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Oct. 26, 2014 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:54:37
Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - October 25, 2014
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aubrey marcus
05:12
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brendan schaub
18:25
e
eddie bravo
20:33
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ian mccall
15:07
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joe rogan
01:33:56
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josh olin
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ian mccall
I mean, we're on.
joe rogan
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, this is a clusterfuck of a podcast, but it's going to be awesome.
There's a lot of fucking people here.
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unidentified
Oh shit!
joe rogan
Human optimization time!
Listen, we got a fucking stacked house.
To my left, the master, my brother from another mother, Mr. Eddie Bravo is here.
Ian McCall's friend, Kamal.
unidentified
Kareem.
joe rogan
Kareem.
Kamal Abdul-Jabbar.
I knew it was one of those.
Just met him.
Ian McCall, of course, one of the baddest motherfuckers on the planet Earth.
unidentified
Next to him, Big Brown is in the house, bitches!
What?
What?
joe rogan
No!
unidentified
No!
Not just one of the top UFC heavyweight contenders in the fucking world!
joe rogan
Preparing for his next big fight with Travis Brown.
Gonna be very confusing calling that.
Big Brown!
unidentified
Don't fuck it up!
joe rogan
Big Brown!
I mean, Travis Brown is...
Whatever.
And next to him, of course, my other brother, Mr. Aubrey Marcus, Warrior Poet US on Twitter.
Follow him.
He puts out great links.
And his gal Whitney, right below, she's here, fresh off of a jiu-jitsu lesson.
Just competing in a tournament herself.
We're pretty and fucks bitches up!
And we're about to start the very first fight.
If you've ever heard one of these podcasts before, don't expect any deep insight to the nature of the universe.
Most of it is people getting drunk watching fights.
So, we already did it, man.
I did it.
Oh, and NIT. Use the code word broken.
brendan schaub
We don't have any anymore.
joe rogan
We got Alpha Brain all up in this bitch.
We got boxes, son.
We got all...
Goddamn, look at that booty.
You just get an alpha brain.
You would get a fucking mad rush of human neurotransmitters.
Alright, first round's about to start.
They just touched gloves.
The time says 4.55 right now.
So if you're syncing up...
The thing about the internet, if you're watching it on the internet...
We're about maybe 10 or 15 seconds slower because there's a lag between it uploading to Ustream and we're watching it right now.
So it's the very first round of the very first fight.
It's Diego...
What is the fight?
Diego Ferreira...
Hold on a second.
I'll tell you any minute now, ladies and gentlemen.
What's that?
How much what?
I bet on Ferreira.
These motherfuckers are gambling.
Diego Ferreira and Benil Dariush.
I do not know much about these gentlemen.
unidentified
Ben is a badass.
I've had the privilege of rolling with him a few times.
joe rogan
Benil.
You call him Benny?
And he is the gentleman in the black shorts.
brendan schaub
Fiera is undefeated.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen Diego Ferreira fight before.
brendan schaub
He's a little monster.
joe rogan
He's got very good jiu-jitsu, too.
Very good jiu-jitsu.
Good striking, too.
Like, throws hard shots, but nasty jiu-jitsu.
unidentified
A couple years ago, Benny went up against Kron and lost by advantage.
If you saw the fight, you would have seen that the advantage given wasn't a legit advantage.
There was a sweep that Benny wasn't given the points to.
Really, really good fight.
brendan schaub
Real quick, my boy Neil Magny won his fifth straight.
unidentified
TKO, third round, son.
joe rogan
Yeah, no shit, right?
brendan schaub
The Gazelle.
That's five this year.
Five in a row.
joe rogan
That's pretty amazing.
brendan schaub
He's just not as flashy, so a lot of people don't talk about him.
Like you said, you didn't even know who he is.
ian mccall
I know he is.
eddie bravo
I mean, I... But I don't watch...
I barely keep up with anything now.
Now I know why these...
joe rogan
Why is this not on?
I don't hear him.
eddie bravo
Check, check, check.
joe rogan
There we go.
eddie bravo
Check.
Oh, I'm sorry.
brendan schaub
You know what?
eddie bravo
I think that there's a chance.
joe rogan
Now it's really loud.
eddie bravo
The reason why there's saturation of the UFC, I think that was done on purpose, so we wouldn't watch anything else.
I can barely keep up with the UFC. How the fuck am I going to watch Bellator?
joe rogan
No, you know what it is?
I'll tell you exactly what it is.
There's only a certain amount of fighters.
There's hundreds and hundreds of fighters.
And if you just let those dudes just run free, they get scooped up by other organizations.
And the reality is there's a lot of fucking top talent out there.
There's a lot.
If you want to have an organization that has 300 fighters on contract, you've got to have an assload of events.
Plus, the idea is just keep spreading this shit everywhere.
Put on fights everywhere.
Fight card, international, two at a time.
eddie bravo
When people talk about, on the internet all the time, it's a known subject.
What's up with the saturation with the UFC? Do you like it?
brendan schaub
In America, internationally it's growing like a motherfucker.
eddie bravo
Everyone's talking about it.
brendan schaub
International it's like this.
America it's like this.
eddie bravo
Is it good?
Was there a plan to oversaturate?
joe rogan
They don't believe it's oversaturating.
They don't believe it's oversaturating.
They're putting on good fights.
They're just trying to put on as many fights as they should.
brendan schaub
It's tougher for them to get famous.
joe rogan
The fighters.
brendan schaub
Is that true?
joe rogan
Look at Conor McGregor.
The motherfucker got famous immediately.
brendan schaub
Well, now you're talking about the exception.
But Neil Magny, we go five years ago, he's 5-0.
You know, he's on the front cover of Fighters Only doing shit.
eddie bravo
People want to see finishers.
joe rogan
It's possible, yeah.
5-0, bro?
unidentified
That's pretty good.
joe rogan
He wins by decision every time.
brendan schaub
No, he just won by TKO tonight.
He won his last fight by TKO in Australia.
unidentified
Did he win TKO tonight?
Yeah.
eddie bravo
He was on the roll.
We're talking about him here.
unidentified
5 in a row, son.
joe rogan
He's got nice skills.
brendan schaub
He's got great cardio.
Well, the only reason we're talking about is because he was a trained partner of mine.
Other than that, I wouldn't be talking about him.
joe rogan
He just blew his ass But you know what I'm saying?
How come a guy like him, who's been winning, how come he doesn't get as much attention as a guy like Conor?
Yeah, exactly.
brendan schaub
Like John Fitch.
John Fitch was a popular fighter.
I mean, it depends.
joe rogan
Well, he was successful.
unidentified
Successful fighter.
brendan schaub
He was still popular, though.
He fought for a title.
aubrey marcus
Strong walkout song.
joe rogan
But you don't have to be...
unidentified
Very strong.
joe rogan
Yeah, very strong.
Rusty Chains, come on, son.
unidentified
Johnny Cash.
brendan schaub
But he wasn't exciting, so people wanted to see him lose.
I like this style, because no one can stop it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I like about it.
The style tests people.
You know, he's unbelievably tough.
He fucking stays on guys.
He grinds.
brendan schaub
Dana White said, though, ooh, let this motherfucker lose.
As soon as he lost.
unidentified
Oh, his eyes cut your cut.
That's the craziest thing about him.
joe rogan
Nasty.
This is a good top game, man.
Real good balance.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
He trains a stand-up with Rafael.
He's awesome.
eddie bravo
How about Damien Maia?
John Fitch is John Fitch.
unidentified
Right?
ian mccall
John Fitch, John Fitch.
eddie bravo
John Fitch, John Fitch.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
Ferreira's holding onto a leg here.
ian mccall
A monkey fucking a footballer.
joe rogan
Stepping over.
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
unidentified
He won't get caught in that.
joe rogan
Ferreira's good, man.
brendan schaub
Never say never, son.
unidentified
Yeah.
His knee is so flexible.
All I would go for are knee bars, leg locks all day on him.
He'd twist out.
They'd be twisted so far backwards.
brendan schaub
For sure send his coach a text right now.
unidentified
Just crazy.
joe rogan
What is up with dudes who have super flexible joints?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
Like Hoyler.
I think you're born that way.
You remember when Hoyler fought Sakuraba and he had his arm bent way the fuck behind his back?
brendan schaub
You're for sure born that way.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
Or is it just years and years of jiu-jitsu?
Is it like starting as a baby?
brendan schaub
I think jiu-jitsu helps.
Like, Eddie, you're so flexible down there.
Don't you think you were born that way?
Were you old?
eddie bravo
Were you old born flexible?
brendan schaub
Ooh, I disagree.
eddie bravo
Everybody was born flexible.
brendan schaub
My man, you look stiff walking in.
You were not born flexible.
unidentified
I am not.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you look super stiff walking in.
I'm with you.
eddie bravo
I think all babies are born flexible, but some just keep using it, and some don't use it, and they lose it.
unidentified
You grow.
eddie bravo
It's how you grow up.
ian mccall
You don't use it, you lose it.
joe rogan
We gotta be real careful about not talking over each other.
Sorry.
eddie bravo
And for me, I used to bite my toenails with my feet.
That was my bad habit.
unidentified
I did, too.
eddie bravo
But that kept the flexibility while all the kids started running.
joe rogan
That's so disgusting.
brendan schaub
I did the exact same thing when I was a kid.
joe rogan
That's so fucking disgusting.
eddie bravo
And I was the cutest rubber guard.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
Being a disgusting toe sucker.
eddie bravo
I would do it in private, though.
I don't do it anymore.
brendan schaub
You just did it.
eddie bravo
I had to make sure my mom...
Because our doors didn't have locks.
You had to make sure your mom's not going to walk down.
ian mccall
Were both hands on your feet, or were you...
eddie bravo
I'd bite my toenails.
joe rogan
Flexibility is something you can achieve that a lot of people don't work hard enough at.
brendan schaub
I agree with that, Joe, but at the same time, some guys are freakishly...
joe rogan
I'm telling you, he's been doing it forever, though.
eddie bravo
I'm not that flexible.
joe rogan
It's not like explosive.
It's not like that.
That's a different animal.
eddie bravo
Listen, Brandon.
Anybody can get flexible if you stretched.
joe rogan
Rubber guard, kick to the head.
eddie bravo
Everybody knows that.
When you walk into a kickboxing school, you can't kick to the head.
unidentified
Dude, this guy Benny is badass.
eddie bravo
And eventually you'll be able to kick to the head.
He's the real deal.
joe rogan
Dude, that fucking shot was sweet.
unidentified
You roll with that guy, he just doesn't quit.
ian mccall
He's good, isn't he?
joe rogan
He's undefeated in the UFC. You know what I think, man?
I think...
There's people that just don't put in the effort and they just accept the fact that they're not flexible.
Remember that dude that we had, the big football player guy who got stupid flexible over the course of like a year?
eddie bravo
He had terrible flexibility.
joe rogan
He wouldn't stop stretching and he got mad flexible in a year.
eddie bravo
He was like a soldier.
Some people get to load, the goal is to get to load.
ian mccall
Dude, it was huge.
joe rogan
He was built like you.
He was a giant dude.
He was like 250. We used to call it riding the bull when we would fucking roll with that guy.
eddie bravo
If a guy came to you and you were going to take him under your wing and you hooked him up with a kickboxing trainer and he came up to you and said, hey, I can't kick to the head, man.
I don't know what to do.
What would you tell him?
ian mccall
Retire.
joe rogan
He's the pessimism of doom.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Oh!
Damn!
brendan schaub
I would say beat it, nerd.
joe rogan
Benny just cracked him with that knee.
Dude, he was dominating him on the ground, too.
I was really surprised by how he took him down and then got his back and was hanging on to him.
ian mccall
Where's this kid from?
unidentified
He started with...
joe rogan
On the mic, son.
unidentified
He started with Bruno Mammut at Half Gracie.
joe rogan
Nice.
Half Gracie makes a lot of killers.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's got a lot of killers up there in Northern California.
He had Cameron Earl up there.
He had a lot of dudes up there, right?
David Terrell.
He's out of there.
eddie bravo
Dave Camarillo.
joe rogan
Dan Camarillo.
Animals up there, dude.
eddie bravo
Gumby.
Scott Nelson.
joe rogan
Well, Half was mad at BJ when BJ left and went to Nova Uniao, right?
Remember that?
Called him a traitor?
eddie bravo
I don't know the details of that.
joe rogan
Yeah, hopefully they worked it out.
unidentified
I'm talking about the one in...
Nice body kick.
Off Tustin.
Anaheim Hills.
joe rogan
Oh, whose teacher's there?
unidentified
That was Bruno Mamouli.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
But he also trains with Rafael now at Kings.
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Rafael Cordero?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's a good guy, man.
He's a sweetheart.
unidentified
Yeah, I've tattooed him and his wife a bunch of times.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're a tattoo artist?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He better be, otherwise he just had something vulgar.
Fucking a dude and his wife.
That's so rude, but you've got to keep that shit quiet.
ian mccall
Yeah, I appreciate it.
joe rogan
Fucking a dude and his wife.
You gotta fucking be a little shy about that.
ian mccall
Hey, do you guys party?
brendan schaub
That'd be great.
Do you have two hours?
Absolutely not.
ian mccall
She had no idea what that meant, and we were by ourselves at a club in Tahoe, and some couple comes up all cooked out of their gourd.
unidentified
Oh, no.
ian mccall
You guys party.
She's like, oh, yeah.
She's like, you want to have fun?
And I'm like, no, no, no.
We don't party.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a different party.
brendan schaub
That's a bummer.
That's a bummer.
joe rogan
Yes and no.
ian mccall
His wife is like 50 with just perfect cement tits, like five-year-old tits with a tiny little dress on.
unidentified
I was going to say, one with a trade-off never works.
It never works either.
ian mccall
And then, of course, 30 minutes later we look up at another table and they have swapped another couple with women on the show's lap.
joe rogan
Of course.
ian mccall
I'm not mad at that.
joe rogan
I'm not mad at that.
Cocaine makes things happen.
unidentified
It does.
joe rogan
It just does.
brendan schaub
But why is it the ugly ones you want to switch up?
joe rogan
Because they don't give a fuck, dude.
When I was in Tampa, I was doing stand-up in Tampa and they were all ugly.
There was like 40 of them.
This couple.
20 on each side.
20 guys, 20 girls.
And they were all swingers.
And they wanted to take us to a swinger place.
It was me and Matty Kirsch.
And we were like, what?
Look at you fucking monsters.
It's like that scene in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas when Hunter Thompson's on acid.
unidentified
We're just checking into the hotel, and the lizards are fucking...
joe rogan
There's blood on the floor.
Tell me about the golf shoes!
unidentified
One of the best scenes ever.
One of the best scenes ever.
joe rogan
I think when you're that, you know, you're fucked up, and you're old, and you're a swinger, like, you're just a mess.
You'll just fuck anybody.
Anybody's fucking...
They just put lipstick on.
We're good.
unidentified
Yeah, I was like, oh, for sure, pile driving my wife.
brendan schaub
You've been with it for 30 years, son.
joe rogan
He doesn't want to fuck his wife now.
eddie bravo
There comes a point where, you know, there's like 10 years where you...
You might be thinking about it, but you won't pull the trigger.
unidentified
After like 20 years, like, dude, bang the shit out of her, dude.
If that means I can fuck someone else, hell yeah!
I can fuck anybody else!
eddie bravo
All I gotta do is let her bang other dudes.
unidentified
Sold.
eddie bravo
Fuck yeah!
unidentified
That's how swingers get started.
It's a bunch of dudes.
A bunch of dudes are sick of banging their wives.
joe rogan
That's tough.
unidentified
You get to keep your wife and have sex with others.
aubrey marcus
You heard about the key party?
eddie bravo
Well, all you gotta do is let her bang let it do.
joe rogan
Yeah, they used to do those in the 70s, right?
aubrey marcus
Everybody puts their keys in a pile.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Hey, you guys don't have headphones on, right?
So you don't realize what a clusterfuck this is.
There's two separate conversations going on at the exact same time.
brendan schaub
I'm talking about a key party, sex party.
He's talking about a swingers party.
joe rogan
It's the swingers party.
They would all throw keys into a bucket.
And whoever got, you know, you just pick whichever person you're going home with.
unidentified
Well, you better make sure it's a bucket.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Well, if you pull the keys to some big warlock, like, yeah.
joe rogan
Tough, tough action.
It's life.
Hopefully it hurts her pussy and she doesn't want any more of that.
She goes back to your regular dick.
brendan schaub
I'd act sick.
joe rogan
Act sick when you look at that.
Cha-pow!
unidentified
Who's that?
eddie bravo
Oh damn, they got someone with boot tags.
joe rogan
That's a Brazilian girl.
eddie bravo
Damn!
brendan schaub
I have to have an ass to be a Brazilian girl.
joe rogan
I think Jenny Andrade.
eddie bravo
Oh, he's a voluptuous octagon girl.
We haven't seen that since Ally.
joe rogan
She's built correctly.
eddie bravo
Remember Ally?
That's true.
brendan schaub
Yes, I do.
joe rogan
So Ferreira has a mouse on that left eye, man.
eddie bravo
Remember, like seven years ago?
joe rogan
Yeah, she had a beautiful body.
eddie bravo
Damn, Anna face.
joe rogan
Look at his left eye, man.
He caught a bunch of shit in that round, right?
Didn't he get tacked?
That's a good fucking leg kick, too.
Good defense, too, man.
Oh, he came over the top there.
But that was a lot of energy and not a lot of results.
Good defense.
And he landed a vicious fucking leg kick right before that flurry.
ian mccall
Those kicks are way too slow.
joe rogan
Powerful.
Ian McCall, hummingbird-like speed.
brendan schaub
These guys might be a little fatiguing.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, Ferreira just went over a big charge.
And Darouche, how do you say his last name?
Darouche?
Darouche?
He blocked most of that.
ian mccall
Nice, dude.
eddie bravo
The cardio on these guys is fucking incredible.
unidentified
Ooh, nice knee to the body by Ferreira.
eddie bravo
How do they keep going forever?
aubrey marcus
The pulsing, breathing country of Brazil behind them.
joe rogan
Those are so important, those moments, right?
In the scramble, in a takedown, the guy who lands the hard shots.
Especially those hard knees to the body, if you could time it just right.
You know there's going to be that opening.
You know there's going to be that brief window to get something in.
brendan schaub
Scrambles everything.
joe rogan
Scrambles a lot, man.
brendan schaub
At a high level.
joe rogan
And it tells, like, who is in, like, really tip-top shape and fucking is really driven and wants it and who's looking to take a little bit of a break.
Who's looking to, like, maybe not push as hard to capitalize on those moments.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because those moments are going to gas you.
You know, if you're tired already, it's a mad scramble and there's that pause.
Do I take a breath here?
Or boom!
Do I fire the shot?
brendan schaub
And at a high level in those scrambles, you're going to have this small window to attack the guy.
These guys are too good, man.
joe rogan
Anderson Silva, Stefan Bonner, there's in that scramble, he landed that fucking vicious knee to the body, and that was it.
brendan schaub
Most submissions you see at a high level are during the scramble.
joe rogan
Yeah, and when guys have that good pointy fucking knee to the body, you know who's got a really good one?
Cowboy.
ian mccall
Yes.
joe rogan
Cowboy's got a beautiful one off that left leg.
He keeps guys from coming in.
You know, as you're charging in, he's pawing at you with a jab and you come to close that distance and he catches you with that body knee.
Boom!
Overeem's got a vicious one too.
brendan schaub
Charles Brown's ain't bad either.
joe rogan
It's not bad.
Dude, Overeem, it seems like he's just having the hardest time taking punches these days.
It's just not the same guy.
ian mccall
Wherever they hit in his face, too, it hurts.
It just puts him out.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brendan schaub
Well, that one against Ben Rothwell, and I never defend Overeem, ever, because he's done so much steroids.
However, when he fought Ben Rothwell, he got hit behind the air.
So people were like, oh, his chin's out of control.
When a 265-pound man hits you behind the ear, it's going to fuck you up, man.
It just is.
So I don't think it's a matter of a chin in that fight.
joe rogan
Look at Cain Velasquez.
Takes bombs.
Junior caught him right behind the ear and just went down.
brendan schaub
It wobbles you.
They're not out, but they're wobbling and they get TKO'd.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just feel like, you go back to Overeem vs.
Brock Lesnar, and you are looking at maybe the scariest fucking heavyweight of all time.
brendan schaub
Right?
I 100% agree.
ian mccall
Dude!
joe rogan
Just 263, he weighs in at 263, and he looks like a goddamn cartoon.
brendan schaub
He does.
He looks like a Greek statue.
joe rogan
And he's throwing bombs.
Yeah.
It just doesn't even look like a real human.
brendan schaub
I can't respect that though, man.
Now give all of us the same supplements he was on.
Let's see what's up.
joe rogan
That's what I'm proposing.
I'm proposing everybody get on steroids.
unidentified
Give us all the shit.
joe rogan
I'm tired of this nature bullshit, bro.
Why don't we all go back to not training?
What the fuck are we doing?
No one's trying to get better?
I'm talking about everybody being on steroids.
Fuck it.
Let's just do this.
I'm kidding, ladies and gentlemen.
Please, don't make this a fucking main page article on one of your goofy fucking online MMA websites and pretend I'm being serious.
No, I don't believe that everybody should be on steroids.
We're drinking.
eddie bravo
You said it, so it's too late.
joe rogan
I would like to say that on a broadcast, though.
unidentified
Fuck it!
joe rogan
Fuck it, everybody get on steroids!
Obviously I don't do it.
eddie bravo
You're in jail like hell yeah.
They're working prides.
joe rogan
It's fucked up, man.
Like, Vanderlei Silva is banned for life.
eddie bravo
That's fucked up.
brendan schaub
That's what's up, man.
joe rogan
That's fucked up.
brendan schaub
What he's done for the sport, too?
joe rogan
Crazy!
Unbelievable.
Ridiculous.
You can't run from a drug test, but I can't support that.
Suspend him for a year.
Spend him for a year without even testing him.
I'm 100% down with that.
It sends a very clear message.
The guy can't earn money fighting for a year.
He's got to go and do seminars and all that stuff.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh, Ferrer got tagged.
That same eye, too.
eddie bravo
His hand was on the mat.
joe rogan
It went down.
eddie bravo
No, he was touching it.
unidentified
He was touching it.
I saw it.
ian mccall
His eye's already swollen up.
unidentified
But I just think that a year, man, a year is a good...
joe rogan
He wasn't touching it!
brendan schaub
A year, maybe $100,000 fine if you want to make it steep.
joe rogan
Wow, that's steep.
Well, he got steep!
60 grand anyway, right?
unidentified
Brandon.
joe rogan
Your boy, uh, fucking Benny?
That's how you say it?
Benny.
Benny Darouche?
unidentified
Darouche, yeah.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker, dude.
And this is his first UFC fight, huh?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
How many other fights has he had?
unidentified
I think he's got like four or five.
eddie bravo
No.
unidentified
Nope.
brendan schaub
Last year I was at an event corner and he was on a smaller show.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
I think he's done four.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's done four.
This is his fourth one.
brendan schaub
In the UFC? Yeah.
joe rogan
Damn.
Damn.
brendan schaub
Sir, you are dead wrong, man.
joe rogan
He lost once to Ramsey.
eddie bravo
He got KO'd.
joe rogan
Wow, he got KO'd by Ramsey?
I mean, I'm so impressed with this guy, man.
I'm surprised that Ramsey got him.
brendan schaub
What's his overall record?
How many has he won?
joe rogan
Good question.
He is 8-1-0.
8-1-0.
So Ramsey's the only guy to beat him.
brendan schaub
Wow.
joe rogan
And I'm fucking super...
Oh!
brendan schaub
Good catch, though, Doug.
joe rogan
Dude, my reflexes are still...
eddie bravo
Now that everyone's getting busted with steroids, and there's new tests, and everyone's getting busted, do you think very few guys are doing steroids now?
brendan schaub
I think it makes it tougher, but listen, professional sports, it's part of the game.
Whether you're in the Olympics, NFL, NBA, it's part of the game.
joe rogan
I did steroids right before this podcast, just so I could be up for it.
eddie bravo
How many fighters do you think that there's 10 UFC fighters that just got off it because they didn't want to get busted?
joe rogan
Quite a bit.
brendan schaub
I wish I knew, man.
ian mccall
They got off before they got busted?
I think some guys were just getting off to get off because that's, like you said, that was part of the game.
A lot of fucking people do steroids.
brendan schaub
In every sport.
ian mccall
Like, I mean, you go to any sport.
unidentified
What percentage do you think it is, personally, in MMA? MMA? Maybe...
joe rogan
Maybe turn the...
ian mccall
Sorry, I got distracted.
That's a bitch called it.
Yeah, bitch.
joe rogan
She's a beast, man.
ian mccall
She is.
joe rogan
She throws bombs.
aubrey marcus
She fought in Sacramento, too, right?
joe rogan
She's got those tree trunk legs, man.
unidentified
I'd say 50% of UFC fighters don't do steroids.
brendan schaub
I think it depends on weight class.
ian mccall
Yeah, it's true.
I'd waste weight class also.
eddie bravo
What do you think most of the steroids is prominent?
unidentified
85?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Why would you say that?
I'm curious, actually, why the weight class has an issue with why that would be.
brendan schaub
I mean, look at the guys.
If you just look at people who have been caught, it's usually the heavier weight class.
ian mccall
Yeah, that's true.
brendan schaub
When that Ali Bagatinov got caught, that Russian dude on EPO, what the fuck?
You're 125 pounds.
joe rogan
What are you doing taking EPO? Well, he's going with Mighty Mouse, and his game is very kinetic.
brendan schaub
I don't give a fuck.
If you don't have the cardio, at 125 pounds, you gotta take EPO. For sure, just go do something else.
joe rogan
You know what it is, oh man?
I think it's first fight that he's fighting five rounds.
Probably worried about that.
And also, he's very physical.
