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July 17, 2014 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - July 16, 2014
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brendan schaub
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bryan callen
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joe rogan
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joey diaz
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joe rogan
It's tremendous.
He has a Hector Lombard sprawl.
You know how Hector Lombard slams a motherfucker down when he sprawls on you?
Hector Lombard has the scariest sprawl I've ever seen.
When he snapped down Tim Bosch, it was like, BITCH! It wasn't just a sprawl.
bryan callen
You know who else had a crazy sprawl, actually?
joe rogan
He did, but he was ready to crack as soon as he got up.
Fedor was more wild in the transitions with wild punches and judo throws and shit.
Fedor was always wild in the transitions.
But I'm telling you, Tim Bosch and Anthony Rumble Johnson are two of the scariest fucking sprawls I've ever seen.
unidentified
Just...
joe rogan
Stop the presses!
None of this is going on.
bryan callen
Who is he fighting next?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Nogueira.
Damn, that's a good fight.
bryan callen
I want to see him fight Glover.
joe rogan
Oh no, no, no, no, no.
Let me tell you something.
Little Nog is a very good boxer.
Yeah.
In fact, he fought for the Brazilian national team.
He medaled.
Wow.
He's a bad motherfucker with his striking.
That shut Rashad Evans down.
Like, if you watch that Rashad Evans fight, it wasn't the best fight for Rashad.
He was a little off in that fight.
But one of the reasons why he was a little off is because, you know, Garrett tagged him a couple times in that first round with clean shots.
He's a clean boxer.
It's a real crisp technique.
Nothing flashy, but he knows what the fuck he's doing, and he'll light you up.
You zig when you should have zagged, he'll crack you.
brendan schaub
Him and his brother.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Shit happens.
bryan callen
Awkward pause.
joe rogan
Someone's got a little personal experience to share.
bryan callen
Someone ought to sit this kid down.
joe rogan
He's better than his brother.
He's better than his brother as a boxer.
And he also submitted Dan Henderson.
They both submitted him.
Both brothers.
Isn't that crazy?
Little Nog and Big Nog.
Both got him on an armbar.
bryan callen
So he's better.
You think Little Nog is actually better than his brother?
joe rogan
No, I think he's got better boxing, but his brother was definitely more successful as an MMA fighter.
But it's only slightly better.
When you talk about better, if Little Nog and his brother boxed, either one of them could knock each other out.
It doesn't always play out that way.
Brendan and I were talking about this before the podcast, about no one catches a lucky rear naked choke.
Never.
If two black belts are going at it, the guy who taps the guy is the better guy.
bryan callen
Right.
joe rogan
But if two guys are slugging out in the gym, you fucking shit can happen, man.
It's a toss-up.
I've seen guys who are really good get lit up by a guy who's not that good in the gym and just get cracked with a shot.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
You run into it, a hard jab, something, it takes your legs out.
brendan schaub
But there are lucky shots.
And jiu-jitsu, why I love jiu-jitsu is...
I wasn't like, oh, damn, I accidentally caught him in an ankle lock.
You know what I'm saying?
There's none of that.
joe rogan
Ever.
brendan schaub
Ever.
joe rogan
You accidentally got a rolling heel hook.
unidentified
You actually got to know what you're doing.
brendan schaub
You're not going to get lucky, you know?
unidentified
Any fat dude can throw a big right hand and hit you in the right spot.
bryan callen
What is the one jiu-jitsu move that has had the highest rate of success?
joe rogan
Let's let everybody know, round one of the John Lineker fight is right about to take place.
If you're listening to this podcast, you never heard this.
There's no philosophizing.
What we're doing is we're watching fights, and as the fights are taking place, we're talking shit.
Joey motherfucking Diaz is here.
Holla at your boy.
bryan callen
Joe Diaz.
joey diaz
What's happening?
joe rogan
Brendan Chubb and Brian Callen.
The fight started.
It says 4.43 right there when I said that.
That's what it says as far as the time if you want to sync up because there's a bit of a difference between the fights and the live broadcast that we're doing.
There's like a 15-second delay, something like that.
bryan callen
Look for me to make a lot of comments in this fight companion, guys.
joe rogan
John Lineker, that dude with the red shorts, he's a fucking beast.
He's one of the hardest hitting flyweights in the world.
The guy cracks, but can't make the weight.
Keeps fucking up and missing his weight.
bryan callen
Did he miss weight this time?
joe rogan
Missed his weight cut twice.
He would have already had a shot at the title.
Look at how he hits.
This motherfucker with a heart shot.
He left hooks him to the upper rib cage and takes away his heart.
Those are ruthless.
Lineker can fucking...
I'm telling you, I've seen a lot of dudes that are in this weight class crack.
He's totally different than all of them.
If every 125 was like Lineker, this would be a hugely exciting division.
This motherfucker puts guys to sleep.
He hits hard.
He's got like weird power.
Like when he hits you, you see dudes go like, whoa, nobody ever hit me like that before.
brendan schaub
My bad at 135. 125. 125, my bad.
joe rogan
He's a flyweight, man.
So he was supposed to be fighting DJ. Well, that's why he has a hard time making 125, obviously.
Look at this.
Oh, shit.
Nice takedown.
Good strength.
brendan schaub
Whitaker's from AT&T, right?
joe rogan
Brazil.
Yeah, AT&T. Pretty sure, right?
Yeah, he's got AT&T shorts on.
brendan schaub
Oh, I thought he was about to set up a...
joe rogan
He's doing a good job getting over that leg, that left leg.
Oh, look, he's out.
He's out.
He's out.
Oh, he let that dude get on top of him.
You know what?
That's what sucks about the cage, right?
You can't skip your hips back.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's no shrimping against the cage.
joe rogan
You're just stuck right there.
brendan schaub
I think the cage benefits wrestlers a lot more with their heavy hips, their ground and pound.
It's definitely an advantage for a wrestler.
bryan callen
Is there a jiu-jitsu move that has had the highest percentage of success in the UFC? Rear naked choke.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably a choke.
Maybe a guillotine.
You think a guillotine?
brendan schaub
I think the most would be a rear naked.
joe rogan
Well, let's see.
brendan schaub
And then guillotine.
joe rogan
I'm sure there's a stat somewhere, right?
Okay, what?
brendan schaub
Oh, and then Anaconda.
Wait, hold up.
There's only been one in the heavyweight division.
Oh, my bad.
bryan callen
Brendan.
brendan schaub
Come on, stop.
bryan callen
You silly goose.
unidentified
Come on, stop.
bryan callen
You silly goose.
joe rogan
Well, other guys have hit anacondas, haven't they?
Not in the UFC. Didn't, um...
brendan schaub
Not in the heavyweight division.
joe rogan
Did, um...
Did Dave...
Phil Davis, did he get a darse?
On Gustafson?
brendan schaub
No, that was an anaconda.
That's light heavyweight, though, isn't it?
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
You said heavyweight.
Sorry.
I thought you said in the UFC. Ooh.
bryan callen
Ooh.
joe rogan
But he did get a...
brendan schaub
Yeah, no, there's been...
Oh, there's been a bunch of anacondas.
I spent in the heavyweight division.
joe rogan
It's the dopest name.
Right?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Anaconda choke?
What's a doper name than an anaconda killing somebody?
Everybody wants to be an anaconda when you're doing jiu-jitsu.
bryan callen
Anaconda.
joe rogan
This is the...
This is the fucking...
brendan schaub
Ooh, cut.
bryan callen
Whoa.
joe rogan
This is the kangaroo choke.
What?
unidentified
Ew.
joe rogan
Get that away from me.
But I want an anaconda, motherfuckers.
Catch a dude with an anaconda.
bryan callen
I actually don't remember the last time I saw, besides, not with a kick, but with a punch, somebody takes somebody out with a liver shot.
joe rogan
Oh, it happens all the time.
bryan callen
With hands?
With hands?
joe rogan
Well, it happens with all kinds of things.
bryan callen
With kicks, yes, but not...
I don't know about hands.
I see a lot in boxing, but not...
joe rogan
It definitely happens.
brendan schaub
That's when you know a guy's a high-level striker if he's going to the body.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Especially in a high-level fight.
If it's a high-pressure fight and he's going to the body, he's a really good striker.
bryan callen
Hard to set up, right?
joe rogan
You've seen Fabio Maldonado fight, right?
You know, he's not at the level of the top guys, and he got chewed up by Miocic.
He just should not be...
We called that one.
bryan callen
Right.
joe rogan
Just should not have been fighting heavyweight.
bryan callen
He's just smaller.
joe rogan
And Miocic is a beast.
brendan schaub
They shouldn't even sanction that fight.
joe rogan
I agree with you 100%.
It was a Brazilian sanctioning fight.
I don't think they probably would have accepted it in Vegas.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Miocic just had way too much for him.
Too much power, too much technique.
Stipe looked fucking fantastic, though.
He looked really crisp in that fight.
Looked really good.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he looked great.
I'll fucking drive down Chipotle and I'll come fools out if you want to hype it up.
joe rogan
How dare you?
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, man.
It's a mismatch.
joe rogan
Yes.
Big time.
And not only that.
bryan callen
He was a lot bigger, too, it looked like.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was way bigger.
Well, Maldonado was supposed to be on another fight.
brendan schaub
Maldonado should probably be fighting at 70, let's be honest.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
No, you didn't.
brendan schaub
No, for real.
unidentified
He could make 70. He's got some extra weight.
joe rogan
He definitely has a few pounds.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's all I'm saying.
He's a beast of a fighter.
Some of the best boxing, if not the best boxing at whatever weight class he's in right now.
joe rogan
He's like one of the best at just eating shots and still coming forward.
unidentified
Him, Glover, that was tough to watch.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
But what about when he clipped Glover with that left hand?
unidentified
I was like, oh shit, what's going on here?
joe rogan
That was pretty crazy.
brendan schaub
I always wanted to see Glover versus DC. That would have been a great fight.
joe rogan
Very interesting fight.
DC against anybody is very interesting.
Rear naked choke is number one.
brendan schaub
That's what I thought.
joe rogan
Yeah, rear naked choke is numero uno.
Number two, I'm going to say guillotine.
brendan schaub
For sure guillotine.
joe rogan
You think so?
Maybe armbar, right?
brendan schaub
Nope, guillotine.
joe rogan
Guillotine.
Let's see.
Yeah, because with wrestlers, a lot of times people shoot in.
Yep, guillotine, number two.
Number two is guillotine.
brendan schaub
But you can kind of crank on someone's neck and choke them out, even if you're not, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, if you don't know what you're doing.
Yeah, like try pulling off a darse if you don't know what you're doing.
Try pulling off a Peruvian necktie if you don't know what you're doing.
brendan schaub
Yeah, good luck with that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're right.
If you get someone's head in there, you kind of headlock them to death.
unidentified
Certain angle.
brendan schaub
For example, Chael Sonnen.
Chael's not known for his jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Chael Sonnen versus Shogun when he got him that guillotine.
And he was arching back and straight on.
joe rogan
But a lot of guys are arching back now.
A lot of guys are arching back if they have a different angle.
You know, it used to be with that arm-in guillotine that everybody would always say that you have to smother it.
But Eddie Bravo now says that there's also a way to do it if you're sideways where you're arching back.
You can arch back sideways.
He's like, from certain angles, it's okay to arch back.
It's like, that's the complexity of jujitsu.
Just little tiny adjustments.
Like, we were talking before the podcast about Amal Easton taught me a variation on the guillotine that was really good for the defense, which is to go over the top or the back.
But also, there's just little variation in the way you hold it made the bone of the arm dig into the neck.
And just that one little thing was like...
bryan callen
Ah, fuck!
joe rogan
But when you're looking at it, it almost looks the same.
Like when someone shows it to you, they're just showing you one little tiny tweak, but that tiny tweak has a huge impact.
bryan callen
You know, with wrestling, it's interesting because when the wall was up with the Soviet Union and East Germany, When they would meet, they had their own technique and the West had their own techniques.
And they would watch tape on each other, but they couldn't figure out really what they were doing, right?
Because it was so subtle.
When the wall came down and all those Eastern Europeans started coming over to the United States and wrestling with those guys, wrestling changed dramatically.
Like, in 10 years.
Because everybody's starting to share their secrets.
Because they couldn't figure it out just watching tape.
It wasn't like you watch boxing.
It was so subtle.
The little differences, like you're talking about, on how one guy would shoot a double leg or where he was holding on the knee and stuff like that made a huge difference.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you who didn't give a shit about techniques.
You could show him whatever he did worked.
Shane Connerwin.
You gotta hold your neck.
He's like, how's that feel?
I'm like, you're literally about to break my neck off.
You're gonna snap my neck off.
joe rogan
He's way too big.
brendan schaub
He's just too big of a human being.
joe rogan
I was at a mall's place and he walked in and he had a rash guard on, like a skin-cut tight rash guard, short-sleeved rash guard.
No fight scheduled, so he's eating whatever the fuck he wants, including Mexican supplements, right?
So he walks into the gym, and he didn't even look like a human.
He looked like Shrek, like if Shrek was a real person.
He was so much bigger than everybody there.
Like, this is ridiculous!
brendan schaub
Training partner for basically my entire career since I moved out here.
No one would work with this.
It was just me and Shane.
Shane took me under his wing and paid for my private training, but in exchange, I was the only one who would spar with him.
One day, and I don't I'm not going to go put his personal business out there, but one day he was going through some rough times at home.
Shano is stressed out, and he's 300 pounds, and work's kicking his ass, and he's very, very stressed out, and he's having girl problems.
So I show up to spar, and this motherfucker is there super early.
He's on the couch.
He's on the couch, right?
I'm like, what the hell are you doing, dog?
He's like, oh, it was rough.
You know, Shano has that deep voice.
It was rough last night.
Slept at the gym.
I'm good, though.
Literally almost in tears, so I'm like, whatever, man.
We spar, and I catch him with a decent right hand.
He has headgear on, 300-pound shaved silverback gorilla.
I hit him with a good right hand, and he goes...
Rips his headgear off, shakes the cage, tears are in his eyes.
He's just dealing with other stuff.
He's not doing well.
unidentified
And I'm like, what the fuck?
brendan schaub
It's me, him, and our coach Trevor Whitman was there.
joe rogan
Did you think about throwing Trevor at him like a wounded antelope at a crocodile?
brendan schaub
Trevor goes, Shane, take a minute.
He goes, no, I'm good.
I'm good.
And I'm like...
joe rogan
Fuck Shane!
brendan schaub
What about me, man?
joe rogan
I'm your friend!
unidentified
I'm fucking terrified in this bitch!
brendan schaub
I got Shane Carlin freaking out, crying over me.
bryan callen
God, that's terrifying!
joe rogan
Dude, he knocked out Gonzaga.
bryan callen
I would've faked a tummy ache.
joe rogan
He knocked out Gonzaga with a six-inch punch.
It was like this far.
It traveled this far.
brendan schaub
There's no one like...
joe rogan
It was just like this.
bryan callen
Yeah, but when you're sparring with him, the headgear's not doing shit, really, against those giant mitts.
brendan schaub
That's why my footwork...
Got good because, no, there's no, what?
You get hit by Shane Carwin's fist?
bryan callen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Everything on him is just thick.
bryan callen
Your heart is beating everything.
brendan schaub
Everything.
bryan callen
Your heart's beating all the time.
You're not looking forward to sparring.
It sucks, right?
brendan schaub
I was terrible.
I would sit in my car before and she'd be like, God damn, I don't want to do this.
And then Shane would text me, where you at, bro?
I just parked, coming.
bryan callen
Talking to myself.
brendan schaub
When he comes around, I stop talking.
I stop talking.
He leaves.
I start talking again.
It was like Debo, dog.
He just punked me.
joe rogan
That guy, he hit so hard.
He was so big, too.
The first round against Brock Lesnar, man.
That was the game changer.
bryan callen
When he did that thing where he picked me up and squeezed me, and I started tapping, and I heard him whisper, I'm only at 40%, bro.
My arm, he hit a nerve or something.
For like a month later, my arm would get these weird numb spells.
brendan schaub
Dude, when Shane would drink, he's one of those guys who would hit you.
I hate being hit.
You're 300 pounds.
We're in downtown Denver.
For sure don't hit me in front of people.
My body would be tore up.
joe rogan
Hey, he's all busted up from football, huh?
brendan schaub
Yeah, his back and his neck.
I mean, yeah.
He was a middle linebacker at Western.
Got a tryout with the Philadelphia Eagles.
And then he wrestled, you know, high caliber wrestler, man.
College, high school, everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, your body just can only take so much.
Those soft tissue areas, the breakdown areas.
brendan schaub
I tell you what, man, I miss that guy.
Ooh, do I miss him?
Best training partner I've ever had.
joe rogan
Good dude, too.
Just a great guy to be around.
brendan schaub
He was one of the guys, when I couldn't afford to work with Trevor Whitman, who was like this crazy, right?
Had world champions.
Shane sought him out and was like, hey, come with me.
I'm like, bro, what do you want me to give him?
A fucking back rub for a minute?
I got nothing.
I didn't have much money.
And Shane talked with him.
And then the next day, he was like, hey, you're coming with me.
Shane didn't have a ton of money either.
He just put it all on his credit card.
Paid for mine in his private, so me and Shane work out at the same time.
unidentified
Wow.
bryan callen
That's pretty cool, man.
joe rogan
That's very cool of him.
What is it like working with Whitman?
You like Whitman?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Whitman's biggest thing, man, is he's a super positive guy and he's creative.
Yeah, I mean, listen, what he did with Shane and with me was pretty cool.
He had two straight flat canvases.
Me and Shane were like rock'em, sock'em robots, which is why I stutter now.
Every round, every round, it would give us the 30-second marker.
No matter what we're doing on the ground, wrestling, whatever, we'd both get up, go to the center of the octagon, hit gloves, and sit there and punch each other in the face.
I wish Trevor would be like, hey, Brendan, listen, that's great, but I'm going to do you a solid.
Don't do that anymore, man.
bryan callen
Because you played football for your whole life, and then you sparred with Shane Carman for eight years.
You definitely have some brain trauma.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what, though.
Literally best trained partner in the world.
joe rogan
Speaking of brain trauma, look at this fucking fight.
We're missing a crazy fight.
Lineker is going off, man.
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Both guys are landing.
bryan callen
Crazy, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Lineker is like, it's just a difference when he hits you.
It just sucks.
bryan callen
This is why the injuries...
I talked to Joe Daddy.
I worked with him.
brendan schaub
You got a good body shot in there.
bryan callen
Joe Daddy, I said, do you have any injuries?
He goes, yeah, I got a cracked pelvis.
Broke my pelvis.
Broke three bones in my neck.
I was like, Jesus.
joe rogan
Broke my pelvis?
bryan callen
Yeah.
I said, how'd you do that?
He goes, I don't know.
In a fight, I think I got kicked.
Oh, you don't know?
Oh, okay.
brendan schaub
Broke your hip.
This fight's ridiculous, by the way.
joe rogan
Yeah, this fight's incredible.
joey diaz
You know what's incredible?
Atlantic City starts about three rows out.
Check out the people, three rows and beyond.
Look at that fat dude with the hot and orange shirt.
brendan schaub
Atlantic City starts three rows out.
joey diaz
You guys have no fucking idea what Atlantic City is.
brendan schaub
I've never been.
joe rogan
Hell.
joey diaz
They bus white trash in from all fucking ports.
It's 15 to get on the bus and to go to Atlantic City.
Here's the clinker.
They give you $10 and quarters when you get to Atlantic City.
So they basically give you $10 back.
Then they give you a book of coupons for another $50 to eat to try to keep you there all day.
So if you go, let's say, at the 8 o'clock in the morning bus, you can't leave till 5.
Whether you're broke, whether you ate all your coupons, you cannot go back on the fucking bus.
I ain't trying to be funny, I'm telling you.
joe rogan
Right.
joey diaz
I'm telling you the rules.
joe rogan
So they have a scam.
joey diaz
Every fucking hour on the hour from all points in New Jersey and New York buses go down to Atlantic City.
Right now, half those people sitting there have already lost their money.
And they're just killing time to the midnight bus.
And somebody from the UFC just happened to give them nice tickets.
They're sitting there.
They don't even know what the fuck.
They're just sitting there thinking about the bookmaker who's going to win the fucking Yankee game because that's how they're going to bounce back on Sunday.
And they can go down the shore.
And look at them.
They're mummified.
unidentified
Look at that black guy.
joey diaz
He looks like a fucking old Anderson Silva right there with a hand on his face.
That's Atlantic City for you.
Where's fucking Dana in his room with eight bodyguards?
joe rogan
Ooh, good body shot.
joey diaz
Where's Dana White?
He ain't nobody to be found yet.
They haven't showed him or the Fertitta brothers.
Fuck, they're in their rooms hiding.
This is Atlantic City.
unidentified
They ain't coming down.
joey diaz
Satellite feed.
joe rogan
Yeah, Dana comes out in the main Fox Sports fights.
He comes out for that.
Towards the end, when we have that thing where we sit down and we start breaking down the fights in the main card, that's when he comes out.
unidentified
He's getting tagged, man.
joe rogan
Oh, Lineker.
bryan callen
These guys are getting tagged.
joe rogan
Oskalich can take it, though, man.
He's eating some hard shots.
bryan callen
He's standing his ground, man.
brendan schaub
You guys are sweating, huh, Brian?
joe rogan
They sure are.
bryan callen
They sure are, Brennan.
joey diaz
Fucking Dana White comes in like De Niro on Goodfellas, shaking hands.
He does!
Towards the end, shaking hands.
Pointing at people.
Pointing at people.
What's happening?
What's happening?
joe rogan
When has there ever been a billion dollar organization with a president like that?
bryan callen
I know, he's amazing.
joe rogan
He's a character in a movie.
He doesn't even exist in a movie.
Look at his Twitter feed.
He goes back and forth with idiots all day.
Talking shit with idiots.
Idiots talk shit to him.
He talks shit right back to him.
Makes fun of their pictures and shit.
It's fucking funny.
It's fucking funny, man.
People get angry.
He's like, I'm having a good time.
unidentified
It's different for sure.
bryan callen
I was standing there with Tim Tebow.
He walks by.
He goes, Tim Tebow!
Tim Tebow, thanks for coming out!
And he just keeps walking by.
Just shouts at him.
joe rogan
It works.
It works, you know?
Oh, dude.
brendan schaub
Great body shot.
joe rogan
Lineker rips the body, man, because the kid is tough as shit.
Oskulich is no joke, man.
bryan callen
Good God.
joe rogan
But he is eating some bombs, and Lineker is just coming at him, man.
brendan schaub
I like this guy.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
Mix up them kicks, son.
bryan callen
I don't understand how some guys can take these shots.
brendan schaub
No kicks, huh?
joe rogan
Well, he was kicking earlier.
