balls that were that big.
Yeah, Bobby Lee was the master, and everybody would go to visit him.
He was like, he's on an island somewhere, and he'd teach you how to sack fight correctly.
unidentified
That's funny.
joe rogan
He just couldn't touch his nuts.
They were so small.
eddie bravo
The future of MMA. Eventually, state by state, they're going to legalize ball hitting.
joe rogan
When the balls are in play, the game changes.
We had a whole fucking sketch movie.
eddie bravo
They totally ripped us off.
brendan schaub
And then someone made it.
joe rogan
I don't know if they ripped us off.
I am giving them the benefit of the doubt.
That's what I do from now on.
I don't know, man.
We know when people are bullshit artists and rip-off artists.
It always comes to surface.
ian mccall
That thing, the internet, it's kind of a...
brendan schaub
It's going to get you.
joe rogan
But, you know, these guys, it could have easily been that they came up with it on their own, or it could have been like, these guys had great ideas, they didn't even do it, so fuck them.
eddie bravo
And there may have been a podcast where I went through all our sketches that got...
joe rogan
I talked about him and I think once or twice I may have said you know what if someone out there wants to run with it run with it Well you would never get away with it anyway That was never even a thought I'm just saying that that was our shit yeah because if you 12 years If you come up with an idea but you don't do anything about it, you talk about the idea and then someone else does something with it, that's so much different than you having already done the sketch and then someone ripping off the sketch.
ian mccall
True.
joe rogan
Completely.
Meanwhile, this shit's about to go down.
brendan schaub
I'm excited for this fight.
joe rogan
Cowboys.
I'm excited to see, how do you think Donald's going to fight at 170?
brendan schaub
Good, man.
No weight cut.
I think his gas is going to be better.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He's a motherfucker.
It's just, how does Donald feel after that loss, is the X Factor, after getting dismantled by Dos Anjos?
That's a good point.
How's he going to respond?
ian mccall
And he's fighting a bigger person.
When is someone usually taller than him at 55s?
brendan schaub
Never at 55s.
ian mccall
This guy's taller, has a longer reach.
brendan schaub
And loves to stand.
joe rogan
He looks good, though.
ian mccall
Good hands.
brendan schaub
Yes, he looks way better.
joe rogan
Yeah, he looks thick.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Donald's a huge 55er, man.
joe rogan
Well, I think he's had issues in the past, too.
eddie bravo
This is the first time he's got crazy shredded.
joe rogan
He looks good to me, man.
brendan schaub
He looks really good to me.
joe rogan
I mean, it's not crazy shredded.
brendan schaub
It's healthy shredded.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's different.
It's like there's a level of shredded where you go, man, this guy might be a little bit too lean.
eddie bravo
Alan Javon good or not?
We're talking different league.
ian mccall
How would you rate him?
brendan schaub
No, Alan Javon's another league.
eddie bravo
Another level.
ian mccall
And Alan?
brendan schaub
He has a Versace deal for fuck's sake.
joe rogan
Okay, so we got Dada 5000 on one hand.
No, Aki Bono.
Aki Bono on one hand.
And then Prime Cowboy.
Like, who's the leanest guy ever that fought in MMA? The leanest guy ever.
eddie bravo
What do you mean?
The most shredded?
unidentified
The leanest?
joe rogan
The most shredded ever?
eddie bravo
Yeah, most shredded.
Gleason Tebow?
joe rogan
Yeah, probably.
brendan schaub
No.
unidentified
He's close.
eddie bravo
Come on, he'd walk around at 195 and fight at 55. Anthony Johnson at 170. Yeah, you got a point.
joe rogan
You got a point.
That might be it.
Okay, here we go.
Look at this.
Oh!
Looking for the right hand.
brendan schaub
This is what you gotta do to beat Cowboy.
You gotta really turn it on early, man.
Cowboy takes a while to warm up.
joe rogan
But you know what?
Cowboy's a guy that recovers very well from a loss.
eddie bravo
But already we're seeing a big difference in...
joe rogan
Physical strength.
eddie bravo
Yes.
He's on on him.
We're seeing that early.
That's not a fluke.
There's something to say about that.
Unless he gasses out, we're going to see a lot of this.
He puts him against the fence pretty easily.
brendan schaub
I mean, Donald, I'm so used to seeing Donald just a bigger, taller dude.
This is interesting, man.
eddie bravo
Oh, that's a hard knee to the body, dude.
joe rogan
Yo, these are hard knees to the body, man.
You can't take too many of these.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
That looked like it hurt him.
eddie bravo
That looked like a Hoist Gracie knee.
joe rogan
That's what I'm going to call him from now on.
brendan schaub
What's Gracie need?
joe rogan
Oh shit, another knee to the body.
brendan schaub
If Donald gets him going backwards, homeboy's fucked.
Brazilian cowboy's spitting.
joe rogan
He's telegraphing this.
brendan schaub
Come on, Troni.
joe rogan
Look at where his hips are.
unidentified
He does like Bruce Lee Droney's haircut's interesting What?
brendan schaub
Oof.
God, he is winging him.
joe rogan
Yeah, Donald's got to drag this guy into some deeper water, huh?
brendan schaub
Dude, he's just way bigger.
joe rogan
Donald's in shape, though.
Donald's in shape, and this dude's fading.
He's fading a little bit.
eddie bravo
Took a big, deep breath right there.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's fading a little bit.
brendan schaub
Dude, if I'm Brazilian Cowboy, do it, bro.
You only got two rounds max.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what if he goes after him here and gasses himself out with a minute left?
He might not be able to make it.
brendan schaub
You're going to get your ass whooped anyways.
joe rogan
We really have no idea what kind of conditioning he has, right?
eddie bravo
We're just guessing.
brendan schaub
Yeah!
Cowboy!
I like that, son!
eddie bravo
Look at that!
brendan schaub
Cowboy's jiu-jitsu is very underrated, man.
eddie bravo
He's a motherfucker.
Right there, it could be over.
It could be over just right with that.
With that, it could be over.
Just don't remove your head from the ground and inch by inch set that up.
joe rogan
It could be over.
It's so hard to find out when a guy is coming in on two weeks notice.
It's so hard to find out what he had been doing before he got that call.
unidentified
Armbar.
joe rogan
Good control by Cowboy.
eddie bravo
Good mount.
Oh, triangle.
brendan schaub
It's over.
joe rogan
Yeah, Cowboy!
unidentified
It's over.
Yeah, son!
ian mccall
It's over.
eddie bravo
He's got it locked up.
He's tapping.
unidentified
He's tapping.
Oh, yeah!
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
That's a big fucking win, baby.
unidentified
He triangled him.
joe rogan
Oh, my goodness.
Fuck yeah, Cowboy.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
joe rogan
He mounted, triangled him and rolled him over.
eddie bravo
That was some serious jiu-jitsu.
brendan schaub
Nasty jiu-jitsu, man.
I'm telling you, jiu-jitsu's underrated.
joe rogan
Dude, that was some shit.
brendan schaub
That being said, I don't like Cowboy at 170 after seeing that.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
unidentified
You don't?
brendan schaub
No, I don't.
joe rogan
Why not?
brendan schaub
Because I think he got out-muscled.
I think if he fought the top echelon guy...
eddie bravo
He can get stronger.
He can get stronger.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
I think he won.
eddie bravo
This is like...
brendan schaub
He did, for sure.
eddie bravo
But he did, you're right.
He did get thrown around, but I think he could fix that.
joe rogan
Brendan is a glass is half empty sort of fella.
unidentified
No, not at all.
joe rogan
The guy just wins a beautiful fucking triangle victory.
I don't like him at 170. No, he's my boy.
brendan schaub
He's not strong.
eddie bravo
He can't take him down.
He's not strong enough.
Oh, he did take him down.
joe rogan
Strong.
Strong jiu-jitsu.
Strong jiu-jitsu.
Look at this recovery here, too.
I like this, man.
Good stabilization.
Not only that, but he steps right over into the triangle.
That is fucking beautiful, man.
That must be a clamping lockdown of a triangle.
Look at this.
brendan schaub
Super nasty.
joe rogan
Look how he gets it over the ankle nice.
eddie bravo
He tapped early.
Look at that.
joe rogan
He tapped quick.
eddie bravo
And he held it.
joe rogan
He's like, is this good?
brendan schaub
Are we good here?
Is that Mario?
I don't know who it was.
eddie bravo
Dude, that was a quick triangle.
There was no fight.
There was no struggle.
There was a lot of defensive things he could have did.
There's things he could have went to.
He just tapped.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
brendan schaub
Cowboy's such a star.
People love that dude.
He needed to win.
eddie bravo
Man, he's happy.
joe rogan
Yeah, Oliveira seems like a real nice guy.
I would just like to have seen Oliveira with a real camp.
It's like when you see a real talented guy like that, it's nice to come in and step in on two weeks' notice.
brendan schaub
It's a win-win camp.
joe rogan
I would like to see him in a camp with Tyron Woodley's suit.
What a handsome fellow.
brendan schaub
Dude, Woodley on this show, I've never watched him as the analyst.
He's a beast, man.
He's very, very good.
joe rogan
They won't let you on that show anymore.
Is that what I hear?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
ian mccall
Talk a little too much shit.
brendan schaub
Talk a little too much shit, Joe.
joe rogan
Would you want to do it, Ian?
ian mccall
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
You'd be great at that shit.
ian mccall
I can't fight for very much longer with all this shit.
I think.
I don't know.
unidentified
We'll see.
ian mccall
I'm going to keep trying.
Right.
I'm not brain dead yet, but my body sucks.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're a good analyst.
You're very good at breaking down fights and talking about shit.
ian mccall
You're smart, dude.
I would love to do it.
I'd love to do it somewhere.
joe rogan
Why don't you ask for UFC to fucking sneak in there?
ian mccall
I think I have.
joe rogan
Uncle Creepy and they said no?
ian mccall
I'm pretty sure.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
It's tough.
It's a tough rotation, Joe, to get in there.
joe rogan
A lot of guys waiting.
eddie bravo
A lot of guys trying to get in.
joe rogan
Because they should have more than one of those fucking things.
They only have one.
brendan schaub
What do you mean they only have one?
joe rogan
They should have a gang of these UFC shows.
brendan schaub
Shows?
joe rogan
With a bunch of different people running them.
Just like podcasts.
Let people figure out what they like.
You can have a hundred of those fucking things.
brendan schaub
Well, Ian, do you have a podcast?
ian mccall
No, not really.
brendan schaub
Stop waiting for a fox to pull their head out of their ass and get your own shit going.
joe rogan
You should totally do a podcast, and if you did a podcast like Uncle Creepy's MMA picks, just a week of the fights.
eddie bravo
Creepy MMA. That's it.
joe rogan
You could get it ready for the week of the fights, and you could talk mad shit, you could suck on your vaporizer, you could do it all on YouTube.
ian mccall
Where's that thing at?
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Especially if you really feel like your body's telling you, hey, this is the last go-around.
Get ready for something new, and that's a good way to do it.
And that way, you could use the vape pen, and you're like, what are you going to do?
Are you going to test me?
What are you going to do?
Tell me I can't do this anymore?
I'm not doing it anymore anyway.
ian mccall
I'll do something.
I'll figure it out.
joe rogan
Because I'm just saying that doing it through Fox, you've got to get sanctioned if you're going to do it through a production company or any of those.
And it's hard.
brendan schaub
A bunch of steps, yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard.
Big Brown's been through the hoops.
It's hard.
ian mccall
You know what it is?
I've had a lot of people promise me they're going to help me do it and help me figure it out because I'm kind of retarded.
brendan schaub
With the podcast?
ian mccall
With podcasts and all that stuff and then it's just never happened and I guess I'm too lazy on my own so I haven't done it.
That's a problem.
eddie bravo
You can't be lazy.
You've got to make shit happen.
ian mccall
Well, I mean, now it's getting to the point where I have to.
I don't have a choice.
eddie bravo
You've got to make it happen, man.
You can do it.
You've got a great personality.
You talk a lot of shit.
You've been in the cage.
brendan schaub
A lot of experience.
eddie bravo
You've been in super fucking crazy matches.
brendan schaub
Dude, personality.
eddie bravo
You got it.
brendan schaub
Dude, talk to Boy McCarty.
Unless you got another...
eddie bravo
You got another idea.
brendan schaub
I mean, if you got something else that you're thinking, that's perfect for you.
joe rogan
But you're a great personality, and outside of MMA, you have great opinions on all kinds of shit.
Like, you could talk shit about everything.
You know, and Brendan, and Brian, and I, and Eddie, and all of us have proven, you don't have to be an expert in things to talk about them.
We've talked about everything from fucking genetics to rocket travel.
eddie bravo
9-11 inside job?
9-11 inside job or not?
ian mccall
Do I want an inside job?
eddie bravo
No, no.
9-11, inside job or not?
joe rogan
Don't do it.
eddie bravo
That's a no.
ian mccall
I don't know, man.
Don't answer that.
See?
brendan schaub
You're already smart.
joe rogan
Get Eddie another beer.
eddie bravo
Let's go down the rabbit hole.
Real quick.
unidentified
Real quick.
joe rogan
Chemtrails, yes or no.
Vaccines, a killer or an aide?
eddie bravo
How many towers went down on 9-11?
joe rogan
Two or three.
brendan schaub
We don't want to go down here, brother.
ian mccall
Three, right?
eddie bravo
No, he knows.
ian mccall
My brother's crazy like you are, so I hear some of this stuff.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Donald Cerrone, very happy.
eddie bravo
The fact that he knows that three towers went down means that you know your shit.
joe rogan
Kind of everybody knows.
eddie bravo
No, most people don't know.
They'll say two.
Most people don't know.
Most people do not know three towers went down.
joe rogan
Look at Jamie trying to save the show by turning up Donald's interview.
eddie bravo
Way to go in the background Starts showing towers falling Is there a button that you press Underneath the tape That's what he does He puts chemtrails on the background That's how he gets you That's Southwest right there Cowboy's such a fucking beast He took a fight against me on short notice.
joe rogan
That's a strong, strong try.
eddie bravo
Who's he supposed to fight?
brendan schaub
You're supposed to fight the dirty bird.
joe rogan
Tim Means.
brendan schaub
Tim Means.
Test positive.
joe rogan
Tim Means to this day denies he took anything wrong.
He said he took a supplement.
brendan schaub
Everyone does that though, you know?
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
eddie bravo
Has anybody ever said, okay, fuck, I was trying to get yolk, yo.
joe rogan
Here's what I was going to say.
eddie bravo
I regret it.
joe rogan
Here's what I was going to say.
The USADA people tell us that everything, all that shit that you're buying at fucking GNC, everything is suspect.
They have a list on the USADA page where you should go.
Anybody that's thinking about competing in anything where you get tested, go to that list.
It's insane how big it is.
brendan schaub
Well, if you're buying testosterone boosters from GNC, yeah, you're an idiot.
Dude, I've been taking supplements all my life.
I've been tested all my life.
unidentified
Never once.
joe rogan
But you haven't been tested under the USADA guidelines.
ian mccall
NCAA? I got tested the other day.
brendan schaub
I mean, like a motherfucker.
ian mccall
The only thing I've been taking is Onnit stuff.
And I was doing Daniele Bolelli's podcast.
eddie bravo
They want to outlaw Onnit, by the way.
ian mccall
They called me and they're like, hey, where are you?
In LA? Like, well, we went by your house.
You're not there.
I'm like, yeah, I'm in LA. Went by your gym.
You're not there.
I'm like, yes, I'm in LA. Here's my address.
Meet me here.
So after...
joe rogan
So you have to drop whatever you're doing.
What if you had tickets to the most awesome show?
Like you're going to go to a play or something like that with your lady?
How long does it take to do this?
ian mccall
Once they contact you, it has to be within an hour.
So they drove.
I was literally parking.
joe rogan
That's so annoying.
ian mccall
I know.
joe rogan
So why don't you dickholes meet me at like 6 o'clock in the morning when I'm waking up?
brendan schaub
If you don't make it happen, positive test.
