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Oct. 9, 2015 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #706 - Brendan Schaub & Fight Companion ? (Part 2)
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brendan schaub
16:58
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joe rogan
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craig jones
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josh olin
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joe rogan
Not at that clock at all.
It's dope, right?
We live?
We're back.
Part two, folks.
If you hated part one, this one's going to be worse.
Worse, worse, worse.
I fucking hate this show.
You know what my favorite is when people go, fucking shows change, man.
You used to fucking be more open-minded.
Yeah, people change.
brendan schaub
What do you want me to do, man?
joe rogan
I changed.
I changed over five years.
brendan schaub
Everyone changed.
I'm not into fucking Legos and video games, man.
I grew up.
joe rogan
I definitely don't think I'm less open-minded, though.
I'm definitely less tolerant for stupid shit, though.
I just think I've heard it too many times now.
I'm like, stop!
Stop!
It's not doing anybody any good.
unidentified
Stop!
brendan schaub
Yeah, you cut out the bullshit.
joe rogan
Well, I cut out, like, conspiracy bullshit and religious bullshit.
It's like...
And it doesn't mean that I, I don't know, I'm not willing to consider people's points of view, but certain things, just at a certain point in time, you can't keep refreshing them over and over and over again.
You know, when it gets to a certain point in time, like, for instance, like UFOs.
Do I think the UFOs are real?
It's totally possible.
If we can put a satellite around the Earth, it's very possible.
That some advanced life form can send a spaceship here from another galaxy.
Have I seen anything that makes me believe that it's actually happening?
No proof.
No.
So, when you don't share that opinion, when you're absolutely convinced that the government is hiding details and like, okay, what makes you really want to believe this?
Because you're not saying this based on some hardcore shit.
Like, I know that if you take this plastic and you put it over fire, whoops, did I fuck that up?
If you take this plastic, how did I do that?
Exit.
Take this plastic...
unidentified
Oh, what the fuck, you cunt?
joe rogan
Watch now.
Jesus Christ.
If you take this plastic and put it over fire, right?
What are they doing?
They're playing this again?
What are they doing here?
I didn't start this from the beginning, did I? No.
brendan schaub
No, it's a filler fight.
joe rogan
They're showing this fight again?
brendan schaub
The old filler fight.
Well, we watched it on...
joe rogan
Oh, we already watched this fight.
We watched it on the video?
Was this on the prelims for the...
Was it?
Okay.
So I guess we watch this again.
brendan schaub
Can you do?
joe rogan
Maybe I'm wrong.
Is this a tournament?
It's not a tournament.
Oh, it is a tournament.
brendan schaub
It's the heavyweight tournament.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
So this guy won early.
He's the number one ranked heavyweight.
unidentified
Ooh, shaking, dog.
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Look at that little dance moves.
brendan schaub
Oh, look at him go.
joe rogan
Oh, damn.
Look at him.
unidentified
He's feeling good.
joe rogan
He's feeling it.
brendan schaub
Look at his trainer in the back.
Awkward.
Awkward.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I wonder what music he's dancing to.
brendan schaub
The white people in Denver.
joe rogan
Let me guess how bad this song is.
Probably the worst song ever.
Let's hear it.
What song is it?
I want to hear the song.
unidentified
I want to hear Quadros.
brendan schaub
Sounds like some Rick Ross.
unidentified
Really?
By the way, when I called Quadroskeletor, I was just joking.
brendan schaub
He does look like him though.
joe rogan
A little bit.
brendan schaub
Call a spade a spade.
joe rogan
I'm a little high.
I got goofy.
brendan schaub
I'm not, but he does look like Skeletor.
joe rogan
He's very knowledgeable though.
Knows a lot of shit about kickboxing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, great man.
Still looks like Skeletor.
joe rogan
How dare you.
unidentified
How dare you.
brendan schaub
How dare you confirm what he said.
joe rogan
He and Eddie Bravo had like some serious beef back in the day.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Over what?
joe rogan
Probably doesn't want to talk about it.
I probably shouldn't have been talking about it.
I'll tell you afterwards.
brendan schaub
Was it legit beef though?
joe rogan
It's horse shit.
It's all stupidity.
brendan schaub
Don't let Eddie fucking get a hold of you.
joe rogan
Oh, stupidity.
No, no, no, no.
Not like that.
Oh, it didn't come to that?
brendan schaub
Gossip?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll tell you that, too.
brendan schaub
I'm down for that.
You definitely tell me how to do it.
joe rogan
Hey, people change.
People grow, and they move on.
Speaking of growing and moving on, what?
In between the fight, you might have mentioned something that you might have wanted to...
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'd rather it come from me first, especially on this platform, than hear it from anyone else.
Things have just got too crazy, man.
It's like the perfect storm, and the UFC wanted me to sign the...
You know, the license deal with Reebok and the random testing, the Vada testing, whatever the fuck it is.
And really, I was just going to write this out, and I wanted to do one more fight, but with the fighter and the kid, how crazy it's become, and I never thought it would become this, and the live shows, and now we're going on tour, and I have this other gig I got on a big network that I can't talk about until it's done, and the merchandise and all this stuff.
I got to step away from the game, man.
I got to step away from the UFC for right now.
joe rogan
You know what I love about fighting?
We were talking about this, that you could just say, I'm going to retire.
And then you could say, like, in a week from now, I'm unretired.
And then a week later, you could say, retired again.
brendan schaub
You could, yeah.
Yeah, you could go back and forth for sure, but...
joe rogan
Like, think about Sugar Ray Leonard.
How many times does a coal miner retire?
Usually once.
brendan schaub
Just once.
joe rogan
Shigaray Leonard retired like a half a dozen fucking times.
brendan schaub
And I get it with fighters, man, but for me, you know, and I talked to my family and close friends, and you were one of them, and Callan and, you know, my dad, and going through it, man, it just...
Do I want one more?
Fuck yes, man, but it just...
It doesn't make sense.
I can't see myself, and when it comes down to this, I can't see myself in a fucking Reebok kit walking out to that octagon.
I can't see myself being like, you know what?
Cool, man.
Yeah, that's what I'm worth.
I'm worth 10 grand to you guys.
I'm going to do this, you know?
And I have other opportunities.
Everything I have, and people think I'm this hater on the UFC or whatever, I owe it to the UFC, man.
I'll always be indebted to the UFC. People think I have a problem with Dana White.
I definitely don't.
If Dana was in trouble and texted me right now and said, hey, Shab, I wish you'd quit talking shit about Reebok or I need help, you got it, man.
Cool.
Done.
I'll always be a supporter of the UFC, whatever they need.
But for right now, I gotta take a step away and focus on this crazy frickin' entertainment podcast career I got going on, man.
I'm so blessed.
joe rogan
You are, and I think that there's moments like that where necessity becomes the mother of invention.
Necessity to figure out another way to generate income.
