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Jan. 13, 2015 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #600 - Ari Shaffir
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ari shaffir
01:04:51
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joe rogan
01:18:22
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brian redban
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joe rogan
I'm ready, Jimmy.
unidentified
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
joe rogan
Powerful Ari Shafir and his three-dimensional t-shirt.
It says Do Mushrooms on it.
And you can get this at AriTheGreat.com.
ari shaffir
That's my tour this year.
It's the Do Mushrooms tour.
joe rogan
It's a good tour.
It's a good name.
It's a good message.
It's a good thing you're doing.
You're doing the Lord's work.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I'm trying to get the word out for the Lord's product.
joe rogan
You're doing the Lord's work.
If there's anyone who's ever been doing the Lord's work, it's the man who invented Shroomfest.
How many people, by the way, worldwide participate in Shroomfest every year?
I heard it was over a billion.
Is that true, Mr. Shafir?
ari shaffir
That's the last stats I saw, were over a billion.
joe rogan
Over a billion.
Really, we're doing fairly well in that regard.
ari shaffir
God, it's like, how many billions are there?
Definitely, that's not most of them, but we're getting there.
joe rogan
There's 7 billion people, and out of the 7 billion people on Earth, 1 billion every year participate in Shroomfest.
ari shaffir
You know, this year, it's August 29th, 30th, and 31st.
joe rogan
Is it really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you give it three days?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
joe rogan
What's ideally for the average shroomer?
How many trips do they do in those three days?
ari shaffir
Oh, one.
joe rogan
Just one?
ari shaffir
Yeah, find a time to do it.
joe rogan
Oh, just one?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Only one?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't like to do, like, multiple on a weekend?
ari shaffir
I have done that.
This last Shroom Fest, we just kept taking them.
Just three days, just in the cabin, just fucking going.
joe rogan
Did you ever worry about, like, being that dude from Pink Floyd that never comes back?
ari shaffir
No, I stopped worrying about that.
joe rogan
You stopped worrying?
ari shaffir
There's only like barely any guys I've ever seen like that.
joe rogan
Barely any?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I don't know if it's from that or just mild schizophrenia.
joe rogan
There's always that, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The real problem is like, what if you have mental illness plus psychedelics?
If you're just a totally normal person, you have normal balance levels of whatever hormones in your head, but then you take psychedelics.
ari shaffir
That's the only thing.
If you're prone to that, to schizophrenia, that's the only time I'd be like, then don't.
If you have it in your family, maybe don't.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would say if reality is at all slippery, just hold off on that.
ari shaffir
If you barely hold on, it's like, I'm real.
joe rogan
Get yourself a good foundation.
But then there's the other problem.
If you take a lot of the drugs that people take, like even antidepressants, you're not supposed to ever take mushrooms when you're taking those.
ari shaffir
Nope, not true.
There's different kinds of antidepressants.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Ask your doctor.
I asked mine.
unidentified
Ah, yeah.
joe rogan
Ask your doctor.
I ask mine.
With Ari Shafir.
ari shaffir
Doctors are here for you.
Just tell them what you're doing.
And then they'll help you medically through that.
So I asked them about, hey, I heard this thing about MOAI inhibitors.
And SSRI inhibitors.
So I'm like, I heard mushrooms counteract badly with those.
And he goes, and I don't know which one's which.
But he goes, no, that's that one.
You're taking this type of antidepressant medication.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
ari shaffir
So it wouldn't interfere at all.
joe rogan
Okay.
So you really should ask your doctor and find out whether or not it's an issue.
ari shaffir
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
So with you, it was zero issue at all?
ari shaffir
Yeah, he goes, no.
Oh, that's great.
Sometimes they tell you not to take antibiotics and you have to say why.
And they go, because if the antibiotics won't work anymore, then I won't drink.
But if it's just that it's going to make drinking awesome, then I'm going to drink.
joe rogan
Well, I've heard people that are talking about taking MAOIs, monoamine oxidase inhibitors, and taking those with anything dimethyltryptamine-based, whether it's ayahuasca or DMT or anything along those lines, and it becomes really potent to the point where it's dangerously potent.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I think chemical MAOR... I'm saying it fucked up.
MAOIs.
Yeah.
Monoamine oxidase inhibitors.
ari shaffir
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
The pharmaceutical versions of it are extremely strong.
They're really strong.
And you're not supposed to take anything...
DMT-based with them.
Because that's the whole basis of ayahuasca is a natural MAOI inhibitor, which is called harmine, mixed in with the leaves that have the DMT. That's why you can take it in through drinking it.
ari shaffir
Sometimes those things that flood your brains with...
It's almost like the inhibitor is shut off.
So it floods your brains.
You get super happy, like XLC or some things like that.
And then...
That all drops out, and then you're like, oh, I need...
unidentified
Right.
ari shaffir
Your body sort of stops producing it after a while.
joe rogan
Dopamine, depletion, and shit like that.
Yeah.
I mean, Tim Ferriss has this statement or this saying, which is a really good saying, is that there are no biological free lunches.
You know, and that everything has a price.
You drink coffee, then you crash.
You know, you take speed, then you come down.
You know, you drink alcohol, you feel great, then you're hungover.
It's like, in order to achieve these hyper-natural states, there's some sort of consequence.
ari shaffir
It's vacuum.
Vacuums can't exist, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a pull and a push and there's something going on every time you do something that fucks with your consciousness.
It's just the idea of finding what does the least amount of damage and the most amount of benefit.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's fun.
Exactly.
I'm gonna get fucked up.
What's it gonna be on?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Should I go meth or should I pull it back?
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of people that are like, I am not going through this fucking thing sober.
ari shaffir
Oh, no.
Why would you?
joe rogan
Not doing it.
unidentified
Not interested.
ari shaffir
Live with all that at all times.
joe rogan
Not doing it.
ari shaffir
Thank you, sir.
You have met my mother and father-in-law?
No, thank you.
I will be fucked up for this.
joe rogan
This is not a ride that you should take seriously.
This is a ride.
You should be sober only when necessary.
Only when, like...
Are you doing surgery?
Yeah, you should be sober.
Are you going to Disneyland?
Why are you sober?
ari shaffir
Yeah, why sober for this?
What's wrong with you?
joe rogan
Are you going to somehow or another make a terrible decision when you're on the teapots?
ari shaffir
I went...
Yeah, what are you doing?
joe rogan
You're spinning around the teacups, those things that you spin around.
ari shaffir
So they don't serve alcohol at Disneyland, huh?
joe rogan
Well, they have alcohol at California Adventure.
ari shaffir
Oh, and they have the outside place with all the bars.
joe rogan
Yeah, which is like downtown Disney.
They have alcohol there.
Like regular restaurants.
It's not like Mormon alcohol where it's like 2% beer.
ari shaffir
Technically alcohol.
joe rogan
It's real alcohol.
They have real alcohol.
But inside Disneyland, there's apparently only one place where you can get alcohol.
And it's this place that's above Pirates of the Caribbean.
And you have to pay some insane amount of yearly money.
ari shaffir
To be able to go there?
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to spend a shitload of money.
It costs like $25,000 to join or something.
ari shaffir
What?
To be a member?
joe rogan
Yeah, what is that?
unidentified
It's more than that.
joe rogan
What is that shit called?
unidentified
Club 33 or something like that?
joe rogan
Yeah, something along those lines.
unidentified
It's like CEOs of companies...
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Didn't Dice have Club 43 in his basement or something?
And he wouldn't tell anybody why he called it that?
Maybe that's what it is.
Maybe I finally figured it out.
joe rogan
Hmm.
I don't remember.
ari shaffir
You gotta know what it is.
joe rogan
It's 18 more!
unidentified
Oh!
Like your big fat fucking ass!
joe rogan
Oh!
ari shaffir
Dude, you know what I was talking about?
Your Diaz impression is one of the best around.
I forgot about it.
We used to have Diaz off, like the Brea Improv.
These fucking SoCal Mexican comics thought they had great Diaz.
And you're like, let's do it.
At the end of your headliner set.
Do you remember that?
joe rogan
Yes.
But that guy beat me.
He beat me.
His Diaz was better.
His mannerisms were awesome.
Silent Bob, he got me.
My voice might have been a little bit better, a little bit more exact.
unidentified
He also did the hand thing where it was like this weird...
joe rogan
Well, he was also, yeah, he was just in the groove.
He nailed it.
ari shaffir
The hand thing, the coke hand.
unidentified
The coke hand.
ari shaffir
When you bring people up to the open mic, he goes, next up.
And he's just like doing that open shut, open shut.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Next up what?
joe rogan
Well, he's also just having fun.
ari shaffir
Oh, this guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the Joey Diaz mannerisms.
He had the mannerisms down.
I had a voice.
My voice was probably a little bit better than his, but he overwhelmed me with his mannerisms.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He took the title.
What am I going to say?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I forgot who won.
I really forgot who won.
joe rogan
Yeah, he beat me.
I gave it to him.
I said he won.
I mean, I gave it up.
I said, that's better.
His is better.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
You know stuff he says, though, that sounds like stuff he would say.
I guess that guy did, too.
joe rogan
Well, maybe.
unidentified
He deserves to win.
joe rogan
I forgot about that.
Joey's the greatest guy that's ever walked the face of the planet.
unidentified
Are these 3D glasses kind of tripping around a little?
joe rogan
A little.
unidentified
You have a lot behind you, Joe, so it's...
A little.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the lava lamp is fucking weird.
joe rogan
The reason why we're wearing these shirts, Ari Shaffir has these 3D... Why we're wearing these shirts.
Why we're wearing these goggles.
These glasses.
These fucking...
Ridiculous paper glasses we're wearing.
Ari has these new t-shirts, and if you wear these glasses, these t-shirts look three-dimensional.
It's weird that no one's ever figured out a way to make 3D work without glasses.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
They have.
joe rogan
But you go to the movies, you always have glasses.
ari shaffir
Yeah, just make the fucking screen.
A 3D movie for all time.
3D movie screen.
joe rogan
Yeah, but even those 3D screens, you have to wear glasses.
ari shaffir
Yeah, no, bullshit.
Shouldn't have to.
unidentified
Like the Nintendo...
ari shaffir
I'm sorry, we live in a horrible...
unidentified
Bullshit!
ari shaffir
Our lives are worth in Ethiopia.
brian redban
The Nintendo 3DS is an example of a small screen that you don't need glasses, and they do have small monitors that...
joe rogan
How good is it?
Have you used it?
unidentified
It's getting there.
ari shaffir
Is it better than the Game Boy graphics?
joe rogan
It's just Game Boy by 3D. Okay, like when you go to see like top level 3D, like Avatar.
ari shaffir
Avatar was the best.
Who do I see that with?
At the fucking, that one place in the valley.
joe rogan
Like that opening scene where the dude is floating around, where they're all in that 3D floating around space.
Remember when they're coming out of their pods?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he's floating.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, whoa.
It was like the greatest 3D of all time.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you're like, wow.
And the islands, the floating islands were like, what the fuck?
The floating islands.
I forgot about that.
joe rogan
You can't do that without glasses, right?
unidentified
Not to that point yet.
joe rogan
Not to that point.
brian redban
I mean, it's still kind of small screens and not as good.
unidentified
Last I checked.
joe rogan
Isn't it interesting that somebody even figured out how to do that?
ari shaffir
How to do it.
Yeah, separate the red and the blue.
joe rogan
Fuck!
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
You figured out how to make people look like they're floating in front of you.
joe rogan
Give this extra dimensional aspect to what you're watching.
ari shaffir
I remember the olden days when they had those spaceship movie 3Ds.
Like when I was like a young teenager, like 14, 12, something like that.
And the ships would come over you and you'd be like, what the fuck?
You'd have to lean back to avoid it.
unidentified
I want that 3D. None of that bullshit they give you now.
ari shaffir
Avatar was great.
Everything else is garbage.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if life was 3D? It is.
ari shaffir
That's what it is.
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
It's not 3D like that.
ari shaffir
No, not like that.
joe rogan
It's not 3D like that.
That's 3D in this really weird, freaky way where you see a car accident a mile away and all of a sudden it's in your face.
unidentified
A couple of good 3D movies.
ari shaffir
That slow motion movie was good in 3D? What movie was that?
It was like the new Judge Dredd or something.
unidentified
Sin City?
ari shaffir
No, it was like super slow motion.
They gave people the drug they were giving out was slow-mo.
So they give them slow-mo, then dump them off this fucking giant roof, and they die in like an hour and a half.
unidentified
Oh, God.
Take them to fall.
Slow-mo.
ari shaffir
And then Jackass 3D. That and Avatar, those are the only three movies that have ever like, fuck yeah, 3D here works.
joe rogan
Avatar was insane.
unidentified
Avatar was insane.
joe rogan
When they were flying, when they were on those dragons flying around, and it was in 3D, you're like, wow.
It was like your mouth is open.
God, it's incredible.
Yeah.
It's glorious.
unidentified
Was Godzilla good in 3D? I never saw Godzilla.
ari shaffir
All these movies do five at the beginning and three at the end.
That's all they do.
And they give you garbage up front.
Recycle this when you're done with it.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
I'm breaking it right in front of them.
unidentified
Do it.
ari shaffir
So they know.
That's what I do now.
I'm like, let John Lowe's know.
This isn't acceptable anymore.
joe rogan
This movie's bad.
ari shaffir
You can't tell us it's 3D as we're going in saying it's going to be at 450. And then fucking nothing.
Five at the beginning, three at the end.
That's all they give you.
joe rogan
Five at the beginning, three at the end.
ari shaffir
Five minutes at the beginning of 3D and then the end, so you go on your way out.
They'll throw some garbage at you.
Like, oh, remember it's 3D? No 3D the whole way.
You forget it because you watched the movie.
unidentified
Not even like atmosphere 3D? Just where it feels like depth?
ari shaffir
Nothing.
It's stupid.
They're just robbing you.
unidentified
It was a little...
ari shaffir
They added it later.
joe rogan
There was a little thing with the canyons and the big bug and the electrical nuclear power supply.
There was a few moments with the 3D. The fucking falling of cranes.
ari shaffir
Where?
In what?
Godzilla?
joe rogan
Godzilla.
Yeah.
You know what the problem with Godzilla was?
Spoiler alert!
unidentified
Spoiler!
joe rogan
If you've never seen Godzilla, shut your car off on the highway.
ari shaffir
Brian, what don't you know about Godzilla?
It's a fucking Godzilla.
joe rogan
Shut the power off on your stereo on your car.
ari shaffir
Spoiler alert King Kong for somebody.
joe rogan
Here's the spoiler alert.
King Kong loses in every movie.
ari shaffir
Every movie.
joe rogan
Every movie.
He never wins.
unidentified
He never fucking wins.
ari shaffir
They should do a Fight Club type King Kong where he just fucking starts dominating, gets right off the statue of whatever he's on, the Empire State Building, and just goes and fucking smashes him shit.
joe rogan
That's what's up.
ari shaffir
Goes underground.
joe rogan
Do you really think our puny bullets can penetrate the fucking Great Kong?
unidentified
Did Godzilla ever fight King Kong?
No.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, but it doesn't make any sense.
Well, they had to change the sizes.
ari shaffir
Yeah, Godzilla was so much bigger.
joe rogan
Yeah, King Kong was only 50 feet tall.
Godzilla was 500 feet tall.
That's fucking retarded.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but King Kong has black people's strength, so that overwhelms the bigger Asian.
joe rogan
How dare you?
ari shaffir
Who would you think of fighting?
A big Asian or a little black guy?
joe rogan
He's not an Asian, and he's not a black person.
He's a gorilla, and that's a lizard.
unidentified
Fuck you!
joe rogan
Oh my god.
I just became a social justice warrior.
I give in.
ari shaffir
You fought for the right of freedom.
joe rogan
I'm on the wrong side.
I realize.
Being friends with you, Shafir, I'm on the wrong side.
Black people's strength, King Kong.
That's not a person.
It's a fucking gorilla.
ari shaffir
How else do you justify that he fought even in that fight?
joe rogan
Well, because it was a fucking Japanese production, it didn't make any sense.
King Kong didn't even look like King Kong.
If you had that King Kong and the real King Kong in a lineup, people would really be able to distinguish between the two of them.
They'd be like, that is not the guy that fucked me.
It's the guy on the right, the little short dude, the 50-foot guy.
I don't know that 500-foot tall dude.
Who the fuck is he?
ari shaffir
Where did he come from?
joe rogan
He's ten times bigger than that other dude I know.
ari shaffir
Couldn't he just swim across the ocean?
joe rogan
That guy's way bigger than the guy I know.
Get the fuck out of here.
ari shaffir
He was as big as Godzilla.
Did he get hit with radiation or anything?
joe rogan
No explanation whatsoever.
Just they want you to be stupid because it's 1962 or whatever the fuck it was when they made that movie.
There was no thinking about it.
unidentified
I'm looking at a picture right now.
It's so hilarious of King Kong versus Godzilla.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're fighting over a giant.
unidentified
Because King Kong looks just like...
It looks ridiculous.
joe rogan
Oh, I've watched them, dude.
When I was a kid, I fucking loved King Kong.
I loved King Kong, and my cousin Mike loved Godzilla.
We even got into fisticuffs at one juncture.
ari shaffir
No way.
Over what?
What was better?
joe rogan
Over King Kong versus Godzilla.
ari shaffir
Who would win?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That was before they had that movie?
Or you both agreed that movie wasn't proof?
unidentified
Yeah, we were both retarded.
joe rogan
We were both six or whatever the fuck we were.
Five?
Probably five.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we were arguing, going knuckles up over who would win.
Godzilla versus King Kong.
We were unsupervised children.
ari shaffir
We fought them over it?
joe rogan
We totally fought.
God.
ari shaffir
That's why.
unidentified
I was always on Godzilla's side.
I was always on Godzilla's side.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
ari shaffir
When I moved to New York, I finally realized any sort of racism, any fear-based racism, like I'm afraid of black people, just became, oh, I'm just afraid of the youth.
Anyone young, they're just rowdy and pushier.
They just shove...
They're more likely to shove and say something.
Like, settle down, young man.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were talking about that in the previous podcast.
We were talking about the scariest thing.
My friend Eric Crisp of Sugar Tree Cues.
I think you met him before.
ari shaffir
Eric Crisp, maybe.
What city?
joe rogan
He's a cue maker.
ari shaffir
What city?
joe rogan
He lives in New Mexico.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
He said that teenage boys are the scariest thing on earth.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
They don't know limits.
joe rogan
And they're getting strong.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're like real cocky.
ari shaffir
They're just coming into their bodies overwhelmed with like testosterone.
Rage!
joe rogan
And a lot of their versions of the world are based on movies.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I'll fuck you up.
Come to me that way.
I'll die for that.
Really?
17-year-old?
I think you will.
joe rogan
They say shit that makes you realize like, oh, you're just a child.
You're just a little boy who's like six feet tall.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
They don't know anything.
joe rogan
You're 16 years old and you're really strong, but you're out there running through the world like a big baby almost.
You know?
ari shaffir
Unsupervised baby.
joe rogan
No, big, strong, unsupervised baby who's just learning.
America's the best.
That's why.
ari shaffir
Fucking fight.
joe rogan
It's because America's the best, right?
America's the best.
ari shaffir
This one guy said it wasn't.
I fucking beat the shit out of him.
joe rogan
That bitch swallowed his teeth.
ari shaffir
He'll learn.
Like, no, well, actually he had a point that he was trying to make.
No, fuck him.
unidentified
No.
ari shaffir
You didn't even hear his point out.
joe rogan
America.
Yeah.
That's the world we live in, Ari Shafir.
ari shaffir
Golly.
joe rogan
It's tough.
Tough to get it together.
It's a goddamn mad race.
We're all dealing with a big spreadsheet of genetics that was sort of formulated back when people were running.
ari shaffir
Avoid them like barking dogs.
You gotta just avoid them.
It's hard.
joe rogan
It's in people's DNA, Ari.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're trapped in some 10,000-year-old shit.
ari shaffir
Fight, murder, and rape.
joe rogan
And drug ourselves.
Cold syrup.
Did you ever get a hold of the real NyQuil?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
You never got a hold of the real NyQuil?
You never took it?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
ari shaffir
Did it really fuck you up?
joe rogan
Oh, man.
I remember, look, when I was on news radio, like in the late 90s, I'd never done any drugs.
I didn't do anything.
I would occasionally have a beer.
ari shaffir
I don't know why he says that.
Oh, yeah.
You're like, guys, pot.
It's not the way to the fucking top.
joe rogan
I thought it made you lazy.
unidentified
For real.
joe rogan
No bullshit.
But this was totally...
ari shaffir
So fun when you learn new things.
You're like, I was wrong.
Let's go the other way.
Because I was wrong.
joe rogan
I was so wrong.
ari shaffir
That's what I said about when I was still a virgin in college.
I'm like, guys, it's the same as masturbating.
Sorry, it's not.
I'm like, it's the same.
You orgasm.
That's the same.
It feels the same.
And they're like, man, so wrong.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
ari shaffir
It feels considerably better.
joe rogan
What was I saying?
unidentified
I used to like the purple stuff.
ari shaffir
No, no, no.
joe rogan
No, don't make sense.
unidentified
Robitussin.
joe rogan
Oh, Robitussin.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
No, it wasn't even Robitussin.
It was that other stuff.
unidentified
NyQuil.
joe rogan
NyQuil.
The real NyQuil.
The real NyQuil with codeine.
So I wasn't doing anything.
Occasionally I would drink, but even then I would feel guilty.
Very, very, very rarely would try weed.
ari shaffir
You hung out in pool all the time?
You never drank?
joe rogan
Not much.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
I didn't really drink.
I was trying to be healthy.
You know, that was like my thing.
ari shaffir
You were a fighter, too.
You were all in shape.
joe rogan
I was just trying to be healthy.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
I was just trying to not be a loser.
unidentified
Um...
ari shaffir
I love how you don't even know what it is to be a loser, but you're like, don't we just not be that?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's enough to scare off the wolves.
ari shaffir
So you've never done drugs or alcohol, pretty much.
Yeah, but I got sick.
And now somebody gave...
Okay.
joe rogan
I got sick, and I just felt like total shit, man.
I was just...
I got hit with the flu or whatever the fuck it was.
So I took some NyQuil, and I felt so good.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
What was that relaxing?
joe rogan
I felt so good.
It was codeine, man.
Whatever it's said to take, I took more.
You know, if it's said to take, like, if you weigh, like, up to 170 pounds, I'm like, yeah, we're about 190 pounds.
And I probably weighed like 169. I was lean, son.
I didn't have much fatty tissue.
ari shaffir
I took a full dose.
You took a ladle?
joe rogan
This NyQuil fucked me up.
And I was deep in this pillow, this down pillow.
And I felt so loved.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
I felt so loved.
I felt like the universe was just rubbing me with love.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
I felt soaked.
ari shaffir
What was in it?
What's in that?
joe rogan
Codeine.
Codeine, man.
ari shaffir
What's codeine?
What drug is codeine?
joe rogan
It's a good one.
ari shaffir
That's its own drug?
