Aug. 13, 2014 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Hello, sweet bitches of the internet. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We're back. | ||
| This episode is brought to you by MeUndies. | ||
| This is a disturbing thing that has been discovered due to an internet survey. | ||
| It said most men don't change their underwear but once every seven years. | ||
| That shit's fucked up. | ||
| It's more than that for me. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| That's your dick hammock, son. | ||
| You need to keep that shit clean. | ||
| You don't have a pair of underwear that you know for sure that you've had for a long-ass time. | ||
| I try to get rid of them. | ||
| But I'm going to be honest with you. | ||
| I never bought nice underwear before. | ||
| I just would buy underwear. | ||
| Like whatever. | ||
| Like a big packet of them. | ||
| As long as they kept my dick in place. | ||
| I get very upset if the dick hole opens up and I got to keep tucking the hamster back into the cage. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| So, until these MeUndies guys sent me underwear, these are the best underwear I've ever worn, without a doubt. | ||
| And I was thinking about it when I put them on. | ||
| I was like, why wouldn't I want, like, comfortable underwear on my balls and my dick? | ||
| Like, I would, right? | ||
| So, why haven't I not, like, spent money on, like, some nice underwear? | ||
| I've never spent money on nice underwear. | ||
| I just bought... | ||
| Fucking whatever. | ||
| So then these MeUndies guys, they sent me it. | ||
| And at first I was like a little bit skeptical. | ||
| I was like, it's fucking underwear, man. | ||
| Who gives a shit about underwear? | ||
| You go to get underwear at a store. | ||
| But they have like really high quality shit. | ||
| Like it feels good. | ||
| It's like they have moisture. | ||
| Like it pulls moisture away from your body. | ||
| Their underwear is like super high-end stuff. | ||
| You know, my dick is being strangled right now and I think a ball is hanging out. | ||
| And I've always just accepted like, oh, that's just sitting. | ||
| That's just your choices. | ||
| You've got ropes around your dick. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| No, my underwear's way too tight. | ||
| Like, this underwear that I'm wearing, I know I've had for a long time, and it's super, super tight. | ||
| Do you have the same underwear from back when you lost a ton of weight? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I have underwear that I know I've had for a long time. | ||
| Because it's kind of like, if it still works, why would you throw it away? | ||
| It's like a towel. | ||
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Well, MeUndies is your solution, son, okay? | |
| And they will pull some moisture away from your dick and give you some shit that fits. | ||
| The most comfortable underwear you have ever tried on. | ||
| They fit perfectly. | ||
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They don't strangle your dick. | |
| And they literally do pull moisture away from your skin. | ||
| So that will help you, like, with people that have, like... | ||
| Yeastier things going on. | ||
| Well, you should probably clean yourself, you fucking dirty pig. | ||
| But, once you do do that, yeah. | ||
| I mean, guys with diabetes have yeasty dicks, you know? | ||
| Do they really? | ||
| How do you know? | ||
| How many guys with diabetes are you blowing? | ||
| Dude, when I got that male yeast infection, I studied it for a long time. | ||
| I'm sure you did. | ||
| I'm sure it wasn't just a cursory use. | ||
| Glamps on Google and then back to business. | ||
| Where do they pull the moisture to? | ||
| They take it to Canada. | ||
| There's not a lot going on down there. | ||
| We steal a lot from Canada. | ||
| That's what we give back. | ||
| Ball sweat. | ||
| Is there gutters to this? | ||
| Or does your pants just become wet? | ||
| It becomes like a parachute for ball sweat. | ||
| It just captures it all. | ||
| Anyway, MeUndies.com. | ||
| Go there. | ||
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| I'm wearing them right now. | ||
| They're very, very, very comfortable. | ||
| And, you know, change your fucking underwear more than once every seven years, you pigs. | ||
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| All right, fucks. | ||
| Enjoy. | ||
| MeUndies.com. | ||
| We're also brought to you by Ting. | ||
| Ting is the official cell phone provider for this podcast. | ||
| The phone that we use for this podcast is run on Ting. | ||
| Ting is, they use the Sprint Backbone and they use it with their own rules. | ||
| Their own rules like that they decide. | ||
| They decided, okay, let's have no contracts. | ||
| Let's have no early terminations fees. | ||
| Let's not even charge people like a set amount per month. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| They did it two different ways. | ||
| At one point in time, they would like credit you. | ||
| They would knock you down to the lower level. | ||
| Say if you didn't use all your minutes, they would knock you down to a lower level and credit you the distance, the difference on your next bill. | ||
| Then they decided that's too fucking complicated. | ||
| You know what it really should be? | ||
| It should be people just pay for what they use. | ||
| That's their newest thing, which I think is perfect. | ||
| I think that's where all cell phone providers will eventually find themselves. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| You pay for 120 minutes where you only use 100. | ||
| Where's those 20 minutes? | ||
| They're gone. | ||
| They're evaporated. | ||
| But with Ting, 98% of people who use Ting would save money. | ||
| And again, they use the Sprint backbone. | ||
| They rent time on Sprint, so it's a major network. | ||
| And they do it in like a very ethical way, in a way that just makes you feel good about working with the company. | ||
| I think that's how it should be, like contracts and termination fees and all this legal bullshit. | ||
| With Ting, you buy a phone, you buy a phone, you have it, it's yours. | ||
| And then if you want to cancel them, you tell them, go fuck yourself, and you just cancel. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| And you're in. | ||
| You're out. | ||
| You do whatever you want to do. | ||
| That's how it should be. | ||
| You know, this idea about being able to control people with contracts, it's fucking gross. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| I don't like it, Brian. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| It's so cheap, though. | ||
| And they have family plans now where you can add somebody for really cheap. | ||
| So if you have a girlfriend, you can throw her on your plan. | ||
| Check it out. | ||
| You can just go to plans, go to Ting, look at the different plans. | ||
| Yeah, rogan.ting.com. | ||
| If you go there, you can see all the different cell phones they sell as well, like Brian was showing them on the screen earlier. | ||
| Some serious high-end Android phones. | ||
| The one I got is the Samsung Galaxy S5. I just got it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| You know what else I love about it? | ||
| It's water-resistant. | ||
| The bottom of it, it plugs in, and you can throw it in the toilet. | ||
| If you wanted to, it would be okay. | ||
| You can use it as toilet paper and throw it in the toilet. | ||
| I don't think you're allowed to do that. | ||
| You can't wipe your ass on it, because then you'll get like... | ||
| But if you just dropped it. | ||
| Have you ever dropped your phone in the toilet? | ||
| I've dropped my phone in the toilet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We all have. | ||
| While on poop. | ||
| And I had to grab it on poop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've dropped it while brushing my teeth in the sink. | ||
| I've got water all over it. | ||
| I've fucked phones up before dropping them. | ||
| But with these Galaxy S5s, you don't have to worry about that. | ||
| Actually, the bottom closes up. | ||
| It's got a little tab that closes in on the bottom. | ||
| And the top, apparently, you can go underwater with these fucking things. | ||
| A lot of people think I was stupid when I said that story about having to suck the water out of my phone. | ||
| Because a lot of people throw it in rice, and I'm always like, get the water out of there first. | ||
| But a lot of people said that was the dumbest thing they ever heard. | ||
| And so I went online to all this Howard Forums, and I researched it. | ||
| No, that totally makes sense. | ||
| Get the water out of there. | ||
| Maybe use a vacuum cleaner if you have one. | ||
| Probably wouldn't be as good as your mouth, because your mouth would seal it. | ||
| And you could get a good amount of... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can get a good amount of suction with that. | ||
| Yeah, and just fucking be a man about it and brush your teeth afterwards. | ||
| Just suck your phone. | ||
| This guy's invented this pack that you put a phone in if it's got wet, and you put it in more liquid, which sounds crazy, but it counteracts what the water's doing. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's absolutely bizarre. | ||
| Apparently, it would have been huge because their plan was to put it in airports, but because it's a bag of liquid, it didn't go. | ||
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Oh, right. | |
| Because that's the perfect thing to have at airports. | ||
| But yeah, you put it in and it's... | ||
| So yeah, I don't know. | ||
| It counters what the water does somehow. | ||
| So it's not just the fact it's liquid. | ||
| It's something in it that erodes everything away. | ||
| That's fascinating. | ||
| I wonder what it is. | ||
| I remember they were doing those things where they were dipping phones. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| You'd send off a phone to a company. | ||
| Do they still do that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They even sell it now at just like Lowe's. | ||
| You can buy the same chemical now. | ||
| Really? | ||
| You could dip your own phone? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think we shared the commercial on this podcast. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Yeah, we did. | ||
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Did we? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I wasn't paying attention. | ||
| I was trying to avoid you. | ||
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Hey! | |
| No, I don't remember that at all, man. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| Yeah, they sell it now at Lowe's. | ||
| Maybe you did it on one of yours podcasts. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I remember it because we talked about it and we showed a commercial about it. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| There's been too many goddamn podcasts. | ||
| So how hard is it to do? | ||
| Is it easy? | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty easy. | ||
| Why doesn't everybody do that then? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You can like dip your clothes in it. | ||
| Like if you work outside a lot, your shoes, your shoes. | ||
| Do you throw the whole phone in this bullshit? | ||
| Because what about the screen? | ||
| Does it fuck with the screen? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Here, I'll show you. | ||
| No, let's just get through this commercial. | ||
| People are mad. | ||
| I get so many tweets about how long these commercials are. | ||
| Tough shit. | ||
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You know how to use the fast forward, bitch. | |
| Use it. | ||
| Anyway, go to rogan.ting.com and save $25 off of any of their awesome new phones. | ||
| Rogan.ting.com. | ||
| Enjoy it! | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| This episode of the podcast, the commercials are now officially over. | ||
| Scroobius Pip is here. | ||
| Let's just get cracking with this thing, shall we? | ||
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The Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out! | |
| The Joe Rogan Experience. | ||
| What's happening, fella? | ||
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I'm good, man. | |
| How you doing? | ||
| It's been cool to talk to you from the moment you got here 25-plus minutes ago. | ||
| Been hanging out. | ||
| We did a lot of talking with Jack Black, who's a very cool dude. | ||
| Pretend there's some crazy stories of Russia, but yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he's tired. | ||
| Robin Black was telling us some awesome stories of these Russian dudes that he partied with, these sumo wrestlers. | ||
| It was insane. | ||
| What he was saying was so ridiculous, the stories of excess and drinking. | ||
| Waking up covered in urine, and we videotaped it, so Jamie will put that shit up later. | ||
| But it was really funny. | ||
| He was a cool dude, man. | ||
| I really like Robin. | ||
| Yeah, good guy. | ||
| Yeah, interesting guy. | ||
| From another country he is. | ||
| As are you, sir. | ||
| Yes, indeed I am. | ||
| Yeah, all the way from England. | ||
| I saw your shit on my message board. | ||
| It was the first time I saw your shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Some people put up one of the videos was of you... | ||
| You're cutting your hair on your beard. | ||
| Intradiction. | ||
| Intradiction. | ||
| That's a great fucking rap, dude. | ||
| That's really fun. | ||
| I spent £100 on that video. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| That was my complete budget. | ||
| Can we play that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Let's go ahead. | ||
| Let's play that and talk about it. | ||
| Brian, pull it up. | ||
| It's Intradiction. | ||
| You gotta tell him how to spell it. | ||
| I can't spell it. | ||
| It's my fault as well for picking a name that's ridiculously hard to spell and pronounce. | ||
| Yeah, it's Scroobius Pips, a tough one for Twitter. | ||
| It's not easy. | ||
| It's not easy to fit in. | ||
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Some people, do they try O-U? Yeah, yeah, they try O-U-S, yeah. | |
| Hmm, screws. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They get it in the end. | ||
| Eventually. | ||
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Here we go. | |
| I saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought, what did you expect? | ||
| There's no water round here, stupid. | ||
| Should've stayed where it was wet. | ||
| You gotta see this. | ||
| Hello my name is Pip and I would like to speak some lyrics Into this microphone that's amplified so you can hear it This piece of diction is the intro to distraction pieces That's all the shit that flies around my head and keeps me sleepless Such little food for full my fucking brain feels anorexic So many typos when I write, oh I'll claim I'm dyslexic I've got your poem here, I've put it in this envelope I'm setting fire to it, hope you all can read the smoke Most people where I live don't know me and I fucking like it. | ||
| Some people where I live don't like me and I fucking know it. | ||
| Some heads won't know my name or give me a look since I flow kinda strange like Spina Bifida footprints. | ||
| I said "Cum strange" But I find a place that's obsessed with me Shhhhhh Nothing's original, I stole this flow from the creator And from some others too, can't think right now I'll name 'em later If I say "Fuck a lot" well then I'll gain more attention If I say "Cunt" well then with some of you there will be tension I find this interesting 'cause in the end they are just words You give them power when you cower, man | ||
| man, it's so absurd But all that was covered by Lily Bruce back in the day Nothing's original, now I'm repeating what I say Paralysis through analysis could stop me here I'll brandish the blindest man's anguish with a ram fist Directed at the throat of any man that can withstand I'll brandish the blindest man's anguish with a ram fist I | ||
| see these rappers that say things like no homo and such It always seems maybe the lady duff protests too much I'm really speechless but I speak less than you might imagine Sometimes I snutter and I sputter like I'm known to write about the shit most people won't discuss. | ||
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Sometimes my music's too intrusive with their words and such. | |
| You see a mousetrap, I see free cheese and a fucking challenge. | ||
| But you stay quiet, the fear of ticking the balance. | ||
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When it's horses for courses, my horse is distorted. | |
| I bought it for four quid, then forced it through horseshit. | ||
| We walk through these morbid, remorseless discourses And discuss these disgusting new sources When it's roasted from orbit, my horse is distorted That's badass, that is great That's really fun, man. | ||
| That's really fun. | ||
| I really enjoyed that. | ||
| I thought the lyrics were cool. | ||
| I like how you did it. | ||
| It was interesting. | ||
| It's crazy because we We filmed that in just a metal container, and the guy, we'd rented it off, we didn't tell him what the fuck we were doing, because I figured we can only do it in one take, because I've got to shave my head and shit, so I thought, if we ask him, he can say no. | ||
| If we do it, he can just tell us off afterwards, and that's that. | ||
| So as it finished, obviously, there's tons of fire, we're setting shit on fire, and we had to have the doors closed because of lighting. | ||
| So we're in a metal container, just burning everything, and then I piled out with smoke bellowing, and the guy just walked past and just went... | ||
| Pip, I don't even want to know. | ||
| And walked on, I was like, good man, good man, you've saved the day. | ||
| What a great scene. | ||
| You're coming out of a video shoot and it's on fire. | ||
| Hair hanging off of me, fire, smoke. | ||
| Your head's shaved. | ||
| Your head's shaved and the fucking door opens to a storage container and there's smoke bellowing out. | ||
| What a great scene. | ||
| That's rock and roll, man. | ||
| That's some real shit. | ||
| It's the beauty of... | ||
| Directing all your own videos is you don't have to do health and safety shit. | ||
| You don't have to tick that off. | ||
| There's no one to say you can't do that. | ||
| It's like, yeah, we can fucking do that. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| How did you get started rapping, man? | ||
| Well, do you consider that rap? | ||
| Yeah, kind of. | ||
| I mean, I started off in spoken word, so I started off just kind of with no beats, but I was into hip-hop, and again, a lot of people hear spoken word and think that sounds... | ||
| Shit, basically, in poetry and that, but I was exactly the same. | ||
| Well, spoken word has potential, right? | ||
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Completely. | |
| I mean, what do people like? | ||
| I mean, people love. | ||
| I have a dream! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have a dream is goddamn spoken word. | ||
| I mean, Martin Luther King's I Have a Dream speech is... | ||
| It's why I always refer to it as spoken word rather than poetry or anything else, because that's the most literal. | ||
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Right. | |
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| A really... | ||
| An intricate stand-up set that's like one piece that's a whole story, that's spoken word. | ||
| Does the word poetry, does poet, does that have a bad connotation, like a pretentious connotation? | ||
| It puts people off and people kind of think you're a dick. | ||
| Yeah, you're a dick, right? | ||
| I remember I was at the Comedy Cellar in New York and David Tell's on stage and he's killing. | ||
| And there's this snotty fuck in the audience and for some reason the guy took offense to one of Dave's jokes and says something. | ||
| And Dave's like, well, I'm sorry, sir. | ||
| I'm just up here trying to do some jokes. | ||
| What do you do for a living, sir? | ||
| And the guy goes, I'm a poet. | ||
| Published. | ||
| And I'll never forget that! | ||
| And for a year, I was saying that to people. | ||
| I'm a poet. | ||
| Published. | ||
| For ages, we're trying to get insurance and shit like that. | ||
| I'd try and explain what I do and then just go with unemployed or self-employed. | ||
| I put poetry on my thing. | ||
| I'll never forget that, asshole. | ||
| I'm a poet. | ||
| Published. | ||
| And he had, like, fashionable clothes on and shit. | ||
| You know, he's just... | ||
| He totally lives at home still with his mom. | ||
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100%. | |
| I bet Dave Attell doesn't even remember it, but I remember it. | ||
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It wasn't even me that got heckled. | |
| Fuckheads. | ||
| But yes, obviously I'm not in love with poetry. | ||
| I started doing it because I was in some punk bands and shit like that, and I got sick of relying on drummers, their mum giving them a lift to practice, and the bassist can't make it because he's working a night shift and shit like that. | ||
| So I was looking at what I could do and succeed or fail on my own. | ||
| I loved the buzz of the fact that if it went well, it's my fault. | ||
| If I fail, I can't say, oh, it's this other guy's fault. | ||
| That's a real problem with bands, huh? | ||
| Eddie Bravo was trying to explain to me like the trials and tribulations that the average band goes through and I was thinking about it when we had the conversation like I never even thought about that before but dealing with all those egos together and and then also some people that are just undisciplined yeah completely some people aren't as passionate about it as you are or it's just a fun thing for them and equally accepting gigs and shit like that you have to ring through like four or five other people to say can we accept this gig it's like Yeah. | ||
| It's awful to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's kind of why I started doing spoken word. | ||
| Yeah, so I could do it all off my own back. | ||
| It was just the hate of being in bands, really. | ||
| You know what I like about what you did, too? | ||
| For whatever reason, there's a lot of guys who speak a certain way, and then when they perform rap, it sounds like an urban black guy. | ||
| Yeah, completely. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| It's like, what happened that you had to start doing it like this? | ||
| Because that's not how you would talk in real life, miss. | ||
| I would... | ||
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I was raised in the hood, but I'm strong from my... | |
| It blows my mind that the most common thing that people say to me after shows and that is like, oh, you sound exactly like you do on record. | ||
| It's because this is my voice. | ||
| This is me talking. | ||
| Yeah, there was an article recently about why people with British accents sing in an American accent. | ||
| I don't remember what the fucking conclusion was. | ||
| I barely paid attention. | ||
| I looked at it. | ||
| I'm like, who cares? | ||
| They just choose to. | ||
| But there's a difference between an English guy choosing to sound American and an American guy choosing to sound British. | ||
| Because if an English guy comes over to America and loses his British accent, nobody's going to give him a hard time about it. | ||
| But if an American guy takes on a British accent, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Madonna can live in London until her tits fall off. | ||
| You're not British. | ||
| Cut it out. | ||
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You cut it out. | |
| You cut it out, Madonna. | ||
| Don't give a fuck if you bought a house there. | ||
| That rich bitch, she bought a house there just so she could talk in an English accent. | ||
| I just want to be one of the lords. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I am Madonna. | ||
| I am a dancer slash singer slash superstar. | ||
| Was Madonna knighted? | ||
| She should be. | ||
| And fucking, what's his name, Elton John. | ||
| I was listening to Country Comfort on the way over here. | ||
| Just randomly, sometimes like my iPhone syncs up with my car and just play, you know how it does it sometimes? | ||
| We'll just play a random song. | ||
| And it just started playing, it's on one of my playlists, but that Elton John song, Country Comfort, that motherfucker could sing his ass off. | ||
| God damn, Elton John's good. | ||
| There's so much emotion and power in his songs. | ||
| It takes you right to what he's singing. | ||
| It's about grandma needing help to fix her barn. | ||
| And you're seeing the whole thing play out. | ||
| You're seeing fields of wheat and butterflies and an old lady. | ||
| Elton John's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| But does he sound like Elton John when he sings? | ||
| Not really, right? | ||
| It's not really an American accent, though, is it? | ||
| It's kind of hard to say. | ||
| It's hard to say because when you're singing, you're extending these words. | ||
| I mean, he sang farm and it's taken him like 10 seconds. | ||
| She needs some help to run the farm. | ||
| Nobody talks like that. | ||
| I've got a starter, so I do kind of talk like that. | ||
| This might end up being a really long podcast. | ||
| They're normally three hours. | ||
| This will be like six hours, seven hours. | ||
| Lock yourselves in. | ||
| Yeah, singing's a weird thing, man. | ||
| Singing's a beautiful thing. | ||
| But spoken word to music is a very different thing. | ||