Because the $100,000 you were making from sponsorships, which is 100% real and legit and certified and authenticated, proven, that's a lot of goddamn money you're missing out on every time you would compete.
And so because of that, it makes you concentrate and put even more effort into your podcast and into your merch set.
And then look how everything's going.
I mean, it's insane how much money you guys are making.
And more important, it's insane how many people you guys are entertaining and how many people you guys are reaching.
brendan schaub
It's insane.
When I did that live show the other night, dude, I thought Kellen and our agent were honeydicking me, like this thing's selling out.
And I got on stage with that mic.
I was like, oh, man, this is what I'm going to do.
I love this.
joe rogan
What?
brendan schaub
What?
This is insane, man.
Oh, now they want to do this tour and the things are selling out.
It'd be tough for me to say, no, you know what?
Let me go fight some monster who's been training full-time, not telling dick jokes.
You know what I'm saying?
And selling fucking big brown shirts full-time.
Let me go fight that guy.
I wouldn't do the game a disservice.
You know what I'm saying?
I wouldn't do that.
So unless I could focus on it full-time, there's just no way.
And signing this Reebok deal, it's not going to happen, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from and I completely understand the idea that if you're not 100% focused on fighting, it's just not something you should do.
I've always told people that fighting should be a singular pursuit.
I think it's unlike any other pursuit where if you're going to do it, you have to make sure that all your eggs are in that one basket.
I really don't think you could have one foot in the game, one foot out of the game.
I think it's real dangerous to do that with fighting.
brendan schaub
And not be good.
joe rogan
Yeah, because you're going to fight some fucking guy who's all-in.
And those all-in murderers, they're out there.
Those all-in guys, you know?
You run into a Rumble Johnson who's all-in.
brendan schaub
100%, man, with no other option.
And listen, to me, and people might beg to differ, I feel like I've won, man.
You know, I have no brain trauma that I know of, and my body's in good shape.
I have this insane career right now with podcasts and live shows and this other gig I get going on with TV, and I feel like I've won.
And honestly, I owe it to the UFC, man.
I'm indebted to them forever, and I'll always still watch every fight and who knows what happens in the future, but for right now, there's no way.
They could offer me anybody, and there's no way.
There's no way I could put all this on hold and be like, yeah, let me go take this fight.
joe rogan
Well, it would be hard because all this has been an investment in your time, and it's also been paying off, and it also is growing considerably.
For people who don't know your numbers, I know where you guys were a year ago and two years ago, and I know where you are now.
It's this crazy exponential thing where every month it comes up and up and up and up.
And it's because it's good.
And you guys got a weird dynamic, you know?
Callen's such a fucking goofball.
And, you know, it's like he's like a built-in joke all the time.
Like, he'll always say something ridiculous.
And you two together are funny.
Like, it's a funny group.
It's a funny grouping.
It's interesting.
brendan schaub
And the thing is, what I'm doing, listen, man, my two advisors are Joe Rogan and Brian Callen.
What?
What the fuck?
I got the Mount Rushmore, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Guys who have done shit who are saying- For sure listen to me and not him.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Listen to me right now.
brendan schaub
Real quick.
Hey, that's me being friendly to Callan, all right?
That's me being friendly to Callan.
joe rogan
But the thing is then- Brian will give you some fucking goddamn horrible advice.
brendan schaub
I'd be selling used electronics.
If I was Callan was advising this fucking thing.
He wanted to open a pond store.
That's a different story.
joe rogan
A what store?
brendan schaub
A pond store.
joe rogan
A pond?
brendan schaub
Like a pond.
Like a pond.
Like a fucking pond stars.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Oh, a pond.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
For real?
brendan schaub
For real.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
brendan schaub
This was a horrible idea he had.
joe rogan
I thought you said a pond, like he wants to open up pool ponds?
unidentified
Like, okay.
brendan schaub
Firing kids ponds?
joe rogan
That's really, uh, that's a weird way of looking at things.
Maybe people like ponds.
unidentified
No, he wanted to sell- Damn, these guys are going off, dude.
Oh!
brendan schaub
Homeboy got blasted.
joe rogan
This fight is fucking crazy.
brendan schaub
But yeah, so long story short, I'm stepping away from the game, man.
There's going to be no Shaub Reebok kits out there.
I'm not finding one anytime soon.
joe rogan
Did they ever make a Shaub Reebok kit?
Could I get one as a collector's item?
brendan schaub
I think they did for like a week, and then I came out and just talked all this shit, and they're like, oh shit, pull that shit down.
Pull that shit down right now.
joe rogan
Did anybody buy one?
craig jones
Do you get any money from those?
brendan schaub
Probably like 14 cents or some shit.
I don't know the deal.
But sure as fuck, not as much as sell my own shit.
joe rogan
Oh, well, no.
Because then you get all of it.
brendan schaub
Exactly.
And we just released shirts and I made, you know, I'm not good talking.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You're a little bit of money.
You're doing good.
brendan schaub
I'm doing good.
unidentified
Everything's very good here.
brendan schaub
I'm doing good.
joe rogan
Everything's nice.
There's no need to be struggling.
brendan schaub
Nah, there's no one struggling.
I sell more shirts than Reebok kits.
joe rogan
Well, here's the reality.
You guys, what you've done is a real show.
It's a real show.
It's just like having a TV show.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
And people don't think it's a TV show because it's not on NBC or CBS or Fox, but it's the same goddamn thing.
brendan schaub
It will be.
But we're filming in November.
joe rogan
You're not supposed to say that.
brendan schaub
No, I can say that.
Yeah, that's all.
We start shooting in November.
We have the director, the production team.
That's what we've been doing, writing episodes.
joe rogan
It's a show.
It's a successful entertainment vehicle.
That's what it is.
And that's what podcasts are.
And they seem like they're horseshit.
And...
People used to make fun of him before.
You know, Howard Stern, before he got into that thing with Ari, he made fun of podcasts when Adam Carolla came on his show.
He was like, are you hurting for money?
Like, what's going on?
Meanwhile, Adam Carolla owns a fucking giant warehouse.
He's got like 10 different podcasts running simultaneously.
brendan schaub
He's killing it.
joe rogan
He's raking it in.
brendan schaub
Well, people are threatened by it, right?
And also, the thing with podcasts is there's no kind of standard to start a podcast.
So if Joe Schmoe wants to start one, he can start one.
So there's a ton of them out there.
But there's some fucking awesome podcasts, just like anything.
There's a ton of shitty radio shows out there.
There's a ton of shitty TV out there.
But there's a bunch of good content out there, man.
joe rogan
100%.
There's some real good ones.
Damn, this dude in the white, he keeps landing those fucking leg kicks on this dude.
The other guy's name is Willness, too.
brendan schaub
Is Willness on the right?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
In them basic-ass basketball shorts?
