Gary Clark Jr., blending blues, hip-hop, and psychedelic influences, discusses his self-taught guitar mastery since 1996—inspired by Eve Monce and Austin City Limits—and his experimental solo album, rejecting comparisons to Jimi Hendrix while critiquing the 2018 biopic’s lack of original music. They pivot to martial arts, where Clark Jr. admits stagnation but admires jiu-jitsu’s adaptability, like Husamar Palhares’ leg locks or Marcelo Garcia’s back-takes, mirroring Joe Rogan’s emphasis on skill over flashy talent. Rogan’s hunting tales—feral Texas boars weighing 1,050 lbs and genetic parallels between wolves and chihuahuas—spark a broader debate on suppression, linking wild pig evasion to psychedelic prohibition and NASCAR’s rebellious roots. Clark Jr. closes by teasing his Grammy tribute to B.B. King on February 15th with Chris Stapleton and Bonnie Raitt, underscoring how art thrives despite systemic constraints. [Automatically generated summary]
So what made you move from Austin, which is like one of the best spots in the world, if you could pull it off, to California, which is still one of the best spots in the world if you can pull it off, but so much more complex, so much more bullshit, so much more ego, so much more traffic, so much more...
I mean, coming from where I'm from in Austin, there's a city and there's nice land around it, so I like to jump back and forth and be involved in both, but I will not fuck with mountain lions.
I would have a bite-proof suit, and then I would want a big-ass knife strapped to my thigh, so if a shark did bite me and it didn't get through, I'd just fucking fight in his head!
I didn't take lessons formally, like I didn't pay anybody for lessons.
I probably should at this point.
But my friend of mine, Eve Monce, she had a guitar and she had a band and she...
Her and her band would practice all the time, so I would hear them.
So I would go over there and check it out and I would take my guitar and she would show me, you know, like a 12-bar blues, kind of like a Jimmy Reed shuffle type thing or like a...
You know, power chord, rock and roll thing, whatever.
So that was kind of how I first started.
And I rented books.
I went to the school library, my middle school library, and just rented, like, how to play guitar.
I think the thing for me was I mean I love music and I mean the guitar for me was the instrument that could it could Paint so many different colors.
It was very versatile.
It could be loud, aggressive, or it could be sweet, beautiful.
I just thought if I could get my hands on one of those, I would try and push it to the limit and really figure out You just play with the full spectrum.
It's different than playing an electric guitar.
For me, there were more options than playing drums or trumpet or something.
I spent a lot of my time, yeah, you should stay in school, kids, but I spent a lot of time showing up to that building and then immediately turning back around and going and doing what interests me.
Like, that car is such a, I'm getting it to look cool car, that it's not even yours, and they used it for you in a music video to make you look badass.
Like, if you were going way out of your way to own that car, but it was breaking down all the time, and it was fucking up, that would be kind of silly.
Well, yeah, I was telling Jamie when I came in here, I was like...
Before I recorded my first album, On the major black and blue.
I was living in Texas and I had a live room where I had drums, keys, bass, rig, guitar all set up.
In another room I had my turntables, drum machines, keyboards all like putting...
going to this Pro Tools session.
So I was just making demos and sampling records and just kind of doing whatever I wanted to do.
So for this latest record, I just kind of wanted to get back into that space and experiment and vibe and challenge myself musically.
Just playing out on the road every night or whatever for a few years, kind of playing the same songs and trying to bring new life for those in a certain way was different than...
I felt like I was kind of stagnant, like I wasn't playing drums like I was every day.
I wasn't playing bass like I was.
I want to be a musician.
I want to be an all-around musician and push it to the limit.
So for this latest record, I just was able to do that and spend a lot of time.
So yeah, it does sound different.
It's all me playing most of the instruments as opposed to the last one was a band.
Because I don't want to get down some rabbit hole that I can't prove, but this guy who was a musician himself, he was with The Animals, I believe.
You know, what was that one hit song they had?
I forget the song, but he was actually a musician himself, and it didn't work out for him, and he started working as a bodyguard for Hendrix and working with this manager character who was apparently universally known as a really bad guy, like real shady.
Back in the day of music, you were dealing with a lot of mob characters, right?
A lot of organized crime characters, a lot of creepy people, a lot of dangerous people like Phil Spector, that crazy fuck.
And if you don't know who Phil Spector is, you'll Google him and you'll go, well, how come his hair looks like this in one picture and his hair like that?
He wore a bunch of crazy wigs when he got arrested for shooting a woman in the mouth just a few years ago and killing her.
