March 7, 2015 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Weirdos like zone healers or fucking freaks who are doing strange things that really relies on someone believing in it. | ||
| And if someone does believe in it, then that placebo effect does kind of has some effect, but you don't want to rely on that fucking thing. | ||
| It's nice to know that there's actually some shit going on, not just, you know, I think I feel it. | ||
| The big one for me has always been forming sentences, because obviously I talk for a living. | ||
| I talk for a living, form sentences for a living, and my ability to recall words and to pull words up instantaneously is critical. | ||
| When dealing with hecklers at a comedy club, when recalling material, when recalling Techniques or going over techniques during a UFC card when you know trying to reference something during a podcast like that's so giant man For most people for everything when you're talking to a girl when you're in a business meeting when you're in an interview and You're just out hanging out. | ||
| It's nice to be able to not go oh Yeah, you know and have to think about those those dull moments You know we've all had those dull moments when you just woke up when someone's talking to you on the phone and you're You know it's that thing like I do those fucking radio interviews sometimes, man. | ||
| And a lot of times I have to do these radio tours, like start at like 6 o'clock in the morning when I wake up, like for UFCs and stuff like that. | ||
| I have to call up all these different radio stations. | ||
| And for the first 40 minutes, I'm a fucking moron, man. | ||
| It's like, it's so hard to fire up. | ||
| And it's like, that's one thing that's like, it's so critical to highlight. | ||
| Your brain is not at a static state. | ||
| It's just not. | ||
| It's constantly moving and flowing. | ||
| And what things like Alpha Brain can do, along with, of course, meditation, proper thinking techniques, how to manage your consciousness, managing your mind, they can get you or keep you in a more positive frequency, a better vibration, a better RPM, quicker RPM than you would be normal. | ||
| Better frequency for what you're trying to do. | ||
| I mean, you're dragging yourself out of sleep, which is theta state, which is really low, and sometimes delta state if you're a really good sleeper, which is at the very bottom part of the frequency. | ||
| And you're trying to drag yourself back out to that without, you know, and getting in the optimal frequency. | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| But yeah, these things can, and we've shown it now with these studies, help get you in that optimal brainwave frequency, which is pretty rad. | ||
| It's very exciting. | ||
| And the Boston Center for Memory, they tried a bunch of different shit this year that didn't do anything. | ||
| Yeah, so AlphaBrain broke a streak of 14 straight clinical trials from both pharmaceuticals and nutraceuticals that showed zero results. | ||
| So when they came back with the results, they were, like, pretty surprised and pretty stoked because they're used to just doing these trials, and they report every single one. | ||
| If it came back negative, they'd run the report, and they're pros. | ||
| You know, they're used to doing this. | ||
| And AlphaBrain broke that streak of 14 in a row that came back null results. | ||
| So they were fired up, especially because this is a product that has earth-grown nutrient ingredients, natural ingredients. | ||
| So natural ingredients on a healthy population and statistical significance You know, really extremely rare, according to them, from what they've seen. | ||
| And so they're pretty fired up. | ||
| Isn't it hilarious that so many different things that we consider earth-grown nutrients, you know, natural ingredients, natural ingredients, you look upon like, oh, what is that going to do? | ||
| It's like most of what you're putting in your body is supposed to be that stuff. | ||
| I mean, that's literally the building blocks of your fucking cells is vegetable matter, plant matter, protein, earth-grown nutrients. | ||
| That's what you're made out of. | ||
| Yeah, how do we get bigger? | ||
| How do we get bigger? | ||
| We get bigger because we eat these things and it becomes us, you know? | ||
| But it's funny that those things, I mean, especially, not alpha brain, obviously, because it's not illegal, but fuck, if they had found out about it a long time ago, it probably would have been illegal. | ||
| Cannabis is something that, of course, everyone that listens to this podcast knows pretty much how I feel about marijuana and how important I think it is for humanity. | ||
| But it's really, it's hitting home with me right now because I have a good friend whose mom is stage four cancer. | ||
| They took her off chemotherapy. | ||
| They put her on CBD oil. | ||
| They put her on hemp oil. | ||
| And I'm not suggesting anybody do this, by the way. | ||
| If you know someone who's on cancer, listen to your fucking doctor, okay? | ||
| Do whatever your doctor tells you to do. | ||
| However, I just want to tell you what is happening, my friend. | ||
| Because his mom, they pulled her off chemotherapy because they said she was too weak. | ||
| They said she can't do this anymore. | ||
| So he's panicking. | ||
| He's like, she's got a few months to live. | ||
| He gets her on that hemp oil, or the cannabis oil. | ||
| Her tumor shrank 30% inside of a month. | ||
| 30%. | ||
| She sleeps every night where she couldn't sleep before. | ||
| She eats all the time. | ||
| Her appetite is back. | ||
| She sleeps, her appetite is back, and her tumor has shrunk by 30 fucking percent inside of a month. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| And it shows just how, like, improving things a little bit can start a positive cascade. | ||
| Like, you improve just enough to sleep, and then the sleep starts improving things. | ||
| And then once you sleep enough, you can eat more, and that starts improving things. | ||
| So, even if the cannabis was only a 10% increase, maybe that got her to sleep, and then maybe the sleep got her to eat. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, it starts going on down the line and making a big improvement. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you can't discount any of the factors, even the chemotherapy, any of the things that she was doing, but the fact that the cannabis helped her so much, helped her sleep, helped her eat, and that in most states, except for, what, 18 now? | ||
| It's illegal. | ||
| And in Colorado right now, they're trying to get people to... | ||
| The sheriff's department and some other form of police department, they're trying to sue the state because they said they're upholding state and federal laws and they're not allowed to uphold the federal law against marijuana. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because their fucking arrests are down. | ||
| The arrests are down. | ||
| They're panicking. | ||
| They're going to have to lay off cops. | ||
| Their violent crime is down by something like 15%. | ||
| They have the lowest incidence of drunk driving they've ever had in the state. | ||
| And they're making fuckloads of money off of tax dollars. | ||
| Cannabis is taxed at 39% in Colorado. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| They're making so much money they had to give some back, right? | ||
| Yeah, it's hilarious. | ||
| Well, we're going to start selling marijuana eventually. | ||
| But right now, we're selling alpha brains. | ||
| So go to Onnit.com, O-N-N-I-T, use the code, Rogan, and you'll save 10% off any and all supplements. | ||
| Any other Onnit shit I could say before? | ||
| There's all kinds of cool shit going on, but we'll get on with the podcast. | ||
| We got a lot of cool shit, including this stuff. | ||
| What is this, maca shit I'm drinking? | ||
| Yeah, that matcha chai latte. | ||
| So a ton of turmeric in there, some matcha green tea, a lot of health benefits. | ||
| Real whole spice chai matcha. | ||
| It's a really good drink. | ||
| Makes you feel like a hippie. | ||
| Makes you want to be around people that have incense, like some sort of macrame project going on in the background. | ||
| Some carpet that's weird, weird earthy colors. | ||
| My people! | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Yeah, I'm down with a lot of hippies. | ||
| But just a few hippies would fucking ruin it for everybody else. | ||
| Yeah, hippies would try too hard. | ||
| They're like the vegan version of hippies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, yeah, right? | ||
| Like, they're just overzealous. | ||
| But that's with everything, man. | ||
| I mean, that's like the MMA dudes that wear those fucking t-shirts on it, you know, with skulls that have bullet holes in them and, you know, strangling chickens. | ||
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It's always some fucking guy who's taking it too far. | |
| Yeah, instead of just being, they're showing. | ||
| And as soon as you start showing, then it's a problem. | ||
| That's what it is with everything though, right? | ||
| I mean, pretty much with everything there is in this world. | ||
| What am I looking for here? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Should we cue the music? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do we do that still? | ||
| Yeah, we kind of do that still. | ||
| Boom. | ||
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Joe Rogan Podcast. | |
| Check it out. | ||
| The Joe Rogan Experience. | ||
| Train my day. | ||
| Joe Rogan Podcast. | ||
| My night. | ||
| All day. | ||
| I'm really worried that I lost my wallet. | ||
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Bye. | |
| That's the worst feeling. | ||
| Is it out there? | ||
| Yeah, go check out there, Jamie. | ||
| See if you can find it out there. | ||
| I don't think it is out there, though. | ||
| I think I left it on a table in a restaurant. | ||
| It's very possible. | ||
| When you have kids, dude, you lose your fucking mind because you don't know what you're doing at any given time. | ||
| You're always like, hey, don't eat that. | ||
| Put that down. | ||
| Don't stick your finger in there. | ||
| That's electrical. | ||
| Don't chew on wires. | ||
| Put that away. | ||
| Cars are coming. | ||
| Get over here. | ||
| You're a wrangler. | ||
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I don't have a wallet right now, so hopefully somebody knows where it is. | |
| We'll find out. | ||
| Jamie's taking too long because if it was out there, he would have found it. | ||
| We might be fucked. | ||
| Well, you know, it's the worst feeling ever, but it all works out. | ||
| Yeah, the only problem is I feel like I should do something about it before this restaurant closes. | ||
| Nothing? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Pause it. | ||
| We're gonna be right back. | ||
| I'm gonna check my truck real quick. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| You worried about me? | ||
| Dad, isn't that funny, man? | ||
| Like, some pieces of paper, some little cards you have on your wall that have your ID on. | ||
| I'm like, oh, no. | ||
| What if I get pulled over? | ||
| They're gonna take me to jail. | ||
| I read a horrible story about a dude who's going to jail because he's a garbage man and he was picking up the garbage before 7 a.m. | ||
| So they gave him a citation. | ||
| He goes in to deal with the citation and I don't know what he did. | ||
| He reached some agreement with the court or talked to someone who didn't understand the ramifications and they fucking sentenced him to 30 days in jail. | ||
| Oh, that's fair. | ||
| That's justice. | ||
| And, you know, I watch people, like, defend it online. | ||
| Well, he's picking up the garbage before people have a chance to put it out. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| You think it's okay to put that guy in a cage? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can put him in a cage. | ||
| And apparently they're allowing him to work. | ||
| During the week, and he's going to serve us 30 days on weekends. | ||
| So he's got a family, wife, kids, the whole deal. | ||
| That's like most of a year. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 30 weekends out of the year. | ||
| How fucking insane is that? | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| How insane is that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're arresting this guy, putting him in jail, because he picked up the garbage early. | ||
| What a weird world we live in, man. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I think we're going to look back at this time and we're just going to shake our head and think, we did some weird shit in this period. | ||
| Just like we look back now, 50 years ago, 100 years ago, I mean, people were giving each other lobotomies back a long time ago. | ||
| That's where they stick an ice pick in the corner of your eye and thrash it around. | ||
| They don't even know what they're doing. | ||
| I don't know how they're doing. | ||
| They're just trying to destroy shit. | ||
| And that was like an approved therapy, along with electroshock and all this weird shit. | ||
| You know, we'll look at some of the judicial system we have and be like, what were we thinking? | ||
| Yeah, well, do you remember, there was a documentary on Hunter S. Thompson. | ||
| And in the documentary, it was, I forget who he was supporting for president, but the vice president, it was a scandal, like as they were running for president, found out that he had gone through electroshock therapy. | ||
| He'd had a few moments where shit didn't work out right with his brain, and so they decided to juice this guy up. | ||
| I mean, what is that about? | ||
| That's like the equivalent of smacking your TV when the reception's not coming in. | ||
| Just walk up to it and fucking smack it and it works. | ||
| You're like, oh, okay. | ||
| Such a crude instrument to use, too, you know? | ||
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It's just like... | |
| Full on. | ||
| It's not like they're targeting anything, you know, like Dave Asprey might be doing now. | ||
| I mean, he still may not know exactly what he's doing, but at least he has an idea of a goal that he's going for when he's zapping his brain. | ||
| These guys was just like sticking a fork in the light socket. | ||
| Well, they had an episode of Radiolab about that stuff. | ||
| You know, something dermal, stimulation, electricity. | ||
| They're putting electrodes on certain parts of your brain. | ||
| It was really fascinating. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's definitely a new frontier that could show a lot of promise, but it's getting more exact. | ||
| The more you get from this crude version to the exact version, that's where it's going to start showing promise. | ||
| Well, that's what they were saying on the Radiolab thing, that they have a bunch of people that are essentially hackers. | ||
| That are creating their own home remedies, and they're attaching these things to them. | ||
| And, you know, sometimes they do it and they lose their sense of smell. | ||
| You know, like, juicing up weird parts of your brain. | ||
| You know, you see, like, weird things out of the corner of your eyes, your feet go numb. | ||
| Like, you're just, you're applying electricity to the outside of your head. | ||
| but there's been some things where they've shown like significant improvements including the ability to focus and the ability to learn tasks like they had this woman go through a sniper training thing she did it on the natch she does it she's terrible at it she knows like this video game where the hostage situations who do you shoot and she's missing everybody she gets like two out of you know whatever the fuck the number was she does it again they strap these things to her head she does the whole twenty minute course It's over like that. | ||
| And she goes, well, why was it over so quick? | ||
| And they go, that was 20 minutes. | ||
| And she goes, no, it wasn't. | ||
| So they show her the time. | ||
| Like, this was 20 minutes. | ||
| She hits every target. | ||
| 100% accuracy. | ||
| And she's like, what in the actual fuck just happened? | ||
| Like, they juiced her up with these electrodes and she became a fucking assassin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's awesome. | ||
| I wonder if it was manipulating the brainwave frequency, like getting her into that alpha state zone, or whether it was, you know, prefrontal cortex blood flow, or there's a lot of different things they can do, but I think there's a lot of promise in that field. | ||
| You know, it's a shortcut that we're starting to learn. | ||
| We're still, you know, most people at least are still... | ||
| White belts in how to manage the mind. | ||
| We're amateur race car drivers with this insanely complicated piece of machinery that most people don't understand the potential of. | ||
| And there's different states that you achieve almost accidentally. | ||
| You have a couple of shots, you're at the bar, you're playing pool, you can't fucking miss. | ||
| Everybody's been there. | ||
| You think you're Tom Cruise, you look away, you fire the ball dead in the heart of the pocket. | ||
| But try recreating that a few days later and it's gone. | ||
| Maybe even an hour from now it's gone. | ||
| I think that's why the ancients used to blame it on the gods. | ||
| It was like, ah, the gods are with me. | ||
| Hermes was holding my stick on the pool table, you know? | ||
| Whatever they had, because it's so crazy. | ||
| It's like, you don't know when it's going to come. | ||
| It's like you've been gifted by the divine. | ||
| And with the ancients, too, they only lived to be, like, 20. So, like, they had to, like, figure it out real quick. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Gods! | ||
| The gods have done this for us! | ||
| Okay, I think I have cancer. | ||
| See you guys later. | ||
| Probably wasn't even cancer, right? | ||
| The flu. | ||
| Syphilis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something that got all the ancients. | ||
| Yeah, they got the VD, right? | ||
| Who was the first dude to get VD? Who's that dirty bastard? | ||
| There had to be like a first guy. | ||
| Yeah, you'd think, right? | ||
| Unless it's just been around forever. | ||
| Just the bane of existence. | ||
| But it's funny that there's a specific disease. | ||
| Nobody catches the flu from eating pussy. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You get specific diseases from sex. | ||
| Sexually transmitted diseases. | ||
| Although Michael Douglas got that weird one from Eating So Much Box where he got throat cancer. | ||
| He says he didn't. | ||
| He says that that was bullshit. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But it coincided with his divorce, so I'm not sure if I buy it. | ||
| He might even try to sweet-talk his way back into Catherine Zeta-Jones. | ||
| What's her name? | ||
| That's her name? | ||
| That's the one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That didn't work out. | ||
| So they got divorced. | ||
| So maybe it was eating pussy. | ||
| Maybe if you pull them aside and go, come on, man, how much pussy do you eat? | ||
| Oh, good lord. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm imagining it's a lot. | ||
| I was actually at a dinner party where he was at, and he's the man. | ||
| As far as having just that natural charisma where you just want to just pull up a seat and listen to him tell a story, it could be about him getting a fucking Starbucks. | ||
| It didn't really matter. | ||
| When Michael Douglas was telling a story, it was like, whoa. | ||
| He's had a lot of experience, man, including catastrophic failures as a parent. | ||
| He's got a son that's in jail for drugs. | ||
| That's got to be really weird. | ||
| That often happens with those big-time movie star fellows and gals. | ||
| They become big-time movie stars and they just don't have enough time to raise their kids. | ||
| And then the kids are around these really super unhealthy environments and a lot of empty pleasure environments and a lack of understanding, discipline, and then also genetic predisposition to addictions that he had and obviously his son Charlie has. | ||
| You know, who knows, other folks in his family might have had as well. | ||
| It's a bittersweet life. | ||
| Yeah, it's challenging. | ||
| And I think the way that I look at it is it's extra pressure. | ||
| It's not like it's inevitable that you're going to be fucked up in that situation, but it's extra pressure. | ||
| And so you have to do extra things to be able to combat that. | ||
| You know, you really have to focus on your discipline. | ||
| Do things like... | ||
| You know, spiritual journeys and meditation and psychedelics and things that you got to say, listen, this is going to be the pressure of the world in this situation is going to try and steer me this way. | ||
| So I got to overcompensate by working that much harder to make sure I stay grounded and stay balanced. | ||
| But those, you know, those mechanisms aren't in place and they're not part of mainstream understanding. | ||
| So, you know, whereas maybe in 50 years, a person like Michael Douglas will be like, listen, Here's your 18th birthday. | ||
| You're going down to Peru. | ||
| I know this shaman really well. | ||
| I'll see you in two weeks. | ||
| And then every year thereafter, you're doing something else, you know, staying in an ashram for two weeks. | ||
| He's got to know that there's so much pressure that he can help kind of guide this. | ||
| But right now, it's just nobody knows that much. | ||
| Yeah, could you imagine if you grew up and your dad was a giant movie star and you go on the red carpet holding your dad's hand and you're like... | ||
| Also, you have to live in that guy's shadow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, what are you doing, man? | ||
| Oh, you run a bakery? | ||
| You're Michael Douglas's kid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Fucking dad's a- he won the Oscar! | ||
| I don't even know if he won an Oscar. | ||
| I'm sure he did. | ||
| One of those fucking things. | ||
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I'm sure. | |
| That's something or another, yeah. | ||
| You know, what a fucking weird batch of pressure that is. | ||
| You know, I have friends that their dads are, like, pretty successful, and they still, like, they're adults. | ||
| They live under the shadow of their dad. | ||
| Even if they're more successful than their dad. | ||
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It's like see you know fucking a pasture dad It's a weird dynamic They call that the Oedipal Complex, right? | |
| Where you have that urge to kill your father. | ||
| And it's not literally kill your father, but it means to overcome what his greatness was. | ||
| Be better than him in some way or another. | ||
| And fuck your mom. | ||
| And fuck your mother. | ||
| Yeah, I don't even know how to explain that part. | ||
| But yeah, that's part of this drive to be better than the generation before you. | ||
| It's why a lot of times, even in South America, the shamans, they train father to grandson rather than father to son. | ||
| They skip a generation to avoid that kind of power dynamic because they know it's going to be kind of fucked up. | ||
| If they're both practicing at the same time, it's always going to be weird. | ||
| That's really clever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's so clever that they do that. | ||
| It was probably out of just sheer necessity, you know? | ||
| I got a way better relationship with my grandfather than I ever did with my father. | ||
| My grandfather, like, there's no pressure on him. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You know, he'd already raised kids. | ||
| I was his, you know, his daughter's kid. | ||
| It was easy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Hung out with that dude, went fishing with him and shit, you know? | ||
| And he's not wrapped up in the ego of, that's my boy. | ||
| You know, that's a big problem that fathers get caught up in, too. | ||
| They identify with their children, and that becomes part of their identity. | ||
| And then they put so much pressure on these kids for their own benefit rather than just, hey, you're a human. | ||
| You know, what's best for you, buddy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's real hard for people, man. | ||
| I've seen that with people trying to dictate their children's careers. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I had a friend when I grew up who was Korean, and Korean families, I don't know if you have any Korean friends, but Korean families are incredibly hardworking, like incredibly strict, incredibly disciplined. | ||
| Like, he was one of the most disciplined people I've ever met. | ||
| He was on the National Taekwondo team when he was going through his, uh, he was going through medical school. | ||
| So he was in the middle of medical school, and he was also on the National Taekwondo team. | ||
| Like, well, fucking do that, man. | ||