He landed some really good leg kicks.
He just turned it into...
How often is it slippery in there?
Because people say that the canvas is very...
brendan schaub
I've never really had an issue with the canvas.
The only time I've had an issue is when one of the fight monsters I was fighting, when the logos get wet, they get slippery.
That's the only part you gotta watch.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
Oh, Lineker cracked him!
Oh!
That's it!
That's it.
bryan callen
Damn.
joe rogan
Power into the third round.
Okay, dominating a fight for three rounds.
Actually, I don't know if he was dominating in the second because we were talking shit.
He's doing well.
Dominating a fight in the third round for sure.
And still, KO's him.
bryan callen
That's a flyweight.
brendan schaub
He's a flyweight.
joe rogan
He's a beast, dude.
I'm telling you, he KO's everybody.
He's a beast.
bryan callen
God.
brendan schaub
Damn, he just has a weight problem.
joe rogan
He's got a weight problem.
Well, he needs to hire like a Dolce.
brendan schaub
Get on it.
Let's say you can't afford Dolce.
Let's say Dolce has gone straight Hollywood.
You can't afford him.
joe rogan
Who do you go with in MMA? That's a very good question.
There's a void to be filled.
Oh, nice left hook.
Look at that stumble.
brendan schaub
Boom.
joe rogan
Oh, dude.
Dude.
unidentified
Ouch.
joe rogan
Ouch.
joey diaz
That's a good fucking angle for me to get into.
Nutrition for MMA fighters.
joe rogan
That's it.
Joey Diaz.
brendan schaub
Let's do it, dog.
joey diaz
Don't worry about nothing.
I'm going to drive you somewhere nice.
Just come on.
Let's go.
unidentified
Goddamn.
bryan callen
Joey.
joe rogan
This Lineker can fucking bang.
Good technique, too.
You know, he throws wide shots, but he's got a lot of weight behind him.
brendan schaub
Super wide.
joe rogan
In that situation.
He's a beast, man.
You don't want to get cracked by that guy.
But you know what?
I think DJ's too fast.
brendan schaub
DJ's too fast, too smart.
joe rogan
He's not going to stand in front of you like that.
It's going to be a totally different...
It'll be interesting to see if Lineker can adapt.
brendan schaub
If you think about the champs in every division, they're the guy with the best defense.
joe rogan
A lot.
brendan schaub
Think about it.
Name all the champs.
Most of them have the very best defense in the division.
unidentified
Kane?
joe rogan
Does Kane have really good defense?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
When's the last time you saw Kane really get caught?
joe rogan
Just the junior fight.
brendan schaub
The junior fight.
That could happen to anyone.
joe rogan
Right.
And then those fights, he got dropped by Chuck Congo.
unidentified
Chuck Congo.
joe rogan
But Chuck Congo hit him perfect.
brendan schaub
And he had like six fights.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But think about it now.
Like, Junior Dos Santos, really, we're not hearing a peep out of striking against Kane.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's true.
brendan schaub
Bigfoot, nothing.
You know?
joe rogan
You know what's crazy, too, about the Kane thing?
He got dropped by...
brendan schaub
Check Congo?
joe rogan
Check Congo.
And just immediately shoots in and gets the double.
brendan schaub
It's because that's what's natural to him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And that's got me in trouble.
Like, Frank Mayer and I were talking about this.
When Frank Mayer fought Nogueira, he got blasted with the right hand.
Blasted, right?
He's on a queer street shaking.
And his...
His kind of plan B, just his body automatically does it, is shoots in.
And that's when he shot in and then broke his arm, remember that, Kimura?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Where Noguera could have finished him.
joe rogan
I thought Noguera went to finish him because Noguera wanted to make a point because Frank was saying something about Noguera's jiu-jitsu.
So he's not worried about Noguera's jiu-jitsu.
Noguera's jiu-jitsu is kind of basic.
brendan schaub
He went for that guillotine.
joe rogan
What I had heard was that he wanted to submit Frank Mir because of their first fight, like to sort of prove a point.
brendan schaub
Which is great, but you would have had an extra, whatever, 225k in the bank if you just kept punching them like this.
It was literally over.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
And me and Frank were talking about in the back, and I was like, that right hand, man, I go in the locker room with that fucking right hand.
He goes, bro, I got cut the exact same way you did.
He goes, but your natural instinct was sit there and swing.
My body just took over, and I fucking went in, man.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, that was like the most devastating turnaround, and then...
Are you kidding me?
brendan schaub
Frank Mir Nogueira?
joe rogan
He broke his arm in half at the top.
brendan schaub
You can see it go limp.
Brazilian cats, especially Nogueira.
joe rogan
He's not tapping.
brendan schaub
Frank Mir, I think, greatest heavyweight submission artist of all time.
joe rogan
It's hard to argue.
He's definitely the best bone breaker.
bryan callen
How long does it take to actually come back from an injury like that?
joe rogan
It depends if you ever come back from it.
Tim Sylvia arguably was never the same.
Tim Sylvia arguably was never the same.
He was always a big right hand puncher but he had a real good left too and he had real problems with that arm.
He thanked Herb Dean for saving his career by stopping that fight because he was trying to keep going.
He was trying to keep swinging because he's a champ.
But who knows?
Only he knows.
Only he knows how it affected his arm.
Only Noguera knows how that arm affected him.
It affected him for a long time.
He had to postpone a fight because his recovery was not going as quickly as he thought it was.
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's a lot of guys who are in trouble.
bryan callen
That's so crazy, man.
brendan schaub
The loudest I've ever cheered is when, for someone who's not a friend or a teammate, is for Frank Mir when he fought Brock Lesnar.
I wanted to beat Brock so bad.
Because I didn't want Brock to come from WWE playing grab ass, making all this money, and just stroll over and just destroy catch, which is what he was basically doing.
bryan callen
You were cheering for him when he got him in that ankle lock?
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
And he got beat by jiu-jitsu?
My favorite fight of all time.
joe rogan
It was one of the worst taps ever because the referee was just not on it, man.
He just didn't get on it quick enough.
Fucking Mazzagotti.
unidentified
I like the guy.
brendan schaub
If you're a heavyweight and see him, yeah, for sure.
But you're like, damn, son.
joe rogan
He's a good dude.
brendan schaub
But I have my head on a swivel.
joe rogan
Yeah, there are mental lapses that you can't have.
And when you've got a guy like Frank Mir yanking on your fucking knee bone...
brendan schaub
Frank Mir gets a hold of something.
Yeah, you better watch your P's and Q's.
bryan callen
He's gonna break it.
brendan schaub
It depends who you are, yeah.
bryan callen
Oh my god, that'll just take out your...
That'll destroy your retirement.
joe rogan
Dude, he broke Tim Sylvia's arm in a weird way.
Like, he had the elbow.
Like, he was real low down on the arm bar.
brendan schaub
Bro, Frank Mir frustrates me.
unidentified
Frustrates me.
brendan schaub
It frustrates me.
Literally, we talked about it.
One of my favorite guys, bro, if I'm Frank Mir and I got those nasty leg locks and all this shit, and I'm fighting Daniel Cormier, Josh Barnett, whoever, even though Josh is a beast on the ground, I'm jumping to half guard, son.
I'm going for your fucking legs.
Listen, if you're fighting Frank Mir and you're not a leg lock specialist, and you're like, oh, I got three months to get ready for it, dude, just do what you do.
Forget about the fucking leg locks.
If you get to hold him, you're in trouble.
joe rogan
Don't you want to know basic?
For sure, basic.
brendan schaub
You don't think everyone he trains with knows basic?
If you're Frank Merritt's training partner, you're like, yeah, I know some shit on the ground with my legs because I train with Frank.
And he's still adapting that and catching him.
So then you go into the fight, and you get caught in this complex anchor lock, and you're defended with the first basic defense, because you're not very versed on him.
joe rogan
But isn't that assuming that you're really deeply caught, though?
There's a lot of the defenses catching it before it ever gets bad.
brendan schaub
For sure, for sure.
I mean, if a mirror gets caught, I mean, if he catches it, it's a good attempt.
joe rogan
Right, but you should know, like, basic defense.
brendan schaub
You should have known that shit before you took the fight, son.
joe rogan
That's true, but if you've got three weeks, you can improve your basic defense quite a bit.
brendan schaub
Oh, there's Trevor Whitman right there.
joe rogan
He is right there.
joey diaz
So what you're telling me is, okay, so you're fighting Ronda in two months.
I know from being a moron that if she touches my fucking wrist.
joe rogan
You got to know what she's doing.
You definitely got to know what she's doing.
Look at Misha Tate.
Misha Tate held it off until the third round.
The only reason why she held it off is because she knew what was going on.
Misha is a good submission artist herself.
brendan schaub
Misha hired a teammate of Ronda's who did judo's known for armbars.
Ronda was very hurt by that.
Hired someone who was on the team with Ronda, or they were in the same circle, to brought her in, and she was like, yeah, if you pay me, I'll help you out.
This is how you defend Ronda's armbar.
Wow, dude.
Way to piss off, way to frickin' poke the bear.
Ronda was like, what?
I'm gonna fuck your arm up now.
bryan callen
Way to poke the bear?
brendan schaub
Yeah, enjoy that.
joe rogan
That is the last bitch you want in your weight class.
When she hit Alexis Davis with that right hand, knee to the body, and then hip toss, full weight on her, boom!
Lands into side mount.
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
brendan schaub
I love it.
That's how you know the rest of the bitches.
They're like, who else wants some?
No, you're good.
joe rogan
16 seconds, no one wanted...
Well, Kat Zingano said she wants a fighter, but...
brendan schaub
Yeah, like two weeks later, no, I'll fight her.
No, I have this fight, though.
We'll figure it out.
unidentified
Yeah, no shit.
brendan schaub
Heavyweights, heavyweights, Sony gets knocked out.
You look on Twitter, the number fucking 45th ranked guy in the world is calling Kane out.
You know what I'm saying?
Girls, they're like, no, we're cool.
You got this, girl.
They're at the fucking movie premiere, right?
They buy all our tickets.
joe rogan
What's scary about her is she's getting better, and she's way better than everybody else.
And she's getting better.
Every time she fights, she's better.
The fucking Sarah McMahon fight, boom!
Knee to the body takes her out.
bryan callen
We've never seen that.
joe rogan
Just crushed her.
Crushed her with the knee to the body.
This fight catches her with the right hand and then perfectly placed in the knee to the body.
And then a hip toss about as good as you've ever seen in the UFC. Almost broke that bitch's neck.
brendan schaub
Everyone's like, oh my god!
joe rogan
Ronda said, I guess, that she was out when she was throwing her.
She could tell that she was limp.
So she had probably gotten knocked out by either the punch or the knee to the body sometimes makes you just go limp.
Because if I'm correct, I think she hit her with a left knee, which is like a left hook on that side of your body.
bryan callen
Right to the liver.
joe rogan
Probably a liver shot.
So she probably brutalized her, shuts your whole system down.
unidentified
Look at that.
joey diaz
Look at all those pickpockets.
unidentified
Look at that.
joey diaz
Look at all those Puerto Rican pickpockets.
Look at that shit.
unidentified
Look at that.
joey diaz
That fucking town.
Are you fucking crazy, Atlantic City?
The best fight in that fucking card is the one after the fucking UFC fight on the boardwalk.
joe rogan
Get the fuck out of here, UFC. Hey, what do you think about this possibility that Gina Carano might sign or that Holly Holm is going to fight her next?
brendan schaub
Holly Holm's not going to fight her next.
Holly Holm said she wants a couple more fights before she takes on Rondo.
unidentified
Ugh.
brendan schaub
And then Ronda has the Mike Tyson effect, man.
Who else wants some of Ronda, right?
Who else wants some of Deebo?
Everyone's like, nah, we're good.
unidentified
We're good.
brendan schaub
She's so good.
Because before, bitches were like, what?
I'll be the main event?
Championship fight?
I'm going to have all these cameras?
Not if you last eight seconds, bitch.
No one remembers you.
You got to hang in there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like Liz Carmouche, we were out with her in Vegas.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
All anyone came up and talked about was her fight with Ronda.
unidentified
Yep.
brendan schaub
Ah, you almost had her.
That was cool.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Of course.
Yeah, well, that's always what happens, too, when someone is like this super dominant person.
It's like people are waiting to see them lose.
They're waiting to see them get beat.
That's the number one reason why people go to a Floyd Mayweather fight.
brendan schaub
Just want to see him lose.
joe rogan
Yeah, if there was like a percentage, like how many people are here to see Floyd lose?
It's probably like 40%.
bryan callen
At least.
brendan schaub
Every hater in the crowd.
And they all have his Team Money Mayweather shirt.
joe rogan
People are hoping.
I saw him once.
I saw him once.
joey diaz
After that fucking last 16 minutes, you won't see Joe Silva for months.
They got him with a briefcase in the neighborhoods.
They got him in Africa.
They got him in England.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
After what?
joey diaz
The booker.
After fucking Ronda.
joe rogan
Oh.
joey diaz
Beat the hell out of her.
They just took him on Monday's meeting.
Joe Silva, you're going on a long fucking trip.
You understand me?
Long.
You got to go find some fucking body to fight this chick.
You understand me?
You got to go somewhere deep in the jungle.
bryan callen
Somewhere deep.
joe rogan
Well, what's interesting about the Gina Carano thing is if the Gina Carano does fight, that she's going to fight her first.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's how it should be.
Because guess what?
Gina Carano has one fight to make her career relevant in acting again.
So she gets one fight against Ronda.
They publicize the shit out of it.
Ronda likes Gina.
She's a fan.
So she's not going to rip her head off.
If someone said, yo girl, most of the girls out there said, hey, you got to fight Ronda Rousey.
Just let her arm bar you.
You get like a mill.
It's all good.
She's not going to hurt your face.
She's going to body slam you on your back.
And then she's going to break your arm.
But you just got to tap early.
You're going to get a nice mill.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Every chicken head's like, oh hell yeah.
And walking out with their black belt around their neck.
bryan callen
Gina's going to have a hard time making 35, isn't she?
brendan schaub
No, she's going to hire a professional.
She was never known for her work ethic.
You know what I'm saying?
So now I think she's going to give it a legit go.
She does fight Ronda.
bryan callen
Her striking is pretty legit, isn't it?
brendan schaub
It doesn't matter what the fuck she does.
It's going to last one round.
Hopefully it lasts longer than the last screw day at 16 seconds.
So we at least get to see some of it.
You know what I'm saying?
Just get in shape and show up.
Tap out.
Get your check.
Go have some fun.
Call Big Brown.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm a good time.
bryan callen
So you're giving her just the first round.
You're saying that's how dominant.
brendan schaub
Are you kidding me?
No, it's not even a fight.
Not even a fight.
No.
unidentified
They should be like, Brendan versus the guy who made his burrito.
brendan schaub
Come check it out.
It's not going to last long.
bryan callen
You're saying, so Gina Grant, because she's been out so long, or it's just a different level?
brendan schaub
It's a different level.
What are we talking about?
Alexis Davis is a beast.
joe rogan
Okay, let me say, what about this?
What about juice to the tit cyborg?
bryan callen
Pfft!
joe rogan
When she was at her best.
unidentified
Chews to the tits, bro.
bryan callen
Chews to the tits.
joe rogan
Cyborg when she was at her best.
brendan schaub
That's a tough fight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's a tough fight.
bryan callen
Cyborg could hit really hard.
brendan schaub
Really hard.
Cyborg making 135 with strict testing.
Gonna get ate the fuck up.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
Num, num, num, num, num, num.
unidentified
That's...
joe rogan
135 with strict testing is a little bit problematic.
I'd like to go back in time to the Pride Day.
bryan callen
When she was 175. Oh, shoot my ass.
brendan schaub
What are we talking about?
joe rogan
When she beat Gina...
She was terrified.
bryan callen
There was a picture of her from behind and her husband, Cyborg, and her back is roughly as wide as his.
joe rogan
It was.
She slimmed down considerably.
I've got a lot of respect for her, man.
unidentified
Me too, man.
joe rogan
She fought Karina Dams.
She fought that kickboxing Muay Thai chick who nobody wanted to fight for three years.
And Cyborg fought her, I think, in her fourth fight or something like that.
And even though she doesn't look physically the same when she was super intimidating, scary when she fought Gina Carano.
brendan schaub
She looked like Vanderlei with some cornrows.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
She looks much more womanly now.
But she's still a beast.
She lost that fight, didn't she?
Yes, she did.
brendan schaub
Super beast.
joe rogan
But I'll tell you what, man.
She got cracked in the first round.
She got front kicked in the face and dropped.
She got up.
And she came after this chick, man.
The chick was still going after her.
I mean, it was a wild-ass fight.
And the woman she fought is so legit, she hasn't been able to secure a fight in three fucking years.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
She's really good.
brendan schaub
I would still rather watch Misha Tate fight.
She can lose six in a row.
Cool.
I'll watch them.
Yeah, she's attractive.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
Ronda Rousey, yep, sign me up.
bryan callen
She's Brennan.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying?
bryan callen
You chauvinist.
brendan schaub
Gina Carano versus Ronda would be the biggest women's fight ever.
Why?
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Because they're both hot.
brendan schaub
Yes!
What are we talking about?
It's what we all want.
joey diaz
Well, that's the whole thing.
brendan schaub
Turn the lights on, let them get sweaty.
What are we talking about?
joe rogan
Listen, I am a hardcore fan, and I will watch Cyborg fight anybody.
Every time she's fighting, I'm watching.
I watch her Invicta fights.
I'm going to watch when she fights at 135. I think she's a badass fighter.
brendan schaub
I think she's a beast, man.
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, if you gave me my pick, I would pick these other girls.
bryan callen
I actually don't agree with you on that.
I like watching the most skilled fighter out there.
joey diaz
We're goofing around.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I know.
joey diaz
The UFC knows.
They have a problem.
We've got to come up with somebody.
joe rogan
Well, I think if there's anybody that's got a chance, it might be Cyborg.
joey diaz
Listen, they've got to come up with the next four fucking girls.
unidentified
If Cyborg can comfortably make 135. At the same time.
joey diaz
That's two years.
It was funny because, yeah, she'll take on the Italian chick.
brendan schaub
If I'm...
joey diaz
And Gina Carano at the same fucking time.
brendan schaub
If I'm Ronda's advisor, I'm saying you fight two more times and we're out.
We're going to wait around until they find some monster working out in freaking Brazil?
joe rogan
Well, there's got to be some gold medalists right now that are sitting around.
Some judo people that are sitting around right now.
They're seeing the money she's making and what she's been able to do.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
There's got to be some wrestlers.
They're all coming up.
It's about them putting together a career and getting to a position where they can actually challenge her and not just jumping right into the lion's mouth.
bryan callen
She may be gone by that.
brendan schaub
She's going to be out before that happens, I think.
What do I know, though?
joe rogan
I don't think so, dude.
I think she likes beating bitches' asses.
I think she's going to stick around.
I think she's going to stick around.
She enjoys it, man.
She's too good to stop.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying stop in next week.
I'm just saying maybe three or four.
joe rogan
Maybe.
brendan schaub
Two more fights is another year, Brendan.
joey diaz
Two more fights is another fucking year.
brendan schaub
You've got to realize she's been doing judo since she was a kid.
Her body's not, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, she's got a little bit of knee surgery she's about to do right now.
brendan schaub
She did it yesterday.
joe rogan
Meniscus?
brendan schaub
I think so.
They cleaned it up, scoped the knee.
joe rogan
But listen, man, she's too good to stop.
She's revolutionary good.
She's redefining combat sports for women.
brendan schaub
Even if she stopped right now, she's straight, man.
joe rogan
But she's still going to get better, man.
bryan callen
And get paid.
She's still going to get paid.
A lot of money on the table.
joe rogan
She's so gigantic.
I don't think she's going to stop.
I think you're crazy.
I'm not saying she's going to stop.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying she's going to stop.
joe rogan
You think she should?
brendan schaub
I think after three fights.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
Which stick around and wait for what?
Until they find a monster to beat you?
joe rogan
But is that what she's doing?
brendan schaub
And then she's stuttering.
Then she's with her kids and she's stuttering.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
How long are you going to wait?
And she doesn't need any more money.
Oh, and her movie career is booming.
bryan callen
She's also been pretty vocal about the fact that she is going to retire sooner than later.
joe rogan
Has she been?
bryan callen
Yeah.
At least said so on my podcast.
She's been pretty...
brendan schaub
You mean our podcast?
bryan callen
No, even mine when I did it on the Brian Calcio.
joe rogan
The Brian Callen Show, formerly known as Man Thoughts.
bryan callen
Man Thoughts.
joe rogan
Motherfucker called his show Man Thoughts for a while.
I had to talk to him.
bryan callen
Joe's like, just call it Brian Callen Show.
joe rogan
Yeah, I shouldn't even name my show The Joe Rogan Experience, but I just did it because I'm a Jimi Hendrix fan.
As you see the Jimi Hendrix mugshot behind me, I just named it that just for, you know, it was a goof.
You know?
We had a laptop with snowflakes.
bryan callen
Yep.
joe rogan
Joe Proctor.
Massachusetts boy.
Those dudes like to fight.
bryan callen
Which one?
Joe Proctor.
brendan schaub
Justin Salas.
joe rogan
Ooh.
bryan callen
Throw some bombs.
joe rogan
Quincy Mass in the house.
bryan callen
Joe, make sure you tweet for me.
unidentified
I'm going to be at the West Palm.
joe rogan
You don't do it for yourself.
Sometimes this motherfucker tells me to tweet for him and I check his page and he hasn't tweeted.
unidentified
I know!
joe rogan
And I was like, hey dude, you can't do that.
bryan callen
He gets so mad at me.
He's like, hey asshole, you asked me to tweet for you.
brendan schaub
And he hasn't even done it.
bryan callen
And it's in my drafts.
I'm like, oh, it didn't go through.
joe rogan
For instance, August 1st, I'm going to be at the Ace Theater in downtown LA with Joey and Duncan, and we've been tweeting that shit for weeks.
bryan callen
I've been tweeting.
I've been doing Instagrams and tweeting.
brendan schaub
You've been doing some of those Instagram videos, but you are awful on Twitter.
For reals, right?
So bad.
I was like, can you tweet this out, please?
So he won't put any, like, at Brendan or hashtag find the kid what we use.
He just puts, Brendan's really funny in this one, and then put a link.
Everyone's like, what the fuck?
What are you talking about?
bryan callen
I gotta learn how to do that.
No, I'm learning now.
brendan schaub
For sure learn.
joe rogan
Just pay attention a little.
bryan callen
Listen.
brendan schaub
You have a fucking iPad for a phone.
bryan callen
I know.