He just said, fuck it, huh?
joe rogan
He didn't get the Reebok kit.
brendan schaub
He said, give me those 8th grade basketball shorts.
joe rogan
These guys are kicking the shit out of each other's legs, by the way.
brendan schaub
Straight up.
joe rogan
It's hurting my legs just watching this.
Ugh.
Boom.
Big uppercut.
brendan schaub
Huge left hook.
joe rogan
This is a good fight, man.
brendan schaub
Great fight.
joe rogan
But they're standing right in front of each other.
This is an MMA fight for sure, so I'm going to be in half guard right now.
brendan schaub
Yeah, which I prefer.
joe rogan
You know, it's weird, right?
That they...
MMA really is the perfect sport because as cool as this is to watch guys go off and stand and strike, the reality is they're so open for takedowns, it's not realistic.
brendan schaub
It's not a real fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a difference.
It's almost like a skills match.
It's not a fight-fight.
It is a fight, but it's a kickboxing fight.
brendan schaub
It's a fight fight with a set agenda.
Like a fight fight, some shit's going to go down.
We might go to the ground, whatever.
joe rogan
That's why people love the UFC. It's also three minutes as opposed to five minutes.
It's kind of interesting because it's easier to stand and strike, like cardio-wise, than it is to grapple and strike at the same time.
brendan schaub
The only difference is if we grapple, I can get breaks.
joe rogan
Maybe.
What if you're fighting Kane?
There's no breaks.
That's how Kane breaks dudes.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
He breaks you because there's no breaks.
brendan schaub
Kane will take some breaks, though.
joe rogan
Well, he did in Mexico.
brendan schaub
Like, fifth round when he's balls deep in your chin with his head.
joe rogan
You're already dead.
brendan schaub
You're fucked.
You're fucked.
And he's, like, taking a second off and he's going back to beating your brains in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
A la Junior Dos Santos.
joe rogan
He's taking tiny little breaks.
brendan schaub
No, he's taken years away from your life.
joe rogan
Oh, he's definitely done that.
brendan schaub
Jun Dos Santos is like, huh?
Not the same dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Your batshit crazy thing, that's the same dude.
joe rogan
But do you think that he's the same dude after that fight with Fabrizio?
brendan schaub
I've heard a lot of things where, you know, Kane didn't have the great camp, he didn't get there.
joe rogan
Definitely didn't get there early enough.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
Correct.
Still got his ass whooped.
But this is Kane, man.
So I've heard a lot of things that went on there.
So I think they fight at sea level.
We're going to see.
But to say that fight took years off Kane's life, no, I don't think so.
Not like the same way Junior Dos Santos Kane did.
craig jones
Do you have any reservations about them fighting in Brazil?
brendan schaub
If I'm Kanan, I'm like, what the fuck?
What the fuck's wrong with you?
What the fuck's wrong with you, man?
I'm a champ for how long?
Now you're going to throw me to the wolves?
joe rogan
Can we get some drug testing this bitch?
Fabricio's the champ.
They'll still be drug testing.
It'll be Brazilian drug testing.
It should be fine.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that'll be fine.
That works for everybody.
joe rogan
I think Vitor Belfort's doctor is responsible for some of that over there.
brendan schaub
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
So he knows what he's doing.
brendan schaub
Oh, don't get me started.
I fought in Brazil.
I was like, huh?
unidentified
What?
What?
brendan schaub
I don't feel good.
You have the truck exhaust pouring into my locker room.
Ah, you'll be fine.
Swear to God.
joe rogan
No way.
brendan schaub
You'll swear on my life.
joe rogan
You had a truck exhaust pouring into your locker room?
brendan schaub
The back-up trucks where I fought in, the trucks were backed up and on, and the exhausts coming into my locker room.
joe rogan
Come on.
brendan schaub
We're all sleepy, and my coach goes, Bro!
Bro, wake the fuck up.
I go, what?
Oh, I'm there six hours early, by the way.
He goes, wake up.
Dude, everyone's like down.
He's like, it's the truck fumes.
We gotta get out of here.
So we have to go outside and warm up outside.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
True story.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
That's like getting drugged.
brendan schaub
Now things are weird, man.
You're in Brazil.
You think you're gonna knock no gear out.
You don't bring a striking coach.
You're sucking fumes in from trucks.
Terrible idea.
joe rogan
There's a lot of things that could have gone better in that situation.
brendan schaub
Isn't it weird how life works out, though?
It all leads to this.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is weird how life works out.
Well, you know, it doesn't always.
Like, some people are defeated by setbacks, and some people use setbacks to move forward.
It's like we were talking about Ryan Bader.
He's a perfect example.
A couple years ago, people were writing Ryan Bader off.
It wasn't that long ago.
brendan schaub
I agree 100%.
joe rogan
Now look at him.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Now look at him.
Beats OSP. Beats Fajal.
You know, looks fucking fantastic against Phil Davis.
Looks fantastic against Rashad.
brendan schaub
Dude, you know how fucked I'd be if I didn't have this podcast and these live shows and shit right now?
I'd be in training camp getting ready for probably some Black Beast on fucking Fight Pass.
joe rogan
Black Beast?
brendan schaub
He called me out.
That's why I said it.
Did he?
I wasn't going to acknowledge it.
Yeah.
Hey, bro.
For sure, pick a guy who can actually fight.
joe rogan
That'd be a fight that I would actually encourage you to probably take.
brendan schaub
Yeah, me too.
I'd do it.
I'd rip this Jay Leno denim shirt right off right now and beat him up right now.
I'd be like, huh?
What?
joe rogan
He's a tough guy, though.
He's a tough guy.
He's very tough.
He hits hard, too.
brendan schaub
If you're in the UFC, they're all tough.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
Not as tough as B-Shub!
joe rogan
What do you think about the Stipe Miocic-Ben Rothwell fight?
That's a really good fight.
brendan schaub
That's a great fight, man.
That's a tough one to call.
That's a super tough one to call.
joe rogan
Really, really good fight.
brendan schaub
It's in Dublin.
That's whatever.
So that's whoever.
joe rogan
Stipe's a beast, man.
brendan schaub
Stipe's a motherfucker.
And coming off the Mark Hunt fight, it depends on which Rothwell we get.
You know what I'm saying?
Rothwell's confident as fuck, and he's tough as fuck.
joe rogan
He hits hard.
You know more than anybody, but you look at that Brendan Vera fight, he beat the shit out of Brendan Vera.
brendan schaub
Yeah, with me, I threw that spinning back elbow, first one ever landed by a heavyweight, but the thing is, is I brocked him, and then I come flying in, and he clips him with that left hook, which is whatever.
This is how stupid I was back then.
When they offered me Ben Rothwell, I went, what?
I argued with my manager and Joe Silva.
I'm like, it's too easy, man.