| I mean, he won the nationals as a fucking medical student. | ||
| This guy, I mean, he was studying 16 hours a day, and he found time to train. | ||
| He would, in between training, or in between studying at the library, he would run stairs at his university. | ||
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Wow. | |
| He would just run the stairs. | ||
| Like, with his street clothes on. | ||
| And that's how he got some of his conditioning in. | ||
| Yeah, I've watched our researcher, Jarrett, as soon as he started medical school. | ||
| He was practicing BJJ. He was living in Brazil. | ||
| We met him in Brazil. | ||
| He's kind of stout, and he's just killing it in there. | ||
| I've seen the circles get deeper, and he's losing weight. | ||
| He still finds a little time here and there, but it's a grind. | ||
| I can't imagine that anybody thinks it's the way to do it. | ||
| I think everybody's just been doing it like that for so long, but how is it possible that they let doctors work these giant long-ass shifts completely exhausted and take care of people's medical issues and possibly fuck things up because they're exhausted, just because of fatigue? | ||
| Yeah, and it's kind of like that Navy SEAL type of training. | ||
| They put you through enough pressure in medical school or in BUDS training, as it is for the Navy SEALs, that they can trust you in battle with people's lives on the line. | ||
| And I think that's why they make medical school that hard. | ||
| It's like a gauntlet that if you pass this motherfucker, then you'll be able to handle these longships, especially when you're interning at a hospital and doing all those. | ||
| I think it's probably the right move for SEALs. | ||
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Right. | |
| But for doctors, I just feel like, Jesus, why don't you have more doctors? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, why don't you have extra doctors instead of making one guy work 18 hours a fucking day? | ||
| My friend Steve, I think you met Steve Graham, Dr. Steve. | ||
| When we were friends in Boston, he was going through his residency. | ||
| He was an ophthalmologist. | ||
| And he told me that he was on the toilet, taking a shit, with a tray of food in his lap. | ||
| He fell asleep and his buzzer went off. | ||
| And that's when he realized, like, like, what the fuck am I doing with my life? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He fell asleep on the toilet while he was eating. | ||
| And the buzzer, like his pager was back when he had pagers, doctors. | ||
| I think doctors still have pagers, some of them. | ||
| I think they actually do. | ||
| They're like still, they're the only ones with pagers. | ||
| Drug dealers and doctors. | ||
| Can you trace people through pagers? | ||
| No, you can't, there's no fucking payphones anymore. | ||
| So if you're a drug dealer and you're trying to do things on the street, like you have to have a toss-away phone. | ||
| You got burners. | ||
| You gotta have a burner phone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How long before they make those illegal? | ||
| Drug dealers and adulterers buying cricket phones all day. | ||
| Yeah, how many people like buy those legitimately? | ||
| How many people like buy burner phones and like, I just like, I like this phone. | ||
| This is my phone. | ||
| Like, nobody. | ||
| No. | ||
| 7-Eleven phones. | ||
| No, that doesn't happen. | ||
| One thing about doctors, people give doctors a hard time, especially because of this medical crisis that we're in, but I really don't think it's the doctor's fault. | ||
| They're trained to follow clinical research, and they do that really, really well. | ||
| They follow clinical research. | ||
| The problem is that the people funding clinical research have a vested interest. | ||
| They're researching products that they want to sell. | ||
| They're not researching, hey, let's see what happens if we feed this guy a natural diet and do that against placebo. | ||
| Well, that's a couple hundred grand that Nobody's paying for it because nobody's making any money off that. | ||
| So there's an absence of clinical research showing these other kind of functional medicine and non-profit ways that people can get healthy. | ||
| And I think that really, when you're looking at kind of correcting some of the issues in medicine, that's what needs to happen. | ||
| Big non-profit groups need to get together and start funding clinical trials for these things that have no profitable viability. | ||
| You know, just studying healthy diets, studying, you know, what happens if you float for, you know, every day for six weeks, studying what happens when you do all of these other things that you can't possibly make money off of, and I think that's going to make a big difference. | ||
| That is, and it's also, try talking to a doctor about something that's outside of his wheelhouse, and, you know, you've got to get a lot of, you know, like, what do you think about, you know, ask a doctor about, Meditation or oh yeah, you know that's not gonna that guy's fucking busy man He's got 18 different patients waiting in his office And that's not his field of study and you can't possibly know everything about the human body when it comes to Every single function of the human body all the different mechanisms involves in absorbing nutrients and absorbing like the different things | ||
| that can go wrong in various organs like you specialize They specialize for a reason. | ||
| There's a reason why foot doctors aren't also neurosurgeons, you know You can't be. | ||
| You can't be. | ||
| And it's sort of analogous to life. | ||
| Like, in life, you can't know everything about everything in life. | ||
| And doctors just, most, you run into a lot of doctors, and you don't want to trade bodies with them. | ||
| You know, like, you're a doctor. | ||
| Like, you're a guy who's supposed to be, like, managing, like, the health and wellness of these people that are in your care, at least as far as fixing them when shit goes wrong. | ||
| But you've got a pot belly, and you don't have an ass. | ||
| Like, you have bad posture, your neck is kind of slumped forward, like... | ||
| And you're a doctor. | ||
| So you're not on the ball with everything either. | ||
| No one is. | ||
| It's literally a virtual impossibility to be complete as far as your education about the entire human body and every single organ and everything that can go wrong and everything that you can do right to prevent all these things from going wrong. | ||
| And to really have a deep knowledge in the benefits of all these different things like yoga and meditation and super healthy, you know, nutrient-rich diets, you've got to do it. | ||
| You have to actually do that. | ||
| You have to have a shitty... | ||
| Like, Rich Roll, who's going to be on the podcast again soon, I've had him in the past, and he's an ultra-marathon runner who became this, like, fucking health and wellness fanatic, and he used to eat shit food and a terrible diet, and then started, like, juicing beets and eating healthy vegetables, and his whole body was like, what's going on? | ||
| And he, like, described, like, one day where he just got out and just started running. | ||
| Like, he had so much energy, he just started running. | ||
| Well, it takes a guy like that to give you... | ||
| I mean, obviously, it's an anecdotal experience. | ||
| It's just one guy's take on what happened, but... | ||
| Those stories are super important. | ||
| If you really do change your diet and throw a bunch of healthy, low-fat meats and high-nutrient vegetables Eat really healthy foods. | ||
| You will feel different. | ||
| Like your way you interface with the world will feel different. | ||
| Eat a lot of avocados and coconut oil. | ||
| Get those healthy fats for your brain. | ||
| You feel different. | ||
| No doubt about it. | ||
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It's undeniable. | |
| It's not a fucking aesthetic thing. | ||
| It's not like, I wanna look good on the beach, I'm gonna starve myself. | ||
| That's not even healthy. | ||
| Look at her, she's not even healthy. | ||
| Like, I saw this photo. | ||
| These chicks were bombing on this girl. | ||
| It was hilarious. | ||
| Because it was a girl who was just thin. | ||
| She was just thin. | ||
| She didn't look like she was anorexic at all. | ||
| But all these women were just shitting on her body. | ||
| Like, oh God, get her a sandwich. | ||
| Oh God, she's too thin. | ||
| She has thin bones, man. | ||
| You look at this girl, that's how she's built. | ||
| But nobody wants to accept that. | ||
| They want to think that there's something wrong with this girl. | ||
| You're supposed to be overflowing over the top of your fucking jeans. | ||
| You're supposed to have big floppy meat bags in between your legs that rub together when you walk. | ||
| It's easier to think that than to go the other way. | ||
| That's healthy. | ||
| She's not healthy. | ||
| The best doctor I know is Dr. Engel, and we work with him on it. | ||
| So he was trained as a psychiatrist, clinical forensic child psychiatry, got his MD, and then was like, I don't really think this is the whole picture. | ||
| So he was like, alright, I'm going to go completely the other way. | ||
| Went down to South America and did 40 sessions of ayahuasca in 60 nights. | ||
| And did way too much, like fried himself to a certain degree. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| So then he had to go live in a tent for a little while, figure some shit out. | ||
| He's like, that was way too much. | ||
| So he lived in a tent on a land for like a year, and then he started studying different kind of functional medicine, but he put himself in the lab with all these things. | ||
| Sometimes he screwed up, sometimes he got it right, but now he's able to combine, you know, the best part of Western medicine is MD, the best part of, you know, the shamanistic practices from South America, the best part of functional medicine and natural medicine, and kind of put it all together, and that's That's where the doctors can become great. | ||
| Because maybe they're not specialists, but the problem with specialists is everything in the body is interconnected and related. | ||
| So if you're only specializing in one thing, you're going to focus on that potentially to the detriment of the rest of your body. | ||
| So having that at least basic understanding of the connection between all the parts of the body is incredibly valuable for a doctor. | ||
| And then also putting themselves through all the things. | ||
| How are you going to talk shit on what ayahuasca can do unless you've done it? | ||
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Right. | |
| There's no way to know what that experience is. | ||
| Same with prescribing these drugs. | ||
| It's like you're prescribing drugs that you've never even taken. | ||
| How do you know what this is going to do to somebody? | ||
| It's a weird kind of place that we're in right now. | ||
| Well, I have a friend... | ||
| Have some of that, fella? | ||
| It's good for you. | ||
| I have a friend who... | ||
| Her husband went over to Germany for artificial disc replacement. | ||
| And he's fucked. | ||
| His back is fucked. | ||
| And so they replaced a bunch of his discs. | ||
| And uh, he's way better now. | ||
| Like, way better now. | ||
| He's skiing again. | ||
| Like, his back was fucked. | ||
| And apparently they have these discs in Germany, these artificial discs, that they just can't sell in America. | ||
| They just can't sell them. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| They're just not ready yet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For whatever reason. | ||
| Maybe there's a good reason. | ||
| I mean, maybe they're more thorough over here, and maybe they prevent people from, you know, having to get those old silicone breast implants pulled out, like that kind of shit. | ||
| Yeah, when one pops. | ||
| Giving you fucking lupus or some shit, and that happens to people. | ||
| They get autoimmune disorders because their tits leak. | ||
| Yeah, but these discs, Braulio Estima got one in his neck. | ||
| He had a jujitsu injury and a really bad neck injury where he's temporarily paralyzed and the whole deal. | ||
| Went and got his disc replaced. | ||
| Fought, won the World Championships afterwards, his fight in MMA afterwards. | ||
| I mean, he's gone through this incredibly devastating injury, and with an artificial disc in his neck, still getting yanked on. | ||
| He's still getting choked. | ||
| Not that often. | ||
| He's pretty fucking good. | ||
| He doesn't really get choked very often. | ||
| But the point being, he's got full functionality. | ||
| And so does this guy. | ||
| This guy had discs fused in his back. | ||
| Went to Germany, they opened all that shit up, unfused his discs, I guess. | ||
| I don't know if they did that. | ||
| And they put these artificial discs in place, and now he's fucking moving around. | ||
| Like, it's crazy! | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| But I was talking to my doctor about it. | ||
| I go, so they don't do that in America? | ||
| You can't do it in America. | ||
| But do you recommend it? | ||
| He goes, I definitely recommend it. | ||
| If you have the funds, like if someone has got a really fucked up back and they have the funds, he's like, yeah, it's worth doing. | ||
| And it's not like Germany's a free-for-all. | ||
| And a lot of things, they're even more strict than us. | ||
| I mean, I'm pretty sure all vitamins are pharmaceuticals pretty much in Germany. | ||
| Like, we can't sell shit in Germany. | ||
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Really? | |
| Because they control everything very carefully out there. | ||
| So... | ||
| They prescribe them, though, at least? | ||
| They prescribe vitamins? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I'm not an expert on that, but I know the prohibition for us sending anything, even our vitamin C supplements, and they're like, no, no, no vitamin C. That's a pharmaceutical. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Whoa. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| But, yeah, I mean. | ||
| Well, that's what they invented, that Regenikine, which I'm a giant fan of. | ||
| You know, I've had that done several times now, man. | ||
| You want to talk about something that just cuts your injury, like, the recovery time down radically. | ||
| It's very expensive, but if you have something that's really fucking with you, a nagging injury, oftentimes it just nips that shit in the bud. | ||
| It's available finally in America, but insurance doesn't cover it. | ||
| You have to pay for it yourself. | ||
| But it's like, what is this insurance? | ||
| Like, why doesn't this... | ||
| And they, like, it's off-label. | ||
| Like, what does this mean? | ||
| Like, I'm not complaining that it's here. | ||
| I'm happy that at least you could use it, because you still can't do the artificial discs or any of that other shit. | ||
| But it's going to come a point in time where you've got to go, is this the most efficient system? | ||
| Yeah, no doubt. | ||
| I think really we're at a really cool time where all kinds of new shit is coming out and it's going to be like the best of what technology can do and I think the next big piece is going to become in harnessing what the mind can do. | ||
| I was doing a little bit of research because I'm doing a lot of writing now and there was a study published in 2002 where they took 180 patients and they gave half of them a fake placebo knee surgery and the other half arthroscopic knee surgery. | ||
| But everybody thought they were getting real knee surgery. | ||
| So it was placebo-controlled knee surgery. | ||
| And the results were absolutely on par. | ||
| The people who got placebo-controlled knee surgery were cruising around. | ||
| They were walking around fine. | ||
| And people who got actual arthroscopic knee surgery were also doing a lot better as well. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| So, I mean, and that's something that isn't tested very often in surgery because people don't think, how do you do a placebo surgery? | ||
| Well, they've done that with, there's a study in the 1950s that did it with a particular type of heart surgery where people, they gave people placebo heart surgery and real surgery. | ||
| The results were on par. | ||
| And so I think understanding how much that plays an effect, because if you go to surgery and you come out and you're all right, you think you're fixed. | ||
| You know, like, man, the doctors are in there. | ||
| They know shit. | ||
| They were cutting shit up. | ||
| They were sewing it up. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| So that placebo effect, even in surgery, is dramatic. | ||
| It's huge. | ||
| And I think, really, the frontiers of medicine are going to be harnessing the stuff that really does work and add benefit, and then us tapping into these latent resources in our mind and using belief to help speed up and facilitate even additional healing. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| On the other hand, I really appreciate the fact that there's steps that people have to go through before they can sell a pharmaceutical drug. | ||
| Because we've all been... | ||
| Aware of someone and close to us or something that had an adverse effect of some Pharmaceutical drug that you see in those late-night commercials. | ||
| Were you one of the ones who took Vioxx or Fen-Fen? | ||
| Remember Fen-Fen? | ||
| Goddamn son that fucked people's hearts up like for life Like there's people that have like fucking tricky hearts now because of some diet pills Lose fat but and your life Yeah, man, I know a dude who had a stroke because he was taking Guy Metzger, UFC fighter, former champion, a great fighter, great guy too, really cool guy. | ||
| Yeah, I met him. | ||
| He got a fucking stroke from Vioxx, dude. | ||
| He's taking this shit for arthritis in his knees and all of a sudden he starts slurring his words and everyone's like, um, Guy, something's going on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They take him in, they find out he's got a stroke. | ||
| You know, and on top of a lifelong career of MMA fighting, he was actually talking about some interesting therapy that he's going through. | ||
| Something that's really benefited him, benefited his balance. | ||
| See if you can pull that up. | ||
| Guy Metzger, I don't have a laptop in front of me, but Guy Metzger discusses brain trauma video. | ||
| It's really interesting. | ||
| First of all, because... | ||
| Guy Metzger, who is a pioneer. | ||
| I mean, I called one of his fights, one of his early UFC fights in 97. You know, I've known that guy for a long time. | ||
| He's always been like a super stand-up, looks like a movie star, looks like a hero in a movie. | ||
| He's been just a cool dude, like always. | ||
| And even in this situation, it's really cool because he's super honest about how he feels, like how he feels physically as opposed to how he used to feel and like what was going wrong. | ||
| And he talked about the improvements that he had. | ||
| It's hilarious, actually, because he talks about the improvements that he has. | ||
| Like, you know, he's talking about brain trauma from fighting and then a stroke. | ||
| And then later on, he's talking about now he can spar again. | ||
| He's sparring with some fucking young whippersnapper that came into his gym, and the doctor's like, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
| He's like, don't worry, he didn't hit me. | ||
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He's like, you didn't hit me! | |
| You're in there fucking sparring, man! | ||
| But, you know, he's a world champion. | ||
| When you're a guy like Guy Massacre, he has legit striking skills, too. | ||
| It's fun for him. | ||
| It's like being a chess master and not being able to play chess anymore. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| That's where he gets his jollies. | ||
| Is this it? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I'm just asking you. | ||
| Let me see, play it, and I'll tell you if it is. | ||
| Yeah, this is it. | ||
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You'll be able to move around without your cane. | |
| Especially vets with brain injuries. | ||
| I don't believe we do enough. | ||
| To be honest, I think we give a lot of lip service to helping our vets, but not a lot of action. | ||
| Some Metzger's changing that. | ||
| This is a different thing, but this is cool that he's doing that. | ||
| Keep your hands up, son. | ||
| He's in Addison, Texas. | ||
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Working alongside the Carrick Brain Centers in Irving, Metzger knows what a brain injury does to a person. | |
| He has one, too. | ||
| I had a 17-year-long professional fight career, and I had a medicine-induced stroke, and I have a brain tumor. | ||
| Metzger believes the combat training that works for him will make our military heroes We try to attach these guys back to that element that made them become, you know, soldiers in the first place. | ||
| This is a different thing. | ||
| See if you can find the other one, because the other one he details is therapy that he went through that helped him. | ||
| But that's cool that you can see from that video what kind of a guy he is. | ||
| So what was important was that he was talking about it in this really honest way, like his balance is all fucked up. | ||
| He wasn't trying to shield himself, like, hey, I still got it, don't worry about that. | ||
| You know, he was being like real humble and honest about the state that he's in. | ||
| They're making some headway with brain trauma. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| There's some therapies that are effective. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| And I think it's going to come from a basket of really cures at this point. | ||
| You know, everybody, it's not going to be one magic bullet. | ||
| It's going to be a variety of different things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And stacking these modalities, like CBD has some potential. | ||
| Intranasal liposomal glutathione has some potential. | ||
| Floating has some potential. | ||
| Microdosing psilocybin might have some potential. | ||
| There's been shown some neurogenesis that comes from that. | ||
| But all of these things that are... | ||
| Disparate right now. | ||
| I think ultimately maybe when put together might be the solution. | ||
| Yeah, that's the solution, right? | ||
| The solution is it's not an either-or thing It's not of you have to go the conventional route with pharmaceutical drugs and a doctor's prescription or you go the fruitcake route with holistic medicine You're doing yoga and eating fucking kelp. | ||
| It doesn't have to be it could be all the good stuff all the good stuff the good stuff that seems woo-woo You talk to people who do kundalini yoga. | ||
| I knew this lady. | ||
| She's a sweetheart. | ||
| I still know her. | ||
| And she's a kundalini teacher. | ||
| Is she blazing hot? | ||
| Because a lot of kundalini teachers are. | ||
| She was at one point in time. | ||
| I mean, she's still attractive, but she's an older woman now. | ||
| But she was beautiful when she was young. | ||
| She's beautiful now. | ||
| I love her. | ||
| She's a good person. | ||
| But my point is, I don't want to disparage her in any way. | ||
| She's so woo-woo. | ||
| She's so woo-woo, it's fucking crazy. | ||
| You can't talk to her about anything. | ||
| You go onto her property, if you go to where her house is, she makes you stand in a certain place and say your blessings and ask for the earth and the woods to embrace you. | ||
| She's not bullshitting, man. | ||
| She really means that. | ||
| And she will tell you that kundalini yoga and this practice of yoga has changed her being, changed who she is as an individual. | ||
| Now, I'd say, oh, she's some woo-woo crazy bitch. | ||
| With all due respect. | ||
| With love. | ||
| Crazy bitch. | ||
| I call myself a crazy bitch. | ||
| But then my friend Denny got into it. | ||
| Denny Propokos? | ||
| And Denny, you know Denny. | ||
| Denny, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, black belt, world champion as a brown belt, no Gi Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| I mean, he's a bad motherfucker and a very good friend. | ||
| And he's not a bullshit artist at anything. | ||
| And he started getting deep into Kundalini. | ||
| And he started doing it every day, and he said, dude, I'm tripping balls. | ||
| He goes, I'm telling you, when I'm in full Kundalini mode, because Danny's super disciplined, and the type of discipline that you need to be a high-level competitive Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt is the same kind of discipline that if applied to yoga, you know, like a constant attention and focus on achieving these states. | ||
| I now believe... | ||
| All the stuff that I used to think was horseshit. | ||
| I mean, it's really kind of egotistical that I thought... | ||
| I just thought there was too much... | ||
| There's so much shenanigans going on. | ||