You didn't give us any love for the picture that we Instagrammed where I'm jumping in the air.
Did you get a text back?
brendan schaub
No, I didn't.
I did send it to you.
joe rogan
I sent you a text back.
unidentified
Did you?
brendan schaub
No?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You big time me.
unidentified
I was like, oh, that's cool.
joe rogan
I think I text back, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
But I was in Hawaii.
bryan callen
It was like flying squirrel.
We got all kinds of things.
brendan schaub
We got some funny things.
bryan callen
It's not rape if you scream surprise.
brendan schaub
I was impressed with your vertical.
unidentified
Oh, you're right.
joe rogan
I didn't text anything back.
brendan schaub
That works for me, Doug.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
Those shorts are sexy, man.
joe rogan
Big timing you?
brendan schaub
Big timing.
bryan callen
I want to thank America for all the comments about my shorts.
joe rogan
Yeah, you were jumping pretty high.
brendan schaub
That's legit, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Our friend who took that picture, literally, I was like, hey, take this picture.
This fool's about to blow his asshole out jumping on the beach.
So he jumped and she got it in one snap.
And I was like, let me see that.
I'm like, Brian, get over here.
I was like, oh my God.
bryan callen
Perfect shot.
Sun reflecting off my pigeon chest.
joe rogan
Did you run and jump?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You ran about 40 yards.
bryan callen
I remember I fell.
I go, I'm going to jump high.
Because I used to do all those demonstrations in Taekwondo.
I go, I'm going to jump really high.
unidentified
Demonstrations.
bryan callen
I took ballet.
I took ballet for two years in theater school.
joe rogan
Why did you even admit that?
bryan callen
I will.
brendan schaub
Why can't it just be a cool picture, bro?
bryan callen
Nope.
Got to keep going.
Got to push it.
And wore a leotard for two years and I could jump, ladies and gentlemen.
Wore a leotard.
Yes, I did.
joe rogan
Did it help your kicking?
bryan callen
Well, I've been doing Taekwondo, so I actually could do all the jumps and stuff.
If you can do a jumping wheel kick, you can do a tour jette in the air.
What's that, you guys?
Google it.
joe rogan
Tour jette?
bryan callen
Yeah, it's called a tour jette.
joe rogan
How many times have you had a girl say yes because you could say tour jette?
unidentified
Many.
joe rogan
Just give it to me, Brian.
bryan callen
I had sex with all the girls in my ballet class.
Wow.
All of them?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Good move.
bryan callen
I was a young man.
joe rogan
They probably thought you were confused.
They were trying to fuck you back to straight.
Running around tights on.
bryan callen
You have to wear a dance belt, which is essentially a thong and a cloth around your piece.
brendan schaub
What did your dad say when you said you want to do ballet classes?
bryan callen
My dad's a ballet fan.
brendan schaub
Is he?
joe rogan
He signed you up for it?
bryan callen
He's a ballet and opera fan.
brendan schaub
Damn, if my kid told me that, I'd be like, damn, little dude.
bryan callen
I was a good, I was a very, I was, I'm more, I should have been a ballet dancer.
I'm, Build for it.
brendan schaub
Wait, are you joking?
bryan callen
I'm being dead serious.
brendan schaub
Are you being dead serious?
bryan callen
I was a natural.
brendan schaub
Get the fuck out of here, man.
bryan callen
I was a natural.
I could do four pirouettes.
I'm not kidding.
joe rogan
How weird is this Jack Daniels commercial for fucking Frank Sinatra?
What if Frank Sinatra was alive?
He'd be like, hey, hey, yo, yo, yo.
What the fuck are you doing?
brendan schaub
What are we doing?
joe rogan
Why are you having my songs, my picture?
Who fucking sold me here?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who sold me here?
brendan schaub
Someone's making bank, though.
joe rogan
Can you imagine when Sinatra was alive, him doing a Jack Daniels commercial and fucking snapping his face?
bryan callen
I think Elvis made more money when he was dead after he was dead from all the songs than he did when he was alive.
And Christopher Walken wrote a one-man show about it called Him.
joe rogan
That was Joey's theory on Michael Jackson.
bryan callen
Yep.
He is.
brendan schaub
What's that?
bryan callen
I think Michael Jackson is making more money now.
joey diaz
Michael Jackson was dead when he was alive.
He was broke.
bryan callen
Yep.
joey diaz
And the day he died, his stock, look it up.
joe rogan
Yep.
joey diaz
He's made more this year than...
joe rogan
Oh, look at that lump.
bryan callen
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
bryan callen
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
Ain't that a bitch, though?
That sucks, man.
Making all that money after you're gone.
I guess it helps the family out.
bryan callen
What's going on with that thing?
Is that a hematoma?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's what happened to my cheek, bro.
Everyone's like, oh, you broke your jaw.
Nah, man.
Or else you headbutted me.
My cheek swelled up like a bumblebee stung.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I thought you had a broken jaw for sure.
brendan schaub
No, sir.
Flourishing now.
Back to training.
joe rogan
Powerful.
Powerful Brandon Washington.
Bro, Joe Proctor's face looks crazy.
He's got a mouse living near his ear.
brendan schaub
Dude, if that moves towards his eye, they're gonna stop the butt.
bryan callen
It's one of those New Guinea worms.
It is because it'll burst into your eyeball?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
He just got hit in that same spot.
joey diaz
Oh, my God.
See what MJ made last year.
joe rogan
Oh, it's bigger!
joey diaz
I guarantee he made a couple hundred million MJ last year.
Estimated 2013 earnings from Michael Jackson.
Garen fucking did.
brendan schaub
Filthy rich, huh?
joey diaz
And when he died, it was all a scam.
It was all a dream.
He owned like the fucking...
You could see something coming.
Remember they started putting the Beatles back on iTunes?
It was a big old scam.
He owned the fucking things.
He was in debt.
They were losing shit.
Paul McCartney did the Super Bowl.
All of a sudden he came back at 67 like he needs any fucking money.
That talk sucker.
joe rogan
He made $125 million last year.
unidentified
He's made over $700 million in the last five years.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
$700 million in the last five years.
brendan schaub
I would trade spots with him, right?
bryan callen
Wait a moment.
joe rogan
I wouldn't mind having his money.
Wait, he's dead.
joey diaz
His kids are living like fucking doctors.
Joe Jackson's living like a doctor.
The fucking mother's living like a doctor.
joe rogan
Oh, that's so funny.
joey diaz
They're all living like fucking doctors.
Unbelievable.
$125 million.
joe rogan
It is weird that you could sell someone shit after they're dead.
It almost kind of seems like when you're dead, all your artwork should be free.
bryan callen
It's an interesting looking referee.
He's got those cornrows.
I'm trying to figure him out.
joey diaz
You know who he looks like?
The female fighter.
A million dollar baby.
joe rogan
What would you do, Brian?
If you were going to die and you had a long career behind you, your kids are all full grown, everybody's healthy, and you had this idea that when you died, you're going to be like a...
I'd set up a foundation.
bryan callen
I'd set up a charity, a foundation.
But a charity, a training, like a school to train.
I'd set up schools like the way Andre Agassi did it in the inner cities and stuff.
joe rogan
Because you remember the shit that was going down with Michael Jackson's kids, Joey?
joey diaz
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was some shit where Michael Jackson's kid, his mom was missing.
Remember his mom was missing?
joey diaz
Oh, that's right.
She went to Arizona.
joe rogan
And the kids, they're having a hard time because everybody knows that they're in line to inherit that money.
Can you imagine you have that whole giant group of people, whoever has a vested interest in that, just hovering over that honeypot that is the Michael Jackson estate and seeing his kids.
His kids are going to get massive dinero.
Forget about a career.
Those kids, oh damn, Proctor cracked him with that left.
Proctor might win this even with that crazy hematomia.
brendan schaub
Bro, so what we need to learn from this is you need to fake your death.
Start making some bank.
joe rogan
That's where the money's at, but you can't enjoy it.
bryan callen
It is an interesting question, though.
Like, what would you do?
How would you set things up?
joe rogan
Oh, he hurt him again!
brendan schaub
Oh, he's messed up, man.
He's really fucked.
joe rogan
He's close.
That's it.
Damn, Joe Proctor with a mouse growing out of his head.
joey diaz
Let's do something else.
joe rogan
What did Tupac make last year?
joey diaz
What did Tupac make last year?
joe rogan
Jamie, what did Tupac make last year?
joey diaz
$3 million.
brendan schaub
$3 million.
$75.
joe rogan
He made $75.
Over the course of his death, he's probably made a shitload.
bryan callen
Now, this is going to sound weird, but can they stick a needle in that and drain that?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're gonna have to drain it.
Is that what they do?
Yeah, when you don't drain blood like that and it pulls up, it calcifies.
That's when you get cauliflower here.
I've got a piece on my knuckle, man.
I got this one knuckle that hurts like hell every time I punch the bag.
It's because I cut myself, my knuckle, and then I taped it up, I wrapped it up, but blood got underneath it and it calcified.
It's weird.
It's this weird knot I have right on this knuckle, on this finger.
Whenever I hit the bag, it takes me two rounds before it stops hurting.
I have to numb it up, so I slap it in there until it numbs up.
brendan schaub
Do you have any wrist problems?
joe rogan
Not anymore.
brendan schaub
I have wrist problems.
joe rogan
I got some of that prolotherapy on my wrist.
I used to have a big wrist problem with this right wrist.
I hurt it kickboxing in 1989, and it was bad until 2002. Yeah, it fucked with me until I got prolo therapy.
brendan schaub
I don't do anything for it.
joe rogan
Dude, prolo therapy is the shit.
brendan schaub
I need to though.
joe rogan
So good.
bryan callen
I did it on my neck and it worked.
joe rogan
Oh, you did do it?
bryan callen
Yeah, prolo therapy.
I did it for three treatments and it worked.
unidentified
For reals?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Prolo is great on anything.
bryan callen
I'll show you the place.
joe rogan
Anything where you got like tendon issues, ligament issues, I don't believe so.
bryan callen
My neck was bunched up, like really.
brendan schaub
How long ago was this?
bryan callen
The point where I got an x-ray on it.
brendan schaub
These are the injections that we're talking about?
joe rogan
Yeah.
The way I understand it.
brendan schaub
Can the boys stay over to Germany?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's that shit.
joe rogan
That's Regenikine.
brendan schaub
Oh, that's what I'm looking for.
unidentified
No, I'm good on the icy hot you're talking about.
joe rogan
Yeah, Regenikine's the shit.
I'm going tomorrow if you want to go with me.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll tell you when we get off this thing.
bryan callen
You're doing it for your neck?
joe rogan
No, no, I'm doing it for my knee and my shoulder.
I'm doing it for any time something even bothers me a little.
You just go in there and just go in there.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
And they just inject it?
joe rogan
I just take some blood.
Yeah, so far I've had my knee done, I've had my thoracic spine done twice, and I've had my cervical spine done once.
bryan callen
Wow.
brendan schaub
I'm just going to have them give me the once.
joe rogan
People get mad at me, they're like, most people can't afford it, stop talking about it, it's a miracle cure.
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
It's still a miracle cure.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever it is, the shit is fantastic.
joey diaz
So what do they do?
What's the whole process?
joe rogan
The process, which I don't understand.
bryan callen
Look at Mike Dolce.
Look at Mike Dolce.
joe rogan
Looking all sexy.
brendan schaub
I think Nisha's in this too.
joe rogan
They take blood out of your body and then they spin it in a centrifuge and heat it up.
And when you heat it up, it gives your blood a fever.
I'm obviously giving you a very layman's version of what happens.
But your body creates this anti-inflammatory response to that heat.
And then that's in the blood.
And it manifests itself as this yellow serum.
And they extract this yellow serum.
And they inject it directly into any area where you have inflammation.
Like if you have a knee inflammation, for me it was my back and my neck.
My neck, I had a bulging disc.
It completely fixed it.
joey diaz
Dang.
How long does the whole process take?
joe rogan
It took a while for me.
It took several months.
The injections, you space out.
I spaced them out.
I had two weeks worth, but then within three, four weeks afterwards, it felt good right away, but better over time as the anti-inflammation aspect of that blood serum slowly but surely brought down any injury that I had.
And then within months, it felt way better.
It's amazing.
I was having some problems with my knee.
Boom, shot it up.
Perfect.
Kicked the bag like a fucking werewolf now.
bryan callen
Dude, those kicks, I've shown everybody I know those kicks on Instagram.
joe rogan
Hanging in there in almost half a century.
bryan callen
Not bad.
47, those are some very hard kicks.
joe rogan
Joe Proctor.
bryan callen
Joe, let's get rid of that.
unidentified
Can't wait for this minute.
bryan callen
Me neither, but what time?
I gotta get out of here by 8. Come on, man.
joey diaz
Where are you going, 8 o'clock?
bryan callen
Gotta do some little stand-up.
joe rogan
Just show up.
bryan callen
Well, this weekend it's West Palm Improv.
But, uh...
Sorry.
joey diaz
What, are you there every three weeks at the West Palm Improv?
bryan callen
I love it.
joey diaz
You're there every fucking three weeks.
bryan callen
I love Florida, though.
Fort Lauderdale, West Palm.
Don't you love Florida?
This is my favorite place to perform, probably, besides Canada.
joe rogan
They're wild.
bryan callen
Canada, yeah.
I love it.
joe rogan
So the next fight is Rick Story, motherfucker.
joey diaz
Oh, shit.
There you go.
See?
joe rogan
Story and Mafra up next.
joey diaz
This ain't a bad little fucking car on the Wednesday night.
joe rogan
And then Barboza and Dunham after that.
brendan schaub
It's a fun fight.
joey diaz
And you've got to remember, guys, it's 1030 in the Atlantic City.
These are savages.
unidentified
These motherfuckers don't give a fuck about work.
joey diaz
Look at the guy with the green shirt yelling, the Yankees!
That guy with the green shirt is yelling, the Yankees!
Go Yankees!
Fuck Anderson Silva!
unidentified
Bring back Chael Sonnen and Brock Lesnar!
joe rogan
Have you guys seen this one white cat that keeps challenging these black heavyweight boxers?
Yeah.
He keeps getting the fuck beaten out of him.
He's a total troll.
But he's willing to put the gloves on and actually get in there.
He can box a little bit.
brendan schaub
He got hit with a body shot last time.
He got dropped.
joey diaz
Who dropped him?
joe rogan
He got annihilated by this dude.
brendan schaub
Some champ.
This guy's like Whatever.
joe rogan
Deontay Wilder beat the fuck out of him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
And then there's another guy who just did it recently.
brendan schaub
I didn't know he did it again.
bryan callen
He kept sitting down.
He wouldn't even fight Deontay Wilder.
brendan schaub
It's his thing.
joe rogan
Another guy did it.
He chased him out of the ring.
The guy ran out of the ring.
He dropped him, got him on the ground, kneed him in the face, and then beat him down while he was on the ground until everybody pulled him off.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, he kneed him in the face.
bryan callen
Is he trying to be funny or is he just being a dick?
joe rogan
No, he's an insane person.
brendan schaub
He thinks he's getting famous off of it.
joe rogan
He is.
brendan schaub
I mean, we're talking about him.
bryan callen
Oh, boy.
joe rogan
He's an insane person.
He's not good.
He's not a healthy guy.
Poor fucker.
brendan schaub
Just trying to...
joe rogan
Imagine wanting Deontay Wilder to punch you, too.
Jesus Christ.
That guy hits fucking hard.
brendan schaub
Well, who's filming it?
He just brings his boy and he's like, yo, dog, you're gonna have to film this.
Most gyms I know, he would get beat up too.
joe rogan
I don't think he's filming it.
You think he's filming it?
I thought it was Wilders people.
brendan schaub
No, he has a homeboy filming it for sure.
Because then how's he getting the footage and releasing all this stuff?
joe rogan
I didn't know he was releasing it.
I thought they were releasing it.
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Because otherwise, why would they keep it?
You know what I'm saying?
Why would they release that?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Because they just wanted to shell everybody.
This guy talks shit.
And then they beat his ass.
I don't know if he's...
I don't know who...
I'm just speculating right now.
I don't know who released it.
brendan schaub
I'm just saying, I think he gets a homeboy who's down, too, and was like, yo, I need you to record this.
joe rogan
Hmm.
I don't know, man.
bryan callen
I got to see this.
Is it bad that I really want to see this?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
I really want to see this.
joe rogan
It looks like fun.
bryan callen
Let's all go.
joe rogan
He looks great.
bryan callen
Let's go see this, man.
Let's go see this on a huge screen.
joe rogan
I buy him as Hercules.
bryan callen
Me too.
joe rogan
As do I. I think that they need to redo Conan the Barbarian again.
That James Moma guy was awesome.
He's perfect.
He's the best Conan of all time, as far as the way he looks.
And we know from the Game of Thrones that he's fucking awesome if you give him a good script.
bryan callen
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Please, somebody read it.
bryan callen
He's really good in Game of Thrones, man.
joe rogan
He was fantastic in the Game of Thrones, and he was the best Conan of all time.
I'm sorry, Arnold.
bryan callen
He was the most believable Conan.
brendan schaub
I've never seen it, but Arnold's the best.
bryan callen
You ever seen him in person, though?
joe rogan
This is not true.
bryan callen
Johnny Mumar or whatever?
joe rogan
Yeah, I met him.
bryan callen
Giant man.
joe rogan
Huge.
I met him at the UFC. He's big?
Very big.
bryan callen
Samoan, man.
joe rogan
Very nice guy.
Hawaiian.
bryan callen
Is he Hawaiian?
joe rogan
Yeah.
But my point being...
Oh, see?
Look at that.
That's some rock shit.
He did some rock shit.
That's ridiculous.
Samson doesn't move like that, bro.
He doesn't raise his eyebrows.
But Momo was the perfect Conan.
The greatest Conan of all time.
No doubt.
Arnold Schwarzenegger pales in comparison.
Because Schwarzenegger was really good, but he was still Arnold, and he had the hair, and he had the beautiful muscles, it was very thick and vascular.
bryan callen
I read every Conan book, every Conan book, man.
joe rogan
I've come to by Krom.
Krom does not care.
He does not care who you are.
unidentified
Krom is just Krom.
joe rogan
It was still Arnold, you know?
He still had that Austrian accent.
Like, why is his accent different?
What is Will Chamberlain doing in there?
What is he doing with that white broad?
Kane motherfucking Velazquez.
bryan callen
How was Conan?
joe rogan
Powerful brown pride.
bryan callen
Was it good or no?
joe rogan
No, it wasn't good.
It was decent.
It was decent up until about halfway in.
And then the ending was diggity diggity dog shit.
Unfortunately, because I wanted to love it.
bryan callen
Gotta have a good script.
joe rogan
MoMA guy's awesome.
I'm a huge fan of the original books, the Robert E. Howard books.
bryan callen
Great books.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have all of those.
bryan callen
I read all of them, man.
brendan schaub
You like the Planet of the Apes movies?
joe rogan
I haven't seen it yet.
I haven't seen the new one.
brendan schaub
I saw the new one.
bryan callen
It did really well.
brendan schaub
A little too apey for me.
unidentified
A little apey.
brendan schaub
A little too apey.
joe rogan
That's my kind of movie, though, bro.
brendan schaub
I would assume you would like it.
unidentified
A lot of apes.
joe rogan
I'm scared.
brendan schaub
A little too apey for me.
joe rogan
I want to watch it when there's not as many people in the seats so I can fucking spask out a little.
brendan schaub
It's a good movie, though.
It was well done, for sure.
It's good.
joe rogan
CGI, son.
They can do some shit these days.
They can do some shit.
bryan callen
They really can.
joe rogan
That's why they had to remake Godzilla, even though they didn't even have a plot.
They're like, fuck it.
Look what we can do.
What happens?
They fight?
It's Japan?
Shut up.
Make the fucking movie.
But we have to have a plot.
Ah, we'll get to that.
This is what I want Godzilla to do.
I want him to open up another monster's face and shit down his neck.
bryan callen
What is this movie?
Guardians of the Galaxy?
Is this a comedy?
joe rogan
It's a Marvel Comics series from the 80s.
bryan callen
There's a fucking raccoon.
How am I supposed to take that seriously?
brendan schaub
I will 100% be there to see that movie.
joe rogan
It was like right after Star Wars when everybody was doing these star things.
bryan callen
Yeah, but that's a raccoon.
joe rogan
They came up with Guardians of the Galaxy.
bryan callen
Can't have a raccoon.
joe rogan
Oh, this fight, son.
bryan callen
I can't wait.
joe rogan
This fight, son.
Matt Brown and Robbie Lawler.
Can't wait.
bryan callen
He's so tough.
brendan schaub
Is that San Jose?
unidentified
Yes.
brendan schaub
So I'm gonna be there.
joe rogan
That's on Fox, son.
bryan callen
Matt Brown is so rough.
joe rogan
This fight is gonna be fucking fantastic.
unidentified
Can't wait for this fucking fight.
brendan schaub
I got Lawler.
You know me, I never make picks.
If I was betting, I got Lawler.
unidentified
I think the styles clash.
joe rogan
You might be right.
bryan callen
He just keeps coming, man.
joe rogan
But I don't know, man.
bryan callen
He just keeps coming.
joe rogan
He might be wrong, too.
I'll tell you what, I'll watch that dude fight anybody he wants to fight.
brendan schaub
Matt Brown?
joe rogan
Yeah, both of them.
Robbie Lawler, too.
He's a psycho.
Look at him.
brendan schaub
Psycho.
joe rogan
Psycho.
bryan callen
Dead eyes.
joe rogan
Dude.
bryan callen
Dead eyes.
joe rogan
Well, he's calm as fuck when he gets in there, man.
I'll tell you what, when he was fighting Jake Ellenberger, I've never seen a dude legitimately smile because he was having a good time the way I've seen Robbie.
It's a very bizarre smile.
brendan schaub
Real psycho.
Real psycho.
joe rogan
He got taken down by Ellenberger and he had this juicy smile on his face like, he wants to take me down.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a beast.
joe rogan
And then he got back up, good butterfly guard, got back up to his feet, just dropping bombs.
bryan callen
This is going to be sick.
joe rogan
And Ellenberger came after him in the third.
Ellenberger was down.
brendan schaub
Did better in the third.
joe rogan
He was down on the cards, came after him.
But man, Robbie Lawer's a motherfucker right now.
Right now he's always been great.
brendan schaub
He's also the hardest hitter at 170, I think.
joe rogan
One of them.
He's right up there.
He's up there.
You can't discount Hendricks.
You can't discount Woodley.
You can't discount Lombard.
Lombard can crack!
brendan schaub
For sure, but if you look at who has more knockouts than all those guys you mentioned.
joe rogan
More fights, too, though.
brendan schaub
But still, more knockouts at a higher level.
joe rogan
Well, Lombard, you know what, did a lot of his fighting at 185, where I think he was just outmasked by a lot of people.