| Spoken word to music, it's very lyrically dependent. | ||
| That's the word for it. | ||
| That was what I really enjoyed about your stuff, is it was very clever. | ||
| I could see that you put a lot of thought into your lyrics. | ||
| And I love the thing about Lenny Bruce. | ||
| You covered it in a really cool way. | ||
| And then you could also tell it was one take. | ||
| Yeah, it's trying to... | ||
| Whenever I'm writing, the main goal is to make it interesting to me, kind of thing. | ||
| And that's what I think confuses me about a lot of hip-hop, when it is all just talking about the same thing. | ||
| It's like, I'd get bored performing that, or doing that over and over again, so it's kind of... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That exists, I think, in every art form. | ||
| I bet it exists in rock and roll. | ||
| I know it exists in comedy. | ||
| There's certain subjects that guys will cover when you can tell they're covering it because they think that the audience wants to hear that, and it's not what's actually interesting to them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can't imagine getting excited finishing a line or finishing a piece that's just exactly that kind of, oh, I think people will... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Enjoy that. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of people that do do that, though. | ||
| It's weird, like, those hitmaker guys who, like, sit down, they write these songs that they know specifically will hit, like, a target nerve. | ||
| See, I understand that, because they're writing that for someone else to have to perform and sell their sold every night to kind of sing and get through. | ||
| I can understand that, because they're just going, I'm going to write this and make a fuck ton of money and then hand this over to some other guy to jump up there and... | ||
| Wasn't there a band where the lead singer was one of those guys that would write songs for a lot of... | ||
| Like Train didn't... | ||
| Isn't that what I'm thinking of? | ||
| No. | ||
| But what was that... | ||
| What the fuck was Train? | ||
| There was this one band... | ||
| Fuck, I'm not going to remember. | ||
| I'm not going to remember. | ||
| But I remember this guy... | ||
| They were going to be as big as the one he writes the songs for. | ||
| Well, he made one that he released himself. | ||
| It was pretty recently. | ||
| It was a big hit. | ||
| But it was one of those songs where I couldn't get into it because it was well done, but I could tell that it was a calculated thing. | ||
| It's ticking all the boxes. | ||
| It's got a formula that makes it work. | ||
| Yeah, as opposed to there's certain songs where you don't even know why you like it. | ||
| There's this... | ||
| There's this old Leonard Skinner song, The Battle of Curtis Lowe, and it's one of those songs, the ballad of Curtis Lowe, and it's one of those songs where you hear it, you don't even know what is going on that this song is just... | ||
| Captivating me in such a unique way, like making me emotional, like making me feel that moment. | ||
| And you can tell when they feel like they've been written like that. | ||
| Like one of the things I liked about when that song, Intradiction, kind of blew up was No one kind of noticed for ages that it's not got a chorus. | ||
| It's not got a hook. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not got anything. | ||
| But people didn't notice that because they were kind of captivated and into it and didn't think about, all right, you're meant to kind of go verse, chorus, verse, bridge, you know, this kind of shit. | ||
| So it's kind of nice when that works and you can tell it's just... | ||
| Just what came out and what was natural. | ||
| But you pieced that together, right? | ||
| That's a piece. | ||
| You started working on that, you developed it. | ||
| When you do something like that and you develop a piece, do you write it all out? | ||
| How long is that whole song? | ||
| It's about three and a half minutes or so? | ||
| Three and a half minutes, yeah. | ||
| And do you develop it at three and a half minutes? | ||
| Do you add to it along the way? | ||
| Is it completely written before you ever get to the stage? | ||
| Yeah, it's all completely written before I get to the stage. | ||
| The stage, a lot of that song in particular, I mean, I'm noting stuff on my phone all the time and just, yeah, I'm making note of just good lines or good ideas or topics or subjects. | ||
| Like maybe you have like a new line that just pops in your head and you want to add it to it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, in my notes always, I'm going to have something awful in there now. | ||
| But it'll just be notes, even if it's just, even if it isn't a line or a turn of phrase. | ||
| My last note was saying about how loads of rappers at the moment are going on about going beast mode. | ||
| And beast mode being a thing. | ||
| I've just written one saying, do one about going Depeche mode. | ||
| That's literally, there's no lyric there. | ||
| I've not structured that yet. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's just, right, I'll do something with that. | ||
| So then on a song like that, because a lot of my songs are stories as well, though. | ||
| But one like that, it's easy to go through all these kind of weird little ideas or phrases or even like bits of philosophy and shit like that just to go, right, I'll put that in there. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| That's the coolest thing about creating your own stuff, right, is that you could just decide. | ||
| What goes in, you could decide. | ||
| And it's just, I mean, the thing that I buzz about it the most is that you don't know what's good until you put it out there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I genuinely, on that one, there's a line, you see a mousetrap, I see free cheese and a fucking challenge. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It was just one of loads of lines, and then when that came out, it's the one that everyone was going crazy on, and everyone was tweeting. | ||
| I had no idea that that was the standout, because you're so in it that you've got so much you're putting together. | ||
| That was one of many standouts. | ||
| There's a lot of great lyrics in that, but yeah, that's definitely a standout part of it. | ||
| That's really cool, man. | ||
| I love anything like that where it's like one guy piecing something together, whether it's music or whether it's a book, like talking to an author about creating a book, or whether it's a stand-up comedian creating an act or a guy writing a movie or anything. | ||
| There's something about that creative process. | ||
| And there's so much more now where that's so much more acceptable and doable because of the internet and because of Being able to get whatever your one passion is out there that you can kind of just be it doesn't have to be a team of right as a team of people doing this and that you can find a lot more people have got that just One vision. | ||
| Yeah, and then just yeah see what it turns into. | ||
| Yeah Yeah, and when you like have this one thing that comes out of your own mind and You put it together and you it's like We were talking about this with comedy. | ||
| When somebody becomes a Pip fan, you're the only one that can give them that stuff. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| They're looking to see what comes out of your head. | ||
| It's crazy as well, though. | ||
| Again, I'm sure it's the same with stand-up. | ||
| It's that weird thing of... | ||
| All of it, as much as you put into it, it's just what you think at the time. | ||
| But then it's committed to record, and that's that. | ||
| So five years down the line, my opinions or views, or I'd hope my opinions and views would change in general. | ||
| Not on everything, but I think it's important to develop ideas and philosophies constantly. | ||
| So it's then that weird thing that people will have got that first record and have listened to that one phrase or thing over and over, and it's become their kind of mantra. | ||
| And then you're like, yeah, I kind of... | ||
| I'm not into that as much anymore. | ||
| I'm into this shit now. | ||
| This is what's going on now. | ||
| It's weird how that, yeah, that can be the thing that you can either give them what they need or you can't, if you know what I mean. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A natural development. | ||
| Hip-hop seems to be, in a way, a lot like stand-up comedy in that it's kind of generic in turn. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But it's very broad in terms of content. | ||
| It's very different, right? | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| People who say, I love comedy or I love hip-hop. | ||
| You love specific comedy and specific hip-hop. | ||
| There's loads of shit comedy. | ||
| There's loads of shit hip-hop. | ||
| There's loads of shit spoken word. | ||
| I like good... | ||
| Comedy, hip-hop, and so, you know, I've got my specifics I like. | ||
| So, yeah, it's another one that a guy I work with sometimes, Sage Francis, was saying in an interview recently, it's got to the point now where when people talk about hip-hop, you can't assume that they're talking about the same thing as him. | ||
| And again, I think it's because it's so broad. | ||
| There's such a variation in there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's a giant, broad variation. | ||
| And it's interesting. | ||
| It's like if you went to a club and it just said rock and roll, well, you'd know it'd be rock and roll. | ||
| But if you went to a club, it just said music. | ||
| Well, hip-hop is like, it's such a very specific type of music, but inside the genre, there's like a bunch of different variables, right? | ||
| Yeah, hugely. | ||
| Again, when I first started off and I was touring about and trying to get my name out there, I'd struggle to describe what I do, because... | ||
| If I said hip-hop and people instantly thought of 50 Cent, or came because of 50 Cent, or can you, it's like, you're not going to be happy with what you get. | ||
| Or equally, they might be put off because they're not into that. | ||
| And it's like, well, this might not be... | ||
| Right. | ||
| They might think that you would, you know, you would be affecting a certain type of behavior. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They think I'm going to speak in an American accent and be... | ||
| Are you allowed to say wigger? | ||
| Is wigger a... | ||
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Wigger. | |
| It's okay to say wigger. | ||
| Wigger. | ||
| Wigger. | ||
| Has it become an issue? | ||
| It doesn't seem like it. | ||
| You can call someone that, and it's not like dropping an N-bomb. | ||
| Even though it sounds a lot like it, with a W, you're allowed to let it slide. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| And don't have a heartache. | ||
| But there is that kind, and then there's what you're doing, which is a completely different thing. | ||
| You're talking, and you're making shit rhyme, but you're also making statements, and it's very entertaining, but it's a form of hip-hop. | ||
| But it's a very different form of hip-hop. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, completely. | ||
| And it's key, the entertainment part is key as well, because I think a lot of people who do the more conscious stuff, it's just like, yeah, it's a lecture. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You're kind of just being fed this, and it feels like they're trying to get across just how intelligent they are and all this. | ||
| I'm kind of, in all my stuff, it's trying to open up... | ||
| Discussion, rather than say, here's the beginning and end of this subject. | ||
| It's kind of saying, look, here's some shit that we should maybe all think about a bit more or discuss in music or culture in general more, but not trying to say, I've got all the answers, here's my shit, I think. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I love the fact that there's so many different genres in hip-hop now, because I think that I've always been a fan. | ||
| I'm a fan of all kinds of different... | ||
| Like, I'm a fan of your style, but I'm also a big fan of old-school ghetto boys. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, completely. | ||
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I've got a radio show in the UK. Damn, it feels good to be a gangster came on the radio the other day, and I was like, fuck! | |
| This is the shit. | ||
| This song is the shit. | ||
| My favorite thing is when I'm in LA is because you've got radio stations that just play just old hip-hop and proper kind of hip-hop all day long. | ||
| And yeah, I don't have that in the UK. I miss Scarface. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Was Scarface still putting out shit? | ||
| He put out a new track like six months ago. | ||
| Damn, I need to get back into Scarface. | ||
| I forgot what a good rapper he is. | ||
| Damn, it feels good to be a gangster. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| In that album cover where the guy's eyeball hanging out? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| We can't be stopped. | ||
| Ghetto Boys, man. | ||
| That's Bushwick Bill. | ||
| Shot himself in the eye. | ||
| They were the craziest. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was some fun fucking music, man. | ||
| My mind's playing tricks on me. | ||
| I was... | ||
| Joe, I was... | ||
| When I was in Florida for doing comedy just last weekend, there was this fetish con going on. | ||
| And so it was like Mark Maron and... | ||
| Chris Hardwick and a few of us just all hanging out at this bar watching all these freaks. | ||
| It was like being at an AVN with dominatrixes and people in gimp suits and stuff like that. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And there was this guy that was dressed up as a woman with a face mask on, and she just stared at us and didn't move. | ||
| And the face mask had this creepy smile on it. | ||
| It was the most disturbing thing ever. | ||
| I have a photo of it somewhere. | ||
| Oh, just fetish people? | ||
| Yeah, just fetish people. | ||
| And then in Jacksonville, I went to this Burrow bar in There was a band that was about to start in the next room, and out of nowhere, this band jumps off stage and goes into the room, the bar area that we're at, and starts playing right into the crowd, jumping on the tables of the bar and stuff. | ||
| And then at the end, they caught the cymbals on fire, and the place was on fire. | ||
| It was the most intense, amazing band I've ever seen. | ||
| And it was just like a band. | ||
| I just popped into a bar and saw this They're an amazing band. | ||
| You should check out a video sometime of them. | ||
| They're a really interesting band. | ||
| But it's cool seeing live music like that. | ||
| What do they call it again? | ||
| Their name is Dak... | ||
| Hold on, I want to make sure I say this right. | ||
| Dak Sui? | ||
| Or something like that? | ||
| It's... | ||
| Spell it. | ||
| Here, I'll get it to your... | ||
| Well, to people online that are listening. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Here, I'll find it. | ||
| I'll find the proper spelling. | ||
| I'll be right back. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| I don't know where the fuck we were going before you just derailed the conversation. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| It's D-A-I-K-A-J-U. And you thought that Scroobius Pip was tough. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
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Yeah, damn. | |
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| And here's actually them playing outdoors, which is completely different than what you'd normally see. | ||
| But the lead singer, the guy right there in the face mask has the same mask that was at the Fetish Con that was just staring at us the whole time. | ||
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Wow, this is kind of wild. | |
| *Dramatic music* If you could imagine them in a small bar and things are on fire... | ||
| Standing right in front of you with that mask. | ||
| Dude, these guys are good. | ||
| That guy's a bad motherfucker. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Imagine. | ||
| Imagine if you couldn't hear, and you didn't hear sound, and you were trying to figure out what the fuck... | ||
| Make this totally silent. | ||
| Imagine if you didn't hear sound, and you see all this moving around, and see all these people staring at these guys just playing with these sticks in their hands. | ||
| You'd be like, what the fuck is going on on that stage? | ||
| Why is everybody watching that? | ||
| It's a weird gig, man. | ||
| You're creating cool sounds with a stick. | ||
| And you get this big piece of wood, and you're creating wild sounds with it. | ||
| That's really interesting. | ||
| Here's how I saw them. | ||
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They're just walking around the whole entire bar. | |
| Why? | ||
| Wireless. | ||
| And they could be different guys. | ||
| These guys get cocky, they fucking put a mask on a new dude, fire him. | ||
| That's perfect. | ||
| And it's good to see that he's learned and moved up to wireless, because clearly the cord was restricting him in the first one as he wanted to go and run around. | ||
| Here's him on top of the bar. | ||
| He was like doing this shit. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
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One part he was like just leaning on me, like sitting on my lap for the most part. | |
| That's wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So check them out. | ||
| So they don't sing? | ||
| No, they just jam like fucking crazy, dude. | ||
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That's wild. | |
| Like Hendrix style almost. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| Yeah, so their name is D-A-I-K-A-I-J-U. I like that, man. | ||
| I like that idea. | ||
| That's pretty cool. | ||
| I love that they've got a harder name than me. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Even though you spell it out twice now, I have no idea what their name is. | ||
| Hey man, Arnold Schwarzenegger is the good fallback. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| It doesn't mean shit. | ||
| It doesn't mean shit. | ||
| Bert Bacharach. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crazy name, motherfuckers. | ||
| Yeah, it's a weird thing, isn't it? | ||
| Like, the names. | ||
| It's important to write the right letters and words. | ||
| I can never tell if it's... | ||
| Like, if The Doors is a good name or it's a good name because of The Doors. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you were at some shitty gig in the local band and The Doors never happened and they were called The Doors, it probably wouldn't be as awesome as it is, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| Isn't it fascinating, though? | ||
| The names are about picking a pleasant sound that you can remember. | ||
| and that's easy to replicate with letters. | ||
| Like, if you have too many... | ||
| Like, what is this? | ||
| Daika, what the fuck is this? | ||
| Get out of here with that shit, dude. | ||
| No one's going to remember that shit. | ||
| And you've got to think more about it now because of the internet, because if you pick a name that's too familiar, then when you Google it, you're going to get, you know, some crazy... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whatever it is you've chosen. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Restricted. | ||
| Yeah, especially if you... | ||
| And what is... | ||
| How does it work when you hear bands have the same name as other bands? | ||
| I never know. | ||
| I guess someone has to argue it. | ||
| You know, like the Love Assassins. | ||
| Like, this must be like more than one Love Assassins. | ||
| The original Love Assassins. | ||
| You know, I mean, I just need that name up, but I'm sure it exists. | ||
| I'm not the first person to think that way, right? | ||
| That's a path. | ||
| That's like looking at a section of street and trying to imagine that no one ever walked down that. | ||
| It's impossible. | ||
| Somebody walked down that. | ||
| I might not have seen it, but it's happened. | ||
| So, like, how many different guys can come up with something like the Love Assassins? | ||
| You know? | ||
| You've just got to become the biggest love assassins out there, and then you've won, right? | ||
| Yeah, you've got to be the bad motherfucker. | ||
| If you're the biggest ones, then you're who the love assassins are. | ||
| Like, do you think there was another Kiss? | ||
| You know, like, Kiss seems like... | ||
| Seems like there's got to have been... | ||
| Had to have been. | ||
| At least one other band thought about becoming the name Kiss. | ||
| So probably if somebody's kind of retired or not as popular now, you could just be like, hey, no, my name's NWA now. | ||
| And just because you're more popular, you kind of would win at that argument, right? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I think that's probably trademarked because it's such a huge business. | ||
| But I think when you're first coming up and you don't have any legal paperwork, that's when it's only an issue. | ||
| Because if you try to be Jimi Hendrix today, they'd be like, shut the fuck up, bitch. | ||
| I ain't Jimi Hendrix. | ||
| But no, my new name is Jimi Hendrix. | ||
| I'm Jimi Hendrix. | ||
| But they would be like, no, Jimi Hendrix. | ||
| You can't be a musician and be Jimi Hendrix. | ||
| There's a copyright on that shit. | ||
| But I could be Milli Vanilli. | ||
| Well, no one wants to be, so I bet they would just let you. | ||
| Yeah, if you tried to be Milli Vanilli. | ||
| But I bet not. | ||
| I bet someone owns that shit. | ||
| Say if you and Jamie decided to go on tour as Milli and Vanilli, and you would lip-sync, and other people would sing the songs, you'd get your ass sued. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| What if you only did the Vanilli part? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Even Vanilli. | ||
| They probably own Millie and Vanilli. | ||
| They own both of those. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, they own it. | ||
| Don't you think they own it? | ||
| Rick Ross. | ||
| Well, Rick Ross is different because Rick Ross, the original Rick Ross, was not a rapper. | ||
| I mean, that's the whole reason why he has those t-shirts that say Rick Ross is not a rapper. | ||
| He was just unsigned. | ||
| He rapped all the time in the shower, I bet. | ||
| Christmas time he was rapping? | ||
| Well, he was a notorious drug dealer and a genuine nice guy. | ||
| I really like Rick Ross. | ||
| He's a cool guy. | ||
| He's got a book out now, by the way. | ||
| If anybody's interested, Rick has a brand new book and people have been asking us to get him on the podcast again and we definitely should. | ||
| Rick Ross book. | ||
| Just give him a plug. | ||
| The real Rick Ross. | ||
| Freeway Rick Ross. | ||
| The Untold Autobiography? | ||
| Yeah, The Untold Autobiography. | ||
| That's what it's called. | ||
| And he's got a fascinating story, if you're interested. | ||
| His story is, he was the connection between the Iran-Contra affair and selling drugs in Los Angeles. | ||
| He was one of the connections. | ||
| He was being supplied by a guy who was channeling that money that he made from Rick Ross directly into foreign operations. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| The whole story is crazy. | ||
| And the dude, when he went to jail, didn't even know how to read, okay, and in jail, taught himself how to read, then became a fucking legal expert and found the loopholes in his prosecution where they fucked up, found holes in the prosecution's angle, and got himself off, got himself out. | ||
| They had him in like a three-strike situation and he got out of that because it has to be three sentences. | ||
| It can't be three crimes. | ||
| It has to be three sentences. | ||
| And so they prosecuted him for it illegally. | ||
| It was incorrect use of the prosecution. | ||
| It's kind of weird though then that... | ||
| He wouldn't have educated himself or potentially wouldn't have educated himself in such a manner if he hadn't been put away. | ||
| So it's kind of... | ||
| It's odd to come out of that with, you know, improved and better and yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it is a fascinating case. | ||
| It's a very fascinating case and he's a very good guy. | ||
| And then after, you know, put up with Rick Ross using your name and... | ||
| Yeah, well, he sued him and lost, which is really crazy. | ||
| I mean, when we'll have him on, I'm sure he'll be able to tell us. | ||
| I don't know if they're continuing the lawsuit. | ||
| Well, maybe we could Google it right now. | ||
| It's a weird one with that because it's more of a regular name. | ||
| It's a Jimi Hendrix. | ||
| You're not going to hear that every day. | ||
| But Rick Ross, it feels like it'd be a tougher one to sue over because, yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, Rick Ross wins lawsuit against Freeway Rick Ross. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Freeway Rick Ross lost his lawsuit against rapper Rick Ross, born William Leonard Roberts on First Amendment grounds. | ||
| The case... | ||
| Wow, First Amendment grounds. | ||
| Freedom of speech. | ||
| So I guess you're allowed to take on the persona of a known drug dealer because it's like... | ||
| It's a persona? | ||
| So it's like artistic expression? | ||
| I mean, what is that? | ||