Or you get three strikes, right?
joe rogan
That happened to Cowboy.
Cowboy was in fucking Vegas for the UFC. They showed up as a ranch.
He's like, where are you at?
He's like, I'm in Vegas.
You have to tell us, I'm working for the UFC. I'm in Vegas.
And they gave him a failure to notify...
Oh, fuck off.
brendan schaub
Bunch of squares, man.
ian mccall
I got one of those for not filling out my...
Am I going to get in trouble for even talking about this?
I don't care.
We'll figure it out.
But for not filling out my whereabouts in time.
And they sent me a letter, and I was like, Dad, look.
It's like the fucking principal sent me a letter.
joe rogan
Well, you know, it all is with good intentions.
They're trying to catch more people.
ian mccall
I think it's good, but you know.
joe rogan
They're catching a lot of people.
ian mccall
Which is pretty fucking funny.
joe rogan
Catch a lot of people.
brendan schaub
If it was up to you, a lot of fighters aren't fighting the same.
eddie bravo
If it was up to you, would you legalize PEDs?
If it was up to you.
ian mccall
That's a slippery slope.
brendan schaub
That's a tough fucking slope.
eddie bravo
I mean, it was legal in Pride.
Look what happened there.
What's going to happen?
Well, Pride would happen.
brendan schaub
It's tough, man.
eddie bravo
What do you think, Joe?
brendan schaub
It won't be mainstream if you do that.
joe rogan
Here's a problem.
What we're trying to do is stop progress.
The reason why steroids are awesome is because they work really good at changing your body, making you perform better.
Ultimately, when we're watching fighting, what are we trying to see?
We're trying to see people perform at their best.
So we're keeping them from the knowledge that we're currently aware of.
What are we currently aware of when it comes to performing handsome drugs?
If you use them, your body will work better.
Your body will be stronger, it'll move quicker, you have more endurance, you'll be able to perform tasks with much more veracity and intensity for longer periods of time.
So how come they can't do it?
Because using that knowledge right now is forbidden.
But it's going to come a point in time, whether it's a year from now or 20 years from now or 30 years from now, where they're going to have some undeniable shit that everybody's taking.
That people are just normally taking because it keeps you from getting sick.
It changes the way your body works.
A regular person's body looks like Yoel Romero's body.
We're all going to take it.
brendan schaub
Everyone's going to take it.
Athletes would be taken.
joe rogan
Right, but then it's going to get real super weird.
It's like, well, what happened all those years when you couldn't take it or you had a high that you were taking it?
Because now they're going to have stuff that makes you...
There's not going to be people anymore.
We're going to come a time when 30 or 40 years where genetic engineering has reached a point where we're engineering human beings.
brendan schaub
Nah, I don't want to be around that.
joe rogan
You're going to have a designer.
Why?
It's going to be awesome.
I'm going to be the Hulk.
Fuck off.
I'm going to jump over buildings.
Joe, you're going to be 110. We're all going to be 110. But you're going to be 110 with the science that comes from surviving till then.
They say that if you can live today, if you're like a 30-year-old guy today, and you could live to be 50, you could probably live to be 200. Fuck off, for reals.
unidentified
Yes, for reals.
brendan schaub
That's the best news I've heard all day.
joe rogan
They're talking about, within our lifetime, some groundbreaking, life-changing shit in life extension and how long you can live and how healthy you can be.
brendan schaub
That's awesome, man.
joe rogan
That Dr. Peter Welling, whatever his name is, the Regenicene doctor, they're that close to some new thing they're going to do with collagen.
I don't know how it works, but apparently the breakthrough, if they can prove what they believe they can prove and do what they think they can do, they're going to be able to regenerate collagen in people.
Like what makes someone an old person is your collagen sort of falls apart.
Your face gets all droopy.
You lose the elasticity.
Well, they're going to be able to regenerate that.
brendan schaub
How much is that shit going to cost before it goes through masses?
joe rogan
Why is the glass half full with this fucking guy?
brendan schaub
Hey, Joe, half full or am I a realist?
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
Half full is actually meaning...
brendan schaub
Oh, gotcha.
I thought you called me a hater again.
Okay, gotcha.
joe rogan
I was joking.
brendan schaub
Gotcha.
joe rogan
I actually said it wrong.
I meant to say half empty.
But that is what you're doing.
He's trying to help you, Brandon.
You're gonna you're gonna have to accept science Brandon Chubb Say if you were a kid if you were a kid and you got polio, you know back in the day it was over And then they had to come up with the vaccines and then all of a sudden, no polio.
I mean, this thing about all the different things that they figured out today.
You used to break your leg three, four hundred years ago.
You're fucked!
Now you break your leg, they fucking screw some plates in that bitch, stitch you all up, and you're good to go.
I mean, Uncle Creepy's had how many fucking surgeries?
Think about that.
All the stuff that you had done to you, if you lived 500 years ago, you'd be a dead man.
ian mccall
I'd be fucked, yeah.
joe rogan
You'd be dead.
And I would be too, and you'd be all fucked up, and you would be fucked up, because you've had hernia surgery.
eddie bravo
I don't know about that.
I think I'd be alive.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'd be fine, but you'd have big holes where you're...
eddie bravo
But I got hernias for screaming and yelling, and I wouldn't be screaming and yelling in 17 AD. You might.
joe rogan
You would definitely be screaming and yelling, Don't eat me!
You'd be running for these fucking zombie hordes.
But my point is that...
These guys are going to keep innovating.
Every new invention opens the door for other new inventions.
Every new technology opens the door for a whole branch of new technologies that are going to come from it.
And so they're on their way to figuring out how to regenerate tissue, the stem cell shit that they're doing today.
You know, I mean, they're doing some really insane...
Boss Rootin was telling me about how they shot stem cells in them intravenously.
ian mccall
That's the day with me.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Really?
ian mccall
Intervenous stem cell and then spot injection.
eddie bravo
Where do they get the stem cells?
unidentified
Are you sure it wasn't PRP? I was both.
joe rogan
No.
ian mccall
But I had both of them done.
joe rogan
But stem cells is stem cells.
They are doing stem cells now.
The one that I did in Vegas was from a woman's placenta from young women that gets a Syrian section to take the placenta and they converted stem cells.
When they did it to you, what did it feel like when they shot it intravenously?
ian mccall
I didn't feel anything.
joe rogan
Nothing?
ian mccall
I was sitting there and, you know, we got it done.
eddie bravo
Did it work?
Did you feel, like, amazing?
ian mccall
Well, I mean, it's all here, but my shoulder is healed up.
This arm's still smaller than this one.
brendan schaub
But it just keeps coming out of socket?
ian mccall
No, no, no, no, no.
I had torn all four of those parts, you know?
And now this thing just popped.
I felt the pop down here in, like, the muscle tendon tissue.
brendan schaub
Oh, so it had nothing to do with the...
ian mccall
Well, I tore down here a little bit when I tore my shoulder, and now this is kind of where it popped.
joe rogan
So it tore again, so there's issues with the whole chain.
ian mccall
Yeah, just the whole chain.
I've been fighting with one arm for one hand at least for a couple years now.
brendan schaub
Doing work, though.
ian mccall
One arm.
Punching people with this thing sucks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
God damn, you can't make a fist either?
joe rogan
Yeah, he can't make a fist, no.
Or the one finger.
eddie bravo
That's incredible.
brendan schaub
You can fire up that podcast.
joe rogan
You've had that operated on a few times, right?
unidentified
What?
ian mccall
Two and a half times.
eddie bravo
You better get on that.
Let's go and fire that podcast up, son.
ian mccall
Who wants to start a podcast?
But yeah, I've had my hand broken twice, three operations, and then one bad MRSA infection.
That was fun.
joe rogan
MRSA's scary shit, huh?
brendan schaub
Super scary.
ian mccall
Having MRSA, because I ended up in Brazil with a blood infection.
I don't know if it was MRSA or not, but it was in my blood.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
ian mccall
I had this infection.
joe rogan
In Brazil?
ian mccall
Remember when I went to fight Lineker the first time and I made Wayans?
joe rogan
That's what happened?
ian mccall
I walked in the back and I took one bite of fruit and then just...
And you know Isabella?
joe rogan
Isabella?
ian mccall
Yeah, the girl that runs the shows down there.
joe rogan
Probably know of our face.
ian mccall
She was just like, everyone get out.
Everyone out.
And they just hooked me up with IVs.
joe rogan
So what kind of blood infection was it, did they say?
ian mccall
I didn't ask.
eddie bravo
How about Denny's knee?
Nobody knew.
Denny, he did the last EBI, EBI 5. He looked good, too.
He looked good, but he didn't train at all for that.
Nobody knew.
No, he wasn't going to do it.
He had MRSA inside his knee the whole training camp.
joe rogan
Yeah, I didn't tell people who it was, but I put the picture of his knee up on my Instagram.
Put it, see if you can find it, Jamie.
It's from a few months ago.
eddie bravo
Yeah, he was right in the middle of EBI 5 training camp, and I gave him, I said, you know what, I'm not going to pull you.
And he goes, let's wait until two weeks before the show and we'll see where we're at.
And that two week mark, that's when he started, he was able to roll light.
brendan schaub
So we're like, you want to go for it?
eddie bravo
There was so many times where it was 100% that he was out, but I wouldn't, I just said, let's wait, let's see what happens.
Those fucking pictures of his knee, no one knew who the fuck that was.
joe rogan
No, I didn't say who it was.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
I put the pictures up on Instagram because I wanted to alert people to the dangers of staph infection.
Because a lot of jujitsu places, they don't tell people about staph.
And so you get like a bump on your knee and you don't know what the fuck it is.
And then it gets worse and then you ignore it.
And then it gets to the point where it's systemic.
brendan schaub
If you think you have a pimple or a spider bite and you keep itching something and it keeps getting bigger and bigger, you might have staph.
eddie bravo
You might have MRSA. If you think there was a spider bite on you, on your leg or your arm, or a pimple that just got infected, run to the hospital.
brendan schaub
That's what I thought.
eddie bravo
Denny could have died, man.
brendan schaub
I thought it was a spider bite in my armpit.
I was wrestling and...
I sent a picture of my coaches, a big ass thing.
I go, hey man, I think I got a spider bite.
And he goes, have you been to fucking Africa lately?
What spider would do that?
That's staph.
It was like huge, two white bubbles out of my armpit.
ian mccall
Nasty, man.
eddie bravo
Where'd you go, Africa?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Where the fuck you been, Africa?
ian mccall
The first time I had it was in my knee.
Fucking a decade ago.
Right when Mercer first came out.
And Mike Guymon had it.
And he goes, hey, get to the hospital.
brendan schaub
God damn.
ian mccall
There's something fucking wrong with you.
eddie bravo
That's Denny's knee.
That was like...
Three weeks before EBI. What a badass.
joe rogan
He did it.
He did it.
I just had to put that up there.
eddie bravo
That's Denny Procopo's knee.
brendan schaub
He's such a nice guy too, man.
eddie bravo
He was in the hospital for a week.
He was in the hospital for a week.
They had a suction machine on his knee all day, every day.
A machine that sucked shit out of his knee.
brendan schaub
That's a bummer.
joe rogan
I think Joe Riggs went down from a broken arm.
unidentified
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, he went down and immediately grabbed his arm when he went down.
brendan schaub
He tried blocking the knee with his forearm?
joe rogan
Yeah, he blocked those ruthless, Kamosi knees.
I think he might have broken his arm.
brendan schaub
Good for Kamosi, man.
joe rogan
Good for him.
eddie bravo
Kenny's back!
brendan schaub
First time Kenny's back, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that whole situation.
I'm glad he didn't completely lose his job, because it's not like Kenny doesn't know a lot about MMA. But you've got to give credit where credit's deserved.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he can't do that.
joe rogan
And now he'll know, and he'll never do it again, you know?
I'm a fan of a guy getting a second chance.
Four, five, six.
Oh my god, six hard, full power hits.
eddie bravo
That's how many times Hoyce hit Ken Shamrock.
Six hits.
And the side of the face.
joe rogan
Bah, bah, bah!
I think, first of all, Ken needs a fucking diamond MMA cup.
You know, he needs one of them compression cups.
I wish we had gotten them.
eddie bravo
And you know when they say wrestlers, no matter what the strategy is, like if a wrestler wants to stand, you know, his strategy is to stand in bag.
People say that when the chaos sets in, wrestlers revert to their wrestling, and in the chaos, they're going to shoot.
They're going to shoot, right?
I think, I swear, I think Ken reverts to pro wrestling or something.
It's just how many times against the soccer robber fight, he goes down, he's complaining, he's always complaining.
There's always some kind of complaint at the end.
That's like wrestling and shit.
To me, isn't that what they do in pro wrestling?
joe rogan
Wow, yeah.
eddie bravo
It's like he's reverting to that act.
joe rogan
He's like a showman.
eddie bravo
Yeah, he's reverting to that showmanism.
brendan schaub
Because I've seen guys get kicked in the nuts horribly and they didn't, you know what I'm saying?
unidentified
I'm not saying he purposely stopped, but that delay was interesting.
joe rogan
Do you think it's possible that he got hit in the nuts and he's like, this is my way out?
brendan schaub
Yes.
I'm not saying that happened, but that's an option.
joe rogan
I didn't think that at all.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying I think that.
unidentified
What did you think?
joe rogan
I thought, well, I had to see the replay to see that he got kicked in the nuts because Jimmy Smith seemed to be incredulous at first.
He was saying that it was a shot to the head and that maybe Ken had gotten knocked out maybe and thought he got hit in the nuts or something.
But when they showed it again, they went one step before.
You see it's clear.
It definitely goes right to the nuts.
And the way he's adjusting it...
That sounds to me like you didn't have a good cup, you know?
If you have a Thai steel cup, or if you have a real good, like a Diamond MMA compression insurance cup, it wouldn't affect you that bad.
Because it wasn't like Melvin Manhoof was needing him.
eddie bravo
It wasn't that low.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
eddie bravo
Exactly.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
I'm just saying I've seen worse nut shots where guys are like, damn, bro.
I'm like, hold up.
Back, hold up.
And then you get five minutes.
He's 52. He's 50. Those nuts hang low.
It might have been real bad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying that.
eddie bravo
What about the delay, though?
unidentified
What about the delay, though?
ian mccall
What about the delay?
They were actually under the cuff.
eddie bravo
Have we ever seen a delay like that?
joe rogan
They were hanging on the outside.
That's what I'm thinking.
eddie bravo
Have we ever seen a delay like that, though?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
eddie bravo
A guy get in the balls, and then there's a delay.
unidentified
There's a delay.
brendan schaub
There's always a delay.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
There's always a delay.
eddie bravo
Okay, so that wasn't odd.
See, I thought that was odd, but if you don't think that was odd, I believe you guys.
You guys are the encyclopedia.
ian mccall
Why is that?
joe rogan
The delay is automatic.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why is that?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
The brain's like, ah, fuck.
eddie bravo
But in MMA, though, in MMA, when a guy gets hit in the balls and there's a break, it's the hit in the balls and he goes, boom, in the break.
There's never a hit in the balls.
unidentified
Wait a while.
You know what?
joe rogan
That's the longest delay I've ever seen.
eddie bravo
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Eddie has a good point.
Watch it again.
We never see that in MMA. Well, when you watch it again, let's take a look at it again, because it's kind of a crazy...
brendan schaub
The delay is long.
eddie bravo
Yeah, we never see that.
You get hit in the balls and the guy goes, okay, fall!
brendan schaub
Joe has a good point.
We've never seen a 50-year-old get hit in the nuts, though.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
And they're exchanging shots.
eddie bravo
Okay, there was a nut shot right there.
joe rogan
And Hoist hit him good on the chin, though.
The one on the chin was good.
The takedown's good.
Hammer fist is good.
eddie bravo
Oh, wait a minute.
Now, from that angle, maybe he was holding his balls.
joe rogan
He was definitely holding his balls.
eddie bravo
He was holding his balls.
joe rogan
But that's a legit knockdown.
The knee to the face is legit.
The knee is before...
