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Joe Rogan Experience #702 - Milo Yiannopoulos

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		My guest today is a fascinating character.
		A very, very unusual cat.
		Very good writer.
		His name is Milo.
		I hope I'm saying this right.
		Ioannopoulos.
		He's known as Nero on Twitter.
		That is his handle.
		He writes for Breitbart.
		Writes some really great stories.
		He's a funny dude.
		He's very unusual.
		And he was a fun guest.
		We had a lot of good time.
		He talks a lot.
		He might be on speed.
		I think he's on speed.
		Whatever.
		What am I to judge?
		Without any further ado, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Milo Iiannopoulos.
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joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Boom.
		Milo's only been here for five minutes.
		We've already discussed cocaine, radical feminism, radical progressives that want to take over the world, prescription drugs, tight shirts.
		We've gone the full gamut.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We have.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We really have.
		And it's fresh.
		It's young and fresh.
		We've already gone the full gamut.
		I found out about you.
		I guess it was somebody just, I get a lot of interesting stuff tweeted at me.
		And I read one of your Breitbar pieces.
		And I was like, check this motherfucker out.
		And then I found out that you're gay and you're a part of this gamer gate, but you were on the side of the people that were not the ultra progressives.
		And then you were in these debates against these radical feminism chicks and shutting them down.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And I was like, you were very kind about me.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You've played some videos.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look at this motherfucker.
		You're a unicorn.
		They don't like people like you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm not supposed to exist.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		According to the progressive rules of the universe, I should not be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're not supposed to be fairly buttoned down and conservative and fair.
		Well, also factually correct.
		Like all the stuff that you, the thing that I'd seen, you gotten in this argument about why certain women gravitate towards certain jobs and men gravitate towards jobs.
		And this idea that a lot of this is just cultural.
		A lot of this is something that we're pushing upon young men and not young women.
		And you were like, well, this isn't the case at all.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It isn't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's hilarious to watch someone confronted by, like, they expect that to come from a me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They expect it to come from some me headlining.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I feel like I ought to be supporting them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And on paper.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		On paper, I should.
		You know, I'm a metropolitan.
		Under other circumstances, I would be a liberal.
		I'm a homosexual.
		I listen, I like pop culture, you know, all of those things.
		I shouldn't really exist, but I do, unfortunately for them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		One-tenth of your tweets are about how fabulous your hair is?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, or black dick, you know, one of those things.
		Any of those subjects, you know, it's hair or, you know, the men that I'm into.
		It's very, very difficult for them to beat me for one simple reason, which is they've never been questioned.
		They've never been called on any of this stuff by anybody serious or anybody who doesn't conform to the progressive rules of identity politics.
		So when they come for me, their usual response from a feminist to anybody bringing facts or a serious counter-argument is simply to dismiss them as a sexist or a bigot or a misogynist.
		It's really tough to make that allegation against me.
		I love women.
		All my friends are women.
		I don't have a dog in the fight, sexually speaking.
		I don't care if, you know, I won't want to bang them whatever size they are, however they behave.
		So they don't have that over me.
		It's very, very difficult to come up against a guy that you cannot make a convincing argument of bigotry against.
		So you have to argue on the facts.
		And of course, the facts are on my side.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what the deal is.
		They can't dismiss you instantaneously because of what you represent.
		Because what you represent.
unidentified		They're like, well, look, we got the dirt on him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's gay and he's fabulous.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Shit.
unidentified		What are we going to do?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is the first thing.
		Once you start to hit the radar, you get calls from friends who say, so this person emailed me trying to check you out.
		This happened to me about a year ago.
		So I sort of hit, I've been a journalist for 10 years.
		I've done some good stuff, broken some big stories, but I never really kind of crossed over entertainment into the mainstream.
		It just started to happen about a year ago.
		And I started to get emails from friends, and they were saying, so what's going on here?
		People keep emailing me, asking me about you, like trying to ask, back in 2011, did he really do this?
		And what I realized is when they recognise you as a threat, when they identify you as somebody who could do them damage, they start going on maneuvers, trying to find out everything about you, trying to find out what the worst stuff they have on you is so that they can dismiss you as a bigot or a sexist or a neo-Nazi or whatever they can come up with.
		Anything they can grasp at.
		Because their strategy is to dismiss the speaker by attacking the speaker's credibility, because that way they never have to even consider the merits of the argument.
		They haven't been able to do that with me, which is why feminists now refuse to debate me on TV because they know they'll lose.
		They can't bring out, they've got this battery of dismissal tactics that they've amassed over the last 30 years.
		And they've got so complacent because they've never had a sassy gay person come up and say, you're talking bullshit and you're hurting men.
		And here are the facts.
		They've never had it before, so they've never built up an arsenal to fight it.
		So this is why I win and why I'll keep winning because they don't really know how to deal with an argument on its own merits.
		And in any case, of course, the facts are on our side.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's also this conversation that we're having right now is about war.
		You're saying winning and losing, and they're taking tactics and strategies to look up dirt on the opposition.
		They're treating this as an ideological war.
		It's not a debate about the facts of the issue.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And I think that's part of it, because the left has always seen this as a war, and the gender warriors have always been warriors.
		They've always seen this in strategic terms.
		I'm not sure.
		Conservatives are naturally more self-effacing.
		Conservatives tend to be a little bit cool, a little bit more chill about things.
		They kind of don't really want to get involved in the world.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you really believe that, though?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How do you explain Ted Cruz?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think they get very angry about things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How do you explain Ted Cruz?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not saying all conservatives.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How do you explain, what's her name?
		The Palin check.
		Sarah Palin.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		How do you explain that?
		These are the outliners that even Mike Huckabee.
		Even most conservatives find these people a bit much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Mike Huckabee, I think that guy's in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't he in?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Who knows?
		He's so much fatter now.
		He was hot when he ran last time.
		Well, ish.
		I mean, you know, for that cushy TV gig.
		He got so fat.
		He got so fat.
		I can't vote for anyone that fat.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not enough rock and rolling.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I want Marco Rubio just because he's hot.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If we can't have Trump, then I won't regret.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that, I think people are silly.
		And they're not very good at looking at the momentum of their actions.
		They just think that they're right because this is what they've been saying for so long.
		And I think that's one of the most horrific things about these conversations that these women get in with you about because when they're talking about what they think are social constructs, things like gender identities and the way people be, and when you shatter that with the facts, they're looking for some other weapons and there's nothing there.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And you see it in their eyes, you know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, because it's not really a debate about the idea itself.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just not.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What it's not.
		What it's about is gender warfare.
		That's why people like Christine Hofsomers call them gender warriors, because these aren't people who want any kind of social justice, as they say.
		These are people who just hate men.
		They hate men.
		They want to hurt men.
		They don't want equality for women.
		They want superiority for women, whether it's architected into the education system or affirmative action or whatever it is.
		They don't want equality.
		They want superiority.
		And fundamentally, a lot of this, these crazy extremist progressive third-wave feminists, today's version of feminism, it basically boils down to misandry.
		And it takes a gay guy, because it's so dangerous for men to even broach this subject anymore.
		And any man with a mainstream job puts that at risk by even talking on the subject, no matter what his opinion is.
		It takes a gay guy to go on Sky News in the UK and say, I'm sorry, the facts are not on your side, and what you're doing is damaging to women.
		It's, to me, really an indictment on debate in our public square that it is so dangerous for a man to even express an opinion on this subject that it takes a fag to go and stick up for heterosexuals.
		I mean, you know, if other men could say this, they would be, but they can't because they risk their careers.
		Feminists are always talking about silencing.
		Many people I see silenced are men.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that is true.
		There's a lot of doxing and going after people and a lot of anger when it comes to all this stuff.
		But I think what you have in many cases, when you see this kind of like disjointed, illogical sort of way of thinking, I think you have people that are assholes that find a cause that gives them the green light to be an asshole.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've written about this.
		I agree with you.
		I think no disrespect to any particular church, but I think it's reasonable to say 50 years ago, if you were a bully, if you were a sociopath, you wanted to take out on other people, you wanted to wreak harm on the world that you thought would hurt you, a reasonably good way of doing that would be to join the clergy.
		And many people did.
		And I think most of us who are religious, who have religious families, know stories like that.
		These days, you're better off getting a job at Gawker.
		If you want to bully somebody, if you really want to hurt them, if you have some sort of internal chaos or damage and you want to impose order on the world outside because you feel so confused and broken and messy, the best way to do it today is to become a social justice warrior.
		Because not only do you get the same kind of status in society the clergy would have done 50 years ago, but you also get media platforms.
		You get money.
		You get approval.
		You get applause.
		And if you layer on these new tactics of fake abuse and fake harassment and these terrible men coming for me on the internet with stuff, you can make quite a lot of money too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can form a Patreon page.
		What is that?
		It's like a crowdfund me for my ideas.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like, so in the old days, you'd have patrons of the arts, and they would be a prince or some rich guy, or maybe a little later in history, it would be a mercantile patron, in the way that many industrialists and bankers still give a lot of money to their local opera house or something like that.
		So Patreon is a way of turning that open into crowdfunding.
		So your patron becomes a load of people, all of whom give you a little bit of money.
		So it's, in theory, quite a respectable and interesting way of funding the arts.
		In principle, there's nothing wrong with it, but it seems to become colonized by people who are raising money on the basis of sympathy rather than anything they actually create.
		So what I've noticed in my reporting on this is the vast majority of people begging for money on Patreon, as far as I can tell, I'm sure Patreon will tell me most of the money on their platform goes to creative projects, but as far as I can tell, it's people bleating for sympathy, fishing for empathy.
		There's a lot of women on there claiming to be, you know, claiming that their lives are being ruined by men.
		You actually look into it.
		I can't find the tweets they're talking about.
		And it's a way for, I mean, there's this And I'm going to remember it wrongly, but it's something along the lines of, every day on the internet, some goony beard man promises to be nice to a social justice warrior in the hope of a wank or the hope of a blowjob or something like that.
		And it's these guys who just sort of throw a fiver or throw a tenner a month, $20 a month to this video games developer who's never produced anything in her life, but claims she's getting harassed and claims she's getting threats.
		It's a very, very weird psychological dynamic.
		And I think it's quite...
		And most of these women are not really to blame.
		These aren't horrible sociopathic warmongers.
		These aren't people who really hate men.
		They're just a bit miserable.
		And they've reached for the nearest victimhood script available to them because we live in a culture where victimhood is the most valuable currency that you can amass.
		And so they go out, they advertise what a terrible life they have and how awful people are to them on the internet.
		And they ask men, mainly it's women asking for money from men, effectively for sympathy dollars.
		It's incredibly demeaning.
		It's incredibly to the human spirit, aside from anything else.
		You're basically telling these women that they have more value as whingers and liars and gender warriors than they do as creators or mothers.
		I find that hugely destructive.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think that what we're talking about as far as people that are assholes that just latch on to a cause.
		And then that if you go to their page, there's so many of them that write blogs and you go to their blog and their blog is just an attack blog.
		It's just consistent attacks on people that don't share their ideas or have differing ideas.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I've coined a term for this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I've coined a term for this quantum superstate feminism.
		And it is feminism that exists at once as aggressor and victim.
		It is simultaneously and at all times aggressor and victim.
		And it describes these women who go out lobbing shit at people and then instantly turn into damsels in distress when they see their own language returned in kind.
		Quite often returned at greater volume because what they're saying is ridiculous and offensive and people get annoyed about it, perfectly reasonably.
		And also if you create an environment in which it's fine to say anything you want about men, it's fine to say kill all white men.
		It's fine to publish articles in mainstream new media publications about how to hurt men and all the rest of it.
		Sort of stuff the Jezebel hooks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who is the woman recently, the Google Ideas woman that had that tweet about she eats men for breakfast?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think you're talking about Randy Hoffer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you imagine if a guy wrote that down, I eat women for breakfast?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, do you know some men do speak to women like that?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Like some of the men's rights activists.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		On Twitter?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, but do you know why men's rights activists are so rude to women?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because they're assholes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
		What they're doing is, you know, women have for 30 years said, treat us like men.
		We're just like men.
		We're just the same.
		Treat us like men.
		We can do everything that men can do.
		You can do everything that men can do.
		Men's rights activists just take them at their word.
		And taunting is how men bond.
		Yeah, but you're fucking wrong now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's not what they're doing.
		That's not what they're doing.
		They're not trying to bond with these women.
		They're trying to hurt them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think what they're doing is taking at face value this demand for us to treat women, I say us, for them to treat women just like they would their buddies down the pub.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you've ever actually been to a pub when you're hearing men like out playing snooker or whatever, they're fucking awful to each other.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I don't want to buy that.
		I think they're doing exactly the same thing they don't want these women doing.
		Everyone's just being a cunt.
		They just take away the gender.
		Men are being cunts, women are being cunts.
		People are reaching through these internet lines trying to hurt each other.
		That's what they're doing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think it's true.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And I'm not totally on board with the whole meninist men's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not into this.
		I don't buy it up for a second.
		I think anybody who spends so much time working on their approval of their own gender, we're supporting our own gender.
		There's a lot of dudes that are pieces of shit.
		There's a lot of women that are assholes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think part of the problem is that they sort of become feminists in reverse, and they use the same tactics.
		They like to charge police.
		They also, I mean, it's amazing.
		You go on some of these communities in Reddit, and you read some of these blogs, and they're sort of, you know, they're like fainting couch men's rights activists.
		Okay, so I have a friend, Julie Bendle, who's very, very funny.
		She's a lesbian.
		She's basically this dyke feminist.
		She hates men.
		She made this joke.
		And it's kind of like the sort of joke I would make.
		She said, you know, we should put all men in internment camps.
		They could have visitation once a month.
		You know, we'll have guards and they could just stay in camps until they learn how to behave.
		If I'd said that about women, the whole manosphere, as it were, would be like applauding.
		They'd think it was hilarious.
		But because she said it in a similar level of jest, you know, suddenly it was this disgusting, outrageous thing.
		You know, feminists says men should be put in concentration camps.
		And I was like, bitches, really?
		Are you fucking kidding me?
		This is exactly what feminists do.
		You are taking a joke, like, you're taking a joke, you're pretending to take it seriously, and then you're starting an outrage circus about it.
		And I was like, for fuck's sake, I am out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's recreational outrage.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
		Yes, it is what it is.
		Isn't that what this is supposed to be like fighting against?
		You know, I'm in this because I'm like a cultural libertarian, as my colleague Alan Bukhari puts it.
		You know, I believe in classical liberalism, freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of expression.
		You know, I don't care what you believe.
		I just want you to have, I want to be able to interrogate your ideas in the public square.
		But, you know, this outrage circus that so many men seem to be getting involved in, and the way they treat, you know, they call circumcision male genital mutilation.
		I'm like, go for it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But wait a minute, isn't it?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're cutting your baby.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're one of those, are you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But no, I'm just saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it is.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Look, I'm going to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, it's cutting skin.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm in favour of it purely on aesthetic grounds.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I can understand that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to have these things in my mouth, okay?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I can understand.
		From your point of view, I can understand that.
		From the baby, I think the baby should be able to make skin.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's much more painful if you have it on later in life.
		No, I have a...
		I have a view I know lots of men don't like on this issue, and it's simply that, you know, it's just good grooming, frankly.
		Women go under the...
		Women go under the knife and have boob jobs and all the rest of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		White stopping.
unidentified		White carb men, make their penises attractive.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sexual procedure that comes close to the numbers of babies that get circumcised.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's done to female girls.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure one of these people.
		I mean, I just know.
		I think these circumcised girls like Bertha's, they're just weird.
		But I think I'm in the minority here.
		I'm sorry to offend you, but I think I'm in the minority here, but I just can't imagine why any man wouldn't want lots and lots of really good blowjobs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, apparently it feels better when the skin is on.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's so much better.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How do you know unless you've done both?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, because I've got feedback from...
		Put it this way.
		I've got a large sample size.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You just like the way they look better when it's all trimmed up nice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So does every other woman, which just choice based a lot on what we're used to having it done later in life.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's not nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Good, they should suffer.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you're fucking dumb enough to get your dick skin cut off when you're 30, I hope it hurts.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We can't agree on this.
		You don't have to suck one of these things, okay?
		That's all I'm going to say.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If I'd leave it there, I would like to believe that I have the same approach that I do to vaginas.
		Like if a girl had a big vagina lips, I wouldn't say, you know, you shouldn't get that shit cut off.
		I think the way it looks now is horrifying.
		No, leave it there.
		That's what it is.
		It is what it is.
		It's like big nipples.
		Like, you're going to get them shrunk down?
		That's fucking barbaric.
		It's all in the mind, you know?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, people aren't scrupulously.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Cutting baby's dicks is stupid.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, for God's sake.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a baby's dick.
		You don't have to cut his dick.
		You know how many kids lose their dicks every year because of infections and because of the surgery goes wrong?
unidentified		A lot.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I can't win if you're going to take this view.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If you're going to take this line, like cutting babies' dicks, I can't win against that one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's what it is, though.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A surgical procedure.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm happy to be in the minority.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		An aesthetically pleasing surgical procedure.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know what, all you motherfuckers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Baby cutting.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		All you motherfuckers out there who want to keep your foreskin, right?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to give these world-class blowjobs to the Jews instead.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations on your world-class blowjobs.
		My favorite story was my least favorite story, but my favorite story to bring up was a mole in New York who had herpes.
		And when they cut the baby's dick in the traditional way, they actually suck on the baby's penis to stop the bleeding.
		Have you ever seen this?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I've seen this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever heard articles about this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Read things about this?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And the kid died because the kid got herpes from the rabbi, the moil, whatever the fuck his name is.
		Pretty horrific.
		What a great idea.
		Cutting baby dicks.
		That kid could have grown up to solve cancer or give you head.
		One of those things.
		Either one of them could be awesome.
		Meanwhile, nope, dead baby.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think anyone's going to disagree with you on that particular issue.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't cut baby dicks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But how the fuck did we get on baby dicks?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I just don't know, but it was inevitable.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, look, there's absolutely a bunch of horrible shit that happens to women on a daily basis.
		I mean, every time you see these fucking Cosby stories, these women that are coming out of nowhere about Bill Cosby, when women talk about worrying about being drugged, and if you don't know anybody that's actually happened to, or someone close to that's actually happened to you, that danger doesn't seem real.
		But you see this Bill Cosby thing, and you're like, not only is it real, it's like, here's the guy that was America's the voice of morality for a generation.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He was the guy.
		There's become such a mania, a moral panic, like moral panics in history about this stuff, that the genuine victims are starting to be disbelieved.
		And this is driven by, I'm sorry to say, kind of the sort of progressive narrative over fact kind of journalism.
		Sabrina Erdely in Rolling Stone.
		All these rapes we hear about, they all seem to unravel within a couple of months.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was the...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Patrick's Girl at Columbia didn't happen.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Duke La Crosse didn't happen.
unidentified		All these things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A lot of things have happened.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Naturally, well, yes, but we should be working out how to solve and prevent these crimes better.
		And the way to do that is not to stage a moral panic in the media, pointing fingers at innocent people.
		And when you, as was clearly the case with Rolling Stone, sort of sweep under the carpet facts or omissions that throw doubt on your story, because you think this is just something we should be talking about anyway.
		Whether the specific case, whether we have the details around the specific case, what happens is when these rape stories or whatever it is get successive rape stories get repudiated and debunked, it undermines confidence and trust in anyone who makes that complaint.
		Anyone who says, this happened to me.
		In the back of their head, I think perfectly reasonably, people are thinking, oh yeah, another one.
		You know, it's not a nice thing, but this can be the effect of immoral panic in the media.
		It damages the real victims the most.
		And that's why I've written about this stuff in the past.
		I think it's also why it's really important to tell the truth about statistics.
		Now, feminists always have a complicated relationship with the truth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A big one is the one in four women who have been raped.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this goes all the way up to Obama.
		Every time you hear it, it seems to get worse.
		But I think if we extrapolate out, it's going to be like 50 women in five gets raped within a second of stepping on campus by 2025.
		It gets worse every time.
		It's based on ridiculous studies.
		I mean, the way this thing started, I think, Christina Hoffsommers at the American Enterprise Institute, who I always cite because she's so fantastic, and so on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's another unicorn.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So on point about the female.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		March feminist lady who hates feminism.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		She's clever, and she does have some problems with contemporary feminism and gender warriors.
