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Joe Rogan Experience #533 - Chris D'Elia
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joe rogan
Young Chris D'Elia out there in the wild, the wild of Hollywood, on a billboard.
I'm driving up La Cienega.
I see your face with some other people I don't know.
Looking sexy.
chris delia
I like young.
I like that he's young.
joe rogan
You're still young for now.
unidentified
I know.
chris delia
I know.
I still kind of feel young.
joe rogan
34?
unidentified
34?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm 47 today.
chris delia
today and do you feel 47 no but i take all kinds of shit to keep me feeling fucking fresh and fucking hormones and fucking athletic supplements and shit you know guys like you guys like you just make me feel like i'm gonna die soon because you you seem like a buddy i would hang with like that and you know you are but like you seem like somebody that's my age and then when i realize oh yeah you're not i'm like how the fuck am i gonna feel because i definitely feel less energetic than i was when i was 25.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what do you do about it?
It's all about what do you do about your body.
Do you exercise?
How often do you exercise?
chris delia
I used to exercise so much.
joe rogan
Besides humping?
Yeah.
chris delia
No, that's my cardio right there.
unidentified
That's my cardio.
I used to exercise so much, and I just don't, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got to.
I know.
Especially when you hit your 30s.
Is it hot in here, Jamie, or is it me?
jamie vernon
I'll turn it up.
joe rogan
Yeah, turn the AC on, man.
I'm fucking sweating.
I think maybe it's just Chris D'Elia been in the room.
unidentified
Young Chris D'Elia.
joe rogan
You got to take care of it.
Otherwise, it starts atrophying.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no other way around it.
chris delia
I know.
joe rogan
If you don't, your body's going to slowly atrophy.
chris delia
I got to.
I got to.
And I just keep saying I got to, but then it's like I do the road.
unidentified
So, you know, I do the road, and it's like, when are you going to fucking start?
chris delia
And then it's like, you know, that's the hardest part.
I know what, you know, you're like, yeah, you just fucking do it.
joe rogan
But it's like, you just got to write it down.
That's the number one thing.
chris delia
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Write it down.
Write down what you have to do in a day, and then do that.
unidentified
The writing in the down thing is fucking hard.
You've been putting the pen on the paper and making marks.
chris delia
And, you know, I'm really not lazy.
I'm really not.
joe rogan
No, you're not.
You're constantly doing sets.
You're always working on your act.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
I see you at the improv.
You're there almost every night.
You're there constantly.
Yeah.
You're not lazy when it comes to stand-up.
chris delia
No, not at all.
joe rogan
But that's also because stand-up is like just such a rewarding thing.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
You know?
Right.
chris delia
Immediately people are like, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
You know?
But if you work out, there's nobody there that's like, yeah.
joe rogan
But if you don't.
See, like, if you had an amazing body and you took your shirt off and people went, holy shit, Crystal.
chris delia
You're right.
joe rogan
And then it became what you have now.
You'd be like, what the fuck happened to my body?
My amazing body.
Yeah.
But now you're just used to having a normal body.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And so it's become okay.
chris delia
Yeah.
Okay.
The other thing is, too, like, I'm pretty lucky with genes.
My genes.
Right.
So I'm like, you know, I'm like, I don't know if I'm going to do shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You're not going to get fat real easy.
chris delia
Well, yeah.
unidentified
No.
chris delia
And I eat pretty well.
I don't eat like shit, you know?
So.
joe rogan
That's a bummer for people that don't.
Like, they have those slow genes.
No matter what happens, they just start gaining fat really quickly.
That is a drag.
chris delia
That is really.
You're just, those are the cards, dude.
joe rogan
Ectomorph is what it's called, right?
Or endomorph.
Endomorph.
Yeah.
Endomorph is the fat one.
Ectomorph is the people that can't put on weight no matter what they do.
unidentified
Yeah.
chris delia
I will start.
unidentified
You will.
joe rogan
Someday.
Yeah.
chris delia
And I feel.
joe rogan
You don't want to start when it's already fading, though.
Yeah.
You know, like, right now, you still look good.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You look athletic and trim.
chris delia
I feel good, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You feel good.
You look good.
Everything's good.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It'll go, though.
No matter what.
But then there's like, I have this guy that does my podcast sometimes, a trainer.
His name is Steve Maxwell.
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt.
60, what is he?
63?
64?
jamie vernon
Yeah, that sounds right.
joe rogan
64.
Fucking guy looks great.
He's ripped.
Shredded.
Six pack.
Works out all the time.
Just constantly at it.
Never gives his body a chance to get old and floppy.
chris delia
That's so fucking awesome, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
I just, you know.
My thing is also, like, for me, like, I'll focus on one thing and I'll just obsess about it.
And what that is, is comedy to me.
unidentified
Right.
chris delia
Like, that's stand-up to me.
I mean, I told you I trained, like, for five years.
Where'd you train at again?
With John Machado.
joe rogan
Oh, right, right.
chris delia
And I did it, like, every day.
And I worked out.
i lifted weights dude and it was just what i did right and then i did stand up and i was like oh what the fuck am i doing rolling around because it wasn't it you know i found out that that wasn't me you know like i got to a point where i was like good for me but it was like other guys were this was their life yeah you know and then once i did stand up it was just so so obvious that that was who i was and that was my life that i was like oh i'm just gonna excel at this, I feel like, if I work really hard.
And I did.
joe rogan
Well, stand-up is a strange thing.
You definitely do work really hard.
Like I said, I see you there all the time.
But stand-up is a strange thing in that its potential is entirely based on like the contents of your mind and putting it all together.
And it's all, the whole thing is you.
It's not like, you know, like jiu-jitsu, there's moves, there's armbars, there's triangles.
And you could be very creative and you could even come up with your own moves.
But with stand-up, like literally everything.
chris delia
Anything.
joe rogan
Everything that you can think of could possibly be.
Yeah.
And you can, and you could, you know, I remember, like, especially when I first started out, not being able to figure out, like, I had pad after pad filled with these ideas that were just ridiculously stupid ideas.
They could never be comedy.
But I was trying to figure out what are the ideas that I could come up with that could be comedy.
You know, because some of them I would, like, I'll still to this day, I'll go back and find some of my old notebooks.
And I was like, how did you ever make it, you fucking idiot?
chris delia
You get embarrassed when you read this shit.
You're just like, yeah.
That's like when now I watch old tapes of me, like when I'm like, oh, what?
joe rogan
Oh, it's hard.
It's hard to watch tapes from a couple of years ago.
chris delia
I know, yeah.
It's hard to fucking look at a picture and see how you used to dress a couple years ago.
joe rogan
But there are those pictures.
Photos of me from news radio when I had earrings.
chris delia
Two earrings.
joe rogan
Everyone was in one ear.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
chris delia
I had earrings, though.
I mean, you know, it's like.
Can you even fucking imagine me with earrings?
joe rogan
No, I can't now.
chris delia
Oh, yeah.
It's just so not me.
But I did it.
I was at the fucking mall and I was like, I'm getting a fucking earring.
joe rogan
Those ones that they punch it through and it's a fake diamond.
chris delia
Absolutely, man.
joe rogan
I got one of those.
Yeah, me and my roommates, we all went at the same time, got our ears pierced.
chris delia
Wow.
joe rogan
My one roommate was crazy.
He went both ears, pirate style.
Yeah.
chris delia
My brother had two ears, both ears, yeah.
joe rogan
That's a gangster move.
Especially in the 90s.
chris delia
You look at, and you look at those, yeah, and you look at those pictures and you think, oh, man, like you're like, how did I get any pussy?
Like, for real.
Not even like, I mean, I know it's funny, but like, not even to be funny.
Like, how did somebody be like, yeah, that guy?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that girl settled just like guys.
chris delia
I know, I know.
I don't want to think a girl is settling with me, though.
That doesn't go well with me.
joe rogan
I actually stopped wearing an earring because of jiu-jitsu.
chris delia
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Because I used to have to take it out every time I rolled.
No, tape it.
Who fucking tapes it?
chris delia
I saw guys tape it.
joe rogan
Really?
chris delia
Yeah, just tape it.
joe rogan
Wow, that's crazy.
chris delia
I don't know why they wouldn't just fucking take it out.
joe rogan
I know dudes who tape their ears because they have those stretchy things.
You know, they have those giant holes in their ears.
And so they pull the end together and tape it.
There's a guy who fights in the UFC that's not.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they put those.
What are those things called?
Yeah, I don't know.
chris delia
Wrong.
They're called wrong.
joe rogan
What are they called?
jamie vernon
Plugs?
joe rogan
Plugs.
Those things are ridiculous.
chris delia
Those are, yeah.
But that's a whole culture.
There was girls like that that'll be like, yeah, fuck that guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, because he's got the biggest holes in his mirrors.
Well, it's like those African women that have those plates.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
Surrey, Surrey women, they have those plates in their lips, and the larger the plate, the more cattle they're worth when they get married.
chris delia
Yeah, that's...
I don't know about that at all.
I mean, I know about that.
I've seen it, but yeah.
joe rogan
That's a strange choice.
chris delia
It is weird when you think about, well, also, that's attractive to them, right?
joe rogan
Not anymore, apparently.
The word is that, obviously, I'm not hanging around with a lot of African broths.
But the word is that it was much more common, but now women are rebelling against it.
A lot of young women don't do it because they have to bang their teeth out.
Their lower teeth.
Yeah, as the plate gets larger, like as you start doing that, it starts going into your mouth and you drool constantly.
Yeah.
chris delia
Yeah, none of that, man.
Like, what the fuck are you doing?
Like, just less pain always.
No banging teeth out.
joe rogan
It doesn't make any sense.
It just doesn't.
It doesn't, I mean, that's a weird thing.
Like what culture like decides is beautiful.
chris delia
Well, yeah, it's also like different in the world currently.
Like you go fucking thousands of miles across the world and it's completely different.
Yeah.
And it's still now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
Which is crazy to me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now.
2014.
There's a chick in Africa walking around with a giant plate on her lip.
chris delia
And some dude's like, oh man, I want to fuck that girl.
joe rogan
Look at that plate.
I could put my food on her plate and fuck her at the same time.
unidentified
But if it were us here, we would be like, oh, yeah, it'd be too hard to fuck her.
chris delia
She's got a plate with her.
joe rogan
But imagine if that became hot.
Imagine if that, I mean, if it became hot anywhere, if it became like a style anywhere, it could be a style anywhere else.
It just needs to catch.
chris delia
Right.
Yeah, it's all what we fucking made up.
I mean, like, it used to be where girls who were very fair-skinned were hot because that meant they were rich and they were indoors and fucking that was awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
And then it was, and the, and the workers got all tan because they were outside.
But then it was like, oh, fucking tan chicks are hot because they have a lot of money because they go vacation.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
And then the fair girls were not hot.
Right.
joe rogan
And then it turned around again.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where it's like, well, that girl doesn't want cancer.
chris delia
So she's got the money to know and have the skincare.
unidentified
But it's like, we're just making that shit up with our minds.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, I used to date a girl who used to tan a lot.
And I had to talk to her.
I go, you know, you're not, you don't look better when you're tanned.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
You look great when you're pale.
It's just you look different.
That's all it is.
It's not bad.
Like, it's all in your head.
Like, some girls would be like, I can't go outside.
I'm not tanned.
chris delia
I know.
Yeah, I don't.
And how about like girls that are tan?
Like Filipino girls would be like, I can't.
I'm so, I need to get tan.
You're like, you are, like, you got that.
joe rogan
You're brown.
chris delia
You're lucky.
You don't have to do that shit and get cancer.
joe rogan
Well, even weirder, there's a lot of Filipinos that take this stuff called glutathione.
It's an amino acid, but they have it injected in their skin somehow to lighten their skin tone.
Yeah.
Like permanently lighten their skin tone.
Yeah, what the fuck?
chris delia
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
There's like a whole procedure involving this glutathione stuff where it's very common with Filipinos, apparently.
chris delia
Chicks will, yeah, it's just kind of, they'll just do whatever to make themselves look whatever.
But then there's dudes that do that too, and that's just absolutely not.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's certain things that dudes do that like immediately I can't talk to them.
Like if you're waxing your eyebrows, we have nothing to say to each other.
chris delia
Yeah.
If you have two earrings, really.
joe rogan
If you have a unibrow and you want to like get that unibrow trimmed, I get that.
I get that.
chris delia
That's fine.
joe rogan
But if you have like sculpted eyebrows, you can go fuck yourself.
I can't talk to you, dude.
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
You're trying too hard, man.
chris delia
Yeah, there is...
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
unidentified
Like, just let it go or have it not at all.
joe rogan
Yeah, like, especially if you have like stripes.
Well, shave.
chris delia
Of course that.
I mean, honestly, if you're a fucking like, you know, fighter or some shit, and you're just like, I'm going to put lines in my beard because I'm crazy to be fucking to then fine.
But if you're just like a guy and you work at crate and barrel and you're just like, dude, it's fucking on with my sideburns.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
What are you doing?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of work involved in that.
Just you're peacocking.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, Callum was talking about this once in a book he read about a reason why men disdain men who wear a lot of jewelry.
And then it goes back to the hunting days that men who would wear like shiny, flashy things, they would distract animals.
Like they would be a problem on hunting journeys.
And the same thing with men who talk too much.
Like men were like, if you look at like movies where there's a hero and the hero is like someone to be looked up to, they're always very stoic.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very quiet.
unidentified
Quiet.
chris delia
Very collected and quiet.
joe rogan
They know how to stay calm.
They keep their shit together.
Because those are qualities valued in hunting parties.
chris delia
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird?
But it makes sense.
Which is like with women, the difference in the way women communicate with each other and the difference between the way men communicate with each other.
Like men value stoicism.
Men value a guy who can keep his shit together when the chips are down.
But when women would be gathering and making food and shit, when men were off being quiet and sneaking up on animals, the women would be talking all kinds of shit about the men.
This motherfucker's going, he's running around out there hunting with his beads on and shit.
unidentified
Scared out all the demons.
joe rogan
You know, like that's the reason why the culture of females, the culture of men, it has to do with hunting and gathering.
chris delia
Yeah, that's fucking crazy and deep.
But what about then you get the movies with the female characters that are common, collected, and cool?
joe rogan
Yeah, those are fiction.
chris delia
Yeah, I mean, okay.
But, I mean, it's all fiction, but then that, yeah, and then I'll watch that and be like, come on.
joe rogan
Well, there's movies.
chris delia
But then I feel like I'm sexist.
joe rogan
You are.
unidentified
But not because of that.
joe rogan
I am too.
But not really.
I mean, look, it's more realistic than sexist.
It's not saying that those possibilities don't exist.
They can absolutely exist.
But the reality is most of the time they don't.
I think there's, you know what anthropomorphism is?
It's like we put human characteristics to animals, like Yogi Bear and shit.
We give them a human...
I think we also do that with gender.
Like Brian Holtzman, you know Brian Holtzman?
Brian Holtzman had this fucking bit that he was doing about Charlie's Angels when Charlie's Angels came out and Drew Barrymore was kicking people and knocking them out.
And he goes, it's a fucking woman.
unidentified
He goes, it's a fucking woman.
joe rogan
She's not beating up nobody.
Come here.
unidentified
Come here.
joe rogan
And he goes, if that was my woman and she thought she was going to go out there, fight crime, I'd beat her fucking ass.
I'd beat her fucking ass right in the house.
You're a woman.
chris delia
That guy's truly funny.
joe rogan
He's hilarious.
He's one of the most hilarious guys that, for whatever reason, never made it.
And, you know, I mean, I got to get him on the podcast if anybody.
chris delia
Yeah, you definitely should.
He's just like, but he'll also go, he would go up at like 1 a.m. and walk the room.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
chris delia
But, but the 17 people that stayed would be crying.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
Crying.
joe rogan
I'll never forget.
unidentified
Sorry.
joe rogan
He had this bit, the Brian Holtzman bit that I always quote about Susan Smith after she drowned her kids.
Remember that woman?
The woman who pretended somebody else did it.
He went on stage like a week after this happened.
He goes, ladies and gentlemen, I heard they were bad kids.
They sat that close to the TV.
They didn't put away their blocks.
chris delia
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
They were always spilling the milk.
Those kids will not be missed.
chris delia
Oh, my God.
But it's funny the way he does it.
It's weird.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, it's awful.
chris delia
It is awful.
joe rogan
It's awful, but it's hilarious.
Yeah.
Do you remember when there was that Florida?
Do you remember?
There was a really cheap airline that I forget what it was, Express Air or something like that, some Airbus.
It was like a really cheap airline, and they went down the Everglades.
And he had this hilarious bit about trying to walk his dog, and there's fucking body parts washing up on the shore.
And these people with their fucking cheap airline tickets.
His anger and disdain was at these fucking people too stupid to buy a regular airplane ticket.
And now he had to deal with it.
I'm trying to walk my dog.
I'm trying to walk my dog.
My dog's picking up feet and shit.
That's funny.
You had to see it.
I'm not doing the guys material any justice.
But yeah, he's one of those guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
I don't know where the fuck he is.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
He was a meter maid.
chris delia
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
He actually looks like he would be a meter maid.
We'd be like, this fucking guy.
And you'd be like, what does this guy do?
What does this guy do besides this?
And the answer is he fucking goes on stage.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, it didn't make any sense because he was so good.
chris delia
He was so good, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, like, I'm like, how are you not like?
But what led him to be so good was like he had the stage.
His stage was the store.
He very rarely did anywhere but the store.
chris delia
Yeah, he would do the Laugh Factory sometimes.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it didn't feel right.
chris delia
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan
He would be up there with Joe Coy and shit.
unidentified
I know, right.
joe rogan
Everybody's bubbly.
unidentified
People were so happy.
And then fucking Travis Bickel would come up, the real life Travis Bickel, and just people would be like, oh no, this is not for me.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's those guys that everybody knows and everybody remembers that, you know, are like, you know, what you would call comics comic.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's like for comics, those are the guys.
Like, if you ask a lot of comics to go to the store, who's like your 10 favorite comics ever?
A lot of them are going to say Holtzman.
chris delia
Oh, yeah.
Well, Brody's like that, you know?
unidentified
Yes.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
But Brody's catching on at least.
He's got a Communication show.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
HBO?
What is it?
HBO, Communicentral?
Communication.
unidentified
But the internet can help you do that.
chris delia
When Holtzman was, you know, young, there was no internet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
So it's like now people can find what they want.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's true.
Well, it's also true that you used to need a network.
Like we were talking about this before the podcast started.
You used to need a network.
You used to need someone to come along and say, hey, you are the guy.
We're going to put you as the star of our show.
You're going to be this guy.
But now all you have to do is have like a funny video on YouTube.
And then everybody goes, who's that guy?
And then they send it to their friends at work.
And next thing you know, it's passed around to the office.
And the next thing you know, like look at Russell Peters.
Russell Peters became gigantic, not because of television, because of fucking YouTube.
Russell Peters sells out the O2 Arena in London, two shows in a row.
That's like 18,000 fucking seats or something like that.
I mean, he's gigantic.
And that's all because just because he was funny.
Nobody picked him.
Nobody, you know, and that can happen now.
But when Holtzman was around, especially when Holtzman started, it just didn't exist.
chris delia
Yeah.
unidentified
No network guy would be like, hey, you be on my sitcom.
chris delia
You be the lead.
joe rogan
You would never take the chance.
chris delia
No way.
joe rogan
You took the chance with that guy.