See, this is what you're talking about.
This seems kind of...
Acted out.
eddie bravo
Wait a minute.
Okay, ball shot.
joe rogan
But watch this right to the chin.
brendan schaub
Look how long it takes.
eddie bravo
Okay, we need to see the whole thing.
joe rogan
They didn't show the knee to the chin.
Back it up again, Jamie.
eddie bravo
When he did take him down, now that I see, it did look like he was complaining about the balls.
Once the fight got to the ground.
joe rogan
Go way back, Jamie.
eddie bravo
I'm starting to look at things differently now.
ian mccall
If you know it's going to be over, you're going to try and sell it.
joe rogan
But watch it here.
eddie bravo
But why would he think it was over just because it got taken down?
joe rogan
Here, we're going to watch the whole fight.
Here it goes.
eddie bravo
Okay, where's the ball shot?
brendan schaub
Right there.
joe rogan
Boom.
brendan schaub
Right there.
eddie bravo
That was it.
joe rogan
That was it.
brendan schaub
Look how long it is.
joe rogan
That's the one that landed the balls, and that's the one on the chin.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
The right knee.
eddie bravo
Is he holding his balls?
Is he hurt right there?
joe rogan
Yes, he's holding his balls.
eddie bravo
But was it from the face shot?
joe rogan
Well, he definitely got dropped from a hard knee to the face.
brendan schaub
Those are some solid shots, though.
In the nuts and face.
joe rogan
But he did yell and say, you hit me in the balls.
eddie bravo
There should be a rematch, then.
unidentified
Oh no, we don't need to do that.
eddie bravo
There's enough controversy in this to have an immediate rematch.
joe rogan
Or a GoFundMe, where everybody donates a dollar to make sure Bellator never does this again.
ian mccall
I'll text Rich Cho tonight after this.
joe rogan
And Ken, he sort of recovered his composure.
eddie bravo
I have nothing against 50-year-old fighting.
You guys have something against that?
What's wrong with a guy that's 55 fighting?
brendan schaub
I don't enjoy it.
joe rogan
As long as they're both 50, I don't have a problem with it.
ian mccall
Who cares?
unidentified
I don't enjoy it.
joe rogan
As long as they're both the same age where you know you're not dealing with one guy.
eddie bravo
There's badass 55-year-olds out there.
Chuck Norris at 55 was the shit.
brendan schaub
I'm not watching it.
joe rogan
You don't want to see Chuck Norris at 55 fight in Rumble.
You know what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
I don't see 55-year-olds fight, man.
It's not my cup of tea.
eddie bravo
And why not?
joe rogan
It's very reasonable.
unidentified
Why not?
joe rogan
Very reasonable.
brendan schaub
Especially two legends.
I like to remember them as the legends.
joe rogan
I don't like seeing six-year-old fights either.
brendan schaub
No, me neither, bro.
What about an eight-year-old?
joe rogan
Six-year-old Taekwondo kids head-kicking each other.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I don't see that.
joe rogan
That counts.
unidentified
I don't see that.
ian mccall
Yeah.
I run the kids' program at Oyama's.
brendan schaub
Yeah?
ian mccall
I don't let them spar.
brendan schaub
Like, I don't want to see Larry Bird.
joe rogan
Do you let them light spar?
Do they go through the movements?
ian mccall
Yeah, to the body.
They kind of touch.
I let them play like Taekwondo kids.
They just touch.
brendan schaub
Makes sense.
joe rogan
But Tyrone Woodley, what a strong beard game.
eddie bravo
No respect for the internal organs.
joe rogan
He's in a weird spot, huh?
Woodley's in a weird spot.
He deserves a title shot, sort of, but no one wants to see it.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy outshined him.
joe rogan
Oh my god, did he?
brendan schaub
So now everyone's demanding Wonderboy, and the way the UFC works, but I think Woodley's still getting the title shot.
joe rogan
Is he?
brendan schaub
Well, if it's going to go Rory and...
joe rogan
It might not.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying it is, but let's say they do Rory vs.
Wonderboy, Woodley would have to get the title shot.
joe rogan
Yes.
Or, dun-dun-dun-dun-dun, Conor wins quick against Dos Anjos and says, Robbie Loder, if you've got any fucking courage.
brendan schaub
Oh, he trumps all.
He trumps all.
unidentified
He trumps all.
brendan schaub
Then that's the fight.
Then we're all fucked, because that's the fight.
joe rogan
If he beats Dos Anjos and challenges Lawler, the world ends.
No one watches anything.
Everything goes down.
unidentified
Except for Conor.
joe rogan
Every show on television says, we're just going to take the night off.
There's no need for anything other than this.
We'll throw some children's shows on Nickelodeon.
Where would they have it?
Oh, they'd have to have it on the moon.
ian mccall
Crow Park?
unidentified
Richard Branson would be shuttling motherfuckers up to the moon.
Every channel would have reruns on Killigan's Island.
brendan schaub
So if he beat Dos Anjos and then he beats Robbie Lawler, is he the greatest fighter of all time?
joe rogan
He's the greatest ever.
If he beats Dos Anjos, he's in the running to be the greatest ever.
ian mccall
Of course.
joe rogan
He's in the running.
Look, I say the greatest ever a little bit too liberally.
I'll be honest.
I know I do.
But it's tough to find a guy who's even close to as exciting in what he's attempting to accomplish.
It's easy when you go back after the dust has settled and say, well, you've got to look at Fedor like Fedor was the greatest ever.
Yes, he was one of the greatest ever, for sure.
At that time, for sure.
I think Anderson, if I look at movements and what he's doing, I kind of give the edge to Anderson, but I can see the argument.
But if Conor can beat Dos Anjos and he starches him...
I don't see any argument.
brendan schaub
Especially with the level the game's at right now.
eddie bravo
Especially since we've already seen Fedor go down and get knocked the fuck out a few times.
Same thing with Anderson.
We've already seen them go down.
We haven't seen Conor go down, so you've got to give the edge to Conor so far.
joe rogan
Sort of, but we haven't seen Conor fight the kind of guys that Fedor fought in his prime, walked down Crow Cop, remember that?
You know, the Randleman one.
brendan schaub
Again, one-dimensional guys.
A lot of one-dimensional guys.
Conor's fighting the best of the best, and they're all good at everything.
ian mccall
It was just a different time back then.
brendan schaub
No, it's not their fault.
I'm just saying, if Conor were to win three belts, he's by far the best.
ian mccall
Oh, hands down.
eddie bravo
That's like Mackenzie Dern versus Paige Van Zandt right there.
joe rogan
Well, it's a guy who really didn't...
We're looking at Cody Garbrandt, and what's the guy's name?
Taquino?
eddie bravo
Augusto Mendez.
joe rogan
He just doesn't have the stand-up to stand with a vicious, nasty boxer.
brendan schaub
For a long time, yeah.
joe rogan
Garbrandt can crack.
He's got really good timing.
He's real confident with his striking, and he's just out showing up.
brendan schaub
What do you guys think of Anderson Silva-Bisby?
Is that next week?
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
Who's in town?
joe rogan
I'm out of town, unfortunately.
brendan schaub
Son of a bitch.
ian mccall
I'll be here.
brendan schaub
I'm out of town.
How dare you have another life?
joe rogan
I so wish I didn't.
eddie bravo
What day is that?
unidentified
Saturday?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's an interesting fight, though, at this point in Anderson's life.
Because, you know...
ian mccall
What do you think's gonna happen, though?
brendan schaub
Depends what Anderson comes.
joe rogan
It depends on how much Bisping can get in his head.
Bisping talks mad shit.
He's already been mocking him about Viagra and all that.
That's not gonna work, I don't think.
I don't know.
Look, Anderson had a hard time pulling the trigger against Nick Diaz.
brendan schaub
I think Bisping beats him.
Do you really?
In a decision.
unidentified
Wow.
ian mccall
And he started crying after.
He broke down crying after.
And then with all this shit that's gone on, I mean...
brendan schaub
You know what the X factor is here?
Fucking Bisping's left eye.
And against Southpaw's, he gets fucking kicks.
joe rogan
It's his right eye.
brendan schaub
It's his right eye, sorry.
And against Southpaw's, he eats fucking left kicks and left hands.
joe rogan
That could be a factor for sure.
brendan schaub
Huge factor.
joe rogan
You know, another factor could be he's fighting in England.
unidentified
Oh.
brendan schaub
He's never lost in England.
joe rogan
Dude, he's an animal in England.
They fucking love him.
There's very few places where he goes where he gets that kind of round of applause.
When he goes to America, he gets booed all the time.
He's never been a fan favorite here.
No, but in England, man, I've called his fights in Manchester.
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
That's his shit, son.
joe rogan
When he gets out there, man, they go fucking bananas.
brendan schaub
It's a good fight.
joe rogan
I think Bisping wins, though.
They go bananas.
Look, you gotta give that guy his props because Mike Bisping is fucking...
He is lasting.
brendan schaub
Dude, he's fought everybody.
He's only lost a few guys.
And most are PD users.
joe rogan
And he doesn't lose his enthusiasm.
eddie bravo
He keeps getting better and better, little by little, each fight.
And his mental toughness.
Unbelievable.
brendan schaub
I've never trained with anyone like him.
eddie bravo
When he fights, he says the best shit.
joe rogan
In what way?
brendan schaub
When he drills, he's going full speed, drilling, boom, just nonstop, moving, nonstop.
Crazy cardio.
joe rogan
His cardio is resting heart rate.
It's 34 beats a minute.
brendan schaub
Dude, he's like a hummingbird.
I've never seen anything like it.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
brendan schaub
Wearing guys out just drilling.
joe rogan
So what do you think it is that kept him from beating all the best guys?
brendan schaub
There's just something.
It's that it factor.
eddie bravo
Knockout power.
brendan schaub
He doesn't have any knockout power.
He's good at everything, but he's not great at anything.
joe rogan
Jason Perillo told me he hits hard.
He said he holds the pad for him.
He goes, don't let anybody tell you this guy doesn't hit hard.
brendan schaub
Well, no, that's great.
His coach said that.
I'm going based off his 30 fights.
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
The guys he stopped, he stopped like Kung Lee from like a barrage of shots.
brendan schaub
Kung Lee stopped fucking...
joe rogan
Jorge Rivera.
brendan schaub
Yes, Jorge.
Jason Miller.
Yes.
Like straight KO power.
joe rogan
No.
No.
brendan schaub
There's just something there.
joe rogan
Not that kind of fighter.
Different kind of fighter.
brendan schaub
Just a great middleweight, though, man.
You don't want to fight that guy.
He's beat some of the best.
He's lost some of the best.
joe rogan
He's an animal.
That's one of the reasons why it was so impressive that Rockhold handled him.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
One of the very few one-armed guillotines ever in the UFC, too.
brendan schaub
Think what set it up.
ian mccall
That kick.
brendan schaub
Huge.
That head kick.
joe rogan
His left side is very powerful.
And he's so long that you have to kind of stay in his kicking range in order to try to close the distance and get to punching range.
And that left kick is so powerful.
You don't want to hold pads for Rockhold when he's throwing that left kick.
brendan schaub
If I'm Anderson Silva, though, man, that's what I'm southpaw and I'm fucking attacking that right eye.
joe rogan
Talk to Javier Mendez about holding pads for Rockhold.
ian mccall
It's gotta be horrible.
joe rogan
Oh my god, you ever see videos of him kicking the pads?
He's terrifying.
See if you can find Luke Rockhold kicking the tie pads.
Dude, he has so much length and torque.
I think the scariest guy I ever saw kick the pads is Manhoof.
Manhoof to this day is the scariest guy.
brendan schaub
Pedro Izzo?
joe rogan
Well, Pedro Izzo hits a bag.
I've seen him hit a bag really hard, but Manhoof is way faster, more explosive.
Let me check Rockhold out.
Give me some volume on this.
Some fucking power in that leg, son.
He walks you down and slams that fucking thing in over and over again.
Rockhold both kicks hard, man.
He kicks very hard.
ian mccall
I got to watch Pedro, Peter Ayurts, and Marco Huas.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
Wait, is that Rockhold at the Mayweather gym next?
Is that what that said?
Put that up.
Let me see that.
ian mccall
At Marco's gym in Laguna Niguel fucking over a decade ago.
And just seeing these fucking monsters, I was like a little kid like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Just doing work.
How genius is the viral aspect of these YouTube videos where one will show you the next one in the little play thing.
It starts spinning.
Like, why don't you stick around?
brendan schaub
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
You think that's cool?
brendan schaub
Check this out.
joe rogan
They have it queued up for you.
brendan schaub
That's brilliant.
eddie bravo
YouTube rules.
joe rogan
Look how Rockhold is fighting with Barefoot here.
brendan schaub
Smart.
eddie bravo
Do you ever go on YouTube and just say, I don't have nothing to watch, but I'm gonna go on YouTube and find something?
Do you ever do that?
joe rogan
He's in Mayweather's Gym.
eddie bravo
All the fucking time.
joe rogan
He's in Mayweather's Gym.
eddie bravo
I go with their suggestions.
unidentified
I go to my homepage and they have all the shit suggested and I'm like, let's watch some of this shit.
eddie bravo
Very entertaining.
joe rogan
Rockhold's showing some fairly decent boxing.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
ian mccall
Those guys get so much power out of their shoes, too.
Their shoes are so flat and strong.
joe rogan
The grim.
Yeah.
It definitely helps.
brendan schaub
It's not smart to go with shoes all the time.
ian mccall
Ooh, it's sneaky.
joe rogan
Sneaky shoes.
eddie bravo
You've got to go with what you're going to fight.
You've got to go.
brendan schaub
Yes, I agree.
eddie bravo
Same thing, because side control with wrestling shoes is death.
unidentified
Death.
eddie bravo
Oh, man.
Dude, you could just drive into them.
You could weigh 500 pounds on a guy.
You take the shoes off, it's a little different.
joe rogan
That's why I was interested in...
eddie bravo
A lot of that pressure's gone.
joe rogan
Josh Barnett fought Huron.
And showed up with those wrestling shoes on.
unidentified
And the tights.
joe rogan
And Dean Lister, same thing.
eddie bravo
There's always cons, too.
You can get foot locks a lot easier.
It's hard to pull that foot out.
joe rogan
How gangster is he, then, that he did it with Dean Lister?
eddie bravo
Yep.
brendan schaub
That's Barnett, though.
He's like, dude, this is what got me to the party.
Check this shit out.
Submitted both of them.
joe rogan
Not only that, he's dressing like an old carny wrestler.
ian mccall
I mean, he did.
joe rogan
He had, like, old tight shorts on.
ian mccall
Not even a Speedo.
He had, like, a high-waisted...
eddie bravo
He's single-handedly bringing back Kent Wrestling.
brendan schaub
Can you believe he got submitted by Rothwell?
eddie bravo
Anybody can get submitted.
It doesn't diminish him at all.
I got submitted five times.
brendan schaub
Barnett's one of the best of all time.
I love that guy.
He got cracked, didn't he?
ian mccall
I can't remember, right?
joe rogan
No, he shot in.
I don't remember exactly what the transition was, but that is apparently Rothwell's shit.
If Rothwell gets a hold of your neck from that ten-finger guillotine position, he just tucks that bitch in tight and chokes the fuck out of you.
brendan schaub
I'm saying if you gave me a hundred guesses, Rothwell's cementum would not be in there.
joe rogan
I would say the same.
Do you know the grip he's using?
What is the grip he's using?
eddie bravo
I don't know.
It's hidden.
ian mccall
And you have him and you're stuck to the fence.
unidentified
It's almost like a fence.
eddie bravo
Because it's under.
ian mccall
Rothwell's huge.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's calling it a go-go choke, right?
So what that means to me is that he's sticking something into your neck.
Because he's doing it like a go-go plata where it goes into your windpipe.
So I'm thinking he's holding his knuckles in some way that he's driving the knuckles.
brendan schaub
But then he also goes to the side with it.
joe rogan
He's one of Hickson's black belts.
