Oct. 6, 2015 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Who's the real captain? | ||
| Live! | ||
| We're live. | ||
| Who is the real captain, man? | ||
| We're talking about the new Star Trek versus the old Star Trek. | ||
| This is shit grown men do in their spare time. | ||
| Take motherfucking Fletcher! | ||
| Is that Echo in New Mexico? | ||
| Yes, my Nuevo shirt. | ||
| Ah, Nuevo Cerveza. | ||
| You know, New Mexico might be the only shape of a state that sort of makes sense. | ||
| It's fucking square. | ||
| Basically square. | ||
| It's like square, but it looks like on the bottom, some dudes just had some miscommunication. | ||
| Like, fucking dude, you're supposed to be over here! | ||
| That's Mexico had the miscommunication. | ||
| Oh, the line. | ||
| I just want that good part. | ||
| Mexico wanted, like, there must have been a cool elk hunting spot. | ||
| Probably. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And New Mexico's like, yo, we need this little area, this little block off in that corner. | ||
| New Mexico's like one of the premier elk hunting spots in the country. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Different, like when I was a kid in Michigan, we would hunt, and maybe, I don't know, when I was like 12 or something, stuff changed, because elk used to be not hunted, and then they opened up a season on them. | ||
| So fucking elk, you could walk up to a herd. | ||
| Of a hundred deep. | ||
| And I remember there'd be sentries, they would post young bull elks all around the perimeter. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It was fucking wild, dude. | ||
| They were almost tame. | ||
| And then the year after they opened up permits, as skittish as white-tailed deer. | ||
| It was really crazy. | ||
| One of the best hunting experiences I had there. | ||
| I was in like a pit blind with a bow and there were a bunch of doe at a feed pile and then I was in this big rye field and I hear like come through the woods and then another and these elk met. | ||
| Two bulls. | ||
| And they started smashing horns. | ||
| And I was fucking blown away. | ||
| The deer didn't give a shit. | ||
| They're like, just eating whatever. | ||
| Not even our species, we're good. | ||
| It was awesome, man. | ||
| I love growing up. | ||
| The woods are rad, man. | ||
| It's so cool that you got into hunting. | ||
| And you're deep, deep, deep in it. | ||
| I'm too deep. | ||
| There's nothing better than that. | ||
| I'm obsessed. | ||
| But the elk thing is so strange. | ||
| The noises they make. | ||
| When we were hunting in Colorado, when the females see you, they bark. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| Like, they let everybody know. | ||
| They let everybody know. | ||
| It's so open, there's all that huge tracking. | ||
| Like, you've got to be an athlete. | ||
| New Mexico and Colorado, it's a different kind of hunt. | ||
| Well, Colorado, where we were, was in the mountains. | ||
| It was all trees and stuff, and it was all about hiding behind trees and bringing them to you. | ||
| And being on a run or something, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, trying to be near where they are. | ||
| And since it's the rut, you're trying to make noises, you know, like cow calls, or you're trying to bring them in, or you're trying to sneak up on them. | ||
| You put dope piss all over you, and you're like, yeah. | ||
| Is that the new shit? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was listening to this podcast. | ||
| It's a TED Talk podcast, and I don't know if you've ever seen that video, but there's a video that got around. | ||
| About when they reintroduced wolves to Yellowstone Park. | ||
| But you can't hunt in Yellowstone Park. | ||
| So the animals in Yellowstone Park are the same way that you were talking about those elk. | ||
| Elk are the same way. | ||
| Like, they somehow or another know that people are not going to hunt them. | ||
| That's the weird thing about it and how it changed. | ||
| Like, in one season, I'm like... | ||
| How are they all symbiotic in this way where they all communicate? | ||
| Because none of them had been hunted. | ||
| It's like all of a sudden, all the fucking elk knew, though. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| You know what it's like, I think? | ||
| Is there something wrong? | ||
| You know what it's like? | ||
| You know how you see birds when they fly in those big... | ||
| Or Schools of Fish. | ||
| Yeah, Schools of Fish. | ||
| And they all turn on a dime. | ||
| The flocks just know where everybody's going. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| There's some sort of strange communication. | ||
| There's a telepathy, I think. | ||
| And I think that... | ||
| You read that book, The Rise of Superman? | ||
| No, I haven't. | ||
| I heard it's awesome, though. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| And they talk about... | ||
| I think the movie was Transformers, that all these dudes in wingsuits went off the... | ||
| Is it the Sears Tower in Chicago? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And making almost 90-degree banks and stuff. | ||
| And there are four of them, and they're following each other. | ||
| And if one guy goes... | ||
| After I see you move, I'm too late. | ||
| I have to move as you're moving, or else I ruin the airflow and all that, and then I hit the building. | ||
| And so these guys practice in the Alps, but they talked about that, that you need to be in that flow state, and that you start to work with each other in a way that is supernatural. | ||
| Which is crazy, because I felt that flow state as a singular person in Different events in my life, but that kind of thing where they're working in tandem with each other and they're all talking to each other, and I think that's the way that fish move. | ||
| That's the way, what is it that gives a frog the sense to jump off the lily pad right as the hawk is diving before the hawk's moved or whatever. | ||
| All those fish, it's not like one turns and then the rest follows. | ||
| They all move uniformly. | ||
| Yeah, the schools of fish and the flocks of birds are so magical. | ||
| When you watch them dance in the sky, those giant flocks of birds. | ||
| How are they not just slamming heads? | ||
| What is going on there? | ||
| And then the hawks, the birds of prey are so different than that. | ||
| No flocks of them. | ||
| That meat is a different kind of thing. | ||
| It does something to people or animals. | ||
| Yeah, those seed-eating birds are the ones that can kind of do that. | ||
| They're like, we really need each other. | ||
| The ones that are meat-eaters are like, I'm good. | ||
| This same TED Talk, this guy was talking about how humans, it was a different guy, same podcast though, was talking about how humans interrupt the natural symphony of nature. | ||
| And that this symphony, there's a frequency that all these different animals operate at. | ||
| There's like a frog has a niche in this frequency, and a bird has a niche in this frequency. | ||
| And they were talking about how when frogs, when you have a whole swamp filled with frogs... | ||
| It scares off predators. | ||
| Well, what it also does, it makes it impossible to locate them, because there's so much sound coming from so many different places, you can't find them. | ||
| They have these low-flying jets in this area, because this is a place where they practice, where pilots practice, fighter pilots. | ||
| And so they fly these jets like 600 meters above the ground, which is pretty low. | ||
| And they go, sheesh! | ||
| They're fucking supersonic speeds. | ||
| They're fucking just going crazy over the swamp. | ||
| And the disruption of sound is so intense that everything stops for a while. | ||
| And then slowly these frogs start to re-synchronize. | ||
| So like one will rid it, one will rid it, and then they'll try to find each other and get into that rhythm again. | ||
| But when that happens, when they're trying to find that rhythm, that's when all the hawks, all the owls, and all the coyotes know exactly when to move in. | ||
| So they move in then, and they start picking apart all these frogs. | ||
| They find the frogs and they eat them. | ||
| It's really interesting, like they know that there's like a disruption in the frequency. | ||
| And I wonder how the, like, so are those predation animals working on a different frequency than the frogs then? | ||
| Or like, they're opportunists in this way where they're like, this is a time, you know? | ||
| Yeah, they must be opportunists. | ||
| I think, I mean, I think the whole idea of, the way he was describing it, the way the frogs do it, where you know how like you're in the swamp or something like that and you hear frogs? | ||
| You don't know where the fuck they are. | ||
| There's so many of them. | ||
| Or even sometimes what it is. | ||
| Like they sound fucking crazy. | ||
| Yeah, there's so many of them. | ||
| And so when they have to kind of find each other, because their sound is so intense when the jet flies over, everybody stops what they're doing. | ||
| And so they're like, are we doing this? | ||
| Are we doing this? | ||
| Let's do it! | ||
| Let's do it! | ||
| How long does it take them to recalibrate? | ||
| It wasn't long. | ||
| It was only a few minutes. | ||
| It was like, I think... | ||
| I want to say 15 minutes, but I might be mistaken. | ||
| But it was less than an hour. | ||
| And in that time, they're trying to get their shit back together again, and they just get jacked. | ||
| That's the thing about us humans being the disruption. | ||
| I read something somewhere, I heard a podcast where they're like, There's a kid or somebody that developed a bacteria or some kind of biome that will eat plastic and maybe take care of the big island of plastic. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I started thinking about that. | ||
| I'm like, we're fucking idiots. | ||
| Like, we created plastic. | ||
| Like, that was our solution then, too. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like, we put... | ||
| Nuclear reactors on the biggest fault line in the world where it's the most active. | ||
| Like, that's how smart we are. | ||
| And, like, what do you do when you create a bacteria or something that will eat plastic? | ||
| What happens when all the plastic's gone? | ||
| Like, is that like, you know, is that like the introducing, oh, we've got a rabbit problem in Australia. | ||
| Let's get a fox. | ||
| And then we've got a fox problem. | ||
| You know, it's like... | ||
| That's Australia. | ||
| Australia's crazy. | ||
| My buddy Adam lives there. | ||
| We don't learn from anything. | ||
| We're the most adaptable creature, and we're like, let's go ahead and get some... | ||
| We've got a desert. | ||
| Get the golf courses out here. | ||
| Let's go ahead and do that. | ||
| Well, that was what was interesting about this TED podcast, is this same guy who was talking about the wolves, who's done that video about the wolves in Yellowstone. | ||
| It's really interesting, because he's got... | ||
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He's got an English accent, and he's very enthusiastic about the wolves in Yellowstone, and amazing things have happened. | |
| This guy's crazy, though, because he didn't just want to bring wolves back to Yellowstone. | ||
| Now he's talking about bringing megafauna to England. | ||
| See, they did these studies where they dug deep into the ground, and they found fossilized remains from 10,000-plus years ago of lions. | ||
| And elephants, this crazy fucker, is talking about reintroducing lions to England. | ||
| We need that. | ||
| But what's interesting about this cat is that he admitted that all this fascination with wolves and everything came out of a midlife crisis. | ||
| He's like, he went into a midlife crisis, and then his solution was to get... | ||
| I'm a little bit of a pussy, and now my spirit animal is a wolf. | ||
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Yes, exactly! | |
| Exactly! | ||
| So this dude got like really super into wolves and super into the idea of what he calls rewilding. | ||
| But the thing is, like he was talking about how megafauna used to live in England and that human predation and all that stuff wiped them out. | ||
| But that hasn't been proven. | ||
| They don't know that for a fact. | ||
| It is entirely possible that the climate was just not the best climate for them, and then also natural disasters. | ||
| And then also the absolute fact that 90 plus percent of everything that has ever lived ever is extinct. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So this guy's idea of reintroducing... | ||
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We don't want to let anything die. | |
| Don't want to kill nothing. | ||
| Don't want to let nothing die. | ||
| We are the ultimate pussy, arrogant fuckers that are building golf courses in deserts. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Well, the wolf thing is so fascinating. | ||
| Okay, so there's both sides of that. | ||
| I've heard both like, it's awesome that we have wolves again there, and then I've heard people are like, this is really the decimation of an environment. | ||
| Like, this changed the environment and the topographical makeup of Yellowstone so much that we're retarding growth in a lot of ways. | ||
| I mean, anytime you're ready to do something, there's an alteration, but is it for the good or the bad? | ||
| Well, it's good for some species. | ||
| It's really good for some birds. | ||
| It's really good for a lot of different kinds of plants and trees. | ||
| It's really good for trees because Yellowstone had such a huge population of deer and elk. | ||
| And bison and all these different animals, they were just eating the shit out of all the grass, and the trees got thicker, and they grew taller. | ||
| Like, within six years, they grew much, much taller. | ||
| It's part of the TED talk this guy gave. | ||
| And the root system got stronger. | ||
| Because the root system got stronger, the path of the rivers was... | ||
| Changed. | ||
| Yeah, it changed, and it was... | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's really, really intense. | ||
| So it is good for some animal. | ||
| It's not good for the elk and for the deer. | ||
| But did they take those anyway? | ||
| Would rangers go out and be like, we need to take 50 deer out this year? | ||
| Or like, there's no hunting? | ||
| I don't think there's any hunting, but they do in certain circumstances, in places where there's no hunting, they will bring in people to kill the population if it gets too high. | ||
| And handpick what... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the solution to that is allow hunters to go into Yellowstone. | ||
