Feb. 7, 2016 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| They're the best jeans I've ever worn. | ||
| I don't want to get paid for them. | ||
| We live? | ||
| We live. | ||
| Ladies and motherfucking gentlemen, this is a fight companion podcast. | ||
| What that means is we're watching the fights. | ||
| This was supposed to be the heavyweight title fight, and that was supposed to be in Vegas. | ||
| It was supposed to be Fabrizio Verdun versus Cain Velasquez, but Cain Velasquez got hurt, and he pulled out of the fight, and then Stipe Miocic replaced him, and then Verdun said, well, I'm hurt too. | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| And he pulled out, because I guess he had a couple of injuries. | ||
| Smart move, I guess, if you're injured. | ||
| You know, he figured, fuck it, I'm just going to fight Cain no matter what, I guess. | ||
| And then when he found out it was Miocic, he's like, listen, I'm hurt. | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| Smart move. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because... | ||
| Let's explain what this is. | ||
| This is a Fight Companion podcast. | ||
| It's not a regular podcast. | ||
| So we're watching the fights, but honestly, it's almost never us watching the fights. | ||
| So if you're listening to this right now, you're like, I don't give a fuck about fights. | ||
| Most of the time, we don't either. | ||
| Eddie Bravo's here, my brother Eddie Bravo. | ||
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Yo, yo, yo. | |
| The greatest that ever did it. | ||
| What? | ||
| Holla! | ||
| Brian Callen, my dog, one of my favorite human beings on the planet, as well as my brother Brendan Schaub, also one of my favorite humans on the planet. | ||
| So these are my favorite podcasts, more than anything. | ||
| I look forward to these fucking things. | ||
| The best. | ||
| They're so much fun. | ||
| The best. | ||
| It's like we get to hang out and be ourselves. | ||
| We get to fuck around. | ||
| Just talk. | ||
| Just a couple dudes. | ||
| Just talking shit. | ||
| We get to bro out. | ||
| We're just bro out, guys. | ||
| Bro out for three hours. | ||
| Bro out unapologetically. | ||
| Have some fun. | ||
| Watch some fights. | ||
| Talk about what we eat. | ||
| Brian is going to try on his barbell jeans. | ||
| I got him some flexi jeans. | ||
| It's funny how guys don't change. | ||
| My son, I went hiking with him and all he was talking about for two days is, I want you to teach me how to chop down a tree. | ||
| He's obsessed. | ||
| I'm like, alright, but I need to chop a tree down. | ||
| So we go, and we go to the quote-unquote chop a tree down, and I get him a hatchet. | ||
| He hasn't put that hatchet down. | ||
| You give that kid any kind of a weapon. | ||
| My daughter looks at the hatchet like, maybe I can decorate it. | ||
| She wanted to put sparkles on the handle, and my son was like, what? | ||
| You know, what's interesting is that gay men can go one of two ways. | ||
| They can go towards, like, girly type stuff, or they can go just as manly. | ||
| You're talking about the beers, though. | ||
| Well, there's just not even beers. | ||
| It's like two different styles of gay men. | ||
| Like, I have a gay couple that lives on my street. | ||
| The nicest fucking dudes. | ||
| They're so nice. | ||
| And one of them is the man. | ||
| He's into trucks. | ||
| He makes all the cash. | ||
| You can break it down to... | ||
| We talk trucks, man. | ||
| You can break it down. | ||
| One fucks guys, and the other doesn't. | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how that works. | ||
| I don't get personal with them. | ||
| They're just the coolest motherfuckers. | ||
| I get the best neighbors. | ||
| I know a couple like that, and I get personal with them. | ||
| But then there's twinks, right? | ||
| Then there's like the twinks who are the super girly. | ||
| Then why would you want to just be with a girl? | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Or like the lesbians? | ||
| Well, how come some dudes like girls with big asses? | ||
| Some dudes like girls with really skinny. | ||
| Hey, everyone likes a girl with a big ass. | ||
| No, man. | ||
| Like there's some guys that are into like really skinny girls. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like really skinny like model type girls with no asses. | ||
| Not a lot. | ||
| None of my friends. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's all over the map. | ||
| It's a good way to put it. | ||
| It's all over the map. | ||
| He's into trucks. | ||
|
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But it's true. | |
| We talk fucking suspensions and shit. | ||
| All right, Joe, I'll see you later. | ||
| He goes, sucks dick. | ||
| His husband is actually into trucks, too, so it's weird. | ||
| But the point being is, like, they're very different personalities that are gay. | ||
| Like, I know gay dudes that don't seem even a little gay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then, you know, they had to eventually come out and, you know, explain the whole thing. | ||
| Like, do you know, like, there's, like, the fuck's his name? | ||
| Like, let me think of, like, a good example. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of them. | ||
| There's a lot. | ||
| No need to name them. | ||
| My buddy Keith, he's the man in the relationship. | ||
| He wrestled in college, makes millions of dollars. | ||
| And he was with a bunch of straight guys. | ||
| We were all eating and stuff, hanging out. | ||
| Frank was there. | ||
| And he goes, he just said it so matter-of-factly. | ||
| He goes, I mean, I think the only difference between me and you guys is I suck cock, you know? | ||
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And he kept talking. | |
| He's got a really deep voice too. | ||
| The difference is I'm not going to get fucked, but I'll fuck him. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Some will only fuck, right? | ||
| Some will only fuck. | ||
| They won't take it. | ||
| Some will only fuck. | ||
| Some don't give blowjobs, right? | ||
| Some don't give blowjobs. | ||
| On the gay singles sites, I bet they have to say that. | ||
| I bet there's a name for that. | ||
| Like a dude who doesn't suck dick. | ||
| He's got to have a name. | ||
| There's got to be like a code one. | ||
| I wonder what it is. | ||
| Think of a name. | ||
| I had the weirdest conversation with a gay couple once after a show I did in Connecticut way back in the day, man. | ||
| I don't even remember what bit it was that they were upset about, but they came up to me after the show and they were saying that, just to let you know, most gay guys don't fuck each other in the ass. | ||
| Like, we're married, we're gay, or a couple. | ||
| I don't know if it was legal to be married back then, because you're talking about like 91. 192, something like that. | ||
| And he was talking about, we just blow each other. | ||
| And I was like, okay. | ||
| That's the end of the relationship. | ||
| I don't know where to go with this. | ||
| You used to fuck me in the ass all the time. | ||
| Yeah, he was talking to me about... | ||
| And then after a while... | ||
| I would have answered, I would have said, I don't believe you, but continue. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| He was being honest. | ||
| He was like, we're not into it. | ||
| And he's like, it seems like the kind of humor, like that kind of gay humor, like fucking the ass humor, is like, it goes over really big out here in Connecticut, but we mostly, we hang out in the city. | ||
| He was one of those guys. | ||
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Right. | |
| It was like big on telling you that I'm very sophisticated. | ||
| I'm always in the city. | ||
| And I don't even take it in the ass. | ||
| I'm just getting my dick sucked by guys. | ||
| It was the strangest fucking conversation. | ||
| Yeah, but there's guys like that that... | ||
| But my point to him was, it was like, but you know guys do get fucked in the ass. | ||
| It's what they do. | ||
| When I'm talking about someone fucking someone in the ass, it's not like I'm making things up. | ||
| No. | ||
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I was under the impression that they all did that. | |
| No, they don't. | ||
| They definitely don't. | ||
| That'd be the exception though, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| At least on their birthday. | ||
| Every now and then on their birthday, boom. | ||
| You gotta give up that ass, son. | ||
| I'm not into surveys. | ||
| Once in a while. | ||
| When they're drunk and they complain. | ||
| I bet that's the number one complaint. | ||
| That's why they break up. | ||
| When they stop fucking the ass and it's just hand jobs, you know it's over. | ||
| Get the fuck out. | ||
| Get the fuck out. | ||
| This is the kind of fight Mike Pyle's about to fight Sean Spencer. | ||
| This is the kind of fight that makes me wish that TRT was legal. | ||
| Because Pyle's so fucking smart and crafty. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He's so fucking smart and crafty, I wish they could get that dude on TRT. You know what I'm saying? | ||
| He 100% needs it. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| You definitely need it when you hit 40. He's been fighting for so long? | ||
| Well, 40, I think how long he's been fighting. | ||
| He's been fighting for a long time. | ||
| He's taken some hard shots. | ||
| He's been KO'd by guys like Matt Brown. | ||
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Tough guys. | |
| dude though. | ||
| His skill level is very high. | ||
| But you know, there's a reality. | ||
| There's a goddamn difference between a 21 year old body, a natural one, and a natural 40 year old body. | ||
| There just is. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| His fight IQ has to be the highest. | ||
| Very high. | ||
| He's a savage man. | ||
| About 10 years ago, we did a movie together. | ||
| We were extras in a movie called The Assassination of a High School Principal. | ||
| We played like, I'm 35 years old and I'm playing a fraternity guy. | ||
| It was terrible. | ||
| It was terrible. | ||
| So bad. | ||
| But we're both in it. | ||
| And that guy is such a savage. | ||
| I've never seen anybody. | ||
| We went to a club that night afterwards. | ||
| He went into a club, grabbed a girl like a savage. | ||
| Just took her. | ||
| Grabbed that bitch by the ponytail. | ||
| We went back to the hotel and he handled business. | ||
| I've never seen him. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| We don't know what his status was at the time. | ||
| We don't know what happened. | ||
| It was between 10 and 20 years ago. | ||
| It could have been 100 years ago. | ||
| It may not have been Mike Pyle. | ||
| That's one thing I remember about Mike is he is a savage. | ||
| I never seen anybody get down like that. | ||
| Let's be real careful with those kind of details. | ||
| Those can be brought up. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| That's assault, brother. | ||
| You can't be doing that. | ||
| Well, he's... | ||
| Yeah, you can't even say you do that anymore. | ||
| It used to be that that was like an old movie trick. | ||
| Dude, you know who's the biggest savage as far as getting chicks I've ever seen? | ||
| And you would never guess when I gave you 100 tries. | ||
| Me and him were in Toronto. | ||
| Give you a hundred tries. | ||
| Jake Shields. | ||
| Oh, I would imagine. | ||
| With just Asians, though. | ||
| He's a handsome bastard. | ||
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Just Asian girls. | |
| He's handsome. | ||
| Dude, you would have thought he was Tom Cruise up in that bitch. | ||
| Jake Shields is a very handsome guy. | ||
| I mean, he's cool. | ||
| But he was like, hey, I need you to be my wingman and help me out here. | ||
| I was like, me? | ||
| What? | ||
| What do you mean by saying he's cool? | ||
| Like, you don't think that's a good looking guy? | ||
| He's not Luke Rockhold. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| I wouldn't say, is that handsome there? | ||
| No, he's not as handsome. | ||
| Luke Rockhold is ridiculous. | ||
| He's a timepiece. | ||
| He's a straight timepiece. | ||
| He's not Alan Juban level, that's for sure. | ||
| Dude, Alan Juban's a straight model. | ||
| So when you talk about those guys... | ||
| You know the story about Alan Juban had a big photo shoot in New York City like two weeks before his fight, so he had to cut weight twice. | ||
| He cuts weight for his photo shoots. | ||
| He gets shredded for his photo shoots. | ||
| I talked to Kenny Johnson about his wrestling coach. | ||
| His Versace, right? | ||
| Yeah, he's got a big fucking campaign, man. | ||
| He's gonna make bank. | ||
| He's a beautiful person. | ||
| Not just the way he looks, but he's a great guy. | ||
| The most beautiful in UFC history. | ||
| His heart, he's the sweetest guy. | ||
| Never been a young Don Frye. | ||
| He's such a nice guy to train with and everything, too. | ||
| He's so polite. | ||
| He's just a great guy. | ||
| Alan Jaban is the salt of the earth. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Beast, too. | ||
| Doesn't get any better looking. | ||
| Good luck being that. | ||
| I love you, bitch. | ||
| I know. | ||
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Good luck being that. | |
| Alan's a 10. Jake Shields is an 8. A strong 8. He's a strong 8. He's a strong 8. You want me on here? | ||
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I would say Jake's a solid 4. I'd say Jake's a 4. Oh, come on! | |
| What?! | ||
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I'd say he's a 6. What are you? | |
| Honestly. | ||
| Take yourself out of that. | ||
| I'll give you a hit of weed. | ||
| I want you to be real. | ||
| Why don't you be real about this? | ||
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What are you? | |
| What are you? | ||
| I don't say I'm a 5. I'm mid-pack. | ||
| My ears don't help. | ||
| You're very critical. | ||
| Your ears do help, though. | ||
| He's a 9. Girls like fucked up ears. | ||
| They're like a guy who's been through some danger. | ||
| They don't like a guy who's terrified of danger. | ||
| It's a natural, instinctive reaction. | ||
| It's to protect your genetics. | ||
| A guy who has never experienced danger may very well fall apart in the face of danger. | ||
| So a guy who does crazy shit, like does flips and bikes, why do you think they do that? | ||
| They do that because it attracts females. | ||
| Because females are attracted to a guy who's very risky. | ||
| A guy who takes chances and does nutty shit because those guys can survive pressure. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| I'm just saying with all the UFC fighters, I'd give myself a five. | ||
| Because we're all not scared of danger. | ||
| I'd give you a solid eight. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| I'd give you a solid eight, maybe eight and a half. | ||
| But you're a notch better than Jake Shields because you're way bigger than him. | ||
| I see girls look at you. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| And their little ovaries go, ding! | ||
| Hungry Eyes. | ||
| Everything we've done. | ||
| Not just Fighter and the Kid fans, a friend of mine, who's never even met Shaw before, was like, who's your friend? | ||
| You could tell her little loins were tingling. | ||
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What's up, dog? | |
| Bartender at the comic store. | ||
| Bartender at the comic store. | ||
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So it's a list of details. | |
| That's awesome. | ||
| Oh my god, there's only one there. | ||
| You didn't see I was already talking about her? | ||
| I'm just saying generally. | ||
| You motherfucker. | ||
| The waitress at the... | ||
| Thank god you're not high. | ||
| One of the waitresses at the Congress. | ||
| But how about nothing? | ||
| I would say you're a low nine. | ||
| How about no one from anywhere? | ||
| A low nine. | ||
| A weak nine. | ||
| What's a ten? | ||
| Jobin? | ||
| He's a Versace. | ||
| He's an eleven. | ||
| He's an eleven. | ||
| Well, you're being kind. | ||
| Shob's an eight. | ||
| He's a good-looking eight. | ||
| But he's got a personality. | ||
| Personality means more than two points. | ||
| Yes, it does. | ||
| Again, eight. | ||
| Look at that Alan Joban picture. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| That's not even a real person. | ||
| Tell me he's short at least. | ||
| Tell me he's 5'4". | ||
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No, he's not. | |
| Six feet tall. | ||
| Six feet. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| You know he just did a campaign for Equinox. | ||
| I'll tell you what, man. | ||
| If you're an Alan Joban hater, you fucking hate people because he's one of the best people I've ever met. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Just a great, great dude. | ||
| He's a fucking great guy. | ||
| Can't say anything bad about him. | ||
| If I looked like that, I'd wake up every morning and be like, this is going to be a good day. | ||
| I'm telling you, though, I mean, he's not a pretty boy. | ||
| I mean, this motherfucker's had some serious fights. | ||
| And he bites down on that mouthpiece and scraps. | ||
| He got knocked down his last fighter. | ||
| He fought Tumanoff, man. | ||
| Tumanoff is a motherfucker, dude. | ||
| Motherfucker. | ||
| I didn't like that matchup. | ||
| His efficiency, it was a tough fight for anybody. | ||
| Especially a tough fight when you cut weak. | ||
| Close fight. | ||
| He cut two weeks before. | ||
| No, he got knocked out in the first round. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm saying not the result. | ||
| I'm saying on paper, that's a tough fight to pick. | ||
| I wouldn't have taken it if I was in the Allen's corner. | ||
| If I was in the Allen's corner, I wouldn't have taken it. | ||
| I wouldn't have taken it because it's not that I don't think he can beat that guy. | ||
| I just think right now, Tumanoff striking is so smooth and efficient. | ||
| It's heavy. | ||
| It's heavy. | ||
| It's straight down the pipe. | ||
| It's also very fluid. | ||
| Like, he can go from throwing a jab to throwing a lead uppercut in a straight right hand, and every one of them is perfect. | ||
| And they count. | ||
| They count, they're accurate, and the mechanics behind them are totally correct. | ||
| Scary dude. | ||
| Like, there's guys that probably hit harder. | ||
| Like, Tyron Woodley probably hits harder than anybody. | ||
| Tyron Woodley, like, one shot for one shot. | ||
| Like, when he KO'd Jay Heron, I was like, Jesus Christ! | ||
| Christ! | ||
| He's an exploder, dude. | ||
| If he catches you perfectly on that explosion, he's going to put you away. | ||
| And it's not saying that his efficiency is bad. | ||
| His efficiency is way better even now because he's training with Duke Rufus. | ||
| Tuminov doesn't have that one-shot power that Woodley has, but his efficiency is perfect. | ||
| Ooh, it's nasty. | ||
| Everything is perfect. | ||
| You see a guy that hits hard, one of the things you see, almost invariably, is their body positioning is always perfect. | ||
| When a guy's throwing a ridiculous punch, you'll see the bend in the legs, you'll see the turn of the body. | ||
| When a guy's a serious power striker, with Tuminov, everything's in place. | ||
| It's all like the knee is in the right spot, when the hook... | ||
| When he's throwing the hook, his foot's in the right spot, his weight's in the right spot. | ||
| There's no bullshit. | ||
| Did he come out of the Russian amateur boxing thing? | ||
| He's a master of sports in boxing. | ||
| Yeah, that's trouble, man. | ||
| And he can fucking kick, too, man. | ||
| He can kick. | ||
| He's an amazing amateur program. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's unexpectedly dangerous with his kicks. | ||
| But he lost his last fight, right? | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, he beat Lorenz Larkin. | ||
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Oh, that's right. | |
| But it wasn't a great fight. | ||
| It was a very good fight. | ||
| I loved that fight. | ||
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I don't think so. | |
| Really? | ||
| So close, because they were so dangerous. | ||
| Did we do a fight campaign for that? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| This is the one where Lorenz Larkin was throwing those wheel kicks to the thigh. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And fucked up his thigh. | ||
| Fucked up his leg. | ||
| Fucked up his leg. | ||
| But Tuminov hung in there to the end. | ||
| And a super close fight. | ||
| I honestly thought that Larkin pulled it off, but I wasn't upset at the decision because it was so close. | ||
| His leg was jacked. | ||
| It was so weird. | ||
| Those low wheel kicks. | ||
| He does all kinds of weird stuff. | ||
| Larkin is a bad motherfucker, dude. | ||
| He's one of the dark horses in that division. | ||
| His takedown defense, I haven't seen anything like it in a long time. | ||
| He came up to Reign to train with Munoz, Pat Cummins, and myself, and his wrestling day. | ||
| I was like, oh, we're just going to take this full down. | ||
| Well, I thought going into that fight, Larkin was going to have the kicking advantage, and Tumanoff was going to have the striking advantage, and that's how it turned out. | ||
| But, God damn, it was a close-ass fight. | ||
| Larkin actually has braces and during the fight his fucking braces were sticking into his mouth. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Like something went wrong with his braces. | ||
| He was like trying to fix it in between rounds. | ||
| How the fuck can you fight with braces? | ||
| He shouldn't be fighting with braces. | ||
| Isn't there Invisalign now or some shit? | ||
| But he's a very good looking man. | ||
| He has the Frank Shamrock braces? | ||
| Yeah, I need some. | ||
| He has the silver mouth? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I didn't see it until they're talking about it in between rounds in the corner. | ||
| I still feel bad about myself after seeing Al Angel Byron. | ||
| I wonder if Bellator is going to let Benson Henderson fight with a toothpick in his mouth. | ||
| They're going to let him do whatever the fuck he wants. | ||
| Oh, he clipped him. | ||
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He clipped him. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| He's covering heads up really bad. | ||
| Come on, pal. | ||
| Don't get too crazy. | ||
| Oh, it's 3-0-1 right now. | ||
| 3, 259, 258, 257. Sync that shit up. | ||
| Mike Pyle versus Sean Spencer? | ||
| Is that who's fighting? | ||
| Is that the... | ||
| He just got rocked. | ||
| Spencer got rocked, man. | ||
| Is that his name? | ||
| We shouldn't say that's his name. | ||
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Sean Spencer, yeah. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Yeah, Ben Henderson's fighting for the title shot, right? | ||
| Isn't he fighting Brooks? | ||
| Do you know that's secretly my biggest fear? | ||
| Is he going to fight for the title? | ||
| Yeah, by the way. | ||
| It's next month. | ||
| My biggest fear is forgetting what someone's name is in the middle of a fight while calling the fight. | ||
| Good thing you don't have a head drum. | ||
| I don't know how you do it. | ||
| Good thing, Doc. | ||
| Well, I also have alpha brain and notes. | ||
| You got some alpha brain on you right now? | ||
| For reals, I could use some of that right now. | ||
| Where's the jug? | ||
| There should be a jug over here. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| These are good fights tonight, man. | ||
| The best stuff is the new stuff we have. | ||
| The instant alpha brain? | ||
| The shit. | ||
| I take four. | ||
| The instant stuff is awesome. | ||
| I do love the instant. | ||
| I don't have any here. | ||
| Dude, I had Kyle Kingsbury on the other day. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| Great guy. | ||
| Oh my god, what a sweetheart. | ||
| So fucking smart, too. | ||
| His wife is a Smoke Show 3000, too. | ||
| She used to be a UFC ring card girl. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| She's a very cool chick, too. | ||
| The whole family's just good people. | ||
| They're Salt of the Earth. | ||
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What'd you call her? | |
| So cool. | ||
| Salt of the Earth? | ||
| Damn, man. | ||
| I said Smoke Show. | ||
| Oh, Smoke Show. | ||
| Salt of the Earth, Smoke Show. | ||
| Mine's more old school. | ||
| Yours is probably better. | ||
| Yeah, she's just a really sweet person, too. | ||
| It's cool seeing them parents, too. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| They have two? | ||
| No, one. | ||
| One little boy. | ||
| God, he's so fucking cute. | ||
| Didn't he just start smoking weed recently, right? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| No? | ||
| No, he does everything, man. | ||
| He's big in the ayahuasca. | ||
| I thought Pat Cummings had some shit. | ||
| I was under the impression that he just started. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Or maybe it was the week before he did a bunch of ayahuasca and then fought Pat. | ||
| He got mollywhopped by Pat. | ||
| Pat is a motherfucker. | ||
| I cornered Pat during that fight. | ||
| Pat Cummins is a motherfucker. | ||
| Look how smart Mike Pyle is. | ||
| Look how efficient and smooth he is. | ||
| He sees the shots, he slips them. | ||
| And he's in real good shape. | ||
| I mean, don't get me wrong, but there's just a reality about what a 40-year-old body can do as far as the way he pushes himself. | ||
| Like, that was what held Bernard Hopkins back. | ||
| You know, like, Bernard Hopkins just couldn't keep a pace with a guy like Sergei Kovalov. | ||
| He had to go into a defensive mode against him. | ||
| It was tough to watch. | ||
| But it was because he was 49 years old. | ||
| If he fought Kovalev when he was 35, holy shit, that would have been an amazing fucking fight. | ||
| Amazing fight. | ||
| Did you see Kovalev's last fight? | ||
| Dude. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| He's a murderer. | ||
| Him and Andre Ward, that's the fight. | ||
| He killed a guy in the ring. | ||
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| And it didn't affect him the way it affects most people. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| Cool-hearted Russian. | ||
| Yeah, it didn't take anything off of his desire to compete. | ||
| Does not give a fuck. | ||
| That's one thing that happens to fighters sometimes, and man, they're rarely the same after someone dies in the ring. | ||
| Boom Boom Mancini, that happened. | ||
| He was never really the same. | ||
| Emile Griffith. | ||
| They say that Emile Griffiths, they say, was gay. | ||
| And that Benny Perrette, the guy who was fighting, was talking a lot of shit about him being gay. | ||
| And was saying a lot of gay slurs. | ||
| And Emile Griffiths beat the fuck out of that dude. | ||
| And then he died? | ||
| He beat him to death. | ||
| He beat him to death. | ||
| Damn, son. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't remember what round it was. | ||
| If I had to guess, I want to say it was like the 14th round. | ||
| There's a documentary on Boom Boom saying how when that guy died, he was never the same. | ||
| Oh yeah, of course. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Most fighters... | ||
| I think the guy's name was Ban Ki-moon or something like that. | ||
| Dooku Kim? | ||
| Dooku Kim, that's who I was. | ||
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Ban Ki-moon. | |
| You were close. | ||
| Ban Ki-moon is the... | ||
| I think it's the commissioner for the UN or something. | ||
| His dad was his... | ||
| That was another extreme dehydration fight. | ||
| He extremely dehydrated to get down to 135. That shit was on national TV if you remember. | ||
| They also had weigh-ins the day of the fights. | ||
| That's a terrible idea. | ||
| Somebody did something I read, and I don't know if it's true, but they said that a number of people who've died in the ring had dads for their coach. | ||
| They'll push themselves. | ||
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There's not a lot. | |
| There's not a lot. | ||
| But apparently that's very common for guys to push themselves until they get really hurt because their dad's in the corner. | ||
| Well, Wonderboy Thompson's trained by his dad. | ||
| Isn't he? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| And so is Sage. | ||
| Sage Northcutt, trained by his dad. | ||
| There's been quite a few. | ||
| Darren Crookshank, trained by his dad. | ||
| You think Sage is all the flack he's getting on the internet is just? | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| No, listen, I think if you ask any fighter, hey, if Dana offered you 40 and 40, are you going to take it at 19? | ||
| Fuck yes. | ||
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Of course. | |
| It's not his fault, this whole hype machine. | ||
| Well, you know what, man? | ||
| It was a good fight for him to experience, to learn. | ||
| That's what I said. | ||
| He needs to learn some ground defense, and he needs to learn some jiu-jitsu, but that's to be expected. | ||
| He's only fucking 19 years old. | ||
| People get caught in the gym all the time, guys that are good at jiu-jitsu. | ||
| I get caught. | ||
| I think it was the best thing to happen to him. | ||
| The sky's He's the limit, though, as far as his potential. | ||
| At 19 years of age, he seems to have a very good attitude. | ||
| He's a smart kid. | ||
| Athletically, he's ridiculous. | ||
| Have you seen those front flips he can do? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Off a toe. | ||
| Off one toe. | ||
| And the way he does it, it looks fake. | ||
| It looks like he's on a stick. | ||
| You're spinning him like one of those foosball tables. | ||
| He said he was on antibiotics, too, in that fight, because he looked like shit. | ||
| We had strep. | ||
| That's one of the reasons why, apparently, he tapped so quickly. | ||
| Because when it was clamping down on his throat, he was already swollen, his throat was already fucked up. | ||
| He had strep. | ||
| He's gonna be fine. | ||
| He gets a lot of hate. | ||
| He gets a lot of hate. | ||
| Of course he does. | ||
| It's tough, like, you see Tony Ferguson made videos, like, I tapped out like a bitch. | ||
| It's tough if you're a guy like Tony Ferguson, who's grinding, right? | ||
| He doesn't get nowhere near as much love as a guy like Sage. | ||
| You know, Tony Ferguson is in the PR business as well as in the fight business. | ||
| That's the reality in the post-McGregor era. | ||
| You're in the PR business, man. | ||
| Look what Conor McGregor did. | ||
| He said, ooh, Mike Pyle got a good guillotine. | ||
| He's got a good guillotine. | ||
| Look at him scooting in here. | ||
| Look at him scooting in here. | ||
| Watch that right butterfly. | ||
| He will mount. | ||
| He will fucking mount. | ||
| Oh, what did I call? | ||
| He missed it. | ||
| Missed him out. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker, Mike Pyle. | ||
| He fought Rampage Jackson in 2001. His first pro fight was Rampage Jackson. | ||
| Rampage is way bigger than he is. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| Mike Pyle, and that was one of the reasons that Matt Brown was so respectful about him after the fight. | ||
| He's like, people don't know how good Mike Pyle is. | ||
| I guess in the training room, too, he's even better. | ||
| I guess he's a motherfucker. | ||
| That's what I hear. | ||
| They say in the training room he's, like, unstoppable. | ||
| I'm telling you, TRT is designed for dudes like this. | ||
| Can't do it anymore, son. | ||
| And now they have testing for HGH? China calls, son. | ||
| They have testing for HGH? Yes, they have a testing for HGH that gets you from 21 days out. | ||
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What? | |
| Now you're really fucked. | ||
| It used to be, like, a day. | ||
| It used to be, like, 24 hours. | ||
| You can't do shit anymore. | ||
| You can't do shit anymore. | ||
| Don't come up with something. | ||