I think at 170, you're going to see Lombard put some serious hurt on a lot of dudes.
brendan schaub
Bro, Lombard is huge.
Lombard made me feel bad about myself.
He is genius.
unidentified
He's jacked.
joe rogan
Yeah, he is.
brendan schaub
Super jacked.
joe rogan
You know who's even more jacked than him?
Yoel Romero.
bryan callen
Yep.
joe rogan
You see Yoel Romero and you go, okay, what am I? Am I a little boy?
unidentified
I know.
It's a cartoon.
brendan schaub
And they trained together.
joe rogan
I'm not even a man.
brendan schaub
He's a superhero.
bryan callen
He's a superhero.
brendan schaub
If I was training, I'd be like, shut up, give me the picture.
No, I'm cool, man.
I'll give you the next one.
bryan callen
That's right.
brendan schaub
You'll never see me.
joe rogan
My daughter has a waist that's only slightly smaller than Yoel Romero's.
brendan schaub
For real?
joe rogan
And his body blooms out to this fucking triangle like a pterodactyl.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
The only person who's as ridiculous with his shape is Phil Davis.
unidentified
True.
Phil Davis has the most ridiculous width.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ridiculous.
Like Tommy Hearn style for a 205 pounder.
bryan callen
Yo, Ramirez is so freaky.
joe rogan
He's such a stud.
He's unbelievable stud.
brendan schaub
Did they give Phil a fight yet?
joe rogan
I do not know.
brendan schaub
I don't know either.
I don't think so.
joe rogan
I do not know.
I don't know.
brendan schaub
One of the good guys for sure.
joe rogan
Great guy.
bryan callen
He's a really nice guy.
joe rogan
That Rumble Johnson fight was a tough fight for him.
brendan schaub
Bad matchup, man.
Horrible matchup.
joe rogan
Also, he's doing a lot of talking about Jon Jones leading up to that fight.
Like, trying to hype up a Jon Jones fight if he wins.
If you do that, here's the problem.
brendan schaub
You have to win if you do that.
joe rogan
You have to win.
And dominate.
Because if you don't win, people get really upset with you.
And they have a reason to point at you.
Like, hey, he wasn't even paying attention to Jon Jones.
brendan schaub
He overlooked him.
joe rogan
He looked past Phil Davis.
Looked past him.
You can't look past Rumble at 205. He's fucking terrifying.
brendan schaub
Yes.
I just think Phil Davis overall is a better fighter, just style-wise.
There's going to be a bigger nightmare problem-wise matchup than Anthony Rumble-Johnson.
joe rogan
He might be a better fighter than what Anthony Johnson used to be.
I don't know if he's a better fighter than Anthony Johnson now.
Because Anthony Johnson now is something...
He's really coming into his own.
If you watch the fight with Orlovsky...
Yo, he beat the fuck out of our loss.
brendan schaub
Broke his jaw.
joe rogan
Broke his jaw, dropped him.
He looked sensational.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
And that was at heavyweight.
brendan schaub
Well, he walks around at 170. Well, he's a natural heavyweight, almost.
Yeah, almost.
He fights at 170. Almost.
Or tried.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But now he's down to 205. My point being that he's just a monstro.
brendan schaub
Straight monster.
joe rogan
He's a monstro.
brendan schaub
Monster.
How about him versus Glover?
Him versus Glover would be a sick fight.
joe rogan
I love that fight.
brendan schaub
You're welcome, Joseph.
bryan callen
That's what I want to say.
That's the fight I want to say.
joe rogan
But I told you he's going to have a hard time with Rogerio.
Him and Rogerio is going to be a war.
brendan schaub
I think so, too.
joe rogan
But who knows?
It might not be.
brendan schaub
He might clip him.
With that power at 205. Could be.
joe rogan
Rogerio might clip him, too, man.
Anything can happen.
Hojiri, watch that fight with Rashad Evans.
The only thing to worry about Hojiri is he pulled out with a back injury.
brendan schaub
He's been doing it forever, man.
joe rogan
That's what I'm saying.
When you hear a guy say he had a back injury, like, man, back injuries are tricky.
Like, Lundberg's going through a herniated disc.
Matt Brown went through a herniated disc.
Like, when you start going through those, man, a lot of those fucking come back.
brendan schaub
Shane Carlin had to retire because of it.
Yeah, he suffered from it the entire time I knew him.
joe rogan
Like, knee shit, man.
Knee shit sucks, but you can get an ACL reconstructed and a year later you're good to go.
Once your fucking spine starts giving out in certain spots...
You do rehab, you strengthen it up, but the problem with a lot of these guys is, look, I've had a chance to take, obviously I'm older so I don't recover as quickly, but I've had a chance to take a full year off of jiu-jitsu.
I only trained once in the last year.
I only rolled once.
But, during that time, I did nothing but strength and conditioning, nothing but kettlebells, nothing but...
Like, no yanking on my neck, no nothing, so now, like, everything is healed up strong, and everything's really good.
But most guys who are fighting don't have that opportunity, man.
They're back in the gym a couple months later, and you're gonna have to work through some shit.
Like, I talked to Matt Serra after Matt Serra fucked up his back before he had a rematch with GSP. I go, what did you do about your back?
Because you fucked your back up pretty bad.
He's like, bro, I couldn't fucking move.
He was talking about holding on to his back.
It was at the end of training, he was demonstrating a move, and then something just gave out, and he was just in insane, extreme agony.
So they give him an epidural.
You know, an epidural just takes the pain away.
unidentified
Just numbs it.
joe rogan
Takes the pain away.
And, you know, X amount of months later, he's fighting GSP in Canada for the title.
You know, when you start having, like, guys come back from them.
They come back from back injuries.
But you've got to be super careful you don't make that thing a chronic issue.
bryan callen
Yeah.
Super careful.
A nerve, spinal cord, kind of.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
I was reading about Benji Radek the other day because I used to be a fan of, well, I still am, a fan of Benji Radek.
He fought in the IFL. He was a good fighter.
unidentified
Strike force, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Good fighter.
And he had an issue with his neck.
And it was so bad that his pectoral muscle just deflated down to the bone.
His triceps and his pec.
unidentified
That's from nerve damage?
joe rogan
Yep.
Just went down to the bone.
bryan callen
Jesus.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Can you imagine that?
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
And so he had an operation.
He had to get...
When that happens...
bryan callen
Did it come back, though?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He came...
I don't know to what extent, whether it was 100%, but it certainly came back slightly, at least.
But when you have that, you have a brief window.
When you start getting severe atrophy...
To anybody out there, this is really important because it happened to a friend of mine recently, one of Eddie's black belts.
He had a neck issue.
His arm had atrophied.
By the time he got to the doctor, the doctor was like, you've got to go into surgery.
You have to get that opened up.
You can't allow it to go this far.
brendan schaub
And they can fix it, though?
joe rogan
No, that's what the doctor said.
He atrophied so much.
He's like, the odds of this coming back 100% are pretty small.
He waited too long.
He waited many months of it being completely atrophied.
Where he's got one arm that's like bigger than the other arm, you know?
And the doctor's like, your nerves are shut off.
And the problem is when there's long-term impingement like that...
bryan callen
The nerves die, right?
joe rogan
They die.
They don't come back.
And whatever you do get back is like really slow.
brendan schaub
So for sure wouldn't take that surgery.
I guess you've got nothing to lose.
joe rogan
No, you've got to take that surgery to open up the area where the nerves are.
What they do is they go into your column where the nerves are and they open it up so that your nerves have more room, so they're not impinged upon.
I think they call it a discectomy.
They cut some of the disc away, the impinging disc.
bryan callen
What is that when they say I have degenerate discs?
joe rogan
That's what it is.
It's from impacts.
Your discs get smaller and more smooshed.
bryan callen
Because they're a spongy material.
joe rogan
Yes.
And the way to combat that is, first of all, stretching and yoga are huge.
Spinal decompression is another one that's really good.
Spinal decompression is big.
Like those things that people do where they hang by their ankles.
Inversion tables.
Yeah, those are great.
I love them.
And I was showing Brendan this one that I do with a kettlebell.
bryan callen
Where you hang off the thing?
brendan schaub
Joe is super, real quick, Joe is super flexible.
bryan callen
Yes, he is.
brendan schaub
Crazy flexible.
bryan callen
You're kind of weirdly flexible.
joe rogan
It's not weird.
bryan callen
One time we had a meeting and we were talking about doing a show together.
And in front of these executives, he grabs both his ankles and pulls his feet straight up sitting on a couch.
Do you remember that?
I'd never seen him before, literally.
I'd never seen him before.
I was like, what the fuck is he doing?
And everybody kind of was like, oh, that's pretty good.
unidentified
I was like, no.
brendan schaub
It's a way to get things started.
bryan callen
Literally went, took both his legs, like the way a porn chick would do it, and just went, and I was like, I'm flexible.
And the guy, finally there was like a pause, and the guy goes, how do you do that?
He goes, I've just been doing martial arts my whole life.
My body grew around it.
brendan schaub
Grew around it.
bryan callen
I was like, alright, well, good meeting.
joe rogan
I don't remember what the meeting was about.
bryan callen
It was with Eric Tannenbaum and some other people and it was about us doing a TV show.
brendan schaub
What year was this?
bryan callen
That was probably 98 or 99. Story is throwing some heat.
joe rogan
Yeah, Rich Story is a fucking brute He's a thick kid.
Yeah, he's a brute.
And he's team takedown, right?
He's training with Hendrix and crew?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
No, I don't think so.
joe rogan
Oh, no, right?
He's Brave Legion.
Oh, shit!
joey diaz
Oh, shit!
joe rogan
He landed a hard left on Mafra.
Mafra's a little shaky.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he has the lab on his trunk, so that's with Ben Henderson and John Crouch in Arizona.
joe rogan
Nice.
That's a good spot.
brendan schaub
Great spot.
joe rogan
I love John Crouch.
brendan schaub
Me too, man.
joe rogan
Big fan.
Big fan of Henderson, too.
They're producing some good fighters, man.
I like what they did with Alex Caceres.
You know, he lost to...
joey diaz
Uriah.
joe rogan
To Uriah Faber, but he did a great job.
It was a good fight.
Tough fight for him.
Very tough fight for him.
He was in over his head, but that's a learning fight.
You know, Uriah Faber didn't even start in the WEC until he was a year older than Caceres is now.
brendan schaub
Yeah, tough fight.
joe rogan
The amount of experience Uriah has on his side.
bryan callen
How old is Uriah now?
joe rogan
36, I believe.
I want to say 35, 36. How old is he?
brendan schaub
You might be right.
I know Mitrione just turned 36, too.
His birthday was yesterday.
Shout out to Matt Mitrione.
joe rogan
Happy birthday, Big Matt.
brendan schaub
Holla, Meathead.
Meathead's fighting that Lewis cat now.
unidentified
Huh?
brendan schaub
You see that, Joe?
joe rogan
Was he fighting?
Oh, that big black dude.
brendan schaub
They were talking shit to each other.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Matt, for whatever reason, when in the crowd, he stood up.
joe rogan
Derek Lewis?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I kept giving Derek Lewis the throat slash.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
brendan schaub
And Derek said that, so they're fighting?
joe rogan
What do you think about that?
brendan schaub
I think Matt destroys them.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got to be minding his P's and Q's in the standing position.
Mitrione?
No, Mitrione can crack!
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
He can crack!
brendan schaub
A kid who played in the NFL for six years, Southpaw?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's fast.
brendan schaub
And his speed?
What?
joe rogan
He's fast, dude.
Watch that Kimbo Slice fight.
Everybody needs to watch that fight.
If you forget what Mitrione can do, if you stand in front of him...
That inside leg kick from the right hand stance when he fights southpaw, he throws that snapping inside leg kick and a nasty right hook.
Boom!
brendan schaub
I think Lewis is in trouble.
I think it's too much for Lewis right now.
joe rogan
Well, it's a big assignment.
But I'll tell you what, man.
Lewis can bang.
He hits hard.
brendan schaub
Heavy hands, for sure.
joe rogan
Heavy!
That ground and pound is ferocious.
bryan callen
Giant, giant man.
joe rogan
Ferocious.
Rick Story working that arm triangle.
Arm triangle.
Oh, yeah.
Keep that head there, son.
Oh, yeah.
Nope.
Lost the arm position.
So hard.
Rick Story can bang, man.
I was so impressed with him taking all those shots from Calvin Gaslam and then catching him with that right hand.
Because Calvin was on fire in that fight.
Up until the point when Rick dropped him.
There's a guy who needs to get his diet in order.
brendan schaub
Bro.
Yeah, if that's one thing UFC don't mess with, miss him weight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Nothing drives him more nuts than that.
joe rogan
Well, he missed it the last time, and before that he barely made it on the undercard of the Hendricks fight.
Barely made it.
brendan schaub
This is the second time.
bryan callen
What do you get fined for that?
joe rogan
Kelvin Gaslam.
brendan schaub
20%, I think?
joe rogan
20% of your purse goes to your opponent if you don't make the weight.
brendan schaub
Ooh.
joe rogan
Rick Story, which, yeah, beautiful use of the leg to keep his opponent down.
bryan callen
He's just stronger, man.
brendan schaub
He's very strong.
joe rogan
He came into 10th Planet one night and submitted everybody.
bryan callen
Did he really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was strangling dudes.
Strangling dudes.
Putting arm triangles on dudes.
bryan callen
Black belts and everybody?
joe rogan
Well, I don't think there was any black belts there at the time, but good guys.
I don't remember who it was that he rolled with, but I remember Eddie was saying, dude, this guy is strong.
And this was before he fought.
He was fighting in the UFC, I want to say it was about four years ago, three years ago.
bryan callen
He probably walks at 200 pounds, right?
joe rogan
He's a big boy.
He's a big boy.
Got an interesting style.
A lot of body punches.
brendan schaub
Remember, he's supposed to fight Nate Markhart and then Nate, whatever, didn't get cleared because of supplement issues, testosterone issues.
So then they put in Charlie Brenneman and then Story had all that hype before that and Charlie Brenneman goes in there and beats him.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
That's a weird fight.
unidentified
Kind of killed it.
joe rogan
When it's the day of the fight, and they change your opponent, and you're the main fight of the night, and you've been preparing for this dude who's a wicked striker, and you think you're going to be doing some striking, and then all of a sudden Brenneman is going for ankle picks and fucking hanging on your legs, and you're just not prepared for that.
brendan schaub
It's tough, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
But then what do you do?
If you're Rick Story, you're like, nah, man, I'm not taking it.
joe rogan
You can't do that.
Nope.
brendan schaub
You're going to be fired.
joe rogan
Send it up your pool pool, son.
bryan callen
Straight up.
Who's Nate fighting against?
Do we know?
joe rogan
Well, not only that, if you're a guy like Rick Story and you're favored above Charlie Brenneman, you're supposed to think you're going to win that fight anyway, right?
He just was not prepared for that style, which shows you how important game planning is for specific fighters when it comes to specific opponents.
He's training for a guy like Marquardt, and you better best believe that back when he was training for Marquardt, everybody was scared of Marquardt.
Marquardt was a motherfucker then, and he was a motherfucker at 185. Even though he lost to Chael Sonnen, he was still throwing bombs from his back, throwing elbows, and still dangerous to the very end.
Knocked out...
He knocked out Marvin Kampman.
Knocked out Woodley at 170. That was afterwards, actually.
Oh, that's true.
brendan schaub
That was after he got kicked out of the UFC. He got cut, went to Strikeforce, won the belt.
joe rogan
Knocked out Marvin Kampman.
He is an absolute monster.
Yeah, he's a monster.
Knocked out Damien Maia with one punch.
brendan schaub
Countered his leg kick.
joe rogan
Boom!
He was doing a flying knee or something.
bryan callen
Took Tally's ladies and put them on his back and pounded them for three rounds.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's beating some fucking...
Wilson Govea beat him down.
Nate Marquardt at 185 was a motherfucker.
brendan schaub
Back at 85. Beat James Tahuna.
He looked good.
joe rogan
I think the way he cuts is too much, man.
brendan schaub
Would you say?
joe rogan
The way he cuts is just too much.
brendan schaub
For Tahuna?
joe rogan
For Nate.
I think Nate is just like...
unidentified
Oh, at 70?
No.
joe rogan
It's just too hard.
I mean, he did it with Woodley, but man...
He fought at 185 for so long, and he was really good at that weight.
He's always going to have a hard time with the wrestlers.
When you get an elite-level wrestler, like a guy like Chael, they can put you on your back.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that Chael fight, he just went in with a horrible game plan.
He was doing something the entire camp, then the day of, a certain coach told him to do something, and there was this flying knee, and you need to land power shots, so that's why he was getting taken down.
joe rogan
I wonder if Cheo would tell everybody, if he got popped with EPO, I want to know how long you've been taking that stuff for.
He'd probably tell you, that was the first time I ever tried it.
brendan schaub
Ever, man.
joe rogan
Here's the funniest thing.
It was the day before, and you'd believe him.
brendan schaub
You'd talk to him and be like, damn, you might be right, dog.
joe rogan
I've never tried it before.
Somebody told me how to try it.
I tried to figure, when's this going to be out of my system?
They said three weeks.
I said, I'm fine.
So I took it.
There's my luck.
Don't ever cheat.
bryan callen
Where is he?
brendan schaub
He got caught with a bunch of stuff.
bryan callen
Have we heard from him?
brendan schaub
He's fighting in Metamorris.
He has a match in Metamorris.
joe rogan
He's got a jiu-jitsu match.
brendan schaub
But he lost his job on Fox, man.
He was the best they had.
bryan callen
That's so harsh to me.
joe rogan
Well, it doesn't mean he lost it forever.
It means he lost it for now.
bryan callen
He's so good.
joe rogan
What Chael should do is...
He had a book, right?
He does have a book, right?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Didn't he put out a book?
brendan schaub
I hope he did before this came out.
joe rogan
Put out another one.
Just put out another one.
brendan schaub
Do it like Lance Armstrong, dawg.
joe rogan
Do it like Lance Armstrong.
Yeah, but Chael's different in that he never lied about it for long periods of time.
He sued people.
But it is kind of funny that he was talking shit about Lance Armstrong.
brendan schaub
Yeah, about Lance Armstrong.
joe rogan
Rick Story working on that left arm, by the way.
He's got a good Kimura, man.
He's got a good Kimura.
The dude's gonna roll.
Give up the back.
Oh, beautiful transition to the mount.
Look how smooth that was, man.
That was like lightning.
bryan callen
Big story is just too much for this guy.
It's just too strong.
joe rogan
That was beautiful.
That mount was textbook.
bryan callen
John Crouch.
joe rogan
Triangle.
Arm triangle.
Here it is.
bryan callen
Oh boy.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is what I was talking about.
This is what he has.
It's really good.
He's a beast at this.
The left arm is going to stay fine.
Oh, nicey.
Nice.
Nice.
brendan schaub
Homeboy should be rolling away from it.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a wrap.
brendan schaub
See, they roll into it.
joe rogan
That's a wrap.
Beautiful.
brendan schaub
Great jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what he has.
He's got a vicious arm triangle.
joey diaz
There's nothing poor about Chael Sonnen, man.
He did what he did.
brendan schaub
He got busted.
unidentified
I know.
brendan schaub
He's a buddy.
joey diaz
He just sucks, man.
He's a buddy of everybody.
joe rogan
I love that guy.
joey diaz
He did great things for the UFC, but then again, he did bad things for the UFC. So, it negated.
It's right down the fucking middle.
unidentified
He did good things for the UFC, but then he did bad things for the fucking UFC. He probably did a lot more good than, you know.
bryan callen
Look at this fucking dilemma.
A lot of guys are doing what he did.
joey diaz
And it's not just him.
They keep busting these people.
Hey, I'm not a fighter.
It's got to be fucking...
You know, I gotta ask you something.
Herschel Walker was on the phone with Goldberg, and Goldberg asked him what's tougher, MMA training or football training, you know?
And he said, actually, MMA training.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah, by far.
joey diaz
And it's so funny how, you know, and football, you got those, you know, August is a motherfucker in football.
brendan schaub
You have five weeks.
joey diaz
August is a motherfucker.
brendan schaub
But even now in the NFL, you can't do two two-a-days in a row anymore.
joey diaz
No more?
brendan schaub
No, the new players, they create it because they say it's too much on the guys.
So now if you have a two-a-day, the next day is either a light day or an off day.
joe rogan
That's smart.
You know, all that toughness training idea that people had in their head, they're just over-training motherfuckers.
Just over-training motherfuckers, breaking joints, fucking up backs, messing up necks.
A lot of the injuries didn't have to take place.
joey diaz
It's amazing how even after, I read the book The Punch.
The Punch is about when the guy punched Rudy Tomjanovich in basketball in 1978. After that punch, road teams, you're not allowed to play no more than two basketball road teams a week.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joey diaz
Like, little things.
They realized that it was too much on players.
joe rogan
Too much stress.
joey diaz
So one thing they stopped after that punch was no more, because they explained in the book, what people don't know is in those days they flew commercial.
unidentified
Yeah.
joey diaz
So they've got to fly the late flight out, and here they fly it in.
unidentified
Yeah, it's not easy.
joey diaz
They can't have it on the airport.
You're not getting sleep.
So that's what they stop.
So it's little things like that that make adjustments.
brendan schaub
But in MMA, going through a training camp, people ask this, well, what if some freak, what if Vernon Davis, who's just this freak tied in for the 49ers, what if he decided to do MMA? He's such a good athlete.
Man, I'm telling you, when you're going through an eight-week camp and you're doing two days and three days for eight weeks, no one's signing up for that, man.
joey diaz
No.
brendan schaub
No one's like, what?
No, it's a different type of bird.
joe rogan
Yeah, and the difference between getting hit and not getting hit are so gigantic.
The difference between being an athlete where you never get hit by anything, and then being an athlete where another man is beating your ass.
Not only that, and you're going to get your ass beat in training.
Everyone's getting their ass beat.
brendan schaub
Listen, if you're at a high level, you're not going playing grab ass in Orange County at the beach in Newport with some rich dudes.
You're looking for the baddest guys in the world, and you're saying, I want you to try and whip my ass.
Every day.
joe rogan
Test your chin.
bryan callen
I'm going to miss this main card.
joe rogan
Bitch, you ain't going anywhere.
brendan schaub
You ain't going shit.
joe rogan
What is this show you're doing?
joey diaz
Where's your spot at?
joe rogan
I have to.
bryan callen
I'm closing it.
joe rogan
Get out of here.
What time does it start?
bryan callen
Eight.
joey diaz
Where is it at?
bryan callen
My set is at 8.55.
joe rogan
Your set is fine.