I need something else.
unidentified
Huh?
joe rogan
Did you really thought it was too easy?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I was like, oh, this is such an easy fight.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
What the fuck?
joe rogan
So did you underestimate him?
brendan schaub
100%.
I thought he was this big, slow guy.
I just...
Right before we go in the cage, my coach, Lister Bolin, who heads Muscle Farm now, TJ Dillashaw's coach, looks at me and goes, bro...
This is not a fucking sprint.
Let's drag his ass in the third round and submit him.
He has no jiu-jitsu.
Drag his ass in the third round.
Don't go crazy.
You got it.
Go in there.
Go in there.
unidentified
Spinning elbow.
brendan schaub
Wobbled.
Fucking go crazy.
It clipped.
Like a fucking idiot, man.
joe rogan
I liked how he fought against Overeem.
brendan schaub
He looked real good against Overeem.
He's on the fucking heat, man.
joe rogan
He's scary.
brendan schaub
And a guy with experience like that, it's tough.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's scary, dude.
brendan schaub
We'll see, man.
Like, Stipe's a motherfucker.
joe rogan
He's just got to be in incredible shape for Stipe, because Stipe is so fit.
He's so fit, and, you know, he gained a lot of confidence in the Junior Dos Santos fight, went five hard rounds with Dos Santos in a war.
It was a really close war.
And then he goes from that to beat the shit out of Mark Hunt.
I mean, Stipe's on a roll right now.
brendan schaub
This is the only, I think, X factor in this fight is...
Rothwell is so fucking tough, and Rothwell has knockout power, which Stipe really doesn't.
joe rogan
Yeah, Stipe's more of a volume guy.
Look at that tsunami on TV with The Rock.
Did you see that tsunami?
brendan schaub
Yeah, that shit's all fake, though, isn't it?
joe rogan
Listen, dog, this shit is how it goes.
brendan schaub
San Andreas?
joe rogan
This is you.
Here we go.
brendan schaub
This is you.
joe rogan
This is you, Marina Del Rey.
Marina Del Rey having a little party.
Hey, everything's going to be fine.
Oh my god.
Why is the ground moving?
Oh my god.
I'm in a condo.
Don't worry.
This condo is waterproof.
Look at this shit, son.
That's what I'm talking about.
That kind of shit.
Look at that shit!
That kind of shit.
That kind of shit ain't nothing for the world.
brendan schaub
Bro, I hate to tell you, you're fucked, too, where you're at.
If that big thing comes, we're all fucked.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
brendan schaub
Can I just hate on that?
joe rogan
Can I just be the hammer and not the nail?
I got it all planned out, bro.
I got water saved up.
The water's at least your fucking problems.
You got real issues, man.
It's coming.
brendan schaub
What were we talking about?
Oh, Stipe Rothwell.
joe rogan
Yeah, Stipe Rothwell's a hell of a fight, man.
brendan schaub
I can't believe that's not the main event.
Who is it?
Duffy and...
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Duffy and Poirier is a great fight.
brendan schaub
That's a great fight.
joe rogan
Duffy's a beast.
Joe Duffy's a fucking monster.
brendan schaub
Duffy's a beast.
Boxing's ridiculous.
joe rogan
He's a very good fighter.
brendan schaub
High-level boxer.
unidentified
Good kicking, too, man.
brendan schaub
And he also beat Conor McGregor.
joe rogan
He submitted him.
He's got good kicking, too.
He's got a really good overall MMA game.
He mixes things up very well.
brendan schaub
Dustin's a monster, too, man, especially at that weight class.
Yeah, Poirier was way better at 155. I just can't believe Stipe, was he ranked number two in the world?
Can't get a main event?
joe rogan
Is he number two now?
Kane's got to be number one.
Junior is injured right now.
brendan schaub
Is he?
No, he's fighting over him in December.
joe rogan
Right, but he was just coming off of surgery.
brendan schaub
True, and he did beat Stipe, but then Stipe beat Mark, but JDS beat Mark.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Junior beat Stipe in his last fight.
I think he's got to be number one, besides Kane.
I think Kane's got to be number one, and then Junior's got to be number two, no?
brendan schaub
It would make sense if he is, and then Stipe's three, and then Orlowski's four, Brown five.
joe rogan
There's some fucking weird...
Weird shit with ratings sometimes, man.
unidentified
Yeah, there it is.
brendan schaub
One, two.
I don't know who the fuck does them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Some of the ratings are real weird, man.
Sometimes guys beat guys and they're below them in the ratings.
You're like, wait, what?
brendan schaub
It's super weird.
joe rogan
I don't understand how they work.
Who decides?
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying.
Who the fuck decides?
joe rogan
Yeah, like Uriah Hall.
Here's a perfect example.
Uriah Hall, where's Mousasi?
Above Uriah Hall.
Uriah Hall just jump-spinning back-kick, Gegard Mousasi in the face, flying-kneed him in the face, and then beat him down for a TKO. So you tell me, how the fuck is Uriah Hall number 10 and Gegard Mousasi is number 8?
With all due respect, and Gegard's a great fighter, and people are like, he's a better fighter.
No, he's not.
They fought and he lost.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Uriah Hall's the better fighter.
You might look at Gegard Musashi's background and say, well, no, you've got to see Gegard Musashi.
He beat Jacare in Japan.
He beat Dan Henderson.
You look at his victories in the UFC and you go, well, he's got to be the guy.
But no, Uriah Hall fought him and beat him.
He should be above him in the rankings.
Those rankings are crazy.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
Those are crazy rankings.
Like, what the fuck do you have to do to move up in the rankings if you can't jump spinning back kick a guy in the face and then flying knee a guy in the face?
By the way, in the second round.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Yeah, he lost the first round.
He got taken down and dominated.
But so did Anderson Silva when Anderson Silva fought Chael Sonnen the second time.
Are we going to still rank Chael Sonnen above Anderson Silva after Anderson kneed him in the body and stopped him in the third fight?
brendan schaub
I don't think they have a rhyme or reason to the ranking madness.
Like, remember when they were going to pay guys based off their ranking?
I was like, what?!
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
That's fucking insane.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brendan schaub
Because it's all up for debate, right?
joe rogan
Who makes that?
I need to know who makes that.
brendan schaub
I think it's a bunch of dudes.
joe rogan
How is that?
That is one of the most big...
Go back to where it was, please.
brendan schaub
Hey, good luck ranking the lightweights.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that is one of the worst ranking situations I've ever seen.
When you win in a spectacular way, like Uriah Hall just did, and you are not rewarded by moving up in the rankings, that's the definition of insanity.
That is weird.
That's goofy as fuck, man.
There's Jason Willis getting a little Vaseline.
brendan schaub
Let me see those lightweight rankings.
How in the fuck do you rank all those monsters?
joe rogan
Let's see that.
Okay.
Number one.
Who do we got here?
Pettis.
Makes sense.
Two, Cerrone.