| Gene, don't think me. | ||
| Well, I told you Nowitzki said that they've already, at least theoretically, have testosterone that's derived from animals instead of wild yams. | ||
| So the carbon isotope test doesn't work. | ||
| Yeah, it looks like human testosterone. | ||
| Oh, Dirty Bird. | ||
| Yeah, no shit, your name's the Dirty Bird. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Yeah, but it does. | ||
| Of course the Dirty Bird tested positive. | ||
| This is a good fight, man. | ||
| Mike Pyle and Sean Spencer throwing down, man. | ||
| Props to Spencer for surviving that exchange. | ||
| This fight's in Vegas? | ||
| Yeah, this is at the MGM. That stadium looks empty. | ||
| It's empty, I'm sure. | ||
| When the main event dropped out, I'm sure a lot of people canceled their trips. | ||
| Dude, I'm not mad at Verdum. | ||
| I was going to talk about it at the beginning. | ||
| It makes sense because... | ||
| Since he's the heavyweight champ, the way it works out a lot of times is you get a percentage of pay-per-views, but you have to hit a certain number. | ||
| It's hard to market Stipe versus Verdum on two weeks. | ||
| He's not going to hit those pay-per-view numbers. | ||
| So when he was like, oh, I'm out, I was like, that's fucking brilliant. | ||
| But he's definitely hurt. | ||
| The word that I'm hearing from everybody is that he's fucking hurt. | ||
| He's been having some back problems for a while now, apparently. | ||
| He was having it on one side of his back. | ||
| And it would lock up, but he was working through it. | ||
| Oh, nice spinning elbow. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| We got some, son. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Come on, Pyle. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Oh, nasty knee. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
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Stop it. | |
| Stop it. | ||
| This fight is over, man. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Sean Spencer's a monster. | ||
| They can stop this fight. | ||
| Who's the ref? | ||
| Is that Edo Levine? | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Steve Levine, son. | ||
| Stop it, man. | ||
| That's a brutal beating. | ||
| Pyle just looked at him. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| He's not defending himself. | ||
| Eve Levine lets shit go. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
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Brutality. | |
| He does, but that was not good. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But you know if you got Eve Levine as your ref, you're like, ah, I'm about to get fucked up. | ||
| It's a violent sport. | ||
| Sometimes it happens. | ||
| Yeah, but we can prevent that. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Four or five of those shots. | ||
| He's looking at his eyes. | ||
| What pressure? | ||
| Dude, four or five of those shots. | ||
| He's been a ref for fucking years. | ||
| The pressure is if he would have stopped it early and everyone fucking complains. | ||
| No one gave a fuck. | ||
| That guy was out. | ||
| That guy was in trouble. | ||
| I would rather have it go a little late than a little early. | ||
| No, that hurts the sport, my man. | ||
| That doesn't hurt no fucking sport. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| How's that hurting the sport? | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
| We're paying for the violence. | ||
| Yeah, but a little late is unnecessary. | ||
| That wasn't that late, man. | ||
| That was very entertaining. | ||
| That might be one less fight on Spencer's career. | ||
| Brutality is what we pay for. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| Well, look, you know what? | ||
| It's real subjective, Eddie, because you're right in a lot of ways. | ||
| But then again, there's guys that survive it, like Frankie Edgar, right? | ||
| If you stopped every fight where Frankie Edgar was wobbled, you'd be in real trouble. | ||
| I mean, he would have never beat Gray Matard in that second fight by KO. Correct. | ||
| Because he got hurt hard in that first round, and a lot of trigger-happy refs would have pulled the trigger on that fight. | ||
| And there's a shitload of fights out there. | ||
| There are. | ||
| There's a whole list of them. | ||
| But this one is prolonged. | ||
| This is my problem with this. | ||
| He's not hitting back and he's not defending himself. | ||
| How's he gonna win? | ||
| He's not doing anything. | ||
| He's just taking shots. | ||
| Stop this, right? | ||
| He was defending himself. | ||
| He's not moving. | ||
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He was defending himself until the very end. | |
| But those last shots, he's not moving. | ||
| He's not moving at all. | ||
| He's just surviving on his toughness. | ||
| That was a great call. | ||
| That was a great definitive call. | ||
| It wasn't on the fence. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| If it goes a little over the fence, it's fine. | ||
| That's why there's subjective thinking. | ||
| Dude, how experienced is Mike Powell? | ||
| You and I have different points of view, but I see your argument. | ||
| But we gotta realize, why are we watching this? | ||
| We're watching this not for decisions, we're watching this for brutality. | ||
| Right, but you gotta protect a guy when a fight is basically over. | ||
| Highlights are all brutal. | ||
| You gotta protect a guy from his own toughness. | ||
| That's a crazy guy. | ||
| That's a beautiful highlight. | ||
| Beatdowns like that are highlights. | ||
| I think it's a highlight. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It's a highlight. | ||
| If you stopped it... | ||
| Three punches before it's still a highlight. | ||
| Yes, I agree. | ||
| I agree, too. | ||
| I agree, too. | ||
| But it's not the worst. | ||
| That was not the worst stoppage ever. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| You know what was worse? | ||
| You know what was worse? | ||
| Luke Rockhold and Chris Weidman. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That was worse. | ||
| Way worse. | ||
| That was a fight that should have been stopped. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| When he was on top of them, I was saying, what does Luke Rockhold have to do to get a stoppage? | ||
| Because this is terrible. | ||
| Chris Weidman has taken damage that's probably not just unnecessary, but most likely when you get beaten up like that, you're not going to recover. | ||
| But there have been many, many fights where they could have easily stopped it and the guy came back to win. | ||
| Shane Carr was a lot of fights like that. | ||
| There's a lot of fights like that. | ||
| You gotta let it go for the fans. | ||
| They're paying 65 fucking dollars now? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| We'd rather have a little late than a little early. | ||
| A little late than a little early is always gonna win. | ||
| I think Brock Lesnar looked better versus Shane Carr than Weidman did. | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| There really wasn't any damage. | ||
| He was getting hit, but He's covering up, but there's no blood. | ||
| But he looked like he was there. | ||
| Weidman was getting thumped on. | ||
| Face was literally like someone shot him with a.22 to the face. | ||
| That's like greatest moments of MMA history because of that. | ||
| That's why hardly nobody's doing MMA. Because of the brutality. | ||
| That's why people are paying $65 for it. | ||
| If it was all decisions, no one would pay for anything. | ||
| That's a stop regardless. | ||
| That wasn't that bad. | ||
| Well, okay, you know, we don't have to argue about it. | ||
| I see Eddie's point of view, and I'm leaning more towards your side. | ||
| I think maybe it could have stopped because he was just standing there taking shots. | ||
| He wasn't moving. | ||
| That's my problem. | ||
| When a guy's just standing there taking shots and he's not moving, he's waiting for the referee to stop. | ||
| But he was standing fully erect. | ||
| He wasn't wobbling. | ||
| Not for the last time. | ||
| He's just a stud. | ||
| He's a stud. | ||
| He's in excellent shape. | ||
| But that's how a lot of guys die. | ||
| Like, a lot of the guys that have died from getting beat up, they didn't go down. | ||
| They got beaten down. | ||
| They sank into the ropes. | ||
| How many people have died in MMA? 5,000. | ||
| I'm not talking about MMA. Mostly boxing. | ||
| Mostly boxing. | ||
| Well, you know, one of the things that MMA has going for it is that you can fucking clinch. | ||
| It's the cruelest shit ever to watch a guy rocked in a boxing match and the referee's pulling him off and holding on to the guy. | ||
| It's the worst. | ||
| It's the only thing that's keeping that guy alive. | ||
| It's gangster. | ||
| It's the only thing keeping him alive. | ||
| They're like, nope, you can't hang on. | ||
| They go, break up, break it up. | ||
| You're like, oh, no. | ||
| If you don't let go, I'm going to disqualify you. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| It's the worst. | ||
| It's really dumb. | ||
| Mike Pyle. | ||
| Powerful Mike Pyle. | ||
| This is a big win for him. | ||
| Congratulations to him. | ||
| He's been fighting forever, man. | ||
| 40 years old. | ||
| I remember the first time I heard his name, Ed Clay said, there's a guy from Tennessee named Mike Pyle. | ||
| He trains at my gym. | ||
| Watch out for this guy. | ||
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This was 2001 or 2000. So long ago. | |
| He's 40 now. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Top of the head, son. | ||
| Well, I think MMA, in a way, has a longer lifespan, regardless of what you're taking. | ||
| Even if you're taking nothing than boxing does, because it's not as completely dependent upon reflexes. | ||
| There's so many different skills to learn. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| This is brutal. | ||
| See, that's when he looked at the referee. | ||
| He looked at the referee and went, stop it. | ||
| I haven't stopped. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| One more, and he stopped. | ||
| He wanted to make sure, boom, okay, we're done. | ||
| He's still on his feet. | ||
| Guy wasn't doing shit, though. | ||
| Sean was just taking it because he was tough. | ||
| He didn't need to take that last name. | ||
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For sure. | |
| It's alright. | ||
| Eddie wants violence. | ||
| Poor baby. | ||
| Rip his head off. | ||
| Eddie's that guy. | ||
| Rip his head off. | ||
| Wasn't the worst thing. | ||
| Dude, I'm just trying to be honest here. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I see what you're saying, but poor baby? | ||
| This guy just fought his heart out. | ||
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You're like, poor baby. | |
| Hey, that's what people are paying $65. | ||
| They know the game. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| They know the game. | ||
| They know it's brutal. | ||
| Everybody's well aware that you're in a fucking cage, man. | ||
| Dudes are throwing full-blown shin kicks to your skull. | ||
| No one's trying to stop that. | ||
| But they are, once you're hurt. | ||
| But once you're hurt, they are trying to stop that. | ||
| That's the whole idea behind it. | ||
| What would you rather take? | ||
| What he went through against the fence like that, with those elbows like that, and you were kind of standing? | ||
| Or Edson Barbosa just throwing a straight fucking wheel kick? | ||
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It's completely different. | |
| A wheel kick in your face. | ||
| Or that switch kick to your side. | ||
| Come on, with the heel. | ||
| That switch kick to your floating rib. | ||
| No, no, that switch kick ain't shit. | ||
| I'm talking about the wheel kick with the heel in your eye socket. | ||
| Might be the hardest hit. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't feel good. | ||
| I'd rather take those Mike Pyle elbows and shit. | ||
| Oh, definitely. | ||
| His fucking wheel kick is perfect. | ||
| His switch kick and his wheel kick are like the best I've ever seen. | ||
| The fastest, too. | ||
| Even his leg kicks are so goddamn fast. | ||
| Barclos is probably the fastest kicker maybe I've ever seen. | ||
| I don't think I've ever seen anybody kick as fast as him. | ||
| Not even close though. | ||
| There's been a lot of fucking KOs with those wheel kicks over the last five years. | ||
| Look at Wonderboy Thompson. | ||
| It's kind of common now. | ||
| Do you remember we used to talk about it and I was like, just people don't know how to do it. | ||
| I go, people know how to do it. | ||
| It's horrific because if it lands, I've never seen anybody get wheel kicked in the head by a guy who's good and not go out. | ||
| Like when you get healed, when a heel hits your head, you know, like sometimes you catch guys with the toes and those guys are okay. | ||
| They get slapped. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But when a heel hits you in the head from a guy who really knows how to kick it. | ||
| And you got your boot on. | ||
| And you got the boot on. | ||
| Dude, Wonderboy landed too. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| You got your boot on. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| As opposed to like this. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, the key is, it's just like throwing a punch. | ||
| The idea, like when you're throwing a punch is, you don't want your hand completely clinched up until you're going to make impact because then it slows the punch down. | ||
| So you're supposed to punch and then tighten your hand up as you're about to hit. | ||
| It's like kind of a timing thing in a lot of ways. | ||
| You want to keep everything as loose as possible while exploding in the right way. | ||
| It's the same thing with a kick. | ||
| When you throw in that wheel kick, you want everything to be almost like ballet until like... | ||
| Halfway there. | ||
| And then halfway there, you're pulling your leg back, and you're pushing your foot forward, and you're sticking that heel out. | ||
| But it doesn't come until, like, there. | ||
| It's like as you're in the middle of the spin, once you get, like, there, that's when everything hardens up. | ||
| And boom! | ||
| And then you come across with a heel. | ||
| That's what Barboza does. | ||
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Sneaky. | |
| No MMA fighters were working on that shit in the late 90s, early 2000s. | ||
| People used to make fun of me. | ||
| Yeah, nobody was working on that shit. | ||
| Everyone is now, though. | ||
| Dude, people used to make fun of me when I brought it up. | ||
| I would say, you know, once people learn how to really throw spinning back kicks to the body, it's like getting hit by a car. | ||
| It was more really When the people that already know how to do it learn how to wrestle and do jiu-jitsu so they're not afraid to throw it. | ||
| Because there was karate guys and taekwondo guys in those times, but they were told by their MMA coach, don't fucking throw that shit because these guys are going to take you down and choke you out. | ||
| So they were limited. | ||
| They're like, okay, we're going to keep it nice and simple and we're not going to do these spin kicks that we know how to do because we suck on the ground. | ||
| But once, like Stephen Thompson or Wonderboy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He landed two on Jake Ellenberger. | ||
| He's good on the ground. | ||
| This was after Ellenberger said that it was a waste of time to throw those things. | ||
| He's like, I'm not worried about his spinning technique. | ||
| He said waste of time? | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| He's like, it was a waste of energy. | ||
| In the preview. | ||
| Did he really? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| In the preview he said that. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Wonderboy moves like a fucking snake. | ||
| That's the future right there. | ||
| Guys that can strike like that, like Conor McGregor, like Diego Brandao, those guys that just throw everything. | ||
| Diego Brandao, that's aggressive. | ||
| He's a great striker, isn't he? | ||
| Not compared to those two. | ||
| Not to those two. | ||
| He throws a lot of spinning shit. | ||
| He throws some wild shit. | ||
| He's like me compared to Joe Ban in the looks department. | ||
| It's far off. | ||
| It's far off. | ||
| Did you ever throw spinning shit in the UFC? Never. | ||
| Never? | ||
| Never! | ||
| Why? | ||
| You're super athletic. | ||
| No one really taught me. | ||
| I never had a kickboxing coach or a taekwondo coach. | ||
| No one ever said, every now and then, it's good to have a fucking game over weapon right there. | ||
| That's a wheel kick, man. | ||
| No. | ||
| No one ever taught me that, huh? | ||
| A lot of fighters, though, don't throw them. | ||
| I would say 80% still don't throw them, right? | ||
| A lot of them can't. | ||
| That's a long-term project. | ||
| It's a totally different thing to learn. | ||
| You've got to spend a lot of time on that shit. | ||
| And it's not exactly, if you're putting it in priorities, spinning wheel kick, it's probably at number It's a long-term project, for sure. | ||
| Unless it's your shit. | ||
| That's why, like, it helps if you have a martial arts background to start with when you're a kid, you learn that shit first. | ||
| It becomes normal. | ||
| Like, if you see little four-year-olds throwing sidekicks and then wheel kicks, it's hilarious. | ||
| It's cute. | ||
| And it's adorable because their legs, they're so used to throwing their legs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, they throw their legs up in the air and it's normal. | ||
| And then as they get older and their legs get heavy, their body's used to the dynamic. | ||
| That's gonna be a good fight. | ||
| Dude, come on. | ||
| That's gonna be a crazy fight, son. | ||
| Habib Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson. | ||
| That's Hagler-Hearns in shape right there. | ||
| That's going to be sick. | ||
| Tony's going to fight Johnson again. | ||
| I was like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| Let's just settle the fuck down. | ||
| What happened there? | ||
| What are the odds that that fight is really going to take place? | ||
| Zero to not. | ||
| Yeah, not happening. | ||
| Nurmagomedov's hurt all the time. | ||
| Unfortunately, he's super talented, but he's hurt all the time. | ||
| You think he's going to get hurt again? | ||
| He easily could get hurt again. | ||
| Easily. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| More likely to get hurt than not, I'd say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which sucks. | ||
| Yeah, look. | ||
| People get hurt. | ||
| You think there's a 50% chance of him getting hurt or 80%? | ||
| I'd say 60%. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| That's a Fox card, apparently. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| On my calendar, at least, that's a Fox card. | ||
| I don't know if that's going to be an FS1 or a Fox card. | ||
| I don't think it's an AKA thing, how these guys are getting hurt. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Khabib and Kane, they just have so much experience with wrestling and doing combat sports. | ||
| They're just getting up there, man. | ||
| They're trying to train like regular dudes and they're getting hurt. | ||
| Khabib's a young guy. | ||
| Khabib's a young guy. | ||
| He has a ton of experience, though. | ||
| He does. | ||
| He's undefeated. | ||
| Wasn't he a world champion, Sabo? | ||
| World Sabo champion. | ||
| Master of sports. | ||
| And what's interesting is when you watch it, yeah. | ||
| I thought he was just a wrestler. | ||
| He looks like when you're watching him compete, he looks like a wrestler. | ||
| His wrestling and his positioning is outstanding. | ||
| Is he leg-locking people? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| He's smashing people on the ground. | ||
| Those guys in Russia do a lot of Greco, too, though. | ||
| When you're a samuel guy, you're also doing a lot of Greco, typically. | ||
| His clinch is insane. | ||
| His ability to control from the top is insane. | ||
| I was going to say about Rockhold the other day. | ||
| Two fights in a row, Rockhold impressed me in a huge way with his ability to control from the top. | ||
| Against Machida and then against Weidman. | ||
| Because Machida was impressive, but I think he had Machida fucked up before they went to the ground. | ||
| It was a Temple thing, Machida went to the ground. | ||
| He destroyed him. | ||
| I think Machida was already fucked up, but Weidman wasn't. | ||
| Weidman just caught a wheel kick in a fight where there was a real close fight, but once he got him on the ground, man, God damn it. | ||
| Just top game. | ||
| I think he was so much stronger, too. | ||
| Weidman was walking around at 193, apparently, and Rockhold two weeks before the fight was 216. Technique, too. | ||
| His technique is nasty. | ||
| You can't just say size. | ||
| Sizing isn't going to teach you Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| He's also training with, I don't know, Daniel Cormier and Cain Velasquez. | ||
| That's a huge part of it, man. | ||
| I think that's a huge part of it, because like Cormier said, when he fought Jon Jones, he didn't have Kane in his corner. | ||
| Kane was all fucked up from surgery, and he's like, it made a big impact on me. | ||
| I really felt it. | ||
| Whether or not that had anything to do with him losing to Jon Jones, you're making that face. | ||
| I want to see Anthony Johnson and Jon Jones fight. | ||
| Oh yeah, I want to see that too. | ||
| That's what I want to see. | ||
| But Cormier, I want to see him with Kane in his corner, training with him, see if that has any impact. | ||
| That fight's going down, right? | ||
| Cain's going through surgery, apparently. | ||
| He's going to have back surgery. | ||
| Really? | ||
| He already had it. | ||
| He already had it. | ||
| What do you think about Holman Tate? | ||
| I think it's a tough fight. | ||
| That came back surgery is not an easy thing. | ||
| That's not like a small deal. | ||
| You're taking pieces of your disc. | ||
| He's out for a while. | ||
| He had a discectomy, right? | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| That means the gel that separates your discs. | ||
| He had a piece of it removed because it was pressing into his nerve. | ||
| It's a very controversial procedure because some people feel like you don't have to do it. | ||
| Like Louie Simmons, the guy from Westside Barbell, they wanted to take him and fuse his discs. | ||
| And that's why he created that machine that I have out back, the hyper... | ||
| The back... | ||
| What the fuck's it called? | ||
| Reverse Hyper. | ||
| Reverse Hyper. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| That's a big glass of wine. | ||
| You're not mad at that wine. | ||
| Are you trying to get loose, Eddie? | ||
| I hear some drums in the background. | ||
| My favorite Chianti right there. | ||
| Some tomahawks. | ||
| Callum brought the fire tonight. | ||
| Brought the fire. | ||
| Get involved in that Chianti. | ||
| So what do you do with Cain? | ||
| If he can't fight. | ||
| You gotta rehab that back, man. | ||
| I'm not necessarily a big fan of cutting your back right away. | ||
| I think you gotta take some time off of training and really heal that bitch up correctly. | ||
| I'm pretty sure you already had surgery. | ||
| Well, here's my thoughts, though. | ||
| If you want to get back into it really quick, that's the way to do it. | ||
| But long-term health, I'm not entirely convinced. | ||
| Obviously, I'm not a doctor. | ||
| But I've recovered from bulging discs. | ||
| I had a bulging disc in my back that doesn't exist anymore. | ||
| I had a bulging disc in my neck. | ||
| It doesn't exist anymore. | ||
| If you look at an MRI, it looks different. | ||
| And it's from long-term rehab. | ||
| I had to take a lot of time off of rolling. | ||
| I had to do spinal... | ||
| Decompression. | ||
| I did it in an office with a chiropractor at first, and then I got some machines where you could strap them up, some mechanical shit you strapped to your door at your house. | ||
| I went through Regenikine injections. | ||
| I went through a lot of rolfing and breaking apart scar tissue that was pulling on everything, and everything was all fucked up and tightened up. | ||
| It was just like years and years of wear and tear. | ||
| But now, through that and through yoga, I don't have any of those issues anymore. | ||
| They're gone. | ||
| So... | ||
| I don't know what his, how bad his was, but I know mine was my fucking hands were numb. | ||
| You know, my left hand was going numb. | ||
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That bad? | |
| Yeah, my fingers, my two fingers, my ring finger and my pinky finger were going numb. | ||
| So let me ask you this, Joe. | ||
| What do you do with the heavyweight division? | ||
| You have Verdum fight a guy like Roth I think what Kane should concentrate on, if I was Kane, I mean, get your body completely fucking healthy. | ||
| There's a lot of people that have like severely criticized his strength and conditioning videos that are online. | ||
| I don't know if he works with this guy anymore, but he was working with a guy that was like the strength and conditioning coach and he had him doing these- I haven't seen it. | ||
| You haven't seen this? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Pull up- Is he doing some bullshit? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Pull up. | ||
| Kane does 200-pound kettlebell swings. | ||
| His form is, according to Steve Maxwell and according to a bunch of other respected kettlebell trainers, completely wrong. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| And this guy's got him lifting this insane weight and doing this completely wrong. | ||
| Almost like a shrug. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| 200 pounds? | ||
| Yeah, it's like 200 plus. | ||
| Good way to blow your asshole out. | ||
| I think it's more than 200. I think it's 200 plus. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| It's 203 pounds. | ||
| This is his training. | ||
| I'm telling you the reviews on YouTube by people that seem to know what the fuck they're talking about. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| His trainer looks like Fred Flintstone. | ||
| But look at this. | ||
| What he's doing. | ||
| He's doing a shrug. | ||
| That's not a swing. | ||
| That's not a swing at all. | ||
| It's not a swing. | ||
| Yeah, no wonder your back's fucked up, sir. | ||
| You can totally get fucked up doing this. | ||
| The fuck is that? | ||
| It's wrong. | ||
| And the guy had him doing leg extensions. | ||
| Well, look, the guy's obviously a big fucking guy himself. | ||
| That doesn't mean shit. | ||
| I mean, this is better than doing nothing, right? | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| But it's not optimal. | ||
| It's not the best technique. | ||
| Dude, that is the biggest kettlebell ever. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It's a big-ass kettlebell. | ||
| That looks like one of those bouncy balls that my son has. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Dude, all he's doing is swinging and then doing like an upright row. | ||
| Yeah, well, it's a shrug. | ||
| It's like he swings, he gets to where his dick is, and then he shrugs it. | ||
| It's like a shitty shrug up right row. | ||
| It sure as fuck not a kettlebell swing. | ||
| It's not a kettlebell swing. | ||
| And it's probably not good for you. | ||
| It doesn't look right. | ||
| And Steve Maxwell was furious. | ||
| When Steve Maxwell saw it, he was almost essentially calling it malpractice. | ||
| That looks horrible. | ||
| I don't have a degree in it, but that looks terrible. | ||
| I've been around the weight room my entire life. | ||
| That looks fucking terrible. | ||
| What you got with Kane is you got a fucking super athlete. | ||
| A guy who just do what you tell him and fucking push through everything. | ||
| And that's probably one of the reasons why he's been injured. | ||
| It's because he's pushed through some pain that maybe he should have laid off of. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe a discectomy for him is perfect. | ||
| Maybe it's perfect. | ||
| Maybe it's a real simple thing. | ||
| Maybe it's only sticking out a little bit on one side. | ||
| If they trim it, he'll be back to training in four weeks. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I know that for a lot of people, you can get real hasty and make a decision to jump into surgery and it's not the best decision. | ||
| Especially when there's a lot of money on the line. | ||
| Well, you have to fight, though. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| For a lot of these guys, like, they might have to fight in six months. | ||
| So you would have to get the surgery because, realistically, with six months of therapy, you might not be ready again yet. | ||
| Dude, he has to fight before six months. | ||
| The heavyweight belt's on your weight six months. | ||
| Well, if his health is on the line, he doesn't. | ||
| Flying arm triangle. | ||
| If his health is on the line, man, this guy's good, man. | ||
| What weight is this? | ||
| Is this heavyweight? | ||
| 205. This is the main card? | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| Mishka Sirkunov is the Russian guy. | ||
| He's a stud, man. | ||
| A couple one-two bodies on him. | ||
| That was pretty brutal. | ||
| Good hair. | ||
| Good hair on that guy. | ||
| I'm just saying, Joe, if he's out six months, you're going to have to have the title. | ||
| But he doesn't have the title. | ||
| You're going to have to do Steve Bear Rothwell. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You would do both of them in that time that it takes him to realistically come back. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But he's got to, I don't know, he's got to be careful. | ||
| He's just, he's still fairly young. | ||
| I mean, I think Kane's like, what, 34? | ||
| 34? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He has a lot of experience. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like it catches up. | ||
| But he could realistically fight at the highest level for the next three years. | ||
| Not with these injuries. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's real controversial, but in my experience talking to different doctors, there's doctors that say you should get surgery and there's doctors that say you should absolutely not get surgery until you've exhausted all the options. | ||
| Either way, he still won the greatest of all time. | ||
| Heavyweights. | ||
| Easily. | ||
| Well, Jake Shields, they were telling him he was fucked. | ||
| What happened here? | ||
| They were telling him he couldn't fight again, he should stop training. | ||
| And he was really mad. | ||
| He's like, these fucking doctors are so negative, man. | ||
| Because first of all, they're just regular doctors, used to dealing with regular people. | ||
| A lot of them not used to dealing with elite athletes. | ||
| And guys who are willing to go through the kind of rehab that a guy like Jake Shields is willing to go through. | ||
| Like some serious fucking pain and discomfort. | ||
| But he got through it. | ||
| He's fighting now. | ||
| He just backed out of his fight in the World Series. | ||
| Apparently it's a contract thing. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Do you know the full details? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| Apparently what it is is it's a title fight. | ||
| So if he fights for the title because Paul Harris gets stripped. | ||
| They stripped Paul Harris after the John Fitch fight because... | ||
| They say he held it too long, right? | ||
| Was it a Fitch fight? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I thought he... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He got bands. | ||
| Gouging his eyes. | ||
| Yeah, stripped him after that. | ||
| But here's the thing about the eye gouge. | ||
| You either stop the fight while it's happening... | ||
| Yeah, you don't let it go. | ||