They called Hickson up the night before, apparently.
eddie bravo
Krohn's really good at that.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Oh, is he really?
eddie bravo
Krohn's has crazy guillotines.
joe rogan
But this is not exactly like a guillotine.
eddie bravo
Well, it's a form of a guillotine.
joe rogan
Something like that.
eddie bravo
It's a form of a guillotine.
brendan schaub
It's fucking nasty, though.
joe rogan
What they're saying is, yeah, the knuckles are here.
You can kind of see it.
The knuckles are going deep into the neck as opposed to the regular guillotine where you're cutting off the windpipe or cutting off, rather, the blood on the sides.
eddie bravo
Well, a Marcelotine, same thing.
High elbow guillotine.
It's a trachea smash.
brendan schaub
I like Rothwell over Junior Dos Santos.
I keep picking against him.
I got to stop.
joe rogan
That trachea smash is nasty.
eddie bravo
Those are quick taps.
If it's good or it's right, it's immediate.
joe rogan
You know who's got a nasty one of those?
Amal Easton.
He's got a nasty one of those.
brendan schaub
Super nasty.
joe rogan
He demonstrated it on me, man.
I couldn't tap quick enough.
It's one of those...
Certain guys man like I would I don't want Uriah to strangle me But I would like to know what's going on with that because he's one of those motherfuckers and Benavidez is another one Gets a hold of your neck man.
Remember when Benavidez fought Tim Elliott and he had a tap with his feet Dude.
Some shit, son.
Benavidez has got some scoweeze.
He's got some scoweeze.
eddie bravo
There's a lot going on with that neck.
A lot of different ways to squeeze it.
Just because you're good at one way doesn't mean you're going to be good at any other way.
You've got to spend time on each way.
brendan schaub
People don't realize how big he is either.
unidentified
I remember when I found him, I was like, you're a giant.
eddie bravo
He's a gorilla.
joe rogan
You're a gorilla.
He's a gorilla of gorillas.
brendan schaub
I'm not really a gorilla.
joe rogan
You're a gorilla.
Just look at you, you're sitting next to Ian.
unidentified
Hey, buddy!
joe rogan
Look at this!
Look at this picture of Benavidez with almost like a mount guard, which I love.
eddie bravo
Skydiving.
joe rogan
That's the most nasty control.
brendan schaub
Skydiving, I love it, Eddie.
joe rogan
And then on top of that, he's just fucking skumushing him.
brendan schaub
I'm going to tap with his feet.
joe rogan
Yeah, both hands trapped.
Can't even say tap because he's eating some oblique.
brendan schaub
That's humiliating.
That's not tapping your feet.
eddie bravo
God, man.
ian mccall
He taps so hard with his feet, too.
It wasn't even like a...
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
The second you see that, the second you see that image, you're like, oh, that guy knows what he's doing.
eddie bravo
Like, as soon as you see that, you're like, no beginner gets in positions like that.
brendan schaub
And one of the best, nicest guys of all time.
Benavidez is a motherfucker.
joe rogan
The salt of the earth.
He is an awesome...
Oh, is there a video that actually shows it?
Oh, yeah.
Benefine is a monster, man.
His grappling is so strong.
Really underrated because you always see him moving well and punching and footwork and kicks and stuff.
You see him just being an overall fighter.
But his ground game, Elliott was a wrestler.
Elliott's a tough guy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, good wrestler.
joe rogan
When he got Elliott to the ground and I saw him just immediately advancing and just clamping down, I was like, ooh, this is a high-level fucking position for him.
Love it.
But he's another guy where...
eddie bravo
You know how badass this was?
As he mounted, he hit it.
I mean, do you know how badass that is?
unidentified
You never see that in MMA. Never see that.
eddie bravo
That's just like classic shit.
You see it in class.
brendan schaub
For sure.
eddie bravo
You see shit in class all the time, but it doesn't quite make it over to the UFC. High-level competition.
brendan schaub
Benavidez has the Misha Tate syndrome, where if there's no Ronda, there's no DJ, he's the motherfucker.
But just that during the time they're there, you're second best.
Sucks, man.
joe rogan
Well, also, the second fight they had, he tried to...
Are we out of time?
What's going on, Jamie?
What happens?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Let's keep going.
eddie bravo
That's insane.
What happens?
brendan schaub
People stop listening.
We just keep talking.
joe rogan
Three hours was a big issue with YouTube or Ustream, but now we're on YouTube.
We were having problems with both feeds.
No more Ustream?
No, we've been on YouTube for a while because we were having problems with both feeds on Ustream.
And YouTube is so good, it's like it's the best way to do it because you can, in the middle of it, you can rewind it, you can pause it, you can do shit to it.
Couldn't really do that with Ustream, so we decided to just keep doing them on YouTube.
But Benavidez, like, the second fight with Mighty Mouse was like a pivotal moment because he decided to, like, try to get flat-fitted.
ian mccall
Yep.
joe rogan
He just decided, like, his benefit or his pro on his corner is the power.
He's like, I'm just gonna dig my heels in and fuck this dude up.
You peeing again?
How dare you.
ian mccall
How many beers have you drank over there?
Drank, drunk?
joe rogan
He's only three in.
brendan schaub
He's three deep.
joe rogan
I could use another.
brendan schaub
I'm not going to lie to you guys.
Are they in there?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
You want one another?
joe rogan
No, I'm good, man.
Thank you.
brendan schaub
You're on that crazy diet.
joe rogan
Yeah, I probably shouldn't even drink this one.
I only drank half of it.
brendan schaub
Well, you drank one for the new Little Brown.
joe rogan
Little Brown.
ian mccall
You made a Little Brown, Big Brown.
brendan schaub
He's brown as shit, dude.
joe rogan
He's half Mexican.
ian mccall
What is he?
joe rogan
Brown?
Big brown?
He's not black.
Kimbo had to find that out the hard way.
Kimbo thought he was black.
It's a hilarious story.
There was somebody that was saying racist shit, they thought, and that story of Kimbo thinking you're black.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He's like, dude, I'm not black.
unidentified
What are you?
joe rogan
That's what we love about him.
What did he say?
brendan schaub
Because that's what I love, bro.
You don't know what the fuck he is.
I love Kimbo, man.
He's one of my favorite people.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
brendan schaub
I wish him success, man.
joe rogan
Me too.
I love him.
brendan schaub
You should have him on your show, Joe.
joe rogan
I would love to have him on.
brendan schaub
You would fall in love with the dude.
joe rogan
I love him anyway.
I met him.
brendan schaub
Once you talk to him, you're like, damn, man.
Just a good family, dude.
And just taking advantage of it.
joe rogan
I understand.
But if he's going to fight on TV, he's got to be in better shape than that.
You just gotta be in a better shape than that.
At the end of the day, there's no excuse either one of them have for being in that piss-poor shape.
It's one thing if they don't have the cardio...
Where's the bottle opener?
brendan schaub
Bottle opener up in his bitch.
joe rogan
Where'd he go?
Where'd he go?
brendan schaub
You know, I think he thought he was just gonna knock Dada out, so he said, fuck it, let's go back to the Miami days.
We can't do that.
ian mccall
Yeah, it doesn't work anymore.
brendan schaub
Nah, you get embarrassed.
eddie bravo
You want another beer?
joe rogan
No, no, I'm good.
We're just looking for the bottle opener.
What the hell do we do with it?
brendan schaub
How'd you open these, Eddie?
joe rogan
We had a bottle opener.
I swear we used it.
unidentified
Over here.
joe rogan
What were we just talking about?
brendan schaub
That'd be an epic podcast for you to have.
ian mccall
And Kimbo.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Look, I love Kimbo.
I think his story is awesome.
Dude, I just feel like at this point in time when you got guys like Will Brooks, when you got guys like, you know, now we just got over Benson Henderson.
You got guys like Paul Daly.
You got Michael Page.
Bad motherfucker.
You got some good talent over there.
Some real good talent.
Yeah, all the Russian guys.
brendan schaub
Kimbo's a draw, though, man.
And he's old.
joe rogan
I don't...
brendan schaub
And he's old.
joe rogan
Not as a headliner, folks.
You don't need that.
brendan schaub
He wasn't a headliner, though.
joe rogan
He was the co-headliner.
eddie bravo
That's a circus act.
joe rogan
It's a circus act.
You don't need that.
You could get away without that.
If you want to have that, have that on before you have a legit fight.
So you have that fight.
eddie bravo
Unless there's numbers.
Unless there's these crazy numbers.
Kimball fights.
17 million people.
unidentified
I bet you their numbers were better than you.
brendan schaub
I bet you Bellator's numbers were better than this cowboy card.
eddie bravo
Yeah, probably.
You know what?
I have nothing...
brendan schaub
That's not a good thing, by the way.
eddie bravo
I have no problem with Gracie Shamrock fucking 4. I have no problem with that.
brendan schaub
I do.
eddie bravo
I have no problem with that.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo wants to get back in with the Klan.
brendan schaub
As I'm wearing the Hoist Gracie shirt.
Yeah, he does.
You're doing anything you can.
eddie bravo
I should be wearing that shirt.
joe rogan
Why'd you guys switch shirts?
What the fuck?
He can't fit in that shirt, first of all.
That shit's tight on you.
ian mccall
Why won't you just love me, Dad?
Why won't you hire, Daddy?
unidentified
Hire!
ian mccall
Push me!
unidentified
I'm just saying, Kimbo is fun to watch if he has the right matchup.
eddie bravo
Wait a minute, you're defending Kimbo, but not Hoist?
And you're wearing a Hoist shirt?
brendan schaub
No, I love Hoist, but Hoist is 50!
joe rogan
Listen, he's probably healthier than Kimbo.
I kind of like his chances versus Kimbo.
How about that?
How about we just go Hoist versus Kimbo?
What's wrong with that?
ian mccall
Hoist at least looks like a 50-year-old guy.
joe rogan
I just came up with the best fight of all time.
That's the fight.
brendan schaub
That's the fucking fight.
He's already beat Ken Shamrock.
joe rogan
And we do it in Oklahoma on an Indian reservation where both of them can get their supplements.
brendan schaub
Just juice to the gills?
That'd be sick.
joe rogan
Come on, fucking do it.
Why not, Bellator?
eddie bravo
Hey, Bellator, you're welcome.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're welcome.
Get back in there.
Here you go.
eddie bravo
And then Dada vs.
Ken Shamrock.
joe rogan
That's exactly what I was going to say.
Let me just keep the Dada show going.
eddie bravo
I think Dada's done, son.
joe rogan
All Ken has to do is dance around for the first 30 seconds and Dada's out of gas.
brendan schaub
Hey, you know how you know fighting's not for you, Professor, when you have a heart attack after the fight?
joe rogan
It might not be for you.
brendan schaub
He almost died.
unidentified
Straight up.
joe rogan
Isn't that a sign of his courage, though, that he was able to push through when his cardio was completely failed?
brendan schaub
You think courage or stupidity?
joe rogan
I don't know.
unidentified
Damn.
brendan schaub
How rude.
ian mccall
People will do anything for a paycheck.
unidentified
My lord, you guys, tonight, I can't say shit!
joe rogan
I said that his body was filled with mashed potatoes and fried chicken, and then you say something, and I'm like, well, you said it's racist.
How dare you?
I just said how stupid he went in there.
Meatloaf, fried chicken.
eddie bravo
I mean, you hate Dada, you hate Hoyce.
unidentified
Who do you like?
brendan schaub
Oh, hell no.
I love Hoyce.
joe rogan
I love Hoyce.
Donald Cerrone.
That's who he loves.
unidentified
I love Donald.
joe rogan
And Magny.
eddie bravo
Neil Magny.
You love him.
joe rogan
I'm a fan of Magny.
ian mccall
It's because he's awesome.
brendan schaub
Dude, Magny has Hector next.
eddie bravo
Neil Magny's awesome.
unidentified
I love him.
joe rogan
Okay, let's be real about that.
Hector's 37, 38. He's coming off of a suspension for quite a long time for steroids, right?
How long is the suspension?
I think it was a long time.
brendan schaub
It's been a while.
joe rogan
It's more than a year.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So, what do you think about that fight?
brendan schaub
When they first told me that Neil was fighting, I told him, I said, I don't like it, because Neil doesn't use his range.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, look at this fucking...
eddie bravo
Who's that?
Who's that?
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
I don't know.
That was on Fight Pass, I guess.
Oh, my God.
What a bloody war these two chicks had.
brendan schaub
On Twitter, they said this was Fight of the Night, I heard.
joe rogan
Wow.
Jesus Christ.
eddie bravo
Oh, look at that guy.
That guy had some kung fu.
Did you see that?
brendan schaub
That is the thickest torso I've ever seen in my life.
joe rogan
Boom.
eddie bravo
Wow, that guy looks good.
Holy shit.
He's African.
joe rogan
Who is that dude?
eddie bravo
Bam Goosey.
brendan schaub
God damn.
eddie bravo
Holy shit.
That guy looks good.
unidentified
Damn.
ian mccall
Bam Goosey.
brendan schaub
Damn, people are just getting fucked up tonight.
ian mccall
Stinky leg.
joe rogan
Who is that?
eddie bravo
White boy got hands.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
brendan schaub
For fuck's sake.
joe rogan
Sean Strickland.
Oh, he knocked down Alex Garcia?
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
I like Alex Garcia.
joe rogan
Alex Garcia is a tank.
And he kissed the ground.
Who's going to get stabbed from kissing the ground?
brendan schaub
Look at that.
Yeah, he is.
He's got a staff on your lips, son.
unidentified
Damn.
brendan schaub
Merce on that bottom lip.
joe rogan
Chris Camosi, performance of the night.
That's so weird to me.
I feel like I'm watching some fucking Hunger Games shit.
Performance bonus.
50 grand.
Fatality.
Extra money.
ian mccall
Finish him.
joe rogan
For maiming.
Career ender.
eddie bravo
Plus 500. Do you know why they call it performance of the night and not submission of the night anymore?
joe rogan
Yeah, because sometimes they have no submissions.
eddie bravo
And sometimes it sounds too violent.
Knockout of the night sounds like it's promoting violence.
joe rogan
Oh, who said that?
eddie bravo
I can't say.
brendan schaub
Did you just make that up, Eddie?
eddie bravo
No, no, no, I can't say.
brendan schaub
Is this a conspiracy?
joe rogan
No, that's true.
eddie bravo
They were saying it sounded like it's promoting the most violent knockout, so let's just call it performance.
joe rogan
Well, they definitely tend to shy away from blood on these shows.
brendan schaub
Oh, on Fox, yes.
joe rogan
I was kind of shocked that they showed that one in the replay, with those two gals.
Is that sexist?
brendan schaub
Gals?
unidentified
Is there any truth to Fox trying to acquire a UFC? Why the fuck can't you say gals?
joe rogan
I've been scared to ask.
unidentified
Rumors.
brendan schaub
Not to say bitches.
ian mccall
I've been scared to ask.
brendan schaub
You say those bitches can fight?
joe rogan
If the Fertittas leave, though, and Dana leaves, look, this thing...
ian mccall
The ship is sinking.
joe rogan
This thing is not entirely, like...
ian mccall
Oh, there's Ashley.
unidentified
Who's that?
joe rogan
It's not permanent.
ian mccall
My friend Ashley.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
ian mccall
Ashley Evans-Smith.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, she looks awesome.
ian mccall
No, that's the girl getting...
brendan schaub
No, your friend's the one that was getting her ass kicked.
ian mccall
Yeah, she got her ass kicked.
joe rogan
Damn, Ashley Smith got whooped by that girl like that?
What's this girl's name?
brendan schaub
Split decision.
joe rogan
Renaud.
Oh, Marion Renaud?
Is that Marion Renaud?
eddie bravo
What happened there?
Why are they showing that?
There's a serious controversy going on.
What happened there?
joe rogan
29-28, Renault for me.
They're just talking about the decision.
I guess it was a decision.
eddie bravo
And who won?
joe rogan
29-28, Renault.
brendan schaub
Sounds like the other girl won.
eddie bravo
It sounds like Ashley Smith won?
I mean, they're showing score gone.