| But the problem with that, of course, is that Yellowstone's a national park and people are out there hiking and shit. | ||
| You don't want yahoos out there shooting guns. | ||
| That's why I think you'd just have rangers and you'd be like, this section is closed and make sure there's no campers go through it, all that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's hard, though. | ||
| Pick your animal. | ||
| You think about how many animals an animal can give birth to, and if there's no wolves. | ||
| That's the other thing about hunting. | ||
| One of the things you realize is how much woods there really are. | ||
| How deep the... | ||
| Everyone's talking about... | ||
| The human beings have absolutely taken over big parts of this country. | ||
| Southern California, I mean you go around the Los Angeles area, like the wildlife that used to be here has all been pushed out. | ||
| But there's still areas that are insanely wild and Yellowstone is one of them. | ||
| I mean there's a lot of wilderness out there. | ||
| When I fly from here to New Mexico, it's like... | ||
| Fly over New Mexico and tell me, like, there's just no land anymore. | ||
| It's like there's fucking no people living anywhere in most of that state. | ||
| Like, it's just that it's not something happening. | ||
| And there's a fucking mountain lion that stalked and hunted one of my friends in Hollywood, in the Hollywood Hills. | ||
| She was at a party for, like, Fourth of July or something. | ||
| Parked her car in a little cul-de-sac house that people are gone on vacation, some really rich folks up in the hills. | ||
| She walks down and she and two friends and fucking... | ||
| And there's a fucking mountain lion that's there. | ||
| They're in a cul-de-sac. | ||
| The mountain lion's here and there's nowhere to go. | ||
| There's a fence into the... | ||
| Fucking crazy story. | ||
| So anyway, she ends up... | ||
| Yelling at it, scaring at it, jumping on top of this Audi or some car that was there, that was parked there, screaming at it, and then that stopped it from advancing, but still, I was like, what sounds did it make? | ||
| And she's like, oh, it was like a beast from a movie. | ||
| It was crazy, just talking to her. | ||
| But you would think that if that was the case, it might have been cornered. | ||
| But it wasn't. | ||
| It was cornering them. | ||
| Yeah, but why would it corner them and just growl at them? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Like a big cat would be stealthy. | ||
| No idea. | ||
| But made itself known. | ||
| She jumped the fence. | ||
| Tried to break the windows of the house. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Got a 911 call out. | ||
| It was sketchy service. | ||
| Thanks a lot, AT&T. And, uh... | ||
| So I switched to Verizon. | ||
| AT&T, they're just not reliable. | ||
| Mountain lions hunting friends. | ||
| They're like, when I want to switch it to, they go, well, were you using your phone in a high traffic zone? | ||
| I'm like, a high traffic zone? | ||
| I'm like, are you just telling me you oversold your system and that I can only call at certain times? | ||
| Because you charge me every minute of the fucking day. | ||
| Anyway, I digress. | ||
| And then the phone call dropped. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| I was in the Verizon store. | ||
| The phone call dropped? | ||
| To the AT&T guy. | ||
| While you were in the Verizon store? | ||
| That's adorable. | ||
| And the AT&T guy goes, no, my battery went dead. | ||
| I'm like, motherfucker, you're a tech geek. | ||
| You know your shit is bunk. | ||
| You know on the street your friends laugh. | ||
| They're like, oh, you sling that AT&T shit. | ||
| You know that shit. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Just tell me it's funny. | ||
| You know it's funny. | ||
| He's like, no, I don't understand what you mean, sir. | ||
| I'm like, I can't even talk to you. | ||
| That's baby powder cut cocaine, son. | ||
| Yeah, come on. | ||
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Stop all that. | |
| Stop all that shit. | ||
| Anyway, the lion was tagged. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And so that's why she didn't get charged with, like, an attempted breaking and entering and all this shit from the security cameras on the people's house. | ||
| Because they knew where the lion was. | ||
| Because they're like, yeah, the lion fucking was down. | ||
| And I'm like, so you got tagged lions that are in high-density population, like, right in downtown Hollywood. | ||
| Yeah, we're super, super arrogant about mountain lions. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| In California, you can't hunt mountain lions. | ||
| They're not hunted. | ||
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Right. | |
| So because of that, their population has skyrocketed. | ||
| And this place that I'm going to, the Tohono Ranch, There's one waterhole that they have where they took pictures of sixteen different mountain lions. | ||
| I mean, they have a massive population of animals up there because it's 270,000 acres. | ||
| Whose ranch is it? | ||
| It's privately owned. | ||
| Privately owned giant ranch and it's just huge. | ||
| There's nothing going on up there other than hunting and some, you know, I think they have a water pipeline goes through it and a bunch of other ways they make money off the ranch, but it's not like there's a lot of people there. | ||
| It's very, very few people go in and out of the ranch. | ||
| So these fucking cats are the run of the land, and there's elk up there, and there's deer up there, and there's a lot of pigs up there, and they just party. | ||
| I want to put GoPros on them all. | ||
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Like fucking stalk it, like be badass. | |
| Why do I think someone did something like that recently? | ||
| They put a GoPro on something. | ||
| Those park rangers, they're not fulfilling their fucking need. | ||
| If they're not... | ||
| Dart those things, put GoPros on them, and let's watch. | ||
| Well, how long will the battery last, though? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| They need to get Tesla in there. | ||
| Figure it out. | ||
| Let's go, Elon. | ||
| Do something for this world. | ||
| You've got a battery that'll never fucking disintegrate and that we're going to keep around forever that's polluting the environment for sure, but you can't get that on a mountain lion? | ||
| Come on. | ||
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Use it for my entertainment at least. | |
| Serious. | ||
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I think that there's going to be, in the future, there's going to be batteries that just don't run out of juice. | |
| Like, we're going to look back 100 years from now, they're going to laugh at us. | ||
| Piles of batteries and landfills and shit. | ||
| Hopefully we get to the place where we can be laughed at. | ||
| Hopefully, if we make it, right? | ||
| I mean, that's the thing, is I think we get just smart enough, I mean, you say it all the time, just smart enough to where we can go ahead and have our own destruction because of our progress, because we won't stop progress. | ||
| It's like, it's a weird thing. | ||
| It's like that thing I think Duncan was talking about, that Elon Musk put $10 million towards, like, This is going to guard us in the future against the rise of the machines type shit. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| He wanted to stop artificial intelligence. | ||
| Well, he wants to protect us or at least analyze artificial intelligence. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Show me where progress got halted. | ||
| It's like progress. | ||
| It's like a weed. | ||
| You can't stop us. | ||
| My hope about progress is they figure out a way to make no residue. | ||
| No footprint? | ||
| There's no waste. | ||
| Right now, we create pollution, right? | ||
| But we had that. | ||
| How did we have that? | ||
| Did you ever read that goddamn book? | ||
| About food. | ||
| Anyway, and it surveyed three different meals. | ||
| And one was like a fast food meal. | ||
| Another was like an all organic home cooked meal. | ||
| Another was a meal that like you made everything. | ||
| Like you made the flour, you harvested the yeast, you did all that kind of stuff. | ||
| And It was the omnivore's dilemma was the name of it. | ||
| And like farms used to be like that. | ||
| Like you'd have some sheep and some pigs and some chickens and they would shit all over here and you'd be growing wheat or corn or whatever over here. | ||
| Then they'd move over here and then you'd move your crops over here. | ||
| And so you had a continual fertilization and self-utilized farm. | ||
| And then we moved all the animals off the farm and put them in feedlots. | ||
| And then now we just grow one crop over and over again. | ||
| So we need to have... | ||
| Yeah, but even if they're doing that, you're still using farm equipment. | ||
| The farm equipment had to be built somewhere, the construction materials, there's residue, there's waste, there's all sorts of pollution that comes out of the machines themselves. | ||
| There's some people that are trying to figure out a way how to take carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and utilize it, how to take waste, like all the different waste products that people create, With all the different things that we do, whether it's making computers or whether it's driving buses and figure out a way to turn that waste into something profitable or into something useful. | ||
| It has to be hella profitable. | ||
| Well, it'd have to be hell useful, too, right? | ||
| That's the idea behind the plastic island in the ocean. | ||
| How do you utilize that? | ||
| It's not really an island. | ||
| People get mad if you call it an island. | ||
| Because you can't build a house on it? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You can't sell real estate there. | ||
| We can't live on that, so fuck you. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| Alright, I figured it made its own environment, though. | ||
| What do we call it? | ||
| It's a floating shit. | ||
| Can we call it cancer? | ||
| Floating shit, like the size of Texas. | ||
| They don't even know how big it is, really. | ||
| That's disputed, too. | ||
| I like how all the plastic finds each other. | ||
| Everybody wants community, even plastic. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I think that's beautiful. | ||
| It is beautiful. | ||
| It's like a love story. | ||
| Plastic, a love story. | ||
| Plastic, a love story. | ||
| It could be a new show right there. | ||
| That should be one of those little 15-minute shorts before you watch a kid's movie. | ||
| You know what, dude? | ||
| That's what I need to do. | ||
| Fuck all this other shit. | ||
| I need to get a job with Chevron or something or the plastic companies, and I'll be the guy that goes out there. | ||
| I remember when we were filming Two Guns, and I was in Louisiana, and they just fucked up the whole gulf. | ||
| It's like way to go. | ||
| You were there when that happened? | ||
| It was right after that. | ||
| Did you smell it? | ||
| No. | ||
| I didn't go down. | ||
| It wasn't like that right there. | ||
| I wasn't on the shores. | ||
| How far away were you? | ||
| We're in New Orleans. | ||
| And how far away is that from the water? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Not that far, right? | ||
| The river runs out into it and all that. | ||
| So you didn't smell anything crazy? | ||
| I mean, New Orleans smells fucking weird. | ||
| Anyway, there's a lot of new smells to me. | ||
| I went to Bourbon Street and I was like, this is just like, and they got everybody at Walmart hammered and brought a party bus and dropped them off. | ||
| That's what Bourbon Street's like. | ||
| It's a trip. | ||
| Bourbon Street's awesome. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| And then it feels like you walk back all through that corridor and you're like, It's all misty and shit, and you're like, this is where Jack the Ripper lives. | ||
| It's fucking eerie as fuck back there. | ||
| And there's tranny hookers and fucking all kinds of darkness all through there. | ||
| It's a trip. | ||
| There's a lot of darkness. | ||
| But anyway, BP is doing all this shit, and they're going, look at what we've done to help. | ||
| I could be one of those spin doctors for the plastic guys. | ||
| The look at what we've done to help is adorable. | ||
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It was awesome. | |
| I was like, I really believe these guys. | ||
| These are great commercials. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Look what we've done to help. | ||
| Even though we've dumped millions of gallons of oil. | ||
| It's like Halliburton. | ||
| They could be like, look at all these dead Iraqis. | ||
| Look at what we've done to help. | ||
| And then they could show them Baghdad like five years ago and Baghdad now. | ||
| It's a little different. | ||
| It used to be like New York City. | ||
| Now it's caves. | ||
| What we're trying to do is we start from scratch and then do it right this time. | ||
| Take people and do it right. | ||
| You know that is one of the arguments that historians use like it's in the beginning of Dan Carlin's hardcore history series on the Mongols. | ||
| Did you listen to that? | ||
| You know he's talking about Hitler in the beginning of the thing he's talking about how the way people talk about Genghis Khan today They say that he opened up the trade routes with China and all the things they try to put a positive spin on what he did but the reason why they could do that is because It was a thousand years ago. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if they try to do that about Hitler, it's too soon. | ||
| He's like, it's an interesting thing that people do when it comes to history. | ||
| Too soon is a funny hashtag. | ||
| Hashtag too soon. | ||
| Hitler, hashtag too soon. | ||
| Hashtag blessed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Every revolution starts with a fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I learned that today on the UFC promo for Ronda and Holly. | ||
| Pfft! | ||
| Have you seen the thing that they've done? | ||
| Well, actually, I can't talk about it. | ||
| I don't think it's going to be public yet. | ||
| I cried when I saw it. | ||
| It was so good. | ||
| They're doing great fucking promo work for Holly and Rhonda's fight. | ||
| Oh, the one with her? | ||
| And it shows them as little girls coming up. | ||
| Oh, you did see that one. | ||
| Did you cry? | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| You know what brought it on is when Holly as a little girl is sitting in church and the people are looking at her... | ||
| Because she's got a black eye. | ||