That's the drug?
unidentified
It's what you used to take when you were a kid growing up.
You would take one thing and you'd do it right before you go to bed.
Oh, right.
ari shaffir
But where can I find that now?
unidentified
You can still get it.
ari shaffir
In what?
unidentified
You gotta go to your doctor's office, coughing up a fake storm.
If you got bronchitis, you can get it.
joe rogan
You just need to start coughing, rough your throat up a little bit.
ari shaffir
And how do they give it to you?
A pill form or something?
joe rogan
Like, if you're gonna turn your girlfriend into the cops...
ari shaffir
Drink it.
joe rogan
If you're gonna turn your girlfriend into the cops for domestic abuse, you'd punch yourself in the face a few times and call the police.
That's what you gotta do.
To get the codeine, you gotta raspy up your throat, man.
You gotta fuck it up.
You gotta cough a lot.
And they go, this poor gentleman needs some codeine.
ari shaffir
It's usually way worse than this.
unidentified
I'm braved out because of this doctor appointment.
joe rogan
I'm barely breathing.
And they hook you up with that.
ari shaffir
I got prescribed for wisdom teeth out.
And my doctor, both of them have done a really good job.
So I was not really worried about this one.
He's like, if you need these, there's Vicodins.
He goes, if you don't need them, I'm sure you can find maybe somebody.
I don't know.
I'm a comedian.
I have multiple people telling me to tough it out.
joe rogan
Let's not say he said that.
Let's say he allegedly said that.
Let's say that.
Someone could track your dental records.
ari shaffir
Oh, God.
It's like my friends did love it, though.
They're like, you don't use those?
I'm like, never been into them.
I'm like, well, you might be.
brian redban
That stuff you're talking about is what all the celebrity kids mix with Red Bull and shit like that, and they drink it as a drink.
unidentified
It's called purple drink and stuff.
And that's all the beavers and stuff that get caught with the bottles of that.
joe rogan
What are they drinking?
What's the mixture?
unidentified
Syrup.
Syrup.
joe rogan
So that's what they're drinking.
Codeine?
unidentified
Codeine.
brian redban
It's usually mixed with Mountain Dew or something like that.
joe rogan
Jolly Ranchers.
unidentified
Jolly Ranchers.
joe rogan
This is a comedian.
I'm not gonna name names.
Don't you name names either, you fuck.
This is a comedian that used to have a real problem with NyQuil.
And club owners would have to buy him containers of NyQuil.
And bring them to him.
No way!
Yeah.
And he would drink them.
Like, more than one in a night.
ari shaffir
I would have said Duncan until he said club owners had to bring them.
Duncan was our first thing.
I can see him having a problem with NyQuil.
joe rogan
It was a long time ago.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It was a long time ago.
And that's why.
ari shaffir
They had to bring it for him.
joe rogan
Fault in this guy.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's pretty cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you know, he's a good comic.
ari shaffir
Did he perform well on it?
joe rogan
He's very good.
I don't know.
I don't think he was on it when I was on stage.
I think it's one of those things where, you know, you want to, like, fight the demons on into the night, you need some sort of chemical protection.
Take the codeine and rally against smog.
ari shaffir
Did you see that yet?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, I did.
The moment it came out, I was first in line.
ari shaffir
Oh, nice.
unidentified
What is that?
Hobbit?
ari shaffir
Fucking Hobbit, man.
joe rogan
I love those movies, man.
ari shaffir
The dragons in those Hobbits were such cool dragons.
joe rogan
Oh, they're the best.
I rooted for him.
Fucking elves.
ari shaffir
You always root for your elves.
joe rogan
Elves are douchebags.
ari shaffir
Quit singing songs all the time, idiot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Fucking good fight.
joe rogan
You guys are way too happy with yourself.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, you're really good with a bone arrow.
ari shaffir
We're lovely.
We're all lovely.
joe rogan
That fucking dragon was so dope.
The CGI they can do together.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
I don't know how many people are working together on that thing, but the CGI that they were able to concoct, what they're able to do- Did it look really good?
Oh my god!
It's so good.
It looks like it's a real thing, and there's another real thing that it's interacting with.
The CGI is so good, especially with dragons, because dragons aren't real.
So you don't know what they really look like.
unidentified
Oh, right.
ari shaffir
You can't use video in the wild.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But if you look at, like, a dog, like, when they CGI dogs, it just looks slightly goofy.
There's just a slight goofiness to it.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They haven't totally overcome yet.
But they've overcome it with dragons.
And also with dinosaurs.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they don't move quite right.
It's like, what are you doing with your fucking...
Why are you walking like that, dogs?
joe rogan
We don't know.
I think hair is a big one.
I think hair is tough to reproduce.
I think they have a real hard time, like, making, like, accurate-looking ripples and stuff like that.
Because it's all done with programs and they have to use all these like various technologies to figure out how to fucking shade things correctly and use the proper textures and it's like it's really complex.
ari shaffir
Hair moves too slowly?
Doesn't like jitter like it does in the wind like normal?
joe rogan
Well, you know, Clay Guida couldn't be in the early UFC games because he wouldn't cut his hair.
ari shaffir
Couldn't get his hair down.
joe rogan
So Clay Guida, his hair was so important to him that he chose to not be in the early UFC games.
ari shaffir
Instead of cut it.
joe rogan
Yeah, because he's like, I mean, I don't know if anybody ever...
ari shaffir
Pull that hair and just yank it down during a fight?
joe rogan
You're not allowed to.
ari shaffir
You're not allowed?
joe rogan
You used to be able to do that.
In fact, Hoyce Gracie used Kimo's hair like it was a really important part of him winning that fight.
He was beating the shit out of him from his back and then he set up an arm bar.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
But Hoist was holding on to his ponytail.
Like, he had a grip on the back of his head.
Like, it's ridiculous to give someone the ability to hold on to the back of your hair if that's, like, a part of fighting.
Eric Paulson, he's another guy who got in a bad situation because the guy was grabbing his hair and punched him in the head.
Like, in real life, like, oh, you can't have hair like this.
ari shaffir
It's bad for a fight.
It's easier to grab onto.
joe rogan
You have a handle on your head, son.
It's like my bit about the duck hunting guys, the Duck Dynasty guys and their beard.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's easier to hold onto.
joe rogan
Yeah, if someone wants to fuck your face, that's a goddamn handle right there.
ari shaffir
That's the best way to do it.
joe rogan
This is the best way.
You gave them a handle to hold onto your mouth.
What are you trying to do?
What are you trying to do?
ari shaffir
You're leaving it open for me.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they can do it with dinosaurs and they can do it with dragons.
ari shaffir
Jurassic Park got it great.
Jurassic Park had it great.
The first Jurassic Park.
unidentified
Fuck.
ari shaffir
You can't watch it on TV now.
You can't watch it on TV because it looks terrible.
On the screen, that was awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw the new trailer.
It looks amazing.
unidentified
Why would they go back there ever?
ari shaffir
Why would they keep going back?
Fucking ten years later, that's it?
joe rogan
Is that what it is though?
Or is it a total reboot?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I feel like it's a reboot, like Spider-Man.
Like they're rebooting it.
unidentified
They're going back.
They're going back?
You can see it on the...
There's like a map.
You can see the quarantine zone.
Like you're not supposed to go here.
Oh, right.
joe rogan
They fixed the rest of the shit.
Okay.
unidentified
I wish we could play that.
ari shaffir
We could play it on this TV. The trailer?
joe rogan
Yeah, play it on this TV so we could watch it.
unidentified
The trailer?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, I hope it's in 3D because then we'll already be ready.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I don't think it will.
ari shaffir
It definitely will not be.
joe rogan
We're going to probably go blind by the end of the show.
unidentified
Probably.
joe rogan
Keep these fucking glasses on.
Does anybody feel uncomfortable or is it just me?
unidentified
It's a little bit uncomfortable.
ari shaffir
Maybe we should go without the glasses.
joe rogan
So they're going back.
Can we get some volume?
So we'll listen to this?
ari shaffir
Oh, Tweety Birds over my head.
Get out of here.
joe rogan
Oh, you have Tweety Birds.
Who put Tweety Birds over his head?
unidentified
Birds?
joe rogan
That's rude.
unidentified
If someone chases you, run.
joe rogan
If someone chases you or something...
ari shaffir
Ten years ago, they were killing people.
Don't joke about it.
unidentified
Well...
joe rogan
We joke about Hiroshima.
unidentified
It's true.
joe rogan
So what we're watching, people that are listening at home, is a super dope yacht headed towards an island that is populated by...
ari shaffir
And this little fucking kid pushes it up front so he can just see.
Not everyone else is watching?
joe rogan
Where's your dad, fuckface?
ari shaffir
Push it up front?
Get out of here.
joe rogan
Learn some manners, you little cunt.
You white privileged little cis privilege.
unidentified
White privilege!
joe rogan
White privilege!
Cisgendered.
unidentified
Now they're in some balls.
joe rogan
Little suppressive asshole.
Now they're in these weird trains and pods.
And they're just casually strolling around dinosaurs.
unidentified
And then it's zero.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a shark suspended.
And an impossibly huge dinosaur comes out of the water, eats the shark.
ari shaffir
Wow.
unidentified
And ruins everyone's iPhones.
joe rogan
And you know what I realized when I look at that?
You gotta feed that fucker a lot of sharks.
How many sharks does that thing need to eat today?
ari shaffir
A lot, probably.
joe rogan
It's way bigger than the shark.
I doubt they planned this out.
ari shaffir
That's some science shit.
So many super hot scientists for no reason.
Unbelievable.
joe rogan
Super hot with bangs.
unidentified
Who is that broad?
Probably not a good idea.
joe rogan
She's hot as fuck.
That guy's hot as fuck too.
ari shaffir
I would just wish this would turn into Guardians of the Galaxy 2. I haven't seen the first one yet.
Because you're an idiot.
joe rogan
Oh, how dare you.
ari shaffir
It's a good movie.
joe rogan
There's a handsome bastard right there.
Also, Deer Hunter.
Look how pretty that girl is.
ari shaffir
Evacuate the island.
joe rogan
Would you be willing to give it all up, the whole Hollywood dream, just to be in her arms for the rest of your life in harmony?
Every day.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
I don't like it.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
unidentified
I don't like this background.
joe rogan
She said run!
unidentified
Get that girl away from me.
joe rogan
Ooh, I love the sound.
Oh, good lord.
ari shaffir
And the racin against Velociraptors.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
And the Velociraptors are running away from what is chasing him.
Because they're all gonna get killed.
ari shaffir
A super dinosaur.
It's a new super dinosaur.
joe rogan
Yeah, like regular dinosaurs weren't funky enough.
ari shaffir
For sure, the giant one they fed the sharks to, that's coming back into play later.
That's not going to only be a plot point they're going to hit once.
I disagree.
Really?
joe rogan
That could be it.
Yeah, it's very possible that's it.
ari shaffir
I don't think it is.
My bet said it's not.
joe rogan
I think it's probably really expensive to film underwater shit, and they're like, look, if we could stick to the jungles, we could save about $75 million from the budget.
ari shaffir
No way!
They're gonna do it all!
This is a trick movie.
joe rogan
James Cameron has this underwater technology down pat.
He's the only guy right now because of Avatar 2. And he's deep sea diving in the rig, right?
Yeah, he is.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's crazy.
joe rogan
He goes down like the bottom of the fucking ocean.
ari shaffir
He's setting records.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
Him.
Think about him.
The guy's nuts.
He goes to the bottom of the ocean, and he, like, innovates.
He's, like, one of those guys that's involved in the innovation as far as, like, deep-sea filming and exploration.
He's going down in little one-man submarines and shit.
unidentified
Like...
ari shaffir
Yeah.
That's where he's gonna die.
He's gonna die in one of those things.
joe rogan
Maybe not.
ari shaffir
Maybe not, though.
joe rogan
Even more incredible if he gets through all this and he's fine.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you can see the depths of the fucking...
where no one has ever been.
joe rogan
Look, he's got enough money to do it correctly.
ari shaffir
God.
joe rogan
I mean, he's incredibly wealthy and incredibly smart.
ari shaffir
Do you think he has a wife that's like, you should take me with you next time.
You don't think I want to see that stuff?
joe rogan
That's how annoying his wife is.
He goes to the bottom of the ocean to get away from her.
Could you imagine if that's what he said?
Can you imagine?
James Cameron, why did you go to the bottom of the ocean?
Because my wife won't shut the fuck up.
unidentified
I just can't.
ari shaffir
That was his post-game interview.
joe rogan
We're not saying it is, Mr. Cameron.
Please, please don't hack our station.
unidentified
Please.
joe rogan
We're humble servants of the Lord.
ari shaffir
The overlord Cameron.
joe rogan
We love you.
We love you.
I'm a huge James Cameron fan.
I love that fucking movie.
ari shaffir
He does cool stuff.
joe rogan
Not just that one.
I love a million of his movies.
ari shaffir
What else has he done?
joe rogan
God damn.
We want to pull up his IMDb.
unidentified
They're making two sequels to Avatar, right?
ari shaffir
No way.
unidentified
Yeah.
Avatar 2 and Avatar 3. Is that what I... Really?
joe rogan
You're making two of them?
Yeah.
He's done so many movies, man.
Yeah, he did Aliens, right?
unidentified
In the Terminator movies.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did the Terminator movies.
ari shaffir
Terminator movies, that's right.
And then he married the girl.
joe rogan
Did he do the first one, too?
ari shaffir
He married the girl from the Terminator movies, right?
unidentified
Bam!
joe rogan
I'm gonna fuck my star.
ari shaffir
Never found her that hot.
joe rogan
What?
How dare you?
ari shaffir
I always thought she was just like there.
joe rogan
Take a lap.
Take a lap.
ari shaffir
I'll stand by it.
She's a date in six.
joe rogan
Oh, she's so sexy.
She's a survivor, bro.
unidentified
Three new Avatar movies.
joe rogan
Wow, three new?
So there's going to be four of them total?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Damn, he did Titanic.
Motherfucker did Titanic.
Okay.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, Titanic.
joe rogan
And Aliens.
You know, I had a problem with Aliens and I still do.
The only reason I have a problem with it is because I saw Alien.
Aliens is all of a sudden they became dopey and easy to kill.
ari shaffir
Because there were more of them.
joe rogan
Yeah!
Alien, the first one, He's incredibly smart and slick and avoiding people.
And he finds a way to ambush you when you're not looking.
You turn around and he's there.
ari shaffir
That's what they always do in the movies.
They scale wrong.
So you can murder a thousand people trying to stop you, but then one guy, it's difficult.
unidentified
Unless that one alien was that bad of an ass.
ari shaffir
He was just born.
He was a newborn with no one to teach him.
joe rogan
The problem is...
ari shaffir
He had no one to teach him, right?
He's the one who escaped out of the fucking belly and ran off?
joe rogan
Exactly.
That's a good point.
ari shaffir
He's living on his own.
joe rogan
You're really being compassionate.
That's beautiful.
You're right.
No one talked to a little guy.
ari shaffir
On his own, he figured that out.
joe rogan
Maybe what we would do to fix the alien population is get them together, like when they're really young, and feed them only vegetables.
ari shaffir
Oh, you're right.
joe rogan
Turn them into vegans.
Little vegan aliens.
unidentified
Change them.
ari shaffir
Change them.
joe rogan
Just give them beans.
Beans are fine.
There's a lot of protein.
ari shaffir
The aliens.
joe rogan
Mr. Alien, we have a bowl of beans.
It fucking slams its head into the door trying to get at you.
Trying to kill you.
You keep it in some sort of a cell.
We have your beans.
ari shaffir
Fucking get away from me!
unidentified
You fuck!
You fuck!
God damn it!
joe rogan
When are they going to be vegan?
They should be vegan by now!
ari shaffir
It's been wigs!
joe rogan
You go to try to retrieve your tray and there's fucking teeth mark in it, big shark bites taken out of it.
ari shaffir
Why are you eating metal?
Don't!
Just eat vegetables!
joe rogan
Mr. Alien!
Okay, I'm not giving you anything but mashed potatoes and sweet potatoes and yams.
And vegan butter.
ari shaffir
Cat escapes and goes in there.
unidentified
And they're just clawing at the door.
joe rogan
Clawing every day for 16 hours clawing at the door.
ari shaffir
Eventually they'll get calm instead of the stereo.
joe rogan
They have to bring in engineers to figure out when they're going to get tired.
They don't seem to be getting tired.
We should just give them some meat.
unidentified
No!
ari shaffir
It's all about the meat experience.
joe rogan
I can't do it.
I can't give them the meat.
unidentified
That would be a good sequel to Alien.
ari shaffir
again.
Alien the vegan.
unidentified
Can you imagine something like Alien?
joe rogan
Just take one right out of the chest.
It explodes into a tube.
We have the tube set up on the guy's chest when you know he's going to give birth to the alien.
Right when it breaks through, it breaks through into one of those vacuum things.
ari shaffir
The old mail slots?
joe rogan
Yeah, the mail slots.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those fucking things.
unidentified
Those tubes.
ari shaffir
That's the best way to get an abortion, is stick your vagina in that.
joe rogan
Jamie and I were looking at another warehouse space, and one of the spaces, like podcast studio space, one of the spaces had one of those things in it.
ari shaffir
Still there?
joe rogan
He opened the cap, he sticks something in it, he closed it.
Well, we don't know.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, we don't know if it worked, but they had a thing there.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
They had one of those fucking launcher things.
ari shaffir
Cool.
And then people just knew it just went to the right place, just shh.
joe rogan
I guess there was a destination on the other end.
The mailroom?
I don't know.
I think it might have been...
The place that we were looking at, they did all sorts of weird experiments.
So I don't know what the fuck kind of weird shit they were doing inside there.
They were doing missile technology.
Yeah, we looked at warehouses where they had previously done missile technology shit.
They probably weren't even supposed to tell us that, right?
Probably those motherfuckers.
They probably violated some sort of a constitutional amendment.
brian redban
We all start getting, like, knee cancer from just being there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Knee cancer.
ari shaffir
Knee cancer.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they had a tube.
They had one of those...
ari shaffir
Wow, that's fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
God, I would stick my hand in all the time.
Hold it back.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Of course.
Eventually, you'd have your dick in there, right?
With a fleshlight.
ari shaffir
Someone would.
joe rogan
Just saw the bottom off a fleshlight or unscrew it and just...
ari shaffir
Is this pure suction?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll just...
Suction.
ari shaffir
Someone's gonna do it.
joe rogan
Like, it's pulling you back in.
ari shaffir
Someone would definitely do it.
joe rogan
It might be built perfectly for it.
ari shaffir
It might be.
joe rogan
Imagine if no one knew, but then, like, you get, like, the standard, like, male slot vacuum thing, and you put a flashlight to it, and you're like, oh my god, look at this.
unidentified
Shunk!
joe rogan
It just, like, locks in place, like, thunk!
This is like, it's like Indiana Jones, where you, like, put the right thing into the wall, and you turn the key.
ari shaffir
To make it work.
Oh, but then the worst part about that is after you come, it would just shut up that fucking slot, and someone else would just shoot it into somebody's office.
No, we're going to test it, just catch a fucking facial.
joe rogan
No, it goes right into the ocean, and it feeds fish.
It's biodegradable.
ari shaffir
Oh, this is all set up just for that?
joe rogan
Totally.
ari shaffir
Oh, okay.
You're building infrastructure.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's in Malibu.
It's the same house that they use to film Iron Man.
We're just coming on dolphins.
ari shaffir
Dolphins swimming in it and loving it.
joe rogan
The vacuum tubes leading out into the ocean.
Good lord.
Yeah, if somebody came up with something like that, have you seen the latest stuff they're doing with Oculus Rift?
They're doing Oculus Rift first-person porn.
They're doing three-dimensional, yeah, virtual reality.
ari shaffir
And so you have stuff on you, it's going to, like, touch you and stuff?
joe rogan
Not yet.
Right now, it's just you're watching it.
And you're watching it, and it looks like you're actually doing it.
Yeah, but eventually they're gonna be able to sync that up with something that stimulates your senses.
ari shaffir
You still haven't watched a South Park Oculus Rift episode, have you?
joe rogan
No, I have not.
unidentified
Man, you gotta watch this whole season of South Park.
ari shaffir
It's an amazing season.
Don't watch one episode.
This is the first season where the whole season holds together as one.
unidentified
It's like a movie.
ari shaffir
They have through lines.
Start at the beginning.
unidentified
You have...
joe rogan
I'm guilty of not watching enough South Park.
I'm really guilty.
I need to get on it.
Is it on Netflix too?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
It's on southparkstudios.com.
unidentified
Is it on Apple TV? It's on Hulu Plus.
joe rogan
Hulu Plus?
ari shaffir
It's probably on the Comedy Central.
unidentified
It's southparkstudios.com.
joe rogan
Well, Comedy Central, you use an HDMI to get it to the Comedy Central Direct or ccdirect.com?
ari shaffir
No, but not even.com.
Don't they have their own Apple TV and then...
unidentified
They have their own app.
joe rogan
Oh, they have an app.
unidentified
So if you have an iPad or an iPhone, you just use that app.
joe rogan
The UFC has an app now, too.
If you go on Apple TV, yeah, they have an app.
Like, you go on Apple TV, you can go to the UFC.tv.
You can go and watch Fight Pass.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, Fight Pass is available on Apple TV. And you can watch fights like that?
Yeah, dude.
I was watching the other day.
I was bored, and I just said, let me just watch some old fights.
And I watched, like, two hours of old fights.
I just kept choosing different fights.
ari shaffir
Yeah, we were Renazisis.
All those old, they each have their own symbol.
Whatever the fucking device is.
I haven't watched TV on a regular TV in forever.
What do they have those things up there where you can go to the Netflix one and the FX and...
joe rogan
Oh, like little icons you click on?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And because they all just have their own live HBO Go.
They all have their own live feed.
unidentified
And you just Apple TV it into the TV. Apple TV is incredible.
ari shaffir
The only thing that's incredible is live sports.
But now they've got that.
You can watch live Fox, live CBS. That's eventually going to happen.
joe rogan
I mean, why wouldn't they just...
ari shaffir
Get what you want to get.
Don't get what you don't want to get.
Have it all available to everyone.
joe rogan
The regular television networks are going to be obsolete.
There's almost no way around it.
It's just too difficult to support that sort of model when someone can do something like Netflix where they can have the entire season up in advance.
ari shaffir
In advance.
When you're ready, here it all is.
joe rogan
There's this Marco Polo show I'm watching.
Have you seen it?
ari shaffir
It's on Netflix.
joe rogan
It's fucking good, dude.
And the entire season is in advance.
You just download the whole season.
You binge watch from the jump.
I mean, it's fucking great.
ari shaffir
They've got a good model.
joe rogan
Ah, they're so, they're killing it.
But they have like some insane amount of people that have subscribed.
ari shaffir
Yeah, because they keep putting out good products.
joe rogan
70 million worldwide and 70 million people paying seven bucks a month.
That's a lot of fucking people, man.
unidentified
That's a lot.
joe rogan
That's insane.