Don't worry about it.
bryan callen
Don't say that.
joey diaz
Where's your show at?
joe rogan
I'm fine.
bryan callen
Down at the West Side Comedy.
joe rogan
Oh, you didn't even want to go there.
Don't go there.
bryan callen
Well, I have to.
joe rogan
Downtown?
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Nothing at night.
bryan callen
No, Santa Monica.
joe rogan
There's vampires.
joey diaz
Santa Monica?
You're in no danger.
Even if you leave now, you're not going to make it, so forget it.
joe rogan
Yeah, stay here.
unidentified
Well, it's not that you got an hour, right?
brendan schaub
It was my watch out.
bryan callen
I got an hour.
brendan schaub
Oh, you're straight.
It'll take you 10 minutes to get there.
joe rogan
Shut up.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
15 minutes.
It'll take you 10 minutes.
unidentified
Please be quiet.
joe rogan
I heard it's a bad crowd, bro.
joey diaz
15 minutes of traffic.
joe rogan
I heard it's rough over there.
brendan schaub
I heard the writing.
bryan callen
I'm going to see one thing.
joe rogan
People are angry.
bryan callen
Let me see how we're doing.
joe rogan
It's a lot of bad audience members and shit.
People are drunk.
Some hacks are on right before you.
They're doing all your best bits.
Some guy's doing some shit about how he's built to dance.
brendan schaub
Taking a shit.
El Gato.
joe rogan
He has.
brendan schaub
Because the guy's seen it seven times, so he knows the routine.
joe rogan
No, not the routine.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Brian Callen's going to have to abandon some of that material and it's going to hurt him badly.
He loves it.
unidentified
He loves it.
brendan schaub
He needs to retire Elgato.
He'd kill me if he was.
joe rogan
He's got a few bits.
He's got a few bits that have been around.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're good though.
bryan callen
They're very good.
brendan schaub
I've seen it 45 times.
joe rogan
It's hard.
You know what's really hard?
If you don't put them on a CD or a DVD or something, you still have them laying around, but you never put them on anything, that becomes a real problem.
You don't know what to do with them.
Like, what am I going to do with these fucking bits?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at this transition, man.
They're going to show this again.
I love this fucking transition.
The way he hit that arm triangle, oh, they're going to show me the end of it?
Powerful shitty man in the truck.
The transition between him being in that, him trapping that arm and then hopping across.
Dude, how good did Frankie Edgar look?
brendan schaub
Yeah, he looked good.
How bad did BJ look?
joe rogan
He didn't look good.
He's not happy.
BJ's not happy with a lot of things.
Apparently it was a hard weight cut.
Obviously.
And BJ doesn't use IVs.
He thinks IVs are cheating.
brendan schaub
He thinks they're cheating?
He's so gangster.
joe rogan
He's hardcore as fuck.
unidentified
He's almost too tough.
brendan schaub
He's almost too tough to default.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
He's legit.
brendan schaub
He wanted to fight Bob Sapp and shit.
joe rogan
He's legit as fuck.
He was ready to fight Tim Sylvia.
brendan schaub
One of the best ever.
joe rogan
I interviewed him way back when he was a lightweight champ, and he said he would have fought Tim Sylvia.
brendan schaub
Well, he fought Lioto Machida and Mitch Franklin, too, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He fought Lioto Machida.
No, Lioto fought Franklin.
But BJ fought Lioto.
unidentified
That's right.
brendan schaub
That's right.
joe rogan
But he said, I go, he was when Tim Sylvia was the champ, and he was like, yeah, you know, I'd fight him.
Hey, you know, you never know what happened.
He might fall down.
I get his back.
unidentified
I was like, yo, you're that shit crazy.
brendan schaub
He's...
joe rogan
You never know what's gonna happen, you know?
He was serious, though.
brendan schaub
Dead serious.
joe rogan
Look at this, Gabriel Iglesias got a goddamn movie.
Kapow!
Only in movie theaters, son.
Gabriel blew the fuck up, strictly by word of mouth.
No TV show, just crushing it.
joey diaz
You gotta see him on Chelsea.
joe rogan
Yeah?
joey diaz
And Chelsea's like, how come no TV show?
He's like...
joe rogan
I don't need that.
Yeah, he doesn't need it.
unidentified
I'm not showing up anywhere before 12. He doesn't need it.
joey diaz
He's like, you're fucking crazy.
joe rogan
He was making, before this movie, shit.
He was making more on the road than anybody.
You would hear about him doing like nine shows in a row in a club.
Just murdering it.
unidentified
For the last month, he's been flying into cities.
joey diaz
Just flying into cities.
He took the whole month.
He usually takes the summer off.
Not this year.
For the last month, he's just been flying into cities, going into that baddest radio station and saying, what do you motherfuckers want to do tonight?
joe rogan
And then just setting up a show somewhere?
That night?
joey diaz
That night.
Crazy.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
I got a comedy club just going in?
joey diaz
Just to promote this movie.
joe rogan
What a smart man.
He's a smart man.
joey diaz
You know?
He's a smart man.
Just going across America.
Went to the Puerto Rican Day parades on the float.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
Damn, killing it.
joe rogan
Brian Cowen, you're sticking around.
Fuck that shit.
joey diaz
Yeah, they were in no danger.
joe rogan
There he told us.
They told you you don't have to call?
joey diaz
I call him there.
bryan callen
Did they call you guys?
joe rogan
Yeah, they said there's no one there.
joey diaz
I called Mike Faberman.
bryan callen
Don't mess with me, guys.
What'd they say?
joey diaz
Mike Faberman's covering for you.
Don't worry about that.
bryan callen
I know I can trust you.
I feel I can trust you guys.
joe rogan
I'm going to call Jason Tebow.
He'll take your spot.
joey diaz
Mike Faberman's going to cover for you.
bryan callen
Mike is?
joey diaz
I told him there was a bunch of broads down there.
Mike's excited.
bryan callen
I love Mike.
unidentified
He's always just walking around like, what the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
Somebody was talking some shit to Mike Faberman and Mike Faberman punched him at the comedy store a couple weeks ago.
And they were telling me about the story.
They said, yeah, somebody was talking some shit to one of these comedians and said, go ahead and punch me.
So the guy punched him.
I go, oh, it was Mike Faberman.
I go, it's probably Mike Faber.
He goes, it's a big guy, big guy with one of those old school caps, those paperboy caps.
bryan callen
Mike Faberman.
joe rogan
I'm like, that's Mike Faberman.
And then, yeah, yeah, it was Mike Faberman.
And then I ran into Mike and he was laughing.
He was like, you knew it was me?
I go, yeah, of course.
You fucking ape.
He's crazy.
He's a funny dude, man.
Good cook.
bryan callen
That's right here.
joe rogan
Mike Fabian can cook his dick off.
bryan callen
I hear he can barbecue his ass off.
joey diaz
All you got to do is put on Facebook on having a barbecue.
bryan callen
Oh, man.
joey diaz
They'll call you within one hour and go look up.
That's what we're going to do.
We'll get 10 pounds of chicken and go do this.
Just make sure you got 15 bitches there that suck dick.
I want professional dick suckers.
I want to see resumes.
I want to make sure they had chlamydia or something.
I want to make sure I go home with a disease.
unidentified
And he will go there and book for you that your shit will talk.
brendan schaub
Sounds like a barbecue I want to be at.
joey diaz
Yeah, he will go three hours early, marinate the meat for you, the whole fucking deal.
joe rogan
He really is great.
Yeah, he knows his shit.
joey diaz
Yeah, he really is great.
joe rogan
Here's an interesting statistic.
Edson Barboza, only fighter in the UFC ever to stop two guys with leg kicks.
Mike Lulo and Rafael Oliveira.
By the way, that's all in my memory.
bryan callen
Look at that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I can't think of another guy who stopped two...
I might be wrong, but I can't think of another guy who stopped two different people with leg kicks.
brendan schaub
Mitrion didn't stop Kimbo with leg kicks?
joe rogan
No, he beat his ass.
brendan schaub
I thought Mitrion went like this.
I thought Kimbo went like this.
unidentified
But not two, but I'm just trying to think of something.
joe rogan
Maybe.
unidentified
To leg kicks.
joe rogan
Barboza was all leg kicks with Lulo, Mike Lulo, and then all leg kicks with Rafael Oliveira.
brendan schaub
Barboza works with Mark Henry, that cat I was telling you about.
joe rogan
Yeah, he loves him.
Loves him.
Loves going down there.
Yeah, that Mark Henry, dude, I was so impressed by your depiction of what that guy does for you.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
With Frank Jaeger.
joe rogan
Made me want you to move there.
I don't want to lose you, buddy, but...
brendan schaub
I know.
joe rogan
Go to Jersey.
brendan schaub
Take your ass to Coles, Jersey.
joe rogan
Move them up here.
They probably don't want to be there anymore.
brendan schaub
I know.
unidentified
Come on, Mark.
bryan callen
Poor Brandon in Jersey.
brendan schaub
You'd be very miserable.
joe rogan
You'd be smacking people at the gym every day.
You would have to.
bryan callen
People would come up to you.
joe rogan
Jersey, it's all like, you don't know my mentality.
There's a reason why I'm not fighting in the UFC. A lot of it is my prior convictions.
They wouldn't let me in.
But if I got in the UFC, bro, you don't understand.
bryan callen
I go fucking mental.
brendan schaub
You don't understand.
joe rogan
I might not have, like, the best punch.
I might not have the most jujitsu skills or something.
But, bro, my mentality is I don't lose.
bryan callen
I go fucking mental.
joe rogan
My mentality is I don't lose, okay?
My fucking family would kill me if I lost.
I'm going to press forward.
I'm going to beat your ass.
And you're going to feel that when you're inside that cage with me when that door shuts.
When that door shuts and you know my mentality, it fucking comes out of me, bro.
It comes out of me.
I'm like, I see red.
I don't even know who I am.
By the time it's over, I'll have fucking memory loss, but you'll be dead.
brendan schaub
You'll be dead.
joe rogan
I'll have memory loss.
I won't even remember what happened.
It's like I fucking became a monster.
bryan callen
That's his jersey.
joe rogan
Every guy in Jersey thinks he's something special.
joey diaz
I don't even eat.
I don't even eat.
Just put me in a fucking cage.
Throw bottles in there and just let me loose on Saturday.
joe rogan
I could be Cain Velasquez if I was drunk.
joey diaz
I fucked Cage up eight years ago in the tournament.
Asked him down on a Saturday in Arizona.
I went down there.
He didn't want to fucking wrestle with me.
joe rogan
The guys who tell stories are the best.
brendan schaub
Or the worst.
joe rogan
Yeah, the best.
bryan callen
The best or the worst.
joe rogan
I beat Kevin Randallman five times in the amateurs.
Amateur what?
Amateur MMA before he came.
joey diaz
There's no amateur MMA. That's the next UFC hidden camera show is a fighter to sit with a fucking makeup on.
brendan schaub
With a little camera right here.
joey diaz
With a makeup on, like you're just an old guy, sit in the fucking audience.
joe rogan
Yeah, just go into the gym.
No, you go to the gym and you work out really badly.
brendan schaub
Bro, I was just going to Gold's gym.
The other day I was doing deadlifts.
In the middle of my set, this dude comes up to me.
I'm not going to describe him.
Big dude.
People figure out.
Huge dude.
Headphones on.
He goes, bro, bro, I don't know this guy at all.
I've seen him maybe twice in there in Gold.
I'm only there out of camp.
Bro, middle of the set.
Bro, take my air butt out.
What's up, man?
That Arlovsky fight.
Gotta get better.
Gotta get better.
You gotta get a little more aggressive, man.
Your jab?
I need more jabs.
unidentified
Oh, no.
I'm not making this up.
brendan schaub
In the middle of a set?
In the middle of my set?
bryan callen
I need more jabs!
brendan schaub
You know what I did?
And I'm still sensitive about it.
I just fought less than four weeks ago.
I had to collect my thoughts.
I went, how many fights do you have, man?
He's all, well, none.
I did some wrestling, and then I'm like, cool.
And I was like, thanks, man.
Just put my headphones on.
Took every ounce not to snap his dick off in his gym.
Every ounce.
How many fights do you have now?
Not to just grab it and go...
joe rogan
Good for you.
Good for you keeping it together.
bryan callen
That's a good question.
joey diaz
Sit in the fucking audience during a fight.
In the real audience.
Not in the UFC section.
brendan schaub
I've done it, man.
When I was coming up, for sure.
joey diaz
When you hear them, look at that fucking...
And they show up with their girlfriends.
All roided up.
brendan schaub
Everyone's a blue belt because they bought a tap-out shirt.
joey diaz
No, with their sleeves cut off and they sit there holding on to their girlfriend.
And after every fight, they're like, look at that guy.
You see that guy in the corner?
I fucked him up at that tournament.
brendan schaub
Makes me sick.
joey diaz
I fucked that guy up at the tournament.
joe rogan
You know what else is brutal?
I went to see Glory kickboxing.
Fantastic fights.
Amazing.
So much fun.
Really fun.
But when Joe Schilling is fighting, one of his sayings is he can't stop crazy.
So they're all yelling, can't stop crazy.
People in the audience...
brendan schaub
Can't stop crazy!
unidentified
Can't stop crazy!
joe rogan
He's in the middle of a fucking war with one of the best Muay Thai fighters in the world.
He wound up knocking him out in the fourth round.
It was a draw after the third round.
They fought an additional round, wild round, and Schilling caught him with a wicked right hook on the jaw in a wild scramble.
Boom!
Flatlines him for the first time in his career.
First time the dude lost.
Anyway, the whole time, can't stop crazy!
Girls, guys, fucking everybody thought, like yelling out can't stop crazy was gonna like, you know what?
unidentified
- What?
You're right! - You can't-- - Woo! - Who fuck is crazy now?
Woo! - Like, the best is when you hear, knock 'em out!
brendan schaub
Rip his head off!
unidentified
Go to the body!
Knock him out!
joe rogan
You're neglecting the body!
brendan schaub
I just want to be like, time out!
unidentified
Bitch, I'm trying!
I am trying.
What do you think I'm trying to do?
joe rogan
What do you hear when you're in there?
bryan callen
How is Barbosa?
unidentified
Nothing.
brendan schaub
I don't hear any of it.
I can hear my coach.
I listen to the other corner a lot of the time, but I can hear the corners talking.
joe rogan
But you don't hear the audience.
brendan schaub
You can hear booze and chairs, for sure.
joey diaz
Let me tell you how bad Atlantic City is.
Insurance didn't even let Ariane go.
Ariane is not there.
They only put Buffer like Buffer.
joe rogan
Ariane's got that TV show now, man.
She's doing overhauling, right?
Dude, Evan Dunham just cracked him with a right hook.
He landed a right hook in that exchange.
joey diaz
What type of TV show?
joe rogan
She's in Overhaul.
brendan schaub
Overhaul.
joey diaz
What's Overhaul?
joe rogan
Overhaul is my friend Bud's show.
Oh, snap!
That was a show where they take cars, they steal them from people, they fix them up, and then they...
Yeah.
bryan callen
What is Dunham's background?
I don't know enough about it.
joe rogan
Well, he's a jiu-jitsu black belt.
joey diaz
He was also a ballet guy.
I don't think you...
unidentified
He was a ballet.
bryan callen
We danced.
joey diaz
He was in a different company.
bryan callen
No, we danced against each other in the Nutcracker.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got good fucking striking.
He landed another right hook on the exchange after that kick.
Dude, Evan Dunham is no joke on the feet.
That's why I was surprised at them saying that he has to take him down.
He's moving real good.
And he's training a lot with Ray Sifo.
Ray has done a lot of work with him.
Kickboxing.
Oh, Dunham landed a nice left hand there.
That's what I said.
unidentified
Dunham's been in a freaking tattoo chair.
Got tatted up.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got his back and side are done up.
unidentified
Ooh, the ribs hurt.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the most painful spot, apparently.
Tagged him.
bryan callen
Look at this.
joe rogan
Working on that single.
One thing to don him is he's fucking relentless.
unidentified
Yeah.
Relentless.
joe rogan
He's been jobbed a couple of times too.
The Sean Shirk fight.
I thought he won that fight.
unidentified
It's a good fight.
joe rogan
That was a real good fight.
joey diaz
So Sean Shirk is done?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sean's just had too many injuries.
A little too much time at wrestling.
unidentified
What about the guy from AKA? Fitch?
joey diaz
No.
The other guy.
joe rogan
Which one?
unidentified
Kostchek.
joey diaz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Josh.
He moved to Fresno.
He's got his own gym.
Ooh, nice knee to the body there by Barboza.
bryan callen
Josh has done it.
You know, Josh has been in the game for a long time.
joey diaz
Right, right.
No, I don't know.
I don't see him on any cards coming up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he lost to Robbie Lawler.
First round knockout.
That was his last fight.
I don't know if he's got anything scheduled right now.
brendan schaub
Remember Dunham was on like this crazy hot streak and then he gave him Melvin Giliard?
And he knocked on that knee.
joe rogan
Gallard was on fire in that fight.
That was prime, Melvin.
When Melvin's on point, he's terrifying.
Melvin Gallard on point is like one of the best.
bryan callen
One of the best.
He's coming right in, man.
Look at this.
joe rogan
But Donald Cerrone kind of ate his heart.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he did.
joe rogan
That was a crazy fight.
brendan schaub
In Denver, that's right.
Crazy fight.
Back and forth.
joe rogan
Shin kick, and then the right hand behind it wobbled him with the shin kick, and then boom!
He shinned him in the head off the left switch.
This is an interesting fight, man.
But I gave Dunham way more credit than whoever was doing the commentary with the stand-up.
He's pretty slick.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you did.
You called it before.
You said one thing people aren't talking about is...
joe rogan
Oh, no!
unidentified
Dude!
joe rogan
He got nailed in the balls, it looked like.
bryan callen
Is that balls or the liver?
In the body, in the body, in the body.
joe rogan
Was it?
bryan callen
Yeah, I believe so.
joe rogan
It's hard to tell.
It looked like he was indicating that it was his balls.
bryan callen
Oh, that was crazy.
joe rogan
Was he indicating that it was his balls, or was he indicating that he got hit in the body?
bryan callen
He got hit in the body.
joe rogan
Well, they'll show it again.
They'll show it again.
I hope it was the body.
brendan schaub
You know what Machido's telling me?
If you get kicked in the body like that, what you gotta do?
Fall to your back, have him get in your guard so you can recover, you can grab him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Because most guys aren't just gonna jump in, so it buys you time.
unidentified
True.
brendan schaub
Since he was a kid, that's what he's learning to do.
joe rogan
Four kick-related KOs, TKOs.
bryan callen
Most in UFC history.
You can't do much against that.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Interesting.
I want to see the reading.
That's crazy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
Let's see this again.
bryan callen
This is nuts.
joe rogan
This is by the way he was indicating.
Oh, no.
Right in the solar plexus.
unidentified
Oh, bro.
brendan schaub
Nothing worse.
joe rogan
Right in the solar plexus.
But it didn't look that clean.
brendan schaub
No, it didn't.
joe rogan
It was like a foot.
Look at this.
Let's see it again.
Yeah, it grazed him.
unidentified
Weird.
brendan schaub
Right up top in the solar plexus.
unidentified
Weird.
bryan callen
Damn.
Weird.
joe rogan
Grazed him with the toes.
unidentified
Barbo.
bryan callen
Gentlemen, I love you.
I gotta go.
joe rogan
Oh, you savage.
Go do the funny.
Look at this, man.
We definitely had an impact.
bryan callen
His toes got in there, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, his toes just dug into his solar plexus.
Man, crazy.
bryan callen
Oh, look at that.
Just right in there.
joe rogan
Crazy.
unidentified
All right, boys.
joe rogan
Crazy.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I never thought about when he hit to the body to just go to your butt and recover and try and get in your guard.
At least it buys you time.
joe rogan
Yeah, and if he doesn't do that, he kicks your legs.
brendan schaub
Exactly, which is cool.
You're not going to finish the fight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know who did that?
Vitor.
When he fought John Jones.
brendan schaub
That's right.
That's right.
joe rogan
Front leg sidekick in the body.
brendan schaub
Yep.
He went right to his body.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is one of the rare times you saw a front leg sidekick being utilized like that, like to the body.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
John Jones, man.
brendan schaub
Scary dude.
There's Mark Henry right there.
joe rogan
There he is.
brendan schaub
The man.
The myth.
joe rogan
When are you going to train with him again?
brendan schaub
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
It'll take some time.
Go down there.
It's a good time to be in New Jersey.
Look at powerful.
Gabriel Iglesias is blowing the fuck up.
brendan schaub
Who's the hottest comics right now?
Him and Kevin Hart?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Tosh.0?
joe rogan
No.
He's a really good comic, but...
brendan schaub
Tosh is big because Comic Central, right?
joe rogan
Those guys are on another level.
Him and Kevin Hart's the biggest right now.
Kevin Hart's number one.
brendan schaub
Killing it.
joe rogan
Cat Williams is on his way back, I'll tell you that.
I saw his new shit.
brendan schaub
He's so funny, though.
joe rogan
Cat Williams' new shit is hilarious, dude.
He had a new thing that somebody filmed and put it up on YouTube.
I don't know if it's up anymore, because I think it was his new special that somebody filmed in the audience.
It was like an audience YouTube camera.
Dude, Kid's on fire.
He's back, 100%.
And I didn't like his last special.
I didn't think his last special was as focused.
I didn't think it was as good as his previous shit.
joey diaz
Getting arrested every fucking day.
How can you be focused?
joe rogan
Dude, it's funny.
joey diaz
His new shit is funny.
brendan schaub
Why was he getting arrested so much?
joe rogan
Getting crazy.
unidentified
Talking about drugs?
brendan schaub
Talking about some drugs?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
He's getting crazy.
unidentified
Well, you don't do that if you just eat McDonald's.
You know what, dude?
joe rogan
I don't think you can get a fucking real comedian that's not at least partially crazy.
Whenever I hear a funny guy who's doing some crazy shit, you hear about him doing something...
brendan schaub
Demons?
So if you're funny, you got some demons?
joe rogan
I don't know if it's demons, but impulsive.
Comedians are nuts.
The ability to go up there and get into a cage and duke it out with some dude, to the average person, they're not going to understand you.
So when you start telling crazy stories, they're not going to know who is this fucking guy.
The guy like me, I embrace that.
It's so warm.
I'm like, yes, tell me more.
Like my friend Tate, same way.
Tate will tell you some crazy fucking stories.
You just want to give him a hug and giggle with him.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
Because he's a savage and he loves fellow savages.
You run into a dude that is living a life like yours.
If you're some cat that's like a doctor or a lawyer or tries to keep it on the up and up all day, they're not going to know what the fuck to do with you.