Like, everything he does, like...
ian mccall
100%, yeah.
joe rogan
Where Mighty Mouse is loose as fuck.
ian mccall
It's very technical.
brendan schaub
I hear you.
I get all this.
These are all great points.
You're 125 pounds.
joe rogan
No, you're right.
You're right.
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
You have cardio four days.
joe rogan
You're right.
brendan schaub
It's what you do.
joe rogan
First of all, and I don't give a fuck if you're 300 pounds or 200 pounds.
You're not supposed to cheat.
So he cheated, he fucked up, he did a bad thing.
And when you're cheating, it's not just that everybody's doing it.
Here's the deal.
You're going to be able to do damage that you wouldn't have been able to do.
Let's just be honest.
Your opponent is going to suffer.
If you cheat, the reality is it's not like football.
It's not like you getting across a line quicker.
You're going to land shots that you wouldn't have been able to land.
I mean, all speculation aside about individuals that we can see pre and post getting popped.
There's plenty of examples to draw from.
We don't need to talk about any of them.
But the reality is, they're bad because your opponent can get hit when they might not be getting hit.
brendan schaub
But this is the problem, it's the training.
unidentified
Like Vitor Belfort spinning heel kick.
brendan schaub
Well, if he's on steroids, he's going to be able to practice that, what, 500 times more, 1,000 times more?
So it's going to be in his wheelhouse now, you know what I'm saying?
Now it's in his book of tools.
joe rogan
What was crazy is he didn't have to be on steroids.
He got legal testosterone, which is so squirrely.
The fact that they allowed that for so long is so squirrely.
Look, the shit works.
And especially when you're on like Vitor levels.
josh olin
Vitor had 1475 was his blood level.
joe rogan
A normal person's like 600. That's like a healthy man.
Yeah, not in training.
When you're in training, you're worn the fuck out.
You're beat down, man.
ian mccall
200, 300. Yeah.
joe rogan
So when you're jacked up like that, yeah man, you can make some gains.
brendan schaub
He looks like a welterweight now.
I love Vitor.
unidentified
He does.
brendan schaub
I've trained with Vitor, a good guy.
He looks like a welterweight now.
joe rogan
It's insane.
brendan schaub
You can't count him out, though.
joe rogan
You cannot count him out.
brendan schaub
Hell no.
joe rogan
You can't count him out.
His fucking striking is nasty.
ian mccall
He's kicking you in the fucking head.
joe rogan
Yep.
His striking is nasty.
eddie bravo
What if he goes down really easily?
joe rogan
Well, that would be rough.
People are going to be afraid to get off steroids.
unidentified
You get off, they're going to just say, I'm going to stay on.
eddie bravo
If I get off, I'm going to get crushed.
So I'm going to stay on.
brendan schaub
He's in trouble, man, because Weidman's not on that shit, and Weidman is a fucking monster.
joe rogan
He's a beast.
brendan schaub
He's a horrible matchup, even You know what that's like, man?
eddie bravo
They just don't comment, right?
joe rogan
That's like gay dudes who are anti-gay preachers.
They always exist.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
unidentified
Have you seen a preacher that's like, we've got to stop these homosexuals!
They're running around having ass sex and creating Ebola!
Those motherfuckers, those motherfuckers are almost all like, cut!
joe rogan
Cut!
Give me a dick, quick!
ian mccall
Have you seen the African?
Oh yeah.
Oh my god.
unidentified
They eat the poo-poo.
Eat the poo-poo!
Yeah.
ian mccall
Oh my god.
He sticks his fist in his anise.
joe rogan
It's so awful.
Makako, man.
Look at that.
Makako's in this dude's corner.
Makako's still rocking it after all these years.
Makako knocked out Jacare in Jacare's first MMA fight, man.
ian mccall
Damn.
joe rogan
That dude's been all round.
He had wars with Pele back when Pele was the fucking man.
When Pele was the shoot-the-box man.
Pele brought in Anderson Silva, apparently.
That's the word.
ian mccall
He was a badass back then.
unidentified
Fuck yeah, he was.
joe rogan
Remember when he knocked out Matt Hughes, that flying knee?
God damn, Pele was...
He had vicious Muay Thai.
Vicious.
aubrey marcus
Is that Drake?
unidentified
Jake...
joe rogan
No, that's not Drake.
Jake...
His name is Lucas Martins.
Both of these...
Both these guys are tough as shit.
Darren Elkins is just fucking country tough.
brendan schaub
Straight country tough.
joe rogan
He's one of those dudes, you fucking, you meet him in some dirty honky-tonk with sawdust on the floor.
Like, come on, man, you wanna go do this?
You wanna go fucking do this outside?
You're like, I'll be right back.
I'm gonna knock this fucking dude out.
First pump, hit him in the forehead, your hand breaks, he smiles at you.
brendan schaub
You came out to that country song, too.
ian mccall
You still wanna do this?
joe rogan
You broke your hand, didn't you?
Doesn't get tired.
Takes bombs.
aubrey marcus
But he's gotta fight Drake.
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
Drake makes shit rhyme really good.
aubrey marcus
25 sitting on 25 mil.
joe rogan
He's a good wrestler too.
Those wrestlers, man, guys who have that background in fucking amateur wrestling are so used to torture.
ian mccall
I went to a wrestling room the other day.
My kickboxing coach, training partner, Romeo Danza, he's got a handful of titles and shit.
His daughter is a freshman.
And we're sitting at the pool and the bell rings.
Oh, this is a wrestling practice now.
I was like, what?
A freshman at the fucking high school.
So I'm like, we're going to the room.
I'm going there and check all these fucking kids.
And I realized why I'm so fucked up.
It's wrestling.
joe rogan
That's what fucked up your head?
ian mccall
Oh, it just made me crazy.
Sitting in some hot-ass room, fucking getting tortured and getting beat up.
My coach was a world champion at 17 from Iran, and then he left.
He left the country and then couldn't wrestle in the Olympics, which he probably would have won because he didn't have his green card.
joe rogan
Wow.
ian mccall
So he would bring in all these super badasses to just kick the shit out of me my whole high school career.
joe rogan
They have a deep, deep background in wrestling, man.
ian mccall
They fucking tortured me.
joe rogan
Remember the Iron Sheik?
brendan schaub
We're talking legit wrestling here, man.
joe rogan
The Iron Sheik was a legit wrestler.
I interviewed him.
eddie bravo
I had him in a car.
joe rogan
He was legit.
brendan schaub
Legit.
joe rogan
I'm not kidding you, man.
He was a world-class amateur wrestler.
eddie bravo
I interviewed him for like an hour.
brendan schaub
I don't want to know.
joe rogan
He's a good dude, man.
He came on stage with me in Toronto.
I did this weed show in Toronto.
They do this show.
It's like the underground comedy show.
They do it in a weed store.
And the weed store is like a bong shop in the front and a comedy club in the back.
And you go into the back and you can't see ten feet in front of you.
You are in the clouds, man.
I'm not joking.
It's ridiculous.
It's the worst hot box ever.
No ventilation whatsoever.
Every now and then again, they open up the back door so nobody dies.
That's it.
There's no air in the room.
unidentified
You're breathing in weed.
joe rogan
You're breathing in weed, breathing out weed.
The whole room is filled with weed.
The Iron Sheik was in there getting high as fuck.
And he came on stage while I was up there.
There's a video of it online.
It's hilarious.
Me and him just talking on stage.
But yeah, Iranians.
ian mccall
So imagine me at 15, 16, cutting weight in a fucking sauna, and I have some 40-year-old Iranian dude massaging me, rubbing my back in a credit card, down all my sweat, and people are looking at us like, what the fuck?
Why is that man making that little boy sweat?
joe rogan
Scratching that little boy.
Hey, sir, you can't buy him that way.
ian mccall
He'd be muttering to me in Farsi.
joe rogan
You can't just scan him, sir.
ian mccall
Cash only, sir.
joe rogan
If you want to fuck him, you're going to have to hold him down.
ian mccall
Oh, and I realized the same 24-hour fitness we always went to in Aliso Viejo was a gay hangout.
unidentified
Holla!
joe rogan
Eddie and I worked out at 24 Hour Fitness and there was this dude who was the manager there.
He was a cool guy.
We used to talk to him.
And they had sent him over from the Santa Monica place.
He was like a real personable, real friendly guy, real easy to like.
And so the Santa Monica place brought him in because they needed to get that place cleaned out because it had basically become just a fuckhouse.
eddie bravo
They'd have to close the showers an hour to hose them down.
joe rogan
There'd be cum everywhere.
There'd be cum and condoms and more cum.
ian mccall
My buddy ended up working at the same place and they used to have to trap dudes, gay dudes that were fucking in the sauna and stuff.
joe rogan
Trapped them?
unidentified
Call the cops and told the cops.
That's how people die, bro.
brendan schaub
Don't trap me in the sauna and make me fuck my way out.
unidentified
I will do it.
eddie bravo
Are you ready?
ian mccall
Are you ready?
You better let me out of here, man.
unidentified
That's a fucking great quote.
joe rogan
Somebody has to take a picture of you with the meme.
unidentified
Don't make me fuck my way out of here.
Undergarden, make a meme of that, please.
ian mccall
Just a blurred out line.
joe rogan
Oh shit, that's funny.
Holy shit, that's funny.
Don't make me fuck my way out of here.
This dude was such a good guy.
And he was telling us that basically the gay guys had just had a run of the place.
They were just dominating the place.
Because it was all them.
And they realized, I don't think there's anybody straight here.
unidentified
Fuck it!
joe rogan
Rock out with their cocks out.
I guess they probably had some gay managers and they had to clean that shit up and they brought in our friend.
eddie bravo
I had to work out there once.
The gym that I normally worked out, they closed it for filming.
And I was with Larry.
This was back in the Larry days.
And Larry goes, dude, let's just fucking go to the West Hollywood one.
I go, dude, I'm not going to the West Hollywood one.
unidentified
I've never been there.
eddie bravo
You just hear the stories.
I heard these stories.
I had to get that workout in, and then he talked me into it.
I go, fuck it, let's just go in there real quick.
Let's get our chest on and get the fuck out.
I swear to God, I was standing there, me and Larry were working on, you know, we were like benching like a 45 planar on each side, and a guy next to me had nothing.
ian mccall
Just dicks everywhere?
eddie bravo
And he asked me, you know, he just asked me, he goes, what is this for?
Caught me off guard!
I go, it's for your chest and your packs.
brendan schaub
You got me!
joe rogan
Why does it make my butt want to be filled?
unidentified
It's for your chest!
joe rogan
Fuck!
brendan schaub
It just sounds like they're having a good time and someone fucking hated on them.
unidentified
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Who's the snitch, man?
joe rogan
100%.
Well, there was this one straight dude who worked out there that lived next door.
He was like, this is ridiculous.
brendan schaub
Carey's getting his dick sucked in the sauna.
ian mccall
How do you line up the street?
This is bullshit.
joe rogan
This is my fucking home gym.
I was looking at this apartment.
There's a gym right next door.
The guy's from Wisconsin.
He doesn't know shit about fucking Santa Monica Boulevard.
unidentified
That's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Everybody here looks really fit.
I guess I'm in a fit community.
Everyone's walking around with jean shorts on.
unidentified
Shut up, jean shorts.
brendan schaub
Cut off jean shorts?
joe rogan
Rollerblading in jean shorts might be the gayest thing ever.
ian mccall
There's a millions of milkshakes right here.
joe rogan
You have to be sucking a dick while you're rollerblading to make it gayer.
Darren Elkins.
ian mccall
Probably happened.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's happened for sure.
Someone sucked a dick while rollerblading.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
100%.
There's probably been a dude that was mounted on a dude's face like he's doing a flying triangle while they were rolling down Venice Boulevard.
It's probably happened.
In all the years that there have been blowjobs and rollerblades, it's for sure happened.
eddie bravo
What percentage of flights, domestic flights, have gay sex going on in them?
joe rogan
One percent.
I'd say 60. No, I'd say 60. All the Stewarters are gay.
eddie bravo
They're all gay.
unidentified
60%.
ian mccall
Stewart's or Stewart's?
eddie bravo
And you know what I'm saying?
ian mccall
Come on.
unidentified
Come on.
That's got it.
eddie bravo
They love fucking anonymous.
ian mccall
Like, you know what?
eddie bravo
If we were all gay, we would all be into the same shit.
Guys were guys.
joe rogan
This room would be a mess.
unidentified
We're all a very obvious type, too.
Come on, what are they known for?
eddie bravo
Anonymous sex in bathrooms and bathhouses and all that shit?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, man.
brendan schaub
That's totally normal.
unidentified
That's how we would all be if we were all gay.
eddie bravo
If I was gay, I'd probably be doing the same shit.
ian mccall
My question is, even if you're not gay, it's kind of right.
brendan schaub
We can't.
eddie bravo
Chicks ain't down for that kind of stuff.
unidentified
They don't want anonymous sex in bathrooms.
brendan schaub
Not all of them, my man.
joe rogan
Let's not generalize.
Let's not generalize.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's a couple...
joe rogan
That's making shit unusual.
brendan schaub
You haven't seen my Instagram, my man.
eddie bravo
Crackheads don't count.
brendan schaub
You haven't seen my Instagram.
joe rogan
There's a few gals out there that just don't follow the rules.
And a lot of women get very upset at them.
unidentified
Don't follow the rules?
joe rogan
A lot of women get very upset at them.
unidentified
Why is it a rule?
joe rogan
Why there gotta be rules?
I don't think...
I'm with you, buddy.
I'm not trying to cock-block here.
I'm just trying to let you know...
unidentified
Just saying, that's the exception.
joe rogan
...how the gals are looking at it.
unidentified
I would say...
joe rogan
They're like, one of these bitches is fucking ruining the curve.
That's why when legalized prostitution moves into a country, chicks just get married.
Like, look, we just gotta lock this down.
unidentified
We just...
joe rogan
This is what it is.
unidentified
My shit lost value.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
eddie bravo
Your country's about to legalize prostitution with the overall consensus of women.
They gotta be worried.
They're on forums and shit.
unidentified
What does this mean?
eddie bravo
Some girls don't even care.
Like, I don't care.
Don't you see what this means?
joe rogan
They're not gonna need us anymore.
unidentified
I'd be like the Debo of whores.
brendan schaub
I'd walk up and be like, God damn it.
They do not want to see me.
joe rogan
How come you haven't called me in days?
Working like crazy.
eddie bravo
Girls have zero power in countries where prostitution is illegal.
Like in Argentina, they have zero power.
There's nothing.
joe rogan
It's not a good thing.
That's how it works in those conquering countries.
That's what it was like back in the Genghis Khan days.
Feminism is what's keeping prostitution illegal.
Because if it became illegal...
We would just block them all on Twitter.
We'd never have to hear a word out of them.
They'd be like, yeah, keep yapping over there.
ian mccall
Why are feminists listening to your shit?
Because I got talked shit to for a while by some gay feminists.
joe rogan
You know what, man?
ian mccall
Last time I was under a family, I'm a homophobe.
joe rogan
No, you're not a homophobe.
I'm not into anybody who's only into one gender.
eddie bravo
Oh, look at this.
He's trying to go with a ninja choke right there from the top.
joe rogan
Right there.
ian mccall
Look at that.
joe rogan
Couldn't quite get it around.
He had his elbow in front of it instead of behind it.
You know what I feel like, man?
I'm not into dudes who are into men's rights either.
Guys who identify themselves as really...
He's going for it again on the other side, Eddie.
Guys who are really into men's rights.
unidentified
Who's into men's rights?
joe rogan
What do you mean?
There's groups.
Men's rights.
I was insulted by a feminist.
She called me an MRA. I didn't even have a conversation with her.
She misconstrues my point.
I'm not a men's right.
I didn't even know what an MRA was.
So I had to look it up.
I thought it was one of those meal packages you get when you're in the army.
MRE. Yeah, but it was a, um, it's a fucking bomb that hasn't been exploded.
It was a fucking men's rights advocate, and I went, no way.
Is that what she's saying?
And then I'm like, wow, how ironic is it that a feminist would be mocking a guy who's into male rights?
Like, are you telling me that men don't have any, like, what does that mean?
Men don't deserve rights?
Like, how could you be mocking someone?
Oh, you're one of those dumb, dumb MREs.
unidentified
They're really confusing me, because some of the shit they say.
joe rogan
Get you fucking out of here!
unidentified
Ah!
Somebody made the meme already.
joe rogan
Kid's looking very sexy in that picture.
brendan schaub
Tell you what, a real cutie pie.
It was a good day on camera.
joe rogan
Stud muffin.
Looked perfectly bronzed.
Yeah, man.
You know, I think that a lot of feminists...
Feminism is women who identify themselves with being a feminist.
And as soon as you start doing that, it becomes like a thing you do.
Like, I'm into cosplay.
brendan schaub
That's their thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm into fucking...
I love bowling, you know?
brendan schaub
For sure find something else to do.
joe rogan
I'm a feminist.
Like, you know, feminist blogger.
Okay.
Well, you know, I like to play pool.
brendan schaub
Well, that's how they identify it, right?
unidentified
Well, yeah, it sort of segregates you, though, too.
Now it creates, it's like you're trying to, like, break that wall down.
Now you're creating a wall, I think, when you do shit like that, you know?
joe rogan
Or it lets you know to not hang out with her.
unidentified
It's too much work.
brendan schaub
We have no boyfriend.
No guy's gonna put up with that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, those guys are gonna put up.
Fuck you, they're no guys.
eddie bravo
No guy I know.
joe rogan
No guy I know.
But there's a lot of social, what they call social justice warriors.
These social justice warriors.
Yeah, white knights.
Fucking douchebags.
It's all men that, you know, under normal circumstances would starve to death.
They would, if we were all in hunting parties, they would be limping back there.
We'd send them.
ian mccall
People like us would be fucking eating them.
joe rogan
Something bad would happen.
brendan schaub
Fucking them or eating them.
ian mccall
You'd be fucking them, I'd be eating them.
unidentified
You want to eat a dude?
Back in the day, the Spartan days, they would raid those cities.
ian mccall
Alright, fine, I'll fucking with you.
brendan schaub
They'd fuck some dudes and eat them.
eddie bravo
Can I ask Aubrey a question about stevia?
brendan schaub
Maybe it's a different thing.
ian mccall
I want to ask you this question.
eddie bravo
Stevia, good or bad?
It's good, right?
unidentified
It's good.
It's not bad.
Why isn't vitamin water?
eddie bravo
Because they use stevia.
Why aren't they blasting that?
For some reason, no one knows they use stevia.
joe rogan
They always use stevia.
eddie bravo
But they use stevia, and then they use something else.
aubrey marcus
They use a bunch of sugar, too.
eddie bravo
They use other stuff, too.
But they use stevia, but you would think that they would blast it.
aubrey marcus
I don't know.
You've got to ask 50 Cent, man.
joe rogan
We're missing a good fucking fight, man.
aubrey marcus
You've got to ask 50 Cent.
brendan schaub
We don't know.
unidentified
Isn't that weird?
aubrey marcus
I don't know what they're supposed to do.
brendan schaub
Why wouldn't they be blasting it?
aubrey marcus
Yeah.
It's not good for you, it's just not bad.
brendan schaub
He's got really good shots, man.
joe rogan
He can take it, man.
That's part of the style.
Oh, that head kick rocked him, and that was behind the ear, too.
Oh, on the chin with that one.
He's just so damn tough, man.
So hard to finish that dude.
That was why it was so impressive.
He lost to Mendez.
Mendez lit him up, man.
Mendez looked like a monster in that fight.
brendan schaub
Who's taking Mendez?
Anyone taking Mendez in here?
aubrey marcus
I'm taking Mendez.
unidentified
Nope.
brendan schaub
I like you guys' style.
ian mccall
I don't think it's going to happen.
joe rogan
I like you guys' style.
aubrey marcus
He's a little bit like a drag racer, though.
You know, he's just going to fucking...
unidentified
Strike boring it?
joe rogan
Well, so is Aldo, by the way.
Aldo's a three-round motherfucker, and then the last two rounds, Ricardo Lamas was on top of him beating his ass in that fifth round, and that's reality.
ian mccall
The thing is, they say all the strides he's made, which he has, but he's not TJ. He's not going to move like that and beat...
brendan schaub
He has more power, I feel like, though.
ian mccall
Oh, he does.
unidentified
He definitely does.
ian mccall
But I just don't...
I think Aldo's too good.
And I think Aldo has always been better than Burrell, anyways.
Technically.
Because he's so precise, you know?
Where Burrell's a little more wild and good.
They're both awesome.
unidentified
I agree.
ian mccall
But I think that I don't think...
unidentified
He's more accurate.
ian mccall
Yeah, I don't think Chad can beat Aldo.
Anyone can beat anybody, but I don't think he's going to.
I just think that he doesn't move like TJ. He's not going to outstrike Aldo, which I think he thinks he's going to.
aubrey marcus
He's got Master Splinter in his corner, though.
unidentified
It's true.
I was wrong on TJ. I thought TJ was going to get beat up.
ian mccall
So I was wrong there.
joe rogan
What do you think about fucking Dominic Cruz?
God damn, did he look like a beast.
ian mccall
Proud of him, man.
unidentified
Oh, my bad.
brendan schaub
You want that, Steven?
Bro, I brought in Daniel Cormier to my camp.
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw the photo.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and he brought in Dominic Cruz with him.
Dominic's trying to show us this footwork.
He's like, Sean, this is what you gotta do.
Show me in D.C. Like, real quick, man.
You're way smaller than us.
That stuff, it's just not gonna fit in our wheelhouse, my man.
eddie bravo
Gustafson's trying to do that shit.
ian mccall
Yeah, but you know Travis.
joe rogan
Travis moves a lot like that.
brendan schaub
I guess.
ian mccall
I guess.
unidentified
I mean, yeah, that's like saying, yeah, and I throw a right hook like Mike Tyson.
brendan schaub
Yeah, we both throw right hooks.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, jeez, man.
eddie bravo
He's pretty good at that Dominic Cruz thing.
brendan schaub
He's alright.
I mean, it's a far cry from the original.
joe rogan
Dominic Cruz took it to another Dominic Cruz level the other day, though.
eddie bravo
Dude, another level.
brendan schaub
I've never been so happy for another fighter that I don't train with.
I was so happy for him.
joe rogan
That kid showed zero hesitation, too.
He came out guns blazing.
Just guns blazing.
brendan schaub
A lot of tough guys, too.
joe rogan
Fuck, yeah.
Mitsugaki can take it.
brendan schaub
He's a beast.
joe rogan
I know Uriah finished him, but he got his back and choked him, and, you know, Mitsugaki's just not the same kind of grappler Uriah is.
eddie bravo
Oh, damn.
brendan schaub
Bro, bring in DC into the camp.
aubrey marcus
Nice.
brendan schaub
Monster.
joe rogan
Look at that fucking combo.
brendan schaub
Monster, Joe.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure.
unidentified
I'm sure.
Where's your camp at?
brendan schaub
It's here, LA. I'm based at LA. Nice.
joe rogan
So, what is it like working out with him?
How's his knee?
brendan schaub
His knee's 100%.
joe rogan
He rehabbed it?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's this pressure he brings.
I've never seen anything like it.
joe rogan
Never.
brendan schaub
I've trained with a ton of guys.
joe rogan
That's Kane.
brendan schaub
Dude, the pressure, he just keeps coming, keeps coming, keeps coming.
joe rogan
That's him and Kane, man.
Those guys, they're two werewolves.
unidentified
Yep.
eddie bravo
Who keeps coming?
joe rogan
Fuckin' attacking each other at night.
brendan schaub
I brought Cormier in for my camp and he's a monster.
joe rogan
You ever watch them spar?
ian mccall
No, I wish.
I'd love to see that.
Fuck.
joe rogan
I've seen some videos of them spar.
It is goddamn ridiculous.
unidentified
I bet.
joe rogan
It's a war.
It's just war.
Chaos.
unidentified
Yeah, punching and stuff.
joe rogan
Beating each other shitless.
unidentified
Well, they have the same style.
joe rogan
The same style and both guys are going 100%.
I mean, they're fucking going to war.
And I wonder about that, man.
Obviously, you can't fuck with the results.
Kane is the best heavyweight next to Fedor ever, right?
I mean, there's Fedor in him and that's it.
ian mccall
Easily.
joe rogan
And I would love to see the two of them together.
Who knows what the fuck would have happened.
Who knows, if you watched the two Junior Dos Santos fights since the first fight, you wouldn't think that Junior could knock him out, but Junior knocked him out.
Anything can happen.
Fedor was a risk-taking motherfucker.
You know, Fedor, he would get wild on your ass.
ian mccall
Fucking bricks on the end of his arms.
Bricks.
joe rogan
Through those casting punches.
unidentified
Yeah, he was never scared.
joe rogan
Never scared.
unidentified
The way he waded in, never scared.
joe rogan
So that guy could...
I mean, he literally could have beaten anybody when he was at his best.
brendan schaub
But you look at Kane's injuries, it's kind of like...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he keeps beating the shit out of his body, man.
brendan schaub
There you go.
joe rogan
It's from training.
They're going 100%.
They're going 100%, man.
ian mccall
I've turned my sparring down in my career now that I'm 30 now, and I'm old, but I've just been fucking injured a lot.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of people that think that the sparring is one of the unnecessary aspects of strength and conditioning that people overdo.
Because you're beating each other up so much, and there's so much trauma that you reach a point of diminishing returns.
Like, yeah, are you tough?
Yeah.
Can you mentally deal with it because you're dealing with it on a regular basis?
Yes.
But...
Could you be 2% better if you didn't do that?
Could you be 3%, maybe 5%?
unidentified
I don't think you can take it completely out, but you can't take it completely out.
joe rogan
Nope.
No way.
No chance.
brendan schaub
You can do, like, Manny Pacquiao spars only the last four weeks of camp.
Really, we only spar the last six weeks of camp.
I do an eight-week camp.