| And it looks up and she's got a black eye and she kind of gives that smile. | ||
| And what made me cry is the pride of a black eye that people don't have. | ||
| There's not a lot of people that would know what that is. | ||
| To be proud. | ||
| She worked for that black eye. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, people would look at a girl with a black eye and think that she got beat by her man. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| That's what a lot of people think. | ||
| I don't think that way. | ||
| I don't see color, Joe. | ||
| That's not a color thing, dude. | ||
| I think that's a male-female. | ||
| It's a gender thing. | ||
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Could be. | |
| I'm just not that aggressive. | ||
| It is a funny thing, man. | ||
| Why do you laugh, Jamie? | ||
| It is a funny thing, man. | ||
| If you train a lot and you have a black eye, it's kind of a badge of courage. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| It's like cauliflower ear. | ||
| Somebody asked me what the fuck was wrong with my ear. | ||
| I'm like, what's wrong with yours, punk? | ||
| That's man shit, son. | ||
| One time I had a serious black... | ||
| I actually had two black eyes, and I was on Fear Factor. | ||
| And I was like, look, just let me do the show with black eyes. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| They brought in... | ||
| Because I didn't wear makeup on Fear Factor, but during that I did. | ||
| They brought in a makeup artist, a spray person. | ||
| They sprayed under my eye. | ||
| So crazy back then how people don't want to be authentic. | ||
| They're like, we can't have this be real. | ||
| We need to have it look a certain way the way we think of him to look. | ||
| It's like, how about you? | ||
| I look like me. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's like all that shit about the camera puts on 10 pounds or whatever. | ||
| Motherfucker, it makes you look exactly like you are. | ||
| You're not happy with that. | ||
| Don't be so fat. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| I've never understood that camera puts on 10 pounds thing. | ||
| I look in the mirror. | ||
| I look at myself on camera. | ||
| It's exactly the same. | ||
| Real similar. | ||
| It's the same! | ||
| How does a camera put on 10 pounds? | ||
| Where is that coming from? | ||
| So good. | ||
| Is that like the old cameras? | ||
| Maybe so. | ||
| Maybe like them old... | ||
| With some kind of flex lens? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Like a circus lens? | ||
| Maybe it was like before they had HD. It's fucking funny, man. | ||
| You know, when I was on news radio... | ||
| Maybe it's just people are pussies and they'll make any excuse to not have it be real. | ||
| It's not my fault. | ||
| I don't need to be accountable for that. | ||
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It's the camera. | |
| Well, I'm in really good shape. | ||
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It's just this camera makes me have a gut. | |
| When I was on news radio, it was right when they were introducing HD cameras. | ||
| And I'll tell you, man, actresses were shit in their pants. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| Yeah, they'd have conversations in the makeup room, like, we're going to need a lot more of this once the HD cameras come. | ||
| But they were all scared. | ||
| Because you can have a girl that... | ||
| Those makeup people like to be scared anyway. | ||
| They like to create a drama. | ||
| It wasn't the makeup people, it was the actresses. | ||
| Those are of sound mind. | ||
| They're all stable women. | ||
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Well, they knew that they looked better on TV than they did in real life. | |
| You look at David Caruso and... | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| That poor bastard. | ||
| Or in real life, it's like, holy fuck. | ||
| In real life, he looks like a zombie. | ||
| Dude, and 106. Yeah, at least 106. 106 with a good diet. | ||
| Some real Crypt Keeper shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he swings kettlebells. | ||
| Does he? | ||
| No. | ||
| That guy's like, is he a smoker? | ||
| Is that what's going on? | ||
| He looks like he must be, but he's also redheaded. | ||
| He's got that Bill Burr shit. | ||
| But Bill Burr looks great. | ||
| He looks really good. | ||
| He looks healthy as fuck. | ||
| He's got the funniest thing, too, about faceless. | ||
| Does he? | ||
| He's like, I'd rather look like a 40-year-old guy than a 29-year-old lizard. | ||
| He's like, It's clear they don't have that shit worked out. | ||
| What are you doing pulling your face straight like that? | ||
| That is weird, man. | ||
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He's awesome. | |
| There's this lady at my daughter's gymnastics class who's got monster face. | ||
| I call it monster face. | ||
| When those poor ladies, they do their lips, and then they shoot rubber into their face to fucking fill it up, and then they pull that bitch back, and then she's monster face. | ||
| Like, you look at her, you go, oh, Jesus. | ||
| But meanwhile, she's right next to a 70-year-old lady who looks fine. | ||
| You look at her, you go, hello, how you doing? | ||
| You don't get weirded out at all. | ||
| You're just looking at an older woman. | ||
| That ageism is a weird thing, and the self-talk that happens around it that people do is like, it's a fucking trip, like what people run from in that way. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Well, it just feels like... | ||
| But then they don't do the shit that would really do it. | ||
| It's like, don't you want to move well all the time? | ||
| Don't you want to fucking, like, be able-bodied? | ||
| No, no, no, but I could get some surgery to do something. | ||
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Like, fuck. | |
| Well, they just want to look good. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, there's some people that look good until their face moves. | ||
| Like, they can convince themselves they look good because they're, like, looking in the mirror and then everything looks okay as long as they stay still. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But once they start talking and you go, hey, your fucking cheeks aren't moving, man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, one time we were in the green room. | ||
| No facial expression. | ||
| We were in the green room of the improv in Brea and this... | ||
| Remember when Joan Rivers and her daughter had like a reality show? | ||
| And I was high as fuck. | ||
| And you're wondering, who do I want to fuck more, Joan or her daughter? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's how... | ||
| Neither one of those... | ||
| We're an option. | ||
| But I was looking. | ||
| We were really, really high. | ||
| It was me and Diaz. | ||
| And you know how that goes. | ||
| So we're in the green room and we're looking up at the screen. | ||
| And I couldn't. | ||
| I was freaked out. | ||
| I mean, just like nervous and terrified at Joan Rivers' face. | ||
| Because her face was like a rubber kabuki mask. | ||
| It's absolutely as if when you're looking and you're like, it looks like somebody's about to explode. | ||
| It looks like there's an impending something happening and you're not sure what. | ||
| But it's like it's so fucking not right. | ||
| Well, it just looked frozen. | ||
| It looked like frozen and rubber and weird. | ||
| She died getting operated on, right? | ||
| It wasn't plastic surgery, though. | ||
| I don't think it was plastic surgery. | ||
| Isn't that how Kanye's mom died, too? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Yes, I think she died from plastic surgery. | ||
| Anesthesia going under. | ||
| That going under is no bullshit. | ||
| It's weird that we live in such an advanced society, but they're like, just putting people to sleep, we might kill them. | ||
| Don't know. | ||
| It's so rare, though. | ||
| You have to be at poor health to go on. | ||
| I've gone under a bunch of times for surgeries. | ||
| I mean, I've had both my knees done, one knee twice, my nose done. | ||
| I've had a lot of shit fixed. | ||
| And they just put you under in their front. | ||
| Like, you never hear of a fighter dying when they go under. | ||
| It's usually older people or people that are in poor health. | ||
| I think I've been under four times, maybe. | ||
| What have you had done? | ||
| My knee, my shoulder three times. | ||
| Damn, you had your shoulder done three times? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I was an overachiever. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| They scoped it first, and then I ripped that one out, and then they did another one where it was a real aggressive thing. | ||
| They changed my anatomy around in that shoulder. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Your bicep head goes in, and they cut off the bone where it goes in on one of them, and they moved it and screwed it in underneath to be like a physical block so it wouldn't dislocate, which then you fast-forward. | ||
| 15 years later, and I was having a lot of AC joint hurt, like trouble, and there's just rubbing together. | ||
| And so this other doctor, he goes in and he's going to clean that up and says, it'll be great, awesome. | ||
| He looks at my x-rays, he goes, oh my God, who did this to you? | ||
| And I go, that's not very encouraging. | ||
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What do you mean? | |
| Fuck. | ||
| He goes... | ||
| Just, nobody ethically would change your anatomy like that. | ||
| And I was like, it was a cutting-edge shit at Michigan State University fucking 15 years ago. | ||
| Like, I don't know. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So anyway, but it's been solid since then. | ||
| That's my good shoulder. | ||
| So did that guy do it again? | ||
| That guy just cleaned up my AC joint. | ||
| That was not for surgery. | ||
| So when they clean it up, what do they do? | ||
| My friend Melissa from the UFC, she just had her shoulder done. | ||
| I think they shave it. | ||
| They put some kind of fake synovial fluid maybe back in it. | ||
| They try to influence cartilage growth, perhaps. | ||
| Well, hers was bone growth. | ||
| When you have any sort of an issue, like a lot of arthritis and rubbing, you see that a lot in spinal stenosis. | ||
| Around the spinal columns, you'll see growth on the edges of the spine. | ||
| Of the discs? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, not on the discs itself, but on the hard pieces, the spine. | ||
| You know, the disc is the stuff in between the spine. | ||
| And the, what do they call those things? | ||
| What's the spine bone? | ||
| What's a bone? | ||
| I think we did. | ||
| Spine bone. | ||
| Spine bone. | ||
| Yeah, I know just what you're talking about. | ||
| Well, the disc is your backbone. | ||
| The disc is in between that there's a semi-permeable, like, pumice-crete type of deal. | ||
| Yeah, that's the mushy stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's the stuff that cushions everything. | ||
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Right. | |
| And the bone around it. | ||
| Like a shock absorber. | ||
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Vertebrae, thank you very much Jamie. | |
| I knew there was a word. | ||
| How do I want to remember that? | ||
| Seems like that's in my lexicon. | ||
| I've had a rough day. | ||
| I've been running around. | ||
| But the edges, as your discs get smaller, if you're losing disc degeneration, and by the way, a lot of doctors will start to tell people that it's disc degeneration disease, and they'll let you know that, oh, it's a disease. | ||
| You don't have to worry about it. | ||
| It's use. | ||
| It's use. | ||
| It's not a disease, for the most part. | ||
| Most of the time when they say that, what it is is you've been abusing your body. | ||
| Because I've talked to a bunch of fighters, and they'll say, well, it's dis-generation. | ||
| Dis-degeneration disease. | ||
| I'm like, oh, well, it has nothing to do with you fucking head-butting dudes 100 miles an hour, like shooting for doubles, and running into people's hips. | ||
| Getting suplexed over and over again, or keto-tossed, or whatever. | ||
| This isn't a disease. | ||
| This isn't herpes. | ||
| Concussion. | ||
| Yeah, you're beating the fuck out of your body, man. | ||
| But the edges, they develop like bone spurs. | ||
| Like the bone tries to grow and almost like your bone is trying to fill in the area where it knows the spinal disc isn't there anymore. | ||
| It's weird how your body fights for homeostasis no matter what, like going into that. | ||
| That's like they said in my shoulder, there's enough scar tissue in this one. | ||
| That's probably what keeps it from getting dislocated. | ||
| The scar tissue keeps it in place? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I got to get on that. | ||
| On that stem cell shit. | ||
| Dude, stem cell shit is the best. | ||
| Vegas, you still gotta give me that guy's info. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, that's Dr. Davidson from the UFC is the one who connected me with the people. | ||
| But, dude, they've done a bunch of people now. | ||
| A bunch of UFC people have staggering results. | ||
| Yeah, you were saying Roy Nelson did his knee? | ||
| Cormier. | ||
| Daniel Cormier did his knee. | ||
| Stem cells. | ||
| If I were those guys at AKA, I would just do every joint. | ||
| Even if there was no problem, I'd be like, if he were the coach, he'd be like, just get in there and just do it. | ||
| Well, that's what Ludwig did. | ||
| Preemptively? | ||
| Yep, preemptively. | ||
| Got both his shoulders done. | ||
| I think he did his hips, too. | ||
| Dude, I can't imagine the... | ||
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Fuck. | |
| He's such a savage. | ||
| And to hold mitts for somebody like that, like him, like Winklejohn should do that, too. | ||
| Like, you beat the fuck out of yourself. | ||
| Brandon Gibson, all those guys. | ||
| You're a professional mitt holder. | ||
| You need to do that. | ||
| That's worse than fighting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For your shoulder joint health? | ||
| That's horrible for you. | ||
| Especially if you're holding mitts for some fucking gorilla. | ||
| For fucking Jon Jones? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Well, Jon Jones hits hard, but like, imagine like Travis Brown. | ||
| Or Travis Brown. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alistair Overeem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially Alistair when he was on the sauce. | ||
| I don't know if that's true or not. | ||