		She does a great series, The Factual Feminist.
		I'm sure a lot of you have seen already.
		But she sort of tracked down the original study for this, which was a sample size of about 70 people and an adult education college, which is so completely alien in character.
		I mean, these people are like 20 years older.
		And of course, adult education colleges, there is a different set of social issues that go along with adult education college than 20-year-olds, undergrads, what do you call them, freshmen, doing a regular degree in college.
		Sample size was ridiculous.
		The university was atypical.
		And this has been extrapolated out to this feminist myth that just won't die, like the gender pay gap as well.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's also how they define...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's getting crazy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But in some universities, it is part of the university's conduct code that unwanted sexual advances, that means me saying, you're really pretty, can I buy you a drink, constitute sexual harassment.
		Now, this is just, you know, you have to close down every nightclub in the country.
		It's just extraordinary bonkers, you know, crazy stuff.
		And this is, you know, 30 years of unchallenged feminism, which is why I do what I do, because I think it matters.
		I think it's important.
		I talked to a guy who's 20 years old, you know, our age, right?
		I don't know how old you are, I guess, you know.
		Okay, fine.
		So, I mean, like, you know, you're maybe my dad's, almost at my dad's generation, but anyone your age, even right down to my age, I'm 30.
		It would have been a bit ridiculous for us to say that, you know, society is architected against men.
		You know, when we were growing up, it just wasn't the case, and there's no point trying to pretend that it was.
		But I speak to boys all the time, and I've interviewed so many of them now, of about 20, who do go through life experiencing this extraordinary sort of architecture against them, whether it's being whacked on Adderall at school, or more women, you know, getting into university for no good reason, or women, in a Cornell 2015 study, showed that women have a two-to-one advantage going for a STEM job in academia, so being discriminated against because they don't have a vagina.
		20-year-old boys do have some serious problems now.
		And we risk not just one, but many lost generations of boys.
		I call this this exodus.
		I wrote a big two-part about this that I think a lot of people were very nice about and seemed to go down very well.
		Yeah, there's some really serious stuff to address here, which is one of the reasons I do what I do, because I think that's what journalism is supposed to be for, speaking up for people who don't have a platform themselves and that the establishment has lost sight of and doesn't care about anymore.
		But it's why I think it's important to tell the truth about statistics.
		You can't help victims if you lie in your first sentence about what the problem is.
		And there is not a systemic, problematic gender pay gap in the United States or in Europe.
		There is not an epidemic of rape culture on campus.
		There is not a problem in universities or with not enough women going into STEM, into science, technology, or mathematics subjects.
		All of these things have subtle and sophisticated explanations that when you take into account human nature and the different choices people make and what women want to do, you realize that this stuff is bunk.
		But many of these myths simply won't die.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you also have to take into consideration there's a bunch of other variables, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like women leaving because they have children and you have to factor that into the amount of income that they generate.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This stuff is based on a misunderstanding between earnings and pay.
		can't take all the men in society and all the women in society and do like a two two stage calculation and say right well there's 77 as much money on this side right right that's not what people mean when they say there's a page when you say that it's a page where you say that it's a And that's the phrase they use, to admance, Implying that women get paid less for the same work.
		That's the implication that they're making through all of this, because they're confusing earnings with wages, right?
		Earnings with pay.
		What actually happens is men work longer hours.
		Even when you control for children, men take fewer holidays, they take shorter holidays, they work longer hours, they make more money for their firms, all the rest of it.
		Men just work harder.
		They have longer careers, et cetera, et cetera.
		Women prefer, whether or not they have children, to have a more balanced life.
		They prefer not to work full-time.
		They like to work part-time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They have more of a balanced approach.
		Because, of course, there's outliers on both sides.
		We all know lazy, lazy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is the way the left argues, like not all women are giving me a break.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you know what I'm saying?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You have to speak in generalizations if you're going to be able to do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But isn't it problematic, though, to do that?
		Because there are.
		I mean, I think the term is statistically there are more men that are working longer hours, that are working harder, that generate more money.
		But to say, like, men do that, when we all know lazy fucks, it just happened to be a lot of fun.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, the reason I do it is that, the reason I phrase it exactly like that is that I don't want to, you know, let's not open up this whole not all men stuff that the left does, because that is the route into this sort of social conditioning argument, yeah?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is it not all men or is it just objective?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, the point I'm trying to make is that men generally have the following traits, right?
		And this is reflected in employment systems.
		This example is fine, but I mean, especially when it comes to lazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We've got so many lazy men.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
		There are some lazy men, but there are also men dropping out of society because they feel that there's just no place for them anymore.
		They've had what they consider to be their role in the family snatched away from them in the last two years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dropping out of the last two generations.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is this a real issue?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I think that men move.
		Again, I think your generation, my generation, sounds ridiculous, but I speak to 20-year-old boys all the time who are saying, I can't be bothered with women.
		You know, there's this movement, MGTOW, men going their own way.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but they're actually fuckers involved in the female.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They say that, but there's a lot of No, no, no, no.
		You see, you say that.
		10 years ago, we'll talk about five guys later.
		Ten years ago, sure.
		But today, the numbers are blossoming.
		They're blossoming.
		So fast.
		And, you know, the thing is, men deal reasonably well without women.
		They don't like to do it.
		Look, people like us are not going to want for sex, right?
		Because we're outgoing and ballsy and brash and self-confident and all the rest of it, right?
		We're not going to have too much of a problem.
		But there are plenty of men who don't have our self-confidence and who are being, you know, bullied and derided and ridiculed every day in the media.
		This stuff gets you.
		People get depressed about this stuff.
		This is a male suicide epidemic.
		It's huge.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But isn't it just a suicide epidemic across the board?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, the number of female suicides, I mean, it's different statistics, different countries, it differs slightly, but the female numbers aren't really changing.
		Women are getting more unhappy decade after decade, but they don't actually commit suicide.
		They never go through with it.
		When they try, they fail.
		They can't even commit suicide properly.
		Women are so incompetent, they can't even kill themselves properly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So when they get upset, they're forcing the men to kill themselves.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Women often write the suicide notes, and then they try to kill themselves and they fail.
		Or they bottle it at the last minute and call someone and say, I'm taking some pills.
		They never end up dead.
		But men just go quiet for a few days and then they just hang themselves.
		But those numbers are going up.
		The number of men who are just giving up on relationships, that number is going up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See, because then you're factoring in morons.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's not.
		It's not.
		Sorry, I just had a moment then.
		No, it's not your world.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, married kids.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, whatever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The whole deal.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't know what to do.
		I don't need to know what you get up to.
		But, you know, this is not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know what you're saying.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is not the case.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's going to be some unhappy people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it's not some unhappy people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is not the case for people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There are millions of men out there by themselves, just alone, just giving up.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They need you, so you should pay more attention to them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You should listen to them when they're speaking to you because they need people like you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Come on, man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is a small thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Is it really down to me?
		Is it going to be this fucking British queer who's going to stick up for these guys when even you won't stick up for them?
		Even you won't stick up for these men.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Toughen up, bitches.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is what they need to do.
unidentified		They don't need to be able to do that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What are you like to do?
		Drop out of society.
		Man's radio host in America.
		And you won't stick for a few minutes.
		Dead lips.
		God, what am I going to do?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Go camp outside.
		No cell phones.
		This is like a fucking man.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is why I have the fucking media beating down my door because even you guys won't stick up for men anymore.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can't just coddle them like that.
		If they really want to drop.
		Well, girl, it's too hard with girls.
		Dude, you can't.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm a total sociopath, but I still preach a little sympathy on this issue.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're not a total sociopath.
		How dare you?
		How dare you pose?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The feminists will call you that, though, right?
		Well, I think that's some terrible things, especially by the male feminists.
		Trying to get those social brownie points.
		Oh, I love them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I love them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the warm honey of the male feminists.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen favorite?
		Have you ever seen somebody in their Twitter profile?
		Hashtag feminists?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I usually don't write male feminists.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, just feminists.
		Just feminists.
		And I'm like, oh, God, how long has it been?
		I want to ask them, how long has it been?
		And they're like, two months.
		I'm like, no, no, how long has it been?
		Two years.
		That's it.
		That's the way you're a feminist.
		But what they don't understand is the kind of women they're sucking up to don't even want them.
		You know, women don't want men to speak about feminism.
		They don't want allies because no man's ever going to be good enough to speak about women's issues.
		This is the crux of identity politics.
		Modern feminists don't want men.
		They hate men.
		Stop sucking up to them.
		The only way you're going to get them is to neck them.
		The only way you're going to get them is to say, you are a ridiculous fucking whore, and I'm paying you no attention whatsoever.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And that's how you get them?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's worked for me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, that works that way.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Okay, maybe not that language, but you know, you're a ridiculous woman, I'm paying you no attention whatsoever.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And that key second part of the phrase, which is what I was really focusing on, that second part of that phrase, that's what makes them come running.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Subtle games.
		I'm calling a turkey.
		You've got to know how to.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right, exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got to know when to make the hen call.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't have skin in the game, you see, so I'm able to analyze these things dispassionately.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's some truth to that, certainly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's definitely some truth to that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Through a wise gay uncle, you know, who can just sort of, from a distance, can tell you what's happening.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's just pathetic to watch those poor men grovel.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just grovel for social brownie points.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And they're never going to get the hand job.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Never going to get it.
		It's not going to happen.
		But it's even that they can't see that it's not about feminism.
		It's not about masculinism either, if that's a word.
		It's about just people not being full of shit.
		People not, you know, just not crying victim when you're not really a victim.
		Not pulling the fucking fire alarm on a guy who's that Toronto thing where the guy was, they totally misrepresented the position of his book, misrepresented what his position was on women, period, and on men.
		And he was just essentially trying to highlight various issues some men have, and they were calling him to sorry.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, I quite like getting insults because I like to rate them.
		I give them marks out of 10.
		And then I go back to the troll and I explain how they could have made it better, how they could improve, you know?
		So I take them to troll school.
		And, you know, sometimes people will tell you good things, like go take a bath with a toaster, which is quite funny.
		Like, I like that.
		That's a good one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't work anymore.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People don't know how to circuits.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they don't want to circuit broke.
		Well, I like the joke anyway.
		And then sometimes it's just, you know, you deserve to die.
		Two out of ten.
		You know, come on, you can do better than that.
		No, but this is what they do.
		This is what they do.
		They insult and ridicule and demean and try to discredit the speaker.
		And if they can't do that, they will do some other kind of silencing or no platforming or whatever so that those opinions can never be allowed.
		They do not want those opinions ever aired in public because those opinions and the facts that underpin them, the reasoning that underpins them, which is what people go to these talks to hear, is so dangerous to the feminist narrative, which is basically based on feeling and not fact, based on bigotry and class and gender hatred, not any kind of sensible analysis of the way the world works.
		I've got so many invitations to universities for the next six months.
		And this isn't an advertisement to any feminists listening, but I know this is going to happen.
		And the talks go on anyway.
		It just takes up a whole day of your life instead of an afternoon.
		But I know it's going to happen.
		I'm speaking at university, I'm speaking to USC Republicans next week.
		I'm speaking to a bunch of UK and US universities over the next six months.
		And I just know what's coming.
		It's just so extraordinary.
		I'm like a harmless gay dude.
		I crack dick jokes on Twitter and I do Sky News now and again.
		And if I'm the scariest opponent that they have, they've got real problems.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you are because of what we highlighted earlier.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They can't be a single person.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I was kind of semi-joking all that shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Kind of semi-joking, but I'm not kind of.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, but bring your A-game and make your argument, for God's sake.
		And why is it that for the last 30 years they have been incapable or unwilling of actually making an argument?
		And instead, they do everything they can to simply get the speaker out of the public eye.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, because they exist in an echo chamber.
		I mean, I think that the forums that they go to, the Twitter groups that they...
		I read an article about this page.
		I went to his Twitter page and I was already blocked.
		I'd never even interacted with this channel.
		I was on a block list.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're on a block list.
		It's probably because you follow me.
		I seem to be sort of Voldemort for these guys.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've said a few controversial things myself.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It might just be my own controversial thing you've ever said.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What's the most controversial thing you've ever said, Tommy?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fucking, that would take a long time.
		We'd have to go through the internet.
		What kind of stuff they hate that you said?
		If you're a man, you call yourself a feminist.
		I hope you choke to death on vegan pizza while crying to a lady gaga song.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Is that controversial?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's upset with me.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Very upset with me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that controversial?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Is it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Talking about death.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I prefer they get raped with the pizza.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Male rape is not as bad as female rape, though, right?
unidentified		You could say that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, male raped with a pizza.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't seem as awful.
unidentified		It's not a musician.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Some of us go out in search of male rape.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's a comical thing to say, though.
		A man being raped by a pizza.
		Whereas if you said I hope a woman gets raped by a pizza.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's just as funny.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's just so stupid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, you see, I'll tell you what.
		You know what?
		I like that you find it horrible because it shows to me that chivalry is not dead.
		And you have a decent respect for women and for speaking about women properly.
		And I like that you're offended by, well, offended, but I like that you find it distasteful to speak of women in that way because it speaks well of you.
		I think what feminism has done has made it very difficult to be nice about women because they've created this environment where there's so much hate and bile and ridicule hurled at men.
		Men feel like they've got to respond in kind or just check out entirely.
		And it's the race.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what I don't buy.
		I think you have a very small minority of women who are not very attractive, who get really upset at men.
		And you deal with a lot of sociological shit when it comes to these really radical, anti-male feminists.
		A lot of it is a constant state of rejection.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But these are feminists.
		It has a disproportionate effect.
		What's on?
		These ugly women, who, by the way, there are all sorts of studies which I love, which show that ugly women are much more likely to be liberals.
		And of course they are ugly.
		Yeah, but it makes sense for all the reasons you would imagine.
		So they find feminism, or perhaps they start losing their looks in their 30s, so they slide back into feminism.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		40s.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		No, women are gone at 30.
		I like 20-year-olds.
		But it seems to be like gay aesthetic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They start re-questioning things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In their 40s, a lot of times they'll even go to yoga.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, what the statistics show is that women in their 30s, if they're still single, start to go a bit nuts.
		They report themselves as being generally more unhappy with life, more likely to have contemplated suicide, more likely to be depressed.
		Men can sort of retreat into porn and video games, but women get women, women go nuts if they're single in their 30s.
		Thanks to feminism.
		Some women.
		Yes, alright, not all women.
		You don't know, you've conceded so much ground already by allowing yourself to be taken over by this leftist clap.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nah, I'm just being objective.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nips.
		It's nonsense.
		It's a soft quantifier.
		When you say, like, you know, women are X, you mean most women are X. It is understood that you're speaking in generalities.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's annoying to women that aren't like that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, tough shit.
		Get over it.
		It is understood that you're speaking in generalities.
		Without generalities, it's impossible to communicate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It is a British thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not a British thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's just a not being a nitpicky dick thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's just a simple addition to that sentence.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Perfectly well understood.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		When you say that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There are many men who have gone like a snow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Men are leaving.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're leaving.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're leaving the lifestyle.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Language policing.
		You've given it over already.
		Language policing.
		You're halfway to feminism.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I had a buddy for a long time, and he was ugly.
		And because he used to get rejected all the time.
		And he started getting really fucking angry.
		And as he got older, we had to stop hanging out with him because he would meet girls.
		He would try to hit on them.
		They would say no.
		And he'd be like, fucking lesbians.
		He's fucking cunt lesbians.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's so easy to do with these.
		Just work out or be funny or get money.
		I mean, it's just, you know, any man can do at least one of those three.
		Anyone can work out.
		Anyone can learn to be funny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		During that process, during that process, you still have sexual needs.
		So he had not accomplished any of those goals.
		So he was not attractive to these women.
		And because he wasn't attracted to these women, I witnessed, over the course of knowing him for several years, I witnessed this misogyny grow inside of him.
		And it was based on the interactions that he had with women were all negative.
		The interactions he had with women, he came away feeling bad about himself, feeling rejected.
		And so he started to project that they were the root cause of this issue.
		I think you're dealing with a lot of the same thing with these feminists.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think the problem is that society has been architected in such a way that those outcomes, those rejections, are now not just the norm, but almost enforced by a woman's need to reject a man and to say, you know, look at this stuff, you know, unwanted advances of sexual harassment.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Basically what it means.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But those are the monsters, the monster women who are trying to push that.
		These aren't the monsters.
		It's such a small percentage of that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You grossly underestimate the influence these people have on not just debate in the media, but on policy in universities and even the government.
		Look at California.
		Yes means yes, affirmative consent laws.
		This stuff becomes law.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't make it lawyer.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This stuff becomes law.
		And when it starts in California, it spreads elsewhere.
		Every big American university has a ridiculous code of conduct that's got this stuff embedded in it.
		And it comes from the, you know, the, yes, it comes from the crazies.
		I admit, I willingly admit that most women are wonderful and they don't buy into this shit.
		And indeed, of course, in just, what is it, in just two years, from 28% of women down to 18% of women identify as feminists.
		Fewer than one in five women call themselves feminists because they see what we see, which is that these feminists are all misendrist, lesbianic, crazy people.
		Fine.
		But those misendrist, lesbianic, crazy people are affecting laws in this country and in my country.
		They're affecting conduct, codes of conduct at university that dictate a man's entire future and a woman's entire future for that matter.
		And the happiness and good sexual health and the destination of the species, the way that men and women interact with each other is becoming poisoned by these people.
		You grotesquely underestimate their influence if you write them off as a few mad crazies in student unions.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't underestimate their influence.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They are, but they have gigantic purchase on the media and therefore on politicians.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they certainly do when it comes to schools.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		in schools today.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's a huge issue Listen, your president is parroting these myths from these people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you say that?
unidentified		Yes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Obama has repeated the sexual harassment myth.
		Obama has also repeated the wage gap myth.
		You're dismissing these people as sort of powerless fringe crazies.
		The president of the United States is repeating their talking points.
		Don't tell me these people aren't influential.
		It's nuts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a different thing, isn't it?
		I mean, when the president, I mean, the president is really just a guy who's supposed to parrot what everybody else sort of already believes anyway.
		And if that's what the progressive is.
		You think a Republican president would be any different?
		There would be a lot more Jesus talk.
		What else would be different?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Trump would tell the truth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Trump would tell the truth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you really like Trump or is this a troll?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I. You're accusing me of trolling.
		What a horrible allegation.
		That's a horrible, horrible remark to make.
		No, I do really like him.
		Do I really want him in the White House?
		You can fill in the gaps you're there yourself.
		But I love him, and I want to stay in the race for as long as possible.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's funny.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Look, he taps into, you know, look, you and I are both, you know, obviously I don't have a fraction of your reach and extraordinary audience and fans, but we're both in our own ways kind of countercultural figures and very popular countercultural figures.
		And I think that, you may not like this, but I think Trump taps into a similar vein of frustration and suspicion and hatred of the establishment, of the political media classes.
		I think you and I both benefit from the business.
		I think you and I both benefit from some of the same instincts that make people quite like Trump.
		They don't like Trump because they believe what he has to say about taxation, because they know he's inconsistent on that.
		They might like what he says about immigration, but they don't necessarily like the fact that he was a funder to Hillary and all he got out of it was her showing up to the wedding.
		They don't, in many cases, particularly like the way he speaks about women, and I think Carly Fiorina was magnificent in that debate.
		But what they do like is the fact that he doesn't give a shit, doesn't apologise, and gives such a gigantic, brilliant, bloody nose to the establishment that has drifted so far from ordinary people.
		You and I are both net beneficiaries of that same frustration.
		And that's why I like Trump, because I think broadly, look, I don't want him in the White House, I'll be honest, okay, don't tell anyone this.
		But, you know, I don't want him in the White House, but I do understand why people like him.
		And the instinct that people have to like him, that sort of sense of mischief and gadfly-ishness, the reason people want to vote for him, because it makes the establishment, Republicans, so angry and they don't understand it.
		I totally get that.
		And I have a lot of sympathy for those people.
		I agree with those people on a lot of points.
		I agree with them entirely about the failings and corruption of the media and political establishment generally.
		I totally agree with them on all that stuff.