Well, a lot of comics are the same way, man.
brendan schaub
Plus, they tell you some stupid-ass stories.
joe rogan
Yeah.
A lot of comics are the same way, man.
A lot of comics are just maniacs.
I mean, I keep it together as much as possible, but I know a lot of comedians are just maniacs.
And you hear about them doing something crazy...
And you're like, yeah, I saw that coming.
So when you hear about a guy like Cat Williams, he's funny as fuck, just getting arrested all over the place and doing nutty shit, screaming at an audience.
You're like, yeah, he's got a fucking engine in there, man.
Sometimes that fucker overheats.
Sometimes he blows a rod.
brendan schaub
I think the toughest thing, maybe the same with comics, is you guys are on the road and you've got to be on.
There's so much stimulus all the time.
It's when I get home, I have anxiety.
I can't sit down and relax.
I have to make myself busy.
I have to have stuff going on.
joe rogan
Really?
Well, I have a family, so it's very different.
So when I get home, I chill out.
I just hang out with the little ones and just have a good time.
I like to get in the pool and relax.
I've learned how to do that.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I bet.
joe rogan
Over the last few years of my life, I've learned how to really, really relax and just shut my phone off, don't answer any emails, don't look at my, you know, I don't do anything.
I don't read the news.
I don't do shit for hours at a time.
brendan schaub
Because if I don't do anything, then I feel like I'm slack and being lazy.
joe rogan
Well, there's certain times that I definitely feel like that too.
There's definitely times that I feel like that too.
But as long as I've covered all my bases, as long as I get all my shit done.
But I can't enjoy a vacation if I don't get all my shit done.
I've also found that.
If I haven't got my shit done, it eats at me.
I get anxiety.
brendan schaub
Dude, I went to Cancun after that Orlovsky fight.
Literally all I could think about was the Alaska fight and how I'm going to change strength.
All I did.
joe rogan
Of course.
brendan schaub
You could have put me in Nebraska.
It wouldn't matter where I was.
The beach was gray to me.
None of that mattered.
The food I could care less about.
joe rogan
You're just thinking about the most important thing.
brendan schaub
That's it.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's no way around that, man.
If you want to get great at something, you have to have madness.
And the only way you're ever really going to appreciate a significant growth moment in your life, like a big loss where you just really felt like shit, you've got to feel that pain.
You've got to feel that pain so it motivates a change.
You've got to feel that pain so that you up your training.
Crazy, man.
He towed him.
brendan schaub
That's weird.
Not a hard shot.
In Evan Dunham's defense, nothing's worse than you can hit there, man.
joe rogan
It's true, but Dunham is tough as shit.
unidentified
Solarplex is a beast.
joe rogan
It's just so unusual.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Seeing him get lit up like that.
Wow.
I mean, it's crazy because that easily could have been in any other fight.
I mean, no doubt about it, it hurt like fucking hell.
I mean, Evan Dunham is tough as shit.
If he went down...
brendan schaub
Yeah, there's a reason.
joe rogan
There's a reason.
But in any other fight, that would have just been an exchange when nothing happened and the fight kept going.
Weird.
Barbosa can crack, though.
That's what that's all about.
brendan schaub
Barbosa's a beast.
joe rogan
Yeah, he kicks fucking hard, man.
joey diaz
It's fucking 11 o'clock in New Jersey.
These savages are still out.
joe rogan
It's Wednesday night.
joey diaz
Yeah, it's Wednesday night and these savages are still out.
Most of them still have to do a tour.
Oh, shit!
brendan schaub
Ronda's girl.
joey diaz
There's two fights.
brendan schaub
Ronda's roommate.
joe rogan
Jessamyn Duke.
brendan schaub
Jessamyn Duke.
One of the four women.
joe rogan
Horsemen.
Horsewomen.
brendan schaub
I don't know what you call them.
joe rogan
Yeah, what is that about?
brendan schaub
One of the four women.
Well, it's Jessamyn, the other girl who fights in the UFC, Marina, and Ronda.
joe rogan
Ooh, this chick moves good.
That chick moves good.
brendan schaub
She's part of the squad.
She's on the Ronda program.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's another one.
Her opponent.
brendan schaub
The other one's a beast.
joe rogan
Yeah, her opponent.
brendan schaub
Super beast.
joe rogan
Moves good.
brendan schaub
Yep.
I think she took on an eight-day notice, too.
joe rogan
Frankie Edgar said he'd fight Uriah Faber at 140. Ooh, I'd love to see that fight.
If the right situation arises, he says.
Holy shit.
brendan schaub
It'd be a great fight.
joe rogan
Why don't they just fight at 145?
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Uriah fought at 145 before.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
He could do it.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
For Frankie, that's gotta be a hard-ass cut.
Another five more pounds?
brendan schaub
I bet he could do it.
joey diaz
Look at Mel Gibson, hating Jews, still making motherfucking movies.
That badass motherfucker.
joe rogan
I guess this is the Stallone production.
He can do whatever the fuck he wants.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they film it in Bulgaria because you don't have to pay the same amount of taxes and you don't have to get permits to blow shit up.
So he does it in Bulgaria because they're just like, cool dog, blow up whatever you want.
joe rogan
Stallone.
Gotta admire him.
There's never been a dude closer to 70 that's still kicking ass in a convincing manner.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
He just jumped off a building onto a helicopter in a movie and he's 70. Straight up.
brendan schaub
Straight up.
joe rogan
He's jumped off of a fucking building onto a helicopter.
You know what kind of- And he's 70 like this.
With only one lip that moves.
unidentified
Bro, you know what kind of chicken heads he's dealing with?
brendan schaub
Sylvester Stallone?
joe rogan
50-year-old chicken heads.
You've got to up your chicken head the number, the age, where you tolerate them.
brendan schaub
You think?
I don't think.
I think he's like a 23, 24-year-old.
joey diaz
He won't take pictures with women.
Did you know that?
brendan schaub
Because his wife?
joey diaz
Yeah, remember somebody was telling us?
Was I with you?
joe rogan
Yeah, he probably doesn't want to do it.
joey diaz
Doesn't take pictures with women.
No women.
brendan schaub
Because you don't want to deal with the drama.
joey diaz
Don't take a picture of another man and a woman, but no women.
brendan schaub
Arnold's the same exact way.
Arnold's the same way.
joey diaz
Yeah, too late, Arnold.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the time.
Me and him took a picture and he goes, oh, and he had his assistant get in.
I was like, I don't know this bitch.
Get this assistant in here.
joe rogan
Put her in the picture.
brendan schaub
He did that every time, yeah, every time.
It has to be for some reason, because, you know, these chicken heads are going to keep it and then post and say, no, look at this, we were here, and then he raped me or whatever the bullshit.
joe rogan
It certainly probably can happen.
Boom!
So the next fight is...
brendan schaub
Jessamine Duke.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jessamine Duke.
I think that fight already happened, son.
brendan schaub
It did.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It already took place, so Cerrone Miller is the next fight.
joey diaz
No, they're gonna put it in to match the time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
I'm going to put it into massive time.
It probably ended early as some shit.
joe rogan
Oh no, it did happen early.
That's what I'm saying.
joey diaz
No, but it probably ended early.
So it'll be a fast fight.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
You know, first round stoppage and right now it's only 8.15.
unidentified
So they've got to fill 9 to 10. They've got to fill 45 minutes.
joey diaz
I told you.
brendan schaub
Yeah, 45 minutes.
joey diaz
So this is probably a first round fight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Damn.
joey diaz
No, put the other one in.
There you go.
9 o'clock.
It's over.
joe rogan
Powerful woman's bantamweight bout.
joey diaz
Dana White still not making a fucking appearance in Atlantic City.
I told you.
He's up in his room with 18 fucking bodyguards.
They even called Kimbo Slice back here.
Just a guard out there.
joe rogan
Dookie's got some long reach, son.
Oh, shit.
good right hand by the other girl.
brendan schaub
Jessamyn only has I think a record is 3-1 real quick.
joe rogan
Yeah, she lost her last fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she's 3-1, I think.
Might be 4-1.
joe rogan
Who did she fight in her last fight?
brendan schaub
She fought homegirl who threw up the 4, what's her name?
Has that weird name?
Brazilian.
joe rogan
Amanda Nunez?
brendan schaub
No, I forget her name.
Betch?
joe rogan
Oh, Petra Cojera.
unidentified
Yep.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were shocked that she lost that fight, but I didn't think...
brendan schaub
I agree.
I didn't think it was...
joe rogan
I didn't think it was shocking.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Like, they were like, what the hell?
Like, her whole corner was like, what?
brendan schaub
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
And I was like, come on.
Did you watch the fight?
She didn't do much.
She's talented, though.
She's got good striking.
I like her length, too.
brendan schaub
Yeah, super long.
She just has to use her reach.
unidentified
Good front kick to the body.
joe rogan
It's got to be really hard being a lot of these girls knowing that Ronda is at the top of the food chain.
It's just the level of athleticism you're dealing with when you're dealing with her.
brendan schaub
Damn, she's getting blasted, son.
joe rogan
She is.
brendan schaub
Just standing straight up.
joey diaz
One of these chicks probably got a picture around her wall.
She's drinking raw eggs.
unidentified
It's going to be just like fucking Rocky 20 years later.
joey diaz
Take her to the fucking ropes.
Five rounds.
They'll do a rematch.
unidentified
They'll sell the most fucking pay-per-views.
joey diaz
Chael's son will make a comeback by then.
EPO free.
Everything fucking free.
They'll give him somebody.
joe rogan
Hey, what are they going to do?
Speak of this, okay?
Brian was talking about this guy, Aubrey de Grey, that he interviewed recently, who's an anti-aging specialist.
If they do figure out a way to reverse aging, what the fuck would they do if all of a sudden Randy Couture looked like he was 30 years old again and he's inside the octagon?
brendan schaub
Be dope.
joe rogan
How weird would that?
Damn, this girl was teeing off.
joey diaz
Oh my goodness.
I told you this chick looked good.
joe rogan
Oh, this fight's over, son.
joey diaz
You better call Ronda on the bat phone.
It's over.
joe rogan
I told you she looked good.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she did look good.
joe rogan
That chick can strike.
brendan schaub
She took this fight in eight days?
joe rogan
Damn, she can strike, man.
She can strike.
brendan schaub
You better watch out.
You beat her any faster, you're going to piss Ronda off.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Then you got a fight on your hands, son.
joe rogan
Well, all you have to do is have a few of those and you're going to have a fight on your hand anyway.
brendan schaub
Oh, one more in the women's division.
You're straight.
You're ranked number two.
Your record's 3-0.
You're in.
joe rogan
You won your fight.
You are now the number one contender.
What?
It's my first UFC fight.
joey diaz
Boom, boom, boom.
Yeah, very nice, guys.
brendan schaub
The body's shut.
joe rogan
Also, look how she keeps her chin tucked this whole time.
Her chin is tough.
Oh, man.
joey diaz
Oh, shit.
Yeah, she ain't fucking around.
joe rogan
Look at that left to the body, the right.
Boom.
joey diaz
Knee to the shoulder.
joe rogan
And she even adjusted the knee when she saw she was going down and went to the shoulder.
brendan schaub
She's not eating for a week now at the Ronda household.
You lost.
joey diaz
You lost.
brendan schaub
We don't do that.
joe rogan
Damn.
joey diaz
And this bitch here, she ain't fucking around.
That bitch looks like a Puerto Rican chick from Amherst.
She's going to kick something.
joe rogan
From Amherst!
Amherst, Massachusetts!
joey diaz
She ain't fucking around.
joe rogan
A Puerto Rican chick from Larry Kelly's neighborhood.
joey diaz
They ain't fucking around.
Look, El Nino's shirt on.
unidentified
Wow.
joey diaz
I'm telling you, Buffer's the only one they sent on this mission.
joe rogan
Damn.
joey diaz
Nobody else showed up.
brendan schaub
Bro, I flew on the plane with Buffer from the X-Men.
joe rogan
No, no, please.
That didn't happen.
Classic.
I have to earbud with him.
Otherwise...
brendan schaub
We talked the entire 50 minutes non-stop about girls.
joe rogan
Oh, no you didn't.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Don't tell me anymore.
unidentified
It's classic.
joe rogan
Don't tell me anymore because I'll start crying.
Powerful John Anik with a sweet purple tie on.
brendan schaub
I hate how guys wear three-piece suits.
joe rogan
Leslie Smith throwing down.
Very impressed.
brendan schaub
Seven and five.
joe rogan
She's tough, man.
brendan schaub
Super tough.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't like the three-piece suit either.
They gave me a jacket.
I stopped wearing the jacket.
I wore the jacket for a little while, but I'm like, come on.
unidentified
You're Joe Rogan, huh?
joe rogan
What am I wearing as a jacket?
unidentified
What are you trying to do?
joe rogan
I'm built like a bridge troll.
They don't really make jackets that work.
brendan schaub
Well, they do.
You look like Oddjob from James Bond.
joe rogan
They don't work.
brendan schaub
You don't want that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I looked very boxy.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Because, too, a man with narrow shoulders, like a John Anik, more of a feminine gentleman.
Beautiful man.
unidentified
Beautiful man.
joe rogan
Perfect skin.
brendan schaub
Can he flooring to pull off a suit now?
joe rogan
Perfect.
He can pull off a suit.
I look like an ape.
I look like someone trying to dress up a monkey.
brendan schaub
I love me some suit.
joe rogan
I just can't have that extra clothing.
I just got too much- It's not you, either.
East and West going.
Yeah, I feel like a loser.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
I feel like a loser.
I do.
brendan schaub
I put a suit on, I feel like a loser.
joe rogan
I do.
I'm not kidding.
I feel like some guy- You feel uncomfortable.
Sucking the man's dick.
Sucking dick for the man with my fucking suit on.
brendan schaub
Sucking dick for the man.
They could have started you off in something a little more subtle.
You can't put you in a three piece.
joe rogan
I gotta get a nice neck choke in there.
unidentified
Show you traditional.
joe rogan
I'm very traditional with my ties.
It's just pathetic.
It's a silly outfit.
And not only that, it's an outfit that leaves you vulnerable to attack.
I don't like having a fucking handle around my neck.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's tough.
joe rogan
I'm sorry.
I've been collar choked a gang of times.
brendan schaub
Super uncomfortable.
joe rogan
I've been Ezekiel'd many a day.
I've been caught with that fucking clock choke that guys get.
brendan schaub
When they come around.
joe rogan
Where they go like that and they go under the arm.
That's nasty.
That's a nasty choke and that's all about your collar.
Why would you have a tie on?
If you had a tie on and it's a strong tie, you're a dead man.
brendan schaub
You're screwed.
joe rogan
You're a dead man.
brendan schaub
Well, they weren't thinking about that because no one's worried about that.
joey diaz
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Oh, it's coming next.
If a guy has a tie on and you slip your hand around that knot so it's not going to change, so it's not going to slip in or out, you're controlling that knot and then you start cranking and you get side control on this motherfucker and you start cranking on that knot, he's a dead man.
If you decide he's dead, he's dead.
You left a handle on your neck.
brendan schaub
If you do, if Billy from the 9to5 office does it, they're straight.
joe rogan
Yeah, well that's true.
But I'm saying, someone who's choked guys before.
Any strong person who understands the move.
It's not a complicated move.
Ezekiel chokes.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Anything where you're collar choking.
brendan schaub
I can teach you that.
joe rogan
But if you teach somebody, you know this one where you reach back with the hand like the karate chop and you grab the back of the neck and then you do this one right here.
brendan schaub
You get through it.
joe rogan
God damn, there's so much power in there.
You teach someone that first day they kill somebody.
First day.
brendan schaub
First day they got a submission.
joe rogan
There's Brennan looking sexy as fuck.
No three-piece suit.
Note it, ladies and gentlemen.
brendan schaub
No, sir.
Oh, it's UFC now, yeah.
No, I'll rock a nice jacket, but three-piece, no.
joe rogan
Yeah.
UFC Fight Pass, I'm a member.
brendan schaub
Fight Pass, who's not a member?
joe rogan
I love the fact they're putting all this.
They're being proactive, putting all these fights on the internet.
In the future, that's going to be where it's at, man.
brendan schaub
For sure.
joe rogan
You're going to have a Fight Pass app that's going to be on your television or just whatever, and you're going to be able to watch shit live.
brendan schaub
Well, that's like Apple TV, right?
Apple TV, Netflix, all that stuff.
joe rogan
Yep, yep, yep.
Powerful Brian Stan.
A little too handsome, a little too big.
They look a little weird.
brendan schaub
It looks like he won them in some sort of contest.
joe rogan
John Anik has different hands.
Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller, 6-7.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
brendan schaub
Damn, that's a beast of a...
joe rogan
What a division.
What a division.
I hope Josh Thompson gets some good fights in.
You know, he's like 35, 36 now.
brendan schaub
He was going to retire, right?
He was thinking about that last one.
joe rogan
He's thinking about retiring.
I think it was just...
brendan schaub
Don't give him that number four, though.
Don't give Thompson number four.
Habib?
Habib?
What?
joe rogan
No joke.
Don't give anybody that guy.
brendan schaub
He's also another guy.
Who wants to fight Habib?
Everyone's like, I don't know.
Maybe next week.
Oh, I got something coming up.
No, you don't.
joe rogan
Who wants to throw it down with the crazy Q-tip?
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
When he comes out with that Kyrgyzstan crazy hat on, that shit is warm.
It's very comfortable.
brendan schaub
That dude's scary good.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's wrestling.
It's no joke.
And he's aggressive as fuck.
Plus, he comes from a place where death is just a normal part of life.
It's a very dangerous part of Russia.
brendan schaub
Well, they showed him freaking choking out grizzly bears and shit at four years old while I was playing Grava.
joe rogan
Here we go, man.
God damn, this is going to be a fun fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's going to be super fun.
I hope it goes a little while so we can see the...
See the game plans Donald has that tricky jujitsu Yeah.
And then Jim Miller just has that straight, traditional, badass, black belt jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
He fucking submitted kamois.
Now that's big, man.
brendan schaub
Huge.
joe rogan
That's big.
unidentified
With an arm bar?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
From the guard.
brendan schaub
From the guard, son.
joe rogan
Kamois is a Hoyler Gracie black belt.
Old school jiu-jitsu black belt who's been around a while.
Fabricio is known for his jiu-jitsu.
So for him to be on top and for the way he did it, too, is so slick.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Slid that shin across the face and then slapped that bitch on.
Jim Miller's got a serious fucking guard.
Real technical guard.
brendan schaub
I mean, if these two grappled, if it was just a straight, like, Metamorse or something like that, or in Worlds, Jim Miller would, I think, kind of own Cerrone on the ground.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
I do.
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
I think he'd put a, just because his position, he does a lot more jiu-jitsu in a gi.
He's known for jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
Wow.
brendan schaub
However, in the UFC, Donald has these couple of moves where you just can't duplicate in practice, and by the time you realize your continent's too late.
joe rogan
How do you think this fight goes down?
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Does it depend on which Donald Cerrone shows up?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I mean, look, we all know how talented Donald is, and sometimes, more times than not, he's showing up and you're in trouble.
I think Donald has a lot more ways to finish this fight, but I think it's the toughest fight Donald's had in a long time.
joe rogan
Wow.
I would agree with you with that.
I think it's a real close fight.
And I think that Donald, when he's on, and he's been on a lot lately, he seems to me like a dude who's turned the corner.
Like he realizes that he might have had some lapses in his career where he didn't fight at his best.
brendan schaub
Donald's also a guy who is a wild...
When I talk about not being able to rest, not being able to turn it off, you're talking about Donald who's wrestling freaking Jaguars and shit and jumping off mountains and driving Harley Davidsons into walls and shit.
He's a whole other level.
And now, Donald's not single anymore.
He has a fiance who's kind of calmed him down, so now he's focused more on fighting.
I think he's won every fight since...
I mean, the Dos Anjos fight he lost.
joe rogan
What is he coming out to?
What song has he got?
brendan schaub
Cowboy?
joe rogan
No, what is this?
Always CCR. She was a long, cool woman in a black dress.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joey diaz
Always CCR. Dang, look at him.
joe rogan
He looks like he's ready to have some fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How crazy?
He's born in Sparta, New Jersey.
Sparta.
joey diaz
We played in high school.
Sparta High.
joe rogan
That's hilarious, though.
I mean, you want to talk about a perfect place for a fighter to be born.
unidentified
Sparta.
Sparta.
brendan schaub
Both of you guys are from New Jersey?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Born...
joe rogan
Well, he's from Cuba.
brendan schaub
You're from Cuba.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is crazy, man.
brendan schaub
Such a good fight.
joe rogan
I love this fight.
Very excited.
Can't believe it's about to happen.
This is the best feeling.
Not the best, but it's a great feeling.
Like, right before a big fight starts and you know it's going to go down.
Ooh, boy!
There's something about being there live, too, that gives an extra little kick.
When you're, like, cage side for Chris Weidman, Lyoto Machida, right before that shit went down, I was just goose bumpy.
My heels were bobbing up and down.
I was like, oh, shit.
You know, jumping my knees up and down.
unidentified
I was like, oh, my goodness, here we go.
joe rogan
Especially a fight where you don't know what the fuck is going to happen, man.
Like this one.
Like the Machida-Weidman fight, man, I was blown away.
brendan schaub
Me too.
I've never been so impressed with a fighter.
With Weidman, I was like, damn, he's the truth.
joe rogan
He's an animal.
brendan schaub
Straight animal.
joe rogan
He's a tank.
Ran through everything Machida threw at him.
Machida staggered him in the fifth round.
He's still waving him on.
Like, come on.
brendan schaub
That's a champ, man.
joe rogan
Come on, yeah.
brendan schaub
That's a champ.
joe rogan
He's an animal, man.
For his run, he's right now in his prime.
He's at his best right now.
He's a tough guy to beat.
brendan schaub
He's super tough to beat.
joe rogan
For a long time.
brendan schaub
I think Jacare could give him some issues.
unidentified
Maybe.
brendan schaub
I think he's going to do well against Vitor if that is next.
joe rogan
I think Vitor's going to have a real problem with his hormones.
brendan schaub
That's what I think, too.
joe rogan
But if he doesn't...
brendan schaub
I think Luke Rockhold's going to be a tough matchup for him.
joe rogan
Luke Rockhold's a tough matchup for everybody.
He's tough for everybody.
brendan schaub
He's long, he's big.
joe rogan
You know, he caught TRT Vitor in his prime.
brendan schaub
When you mean caught, you mean when he kicked his eye off?
joe rogan
Yeah, when Vitor wheel kicked him in the head.
brendan schaub
When he flew 18 hours to Brazil and got kicked in the face, yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, he caught TRT Victor.
brendan schaub
You don't want that.
joe rogan
Vitor at his very prime.
brendan schaub
Let's go, cowboy!
joe rogan
It's going to be interesting to see what the difference is in his performance now that they're telling him he can't take testosterone anymore.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
Very interesting.