| I mean, for whatever reason, I would hear people talk about these yoga states where they would achieve full-on DMT realm states. | ||
| And I'd be like, sure you did. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I just didn't believe them. | ||
| I thought they were like... | ||
| You know how people who eat vegan food always tell you it tastes amazing? | ||
| They're always, it's like, eh, it's never like, it's kind of cardboardy. | ||
| That chicken with the apostrophe on it tastes just like chicken? | ||
| But you know what I'm saying? | ||
| It's like they're overly enthusiastic to the point where their opinion or their taste is not, you don't consider it without reservation. | ||
| But Denny, I consider him without reservation. | ||
| I know him so well. | ||
| So he tells me he's hitting these states. | ||
| I was like, whoa. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the kundalini yoga is... | ||
| I think, well, first of all, the problem that a lot of people have is they stack extra shit on top of the good stuff. | ||
| That's just complete nonsense, right? | ||
| And that makes you want to discard the whole thing. | ||
| Like, some of this woman's other practices were probably the majority of why you went, man, everything you're doing is whack, because I know some of this is whack, and I think that's an issue to make. | ||
| But the actual kundalini yoga, I had a podcast with a former Navy SEAL, this guy Michael Vega, And he was on 11 different pharmaceuticals and that's another big problem with the military is they really over prescribe psychological meds for these people and interactions can be a problem. | ||
| But he was on 11, couldn't sleep, full PTSD, totally fucked up. | ||
| And then his process was exactly the same. | ||
| He stopped taking the meds and started doing Kundalini Yoga, which he stumbled upon. | ||
| And he's actually out here. | ||
| And that was the key for him to reverse his PTSD. And this is an old Navy SEAL, like a real deal combat vet, you know, in the shit kind of guy. | ||
| And that's the method that worked. | ||
| You know, it kind of makes sense if you think about it, because that applies to almost everything else. | ||
| There's someone out there that does it so well that if you experience them doing it you go, oh Now I get it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like we've all seen that like I've never taken any music lessons at all but I have friends that play guitar and I had a friend that would play classical guitar and He'd do flamencos and shit, and he would grow his fingernails long and shit, like the whole deal. | ||
| He had to put nail polish over him, and he was my friend from the time we were like 15. And he would go crazy with this fucking guitar. | ||
| You could see his fingers move, and he'd play this crazy flamenco music, and you would realize that it's possible. | ||
| But until I saw him do it, like with my fucking fat, stupid fingers, and like, I don't... | ||
| I mean, I guess you could get there, but I've never seen anybody get there. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| You've got to see it. | ||
| And it's the same with martial arts. | ||
| I remember being a kid, watching black belts for the first time, watching people throw kicks, and watching people like this guy specifically, this guy John Lee. | ||
| I remember watching him hit the bag. | ||
| And now knowing that that was possible, where that was in my mind, what he was doing, the amount of power that he had, the speed that he had, and The execution, the perfect technique, didn't exist in my head. | ||
| There was no model for it. | ||
| So to watch someone do it in the flesh was all of a sudden, it was like, whoa, this is a real thing. | ||
| This is possible. | ||
| You could achieve that level. | ||
| Whereas, you take the average person and tell them to go kick something, it's going to look ridiculous. | ||
| But this guy had it all polished down to this tornado move. | ||
| Wham! | ||
| Wham! | ||
| And he just had the motions down. | ||
| And it was fascinating to watch. | ||
| And so because of that, I aspire to achieve a similar level of proficiency that this guy had. | ||
| That was my goal. | ||
| To get as good as John Lee. | ||
| And so, when you look at Kundalini Yoga, it's gotta be the same thing. | ||
| It's gotta be. | ||
| With every discipline, you get better at it. | ||
| Every time I do yoga, I get a little bit better at it. | ||
| Every time I hit poses, I get a little better. | ||
| I can go into them deeper. | ||
| My body is more comfortable there. | ||
| I set into it better. | ||
| My balance is better. | ||
| And you gotta think that, I'm not doing it that often. | ||
| You gotta think these motherfuckers that are doing it every day. | ||
| They're getting into these crazy places. | ||
| And I'm not doing Kundalini yoga. | ||
| I'm doing just stretching and all that kind of... | ||
| I don't know what you would even call it, what the discipline is. | ||
| But the Kundalini is specifically designed, according to Denny... | ||
| To try to stimulate these psychedelic states. | ||
| Yeah, and what they're using is breath, and you know, you can get that in a variety of different ways. | ||
| And the other thing that I've done is called holotropic breathing, which is pretty much like kundalini yoga without the yoga aspect. | ||
| And kundalini yoga has very little to do with stretching. | ||
| It's mostly getting in postures and breathing really, you know, deep breaths frequently and kind of drawing, visualizing, it's a visualization, visualizing drawing energy up. | ||
| From your kundalini center, which is the base of your body, and then doing these breath works. | ||
| And I've felt what can happen when you're in these, you know, hyper-oxygenated states. | ||
| And it's really, really powerful. | ||
| I haven't done the kundalini yoga in like a proper session. | ||
| I've just done it a little bit where you kind of bounce up and down and you're breathing and getting these things. | ||
| But it's accessing that same mechanism, which is basically flooding your body with oxygen and creating these seemingly psychedelic states. | ||
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| Yeah, seemingly. | ||
| I mean, they are psychedelic. | ||
| I mean, I would like to see some studies done on what's going on when you're doing that holotropic breathing. | ||
| Like, if you hit, like, a peak, if they could put those EFMG or whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| Yeah, for sure, EKG. What is it? | ||
| Functional. | ||
| FMRI. FMRI. If they could put that on you. | ||
| All the various ways they have of monitoring what the fuck's going on in your dome. | ||
| If they could do that while you were in that, like, if you got to that psychedelic state and you told them, I was there, I was there, and like, okay, let's look at the chart and see. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, they'd probably see it in a lot of things. | ||
| They'd see it in blood flow. | ||
| They'd see it in brainwave activity. | ||
| They'd see it in a variety of things. | ||
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I want to know what happens when you're killing on stage. | |
| I want to know what that is. | ||
| I bet it's in that 10 Hertz alpha frequency. | ||
| That would be probably exactly where you want to be for that. | ||
| Creative, everything's easy, it's smooth, you lose track of time. | ||
| I mean, that's the characteristic of that 10 Hertz kind of window, that sweet spot, that flow state. | ||
| There's a weird state you hit. | ||
| It's a weird state you hit when everything's cracking. | ||
| I love watching other people kill, too, because I could kind of see them in that state. | ||
| I'm like, oh, he's in there! | ||
| Joey Diaz is one of the best examples, because Joey will reach these states, and he'll say things off the top of his fucking head that you would swear somebody would labor for years to try to come up with a line as beautiful and poetic. | ||
| And he'll say it, and then after it comes out of his mouth, he starts laughing, because he's laughing at it, because he didn't even know he was going to say it. | ||
| And he's like... | ||
| And you realize, like, that guy's gone. | ||
| He's gone. | ||
| And he's addicted to it. | ||
| It's totally addicted to killing. | ||
| That's funny you say that, because I talked with Stephen Kotler, who wrote this book, The Rise of Superman, and they've done a lot of studies on these flow states. | ||
| And when you're in this flow state, you're releasing a concoction of five different endogenous drugs. | ||
| And I can't name them off the top of my head, but he makes the argument that flow state is by far the most addictive substance in the world. | ||
| Because you're getting dopamine, you know, norepinephrine, all of these different endogenous drugs basically get flooded through your body and nothing feels better. | ||
| I mean, you can chase a high every other which way, but once you've felt that, you're going to want to get back to that more and more. | ||
| I mean, it's incredibly addictive, incredibly productive, but also addictive. | ||
| Yeah, any guy that's ever done anything dangerous, we've talked to BMX folks or Skateboarders or any of those extreme sports maniacs, those guys for sure are addicted to that experience. | ||
| The rush of danger and pulling it off. | ||
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| You know, you see those guys when they do a flip and then they land and they're like, fuck yeah! | ||
| It's like the universe is charging them like Highlander and shit like a lightning bolts going through him if you watch Chuck Liddell when Chuck Liddell would win He's the best example of that state because he would win and he would throw his arms back and roar and Yell with his chest poked out pull up pull up a video of Chuck Liddell Celebrating there's like a there's compilations of him celebrating yeah, | ||
| and When he was in his prime, dude, you want to talk about, like, if you wanted the guy to recruit new fans, if you said, man, what is this MMA thing? | ||
| Watch this motherfucker. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| The most badass celebration? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| It's like an edited version? | ||
| Yeah, find one where they don't do their own dance mix to it. | ||
| Just show it, man. | ||
| Just show it. | ||
| And hardly anybody are ever going to feel that, that same thing. | ||
| But we can all taste it in our own certain little ways. | ||
| But if you could bottle that feeling... | ||
| Forget about it. | ||
| Everybody would just hit that button as many times as possible. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| And you don't deserve it. | ||
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No. | |
| You don't deserve it. | ||
| You have to do what he did to get there. | ||
| You have to fight Babalusa Brawl, Tito Ortiz. | ||
| You've got to fight Kevin Randleman. | ||
| You've got to fight all those fucking guys. | ||
| You've got to fight Rampage Jackson. | ||
| You've got to fight Aleister over him. | ||
| You've got to fight those guys. | ||
| If you don't fight those guys, you don't deserve that feeling. | ||
| Like, he's in there with murderers, and he's throwing haymakers. | ||
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| And when he was at his best, dude, god damn, he was a ferocious motherfucker. | ||
| You know, his style almost like, it kind of did him in. | ||
| Because he was so aggressive and he was so willing to take one to give one. | ||
| He wanted to get you into a war of wills. | ||
| He was like, dude, there's no way. | ||
| There's no, you just, you don't understand, there's no way. | ||
| You're gonna hit me and it's not gonna hurt and I'm gonna fucking kill you. | ||
| If you stand in front of me, I'm gonna smash your face in. | ||
| And that was like his style. | ||
| Skillful, of course. | ||
| I mean, he did have good defensive skills, but he would oftentimes abandon them just with rage and just go after opponents. | ||
| So if you wanted the perfect guy, if you wanted to show somebody, I want you to watch MMA. Watch a Chuck Liddell fight in his prime. | ||
| You'd be like, fucking Christ, man. | ||
| When he beats up Tito Ortiz and he has him up against the cage, he's just... | ||
| Just fucking unloading these combinations, and Tito starts to slump down. | ||
| Fucking Christ, man. | ||
| I mean, Jesus Christ. | ||
| That guy was a fucking warrior in there. | ||
| And raw. | ||
| Raw had all of those feelings. | ||
| That's why when he throws his arms back, you appreciate it. | ||
| It's not like a guy who just decisioned a guy to death. | ||
| He blanketed him, got on top of him, threw little baby punches. | ||
| No, this is a guy who just threw his soul at a guy. | ||
| Came out triumphant. | ||
| He's like, rawr! | ||
| You don't get that roar if you barely win by a split decision in a fight where you didn't take any chances, where you, you know, you did the right thing, but you stifled them up against the cage and put them to the ground and got on top of them and didn't really make any risks. | ||
| No, you only get that when you go balls-out barbarian style. | ||
| Like, look at that picture. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| There's no video? | ||
| It seems like contact... | ||
| How is there no video of this? | ||
| Zufa. | ||
| How dare you, Zufa, my employers? | ||
| My last employers. | ||
| It seems like contact sports are some of the best ways to get that. | ||
| I mean, you'll see that also when, like, a running back runs over three different giant men who've been training their whole life to bring them down. | ||
| They get in there, and you'll get a tight taste of that. | ||
| Probably none quite the same as Chuck Liddell, but something about these contact sports where you're actually just... | ||
| In it and just getting pounded by different other, you know, individuals and then triumphing releases that massive feeling. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I never experienced that. | ||
| I never, like, any tournament that I won or anything like that, I always felt weird after it was over. | ||
| I never felt, I felt relief because it was over and now I can relax. | ||
| I did feel good about it later when I thought about, like, yeah, I fucking won. | ||
| Wow, I have a trophy. | ||
| I could look at it. | ||
| Like, this is mine. | ||
| I won this. | ||
| But when it was over, like, the state of mind, even if I won by knockout, especially even if I won by knockout, because then I was always like, fuck, that could have been me. | ||
| Like, I'm not even making any money doing this. | ||
| I'm out here throwing kicks at people, and they're kicking me, and I'm kicking them, and look what happened to this fucking kid. | ||
| I don't even know this kid. | ||
| I don't even know this kid, and I just put him in the hospital. | ||
| Like, this is ridiculous. | ||
| That's what I would think. | ||
| I would never be like, rawr! | ||
| That's why I had to quit. | ||
| Not designed for this shit. | ||
| Not getting enough juice. | ||
| Yeah, there's something missing. | ||
| I was also too aware of the potential downsides. | ||
| I was an early-on adapter of head trauma paranoia. | ||
| Because I'm pretty honest about... | ||
| I think one of the things about being a martial artist, at least for me, the way I got better at it quicker, is that I was super honest about all the shit that I did wrong. | ||
| I never tried to pretend anything was better than what it was. | ||
| I would look at everything and I'd never be satisfied. | ||
| All the techniques, I'd be like, that's not crisp enough. | ||
| The weight transfer is not hard enough. | ||
| Whatever it was, I'd be like, I've got to just keep drilling this over and over and over again. | ||
| And because of that, I was acutely aware of my performance levels, which is why when I started getting hit in the head a lot, I started looking at the performance of my thinking and I was like something's off. | ||
| There's something going on here. | ||
| Like I'm feeling a very small and I'm trying to attribute it to fatigue. | ||
| Like maybe it's because of fatigue. | ||
| Maybe it's because I'm tired because I've been training a lot because I'm fighting. | ||
| And then I was like, maybe I'm getting hit in the head too much. | ||
| And I was like, whoa, fuck, man. | ||
| And then I started thinking about these people that you see in life. | ||
| Like you run into some old dude and he's hunched over and he's got a cane. | ||
| You don't think of that guy as being a three-year-old running in his dad's backyard laughing and giggling and impervious to injury and flopping down on his butt and just getting right back up because he's only three inches off the ground. | ||
| No, you look at a decaying creature. | ||
| Who's reached the final slide of his existence in this dimension. | ||
| He's on the way out. | ||
| You don't see the full journey. | ||
| And I think we think of these guys that you run into in the gym that are punchy. | ||
| And you think of them and you go, oh, that fucking guy, man. | ||
| Yeah, he's punch drunk. | ||
| That guy didn't used to be punch drunk, though. | ||
| He used to be a regular guy. | ||
| He used to be a regular guy that you could talk to. | ||
| And now he's in this weird place. | ||
| And I didn't compete that long, especially with a lot of head blows. | ||
| Way more head blows in boxing and kickboxing, which all happened in the last two or three years that I was doing martial arts, like really intensely in competing. | ||
| So, I don't think I took too much. | ||
| But when I think about people that I know, that I know are fucked up now, that bothers me, man. | ||
| It's one of the main things that bothers me about the sport. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| And it's, you know, it's interesting. | ||
| It's like choosing this lifestyle that you know can give you access to these feelings, like maybe Chuck Liddell felt, that.0000001% of the whole world will ever feel. | ||
| You get access to a little piece of that, but it comes at a terrible price, you know, if you stick with it too long. | ||
| If you stick with it too long, and that's the problem, is what we were talking about earlier, is the addiction. | ||
| The addiction to that fucking rush, that rush, that wild feeling. | ||
| Like I said, I never felt it like that. | ||
| Well, you look at some of the people who are really intriguing me right now, and they have a different kind of attitude when they're in there. | ||
| Sometimes they can feel it. | ||
| Someone like Jon Jones, for example, is a good example of that, where it's just so... | ||
| Calculated, calm, and flow. | ||
| You know, everything looks like it's... | ||
| You know, you don't see that rage come out of him in the cage anymore. | ||
| And so he's so efficient at making great guys look silly. | ||
| And even Connor, even though he's just starting out and he's got a lot of tougher guys to fight, he has a little bit of that element, too, where everything just looks easy for him. | ||
| And I think that's the next wave because and they're gonna they're gonna deny themselves maybe some of the pleasure on the other side But their performance in that level in that mode is gonna be pretty fucking tough to beat Yeah, this it's very interesting seeing these various styles that are emerging You know one of the things that I really love about the UFC I and this is as a person who's seen it From the really early days, | ||
| you know, I started watching UFC 2 and being able to call more than a thousand fights live from just a few feet away. | ||
| You're seeing, it's like a mathematical equation. | ||
| You're seeing, like, what are the benefits of being 265 pounds built like Brock Lesnar versus what are the benefits of a superior gas tank like Cain Velasquez and really good wrestling skills. | ||
| What are the benefits of crisp technique over what are the benefits of rage and aggression and muscle? | ||
| What are the benefits of a pace that no one can keep up with versus a guy who throws knockout blows but gets tired after the second round? | ||
| Like, where's the numbers? | ||
| So now I'm looking at it. | ||
| Not just as individuals with unique personalities, unique physical skills. | ||
| We all know guys like Hector Lombard. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| That's a unique physical specimen. | ||
| Period. | ||
| There's no denying that. | ||
| You just can't deny it. | ||
| That's not a regular dude. | ||
| He doesn't move like a regular dude. | ||
| He's not going to hit you like a regular dude. | ||
| So there's a massive benefit in that. | ||
| His skull somehow has muscles that attach to his traps. | ||
| I don't even know how that's possible. | ||
| He's so stupid strong, too, dude. | ||
| You watch him, like, fight Tim Bosch. | ||
| Tim Bosch is, like, a really big 185. And Tim Bosch is strong as fuck, dude. | ||
| And Tim Bosch would go to takedown, and Hector snapped him down and sprawled like I have never seen a 5'8 man do to a big... | ||
| Fucking Viking looking dude like Tim Bosh. | ||
| He just grabs him and snaps him down like fucking Christ. | ||
| How strong is that dude? | ||
| Like he's like way through Jake Shields around who the fuck has ever done that before? | ||
| Who's ever done that before? | ||
| He flipped Jake Shields through the air and hip-tossed him. | ||
| Jake Shields is a world-class Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. | ||
| He competed against Marcelo Garcia, Cameron Earl. | ||
| I mean, he was in the mix against John Fitch. | ||
| He grappled against some really top-level competition and performed very well in straight jiu-jitsu. | ||
| So to watch him just get fucking thrown through the air with the greatest of ease, you're like, what kind of a freak is that? | ||
| But is that the way to go? | ||
| Or is the way to go to be that guy and also pretend you're not? | ||
| To fight like you're a regular dude. | ||
| To fight like you're a guy who doesn't have ridiculous explosive power, but always have that on tap and know when to release a little bit out of it and then pull it back. | ||
| A little bit out of it. | ||
| That way you can get that Frankie Edgar pace. | ||
| Well, it's not only a proven grounds for strategy, like you're talking, which is amazing, but it's also a proven ground for mental conditioning. | ||
| I mean, this is the place where there's absolutely zero room to be at less than your potential. | ||
| And you see that all the time. | ||
| You see fighters come out, and for whatever reason, you know that a different operating system in that body would be fighting that night. | ||
| So for whatever reason, they weren't reaching it. | ||
| And then you see the converse side, like TJ Dillashaw versus Burrell, when he came out, where you know he's on that bleeding edge of 99.99 of his potential of what he can do at that given point. | ||
| And the states that they get in to get themselves that way, the practices. | ||
| You know, John Jones, when we actually ran into him before his last fight at dinner, and he was talking about a really interesting practice that he was doing, in which he was going through all of the worst case scenarios that can happen against Daniel Corme. | ||
| Daniel Corme taking him down. | ||
| All of the worst case, and he said, and I've accepted those and I'm fine with them. | ||
| And for him, that was releasing any fear that he had of what might happen in the ring. | ||
| And that's what, and Daniele Bellelli pointed this out, that's also what the samurai would do before battle, and this is described vividly in the Hagakure, the Book of the Samurai. | ||
| They would vividly imagine in their mind all of the different ways they could die. | ||
| Gutted and eviscerated, their guts spilling out in their hands, an arrow piercing their neck. | ||
| They would go through all of these different scenarios in their head, be at peace with them, understanding that death was coming to them all anyways. | ||
| Then that way they wouldn't fear these scenarios, so they were fiercer in battle. | ||
| So these techniques that are getting re-innovated by people like Jon Jones are really, you know, amazing to see because a lot of times innovation comes out of necessity, and there's no greater necessity than another killer trying to pummel you in front of millions of people. | ||
| Yeah, the people want to say that it's 99% mental or 90% mental. | ||
| That's not really true because no matter how strong your brain is, Jon Jones is going to kick your fucking ass, okay? | ||
| John can be drunk on coke. | ||
| He's gonna bitch slap you. | ||
| He's a better athlete. | ||
| He's just better fighter, period. | ||
| But if John Jones's mind is totally on point, if he's in that samurai zone, that is an unbelievably deadly combination. | ||
| When you have the superior athlete, With the superior mental toughness like a guy who goes through a really strong amateur wrestling background has like all those guys have Some savage mental toughness and you add that to like some sort of Meditation practice or some sort of a lot of them are using hypnosis now, which is really interesting. | ||