| You can't see. | ||
| And then to strip him afterwards for eye gouges? | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| That's super unprecedented. | ||
| Well, maybe they saw tape and realized he was dragging his finger through it. | ||
| He was hiding what he was doing. | ||
| It was different than Travis Brown and Mitrione. | ||
| Travis Brown and Mitrione is very evident. | ||
| Replays, everyone saw it. | ||
| They're just like, ah, you're good. | ||
| Just keep on with one eye. | ||
| Paul Harris is a cheater. | ||
| He was cheating. | ||
| He was definitely sticking fingers in the eye. | ||
| That was a real issue. | ||
| He's a bad guy. | ||
| But what people got mad about was the Kimura. | ||
| He held the Kimura, but I don't think that was that bad because the referee was in the wrong place. | ||
| The referee fucked up. | ||
| The referee's tapping his back. | ||
| You're expecting him to recognize that that's the referee tapping his back in the middle of a ferocious cage fight. | ||
| The referee's supposed to be in between the two of them. | ||
| He's supposed to stop it. | ||
| If it was a normal guy... | ||
| He's notoriously known for it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He's done it so often. | ||
| But if it was a normal guy, like if it was you, if you had Mitrione in that same position, you hit that Kimura and you held it for that long while the referee was tapping you, I do not think you'd get the same kind of grief. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I think you would say, I was in the middle of the fight. | ||
| I didn't even realize the referee was tapping me. | ||
| I didn't see him. | ||
| Because the referee's in the wrong place. | ||
| The referee in that position is supposed to get in between the fighters. | ||
| He's supposed to be in front so he can look him in the eye while Pajaras has that Kimura. | ||
| He was out of place. | ||
| He was over here. | ||
| He's supposed to be over here. | ||
| What about Paul Harris vs. | ||
| Gary Tonin and Polaris? | ||
| Goddamn, I love that. | ||
| Polaris 3. Where's that taking place at? | ||
| How gangster is Gary Tonin? | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| I hope Gary Tonin beats him. | ||
| Polaris is a jujitsu show, a jujitsu event held in England. | ||
| It's kind of like Metamorris. | ||
| They have a bunch of single matches that are submission only. | ||
| And I think if there's no submission, it ends up being a draw at the end. | ||
| 20 minutes? | ||
| It's just like Metamorris in that respect. | ||
| I think 15, 20 minutes, something like that. | ||
| And they put on great shows, great matchups. | ||
| And, man, Gary Tonin is taking on Paharis. | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| That is so fucking gangster. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| When I saw him, I was scared. | ||
| He's the only guy that's asking for Paul Harris. | ||
| Nobody wants Paul Harris. | ||
| This is just in jiu-jitsu, right? | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| The last five guys that have fought Paul Harris, it's because they offered the fucking fight to him. | ||
| No one was going after him. | ||
| And in grappling? | ||
| Can you imagine if he leg locks Poharis? | ||
| What if he leg locks Poharis? | ||
| It's highly possible that he's going to leg lock Poharis. | ||
| But it gives you an idea how good Jake Shields was because he was beating Poharis up on the ground. | ||
| He was controlling his body completely. | ||
| Oh, Jake Shields is very good. | ||
| He's unbelievable. | ||
| Jake Shields is one of the best. | ||
| Gary Tonin, though? | ||
| When we saw him at your event, I can't remember the last time I saw something like that. | ||
| He was eating these dudes up. | ||
| Well, that leg lock game, that John Donaher leg lock game is very high level, man. | ||
| Him and Eddie, Eddie Cummins, both those guys are fucking wizards, man. | ||
| And Donaher apparently is a wizard, too. | ||
| I've never seen Donaher roll, but everybody says he's so goddamn stupid. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| It all started with Dean Lister. | ||
| Dean Lister went to Henzo's in late 90s, 2000, 2001, and Dean Lister came into the jiu-jitsu world already as a Sambo guy. | ||
| So he was always the guy, even as a white belt, as a blue belt in Southern California. | ||
| Dean, we grew up together in the jiu-jitsu world. | ||
| He was always that leg lock dude. | ||
| That Sambo guy who got into jiu-jitsu. | ||
| So that dude, Dean Lister, goes on to win Abu Dhabi, absolute leg-locking fucking everybody. | ||
| That knee bar that he hits Salo Ribeiro with, holy shit, in 2003, watch that shit. | ||
| The knee bar he hits Salo Ribeiro. | ||
| Salo Ribeiro is like one of the best ever, one of the greatest jiu-jitsu players ever. | ||
| And that knee bar that he got him with was insane. | ||
| Gary Tonin, I don't know what the current rankings are, but is he number one? | ||
| In person, he might be the best I've ever seen. | ||
| There's no real official rankings. | ||
| I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| There's a point game, and then there's a submission-only game. | ||
| But let me finish really quick. | ||
| So that guy, Dean Lister, he goes to Henzo's, and Danaher's there. | ||
| Danaher's Henzo's little prodigy. | ||
| And he leaves an impression with Danaher. | ||
| I'm sure he left a couple... | ||
| Oh, man, he's out. | ||
| Ooh, he fucked his jaw up. | ||
| And then Danaher took what he learned from Dean Lister, and he just blew that shit up, and Danaher's like a scientist. | ||
| I think he's a physicist or something. | ||
| Danaher's a rock underarm shirt or jeans. | ||
| He has his PhD in philosophy. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| He has his PhD in philosophy, and Henso used to give him... | ||
| Henso back... | ||
| This is literally, I don't know, about 2003 or whatever. | ||
| Henso, when somebody would come in to kind of challenge, and somebody was really good, he would kind of casually give... | ||
| John, he'd say, roll with John for a while and see how you do first. | ||
| And John would just, you'd watch him tap these dudes, like these really good Sambo guys or whoever they were, and he'd just, like he was moving in slow motion. | ||
| He's a minimalist, right? | ||
| Yeah, he's just really smart, man. | ||
| He was a bodybuilder or a powerlifter type physique at one point in time. | ||
| And then he was working as a bouncer and he wanted to learn martial arts to deal with in bouncing situations. | ||
| He realized, I should probably have some skills. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| He doesn't look like it now, but he's still obviously very strong. | ||
| If you look at him, he's thick and fit, but apparently he used to be really big. | ||
| Damn, I saw my UFC event. | ||
| He was at the bar afterwards, and he had on a fucking rash guard and some jeans tucked in. | ||
| He wore a rash guard. | ||
| No fucks given either. | ||
| He does it all the time. | ||
| That's for his wedding. | ||
| That's his thing. | ||
| He wears rash guards everywhere. | ||
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So gangster. | |
| I always see him every time. | ||
| He was in Whole Foods in New York. | ||
| Look who he's created. | ||
| Eddie Cummings, Gary Tonin. | ||
| Because Gary Tonin went to Henzo's to train with Danner. | ||
| And he didn't have any leg locks. | ||
| He was all rear naked choke. | ||
| He had his basic. | ||
| He was already a black belt. | ||
| He went to Danner. | ||
| That's when he started learning the leg locks from him. | ||
| And through Eddie Cummings. | ||
| Him and Eddie Cummings just became best friends and training partners. | ||
| I was so impressed with Gary Tonin, man. | ||
| I took privates from John Danner. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, probably five, six. | ||
| And now they got this new guy, Gordon Ryan, who just got his black belt. | ||
| He's fucking amazing as well. | ||
| That's the new guy. | ||
| You're gonna hear about Gordon Ryan. | ||
| He's got monsters at Henzo's, huh? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know who's another leg lock master that people forget? | ||
| Dave Terrell. | ||
| You remember Dave Terrell versus Ricardo Almeida in 2003 in Abu Dhabi? | ||
| I don't remember that. | ||
| Dude, Dave Terrell had some nasty ass fucking leg locks. | ||
| Dave Terrell was so explosive. | ||
| I've heard legendary stories about him in the training room. | ||
| He's the best ever. | ||
| Seeing him compete, watching him in Abu Dhabi, I always expected he was going to be UFC champion because he went into MMA and started smashing people. | ||
| He knocked out Matt Lindland in the first round. | ||
| But Evan Tanner got him. | ||
| And he also had a series of catastrophic ear injuries. | ||
| He had to have his ear removed from his head. | ||
| He had staff inside his head. | ||
| From his ear. | ||
| His ears were just gonzo, right? | ||
| They were like these just fucking ashtrays on his head, hard as a rock, just all cauliflowered up. | ||
| But apparently, like, just years and years of hard training, he got an infection inside his ear. | ||
| And they had to take it off his body. | ||
| They had to take his whole fucking ear off his head, clean it all out, like, try to fuse it and swab it and cauterize it to get it to stop oozing pus. | ||
| You know you trannel out when your ear falls off. | ||
| Didn't work. | ||
| They had to do it again. | ||
| He went through like... | ||
| When your ear is fucked, have you ever had an earache or a real bad ear function? | ||
| Your equilibrium's off. | ||
| You can't do shit. | ||
| He's like a mythical creature in NorCal. | ||
| I have so many crazy stories about that guy. | ||
| I saw him compete. | ||
| I was like, that fucking guy moves like a ghost. | ||
| He's fast as fuck. | ||
| And his students, one of them, Joe Soto, they're so good at leg lock defense. | ||
| Joe Soto, generally when you game plan against Eddie Cummings, the game plan is stay away from any kind of footsie battles. | ||
| You don't want to battle with Eddie. | ||
| That's the game plan. | ||
| Avoid it. | ||
| Try to do the super basic jujitsu strategy like what I think it was Lucas Dupree in Abu Dhabi did to Gary Tonin. | ||
| It was either Lucas Dupree or Leandro Lowe. | ||
| I get those guys mixed up all the time. | ||
| But one of those guys in Abu Dhabi went against Gary Tonin and he just straight knee slice, boom, stayed tight, stayed in side control, top half. | ||
| Titan never let Gary get anywhere near his legs. | ||
| You know, that's the game plan against a leg lock guy like Eddie Cummings. | ||
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| You try to play footsies with him, you're retarded. | ||
| But Joe Soto, he went in there in the finals at EBI 3. He went in there and just said, he sat on his ass and said, I'm going to play footsies with Eddie Cummings. | ||
| And it worked for a long time. | ||
| Everybody was just blown away. | ||
| It's like, how the fuck is he leaving his legs out there for, you know, Eddie Cummins, Grafter's legs, and Joe Soto just displayed just this incredible defense, his leg lock defense. | ||
| I was reffing going, what the fuck? | ||
| Is he really playing footsies with Eddie Cummins? | ||
| He ended up getting caught. | ||
| Eddie Cummins did catch him, but... | ||
| He showed tremendous fucking savagery for going in there and playing legs with him. | ||
| And I talked to him afterwards and he said, dude, I roll with Dave Terrell all the goddamn time. | ||
| That guy's always after our legs. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| We're used to this shit. | ||
| Yeah, it's kill or be killed if you're in a leg lock type academy. | ||
| Speaking of submissions. | ||
| But Cummings knees all fucked up now. | ||
| How about your boy Barnett and Rothwell? | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Who the fuck called that? | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Insane. | ||
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| Insane. | ||
| Apparently when Rothwell gets a hold of your neck, he just knows how to squeeze that choke. | ||
| Well, he was showing me what he got him in. | ||
| Ugh, that's horrible. | ||
| I don't know how his hands are, though. | ||
| I don't know how he's gripping his hands. | ||
| I don't know how it is either. | ||
| It's a ten-finger guillotine, essentially, but his jiu-jitsu coach wanted to call it a go-go choke. | ||
| Horrifying. | ||
| Because it goes against your throat, sort of like a go-go plata. | ||
| There's no one hotter in the UFC division, heavyweight division right now, than Rothwell's the beast. | ||
| He's the beast. | ||
| Good luck beating that guy right now with that confidence. | ||
| Stipe's the beast too, though. | ||
| It's real close. | ||
| After Stipe destroyed Orlovsky like that, Stipe's right in there, man. | ||
| We'll face Mickey Gall later this year. | ||
| Yeah, Mickey Gall apparently won earlier tonight. | ||
| Yeah, he did. | ||
| I was hearing a lot of criticisms about the fight. | ||
| They had a face-off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| CM Punk walked in. | ||
| He was the first prelim ever to have a face-off. | ||
| I just feel like... | ||
| I don't know why he would want to do that. | ||
| I feel like if he was smart, he would just start fighting in small organizations. | ||
| I get that you want to get a lot of money because the UFC is where it's at with money. | ||
| But I would think the smart move is what he's already done training-wise. | ||
| Go to a real camp. | ||
| He goes to Rufus. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Rufus is going to teach him how to strike as good as anybody in the world. | ||
| And then you got real good wrestling with Ben Askren. | ||
| You got real good jiu-jitsu. | ||
| You got everything there. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Everything there. | ||
| He's fine. | ||
| I heard they offered him to go through the Tough show. | ||
| And he's like, nah, man, I'm trying to go right to the show. | ||
| So I think Tough would have been better for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You get ratings. | ||
| We see how he does. | ||
| He gets warm-up. | ||
| And then, you know, then he goes. | ||
| But for your first fight to be in that octagon, good fucking luck, man. | ||
| Who's Mickey Gauzy Tough? | ||
| Well, he's a newcomer. | ||
| They found him on that looking for a fight show on HBO on YouTube in a small organization. | ||
| What are you looking for, Eddie? | ||
| He's a brown belt. | ||
| Brown belt's significant. | ||
| Is he a brown belt? | ||
| That's what I read earlier today after he won. | ||
| I didn't see him fight. | ||
| He won by submission. | ||
| They said he was a brown belt. | ||
| I heard blue and purple. | ||
| The UFC said brown belt, so I don't know. | ||
| Well, he might have got his brown right before the fight. | ||
| Either way, that's three more belts ahead of CM Punk. | ||
| That shit goes to the ground. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's a big difference. | ||
| Who knows what CM Punk's been able to do. | ||
| He's been training for over a year. | ||
| Dude, can you imagine if CM Punk goes in and just gets murked? | ||
| It'd be like from the Waterboy when Michigan put in the Waterboy, the actual Waterboy. | ||
| He certainly could, right? | ||
| He could totally get murked. | ||
| Who knows if this kid can strike? | ||
| If he can strike, if the kid has good jiu-jitsu and he can strike, good luck learning how to strike in a year. | ||
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| If a guy doesn't have any striking under him, can you imagine? | ||
| Or wrestling or jiu-jitsu? | ||
| Some dude who's got some serious knockout power and you're going to practice for a year. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| Dude, I like CM Punk as a person, but for the sport, I think it's best if he gets murked. | ||
| Is that fucked up? | ||
| And that's going to make headlines? | ||
| I'm happy when anybody says it gets murked. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I like when you go, get starched. | ||
| I forget. | ||
| Is there anything worse? | ||
| You and I are arguing about Rumble and Jon Jones. | ||
| You never know, man. | ||
| Rumble could starch him. | ||
| And when he said starch, I was like, oh. | ||
| He could. | ||
| He could. | ||
| Rumble could starch anybody. | ||
| Anybody in the world. | ||
| Rumble can hit you on the temple and your shit could just go boing, boing, boing. | ||
| I think Jon mobs the floor. | ||
| He has the biggest head, the longest steepie I've ever seen on Rumble. | ||
| He could. | ||
| Rumble's head is gigantic. | ||
| It's a big fucking head. | ||
| If he connects against Jon Jones, it's... | ||
| I don't think he will, though. | ||
| I think Jon takes him down, wears him out, and takes his heart. | ||
| People forget that Stipe got stopped by Skyscraper. | ||
| Stefan Struve, back in the day. | ||
| Knocked him out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did an inside leg kick, boom! | ||
| Knocked him out. | ||
| Stefan Struve, man, he's had some real tough fights. | ||
| There's a guy who's had some real tough fights. | ||
| He's had some, like, brutal knockout losses. | ||
| Horrible losses. | ||
| And he's seven foot tall. | ||
| For sure played basketball. | ||
| Back in the day, the kid had some mad potential, and still does. | ||
| He's only 26, 27, right? | ||
| He has so many fights, though, man. | ||
| His age is not what I count. | ||
| I count he has, what, 40 fights, some shit? | ||
| Yeah, he's had some ruthless knockouts inside the Oxagon. | ||
| And when's the last time you saw a seven-foot-tall grandpa? | ||
| Anyone. | ||
| Go. | ||
| They don't live long. | ||
| Anybody? | ||
| Anybody? | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| Although we still have one giant guy. | ||
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And he has heart conditions. | |
| No. | ||
| Yeah, they all have heart conditions. | ||
| They're just too big. | ||
| I wonder if they can mitigate that today. | ||
| I wonder if they understand what it is. | ||
| Nah, you're dying You're pretty tall You're tall Hey bro, you're tall Eddie and I are nowhere near something for you You both are going to be 100 I'm on the back nine for sure Well, you know what, though? | ||
| Honestly, do you really want to live past 80? | ||
| Fucking right, I do. | ||
| What kind of dog shit, arthritis-ridden existence is that? | ||
| Oh, my brain will be open. | ||
| Former athlete past 80? | ||
| Oh, good lord. | ||
| You're fucked. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| I said, 40 years from now, who the fuck knows what kind of crazy medicine you're going to have? | ||
| Yeah, my son goes, Daddy, what's going to happen when I'm 45? | ||
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And he asked me that for real, and I said, shit. | |
| You'll be a computer. | ||
| I'm probably going to be dead. | ||
| That's what I said. | ||
| I just don't want to be dead when you come out with this technology. | ||
| I thought about that. | ||
| He's going to be 45. Look at that, son. | ||
| April 23rd. | ||
| Sorry, I just got to call this out. | ||
| April 23rd. | ||
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I'm GM. John Johns has been lifting weights. | |
| Hey, I love how John's lifting weights. | ||
| Everyone's like, nah, he's a good guy now. | ||
| Everything's all good. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he posts pictures lifting weights? | ||
| He's a fucking monster now. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| John Johns is ridiculous. | ||
| Good luck beating him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't think Rumble's going to wait for a title shot. | ||
| He said he's not. | ||
| I wouldn't wait to eat if I was Rumble. | ||
| I would. | ||
| Get some quick work in. | ||
| And if he got busted with coke again... | ||
| Dude, Ryan Bader, I love the guy where he said, oh shit, that ain't snowflake. | ||
| That motherfucker came right in, shot a low single, and just stayed on it. | ||
| And also... | ||
| Hanging on to a Kimura. | ||
| Damn, look at this. | ||
| Against a big guy, Cejudo. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Johnson versus Cejudo. | ||
| Oh, that's happening. | ||
| That's the co-main event. | ||
| This is the first time hearing of this. | ||
| Is that the Olympic wrestler? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| The gold medalist, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The gold medalist. | ||
| He said, those guys are super small. | ||
| He's a fucking beast. | ||
| I was like, I was going, ooh. | ||
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125. Oh, that's right, 125. That's the girls division. | |
| Those guys are quick! | ||
| That's what I say. | ||
| What were we talking about? | ||
| This guy's a scramble. | ||
| What were we talking about? | ||
| They can hustle. | ||
| They can hustle. | ||
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They better be. | |
| What were we just talking about? | ||
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Cormier. | |
| Cormier, Rumble. | ||
| And John Jones. | ||
| Oh, quick work. | ||
| Ryan Bader. | ||
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Oh, fuck. | |
| Him trying to finish that Kimura. | ||
| That's a hard move to pull off on a strong dude as it is. | ||
| Right? | ||
| A guy as strong as Rumble who's on top and you don't even have half guard. | ||
| He panicked, I think. | ||
| Because he had no control of his legs. | ||
| When he was holding onto it, he had to do something with his legs. | ||
| He just didn't have the dexterity to get into a position like a half guard or something and then get up to the dogfight, right? | ||
| Rumble said, what the fuck is this? | ||
| He got empty half at one point, right? | ||
| He climbed up the full mount. | ||
| Well, the problem is he's so fucking strong. | ||
| Explosive, too. | ||
| And in the beginning of the round, he's 100%. | ||
| He's not even remotely tired. | ||
| I jumped a guard on his ass. | ||
| And he's on your back. | ||
| Or he's got you on your back. | ||
| He's on top of you. | ||
| And you know one of those punches is going to change your life. | ||
| One punch. | ||
| Just one. | ||
| You gotta be really good on your back. | ||
| That's all that is. | ||
| You gotta be really fucking nervous. | ||
| Or you take him down. | ||
| It looked grim. | ||
| Like Jon Jones is going down. | ||
| It looked grim right there. | ||
| He couldn't take him down. | ||
| He tried to take an ankle pick. | ||
| No, I'm saying Jon Jones is gonna take Rumble down. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I promise you he's gonna inside trip him, take him down. | ||
| He might. | ||
| He's gonna break him and then TKO him. | ||
| He might. | ||
| He might not. | ||
| Man, you're so confident. | ||
| Yeah, how could you say that? | ||
| You're so confident. | ||
| Who the fuck knows what's going to happen? | ||
| Damn. | ||
| That's what I think's going to happen. | ||
| Rumble is getting better and better, and now that he's training with Neil Melanson, he's getting his grappling in order. | ||
| I hear you, Joe. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
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He's a monster. | |
| Johnson, was Johnson a Juco champion? | ||
| He's going to get hypnotized. | ||
| He might. | ||
| You thought about it. | ||
| He was the champion. | ||
| He might. | ||
| He has the skills to starch anyone, in the words of Joe Rogan, but... | ||
| Yeah, he's got the skills to stiffen them all up. | ||
| It's whether or not he can apply it against the very best of the best. | ||
| But he's at this edge. | ||
| Like, I don't think he's done improving. | ||
| So he's at this edge right now where only a guy like Cormier can beat him. | ||
| Because everybody else, Jimmy Manoa, everybody gets the fuck beat out of him. | ||
| Gustafson gets the fuck beat out of him. | ||
| I disagree! | ||
| They fight? | ||
| I think it's 5-5. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
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Gustafson? | |
| Gustafson got headbutted. | ||
| Gustafson and Rumble Johnson's a good fight, matchup-wise. | ||
| Gustafson got headbutted, actually. | ||
| They had one fight, and he... | ||
| He got starched. | ||
| Yeah, he smashed him. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I'm saying that doesn't happen every time. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I don't know what happens every time. | ||
| You've got a good point. | ||
| What makes you think that that wouldn't happen again? | ||
| No one knows. | ||
| It might not happen every time, but with the data that we have currently available... | ||
| Scary guy who knocks everybody dead. | ||
| He knocked him dead. | ||
| And so you gotta think, okay, first of all, the kind of beating that Gustafson took in that fight, you don't want to take again. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| That was a bad beating. | ||
| How about the data with DC Anthony Johnson? | ||
| Brace, he broke him. | ||
| He definitely broke him. | ||
| So when I see a guy break, now I look at Jon Jones, who's broken everybody, including DC, broke DC. Let's not get it twisted. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Let's look at the data we have here. | ||
| Yes, we're assuming. | ||
| According to the data. | ||
| Right, but we're not talking about him. | ||
| We're talking about Gustafsson. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Jamie, pull up that headbutt though. | ||
| Yeah, but that was a monster fucking fight. | ||
| It definitely looks like they collided. | ||
| And everybody can get broken. | ||
| Everybody can get broken. | ||
| There's always going to be a guy that's going to break you. | ||
| There's always going to be multiple guys that can break you. | ||
| No, the great ones don't get broke. | ||
| Because they don't fight anybody that much better than them. | ||
| Because they're great. | ||
| Vince Lombardi said, fatigue makes cowards of us all. | ||
| It does. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Look how fatigued John was against Gustvin. | ||
| Of men, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've thought of that all the time. | ||
| Yeah, it makes me a pussy. | ||
| When you're tired, I turn into such a pussy. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Cardio. | ||
| Cardio, shit. | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
| But you know what, man? | ||
| I've been getting into this straight cardio over the last few months. | ||
| I've been doing these hardcore cardio workouts just because I hate them. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| What kind of cardio? | ||
| These ridiculous sprints. | ||
| Not like a Tabata protocol, but I do a 30-second on, 30-second off on an elliptical machine. | ||
| I adjust it from 16, which is pretty hard, pretty stiff, to 20, which is like you're wrestling this fucking thing. | ||
| And I'll do these death sprints. | ||
| 30 and 30? | ||
| That's good. | ||
| For how many, though? | ||
| You have 30 on, 30 off? | ||
| It depends on what I'm trying to do. | ||
| But I do a 45-minute workout. | ||
| And what I'm doing, the 45-minute workout, the first 15 minutes, I'm just getting everything ramped up. | ||
| So the first 15 minutes, there's no sprints. | ||
| The first 15 minutes, just keeping it on 16 and going at a very fast pace. | ||
| Then once I get to the first 15 minutes and I'm sweating, then it's death runs. | ||
| I go on these 30-second death runs. | ||
| For a whole 30 minutes. | ||
| Depending upon how long I can last, how many death runs I can do. | ||
| Because sometimes I can't do the death runs. | ||
| I just have to just pace myself at 16. But then when I feel like I've got my heart rate down, because my elliptical thing has got a little heart rate thing. | ||
| What kind of elliptical do you have that can take this fucking beast of a workout? | ||
| Well, they all can. | ||
| Everybody uses elliptical machines. | ||
| They just kind of go steady. | ||
| But if you go on a death run, you gotta go on a save your life, save your loved one, save your mom from fucking- Who makes you do that, though? | ||
| I do it. | ||
| I just do it. | ||
| No, but I mean like- Who makes you? | ||
| Like when you sprint. | ||
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When you sprint. | |
| My inner insecurity of being weak. | ||
| Can't you think you're sprinting, but you're like, during the sprint time, you're like, you know what? | ||
| No, man, I'm fucking sprinting. | ||
| I'm going as fast as I can, whatever. | ||
| No, there's a number. | ||
| There's a number of revolutions per minute. | ||
| And I want to keep it above a certain number. | ||
| I don't remember what it is at 180 or at 20. But it's somewhere where you want your heart rate to be somewhere around 180. And I forget what the revolutions are because they're different on the one that I use at the gym versus the one that I use at home. | ||
| But you can have a number where you can keep it at that number. | ||
| So it's like 147, I think. | ||
| So when you hit 147, you just got to fucking keep it there for that 30 seconds. | ||
| And it's big, deep Wim Hof breaths the whole time. | ||
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It's just... | |
| And just wrestle this thing for 30 seconds. | ||
| You know what's a nightmare? | ||
| And then relax. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what's a nightmare is setting just a little something. | ||
| Set the treadmill at 15 incline and put it at 4 miles an hour and walk. | ||
| Walk for 15 minutes. | ||
| Try to stay on that pace. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| It'll kill you. | ||
| Have I talked about the cardio I did for metamorphosis? | ||
| Yeah, the sprinting in the pool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| Yeah, but death runs. | ||
| Death runs and recovery. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| The thing about the pool thing, though, is the way I did it was there's a giant clock, and every time it hits 12, you sprint across the pool. | ||
| So when you get to the end of the pool, whatever's left in that minute, you get to rest. | ||
| So when you're doing that, No one has to tell you bust ass. | ||
| You're busting ass to rest. | ||
| Because you know after... | ||
| The first maybe six laps are easy. | ||
| As soon as the clock hits 12, you bust ass across the pool. | ||
| You sprint. | ||
| You get past and it's like you got 35 seconds to rest. | ||
| And then you rest and you do it back. | ||
| As soon as it hits the 12, boom. | ||
| After like 12, you're dead in the pool. | ||
| And no matter how chaotic your breathing is, you got... | ||
| No matter how tired you are you got to keep your breathing on point because to swim your shit so you got you're like dying But at the same time there's something in your mind that you're on dude Survival mode you're dying, but your breathing's got to be perfect that you're gonna swallow water You're gonna swallow water and you that to me was super fucking crucial. | ||
| It's great for grappling. | ||
| Yeah, exactly wrestling with no matter what and You're breathing. | ||
| No matter how chaotic your situation is, you practice breathing in chaotic situations. | ||
| Because if you hiccup at all, you swallow water. | ||
| This is a good fight. | ||
| Zach Makovsky and Joseph Benavidez. | ||
| This is a very good fight. | ||
| I've been looking forward to this. | ||
| Benavidez gets another title shot, you think? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| He's down at Muscle Farm, and he's training with Bang again. | ||
| Doing all his training with Bang. | ||
| I don't know what's going on with those guys in Sacramento. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| How often they're going to... | ||
| Him and Lance Palmer have been bouncing all over. | ||
| I don't mean to cut you off, Joe. | ||
| Him and Lance Palmer have been bouncing all over. | ||
| They went to Jackson's. | ||
| They went to Muscle Farm. | ||
| At Muscle Farm, they've got a hell of a team down there. | ||
| TJ, Lance Palmer, Benavidez, Neil Magny, Thatch. | ||
| Well, Benavidez has got to do what he's got to do. | ||