The money's insane.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they keep putting it back into like making new shows and stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing.
ari shaffir
Game of cards.
House of cards.
joe rogan
And also stand-up specials.
They're great for stand-up specials.
Netflix, my first one, my first legit one, I did it for Netflix, then put it on Showtime.
That was 2005. That was old Netflix.
They were always doing things like that, though.
They've done a lot.
The Bill Burr one they did, the black and white one from Atlanta.
ari shaffir
And my special can be seen this Friday.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
ari shaffir
On Comedy Central.
unidentified
Yes!
ari shaffir
It's Friday night at midnight.
11 p.m.
if you're in the middle zones.
unidentified
But you can get it right now, right?
ari shaffir
You can get it right now.
Go to arieshaphir.com, arieshaphir.com.
joe rogan
Wait, what are you saying?
ari shaffir
It's right there.
It's available right now for download.
joe rogan
Hold on.
ari shaffir
What don't you understand?
unidentified
Hold on.
ari shaffir
Okay, hold on.
Let's back up.
joe rogan
You're trying to tell me that you can get your special right now at arieshaphir.com.
It's not even been on Comedy Central yet.
ari shaffir
That's right.
It's not even been on Comedy Central.
And you'll get the bigger version, the 30 extra minutes.
joe rogan
That is fucking outrageous.
ari shaffir
And a Jew and A. Yes.
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
The Jew and A is one of the funniest things.
joe rogan
That is outrageous.
ari shaffir
Have you ever seen the Jew and A? No.
joe rogan
Yeah, of course I have, man.
ari shaffir
I've been there.
joe rogan
A million times.
The back of the Comedy Store.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ask a Jew a question.
ari shaffir
Ask a Jew a question.
That's just fun.
unidentified
I was there before it was a Jew and A. Before somebody came up with, like, Jew and A. That's short in the Q&A Jew and A. Yeah.
joe rogan
It was weird watching you film that there.
That was one of the first days I ever came back.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I came back the day before that to watch the roast battle.
ari shaffir
I like how you said, I don't make a big deal with your special.
Let me just get it out of the way now.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wanted it to be, I wanted it to be, I wanted just to see your special, take it in, not as someone like, I can't believe I'm at the store the very first time back in seven years, and I'm seeing Ari's special.
Being filmed, I wanted to get that out of the way, so I got that out of the way first.
And I just...
It was so weird seeing you up there doing your special.
Like, killing it.
ari shaffir
Oh, thanks.
joe rogan
It was weird.
ari shaffir
Why weird?
joe rogan
Well, not weird, like, unexpected.
Just surreal in so many different ways.
Knowing you as long as I've known you.
Knowing you when you really first started doing stand-up.
ari shaffir
And you watched me on that stage fucking as a terrible new comic.
joe rogan
Well, as a smart, open-miker that had potential.
That's what I thought.
ari shaffir
But super green, anyway.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I thought you'd be fine.
I remember the moment I first started talking to you, I was like, this guy can do it.
I'm like, all you have to do is just keep going.
I knew you were smart, and you were funny, and you were young, and we were all young and awkward, but you were...
You had an idea.
Like, if you had an idea, you could say, we could be all talking, and you would say something, and people would go, yeah, you know, and that's all you need.
ari shaffir
That's all you need, and then you have to be able to draw from that.
joe rogan
Exactly.
But I knew you were smart, and I knew you were, you know, you were pretty driven to be a stand-up comic.
Like, you really wanted it.
I knew you were going to make it.
I knew you were going to make it.
It was just one of those things.
ari shaffir
I didn't.
joe rogan
You couldn't.
ari shaffir
No, no.
joe rogan
No, no one can.
I mean, that's just what it's all about.
I mean, that's also part of what drives you to put in the work.
That takes you to make it.
We all know guys that started out at the same time as you, that were really talented.
Like you were.
They had the same kind of potential that you had.
You know, there's a lot of them.
I don't even want to mention names because I don't want them to hear this podcast to be bummed out and how things went on.
They didn't go on to become professional comedians even.
They just kind of got a job somewhere and they never figured out how to follow through.
But there's a few guys that we could talk about off air.
They were like really goddamn good.
They were really good.
ari shaffir
Yeah, running in to watch their sets.
joe rogan
But I think that's for the guys who do get through.
It's a stern warning.
Like, don't think you're special.
Like, don't think you can ever relax.
Don't think you can ever take time off of analyzing what you're doing and making sure that you're doing it right.
Don't take it for granted.
Don't take the audience for granted, ever.
Don't, you know, just...
ari shaffir
Well, at every level of development, somebody's dropped off.
So even somebody's like, how to hit, you know, special.
And then it's like, then they drop off there.
Someone else has one good open mic joke and drop off there.
Like, at every level, you're going to have a...
Have however many people, ten people at that level, and it's going to drop off to three that make it to the next level.
joe rogan
We can all crash and burn.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, one of the things that's really excited me about being back at the Comedy Store and also deciding that I'm going to stay in L.A. for a while.
This area that we have now, the amount of cool places to work, the amount of cool comics, the amount of funny guys that are in this area that we're at right now, this is really rare.
This is a rare spot, man.
We've done some of these shows at the Ice House.
The last one we did I think it was you and Bill Burr and Joey Diaz and Brian Callen and Ian Edwards.
And we're sitting around and I was like, this is the fucking most murderous lineup I've ever seen in my life.
And we all live here, you know?
We all drive here on a Wednesday night to hug each other, smoke some joints.
You know, and Brian's doing the Ice House Chronicles.
He's getting millions of downloads out of the same spot.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're going up there and you're killing it in front of this crazy Pasadena crowd too.
ari shaffir
I know about comedy.
joe rogan
These are crazy shows, man.
I mean, these are shows that are just like...
ari shaffir
Yeah, me and Metzger always get into a fight over, like, LA or New York who has better comics.
But then I always point to, like, guys like Byrds.
Like, you developed their best ones and then shipped them off to us.
So, like, we're the Yankees.
joe rogan
There's no...
ari shaffir
Fucking, we have the best team.
joe rogan
There's no best.
ari shaffir
Yeah, this doesn't matter.
joe rogan
There's no...
It's all bullshit.
Like, the idea of arguing about that...
There's two good environments for stand-up, and I think one of the advantages that you have, coming from the LA model, which is less clubs, less sets, to the New York model, which is more clubs, more sets, more travel, you're hopping back and forth from club to club, is that you're coming from two different perspectives.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I like they're both.
I like they're both.
There's weaknesses that each one has, and they just can deal with it because they're used to that scene.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I feel like your jokes, your laughs per joke, the tightness of your joke has become cleaner since you went to New York.
ari shaffir
Yeah, in New York there's a lot of like, come on, come on, get to it, get to it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think that's a good thing to have.
ari shaffir
But then also center it with something else where it's not all about an ironic level of just, here's my writing joke.
They have a lot of that where it's not so much truthful, it's more like, here's a good joke about a thing.
joe rogan
Well, what I was going to say is I think that the combination of what you brought from your experience in LA and on the road and then going to New York, that's a good mixture.
And I think that ultimately that's all you could want as a comic.
I think one of the things that's really important for all of us that seems to be important when I watch other people do it, when I'm outside of it, is life experiences equal funny, equals perspective, equals funny.
The more experiences you have in your life, the more material you're going to have.
You know, and I mean, experience is like, go do something.
Like, go somewhere.
ari shaffir
Go do something, yeah.
joe rogan
Go do something.
Go try something out.
Like, Bill Burr's bit about being a helicopter pilot.
Have you ever seen that bit?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Let's get this new bit of a special about learning how to fly a helicopter.
I'm not saying anything more, because it's just that fucking...
It's that fucking good.
I don't want to ruin any of it.
I won't ruin it by saying the word helicopter, so I'll leave it at that.
But it's one of my all-time favorite bits.
And it's a bit that he developed by actually doing that.
By actually learning how to fly a helicopter.
He actually can fly.
So I think that doing stuff...
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's got a dog.
He had that great pit bull joke.
I like to watch people cross the street while he's coming at them.
He's like, yeah, I like the power.
joe rogan
He's got a lot of great jokes.
ari shaffir
Living a little.
joe rogan
Yeah, living.
Experiencing life.
ari shaffir
It's a whole different scene in New York.
Not just like the comics, but I'm talking about the girls, the bars, and the way you walk instead of drive.
Yeah, just a new experience in general.
Like, get your fucking mind moving.
joe rogan
It gets everything fired up in a new way.
And, I mean, even if you don't want to move somewhere, I mean, try jujitsu.
Do something weird.
ari shaffir
It's a different route to work every day.
joe rogan
Try surfing.
Learn how to surf.
Take a fucking lesson.
unidentified
Get out there in the fucking shark-infested waters of Santa Monica.
joe rogan
Swim for your life, boy!
Swim for your life!
Your toes are in the water.
unidentified
Dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum.
You know what I did for this special too?
ari shaffir
I worked this out in 10 countries.
This material.
joe rogan
Oh, that's interesting, man.
ari shaffir
I went to a bunch of different places and tried it as much as I could.
joe rogan
Well, you did a lot of comedy in China, and we talked about that the last time you were here with all that gutter oil stuff.
ari shaffir
Was that the last time I was here in June?
July, when I got back?
It was right when I got back from China.
joe rogan
Was that the last time?
unidentified
I think so.
ari shaffir
Man.
joe rogan
You might have been here in between.
It's hard to tell.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, maybe.
Oh, maybe I was here to tape the special.
joe rogan
Could be, yeah.
Yeah, I think you were.
ari shaffir
But doing comedy there for like a specific type of people, it's like, oh, interesting.
All right, some stuff works, some stuff doesn't.
joe rogan
Do they just go to see anybody who comes there every week?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
No, but a lot of them would.
They'll read, like, this comic's in town.
People seem to like him.
They'll be like, oh, maybe I'll go.
joe rogan
Well, it is pretty cool if you're in a spot, if someone figures out a way to get really good comics to fly out all the way to Singapore and perform in front of you.
Like, that's got to be pretty fun.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Brent Weinbach just got back.
They loved him.
Yeah.
joe rogan
They loved him.
unidentified
He's a funny dude.
ari shaffir
He's so weird and funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's very funny, though.
I really enjoy watching him.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's so outside the box.
What we're saying is, like, this is a great time.
There's so many good comics right now.
This is, like, maybe the best time of all time.
ari shaffir
There's a bunch of good people doing good stuff.
You're like, yeah, cool, man, cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, like, if you take yourself out of the mix.
ari shaffir
Yeah, take yourself out and then judge the system.
joe rogan
And then look at the system.
ari shaffir
Good shows.
joe rogan
There's so many shows and there's also like the ability to promote oneself through the internet has gotten to this point where you get to know people.
We've talked many times about Robin Harris who was a really funny black comic back in the 90s.
He died before anybody got to know who he was.
But he didn't really have the distribution.
He was in, like, a couple of movies.
He did, like, a little bit of...
He had a CD called Bay-Based Kids.
ari shaffir
Bay-Based Kids, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he was just so goddamn good, man, at the time.
But for whatever reason, the distribution method just wasn't available for him at the time.
And it's available now.
ari shaffir
It's way better than it's available now.
You can just find your...
That's why there's no big...
joe rogan
What's going on over there, Brian?
What are you doing?
unidentified
I was just trying to get my sweatshirt.
ari shaffir
That's why there's no giant bands anymore.
joe rogan
Looks like you're on fire.
ari shaffir
Because you don't need a Beatles for everybody.
You just need very specific things for very specific audiences.
joe rogan
Dave Matthews band.
ari shaffir
So they break it down further and further.
And it's like, you don't have to like Dave Matthews band.
You can like a little bit more of an upbeat Dave Matthews band.
Well, guess what?
There's nine bands that are playing that type of music right now.
And you can find all of them.
You don't have to wait for the radio to bring it to you.
joe rogan
That's a very good point.
ari shaffir
So you can't get these massive stars anymore.
joe rogan
Do you think that's true, though?
I mean, how does Justin Bieber emerge?
ari shaffir
Kids music.
joe rogan
Kids music is the only way it works.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and he was still through those distribution methods.
Those kids don't download shit yet.
joe rogan
I think that's probably best for everybody.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
There's no giant stars.
I mean, there's a lot of people that essentially should be giant stars that for whatever reason don't get considered in the same breath as like Jim Morrison or Janis Joplin or dead people, right?
Like, okay, Chris Cornell.
Chris Cornell from Soundgarden, maybe one of the greatest vocalists of all time.
ari shaffir
He's great.
joe rogan
Dude, he's a monster.
ari shaffir
He's still around, right?
joe rogan
Dude, of course he is.
But, I mean, if you, like, if you looked at, like, people who people, like, worship as being, like, all-time greats, for whatever reason, that guy, like, slips through the cracks.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
Right?
Some people just hold up and some people don't when you talk about him 20 years later.
joe rogan
That guy's amazing.
Listen to Spoonman, you know?
I mean, that guy had the most insane voice.
His voice is incredible.
ari shaffir
Did you hear the guy who took over for him?
Was that that band or the other band?
Who's the black guy that took over for the white guy?
Give it to me, Brian.
unidentified
Yeah, I know you don't.
The black guy that took over for the white bye?
ari shaffir
Yeah, they kind of...
joe rogan
White bye.
unidentified
White bye?
ari shaffir
Down in a Hole.
Who sang Down in a Hole?
unidentified
Oh, is that Allison James?
Yeah.
joe rogan
The black guy took over after...
ari shaffir
Oh, they got a new lead singer and he's black.
unidentified
Lane Stanley died.
ari shaffir
And he sounds exactly like Lane Staley.
Exactly like Lane Staley.
And you forget the fact that it's not Lane Staley until he sings Down in a Hole.
joe rogan
All right.
We're going to play a little game of YouTube Roulette.
ari shaffir
Yeah, can you tell?
joe rogan
Let's see if we get kicked off YouTube by playing this.
ari shaffir
You get kicked off YouTube by playing it?
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
We get kicked off all the time.
ari shaffir
Why?
joe rogan
So, I don't know.
It just happens.
So, let's see.
Let's play it.
unidentified
Free information trade, everybody!
joe rogan
What's it called?
jamie vernon
I have to find something with him and singing it.
joe rogan
Okay, what's homeboy's name?
unidentified
William Duvall, I have it.
ari shaffir
William Duvall?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, let's just find out some of their new shit.
He sounds just like...
ari shaffir
He sings the old stuff, too.
joe rogan
He doesn't seem black to me, man.
ari shaffir
Boom, there he is.
joe rogan
That guy doesn't look that black.
ari shaffir
He is black.
joe rogan
He looks, like, Sephardic.
Notice I used that really...
ari shaffir
Safest way to say it.
joe rogan
Really articulate term.
ari shaffir
Sephardic.
Makes you sound more cultured.
joe rogan
Yes, thank you.
He's a Semite.
unidentified
Man in a box.
joe rogan
That's the guy?
No, that's a white guy.
unidentified
That's Jerry Cantrell.
I think it's the guitar player.
joe rogan
That guy looks like he does meth.
ari shaffir
Wow, Jerry Cantrell looks like he should be in a fucking Nickelback.
joe rogan
Where is the black one?
Bring him to me.
ari shaffir
He's so happy with life and everything, though, so it's tough to believe that he can actually sing about heroin.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
That's the only song I don't buy from him.
joe rogan
Them Bones.
You know that song?
Them Bones.
ari shaffir
He sings it all.
joe rogan
Big ol' pile of them bones.
Oh, that guy's buck.
ari shaffir
Now, you realize.
I love that.
Different angles.
Oh, that guy's buck.
joe rogan
Black as fuck.
That is not the same dude.
At some point or another.
I gotta hear what this dude sounds like.
ari shaffir
You gotta hear it.
Just fast forward a minute and a half.
joe rogan
Get Born Again, 1998. Well, this is Lane Staley then.
This isn't the black gentleman.
ari shaffir
I don't know yet.
joe rogan
You think it's both?
After Lane Staley died.
unidentified
Staley died in 2002. The band decided to reunite for a benefit concert.
That was the starting point for a new beginning of Alice in Chains.
joe rogan
14 years, they released a new album with lead singer William Duvall.
Well, what is this?
Why am I reading this, Jamie?
Can I hear this gentleman sing?
unidentified
Where's...
ari shaffir
Yeah, just fast forward a minute and a half.
joe rogan
Where's the black guy?
unidentified
Yeah, you guys ready for this?
That's Gene Simmons.
joe rogan
What the fuck kind of fuckery?
That's the guy?
ari shaffir
It looks like him.
unidentified
So it's about their journey.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's that dude singing?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
unidentified
This is bullshit.
joe rogan
I want to hear about your journey.
ari shaffir
Jamie, this is probably your biggest failure you've ever had here.
joe rogan
I just want to say, as an artist, as an artist, artist to artist, shut up about your fucking journey.
unidentified
Ha ha.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're not a hobbit, okay?
You're a goddamn singer in a rock and roll band.
I know what you're doing, bitch.
ari shaffir
You're a journey.
joe rogan
How dare you?
ari shaffir
You're right.
They so overdo that.
Fucking shut up.
unidentified
How dare you?
ari shaffir
Grab me a river.
joe rogan
How dare you?
ari shaffir
Journey.
joe rogan
Journey.
unidentified
I had to take my own guitar case up to my room.
joe rogan
Fur-topped boots, tied up with fucking sinew.
unidentified
Did you hike over the hill?
ari shaffir
We always see DSA guys with leather pants in Hollywood during the day when it's hot out.
He's like, that's the only pants they own.
They're their fucking show pants.
They're hot as shit, and now it's melting inside.
joe rogan
Your ball bag's simmering in there.
It's cooking.
It's like a fucking ceviche.
ari shaffir
Jamie, this is the same video.
unidentified
Come on, Jamie.
ari shaffir
Come on, dude.
What's going on over there?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Jamie's been off.
Top five William Duvall songs.
Last couple.
ari shaffir
Wow, that looks weird with the 3D glasses on.
joe rogan
I'm not happy with these.
unidentified
William Duvall has made a generally positive number five.
joe rogan
Okay, let's...
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
We get it.
We get it.
Sounds like a white guy.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Sounds like Blaine Staley.
But yeah, we get it.
unidentified
How's your balls been, Ari?
Everything downstairs?
brian redban
Because we never talked to you about your balls and your butts and stuff like that.
Oh, great.
ari shaffir
Thought I had herpes.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
ari shaffir
Really positive I had herpes.
I mean, really positive.
unidentified
Like, what was the symptoms?
joe rogan
Like, on a 1 to 10. You had 10?
ari shaffir
I was a 9. I was like, fuck, well, I got herpes.
The symptoms were I saw a scab on my dick.
And I was like, well, that's...
And then I looked it up on Google, on images.
unidentified
What else do you think it is?
ari shaffir
Herpes scars or whatever.
Herpes outbreaks.
And it didn't look like most of them.
It looked about like one out of like ten of them.
A real light case.
Never had them before, but I was like, look, I'm not the most careful guy in the world.
I mean condoms.
I mean no condoms.
So I was like, well, look, it's caught up to me.
I guess this is fucking, you know, get it now.
joe rogan
It's better than I got it when I was 25. I wish right now we could play Damn It Feels Good To Be A Gangster.
unidentified
Because you were in 10 different countries at least.
ari shaffir
I was in a bunch of countries and I was like, look, this could have happened at any point, but I narrowed it down to who I thought...
It probably was.
I called like three or four girls.
Four girls.
Hey, I think I have herpes.
You should go get tested and stop fucking.
I'm like, why?
I'm like, I have a herpes outbreak.
There's no way there's anything else.
I have a herpes outbreak.
unidentified
Yeah, because what else could it be?
You just don't wake up and have a scab.
ari shaffir
Exactly.
And so I scheduled the blood work.
Get everything taken care of.
And in the meantime, it's over Christmas weekend, so it's going to take longer.
And then while I was hanging out, I was hanging out at the stand, comedy club.
Maybe the best club in New York.
But I'm talking to the owner and Pete Lee, this comedian, and telling him my problem.
And Pete was like, you know, where is it?
Like right underneath the hood of your dick?
I'm like, yeah, right there.
He's like, I had something like this once.
It was like a penile tear.
Have you done anything like rough lately?
And I was like, yeah.
Actually, I noticed it right after unlubricated anal sex.
That's when I first noticed it.
unidentified
You're lucky you're alive.
ari shaffir
But it just didn't go away.
unidentified
You're lucky you're alive.
ari shaffir
I'm lucky I'm alive.
And then that's what it turned out to be.
unidentified
How do you have unlubricated anal sex?
That's like...
ari shaffir
Fucking hard, bro.
Hard.
unidentified
I mean, no spit?
You didn't spit on the dude's ass first?
No, yeah, of course.
ari shaffir
It was wet.
It was wet.
unidentified
Of course.
ari shaffir
Lame.
Fucking...
That joke is played.
unidentified
Ha ha ha.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you get it wet and then you fucking go for it.
I don't know.
But yeah.
joe rogan
Do what you gotta do.
unidentified
So relieved.
joe rogan
But you didn't have anything commercial lubricant.
ari shaffir
So relieved.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And I'm telling you, if you think your wife has been happy when you've called before, after fucking three days on the road of not being able to call, you've never heard you tell a girl, oh, I was wrong.
You don't have herpes.
They get elated.
Overcome with joy.
unidentified
Now, do you think maybe you should have just waited until the results came back?
Yeah, sure.
ari shaffir
Well, I didn't want them to fuck somebody else in the meantime.
And then while I'm waiting aside, some other guy's life is ruined.
unidentified
Right.
Well, I heard this is...
ari shaffir
I may as well suck it up and take my lumps.
Also, on the other level, I figured I could tell them I'm 90% sure it was like a cop-out.
So I'm not like fully saying, look, I have it.
We fucked.
brian redban
I thought that, from what I understood when I got tested, was that you can only test herpes while the outbreaks happen and they actually spoon a little out of the outbreak.
Like you can't really, it's really hard to test for herpes.
So a lot of times you can get tested during like not an outbreak and be like, oh yeah.
ari shaffir
And you want to test positive for herpes?
unidentified
No.
ari shaffir
I think that was an old test.
I think that was like 15 years ago test.
joe rogan
They need Olympic style herpes test.
For serious boy and girl sluts.
unidentified
And I heard if you do pop it, you could actually taste it.
ari shaffir
Taste herpes?
unidentified
Yeah, it's like a sweetness.
What?
joe rogan
How many different fucking pus wounds do you have to taste before herpes is like, I got it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you can't just taste it once.
That might just be that pus.
unidentified
This is Sauvignon Blanc, 94. This person's had it for a while and treated.
joe rogan
It's a Burgundy from the South Valley.
ari shaffir
Burgundy!
Burgundy's around.
unidentified
The smell, the culture.
ari shaffir
Swiffer around like a penis in your hand.
unidentified
Look at the legs on that herpes.
ari shaffir
How many herpes did you have to be able to taste to be able to taste herpes?
joe rogan
Well, you know, they figured out a way to train dogs to smell cancer.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
That's awesome.
joe rogan
That's pretty crazy.
ari shaffir
That's awesome.