		So I wouldn't call myself a Trump fan, but I am a fellow traveler.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fellow traveler.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's what the politicians also fail here, isn't it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When it comes to American politics and American education, I think there's some parallels to be drawn.
		And I think one of the parallels is that any of these ancient systems that were established back when the world was completely different and didn't have the internet, they are no longer valid today.
		They're just not.
		And we're clinging to these old ways of operating that if you try to propose them today, no one would buy into it.
		No one would buy into American universities today.
		If you tried to propose the whole educational system as it is today, where you put people out of college, when you release them, they are hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt with no fucking jobs to be seen.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The reason it's wrong isn't that it's anachronistic, because there are things that are not strictly justifiable with logic, which nonetheless work best.
		Like, for example, the monarchy.
		You can't make a plausible argument.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, as to why we should have a queen If you don't, if you don't, once you get them out, if you don't somehow or another establish a new empire.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like what happened in Libya, like what happened in Iraq.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that's a necessary condition.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I just think, you know, for example, the monarchy in England, you can't make a plausible, rational argument to establish a ruling monarchy in the United Kingdom today.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But it works best.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's the best system.
unidentified		It works.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's the best system.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It works best for us for you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It means we don't get a European-style president with his retinue of jaguars and all of the kind of pomp and circumstance and nonsense that goes with that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So what happens?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, the British people understand, and Americans understand this too, actually, the importance of significance, the binding power and the value of tradition and institution and history.
		And it's something that progressives hate, all of the assumptions on which these things are based.
		They hate all of the effects of them too, which is generally to...
		And people come from all over the world because they instinctively understand this too.
		You know, the monarchy just works best for us.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't you think that should be an earned position, though?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, isn't that what we're all trying to accomplish in life is to become great.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is why I don't believe in paid internships because I think they introduce a dangerous element of egalitarianism into the system.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think people who are paying attention to the people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Egalitarianism are born and born to shrimp.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Military intelligence.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They are born and bred to rule, and they should be allowed to get on with it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Born and bred to rule.
		You're hilarious.
		Now you're fucking trolling.
		Now you're trolling, you son of a bitch.
		How dare you?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I know you're a radio.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Trying to introduce a real, a plausible level of egalitarian system to colleges and the system that was in place.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And then obviously.
		My point, which is a serious point, is that just because it's anachronistic doesn't make it wrong.
		There are problems with the university system in America, but I don't think just because you wouldn't construct it like it's constructed today, that means you shouldn't do it at all.
		The monarchy is a good example of that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No one's saying that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if the monarch is a good example of that, because I think it's ridiculous.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		Americans have the same reverence.
		Americans have the same reverence for the office of the United States, you know, the office of the president of the United States.
		Same reverence?
		For the office.
		Not everybody in this country likes any given president.
		But you will hear Republicans say, don't say that about Obama.
		He's the president.
		He's not my president.
		I didn't vote for him, but he is the president.
		So show him some respect.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Very you say that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, come on.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Americans do have an understanding for him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Less with him than I think any president.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, because he's just so fucking terrible, obviously.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is he that bad?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is he?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he's reduced your standing in the world so badly.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You've no idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Please tell me, as a foreigner.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		On my soil.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I will tell you.
		Look, I love America.
		I'm one of those.
		Tell me what's one of those Brits who are not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I keep hearing that repeated by people when I'm not exactly sure if they have a real stance on it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, why is Obama so terrible in comparison to other presidents?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because we've seen it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's whistleblowing things.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because in Europe, we've seen the future Obama wants, and we know it doesn't work.
		We've seen socialized health care.
		We've seen engorgement of the state.
		We've seen these crazy feminist ideas about the wage gap and rapes on campus.
		We have all this in Europe.
		This is why America is great, because it's not Europe.
		And everything that I see and hear from Obama suggests to me that he wants to take America.
		It always used to be the case that Europe followed America's lead in so many wonderful things, whether it's pop culture.
		And I personally think all those have been largely positive imports.
		But it now seems like America's following Europe's lead in censorship, in cracking down on free expression and creativity and all that kind of stuff.
		In socialized healthcare.
		These things are disasters.
		You will hear from Brits because it's the correct thing to say.
		The NHS is the envy of the world.
		I mean, I would just encourage, well, maybe you don't want to go there.
		Certainly don't take any sick relatives, but go to an NHS hospital in England.
		It is horrific.
		Horrendous conditions.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dreadful.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		People die in them all the time.
		There's a scandal a few years ago, thousands of people dying in some hospital, and the Labour government just didn't give a shit or didn't do anything about it.
		This is not a glittering utopia.
		Fine, there are some problems with the American model in healthcare, but trust me, you do not want the NHS.
		And the way that Obama is pushing America to be more like Europe, I think it's going to hasten its decline as a world power.
		We have seen your future, as my colleague at Breitbart, James Dellingpole, wrote a book, I think he called it Obamania, We've Seen Your Future and It Doesn't Work.
		And it was a sort of a love letter to the United States explaining that we've seen where Obama wants to go because we're living it.
		And trust me, it's not what you want.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But is that really what Obama wants to do and where he wants to go?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And if that was the case, if you compare what Obama stood for before he got into office and what he's doing now.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Can anybody work what that was?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, how about the Hope and Change website where they talked about the actions against whistleblowers?
		This Hope and Change website was a big part of his platform.
		See if they really rewarding whistleblowers.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		See if they really pledges he made evaporated as soon as he entered the Oval Office.
		Guantanamo, whistleblowers, all the really important stuff.
		The moral statements.
		You know what it was?
		It's the kind of things that tell you what sort of man he is.
		The whistleblower stuff, the Guantanamo, the things that give you a sense of where his moral center is.
		Those were the things that he jettisoned the minute he entered the Oval Office.
		And that's why I think, I mean, I'm an officer.
		It's an outside of here, but that's the office.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I think it's a bullshit job.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You have a manifesto and you try and see as much of your manifesto through as you can, and people hold you to account for telling what any one person really truly has in that position.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a bullshit job.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The whole point of the way the United States is structured is to limit the power of the president.
		You have all of that built into the system, and that's all good.
		But he does have a huge influence on what people talk about, how they talk about it.
		He makes decisions about foreign policy and war, which is one of the most important things that a nation can decide about itself, is who it's going to fight.
		He does make those kinds of decisions, and those kinds of decisions matter.
		And he also has the power to move.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You say he does, but he does, based on what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Based on you seeing him talking on television, we have no idea what exactly is going on behind the scenes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, but the president has the executive authority to launch whatever.
		I'm talking purely in practical terms, right?
		This guy can send planes to places, right?
		But everything we've seen from Obama suggests that he wants to take a sort of weird, progressive, socialized, pseudo-European approach to domestic policy, healthcare, taxation.
		And this scares us in Europe because we looked up to you guys.
		You know what it was?
		America, for me, as a European, and your viewers are going to pick holes in this, I'm sure, but for me, Britain is probably the greatest country in the world because it didn't invent democracy or property rights or any of those great values that now the world basically revolves around.
		But it was the best at spreading them.
		England in particular spread democracy, property rights, freedom around the world.
		And everywhere that Britain has been is a nice place to live.
		And anywhere that Britain hasn't been, you wouldn't want to go to.
		And America's sort of the distillation of the highest and best values of Britishness, freedom and democracy and free speech and all this kind of stuff.
		America was America's, like, you know, this petri dish.
		What will happen if we take the very best of British values, the stuff that we've spent centuries propagating around the world, making the world a nice, prosperous, you know, fair place to live?
		What will happen if we take them and we cut all the crap out and we make a country like that?
		And we did.
		It was America.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that was the areas that you said we did.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		America was established by people fleeing Britain.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, of course.
unidentified		But getting away from Queensland.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because we've been in decline for centuries, but importing to America the values that Britain spread around the world over hundreds of years.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But wasn't the whole deal that we wanted to get the fuck away from everything that you guys represented?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, not everything.
		This is a misnomer.
		No, no, no, no.
		No, I mean, look, America is founded on British values.
		America is founded on values that the British spread throughout the world.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But freedom and free CSS.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They were established.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Profiting property rights.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but that's what they were assuming.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		These values that Britain spread to India, spread to the bits of the Middle East that Britain went to that are nice places to live now, where women can dress how they like.
		Kuwait, for example, not a terrible place to be.
		Where Britain didn't go, Saudi, not a place you'd want to be.
		Anywhere that Britain has touched has become better for it.
		Look at Japan.
		They wear our suits, they talk our language, they wear our suits.
		And this is Britain's influence on the world, no other country.
		Nothing else can touch it.
		Not Portugal, not Holland.
		Nobody else can touch Britain for just sheer global influence.
		Australia, Canada, all the places Britain has touched are dramatically better as a result.
		But for me, the sort of highest distillation of those values that Britain was spreading around the world was always America, and Obama is tearing America away from those values.
		That's what I don't like.
		That's why I said he was a terrible president.
		That's why I struggle with him in that office, because he seems to me to be profoundly, and I know this is something that sort of crazy right-wings on the internet always say, but he just seems to me to be profoundly un-American.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Un-American in specific respect.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He does not share those values.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He has no socialistic values.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't share the values on which America was founded.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In what sense, though?
unidentified		In what way?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't believe in free speech because he thinks free speech should be curtailed to save the feelings of certain interest groups and minorities.
		Where have you heard him say that?
		He doesn't believe in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, why are you saying that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Where have you heard him say that?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, because effectively, the stuff he says about harassment of, you know, he's bought into this harassment nonsense.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The stuff he said about net neutrality, the stuff he said about the rape campus stuff, all of these things are satellites of the free speech argument, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Net neutrality being a satellite of the free speech argument?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because it's all about free speech, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Net neutrality?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's about the government regulating the internet, yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's about regulating banana.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's about the government regulating the internet.
		Net neutrality is about the government regulating the internet, having control over what private companies can do, about the relationship that a private company has with its own customer, right?
		You have a service from, I don't know what your private providers are called, Comcast or whatever.
		You know, your relationship with Comcast is a private business arrangement between you and that company, right?
		Net neutrality is about the government trying to intrude on that relationship and dictating what kind of business arrangement you can come to with Comcast.
		And it's going to say, Comcast, you cannot offer this package of services.
		You cannot suggest to the customer that there might be a higher tier service for people who pay more, just like, you know, you can get a better car if you pay more, or you can, you know, get anything else in life.
		If you've got more money, you get a better version of it, right?
		You can't do any of that.
		We're going to insist because we've got this crazy idea that the internet is some kind of utility, you know, like water or something.
		We're going to come in here and we're going to regulate and control the relationship that you, a private company, have with you, a private individual.
		That is at its essence a free speech argument because of what happens when you start regulating that traffic.
		The internet traffic that is split down, some of it's for Netflix, some of it's for email, some of it's for whatever, the way in which certain things get, you know, what it wants to do is say that all traffic is neutral, that it's all equal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But do you not see the benefit of that?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you not see that people would be able to do that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But do you not see that people would be concerned with the government being able to throttle internet away and put power into corporations, have them have the ability to decide how much bandwidth goes to the corporate system?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Americans worrying about the power of corporations.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's not just worrying about it, it's knowing the fact that this has been done illegally already without the regulation.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you think for a second that if the government is given the power to regulate how an internet service provider delivers its packets of data to consumers, they're not going to then start to wonder what's in those packets and then start to say, well, actually, you know what?
		The net neutrality thing was fine.
		Like it was a really good idea and we loved it and we were really happy to bring that to you.
		But actually we've decided that this kind of data is more important.
		So we're going to let you do that.
		Or indeed we're going to insist that you prioritize this kind of data.
		And that has consequences for the free market.
		That has consequences for businesses.
		For example, enforcing...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well that's why an open internet where everyone has access to the same sort of service is what everybody wants.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean that's what we want.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean that there is the argument in America.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There's an argument that insisting that all packets of data on the internet are treated equally favors new startups into the market because they don't have to compete with incumbents who have privileged access to high-speed products.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's one aspect of it.
unidentified		Sure.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's an argument.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's not just startups, it's people like me that are able to broadcast things.
		People that want to set up their own servers and put together their own website that does whatever the fuck they want it to do.
		The idea that that could be regulated and somehow or another you can't do it.
		But you're just using the word the wrong way around.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's not about regulation.
		It's the absence of regulation.
		I am speaking for the absence of regulation.
		I'm saying we should not regulate that.
		We should allow private companies, private, you know, to sell and do and have whatever influence they want over the internet.
		And if, you know, look, the market works in these situations.
		Look what happens when ISPs try to manipulate Netflix traffic.
		Customers complain and they have to stop and they have to put it back again.
		You know, the market works so well for internet stuff because everybody on internet is so vocal.
		They're online already.
		They complain about it.
		It takes two clicks.
		The market works brilliantly for this stuff.
		Why allow the government to come in and dictate to private individuals and private corporations what their business relationship should look like and the nature of the services that they provide or the money they provide one another?
		That's profoundly un-American.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's a large argument against net neutrality.
		There's a large argument online that we could spend hours going over the pros and cons of each side of it.
		But I think ultimately people have a distrust in large corporations and a distrust in the government.
		And either one of them having control of what has been like the one thing that's empowered people in this country is the ability to put out a message and to get information.
		And the fact that you could do it now just because it could be throttled.
		It could be limited.
		It could be blocked.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what the fuck is going to do that?
		Because it's not plausible.
		It was a conspiracy theory.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what conspiracy theory is?
		UN thing?
		Have you been paying attention to the UN proposal?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I was the one who reported on it first.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What did it tell people then?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So the UN Broadband Commission, which is not one of the upper echelons of the UN.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were the one who reported on it first.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How did you get the information?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, so somebody else broke the story, but I was the one that reported that at length.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So my story is the one that went around the world.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did I tweet your story?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Powerful.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Powerful, Nero.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Alright.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm kind of a big deal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what I hear.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Explain the ridiculousness to this idea that the UN thinks that they're going to somehow protect women.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is my argument, you see.
		This is the government getting involved in what ISM is.
		Women can do in excited.
		What you're saying, people don't know.
		People don't know.
		The UN is saying that, and this is wacky, crazy stuff, right?
		This report from the UN Broadband Commission, the UN Broadband Commission, this is what we have in Europe.
		This is why I don't want you to become Europe.
		Please don't become Europe.
		What we have in Europe is the UN Broadband Commission is specifically set up to find ways, it is paid for by European taxpayers, and its purpose is to find ways of regulating the internet.
		That is what it's for.
		It has a brief to find ways of cutting down on internet freedoms.
		One of the ways it's found to do that is to get a load of batshit crazy feminists in to say that people who ridicule or criticize them on the internet are in fact guilty of harassment and abuse.
		And as a result, internet services should be almost pre-screened.
		Words should almost be pre-screened before they ever appear on the internet.
		Just the most crazy bullshit.
		Only a European can come up with this.
		And this report came out and it was full of holes and we examined it.
		I think ours was the first report that went into detail about this.
		And I read about it once or twice.
		And then I wrote about it a second time.
		And I think the headline was, am I the only responsible tech journalist left on the planet?
		Which is the only, perhaps example.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How self-congratulatory of you?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm actually really modest.
		I'm actually really humble.
		I'm like a very humble person, naturally, but my sub-editors just bully me into this stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		That's how they got it.
		Those clicks kind of like a lot of people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I know, I know.
		It's not me at all.
		If it were up to me, I'd just be at home.
		Anyway, so what they want to do is sort of like pre-brief all of this stuff, pre-check it.
		And if they don't, they want to clamp down ISPs.
		What you're doing right now is you're saying it's okay for the government to get involved in this kind of regulation of the private relationship that ISPs have with their customers, but it's not okay for the government to get involved in this kind of regulation.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Keep the pipes open.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Keep the pipes open to all.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Anybody put whatever they want in the internet with no restrictions.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Get out of here, everybody.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But nobody's arguing any different.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nobody's suggesting that that's not going to be the same thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think you're not until it's already in place.
		I mean, the UN thing is essentially a Trojan horse, right?
		I mean, that's really what it is.
		That's what was so disturbing about it, is the idea that the UN could get in and get involved and somehow or another punish social media websites and make them responsible for what the users post.
		Like if you post some inflammatory, ridiculous shit and they let it get into their neck.
		Never.
		But if you did, if you went on a fucking late-night cocaine-fueled Twitter rampage and you typed a bunch of ridiculous shit about women with no like some women are there, oh, just women.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If you went on it, if I wasn't some dreary nitpicker like you, yeah, I guess I could.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's me, dude.
unidentified		That's my Twitter program.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		When you walked in, I thought, oh, here comes another dreary nitpicker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's my thing, man.
		Everybody's got their thing.
		I like to leave a mark.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're a dreary nitpicker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like to leave a mark on people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I have my hair.
		You have your nitpicking.
		No, I mean, look, there's actually an interesting discussion around this, and it's that it's about comment sections and commenting what people are allowed to say on the internet.
		There's this huge trend at the moment, and almost every progressive publication has either closed their comment section or indicated that they might.
		In the early days of the internet, you had these tech-savvy progressives, disproportionately based on in coastal cities, who said, because the only people they knew who used the internet were like them, were hipsters and coastal types, who said that the internet was going to create this extraordinary and amazing new world where everyone could express their opinions and it was going to democratize knowledge and democratize power.
		And the presumption they made was that everyone on the internet was going to be nice.
		Well, most people aren't very nice.
		And most people particularly aren't nice.
		And I mean that as a compliment, by the way, because I hate nice people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Most people hate nice people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God, this is boring.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I like people who are vicious and bitchy and mischievous.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're so gay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Every time I do a show of this, it just comes back down to this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why do you say that?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Gavin McInnes did not even wait.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I was on his show for three minutes and he's like, do you have any idea how gay you are?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's Gavin style.
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm a kinder, gentler.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You waited an hour, yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, an hour and five minutes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Okay, all right, fine.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's a good guess.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But what you just said was so gay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like people that are vicious and bitchy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I do.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They make life so nice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's plenty of assholes out there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to have them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, the dream pickers tend to be nice, so I'm sure you get on perfectly.
		How dare you?
		They tend to be very pathologically nice.
		How dare you?
		I like people who are a bit more dangerous and interesting.
		I'm always attracted to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you like shitty people online or shitty people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And I like people who are more interested.
		I like people who step outside the Overton window.
		I like people who push the boundaries.
		I like people who are dissidents.
		I like people who are disreputable and mischievous and interesting.
		I'm attracted to interesting people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		As I am.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Not all dreary people.
		But, you know, I love people like that.
		They fascinate me.
		I think they're the people who push society for.
		They're the people who come up with great interesting theories.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes they're just cunts, though.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes they're just cunts, but that can be funny too.
		That's entertainment.
		I mean, I, for example, am not going to add to the sum total of human knowledge.
		I'm just going to wind a lot of people up for 30 years and hopefully something have a good book deal at the end of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to cut yourself short.
		You're making some very interesting points.
		You make interesting points.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to be modest, you know?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm just being humble.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You make interesting points.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Let's get back to the point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Please.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The comment section stuff, right?
		This was based on a presumption that everybody on the internet was going to be like a Twitter employee or a Gawker blogger.
		Yeah, yeah.
		So they come up with this idea, you know, this great internet, social media, social is going to be the new thing.
		The Guardian's going to throw its newsrooms open to the public on the assumption that Guardian readers and people who live in North London, which is something like Portland or Brooklyn or whatever, ish, sort of.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So North London is like the hipster enclave?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it's more actually sort of like posh-rich liberals, but it's not quite, it's not directly comparable, but sort of like roughly like that.
		You know, they were going to be homogenous, nice, polite lefties with the correct opinions about things.
		Actually, what's happened is it took longer than I anticipated, but what's happened is that ordinary people now can open Twitter accounts too and aren't sufficiently technologically educated to do so.
		And what all of these progressive media companies are discovering, the mics, the Voxes, the BuzzFeeds, the hawkers of this world are discovering, that most people don't agree with them.
		They are just, they've never, I know, it's shocking, but most people don't believe you should kill all men.
		Most people don't believe that white people, that black people can't be racist.
		Most people don't believe in this language.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't believe everything on salon.com.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nobody believes everything on salon.
		Salon doesn't believe what's on salon.com.
		Look, it's impossible to believe those things in good faith because you have to lie so much to yourself and to others in order to make those arguments.