| There's a guy Who Joe Schilling was talking about I'll say his name because it's on my it's on my Twitter thing and He just did Ian McCall as well. | ||
| He's hypnotizing motherfuckers. | ||
| And he's doing it through FaceTime. | ||
| He's hypnotizing them. | ||
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| Goddammit, why can't I remember his last name? | ||
| Shorman, I believe it is? | ||
| Yes, Vinny Shorman. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| And Vinny Shorman is also an excellent striking commentator. | ||
| He does a lot of kickboxing events and Muay Thai events. | ||
| And he works with some of these fighters and hypnotizes them. | ||
| And puts them in these states of mind. | ||
| Essentially, I want to talk to him about doing it for stand-up comedy. | ||
| Because I don't think anybody's ever done it. | ||
| I don't think anybody's ever got hypnotized. | ||
| Especially when everything's going well. | ||
| Let's see what happens. | ||
| Let's see what happens if I get this guy to read my fucking brain. | ||
| Well, all of these things, and we've talked about it a bit on this podcast already, they're manipulating the belief system. | ||
| And I've talked about knee surgery, placebos, this placebo, this nocebo effect, the power that the brain has to be able to affect conditions within the human body. | ||
| And then so manipulating that to your benefit, I think, is a huge part. | ||
| Of, you know, the next frontier. | ||
| And I also think, especially when there's two people involved, if we understand that the belief system has a lot to do with potential outcomes, both for health and a variety of things, that's all been proven. | ||
| You know, belief has huge, you know, a huge amount of leverage on what you're capable of doing physically. | ||
| So understanding that, then it would make sense that evolutionarily speaking, humans would be good belief detectors of each other, right? | ||
| Because that would allow you to assess whether your opponent at a certain point or someone you were going to fight might be able to beat you, or a mate that you were going to be with was going to be good, or someone was going to be able to provide, or your friend was going to be, you know, worthwhile. | ||
| So detecting belief had to be a skill that we've developed. | ||
| And I think we're very good at that. | ||
| We know when someone inherently... | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| You know, so our belief detection is really good. | ||
| And I think so it's double when you look at these competitors, because not only is their belief strong, but the other person across from them can detect that belief to a certain degree. | ||
| And then that might start to shake their belief. | ||
| They're like, man, this motherfucker for sure believes he's going to kick my ass. | ||
| Is my belief enough to believe that that's not going to happen? | ||
| So it's this kind of contest, of course both physically, but I think people are kind of measuring each other. | ||
| And I think that's an advantage that, like again, Conor McGregor has. | ||
| I really believe that he believes that he is going to kick that other person's ass. | ||
| So the other person, when they're dealing with him, they're like, man, this motherfucker really believes this. | ||
| Am I sure? | ||
| Am I sure that I'm going to win? | ||
| And then that starts to cause doubt, and that doubt creates this negative cascade. | ||
| Yeah, isn't it fascinating how that works, that the other person can kind of somehow or another sense your true state? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Somehow or another. | ||
| You can put on the face of the confident person, but they can go, this motherfucker's bluffing. | ||
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| I smell bluffing. | ||
| He's shaky. | ||
| There's something going on. | ||
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| You know, I feel that with audiences. | ||
| Audiences know when your head's not there or when you're not right. | ||
| You can say the exact right words in the exact right order or the exact right amount of pauses, but if your intent isn't there, if your mind isn't there... | ||
| It's like they don't connect with it. | ||
| It's a form of hypnosis. | ||
| I really think that stand-up is some form of hypnosis. | ||
| Yeah, so their belief detectors are active. | ||
| If you don't really believe that you're in the pocket and you're delivering it the right way, they'll kind of sense that. | ||
| And that's what I'm kind of trying it to. | ||
| And then the opposite of that is fear. | ||
| Because fear is a belief of some probability that some bad shit is going to happen. | ||
| So it's almost like a negative belief mechanism. | ||
| Of course there's danger, and having danger is real, but the fear that's on top of that danger, that is somewhat of a belief that some other bad shit is going to happen, and that's why it manifests. | ||
| It's because it is a belief. | ||
| It is a belief that something's going to happen. | ||
| If you're afraid on stage that you're going to bomb, that fear will start to wend its way into yourself, and you'll create that, because some part of you believes that's what's going to happen. | ||
| So it's almost like Fear is the nocebo of regular everyday living, whereas belief is the placebo of everyday living. | ||
| That's why it's so devastating when you think about people that talk about being bullied, like some kids have gone through really horrific bullying episodes as children. | ||
| When you think about what's happening when you're getting bullied, or you're scared of someone in your neighborhood, or there's someone who's harassing you or stalking you, They become, it's almost like they become a virus in your mind. | ||
| Where someone, like, if you're in school and you have to get on that fucking bus and go, and this big fucker is gonna smack you in the head every day, and you're gonna be living in fear of this guy, trying to figure out where he is, that guy becomes like a virus in your head. | ||
| And when you think of how meditation works, how meditation is sort of resetting you and clearing all of the programs that are in there, clearing all the things that seem to be externally dictating behavior. | ||
| When You're when you're when you're fighting especially when you're competing and someone's beating you at something especially if they're talking shit They're kind of hypnotizing you totally because they're they're Planting their mind or their personality as a virus in your head and then also you are dealing with them like they're physically coming into your head and And fucking with your head. | ||
| Well, you're not physically getting in their head at all. | ||
| They just scored on you. | ||
| You know, they're kicking your ass. | ||
| They just leg kicked you. | ||
| And they're like, what, bitch? | ||
| And they pop you with a jab. | ||
| You're like, fuck! | ||
| Like, you're not, you know, you're not in his head at all. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's fucking you up. | ||
| Their belief is getting stronger while yours is getting weaker. | ||
| Yes, like, you are getting hypnotized as you're getting fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fascinating when you think about that. | ||
| And it happens not only in the cage, but beforehand. | ||
| You know, you see those people who've gotten in someone else's head way early. | ||
| I wonder if this can be compared in some ways to the sense of loss we feel after relationships. | ||
| Because with some people, there's a deep anger after relationships end. | ||
| People break up. | ||
| Because not only do they feel this sense of loss, but they feel like you took something from them. | ||
| Like you took like a happiness. | ||
| You took something you took because they kind of become a part of you. | ||
| You kind of link up with each other in some sort of weird way. | ||
| That's got to be similar to hypnosis in a way too in that what's going on with all these things is the mind is far more malleable than we ever give it credit for being. | ||
| The personality is far more dependent upon whim and circumstance and influence than we ever really want it to be. | ||
| All these things are kind of playing out at the same time. | ||
| It's not any one thing. | ||
| Like, so, these rigid structures that we think of as this is, well, his personality is like this. | ||
| Well, he was totally different once he hooked up with her. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| That bitch bewitched him! | ||
| She hypnotized him! | ||
| But she did! | ||
| Some women can do that to men and some men can do that to women. | ||
| They fucking turn them into a different person. | ||
| They bewitch you with their personality. | ||
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You're getting sleepy, sleepy. | |
| This dick is only for me. | ||
| People do shit like that to each other. | ||
| And I think these connections of the mind are these poorly understood Interfaces that we have with each other these poorly understood connections And that we want to we want to just like sometimes we can't handle it when you get distance from all being one Just give me get some distance. | ||
| I have to take time off man. | ||
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| With relationships, I think it has a lot to do with attachment and identity. | ||
| You know, you get with someone and that becomes part of your identity. | ||
| I'm so-and-so's husband. | ||
| I'm so-and-so's boyfriend. | ||
| She's my girlfriend. | ||
| My girlfriend. | ||
| You know, it becomes this part of you, your ego, your sense of identity, and you get attached to that because it's feeding you with something that you think you need, some validation. | ||
| Maybe she's super hot, and that helps you feel it's like a tricky little trap that helps you feel like, man, I'm the man. | ||
| My girl is super hot. | ||
| You know, so that part's inside you. | ||
| And then she leaves, and you're like, shit, maybe I'm not the man, because that's what was feeding you. | ||
| But the key to that is you've got to get to a state of almost invincibility yourself, where you don't need anything from anybody or anything. | ||
| You're just free to enjoy it. | ||
| That's just extra on top of it, you know? | ||
| You're not borrowing anything from them to make up your identity. | ||
| You're just enjoying the shit out of them and adding more, piling it on top. | ||
| So when they leave, You're not really at a loss of anything. | ||
| It's just, alright, I don't get to experience that extra good thing anymore. | ||
| Yeah, most people don't see it that way because they watch John Cusack movies and they want to stand outside a chick's fucking house with a boombox playing some song they used to listen to before you banged. | ||
| Have you heard that country song? | ||
| It's called Redneck Crazy. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's like the most absurd song ever. | ||
| It's like, I'm going to park outside of your window and shine my lights through your... | ||
| Park outside of your house, shine my lights through your window, throw beer cans at your shadow. | ||
| You broke the wrong heart, baby. | ||
| You made me redneck crazy. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| And it's like playing on it, and you'll just hear people humming along and singing it. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| I mean, it's amazing. | ||
| Jamie, do you want to... | ||
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| Please don't. | ||
| Let's pretend we didn't bring it up. | ||
| It's unbelievable to hear because it's just patterning this crazy behavior that people have of this possession. | ||
| That's my girl. | ||
| And the fact that she's enjoying her life with someone else. | ||
| I think the song even says, did you think I was going to wish you well? | ||
| I'm not that kind of man, baby, or something like that. | ||
| Oh, Christ. | ||
| And it's like, whoa. | ||
| But that's a worm that's in our consciousness that we're supposed to feel like... | ||
| You know, you took something from me. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| I hope you're never happy again. | ||
| But how about the balls to make a fucking song when you're talking about harassing someone's daughter? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because she doesn't want to fuck you anymore. | ||
| Look at that behavior and wonder why your personality sucks. | ||
| Your personality sucks. | ||
| That's why she left in the first place, you asshole. | ||
| Throw a beer can at her fucking house. | ||
| How about you grow up, baby? | ||
| Yeah, baby is exactly the word because she's so needy. | ||
| He needed what she was going to provide him. | ||
| It's like as if she's stuck with him forever. | ||
| She can't do any better. | ||
| She wants to improve her life. | ||
| You're just drinking beer and hanging out by the lake. | ||
| Fuck you, dude. | ||
| You know? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Here's the lyrics. | ||
| Wish I knew how long it's been going... | ||
| Oh, she cheated on him. | ||
| How long you been getting some on the side? | ||
| Well, a little different. | ||
| Nah, he can't amount to much by the look of that little truck. | ||
| Oh, that's hilarious! | ||
| He can't amount to much because he has a small vehicle. | ||
| Well, he won't be getting any sleep tonight. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| Okay, I'm gonna lean my headlights into your bedroom windows, throw empty beer cans at both your shadows. | ||
| I didn't come here to start a fight, but I'm up for anything tonight. | ||
| Okay, what? | ||
| You didn't come to start a fight? | ||
| What do you think's gonna happen? | ||
| You mocked his truck. | ||
| Okay, you asshole. | ||
| You threw beer cans. | ||
| You have a fucking spotlight that you use to poach deer. | ||
| Putting it through his window. | ||
| You know you broke the wrong heart, baby, and drove me redneck crazy, redneck crazy. | ||
| Do you think I'd wish you the best? | ||
| Endless love and happiness? | ||
| You know that's just not the kind of man I am. | ||
| Yeah, I'm the kind that shows up at your house at 3am. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I'm gonna lean my headlights into your bedroom windows, throw beer, blah, blah, blah, blah, redneck crazy, redneck crazy. | ||
| There's the chorus, fuck. | ||
| But that, I mean, and people, it's playing on pop radio because it strikes a chord, and I think some girls think, man, he really was into her. | ||
| You know, he really loved her because look at what he's doing on the other side. | ||
| And that's just a tricky little trap that we gotta transcend. | ||
| The least of my concerns. | ||
| My concerns is that there'll be guys that listen to it and think it's okay to act like that. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| If a girl is so silly that she thinks, oh, he just loves him. | ||
| That's why he's all doing that shooting up the house shit. | ||
| You think he really wants to shoot up his fucking house? | ||
| Just letting her know he loves her. | ||
| There's women who grow up like that. | ||
| They have a fucking black eye and they're having this conversation to their kid with a Marlboro hanging out of their mouth. | ||
| Listen, sugar, your dad and I have a very passionate relationship, and I push his buttons, you know, and he loves me. | ||
| And if he didn't love me, he wouldn't fucking hit me. | ||
| And I know it don't make sense to you right now, but someday it will. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| That's what I'm worried about. | ||
| That's this old paradigm that is in dire need of transcendence. | ||
| And the need is basically, you know, we have to be fully full. | ||
| I think Don Miguel Ruiz makes the example of, you know, Create enough self-love, enough self-satisfaction, enough inside yourself that you don't need anything from anybody else. | ||
| Your kitchen is fully stocked, so you're not starving. | ||
| You stock your own kitchen with your own self-fulfillment, and then you don't need to eat any little burger that comes on the side of the road or some hot dog from a stand, whatever you can get, because you're starving. | ||
| You've got plenty to eat, and that's, I think, the analogy that we need to have. | ||
| We need to be full and whole. | ||
| We need to have standards as human beings that we accept of ourselves. | ||
| Like, what you shouldn't accept from yourself, don't accept from yourself that you're the guy that's gonna be outside someone's house at 3 o'clock in the morning shining a headlight through their fucking windows and throwing beer cans. | ||
| Don't accept that you're that guy. | ||
| You're not that- you can't be that guy. | ||
| If you're that guy, no one's gonna come to you for advice. | ||
| No one's gonna take you seriously. | ||
| You're a fucking dumbass. | ||
| You're a dumbass child who gives in to every whim. | ||
| It's like someone who comes after one stroke every time. | ||
| I can't help it! | ||
| Like, you're a baby. | ||
| You're a fucking baby. | ||
| Learn some goddamn discipline. | ||
| Yeah, it sucks. | ||
| Yeah, you feel lonely. | ||
| Yeah, you get depressed. | ||
| Go on Tinder, stupid. | ||
| Find some more chicks. | ||
| They're everywhere. | ||
| People want to fuck. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| That's why there's so many of us. | ||
| What are you doing, man? | ||
| You tell me you get this one chick, you can't get another chick? | ||
| Go get another one, stupid! | ||
| And he will, too. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| Do not have any friends. | ||
| Do you not have any friends? | ||
| Anybody who talks you through it? | ||
| And goes, dude, dude, dude, come on! | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| So what? | ||
| People get so goddamn connected when they date. | ||
| They get so fucking connected that they feel like you stole something from them. | ||
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You've been getting some pleasure from another entity. | |
| I ain't tolerating it. | ||
| Ah, Santa's bust up your sleep patterns. | ||
| I'm gonna fuck with your beta waves. | ||
| I'm gonna kick your You fucking rim sleep right in the dick. | ||
| You fucked with me. | ||
| You fucked with my sleep. | ||
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I'm the type of fella that fucks with your sleep back. | |
| That's what he's doing. | ||
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He's a fucking baby. | |
| It's like my four-year-old and my six-year-old were having an argument today because my six-year-old was letting the four-year-old write on her paper for a while. | ||
| But then she's like, write on your own paper. | ||
| And she wrote a little bit more. | ||
| And she's like, I said write on your own paper. | ||
| Then she wrote on her paper. | ||
| And she tried to write on her. | ||
| And they were going back and forth writing on each other's papers. | ||
| Like, whoa, whoa, whoa! | ||
| Saddle the fuck down. | ||
| Stop trying to hurt each other. | ||
| This is not, this is not how you do with this. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Just, this, we got to learn how to communicate here. | ||
| But they're four and six! | ||
| They're not a fucking 30-year-old man with a pig truck. | ||
| Big old jacked up truck. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I saw his little truck. | ||
| He ain't got shit. | ||
| He ain't a man. | ||
| What kind of little ass truck? | ||
| His fucking truck came from another country, too. | ||
| Goddamn driving a Toyota truck. | ||
| What do you want, reliability? | ||
| Yeah, that's the process of growing up. | ||
| It should be learning to transcend those initial feelings. | ||
| Like, yeah, that's of course reasonable when you're four and six. | ||
| We're little monkeys in this crazy world. | ||
| We're sorting shit out. | ||
| But then as you get more practice at that, that should become more and more absurd with every passing year. | ||
| If we just committed to that, committed to not... | ||
| Going after people and fucking with people's lives, like showing up at someone's house 3 o'clock in the morning and shining your headlights in the throat. | ||
| Just commit to never going there. | ||
| Never doing that kind of shit. | ||
| Like, never showing up at someone's house and starting a fight. | ||
| All that, put all that aside, the world will get like 90% better. | ||
| Like, instantly. | ||
| If everyone had a standard of behavior, like, I could... | ||
| We kind of trust that, yeah, people in this town, they don't fight. | ||
| You talk things out. | ||
| Most dudes in this town are rational. | ||
| Imagine if you had a town like that? | ||
| Where is this place? | ||
| Oh, it's just right outside of Seattle. | ||
| This one town, like everyone's cool. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| Everyone's cool. | ||
| But could you imagine? | ||
| It might be. | ||
| It might be like spreading out of Denver right now. | ||
| The epicenter of the fucking cannabis nucleus. | ||
| It is possible, right? | ||
| If you could get a group of friends like we have, we have a group of like 15 dudes that I would give a million bucks to in a bag and never counted if they gave it back to me. | ||
| There's like 15 of us. | ||
| But for most people, it's hard to find fucking people like that. | ||
| But if you had a town of 100%ers, 100% down, 100% all, you know, just, you could count on them for everything. | ||
| They are who they are. | ||
| Goddamn, what a great town that would be. | ||
| No one would ever get in fistfights. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that's a big key of how to improve our situation is maybe we won't be able to get the whole town, but we can start getting these tribes around us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like you're saying, you have these 15 people. | ||
| Yeah, they don't all live together. | ||
| But through travel and through talking, you end up interacting with all these people anyways. | ||
| So it kind of insulates you. | ||
| You have your own tribe of these people that we trust impeccably and that can help improve our lives. | ||
| And I think that's a major part that's missing. | ||
| We're missing that sense of tribe where we would give absolutely anything. | ||
| It's not like, oh, could I stay in your guest bedroom? | ||
| Fucking of course you could stay in my guest bedroom. | ||
| Don't even ask that silly question. | ||
| You could do anything that's mine is yours. | ||
| That feeling that's innate to us, I think we're going to have to start trying to get that back because I think we need that. | ||
| I mean, that's the kind of creature that we are. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| And I think that, you know, you know how Uriah Faber has it hooked up, where he owns like a block? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He has like a bunch of... | ||
| He's so smart. | ||
| That dude is just so clever in a bunch of different ways. | ||
| Very good businessman. | ||
| Very clever in, you know, how he set himself up outside of the UFC. There's a bunch of houses he flips and stuff. | ||
| And he's always got something going on. | ||
| Owns real estate. | ||
| But him and all these alpha male guys, that's their team. | ||
| Team Alpha Male is a... | ||
| One of the top-level, high-level gyms in the country, particularly for the lighter weight classes. | ||
| Like, they have 135-pound champion TJ Dillashaw, and there's a wealth of, like, real good talent in there, including guys you haven't even heard of yet that you will hear of soon. | ||
| But the point being is that he's got it set up where he can kind of do whatever the fuck he wants. | ||
| You know, he has it set up where he's got, you know, he's got the housing business, he's got the gym he runs, he's got all these different things going on at the same time. | ||
| That's a pretty sweet place to be in. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Well, he's got his tribe that actually lives right near him, which is obviously the best case scenario. | ||
| Yeah, they're all living on one street. | ||
| Houses that they all own. | ||
| They just bought houses next to each other. | ||
| That's so clever. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Nobody does that. | ||
| Everybody says they want to do that, but nobody does that. | ||
| Nobody does. | ||
| And it's probably the single thing that would improve people's quality of life way more than the neighborhood or whatever other reasons they're living somewhere is being around the proximity of those people who enrich your life, make it better. | ||
| Well, Uriah's a real leader, you know, and what he's figured out how to do there is to create this atmosphere, first of all, super supportive, recruits guys, recruited TJ Dillashaw, who's the champ in his weight class, and then when they offered him a shot of TJ recently, he's like, yeah, you know what? | ||
| I'll fight Frankie Edgar at 145. Let's have a fucking super fight. | ||
| Let's get crazy. | ||
| You know, you gotta love that, right? | ||
| You gotta love that he thinks like that. | ||
| I just love that setup of all the houses on a block. | ||