You're telling me they can't put a dog at the fucking TSA counter?
Smell for bombs?
joe rogan
Yeah, but they also were going to smell for weed.
ari shaffir
No, only training to smell for bombs.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
What about the weed dog?
He needs a job.
ari shaffir
Get him in fucking Miami Airport.
joe rogan
The weed dog, he fucks up.
He thinks it's a bomb, but it's really just weed.
The poor guy, we try to train him.
Listen, man, we don't want to send him to the pound, Ari.
Let's just take a few, you know, one or two weed arrests a month.
It's not going to hurt anybody.
We're going to get more revenue in the system.
We're going to have...
No!
unidentified
That's infringing on our rights just for your way to raise money.
joe rogan
And you know what?
Sometimes out of that struggle comes a dialogue.
unidentified
No!
ari shaffir
That's not a thing!
You're just robbing us and saying...
joe rogan
A few important people...
ari shaffir
You're saying buzzwords, cops.
Don't stop!
Don't just rob our freedoms.
Say buzzwords.
No, don't just say the children.
joe rogan
They're gonna go to jail for a little while, 24 hours.
Maybe you'll snap them.
I'll tell you what, my friend's son, the kid was a ne'er-do-well.
He started going to jail, and he got out of jail, and he realized, I don't want to go to jail anymore.
ari shaffir
No, that's not a reason to search every American.
joe rogan
He got back on the fucking right track.
ari shaffir
No, no, no.
I'm sorry, Cops and Jerry Everman.
You're not giving me good reasons.
joe rogan
I punched him in the stomach, and I brought him to the Lord.
unidentified
Did you know that?
joe rogan
Have you seen that video?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
You want to see something hilarious?
ari shaffir
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
Pull that video.
ari shaffir
You want to see something great?
joe rogan
Pull that video.
ari shaffir
And then get ready, Bonnie, uh, wait, Princess Bunny.
joe rogan
Princess Bunny?
ari shaffir
Do you remember Princess Bunny?
unidentified
What are you talking about?
ari shaffir
You're about to see something that's going to disturb you.
joe rogan
You're about to see, before that, you're about to see a guy punch a guy in the stomach.
I want to see that.
Yeah, um, he says, uh, pastor...
I was on my...
Yeah, pastor punches kid in the chest.
Look, as soon as he starts writing pastor, that's what shows up.
It's one of the first, uh, that's it right there.
This is so ridiculous.
unidentified
There was a young man in Calvary.
His name was Ben.
joe rogan
I mean, this is really ridiculous.
unidentified
I was running a youth group.
I was there for a few years.
He was just, he was a nice kid, but he was one of those kids that was always just, he's a real smart aleck.
Was a bright kid, which didn't help things, right?
Made him more dangerous.
We were outside one day, youth group, and he was just trying to push my buttons, and he was just, you know, kind of not taking the Lord serious.
And I walked over to him, and I went, bam!
I punched him in the chest as hard as I crumpled the kid.
ari shaffir
Why'd you punch him in the chest?
unidentified
I just crumpled him.
And I said, I leaned over and I said, Ben, when are you going to stop playing games with God?
I led that man to the Lord right there.
There's times that that might be needed.
ari shaffir
What?
unidentified
Ew.
What?
He didn't give a good example at all.
ari shaffir
There's times that that might be needed.
What are you talking about?
The guy was just being a smart aleck?
unidentified
Right.
ari shaffir
He just punched a kid.
joe rogan
He was smart, but that's bad.
He was saying he was smart, and that was part of the problem.
ari shaffir
Too much ammunition.
What a chump that guy is.
joe rogan
I love the word chump.
ari shaffir
Wow.
Just a straight jerk.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
ari shaffir
Punched him as hard as he could in the chest.
You punched a little boy at youth camp?
joe rogan
And I said, Ben...
ari shaffir
And crumpled him?
Oh, really?
joe rogan
When are you going to take the Lord serious?
unidentified
That's ridiculous.
ari shaffir
Why was he making jokes?
joe rogan
Ari, he wasn't taking the Lord seriously.
ari shaffir
He's being smart, Alec.
I punched him.
joe rogan
That's a grown adult.
ari shaffir
That's a grown man who's teaching people, who's leading people.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got a microphone on.
ari shaffir
Fucking Christianity should be illegal.
joe rogan
It all should be illegal.
Anybody telling you they know the answer should be arrested.
ari shaffir
When you know they're not.
That's false advertising.
joe rogan
They should all be arrested, man.
ari shaffir
You can't put on food, even this crooked FDA, you can't put on food tons of nutrients without any proof of nutrients.
You can't do that.
joe rogan
That's so true.
That's so true.
ari shaffir
You can't just say, oh no, I know the answer.
It's like, could you show us that you do it all?
Are you just making it up and taking people's money?
joe rogan
Sir, would you like to show me your proof of this Adam and Eve concept you've been throwing in front of this congregation?
What do you have written down?
Do you have any studies?
Anything with some veracity?
ari shaffir
Yeah, when you look about it, when you take a step back and look at any level of religion, you're like, oh, this might be garbage.
joe rogan
Or this is garbage.
ari shaffir
This is garbage.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is garbage.
This is a bunch of people that were trying to figure out what the fuck the stars were.
ari shaffir
Noah's Ark bit was great.
I have a joke about the Ten Commandments in my new special, Paid Regular.
Out this Friday night.
Set your DVRs.
joe rogan
It is funny.
You'll like it too.
ari shaffir
DVRs coming from Central Midnight.
joe rogan
Ari Shaffir.
He's got a new special.
ari shaffir
He's got a few songs in there.
unidentified
I like it.
And it's funny.
Ari Hasford.
And it's funny.
joe rogan
This Friday night.
Is it censored or uncensored?
ari shaffir
Censored online.
I mean on TV. Uncensored online.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So, if you have it on television, it comes on after midnight, they can do whatever they want.
Right?
They can have it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, there's stuff I'm able to get where they were like, well, we don't know about that.
I was like, are you serious?
And they're like, oh, actually, it's after midnight.
We'll just fucking, it's fine.
joe rogan
After midnight is the right spot.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I guess so.
Except you want more people to see it.
But more people can at Ari Shaffir.
joe rogan
My comedy special aired again last Friday night.
ari shaffir
Did it really?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
That's great.
So you got a bunch of feedback?
joe rogan
I wish I had more of a heads up so I could have promoted it.
But yeah, the feedback has all been good, man.
The ratio to people that didn't like it versus liked it was way higher than my last one.
So that means I'm on the right track.
I think that right now, it's such an exciting time for stand-up, and I'm so excited about doing new shit.
I don't think in all the years I've been doing comedy, I've had more fun doing it.
ari shaffir
Doing new stuff.
joe rogan
Fuck, I'm loving it.
ari shaffir
But it's not like you're not trying to do well.
You're trying to kill it, but just with newer...
It's like taking a smaller bat and still trying to hit a home run.
joe rogan
Well, you gotta throw water on that, bitch.
You gotta keep using fertilizer.
Start a mulch pit, son.
Get your fucking compost game.
Get your compost game up, kid.
It's an amazing time, man.
I'm having so much fucking fun.
Especially that show in Vegas.
God damn, that was fun.
ari shaffir
That was cool.
The Phoenix show was really cool.
joe rogan
That was fun, too.
ari shaffir
Terry Fader Theater is really good for it.
and they got that fucking...
When I tell you the word I was looking for, when I tell you the word I was looking for, it's where it's clock.
unidentified
That's a good one.
ari shaffir
The sword.
I couldn't find it.
My brain wouldn't have...
I gotta stop smoking weed and start reading.
joe rogan
Don't do it.
ari shaffir
The combo.
One or the other.
I gotta do one or the other.
I can't let this keep going downhill like it is.
I can't remember my clock!
joe rogan
You gotta start working out, son.
ari shaffir
This clock's all over!
unidentified
Dude, what you need?
joe rogan
I gotta get you working out.
ari shaffir
There's one right here.
I can't remember what the word is.
joe rogan
I gotta get you on it.
ari shaffir
I need lumosity.
joe rogan
I need you to do some kettlebells.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
When's the last time you took a break from smoking?
ari shaffir
What?
In London for fucking three days.
unidentified
Allegedly.
ari shaffir
Three days in London.
That was it.
And then right back to it.
joe rogan
Did you not know anybody there or something?
ari shaffir
I was working.
I had to do this thing where I was working so I was like quickly like doing...
I didn't have time to like go out and try to find weed.
And then I just didn't find it.
joe rogan
Too much danger in another land.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I got scared.
I didn't take anything with me.
joe rogan
Good.
That's smart.
ari shaffir
Overseas, I'm always like, oh, how'd you know?
unidentified
How'd you know?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Overseas is too much danger to take it with me.
But...
Yeah, I just didn't find that name.
It's like what you said, Celebrity Rehab.
It's the easiest fucking thing to come off.
If you don't have any, you're like, oh well.
I sure would want some, but I've been working, so I don't have time to do it.
joe rogan
Well, if you watch Celebrity Rehab, you see Eric Roberts on it.
ari shaffir
That's it, Eric Roberts.
joe rogan
Eric Roberts.
ari shaffir
You said everyone's having the shakes.
Everyone's coming off coke and meth.
joe rogan
Eric Roberts is drinking coffee reading the New York Times.
ari shaffir
Coming down off weed.
joe rogan
He had his fucking feet in slippers.
ari shaffir
He was in a reading robe.
joe rogan
Everybody else had fucking crusty mascara all over their face and tears and fucking sadness.
Band-Aids over their major arteries.
ari shaffir
And Dr. fucking Drew still won't say it's different than those other things.
Come on, Drew.
unidentified
But you do know people that can't stop.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I know people who can't stop doing a lot of shit.
I know people who can't stop jerking off.
Yeah, I know people who can't stop gambling.
unidentified
Right.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Wow, with the 3D glasses, the fire looks really kind of weird.
joe rogan
It looks magical.
unidentified
I wonder if, like, if we keep this arm this long, when we take him off, it's going to fuck our regular.
joe rogan
It probably is already fucked.
ari shaffir
When I go over the blue, it just goes off.
When I go over to my left side, the flame just goes off.
unidentified
Gaze.
joe rogan
Gaze into the burning magic.
unidentified
Joe, do you want to see this pool table projection?
joe rogan
No, I don't want to see that shit.
unidentified
It's cool, man.
joe rogan
That's cheating.
ari shaffir
I've never seen Joe react so horribly to any piece of technology.
unidentified
No, you can't add new layers to games.
joe rogan
No, it doesn't.
A real pool table is played with fucking traditional lights and regular balls to keep everything clear.
This is Ames, mister.
unidentified
No bar, no pinball machine, no bowling alley.
joe rogan
You can see the bottom.
ari shaffir
Still felt, but see-through felt.
joe rogan
Oh, no fucking way.
unidentified
And a fucking place in there the whole time.
Yes!
ari shaffir
Maybe you can play TV so you can watch the big game while you're lining up.
joe rogan
If you hate money, go ahead.
If you want to win, you can't play like that.
A pool table is supposed to be a green landscape of opportunity, of collisions, of maneuvering, of English and spin and reaction to chalk and balls colliding and slide and follow and draw.
That's what it's supposed to be.
Not pussy and glass.
Not supposed to be looking down at a fucking glass table.
That's horse shit.
ari shaffir
No!
joe rogan
It's not what it's about.
Make your own new game.
Okay?
How about you just...
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
...be on a table.
ari shaffir
Do you guys remember Chess 2?
They had Chess 2. Instead of having straight up and down, they would have the go like this, like lines.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
So you couldn't really see where another opponent was.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
You couldn't really visualize it.
Yeah.
So, like, you'd have the corner ones.
What'd you go diagonal?
unidentified
Battle chess?
joe rogan
Oh, uh, rooks?
ari shaffir
Maybe.
unidentified
Bishops.
ari shaffir
Bishops, yes.
And they'd be, like, almost right above you.
So, like, well, they can't get me.
But then you look at the way it's, like, curved.
And you're like, oh, it's right in a diagonal line.
joe rogan
The rook is the castle, right?
ari shaffir
Rook is the horse, yeah.
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
No, the castle is the rook, you're right.
joe rogan
Yeah, the knight.
unidentified
What is it?
joe rogan
Knight is the horse.
Knight is the horse.
ari shaffir
Wow.
For a game for intelligent people.
We couldn't even remember the pieces.
joe rogan
When was the last time you ever even tried to play a game of chess?
unidentified
It's been a while.
joe rogan
I fucked around with it on my phone like maybe a decade ago.
ari shaffir
That was it?
unidentified
Do you guys like Chinese checkers?
I was always a Chinese checkers guy.
ari shaffir
Chinese checkers?
No.
unidentified
That was always my favorite.
You could play up to like, I think, five people or something.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
All sides.
Like a Jewish star.
In Washington Square Park.
You ever go there and watch those chess players?
Man, that's fun to watch.
joe rogan
The timing chess where they hit the clock and they slap the clock.
ari shaffir
They only get so much time.
joe rogan
That's amazing stuff.
Because they're really thinking, like, about this grand plan on this board and where all these pieces have opportunities.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're sitting all at once.
joe rogan
And trying to be sneaky and creative and they're doing it on a clock.
God, I'm dumb.
I feel so stupid.
ari shaffir
And they're like homeless people too that are playing there.
It's not like winners.
joe rogan
The thing about pool and the thing about chess and the thing about there's a lot of these games that are so engrossing.
You get so sucked into them that it takes over all your other ideas.
There's a lot of bachelors that just wind up being some bachelor in some shitty apartment and you just give up on having a girlfriend and you just gamble all the time.
And you get sucked into that lifestyle.
And you see that a lot of times with, like, pool.
With pool, you see that a lot.
ari shaffir
So the pool hall groupie, like, describe her.
Would she get, like, passed around?
unidentified
There's a groupie in every, if you can think of anything.
joe rogan
If you can think of, like, miniature golf, there's probably miniature golf.
ari shaffir
Once Tommy DeLutz showed me who the bowling groupies was, right after I was saying the UFC groupies, that's when I realized everybody's got a groupie.
joe rogan
There are definitely pool hall groupies.
What's interesting, they will go for the best players.
They always want to date the best players.
ari shaffir
It's not about looks or young.
joe rogan
No, no.
There's like dudes who aren't that good looking, but they're really good players and they'll get like pretty good looking pool groupies because the pool player girl like really wants to be associated with like a world class player.
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
Are they pool players too?
joe rogan
Sometimes, yeah, most of the time.
Most of the time, yes.
unidentified
Usually they smoke Marlboro.
joe rogan
The ones who are, like, pool players as well, then they really appreciate how good a guy is.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, so there's like...
But I think that's the way with everything.
Cello players and fucking...
You know what I mean?
And male to female as well.
I think there's men that are just obsessed with the way a woman sings.
They become, you know...
Fan of that.
There's no getting around it, you know?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're impressed by shit.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
You just stay in that world, and that's all I care about.
Of course that's who you want to fuck.
joe rogan
If a guy's a badass pool player, and that's all you care about is pool, that guy's doing magic up there.
ari shaffir
Someone's talking about David Letterman.
It's like, well, the problem is he uses power to get laid.
You're like, oh, you mean you can't build up a bunch of power and then use it?
What do you mean?
It's half the reason to build power to become the president so girls would want to fuck you.
You're not like saying, I won't give you this promotion without you fucking.
It's just saying, they just come in wanting to fuck because I'm President Bill Clinton.
And I'm supposed to suddenly go, no, that's wrong for me to accept.
joe rogan
And you're also supposed to deny a Fucking million generations of conquerors in their whoremongering ways, and you've usurped them to become the fucking king of the world.
I mean, the president of the United States is the king of the world, right?
ari shaffir
No, I'm too good.
I don't get laid because of the system of Catholicism that started in our country fucking 200 years ago.
joe rogan
He's a noble man.
ari shaffir
Nobody's that noble.
Even the fucking good one on Game of Thrones.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Well, the Game of Thrones is like really...
ari shaffir
Even the good guy.
He fucking cheated on his wife.
That's why he has that bastard son that they sent to the fucking castle.
Because he cheated on his wife.
joe rogan
That's right.
ari shaffir
That's the best man that's ever been in that fucking world.
joe rogan
That's true.
Spoiler alert.
Let's not say anymore.
ari shaffir
Cheating on the red.
joe rogan
Stop it right there.
unidentified
Do you know this is episode 600?
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
That's crazy.
ari shaffir
This is episode 600. I just did episode 200 this week on Skeptic Tank.
unidentified
Oh my.
joe rogan
My goodness, that's the same thing.
ari shaffir
800 episodes between us.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That's a lot of fucking talking.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Shocking amount.
ari shaffir
Jesus.
joe rogan
Damn.
unidentified
Have you done anything interesting on your podcast lately?
brian redban
My favorite one was the one where you had a talk with a hooker back in the day.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I've had a few good ones like that.
I had this guy who helps work at the Insight at that Vancouver place with a safe shoot-up place.
joe rogan
Safe shoot-up place?
ari shaffir
Yeah, you know, Hastings Street's all fucking zombies and fucking heroin addicts.
And so they offer this safe shoot-up place where you can tell them what you're going to shoot up on.
And if something goes wrong, they can tell the paramedics how to revive you.
So it's just not as dangerous.
The cops don't bug it.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah, so they told me all about that.
What it's like, if there's fucking going on.
Just regular questions.
Turns out there's no fucking going on.
Because when you want heroin, sex drive goes way down.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That was a good one.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
And then this week's about the open mic at the Comedy Store.
That was a really good one.
joe rogan
The open mic?
ari shaffir
Yeah, about potluck.
unidentified
Wow.
Did you talk about how it pretty much got it chopped in half and how it's not as...
ari shaffir
No, this was about the heyday when it was the freak show.
When you hosted it.
When it was just a freak show.
joe rogan
I'm giving up on these glasses.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm having a fucking aneurysm.
unidentified
Wait.
ari shaffir
What?
unidentified
Let's do them backwards for...
Oh, to see what the alters are.
ari shaffir
Oh, things are a different color a little bit.
Yeah, wow.
joe rogan
Wow, it's so much better.
unidentified
Oh, it is better.
ari shaffir
Yeah, definitely don't wear this for an hour or more.
Just kind of look at the shirt in them.
joe rogan
We did, like, almost two hours with those stupid fucking things on.
ari shaffir
Just kind of look at the shirt, say, wow, cool, and then take them off.
joe rogan
So when I hosted it, it was like...
ari shaffir
Yeah, I mean, you hosted the employees and the showcases, but before that part is the potluck part, where it's the fucking 20 pure open micers, which could be guys like me when I started, or could be fucking guys like Boon Shakalaka.
joe rogan
When did I host it?
ari shaffir
Just that one time.
joe rogan
I host regular open mic night.
I hosted people going on for the very first time ever.
ari shaffir
Yeah, uh-huh.
That's what Bob Oshack did for years.
That's what I did for years.
joe rogan
Bob Oshack is a funny fucking dude.
I was always amazed that Bob Oshack didn't become like some sort of a...
ari shaffir
He became one of the head writers at Ferguson.
joe rogan
But I would have thought that he would be like...
ari shaffir
A host.
A letterman.
joe rogan
Like a famous guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like he's really funny and really nice.
unidentified
I think...
ari shaffir
Oh, super nice.
unidentified
Really good.
ari shaffir
Good human.
Only fucked his wife ever.
One of those guys.
Like, you know, polo shirt.
joe rogan
He's funny as shit too, man.
ari shaffir
But I think he really loves being in a fucking writer's room and just churning out jokes.
I think he loves doing that.
Give me the topic.
I'll hit you with fucking eight hours worth right now.
joe rogan
I've always thought that guy was going to be some big household name.
I remember watching him.
I'm like, he's so composed.
ari shaffir
He would have his bits.
He's like the opposite extreme of people who write on stage.
He was like 98% done with his bits when he brought them up for the first time.
joe rogan
Isn't that wild?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
He was the open mic host.
He was the potluck host when I started.
So he was like the first professional comedian I saw over and over again.
joe rogan
Powerful Bob Oshack.
ari shaffir
Powerful Bob Oshack.
joe rogan
He's out there, representing middle America.
Where's he from?
ari shaffir
He's still in LA. Some weird cornfin.
Tennessee or Alabama.
joe rogan
One of those weird spots.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He wears it.
ari shaffir
He wears it for sure.
joe rogan
He wears it like a shield, like one of those motorcycle jackets with pads all over the elbows.
ari shaffir
It's one of his best jokes.
He's talking about, like, it's okay to look.
That's all right, but as long as you don't hop on her.
She's the last chopper out of Nam.
unidentified
Ha, ha, ha.
ari shaffir
He has such good, like, lines.
joe rogan
Ah, he's a good writer, man.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Funny dude.
And just a good dude.
ari shaffir
He comes around once in a while.
He's cool.
joe rogan
Does he still do stand-up?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
A little bit.
But Tommy kind of was like, mm, kind of pushed him to the side, so I think now he's back a little bit more.
joe rogan
That's really unfortunate.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy should get spots.
But that's, uh, you know, when you're primarily focused on one club and you have a Bad relationship.
ari shaffir
With that one club.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But it was like that with Mitzi too.
Mitzi would give them like one spot a week.
It went out a month and it's like, why?
She just like didn't want any more.
I don't know.
But it's the same thing though.
It's one club.
You're talking about one guy letting you say yes or no.
joe rogan
Isn't there something when you see certain guys where you go, okay, I think if you don't really pay attention to this guy, you might see it one way.
But if you follow him long enough, you realize there's like all these layers underneath there.
ari shaffir
Oh, right.
That you weren't even seeing.
joe rogan
Yeah, like you're looking at him, you might judge him.
Oh, look at this guy.
He's wearing a tie.
He's on stage.
His glasses on.
He's trying to be cutesy.
He's trying to be proper.
But then, like, you watch him a few times.
You go, oh, this guy's, like, really funny.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's just making a presentation.
unidentified
Okay.
ari shaffir
That's what Tom Papa is.
You're like, why are you wearing a suit, man?
And then you're like, oh, you're not a suit comic.
You're just wearing a suit.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it's like we're being prejudiced.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
We love it because he wants to look good.
We're like, fuck you.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whereas, like, if you, like, went on TV on some television show, like, The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, you had a hoodie on?
unidentified
Like, get the fuck out of here.
ari shaffir
They'd be like, who the fuck do you get to fucking wear something nice?
joe rogan
Yeah, you piece of shit.
You're not happy to be in front of us like it's your birthday?
ari shaffir
There was some old jazz singer who got, like, one of those trombones, one of the greats, like, Dizzy Gillespie types, and he was like, the one thing I was told was, I know I was living out of my car, but they're like, find yourself a good suit.
When you're on stage, you gotta present.
You gotta present.
joe rogan
Well, most important, when you don't have money, that's why those nouveau riche nirvana type motherfuckers had millions of dollars and they're wearing tattered up Converse All-Stars.
ari shaffir
Cardigans with one button missing.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was almost like a badge of courage that they kept their wardrobe as real as possible.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
Again, if you could do that at the MTV Video Music Awards or...
You can do whatever the fuck you want when you're in nirvana.