| I believe it's true. | ||
| I think it was proven. | ||
| I believe it was proven. | ||
| I don't know what you're saying. | ||
| He was suspended. | ||
| All that shit is so dumb. | ||
| That drug shit. | ||
| Fucking stupid. | ||
| You know, when I was in high school, I had to write a paper, and the paper that I wrote was that you should legalize every drug. | ||
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That sounds like the kind of thing a 14-year-old would write. | |
| I was all hyped up on NWA and gangster rap, and I was like, how in the fuck did Eazy-E get an Uzi? | ||
| He doesn't look like anybody that should have an Uzi. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It's because he can sell, and the black market is the only thing that makes crime. | ||
| I'm like, why do we have a black, if they want to, but that's the thing, is like, and not everybody's all fucking excited about marijuana being, you're all twats. | ||
| Everybody's a fucking pussy. | ||
| You're out there, like, ooh, look at Wiccan Smoker joint on CNN. Well, guess what? | ||
| You still got fucking 500,000 guys that are locked up. | ||
| You should be protesting that every fucking day if pot's really actually legal. | ||
| Like, in those states, they should just be letting dudes out by the fucking dozens every minute. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Can you imagine if you were in Colorado and you're in jail for selling weed. | ||
| I'd be like, what in the fuck? | ||
| What in the fuck? | ||
| And then how many of those guys are in there? | ||
| And then they fucking catch a real case in there because now you've got a fighter. | ||
| You're in a riot. | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| That does happen. | ||
| That does happen. | ||
| All that shit should be legal. | ||
| The only thing that... | ||
| And people are like, well, if they just tax it, everybody's like, if they just tax it, the government... | ||
| But that's on the idea that the government gives a fuck. | ||
| The government... | ||
| I mean, it makes more money. | ||
| It's not like if I can tax you, who wants to buy weed. | ||
| I want to have... | ||
| How do I tax everybody? | ||
| I make them all scared and then I imprison guys for this illegality. | ||
| And then I can get the public dollars because, look it, isn't it scary that we got these black and Mexican guys that are selling dope and we need to put them somewhere. | ||
| Well, that's a business. | ||
| That's a huge business, the whole business, and that's why... | ||
| Well, that's a business, though. | ||
| There's another business. | ||
| The other business is legal marijuana, where you make more money from tax dollars from legal marijuana in Colorado. | ||
| Yes, they do. | ||
| And this year in Colorado, they made more money from tax dollars from marijuana than they did from alcohol for the first time ever. | ||
| Okay, but what I would love to see... | ||
| Because they tax it very high. | ||
| What I want to see, then, is those numbers... | ||
| Versus all the public and federal money that comes from taxpayers that goes into law enforcement, whether it's at sheriff, drug enforcement levels, DEA levels, FBI, like all the different funding, which is fucking huge. | ||
| And all the prison shit. | ||
| So all the public tax dollars. | ||
| Show me that the taxing on pot is more than that, and I would agree. | ||
| Well, it's not more than that now. | ||
| I bet it's dwarfed. | ||
| I bet you're right. | ||
| I bet you're right. | ||
| Well, drug enforcement... | ||
| Is weird because you're looking at a blanket, you know, you're looking at pills, you're looking at heroin, coke, the marijuana drug enforcement. | ||
| Legal, legal. | ||
| Make it all legal. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, make it all legal and at least you're going to get taxes from stuff that's already being sold anyway. | ||
| And then you can use that money for education, use that money for treatment. | ||
| But the people that are in law enforcement, the problem with the law enforcement when it comes to drugs is like, they're fucking lobbying to keep shit illegal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They don't want it legal. | ||
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They don't. | |
| And then when you've got, I believe it's the biggest union in the, maybe in the world, but in the country, is the correctional. | ||
| Prison guards. | ||
| Yeah, so you've got prison guards. | ||
| I don't know if it's the biggest, but they lobby, they're one of the biggest contributors for drug legals, keeping drugs illegal. | ||
| They lobby hard to make sure that drugs stay illegal because it keeps them in jobs. | ||
| But you know what, man? | ||
| You just got to figure out alternatives for those people. | ||
| Do you think people that are prison guards want to be fucking prison guards? | ||
| If you could find some sort of a positive job. | ||
| If you could, but I bet a lot of those guys are like, I'm in power over some fucking bad motherfuckers and they like that. | ||
| Their consciousness is fucked up because they're like, well, if you got that job, you're a prisoner. | ||
| I mean you are a prisoner all day. | ||
| I mean you've just chosen to be a prisoner and you think you're free. | ||
| You're fucked. | ||
| You're a head guy. | ||
| You just don't know and so it's a guy that's kind of got that kind of consciousness to where he doesn't even know he's fucked. | ||
| Can you imagine the fucking feeling that you must get like they shut those gates behind you and you're working with all those people that are in there for life and you got to go home at night and then you're gonna go home at night and you can quit and leave anytime you want but your work environment is filled with all these people that are just doomed. | ||
| They're doomed and occasionally they arrive. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I watched that Freeway Rick Ross documentary last week and I thought, man, that is crazy. | ||
| You're like, you know, more money than anything. | ||
| You're living a life that is like if Bill Gates had an exciting life, whatever you wanted to do, any vacations, anything, and then you go into nothing, a prison, and then you come out and he's just printing t-shirts or whatever he's trying to do and trying to stay straight. | ||
| He's just trying to hustle. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| Yeah, he does like speeches and does a bunch of different shit, but he's just trying to hustle and stay straight. | ||
| It's hard, man. | ||
| It's also crazy because he went in and he was making all that money, millions and millions of dollars, and he couldn't read. | ||
| Millions a day. | ||
| Yeah, millions a day, couldn't read. | ||
| And then figured out how to read, then figured out how to fucking read law books, and then figured out that his case was bullshit, and then got it overturned. | ||
| That's the crazy part. | ||
| He was under the three strikes law. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they tried to try him for... | ||
| He said it was an ongoing criminal enterprise, not a... | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| It was one robbing spree. | ||
| That it wasn't secular events, is how he did it. | ||
| So they were saying, Ohio's a separate thing. | ||
| And he's like, no, because I was on a continuous criminal spree. | ||
| My whole life was a continuous criminal spree. | ||
| Well, the three-strike thing, they tried him for two things at the same time. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And it's not how it works. | ||
| You're supposed to go away, and then they catch you again, and you go away, and then they catch you again at three strikes. | ||
| But they tried to do it for him with more than one different thing tagged onto one arrest. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's not how it works. | ||
| Oh, and then they planted a bunch of shit on him. | ||
| They just wanted to put him in jail to win. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| It's weird that they let him out. | ||
| It's weird that that worked. | ||
| Well, it worked because he was right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the problem, I've been talking about this a lot, I think the problem with law enforcement in general, like one of the big problems is that people want to win. | ||
| When people get in a game, whether it's jujitsu or it's fucking ping pong, you want to win. | ||
| Or like the drug testers, like they're not looking, they're not wanting you to have, I mean, that's not true, some guys probably are, but they're not looking for you to have a free test. | ||
| They're like, I want to catch this dirty guy and they see all the guys as dirty. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| But, I mean, that's the hustle, right? | ||
| That's what they're trying to do. | ||
| They're trying to catch people cheating. | ||
| So they, oh, look at this motherfucker. | ||
| Like, every day, you're playing a game, and the game is catch the guy with the rubber dick. | ||
| Do you think they should... | ||
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Oh. | |
| Fake piss. | ||
| The whizenator. | ||
| I got excited. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Jeff Monson made that famous. | ||
| Did he? | ||
| Yeah, he was the first guy that I'd heard about a Wizenator with. | ||
| But those guys are fucking... | ||
| I think all that shit should be legal too. | ||
| Like when they do gene splicing or whatever the fuck is next that they're going to do, like they're going to have myostatin inhibitors and all that kind of stuff. | ||
| You're going to have a thing if all these fucking useless fucking nerds that are regulating this shit are like... | ||
| We want to have clean athletes. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you're going to have a crowd of fucking people at the MGM that are all in way better shape and condition than the actual fucking fighters that are competing. | ||
| That is for sure what the future is. | ||
| When that does happen, we're going to have to have a totally new conversation. | ||
| Because I think right now what's going on is they're just trying to prevent the first drips of water that are coming out of that dam. | ||
| And they're putting their fingers in it. | ||
| It's like stopping the rise of the machines. | ||
| Elon Musk? | ||
| You're not going to do it. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| What are you going to do in New Mexico? | ||
| I'll just roll, baby. | ||
| I'll roll it with you. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'll ride it out. | ||
| How do we do this? | ||
| I'll survive. | ||
| Well, tell me how we do this. | ||
| Let's plan this out. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't plan. | ||
|
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Let's get a ranch. | |
| I can't plan. | ||
| Let's get a ranch. | ||
| We've been talking about that for a decade. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
|
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We both have money. | |
| What state? | ||
| You're making some banks now. | ||
| I see you in the movies. | ||
|
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Money, dog! | |
| Every time I fucking watch an action movie, I see you get shot. | ||
| I'm in Sicario right now. | ||
| Are you in that one? | ||
| Yelling in Spanish at motherfuckers. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| I heard that movie's dope. | ||
| They're like, can anybody speak Spanish? | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| Right here, bitch. | ||
| Well, I looked around, there's four of us, and I looked around, and there's fucking a bunch of Chicano dudes and me. | ||
| And I was like, well, if one of these guys for sure... | ||
| And none of them raised their hand, I'm like, boom! | ||
| And then I got on my text to fucking the guy that coaches jiu-jitsu for us at 10th Planet in Santa Fe, and I'm like, hey, Ruben, how do I say... | ||
| Get on one of those fucking... | ||
| Through text? | ||
| Through text, he fucking... | ||
| I'm like, dude, you got to write it out phonetically. | ||
| I don't need to know the real... | ||
| This has got to sound right. | ||
| You just got to get one of those Rosetta Stones. | ||
| And then I just practiced over and over. | ||
| It was in the moment. | ||
| It was like going to film 20 minutes later. | ||
|
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Oh, shit. | |
| It was like right then. | ||
| They're like, hey, we want to add this scene in. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| It's a little known secret. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Don't tell anybody. | ||
| Too late. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| That's tape. | ||
| I just make shit happen. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I hear you, dude. | ||
| That's what I say. | ||
| I just freestyle that shit. | ||
| Like, however it's going to work. | ||
| It's like the whole movie thing and going, how did this happen? | ||
| I'm like, fuck. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And I try to ask you. | ||
| I'm like, do I need an agent? | ||
| And you're like, fuck, I don't know. | ||
| And you know, one of the best things that I've heard about it is... | ||
| Fucking Pauly Shore. | ||
| Pauly Shore gave you advice? | ||
| No, he was giving advice to three other little actors, like Benji and a couple people that were comics at the store. | ||
| And he goes, you know, the truth is... | ||
| Nobody knows how to do it, and I just took that and I go, okay, fuck everybody. | ||
| Everybody that tells you how to do it, they've never done it. | ||
| All those people are coaching acting, or they're doing whatever, and I'm like, I'm just gonna run with this and fucking do it, and I'll show up, and I see the guys that are there, and I'm like, well, I don't know that I'm great, but I know I'm better than that guy. | ||
| But you also have an unusual look. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I've been told that a lot, and now it's paying off. | ||
| But, you know, you're a big giant dude. | ||
| You got a crazy beard. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You know, you know how to fight. | ||
| I give all these skills. | ||
| Handsome as fuck. | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| Intelligent. | ||
| Speak well. | ||
| Green-eyed devil. | ||
| You look great. | ||
| You got a lot going on. | ||
| Well, all that came, and then I just kept... | ||
| You know, I always used to live, like, thinking the other shoe's about to drop, right? | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| For a long time, and I thought, it's just not going to end up good. | ||