| I mean, he doesn't have many years left. | ||
| I think he's in his 30s as well. | ||
| I think he's 34. But at 125, well, what if he loses to McCoskey tonight? | ||
| He beats this guy, I bet. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| McCoskey just took him down. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Let's say he fights DJ for a third time and he loses. | ||
| Hey, man, we can't do four. | ||
| I'm sorry, we can't do four. | ||
| We've got to move on. | ||
| Well, what does he do then? | ||
| That's a real question. | ||
| Open the gym. | ||
| Did you see fucking Justin Scoggins today? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| He looks fantastic. | ||
| Justin fucking Scoggins. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That karate style? | ||
| I didn't know shit about him, dude. | ||
| I'm not like you guys. | ||
| I'm not like an encyclopedia right now. | ||
| There's too many UFCs. | ||
| I can barely keep up. | ||
| I didn't know who the fuck he was, but I saw him for the first time today, the prelim. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| And I was thinking, holy shit. | ||
| Against Ray Borg. | ||
| Ray Borg's a motherfucker. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Before the fight started, they had mentioned, because Scroggins thinks he has the best movement in MMA. And I'm like, oh my motherfucking God, how retarded can this guy be? | ||
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The best movement in MMA? You fucking retard! | |
| And then after one round, I'm like, okay, he might have a point here. | ||
| Let me see another round! | ||
| Can you keep the pace? | ||
| And then he looked really good on the ground. | ||
| His ground looked decent. | ||
| His wrestling was good. | ||
| And his striking was just like coming from all sorts. | ||
| He's fighting left-handed. | ||
| He's fighting right-handed. | ||
| He's throwing every kick and spinning everything. | ||
| Like, holy shit! | ||
| He's one of the best guys at standing in that sideways karate-style stance and using the front leg, too. | ||
| Front leg sidekicks your thigh. | ||
| Front leg sidekicks your body. | ||
| Super talented. | ||
| I don't know if Brian Stan was correct or not, but he was talking about how... | ||
| And I don't know, like I said, I don't know anything about Scroggins, but Brian Stan was saying that when he fights... | ||
| Southpaw, he fights more karate, and when he fights orthodox, he's fighting more Muay Thai or something like that. | ||
| When he's fighting right hand, this style. | ||
| When he's fighting left hand, this style. | ||
| Like, holy shit, how cool is that? | ||
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That's a great style, but he changes it up. | |
| Like, right here, I feel good Muay Thai. | ||
| Right here, I'm a karate guy. | ||
| Well, you know why? | ||
| Like, holy fuck! | ||
| That's amazing! | ||
| Because his sideways stance allows him to use that front leg. | ||
| So if you're fighting a guy that doesn't know, like, that style, he can get away with a lot of shit. | ||
| Like, if you're used to a guy who's fighting Muay Thai style with that light front leg and more of a closed-off stance, You can get away with that with a Muay Thai guy, but with a karate guy, he'll stand sideways. | ||
| He'll stand sideways and throw those fucking front leg sidekicks, and you don't know what to do. | ||
| He throws them from way outside. | ||
| A lot of these Muay Thai style guys, they're standing right in front of each other. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Forward backwards, north-south. | ||
| He's all over the place. | ||
| It's tough to train for, man. | ||
| I've never heard of anybody describe a fighter like that. | ||
| Have you ever heard of that before? | ||
| I think Scoggins probably told him that. | ||
| He probably had a conversation with him about the different ways he utilizes it. | ||
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But have you heard that before? | |
| I've never heard that before. | ||
| But it makes sense if you see how good he is. | ||
| There's a lot of guys that switch, but they switch, they're playing the same shit. | ||
| This guy has two different characters. | ||
| Like, holy shit! | ||
| Well, you know who else is super versatile at being able to switch back and forth? | ||
| Connor. | ||
| Connor's a wizard. | ||
| I was going to say, former Strikeforce champion, just fought, welterweight, goddammit. | ||
| Yes, Tarek Safferdeen. | ||
| Tarek Safferdeen is a wizard at going back and forth. | ||
| Karate stage is so good. | ||
| Is he a Dutch kickboxer? | ||
| What is he? | ||
| No, not Dutch. | ||
| He is from... | ||
| Germany. | ||
| He's a German kickboxer. | ||
| No, not from Germany. | ||
| He's Turkish. | ||
| Turk, I think, is Turkish, right, Stephanie? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I want to say Belgium. | ||
| Yes, he's from Brussels. | ||
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Yeah, it's Belgium. | |
| That's correct. | ||
| He's from Brussels. | ||
| He's from where Van Damme is. | ||
| Muscles from muscles. | ||
| Well, there you go. | ||
| I fucking love me some Van Damme. | ||
| And there you go. | ||
| I love me Van Damme. | ||
| He's the reason I fought, man. | ||
| I want to meet him. | ||
| I've seen him a couple times. | ||
| That Van Damme movie was brilliant. | ||
| I've seen him a couple times in Venice. | ||
| Have you seen that movie? | ||
| And he's got tight jeans on always. | ||
| A beautiful butt. | ||
| And a fanny pack. | ||
| And a fanny pack, son. | ||
| A bubble butt with a fanny pack. | ||
| Back in the day, he wore a fanny pack. | ||
| No, he still has one. | ||
| He still rocks one? | ||
| He lives in Marina del Rey. | ||
| I live in Marina del Rey. | ||
| I see him all the time driving. | ||
| Now you like him. | ||
| I don't want to super fake him. | ||
| Now you're sending good shit about him. | ||
| I said before, I want to meet him. | ||
| He's all over him now. | ||
| I said before, I want to meet him. | ||
| He's a dime piece. | ||
| We should have him on a companion. | ||
| We should have him on a companion. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| I only wear silk underwear. | ||
| He lives near here? | ||
| Marina Del Rey. | ||
| Jean-Claude Van Damme on this show would be fucking amazing. | ||
| When I come back, when I decide to make my comeback against the Thai world champion. | ||
| He's been talking about making a comeback for like 10 years. | ||
| Did he actually fight? | ||
| No. | ||
| Listen to me. | ||
| He was a dancer. | ||
| If you want to see something that is amazing that no one talks about, you need to watch the Jean-Claude Van Damme reality show. | ||
| Oh, I watch it. | ||
| It is fucking wonderful. | ||
| I've never seen it. | ||
| You talking about JBCD? It's so crazy. | ||
|
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The movie was great. | |
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I've never seen that. | ||
| It's a reality show. | ||
| The reality show is insanity in motion. | ||
| I love that you've seen this. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| I made my wife watch it with me. | ||
| What's it like? | ||
| Or YouTube. | ||
| I'm like, come watch how crazy people can be. | ||
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It's on YouTube! | |
| It's the best. | ||
| Well, I think it aired in another country. | ||
| Showtime picked it up. | ||
| It might have aired. | ||
| Showtime picked it up. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| What is revealed? | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| He's amazing? | ||
| He keeps talking about having this fight that he's been scheduling for years. | ||
| He's this Thai guy. | ||
| He pays this Thai guy, gives him a little scratch. | ||
| My friend, come on, hugging. | ||
| We're never fighting. | ||
| We're never fighting. | ||
| Don't touch my face! | ||
| Don't touch my face! | ||
| And he pretends he's gonna fight this guy and they fucking knuckle up. | ||
| They have these press conferences. | ||
| He goes, I've got to fight for the children. | ||
| He's batshit crazy. | ||
| He does this speech about having to fight for the children. | ||
| I'm done with the cocaine. | ||
| I'm done with this. | ||
| I'm done with the party. | ||
| That motherfucker needs better friends. | ||
|
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He's incredible. | |
| What he does is he gets gacked. | ||
| He gets gacked to the gills on coke, and he goes to parties with Russian oligarchs. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| They fly him out to Chechnya, he goes to a fucking disco with a fucking champagne bottle in both hands, and he wakes up in the morning and he feels bad. | ||
| He feels bad that the children have done this to the children. | ||
| I'm going to fight to show them. | ||
| I still have it. | ||
| You gotta watch it. | ||
| Dude, I gotta watch it. | ||
| JC may be on the show. | ||
| He's bad shit crazy. | ||
| That's never gonna happen now. | ||
| He's bad shit crazy. | ||
|
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No! | |
| He will have it. | ||
|
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He still loves me. | |
| Hey, how's he flying private? | ||
| How's he flying private everywhere? | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He's got money and everybody made it. | ||
| He made a lot of movies, dude. | ||
| A lot of money. | ||
| That last movie was great. | ||
| He made a lot of money. | ||
| Yeah, but that last movie probably made eight dollars. | ||
| He paid $70 for that last movie. | ||
| All those other movies that he made his whole life, if he was just reasonably frugal, he has hundreds of millions of dollars. | ||
| He's got a lot of money. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| A lot of money. | ||
| How much money did he make over his career? | ||
| Time Cop, baby. | ||
| That was Blockbuster. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Time Cop. | ||
| I remember when it was a Blockbuster. | ||
| I went to go see it on that Friday night and we had to get the early blood sport. | ||
| Here's something you have to consider. | ||
| He's Elvis in Eastern Europe. | ||
| Here's something you have to consider. | ||
| Ownership of the movies. | ||
| Sales of the movies. | ||
| He existed back in the day where people bought DVDs. | ||
| Oh shit, this is a good fight. | ||
| Makovsky on top. | ||
| He existed back in the day of Blockbuster. | ||
| Back in the day where people would buy movies. | ||
| So you get a percentage You get a percentage of that? | ||
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You get a percentage of that. | |
| You get a percentage of it when they sell it to Showtime, HBO, Cinemax, TVS, all that shit. | ||
| He got a percentage of all that. | ||
| I guarantee you. | ||
| He was producing, he was a part of the ownership of those films. | ||
| He might have made an ungodly amount of money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Brian, could you beat up John Carlson? | ||
| How much did he make? | ||
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Jamie. | |
| I don't think anybody can beat up John Carlson. | ||
| Hold on, Jamie. | ||
| Jamie. | ||
| I'm seeing a lot of information online, but something I just found said he is the... | ||
| Top 10 highest paid actors for 2016 with an estimated $82 million in combined earnings. | ||
|
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Fuck off! | |
| But let's look at his overall earnings. | ||
| That's what I'm asking. | ||
|
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He's still making money? | |
| He made $82 million last year? | ||
| Dude, I'm telling you. | ||
| No wonder he's doing coke. | ||
| Sales. | ||
| $245 million. | ||
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$245 million. | |
| Come on. | ||
| $1 million. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| If you gave me $100 million, I'd do a little coke every now and then. | ||
| He still looks good. | ||
| He still looks good. | ||
| I saw him flying private. | ||
| I was like, oh, he's being stupid with his money. | ||
|
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No, he's fine. | |
| No, he's balling. | ||
| No, he's fine. | ||
| Dude, he's Scrooge McDuck Rich. | ||
| He owns a football team and vodka. | ||
| And perfume. | ||
| He does? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| A lot of money in football. | ||
| No wonder he's still fighting! | ||
| Jean-Claude Van Damme! | ||
| I got two million dollars! | ||
|
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Vive! | |
| Vive Jean-Claude Van Damme! | ||
| You bitches need to stay in your lane. | ||
|
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I love that guy. | |
| He's my hero. | ||
| He's got so much money he could pay the guy to fight where they can choreograph. | ||
| He's paying them to show up and choreograph the fight. | ||
| They don't choreograph a fight, but they choreograph press conferences. | ||
| He would fuck up everyone in this room. | ||
| I think maybe he's thought about actually fighting about three or four times, but most of the time, what it is, is just getting together and saying that you're thinking about fighting, and you've got to schedule a fight, but I have movies to attend to. | ||
| Did you ever see the deposition he did? | ||
| He blinded somebody in one of his movies with a wheel kick, and he had to do a deposition at a trial about how... | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Fuck, he's brilliant. | ||
|
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Look at him. | |
| Hey, who's better looking, him or Jody? | ||
| That's not real. | ||
| Oh, he's definitely not as good-looking as Alan now. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| But back in the day... | ||
| I'm saying now. | ||
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Prime. | |
| Prime Jean-Claude Van Damme. | ||
| In the day, it was really close. | ||
| Yeah, let's not get crazy, though. | ||
| Jean-Claude Van Damme all day. | ||
| No, he ain't doing Versace. | ||
|
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Fuck! | |
| He's got a great number. | ||
| I don't see none of that shit. | ||
| There's no one better-looking than Alan Joban. | ||
| They're just different. | ||
| You don't get better-looking. | ||
| You just don't. | ||
| McCoste's on Benavides' back! | ||
| Oh shit, look at this. | ||
| Meanwhile, we don't have any idea who won. | ||
| If any of you fuckers try to say, Benavidez get robbed or Bacardi got robbed... | ||
| No, I've been watching it! | ||
| I think Benavidez is ahead! | ||
| If the decision comes out, we would do a worse job than, you know, name your least favorite judge. | ||
| I got Benavidez ahead because he's... | ||
| Oh, shut the fuck up! | ||
|
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You had your right shoulder turned to the screen the entire time. | |
| No, I can feel it. | ||
| I can feel it. | ||
|
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I can feel it. | |
| Do you have the jeans on? | ||
| Do you put the jeans on, man? | ||
| Take those sweats off. | ||
| Put those jeans on right now, sir. | ||
| I got Brian Callen a pair of the barbell jeans, so props to barbell jeans. | ||
| Eddie Bravo just took the second large glass of vino. | ||
| This is not a large glass. | ||
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Large. | |
| Large. | ||
| How is this large? | ||
| How is that large? | ||
| Well, if you were in a fine restaurant. | ||
| Dude, that's a double, son. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
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This would be like a kid's glass. | |
| He pours a slight sipping thing. | ||
| This is a delicious wine, by the way. | ||
| They are really nice. | ||
| That's the best can't eat there. | ||
| Let me tell you something about Callan. | ||
| This motherfucker knows his wine. | ||
| I've gone to dinner with him, and he gets in a conversation with this sommelier. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| And he says, what do you have in a Burgundy from 97? | ||
| And the guy goes, oh shit, this motherfucker's for real. | ||
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Yeah, bitch. | |
| And then Callan will start talking about different grapes that are grown on different hillsides, and he'll explain. | ||
| Guys, what the fuck, man? | ||
| He'll explain some shit to the Somalia. | ||
| We ate at this restaurant and the Somalia was like, yes, correct, that's correct. | ||
| He started talking about... | ||
| Oh my god, I gotta work on your technique. | ||
| Your sidekick is... | ||
| You gotta pick your knee up higher. | ||
| I think Jean-Claude Van Damme wears those too, though, for sure. | ||
| You have to put your knee up higher. | ||
| They look good, baby. | ||
| It has nothing to do with stretching. | ||
| You just haven't thrown a sidekick in a while. | ||
| It's a little rusty. | ||
| You can do it. | ||
| Are you going to put your socks on before you kick? | ||
| Why do you want to put your socks on? | ||
| Does that help your kicking? | ||
| You like to kick with shoes on? | ||
| Do you still wear those shiny shoes so that you can throw roundhouse kicks quicker because you pivot? | ||
| If you have a shiny soul, like, that's terrible. | ||
| You gotta pick your knee up. | ||
| You have a, no, see, it's not bad, but you have an inherent flaw in your technique that probably was never, never explained to you. | ||
| For 49, though, it ain't bad. | ||
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That's pretty good. | |
| It's not right. | ||
| I wouldn't want to get hit by that. | ||
| I wouldn't want to get hit by that. | ||
| You'd get hit in the dick. | ||
| Yeah, if you got hit right in the shaft. | ||
| That's where you would get hit. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Brian's throwing spinning kicks right now. | ||
| Dude, it's wrong. | ||
| Those jeans are helping though. | ||
| Are you being serious there? | ||
| Are you being serious? | ||
| Show me a real front leg sidekick. | ||
| For real. | ||
| The best I can do right now. | ||
| All bullshit. | ||
| All bullshit. | ||
| Well, just this from here. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, just throw it. | ||
| Let me see the spinning one though. | ||
| Show them the spinning one. | ||
| My wheel kick. | ||
| Yeah, it's my favorite that he does. | ||
| It's my favorite. | ||
| Oh, how dare you! | ||
| All you have to do is different. | ||
| All you're doing wrong is you're coming up, your foot is going up from the ground in almost like a half moon. | ||
| You want to get your knee up higher. | ||
| That's one of the cool things about those jeans. | ||
| Way higher than that. | ||
| That's one of the cool things about those jeans. | ||
| Yeah, these jeans that we're wearing, they're like sweatpants, man. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Don't throw the kick until your knee is up. | ||
| Get your knee up first and then throw the kick. | ||
| The problem is you're doing both at the same time. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Don't throw the kick until your knee is up high. | ||
| Lift your knee up way high past your waist and then throw the kick. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Knee up first and then don't look over your stomach. | ||
| Look over your shoulder. | ||
| Yeah, but knee first. | ||
| Here, hold on. | ||
| This is fucking hysterical. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
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This is so stupid. | |
| I can't watch it. | ||
| I can't watch. | ||
| Are you getting this on video? | ||
| My barbell jeans got me pumped. | ||
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My barbell jeans got me pumped. | |
| I'm about to. | ||
| Joe's gonna go off here. | ||
| Dude, jeans on jeans on jeans. | ||
| Lift egg up. | ||
| Up here. | ||
| Up here. | ||
| You're so flexible. | ||
| Fight companion. | ||
| From here, turn your shoulder to the right. | ||
| Turn your shoulder to the right. | ||
| To the right. | ||
| Now extend. | ||
| Extend. | ||
| Extend. | ||
| Straight. | ||
| Don't look over your stomach. | ||
| Look over your shoulder. | ||
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Like this. | |
| Like this. | ||
| Like that. | ||
| That's how you look. | ||
| That's the end. | ||
| I'm not flexible anymore. | ||
| You are flexible. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| Look, right from here. | ||
| Watch. | ||
| Oh, son. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Even in the air. | ||
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Even in the air, fucking Chuck Norris is blushing. | |
| Lift your knee up and then kick. | ||
| I still think Jean-Claude Van Damme beats the fuck out of both of you. | ||
| Knee up first, then kick. | ||
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Watch. | |
| One, two. | ||
| Okay, ready? | ||
| I'm not mad at Joe's form at all. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, one and then two. | ||
| One. | ||
| Up. | ||
| Up. | ||
| Now twist. | ||
| Twist. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| But don't look over your stomach. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck's wrong. | ||
| I know Jean-Claude Van Damme would be proud. | ||
| What are you doing with your shoulder? | ||
| Look. | ||
| I'm throwing it up here. | ||
| Yeah, I'm like this. | ||
| I'm never like this. | ||
| Look at Joe's ass when he throws the kick. | ||
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Just focus on his ass. | |
| Dude, I was just looking at it. | ||
| Don't look at the foot. | ||
| He has a set of honey... | ||
| Don't look at the foot. | ||
| ...honey do's on it. | ||
| Look right into the glutes. | ||
| Look deeply into them. | ||
| Dude, I'd love to see our actual taekwondo match between Callen and Rogan. | ||
| That's better. | ||
| I would just stare at their asses. | ||
| Dude, my barbell chains make me a fucking monster. | ||
| They're awesome, right? | ||
| Yeah, when you see my kicks... | ||
| You see my... | ||
| I'm out of breath. | ||
| It's just fundamentally a little off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| It's been years. | ||
| You get there. | ||
| But that thing is everybody fucks that up. | ||
| Everybody fucks that up. | ||
| It's the number one thing about the sidekick that people get wrong. | ||
| And it changes everything. | ||
| If you learn to do it right, you learn to get that knee up high, the power difference is fucking substantial. | ||
| Is it too late to learn when you're 40? | ||
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No! | |
| 49, son! | ||
| No, you just gotta do it right. | ||
| Hey, Callan, with Rogan's help, you could be the best. | ||
| All right. | ||
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You're the best! | |
| I could be the best! | ||
| I could be the best! | ||
| Dear Diary, today... | ||
| Listen, you just can't... | ||
| It's up to you, bro. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| You don't just throw it. | ||
| You have to throw it right. | ||
| Or don't throw it. | ||
| You can't be happy with the scoop. | ||
| Never throw the scoop. | ||
| Listen, the scoop doesn't exist. | ||
| You can't do it. | ||
| If I ever threw a kick like that, I'd be sick for a year. | ||
| Just run. | ||
| One year. | ||
| One year. | ||
| Don't throw it. | ||
| What's wrong with Joe? | ||
| He's still sick? | ||
| He threw a bad sidekick. | ||
| It looks like he won. | ||
| Well, it's not a bad sidekick. | ||
| It's just you need to learn how to do it right. | ||
| The knee has to come up high, and then you can do it right. | ||
| Once I showed you how to do it, you were doing it way better. | ||
| I'll tell you right now. | ||
| The last one was the best one. | ||
| I'll tell you right now, you throw that sidekick with Jean-Claude Van Damme in here, he's going to throw up. | ||
| He's never coming back. | ||
| No, dude. | ||
| You've got to get better. | ||
| You've got to get better. | ||
| I'm dangerous. | ||
| It's real simple. | ||
| You either do it right or you don't do it. | ||
| And that's the only way to get your technique. | ||
| I'll be at your house at 5 a.m. | ||
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tomorrow. | |
| Ready for my lesson. | ||
| There you will. | ||
| You'll feel it. | ||
| I'll pad you up like Justin. | ||
| I put Justin Milos in pads. | ||
| I hope you pay him well. | ||
| I pay him well. | ||
| Well, that's why hitting a heavy bag is good. | ||
| He's going to be like Freddie Roach in about three years. | ||
| I have leg pads on him. | ||
| I have leg pads on him. | ||
| I have a body pad on him. | ||
| I don't kick him in the body, though. | ||
| I only kick him in the tie pads. | ||
| But I've fucked him up with body shots. | ||
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Like body shots when the guy's wearing pads. | |
| It's so fun. | ||
| What if it gets to the point where you're paying dudes to not wear pads? | ||
| Just fucking dudes up. | ||
| Let me fuck you up. | ||
| Don't hit me back. | ||
| You don't think someone's done that? | ||
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Of course. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And you just bring them in. | ||
| You just come in and you take a beating and it'll give you fucking $5,000. | ||
| Time for the killing. | ||
| Yeah, you can't do that. | ||
| I know too much about brain damage. | ||
| No, not in the head. | ||
| Head is extra! | ||
| Who knows what's going on with your liver? | ||
| Who knows what's going on with your liver when you get fucking, like, when Dos Anjos kick cowboy in the body? | ||
| And that knee to the body? | ||
| Dude, you throw one of those spinning heel kicks in someone's body? | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Listen, man. | ||
| I've seen people get launched across the fucking floor from a turning side kick to the body. | ||
| They get launched. | ||
| You hit them right? | ||
| Is it a back kick somebody well? | ||
| There's a video of me on YouTube kicking a guy and he soars. | ||
| There was a video of me doing that and they took it down because that's too dangerous. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| I slew him. | ||
| Like a dragon? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I told you guys. | ||
| I called it. | ||
| Love that guy. | ||
| Oh shit, he was right. | ||
| I've slain a lot of guys. | ||
| Dwayne Ludwig in his corner. | ||
| A kick to the body is always painful because your leg is strong. | ||
| Even if you have a half-ass kick, you throw a kick to the body, it's usually stronger than most people's punches, unless you're like some Tumanov type character. | ||
| Also, your shoulder should take the kick around. | ||
| But when you learn how to kick, and you kick good, a kick to the body is horrific. | ||
| It's horrific. | ||
| Especially if your shoulder's a kick. | ||
| You should work on your kicking nonstop. | ||
| Dedicate your life to kicking. | ||
| That's all I'm doing. | ||
| I cannot do the podcast. | ||
| Dedicate your life to kicking. | ||
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I think you can afford to pay dudes so that you fucking... | |
| Hey, it's not going to kill them. | ||
| You get so rich, you just pay. | ||
| It might kill them. | ||
| You got to bring in like 10 guys a session. | ||
| It might kill them. | ||
| The way Joe pays. | ||
| Dudes will only be able to last like 90 seconds tops with Joe. | ||
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Joe's going to need at least eight guys. | |
| He kicks hard, dude. | ||
| He's gonna need eight guys a day. | ||
| At 49, he kicks as hard as anybody. | ||
| At $5,500 bucks a pop? | ||
| Shit! | ||
| I have a few months. | ||
| That's $10,000 right there. | ||
| You do kick harder. | ||
| I've been around kicking for a long time. | ||
| You kick harder than anybody. | ||
| Well, I've learned... | ||
| I can't believe I just said I've been around kicking for a long time. | ||
| Can you imagine how good that'll feel, dude, if he could do that? | ||
| If he could just fucking lay him out. | ||
| You know who kicks hard back in the day? | ||
| And I was right next to him. | ||
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Who? | |
| I watched Boss Rootin kick the bag. | ||
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Come on, son. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Boss Rootin? | ||
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How... | |
| Dude, it sounded like somebody was shooting a shotgun. | ||
| You know who's the strongest I've ever heard kick a bag? | ||
| Pedro Hizzo. | ||
| Pedro Hizzo's leg kicks. | ||
| They scared me more than anything I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| He's got the widest hips I've ever seen. | ||
| When I saw him kick the bag at Beverly Hills Jiu Jitsu, all I thought of is just would take one and I'd be over. | ||
| There's no way I would survive. | ||
| If he kicked me once in the leg, my shit would just give up. | ||
| You know who had the hardest kick I've ever seen? | ||
| Who? | ||
| Shane Carwin. | ||
| Well, he's a gorilla. | ||
| But he never threw him. | ||
| He was always too tempted to throw him. | ||
| He wasn't tempted to throw him in the fight because he thought heavyweights could counter. | ||
| He fucked up so many guys' legs in the gym, they banned him from kicking. | ||
| He had to stop kicking. | ||
| Well, that's a terrible idea. | ||
| Why didn't they fucking pay people the money to go down? | ||
| Just wear balloons. | ||
| Didn't Trevor Whitman train him? | ||
| Why didn't Trevor have him throwing kicks? | ||
| Because Trevor's a wicked kickboxing coach. | ||
| He would. | ||
| They would work on kicks all the time, but then he would never throw it in sparring and do it in fights. | ||
| Man, that's too bad. | ||
| His legs were so heavy, he'd like, fuck up your ACL and MCL. Carwin was a fucking freak specimen as far as his skeletal muscular structure. | ||
| He had to spar him every day for how many years? | ||
| I can't even imagine. | ||
| I don't know how you get out of the car. | ||
| Today I'm going to shoot as far as that. | ||
| We're stuck in Denver. | ||
| Not much to do. | ||
| I was like, I either got to start rapping or play basketball or fucking spar car with. | ||
| Did you wear a football helmet or something? | ||
| I would never have done that. | ||
| A football helmet wouldn't help. | ||
| Probably wouldn't be a bigger thing for him to hit. | ||
| Dude, I was living in Boulder and I was training at Amal Easton's and this guy walked in and we were in the middle of class, we were going over drills, and I saw this guy walk in and I'm like, that's not even a real person. | ||
| My dad can't be a real person. | ||
| Then I realized it was Carwin. | ||
| He had this t-shirt on that looked like it probably was made for me. | ||
| His fucking arms were my thighs, essentially. | ||
| He looks like Juggernaut from X-Men. | ||
| At the time, he had to make 265. He was cutting weight. | ||
| Yeah, he was cutting a little bit of weight. | ||
| He was so big. | ||
| Real quick, Misha Tate's hottest MMA fighter. | ||
| She's so hot to me. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| A hot set of one-two bitties on her. | ||
| Oh, she's so hot. | ||
| Well, the booty is just out of control. | ||
| She's also awesome. | ||
| She's just a nice person, too. | ||
| She's sweet. | ||
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By far the hottest girl, I think, in MMA. She's also just awesome in general. | |
| There's some fucking pretty decently hot ones. | ||
| Name one hotter than her, though. | ||
| There's some girl that just started fighting in Bellator that looks really hot. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There was pictures of her on the ground. | ||
| I'll tell you what, Tiff Timebomb ain't... | ||
| I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers and kick me in the face. | ||
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Oh, she's hot. | |
| Rose... | ||
| Rose is hot. | ||
| Rose is hot as shit. | ||
| Paige Van Zandt's hot. | ||
| Once Paige got her ass whooped like that, I'm like, ah, I'm off that train now. | ||
| No, I'm just kidding. | ||
| How dare you. | ||