		It is one long practical joke, that side.
		It is just a gigantic piece of satire.
		I'm convinced it's funded by the Koch brothers to discredit liberalism.
		I'm convinced.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm absolutely convinced.
		If you trace the Salon money back far enough, you will discover the surname Koch because it is the only explanation for how badly Salon discredits progressivism.
		It is the only explanation.
		Just today, they published another editorial from this fucking paedophile, you know, who I wrote about, and he wouldn't even dare bring my name up because he's too scared to get into it with me because he knows he'd lose.
		He published this thing about how I'm a paedophile, I don't act on it, right after I'd exposed a paedophile, Sarah Nyberg, and Gamergate, right?
		And it went all over the world, and it was this huge story that I wrote.
		Hold on, hold on, then I'm going to stop turning.
		I exposed this pedophile.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You exposed a pedophile.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I exposed this pedophile.
		She was backed up, and all the social justice warriors doubled down and protected her because she was on message, basically.
		She had the right politics, so they stuck her to the kiddie fiddler.
		This is the state of the modern left.
		Directly after that, with coincidental timing, Salon publishes this thing by a pedophile saying, oh, I'm a pedophile, but I don't act on it, which is precisely the defense that this person has used.
		So I respond, and I did a very good piece, and I urge all of your listeners to seek it out because it really is excellent journalism.
		Yeah, it was called something like, This is why the left, this is why liberal, this is why progressives stick up for pedophiles.
		It explains why pedophiles can get away with this stuff and why progressives and liberals back them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think people back pedophiles?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, who backs pedophiles?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, they make excuses for them.
		They make excuses for them, as Salon just did today.
		Today, they gave a space to this guy who is a pedophile about whom there is horrific stuff online, which hasn't come out yet, which you should watch this space for that because I know Steven Crowder knows about some of it, and so do I. Excuse me.
		You should.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So this guy who wrote this guy wrote this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did he give a picture?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He wrote a second piece.
		Yeah, yeah, under his own name.
		This is how brazen they are.
		Wrote a second piece for Salon today, playing the victim, saying that he came out as a paedophile and he's been subjected to right-wing hate.
		Yeah, this is the right-wing machine in action.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is the guy that only has one hand.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm a paedophile, and I think so.
		I'm a paedophile, and I don't act on it.
		And I did this piece, and everyone came out and said that it was really supportive and it was really great, and that I'd help people to get through their own experiences.
		And everyone was really sympathetic, except the right-wing hate machine, meaning me, although he didn't dare mention me by name.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You are the right-wing hate machine?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, apparently, according to him.
		Except the right-wing hate machine had the temerity to say, we think Peter Philly is wrong.
		And why is Salon giving a platform to this guy when there's so much dirt on the internet suggesting that he has physically touched young girls, for example?
		Yeah, there is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, that's a completely different argument, right?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is the thing, Salon gave a platform to this guy.
		And Salon ought to have known about this allegation.
		If you're going to make space on your platform for a self-confessed pedophile, and you will only find this on the left.
		This is what I mean by the left sticking up for pedophiles.
		They make excuses and they try to legitimize them.
		They try to habilitate this as an unfortunate sexual orientation rather than these people being dangerous predators that we need to be protected from.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I've never seen that, but you're saying this.
		All I've seen is you should pay attention with this guy discussing this.
		But no, honestly, all bullshit aside.
		Psychologists and sociologists and neuroscientists have tried to figure out what it is that causes someone to have these desires.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But we know from the transgender debate, the left doesn't care about that.
		What it cares about is where it can place people in the oppression Olympics, in the victim hierarchy.
		And that is the worry.
		I'm warning you now.
		Pedophiles Are going to be the next transgender's been won now.
		They've won that battle.
		It's over.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you think so?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, honestly.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		It's done and dusted.
		We lost.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, don't you think so?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We lost.
		And by we, I mean people who actually wanted to find out what the science said, to continue to invest in things that are now unfundable, certain bits of research that don't agree with the progressive consensus, which you now can't get funding for.
		That consensus is dominant.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What kind of research?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, so the transgender question is complex and difficult.
		And for example, Johns Hopkins doesn't do the surgeries anymore.
		The guy who used to run it there is a very outspoken critic of transition surgeries.
		This is not the best treatment pathway.
		They all end up killing themselves anyway.
		There's by most metrics no improvement in suicide rates.
		My view on this is, you know, we're probably going to look back in 30 years and wonder how we could ever have been so cruel as to allow somebody with a psychiatric delusion to start hacking at themselves to make reality conform to their own delusions.
		But by we earlier, what I meant was people who want to be science-led on this.
		And instead, what the left very, it was there on the cover of Time magazine.
		The trans thing is the next civil rights frontier.
		They very clearly articulated, they gave us all the clues we needed to work out how they were going to fight this one, right?
		And we just didn't pay any attention at the time, or some people didn't.
		They set it up as the next gay or the next bisexual or the next lesbian.
		It's just the next frontier in the civil rights struggle.
		I'm telling you, pedophilia is the one after that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't you think that if you are a person and you are of sound mind and body and you have a desire to be a woman and you've had this desire your whole life, but you were born a man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Shouldn't you be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There are people who wake up one day and think their arm doesn't belong to them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We don't cut their arm off because they think it doesn't belong to them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How about people like that?
unidentified		There are people who believe it's a little bit more difficult.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It would look cool to have someone draw on you permanently.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think it looks hot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
		I like it too.
		But I'm a fan of tattoos.
		But you know what I'm saying?
		How far does sleeves?
		Just sleeves.
		But you see my point?
		Like, why?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're creating tattoos with being a bad person.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a personal choice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a personal permanent choice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There is a view that you should be able to do whatever you want to your body.
		My argument will be, yeah, fine, but don't make the state pay for it.
		I don't want to pay for that.
		If someone would kick your cock off because you're mentally ill, I will try to dissuade you from doing it.
		and I should have a right to say in a national newspaper, which now you don't, please don't do this.
		Well, I think the argument...
		You cannot get published by saying, please don't have transition surgery.
		It's the wrong treatment pathway.
		You cannot get published.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because of public opinion, because of people who are worried about the blowback from the left.
unidentified		Right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And the extreme left.
		I mean, if ever you needed evidence that the trannies are mentally ill, it's tranny campaigners.
		I mean, the transgender lobby are nuts.
		The reason journalists don't want to write about this stuff or don't want to enter the dangerous territory is that what they are on the receiving end of afterwards is just, I mean, I've had it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've had it too.
		Are you aware of my confrontation?
		The nature of it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, no, no, the fighting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The martial arts.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, of course.
		And, you know, you're right about that.
		It's so unfair.
		You know, these women who are going to get crap beaten out of them by somebody who's not a woman.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's only unfair if you don't say that you used to be a man.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But you should give people have the ability for the option to opt out.
		And they shouldn't, I mean, what are we going to do?
		So any man who wants to be a women's MMA fighter, we're just going to basically give him a gold-lined pathway to the championship because no woman's going to want to get in a ring with him and have her jaw broken.
		That's not okay.
		I think it's perfectly reasonable to say if you weren't born a woman, you don't get to fight in a women's competition.
		I think that's perfectly reasonable.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, perfectly reasonable and objective.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And scientifically valid, too, that the science behind it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You and I are both on the wrong side of popular opinion on this one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, but we're not.
unidentified		I don't know.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what ordinary people think.
		No, not what ordinary people think.
		But the media and the political establishment have made up their minds on this, and it's gone.
		It's gone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But how did the media?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is interesting though.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The right gets this wrong every day.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The reason I win.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think there's no repercussions in supporting it.
		That's why.
		There's no repercussions in supporting transgender.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We ought to.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
		I mean, if you say, hey, it's a woman, get over it.
		She should be able to fight men.
		There's no repercussions.
		But if you say, you're out of your fucking mind, man, man, victimhood, and all the rest of it.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, that's true.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But that is entirely a construction of the left.
unidentified		Well, people are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's entirely a construction of the left.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The aggressive progressives.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The aggressive progressives, and these people who you dismissed earlier as fringe nut cases, they have entirely dictated what you're allowed to say on that subject.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And if you don't say the right thing, from what an analysis is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is what I think.
		I think it goes like this.
		And then it comes back.
		Right now it's coming back.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's why you're here.
		Give me an example of what's come back.
		Come back right now.
		After progressives have won a society.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Progressive aren't winning shit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Listen, those progressives, what is they won gay marriage?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The main say so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They absolutely do.
		You don't?
		You don't think gay marriage is good because you don't want to get married.
		You want to have an excuse?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just hold around town.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what it is.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I don't want gays to become so bourgeois.
		We start to be judged by other people's standards.
		Being born gay is not fun.
		And if you have to be gay, if you have to, you know, dirty anal says, look, I'm having a wonderful time.
		I love me.
		I am a no stretch of the imagination self-loathing.
		I'm very happy with who I am.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So how is it?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Very happy with my sex life.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, because it hasn't been an easy road to this now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Would you rather be gay or be that fat lady from Kentucky that won't marry gay people?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Kim Davis?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who would you rather be?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Me or Kim Davis?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Shit got fucked over way worse than me.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Me or Kim Davis, no I think.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She got the shittiest goddamn genetic roll of the dice possible.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's not a difficult thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Not a difficult thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's a weird, southern, fucking blotchy skin.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If I were heterosexual, I wouldn't be Kim Davis.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'd be Kim Kardashian.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I doubt it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not if you were born in her life and lived her life and had that fucking body in that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I have the actual genetic fucking snake.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I've probably had sex with more black men than their entire family.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She got snake eyes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I know.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think she's hot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Listen.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I could have been a Kardashian.
		I wish I was stupid.
		I could have been such a great bimbo.
		I would have been so good at it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you think so?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I would have been so good at it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		My intelligence has been a curse.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think you're ruthless enough.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're kind of a nice guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a secret thing I don't like to tell you.
		You think too much, and it's also you like contemplating things.
		And even though you make rash generalizations, you're obviously well studied on each individual issue.
		You generalize.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're a dreary nitpicker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dreary nitpicking.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is it now.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm changing you on my phone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		I like it.
		You know, I think we see a lot of these things.
		I think we have a lot of ideas in common.
		A lot.
		I think that I'm trying.
		I do stick up for men.
		I just stick a lot of money.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		A lot of them are pussies and tell them to stop being pussies because it's not a good idea.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the reality of a lot of men.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's not that easy for somebody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's why some people rise to the top and most don't, because it's not easy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wake up, son.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Get out of the bed and get your fucking shit in order.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I am the biggest meritocrat you will ever meet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Rise!
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You can keep just holding it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't let anybody fucking tell you you can't.
		God damn it.
		You don't need to have your hand held and laws changed.
		And we need to make it safer for men.
		We need a men's space.
		Men in this country are being ignored by women.
		And we have to put a stop to that.
		You're not gonna.
		They're not attractive.
		Why are they not attractive?
		Because women are smart.
		They know these guys are pussies.
		They don't want this pussy shooting a fucking disease load inside of them and making some dumb fucking kid that they have to raise.
		They don't want it.
		So they reject these fools.
		These fools are there because you can get meat on a little styrofoam plate at a fucking supermarket.
		It's too easy to buy milk.
		It's too easy to get your vegetables.
		You don't have to do a goddamn thing.
		It's easy.
		That's why.
		That's why these guys are pussies.
		Because the world is soft.
		They're like lottery winners.
		You ever met a lottery winner?
		They never keep their money.
unidentified		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because it's too fucking easy.
		They don't appreciate it.
		And these guys that have gotten through this shitty, dull, gray life.
		The women don't like me.
		Of course I don't like you.
		You don't even like you.
		Become someone somebody would like, you fuck.
		That's the solution.
		It's not change the laws or get on the top of a mountain with a torch.
		We have to stop these women from ruining these men.
		Look at the men.
		They're running away.
unidentified		They're running away to be by themselves because the women won't have them anymore.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who will?
		They don't even like themselves.
		You got to understand, dude, I'm with you on a lot of this.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't stick up for pussies.
		It's not good for them.
		It's not good for anybody.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I want them to have self-confidence.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I want them to work out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This ain't the way to do it.
		Hold their hand.
		Fucking let them cry in your expensive suit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think, I wouldn't let them near it.
		Is that a great line in, is it The Lost World, the second Jurassic Park movie?
		It's like, careful, this suit costs more than your education.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a big fan of the military.
		I'm not a big fan of people I care about and love joining the army, going over and killing people overseas, unless it's absolutely necessary, of course.
		But I'm a big fan of, I think a lot of people would benefit from fucking boot camp.
		I think there's a lot of people who are not.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't disagree with you, and I might not be such a fucking pansy if I'd had it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People be uncomfortable, goddammit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, like, you know, if I'd been through boot camp, I might not have chosen to be gay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's probably been the number one spot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think more people are gay in boot camp than anywhere.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you think they are?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They actually go now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They get generals.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're going now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fucking 30 guys bunking up together.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't think a few guys sneak off at all.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I had that at school.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Man, that's what I'm saying.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I was working my way through the cricket team.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Especially when they're on a boat.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We didn't have a bunch of navy guys.
		Yeah, the navies.
		Why would you say that smells?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We like black guys.
		That was the joke was.
		But cricket, you get some Indian dudes, right?
		They're pretty good at cricket.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not Indian dudes?
		Too much curry?
		Too much curry.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Smells.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The look.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're not allowed to say that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thin noses?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're not allowed to say that, but it's not a race thing.
		It's not a race thing.
		But there's a certain diet, like in Bengali, Bangladeshis.
		They have a certain diet, and it's a very particular odour.
		And I could say this as somebody who's banged a lot of Asian guys.
		There's a very particular odour to Bengalis, to Bangladeshis.
		Because of the kind of food they eat.
		It's very highly spiced fish, that kind of stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's interesting.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You can't be afraid of that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not a race.
		I think that's a lot of people as Asia.
		That's interesting.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		we call them Asians the subcontinent but you know My cleaner is a Ghanaian.
		My maid is a Ghanaian Muslim.
		And I'm such a good person.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ghanaian?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Ghanaian.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Like Ghanaian from Ghana.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		From Ghana.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		From Ghana, yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm a really good person, so I let her keep her Quran in my house and stuff, even though it's a bit like kind of, it's a bit terrifying.
unidentified		Really?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Just so she reads the Quran or you're like, I'm in and she's praying, and I'm like, I hope I'm not paying attention to her.
		Am I paying for this?
		No, but what I quite often do during Ramadan is I reheat last night's KFC just to torture her.
		But she has a very pungent aroma.
		Yeah.
		Is that a race thing?
		Are you even allowed to say that?
		Are you allowed to point it out?
		You're not supposed to, really.
		It's like saying men are different from women.
		you're not really supposed to say it anymore.
		But no, there is a certain...
		I'm always asking her if she's got hot sons, and she will never tell me.
		I wonder why.
		I quite like it.
		But it is definitely there.
		I mean, like, if she's been in and she's been mopping and whatever, and she's left, and like two hours later and I come home, I know she's been there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow, that's bizarre.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're like a wolf.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I do have a really good sense of smell, actually.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's weird for a gay guy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Why?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because I would think dudes smell like shit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dude, they're stinky.
		I would think that would be like women.
		They put flowers, perfume.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, but women quite like how men smell, so imagine men into men, they quite like it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		That does.
		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So some guys like B.O. Yeah, some guys smell bad.
		I perspire quite a lot, but I don't smell.
		Like, if I get, I get sort of, this is grotesque, but let's change the subject.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know women that like the way dudes stink when they get back from the gym.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I quite like that.
unidentified		Fucking stink.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I quite like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They like it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's hot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dirty bitches.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Dirty.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I would be such a horror.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Such a horror.
		Well, you know, there was a smile.
		There was a study.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'd be such a slut.
		I'd be pregnant at 12.
		I would have had so many abortions by now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		There was a University of Rome, I believe, did a study on homosexuality, and they had a theory that the reason why people became gay was a variation on the X chromosome.
		And so there was a disproportionate amount of homosexual men that were birthed from women that were promiscuous.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Such exceedingly promiscuous women.
		I think it's how terrible women are.
		I think some men just see it really early and think, that is so much crazy just to come in something.
		I have to deal with that.
		No, thank you.
		I'm going to go with boys.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's so ridiculous.
		Come into you as a straight man.
		You're talking nonsense.
		Women, for the most part, are great.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I went gay to get at my mother.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's how?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's revenge?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm kind of a revenge homosexual.
unidentified		Like a wolf.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like a werewolf.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Is that like a werewolf?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like the full moon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Your mother turned you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		It's tired.
		Yeah.
		No, so I went, and because it wasn't sufficiently scandalous that I lost my virginity in an interracial five, some of the drag queen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's not enough?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, so I started bringing it.
		I started bringing, I don't know, like 13, maybe five.
		13?
		Drag Queen?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Interracial 57?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Drag Queen Five Some, yeah, it's great.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the first one?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I was fucked for life.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's how you get going.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, so I started to bring home black guys instead, and that she was upset about.
		No, I think it was just that she was just coming down and there were just these black guys with cocaine and pills out on the breakfast table at the same time.
		How old were you?
		14 or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'd think people would have a problem with that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How old were the black guys?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		A couple of years older, not hugely older.
		They went to the bad schools.
		I went to the bad school, and they went to the bad school down the road.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The bad school.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The baddies.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We didn't have black people in my school.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Doing blow and fucking their son.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So hot.
		So yeah, and then it just sort of got stuck in a rut, and now it's kind of a bad habit.
		But you know, I wrote a column about this, like I'm so bored of being gay.
		And everybody took it as a joke, but it's actually one of the most serious things I've ever written.
		I'm only really attracted to things that are transgressive, that are naughty.
		And I spoke about this earlier.
		Like, I like dangerous, difficult people.
		I'm only really sexually excited by things that are forbidden.
		And now gay people are endlessly molly-coddled and flattered and sucked up to in society.
		It's kind of the sex has lost its luster for me.
		I'm thinking that I might go heterosexual.
		I might do something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they're going to take you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think I might do something forbidden.
		I might do something that is going to invite ridicule and criticism and is going to give me a more difficult life.
		I might become a straight white male.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		With all due respect, I think you'll find it very difficult to find suitors that are worthy of your appearance.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you're a woman, you can dance back and forth through those worlds with little to no worries.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, women go backwards and forwards all the time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Once you suck a few cocks and take some dick and get fucked by five guys, one of them is a drag queen.
		You tell a story.
		Coke and black guys fucked up.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I didn't say I got fucked five times.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I said that I think I've got 55 some people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're going to think about that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Would that worry them?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're just going to go, this guy's just too gay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I just can't trust him.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But they love me.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm surrounded by women all the time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In a friendly way.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, but I wouldn't be able to do that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're adorable.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, but them.
		Thank you.
		Like a gay friend.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what you are.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But they let me fuck them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you understand the difference?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Somebody let me fuck them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Some of them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But would you like to fucking fucking fucking fuck with the ones who would let you fuck them?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, but I'm kind of thinking now the sexy boring.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're trying to be nice to your friends.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm just waiting for you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The ones that'll let you fuck them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, you're probably right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Trust me.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The hot ones.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're going to fuck a guy who never had a doubt.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's all mad.
unidentified		That's true.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to get really a bad quality of woman if I go straight.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Stick with the black dudes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, maybe I should go to animals or something.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm going to become a necrophile.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I need to do some.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You really flip the switch.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I could be a tranny.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'd make such a pretty girl.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you got to keep the dick.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just in case you're not going to be able to do that.
unidentified		You know, I would.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I would.
		And you know what I'd also do?
		Because I would make them call me she, and I would throw my toys out the primary.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How about Z?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'd be like, I'm or Z, or my pronouns are like, here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, a new one here.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Here.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		My pronouns are fuck you, motherfucker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing, the new pronouns.
		Harvard University is trying to get people to use these new pronouns.
		I mean, you're winning on this side of the zone.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So we'll never transition just to antagonize people because they'll be like, yeah, I still got a dick.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You still got to call me she.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's the move, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Say I am a woman.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to wait until I'm in trouble.
		I'm going to pull a Bradley Manning.
		I'm going to wait until I get in trouble.