We only spar the last six weeks of camp.
joe rogan
And how many times a week do you spar?
brendan schaub
Once.
joe rogan
Once a week.
That's smart.
brendan schaub
That once a week, we're bringing some hellraisers, man.
joe rogan
It's some monsters.
As long as you're simulating scenarios, using techniques that are going to come up in a fight, and drilling them over again.
unidentified
Drilling.
There you go.
joe rogan
You know, Eddie always talks about this.
About how if you just fucking...
Everybody loves to roll.
But if you just drilled more, it would make you so much more successful at your rolls.
And it's really essentially the same way with any martial art.
I mean, with kickboxing, if you just beat the shit out of each other all the time, yeah, I guess you're probably going to get better because you're putting a lot of attention to it.
But if you work out with a really good, like, Rob Kamen-type coach or Dwayne Ludwig-type coach who takes you through very specific drills, once you're actually sparring and you land that left of the body, it's like your right leg is coming around whether you think about it or not.
It's just that.
It's just a part of your body's memory.
And I think that we still don't know what the right way to do this shit.
You guys are, you two guys are like experimental projects.
Ten years from for real, right?
You guys are the new breed of MMA fighters.
brendan schaub
We're like the monkeys they launched in space.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
The cauliflower.
That's what we are.
ian mccall
You're an ape.
unidentified
Me and me both.
When I'm a gorilla, you're like one of those little spider monkeys.
ian mccall
Jacking off and shitting on everything.
brendan schaub
Cutie as fuck, though.
joe rogan
Shaw, be like one of those fucking killer chimpanzees they found in the Congo.
unidentified
The hairless one?
Six foot tall.
brendan schaub
The old dick.
joe rogan
Do you know about those?
brendan schaub
Do we see the same one?
joe rogan
Do you know about those?
No.
They have these, over the last, since the 90s, they found these chimps in the Congo that they've always talked about.
They had a photo of one that was shot in the early 1900s.
They call him the Bondo ape.
It's an enormous chimpanzee, a completely different genus.
unidentified
Is that the one that stands up?
joe rogan
They stand up and they have a crest on their skull just like a gorilla does.
But they're chimps and they sleep on the ground.
They don't give a fuck.
The locals call them lion killers.
They have a video of one apparently eating a leopard.
They have two different types of chimp.
They call them tree beaters and lion killers.
And these are the lion killers.
And they're giant.
Six foot tall, 350 pound chimps.
And they sleep on the ground like this Wapping their dick while they pass out and everything just fucking steers clear these crazy fucks Thank I think of a champ how strong a chimp is and they're like 150 pounds.
This is double the size six feet tall super smart They have pictures of them all over the internet like walking I haven't heard of them.
Like, walking like a person.
There's Carl Armand.
He's a Swiss wildlife photographer.
And he found photos of them and spent years looking for them.
But apparently, it's an incredibly remote part of the Congo that's super difficult to get to.
But just now, these people that are fucking risking their lives in this crazy, shitty part of the world are going over there.
These monkeys are aggressive?
Oh, of course they are!
One of them, there's a fucking great story about these scientists that went down there, and one of them made a fucking bluff charge at them, and they didn't move.
You can't move.
You're dead anyway.
So you've got to stay on your ground, because if you do back up, they're for sure going to fuck you up.
brendan schaub
And they rip your nuts off first.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
eddie bravo
They know that, right?
brendan schaub
Everyone knows that, right?
They go, genitals, face.
joe rogan
They know what works.
They know what you like.
unidentified
Early UFC rules.
joe rogan
They're smart as shit.
They're like halfway between a person and an animal.
brendan schaub
That's insane.
unidentified
But way fucking strong.
eddie bravo
Why aren't they ripping balls off?
joe rogan
If you had a monkey that was 150 pounds and he wanted to fuck you up, you'd be in a giant problem.
He would probably kill you.
Most likely they would rip you apart.
Imagine something twice that big.
Twice that big and super aggressive, and the locals call them lion killers.
And we just barely know about these things.
They have DNA from them, they have some photographs and some videos, but they barely know these fucking things exist.
It's in a very difficult spot to get to.
brendan schaub
I want one as a pet.
aubrey marcus
You might end up as the pet is the fucking problem.
brendan schaub
Imagine just being a pet or a best friend.
ian mccall
- That's one animal I got.
brendan schaub
- Or a training partner.
unidentified
Training partner.
brendan schaub
Imagine armbarning that monster.
joe rogan
- Well, imagine the armbarning you.
eddie bravo
- Imagine if you start flying in Bondo apes to train with.
brendan schaub
Next podcast, who you train with, Bondo apes?
joe rogan
- Dude, I'll fly here.
eddie bravo
- They gotta take babies and then train 'em and bring 'em up.
They can't take 'em.
If they're already adults, forget it.
joe rogan
- Hannibal Lecter masks on their face so they don't get crazy in the middle of training.
brendan schaub
- Just a guillard.
joe rogan
- Most of the time, he doesn't bite.
aubrey marcus
- The wheel kicks would be insane.
joe rogan
- But when he bites, he doesn't bite.
eddie bravo
- It would be a hammer fist and a wheel kick They would just go boom.
joe rogan
Can you imagine if you taught a chimp how to do a guillotine?
What that would feel like?
ian mccall
Pop your head off.
joe rogan
Especially with the big giant ones.
Darren Elkins won a decision.
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
That's tough to do.
joe rogan
Wow.
We were barely paying attention though, let's be honest.
brendan schaub
No, we're talking about...
aubrey marcus
We're talking about monkeys.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're talking about monkeys biting dicks off, son.
ian mccall
I'm still thinking about you trying to fuck everyone.
You trying to fuck that bond away, but who's going to get who?
joe rogan
Rafael Dos Anjos.
Who is he fighting?
He's fighting someone good.
Oh, that's right.
eddie bravo
Nate Diaz is coming back.
joe rogan
Nate Diaz is coming back.
He's fighting Dos Anjos.
brendan schaub
Dos Anjos is a monster.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's tough as shit, dude.
I can't believe he knocked out Henderson.
brendan schaub
And he beat Cowboy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he beat Cowboy.
brendan schaub
Think about it, man.
He's a beast.
joe rogan
He beat a couple guys.
He's beat quite a few really good guys.
But knocking out Benson is fucking huge, man.
Fabio Maldonado.
brendan schaub
Maldonado is always fun to watch.
joe rogan
He's the human zombie.
ian mccall
Piss before I see this.
eddie bravo
This is pay-per-view.
brendan schaub
The old body shot.
Maldonado.
joe rogan
Maldonado, don't play.
He's got really good left hook, man.
Look how smooth his boxing is.
He's a perfect example of the exact opposite of a guy like Bagutinov.
He's a big guy.
I mean, he's fighting, you know, 205. But yet, he's like super light and relaxed with his punches.
He made a big mistake, fucking Stipe, though.
brendan schaub
Did he have a choice?
He asked for the fight.
No, I'm saying he asked for the fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's that animal.
Look at that picture up there.
That's the Bondo ape.
That was one that they shot in the early 1900s.
See if you can get a better picture of that, because they show its whole body.
But look at the other one, Jamie.
There's one that they shot at an airport recently, these two guys, and they're standing in front of it, so you get a perspective shot at how big this fucking thing is.
unidentified
In that picture you were talking about at the airport?
joe rogan
No, well, that's a different one.
That's one that they caught in a camera trap.
But this picture of one that they shot, it's actually dead.
And these dudes are standing with this thing.
And you look at it and you go, what is that?
Probably because they could.
I mean, they live in the Congo.
They eat chimps there.
They eat whatever kind of meat they can get.
brendan schaub
Oh, bro, I saw your Real Sports.
joe rogan
No, that's another image of one, too.
Yeah, the Real Sports.
No, just look up Bondo Ape.
And if that doesn't work, look up B-I-L-I Ape.
brendan schaub
Look at Bondo Ape, Shob Training Partner, UFC 181. There's an image search.
joe rogan
I got it.
You got it?
There's a dead one.
There it is.
Look at the size of that fucking thing.
Look at the size of that fucking thing.
Back up so you can see it's balls.
Back up a little.
Look at that sack.
Look at that sack and cock.
brendan schaub
How'd they kill it?
Just shot it in the head or something?
joe rogan
Yeah, they didn't kill it with a fucking wiffle ball bat, I'll tell you that.
You better shoot that thing.
Look at those fucking muscles on that goddamn thing.
It's a gorilla!
brendan schaub
He's smiling, too.
Gorillas are...
eddie bravo
Are they bigger?
joe rogan
Gorillas are bigger.
But that's like gorilla size.
For a chimp, that is fucking enormous.
That's like a really big man.
brendan schaub
Got a set of tits on him.
joe rogan
Look at his arms, dude.
Those are like your legs.
ian mccall
Where's his dick?
brendan schaub
You can't miss it, my man.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
Look at that fucking package.
Lee's ball sack.
aubrey marcus
It's just all...
unidentified
It's all in your face.
eddie bravo
Is that the thing?
joe rogan
Is it leaning to the left?
Yeah, the thing that's leaning on his leg.
eddie bravo
It's leaning to the left.
joe rogan
That fucking picture freaks me out, man.
unidentified
Is that the thing?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's his to the left.
eddie bravo
Or is that just the stomach crease?
joe rogan
That's his cack.
That's his cack right there.
aubrey marcus
That's his big old dick.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
brendan schaub
I don't think that's his cack.
joe rogan
Well, they don't have big dicks like people do, bro.
They're big balls, right?
They're big balls.
This is actually a scientific fact.
The ball size is directly proportionate to the amount of promiscuous females in the region.
And that includes human beings.
In villages where human women are more slutty, the human men grow bigger balls.
ian mccall
That's huge.
Orange County!
Newport Beach!
unidentified
It's in the air!
Exactly.
ian mccall
Why do you think I import my girlfriend?
I was like, you know what?
unidentified
Good move.
joe rogan
Go out of state.
ian mccall
Exactly.
unidentified
Go out of state for a gal with some morals.
ian mccall
Small town girl.
In the mountains.
joe rogan
Too many people in Orange County.
They have to fuck.
There's too much traffic.
They just do it.
It's just fuck.
Can't wait for my boyfriend to get here.
Come on over here.
He's stuck in traffic for the next two hours.
So, Fabio Maldonado versus Hans Stringer.
Anybody know anything about Stringer?
Stringer?
aubrey marcus
1-0 in the UFC. Is it Stringer?
ian mccall
He's about to get punched the fuck up.
brendan schaub
From the Netherlands?
It's going to be a stand-up war for sure.
joe rogan
He has a victory over...
Francimar Barroso in one of the fight nights.
Third round decision.
unidentified
Hmm.
ian mccall
Maldonado's a fucking badass.
joe rogan
Oh, he's a beast, dude.
His boxing's really slick.
Remember when he clipped Glover?
Glover's lighting him up, dude.
Lighting him up.
And then, dink!
He catches him with a left hook and has Glover doing the chicken dance.
But he's just so tough, man.
brendan schaub
So tough.
joe rogan
This is a guy you don't want to have a conversation with when he's 70. I agree 100. He's almost too tough.
brendan schaub
You know those guys are too tough where they take that punishment?
You're like, please stop this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When he's 70 and he's drunk and you and him are sitting there and he puts his hand on your knee to tell you a story and does that clamp.
You know that clamp that dudes do when they tell you a story?
The clamp on your knee when they start talking.
Bro, fuck!
I told him.
I told him.
I'm not going down.
I'm not going down.
brendan schaub
Tells the same story six times in a row.
unidentified
Are there any UFC legends that have severe slurred speech?
brendan schaub
No comment.
No comment.
aubrey marcus
Or it could be like that old dude that beat the fuck out of that young boxer with the long hair.
joe rogan
Do you see that shit?
unidentified
That old dude's like, he was throwing heat!
joe rogan
You never see that video?
Oh my god, I don't see the video.
ian mccall
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That dude was like 60. Yeah.
60 with an old man back.
He had an old man back.
Like a shrimp.
brendan schaub
Like a big ass shrimp.
ian mccall
But then he started wading in with his hands up and I was like, oh fuck, this guy's screwed.
joe rogan
You know when I knew he was screwed?
Yeah, when he slipped the jab.
He slipped the jab like a goddamn world champion.
brendan schaub
No fucks given about the jab.
Just, uh, boom.
joe rogan
There's that level of boxing you get to where your eyes are open as the punch hits you.
You ever seen those pictures of old school Roberto Duran?
There's a photo of him.
As the punch is hitting him, his eye is wide open and he's throwing a counter shot.
As the punch is hitting him, he's turning his head and landing.
When you hit that level, you're so relaxed.
And that old man was used to getting punched.
ian mccall
That wasn't a new experience.
That kid wanted out.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, he did.
He didn't have to want out.
He was going out.
eddie bravo
Man, bad boy's been around for fucking ever, and it hasn't seemed like they've really blown up.
joe rogan
You know why?
Because so many dudes tattooed it on their body, they go, look, we've got to keep going.
unidentified
Are they making any money?
joe rogan
Jeremy Horn has a bad boy tattoo on his body.
ian mccall
Yeah, they've been around for sure.
eddie bravo
I haven't done one of those yet.
You know what, dude?
If you think about it, that really is the coolest thing for...
I'm a bad boy.
Everybody wants to be a bad boy.
Girls like bad boys.
unidentified
But when did it come to jiu-jitsu or like a Brazilian thing?
Because I remember in like 88, I remember I had like a pair of shorts and a shirt.
ian mccall
It was Rude Boy.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
I remember the logo.
unidentified
And it had a guy with a spiky Johnny Bravo haircut with a spiky...
joe rogan
It's probably...
unidentified
No, I'm talking about...
That was Rude Boys.
No, no, Rude Boys.
brendan schaub
No, that was Bad Boy.
joe rogan
That was Bad Boy.
brendan schaub
Back in the 80s.
eddie bravo
No, I remember.
unidentified
Those eyeballs.
eddie bravo
Do you remember Rude Boy, though?
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember Rude Boy.
unidentified
Do you remember?
eddie bravo
I don't know.
That was first.
ian mccall
I was born in the 80s, so...
unidentified
I don't know.
ian mccall
You guys are all fucking old.
joe rogan
Damn, you were born in the 80s.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
I was getting pussy when you were coming out of pussy.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Hollow.
eddie bravo
I can be your father.
ian mccall
Mom?
joe rogan
I could be your father, dude.
If I fucked up in high school, I'm 84. I was getting pussy in 84. In 84, it was when I was just starting to get pussy.
So I could have fucked up and shot one into my girlfriend.
Jesus, Louisa, speaking about shooting one.
It's so good for you, Brazil.
Powerful genetics.
brendan schaub
Here we go.
Stand-up war.
joe rogan
If anybody's listening to this and they think I don't like Brazil and that's why I'm not there, it couldn't be more further from the truth.
I love Brazil.
brendan schaub
That escalated quickly to the ground.
joe rogan
Yeah, right away.
I love going to Rio.
I didn't have the time this week and I had family obligations.
I just couldn't make it.
I had to stay in town.
ian mccall
Damn kids.
joe rogan
Well, it's that.
There's things I can't talk about, but a lot of stuff going on.
Speaking of...
aubrey marcus
Speaking of badass old dudes, was that judo video real?
unidentified
Yes it was.
joe rogan
Where that guy was floating around?
aubrey marcus
That one blew my fucking mind too.
joe rogan
Have you seen that video I tweeted?
aubrey marcus
Blew my fucking mind.
joe rogan
Jamie, pull that shit up.
That old dude video of the old dude doing judo.
These guys are trying to toss him and he's moving like water.
Just flowing around them and he's like in his 60s.
Another old dude in his 60s.
josh olin
When you know you're almost dead, you give zero fucks.
joe rogan
You're not protecting your ACLs.
You're just out there letting it hang.
You know?
I got a fucking rotator cuff injury.
unidentified
I'm just going to let this dude take me down and work off my back four times in a row.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
The guy's technique is just stellar.
It's also, there's a potential of watching that video that they're his students, and sometimes when you roll with your students, you know, the students almost have like a give up thing.
eddie bravo
A guy comes out with a keto or the death touch, and they have those guys who are just like flipping.
brendan schaub
This is different though.
eddie bravo
I want to talk to those dudes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
What are they about?
joe rogan
They're all crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're all brainwashed.
ian mccall
They're totally brainwashed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
How about your boy Hunt getting the title shot?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Is that wild?
eddie bravo
Do you think those guys, do they make an agreement, like, fucking go with it?
Do they talk about it?
Or is it, like, unsaid?
ian mccall
I think it's unspoken.
Whatever you say, Master.
brendan schaub
I think it's like a cult thing, you know what I'm saying?
Drink this Kool-Aid.
eddie bravo
so they don't really say it's unspoken you think so?
unidentified
we got a quarter of my head there was a lot of money on the line there was a lot of money on the line we're cool right?
joe rogan
we're cool right?
unidentified
I don't even think you have to do that, man.
joe rogan
I don't even think you have to do that.
eddie bravo
It's an important fucking seminar and there's a show in.
brendan schaub
They're in, man.
joe rogan
Dude, I think they're all in.
You would only have the guys that would do it, but you know.
ian mccall
If you don't let me Hadouken you, you can go back to the fucking gym.
joe rogan
Hadouken?
brendan schaub
You called up the assholes who were going to fall down.
joe rogan
Hadouken you.
I would never be able to pull that word off.
I don't even know it.
But I knew what you meant.
Right when you said it, I'd go, I've seen that online.
brendan schaub
Street Fighter, son, right?
ian mccall
Yeah, Street Fighter.
joe rogan
I never really played that game.
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
I mean, I did a few times, but not enough to call Hadouken.
Damn, Fabio Maldonado is getting tagged with that elbow on the top.
ian mccall
Big old Dutchman.
aubrey marcus
Brazil is not happy to see Fabio Maldonado.
joe rogan
Big Brown, when you get in a half-car position in this spot here, do you ground and pound, or do you try to pass?
brendan schaub
I look for submission from half guard.
Most guys like to ground and pound here, especially wrestlers.
Because you can really control a guy out of half guard.
Especially in MMA. You can bore someone to death.
unidentified
True.
brendan schaub
I agree.
ian mccall
You can bore someone to death.
brendan schaub
I like to give him this underhook.
I give him the underhook.
Like I did with Mitreone.
I give him the underhook and I look for my darts.
I look for their neck while they come up.
You don't want him out?
No.
joe rogan
His darts is nasty.
brendan schaub
Especially at heavyweight.
unidentified
Oh, look at this.
brendan schaub
Baldonado with a fucking big rush.
Look at this.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Nice with the hooks, man.
Nice with the hooks.
Oh, beautiful job.
Beautiful job.
Good control.
eddie bravo
So if someone mounted you, you would let them mount you?
Yeah, I don't care.
brendan schaub
I think mounts overrated MMA.
eddie bravo
Oh, so if someone mounted you, you'd be fine?
brendan schaub
100%.
My daycare was Shane Carlin.
eddie bravo
Would you try to regain half guard?
brendan schaub
Yes.
eddie bravo
Why?
brendan schaub
Or create a scramble.
eddie bravo
No, but why would you try to regain half guard?
brendan schaub
Because I can get up easier.
eddie bravo
But if you were in half guard...
joe rogan
Maldonado with a deep half!
eddie bravo
You would stay in half guard.
joe rogan
Stringer stays on top.
You wouldn't mount.
brendan schaub
No, I wouldn't mount.
What I would do is I'd create a scramble.
I'd give them the underhook to create a scramble to get their neck or an arm.
eddie bravo
You hear what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
I see what you're saying.
eddie bravo
If you don't want to mount because it's worse than being in someone's half guard, then if you were being mounted, why would you put them in half guard?
You should just leave them...
brendan schaub
I think it depends on the style.
It depends who you're fighting, too.
joe rogan
If you're fighting for doom, you don't let that motherfucker mount you.
eddie bravo
I don't think you let anybody fucking mount you, ever.
I think when you're in the mount, naturally, as a fighter, you want to recover half guard at least.
brendan schaub
It depends who you're fighting.
I give guys mount to create scrambles.
joe rogan
How crazy is that?
How good is your mount?
brendan schaub
Pretty good.
I've been doing jiu-jitsu for a while.
joe rogan
Right, so if you were mounted on a purple belt, you'd be pretty happy with it, right?
If you were mounted on a guy who just maybe was a notch below you, you would take that and you would stay there if it was an MMA fight, right?
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
So the difference between that and a guy who's really good is that your mount is not good enough?
Or is it that you don't like the position?
brendan schaub
No, I think in MMA because when they're striking the show, because you're grapevine, right, and you flatten the guy out, you're not going to get heavy strikes in.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
So you're kind of just sitting there.
Or if you're a Verdum guy, you're looking for a submission, correct?
joe rogan
Do you ever cross your feet underneath like a guard from the top, like a mounted guard?
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
That's nasty.
unidentified
That's nasty.
If you're a Verdum guy, you'd go for a submission.
joe rogan
What's a Verdum guy?
Let's listen to Ian, because Ian just said he mounts everybody.
What's your philosophy on it?
ian mccall
I'm just better at punching and passing than everybody else in my division, so it's easy for me to mount.
Pass, mount, you try and recover.
eddie bravo
Try to mount again.
ian mccall
Try to mount again.
eddie bravo
Why are you trying to get to the mount?
ian mccall
It's a dominant position and I can punch you from there and I can get you to...
The person gets tired.
They start to panic and they start to squirm.
I take their back.
I do whatever.
But I can kind of float above somebody, knee in the belly, punch, elbow.
To get that guy to work so much when you can float over him and hit him with knees to the body or whatever it is.
You're hitting the guy.
eddie bravo
But you can't do that from half guard?
ian mccall
You can.
brendan schaub
You're saying you create scrambles out of them.
You go knee on belly, you let them turn, go and whack them out.
ian mccall
I'll do like the, you know, the, the, the cross my feet.
If I can lock them down, I'll lock them down and then just punch them, elbow them and look for a submission.
But I don't mind that people are, if they're starting to scramble like that and I'm on top of them, it's such a dominant position.
I can just, I just hold people down.
brendan schaub
I agree.
I'm saying when you lace your feet like that, you're not finishing a guy with strikes.
joe rogan
You mean when you butterfly or when you grapevine?
Yeah, when you grapevine.
You're not finishing a guy with strikes.
brendan schaub
And if a guy's a high-level grappler from mountain, he's going to get out.
joe rogan
But dude, there's some guys, when you grapevine them, there's dudes that have a crazy hyper-extension in their back.
I've seen guys who flatten guys out with grapevine.
Flatten them out for sure.
I don't see a lot.
unidentified
You gotta have games when there's no great fun.
eddie bravo
You gotta be able to sit up.
You gotta have a calculated game going on.
brendan schaub
I agree.
eddie bravo
Like, what are you doing when there's not punches?
joe rogan
Big Brown, why are you not training with Eddie Bravo?
You need to get your fucking ass over to 10th Planet and get a couple lessons in.
brendan schaub
We've talked about this before.
Son, don't talk about it.
unidentified
Be about it.
eddie bravo
He lives in Venice, man.
He can't make it today.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
It's like a 10-minute drive.
brendan schaub
I drive to Orange County.
joe rogan
Dude, it's a 10-minute drive.
He can't be expected.
eddie bravo
What's in Orange County?
brendan schaub
Wrestling.
Rain Training Center.
joe rogan
Oh, you got a rain?
unidentified
And me, motherfucker!
ian mccall
Even though that was the first time we met.
unidentified
You know what?
brendan schaub
We've never met before, but we still hang out all the time.
eddie bravo
There's a lot of 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu down there.
Tony Ferguson trains down.
brendan schaub
We know I train with Henry and Heron, right?
Yeah.
Everyone knows this?
Yeah.
joe rogan
I got a question about cups.
brendan schaub
If I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it with you.
joe rogan
I got a question.
eddie bravo
I'm thinking...
I don't want to go down Orange County.
Listen, what you're saying, everything you're saying about the Verdum guy is correct.
But everyone should strive to be the Verdum guy.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
I'm striving to be the Verdum guy.
I'm with you.
Jiu-Jitsu is my passion.
I'm with you.
unidentified
But when I get out on Travis Brown, he's not a Brendan Schaub on the ground.
eddie bravo
You want to be able to do that to everybody.
I agree.
Like whoever, Brazilian, whatever.
brendan schaub
I agree 100%.
I don't give a shit if they're Brazilian.
unidentified
You know what?
eddie bravo
If I'm going against a high-level Brazilian and I can get the mount, I'm going to get the goddamn mount and go, holy shit, I'm dominating this fucking dude.
brendan schaub
I'm with you.
I'm with you, Eddie.
eddie bravo
If it's there, but I'm never going to stay in half guard if I can get the mount.
I want to get to the mount because you're in some deep shit in the mount.
There's a lot of games going on.
unidentified
I'm with you, brother, but what happens if they're in deep shit in half guard?
brendan schaub
Well, you're just nasty on a half guard.
eddie bravo
Yeah, but overall in MMA, if you look at all the fights, not that many fights.
You put all the time a fight is in half guard, top half in MMA, most of the time nothing's happening.
It's just a bunch of boring shit.
joe rogan
That's true, but in that respect, in that same argument, most of the time when you're in guard, it's bullshit.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
But your guard's nasty.
eddie bravo
I agree.
unidentified
I agree with you.
joe rogan
His half guard, his fucking top game from half guard is very good.
eddie bravo
He's very good at beating guys.
joe rogan
He's very good at beating guys.
eddie bravo
That's a beautiful thing.
Half guard, darts, half guard, Japanese necktie, half guard, guillotine, fuck yeah.
Half guard, spin to that knee bar.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
But also...
All sorts of games from side control.
There's a whole system.
And then a whole system from the mouth.
And then back and forth.
And then the back is a whole other book.
joe rogan
The fight's taking a place right in front of Dana, and he's not watching.
He's watching the monitor.
It's a weird thing, man.