| Rose is adorable. | ||
| No, Paige, I'm a Paige fan. | ||
| Don't give me a twist. | ||
| I'm a Paige fan. | ||
| But still, Misha Tate, pound for pound. | ||
| Michelle Waterman is sick. | ||
| Aren't you guys married? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| Speak for yourself, old boy. | ||
| Sorry, guys. | ||
| Thank you, Eddie. | ||
| I'm a free agent, son. | ||
| You're the voice of morality. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| That's okay. | ||
| I don't like seeing him when I'm gonna get punched like that. | ||
| Well, enjoy this kick then, son. | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
| Oh, shit! | ||
| They try everything in their power not to show that. | ||
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Like, fuck! | |
| No, they don't. | ||
| They show that fucker all the time. | ||
| That's in the loop now. | ||
| You know the loop, the knockout loop that plays to Baba O'Reilly, the Who song? | ||
| They put Ryan on the Baba O... Oh, shit. | ||
| You have to. | ||
| Does Dana White know this? | ||
| Of course he does. | ||
| He's a part of it. | ||
| You fucked up. | ||
| No! | ||
| You fucked up. | ||
| Brought it to light. | ||
| Dana's gonna listen to this and that shit's gonna be marked out now. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Listen, Holly Holm is a fucking legit champion. | ||
| He doesn't play favorites that much. | ||
| He might have a love for Ronda like as a person, but the bottom line is- Business is business. | ||
| Business is business. | ||
| And Holly is the fucking champion, man. | ||
| And with a spectacular result. | ||
| You couldn't remove that spectacular, because that was the most spectacular result in the history of women's MMA and the UFC. 100%. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I want to see Holly on a private jet. | ||
| What we're seeing, now Holly's having her first fight. | ||
| It stirs trouble. | ||
| What did this motherfucker say before the podcast started? | ||
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Goddammit! | |
| No, you got started! | ||
| Goddammit! | ||
| You just dragged me again! | ||
| We're talking about the sport! | ||
| He got sucked in! | ||
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Brian sucked me in! | |
| Brian sucked me in! | ||
| I sucked you in! | ||
| Fuck you, Brian! | ||
| I can't handle this on my local diet! | ||
| He's about to go into ketosis. | ||
| He's going into emotional ketosis. | ||
| I think it's really easy, Misha and Holly. | ||
| I think if Misha can't take Holly down, if Misha can't take Holly down, Holly's going to win. | ||
| She's either going to decision her or she's going to mock her. | ||
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Misha ain't going to take Holly down. | |
| But if she can take her down, if she can take her down... | ||
| She's not going to take Holly down. | ||
| I don't think Holly's jiu-jitsu is anywhere near Misha's. | ||
| Misha can grapple. | ||
| Holly is stronger, more athletic. | ||
| Misha can grapple. | ||
| And she's going to light her up. | ||
| Hey, Misha went three rounds. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Hit the brakes. | ||
| Let's not say she's going to do this because we really don't know. | ||
| I really have a problem when people do that. | ||
| I said two things. | ||
| He said she's going to light her up. | ||
| He said she's not going to be able to take her down and she's going to light her up. | ||
| I don't really think we should say that. | ||
| You don't think that's a fair assessment, Joe? | ||
| I think it's disrespectful. | ||
| Oh, I disagree. | ||
| This is what I think. | ||
| I think, honestly, I think Misha Tate is a better grappler. | ||
| I think Misha Tate dominated Sarah McMahon on the ground and flipped her over on her back and held her down, which is a giant accomplishment. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Out-grappled her, out-grounded her out, and showed some badass striking against Jessica. | ||
| If I may strike. | ||
| I dropped her with a punch. | ||
| Ken Strike. | ||
| If I may. | ||
| And also is not going to be ridiculous. | ||
| She's not going to charge. | ||
| She's not going to be chin-up. | ||
| Your face first, tough it out. | ||
| Your IQ's very high. | ||
| All I'm saying is that I don't think it's disrespectful. | ||
| I would never be disrespectful. | ||
| However, no, no, no. | ||
| I don't think it's disrespectful. | ||
| Just 10 minutes ago. | ||
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Hey, man. | |
| You were disrespectful, John Claude Van Damme, for sure. | ||
| No, the jeans haven't been worked out yet. | ||
| Those jeans are like fucking yoga pants. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They need to be... | ||
| These are new. | ||
| The fibers are so tight. | ||
| These are new. | ||
| I put these on today. | ||
| I got them from the same pack. | ||
| You broke them in. | ||
| Look at how flexible you are, man. | ||
| I got them from the same pack. | ||
| I'm getting turned on. | ||
| Please don't. | ||
| Listen, listen. | ||
| They come from the same box. | ||
| These are new. | ||
| No, these are new. | ||
| Now they're broken. | ||
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They still have the tag on them. | |
| I don't know about that. | ||
| Those look very broken. | ||
| I think you're lying to me. | ||
| I just got them. | ||
| No, you put them on that machine. | ||
| I just got them. | ||
| You put them on that jean machine. | ||
| I didn't buy them. | ||
| They sent them to me for free. | ||
| I don't think it's disrespectful to say the greatest striker ever in MMA. The greatest striker ever for women in MMA. Ioana. | ||
| Ioana and Jacek. | ||
| Some would say Cyborg. | ||
| I would say Holly. | ||
| Holly, Ioana. | ||
| Holly and Ioana. | ||
| Yeah, but to say that she would light anybody up for KO power. | ||
| But to say that Holly would light up anybody is not disrespectful. | ||
| It's a compliment to Holly. | ||
| It's not a diss to Misha. | ||
| No, you were saying she's going to light her up. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| And that's not being disrespectful. | ||
| It might happen, or Misha might take her to the ground and be able to dominate her from there. | ||
| Good luck taking her down. | ||
| Her takedown defense is awesome. | ||
| She's never been taken down before. | ||
| She might not be able to get taken down. | ||
| She's never been taken down before. | ||
| But if she can, if Misha can take her down... | ||
| I think Misha's gonna, if she can take her down, she's gonna be all over her on the ground. | ||
| All I know is Misha's first team off cutie. | ||
| We don't know because it's really a mystery. | ||
| Like, we haven't seen Holly on the ground really. | ||
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Well, I do know one thing. | |
| Except for those brief moments with Ronda where she got out of Ronda's armbar attempt and where she took Ronda down. | ||
| She took Ronda down. | ||
| That's all we know. | ||
| As far as, you might have some inside information from gyms, from people who trained with her. | ||
| I know this. | ||
| I think it's a tougher matchup stylistic-wise for Holly than Rhonda. | ||
| Well, what do you know? | ||
| Well, I know that she's not obsessed with jiu-jitsu. | ||
| She's one of those, and there's a lot of MMA fighters like that. | ||
| I could just rattle names off left and right. | ||
| There's a lot of guys that just want to stand and bang and work their wrestling and work to get up. | ||
| They don't want to fucking learn Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| There's so many that are still around. | ||
| They don't want to work on their back. | ||
| They just want to beat the shit out of people, take them fucking down and get on top, or not even fucking take them down, just stay and bang and work on their takedown defense. | ||
| If they get taken down, work on getting back up. | ||
| That's savagery. | ||
| That's barbarianism like that. | ||
| Are you saying that's Holly? | ||
| Robbie Lawler. | ||
| That's like Robbie Lawler. | ||
| Yeah, that's a lot of guys like that. | ||
| And I hear Holly is one of those guys. | ||
| She just wants to stand and bang. | ||
| Or one of those girls. | ||
| She's one of those fighters. | ||
| It's not obsessed. | ||
| And what those fighters all have in common, they're generally not known to have dangerous weapons off their back. | ||
| She gets the fuck up and kicks bitches in the face. | ||
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Especially in women's division. | |
| Whose jiu-jitsu does she have to worry about in the women's division? | ||
| Holly is a champion for a long time. | ||
| She works on takedown defense a lot, and she works on getting back up a lot. | ||
| That's what I hear. | ||
| And kicking. | ||
| Misha can get through that. | ||
| Isn't there a lesson to be learned that MMA math doesn't really work, and that styles really match up weird sometimes? | ||
| And this might be a case. | ||
| The Misha Tate fight versus Holly Holm fight, I think, is a very tough fight. | ||
| Really tough fight. | ||
| She's sneaky. | ||
| She's sneaky and she's tough. | ||
| She does a lot of good. | ||
| She's got a lot of good skills. | ||
| She's got good skills standing. | ||
| She's a grinder, too. | ||
| She fights with their fucking hands up high. | ||
| She doesn't rush in and take crazy chances, and she can pop. | ||
| I mean, she dropped Jessica Ai with a really good right hand. | ||
| She's super game, too, man. | ||
| Super game. | ||
| She's a grinder. | ||
| She's great in the transitions. | ||
| She has really good transitions. | ||
| And like Holly, she's lost and been beaten up before. | ||
| She got beat up by Kat Zingano. | ||
| She's been to the mountains. | ||
| She came back stronger. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That coming back stronger is big. | ||
| Because she came back and beat Jessica Ai and Sarah McMahon. | ||
| I thought showing more determination, showing more grit. | ||
| Her back was against the wall after losing that fight to Kat, and she came back stronger. | ||
| From what I've seen with my eye, whether I'm right or not, it looks like Holly not only is a higher level striker, I think Holly, just from what I've seen, has much more snap and speed. | ||
| No question. | ||
| She's just so much faster. | ||
| She's a 19-time world boxing champion. | ||
| Misha's record is way better in MMA than Holly's. | ||
| Holly's been mainly a striker and not an MMA person, right? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Her boxing is unquestionably better. | ||
| Unquestionably. | ||
| She's arguably got the best striking credentials ever in the history of the women's division. | ||
| Sure, and kicking too. | ||
| 19-time world boxing champion. | ||
| The only one who comes close is Ioana because she's six-time world Muay Thai champion when it comes to actual champions. | ||
| But Misha can grapple, she can clinch, she can avoid striking, and she doesn't necessarily have to kickbox with her. | ||
| So it becomes a very different proposition. | ||
| So if they went kickboxing to kickboxing, yes. | ||
| If they had an MMA kickboxing match, which is what essentially the Ronda fight was, except for two brief moments... | ||
| If they went kickboxing, yeah, Holly's gonna fuck her up. | ||
| But in MMA, Misha's fucking smart. | ||
| She's sneaky, she knows a lot of shit, and she's been there before. | ||
| And she's tough. | ||
| And she knows she's tough. | ||
| She knows she can grind it out in a grueling brawl. | ||
| And she has a real shot. | ||
| She's got a real shot. | ||
| See, I think Misha, she's never gonna beat Ronda, but Misha can beat Holly to be champion. | ||
| I just think stylistic-wise, it's a much better matchup. | ||
| We won't know until they lock up. | ||
| I'm just saying, from what I know in mixed martial arts, I think stylistic-wise, Misha has a way better chance of beating Holly than she does Ronda. | ||
| Also, there's a big difference between someone who is fighting off the back leg as a counter person, which Holly is just ridiculously good at. | ||
| Her counters, her timing was fucking spectacular. | ||
| But Ronda was presenting a predictable target. | ||
| There was a lot of running forward. | ||
| There was a lot of aggression. | ||
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That's all she knows. | |
| So all Holly had to do was be patient, find the right footwork, and catch her coming in, because she knew she was coming in. | ||
| So it was an exercise in moving back and countering. | ||
| She knew exactly what she was preparing for. | ||
| Misha's not going to do that. | ||
| Misha comes forward though. | ||
| But if you remember, there was a few fighters, most notably Patrick Cote, that fought Anderson Silva, and he didn't lead. | ||
| And when he didn't lead, Anderson did not look nearly as good. | ||
| It was a horrible fight. | ||
| It was a horrible fight because Cote has an iron jaw, he's got knockout power, and he's smart. | ||
| So what does he do? | ||
| He knows that Anderson is a wizard at countering. | ||
| So he's not his predictable, usual, aggressive self. | ||
| I don't think those two girls are on the same level as that. | ||
| No, they're not on the same level. | ||
| Holly is. | ||
| Holly's on a very high level for women. | ||
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Yes, she is. | |
| For women, no one's been on a higher level striking-wise. | ||
| I think Misha's will afford to get an underhook and try to grind her out of your cage. | ||
| She might not be able to. | ||
| This is what we're going to find out. | ||
| Holly's going to make her kick not so much. | ||
| I think Holly is so much stronger. | ||
| I was amazed. | ||
| She looked so much stronger than Ronda. | ||
| Ronda's strong as shit. | ||
| And it felt like Holly was a lot stronger. | ||
| This fight ain't going by the first round, by the way. | ||
| And she's going to be stronger than Misha. | ||
| This fight's out of the first round. | ||
| This one ends early. | ||
| Yeah, Faye Zhao. | ||
| Fajal's look like doo-doo lately. | ||
| Well, he's had some rough fights, man. | ||
| Patrick Cummings really beat him down last round. | ||
| That was in Brazil. | ||
| That was a crazy fight, man. | ||
| OC's a motherfucker. | ||
| He's in the first round. | ||
| He's a super athlete, man. | ||
| That powerful left kick. | ||
| Sick. | ||
| He's got a nasty left kick. | ||
| He's a dude that just keeps getting better, too. | ||
| If you can get him down, you can win the fight. | ||
| Didn't he try out for the NFL a bunch of times? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I thought he did. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He just played at University of Tennessee and then went straight to... | ||
| Really? | ||
| He didn't... | ||
| He's a serious athlete, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe he went to Combine or something. | ||
| Not the NFL Combine, but he... | ||
| Really? | ||
| No, he didn't get tryouts with the NFL. When he knocked out Shogun with that step-away left hook... | ||
| Oof, that was nasty. | ||
| He let everybody know what's up. | ||
| There's a big message. | ||
| Oh, they're doing Shogun Rashaad again, right? | ||
| No, Shogun... | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Yes, yes, yes. | ||
| Who's Liotto fighting? | ||
| Liotto's fighting so much Dan Henderson. | ||
| Thanks for nothing. | ||
| That's a weird fight. | ||
| Thanks for nothing on both of those. | ||
| How dare you. | ||
| Thanks for nothing. | ||
| You wouldn't watch that? | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Ten years ago I wouldn't. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I will absolutely watch Liotto and Dan Henderson. | ||
| Oh, you're crunk for it? | ||
| You're like crunk for it? | ||
| I am always crunk for a Liotto fight. | ||
| Because Liotto, just a year and a half ago, knocked out Mark Munoz with that wicked left head kick. | ||
| Liotto is one of my favorite people on the planet. | ||
| I'm just saying, Dan Henderson's old. | ||
| Can we give him something else? | ||
| Well, Dan Henderson has a bunch of fights left in his contract, and I think he still thinks that he can do it. | ||
| And you've got to let a guy like that... | ||
| He deserves the right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Two unsuccessful attempts at professional football. | ||
| So there it goes. | ||
| You were right, Brian. | ||
| It doesn't say NFL, though, does it? | ||
| Well, I would imagine this. | ||
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Oh, professional football. | |
| Oh, no. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| It's not Italian soccer. | ||
| You could be CFL, AFL. Oh, really? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There's a ton. | ||
| Brendan Shaw, former NFL player with fucking logic. | ||
| Maybe we should listen. | ||
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I know. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| He played football for 20 years, but it's whatever. | ||
| Who got hurt? | ||
| Ovens. | ||
| Really? | ||
| He kicked him and he fucked his leg up. | ||
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He's limping. | |
| Oh, no. | ||
| Really? | ||
| He kicked him and fucked up. | ||
| Where did he kick him? | ||
| I need to see it again. | ||
| Oh, he's fucked up. | ||
| That leg's fucked up. | ||
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Look at his leg. | |
| Oh, yeah, he's limping. | ||
| He might have hurt his knee or something. | ||
| OSB's thing, man, is his training camp, his team. | ||
| I have no idea who he's training. | ||
| Yeah, his left leg is real wobbly, man. | ||
| He changed. | ||
| He went southpaw. | ||
| Did you see what happened, Eddie? | ||
| Well, this is orthodox. | ||
| Did you see what happened, Eddie? | ||
| He kicked a homeboy and hurt his leg kicking him. | ||
| Oh, like shin to shin? | ||
| Something happened like that. | ||
| He's back to- Ooh! | ||
| He's took it again! | ||
| He's not moving so good on him. | ||
| Fajal saw that. | ||
| Well, it's the wrong leg. | ||
| He's not moving at all. | ||
| Fajal just attacked the right leg. | ||
| You talking about the left leg? | ||
| No, I think I'm talking about the right leg. | ||
| Is his right leg hurt? | ||
| He started out in Southpaw, now he switched because his leg's fucked up. | ||
| So he's kicking with the fucked up leg as his supporting leg? | ||
| The leg- His right leg is bunched up. | ||
| Oh, he's super fucked up. | ||
| His right leg is bunched. | ||
| Oh, that's weird. | ||
| Yeah, he got his knee messed up. | ||
| Isn't it weird just to try to see a guy try to hide that shit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know who was the best I've ever seen in it? | ||
| Uriah Hall. | ||
| Uriah Hall had his foot fucked up so bad that his toe was hanging off. | ||
| And he came back to his corner and we got a camera on it so we could get a look at it. | ||
| His foot was completely fucked up. | ||
| Like his toe, the bone was sticking out of his toe. | ||
| Do you remember John Jones? | ||
| That was after the fight. | ||
| That was after it was over. | ||
| Uriah, what I'm saying is he went back to his corner, like barely could walk. | ||
| And then when the round started, that motherfucker completely ignored it. | ||
| He was throwing kicks with it. | ||
| His fucking toe was hanging off and he's throwing wheel kicks with it. | ||
| Yeah, there's his toe. | ||
| You see how fucked up it is? | ||
| It was broken off to the right, and the bone was coming out. | ||
| I could see the bone when I was there. | ||
| Uriah Hall is a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He is a bad motherfucker. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| He hasn't fought in a while, huh? | ||
| Well, he lost to Gegard, remember? | ||
| No, he beat Gegard. | ||
| He beat Gegard, then he lost to... | ||
| Whittaker? | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Who did he lost to? | ||
| He lost to Whittaker, Robert Whittaker. | ||
| Michelle's being very, very careful here, huh? | ||
| The fight with Gegard was a spectacular victory for him. | ||
| What am I talking about? | ||
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Amazing. | |
| And Gegard's still ranked higher than him. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
| Gegard's fighting Thales Leides, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Talos Laitis in... | ||
| I haven't seen Talos Laitis in a while. | ||
| Talos Laitis is another one who fought very smart against Anderson Silva. | ||
| He's another one that went five rounds with Anderson Silva. | ||
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Oh, oh, oh! | |
| Look at this! | ||
| Oh, they're swinging, son. | ||
| Oh, my goodness. | ||
| Oh, you had him! | ||
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Wow. | |
| Fajau, you had him! | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| It looks like he can throw some elbows from the guard. | ||
| And Ovin St. Pooh's on top right now with Fajar and his guard. | ||
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It looks like he's got good left elbows in the guard. | |
| One thing about a guy like Fajar, though, is that Fajar's a really good striker. | ||
| And really good strikers are hard to ground and pound. | ||
| Because they don't panic, they don't lock up, they get used to getting hit, they know how to roll with things, and they know what's coming. | ||
| You know, like, their IQ as far as, like, striking, like, where the right hand's coming, where the left hand's coming, what position you're in to put, like, real torque behind something. | ||
| You rarely catch them clean. | ||
| Like, look how, see how clever he's moving when he's off his back? | ||
| Fajal was the world champ. | ||
| Yeah, didn't Fajal fight Anderson back in the day? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| No, he fought King Mo and knocked him out in Strikeforce to win the title. | ||
| He's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's had a tough stint in the UFC. He's had some ups and downs. | ||
| He might have gotten the UFC a little later in his career. | ||
| It would be a little late for him at his best effort. | ||
| Ouch, his knees. | ||
| Should they be massaging his knee right now? | ||
| Do something. | ||
| No, I don't know what's wrong with it. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| It's ashy. | ||
| Could it have been a charley horse? | ||
| We know that. | ||
| It's ashy as fuck. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| I've never seen him put... | ||
| He might have hurt his foot. | ||
| I feel like that's a bad idea to put ice before you go out there. | ||
| Yeah, it might be. | ||
| Bring the inflammation down. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| That right there. | ||
| Oh, that's what did it! | ||
| Oh, he might have broke his foot when he threw that leg kick. | ||
| Oh, it was his kick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He might have blew his knee out or blew his foot out or something. | ||
| Yeah, he fucked his knee up, I think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| That's too bad. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, he's having a hard time on it. | ||
| See how it's kind of wobbly? | ||
| Yeah, he's got to get that win. | ||
| But it's just interesting, you know, like little variations in someone's gait. | ||
| You can see it. | ||
| Oh, look at him. | ||
| This is why I think I'm so excited about what's going on right now with MMA, with guys working on this crazy footwork. | ||
| Like the Dwayne Ludwig... | ||
| Like camp with the T.J. Dillashaw-style footwork, Dominic Cruz's footwork, Conor McGregor's footwork. | ||
| The whole motion coach shit, movement coaches. | ||
| Tate Fletcher texted me the other day and goes, Hey man, you have any movement coaches in LA? I text him back, Fuck you. | ||
| I don't deal with that bullshit. | ||
| Whoever you're looking for, tell them to go to the jail. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| He started laughing. | ||
| That is so funny. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| If you're an MMA fan, you understand why that's so funny because I'm guilty of it as much as anybody, but I can't shut the fuck up about movement coaches. | ||
| God, your balls deep in it. | ||
| Balls deep. | ||
| I had the movement guy on. | ||
| Hey, bro. | ||
| How about Carlos Cognizt's movement coach? | ||
| He was great. | ||
| Oh, what's your background? | ||
| As a kid, I climbed on trees and played with rocks. | ||
| That's like me going, oh, I'm Arctic. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| What's your degree? | ||
| I played with Legos as kids. | ||
| Yeah, it would have been nice if he had a more detailed background. | ||
| Zero background. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| But I think he knows a lot. | ||
| Nah, but not really. | ||
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Look it out. | |
| Nah. | ||
| Let's be real about it. | ||
| I think he knows a lot about movement, proprioception, some of the things he was talking about, about balance and coordination. | ||
| It didn't look like in Carlos' fight. | ||
| Listen, man, I think you won that fight anyways, but I don't think you moved too well. | ||
| I think he's only been working with him for a short amount of time, and you know as much as I do that new things you're going to incorporate into high-level cage fighting. | ||
| It takes a long time to really apply them. | ||
| Yeah, let's not climb on logs. | ||
| Maybe go to the gym and grapple or something, huh? | ||
| That guy had a ponytail on. | ||
| I was like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Someone on the underground said this. | ||
| I'm stealing their line. | ||
| They all look like Jesus. | ||
| They all have ponytails. | ||
| Whoever it is that did that, tweet me so I can give them credit. | ||
| They all have ponytails. | ||
| You go, what's your background? | ||
| Degrees? | ||
| He went, nah, man. | ||
| I just climbed on rocks as a kid and climbed some trees. | ||
| As soon as I heard that one. | ||
| As soon as I heard that one. | ||
| I'm going to turn this shit off. | ||
| I'm going to turn this off. | ||
| I was confused still, even at the end, how they sort of designed their protocol. | ||
| I mean, how he designs what they're going to do that day. | ||
| Get the fuck out of my face, son! | ||
| It was such bullshit. | ||
| Connor's a freak. | ||
| Move all you want. | ||
| Move all you want. | ||
| For everyone else, stay the fuck in the gym and work on your sport. | ||
| But how can you say this if you haven't done it? | ||
| I honestly believe, unless you've done it, you wouldn't know. | ||
| Like, okay, here's a perfect example. | ||
| You're doing yoga now. | ||
| Would you not have thought that that shit was for housewives before you ever did it? | ||
| Nah, son, I like that shit. | ||
| I like the relax movement. | ||
| I don't go to yoga to be like, listen, I'm going to be Andre Erlowski. | ||
| Let me go do some hot yoga. | ||
| Listen, I'm not talking about why you as an experienced yoga person goes to yoga. | ||
| I'm talking about your prejudice against yoga before you ever did yoga. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| I didn't have any. | ||
| I did. | ||
| I'm open-minded. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| I swear. | ||
| How dare you. | ||
| I came in there with a fucking green juice. | ||
| Look at the chakras. | ||
| The chakras are so aligned. | ||
| Show us your root chakra. | ||
|
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You never thought... | |
| You didn't think that... | ||
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You didn't think that it was way easier than it turned out to be? | |
| Way easier or way harder? | ||
| But is it movement like yoga? | ||
| Your perception of it was that it was way easier than it actually was. | ||
| It was harder, but in the middle of training camp, I'm like, thank God for Mrs. Downs in this yoga, otherwise I wouldn't move as good in this yoga. | ||
| But there's a lot of movement in training, right? | ||
| I mean, jabbing, moving. | ||
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You're chock full of movement in training camp. | |
| Don't they have a lot of yoga, movements and movement? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, there's definitely a lot of movement in yoga. | ||
| There's a lot of balance in yoga. | ||
| I need to see a degree. | ||
| I need to see some sort of scientific backing. | ||
| Hold on a second there, because there's people that don't get degrees. | ||
| How about the Gymnastica Natural that Hicks and Gracie attributes to a lot of its flexibility in movement? | ||
| Before these movement coaches, this is what people need to understand. | ||
| Back in the fucking early 90s, Hickson was like a guy, he was like Candyman. | ||
| He didn't want to say his name three times. | ||
| He'd show up on your fucking doorstep and strangle you. | ||
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It's true. | |
| Dude, he was the motherfucker of motherfuckers. | ||
| Slow his heartbeat down, all that stuff. | ||
| He was a yogi. | ||
| He's a legit yogi. | ||
| He was a movement guy. | ||
| Gymnostic natural is all movement. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| It was both. | ||
| He applied fire breath. | ||
| That's why he's a legend. | ||
| But you can also add in that he did 40 years of jujitsu. | ||
| That's why he stood out from all the Gracies. | ||
| He stood out. | ||
| Hicks and Gracie. | ||
| All of them will tell you. | ||
| Because he did the movement. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Well, he stood out. | ||
| That's one of the factors. | ||
| That's the science here. | ||
| A detective would say, maybe it had something to do with that. | ||
| Yeah, but hear what you're saying here, too. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They're not mutually exclusive. | ||
| Have an open mind, Brendan. | ||
| They're not mutually exclusive. | ||
| Hickson, the reason why he was the greatest ever was because he was the perfect storm. | ||
| He was the guy who was super smart, he was super tough, he had a warrior mentality, and he was intelligent enough to apply a bunch of really unconventional training modalities, like some serious yoga. | ||
| That fucking video of him on the bars in Santa Monica before he fought in Japan Valley Tudo, he's doing balance beam shit, going to a full split, standing there on this fucking bar on the beach. | ||
| He's doing all these ring works. | ||
| I'm not saying the movement doesn't work. | ||
| It was both. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Did you say it doesn't help? | ||
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Like if a guy said he's been doing movement, a guy comes into your gym, a guy comes into your gym and he's been doing movement. | |
| I'm saying if I'm a young MMA fighter in the UFC, on my list of priorities to become a UFC champion, hiring a movement coach who his background is climbing on rocks and climbing trees is not the guy I'm going to fucking hire. | ||
| You are correct. | ||
| You are correct. | ||
| Okay, but what about the Edo Portal guy? | ||
| Yeah, now he's a god. | ||
| Don't diss him because I'll come at you. | ||
| I will fuck you up. | ||
| He's a god again. | ||
| If you say anything, I will sidekick the fuck out of you with his tutelage. | ||
| I don't know what Erlon Erwan LaCour can do, but I know he has the respect of Carlos Condit, so he's got my respect. | ||
| I enjoy talking to him. | ||
| I enjoy talking to him and I think he knows a lot. | ||
| So I disagree with you on that. | ||
| But I don't know if he can do what that Ido Portal guy can do. | ||
| But we're talking about mindset. | ||
| That guy moves like an anime. | ||
| I agree, it's insane. | ||
| He moves like he's not real. | ||
| Joe, all I'm saying is if you're gonna dedicate your time to something, I don't know if that's the way to go. | ||
| Here's why I'm not sure you're right. | ||
| Guys like Rich Martinez, we brought this up before. | ||
| He was a fantastic breakdancer. | ||