| And because, like, I didn't correlate that my actions were getting my results in a lot of ways, you know? | ||
| And... | ||
| And I think, you know, a big part of that is just being accountable for your life. | ||
| Like, a guy told me, he says, you know why you're all fucked up? | ||
| And I go, why? | ||
| And he's like, because you think you're a good guy. | ||
| Because you base yourself on your intentions. | ||
| And the whole world is reacting to your actions. | ||
| And I was like... | ||
| Well, don't they know that I intended... | ||
| If you step on a dude's shoes and you didn't mean to, his shoes are still fucking dirty. | ||
| And so just bringing all that shit into my everyday... | ||
| I think the whole thing more and more that I think about is heightening awareness. | ||
| And the more you are aware, the less dumb you are. | ||
| And the less dumb you are, the better off you do. | ||
| That's a really good point. | ||
| But you can train yourself to be more aware. | ||
| Yes, you can. | ||
| And it happens all the time. | ||
| And you don't just get it, but you get layers of it, you know? | ||
| Yeah, layers. | ||
| That's a great way of putting it. | ||
| The whole way you just said it is a great way of putting it. | ||
| I think a lot of people think that they're a good person. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But they'll do douchey shit, or they try to get away with something because they're hustling, they're broke, and they'll maybe fuck someone over. | ||
| Dude, it's that constant self-reflection. | ||
| It's that constant self-reflection. | ||
| And people are like, well, how are you successful or whatever? | ||
| And I'm like... | ||
| Because I'm a loser. | ||
| I remember talking with you and you're like, I always felt like a loser too. | ||
| Like when we would go on the road and shit. | ||
| Because I'm living a life that's different than other people living. | ||
| I'm not a 9 to 5 guy or whatever the thing is. | ||
| And so you're living this life that's out of the norm. | ||
| And thank God you get to be an uncommon man in that way. | ||
| The other way would have killed me. | ||
| And you. | ||
| And Eddie. | ||
| And Ari. | ||
| And you know what I mean? | ||
| And Duncan. | ||
| And you look at all that and I go, that's no fucking mistake that we're all doing well, happy, positive. | ||
| And I go, man, I owe everything just to the people that I've chosen to have around me. | ||
| That's the people that I've been graced about in my life. | ||
| Huge, huge part of your life. | ||
| Huge, man. | ||
| And you also, you get power when your friends are doing well. | ||
| Like, when I see you in movies, I get power. | ||
| You know, when I see you in John Wick, I get power from that. | ||
| I'm just like, ooh. | ||
| It's like, how do you stay inspired? | ||
| You stay around inspirational people. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| And that's the thing for me. | ||
| And so, like, whether it's the gym I work out at or, you know, what I'm putting in my body or anything, like, who I'm living with. | ||
| All that shit matters, man. | ||
| Where I'm living, I used to live in Hancock Park, and then I moved to Venice, and I'm like, all my people are in Venice, and I want to be near the ocean, and that's a different vibe down there. | ||
| It's a different vibe. | ||
| It's very crowded, but it's a great vibe. | ||
| It's so nice, man. | ||
| It's more relaxing. | ||
| It's like being in New Mexico for me. | ||
| I'll jam next to each other, though. | ||
| I don't like the crowdedness of Venice. | ||
| That's why I could never look at New York. | ||
| I'm only at Deuce Gym, the place where I work out at and train a lot. | ||
| I know where that is. | ||
| Outdoors, right across from Whole Foods. | ||
| That's a great spot. | ||
| I'm just there, posted up. | ||
| We do podcasts there, fuck around. | ||
| Like, it's rad. | ||
| It's fucking nice. | ||
| And then everything's walking distance. | ||
| Is that your friend's gym? | ||
| Do you know people? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so you live up near there? | ||
| Yeah, just like, I don't know, five minutes away. | ||
| It's a nice area. | ||
| There's a lot of good restaurants. | ||
| There's a lot of great stuff. | ||
| Huge, man. | ||
| If you had a place to park your car... | ||
| You know what, though? | ||
| Parking's better than Hollywood. | ||
| It beats the shit out of parking in Hollywood. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But Hollywood is so ridiculous. | ||
| And you can walk. | ||
| Like, my favorite restaurants are like Clutch on Lincoln and then Oscars down on Rose. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And those are just both five minutes from anywhere. | ||
| Like, it's easy. | ||
| Or there's a great Italian restaurant in Washington, too. | ||
| There's a lot of good places down there, like you said. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's always valet. | ||
| You know, fuck, there's always valet if you're... | ||
| I hate valet. | ||
| If you're fucking... | ||
| You just gotta drive the right car. | ||
| You can't drive your car. | ||
| I have a pickup truck. | ||
| I'm a goddamn American over here. | ||
| I don't have Joe Rogan money yet. | ||
| I didn't have my... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Who does? | ||
| This is it, too, man. | ||
| So after Breaking Bad, I got some money off of that. | ||
| And then at that same time, a friend of mine from New Mexico... | ||
| This guy, Rico Taylor, he calls and he goes, hey dude, I'm... | ||
| And he was best friends with my friend Marcos, who started Nuevo with me. | ||
| And so Nuevo... | ||
| So, like, everybody I fuck with is all people that I love and that I've been tied into for a long time, and everybody's doing good. | ||
| It's rad. | ||
| But he does pick up a Lambo. | ||
| And he goes, hey, is it realistic that I put $60,000 down on it and I'll pay, I don't know if it's $4,000 a month or something, and does that sound reasonable to you? | ||
| And I'm like, fuck no, it doesn't sound reasonable. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| $4,000 is an apartment. | ||
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Like, my house isn't, like, what the fuck? | |
| That's a mortgage. | ||
| That's an apartment in New York City that's awesome. | ||
| But I go, you're 33 years old, and you can fucking do that and be, fuck yes, do that. | ||
| Live an unreasonable life. | ||
| Do that thing. | ||
| So when I got that money, what happened with that was it seeded these bars, Concrete Cowboy. | ||
|
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And so we got one in Austin. | ||
| We got one in Houston. | ||
| In five weeks, we'll open. | ||
| We got one in Dallas. | ||
| And it's paid back like six times what we invested. | ||
| But I gave that money going, I don't have any more money in the world. | ||
| And fuck it. | ||
| I've been broke before. | ||
| Here's my money. | ||
| And fuck it. | ||
| I knew that Rico would take care of it. | ||
| I knew he'd be a good steward of it. | ||
| And if it didn't work, it didn't work and whatever. | ||
| And like that being free about it and like I did a couple things like it made me go the money is not you it doesn't matter like that's a replaceable commodity that's nothing and and also it's like I've been rolling the dice my whole life so let's roll the dice and then we fucking just started taking off with that then three years later motherfuckers driving a Lamborghini. | ||
| It's fucking rad, dude. | ||
| It's rad. | ||
| Lamborghinis are shitboxes, though. | ||
| Tell him those things are going to break down. | ||
| You know what he says? | ||
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What? | |
| He's like, you just roll it for two years, and then you can sell it back. | ||
| You can make money on it. | ||
| I said, then what? | ||
| He says, well, then you're just in the flip. | ||
| Then you got a Lamborghini every year. | ||
| You get a new one every year. | ||
| I'm like, I don't want to do that. | ||
| What I want to do is I want to get one of those Icon 4x4s. | ||
| If I'm going to spend $200,000, it's not even that. | ||
| I had this 65 Riviera that I want to do. | ||
| Have you seen the Broncos? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I called that dude before he was on your show. | ||
| Johnson Ward? | ||
| Yeah, and I emailed him, and then he called me back. | ||
| I go, hey, Rad! | ||
| I'm like, this guy's calling me. | ||
| And he must have thought I had some Jay Leno money or something. | ||
| He's like, oh yeah, I used to work with guys in your field or whatever. | ||
| I'm like, what is my field? | ||
| Like, I don't even really know. | ||
| And he's like, well, an actor. | ||
| And I go, oh, okay, cool. | ||
| And he's like, yeah, to redo your rivi, it'd be like, you know, around $400. | ||
| I'm like, I'm like, you're talking the wrong fucking guy. | ||
| $400,000. | ||
| I'm like, that is crazy. | ||
| What did he want to do to it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Ground up, like, you know, the whole digitized and redo the whole undercarriage and the whole brake system and the steering, you know. | ||
| $400,000. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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But anyway, if you guys can come in under $400, holler at your boy. | |
| Tate Fletcher on Instagram. | ||
| Because those Broncos are two. | ||
| He does those Broncos, and they're done to the tits. | ||
| He's got those, though, and then he's got the Reformers. | ||
| They're different price points, and I think if you bring your own box of hazards to him, he probably thinks about it a different way. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Well, he does a bunch of different kinds of cars, but one of the coolest ones he does is those old Toyota Land Cruisers. | ||
| He takes those FJ-62s. | ||
| They don't even look that cool. | ||
| And then he puts a Corvette engine in them. | ||
| He puts a modern LS Corvette engine in them and fucking completely redoes the suspension. | ||
|
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He's got a big power wagon or something, too. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You see that one, that white one? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like that with all that billeted fucking steel. | ||
| That one's stupid expensive. | ||
|
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Dude. | |
| That one's way into the twos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like high twos. | ||
| There's a used one I saw on YouTube or on eBay or somewhere. | ||
|
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Oh, yeah? | |
| It was like 140 they were asking for. | ||
|
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One of his? | |
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's a bargain. | ||
| But a diesel fucking... | ||
| Diesel? | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| A diesel power wagon? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See, he does amazing stuff. | ||
| That guy is a real craftsman. | ||
| He's a real engineer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And an astute eye. | ||
| Well, I'll take you to his place if you want to go and check it out. | ||
| I called him. | ||
| I was like, when are you there? | ||
| He's like, oh, next week or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Let's go together. | ||
| Come with me. | ||
| I'll go with you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because he's doing a Blazer now. | ||
| A K5 Blazer. | ||
| Those old Chevy Blazers. | ||
| I love those. | ||
| If he's going to do it, it's going to be insane. | ||
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Fuck yeah. | |
| He's going to do an icon version of the Blazer, so he's going to completely update the suspension and all the components. | ||
| But yeah, man, his customers are just rich as fuck. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Those are the kind of people he does. | ||
| Well, it is the Jay Lunas of the world and all that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I heard him on your show, and he was like, yeah, Dana wanted one, but he didn't want to wait or whatever. | ||
| And I'm like, holy fuck. | ||
| Yeah, it takes over a year. | ||
| I mean, he has full-time employees working on your car for over a year. | ||
| I mean, that's why it costs $200,000. | ||
| But when you go there, you get it. | ||
| Like, when I went to his shop, I'm like, oh, I get it. | ||
| He's like, yeah, you could cut a lot of corners here and there and have it look the same and cost $100,000. | ||
| But this fucking guy is doing everything. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What is the best bolt that I can get? | ||
| What's the best brakes? | ||
| He's standing by his stuff. | ||
| It's not like you're driving off the thing at West Coast Customs or something like that or wherever it is. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, see, and if you've got a problem, come on back. | ||
| That's a dude that cares about every piece that comes through. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Not only does he just care, that guy, if he doesn't care, he won't build it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He won't build it. | ||
| That's a beautiful thing. | ||
| If he's not excited about it. | ||
| When he said no to Dana, it's like, how huge is saying no? | ||
| Well, if Dana wants one of those Broncos, all he has to do is wait around and say, contact me whenever you got one for sale. | ||
| Bronco number one just went up for sale. | ||
| He could throw money in an account and go, here, I'll prepay for it. | ||
| Just holler in a year when it's done or whatever. | ||
| You're still going to want it in a year. | ||
| Impatient. | ||
| You're still going to want it. | ||
| Next year, he'll be like, can I get one now? | ||
| Well, you could have if you would have given me money last year. | ||
| But now it's another year. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it's more now. | ||
| I think he's in a 2018. That's the thing about getting better at anything. | ||
| It's like, there's going to come a day when you want to get better. | ||
| Fucking do it now. | ||
| Like, that was one of the best, like, one of the, so many, coaching, like, sports has given me so much, but, um, Mike Vandarsdale one time, he would do, like, guided meditation sometimes after practice, and so there's fucking 40 sweaty guys laying on the mats. | ||
| He'd turn the lights off in the gym at Jackson's, and, uh, And he'd go, hey, I know you guys, we did a lot of technical wrestling today, and you'd think, hey, I'm young, there's a lot of time, and I'll be able to get this, I'll put this together, I'll piece it together, I got a little better today. | ||