		And then to elicit sympathy from idiots, I'm going to go trans.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are you trying to say that that's what Bradley Manning did?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I would never make that implication.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Chelsea Manning, by the way.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, I misgendered.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I misgendered.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I still call Bruce Bruce.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course you do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		After 60 years.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Has he had it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I'm not even going to be nice.
		I don't give a fuck.
		It's a dude.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, you're right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He shouldn't be in a women's competition.
unidentified		Bruce is amazing stuff in the midst of media now.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Caitlin Jenner won the men's 100 meters stuff now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that what they're saying now?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Back when she won the 100 meters.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The technically correct way to describe his or her accomplishments as an athlete, the technically correct way to do it is to use the new name and the new pronoun.
		But obviously she won the men's whatever.
		I don't even know what's kind of sportsman's.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, one of the guys he competed in the Olympics with believes that this whole transition to him becoming a woman had to do with taking steroids for the Olympics.
		I think after he got off the steroids.
		Oh, for sure.
		That's a big problem.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you live in that family, if you live in the Kardashian family, you know, it is a war of attention seeking.
		And attention seeking is something I understand.
		You know, and they're constantly trying to one-up each other, and everyone thinks Kim's got the lead, and everyone thinks, oh, Kim.
		And then Bruce comes out and says, I got one for you.
		I got one for you.
		Drops the fucking atomic bomb, the neutron bomb, whatever your weapon of mass destruction, analogy of choices, and drops this bomb.
		It's like, oh yeah, Kim, I'm going to get Vanity Fair.
		Yeah, watch this shit.
unidentified		Watch this shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the issue was.
		Was that nobody cared about him at all for the decade he was on the show?
		He was the whipping boy of the show.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And he got so sick of it, it was like, I really, really need some attention.
		I live in a Kardashian family.
		I've got to do something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I also think that he probably identified with women.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Kim is a slut.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Chloe's fat.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How do you know?
		Bruce, you say Kim's a slut.
		She's married with children, sir.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Look, I wasn't a judgment, trust me.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I identify with her.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I told you about it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Dare you.
		You know, Kim's a slut, Chloe's flat, Chloe's fat, and Bruce is a woman.
		You know, they all have something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Well, he certainly does now.
		Well, he went in with his face, at the very least.
		He turns his face into a woman's face.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So do you know what I love about the transgender debate?
		I want to make a serious point about this actually.
		What I love about the transgender debate is how damaging it is to feminism.
		I'm trying to get all earnest about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That actually was my original point.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right, this is where you were going to go, isn't it?
		There's something that feminists always say about transgender, particularly the male-to-female transgenders, why do they always choose such classically feminine looks?
		Why don't they become what we want, which is a sort of genderless, fat, blue-haired, armpit hell brigade?
		Like, if you're going to go trans, what they want is you become genderqueer.
		They want you to become, you know, some sort of ludicrous, asexual disaster of a human being.
unidentified		But no, people high heels.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Men who become women become women, like very stereotypically women.
		And this is interesting because this is a sort of physical manifestation of a psychological problem for feminism, and it is this.
		If you accept that people can be born with the wrong brain, that a man can be born with a woman's brain, or a woman could be born with a man's brain, that goes a long way to destroying 40 years of gender politics and gender theory, which says that all sexuality and all gender is socially constructed.
		Then that's why men behave like men do and women behave like women do.
		If you accept and you put on the cover of Time magazine or Vanity Fair a person who has had the wrong brain in the wrong body and when they transition they take on new characteristics, new forms of behaviour and all the rest of it, you are admitting that some of these qualities are innate, are biological, that there is such a thing as a male brain and a female brain.
		This is something that feminists have been denying for decades and it is incredibly damaging to the feminist project, to the idea that everything is because when they want to break down the gaps between men and women, they want to make girls play with action man and boys.
		They want to rise boys up as princesses.
		What they're suggesting is that all gender is taught, that it's a social construct, that we teach boys how to be boys.
		So we should teach boys to be nice instead of violent.
		This is the toxic masculinity thing.
		What transgenderism demonstrates quite clearly, if we accept it as face value, as progressives have asked us to, is that there is indeed such a thing as a male brain, and there is indeed such a thing as a female brain.
		That being the case, ordinary people have them too.
		And that explains why, for example, there aren't as many women in STEM subjects.
		It explains why men have certain behavioural characteristics.
		And all of this stuff that feminists have been telling us is just society and patriarchy and conditioning.
		Hang on a minute.
		You can't hold these two beliefs simultaneously.
		You cannot believe both of these things in tandem.
		You have to pick one.
		The reason that some people on the quiet are quite enthusiastic, on the political right are quite enthusiastic about the transgender thing, is they know it unravels the feminist project and it unravels two generations of crazy progressive feminism in one fell swoop because it demonstrates, by their own admission, what total bollocks the idea of constructed gender is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it certainly is fascinating when you watch people being celebrated for traditional feminine appearances.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely traditional, accepted feminine appearances, dresses.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But they would see Caitlin to be fat, blue, hair.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, for sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's the most adorable thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But they want her to be ugly like they are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Trans America, the cover of the Vanity Fair.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Was it Vanity Fair or New York or whichever it was?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		New York.
		They want her to be ugly like they are ugly.
		And they are ugly, which is why they became feminists in the first place.
		They're ugly, which is why they're left-wingers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My favourite feminists are the ones that will never accept transgenders.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the turfs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love them too.
		Julie Bindle is a turf.
		This woman I told you about, the concentration camp woman.
		She's a turf.
		Or she's accused of being a turf.
		These people who say that transgender women are not women because they haven't had a woman's lived experience.
		In fact, all they're doing is acquiring the victimhood mantle by which they sort of admit the whole jig, you know, in the courts of this.
		In order to be a turf, you have to sort of admit that there's such a thing as female privilege.
		And what they're basically saying is, as a transgender person, you can never acquire the full degree of female privilege because you can't claim your oppressed victimhood status and get special dispensation.
		You can't do any of those things because you're not a real woman.
		You never had a woman's experience.
		We don't want you.
		I love them.
		I love them because they're just the most brilliant example of this dysfunctional, fucked up, left-on-left violence.
		It's wonderful.
		Or this sort of house of cards of ludicrous theory that's totally internally inconsistent.
		This is one of those times in which it just implodes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I feel like that stuff's accelerating and they're eating themselves at a staggering rate.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I wrote about this.
		I wrote about this in another great piece that your listeners just...
		It's called Minority Wars.
		And my point in this was that if the last 10 years have been about setting men against women, and fine, you think men should just man the fuck up, and I know you're entitled to that view.
		I take a slightly more compassionate view of this stuff.
		If you believe that the last 10 years, I think most people do, the Progressive Project has been to set women against men, the next 10 years is going to be even worse.
		The next 10 years is going to set sexuality against sexuality, race against race, gender against gender.
		So you're going to get Hispanics versus blacks in America.
		Hispanics, for example, that's interesting because Hispanics don't have the guilt about slavery that white people do.
		So when Hispanics are running cities like Baltimore, the policing is going to be brutal.
		You're never going to see anything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hispanics are going to run Baltimore.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You will never have seen anything like it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because Hispanics are going to be the demographic majority in this city.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're going to run Baltimore and what?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Continue the drug war.
		They don't have the same guilt.
		They don't have the white guilt that allows Black Lives Matter to flourish, right?
		The only reason Black Lives Matter is a thing is because of white guilt.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What?
		You really think that?
		You don't think it's because of black people are getting fed up that they see people getting shot for no reason?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They see a policing problem.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dropping tasers on their body.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You can support black people, as indeed I do, with my body, in many cases, and nonetheless not think that Black Lives Matter is the best thing for black people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's wrong with Black Lives Matter?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it perpetuates a culture of victimhood, which is a lot of people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Besides that one dude that's not really black, what's his name?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Sean King.
		Yeah, he's still.
		You know what?
		Sean King's story is amazing.
		It's amazing.
		This guy, and you know what?
		He came back with this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a female dollar.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He came back with this blog post.
		You know, it's another wonderful story I broke.
		He came back with this blog.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you break that story too?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course I broke that story.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You've been reasoning me for years without knowing it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I broke that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, you told me about that on Twitter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's how I found out about that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because I broke that story.
		So anyway, he comes back after all this reporting and says, oh, well, the man, they're right about everything, except the man on my birth certificate is not my real dad.
		My mum had an affair.
		Like, throws his mum under the bus.
		Since my mum was a slut 30 years ago, effectively.
		And I'm not getting any more into it.
		I've never asked about who my dad is.
		I don't know anything about him.
		I've never asked in 30 years who my dad is.
		Mm-hmm.
		Okay, all right, fine.
		Carry on.
		The only thing I know about him, for absolute sure, I don't know his name.
		I don't know who he is.
		I don't know where he is.
		But the only thing I definitely know about him is if he's black.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it possible for a DNA test?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I didn't acknowledge that.
		there was a black political...
		I'd like to come in.
		Yeah, just kidding.
		Just send someone and get a cup.
		You know, like they do in the movies where you should.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You should put some.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And put him on 23andMe.
		But there was a black political action committee that said they'd give $25,000 to Black Lives Matter if he submitted to a DNA test.
		Did he know?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He wouldn't do it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		A black political action committee said, put this to rest, we'll give $25,000 to Black Lives Matter, and he wouldn't do it.
		So we're in the situation now.
		I know.
		Well, these things tell me all I need to know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's all you need to know.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Now we're in a situation where Sean King has pronounced Sean King innocent, but you're not allowed to ask any more questions, and you've just got to take his word for it.
		Well, sorry, I don't.
		The guy's white.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's still a big part of Black Lives Matter?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's one of the figureheads.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it a thing like, couldn't you be white and also think that Black Lives Matter?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, the NWA is a lot of people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But they don't want you.
		This is identity politics.
		They don't want you.
		Right.
		They don't want you.
		You have no validity to speak on those issues.
		Like, a man has no right to speak about feminism.
		You know, this is why it's so damaging to Black Lives Matter, the fact that all of their figureheads seem to end up either being lunatics or being white.
		What is wrong with this movement that no authentically black people seem to be able to lead it?
		Yes, there's something wrong with this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What about what's wrong with that D-Ray dude?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This prancing homosexual.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
		I might be gay, but he's doing well.
		He's just so odious and unbearable.
		And I loved, also I loved, he's probably the most unlikable person in America.
		And he tweets this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he is.
		I see him.
		Give these interviews.
		I think he's intelligent and well-spoken.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What are you so nice about everyone except the men who need you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those pussies.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Man-up pussies.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Man-up pussies, but DeRay Mackison's great.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		God, what's wrong with you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He seems like a great guy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, when I've heard him interviewed, I mean, you might steer me in a way.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He's probably together with Obama, we're the only black person I'm not sexually attracted to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		He...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, like I would, but no, I find him sober.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what's wrong?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's sort of like a sort of preening comedy homo, you know, sort of prancing around in his onesie.
		There's that awful picture of him in a onesie.
		He's just dreadful.
		But he's a product of this terrible political establishment.
		You've got to be black and gay and a rights protester.
		And another of the Black Lives Matter leaders is white.
		And the NAACP chapter head in Spokane in Washington is white.
		What's wrong with this movement?
		No, she's still in place.
		Or she resigned from some things, but not all.
		I'm thinking to myself, what's wrong with this movement?
		That no black people seem able to lead it.
		And the reason is that this framework is fueled.
		This is a Soros thing.
		It's fueled by white guilt and the progressive liberal establishment, which is incredibly white.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But he's really black.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he's not a real black, is he?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck does that mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck does that mean?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I just said it to annoy people.
		My Twitter is going to be ridiculous now.
		I don't even know what I mean by that.
		I guess I just don't like the idea that black people can be homosexual.
		What?
		I like the idea that everyone...
		I think it's all about my dark rape fetish.
		I don't like the idea of black people as homosexuals.
		It just feels wrong to me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got some fucking issues.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I just have preferences.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Those are issues.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I like to imagine they're heterosexual.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're preferences if you're involved in potential relationships with these people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Heterosexual heterosexuals.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which ones to pursue and which ones not to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is a man you don't even know.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And he's an activist.
		And you're like, I just prefer him to not be gay.
		I have a real problem with him being gay.
		I have preferences.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I have a problem with him being gay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you not like gay people?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, of course I don't.
		Of course I don't.
		They're awful.
		They're awful.
		I love Dick.
		I love Dick, but I hate queers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that is fucking hilarious.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you like hanging out with gay people?
		All of their fucking tutus and Madonna.
		Like, okay, look, I have my moments with Mariah Carey.
		But no, the way they behave, the music they listen to, how they dress, how they speak, and worst of all, which really fucking annoys me, it drives me absolutely crazy, the way in which gay people have now become such bullies.
		They're using all the tools against other people, Christians, the bakeries, all that kind of shit that used to be used against them.
		Gay people have become the worst kind of sanctimonious bullies.
		And it makes me ashamed to be homosexual.
		When I see the way that they bully other minorities, the way they bully religious minorities, and I think 50 years ago, this was gays.
		When I see the way that gay people behave, when I see that couple, that gay couple who went to Memory's Pizza, Memories Pizza, if you'll remember, was the Christian baker who said, you know, probably wouldn't, we'd rather not K to your wedding if that's okay.
		Huge media outrage because some idiot troublemaker on the left had gone basically gone outrage shopping, called up everybody in Indiana and said, will you K to, will you K to, will you K to?
		Finally found somebody who said, I'd prefer not to.
		Is that what they did?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They went outrage shopping?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So the reporter in question admitted that he, well, I think I didn't know what to do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it was in question.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was a matter of going to Washington.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nobody went there and got turned down and humiliated by evil Christians.
		A liberal reporter went around shopping for someone who said no they wouldn't.
		And it took them days to anyway.
		Just like Sabrina Erdley in Rolling Stones, she went rape shopping.
		Sabrina Erdley admitted that she went around looking for the most sensational rape story possible.
		And of course, it turned out to be bullshit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But I did not know, but hold on, don't mean to interrupt you, but I did not know that that was not an actual story.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's cooked up by the media.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was a real gay couple.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is how I fell into it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And do you know what the real gay couples are doing today?
unidentified		What?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And this is just...
		It just makes me so...
		They're becoming bourgeois.
		They're getting a car and a kid and a pet.
		And then, no, they're not having sex.
		No, they're not having sex.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're gay neighbors.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're awful.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I hate those kind of gays the most of all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're terrible gays.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, like, you know, being gay, you should be toppling out of a nightclub off your tits on ketamin at 4 p.m. on a Monday afternoon.
		Call yourself a homosexual.
		You drive a golf.
		Like, you know, just stop it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You've got a Rage Rover, but carry on.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Stop it.
		Get the kid to school by 8.
		Oh, no, I've got to get back because I've got Bridge Club at 10.
		Just die.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he teaches spin classes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Like a.
		God, CrossFit.
		Soul cycle.
		What kind of a self-respecting gay person does soul cycle?
		Isn't that bad for you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Cardio.
		Cardio is good.
		You want to stay thin.
		How do you stay thin?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Sex and drugs.
		Like any other gay person.
		Crystal meth and 12-hour fuck sessions.
		How do they stay thin in the 80s.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		AIDS in the 80s.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Fantastic.
		You know, I'd love if it.
		I kind of do want it because.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		AIDS?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because it's not a death sentence anymore.
		You can't die.
		All the great drugs.
		But if you delay taking the drugs, you get thin, you lose all your body fat.
		You get so much attention.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are you tired all the time?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		All the presence.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm tired all the time now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You've got way more tired.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I've got stuff.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're talking so fast.
		I don't buy the fact that you're tired all the time.
		It's hard to get a word in edge-wise.
		You're on fire.
		I don't buy it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're getting tired of me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're going to be exhausted if you're going to be able to have sores all over your face.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't want that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Actually, that's not hot.
		Maybe just the early stages.
		You know, like the first.
		The first six months of Ebola, the first six months of AIDS are fantastic.
		You lose all your body fat.
		You just shit all the way out.
unidentified		Yeah, but Ebola's, you get sores all over your body.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		First stage, first stage.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You get it right away.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, gay couple this week, and I promise I'm going to give the subject up, but gay couple this week decide to renew their wedding vows.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And they go to Memories Pizza, and they pick up pizza, and they start parading around on stage how they got Memories Pizza at their wedding, those nasty Christians who don't want to cater gays.
		And I thought to myself, and then they sort of sent these pictures to the press or whatever, and I thought to myself, what a nasty, vindictive, bitter, soulless way to treat your own wedding or your vow renewal or whatever.
		You turn it into this triumphalist, bitter public political stunt.
		And I thought it was so cheap and so classless.
		And it represented everything that's wrong with the gay establishment today.
		And it was just, I just saw that and I thought, God, I hope people don't think that about me when they know I'm gay, you know?
		These preening, bitter, spiteful, nasty queers.
		And I thought to myself in my head, you fucking idiots.
		Like, you are doing so much damage to the public view of homosexuality.
		You know, making people think that this spiteful, bitter behavior is how we all behave when we get a taste of power.
		Because, of course, how we judge people, you know, one of the ways we judge people is how they behave when they're in power.
		And now gays are the establishment, you know, quite a lot of people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think gays are in power?
unidentified		Yes, of course.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Look at the disproportionate employee, you know, disproportionate numbers of homosexuals in employment in the media or whatever.
		They're constantly fated and molly-coddled and celebrated.
		And all of that's good.
		Like, equality is great.
		And, you know, all that's important.
		But it's really telling how they behave when they get to that position.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See, it's such an aberration, this one couple that you're talking about.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, because the same thing happened to Kim Davis.
		The same thing happened to that other, The same thing's happening in Ireland, in England, all over the place.
		Gays are becoming bullies.
		And I don't like seeing it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think what's happening is you get a bunch of people who are unhappy that know that they can have an impact by doing a something, and they know they have a green line.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're obviously unhappy, although I wouldn't behave like this, but what I do And the gay something is we can protest in this fashion and we will get a pop.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But they've been given carte blanche to go after religious minorities because the media establishment and politicians and all the rest of it continually give the signals.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are you on Kim Davis' side?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is that what you're saying?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't...
		She can't do the job.
		So she probably shouldn't be in her post because she can't perform the functions of her job.
		Her beliefs, if she refuses to issue those licenses, and that is the law, she can't be in her job.
		But you know what's interesting?
		She's these days the example of a conscientious objector.
		She's an example of somebody sticking out for their beliefs or their political opinions or their life choices or their faith or whatever in the face of the law, in the face of public opinion, and in the face of received wisdom, the consensus, all the rest of it.
		She is doing what gay rights campaigners were doing 50 years ago, and I think it's very telling.
		Now gay people are molly-coddled and protected.
		And I've been a beneficiary of that.
		I've seen it in action.
		The way that now they can turn around and bully religious minorities solely to feel better about themselves in this horrible, bitter way that they do.
		And lesbians are the worst, by the way.
		The way they now do that to people who have faith, to religious people, makes me feel slightly ill.
		And I really object to it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's slow down.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're saying that she is doing what gay activists were doing?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		50 years ago, which is make brave stands that get them in prison to go against the law, go against, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Gay activists were never in a position to alter other people's lives or deny them of a public service that's on the books.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See, the problem with which she's not in the middle of the day.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Which is why it's right that she's used her own person.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		She should never be put in prison.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you can't compare her to any form of an activist.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course you can.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How could you possibly do that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because she's affecting other people's lives that have nothing to do with it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's not me that she shouldn't be in her job.
unidentified		Why?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because she can't do her job.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		While the entire time being guilty of several sins.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		One of them the fact that she's been a Democrat anymore.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The primary sin of a Switch Back Over.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Switched Over.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm not surprised after she saw what happened.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is how the Democrats treat their own.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's how the GOP came and sucked her tips.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And of course the New York Times.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		McCuckabe flew in in a private jet.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And of course the New York Times accidentally published that she was a Republican.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course, what a terrible mistake.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Democrat, you mean?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, they published that she was a Republican.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, and it was initially she was a Democrat.
		It was an entrepreneur.
		She became a Republican.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The New York Times just assumed, without checking, that she would be a Republican.
		So they printed in the newspaper that she was a Republican, because of course the New York Times did.
		And then, oh, sorry, we made a mistake about that.