| And the ability to manipulate his body, standing on one hand, doing the fucking full lotus, all the crazy shit that he could do, directly translated to him almost immediately being a bad motherfucker in jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Directly. | ||
| Ridiculously, and not just athletic, but the dexterity of his movements. | ||
| One language informs the other. | ||
| No, you're wrong, man. | ||
| You're wrong. | ||
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Breakdancing's This is why I'm saying you're wrong. | |
| It's all good if it works and helps you. | ||
| Sign up for salsa classes. | ||
| It's all movement. | ||
| It's all footwork. | ||
| Don't you remember what football players were taking ballet? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I did it. | ||
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Did you? | |
| Yes. | ||
| Then why are you talking shit on salsa? | ||
| But why did you take ballet? | ||
| Something to do. | ||
| Why else did you take ballet? | ||
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You did ballet? | |
| And to get this ham hock and these tights and put C-Rotel? | ||
| Check this out, ladies. | ||
| Did you have to wear yoga pants and shit? | ||
| Yeah, you had to wear the full dance belt. | ||
| You gotta wear a dance belt. | ||
| I did ballet for two years. | ||
| How do you have time to do all these things? | ||
| Theater school. | ||
| Why are you not 90? | ||
| Theater school, sorry. | ||
| All this shit you've done for five years, I lived in the woods, studying mushrooms in Bali. | ||
| Why was it? | ||
| Theater school! | ||
| Acting school! | ||
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In acting school, you have to take ballet. | |
| Acting school, you must take ballet. | ||
| And you have to perform and put on performances. | ||
| Someone's trying to fuck you, okay? | ||
| That's like going to painting school and learning how to play video games. | ||
| They're not related. | ||
| Let me tell you something right now, and I'm being dead serious. | ||
| I was a beautiful dancer. | ||
| I'm a beautiful ballet dancer. | ||
| I bet you were. | ||
| Dude, we did ballet. | ||
| Well, you used to do that video. | ||
| That video you did was just hilarious. | ||
| Not Unconventional Dancer. | ||
| What was the name of it? | ||
| What the fuck was that video that you did? | ||
| Where I was a gimp? | ||
| No, you had this crazy dance video that you made. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| It was hilarious. | ||
| You said, ah, I just did this thing. | ||
| Take a look at it. | ||
| I remember I took it home. | ||
| It was back when people actually had DVDs. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And it was Brian Dancer. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| It wasn't Unconventional Dancer. | ||
| No, I can't remember what it was called. | ||
| It's not the word unconventional. | ||
| Like, you know, fuck. | ||
| Unorthodox dancer? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Inappropriate dancer? | ||
| Yes, I think it was inappropriate dancer. | ||
| It was a sketch that he did. | ||
| It was ridiculous. | ||
| It was ridiculous. | ||
| It was a guy just like, it's okay to dance on a dance floor. | ||
| Agreed, right? | ||
| We all agree. | ||
| As long as you step into this arena and you're on the hardwood, we agree you're allowed to get ridiculous. | ||
| But you can't do that shit when you're waiting in line to rent a car. | ||
| And Bryant's character. | ||
| Was that what it was? | ||
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I think so. | |
| I can't remember. | ||
| I just remember there was some inappropriate dancing. | ||
| Yeah, when I slapped the gimbal, I slapped that bob thing, and I would jump out. | ||
| That sounds hilarious. | ||
| I did all kinds of weird stuff like that. | ||
| Dude, we were doing ballet, and then about two days into it, someone's like, uh, we should probably go catch some footballs. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| And that's where all this movement and dancing stuff. | ||
| But one language informs the other. | ||
| But don't you think lunges are, essentially, in a lot of ways, especially dumbbell lunges, are very much a movement exercise? | ||
| Because it's all about balance and rigidity and keeping your core straight. | ||
| There's something about double dumbbell lunges, things along those lines. | ||
| They help you. | ||
| Fizio balls? | ||
| Fizio balls? | ||
| No, heavy stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're going to apply an explosive movement to a martial art, there's no doubt about lifting weights helps, right? | ||
| No doubt about it. | ||
| No doubt about it. | ||
| If there was no weight restrictions, you could do whatever you wanted and lift as much weight as you wanted. | ||
| There's a big difference between 170 and 200. There's just a big difference. | ||
| You get way stronger. | ||
| If you get way more explosive, it's beneficial in an applied situation, right? | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| That's movement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not much different. | ||
| It's like you're talking about movement with weights or movement with Muay Thai. | ||
| There's a lot of people that say training in Muay Thai has helped their jiu-jitsu. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
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I get all this, man. | |
| The explosions you have to do in Muay Thai, that's movement too. | ||
| I get all this. | ||
| I would also say, I would avoid Cummings with gymnastics. | ||
| I got a movement for you. | ||
| I did gymnastics too. | ||
| What leads one person, like with Hickson, what leads him into the other disciplines is that mindset. | ||
| That comprehensive mindset. | ||
| That open mindset. | ||
| To constantly get better. | ||
| His foundation is so fucking good. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| But also, he was a student of the great Japanese samurai. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Their philosophy. | ||
| So I'm sure he read the Book of Five Rings. | ||
| And one of the things about the Book of Five Rings that it emphasized was like taking in all sorts of different, be soft, like taking calligraphy, do painting, stay flexible. | ||
| And the reason for that, if you look at any great innovator, they started with one discipline, they started with one discipline, and then when they studied other disciplines, they were able to appropriate those disciplines and come up with a new style. | ||
| You don't revolutionize a new style by studying that style. | ||
| You branch out. | ||
| A young Hickson might beat Alan Joban. | ||
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A young, handsome as shit. | |
| He's from the jungle, essentially. | ||
| He's from South America. | ||
| A 19-year-old Hickson? | ||
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And he would twist the pussy? | |
| He would have a real problem with that. | ||
| Can you imagine the pussy Hickson was getting? | ||
| Please bring him up. | ||
| I'd like to look at him. | ||
| Supermodels left in line. | ||
| Again, let's not bring up a specific instance. | ||
| I think your jujitsu helps your music, and I think your music helps your jujitsu. | ||
| And I think as your jujitsu's gotten better, your music's gotten better, and as your music's gotten better, your jujitsu's gotten better. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I think they're all... | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| If you hired a movie coach, you'd be Red Hot Chili Peppers. | ||
| You're right, though. | ||
| When you get great at things, especially you, specifically, you're a guy who... | ||
| One of the best things about you creating 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu, ever since I've known you, if you have an idea in your mind, there's a point you have to get to. | ||
| Like, okay, there's a spot over there you gotta get to. | ||
| You have this crazy tunnel vision where you'll figure out unconventional paths to get to a point. | ||
| Like, you can block out a lot of, like, external shit that a lot of other people don't, you know, they can't block out. | ||
| They can't, like, tune in to the finish line the way you can. | ||
| It's really interesting to see, because I think that applies to your music as well. | ||
| I think it applies to everything you do. | ||
| And I think it comes, for a lot of us, I think it comes from, like, some fucked up place where you didn't get enough when you were a child. | ||
| Enough attention or what? | ||
| Anything. | ||
| Love, attention, praise, friendship, camaraderie. | ||
| Also what's really important is like I said this to him the other day. | ||
| He says don't spar. | ||
| You know why I spar? | ||
| Because it terrifies me. | ||
| I'm not good at sparring. | ||
| How did you turn this into you when I was talking about it? | ||
| I'm trying to explain to him. | ||
| No, no, what I'm saying is that... | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| No, listen, listen, listen. | ||
| You son of a bitch. | ||
| No, no, this is the point I'm making. | ||
| Listen, when you do something that you're afraid of or that makes you uncomfortable, I end up writing. | ||
| I think when you do another discipline that maybe you're not even good at that scares you, it'll open up channels in your original discipline. | ||
| It'll jumble your brain so you come at things in a different way. | ||
| If you stay comfortable in stuff... | ||
| You're most likely, if you're in a creative field, it's harder to branch out and become more creative. | ||
| If you do things you're not that good at, that maybe you're scared of, that cause you to stretch in other areas, and this is the argument for movement coaches, when you do things you're not that good at to step out of your comfort zone, you'll probably get better at your original discipline. | ||
| You better be good at everything else before you hire a movement coach. | ||
| With that being said, being open-minded, I think the four of us should get a timeshare. | ||
| Fuckin' A! Where? | ||
| Just four dudes. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| How much fun would we have? | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Be open minded. | ||
| We have to do a podcast every day. | ||
| Listen, after all of our chicks get sick of our bullshit, let's just get a fat house in the hills and do this. | ||
| And have a movement coach every day. | ||
| We just have a big house with four branches where we don't have to necessarily hear each other. | ||
| We just meet in the kitchen. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| And just live like men. | ||
| Don't live like these bitches that we've become trapped in this world. | ||
| This is when we get to be free. | ||
| We can be free like this all the time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
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That's what I'm saying. | |
| Mel Gibson at the end of Braveheart. | ||
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Freedom! | |
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Ovin, say pew. | ||
| Pew. | ||
| Fuck yeah, Ovin's in the house. | ||
| Good dude. | ||
| With a broke foot, whips him up. | ||
| I wonder what the actual injury was. | ||
| OSP, baby. | ||
| Probably just a sprain. | ||
| He looks like he's walking okay. | ||
| Yeah, he looks like he's walking okay. | ||
| He's a tough one. | ||
| Anderson Silva. | ||
| Anderson Silva. | ||
| What do you think of that fight? | ||
| I forgot to say Anderson. | ||
| It's a very good fight at this time in both their careers. | ||
| It becomes interesting. | ||
| Whereas Anderson, when he was dominating, right after he smashed Chael Sonnen in the second fight, you would think that's a tough fight for Bisping. | ||
| Anderson's just in the matrix. | ||
| Super tough fight. | ||
| Anderson comes off of... | ||
| Psychologically, there's two brutal losses in a row. | ||
| One, a loss for sure. | ||
| One, a catastrophic injury. | ||
| Then he just gets by Nick Diaz, but he gets humiliated. | ||
| Nick Diaz lies on his back and puts his hands on his head and mocks him. | ||
| He's talking to him. | ||
| He's calling him a bitch. | ||
| Dude, Nick Diaz was super respectful right up until the moment they got in that cage, and then he was Nick Diaz. | ||
| It was back on. | ||
| It's like that old fable about the scorpion and the frog. | ||
| The frog wants to get across the pond, and the scorpion says, Or the scorpion wants to get across the pond and the frog is in the water and the scorpion says, let me ride on your back. | ||
| And the frog says, I won't do that. | ||
| If I do that, you'll sting me. | ||
| He goes, well, if I did that, we would both die. | ||
| I'm not stupid. | ||
| So the scorpion rides on the frog's back and halfway across the water, he stings him. | ||
| And the frog's like, what the fuck? | ||
| And the scorpion's like, sorry, it's in my nature. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Damn, what kind of childhood stories did you have? | ||
| I've never heard this one. | ||
| That's a famous story. | ||
| They also use it in connection with when he stings him and the guy... | ||
| What's that? | ||
| You guys are 50. I don't know the scorpion and the frog. | ||
| That's a great allegory. | ||
| Well, the little red riding hood once upon a time when you put your food in a basket, you sent your children in the woods and you legitimately had to worry about them getting eaten by wolves. | ||
| What was the moral of that story? | ||
| The moral of the story is this. | ||
| It's vegans are retarded. | ||
| That's the story. | ||
| These motherfuckers want wolves everywhere. | ||
| What was the moral of that story? | ||
| Because stay the fuck out of the woods. | ||
| Stay out of the woods. | ||
| Stay out of the woods. | ||
| There's a fucking wolf out there. | ||
| Wolves will eat you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And don't trust strangers, actually. | ||
| That's rule number, numeral. | ||
| Definitely, for sure, because the person inside the house had pretended to be his grandmother. | ||
| But the reason why they were always wolves, whether it was Little Red Riding Hood or Three Little Pigs, it was always wolves. | ||
| It's because wolves legitimately ate a lot of fucking people. | ||
| And people seem to have forgot about that now, where all these assholes are like, we need to bring back the wolf. | ||
| We need to make sure the wolves are... | ||
| Wolves will kill everyone you know. | ||
| And they don't eat what they kill. | ||
| A lot of it was metaphor. | ||
| They eat some of what they kill. | ||
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Really? | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| Wolves are so prey-driven that they will kill whole herds of elk and not eat half the meat. | ||
| I'll slap the fuck out of them. | ||
| But German fairy tales like Hansel and Gretel, what happens? | ||
| A lady, an old lady, takes them and she's a witch. | ||
| She puts them in a cage and starts feeding them to what? | ||
| Plump them up so she can eat them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Moral of the story, don't trust even old ladies. | ||
| The Germans are like, you're a stranger? | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Well, also, let's be honest about like a long time ago, a thousand years ago in rural areas where food was scarce and people had suffered through a lifetime of abuse and chaos and seeing murders and seeing assaults and rape and constant, just the programming of a person. | ||
| How much cannibalism was going on back then? | ||
| A lot. | ||
| A lot. | ||
| According to Steve Rinella, like in this country... | ||
| Really? | ||
| We were talking about the other day with the Native Americans, the Nez Perce. | ||
| Steve Rinella has the best Native American stories. | ||
| He's a legit scholar, almost. | ||
| I mean, I don't think he would call himself that, but he's incredibly knowledgeable about Native American history and what the Nez Perce Indians did in the... | ||
| Like the Great Lakes area? | ||
| There's a lot of cannibalism, man. | ||
| A lot. | ||
| They'd file their teeth down. | ||
| What if that was a crazy guy writing history? | ||
| No. | ||
| Even back then, history was bullshit. | ||
| There's a lot of documented evidence. | ||
| What if that all was like, yeah, we got this from an Indian. | ||
| They were cannibals, so we have to kill them all. | ||
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That's so true. | |
| Because they're cannibals. | ||
| Look, we got stories. | ||
| By the way, any problem might be onto something. | ||
| We got stories. | ||
| They eat each other. | ||
| They're going to eat you. | ||
| Meanwhile, they're all hippies. | ||
| They were human beings just like all of us. | ||
| They were human beings just like all of us. | ||
| They weren't any more noble. | ||
| They were no more noble than anybody else. | ||
| They were good people and bad people. | ||
| They were just as violent as... | ||
| Hey, the most violent people arguably could be white people. | ||
| Look what the Germans did. | ||
| Fucking white people, man. | ||
| Well, I think also, like, when you're dealing with people in the Great Lakes states... | ||
| Speaking of white people, fucking white people. | ||
| That's a horrific knockout, man. | ||
| I don't like seeing that. | ||
| The Roy Nelson Minotau knockout. | ||
| But, you know, those people are living in a horrible, horrible climate. | ||
| Like, the Great Lakes before the invention of heat... | ||
| Oh, it must have been so fun. | ||
| Gotta eat each other. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, people got desperado. | ||
| Like, you know, we know about the Donner Party in Colorado. | ||
| They got trapped in the mountains. | ||
| They had to eat each other. | ||
| That shit probably happened all the time in the Great Lakes. | ||
| They just didn't talk about it. | ||
| You're talking about 15 below zero recently, right? | ||
| I wonder what part you eat first. | ||
| Probably the legs or ass. | ||
| Just go right to the asshole. | ||
| Asshole first? | ||
| For you, I take the chest. | ||
| That's aggressive, bro. | ||
| I eat your chest. | ||
| I just say, listen, worst case scenario, I'm eating someone's asshole. | ||
| I'm going to scoop it out with a sharp spoon. | ||
| That's the last thing you eat. | ||
| I'm going to file a spoon with a fucking... | ||
| I'm not even going to pass on the shit. | ||
| You don't even want to... | ||
| Like, there's shit you have to hold on to. | ||
| You might need to eat their shit. | ||
| I would eat their balls and their dick. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| We need to eat that dick first. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Because that's what the raccoons and the squirrels go after first. | ||
| There's a reason. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| They go after the dick. | ||
| No, they're both. | ||
| They go after the dicks. | ||
| That's how wolves determine who's the alpha. | ||
| The alpha gets to eat the liver. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Yeah, there was a guy who did this whole documentary where he lived with wolves and he lived amongst them and he had to fake a kill. | ||
| He would have a kill there and he would pack a liver inside of it and he would pull the liver out and eat it in front of them. | ||
| And he had to eat it in front of them and then he would let them eat. | ||
| Sounds like a liar. | ||
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No, no, no, no. | |
| There's fucking video of it. | ||
| It's terrifying. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| He had a farm nearby that was having problems with wolves and this guy was a wolf scientist and so he would go there with these big gigantic speakers that play wolf sounds because he had to scare off this one pack of wolves with a new pack of wolves that invaded Yes. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| And he had to make it scary enough so these wolves backed off. | ||
| It's all on video. | ||
| The scary thing is when the alpha... | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| He came back. | ||
| The guy came back after a month. | ||
| And there was a new wolf had taken over. | ||
| And so the new wolf wanted to kill him. | ||
| So he had a whimper. | ||
| He had a whimper in front of this wolf. | ||
| So he was recognized as the old alpha. | ||
| And to avoid being killed, which is standard... | ||
| It's normal. | ||
| Like a wolf would challenge and they would fight to the death and the new alpha would kill or try to kill the old alpha. | ||
| He came that close to dying. | ||
|
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There was a human involved in all that fucking shit with the wolves. | |
| Oh yeah, there's a whole documentary on it. | ||
| It's called Living with Wolves, I think. | ||
| Here's the thing about it, man. | ||
| They don't understand that he's unusual because they've been with him since they were a baby. | ||
| See, the only way that works... | ||
| He didn't just walk in. | ||
| It's a gigantic wildlife preserve. | ||
| And this guy lives in the wildlife preserve with these wolves. | ||
| Oh, he knows them. | ||
| For their whole life. | ||
| So they've been with him since he was, you know, like four or five years ago. | ||
| But they're fucking grown, dangerous-ass wolves now. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| You have to see it. | ||
| What's it called? | ||
| Find it, Jamie. | ||
| Is it called Living With Wolves? | ||
| I bet it's probably on that. | ||
| I watched it. | ||
| Living With Wolves? | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Originally, I thought you were saying some guy came in and said, check this out, I'm going to fix this wolf problem. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm like, this has got to be some bullshit. | ||
| Aubrey mentioned to me some dude who was living with the grizzly bears. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's grizzly, man. | ||
| He died, yeah. | ||
| Got fucked up by the bears. | ||
| They ate him. | ||
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And he texts Aubrey like a... | |
| What? | ||
| Am I confusing people? | ||
| No, you're confusing people. | ||
| Grizzly Man. | ||
| That's one of the best documentaries ever. | ||
| It's a Werner Herzog documentary. | ||
| Nah, fuck that noise. | ||
| I'm not talking about that guy. | ||
| Oh, there's another guy that lives with bears. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| And he was like, they're real aggressive today. | ||
| And then the thing he ate his asshole, like, the next day. | ||
| Well, there was one bear that they used on a movie. | ||
| They used on, like, some football movie. | ||
| You're talking about Bart the Bear. | ||
| Yeah, that bear killed that guy in 12 seconds. | ||
| Yeah, no shit. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| The guy was just standing there doing, like, they were doing some sort of drill together. | ||
| And the bear just decided to tear his throat apart. | ||
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But of course, bears are gonna do bear shit. | |
| I agree with you. | ||
| What did you think was going to happen? | ||
| Can I talk to a trainer with bears? | ||
| It's always possible. | ||
| I talked to this trainer with bears. | ||
| He said, well, bears will warn you about three minutes before. | ||
| If they're having a bad day, you've got to step off. | ||
| I go, what do they do? | ||
| They start clicking their jaw. | ||
| When a grizzly starts clicking his jaw, it's time for you to stop training. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He trains big cats. | ||
| Look at this fucking idiot. | ||
| He says they will warn you. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Is this the same guy? | ||
| Dude, those are wild wolves? | ||
| No, no, this isn't the same guy, Jamie. | ||
| No, this isn't the scientist. | ||
| The scientist was a younger guy, but this is another guy that does the same thing. | ||
| This guy's pretty badass. | ||
| Yeah, I think that guy's living with wild wolves. | ||
| Yeah, Werner Herzog. | ||
| Werner Herzog. | ||
| You like chills with him? | ||
| No, it's not Werner Herzog. | ||
| Werner Herzog's grizzly man. | ||
| This guy's name is Werner Frund or something like that. | ||
| It was a different guy, and I'm really pretty positive it was a younger guy. | ||
| Oh shit, I'm gonna get all into this now, man. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| They have a really sophisticated social system. | ||
| Yeah, they do. | ||
| You know what I've been into lately, big time? | ||
| Yeah, they do. | ||
| Anyway, keep going. | ||
| Did you end up seeing Making a Murderer and all that? | ||
| I still haven't seen it. | ||
| Goddammit, Joey, still haven't seen it? | ||
| Yeah, I'm a rebel, bro. | ||
| Yeah, you're a wild man. | ||
| If you talk shit to me, I'll fucking wait, bitch. | ||
| But you walk wolves and bears balls deep. | ||
| I got a real problem with that, man. | ||
| I'm obsessed with wildlife. | ||
| Absolutely fucking obsessed. | ||
| I'm obsessed. | ||
| Damn, Royce 39. Have you seen that Netflix documentary about India and the Ganges River? | ||
| No, what's it called? | ||
| Dude, it's called Wild in India, but it's on Netflix. | ||
| Wild in India? | ||
| The Ganges River is insane. | ||
| Very dirty. | ||
| It comes from... | ||
| No, but listen, it's not that dirty. | ||
| This is the crazy part about it, is all that river comes from the Himalayas, all the ice and the glaciers in the Himalayas. | ||
| Wild in India? | ||
| Something like that on Netflix about India. | ||
| But the part about the Ganges River, it's a magical fucking river. | ||
| They burn dead bodies in there. | ||
| They throw trash, sewage, everything. | ||
| But there's something... | ||
| It's called Wildest. | ||
| Wildest India. | ||
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Yes, yes. | |
| There's something about that water. | ||
| It has so much mineral composition that... | ||
| It's like an antibacterial water. | ||
| It kills all the bacteria and the pathogens. | ||
| According to this documentary that could be full of shit on Netflix, but they're saying that there's so much sewage goes into there, but it cleanses itself. | ||
| You can still drink it. | ||
| You can be down the river, people still drink it. | ||
| Well, it's not true, because my friend jumped in and had an earache for two years. | ||
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Dude, I said according to this documentary. | |
| This might be some white-on-white crime right now. | ||
| Do you remember my bit about the Sundarbans? | ||
| This is going to be fast. | ||
| The Sundarbans is no joke, huh? | ||
| Do you remember that bit I used to have, Eddie, about the guy who got killed in a boat? | ||
| There was a boat. | ||
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There was five dudes. | |
| With the tigers? | ||
| Yeah, they swam out to the boat and killed these guys individually, one by one, and dragged them back to the shore. | ||
| The tigers swam out to the boat three times. | ||
| Oh, I remember that. | ||
| You told me that. | ||
|
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Three times. | |
| There's a documentary that talks about that. | ||
| They couldn't get out of the way. | ||
| That's the only spot on the world where tigers actively hunt humans. | ||
| They love the taste of humans. | ||
| Fuck that noise. | ||
| Where's that at? | ||
| India. | ||
| Don't go to India. | ||
| Oh, I ain't going. | ||
| But they got great documentaries about it. | ||
| Yeah, I'll watch that shit. | ||
| Well, they've killed literally hundreds of thousands of people over the last hundred years. | ||
| Hundreds of thousands? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Over the last hundred years. | ||
| Tigers? | ||
| Yeah, they have some nutty number. | ||
| It's not the worst way to go. | ||
| Over the last 200 years, I think the number is like 300,000. | ||
| I quoted the number honestly and realistically in my comedy special. | ||
| That was in Talking Monkeys in Space. | ||
| They fucking killed this guy, dragged him to shore, and then jumped back in the water, killed another guy, dragged him to shore, jumped back in the water, killed another guy, dragged him to shore. | ||
| They couldn't swim away. | ||
| These things are so fast. | ||
| They can swim faster than five guys can row a boat at full speed. | ||
| Is there anything scarier? | ||
| There's a great book called The Man Eaters of Kumon. | ||
| Read The Man Eaters of Kumon about tigers. | ||
| Fuck Jason. | ||
| That's worse than Jason. | ||
| Dude, crocodiles don't fuck with them. | ||
| Crocodiles don't fuck with tigers. | ||
| Rochelt's running from Roy Nelson like he's a tiger right now. | ||
| Well, Roy Nelson is a dangerous dude. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Roy Nelson throws fucking hammers. | ||
| You want to talk about a guy who's always been known as a jiu-jitsu guy? | ||
| He throws fucking fire. | ||
| Eddie and I knew Roy Nelson back when he was just big country. | ||
| Everybody called him big country and he was a jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
| Oh, Jesus, that fucking haymaker. | ||
| Back in the Mark Lehman days. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's getting low here. | ||
| Now, are these guys gonna get a Versace contract? | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| He should. | ||
| If Versace was fucking smart, they would try to get in on that chubby band dollars. | ||
| For real, is that dad bod? | ||
| Come on, folks. | ||
| Why does everybody have to be beautiful? | ||
| Roy Nelson in a fucking fat suit with a cigar in his hand. | ||
| He's sick. | ||
| His wife on his arm. | ||
| Dick hanging out. | ||
| Listen, people love that guy. | ||
| I really believe absolutely 100% that he's under-marketed by a lot of companies. | ||
| Companies should scoop that guy up. | ||
| Schlitz. | ||
| Burger King was a lot of people. | ||
| But not even as a joke like that, but just like a good company. | ||
|
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He's a man. | |
| He's a fucking man. | ||
| He has the most knockout bonuses in UFC history for heavyweight. | ||
| Yeah, he's a fucking man. | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| He has a grown man running from him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, this motherfucker throws hammers. | ||
| Do you remember when he knocked out Mitrione? | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| Dude, he knocked out Noguera like he was a fucking paper cutout. | ||
| Is he the hardest guy that's ever hit you? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| That was hot. | ||
| Damn, look at Rochelle. | ||
| Rochelle can take it. | ||
| He's like, fuck you, bitch. | ||
| Rochelle's about to get knocked out. | ||
| I think Rochelle is an elite wrestler, right? | ||
| Yeah, Oklahoma State national champ. | ||
| But heavyweight national champ, it's similar to sumo wrestling. | ||
| I hate to be shitty about it, but it really is. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| Until Brock Lesnar's in your division. | ||
| Bro, that was 20 years ago. | ||
| I'm talking about now with the big old fat boys. | ||
| What's the difference between now and then? | ||
| Like if Brock Lesnar was around today, is it possible to still have a guy like that? | ||
| There's no Brock's out there anymore. | ||
| How come? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Let's ask that. | ||
| You follow college wrestling? | ||
| I watch the finals every year. | ||
| Harsley, he's an evolution. | ||
| He's a freak. | ||
| He's a blonde silverback. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck he is. | ||
| Is it evolution? | ||
| Are we seeing the last of the Viking DNA? Because he has a regular-sized wife. | ||
| Guys are going straight emo now. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Well, he has a regular-sized wife. | ||
| I'm sure his children would be fucking gigantic. | ||
|
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Maybe. | |
| His wife was a pro wrestler, right? | ||
| Whose wife? | ||
| She was a pro wrestler. | ||
| She was Sable. | ||
| She was Sable. | ||
| And she was fucking... | ||
| Fine, son. | ||