Something really happened.
joe rogan
One judge scored a 30-27.
I don't know.
We don't know.
How can we comment on a fight we didn't even watch?
brendan schaub
I love it.
That's why we do these things.
How much one click?
eddie bravo
Let's get to the bottom of that.
Let's see what happened there.
joe rogan
Get to the bottom.
brendan schaub
More Connors, son.
joe rogan
They want to go right to the money generator.
This is the money generator.
brendan schaub
Oh, Ashley Evans-Smith won.
unidentified
Okay.
eddie bravo
So they're saying it's a bad decision or something.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh, that's what it is.
brendan schaub
I like Ashley.
ian mccall
I've known her for a long time.
She's a nice girl.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's a girl that beat Fallon Fox.
unidentified
Correct.
joe rogan
She's the one girl that beat that transgender MMA fighter that used to be a dude.
brendan schaub
That's right.
ian mccall
And she's BFF with Carla.
joe rogan
Is she?
Oh, that's cool.
ian mccall
I gotta fucking deal with all of them because now, you know, Carla's at my gym.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
How's she doing?
ian mccall
She's doing good.
joe rogan
When is she getting back in there?
ian mccall
I don't know yet.
I mean, she's trained hard down though.
joe rogan
Yeah?
She decided to take some time off and like really work on her game?
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
Her striking?
ian mccall
And just, yeah, just revamp everything, get her head straight, and you know, she got her fucking ass kicked.
joe rogan
Well, she fought a murderer.
A little Polish murderer.
ian mccall
And she went into it mentally flat.
I mean, I'm there every day with her, so I saw weeks in advance, I was like, oh, she's fucked.
joe rogan
Do you think she was flat because of the pressure, or do you think she was flat because of overtraining?
brendan schaub
Or do you think Johanna's a fucking murderer?
ian mccall
It's a mixture of all of it.
You get in with a murder.
brendan schaub
More Johanna, though.
ian mccall
Yeah.
Okay, so we're sitting backstage, and we can hear Johanna warming up, looking right next door.
joe rogan
Smack!
ian mccall
And Carlos's sitting there going, and I just looked at her, and I was like, fuck.
Come here.
Let's start.
Let's warm up.
Let's warm up.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ian mccall
Ioana was just fucking screaming in there the whole time.
For like two hours.
joe rogan
I think she's doing it there to fuck with these heads.
brendan schaub
Holy shit.
ian mccall
That makes me love her more.
That makes me love her more.
joe rogan
She's probably not even hitting pads.
She probably has someone smacking things and she's just yelling.
ian mccall
It's on a ghetto box.
brendan schaub
It's on a ghetto box.
ian mccall
It was fucking scary, you know?
It was fucking...
It's an MP3. Like, my grandpa sat back in the World War, whatever war he was in, sitting, the Japanese were hitting the trees with swords, and middle of the night, all night long, whack, whack, whack, and just screaming in the jungle.
joe rogan
Trying to keep you awake?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I think everyone when they saw Ioana just fucking murk girls was like, I'm gonna take some time off and work on my stand-up.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Juliana Pena fight was the worst.
brendan schaub
Good luck.
joe rogan
Not Juliana Pena, Jessica Pena.
Jessica Pena.
ian mccall
And that's another girl I've known for a long time.
joe rogan
Dude, she murked her.
brendan schaub
She gave her a nose job full free.
joe rogan
She smashed her whole face in.
brendan schaub
Smashed her face.
joe rogan
She's so scary with her striking, man.
brendan schaub
She's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
But she breaks her hands all the time.
She's got Uncle Creepy disease.
brendan schaub
And still wins.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, she guts it out, yeah.
ian mccall
She's fucking...
It got to the point where she was fucking with Carla, and then with all the noise, I walked out to that fight fucking staring at her.
unidentified
Wow.
ian mccall
Like, fuck you.
brendan schaub
Don't get head kicked, son.
ian mccall
Oh, yeah, I'm looking at her, because, you know, my basic little sister is about to fight you, and then she's fucking...
joe rogan
If you loved her, why'd you let her fight her?
unidentified
If you really loved her, and you see Johanna...
brendan schaub
You know what it's like?
It's like kickbox her.
joe rogan
You pull her aside and go listen.
brendan schaub
It's like kickbox your Van Damme.
unidentified
Don't do it.
joe rogan
Let's go fishing.
ian mccall
Let's get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Get on one of them Wonderland cruises and go see the killer whales in Alaska.
brendan schaub
Let's just get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Let's get the fuck out of here.
We don't need to be doing this, baby.
ian mccall
Because she didn't take me on shit.
She takes her best friends.
joe rogan
Oh, you let her.
ian mccall
I had the sibling rivalry, maybe.
joe rogan
You better get marked.
ian mccall
No, that was fucking...
That broke my heart.
joe rogan
Well, she's the champ.
She had to defend her title.
There's no way around it.
You know, unless she vacates the title and says, look, I'm going to take some time off.
You know who did that in Glory?
Valtellini.
He had a concussion.
He said, I'm going to vacate the title.
I'm going to walk away.
I'm going to, you know, rest my fucking brain up.
brendan schaub
Dude, good luck beating Carla.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that division is just...
How about Claudia Gedalia?
There's a good argument that Claudia Gedalia won the first fight with Juana.
ian mccall
I thought she did.
joe rogan
A lot of people did.
brendan schaub
It was close.
joe rogan
It's very close.
brendan schaub
I bet you this next one isn't.
joe rogan
You think so?
unidentified
Yep, you guys can call me a hater, glass half empty.
brendan schaub
I just think Johanna's gonna fuck her world up.
ian mccall
I feel the same way.
joe rogan
Okay, well...
brendan schaub
It's a different...
joe rogan
She could, or we could see...
I mean, we don't know until they get after her, because...
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, with my educated opinion, what I think.
Yeah, I agree, she looked great.
joe rogan
Clotch is a beast, man.
brendan schaub
Super beast.
joe rogan
Nasty ground game, too.
brendan schaub
She looks like a little Thiago Alves.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
ian mccall
The last girl that fought Ioana is Valerie, right?
When she took her down, I was like, oh, your ground kind of sucks.
joe rogan
Well, Valerie is tough as fuck, dude.
She's tough as fuck.
She always looks the same after every fight.
She's like, oh, fucked up, swollen eye.
But that girl's tough.
brendan schaub
They say Ioana gets in their NAMP stand and goes with the dudes.
Just does work.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Good luck meeting that.
joe rogan
She's tiny.
brendan schaub
She's got a stylist too.
They're like, hey, those white polos?
Uh-uh.
Let's mix this up.
joe rogan
That's her style, bro.
brendan schaub
No, she makes it up.
joe rogan
Oh, she's a new stylist?
brendan schaub
Yeah, she got a little money and she's like, fuck this.
joe rogan
Ah, interesting.
brendan schaub
Stepped her game up.
ian mccall
Got some of those Kanye shoes?
brendan schaub
Nah, she's not that famous.
ian mccall
What the fuck was the Kanye shit?
unidentified
I still don't know.
brendan schaub
Oh, me and Jamie stayed up all night.
We pulled an all-nighter and we didn't get him.
joe rogan
You know, there's a really big fight at 170. What is he saying here?
eddie bravo
I'd like to hear this.
joe rogan
He's saying all kinds of crazy shit.
brendan schaub
He's just mind-fucking him.
eddie bravo
Can we hear this?
joe rogan
Yeah, turn it up.
eddie bravo
Can we rewind it just a bit?
joe rogan
You can't rewind it?
Why can't we rewind it?
ian mccall
It's just a montage of his shit-talking.
joe rogan
Isn't this DirecTV?
We could rewind it.
What, do we cave people?
You know, like, you see people sitting there watching a commercial, like, you know, you don't have to do this.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's pause this bitch and go get something to eat.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
What the fuck are we doing?
brendan schaub
Fucking hate commercials.
joe rogan
Crank it.
unidentified
Now, what does Mystic Mac have to say about 2016?
2016, well, the end of 2015 means the end of the Federalweight Division.
They are all dead in the water.
ian mccall
It's done.
unidentified
But I have my eye on that 155 Division, and I see them all stuck in the moat in there.
The division will be killed, like I predicted.
ian mccall
And then it's on to the 155 stuck in the moat division.
brendan schaub
This motherfucker.
Goddamn.
eddie bravo
Oh shit.
brendan schaub
And nothing's ever the same.
joe rogan
He's always different.
Religious people are going crazy.
They're crazy mad at him.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
ian mccall
I keep trying to go to the place that, or the guy that makes his suits, I work out with him, but it's a little too expensive.
joe rogan
David August?
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, he makes his suits for the UFC. Yeah.
All those monkey suits that you see me wearing now.
ian mccall
They're all David August?
He makes fucking great suits, man.
joe rogan
Oh, they fit great.
And I don't have to bring clothes.
That's what I like.
I can dress normal.
ian mccall
Exactly.
joe rogan
I just show up and change now.
brendan schaub
You have it in your locker room now?
joe rogan
Yeah, I used to have to bring my own clothes.
That's why I always wore the same exact shit.
Black shirt, jeans, black shoes, that's it.
That's all I wore.
ian mccall
Have you ever seen all the chain dragging that I do?
I'll put like one of those anchor harnesses on and put 100 or 200 pounds of chains and drag it for like a mile.
Give me a suit or five.
joe rogan
That all fits my little short troll body perfectly.
ian mccall
See, it's hard to find suits.
Luckily I used to work in the fashion industry, so I know what the fuck I'm buying.
joe rogan
Imagine being Yoel Romero.
ian mccall
Oh God.
joe rogan
He should.
Try to find a suit for one of those guys, or Dan Bobish.
Remember him?
ian mccall
Round and bald.
joe rogan
Yeah, remember Dan Bobish?
I'm built like a fucking brick shithouse, man.
That guy was gigantic.
brendan schaub
Suits aren't for everyone.
joe rogan
They're not for you, are they?
brendan schaub
Oh, I love a suit.
A suit?
eddie bravo
Tell us.
brendan schaub
I love a suit.
eddie bravo
How many suits you got?
brendan schaub
A couple, for sure.
joe rogan
You gonna buy yourself a suit when your kid turns one?
brendan schaub
Probably.
Or another watch.
joe rogan
Or another push.
ian mccall
We should get matching suits.
eddie bravo
I had to have like three or four suits when I commented for King of the Cage and Pride.
I wore the suits.
joe rogan
There's Bobish.
ian mccall
Oh, jeez.
King of the Cage.
brendan schaub
I forgot about that guy.
joe rogan
Remember when Mark Kerr submitted him with a chin in the eyeball?
brendan schaub
Good God, yes I do.
joe rogan
Mounted him, shoved his chin in his eyeball and forced it in there until he tapped.
That shit was nasty.
I remember that fight.
brendan schaub
Look at those boys.
joe rogan
He fought Mark Kerr the fucking Smashing Machine.
That's back when Mark was the specimen before he even became the Smashing Machine.
He was the specimen first.
eddie bravo
He might have one of the best bodies in MMA. The Brazilians called him the Smashing Machine when he went to Brazil and he went to Brazil before the UFC. Well, who called him a specimen then?
joe rogan
I thought that was his.
brendan schaub
Dude, look at Mark Kerr in that picture.
eddie bravo
White people call him that.
But the Brazilians call him a smashing machine.
joe rogan
The Brazilians call him a smashing machine.
ian mccall
Best white man body.
joe rogan
Look at that fucking neck.
Good lord.
First of all, is he totally white?
Because I would say no.
brendan schaub
I think so.
First team all body right now.
ian mccall
He's got my pick.
eddie bravo
He had definitely the roundest ass of all time.
brendan schaub
Is that real?
joe rogan
Yeah.
When he was at his best, he was fucking terrifying.
But the thing is, no one can sustain that level of juice for more than a few years.
ian mccall
And other intravenous drugs.
eddie bravo
Is that Butterbean right there?
ian mccall
That's Bobish.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's Butterbean.
The Smashing Machine.
It's best body and worst body ever in MMA. The Smashing Machine was a crazy documentary.
If you haven't seen it, folks, pause this podcast.
brendan schaub
I've never seen it.
joe rogan
You've never seen The Smashing Machine?
brendan schaub
And I love me some docs.
ian mccall
They caught it so good.
eddie bravo
That's a crazy doc, dude.
joe rogan
They caught him right when he was falling apart.
They went to him to film a documentary when Kerr was on top of the world, smashing people.
And what they found is a guy who was just about to lose it.
Like, right when they came along and started filming it, and he didn't give a fuck.
He was, like, shooting up in front of them.
He was doing drugs in front of them.
brendan schaub
Wasn't he gay, too?
Not that it matters, but wasn't he gay?
joe rogan
That's never been shown.
I don't know if that's true or not true.
ian mccall
He had a weird relationship with some woman, and then...
Yeah, he was shooting up, like...
Actual painkillers, like pharmaceuticals.
Goddamn.
joe rogan
Dude, it was hardcore.
brendan schaub
Where can I find it, Doc?
Is it on Netflix?
joe rogan
Everywhere.
It's on everything.
Smashing Machines on everything.
It's probably on iTunes, too.
ian mccall
It's really good.
joe rogan
How do you think this guy like Woodley feels?
Like, sit on the outside, knowing that they want Wonderboy to fight for the title, and knowing the reality is, if he doesn't secure that fight with Robbie Law or before UFC 200, and Conor knocks out Dos Anjos.
ian mccall
He's fucked.
brendan schaub
You're in third place.
eddie bravo
He's in third place right now.
joe rogan
He's in third place.
brendan schaub
And he deserves it.
joe rogan
Well, he's in second place.
Because, like, public-wise, he's not in first place, but, like, the UFC does own one, right?
So they think he's going to fight for the title next.
If he does fight for the title next, that's all well and good unless Conor smashes Dos Anjos.
Then all bets are off.
brendan schaub
Everything's off.
eddie bravo
Who would you put your money on, Conor or Tyrone?
That would be crazy, right?
What could Conor do to that guy?
joe rogan
Punch him in the face.
eddie bravo
You think somebody's so fast that it would be so hard to hit?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, Tyron is a beast, and he's really good at closing the distance.
brendan schaub
He's always had cardio issues.
eddie bravo
He might be able to take Conor down at will, maybe.
brendan schaub
100%.
But for how long?
eddie bravo
At 170?
ian mccall
For five rounds, though.
eddie bravo
He'd take him down at will, right?
ian mccall
He could hit an outside double.
Or even if he grabbed that really wide leg...
You know, it's just getting in there because Conor is so fast and moves so fluidly.
But if he got a hold of him, he would throw him on his head and hold him there for a long time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Damn, Holly Holm and Misha Tate's coming up.
joe rogan
That's an interesting fight, huh?
brendan schaub
Very interesting.
joe rogan
Misha Tate turns out into a dogfight.
She's not going to charge forward like Ronda did.
brendan schaub
She's too smart.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's going to turn into a totally different kind of fight.
brendan schaub
Misha hasn't fought forever.
Kat Zingano.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
She had a hard time.
Before the Ronda fight, that crazy war that she had with...
brendan schaub
She knocked out Misha before that.
joe rogan
No.
No, she knocked out Misha, then she hurt her knee, and then she had that Amanda Nunes fight.
The Amanda Nunes fight was chaos in the first round.
She got hurt bad in the first round.
ian mccall
Really bad.
joe rogan
And after that fight, she took a long time to recover.
Like, she had a bunch of issues.
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, mental issues after that fight.
brendan schaub
Her husband was getting suicide.
joe rogan
Well, not just that.
That was, for sure, a huge thing.
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
But, I mean, physical mental...
From head trauma.
From getting rattled.
You know, she had to take some time off.
brendan schaub
She's taking a lot of time off.
She had fun of...
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Well, she fought Ronda and jumped at her and got caught.
brendan schaub
16-second fight.
joe rogan
And did she fight after that?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Since then?
ian mccall
No.
Not that I know of.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian mccall
But, I mean, she's so good, but...
brendan schaub
You're going to fight it often enough.
joe rogan
What are they doing showing us racing cars?
brendan schaub
Don't ever show me that in my face again.
joe rogan
Stop.