Who knows what the fuck he would do?
You know, like we were talking about guys getting in trouble for saying things off their show.
chris delia
Off their show on stage as a comedian.
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember the rumor was, I don't know if it was substantiated or not, but that ABC had told Tim Allen to stop doing stand-up while he was doing homework.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, he was on this huge sitcom and his stand-up, even though...
Back then, yeah.
chris delia
What did he talk about, though?
He would talk about being a man.
joe rogan
Yeah, but apparently, like, people could think that it was sexist or it could be too harsh for a family show.
Because, like, that was the other thing with Bob Sagitt.
Bob Sagat had this super family show, and he's real dirty.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
Like, he didn't do stand-up at all while he was on that show at all.
chris delia
Yeah, I guess he didn't, huh?
No.
They must have.
Well, also, he was getting so much money.
Maybe he just didn't feel the need to do it.
joe rogan
Probably.
I mean, it probably had something to do with his willingness to say yes.
chris delia
Right.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I mean, I, but that, to me, it's like I've gotten everything from stand-up.
So to not do that is just weird to me.
Like, I can't wait to get off set and go on stage.
joe rogan
When I was on news radio.
chris delia
But did you, you did it?
You did stand-up.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
chris delia
Always, right?
joe rogan
Always.
Never stopped.
I did get lazy, though.
There was a time in the early 90s when I first got on television, like 94, 95.
I did fuck all with my act.
chris delia
Oh, really?
I just did what you do.
joe rogan
Did the jokes that I had been doing for years, and I didn't write at all.
chris delia
For how long?
joe rogan
At least a year.
Maybe more.
Maybe more.
And then one day, some of the writers from News Radio came to see me at the store, and I had a late-night spot and I ate dick.
chris delia
Really?
joe rogan
Ooh, it was ugly.
chris delia
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
chris delia
I'd love to see you eat dick.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
I went down, dude.
And it was in front of somebody I respected, a couple of people that I respected, and it just wasn't good.
And I realized that I had been coasting.
I was like, God, this is not good.
A few moments in my career, the real standout eat dick moments, like there'd been some bad sets along the way, but there's a few standout, really eat plates of shit moments, you know?
But those moments made me way better.
And that happened to me, that moment of eating dick in front of those writers at the comedy store, in the main room, late night.
The crowd was dead.
Already bad, yeah.
There was no one there.
I mean, there might have been, plus the writers, there might have been 30 other people, and they were scattered throughout the room, maybe 50 maximum.
I don't even think 50.
It started out a full house, you know.
And then as the show goes on, I got on at like probably one o'clock in the morning or something like that.
It was just dead.
chris delia
But you were on this show already, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
chris delia
So how did you have such a late spot?
joe rogan
I always had late spots.
They always gave me late spots.
Yeah.
Well, when I first got on news radio, I was a non-paid regular.
Mitzi used to put me on after the show was over.
So I would go on like after Mancia.
It's like when nobody knew who Mancia was.
But actually, I think he might have already gotten an HBO special by then.
I was like 94.
But my point was that at one point in time, the executive producer, he actually said to me, he goes, why are you still doing stand-up?
You're an actor now.
chris delia
Yeah.
People don't get that.
People think that when you do stand-up, it's to make it.
And you're like, oh, and then when you make it, you're like, you did it, dude.
You graduated.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
That's the, that's what, that's you, though.
chris delia
That's your job.
That's you.
That, to me, that's what I, like, that's why I say when I don't understand when comedians who have a show apologize for some shit they did.
Right.
Because it's like, that's, in a way, that's disrespecting who you are.
joe rogan
Unless you really feel bad about it.
chris delia
Oh, yeah, of course.
If you're like, yeah, you know, I mean, you know, whatever, whatever it is, fuck this, fuck that.
And then you're like, oh, well, I shouldn't have said that.
And you mean that and you feel bad, then fine.
But the thing is, we're, you know, to be a comedian means you're somebody who people are going to go to see jokes.
And if you are telling jokes and then somebody gets offended and then you say you're sorry, I didn't mean that, I shouldn't have said that, then what you're saying is you're kind of serious.
You were kind of serious on stage when you said that.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
chris delia
To just be like, well, no, I'm not sorry because I was joking and I'm sorry you feel that way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
But I'm not sorry for making a rape joke or whatever because it was a joke.
I was trying to fucking be funny.
joe rogan
Right.
chris delia
That's why the only thing worse than what, what was that, Michael Richard, Michael Richards?
That was terrible.
It did not seem like a joke at all.
It seemed real as fuck.
joe rogan
Well, were you around back then?
chris delia
I was like an open micer at the Ha Ha Cafe when that shit happened.
And I kind of knew Frasier Smith a little bit because he was who was hosting that night, you know?
And I was like, oh, wow, Frasier was hosting that night.
And when that happened, when you saw that, like, there's nobody in the right mind that would have seen what went down with Michael Richards on stage and been like, oh, no, he was joking around.
joe rogan
Well, Michael Richards is the exact opposite because Michael Richards started out as an actor.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
Got super famous and then tried to be a comedian.
unidentified
Right.
chris delia
Right.
That's tough.
That's real fucking tough.
joe rogan
That's way harder.
chris delia
It's way fucking harder.
joe rogan
You know, Charlie Murphy did that too.
chris delia
Oh, he did?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Charlie Murphy was an actor for his entire career, then got on Chappelle Show.
And then when he was on Chappelle Show, everybody wanted him to do stand-up.
And then he started doing stand-up like headlining.
chris delia
Wow, that's, I can't fucking imagine that.
joe rogan
He's got balls.
Charlie Murphy has giant fucking iron balls.
chris delia
I don't know him.
But yeah.
joe rogan
Michael Richards.
chris delia
But what happened with Michael Richards was then when he went on to Letterman to apologize, it was even worse.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
I mean, he was talking about the war in Iraq.
It was like, dude, just say you're sorry or whatever.
chris delia
And then he said something, he called black people blacks, which just sounds, you're like, yeah, you're so out of touch.
joe rogan
Just blacks.
Especially if you say the blacks.
chris delia
It was just, it was just, all you had to do was be like, yo, I was.
Look, we've all been in that situation as a comedian where something goes wrong and you're like, and you, and you push the envelope.
And, and, and sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.
Like, I remember one time a lady mouthed off at me in the audience and I called her a cunt a bunch of times, okay?
Whether or not I feel like I should have done that, the point is, is I'm, you're up there fighting for your fucking life, man.
unidentified
And if you fuck up, so be it.
chris delia
This is a safe place.
You're a comedian and you're an entertainer.
And if they, if they try to fuck with you, you're just kind of fighting for your life.
And if somebody were to have seen that and say, oh, Chris DeLia called a woman a cunt out of context, that sounds fucking terrible.
unidentified
But I was trying to be funny about it, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
So to just, I can't imagine, I mean, God, his apology was so bad.
chris delia
It was so bad.
joe rogan
It's also you're trying to figure out how to get out of a situation on the fly.
Right.
Like when Michael Richards was on stage, the scenario was Michael Richards was on stage and these guys were heckling him.
And Michael Richards, look, he was a bad comedian.
chris delia
I don't even know his stuff at all.
I never knew.
I never saw it.
joe rogan
I saw it live in the flesh.
He was terrible.
He would go on stage and everyone would be waiting for the funny stuff to start.
chris delia
Because he's so funny in Seinfeld.
joe rogan
Yeah, because he's Seinfeld.
He's Kramer.
He goes on stage and he would do these Pratt falls and stumble.
Does this work?
Does this thing even work?
He would do all this crazy shit and he would fall down.
He would slip.
And it would be, you know, kind of like silly.
Like you would thought that it was going to set up some comedy.
chris delia
Got it.
joe rogan
But it never did.
It would never go anywhere.
And so he's at the Laugh Factory and it's like a Friday night and it's late.
It's a weekend night.
It's late and he's fucking bombing and these guys are heckling.
They're heckling him brutally.
And he just points at them and starts calling them niggers.
Like, look, there's a nigger.
There's a nigger over there.
And you're like, whoa.
chris delia
I mean, Jesus.
joe rogan
But the backstory is he was on stage at the comedy store before that.
He went and did a spot at the store and then did a spot at the factory.
And he was coked out of his gourd on stage at the store.
chris delia
Oh, I didn't even know about this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he definitely enjoys stimulants.
chris delia
I guess that's not surprising.
joe rogan
Whether or not he absolutely does cocaine.
Can I prove that in court?
No, I cannot.
Speculation was that he was coked out of his head.
But that he was like super aggressive and confident on stage for no reason.
chris delia
That's great.
joe rogan
Cocaine confidence.
chris delia
You all need that.
joe rogan
And it was apparently just, it was ugly.
But he got through it without saying nigger.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
He didn't went across the street.
chris delia
He should have went home.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He got through.
chris delia
He got through that without saying the own word.
joe rogan
If he didn't do that set, I mean, think about that.
His life would be insanely different right now.
chris delia
He would still be doing stand-up.
joe rogan
He would have sitcoms.
He would be beloved.
People would be taking meetings with him.
They'd be excited to see him in a movie.
It was starting to fail, though.
It was all starting to fall apart.
chris delia
Stand-up will expose you.
If you're not a stand-up, it'll expose the shit out of you.
And you have to keep sharp, too.
It's like people are like, you know, my favorite, one of my favorite hours is Eddie Murphy, you know, and people are like, he should come back, he should come back.
Dude, could you imagine coming back after 30 years of not doing it?
joe rogan
And getting busted with transsexual hookers?
chris delia
Well, you have to talk about it.
joe rogan
But unless you're Jim Norton and you just completely own it.
Most people can't completely own weird, perverted shit, especially if you're a kid.
That's why you're a champ movie.
chris delia
That's why you can't apologize if you're a cat.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
That's why.
Unless you really did a Kramer.
chris delia
Unless you truly feel like you fucked up.
joe rogan
Well, what Hayshidde could have done is he could have said, listen, I got a cocaine problem.
And I don't know if you've ever gotten cocaine, but cocaine makes an idea seem like a good idea.
That's a terrible idea.
chris delia
Even people who don't do cocaine know that.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're aware that it's...
Here's the deal.
I'm not that good at comedy.
I'm a good comedic actor.
But as a stand-up, I'm marginal at best.
I mean, if he owned it like that.
unidentified
If he had said that, it would have been like, oh, okay.
People forgot about it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
They really would have.
I believe that.
joe rogan
I think at the very least, he would have gained a lot of people's respect because it would have been like.
chris delia
Yeah, like ours.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, like ours.
Our respect big time.
chris delia
Your peers, yeah.
Your peers that matter.
joe rogan
If he had done a black-only show, like if he had invited only African Americans to come to him.
chris delia
Come heckle me.
Come heckle me.
Watch me get through it.
joe rogan
We were at the store.
I didn't see the spot that he had at the laugh actor, but we were at the store that night.
I had missed Kramer.
My spot was, I'm going to call him Kramer forever.
Fuck him.
I had missed him, and I had gone to the store just after his spot.
So I got there, and they were all talking about how bad he was.
It's like, oh, Kramer is all crooked up.
And so then we're hanging around in the parking lot.
We're hanging around in the parking lot.
And Brent Ernst comes over from the Laugh Factory.
And you know, Brent, he was like, yo, you ain't got to fucking believe what just went down to the laugh factory.
And so he starts telling us the whole story about Michael Richard going off and, you know, and dropping end bombs and the whole deal.
And we were like, whoa, I didn't think anything of it.
And then Monday morning, the video came out.
And then, you know, it was one of the very first of those videos that like catches someone doing something really fucked up.
unidentified
That's the other thing, man, is that that wasn't a big thing then.
chris delia
And it became a big thing then.
That was one of what you're saying, one of the first times that that happened.
That is just fucking...
I mean, how many times has something like that happened undocumented?
Oh, before that?
joe rogan
How many times have I done things like that undocumented?
chris delia
Well, I haven't because I grew up in this fucking age.
joe rogan
So it's like, you're getting fucked, pal.
chris delia
I know.
I know.
joe rogan
You're not getting fucked as much as 21-year-olds are getting fucked.
Like, they have no knowledge of any time before this.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
You know, at least you being 34, you can, I mean, you kind of are watching it come to fruition as you're an adult.
And you're kind of seeing all these fuck-ups happen, like the Kramer fuck-up and all these other fuck-ups, seeing them as you're becoming a successful stand-up, like, ooh, don't do that.
Ooh, learn from that guy.
Ooh, there's a mistake I don't want to make.
But these kids, like, they don't even get that.
Like, what are you saying?
Like, they make dudes exposed.
chris delia
I know, but that's the thing.
There has to be some sort of backlash where it's like, where, like, look, I think I'm a good guy.
I think I'm a good guy.
I try to be good to people.
I think my friends would say that.
joe rogan
You're a good guy.
You're a good guy for sure.
chris delia
Well, thank you.
But I'm trying to not be braggadocious or even modest.
I'm just trying to think outside myself and think, I think I'm a good person.
Okay.
And I definitely fuck up.
There's absolutely things out there that if I were to run for some sort of office, I would be fucking buried before I even start.
There's no way.
There's no fucking way.
Even if I was really politically minded and very smart and the best candidate, there's no fucking way I would get elected because I've already done the thing that buried me and somebody's got a screenshot of it.
Do you know what I mean?
So here's the thing, though.
I think that we live in a time now where you've got to just, like, look, that shit's out there.
It's videotaped somewhere.
Somebody's got something.
I fall asleep.
Chicks fucking probably take pictures of me with all the sheets.
My dick's out.
unidentified
Probably.
chris delia
It probably is out there somewhere.
joe rogan
Probably.
chris delia
You just got to be, somebody's got to come out to the, where they get exposed and they just have, and there's a video of the guy.
Are you sorry?
Did this happen?
What do you have to say about this fucking dick pic?
unidentified
And you just got to be like, look, you either like me or you don't.
chris delia
I fuck up.
You fuck up.
There's shit out there like this because of me, because of my stature and where I am.
And if you like me, you like me.
And if you don't, you don't.
And I'm sorry.
And subscribe to me or don't.
joe rogan
And a lot of it isn't even a fuck up.
chris delia
I know, it's not.
joe rogan
I mean, think about that.
Like, if you're lying, like the scenario that you propose, if you're lying there and some chick takes a picture of your dick, that's not a fuck up, man.
chris delia
No, it's not a fucking.
That's not a fuck-up.
It's not a fuck-up.
That's life.
unidentified
But if that happens to a politician, he doesn't get elected.
joe rogan
That's true.
chris delia
And that's fucking bullshit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
chris delia
That's bullshit.
joe rogan
But I think it's only ridiculous based on the standards of the previous generations.
It's like, I think that we're judging these politicians on these previous generation standards.
And then as time goes on, look, Obama is one of the first presidents that said he did Coke and smoked wheat.
chris delia
Would have never happened in the 60s or 70s.
Never.
70s, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I retweeted this thing today.
It was about Nixon.
It was about Nixon during the Watergate administration or during the Watergate scandal.
Nixon brought in a bunch of generals and was testing the waters for taking over Congress and having a coup, having like a military intervention to take over.
It's really fascinating.
I don't want to misquote it or anything, but that guy, like he, his era was a different era.
Like the Nixon administration's era was a completely different era.
Like the standards that he was judged by was things that no one was exposed for anything in the past.
And so all of a sudden, he gets exposed.
The Watergate scandal happens.
He gets busted spying on other candidates.
And then he feels this.
It was also when Kent State happened, when they shot those kids that were protesting the Vietnam War.
And he was constantly worried about lefties, constantly worried about liberals and the liberals taking over the lefties and the East Coast lefties.
And he apparently had some crazy meeting with these generals.
And this is one of the guys says, I got the impression, he said, that he was sort of testing the water with us to see whether or not there would be support, any nodding of heads, or some of these other things.
One could well have come to the conclusion that here was the commander-in-chief trying to see what the reaction of the Joint Chiefs of Staff might be if he did something unconstitutional.
He was trying to find out whether or not in a crunch there would be support to keep him in power.
So if they were going to kick him out of power because of the Watergate thing, he was going to bring in the military.
Like, he was trying to test the waters.
Jesus.
But today, in that same sort of a scenario, like a guy, it's over.
You can't hide things like you could hide things then.
So he got busted, and he thought they were going to try to kick him out of office.
Nixon was a really bad guy.
It was a really bad guy.
But they were all really bad guys.
Like, probably everybody that was president was a really bad guy.
And that's how they did it.
I think the standards that people are going to be judged by are going to be very different because I don't think really bad guys are going to be able to be president in the future.
I don't think a guy like Nixon will get to a point where he could be the president and not have all the dirt on him that would be revealing illuminated long before he ever got into office.
So there's good to that.
chris delia
It has to be that way.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's good to that and there's bad.
Because the good thing is a guy like Nixon, like there would be enough on him before he ever got into office that no one would accept him.
chris delia
Right.
Right.
unidentified
Yes.
chris delia
Yeah.
Totally.
joe rogan
But like the stuff, like the sexual stuff that people do, you know, like JFK would have never been president.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Never.
Never.
Never chance.
If there was Facebook back when JFK...
I mean, JFK was an animal.
He was a fucking animal.
He didn't care if he was married.
He didn't care.
He was going to party.
He was the goddamn president of the United States, the commander-in-chief, and he was going to get his dick wet.
That was just it.
He just did it.
chris delia
That's so crazy, man.
joe rogan
And a president today, no chance.
Clinton was the last guy.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
The last of the great presidential dick slingers.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
From now on, you'll be judged in a completely different way.
chris delia
I don't know if that's...
joe rogan
Is that good?
chris delia
Well, it's not.
It's good when it comes to things that aren't sexual because that affects the job.
joe rogan
Yes.
chris delia
But it's not fair to judge somebody's sexual prowess because of.
joe rogan
You say prowess.
Is it prowess or is it practices?
unidentified
Here's the thing.
joe rogan
It's not, but is it?
Because what if instead of like sex, what if it was a gambling thing?
What if he had this crazy gambling thing where you found out that, you know, hey man, Obama can't stop gambling on shit.
He gambles on everything.
Roll the dice, two roaches running across a table.
Like he'll just gamble on raindrops coming down a window.
chris delia
But that arguably does affect the job.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
You know, but I don't know if you wanting to get ass would be like, you know, what are we going to do in Gaza?
I don't know.
Did you see that ass?
But gambling could affect that.
joe rogan
There was thoughts that one of the things that could affect a president, if a president was like a real pussy chaser, was that someone could blackmail him.
And that if someone had some information, like say if you hired a Soviet spy was super hot to fuck him, to fuck the president, some presidential dick, and she fucks him, and then she has some dirt on him.
chris delia
Pillow talk.
Pillow talks a motherfucker.
joe rogan
Pillow talks a motherfucker.
chris delia
Yeah, that's a thing, but that's kind of more, I mean, is that really a thing?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
chris delia
I mean, come on.
I don't know.
What hot chick around the...
You know what I mean?
Come on.
joe rogan
She's his.
chris delia
Even when that happens in movies, I'm like, come on.
joe rogan
James Bunny.