| It's like Bonnie and Clyde shit, you know? | ||
| I could probably call myself Bonnie and Clyde. | ||
| Yeah, but if they were alive, would you be able to, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the full name, Rick Ross? | ||
| The real Rick Ross knew about the entertainer's stage name since 2006. Oh! | ||
| The case originally began in 2010 and later appealed to a higher court after the lawsuit was ruled untimely since the real Rick Ross knew about the entertainer's stage name since 2006. So the idea was that the first time it was ruled untimely because he didn't act quick enough. | ||
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| But I think that there was some issues, the real Rick Ross said, where he had talked to Rick Ross and he was going to be compensated for it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then, remember he said he was going to chop it up with him? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| He said, we'll chop it up, we'll chop it up. | ||
| He was going to give him some money. | ||
| And then he decided not to. | ||
| And then he decided to go to lawsuits with him. | ||
| So I'm fucking... | ||
| Shady Pistons. | ||
| Explain why he took time over it and why he got around to that, but yeah. | ||
| And now that is a very different sort of a hip-hop. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, completely. | ||
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But again, it's a hip-hop I love as well. | |
| It's that mistake that people think that just because I do a certain kind of hip-hop that I think every kind of hip-hop should be like that. | ||
| It'd be boring as hell if all hip-hop was like that. | ||
| You have to have the variation in the genre and Yeah. | ||
| How much do you think the real Rick Ross should get paid by the fake Rick Ross? | ||
| Like, if you were the judge? | ||
| Half. | ||
| Depends how much the real Rick Ross... | ||
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Half! | |
| Holy shit! | ||
| That's crazy! | ||
| That's like being married to a dude. | ||
| That's too much. | ||
| Maybe 10%, though. | ||
| 10% might not be a bad number. | ||
| I'd say 10%, it seems fair. | ||
| Look, you don't even have to rap. | ||
| He lets that dude use his name. | ||
| That dude makes him more popular. | ||
| Here's the thing about the real Rick Ross... | ||
| I was being emotional. | ||
| Sweet. | ||
| You're a sweet guy. | ||
| I like that a lot about you. | ||
| But here's the thing about, like, think about the real Rick Ross. | ||
| Like, we know about the real Rick Ross because his story is fascinating, and we've talked to him, and he's an interesting guy. | ||
| But we also know about the real Rick Ross because the fake Rick Ross got famous as fuck with the same name. | ||
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| So how much would you know about Rick Ross if he wasn't getting fucked over by the fake Rick Ross? | ||
| I submit not nearly as much. | ||
| I submit that quite honestly, the real Rick Ross has benefited substantially from the fake Rick Ross using his name. | ||
| And it actually makes him even more legit because this fake fat rapper who used to be a corrections officer is using his shit. | ||
| I think the table has kind of changed a little since the fake Rick Ross has now become who he is. | ||
| He's like, you know, big. | ||
| He is now a huge moneymaker. | ||
| So now 10% I think is completely fair and everyone should just be happy and have dinner together and maybe go on tour together. | ||
| But the real Rick Ross, the original drug dealer Rick Ross, is benefiting substantially, publicity-wise, to being connected with this. | ||
| I mean, he has an amazing story on his own, but the reality is that this story is made more compelling by the fact that there's a guy running around stealing his name. | ||
| He's benefited from it. | ||
| It's really crazy when you think about it. | ||
| I wonder if what the cool thinking of the time of it was, that When he probably first heard of this rapper Rick Ross, he probably didn't think it was that huge a deal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But then when Rick Ross becomes one of the biggest rappers in the world, then suddenly that's a change. | ||
| Do you think that's part of it? | ||
| Or would he always have been trying to fight the... | ||
| I think he always, you know, even when he came out of jail, Rick Ross was famous. | ||
| He just wasn't as famous as he is now. | ||
| He's become really super famous. | ||
| His book, I'm sure, wouldn't be what it is if it wasn't for the fake Rick Ross. | ||
| Well, the story is amazing. | ||
| The story itself is amazing. | ||
| I mean, he was a tennis standout in high school. | ||
| Couldn't go to college because he couldn't read. | ||
| So he was an athlete and was like stranded in this terrible neighborhood, didn't know what the fuck to do. | ||
| So he started selling drugs and became this giant drug dealer. | ||
| He was making like some insane amounts of money, millions of dollars a week. | ||
| I mean, he was just making just stupid money. | ||
| And it was all being funneled to the United States, all these covert operations overseas in Nicaragua. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I mean, it was the whole Oliver, the whole Reagan Contra affair, and what the fuck's his name? | ||
| Oliver, what's his name? | ||
| Stone? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oliver North. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| The Oliver North situation, these guys on trial in front of the fucking entire country. | ||
| No one's ever seen that shit before. | ||
| You know, and Reagan, they're asking him if he sold arms to other countries and shit. | ||
| This was all, like, part of that same era. | ||
| You know, the same era of all this crazy shit going on that we're finding out the government's involved with. | ||
| And one of the things was selling drugs in the Los Angeles neighborhoods, the poor neighborhoods, and taking that money like the CIA was selling drugs. | ||
| And our late, great friend, Michael Rupert, who passed away recently, Michael Rupert, who was a narcotics investigator for the Los Angeles Police Department, he uncovered that shit. | ||
| They did that thing where he stood out in front of that press conference, they have this press conference, and he yells out, like, in the middle of this conference, that he knows that the CIA has been selling drugs in Los Angeles communities, and that he's caught them. | ||
| I mean, this guy says this on television. | ||
| And the whole crowd filled with black people. | ||
| They start cheering. | ||
| They're all excited about it. | ||
| And it's like he's just standing up and like, what a fucking crazy prick he was. | ||
| Yeah, we've been following the latest, you know, with the Anonymous and the whole shooting of that kid. | ||
| Oh, that kid in St. Louis? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's ugly, man. | ||
| That's ugly. | ||
| The kid in St. Louis is ugly, and there was the other kid in the Walmart that had the fake gun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just like, what the fuck is going on, man? | ||
| You know, there's an old expression, but it's a really valid one, is that when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's the problem with this society that we have, when people, you know, you give them guns and you put them in situations where if they make a bad call, someone dies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If they make a bad call, if they freak out, someone dies. | ||
| It's a huge difference to have that there, have that on you as an option. | ||
| But it's also like, I don't know what the options are, because if you take their guns away from them, Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| cautious people would choose. | ||
| Everyone needs to just give up their guns. | ||
| But that's never gonna happen. | ||
| People have to accept the fact that there's always going to be people that keep illegal guns if anybody tries to do that. | ||
| And they'll be doing it with, in their mind, the full approval of the Constitution. | ||
| The full approval of the Second Amendment. | ||
| What happened in Australia? | ||
| Like when they've got rid of, changed all their gun laws and got rid of guns and it was seen as it couldn't work. | ||
| They've not really had any incidents since. | ||
| They've changed their gun laws because they used to be exactly the same as America. | ||
| I don't know all the statistics on it, but they used to be the same as America. | ||
| And then they had one really bad major shooting. | ||
| And they changed their gun laws as a trial thing, I think, in this particular state or area. | ||
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| It's maintained and it's worked. | ||
| Again, they had all the same thing of people saying, you can't take people's guns away. | ||
| And they did have people protesting and against it. | ||
| But then a year on, kind of everyone's... | ||
| The problem is, I think you trust your government a lot more than we trust ours. | ||
| Because our government likes starting wars. | ||
| And our government has a history of not being honest with us. | ||
| Our government has a history of trying to suppress us. | ||
| And particularly, I mean, it seems for every, on a yearly basis, for every huge story there is of a member of the public going out and killing people, doing a shooting, there's then a police story of it as well. | ||
| So it kind of fuels them both. | ||
| I was tweeting. | ||
| That whole thing of, well, if we don't trust the police, then we need to be armed. | ||
| And the police, exactly the same as you've said, if they're policing an area where everyone's got guns, it's kind of... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People need to come to an agreement and that's not going to happen. | ||
| Well, it's also a problem whenever you have a group of people that become sort of responsible for the actions of an individual, right? | ||
| If you have 100 cops and one cop does something really fucked up, then cops are pigs. | ||
| And all these other cops get lumped into this one group. | ||
| Instead of it being an individual that was in a position of power that did something fucked up, it's the cops. | ||
| So then it's the cops versus the people. | ||
| And that's madness. | ||
| That's all madness. | ||
| The guy who shot that kid for sure is a piece of shit. | ||
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He fucked up. | |
| That's not saying that cops in general... | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't mean... | ||
| I mean, who knows what's going on through this guy's head. | ||
| The other thing about these guys, a lot of them have PTSD. Yeah. | ||
| You talk about PTSD for people that go away and they fight in wars and they come back. | ||
| Well, a lot of those guys that do that become cops, first of all. | ||
| When they come back, it's a good gig for a soldier. | ||
| You're already used to being in the shit. | ||
| It's probably mild in comparison to what you've seen. | ||
| And you can probably handle stress better than the average person. | ||
| If you're looking for a gig, it's probably a good gig. | ||
| But it's going to make you more comfortable pulling your... | ||
| You can as well, right? | ||
| That's true, too. | ||
| And, you know, you also used to, I mean, especially if you had to have active, you've actually been in combat. | ||
| You know, if you've been in combat, you've definitely shot people. | ||
| If you definitely shot people, it'd be easier to shoot somebody again. | ||
| And you also probably, your senses, your whole sense of, like, what's on the line would probably be much easier. | ||
| Much more, like, sharp than a person that's never seen people killed. | ||
| Like, you're like, this could happen in any second. | ||
| You better stop this before it happens. | ||
| You have, like, a much shorter, like, line of bullshit that you'll tolerate. | ||
| And that's, you know, that's... | ||
| If you're in a war zone, that's to be expected. | ||
| But that... | ||
| Warzone becomes the streets if you have the same attitude, but it's just going to happen that way. | ||
| When you have people and they hate each other and there's a group here and a group there, the cops and the citizens, and you have a situation like this, things will be flared up for years now. | ||
| It's annoying how it has to be such a group thing and these people against these people. | ||
| There was a song out about two years ago now, just before all the Trayvon and Martin stuff happened. | ||
| And it was called Film the Police. | ||
| And it was a rewrite of NWA, Fuck the Police. | ||
| And it was just calling everyone to... | ||
| Like, we've all got phones now. | ||
| It's saying, the police are policing us, but there's issues. | ||
| So rather than being less... | ||
| Rather than being a fuck the police, being... | ||
| Just make sure you're filming stuff. | ||
| And there was just a huge backlash from people in support of the police saying, no, this isn't fair. | ||
| And it's like, well... | ||
| It's not saying that film the police and catch them all up to shit. | ||
| It's like the good ones won't be doing anything bad. | ||
| So it's not a negative thing, you know. | ||
| But if you're using more a watching the Watchmen, as it were, kind of thing, then it starts to then police itself and hopefully... | ||
| I don't think there's anything wrong with the idea of filming police. | ||
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No. | |
| And I think there's also a lot of evidence that when police are forced to wear cameras, they film all their actions. | ||
| There's the thing about the... | ||
| Yeah, the allegations of abuse dropped by 80%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And someone actually said this. | ||
| Yeah, it's because people can't claim fake abuse now. | ||
| Somebody actually said it to me on Twitter. | ||
| I'm like, or cops know that they can't fucking do douchey shit because they're wearing a camera. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's great. | ||
| Again, I mean... | ||
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Cops are people. | |
| There's good ones and bad ones. | ||
| Completely. | ||
| In the UK, you realise now that there was a time when the cops were the best of the best. | ||
| But that's not the case anymore. | ||
| There's a variation. | ||
| There's some people who are genuinely good citizens trying to make this change. | ||
| But I knew people who... | ||
| Who worked with me in the record store and didn't get kept on and became a policeman instead. | ||
| You couldn't do retail and now you're policing the streets kind of thing. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's not the best of the best that it should or was. | ||
| Being police should be like being the night's watch. | ||
| It should really be like you're the guy who's guarding the top of the... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, that's really what it should be like. | ||
| It should be a revered position of noble people, you know, martial artists, people who are, you know, they actually want to do good, have a code and an ethic. | ||
| It's the same with politicians, though. | ||
| Like, we all complain about how all the politicians are kind of scumbags. | ||
| It's like, because it's not an appealing job. | ||
| Like, normal people like us wouldn't, it's not appealing being a fucking politician. | ||
| Could you imagine you had to be the mayor or something? | ||
| They said, Pip, it's your time. | ||
| It's the Worst nightmare. | ||
| Imagine if that was like the draft. | ||
| Like you just get drafted to be the fucking mayor. | ||
| Like out of nowhere. | ||
| We like your lyrics. | ||
| You're going to be the mayor now. | ||
| You're like, what? | ||
| And they fucking show up at your door with accountants. | ||
| You got to go over the budget. | ||
| Like how much you want to spend on vacation? | ||
| What? | ||
| How much you want to spend on the government? | ||
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What? | |
| It's crazy. | ||
| How much do you want to spend on sewage? | ||
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What? | |
| Spend on sewage? | ||
| Yeah, we got a water bill. | ||
| We owe Colorado. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, fuck all that, man. | ||
| And that's the problem, because everybody says fuck all that. | ||
| And the only people that don't say fuck all that are the ones who can make some money from it or can be... | ||
| Or hopefully are really dedicated to trying to help people. | ||
| You hope. | ||
| But good fucking luck. | ||
| Good luck with all that. | ||
| Especially in this day and age. | ||
| We're going to need some dust to settle. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| I mean, it's just with the whole politics thing, you need... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I kind of argue with people online about this all the time because I think the way your democracy is currently set up and our democracy is currently set up, there's no chance of any real change anytime soon because it's a gradual, slight change is either way, but nothing else is discussed. | ||
| We need to protect the ideals of democracy and it's like, well... | ||
| Why? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think there's, I mean, there's, I'm going completely off on tangent now, but there's hundreds of different kinds ofocracy and kinds of ways to run a society. | ||
| Number one, our democracies we've got aren't real democracies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're kind of, it's the two-party system and all this kind of thing, so it's not a real, we just vote and that's who gets in. | ||
| And they're often being funded by the same companies. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Exactly, it's the same thing. | ||
| Incredibly ridiculous. | ||
| There's loads of, I mean, I was just discussing recently, and it pisses people off because it kind of shows a level of elitism that people are scared of, but I think going on stuff based on a meritocracy and stuff like that, where, say, your vote would be worth more than the guy who's sitting at home in a trailer and doesn't know anything about politics. | ||
| But isn't that dangerous, though? | ||
| That's kind of dangerous when one person's vote is worth more than another person's vote. | ||
| But it depends how it's measured. | ||
| So, for example, my theory on it being, if when you go to vote, there's a short questionnaire on politics or on social or on society or something, and that ranks... | ||
| At what you're worth. | ||
| But isn't that subjective? | ||
| I mean, first of all, there's just information. | ||
| Like, you could have information about politics. | ||
| That's one thing. | ||
| Like, you know, when was Eleanor Roosevelt this? | ||
| When was... | ||
| Or more on policies. | ||
| On policies and on what's actually valid at the moment. | ||
| because then even if people then just bone up on it to try and cheat the system that's good they're reading about what the policies are they're learning it rather than just going and ticking a box that their family have always supported republicans therefore that's that that's a good point forcing people to have some level of education in it to make their vote worth Yeah, maybe I'm hanging on to the idea that everyone should have an equal vote and that it shouldn't be like an earned thing, and you earn it by having an education about the system. | ||
| It's actually not a bad idea. | ||
| There's a great quote that says, we're not all entitled to our own opinion, we're all entitled to our own informed opinion. | ||
| Because again, everyone quotes that thing of, I'm entitled to my own opinion. | ||
| It's like, well, no, if someone's done more research on it and knows about it, then There is right and wrong. | ||
| You can't just argue, well, that's my opinion. | ||
| I'm entitled to it. | ||
| In some issues, yeah. | ||
| There's some issues where it's not. | ||
| There's some issues where it's just a subjective judgment. | ||
| One person would agree, one person would disagree. | ||
| There's certain issues that people are very, very passionate about that You have polar opposite people absolutely dedicated to their opinion and won't budge. | ||
| Like abortion. | ||
| And that's a great thing, but then it's an informed opinion. | ||
| It's not just a kind of... | ||
| Sometimes not even though. | ||
| Sometimes there's not an informed opinion. | ||
| Sometimes people just get on a side and that's their side. | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But that's people. | ||
| That's a super common thing. | ||
| That's a super common thing to take on Republican talking points or take on liberal talking points. | ||
| Really common. | ||
| Or the Bible's the key example of that, where people are just blindly, well, that's my belief, and therefore I will fight any arguments against it, despite any logic and theories and reality. | ||
| Yeah, that's a big one. | ||
| That's a common one because, you know, that's one that has been used for so many years by so many people and it's become just a well-paved path that everybody can walk on. | ||
| It's a great structure and set up. | ||
| Our first song that got big, like when I was working with a guy, Daniel Sack, I'm not religious, but the reason I think it hit through with people is it's a simple structure that you all know and are familiar with. | ||
| And that's why it works for religion as well as in a spoken word hip-hop song. | ||
| It's that simplicity of you know the stories and the structures. | ||
| Therefore, you can get a point across that isn't about a religion, but by using those, that's more about society and people, but using that template of what religion people have laid down for us. | ||
| Yeah, what religious people have laid down and, you know, the variance in, like, how much they vary from one to the next, like, how much Judaism varies from Islam, varies from Christianity, how much they borrow from each other. | ||
| Like, somebody's wrong. | ||
| Somebody's wrong. | ||
| Well, let's just break down, like, what you guys are actually, what are we supporting here? | ||
| Are we supporting the idea That there's a guy, and this guy watches over everything, and he made everything. | ||
| He's allowing all this crazy chaos. | ||
| And he told us once, a few thousand years ago, how to live your life. | ||
| And if you don't pay attention to what the fuck he said back then, you're on your own. | ||
| And so you're forced to be led by a bunch of people. | ||
| He sees these people. | ||
| He sees their hypocritical actions. | ||
| He does nothing. | ||
| He allows them to distort his message and relay it in his most fucked up way that's ruining the earth itself. | ||
| And still, he doesn't come down and correct anybody. | ||
| Like, this is what you're saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| Or is this puzzle far too complex for our brains? | ||
| Is this like an ant trying to understand a satellite? | ||
| Because if you try to get an ant to understand a satellite, it's outside of his realm of comprehension. | ||
| And I think we have a realm of comprehension whether we like to admit it or not. | ||
| And I think the very nature of the universe itself is currently outside of our realm of comprehension. | ||
| Or at least the realm of comprehension of the average person, me included. | ||
| But... | ||
| Faith has got to be the most, not dangerous word ever made, but that's the thing. | ||
| The argument would always be, well, we were left here and we've got to have faith that God's going to do this and do that, and it's all tests, but I've got my faith. | ||
| That's a massive get-out clause for any argument. | ||
| Well, you can't see this person, you can't prove it. | ||
| Well, not only can you not prove it, but you're having faith in something that It looks very much like bullshit. | ||
| If you look at the stories, a guy came back from the dead, he was dead for three days, and then he pushed a rock aside and came back. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright, I believe that. | ||
| Okay, this is Adam and Eve, so there's two people, and then they fuck, and what happens? | ||
| They have kids, and then... | ||
| It's time, though, right? | ||
| It's time that allows that to be accepted. | ||
| Because everyone kind of jokes now and mocks Scientology because of the ludicrousness of loads of what they say. | ||
| But it's ludicrous because it's new. | ||
| If it was thousands of years old, then people would be the same with Christianity and just kind of go, well, you know, it is kind of ludicrous. | ||
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But people don't even admit Christianity is ludicrous. | |
| If you have conversations with hardcore Christians about whether or not Christianity is ludicrous, they'll argue with you about why it's not, and what these stories really represent, and how the message of God comes through these stories. | ||
| I think it's crazy that there's such a mixture as well in there. | ||
| There will be loads of Christians that know that all that stuff is kind of bullshit, but they believe what they believe and they believe they're... | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| That they're just stories and all this kind of thing. | ||
| So it's... | ||
| Well, there's all sorts of levels, right? | ||
| Within your own belief system, there's such a variation. | ||
| There's people who would sit here now and go, yeah, that's fucking crazy, but they're devout Christians and... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's people that just believe in God and they feel like the Bible is sort of a framework for good behavior that was laid down by this holy entity at one point in the past. | ||