You don't have to wear suits.
unidentified
Nobody ever expected Kurt Cobain to wear a suit.
joe rogan
If Kurt Cobain went on stage with a suit on, that would be him fucking with you.
Yeah, exactly.
ari shaffir
What are you trying to say here?
Yeah, but if you saw him the first time that night, you'd be like, I don't get it.
Why is he wearing a suit?
Because that's Kurt Cobain wearing the suit.
Yeah, you're right.
Sometimes people just don't see it right away.
Or comics sometimes choke under showcase situations.
joe rogan
That's definitely true.
I've done it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
I've done it on auditions.
I've done it on important sets.
ari shaffir
Even your average is better than that.
joe rogan
It's hard.
ari shaffir
Damn, I did like 20th percentile instead of...
joe rogan
Yeah, you could, I mean, up till, you know, the time you record a special, like when you're trying to develop new material, there's always the possibility that it could go wrong.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's always that possibility.
ari shaffir
I saw Dave Smith, this comic in New York.
He's actually a really good political comic, but he's new, and he went up to the cellar, and he just fucking choked.
And then he had to wait around for her to come tell him no.
That's great.
You're like, but maybe, because you always hold off in the back of your head, but maybe, maybe she'll be like, well, that was good.
You didn't have a good set, but I like it.
Nobody just goes, yeah, obviously, I didn't do it right.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
ari shaffir
I was there so many times.
I felt so bad for her.
I was like, I've been there.
Waiting.
Maybe she'll just...
No!
They won't.
joe rogan
There's nothing crazier than watching someone perform in front of Mitzi and hear a girl, He's terrible!
unidentified
Get him off the stage!
ari shaffir
Gosh!
Brutal!
unidentified
No.
Pass.
ari shaffir
It's my dream.
unidentified
Pass.
ari shaffir
Give the backhand wave away.
Do you have dealings with her at all?
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot.
Yeah, in the 90s, she was lucid.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
When I first met her, I had many conversations with her about comedy and what I was doing wrong.
ari shaffir
She was going to point that out.
She goes, you don't do new stuff in the beginning.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Bury it in the meadow.
joe rogan
Yep.
No, she was right about that.
She was always really smart about challenging you.
She would give you these sets.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where you would go on after whoever she thought was going to do the best.
She would shove you right afterwards to teach you.
This is what it feels like to be nobody.
ari shaffir
Oh, you think you're good?
Then go after this guy.
You should be able to.
joe rogan
Go on after Martin Lawrence in 1995. In his prime.
Good fucking luck, soldier.
ari shaffir
God, that would have been such a hard spot.
joe rogan
I took those spots.
ari shaffir
God, after Martin Lawrence.
joe rogan
I had many of those spots in the main room bombing.
ari shaffir
He was a killer, too.
He wasn't just famous.
He was a killer.
joe rogan
Plates of dry bum shit.
ari shaffir
Waiting for the light to come on.
Please.
joe rogan
Dude, I bombed going on after that guy.
ari shaffir
Here's when you know you're bombing in that room because it's so quiet.
When the neon light goes on, you hear...
And you're like, I don't even have to look over.
I know I'm done.
joe rogan
You feel like you can.
ari shaffir
It warmed your skin.
joe rogan
You feel the temperature change in your forehead.
ari shaffir
God.
That's what Sanchez said, because she made him follow dice every night.
He said he tried to be extra dirty, and that didn't work, and then he tried to be extra clean, that didn't work, and then he was like, well, let me just do what I do, I guess.
And that was what worked.
Just trying to be funny.
joe rogan
You just have to accept your fate.
ari shaffir
Yeah, some of that too.
joe rogan
At the very least, you've got to prepare to dig your way out of the ditch that's in front of you.
Just keep hammering away at it.
Don't lose your composure.
And don't try to...
You've just got to submit to the fact that you'll never be better than Martin Lawrence in 1999. Right.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
We're there.
We're good.
ari shaffir
So now can we do okay?
joe rogan
Relax.
You're not going to kill.
ari shaffir
Big Jay sees those as good opportunities because the crowd's in an awesome mood.
Yeah, that's true.
And then some of it's being a comic and having to be like, it's not just my material.
I got to fucking move and shift with the fucking new room.
joe rogan
Well, it's also Big J in 2015 is way better than I was.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
In 1995. I saw Simone go up to Louis.
ari shaffir
And he did this whole thing where he's like, you got, because it was just like, you know, those are big moments for a comedy crowd.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
And he's like, you guys just got Louis C.K. You did it.
That wasn't that fun.
unidentified
You couldn't even come in here thinking you were going to see him fucking 11.45 a night.
ari shaffir
You saw that.
Everyone's like, yeah.
Now he's pulled him into his own wavelength.
unidentified
Hmm.
ari shaffir
With like 40 seconds of that.
joe rogan
And then he mouthfucks them all.
ari shaffir
And then he mouthfucks all of them.
joe rogan
He grabs them by the ears and just roars.
ari shaffir
Now you're going to listen to my stories of childhood!
And you're going to like me!
And he fucking killed.
But it's that technique of being able to like, let me pull them in here.
Like, being a legit comic.
joe rogan
Steve Simone is easily in the top 100 nicest people ever to enter show business.
Easily.
Of every people that have ever lived, he's easily in the top 100 nicest.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That guy's so nice.
ari shaffir
So nice.
joe rogan
He's such a friendly guy.
Like, who the fuck doesn't like Steve Simone?
ari shaffir
You're like, if you tell me you don't, I've never really experienced it.
joe rogan
I've never experienced it either.
ari shaffir
If you tell me you don't, though, then it's like, something's wrong with you.
unidentified
Carmichael.
Carmichael.
ari shaffir
Gerard Carmichael said that about Steve Simone.
unidentified
Shut up.
ari shaffir
No, Gerard's the second nicest guy.
joe rogan
He's pretty goddamn nice.
ari shaffir
He's gonna start a war between those two really nice guys.
Hey, Simone, I heard Gerard's talking shit about you.
joe rogan
Let's bring in the Pope.
This new Pope, yeah, you might think he's pretty cool, but here's what he said about Gerard Carmichael.
ari shaffir
His hugs are fake.
joe rogan
That motherfucker, he's got...
ari shaffir
He doesn't have strength behind them.
joe rogan
Sits in that regular chair, and as soon as the cameras goes off, bring me my throne!
ari shaffir
He's my example, Simone, of a nice way to be.
He'll go out of your way to lock your door when he gets out of your car.
joe rogan
Well, he's one of those guys, you see him, you always want to hug him.
He's just a genuine sweetheart.
ari shaffir
He has a podcast called Good Times with Steve Simone.
unidentified
And a special CD just came out.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
ari shaffir
Remember this.
joe rogan
Funny guy.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the guy, also homegrown.
ari shaffir
Homegrown, comedy store veteran.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's, yeah.
joe rogan
Steve Simone started there.
ari shaffir
Started there.
joe rogan
He might have done a few sets outside of that before.
ari shaffir
I think he did a few in Philly and then came, but like only a few.
joe rogan
Yeah, not much.
He grew up in front of us.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
He was the manager.
He worked there a bunch, too.
Worked there.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Bump it up, vomit.
joe rogan
Always a good dude.
Always a good dude, no matter what was going on.
ari shaffir
He was suicidally depressed.
He was just nice to everyone.
joe rogan
Well, you know, when things weren't going as well as they are right now, now he's doing great.
Steve Simone is starting to build momentum.
I hear a lot of people talk about him.
I hear tweets, like when he was releasing his album, we all retweeted his album, and all these people were talking about how funny he is.
He's a very loved guy now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard to, like, get that connection.
ari shaffir
And he's like, the stories he tells on stage are so good.
Like, he's like one of those guys, those storyteller guys that are, like, the best around at it.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Like, fuck.
joe rogan
Well, he's just a lovable dude.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Charismatic, lovable dude.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And he grew that style out of that battlefield of the comedy store.
Where he's like, I'm gonna be my thing.
I'm gonna tell stories of childhood and fun times and beautiful things.
And I'm gonna go after some guy who's talking about going down on a girl during her period, like Tripoli, and just fucking, you know, battling against some heckler.
And then he's going to be like, well, now we're going to reset and have a great time.
unidentified
That's so funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's, like, also Sebastian.
ari shaffir
Sebastian's another one.
He's clean dice.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, Sebastian's like, but he's hilarious.
ari shaffir
Straight killer in his own super clean way.
joe rogan
Yep, and just, like, tearing apart, like, you know, messy people.
ari shaffir
We were just talking about that he was shitting on, that he was like, he's against that, too?
What was it?
What was the topic?
I forget what it was.
Oh, Uber.
He's against Uber.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
It's hitchhiking with Yelp.
That's what he said.
Or it's hitchhiking with your phone.
ari shaffir
He shits on everything.
It's your best.
God, he's good.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think that's what he said.
It's hitchhiking with your phone.
Yeah, he's funny, dude.
I was alone in a hotel room.
ari shaffir
You saw the Sebastian special?
joe rogan
I saw his special on Showtime.
I think I was in Texas.
I think I was doing stand-up in Texas and just flipped on Showtime and I watched the whole thing and I was laughing.
I really, really enjoyed it.
Like, it was really fun.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's great.
He's one of the best in the business.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was cool to see, though.
You know, like, because again, like you...
ari shaffir
You saw a guy get passed.
joe rogan
Like Simone, yeah.
ari shaffir
You guys saw a guy get that, gonna become a paid record, like a hole in the shell, then get better, then be like, okay, he can stand his own, then start getting better, and totally one of the best comics in the country.
joe rogan
Yep.
Yeah.
unidentified
Who drew that, Ari?
That's just amazing.
ari shaffir
I don't know.
Who drew that?
I got my wispy hair, too.
When it's long, that's how it gets.
All wispy like that.
unidentified
Such a good photo.
ari shaffir
With balls?
joe rogan
You don't know who drew it?
ari shaffir
No.
Who drew that?
I don't remember that.
unidentified
I don't know.
Somebody just posted it on the message board.
ari shaffir
I got my long hair.
joe rogan
Well, why don't you ask whoever posted it where they got it.
Let's see if we can give that person credit.
unidentified
Yeah.
The whole thing.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
This looks like you fucked Daniele Bolelli.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
You guys fucked each other.
ari shaffir
Was my balls?
Was my balls like ha-ha?
unidentified
Yeah, balls right there, the ha-ha balls.
joe rogan
Half Jew, half Guinea kid.
ari shaffir
That's pretty good.
unidentified
I'm tired from doing morning radio.
ari shaffir
That's how my hair looks like that.
Then just take a shower, let it air dry.
joe rogan
The morning radio thing when you're on the road, that shit does get tiresome, doesn't it?
ari shaffir
It's just because you don't have a chance to sleep at full 4. Yeah.
You know?
It's like, all right, you go to sleep.
It's like, go to sleep.
I'm not tired at 10. I was going to sleep at 3.30 in the morning the last three straight weeks.
Was I going to sleep at 10 p.m.?
unidentified
The guy from the message board actually drew it.
Who?
His name is Tom Silverby.
I don't know.
What is that?
ari shaffir
Silverby?
Thomas?
unidentified
Thomas Overby, probably.
ari shaffir
Oh, there you go.
Tomas!
Tomas!
joe rogan
Tomas Overby?
Wow, that's his own art?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
He drew that while we're on the podcast?
unidentified
He said that.
ari shaffir
He started at the beginning of this podcast and he finished that right then?
joe rogan
He's probably been drawing you since he was a child.
unidentified
Tomas!
ari shaffir
He's been seeing visions of me.
joe rogan
A dedicated wall that's covered in yellow spackling.
The dried cum of his ejaculate.
ari shaffir
The first Joe Rogan he saw, he was like, huh?
joe rogan
All over your drawing face.
brian redban
He says, I drew this last year from Ari's seven minute shit sketch after failing horribly at a Joey drawing.
ari shaffir
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, it comes from a 30-frame comic called Ari Shafir's Shit Anal Lube.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Where he, you shit yourself and he fucks you.
ari shaffir
It's a longer piece.
It tells a lot about the world we live in.
joe rogan
It changes its meaning along the way, many times.
You gotta stay along for the ride to get the full heart.
ari shaffir
To get the full heart.
Are you really analubing me up?
Really just bathing me in it?
The care he takes in that really shows how a mother and child can really love each other.
joe rogan
There must be a guy out there somewhere.
You were talking about how you tore your penis because of a lack of lubrication.
ari shaffir
That's not a regular thing I've done, by the way.
joe rogan
Okay, it just happened.
It's no big deal, I understand.
I'm not judging you at all.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
But, with, like, someone with diarrhea, that'd probably be way more lubrication than normal.
ari shaffir
Way more lubrication.
joe rogan
Plus, the whole area would be super relaxed, all blown out.
I mean, it's just...
You just empty out...
From the diarrhea.
Empty out a fucking big gulp of...
Splattery diarrhea.
Had that little butthole.
ari shaffir
The unprocessed seeds that go on the sides.
joe rogan
The ends of hot dogs.
Twisty ends.
ari shaffir
I ate three times in Chinatown in San Francisco and I was shitting out full noodles.
Legit full noodles.
unidentified
Your body's like, nope, it's not food.
ari shaffir
Leaves, leaves I get, and peppers, but full noodles.
They were like the flakes of my finger.
Long ones.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Your body's like, uh, I'm not buying it, man.
I'm not fucking buying it.
ari shaffir
You call this food, we do not call this food.
Where do they get it?
joe rogan
Like, look, I am running this through all my fucking natural computers, and it's coming up negative.
Did you, is this gutter oil?
ari shaffir
Gutter oil.
joe rogan
Do they have that in Chinatown?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
joe rogan
Has it made its way?
ari shaffir
Dude, I want to hear you hear the sound of it plopping again.
joe rogan
I don't want to hear it, man.
ari shaffir
The plopping sound is what almost got you to bar.
I blame Jamie.
It's the second biggest fuck-up.
We're not continuing to play that plopping sound.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a dark, dark world.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's happening right now.
Somewhere in the world, someone's digging into a sewer and pulling out a big shovel full of shit.
ari shaffir
It's cheaper than buying it at the store.
Just doing this is cheaper than buying it at the store.
So we'd save money by doing this.
joe rogan
And look at the house that I bought.
If it wasn't for gutter oil, I couldn't have bought a house.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that lady built an empire on gutter oil.
joe rogan
Yeah, gutter oil empire.
This lady's like digging deep into that well.
ari shaffir
She owns a house in the People's Republic of China.
Is that right?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Somewhere.
Who knows what the fuck she actually said.
We're just reading what somebody translated.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's a great point.
She didn't talk any English at all.
joe rogan
Yeah, translations are terrible.
ari shaffir
Oh, maybe they didn't say any of that.
joe rogan
She might have said I was about to lose my house and my children would have died and everyone would have starved to death and I had to take shit oil.
unidentified
Ugh.
ari shaffir
People are eating it, though.
joe rogan
People are eating.
Not just people, like a lot of people, man.
ari shaffir
Regular people.
I eat street food.
I didn't eat street noodles, though.
But I eat street food.
joe rogan
But isn't it oil that they cook in?
Couldn't it be anything?
ari shaffir
Shut up!
Jesus.
unidentified
Yeah, probably.
ari shaffir
How many times do you eat street food?
The meat was great.
You just pointed a thing, it would cost one yen, which is about 16 cents, and it was three or four pieces of a meat.
And I don't know how to pronounce any meat or how to say any of them, so I'm like, I guess that's this.
One of those, please.
Two of these.
And if you ate it and you didn't like it, you just threw the thing out, because it was 15, 16 cents.
And you eat the next one, and you're like, this one tastes good.
joe rogan
What do you think it was?
ari shaffir
Lamb, chicken, dog, tail.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
Probably dog, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Dog is more of a Korean thing, they said.
joe rogan
Is it?
ari shaffir
They said you could find it in China, but it's not really around much.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
ari shaffir
But you know what?
I maybe not want dog even more than I might have wanted it before, just for the experience.
Is, you know how venison, they gotta clean...
Well, you probably know this.
They gotta kill it clean because it dumps the adrenaline.
And it kind of ruins the meat.
joe rogan
It doesn't really.
ari shaffir
Ever heard that?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's kind of...
ari shaffir
You ever heard that as a theory?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've heard it as a theory, but I don't think it's correct.
ari shaffir
With dog meat, it's the opposite.
They want the adrenaline.
So they beat on it for about two hours.
And smash the cage and stuff.
unidentified
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah, and then kill it.
For tastier meat.
I'm like, well, I'm out then.
Then I'm out.
There's no way.
I'm only gonna eat people meat.
I'm skipping over dog.
There's no fucking way.
joe rogan
Can I only eat racists?
ari shaffir
Yeah, this is purebid racist.
This guy lied.
He said he was racist, but some of these people were not.
joe rogan
I want a homophobe T-bone.
ari shaffir
Really revenge-worthy cut.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
unidentified
What dog would you eat if you had to choose one?
I'd go Retriever.
joe rogan
Golden Retriever.
No, they're too sweet.
ari shaffir
They're fluffy.
No, those fucking slobber dogs.
Get them out of the way.
joe rogan
I was at another restaurant, a fancy restaurant, and someone brought in a fucking emotional support dog.
A big fucking Labrador Retriever sat down next to them.
At a table while they're eating.
And everybody's like, you gotta be kidding me.
No, it's a clean dog.
ari shaffir
In Europe, everybody brings in some sort of restaurants.
joe rogan
Oh, we're not in Europe.
ari shaffir
No, we're not.
joe rogan
We're in motherfucking America.
unidentified
America.
joe rogan
How dare you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Tell them, Brian.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where are we from?
unidentified
We're from America.
joe rogan
Where are we from?
unidentified
America.
You ass of America.
joe rogan
America.
We don't bring our dogs.
Sit down next to our brunch.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they probably wasted that meat in fucking that oil.
joe rogan
Shit oil?
You're still on that, huh?
ari shaffir
Dude, I want to tell you something worse.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
How's that possible?
ari shaffir
I was on Big Jay's podcast, Legion of Skanks.
It's a morning zoo type thing.
They have fun.
Anyway, they've been opening up fan mail because they're getting started as a podcast.
They're super excited about the fan mail.
They open it up on the air and they read it.
And they got sent stuff.
One of the things they got sent was cookies.
Sugar cookies.
We had all gotten high and I was like, fuck yeah, give me that sugar cookie.
And then Jay was like, oh, maybe you shouldn't eat...
I mean, that was just from a fan.
I wouldn't necessarily eat.
I'm like, what's it gonna be?
Fucking weed cookie?
All the better.
Let's do this.
And he's like, no, Ari, we do, like, long segments about, like...
We've done long segments about, like, coming on food.
unidentified
Oh, God, dude.
ari shaffir
Like, we had, like, a whole fight about it a few weeks ago.
Like, how you can come on food and...
And then, like, make people eat it.
And then as a podcast, we're like, oh, yeah, definitely.
Yeah, I for sure ate somebody's cum.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
ari shaffir
Just a cum cookie.
joe rogan
That's not nice.
ari shaffir
No, it's not.
joe rogan
That's terrible.
ari shaffir
I was getting more nauseous as it went, but I was like, yeah, whatever.
unidentified
On the other podcast you do, you have like contests.
ari shaffir
Punch drunk?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
The bag of bets?
brian redban
Now, recently Josh Martin lost and you guys all had to come on a towel and he had to wash his face with this towel.
unidentified
Oh, that's cool.
ari shaffir
Same guy?
You half monkey astronaut, half Joe Rogan behind the stars?
unidentified
Same guy.
joe rogan
The same guy, yeah.
ari shaffir
Tomas, overbay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Overbay.
joe rogan
Dude, he's an amazing artist.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
He's amazing.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the bag of bets was if Sam Shipley came in the last two, it was a fantasy league.
And not only did he not come in the final two, he won the fantasy league.
So the loser has to take...
We all have to jizz onto a rag, and then they have to use that rag as their morning...
They have to reapply some moisture to reactivate the jizz.
joe rogan
Oh, my God!
unidentified
And Sir Josh Martin had to do this.
ari shaffir
And wipe their face with it.
joe rogan
So, were you allowed to wipe it off after you wipe your face with it?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you gotta wipe it off.
joe rogan
So you gotta do a little bit of wiping, and then you can wipe it off afterwards.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many days?
ari shaffir
What do you mean, how many days?
joe rogan
How many days do you have to do this for?
ari shaffir
Just once.
Just have to do it once.
unidentified
Okay.
ari shaffir
But reapply the water.
It's as if, you know, at the airport, on the plane's like...
Fresh towel?
You're like, oh, I'd love that.
I'd love that.
And then really get it in there.
Yeah, it's cum.
unidentified
Three people's cum.
ari shaffir
Three people's cum.
Bukkake on the rag.
It's bag of bets.
joe rogan
I'm more sad that three people can cum on a rag that easy.
It's that easy?
What is happening?
ari shaffir
We're going to separate it.
We're not going to stand around it.
unidentified
The third guy has an issue.
joe rogan
The third guy to come has a real issue.
The fact that he can still shoot a load on the dying loads of his two friends.
Who are you?
Who are you and what's getting you off?
How much is he knuckling his asshole?
Thumb deep in his ass.
ari shaffir
I'm going to get there, vigorously moving it, just shaking it as fast as I can.
unidentified
Has Josh already done this?
ari shaffir
No, we're doing the awards ceremony at the Comedy Store patio.
He's got to do it there in front of everybody.
joe rogan
Oh, Friday?
ari shaffir
We have all these bag of bets.
They're great.
joe rogan
Do they watch porn while they jerked off onto this thing, or do they just jerk off from memory?
ari shaffir
We just jerk off.
Whatever we want to do.
It's up to us.
Here's the rag now.
You go.
We had this bet where me and Tebow bet on a round of golf.
He was positive he could beat me.
and we put in there, loser has to watch every episode of Whitney.
unidentified
In a row.
ari shaffir
Write a book report about it.
unidentified
In a row.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I have to do it as sitting.
joe rogan
Write a book report about it.
ari shaffir
You have one day off in between seasons.
unidentified
Tebow had to do it, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, Whitney Cummings has this...
I don't want to tell you what the bit is about.
I don't want to give up any of it, but it is a murderous bit.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
She's got this bit that I've watched grow over the last three or four weeks.
ari shaffir
That's good.
joe rogan
It's murderous, dude.
She's been doing a lot of stand-up.
It's really interesting to see someone just really, like, catch momentum.
Really just, like, you see a bit.
ari shaffir
If she keeps working, there's no reason why she can't become a really, really, like, great comic.
joe rogan
Yeah, no doubt.
ari shaffir
I mean, you get the opportunity.
All these people that get the opportunity, like, will get you up, they usually just stop doing comedy.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, she does a lot.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's always on stage at the store.
I've followed her at the store like three or four times in a row.
I see her at the improv all the time.
That chick puts in work.
I respect the shit out of her.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
She is always doing stand-up.
And she's always, like, tweaking stuff and adding to stuff and changing stuff.
She takes chances.
She writes a lot.
ari shaffir
She moves forward.