He's watching the monitor.
How dare you, Eddie Bravo?
But it's a weird thing you do sometimes.
The fight is on in front of you, but you're watching a monitor.
unidentified
The fight's on in front of us in three screens, and we're talking about bookers in Argentina.
joe rogan
But we're still watching it.
Still watching it.
Still awesome.
ian mccall
Any chance given to punch people, Maldonado just fucking excels.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
But Brandon, I understand what you're saying.
joe rogan
Smooth technique, man.
unidentified
Looks like he's got a little extra sting in those punches.
aubrey marcus
And so why take the risk and move and miss?
unidentified
Especially at heavyweight.
joe rogan
Guys are so explosive.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
They're so explosive at heavyweight.
eddie bravo
I would say they're less explosive at heavyweight.
brendan schaub
Ooh, I disagree, Eddie.
eddie bravo
I think the explosive guys are guys like him.
Ooh, I completely disagree.
Who are just like, really?
No.
brendan schaub
Because guys his size, how many are playing football?
I'll do a solid zero.
eddie bravo
Peewee football?
He was like the star of Peewee football.
unidentified
I'm sure.
brendan schaub
He still plays Peewee football.
eddie bravo
Destroying guys.
brendan schaub
Destroying it.
eddie bravo
Just fucking all-world Peewee football.
I'm short, too.
unidentified
I'm little.
I'm little.
ian mccall
I'm with you.
eddie bravo
I feel like running the shop when I'm with you.
joe rogan
Back to the Mount talk.
I got a question about cups, man.
Eddie, they outlawed those Thai steel cups in a lot of grappling competitions, right?
- Yeah, 'cause you can fuck a dude up with a cup. - Right, so why can't you do the same thing in MMA?
In MMA, like when, you know, I remember one time What the hell happened here?
Maldonado got on top.
eddie bravo
Hold on, pause that.
brendan schaub
I was wearing him out.
eddie bravo
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Maldonado's giving some beatings.
Look at his shoot and pull.
brendan schaub
He's about to finish him from half guard, son.
joe rogan
Look how calm he is.
brendan schaub
Nice.
unidentified
Maldonado.
joe rogan
He's about to finish him from half guard.
Right there, you gotta shoot.
eddie bravo
You gotta shoot the perfect double under.
Pull him on top of you.
And then when they come back with that wizard, you come up with him right to top.
brendan schaub
He's not looking to do that, son.
joe rogan
He doesn't have that skill set.
Maldonado's looking to just fucking fire up some punches.
eddie bravo
That dude looks like Anderson.
brendan schaub
That is Anderson.
joe rogan
It's Anderson up there with him.
Anderson's in his corner.
eddie bravo
Come on.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
I don't know, but you know, you could learn something watching him punch.
Like, everything was very precise and at like 70% power.
ian mccall
And Anderson can do whatever the fuck he wants.
He can do whatever he wants.
joe rogan
He's in Rio.
They can suck each other's dicks right now.
The whole crowd will go, voop, Mario A's!
ian mccall
But like you were saying, his striking from any position is so fucking pinpoint, it looks like it hurts.
aubrey marcus
He had extra snap on it, like the timing was right.
ian mccall
I think it's the man boobs.
joe rogan
He's just smooth.
So here's the question.
If you could fuck a guy up with a Thai steel cup in a grappling competition, it's an extra lever.
Like if you catch a guy on a knee bar or anything.
ian mccall
It's like two inches of metal.
joe rogan
It's metal.
And it hurts.
I was rolling with Amir Renovardi.
He's the only guy I've ever rolled with that rolls with a Thai cup on it.
He would mount you and stick that fucking Thai cup right in your solar plexus and grapevine you.
It was...
Death!
It's terrible!
ian mccall
I never thought about it.
I've always worn one.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's what I'm thinking.
ian mccall
You're gonna kick me in the nuts, you're gonna fucking kick steel.
joe rogan
But, Mike, have you ever fucked with those, my question was, have you ever fucked with those, like, diamond cups?
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you think about it?
What's better, diamond or, like, a steel cup?
ian mccall
I wore it once, and I liked it.
I just, I think it broke, and I never wore another one.
joe rogan
Which model was it?
How long ago was it?
ian mccall
A while ago.
joe rogan
They're better at it now.
They've done a bunch of changes to them.
They're pretty dope.
ian mccall
They were awesome, but I actually put a steel cup inside of mine.
joe rogan
Ooh, that's very smart.
ian mccall
Because I like the way it's set up, but I don't trust plastic.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
ian mccall
It kicks in plastic and you go, wow, it's shaped.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian mccall
And steel is a little bit different.
joe rogan
And especially, they'll say, oh, look, there's a video of someone kicking you.
Okay, well, let Melvin Manhoof kick you in the nuts.
Let's let someone who knows how to kick, because I'm watching this kick and I'm like, I'm not that impressed.
ian mccall
Yeah.
Fuck, let me kick you.
If you want to prove something, let me kick you.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ian mccall
I'm only 125 pounds.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of people that say like, hey man, I eat leg kicks or I eat kicks.
You'll eat some kicks.
Some kicks you can eat.
brendan schaub
Pedro Izzo.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
That's the perfect guy to bring up.
brendan schaub
My coach I'm working with, he was Pedro Izzo's striking coach.
He said he couldn't hold mitts for him.
Couldn't hold pads for him.
He said you'd have to put him on a bag.
joe rogan
I've seen him kick a bag at Beverly Hills Jiu-Jitsu.
He would just fold those motherfuckers.
ian mccall
Dude, him, Peter Ayurts, at Marco's studio on Aliso, just...
eddie bravo
Says the guy who folds fucking bags.
unidentified
This is true.
joe rogan
Yeah, I could do that shit too.
That's why I'm telling you.
unidentified
What a hypocrite.
joe rogan
It's shit not normal.
There's certain dudes that just have a weird power.
Flexibility?
No.
brendan schaub
In your hips?
joe rogan
It's a little bit of that.
brendan schaub
Your hips are super flexible.
joe rogan
It's bone size too, dude.
It's a weird...
It's shape.
And that's one of the main problems that I have with transgender fighters that fight over in women's MMA. Oh.
I should say only if they don't let them know.
Like, that was the issue that I had with Final Fox.
She didn't divulge because she didn't think she had to because it was a medical issue.
If you know that a chick used to be a dude but is now a chick and you fight her, it's on board.
I think it should be legal to ride bulls.
I think it should be legal to jump BMX. She should be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do.
I think a 135-pound chick should be able to fight a 135-pound dude.
I think if Ronda Rousey and Brian Carraway talked enough shit and they decided to go at it, I don't have any problem with that.
If they both agree to it...
ian mccall
I'll go up and wait and fight Ronda, but...
joe rogan
There's the size of the body.
It's the shape of the body that's different.
It's not just the density of the bone, because black women have the same density of bone as white men.
It's very similar.
Almost the same.
Very similar.
But, you know, obviously, pro athletes and guys who strength train are going to have more density in their bones than the average person that they're measuring.
It's a significant difference.
But the big difference is the mechanical advantage of the male frame.
You don't find a female with super wide shoulders, narrow waist, and the same size hips and the same shape hips as a man.
And when you have that kind of body, you can just generate more force.
unidentified
Trouble.
joe rogan
I can look at a dude and tell you whether or not he could be like a man-hoof.
There's some dudes that just have that stupid fucking power, and you could look at him and go, well, he might.
He might not.
He might be like a Bobby Lashley.
He looks like a fucking brick shithouse, but he's not like a Shane Carwin.
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
But a Shane Carwin's a Shane Carwin.
Shane Carwin had that stupid fucking power that you can't teach.
unidentified
Of course he did.
What if he became a transvestite and wanted Jesus Christ!
joe rogan
Could you imagine Jen Carlin out of his ass?
unidentified
With a wig?
brendan schaub
With a wig on?
joe rogan
Just clipping bitches!
It became legal!
eddie bravo
As soon as he started using three, four fights in a row in regular MMA, like, dude, I'm going to lose weight and fucking chop my balls off.
joe rogan
Can you imagine him collar-tie a chick?
All he would have to do is collar-tie a chick and punch her in the back of the ear, and it's over.
His hands are not going to shrink.
And if they do shrink, what are they going to shrink?
unidentified
A little?
eddie bravo
Within ten years, All the champions in women's MMA will be former dudes.
unidentified
All of them.
joe rogan
That's so true.
eddie bravo
This is a stoner question.
What do you think aliens eat strictly GMOs or are they vegan?
joe rogan
Good question.
eddie bravo
What would you think?
They come down and we find out aliens are real.
unidentified
They came down.
eddie bravo
They're flying through space.
Would they laugh at vegans?
unidentified
Do they have planets that are designated for organic farming?
eddie bravo
Do they have planets?
unidentified
Do you think they bring farms in their ships?
joe rogan
They're eating air, dude.
unidentified
They just absorb energy.
You know what I mean?
eddie bravo
What would they say was wrong with the vegan thing?
They go, listen, this is the truth.
As long as you're getting all the vitamins and minerals and essential fatty acids and amino acids in a pill form, whatever you eat, your body's going to adjust.
These bodies, we can digest anything.
It's all about the vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and essential fatty acids.
That's it.
joe rogan
You're discounting the possibility that they might not even be biological.
We're getting so close to coming up with artificial skin.
They're talking about artificial intelligence, the ability to download someone's consciousness.
Who knows when?
I mean, a hundred years from now, a thousand years from now, whatever the fuck it is.
But downloading your mind into some sort of a computer.
You're looking at these aliens, we're assuming they're biological.
But they can easily transcend biology.
If you talk about people that lived a million years ago, like was Australopithecus, right?
The oldest version of human.
If you took one of them and showed them an iPhone, they wouldn't know what the fuck to do with it.
It would basically be as ridiculous...
A comparison, the way they live, to an alien being some sort of a biological creation or an artificial creation.
If they come up with fake cells, and then they come up with fake body parts, and eventually maybe won't enact the same biological processes as a brain or as a human body.
But it might be something that replicates it in a way where it could be just as conscious and just as productive.
unidentified
So the consciousness would have to be something that could be downloaded, in a sense.
joe rogan
Or replicated.
eddie bravo
Yeah, replicated.
So once you figure that out, you'd make fucking copies of yourself.
You'd make at least 20 copies, mail them to all your fucking relatives.
joe rogan
How about this?
Look at the aliens.
They all look the same.
Because what if you lose the hard drive?
eddie bravo
What if the files get corrupted?
Then that's how you die.
That's how you kill someone.
aubrey marcus
No one's ever seen aliens with balls.
eddie bravo
To kill someone, you gotta get their fucking master file.
joe rogan
Well, the thing about the alien.
eddie bravo
That's how you kill them.
joe rogan
When everybody's version of the alien is essentially the same.
It's always a big gray thing with black eyes.
Like, what if they just all agree?
Like, look, let's just all look ugly.
No one's allowed to be hot.
We don't have dicks anymore, so who gives a shit?
unidentified
And then when you adjust the horn, you won't even want pussy.
You're like, I don't want pussy.
joe rogan
You're like, you don't even want it.
Do you want it?
eddie bravo
Because after a while, people hold on to it.
unidentified
You can hold on to the hunger if you want it, but then you hold on to it.
joe rogan
Hey, this is a real fight that we should probably solve.
aubrey marcus
This is a real fight.
ian mccall
It's not happening yet, so we can still touch shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, Phil Davis is fighting glory.
eddie bravo
Slowly, you end up learning that you want to shut that hormone off.
If you don't, that's the thing that kills everybody.
That's the downfall to everybody.
unidentified
I'll take this life.
aubrey marcus
I'll take this life with the food and the fucking steaks.
unidentified
But you know what?
aubrey marcus
You can turn it on.
eddie bravo
You can turn it on every now and then.
Every now and then you can go in there, turn on the sex drive.
unidentified
Boom!
eddie bravo
And they're like, damn, I want something.
aubrey marcus
Boom!
unidentified
And then you can turn it off.
eddie bravo
You turn it off and you're good.
joe rogan
If they can figure out a way to transcend sex, I mean, we say if they don't have sex, fuck them, but what if they come up with some shit that's way better than sex?
unidentified
Transcend sex and a loud spaceship that sounds like a fucking muscle car.
aubrey marcus
Just think about what Fabio Maldonado's doing tonight.
There's no way you want to transcend that.
That's going to be beautiful.
joe rogan
What he's doing, he's going to do a hundred times and keep forgetting he did it.
Did I do that?
Yeah, I did that.
unidentified
The over-under on sexual partners for Fabio Maldonado's night is infinity.
aubrey marcus
It's infinity.
eddie bravo
I'm not going to name names, but very famous.
I know a famous Brazilian is very famous.
I'm not going to name any names, but they're crazy buck wild.
They'll just disappear.
They'll be with you in an airport.
They'll meet a chick at an airport and just get another flight, take off with this chick, and be gone for a week.
This guy is super hardcore.
joe rogan
Also, you've got to think, MMA fighters, for the most part, you guys could testify to that.
Very impulsive.
Wild fucking people.
I mean, they're not entering into the cage because the fucking accounting gig didn't work out.
brendan schaub
I get time off, I get tattoos, I do weird shit, I buy cars and shit.
I do weird stuff, man.
joe rogan
You need a muscle car, Big Brown.
You have an American muscle car.
ian mccall
We drive Priuses.
brendan schaub
Bro, you have a Porsche in a BMW. What are you talking about?
joe rogan
I'm getting an American muscle car, son.
I don't know.
I've been thinking a lot lately.
I'm thinking I'm missing that in my life.
ian mccall
Get a Cobra.
joe rogan
I used to have a Shelby.
Shelby GT500. Get a fucking real Cobra.
I'm just trying to figure out if I should get a new one or an old one.
eddie bravo
Will real dolls or fuck robots ever get so good?
joe rogan
Better than hookers.
eddie bravo
Then it's actually pimp to have one and not have chicks?
brendan schaub
Never.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
brendan schaub
Never.
joe rogan
It's going to be so good, it's not going to be...
unidentified
You know what it's going to be?
joe rogan
This is what it'll be.
You go over to a dude's house, and his girlfriend is in lingerie, and she's cleaning up.
And you go, is that she real?
That's what's going to happen.
unidentified
When it gets that good!
joe rogan
When it gets that good!
ian mccall
Tell you outside.
unidentified
She doesn't know she's not real.
eddie bravo
Dude, if it costs two million dollars, you get the ultimate one where you can't tell it's not human.
joe rogan
I've got to write that down.
brendan schaub
Have you ever seen Stepford Wives?
Nicole Kidman?
The robot wives?
They clean and do everything they want them to do?
Look it up.
Look it up.
Read a book.
eddie bravo
It's going to get there.
What's going to happen?
brendan schaub
I don't think so, man.
ian mccall
Why do you watch those fucking women's shows?
unidentified
I love it.
brendan schaub
Oh, I watch all that bullshit, my man.
ian mccall
What about the Oculus Rift?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
That, like, 3D simulation thing?
Don't you think that could, like, eventually change the porn industry?
joe rogan
It already is.
They're already starting to do them.
unidentified
Are they?
joe rogan
They're doing first-person porns with those things on.
It's supposed to be insane.
unidentified
God.
Wait, what?
Are they ready?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, they're starting to do it.
eddie bravo
Watch it after the show.
unidentified
Eddie's like, I'm in.
ian mccall
What is this happening?
eddie bravo
I just want it for research purposes.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
For knowledge.
Eddie, you could do jiu-jitsu with that.
You could put on an Oculus Rift suit and go through positions.
You could go through positions.
unidentified
She looks like this for jiu-jitsu.
brendan schaub
Why does the doll have huge titties?
joe rogan
Well, I'm teaching girls jiu-jitsu.
I gotta do this with a girl.
And the only way the cameras pick it up is everyone's naked.
Cameras get confused by clothes.
And this is a triangle series.
ian mccall
The lighting has to be good for...
joe rogan
Yeah.
We're working on the north-south position right now.
unidentified
Big fight, son.
I'm like in a green suit with all these electro balls and shit.
eddie bravo
I'm just like...
I'm like...
unidentified
There's no one there.
Do you see anybody there?
There's nobody there.
Look!
There's nobody there.
I look.
I'm taking pictures.
eddie bravo
There's nobody there.
unidentified
I hopped on Duncan Trussell's Oculus Rift.
What?
There's nobody there!
aubrey marcus
Have you been on that, Joe?
joe rogan
Yeah.
aubrey marcus
You played the Alien game on that thing?
joe rogan
I haven't been to the new one.
aubrey marcus
Holy shit, that was terrifying.
joe rogan
I heard the Alien game is so scary that people are thinking it should be illegal.
aubrey marcus
It's terrifying.
Come on, do it.
joe rogan
It's virtual reality, and you're in the world, and apparently the worried, legit concern, people are going to have heart attacks.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Like, if you're an old man, okay, if you're in your fuckin' 70s...
unidentified
Playing video games?
joe rogan
You deserve to die.
eddie bravo
Big Brown again!
joe rogan
Big Brown again.
But they're fun, man.
If your fuckin' wife, you know, doesn't want to have sex anymore...
brendan schaub
If I'm 70, eating a bag of Cheetos, playing video games, put me down.
Just shoot me, man.
ian mccall
What's wrong with me as a fucking retired?
aubrey marcus
I get video games now.
brendan schaub
It's weird, man.
unidentified
I get it.
aubrey marcus
You ain't can't leave.
You gotta go over to Duncan Trussell's house, Big Brown.
Check that shit out.
If you don't, if you don't budge, I'll give you $500.
unidentified
Is that scary?
aubrey marcus
If the alien comes at you and you just fucking, just mean mug it, I'll fucking give you $500.
unidentified
I guarantee you.
ian mccall
Where do you do this at?
eddie bravo
I want to do it.
aubrey marcus
At Duncan Trussell's house.
He's got like this kid, this alien game.
And when the alien, when your gun fucking jams like mine did and the alien comes and eats your fucking throat, like your body just reacts.
joe rogan
It's like, ah!
aubrey marcus
You move back.
unidentified
It's crazy.
aubrey marcus
No, you're full in, full on virtual reality.
brendan schaub
Does the whole system come with the game?
How does it work?
aubrey marcus
Yeah, but you get nauseous as fuck because there's some kind of delay, so you get bad motion sickness so you can't play long.
But that shit's scary.
brendan schaub
Too intense for me, man.
unidentified
It's serious.
brendan schaub
Too much.
unidentified
Come on.
aubrey marcus
500 bucks.
brendan schaub
It's too much.
aubrey marcus
Oh, damn.
brendan schaub
He teased it.
aubrey marcus
He teased it.
brendan schaub
I'll take the challenge.
eddie bravo
He did the X now.
No more heart.
unidentified
No more heart.
eddie bravo
He used to do the heart.
He gave him the X now.
unidentified
Shit.
joe rogan
Here we go.
First round.
ian mccall
Whoever makes this...
joe rogan
Yeah, those are dope, right?
Pro bars.
I found out about those a couple weeks ago.
eddie bravo
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
They're awesome.
You should try the...
There's a superfood one with, like, greens and shit.
brendan schaub
Grover can wrestle them.
joe rogan
Yeah, he can, dude.
It's a rough matchup for Phil.
brendan schaub
Phil's my boy, too.
joe rogan
And Grover has some really good fucking hands, man.
Really good hands.
ian mccall
Fuck yeah.
Wow, Glover looks good, man.
brendan schaub
He competed in Abu Dhabi.
joe rogan
Glover looks good.
ian mccall
Scary guy.
joe rogan
Phil had a real problem with Rumble, man.
Rumble Johnson matches up poorly with a lot of people.
brendan schaub
I agree, but it's going to be the worst matchup for Phil.
joe rogan
Yeah, tough to take down and fucking throws bombs.
eddie bravo
Eventually, Phil Davis will have sick striking.
It's getting there.
joe rogan
He's just gotta keep going.
eddie bravo
Eventually he's gonna figure it all out.
It just takes years.
ian mccall
And he's got someone who's fucking scary in front of him, so he's hesitating a bit.
brendan schaub
It's a tough matchup for Phil, man.
aubrey marcus
Trains with Gustafson, though.
joe rogan
Well, you know, that whole camp, man.
Alliance is a great fucking camp.
There's so much talent down there.
brendan schaub
Great coaches, too.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, dude.
And good dudes, too.
A lot of good dudes down there.
ian mccall
Yeah, I need to go down there more.
They're like friends of mine, so I need to go hang out.
Train.
brendan schaub
Keep moving, Phil.
joe rogan
Dude, Glover looks really good.
brendan schaub
Glover's one of the guys that just keeps coming forward, man.
He'll eat two of yours, just land one of his.
It's weird.
joe rogan
He looks really good, too.
The way he's seeing everything, just sliding right out of it.
It's like Phil's throwing these shots and he's getting just offline.
Just offline.
But looking for his openings.
brendan schaub
Super patient, right?
Just trying to get him against the cage.
Keep moving, Phil.
God, he's going to be tough to take down, man.
joe rogan
Look at this, man.
eddie bravo
Phil Davis might have to pull guard.
joe rogan
It's crazy to see these super high-level wrestlers like Phil Davis.
You're working on your overall MMA game.
You're not doing as much wrestling.
And it's not just a wrestling match.
Once you start throwing in punches and stuff, there's some guys you just have a really hard time taking down.
The distance is different.
Even if you're as good at wrestling as Davis is.
He's so fucking good.
The distance is different.
Is that what the big thing is?
brendan schaub
Yes.
Yeah, son!
joe rogan
Damn, front kick and a punch behind it.
eddie bravo
See, slowly he's going to be an amazing striker.
ian mccall
Nice fucking sprawl.
brendan schaub
He has a really good guillotine, man.
joe rogan
That's not his hurt shoulder either.
Look at this.
Phil might have it.
Ooh, defense.
brendan schaub
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Glover's got some dope defense.
ian mccall
Look at that!
unidentified
Oh, shit.
ian mccall
You know he walks around at 240. That Chuck used to bring into the camp.
I mean, Chuck used to bring in so many fucking badass dudes, so Glover got so good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he was the guy, like, for six years.
Everybody wanted to get in the UFC. Put his visa problems.
brendan schaub
Well, my rounds when I was getting ready for Mitrione were Lyoto Machida and Glover Teixeira.
Glover would come in and he was 240 pounds.
I was like, what are we doing?
joe rogan
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
For sure.
Look at this.
joe rogan
Look at this.
He's dropping out.
ian mccall
He let it go.
joe rogan
He let it go on the way down.
But look at this.
ian mccall
I think it slipped.
brendan schaub
This is how Phil's going to win.
He's going to wear him out and win by decision.
Do you think so?
Yep.
joe rogan
Well, you know...
brendan schaub
I know, though.
I've just been fighting you.
joe rogan
It's also...
A lot of people were wondering who Glover was training with.
unidentified
Oh, he's getting hit hard right there.
joe rogan
Oh, good hard shots by Davis.
eddie bravo
Hard shots.
joe rogan
Oh, he's eating these trying to get up.
eddie bravo
He could be over right here.
joe rogan
Dude, he's getting tagged.
He's hurt, man.
unidentified
He's hurt.
joe rogan
Dude, Phil Davis threw some bombs right there.
unidentified
He's a badass.
And he's not afraid to put the hooks in and go for a choke.
aubrey marcus
Yeah, it seems like he likes his position to strike from.
joe rogan
You can't eat those shots, man.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's going to get...
Oh, that uppercut.
joe rogan
Into the arm uppercut.
ian mccall
Get the fuck up.
joe rogan
He's getting wobbly.
Look, I know who Ian McCall is rooting for.
ian mccall
That's my friend.
I like Phil, too.
I'm just better friends with Glover.
joe rogan
Whatever, bro.
I called you out.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you did.
Get up, bro!
Yeah, for sure, going for Glover.
eddie bravo
How many times have you heard about someone that you thought was your friend and they were rooting against you because...
Oh, it hurts my feelings.
Because one of their buddies is fighting you.
brendan schaub
I take it personal, man.
Super personal.
eddie bravo
Has it happened a few times?
ian mccall
Oh, yeah.
eddie bravo
Because it happens.
unidentified
It's business, right?
brendan schaub
I'll find out certain media guys who you think are your friends, and then for a reason after the fight, they're like, yeah, watch him call it, picked Mitrione to win or Travis Brown to win.
I'm like, cool, I won't do interviews with him anyway.
joe rogan
Have either one of you guys trained with Eric Del Fiero?
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you think about him?
ian mccall
I've fought for Total Combat.
He's a great coach, huh?
Great coach, smart.
The whole group is a group of really smart guys.
joe rogan
He's a good dude, too.
brendan schaub
Dude, Phil is tagging him.
joe rogan
He keeps tagging him.
Look at this.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Phil's got his back.
Dude, Phil is fucking him up.
brendan schaub
This is how you win, Phil.
You wear him out, son.
joe rogan
Dude, his head is getting rocked back on these shots.
These are serious shots.
ian mccall
Yeah, Phil's hitting him hard.
joe rogan
He's going for it.
Even if Glover gets through this round, he's taking a lot of punishment, man.
Some really hard shots to the head.
brendan schaub
Wearing him out.
joe rogan
I mean, he's blocking these.
Oh shit.
Big round for Phil Davis.
brendan schaub
Huge round.
joe rogan
Oh shit.
aubrey marcus
How's Phil's gas tank?
joe rogan
Pretty fucking good, man.
eddie bravo
Well, he's totally exhausted right there.
If he comes out strong, then, you know, he's done his cardio, right?
Because he looks totally exhausted.
brendan schaub
Even if he is in phenomenal shape, you're going to be tired that first round.
eddie bravo
Yeah, you're supposed to be tired.
He's trying to fuck him up.
He's supposed to be tired.
It's all about recovering at this point.
joe rogan
This would be a big victory for Davis, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, if he beat Leona Machina in Brazil, let's say he wins this fight, Glover takes care in Brazil?
unidentified
What the hell?
aubrey marcus
He also beat Fabio in Brazil.