Makes sense.
Nurmagomedov.
Three.
All makes sense.
Eddie Alvarez.
Four.
Okay.
Eddie Alvarez only has one victory in the UFC, though, right?
brendan schaub
That's tough.
So they're going based off his pyre.
joe rogan
Gilbert Melendez.
He beat Melendez.
Michael Johnson.
Hmm.
Michael Johnson's very high level right now.
He's looking real good.
Did Michael Johnson just lose to somebody?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
No, he lost.
But he actually beat him, but he lost in a country decision to a homeboy from Black House Great Striker.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Benil Dariush.
brendan schaub
Dariush.
joe rogan
I love that, dude.
And where's Dariush in the ratings?
He's down at number 10. That's interesting.
So Michael Johnson is all the way up at number 5, and he lost to Benil Dariush, who's number 10. Hmm.
That is fucking interesting as shit.
brendan schaub
Look at fucking welterweight, man.
joe rogan
That's a weird one because that's one where a lot of people thought that Michael Johnson got a raw deal.
brendan schaub
Yeah, 100%.
So he wasn't punished at all in the ratings.
And I'm a Darius fan, and I think he lost that fight.
joe rogan
I'm a Darius fan as well.
brendan schaub
Big fan.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker.
Miles Jury, number nine.
I thought Miles Jury had moved to featherweight now.
Isn't he?
Didn't he move to featherweight?
Isn't he fighting someone in the featherweight division in his next fight?
brendan schaub
I thought so, too.
joe rogan
Have you ever watched his Ink Master?
Is this a good show?
brendan schaub
I have watched it.
joe rogan
Seems weird to have contests on permanent art.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I kind of dig it, man.
joe rogan
Permanent artwork on someone's body.
brendan schaub
Dave Navarro, though.
Fuck's sakes, bro.
Easy on the eye makeup, huh?
joe rogan
I like him.
Beautiful man.
brendan schaub
You know what?
Don't get me wrong.
I'm a fan.
I heard he has a hoggy with Carmen Electra.
However, you've got to chill out on the eye makeup, bro.
If I'm going to continue to watch the show.
Let's see.
Welterweight.
Welterweight's a motherfucker!
joe rogan
Here's the dark horse in the lightweight division, though.
Tony motherfucking Ferguson.
That's your dark horse right there.
brendan schaub
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
Tony Ferguson's the dark horse.
brendan schaub
Well, first of all, he's the hardest hitter in the entire division.
joe rogan
He's spooky, too.
There's something spooky about him.
brendan schaub
He's so game, it's insane.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker, dude.
brendan schaub
Bro, how do you have Kelvin ranked 15?
Didn't he...
joe rogan
Did Calvin win his last fight at 185 and then they allowed him to fight at 170 again?
That's what happened, right?
He beat Nate.
brendan schaub
That's right.
joe rogan
He beat the shit out of Nate.
brendan schaub
That's right, and they forced him out, yeah.
joe rogan
That was a sad fight.
I did not enjoy that fight.
brendan schaub
Fucking terrible.
And Nate's still fighting.
Anyways, how about Hendricks?
How about your boy Hendricks?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Are they going to make him fight middleweight now?
brendan schaub
He said he's not fighting middleweight.
He said he's going to go one more time at 170. Well, how is he going to do that?
joe rogan
Because Dana White said, I consider him a middleweight now.
He missed weight, fucked everybody up, fucked up Tyron Woodley.
brendan schaub
Can you tell a guy what weight to fight at?
Nah.
Especially if you're Johnny Hendricks.
joe rogan
Well, you can if you won't give him a fight at 170 because you've got such a talent-rich division.
I mean, look at what you've got down there at welterweight.
Look at this.
You've got Rory McDonald, Tyron Woodley, you've got Hendricks, No, those guys are bigger stars than Hendrix.
But people don't pay to see Hendrix.
Like, they pay to see, like, a George St. Pierre, or, like, they pay to see, you know, like, some of the bigger stars in the UFC. Because a lot of people thought that Hendrix, like, in some of his victories, like the Matt Brown fight...
They thought that it wasn't that exciting.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
See, I disagree.
I'll pay to see that guy any day of the week.
I think he's fighting smart.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
And I like that he uses his wrestling.
brendan schaub
But bro, besides Robbie Lawler, who's the most exciting guy in the division...
joe rogan
Condit's pretty goddamn exciting.
brendan schaub
He's been gone for a while, but he's excited as fuck.
joe rogan
But he just knocked out Tiago Alves with a nasty elbow.
Matt Brown is about as exciting as a fucking human being can get.
brendan schaub
I'm saying exciting.
I'm saying a bigger name than Johnny Hendricks.
None of those guys are bigger than Hendricks.
Condit, you can say, but he's been gone for a while.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
Hendricks is a big name, bro.
joe rogan
He's a big name, but I don't necessarily know how that translates to pay-per-view buys, which at the end of the day is a huge factor.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying a guy like Johnny Hendricks, a two-time champion, you can't say, oh, you have to fight at 185. If he's like, no, no, I'll make it.
joe rogan
No, but you do if he doesn't make the weight more than once, and he's already missed the weight twice.
He's missed weight twice and barely made it for one of the Lawler fights.
brendan schaub
Dude, he came in way overweight for this, too.
Like 26 pounds, what I heard?
Come on, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was heavy as fuck.
Meanwhile, Joe Schilling is about to fucking throw down.
brendan schaub
Let's do this, Schilling.
joe rogan
Right now.
Stitch him up.
This is a big, big fight.
And the guy he's fighting, Jason Willness, is a fucking beast.
Willness is nasty.
Really, really hard striker, man.
brendan schaub
Your boy Schilling's flexing there.
I'm not mad at it either.
joe rogan
He's flexing a little bit.
brendan schaub
He's bodied up.
joe rogan
He's pretty yoked.
brendan schaub
Bodied up.
joe rogan
This is a good one.
It's a good matchup.
Youngster.
brendan schaub
24. Yeah.
joe rogan
24 and nasty, dude.
He's real good.
brendan schaub
Man.
Yeah, that welterweight division's tough.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is tough.
brendan schaub
How's Hendricks do at 185?
How's he match up at 185?
joe rogan
I don't like it.
Okay, you got to go to the champ.
You go to the top of the heap.
brendan schaub
Will you scroll down to middleweight for me, Jamie?
joe rogan
Whenever you do that, you go to the top of the heap.
How does he match up with the champ?
brendan schaub
Not so good.
Other than that, I like him.
I like him.
joe rogan
Please.
How does he match up with Luke Rockhold?
Not so good.
How does he match up with Jacare?
Not so good.
How does he match up with Yo Romero?
Not so good.
brendan schaub
Ooh, I disagree.
joe rogan
Yoel Romero?
brendan schaub
I think he beats Yoel Romero at 185. Oh my god, are you crazy?
joe rogan
That one hurts my feelings.
brendan schaub
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yoel Romero was a monster.