Yes.
unidentified
First of all, there's no hot spy.
joe rogan
There must be.
chris delia
Well, there has to be to make it to make it for that instance, right?
unidentified
I mean, to be like, we have to get you into he's a skirt chaser.
joe rogan
Top 10 beautiful lady spies.
chris delia
Okay, let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something right now.
Nine of them are not hot.
Nine of them are not hot.
joe rogan
Ten of them are not hot.
chris delia
How about that?
joe rogan
They're all disgusting.
Whoa.
Wait till you see these monsters.
Actually, I'll take that back.
chris delia
That one of them.
joe rogan
You start getting down.
That's Joey Diaz.
There's, um, there...
jamie vernon
And by the way, I know who Joey Diaz.
What's the link from?
joe rogan
Just pull that up.
Just pull that.
It's smashing lists.
Top 10 beautiful lady spies from history.
It's the first one.
chris delia
Also, you never, there can't be a spy walking down the street where you're like, damn, look at that person.
joe rogan
There was a woman.
Her name was Anna Chapman.
She was a beautiful 28-year-old Russian with an IQ of 162.
chris delia
What?
joe rogan
Yep.
She had a diplomatic father, a diplomat father, and a taste for the high life.
She's a Russian national.
When living in New York, United States was arrested along with a couple of others.
chris delia
The title's the best.
joe rogan
Look at her.
Honey.
chris delia
That's her?
joe rogan
Foreign spoke.
chris delia
That's a monster.
joe rogan
I don't know who she is.
But this woman, Anna Chapman, is pretty hot.
She's on page two, young Jamie.
chris delia
No, that other girl was not hot, too.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
But she was arrested along with Anna Chapman.
Yeah, she's hot as shit.
chris delia
She's dirty.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
Guaranteed dirty.
Look at those eyes.
Those are dick suckers.
chris delia
So she was a spy?
joe rogan
Yes.
So she was a Russian national while living in New York, United States, was arrested along with nine others on 27th of June, 2010.
Wow, recently.
On suspicion of working for the illegals program spy ring under the Russian Federation's External Intelligence Agency.
Chapman pleaded guilty to a charge of conspiracy to act as an agent of a foreign government without notifying the U.S. Attorney General and was deported back to Russia.
That's it?
Just deported as a part of a prisoner swap.
And right now, she's tied to a bed somewhere in Russia.
Just fucking crap.
I wonder what she's doing today.
Damn, that bitch is hot.
unidentified
Whoa!
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
Then the next one, number four.
chris delia
How is she number five?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's about it.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, there's an Asian one in there, number three, that's pretty hot.
chris delia
Okay.
joe rogan
Young, beautiful female spy during the Chinese Civil War between blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I can't even read that.
K-U-O-M-I-N-T.
Kylmintang and the Communist Party.
jamie vernon
She was only 15.
joe rogan
She was only 15?
jamie vernon
Or 18?
chris delia
I should put that part up first.
joe rogan
What?
No, that's that's the im no that's when the image wait what I don't know see right here is the whole birthright I'm confused that's ridiculous but but that picture's not that old that picture's a new picture it says 1932 32 to 1947 what does that mean I don't know what the fuck is that still from a movie yeah did she die maybe she must have
back in the oh the life and death of her has become a symbol of the courage of the chinese people is often cited as a homily h-o-m-i-l-y of their lord i don't even know what that word is what's homily i don't know i never heard that word used okay let's google it i love the internet what a weird world we live in homily is um a religious discourse that is intended primarily for spiritual edification rather than doctrinal instruction oh fuck are you using that word
for of their loyalty to communism her story is often told as an homage to the struggles endured and the sacrifices made for the cause of liberating china from the centuries of rule by foreign powers okay yeah that's one of those words that uses other words i don't know to describe it okay there's a picture of this other chick that's clearly not a real picture number two because she was from 1551 you fucks right you can't have pictures of this chick from 1551 that look like a movie still god damn it sons of bitches at least somebody draw her
nice and then matahari matahari that was in 1876 but yeah but that sounds like some old old way of thinking to be like well we can't have a president that wants to fuck a lot because a spy will get him like come on it is kind of ridiculous that sounds like that sounds ridiculous but we kind of proved our own point because the top 10 throughout history we only found one one one of them was 15 one of them was
legitimately hot and like i said she was russian right that's it so you're saying what there was one hot russian spy right so we kind of proved our point it's not really it's right yeah worried about yeah but all throughout human history there's only been 10 plus she was 28 what is she now that's his well no she's still hot she's still hot this was only four years ago yeah so she's 32 slinging 32 out there slinging well plus she was already caught so she's fucked yeah we know about her now maybe maybe she got a
raise you know in russia they brought her back to russia she's probably goddamn hero i'm yeah where is she today let's find out if that were really a thing i think people would i mean maybe we don't know about it but people would be like raising hot spies that's true i mean that there why are there's no way we wouldn't do that dude she's even hotter than that picture there's like if you go to google images whoo yeah she was smoking look at this she's probably gonna be a maximum oh yeah totally she's here
that's from that's from stuff magazine yeah she's uh got these long red gloves on this hot lingerie look at this one yeah by the way if you're a spy don't take fucking pictures like that this whole thing doesn't make sense she was pretending to not be a spy dude she's pretending to just be hot but just stay out of the fucking light okay come on son look at that that's really really sexy with the gun i mean come on jesus not a spy the
picture should say under it not a spy hold it right up to her head while you bang her dirty girl that's crazy yeah there's a lot of dirty pictures of her somebody should have known yeah she was on maxim yeah see this she was on russian maxim right it's like not really maxim yeah maxim don't really count russia maxim yeah wonder where she's at today let's see anna chapman today i bet she's got a good gig somewhere in russia she's probably got a podcast she
probably does one woman show explaining how she trick stupid american just by dressing sexy yeah she refuses to discuss it okay like a true spy yeah refuses
to just oh interesting pretty well she's connected somehow to edwards to snowden oh wow there was a recent tweet proposing marriage to edwards snowden that's real yeah she proposed marriage to snowden she wants i want him to marry me so i can double spy spy on america from russia i spy again and again and again i'm a very private discreet person not that private she's on
twitter many interviews is she on twitter i thought she just said yeah you said there's a tweet about it she's got a twitter page that's what yeah but i thought like maybe like somebody else put oh got it let's find out anna chapman twitter spies need to work on their social networking and the chapman on twitter at least to tweet alibis you can tweet alibis put up a twit pic while you're somewhere else yep if i went to her twitter page and she followed me i would panic but i'm following her are you blocked nope
have you ever gotten to someone's page and found you're blocked like oh shit no no no um are you astounded by uh like the like social media has become very strange and uh like twitter and oh everything on her page is all in russian this is kind of wild yeah but yeah she's uh free and clear all sexy pictures all over the place um like uh instagram you go to
like you you had a funny poet but like you're like how are you a girl and you have an instagram page and you don't have a hundred thousand followers how's that happen how's that happen i went to a girl's page and it was just her doing yoga it was her ass like her in yoga jeans she had two million fucking followers on instagram yeah i was walking by in
chris delia
i was in las vegas or some shit i don't know and there was a poster it was like come see instagram sensation yada yada and it was just some chick that's crazy man girls would rather be uh tens on instagram than in real life oh yeah they would be because they just want to shut the shit out of the They want the followers, and then you get the followers for having an ass.
unidentified
And let me ask you something.
chris delia
And then what?
unidentified
And then what?
joe rogan
That's a good question because there was an article in one of those New York magazines that was all about this woman who was an Instagram fitness sensation.
They didn't say it, but it was just because she had a fantastic ass.
It was just incredible.
They were just talking about her lovely figure.
It's not her figure.
unidentified
It's her big, juicy fucking boude.
joe rogan
And they were talking about all these projects that they're putting together, and there was a media team behind her, and they were going to market her.
chris delia
How fucking, because of an ass.
joe rogan
Yeah, just because of a body part.
A big, fleshy body part that carries through a lot of fat hips so that you could give birth easy and fat so that you could sustain the pregnancy.
unidentified
And that's fine, but then when a girl posts a picture of her from behind and it's like, you know, some quote, inspiration shit, and you're just like, no.
chris delia
I know they have millions of comments on their fucking thing, but I'll still comment no.
I will.
joe rogan
You'll just say no.
chris delia
No.
Or 100% no.
All right.
joe rogan
100% no.
unidentified
Because it's not okay.
chris delia
It's not okay.
You can do it, but then you're an asshole.
joe rogan
There's nothing funnier than when you go to a girl's page, whether it's Instagram or Twitter, and there's just a plethora of images of her in sexy positions, their ass out, in her underwear and bikinis, doing selfies.
And then there's a quote about men needing to respect boundaries.
chris delia
That's, yeah, that's something that's just like, no.
joe rogan
Treating women like me.
Treating women like a sex object.
chris delia
You're crazy.
That would be like if I fucking, that would be like if I took a bunch of peanut butter, put it all over my eyes and face and mouth, and then said to you, dude, why does it fucking taste like peanut butter in here?
You'd be like, well, you got fucking peanut.
unidentified
You wouldn't even say it.
chris delia
You'd be like, oh, you're crazy.
So why don't we fucking say that about those girls?
joe rogan
Well, we do, kind of.
chris delia
We do, kind of.
But then when we do, we're sexist.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, there's also, you have no hope of banging them down.
If you're a guy.
Is that true?
I don't know.
It depends.
Yeah, you'll probably do it.
chris delia
You're probably.
joe rogan
But if you shoot them down and then a million other guys are bombing on them.
chris delia
You know what?
You know what?
Those guys are fucking worse than those girls.
joe rogan
Those guys are traitors.
chris delia
They are traitors.
joe rogan
Sons of bitches.
chris delia
God damn it.
No, but for real, when a dude's like, hey, or when you're trying to kick it with a girl, and then some other dude's like, yo, I heard that dude's a bad dude.
Are you?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
What?
chris delia
That's the best.
joe rogan
I heard that dude.
He just fucking, you know, he's just out for pussy.
He doesn't even care.
He'll lie to girls.
chris delia
You know what that dude usually did?
Helped you, by the way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
Because she's not going to be like, oh, really?
unidentified
Bye.
She's not going to do that.
She's going to be like, I think I still know better.
joe rogan
That is a weird thing that dudes do when you do that.
chris delia
Some dudes.
I would never do that.
As a matter of fact, I've been wanting, I've been trying, like, if I'm like really trying to get this girl and like she's so hot or whatever, and then and I find out she has a boyfriend and there's been situations in my life where I was like, oh, I found out a girl had a boyfriend and I found out that the boyfriend's cheating.
I would never fucking, that's them.
That's their thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
To be a fucking dude is going to be like, dude, I think I'm going to do the right thing.
chris delia
But really just doing it because of that Instagram ass, you're a fucking asshole.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of dudes that are fake white knights.
They're just trying to look good.
They're just trying to come off as like, I'm different than men.
I have ethics and morals and they're really important to me.
They're just trying to position themselves.
chris delia
If you're a dude and your best friend is a woman, it's suspect.
It's very suspect.
joe rogan
Highly suspect.
Yeah, unless she's really unusual.
chris delia
Well, look, there are, look, and I'm not saying that women and hot women and whoever are, I mean, they're fucking, they can be great friends, but you all, if they're hot, and even if they're not, you sometimes still want to fuck them.
And that's okay.
joe rogan
Right.
chris delia
You know?
joe rogan
But guys that do have like a hot woman that's a best friend that they're not banging.
And they pretend, no, it's just totally platonic.
Like, okay.
chris delia
I could never trust that guy.
joe rogan
Unless he has like an insanely hot wife.
chris delia
Or if they used to date.
joe rogan
Yes, that's possible.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's possible.
If they like legitimately have nothing to do with each other anymore.
unidentified
Right.
chris delia
Like I have exes that like I wouldn't want to sleep with, but they're hot.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right.
It's over.
chris delia
Yeah, it's over.
joe rogan
But you're still friends.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
Friendly, yeah.
joe rogan
But they're not your best easy vacation.
No, no shit.
chris delia
Fucking weird.
joe rogan
That's weird.
What's weird when anybody like when a guy is like working an angle and trying really hard to like position himself as better than he like position himself as being like different than every other guy.
There's a lot of guys out there that are doing really negative things.
I read this one guy's fucking Twitter page the other day.
It was amazing.
It was just like he's he might be the ultimate white knight.
I don't want to give out his Twitter page.
Yeah.
But he might be like the greatest.
If I met him, he probably has almost no blood in his veins.
His blood sugar is probably zero.
He probably faints all day long.
It was so weak.
But one of the things he said is he said, he said, although I still practice feminist, I still practice feminism, I no longer, what do you say, advertise myself as a feminist because I feel like it's up to women to decide whether or not I'm doing feminism correctly.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
So I'll still practice feminism, but I will no longer advertise myself as a feminist.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
chris delia
I actually don't even know what to say about that.
joe rogan
Male feminism is a very strange thing.
Not male equality specialists or equality promoters, specialists, egalitarian people who only look out for the greater good of all humanity and don't gender identify, or don't, they're not, they're not gender-specific in how they think that people should have rights.
And I think that's, I think equality is a beautiful thing.
I mean, when it comes to how people are treated and when it comes to laws, and without a doubt, that's how it should be.
But this idea of male feminism, it strikes me as a bit pandering.
There's a little bit of pandering going on.
There's a little bit of role-playing going on.
chris delia
Absolutely.
Well, yeah.
unidentified
Because a male has it in him to want to sleep with women.
So it's like that's not going away.
chris delia
This guy, just because you respect a woman doesn't mean you can't see a woman and be like, damn, look at that ass.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
And that's what those guys are acting like.
Like that, no.
chris delia
I'm better than that.
joe rogan
I don't look at her as an object.
chris delia
You have a midbrain.
joe rogan
What's a midbrain?
chris delia
Well, your midbrain is like, you're reacting like a lizard.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
You're like, yeah, cool.
chris delia
A red, fast, red car goes by.
unidentified
You're like, oh, shit.
Even if you don't physically do that, you fucking...
You notice it.
joe rogan
Right.
chris delia
You can be fucking a girl, a beautiful girl, and then on the TV, a commercial comes on with a beautiful girl, and you'll be like, who's that?
joe rogan
Yes, you could be.
You're not supposed to acknowledge that.
unidentified
Well, yeah, I know.
joe rogan
I don't think it's about that.
I think with them, it's about positioning themselves as being what...
What are the issues that men have a problem with women?
And this is just some men and some women.
These are generalizations.
But there's always like, oh, that girl's a gold digger.
She just wants a rich guy.
She wants a guy with a big dick.
She wants some big stud, some big ape.
She doesn't even realize that I'm the guy for her.
These are like issues that a lot of men have with women.
And a lot of women, the issues they have with men is, oh, he's an animal.
The guy's a savage.
He's just trying to fuck a bunch of women.
He doesn't ever want to settle down.
He doesn't want to ever have a family.
He's never going to be loyal to one woman.
And so men will position themselves as being different than every other man.
They'll come along and they'll say, I've seen the evil of, you know, male, you know, patriarchal behavior, and I just think it's not cool.
I'm a feminist.
I'm basically looking out for all women's rights, and I'm different than all women.
What you don't ever find is men who, well, I guess you could find, but it's very rarely guys who are savages who identify with being a feminist.
Like, it's not like studly, athletic, you know, pro-football players like, oh, I'm also a feminist.
Basically, you know.
chris delia
It sounds funny.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's guys that are like, they're not very manly.
So their shtick is, I'm going to position myself as being the solution to all these other men that are out there.
I'm socially retarded.
I'm not attractive in the traditional sense.
So what I'm going to do is just be like super ultra-sensitive and super aware of women's needs and super attentive.
And I'm just going to live my life in misery in attempt.
chris delia
And I guess that works sometimes.
unidentified
I guess it works.
Because guys like that have fucking platinum albums.
joe rogan
But do they, though?
Who are you thinking of?
Like, which guy?
unidentified
Guys, get a guitar and just be like...
chris delia
Well, that's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Like John Mayer.
unidentified
But that's what I'm saying.
chris delia
And I don't know.
joe rogan
But he's not a feminist.
chris delia
That's true.
joe rogan
But if that guy's just, he's constantly got a new girlfriend in the pictures.
unidentified
Yeah.
chris delia
Yeah, I guess you're right, though.
Yeah, I guess you're right, though.
Maybe those guys don't.
joe rogan
No, he's more like a romantic.
chris delia
Right, right.
joe rogan
Like, you know, he's positioning himself as well.
But I mean, look, people position themselves.
Like, what do we do as comedians?
I mean, one of the reasons why guys got into comedy, I know one of the reasons what I loved about doing comedy is that all of a sudden girls liked me.
Like, they didn't like me when I was a fighter.
It was very rare that girls were really excited to hang out with some guy who was hanging out with sweaty dudes all day, getting kicked in the face.
It's not that attractive.
But I mean, guess you're a famous fighter, but comedians, like you could make them laugh.
And so you would work hard on being more funny, be more funny around girls, get girls to like you.
I mean, pretty much every comedian that's heterosexual has had that motivation.
Be funnier because girls like funny guys.
And when do you feel less attractive?
Have you ever taken a girl to a show and you ate dick on stage?
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that's a terrible, terrible, terrible place to be.
chris delia
Yeah, I know.
Because then you have nothing.
You have what you thought was going to work.
joe rogan
And it's worked.
It's less.
unidentified
And you're like, oh, she should have just YouTubed me.
joe rogan
But it's even worse because she, you know, you're worse than a guy who does nothing.
Because what you do, you're awful at.
It's not like I'm trying to find my place in this life, but I've got good features.
No.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
Maybe he's got potential.
Once Chris gets his shit together, but no, you bomb on stage.
Like they saw what you do and you do it awful.
chris delia
That's really fucking funny.
joe rogan
You're positioning yourself as like being a funny guy.
You're like, you know, hey, I'm the guy.
You want to come to me for laughs?
I'm the guy.
Some people are not that guy.
They're the guy, you want to come to me for your quality talk.
I know a lot about women's rights.
And I don't, I used to identify as a feminist, but I found that that's like insulting to actual women.
So I no longer identify as a feminist.
I will leave it up to women to decide whether or not I'm doing feminism correctly.
Amazing.
If that guy picked up a box of cookies, he would fall asleep in the middle of lifting it up.
It would fall and hit his head and die.
The shit hits the fan.
That guy's not going to be able to rebuild society.
chris delia
It has to be a singer that said that.
joe rogan
No, no.
I think he's a comedian.
chris delia
Well, you think you don't even know.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
It's whatever it is.
It's a disaster.
It's a bunch of people with shitty friends, and no one pulls him aside.
He goes, no, man, no.
That's the thing.
chris delia
Comment on these fuckers' Instagram and just write no.
Do it.
And tag me in it so I can find that motherfucker.
And you go, no.
Matter of fact, find these dudes on Instagram.
I know a lot of you listen.
Find these dudes, these bitch made dudes on Instagram.
You comment no and you tag at Crystalia.
And I want to see these dudes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
So I can laugh.
joe rogan
Well, women position themselves as being different than other women, too.
Like, Amy Schumer's got a funny fucking sketch that she did on her show about that, about the girl who can hang.
It's like there's a girl who's like, hey, guys, I play.
Yeah, she's hilarious.
She's like, hey, guys, I love sports.
You know, come on.
You know, bitches are a fucking pain in the ass.
I'm tired of bitches.