| And that although the stories have been twisted and weird and, you know, that a lot of these stories, they probably represented something. | ||
| Something important a long time ago. | ||
| And so you're getting this connection to God through a game of telephone. | ||
| I don't know if you've played it in England. | ||
| But you would tell a friend something, and then he would tell a friend something, and then he would tell a friend something. | ||
| By the time it got down to Brian, the story was dog shit. | ||
| It was all fucked up. | ||
| And I think that the idea is that... | ||
| In the UK, it was called Chinese Whispers, which sounds incredibly racist. | ||
| LAUGHTER But that's what it was. | ||
| It was called Chinese Whispers. | ||
| It wasn't... | ||
| That's that game. | ||
| Anyway, Telephone's a far better name for it. | ||
| Let's stick with that. | ||
| But that whole idea is that at the end of that is God. | ||
| At the end of that is God. | ||
| Yeah, the story got fucked up. | ||
| But the story did get fucked up. | ||
| But that story has a direct connection to God. | ||
| And the way that direct connection works is that at one point in time, there was... | ||
| There was something where someone was explained the very nature of the universe. | ||
| And then, whether it was through psychedelic drugs, whether it was through an actual religious experience with a divine entity, and then from that point, what happened is that person told another person, that person told another person, they did their best to remember everything that the people before them told them. | ||
| But if you got through all that goofy shit, all that Adam and Eve stuff, and all that fucking... | ||
| The more weird and ridiculous and preposterous stories in any religion, if you got through all that and went back to the source, you almost are still connected in some sort of a weird, bizarre, and maybe like a... | ||
| Like, almost like a mathematical way, you're connected to the original story. | ||
| You know, there's the original story, the original story turns into this, his memory fucks it up, it turns into that. | ||
| Like, is it correct at the end? | ||
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| Just in the translations as well, though. | ||
| It was all written in a language that is dead, and people re-translate and change and things like that, and it's like, well... | ||
| Well, there's two of them, too. | ||
| So far away from... | ||
| The oldest version that they found is the stuff that's in Qumran. | ||
| That's the Dead Sea Scrolls. | ||
| Some of the same stories that are in the Bible. | ||
| So these are the oldest versions by like a thousand years. | ||
| And I think they're the only ones that are in Aramaic. | ||
| It's in Aramaic, and it's written on animal skins. | ||
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| They pieced together the Dead Sea Scrolls with DNA. They made sure that they got the DNA of the same cow, so they knew if it was the same cow, it most likely was the same piece of paper, because they were all different cows and different pieces of paper, and they had to figure out which animal skins, because they had all these crumbs and pieces, and they had to piece them together over decades, man. | ||
| Just madness. | ||
| And that is what all the faith and beliefs are based on. | ||
| And they just found this shit, man. | ||
| It was in like 1947. Again, there's that old, I think it was in a TV series in the UK, there was a joke thing of they found the original first page of the Bible just saying that any resemblance to people in real life is purely coincidental and so on and so forth and that it's just a book of fiction. | ||
| It's just some found old thing. | ||
| Yeah, and the best version of the world, it would be, get to the end of the Bible, and it just says, Psyche! | ||
| We were on mushrooms! | ||
| That would be the best version. | ||
| Love David Copperfield. | ||
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Psyche! | |
| Made it all up. | ||
| Yeah, in 1946, a collection of 981 texts. | ||
| Was discovered between 46 and 56. It took some 10 years in this area in the West Bank called Qumran. | ||
| And they were found inside caves about a mile inland north of the northwest shore of the Dead Sea. | ||
| Really interesting shit, man. | ||
| Nine of the scrolls. | ||
| We're rediscovered at the Israeli Antiquities Authority in 2014 after they had been stored unopened for six decades following their excavation in 1952. The texts are of great historical, religious, and linguistic significance because they include the earliest known surviving manuscripts of works later included in the Hebrew Bible canon along with Deuterocanonical Deuteronomy. | ||
| Is that the band? | ||
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Is that the band? | |
| Deutero... | ||
| You know, this is how, like... | ||
| My wife was saying this to me the other day. | ||
| It's interesting when you're raising kids and you're teaching them how to say words and, you know, you have to spell it and you see how it's difficult. | ||
| Well, when you learn a new word like this, like, you know, if that was deuteronomy, I could just say it and it would be easy. | ||
| But I'm trying to figure it out as I'm saying it like a little kid. | ||
| Like, that kind of never goes away. | ||
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| Deuterocanonical. | ||
| Deuterocanonical. | ||
| An extra-biblical manuscripts which preserve the evidence of the diversity of religious thought in the late Second Temple Judaism. | ||
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Interesting, interesting, interesting stuff, man. | |
| From 408 BCE and 318 BCE. Man, they don't really know, though. | ||
| It's crazy that the Bible is just a collection of stories and not one... | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| It wasn't written as one thing. | ||
| You kind of think of it as the Bible, but saying that parts of the stuff on the Dead Sea Scrolls were stories included in the Bible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, just pick and choose. | ||
| 408 BCE. Whew! | ||
| I wonder what the oldest known... | ||
| That's the range. | ||
| So the oldest one they found is 408 BC. I wonder what the oldest version of the Hebrew Bible is, if you had a guess. | ||
| 40 years. | ||
| Shut up, bitch. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| What do you think, like, the oldest version of the Hebrew Bible? | ||
| I have no clue. | ||
| 3,000 years. | ||
| Because I had assumed that actually the Dead Sea Scrolls were from earlier than that. | ||
| I'd read something that must have been incorrect that said it was older than that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The oldest surviving Hebrew manuscript, including the Dead Sea Scrolls, 2nd century BCE. Well, this is Wikipedia, and it's giving me a different date. | ||
| Because they were saying 4, like 408, right? | ||
| Was that the longest version? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that is like the oldest version. | ||
| It's the oldest version of the Hebrew Bible. | ||
| Or the oldest version of the stories that are in the Hebrew Bible. | ||
| That are in the Hebrew Bible. | ||
| Yeah, amazing. | ||
| Imagine if you can go back to those dudes who wrote the Bible way back then and you could bring them in a time machine to 2014 and show them the havoc that they've created. | ||
| Have them explain, yeah, what was... | ||
| No, that's not... | ||
| They've missed the whole page out there. | ||
| Just have them tweak it a little. | ||
| Well, it's so weird that it gets translated into different languages. | ||
| Like, have you ever done one of those things where you take Russian and you translate it to English and you try to, like, explain what the fuck they mean? | ||
| Their language is so different than ours that it always comes out like, he gives to a country but fails not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| You know, there's a weird interpretation of languages to English. | ||
| So you've got to think you're going from a weird language like ancient Hebrew, which was, they used to have, like, their numbers were embedded in their words. | ||
| So, like, there was no numbers. | ||
| What if it just started off as memes? | ||
| Like, what if we're just going back to how the Bible, you know, the language back then actually was just like, we all talked like a meme back then. | ||
| Like you just said, that sounds like a meme almost. | ||
| Like, I go back home with letters in... | ||
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | |
| That's not the Bible. | ||
| You're not even paying attention to what I said. | ||
| That's like if you take Russian and interpret it to English. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying. | ||
| Just the ancient languages, like when they try... | ||
| The fact that they've got that translation and the original thing they're reading is just so old and they're using DNA to kind of piece it in the right order and all that kind of thing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Mostly guessing, right? | ||
| Well, no, they're not really guessing, you know? | ||
| I mean, there's definitely pieces missing. | ||
| But when they have stories that are, like, when they translate part of the story and the story is, like, very similar to, like, Book of Genesis or something along those lines, they can sort of make those correlations. | ||
| If they have enough similarities, you know? | ||
| But there's a lot of those stories that are like that, man. | ||
| Like, when you go back to the oldest shit, that cuneiform that the Sumerians used to write in... | ||
| Oh, it's so weird looking, man. | ||
| There was no variation in the way their letters were. | ||
| Their letters were all like these little lines. | ||
| So they'd go down to... | ||
| Pull this up. | ||
| Cuneiform ancient Sumerian. | ||
| Weird, weird shit, man. | ||
| They would write in this... | ||
| More easy Google searches here. | ||
| It's just the simplest. | ||
| It's cool to look at. | ||
| What it looks like is a wedge. | ||
| Say if you were chopping down a tree, you had to stick a wedge in there. | ||
| They're more like wedges than they are. | ||
| It's not like a straight line. | ||
| It's like there's a fat top and then it goes down to a lower bottom. | ||
| This is how they wrote. | ||
| Look at these things. | ||
| How weird is that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like all emojis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| I mean, it's sort of like... | ||
| It's so hard to imagine how different that is. | ||
| Keep that up so we can look at that shit for a second. | ||
| Look how weird that is. | ||
| Like, that's their language, and they write in these little columns. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so much of it just to us looking exactly the same, looking similar shapes and sizes. | ||
| How can that have the intricacies of a language? | ||
| Yeah, if you like... | ||
| If you looked at that, that looks like dog shit. | ||
| Like, if you had your whole life to figure out what the fuck that means, you would never figure it out. | ||
| You'd never figure it out. | ||
| So it takes like a team of linguists to piece this together. | ||
| And here's the crazy shit. | ||
| They don't even know what the word sounded like. | ||
| There's a bunch of words in ancient Sumerian. | ||
| It's a fucking guesswork. | ||
| There was a thing that someone had done where they had recreated what they believe ancient Sumerian sounded like. | ||
| But it's so dead that no one can even talk it. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| How can you even start to conceive how to pronounce the scratch-ins that were on that thing then? | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| Well, I don't know how they do it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I know that they have, like, this is what it looked like. | ||
| This is the language. | ||
| Yeah, I guess some of them... | ||
| Oh, this is year by year. | ||
| We'll scroll. | ||
| Make that a little larger so we can see it. | ||
| It's year by year. | ||
| Like, scroll down so you can get to the top, to the top, to the top. | ||
| See? | ||
| 3200 BCE, 3000 BCE, and then you go all the way to the far right. | ||
| Yeah, and it's just all the lines. | ||
| A thousand, yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Those weird lines, man. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| So this was like 8-bit, and this is like Xbox. | ||
| They pretty much updated it to a better language. | ||
| No, the other way around. | ||
| Oh, the other way around. | ||
| Right, yeah. | ||
| It's got to be partly down to the methods in which they were writing. | ||
| They couldn't have done more intricate stuff if you're scratching into clay and stuff like that. | ||
| They also would make these rollers. | ||
| They would make these rollers and then they would lay out clay and they would roll the roller into the clay and then bake the clay. | ||
| So, like, the roller itself would be, like, a method of distributing, like, a newspaper. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you'd be able to roll that shit, and you'd put it in the clay, and then you could do it several times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so they had these weird things that they used to do to make these clay tablets. | ||
| So you kind of have to make the newspaper yourself, as it were. | ||
| Yeah, I guess. | ||
| I mean, I... I remember hearing, it's crazy, the first adverts ever made were... | ||
| Musical notes and that printed on the product you bought and you had to sing the advert yourself. | ||
| It's the first ever jingles. | ||
| Really? | ||
| We're on cigarette packets and that. | ||
| But in those days... | ||
| Because, yeah, there wasn't any radio and stuff like that. | ||
| And in those days, everyone kind of had a piano or could play shit. | ||
| And, yeah, the first ever jingles were printed and written out and people would sit around the piano and play the... | ||
| The Camel Cigars. | ||
| Wow, that's wild. | ||
| It's the origin of Jingles. | ||
| The original Jingles was advertising. | ||
| Hey, pull up Sumerian cylinder seals. | ||
| And you can see these things that they used to do where they used to lay this clay down and roll their message out onto the clay. | ||
| And I guess if you probably wanted to get a message to somebody, you would send a seal, you'd send one of these cylinders, and then they would lay the clay out, and they would roll the cylinder on the clay, and it would read out what you had to say to them. | ||
| Isn't that wild? | ||
| What would you think this is? | ||
| Like, hey, look for the bird. | ||
| It's just arranging a meeting, isn't it? | ||
| That represents UFOs, Brian. | ||
| Don't you get it? | ||
| Look at the griffin on the bottom. | ||
| UFO. That's an alien. | ||
| See those squirrely things? | ||
| That's DNA. So what that represents is the alien came down from sky. | ||
| And Leo's rule. | ||
| And the griffins are awesome birds looking freaky lion things. | ||
| And what are those lions on the top? | ||
| Is there like a male lion and a female lion? | ||
| Is that what's going on there? | ||
| Yeah, they're like high-fiving. | ||
| Oh, they're doing knuckles, it looks like. | ||
| This is the number one culture that the ancient astronaut theorists point to. | ||
| They love this stuff. | ||
| Because it was so far ago, you're like, who the fuck knows? | ||
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So long ago, who the fuck knows what was really going on? | |
| But these people in ancient Sumer, they had all this, like, they were really into the stars. | ||
| They had all these images of, like, the galaxy. | ||
| They had a depiction of the solar system. | ||
| With all the stars, or all the planets, rather, in the correct orbit. | ||
| It's really interesting. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pull up a Sumerian solar system. | ||
| Ancient Sumerian solar system. | ||
| Is that horses having sex? | ||
| It's one goat looking one way and one goat looking the other way and some crazy thing in the mail going, what do you want from me? | ||
| Everybody's banging everybody. | ||
| It's an important message to have had to send. | ||
| We need to commit this to Cylinder and get the word out about the way that goat was looking at it. | ||
| Well, it's like, haven't you ever made a note on your phone and you couldn't remember what the fuck it meant? | ||
| Like, at the time, you're like, I'll understand this. | ||
| So many times, I'm waking up at night and thinking, I've got a lyric or an idea, just noting it, and then looking at it and going, what the... | ||
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What was it that you wanted? | |
| Sumerian solar system. | ||
| Solar system, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there's an image of the sun in the center and all these planets that are floating around the sun. | ||
| And they're all in like the sort of similar sizes. | ||
| Like, see how it's like that? | ||
| Similar to what the actual planets are. | ||
| That's what it looked like. | ||
| But pull it back so you can actually see the image of itself. | ||
| The actual cylinder image. | ||
| You just had it. | ||
| Oh, you couldn't see it? | ||
| No, the image, the actual image, there's a clay image of it. | ||
| See it on the right? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Either one of those. | ||
| That's the actual image. | ||
| And if you see that right there, that's the solar system. | ||
| In between them, there's the sun and those circles. | ||
| Those are the exact planets. | ||
| And, you know, the bigger ones are bigger and the smaller ones are smaller and they're all in the right orbit. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| Most likely, what they think is, you know, when I've listened to many people give their opinions on these kind of things and how do these people know what they knew and what... | ||
| I'm... | ||
| I'm of an opinion that most likely at one point in time, people were really fucking smart. | ||
| And they had gotten really far, and they had learned a lot of shit, and they had lived for a long time, and then cataclysms happened. | ||
| They got hit by asteroids, they got hit by, you know, super volcanoes, whatever it is. | ||
| And whatever was learned was forgotten, and they started all over again. | ||
| And they probably did it a gang of times. | ||
| And people who kind of argue against that will say, just, yeah, would they have, like, why aren't there cameras or whatever? | ||
| But I think the very nature of that theory is there's no chance at all that their intelligence would have developed in the same way as did. | ||
| The technology wouldn't have developed in the same way. | ||
| way they could have been far superior yet never invented petrol or use electronics electronics any of that but so that kind of yeah it makes sense of it's our own arrogance now of going but you know they didn't have TVs so that's so true it's so that's such a good point and you know I think that people from England have a bit of a better perspective of time than people in | ||
| Because if you're in London, if you go through London, you'll see thousand-year-old buildings. | ||
| Like, you don't see that shit in America. | ||
| I was at a wedding in Boston once, and I had a day spare, and I popped into an antique store, and it was, like, all, like, the 50s and 60s. | ||
| And it's like, that's not an antique store. | ||
| Like, you go to England, antique store, it's, like, hundreds of years old, all this old stuff. | ||
| But there's, like, this is antiques. | ||
| This is, like, 80s. | ||
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This is... | |
| This is a long time ago. | ||
| It's like, no, that's not what an antique is, my friend. | ||
| Yeah, there's bars in London that are like a thousand years old, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's so crazy. | ||
| The whole place is, it's so different. | ||
| Like when you're passing by the palace and you look at that thing, you see Buckingham Palace and you're like, well, that's a palace. | ||
| It's right here. | ||
| They have a palace. | ||
| It's another thing in LA. When driving around, I see a lot of the houses that are kind of castle-like. | ||
| And they think that that's what a castle looks like. | ||
| It's like, have you been to a castle? | ||
| Because castles aren't really... | ||
| Castles aren't just houses with a little square bit on top. | ||
| They're these built out of rocks and these huge things. | ||
| And yeah, it always entertains me over here. | ||
| Yeah, all the different castles. | ||
| It's like, that's... | ||
| Isn't it weird that they sell castles? | ||
| Like, you can buy a castle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you, Scrooby's Pip, could go back to England and buy a goddamn castle. | ||
| I want a castle now. | ||
| Who do I need to talk to about this, Trevor? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We need to find the guy and connect you to him, because I watch one of those home and garden shows, you know, where people work on houses. | ||
| Or do they build you a castle, or you buy an original and old castle? | ||
| They had an old castle, and they were trying to do an addition, add-on to the castle, and they had to fight tooth and claw to get it. | ||
| They wanted to put a garage in or something like that, and they're like, fuck off, you can't, it's a castle. | ||
| But he's like, it's my castle! | ||
| I'm like, nope, can't do it, until they eventually let him do it. | ||
| I don't want to have a clicker for the drawbridge. | ||
| So when they pull up, it can just come on, help me out. | ||
| Just like an RFID card they put on your license plate. | ||
| As soon as it recognizes you're driving and it opens up the drawbridge, no one else can get in. | ||
| There's a few different castles in England that are hotels now and you can just go and stay in a castle that is hundreds and hundreds of years old. | ||
| I've done that before and it's, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Imagine owning... | ||
| You can, though. | ||
| I've heard of people that are famous people like, buy castles. | ||
| It feels so rude to put a TV and everything in, though. | ||
| Like, you're in this old castle and you're, like, kitting it out. | ||
| Yeah, you shouldn't even, like, you really probably shouldn't even have electricity. | ||
| No, you should just read. | ||
| Everything should be candlelight if you're going to do it right. | ||
| I mean, that's what England's basically like anyway. | ||
| It's all ye olde and candlelit. | ||
| I know that's what... | ||
| Is it really? | ||
| That's the image that we give out. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| You can get some castles right here. | ||
| What kind of castle do you want? | ||
| Sell castles? | ||
| Yeah, what kind of castle do you want? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| It's like a website? | ||
| Yeah, it's a real estate website. | ||
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Wait a minute. | |
| One of them says a castle's a thousand pounds? | ||
| A million. | ||
| Is that a million pounds? | ||
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That's what it says? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What's a pound as it relates to a dollar? | ||
| At the moment... | ||
| So that would be about 1.8 million? | ||
| So 1 million pounds is 1.8 million? | ||
| Yeah, roughly at the moment. | ||
| That's a pretty good deal for a castle. | ||
| Yeah, that seems crazy. | ||
| It seems like castles are one of those things that really wouldn't depreciate very much. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| I mean, you could get a castle in Transylvania. | ||
| You look after it, Will. | ||
| Yeah, and does it come with a vampire? | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| That's 47. Do you want to have a castle? | ||
| Where do you... | ||
| Weekend? | ||
| Oh, we go to Transylvania. | ||
| We have a summer home. | ||
| I bet Wi-Fi would suck in a castle. | ||
| It's probably non-existent. | ||
| You'd probably have to have satellite internet. | ||
| I mean, you might not even be able to get that. | ||
| I guarantee you they haven't laid the lines down unless this castle's been used by people for a long time. | ||
| I drove through Transylvania on our last tour and it just feels like the most underused, like, they should put a Dracula Disneyland or some shit there. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| And it'd be the most, that'd be a huge tourist thing. | ||
| You go through and it is eerie and kind of run down and really no economy going on there and you just think... | ||
| It's Transylvania, for fuck's sake. | ||
| Surely that's the most marketable real location. | ||
| It blows people's mind to find out that that's a real place. | ||
| That's not just a fictional thing in a book. | ||
| Someone needs to go there and build a tourist resort. | ||
| Dude, you should do it. | ||
| You should do it. | ||
| You should contact their tourism board. | ||
| I'll remortgage my castle and see if I can open up Transylvania. | ||
| But doesn't it seem like that would be a dope idea? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you think of loads of kind of where you have these amusement parks and things like that. | ||
| It's normally in kind of shitty areas where there isn't anything else anyway because you don't want that in the middle of a town. | ||
| Don't say that about Anaheim, sir. | ||
| That shit's rude. | ||
| Orlando either. | ||
| But it makes them a destination. | ||