| Yeah, and you know, that's going to be possible for some, and I think that's great. | ||
| And one of the great things about what he's done, to really make tribe, you've got to go back to ritual and these different bonding experiences that allow you to reach that level of trust. | ||
| You know, shared suffering, you know, the people that you've been in combat together, like Uriah and all those people. | ||
| That says a lot, because at a certain point, there's a lot of ways to test people, you know, to a certain degree and go through something together. | ||
| Obviously physical exertion like that, like rolling with somebody, you learn a ton about them. | ||
| Or doing a psychedelic experience with somebody. | ||
| You know, you both drink a coffee cup full of ayahuasca, you're going to learn a lot about somebody at that point. | ||
| Same with all of these different rituals that have been developed. | ||
| Put your hand in a mitt full of bullet ants, you're going to learn a lot about a motherfucker, what happens when that pain hits and it's overwhelming. | ||
| You know, and those were key parts of these societies that We've lost, and it just kind of happens to certain people, and you get this closeness, you know, and I think intentionally bringing that back is going to be really important as well as these new tribal units form. | ||
| Well, we have education as far as mathematics, we have education as far as history, we have education as far as grammar and English and language and literature and all these different things that we teach as standard in school, but we don't teach Men, especially. | ||
| We don't teach men martial arts. | ||
| And I think that martial arts, just having the ability to understand how to use your body to defend yourself, psychologically alleviates so much pressure that some people just face and go through life with. | ||
| They can't defend themselves. | ||
| And the psychological relieving of that, I think, is an aid to enhancing and understanding other aspects of your life. | ||
| Also, along the way, while you're doing martial arts, you're doing something difficult, and you push yourself very hard, and you learn about what are these feelings inside you that make you want to quit, when you know you can keep going. | ||
| If the instructor goes, keep going, keep going, 30 seconds left, and you're doing a flurry on the bag, and you just want to stop. | ||
| Like, if you were alone, you would stop. | ||
| But you keep going. | ||
| And then you understand that you can keep going. | ||
| And then you understand, okay, well, if I can keep going here, I can keep going in a sparring session. | ||
| If I can keep going in a sparring session, I can keep going in competition. | ||
| I can count on myself to when I feel really fucking uncomfortable to hold it together. | ||
| Because I've experienced that state, I understand what it is, and I refuse to let the limiting negative aspects of that state affect my performance. | ||
| I will do everything that my body is physically capable of doing and nothing less. | ||
| I'm not going to sell it short with a weak mind. | ||
| But until you've experienced that, it's very difficult to have any confidence in your ability to overwhelm any sort of adversity or overcome any sort of adversity. | ||
| You don't really ever know if you can do it. | ||
| So you're always going to have this weird thing. | ||
| And the difference between men that I know that have experienced that and do it, you know, do difficult things. | ||
| And not even fighting stuff. | ||
| Like, the same piece you get out of dudes who are, like, ultramarathon runners. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Guys who do triathletes. | ||
| Pushing through that resistance. | ||
| They push through who they are. | ||
| They understand who they are better than most people. | ||
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| And they're just a little bit more aware. | ||
| Just a little bit more aware. | ||
| I think especially martial arts does that because of the emotional aspect of the training. | ||
| It's so terrifying. | ||
| Sparring is terrifying. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| But in getting through that, it makes everything else brighter. | ||
| It makes everything else lighter. | ||
| It's like it gives you more freedom with your mind than if you're tussling with these ideas. | ||
| You're tussling constantly with the fear of being physically incapable of defending yourself. | ||
| I think it's a massive deficit. | ||
| It's kind of a perfect storm of two things because you're pushing through immense physical suffering at a certain point, which is incredibly valuable, plus immense fear. | ||
| And a lot of other things have maybe one of the two, like marathon running, immense physical suffering, no fear. | ||
| Big wave surfing, immense fear, no physical suffering, except maybe when you get crashed into some coral or something bad happens. | ||
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| And those are good practices, but I think what you're hitting on is that martial arts hits both, and so you have to transcend both. | ||
| So you'll respond well in situations that are causing fear to come up, and you'll respond well in situations that are particularly challenging on the physical aspect of things. | ||
| And it's almost like the opposite of that famous Musashi quote, which said, know the way broadly and you'll see it all things. | ||
| Know the way narrowly, and you will be able to apply it broadly. | ||
| You know, if you reach really great levels in something specific like that, you'll be able to use that for the rest of your life in everything. | ||
| It's just, I really think it should be almost required. | ||
| Almost required. | ||
| And it doesn't mean you have to be good at it. | ||
| Just do it to, just to get your state in a better place. | ||
| Get your mental state in a better place. | ||
| Especially jujitsu, I think. | ||
| Yeah, because you have no head trauma. | ||
| No head trauma. | ||
| Yeah, that's a big one. | ||
| I just think people need to do difficult things, and I think life is too goddamn easy. | ||
| It's too soft for most people. | ||
| As far as character building, character is only built necessarily under pressure. | ||
| It's very hard to build character when you're just a person who's won the lottery when you're three, and you sat around all day eating cake. | ||
| Where's your character? | ||
| Where is it coming from? | ||
| You kind of have to go through some shit. | ||
| And I think that's one of the issues with a lot of people in this kind of new age movement, hippies if you want to call them, or whatever your name for them might be, the people in that consciousness movement, let's say, is that there's some part of you when you meet some of them who haven't really been tested where you think, I see that you haven't really tested yourself under immense pressure. | ||
| You get this kind of feeling like, what happens if things really get shitty? | ||
| Am I going to be able to count on you and trust you? | ||
| All of these things that you're proposing, are they all going to go to shit? | ||
| I have an instinct that they might. | ||
| And so I think everybody on both sides are missing this kind of... | ||
| The dualism of having both, of being able to reach high levels of consciousness, but also put yourself on a mat with someone who you know inevitably in 30 seconds to 5 minutes is going to choke you out. | ||
| Know that you're going to go through that and what that goes through your body. | ||
| Being able to do both, I think, is the next wave. | ||
| Too many times people are on the polarity of that. | ||
| They're one or the other. | ||
| They're either really good at the jiu-jitsu side, but they haven't You know push through the realms of consciousness either through Kundalini or psychedelics or meditation or these other things and Conversely on the other side. | ||
| They haven't tasted what it's feel like to push through extreme fear and adversity adversity Yeah, it's almost like Your car that you're driving through life will work better if you run it over more mountains. | ||
| It'll work better if you put it in danger. | ||
| It'll work better if you slam on the brakes more. | ||
| It'll work better. | ||
| This is what your vehicle is. | ||
| Compromising situation that we're in. | ||
| It's not compromise. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| We're in the best spot ever as far as human history. | ||
| We have great medicine. | ||
| We have great education. | ||
| Information is available to basically any human being can get a world-class education online. | ||
| But because of everything being so easy to get food and easy to take care of yourself in comparison to how it was when you're fighting off predators, you don't really use your body that much. | ||
| Not a lot's going on. | ||
| Not a lot of stress on the brain as far as life or death situations. | ||
| There's not a lot of fleeing at full speed, running for your life, trying to get up a tree as quick as you can. | ||
| There's not a lot of that. | ||
| It sort of diminishes potential. | ||
| They did this thing on hunter-gatherers and the difference between the bone structure of the hunter-gatherer and the bone structure of the modern-day man. | ||
| They're looking at modern humans, and the deterioration of the mass of the bones, and the hands are getting smaller, and the tendons are getting weaker. | ||
| We're becoming like those goddamn gray aliens. | ||
| I mean, we're slowly but surely going from what we think of as a caveman, just fucking gnarly. | ||
| Those Neanderthals, especially, they were like 5'5", 200-plus pounds, just tanks, giant bones, and fucking thick heads and shit. | ||
| I mean, they were out there huffing it every day. | ||
| And because we're not doing that, everything is, like, feminizing. | ||
| Everything is, like, thinning. | ||
| Everything is, like, becoming weaker and weaker and weaker. | ||
| And then we're missing out on a key element of the magic of this fucking experience. | ||
| You know, this turn in this dimension... | ||
| Part of the fun of it is feeling what the body can do and feeling those feelings. | ||
| And if we turn into that gray alien type, we're going to be fucking bummed out. | ||
| I actually had a vision of that in my ayahuasca session, the last one that I went on, where this alien being came in and I was like, well, what's it like being an alien? | ||
| Do you have anything to tell me? | ||
| And because he was just chilling there and he says, well, being human is very enviable. | ||
| Because for us, you know, we have no physicality in our realm anymore. | ||
| That's gone. | ||
| And you get to experience everything. | ||
| And he showed me these visions of exactly that. | ||
| Like wrestling and fucking and eating crazy meals. | ||
| In that order? | ||
| No. | ||
| But everything that we get to do, all of the physical pleasures of this world, he's like, yeah, there's other pleasures of this other realm, this realm of pure consciousness, where everything is smooth, we're generally in a state of bliss, but we're missing the extremes of these physical pleasures, so human life is enviable. | ||
| And to just discard that, say, nah, I'm not interested, we're fucking missing out, man. | ||
| You're missing out on vitality. | ||
| You know, that's something that, especially people that don't exercise, they don't take that into consideration when they dismiss it as being some ego-propping device. | ||
| Oh, what are you doing curls there? | ||
| You're building up your quads, man? | ||
| You're fucking smart. | ||
| You know, they, like, somehow or another try to diminish the intelligence of what you're doing by pointing out the benefits of it. | ||
| By, like, pointing out that your muscles are larger and stronger. | ||
| Somehow you must be stupid. | ||
| Like, you know what I mean? | ||
| It's, like, it's an adorable thing that they do. | ||
| It's, like, because it's so transparent. | ||
| It's so obvious. | ||
| You're being so silly that you're going through life with that shit body. | ||
| That's what's really going on. | ||
| If you just exercise, pretty much everybody that exercises gets stronger. | ||
| It really works. | ||
| They've been doing it for years. | ||
| Just keep doing it, man. | ||
| You just keep doing it, you get stronger. | ||
| When you get stronger, your body works better. | ||
| When your body works better, you do stuff easier. | ||
| Well, it's so clearly the ego just restructuring a value system so that they can be on top. | ||
| Oh, what's important? | ||
| Well, not this. | ||
| That's actually a diminishment. | ||
| So therefore, I'm on top. | ||
| And pretending that somehow or another that if you are fit or if you're muscular or strong, that somehow or another you must be diminished mentally. | ||
| Because that energy that you put into getting those muscles, you weren't studying. | ||
| You want to go, are you studying all day, you fuck? | ||
| Are you studying 23 hours a day? | ||
| You're not. | ||
| Then you have an hour to go to the gym. | ||
| Just go to the gym. | ||
| It's not that hard. | ||
| Like, you're talking about something that's not nearly as difficult as you're trying to pretend. | ||
| You're pretending it's like a lifestyle, 24-7 choice that you have to make, and you've got to keep away from knowledge. | ||
| You can get just as smart. | ||
| John Donaher, who's one of the most brilliant people you're ever going to meet, jiu-jitsu instructor from New York, he was a philosophy major. | ||
| And he was a bodybuilder at the same time. | ||
| He was into powerlifting and shit when he first found jiu-jitsu. | ||
| And he took jiu-jitsu because he wanted to have some skills in case he was in altercations as a bouncer, because he was making a living doing that at night while he was a student. | ||
| So it's like this idea that somehow or another strength or masculinity, it goes hand in hand with being an idiot. | ||
| It's hilarious that they've actually managed to somehow or another, not they, it's some concerted effort, but the weak souls amongst us that don't want to really look at themselves honestly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, and then the meatheads have the same prejudices on the other side. | ||
| They think, oh, you're doing yoga. | ||
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Woo-woo bullshit. | |
| How many dicks you suck at yoga today? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So they have this same prejudice when really, eventually, you know, the wisest of us are just going to drop all that and say, hey, I want to fucking do it all. | ||
| Because that's what's capable for the human being. | ||
| That's what we're here to do. | ||
| Experience everything we can. | ||
| Yeah, that's what we really should all be doing. | ||
| It's like this idea that you have to be in one camp or another camp. | ||
| Like, we're way closer to each other than we like to think. | ||
| And the moment we start looking at each other as, like, us or them, you know, like, I've had conversations with people. | ||
| They find out that, you know, you voted Democrat. | ||
| Like, oh, Christ, you're fucking one of them. | ||
| Are you mean to tell me? | ||
| And they'll, like, ramp up their voice like, whoa, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Relax. | ||
| Relax. | ||
| You know, like, we're not necessarily in an argument here. | ||
| You know, I guarantee you there's a lot of shit that I agree with that you agree with, too. | ||
| Like, we're probably a lot closer than you think on a lot of things. | ||
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Well, you know who's the biggest fucking Muslim in this country is Obama. | |
| You ever get in those conversations? | ||
| Like, of course. | ||
| Dude, I can't even talk to you about that. | ||
| I don't even know where to begin. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know where this is going. | ||
| But, like, they think that you are the enemy. | ||
| Like, you get roped into the enemy, and some, you get categorized. | ||
| But if there was no Democrat, and there was no Republican, there was no teams, There was just a bunch of stances and positions on issues. | ||
| We would all be way closer than you think. | ||
| It's just when you have representatives and one is blue and one is red and you're playing some weird fucking board game. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| There's a blue team and a red team? | ||
| Do you know how fucking stupid that is? | ||
| There's blue states and red states. | ||
| The divisiveness of that. | ||
| The almost... | ||
| Almost something designed to keep people at odds with each other. | ||
| Because if you looked at it in terms of just the issues, then you could debate the issues individually, on their own merit, and they wouldn't be attached. | ||
| Like, pro-life is constantly attached to the right. | ||
| There's certain gay rights constantly attached to the left. | ||
| Healthcare reform, left. | ||
| Finances, anything finances, anything that benefits business, right. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| It's so adorable that they've managed to package all this stuff. | ||
| Well, they're hacking into the dark side of tribalism. | ||
| And the dark side of tribalism is when you have a group and fuck everybody else, because they're trying to take what I have. | ||
| And all of these setting up of these camps is like a mental hack into this instinctual quality that we developed. | ||
| And you see it in even sports fans. | ||
| You know, these hooligans, when their English soccer team in red wins or the blue one wins, that's their whole life. | ||
| They're punching people. | ||
| They're stabbing people. | ||
| They're trampling people, whatever. | ||
| This crazy identification with someone who's putting a ball in a net. | ||
| But it's the tribalism aspect that people are playing on. | ||
| And I think politicians and everybody have kind of played to that. | ||
| When we realize when you level all of that, yeah, you can have your tribe, you know, and that's good. | ||
| But beware of the dark side, which is, these are my people, fuck everybody else. | ||
| Even the preppers kind of, doomsday preppers have this kind of idea like, I got this thing and fuck everybody else. | ||
| Those people are crazy. | ||
| That shit is not gonna work. | ||
| You're gonna take your shit. | ||
| You know, everyone's gonna find out. | ||
| They saw you on TV, dummy. | ||
| They know where you have your pickles buried. | ||
| Like, what are you... | ||
| What kind of an asshole are you that prepares for the worst but shows everybody your house? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And this is where we have our ammo. | ||
| Oh, well now I know where to get the ammo. | ||
| When the fucking zombie apocalypse hits, I just get into the garage and I got the ammo. | ||
| And then you decide which family with two kids comes knocking on your door, you give the food to. | ||
| It's just this kind of weird... | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| It's this kind of weird thing, whereas I think seeing everybody as, that could be me in a different circumstance, in a different way. | ||
| That's me. | ||
| Oh, that's me. | ||
| That's me. | ||
| That's a really cool practice to do, actually, that I've done as well. | ||
| Go out to a beach somewhere and imagine yourself as each individual. | ||
| Oh, that's me. | ||
| I can see maybe where my thoughts have created this body type and this thing. | ||
| Obviously you're just playing a game, but you're putting yourself actually in everybody's position and understanding they're not that fucking different You know, they just had different genetics different backgrounds and different choices that they made. | ||
| Yeah, I've talked about it on stage that I had this experience I wrote about it. | ||
| I had this experience when my My first daughter was about to be born, and I was in Hawaii, and I was on a boat, and I was super high, and these dolphins were jumping around next to the boat, and I was on this insane edible. | ||
| I was so far gone that I had this weird connection with these dolphins, and I realized how intelligent they were. | ||
| And I thought, like, I wonder if they're like people. | ||
| I wonder if, like, I lived a dolphin's life, I would be like a dolphin. | ||
| Like, if you lived in that water, like, if you have, you think of you, who you are, and if you were in a dolphin's body, I wonder if you literally would be a dolphin. | ||
| Then I thought about it, and I was like, what if that's how every human being is? | ||
| That we're all exactly the same thing, but we're living through different biological filters, different life experiences, different genetics. | ||
| But if you lived my life, you would be me. | ||
| And if I lived your life, I would be you. | ||
| And that it's an illusion that And that's what the illusion of separateness is really all about. | ||
| Everyone's like, there's not an illusion, dude. | ||
| This guy beat the shit out of me. | ||
| I don't know him. | ||
| He's not me. | ||
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I'm not him. | |
| That guy's a dick. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, people have that, oh, that girl fucking cut my hair. | ||
| That is not me cutting my hair. | ||
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Trust me. | |
| We are not one. | ||
| I'm gonna fucking stab that hoe. | ||
| You know? | ||
| But if you lived her life, like, that's where the illusion is. | ||
| The illusion is that because we live these separate experiences, that If we all had the agreement that we'd treat each other as if it was us living another life, the world would instantly be better. | ||
| Instantly. | ||
| If we could pass that... | ||
| I mean, everybody wants to pass... | ||
| There's all sorts of radical ideologies that people push. | ||
| There's all sorts of radical religions and behavior choices and all sorts of different things that people want other people to subscribe to and want other people to adhere to. | ||
| But there's a really simple one, a really simple one that's almost a one-liner. | ||
| Treat everybody as if it's you living another life. | ||
| And if you did do that, if it turned out to be true, if we, some fucking Nobel Prize winning egghead, figured out in a laboratory that if, like, you could literally take the essence of who is Aubrey Marcus and throw it in Jamie Vernon's body, you'd be Jamie, if you lived his life up until now. | ||
| If they proved it mathematically. | ||
| And I think that's possible. | ||
| And what you're hitting on is, you know, I call it, so there's the golden rule. | ||
| Do unto others as you would do unto yourself. | ||
| But I think there's the platinum rule, you know, which supersedes that, which very well might be do unto others because they are yourself. | ||
| You know, motherfucker just rewrote the golden rule. | ||
| Did you hear that? | ||
| That motherfucker just rewrote the golden rule. | ||
| It's the platinum rule! | ||
| The fucking platinum rule is better than the golden rule! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn, dude, that's strong. | ||
| That's a very strong statement, and you're totally dead on. | ||
| Yeah, treat them as if it's you. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's the difference. | ||
| Treat them because it is you. | ||
| It's you in a different life and a different filter and different biological switches that have been hit. | ||
| I think that's why it's so hard to be around people that are falling apart. | ||
| I was at the Comedy Store the other night and this woman who used to be a comedian, I don't think she's a comedian anymore, came around and she was drunk and fucked up and confused and she hadn't... | ||
| Done stand-up in a long time, and she's probably like close to 60 now. | ||
| She's old as fuck, but it just never worked out She's never she was like only an open-miker like 20 years ago, but she kind of would always kind of hang around still and To see her now You know it's it's it's really hard to see someone like like she would try to talk to us But no one could tell anything and everyone's terrified. | ||
| She's gonna say hey getting you know, can you guys put me up sometime? | ||
| Can I put me up on your show? | ||
| You know, everyone's terrified she's gonna ask for some sort of comedy help, you know But you got to think like what does it feel like to be that person? | ||
| Like what what what synapses don't fire what life experience stunts your emotional growth? | ||
| What puts you in a state of denial? | ||
| What gives you these blinders that you can't realize the fact that the audience sees you in a way that you don't see yourself So this is this comedy thing is never gonna work Like, you don't even know what you look like. | ||
| You don't know what you sound like. | ||
| You don't know how you behave. | ||
| And then you see it like manifesting itself 20 plus years later in this disastrous wreck of kind of crazy lady. | ||
| And you're like, wow, man, that could have been me. | ||
| You know, if I was born in her body, I lived her life. | ||
| And you... | ||