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Beautiful. | |
| Beautiful. | ||
| He did well. | ||
| He did well for himself. | ||
| Do I have a calendar? | ||
| I used to jack off to middle school. | ||
| How dare you say that about his wife? | ||
| No, it's a good thing. | ||
| You son of a bitch! | ||
| Hey, bring it, bitch! | ||
| You don't do shit. | ||
| You fake fight. | ||
| Oh, how dare you. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Dude, boy, if you met him in an alley, he's like one of the worst people you could run into for a brief exchange. | ||
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Dude, he'd rape me. | |
| Let's be real. | ||
| He'd rape me. | ||
| And I'd have to do something. | ||
| I'd have to jump on his back. | ||
| Don't, Brock. | ||
| I'd have to pull him aside and say, listen. | ||
| Look at her. | ||
| That's his wife. | ||
| Okay, perfect. | ||
| His kids are going to be freaks. | ||
| His kids will probably still be freaks. | ||
| So when his kids grow to be about 18 years old, we'll start getting nervous again. | ||
| We'll start getting nervous again. | ||
| That is impressive. | ||
| There's no Brock Lesnar out there right now. | ||
| She's beautiful. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Well, who was that dude that just fought? | ||
| That kickboxer dude. | ||
| Black gentleman from... | ||
| Was he from Africa? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| In the UFC? Yeah. | ||
| You're talking about the dude from France. | ||
| From France. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He was like a shittier looking Czech Congo. | ||
| With dreads. | ||
| Nasty power. | ||
| Nasty power. | ||
| For sure take him down. | ||
| Yeah, well he got taken down the first round. | ||
| Who was that? | ||
| Jamie? | ||
| Who was that, Jamie? | ||
| Sable, though, was the hottest. | ||
| I haven't talked about her in forever. | ||
| Sable. | ||
| Okay, if you can get, like, Gabby Garcia and Shane Carwin to have a kid. | ||
| Good lordy, Miss Claudia. | ||
| What would we have? | ||
| What would we have? | ||
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Who? | |
| Who again? | ||
| Shane Carwin and Gabby Garcia. | ||
|
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Oh, shit. | |
| Oh, shit. | ||
| You got a woman who's six foot four. | ||
| Are you periscoping, you fuck? | ||
| No. | ||
|
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Periscope. | |
| What are you doing? | ||
| I have a periscope. | ||
| He doesn't know what a periscope is. | ||
| He has no idea. | ||
| Shane Carwin and Gabby Garcia have a baby. | ||
| You think that's a... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's an ultimate super athlete. | ||
| No, bro. | ||
| Fuck that noise. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Shane Carwin and Serena Williams. | ||
| Oh, you're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| Interracial as well. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Yeah, there's just a lot of emotional power to both sides combining together in one furious union of athleticism. | ||
| And you just send that kid to the hood. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| No, you don't make him rich and happy. | ||
| You send him just... | ||
| They might not make it out of there, though. | ||
| Nah, they'll figure it out. | ||
|
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I don't know, man. | |
| That's a risk. | ||
| Ha ha! | ||
| You have to make more than one. | ||
| How ridiculous do we get on this fucking convention? | ||
| This podcast is ridiculous. | ||
| I'm looking up Sable as we should be outlawed. | ||
| What was that movie? | ||
| Remember that guy? | ||
| Was it Mask? | ||
| The guy who was born with a deformity? | ||
| You're talking about with Cher? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| With Cher. | ||
| That's Mask. | ||
| What'd you say? | ||
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The bear guy. | |
| The bear guy? | ||
| Meet Sulu the bear man. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It's a new bear guy. | ||
| And his face got ripped off too? | ||
| Did he get killed? | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Do you know, Jamie, or are you guessing? | ||
| They kind of deserve it, though, yeah? | ||
| Find out if he got killed. | ||
| Hey, bitch, don't give the beer watermelon, huh? | ||
| Well, here's the thing about bears, man. | ||
| Bears can be a lot like dogs if they're, like, really taken care of. | ||
| If you feed them and love them. | ||
| Like, people have lived with bears, where they, like, swim with bears. | ||
| But you've got to be with them from the time they're a baby. | ||
| They can never be feral. | ||
| And you've got to be able to raise them and give them love so they sort of have to identify with you. | ||
| Get a dog! | ||
| But they imprint on you. | ||
| But they're like a dog in a lot of ways. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| It's always a risk because you're dealing with something that like one generation removed was completely wild. | ||
| Like you could easily have a grizzly bear where the mother grizzly bear had to fight for its life against a mountain lion that was trying to kill its baby. | ||
| You know, that's totally possible. | ||
| And then here it is, like one generation later, you got the pup and it's living in your house. | ||
| Tell you right now, I'd rather chill with those grizzly bears than some of those chimpanzees and shit in my house. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good call. | ||
| Chimpanzees might decide to fuck you. | ||
| Ain't shit you do about it. | ||
| At least the bears are just gonna rip my throat out. | ||
| Chimpanzees just fucking hold you around. | ||
| Yeah, that chimp wants to bust a nut in my ass. | ||
| He's gonna do it. | ||
| If you're on the verge of suicide, if you want to commit suicide, then that might be a good idea. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Since you're gonna kill yourself, why not go fucking live with lions? | ||
| That's what I'm saying, Eddie. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| See what happens, and then if they kill you, whatever, you were gonna kill yourself anyways. | ||
| That's a guy in South Africa who lives with 21 Lions and wrestles with them and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, might as well. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| You absolutely turn out great. | ||
| Yeah, that works out. | ||
| Are you suicidal? | ||
| Call this number now. | ||
| Guys, dudes will do whatever they can to separate themselves from the past. | ||
| Dude, they're scientists that are like, they want to gain data that, like, you gotta be suicidal to go into those motherfucking dens. | ||
| Did Rochal catch Roy? | ||
| Is that what you were doing? | ||
| No, he fell. | ||
| He slipped. | ||
| He slipped. | ||
| I'm surprised you're not trying to grapple more. | ||
| I do that all the time, and I get embarrassed when I go, OH! And something won't land. | ||
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So it slipped. | |
| OH! And I'm a professional. | ||
| Like, I'm at the fights, calling the fight, and someone throws a head kick and it doesn't land. | ||
| But it looks like it's gonna land, but at the last minute it gets away. | ||
| I'm like, oh my god. | ||
| But it's genuine, I swear to god, folks. | ||
| I swear to god, it slipped. | ||
| It's tough, though. | ||
| When I yell, OH! I don't do that accidentally. | ||
| I mean, I don't do that artificially. | ||
| This looks like a good-ass fight. | ||
| These guys look like they're completely related. | ||
| Yeah, well, they're definitely the same species. | ||
| They look like brothers. | ||
| They look like the exact same species. | ||
| Exact same species. | ||
| This isn't confusing. | ||
| At all. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Good thing he has a beard, because I wouldn't know. | ||
| I'd be like, huh? | ||
| Remember when Keith Hackney fought Emmanuel Yarbrough? | ||
| Do I ever. | ||
| You're like, okay, what's going on here? | ||
| These things are so not similar in their size. | ||
| These two individuals. | ||
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They're both picked. | |
| They're both picked. | ||
| These two individuals. | ||
| Rochelle looks like a supermodel version of the mask, right? | ||
|
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Oh! | |
| That's what you were gonna say! | ||
|
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You son of a bitch! | |
| That's fucked up! | ||
| Supermodel version! | ||
| It's nothing sacred! | ||
| It's nothing sacred here! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| How is that talking shit? | ||
| I said you look like a supermodel! | ||
| Of the mask! | ||
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Oh my god! | |
| Of the guy from The Cher Show! | ||
| This is my favorite show of all time! | ||
| Yes, yes, yes! | ||
| Of The Cher Show! | ||
| Goddammit, Eddie! | ||
| Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, look! | ||
| Dammit, Eddie! | ||
|
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Look, look! | |
| That's terrible. | ||
| That's probably the greatest thing I've ever heard. | ||
| Supermodel! | ||
|
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All right. | |
| Oh, that's so funny. | ||
| I'm not talking about Zoolander. | ||
| I'm not talking about a joke in Zoolander. | ||
| I'm talking about, like, Alan Juban. | ||
| It's his better looking brother. | ||
| Marcus Schakenberg. | ||
| Let me say something, man. | ||
| Your joke is so cool. | ||
| Marcus Schakenberg. | ||
| It's going to cost Roy Nelson this fight. | ||
| The karma of your joke is so cruel. | ||
| It's not a joke. | ||
| It's a compliment. | ||
| You might have fucked over Roy Nelson. | ||
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It's a compliment. | |
| Here's a trivia question. | ||
| Who is the actor who played him? | ||
| He's the real dude. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| That's not makeup. | ||
| That's a real dude. | ||
| He passed away. | ||
| No, I thought that was Eric Stoltz. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| It's Eric Stoltz. | ||
| No, no, that's Eric Stoltz. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Goddammit, Brennan. | ||
| How bad did that make you feel? | ||
| I was like, oh, no. | ||
| No, I knew it was Eric Stoltz. | ||
| Here's a little jujitsu trivia. | ||
| Powder. | ||
| Remember that dude? | ||
| Sean Patrick. | ||
| You made a black belt in jujitsu. | ||
| Legit black belt. | ||
| Under Sean Williams? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sean Williams, Henjo Gracie, black belt. | ||
| Legit lineage. | ||
| That's a big deal, man. | ||
| Did Powder do anything after Powder? | ||
| Well, here's the deal, dude. | ||
| Did he need to? | ||
| The guy who directed Powder was a guy who was like, There was some controversy about some alleged child molestation charges, which made Powder a really weird movie. | ||
| Because Powder was kind of like a Nambla love story to a lot of people. | ||
| There was a whole conspiracy about that. | ||
| That guy got in trouble. | ||
| It wasn't a little thing. | ||
| Like, he got in, like, real criminal trouble. | ||
| I do not remember the specifics. | ||
| Holy shit, I didn't know that. | ||
| I do not remember the specifics. | ||
| Is there a documentary on that? | ||
| I don't think there is, but there's... | ||
| Netflix! | ||
| Netflix! | ||
| You're fucking slipping! | ||
| Here, hold on a second. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Barry Crimmins was the one we were talking about it, I believe. | ||
| Get on the case, Netflix. | ||
| Barry Crimmins, was he talking about that? | ||
| He was talking about AOL. Barry Crimmins was talking about AOL, how child molesters were selling things to AOL, but Barry Crimmins did comment about that guy on a... | ||
| Was it on a podcast or was it on Twitter? | ||
|
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I thought that's how I heard about it. | |
| Maybe. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| I had known about it before that. | ||
| There was a big article that was about it, I want to say, like, two years ago. | ||
| But, yeah, Barry, of course, if you don't know who Barry Crimmins is, he's a Boston comedy legend, and he had a Bobcat Goldthwait do a documentary called Call Me Lucky, and it's about him getting molested when he was a kid. | ||
| It's horrific, man. | ||
| He was four years old. | ||
| He was four years old, and his babysitter's boyfriend would fuck him. | ||
| God damn. | ||
| Why'd you bring the podcast down like this? | ||
| Dude, you gotta see it. | ||
| Call me Lucky, he's an amazing doctor. | ||
| Here's the guy. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Victor Salva loves terrorizing semi-naked youths. | ||
| Look at him! | ||
| No shit! | ||
| But they're semi-naked. | ||
| Don't be pussies. | ||
| That's from 2012 from Vice. | ||
| Better than naked. | ||
| Take your shirt off. | ||
| Ready? | ||
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Boom! | |
| Boom! | ||
| What do you mean terrorizing? | ||
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Semi sounds like bottoms on, tops off. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| Take your pants off, move around, and I might kick you. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I might. | ||
| Damn, Roy's going for the shake kill now. | ||
| Three for three. | ||
| Roy had appeared before it was cool. | ||
| People think he's a hipster. | ||
| Went for a takedown, did not get it. | ||
| Roy's wrestling's underrated. | ||
| Look what he did to Barnett that time. | ||
| Well, he has a loss on his record that I think is one of the most unfair stand-ups ever. | ||
| Arlovsky? | ||
| Against Arlovsky. | ||
| Side control, working on a Kimura. | ||
| He has a full double wrist lock. | ||
| He has the double wrist lock. | ||
| He doesn't have the lock, right? | ||
| Because he has to get it locked... | ||
| Turn behind the back on a strong guy. | ||
| It's all set up though. | ||
| Camorra's an interesting move because Marcelo Garcia doesn't like to do it because he thinks it's a strong man move. | ||
| He doesn't incorporate it. | ||
| He's all about chokes. | ||
| He's all about whatever he does has to work on everybody. | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| Nothing wrong with that at all. | ||
| That's a weird way to think. | ||
| But he doesn't believe in any kind of chokes with Armin, like arm triangles or AK side choke or Darces or Japanese necktie. | ||
| But I understand. | ||
| I understand. | ||
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Really? | |
| I totally understand that, hey, shit, if you only focus, you take that time, everybody has the same amount of time to drill. | ||
| Everyone has the same time. | ||
| Everyone has 24 hours in a day. | ||
| Everyone has a life. | ||
| Everyone... | ||
| Everyone has the same motherfucking time generally. | ||
| What are you gonna do with that block every day when you break it all down? | ||
| What are you gonna do with that block? | ||
| If you say, why don't you save all that time for shit that works on the big guys? | ||
| If it works on the big guys, it's gonna work on the small guys. | ||
| So let's just work on that. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with that at motherfucking all. | ||
| That's brilliant. | ||
| That's genius. | ||
| Me personally, I like working on everything that works on guys that Have, like, 15 pounds on you. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Because you're gonna be rolling a lot with guys that are your size, and maybe, as long as it works on guys that have a little weight on you, I'm into those moves. | ||
| To me, that's a legit move. | ||
| If it works on a guy that's around your size at a high level, I want that move in my character. | ||
| Henson used to talk about that. | ||
| He would work on chokes. | ||
| He said, chokes always work. | ||
| Whereas other stuff, you know, is tricky. | ||
| But there's a difference between arm and chokes, like Darces, Japanese neckties, arm and guillotines, and then straight neck chokes, like Marcella teens, and all these weird little fucking things like Rothwell on Barnett. | ||
| There's all these ninja chokes and shit. | ||
| There's about 23 motherfucking ways to squeeze a neck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To make a motherfucker tap. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So all those take special time to get good at. | ||
| Just because you're good at one of the 23 has nothing to do with are you good at this one or are you good at that one. | ||
| You gotta spend the same amount of time on that shit. | ||
| It might give you a little boost if you're really good at this one. | ||
| Then you'll get really good at this one quicker than a guy who's not good at that one. | ||
| But, generally, you gotta spend time in all these chokes to master them. | ||
| Eddie, let me ask this before I forget. | ||
| Who was that? | ||
| There was one choke that I saw only once in the UFC. It was a choke, like, almost similar to a go-go plata by a kid who was a Tiger Showman student. | ||
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Nick? | |
| Nick something or another? | ||
| Was that in the UFC? Yes. | ||
| He had some crazy choke and he said that he invented it while it was going on. | ||
| He's like, I invented it in the fight. | ||
| I have no idea what that is. | ||
| Do you know what I'm talking about? | ||
| I know what I'm talking about, but I couldn't show you. | ||
| Guys show me techniques all the goddamn time and I'm like, shit, I should have videotaped that because that shit's gone. | ||
| If you don't videotaped that, it's gone. | ||
| Is jiu-jitsu growing any? | ||
| There it is, Nick Pace. | ||
| Yeah, Nick Pace. | ||
| He did some crazy... | ||
| Let's see if you can find the submission, because it was some weird leg submission. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| I couldn't show you. | ||
| Well, I remember it had something to do with a shin across the neck. | ||
| It was a leg submission? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It was a neck. | ||
| It was a choke. | ||
| It was some weird choke that had to do with some weird omoplata-type setup, and he wound up in some position with his shin underneath this guy's neck in an unconventional way that I don't necessarily remember. | ||
| I'd have to see it again. | ||
| But I remember saying, have you done that before? | ||
| And he said, that was the first time he ever did it. | ||
| Is there a huge difference between guys? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Is there a huge difference between really good guys now and 10 years ago? | ||
| Oh, fuck yeah. | ||
| Jiu-jitsu-wise, like all different techniques? | ||
| That's like saying, is there a difference in stand-up comedy now, in general, as in the 80s? | ||
| Come on, in the 80s, there was a difference. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Same Russian comedy? | ||
| Hey Eddie, look up behind you. | ||
| That's the choke. | ||
| Nick Pace is gonna show us the choke. | ||
| Why does it look so crappy, Jamie? | ||
| See, look at this. | ||
| He grabs it like this. | ||
| He throws the leg over the neck, and then he shoots under like this, and he grabs his ankle. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| That's gun show control. | ||
| It's called gun show. | ||
| But he chokes him from here. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| I got a guy, Ben Eddy, who does this shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| He came up with this on the fly in the UFC. Damn. | ||
| And now he calls it the pace joke. | ||
| I don't recall... | ||
| That guy's hair is great. | ||
| Who do not do that? | ||
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I don't believe... | |
| That's legit. | ||
| Is that Lewis Gowden now? | ||
| Well, that's legit. | ||
| Is that Gowden? | ||
| That's really legit. | ||
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I got a guy... | |
| Maybe not that hair, though. | ||
| I got a guy whose style is based off that control. | ||
| You just said it looks nice, fuck. | ||
| No, but I'm being sarcastic. | ||
| There's guys that spend a lot of time there. | ||
| That's an atomic green. | ||
| Those guys... | ||
| Tiger Shulman, for a lot of people who don't know, those guys were a giant karate chain. | ||
| In the East Coast. | ||
| You see them in New York all the time. | ||
| They didn't think of them as legit, necessarily, because they thought, well, most giant karate schools aren't legit. | ||
| However, they are legit. | ||
| I mean, think Uriah Hall, this fucking kid, Nick Pace came from there. | ||
| That guy who won last, Frankie Rivera, the guy who won last week against Yuri Alcantara, he's from there. | ||
| Jimmy Rivera. | ||
| There's a lot of fucking really high-level guys from Tiger Shulman's. | ||
| Tiger Shulman, Uriah Hall is, look, his kickbox, or his stand-up is ridiculous. | ||
| His karate skills, fucking ridiculous. | ||
| That spinning back kick to the face that he caught Gegard with, he's nasty. | ||
| That's all Tiger Shulman, man. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| And this Nick Pace kid. | ||
| They're one of the few big name schools that was a whole chain that became a real legit gym. | ||
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That's cool. | |
| They're a karate chain. | ||
| The one karate chain. | ||
| Maybe there's others that did it. | ||
| I'm sure there are. | ||
| But Tiger Schulman's was a straight, dominant karate chain. | ||
| And when they saw MMA unfold... | ||
| They jumped on. | ||
| They were like, okay, we need some jujitsu. | ||
| We need some of that. | ||
| We need some of that. | ||
| So Tiger Showman is open-minded, modern. | ||
| The other way to look at it also is that you have that big a school, there are always going to be some superstars who are going to come through. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Their training is really good. | ||
| It's not just that. | ||
| They evolved when most other martial arts, most other traditional martial arts associations didn't evolve. | ||
| Tiger Showman was all about evolution. | ||
| Most, most Roy once, son. | ||
| Traditional martial arts associations are not into evolving because the people at the top, they're fucking lazy. | ||
| Powerful Roy Nelson. | ||
| Because they would have to learn all this new shit. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| They don't want to do it. | ||
| Who does this? | ||
| Who gets on top of a top row, pulls his shirt up, and rubs his belly? | ||
| Homer Simpson does that shit all day. | ||
| It's tough after a decision. | ||
| Stipe Miocic in the motherfucking house. | ||
| Ooh, Stipe got that new girl. | ||
| Hey, easy. | ||
| Girl. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| It's the wine. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Handsome guy. | ||
| He's a handsome guy. | ||
| I got Stipe as a very handsome man. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| We spent 20 minutes on Alan Juban and you're going to talk about Stipe. | ||
| Stipe's a handsome guy. | ||
| He's a big, handsome man. | ||
| Let's be honest. | ||
| This is... | ||
| This has been one of the least fight-heavy fight companions ever. | ||
| We've barely paid attention to these fights. | ||
| By the way, Conor McGregor is bigger than Dos Anjos. | ||
| Is this the gayest one ever? | ||
| No, definitely not. | ||
| Is that we've been gayer? | ||
| Have we been gayer? | ||
| Whenever Brian's here, it gets gay. | ||
| Yeah, it gets gay. | ||
| I can't help it. | ||
| The dream about your boyfriend. | ||
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I can hear that over and over and over. | |
| Have you had another dream? | ||
| Was that the only dream? | ||
| That was the only one. | ||
| So far, the only dream. | ||
| I can't wait for Conor Dos Anjos. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Conor's bigger than Dos Anjos. | ||
| How about that? | ||
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How about Dana saying that Conor has no chance? | |
| What's up with that? | ||
|
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That's crazy. | |
| Dana didn't say that. | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| Oh, he didn't? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, he didn't? | ||
| Okay, because that's what it says in the underground. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I think what he said was, I have a hard time seeing Conor win this fight. | ||
| I'm paraphrasing. | ||
| He's being honest. | ||
| He's being honest. | ||
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What did I say? | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's called honeydicking. | ||
| What did I say? | ||
| It's called honeydicking, everybody. | ||
| Listen, man, you cannot neglect the skills of Dos Anjos. | ||
| You can't sleep on that guy. | ||
| When I look at Dos Anjos, I look at a fucking beast, man. | ||
| The way he put away Benson Henderson, the way he put away Donald Cerrone, the way he beat the fuck out of Sergio Pettis, or excuse me, Anthony Pettis, he's something special, man. | ||
| Dude, I can't think of a worse matchup for Conor, but Conor, you talk to Conor, he thinks that it's a legit, he goes, ah, he's just like Jose Aldo, but shittier version. | ||
| Do you think he's really trying to start his own promotion? | ||
| Do you think that's legit, or that's bullshit? | ||
| What's Conor gonna do about his wrestling? | ||
| What's he gonna do about his wrestling? | ||
| That's real. | ||
| I think so, he has the power. | ||
| He's actually saying, Did he actually say he's going to start his own promotion? | ||
| Listen, man, if I was Conor McGregor, why would I work for the UFC after a while? | ||
| I would go, I'm just going to do the Conor McGregor show. | ||
| Take that shit in the road with all the best concert promoters. | ||
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So it's real? | |
| I would imagine. | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| You guys know, I don't know. | ||
| I would imagine if Conor McGregor has a contract that would allow him at a certain time to no longer be with the UFC, he could do whatever the fuck he wants. | ||
| He can take the sport with him. | ||
| But, here's the question. | ||
| Why would he? | ||
| How dare you ghost those last two fights on that main event? | ||
| Ghost him? | ||
| What? | ||
| What'd you say? | ||
| Amanda Nunez is no joke. | ||
| Let's not talk about that right now. | ||
| What I'm saying about Conor is that Conor is a fucking legit superstar. | ||
| But the UFC made him a superstar. | ||
| The UFC is the perfect vehicle. | ||
| They've got everything down. | ||
| The promotion, the management, the way it's all set up, the way the marketing is on point, it's on another level. | ||
| If you go to some other organization, good luck running a smooth ship. | ||
| What happened to Affliction? | ||
| What happened to Elite XC? What happened to Strikeforce? | ||
| Bellator even. | ||
| Bottom line, bottom line. | ||
| This is the bottom line. | ||
| Conor McGregor would be unknown to the world in Ireland training in a boxing gym if it wasn't for the UFC. I agree 100%. | ||
| You've got to remember that shit. | ||
| The UFC made him famous. | ||
| Agree? | ||
| He still deserves the money. | ||
| It was a cooperative venture. | ||
| There's no either or. | ||
| They're not mutually exclusive in their amount of success that was dependent upon their actions. | ||
| They both benefit from the relationship. | ||
| No, make no mistake about it. | ||
| The UFC would always be big. | ||
| It would always be big. | ||
| If there was never a Conor, the UFC would be just as big. | ||
| But never as big as with a guy like that. | ||
| If you want to be as big as what that guy is, you need a Conor McGregor. | ||
| It's the only way it happens. | ||
| No doubt about it. | ||
| Or Ronda. | ||
| Or Brock Lesnar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've always been fucking fascinated with Conor. | ||
| Maybe GSP today? | ||
| Maybe GSP today. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why do you say that? | ||
| Because I think the UFC today is bigger than it's ever been. | ||
| Oh, you're saying a young GSP? A young GSP today, if he was a champion, goddammit, girls would be... | ||
| Fucking damp panties would be filling up 100,000 seat arenas. | ||
| He's a stud. | ||
| He's a stud. | ||
| He's so big. | ||
| GSP was in his prime when he beat BJ Penn for defending his title. | ||
| When he was in his prime. | ||
| If the UFC was... | ||
| I think the UFC's probably... | ||
| I don't know how many more people watch it now than then, but as far as being well-known, it's way more well-known. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Way more. | ||
| What about BJ Penn coming back? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| That's crazy, right? | ||
| He did the right thing. | ||
| He went to fucking Greg Jackson. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| He thought about it. | ||
| He's sitting there and fucking on Hilo, chilling the volcanoes outside the fucking window. | ||
| He thought about it and he knew it. | ||
| He came back. | ||
| What did he fucking do? | ||
| He goes to Greg Jackson. | ||
| I mean, he did the best fucking thing possible. | ||
| I mean, he could have went to AKA, he could have went to Tristar, all that shit. | ||
| But he decided to go to one of the top fucking schools. | ||
| Greg Jackson's not a bad goddamn choice. | ||
| Oh, it's the best choice. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Well, it's one of like five best choices. | ||
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Yes! | |
| Like, Eric Del Fiero, down at the Lions, that's a best choice. | ||
| You've got Firas Zahabi, who is probably my first choice, or one of them. | ||
| He'd be my number one. | ||
| Him or Lisa As a striking coach, you mean? | ||
| As an everything coach. | ||
| Farras is a mastermind. | ||
| John Donahue is another mastermind. | ||
| That's Farras, though. | ||
| I think Donahue is with Farras. | ||
| Number one, Mighty Mouse is coach. | ||
| Matt Hume. | ||
| So you're right. | ||
| Matt Hume and Farras, a hobby, to me, are commensurate. | ||
| I think they're exactly the same level. | ||
| They're both wizards. | ||
| Both are masters. | ||
| Both those guys, they're masters. | ||
| Matt Hume had more MMA fights, I think. | ||
| Feras had a lot of kickboxing fights. | ||
| But Feras is nasty on the ground, and he's a super genius. | ||
| When it comes to his analytical mind, the way he breaks down fights, he breaks down street fights. | ||
| He does YouTube videos where he breaks down... | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, he breaks down how this guy came at a guy, and he cracked this guy with a left hook, and he explains the footwork, and draws it in a diagram. | ||
| He's also young. | ||
| And you know what he also did? | ||
| He's smart as fuck. | ||
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He's cool. | |
| You know what he did? | ||
| He's younger, and he's been through it like he came up with everyone. | ||
| You know the coolest fucking thing he did? | ||
| He just put out a video where he's testing guard work and ground and pound on guards. | ||
| What guard works best for ground and pound? | ||
| He did this shit. | ||
| He put it on YouTube. | ||
| He put it up. | ||
| So he had him. | ||
| Him. | ||
| Gary Toten and I think Gordon Ryan, they had some dude jump with boxing gloves, jump in their guard and start pounding them. | ||
| And in the video, the guys on the bottom, whether it was Faraz, Gary Toten, or I think it was Gordon, I don't fucking know who that third guy was. | ||
| But they were just wrecking the guy on top with leg locks, just a bunch of different things. | ||
| It was like a revolutionary experimentation, one of the smartest things you could ever do. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| He needs to, I think we should add, there's different scenarios in ground and pound. | ||
| It's not always the same, ground and pound. | ||
| Sometimes a guy's on top, he doesn't want to even be on the ground. | ||