He picked up some woman at a bar on Sunset, took her back to his mansion and shot her in the mouth.
Yeah, he was crazy.
But that guy was famous for, like, putting guns in people's mouths.
He was famous for pulling guns on people.
And apparently was just...
A big part of the music business back then was organized crime and just dangerous people with ties to organized crime.
And this guy who managed Hendrix, Hendrix apparently wanted to leave him.
And as he was on his way out, that's when this guy had Hendrix kidnapped.
This is what they are alleging in the book.
And I believe it's been confirmed that Hendrix was kidnapped and this guy did get him rescued.
The idea is he had him kidnapped so he could rescue him.
Yeah, like, uh, speaking of Cadillacs and stuff, I used to, you know, drive around, and I don't know if y'all got, like, the chopped and screwed stuff, but, like, I used to listen to DJ Screw, and, um...
Which, by the way, if you use that, kill yourself.
If you're even thinking about going down on a girl and you have to throw a fucking tarp over it first, you've made some terrible choices and you're probably never going to recover.
Well, it's getting closer and closer to being legal, man.
I mean, they just released some new financial stats on the amount of money that they're making off medical marijuana.
If they can really establish that this is a nationwide way that people can make a ton of money off taxes and Turn economies around like they have in Denver.
And once that sort of sets in that we've been lied to about that, and then all these new studies are coming out about the benefits of different psychedelics for PTSD... John Hopkins did a long-term study on psilocybin.
They're doing new studies on psilocybin with people that are terminally ill and people that are they're getting towards the end of life you know older folks and it's just an alleviated tension the worry and fear of death and in a beautiful way and then they'll realize like hey you know we can profit off this shit like this is this is more money that can be generated from To help the school systems,
to fix the roads, to hire new cops, to change the way, you know, we address and interface with these things and stop criminalizing them.
I'm not as educated on all that as I would like to be, but I feel like, you know, once that door gets opened up, it'd be a lot more beneficial than it is, he said, to be You know, hurting.
The right crowd, you know, the ones your mom probably told you should hang out with, they're on fucking antidepressants right now, freaking out.
Hitting midlife, wondering what the fuck they're doing with themselves, having children, being trapped in some job where they're, you know, most likely, the people that go the way that everybody wanted us to go, whether it's a lawyer or a successful businessman, they're stressed the fuck out, working long crazy hours.
I mean, I feel like regardless of or despite the...
The tension that I had, I mean, I grew up kind of like very strict, very, you know, I was raised like Baptist, you know, very straight, very strict family, military.
So any of that was, you know, completely taboo.
And I would, that would be my ass if they found out anything about it.
But for some reason, I felt like I wanted to break out and And discover on my own, you know what I mean?
And not be locked into what was just laid out for me.
I think that every generation gathers up the information of how the previous generation fucked up.
And as long as there's no cataclysmic disasters and we're not living in Mad Max times where it's like desperado days and everyone's fending for themselves and it's just about survival, then things just keep getting better.
I've actually been talking about this on stage recently because I'm actually kind of freaked out about it.
That we're gonna enter a world within the next hundred years where artificial reality is indistinguishable from regular reality.
It's the matrix.
It's 100% going to happen.
If we don't blow ourselves up, if we don't die from disease, if we don't get hit by an asteroid, we're going to be able to figure out a way to trick the mind into thinking it's experiencing things that it's not experiencing.
How long it takes is just subjective, but whatever the amount of time it is in the history of the universe or the history of this planet, it's a blink.
And in one blink, you're not going to be able to tell whether reality is real or not.
You're going to be able to plug into something, and you're going to be able to have artificial experiences.
When scientists study artificial reality, and they study what they call computer simulation theory, the real mindfuck is, it's hard to tell whether or not this is a simulation.
And that it's very likely that it could be that our entire universe could be some sort of a massive simulation that we're experiencing.
It might not even be like a computer simulation.
It might be some sort of a simulation that's going on like at a cellular level, like some sort of a mass hallucination.
Because me, on a much lesser scale, I'm not a professional pool player, but when I watch someone in a movie and I know they can't really play pool, it's very obvious.
You see the way a guy's holding a stick, the way the stick moves in their arm.
It's like, have you ever seen someone hold a cigarette that doesn't really smoke?
And you can tell.
Like, a smoker can tell almost immediately when someone doesn't actually smoke.
Or at least someone who is not aware of how people who smoke smoke.