I think we were at that fight for the Stefan Bonner.
joe rogan
Oh, front kick up the face.
Ooh, the right hand behind it.
That was clean, man.
These are bad, though.
ian mccall
Those are heavy.
joe rogan
There was a few of them that really snapped his head back.
eddie bravo
That one?
joe rogan
One of them where he really got wobbled in the second exchange.
Look at the powerful Vitor Belfort.
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at his wife.
eddie bravo
Never have been.
ian mccall
Never have been.
joe rogan
You don't think he's gonna get the strap?
ian mccall
She's like the Brazilian Pam Anderson or something?
brendan schaub
Something along those lines.
joe rogan
Pam Anderson did a fuckload of squats on a staircase.
brendan schaub
Just a blowout ass.
joe rogan
Off the charts bootie.
eddie bravo
Those chicks have big asses down there and they're getting fake asses.
joe rogan
It looks just not necessary.
Fake asses will never be...
eddie bravo
Eventually they will be...
ian mccall
I don't like them.
eddie bravo
Eventually they will be, but right now, no guy is accepting fake asses.
No.
unidentified
Hell no.
eddie bravo
In 10 years we will accept it, but not right now.
It's too early.
I would rather have a flat, no-ass-having little...
joe rogan
No crossover conversations, folks.
Big fucking fight going on here.
brendan schaub
We're talking about asses, sorry.
Fake asses.
joe rogan
He comes up that front kick to the face.
Good.
brendan schaub
Keep moving, Phil.
You gotta keep moving, man.
eddie bravo
I don't think women are aware of that.
That we will not accept that.
You better hide that shit.
You can't tell nobody.
It ain't like titties.
You can tell your whole family about your titties.
Your dad will help you with the down payment and all that shit.
brendan schaub
Ooh, good shot.
It's a great shot.
eddie bravo
You better keep that a secret.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Whose dad's going to help their chick with a down payment?
What are you talking about?
unidentified
You not been to Texas, though?
You not been to Texas?
No, I don't really.
joe rogan
Is that super common?
unidentified
That happens a lot, dude.
joe rogan
I don't know how many times I've heard that at the strip club.
eddie bravo
At the strip club?
unidentified
Wow.
eddie bravo
Dude, a lot of...
ian mccall
I'm from Orange County.
It's everywhere.
unidentified
It's Newport Beach.
I hear it all the time.
eddie bravo
But graduation just now.
Uh-uh, not right now.
brendan schaub
Oh, look at this.
joe rogan
Big switch.
Glover's on top.
ian mccall
There we go.
You gotta respect that game.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
I know, it doesn't look like he has it.
ian mccall
No, it's not.
joe rogan
It's gotta adjust his grip, right?
What kind of grip does he have here?
Nothing.
eddie bravo
Kung Fu grip.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
Nice.
joe rogan
It didn't look like he totally had it gripped up, right?
How many more guillotines do you think we'd get in the UFC if we had no gloves?
How many more submissions?
ian mccall
A lot more.
joe rogan
A lot more submissions, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've brought this up before.
Do you think that it would actually be better if you fought with no gloves?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
You think about what you can do with your elbow...
eddie bravo
They should fight with those rubber gloves that the doctors wear?
joe rogan
Why have anything?
unidentified
If you think...
How about dish gloves?
joe rogan
Dishwashing gloves.
I really think you should have no ankle support, no wrist support, no gloves, no nothing.
I think if you fought with no gloves, we would realistically know what punches do in a fight.
Right now we don't.
Because right now we have padded up gloves of hands that are wrapped up together.
brendan schaub
They don't do much.
joe rogan
They do enough that it changes.
unidentified
Not much though.
joe rogan
It's enough that most people would wear them if they had the option.
aubrey marcus
It helped out brains.
joe rogan
You break your hands.
You break your hands way easier without gloves.
ian mccall
Oh, way easier.
joe rogan
I think it makes a big difference, too, in what's effective striking because your knuckles, like, they don't dig it as much.
Your wrists buckle a little bit on shots.
Whereas if you're wrapping your wrists up and taping it down, you're making it, like, artificially stiff.
ian mccall
Oh, man.
joe rogan
And that allows you to punch harder.
Yeah, it allows you to punch harder.
I think we get an unrealistic sense of the value of punches because of that.
eddie bravo
I see what you're saying, but I don't think people are watching it for that.
joe rogan
But I'm not talking about people watching it.
I'm talking about for the purity of the sport.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
You're talking about the spirit of martial arts.
joe rogan
To make grappling better.
ian mccall
Like Angerstone and hyperanalyzing everything.
joe rogan
I always do that.
But I mean, getting rear naked chokes, man.
Getting rear naked chokes is a big difference between gloves on and all.
eddie bravo
There's a lot of stuff that's in MMA that's ridiculous.
It's just retarded.
brendan schaub
If you touch the ground, you can't knee to the face.
eddie bravo
That kind of stuff.
There's so many laws that just won't...
They never change them.
And just like you can't wear tights.
The law is you can't have your calf covered because...
It's dangerous.
Yes, it's so dangerous.
It's crazy.
unidentified
It's illegal.
joe rogan
Dude, Phil is tired, man.
eddie bravo
You have to have the cab explode.
joe rogan
Poke to the eye.
Damn.
I was just about to say that Phil, he blew out so much energy in that first round.
brendan schaub
He's beating the brakes off him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he did a lot of fucking damage.
unidentified
Of course he did.
Look at that.
eddie bravo
That's Enrique Iglesias right there.
joe rogan
No, that's Enrique's brother.
unidentified
Vicente Fernandez when he was 26. Conor McGregor's got a pink shirt and tie.
joe rogan
Yeah, of course he does.
brendan schaub
Dapper.
unidentified
I love him.
He's my new favorite fighter.
aubrey marcus
She likes cockiness.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Powerful, Aubrey.
unidentified
Good choice.
joe rogan
Oh, God, right in the eye with that thumb.
God, I hate that shit.
eddie bravo
I'm just going to be rooting against him.
I hope he can get the basket.
joe rogan
Here's another thing, man.
eddie bravo
Right?
I hate the sound going on.
joe rogan
Here's another thing.
If we're going to have gloves, if we're going to have gloves, why the fuck don't they cover the tips of the fingers?
Why don't they figure out a way to do that?
I don't think it's going to help the fingers, man.
eddie bravo
It's not that much of a problem.
joe rogan
It's a big problem, man.
I think it's a huge...
How many Jon Jones fights have there been eye pokes?
ian mccall
Fuck everyone.
unidentified
But even if the fingers were covered, can't you still poke someone's eye?
aubrey marcus
Yeah, but the nail's not there.
joe rogan
I think if the fingers are covered, you're not going to be able to dig in with one finger.
That's not good enough.
They'll still fuck you up.
Let me poke you in the eye with a finger condom on.
Open up.
Boink, you'd be like, damn, ow!
ian mccall
I know you've got finger columns around her somewhere.
joe rogan
Dude, my daughter accidentally poked me in the eye the other day, and I saw sparks.
unidentified
When you go to a restaurant, they have the gloves on.
eddie bravo
Like, what's the fucking difference if they grab their balls, if they grab their ass with the gloves on?
joe rogan
They wouldn't do that.
They have respect.
Whoa, Phil Davis is a big takedown.
ian mccall
Take your gloves off.
joe rogan
Oh, the rear naked!
Rear naked!
eddie bravo
Every order, new gloves.
joe rogan
Look at this!
unidentified
Nope.
ian mccall
Too high.
joe rogan
Got too high.
He's got to drop his hips down, but he doesn't want to lose the position.
He doesn't want to get bucked up.
eddie bravo
It's crazy that he's standing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, end of the round, too, there.
brendan schaub
It was a short time.
joe rogan
I thought he was going to do it.
brendan schaub
It's 2-0 for Phil.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
aubrey marcus
MMA takes off the gloves.
Football takes off the pads and helmets.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a good idea.
It's called rugby.
unidentified
It's a terrible XFL. Did you guys see that?
joe rogan
Did you guys see that rugby thing where the dude KO'd the dude on the field?
He ground and pounded him?
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
Dude, he hit him with the right hand, dropped him, and then fucking pounded him out.
eddie bravo
How about that video of that ref at a karate tournament who takes out both competitors?
He's the ref, and he's trying to separate them.
ian mccall
Was that Russia or something?
eddie bravo
Like a Russian ref, dude.
He made karate look beautiful.
It was a real fight.
He was trying to separate them, and then he just went...
And then he kicked the guy in the face.
joe rogan
Do you know the name of the video?
brendan schaub
I've never seen that.
eddie bravo
Maybe if you YouTube search Karate Ref Fight.
joe rogan
Ref Fight.
Karate Ref Fight.
eddie bravo
It's like a three second video.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Okay, and watch this real quick.
This is about a three second.
Who's working the fucking truck?
Bruce Connell!
Who's working the fucking truck?
ian mccall
Dana's going fucking nuts!
joe rogan
Where was Jenny's ass?
They were fucking screaming in their headphones right now.
Why didn't you show Jenny's ass?
You showed her face.
You showed her walk down.
She's very beautiful.
You had an opportunity to show her ass.
We need that for America.
America needs that.
Phil Davis, two rounds in.
unidentified
Oh!
eddie bravo
He got clipped right there.
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
Glover knows.
eddie bravo
Glover's on fire right now.
joe rogan
Well, he knows it's do or die, man.
These two rounds in the hole.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Big push.
Big push here.
Ray Lewis and shit.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Well, he's built like a goddamn superhero.
unidentified
Phil Davis is a ridiculous body.
It's crazy.
It is.
brendan schaub
His back's insane.
joe rogan
His legs are retarded.
They're just so goddamn big.
eddie bravo
It sounds so good.
joe rogan
Eddie, is that it?
unidentified
Is that the video?
eddie bravo
Yes, this is it.
joe rogan
Go full screen on that shit.
unidentified
Check this out.
joe rogan
We're going to watch a fight.
Hold up.
Pause it.
Pause it.
We'll watch that shit after this fight's over.
The fight only has four minutes to go.
brendan schaub
Something's about to happen in this.
joe rogan
We'll need some downtime while there's a...
aubrey marcus
What gluttons we are, almost watching a fight during a fight.
joe rogan
I want to fucking kill an animal, too.
Someone take their clothes off.
brendan schaub
Ooh, good takedown.
joe rogan
Oh, big takedown for Phil.
brendan schaub
Two of the best light heavyweights in the world.
Cue up that Russian beating the shit out of those two guys in the street.
unidentified
From 1982. The karate guys.
joe rogan
That's fine.
As long as he had those shiny pants on.
I used to love those kickboxing pants.
They're laced in the front like a sneaker.
Remember that shit?
Chuck Norris used to wear them.
I had those bitches.
I had those.
I love Chuck Norris so much, I wore those for my Taekwondo pants.
aubrey marcus
Oh, here's the mouth.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this.
Phil Davis.
Oh, look at that.
I like how he hooked the leg.
That was nice.
That was very nice.
eddie bravo
Cradle, baby.
joe rogan
Phil Davis.
eddie bravo
10th grade wrestling.
aubrey marcus
Man, my big brother used to do that to me.
unidentified
I hate it.
joe rogan
Well, you remember how Boss Root used to tap guys with some fucking crazy cradle?
He would be in that Bosruten weird reverse press.
eddie bravo
I still use that.
Yeah, it's dope.
joe rogan
He gets a headlock on one side, and he hooks your leg on the other side, and he fucking flexes and just separates your head from your body.
eddie bravo
It's the Bosruten shark machine.
joe rogan
He's such an amazing person.
He's so goddamn strong.
Especially in his prime, Bosruten's so goddamn strong.
eddie bravo
It's a legit technique.
ian mccall
Yeah, so make you shit yourself?
Can you make a shit yourself?
joe rogan
We almost saw it once in the UFC. I forget who was going for it.
But I almost forgot it existed.
And then Joe Silva actually reminded me.
That's that Boss Rootin thing.
I was like, that's right!
Damn, Phil Davis running it.
brendan schaub
That's insane.
joe rogan
Running it, man.
brendan schaub
Phil's an underdog.
joe rogan
This is a big fight.
Oh, big punches, man.
Phil Davis looking as good as ever against a fucking legit killer.
brendan schaub
Yeah, best performance I've seen.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
He came off that rumble fight.
He knew he had to take it to the next level.
eddie bravo
You know what?
I'll be honest.
I would like to see him going for the finish.
joe rogan
He's trying, man.
eddie bravo
No, I mean, I'm talking to Submito.
brendan schaub
It's me talking to Submito.
joe rogan
Dude, he's still tagging him.
I mean, he's got two minutes to go, and he's beating the shit out of Glover.
ian mccall
Bad.
joe rogan
I mean, he's hit him with 30 or 40 unanswered shots.
eddie bravo
I'd still rather see a submission.
unidentified
Who was the one-handed, the one-armed Kimura?
That was him.
The Wonder Bar?
That was badass.
brendan schaub
Very high-level.
unidentified
Yeah, that was bad.
brendan schaub
What he's doing to Glover, man.
unidentified
I know he's making a look at ease, but this is crazy.
No, this is insane.
Yeah, this is sick.
joe rogan
Dude, Glover's an animal.
brendan schaub
Animal, straight beast.
joe rogan
You know, I wonder how much of an effect, if any, and I'm just throwing this out there because I have to.
eddie bravo
Look at that, he's on top now.
joe rogan
His camp, doing his camp in Danbury, Connecticut had, as opposed to doing it like an American top team.
You know, like, what kind of sparring partners is he getting?
I don't know.
I mean, maybe he had a bunch of guys flying in to work with him.
eddie bravo
I thought Davis is an awesome wrestler, though.
joe rogan
I would imagine.
Yeah.
No, Phil is awesome.
eddie bravo
Oh, there we go.
joe rogan
Look, it's still going on.
Glover can still catch him with 120 to go.
eddie bravo
Oh, yeah.
That's why I wanted the finish right there.
joe rogan
Deep breaths here.
eddie bravo
You know what I mean?
Because of this.
joe rogan
Go on.
Get on with that.
Oh, dude.
Over the top of that right hand.
Oh, he heard him.
He heard him with that one, man.
That was clean on the jaw.
eddie bravo
Whoa, if he comes back...
joe rogan
Phil's mouth open.
eddie bravo
Sure move, Phil!
joe rogan
Oh, man.
Nice drop down on that single.
Oh, look at that.
eddie bravo
He's chasing him.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
Phil knew he had to stay on that dude.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
And if he drags him to the ground, the shit is all his.
eddie bravo
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Game over.
ian mccall
It's big.
joe rogan
He recovered.
unidentified
He recovered.
eddie bravo
Look at that.
joe rogan
He keeps going.
He's a wrestler.
He can do this all day.
Especially his grappling cardio is different than striking cardio because striking cardio is more labored.
So when you see him standing up and he's tired, he's still moving kind of labored.
But when you see him on the ground, he looks fucking sharp as shit even when he's tired.
eddie bravo
He's gassing all over the place and recovering all over the place.
Gassing, recovering, gassing, recovering.
joe rogan
But his wrestling, he doesn't gas when he's grappling.
That's his base, right?
eddie bravo
Any grappler can gasp.
joe rogan
He's breathing while he's doing it.
You can tell he's taking some big-ass deep breaths.
His mouth is open, but he's fucking dominating.
brendan schaub
He can do this all night.
He could go five rounds of this.
joe rogan
He can do this all night.
He's got to burn hot.
You have to burn hot in order to wear a guy out.
He's got to wear himself out.
We're getting a view of his cardio.
brendan schaub
Why is Glover putting his hand out?
That's called an ass-whooping, son.
joe rogan
He's getting the fuck beat out of it.
What happened?
unidentified
Is that it?
brendan schaub
It was a San Diego ass-whooping in Brazil.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was pretty goddamn strong.
brendan schaub
That was crazy, man.
ian mccall
That's three rounds.
joe rogan
That's three rounds.
He looked like that after the first round, remember?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a big victory right there.
I'm just calling him a big victory.
unidentified
Huge.
joe rogan
Because if he loses this fight, I fucking quit!
Quit my MMA, bro.
I'm going straight to pro wrestling.
Damn, I said...
ian mccall
Powerbomb everyone.
joe rogan
Big fucking loss, man.
eddie bravo
You know the mentality you need to get to that point?
Where Phil Davis is?
unidentified
That kind of...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Especially coming off...
brendan schaub
Especially coming off that loss of Anthony Jones.
joe rogan
He's that front kick and that right hand right at it again.
Damn, that is a nice move.
That front kick right hand he does.
And he throws the right hand like a jab.
His right leg is forward when he throws it.
But he's got a lot of pop behind it.
It catches you like it.
It cracks you with it in the end.
eddie bravo
Ian, you're gassing all over the place constantly and recovering constantly, right?
If you ain't gassing all over the place, you ain't pushing yourself hard enough, right?
ian mccall
Exactly.
That's how you break people.
joe rogan
That's what we just saw.
We just saw Phil break them.
eddie bravo
Shit about cardio my whole life.
I always heard people talk about cardio.
Tito Ortiz would talk about cardio.
Randy Couture, they talk about cardio.
And I always thought cardio was how long can you go before you get really tired?
Like you're like huffing and puffing.
That's your cardio.
I got like eight minutes of cardio.
That's what I always thought it was.
No one really explained it to me at all.
I never trained like a professional athlete until Metamorris.
And once...
unidentified
Phil Davis.
eddie bravo
Of course he won.
Of course he won.
So I just decided, man, what am I going to do for cardio?
I was lifting weights.
I was doing a lot of Jiu Jitsu.
I was training with Jean Jacques.
And I just decided, fuck, I'm going to do sprints.
And I'm going to go to the pool, the 24-hour fitness.
And I'm going to figure this out by myself.
I just drove to the fucking pool.
They had a big clock.
And I never do this.
I'm not a professional.
I go, I'm going to sprint 20 times across the pool.
I've done sprints before in the past.
20 times.
And as soon as the clock, the big clock in the pool hits the 12, that's when I'll take off.
And then I might finish at 25 or 30, and I'll stay at the other side of the pool until it hits 12 again.
And it hits 12, I go, boom, sprint again.
I just made this up, and I did it 20 times.
joe rogan
The problem with doing cardio in the pool is that you don't get to read your heart rate.
Do they have like a cardio monitor that works in a pool?
unidentified
This is what I did.
eddie bravo
This is what I did.
I kept it simple.
I just went as fast as I fucking can.
And I didn't need anybody coaching me because my law was I'm only going to rest until it hits 12 again.
So I better bust ass.
So I was racing across the pool so I can get that time to rest.
And what I learned about myself is holy shit.
Every time I spinnered across, I got really tired.
The first three were easy, but when I got to 10, to 12, my plan was, I just said 20, because metamorphosis is 20 minutes.
I go, I'm going to do 20. And do that at 10, 11, 12, I was dead.
Just out on the edge of the pool, barely.
I was dying.
There's all these old people at the pool and shit.
They're going, what the fuck is this guy doing?
I just made this shit up.
But what I learned, I learned it.
You could be...
Dead.
Tired.
And recover within 30 seconds.
That's what I was learning.
And I would be dead.
When I hit the 9, I'd be like...
When I hit the 10, I'd be like...
But by the time I hit the 11, I'd go...
Let's go again.
Another sprint.
Bam!
You get across.
unidentified
Boom.
eddie bravo
I end up with 30 seconds of rest.
Same thing.
So you learn it.
Holy shit!
You can recover over and over.
If I didn't know this, when I'd get to that point in grappling, I would go, I'm done.
I would break.
joe rogan
I'd go, I'm done.
eddie bravo
I have new more gas.
unidentified
Whoa!
joe rogan
Someone needs to talk to him.
brendan schaub
That's how you know you're the champ.
ian mccall
It's like the Bieber effect.
brendan schaub
When you put that shit on, everyone goes, nah, it looks great, man.
joe rogan
Let's show that karate video.
Let's show that karate video.
aubrey marcus
Calling out Anderson Silva.
joe rogan
Powerful.
Phil, did he call out Anderson Silva?
aubrey marcus
He called out Anderson Silva.
joe rogan
That's what he said?
brendan schaub
He goes, I beat a lot of Brazilians, but there's only one I want to fight next.
joe rogan
That's Anderson Silva.
Anderson's fighting Nick Diaz.
Why is he saying that?
brendan schaub
It's a real call out, right?
eddie bravo
Man, he talks a lot.
aubrey marcus
He's got a triple knot in that tie.
I think it's fat.
joe rogan
He knows what he's doing.
He's backing it up, though.
Here's the video.
Let's watch this shit.
So the dudes are karate duking it out.
eddie bravo
Watch the ref.
Watch the ref.
joe rogan
Wow, they are going off, man.
Damn, where is this taking place?
eddie bravo
Check this out.
joe rogan
Where is this taking place?
brendan schaub
It's a gymnasium for sure.
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
He just took out that guy, too.
unidentified
He just fucking went like elephant on Rampage.
joe rogan
No one's stopping him either, man.
unidentified
That's like those scenes at the circus where an animal just goes fucking crazy.
joe rogan
So he tries to push them away.
They don't push away.
Boom!
He knocks that guy in the face.
And look at this guy.
Dang.
brendan schaub
This guy gets tore up, too.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
That guy gets tore up.
That's insane.
ian mccall
They have a camera crew there.
joe rogan
Well, they're filming today.
That's why we're watching it.
aubrey marcus
The competitors are like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Maybe that was a movie.
Maybe that was a movie.
eddie bravo
Maybe someone was filming the making of a movie.
joe rogan
I don't know.
That looked like a real fight, man.
It was a movie.
That was a real fight.
Those guys were really hitting each other.
That was good technique, too.
Where'd that take place, Jamie?
unidentified
I'm looking.
It doesn't necessarily say.
joe rogan
I think it's Russia.
Yeah, that looks like something would happen in Russia.
ian mccall
Have you seen the amateur boxing fight?
That the guy, after the fight, takes his gloves off and goes over and beats the shit out of the ref.
No way.
It's bad.
joe rogan
I didn't watch that.
brendan schaub
It's an old guy.
ian mccall
It's fucked up.
You see him chase the guy out and they gotta fucking help the old man up and he's falling over.
joe rogan
It's like, ooh, fuck, man.
ian mccall
It wasn't funny like that.
aubrey marcus
Look at the graphics on these games.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
That looks like a dude.
That looks like a real dude.
Look at this.
By the way, it doesn't look like that when you play it.
It just doesn't.
It just doesn't.
I mean, it looks close.
But there's enough clipping and weirdness to it.
The frames per second that they can achieve in these previews, they can just make it look a lot sweeter.
aubrey marcus
We're a couple years from indistinguishable from reality, though, probably on those games.
joe rogan
Well, you're going to be able to have games where you use the Oculus Rift and you play out like a video.
You make a video of things that are actually happening.
And instead of a game engine, just have them do it like a hundred different fucking ways.
Where, you know, have them repeat the same scenarios over and over again from all these different angles.
So that no matter where you are, where you're moving, it feels like you're actually doing it.
You know, you can turn to your left and the fucking...
It's really just like as if you turn to your left.
They'll be able to program those in the same way they do it with stop motion animation where you have to do each individual frame.
They'll just have different possible scenarios that they have people actually act out to the point where they cover the whole room like a fan, like one of those folding fans.
Every ounce of the room gets covered with a possibility.
brendan schaub
Too much.
joe rogan
And then you have this headset on and you're in this room and you can take these possibilities.
It's already been planned out as a video.
And then you watch it, you play it out, and you fucking shoot aliens, like in real time, and you fuck, and you get on spaceships.
ian mccall
Nerdy gets laid every day.
brendan schaub
I'm not interested in that.
joe rogan
It's gonna happen, man.
aubrey marcus
You get a suit that has that electro-stem, you know how when you put electro-stem on it, like causes the muscle to collapse, you know?
So if you get hit somewhere, it'll just cramp up, you know, send it through a pulse.
No, they don't have it yet.
ian mccall
You digest the theory?
aubrey marcus
It's gonna happen, you know, so that'll like freeze you up, you know, on that one side and you have to like limp through.
joe rogan
They have those things already, those stim machines.
People use them already.
They're supposed to help recovery.
ian mccall
Yeah, the complex machine?
joe rogan
Yeah, have you added that shit to like a suit?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Something bites you.
You feel the teeth clamp in your body.
Give up some predictions here.
What do we think is going to happen here?
brendan schaub
Mendes' decision.
joe rogan
Aldo, when you say Aldo, how quickly?
First round?
Second round?
Third round?
Third round?
Mendez decision says Brenna Schaub.
unidentified
Mendez second round TKO. Second round TKO says Warrior Poet.
joe rogan
He gives zero fucks.
He's making calls.
Eddie Bravo.
eddie bravo
I'm going to say...
unidentified
God damn it, I don't know.
joe rogan
Damn it, I don't know.
I'm going with damn it, I don't know as well.
Kareem Abdul-Chukmal.
What do you think?
unidentified
I don't know.
I'm going with I don't know also, man.
This is a tough one.
joe rogan
It's a tough one.
brendan schaub
Great picks, gentlemen.
It's really fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, this side of the table takes zero chance of pretending.
Here's my take on it.
Aldo is fucking incredibly difficult to take down.
Like one of the most difficult to take down until he gets tired.
The problem is, by the time you get him tired and you take him down, you are eating some of the fastest fucking leg kicks in the business.
unidentified
I agree.
joe rogan
And that combination, the duchy, the left hook to the body, and then the right leg kick, he throws that motherfucker as good as anybody that's ever walked the face of the planet.
aubrey marcus
Yeah, but Mendez is throwing that against pads every day.
That's part of playing things.
joe rogan
It is possible that Mendez can win this fight.
Don't get me wrong.
Mendez can knock out anyone on the fucking planet if he connects.