| He says, I just want you to consider that there's a guy that's demanding to be better right now. | ||
| There's a guy that knows he needs to get it today, and you're going to have to fight that guy. | ||
| So he's like, fucking turn your fucking learning curve up. | ||
| He would really speak into that kind of a voice of going, it's not just, ooh, when it happens, it happens. | ||
| It's like, demand that you get better now. | ||
| And that's a powerful way to look at stuff. | ||
| I think that's some wrestling mentality, man. | ||
| Those wrestlers are fucking, that's a different breed of guy. | ||
| They're like, I need to do this now. | ||
| Well, I think you have that with boxers, you have that with kickboxing, you have that with anybody who is just fanatical about improvement. | ||
| You have to have that insane, insane, just the drive to perfection and belief. | ||
| But you've got to be obsessed, man. | ||
| If you're not obsessed, you're not going to beat the guy who's obsessed. | ||
| I remember when I saw fucking Jon Jones when he first came down. | ||
| The first time I'd ever seen him was when... | ||
| I never knew anything about him until he beat up Stefan Bonner. | ||
| And I was live at that fight and I was like, holy fuck. | ||
| And he was just learning back then. | ||
| He didn't know. | ||
| And the throws... | ||
| I was like... | ||
| And Stefan's is maybe bigger than me. | ||
| He's fucking... | ||
| Not small. | ||
| He's good. | ||
| He's adept at everything. | ||
| And he's hitting them with elbows like they're jabs and knees and then throwing them like... | ||
| Anytime he'd get close to them, throw them. | ||
| And I was like, holy fuck. | ||
| And then... | ||
| I don't know, a month or two months later, he came to Jackson's, and he's there, and I'm like, I was like, hey, and I knew he wrestled. | ||
| I knew a bunch of tough wrestlers from New York, and I was like, where'd you learn Muay Thai, though? | ||
| Because Tom Watson, he'd just gotten back from a Dutch kickboxing camp, and dudes go to Thailand all the time, and there's all that, and And he goes, YouTube. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Like, dudes are dying and you're just like... | ||
| He's like, well, I look at it and I go, huh? | ||
| And then I believe. | ||
| And I'm like, holy fuck. | ||
| Like, no proper training. | ||
| He just watches shit on a video and he's like, don't watch The Matrix. | ||
| He's a special talent. | ||
| He is a special talent. | ||
| Well, I think one of the problems with John is that he absolutely has worked hard, but it has come way easier for him than it has for other people. | ||
| And I think part of that is because he grew up with two super athletes for brothers. | ||
| Can't even imagine. | ||
| You're just getting your ass kicked all the time in your house by giant super athletes. | ||
| Both his brothers are NFL fucking all-stars. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's got two super athletes. | ||
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Triple E's joke about it is hilarious. | |
| Whatever comes out of there, just Nike should sponsor. | ||
| They should sponsor John's mom. | ||
| They're all super athletes. | ||
| It's so true. | ||
| It's so true. | ||
| I mean, his level... | ||
| It's just like right out of the box. | ||
| They used to beat him up or whatever. | ||
| He's like, I'm not the toughest one in my family. | ||
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He's the least toughest. | |
| My brothers will beat my ass. | ||
| The younger brother. | ||
| His younger brother beats his ass. | ||
| Like his younger brother was talking about it like in an interview. | ||
| They asked him for TMZ. And he's like, I'll beat his ass right now. | ||
| I was like, what the fuck, man? | ||
| Remember when he watched... | ||
| When he choked Lyoto? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And I'm like, he doesn't even really know how to... | ||
| Like, I'm looking at that... | ||
| Or when he choked Bader. | ||
| I'm like, that's not... | ||
| Well, the Lyoto choke was a great choke because he knows how to push... | ||
| He knows how to cover the head. | ||
| He covers the head, but also he pushes... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The arm, you know, he pushes his palm back that way. | ||
| He's just learning. | ||
| He can seize that up. | ||
| He's learning in these moments. | ||
| He's so strong. | ||
| He's so strong. | ||
| I was like, like Bader, he looked great against Rashad. | ||
| He looked like a different athlete. | ||
| But he's a different athlete over the last four fights, Bader is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's been amazing. | ||
| But back then, when he just relied on wrestling, that John Jones fight, when do you see a sun-kissed kid wrestler pull half guard? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he just was like, I don't want to get in a bad position. | ||
| Maybe I can hang on to this. | ||
| Yeah, he was just overwhelmed, I think, too. | ||
| And I mean, that's the kind of power that he'd never felt. | ||
| And that's a huge... | ||
| Top of the food chain wrestler. | ||
| Which shows you how special John is. | ||
| Like, look at how good Glover Teixeira has looked against everybody else but John. | ||
| Well, Phil Davis did beat his ass, but Phil Davis beat his ass when he was fighting out of Connecticut, and his shoulder was all fucked up from the John Jones fight, and there's a lot of things wrong with his camp. | ||
| Glover head has the right mentality too as far as like a Stocking and getting really aggressive towards Jones and taking the center because John just takes the center of the ring and makes everybody run in A circle around him. | ||
| Yeah, but Glover was like that was one of the fascinating things about that fight Glover Glover was like loading up on shots and John was just aware of everything. | ||
| He's like, nope. | ||
| You can't fight him like that. | ||
| I think guys are looking like they want to put him away and it's like, it's not... | ||
| He sees too much to be able to do that. | ||
| You have to really... | ||
| How are you going to surprise him with one shot you're not? | ||
| It's incredible, though, when you think about that. | ||
| It's incredible that he has that sort of awareness with a relatively small amount of time striking. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I mean, when you consider his entire life, in fact, he's only 27, wins the title at 23, you know? | ||
| Yeah, the growth is... | ||
| Is it 22 or 23 that he won the title? | ||
| I think it was 22. I think so. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I hate what happened with him. | ||
| I hate to see a guy run into that classic cliche of partying and just messing up his life and then the hit and run. | ||
| It's like, God damn. | ||
| I think it's that youth stuff, you know? | ||
| And it's the thing that, like, I would just ask everybody to be gracious looking at it in that way because... | ||
| It's shit that maybe not everybody does, but a lot of young dudes, you go through that shit. | ||
| And he went through it at a little later time, maybe, but away public time. | ||
| I think that's the thing. | ||
| When you're so publicized like that, people are going to see all your warts. | ||
| And there's nobody that's walking without warts. | ||
| That's one of the problems with the way we view, I think, politics. | ||
| I think everything. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Before the internet, all those politicians are pretending that they didn't fuck kids or have affairs or do blow or whatever. | ||
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Fuck kids? | |
| Who can bust the fuck out kids? | ||
| That's Jared. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| When you live with transparency, we have a lot more transparency now. | ||
| There are no cover-ups of scandals, except 9-11. | ||
| What? | ||
| What about chemtrails? | ||
| Black helicopters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder if it's going to change politics in the future, if people are going to be forced to just be human. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| And grow and be a real person. | ||
| Because that speech-type style of delivery where they're not real, you know, that they do. | ||
| You know, ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| My fellow Americans, today is a day that will live in infamy. | ||
| There's a bunch of speech writers that have this template, and they want to put that template onto this. | ||
| It's also like the tone, the way they speak, it's all fake. | ||
| And I always wonder, like, are we going to come to a point in time where a guy gets on stage or a woman gets on stage as the president and speaks like a human and says, here's our situation. | ||
| This is where we're at. | ||
| We have a real problem with Syria. | ||
| I'll do that. | ||
| What you gonna run for president with Kanye West? | ||
| I think, well... | ||
| You and Kanye? | ||
| You could fuck Kanye up in debates. | ||
| Well, for sure. | ||
| You would run trains on that dude in debates. | ||
| A train... | ||
| He would try to talk over you. | ||
| It has a connotation that I would do with other guys. | ||
| You'd be like, I think I gave you your time, sir. | ||
| That'd be awesome. | ||
| I'm not Taylor Swift. | ||
| That would be awesome. | ||
| I feel like we take a lot for granted from old ideas. | ||
| It goes back to Pauly Shore going, nobody knows how to do it. | ||
| There's no path. | ||
| You make your own path, right? | ||
| That's the thing, because Pauly came from stand-up, and there's absolutely no path in stand-up. | ||
| Because at least with acting, you're going in for a role. | ||
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Why don't you fucking do it? | |
| I'm going to go onto some open mics. | ||
| Tate Fletcher, let's do it. | ||
| Bravo wants to do it again. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, he's down. | ||
| He wants to do it again. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| I had Eddie do it. | ||
| Remember those days? | ||
| Like eight times? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| Well, he was like, I had this joke that I thought was just awesome and it was about hookers and it just didn't come out. | ||
| You know the one. | ||
| Anyway, you look at all these old ideas that people have and even this whole stigma of, well, we have low attention span. | ||
| We're looking at it wherever my phone is. | ||
| We're looking at our phones all the time. | ||
| This and that. | ||
| But you look at that and you go, okay, if I were a corporate Media thing and I wanted to put out a fucking new entertainment thing and it's going to be anywhere from an hour to three hours long and it's just going to be guys talking. | ||
| Any corporation would be like, that's never going to catch on. | ||
| We need sound bites. | ||
| We need MTV news. | ||
| And you look at podcasts and you look at what they are and people are fucking more invested in that because it's real. | ||
| Because there's authentic voices to it. | ||
| Well, you know, that was one of the number one things that people said to me when I first started out. | ||
| Like, you can't do three-hour podcasts. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I go, why not? | ||
| And they said, well, because no one's going to listen in three hours. | ||
| I go, well, they don't have to. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You could just shut it off. | ||
| Like, I don't get it. | ||
| Like, Ari and me had, like, an argument about it. | ||
| As long as we're just having fun, who gives a fuck? | ||
| Ari was adamant about it. | ||
| You have to edit your podcast. | ||
| I'm just telling you right now. | ||
| You have to edit your podcast. | ||
| I go, why? | ||
| He goes, because it's too long. | ||
| I go, so what? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Why do I have to edit it? | ||
| And also, more importantly, is that a road that you've walked? | ||
| You have experience with yours being too long? | ||
| Well, everybody was comparing it to a show. | ||
| But nobody had any experience at all. | ||
| But they thought about it like a Comedy Central show, like an hour-long show. | ||
| Which then speaks to the thing about... | ||
| Old stuff. | ||
| Old ideas. | ||
| You've got to put away your old ideas if you want to be on the tip of the spear. | ||
| Well, also, don't you think... | ||
| I mean, my point of view was like, you and I, long before we ever did podcasts... | ||
| We always had these conversations before a show or after a show or hanging out. | ||
| We would talk for fucking hours. | ||
| Hours and hours. | ||
| And it seemed to me like a half hour into the conversation or 45 minutes, shit just started getting cooking. | ||
| And then an hour in later, we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! | ||
| And then the stories come out. | ||
| I remember this one time. | ||
| And those are the fun conversations for me. | ||
| And as you get to know each other, and then you make that into an audience, and then fuck, then they get to know you. | ||
| And then there's not all this... | ||
| These barriers between us all. | ||
| We all see our similarities and there's less dissension. | ||
| There's less animosity. | ||
| There's more understanding. | ||
| There's more graciousness and generosity. | ||
| And if we could get that way with everybody, if everybody felt that way instead of this corporate dominion, here's what CNN says that we need this to be. | ||
| You have direct feedback from other people about what you're doing. | ||
| And that feedback has been super valuable to me, man. | ||
| Even the negative stuff. | ||
| The negative stuff. | ||
| Nobody likes to hear criticisms about what they do, but if you consider it and find, well, is there any truth in that? | ||
| You could find out a lot about your style of interviewing people or talking to people, where you make mistakes. | ||
| No one's perfect. | ||
| You're not going to have a podcast that every word comes out perfect. | ||
| It's just not possible. | ||
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You're freeballing. | |
| Even when you do your ads. | ||
| Yeah, I freeball them. | ||
| How much do you stumble on? | ||
| All the time. | ||
| And it doesn't fucking matter. | ||
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But if somebody were directing you, they would say it matters. | |
| They would want you to do it again. | ||
| Do it again. | ||
| We're going to do it again. | ||
| I mean, sometimes I have to do it again. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But the reality is that this medium is new. | ||
| And no one had it before. | ||
| And this medium is like they gave these kids the controls. | ||