It's the Whitney model I tell everybody about.
Move forward.
Go.
Do something.
Well, this podcast made it.
Just do it anyway.
Then it won't go anywhere.
Just do it.
What have you lost?
Nothing.
The time you're doing nothing.
Move forward.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Write a bit.
Make the short sketch.
Do something.
Just go.
joe rogan
She's a super likable person, too.
Like, in real life, when you talk to her, she's really friendly.
You know?
So it's like you want her to be really good, you know?
And now she's like...
I'll tell you off the air what this bit is, because I don't want to give up what the topic of the bit is.
God damn, it's hilarious.
She's funny, man.
This is a good time, dude.
I've been seeing so many funny guys that I didn't even know were around at the store recently.
I gotta start remembering people's names.
ari shaffir
Santino, Theo Vaughn is really funny.
Michael Costa.
joe rogan
This is the hidden gem.
This is the hidden gem of the Comedy Store.
This is the hidden gem of the Comedy Store.
It's the late night sets with either Brian Holtzman or Brody Stevens.
I have seen them for the past couple weeks.
I've stuck around and the last guy on stage in the main room does as long as they want.
And a lot of times they go on stage somewhere before 1am and they have an hour if they want to.
They can go all the way to 2am.
ari shaffir
There's anywhere between 60 and four people in the room.
joe rogan
So the show starts out, there's 300 plus people, the place is mobbed, everybody goes up, Chris D'Elia kills, ba-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da, and then it gets to the end, and then Brody Stevens goes up.
And Brody Stevens made...
I was fucking...
I was hyperventilating, crying, laughing, and slapping the table.
ari shaffir
That angry has...
You don't...
I'm watching you not laugh!
joe rogan
I push.
I push.
ari shaffir
You know who I am?
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I push.
joe rogan
Dude, those late...
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's like, where'd you go to school?
He'll tell you where he went to school.
If it's anywhere in Southern California, anywhere, he will tell you a Major League Baseball player who went there, and then he goes, I know him!
You're gonna treat me like that?
I'm friends with your highest honored person.
joe rogan
Arizona State.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Alumni.
ari shaffir
Two and one.
He'll always, like, shit on himself a little bit at the end.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Choked under pressure.
Choked during the big game.
ari shaffir
I'm on Lamictal.
It fucks with my body temperature.
joe rogan
Soloft didn't work for me.
I gotta move on.
I'd like to get off the meds.
He's fucking awesome.
His late night show the other night, it was not this past Friday night, but the one before.
ari shaffir
Late night set?
joe rogan
My God, man.
I was in awe.
ari shaffir
What'd he do?
joe rogan
Well, he's been doing so many warm-ups.
You know, he does warm-ups so much.
He's constantly used to just completely ad-libbing in front of, like, this group of people that's waiting for a television show to be filmed.
So there's, like, they'll film a segment.
They'll, all right, audience has to clap now.
And in between that, when they're setting things up.
Yeah, he does it for a lot of shows.
ari shaffir
I go out there early and watch him.
I was like, I just want to see you, Bernie.
joe rogan
He's fantastic at it.
But when he's so fantastic at it, one of the things he does is he has this incredible ability to make comedy out of nothing.
Anything that's going on.
Like, he's completely free.
Like, his ability to ad-lib is like no one's.
Like, his ability to, like, move into the crowd and just start bringing everybody together and pulling, like, little things that he said to this person, to that person.
Like, he's so used to being free when he's doing those warm-up things.
Like, constantly on, just free-flowing back and forth.
Stay together, people.
We're working here.
We're pushing.
I push.
I'm from the valley.
unidentified
Okay?
joe rogan
818 till I die.
You know, but he can do that in that rhythm with that sort of...
He's so good.
unidentified
His intensity...
ari shaffir
Usually two warm guys are either rah-rah-rah or they just can't do the warm-up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dude, he's a monster.
He was murdering the other night.
I mean, fucking murdering.
unidentified
This is something Eddie found the other day, Eddie Ift.
brian redban
This is what Brody used to send out to managers and comedy clubs and stuff like that.
unidentified
And it's a VHS tape.
ari shaffir
Personality, human, 27 years of experience.
Trust me, I understand comedy.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Man, you're a friend.
joe rogan
He's so awesome.
I'm such a huge Brody fan.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he makes late nights fun, especially when you're stoned.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And then you just like go in there and just laugh.
And the crowd's like half full, so it's like, oh, this is great.
Holtzman almost had me barf once.
I was laughing so hard.
I was almost like, it was like only that and Jackats 2, where I was like, I just couldn't barely hold it.
joe rogan
Those two guys, if you ever see them on the lineup at the Comedy Store, please go for the late night aspect of them.
I mean, go for the whole show, but stick around to the end.
ari shaffir
Here's when the story gets cool.
It's actually when you're out, you're done out, you're finished, you're drunk.
It's midnight.
Should we go home?
It's like, no, midnight's at 2. It's this kind of raw, jazzy environment at the store.
So just head into the store and sober up there.
They'll probably let you in for free.
Almost always.
Unless it's still packed on a weekend or something.
unidentified
Last night there was a million dollar car there, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah, parked up front.
Porsche fucking testers.
joe rogan
Yeah, Porsche 918. They were testing it?
ari shaffir
It was all these Porsche guys with Porsche jackets.
And there was a car ahead of them too with a Porsche, a nice Porsche.
joe rogan
Oh, I wonder if they like...
ari shaffir
I think it was a prototype.
joe rogan
Well, no, it's a car that's available.
It's called a 918. It's this incredible car.
ari shaffir
$875,000 sticker value.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that's if you can get one.
They're all spoken for.
So you'd have to pay some sort of premium.
Yeah, you'd probably have to pay over a million dollars.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And it'd be worth it too.
ari shaffir
Parked at a meter on Sunset.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
That's a million dollars.
ari shaffir
I touched it.
joe rogan
While people were texting.
ari shaffir
With my dick.
What?
unidentified
What?
Yeah.
joe rogan
People are texting and barely paying attention.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
You know?
And this car's parked on the side of the road.
ari shaffir
Parked right there.
It's a million dollars.
Yeah, we were like then, and Simone's like, hey, look at that car.
We're like, what?
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I saw a Veyron once in Hollywood, which is even more expensive.
A Bugatti.
Bugatti Veyron.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Which is one of the fastest cars in the world.
This big, giant spaceship-looking thing.
And that's more than a million.
ari shaffir
Wow!
joe rogan
That's like a million and a half or something.
ari shaffir
Yeah, there it is.
brian redban
The only thing is, like, when they open the doors, I was really expecting, like, this really cool door thing that would, like, go back and then up or something.
unidentified
But it was just, like, this little door.
ari shaffir
Regular door.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, Porsche is, like, the best.
They're the best designers in terms of, like, the right compromise between, like, ridiculous speed and power and handling and also, like, efficiency.
ari shaffir
It's a hybrid car.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's also like just the way they don't make things that are too extravagant.
They don't make like Lamborghini Countaches, you know, they're like this big ridiculous fire-breathing cars.
Like if they make a car, like the width, it's all about the engineering of the car.
It's like how fast can we get this car?
Like what is the best way to stick to the road?
Yeah, if they're making something like this.
But it's interesting because they're stuck with this 911, and that's the car that has the engine in the back.
It's really not the best way to do it.
You're not really supposed to have an engine in the back.
It becomes unbalanced.
It swings back and forth.
ari shaffir
So why do they just put it in the front?
joe rogan
Because they started out doing it that way back when they didn't know any better.
ari shaffir
Only for the 911?
joe rogan
Yeah, and then they've sort of stuck with it because it's become a characteristic of the 911. Wow.
unidentified
Is this the kind of car that Paul Walker died in?
Like, this kind of, like, horsepower?
joe rogan
No.
Well, more horsepower.
But his was a Carrera GT. And the issue with Paul Walker's car, everybody's like, well, the car was, like, really dangerous.
Like, no.
It was not that dangerous.
According to everybody that I've talked to that's a car expert and it's not coming from me.
Chris Harris told me.
Matt Farah told me.
The real issue was that the car itself had been on the same tires for a long time.
Like seven, eight years.
They get hard and they have no grip.
And you have amazing horsepower and you're treating the car as if it's like a car with current tires on it.
Car tires actually harden and dry up.
ari shaffir
You sound like the guys, when you're saying that though, you sound like the guys who were defending pit bulls in like the 80s.
joe rogan
It's not, but it's not, I know like high horsepower cars, like it's a really high horsepower car, but it's not so high horsepower that it would be dangerous.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, like, I drove a car...
ari shaffir
I never heard it was dangerous.
I just heard it was going way too fast and crash.
unidentified
I heard it's hard to drive.
joe rogan
People have crashed...
Well, it's a mid-engine car.
It's got a really good balance, but it's really powerful.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I'm a race car driver.
You can't go so fast.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
And it doesn't have the same sort of, like, traction-based technology that they have in 2015. We have these weird, like, traction control, like, computers built in.
They know when one tire is, like, losing traction.
They compensate with the other side.
They brake on one side to keep things moving.
unidentified
Look at his old phone.
joe rogan
I know.
It's amazing.
You don't even have Bluetooth in your car.
You son of a...
ari shaffir
This has Bluetooth?
I don't have a car.
joe rogan
Ari Shafir, for folks who don't know what we're talking about, has gone completely back to the flip phone.
I like it.
ari shaffir
Pros and cons.
joe rogan
Okay.
Pros.
ari shaffir
Pros?
They're few and far between.
One pro is I have to charge it every three and a half days.
Obviously the reason why is because you can't do anything worth draining it for.
joe rogan
That's undeniable, Pro.
ari shaffir
You don't have to charge it.
That's great.
Two, you can do ignore without saying no on somebody.
Remember that on the old phones?
We could just stop the ringer without saying off.
The iPhone never did.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can do that.
ari shaffir
They finally got that?
unidentified
Oh yeah, they've had it for a while.
You just hit the volume button down or up.
ari shaffir
And then I'll just silence it and let it keep ringing.
But you can't stop ringing, but not...
You can't go back to what you're doing.
You have to wait for it to finish ringing, right?
Before you can go back to your text and shit?
joe rogan
Uh, yes.
Yeah.
Like, as far as declining it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you want to pretend that you're not ignoring that call, yeah.
Just stop pretending.
unidentified
Stop pretending.
ari shaffir
Like, I'm doing something.
joe rogan
I don't feel...
I do not get upset when people send me the voicemail.
ari shaffir
Really?
You're like, oh, you were doing something.
joe rogan
So please do it.
Please send me the voicemail for a goof.
ari shaffir
I can't wait to send you the voicemail now.
joe rogan
Let me tell you this right now.
For every time you send me the voicemail, send me another time to voicemail and avoid sending Joey Diaz to voicemail because he will burn your soul.
ari shaffir
You've got to be like, Joey, I can't talk right now.
I'm getting married.
I'll talk to you later.
Okay, bye.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't do that.
You've got to answer and you've got to talk to him.
ari shaffir
Now the cons.
joe rogan
Hey, cocksucker.
I'm loving your fucking voicemail right now.
ari shaffir
Where have you been all day?
I don't know, man.
It's been 30 minutes.
unidentified
Relax.
joe rogan
It's 11 a.m.
unidentified
How's that camera, though?
That camera has to be amazing.
ari shaffir
It's great, man.
It's over one megapixel.
It's 1.3.
I don't even use the camera.
And when I get text messages that have picture messages, if it's any, like, look at this bet I made on a fight or something, I have to forward that to my email.
And look at it on computer because I just can't see it.
joe rogan
And then you have to do it forwarding on your computer from your phone to your computer.
You have to do that all by pressing like...
ari shaffir
Individual buttons.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
ari shaffir
I mean, to hit an S or to hit the number 7, you've got to go 10 times because you're going to overpass the first time.
You forgot about that.
brian redban
I think it doesn't get messages also because I think I've sent you stuff before and you'd probably just never received.
joe rogan
Well, you probably have that.
ari shaffir
Here, Sam Shibley just sent me a picture.
How do you enjoy that?
unidentified
For the people listening, it's about 40 pixels.
ari shaffir
I don't even know what it is.
unidentified
It's like a...
joe rogan
I don't even know what it is.
That could be anything.
ari shaffir
Oh, my God.
Is it like Times Square?
Is it a funeral?
unidentified
Is it people?
ari shaffir
Might be mushrooms.
joe rogan
It's war!
Aliens have landed!
unidentified
Now, Ari, is it annoying, though?
Like, if you're driving, you're like, shit, I'm fucking lost.
ari shaffir
Oh, he said Barnett after Ohio State won the game.
Josh Barnett after Ohio State won the game, maybe?
I don't know.
unidentified
What?
But, like, if you're driving somewhere late at night, you're lost.
ari shaffir
Gone.
unidentified
Gone.
ari shaffir
Okay.
Also, so, yeah.
Can't.
No GPS. That's terrible.
But, I already have found two new train routes that I didn't really know would work perfectly.
In the six days I was off at New York, I was like, oh, the six train goes in here and here?
Oh, I could just take this.
unidentified
You know they have the app that tells you that on Google Maps?
ari shaffir
It tells you what it tells you, but it never tells me to take the six train, and it's right there.
unidentified
It shows you off.
ari shaffir
It didn't tell me that.
I'm telling you, I've been there for a while, and it would never show me that.
And I'm like, oh, I can take this.
I don't understand.
Oh, this one connects.
I understand the map better, because you have to look and see what connects to what.
So when you miss your train, if you stop and tie your shoes and miss the one train, and you can't get a signal underground, instead of being fucked, like, which train can I take?
Like, oh, any of these.
The R, the N, the Q, these all go there.
And you can figure it out by learning the maths, which you don't do when you have it on your phone at all times.
unidentified
Sound recorder?
Non-existent.
ari shaffir
No.
I have to open it up.
Keep it in my pocket.
Open.
Because if you close it, it's done.
unidentified
So you're going to go back to an iPhone 6 tonight?
Gold one?
ari shaffir
No, I'm not.
I'm way more present.
I'm more social.
Instantly.
unidentified
I look at my surroundings more.
ari shaffir
That part is all carry forward as is.
And trust me, right now is the worst time for me to do this.
joe rogan
Why is that?
ari shaffir
Because I've got a special I'm trying to promote coming out Friday.
Comedy Central at midnight.
I've got my storytellers coming out a week from Thursday.
That's starting.
joe rogan
Why don't you make a statement out there to all the technophiles and perhaps techno junkies, shall we say?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
People said they couldn't live without it, but it's like, this is what we lived at seven years ago.
You can't live without...
You can't possibly live without you...
What you lived with seven years ago?
joe rogan
Do you feel like your life has been enriched by abandoning the smartphone?
ari shaffir
Yeah, a little bit.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Here's the deal.
We haven't tested it yet.
We haven't tested what the etiquette is.
The only reason people don't text while they drive anymore is because they had to make a law against it.
Otherwise, people just would.
So the idea that everyone will control it the right amount of time is sort of ridiculous.
They won't.
They've proven not to.
The battery on the iPhone 3 was minuscule compared to what the iPhone 6 is.
And it lasts the same amount of time because we're on the phone way more.
joe rogan
I was going to say that you should have like a phone, like a regular phone, and then an iPhone to do like social media type shit.
ari shaffir
Yeah, like an iPod.
joe rogan
You have to do it.
ari shaffir
Then the problem is two hours in bed every morning before you get out of bed.
joe rogan
I was going to say, that's your issue, right?
You get sucked into the web.
ari shaffir
You get sucked in.
And people say, well, just don't use it.
Well, it's been five years.
joe rogan
Welcome back to us, honey.
ari shaffir
We have apps.
I get it.
Yeah, it's great.
They're great.
They're great.
It's just too much.
unidentified
I think for your job and everything, you need it.
ari shaffir
No, people just say you need it.
I tweet from my phone.
I can Instagram from my computer.
You say you need it, but do you need things?
joe rogan
Wait a minute, you can Instagram from your computer?
ari shaffir
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
I didn't know you could do that.
ari shaffir
It's an app.
joe rogan
Oh, that's interesting.
I've only used, like, the web browser.
ari shaffir
So then you can, like, change shit on computers, stuff you can't do, like, on your phone, and then, like, update it right there.
Put memes in yourself.
joe rogan
I'll have to check it out.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
No, you would like that anyway.
But, but, like, uh...
I just don't...
joe rogan
You just don't trust yourself.
ari shaffir
And also I see it on elevators.
The doors close.
Everyone gets out like that.
People don't even look at each other.
I walk down the street in New York.
I go 10 blocks in one of the most exciting cities in the world.
And I haven't looked at my surroundings at all.
I just haven't even had any new input.
And you get connected with everyone.
There is that, but you're connected really with the circle you're already in, friendship-wise, so then you don't make new connections.
You're like, yeah, I can connect with this friend.
I'll tell him how he is on Facebook or whatever, on text.
And then there's no reason.
Your body doesn't make you, like, say, oh, hey, you reading that book?
I read that.
It's a good book.
Everyone just shuts in.
They just go to their phone.
You can't bother somebody on the phone.
unidentified
Somewhere Dana White's just going like a teardrop.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I found out Dana White did it.
I mean, I knew Attel used a flip phone, and I was like, well, that makes sense.
But then Louie was like, yeah, I went to 102. I was like, no way, really?
I mean, you got a lot of shit going on.
And then when I found out Dana White...
joe rogan
Louie went to a flip phone?
ari shaffir
I found out Dana White did it too, and I'm like, god damn.
joe rogan
Dana White has never moved from a flip phone.
Dana White is so good with his flip phone, he can send you a message while looking right in your eyes.
He knows exactly what button to press.
ari shaffir
He said all sorts of people are doing it.
I asked him about it.
He said all sorts of people are doing it.
He's like more and more like people that are like winning in life, like doing shit.
joe rogan
This is how easily influenced I am.
I'm ready to switch.
ari shaffir
I mean, here's the deal.
There's growing pains.
There's growing pains.
The first day you're like, I need it.
But that's what happens when you quit caffeine.
You're fucking, you got headaches.
joe rogan
Fascinating.
unidentified
I think if you have an iPad mini, it's totally do that.
There's no reason to do it.
joe rogan
Brian's like, I think if you have a 42-inch screen that's on a wheel, it rolls in front of you everywhere you go, like handlebars.
unidentified
Well, I think nowadays it's great safety.
ari shaffir
Snapchat, half of them is just to get laid.
Half of those things are just like instruments of sex.
unidentified
GPS. How dare you.
It's true.
ari shaffir
I mean, the reason I have a Facebook fan page at all is because some woman wrote me that once, wrote me on there once, and pretty much laid it out there.
She wanted to hook up.
And I was like, damn it, I missed it.
It's already gone from the city.
Then I check it every two days.
Won't go without checking it again.
Because of that one time!
joe rogan
All right, it's going to be okay.
ari shaffir
Anyway, it's been pretty cool.
I'm okay with it.
GPS sits weird.
Uber's tough.
You can only Uber away.
You can't Uber back.
So in a city like this where I don't have a car...
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What do you mean you can only Uber away?
ari shaffir
I took the bus for the first time.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
ari shaffir
Uber from my computer.
joe rogan
Oh, and then getting back home was difficult.
ari shaffir
Because you can't get back home.
joe rogan
You took the what from the where?
ari shaffir
I took the bus from the doctor's office.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you saying to me?
ari shaffir
I was like, what bus goes here?
I just looked and I was like, oh, that goes right by the Beverly Hills.
joe rogan
Like a regular bus in Los Angeles, California?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I take it twice.
First of all, the first time, everyone's like, it's all Mexican.
The first time there was two black people.
There was a couple from Australia, two white people, and maybe like six or seven Mexicans, but it was other people too.
And then the second time I took it, they were full-on homeless people on there.
It was pretty disgusting.
unidentified
So Tinder's probably impossible.
ari shaffir
Tinder is impossible.
But a Tinder I deleted from my phone nine times anyway.
joe rogan
Nine times.
ari shaffir
Like Duncan was with World of Warcraft.
I'm like, I can't anymore.
I got nothing out of it.
I'll delete it.
And then like a month later, I'm like, oh, I just did Tinder.
They don't have any apps that really limit your app use.
joe rogan
Yeah, they do.
ari shaffir
No, they have apps that tell you, you're at your two hours, and then you're like, ignore, keep going.
joe rogan
Well, you can always shut it off, Ari.
unidentified
No, you can't.
joe rogan
You can always go deep into your settings and say, fuck you.
You can always double tap on that bottom button and delete those bitches.
ari shaffir
But then you just read, get them immediately.
unidentified
Maybe.
ari shaffir
What do you mean?
That's so easy to do.
joe rogan
When you need to learn how to have a little discipline in your life.
Maybe.
ari shaffir
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And not stop blaming it on iPhones.
ari shaffir
I got rid of cable for the same reason 10 years ago.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Again.
Nothing wrong with cable, boy.
You know what's better for cable?
unidentified
You can't do that.
joe rogan
It's better to have cable than to not have cable.
ari shaffir
Why?
joe rogan
Okay?
You don't have to watch cable if you have cable.
unidentified
I do.
joe rogan
You have to constantly be glued to the fucking television.
ari shaffir
God, it's a sickness.
It's always on.
unidentified
You can get away from it.
joe rogan
Brian, come on.
unidentified
You can't do that.
ari shaffir
That's ruining Tinder.
Now girls don't see it as a real match when you actually do match because you're fucking idiots.
You're just like, like, liking all day.
It should be something special that once you do like each other, now they're like, wow, this guy's interested in me.
Now they don't even know that.
Because of you guys that are always liking everything.
You and Pete Davidson and all these guys.
Like, like, like, like.
Just have a little class with it.
joe rogan
Nope.
ari shaffir
It's a fuck site.
unidentified
Just have a little bit of class and we can all have a nice fuck site.
ari shaffir
You're ruining it with your fucking lack of patience.
joe rogan
Is it ruining it talking about it right now?
ari shaffir
No, it's a great site.
joe rogan
But is it possible?
unidentified
It's not underground.
ari shaffir
It's ruining it talking about it?
joe rogan
Is it ruining it talking about it?
unidentified
You did way more damage than I did.
ari shaffir
Stop swiping like.
unidentified
The benefit of just accepting everybody is it's better odds.
What are you doing?
joe rogan
You're sticking it right in front of our faces.
What are you talking about?
You were interrupting the conversation.
ari shaffir
Trying to blame it on me.
unidentified
How dare you?
joe rogan
How dare you?
ari shaffir
I love when you can only hear a laugh, and when someone knows, they've been like, oh yeah, good point.
That kind of laugh.
unidentified
My point was just trying to show you that you can't do Tinder.
I mean, there has to be so many things that you are actually missing.
ari shaffir
That I'm so addicted to.
Tinder is one of the best examples of why I should not have a phone.
It's garbage.
It's awful.
It takes all your time.
unidentified
Alright, what if something crazy happens, like, you know, like, terrorists?
ari shaffir
Let's talk about it.
Let's hear it, yeah.
brian redban
And you are, like, you know, walking in a park, and you hear all these explosions, people screaming, you go to your phone, and you're text-based, I don't know.
ari shaffir
Everyone's gonna go to their phone!