The way he knocked out Clay Guida, the way he knocked out Darren Elkins, if Mendes cracks you, he can fucking put it on you.
brendan schaub
He's the hardest hitter in this division.
joe rogan
Unbelievable athlete, ridiculous freak athlete.
ian mccall
It's hard too.
joe rogan
It's a wild fight.
I don't know.
Would I say earlier that I have no idea?
I have no idea.
Mendes can win this fucking fight.
Don't get me wrong, no doubt about it.
And he can win by knockout.
I think he can do that to anybody.
The question is, if you watch their first fight...
And you watch their second fight, how much has he improved?
And that's the only thing we're going to find out tonight.
We're going to find out how much he's improved and whether or not Aldo is in any way regressed.
You know, whether or not his injuries, he's had a bunch of injuries, he's had like a nagging neck injury, he's had all sorts of different things that have...
You know, fucked with him.
He's had kidney stones that he's gotten that either are...
It's weird who you talk to.
It's either it's genetic or it's from weight cutting.
There's a lot of people that believe it's an either-or thing.
That it might be genetic and you get exacerbated by weight cutting.
unidentified
And he's fucking huge.
joe rogan
He's a big guy.
He's a big guy.
And he struggles to make that 145. And I think that's one of the reasons why he's been having a hard time in the later rounds.
But goddamn, to get through those fucking rounds, you gotta go through hell, son.
That beating he put on Uriah Faber's leg.
Holy shit, dude.
He's something.
He's something, man.
He's a lightning-fast, ridiculous striker who's also world-class at jiu-jitsu.
His jiu-jitsu game is fucking real good.
You just don't see it.
But occasionally you do see it.
Like in the Mike Brown fight, when he got Brown on his back and he sunk those hooks in.
That is a legit black belt back mount to smashing.
Yeah.
ian mccall
Were you at the Uriah fight with him?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian mccall
I was out there.
It was fucking...
When Aldo came out to the I'm gonna run this town tonight, I was the only person in Sacramento going, Yeah!
unidentified
Fuck yeah, bro!
ian mccall
Oh my god, like, what are you doing?
I'm like, he's going to fuck your boy up.
joe rogan
Just wait.
Ed Soares told me about that before.
He was so excited.
unidentified
His manager was like, he's gonna come out to that Jay-Z song.
joe rogan
Run this town tonight.
unidentified
And we were like, oh, shit.
joe rogan
He's going deep.
ian mccall
Uriah is the coolest person in Sacramento.
eddie bravo
It used to be the scary combo.
The scary combo was the elite wrestler with Chuck Liddell striking.
That was a nightmare.
Like, what the fuck are you gonna do?
You might get shut off.
There's a good chance.
Tonight, you're gonna get shut off.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
eddie bravo
But...
The combo of black belt and jujitsu and vicious striker, damn, that's a whole different dimension.
joe rogan
It is, because the ground game is a more dangerous ground game.
eddie bravo
You're trying to get this guy to the ground, but he might choke you.
There's a very good chance that he's better than you on the ground, so what now?
What the fuck are you going to do now?
joe rogan
It opens up possibly.
I mean, wrestlers in this day and age are not really just wrestlers.
Pretty much everybody has some ground game knowledge.
But you'd be amazed at how many guys are fighting in the UFC that, you know, they really don't work on certain positions.
Like, they never work on being on their back.
ian mccall
Yeah, I've rolled with some people that are in UFC. I'm like, I'm fucking tiny, and I just balled you up.
Like, and it's, granted, I've been, everyone talks about my wrestling, but I'm not a world-class wrestler.
I'm just good at MMA wrestling.
I mean, I do beat up kids in college and stuff, but I never accomplish anything.
joe rogan
Yeah, he comes off this all the time.
It's all, it's a shit.
ian mccall
I've been doing jiu-jitsu for just as long.
I'm only a purple belt, but that's because my coach is my coach, and I don't wear a gi ever.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's probably...
unidentified
Yeah, it's hard when you don't wear a gi.
ian mccall
Jeeva's very, like, he's amazing.
You know jiu-jitsu, but you put on a gi.
That's how you get your belts.
joe rogan
Don't get a bravo start on the gi, please.
unidentified
Why do you hate the gi so much?
ian mccall
No, no, I don't hate the gi.
unidentified
I'm holding on to my rash card for safety.
eddie bravo
You gotta remember where you came from.
ian mccall
I know.
joe rogan
I just love the fact you're wearing a fucking Hoist Gracie t-shirt after all the shit you guys have been talking about.
You haven't talked any shit.
eddie bravo
I haven't talked any shit.
joe rogan
I put up some memes.
unidentified
No, I'll put some memes.
joe rogan
Some memes up.
eddie bravo
I'm like, I talk shit in a funny way.
He talks shit in an angry way.
ian mccall
Yeah, he's really mad at you.
unidentified
He hates me.
He has anger.
joe rogan
He shouldn't be mad at you, man.
eddie bravo
I talk shit in a funny way.
joe rogan
You've been nothing but fucking praising of him from the jump, man.
I mean, we've both said that if it wasn't for voice, we would have never been in jiu-jitsu in the first place.
He just needs to sit.
He's also a proud guy.
He needs to sit down and realize with Eddie and just get the two of them together.
If they spoke for more than half an hour, Hoyce would realize.
Eddie is never disrespectful.
eddie bravo
No, he would never realize that.
joe rogan
He just beat your brother, that's all.
eddie bravo
He would never realize that.
joe rogan
No way.
eddie bravo
He needs an ayahuasca trip more than anybody.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it's unfortunate because a lot of people are upset at him for this whole thing.
I mean, I've read a lot of forum threads about people with, like, legit arguments like that guy used to be a hero to them.
And then you hear him saying shit like this.
It's like, this is just not what my hero would say.
Like, why are you saying that?
Even the MMA websites were talking about the things he was saying about pot.
eddie bravo
I, in a crazy way, I know this is going to sound insane, but...
I appreciate it.
He's thinking about me.
That's fucking nuts.
unidentified
That's Horace Gracie.
eddie bravo
Horace Gracie saying my name?
That's crazy.
That's the ultimate UFC legend.
I think it's pretty cool.
ian mccall
That's flattering, I think.
eddie bravo
When he starts talking more shit, I like it.
unidentified
I'm like, oh, what did he say?
I'm like, cool.
brendan schaub
I thought he sounded with Bellator.
eddie bravo
He said he would punch my nose if I had a gentleman rubber guard.
He would punch you in the nose.
joe rogan
What did you say?
brendan schaub
Hoist with Bellator.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's signed with Bellator.
He's going to do, not as a fighter, he's going to be some ambassador.
You know, Scott Coker is a friend of the UFC. He used to own Strikeforce.
I think it's going to be a different relationship with Bellator.
And I think...
brendan schaub
I think it's good for the sport.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
It's always good for the sport.
Look, they know what they're doing.
They know that they have a B-level organization.
There's nothing wrong with that.
There's nothing wrong with having a B. They have some great fights.
A lot of fun fights.
But, you know, they've got Emanuel Newton.
The UFC has Jon Jones.
You know, there's just...
Emanuel Newton is a very good fighter.
But he's not Jon Jones.
And, you know, they had fucking Hector Lombard who might be the motherfucker at 170. He might be the motherfucker.
ian mccall
It's scary.
joe rogan
He might be the motherfucker.
brendan schaub
Everyone's terrified.
joe rogan
Everybody's scared of that dude.
unidentified
Tyrone Wooden's like, uh, not really interested.
joe rogan
Thanks anyway.
ian mccall
Don't want to do it.
joe rogan
I'm just going to take some time off.
Think this over.
And you know, who's scarier than Woodley physically?
Woodley's a fucking beast.
brendan schaub
Uh, Hector Lombard.
unidentified
Exactly.
brendan schaub
He looks like a centipede.
He looks like a centipede.
He's got dudes scared in him.
He looks like a cartoon shredded.
ian mccall
A bigger, scarier...
eddie bravo
He looks like a buff dude in a real old, old cartoon where they'd be just like a dude who's just like really buff and he looks fake.
joe rogan
His ass and legs just don't even...
unidentified
Me and Cal talk about this.
brendan schaub
He has a tailpiece on him.
I thought it was a professional bodybuilder with spray-painted sweats on.
joe rogan
Yo, dude.
brendan schaub
I was like, what?
unidentified
I was like, look at the ass on that one.
brendan schaub
Calum's like, Jesus, man.
joe rogan
He's just all judoed the fuck out.
eddie bravo
Yeah, we haven't asked for days.
Oh, we did have some gay talk.
Okay, we did.
ian mccall
Okay, so we're all good.
brendan schaub
Represent my boy Calum.
ian mccall
Just a tip.
joe rogan
Remember, we said that if we were gay, this place would be a mess.
eddie bravo
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
We'd be having an orgy.
eddie bravo
There wouldn't be no fight companion.
We'd be having an orgy watching the fights on ecstasy.
joe rogan
You'd pull your dick out and be like, what?
Darren Elkins won?
unidentified
Shove it right back in One more Do you want the quitting?
eddie bravo
He called quits in his head, but someone called him out and there's 10 minutes left.
I got another one, bro.
ian mccall
Let's do it.
Let's go light!
joe rogan
It's not hard!
Let's hear what it sounds like when they introduced...
ian mccall
I can't go hard anymore.
joe rogan
I want to hear what it sounds like when they introduced Aldo.
ian mccall
Dude, you said light!
You said light!
joe rogan
Is there a volume button on that?
I want to hear this.
When they introduced Aldo, that place is going to go fucking shithouse insane.
Give it a good crank, Jamie.
Crank that bitch way the fuck up.
Look at the size of that place.
eddie bravo
Jamie, don't listen to me.
Turn it down.
joe rogan
Crank it up, Jamie.
I just love hearing the Brazilian fans scream.
You ain't seen nothing.
Aubrey's been there.
Dude, it's like no other place in the world when it comes to the enthusiasm of the fans.
ian mccall
It's cooled off though.
joe rogan
I heard Ireland is cooled off.
ian mccall
More off the charts.
unidentified
Listen, listen, listen.
joe rogan
Here it is.
unidentified
Defending.
eddie bravo
So far, it sounds like fucking Stephan Bonney.
unidentified
You're never going to really grasp it unless you're there.
eddie bravo
This is not the part of Brazil that he's from.
He grew up on the other side.
joe rogan
But Conor McGregor in Ireland, huh?
ian mccall
I fought in Rio, and then I fought in Dublin, and Dublin was, and Rio is amazing, but Dublin was fucking insane.
aubrey marcus
They're just drunker.
ian mccall
Oh, they're drunk.
joe rogan
Well, they're wild people, man.
They're wild people, man.
ian mccall
At first I got them, I was kind of like, fuck this kid, Connor.
It was kind of annoying.
And then I'm sitting there watching him psychoanalyzing the whole thing and just kind of watching it all unfold.
I'm like, this motherfucker's crazy.
And everywhere you go in Ireland, they're like, oh, are you here for Connor?
Yeah, I guess so, right?
I guess that's why I'm here.
joe rogan
Here we go.
Mendes moving forward.
Oh, leg kick.
Look at this.
unidentified
Mendez in his face right away.
aubrey marcus
That's that Dwayne movement there.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
Look at this.
ian mccall
Never mind.
He does look like TJ. I lied.
Again.
joe rogan
Dude, looking good.
Landing shots.
Oh, shit!
Dude!
Aldo!
Mendez looking slick.
ian mccall
I love when Aldo gets ghetto like that.
joe rogan
Good right leg kick by Mendez right there, though.
brendan schaub
This one might not go to decision.
unidentified
No.
ian mccall
This is going to...
Someone's going to sleep, I think.
joe rogan
Oh, check that one.
Saw that one coming.
Good job.
Oh, right hand by Mendes.
The more he can make Aldo work like this, man.
Mendes got a little bit of a mouse in that left eye.
A little bit of a mouse.
brendan schaub
And if Mendes...
ian mccall
Oh!
joe rogan
He's rocked!
He's rocked!
That was a big left hook!
ian mccall
Look at his legs!
brendan schaub
It was wobbly, son.
joe rogan
Left hook.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus Christ, that fucking uppercut.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
unidentified
I was going to the sky.
joe rogan
Mendes, stop going southpawing him occasionally.
eddie bravo
Fucking fearless, dude.
brendan schaub
Good job.
joe rogan
Mendes looking to get this fucking title, man.
Are you kidding me?
ian mccall
This is fucking exciting.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it is.
Ooh, he's looking at uncork right there in that right hand.
Oh, Aldo lands one!
eddie bravo
Ludwig creating monsters.
ian mccall
Seriously.
joe rogan
But look, now Mendes is right in front of him.
He doesn't want to do this.
unidentified
I know!
brendan schaub
Move, Mendes!
joe rogan
Go back to what got you there.
ian mccall
Gotta get on your bike, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you know what?
You get that feeling like you might finish this fucking guy.
And you're standing right in front of him.
brendan schaub
I know, why are we doing this?
joe rogan
That's how Aldo catches people.
That's how Aldo catches people.
You don't want to be standing in front of him, man.
You want to go right back to what got you to that spot.
I mean, he's definitely recovered by now.
You've got to assume he's recovered.
eddie bravo
He's going to throw a flying knee right here.
joe rogan
Maybe he hasn't recovered.
Maybe Mendes really...
brendan schaub
He doesn't look the same.
joe rogan
He doesn't look the same.
Maybe Mendes knows he hurt him.
Like right there, that didn't look like he's...
ian mccall
Oh, a body shot.
unidentified
Nice.
joe rogan
Oh, another hard leg kick.
brendan schaub
He's going to go high with it.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this!
And he hit a left hook.
brendan schaub
That looks like it hurt him a little bit.
joe rogan
That left hook look like it hurt.
brendan schaub
Mouse over the eyes, son.
joe rogan
Good defense by Mendez, too.
But Aldo's so goddamn sudden.
He can just end shit.
ian mccall
And everything he throws is perfect.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Perfect technique.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Mendez just standing right in front of Aldo.
Who the fuck would have thought this?
Oh, vicious left!
Dude, nice jab by Mendez.
How much better did his fucking striking get?
unidentified
Dwayne Ludwig.
joe rogan
Fucking Ludwig is a wizard.
He really is a goddamn wizard.
A crazy OCD wizard.
Oh, nice left hook!
Goddamn!
ian mccall
Oh!
unidentified
Oh, damn!
He's like, no more knees, please.
joe rogan
Oh, hard leg kick.
ian mccall
Oh, checked yours.
joe rogan
Dude, Aldo's lit up.
Look at his face.
unidentified
Oh, left hook over the top again!
That's awesome.
Oh, man!
joe rogan
Oh, shit!
137 to go.
Damn.
Holy shit.
What a fucking fight.
eddie bravo
Listen to the crowd now.
joe rogan
Just miss with that epicot.
They're screaming at you.
Oh, you can't just eat that kick.
He just ate that one.
eddie bravo
They're singing in the crowd.
joe rogan
Ate a jab right there, too.
ian mccall
Eye poke?
brendan schaub
Come on, Rev. They're working it out, bud.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
They worked it out.
Don't give him a chance.
He needs to give him a chance.
aubrey marcus
Oh, man.
brendan schaub
Back to the footwork, son.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I hope Dwayne Lubbock's screaming that at him right now.
Yeah, he's trying to stay on him, but, you know, Aldo deserves his fucking rest if it's a legit eye poke.
Let's take a look at it right here.
aubrey marcus
Yeah, kinda hit his eyebrow.
joe rogan
That's not an eye poke where I come from.
brendan schaub
In Aurora, Colorado, that's not an eye poke.
joe rogan
Okay, so the consensus is he's probably taking a little bit of a break right here, right?
brendan schaub
Yes, 100%.
Bet and move.
joe rogan
100%, right?
And there's nothing wrong with that, right?
ian mccall
This isn't his first rodeo.
joe rogan
Yeah, and look, it legitimately did go in his eye.
So he's taking a little bit of a break.
ian mccall
Maybe it hurts more than we...
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's allowed to.
brendan schaub
You say a poke, I say it.
joe rogan
So if he's allowed to, it's not really cheating.
Did I get poked in the eye?
Yeah, he's probably not even saying anything.
Hey, it went in my eye.
Are you okay?
Went in my eye.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
Right back at it.
unidentified
Ooh!
joe rogan
Right hand!
eddie bravo
Oh, that left hook.
Oh!
joe rogan
Bendis takes him down!
Look at this scramble!
Mad scramble!
ian mccall
Kick to the body!
eddie bravo
Hard kick to the body, man!
He could not keep him down!
unidentified
A lot of time left!
ian mccall
Finish him!
Finish him!
joe rogan
Oh, man!
You got to finish him for a minute!
Got to get that knee across.
Big left hand!
unidentified
Go back to half guard!
joe rogan
18 seconds to go!
unidentified
Half guard!
Scrabble! - Come on, they got it! - Oh, God.
I'm having a heart attack. - They're too important.
Oh!
joe rogan
Green hand by Mendez!
unidentified
Mendez, footwork!
Oh!
eddie bravo
Overcut!
joe rogan
Almost over!
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
The fucking bell!
He's fucked!
unidentified
Holy shit!
ian mccall
Holy shit!
joe rogan
He's out of it, man!
ian mccall
Look at him!
joe rogan
Holy shit!
unidentified
He'll recover!
eddie bravo
He'll recover!
Holy shit!
joe rogan
What a fucking round!
ian mccall
That's like a movie round.
The wars coming out of these fucking two gyms together are just turning amazing.
joe rogan
Oh my god, what a fucking round.
brendan schaub
Let's hear what Drano says.
ian mccall
That's one of the best rounds I've seen in a long book of time.
Look at this.
joe rogan
Look at the end of the fight.
Boom!
At the buzzer!
He relaxed!
unidentified
His eyes are closed.
ian mccall
Mendez was beating him up at first, and then Mendez got done.
joe rogan
You see the girl in the background shaking her finger?
ian mccall
That was after the buzzer!
unidentified
Fucking asshole!
ian mccall
Nature let me know!
eddie bravo
She's gonna get on Twitter and then get fired.
unidentified
Watch.
joe rogan
That's gotta be Mendez's girlfriend.
ian mccall
Yeah, no Brazilian chick's gonna be wagging her finger at the camera.
unidentified
Or, if she is, she's saying, you showed her not said shit!
eddie bravo
He recovered.
He's fine.
joe rogan
Yeah, you say that.
eddie bravo
He's fine.
joe rogan
Are you crazy?
eddie bravo
Dude, that guy is a fucking...
brendan schaub
He might be concussed.
joe rogan
Dude, he might be concussed.
brendan schaub
Cross-eyed birdies?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Dude, look at him right now.
eddie bravo
You don't know, man.
joe rogan
The only one who knows right now is Chad.
That's it.
He's the only one who knows.
Look at his eyes.
eddie bravo
I know.
Just me and Chad.
joe rogan
He's glazed Even if he does recover well, that was a stunning punch.
brendan schaub
Back to the footwork.
eddie bravo
Look at him.
Dancing around like an angel.
joe rogan
Dude, he took...
ian mccall
Like a tiny little buff angel.
joe rogan
He took a bunch of fucking punches off of his clock right there.
brendan schaub
Look at him.
eddie bravo
He looks beautiful.
Look at that stuff.
joe rogan
If he gets hit again, he's going to be, for sure, his chin's going to be diminished by that.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Are you crazy?
eddie bravo
Look at that.
joe rogan
That was a slip.
eddie bravo
No.
joe rogan
Eddie Bravo's giving up on doing commentary.
unidentified
It's just comedy now.
eddie bravo
Chad just looks better.
ian mccall
He's not moving on that left leg.
eddie bravo
Every way, every level.
brendan schaub
He's buying time with his footwork.
joe rogan
Oh!
Nut kick.
unidentified
Oh, no.
joe rogan
He was trying to hit him with a knee.
He was trying to catch Aldo in his...
brendan schaub
This break helps out Chad, though.
eddie bravo
Here we go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This break helps out Chad.
This one does, yeah.
Unless the fight ends here.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Dude, weird shit's happened before.
Let's take a look at it.
unidentified
Oh, a strong, strong foot to the tank.
joe rogan
Okay, now, Ian, if he's got a metal cup on, how much difference is it?
ian mccall
For the front, the dick and the balls, Beans and Frank, it's fine, but it's the undercarriage.
joe rogan
So that shot still hurts.
That one sucks.
eddie bravo
In the taint?
ian mccall
Yeah, in the taint area.
Underneath, you still go up into your junk and it hurts.
I got kicked in the dick the other day, and I had a line bruise down half my dick.
joe rogan
In what circles does that conversation come up?
I got kicked in the dick.
unidentified
It hurts when I pee.
ian mccall
She's like, well, you got something to tell me?
I got kicked.
joe rogan
I got hit in the dick once so bad, I just started wearing a cup for jujitsu because my dick, I took my jock off and it was filled with blood.
eddie bravo
Oh!
joe rogan
Yeah, and so I was thinking, God damn it, do I go to the emergency room?
And then I decided, what would I do if that was my nose?
I was like, if it was my nose, I wouldn't go to the emergency room.
So I just went home and I jerked off because I figured if my dick got hard, I didn't have to worry.
And it was okay.
ian mccall
It's weird how we're on the stage.
joe rogan
I pissed blood for a few days though.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
It was just a guard pass, too.
Somebody was passing my guard and he shoved his knee right into my dick hole.
unidentified
See, as a girl, I get nervous about that.
Like, I just wish y'all would wear cubs all the time.
joe rogan
I made kids after that, though, so it's all good.
Back to this fucking awesome fight.
eddie bravo
Shit.
joe rogan
Oh, there's a hard one.
That was a hard one.
And he shook...
Why did he shake his finger?
aubrey marcus
Because he checked it.
joe rogan
He checked it?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian mccall
Let's have a kill.
joe rogan
Well, this is the thing about Aldo.
Everybody knows that in the second, third, and fourth round, he starts to slowly begin his taper off.
And oftentimes in the fifth round, it's just not the same fighter.
For the first couple of rounds, he's a motherfucker.
eddie bravo
Ooh, that rocked him.
joe rogan
But this was a crazy first round, and here we are in the second.
ian mccall
Nice body kick.
joe rogan
If Mendez might be starting...
Ooh, that was a good one.
Mendez might start to think that he's getting into him.
But you know what?
Mendes has not been known for his cardio either because he's such a beastly dude.
You know, those beastly guys, the Lombards and the Woodleys.
unidentified
Too much muscle.
joe rogan
There's so much muscle involved.
aubrey marcus
And so much fast twitch, too.
It's not that slow endurance runner muscle, you know?
joe rogan
Like the Nick Diaz type muscle.
That guy, you never see him tired.
This is a fucking great fight, though, huh?
Because this is where it gets weird.
It gets weird if you can get into the third, fourth, and fifth round.
Especially if Mendez starts getting loose.
eddie bravo
Who won the first round?
joe rogan
Fucking crazy round, but I've got to say Aldo.
Because Aldo had him almost out cold.
ian mccall
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You've got to drop twice instead of once.
joe rogan
Yeah, and the last one was giant.
The last one was just a...
Oh, nice body kick!
Oh, shit!
Mendez getting loose!
Oh, shit!
unidentified
Slipped!
joe rogan
Oh, check that one.
Owie, owie, owie, owie, owie.
Left hook and right hand over the top.
Wow.
Aldo loves that left hook.
He's got a fucking nasty whipping one, too.
aubrey marcus
No matter how much adrenaline you have, when you check a leg kick like that, shin to shin, it still hurts, right?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, never did.
aubrey marcus
In the fight?
joe rogan
Well, unless you're one of those Thai dudes like Malapet.
You ever seen Malapet fight where he kicks guys shin to shin on purpose to break them down?
ian mccall
We just had Yotsin Klai at our gym.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
ian mccall
145 pounds, kicking a bag.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
ian mccall
Never seen.
joe rogan
He's a ferocious guy, man.
ian mccall
One of my training partners just beat Malapet.
joe rogan
Really?
Who is it?
ian mccall
Shane Oblonsky, fighting glory.
joe rogan
Oh, no shit.
Dude, Yatzenklai fought in lion fights recently.
Holy shit, is he good.
ian mccall
He fought with the Indian guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I love watching pure Thai.
Like those pure Thai fighters like him, like Malapet.
Yeltsin Kly is the motherfucker though, man.
He's 30 years old, right?
And he has some ungodly amount of fights.
300 fights.
That's so crazy.
ian mccall
Yeah, him, Sanchai, Superbon, guys like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ian mccall
Because when they all come over, they come and hang out with my coach.
joe rogan
Oh, do they?
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Oh, that's amazing.
eddie bravo
Is Tyrell the most hardcore?
They allow the most stuff?
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, they allow you to clinch up and throw each other around.
ian mccall
You can kick dudes when they're on the ground.
Pretty much when they're on the ground.
eddie bravo
You can throw them and shit.
unidentified
Isn't that like Dracar?
What is that?
eddie bravo
That Draco fights?
joe rogan
Yeah, Draco.
They used to have Draca.
They used to have takedowns.
Moe Smith fought in that shit.
unidentified
Is that the most hardcore?
joe rogan
I'll go tag him again at the end of the round.
ian mccall
It just sweeps and kind of...
eddie bravo
What's the most hardcore rule for striking?
aubrey marcus
Mendes got to get him thinking about the take time.
ian mccall
I'd say Muay Thai.
joe rogan
Mendes got to drag him into the third.
ian mccall
Because they just bludgeon each other.
unidentified
But they just punch and kick it still.
eddie bravo
Wouldn't that be more hardcore if you let them hold?
joe rogan
I think so.
I think it should be Muay Thai rules.
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
I like lion fights better.
They allow full elbows, Muay Thai, they clinch up, they hold on to each other for a while, they ragdoll each other, knee to the body, elbow over the top.
They don't even have elbows in Glory.
Glory is all kickboxing, like Dutch style.
ian mccall
We have some amazing Americans right now.
I mean, you've got Kevin Ross, Joe Schilling, Romy Adonza, Kai Hollenbeck.