| Oh yeah, Orlando's a big-time destination just because of those. | ||
| And if you had... | ||
| Whoa, how about this? | ||
| If you had a fucking spot where you had It was like an amusement park, but it was all horror rides. | ||
| Everything was fucking terrifying. | ||
| Like, they're doing an American Werewolf in London maze at Universal for Halloween, which I'll be attending. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| See that shit. | ||
| That's going to be fun. | ||
| Doing it on mushrooms. | ||
| But could you imagine... | ||
| It's making an amusement park purely for adults. | ||
| An amusement park for adults in Transylvania that's all horror. | ||
| And then they set up the entire location like they have fucking speakers in the woods where you hear horrible howls in the middle of the night while you're sleeping. | ||
| They scare the fucking shit out of you. | ||
| It's the way to go. | ||
| Everywhere you go, people are... | ||
| Instead of like... | ||
| When you go to Disneyland, you see dudes are dressed up like fucking Mickey Mouse and Goofy and you go by Goofy's Kitchen and Goofy wave at you. | ||
| Instead of that, you have dudes made up in full horror outfits. | ||
| And those dudes would love working there. | ||
| Just sprinting out of nowhere. | ||
| Just out of nowhere. | ||
| They dive in front of you. | ||
| And then take off into the bushes. | ||
| They don't fuck with people. | ||
| They don't hit them. | ||
| But they scare the shit out of you. | ||
| When you're going there, though, you'd have to sign so much shit to say you're not going to punch anyone. | ||
| Ooh, what is this? | ||
| Because if someone jumps out at you, you have something. | ||
| I think this is like a camp where you go camping, but it's a horror camp. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| It sounds like a recipe for murder. | ||
| It's probably really annoying. | ||
| Well, if you were like a crazy fuck and wanted to kill people, like Jason style, wouldn't you want to do it at this camp? | ||
| That seems so appropriate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a big thing in the UK now where they have kind of these zombie tour things or whatever, and it'll be in an old shopping center or something, and you'll pay to go and be part of it, and it will be all actors kind of just jumping out and chasing you as zombies, and you'll be living out the zombie apocalypse. | ||
| But again, all of that just feels, how many of those actors get punched in the face, or someone just reacting in panic and hurting people. | ||
| What they really need to do is make real zombies. | ||
| Like, have an artificial, real zombie. | ||
| Have, like, what you do is, you make, like, a fake person that's not really a person... | ||
| It's not a weird person. | ||
| It's dead. | ||
| You show it's got a shriveled-up brain, but it can move, and it comes at you like it's going to bite you, and you have a sword. | ||
| And there's hundreds of them, and it's like a new amusement park. | ||
| And this is when bioengineering gets to a really high level. | ||
| It's been said a million times, but the processor that you have in your phone was... | ||
| It's far greater than the processes that put people on the fucking moon. | ||
| So imagine what kind of technology they're having. | ||
| Today they're starting to develop all these artificial cells, artificial skin, they're going to develop artificial body parts. | ||
| It's going to get to a point where about a thousand years from now you're going to be able to make zombies. | ||
| Everyone's going to know. | ||
| It doesn't have a soul. | ||
| You can just chop this fucker up. | ||
| I'd be carrying a zombie donor card to say that when I die, definitely just turn me into a zombie. | ||
| But I'm saying artificial. | ||
| I want my family to have free access to it. | ||
| People are never going to allow that. | ||
| See, that's the difference. | ||
| What you're talking about is an actual person that becomes a zombie. | ||
| What I'm talking about is a constructed, artificial person that never had the potential to be an actual person. | ||
| It's made entirely in a factory. | ||
| There's no soul whatsoever, but it's made out of an artificial flesh with bones. | ||
| It moves at you and it's trying to bite you. | ||
| And what do you do? | ||
| You fucking sword fight this bitch. | ||
| On the notebook of people who are working on making clones and shit, how far down do you think clone artificial zombies is? | ||
| A lot of my ideas, especially my more poorly thought out ones, a lot of them require, like, some sort of a demise of civilization for them to be valid. | ||
| And this is one of them. | ||
| We would have to have some serious casualties. | ||
| We'd have to devalue life in a way where, like, today... | ||
| I like it as the answer, though, when people are against cloning and the dangers of it and they're not a real person and the risks of playing God, it's like, well, no, we... | ||
| They're zombies. | ||
| We're only going to make them... | ||
| We're not going to have them thinking and acting. | ||
| Cloning's alright as long as we're making brain-dead zombies, essentially. | ||
| Well, if we really just decided to start cloning people, that would be a huge issue. | ||
| Could you imagine if people just decided they wanted to make more Scroobies pips? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What if they got a hold of your DNA and they made a bunch of them and you didn't even realize they did that until they were like 15 or 16 and then you made them? | ||
| And you're an older man and you're meeting yourself at 15. There's like 20 of you and you're like, what the fuck? | ||
| I'm not even responsible for my own self growing up. | ||
| And they come in there to wipe you out. | ||
| Yeah, and they're using your name. | ||
| They can be only one. | ||
| They're all Joe Rogans, a ton of Joe Rogans. | ||
| House of Cosby's. | ||
| They all look exactly like you. | ||
| They all have your fingerprints. | ||
| Is that what the real Rick Ross and Rick Ross thing actually is? | ||
| Is it a clone thing? | ||
| No, they don't look alike at all. | ||
| The real Rick Ross is actually quite lean. | ||
| Goddammit. | ||
| The fake Rick Ross is the one. | ||
| If cloning came about and you had the choice of doing it yourself, would that be of any... | ||
| Why would I want to clone myself? | ||
| I don't see how I'd benefit from that. | ||
| It'd just be me. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't get it, but if it came about, surely you'd have the rights to your own DNA. Surely that'd be a key thing, rather than me finding out and bumping into a script. | ||
| It'd have to be, I would have made that happen. | ||
| But you would find out that when you signed your terms of use, when you got your iPhone, that you gave up your right to clone yourself, and that they own you. | ||
| So every time you use your phone, a little bit of your DNA gets in you from your earwax, gets into the speaker, and then you turn them in, and then they just make copies of you. | ||
| It'll be some scam that they expose on CNN or something. | ||
| They're making iPhones. | ||
| They're taking iPhones and then using them as DNA collectors. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're making copies of Scroogey's Pip. | ||
| Goddammit. | ||
| Well, I think we're going to wonder at one point in time, we're going to wonder what is an acceptable way to consider how to engineer our civilization both as our society, like how we govern ourselves, how we have laws, how we distribute money, and then also how we breed. | ||
| There's going to come a point in time when people become super, super intelligent, far removed from this weird sort of ape-like situation we find ourselves in today. | ||
| And if they get to that point one day, they'll be like, look, how much should we be investing our intellectual time into actively breeding people the way we do every other animal that we have under our control? | ||
| I mean, the way we breed cows, the way we breed dogs, should we just keep doing this whole thing on love, or should we just love everybody and breed according to the best way possible to enhance the human race? | ||
| But surely that would, in turn, just involve cutting down breeding hugely, because surely the biggest problem of the human race is that there's far too many of us to fit on this silly planet. | ||
| With that boiling pot of having far too many of us, it sort of highlights the reason why that would be a terrible idea, because there's so many variables that make society awesome, and all of them come from completely different realities. | ||
| The variable of the computer geek is a very different reality than the variable of a pro football player. | ||
| And all these variables, and biological variables too, as far as the way your body works, might lead you in one direction or another. | ||
| Lead your desires. | ||
| And that's what makes this whole world so fucking cool and crazy in the first place. | ||
| So could you imagine if we got so far advanced that we decided to start genetically engineering? | ||
| Selecting the end goal straight away rather than everything that can influence. | ||
| Yeah, and in doing so we lost all art. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We lost all of it. | ||
| Because it's not functional. | ||
| Well, because everybody's perfect. | ||
| Everyone's perfect. | ||
| No one has any emotions. | ||
| Everyone's rational and logical. | ||
| There's no more art. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| We're super advanced. | ||
| No art and no strippers. | ||
| It's killer. | ||
| Well, we'd have robot strippers. | ||
| And then we would slowly start to devolve and people enjoyed robot strippers more than they enjoyed meditation classes. | ||
| Memory injection, they're not real. | ||
| You just have a Netflix of memories like, oh, I just fucked that stripper. | ||
| Well, I think there's definitely going to be a time where you're going to be able to download memories. | ||
| I think that is without a doubt what we're seeing with these Google Glasses. | ||
| What you're seeing is the beginning. | ||
| You could take photos with Google Glass, right? | ||
| You could look at things, you could take photos. | ||
| Well, if you can look at things and take photos, what are you doing when you're taking a photo? | ||
| You're capturing time. | ||
| You're capturing a moment. | ||
| It's just not the best version of it, but it's way better than a painting, and that's how they used to capture time. | ||
| Everything that's here now, pulling it into a little... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But it's very two-dimensional. | ||
| It's right in front of you. | ||
| Well, it'll eventually become three-dimensional, and then one day, it'll be immersive. | ||
| One day you'll be able to record and not just record a single image, like this is the baby steps. | ||
| One day, you know, this is like when people first started to figure out a fire, you know, and what that led to is the combustion engine. | ||
| I mean, think about that, all the way up to plane travel. | ||
| It was figure out fire, all the other shit comes up after it. | ||
| What we're seeing now, by being able to take a photograph with the glasses, we're capturing time in a very rudimentary way, but really For us, amazing. | ||
| Well, one day, we're going to be able to capture everything about it. | ||
| The way your seat feels, the way your hands are sweaty, the way your beard itches, the way your clothes fit. | ||
| You're going to be in that life. | ||
| So you'll be able to take someone's memory and just run whatever it is, you know, an hour program, a two-hour program. | ||
| People will be able to upload their sexual exploits. | ||
| I mean, that's going to be legit. | ||
| We should remove the point of needing a memory as such. | ||
| Because if you can just access it all, it'd kill our ability to actually remember stuff because you don't need to anymore. | ||
| The same as how Google already... | ||
| And now there's so much that you don't need to learn or take in because you can really quickly see who was in that film and what else he was in. | ||
| There's that kind of instant thing. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I think the first thing that's going to happen is there's going to be a search of your memory starting from a certain period of time where you're going to be able to access what you had said in the past or did in the past. | ||
| And it's going to be more searchable to the point where I go, what did I say last night around 10 o'clock? | ||
| You said at 10.01, blah, blah, blah, while standing at this location. | ||
| And you know what I mean? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're going to have Google for yourself. | ||
| Yeah, you'll be able to ask it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which you did, and you'll be able to pull it up. | ||
| It's going to ruin the fun of arguments, though, right? | ||
| When you can accurately say, no, here's what you actually said. | ||
| This isn't... | ||
| Rather than, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I didn't say... | ||
| I never said that. | ||
| I meant... | ||
| What I said was this. | ||
| No, let's rewind. | ||
| Where were you last night? | ||
| That's the next logical progression, right? | ||
| Because Google's already ruined the bullshitters' argument. | ||
| When people bullshit about stuff, you go, wait a minute, let me Google that. | ||
| Bitch, that's not true. | ||
| How many of those conversations have happened since Google where those guys would have been insufferable fucks forever? | ||
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| Completely. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I always enjoy it in football or soccer, as you guys insist on calling it. | ||
| We don't insist on calling it anything. | ||
| We wish it would go away. | ||
| That ball would pop. | ||
| These white people in America would stop pretending they like soccer to appear more interesting. | ||
| Hipsters. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| For years, they were pushing for goal line technology and all this to see if a goal definitely happened. | ||
| And the main guy in charge, his argument for not having it was... | ||
| One of the best things about this sport is arguing over that shit. | ||
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And I love that. | |
| I love that as a kind of... | ||
| I was like, that's the best logical reason I've heard. | ||
| That it's better not knowing exactly. | ||
| Like, it's a referee's decision and then the next day you're like, that clearly went over the line. | ||
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This is... | |
| That's great. | ||
| That's part of sport. | ||
| That's a big thing in baseball. | ||
| You shouldn't have it all perfect. | ||
| In baseball, it's so boring, but they love to argue when someone's safe or out, and they'll fucking play that foot touching that bag a hundred times, and the guy catching the ball and the foot touching the bag, they'll play that shit over and over and over again. | ||
| That's a terrible call by the referee. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| From my point of view, I think it was the right call. | ||
| If technology is just saying, no, here's the answer, that was out. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It takes all the fun out of it. | ||
| It takes a little bit of the fun out of it, especially goofy sports. | ||
| It's a strange thing, our obsession with scoring. | ||
| We have a built-in need for war and a built-in need to conquer and a built-in need to form tribes, to go on after other tribes. | ||
| We figured out a way to do it peaceably. | ||
| Through sport, you know, through organized, high-level athletic competitions. | ||
| We have our team takes on your team, and if we win, we drink, and we run through the streets, woo-hoo! | ||
| Do you think there's then an intentional thing in sports? | ||
| Like, I mean, in MMA, everyone talks about, is the 10-point must system the right system? | ||
| Do you think there's an active thing of, well, yeah, because everyone's having this discussion and talking about it and engaging about this fight, rather than, oh, you know, it'd be best if we actually knew who won and who won. | ||
| The problem with that is sometimes the scoring system is so bad and so ineffective that it leaves everyone feeling like they get robbed. | ||
| You see, I think the scoring system works. | ||
| It's just you need better understanding from the judges and from the... | ||
| I think, again, almost any system, if it's clear enough and the people understand it, then it works. | ||
| I agree with you in some ways, but I also think that it's just not a comprehensive enough system to have 10 points. | ||
| Because MMA is not one sport. | ||
| See, if it's boxing, the thing about boxing is, did this guy use his hands better or did that guy use his hands better? | ||
| This guy did. | ||
| Well, then he wins. | ||
| Look, he scored 100 punches. | ||
| Five of them were this, and 10 were that, and 30 were that. | ||
| And you go over these statistics, and it's kind of clear who got the round. | ||
| It's not hard to figure out. | ||
| But when you start factoring in things like takedowns, and then things like leg kicks, and things like submission attempts, and you have it quantify... | ||
| What's more important? | ||
| Whether it's the strike or the takedown, what's more important? | ||
| Is it more important this guy landed five punches, or is it more important that that guy took the other guy down and held onto him and did nothing? | ||
| And different people are going to have different opinions. | ||
| It's very subjective. | ||
| And when you're dealing with something like a 10-point system, one guy's going to get 10, one guy's going to get 9. It's very screwy. | ||
| You need more. | ||
| You need a scoring for grappling. | ||
| So scoring all the way across each one. | ||
| Yeah, there should be a score for everything that happens in the round, and there should be 10-9 for each event. | ||
| If they're standing up, 10-9, Jon Jones controlled the stand-up. | ||
| But then Jon got it to the ground, and it was 10-6, because he almost submitted him, beat the shit out of him, controlled him. | ||
| When it came to takedown defense, this guy got that. | ||
| You could have it like that and then count up the score. | ||
| But then that would be tough if they're on the ground for a small amount of time, but that time they were on the ground, this guy scored that guy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then if they've got 10-6 for that, that was like 30 seconds. | ||
| No, because if a guy goes to the ground and it's only for a few seconds, it's not going to mean anything. | ||
| You have to have a submission attempt for it to mean something. | ||
| So if the guy just went to the ground and got back up, it'd probably be a 9-9. | ||
| If a guy takes you down and get back up, and you get immediately back up, it'd maybe not be even, but it's pretty close to even. | ||
| I just think that if a judge is properly educated on it, then they'll be able to come closer and take all that into account and know that that takedown, there were three takedowns, but he didn't do anything while he was down, or they got up straight away. | ||
| And I think if there's a greater education on the judges, they'd be able to work that system. | ||
| I wish I was English just so I could say straight away and say it like normal and proper. | ||
| And that's a proper fight. | ||
| No, you're right, but I just think there's not enough variables. | ||
| Or I think there's too many variables, rather, and not enough accounting for those variables in the current scoring system. | ||
| So why is it that they bring Herb Dean and all these great refs into each of these places, yet it tends to be the judges are more a local thing and local... | ||
| Why couldn't they have the same they have with the judges, a kind of elite, here's the 10 best judges who are specialist MMA, not doing boxing one weekend and kickboxing or wrestling another weekend, only do MMA and therefore be more... | ||
| Well, that's the local athletic commissions have the say on who gets to referee, who gets to judge. | ||
| And it's an issue that we deal with when we fight, when we have events in certain places that don't have a lot of high-level fights. | ||
| And so you'll have local judges that were appointed by the commissions, and they're on television, and they're doing a terrible fucking job. | ||
| And they do things like they get too involved, they have two big egos, so they get in the way of the action, they tell guys to fight, and the guys are fighting. | ||
| They become a distraction. | ||
| Enforcing the rules. | ||
| But that seems to happen a lot less. | ||
| It seems to be they'll tend to choose the bigger refs. | ||
| For big events. | ||
| For big events. | ||
| It's critical. | ||
| If you have a big fight, you want an Yves Levine, you want Herb Dean, you want Josh Rosenthal before he went to jail. | ||
| You want big John McCarthy. | ||
| You want somebody who's not going to fuck up. | ||
| Mark Goddard in the UK. He's great. | ||
| I did his course on his seminar on refereeing and judging. | ||
| And I think he's just, yeah. | ||
| Mark's great. | ||
| He's got such a good, similar to Herb, in the calmness in the cage of knowing that, yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of good guys now. | ||
| He's in control. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a hard gig. | ||
| It's a very hard gig. | ||
| It's very difficult to make the right decision, and you have to be on top of the action. | ||
| You can't let someone get hurt, but you also can't stop a fight too soon, and you have to be very knowledgeable. | ||
| There's a lot going on there. | ||
| It's a very, very stressful position that doesn't get a lot of reward. | ||
| People don't appreciate when they're really good, but they get very upset if they're bad. | ||
| And it's an easy job for everyone that isn't doing it. | ||
| It's easy to sit there and go, ah, there you go, that's... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's absolutely true. | ||
| But that's true with a lot of things. | ||
| Watching it from the outside, it looks like it would be easy. | ||
| But doing that is way harder than what I do. | ||
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| What I do is tricky, but it's not nearly as hard as being a referee. | ||
| I think that's way harder. | ||
| Those guys, people get mad at them, man. | ||
| They stop fights too soon. | ||
| Dudes push them. | ||
| Guys fucking scream at them. | ||
| And they have to be able to control shit too, you know? | ||
| Like when things are going down and if guys won't get off of each other and they won't stop hitting each other, that's why I get nervous when I see female referees and big men. | ||
| Do you think experience in the cage is key for a referee? | ||
| Because again, I always feel the people that have actually fought or have trained on judging or refereeing, surely that would benefit... | ||
| Your ability to know when someone needs helping or needs protecting rather than having not experienced it and kind of being outside on it. | ||
| I think that's a good point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think most definitely having some high-level training. | ||
| Most definitely. | ||
| Understanding when a guy's in a bad position, like when a guy's neck is about to get hurt, when a guy's arm is about to snap. | ||
| When Herb Dean stopped the Tim Sylvia versus Frank Mir, Frank Mir broke his arm. | ||
| And Herb jumped in and stopped. | ||
| He heard the snap and he stepped in and stopped the action. | ||
| And Tim didn't know when he wasn't tapping. | ||
| Yeah, he wasn't tapping and he was still trying to keep fighting. | ||
| He knew something wrong with his arm, but he didn't know exactly what it was. | ||
| I mean, that's because Herb has grappled, he's fought MMA, he's a very high-level martial artist himself. | ||
| So he knew there was a bad situation. | ||
| But say if that was someone who had never trained and maybe was out of shape, And just didn't recognize it. | ||
| That guy's arm could have got fucked up really badly. | ||
| Because if Frank kept yanking on it, he would have kept yanking on it. | ||
| He wasn't going to let that fucking thing go. | ||
| He could have torn through the skin. | ||
| It could have been a compound fracture. | ||
| It could have been really, really, really ugly. | ||
| And I guess it is a compound fracture when they both break. | ||
| But when they puncture through the skin, that's another level of severity because you have to worry about infections. | ||
| It's super dangerous. | ||
| And that could easily happen if you got the wrong guy who's reffing a fight. | ||
| Tough job. | ||
| Leon Roberts is another UK guy. | ||
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| Yeah, he's great. | ||
| He's excellent. | ||
| There's a lot of good guys that are doing it now. | ||
| There's a lot of good guys. | ||
| There's a large group of people that sort of grew up being MMA fans and got involved in smaller shows and became a trusted referee. | ||
| But the gold standard is always like John McCarthy, Herb Dean. | ||
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Those are the gold standard. | |
| And Rosenthal was great too, man. | ||
| Unfortunately, he went to jail. | ||
| For that weed, son. | ||
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Slanging that weed up in Northern California. | |
| Apparently he had some pistolas he's not supposed to have. | ||
| They had to penalize. | ||
| It's no good. | ||
| Robbed of a good judge. | ||
| Yeah, it sucked because he's a cool dude. | ||