| Like they gave these kids the ability to broadcast a radio show. | ||
| And then they just did it their way. | ||
| And then they go, well, why don't I just start talking? | ||
| Let's just see what happens if we don't have commercials in the middle of it. | ||
| That becomes the thing. | ||
| As long as you're having fun as the person involved in it, who gives a fuck? | ||
| It doesn't matter what the result is in a way. | ||
| It's kind of like a fight or a comedy sketch. | ||
| When you go up and you try a joke, you're trying to figure it out and do it the best you can. | ||
| In real time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In real time with no script and no back. | ||
| And that's like being in competition. | ||
| It's like in competition is where greatness happens. | ||
| People figure shit out in a crazy way inside of that kind of pressure. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so if you step on stage, you've got an increased amount of... | ||
| It's not like you're in your living room in front of your mirror trying to say a fucking joke. | ||
| It means something different so you grow more in that competition. | ||
| The seconds mean more, the fucking moments mean more, all of that stuff. | ||
| And you don't get that if you're not willing to throw it out and expose yourself live. | ||
| And that's like putting this live on the internet. | ||
| That's a huge exposure. | ||
| And either you're an authentic person that's got something or you don't. | ||
| And it becomes... | ||
| I think it's super visible and I think it's super important We all get to that instead of all these masks that we wear all the time. | ||
| And to me, it doesn't matter. | ||
| It's like Ari saying that. | ||
| I know he feels differently now. | ||
| He laughs about it now. | ||
| So does that mean that you don't have a conversation that's more than 15 minutes with your friend? | ||
| It's not even a 15 minute thing. | ||
| It's just like he thought it had to be like an hour because a show is an hour. | ||
| But not a real hour, 42 minutes because we've got to have time for commercials. | ||
| Yeah, there's that, too. | ||
| Well, they also, most people do the commercials in the middle of shit, too. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, and I was like, man, I tried, you ever, you watch that show, uh, there's a new Fear of the Walking Dead? | ||
| It's the new Walking Dead? | ||
| No, I've seen an ad for it. | ||
|
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Dope. | |
| Really? | ||
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Dope. | |
| It's so good. | ||
| I thought The Walking Dead was gonna be shit, and I watched it, and I was like, and then I watched, like, six or ten episodes, and I was like, this is stupid. | ||
| It's the same episode over again, and then I watched another 20 episodes. | ||
| I just couldn't stop watching it no matter. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| Fear the Walking Dead is interesting because it's less special effects, you got less zombies, and it's better. | ||
| And the way it's shot, it's shot so well. | ||
| Whoever the director is, and whoever the cinematographer is, or the camera director, they're bad motherfuckers. | ||
| It's done so well. | ||
| It's done like a really good movie. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| And there's very few cut-the-shit moments in it. | ||
| It's really good, man. | ||
| Dude, this new show that's coming out? | ||
| Is Westworld, this HBO show with Anthony Hopkins. | ||
| Is that like the old movie with Yul Brynner? | ||
| Yeah, same shit. | ||
| Ed Harris and Anthony Hopkins are in it. | ||
| See, that's HBO. What I was going to say is, I watched that show the other day for the first time. | ||
| I usually watch it on Apple TV, whatever it is. | ||
| Apple TV? Yeah. | ||
| The other night I watched it on TV TV, and I sat through the fucking commercials. | ||
| I can't do that shit. | ||
| I can't do commercials. | ||
| It's ruthless. | ||
| I mean, and that's the thing, is TV is going away. | ||
| It's all going to go just digitized. | ||
| But why can't they have, like, whoever the fuck is paying for all those commercials, right? | ||
| Why don't they have, make a big deal out of it, say, uh, fucking... | ||
| Ram Trucks. | ||
| Ram Trucks is gonna sponsor the whole fucking episode, okay? | ||
| We're gonna have one commercial in the beginning. | ||
| Ram Trucks is proud to present Fear of the Walking Dead. | ||
| Just do it as a goddamn, just a test. | ||
| And make them dope. | ||
| Make a dope commercial. | ||
| Make everyone the Super Bowl commercial. | ||
| How about make one, yeah, make one where a guy in a fucking Ram truck is running over zombies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crushing their heads and fucking headed off into the distance. | ||
| See, this is the thing though. | ||
| Getting ahead while he's driving. | ||
| It's old ideas. | ||
| We need to start a production company. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| What else do we need to do? | ||
| We need to do something else. | ||
| Oh, we need to make a little 15-minute kids' commercials. | ||
| I guess we're going to need that, too, yeah. | ||
| Kids' short films. | ||
| We need a ranch in New Mexico. | ||
| New Mexico, that's the spot? | ||
| That's a good spot. | ||
| But Colorado's good, too. | ||
| Colorado's pretty beautiful. | ||
| And nice and game-rich and not all fucked up with pollution yet. | ||
| And weed's free and legal there. | ||
| And weed's free and legal, if that's your thing, you know? | ||
| That's my thing. | ||
| I like free and legal no matter what. | ||
| I don't have any use for weed, and I love it free and legal. | ||
| Yeah, I would like it if everything was free and legal. | ||
| We need less laws. | ||
| We do. | ||
| We need less laws, less people enforcing those laws, and more common sense. | ||
| More common sense, more freedom, more allowing people to do whatever the fuck they want, as long as it doesn't hurt people. | ||
| And then put restrictions on shit that does hurt people that's not in place right now. | ||
| Like, financial shit. | ||
| How about the fact that none of those guys that caused the financial crash of 2008 are in jail? | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
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How about that? | |
| That's the whole thing about being accountable. | ||
| I don't hang out with... | ||
| If you weren't accountable for your actions or responsible, I wouldn't fucking hang out with you. | ||
| It's the kind of thing that's like, why would I accept... | ||
| Less from my politicians or from anybody that is not going to be accountable. | ||
| It's like everybody's got to be held accountable. | ||
| And that's the way good shit works. | ||
| That's the way you improve. | ||
| If I start fucking Nuevo Cerveza and it's a shit product or we don't do due diligence in marketing or whatever the fucking thing is and it fails, nobody's fucking bailing me out and I could put all my money into that and go broke. | ||
| That could be the thing. | ||
| But GM, they have a failing business model and we're going to go ahead and write them a check for a trillion. | ||
| What the fuck is that? | ||
| Oh, you mean like the bailouts? | ||
| All that shit. | ||
| It's like, that doesn't make any sense. | ||
| All that too-big-to-fail shit, shit shouldn't be too big to fail. | ||
| Well, they did pay back all those loans, though, and they are profitable now, and they have improved and made incredible vehicles now, so I see your point in some ways. | ||
| You gotta let shit die. | ||
| Yeah, but goddammit, then they'd have no 2016 Corvette, and that thing's pretty sick. | ||
| Who needs a Corvette? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| You are a douche fucking nozzle. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| That's not a real Corvette. | ||
| That's an old school Corvette. | ||
| It's not like one of these that's brand new off the lot. | ||
| Oh, here's my 1987 Corvette. | ||
| Like, stop all that. | ||
| 87? | ||
| 1987? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| That's the dark years. | ||
| They're all dark years after fucking 1972. Yeah, until about 2013, 2014. The newer ones are pretty dope, dude. | ||
| You can't ever... | ||
| Your boy with the Lamborghini? | ||
| I'd take a Corvette over a Lamborghini. | ||
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No way. | |
| Yes, sir. | ||
| You know why I wouldn't? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Resale, and then I would buy a truck. | ||
| And a house. | ||
| How about America? | ||
| Keep America strong? | ||
| You know what the best thing about Keep America Strong is? | ||
| What did they pull the NASA space shuttle with? | ||
| What did they pull? | ||
|
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Toyota? | |
| Toyota Tundra? | ||
| Oh, no, they didn't. | ||
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Did they? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's awful. | ||
| 100% awesome. | ||
| It's a good truck, though. | ||
| I'm like, how did that get through? | ||
| Toyotas are good trucks. | ||
| You have a Coyota. | ||
| Yeah, that's my favorite. | ||
| That Tacoma. | ||
| They don't break. | ||
| They don't ever break. | ||
| They're coming out with a diesel, too, I heard. | ||
| Well, that's why everybody fell in love with those Land Cruisers. | ||
| That's what they used to say in Africa. | ||
| If you want to get into the bush, you bring a Range Rover. | ||
| You want to get out, you bring a Land Cruiser. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And that's why I love that dude John because he's like all about making it last forever instead of all these like I'd love to have a Mercedes or BMW or something like now that I'm able to it'd be great except that I'm not I just can't fucking buy something that's gonna crap out in 60,000 miles they all have an expiration date where there's like now there's real problems forever with the rest you know and I don't I don't it doesn't need to be that way I don't want to support that kind of culture that's rape culture to me how dare you yeah that's That's why I like those Lexus trucks. | ||
| I got that Lexus. | ||
| I like Infiniti's. | ||
| Those are dope and they last forever too. | ||
| They are not as good. | ||
| They look good. | ||
| I've had that and I've had the Lexus. | ||
| The Lexus is a better truck. | ||
| I had a Lexus and then I got an Infiniti and then I got... | ||
| Have you seen my new one? | ||
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| It's dope. | ||
| It's a spaceship. | ||
| Yeah, I'll show you. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| They make awesome trucks, man. | ||
| They make awesome trucks. | ||
| Also, the Lexus trucks, they're actual real four-wheel drive trucks because it's based off the Land Cruiser platform. | ||
| So they raise up. | ||
| They have locking differentials. | ||
| Like, if the shit hits the fan, you could actually go off-roading with a Land Cruiser. | ||
| You could go off-roading with a Lexus LX570. It's the same car. | ||
| It's the same as a Land Cruiser. | ||
| But there's a lot of electronic shit that the old ones didn't have. | ||
| The old ones, what people liked about them is you could just drive those motherfuckers through the desert, take them over a mountain. | ||
| They're so durable. | ||
| And Jonathan Ward, what he does to them makes them way more durable. | ||
| He puts polyurea coating over the entire floor of the car. | ||
| That shit is never rusting through, ever. | ||
| He puts these rock sliders on the side of them that also act as side impact beams. | ||
| Somebody hits you from the side, he puts solid steel bumpers on him, American-made bumpers, these giant fucking bumpers with a winch, a worn winch to fucking pull you out, 8,000-pound winch to pull you out of fucking trouble. | ||
| He's got these jerry cans in the back that carry water. | ||
| He puts these... | ||
| Roof racks on. | ||
| This is what we need for the ranch. | ||
| With a ramp on the front so that they don't rattle at speed when you're on the highway. | ||
| It's so genius what he's doing. | ||
| The Freedom Ranch. | ||
| Let's call it the Freedom Ranch. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Somebody probably already took that in Texas. | ||
| And you know what we do? | ||
| We call in Tim Kennedy to be our engineer for how to do the security perimeter and what all we need in there exactly to survive. | ||
| He'd get bored. | ||
| Well, he wouldn't stay for sure. | ||
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He'd be like... | |
| I'll come visit you guys now and again. | ||
| I need adventure. | ||
| He would have to fucking go off and do something else. | ||
| He's like, let's go shoot pigs on a helicopter. | ||
| That's the big thing. | ||
| I'm like, let's fucking do that. | ||
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Is that what he does? | |
| He's crazy. | ||
| That's my next trip to Austin. | ||
| To go do that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's the thing about Texas. | ||
| If we want to have a ranch in Texas, they already exist and we have game ranches. | ||
| And you can shoot all the pigs you want. | ||
| Well, not just pigs. | ||
| They bring in all these African animals, and so there's no regulations on them. | ||
| They're privately owned. | ||
| It was one of these high-fence ranches, and they had a lot of that exotic game in there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Axis. | ||
| You know, you want to jump over an airplane? | ||
| Jump out of an airplane? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know the dude from that MTV show just died doing that. | ||
| I don't know who he is, but my friend Andy Stumpf. | ||
| He does wingsuit shit. | ||
| Oh, fuck him. | ||
| And so he was a SEAL Team 6 guy. | ||
| Fuck him and fuck that. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And he's fucking, he's wild. | ||
| You gotta have him on your show. | ||
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Would you do that? | |
| Would you wingsuit it? | ||
| I wouldn't wingsuit. | ||
| Like, you gotta know some shit. | ||
| I have never jumped out of an aircraft. | ||
| But he used to teach, he taught my cousin who, he went through BUDS with Andy. | ||
| Where does he live? | ||
| Andy was an instructor. | ||
| He lives in San Diego. | ||
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Bring him up. | |
| Bring him up. | ||
| You and him together. | ||
| I will. | ||
| Does he drink? | ||
| Oh, yeah, I know he drinks. | ||
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Maybe he will enjoy some Nuevo Cerveza live from New Mexico. | |
| He does this shit to do the Navy Seal Foundation, and so all the monies go to that. | ||