And these are all guys that we're friends with.
To watch them fight is fucking incredible.
joe rogan
How about Schilling's fucking fight in glory against...
What is his name?
ian mccall
Simon Marcus.
joe rogan
Simon Marcus.
Oh my god.
ian mccall
And then he fought...
So that was an extra round, so a fourth round.
Then he fought another fight and went three rounds.
unidentified
Incredible.
ian mccall
And then he went and fought in the finals and fought to a decision.
joe rogan
Incredible.
ian mccall
With Artem.
And Artem's a fucking badass.
joe rogan
Artem is a motherfucker.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
He's so talented.
ian mccall
You see that spinning backhand that he hit him with?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian mccall
Let off the slip.
joe rogan
I just love the way he fights, too, with his hands down and moves like a snake.
Mendes coming at him now.
brendan schaub
This is the round you picked it up in.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is the...
Look at this.
He's already...
aubrey marcus
He's got to show the shot.
brendan schaub
I bet you that's the game plan.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I bet it is the shot.
brendan schaub
It's a slow pace.
joe rogan
Okay, now things are looking way better for Mendez.
You're digging into the third, fourth, and fifth rounds.
Traditionally, you're dealing with a different Aldo.
Oh, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're a sad group of fucking non-fuck-gay orgy-having dudes.
ian mccall
Have you ever had someone cut your eye with their finger?
Have you ever cut your eye before?
joe rogan
No, but you know the Winklejohn story, right?
Mike Winklejohn, the great trainer from Jackson's Academy, went blind because a guy he was holding pads for, his toenail went into his eyeball, sliced his eyeball open and was oozing out into his hand.
ian mccall
Just fell out?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh man, this looks like a bad one.
ian mccall
You ever hear of Sean Bias?
joe rogan
Sean Bias.
ian mccall
Yeah, crazy fucking fighter from NorCal.
We were wrestling and I took his back and he went to grab my head and skipped his finger up my eyeball.
I was bleeding out of my eye.
That was one of the scariest moments ever, but also it hurt so bad.
joe rogan
Okay, here we go.
They're back.
They're back.
Is he going to take a point away?
aubrey marcus
No, he said next time.
joe rogan
Next time is take a point away.
Let's see.
Mendez, good defense.
He tagged him.
He tagged him.
He tagged him with that left.
Mendez with the left!
Oh, right hand of Aldo.
Goddamn, that's such a sweet right hand.
That's the one he hurt him with at the end of the first.
Yeah, dude.
Aldo's still here, man.
Great endurance in the starting round.
brendan schaub
I wish Mendes would get to his wrestling a little bit.
ian mccall
Yeah.
aubrey marcus
They show it to him like Kane does always.
joe rogan
Up and down.
It'll make him work, but I think he's worried that if he makes him work like that, then he'll be too tired to do what he needs to do to stay safe on his feet.
Right?
unidentified
He burned a lot of energy earlier in the takedowns.
joe rogan
But he wants to definitely be able to have the speed and movement.
This is the Dwayne Ludwig style, strategy style.
You know what's most interesting about this Dwayne Ludwig approach?
unidentified
He didn't use it We went straight for a drain.
brendan schaub
Don't worry.
joe rogan
I just fire just straight Dwayne had nasty counters.
No, no risk clean work and no fucking no slop in any of his movement.
Yeah Like when he knocked out Jonathan Goulet with that right hand, that shit, he's backing up and that right hand comes off like a piston.
eddie bravo
That's how great Dwayne is, is he knows...
unidentified
Oh shit!
eddie bravo
He knows that the best possible style will be stuff that he doesn't...
ian mccall
Oh, hard left.
joe rogan
Dude, Aldo fucked him up with that jab.
Nice inside leg kick.
Dude, Mendez is trying to win this fucking fight.
When he gets hit, he's getting angry.
And he's like digging his heels in saying, no, not tonight.
Not tonight.
And he's a couple times been tagged and then come back and rocked Aldo.
Because he's just determined to win this fight.
But man, that's when you gotta be careful.
When you're moving towards Aldo, those counters come so sharp.
eddie bravo
Who do you think's winning so far?
joe rogan
It's a good question.
brendan schaub
I think Aldo's up 2-0.
joe rogan
Yeah, Aldo definitely won the first, I think.
In the second round, I would say it's close, but probably Aldo, right?
I would have to go over that again.
brendan schaub
Oh, that was a nice left.
unidentified
Aldo's up 2-0.
joe rogan
You think so?
ian mccall
Definitely.
joe rogan
Both of you guys agree?
ian mccall
Yeah, I think Aldo's up 2-0.
aubrey marcus
I don't know about for sure.
brendan schaub
What about this?
unidentified
100%.
ian mccall
Oh!
unidentified
Big uppercut!
ian mccall
He shook his head!
unidentified
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Aldo is hurt!
eddie bravo
Wow.
unidentified
He's throwing that uppercut and makes it look like he got hurt!
Back and forth.
ian mccall
Oh, that knee again.
eddie bravo
Damn, they hurt each other.
brendan schaub
Aldo's fucking tired.
joe rogan
Back to his feet.
He is fucking tired, but he still dangers his shit.
ian mccall
He throws so hard.
unidentified
Oh.
God damn.
joe rogan
Dude, good sprawl by Aldo too, huh?
And now Mendes is eating shots.
brendan schaub
He's trying to recover here.
ian mccall
Keep punching him.
I don't know why you're fucking stalling out.
joe rogan
He doesn't want him to complete that single, right?
unidentified
Oh!
eddie bravo
Left hand hurt him!
Oh!
brendan schaub
Get him down!
unidentified
Oh shit!
brendan schaub
Look at this!
joe rogan
Look at this!
eddie bravo
Wow!
joe rogan
Mendes is in fucking shit!
unidentified
What a crazy fight!
Holy shit!
joe rogan
Foot stomps!
Marco Hulas on him!
unidentified
Look at that!
ian mccall
He's going Marco Hulas on him!
eddie bravo
I wonder why more people don't do that.
Does that hurt Brandon?
Do these hurt foot stomps?
Is it more like don't do it to me and I want to do it to you?
unidentified
Is it like that?
ian mccall
It's just like those cycle kicks in the front of the knee.
brendan schaub
That's offensive.
It's kind of like, damn, man.
eddie bravo
Yeah, like, dude, that's dirty, right?
joe rogan
Come on, bro.
ian mccall
The footstop and the front knee kick is horrible.
joe rogan
But he's not putting much into these knees, right?
Because he doesn't want to commit.
Oh, those are hard.
I love those.
brendan schaub
He keeps missing.
unidentified
Yeah, Dwayne's telling him to do it, if you look at him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
That's a hard one, man.
eddie bravo
He's like, okay, enough of that shit.
You're gonna break my pinky tongue.
joe rogan
Oh, they're right in front of each other here.
They're talking.
ian mccall
They're talking.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
I wonder what he said.
ian mccall
Oh, yeah, they're laughing at each other.
joe rogan
Oh, that...
brendan schaub
Drop down now.
joe rogan
The plum, baby.
Look out for that knee, son.
aubrey marcus
He probably said fight of the night, son.
joe rogan
Oh, he tagged him with that left hook!
unidentified
Wow.
Ooh, this shit is getting crazy!
eddie bravo
Who won that round?
ian mccall
Aldo.
joe rogan
Man, I don't know.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
That one's talking back and forth.
joe rogan
I'm going to give that round to Mendez because of that.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
And then because of the end.
The fact that he got that takedown, got a hold of him, but Tim, Aldo did crack him right there, but Mendez recovered.
aubrey marcus
It's a hell of a fight.
joe rogan
It's a hell of a fight.
It's close.
Like, that round was close.
I forgot about Aldo dropping him there.
It's close.
But I think Mendes was controlling the end of the fight and tagged him at the end of the fight.
I give a lot of credit to the end of a round.
Or not the end of the fight, the end of a round.
I give a lot of credit to the end of the round.
I give a lot of credit to the end of a fight.
Because I feel like, and this is a stupid way to look at it, but in a street fight, it doesn't matter if a guy kicked your ass.
If the teachers pulled you off of him, you won.
You know what I'm saying?
A guy can hit you with a one-two punch, kick you in the leg, punch you in the liver, you're getting fucked up, and then somehow or another he slips, and you wind up on top, and you're punching him in the face, and the teacher pulls you off.
Most people are going to think you won.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Who was on top at the end?
Oh, Danny was on top, bro.
He was going to kill that kid.
unidentified
Even if you were in their guard about to get armbar too, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, sometimes people...
Well, that's a different one.
Depends on who's watching the fight.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Damn, Olo looks big.
He put a lot of muscle on, didn't he?
ian mccall
I was about to say he looks skinnier than usual.
joe rogan
I thought he looked real muscular.
Alright, here we go.
ian mccall
Whoa!
joe rogan
The deep, my friend!
Goldie almost had an aneurysm right there.
unidentified
Deep.
joe rogan
He's switching up a lot, man.
A lot of southpaw movement.
That's again, Dwayne.
Dwayne, aka Dominic Cruz.
Fourth round is deep water for Aldo.
This is where shit gets weird with him.
This is where Mark Hominick was on top of Aldo.
Don't ever forget that.
And Mark Hominick, a very good striker.
ian mccall
That was the fifth round, right?
joe rogan
Very good striker.
A mouse living in his house.
ian mccall
I didn't know Mike's made of hard ice tea.
joe rogan
It's like someone stored a can of pineapples in his forehead.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Mendez is still sharp, though, dude.
Mendez is still sharp.
He's in good shape for this fight.
That's a fact, man.
Good head movement, too.
Still switching up a lot, man.
And he's not backing off his pace, either.
Both these guys are, like, not committing, though.
They're getting real close.
They're touching, touching.
They're looking for that fucking burst Right hand over the top by Mendes Almost.
Made it again.
aubrey marcus
Leg kicks are slowed way down.
joe rogan
Aldo just shook his head.
They're talking.
brendan schaub
And he's mad because...
joe rogan
Son, that sweet uppercut!
Oh, he's fucking him up, man.
He fucked him up with that left hand, too.
When was the last time we saw Aldo's face busted up like this?
This is unusual.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
He went with a head kick!
Barely missed that.
Holy shit.
aubrey marcus
Dillashaw style.
Fifth round head kick KO. Well, listen, man.
joe rogan
He's putting a pace on Aldo in this fourth round.
And Aldo is coasting.
He's not doing anything.
And this is where Aldo has usually been in control of the fight.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
He caught him with that left!
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Right hand over the top!
What is he doing?
brendan schaub
He's complaining that their heads are cautious.
joe rogan
Oh, he can't complain.
That's a weakness.
He knows he's getting fucked up.
You can't complain over shit like that.
You know what's going on, man.
brendan schaub
I'd like to see Jay Hayes wrestling now, man.
ian mccall
Aldo's gonna get ghetto.
He just starts throwing fucking wild heat.
joe rogan
But you know what?
What he's throwing is not hitting.
He's getting him on the end of shit.
It's not having the same impact that Mendez has had in this round.
I mean, look at the faces.
Aldo is broken up, man.
Mendez is doing some fucking damage.
eddie bravo
Does that give you confidence when you see your opponent has blood?
Yes.
unidentified
It does.
eddie bravo
It gives you more cardio, too, right?
unidentified
We can kill it.
eddie bravo
What'd you say?
aubrey marcus
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
unidentified
This fight is so fucking good.
eddie bravo
What movie is that?
aubrey marcus
Predator.
brendan schaub
Predator, bro.
joe rogan
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
He just did a Schwarzenegger accent.
unidentified
Oh, they caught him at the right!
joe rogan
Aldo caught him at the right at the very end of the punch, though.
Look at Aldo's face is fucking bloody.
ian mccall
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Oh, he got poked.
He got poked, man.
Okay, he's just gonna go right back in.
aubrey marcus
He's got better cardio right now.
brendan schaub
Don't let him rest.
It's smart.
joe rogan
Stay on him.
aubrey marcus
Back to the leg kick.
eddie bravo
What if he gets leg kicked to death?
That would be hilarious.
joe rogan
That would be hilarious.
But I think it's too late for that.
I think you gotta do some real groundwork in those fucking first few rounds.
Or you just go out and Edson barboza him here.
Edson Barbosa, he might have one of the nastiest leg kicks in all the UFC right now.
brendan schaub
For sure.
ian mccall
Oh, by far.
joe rogan
Nasty.
He's one of the only guys who stopped two people by leg kicks.
unidentified
Nice!
joe rogan
He stopped Rafael Oliveira, and he stopped one of his earlier opponents.
unidentified
Oh!
Man!
joe rogan
Hard right hand by Mendez!
Goddamn!
eddie bravo
Don't forget about Marco Huaf.
UFC 7. Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
He was the one who showed everybody what's up.
Paul Varlan, son.
Chopped down the polar bear.
Remember that shit?
ian mccall
Oh yeah.
unidentified
17. Marco, who else was the king of the foot stomps too?
aubrey marcus
Paul Varlance hit me up on Facebook.
Weird message.
joe rogan
No shit.
brendan schaub
Weird message.
unidentified
I don't know.
eddie bravo
I was going to make a comeback.
joe rogan
You want sponsor?
aubrey marcus
I was like, Paul Varlance?
ian mccall
Really?
joe rogan
What's up, bro?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Weird message.
joe rogan
That was a hard check.
Hard check there.
ian mccall
He's setting up something, jabbing that chest.
eddie bravo
Trap fighting.
joe rogan
Damn.
I don't want to hear about that weird message from a 350 pound dude who lives in Alaska.
Oh, shit!
brendan schaub
Come on, Chad.
joe rogan
Yeah, Chad can lose this round just by shit like that.
ian mccall
He's so fucking athletic, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Aldo?
ian mccall
Aldo.
It's so violent and awesome.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
aubrey marcus
10 seconds.
Go.
joe rogan
Right hand over top.
I'm Chad.
They must be yelling at him to turn it up here.
I wonder if he can hear Wayne in this fucking crowd.
brendan schaub
I got a 2-2.
aubrey marcus
I think it's 3-1.
joe rogan
I think it's 2-2 as well.
brendan schaub
You think it's 3-1 Aldo?
aubrey marcus
Yeah, I do.
joe rogan
3-1 Aldo?
brendan schaub
I got 2-2.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that uppercut.
Shit, son.
So you think Aldo won this round?
How did Aldo win this round?
aubrey marcus
No, I think Chad won this one.
ian mccall
Chad won this one in the last one.
joe rogan
I think the last one was kind of close, but I think the last one...
aubrey marcus
Chad definitely won this one.
I think the last one, they're going to give it to Aldo because he rocked him.
ian mccall
Yeah, and you said the end of the round.
I think Aldo's going to win that round in Brazil.
joe rogan
But the end of the round was Mendez winning the round.
ian mccall
Yeah, I agree on that.
I mean, I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know either.
We're just drunk.
ian mccall
Yeah.
joe rogan
Talking shit.
That's so folks at homes that are fucking, like, you're like, oh, fucking, I can do commentary.
Guess what?
You could.
unidentified
We sound exactly like you when we're watching, folks.
You could.
joe rogan
This is fucking Ian McCall, one of the best flyaways on the planet Earth spinning through space.
And he does commentary just like you.
I don't fucking know.
ian mccall
What?
We're not that cool.
We're not that smart.
unidentified
There was a couple times we were like, you forget that this is on air.
eddie bravo
You know?
ian mccall
There's a couple times like, what do you think is that I'm not saying?
unidentified
I don't forget.
brendan schaub
I'm also sober, though.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Look at all those eyeballs, bro.
Holy shit.
aubrey marcus
There's a lot of limited visibility in there.
joe rogan
This is the fifth and final motherfucking round.
brendan schaub
I think who wins this round wins the fight.
joe rogan
This might be it.
brendan schaub
Although it's in Brazil, don't forget that.
joe rogan
We might be about to see some crazy shit, man.
We might see some crazy shit.
unidentified
Mendes.
ian mccall
You know Chad's going to bring it.
Aldo's got to turn his shit up.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Mendes with a left hand.
Switches up the side.
ian mccall
Oh!
joe rogan
Hard left hook!
Goddamn!
aubrey marcus
Woo!
We got any punch stats?
joe rogan
What a fight.
Fuck numbers, dude.
I don't want numbers.
unidentified
Oh, left hook.
joe rogan
Sneaky left hook.
ian mccall
That was right around the guard.
joe rogan
Yeah, he whips it, you know?
He whips it to the body as well.
Oh, they like each other, man.
They're having fun now.
There's a lot of respect now after this fucking crazy war.
I mean, these dudes know each other like nobody knows each other.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Take down!
unidentified
Take it down!
brendan schaub
That's the difference!
ian mccall
Take it down!
joe rogan
And he's fucking tired, too, man.
This is going to be hard as shit to get back up from here.
brendan schaub
When he does get back up, he's going to be exhausted.
Now you strike, son.
joe rogan
And Mendes is gorilla strong at 145. That dude is a beast.
brendan schaub
Look at the crowd booing.
joe rogan
If he wins, dude, this is the last Brazilian to hold a title.
Every fucking champion will be American if he wins.
unidentified
USA! USA! Don't be a terrorist!
joe rogan
Everyone chant USA! Corvette should just send them all cars.
ian mccall
Yeah!
joe rogan
Be American as fuck.
Drive around a Corvette, be a UFC champion.
ian mccall
I want that new Hellcat.
How do you like it?
brendan schaub
It's dope.
ian mccall
Love it.
joe rogan
Love it.
707 horsepower fucking Chrysler.
You drove it, right?
Yeah, I drove it when I was in Denver.
I drove it for the whole weekend.
unidentified
They gave it to me.
brendan schaub
Why don't you get one of those?
joe rogan
I might.
I might get one of those.
ian mccall
They're only like, what, 65?
joe rogan
I just want to get an American muscle car.
But I'm thinking about a 1969 Mustang.
ian mccall
Yes.
brendan schaub
Nothing's better than your Porsche.
That was my brother's first car.
joe rogan
No, nothing's going to be better than a drive.
It's not going to handle the same, but it'll be different.
Oh, shit!
Yeah, Aldo pushes him off.
ian mccall
That was my brother's first car, the 69 Mustang.
joe rogan
It's a great car.
ian mccall
So pretty.
joe rogan
The aesthetics, the way it looks is amazing.
eddie bravo
I think you're onto something with Corvette.
They take all the UFC champions if he wins, put them all together, put commercials together and shit.
joe rogan
American as fuck.
That's a commercial.
unidentified
Oh!
ian mccall
Left hand, right hand!
joe rogan
Look at that!
Oh, shit!
brendan schaub
Let's go.
joe rogan
Dude, Aldo connected here, man.
brendan schaub
This isn't good.
joe rogan
This is not good at all.
Let's see that jiu-jitsu.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
What about that?
What if he finished him here?
eddie bravo
I don't know if he could stick on his back.
joe rogan
To finish here, my friend.
Any time.
ian mccall
240. 240. And he's used to having Uriah crawling around on him.
joe rogan
That's true.
And up.
Up again.
brendan schaub
Get out, son.
joe rogan
That's the thing about those guys.
They all have fucking wicked guillotine defense.
aubrey marcus
And kick knockout.
joe rogan
Still in front of each other.
Stay in front of each other.
Anything can happen in this kind of fight.
That's why he just stepped back.
Stepped off.
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Step off again.
joe rogan
Keep moving.
Keep moving.
Light on the toes.
eddie bravo
He hasn't really thrown that many leg kicks.
joe rogan
You rest in an hour.
One hour.
This is over.
You did a lot of training.
Oh, vicious over the top and left to the body first.
Oh, shit!
Oh, my goodness!
Oh, I attacked him!
Oh, shit!
unidentified
His head snapped back like a fucking PEZ dispenser!
ian mccall
Jesus.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
Buckle up.
joe rogan
Oh, that's so sad.
Aldo with that left-right again.
Aldo being very conservative with the kicks, too, man.
Very conservative with the kicks.
Oh my god, who the fuck is going to win this fight?
This 90 seconds might be it.
unidentified
This is the fight, son.
joe rogan
Chad just looked up at the clock.
This might be it.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Left hand!
But he was moving away from that.
He was sliding to his left.
unidentified
Again with the knee.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
That foot was incidental.
Oh my god, there's no time.
He can't be taking any breaks here.
eddie bravo
They're going to give it to Aldo.
Fuck!
joe rogan
They might.
brendan schaub
They might.
joe rogan
This is a goddamn close round.
Anybody can win this round.
eddie bravo
If it ends right now, they give it to Aldo.
unidentified
I agree.
joe rogan
This is 50 seconds.
Anybody can win this round.
Anybody wins this round with one successful flurry.
eddie bravo
I said it would end right now.
brendan schaub
If you can get a takedown, a big hit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, but nothing stunning.
If Aldo stunned him here with something and had him wobbly, he would win the round.
He did stun him.
eddie bravo
He did.
It just happened.
joe rogan
But not like before.
You know what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
Not too much.
joe rogan
I mean, because he stunned Aldo, too.
He snapped his fucking head back with that jab.
And he's looking for that uppercut again.
brendan schaub
I love that combo.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
20 seconds, man.
20 seconds.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Oh, body kick!
brendan schaub
Come on.
unidentified
Go.
joe rogan
Cracking up 15, 15. Oh, check it!
brendan schaub
You're fucking crazy, you think the Brazilian judges are going to give us the...
joe rogan
Oh, right hand by Aldo!
unidentified
Go, go, go, go!
joe rogan
They exchanged right hands there.
Oh, Jesus Christ, they're swinging!
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Go!
- I do not know.
unidentified
- We're gonna give it to Alba.
- Woo! - What a fight, what a fight! - Alba stole that round.
eddie bravo
- Is there any more of these pro bar things out there?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a bunch in the back.
ian mccall
Those are fucking delicious.
joe rogan
They're really good.
They're really good.
unidentified
Goddamn.
aubrey marcus
That was a hell of a fight.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
What do we think here?
eddie bravo
Aldo.
joe rogan
Aldo?
unidentified
I think Aldo's going to win.
brendan schaub
Aldo for sure.
joe rogan
But who do you think won?
Everybody thinks Aldo won?
unidentified
Very, very close.
joe rogan
I think if I had to give anybody the last round, it'd probably be Aldo.
unidentified
Yeah.
You know what?
eddie bravo
I think Mendez won the last round.
joe rogan
When he snapped his head back, that was one of the most significant shots in the round.
eddie bravo
They're going to give it to Aldo.
It was close enough where they were like, you know what?
They're just going to give it to him.
joe rogan
I would like to see the numbers, you know, because we're watching it and having fun.
Left hook, that was early.
That was the first round.
brendan schaub
Look at the numbers, it's Aldo all day.
If you look at the numbers.
aubrey marcus
If you look at the damage, it's probably midgets.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true, right?
brendan schaub
If you do significant strikes, it's going to be Aldo all day.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that right hand.
Oh my goodness.
Oh my goodness.
unidentified
A few more seconds, that could have been a finisher, too.
joe rogan
That left hook to the body is so vicious.
eddie bravo
The replays, you know how powerful the replays are for the judges?
They're looking at the replays.
joe rogan
That looks like three rounds to Aldo right there.
brendan schaub
And also, the crowd sways judges, too.
joe rogan
This is Mendez.
unidentified
The replays, dude.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
eddie bravo
Maybe look at the replays and go, if that's what they're showing, that's what they saw.
joe rogan
Okay, but let's look at this.
I mean, that is a big goddamn round.
So that was round three.
So round three was definitely Mendez.
Right?
That was the one he really heard of.
That was the clearest round for Mendez.
Round four was like, who the fuck knows?
So round three was definitely Mendez.
Round four was who the fuck knows.
And round five, you know...
Round five is so close.
Who the fuck knows, man?
Who the fuck knows?
brendan schaub
Great fight, though.
joe rogan
So you guys think Aldo by decision?
Aldo by a slight decision.
Meanwhile, whoever won, what a fucking fight.
ian mccall
Yeah, Jesus Christ, that was amazing.
joe rogan
Amazing.
Wow, unbelievable.
What a fight.
You know how much shit Conor McGregor is going to talk after this fight?
brendan schaub
I don't think he wants some of this.
joe rogan
He got lit up by a midget.
Imagine what I'll do to you.
unidentified
Imagine what I'll do to you.
joe rogan
Aldo.
ian mccall
What does he say?
I'll knock his head clean off.
joe rogan
I'll knock his head clean off.
unidentified
All the way back to Dublin.
joe rogan
Winner by unanimous decision.
They're very happy in Brazil.
Very, very, very, very good fight.
unidentified
Great fight.
joe rogan
Fun, wild fight.
You know, that's everything you want in a fight.
Two elite fighters going at it, changing direction, changing the tide, back and forth.
Both guys get tested.
Both guys have to overcome.
Fucking amazing fight.
Powerful, big, handsome Brian Stan with a napkin coming out of his pocket.
They try to give me that shit.
I'm like, put that goddamn napkin away.
It's not going in my fucking pocket.
ian mccall
You have them wearing suits, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't wear the jacket, though.
I gave up on the jacket.
They used to make me wear the jacket.
They got me all these beautiful suits.
They had them custom made from my bridge troll body.
They fit great.
unidentified
You always have to wear long sleeve shirts?
joe rogan
No, I just do.
I don't want to be distracting.
So I don't want to show tattoos.
That's why I wear long sleeve mostly on stage too.
It's just distracting.
It's one more thing for people to think about.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
What's he saying?
He's all caught up, too.
Look at his left eye.
unidentified
Holy shit.
eddie bravo
He's gonna party with him after the lines after.
joe rogan
Good night.
I go no gi.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Well, hey folks, what a fucking fight.
What an awesome card.
So, powerful Phil Davis.
That was a big victory for Phil Davis.
ian mccall
Yeah, that was huge.
joe rogan
He looked like a monster.
ian mccall
Wow.
joe rogan
That was like the best Phil Davis of all time.
ian mccall
Especially after that last performance with Anthony Johnson.
joe rogan
Fucking amazing return.
eddie bravo
He didn't really throw any leg kicks, huh?
joe rogan
Aldo did not throw that many.