		And of course, no one ever sees the correction.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't that what Fox News always does when someone does something creepy?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They put D next to their name.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And they find out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they find out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm literally a Republican.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I know, I love Fox News.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to say a bad word about Fox News.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it's great.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think that the comparison is a very important thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's not very bar, but it's nearly there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The comparison is pretty ridiculous, to say that she is doing what gay activists were doing in the 1950s.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We started to find that ridiculous, but from my point of view, as somebody who is both religious and homosexual, you're religious?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I mean, matrilineally speaking, I'm Jewish, but I was raised Catholic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So what does that mean?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Are you practicing in the middle of ketamine or 12-hour fuck sessions?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's not very religious.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Rich older men in dresses, what's not to love.
		If it hadn't been for Father Michael, I wouldn't have made nearly as much money in my 20s.
		He told me to give such good head, you know.
		I gave such good blowjobs after three years in choir.
		No, I mean.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you're not religious?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I believe.
		I don't necessarily go to Mass all the time, but I think I'm a Catholic.
		I don't call myself a Catholic, yeah.
		I mean, I'm not a good Catholic, but, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But when you say you believe, like, you believe in what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The Bible?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I believe in Catholicism.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm a Catholic, I think.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you believe that it's a good idea to have confession?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you have a dude who never has sex ever listening to fuck stories whispered through a hole in the wall.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is like don't cut baby dicks, you know, for a.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It is.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		For a for a for a dreary nitpicker, you turn a friend.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dressed like a wizard sitting on a golden throne.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're done.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you have to call him father.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That all makes sense to you?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what?
		I went to Catholic school, by the way.
		Well, do you know what?
		This world could do with a bit more pomp and circumstance, a little bit more drama.
		Do you know what?
		This world could do with a little bit more of that.
		I mean, just look at the dreary hell of the atheist art scene.
		There's some token.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Atheist art scene?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's not a contribution to human.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking searching the atheist art scene.
		No, but I mean, like, you know, what I mean is, you know, if you want to look at the atheist art scene, look at almost all the good movies ever made.
		Look at almost all the great albums ever made.
		Look at almost all the great comedians that have ever told jokes about.
unidentified		Compare Hollywood to St. Peter's Brazil.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Hollywood to the Blue Moss for the comics.
		Like, if you believe comedians contribute to the same total human civilization and knowledge in the way that Michelangelo did, venters.
		Oh, yes, Vantage.
		Today?
		Yesterday, dreary.
unidentified		Awful.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Boring.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
unidentified		All of them that are religion to be intelligent.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It totally makes sense.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, you need religion to be a good person.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But you especially need religion to be a good artist.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you need to pick and choose what you do that you decide is religious and isn't.
		Same with this Kim Davis lady deciding that the sins of these men were more important than their own sins.
		Or you, whether you want to do ketamine and amphetamines and have sexual black guys.
		You were talking about fivesoms at the age of 13.
		Okay?
		These are all not in the Bible.
		Look in the Bible all day.
		You'll never find drag queen fivesoms.
		It's not in Leviticus.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's in Leviticus.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You've got to go to the Old Testament.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, you're looking at King James, aren't you?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If you actually check.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How about the woman?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's right there in Leviticus.
		I read the Dead Sea Scrolls in the Christian Mind with interracial cross-dressing orgies.
		It's right there.
		It's in my mind.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the thing, though, isn't it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you say you're Christian and you want to be on that team, you've got to kind of say it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You can aspire to be better than you are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Aspire to be better than you are doesn't mean you believe in Jewish zombies.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to win this one.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to win this one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course you're not.
		This one's ridiculous.
		This one's ridiculous.
		You're talking about shit written on animal skins by people who thought the world was flat and the sun was 17 miles away.
		And you're like, oh, yeah, that's going to make you a better person.
		It's totally, yeah, they found it in clay pots in Qumran.
		Yeah, they unscrolled it.
		They had to do DNA tests to find out which piece of fucking yak ass this piece was written on.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I feel sorry for people who have a sort of bleak, empty existence of justice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's just so boring.
unidentified		Terrible belief in nonsense is not bleak.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A lack of belief in nonsense is not bleak.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, you believe plenty of nonsense.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Name one thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're sort of silly.
		You've got a silly view on circumcision.
		As we've discovered.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		On baby death.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Baby dick cutting.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		My God.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We agree.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		For a disagree.
		For a dreary nitpicker.
		You're a hell of a fucking drama queen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's baby dick cutting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You tell me what it is.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Tell me what it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What is it if it's not baby dick cutting?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to give you.
		Look, you win.
		I'm just going to give you a dick.
unidentified		Come on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're the one who brought up the baby dick cutting.
		Call it something else.
		What is it?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think it's good grooming.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If aliens came down from another planet and saw us cut all the baby dicks, they'd be like, what the fuck are you guys doing?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's just good.
		It's just good grooming.
		Just good grooming.
unidentified		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, we disagree.
		What other ridiculous shit do I believe?
		That's akin to Jewish zombies or guys who talk about whine and drop it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		There's nothing more depressing than seeing somebody who you admire, who's obviously smart and clever.
		Which is an old fairy tale to speak so disparagingly about such a complex and fascinating part of who we are.
		You're right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		Even if you take the view, let's say Ludwig Feubach, right?
		Even if you take the Feubachian view and say, I don't believe in what any of these religions say, but if we look at what they have in common and what that says about the human spirit, what we aspire to, what we consider most important.
		So for example, Christianity, we might consider self-sacrifice and love the most important things because self-sacrifice and love are the two central instincts that run the red threads that run through the Christian canon, run through Christian literature, run through Christian history.
		If that was the voyage, is this, okay, I don't believe in this stuff, but this is an essential human artifact of human culture and history because it teaches us more about ourselves than anything else.
		It teaches us over centuries as it has evolved to teach us what we find most important.
		And different religions in different places are fascinating because they illustrate the different emphases on those core values of love and charity and self-sacrifice that different societies place on things.
		Now, I'm not asking you to believe that when you take Holy Communion, you are ingesting the body and blood of Christ.
		That's not going to happen.
		But what I am suggesting is you shouldn't be such a dismissive asshole about such an integral, rich, beautiful, and crucial part of human history that teaches us so much about who we are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, first of all, this is a disingenuous argument.
		This is a disingenuous argument.
		Because you were mocking me about making fun of things that are absolutely preposterous.
		Like coming back from the dead, healing people, turning wine.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, what I'm saying is, even if you only believe their stories, these are the most important stories that the Western tradition, the Western tradition.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The most important stories that have ever been told.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're folklore.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Even if you believe that, they say something deep and profound about who we are and about what we care about most, about our anxieties, about our beliefs, and about our sympathies, the way we relate to one another, the way that we talk about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's adorable.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Just because you say we ought to be aware of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't mean it's true.
		You say that we ought to advise you to do it.
		He says, rationalise ridiculously.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm presenting one reason why you should be less flippant and dismissive about religion, because you are too smart to be that much of a cut about religion.
unidentified		I'm flippant and dismissive about it because I can't believe it's still here.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You are far too smart.
		You are far too intelligent an individual to treat religion with the amount of contempt you do.
		This is what assholes do.
unidentified		This is not what our mediocre intelligence is doing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Exactly what you accuse feminists of doing.
		You're distorting the argument.
		The reality is we're talking about myths, and we're talking about people that believe those myths so much that they won't let people get married because it goes against their myths.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying you can disagree with them.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that what happened?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's what happened, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Where's the love and compassion from Kim Davis?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You can disagree with everything that they teach.
		You can say that it's nonsense.
		You can agree that you can, if you want to agree that it has bad consequences in society, that it's not a problem.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it can have bad consequences.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What you shouldn't do is ridicule and dismiss, you know, sort of the Jewish zombie shit, right?
		You're just doing it to be outrageous.
		You're just doing it to me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, no, that's what it is.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You shouldn't do it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And look, there's a good place to do this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not doing it to be outrageous.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There's a good place for outrageousness and provocation, right?
		And I'm not trying to put you on trial here.
		What I'm saying is you're too smart to fall into this habit.
		And it's a leftist thing, this militant atheism crap, where you dismiss the central importance of religion to our culture.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And what is the central importance?
unidentified		Well, it's not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It got us through barbaric days with rules where we're worried about the consequences of God's punishing us.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Most of our laws are based on religious prescription when you get down to it.
		Most of the way society is mostly the whole society is based on what's ultimately religious prescription.
		My point is simply and only that if you're going to be a flippant asshole, at least acknowledge that, first of all, half the population does take this stuff seriously.
		And second of all, this is important stuff that tells us about who we are.
		And I think it's beneath you to be so flippant about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm flippant about feminism because feminism is not important stuff that tells us about who we are today.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's very flippant and cruel and vindictive and spiteful and horrible about crazy feminists because they're crazy and because what they do is ridiculous.
		I don't think, whether or not you're an atheist, that religion is ridiculous.
		And I think it deserves a bit more respect.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's fine.
		You're allowed to think it, but just because you think it doesn't mean it's right.
		And the idea that it makes you a flippant asshole because you're unwilling to accept myths.
		You're unwilling to accept things that make no sense whatsoever.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're unwilling to accept things that are scientifically who you are.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you know, from the speech, speech codes that you grow up with, your moral codes on spaces.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't mean the myths aren't stupid.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't say that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Be an atheist.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, you know what?
		No, you know what God has to hear.
		You know what God has to hear?
unidentified		Your people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Your people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not religion.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Your sense of right and wrong.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Religion which was created by people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Your sense of right and wrong.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People did come from bullshit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It comes from a non-Judeo-Christian tradition.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And it's interesting.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The sense of right and wrong does not come from that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not true.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're very angry.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not true.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Your sense of right and wrong comes from Judaism.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit.
		You've got to stop saying that because it's not true.
		It's cultural.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's cultural.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's right and wrong in other cultures that's completely different from what we consider right and wrong in America.
		Look at New Guinea.
		Do you know about the sperm warriors in New Guinea?
		These men that take these young boys when they're young and inseminate them, put cum in their mouths and their asses to make them grow.
		They do that from the time.
		They have like national faculty.
		No, this is great.
		It's their culture.
		It's what's right and what's wrong for them.
		Things that would be absolutely illegal, would lock you up in jail for in America and in Europe.
		In New Guinea, this is like a great long tradition of big parts of the world.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And they're not Judeo Christians, are they?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's cultural.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
		It's cultural.
		And you can even be a Christian culture.
		There's many things that have good values that I agree with.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's an argument for me.
		You made an argument for me.
		You just made it.
		You grew up in a place where there's Christianity, you're a good person.
		This place where there's no Christianity, they come in boys' mouths.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's one place that has a fucked up way of looking at things.
		It's a cultural thing.
		It has nothing to do with it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Everywhere that doesn't have a strong Christian heritage is a fucked up place with bad morals.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a ridiculous statement.
		That's a ridiculous statement.
		Everywhere that doesn't have Judeo-Christian values is a fucked up place.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think that, yes, I think it should be a perfectly reasonable, respectable thing to say our culture is better.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I believe our culture is better.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Our culture in the culture of Christianity are fucking each other.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		European and American culture, which is based on Judeo-Christian values, is better than other cultures.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think it's uncontroversial to say so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But what's based on Judeo-Christian values about being a good person?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Ultimately, our voice is not a problem.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It has nothing to do with right and wrong.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It comes from the Bible.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It does.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What comes from the Bible?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Ultimately, our sense of right and wrong comes from the Bible.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Our sense of right and wrong.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think your sense of writing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you think the only way that a person could have ethics and morals and treat each other?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't say the only way to do that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't you think that people understand what's good and what's that?
		Listen, if we're going to have a conversation, we can't keep talking over each other like this.
		When someone's trying to make a point about something that's complex like this, if you think that the only way for a person to have ethics or an understanding of each other or compassion for each other is to rely on ancient myths that are easily scientifically disproven.
		Well, that's what Christianity is.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't say that.
		I said that the specific set of values that you have is influenced more than you would like to admit by your Judeo-Christian human rights.
		It's influenced by the things that I think all of us have.
		I mean, look, I think that some of what we would call morality obviously comes from natural revulsion, which is more like biological, right?
		This is some of the prescriptions against, perhaps against murder, perhaps against child abuse, that kind of stuff, right?
		That comes from a sort of natural revulsion.
		And it may be an evolutionary biological imperative.
		There are certain things that we just know we shouldn't do, right?
		And that's our body saying, ugh, no.
		Like the smell of rotten food, or stuff like that.
		But there are other things that definitely come from the Judeo-Christian tradition that has defined most of what we consider to be right and wrong in the West.
		And I think our society is the better for it.
		And I think that our society is better than elsewhere in the world.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you're yourself and your lifestyle is proof positive that this is the evolution of what this used to be and what it is now.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So generally speaking, I'm an outlier because, I mean, as you all know, gay people generally test higher for IQ than the rest of the population.
		And lots of evolutionary biologists will suggest that people with high IQs tend to engage in dissident Or unusual habits and practices in general, because that's where Mother Nature does her experimentations, where she tests the limits of the species.
		So people with very high IQ are more likely to be homosexual, goes the evolutionary biology argument, because it's in those very smart people that the sort of transgressive dissident stuff is tried out by Mother Nature.
		So I would say I'm probably an outlier there as a very smart homosexual.
		You know, I'm not typical of sort of mains, of the kind of bulk of the species.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right, but what you are.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I might take it to extreme.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who you are, but who you are.
		Being a gay man.
		That's promiscuous.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's what I do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that is prohibited in the Bible.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but I agree that it would be better if I didn't behave like this.
		And if I could be a self-loathing homosexual.
		No, no, no, no, no, no.
		I won't have this.
		You need to read a wonderful essay by Brittany.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't need to read shit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I need to know what the fuck you're saying.
unidentified		Okay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So, Brittany's.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because what you're saying is who you are is prohibited in the Bible.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Who you are, because I don't think my sexuality is an important part of your life.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a huge part of you.
		You talk about it all the time.
		It's a massive part of what we've talked about on this show.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It comes up anytime you want to make a funny point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It comes up anytime you want to define your sexuality or your urges or decadence.
unidentified		I think people are going to be able to do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you jump to it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it's you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think people leap to the most different thing about themselves, the most unusual thing about themselves.
		Anytime they want to be funny or be, you know, it's black.
		Chris Rock always talks about black's the N-word.
		It's why Muslim comedians only ever talk about Islam.
		It's gay comedians talk about being gay.
		I think you go to that because it's the most different, funny thing about you.
		And it's sort of a form of laziness, I suppose.
		So I don't know that's particularly relevant.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, wait, listen, it's absolutely relevant.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Make a personal joke out of it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a death in a lot of cultures.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, in Muslim cultures, not in ours.
		No, in ours.
		It's only the Muslim world that does that now.
		It was 11 cultures.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're the last ones that continue the grand old tradition of killing gay people.
		But that shit's been around forever.
		I mean, what does it say in the Bible about a man lying with another man?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think if I could, I mean, if I could choose, I wouldn't be homosexual.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't make me self-loathing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So if someone came out of a Pfizer motherfucker, it does.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't think it makes you self-loathing to hate a part of what you are?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I hate a part of what I am.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I love all of me, but if I could choose to be even better, then I would be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So you'd be better if you were straight?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Anybody would be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If Johnson Johnson would be better if he was strong and had an anti-gay pill, you would take it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it would be career suicide, but I probably would, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Would it be career suicide?
		You don't think that you could transition into the straight world?
		You would be the poster boy for Christian Right.
		They would love you.
unidentified		That's true.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know, if I were to pray the gay away, I'd be so popular.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You would be super popular.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what's holding you back, is the gay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Maybe that's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're intelligent, you're good-looking, you're well-dressed.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
		It's true.
		You're right.
		Okay, I'm going to go.
		I'm going to enroll in one of these camps again.
		I'm going to get you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		These camps don't work.
		They're just an excuse for dudes to get together and fuck each other.
		Like Michelle Bachman's husband.
		You ever heard about the camp that that guy was running?
unidentified		That guy is the greatest or a bomber after hours.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How about the guy?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You say that, but hold up.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We'll bring that back.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But how about the guy that got arrested for killing those fucking people at that community center?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the gay series.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He got arrested.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Then often he's not going to gay serial killers.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, he's a KKK guy that got arrested with black prostitutes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Of course he did.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course he did.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My favorite.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Of course he did.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I love when they get it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So my favorite guys.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		People who get caught with black prostitutes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, literally could be me on any first day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, the racist murderers who get caught with black prostitutes, those are adorable.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I didn't mean the first bit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		As long as you don't have to have direct contact with anybody they affected, it's an adorable story.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, obviously I don't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Here's the guy.
		Look at him.
		Ah!
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Look at that face.
		And you just know that he had these big black girls whipping him and raping him with a dildo and stuff.
		You just know that he was men.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Men.
		Men were doing it.
		Male prostitutes.
		See?
		Black male prostitutes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He did the whole Mandingo thing, didn't he?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot going on there, man.
		I just can't believe that you would decide to not be gay if you could.
		Is that because of Christian values?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So what is it?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's self-loathing to acknowledge that being a homosexual is obviously a sort of aberrant sexuality.
		It's something that Mother Nature does on the fringes.
		So nobody really knows why.
		And it could be elegant variation in the evolutionary process.
		It could be all sorts of things.
		Who knows?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The variation from these Christian levels.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
		From a Christian perspective, it could be a test.
		From the evolutionary perspective, it could be natural variation.
		From the Christian perspective, it could be some Christians believe that you get these things in life as tests, and they don't judge the sinner, they judge the sin.
		And what they mean by that is you can be gay, but if you act on it, that's when you become a sinner.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, crazy.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So they don't blame you for who you are.
		They blame you for what they consider what you do.
		That's bullshit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're gay as fuck.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm not presenting that argument.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Dude, I'm not presenting that argument.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm just expanding.
		You're gay as fuck, okay?
		There's not a goddamn choice in the world for you other than being gay.
		You're the perfect example of this shit.
		This shit being nonsense, that it's a choice.
		That somehow or another you're presented God has given you the ultimate conundrum.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're wrong there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're giving you a choice.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're wrong there.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're wrong there because actually born this way is an invention of the gay lobby.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're not born this way?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		There's no basic way of thinking.
		There's no basis in science for this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's no basis in science in a broad spectrum of human sexuality.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be very specific because I know you like specificity.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There is no basis in science for the born this way argument.
		There's no basis in science that you are simply born gay and that's all there is to it.
		What the science suggests is that it is very much nature and nurture and it's as much as 50-50 nature and nurture, right?
		The gay lobby in the 1980s as well.
		Let me finish this one.
		The gay lobby in the 1980s was worried because religious people were saying that the gay lifestyle was a sinful choice.
		So they came up with this thing in the gay gene and it is an invention of the gay lobby designed to get around religious bigots.
		It's designed to wrong foot the religious right and suggest that people's sexuality has no, There's no element of choice in people's sexuality.
		Born this way, you're hearing Lady Gaga song, and we take it as granted as you obviously have.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I had no idea that song was even real until you just said that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Lady Gaga's Born This Way.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Never heard of it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		One of her biggest hits.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Proud that I never heard of it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		One of her biggest hits is based on an invention of the gay lobby with no basis in science.
		What the science says is it's a mixture.
		So it simply isn't true to say that you're just born gay and that's all there is to it.
		For most people, it is a mixture of early environmental factors and natural predisposition.
		That's the most we can say.
		With any confidence and with any surety, that's the most that we can say from the available science.
		Born this way is a marketing gimmick.
		It doesn't mean anything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but when you say that, you're talking about, again, a broad spectrum of human sexuality.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So some people are going to be much more nurtured.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Some people, it's going to be much more natured.
		Some people are born gay.
		There's a fucking kid that lives down my street.
		He's five years old and he's gay as fuck.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, he might like to play with action man, but he doesn't necessarily, he's not necessarily going to be gay.
		I have a problem with you ascribing sexuality to a five-year-old boy because that's exactly what the transgender parents do.
		You're saying he's five years old.
		He hasn't even hit puberty yet.
		He has no idea who he is.
		No idea what he's going to believe.
		No idea who he's going to want to fuck when he's older.
		He's nowhere near puberty.
		And you're saying this kid is gay.
		You're doing exactly the same thing as these Canadian parents who say that my five-year-old girl should be a boy.