He's so much bigger.
brendan schaub
Has never been a UFC champ.
Yeah, he's bigger.
joe rogan
Did you see what he did to Leota Machida in his last fight?
brendan schaub
I did.
unidentified
He did.
brendan schaub
Fuck my boy.
joe rogan
He's a monster.
brendan schaub
He's a monster.
Johnny Hendricks is a monster.
How dare you?
joe rogan
He is, but at 170. Johnny Hendricks is 5'8".
brendan schaub
He's small.
joe rogan
He's 5'8".
brendan schaub
He's small.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, when I stand next to him in the octagon and I have shoes on, I'm taller than him.
If I'm taller than you, you can't fight Yoel Romero.
That's just how the rules are.
brendan schaub
Bro, you and Kallen on this height thing.
joe rogan
Well, no, I'm short.
What about DC? I'm short.
I'm just saying.
brendan schaub
DC's tiny fucking dudes up.
joe rogan
But DC's big in a different way.
I don't think Hendrix is that big.
I think Hendrix just carries too much body fat.
I think Hendrix at 170 could 100% be the champ again.
100%.
brendan schaub
I agree, 100%.
For sure, figure it out.
joe rogan
Hendricks, when he's on...
I mean, you gotta look at his knockouts of Martin Kampman and John Fitch.
He's a fucking monster when he's on.
I mean, you always have to look at a guy, though, based on his last fight.
That's the unfortunate thing about fighting.
They always say, you're only as good as your last fight.
Well, his last fight, I thought he fought pretty fucking good.
But then his fight that was supposed to be his last fight, he didn't make the weight.
That's where the controversy lies.
The controversy lies in his lack of discipline and coming into training camp heavy more than once.
I mean, not learning his lesson.
When he came in super fit for the Matt Brown fight, looked great, said he got a hold of his meal prep.
brendan schaub
It's tough to argue.
joe rogan
This fight, he came into camp 10 pounds heavier than his last camp, according to Dolce.
10 pounds is a lot, man.
brendan schaub
He didn't work with Dolce for this camp, though.
joe rogan
Right, but Dolce knows what he came in at.
What he came in at this camp versus what he came in at the last camp.
Everybody knows it.
I mean, they've all admitted it.
He admitted it when he talked about when his camp went wrong.
He talked about it, and then you've got to get a kidney stone.
brendan schaub
At this level, man.
joe rogan
At this level.
brendan schaub
At this level, what the fuck are we doing?
joe rogan
He might have an eating disorder.
You know, we were talking earlier about being addicted to shit.
He might be addicted to eating.
brendan schaub
I might be addicted to eating, then.
If he is, I am.
joe rogan
Well, his discipline, the discipline of being a fighter, you know, it might be so overwhelming that when he's not doing it, he's just gorgeous.
brendan schaub
Blows the fuck up.
Dude, you don't get to this level without having discipline.
I don't know what the fuck's going on there.
joe rogan
Discipline and addiction sometimes are next door neighbors.
brendan schaub
Got that middleweight division.
joe rogan
Here we go.
Joe Schilling, Jason Willness.
Here we go.
brendan schaub
Come on, Mr. Schilling.
joe rogan
Do you get nervous when your friends fight?
brendan schaub
Fuck yes.
Fuck yes.
joe rogan
Me too.
Always.
brendan schaub
Always.
unidentified
All day.
brendan schaub
Always.
joe rogan
No way around it.
brendan schaub
Nope.
joe rogan
It's just part of...
brendan schaub
It's the worst.
joe rogan
It's part of the sport.
brendan schaub
I can't imagine my family watching me fight.
joe rogan
How about if your son was fighting?
unidentified
Can you imagine that?
brendan schaub
Imagine if your daughter starts fighting.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
brendan schaub
Your daughter's next Ronda Rousey.
joe rogan
Whoa!
Jason Walsh, nice leg kick.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Nice spinning back fist, but showing.
Schilling's a bad motherfucker, dude, especially at kickboxing.
Kickboxing is his shit.
His defense is tighter at kickboxing.
brendan schaub
His movement's nasty as fuck.
joe rogan
Oh, he's excellent.
And when he doesn't have to worry about being taken down, then he gets loose.
unidentified
Get loose.
joe rogan
Oh, he's a bad motherfucker.
He looks so much better at kickboxing.
brendan schaub
Way better.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He looks like a world champion.
brendan schaub
Just be the best in the world at this.
Fuck MMA. Let's go run this, Joe, if you're listening.
joe rogan
We assume he wins.
He's still fighting Jason Wellness.
Look at that, see?
Wellness is no joke.
But goddamn, Joe looks aggressive.
brendan schaub
First of all, Wellness's defense is nasty.
joe rogan
It is, but Joe Schilling is lighting him up with those front kicks to the body, too.
Boom, there's another one, son.
brendan schaub
Damn, your boy Schilling has a smoke shop sponsor.
joe rogan
He likes the weed.
unidentified
Oh, that kick was nasty.
joe rogan
Damn, Schilling is eating him up, though.
brendan schaub
Damn, Schilling has Affliction sponsored, too.
joe rogan
Damn, Affliction's still alive?
brendan schaub
Affliction said, God damn it, Reebok.
joe rogan
The one guy died, and they got rid of Tom Atencio, so who the fuck is Affliction now?
brendan schaub
Someone bought him out, just like they bought out Tap Out.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's interesting.
brendan schaub
Bro, I used to rock those Affliction shirts with like fucking silver and angel wings and it said like fade around the back and shit.
joe rogan
Well, I was friends with Atencio and I liked what he did for fighters.
He sponsored a lot of fighters.
brendan schaub
A ton, yeah.
joe rogan
And I supported them because of that.
Like I didn't It wasn't that much.
It was just a little bit, but in my mind, I thought it was a good idea to support a company that was giving fighters a lot of money.
They were sponsoring a lot of fighters, and they put together that Affliction MMA card and gave people a shitload of money.
Damn, Joe Schilling looks good.
brendan schaub
They fucked up on that card, though.
They put all their money on that one card, and it was so dope.
That card was stacked.
joe rogan
Damn, Schilling looking real loose, dropping his hands, moving light.
brendan schaub
His footwork's ridiculous.
joe rogan
And Willness looks real frustrated.
He's kind of paralyzed him, man.
brendan schaub
He's not doing anything.
He might just be weathering the storm.
joe rogan
He might be.
brendan schaub
Or he might be.
joe rogan
Is this five rounds?
Do they go five rounds because it's the title?
brendan schaub
I was just going to ask you that.
joe rogan
It's a good question because it's the main event.
Damn.
Joe Schilling with the movement.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
Looking good.
Nice right hand there.
brendan schaub
Is Schilling married?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he's got a woman.