How dare you, Fox Sports.
What are you doing?
unidentified
Teledega.
joe rogan
Is this still the UFC on Fox?
Not ended.
brendan schaub
They only do it for the first half an hour.
Then they go to regular sports.
joe rogan
This is a crazy fucking thing to do with your life.
Have you ever tried riding one of those cars?
Have you ever been in a NASCAR? I haven't.
brendan schaub
And I don't give a fuck.
ian mccall
Anything with horsepower is fun.
eddie bravo
Is that 300?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's 300. Damn, he's still going off that, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's all he's got.
unidentified
FREEDOM! We got a new movie coming out that looks just like Spartan.
eddie bravo
Gods of Egypt or something like that?
joe rogan
When everybody found out his body wasn't really like it was in that show, we were like, hey.
brendan schaub
You robbed us.
unidentified
Those abs were CGI. Yeah, CGI abs.
joe rogan
We thought you were yoked, yo.
eddie bravo
Yeah, he ain't shit.
joe rogan
These cars must be so fun to drive.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I bet they're really fun.
joe rogan
Oh my god, could you imagine?
brendan schaub
I can't get in a NASCAR though.
They go around the track 500 times, it just does nothing for me.
ian mccall
Have you ever been to an event?
brendan schaub
No.
Let me guess, cars like this?
ian mccall
Fuck the cars.
You just walk around infield or walk around.
My family's always owned a Toyota dealership forever.
They used to.
So we would always get tickets to races and stuff.
It's just entertaining as fuck.
You've got 100,000 people show up to...
brendan schaub
Dude, people love it and they're diehard fans so I'm missing something.
joe rogan
Formula One is the shit.
ian mccall
Oh, that's the best shit on the planet.
brendan schaub
That's wild to watch.
ian mccall
Or MotoGP.
brendan schaub
You ever watch MotoGP?
Formula One's badass.
joe rogan
You want to see a good documentary?
Watch the documentary on Ayrton Senna.
It's called Senna.
Oh my god, it's amazing.
He's a Brazilian Formula One driver in like the heyday.
He was a bad motherfucker, just a wild, crazy, reckless dude.
He took some mad chances, man.
It is a great fucking...
I like it already.
You ever see it, Jamie?
eddie bravo
Hey, how about that, speaking of...
joe rogan
What are you laughing at, Jamie?
brendan schaub
Remember that one sketch that the Asian NASCAR driver who started hiring or promoting Asian NASCAR drivers because they would wreck.
eddie bravo
You know, people really want to watch wrecks.
So they'd be like a famous Asian guy that they know they're going to get epic wrecks.
joe rogan
Look what happens when you fucking lose control of your car.
Jesus Christ, man.
brendan schaub
Damn, for sure put on the brakes.
joe rogan
We can't.
brendan schaub
Well, that's Danica Patrick.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a chick.
ian mccall
Of course that's what happens.
joe rogan
Well, watch that again.
Watch what she did.
Watch where her car goes flying through the air, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, they make bank.
joe rogan
Before that, though, before when she gets clipped, it just gives you an idea of how fast they're going.
Look, he catches the corner, and look at her car's airborne sideways, son.
brendan schaub
I like when they yell at each other.
joe rogan
Heading towards the concrete, man, and she pulled it out.
eddie bravo
Dude, she recovered.
joe rogan
What a recovery.
brendan schaub
Finish dead last.
eddie bravo
How often do they practice maneuvering out of bad spots like that?
I mean, that's gotta be part of their training, right?
ian mccall
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Shouldn't that be part of their training?
ian mccall
I'm sure it is.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sure.
eddie bravo
It saved their fucking life.
joe rogan
Well, they have to learn how to turn things so you don't hit things head-on.
In that sense, she recovered perfectly.
But when you're flying through the air sideways like that, you really can't control it.
When that happens, if you're too close to a wall, you're gonna hit.
ian mccall
You can downshift out of it, you can pull your e-brake, you can gasp, whatever you're trying to do.
eddie bravo
She was in the air sideways.
brendan schaub
Damn, look how close that was, though.
ian mccall
I'm just saying that because I slid out in the rain in my old built Subaru.
joe rogan
Well, that's the same thing.
ian mccall
And slid out and just fucking...
unidentified
You know, you fucking head towards something.
ian mccall
You can't do anything.
She's going 100 miles an hour faster, or 150 miles an hour faster.
joe rogan
I grew up driving in snow.
eddie bravo
Look at Chevrolet on the bottom, Toyota on the top, Chevrolet on the bottom.
What does that tell you?
joe rogan
Nothing.
eddie bravo
Ford right there in the middle.
joe rogan
Chevy wins.
eddie bravo
Dude, Toyota is the shit.
ian mccall
Look at that.
Depends what era we're in here.
eddie bravo
Daytona and Toyota's winning?
How...
Isn't...
What?
joe rogan
It is kind of crazy.
eddie bravo
It's bullshit.
ian mccall
Hey, Japan won best whiskey in the world last year.
And also, apparently, best fucking NASCAR. But they're not Asian drivers.
joe rogan
Well, Japan has one of the most incredible cars ever built right now.
The Nissan GT-R. That's a motherfucker.
They have the new one that's out now.
Godzilla.
Well, they have the new one, the Nismo Nissan GT-R. It's 600 horsepower.
They're having issues, though, with it.
What issues?
It's too fast?
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
No, with the old ones, with the launch button.
eddie bravo
How fast?
joe rogan
Oh, the old ones, yeah.
brendan schaub
The first generation, right?
joe rogan
The first generation, there was just too much power there to beef up the transmission.
Launch control would blow the training out if they did it more than a couple of times.
But the new ones, the Nismo one, they say that you're taking turns like defy physics.
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it's all-wheel drive.
It's insanely balanced.
It's 600 horsepower.
brendan schaub
I love them.
joe rogan
Massive downforce on this huge wing.
And you know what's way faster than that?
The new Viper ACR. Viper just went all the way.
brendan schaub
Have you seen that thing?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
I watched five videos on it yesterday.
I watched five different videos where they were driving around.
Jamie, pull that up.
You want to see the most gangster car?
brendan schaub
I want to buy an old Viper.
unidentified
Fuck!
joe rogan
Stop that!
Get the new one.
Listen, the new one is broken every single track record.
Every single track they've raced this thing on for time, it's broken the record on.
Do you understand how insane that is?
eddie bravo
When does that stop?
When does it go 0 to 60 in one second?
When does that happen?
joe rogan
Well, there's 0 to 60. This is just over two.
unidentified
Look at this fucking car!
joe rogan
Everywhere it goes, it should be the fucking Team America song.
eddie bravo
I agree.
It's faster than a motorcycle.
ian mccall
Just swallowing people.
joe rogan
The handling on this thing is fucking bananas.
It's more than 600 horsepower.
I think it's like 650 horsepower.
brendan schaub
That was always the issue, right?
The handling.
joe rogan
Yeah, the handling is off the charts and it has the most downforce of any production car.
Look at that hood.
Look at the louvers and the hood and the vents.
brendan schaub
And for what it is, they're usually not that expensive for the supercar.
eddie bravo
It makes my dick hard.
joe rogan
And if you watch the videos on it, it seems just glorious.
brendan schaub
God, they look fucking sweet.
joe rogan
The guys are driving these things around.
I don't like that giant fan on the back.
That's the only thing that keeps you on the road, bro.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm going to have to get rid of it, though.
unidentified
LAUGHTER He's all style.
eddie bravo
I go for looks.
joe rogan
I love the wing.
That thing is so fast.
ian mccall
Just put your groceries in it and push it around.
brendan schaub
Ah, fuck that.
joe rogan
They say it's the fastest American race car ever for sure that you could just go to a store and buy, and the only cars that beat it cost over a million dollars.
brendan schaub
Like McLaren, Bugatti or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, the Spyder 918. Oh, I love that car.
ian mccall
That's the prettiest car ever.
joe rogan
That's a monster car.
But this thing is like hot on its heels, and it costs $160,000.
We're talking about something that loses track time by like a tenth of a second.
eddie bravo
That logo is pretty awesome, too.
brendan schaub
Look at that!
joe rogan
Look at that fucking thing!
Look at that.
That is the coolest looking car.
eddie bravo
I agree.
joe rogan
That appeals so strong to the 14-year-old boy in me.
brendan schaub
Me too, man.
It's like seeing a hot chick.
eddie bravo
Can you get it without the stripes?
joe rogan
No!
Stripes.
brendan schaub
Take the stripes.
joe rogan
How dare you.
Be a man.
eddie bravo
Fuck a stripe.
joe rogan
That color's sick.
I feel like I want to get rid of my Porsche and get one of those.
unidentified
Hey, hey.
ian mccall
Laguna Seca Blue.
Don't get rid of your Porsche.
joe rogan
Hey, Scrooge.
Let's just get both.
I like the way you think.
I like the way you think.
I gotta get a warehouse.
I've got to build more wells in Africa first so I don't feel bad about it.
brendan schaub
We'll just donate to Justin Dead and then we'll get this car.
joe rogan
I'm calling him tomorrow.
I was going to call him anyway.
I've got to throw some more money in there.
I throw money in there every year.
brendan schaub
He's trying to hype this.
You want to help him?
We've got to hype this Kimbo fight for him.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I'll definitely do that.
But I think I would like to just get a bunch of people to do it.
Oh, is this the new Raptor?
ian mccall
The new Raptor's badass.
unidentified
Goddammit.
joe rogan
This is the new one?
Ooh, this is the all aluminum one.
People get mad when we talk about cars.
Do you know that?
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
People get mad.
Yeah, they go, you got fucking money?
You want to talk some shit, bro?
The guy got mad because I was saying that a Mustang is a great bargain at $35,000.
And he's like, dude, $35,000 is not fucking cheap.
A lot of us out here in the real world are real jobs.
brendan schaub
God damn it.
joe rogan
The new GT? Well, whatever you do, sir, don't ever watch those Motor Trend videos because they'll bum you out every week.
Because I can't afford most of those cars, so you definitely can't afford those cars either if you're complaining about a $35,000 Mustang.
And I get it.
You know, if you only make like $50,000 a year, that's a lot of money.
But you got to look at what a Mustang is.
Like, realistically, don't put yourself into it and how much money people make.
You look at a Mustang for $35,000, that is a fucking...
brendan schaub
Steel, the new GT. In the grand scheme of things, like on the price scale of Mustangs.
ian mccall
And the new ones actually look good.
This is the first generation of Mustangs I've been finally, since, you know, I grew up with my dad having a 64 and a half or 65 convertible with a Boss 302 put in there.
You know, fucking car people.
And Mustangs were so ugly until now.
joe rogan
They were pretty.
ian mccall
Since the 60s.
joe rogan
They were pretty goofy looking until like the most recent Shelby GT500. I'm in love with the new one.
Those are pretty sweet, but the new ones are off the charts cool looking.
Off the charts.
They're so good.
brendan schaub
Fuck all that noise.
I'm trying to get that Viper.
joe rogan
That Viper's a monster.
Viper's a monster.
But you can't put a baby seat in the Viper.
brendan schaub
You can't put a baby seat in my Porsche.
unidentified
That's why my girl's SUV. You let me do my thing, man.
ian mccall
You let me fly.
Yeah, and there's no AC, no radio.
joe rogan
There's the Nismo.
Look at that thing.
Look at this fucking rocket ship, man.
brendan schaub
That thing looks like a turd with eyes compared to that Viper.
ian mccall
I think it's so ugly.
joe rogan
Oh, it definitely doesn't look as good.
brendan schaub
That Viper shits on everything we've seen so much.
joe rogan
It looks cool from the side, though.
eddie bravo
From the side, it looks cool.
joe rogan
What the GT-R looks like is a spaceship.
What the Viper looks like is sex.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
Looks like hot tits.
It looks like a girl with a 13-inch waist and tits as big as the sun.
brendan schaub
I want to drive that.
It makes you want to drive it, doesn't it?
That's why you want to drive it.
joe rogan
A big, ridiculous, bulbous ass that did no shorts in the world.
ian mccall
Clown tits.
brendan schaub
Meanwhile, the GTR is fucking Foxy Betty, but just fast as fuck.
joe rogan
Who said that?
Forget about camel toe.
Forget about moose knuckle.
ian mccall
The GTR is a little Japanese girl.
joe rogan
We're talking about elephant armpit.
That's what her pussy looks like.
Her pussy, the way her Daisy Dukes are wedged up in her vagina, it's elephant armpit.
That's what the viper is.
eddie bravo
Do moose knuckles generally...
Is that a turn-on for guys when they see a moose knuckle?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You know the pussy's definitely there.
eddie bravo
I assume it's a joke.
It must have been a joke, but on Instagram or something, I saw, like, there's a thing that you could...
unidentified
Fake moose knuckle?
eddie bravo
Like, it's a fake moose knuckle.
ian mccall
I've seen fake nipples before.
eddie bravo
I'm sure that's fake, but why is that fake?
Why is that a joke?
joe rogan
Well, because people try anything to get an edge.
They'll try...
Dudes will load up their pants with a sock.
I mean, that's happening.
brendan schaub
You can't be my friend if you do that.
joe rogan
If you put a sock in your pants?
brendan schaub
Yeah, you can't do that, man.
joe rogan
I'll be right back.
eddie bravo
What about fake moose knuckles?
brendan schaub
Well, girls do fake wedgies.
You know that?
eddie bravo
Fake asses for sure.
brendan schaub
There's wedgie genes now.
joe rogan
Come on.
brendan schaub
Yeah, so they ride up in that asshole.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
So it looks like your ass is better.
joe rogan
Imagine smelling the crack of those things after a long day in Mexican food.
brendan schaub
It's tough.
joe rogan
And Chipotle.
brendan schaub
It's tough.
Yeah, there's wedgie jeans.
joe rogan
Why do you want to shove jeans in an asshole?
eddie bravo
Guys or girls?
joe rogan
Don't press up.
There they are, wedgie jeans.
brendan schaub
Look at that ass.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
eddie bravo
That makes asses look disgusting.
joe rogan
It makes your ass look a bit better.
brendan schaub
No, it highlights the ass.
eddie bravo
It makes your ass look like shit.
That looks like shit.
joe rogan
How dare you?
brendan schaub
Eddie.
joe rogan
Well, those are flat asses.
brendan schaub
You're so negative tonight.
eddie bravo
That looks like shit.
joe rogan
No offense.
brendan schaub
Eddie, you're so negative tonight.
ian mccall
Better ass than those pants.
eddie bravo
The girls are pulling up their jeans nowadays.
They've been doing that for like two years now.
brendan schaub
I'm not used to it yet.
ian mccall
You don't like the high waist pants?
eddie bravo
I like the low cut.
I'm still with the low cut.
You're pulling jeans up your ass and you're fucking up...
I don't know, dude.
joe rogan
Don't get angry, Eddie.
ian mccall
They're just pants?
Either way, they're going to end up on the floor.
unidentified
Either way, they're going to end up on the floor.
It's fine.
joe rogan
Bro, chill.
unidentified
That's a good point.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
brendan schaub
Nothing beats yoga pants still, though.
eddie bravo
Just chill, bro.
Who decides on these fucking trends?
Let's pull up our fucking pants apart.
Who cares?
joe rogan
Any girl that wears anything other than yoga pants is an asshole.
eddie bravo
Yeah, fuck that's a good point.
joe rogan
You know that you can wear them everywhere.
How about that?
We'll take it.
We'll accept it.
unidentified
I know.
brendan schaub
How dare you?
joe rogan
Please just continue to wear those everywhere.
brendan schaub
We'll wear them to the theater.
ian mccall
We'll call them leggings.
We're going to call them leggings.
eddie bravo
Just pretend you do yoga.
Just say you do yoga until you took a couple classes.
joe rogan
Oh, it's just like working out.
eddie bravo
I like to keep myself.
It's a form of meditation.
ian mccall
You have your daytime workout gear and then you have your nighttime workout gear.