		Please give them hormones.
		You're doing exactly the same thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm certainly not.
		I'm certainly not because I don't want to give anybody hormones and I don't want to influence this guy's life in any way.
		So I'm going to hang back and watch.
		And in 10 years from now, I want to fucking apologize.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I will come back to you in 10 years.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I will come back on this show.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know why I'm going to go to the game gay, by the way?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You get him on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know why?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Because his mom calls him gay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, his mom is wrong, and his mom is.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		She might be correct.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's around him every day.
		She wipes his ass.
		She might know he's gay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		She knows all the things he's doing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She doesn't say she's not a bad person.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's not a bad person.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He keeps finding things he's put up there.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're all black dicks.
		She doesn't say it in a bad way.
		She's just pretty sure he's gay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I think he's seven now.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't particularly like that line of argument.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Ascribing sexuality to people who haven't even looked at puberty yet seems a bit much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But don't you think that with a lot of people, they are gay?
		I mean, that is just what they are.
		So with you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Some people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I'm not.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that you made a choice?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Definitely 50-50.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		50-50.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm well aware of the fact that there is an element of deliberation in my sexuality.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And that's one of the things that annoys me about the establishment gay left, where they insist born this way is on placards and banners.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you tax pay some people born that way?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The tax pays some, but a minority.
		A minority of people have no choice over their sexuality.
		Out of the total number of gay people, a minority have no choice whatsoever.
		So everybody else, there is a varying amount of choice.
		I am aware that there is a degree of deliberation in my sexual orientation.
		Yet I am forced through my taxes to pay for gay pride banners that say born this way.
		It's just something that I know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You are?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, the way that gay pride stuff is financed by the taxpayer in England, right?
		It's given money by the government.
		My taxes go to gay pride people who tell lies in the streets, stuff that I know isn't true.
		They do it basically to get at people.
		And they do it in the same bitter, nasty way that they have to do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How about if they paid for a sign that just said it's okay to be gay?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Would you be cool with that?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, they do that too, and I'm fine with that, yeah, sure.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't want my taxes to pay for it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What if they had said born this way and then asterisk some small percentage?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, that would be your kind of, that would be your dreary, dreary nimpickly sign.
		Some people are gay.
		Comma.
		And then you'd have like a paragraph of text.
		You know, you wouldn't actually be able to see it from very far away.
		But your version of this born this way sign would be like, let me spell this out.
		Do you see the problem now with your nipple?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But do you see what I'm objecting to?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What I'm objecting to is simply telling people lies.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Born this way is a lie.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But isn't it a true story with some of them?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, like, nobody that's holding the signs, because most of the ones holding the signs, the militant homosexuals, are the ones that chose to be gay to get at people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Now, do gays disagree with you?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you have debates with gay people about this?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, most gays won't debate me because they know they'll lose.
		Well, they've got woman brains.
		They're not very good at logic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They've got woman brains.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm just kidding.
		You accused me of trolling earlier, so I thought I better live up to the brains.
		I thought I'd better live up to the right view.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You certainly do, and you're also very aware that your right-wing views and the right-wing views.
		Kind of a little bit of a right-wing bend to you.
		You talk about conservatives and you're wearing a suit and tie.
		This right-wing suit and tie is conservative.
		Like a good way to align yourself in the club is you have to espouse Christian values or talk about being Christian.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't give a stuff about what the conservative establishment thinks of me.
		If I did, my career would have turned out very differently.
		I would have chosen a very different path through my professional life.
		I was at the Telegraph, the most respectable establishment newspaper in England eight years ago.
		If I'd wanted to be a scion of the Conservative Republican establishment, I could have done that.
		I did the exact opposite.
		I've stuck my nose up and my middle finger up at conservatives every available opportunity.
		Poor Breitbart, who put up with so much from me, they publish black dick jokes every week from me.
		And that is a direct assault on the kind of stomach churn that the conservative right is always said to have about gay things.
		I don't just tell them I'm gay.
		I tell them I'm sucking black dick, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you might want really good columns.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I do, and they're very funny and entertaining, and I'm right about everything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it also puts them in a very interesting place where they can say, look, we have a gay guy working for us.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't think Breitbart gives a stuff about whether people think they're homophobic or not.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They certainly wouldn't hire me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they certainly do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Everybody does.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Trust me.
		Trust me.
		Breitbart doesn't care.
		Breitbart doesn't care if you think they're homophobic.
		They're not, but they don't care if you do.
		Right.
		What they care about is the facts of what they publish and the facts of what they publish.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But this whole time that we're painting here is so strange.
		Is someone who believes but doesn't practice.
		You believe in religion, but you don't practice any of the things that religion espouses, especially the sexual.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You don't practice any of the things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what do you practice that religion?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think I do most of the Ten Commandments.
		I don't steal.
		I don't practice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you don't cover wives.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, I probably cover your wife's oxen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You see what I'm saying?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think I'm solid on most.
		I think I'm solid on most of the Ten Commandments.
		I'm solid on most of the Ten Commandments.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Except for the gay stuff, and that's not in the Ten Commandments.
unidentified		That's true.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's in the book, though.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		God is going to look after me.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I got a first-class ticket to heaven.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, the Moses and the work of the angels.
		Jerusalem scholars now believe that Moses was high on drugs.
		You know that, right?
		I'm sure you've read that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yet another thing we have in common.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That Moses and you...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That I have in common, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think he was on different drugs...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They were like pigs or something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Back then.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It was acacia.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Just to be strictly accurate, I have not admitted to anything.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The idea that the burning bush was a bush that was high in concentrated DMT.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Dimethyltryptamine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So he was on some kind of awesome animal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Very powerful psychedelic.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is as Steve Jobs says, you know, he's visions of divine inspiration on LSD, which has enabled him to.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		LSD is very different than dimethyltryptamine, though.
		Dimethyltryptamine is a visionary hallucinogen, extremely powerful one.
		That's what ayahuasca, that's the active ingredient in ayahuasca.
		The idea is that that's what Moses was doing.
		That that's why the burning bush, the literal translation of what that is, is smoking DMT.
		He's getting a DMT trip, and that's why God is giving him these ideas about how people should behave and what is divine, to be kind to each other, to not murder.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't have a view on that, but I suppose it does sound like the product of somebody on a nice trip.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, these are mainstream scholars.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Just be really nice to everyone, man.
		Just like, don't fuck someone else's wife.
		And don't steal.
		I carved it out.
		I mean, you'd have to be quite high on drugs to be like this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, back then, they carved down any idea that they had.
		They carved it out.
		They didn't really have any other options.
		Couldn't make billboards that the state had to pay for.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was the central tenets of Christianity a result of a drug trip.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I have learned something today.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is what some mainstream scholars believe this day.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think I'm right in saying that I sort of have semi-read that somewhere and I didn't follow it up, but I will look into that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure you have.
		Well, you know, John Marco Allegro, the guy who was one of the head scholars that was deciphering the Dead Sea Scrolls, after 14 years of studying, he was an ordained minister, but he was also agnostic because he started studying religion and realized it was all bullshit.
		But he wrote a book called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross.
		He believes that the entire origins of Christianity was based around fertility rituals and the consumption of psychedelic mushrooms.
		Fascinating books.
		It does sound fascinating book.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Obviously bollocks, but it does sound fascinating.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's not bollocks at all.
		I mean, he was a well-renowned religious scholar.
		It does sound fixed.
		A guy who understood language.
		He actually traced back the word Christ to an ancient Sumerian word that meant a mushroom covered in God's semen.
		I mean these psychedelic mushrooms that grew out of nowhere, they thought that when it rained, it was God coming on the earth.
		And that these mushrooms that would come up and then they would eat them and have these great trips, they thought they were experiencing God.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you can generate quite a few extraordinary theories with etymology because so many words sound like so many other words.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So it sounds like an interesting thought experiment and a nice social studies paper, but I'm not sure I quite buy it as experts.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you never looked into it.
		But if you do look into it, you've got to assume that fascinating, spectacular psychedelic experiences would be interpreted by the people who had no science, no books, no knowledge of what's going on with the human neurochemistry as being something that was divine.
		If you had no other reference point.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're certainly right about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I would say.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But then again, there's lots of things about life in general that would be considered miraculous.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the sunrising, childbirth, and all those things attributed to the gods.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And when these people were on these incredibly powerful psychedelic drugs, they would try to hide this knowledge from the Romans.
		And so they hid these stories in parables.
		It's a really fascinating and, by the way, very controversial thing because religious scholars— Well, this is why.
		One of the reasons why is he was the only one who was an agnostic, who was on the Dead Sea Scrolls Deciphering Committee.
		All the other ones were all religious.
		He was an ordained minister, but he wasn't practicing.
		All the rest of them were very religious.
		And so the interpretations that they were willing to accept were not what he was willing to accept.
		So you would have to get someone of that level of understanding of the language to debate him on this.
		And he's dead.
		The Catholic Church bought out the book.
		You can buy it now, but it's like a, well, now it got republished a few years ago by this guy named Jan Irvin.
		So you can get a hold of it now.
		But for the longest time, you still have to buy it as a used book.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Awesome.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will look it up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's one also, The Dead Sea Scrolls, the Christian Myth.
		He wrote a second one after the Catholic Church bought out the first one and stopped production of it and bought out all the books.
		That's your people.
		Catholics trying to hide that information.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We're great at PL.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The last thing they want.
		I went to Catholic school, man, for a whole year.
		Cured me.
		Fixed me up good.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's where you get your fine sense of right and wrong from.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, wait, let's not do that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, right and wrong as far as what is wrong with you.
		Does anyone change it to you?
		No, I got lucky.
		They beat me a little bit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You got lucky.
		You were unlucky.
		You didn't get that taste of.
		No, like I said earlier, if it weren't for Father Michael, I would have given far less good head.
		I mean, I'm right out of the head.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who was a real Father Michael?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So much less.
		Yeah, he's going to get killed now.
		Who is Father Michael?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a real dude.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Made you suck his dick, for real?
		Make me.
		I was quite enthusiastic about it.
		I fucked my English teacher too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How old was he at the time?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He's quite young, quite hot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
unidentified		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And so that's where it all started?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		With Father Michael?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Was that post the tranny?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was post.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Drag queen.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So it was quite a.
		You already had the five some and you're like, this is all wrong.
		I need to talk to Father Michael.
		He's like, suck my dick and shut the fuck up.
		And you're like, religion is awesome.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You see, I really had no hope, did I?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It was never going to end well.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it seems like you kept stumbling into dicks.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I just kept falling on them through life.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what would have happened if a heterosexual man like me was in the same circumstances as you early on.
		I mean, obviously things would have gone very different.
		So I'm not sure if I buy the not-born game.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You'd go down great in a gay club.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Go down?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, you know, is that a British expression?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You go down well?
unidentified		No, I don't know.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so go down well means you'd be popular.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Go down well would be Like the way you would describe a meal or a drink.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, like it goes down well.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like taking the piss.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It took me a while to get what the hell.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right, like, do you want a cup of mine?
		Yeah.
		Which again is another thing gay people seem disproportionately into.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're in appealing each other?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Wow, there seems to be a lot of people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There seems to be water sports.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is it you see against the law?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is what I'm saying.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		People are only gay to be transgressive.
unidentified		They choose to pray to be gay to be naughty.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They choose to be gay to be naughty.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It seems like you have all the time.
unidentified		And now being a sexual place to pray the gay away.
unidentified		I just can't full believe myself away from Christian values.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I can't tear myself away.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Come on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe as you get older, sex celebrity dries up a little bit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I always think I would have made a good priest.
		Do you think I'd make a good priest?
		I think I'd make a good priest.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you make a good priest if you think the guy that made you suck his dick was a good priest.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That kind of good priest.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He was a great priest.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, like, he was the first.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He was good other than that?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I've never had a better singing tutor.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He was great.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Singing teacher.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He got notes out of me I didn't even know I could produce.
unidentified		Ha ha!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, he worked your plumbing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Shattering the chandeliers kind of thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But was he good outside of what he did?
		Like, was he a good religious scholar?
		Was he a good teacher?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He's a parish priest.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I should say.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I just fucking creep getting his dick sucked then.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He's going to get lynched now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How's he going to get lynched?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do people know who he is?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't think so.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's his name?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not saying you're anybody.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, how old were you at the time?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were a little kid and he was like, you're trying to.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Was he in his 20s or 30s?
		Yet another feminist strategy that you have adopted in addition to your language policy.
		No, you're trying to go in this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were the one who was anti-war.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I told you it wasn't the pedophilia.
		I was after I lost my Virginia.
		I was in my teens.
		I was in my teens.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		14.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I was in my teens.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what you said 14.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		In my teens.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		In my teens.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how they rock it in very old England.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I was in my teens.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm here in my country and you've never seen a 15-year-old girl at any point in your life, however old you were, you've never seen a 15-year-old girl you thought was hot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, when I was 15.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, when you were 15 years old.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		When you were 25.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were overtargeted, dude.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		When you were 25, when you were 30, you will have seen girls about 15 you thought were hot.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I thought they were little kids.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, you didn't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I thought, damn, she's going to be hot, but I didn't want to fuck her.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Bullshit.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Not bullshit at all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You can't tell me what I was born into.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think if you're 14.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were born like this.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You were born this way.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You were born a dreary nitpicker.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, you're trying to make it so I'm a fucking creeper like you.
		I'm not into 14-year-olds.
		How dare you, sir?
unidentified		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no, it's a 14-year-old.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that fucking guy that you said is a great guy.
		He was in a 14-year-old.
		He's a terrible person.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He certainly was.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I was a very mature 14-year-old.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, in your case, he got it right.
		He got the right guy to molest.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't molestation.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's absolutely molestation.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't molestation.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It was perfectly consensual.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it is when they're 14.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		When I was 14, trust me, I was the predator.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I was the predator.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were the predator.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You were chasing after the priest.
		He was trying to stay conscious chasing everybody.
		I was aggressively seeking out sexual company of adults because I knew it would horrify people, because I wanted sort of power over them.
		It was my way of rebelling.
		My way of rebelling.
		I was the predator at 14, let me tell you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that's what's going on with that guy who directed X-Men?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Brian Singer?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a bunch of 14-year-old predators going after that poor man.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure it's the case with him.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's a guy who's not.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You know, I lived in Hollywood a while ago briefly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you go to one of his parties?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I went to other people who I won't name of a similar stature in Hollywood.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I went to their boat parties and to their house parties and things, and some of the things I have seen have beggared belief.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Can you give us like a...
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, just, I can't, Right, you know, it's a dance around the facts.
		Yeah, dangerous.
		But I can tell you the truth without dropping anyone in it.
		I mean, some of the boys there were very young.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Very young.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember.
		No, no, like, I don't know, eight years ago.
		I don't remember.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Natural limitations.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember whether I ever met Brian Singer or I even knew who he was then.
		But I knew other people of similar stature, as I say, and there were some very young boys around at that time.
		There was a lot of drugs and a lot of twinks taking drugs and having unsafe sex with older men.
		And some of these boys were very young, desperate.
		Desperate for a job, you know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When Andy Cohen, the guy who runs Bravo, had to apologise for the use of the word twink.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		How did you apologise for twinks?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I thought that was one of the most adorable things I've ever seen in my life.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Was he gay?
unidentified		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Gay as fuck.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And he said the word twink, and he had to apologise for saying twinks because what?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because it was demeaning to somebody's.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He thought someone was like a perfect twink and he made like a social media comment.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck is wrong with that?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nothing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nothing's wrong with that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Nothing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh my God.
		And you see, this is the thing, you see, progressives are starting to police homosexuals' language.
		You know, I've got this theory, right?
		I believe that pedophilia is the next progressive rehabilitation drive.
		But I also think that straight, sorry, that homosexual white guys are going to be put back into the establishment bucket very soon.
		If you look at some of the whining editorials coming out, like The Daily Beast, there's female columnists on The Daily Beast who will publish things about, say, on your Grinder profile, this app that you use to pick up guys nearby, which is basically just a sea of torsos and you just pick who you want to get the fucked by.
		It's great.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Jesus would have planned it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't feel like an iPhone.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And I don't use it for that reason.
		Not for that reason.
		I don't use it because I don't need to.
		But on that app, some people say whites only.
		Some people say only Hispanics.
		People just express their sexual preference.
		Everybody has a sexual preference.
		That's perfectly reasonable.
		But of course, you know, some progressive columnist has finally, like, five years later, has cottoned onto this and decided to make a thing about it and say, it's problematic that gay people express racial preferences when dating.
		Of course, it isn't.
		We all have racial preferences.
		The OKCupid data actually shows us which races and which genders come out on top and come out the bottom.
		So like Asian women do very well, black women do very badly, and the sort of league tables of hotness of men and women.
		Anyway, so they're starting to police the language now and police the sexuality of homosexuals.
		I mean, there was me thinking we were sliding dangerously close to tolerance and understanding, and now progressives are starting to police the sexuality of homosexuals again.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't you think there's a game of gotcha, though?
		It's a game of gotcha.
		So they're not really upset that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		But of course they're not upset.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They're looking for something to complain about.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but the problem with outrage culture.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I've always said that the only way to catch up with that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Outrage culture is what it is, right?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And the problem with outrage...
		Say ridiculous and outrageous things simply to draw attention to the people who get upset about it.
		I think it's a very important project, and it's what I do in a lot of my columns, it's what I do on Twitter, I've done a little bit today.
		And I think it's very important to wait a minute.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You've done a little bit of it today?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've been a bit outrageous.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I haven't said anything I don't believe, but I've been outrageous.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sure, I've been outrageous.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I've been outrageous.
		A little bit outrageous.
		Just a little bit.
		I've toned myself down for you because I know what I've done.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Heterosexual lumping.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Appreciate it so much.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Don't threaten me.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I've toned myself down for you today.
		But no, I am a very, very firm believer that the only appropriate response to outrage culture is to be outrageous.
		But the problem with outrage culture is that because these people are all basically quite thick, they tend to move in herds.
		And so outrage culture can have trends, you know?
		And so people can sort of cotton on to a particular idea, and suddenly everybody's outraged about the same thing.
		And I see ahead of us sort of policing of the culture of heterosexual gay men.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Heterosexual gay men?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, sorry, sorry.
		Sorry, of white gay men on the basis that they have almost like the ultimate male privilege.
		They are smarter and richer and better looking and sassier and all the things that feminists hate because feminists are none of those things because feminists are disproportionately poor and ugly and unlovable.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Feminists are disproportionately poor?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, well because of liberals.
		Oh, right.
		Poor, ugly, miserable, broken people are much more likely to become liberal.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's the percentage that don't have their natural hair color?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, close to 100, isn't it?
		Do you know I've got...
		It's all purple.
		And he just looked at me and went, no, you're too handsome.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Wow, what salon are you going to?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
		18.8 on Santa Monica.
		No, I thought it was nice.
		That gave me a little spring in my step.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's beautiful.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not doing that to you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're too good looking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I said, it's adorable.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I know, I know, I know.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I tipped huge, which I guess was the point.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Good for you.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I guess was the point.
		That's what he was gunning for.
		He also gave me my first, you'll appreciate this, as a real man.
		He gave me my first ever cutthroat shave.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, with one of those straight razors?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		I've never had it done before.
		I felt like I became a man today.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, real men don't do that because you don't trust a man with a fucking razor blade.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't even cut your throat.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Because there's no maneuver where you can get it out.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you don't want that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's like a martial art.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There's no crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was a guy, I believe it was in San Diego, that just slit someone's throat for no reason.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Just went crazy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just went crazy, yeah.
		And they arrested him.
		The person lived, though, but they're fucked up.
		They had to have surgery, and like, this guy just sliced open their throat.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I was petrified that he would slip, or that someone would make him jump, or somebody would just come in the stars.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You got an earthquake.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Turn around.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You get earthquakes here.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Cut my throat open.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, they can just get a razor.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I watched San Andreas.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Pretty fucking good.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Talking about earthquakes.
		I watched San Andreas on the plane over.
		What happens to San Francisco is just awful, really.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In San Andreas?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just terrible.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's awful to see San Francisco.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What happens to your brain when you watch that movie is even worse.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I like him.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		What's his name?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I like him too, The Rock.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's great.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's awesome, man.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what?