I'll hang out with you guys.
And they'll position themselves as being different than all these other women that want a certain thing from a guy.
You know, like I knew this one chick, and she had no female friends, like none.
unidentified
But she was DTF all day.
joe rogan
She was down to fuck everybody.
And that was her thing.
She had all male friends.
And, you know, she had boyfriends, she always banged other dudes.
Well, she had boyfriends.
I mean, this chick was just always, but that was her hustle.
Her hustle was that she was, you know, one of the guys.
You know, and that's how she got all these guys to like, and she sort of morphed.
You know, I mean, kind of, that's kind of what she liked.
But really, when you would get to know her, what you really wanted was like a real steady relationship.
But guys, she had gotten in that trap where guys didn't take her seriously because she was banging guys while she had other boyfriends.
And it was always like chaos.
And where's the cigarette?
I got to get out of here.
I got to go.
I'm late.
You know, people, they get in that position where their whole life is like a constant, I'm late.
I got to go.
Fuck my life.
Fuck my life.
That was this chick.
She was just, it was always like, oh, Bobby thinks I'm fucking Steven.
She's like, it's all bullshit.
Steven and I have been friends for years.
I told him, well, are you fucking Steven?
I've been fucking Steven for like 10 years.
We went to college together.
It's like, not even, I mean, it's like, you know, he comes over and sometimes we're both horny.
Like, oh my God, you're crazy.
But her hustle was she was different than all the other girls.
She was like just one of the guys.
She could hang.
But she deep down inside wanted a committed relationship.
chris delia
Of course.
joe rogan
But no guy wanted to give it to her.
chris delia
Well, not if she's fucking all of his friends.
joe rogan
People morph, man.
They morph and become who they think that other people want them to be.
chris delia
That's true.
joe rogan
You know, whether they become a male feminist or whether they become a down ass bitch or whatever, you know, people.
And then along the way, they actually are that person.
Along the way, they actually become that person.
That becomes all they know of themselves.
unidentified
Yeah, well, if it's because that's what they're, you know, it's like OJ probably thinks he didn't kill his wife.
chris delia
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
I mean, I wonder.
I don't know.
That's what they say, but it's like if you the mind is fucking insane.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
You make yourself who you want to be.
joe rogan
I think it's totally possible that he really believes at this point.
chris delia
Yeah, I don't know if he does or does.
joe rogan
It's completely possible, though.
I mean, people have been way crazier than that, right?
Oh, yeah.
That's just crazy.
That's not super duper crazy crazy.
chris delia
No, it's not.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, if you lie to yourself for fucking 10, 15, what is it, 20 years now?
93?
94?
Something like that?
chris delia
Yeah, 20 years.
joe rogan
Yeah, 20 fucking years.
God, that flew by.
chris delia
Almost 20 years.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
People, they become like religious people.
Think about how many religious people have like almost the exact same way of talking, almost the exact same inflection.
Like how many late night preachers have the same way of talking?
unidentified
They all talk about God's word in the same way.
joe rogan
The same way, Crystalia.
chris delia
So weird.
joe rogan
Jesus came down with these rules.
Came down from the mountain.
chris delia
But why is that that they do that?
joe rogan
Because it's something they adopt.
Just like a male feminist adopts sort of an emote way of talking and a more subtle way of like, I'm more like, I'm less aggressive.
chris delia
It's more passive.
joe rogan
I'm like much, much more.
unidentified
People adopt even comedians to go on stage.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How many guys like, you remember when there was like 10 guys that sounded exactly like David Taylor?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
There was like 10 guys and everybody would just be like, they were doing a tell.
unidentified
They would go on stage and they would do a tell.
chris delia
But also with sports announcers, you know, that's the here we go out again.
Side retired.
That's not, when I do that, you're not like, oh, that's that sports announcer.
You're like, that's the sports announcer guy.
joe rogan
Or like morning zoo DJs.
I did a tour, one of those radio tours the other day where I was promoting something.
chris delia
They're the worst things ever, yeah.
joe rogan
They're not the worst things ever, but they are.
They're almost like North Korean prison.
chris delia
That would be on the list of worst things ever.
joe rogan
Nice folks, I'm sure.
chris delia
They're all nice individually, but when you have to do four hours of them, it's the worst.
joe rogan
Well, you really appreciate when you call one and it's like a good dude or a good gal.
You know how to say a good gal?
She's a good gal.
unidentified
That sounds like you're just being insulting viewers as you superimpose over your face.
joe rogan
She's a good gal.
But, you know, I did four hours of this shit, you know, from like 6 a.m. to 10 a.m.
And I spoke to 10 people that they're the exact same person.
All right, Chris Dahlia on the lawn.
Chris DeLia's new comedy tour starts this week.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
unidentified
Woo!
chris delia
Sound real.
And then there are questions.
So what's the deal?
When I did Undateable and I did these fucking things.
Are you undateable?
joe rogan
What is your fear factor?
unidentified
Oh, God.
joe rogan
That's what I used to get.
What are you afraid of, Joe?
unidentified
Because I'm sure you don't want to eat bugs, right?
chris delia
No.
Now what?
joe rogan
Now, the show's called undateable.
You're a good-looking guy, Chris.
unidentified
What's the deal?
Just what's the most undatable?
chris delia
What do you find a dateable little girl?
unidentified
Oh, always.
Always.
Always.
joe rogan
Floating shoes.
unidentified
Take them out.
joe rogan
Or Strip Club DJ coming to the stage with Lexus.
Mercedes on stage two.
Gentlemen, $15 kamikazes.
chris delia
All right, here we go, gentlemen.
Here she goes out.
Give it up for Anastasia.
joe rogan
And she's safe.
Next batter.
Yeah, it's, yeah, those inflections, those patterns that people choose.
They think that this is how a comedian's supposed to talk.
I'll talk like that, and then I'll be a comedian.
Like, I don't know if you did it, but a lot of comedians do it when they're starting out.
I had a real problem where I would mimic other comedians, and I would catch myself sounding like a- Well, if you watch too much, or if you're like, you know, in the beginning, you're like, I like that guy, you know, and then you go on stage, but you figure it out if you do it enough.
chris delia
Yes.
It's like reading one author and just siding with him.
And then you're like, wait, there's other books out there.
You got to read them all and then come with your own opinion.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're talking about Brian County.
chris delia
Yes, I am.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
We were talking about that earlier.
Motherfucker will get on.
He will read a book.
And he probably doesn't even read the book.
He reads like one chapter.
It's an amazing book.
You have to read this.
unidentified
And he basically figures out life.
joe rogan
And you're like, wait a minute.
Do you know that guy's crazy?
And I'll start sending him like debunk things.
Do you know that guy like disagrees with Nobel Prize winning scientists that he misquotes their work?
And I'll send him like all this fucking, Brian and I got in this huge argument once because he kept quoting this asshole that he had on his podcast.
So in the middle of the conversation, because I saved this on my phone because I was tired of having this conversation with him, I just start reading off all the different things where this guy has lied and said things wrong.
And you see him slowly get deflated.
I go, do you ever just Google debunked after that guy's name?
Just whatever guy you're doing.
chris delia
Is that what you do?
joe rogan
Yes, I do that with everybody.
I do that with everybody now that I have as a guest.
I had this one guy on named Dave Asprey.
And this guy is a nice guy.
He's a little Asperger-y.
And he said a bunch of shit.
chris delia
Okay, well, why'd you have him on in the first place?
joe rogan
I didn't know.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
chris delia
No, I don't mean that.
I mean, what was the reason he was on the show?
joe rogan
He's a knowledgeable guy.
He knows a lot of shit.
chris delia
About what, though?
joe rogan
He calls himself a biohacker.
chris delia
And how did you learn about him?
joe rogan
I think Tate Fletcher turned me into him.
Pretty sure.
Pretty sure it was Tate.
Tate loves, he created this, well, didn't create it, but he popularized this idea of mixing coffee with grass-fed butter and MCT oil.
So it's like a slow burn of the caffeine.
It's a delicious beverage.
That's really all it is.
But along the way, he started promoting this type of coffee that he has that's what's called mycotoxin-free.
This is a long story that has been beaten to death on this podcast.
So I don't want to get into it too much.
But after that guy, there was so much misinformation that I felt responsible for because I put it out and I repeated the things that he had told me.
So now I Google debunked.
And a lot of times when you Google debunked, you find out a bunch of fucking crazy people don't believe in a guy.
Like if you Google me debunked, you'll find out that I'm like a CIA disinformation agent who is hiding the truth about chemtrails.
chris delia
For real?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of people that believe that I'm a disinformation agent and then I'm hiding the truth about chemtrails.
Chemtrails, which are the evil spraying that the government does with planes.
When you see those contrails behind planes, those are artificial clouds, Crystalia.
unidentified
And those are being sprayed by the government.
The government.
joe rogan
Yeah.
People are out of their fucking mind.
I've been called a paid disinformation agent.
Like, they believe that I get paid.
Like, I'm waiting for my fucking checks.
First of all, I'm not getting any checks.
If I'm getting paid, it might be a lump sum at the end of my life.
But people, if you don't believe in the things that they believe in, they automatically assume that you're a government agent.
Like, I had this guy, Mick West, who was on the podcast, who he was on my sci-fi show too.
He runs this site called Metabunk, and it's all about debunking conspiracy theories.
And all people ever say is he works for the government.
This guy works for the government.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
He's a multi, multi-millionaire who sold a video game company, a super successful video game company.
He was a part of the video game company that makes like Tony Hawk videos and shit.
The dude's loaded.
And just he's into conspiracies.
He's a scientist, essentially, in a lot of ways.
I want to say he's a guy who's very educated and intellectually curious.
And so he tries to figure out what it is about people that makes them gravitate towards these unlikely scenarios that they believe that the government is spraying chemicals in the sky.
And all you hear about this guy is that he's a paid disinformation agent, which I know not to be true.
I know it's not true.
But people want to believe that kind of shit.
But it's more exciting if there's big secrets out there.
chris delia
Yeah, it certainly is.
Do you ever hear that shit and you're like, I mean, like, I don't know a dick about that stuff, you know?
So when I hear, like, there's a part of me that doesn't believe, even though I know it has happened for sure, they've covered stuff up.
Like, I think, like, come on, they can't do that shit.
I think that's how much of the world is.
joe rogan
Well, we talked about earlier the Nixon story that's out that I tweeted today.
That's a perfect example of there is fuckery in the world.
Like, Nixon tested the waters of trying to see if there's any support for a military coup against Congress.
That stuff does happen.
Look, Watergate did happen.
They did spy on people.
They did record.
Kent State did happen.
They did hire, they did take the National Guard and make them break up student protest and shoot students.
Shoot American students, non-violent, non-armed.
They did that.
there's a lot of shit that's been done.
So I think conspiracies are real.
But I think that the problem is that most people don't go into any scenario with an open mind.
They don't really try to find out all the facts.
They have a predetermined idea that they want to, they want that conclusion to be, you know, they want it to be valid.
They want to validate their conclusion more than they want to objectively look at the truth.
chris delia
Yeah, that's a fucking huge problem.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, it's a huge problem.
Well, like, look, here's another thing.
Like, say, you were talking about, like, you're a good guy.
Right.
But if somebody wanted to find dirt on you, if they wanted to dig deep, you were the president, they could find something fucked up about you.
Well, in finding that fucked up thing about you, that one fucked up thing, they could decide, well, Chris DeLeah, he got drunk once and jerked off in this girl's hair and you fucking asshole.
They could decide he is a chronic masturbator in girls' hair while they're drunk.
Like, this is what he does.
It's all he does.
This is his whole life.
Everything else is just setting himself up so he could jerk off of people's hair.
Like, they could decide that one thing that you've done, you made a who you are all the time.
They'll find one aspect of your personality that, you know, like, maybe you did this once, or maybe you ran a red light, and they'll just say, he's a fucking reckless driver.
We've got.
chris delia
Red light runner.
joe rogan
He's a red light runner.
This guy's an asshole.
Did you see this Tony Stewart thing?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Do you know what I'm saying?
chris delia
Oh, no.
What happened?
joe rogan
I ran over a guy.
He's a NASCAR driver.
And he ran over a guy.
We were talking about it on the way home.
And we were driving home from La Jolla.
We did the, not La Jolla, San Diego this weekend.
Did American Comedy?
chris delia
Yeah, I know you were going there.
joe rogan
And as we were driving back, it was right when it was breaking, right?
And Tony Stewart, who's this big-time NASCAR driver, ran over a guy in this dirt race.
What are those called?
jamie vernon
Sprint car, I think.
joe rogan
Sprint car.
They ride, there's crazy cars.
They're weird-looking cars.
They have like wings on them, and they drive around the dirt.
And he hit this guy's car.
The guy got out of the car and was yelling at Tony Stewart.
Tony Stewart ran him over with his car.
It's really fucked up.
chris delia
He meant to do it?
joe rogan
See, that's where things get weird.
He says absolutely not.
Of course, the local cops, whoever investigated it, they're not pressing charges.
They think it was a total accident.
But now, because of that, everybody starts pulling up all the different shit that this guy's done right past driving.
chris delia
Of course.
joe rogan
Because apparently he's bumped people's cars before.
He's a very aggressive driver.
And there's been a lot of aggressive drivers.
I'm completely new to this stuff.
I don't follow racing.
Yeah, neither do I. But Tony Hinchcliffe does.
And Hinchcliffe was the one that told me that Tony Stewart is known for being this really super aggressive driver.
So now I'm reading all this stuff online, and these people are just bringing up all these times in the past where he's clipped cars, or he's yelled at people, or he's hit people.
He's a maniac, and they're concentrating all on this, the negative aspects of this guy.
All negative aspects to try.
I mean, I don't understand exactly what it is.
chris delia
And it's because they want to believe that he hit Red.
joe rogan
They want to believe he hit him on purpose.
They want to believe that he hit the gas when he's near the guy because he knew the ass in the car would kick out.
And if the ass in the car kicked out, the guy would get run over.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
Like, it's just one of those things where when something happens, if something goes wrong, people will find the one thing and then concentrate wholly on that.
Instead of like, I mean, this is pure speculation because I don't know exactly what happened.
Instead of, you know, maybe he did drive aggressive and knocked that guy on the wall and the guy got out of his fucking car and the guy was on the track yelling at him.
And I don't understand.
I've never raced.
I don't know what it's like, but I would imagine that there's some really fucking split-second decision making going on.
You're flying around a track and you see a guy on the fucking track pointing at you.
I would imagine that the decisions like the pro and con, do this and you're going to be okay.
Do that and that guy's going to die.
There's such a small window of error because this guy's walking around on a fucking racetrack.
You're not supposed to get out of your car and walk around.
But all these people all online, I've been looking at it all day yesterday.
All of them are saying that he killed this guy.
So many people are blaming him for it.
chris delia
Well, that's also the people who write on the internet, though.
joe rogan
That's true.
chris delia
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
But even eyewitnesses, people who were there at the time.
I don't know.
I mean, maybe it's not the best example.
chris delia
No, it's a good example.
It definitely is.
joe rogan
But there's kind of a lot of evidence that he's a wild man.
chris delia
Well, but what you're saying is totally different than fucking just running a guy over intentionally.
joe rogan
But it could be that he was trying to bump into him.
Like he was trying to bump him with his car and instead he.
chris delia
But how fast was he going?
joe rogan
I don't know.
jamie vernon
They said 25 to 35.
He's under caution.
chris delia
So not even that fast.
joe rogan
It was under caution.
That's not fast at all.
So you would think at 25 he'd be able to not hit the guy.
chris delia
Maneuver out of the way, yeah.
joe rogan
Did he hit his gas?
unidentified
They don't know.
jamie vernon
That's why people are saying ESPN maybe muted the audio so you can't hear that.
But there's also a lot of people yelling.
They just muted the audio probably just in general.
joe rogan
Let's watch it.
Let's watch it.
chris delia
It's five to watch.
joe rogan
It's fucked up to watch because you know a guy died.
chris delia
But I don't like watching that shit.
You ever watch that Faces of Death shit?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
chris delia
Yeah, I watched it when I was a kid and I was like, nah, I can't watch this anymore.
joe rogan
Today, kids are so spoiled.
They could just Google murder and just watch a hundred videos.
chris delia
But where?
Where do you even watch that shit?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Live leak.
Liveleak.com.
chris delia
Live leak sounds scary.
joe rogan
It is scary.
It's WorldStar Hip Hop Plus Murder.
Live Leak is like all the most fucked up things on the internet.
Like, here's it.
Let's go full screen on this shit so we can go with it.
jamie vernon
This is going to show the initial accident.
joe rogan
See those cars?
They're like dump trucks.
What are we looking at?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
It's just froze.
joe rogan
Powerful internet.
jamie vernon
On forgetting.
Sorry.
joe rogan
It's on dead spin.
Yeah, it sometimes does that when you go full screen, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Get it together.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
We might have lost it.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
I got a beach ball.
chris delia
Do a color wheel?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
We got a beach ball from that?
That's it?
Well, click it off and try again.
Reboot it.
Or forcecar.
jamie vernon
It's going to take a long time.
joe rogan
That piece of shit computer.
Why do we still have that computer?
Is there any benefit in keeping?
We'll talk about this off the air.
See if you can pull that up, though.
See if we can pull it up on another site.
Does it allow you to pull another site up?
chris delia
But that's a NASCAR guy you said?
jamie vernon
I'll work on it.
I'll let you know if I find it.
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's a NASCAR guy.
chris delia
But that wasn't NASCAR.
joe rogan
That wasn't NASCAR.
chris delia
What the fuck was that?
joe rogan
Some crazy dirt race.
Well, I think those guys that race, they race in all kinds of shit.
unidentified
They just are like, just get me in a fucking car.
chris delia
It's like us with comedy.
Just get me on stage somewhere.
joe rogan
Yeah, like they do.
Chris DeLee's doing a coffee shop?
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
He's got an NBC show.
chris delia
I'll play a laundromat.
joe rogan
I'll do a coffee shop.
I got to do what I have.
Do you do open mics?
Do you show up at like weird spots and do sets on?
chris delia
Ever since I started getting into clubs like a few years ago and just being able to go up wherever I want, you know, I was like, I just was like, why would I go play Buzz Coffee?
You know what I mean?
Why would I go play?
unidentified
Because it's just like, because there's going to be, oh, because there's going to be an audience at a comedy club.
chris delia
So go there.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
A real audience.
chris delia
Yeah.
And, you know, I don't know.
Some of these alt rooms are fucking awesome.
But then it's like, some of them are.
joe rogan
They're dog shit.
chris delia
Yeah, they're dog shit.
And then they'll pretend they're awesome.
And then you get to the gig and they're like, I mean, last week was great.
I don't know what happened.
How many times have you fucking heard that?
joe rogan
There's a lot of alt rooms are real weird in that like alt rooms that like almost like everyone's making an agreement to put out as little energy as possible.
And then if you come along and you've got you're enthusiastic, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
What are you doing, man?
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
Don't you know this is an alt room?
What are you trying to be funny?
You're trying too hard to be funny.
You're trying.
But there was like a, there's a stigma in alt rooms on trying to entertain.
Like, you don't want to try.
chris delia
You don't try.
unidentified
To that idea, I just say write a book.
chris delia
Write a book.
joe rogan
No, they want you to be on stage and be like that.
chris delia
But that's not to me.