I'm sure an actor can figure out how to smoke like a smoker a lot easier than someone who can figure out how to play guitar and mimic it.
I know, but I just, I mean, I was a kid, so I, you know, I loved that.
Speaking of being inspired, man, you know, one of my favorite things that I love to do, which I haven't done in a while, was, you know, catch up and watch the UFC, you know, and get into that.
And I was sitting around and Starting to kind of feel like a piece of shit drinking too much and whatever and so I was you know looking at these guys you know training and doing what they do so it kind of inspired me to get on my bike and get the heavy bag and get on the weights and do my thing and I was really into it I haven't been been keeping up for a while and I kind of got the gut to show it and I'm working on it I need to get back on my game is what I'm saying.
The reality is there's different styles of jiu-jitsu that are great for every build.
And when I say different styles, I mean different approaches.
Jiu-jitsu is so broad.
There's so many different techniques and so many different strategies and so many different moves and counter moves that your build is perfect for jiu-jitsu.
You're long and tall.
You have long arms and long legs.
And you can catch people in chokes that a stubby little dude like me can't.
Because I have short arms and short legs, you know?
But different builds like mine are better for certain positions.
There's this guy, Husamar Palhares, who's like me but more exaggerated.
He's way thicker and more muscular and he just tears people's legs apart.
He's a leg lock specialist.
And there's a lot of other guys that are smaller that are really fast and they're good at taking people's backs like Marcelo Garcia.
But there's a lot of tall guys in jiu-jitsu.
There's definitely an advantage.
There's an advantage of leverage, just mechanical leverage from having long limbs.
It's good for striking, too, though, man.
It's good for learning striking arts.
If I had to say, if there's one build that has the most definitive advantages, I would say tall and long, because it's harder to hit you because you're further away from me, you could hit me in a place where I can't hit you.
So there's eight extra inches between, like, your head and my head, which may or may not translate as far as, like, how long your arms are, how long your legs are, but definitely there's at least a few inches of advantage.
Which means, like, if we were both throwing punches at the same time, you would hit me before I would hit you, and I probably would never hit you because of that.
Because you would hit me, like, as I was throwing a punch and I'd get fucked up, Like, that's a big advantage.
Like, Jon Jones, the UFC former light heavyweight champion, he's, like, the best at using, because he's a big, tall dude, and he's the best at, like, using that advantage.
It's one of the best advantages of being long and tall.
It's setting up an attack that either the person couldn't anticipate or couldn't figure out what to do in time.
And then it locks in.
And then once it locks in, you're like, oh, it's beautiful.
It's like a painting or a work of art or a masterful guitar solo or any of those things.
Art is...
Your dedication and your focus and then the expression and the results of that dedication and focus in a way where, like, if I watch someone pull off a move that I don't know how to do, it's particularly beautiful to me because I'm like, oh, shit, look how he did that.
Like, there's certain moves that I'll have to replay, like, over and over and over again.
Like, I'll watch...
Certain setups like over and over and over again till I get it into my head and And I didn't this so many different ways to move the body that there's a lot of like I've been doing jujitsu since 1996 and there's still a bunch of moves that I don't know I don't understand and I have to go.
Oh, how did he do that?
How did he do that?
But today like we're talking about like with Google we're so lucky that we could just go to YouTube videos and One of the beautiful things about jujitsu is It used to be that martial arts were like a secret.
This is the secret death touch!
And nobody would tell you that secret death touch, but it didn't exist.
It was bullshit.
The reality of jujitsu is almost every move people are dying to explain to people because people love learning new shit.
People that are jujitsu artists love learning new stuff, so people that are jujitsu artists that have a new move love to put that move online.
It's a big part of the community.
A huge part of the community is sharing and openness.
So, like, everybody does seminars, and everybody teaches everybody everything.
But in the early days, it wasn't like that.
Even the early days of jiu-jitsu.
What happened was, in 1993, when the UFC was created, people first started to see jiu-jitsu.
And they were like, what the fuck?
But there was a lot of moves, like triangles, and things along those lines.
Where I had friends that would take classes at certain schools, and they would say, hey, you know, Hoist Gracie tapped out Dan Severin with a triangle.
How do I do that?
And the teacher was like, you're not ready for that yet.
Like, I can't teach you that yet.
That's a black bell technique or that's a purple bell technique or whatever.
And they just, people like turned off to it.
And then they found other more unconventional, open-minded schools that immediately taught everybody everything.
And those are the schools that became prosperous.
Those schools were really successful.
And the schools that held people back, they never produced champions.