People don't think that's a big factor.
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
It's night and day.
It's a totally different world.
brendan schaub
It's like taking a playbook from Peyton Manning and being like, yeah, let's see how he does.
joe rogan
Well, it's like changing your body structure and giving your body the thing that it needs to recover the most.
I mean, there's a bunch of factors.
brendan schaub
Especially at his age, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
His age and, you know, all those years of sparring and training and fighting.
Here we go, baby.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Powerful Atlantic City.
joey diaz
They don't give a fuck.
They all want this to be over, so they go to White Castle and get down.
That's what they're really throwing down tonight.
They're busting out the fucking hammers and the left hooks.
It's over after this.
These motherfuckers are firing up.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny that they put Vaseline all over your face and then you grapple and your head goes to a guy's chest and then your shoulders go to the guy's chest and then you got Vaseline on your shoulders and then you both are scrambled on the ground so his back and your back and everybody's covered in Vaseline.
brendan schaub
True.
I don't like how long cowboy shorts are.
joe rogan
You remember the old days when they used to let the corners put Vaseline on?
Before Phil Nurse?
Phil Nurse was rubbing it on GSP's chest and pretending like, oh, we're doing voodoo on him.
Bitch, you're putting Vaseline on him.
You just put Vaseline on his face and now you're coming up with some reason why you need to do circles around his chest with your greasy ass hand?
Because GSP was seeing this dude who called himself the witch doctor, and he had all these weird things.
He'd line your chakras, and they would rub the chest and touch the back of your head, and all this goofy shit.
brendan schaub
That shit worked, though.
The fool's undefeated.
It worked.
It worked.
So the voodoo killer, Matt Serra, said, uh-uh, uh-uh.
joe rogan
It was actually post-Matt Serra that he was doing all that.
brendan schaub
It makes sense.
You got that guy's number, let me know.
joe rogan
Well, that's the one who's married to his ex-manager who's suing him.
brendan schaub
Oh, alright.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They used to call homeboy the witch doctor.
Powerful Dan Mergliata rocking a gray beard like a gangster.
Oh boy, here we go.
This is going to be interesting, too, because Miller's from New Jersey.
brendan schaub
Miller's from New Jersey.
Cowboy's a slow starter.
Miller's not.
joe rogan
Yeah, crazy local power energy coming towards Jim Miller.
The whole town of Sparta's in the house.
Everyone's wearing camo.
joey diaz
Yeah, but the last time Miller fought in New Jersey was against Healy, and Healy schooled him.
joe rogan
That was a tough fight for him.
That's true.
joey diaz
Remember, in East Rutherford, they fought, so...
brendan schaub
And he won both bonuses and lost them because he's a positive for marijuana, right?
joe rogan
That was not a good fight for Miller.
joey diaz
No.
brendan schaub
That's right.
Damn, he's a 205 underdog.
That's surprising.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, maybe it's because of that Pat Healy fight.
That was the last time they saw him here in New Jersey.
brendan schaub
That's true, but Pat Healy and Donald Cerrone are completely different fighters.
joe rogan
No doubt.
No doubt.
Yeah, completely different styles, no doubt.
brendan schaub
Yeah, completely different.
joe rogan
Yeah, why do you think he wears those long, crazy shorts?
brendan schaub
He usually doesn't do that.
I don't know what he's doing.
joe rogan
Well, they're slid up the side.
He's not going to have a hard time kicking with them.
But my only issue ever with those shorts...
Yeah.
You can grab on them.
unidentified
You can grab them.
joe rogan
Even if you get penalized, you're still grabbing.
Like, spandex is the way to go.
brendan schaub
If you grab the short and take someone down and say, hey, Shaab, don't grab the shorts.
Oh, cool, I'm in full amount.
Thanks, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
brendan schaub
Oh, won't do it again, Herb.
My bad.
joe rogan
It's like when someone grabs a fence to avoid a takedown.
That should immediately be a point off.
Immediately be a point off.
brendan schaub
Point off or you start down.
Or you touch it, you're down.
joe rogan
Yeah, something along those lines.
Because you can't just allow someone to stop a takedown and then they can land a big shot.
By the way, Jose Aldo, Chad Mendes, exactly what happened.
Aldo grabs a cage and then, boom, lands a knee to the face of Mendes.
brendan schaub
That fight's getting intense.
joe rogan
Woo, they're talking a lot of shit.
brendan schaub
He accused Mendes of PEDs, right?
joe rogan
And then Mendes accused him of PEDs.
brendan schaub
Because he's backing out of the fight.
joe rogan
He said he backed out of the fight right after random drug testing was announced.
Because he didn't want to do what happened to a few other guys.
brendan schaub
Might have been the best thing for the fight for it to get canceled.
Ooh, Cowboy's starting out fast.
joe rogan
Yeah, juice up the interest in it.
Cowboy's got that nice knee to the body.
I was just talking about that.
The nice knee to the body he does off that right leg.
brendan schaub
The only problem is with a guy like this, he's going to time that knee and take him down eventually.
joe rogan
Maybe.
That right is nasty, though.
That knee to the body is painful.
brendan schaub
Super nasty.
It makes you hesitate on all your shots.
joe rogan
It fucking hurts, man.
He did it again.
He's looking for it again.
brendan schaub
Big left, Doug.
joe rogan
Oh, good to the body.
brendan schaub
Cowboy just needs to get his sweat on.
He needs to be about two minutes in and he'll be straight.
It's early he scares me.
joe rogan
Well, that early war with Barboza, man, that was fantastic.
brendan schaub
That was when he went to the jab, but before that, he was in trouble.
joe rogan
Well, he was getting caught, but he looked okay.
I mean, obviously, he was fine, but Barboza really tried to take it to him.
Barboza knows the knock on him, jumps on him, and Barboza works with Henry, right?
There's that knee to the body again, too.
Well, you know, they know.
They know to jump on him.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So Miller's got him up against Cage here.
This is very interesting here.
unidentified
Oh, Donald's got sharp, sharp knees.
brendan schaub
Knees and elbows.
joe rogan
Yeah, in the clinch.
Very sharp.
Interesting, though, the difference between a guy like that.
Oh, there it is.
unidentified
There it is.
brendan schaub
Gotta be careful with Donald down here, though.
Like I said, he's tricky.
He's trying to set up a triangle right now.
See how he has it?
Nice, Donald.
joe rogan
Scramble.
Beautiful scramble.
Damn.
Very nice.
brendan schaub
Wrist control.
joe rogan
Threaten off the back and then get back up to his feet in the transition.
unidentified
Oh!
Nice.
joe rogan
Nice straight right.
Nice straight right.
Another one.
brendan schaub
Cowboy for a while there was in Denver just wrestling all the time.
Wrestling, non-stop.
joe rogan
Who was he wrestling with?
brendan schaub
Lee Sturr Bowling, our old wrestling coach.
Shane Carwin, my wrestling coach.
joe rogan
I like that he stops him with that left knee just to create distance, to put space in between him and Miller.
He's very good at using his knees, both offensively and defensively.
He's more offensive, it seems, with the right knee, but that left knee, very good defensively.
unidentified
Ooh.
brendan schaub
There's that right knee again.
He's faking the takedown coming up top.
joe rogan
Good kick to the body by Miller.
This wrestling coach, where does he coach out of?
brendan schaub
Out of Muscle Farm Gym.
Legit wrestling coach.
joe rogan
Muscle Farm Gym looks pretty badass, man.
That's one of the places where Rampage trained back in the day, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, back in the day.
And now they lend it to the, I guess you'd call them really the Elevation Team with Lister Bowling.
It's like Nate Markart, Lister Bowling, all those cats.
Cody Donovan, Brandon Thatch.
joe rogan
And so that's where Donald goes to work on his wrestling?
brendan schaub
Yeah, well he was a year, two years ago, last time I was there.
He was there every day.
joe rogan
Does Donald stay in Albuquerque or does he live in Colorado?
brendan schaub
I think he lives in Colorado.
He has a place in both, I want to say.
He has the ranch in Albuquerque where he has a bunch of people and farms and, you know, dogs and shit, cats.
joe rogan
Damn.
Miller's got the clinch.
Oh, beautiful takedown.
Look at that.
unidentified
Great transition.
joe rogan
Hard whizzer by Cerrone.
Back to the feet, knee to the body in the fucking clinch.
Nice.
This fight has put Joey Diaz to sleep.
joey diaz
No, no, no.
unidentified
I'm just watching.
brendan schaub
I said a word.
joey diaz
What the fuck is going on?
This is beautiful.
brendan schaub
That's a great fight.
I just want Cowboy, which he is, I just want him to get to the second round.
We're going to see some shit.
joe rogan
He's doing very well in this fight.
brendan schaub
Yeah, Miller's struggling with the reach.
joe rogan
The reach and also in closing, Donald has so many weapons.
brendan schaub
And in the transition, so get him down and Donald's not staying there.
He's moving right away, not letting him control him.
joe rogan
Damn.
brendan schaub
Which is what you gotta do.
joe rogan
That was a nice exchange right there.
But he's also, Donald's been able to get right back.
Oh, nice uppercut.
Donald's been able to get up to his feet.
Look at this, Donald's grabbing with him.
unidentified
Minute to go.
joe rogan
Donald's trying to take him down.
This is nuts.
brendan schaub
Body lock.
He's going to try tripping him, pull him off and tripping him.
joe rogan
That's a will-breaker, right?
If Donald gets him to the ground, starts bashing him.
brendan schaub
It really is when you're not thinking about it.
joe rogan
Look at that.
He didn't think it was coming.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
And he's so comfortable in the transitions that he decides to try to take you to the ground.
And constantly pressing forward.
Good pressure by Cerrone.
Oh, good right hand by Miller.
Nice short right hook.
joey diaz
That's a great fight, people.
That's a great motherfucker right here.
joe rogan
Nice short right hook by Miller.
brendan schaub
You don't want this thing to end early.
We want this going fourth, fifth round.
joe rogan
Yeah, please.
One of fives.
brendan schaub
I don't have shit to do.
Let's take this to the fifth.
No, I'm kidding.
joe rogan
Oh, damn.
That's right, I forgot this was a five-rounder.
brendan schaub
Yes, sir.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
Donald's starting to get to him.
Beautiful first round.
Beautiful first round.
brendan schaub
One round for Cowboy, I'd say.
joe rogan
Yes.
I like how they keep the upper right-hand corner, they keep the fight on.
That's pretty cool, isn't it?
brendan schaub
That's dope.
joe rogan
So you still get your commercials in, but I get to see if anybody quits in between rounds or something happens.
Or if they're pointing to a part in the body.
unidentified
Oh, Lord, please help me.
joey diaz
Tremendous.
joe rogan
What's the matter, Joey?
joey diaz
Nothing.
joe rogan
What do you want the Lord to help you about?
joey diaz
Tremendous little fucking fight.
joe rogan
That's a tremendous round, I'll tell you that.
brendan schaub
Great fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's kind of what I thought was going to happen.
Similar.
I knew that Millie was getting a lot of shots, but I had a feeling, don't worry, bro.
Bathroom's right there.
We're here for you.
unidentified
All stressed out.
brendan schaub
Damn.
unidentified
Oh, yeah. yeah.
joey diaz
Here we go.
unidentified
That knee again.
joe rogan
That fucking knee to the body is nasty.
He throws that so well, it just makes you, it fucks up your timing coming in.
Ooh, nice leg kick too, and a good straight right behind it.
Oh, he's going up high!
Again with that knee.
I like how he drives forward with that knee too.
Good power in that right knee.
Donald Cerrone's starting off this round strong.
Another strong knee to the body.
Oh, good right kick by Miller.
Oh, front kick to the body!
He's hurt!
He's hurt!
That's it!
brendan schaub
Oh, dang.
Well, no.
unidentified
What are you doing, Dan?
joe rogan
He's saying it's a groin shot.
He's saying it's a groin shot.
Wow, that was a body shot.
brendan schaub
That was a body shot, son.
joe rogan
Let's see it.
I thought it was a front kick to the body.
Yeah, it did clip the cup on the way up, but it's the body that got it.
Oh my goodness, they're going to keep the fight going?
Yo, that is crazy.
brendan schaub
Shouldn't you give five minutes?
Or did he say, let's do it right now?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
brendan schaub
Because he doesn't look recovered.
Dang, Donald had that.
That'll mess with your mentality, man, when you think the fight's over.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Man, I think that was a front kick.
brendan schaub
Ooh, great body kick.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's just going to go straight to the body.
He knows he's hurt now.
Oh, Jim's trying to take him down.
brendan schaub
Jim's forced to kind of wrestle, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's his background.
joe rogan
Front kicks are coming, son.
brendan schaub
Dang, that leg kick is nasty.
joe rogan
Beautiful sidestep, too.
brendan schaub
A confident Donald, good luck with that.
Once he's feeling it like he is right now, he's going to start getting creative.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Wow, another front kick to the body.
Man, I'm not happy with that.
That was a front kick to the body, man.
I mean, he kind of grazed the cup coming in, but it was the body shot that he went down to.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brendan schaub
How do you play that, though?
Because Dan thinks it's a groin shot.
joe rogan
I don't know.
unidentified
What can he do?
brendan schaub
And he can't let Cowboy finish him off.
joe rogan
I think you have to watch the replay.
And if the replay shows it's a body shot, you stop it.
brendan schaub
It's over for Donald?
joe rogan
That makes sense.
Yeah, Donald wins.
Yeah, if the replay showed that, what we saw, I'd say the fight stopped.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
He went to it again.
Now he's hurt.
brendan schaub
Ooh, threw a big right hand.
joe rogan
He went to him again.
joey diaz
Oh, he's just kicking that fucking stomach.
brendan schaub
How tough is Jim Miller?
joe rogan
Tough as shit.
Jim Miller might still win this fight, son.
He might still win this fight.
brendan schaub
Anything can happen.
joe rogan
Oh, man.
Dom was lighting him up with that front kick.
joey diaz
Bon Jovi could show up right now.
Look at this.
Fucking Bon Jovi could show up with the whole band right now.
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
Not even Bruce Springsteen cage size could save him.
Oh, try to switch kick.
He's worried about that front kick in the body.
brendan schaub
Look how low his hand is.
Donald's going to switch kick him in the face, I think.
joe rogan
Well, he just tried.
He just tried, but Miller covered it with his right shoulder.
Ooh, nice inside leg kick by Miller.
He can't run into anything because Miller tried to catch him with that right hand.
brendan schaub
Look how red his whole body is.
His whole body is just tagged up.
joe rogan
His organs are fucking done.
brendan schaub
Donald's going to switch it up.
joe rogan
Ooh, but he's throwing a lot of kicks too.
brendan schaub
He is.
I don't want this fight to end.
joe rogan
I don't want it to end, but I think it should have ended.
brendan schaub
Me too, but now that's not...
I want Cowboy to win, just not yet.
joe rogan
That's a crazy bad ref call.
brendan schaub
Horrible call.
unidentified
Ooh!
joe rogan
I like that inside leg kick.
Damn!
brendan schaub
It's doing work.
It's the only thing that's working for him, really.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
joey diaz
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
Oh, son.
joey diaz
He's hearing Bon Jovi right now.
Right now he's hearing fucking slippery when wet backwards.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
He's not good in New Jersey.
Damn.
joe rogan
That was spectacular.
joey diaz
Look, they just sent Joe Silva to shake his hand.
He's back on the hunt for fucking tough women.
joe rogan
That was spectacular.
Well, you know what?
Joe Silva is on the ball.
I'm sure he thought that first one was a stoppage.
He should have stopped him with that first one.
Donald was just complaining about something.
brendan schaub
I think he said it should have been stopped earlier.
joe rogan
It should have been stopped.
He's right.
He's right.
Look at this.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Set it up with a punch.
That shit is perfect.
That is a perfect shin to the head.
brendan schaub
He looked low and came high?
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
Look, he shielded it with the right hand.
Look at that.
Boom!
That right hand was designed just to stick out there.
And the shin was coming behind it the whole time.
Like, as he was throwing that right hand, he was already kicking.
Look.
Boom!
See that?
That wasn't like right hand misses, land the shin.
The right hand was just a setup to shield the kick so he wouldn't see it.
Completely blocked the kick.
He's throwing it, and the kick's right behind it.
He already knew he had him fucked up, too, and he was mostly covering his body.
That was beautiful, man.
That was beautiful.
Goddamn, that was beautiful.
brendan schaub
Damn, that was sick.
joe rogan
Donald Cerrone's a motherfucker.
The kid's on fire.
brendan schaub
Straight fire.
joe rogan
So good, man.
He's so good.
brendan schaub
So good.
joe rogan
This is the Donald Cerrone, like, focus, like you were saying, you know?
Got his shit together.
Powerful Joe Diaz, where you at tonight?
joey diaz
I'm fucking nowhere.
I'm here with you.
I ain't going nowhere.
joe rogan
You got no gigs?
You want to come to the improv?
joey diaz
No.
joe rogan
Take half my spot.
I want to watch you.
No, I want to watch you.
brendan schaub
Do it for Joe.
joe rogan
Come on, please.
joey diaz
I want to watch you.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm at the 10 o'clock show.
joey diaz
I got shorts on, I'm gonna go home.
joe rogan
Shorts, perfect.
Gabriel Iglesias does his whole show in shorts.
Look, now he's got a giant movie.
brendan schaub
Shit.
Shit.
joe rogan
He's a good dude, right?
He's one of those dudes that, I don't know him, but everybody is happy that he does well.
joey diaz
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I don't hear anybody say bad things about that guy.
joey diaz
No, he's a solid fucking dude.
brendan schaub
How old is he?
joe rogan
35, I think?
joey diaz
Maybe.
I'm here 17 years.
34, yeah.
joe rogan
Let's find out.
I'll say, yeah, 34 maybe.
Gabriel.
unidentified
Gabriel Iglesias.
joe rogan
Plus he's legit Mexican, so the Mexicans are very excited.
You know, they got very bummed out with Minstelia.
They couldn't believe it.
37. 37. Yeah, Brian Stan calling it correct.
Look at this.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
The way he covers it with that right hand, hides it with that right hand.
Look at those guys getting crazy.
unidentified
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
joey diaz
That's the way I beat him up that time.
I told you.
unidentified
I told you right after high school, that fucking guy that I went to science class with?
Damn.
joey diaz
Yeah, New Jersey's bad luck for you, Jim Miller.
Don't take these fucking fights no more.
joe rogan
Hey, he's a tough guy.
He's only going to get better.
brendan schaub
Damn, Bruce has on that three-piece.
joey diaz
I'm telling you, three-piece is making a comeback.
joe rogan
Where is Miller training?
brendan schaub
He's at his school, right?
In New Jersey.
joe rogan
Is that where he's training?
brendan schaub
I think so.
joe rogan
Does he do Mark Henry at all?
Does he train with him at all?
Ever?
brendan schaub
Nope.
joe rogan
But they're in the same town, right?
Or the same part of those?
joey diaz
Where's Mark Henry at?
brendan schaub
He's in New Jersey.
He owns Pino's Pizza.
joe rogan
He owns a pizza place?
brendan schaub
Yeah, Pino's Pizza.
It's like the best pizza you've ever had.
joey diaz
Where at?
In what part of New Jersey?
brendan schaub
I don't know what part.
I'm not familiar with it.
joey diaz
Are you close to the bridge?
Are you close to the tunnel?
brendan schaub
No.
joey diaz
Okay.
When I was a kid, there was a Pinos.
Are you close to...
Who's the jiu-jitsu guy in New Jersey?
joe rogan
Ricardo Amana?
joey diaz
Yes.
brendan schaub
Him and Ricardo are best friends.
joe rogan
Frankie?
brendan schaub
Ricardo, Frankie, and Mark Henry are the squad.
And they're like, that's the team there.
joe rogan
So Miller is training in his own place.
Who gave Miller his black belt?
brendan schaub
I'm not sure.
joe rogan
Do you know who he trains with?
brendan schaub
I don't.
I thought it was his school, right?
It was him and his brother doing work together.
joe rogan
It's so important, Brendan Schaub, so important to be in the right camp, right?
brendan schaub
You're right.
joe rogan
That's what we were talking to you about, son.
brendan schaub
True.
joey diaz
And what I see is you gotta get into a camp that makes you happy.
And what these people are doing now, like I just read that Ovarines with Greg Jackson.
You know, it's like Greg Jackson's taking everybody down there now to fucking save him.
brendan schaub
O'Brien's been in too many camps before.
joey diaz
There you go.
There you go.
Once you keep moving, it's not the fighter, it's the fighter.
There's something going on with the fighter.
You know, somebody's telling him something he don't think he wants to hear or something.
He can't take criticism.
I don't like that.
A camp is fucking really important.
brendan schaub
You can't be your own boss.
joey diaz
No, it's like a camp for comedy.
You have your friends.
You have three or four friends that you throw shit around.
One of your friends will tell you you're slipping.
That joke has been done before.
That's an old joke.
You have your friends.
joe rogan
That is true.
joey diaz
That's our camp.
Your camp is a home.
When are you happier?
When your wife is upset or when your wife is happy?
When are you fucking happy?
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Depends on what you're looking to do.
joey diaz
Depends on what you're looking to do.
Your house has to be happy.
joe rogan
If you're looking to fucking sign some legal papers, you're like, finally she's mad at me.
Let's end this.
joey diaz
If your house is undecisive, you're going to be undecisive.
joe rogan
That is true.
brendan schaub
That's a great analogy.
joey diaz
No, it's the truth.
It's totally true.
It's a true, you know, confidence is, you know, what I've found out lately at the age of 50 is, Jesus fucking, I wish somebody told me at 26 is, Guess what, guys?
Timing is everything.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joey diaz
It's everything.
It's me doing the right scissor-sweeping jiu-jitsu to my joke working, to my punch working, to me timing a knee.
joe rogan
To knowing the right time to kiss a young lady.
joey diaz
Jesus fucking Christ.
Timing is fucking everything, man.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
It really is remarkable in so many ways.
The timing is...
joe rogan
It's everything.
It's a lot.
It's certainly a lot.
I mean, it's about recognizing moments.
That's what striking is all about, recognizing the correct moment.
You know, and the more you work on your technique, the more you spar, the more you get your timing down, the more you know how to recognize the correct moment.
You know?
It's the thing with jiu-jitsu, too.
Knowing the correct moment to move.
Knowing the correct moment for transitions.
It's a lot.
It's everything.
Conversations?