I mean, he got lit up with some of his own.
I mean, of Mendes.
It's right off the bat.
But this was a fucking test, man.
And he survived a really motivated, really well-trained Chad Mendes.
But what a fucking close fight.
What a great fight.
unidentified
Interesting division, man.
joe rogan
I don't even know how he can say he thinks he deserved to win.
You know, I mean, he won.
Why say I think I deserve to win?
You fucking won, man.
unidentified
Might be looking at his face.
joe rogan
I guess so.
I mean, it was a close fight, but everybody in this room thinks that he won, right?
unidentified
But isn't that kind of a common thing when someone walks away, way more damage than the other?
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
But you know, that damage can come from one exchange, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you see Chris Algieri, when he beat that Provodnikov guy?
He got lit up in the first round, closed his eye almost completely shut, and then outboxed him for the remainder of the fight.
He did a tremendous, tremendous job.
unidentified
And some people have more scar tissue.
Some people do take damage a lot worse than others from lighter strikes.
joe rogan
Jose Aldo.
That's a motherfucker right there.
That's the motherfucker.
What do you guys think in the pound for pound thing?
Like, he used to get tossed around as being impossible.
ian mccall
I think he is.
I always have.
joe rogan
Do you still think he is after this fight?
brendan schaub
Number one pound for pound?
unidentified
Yeah, I do.
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
No, that's what you think, Joe?
joe rogan
No.
No, I think it's probably Mighty Mouse.
I really do.
I mean, I think Mighty Mouse...
ian mccall
Gester's better than Mighty Mouse.
joe rogan
Yeah, McCall might be better than Mighty Mouse.
unidentified
I am.
joe rogan
If you beat him, I really think that you probably deserve pound for pound best.
I just think that if I look at technique for technique, okay, and I look at what he's been able to pull off in title fights, he's, like, flawless, you know, in title fights.
brendan schaub
I think there's other guys fighting tougher guys.
joe rogan
You might be right.
And that's the thing about, like, 205, and that's why Jones comes into...
brendan schaub
Look at John Jones, look at Kane, Blasquez.
joe rogan
John Jones is maybe it.
brendan schaub
Real quick, you put all those guys in a room, John Jones and Kane are going to twist everyone's heads off.
And don't even...
I hate when people put Ronda in there.
Pound for pound?
ian mccall
Oh, God.
brendan schaub
It's hard to do with a woman.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's hard to do with a woman.
I don't agree with that at all.
I think women's MMA, pound for pound, she's number one of all time.
And how about women?
Ever that walk the face of the planet, she's number one of all time.
unidentified
Number one.
brendan schaub
There shouldn't even be a list.
There should just be a list.
Pound for pound, Rhonda.
There should be anyone else.
joe rogan
There's probably some crazy Mongol bitch, though, from like 1220. That stinky pussy would get bitches and triangles.
Pound for pound mean males.
brendan schaub
Not males and females.
eddie bravo
If Ronda Rousey is the ultimate chick ever, and I agree, that puts her on that pound...
The pound for pound means...
Weight doesn't matter.
You know what I mean?
brendan schaub
You want to see pound for pound?
Put Ronda Rousey in there with Hennon Burrell.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's so crazy.
Do you have any idea what TJ would do to her?
It's silly, man.
eddie bravo
I didn't look at it like that.
brendan schaub
You're right.
Hennon Burrell would kick some bitches' heads.
joe rogan
Are you sure, though?
Are you sure Hennon Burrell would beat Ronda Rousey?
We're talking about pound for pound.
They're the same weight.
Do you know how crazy that fight would be?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
joe rogan
That would be a ruthless, wife-beating...
It would be cool.
brendan schaub
It would be so horrible.
If you go pound for pound, or you talk about the toughest man in the world, it's usually the heavyweight champ, or it's Jon Jones.
eddie bravo
I've rolled with Ronda a lot.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no.
Look, if they had to roll together, it's a different scenario.
But they don't.
They have to MMA fight.
And when you're talking about kickboxing, Hennenborough can do shit she can't do.
Hennenborough's a black belt, son.
Even if they roll, it's not going to go well.
It's not going to go...
But look, he's a man.
He's a strong man.
And he can fucking kick ridiculously hard.
He can punch ridiculously hard.
He can hit you with a standing knee.
Like a front kick, he can knee you in the face like that.
She might.
Or she might wake up with a flashlight in her face.
Maybe.
eddie bravo
We don't know.
unidentified
We don't know.
brendan schaub
It's stupid to include women pound for pound.
joe rogan
And she says that, by the way.
Rhonda says that, by the way.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
They asked her, and she's like, a woman fighting a man is ridiculous.
It's just stupid.
And it is stupid.
ian mccall
It's silly.
joe rogan
Goldie, no hanky.
Brian Stan, hanky.
Goldie wins.
eddie bravo
No, no.
brendan schaub
See, I give Brian Stan the win because Goldie has that three-piece suit on.
I hate the three-piece suit.
joe rogan
Which one has more makeup?
That's the real question.
eddie bravo
For sure, Goldie.
joe rogan
Oh, the three-piece suit?
brendan schaub
Goldie needs a nap and a drink of water.
ian mccall
And Stan has such pretty eyes.
joe rogan
Conor McGregor is next.
brendan schaub
He's playing Dennis Seaver, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, if he beats Dennis Seaver, and Dennis Seaver is no fucking pushover.
Dennis Seaver's got that sneaky front leg roundhouse kick.
brendan schaub
Good matchup for Connor.
aubrey marcus
What if Cub beats Frankie, though?
joe rogan
He's shorter.
Great matchup for Connor.
Look, if Cub beats Frankie by substantial margin, or Frankie beats Cub by substantial margin, whether by decision, submission, or knockout, they probably, in my opinion, are ahead on the ladder.
The problem is, Conor puts ass in seats.
That's why you saw his fucking picture, and he's hanging out with Dana White down there in Brazil.
And a lot of people are like, here we go, Swanson and Edgar.
This is, in my opinion, this is the real number one, number two title fight.
Contender fight.
But it doesn't mean that I don't think that McGregor's up there with them.
I think he definitely is.
But here we're looking at a guy like Cub Swanson that has a fucking litany of broken bodies in the UFC to his career.
I mean, look at what he did to Dennis Seaver.
Cub deserves it more.
If Conor beats Dennis Seaver, okay, that's great.
That's a good fight.
Look at what Cub did to Dennis Seaver.
Cub lit Dennis Seaver on fire.
brendan schaub
Cub's the most talented MMA fighter I know.
joe rogan
He's fantastic.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Frankie Edgar's a motherfucker and he never stops moving.
He cuts crazy angles.
He's got ridiculous wrestling.
He's got more heart than any fucking human being that's ever walked the face of the planet.
He recovers better from a beating than anyone I've ever seen in my life.
brendan schaub
It's not about that, though, is it?
joe rogan
It's not about that.
brendan schaub
Conor's entertaining, people want to see him fight, so they're going to give him the title shot.
joe rogan
But, how about this?
In New Jersey, Frankie Edgar versus Conor McGregor for the number one contender.
Holy shit!
That slammed You know what you do?
This is what you do, man.
You go to Jose Aldo and go, I heard you hurt your foot.
unidentified
Stop peeling off thousands.
joe rogan
Listen, my friend.
We're talking about an interim title.
We're not talking about the real title.
Keep peeling off cash.
Dana White should fucking...
Everybody throw your cell phone in the bucket and we'll go into this room.
Shut the door.
eddie bravo
Can you do Joey Diaz doing Conor McGregor?
joe rogan
Listen, cocksucker.
I'm the number one contender.
I put asses in seats.
unidentified
I'm the guy.
Nobody wants to see you with your fucking faggy SoCal tattoos.
joe rogan
Oh, I like palm trees.
Get the fuck out of here, dude.
unidentified
I'm from Dublin, motherfucking Ireland, okay?
joe rogan
You're from California.
unidentified
You're sitting in the fucking HOV lane in an electric car.
joe rogan
Cock sucker, I'm on a horse.
I'm on a horse.
unidentified
It's raining out all day, and I'm drunk.
joe rogan
I'm the number one contender, dog.
I'm going to fucking fill up a soccer stadium.
unidentified
That's what he would say.
joe rogan
But Joey would leave after he said that while you were laughing.
Fuck this shit!
And he'd just walk out the door.
We would be hanging around the comedy store.
He would say some shit like that and then just walk away on the punchline.
Just walk away!
unidentified
It was such a master showman.
joe rogan
Walk away on punchlines.
Well, this fucking podcast is over, folks.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jose Aldo's the shit.
Chad Mendes is a motherfucker.
That was a goddamn awesome fight.
unidentified
Phil Davis is a beast.
joe rogan
Phil Davis came back strong tonight.
brendan schaub
Neil Magny, five in a row, son.
joe rogan
Okay, what do you guys think about Hunt and Verdun?
What about that shit?
unidentified
Verdun.
aubrey marcus
Vadum looked deadly in that last round.
brendan schaub
Yeah, remember it's at elevation.
unidentified
So it's at 7,500 feet.
Is that Mexico City?
joe rogan
Yes.
The highest elevation in any UFC fight ever.
brendan schaub
If you remember, Mark Hunt fought in Denver and we fought Rothwell.
It might have been the worst heavyweight fight in history.
They won't come back to Denver and put heavyweights on the card it was so bad.
joe rogan
Right, but meanwhile they have a heavyweight title.
brendan schaub
So now you have a heavyweight title.
Oh, you have three weeks?
Oh, you weigh 305 pounds?
That's every division right now.
joe rogan
He's got to lose so much weight, too.
He's got to lose 30-something pounds.
brendan schaub
You're crazy.
ian mccall
I would love to see Hunt just fucking...
I like just seeing Hunt win.
But I also like Verdum.
joe rogan
Well, if Verdum wins, he speaks really good Spanish.
They reschedule it again.
He fights in Mexico against Kane.
I mean, god damn.
brendan schaub
Maybe if Kane comes back healthy.
joe rogan
Amazing.
eddie bravo
They're going to do Mexico again with Kane?
joe rogan
It's hard to gamble.
It depends on how well this card does.
This card does really well in Mexico.
It sells really well.
But now the problem is Kane's not the headliner anymore.
They even said, like Dana White said publicly, like, we can't go to Mexico without Kane.
brendan schaub
And Diego's hurt too.
Diego's out too.
joe rogan
So Diego's out.
ian mccall
Kane's out.
And the Mexican kid.
What's his name?
joe rogan
Eric Perez?
Yeah.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Is he out?
I don't know if he's out.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Is he out too?
ian mccall
I don't think he's out for sure.
I thought I heard that.
joe rogan
That's such a bummer, man.
All these guys getting injured.
brendan schaub
Heavyweight division, wide open!
Big Brown beats Travis Brown.
What's up?
joe rogan
This is what I wanted to ask you guys about.
You two guys especially.
What did you think about the...
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Soft.
What did you think about the Kung Lee thing?
That's a situation that was really weird.
He got popped, allegedly, for a high growth hormone, right?
And then they say that the test is ridiculous and there's a bunch of people who weighed in on it that are apparently experts in the protocol and the way everything was handled.
And then the UFC, for the first time ever, rescinded it.
aubrey marcus
If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.
brendan schaub
What is that?
It's tough not to look at that picture of Kung Lee and be like, oh wow, yeah, you're not on protein and, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Because he's in his 40s and he never looked like that before.
brendan schaub
If you've seen that picture, it's insane.
He looks like one of those gorillas they brought up there, one of those apes.
He looks jacked and shredded.
And he tests positive for HGH, but he also got his ass whooped.
joe rogan
But he didn't test positive for HGH. He tested positive for elevated human growth hormone levels, and they don't have a baseline for him.
That's the problem.
People have weird endogenous levels of all sorts of hormones.
There's a reason why some people are depressed.
Why are they depressed?
They have bad levels of serotonin.
Some people that have had head injuries have low levels of testosterone.
So he might just naturally have some weird thing where he has a lot of growth hormone.
brendan schaub
He just might naturally, when he hits 40, get super shredded, puts on 20 pounds of muscle, And that's how it goes.
joe rogan
Look, it's true.
Oh, look at the pictures of him.
brendan schaub
See, that's normal.
That's normal when you hit 40. We all look like that, man.
joe rogan
He does look retarded and ridiculous.
brendan schaub
He's for sure going to be in the next Expendables.
eddie bravo
But he's been an athlete his whole life.
He's done Kung Fu since he was three.
joe rogan
That doesn't look like a real ab.
If I had an ab like that, I would quit working out forever.
unidentified
I'll just take pictures of that shit and send it out.
joe rogan
Done.
I did it.
Made the best abs of all time.
Suck it.
I'm over.
That's the best abs maybe ever.
Right?
brendan schaub
I'm not mad at him.
joe rogan
He's a cutie pie 100. No bullshit.
Have there been better abs?
No.
There's been different abs.
brendan schaub
I agree.
That's a set of abs.
joe rogan
That might be the best abs an MMA fighter has ever exhibited.
And Lee, because he's such a kicker, kicking is all your core and your abs and your obliques and shit.
brendan schaub
It didn't really help him though, did it?
He looks great.
If it's the Olympia, yeah, man.
joe rogan
He hasn't fought in a couple of years, and he fought Bisping, who's a cardio machine.
Bisping has a 34...
Don't you have like a 38 beats per minute?
Look at that.
Big brown, a heavyweight with a 38 beats per minute resting heart rate.
brendan schaub
Same as Michael Phelps.
What, what, son?
unidentified
What, what?
Swim in the pool.
ian mccall
Just like a fucking swimmer.
eddie bravo
He smokes weed, though.
joe rogan
That's why his heart rate is so low.
ian mccall
Exactly.
joe rogan
He's just not even sure he's taking a test.
brendan schaub
I'm natural.
ian mccall
I hate to want to be, but I was 37 yesterday, two days ago.
brendan schaub
You are 100 pounds, my friend.
unidentified
I know.
ian mccall
He just carried me around all day.
brendan schaub
No, that's impressive, man.
eddie bravo
How much do you walk around that, seriously?
ian mccall
Not in fight shape, like 50. Oh, that's not that small.
joe rogan
So, 115 and you drop down to 125. How much of it is water?
How much of it is water weight?
ian mccall
10, 12 pounds.
joe rogan
That's a lot, though.
Your body weight per percentage, you got to think about it, as opposed to like a heavyweight 10 pounds ain't shit.
But when you get down to like 125, 10 pounds is quite a bit, right?
ian mccall
What I'll do is I'll do...
I got to Ireland at 18 over, I think.
But it was just like, it was the easiest cut I've ever had because my diet and all this stuff, I mean, I've got my diet super tuned in.
This company makes all my meals.
It's called the Gorgeous Mix.
My buddy makes all my meals.
It's 15 meals a week that are vegan.
And then I eat meat because I'm not vegan.
I was going to make a rude comment and say I'm not homosexual.
joe rogan
Did they use gluten?
I hear there's a lot of gay people that like hot dogs.
So I don't think that makes any sense.
Oh shit, I came with it.
ian mccall
I came with it.
unidentified
Do you eat gluten?
ian mccall
I try not to.
joe rogan
You try not to?
You try not to too, right?
brendan schaub
I did gluten-free for my last camp.
I gotta be honest, I didn't feel that much of a difference.
joe rogan
I gotta think, dude, a guy like you or either one of you guys is burning off so much goddamn glucose in a day.
You know, you're burning off so much sugar that I don't think it would hurt to have like a little pasta in your diet.
unidentified
I just don't.
joe rogan
I don't think we're talking about a regular person.
ian mccall
Yeah.
It's not that I think about it.
I get some pasta made.
brendan schaub
I had a bag of gummy bears before I hit Mr. I was like, fucking Anderson Silva.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
For reals, man.
In a bag of gummy bears.
Someone gave me a small bag of gummy bears.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I ate them right before training.
I don't know what it is.
joe rogan
Were they marijuana gummy bears?
Or were they gummy bears that were like candy gummy bears?
ian mccall
They might have been like A-Rap gummy bears.
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Oh, shit.
You know what that's called?
Those are gummy bears.
Before someone fucking screws me over.
They were Harvey old gummy bears that you get at Ralph's.
joe rogan
So just the sugar, you needed it.
brendan schaub
The sugar.
unidentified
You needed it.
brendan schaub
I don't eat sugar ever.
Literally ever.
joe rogan
It's not bad to have some simple sugar if you're working out the way you're working out because you're burning off so much fucking calories.
You got to think about just a grappling workout where your body feels like when it's over and they say the best thing to drink is chocolate milk because it has so many different things in it.
It has the casein, the milk protein.
Well, Aubrey would know better than anybody.
brendan schaub
Let me say the ratio is two to one, right?
aubrey marcus
Especially if you've got raw chocolate milk, then you have the enzymes in there to help break down the milk.
Because that's the problem that causes an inflammatory response because it's hard to break down when it's pasteurized.
If you had raw chocolate milk, that would be...
brendan schaub
So he's saying if I had a cow...
Suck the teeth.
Onnit's raw chocolate milk.
joe rogan
No, you can get raw milk from some health food stores, like Sprouts.
It has raw milk.
brendan schaub
Or it'll be a bitch and just take some Onnit protein.
joe rogan
No, dude, I'm telling you, raw milk, if you're like a non-milk drinking person, I have a totally different reaction between drinking regular milk and drinking raw milk.
Totally different reaction.
brendan schaub
I don't like any of that shit.
joe rogan
Raw milk just seems to have no, my body has no problem with it.
unidentified
I like rice digested.
brendan schaub
What about rice milk and hemp milk?
joe rogan
Red milk is not milk.
It's weird fucking water.
eddie bravo
But it's not bad for you.
joe rogan
It's milky-ass water.
aubrey marcus
It depends on if it's sweetened.
eddie bravo
But it's sweetened almond milk.
joe rogan
Oh, that's sweetened.
That's a lot of sugar, dude.
aubrey marcus
It's not bad.
joe rogan
Duncan Trussell called me up the other day.
He's like, Dude, I found the best thing!
Almond milk!
It's so healthy.
It's so good for you.
I go...
I go, does it taste really good?
He goes, yeah.
I go, that's sugar.
And he goes, really?
I go, look at the label.
And he goes, oh my god, 18 grams of sugar per serving?
I go, yeah, it's sweet.
You're drinking sugar water.
brendan schaub
Usually if it tastes good, it's not good.
eddie bravo
What about the unsweetened version?
joe rogan
Unsweetened tastes like asshole milk.
It tastes like they just rub your own.
aubrey marcus
It can get a little sour, but you can make your own.
It's really easy.
All it is is you just take raw almonds and you blend them up.
Same with making hemp milk.
You take raw hemp seeds and blend them up.
joe rogan
How about you just eat almonds and drink water and stop being a bitch?
aubrey marcus
The emulsification actually creates the milk.
joe rogan
Right, but is there a benefit in that emulsification?
brendan schaub
Is there better just to buy it?
aubrey marcus
No, but if you're making a smoothie or something and you need the liquid and you want to get that flavor.
brendan schaub
There's for sure a better way to spend your time than blending up almonds on your own.
joe rogan
Being one of those weirdos that soaks almonds and tries to get some of your own almond milk.
brendan schaub
None of my friends do that.
joe rogan
And there's no benefit.
No benefit.
Is this going to make you dick grow?
No.
Is it going to make you smarter?
No.
Is it going to help you recover faster?
No.
It's going to remind you how awesome milk is.
brendan schaub
Drink some coffee.
joe rogan
Make some Coco Pops with that shit.
ian mccall
Is raw milk good?
Like my daughter has rheumatoid arthritis.
Would it be good for them?
aubrey marcus
Yeah, I mean, raw milk or raw goat's milk would probably be even better.
joe rogan
Even pasteurized goat's milk is way easier for your body to digest than cow's milk.
unidentified
You want to limit the inflammatory response.
aubrey marcus
And the problem with anything pasteurized is it kills all the natural enzymes that help you digest it.
So it's going to cause a greater inflammatory response.
Raw will help you out with that.
joe rogan
What is it about goat's milk that makes it, even when pasteurized, more digestible?
Why goat's milk?
aubrey marcus
Yeah, something with the composition of the actual milk itself.
Human milk and goat's milk are more closely affiliated than bovine milk.
There needs to be a company that sells breast milk.
So it's just a little bit closer.
brendan schaub
I heard human milk has crazy amounts of level of growth hormone in it.
There's some bodybuilders like, yo dawg, can I get that breast milk?
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
You'd think that'd be huge!
eddie bravo
It's in the supermarkets.
unidentified
The ads.
brendan schaub
The human milk.
eddie bravo
This big ass double H's.
aubrey marcus
Colostrum is really great.
You mentioned that.
We're taking a hard look at that because that's the first milk that comes out and that's the most nutritious.
Every mammal produces colostrum.
joe rogan
How much do you lose, though, when it breaks down into a powdered form?
Because I know they sell powdered colostrum that you can pour into smoothies and shit, but what is that even, really?
aubrey marcus
It's like a freeze-drying process, usually.
Right.
I think you lose some, but you still get a lot of the nutrients in there.
joe rogan
You have to, right?
Even with greens or with anything.
Once you break it down to a powder, whatever benefit you get, it might be substantial, but it's definitely less than it would be for fresh.
aubrey marcus
Heat destroys nutrients more than that process, though.
So it's better than, you know, really over...
joe rogan
Pasteurization?
aubrey marcus
Yeah.
Oh, that's interesting.
joe rogan
So powdered is better than heated?
aubrey marcus
Generally, yeah.
For most things.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's weird, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Let's go eat.
aubrey marcus
Yeah, let's get some stuff.
joe rogan
Can you eat late, slight?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's pretty late.
joe rogan
A little baby.
All of a sudden.
unidentified
We want story time with Big Brown.
aubrey marcus
Story time with Big Brown is like my favorite thing.
Big Brown tells those stories on the podcast.
joe rogan
We're still on the air here, ladies and gentlemen.
Let's mind our P's and Q's.
The walls have ears.
brendan schaub
Big Brown would lose his job.
He tells those stories on the podcast.
unidentified
He might have the best podcast of all time.
joe rogan
That's the way you go out in a blaze of glory.
A goddamn Bon Jovi song.
unidentified
Go ahead.
joe rogan
Last thing, last question.
Bisping, Rockhold.
aubrey marcus
Who knows?
eddie bravo
Who knows?
joe rogan
You got a thought.
brendan schaub
You know, I trained with Bisping.
He's a beast, man.
He can go five rounds right now.
He's in shape all the time.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
All the time.
joe rogan
That's a big factor, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, but I think his eye is a big factor.
I think Rockhold's big.
I think Rockhold's a monster.
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
They've been talking a lot of shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's what they do, right?
That's what they do.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Bisping's used to it.
brendan schaub
Bisping told me this.
He goes, man, I just want to fight more, so I talk shit to guys.
Give him a response so I can get fights.
He's a genius.
joe rogan
Yeah, it works.
brendan schaub
All of us want to fight more, so you just talk some shit.
Joe Silver goes, oh yeah, that's cool.
There's that matchup.
There you go.
aubrey marcus
When are you talking shit to Iron Sheik, make that shit happen.
unidentified
Well, after everyone's talking about these stories and shit, I'm good.
joe rogan
He can't even walk.
He's a poor guy.
His hips are shot.
His knees are shot.
He's fun, though.
Alright, fucking podcast is over.
Master Eddie Bravo, give us your information.
People want to get a hold of you.
eddie bravo
10thplanetjj.com.
joe rogan
Kareem Abdul-Jakamal.
unidentified
Yeah, Newport Tattoo, Newport Beach.
joe rogan
Give me your full name.
unidentified
Kareem Maserani.
Hit me up on Instagram, Kareem Tattoo.
joe rogan
Holla.
ian mccall
Uncle Creepy MMA. Uncle Creepy MMA.com.
Uncle Creepy on everything MMA. And when's your next fight?
joe rogan
How's your hand doing?
ian mccall
It's all better now, right?
unidentified
Oh, it looks good!
joe rogan
Is that where it goes?
ian mccall
The thing is, I can actually make some sort of a fist now.
As opposed to before, I used to poke straight out.
When I hit people with it, it's fucking awesome.
eddie bravo
Is it ever going to straighten out?
ian mccall
No.
brendan schaub
Are you purposely making a kryptonite?
ian mccall
Yes, I am.
joe rogan
That's what he does.
unidentified
I think when he starts punching, a wolverine claw starts to come out.
Damn, that's intense.
eddie bravo
Can you get it fixed?
joe rogan
How many operations did he have on that?
unidentified
This is fixed.
ian mccall
That's fixed?
I've had three operations and one infection, two breaks.
And this break was gnarly shattered.
eddie bravo
Damn, you might need one more.
joe rogan
I'm glad your girlfriend's here.
I'd ask you rude questions about your fingers.
What you do with them.
You can do the math, ladies and gentlemen.
Big Brown versus Travis Brown.
brendan schaub
December 6th, UFC 181. Fighting the Kid Podcasts.
joe rogan
Glorious.
brendan schaub
What do I got for you?
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
Friday the Kid Podcast, at Brendan Schaub.
Aubrey Marcus, Warrior Poet US on Twitter.
The On It Podcast, of course.
The Warrior Poet Project.
Is that what you call it?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Warrior Poet Project.
aubrey marcus
Check out my Watch Human documentary.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Amazing documentary about psychedelic experiences in the Amazon.
I play those fucking Ikaroji gave me.
I play them in my car when I'm in traffic.
That brings me to a special place.
That's awesome, man.
And Miss Two Jits, right?
Miss Two Jits on Twitter.
Alright, folks.
Fucking thing's over.
Go do something with your time.
Productive.
Because if you're still listening to me at this point, get a life.
Okay?
Good night.
unidentified
See ya.
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