| You take into consideration how difficult it is to turn from that state and improve. | ||
| We almost give someone no chance. | ||
| You never meet someone who's a total fucking loser at 40 and then you meet him at 45 and he's like the best guy ever. | ||
| Nobody does it. | ||
| Momentum is a motherfucker. | ||
| It's really hard to change. | ||
| But when you have that attitude where you start looking at people, just as you said, that could be me, the only proper response is empathy. | ||
| Even if it's someone that perpetrates something against you, and this is a really challenging thing to do, yeah. | ||
| You know, you want to prevent that. | ||
| If someone goes to fuck you up, then fuck them up. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| It's your right to defend yourself and protect. | ||
| But not do it out of anger. | ||
| Do it out of necessity. | ||
| And then the only feeling that you should have towards that is a feeling of pity. | ||
| It's too bad that that person got to a place where... | ||
| was and it doesn't mean that you just accept it but it means that that's really the only thing but instead we like to you know keep up this illusion of separateness like fuck that guy and we're on stuff shit yeah exactly but But really, only pity and empathy really come from that. | ||
| And that's a real state of bliss. | ||
| You know, like the Tibetan monks, that's what they're meditating on all the time, is getting to that state of empathy. | ||
| Well, to get to that state of empathy, just look at everybody like they're yourself. | ||
| And that's the key way to get in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Try pushing that in the public school system. | ||
| That's one of the key tenants of the public school system. | ||
| That would work, man. | ||
| It really would work. | ||
| It's almost like a simple key. | ||
| It unlocks a totally different style of thinking. | ||
| Start doing little things where it's like, what would put yourself in that other person's body? | ||
| Write from their perspective. | ||
| I don't know what school drills you could do. | ||
| Write a story as this person, your friend. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, and then tell them what, you know, feel what it's like to go through that. | ||
| Like, live these other multiple lives and you'll have, you'll understand that, yeah, you know, that could be me and what, and it'll start to evaporate that from an early age. | ||
| I think putting it in the school system is brilliant. | ||
| I think that's what needs to happen. | ||
| Yeah, there's a lot of things that need to happen with the school system, but that would definitely help the way... | ||
| That was taught as a tenant in school instead of reading the fucking Pledge of Allegiance. | ||
| You know, I mean, to the republic for which it stands. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Do you guys know what that means? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| One nation under God? | ||
| You know, that didn't even exist, kids, until the fucking Red Scare of the 1950s? | ||
| He used to say one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. | ||
| When we had to fight off the goddamn commies, we put in God under God, you fucks. | ||
| I mean, most people think that that was like how this nation was founded. | ||
| One nation under God. | ||
| No, that was in the 50s. | ||
| But everybody was losing their fucking mind. | ||
| And people were going on trial on a regular basis for being communists. | ||
| They were blackballing people that... | ||
| Look... | ||
| Think of the crazy shit that you and I have done and think of if we were living in the 1950s. | ||
| Did you, in fact, go to the jungle of Peru, Mr. Marcus? | ||
| And did you, in fact, imbibe in several toxic medicines? | ||
| You would look like a fucking complete nut if they brought you into some sort of a court setting in the 1950s. | ||
| But back then, you could even go to a communist meeting. | ||
| You couldn't go like, what is this about? | ||
| Like, what are you guys pushing? | ||
| You're pushing socialism? | ||
| And what does that mean? | ||
| Like, no one, you know, you do whatever you want. | ||
| Like, do you get paid by the government? | ||
| Like, how do you contribute? | ||
| Where's the money coming from? | ||
| Like, maybe just go and try to figure out what the fuck everyone's talking about. | ||
| And especially amongst creative folk. | ||
| I'm sure there's always been a lot of alternative thinkers, whether errant or on the right track. | ||
| There's been a lot of weird people that think outside the box, always. | ||
| So in the 1950s, these guys are probably looking at communism and going, okay, let's see. | ||
| Look, I got my fucking fortune read by Dianetics once, whatever. | ||
| I did one of those stress meters. | ||
| I said, okay, let me see what you got. | ||
| What if I got on a list because of that, man? | ||
| You know? | ||
| This was what was going on when they put under God. | ||
| In our Pledge of Allegiance. | ||
| It was that kind of madness, insane thinking. | ||
| They had to put, you know... | ||
| Yeah, well, these witch hunts have existed. | ||
| And again, tapping into these old mechanisms, these fear responses, these tribalism instincts. | ||
| And, you know, these witch hunts, we think, oh, the witch hunts are over. | ||
| Well, at one point, they're called witch hunts because they were literally hunting witches, throwing them in the water, and seeing if they would swim. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And if they drowned, then they weren't a witch. | ||
| If they swum, they were a witch, and even worse shit happened to them. | ||
| So... | ||
| You're completely fucked either way. | ||
| They're drowned. | ||
| They weren't a witch. | ||
| So sorry about your kid, Mr. Johnson. | ||
| I thought she was a witch. | ||
| It turns out she was just a shitty swimmer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that was the witch hunt. | ||
| But that's going on today and it's going on, you know, the area that we see it the most is in these psychedelic medicines. | ||
| You know, people are being hunted for manipulating their own consciousness. | ||
| You know, even with scientific research coming back, that it's beneficial. | ||
| They're being, you know, hunted down in these kind of crazy ways and thrown in cages for manipulating their own consciousness. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, there's not too many people getting arrested and thrown in jail for doing it. | ||
| They're getting arrested and thrown in jail for selling it. | ||
| But either way, you know, it's all stupid. | ||
| You should be able to sell things that are good. | ||
| It's really that simple. | ||
| This idea of these people that are non-experienced in these states of mind, they don't really know what they're talking about from a personal level, dictating the legality of those experiences is ridiculous. | ||
| And if those are the people that are locking you up, I'm kind of on your side. | ||
| You should be able to sell mushrooms. | ||
| Did you grow it? | ||
| Yeah, you deserve some money. | ||
| Did you grow tomatoes? | ||
| Yeah, I'll pay you for those too. | ||
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I don't want to have to grow my own- How are people supposed to get it if people don't sell it? | |
| What the fuck are we talking- he's a farmer! | ||
| He's a fucking farmer of awesome shit! | ||
| That's what a mushroom dealer is. | ||
| He's a farmer of awesome shit. | ||
| He's not a drug dealer, you dunce. | ||
| And you're subject to the whims of these people. | ||
| And that's the people that are willing to lock you in a cage in the first place. | ||
| They're fools. | ||
| Like, this is like, the worst way to deal with someone who's doing something to alter their consciousness is to put them in a fucking cage. | ||
| Like, this is the worst. | ||
| I think he was paranoid before, you know? | ||
| Imagine if you go to jail for weed, how fucking paranoid you get when you get high? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's preposterous. | ||
| Imagine if we were the owner of a pretty smart pet. | ||
| You know, let's say we had a pet chimpanzee. | ||
| You know, it's a very smart pet. | ||
| And the chimpanzee found something that reliably made him laugh his ass off and made him a better chimpanzee. | ||
| You know, what kind of owner would we be if we took that chimp and then threw him in the worst conditions in the tiniest cage and took away his freedom for doing that? | ||
| We'd think that person is a fucking despot. | ||
| Call animal control. | ||
| He's a fucking crazy person. | ||
| It's called law enforcement, Aubrey. | ||
| You're obviously not aware of what goes on there on the highways and byways of America's greats. | ||
| I pledge of allegiance to the flag! | ||
| Instead, I pledge to treat everybody as if it's me living another life. | ||
| If we started off every class like that, every school, I pledge to treat everybody I meet as if it's me living another life. | ||
| If everybody adheres to that, everybody, cross the board. | ||
| God damn, that would be a better place. | ||
| Wouldn't be so much ferocious competition, though. | ||
| That would suck. | ||
| Some fun shit happens when you don't like your opponent. | ||
| That's true, but I don't know that that has to go. | ||
| You know, I mean, I think that you can look at that opponent like, alright, he's the motherfucking mountain that's going to bring the best out of me. | ||
| So you're going to want to find that. | ||
| I loved it when Daniel Cormier said, I mean, obviously the fight wasn't that great, but he said, I've been waiting my whole life for a man who's my equal. | ||
| Jon Jones, be that man. | ||
| That idea, I think, embodies the beauty of what MMA can be. | ||
| It's like finding somebody that'll push you to the point that you've never been pushed before. | ||
| And I think that'll still exist, even in this state. | ||
| You'll just look at them like, that could be me. | ||
| This is me. | ||
| No worries. | ||
| We'll see what we can do to bring the best out of each Yeah, but not if you if you hate them, it's better. | ||
| It's better to watch. | ||
| It's richer. | ||
| When two people hate each other, it's better to watch. | ||
| It's richer, for sure. | ||
| And when there's some shit talking going on, like we were talking about the Chuck Liddell-Tito Ortiz fight. | ||
| Like when Chuck Liddell and Tito, they didn't like each other. | ||
| There's a lot of bad blood. | ||
| So when Chuck beat up Tito, that roar was like extra juicy. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It was extra crazy to watch because there was so much. | ||
| Like when Ronda Rousey fought Misha Tate, and they went through that whole season, the ultimate fighter together, and fuck. | ||
| And there's all this fucking craziness and all this anger and then Rhonda beats her ass and gets her in an arm bar again after all that like you're like wow That was wild to watch. | ||
| You're watching something like super primal Like you're not just watching it on a technical level where you watch two very high level martial artists like she was the first person to push her You know deep into the second and third round. | ||
| I think she caught her in the fourth round if I remember correctly. | ||
| It was third or fourth But, point being, like, they just didn't like each other, and that made it juicier. | ||
| It raises the emotional stakes, and I think that's also what's interesting, too. | ||
| Like, how are they going to perform when the stakes are even this high, and even this high, and even this high? | ||
| And when they hate each other, you know that it just escalates things, you know, to an even higher degree. | ||
| And that's, I think, why we even like watching the playoffs, is it's not that somebody gets a little trophy, and that's part of it, but it's, oh, now the stakes are higher. | ||
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Now... | |
| People are going to be crying after the game if they lose, and they're going to be ecstatic if they win, unlike the regular season where it's like, yeah, okay, it's just a game. | ||
| When the stakes get higher, it becomes more interesting because we're interested in the reaction that humans are going to have in these different scenarios. | ||
| Yeah, we wonder how we would fare. | ||
| I remember being a kid and watching boxing matches and seeing guys get beat up against the ropes or something like that, and you almost see yourself moving. | ||
| You're trying to figure out, what should he do? | ||
| He's got to get out of there. | ||
| He's got to hit that guy. | ||
| But you don't really know how to fight, but you're still watching it, and you're just like... | ||
| It's like you're putting yourself sort of in there in some way. | ||
| You're watching it. | ||
| Especially back then, I always had a guy. | ||
| You know, I was rooting for this guy, I was rooting for that guy. | ||
| You know, boxing fans would always have a guy you'd pick. | ||
| Like, I'm a De La Hoya fan. | ||
| Fuck him, bro! | ||
| Who else is Chavez and shit? | ||
| And people would have those fucking guys that they would stick with. | ||
| And when your guy's getting beat up or he's in trouble, you're not appreciating it on a technical level. | ||
| You're almost like, oh! | ||
| You're almost like getting beat up yourself. | ||
| I remember one of the most terrifying moments I had, because I've done striking since I was little, never that serious, but I had a lot of instructors who were very complimentary early. | ||
| So they had me believing that, man, Aubrey, you hit someone, they're done, son. | ||
| I had this kind of false belief, and obviously once I started sparring, I realized that that wasn't the case, but I had some remnants. | ||
| Of that, that I was carrying, and then I saw Kimbo slice in one of these street fights, right? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| In a bare knuckle fight, and this other huge dude catches him with a left hook, and Kimbo just drops his hand and goes, hit me again, motherfucker, hit me again, and just leans forward with his head, and the other dude hits him again and does nothing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Does nothing. | ||
| He says, now you're dead, motherfucker, and then catches him with this uppercut and just blows up his face. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Exploded his face. | ||
| And I was like, there's nothing I could do to that guy if he was that fired up and charging. | ||
| And it was this terrifying moment where you realize what your boundaries are in the world. | ||
| I couldn't hit him and knock him out. | ||
| Everything I'd been told was bullshit. | ||
| There's no way I could do anything to that man at that point. | ||
| Well, physical size and structure is so giant, and he actually knows how to fight, too. | ||
| But physical size and structure is so fucking big. | ||
| It's so important. | ||
| We look at it in terms of its success in weight classes, and the really big, strong guys don't necessarily tend to be the best guys in the weight class. | ||
| It's about whose body's optimized for that weight class, so you don't really want to be carrying around a lot of muscle. | ||
| But if you are, and someone's smaller than you, it makes you better. | ||
| It makes you fucking bigger and stronger and everything works better. | ||
| It might not work as good against another guy who's 240 pounds who's like got a leaner body and better lungs, but, you know, Kimbo Slice is a goddamn giant human being who can punch people in the face all the time with no gloves on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, Jesus. | ||
| He's fighting again, you know. | ||
| He's fighting Ken Shamrock. | ||
| He was a guy that, you know, I think never really fought to what his physical capability was. | ||
| Like, his hardware had a certain potential, like the limits on it. | ||
| Like, if you look at him like a computer, he's like, oh, it's got this much, you know, these attributes, this much remedy, this much memory, this much RAM, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| But the software running it inside the cage, I felt like never optimized what his gifts were, you know? | ||
| Another one of those interesting things where psychologically it didn't bring the best out of what his frame Could be. | ||
| Yeah, that's interesting, man. | ||
| You know, he had problems before he ever even got on the Ultimate Fighter with his knees. | ||
| His knees are pretty significantly diminished. | ||
| He has, like, serious, like, bone-on-bone, like, arthritis-type conditions in his knees. | ||
| And so, like, for him, like, grappling is an issue, kicking's an issue, all those things are issues, you know, and he, you know, he had a lifetime of sports, football, and, you know, did a lot of, uh, Striking training obviously all the over the years man chewed that shit up especially football football's brutal on the knees man carrying porn stars in and out of limos that happens You know he had to do that a lot do that. | ||
| Yeah, they're probably like him. | ||
| Yeah probably he's he's also He's in a weird time like he might be like a little too Late for like all the rejuvenation shit that they're coming up with right now like they're 3d mapping meniscus Have you seen this? | ||
| Dude, they have some article about how they're 3D mapping essentially what it looks like. | ||
| It's like a scaffolding for meniscus. | ||
| And there's certain proteins in this. | ||
| They insert it into the space between your joint, you know, where your meniscus is. | ||
| Which, you know, now when you get it scoped, like, I had my left knee scoped a few years back. | ||
| Like, you don't get any extra padding back. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Like, your padding is diminished now. | ||
| The knee doesn't bother me. | ||
| It feels way better than when it was fucked up. | ||
| Now what they're doing is they're just taking it all out, and they're putting this 3D thing that they 3D print, and with these proteins in it, your body starts building meniscus inside this framework somehow or another. | ||
| I might be totally butchering this. | ||
| But essentially, they have artificial meniscus for the first time ever. | ||
| They really weren't able to fix that thing. | ||
| There's actually two different solutions, I think, currently on the horizon. | ||
| But this knee meniscus generated with 3D implant. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| You can watch it. | ||
| It's just a perfect fit. | ||
| I mean, we're going to get to the point where our bodies are just like cars. | ||
| You know, you can upgrade any system. | ||
| You can change it out. | ||
| And I think the crazy thing that we alluded to, they'll come a point where I believe we'll be able to upload our consciousness into a brand new car. | ||
| You know, and that will be the point of immortality to a certain degree because you could just keep creating these new cars and then just upload your car. | ||
| Oh shit, I fucking fucked this one up. | ||
| I got cancer. | ||
| I crashed it. | ||
| No worries. | ||
| Let me hop over into this other one. | ||
| What if that's hell? | ||
| What if that's hell? | ||
| What if heaven is just getting over this body and achieving the next state of consciousness, which is non-local, completely undependent upon your physical prison, but you were like, dude, you were just going to get out of jail, and you decided to transfer your sentence to some cyber prison where you'll live in your own mind forever and ever and ever, repeating yourself ad nauseum through space. | ||
| Instead, you could have been one with the great consciousness of the universe. | ||
| Especially if no one who passed over to the other side could communicate. | ||
| You know, they'd be just yelling from the other... | ||
| Don't do it! | ||
| Just die! | ||
| You'll see. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| You get to start again anyways, and it's more awesome. | ||
| Because you get this side and then that side. | ||
| Who fucking knows, man. | ||
| I'm not totally enthusiastic about the prospect of becoming one of those gray aliens, though. | ||
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No. | |
| Me neither. | ||
| I've been talking about that for years, about that simulation theory. | ||
| I talked to this guy, Richard Turiel, who's from the JPL Laboratories, when I was doing that Joe Rogan Questions Everything show. | ||
| For whatever reason, when you talk to a serious, legitimate, working scientist, an actual doctor of science, If you talk to them about it, it just makes it seem like way more palatable than if you talk to Duncan. | ||
| But when Duncan talks about it, it seems a little bit more sexy. | ||
| But this guy, what he was saying essentially is that it's basically inevitable that we're going to come up with some sort of an artificial reality. | ||
| That is indiscernible from the reality that we're currently enjoying. | ||
| It's going to be artificial. | ||
| We're going to create it. | ||
| We're going to be totally manipulated. | ||
| It's going to evolve over time. | ||
| It's going to get better and better as the technology moves on and on. | ||
| It's going to get to a point where you literally are not going to be able to tell the difference. | ||
| And if that's the case, Has that already happened? | ||
| And if it has already happened, would you be able to be aware of it? | ||
| What would you be if we had gotten past this? | ||
| Well, if you go back to fucking gorillas, you look at gorillas, you look at lower primates, you look at these dick-swinging monkeys hanging out in Africa, you know, just swinging from tree to tree until somebody figured out how to become a person, right? | ||
| Over all these years, however the hell it went. | ||
| Look at what they look like. | ||
| Look at a gorilla. | ||
| And then look at a person. | ||
| And look at the feminized person of the modern era. | ||
| And then look at those goddamn aliens. | ||
| It's almost like that's the archetype. | ||
| Like, we know that's coming. | ||
| Like, we know the big head, no mouth, you don't need to talk. | ||
| You wear permanent sunglasses because you fucked up the ozone layer. | ||
| You know, your skin is like some sort of a gray bulletproof material that we've, you know, you don't have any sex organs because you can experience any pleasurable Kundalini yoga state in your mind anytime you want. | ||
| Like regular blowjobs is just not that exciting when you can, you know, travel from dimension to dimension. | ||
| That might even be how they're arriving and going back and forth. | ||
| But there might be a part of them miss his head. | ||
| Misses muscle cars. | ||
| Misses whiskey. | ||
| Obviously the vision state, you don't know if it's real or in your mind, whatever. | ||
| I don't even make that discernment, but when I was in that vision state and talking to them, they missed it. | ||
| They missed it. | ||
| They missed it. | ||
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We're lucky. | |
| We're in the right spot. | ||
| We got the honey hole. | ||
| This is the Goldilocks zone. | ||
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That's it. | |
| We get to access everything. | ||
| We get to access everything, and there's a time where we're sort of working it out. | ||
| Like, there's a culture. | ||
| People are working it out, I think. | ||
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There's a lot of... | |
| In the working out, there's a lot of noise and chaos and shit that's going on, I think. | ||
| Tea party people and fucking Occupy people. | ||
| There's a lot of cult of personality and cult of ideology that's going along with a lot of these things. | ||
| But... | ||
| Throughout all of it, throughout people complaining about fat shaming and, you know, all the weird uber sensitivity that you see today. | ||
| The trend, though, all of it seems to be this kind of emerging understanding of how we interact with each other. | ||
| It's like, there's battles back and forth, there's waves, but like, if you're looking at like, what is this, when this, all this water settles, what am I seeing here? | ||
| What am I seeing here? | ||
| I'm seeing an emerging understanding. | ||
| Emerging understanding and along the way there's a lot of competing factions that want to be the most morally upstanding and take the high ground and be the one who is always there to call bullshit and the social justice warriors that are Just looking to be mean so that they can prove to you the way to live right. | ||
| Like looking to find people aren't living the way they're living and just shitting all over them and shame them into a different way of thinking. | ||
| All this is just emerging. | ||
| It's an emerging understanding of what we are and the connectivity that we share and the demands. | ||
| Like when you see these Black Lives Matter marches and these protests, these people would walk around in these I Can't Breathe shirts. | ||
| They're expanding this understanding of the reach of the upset people. | ||
| Like, this is not a minor thing that you can only, you know, vote about every four years. | ||