I mean, look, dude, fucking some of the alt comic, whatever, funny's funny.
I don't give a fuck.
You know, somebody's all comic is hilarious and some of them are fucking hilarious.
joe rogan
Very few.
chris delia
Alt comics?
joe rogan
Very few are hilarious.
chris delia
However, very few comics are hilarious.
joe rogan
That's true too.
But out of all comics, it's very few, very few.
unidentified
It's been a while since I've been to one of those true, true alt, you know, like Meltdown's good and shit.
joe rogan
But is that alt though?
chris delia
No, it's not.
It's not.
joe rogan
It's like Chris Hardwick, who's on Comedy Central.
It's his thing.
chris delia
Yeah, I guess you're right.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want to fucking hate Kool-Aid the whole room.
Just fucking run right through it.
chris delia
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
A lot of those alt shows.
chris delia
Well, you put some of those guys up on the comedy store, it's like...
Yeah, it's different.
It's a different show.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's why they built those rooms in the first place.
chris delia
In the first place, right.
That's why those rooms exist.
So that's why I'm saying, if you can get into the comedy clubs, get in the fucking comedy clubs.
unidentified
Yeah.
chris delia
Those people are paying to see comedy, and it has the word comedy in the fucking thing.
unidentified
Comedy club.
chris delia
That's what it's for.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
It's not fucking, you know.
joe rogan
Buzz coffee.
chris delia
Buzz coffee.
joe rogan
Yeah, Freddie Soto stopped doing those a long time ago before he died.
He used to tell people, like, they would always ask him, you know, hey, will you do my room?
I'll get this thing.
No.
chris delia
I had a guy, dude, okay.
I had a guy the other night.
I don't know his name, but he was at the, you know, at the comedy store?
They'll be like, fucking, you'll be, literally like Jim Carrey will show up and then somebody will be like, hey, will you be in my documentary?
And you're like, like, there's just fucking derelicts there.
Do you know what I mean?
unidentified
I was at a comedy, a show, and I was at the comedy store.
And then some kid was like, hey, man, I was wondering if you want to come by and do my room.
chris delia
And I was like, oh, well, where is it?
What is it?
unidentified
He's like, yeah, it's this, it's, well, it's this, it's on Saturday night and it's this pizza place.
And, you know, we can't pay you, but it'd be awesome if you like did 15 minutes and you can have like the whatever pizza you want.
chris delia
And I said, you have to repeat yourself because I think I heard what you said, but can you just say it again?
And he said it again.
And I said, dude, I can't be doing that.
I didn't know how to say it.
unidentified
I was like, I can't be doing that.
joe rogan
I can't be doing your pizza performance.
chris delia
And then I said, you want me to perform for pizza?
unidentified
I was like, I can't be doing that.
chris delia
And then I turned to the guy that was next to us, that wasn't with me or him, and I said, did you hear this guy?
And I was trying not to be a dick, but it was amazing.
But it's hard to not be like, hey, bro, I'm on billboards.
It's hard to do that.
joe rogan
I'm on actual television, like a real TV show.
chris delia
It's hard to not be a dick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, I know what you're saying.
It's a weird situation when someone asks you to do something like that, but to them, it's like stage time.
You know, that's how they get stage time.
And they see you like, maybe Chris will do my room.
The problem with those rooms is most of the people there are not there to see comedy.
If you're doing comedy to pizza players.
chris delia
They're sitting this way eating the pizza.
joe rogan
They're trying to do it.
chris delia
And the stage is over there.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you're interrupting, really.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, it's kind of rude.
It's not like you set up and play a song.
unidentified
See, if you sat up and zone out and listen to the music and eat.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's no problem.
But if you're like talking about your eight-year-old cousin, that requires people to pay attention.
chris delia
You have to pay attention.
Yeah.
You can't tell a fucking story to somebody who's not listening to the story.
joe rogan
Right.
You'll have like 20 people in the crowd, and at any given time, one person will be paying attention to the story, but they'll lose you, and then a new person will pay attention.
chris delia
What is he talking about?
joe rogan
So people are paying attention.
It's like in short bursts.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
So you have the video now?
chris delia
Yep.
joe rogan
Jamie's got the video now.
unidentified
Nice, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe.
Okay, so here's the dudes.
Look at these weird wings they have on their cars.
chris delia
Oh, yeah, I've seen those fireplaces.
joe rogan
So he spun the guy out.
Okay, so he...
chris delia
So that's the guy that he hit first?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's the back it all the way up to the beginning.
Here you go.
So they're going around the corner, and he clipped the guy with his tail.
chris delia
Did he?
joe rogan
Okay, yeah, it looked like his tire bumped into the guy.
The guy spun around.
They're all flying, right?
chris delia
This guy gets out.
joe rogan
Yeah, so this guy's pissed.
He climbs out of his car and he's pointing to him.
You, you fucker, you hit me.
You fucking hit me.
Wow, this is crazy.
This guy's crazy.
chris delia
Did he just hit him?
Oh, wait.
jamie vernon
Boom, right there.
joe rogan
Right there.
Boom.
He hit him.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Oh, man.
See, I don't know enough, bro.
chris delia
He was going about 25 miles an hour?
jamie vernon
Roughly, yeah, and they're saying people were able to avoid him.
chris delia
You'd think that they'd be able to avoid him.
I mean, it looks pretty bad.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
Just from, I don't know anything about it, but Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Well, they're also saying that when you hit the gas, like your ass end kicks out because it's all dirt, so it's sliding right.
So when he hit the gas on purpose, making the ass slide out.
Like he was going to flip the guy, like he was going to bump him out of the way.
chris delia
He would certainly know that as a driver.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
chris delia
Well, that's a fucking.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, he would know that.
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
chris delia
Well, the craziest thing about that is that the guy got out.
joe rogan
The guy's a crazy fucker for getting out like that.
And then running on the track and voiding cars and pointing at this guy like, you fucking did this to me.
Like, wow.
chris delia
Also, isn't that the game to do that to somebody?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
chris delia
No, I don't know.
jamie vernon
There's no rule about it, apparently.
joe rogan
There's no rule about accidentally hitting guests.
jamie vernon
No, on getting out in the car, I'm sorry.
On getting out of the car.
Oh, no, I just mean.
joe rogan
What do you mean there's no rule?
jamie vernon
They don't have a rule about that.
joe rogan
It's not illegal to get out of your car.
jamie vernon
ESPN yesterday I was hearing the debate about should they make a rule about this.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, you should make a rule.
Stay in your fucking car.
What are you crazy?
Because if he got clipped in the car, he probably would have been fine.
If someone came along and the guy's...
chris delia
He was fine.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Exactly.
Right.
And at high speed.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right.
And then there were other cautions.
jamie vernon
I think maybe only you have to stay in.
You can get out if your car's on fire, if like if it's a life-changing situation.
joe rogan
Yeah, that makes sense.
chris delia
Shit.
Yeah, you can't watch shit like that, man.
I saw an image of that guy of that terrorist stacking those three heads on the fucking thing, and I was like, no.
I don't know if you saw that, but that's like.
joe rogan
I remember the first one from the Iraq war where we watched a guy get his head cut off on video.
chris delia
And you can watch that shit?
joe rogan
Well, I mean, I can.
I have.
I don't like it.
chris delia
Like, even two girls, one cup.
I'm like, nah.
Nah.
Oh, she shits in her mouth?
Nah.
joe rogan
I'm good.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
Oh, isn't there a video of you watching that?
Yeah, that's right.
I saw that video.
joe rogan
Barely watched it.
I have hosted Fear Factor for six years, and I still had to turn away.
Think about all the shit that I've seen.
But you could throw up in front of me, and I never, I don't gag.
That's like I'm in charge of throw up around my house.
Like anytime anybody throws up, and I just, when my little girls throw up, I always clean it up.
My wife just gives it to me.
Like, I handle it.
It doesn't bother me.
I'm immune to puke.
It's like it used to be when I was a kid, somebody threw up in the room, all this extra saliva would be in my mouth.
chris delia
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And I would have to look away or I'd throw up.
If someone threw up in the hallway, I'd be gagging.
But not now.
It's over.
I cleaned up puke the other night.
My little girl, my four-year-old was sick.
Just threw up in the bed.
Who cleans it up?
Me.
I go in there, towels and shit, picking up all the sheets, putting the puke into a big puke, like one of those little stork things that the stork characters do.
chris delia
Yeah, yeah.
My dad, first time I threw up, when I was a kid, my dad tells a story where he's like, you know, you don't know what's happening to your body.
You know, you're like, what the heck?
I feel weird, like nauseous.
And my dad identified it and he was like, oh, you're going to throw up.
He was like, this is normal.
joe rogan
How old are you?
unidentified
I don't know.
chris delia
I was 32.
Stupid joke.
unidentified
And I don't know, young, young, young, you know.
chris delia
And he was like, you're going to throw up and it's going to be fine.
And I was so, I was like, I don't know what's going on.
unidentified
You know, I don't know what's going on.
chris delia
And he turned me to him and he said, look, it's fine.
Just throw up on me.
You're going to throw up and it's going to just go all over me and it's fine.
And he said that that made me relax.
unidentified
And he said that I just want and throw up all over him.
chris delia
But this is fucking cute, I thought.
But it was like, I just thought this funny thing about like the first time that that shit happens with you as like you're like, that's scary as shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is scary as shit the first time.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're like, what's happening?
Is there something trying to get out of my body?
chris delia
Yeah.
But food poisoning is the worst.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Food poisoning is the worst.
When it's coming out and you're like, ah, and you're screaming it out.
chris delia
You know what I mean?
Violent.
joe rogan
I had food poisoning in a while.
I should knock on wood.
chris delia
I had it once.
joe rogan
I've had it a couple times.
But I had it real bad.
One time in Illinois.
Oh, it was awful.
I couldn't clench my fist.
Like, my hands were so weak.
It was just so...
chris delia
Both ways.
joe rogan
Yeah, what can you do to prevent...
Someone told me if you have some funky shit inside your stomach, if you eat raw garlic, raw garlic apparently destroys a lot of bad bacteria.
chris delia
Yeah.
You just got to sit down near the toilet and just fucking curl up.
joe rogan
And dale, son.
chris delia
And just shit and puke.
joe rogan
I heard garlic.
I heard garlic is really good for you.
chris delia
Yeah, but it takes a while to get down there.
You're fucking shitting and puking.
joe rogan
The way I eat, bro.
chris delia
You put it in your head.
joe rogan
You just fucking chos it down.
I give it an express delivery.
I put it on the end of my thumb.
I go like that.
chris delia
It hits the back of my shit and just goes right down.
joe rogan
It goes right down like a chute.
Yeah, they didn't need to figure that out.
There should be a way to scan things when you find out if it's got food poisoning.
You know, like just, why doesn't someone come out with a scanner?
Like some thing that just can read the contents of the food with like, oh, there's E. coli over your fucking salad.
Don't eat it.
chris delia
It'll happen.
joe rogan
You know, that's the number one thing that people get sick from.
chris delia
Really?
joe rogan
Salad.
chris delia
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I know that salad's bad.
joe rogan
Fucking salad.
Salad gives people food poisoning.
chris delia
I know you wouldn't think it was meat, but or some shit.
Fish.
joe rogan
Yeah, you would think it was like bad fish or bad meat.
chris delia
Salad is because they don't.
joe rogan
It's not washed right.
chris delia
Yeah, it's not washed right, but yeah.
joe rogan
Well, remember all those people were dying from spinach?
It's because the spinach was tainted with E. coli.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
Waste from cows and shit?
Found what?
jamie vernon
There's a electronic nose that sniffs out food poisoning.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
What?
joe rogan
An app?
jamie vernon
It sniffs out E. coli, I think you put it in.
Come on.
joe rogan
What?
New electronic nose sniffs out food poisoning.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Isn't it amazing when you say something thinking like this is 20 years away from this?
Yeah, completely impossible.
No one's going to ever come up with something like that.
How is that possible?
It really works?
jamie vernon
It checks the freshness and quality of meat, poultry, and fish.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
And it's an app.
What's the app called?
I'll download that fucker right now.
jamie vernon
I mean, you probably have to have it next to something.
joe rogan
It doesn't look like it.
unidentified
There's no way you just take your phone and fucking go like this.
jamie vernon
P-E-R-E-S.
joe rogan
P-E-R-E-S?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what it's called?
jamie vernon
Yes.
joe rogan
All right.
I'm downloading that bitch right now, and let's see if it works.
I'm going to put it on Crystalia and see if he's edible.
P-E-R-E-S.
Okay.
jamie vernon
P-E-E-NOS.
World's first portable E-NOS, and its iOS Android mobile app enables users to determine quality, freshness of meat, poultry, and fish, and whether it's gone bad and could potentially cause food portions.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
It's called P-E-R-E-S?
What's the name of the app?
jamie vernon
I believe it's what it says.
Developers say Perrys or P or Piris.
joe rogan
P-E-R-E-S.
Hmm.
But is this available already?
jamie vernon
I'm going to assume no.
joe rogan
Yeah, because when I went to P-E-R-E-S, it gives me some Russian shit.
chris delia
Uh-oh.
Back to that spy.
joe rogan
Perestroika.
That's what it gives you.
Yeah, that's what comes up.
jamie vernon
Here's the video there.
joe rogan
Russian writing and shit.
See if it says that it's actually available.
Yeah, pull the video up.
Let's listen to it.
unidentified
Play it from the beginning so we can actually...
chris delia
Beads go into a green thing.
Detecting food.
unidentified
In the USA, 76 million cases of foodborne illness resulting in 325,000 hospitalizations and 5,000 deaths.
joe rogan
First of all, pause that.
Why does that guy talk like that?
In the USA.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
350 million people.
chris delia
It sounds like bullshit already.
unidentified
Numbers.
76 cases of foodborne illnesses resulting in 32500.
joe rogan
5,000 deaths are estimated to occur each year.
Holy shit.
chris delia
That doesn't surprise me.
That surprises you?
joe rogan
That's a lot.
chris delia
Really?
joe rogan
There's so many people.
That is true.
A lot of fucking people.
But 5,000 deaths from foodborne illness.
All right, play it out.
unidentified
Occur each year.
The Peres story began when the team who created the device collaborated with scientists from Kaunas University of Technology in Lithuania.
After more than a year of research and development, the team has now created a second working prototype of the Peres device.
PARES works by taking a sample of the air from around the pork, beef, poultry, or fish.
By detecting the concentration of volatile organic compounds and other gases in the sample and adjusting them according to temperature and humidity, it calculates the freshness and quality of the food product.
Using sensor array and Bluetooth technology, data are transmitted directly to a smartphone or tablet for calculation of sample data.
Users immediately put up their phones to help them make an intrans choice.
It smells your food and safety of their pork, beef, poultry, and fish.
And share and discuss the food.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, I'm a fart right into that thing.
unidentified
or just breaks imagine what if your farty called your mom *laughter* Get Joey Deas to fart into that thing.
Second prototype is an attractive streamline.
Yeah, well, if it's another device, I mean, I thought they were forgetting.
joe rogan
But saying it's a prototype, so it's not ready to read it on your hand.
But they're saying prototype.
unidentified
We ask you for contribution to convert Ferris Protoxic.
chris delia
Yeah, we can trust this guy.
unidentified
ask you for contribution.
chris delia
Trust me.
joe rogan
Okay, give me money and I'm going to make this.
chris delia
I swear to God, it works.
joe rogan
I swear to God in Mother Russia.
chris delia
I promise you.
joe rogan
And swear to Anna Chapman, who if I make enough money, I can make wedding vow with her.
The Russian spy who is a family.
She will leave me.
chris delia
Edward Snowden.
joe rogan
She will leave this traitor, Edward Snowden, and come with me to make food safe for everyone.
Give money to Kickstarter.
Everybody's got a fucking Kickstarter, man.
I'm getting a little annoyed with people's Kickstarters.
You know, there's people that have Kickstarters that are like for their own business and they actually have money already.
Like, whatever happened to just investing your fucking money?
You know, why are you trying to steal money from everybody?
chris delia
Yeah, but isn't that how investment works, though?
No?
I mean, you get other people to invest in it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Kickstarter is like, some of the Kickstarter ones are pretty cool.
chris delia
I don't know much about Kickstarter.
All I know is that people are giving Zach Braff shit, and I don't think that that's cool that they're giving Zach Braff.
Zach Braff was the guy who made Garden Estate, the guy from Scrubs.
joe rogan
Okay.
chris delia
And he put out a Kickstarter to fund his next film, and people gave him money to make his next film.
And I think that that's cool.
joe rogan
Why are people giving him shit?
chris delia
Because they're like, well, he's made a lot of money.
Why didn't he do it?
It's like, what are you talking about?
That's not how investment works.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess so.
Put it that way, though, actually, Kickstarter makes sense then.
chris delia
Well, because people, they're like, well, I mean, because movies cost, well, because movies cost millions of dollars.
unidentified
That's why.
chris delia
And yeah, he's got millions of dollars, but what kind of fucking asshole is going to be like, oh, I'm going to make this movie.
I'm going to put $10 million into it.
joe rogan
Mel Gibson.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's how he got rich as fuck.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
But meanwhile, I don't think he's rich as fuck anymore.
chris delia
No, really?
unidentified
No.
Apparently.
chris delia
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Took a beating.
Mel took a bath.
The ex-wife got a big chunk.
The girlfriend who yelled.
No, that was the girlfriend.
That wasn't the wife.
That was just some Russian chick he knocked up.
chris delia
That was with Russians, man.
Spying and recording.
joe rogan
Spying, recording, video.
chris delia
Be careful what you say around a Russian.
joe rogan
Very mercenary.
Well, that was the perfect.
What is this?
jamie vernon
The potato salad.
This kid asked for $10 to make potato salad on Kickstarter, and he ended up getting over $55,000 for it.
joe rogan
So what happens with that?
He gets to keep that money?
jamie vernon
He's actually going to throw a party in Columbus and have a big concert and donate like $35,000 to charity and start a non-profit to deal with some two.
joe rogan
That's a nice guy.
chris delia
But that's just an updated version of pet rock.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
You know?
joe rogan
The guy who made the pet rock made a fucking kajillion dollars.
Pet Rock made a lot of fucking money.
chris delia
I know.
joe rogan
I remember that.
I was a kid when that was going on.
The pet rock.
It's ridiculous.
chris delia
I think that was it, the 70s?
That was before me, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I believe it was.
chris delia
A guy basically packaged rocks.
Rocks, and that's it.
joe rogan
And sold them in stores.
chris delia
And this is before internet.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Not one person bought them.
No.
Millions.
chris delia
Yeah, he made a lot of money.
joe rogan
I wonder how much the pet rock made.
What do you guess?
I want to bet I want to say he made 50 million bucks.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
Jesus.
joe rogan
How much do you think?
chris delia
It can't be 50.
joe rogan
I bet he made about 50 million bucks.
How much do you think?
chris delia
I'd say a few million, three, four million.
joe rogan
Okay, marketing.
unidentified
Let's see.
chris delia
I don't know much about it, though.
joe rogan
A few million?
That's it?
chris delia
I guess I'd like to believe that.
joe rogan
Pet Rock Millionaire offers new method to get stoned.
That's an actual copy of a newspaper.
How much is this going to make?
Development doesn't say.
How could the Wikipedia not say?