Somebody's gonna be like, it's the fucking terrorists!
They say run that way!
Okay?
You probably checked your phone!
Run that way, you say?
Fine!
I'm not going to wait and fucking enter into my fucking search engine.
joe rogan
Well, you will be so easy to deceive.
ari shaffir
That's what everybody does.
When they show up their apps, everyone's like, no, let me do it on my app.
Let me get the Google search.
joe rogan
So easy to deceive.
ari shaffir
So easy.
I'll go down fast.
joe rogan
They're going to pull up the wrong website.
They're going to stick it in your face.
unidentified
You didn't snopes it.
joe rogan
It's going to be one of those, like, Onion-type websites.
ari shaffir
You didn't snopes it.
Yeah.
unidentified
You just see Ari running.
joe rogan
You're running the wrong way.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no dragons.
ari shaffir
You're freaking out.
joe rogan
They use your footage for their documentary of suckers.
unidentified
These are dummies without Google.
joe rogan
Watch what happens to them.
Keep Google in your life.
unidentified
You're on a road trip.
You're on the road doing a gig and you rent a car.
ari shaffir
Give me a better example.
unidentified
And you rent a car.
ari shaffir
Yeah, with the GPS in it.
Yeah.
unidentified
Say I didn't have GPS. They all have it now if I rent a car.
You get lost.
It's four in the morning.
You get completely lost.
Your car runs.
ari shaffir
Then I'll do what I did in high school.
And I'll find my way home.
It'll be such a fun adventure.
It'll be such a fun adventure trying to find your way home.
We used to do it all the time.
unidentified
I would just let myself get lost on purpose.
ari shaffir
God, it was fun.
You learn your surroundings that way?
You really see a city?
joe rogan
That seems like a terrible suggestion.
Get lost on purpose.
unidentified
I get it.
ari shaffir
When I was in Shanghai and I had the fucking GPS telling me exactly which public transportation direction to get there.
That's amazing.
That's awesome.
And I'll miss that.
unidentified
I might get a GPS. How about you just have a little discipline, boy, and let us have our fucking iPhone?
joe rogan
Your texting sucks.
Your voice quality sucks.
That's a shackle, son.
That's a technological shackle.
ari shaffir
I'll tell you what I found really interesting.
And also, by the way, you can watch my special on your iPhones.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't watch it on a flip phone.
ari shaffir
No, you cannot watch it on my phone.
Please do not watch it on my flip phone.
The reaction people give me to me saying, I'm just doing this for a while, is really similar to the reaction smokers give when you say I'm quitting smoking, when pill poppers give when you say I'm done with pills or alcohol.
It's real similar.
People react sort of viscerally.
They get angry at you.
joe rogan
I'm feeling that right now.
ari shaffir
You are.
You're getting mad.
Not so much you.
We're all talking.
What are you doing?
Stop that!
It's like, why do you care so much?
joe rogan
Well, people that have addictions, like if you're a coffee drinker and you go to have coffee with your friends every morning...
unidentified
I don't do coffee, yeah.
joe rogan
But if you did.
ari shaffir
Right, but when I say, no, I don't do that, then they go...
joe rogan
No, but I'm saying, what I'm saying is if a guy just quit on you, stopped drinking coffee, and you meet every day, like, you're not going to have coffee?
No, I don't want to.
I'm going to have a water.
Oh, boy, you're too good for coffee?
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Come on, have a fucking coffee.
What are we doing having coffee?
But it's like, come on, you're getting rid of your iPhone?
Dude, we have iPhones.
ari shaffir
We have iPhones.
joe rogan
That's what we do.
Don't fuck this up.
I want to be able to Google.
I want to be just like you.
ari shaffir
I love it.
I love Googling.
joe rogan
I want an Uber.
Back and forth.
Back and forth.
ari shaffir
It's like pros and cons.
They outweigh each other.
I'm gonna try this way for a little bit.
joe rogan
Why don't you just try this?
ari shaffir
This is just.
This is just.
Why don't you just?
This is just.
joe rogan
Why don't you try this?
Why don't you try going back to an iPhone like a fucking human?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then this is the move.
This is the move.
Just write a rule.
Write a rule where you can't look at your phone all day.
ari shaffir
I had one where I was like, I won't even, I won't check it until I go, just let me go to a coffee shop, which is like a block away from me in New York.
Let me just go outside and then I can check it all from there.
And I was like, well, let me check once before I go out.
joe rogan
Give yourself three points in the day where you're allowed to text message.
ari shaffir
Are you going to check text messages?
Can I translate that for you?
Are you going to tell him that about cigarettes?
joe rogan
I'm not telling him about it.
ari shaffir
You only get three cigarettes, but then that's a good way to do it?
joe rogan
You know dogs that eat out of the litter box?
ari shaffir
He's one of those.
joe rogan
And you yell at them a couple of times and you keep catching them fucking...
Torso deep into a litter box.
Chewing on cat shit.
Those dogs are always going to eat cat shit.
Why aren't they like it?
You've got to leave them alone.
ari shaffir
But a smoker, are you going to tell them to smoke three a day?
joe rogan
I can't tell him that.
ari shaffir
But I can tell you that.
But you wouldn't tell me to smoke three a day.
joe rogan
I would not tell you to smoke any cigarettes at all.
Because that's going to give you cancer.
But I don't think the cell phone is going to give you cancer if you check your text messages three times a day.
ari shaffir
But it won't just be that.
You're right there.
joe rogan
Well, if you only give yourself three strikes.
ari shaffir
Carry around a pack of cigarettes in your pocket and say don't smoke any.
joe rogan
Give yourself three strikes always.
ari shaffir
Dude, they have these programs that you can say.
It lights up so you've gone over your hour.
unidentified
I'm a man.
ari shaffir
Internet use.
joe rogan
I'm a man.
I don't need no fucking program.
Just tell yourself.
ari shaffir
I don't really think I need any of those things besides text and email.
Not text and email.
Text and phone.
unidentified
Do you still have a CompuServe email address?
ari shaffir
My agents, I tell them, like, if you need me to follow up with something right away, you're going to have to just call me or text me and say, hey, I sent you an email.
Check that.
Because business-wise, they always feel like that anyway.
Like, how can you ever check that email?
I'm like, I don't know.
It's been four hours.
joe rogan
Right.
They want you to be checking your email all day long.
ari shaffir
You're in an office.
I'm not.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And it's weird that they don't want to talk to you on phone.
Just call you.
Just say, Ari, listen.
You've got to listen to this.
It's a new offer coming in.
They want you to shave your beard.
unidentified
Porn.
ari shaffir
I get it, man.
Yeah, porn.
I gotta drag my whole fucking laptop over my bed like a goddamn fucking...
unidentified
Savage.
joe rogan
Cave person.
ari shaffir
Like an asshole.
What do you do with it when you're done?
You can't just fucking...
God, it's awful.
joe rogan
The battery runs out so quick.
ari shaffir
The battery runs out.
joe rogan
Poor Ari.
ari shaffir
It's not like...
I think it's great for that.
joe rogan
Damn, it feels good to be a gangster.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ari Shafir giving as little fucks as possible, slinging some 1996 technology.
ari shaffir
So Adam Eby says, like, do you have a special and a show coming out?
Why do you have a flip phone?
unidentified
It seems like that's not even the best one you can get.
ari shaffir
Oh, no.
I researched it.
It's pretty good.
joe rogan
Damn, it feels good to be a gangster.
ari shaffir
This one's one of the better ones.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
300 contacts.
Yeah, I didn't realize that would be an issue until it was like, no fucking way, some of these are 100 contacts.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you gotta decide.
joe rogan
This one has 300, so that's good.
ari shaffir
300 plus, I think.
joe rogan
You don't need 300. Dude, it's like for phone calls, for calling people, pretty fucking dope.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you get right up to your ear.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Does it have Bluetooth?
ari shaffir
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
It does.
So does it sync up with a car?
Have you done that yet?
ari shaffir
No, but I could, but I don't drive.
But I Bluetooth it from the other phone.
joe rogan
Where do they fit it?
Between the battery and all the phone shit.
But when you think about it, man, like, there's something satisfying about, like, going, well, you know?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, hanging up just like that.
It does feel good.
That part feels good.
That's a pro.
joe rogan
All right, take care, man.
ari shaffir
Slight pro.
joe rogan
That's pretty dope.
ari shaffir
I'm sure you get a case that would do that.
They should have that for iPhone cases.
unidentified
They did.
ari shaffir
It's a slap shot.
joe rogan
And there's no, like, pocket calls or stupid shit.
There's no pocket texting or you open up and your phone's on Spotify.
ari shaffir
There's a lot of unexpected things.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
What is that?
How did it do that?
My dick's trying to make a call.
unidentified
Thanks.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is pretty dumb, dude.
I would have to have a phone, too.
ari shaffir
When I went and started doing way more sets in New York, doing three or four at night, my body reacted weird after a while.
I was like, oh, I think there's too many spots.
Because I was, like, not really getting the most out of them.
And then I just overcame that, like, learning curve.
And I was like, oh, actually, okay.
If I just gear up for it, this is fine.
But it just felt too many because it was twice or three times as many I was getting before.
You know?
But then it was like, had to get used to it, and now it's like, cool, I like that.
And now if I have one spot at night in New York, it's like, oh, come on, that's, are we wasting it?
joe rogan
Oh, that's interesting.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
So a lot of these, with this phone, where it's like, oh, I gotta have that.
It's like, easy, get over it.
Just like cigarette urges, where it's like, if you wait 10 minutes before smoking, that's a good way to quit smoking.
If you wait 10 minutes every time you have an urge.
And then if you still have the urge, go for it.
unidentified
Yeah, but to me, it's like promoting shows.
I'm like, oh, I need to promote shows while I'm on the road.
You know, I'm like going to get something to eat.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I definitely got to be better about doing that for my computer.
But you can time tweets out from Hootsuite.
Real easy.
unidentified
Yeah, but sometimes, you know.
ari shaffir
Yeah, sometimes, sure.
And then there's sometimes you write a whole bit because you're meeting someone and you're not in your phone checking your fucking Instagram.
And you have a bit about that meeting.
I mean, you said it.
You've seen all the people on stage doing jokes about apps.
It's non-stop.
That's everybody's life.
unidentified
I guess I use my phone for way more than just Twitter.
ari shaffir
But you also use it for way more than just work.
unidentified
Yeah.
But I mean, I'm using it as my voice recorder on stage.
I'm using it for my ways on the way home here to see which way I should drive home so I'm not wasting an extra hour in traffic.
ari shaffir
Right, right, right.
unidentified
You know, there's just so many, like, little things that...
Like, I mean, do we eat 24?
So when I get home, there's going to be food waiting for me.
You know, there's so many little things that, you know...
joe rogan
Yeah, but you don't have a problem with being addicted to your phone.
It doesn't freak you out.
I think what Ari's doing is...
ari shaffir
I didn't like what life was becoming.
joe rogan
You're trying to optimize the way you think, and you're trying to optimize where you focus your attention on.
And you felt like you were spending too much time just staring at a little device, and it was taking away from the way you think, taking away from the way you interact with people.
ari shaffir
Yeah, totally.
Totally taken away from the way I interact with people.
Absolutely, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, just saying that, you saying that, and, you know, taking it into consideration, it made me reconsider it.
ari shaffir
There's this etiquette that's evolving with it now, where people are on it during dinner a lot, you know?
And then it's like, well, we don't know if you're supposed to or not, because it's such a fast-changing thing that we haven't built a fucking, a way of, a manner system around it.
So we're developing it now, you know?
It's becoming more and more like, put your phone away, it's dinner time.
right you know right right but it's like we have to develop we don't know it's just getting it's busier and busier and all the time and yeah it takes you away from who who you're around isn't that what hipsters say isn't that what the whole thing that a hipster is what it's like against the you know that's not hipster yeah it is what's the term of hipster right that's exactly the term of it against the norm what are you thinking about goths also and about like all those groups are against like the norm Yeah, I mean, hipsters are just one of those groups that's sort of...
Hipsters are just uber fashionable.
joe rogan
Well, they're just fighting against what they think is like a staid and boring standard.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
But yeah, fighting against the currently accepted dress codes and all that shit.
Wearing cardigans.
ari shaffir
There's something to like, you know how when you're on stage and you can't think of a joke and you're just like doing it anyway but you need an ending and the panic in your mind will force you to create an ending right then?
unidentified
Sometimes, yeah.
ari shaffir
If you don't have your phone to go to when you're in an uncomfortable social situation, you'll feel that uncomfort level for a while and then your body will like, I don't like feeling this way.
So instead of going to my phone, that was a way out.
Now it's like, oh hey, you're a Raiders fan too?
Yeah, I fucking, man, whatever.
I had some good years there.
Whatever it is.
Just something to get out of this uncomfortable thing.
I just met somebody and hung out with them and tried to make a new friend.
joe rogan
And they're on Uber all day.
ari shaffir
Yeah, or you're on Uber.
joe rogan
Instagram and I'm a storm.
Facebooking up the place.
ari shaffir
Just following those cars.
joe rogan
Tweeting up a storm and Facebooking up the joint.
unidentified
I can see it, girl.
ari shaffir
Facebook offers nothing to your life anymore.
joe rogan
But it does, if you like Facebook.
God.
For some people, Facebook is their life.
ari shaffir
It's like their community of friends of friends that you're like, I don't even know most of these people.
Most people don't know most of their Facebook friends.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
Have no memory.
They have to really think hard.
And they're just an online community.
I don't know.
It's okay.
unidentified
It's cool.
ari shaffir
That part's cool.
But then you're missing other parts.
joe rogan
What do you think about the potential for virtual realities online?
Have you ever talked to Duncan about this?
ari shaffir
Yeah, he may show me his Oculus game.
joe rogan
Have you seen the new version or the old version?
ari shaffir
No, I saw one from like a few months ago.
joe rogan
Yeah, I haven't seen the new one either.
But he called me at the improv one night with fever depression.
Pitching his voice, man!
It's a fucking game changer, man!
Dude, this is fucking bigger than the internet!
This is bigger than space travel!
This is bigger than anything!
He told me about this Oculus Rift where this guy goes into this room and it's all in like 4K HD and he said you really feel like you're in this room and you walk up to a piano and you interact with this guy that's at the piano and he's like it is a mind fuck.
He said it's so stunning and so realistic that it just makes you realize oh my god this is like If technology, inevitably, we all agree, is going to continue to get better.
I mean, we've all experienced nothing but that in our life.
There's been some bottlenecks along the way, but people always figure out some new power source or some new battery supply.
People figure out how to get...
People, unlike any of us in this room, right?
They figure out how to get through that shit.
We assume that they're going to keep doing that.
And if they keep doing that, if they're at that now, in 2015, this insanely fucking rich, high-definition, Oculus Rift where you're looking around, it almost feels like you're in the room.
Apparently, the way they filmed it, they put cameras all over the guy.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, like, everywhere you look, like, they have, like, an image for that.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Like, you can look down, you can look up, you can look at the sky, you can walk through the room and look behind you.
Like, you're walking into it like it's a three-dimensional environment.
And they're going to be able to do that with these, they have these, like, circular treadmills.
They're 3D treadmills.
ari shaffir
So it's like the holosuite from Star Wars, Star Trek.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
You're just running around in these things.
You put the headgear on, and you run around on this multi-directional treadmill.
The treadmill goes left and right and back and forth, and as you're moving around on it, eventually you get a groove with what you're seeing in your headset and what you're feeling when you're running around, and you're running through this artificial world.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
This is gonna get really intense, man.
ari shaffir
Yeah, then what are the long-term effects of that?
And short-term, it's like, oh, I don't know.
But long-term is something different, too.
How does it feel once you...
The kids today, like your kids...
unidentified
A lot of people get sick from it, though.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, it's nausea.
That's what they kept saying in South Park, too.
It's like, I'm kind of nauseous.
joe rogan
Yeah, some people have a really hard time with car sickness and shit.
ari shaffir
It's not quite even with it.
You don't know which way it's going, or you look down, and it looks a little bit less down than you're looking.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, I have one and it kind of makes me, after like a good three minutes, I'm like, alright, I gotta take it off.
ari shaffir
Because it didn't read your eyeballs.
So if you look down, then you look into there, but then you look further down with your eyeballs, you know?
But it just reads that your head is going down.
unidentified
Hmm.
ari shaffir
Maybe.
Because when I'm in a front seat on Laurel Canyon and not driving, I don't know when it's going to turn right or left.
That's when I get the most nauseous.
joe rogan
What they're going to do eventually, they're going to be able to 3D map your body, and you're going to be able to just show up, like kick in the door of an orgy, and chicks are just going to hop onto your dick, and you're going to feel it.
You're going to feel them touching your body, feel them touching, you're going to go into this thing with electrodes placed in various spots in your head.
ari shaffir
I mean, if you make it perfectly real, perfectly real, where your body can't tell a difference, then...
I mean, you're not really going to have a reason to leave.
The only reason to leave and see the outside world is because, like, well, you can't replace reality.
But if you can replace reality, then it's like, really, there's no difference.
Stay there.
joe rogan
You would want to live in somewhere that really sucks.
Like Montana in the winter.
ari shaffir
Just for like a day?
joe rogan
Yeah, just where it's really brutal.
You want just to appreciate the reality difference between what this artificial world is that you have in your little computer setup and what the real world is outside.
ari shaffir
I wonder if you get happiness getting sun in the artificial world.
joe rogan
I'll bet you.
unidentified
If I would fill you with vitamin D. Sun while you're getting blown on the beach.
joe rogan
Come on, sun.
You know, you're at the mast of a boat.
ari shaffir
Dr. King's real dream.
unidentified
Hanging on.
joe rogan
You've got it wrapped around your wrist several times.
You're holding onto the mast.
You're being pulled across the ocean.
ari shaffir
You can do all those things like that?
joe rogan
While chicks are blowing you.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Come on.
ari shaffir
That'd be great.
joe rogan
That's living.
ari shaffir
That'd be great.
joe rogan
I mean, if we really do come up with some sort of technology that replicates that, I mean, what incentive do people have to engage in regular life?
ari shaffir
So they're not going to.
So let's just assume they're going to stop, because I don't see a reason why they would.
joe rogan
That's scary as fuck.
To think that you could create an artificial world that would be so intoxicating...
That people wouldn't want to participate in the regular world.
ari shaffir
We're on that direction now.
As soon as this podcast ends, you both, all three of you, and I would have too, are going to bury yourself in your phone for the next 30 minutes.
Incorrect, sir.
joe rogan
Incorrect.
My willpower is outstanding.
ari shaffir
You feel a nagging at you at all times too, right?
joe rogan
I certainly do.
ari shaffir
That's like a pull.
I gotta check this.
I gotta stop.
I gotta check this.
joe rogan
I'm getting way better at it.
I'm getting way better at putting it down, just leaving it somewhere.
ari shaffir
Developing a manner system about it.
joe rogan
But people get upset.
That's the other thing.
If someone texts you and they'll text you three hours later or not, Like, sorry, I just got back to my phone.
Like, I put it down for a while.
I don't want to be always available at all times.
ari shaffir
You can't go see a movie?
People, like, don't even give you time for that.
unidentified
I plug it in and just, like, drop it off, and I forget I even have it on.
joe rogan
You gotta do that.
I think you gotta disconnect.
And I know you promote shows, and you promote shows, and I promote shows, and, you know, like, you...
You can use that as an excuse, but I think there's something very admirable about what you're doing.
I think there's some wisdom in what you're doing, too.
ari shaffir
Well, that's all I wanted.
Some goddamn respect.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm respecting it.
I think it's the move.
I think to have both is the move, but to give that to your closest friends, I think that's the move.
So when you have to do some horseshit, you know, you got to do some fucking tax problems, you got to call on a...
You had that guy...
ari shaffir
Sign this and fax it back to me.
That motherfucker.
joe rogan
Do all that shit on the phone.
Do that on the iPhone.
But all your friends, your actual real social interactions, if you put someone in your regular flip phone, you really care about them.
brian redban
You just keep this in your car, just in case if you need to drive or go see a good restaurant's near.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what I do.
ari shaffir
I keep it in my car, so I couldn't even use it in my bed.
unidentified
Yeah, and you keep that on you, so just to make...
ari shaffir
Maybe I'll plug the battery into the thing and then superglue that.
So I literally cannot unplug it from the car charger ever again.
Yeah, why?
I'm not going to leave it in my car.
joe rogan
That's actually a good move.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, you could always, like, break it loose and go, some fucking asshole superglued my charger to my phone.
Can you fix this?
ari shaffir
They'd just get you a new one, I guess.
But that'd be too hard to get on right then to go on Twitter.
joe rogan
You need AppleCare.
unidentified
They probably have a Kensington lock or a case that has a Kensington lock, which is just a case that you can just connect it to, like, a wire.
brian redban
Kind of what they use as displays at Apple stores where you can't steal it.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, something like that.
joe rogan
Oh, like it glues to it and it clamps on the outside of it.
Yeah, I guess if they have them at Best Buy, they would have to be able to sell them to regular people.
It's not like it's government secrets or some shit.
You could probably buy one of those.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you probably could.
joe rogan
You just keep that shit in your car.
Or maybe in your house.
unidentified
Great, let's go to an Apple store after here and we'll get you an iPhone.
ari shaffir
Why do you get that crazy?
unidentified
The care, the care that I need to get in the game.
ari shaffir
I'm off the train for a little bit.
joe rogan
He's that heroin junkie.
ari shaffir
I'm not off the grid, I'm just off the train.
unidentified
It's hard to track you with that phone.
ari shaffir
Where you at?
That didn't catch on, the where you at thing.
Oh, there's the button where I can track my friends at all times.
joe rogan
That was one of the, there's several things that stand out as being ridiculous to call racist.
One of them was, do you know what happened with Margaret Cho at the Golden Globes?
Do you know about this thing?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
joe rogan
Margaret Cho at the Golden Globes played Kim Jong-un's publicist from North Korea.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
She put, like, white face on, like, put on, like, pale makeup, and, like, played the dictator, or a dictator, or someone who works for the dictator, right?
And people were saying that it's racist.
I'm like, dude, she's fucking Korean.
ari shaffir
That's the race she is.
unidentified
She said it's not racist, it's racist.
ari shaffir
Margaret Cho didn't give a fuck, huh?
She's great.
joe rogan
Well, she's fucking Korean.
Not only that, she's a mixed North Korean and South Korean.
Okay, so fuck off, man.
She can say whatever she wants.
Like, it's just people are just waiting.
They are just sweaty trigger fingers ready to be offended.
ari shaffir
Here's the problem.
joe rogan
I'm offended.
ari shaffir
Saying something's racist is not racist.
Just saying a racist thing is not racist.
Acts are racist.
Murdering people because they're black, that's racist.
Just saying, I hate black people, you haven't done anything to the world.
So fine, so it's racist.
You haven't done anything.
Go after people who are actually doing something.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess.
ari shaffir
Said, oh, this guy has that opinion.
Okay, so let him have that opinion.
Just ignore him.