| This is something you can put a giant ripple in the entire culture right now by everybody just wearing a bunch of t-shirts that say something on it. | ||
| And then everybody realizes, like, okay, this is, it's not just a social media trend. | ||
| It's not just a hashtag. | ||
| On Twitter and Facebook. | ||
| It's also, like, the entire country, like a big chunk of it, collectively saying, hey, this is fucked up. | ||
| Like, we can do better. | ||
| And, oh, we can talk about this. | ||
| And, oh, you know, we're connected in some fucking weird way now where we can kind of organize shit like this collectively. | ||
| And, you know, there's no real leader. | ||
| There's no real leader of any of those movements. | ||
| But people gravitate towards them. | ||
| And so those things, they all have that in common. | ||
| They all have this new connectivity thing in common. | ||
| And I think that's really the trend. | ||
| And we're able to draw wisdom, pieces of wisdom, from all different disciplines. | ||
| And that's been something cool that I've Seeing as I've gotten, you know, the ability to reach more different people, experts in certain things, you know, will come in and add a little piece of understanding from their traditional scope where, you know, most people wouldn't even get to put that in part of their framework. | ||
| You know, and you get to add that piece and add this piece over here. | ||
| Like, you know, I can get a piece from Duncan about Buddhism. | ||
| And one of these great pieces that he added recently is the Buddhists have a name for that visceral feeling you get right before you do something bad and get angry at someone or that emotion. | ||
| Well, the Buddhists have a name for that little feeling that comes up. | ||
| You know, I was like, oh yeah, I've felt that little fucking thing that comes out. | ||
| It's like this rush of energy right before you do something, you know, you really know that you shouldn't do. | ||
| And then so you add that little piece of understanding, aha, the name of that thing is this, so I can be more conscious of it and aware of it. | ||
| And then I have another friend, you know, Ted, who studies the Christian text and puts new meaning to what those things were before they were manipulated for power and kind of maneuvered and Like, ah, okay, so we can add that. | ||
| And then so you start to piece together this understanding where, of course, there's no leader. | ||
| It's just led by, you know, truth and consciousness. | ||
| And that's, I think, the next wave is just finding what feels real, what feels right, what you can use to make your life better. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Also, we just know, there's so much information available today, I think it's easier to kind of get an understanding of what's tripping you up. | ||
| You know, it's easier to get an understanding of, like, there's a lot of people that behave in a certain way, like that Redneck song that we're talking about. | ||
| And they've been supporting that, and they've been like, man, he had to do what he had to do. | ||
| You know, he had to do what he had to do. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You leave a man alone when you gotta do what you gotta do. | ||
| And that sort of, like, perpetuating that... | ||
| Over and over and over again, like if you do that over a long period of time, it can ruin an entire area. | ||
| Like if a bunch of people think like that, like, oh, this area's polluted with this idea. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like it gets polluted, like polluted with he gotta do what he gotta do. | ||
| You know, like there's areas of the country that for the longest time were polluted, where if you were in an interracial relationship, you couldn't walk down the street. | ||
| If you walked down the street, you would risk physical attack. | ||
| Because you had a black girlfriend, or you had a white girlfriend, and you're a black guy, or whatever. | ||
| That was a reality for a long time in the South. | ||
| It's still a reality in some spots. | ||
| There's places you go, there's weird places in Texas where you take a few left turns, you drive for a few hours, and all of a sudden you're in this fucking weird place. | ||
| And there's some people that don't have a whole lot of contact with the outside world. | ||
| That's an outlier. | ||
| That's like one of those weird bases that they would go to on Star Wars when they needed fuel. | ||
| You know, like, what the fuck are we doing out here? | ||
| Like, let's get out of here! | ||
| You know, that's literally where you are. | ||
| You're in a colony. | ||
| Like some weird post that never caught on. | ||
| And it's in the middle of some weird place, East Texas. | ||
| And you're like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| Those spots are still real, man. | ||
| They're still real. | ||
| And they're getting less real all the time. | ||
| And I think... | ||
| You know, the big push is always just that human beings are constantly trying to improve. | ||
| I mean, we constantly try to improve everything. | ||
| And we're going to try to improve culture and relations and understanding. | ||
| And if you look at the way things are now, as opposed to the way they were just in the early 1900s, I mean, the changes have been pretty fucking dramatic. | ||
| From 1900 to 2015 is, you know, massive. | ||
| But it's only 115 years. | ||
| 115 years in the real world is like, God damn, that's a blink of an eye. | ||
| That is a fucking blink of an eye. | ||
| If you chart time... | ||
| Time versus change. | ||
| It takes this hockey stick curve way up because things are going so fast. | ||
| But I think one point that you've made often is, you know, these conditions that are really fucked up, they have a reaction on the other side. | ||
| They form resistance that allows people to actually Propel themselves even farther in the other direction. | ||
| You know, it's like the action has a reaction. | ||
| So the bias towards, you know, the racial bias, for example, can actually potentially propel people the other side to make greater leaps in consciousness and understanding what we're talking about, that we're all just ourselves living another life. | ||
| You know, like these conditions can create a positive response. | ||
| And I think that's kind of what we're seeing at this point. | ||
| Yeah, and then the social justice warrior overreaction is really just a reach. | ||
| It's like a comedian who makes a shitty joke. | ||
| It's essentially the same kind of thing. | ||
| It's like it's just missing the mark. | ||
| I think there's a lot of white people, especially when anything goes wrong, where they are struggling to appear down. | ||
| You know, and they'll sometimes be racist against white people in order to show that they love black people so much and they're not racist at all. | ||
| There's a bunch of people that I follow and I can't tell you who they are because then they'll know and they'll change their behavior and it'll affect my studies. | ||
| But it's fascinating to see people like write racist stuff against white people. | ||
| I think it's okay. | ||
| Like, you're allowed to generalize against white people. | ||
| You know how fucking goofy that is? | ||
| Like, I know a lot of really fucking cool white people. | ||
| And I know that's not popular to say. | ||
| Like, for some reason, you're supposed to be embarrassed about being white. | ||
| And if you are, you're definitely embarrassed of knowing white people that you like. | ||
| You have to, like, talk about how many black people you know that you like. | ||
| I know a lot of black people I like too. | ||
| But I also know a lot of awesome fucking white people. | ||
| And I think generalizing towards any fucking gender, ethnicity, whatever, it's stupid. | ||
| I'm not going to do it. | ||
| I'm not going to pretend. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Modifying any aspect of your behavior one way or another because of identification with the color of skin and genetics... | ||
| That is just perpetuating it, you know, even further. | ||
| That idea of separateness that my tribe, your tribe. | ||
| So overcompensating is in itself a form of racism to a certain degree. | ||
| You know, just be real. | ||
| Just treat people as fucking as humans. | ||
| Don't worry about overcompensating or compensating. | ||
| And that's also in terms of sexism, because there's a lot of men who are sexist against men. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They really are. | ||
| They'll take a woman's side automatically to be a white knight, and that's one of the things that people hate on the internet. | ||
| They hate white knights. | ||
| People get crazy when they catch someone doing it, when it's pretty obvious what they're doing. | ||
| When someone is not looking at the objective facts, or the... | ||
| Okay, what was really going on here? | ||
| What's the real story? | ||
| And they automatically aside with the woman's... | ||
| With the woman's take on things and when you see that especially when it gets revealed the one was full of shit later It's always so juicy and glorious. | ||
| I love following those fucking trails and watching it all play out It's just it's so bizarre. | ||
| It's so bizarre to watch that behavior that Smeagol from the fucking Lord of the Rings like behavior And that's really what it's like. | ||
| There's something that they're doing. | ||
| They're like It's like you're distorting reality for your own benefit to try to appear that you're adhering to a higher moral standard than those around you to make yourself look more desirable. | ||
| It's really that simple, and it's fucking gross. | ||
| And people's, you know, at that point, people's belief detectors, that thing that we use to know when someone's faulty and cracked, they start going haywire, you know? | ||
| Gears start flying off. | ||
| You're like, you're fucking up to something here. | ||
| This is not just you. | ||
| And so the belief detectors go crazy. | ||
| Yeah, that's the beta thinking. | ||
| It's okay to be beta. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's not good for you. | ||
| You don't have to be alpha either. | ||
| I feel like there's a state of acceptance that you should probably achieve instead of either or. | ||
| Just being what you're capable of being, that's it. | ||
| Yeah, you don't have to try to be alpha. | ||
| There's this one quote that I've been kind of stuck on recently, and it pertains to starting right now at this point, and it's from William Butler Yeats, and he said, Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot, but make the iron hot by striking. | ||
| That guy doesn't know how irons work. | ||
| That guy's an idiot. | ||
| It doesn't work that way. | ||
| You gotta throw the iron in there. | ||
| What the fuck, dude? | ||
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These fucking poets that have never worked as a blacksmith, exactly! | |
| He's a poet. | ||
| He is a poet. | ||
| He's being silly. | ||
| He's a silly boy. | ||
| He's never hit anything. | ||
| Strike. | ||
| Make the iron high. | ||
| It doesn't work that way. | ||
| Well, things do get hot when you smash them. | ||
| You'd have to fucking be really ineffective with your striking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Truth. | ||
| We've dismantled Butler Yeats as a blacksmith. | ||
| But the idea is, you know, just fucking go at it by start, just start doing it. | ||
| You know, I mean, we're talking all this philosophy about what you can, and that may seem out of reach to people, like, oh, how am I going to do that? | ||
| How would I, you know, do martial arts? | ||
| I've never even come close to that. | ||
| Well, you just do it. | ||
| You don't wait for this perfect opportunity when job and money and everything aligns and You read your fucking horoscope in the paper, and it says you're gonna try new things this day, and everything is just perfect. | ||
| Just do it. | ||
| Just go out there, do a little bit. | ||
| Dude, Anthony Bardain started jujitsu at 58. 58. No athletic background. | ||
| Used to do heroin. | ||
| Smoked cigarettes five years ago. | ||
| I mean, this guy started jujitsu at 50 fucking eight years old. | ||
| Now he does it every day. | ||
| He does it like two hours a day. | ||
| He has a private lesson every day and takes a class every day. | ||
| Like, what the fuck, man? | ||
| He takes a class, then he works on all the shit he did wrong with an instructor, and the guy goes over positions with him. | ||
| You can do things, okay? | ||
| As long as you can figure out a way to finance it. | ||
| What do I do? | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| You're on your own path, fuckface. | ||
| I might be you living another life, but in your life, you gotta get your own shit together. | ||
| I don't have time to figure out what you should do, okay? | ||
| That's what you're supposed to do, and I don't know you, dude. | ||
| That's the other problem. | ||
| You know, you can't give anybody advice because, you know, like if you're talking to someone and they want to be a lounge singer and they sound like shit, and you go, well, first of all, lounge singing? | ||
| I don't know if there's a future in that. | ||
| And second of all, dude, your voice is dog shit. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| Like, that guy's got to figure out how to make his voice good. | ||
| That's a lot of work. | ||
| He's got to revive lounge singing. | ||
| So he's got to fucking, you can't give everyone advice, but what you can do Have these kind of conversations be really honest about what's worked and what hasn't worked for you and Point out all the shit that you're noticing in this crazy world. | ||
| That's what we've been able to do That's what most folks that are online that are tuned into the world have been able to do with information and news and and and just Discussion that that's going on now and that really Hasn't ever taken place like this before amongst people, where people are like debating issues all across the country, and whether it's fucking Obamacare, or whether it's the fucking invasion of Persia, whatever the fuck it is, isn't even a country anymore, is it? | ||
| You know what I'm saying, anything that's going on in the world, The ability to write blogs, to discuss it, to have people leaving comments on those blogs, to have people writing tweets, responding to those tweets, those tweets becoming articles. | ||
| Let's debate the merits of this tweet. | ||
| This is like, whether it's right or wrong, whether it's ideologically driven, whether it's honest or manipulated, it's a weird exchange. | ||
| There's an exchange of data that's going on now. | ||
| In this really weird state that I think we're just so caught up in it that we're not realizing how much is changing. | ||
| You're not supposed to say retard anymore. | ||
| You know that? | ||
| Yeah, they're slowly but surely closing in on all the words that might potentially hurt people's feelings. | ||
| You're not supposed to say, you know, all the standard ones, right? | ||
| Like fag. | ||
| You're not supposed to say any racial slurs. | ||
| Those are all out the window. | ||
| Those are getting removed from our culture. | ||
| Over a period way quicker than it's ever happened before. | ||
| They're going at it the wrong way. | ||
| They're saying these things can hurt you. | ||
| So they're telling people that they're vulnerable. | ||
| You're vulnerable because these things can hurt you. | ||
| So we're going to remove these things. | ||
| Whereas really the message should be that you're fucking invincible. | ||
| That word can't hurt you unless you let that word hurt you. | ||
| You know, you have the right of your own sovereignty of how you feel about yourself. | ||
| That... | ||
| Someone saying a word shouldn't make you feel any different way. | ||
| Oh, that's interesting. | ||
| You feel that way. | ||
| I'm sorry that you're in a state that you have that much anger and prejudice that you feel that way, but it doesn't affect you. | ||
| Listen to you, Richard Gere. | ||
| That's... | ||
| That's the way that, you know, that's the way that we got to do it. | ||
| Not remove all of these potential things that can hurt you. | ||
| Just tell people, hey, motherfucker, you're invincible as far as your emotional state if you want to be. | ||
| Also, it's really, you make a person more vulnerable when you make words taboo. | ||
| You make those words have more power, whether those words are racial, whether they're about gender or sexual orientation, whatever the slurs are, you make them way more powerful when you make them taboo. | ||
| If you call someone a fucker, if that hurts your feelings, we can't talk. | ||
| Like, hey, fucker, come on, man. | ||
| Like, if someone does something and knocks a drink over on your lap, like, hey, fucker, what up, man? | ||
| If you can't say that to someone, you can't be friends with that person. | ||
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Right. | |
| You can't. | ||
| They're too goddamn sensitive. | ||
| But if a guy spilled a drink in your lap and he was gay and you're like, you faggot. | ||
| Like, whoa. | ||
| Everybody just dropped their drinks at the bar. | ||
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What did he say? | |
| Did you hear the noise he made? | ||
| What is the noise that came out of his mouth? | ||
| Was it F-A-G-G-O-T? Is that what he said? | ||
| Wow, I can't believe he made that noise. | ||
| What is his intent? | ||
| What is really going on in his head? | ||
| Does he not know that it's a taboo word? | ||
| Like, everybody just shuffles out of the party. | ||
| Well, I guess this fucking party's over. | ||
| And people leave. | ||
| Like, there's certain circles where if you did something like that, just even as a joke, You would automatically get ostracized. | ||
| You would automatically get like... | ||
| So, is that smart? | ||
| To give a word that much power? | ||
| No. | ||
| But are they onto something that you shouldn't be the type of person that wants to use that word in a negative way? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But are they not onto something because they forget about humor? | ||
| And one of the beautiful things about humor is you say shit you don't really mean because it's a funny thing to do. | ||
| What's funny about it is that you know someone doesn't really mean it. | ||
| Like calling your gay friend a faggot because he spilled his drink on you. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| We would all laugh. | ||
| If we were hanging around with Justin Martindale and he spilled a drink in my lap, I wouldn't say that. | ||
| I would never call him a faggot. | ||
| But if Jamie did, because Jamie's that kind of guy. | ||
| He's from Columbus, Ohio. | ||
| That's how they are out there. | ||
| They just think of faggot Tourette's. | ||
| But, you know, if anybody has a problem with that, like, you'd either think that Jamie's really capable of being homophobic and using a slur to, like, he hates you so much that a simple act of lack of coordination and an accidental spilt beverage leads to this fucking unleashing of these horrible phrases at you. | ||
| Well, it's like, you know, you're a parent and when you have a kid and if they do something like they fall down and they kind of bump their knee or something, if you go, oh my God, what did you do? | ||
| Are you okay? | ||
| They're going to think their injury is way fucking worse. | ||
| They're going to freak out like, oh my God, you're freaked out. | ||
| My belief detector is saying that you believe something terrible is happening. | ||
| So something terrible is happening. | ||
| Whereas if you're like, you're all right, get up. | ||
| It's all good. | ||
| You know, dust it off. | ||
| They'll be like, oh, okay. | ||
| Maybe they'll cry a little bit, but they'll feel okay about it. | ||
| And what we're doing in society is we're saying, oh my god, he said faggot, oh my god. | ||
| It's telling that person that we believe that this is really hurting you, so it's actually causing the antithesis of what the goal is. | ||
| Where it should be saying, say whatever the fuck you want. | ||
| It doesn't fucking matter. | ||
| You know, you shouldn't be the kind of person that's saying it maliciously. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, and that's the other part of what we've been talking about. | ||
| But if no matter what is said, it doesn't matter. | ||
| You're a human being and your psyche is made of diamonds and the world is full of fucking pillows. | ||
| Like, that's it. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Strong words. | ||
| I see their point. | ||
| I see wanting to never be around someone who drops M-bombs, you know, and wanting to not be around someone who's prejudiced against someone. | ||
| Sure, because it's the consciousness that's the problem. | ||
| It's not the words. | ||
| We're looking too downstream. | ||
| We're trying to look at these downstream effects, but really the problem there is you're with an unconscious person who fails to see the platinum rule, which is we're all the same fucking person. | ||
| Yeah, and the real attention should be focused on enhancing our understanding of each other, enhancing our understanding of our true connectivity, and not of demonizing the noises that you make out of your face. | ||
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Totally. | |
| That's silly thinking. | ||
| It's like short-sighted thinking. | ||
| It's like, I appreciate your horror in the expression of racism, but I just think that the best way to approach it is to, first of all, lead by example, be someone who you would want to imitate. | ||
| Be someone who you'd want to imitate. | ||
| It's a great way to overcome a lot of things as far as the way people interact with you. | ||
| Everyone who interacts with anybody is always influenced by someone's success or failure. | ||
| I mean, I never did coke because I was around people who did coke and their lives fell apart. | ||
| I was like, whoa, keep away from coke. | ||
| But I've been around people who are really hard workers and really disciplined, and I get excited by them. | ||
| I get stimulated. | ||
| And I think we're entirely... | ||
| We're way more way more dependent upon the atmosphere of others and the the the Inspiration of others than we like to pretend we're way more way more and I think that One of the bad things about short-sighted, black and white issues, and I don't mean black and white in a literal sense, I mean as far as someone never using a word. | ||
| You can never use that word. | ||
| It's like, well, the human mind is capable of a lot of different subtleties and variations, and when you're talking about language especially, you're dealing with a lot of subtlety. | ||
| You're dealing with some really funny things that go on with people, and some of those funny things make personalities exciting. | ||
| Like, Neil Brennan had this fucking hilarious joke. | ||
| Where he used to do this thing all the time with his friends in New York. | ||
| Where he would go, what's going on with the weather today? | ||
| And they'd go, oh man, it's snow. | ||
| And he'd go, fucking niggers. | ||
| If anybody knows Neil Brennan, he's like one of the least racist human beings you'll ever meet in your life. | ||
| I mean, he has a podcast that's all about interviewing successful black people. | ||
| Him and Moshe Kasher have that podcast, The Champs, where almost all of it is like successful black artists, successful black athletes. | ||
| Like, he's not racist in the least. | ||
| He might hate white people. | ||
| You know, but he's funny, you know, and that's what funny people do when you know they're not racist, and it's hilarious. | ||
| You know, you laugh because you know him, and you know me, and it's like, it's funny. | ||
| You know, he was the fucking co-creator of The Chappelle Show. | ||
| I mean, he's not racist. | ||
| Well, he's just pointing out, and that's what a lot of humor does. | ||
| It points out things that we're not aware of. | ||
| Like, this is how ridiculous some of the scapegoatism that we use. | ||
| Oh, it's because, and people have used, oh, it's the It's the Blacks. | ||
| It's blah blah blah. | ||
| It shows how ridiculous. | ||
| The snow is completely unrelated. | ||
| And so that's why it's funny. | ||
| It's like, it's funny because that's happened before. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's obviously a huge exaggeration of an idiot. | ||
| But it's hilarious. | ||
| But that's the problem with eliminating words. | ||
| You know, you eliminate words. | ||
| You say he should never be able to say that? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| That moment that we just laughed. | ||
| Do I have to say the n-bomb? | ||
| You know, he said fucking n-bombs. | ||
| Like, come on, really? | ||
| Is that what we're doing? | ||
| That's silly. | ||
| That's silly. | ||
| It's intent is the most critical aspect of human beings communicating with each other. | ||
| What are you trying to get through? | ||
| What is your intent? | ||
| What are you trying to say? | ||