I would think that would be one of the first things that people 1.5 million pet rocks.
chris delia
Oh, so then at least.
joe rogan
How much do they cost?
chris delia
A few dollars, right?
joe rogan
The fad lasted about six months, ending after a short increase in sales during the Christmas season of December 1975.
unidentified
Timing.
joe rogan
Although by February 1976, they were discounted due to lower sales.
He sold 1.5 million pet rocks and became a millionaire.
chris delia
Crazy.
joe rogan
A 32-page official training manual titled The Care and Training of Your Pet Rock was included with instructions on how to properly raise and care for one's new pet rock, notably lacking instructions for feeding, bathing, etc.
So if it costs five bucks, Homeboy made a lot of money.
He made five million dollars.
20 bucks now.
chris delia
You can still buy the shit?
jamie vernon
Yeah, same petrock.com.
joe rogan
Same company, you think?
jamie vernon
Yep, since 1975.
chris delia
Wow.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Yeah, since then he sold 10.
Yeah.
In 1975, he sold 1.5 million.
chris delia
He's been going real bad, slipped off, dude.
joe rogan
I don't know what happened.
chris delia
First six months were great.
joe rogan
After Watergate, people just got real squirrely about their money.
chris delia
I blame 9-11.
joe rogan
The Mel Gibson one was probably, we were just playing, worse than Kramer or the same?
chris delia
Worse.
I think not.
No.
Well, the Kramer one was worse because it was videotaped.
joe rogan
Right.
That's true.
chris delia
You saw in his eyes hate.
joe rogan
That's true.
chris delia
If Mel Gibson, you're like, yeah, but he's an actor and you heard it and who knows.
joe rogan
It was so funny.
chris delia
It was fucked up.
joe rogan
Just shut up and blow me.
But it's fucked up that we're getting a window into this guy's.
chris delia
I kind of feel like you should be able to say whatever you want in your house and they can't use that against you.
joe rogan
Well, definitely.
You know, especially because there's a lot of times, like we were talking about jokes.
Like I have this whole bid in my act about the difference between someone joking and someone's.
chris delia
Oh, yeah.
I saw you do it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But the point is that when you're on stage in a comedy club, you should assume that someone's fucking around.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
Right.
Because you know what you came to see.
You know you came to see comedy.
Well, when you're at home, you don't expect that other people are going to hear what you're saying.
So there's a lot of times people just say fucked up shit.
chris delia
And not even mean it.
joe rogan
You're fucking cunt.
unidentified
I hope you rot at the bottom of a million pound pile of dog shit.
chris delia
And by the way, you're by yourself when you say that.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe.
chris delia
Because why not?
You're fucking home and you're alone.
joe rogan
Or you're at home and you've got your dick in your hand and you're talking to your girlfriend on the phone and she's being an asshole to you and she won't come over and have sex with you.
So you just scream because you're drunk.
You scream some horrible upsetting that you don't mean at all.
chris delia
No.
joe rogan
And the next day it's on the internet.
You're like, I was fucking kidding.
I wasn't being serious.
Yeah, there's statements.
There's public statements and then there's things that can be turned into public statements if they record you and then just transmit it.
And that's what happened with Mel Gibson.
That destroyed him.
He was a giant superstar.
chris delia
Really?
Really?
unidentified
But was that more just the business of things that weren't going well for him?
chris delia
Or was he at the top of his game?
I can't remember when that happened.
joe rogan
He was at the top of his game.
Two things happened to him.
Two things happened to him.
unidentified
The anti-Semite thing.
To me, that was what buried him.
joe rogan
But the anti-Semite thing was, there was no recording, right?
unidentified
Right.
chris delia
No, I don't think there was.
joe rogan
Was there?
Does cops record everything?
unidentified
I don't think there was.
joe rogan
I don't know if there was.
I don't believe it got out publicly, but I do believe that the cops were saying that Mel Gibson was calling them Jews and saying that the Jews control Hollywood.
And also his dad is like a Holocaust denier.
chris delia
And also he was drunk driving, right?
joe rogan
Yes.
chris delia
Right.
unidentified
So that in itself is just like, oh, he's a fuck up.
joe rogan
Yeah, those things are all bad.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
Drunk driving and screaming about Jews.
People frown upon those.
That combination of people.
unidentified
Really, even if you're screaming positive things about Jews.
joe rogan
You're hammering.
chris delia
You're just like, it's not a good look.
unidentified
It's just weird.
chris delia
You would lose some validity in your.
joe rogan
You open your door, your car door, fucking beer cans fall out, you fall onto the highway.
unidentified
You're like, I love corned beef.
joe rogan
Bagels are the shit.
unidentified
I wish I had a Yamicon right now.
joe rogan
His dad is apparently a serious anti-Semite.
unidentified
But enough of those things, a few of those things will bury you.
Yeah.
chris delia
You know, and if you're screaming about, fuck you, come over while you're.
joe rogan
Well, I also think there's a mental illness aspect to it, too.
I think some people just have something wrong with that.
unidentified
But also, how do you be famous for 40 years?
joe rogan
And super stupid famous.
chris delia
But yeah, no, not famous like you're on a show.
unidentified
Right.
chris delia
He's Mel fucking Gibson.
joe rogan
He's Mad Max.
chris delia
How do you be famous, that famous, for 40 years and just be like, be normal?
joe rogan
We have to ask Tom Cruise.
We have to pull Tom Cruise aside.
Tom Cruise is the best at it, I think.
unidentified
Yeah, but you see him cracking a little bit sometimes.
joe rogan
He's crazy.
chris delia
All right, I know, but you see him holding it together.
joe rogan
Well, when he was on the Today Show and he was talking to that dude, Matt, whatever his name is, Matt Lowry.
chris delia
Yeah, Matt Lowry.
joe rogan
About psychedelic or psychiatric drugs.
chris delia
Uh-huh, right.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that?
You're being glib, man.
chris delia
About very glib.
Glib shields and he talked about her.
Well, I, but, dude, there's, let me tell you something right now.
There's no fucking way if I was Tom Cruise, dude, I wouldn't even be on the Today Show.
joe rogan
I'd be.
chris delia
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm saying I wouldn't be allowed there because I would already have fucked up completely.
I would be on buildings screaming shit out, positive and negative about Jews.
Just everything.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
Just, just, just, who cares?
I would be the worst guy.
There's no way.
I'm on a fucking show, kind of.
And that already, I'm already getting nuts.
joe rogan
Do you think that, yeah.
chris delia
More power to Tom.
Tom Cruise is amazing for that.
joe rogan
Do you think that the average person could ever understand what it would be like to be scrutinized on just the level that you're scrutinized on?
Just being on a show, having people talk shit about you online, reading Twitter pages, communicating with seeing people talk about you and just overwhelming.
chris delia
It's hard to not respond to every single one.
It's hard to...
And people just wrote racist.
unidentified
No, the hat's fucking weird looking.
joe rogan
You're a racist.
chris delia
I didn't even know that your girl was black until people were saying it.
I was like, oh, yeah, I guess she's black.
There's nothing fucking racist about you.
joe rogan
You're racist.
unidentified
Tom 46 or whatever the fuck?
joe rogan
Do you respond to them?
chris delia
Sometimes I do.
Yeah.
I have a bit about it that I do.
Sometimes there's like a guy, I get into a thing where they go, fuck you, fuck you.
unidentified
I say to the person, I'll fuck your whole family.
chris delia
And then the person runs back, I'm eight.
And he was eight.
He was a fucking eight-year-old.
You never know who these people are.
joe rogan
That is a problem.
A lot of times you're dealing with like little kids.
You're getting into things with little kids.
chris delia
But you don't know because you just fuck you.
Oh, all right, bro.
And you're bored as shit.
You're on the road.
I'm coming for you, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, I used to get in those.
I got into things.
chris delia
I can't imagine you didn't.
I can't imagine you didn't.
You're like the Tupac of comedians.
joe rogan
I'm the Tupac.
I don't know what that means.
chris delia
Just like fucking.
Like, I'll get you.
You know what I mean?
If this happened, I'll fuck with you.
joe rogan
I'll get you.
I had a guy who was tweeting me back and forth, or it was MySpace, MySpacing me back and forth way back in the day.
He was saying really mean shit to me.
And then I just engaged him and went back and blessed him.
And then I put it online.
I put like our whole conversation online.
And people got so mad at me.
He was 20.
I didn't know he was 20.
chris delia
I know.
joe rogan
But then I started commenting on what I was doing when I was 20 and how he's a loser in comparison to me.
chris delia
That's funny as shit, though.
But people will be like, yo, people will be like, I'll just, people will make fun, will say, you're shitty or whatever.
And I'll just, I'll look at their picture and I'll be like, you're a six.
Like, that's how good looking you are.
joe rogan
A guy or a girl.
chris delia
Either.
unidentified
And then I will get just, that's not cool, dude.
chris delia
Well, yeah, but you entered the octagon here.
I make fun of things.
That's what I do for a living.
joe rogan
Right.
chris delia
So if you tweet me, fuck you and your show, you entered the octagon.
Right.
Done.
joe rogan
But then the other people public, the other people that aren't even involved in it, then they'll come after you.
Not cool, bro.
unidentified
That's where you get fucked and you're like, ah, fuck.
chris delia
Whatever.
joe rogan
It's wasted energy.
chris delia
It is wasted energy.
joe rogan
And you should stop doing it.
chris delia
You should not engage.
joe rogan
You should.
No, you definitely.
chris delia
You should not engage.
That's the right thing to do.
joe rogan
The right thing to do is find the ones that are worthy and make them jokes.
And take things that people have said to you and turn them into bits against the person who said something to you.
That way you're not even addressing them personally.
You're just taking what they said and then bringing it to the stage.
chris delia
Well, that's what I did with the thing, right?
Right, right.
joe rogan
That's the way to do it.
chris delia
It is the way to do it.
joe rogan
The problem is if you get anytime publicly, you get into any sort of an altercation.
Like, this is one of the things that I learned about the Carlos Mencia situation when the thing with Carlos went down, which if I had to do it again.
chris delia
I wanted to ask you that, yeah.
joe rogan
I would do it again.
In that case, with that guy.
That guy's a bad guy.
What he did was bad.
And what he did, what people saw was a tenth of what he did.
Not even.
chris delia
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
What he did, he would go on stage in front of guys and do their best bits and then bring them up.
chris delia
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, on TV shows.
He did it.
Johnny Sanchez had a bit.
Funny fucking bit.
I don't know if he still does it.
Johnny Sanchez, funny guy.
He was always at the store.
chris delia
Johnny's funny.
joe rogan
He had a great bit about his Persian next-door neighbor.
People were always parking in a spot and the guy would freak out and he would freak out with broken English.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
And he's fucking parking in my fucking parking.
chris delia
Right, yes, yeah.
I know that bit.
unidentified
I know that bit.
chris delia
It's very fun.
joe rogan
It's a great bit.
chris delia
He's parking in my parking.
joe rogan
Mancia does it on stage on television before he brings Johnny Sanchez up.
chris delia
On a television gig?
joe rogan
He was hosting Loco Slam, one of those shows.
chris delia
And Johnny was going to do it?
joe rogan
Johnny was the next act.
chris delia
Going to do that bit?
joe rogan
Johnny was doing it.
chris delia
Well, it doesn't matter.
joe rogan
It's his closing bit.
It's his closing bit.
So Mancia does it before he brings him up.
Exactly.
And no one was doing anything about it.
None of the agents, none of the clubs.
No one was doing anything about it.
And when you would bring it up, they would say, this is just business.
Like, this is what Gersh said to me.
chris delia
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Gersh said to me, you know, when they asked me to apologize to Mancia, or they were going to drop me.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they dropped me.
Well, I told them I would never work with them again.
I said, Mike, I said, our conversation's over.
I said, look, you guys have already made this decision for me.
There's no way I could ever work with you knowing that what you guys do is you sell art.
That's what you sell.
You sell.
A comedian works.
We write.
We sit things.
We sit by ourselves.
We come up with ideas.
We write things down in the car.
We take these ideas.
We try to craft them.
We try to turn them into bits.
Like, we all do it.
And what they do is they come along and they sell that art.
They say, hey, Chris DeLia's got a new hour that he put together.
And he's going to go on the road and he's going to give us 10%.
So they're selling your art.
And this guy was a vampire.
He was stealing from the artists.
And they were selling the vampire's work.
They were selling what he had done.
But all you had done is take from these other artists and piece it together.
But it was all thievery.
It was all theft.
And they were talking that they were, and when they were saying that he was a bigger star than me at the time, and Steely was, especially when it came to movies and television shows, because he had Mindamancia.
And it was after I was done doing Fear Factor.
And they didn't have me for film.
I was with another agency for that.
They only had me for stand-up.
And so we had this situation when they were saying that I had to apologize to them.
And in their eyes, it was just business.
And so I would have done it again just because it needed to be done.
Like, there was a real problem.
There wasn't just like, there was a few minor instances of plagiarism or there was parallel thinking or two guys did jokes about a similar subject and you think that one guy came up with the other guy's bit.
He was one of the worst plagiarists I've ever seen.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And a bully with it.
Like a mean guy.
Like the Sanchez thing.
unidentified
Well, that's crazy.
Yeah, that's weird.
joe rogan
He would bump guys when they were headlining, like they would be headlining for the first time, like Brad Williams or Brad Williams or was it I forget which guy it was, but his first gig headlining, Mencia shows up, does a guest spot in front of him for 45 minutes.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
On his first ever headlining gig, like the guy's finally there, and Mencia just goes up and steals his thunder for 45 minutes.
I think it was actually someone else.
I'm trying to figure out who it was, but it wasn't the only time he's done that.
Like he would, guys, their name would be on the marquee.
He would show up and bump them.
Like the bumping was a big thing.
We'd go on right before them.
That was his thing.
Sneak right in.
But my point is that the negative stuff that I got from that, like the people that, when two people see, or when two people are fighting, and then all the public gets to chime in their opinion, then you just open yourself up to this attack.
Even if you're right, and I was right.
Most people were on my side, but most people doesn't mean everybody.
If there's a million people that were on my side, there was 300,000 that were angry at me.
And the 300,000, it slowly eroded to zero.
It did over time.
He still gets hate.
I don't get anything from that.
Over time, it was proven that I was correct.
Everybody saw the Bill Cosby thing.
All these other comedians came out.
And then he did Mark Maron.
Did you ever hear those podcasts that he did?
chris delia
I think I did.
Yeah, a while ago.
Was that bad?
I don't remember it, though.
joe rogan
It's bone curling.
unidentified
Really?
chris delia
God, it was.
joe rogan
Blood curdling.
chris delia
I don't remember it at all.
joe rogan
It was ugly because you got to see how crazy he is.
Especially the first one, Maron was kind of like.
Oh, yeah, he did it twice.
But the second one was he came back on to address things that all these other comedians had said about him.
All these other comedians who talked about him stealing.
And then he sort of fell apart.
He fell apart in the second one.
And then he did that I Am Comic documentary and admitted on I Am Comic that he steals people's stuff and reworks it.
It's sort of like a rapper samples bits.
Really?
Yeah.
And he goes, yeah, you ever see that?
Pull that up.
chris delia
I thought I saw it.
joe rogan
Just pull up.
Mencia admits to stealing an I Am comic.
It's really...
Like, he's been open about the fact that he had to go to therapy because of all this.
And he's just a beaten man.
I mean, you look at his...
And he's had 40,000 Twitter followers for years.
I mean, that is who that guy is now.
Like, here it is.
Like, he's getting interviewed.
unidentified
People out there are going to ask, why did they interview Carlos about this?
You know, Carlos is a joke thief.
Carlos steals jokes, and we know this.
Listen to me.
And look at me when I tell you this, with all honesty.
If you think that I steal jokes.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, you're right.
Of course I fucking steal jokes.
Are you out of your fucking mind?
When I come to a comedy club, you better run, bitch.
You better get the fuck off stage.
unidentified
Because if anything you say is even remotely funny, I'm going to make it mine.
joe rogan
And all I'm going to do is say Mexican in the front.
unidentified
I'm like a rapper.
joe rogan
I just sample shit and make it my own.
unidentified
Was that really my song?
I don't know.
But it sounds like mine.
But it kind of sounds like somebody else's.
It's a hit, bitch.
Sample, sample.
joe rogan
Wow.
Isn't that crazy?
chris delia
But was he joking there?
Like, what is that?
He was serious?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's serious.
That's exactly what he does.
I mean, even if he says he's joking, that's exactly what he does.
chris delia
Right, right.
joe rogan
That's his thing.
That's what he does.
chris delia
That's weird.
That's weird.
joe rogan
I think he did that just because he was just cracking.
He was just cracking.
Years and years and years and years and years and years and years of people fucking yelling at him and everywhere he goes, he fucking thief.
And then they found out that he wasn't really Mexican, so the Mexicans got mad at him.
Yeah.
chris delia
That's weird, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not good.
But the initial point was that in that situation, something had to be done.
But for the most part, engaging with someone is not worth it.
Especially publicly, unless you have something really important to prove.
When you do it publicly, man, you just open yourself up to so much, so many idiots' opinions, so much negativity.
It's just not worth it.
chris delia
It's hard when you're doing interviews, though, and then somebody asks you a certain question.
You're like, oh, here we go.
And then you get in trouble.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
And then they take it out of context and you're like, that's not what I fucking even said.
You know what I mean?
But also in this time we live in now, it's all soundbite shit.
And when you're asking somebody a question about like I did an interview for HuffPost and it was like they asked me about something and then they took a bite of that and they put it onto the headline and it's like, now fucking everyone, you know what I mean?
Everyone's like what the fuck did you say here?
What did you say there?
You know what it's like?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
chris delia
It's like, that's not fair.
joe rogan
No, that's weird when they do that.
And that goes back to, you know, me saying, it's like, look, I think I'm a good guy.
And you fucking, they took that and spun it.
chris delia
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, when people take things out of context, context is everything.
unidentified
It's everything.
joe rogan
It really is.
And the ability to take things in quotes, like I've had people take quotes that I said like on a Twitter, like just a Twitter joke and write a whole blog about it.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And, you know, come up with all these weird assumptions of how I feel about things and write this whole blog about it.
Like, why'd they do that?
Because it's a cheap shot because it's an easy thing to do.
Because it's an easy way to get their attention.
They can talk shit about Crystalia.
You know, they know Crystalia's a known character.
Oh, Crystalia's an asshole.
Look at Crystalia roll.
Oh, what a piece of shit.
And they'll do things about.
That's one of the reasons why Twitter is kind of funky in a way.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's also 140 characters is just not enough for any sort of nuanced opinion on these.
chris delia
Yeah.
No, that's totally true.
joe rogan
It's just you're not going to really get to the heart of what someone thinks about something.
You're just going to get some weird snippet that you have to kind of piece together.
Especially when it's a joke.
Like I'll say fucked up things on Twitter that I don't really mean just as a joke.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then people will decide that this is actually your opinion.
chris delia
That's true.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
They can't hear you.
unidentified
Like I don't, I don't like, you know, I don't, I'm not into sports, you know?
chris delia
And I'll, I, when the World Cup was on, I was just tweeting about how stupid sports were, but I was making jokes, you know, and it's like, if, look, if you're a kid and you're coming up and sports is your way out, that's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
I'm not, I don't think that kid's an asshole, you know?