He's got some kids.
I think he's engaged or something.
brendan schaub
Basically married, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, basically.
What's going on?
What happened?
Referee stepped in, stopped something, warned something.
I don't know what happened.
Damn, throwing them front kicks.
When you're a tall fighter like that, those front kicks to the body are really nice.
brendan schaub
Yeah, huge advantage.
joe rogan
It's a nice option.
brendan schaub
Tough to counter that, man.
joe rogan
Good defense here by Schilling, too.
He's just a different animal when he's kickboxing.
brendan schaub
He's confident.
joe rogan
He's confident.
It's a sport.
His defense is way better with those big gloves.
He's, like, super used to it.
brendan schaub
Can also risk more.
joe rogan
Yep, and he's not worried about being taken down, so he can do his shit.
unidentified
Don't have to talk him into fighting while he's kickboxing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, give me an hour with him.
joe rogan
Look at this, man.
Goddamn, he's looking good.
Boom.
Bang, bang.
One, two.
brendan schaub
Definitely won that round.
joe rogan
I like how he's throwing the straight right and then a hard jab behind it, too.
You know, like after that right hand, like a lot of MMA fighters especially, they'll pull back and then look for either another right hand or whatever.
He's stepping in hard with that jab.
brendan schaub
Tell you what I don't like, that Magnus Arena not very full.
Come on.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I don't think this sport gets the attention that it deserves.
You know, as excited as you and I were for this fight and this card, like, to me, this is like an opportunity to watch high-level fighting.
Like, whether or not it's MMA or kickboxing.
I like, like, I think...
The ultimate sport is MMA. It always will be the ultimate sport, but when I want to watch the best expression of striking technique, there's certain shit that you only see when you watch Muay Thai or you only see when you watch kickboxing, and this is it right here.
brendan schaub
Like, these kind of duke it out I love me some glory kickboxing, but I don't get as excited or crunk for this as I do for a main event in the UFC. It's a different kind of excitement.
joe rogan
Well, I do because Joe's my friend and I support him, but I feel ya.
But if you're watching the very best guys in the world go at it in any discipline, it's fun.
Whether it's boxing.
You watch Manny Pacquiao vs.
Mayweather, it's still fun.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
Dude, wrestling.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
The top world...
You know what I'm saying?
The best of the best wrestling is even fun to watch.
joe rogan
But I think this is way better than boxing.
I really do.
I think this is...
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Big left hand from Joe Schilling.
God damn!
Dude, he looked so fucking good tonight.
He is on it, man.
He is all over it tonight.
brendan schaub
Nasty left hook.
I bet he comes in ferocious.
joe rogan
Well, he just looks so smooth.
Everything looks smooth.
His defense, everything.
brendan schaub
He's not wasting anything, is he?
joe rogan
No, no.
He's fighting nice.
He's fighting very nice.
Very light on his feet.
Never standing stationary.
Mixing shit up very well.
Damn.
I like how he's moving out and in well.
He lifts up for a front kick and then punches you in the face.
brendan schaub
And then he's out.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't know what the fuck is going on.
brendan schaub
What's Rashad's boy?
He's cornering him.
joe rogan
Tyrone Spawn.
brendan schaub
Yeah, what's his deal?
joe rogan
He's a monster.
brendan schaub
I know he's asking Dana White for a fight.
joe rogan
He wants money.
He's like, I want to be paid what I deserve.
He's one of the best strikers on the planet Earth.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
He's like, if I'm going to fight in MMA, he goes, I want to be treated like I get treated in kickboxing.
brendan schaub
They're trying to give him that basic-ass contract.
joe rogan
What are they saying to...
The kick go low or something like that?
I don't know what they're offering him.
I don't know what they're offering him.
I really have no idea.
brendan schaub
He just needs the exposure.
joe rogan
Are they going to take a point away here?
What's going on?
Low kick?
Nope.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Back in.
brendan schaub
Definitely a warning.
joe rogan
They walk you around, say one point, one point, right, when they take a point away?
unidentified
Yeah, they lift your hand up.
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
He rocked him again!
brendan schaub
I feel like Schilling got...
joe rogan
Jason Wilmets throws hard shots, dude.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Fuck!
Oh, shit!
Oh, shit!
Schilling's holding on, man.
He got cracked.
That was a big, big, big punch by Willness.
Oh, my God.
He got hit again.
Oh, fuck!
He got hurt.
He got hurt from the right hand.
Willness is all over him.
He's got a cling.
He's got to clear the cobwebs right now.
He's got to clear the cobwebs.
That's the scary thing about Willness, man, is that KO power.
Joe gets that clinch.
Dude, he got hurt bad.
He got hurt bad in this round.
brendan schaub
I see a powerful Matt Brown in the crowd.
He does his camps there now.
joe rogan
Does he?
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
At Elevation?
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Is everybody going to go to Elevation?
That Muscle Farm's coming with that cash?
brendan schaub
I think so.
joe rogan
Rampage is one of the first guys to go there, right?
He did early camps there.
brendan schaub
He did a camp there when they first opened up, but he didn't move there.
joe rogan
Oh, we got hurt again!
unidentified
Damn, wellness hits hard, dude.
brendan schaub
Someone lost their mouthpiece.
It's your boy.
joe rogan
Is it?
brendan schaub
Pretty sure.
It's a tight move, though, because you get a break.
That move...
Oh, it's the end of the round.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I don't think it's the end of the round, dude.
brendan schaub
Yeah, see?
You get that break.
Damn, your boy lost that round.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Did he, though?
Didn't he knock him down earlier in the round, though?
brendan schaub
Nah, not really.
That was the first round.
joe rogan
Was it?
brendan schaub
Boom!
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
brendan schaub
Was that this round?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
The very beginning?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
God, that's tough, man.
joe rogan
So that's better.
That knockdown's bigger.
Because Schilling was a...
Yeah, that's bigger.
Yeah, he was wobbled, too.
That was a real knockdown, dude.
That was a legit knockdown.
brendan schaub
You don't think that's an even round?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
Because he knocked him down.
brendan schaub
Your boy Schilling got fucked up two times.
joe rogan
He got tagged.
He got tagged for sure.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
But look, he used good defense and clinched up.
Knockdowns in kickboxing are big, dude, just like knockdowns in boxing.
They're like a takedown in MMA? It's not like an MMA fight where you get rocked.
Like, if a guy gets dropped in an MMA fight and another guy lands, fights, punches like that, that's a hard fight to score.
Maybe it's a 9-9 round?
brendan schaub
That's what I'm saying, 9-9.
joe rogan
It could be 9-9, but the knockdown is big, dude, because I wouldn't give him a 10-8.
What's going on?
The fight's over?
What's happening?
brendan schaub
What did he do, break his foot?
joe rogan
Oh, shit, Joe Schilling won.