| Like, oftentimes, like, you'll hear people speak in political terms or in very measured terms, and instead of making you feel calm, it actually makes you uneasy. | ||
| He's like, oh, God, I don't even know what the fuck this guy really feels. | ||
| Like, I'm getting this PC or this, uh, um, um, uh, I'm not getting the true emotion. | ||
| The fact that we have to judge our politicians based on these really practice staged events rather than real adversity, you know, like that's where we should be able to judge our politicians. | ||
| What happens when they're rolling for two hours and they're getting their ass kicked? | ||
| How do they respond after that? | ||
| What happens when they do a psychedelic? | ||
| What happens when they do this thing? | ||
| That's how we should judge the character, the people who are leading. | ||
| And back when these politicians emerged from amongst the people, they emerged because people understood that. | ||
| Like, that's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| He can handle it. | ||
| If shit goes wrong, you know, I'm going to his house. | ||
| And that guy was the leader back then, but now it's not. | ||
| Yeah, now it's just who's better at those fake speeches. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| I think, you know, we almost harp on psychedelics too much. | ||
| But that's because we've done them. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| People who haven't done them are like, these guys are idiots. | ||
| They're just talking about, oh yeah, drugs are the solution. | ||
| It's a goddamn shortcut. | ||
| I'll tell you that. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| It's a goddamn giant shortcut. | ||
| But I think that if we did have some sort of an experience, even if it's just a physical trial, like if you had to watch them go through a mud race together, how would they push each other away? | ||
| Do they concentrate on their own performance? | ||
| Do they try to hold people down? | ||
| Like, look, look, look, Al Gore's grabbing his shoelaces. | ||
| He's untying the guy's shoes. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, if you saw them, you saw their character emerge. | ||
| Character under adversity. | ||
| Some form of it. | ||
| Some form of competition. | ||
| You know, it would be fascinating to see how these guys performed. | ||
| You know, I think when you hear, like, Bill Clinton, who I think is a very intelligent guy, says he... | ||
| He would do these talks where he would talk about the difference between what the Democrats have done and the Republicans have done. | ||
| And it was very, like, team-based. | ||
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We did this, we did this, we did that, we did... | |
| They haven't been able to do it since. | ||
| It's like, us and them and they and us. | ||
| And he, like, constantly talks about this team thing that's going on. | ||
| You realize, like, he's in this weird competition with these people. | ||
| You know like this is like he's like gloating and you know he's looking at the scoreboard. | ||
| We're number one! | ||
| We're number one! | ||
| I mean that's essentially what you're doing and if you want to get elected in this country and under especially those conditions back then maybe not as much now but you know it's kind of morphing in some weird place now. | ||
| That's what you had to do. | ||
| You had to have that mindset. | ||
| So that was the game. | ||
| The game's not that anymore. | ||
| No. | ||
| The game is the goddamn internet. | ||
| The internet is the portal of consciousness, the portal of information. | ||
| It's the portal of connectivity in a way that just didn't exist before. | ||
| So these fucking guys are there, my fellow Americans. | ||
| Like, come on, man. | ||
| Like, that shit is not gonna keep flying. | ||
| There's gonna come a point in time where we wanna watch you go to the jungle. | ||
| How do you deal with mosquitoes when you're high as fuck? | ||
| I want to see what happens if you eat some mushrooms and sit in a quiet room by yourself. | ||
| I want to see what goes on in your mind when you eat a pot cookie and you think you're going to die and then you climb into an isolation tank. | ||
| I want to know what the fuck goes on in there, man. | ||
| What kind of thoughts about your high school did you have? | ||
| How do you feel about yourself now? | ||
| Are you happy with the momentum that you've created? | ||
| Would you like to trim back some of these fucking roads that you've got? | ||
| Travel on. | ||
| What would you like to do? | ||
| Do you know who you are right now or are you a product of the momentum of your past? | ||
| And I'm not sure. | ||
| It's hard to tell. | ||
| You gotta see someone struggle. | ||
| You gotta see them. | ||
| That's the key. | ||
| 30 seconds! | ||
| 30 seconds! | ||
| Keep going! | ||
| Okay, my feet hurt. | ||
| I got some gout, something wrong with my balls. | ||
| You know like you're gonna see you're gonna see who they really are other than that that nice person in that nice suit with the perfect smile Yeah, and I think that's the direction that things are going, you know, and I'm encouraged by that I think you know the internet's already gotten rid of a lot of the hypocrisy because things get found out You know, the transparency has increased, but as consciousness increases, I think the demand for a conscious leader will become overwhelming. | ||
| And only when the demand for a conscious leader is there will one emerge and actually succeed. | ||
| So, you know, instead of focusing on the politicians, let's just focus on raising consciousness everywhere so that the demand is so high that one will emerge to meet that demand. | ||
| It's also we're in a situation where as far as education goes, as far as the roads, as far as like food, food comes in, we're dealing with like these structures that are already there. | ||
| They're already there and people seek to improve them. | ||
| They seek to improve the prison structures and the jail sentencing, you know, all the different bullshit that people hate about police brutality. | ||
| They seek to improve those structures. | ||
| Instead of like trying a new one, like from scratch, And that's what I think, like, when you see something like Waco, Texas, Waco's obviously a bad idea, what they did at the Vidian Complex, they stocked up weapons, they were shooting at the feds, some wild Texans running a cult, the guy was banging everybody's wife, allegedly. | ||
| You know, that's how it goes when it goes wrong. | ||
| But the idea of creating a community, like organizing and engineering a community with resources, including security, is a dangerous thought. | ||
| Like, people go, hey, hey, what you trying to do? | ||
| You trying to start your own army? | ||
| No, we just have guns in case somebody fucks with us. | ||
| Oh, that sounds like an army to me. | ||
| Well, aren't we allowed to defend ourselves individually? | ||
| Individually, you can have your own weapon that you can use as a home security device. | ||
| But what you can't do is get together with others and patrol your neighborhood as a home security patrol. | ||
| And then a home security- we have a neighborhood patrol- we decided to have a citywide security team. | ||
| That sounds like an army boy. | ||
| Well, we do have bulletproof tanks and laser beams, but it's just to kill bad guys. | ||
| Like, no, no, no, no, no, that's our job, you fuck! | ||
| You're getting in on the government's territory! | ||
| And then they'll come down, the feds will fucking jackbooted thugs, kick in your door, flamethrower your kids, and start from scratch. | ||
| Like, look, we told you. | ||
| No compounds. | ||
| No high fences. | ||
| No more than 30 people with guns that live under one roof. | ||
| You just can't do it. | ||
| It's a fascinating idea, but I think that you're going to see... | ||
| There's a town in Texas that I talked about this the other day, and people actually got upset about it, that I talked about it. | ||
| They fired the cops in 2012, hired a private company to patrol the streets. | ||
| Crime went down by 61%. | ||
| The cops have no financial vested interest in writing tickets. | ||
| They don't have quotas that they have to meet, so they don't harass people nearly as much. | ||
| And they actually patrol areas where there's crime, and that reduces crime. | ||
| Go figure. | ||
| And people are like, hey man, it sounds like what you're talking about is fascists, and what you're talking about is private police and security teams. | ||
| They're gonna be FEMA camps everywhere. | ||
| Or, they're like every other business, and they become accountable for their actions in a way where you fire them. | ||
| And you hire a new team. | ||
| You know, you just don't get locked into any ridiculous 30-year agreement with some police department. | ||
| Instead, like, have a security team that is beneficial to the community. | ||
| And people can maybe be a part of that security team that are in the community. | ||
| That would be crazy, huh? | ||
| Have actually people in the community patrolling the community and getting paid by the community to do that. | ||
| A lot of unemployed people that might make good cops and you could do all this shit in a way where it's profitable without having all these goddamn quotas that these people have to meet and these weird pressures that are on people that are in law enforcement. | ||
| The more we can decentralize the structures, you know, go from federal rules to state rules. | ||
| We've already seen the benefits of that in a state like Colorado, when they're able to make their own rules, you know? | ||
| That's great. | ||
| And then from there, if you go back even to where the towns can decide, you know, what the town should do. | ||
| And the smaller you get, the more opportunity you have for these great situations to develop. | ||
| And I think one of the paradigm cases, I read this book called The Fifth Sacred Thing, and it shows what happens when a utopian society clashes with the dystopian society. | ||
| It's a fiction novel. | ||
| But the really cool part is seeing what the utopian structure looks like. | ||
| Like, what a model of a totally cool place to live. | ||
| Would be, if everything from the family structure to the rules to how they decide things to how they defend themselves to how everything works, what they celebrate, what the rituals are amongst that. | ||
| And it's cool to be able to look at that and say, you know, that's possible. | ||
| We just have to allow, you know, people to gather and create their own situation if they want to. | ||
| It doesn't always have to go where the owner, it's all top-down and the owner fucks all the teenage girls. | ||
| Just because that's happened time and time again doesn't mean that it has to happen that way. | ||
| I think it's likely to happen less now that it's ever happened before, and I also don't think that it has to be centrally located, and I think that one of the things that we're experiencing with this exchange of information on the internet is you're finding a lot of like-minded people that are also trying to improve themselves. | ||
| They're also being super honest about who they are, who they were, trying to improve themselves, and they get inspiration from other people like you or like anybody else that's out there that is also on that same path of self-improvement and honesty. | ||
| And I think we find each other cyberly. | ||
| I think we don't even necessarily have to live on Uriah Faber's block. | ||
| I think what he's got is pretty sweet. | ||
| That's probably the ideal way to do it, but if it's not available, it's also happening whether you like it or not. | ||
| It's happening throughout the world. | ||
| I experience that at these shows, these stand-up shows. | ||
| You meet these people that are, dude, I lost 150 pounds. | ||
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Like, whoa. | |
| And you're like, Changed my life. | ||
| I started doing this. | ||
| I started doing that. | ||
| I eat kale. | ||
| I fucking... | ||
| I got a kettlebell in my back pocket. | ||
| You meet these fucking people and you realize there's a lot of folks out there that are also trying to... | ||
| They're trying to better themselves and they're trying to tune into that vibe. | ||
| And they're finding other people like that online that are trying to tune into that vibe of, we're all figuring this out, man. | ||
| No one's perfect. | ||
| No one's got a lock on this crazy life. | ||
| Spend less time pointing fingers at other people and shaming them for making a fat joke, and more time getting your own shit together, and we'll have a way better spot to hang out in. | ||
| We will all have a way better spot across the globe. | ||
| And I think that's happening, man. | ||
| People say I'm too optimistic. | ||
| But, man, I don't know. | ||
| I see it. | ||
| I see it in action. | ||
| I see it at these shows. | ||
| I see it all the time. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| What's happening that I see is you have your nuclear tribe, those 15 people you say that you could give them a million dollars and never even blink an eye. | ||
| You wouldn't even get nervous about it, you know? | ||
| And so when you start to develop these nuclear tribes and then getting gatherings together, You know, I think is another important thing. | ||
| Like say, hey, everybody, let's all meet for these five days and hang out and have fun. | ||
| And I think that'll be a cool aspect of consciously bringing into that. | ||
| But then you have like the mega tribe beyond the nuclear tribe. | ||
| And that's like all the people listening to the show where, you know, they're sharing a certain sentiment. | ||
| So it's not like you're total strangers when you meet. | ||
| There's a part of you that's already connected. | ||
| And you see that at Burning Man. | ||
| The mere fact that they're at Burning Man means that they subscribe to a certain amount of beliefs, generally. | ||
| Of course, there's probably some outliers. | ||
| But generally, you can meet someone there and know, like, all right, you're going to be cool with me. | ||
| You're not going to call me a dick. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| You got them in a bad patch of Burning Man, rogue community of dirty sandals. | ||
| But they would feel themselves, you know, they would feel weird in that because the whole collective would end up trying to force them out, like pus in the skin. | ||
| It would become a pimple that would eventually pop and bail the fuck out of there, you know? | ||
| The collective organism would reject it. | ||
| Yeah, and I think the things like Burning Man and the growth of that, which is so big, it gets sold out every year, like, in advance. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's like it's letting... | ||
| There's a giant community of people that also would like to go to Burning Man, but can't make it there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, they might have obligations or family or whatever they have to do, but they want to go there. | ||
| But certain... | ||
| Like, it's not Mecca, goddammit. | ||
| I don't have to fucking go around that square and touch it in a row. | ||
| It's a nowhere place in the desert. | ||
| It's literally nothing there. | ||
| Well, that's why... | ||
| It's a good spot to go because nobody fucks with you. | ||
| But really, it'd be way better if we did it in Hawaii, folks. | ||
| Let's fucking all go to Maui, man. | ||
| Maui's way better than the desert. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| You know, but they would get mad. | ||
| Dirty hippies. | ||
| You gotta wear dust masks when you're out there. | ||
| But I think the point you're making is take your 15 people and have your own little Burning Man where you all bring stuff. | ||
| You all share stuff. | ||
| You don't worry about who's paying for what. | ||
| Everybody's contributing. | ||
| You're all hanging out. | ||
| And experience that together in your own way. | ||
| You don't need to go to Black Rock, Nevada. | ||
| To do that. | ||
| You can go to, you know, the fucking camping somewhere out and just put up some tents and just hang, you know? | ||
| Yeah, but what Burning Man seems to be is like a bat signal. | ||
| Someone throws up and they all meet there. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's the super tribe meeting. | ||
| It's what the Aborigines did at Uluru at Ayers Rock. | ||
| You know, like every once in a while you go to this one fucking spot and it's five days of crazy dream time and didgeridoos echoing through the whole place and it's a celebration and then you go back to your smaller units. | ||
| Let your freak flag fly. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| How about we do this? | ||
| How about we... | ||
| I've been thinking about this, and you've been thinking about this too, about us getting a ranch in Texas. | ||
| If we got a ranch in Texas, okay? | ||
| If we got like a... | ||
| A hunting ranch in Texas that we also had yearly psychedelic rituals. | ||
| First of all, how quick would we get co-opted by the feds? | ||
| There's a fucking desk just got assigned to it right now. | ||
| McCarthy, you're on this! | ||
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Listen to this fucking Ustream channel, these fucking hippies! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You do that, like, you know, have like a virgin, a version, rather, of Burning Man at a ranch in Texas. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I mean, it's definitely feasible. | ||
| Screen people, though. | ||
| You've got to hire Anonymous to crawl up their house. | ||
| LAUGHTER Get those folks from the black internet. | ||
| Is that what it's called? | ||
| The dark internet? | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Well, if we just picked a spot, it doesn't even have to be a place that we own, so there's no liability. | ||
| That's a good move. | ||
| If we just pick a spot somewhere and we say, hey, all people who liked what we were just talking about, let's meet at this general area for these four days and then, you know, see how it goes. | ||
| But we've got to be somewhere where you can be high as fuck and not be in danger. | ||
| That's why the The desert's good, because there's nothing out there. | ||
| You can't go wandering off in the woods and get eaten by a bear. | ||
| Like, if we did it in Alberta, we started losing hippies. | ||
| We started getting bared out there. | ||
| Did you hear something? | ||
| Dude, it's a drum circle. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| I think one of them is called Envision, and it's in Costa Rica in this beautiful fucking place. | ||
| I mean, there's places around the world that we could pick that are cool with stuff. | ||
| I mean, Costa Rica is cool with ayahuasca, with iboga. | ||
| They're not going to fuck with you too much. | ||
| Traveling to other countries is fucking problematic. | ||
| If the shit hits the fan, you got to get back to the good old U.S. of A. with the quickness. | ||
| America! | ||
| As that plane is, fuck all that star-spangled banner shit, you'd be very happy to Pledge of Allegiance once that plane was leaving, and you hear guns go off behind your plane in Costa Rica. | ||
| You realize, right as the insurgency takes over the new government, Take care. | ||
| Good luck with the ayahuasca retreat. | ||
| I'm gonna go to Miami for a weekend and drink on the beach. | ||
| There's good and bad and all this stuff, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I think people are getting it together, though. | ||
| I really do. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I feel it. | ||
| I might be delusional. | ||
| But I think at least the people that I'm in contact with, They're getting it and they're there. | ||
| I feel like they're spreading and when I say getting it or you think you get it what I mean by that is this idea of Everybody trying to improve themselves and people just kind of being cool with each other. | ||
| Yeah, and people being honest about All their attributes, the positives, the negatives, all that stuff. | ||
| And working it out together, man. | ||
| And part of getting it is knowing that you know nothing, really. | ||
| It's just accepting the fact that we know incrementally less nothing, and sometimes maybe even more nothing, because the expanse of what is possible to know increases. | ||
| And just understanding that we're just trying to figure it out to the best fucking way that we can. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| When I was young and stupid, I was very insecure about things I didn't know. | ||
| I wanted to pretend I knew things that I didn't know. | ||
| Like, yeah, I know that. | ||
| Somebody would bring up something and be like, I know that. | ||
| But I felt like somehow or another there's some weakness in saying, like, what is that? | ||
| You know? | ||
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| Which is like, I love to do that now. | ||
| Like, my favorite thing to do, like, I don't need to know. | ||
| First of all, now I'm smart enough, or at least I've accumulated enough information to know. | ||
| You can't know everything. | ||
| Like, that's why I love when I talk to someone like Brian Cox, who's this genius fucking scientist dude who works at the Large Hadron Collider and teaches fucking science to the whole world. | ||
| If you ask him something he doesn't know, he goes, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| Like, oh great. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| That's fucking giant. | ||
| That's important because one of the things that plagues human beings in their development is this lack of admitting to failure, this lack of admitting to not knowing something, this fear of your own ignorance and denial of it to the point where you're posturing in front of other people. | ||
| That's all eliminated by pot cookies. | ||
| You can get rid of all that shit. | ||
| Well, having something to defend because, again, it's this illusion of vulnerability. | ||
| I need to defend these beliefs because if I don't have them, what am I? What am I without being right? | ||
| Do I love myself if I'm not the smartest person in the room? | ||
| Well, you got to let all that shit go. | ||
| You know, and you gotta build your foundation on the rocks instead of these sandcastles, because that'll never fulfill you. | ||
| If driving around in a certain car makes you feel good, or if being right and belittling people on the internet makes you feel good, it'll never actually work long-term to make you feel good. | ||
| It'll be this hole that the more you throw in it, the bigger the hole gets. | ||
| You know, you gotta find your own internal ways to feel that good and to feel that way. | ||
| Everything else is just a sidetrack that's taking you backwards. | ||
| Yeah, and it goes back to what we were talking about where people just automatically look to get in disagreements with people if they feel that they're on a different team, you know? | ||
| People that are on a different idea. | ||
| I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles used to beat the fuck out of people so bad at their games. | ||
| Like, they broke some guy's leg in a fucking stairwell because he was a fan of the other team. | ||
| Like, that type, I mean, that's not that tribal issue, you know, you're talking about like preying on the worst aspects of tribalism. | ||
| That's something that needs to be addressed in schools. | ||
| We need to explain. | ||
| These are why you have these weird instincts to be in teams and to form gangs. | ||
| Because you really used to have to do that to stay alive. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But now we don't. | ||
| We don't have to do that shit anymore. | ||
| No. | ||
| Alright, fuckers. | ||
| We've reached the end. | ||
| This is Three Hours of Love with Aubrey Marcus and Joe Rogan. | ||
| We have nothing more to tell you. | ||
| We hope you enjoyed this. | ||
| We have an On It podcast that you can listen to. | ||
| Do you have your own podcast as well, too? | ||
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I do, yeah. | |
| You have the Warrior Poet Project, and you have the On It podcast, which are separate, completely separate. | ||
| I go a little deeper into the kind of spiritual, psychedelic realms on my own. | ||
| The woo. | ||
| And then Onnit is about just improving human performance, human optimization. | ||
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| Onnit.com. | ||
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| State-of-the-art, super dope, full cryotherapy equipment in the fucking house. | ||
| Tell people about that and how do they get to that. | ||
| And I actually work there. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| People come and they're like, Aubrey, you're here. | ||
| Well, no shit, I'm here. | ||
| I work. | ||
| You know, so if you go by, say hello. | ||
| You know, I'll be there. | ||
| I'll be happy to say hello to you. | ||
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| We'll see you guys next week. | ||
| Lots of funny guests coming up next week. | ||
| And until then, much love. | ||
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