But people were sending me death threats.
joe rogan
The World Cup is a weird thing.
chris delia
I know.
joe rogan
People get super attached to it.
chris delia
But they were like, oh, fucking sports don't matter.
joe rogan
I did this thing where I would make like quick videos of like where I was be at a bar and this World Cup would be going on and then some people would cheer and I would be like, yeah, it doesn't matter.
chris delia
It doesn't matter.
I would just be screaming, it doesn't matter.
And people were like, you fucking piece of shit.
Your stand-up doesn't matter if sports don't matter.
And I'm like, well, yeah, no shit, dude.
I'm just fucking around.
joe rogan
Guess what?
Stand-up doesn't matter.
I know, you know, unless you like stand-up.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And soccer doesn't matter if you don't like soccer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was working on a bit about the annoying white guy that pretends he likes soccer more than he really does.
chris delia
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Which is like really...
We were eating dinner at this place, and the World Cup was on in the background, and there was these annoying white guys that were screaming whenever the USA won or the USA scored a goal.
They were like jumping around and they're high-fiving each other.
It was just like, it was like there's nothing wrong with rooting for a team, but there's something artificial about the way they were doing it.
It was just too obvious.
chris delia
Right.
Well, because it's also, it's every four years.
They forget about it two years after that, and then it comes back again and they're like, oh yeah, fuck it.
You know, yeah.
Also, you're not, you probably weren't even watching the fucking USA game.
They were like, yeah, fucking Barswana.
It's like, you don't fucking care.
joe rogan
I'm rooting for Germany.
Germany's always been my team.
I have a VW.
I love Germany.
chris delia
It's like, I can't, I don't like anybody who gets too in the sauce.
unidentified
And just like, they're just like, oh, fuck yeah, man.
chris delia
And it's like, that's not your life, dude.
joe rogan
But I have a particular fascination about the World Cup because I find it very interesting that soccer gets, it doesn't move the needle at all outside of the World Cup.
Like, nobody gives a shit about soccer in America.
Remember when they tried to sell David Beckham?
They brought David Beckham to L.A. and they paid some fucking ungodly amount of money to have him.
chris delia
That's right.
No one gave a fuck.
joe rogan
No one gave a fuck.
chris delia
I forgot about that.
I forgot about that.
joe rogan
No one gave a fuck.
They spent so much money to bring David Beckham to LA to play soccer.
And the only people that watch soccer in LA are Mexicans.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
They love soccer.
You know, Mexico has a long history of soccer.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
As does England.
But not in America.
They brought this English guy over to America to play soccer.
And everybody's like, yeah.
Where's Pele?
chris delia
Yeah.
They didn't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Brazilians love soccer.
There's a lot of countries that love soccer.
United States is not one of them.
chris delia
Wow, they wanted soccer to be big and nobody gives a fuck.
joe rogan
So they try this really hot, tattooed up English guy.
Bring him over here.
Chicks went to soccer games.
I know girls that went to see a fucking soccer game because they were in love with David Becker.
chris delia
Right, but that didn't last because they don't care about soccer.
joe rogan
Plus, there was a bunch of drunk Mexicans.
They were hitting on them when they were there.
It was a fucking disaster.
Nobody gives a shit about soccer in America.
I don't know why.
I mean, it's more exciting than baseball.
I think soccer is more athletic.
chris delia
It has more excitement just because there's no downtime.
In baseball, it's mostly downtime.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's more exciting.
chris delia
Which is why I like baseball.
joe rogan
Because it's downtime.
chris delia
Because of the chilling.
Because he'll get it.
joe rogan
I used to love playing.
I used to go to see baseball games when I lived in Boston.
I used to go to Fenway Park.
chris delia
You don't really have to pay attention at a baseball game.
That's why it's so great.
unidentified
You can go get a hot dog and come back and be like, oh, that guy's still up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And if you happen to be there when a great moment happens, someone makes a great catch or a great knock, a great home run.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But still, if you tried inventing baseball today, people be like, wait, wait, what?
chris delia
Right, that's true.
joe rogan
They'll be like, this game is retarded.
Like, what's going on?
So you have nine innings, and what happens if it's a tie?
You just keep playing.
chris delia
Nine innings?
joe rogan
You keep playing?
chris delia
No.
You know what?
joe rogan
That's actually, to me, that's better than what soccer does, which is, hey, let's play a different game now.
chris delia
You just fucking under, you undersold your whole game by saying it's tied.
Let's do a different game.
You play Jenga.
Then play Jenga.
Play fucking Jenga.
You're just going to kick at the goal now?
Which is the exciting part, which is what should have just started.
That's how it should have started.
joe rogan
Right.
The whole sport should be just kicking at the goal.
unidentified
Hockey?
chris delia
We go to shootout?
Well, fuck hockey.
I can't watch that.
I can't watch it.
Here's what should happen.
Baseball, nine innings.
At the end of nine innings, if it's tied, the game's still over.
They go to hits, okay?
Whoever has more hits wins.
Same hits, then you go to fucking errors.
If the other team has more errors, they lose.
joe rogan
Dude, you should restructure baseball.
chris delia
In my mind, that's what it is.
joe rogan
That's a good idea.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is actually a good idea.
chris delia
Yes.
Why do you keep playing?
You said, how long is baseball last?
Nine innings.
Oh, wait, it's a tie.
Oh, well, let's go 10 here.
joe rogan
Here's a flaw with that problem, though.
Because what if, like, one team scored a run because they got four hits?
Like, they got a guy on first, then another guy got a single, he got on second, then another guy got on third, and then another guy came along and had a single, and then he brought in the third baseman comes in.
But if you watch, like, a home run, like, that would, like, discourage home runs because that's only one hit.
But it counts as one hit.
chris delia
Yeah, but if you get more runs, you win.
joe rogan
Right.
chris delia
But if there's more hits, then you don't win.
You only get it if you tie, and then the hits are more.
joe rogan
I wonder.
chris delia
We probably sound so dumb right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're dumb as fuck.
We're dumb already.
We're dumb already.
chris delia
Well, I'm definitely dumb.
joe rogan
I'm dumb at a lot of things.
chris delia
You know how I know I'm dumb?
You know how I know I'm dumb?
Because when I'm doing this podcast, time will go by, and I'm just listening to you, and I'm like, that's fucking interesting.
unidentified
And I haven't said shit.
chris delia
I legitimately am just listening to your podcast.
joe rogan
That's a part of podcasting, though.
That means you're good at it.
I know I'm dumb because I get offended when people tell me I'm smart.
chris delia
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Because people tell me I'm smart, and I go, oh, this is wrong.
This is incorrect.
I know what actual smart people sound like.
I know actual smart people.
I've talked to them.
I know the difference.
I just have memorized a bunch of shit.
I know some things.
That's where you, that's when, when I, when I listen to you or talk to you or whatever it is, whenever I hear you, I always think, how do you, just before you even knew me, I would be like, how do, how does Joe Rogan remember that much shit?
chris delia
I don't fucking remember anything.
joe rogan
I don't know how I remember so much.
chris delia
That's like, I don't even bother.
I'm at the point now where I'm.
unidentified
It's likely alphabet by on it.
But I'm at the point where I don't even look shit up because I'm not going to remember it.
chris delia
And that's sad as fuck.
joe rogan
If things are important to me, I remember them.
chris delia
Yeah.
But a lot of stuff's important to you.
The important stuff's important to you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
To me.
joe rogan
But non-important shit.
Like someone will tell me something and I don't give a fuck.
And then I'll go, what are you talking about?
And they go, I just told you.
I'll go, really?
I don't remember.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, so I have a very selective memory.
It's awesome if it's something that's actually interesting to me.
chris delia
Yeah, you retain shit and you're interested, which is good.
You have to learn to be interested a lot of the time, though.
Like people.
joe rogan
Do you have to learn to be interested?
Or is it?
It's usually that people have too many other things going on that are not interesting, so they don't have the time to get interested.
I think you have to learn to be interested because, like you said, context is everything, right?
So if you give me a book that's very interesting, I don't know how to read it if I don't fucking read books.
Right.
chris delia
And I don't know the context of it.
Like, I don't, take Shakespeare.
Is that important?
To somebody who doesn't read Shakespeare, you're like, I don't know.
This is stupid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If you wanted to just go back and kind of look at Shakespeare as like the origins of literature and the origins of storytelling, then it becomes interesting.
chris delia
It's important and it's interesting.
joe rogan
But it's not interesting.
Like, it's hard to take things.
Do you listen to old stand-up?
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you ever try to go back and listen to Lenny Bruce?
chris delia
I haven't in a long time.
joe rogan
I'm a big fan of stand-up.
And Lenny Bruce, I have posters on my wall at home, these Lenny Bruce posters from concert films and stuff.
And I'm a huge Lenny Bruce fan.
I have like maybe four or five Lenny Bruce pictures in my house because I think that Lenny Bruce is, I think he was the godfather of it all.
He was the reason why we could do what we did.
chris delia
Right, right.
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Like, for folks who don't realize, like, at one point in time, stand-up was just jokes.
It was like set up punchline, set up punchline.
And there was these guys that would tour.
They would do like the Cat Skills.
chris delia
And they would all do each other's acting.
joe rogan
Exactly.
They would all do the same jokes.
And they were just joke, like almost like street jokes.
And they would put together an act and that act would never change.
And then Lenny Bruce came along and Lenny Bruce started talking about things that he saw, the behavior people had, hypocrisy, religion, racism.
And everybody's like, what the fuck is this guy doing?
And people would come to see him and they would be blown away.
No one in the 50s and the 60s was talking like that.
No one was communicating the way Lenny Bruce was.
And he lit the fire that created George Carlin and Richard Pryor and all these different guys.
I think he was the original source of American stand-up comedy.
Oh, that's the Dustin Hawkins.
chris delia
That's the movie, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did you ever see it?
chris delia
No.
joe rogan
It's fucking great, man.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
My dad loves it.
Put it on for a second.
Whoa.
unidentified
I know there's one nigga.
joe rogan
There's a lot of endbobs getting dropped in this show.
unidentified
Let's see.
There's two niggers.
And between those two niggers sits a kike.
And there's another kite.
That's two kikes and three niggers.
And there's a spick.
Right?
joe rogan
He's doing this in an audience that people just are super uncomfortable.
unidentified
There's a Polark.
And there's a couple of grease balls.
And there's three lace curtain Irish mix.
And there's one hip thick punky, funky boogie.
Boogie boogie.
Jesus Christ.
I got three packs.
Do I hear five packs?
I got five packs.
Do I hear six picks?
I got six big.
Do I hear seven niggas?
I got seven niggas.
Sold American.
I passed with seven niggas.
Six fix, five nicks, four clacks, three guineas, and one whop.
You almost punched me out, didn't you?
Well, I was just trying to make a point, and that is that it's the suppression of the word that gives it the power, the violence, the viciousness.
Dick, if President Kennedy would just go on television and say, I'd like to introduce you to all the niggers in my cabinet, and if he just say, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger, every nigger he saw, boogie, boogie, boogie, boogie, boogie, nigger, nigger, nigger, niggered, nigger, till nigger didn't mean anything.
joe rogan
n-bombiest podcast ever.
unidentified
Why could somebody call him a nigger in school?
Thank you.
jamie vernon
That's it.
joe rogan
Fascinating.
chris delia
What a part to play.
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, he did a great job.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's like one of the, that's one of the best seemed like a standing ball.
unidentified
He did.
chris delia
He did.
I actually laughed because when guys play comedians, you're just like, oh, he's such.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's apparent to other people.
joe rogan
Tom Manks and Punchline.
chris delia
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah.
It's like you can just tell.
You can just tell it's not a comedian.
joe rogan
How about Sally Field and Punchline?
chris delia
I fucking barely remember that.
I would have to watch that again.
joe rogan
Oh, you don't.
You don't actually bad for you.
chris delia
But that was actually a really good representation of that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's a really good representation of Lenny Bruce.
That's why.
I mean, he played Lenny Bruce.
And that bit, boy, it's all about the context of the times because that bit, like, if you did that today, like, boy, you'd have to do a way better job of piecing it together.
It's just the times are different.
Like, back, that was, at the time, what he was doing was like completely groundbreaking.
No one had ever done anything.
chris delia
Well, yeah, you couldn't do that right now.
joe rogan
No, but it would be a different thing.
But if you went and watched him do Stand Up Today, like if Lenny Bruce was on stage doing Stand Up Today, you wouldn't be laughing.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
It's too late.
chris delia
Well, comedy, yeah, comedy changes.
And it's like you look at the shit back then, it's not funny anymore.
joe rogan
No, no.
chris delia
Even stuff from 20 years ago is not funny anymore.
joe rogan
Yeah, isn't that weird?
chris delia
It's very weird.
It's very weird.
Remember the boxer guy that would punch his face in the 80s?
joe rogan
Yeah, Bob Nelson.
chris delia
That was funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
You look at that now and you're like, what?
unidentified
And it's just what that's, that's fucking crazy, dude.
joe rogan
Bob Nelson is the reason why I have my manager.
chris delia
Really?
joe rogan
My manager was managing Bob Nelson when Bob Nelson found Jesus.
And Bob Nelson decided to get a prayer partner, was going to be his new manager.
And so my manager was like, oh, fuck.
So he had to go find some new talent.
And so he came to Boston.
And the night that he came to Boston, I had written a joke.
I'd only been doing it.
There he is right there.
chris delia
Shit is so weird, man.
joe rogan
Place up of it.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
joe rogan
Welcome to Jiffy Jeff's Gym.
unidentified
My.
joe rogan
My name is Jeff.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
My name is Jeff, and I'm the proprietor proprietor.
joe rogan
I own the gym.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Stop it.
unidentified
I mean, that's.
joe rogan
That's 1980.
chris delia
The opposite of funny, though.
unidentified
But it is.
Now it is.
joe rogan
Back then, he used to kill.
He was a killer.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird.
It was a different time, but he was always like a real schlapsticky.
chris delia
I don't know if he had a substitute.
joe rogan
I don't know if he had a substance abuse problem or what.
I don't know how he got involved with his prayer partner or how he found Jesus.
I don't know what was so extreme about it.
But he fired my manager.
And then my manager just randomly came to Boston.
He was in New York.
Just randomly came to Boston to look for talent.
And I just happened to be up on stage that night.
It wasn't even scheduled.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And I've been with him ever since.
unidentified
Well, thank God for that guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it.
But that's how that shit happened.
chris delia
If that guy never did that set, you wouldn't have this podcast.
joe rogan
I might not.
Look, my manager is a very important part of my career.
He's awesome.
He's the best.
And he's a great friend, and I love the guy.
And we've been together since I was an amateur.
chris delia
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
I've had the same manager for 22 years.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
At least, maybe 23.
It might be 23 years now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
unidentified
Crazy.
joe rogan
That's a great fucking thing, man, because that whole thing of like having the right representation, like the whole situation that I went through with Gersh, where they were trying to get me to apologize to Mancia.
chris delia
Yeah, you don't have to worry about that if you got a guy in your corner for fucking 12 years already.
joe rogan
But imagine if that was my guy.
Imagine if Gersh was my guy and they were telling me that it was the only people I had representing me and they were telling me I had to apologize to a criminal.
That's the sneaky part about this business, right?
It's like dealing with all the people that sell it.
chris delia
I know.
Yeah, that's the business part of it.
joe rogan
The club owners.
Yeah, but it's like, who else is going to represent?
chris delia
We're not going to do it.
We're not going to build a club.
We're fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Imagine if the Crystalia talent agency got started.
chris delia
It'd be like, oh, we'd fucking rep that guy.
We'd rep.
joe rogan
That's a goof.
chris delia
It'd be like me and him in that fucking thing.
He would open for me.
joe rogan
That's a thing that happens too, right?
Guys bring terrible acts to open for them.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
We were talking about that.
chris delia
We were talking about that.
I don't get that.
I don't get it.
Like, I bring funny guys.
joe rogan
Brent Morin, who was the other guy on my show, and Jason Collings.
chris delia
And those guys are so good.
joe rogan
And I don't get the idea of, yeah, I get a guy, he's okay, and then I'll go up and crush.
Yeah.
Well, we were talking about it because we were at the improv, and Chris is a very funny act, and some guys don't want to go after Chris.
And some guys specifically get upset if they wind up having to go after you.
And we were talking about this one guy who kind of tweaks about it and how ridiculous it is.
as if you being funny takes away from him being funny.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
To me, it's about going up and people being different, and it's fun, and you go up and crush, and then I have to go on after you.
chris delia
I don't want to fucking follow you, but I do.
You know what I mean?
It's like, oh, then it'll be fucking, yeah, oh, good, I get to go after Joe.
It's going to be hard, but it'll be fun.
I'm different.
joe rogan
But you've done it.
You do it.
chris delia
I do fine.
joe rogan
I did it, yeah, the other week, but I don't, I never would be like, no.
chris delia
No way.
Dude, no way.
That's bitch made shit to me.
joe rogan
Bitch made.
chris delia
Yeah.
To me, what are you saying?
You're saying you can't go up.
Who cares?
Who even, how about this?
You bomb.
Who gives a fuck?
joe rogan
But bombing is just the whole thing that you've been working for is to build up your confidence so that you can get to this point where you finally feel like you're worthy of staying alive.
And then one bad set after Chris DeLia.
But that's the test the universe gives you.
We were talking about Scott Shore, who's Mitzi Shore's, I guess, oldest son.
He's a buddy of mine.
And I ran into him in La Jolla this part this part of the week in San Diego.
This weekend.
And we were talking about what Mitzi used to do to comics, like how she develops comedians.
And what she used to do is anybody who's any good, she would put you on after the biggest killers she could find.
Like all throughout my days at the comic store, I had to follow Martin Lawrence back when You So Crazy when He was doing that?
chris delia
God damn, dude.
joe rogan
I was an unknown white guy.
The audience was mostly black, and he was going on stage with a leather jumpsuit on.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was destroying.
Like people have forgotten how goddamn funny Martin Lawrence was.
chris delia
He's so funny.
joe rogan
I will never forget.
Because he went crazy, and he wore like that rubber suit.
Yeah.
And he was running around.
chris delia
I actually think he's still funny when you see him in movies.
He's very funny.
joe rogan
He's very funny.
I haven't seen him do stand-up lately, but...
I'm not sure.
chris delia
He came by the comedy store maybe two years ago and started doing some stuff, but I never really watched.
joe rogan
Well, I know he took a long time off, and then he came on stage, and he was talking about how they got him on pills.
chris delia
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
Pretty relatable.
joe rogan
He got me on pills.
Yeah.
And yeah, it was tough action.
And the audience was like, ooh.
chris delia
Is this a TED Talk?
joe rogan
But when I saw him...
We were talking about people going crazy when they get so famous.
Martin Lawrence was goddamn gigantic.
He had that show enormous.
He's doing movies, Big Mama's House and all these other different That's him, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or was it Eddie Murphy?
unidentified
Was that Eddie Murphy?
joe rogan
It was another big black woman.
chris delia
Big Mama's House.
joe rogan
They all played Big Black Women at one point in time in their life.
But he did all those movies and he was just a giant superstar.
unidentified
But what people forget is his stand-up.
joe rogan
He was a murderer.
He destroyed.
And I went on after him.
I don't know how many times.
I don't know how many times.