That's what girls do now.
joe rogan
I like to be like sleek and move through the air easy.
ian mccall
Aerodynamic.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing it took so long to figure out yoga pants.
eddie bravo
La la lulu pants.
brendan schaub
Whatever, whatever.
unidentified
Whatever they are, keep going.
eddie bravo
Keep going with that shit.
joe rogan
La la lulu pants.
How funny is that shit?
eddie bravo
Those are huge.
Damn, they're making a fucking killing with that fucking...
unidentified
Well, they know how to make them, man.
eddie bravo
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
They know how to jam those bitches in.
They look good.
eddie bravo
They straighten out all the cellulite and shit.
You can't even see none of that.
joe rogan
They're packing in tight.
And if the cloth is just thick enough...
It can hide a lot of flaws.
brendan schaub
They hate to be a downer here, but they'll honeydick you, because it's like sausage, it's packaged.
You release that shit?
eddie bravo
No, no, you're right, you're right.
brendan schaub
They get sloppy.
You're right, you're right.
You know what I'm saying?
eddie bravo
They need to make La La Lulu's work with holes in them.
brendan schaub
With holes in them, so you have to take them out?
You know what I'm saying?
There's a little Velcro, you just go like that, bam, you don't ever have to take them off.
unidentified
Lululemon.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's something about those fucking yoga pants, man.
It's amazing how dumb they were in the 60s and the 70s.
They never figured out any of this shit.
Until the Dukes of Hazzard came along, they never even figured out cut-off jeans.
ian mccall
Daisy, what was her name?
brendan schaub
Who the fuck would have cut their jeans off?
joe rogan
As soon as they figured out that, oh, you could basically just have your vagina a slight tug away.
Because all you have to do if you want to fuck a girl who's wearing Daisy Dukes, she bends over and you go like this.
eddie bravo
Those jeans are pretty tight.
Here's the move.
It's not that easy.
brendan schaub
Here's the move.
eddie bravo
The jeans, maybe with underwear, yes.
joe rogan
But with the jeans, that's hard.
You unbutton that button, one button, and you push that bitch over the side.
ian mccall
See, but then...
brendan schaub
It's science, Eddie.
joe rogan
The dirty ones.
Eddie, but she's hurt.
You see, Daisy Duke had the right thing.
See, the girls today, they wear Daisy Dukes, but they're so tight you can't even get them off.
Daisy Dukes were not that tight.
ian mccall
They were falling off.
joe rogan
Look at that.
See, see, see, see?
Dog, dog.
brendan schaub
Look at her.
joe rogan
Told you.
Those things are kind of loose.
One pop of that brass button, and that cooter's flying into the breeze.
It's ready for action.
brendan schaub
Did you see Jessica Simpson in the remake?
She has something to say, too.
eddie bravo
She don't have no ass.
joe rogan
How dare you?
brendan schaub
Eddie, you're so negative.
eddie bravo
Oh, she does!
joe rogan
That's a cartoon!
eddie bravo
That's a cartoon!
ian mccall
That's her ass!
brendan schaub
That's Jessica Simpson.
Yes, it is.
eddie bravo
No way.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Dude, her ass looks great.
eddie bravo
What's that over there in the pink?
joe rogan
Jessica Simpson is a voluptuous young lady.
eddie bravo
What's that?
Is that Jessica Simpson?
joe rogan
No, that's a hoe.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
Whatever that is.
brendan schaub
It's a good time.
joe rogan
She's a good kid.
Google Jessica Simpson's ass, please.
eddie bravo
Yes, yes.
brendan schaub
Jessica Simpson's one of the top of all time.
eddie bravo
Jessica Simpson?
joe rogan
As my grandmother would say, she has a lovely figure.
Yes.
brendan schaub
Your grandma's right.
eddie bravo
Wow, I missed that one.
I never knew that.
ian mccall
She got real big.
unidentified
Look at that baby.
eddie bravo
She's naked and pregnant.
joe rogan
Yeah, get a good one, Jamie.
unidentified
Yeah, she has babies.
joe rogan
Don't just click on anyone.
eddie bravo
That's hard to tell.
joe rogan
Is that her ass?
brendan schaub
She was so fine.
eddie bravo
That's hard to tell.
joe rogan
That's not her.
eddie bravo
You can't tell.
brendan schaub
That's her?
eddie bravo
You can't tell.
joe rogan
Is that a Jessica Simpson?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
You really can't tell that.
joe rogan
There's no proof.
The angles aren't done.
The low left I'm very impressed with.
brendan schaub
Dude, she is a banger.
joe rogan
Low left looks very good.
eddie bravo
Okay.
joe rogan
That could be the angle.
brendan schaub
Her and her prime, man, she's top ten for me.
eddie bravo
What about the pregnant one?
joe rogan
Ooh, that's pretty good.
Okay.
Stretch that bitch out, Jamie.
eddie bravo
I don't think that's her.
unidentified
What?
That is her.
brendan schaub
Seems like an angel, too.
That is her.
joe rogan
Is that her?
eddie bravo
Oh, she does have a little booty.
unidentified
Oh, that's her, bro.
joe rogan
That's her.
brendan schaub
No, no, that's not.
That's that swimsuit model.
joe rogan
But!
unidentified
Yeah, that's not her.
brendan schaub
That's not her?
That's her!
ian mccall
That's the one from Santa Cruz.
joe rogan
Stop ruining everything that's good in the world.
unidentified
Who's the pregnant girl on time?
brendan schaub
Sarah?
ian mccall
That's her?
joe rogan
I wouldn't have any problems with that booty.
That's a good booty.
eddie bravo
How about right there with the blue pants?
joe rogan
Who's got the best ass ever?
Has that ever been established?
eddie bravo
Vida Guerrero.
unidentified
Dude.
How many people know that?
joe rogan
She used to be the booty girl before the Instagram days.
eddie bravo
She was during MySpace, she crushed it.
joe rogan
Does she still have an Instagram?
brendan schaub
Yes.
She's 42 now, but still dime-pieced out.
unidentified
42?
brendan schaub
42. Look at her booty.
joe rogan
Oh, good lord.
Okay, she wins.
She just won.
brendan schaub
You weren't ready for that.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
You boys weren't ready.
joe rogan
That's insane.
Isn't it amazing that the shape is worth so much more?
brendan schaub
She lives in L.A. too.
joe rogan
Like having a big ass and having shape like that to your ass.
ian mccall
Now they all have fake asses.
It's weird.
eddie bravo
No, fake asses I will not accept.
brendan schaub
See, I'm not bad at a fake ass.
Really?
Not at all.
unidentified
I'm angry at fake asses.
joe rogan
You're like, I gotta take this wing off.
I don't care if it protects me.
This shit don't make me look good, bro.
unidentified
No way.
joe rogan
Look at that ass.
brendan schaub
I don't want the implants, but when they put the cellulite injects into the ass...
unidentified
Still.
joe rogan
Have you felt one?
eddie bravo
I saw what they look like.
It looks horrible.
Nah.
The ass has to be natural.
joe rogan
You know what?
brendan schaub
You've been out of the game too long, Eddie.
unidentified
No, no.
eddie bravo
You know what?
It's really simple.
joe rogan
You just stick with athletes.
brendan schaub
You boys are out of the game.
eddie bravo
You stick with athletic chicks.
That's it.
If you're not athletic...
brendan schaub
It's like two backup quarterbacks.
I'm out of play.
eddie bravo
Look at that.
That's not a fake ass.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
That's all real.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know what?
You're out of your mind.
You're out of your mind, Schwab.
Fake is not as good.
eddie bravo
No need to fake it.
All you have to do is squat.
Tits, you have to fake it sometimes.
There's nothing you can do.
But asses!
ian mccall
You can build.
eddie bravo
You just squat!
brendan schaub
That's your new lifestyle.
It doesn't matter.
eddie bravo
It's your new lifestyle.
Squat and ice skate.
brendan schaub
And carbs.
eddie bravo
And ice skate.
joe rogan
Ice skate.
eddie bravo
Go ice skating!
Bitches love ice skating!
joe rogan
How easy is that?
eddie bravo
Go ice skate!
ian mccall
That's a new meme!
unidentified
Bitches love ice skating!
joe rogan
You should have a t-shirt that you sell.
It says Eddie Bravo like this.
With your mouth open, eyes blazing.
brendan schaub
Bitches love ice skating.
joe rogan
It's easy.
eddie bravo
Ice skate and squat.
Squat is hard, but once a week, no big deal.
brendan schaub
That is all genetics, my man.
eddie bravo
It is, it is, but you can change it.
joe rogan
You can improve upon it.
brendan schaub
You can tighten it.
You can tighten it.
eddie bravo
And you can make it rounder.
You take any chick, any flat ass chick who skipped PE class, who had ditching notes and never went, you take her at 23. Whatever that is.
You take her at 25. She realized she fucked up by fucking skipping PE class.
She realized, shit!
All them nerdy chicks that were playing soccer, now they're getting all the dudes.
But if they go to fucking Colorado, find the Olympic squat team, go do some squats for fucking two years, it'll make a big difference, trust me.
joe rogan
Right, but it ain't beat Vita Guerra.
You gotta be kissed by God.
brendan schaub
It's not being a Latin girl that's like, what?
eddie bravo
You might have to inject some steroids into that ass.
Right into the ass.
Right into the ass.
Right into both cheeks every day.
And then squat, squat, squat.
Squat, squat, squat.
Squat, squat, squat.
Three years, you're going to see a big difference.
joe rogan
And she's going to have a dick that she can drop on your forehead while she rides your face.
unidentified
That's a different problem.
joe rogan
Let me just rest this right here.
eddie bravo
That's a different problem.
ian mccall
It's called surgery.
brendan schaub
Go to Brazil.
It's in the water, man.
eddie bravo
They have to walk up and touch guards.
unidentified
Pamela Anderson right now.
jamie vernon
She's in this new short film that just showed up online the other day.
eddie bravo
That's Pamela Anderson?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is it?
jamie vernon
She's playing a character or something, but that's what she looks like now.
joe rogan
Oh, this is that new film that's supposed to be really strange.
They did a piece on it.
Was it one of those online things that a piece on it?
A lot of it is her wearing no makeup, and it's pretty gritty and real.
eddie bravo
Whoa.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a hard world, man.
It's interesting what these girls become, like, because they go from being the hottest thing in the world where everybody wants to fuck them to being, like, you know, an older lady.
ian mccall
Look what they can do to you.
eddie bravo
Everybody goes through it, dude.
brendan schaub
No, but women especially.
Women especially, man.
In entertainment, it's a motherfucker.
eddie bravo
Especially Pamela Anderson, for sure.
brendan schaub
Karma Electra, all All these beautiful actresses.
eddie bravo
I remember when I moved from Orange County to Hollywood, I thought, what am I going to bring?
And I brought a couple porno mags.
I was 21, and I didn't know who Pamela Anderson was.
I didn't know who she was.
It was 1991. She was on the cover of Playboy.
I'm like, I'm bringing this motherfucking one.
I don't know who that girl is.
I never looked her name up.
Turns out she was Pamela Anderson.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this.
She's like walking along the beach.
brendan schaub
Dude, that's Venice, son.
joe rogan
Hot young girls in their little skimpy things, and they've got her like...
Very little makeup on.
eddie bravo
And she had a great life.
brendan schaub
How old is she now?
eddie bravo
She had a great life.
joe rogan
Yeah, but look at the big sigh.
She's looking at these girls.
brendan schaub
Dude, and she's drinking juices and shit to look young?
This is bumming me out, Jamie.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Incense.
brendan schaub
Incense and trying to get her mind right.
joe rogan
Yoga.
Namaste.
eddie bravo
She's still got good hair.
joe rogan
She's a pretty girl.
But it's just...
When that's your whole world.
ian mccall
Never had kids, no cats.
brendan schaub
Smoking.
eddie bravo
No, she has two sons.
unidentified
I like how when they show her smoking weed.
eddie bravo
They're like 22 and shit.
brendan schaub
I'm still not mad at them.
joe rogan
They party with Tommy Lee.
eddie bravo
Tommy Lee parties with them.
joe rogan
I like how when they show her smoking weed, she's like sitting down.
Like it's over.
She's like crumpled.
brendan schaub
Dude, that was a bummer.
eddie bravo
Dude, you know what?
I met Pam Anderson once.
Her brother's an old friend of mine, and we were doing some work together, whatever.
She lived in Malibu at the height of Pam Anderson.
She was dating...
It was after Tommy Lee, but she was dating Marcus Schenkenberg.
brendan schaub
He was a supermodel, 6'5", and me and her brother were in the back smoking weed, and he comes back and goes, Hey, do you mind if I have a couple tokes of that weed?
eddie bravo
So we're sitting back, and I'll never forget thinking...
This guy, I would never have my girl around this motherfucker.
I was so blown away.
I'm like, holy shit.
brendan schaub
He's a dime piece?
eddie bravo
Dude, 6'5".
Alan Juban would be scared of this motherfucker.
unidentified
Easy.
brendan schaub
6'5".
Alan can fight, though.
eddie bravo
Marcus Schenkenberg.
unidentified
Dude, I was intimidated.
joe rogan
When you bust out that speed of shots, that's the gayest picture that anybody's ever taken without a dick in their mouth.
unidentified
I smoked weed with that guy and I was like, holy shit, this guy is intimidating.
eddie bravo
It's tough.
brendan schaub
No, no, he's too gay looking.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's too pretty.
One of the gays.
brendan schaub
Alan fucks that dude up.
eddie bravo
No, come on!
unidentified
No way!
joe rogan
The gold underwear, bro.
eddie bravo
I love Alan to death.
You know that.
brendan schaub
Dude, modeling for me.
Modeling shot?
Alan beats him.
eddie bravo
Come on.
joe rogan
He's a handsome guy, no doubt about it.
eddie bravo
That's 6'5".
brendan schaub
Nah, he looks too like...
joe rogan
He's a handsome fella.
He just got his top with the gold underwear.
brendan schaub
He looks like too big.
eddie bravo
Think about this.
He got Pamela Anderson in her prime.
brendan schaub
Welcome to the club.
joe rogan
Congratulations.
brendan schaub
Welcome to the club.
joe rogan
You also probably got a lot of things that she was carrying along with her.
ian mccall
Tommy Lee gave her.
joe rogan
Come on.
ian mccall
Tommy Lee said, here's the list.
There you go.
brendan schaub
How old is she?
50-something now?
joe rogan
Nah, she's probably like close to 50. You seen Cindy Crawford?
Hot as fuck.
ian mccall
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Let's see what Cindy Crawford looks like right now.
joe rogan
I saw her in person at a party less than a year ago.
She's beautiful.
brendan schaub
I saw her six months ago at Santa Monica.
I can't remember the last time I looked at a girl and was like, she takes care of herself.
joe rogan
She takes care of herself.
She's not self-destructive.
You know, and she's been smart.
brendan schaub
National treasure.
joe rogan
She's been smart about her health.
eddie bravo
She got that skim cream.
That shit got me.
joe rogan
Dude, Christy Brinkley's 60 fucking two years old.
eddie bravo
That's a far shot.
We need a close shot.
joe rogan
Listen to me, man.
I met her.
I was talking to her for a long time.
brendan schaub
I've seen her in person.
eddie bravo
It was a dark party.
brendan schaub
No, she's outside in the daytime.
I saw her in daytime, Santa Monica.
joe rogan
What the fuck you're talking about, bitch?
eddie bravo
Show me some proof.
joe rogan
It was in light, light, light time.
eddie bravo
Look at that one right there.
joe rogan
How dare you?
brendan schaub
Dude, she's 50, Eddie.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
eddie bravo
You know what?
joe rogan
Christy Brinkley's just as hot.
She's a decade older.
How about that?
eddie bravo
I used to have a picture of Cindy Crawford, a poster of Cindy Crawford up in my room.
That was like my inspiration.
I was like, fuck!
brendan schaub
Inspiration.
eddie bravo
Yeah, like, I'm like...
joe rogan
That's why it all didn't work out.
unidentified
Exactly!