They never produced any, like, real notable jiu-jitsu players.
And the open-minded, like, experimental schools, those are the ones that blew up.
It's really interesting in that way.
Like, the free exchange of information overwhelmingly won out in the world of jiu-jitsu.
Well we all say it, but you know the reality of the actual winning of the game, right?
It's a personality thing.
Like sometimes people can get really far on a bullshit personality.
And a lot of bravado, and a lot of bragging, and a lot of false stories, and then the actual application in life is they've sort of skirted through with all the dance moves and all the personality.
But they don't have any real substance to it.
That doesn't work in Jiu-Jitsu, just like it doesn't really work in comedy.
Comedy-like personality accounts for a certain amount of the audience accepting you, but...
Ultimately, if your concepts aren't there and if you don't have a good setup, if you don't know how to deliver it in a way that people are going to easily enter into their mind and they're going to carry along, then it either works or it doesn't.
There's some parallel truths in that, in martial arts and in comedy in that way.
Well, all complex systems, whether it's music, writing, creating a movie, anything.
Complex things are fascinating to me, too, because I've never made a movie, but when I see CGI animators, I go watch this documentary on guys making animated scenes for films, like special effects scenes, and I think to myself, wow, that is fascinating.
They're creating an artificial world.
And inside that artificial world, they have these creatures moving and they have these people that have to put on these motion capture suits and go through the motions pretending they're interacting with these things that aren't even there.
And then someone has to piece it.
It's amazing to me.
It's amazing to me.
But I'm not going to do it.
I don't have any time.
But I look at that the same way I kind of look at music or the same way I look at writing or comedy or anything.
It's fascinating to me watching someone Go after something and put it together and make something that is almost unfathomable take place.
Whether it's the creation of an album, whether it's a comedy special, whether it's someone who writes an amazing book.
Well, as an artist, does that inspire you when you see, like if you go to see a great movie or read a great book or something like that, does that inspire you to want to create?
But I think I kind of know what my lane is at this point.
I try to stay in it.
But yeah, I'll definitely go see a movie or read and it'll get my creative juices flowing and inspire me to be To just be better and try and contribute.
You know what I mean?
Contribute something good or be positive and make myself feel something or make somebody else feel something.
I don't know.
It does something to me, definitely.
It's hard to describe.
I still can't describe what it is that makes this creative thing click or explain how I do what I do, but definitely seeing movies or hearing...
You know, great musicians, great guitar players, you know, it'll freak me out.
And I'll go, oh shit, my ego gets involved a little bit, you know what I mean?
And I'm like, this motherfucker.
But, you know, it's like, okay, I respect that.
Let me go get on my game and do my thing.
There's this guitar player down in Austin, Texas, who I haven't seen in a while.
And his name's Derrick O'Brien.
He's one of the greatest blues guitar players in the world.
Played, backed up Muddy Waters, Albert Collins, Albert King, everybody.
He's like in the house band at Anton's, this club.
I hadn't seen him in a while, so I go back home and, you know, I got my little reputation and, you know, people are like, oh, you know, this, that, that.
And I'm, you know, I'm like, all right.
I know my strengths and weaknesses, but I was feeling good about myself.
And then I got up on stage and let this, you know, this guy was just ripping it.
And I just, in that moment, I was like, fuck.
It's like, I ain't got shit on this guy, you know what I mean?
It was a nice reality check, so I immediately went back and started shedding, and I've been kind of doing it since.
Yeah, that's a beautiful thing about being around inspiring artists.
It's one of the cool things about being in a place like in LA or Nashville, or if you're a musician, if that's your style of music, or Austin, or anywhere where there's a good group Of people that are also doing the same thing.
It's like you use those people and they use you and everybody's like fuel for each other.
Yeah, in Austin, there's this spot every Sunday, they'll have a blues jam, you know.
So yeah, you would either go sit in with people that you don't know or haven't played with before or whatever and try out some new chords.
Maybe you learned something fancy like a transition chord to go from the One to the five on the turnaround and the slow blues, whatever, and the key to C, whatever.
So you go work that out.
Or you bring your squad.
I mean, me and my buddy Zapata, he plays in my band.
We would go up sometimes and know a drummer that kind of knew how we flowed and a bass player who could pick up on something.
Like, we got this new track.
We're about to fuck people up with this.
Either it would work or it wouldn't.
But yeah, there was those places.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's kind of the fuel, you know, to be in those spots and be around other players and get up and do their thing.
For you, when you create music, do you just get an idea?
What is the creation process from?