| Yeah, he's a cool dude too. | ||
| I mean, I hope when he gets out of jail they recognize that it wasn't a violent crime and they... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They reinstate him. | ||
| But, you know, dude's in jail for like over a year for weed. | ||
| But, you know, I don't know what you're... | ||
| I guess it's like if you're selling medical marijuana, it's legal state-wise, but it's not legal federally. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I guess you could still get busted for it federally. | ||
| But he wasn't even doing that. | ||
| He was just slinging weed. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There was no federal involved who's, like, getting paid, selling plants, which I support, 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm tired. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| It's unbelievably stupid that it's possible to lock someone in a cage for selling plants in 2010. It's dumb as fuck. | ||
| I don't care if it's written on a piece of paper. | ||
| It's dumb as fuck. | ||
| Selling plants to people who want them plants and grown-ups and adults and... | ||
| Should he have guns on them? | ||
| No. | ||
| Probably shouldn't have illegal guns on them. | ||
| That I agree with. | ||
| I mean, that part's harder to argue. | ||
| I'm not arguing that part. | ||
| The guns, not so much. | ||
| But yeah, I get that. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, it's just so sad. | ||
| And one day they're going to look back and they're going to realize how unbelievably stupid we were when it came to our drug policies. | ||
| Unbelievably stupid. | ||
| Like we took the most beneficial, the least harmful ones and we made them the most illegal and put people in jail for the longest amount of time for those. | ||
| It's the perception of it as well. | ||
| I always remember when I was younger and I was smoking a lot of weed and doing a lot of acid and shit like that. | ||
| Good times. | ||
| Yeah, good times. | ||
| And reading Tim F. Leary's thing of when he was saying how the way society looks at drugs is legal or not legal. | ||
| His argument was it should be treated like a car. | ||
| If you want to buy acid, you pass a test, you get your license, you... | ||
| Basically prove that you're intelligent and of sound mind enough to enjoy this and then you go and buy it. | ||
| Not because the one drug we've got in alcohol, it's just you pay money and that's that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Anyone can have it. | ||
| It's kind of, yeah, I loved that the first time I read that of the small-mindedness of the way we approach it when there's millions of ways to approach the legalisation of every drug. | ||
| Well, it's also very strange when we arbitrarily decide that one drug, regardless of its impact on people's health and well-being and crimes committed under the influence of it, which is like one of the most devastating ones, alcohol, and we make that our primary drug. | ||
| And we just decide. | ||
| That's the one. | ||
| That's our drug. | ||
| I'm behind that one. | ||
| If you're going to do that, if you're dealing with a sophisticated, intelligent civilization like the UK, like the United States of America, like the Western world in the year 2014, you're dealing with people that have just previously impossible levels of access to information. | ||
| It's unparalleled access to information. | ||
| It's never in human history. | ||
| And yet, in the face of this, in the face of this overwhelming evidence, you're choosing to To put people in cages for plants. | ||
| That's unconscionable. | ||
| It's intolerable. | ||
| It's because we've known it for so long that it's just acceptable. | ||
| It's the same as we were saying earlier with religion, of how ludicrous it is, but because it's been there for so long, it's accepted. | ||
| It's exactly the same with that. | ||
| But I think it's changing. | ||
| If that didn't happen, and a politician came in and said, what we're going to do is we're going to put humans in cages... | ||
| And people would go absolutely mental. | ||
| That didn't already exist. | ||
| If that was a new thing, they'd be like, the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| You're not putting people in cages for plants. | ||
| He's violated drug policy number 65290. He has more than one gram of marijuana on him for personal consumption. | ||
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Get in that fucking cage, hippie. | |
| Didn't they just change it in Brooklyn? | ||
| Didn't they just make weed legal in Brooklyn? | ||
| Medical, I think, yes. | ||
| I don't think so, man. | ||
| Medical in New York, but I think they made edibles legal? | ||
| Really? | ||
| Where? | ||
| In New York. | ||
| Edibles are legal in New York. | ||
| Marijuana in New York. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| I like hearing that shit. | ||
| Florida was the opposite. | ||
| Everyone told me it's so bad if they find a seed in your car, they will get you. | ||
| Yeah, they'll fuck with you in Florida, dude. | ||
| They only want cocaine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's a medical marijuana state as of July 5th of 2014. So you can get medical weed in New York. | ||
| Good! | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| How is this 2014 it's happened? | ||
| Especially the medical, which is by the way a Trojan horse. | ||
| But especially the medical, because the medical is, you can't argue against it. | ||
| People have interocular pressure from glaucoma, it cures them, it helps relieve pain. | ||
| It helps regain the appetite of people that are suffering from AIDS and on chemotherapy. | ||
| It's like there's so many benefits. | ||
| It's impossible to argue medically. | ||
| How long do you think it will be before it just spreads over the country? | ||
| Because it seems that it works. | ||
| Everywhere it's gone, right? | ||
| It's worked and it's good for the economy. | ||
| The best shit is when we get the people in Iowa high. | ||
| That's going to make the world a way better place. | ||
| All those tense dudes who are out there deer hunting. | ||
| Get those guys high. | ||
| It's a perspective-enhancing moment. | ||
| That's what's going on here, folks. | ||
| Do I mean that everybody needs to get high? | ||
| No, I don't really mean that everyone needs to get high. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| If you're a happy person the way you are, keep on keeping on, son. | ||
| But the idea that people can't benefit from something that people have clearly benefited from, not just benefited from, but have stated over and over again that they've benefited from it. | ||
| You don't hear that about a lot of other drugs. | ||
| This is a great drug. | ||
| I benefit from several different drugs. | ||
| Like caffeine. | ||
| I benefit from caffeine. | ||
| We don't like to think of it as a drug, but that's a drug. | ||
| It's an absolute drug, and I like it. | ||
| I love coffee. | ||
| Marijuana is a very beneficial drug. | ||
| There's a lot of great aspects to it. | ||
| Can it be abused? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Everything can be abused. | ||
| Every single thing. | ||
| Food can be abused. | ||
| But as grown-ups, that should be a choice that you can make, right? | ||
| It's just about being a disciplined grown-up. | ||
| I mean, I stopped smoking like... | ||
| I haven't had any marijuana in over 10 years now, but it just wasn't working out for me personally. | ||
| But that doesn't mean, again, I'm still very pro, as I think everyone should try, or it's positive to try all these things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and the idea that everyone is going to respond exactly the same way to any given substance, whether it's aspirin or marijuana. | ||
| I mean, there's a reason why some people are allergic to some things and other people enjoy, like shrimp. | ||
| Some people eat shrimp and they'll get sick as fuck. | ||
| I love shrimp. | ||
| It's delicious. | ||
| Make it illegal. | ||
| It's dangerous. | ||
| They don't have to make it illegal. | ||
| I mean, there's a good percentage of the population that's allergic to shellfish. | ||
| It's a fairly common allergy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if they had chosen the same sort of ideas that they have on like marijuana addiction, this is one that they love to throw around, marijuana addiction. | ||
| I would like to put marijuana addiction next to shellfish allergy and see which one is more common. | ||
| Because I bet shellfish allergy is way more fucking common than marijuana. | ||
| And so the idea of making it illegal because one tiny percentage of the population gets physically addicted to it. | ||
| Well, I don't know what's going on in their body. | ||
| They might be physically addicted. | ||
| But for me, I know I can stop and not have weed for weeks and I don't feel any physical pain. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
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Crazy. | |
| I've taken two weeks off and had nothing. | ||
| Not felt a thing. | ||
| Not an urge. | ||
| Not just a living life. | ||
| There's no want. | ||
| There's no itch that you can't scratch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's weird that we have these arbitrary decisions that get made a long time ago and that they stick just because someone wrote them somewhere. | ||
| We're so goofy like that. | ||
| It's protecting against addictive personalities, I guess, or physical addiction, but people will have that for anything. | ||
| Did you see the New York Times said that, you know, they did a New York Times editorial saying that marijuana should be decriminalized? | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Nationwide. | ||
| And the government had a response to the New York Times that was so goofy. | ||
| And it included all this shit about children, about affecting the brains of children. | ||
| Like, no one's saying give pot to fucking children. | ||
| Did you even listen? | ||
| They didn't even read the editorial. | ||
| The editorial's about adults, informed adults should be allowed to smoke marijuana. | ||
| And the government's thing, like the response was all about kids. | ||
| It's like you goofy fake babysitters. | ||
| You don't give a fuck about kids. | ||
| You guys aren't in the hood. | ||
| You guys aren't in the hood saving babies. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| You're not looking after kids. | ||
| It's not hurting kids. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| No one's saying kids should go get high. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Goofy fucks. | ||
| But that's the kind of people that are responsible. | ||
| That's the kind of people that are responsible for our laws. | ||
| But who's saving the kids from shellfish? | ||
| Who's out there fighting that battle? | ||
| Peanuts are a big one, man. | ||
| Nuts-free schools. | ||
| My daughter goes to a nut-free school. | ||
| Why do they still have nuts on airplanes? | ||
| Like, they still do it. | ||
| Why wouldn't they just switch to Cheez-Its or something? | ||
| Like, why is it nuts anyways? | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
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Nuts are delicious. | |
| Is there something with nuts and flies? | ||
| There's tons of things like that, though. | ||
| Like the realization... | ||
| Making me want nuts. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| Come over here, boy. | ||
| A comedian was talking about how come when epilepsy came about, we didn't go, all right, we don't need strobe lights then. | ||
| Strobe lights aren't a necessary... | ||
| Oh, that could kill you. | ||
| Send you into a fit. | ||
| Let's get rid of them. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| They're not necessarily like, no, we need to party with strobe lights. | ||
| My friend Jim, his wife would black out. | ||
| She would see one of those animated GIFs online. | ||
| Just put them somewhere else. | ||
| I thought he was fucking around. | ||
| Do you remember that guy, Jim, from the message board? | ||
| He put some warning up, saying, hey, you guys take down these fucking strobes. | ||
| And then, of course, everybody changed their avatar to a strobe. | ||
| Like, fuck off. | ||
| Of course they did. | ||
| Maybe just shut off avatars instead of killing the party. | ||
| If you didn't know that you were going to see something and if you saw it, it would black you out, you'd have to be really careful about your viewing habits. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Too many people die. | ||
| You shouldn't do that, man. | ||
| That's rude as fuck. | ||
| That's going to bring the aliens back if you do that. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| They're going to come back and land. | ||
| It's a secret signal. | ||
| There were some radio signals they just found in the galaxy recently. | ||
| Fascinating. | ||
| New radio signals found in the galaxy. | ||
| And people are speculating as to whether or not it's aliens. | ||
| What's it sound like? | ||
| Does it sound like static? | ||
| I don't think it's like a sound. | ||
| I think it's like a signal. | ||
| Radio waves emitted from nearby galaxy. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, that's interesting shit, man. | ||
| July 10th. | ||
| Mysterious signal from a galaxy far, far away. | ||
| Brief pulse detected by the Arecibo telescope appears to come from far beyond our galaxy. | ||
| Could be caused by evaporating black holes or mergers of neutron stars. | ||
| Or aliens. | ||
| Could be aliens. | ||
| Could it be aliens? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There's a chance. | ||
| They could be trying to reach us. | ||
| It could be a chance. | ||
| Did you see that video that somebody shared it to me on Twitter where they can take sound waves off video of like a plant and Like map it out and it will recreate what the sound was when that video is recorded. | ||
| Yeah, well they can use a Doritos bag. | ||
| Yeah, Doritos bag. | ||
| You saw that video. | ||
| That was nuts. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| So if you're in a room and say like you're talking and you have like a Doritos bag there, like a light piece of paper, they can focus on that and the impact of your voice on that Doritos bag, they can detect what you were saying. | ||
| They can detect the sounds. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Let's see if I can find that video. | ||
| That is the mind blower of the week's mind blowers. | ||
| We were getting excited about cameras earlier. | ||
| That's fucking insane. | ||
| How much smarter are those people than me? | ||
| They're so much smarter. | ||
| That's not even a human. | ||
| Anybody that can figure that out, when I think about my potential for figuring things out and their potential for figuring things out, The tools that they have, the steps that they are ahead, I could live a hundred lives and never even catch up to where they are. | ||
| Never even get close. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| When people want to pretend that all people are created equal, why don't you pay attention? | ||
| There's some motherfuckers out there that are getting sound off Doritos bags. | ||
| And guess what, fuckface? | ||
| They're smarter than you. | ||
| Their brains work better. | ||
| The results of this video are the best experience through headphones. | ||
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When sound hits an object, it causes that object to vibrate. | |
| The motion of this vibration creates a subtle visual signal that's usually invisible to the naked eye. | ||
| In our work, we show how using only a video of the object and a suitable processing algorithm, we can extract these minute vibrations and partially recover the sounds that produced them, letting us turn everyday visible objects into visual microphones. | ||
| In the silent high-speed video shown here on the left, we see the leaves of a potted plant shown on the right. | ||
| The video was recorded while a nearby loudspeaker played the notes to Mary had a little lamb. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
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So now what they're gonna do, they record it with the sound and they're gonna play it back using- Even when we play the video in slow motion here, the vibrations caused by the music are so subtle that they move the plants leaves by less than a hundredth of a pixel, making the plant appear still to the naked eye. | |
| But by combining and filtering all the tiny motion happening across the image that you see, we are able to recover this sound. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| So in the future we're going to be able to take old video and find out what we're really talking about with JFK or something. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| We recovered live human speech from high speed video of a bag of chips lying on the ground. | ||
| But to make things a little more challenging, this time we put the camera outside, behind a soundproof window. | ||
| This is what a cell phone was able to record from inside, next to the bag of chips. | ||
| Mary had a little lamb whose fleece was white as snow. | ||
| And everywhere that Mary went, that lamb was sure to go. | ||
| And this is what we were able to recover from high-speed video, filmed from outside, behind soundproof glass. | ||
| Every while in this man, you see what's white as snow. | ||
| And everywhere that Mary went, that man was That's haunting. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's ridiculous, right? | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| What that's going to happen is we're going to be able to take old home movies, especially like the 8mm kind that's like no sound that you used to have in the 70s. | ||
| We're going to be able to eventually probably take that and actually recreate the sound of everything that was going on. | ||
| Well, how could that be possible? | ||
| No, but it's not filmed at the same resolution. | ||
| Well, as an example, they're going to show it now at a very lower resolution at this part of the video. | ||
| And this is early on, so I think in the future they're going to be able to get it to the point of being able to do that. | ||
| Because here's what they can do with just a typical camera. | ||
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Like a laptop? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
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Which can record thousands of frames in most consumer cameras. | |
| Here we go. | ||
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We can sometimes actually recover sound at frequencies several times higher than the frame rate of our video, letting us recover audio from video captured on regular consumer cameras. | |
| Whoa! | ||
| Here we see a 60 frames per second video of a bag of candy captured on a regular consumer DSLR while our Mary had a little land music played through a nearby loudspeaker. | ||
| I love this tune. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| And 60 frames is like half the speed that like the iPhone can do. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's in fucking sane, man. | ||
| This is so strange. | ||
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By using a variation of our technique on the rows of the recorded video, we were able to recover this audio, which includes frequencies more than five times higher than the frame rate of our camera. | |
| So yeah... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Expect new crazy ghosts in the future from the past. | ||
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What a weird, weird world we live in, man. | |
| What a weird world. | ||
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That someone can figure that out. | |
| That someone can try to figure that out in the first place is just insane. | ||
| Just the actual thing of having the idea and perception of thinking of that is just... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's a real game changer, right? | ||
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Wow. | |
| So humbling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I really feel, when I see something like that, that we're very fortunate in the time that we live that we're going to get to see these things. | ||
| That we're a part of this insane moment in history where things are becoming so complicated so quickly, so powerful so quickly. | ||
| The impact of them, the impact of people's words, it's incredible. | ||
| Never been in time like this, man. | ||
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It's amazing. | |
| The speed of it all is insane. | ||
| The speed we went from the invention of the internet, which is putting everyone in the world in touch with everyone else, and then the speed we went from that to turning it into something that we just look at tits on and tweet people and talk shit. | ||
| The speed which we've just become comfortable with is amazing... | ||
| Piece of technology that we should be using to find out amazing things constantly, but 90% of the time, we've got so comfortable with it because it's just on your phone now. | ||
| It's not this great jump in technology. | ||
| Well, we take it for granted while it's doing its work. | ||
| And it's doing its work, and its work is connecting all of us. | ||
| I mean, we're connected in some really bizarre ways now, man. | ||
| That's uh, I mean what we're seeing on this the screen we're watching this video. | ||
| That's a Fascinating new thing an amazing new thing But it's probably one of like a million new things that are coming out that are gonna freak us the fuck out You know all this stuff is essentially magic It's crazy how they'll freak us out for like a minute. | ||
| And then it would just be regular and then it's just fine. | ||
| Then it's going to be an app. | ||
| That shit will be an app on your phone in two years. | ||
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Completely. | |
| It's creating time travel but using it like a weird like old VCR type kind of technology where we're going to be recreating everything that's ever happened. | ||
| God, that's so crazy. | ||
| Based on tree DNA or something. | ||
| So weird, man. | ||
| Yeah, you're going to be Be able to watch an outdoor video and stare at the trees and listen to the actual voices that the people were saying while they were near those trees. | ||
| Well, not only that, they'll probably be able to do things digitally to change the resolution of things. | ||
| Probably some sort of an algorithm where they'll be able to analyze each individual pixel and enhance in post the camera's reaction to the image and change it and enhance it. | ||
| I love the idea that this technology could come about, though, but the foible of it would be they have to be near a plant or a Doritos packet. | ||
| We've had these great moments in history, but it wasn't next to a plant. | ||
| Fuck, we'll never know what Jack can say. | ||
| Where would a safe place be? | ||
| Would it be underwater? | ||
| Or would it? | ||
| No, would it? | ||
| Imagine if they figured out a way. | ||
| That would be worse. | ||
| Imagine if they figured out a way to... | ||
| I'm going to watch what I say around Doritos packets from now on, though. | ||
| I don't want to... | ||
| In case I'm picked up. | ||
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No shit, man. | |
| Stay away from Doritos. | ||
| Imagine if they figure out a way to recreate old historical videos and actually make them, like a part of the Oculus Rift, make them like super high resolution, calculate them based on all that, like say if they took the Kennedy assassination. | ||
| And they calculated it on all known photographs of the area. | ||
| They did a very comprehensive analysis. | ||
| They, in detail, every photo of Kennedy's face ever taken, every photo of Jackie O ever taken, every inch of one of those crazy limousines that Kennedy was driving in, the convertible limousines, every inch of it. | ||
| And then they put you in a virtual reality where you're at the scene. | ||
| And you got to watch the Zapruder film play out. | ||
| Like, right there. | ||
| Like, you're there. | ||
| You're looking at Zapruder holding the camera. | ||
| And, you know, you can move around on it. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| And it sounds like this... | ||
| You know, like, because the sound's from reflections of, like... | ||
| Yeah, they'll figure out a way to... | ||
| Yeah, you'll... | ||
| I wonder if you'll ever be able to accurately, like, replay the voices. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| But the recreations of historical events in three dimension in virtual reality is inevitable. | ||
| Like, I mean, if people are making paintings of Nixon, they're definitely going to make like a virtual reality scenario where he gets shot at the theater. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You get to see John Wilkes Booth sneak up behind him and shoot him. | ||
| They're going to have that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, historical events. | ||
| Any known historical events, you know? | ||
| I'm writing a story or song or whatever at the moment about a guy that gets a chance, meets some kind of god or whatever, but gets told you can have one truth and you've got to pick everything throughout history. | ||
| Like, you could pick to know what happened with JFK or to know if Jesus was real or whatever. | ||