Inspiration!
brendan schaub
You mean you just wanted to fuck her?
joe rogan
It's gotta work out.
brendan schaub
One day I will fuck her.
eddie bravo
One day I will get her.
joe rogan
It never worked out.
brendan schaub
It never worked out.
Didn't work out.
joe rogan
That's the girl, bro.
unidentified
I gotta get her.
eddie bravo
But it kept me on my toes.
That's the one.
joe rogan
Well, that's one thing.
But you look at Christie Brinkley.
They took a picture of her recently.
She was 62 in New York.
And she looks like she's a really hot 34-year-old.
brendan schaub
She might have found that shit you're talking about, that technology.
She's a dying piece.
joe rogan
She's probably doing every trick in the book, but the right way.
eddie bravo
Papaya juice, she puts it in her fucking skin cream.
Look into her skin cream.
She's trying to tell everybody.
She's telling everybody, this is how I stay young.
I put some papaya juice on my face.
joe rogan
She's not going to tell those young bitches how she's doing it.
eddie bravo
No, no, no.
She has infomercials.
She sells the shit.
Cindy Crawford skin cream.
joe rogan
She's 62. That's not a good picture.
There's a better picture between me.
brendan schaub
That's a pretty good one.
eddie bravo
That's her when she's dirty.
joe rogan
There's a picture of her on her 62nd birthday.
brendan schaub
That's from Instagram when she's old as fuck.
joe rogan
There's a really recent picture.
It's like Christy Brinkley on her 62nd birthday and she's like in a car.
And you look at her and you go, what?
How is that possible?
I mean, there's a lot of them.
Either way, they all look good.
You're not going to find one where she looks bad, which is really crazy.
But that's her, you know...
eddie bravo
Sixty-two!
Damn!
joe rogan
She's hot as fuck, look.
eddie bravo
Sixty-fucking-two!
Holy shit!
She must work out all day.
brendan schaub
Or not.
joe rogan
Or something.
Could be genes.
It could be...
She knows how to keep it together.
She's the right doctor.
brendan schaub
Crazy doc.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Who knows?
eddie bravo
What do you think it is?
joe rogan
She would call this bitch?
eddie bravo
Exercise?
joe rogan
Let's call this bitch.
eddie bravo
Veganism?
Is it...
Definitely not that.
No, it's genetics.
brendan schaub
Genetics.
eddie bravo
Maybe there's something to veganism.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I've never seen that anyone looks really good at a late age that's saying that that's the only way to do it.
There's nobody out there?
The thing that a healthy, balanced diet is certainly the way to stay at least in a reasonably good condition, but then you've got to find the right...
Amount of amino acids and the right amount of vitamins.
brendan schaub
Would it depend on the person?
eddie bravo
Was Helio a vegan?
ian mccall
Each body's different.
unidentified
Do you know that?
eddie bravo
Was he a vegan?
joe rogan
No, no.
eddie bravo
Vegetarian?
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
Helio?
joe rogan
No.
He ate fish.
He ate meat.
eddie bravo
He ate red meat?
joe rogan
He had his own farm.
He made his own cheese.
eddie bravo
He lived in his 90s and he was healthy.
He was doing arm bars to 93. See, I don't know.
ian mccall
I heard a conspiracy about them doing Weekend at Bernie's with him.
No way.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
brendan schaub
I was like, damn, bro.
eddie bravo
Come on, man.
brendan schaub
How dare you.
eddie bravo
How dare you.
ian mccall
Gotcha.
Sorry, Gracie.
joe rogan
He ate really healthy, though.
eddie bravo
No, dude, he died in his 90s, which is way above average.
The average age of Americans is 75. He also worked out nonstop.
brendan schaub
He lived 20 years past the average, and he was still like, you know, you see him in interviews, he's old.
ian mccall
It's got to be physical exertion.
eddie bravo
It looked like his brain was still intact, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
There's something to that Gracie diet, man.
joe rogan
Well, it's certainly always smart to watch what you're eating and making sure you get a lot of healthy foods.
And he wasn't into anything processed, any bullshit.
brendan schaub
No alcohol.
joe rogan
And the Gracie diet, yeah, no alcohol.
The Gracie diet's real interesting because the idea behind it is that you make different enzymes for different things.
Like you would never eat meat with like watermelon.
brendan schaub
You don't mix certain foods.
joe rogan
You don't mix certain foods.
And apparently it makes a lot of sense.
I don't know who came up with it, though.
I don't know who was the originator of that diet.
Was it Carlos?
eddie bravo
Maybe it was Carlos.
brendan schaub
Carlos was super into spiritual channeling and all sorts of astrology.
Heron and Hedder follow it to a team.
eddie bravo
They're way into it, yeah.
There's something to that.
brendan schaub
Hedder eats acai every single night for dinner.
They're doing something every single night.
Like a big-ass bowl of acai.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
brendan schaub
With like granola and flax seed and all sorts of stuff.
joe rogan
Well, those videos that he used to make about how to make juices and all these different things.
brendan schaub
That energy sandwich.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, eating healthy is fucking super important.
I mean, that's that stupid old cliche that everybody hates, but you are what you eat.
You are literally what you eat.
Your body's made out of all the nutrients that you put in it, all the food that you take in.
If you eat shitty food, your body has shitty materials to work with.
It's really that simple.
If you're not healthy and you're eating shitty food, the first thing you should do is stop eating shitty food.
brendan schaub
It tastes so good though, doesn't it?
So good.
Motherfucker.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
And two weeks into no shit, I've had no shit at all.
brendan schaub
You feel good?
ian mccall
How's that going?
joe rogan
It changes your appetite.
brendan schaub
Your face looks skinnier.
Do you feel like it?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm losing weight.
I lost eight pounds.
eddie bravo
What do you weigh now?
194. Is it like 198?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, 194 for real.
No, I lost eight pounds.
I lost four pounds a week.
eddie bravo
What was the most you've weighed recently?
joe rogan
I got...
brendan schaub
205?
joe rogan
When I hurt my back, I got up to like 205. Maybe even a little heavier than that.
I got pretty fat, though.
I had a good belly.
A good, like, side belly.
brendan schaub
There's nothing worse.
joe rogan
I felt gross.
I would catch myself in the mirror and go, Ew, no more eating for you, you fuck.
You know, it got to...
Well, when my back was really hurt and it was really tough to work out, there was definitely some...
Some time to pack on the weight.
But as soon as I start working out again, your body's got muscle memory.
If you don't, torture it with shitty food.
But this diet's different, man, because the idea behind it is that your body starts going into fat-burning mode instead of glucose-burning mode.
And if you can do that, what happens is, what's weird, this is one of the weirdest parts about it, is in between meals, I don't get really that hungry.
I don't get the same kind of hungry.
When you're on glucose, your body crashes, your sugar gets low.
brendan schaub
Ups and downs.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that crash, you get fucking starving.
You get desperado for food.
brendan schaub
How long did that take you to get there, though?
joe rogan
Took a while.
brendan schaub
Like 10 days?
eddie bravo
Six weeks.
joe rogan
The workouts suck some fat dicks.
For like the first week.
brendan schaub
I told you who's been doing that diet for literally three or four years is Tebow.
He's shredded.
joe rogan
He swears by it.
unidentified
Big.
joe rogan
Kyle Kingsbury's on it.
eddie bravo
Denver quarterback guy?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Kyle Kingsbury was raving about it, and he's one of the guys that got me convinced that this is definitely the way to go.
brendan schaub
Do you think it's only for certain people?
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Kingsbury is super shredded.
unidentified
Shredded.
joe rogan
He's a smart motherfucker, man.
brendan schaub
I've always liked that guy.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
Kingsbury can easily do his own podcast, and I hope he does.
Did he ever get a hold of you, Jamie?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah?
You guys working it out?
brendan schaub
He married the ring card girl, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, Natasha.
They have babies?
brendan schaub
Beautiful family.
He's doing the damn thing.
joe rogan
He's an awesome dude.
He couldn't have been a nicer guy.
And he knows a lot about health and nutrition.
He knows a lot about a lot of shit.
Kyle Kingsbury's a smart dude.
ian mccall
Got that little ketone meter and everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He did it with me, but it didn't work that way.
brendan schaub
You know what?
He's up there for top ten most shredded UFC fighters.
Especially for how big he was.
He was...
joe rogan
Jacked.
Well, he's only been on that ketogenic diet, I think, for this past year, some months, but he's always been super healthy, always a real good athlete.
brendan schaub
He just played football at ASU, that's right.
joe rogan
Got into MMA way, way late.
How old?
I think 26, is that what he said, Jamie?
I don't remember.
Late enough to be like...
brendan schaub
Around the same time as I got it at 24. Yeah.
eddie bravo
You know what's also interesting about him?
I don't want to talk about it.
I don't want to discuss it.
I want to move on.
joe rogan
It's beautiful.
eddie bravo
But what's interesting about him is he's anti-vaccine.
Let's move on.
Let's move on.
ian mccall
Alright, please.
unidentified
Let's move on.
joe rogan
Let's go.
unidentified
Vaccines.
Let's move on.
brendan schaub
My kid just got vaccines.
joe rogan
All of them?
brendan schaub
Not all of them.
joe rogan
Yeah, be careful.
eddie bravo
Did he get the Hep B one?
joe rogan
You definitely want to get your kid vaccinated, 100%.
There's many different doctors that prescribe many what they believe are more conservative protocols.
And there's a lot of doctors, again, doctors, who are leaning towards that because they feel like it gives your baby time to recover from the vaccines.
It's not...
Questioning the efficacy of vaccines, it's saying that there might be some debate as to how many you stack, like how many you put together.
brendan schaub
They just gave them one shot.
eddie bravo
So you're saying there's a possibility that if you crunch them in together that there could be problems because there's too much of the baby to take?
joe rogan
There's a vaccine court, okay?
And if you Google it, Find out how much money has been paid off by people that took vaccines and got injured or ill.
Kids, babies that had issues because of vaccines.
Shit.
It definitely has existed.
brendan schaub
Is that low percent though?
joe rogan
It's also, you have to deal with how many numbers of people.
You're talking about 300 million people.
And you know how many of those people are allergic to walnuts?
How many of those people, if they get around cats, they could die?
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're the exception, yeah.
joe rogan
But that is the exception also.
Biodiversity is a real thing.
The same medicine that they give you and you'd be fine, they could give me and I could get deathly ill.
That's a natural fact of being a human being.
And that's something that people don't exactly factor in when they start talking about vaccines.
Everybody thinks that it's either some crazy government conspiracy to make everybody retarded, or it's something that you have to do or we're all going to die.
brendan schaub
Well, what about the CDC study from 2004 that they had to do a study, the CDC, to make sure that the MMR vaccine didn't, there wasn't autism links.
eddie bravo
There was three doctors that were in charge of that study.
So when the results showed initially that there were no links to autism.
With the MMR vaccine.
brendan schaub
But years later, and it's happening right now, one of the doctors, Dr. William Thompson, he still works for the CDC. This is not a conspiracy theory.
eddie bravo
He said, we were told to put all links to autism from the MMR vaccine into the garbage.
Word for word, verbatim, into the garbage.
So this is actually happening right now.
So the studies...
joe rogan
Let's find that.
unidentified
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
Watch that.
Dr. William S. Thompson, MMR vaccine.
joe rogan
Is this a YouTube video?
eddie bravo
No, this is real, dude.
joe rogan
This is not fake.
YouTube videos are real.
eddie bravo
I'm not lying here.
joe rogan
It's on a YouTube video that I can watch.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
You're saying he said that, so there's a video of him?
eddie bravo
Oh, there's mad videos and mad literature.
brendan schaub
I don't know about vaccinations.
eddie bravo
No, that's actually true.
That's not a conspiracy theory.
unidentified
How about circumcision?
brendan schaub
You know, circumcision, they asked me today, do you want to circumcise your baby?
I said, yeah, I don't want to have that anteater dick.
You know what I'm saying?
$400.
joe rogan
Dude, baby's dicks, when you cut them like that, first of all, sometimes kids lose their dick.
Sometimes they get infections.
It's dangerous.
It doesn't always happen.
brendan schaub
Are you circumcised, too?
joe rogan
Yeah, but I didn't have a choice.
But if I had to choose today, I would say no.
brendan schaub
I'm on the fence.
joe rogan
Is your kid circumcised or not?
brendan schaub
No, no, no.
We have like three days to decide.
joe rogan
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
It's fucking mutilation.
It's a cultural thing, and people like the way it looks better.
You know, whatever, man.
You're mutilating your kid's dick.
The idea behind it is barbaric.
It's archaic.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
It's unnecessary surgery.
It's trauma.
You're cutting the kid's skin.
brendan schaub
You have an ant either?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
If he decides when he gets older to get circumcised, it's not hard to do.
People have done it like deep into their 30s.
You can do whatever you want.
brendan schaub
They tried telling me it's unhealthy.
joe rogan
He doesn't have the chance.
It's not true.
It's bullshit.
brendan schaub
I said God gave you that hood for a reason.
joe rogan
Congressman, a CDC whistleblower, and an autism tempest in a trash can.
brendan schaub
Damn, that's Forbes, son.
joe rogan
Hmm.
jamie vernon
I found a site that didn't seem like a legit one, so I tried to find something.
joe rogan
And is this saying what Eddie Ruther was saying?
Let's just pretend we forgot.
Let's talk about something else.
Figure out vaccines.
brendan schaub
Yeah, we gotta switch up the subject.
ian mccall
What else can we change?
joe rogan
If we go deep into the...
Take that down!
brendan schaub
Quick, take it down.
joe rogan
If we go deep into conspiracy theory rabbit hole, we're going to need to show booties.
brendan schaub
The whole podcast is fucked.
joe rogan
Or maybe like feet porn.
brendan schaub
Bring up Throatzilla.
Bring up Throatzilla.
joe rogan
We should get out of here.
brendan schaub
I ain't going to.
I gotta get up early in the morning.
ian mccall
Me too, brother.
joe rogan
Let's wrap this motherfucker up.
This was the most non-fight-oriented podcast ever.
brendan schaub
No, we covered some fight.
joe rogan
We barely covered the cowboy fight.
unidentified
True.
brendan schaub
Finally Kid coming to Denver and Irvine, live.
joe rogan
Oh, hey, look at that plug.
brendan schaub
Boom.
joe rogan
Where are you going?
brendan schaub
Denver and Irvine.
joe rogan
Denver and Irvine.
brendan schaub
Yes, sir.
joe rogan
What are you guys doing in Denver?
brendan schaub
March 18th and 19th.
joe rogan
What club?
What place?
brendan schaub
Comedy Works.
joe rogan
Comedy Works, beautiful.
brendan schaub
Tech Center.
joe rogan
Nice.
Nice.
brendan schaub
And then we're at the Irvine Improv, March 16th.
joe rogan
Nice.
Fighterandthekid.com.
brendan schaub
tfatk.com.
joe rogan
tfatk.com.
Eddie Bravo on Twitter.
Uncle Creepy.
Uncle Creepy?
Uncle Creepy.
Creepy now with a shoulder problem.
unidentified
Uncle Creepy MMA. I'm helping open a cryotherapy place.
ian mccall
We're going to have cryotherapy and hyperbaric chambers in Lake Forest.
eddie bravo
Well, there you go.
Fuck the podcast.
There you go.
Let's fire it up.
ian mccall
Let's fire that podcast up.
March 15th in Lake Forest, California.
It's a therapy cryo salon.
joe rogan
Let us know.
We'll tweet the shit out of that.
Yeah, definitely you need to have your own podcast.
ian mccall
Who wants to listen to me talk too much?
unidentified
I do.
joe rogan
I like it.
Alright, that's it.
Goodnight, everybody.
Oh, Jamie Vernon.
Shout out to Jamie Vernon on Twitter.
brendan schaub
The best.
joe rogan
Powerful, powerful young Jamie.
brendan schaub
Someone get me and Jamie some Yeezys.
joe rogan
We'll be back tomorrow with Action Bronson.
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
No way!
joe rogan
Yeah, that's right.
unidentified
What?
eddie bravo
What's Action Bronson?
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