What happened?
brendan schaub
He broke his foot.
joe rogan
Did he break his foot?
unidentified
Oh, wow.
brendan schaub
Oh, man.
That's a bummer.
That was a good fight.
Good for Joe Schilling, though.
joe rogan
Congrats to Joe Schilling, but after having a round like that where he had Schilling in all kinds of trouble.
brendan schaub
That's a bummer.
joe rogan
That's a big victory for Schilling.
He broke his ankle, man.
He broke his foot or his ankle.
Something's broken.
brendan schaub
No shit.
I'm surprised that hasn't happened all the time.
joe rogan
Wow.
Yeah, he's fucked.
Shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, if he's hurting right now with the adrenaline.
joe rogan
That happened to Yair Rodriguez in the first round of his fight.
brendan schaub
That fucking kid.
joe rogan
Two rounds like that, moving and shaking.
brendan schaub
Dude, I text you.
Can you imagine that kid's champ from Mexico?
What?
With his personality and his style?
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
Dude.
I'm texting congrats.
To Joe Schilling.
Yeah, Yair's a bad motherfucker, dude.
He's so exciting.
brendan schaub
He's so versatile.
His jiu-jitsu?
joe rogan
What?
Yeah, everything.
His jiu-jitsu's nasty.
His takedown defense is excellent.
brendan schaub
It's getting better.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
It's getting better.
joe rogan
It's excellent for a guy who throws kicks like he does, though.
He's throwing wild shit all the time.
brendan schaub
He's at Jackson's now, too.
joe rogan
Is he?
unidentified
Ooh.
brendan schaub
Trying to work on his wrestling.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
That's a good move.
There's a bunch of really good high-level camps right now.
It's such a good time.
brendan schaub
Such a good time for MMA. And guys aren't sparring as much.
It's good.
It's a great time for MMA. It's a great time for 205. How exciting is 205?
joe rogan
It's crazy.
MMA and not just the UFC, but even Bellator.
If you look at some of the guys they have, there's some talent all throughout across MMA now.
Here's a problem.
Who the fuck is Fedor going to fight?
brendan schaub
Didn't they announce he's fighting some 1-0 dude?
joe rogan
Come on.
brendan schaub
I'm pretty sure they announced he's fighting a 1-0 guy, and then they reneged it.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
I'm almost positive I saw that.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
brendan schaub
This could be bro science.
This could be MMA science.
I might be lying.
joe rogan
There's that left hand again he dropped him with.
But this is big, dude.
unidentified
Boom!
brendan schaub
That's right on the money.
joe rogan
Dude, he caught him on the money.
brendan schaub
And then he rocked him again.
joe rogan
He fought smart there, covering up.
Oh, he rocked him a couple times after that.
And that's it.
Third round.
Couldn't come out.
brendan schaub
Good for Schilling.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's got to be a giant relief for him, too, after that second round.
That second round, that was scary.
He showed a good chin though, man.
brendan schaub
Speculation.
joe rogan
Especially for a guy that got knocked out in his last fight.
brendan schaub
See, opponent would be whatever, however the fuck he said.
joe rogan
Who's the opponent?
Nobuhushi Sakigabar.
brendan schaub
Does it say his record below that?
joe rogan
Ariana Hawane.
Make respect to the opponent.
No, that's trolling.
josh olin
Sing Jai Deep, they're trolling.
joe rogan
That's the internet, these silly fucks.
brendan schaub
Bro, that's MMA fighting.
joe rogan
Listen, that Sing Jai Deep guy, that is a guy that on my message board, they joke around about him being the big threat to Cain Velasquez.
He's this really overweight Indian guy.
It's a joke.
This is a troll.
brendan schaub
They're honeydicking.
joe rogan
They're trolling.
It's the internet.
Somebody trolled.
brendan schaub
That Aoki Sakuraba's for reals.
Aoki versus Sakuraba is for reals.
joe rogan
Oh, come on.
brendan schaub
I swear to God.
joe rogan
I thought Sakuraba was done.
brendan schaub
No, Kenny Florian was in Japan and rolled with Aoki.
He was like, who are you fighting next?
And he said, Sakuraba.
And Kenny's like, what?
It's a bummer, right?
joe rogan
Well, here's the problem.
Aoki can strike.
You know, I mean, Sakuraba's a bigger guy, but Aoki's striking is not that bad.
I think Sakuraba has so many miles on him.
brendan schaub
Dude, Aoki's striking compared to Sakura right now.
He's fucking Joe Schilling.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a bummer, man.
He's taken so many fucking beatings.
brendan schaub
He's had so many wars.
He comes out in ten braces.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I think if Aoki gets a hold of one of those old-ass ankles, he'll rip it off like Tails from the Crypt.
joe rogan
Well, I think grappling-wise, he's still very competent.
Grappling-wise.
Did you see him fight in Metamoras?
brendan schaub
Yeah, against Henzo?
joe rogan
Yeah, but, you know, he was able to go to a draw with Henzo.
brendan schaub
I agree, and Henzo's a monster and one of my favorite people to ever grace this earth.
However, Aoki, that's some shit, man.
joe rogan
He's much smaller, too.
He was fought at lightweight, whereas Sakuraba fought Conan in his first UFC fight.
brendan schaub
True.
Sakuraba's been through some shit.
joe rogan
Much bigger guy.
brendan schaub
He's been through some miles, man.
joe rogan
Dude, that fight, first of all, the Vanderlei knockouts were horrific.
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
Horrific.
And then the knockout that might have been even worse is the Melvin Manhoof one.
brendan schaub
Oof.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is an interesting fight.
Schilling knocked him down with the left hand, too.
The interesting thing about Schilling is, I think it was a straight left.
Schilling fights pretty good off both sides.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a freak striking wise, man.
joe rogan
Good fight, man.
It was a good fight.
Interesting.
It would have been interesting to see.
I'm super happy for Joe.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah, as long as you get a win.
If he's your friend, who gives a fuck how it happens?
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Exactly.
Alright, I'm going to the comedy store.
brendan schaub
Boom.
Get it done, dog.
joe rogan
End of round two.
Fighter and the Kid.
Fighter and the Kid.
What is your website?
brendan schaub
T-F-A-T-K dot com.
joe rogan
Listen, your fans are not bright enough to put all that together.
brendan schaub
It's basically T-F-A-T-K. T-F-A-T-K dot com.
joe rogan
T-F-A-T-K dot com.
brendan schaub
New shirts just dropped, son.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
Brendan Schaub on Twitter.
Didn't you guys have zombie versions of some of your shirts?
brendan schaub
Yeah, zombie versions.
unidentified
For Halloween.
joe rogan
Nice.
Marketing genius.
Booyah.
With a beautiful partner's hair.
All right, you fucks.
We'll be back next week.
We've got a star-studded lineup next week.
Next week's banging.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
Thanks for all the love, and we'll see you soon.
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