| and just what what would that one I mean in this story he ends up going through all of that and then asking if his girlfriend cheated on him because that's the reality that's the reality that's the truth that you'd ask and need to know but what what the fuck would you it's weird because jfk is one that i always come to and i'm not american i've got no i think it's just because it's such a conspiracy theory that i want to know the actual truth yeah amazing I think the actual truth would be interesting, but I'm pretty convinced of a conspiracy when it came to JFK. | ||
| I've seen the evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, and one of the things that I don't find compelling is that there was obviously some, the Warren Commission had a predetermined conclusion that they wanted to reach, and that was that there was a lone gunman. | ||
| And they wanted to reach it so badly that they ignored evidence to the contrary and even concocted crazy stories like the magic bullet theory. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They only did that because they had to account for a bullet that hit an underpass and ricocheted, so they had to account. | ||
| They had to make all these wounds come out of one bullet because they know there was only three shots from Coswell. | ||
| The only reason why they did it is to wrap up. | ||
| It wasn't like a scientific analysis like they looked at it all. | ||
| It was done by Orrin Hatch. | ||
| He's a... | ||
| Was it Orrin Hatch? | ||
| I think it was. | ||
| Single Bullet Theory? | ||
| I want to say it was him. | ||
| It was one of those fucking weirdos from the... | ||
| Remember when Anita Hill and Clarence Thomas? | ||
| Do you know who Anita Hill is? | ||
| Clarence Thomas is a Supreme Court Justice. | ||
| When they were trying to appoint him, there was this crazy story that came out. | ||
| He told this woman, Anita Hill, this really sexy black chick, he told her that there's a pubic hair and her coke. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Did you ever find out Coke, like sales went up during that time? | ||
| Or was it like Pepsi sales? | ||
| I bet that'd be fascinating. | ||
| I wonder, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, pubic hair makes me want to buy Pepsi. | ||
| Arlen Specter. | ||
| Sorry, that's who he was. | ||
| It wasn't Orrin Hatch. | ||
| It was Arlen Specter. | ||
| But I think Orrin Hatch was involved in it as well. | ||
| But Arlen Specter was just like this known creeper. | ||
| He was just one of those guys that had been around. | ||
| He was a Democrat, switched to a Republican, then switched back to Democrat. | ||
| He was just a shifty fucking character. | ||
| And he was the one who came up with the single bullet theory. | ||
| He was the guy. | ||
| It was his idea. | ||
| Why would you say one bullet just went fucking nutty? | ||
| It's crazy that they would even consider trying shit like that on something that's clearly the biggest case. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| It's going to be the most scrutinised thing. | ||
| It's equally insane that they would think, yeah, that'll do. | ||
| We'll tell the people that... | ||
| But it did work. | ||
| I mean, there's people that argue it today, so they were right. | ||
| Whether or not they were right or not, I'm not sure, but they were right that people would accept the fact that this one bullet did all the damage. | ||
| I mean, it's so preposterous in so many different ways. | ||
| I have conversations with people, but you can't deny the actual bullet's dimensions itself. | ||
| The bullet itself was in pristine condition. | ||
| People hate this conversation because it's been done so many times before. | ||
| But there's also fragments of it that was left in the body, the body of Connelly especially, where they weren't accounted for. | ||
| They weren't missing for the bullet they found on the gurney. | ||
| That wasn't the bullet that did all that. | ||
| It just wasn't. | ||
| It's not a bullet that shattered bone. | ||
| It just wasn't fucked up enough. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Much more likely, since it was found on the gurney at the hospital... | ||
| Somebody placed it there. | ||
| And to pretend that people wouldn't place it there is preposterous. | ||
| You find a pristine bullet on a gurney, on Governor Colley's gurney in the hospital. | ||
| Do you assume that someone placed it or do you assume that this is a bullet that went through two people and just happened to wind up on a gurney? | ||
| Well, either one of those is true. | ||
| Or either one of those is possible, rather. | ||
| To say that you absolutely know that that's the single bullet, and this is the reason why. | ||
| No, it easily could be placed there. | ||
| And if it was placed there, your whole theory of one bullet doing that thing, well, you have no bullet. | ||
| Where's the bullet that did all this? | ||
| What does it look like now? | ||
| Well, it looks, I don't know, something. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| So because, like, finding the bullet was the only reason why people were willing to believe that one bullet did all this damage. | ||
| Which is really ridiculous, because you would think that would be contrary. | ||
| Because, like, this is a bullet that was, like, shot into a swimming pool or something. | ||
| It doesn't look fucked up at all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| The either-or thing is a problem as well, because everybody wants to say, Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| It was a conspiracy. | ||
| Could be Lee Harvey Oswald was a part of the conspiracy. | ||
| That's possible, too. | ||
| He could have been their patsy, like he said I was a patsy, but he also could have been involved in it, which would account for the slaying of the officer, like a police officer was shot, and they attributed that to Lee Harvey Oswald. | ||
| He might have shot a cop because he was a guilty fuck. | ||
| He might have been one of the gunmen. | ||
| There might have been several gunmen. | ||
| They might have just had that guy set up as a patsy from the jump because he had a wife that was Russian, he was from Russia. | ||
| Either way, they killed Kennedy. | ||
| I wouldn't go back to see that. | ||
| I'd go back to Roswell. | ||
| I'd want to see if a UFO crashed or if it was just a fucking air balloon. | ||
| A hot air balloon. | ||
| That one feels to me like it could potentially have the most disappointing outcome. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'm looking forward to being disappointed. | ||
| That you do this and then go, oh fuck, it was an air balloon. | ||
| I want to confirm my suspicions. | ||
| And my suspicions are, like, this is my suspicions when it comes to UFOs. | ||
| This is the big one. | ||
| I think that people are full of shit. | ||
| I think that there's enough full of shit people to account for some really good stories about UFOs. | ||
| Has anybody ever experienced an actual UFO from another planet? | ||
| It is absolutely possible. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm not discounting. | ||
| If you're the one person out there that actually has a real unique experience with a UFO and you're not crazy, I'm not discounting you. | ||
| But what I'm saying is, when I look at all the evidence, like the Roswell and all these different stories and all these different crash stories... | ||
| People are so full of shit that it's much more likely knowing the small number of these things that actually get reported. | ||
| People say thousands of sightings every year. | ||
| There's 350 million people in this country. | ||
| If you only get thousands of sightings every year, what are the odds of those people being crackpots? | ||
| 100%? | ||
| It might be 100%. | ||
| If it's not 100, it's 99.99999. | ||
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It's too crazy. | |
| It never happens to a really regular And we must account for the number of crazy people that we have, that we've counted. | ||
| There's a lot of them. | ||
| So if people are just having these episodes where they start telling you about UFO abductions and seeing ships that are invisible and move faster than time, it's also possible they're crazy and full of shit. | ||
| That's... | ||
| So I would love to go back. | ||
| And if I went back to Roswell and I found an actual UFO, I would fucking change my tune. | ||
| But if I went back to Roswell and I just saw a bunch of people standing around a weather balloon... | ||
| It's good that your one isn't going back to... | ||
| It's going back to... | ||
| To disprove something rather than witness this is what happened. | ||
| It's like, no, this didn't happen. | ||
| Fuck that shit. | ||
| Absolute bullshit. | ||
| You can't come up with any of this anymore. | ||
| Well, I think I would like to be open-minded. | ||
| Like, look, no one would like it more than me if I went back and I actually saw a spaceship from another planet. | ||
| Like, if you go to Area 51 and they could take you to the Bob Lazar place where they have this fucking gigantic hangar and you go inside and you see an actual alien UFO. Holy shit, I would love that. | ||
| But it's way more likely to me that you get there and you see a bunch of remote control shit that the government's been working on, and you see some aircraft technology that led to the stealth bomber, which they know they built out of there. | ||
| That's more likely what the UFOs are. | ||
| Yeah, that makes more sense. | ||
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Yeah, although it's back-engineering alien technology. | |
| Well, I don't see a lot of evidence of that. | ||
| That seems like you're discounting human ingenuity, which is obviously fucking amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, look at this sound thing. | ||
| That's exactly how it's going to say. | ||
| What we're looking at already is that back-engineered from aliens who want to see what we're saying at distance. | ||
| So I think you're dealing with a lot of dull-minded people that can't even comprehend the intelligence level of the people that can conceive something like a stealth bomber. | ||
| So they're seeing this technology arising, they're attributing it to back-engineering UFOs, when it really could just be people that are so smart, so much smarter than them, they're not even the same species, essentially. | ||
| They're just super fucking smart and they figured out a gang of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's way more likely. | ||
| Yeah, completely. | ||
| So the people who work for the government that have made it are aliens, essentially. | ||
| In a way? | ||
| They're that much further advanced than us. | ||
| That's the proof of aliens. | ||
| Stephen Hawking. | ||
| Tell me he's not an alien. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's an alien. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| He's a computer voice, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he has a brain that's connected very loosely, biologically, to some movements that control a computer. | ||
| It's essentially a brain directly interfacing with the computer through fingers. | ||
| He's textbook alien. | ||
| He's a classic alien right there. | ||
| And he warns us about aliens. | ||
| He's warning us about him. | ||
| He's covering his own tracks. | ||
| He's trying to hide it in plain sight. | ||
| Right in front of us, pretending he can't move, and waiting. | ||
| And then he'll open up like the thing. | ||
| It'll be a fucking mouth and chomp down someone's head. | ||
| But in a sense... | ||
| Petrifying. | ||
| In a sense, he's an alien in that he's something that we can't even imagine. | ||
| We can't even imagine what's going on inside of his mind. | ||
| He's so goddamn smart. | ||
| He's so advanced that his concepts and the levels that he's operating on and thinking on might as well be alien to some guy who works at Krispy Kreme and keeps fucking up and doesn't figure out which button to press. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Shouldn't say Krispy Kreme. | ||
| It's a wonderful establishment. | ||
| Makes fine donuts. | ||
| What's the deal with the line for that, though? | ||
| They're delicious. | ||
| There's like 30 car deep in Burbank. | ||
| Every time I drive by, I'm like, one day I'd like to try it. | ||
| It's not because they suck. | ||
| The Burbank one is the shit, dude, because it's 24 hours a day. | ||
| You need to do is come home from a comedy club some night. | ||
| I've done that coming home from the Ice House. | ||
| Stop off, get some Krispy Kreme. | ||
| Gotcha! | ||
| It's like one in the morning and there's a line of 30 people. | ||
| Gluten free. | ||
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| No gluten-free. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here, bitch. | ||
| You're getting full sugar. | ||
| It's going to go right to your arteries. | ||
| You're going to feel like shit for hours after you eat it. | ||
| But for the mouth pleasure that you get for that minute or so where you're eating one of those, it's worth it. | ||
| It's worth those hours easily. | ||
| Yeah, don't be a pussy. | ||
| What do you think is going on with this Ferguson thing? | ||
| Because I'm looking at it now, like they just arrested the HuffPRO reporters, the arresting reporters. | ||
| They're going into McDonald's and going, everyone needs to leave, like employees. | ||
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| Wait a minute. | ||
| HuffPRO, why are they arresting? | ||
| You know who to follow is Wesley Lowry. | ||
| It's W-E-S-L-E-Y-L-O-W-E-R-Y. He writes for, I think, the Washington Post... | ||
| He's formerly of the Boston Globe and the LA Times. | ||
| Huffington Post reporter arrested in Ferguson. | ||
| Yeah, it says Ryan J. Ryan. | ||
| Oh, Ryan J. Riley, rather. | ||
| This is fucking crazy. | ||
| Ryan J. Riley and the Washington Post's Wesley Lowry were arrested Wednesday while covering the protests in Ferguson, Missouri surrounding the death of Of unarmed African-American teenager Michael Brown, who was shot to death by a police officer last week. | ||
| Riley tweeted that around 8 p.m., the SWAT officers invaded the McDonald's at which he was working, requested information after he took a photo of them. | ||
| Lowry was also working at the fast food restaurant. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| How are Huffington Post reporters arrested? | ||
| Oh, HuffPost caused the Ferguson status of Riley after tweets that he had been arrested. | ||
| The person who picked up the phone identified himself as George, said he couldn't give any information at this time. | ||
| So who got arrested? | ||
| I'm confused here. | ||
| Reporter for the West... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Los Angeles Times reporter Matt Pierce talked to the police department. | ||
| And this guy used to work for the Boston Globe. | ||
| And look, officers slammed me into a fountain soda machine because I was confused at which door they were asking me to walk out. | ||
| And this is a reporter that was waiting to be taken away. | ||
| Large black man screaming for help in the back of a police truck. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| I'm dying. | ||
| I'm dying. | ||
| Please call. | ||
| He screamed. | ||
| Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out which Huffington Post guy got arrested. | ||
| Also, Ryan Reilly of HuffPro assaulted and arrested. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So those guys... | ||
| So who... | ||
| Why did it say that they... | ||
| Oh, I get it. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| They were working on their laptops at McDonald's. | ||
| That's how they were working for McDonald's. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| So they came in while they were working and they asked for their ID and when they took a photo. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Like, that's, like, beyond overstepping bounds. | ||
| There was also a video that someone put up online of some people filming cops, and the cop points the gun on them and tells them to get the fuck out of here. | ||
| And they all start screaming. | ||
| It's really crazy shit. | ||
| Like, the cop says, get the fuck out of here! | ||
| And he points the gun at them. | ||
| You know, it's some dark shit, man. | ||
| This is all what everyone was terrified of when that Occupy Wall Street shit was going on. | ||
| What they were worried most is that at one point in time, the United States is going to have something that just wakes people up to shit like this, and they actually start rioting. | ||
| And that's a terrifying thing for police. | ||
| It's a terrifying thing for law enforcement, for any form of government. | ||
| When you have this happen, these types of things, they build momentum. | ||
| It gets real scary when people feel like the police is doing them wrong and there's a battle between people and the police. | ||
| They start shooting rubber bullets at crowds like they're doing here. | ||
| They're just hitting random people in the crowds, trying to disperse them. | ||
| You can't do that, man. | ||
| This is dangerous shit. | ||
| This is how people get overthrown. | ||
| Here's a picture from it. | ||
| You know, the Shah of Iran got overthrown. | ||
| One of the reasons why they rose up against him is because he was starting to say that they were going to attack people if they were in any sort of formation. | ||
| If more than two or three people were together and they formed any sort of a group, they were going to arrest them all, shoot them on sight. | ||
| And the next day there was like two million people. | ||
| There's got to be a breaking point in all those things of going, right, we can't... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just tough because there's always going to be a load of smaller breaking points along the way that don't cause the change but cause a lot of bad, bad results and actions. | ||
| Crazy that they feel like they can just arrest people that are in McDonald's. | ||
| Like, are you protecting or serving when you're doing that? | ||
| Which one? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Guys are in McDonald's, they're reporters, and you're allowed to just come in and disturb them? | ||
| Because you think, what, they took a photo of some crazy shit that's going down and you don't want it being released? | ||
| Is this protocol? | ||
| Are you following, like, is this in your book of what you're supposed to do? | ||
| Look, they were arrested for not packing their bags quick enough. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's insanity. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| They can just decide to come into McDonald's and kick everybody else out. | ||
| Meanwhile, the streets are flooded with people. | ||
| That's so strange, man. | ||
| Why were they kicking everyone out of McDonald's anyway? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| McDonald's is property. | ||
| I think when shit hits the fan, when you have a situation like this and people from the police and civilians are fighting, it's like things get real hairy. | ||
| And there's a lot of huge, huge, huge mistakes that get made. | ||
| And there's a lot of stress and a lot of pressure. | ||
| It's going to be real tough to calm this fucking thing down. | ||
| And it just can spread so much more now because of Twitter and because of everything else. | ||
| It becomes this, everyone knows about it, which fires it all up more, right? | ||
| Most of the time you live in England, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And in England, the cops don't have guns, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| So is there ever any of this kind of rioting? | ||
| I mean, there still has been, yeah. | ||
| There's... | ||
| A regular police don't have guns, but there are obviously different units or higher-up things where it can be the case. | ||
| Yeah, there has been. | ||
| A couple of years ago, there was a big one where a kid was shot because they thought he was an armed... | ||
| Armed police had been called out for an incident and the guy wasn't armed. | ||
| And it caused riots for days and days, kind of... | ||
| In London. | ||
| Similar type of situation. | ||
| It's just not as regular and not as... | ||
| It's far rarer because, yeah, it's not any policeman. | ||
| Not a policeman in McDonald's or wherever else. | ||
| Not everyone has got... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| ...is weaponised... | ||
| That's a weird thing. | ||
| How does the police deal, like, how often is violent crime with guns take place? | ||
| How often is that in England? | ||
| It's not that regularly. | ||
| There is, again, as everywhere, there are guns, there are knives, like there is crime going on, but yeah, it's nowhere near as regular a thing. | ||
| And I'd say even proportionately, obviously there's millions and millions more people in the US, but I'd still say percentage-wise, it's far more regular. | ||
| Yeah, and every now and then there's like some sort of a, like that Lee Murray situation where they had that crazy bank robbery. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was fucking nuts, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They had full armor on and masks and, you know, ski goggles on and shit and couldn't see their faces. | ||
| And it's weird because stuff like that wasn't that big a news story. | ||
| It wasn't? | ||
| No. | ||
| It was the biggest bank robbery in all of England, right? | ||
| Again, yeah, but it wasn't as big as the riots over a kid getting shot. | ||
| Bank robberies aren't as hot a topic these days, are they? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I think it's way harder to rob a bank. | ||
| I don't think that happens all that often. | ||
| And the Lee Murray one was one of the biggest ones ever. | ||
| I mean, him and his alleged compadres I mean, they heisted some insane amount of money, right? | ||
| It was hundreds of millions of dollars. | ||
| Yeah, it was crazy amounts. | ||
| Yeah, that guy's a crazy story, huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How much of a folk hero is he in England? | ||
| Not that much. | ||
| Generally not that much. | ||
| Again, I heard about that whole story more because of who he is and because of his fighting and everything else. | ||
| Because it makes martial arts. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| So the other people that were involved... | ||
| That's how I became aware of it. | ||
| And again, I can't say... | ||
| I guess other people may have been more aware for some reason, but yeah, that's the main... | ||
| That's how I heard about the story more, because of MMA. Yeah, he doesn't even seem like a real person. | ||
| Like, a guy who fought as a high-level MMA fighter, got stabbed like seven times, and... | ||
| And then wound up being involved in one of the biggest bank robberies ever. | ||
| It's a folk story, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he goes away to Morocco and he's in prison in Morocco and just running shit over there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's living over there for a while and then eventually got arrested. | ||
| Where's he now in jail? | ||
| Is he in jail in the UK? I have no clue. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He's got a crazy life, man. | ||
| Someone's going to take that guy's life and turn it into the most insane Guy Ritchie movie ever. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, like him narrating it. | ||
| It's got to be the easiest one to write because it's all just there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just literally tell your stories. | ||
| England has a lot of violence, but like fisticuffs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's something that I found shocking when I was there, how often you see guys duking it out in the street. | ||
| It's a weird one. | ||
| I'm a Millwall fan, which is a football team over there, and we're known for having a lot of hooligans and violence of writing. | ||
| They're known as the worst of the lot. | ||
| But again, my opinion is that's not exclusive to football, really. | ||
| In the UK, generally on a Saturday night, if you're in a busy town centre, you're going to see a fight of some sort. | ||
| Because we drink so heavily. | ||
| LAUGHTER Doug Stanhope has a great bit about it. | ||
| In England, they'll just fight about everything. | ||
| Where are you from? | ||
| Over here! | ||
| Fuck over there! | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| It's such a strange thing. | ||
| I wonder how much that is... | ||
| Related to the fact that, I mean, there's direct descendants. | ||
| When you're in Europe, there's no clean break. | ||
| It's not like your family comes over to a new continent, forms a new civilization and starts fresh. | ||
| No, you're essentially riding on the momentum of King George. | ||
| It's like the same, you know, like the society has moved and progressed. | ||
| We're a tiny little island, but we've got this... | ||
| And used to be a massive empire. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's gotta affect things, right? | ||
| Our whole history is running so much of the world, and then we're on this tiny little island, still claiming that we're the mighty England, but we're just scrapping in the streets amongst ourselves. | ||
| Isn't it weird how civilizations do that? | ||
| Cultures rise and fall, rise and fall, and their influence, and their power. | ||
| You know, Rome. | ||
| Go to Rome. | ||
| Man, it's shit there. | ||
| Nothing's going on. | ||
| Go buy a pizza. | ||
| I mean, what are you going to get when you go to Rome? | ||
| You're not going to see any just giant armies. | ||
| Again, it's the weird illusion. | ||
| In Britain, our history and our arrogance, in a way, 90% of the stuff that we got that was good was from the Romans. | ||
| The Romans came and showed us. | ||