Anytime he was performing at the store, I was going on after him right away.
Wow.
Every time.
And I was nobody.
I was nobody.
And I wasn't that good.
I was okay.
chris delia
So you would get him sometimes and sometimes not?
joe rogan
I would eat shit.
I would eat shit and then eventually get to like a respectable few laughs before I bailed.
But the beginning was all just watching giant groups of black people get up and leave.
They were leaving anyway.
Tonight, y'all.
chris delia
Of course.
joe rogan
Who next?
And then he had to bring me up too.
He was very gracious.
He gave me a great introduction.
chris delia
And how long would he do?
joe rogan
Oh, at least half an hour, at least.
chris delia
Maybe more, 40 minutes.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
I mean, when I was in the comedy store, I would have to, they would make me go after Caparullo, who crushed.
chris delia
But yeah, that's nothing like Martin Lawrence in the fucking.
joe rogan
Yeah, Caparillo's a good comic, but Martin Lawrence was a superstar.
He was so famous in the 90s.
chris delia
Yeah, he was.
Yeah.
But you know what?
When I was going to the comedy store, there weren't people on TV that were at the comedy store.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
That was the dark ages.
chris delia
2008.
There was no, literally nobody.
It was.
And these guys are funny.
I'm not saying they're not funny, but they just weren't on TV.
Caprulo, Brett Ernst, Sebastian.
Sebastian, this was before he, you know what I mean?
Right.
unidentified
And then and Dove.
Yeah.
chris delia
You weren't there.
This was after you.
joe rogan
It was after I left.
I left in 2007.
That's when the Mencia thing happened.
chris delia
Right.
joe rogan
And then I went in 2008, and then I would be going on after these guys that would crush.
Yeah, so I know what you're talking about a little bit, not like the Martin Lawrence thing.
I followed Richard Pryor five weeks in a row.
chris delia
You did?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Five weeks in a row, Richard Pryor did stand up.
I'll never forget.
It was the weirdest thing because he was already on his way out.
chris delia
He was dying.
joe rogan
And they would carry him to the stage.
Wow.
And the audience would clap like fucking Moses had risen from the grave.
And it was just fascinating just to be in the room with him, man.
Just to be in the room with him.
chris delia
I would love.
joe rogan
The greatest comic of all time, in my opinion.
And he would go on stage.
I think I should qualify that.
I think Sam Kinnison in 1986 was the greatest comic of all time.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
But he was only the greatest comic for a year.
I think he was a murderer.
Louder than hell when he did that.
He couldn't be stopped.
He was just unstoppable.
He was the greatest ever.
But it was a show.
When he did the thing about homosexual necrophiliacs, did you ever see that?
chris delia
Yes, I did.
What's the bit again?
joe rogan
And he goes, folks, he goes, there's these guys, homosexual necrophiliacs.
They were paying, paying morgues to spend a few hours undisturbed with their freshest male corpse.
And he goes, could you imagine?
You're lying out there on that slab saying, well, I'm dead now.
I guess I'm going to go with Jesus.
Hey.
And he's like rocking back and forth.
He's lying on his stomach on stage.
unidentified
He's like, hey, hey, what the fuck is this?
joe rogan
It feels like there's a dick in my ass.
unidentified
You mean life keeps rocking the enemy back to the deck?
joe rogan
It never ends.
It never ends.
unidentified
Oh, oh.
joe rogan
Like, you had to see it.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
At the time, there'd been nobody like him.
Nobody even remote.
He was so original.
Like, there was no one like Kinnison before he came along.
Everybody else was doing jokes.
He was screaming.
unidentified
I live in hell.
He goes, look at me, look at me, look at me.
Oh, oh, I was married twice.
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did this joke about going to hell and about Satan wouldn't even bother trying to scare you.
And he goes, oh, you've been married?
This is an old hat for you.
Come on in.
chris delia
Oh, that's funny.
joe rogan
You had to see him at the time.
Well, that's you know, Kinnison is an interesting thing because when I think about Kinnison, I would have loved to have seen what the fuck would have happened to him as a comic.
He would have gotten worse.
Well, it was all about it.
It would have been ugly.
I mean, I'm just guessing, but his act was so bad at the end.
chris delia
Oh, really?
joe rogan
He's the best example that I give to young comics when they want to talk about the perils of fame and what can happen to you when you stop writing, when you stop working on your sets, you're no longer trying to hone it as an art form.
He was just being Kinnison.
He was doing blow and break and being this superstar.
If you listen to Louder Than Hell, you go watch his first HBO special, watch that stuff, the good stuff, and then watch the subsequent specials.
They were slowly but surely terrible.
Like, not as good.
The first one after was not nearly as good, and then it got really bad.
And then at the end, it was awful.
He just fell on apart.
And I got to see him live after he had fallen apart.
I saw him at Great Woods in Mansfield, Massachusetts, and Carl LeBeau opened for him.
Carl, who's a funny guy?
He wasn't as funny as Carl.
He just, he had already used up all his best material, all the hunger from being an up-and-coming comic.
Years and years of struggle, he developed all these killer bits.
And then within a year, he had to rewrite the whole thing.
He had to come up with all this new material.
And it was just gimmicky stuff.
Like he would have some guy on stage, and the guy would tell him about a heartbreak that he had, and then he would bring up a phone, and he would call the girl from the stage and scream at her.
Like that was his gimmick.
You fucking cunt.
I'm here with Tom.
unidentified
Tell her, tell her.
joe rogan
And he'd go, fucking cunt.
unidentified
You fucking, I hope you rot in hell.
joe rogan
I hope you slide under a gas truck and taste your own blood.
unidentified
Die!
Die!
Thank you, good night.
joe rogan
And that's how he would get off stage.
It was, this wasn't that good.
It was over.
Like, it was over.
Like, the wind that carried his sails was over.
But during that 1986 year, Maron has the best fucking stories about Kinnison because Maron used to work at the comedy store when Kinnison was coming up.
And he did Coke with them.
unidentified
Fuck, really?
joe rogan
He did Coke for like 72 hours and stayed up for days.
And it broke Maron's brain to the point where Maron said that he was hearing voices for almost a year.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
Anybody who's listening to this, if you want to hear more of it, Mark Maron's episode of this podcast, when Mark Maron was on this podcast, I'm sure it's easy to find.
He told some fucking awesome stories about Kinnison.
They were amazing.
Like I just like my jaw was hanging open.
My eyes were glued open.
Fantastic.
But he was there at the darkest moments of The Beast, like when Kinnison was just in time anywhere, it would be just the 80s and I'd go to the comedy store.
unidentified
Yeah, me too.
chris delia
Like, fuck Caveman.
unidentified
I don't care.
chris delia
I don't even give a shit.
I don't even care.
Napoleon, cool.
unidentified
I would go see the 1986 comedy store.
joe rogan
I'm with you.
100%.
Yeah.
I would love to see Pryor when like the Live of the Sunsets trip time.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Like during those days.
chris delia
I mean, just people clamoring to get in on a Monday night.
I would love to see that.
joe rogan
Fuck.
chris delia
I want to see that guy, the fucking.
unidentified
I want to see that guy.
joe rogan
Jeff, what?
unidentified
Huh?
chris delia
I want to see that.
joe rogan
Yeah, no kidding, man.
Yeah, but that's because you're a real comic.
You know, you really love it.
You know, one of the things I saw one of your tweets the other day.
I really loved it.
Only I would love it.
But only comics would love it.
Like, all I want to do is be on stage.
I don't want to go to your party.
I don't want to go to the beach.
But people don't get it.
Like, the rush and the fun that you have when you're crushing, when you're crushing.
Like, I love watching comedy still.
And this is something that I've really cultivated.
chris delia
Yeah, you do.
Yeah.
I notice you.
Yeah, that's cool about you.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I love it.
I love laughing.
Like, when we were watching Callan the other day.
chris delia
I know, it's great.
joe rogan
I love laughing, man.
And I love the art form.
Callan was doing.
I don't want to give his bit away, but he was doing this bit.
And I was howling in the back of the room because it was like, he added a bunch of new lines to it.
I haven't seen it before.
I love it.
I still love it.
Some people don't, man.
That's something, if I could give advice to young comics, don't lose the love as a fan because sometimes comics, they become comics, and then it's all about them.
It's all about getting better, and it's all about them killing and not about other people.
And then it becomes all about like, you know, like you sort of dissect.
Like, I talked to Norton once.
He was telling me he doesn't watch other comedy because he worries that he's going to be influenced.
And I was like, God, I might have to quit comedy.
chris delia
Really?
joe rogan
If that was the case.
chris delia
There is something to be said for that, though.
I mean, at least he's got a reason and a freaking.
joe rogan
Oh, it's an ethical reason.
But I don't think you can avoid being influenced.
You're going to be, I think I'm influenced by other comics for sure.
I think I'm also influenced by pop culture.
I'm influenced by art and music and movies that I see and books that I read.
I think life is the entire culture, the entire civilization of human beings is a series of influences.
People influencing people, people enhancing people.
There's the whole reason to have good friends is good friends enhance you.
If you're around people that are constantly pushing and they're constantly getting shit done, it makes you get shit done.
When I was a kid, when I was in high school, I had two of my best friends, Jimmy Detilio and Jimmy Lawless.
chris delia
Those guys sound great.
Guys, friends.
joe rogan
They're the great guys.
They sound like they're two great guys.
But one of the things that was great about those guys is that they worked hard.
When I was in high school, these guys had, like, Jimmy has an electrical company and he's an electrician.
And the other Jimmy is a carpenter.
And while I was in high school, these guys were constantly working.
They would get up early.
They would do things.
Jimmy Detillio had a fucking snowplow operation.
He had a truck that he had bought.
We were in high school.
He had a fucking plow and a truck, a pickup truck.
He'd been making money.
He was hustling.
He was always getting shit done.
And so I would feel lazy if I didn't hustle like these guys did.
And I developed a lot of my work ethic from being friends with these guys because they were hustlers because they were constantly getting shit done.
And if you're around guys that constantly get shit done, it becomes sort of contagious.
And I think comics, they tend to be, a lot of us tend to be very insolent.
Not well, the best way to look at it is you concentrate too much on yourself to the point where you avoid other things being good that don't have anything to do with you.
Especially like struggling comics.
That's one of the reasons why they don't enjoy watching other stand-up.
You wish you came up with those jokes.
You wish it was you that was up there.
You see, like I went to this place, Cap City, once, and Jim Norton was on stage.
And I was watching, and beside me were the two guys that were on before Jim Norton.
And they didn't laugh at all.
They were just sitting there while he was on stage murdering me.
And I was crying laughing.
And I remember looking over and saying, these guys aren't enjoying this comedy.
And there was like a tinge of, I wish it was me up there.
There was a tinge that these guys were exhibiting of, I wish it was me.
I wish.
And I was like, you poor bastards.
Like, you're missing out on why did you become a comic in the first place?
chris delia
That's interesting, yeah.
joe rogan
Became a comic in the first place because you love comedy, right?
Like, I love stand-up comedy long before I ever thought I was coming.
chris delia
I always thought it was the coolest thing to go on stage with no nothing and just say shit and people are entertained.
joe rogan
Yeah, and the coolest thing to watch, too.
Like, I went to see a bunch of live stand-up before I ever got paid to do it.
Like, I saw Kinnison long before I ever did stand-up.
I saw Kinnison in 86 in Mansfield, Massachusetts at the Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts.
And I saw him again at this place down the Cape.
And it was all long before.
I saw Rodney Dangerfield long before I ever thought about doing stand-up.
And these guys like that don't appreciate it as just a thing to enjoy because they do it themselves.
Like, God, you're missing out on a lot, man.
Just laugh.
chris delia
It's easy to get caught up in, though.
So it is interesting.
I mean, to say that is important, I think, because it's easy to get caught up in your own head.
Your own head, yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Your own head, your own career, your own selfishness.
Think about it only, you know, in terms of like your success.
Like, how many comics do you know where other guys will get shit and then they'll get jealous?
You were talking about that's happened to you.
Like, you, when you started taking off, like, you started out.
chris delia
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And then start taking off.
chris delia
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
joe rogan
They get angry.
chris delia
They get angry, yeah.
It's very weird, man, because...
unidentified
There'll be no gold left for us, Crystalia.
chris delia
Which is exactly wrong.
Yeah.
Because if let's all go do this.
joe rogan
Yes.
And you can.
That's the thing.
You can absolutely, especially in comedy, you get your crew.
Well, not only that, how about the fact that there's 350 million people in the country, and there's how many fucking clubs?
It's not like there's one club in New York.
We all have to go there and get on stage, and there's no goddamn stage time.
No, New York itself has 100 clubs at least.
Just New York.
LA has, how many fucking clubs are in LA?
Jesus Christ.
There's the main ones, there's the improv, the laugh factory, the comedy store, and then you've got the ha ha.
Then you've got fucking the ice house in Pasadena.
chris delia
You've got all the.
Brea and Irvine.
You can go there.
joe rogan
Brea, Irvine, Ontario, on and on and on.
The Comedy and Magic Club in Hermosa.
I mean, Jesus fucking Christ, there's a lot of places to perform here.
And then across the country, like everywhere you go, there's a comedy club.
Everywhere you go, there's a place to perform.
If you develop an act and you have a following, you develop a following, you're going to work.
You're going to have a great time.
There's plenty of prosperity.
chris delia
Just keep doing it.
Just keep doing it.
And also, yeah.
Just fucking don't do one club either.
unidentified
Don't just be in Cap City and just do that area.
joe rogan
No, that's not good either, right?
You know, one of the things I love about comedy is I still love comedy.
I fucking still love it, man.
You know, I'm getting ready to do the special.
I'm filming my special not this upcoming weekend, but the next upcoming weekend.
chris delia
Oh, really?
It was that soon, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so I'm hammering it, man.
I'm doing like four or five nights a week.
I'm having so much fun, though.
unidentified
It's cool to see to see that, you know, you still.
chris delia
When's the last time you did a special?
joe rogan
Two years ago.
chris delia
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
chris delia
And where are you taping this one?
joe rogan
This one's in Denver.
chris delia
Oh, right.
Comedy Works, yeah.
joe rogan
Comedy Works in Denver, which is one of my favorite clubs ever.
chris delia
How are you putting it out?
joe rogan
Comedy Central.
chris delia
Oh, okay, cool.
joe rogan
Where'd you do your last one for?
chris delia
I did Comedy Central, yeah.
joe rogan
Where'd you film it?
chris delia
In New Orleans.
unidentified
New Orleans.
chris delia
Yeah, it was fucking awesome.
It was awesome.
joe rogan
That's a good place to do comedy.
chris delia
It was awesome.
It was such a good place to do comedy because they don't have any comedy.
unidentified
They don't have a club.
chris delia
They don't have a club.
joe rogan
They have a scene, though.
They have like goddamn bars and stuff.
chris delia
I know.
But it was awesome.
I was unsure because it was my first in Comedy Central's, we want you to do it here.
And I was like, all right.
I'm so happy.
joe rogan
Did they piggyback you with a bunch of other specials they were filming where they have the same stage?
chris delia
We each had a night, yeah.
But yeah, it was like three nights.
It was me, Steve Ranizzizzi, and Neil Brennan.
joe rogan
Yeah, they like to do that.
They like to do that where they get a place.
Yeah.
I'm doing this one in a comedy club.
It's my first one in a comedy club.
I decided that I'm like, there's a thing about watching comedy in a literal.
chris delia
Yeah, you're right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
It's intimate, and you just get to do it in a comedy club.
chris delia
It's better.
That's what you're saying.
joe rogan
The show's better, too.
It's like there's a difference in the show that you see at a theater.
It's still great, but it's missing that crackling intimacy that a 300-seat, 250-seat comedy club is.
Like I just did American Comedy Company in San Diego.
Fucking perfect.
chris delia
I love that club.
joe rogan
It's perfect.
It's the perfect club.
It's perfect.
You can't get any better.
It's just the perfect size.
And before that, I did Wise Guys in Utah.
Same thing.
chris delia
Yeah, I don't know that one.
Oh, I know the name, but yeah.
joe rogan
You got to go there.
You fucking ripped that place apart.
It's amazing.
And the people are cool as fuck.
You think of like Salt Lake City as being all a bunch of weirdo religious freaks.
But it's not.
It's only like a percentage of the population.
And everybody else is like working really hard to not be like that guy.
unidentified
Well, yeah, if you have that, you definitely have the opposite of that in one town.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Where's the places you like to work?
chris delia
I do like the American Comedy Company.
I love Carolines.
joe rogan
Carolines and Broadway.
chris delia
I love Carolines on Broadway.
That's a great place.
I love Addison Improv.
joe rogan
That's a great place.
chris delia
I love that fucking room.
joe rogan
That's a wild room, man.
chris delia
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
Right outside of Dallas.
Ooh, that's a fun place.
chris delia
Yeah.
My favorite place is a comedy store, though, man.
joe rogan
That's a great spot.
chris delia
Favorite?
It's our original room.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's probably one of the best rooms ever.
chris delia
Yeah.
joe rogan
If not the best.
chris delia
That's like the only room that's built.
Every other club is built for the audience.
That is built for the comedian.
It's like the only room, really, that I can think of that's built for you.
joe rogan
I'm working my way to get back there.
I might go back there.
Joey started going back there again.
Joey's my fucking canary in a coal mine.
Joey's one of the main reasons why I decided not to go back in the first place.
He actually quit before the Mancia thing went down.
chris delia
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he didn't like a lot of the things about the way the store was going.
chris delia
Oh, yeah, it's different now.
I mean, we wish you would come back, dude.
That would be fucking awesome.
joe rogan
He didn't get along with Paul either.
chris delia
Oh, gotcha.
unidentified
Yeah.
chris delia
I'm there all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, maybe I will.
Maybe I will.
But listen, man, it's been fun doing gigs with you.
I've been enjoying doing the improv.
chris delia
Yeah, it's been really fun.
joe rogan
It's just been fun to have somebody not in the green room with.
Yeah.
chris delia
There's no green room there.
joe rogan
We were talking about the improv in Hollywood.
If we were on the road and we worked at that club, people were like, there's no fucking green room.
There's nowhere to stand.
Like in between shows, you just get weirded out.
All these strangers that glom onto you.
chris delia
Joe and I will use each other.
We'll be like, yeah, just here, hang out.
We'll fucking be next to each other and somebody will.
joe rogan
Let me show you something.
unidentified
We've shown each other nothing, by the way.
Oh, yeah.
chris delia
We pretend like we want to go see.
No, I want to see this guy's act here.
Let's go in.
Let's go into the showroom now.
joe rogan
Stay with us.
Let's go.
Nothing like it.
chris delia
Yeah, no, it's been fun, dude.
unidentified
It's been cool, like, rolling with you and just being near you and doing that shit.
joe rogan
It's been real fun.
Yeah.
And it's been fun doing a podcast.
We just did three hours.
It's over.
chris delia
Yeah, that kind of went quick.
joe rogan
It flew by.
chris delia
We hope it flew by for you, too.
joe rogan
Ladies and gentlemen, if it didn't fly by for you, we apologize.
But that's on you.
chris delia
But we don't really say sorry, remember?
joe rogan
We don't really give a fuck.
All right, that's it.
That's the end.
Thanks, everybody.
Thanks for listening.
We'll be back on Wednesday.
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