How bad is it having a conversation with someone who doesn't know when to shut the fuck up?
brendan schaub
Or just ends every story?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, or just...
brendan schaub
Every detail?
joe rogan
Talks over you while you're...
The worst is when you're telling a story and instead of responding to your story and talking about, wow, that was crazy, what were you thinking?
What's going on with you, Brendan?
They just start telling a story of their own that's completely unrelated.
brendan schaub
Completely unrelated.
joe rogan
And you're like, hey man, were you not listening?
Like, I just told you a crazy-ass story.
You don't even have any questions.
brendan schaub
It's offensive.
joe rogan
We're not talking.
Yeah.
You're just using me as a fucking wall to throw a rubber ball against.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You fuck.
brendan schaub
You fuck.
joe rogan
Look at this.
unidentified
Doom!
joe rogan
Goddamn, he throws that right neck kick so good.
Perfect, too.
Look at this.
unidentified
Slam!
joe rogan
Boom!
Shin.
All shin.
Floppy foot.
Right around the neck.
Damn.
Incredible fight.
Donald Cerrone's at his best of all time right now, right?
unidentified
Wouldn't you say?
brendan schaub
You don't want to fight him, yeah.
joe rogan
He's on point right now.
He's doing so many things well.
joey diaz
When's the last time he lost?
joe rogan
He lost to Hedis.
brendan schaub
Dos Anjos.
Dos Anjos.
unidentified
How long ago?
joe rogan
Yeah, Dos Anjos was just a little bit ago.
Really close fight.
brendan schaub
This year.
He lost this year, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Dos Anjos wrestled him.
He was off, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was an interesting fight.
And then the Pettis fight, Pettis caught him with that nasty left.
joey diaz
Look at these motherfuckers bringing Chris Lytle back and shit.
joe rogan
Chris Lytle, good analyst, knows his shit, smart guy, was actually running for office in Indiana.
Smart motherfucker.
brendan schaub
All those guys are smart up there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No doubt.
No doubt, Kenny Florian.
I like that hanky.
Do you use it to blow your nose?
Because I would.
brendan schaub
For any reason it should be there.
joe rogan
Yeah, if I have a hanky.
Look at it.
Cormier got a nice hanky in there, too.
You know, I guarantee you this is some shit that the UFC made for them, like the UFC does with me.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
They got fitted.
They all got fitted for suits.
unidentified
Oh, there it is.
There you go.
joe rogan
That's why I have suits.
The UFC hooked it up.
I have an issue.
Look at powerful Chris Lytle, though.
Looking slick.
Good to see him getting some love up there.
Because he's a smart dude.
See, this is where Randy really fucked up.
Taking that short money to go over to that Bellator thing.
He missed out on this shit.
brendan schaub
All this stuff, man.
joe rogan
Because he could have been an analyst on Fox forever.
They would have loved to have him on.
brendan schaub
Everyone loves Randy.
joe rogan
Everyone loves Randy.
It would have pumped up every movie he did.
To take that short money and go over to that Bellator show, which was not going to last, man.
There's not enough guys.
It's just too hard.
brendan schaub
Well, who do you blame in that?
You blame his manager, his friends?
joe rogan
I don't blame anybody because I don't have enough information.
If I talk to Dana White, I'm most certainly going to get a story that's in favor of Randy fucking up.
If I talk to Randy, maybe he'll say that he had to take the money, he needs it.
I don't know.
Who the fuck knows?
brendan schaub
Who knows, yeah.
joe rogan
I'm not asking.
brendan schaub
Bad idea, though.
joe rogan
But it's a bad idea for a guy like Randy, as the sport is growing in all these analyst positions.
Who knows, man?
Maybe he doesn't like doing analyst positions, too.
That's also possible.
I mean...
brendan schaub
I think that's a possibility.
joe rogan
Of course.
He's a movie star now.
He's, you know...
He's, like, world-renowned.
He could do seminars.
He could do whatever he wants.
Maybe he doesn't want to wear a monkey suit.
brendan schaub
True.
joe rogan
Maybe he'd be up there with his bandana on and fucking weird bracelets and shit.
brendan schaub
I hope eventually Chael Sonnen's back up there doing this stuff.
joe rogan
Do you think that...
brendan schaub
Because he's the best.
joe rogan
Do you think that they'll take him back?
I think they can take him back.
I think you'd have to have some.
brendan schaub
How do you do it?
joey diaz
The country forgives everything.
It's how he approaches it.
This is going to be how he approaches it.
This is all up to him.
brendan schaub
Well, I'm sure the UFC wants him, so I'm sure at some point they're going to advise him, you need to do, you know...
joe rogan
I don't know what you can advise, though.
I think part of the issue is...
Yeah, part of the issue is what do you say?
What do you tell him to do?
It's all just speculation.
Like, what's going to make it go away quicker?
I don't think there's anything.
joey diaz
Time.
They forgave Michael Vick.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they did.
That's a good point.
joey diaz
Okay, they forgave Michael Vick, guys.
It's time and how you approach it.
brendan schaub
I still haven't.
joey diaz
There's a lot of people that hate him, but I'm still saying how.
Nobody's hating on channel here.
This was very hard for Dana.
This was very hard for Fox.
It was just something that...
You know, bro, they wouldn't have let him go if he didn't goof on people.
He goofed on people.
He goofed on people and sometimes if you live by the motherfucking sword, you die by the motherfucking sword.
joe rogan
I don't think you're right in that regard.
I think they would have let him go no matter what.
joey diaz
They would have let him go no matter what, but you know, even the thing he said about whatever gave him cancer.
He said a lot of fucked up things, guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he said he didn't say that.
joey diaz
A lot of shit was funny and a lot of shit wasn't.
If you would have said or I would have said it, we would have had problems, man.
You know, he said a lot of fucked up shit.
He knows this.
He knows this.
brendan schaub
That's what made him a star, though, too, you know?
Like I said, live by the sword, die by the sword.
joey diaz
Well, it's interesting.
joe rogan
He became this shit talker, like, late in his career.
Like, he'd go to the early career.
Like, he fought in Bodog.
Back when he fought in Bodog.
brendan schaub
Remember Bodog?
joe rogan
Remember Bodog?
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Bodog put on some good fucking fights, man.
unidentified
Heck, yeah.
brendan schaub
Kane fought in Bodog.
joe rogan
Did he really?
brendan schaub
Kane fought in Bodog.
joe rogan
Remember Matt Linlin vs.
Fedor?
That might have been what brought Bodog down.
unidentified
True.
What?
joe rogan
They had to pay him like a million dollars to fight on the internet.
Back when the internet was not there.
brendan schaub
And then the homeboy of Bodog ran the Bodog betting website and that got shut down.
joe rogan
Well, not only did he get shut down, but he is like a criminal.
He can't even come into the country anymore.
Because he was operating what they deemed to be an illegal gambling site.
And so, like, Calvin Ayers was like, he had some thing with Dana White, where he invited Dana, said he would pick him up on a private jet and show him his lifestyle.
You know, because Dana was jealous of him.
Yeah, this is like when Bodog was competing with the UFC. They're trying to?
Yeah, way, way, way, way back in the day.
And Dana was like, dude, you're a criminal.
You can't even come to this country.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm all good to see what you're doing.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
I'm going to hang out with you, you criminal?
brendan schaub
And then after Bodog went down, that's when Affliction opened up and signed Fedor?
joe rogan
Yes.
There was a billboard on Vegas.
I'll never forget it.
As I was driving in, Calvin Iyer Presents, and it was him standing there, like, with a suit on, like, sunglasses on and shit.
brendan schaub
So dope.
joe rogan
I was like, what am I looking at?
brendan schaub
I love it.
joe rogan
He's advertising fights by showing pictures of him.
Himself.
brendan schaub
His ego's so big, and he's so fucking rich.
joe rogan
Well, you know, when you're a baller like that.
And also, he's also promoting a brand, right?
brendan schaub
He wants to be Dana White.
That's what he wants to do, by putting his face on the billboard.
joe rogan
Sort of, but back then, Dana White wasn't even the Dana White that you think of when you think of him today.
You know, today he's a superstar.
Back then, I don't believe he was nearly as famous, because MMA wasn't as famous.
It was more of the transitionary period before MMA exploded.
I think it was pre, I might be wrong, but I want to say it was pre-Ultimate Fighter, or close.
brendan schaub
And then Affliction came along, just paying Orlovsky, Fedor, Rothwell, Vitor, Lin-Lin.
joe rogan
They threw some money, son.
They threw some money.
brendan schaub
They had one legit show in there.
joe rogan
Just like, damn, we're broke.
There's the fucking man right there at 155. No one kicks like that, dude.
True.
unidentified
Woo!
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what, don't sleep on Miles Juri at number 8 there.
joe rogan
No.
He's good.
brendan schaub
Habib, man, I'm telling you, the matchup no one wants is that Habib cat.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're right.
brendan schaub
No one wants to fight that guy.
joe rogan
He's a beast.
brendan schaub
Horrible beast.
unidentified
Just a bad match for everyone in there.
joe rogan
Wouldn't you love to see him versus Pettis?
brendan schaub
I would.
joe rogan
Holy shit, that would be crazy.
I would really like to see what happens in that.
unidentified
Me too.
joe rogan
You know, I get criticized for this all the time, but I'm going to say it again.
I think that a guy like a Ben Askren, which everybody says, oh, you know, I don't like watching him.
I don't like watching his style.
I want to see him fight everybody.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Everybody.
brendan schaub
Because he's going to talk it up.
unidentified
Not just that.
brendan schaub
Really, he's a young Chael Sonnen.
That's what he is.
joe rogan
Better.
Better wrestling.
brendan schaub
But I'm saying in MMA, that's what he's kind of going for now.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe.
Well, he's going for hyping things up.
But my point is, just forget about his talking.
If he never said a word, I want to see him fight everybody.
I want to see him fight Woodley.
I want to see him fight Rory.
I want to see him fight Nick Diaz.
I want to see what the fuck guys can do to him.
brendan schaub
And you're cool with him just taking him down and winning by decision.
joe rogan
If he can do it?
brendan schaub
Yeah, if he can do it, you're cool.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
brendan schaub
Me too.
We're on the same.
I'm just saying people are going to say that's not fighting though.
So were you a fan of John Fitch?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes.
brendan schaub
I'm with you because if you can't stop, it's impressive.
He's that good at it.
joe rogan
If you can't stop it, it's a tactic.
And if you don't know how to fight off your back, if you can't attack off your back, get back up to your feet or stop him from taking you down.
brendan schaub
It's super impressive because you know how hard it is to take someone down?
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
brendan schaub
For 15 minutes or 25 seconds.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And I get it, folks.
brendan schaub
It's not entertaining.
joe rogan
If you say you don't like that, I guess I'm a bigger fan than you.
I just like the real deal.
brendan schaub
Well, the difference is you know what's going on.
You have a history with mixed martial arts.
Those people...
Just want to be entertained.
unidentified
Maybe.
brendan schaub
Whether you get knocked out five times or you win, you know what I'm saying?
They don't care.
Whoever gets knocked out, that's all they want to see.
joe rogan
Well, I think there's some mixed martial arts fans.
I'm being just completely facetious.
I think there's some legit mixed martial arts fans that don't want to see that ever.
And they're legit fans.
brendan schaub
I agree.
joe rogan
They want to see some action.
brendan schaub
They're the exception, though.
joe rogan
But my point of view is that I'm a purist.
And as a purist, I need to see all the possibilities.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Like, we would have never known that leg kicks existed if someone didn't come along and start throwing them.
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
You know, you didn't know that a guy could choke guys out like Hoist Gracie did until he came along.
So when a guy like Askin comes around and he just takes everybody down...
You don't think we've seen that?
Not like that.
I don't think so.
brendan schaub
But you're not fighting top competition either.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Exactly.
brendan schaub
I know, so...
joe rogan
But look what he did to guys that are really good over there.
Look what he did.
brendan schaub
Over where?
Over where?
Bellator?
joe rogan
Yeah, but still.
brendan schaub
You're talking about C-level fighters?
joe rogan
I think B, but yes.
brendan schaub
Some B, for sure.
Some even A. Chandler, Eddie Alvarez, you're talking A-levels.
They have some A-levels, for sure.
I'm not clowning Bellator.
I'm saying, for the most part, though, Ben Askren isn't fighting top dogs.
So we don't know.
joe rogan
Exactly.
So we've got to see.
And the only one way to see is to let him do it.
brendan schaub
Jump in there with Johnny Hendricks?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, with anybody.
Throw him in there with anybody really good.
You wouldn't want to see him and, you know, name the beast.
Hector Lombard.
Jesus Luizus.
You're telling me you wouldn't want to see Ben Askren versus Hector Lombard?
Two former champs from Bellator.
brendan schaub
Hey, I'm with you.
I think if a guy's that dominant at one position, it's dope to see.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Like, everyone talks about the super fight with George St. Peter and Aniston Silva.
Hate to tell you, that's not going to be a fun fight.
George is going to lay on them if they ever did fight, which isn't happening, obviously.
For 25 minutes, I just think GSB's laying on top of him.
joe rogan
I don't know if that necessarily wouldn't happen.
I think that fight is a possibility.
If George ever does decide to come back, which who knows if he does, and Anderson is going to come back, Anderson's already throwing kicks.
Have you seen that?
There's a video of Anderson punching the bag and he throws a kick with that fucking leg.
Slaps into the bag.
brendan schaub
Ridiculous.
I think if that fight does happen, it's going to get marketed as biggest fight ever in UFC history, and everyone's going to be like, damn, Doug.
25-minute wrestling clinic.
That's what I think.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Be interesting.
Who knows?
But I want to see all styles, dude.
Me too, man.
For me, it's very important to know what's possible.
And there's only truly one way to know what's possible.
You've got to see those guys duke it out.
You've got to see the best guys duke it out.
And when a guy is a champion of another organization, like a Bellator champion, and he's been able to do that to everybody over there, and he starts talking a bunch of shit, bring him in!
brendan schaub
The way the UFC works, though, is they're not going to bring him in and have him fight Johnny Hendricks.
They're going to bring him in and be like, take number seven, Hector Lombard.
Have fun with that.
unidentified
Yes, good.
brendan schaub
Because we want him to see get destroyed.
joe rogan
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm with you.
Be dope.
joe rogan
I want to see.
brendan schaub
I'm with you.
joe rogan
I want to see if he does, and I want to see if he doesn't.
If he can take Lombard down and molest him for three rounds, holy shit, that would be wild to watch, man.
brendan schaub
Then we got problems on our hands.
joe rogan
It would be wild to watch, man, if he starts molesting everybody.
unidentified
How old's Ben?
brendan schaub
How old's Ben?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
I would say...
brendan schaub
Because he's resting for a while.
joe rogan
I'm going to take a guess.
I'm going to say 31. Let's see.
Ben Askren.
unidentified
Did you guys watch the pre-show?
Because it's exactly what we said was going to happen.
He just turned 30. 30. Pa-pow.
joe rogan
30 years old.
Plenty of time.
Plenty.
brendan schaub
Beltro wraps you up in that contract, though, so who knows if we'll see it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's up with that, huh?
brendan schaub
Because they know.
Well, no one's trying to be like, oh, I want to be Bellator champ for life.
joe rogan
Well, he's out, though.
He's out of that contract.
brendan schaub
Well, he's in, what is it, 1FC now, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, look at this.
They're doing a little demonstration.
brendan schaub
Oh, I see the socks, Kenny.
joe rogan
Sweet, sexy red socks.
brendan schaub
DC's just waiting for a shot, right?
He had surgery?
Is he having surgery on his knee?
joe rogan
He doesn't know if he's going to have it.
He might not have the surgery.
He might just try to rehab it.
His ACL is only partially torn and his MCL is torn so the MCL he can rest up and do therapy on it.
He's 36 years old and he's concerned with taking a full year off because that is what is going to happen.
brendan schaub
And then jumping into John Jones or Gusman?
joe rogan
Yeah, whoever wins.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
Or, you know, who knows?
By then, if he gets surgery and then the landscape changes in a year, then maybe he's fighting Glover, maybe he's fighting, you know, who knows who he's fighting.
brendan schaub
He needs to just wait for his...
joe rogan
Well, it depends on how good his knee is, though, because what if he waits for the title shot and his knee is bunk and it goes out in the first round and he could have just waited an extra six months after that, let somebody else fight, and then fought John with a 100% knee.
brendan schaub
No, I'm with you.
I think, no, as long as your next fight's for the title, once you're in line for the title, Don't do anything.
joe rogan
Don't do any surgery.
brendan schaub
Well, no, I'm saying don't take any other fights.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Like, don't get surgery, then they're going to be like, alright, well, we're going to toss you Glover.
Beat him, then we're going to give it to you.
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
What do you think about Verdum and Kane?
brendan schaub
I think it's a rough matchup for Kane.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
I really do, man.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
You know, I'm always pro-jiu-jitsu.
I just think Verdum, if you've ever seen that dude, obviously you have, he's huge, man.
He's like 6'6", you know what I'm saying?
He's a big dude.
Legit dangerous striking.
Oh, and Kane, he's going to throw those elbows and that Cordero teaches him all that stuff and the knees, and you want to take him down off that?
Well, his fight starts once his back hits the ground.
We're not talking about Junior Dos Santos on the ground, Chet Congo, Bigfoot.
No, son.
We're talking about the very best pure Brazilian jiu-jitsu artist in the heavyweight division on his back.
joe rogan
Without a doubt.
brendan schaub
Without a doubt.
And also, if I'm Verdun's corner...
And I'm saying, alright son, if he's doing what he did to Junior Dos Santos and he puts his forehead in your chest and he's dirty boxing against the cage, if that's going on for a long amount of time, you're jumping to half guard, mixing things up.
We're not going to stay there and get our ass whipped like Junior Dos Santos did.
You're going to half guard, you're going to look to sweep, you're going to look for submissions.
joe rogan
Very interesting.
brendan schaub
Crazy, right?
I don't know.
I'm all about it.
I believe in Verdum in this one.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if Verdum taps him in Mexico?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Oh, good lord.
And then they find out Verdum speaks better Spanish than Kane?
brendan schaub
You'd have the biggest heavyweight star since Brock Lesnar.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
Why do you think that?
Why do you think he would be so big?
brendan schaub
He has a personality.
He's bilingual.
We're just getting into Mexico.
He's a coach on Tough in Mexico.
Very well-spoken, good-looking dude.
Legit, legit skills.
Listen, Canes is number one in the world.
Number one badass in the world.
But personality-wise, it's just not there.
You know what I'm saying?
And Verdum has a personality to match it.
joe rogan
Well, you know, the other thing about Kane that you gotta deal with is that cardio.
That cardio is off the chain.
There's no one like him.
The motherfucker doesn't get tired.
Or if he does get tired, it is not like everybody else gets tired.
brendan schaub
No, he keeps going.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brendan schaub
But if you're for Doom, alright man, cool.
You're starting to get a little tired and getting your ass whipped the first two rounds, dirty boxing against the cage, we're taking this to the ground.
Because you're not going to sit there for five minutes while he just wears your ass out, and then we're in the fourth round, you're getting TKO'd.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
That's very interesting.
That's very interesting.
brendan schaub
That's weird.
joe rogan
I could see, you know, like a crazy transition going on on the ground where he's threatening, too.
You think what he did to Fedor.
I mean, Fedor was trying that brutal ground and pound that he uses on everybody.
brendan schaub
Wild, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, and Verdun was like, wrap it up, son!
Snap, snap, snap, snap, snap, snap, snap!
brendan schaub
And we're not talking about Fedor with the love handles like crazy hanging over the muffin top.
We're talking about Fedor where everyone was like, What?
joe rogan
See, that's where I kind of disagree with you, because I think that Fedor was already slightly on the slide.
brendan schaub
Slightly, but not Bigfoot style, where you're like, damn, someone tossed in the towel.
joe rogan
Well, he had knocked out Brett Rodgers in that fight before that.
Looked great in that fight, but he was tested in that fight a little bit with Rodgers.
Then he caught him with that right hand and dropped him.
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Huge right hand.
joe rogan
And the reality of Brett Rodgers' skill was that Fedor shouldn't have been tested by him.
brendan schaub
No, should have walked him.
joe rogan
He's just not the same guy.
I don't believe that Fedor is the same guy as the Fedor that fought Fujita, the Fedor that fought Krokop, the Fedor that fought Noguera.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
It's a different Fedor because I think he had been through all the wars, gotten divorced.
brendan schaub
Came to America.
joe rogan
A lot of shit.
Body changed.
His body stopped being big and muscular.
If you look at those old fights when he was doing strength training, doing weights and strength conditioning training, he was way bigger.
Way more physically imposing.
He always had a little bit of a gut, but he didn't give a fuck.
But he was bigger in the shoulders, bigger in the neck and the chest.
And then as he got older, as he fought Dan Henderson, he lost a lot of that bulk.
brendan schaub
That's true.
joe rogan
Probably just didn't want to do the weightlifting anymore.
brendan schaub
Still, even when he fought Verdum, he was still a scary dude, man.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
So when Verdum pulled that off...
The difference between Fedor's ground and pound and Kane's is Kane's very calculated and very smart.
Fedor believed in it so much, he was just wild.
So that triangle was like, snap, son.
joe rogan
Sort of, but I really think that Fedor was gone.
Because then you see the Fedor fight with Bigfoot.
Think about what Kane did to Bigfoot.
And then watch that Fedor fight with Bigfoot.
And be like, Fedor was never really in that fight.
It was a mess.
brendan schaub
It was horrible.
I thought they were going to toss in the towel.
joe rogan
Yeah, when Fedor was on his back and Bigfoot mounted him, I was like, oh, Jesus.
brendan schaub
I was like, please stop.
It looked like three different weight classes.
joe rogan
He's a building.
Bigfoot's a building, man.
He's an enormous, enormous guy with giant hands.
But speed.
brendan schaub
Speed's what kills him.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you can catch him.
That's how Cormier lit him up.
That's how Kane got him.
Everybody gets him with speed.
brendan schaub
You have to.
joe rogan
Close the distance and crack him.
brendan schaub
Yeah, you have to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh my goodness, that's gonna be fun.
Here's that fucking crazy combo.
Leslie Smith going off.
unidentified
I love you guys.
joey diaz
I gotta get out of here.
joe rogan
I gotta get out of here too.
joey diaz
Let's get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you once again for another very fun Fight Companion.
I hope you enjoyed it as much as we did.
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Did you get Big Brown on Twitter?
You should own that, too.
unidentified
Big Brown?
brendan schaub
I don't.
joe rogan
You should own that, man.
But Brendan Schaub...
On Twitter as well.
E-N-D-A-N-S-C-H-A-U-B. Alright, I don't know when the next one of these is, but if we're here, we'll do it.
We love you, and keep it together, you fucking freaks.
Jesus Christ.
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