| And the reason a lot of our society crumbled after the Romans left was because we had all these amazing roads and everything, but we didn't know how to rebuild them or to maintain them or anything like that. | ||
| So we kind of had this big boom when the Romans came over. | ||
| And then plummeted for ages because we're like, oh shit, we've got all this technology and whatnot and we don't really know how to fix it. | ||
| Some other guys made it and then they went broke and had to go home because they got overthrown and we were there like, ah, fuck. | ||
| And then years later it's then turned into our great history and our great advances in technology and Yeah, it comes in waves, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, guys figure it out, and then something happens, and then new people have to reinvent, and yeah. | ||
| It's just such a fascinating thing. | ||
| It's such a fascinating thing when you go to Europe and you see how old everything is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It really puts into perspective, because when I was a kid, I lived in Boston. | ||
| And there was a cemetery near the commons. | ||
| And it's like one of the oldest cemeteries in the country. | ||
| And you'll see a headstone from the 1700s or 1600s. | ||
| That's a big deal. | ||
| But in comparison to the European history, they have that big white horse that's on the side of a hill. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Nobody fucking knows where it came from. | ||
| Nobody has a goddamn clue. | ||
| So much stuff like that. | ||
| And just things like Stonehenge and all that kind of just, it's just crazy how old that. | ||
| And again, really, it's not that impressive. | ||
| It's a load of slabs, it's some shit, but it's the fact that this is, yeah, that's so old. | ||
| No one really knows what, how or what. | ||
| Yeah, and they like debate the purpose of it. | ||
| They find roads, these crazy stone roads. | ||
| Like, okay, what the fuck? | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| No one knows. | ||
| Everyone forgot. | ||
| It's all just gone. | ||
| Whole civilization comes and goes. | ||
| It's a beautiful thing, though, man. | ||
| It's an amazing thing to discover the remnants of the past and try to piece together what happened and then really try to put it into perspective what has happened that brought us to 2014. All the different lives that had to be lived, all the events that had to take place. | ||
| And all the different things that we're trying to still piece together today and try to figure out, well, what was going on? | ||
| What did they believe? | ||
| Why were they worshiping cows? | ||
| And what were they doing on top of this hill? | ||
| And why they set this up to align it with constellations? | ||
| What was their belief system? | ||
| They wrote like this? | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| They had these little squiggly lines. | ||
| What are they saying? | ||
| It's crazy to think of the level of intelligence that was around Before the breakthrough was made to record that and to document that. | ||
| So just so much stuff, just amazing shit that probably they all knew what these stones were for. | ||
| Everyone knew what the fuck that was for, but that wasn't written down anywhere. | ||
| Yeah, they figured, we're not going to forget that. | ||
| We spent so much time building this. | ||
| Everybody knows what the stones do. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Stonehenge. | ||
| Everybody knows what Stonehenge is for. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder when the first guy started writing shit down, everybody else was probably like, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
| He's like, I wrote a language. | ||
| Like, I'm not learning your shit. | ||
| I got my own language. | ||
| My language involves circles. | ||
| It's all about big circles and little circles. | ||
| Big circles means I'm really mad. | ||
| Little circles mean I'm happy. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Big circle, little circle. | ||
| You had to get a bunch of people to agree. | ||
| Like, you had to get a bunch of scholars. | ||
| How many generations did it take? | ||
| How many generations did it take? | ||
| To figure that out. | ||
| It's just unimaginable. | ||
| And then someone's like, I'm going to write it on a cylinder, and I'm going to roll it on clay, and you're going to know what I mean. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| And then how fucked up is it when they then go and find another society that got it completely different, like no correlation at all. | ||
| So not only have you had to figure out this completely new way of communicating, you've got to then interpret their way into yours. | ||
| LAUGHTER It's too crazy. | ||
| It's the idea of how crazy... | ||
| Look, when you think about Columbus in 1492, sailing off, finding the Americas, landing here, seeing the Native people, trying to communicate with them, what that must have been like, not even knowing where the fuck you landed. | ||
| You get there, and you see some people... | ||
| And they're all brown and shit, and they got feathers on their head, and you're like, what is going on? | ||
| How do I tell this guy that I'm from Spain? | ||
| What is he saying? | ||
| You had to decipher a language that no one even knew existed, and there's a gang of them. | ||
| You got the Lakota people who speak one way. | ||
| You got the Cherokee that speak another way. | ||
| You got the Apache that have their own way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's only 200 years ago. | ||
| You know, 400, 500 years or whatever it was, from 1492 to 2012. I mean, think about, like, when they came here, the amount of time between 1492, the less than 600 years, 500 plus years, to today. | ||
| That's nothing in terms of the world. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| But in that time, this one spot with a bunch of people on horses just hanging out, just... | ||
| It erupted, became New York City, San Francisco, California. | ||
| The last time I was here, I can't remember what it was, but someone was telling me how long ago it was that LA was part of Mexico. | ||
| 1800s. | ||
| I was like, yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not that long. | ||
| I don't think, I mean, I think, when, okay, when was LA Mexico? | ||
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I say, I say 1800s. | |
| More recent than that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I could be wrong. | ||
| I could be remembering it wrong, but. | ||
| Brian, you're dating a Mexican. | ||
| I was at a Mexican last night. | ||
| But if you had to ask, though, if you had to guess, when was L.A. Mexico? | ||
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1821. 1827. Okay, when was L.A. Mexico? | |
| Hmm. | ||
| When did L.A. belong to Mexico? | ||
| Okay, when did... | ||
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It's the anticipation now. | |
| I know, it's building. | ||
| I'm saying more recently than that. | ||
| I'll be in Santa Barbara this weekend. | ||
| What are you saying? | ||
| I don't know, I don't want to... | ||
| 1769. Oh, really? | ||
| 1769? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| European exportation period from 1542 to 1769. Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| Mexican period 1821 to 1848. The United States statehood. | ||
| Dude, that's fucking amazing. | ||
| Which continues to the present day. | ||
| 1821. I guessed it. | ||
| Date... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| You probably... | ||
| Do you think maybe you had that in your head? | ||
| Like you knew? | ||
| I got a little Mexican juice on me. | ||
| Maybe that has... | ||
| No. | ||
| Do you think that maybe you saw that somewhere? | ||
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No. | |
| It's a crazy number to pick. | ||
| 1821. Yeah. | ||
| It is a real... | ||
| Incredibly specific. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's really specific. | ||
| But you got it. | ||
| But it's also... | ||
| I've seen those t-shirts. | ||
| That's one thing to take into consideration. | ||
| They have a t-shirt that says 1881 to 2014. A lot of people wear it. | ||
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It's got the... | |
| You know. | ||
| It was like... | ||
| His birth t-shirt. | ||
| I've seen them like different years. | ||
| Maybe I saw it one day. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I've never even thought of it. | ||
| Well, it's a good memory, though. | ||
| Whatever it is, you were right. | ||
| I actually didn't even know that Mexico and the United States was in the same. | ||
| Different tribes of Native Americans have lived in the area that is now California for an estimated 13,000 to 15,000 years. | ||
| Holy shit, man. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| During the pre-European period, there was only between 100 and 300,000 Native Americans living in California. | ||
| Wow, there's no one here. | ||
| It's crazy, just empty. | ||
| Isn't that weird? | ||
| 300,000 is not empty, though. | ||
| It's probably amazing. | ||
| It's probably amazing. | ||
| I mean, look, it's probably a hard life living back then, but how amazing must it have been to be on horseback and shit 300,000 people here? | ||
| Well, actually, pre-European. | ||
| The problem with that is pre-European, I don't think they were on horses at all. | ||
| The horses came from the Europeans, I'm pretty sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're riding horses. | ||
| That was one of the things where Cortez showed up and Montezuma's people were like, what the fuck? | ||
| These guys are gods. | ||
| Because they were on horses. | ||
| And thought that they were part of the horse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fascinating shit, man. | ||
| 1821. That is not that long ago. | ||
| It's not that long ago at all. | ||
| Less than 200 years ago, this was Mexico. | ||
| No wonder why Mexicans get mad. | ||
| That shit's really recent. | ||
| That's not that many generations either. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| That's not that many at all. | ||
| There's like great-great-grandparents who can almost remember that shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I think I saw somewhere the other day that Columbus, Ohio now has a bigger population of Mexicans than white people. | ||
| I think. | ||
| I'll double check on that. | ||
| Columbus, Ohio. | ||
| I remember when I lived there just some 10 or 11 years ago, I remember seeing the first Mexican. | ||
| I remember like, what's that? | ||
| And my mom's like, that's a Mexican. | ||
| Every day I'm hustling. | ||
| Every day I'm hustling. | ||
| They figured out a way. | ||
| They just fucking hustled. | ||
| They got all the way up to Columbus. | ||
| Like, these fucking chubby white people aren't working. | ||
| Let's go take their jobs. | ||
| Kick some ass. | ||
| Take some names. | ||
| I'll take five jobs, please. | ||
| We're all living in a one-bedroom apartment. | ||
| We're saving money. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Next thing you know, they're opening up a taco joint. | ||
| Best tacos in Columbus. | ||
| Dude's not even legal. | ||
| They're earning it. | ||
| They're taking over. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| If there's two taco places in town and one of them was a dude that's not even legal, I'm going to that guy's place. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's bringing over goats and shit and serving some nasty, vicious jalapenos. | ||
| That one place, man, in La Jolla, across the street from the condo. | ||
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What's that place called, yeah? | |
| Shit, you asked me too fast. | ||
| Bob's Burritos? | ||
| Don's? | ||
| Don Luke. | ||
| Whatever it is. | ||
| It's so close to Mexico. | ||
| It's just the most authentic, the most ridiculously good burritos you'll ever have in your life. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| And it's in San Diego, so it's like real close to the actual Mexico. | ||
| You can't play. | ||
| Don Lucas. | ||
| Don Lucas. | ||
| You can't play. | ||
| When you're in San Diego, you can't have some shitty Mexican food. | ||
| Mexico's right there. | ||
| It's literally on the doorstep. | ||
| Yeah, it's a weird moment, man, when you have, you know, this incredible community, like La Jolla, you know, this, like, really rich area. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Beautiful, beautiful area. | ||
| And then 20-minute drive, Tijuana. | ||
| 20-minute drive, like, a complete different country, you know, wrecked with poverty, drug violence. | ||
| It's crazy to... | ||
| Touring around Europe, realising how many countries you can cover in a few hours drive. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| I mean, that's insane that you're driving through Germany to France, to Holland, to Italy. | ||
| All of these are within a day, kind of thing. | ||
| But you're in a completely different country and culture, language, everything. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I mean, you guys can go to France and Germany and Hungary. | ||
| Like, how many different places can you leave in England and get to in one day? | ||
| Insane amount. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| If you're literally driving through or driving, yeah, there's so many. | ||
| How many of them speak different languages? | ||
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All of them. | |
| All of them. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| They're all across the board from each other and completely different languages. | ||
| But most of them speak English as well. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| When you're doing gigs, do you do gigs in all these countries and do English gigs? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It was crazy because obviously it's quite lyric based. | ||
| We assumed when we first started going out there that they wouldn't really get that side of it. | ||
| But it's crazy how in Europe a lot of people seem to get it more because they read the translations of it and are paying attention more, if you know what I mean. | ||
| So if you're hearing it and you speak English, You're going to miss tons of it, but you're picking up enough. | ||
| Whereas because they're not picking up any, they'll then go and read it word for word and understand it far more than half the British people who come to our shows and stuff like that. | ||
| Oh, that's kind of cool. | ||
| Because it's all fast. | ||
| So if you're like, oh, this is my language, then you won't get... | ||
| There's tons of hip-hop songs. | ||
| I don't know half of it, but I've listened to it a million times and you just, yeah. | ||
| Have you ever thought about doing that as an app? | ||
| Releasing it as an app and having all your lyrics as an app? | ||
| All the lyrics on there. | ||
| No, that could be good. | ||
| I mean, I've always been adamant of putting it in the booklets and shit like that. | ||
| I've always been adamant on the packaging, always having... | ||
| of being good. | ||
| I like physical stuff. | ||
| Obviously, I'm... | ||
| Adapting to digital stuff, but I like to put out a nice physical product as well with all the lyrics in. | ||
| And then I kind of sit there all kind of snotty online when people ask me the lyrics. | ||
| It's like, well, if you bought the CD, then you just go and buy the album. | ||
| You'll find that out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you get upset with people who bootleg your shit? | ||
| I get upset that there's no shame over it. | ||
| That kills me now that people will openly just tweet again, yeah, I stole that. | ||
| It's like, cool, I understand that that happens, but don't come to my face and tell me that, because particularly as I've released most of it on my own label now and stuff like that, it's just like, you're not ripping anyone off other than me. | ||
| Um... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But do you feel like there's a balance with people finding out about your stuff, because someone will take it and download it, and then they'll distribute it, and then other people find out about it, and then more people come to your shows? | ||
| I think there completely is. | ||
| I think, yeah, it's all interwoven, but I think people often argue, oh, I stole your music, but I paid to come to see you live. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Yeah, and I performed live for you. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| That's what you were paying for. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| That doesn't cover the CD. It's like a respect thing, almost. | ||
| It's just like, if you're going to do it, yeah, you might have some new listeners, because he told somebody, but don't go to your, like you say, go to your faces. | ||
| I find it such a weird argument that saying, I stole this, but I paid for this, when the thing you're paying for has its own value anyway. | ||
| It's like saying, I'm not going to pay you at work this week, but I paid you for the last three weeks, so we're cool. | ||
| No, we're not cool. | ||
| This is for this work. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But I don't know, I do a lot to... | ||
| To try and just make it engaging and make people want to pay. | ||
| On my solo album, I released a fake torrent that was all the instrumentals, but me just talking and just chatting and doing kind of DVD extras, kind of, oh, the drummer on this track was Travis Barker and shit like that and going through stuff, just so that the torrent that was first out there and everyone grabbed wasn't at the album. | ||
| But then it also kind of, not in a preachy way, kind of said... | ||
| If you're stealing it, you're stealing it from me, from the artist that you're into and supporting. | ||
| And that kind of works. | ||
| A lot of people say, oh shit, I got caught on the fake torrent. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| I like to try and make things interesting in that way. | ||
| Because again, if people are going to steal, they're going to steal. | ||
| But we get an awful lot of people who say, I've not paid for an album in ages, but I paid for your album because of the way it's all coming from a personal perspective. | ||
| Right, because it's from someone directly, you release it. | ||
| There's a lot of things that people don't want to pay for online. | ||
| Once they start being able to get things for free, they don't want to pay for them. | ||
| It's finding the balance and the sweet spot. | ||
| I've just released my... | ||
| I did a spoken word show at Edinburgh Fringe, so it's kind of spoken word, but there's some stand-up in there as well kind of thing. | ||
| And it stunned me that the comedy world, Louis and yourself and everyone, have found that thing of putting it out for $5 and being direct to the customer. | ||
| $5 is enough for you to not want to go on a torrent site and hunt it down. | ||
| It seems to be that sweet spot that people will be happy to pay, yet the music industry hasn't done that. | ||
| For my Edinburgh show, I've done that and released it in that way. | ||
| And again, it seems to be working. | ||
| People are kind of... | ||
| I think people like you, they'll buy it. | ||
| And if they wouldn't buy it, they were probably never going to buy it anyway. | ||
| And if they download it, you'll get more people downloading it. | ||
| So I don't know how many people have illegally downloaded my shit, but a lot of people have bought it. | ||
| So I think it all works out. | ||
| I just think it works out. | ||
| Spreads the word. | ||
| But again, it's that I'm completely... | ||
| I think that's the way things go. | ||
| I started off... | ||
| I think you've got to do a certain amount of free stuff. | ||
| I think that's totally key. | ||
| You need to be giving away stuff for free and engaging and building that crowd so that hopefully when you do have stuff for sale, people will pay. | ||
| Well, I think that definitely makes it a better relationship, that if everything you do is just for sale, I think when you give people stuff for free, certainly like a podcast. | ||
| Have you ever thought about doing something like a podcast? | ||
| I'm tempted. | ||
| I've had a radio show in the UK for the last year and a half. | ||
| I've just stopped that now for a bit of a break, but I'm considering going the podcast route instead. | ||
| Yeah, why not? | ||
| I mean, when you have a radio show, the thing about it is you're always going to be working for someone. | ||
| You're always going to be, you know, uploading something to someone else's servers, and they have to decide whether or not Scroobius is getting crazy. | ||
| This motherfucker's saying some shit that I don't agree with. | ||
| We're going to have to remove him from our... | ||
| I mean, that's exactly it. | ||
| That kind of just being your own boss on that is... | ||
| Yeah, and much like you do with your spoken word stuff. | ||
| You're the creator of this stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You'd be the creator of your own podcast, too. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I think... | ||
| I've completely... | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| That Edinburgh Fringe thing I mentioned is $6 on my website, but if you enter the code word Rogan, it's $5 at the moment. | ||
| So, you know, I've seen your adverts. | ||
| I know how it works. | ||
| I know how to win people over. | ||
| So... | ||
| Scroobiuspip.co.uk. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| .co.uk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| Well, that's awesome, man. | ||
| I forgot about that. | ||
| I sorted that before I came in. | ||
| What are you doing over in America right now? | ||
| I'm working on a new solo album. | ||
| So I'm working on that with Travis Barker again, Danny Loner from Nine Inch Nails. | ||
| Danny is friends with Eddie Bravo. | ||
| Yeah, Eddie was over last night. | ||
| Travis seems like a cool guy. | ||
| I've never met him, but we've gone back and forth online. | ||
| I've communicated with him a little bit. | ||
| The last time I was over here... | ||
| And again, he's fucking... | ||
| He's huge. | ||
| He doesn't need to give anyone any favours. | ||
| I came over and he was just... | ||
| He gave us about two hours in his studio of just him playing drums for the record. | ||
| It was like, do you need any more? | ||
| And just... | ||
| We chatted online and he played on a track I'd done previously, but it was all over emails. | ||
| And just the most accommodating and nice guy. | ||
| And it's like, you don't have to be this guy. | ||
| You could be a complete dick. | ||
| But he's, yeah, just played for hours. | ||
| And literally as soon as I left, I had a message from him saying... | ||
| If you need any more, just let me know if you're in town. | ||
| That's so cool. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yeah, that's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, he's about as big as it gets when it comes to drummers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Does that guy have any room for tattoos, or is he just completely filled up? | ||
| He still seems to be having them all the time. | ||
|
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How's that possible? | |
| He's just tattooing over tattoos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he's got no room, man. | ||
| I like that dude, though. | ||
| He does a lot of martial arts training, too. | ||
| He does. | ||
| Yeah, there's a place near here that he trains at. | ||
| The way we started talking was us talking about our UFC events and our picks and that. | ||
| That's kind of how we got to know each other. | ||
| Yeah, he loves the UFC. He's a big MMA fan. | ||
| He's always tweeting about it and stuff. | ||
| That's cool, man. | ||
| So listen, we're out of time. | ||
| We did three hours. | ||
| Can you believe that shit? | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Flew by. | ||
| It did. | ||
| It did. | ||
| But thank you for, first of all, thank you for letting us play your music on the show. | ||
| No problem at all. | ||
| And thanks for coming on and just having a chat. | ||
| It was fun. | ||
| Thanks for having me on, yeah. | ||
| Pleased to be here. | ||
| And what was the thing that I wish I could say besides proper? | ||
| Something with an F. Wasn't it straight away or straight away? | ||
|
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Straight away. | |
| Something with an F. You're the worst reporter ever. | ||
| I was thinking a fact. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's what you're always thinking of. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, the fucking show is over, and we thank you. | ||
| We thank you very, very much. | ||
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| Do we do NatureBox this one? | ||
| Well, we did NatureBox last one, so... | ||
| Thanks to NatureBox anyway. | ||
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| This weekend I'm with Ryan Sickler and Sam Tripoli at Velvet Jones in Santa Barbara. | ||
| Powerful Santa Barbara. | ||
| That's an awesome spot. | ||
| I love Santa Barbara. | ||
| It's one of my favorite cities. | ||
| Alright, so you can find out that and more on DeathSquad.tv along with all of Brian's products, the kitty cat shirts that he creates all himself and all that stuff. | ||
| And we'll be back next week. | ||
| A lot more podcasts for you, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Until then, have yourselves a beautiful life. | ||
| Big kiss. |
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