		Actually, I've seen pretty much everything he's been in.
		And you know what?
		That movie, he's actually kind of a good actor in that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		He's a good actor.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, but with the stuff with his daughter at the beginning, when the mom's moving into the house with the new guy, the bastard who runs away.
		He's a motherfucker.
		And he just runs away and leaves her in the future.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Of course he does, pussy.
		That's what happens.
		It's probably a feminist.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		He wasn't a British actor.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They're always the best.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Probably a male feminist, wasn't he?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Probably a male feminist, yeah.
		And no, and I thought his acting was subtle.
		I thought it was really on point.
		I thought it was a great performance.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, he could do everything.
		That guy can do everything he wants.
		But that movie sucked.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I just like seeing San Francisco pummeled with waves of natural disaster.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's all the self-hate.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shut up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you recognize that you could be there?
		No.
		You'd like to be there in an origin when the big one hits.
		God, take me away.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		One wave of earthquakes.
		Another wave of earthquakes.
		Tsunami.
		San Francisco is the tsunami of all evil in America.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Maybe when a guy comes in your butt, tsunami, takes you away.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I've never been propelled forward by it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Not yet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's the first time for everything.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Maybe if we, I don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're in San Francisco, son.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Filsome street fair, you'd get propelled, I think.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Get repelled.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Just the viral load that's inside that person's body.
unidentified		Boom.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I always wonder that they don't just have AZT on tap in the hipster bars in San Francisco.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think AZT really worked.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was like the big conspiracy that AZT was a cancer medication that they were using on AIDS when they thought it was the gay cancer.
unidentified		They stopped AZT a long, long, long time ago.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So much so that there was a guy named Peter.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		My gay joke was sort of like 80s bigotry.
		I'm totally out of date.
		I'm totally out of date on my gay hate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there was a guy named Peter Duisberg.
		I had him on the podcast.
		And man, there's very few people I've ever had on the podcast that brought so much hate with them.
		But he is a biologist at the University of California, Berkeley, a tenured fucking professor up there who believed that HIV did not cause AIDS and that what HIV was was a weak virus that only existed in the bodies of people that already had compromised immune systems.
		And he said the correlation between partying and party drugs, crystal methadrine, and all this different shit that you're going to be able to do is to do it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		This is what drives you into the AIDS.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And this is what crushes your immune system.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing what academics believe.
		We have this extraordinary reverence for science.
		And of course we do, rightly so, because it's what tells us mostly about how the world works, apart from obviously from the transcendental bits that actually matter.
		But it tells us so much about how the world functions, like what's going to happen if I do that.
		Science tells us all these things.
		And so we have this, I suppose, appropriate reverence for scientists.
		But what I think we always forget is just how mental and fallible and in many cases unintelligent so many of them are.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They vary so widely.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		They've been in climate change stuff.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I have a dark secret that I never tell anyone, which I'm going to reveal to you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't believe in climate change?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, no.
		I'm perfectly happy about admitting that.
		I don't believe in man-made climate change.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like this, Motherfucker.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't believe in man-made climate change at all.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't believe in it?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think we're affecting the climate significantly, no?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So, all those scientists, they don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is my dark secret.
		So, for I think two years, nobody knows this.
		I'm going to lose.
		This is going to be my last shred of conservative credibility is going to be gone after this show.
		I worked for a climate change NGO.
		And I saw at the UN, I went to the UN, I was in the front row for Al Gore's speech, I was in Bali.
		I went to all the UN stuff, went to all their events.
		And I saw firsthand just what a load of what a crock of shit so much of it is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How so?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, we now know the IPCC reports in the UN are total horseshit.
		Lead authors are asking for their names to be removed from them now because they've turned into just into ideological political documents.
		They have no base in climate science whatsoever anymore.
		But even in the early days when they were supposedly better, I saw papering over of data.
		I was asked to do it, and I didn't.
		I saw people omitting data sets that didn't fit with their hypotheses.
		I saw people getting in reports from scientists and rewording them to make them more extreme and more alarmist.
		I saw all of this happen.
		And I saw all this happen in multiple organizations whose sole purpose was to be extremist about climate change.
		And I came to believe that the whole thing was a crock of shit, and I left.
		I quit.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that what happened?
		I mean, I know very, very, very little of this, so I'm just going to take this at face value and just debate you.
		Not even debate you, just ask you questions.
		Do you think that what is happening is that an industry has been created?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That certainly is true that there is an industry.
		I'm not going to suggest that the whole climate change establishment is a result of some people rent-seeking, although there is some of that going on.
		But there is definitely a climate change industry.
		There's no doubt about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And it also is one, it's something that if you, it's like saying that you don't believe in vaccines.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think it's the same.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it is to public opinion.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think that's true.
		I think public opinion.
		Well, you never hear about it because the media will never dare tell you.
		The public is much more skeptical about.
		Many of the same people who don't believe in climate change also are anti-vaxes, right?
		But I don't think these two things have anything in common.
		And one of them is right and one of them is wrong.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Which one's wrong?
		Anti-vaxes?
		Right.
		Or wrong.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		People should vaccinate their children.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And climate change is bunk.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But if you didn't say that you don't believe in climate change, a lot of times people throw in the same sort of extreme whack of the people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't care what they lump me in with.
		I care about facts not being, you know, not whether somebody lumps me in with the wrong group of people.
		I've never cared about that.
		I don't care what people think about me.
		I care whether my argument is sound or whether I'm right.
		And also whether I'm funny and entertaining and people like me.
		But I don't care if somebody, you know, but people write guys like us off all the time, right?
		They said, you write me, I was a misogynist, self-loathing, homosexual, as you did today wrongly.
		People do this all the time.
		And it's just another way that the left has of delegitimizing the speaker because they don't like the arguments.
		Rather than attack the argument, you call the speaker self-loathing.
		Rather than attack the argument, you call the speaker, you know, a bigot of some other kind.
		Or you pathologise.
		You say that if you're a gay person with these opinions, you must either have some psychological problem and get that you need therapy, or you hate yourself and you're self-loathing because of your religious upbringing, all the rest of it.
		You don't allow that person the dignity of having opinions that don't correspond with their sexuality.
		That, I think, is cheap, and it ignores the messy and complicated reality of human sexuality and who people are.
		I don't care if somebody thinks that I'm a self-loathing homosexual.
		What I care about is telling the truth that other people seem to be reluctant to do.
		Gay people, the gay establishment certainly doesn't tell the truth about a lot of things.
		They don't tell the truth about Born This Way.
		They don't tell the truth about HIV.
		They get very upset when you dare to tell.
		I wrote this column, like, you know, gay people, if you want to start donating blood, because most gay people are banned from donating blood, you know, or at least it's very difficult in the UK and I think the US too.
		And I wrote this column, so gay people are complaining that they're not allowed to donate blood, and they say that it's evidence of homophobia or whatever.
		I said, if you want to be able to donate blood, stop being sluts.
		The reason the NHS doesn't let you donate blood is because gay blood is so disproportionately more likely to have diseases in it.
		if you want to be allowed to donate blood, stop sleeping around.
		But that wasn't the point.
		My point was to get at the whiners and the winges and the social justice worlds and the handwringers.
		My point is, I don't care if somebody says, you know, you're a self-loathing homosexual.
		I know it isn't true.
		It's a cheap debate tactic, and it really has no meaning outside of the facts of the argument.
		So I don't care about being lumped in with crazy people.
		If my arguments are sound about a particular issue, I'd rather I wasn't.
		But, you know, you say to me, well, you come and you say, I don't believe in climate change.
		And in my head, I think, oh, God, you're like a crazy info wars conspiracy theorist.
		You're an Alex Jones type, right?
		Who probably thinks vaccines are a conspiracy by the government.
		I find that absurd.
		And in any case, I don't really mind too much because I think ordinary people, I think many of your fans and certainly mine, are a bit tired of having labels applied to them by other people.
		I think people are a bit tired of being told what they are, told they're bigoted, told they're misogynistic, told that there is something else wrong with them or that they have the wrong opinions about things.
		I think people are a bit sick of that, actually.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Told they were born gay.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
		I think people are a bit bored of that.
		So I'm very relaxed about people calling me names because I've had it my whole career.
		And normally it's a consequence of telling the truth.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Got it.
		You know, there's a lot of articles.
		This is really interesting because I Googled it while you were talking about how there's a quote that gets bandied around a lot.
		97% of climate scientists agree.
		And there's a lot of fucking articles that says that's horseshed.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a lot.
		I don't think that's true.
		I don't think that's ever been true.
		I think that 97% of climate scientists agreeing on climate change is in the same category of immortal myth that the campus rape culture statistic is.
		It's one of those sort of unquestioned, it's become a fact meme, you know?
		It's one of those things that's uncritically reported.
		And it's been repeated so many times that people don't even feel the need to ask for a citation anymore.
		So for example, when you hear the stuff about the rape statistics or the pay gap, people take it, it's such an established part of accepted statistic now.
		People have stopped bothering to ask for evidence to justify it.
		I don't think it was ever true, the 97%.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you would know probably better than a lot because you were actually there on the front lines and you watched people actually fuck with evidence and omit things and add things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what was the when you were there and this was all going on, like what was the philosophy behind it?
unidentified		It's politics.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's all politics.
		Climate change has never been about science.
		It's always been about politics.
		You know, and this is when right-wingers sometimes sound a bit conspiratorial and a bit crazy, right?
		When they say, oh, it's all a construction of the liberals.
		Like, 97% of scientists is a construction of liberals.
		Oh, just get out, right?
		I understand how that conversational moment comes to happen.
		But all I can tell you is that it was climate change for me as an observer, for the scientists concerned, it was primarily a political project.
		It was a lot to do with the sort of UN global guilt about poverty and the third world.
		Climate change was this issue that was going to fix everything, right?
		It was going to fix poverty in the third world.
		It finally addressed the sort of white guilt they all feel and gave them all a real reason to feel bad about being who they are.
		It gave them that sort of terrible, you know, it gave them the justification to beat up on capitalism, which they all hate.
		It gave them the justification to beat up on the Western way of life.
		And James Denningpole, my Breitbart colleague, wrote a book about watermelons, green on the outside, red on the inside.
		And his point was that his thesis is that dressed up in the language of environmentalism and climate change concern is actually just socialism, anti-capitalism, and sort of this weird anarchic desire to see the developed world burn on the part of very politicized scientists.
		And I have to say, based on what I saw, he's right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it still seems like it's a very high number when they're breaking down.
		There's a skeptical science article about it.
		They break down the actual number of scientists that do believe that we have something to do with global warming.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I mean, ultimately, ultimately, the debate is pointless anyway.
		Well, not pointless, but there are millions of articles about climate change on the internet.
		And with one Google search, you can't hope to get anywhere even close to the truth.
		But in any case, it's a good idea to get off fossil fuels simply because it's going to run out.
		It's a question of energy security, not conservation for me.
		I think for many conservatives who agree that we have to find other solutions, whether it's wind or nuclear or something else, right?
		Just drilling and using up all the oil is going to, I mean, it's going to run out eventually, right?
		It's going to run out, so we need a better solution.
		We need something else in the wings that can take over.
		That's not a question of ecology, and that's not a political question either.
		It's just basic energy security, making sure that we all have what we need to survive and that we can all keep our lights on, right?
		So for me, it's not, you know, there is a heavily politicised and I think primarily political and not scientific issue.
		But we should in any case be pursuing renewable energy because one day we're going to have to.
		Even with shale gas, which is going to fixes us for another 100, 200 years or something, it's going to run out eventually.
		And we are going to be around when it does.
		I don't believe that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I always find it very disturbing when people bring up this whole fracking thing and they're very dismissive of it.
		That one freaks me out because there's absolute evidence that they've poisoned a lot of wells, that there's areas that people can't live in anymore, that it's leaked into river supplies.
		There's absolute evidence of that.
		And then people are like, well, but look how cheap the gas is now.
		I'm like, it doesn't matter.
		If you fuck something up to the point where it's useless 100,000 years from now, it doesn't put out cheap stakes.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The EPA poisoned a river.
		I mean, supposedly the EPA would say that doesn't mean there shouldn't be an EPA just because they fucked up and poisoned a river, right?
		Just because one fracking well fucked up, or even three fracking wells, or 10 out of 1,000, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So I'm arguing 1,000.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Maybe there needs to be a better breath of regulation.
		Maybe they need to do it differently.
		Take a guess.
		More than I've been totally out of that climate energy stuff for people.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Let's guess right now.
		I'm going to say million wells in America.
		300,000.
		How many?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		A million fracking wells?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You're kidding, right?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In America, no.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		A million fracking wells in America.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		That's insane.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in America.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		There can't possibly be.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think it's more than that, actually.
		1.1 million active active fracking wells.
		Yep.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I'm stunned by that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't understand how my country rolls.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So in that case, you could present hundreds of examples of poisoned rivers.
		It still would be significantly ripped.
		But it still would be significantly insignificant.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Statistically insignificant.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It would still be insignificant.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If there's 1.1 million of these wells, and there are 100 scare stories in the media every year, that 100 is a relatively small number.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If you're looking at statistics, but if you're the actual human beings that live anywhere near these people.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		If you don't know about nuclear power, you could say people die in nuclear accidents, so let's not have to do that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's not that many nuclear accidents.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You could say that about the nuclear power.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But you can and people do, but there's not even that many nuclear accidents.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We don't live in a, well, there are nuclear accidents in Japan, there are nuclear accidents in Russia.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's two.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And Three Mile Island.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right, which is a very important thing.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Which is, well, probably comparable in numbers of people affected to your fracking thing.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We don't live in a perfect world.
		We have to make a risk assessment and a judgment, and also price comes into it.
		The cost and the amount of the benefit to society of getting all of this natural gas, right?
		If a couple of rivers are poisoned, we may say that that is the best of a bad set of solutions, right?
		None of this stuff is perfect because we don't live in mud huts.
		We want nice shit, you know?
		You want your cameras, you want the internet, you want computers, you want a producer with seven buzzing devices next to him.
		That comes at a price, right?
		There's an energy cost to that.
		And if you want that, you're going to have to get it from, you're going to have to get the power from somewhere.
		And none of those solutions are going to be things you're going to like.
		It's either drilling for oil.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Middle East oil.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, sure.
		I think we should invade the...
		Which she also said.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who is he?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Anne Coulter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Who said that?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Ann Coulter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you say he also said?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I said she said.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ann Coulter?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I said she also said.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Would you accept if she became a man?
unidentified		What?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If she became a tranny?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I can't see that Anne Coulter would ever become a man.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		She's a beautiful woman.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How dare you lie to America, the world?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know what you're doing.
		You are a right-wing shill, you son of a bitch.
		You really are.
		You're a supportive fracking.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I love Counter.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You love circumcision.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I love Anne Coulter.
		I think she's tremendous.
		No, I do, and you know why I do?
		She falls into the same bucket you do, and I do, and Trump does.
		She is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's a troll.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, she's not a troll.
		She certainly is.
		You could characterize much of what both of us do as trolling.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't troll.
unidentified		I don't.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Tell me what I do to trolling.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Viewers will make up their own judgments on that one.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a troll.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Fine, okay, if you're not a troll, that's fine.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I may say inflammatory things, but I believe them.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Me too.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		So where do I go?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		She's telling some pretty ridiculous shit about Max Cans.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't think she believes that.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I wanted to persuade UKIP, which is the closest thing we have to equivalent of the Tea Party.
		I wanted to persuade UKIP in the UK, who were banned from the Pride March, because, of course, the leftist homosexual establishment are nothing if not ruthlessly intolerant of Conservatives.
		It was much more difficult for me to come out as a Tory than it was as a gay person.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A Tory being a Conservative person.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's much more difficult to come out as a Conservatives than it is as being gay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right wing, like I said.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Right wing is very difficult.
		I wanted UKIP, who's our covenanting party, to go all dressed in drag as Margaret Thatcher and have signs, things like...
		I've lost my thread.
		We've been talking for a very long time.
		What were we talking about?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Gay people, something.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I've lost it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Let's move on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The UK.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I've lost it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's gone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Oh, trolling, but no, I've got gone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Troll.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's gone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's gone.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You were accusing me of trolling.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		No, I just can be trollish as I am.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		As trollish.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		As Anne Coulter can, as Donald Trump is.
		I think we can all be trollish.
		And being provocative and outrageous, saying things you believe in, the definition of trolling has expanded to cover that now.
		It's become essentially a meaningless word, like racist.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's also a dismissal word.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's like, you know, when someone calls you a sexist or someone calls you a bigot, they'll call you a troll.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I think what we all do, all four of us, is we say things, we gin up our jokes and our rhetoric and our provocation to get attention and to draw attention perhaps to people who are unnecessarily offended by things that they shouldn't be offended by to idiots.
		But in the course of doing so, we do tell the truth and what we really believe in.
		Now, you may be the sort of least.
		On that spectrum that probably starts with you and ends with Trump, you're probably the least trollish, but you still do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I think it's part of that countercultural spectrum.
		If people, you're not part of a right-wing establishment media.
		You're your own thing.
		You fall, I think, very squarely into that category we're talking about earlier.
		I think many of the people who like each of us are the same.
		We have a big overlap, I think, of listeners and fans.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I think we do too.
		I think I'm trollish in some.
		Here's one.
		Like what I said earlier about tweeting about male feminists choking to death on vegan pizza.
		That's clearly trollish.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I don't find it even the remotest bit offensive.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It just strikes me as good government policy.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We just did three hours, man.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Shit, really?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was it.
		Flew by.
		And we could have done another three easily.
		How often are you?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We're only going to come to blows once on the gay stage.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We weren't coming to blows.
		We're just talking.
		That's what's fun.
		It's fun when people talk.
		I think we got more heated about Christianity than anything.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we did because you're a militant atheist.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even an atheist.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Refuse to accept the obvious truth that you're.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Here's the thing, though.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The moral code of the world.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is where people get me wrong.
		I am not an atheist.
		I'm not.
		I wouldn't even classify myself as anti-religious.
		I'm just, I don't believe people.
		I think people are full of shit.
		And when I read a story that's full of shit, first of all, I know too much about the construction of the Bible.
		I know too much about the New Testament.
		I know Constantine and a bunch of bishops constructed it and decided what to leave out.
		I know Constantine didn't even become a Christian until right before he fucking died.
		I know that the original Bible was written in ancient Hebrew.
		And to this day, there's a fucking shit ton of words in ancient Hebrew that they have no idea what the hell they mean.
		Not only that, that in ancient Hebrew, letters doubled as numbers.
		There were no numbers.
		So the letter A was also the number one.
		There was a numerical value to words and sentences that was completely lost in the translation to Latin and Greek and eventually English.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I know that you're well-read and passionate on this subject, so let's move on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Ah, we can't move on.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		We're three hours in.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's over.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not even anti-God.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I've had so much fun.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've had a great time.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		It's been great.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for having me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Fuck him, man.
		Anytime.
		If you're ever in town again, let's do it again.
		We could probably be able to be able to be able to do it.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		You can be sure I'll be back.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'll take that to my patent state.
		I really like a guest.
		We could do 100 of these.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've had a lovely time.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		And when you come to London, make sure you let me know and I'll take you out somewhere.
unidentified		Absolutely.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm usually in London like once a year.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How often are you in Los Angeles?
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Well I think I'm going to be around a lot more now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Oh, someone's got something cooking.
unidentified		I have.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		I have a little announcement coming in the next seven days, which will draw me to the U.S. much more often.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, you're a lot of fun.
		Your articles are fantastic.
		I really enjoy it.
		Your Twitter feed's great.
		Check it out.
		It's Nero.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Nero, like the Friday.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		The one who killed all the Christians.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That evil dude.
		That evil dude.
		That's who he is.
		By the way, congratulations on getting that as a Twitter handle.
		That's an excellent catch.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		Friends in low places.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Excellent catch.
milo yiannopolous ▲ ● ▼		All right.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's it, ladies and gentlemen.
		We'll be back tomorrow.
		Until then, go fuck yourselves.
		All right.
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		Thanks for all the love, ladies and gentlemen.
		I never take it for granted.
		I never forget.
		And I'm always very, very, very thankful.
		Never planned out any of this.
		It just sort of happened.
		And I love the fuck out of you guys.
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