Does it vary?
Or is there a specific creation process from the moment you get an idea to putting it to paper or to remembering it and making a song and putting the beat to it and putting the sounds to it?
That's a real common thing that you said, that a lot of people say, that once they had a kid, they realized that their free time is actually precious.
So, because kids demand so much time, babies demand so much time, and you really don't have much, you start going, okay, the kid's asleep, let's get to work.
Because you have children than you did when you were free.
Because someone was making some stupid shit saying that saturated fats are terrible for you.
No, they're not.
They're not.
There's scientific studies that show saturated fats are actually healthy for you and important for you.
But people think that if you hunt or if you're involved somehow in animals, sometimes eating animals, that you're a cruel person.
You want to hurt animals.
You want to cause pain and suffering.
No.
I don't want to have anything to do with factory farming.
Because I don't want to be involved in that.
But...
The animals that I'm out hunting, if I don't get them, a wolf's getting them, or a coyote's getting them, or a mountain lion's getting them.
They're not living forever.
They have a very short window of time where they're alive.
If a deer makes it to six years old, that is a really old deer.
And most of them, they die long before that.
What I'm doing is I'm dipping my feet into that wild world.
And I'm pulling something out of it and that's where I get all my protein from or all my animal protein.
I love animals.
I think they're amazing.
I have cats at home.
I have dogs.
It's not a cruelty to animals thing and this is something that I used to think of, when I thought of hunters, I saw some television show where this hunter had a dog, and he's petting his dog.
I was like, how does this motherfucker differentiate between this dog and some deer?
He's going to shoot his lungs out.
That's kind of fucked up.
This guy's weird.
But then I got it.
The dog is a killer, too, man.
Life eats life.
And it's not a matter of being cruel.
It's a matter of sustainability and being alive.
Then there's the reality of hunting that not everybody can hunt.
Not everybody has the time.
Not everybody wants to, especially in the world that we've grown up in with cities.
Something that took me several years to sort of get into it and really understand what it's all about and educate myself.
And then once I did educate myself, one of the most compelling things was how...
Ignorant most people are about the facts of hunting, about the facts of wildlife, about wildlife management, and about just where their food comes from.
And even about how many animals die making grain.
When people say, you know, I only eat quinoa and fucking alfalfa.
Guess what?
That shit's getting chopped up in a combine, and it's chewing up bunnies and fawns and rats and mice and sparrows and ground-nesting birds and...
And you're removing the habitat when you're growing food like that for a lot of different wildlife.
The wildlife gets displaced, and the displaced wildlife wind up getting preyed on.
There's a lot of factors involved in gathering food.
And when we're living in cities, we're living in this bizarre, natural environment.
And when I say cities are a natural environment, they are a natural environment, because they're everywhere.
They're a natural environment for people.
Like anybody says, the cities aren't natural, man.
Well, how come there's so many of them?
Like, what is nature?
What is a beehive?
Is it a beehive nature?
A beehive is nature, right?
Well, that's a fucking bee city, okay?
They've created a city.
They know how to do it.
They do it everywhere.
That's the same goddamn thing people do.
We create these super complicated beehives, we call them cities, and we create them all over the world.
It's not like there's one city and we're like, what the fuck is that?
The cities are everywhere there are people.
When people figure shit out and they have electricity and they have agriculture, then they have surplus, And then they put up fucking walls and make buildings and then boom, we got a city.
And they're everywhere you look.
I think there's just some strange detachment from where our food comes from when it's shipped in in trucks all the time.
Education into the world of hunting a big part of it was like to try to figure out like I Try to figure out bizarre things like things that don't make sense to me I try to figure out I try to figure out all sorts of weird misconceptions and misunderstandings I this what fascinates me about people that are involved in cults so it fascinates me by people that have bad conceptions or bad thoughts about psychedelics that are untrue and People think that certain things are going to make you go crazy and lose your mind.
Well, why is that?
What makes people...
Oh, well, there's propaganda films from the 1930s.
Well, what started that?
Well, it was a guy named William Randolph Hearst who actually profited from marijuana being illegal.
Like, oh, okay.
And then you get...
I'm fascinated by shit like that.
So the food thing was always fascinating to me.
Like, how can we just go to a store and you get a piece of meat?
And we have no idea where the fuck this meat came from.
We literally just...
We don't even care.
We throw it in the supermarket, you know, throw it in the cart...
Go to the supermarket, give that guy a piece of plastic, he runs it through the machine, and you're out the door.