| So if you're not holding him on the ground, he's going to stand up and back out. | ||
| You have to have that, that scenario too. | ||
| What happens in that scenario? | ||
| For a guy that's on top in your guard, you must have pulled guard because he didn't try to take you down. | ||
| He wants to stay on his feet. | ||
| So as soon as you open your guard, he's going to back out and he's gone. | ||
| So what guard is best for that scenario? | ||
| And there's another scenario also. | ||
| You have the scenario where your opponent is getting beat up on his feet. | ||
| So he's taking you down at will and you have to deal with a guy who's trying not to let you stand up. | ||
| So I think... | ||
| Version two of those ground and pound experimentations. | ||
| I thought it was seven or something. | ||
| To figure out what's the best guard. | ||
| I think that's my two cents. | ||
| But what the fuck do I know? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the fact that Feras actually did that, he's already experimenting on what is the best guard for ground and pound. | ||
| It's brilliant. | ||
| I love it. | ||
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I want more. | |
| I want more. | ||
| He makes his UFC debut. | ||
| But I could have swore. | ||
| Eddie, you trying to bet on this main event, son? | ||
| I'm trying to... | ||
| You want to break down the girl again? | ||
| You make a good point, Eddie, and you know what another good point? | ||
| Ryan Callahan talked about Fabrizio Verdum's guard, and he was like, none of our ground and pound worked on him. | ||
| With King Mo, who's a nasty wrestler. | ||
| King Mo's like world-class wrestler. | ||
| We need more of those films than Ferraz did. | ||
| We need those on a consistent basis. | ||
| Here's the thing, though, Eddie. | ||
| I think there's only like five guys who can do that. | ||
| I mean, that's how high in regard I hold Ferraz the hobby. | ||
| His stand-up's ridiculous, too. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| He's just a real martial arts wizard. | ||
| He's a super smart guy. | ||
| You ever talk to him? | ||
| I've trained with him. | ||
| Tell me what that's like. | ||
| He honestly set the blueprint for everyone in Denver, like Shane Carwin, myself, Nate McCart, in the blueprint for GSP. He had them doing all this different stuff. | ||
| A lot of movement. | ||
| He's a genius, man. | ||
| Like what kind of shit? | ||
| Like walking on logs. | ||
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No, definitely know that movement shit. | |
| No movement! | ||
| Playing when I was a kid. | ||
| Playing with rocks. | ||
| A lot of the drilling. | ||
| You have George drill a ton. | ||
| More than we would drill. | ||
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Drill what? | |
| Movement? | ||
| Instead of just sparring. | ||
| No, drilling on the pads, jiu-jitsu movements, starting worst case scenario, where we weren't doing that. | ||
| He's a legit genius. | ||
| I think that's one of the biggest mistakes that people make is too much sparring, even in jiu-jitsu. | ||
| I was talking to a buddy of mine who's a Purple Belt about this, and he's like, he hurt his hip, and he had to get a hip replacement surgery. | ||
| And, you know, he's like our age. | ||
| He's like in his late 40s. | ||
| And he's a very successful businessman, and he went from there to going back to training again, but... | ||
| Once he healed up, he's doing drills. | ||
| And he's like, man, I'm telling you, just from doing all these drills, my jiu-jitsu has gotten much, much better. | ||
| Because now he's constantly improving upon his database of positions. | ||
| Patterns, right? | ||
| Patterns? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's really the only way to get that. | ||
| A lot of it's pattern chunking, man. | ||
| You were talking about Henner, like a good Henner Gracie is, like pattern chunking his whole life. | ||
| He just understands jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Boxing's that way. | ||
| Boxing's a series of patterns, and then mixing them all up. | ||
| So is Taekwondo. | ||
| Dude, look at Johnny Hendricks' body. | ||
| He looks fit. | ||
| Now, Johnny Hendricks beat Tyron Woodley in the NCAA... What are you saying? | ||
| How does he look? | ||
| Johnny Hendricks looks amazing. | ||
| He looks slim, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He doesn't look at all like he had any sort of a weight problem. | ||
| He was underweight this morning. | ||
| Or when they weighed in, he was underweight the morning of the weights. | ||
| That's the French guy. | ||
| This motherfucker. | ||
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Woo! | |
| Jack. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Francis... | ||
| Francis... | ||
| Make that larger. | ||
| Ingano. | ||
| Man, he's a beast. | ||
| He's got some serious power. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And good defense on the ground, too, when he got taken down. | ||
| The dude didn't do shit to him. | ||
| He may be French, but he's West African, sir. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| He's gigantic, too. | ||
| That's a stud. | ||
| That's a warrior. | ||
| When I was interviewing him, I'm like, hi. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Just going to interview you over here. | ||
| I went to interview him, and he decided he wanted to walk away and go see how the guy's feeling after he beat the fuck out of him. | ||
| I'm like, okay. | ||
| I'll just be over here. | ||
| You do your thing, buddy. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| What a man. | ||
| He fucked that dude up. | ||
| I don't know who the fuck he fought. | ||
| He's probably got a tiny dick, right? | ||
| I don't know if the guy he had fought. | ||
| Look at Joe Silva next to him. | ||
| He's a debut to us. | ||
| Look at Joe Silva. | ||
| Look where he comes up to with these guys. | ||
| Oh my lord. | ||
| But he holds their fate. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| He holds their fate. | ||
| Joe Silva, he's a great guy. | ||
| He just needs mushrooms. | ||
| And a fucking reality check. | ||
| Mushrooms are a reality check, Brendan. | ||
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Oh. | |
| I think an ass whoop him would be the same thing. | ||
| Oh, how dare you? | ||
| Listen, I like Joe Silva. | ||
| I have never had any ill dealings with Joe Silva. | ||
| He is my friend. | ||
| I enjoy him as a human being. | ||
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Perfect. | |
| I do not know what the fuck went down with you and Joe Silva. | ||
| Me? | ||
| Ask any fighter. | ||
| You bitches need to work that shit out on your own. | ||
| Nah, now I'm good now. | ||
| Brendan, if you decide in another dimension, you decide to come back and you're going to fucking do it. | ||
| You're going to come back one more time, you're going to make a comeback. | ||
| What camp do you join and what is your strategy? | ||
| It's hard to turn down Muscle Farm with Leaster Bowen right now, but I'd probably go TriStar. | ||
| I like Muscle Farm for a couple reasons. | ||
| One, it's a big new facility. | ||
| Everything's super state-of-the-art and it's got some momentum. | ||
| A lot of dudes are gravitating towards there. | ||
| Leister, Elliott Marshall, Dwayne Ludwig is in cahoots. | ||
| There's a lot of other really good striking coaches. | ||
| You've got Brandon Thatch. | ||
| Is Clegg Weed there now? | ||
| You know why it's happening? | ||
| Clegg Weed is there. | ||
| You know why Muscle Farm is happening? | ||
| Ryan Drexler, the guy who's running it now, he's a student of mine, and he always wanted to... | ||
| He was very successful in the supplement industry, very, very successful, and his passion was to build an MMA, too. | ||
| Years ago! | ||
| Years ago! | ||
| Here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go. | ||
| Clay Guida, that fight with Diego Sanchez and Clay Guida was the craziest fight ever. | ||
| Hendricks and Thompson is about to start, and we gotta pay attention to this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This shit's important. | ||
| First of all, Hendricks, you're right. | ||
| Any predictions? | ||
| Hendricks looks fantastic. | ||
| Hendricks looks so fit. | ||
| Dude, he's never looked like that. | ||
| He looks so fit. | ||
| He's got to solve that wrestling. | ||
| Well, he fucked up in the Tyron Woodley fight. | ||
| He didn't make weight. | ||
| Look at this fucking side stance. | ||
| This side stance is so unusual. | ||
| This is so epic right now. | ||
| How epic is this? | ||
| And here's the thing about Stephen Thompson is that he's been training a lot with Weidman. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| So his wrestling has gotten a lot better, and he's not worried about being taken down. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| He'll get taken down by Johnny. | ||
| He also trains with Ryan Hall. | ||
| He might get taken down, but he might not. | ||
| You're talking about NCAA champ. | ||
| NCAA champ, that's hard to deal with. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| It is hard to deal with. | ||
| You know what else is hard to deal with? | ||
| 57-0 in kickboxing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's super hard to deal with, dude. | ||
| See, Johnny's wrestling's way harder. | ||
| Johnny's wrestling's so tough. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| In an MMA fight, I think the wrestling's hard to deal with. | ||
| Listen, we're watching it. | ||
| Let's just watch it. | ||
| We don't know what the fuck is going to happen. | ||
| You might be right, but you're saying what's definitely going to happen while it's happening. | ||
| That seems ridiculous. | ||
| No, I'm just saying probability. | ||
| That's how I sound like a wizard. | ||
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Are you psychic? | |
| I'm a little psychic, dude. | ||
| I see things exactly one second before they happen. | ||
| This is the worst kind of commentary ever. | ||
| I knew that. | ||
| Imagine if we did commentary like this, saying what's going to happen while different shit is happening. | ||
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Don't say shit! | |
| He's gonna take him down, he's gonna take him down, he's gonna crush him. | ||
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Don't predict! | |
| No, he's not even taking him down. | ||
| No, it's actually happening right now. | ||
| The predictions are making cool. | ||
| Countering, countering. | ||
| Watch this sidekicks, a lot like mine. | ||
| A lot like mine. | ||
| More of that, more of that. | ||
| King to the face, dude, I'm telling you. | ||
| There's very few guys that can avoid the takedown like him and have these kind of skills. | ||
| It's a completely different kind of leg dexterity. | ||
| His movement's nasty. | ||
| Dude, he used to fight in that Chuck Norris league. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Dude, Johnny Hendrix is in a world of trouble here. | ||
| He's getting lit up. | ||
| He's getting lit up like Christmas tree. | ||
| Thompson can do some shit that Hendrix has not seen before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's hard to get a sparring partner. | ||
| It's hard to get a sparring partner like this. | ||
| You're not going to find a guy like him. | ||
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No. | |
| You're not going to. | ||
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And he's hard to take down. | |
| He's hard to take down. | ||
| He is one of the elites in American kickboxing. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| He's a freak. | ||
| Look at him, man. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| He fights like a snake. | ||
| It's hard to deal with. | ||
| It doesn't look good at all. | ||
| So much taller. | ||
| Look at that step in right hand. | ||
| It depends on who you're looking for. | ||
| If you're looking for Thompson, it's looking excellent. | ||
| Yeah, it's looking great. | ||
| I'm talking about Hendricks. | ||
| It's not looking good. | ||
| Hendricks is in a bad situation. | ||
| Hendricks is trying to throw that kick and he's getting caught. | ||
| He's getting timed. | ||
| He's in a terrible situation here. | ||
| This is Ronda Rousey. | ||
| Oh, look at this switch kick! | ||
| Jumping switch kick. | ||
| Jumps with the left and kicks with the right. | ||
| Right hand on the chin. | ||
| God. | ||
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Duh! | |
| He's lighting him up. | ||
| And no relentless. | ||
| How tough is Johnny Hendricks? | ||
| He doesn't even look like he's getting hurt. | ||
| He just keeps coming forward. | ||
| Dude, Wonderboy might be able to do this to everybody. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| I've said that for a long time. | ||
| I think he beats Robbie Lawler. | ||
| I'll call it now. | ||
| Well, he's learning how to fucking fight MMA at the same level that he learned to be this elite kickboxer. | ||
| Did I watch him in that Chuck Norris thing? | ||
| Remember the World Combat League where they were fighting that bull? | ||
| He was in that? | ||
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He was in that? | |
| He was in that. | ||
| He was the champ. | ||
| I don't know if he fought in the world, but I was a fan of that Chuck Norris kickboxing league. | ||
| He was the champion? | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| He was one of the best guys in it. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| He was one of the best guys in it. | ||
| Johnny's covering well. | ||
| Damn, I didn't know that. | ||
| Look at that right hook. | ||
| He just caught it with. | ||
| Dude, look at this dude. | ||
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Oh! | |
| It's over, kid. | ||
| He just dropped him. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Dude, he's gonna fight by title. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| He's crushing it. | ||
| And he's talking to him, saying sorry. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Oh, God. | ||
| Johnny just looked at the clock. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| It's over. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Title shot. | ||
| You can't fight that guy. | ||
| Title shot. | ||
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Title shot. | |
| I've been saying it. | ||
| I've been saying it. | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| He can't even walk. | ||
| Oh no, he was doing the Karate Kid. | ||
| He was never doing the Karate Kid. | ||
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It's epic! | |
| He got you! | ||
|
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Yes! | |
| Dude, are you kidding me? | ||
| Oh my god, he double got me. | ||
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He double got me. | |
| I thought he was hurt. | ||
| Oh shit, son! | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
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Fuck movement! | |
| Fuck movement! | ||
| Fuck it! | ||
| Hey, Conor McGregor, definitely don't try to go up to 70. His movement is karate. | ||
| He has minimal movement! | ||
| I mean, that footwork movement is just like doing all those movement drills with karate, and you see the way he does flips? | ||
| I guarantee you, McGregor will never say the 70-pound belt is looking good to me. | ||
| He'll never say that. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| You don't want to fight this guy. | ||
| Dude, look at this. | ||
| Look at what he did. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Precision typing! | ||
| Oh, that one right there! | ||
| Look at the precision though! | ||
| The precision! | ||
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Bam! | |
| He knew it! | ||
| Bam! | ||
| The uppercut! | ||
| Poor Johnny, man. | ||
| The difference in the level and he nodded at him. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| No, he nods at him. | ||
| He's like, yep, you got me. | ||
| Dude, he got lit up. | ||
| Poor John. | ||
| He couldn't get taken down. | ||
| He couldn't get taken down. | ||
| That was the key. | ||
| This is the former champion who's gone through the best camp of his life. | ||
| He's in the best shape he's ever been. | ||
| He comes in there motivated and he gets torn apart by a genius. | ||
| How do you not give him a title shot? | ||
| How do you not give him a title shot? | ||
| It has to be a title shot. | ||
| We're witnessing the second wave of evolution. | ||
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Woodley just got fucked. | |
| First, that was Machida, but we needed another one. | ||
| We needed another one. | ||
| Machida was like, okay, he's a special one. | ||
| It's still not karate. | ||
| Now, we see it. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| The wave coming. | ||
| He is the wonder boy, dude. | ||
| Guys, this is one round. | ||
| You can do Woodley and him for the fucking title. | ||
| Give Robbie Lawler a little bit of a break. | ||
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Nah, man. | |
| He just got through a war with Carlos Condit. | ||
| Karate is back. | ||
| Give him some time off. | ||
| Karate is back. | ||
| Stronger than ever. | ||
| Jesse Thompson. | ||
| Thompson Lawler. | ||
| Yeah, but come on, son. | ||
| Wouldn't you want to see him versus... | ||
| He'll light Lawler up, in my opinion. | ||
| That's what I'm saying, B. It's hard to take Woodley's title shot away. | ||
| It's very hard. | ||
| You don't have the UFC roles. | ||
| I do, but I'm saying... | ||
| That's six in a row. | ||
| In a sense of fairness, if we're going to look at a sense of fairness, it's very difficult. | ||
| He's going to outstrike everybody. | ||
| But how much would you like to see him versus Damian Myers? | ||
| He's going to outstrike everybody up. | ||
| I'd like to see him fight. | ||
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If Hendricks can't take him down, Maya's not going to be able to take him down. | |
| Wonderboy, he kicks Damian Maia's face. | ||
| He's going to be on a fucking island. | ||
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He and Condit would be a good fight. | |
| I've been predicting the rise of Wonderboy for a while. | ||
| Karate is back. | ||
| He had one bad fight. | ||
| Four years ago. | ||
| He was overtrained against Matt Brown. | ||
| And since then, he's been dominant and getting better every time. | ||
| And he was smart. | ||
| He's a 170. Look at that. | ||
| He goes and trains the 185 pound champion who's one of the grittiest fucking wrestlers in the game. | ||
| He goes to Weidman's camp, Weidman's a bigger guy, and he learns how to survive. | ||
| Bro, people, a lot of people don't know, Steven Wanderboy Thompson got his start from GSP. GSP was fighting Carlos Condit, brought Wanderboy in, I don't know how they met, brought him in. | ||
| And then he sent them to Denver to train with Nate, myself, all the guys, and he was just fucking everybody up. | ||
| Meanwhile, how about this? | ||
| One of the most marketable guys ever. | ||
| The nicest guy. | ||
| Legitimately the nicest, friendliest guy you'd ever want to meet. | ||
| Clean cut. | ||
| Doesn't look like some murderer. | ||
| I hope he asked for a title shot here. | ||
| Like, look at him! | ||
| He's gonna thank God. | ||
| I gotta thank God. | ||
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Shh. | |
| Jesus Christ, this kid's good. | ||
| Good sign for you, only. | ||
| He's religious? | ||
| There's something to this guy's shit. | ||
| If this guy came up to you at a club and said he was a fucking badass striker, you'd laugh at him. | ||
| I'm gonna go to church and get better at fighting. | ||
| I knew he was gonna try and get into the cage. | ||
| Use his hands to set it up for the takedown. | ||
| Like, this guy's on fucking speed. | ||
| Look at that front leg side kick, dude. | ||
| You see the extension? | ||
| Look at that front round kick. | ||
| Looks a lot like mine. | ||
| Well, it'd be better if it wasn't. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Left hand. | ||
| It doesn't look anything like yours. | ||
| You shut the fuck up. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Look at that right hand. | ||
| Dude, he's a sniper. | ||
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Ouch. | |
| He's a fucking sniper. | ||
| Look at that right uppercut. | ||
| No one's ever beat Johnny Hendrix like that. | ||
| Dude, not like that. | ||
| Look at that right kick to the body on the way out. | ||
| Johnny's so fucking tough, though. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| To the arms. | ||
| Well, come on, man. | ||
| You gotta give it up. | ||
| He's a genius. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| I like Johnny, too. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| Hashtag Callen called it. | ||
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Of course I called it, dude. | |
| I got my fucking barbell jeans on. | ||
| I will fight tonight. | ||
| Dude, you were a genius tonight. | ||
| You were right in every fight. | ||
| I was quiet in the beginning. | ||
| Every fight? | ||
| I was tired in the beginning. | ||
| He was wrong in every fight. | ||
| He was right every fight. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Dude, Carol was on fire tonight. | ||
| I thought you said he's a genius. | ||
| We only have five minutes left. | ||
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I'll tell you what, Wonderbar Thompson, he put everybody on notice. | |
| How badly are these things timed? | ||
| It was a first round knockout. | ||
| Let's hear Johnny. | ||
| Johnny's a man. | ||
| Let me hear. | ||
| Turn this out. | ||
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Let's hear Johnny Come here That's a man right there Yeah. | |
| Yeah, let's not interview him after you said that. | ||
| That's fine, because that just shows his character. | ||
| Johnny's awesome. | ||
| He's been real. | ||
| He's a great guy. | ||
| Johnny Hendricks is a man, and he's awesome. | ||
| He's a man. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| He's the nicest guy ever. | ||
| He had to fight a fucking monster who strikes, has been striking since he was three years old. | ||
| You know what he's fighting right now? | ||
| He's fighting a Wonderboy. | ||
| He's figured out how to stay standing. | ||
| He's figured out how to do it where he's gotten so comfortable with it they can get loose. | ||
| That was the dark day. | ||
| See, that's not the way to be dramatic. | ||
| You're forced to stay higher than everybody else. | ||
| This is how you be dramatic when you say this. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| Hey dude, you know what he was fighting? | ||
| The future. | ||
| And that's all you gotta say, brother. | ||
| But no one's gonna give you that amount of time. | ||
| That's sort of a format. | ||
| Why, the pause? | ||
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The pause? | |
| The four people, everyone drinking coffee and talking shit. | ||
| You don't have that time for that. | ||
| No, I can't pause. | ||
| I can't pause. | ||
| This is a wolf den, son. | ||
| See, I turned back. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Well, at the beginning, you guys were talking about fucking all these details, and these guys had never heard of it. | ||
| I was like, I can't find an opening. | ||
| I was trying to give you an opening for wine. | ||
| I was trying to give you props for your wine skills. | ||
| But I was kicking when you talked about that. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| I mean, you know, you can just sabotage me. | ||
| Brian's wine skills are off the charts. | ||
| Not bad, right? | ||
| You're not mad. | ||
| Oh, your wine skills are off the charts. | ||
| You know as much about wine as my business manager who's got a fucking wine cellar in his house. | ||
| I pay attention. | ||
| I'm obsessed. | ||
| He's one of those dudes. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I'll sit in a wine store and talk to the guy for hours. | ||
| My wife has just dragged me out. | ||
| I'll call my friend Matt. | ||
| I'll call him from, like, anywhere. | ||
| I'll be like, alright, dude. | ||
| I'm in some Cabernets right now. | ||
| Let me read you some shit. | ||
| This is expensive shit. | ||
| Is this any good? | ||
| Just tell me which is a good one. | ||
| He'll give me, that's a good one. | ||
| What year is it? | ||
| 97? | ||
| 95 is a better year, but 97 is not bad. | ||
| Cal is the go-to. | ||
| Dude from Tool has good wine? | ||
| Dude from Tool has good wine? | ||
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Who? | |
| Dude from Tool. | ||
| Oh, fuck yeah. | ||
| The band Tool? | ||
| He's got good wine? | ||
| He definitely does. | ||
| Have you ever had Maynard's wine? | ||
| It's delicious. | ||
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No, I haven't. | |
| Who's Maynard? | ||
| Maynard Keenan. | ||
| Purple Belt and Jiu Jitsu, by the way. | ||
| From Tool. | ||
| He was the one I was talking about before, when I was talking about my friend who injured his hip. | ||
| I just didn't want a name drop. | ||
| Oh, word. | ||
| He owns Caducey. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| He does everything. | ||
| If he does anything... | ||
| He does it well. | ||
| He does it at a black belt level. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I eat singer of Tool. | ||
| He makes... | ||
| Fucking fantastic. | ||
| Back on the mats. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Drilling. | ||
| You know, he's my age. | ||
| Great music. | ||
| He's ridiculous. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Like an intellectual... | ||
| He's a no-bullshit kind of a guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he called me up because I had that Primal guy on, Mark Sisson, and he got a lot of things right, but apparently when he was talking about wine, Maynard was like... | ||
| Stay in your lane, son. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| Yeah, he's like, we don't use 87 different chemicals. | ||
| He's like, we use some natural shit like yeast. | ||
| You know, maybe. | ||
| And, you know, maybe some tannins. | ||
| It's remarkably simple when you see how they make wine a lot of times. | ||
| Remarkably simple. | ||
| Jesus Christ, Wonderboy's good. | ||
| Good God. | ||
| He's a snake, man. | ||
| I've been saying this not to be a dick. | ||
| I've been saying this from... | ||
| Since 1986. No, you have. | ||
| I remember back in the day. | ||
| The way he moves, man. | ||
| In Vegas. | ||
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Dude, he just fucked up the number two welterweight in the world. | |
| Eddie fucked him up in the first round. | ||
| Look at that fight. | ||
| He crushed him in the first round. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Dude, we might be looking at the champion right there. | ||
| We really might be looking at the champion. | ||
| Who's going to beat him? | ||
| I've been saying it. | ||
| I've been saying it. | ||
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I'll tell you what. | |
| Robbie Law is goddamn ferocious. | ||
| That motherfucker knocked out Melvin Manhoff. | ||
| Robbie doesn't touch him. | ||
| It's a horrible matchup. | ||
| Horrible matchup for Robbie. | ||
| You might be right, but... | ||
| Johnny Hendricks was the worst matchup. | ||
| You might be right, but I believe there's a difference in the amount of danger that Robbie Lawler will put himself in versus the amount of danger that Johnny Hendricks will put himself in. | ||
| I'm just saying the amount of danger he'll put himself in trying to hit him. | ||
| Robbie Lawler will take some crazy-ass fucking chances and do some explosive, ridiculously aggressive shit. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| Even as a champion. | ||
| He might not land it, but dude, he knocked Melvin Manhoof... | ||
| Dead. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| He's so indestructible. | ||
| It was a fight where Manhoof was teeing off on him. | ||
| He was treating him like a piñata. | ||
| Like a piñata. | ||
| Just kicking his leg. | ||
| His leg looked like it was on a string. | ||
| And then he just tucked his head and threw him right. | ||
| You gotta give Wonderboy the title shot. | ||
| Well, I believe so. | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| But I think that Tyron Woodley still has a real good argument that he deserves the title shot. | ||
| Even though he's not as impressive as this guy, because his last fight he won by injury. | ||
| You know, right? | ||
| Carlos Condit kicked, fucked up his knee. | ||
| So fucking good. | ||
| He was winning that fight, though. | ||
| He definitely won the first round. | ||
| That's a tough argument, especially as far as markability right now. | ||
| No, I'm just saying that he was supposed to be fighting Johnny Hendricks for the number one title shot. | ||
| Johnny Hendricks had to pull out because he didn't make weight, and essentially Tyron was promised a title shot. | ||
| I don't think it's a bad thing. | ||
| I don't think it's a bad thing if Wonderboy waits out and knocks somebody else off. | ||
| Because I'm telling you, a performance like this is like some superstar emerging shit. | ||
| Dude, he looked like a genius tonight. | ||
| A striking genius. | ||
| Look at that spinning back kick to the arm. | ||
| It's like getting hit by a fucking bat in your arms. | ||
| He's kicking him in the arms. | ||
| Johnny Hendrix is like, what the fuck? | ||
| It's like getting hit by a machine, right? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| A guy who kicks like him, everything he's doing is perfect. | ||
| This is like an example. | ||
| This is a direct example of what we were talking about when we were going over the technique of the kick. | ||
| He throws everything. | ||
| He slides into it. | ||
| He turns his hip over. | ||
| He turns his hip over and he throws punches. | ||
| He's laser beam accurate, man. | ||
| And sees what you're doing before you do it, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| See, oh, you're going to throw a right, and let me just move a little bit back, ba-bang! | ||
| Dude, the way he landed that right kick to the body, that right kick to the body in that exchange before, it was extraordinary because he knows he's on the way out, but he also knows where Hendrick's left arm is, and he sneaks that right kick right under it as he's sliding backwards, which very few people are going to be able to do. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| I gotta take my fighting more seriously. | ||
| No matter what you do in martial arts, like I said before, we all have a certain amount of time to drill. | ||
| So whatever the kung fu, the karate guys, whatever they were doing during the dark ages when we thought it didn't work, whatever they were doing, they were getting really good at it at that range and getting fucking the best at that range. | ||
| Maybe they can get taken down easily. | ||
| Maybe they don't know any jujitsu. | ||
| But now we've gotten to the point where they spent all that time in that range and now they added and supplemented wrestling so they can stay in that range. | ||
| The range that they rule. | ||
| The range that they spent all their time in. | ||
| The range that nobody else spent that much time in that range. | ||
| But they got the wrestling and the surrounding. | ||
| They can stay in that range that they rule in during the dark ages when everyone thought that didn't work. | ||
| But hey, guess what? | ||
| Now it fucking works because I got all that shit to supplement. | ||
| I love Eddie. | ||
| And you're fucked up! | ||
| That's what we just talked to! | ||
| We just talked karate, kung fu, taekwondo! | ||
| When Eddie talks, he talks like a conspiracy. | ||
| He's like, dude... | ||
| We have to end this podcast on that, because we're literally out of time. | ||
| We're at the three-hour mark. | ||
| We're at the three-hour mark. | ||
| Did we go over yet? | ||
| Yeah, we slightly went over three hours, so most of this is gone. | ||
| Good night, everybody. | ||
| Good night. | ||
| Big kiss. | ||
| Eddie, you were great to ramble. |
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