| He's trying to break four records in a single jump. | ||
| Yeah, they would love that. | ||
| I'll just give them money. | ||
| I don't want to jump in any helicopters. | ||
| Oh, I do. | ||
| I'm going to jump out of a plane with them. | ||
| You know what's really thrilling? | ||
| Bow hunting. | ||
| Good enough. | ||
| That's good too. | ||
| But you know what, dude? | ||
| So another friend of mine, he's this army ranger, and he's fucking, he's retired, he's gone from that, and he's, you know, it's weird, retired and he's 26 or something, but he started fucking around with a bow when he got done. | ||
| He's a real, like, he doesn't talk to anybody, he's a real soloist, kind of likes to go sit in the woods by himself and... | ||
| And he started messing around with bows. | ||
| And I go, oh, you shoot a compound bow, or what are you shooting? | ||
| He goes, no, he makes his own, of course. | ||
| So we went to recurve, right, first, and then he started making his own. | ||
| And I go, why is that? | ||
| He goes, well, because it's like, the other one's like shooting a rifle. | ||
| He's like, it's just, there's nothing. | ||
| He says this, and so he's like, wants to be on horseback and shoot it. | ||
| He's a fucking trip. | ||
| And deadly as fuck. | ||
| Those guys are a trip. | ||
| That's some different level shit. | ||
| When you talk to those guys that are special operators like that, Like, I'm listening to Andy, and Andy's talking, and he's like... | ||
| He's talking about, like, oh, there's a SWAT team guy with us, and he's, like, talking about his MP5, and he's like, why do you have that? | ||
| And he's like, that's a fucking useless weapon. | ||
| Like, I hit a guy eight times in the chest with that across the room, and he walked into the other room. | ||
| I mean, he laid down there, but it's like, he fucking... | ||
| He's like, well, I just use it for sport, for target practice. | ||
| He's like, oh, well, that's okay then. | ||
| He's like, you really want to get it? | ||
| He's like, just right... | ||
| Just under the eyes and above the teeth, you want to get in that area. | ||
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I'm like, holy fuck! | |
| When anybody says above the teeth, you're talking about shooting a person. | ||
| Above the teeth. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| And you're like, this is one of the kindest, friendliest guys. | ||
| And then you hear him, and you're like, holy fuck! | ||
| Some of the nicest people I know were special operators. | ||
| Some of the nicest people I know. | ||
| I talked to him, too. | ||
| I'm like, how come there's... | ||
| He gave me a real insight into that about how come there's not more, like, withdrawal from war from guys that are special operators than regular guys. | ||
| It's like everybody that has PTSD, like, there's a ton of it. | ||
| And he goes, yeah, there's not a lot in our community. | ||
| And I go, why is that? | ||
| He goes, well, because if you're a regular guy on the ground, infantry guy, you can't engage. | ||
| You have to be reactive. | ||
| You have to be fired upon or whatever. | ||
| There's rules of engagement. | ||
| And he goes, for us, we're predators. | ||
| And we're going out to engage. | ||
| And so it's a different mindset. | ||
| You're in a place of either being defensive or offensive. | ||
| And if you're defensive, you're prey in a way. | ||
| And you get to be reactive to that. | ||
| But he's like, we're out hunting. | ||
| And he's like, also, by the time you get to that level, you're very dialed in about who you are and what you're doing. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Which I thought was super interesting. | ||
| It does make sense. | ||
| He's like, it's very, like, because he talked to Tim, too, and Tim's like, like, that shit's not present to him at all. | ||
| He's like, yeah, no, I'm fucking good. | ||
| Yeah, well, when he was on the podcast, we were talking about it. | ||
| He's like, you know, we're talking about people that are throwing acid on girls that were going to school. | ||
| He's like, yeah, I kill those guys. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when you say it like that, I'm right there with you. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| If I was there, I get it. | ||
| I get it 100%. | ||
| And that's the type of guys you want. | ||
| Fuck yes. | ||
| But there's not a lot of those guys out there. | ||
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No. | |
| There's a reason why it's so fucking hard to become a Navy SEAL. Yeah. | ||
| There's a reason why it's so hard to be a Ranger. | ||
| That is not easy. | ||
| No, that's the kind of shit like Marcus Luttrell talks about. | ||
| He goes, you've got to be, you know, if you get through, you've got to be willing to die, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My cousin, he was in SEAL Team 2 and he got in a gunfight and then he got shot up and He's recovered now, and I think he just screened for SEAL Team 6, and it's a year after his injury. | ||
| But two of his friends died in a pool, and they're in... | ||
| Training? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's a completely controlled environment. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck is that? | ||
| Well, you know what a lot of that is. | ||
| My friend Eric Crisp said when he was going through it, they make you drown. | ||
| Right, and resuscitate you. | ||
| That's part of the training. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's like the beginning of BUDS for everybody. | ||
| But these guys are already active duty combat SEALs. | ||
| And then like a few weeks ago it dawned on me and I think about like, you know, everybody's got safety and comfort. | ||
| Like here's where we live, right? | ||
| And then like Greg Jackson always say, you need to be comfortable where other men are uncomfortable. | ||
| Like you need to raise your breaking point to where it's unreachable for them and you can smash theirs, right? | ||
| And like so there's safety and comfort and then there's death over here. | ||
| And so If you're pushing it in a combat arena, like for me, it's a certain thing. | ||
| But then you get more and more... | ||
| It becomes opaque where death and your discomfort is. | ||
| And those guys are so used to being uncomfortable and in the worst situations possible that they probably can't see it. | ||
| So they're underwater in a pool and they're doing whatever they're doing. | ||
| And they drown. | ||
| And it's just too late. | ||
| I think it's something like that, probably, where they're so fucking tough, those guys. | ||
| They erase all their warning flags. | ||
| Whatever our body puts up is like warning. | ||
| Like, you need to stop this now or you're in danger. | ||
| I think that it just goes away for those guys. | ||
| That shit doesn't exist for them anymore. | ||
| There's levels with people, man. | ||
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Levels. | |
| There's levels of competency. | ||
| There's levels of excellence. | ||
| And there's levels of toughness. | ||
| And then there's people that put themselves into situations. | ||
| You go, you know what, man? | ||
| To the average person, you would go, this is just not a smart place to be, but to them, it's home. | ||
| That's where they're at. | ||
| That's where they live. | ||
| You're like, this is very uncomfortable for me. | ||
| I don't like this. | ||
| And their feet are kicked up on the couch. | ||
| They're like, this is great. | ||
| My friend Cameron Haynes sent me a text last night. | ||
| Cameron, he's the bowhunter. | ||
| He's awesome. | ||
| Fucking what a life he leads. | ||
| He's a stud. | ||
| Love that guy. | ||
| He's in Colorado right now, bowhunting. | ||
| He bowhunts constantly. | ||
| What I love about that... | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| He was bowhunting two weeks ago with his friend Roy, who got him into hunting. | ||
| This guy from Oregon, who's his best friend, got him into hunting. | ||
| This guy's a guide up in Alaska, and they got a moose. | ||
| Really difficult hunt. | ||
| They're in the middle of the fucking snowstorm, and it was six inches of snow. | ||
| They're trudging through. | ||
| They had to find these moose, and they finally got one, and it was like this big triumphant moment for them. | ||
| He sent me a text yesterday that Roy died yesterday, fell off of a cliff while sheep hunting, 700 foot drop, and died. | ||
| And this is a guy that he was just with. | ||
| This is one of his best friends, if not his best friend. | ||
| And he died the day before yesterday. | ||
| Fell 700 feet. | ||
| And that's what we're talking about. | ||
| They're always that close to that. | ||
| I mean, especially when you're sheep hunting. | ||
| These rocky, steep, steep, steep... | ||
| Ice. | ||
| Loose gravel. | ||
| Loose gravel. | ||
| And Cameron was supposed to be sheep hunting with him on that trip, but they had to call it off because the snow was too dangerous. | ||
| It was so much snow that it snowed for 10 days straight. | ||
| They couldn't get to these mountain areas. | ||
| And if there's snow, also, and you're trying to climb up these mountains, you don't know what the fuck you're stepping on. | ||
| You're stepping on some loose rock underneath that snow. | ||
| Or a crevasse. | ||
| It's like just snow that's capped, and then you go right through. | ||
| Right through, and then you're fucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he fell 700 feet to his death. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's... | ||
| How did Cameron turn a corner to where he was able to monetize his life? | ||
| It's only recently. | ||
| He's been doing it forever. | ||
| It's so fucking cool. | ||
| He's been doing it forever. | ||
| He just hustles, man. | ||
| He works a full-time job. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| He has a full-time job. | ||
| He works for the Department of Water and Power in Oregon. | ||
| Wow, okay. | ||
| Works all day. | ||
| Nine hours and then he gets home. | ||
| He fucking runs. | ||
| He lifts. | ||
| Savage, man. | ||
| He's just tough as shit, man. | ||
| Guy does ultra marathons. | ||
| Energetic as anything. | ||
| Well, he's just tough. | ||
| Mental toughness. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's like the main strength that guy has. | ||
| Incredible mental toughness. | ||
| He's like a Diaz brother. | ||
| In a lot of ways with the endurance aspect of it, yeah. | ||
| That kind of thing, just gritty determination. | ||
| Just hard work, man. | ||
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It's cool. | |
| Guy just works hard. | ||
| It's cool, too, because he's not in a, it's, you know, like, if you're a fighter or you're a football player or you're in the army or something, that gets directed in a way for you, but, like, that's a real soloist thing that he does. | ||
| And there's a lot of guys that hunt, but there's not a lot of guys that are like that guy who's like, I'm going to go ahead and strap fucking a bunch of plates on my back and run up the mountain this morning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's not a lot of guys that train to hunt, like, He trains to be an apex predator. | ||
| Well, when you hunt with him, you realize, like, he and I were hunting in Colorado a couple weeks ago, and we went up this hill, and this fucking dude runs hills so often. | ||
| I'm in pretty good shape. | ||
| I'm following behind him. | ||
| I'm fucking huffing. | ||
| I mean, I'm trying to keep up with him, but I'm breathing heavy. | ||
| I got to the top with him. | ||
| I'm like... | ||
| He's not even breathing. | ||
| I mean, he's not even fucking breathing. | ||
| I mean, he's fine. | ||
| He's like, he could have a conversation with you. | ||
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Whereas I'm like, man, that's fucking Steve Hill. | |
| I'm like, this is the difference between a guy who runs hills and a guy who doesn't. | ||
| He prepares for that specific environment. | ||
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So cool. | |
| Constantly running hills constantly lifting weights all that and you know people criticize them You don't need to do that stuff You don't need to do that stuff because they don't want to do it and they don't like that someone is doing it, right? | ||
| But that fucking guy kills several bull elk every year kills moose every time he goes out He's killing something and that's all he eats. | ||
| He eats high protein organic meat constantly and he's inspirational That's what I love about him, man. | ||
| That guy, I've run into so many people that are inspired by that guy, and he forces them, by just watching him, it forces them to get off their ass and go do stuff, and go lift weights, go work out. | ||
| I mean, a guy like that, you're going, if I do 15% of what he does, I'm winning. | ||
| And he works all day. | ||
| Guy works 40 hours a week. | ||
| I thought for sure that was his full-time shit. | ||
| Yeah, he makes way more from bowhunting than he does from his work. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| But he keeps the job. | ||
| He doesn't want to anymore. | ||
| Get a pension or something at the end of it. | ||
| All that shit. | ||
| He's got kids and insurance and all that shit. | ||
| That is a ton. | ||
| Kids too? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wife, kids, whole deal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Speaking of which, I gotta get the fuck out of here, Tate Fletcher. | ||
| We gotta do these more often, dude. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Why don't we do this? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This was fun. | ||
| Yeah, I love it, man. | ||
| Tate motherfucking Fletcher on Instagram. | ||
| That's T-A-I-T. I don't know who the fuck T-A-T is. | ||
| Yeah, not me, huh? | ||
| Tell him to kick rocks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nuevo Cerveza, CavemanCoffeeCO.com. | ||
| This shit right here, Caveman Nitro. | ||
| This is the shit. | ||
| We got our new packaging for our concentrate. | ||
| Mmm, delicious. | ||
| You know, all that goodness. | ||
| This stuff right here, this is my all-time favorite. | ||
| I go through this. | ||
| You know what else fucking goes through it? | ||
| That little cunt. | ||
| I'm going to bring him some. | ||
| We got pallets on pallets inside L.A. right now. | ||
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Oh, Jamie just got all salivating. | |
| Cool, man. | ||
| All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you. | ||
| Much love. | ||
| See you soon. | ||
| Bye-bye. | ||
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Big kiss. |
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