That's him being his racist self.
Fine.
But you can't not hire black people at your company.
Or we're going to run you out of here.
That's the line.
Doing something.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you don't want a hostile work environment.
ari shaffir
No, you don't want someone who's going up to people and saying, fuck you, chink.
You don't want that.
Obviously, I chose chink because the other one's going to be too divisive.
joe rogan
The other word?
ari shaffir
The end one.
joe rogan
Are you going to say that?
unidentified
No.
ari shaffir
I was thinking of it.
I switched last minute and came up with junk.
You don't want that, but if someone wants to think that, then fucking fine.
Just don't do anything about it.
joe rogan
It's not fine, right?
You don't want them around you, right?
ari shaffir
But that's not up to you.
I don't want fucking Raiders fans around me either.
But that's not up to me.
joe rogan
Okay, Ari, if you start a factory, you're producing Ari Shafir t-shirts, and you're in that office all day long, and you choose to answer the phone because you want to take care of this business correct, and you hire two guys, and one of them turns out to be racist, and every day he says a bunch of stupid racist shit, and he poisons the environment.
ari shaffir
He's making the environment bad.
That's different.
joe rogan
Well, they all are.
Anybody that's racist or sexist...
ari shaffir
No, if they say something at home and I find out they say something later outside of office hours at home, then no, that's not a problem for my office.
joe rogan
Not outside of...
Okay.
ari shaffir
It's legal to join the Klan.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
It's legal to do this very outspokenly racist thing.
That's legal.
joe rogan
You know the Klan is trying to invite Puerto Ricans in?
ari shaffir
Really?
Why?
joe rogan
They're inviting all these other people in.
ari shaffir
Shoring up?
joe rogan
They're trying to expand their horizons.
unidentified
Seems like a mistake.
ari shaffir
No, they're not.
joe rogan
Yes, they are.
ari shaffir
Oh, my God.
That's amazing.
joe rogan
Here, I'll pull up a story.
The KKK is trying to expand their horizons.
unidentified
Doesn't seem like a good idea.
joe rogan
What?
Inviting minorities?
unidentified
Nah, just Puerto Ricans.
Why bother?
joe rogan
Well, I think they're trying to say this is the new plan.
ari shaffir
All it does to vilify people that say racist things is make it so that no one can speak.
joe rogan
The KKK is accepting black members.
Here is what is actually happening.
This is hilarious.
unidentified
Yeah, just come into the clubhouse, guys.
Just go through the stories.
ari shaffir
Insexual Jewish people?
Yes, you read correctly.
joe rogan
Expanding to accept African Americans.
Man, you would really have to hate other black people to join the KKK as a black guy.
ari shaffir
Click on it instead of just...
joe rogan
Yeah, we're having a bit of an issue here.
ari shaffir
Well, in this time, I guess I should tell you guys that starting a week from Thursday, my storyteller show, This Is Not Happening, is on every night after At Midnight.
joe rogan
Oh, good lord.
That's amazing.
ari shaffir
People who do it include, from this podcast, Joe Rogan and me.
joe rogan
Incredible.
ari shaffir
Kreischer's on.
Diaz is on.
A bunch of people.
D.L. Hughley, Rob Corddry.
joe rogan
Oh, my goodness.
ari shaffir
Segura.
joe rogan
Powerful Tom Segura.
ari shaffir
Fucking bunch of people.
Miss Pat.
I'm forgetting a lot.
But anyway, eight weeks.
Oh, there it is.
joe rogan
There it is.
ari shaffir
I think you're going to see a full episode right now if you go to the Comedy Central app or Comedy Central stand-up app.
joe rogan
I got to tell you, I like the classic jacket you're wearing there.
ari shaffir
You like that?
I got that in Hong Kong.
joe rogan
It looks good.
It looks very good.
ari shaffir
They told me I had to break out one outfit the whole time.
And I was like, you know what?
That was the right time for this suit.
joe rogan
Yeah, how many suits do you have?
ari shaffir
Two now.
I got them both made in Hong Kong.
joe rogan
Damn.
ari shaffir
I had a third, but that was like, move out to LA, find a real job.
joe rogan
Did you decide, like, the style?
ari shaffir
Did you just pick something off the wall?
He helped me decide, uh-uh, it was handmade.
joe rogan
That looks nice.
I mean, a style off the wall?
Do they have a style to choose from?
ari shaffir
Yeah, there's like a few different cuts you can choose.
Rocky, he's the best.
joe rogan
That's amazing, dude.
You're wearing tailored suits.
That's dope as fuck.
ari shaffir
300 bucks.
joe rogan
Son, you're a baller.
You're an international baller.
ari shaffir
International baller.
joe rogan
Look at you, Shafir!
unidentified
And it's not herpes.
joe rogan
I remember when you were a doorman at the Comedy Store, now you're an international motherfucking baller.
A true American success story, ladies and gentlemen.
ari shaffir
True American.
joe rogan
Holla at your boy, Ari Shaffir.
ari shaffir
Thanks.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, are you excited to have your special play?
ari shaffir
I'm excited.
I've got to be honest, man.
The people who listen to this podcast are the reason I was able to do that.
Comedy Central would even come up to a guy like me.
It's because of the force behind this thing.
There's no way.
I can try to be as good as I want, but if I'm an outsider, which I was, that's it.
They ain't coming calling that way.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know, there's no outsiders anymore.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, this is the, like, these kind of shows, internet shows, where there's no network behind it.
That's the last bridge.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, the last bridge between just straight comics.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
ari shaffir
It's like, I'll just find my own people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
So people found me, and that's great, and they put the money behind it, do a cool special at the comedy store, make it look all cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't play any of it.
unidentified
It looks great though.
The stage looks great.
ari shaffir
I like the way that came out.
joe rogan
Yeah, it looks awesome.
I mean, it's so obviously the OR, but yet with like a little twist to it with those lights behind you.
That's really cool.
ari shaffir
Just like ever so slightly.
I took it down so much.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
No, no, no, no.
Why this light bulb?
Get it out.
unidentified
Get it out.
Why this light bulb?
ari shaffir
No, get it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, that fucking room is magical.
unidentified
Oh, that looks great.
joe rogan
That room doesn't leave any...
There's no space for horseshit in that room.
ari shaffir
There's no space for horseshit, yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird.
It's weird.
ari shaffir
Try to riff and it's like, good luck.
joe rogan
Well, you can.
ari shaffir
You can.
That's a bad example.
I mean, like, if it's not all there and you're like, oh, that should have worked.
Like, no, it wasn't good.
It made a bad riff.
It's okay.
They're not going to just laugh anyway.
joe rogan
Well, it just forces you into that position where you really got to try hard to find the right words.
And, like, that's one of the things that I was talking about earlier about this time that we're in right now.
One of the cool things about it is that there's so many other really funny guys around that we're all feeding off each other, and you get inspired by each other.
So, like, everything is sort of ramped up, and even in your mind, like, all your connections to comedy, your ideas are sort of ramped up because there's all these really good guys around you all the time.
You know?
I think that's huge for any sort of artistic...
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, absolutely.
The bar.
You see the bar set higher.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Once you see the bar set all high, it's like, well, that's what I should be aiming for.
If you fall short of that, which you will in the beginning anyway, then it's like you're falling short at a 50th percentile.
But if the bar is set at 40, Yeah.
joe rogan
If you fall barely short, you're still 39. Well, I think also one of the things that we sort of exhibited after I left the Comedy Store and when we started doing a lot of shit on the internet and started doing this podcast is that we're all sort of like banding together.
As like a group.
Like there's a group of comedians that are all banding together.
And the more everybody else does good, the more everybody else does good.
ari shaffir
They like more comedy.
I see people see Fultron.
Like I saw my Fultron.
Great, man.
Yeah, you should know about him.
joe rogan
He's in your town.
ari shaffir
You should go.
The guy's like that.
It's like, go.
joe rogan
Everybody's feeding off everybody.
And it's getting to this really interesting pitch.
And if you look at great communities of musicians, great communities of comics, like the old Boston days that everybody always talks about, I think this day right now is the heyday.
We're in the heyday right now.
When I look around...
ari shaffir
Golden era.
Absolutely.
I agree with you.
Golden era.
joe rogan
Without any of us in this room, when I look, just extract us from the equation, just look at all the...
If you were just a comedy fan that was an insurance salesman or whatever, this is maybe the best time ever.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's so many guys I want to see right now.
ari shaffir
And one of those guys has a special premiering Friday the 16th at midnight, 1159, and his storyteller show premiering January 22nd at...
unidentified
But you should just buy it and get the extra footage of Ari Schaeffer the Great.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but some people just don't open up the e-wallets that way.
If you're not a buyer, then you're not a buyer.
Still watch it.
unidentified
Yeah, but just for the GNA, I think.
joe rogan
How do you feel about people pirating the GNA? Is that ultra insulting?
ari shaffir
No.
What do you mean?
Why would it be insulting if someone said, Hey everybody, look at this awesome thing!
Hey everybody, come look at this thing!
joe rogan
Because they're pirating your Jew in A. Do you not understand what I'm saying?
It's a goddamn cheap joke.
ari shaffir
Oh, I get it.
I get it.
Sorry.
My fault.
joe rogan
You're a non-Jewish supporter of pirating.
Like, you never give a fuck.
ari shaffir
Never give a fuck.
joe rogan
You don't have this attitude, like, trying to maximize your income.
ari shaffir
That's how people get you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Of course.
That's how they get you.
joe rogan
That's how they get you.
ari shaffir
The GNA is only available for the download.
So if you don't get by the download, how else are you going to see it?
Other than somebody fucking doing something with it.
Somebody saying, hey, you should come see this.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
ari shaffir
That's the way people, you know, the old wrestling tapes were like that.
Let me show you all this wrestling match you didn't know about.
That's how you fucking, that's why I just did a wrestling thing with wrestling.
joe rogan
Wrestling?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
People used to trade tapes because the regional ones were on local TV. Oh, good lord.
So people would have old tapes and like, oh, look at this guy's moves.
It wasn't pirating.
It was like sharing information.
That's all this shit is.
I couldn't put up my own hotel set because Viacom would have kept taking it down.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
I had to call Comedy Central.
I'm like, can you please put up my hotel set?
And they're like, yeah, okay.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
But it's like, let me disperse my information.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think people are under the impression that if something's online, they won't watch the television as much.
ari shaffir
They're separate markets.
Separate markets.
You know, Bo Burnham released his special on Netflix and YouTube.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, he's a YouTube celebrity.
ari shaffir
I know, but the people who watch shit like that on YouTube are not the kind of people who watch...
It's just like they're sort of separate.
There's a little overlap, but they're sort of separate.
I watch concerts online, and also overall for ticket sales.
It's great.
joe rogan
Well, there's also enough people that spend that seven bucks a month every month on Netflix, and it's just as easy to get it through Netflix.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, there's so many options of things that you can watch if you watch something like Netflix.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And no commercials.
ari shaffir
No commercials.
joe rogan
Seven bucks.
Hulu has commercials, right?
Hulu has commercials, yeah.
ari shaffir
Annoying ones.
The same ones.
Why are you showing the same commercial three times in an episode?
unidentified
It is pretty fast, though.
joe rogan
They're trying to steal your soul.
ari shaffir
They crank it extra loud, too.
They don't have those rules on them.
Come on, man.
My neighbors are fucking listening.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like if you're watching The Walking Dead or something like that, that's really spooky and creepy and quiet.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Geico!
Look at the lizard!
ari shaffir
Come on, get out of here.
unidentified
You're invasive.
ari shaffir
You know what's funny?
All these networks have this very specific, like, this is what we want our network to be, to be about.
And then they take these fucking ads that are so offensive to anyone's sense of creativity.
Taco Bell ads.
They're just fucking garbage based on shitty jokes you've seen a thousand times.
And you're like, this is what you're putting on in between your fucking awesome shows?
Make a fucking better standard for your commercials.
It's cloying.
It bothers very...
Either straight pitch, you know, use this bank, we'll get you a better APR.
Or not corny.
joe rogan
Is the time of the intrusive commercial gone?
Intrusive!
ari shaffir
Is it seems ridiculous?
Yeah, it seems ridiculous now.
You're getting awesome entertainment.
That's why nobody plays commercials on podcasts.
joe rogan
And if you want to watch...
ari shaffir
In the middle of it go a real commercial?
joe rogan
A lot of guys still do.
But if you want to watch like a television show...
ari shaffir
You do?
The White Castle?
unidentified
No.
ari shaffir
That's why you're a holy year.
Sorry.
joe rogan
If you want to watch a television show on A&E that's also available on iTunes, you're going to have to watch with commercials.
ari shaffir
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
It's crazy!
Isn't it crazy?
ari shaffir
It's crazy!
unidentified
I haven't watched TV like that in so long!
ari shaffir
It's just so crazy.
What?
joe rogan
That will be in the future what we think of as Blockbuster video right now.
Like the idea of going to Blockbuster and getting a video is so alien right now.
Like unless you're like in Hawaii, you know, and you're staying in a room that has a DVD player.
When the fuck are you renting DVDs?
You're not.
ari shaffir
Never.
joe rogan
That shit's ridiculous.
ari shaffir
A lot of people do that red box, but that's like middle America.
joe rogan
Those people.
Those fucking miners and shit.
unidentified
It's like older people.
I mean, they go to the grocery store, they can pick up a movie.
ari shaffir
I have a sense of standards, too.
Some interviewer asked me, like, what do I think about the standards?
I'm like, they're not for the people who would like me.
joe rogan
The standards?
ari shaffir
Yeah, like, you know how to say these words or something like that, you know?
Like, FCC rules.
But, like, anyone who would become a fan of mine wouldn't care about those rules.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
So for me to say fuck or for me to say something gross, it's like, none of my fans will care.
joe rogan
Yeah, the idea that you're gonna, like, cut out...
ari shaffir
That applies to Arkansas Housewives.
What are you doing?
That's not me and my fans.
They won't watch anyway.
joe rogan
There's plenty of dummies out there that don't want to hear you swearing.
That would be offended by certain subject matter.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
There's nothing you're going to do about that.
ari shaffir
Just don't watch.
joe rogan
But there's so many people.
That's the thing that people aren't considering.
That people never considered when they were giving advice to comics back in the day.
When they're telling them to be clean.
ari shaffir
Yeah, there's so many people.
If you get your piece of the pie.
joe rogan
The pie's massive.
ari shaffir
You can fill up.
On a piece of the pie.
joe rogan
Ridiculously big.
ari shaffir
Yeah, one one millionth of a percentage.
joe rogan
The pie has 300 million possible people in this country.
ari shaffir
And look at Starbucks.
There are companies like, oh, this is great.
We expand and expand and not just in Seattle.
And then all over the country.
It's like, great.
It's like, oh, guess what?
The pie is fucking 18 times that big.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Go to the whole world.
And they're like, what?
And then you make so much more money.
joe rogan
Exactly how I should feel.
ari shaffir
And it's all about the money.
unidentified
Boom, boom.
ari shaffir
Five or ten dollars to get my special paid regular that's out right now at reshapir.com.
joe rogan
It's five or ten?
ari shaffir
You can get ten and get the audio too.
joe rogan
Oh, you get like a double?
ari shaffir
So it's out on iTunes on Tuesday.
joe rogan
Oh, that's cool.
So you get like a package deal.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you get a package deal.
joe rogan
The video and the audio.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Damn, son, moving forward.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I'm trying to arrange with Comedy Central, too, so we're trying to get this, like, algorithm or just based on, like, because they're, like, starting a new system, and they're pretty cool.
They're like, all right, you've done this online before?
Tell us, like, what do you got?
Any thoughts?
And I was like, yeah, when someone buys a Joe Rogan special, after that, it said you might also like, and then you got to tell...
Find some names of guys, like Segura's Half Hour or My Hour.
Like, yeah, that should come up.
And then if you like me, then after you watch that, like, here's some other people you might like.
Not just random dudes.
Don't put a Bob Saget after me.
joe rogan
Right, people you actually do like.
ari shaffir
But, like, have it, like, this is a similar...
No, not Ant.
Like, have it, don't say it three times, it'll show up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Need somebody to say something homophonic?
joe rogan
DatFan.
unidentified
DatFan.
ari shaffir
Kick the door in.
Yeah, just half shit like that.
So they're trying to build something like that for their website.
The CC Direct stuff.
And it's like, yeah, keep building.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good idea.
That's a good idea.
All due respect to DatFan.
I voted for him.
ari shaffir
Did you?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was first year.
ari shaffir
You voted?
You actually called in and voted?
joe rogan
No, I was one of the judges.
ari shaffir
Oh.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I voted on the show, they got him in.
unidentified
I didn't see Joe at home opening his phone.
ari shaffir
I'm going to contribute.
I'll be part of the solution.
joe rogan
That was when...
ari shaffir
Him and Ralphie Mae head to head for one and two, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, Ralphie Mae was there.
Who was three that year?
I don't remember.
unidentified
Me neither.
joe rogan
I was just in the beginning, like when they were trying out to be on the show.
ari shaffir
Oh, right.
joe rogan
I was one of the judges on that.
They'd have comics go up and do sets.
ari shaffir
Yusuf just tried out for a new season.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
It was the best trial process ever seen.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
They don't reject you or accept you right there.
You go up, there's a full crowd at the improv.
Go up, do three minutes, get off, leave.
joe rogan
Who's the host now?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
Maybe Wanda Sykes.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a good move.
ari shaffir
No, they had her already.
unidentified
She's done.
joe rogan
Bill Bellamy did it for a while, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah, he was never here.
joe rogan
How dare you?
He was here.
I'm a fan.
Bill Bellamy till I die.
ari shaffir
Till I die forever.
That was...
Who was Ingram's black character?
joe rogan
What's Ingram's black character?
ari shaffir
Darnell.
Darnell.
His favorite comic was Bill Bellamy.
He goes, oh, you remember that one bit?
Where he's like, with the Rolodex.
To call bitches.
It's like...
Darnell.
Or maybe Darnell was his cousin.
Darnell was his cousin.
What the fuck?
Why can't I remember his name?
Oh yeah.
Marijuana.
joe rogan
Marijuana fucks with memory.
ari shaffir
No, Darnell was Ingram's character's cousin.
unidentified
Did you hear about Jeremiah, what happened?
joe rogan
Watkins?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
He got skin cancer and he got a big chunk taken out of his back.
joe rogan
Whoa.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm doing a show tonight.
ari shaffir
Me too.
unidentified
Are you?
joe rogan
The Three Clubs show.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, he's got his arm brace on.
I was like, what happened?
Why do you have an arm brace on?
Cancer.
joe rogan
Maybe, what if we found out that Satan fucked him in the ass and shot his demon load on his neck.
ari shaffir
Oh, and that would make cancer.
That would make cancer.
joe rogan
If we found out that Jeremiah's just tired of being on the periphery.
It's a funny comic.
It's got a lot of talent.
It just needs to do what a lot of these other guys have done.
ari shaffir
He made a deal with the devil.
joe rogan
Satan's like, I'm just going to put the tip in.
unidentified
Just a tip.
ari shaffir
People say I shouldn't trust you.
joe rogan
I don't need to do much because you're very talented already.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
unidentified
I'm just going to have to put the tip in.
ari shaffir
It's just a tip.
unidentified
Oh, what's that noise?
Relax.
It's hard to relax when you're talking to me like that.
ari shaffir
That can't just be the tip.
That was like, I got a six mile tip.
joe rogan
You hear the fluttering of his wings as he shoots his hot load on your back.
Hot olive oil.
As your skin fucking rides in agony.
Where his load ate through.
That's it, folks.
Good night.
That's the end of this podcast.
That's great.
Friday, January what?
ari shaffir
16th.
joe rogan
On where?
ari shaffir
11.59, Comedy Central.
joe rogan
11.59.
ari shaffir
Set your DVRs right now.
Why even risk it?
joe rogan
Well, if it's 11.59, that means that it's uncensored, correct?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yes.
Beautiful.
Glorious.
Uncensored.
On television.
He can say cunty.
I said cunty on Comedy Central.
ari shaffir
Oh, so they don't put bleeps over the cuss words there?
joe rogan
That's right, baby.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's good.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Watch that, then.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's good.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck, yeah.
ari shaffir
Bleeps are annoying.
joe rogan
They do whatever they want.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and then the following week, January 22nd, Thursday, and every Thursday after that, This Is Not Happening premieres, the first one's with me, Bobby Lee, Keegan-Michael Key.
Chrysler's on the second one, and the intro to the second one is amazing.
Jim Tomczyk, that guy who did the intros, did eight different intros for eight episodes.
He's out of his mind.
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Good googly moogly, ladies and gentlemen.
Good googly moogly.
ari shaffir
Joe Rogan's on week five or six, I think.
unidentified
Four.
joe rogan
That was fun, man.
ari shaffir
Awesome crowd.
joe rogan
I love the fact that you're doing it in that weird little strip joint place, too.
Weird environment.
It's got such a great vibe.
It's a little...
Unpretentious vibe.
Like, I think the vibe of that place, like, helps those shows.
Because it's not a comedy club where you demand, like...
ari shaffir
It's a strip club.
Relax.
What are you upset about?
joe rogan
It's a weird...
ari shaffir
The beast themselves here.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you're having a lot of people that come on that aren't even comics.
ari shaffir
You're having McCordry, Shear.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's great.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a great idea, man.
ari shaffir
It's beautiful.
unidentified
Keegan?
joe rogan
Beautiful to see it on Comedy Central.
Ari's ballin'.
unidentified
Chaka chaka chaka.
We actually got this tomorrow.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
ari shaffir
We're doing that too.
joe rogan
Yeah, January 14th, we will all be at the Comedy Store for Sam Trisley's Naughty Show.
I think it starts at 9 p.m.
Is that correct?
Yeah dog Jesus Rogan Jeffries Yeah Ari Shafir is gonna be Morgan Murphy's gonna be there January 30th I'm at the Mirage In Lost Wages Dude Cerrone's fighting again After you told him Like you may as well get in there And ask to fight again Yeah he got right back in He said fuck it Three weeks later I've never seen twice in a month Damn, it feels good to be a gangster.
Yeah, I wish you were coming with me, man.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that would be cool.
I got all this shit.
joe rogan
Fuck!
Yeah, that'd be cool.
Yeah, I'm going to Boston with Ian.
ari shaffir
Was that a Joe Lozon fight?
Was he supposed to fight Benson?
joe rogan
Joe was supposed to fight.
I think he got hurt.
I don't know if he was supposed to fight Benson.
ari shaffir
I don't remember the original.
He was supposed to fight somebody, though, right?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yes, he was supposed to be, but I believe he got injured.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Well, thanks, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
This has been fun as always.
Thank you, Ari Shafir.
You're fucking awesome.
ari shaffir
Only reason to come into the Valley is to do the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.
joe rogan
Shit on the Valley.
I was born here.
Till I die!
Alright, that's it, you awesome people.
Oh, January 30th, Mirage, Vegas.
Ian Edwards and Tony Hinchcliffe.
unidentified
Chugga, chugga, chugga.
joe rogan
See you guys soon.
Much love.
Big kiss.
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