He's a convenient, moral, high ground asshole who's just trying to let everybody know he's better than you because most of the time he doesn't eat meat.
I mean, they have a whole business called hella hunting where they take people up in helicopters and they're shooting pigs because it's the only way to eradicate them from farms because there's so many of them.
And they do billions of dollars worth of damage just in Texas in crop destruction every year.
They're wild.
I mean, there's not enough mountain lions and there's no wolves to kill them.
The one who her husband, the chick who was fucking her brother in the Game of Thrones, the hot blonde lady, her husband died because he got killed by a pig.
This is a perspective shot, which is actually kind of important because that boy is way behind that thing.
He's not right next to it.
So if he's behind it by just six or seven feet and the camera's on the ground, they're shooting it at eye level, it makes it look a lot bigger than it really is.
That's how they do it.
But a thousand pounds is a fucking thousand pounds.
There's this girl, she works at this hat shop, and I walked in, and she's got this pet fucking pig, so I can just imagine that thing, like, getting loose for a couple of months, like, have you seen my...
and all domestic dogs we don't really know we there's a lot of speculation and they believe that wolves became friendly with people because we're feeding them and then they become more docile like there was a Radiolab podcast that talked about breeding foxes and within a decade they had killed they were breeding foxes and they would kill any fox that showed any sort of aggression or any and that there was trying to be dominant The growl at people, any unfavorable characteristics, they killed them.
And within 10 years, the genes changed to the point where all the foxes had droopy ears.
Their jaws became less masculine.
They became smaller.
Their behavior completely changed.
They all became like a domestic pet.
Within 10 years, they literally became a different thing.
And so the thought is...
That this is what happened with wolves.
And that wolves being around campfires with people, like primitive, primitive people, like tens and 20,000, 40,000 years ago, that we slowly but surely started having relationships with these animals where they would protect us from the other wolves because we would feed them.
And so they would become more docile and more dependent upon us.
So they would give in.
They would be...
Submissive to us.
And so their ears started to flop like a dog's ear.
And, you know, they became less aggressive.
They would respond to people.
You could train them and teach them to hunt with you because they got a reward out of being a part of the community of people.
And then you would raise them from the time they were puppies, and they'd be even more inclined to go like that.
So someone would find wolf puppies and raise them so they would imprint on people and be even more likely to exhibit those behaviors.
You know, I'm not saying that people purposely make dwarfs, but I'm saying that the physical characteristics, the differences in an English bulldog and a wolf And that's very, like, the difference between Carl Malone and Brad Williams.
I mean, those are both humans, and they both could impregnate the same woman.
Like, if a woman had a baby with Carl Malone, and then a woman had a baby with a dwarf, like, right afterwards, she still, I mean, she can get pregnant from both of them, and have a baby from both of them.
And potentially the same genetic characteristics could be passed down.
Less likely with the dwarf, but I mean, it's incredible when you think about the variation of human beings.
We can get a little tiny, like a 90-pound Asian lady, and then you can have Serena Williams, this super athlete with giant muscles and just ridiculous explosive ability.
Well, they're both female humans.
You know, it's sort of like a Golden Lab and a Rottweiler.
Those are both dogs, but they're massively different characteristics.
And that's why, like, really nutty conspiracy people believe that human beings are created by aliens, and that much in the same way that human beings engineered dogs and changed the shape and selectively bred them to the point where they became these little chihuahuas, That's what aliens did with human beings.
They came down, they found some chimpanzees and some lower hominids and started injecting their DNA into them and slowly but surely created a series of different styles of human being.
Well, because I'm thinking about all the times where I busted ass and, you know, I was just like walking across the street and I step into what I think is snow and it's like underneath is like a foot of water and, you know, I'm just walking around and, you know, I got one wet foot and I'm supposed to be going to some fucking event or something or go to dinner or do whatever.
I just, I can't, I can't do it.
I mean, I can, you know.
I don't want to sound like a pussy or anything, but I can't do it.
Well, when I started going on the road a lot in the 90s is when I really understood NASCAR. Like, I never got NASCAR. I'm like, who the fuck is watching this?
It's not that I didn't like car racing.
It's like, who the fuck is watching these people go around in a circle?
And then I would see how big it was.
I would read statistics.
I was like, bullshit.
These fucking statistics are all made up.
No one's watching this.
And then I did a radio station I want to say it was in Atlanta.
I don't remember where it was, but I remember it was in the South, and the guy was like, did you see the race this weekend?
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Man, Dale Jr. is really fucking putting it to them.