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June 27, 2014 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #515 - Ari Shaffir
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ari shaffir
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brian redban
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joe rogan
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joe rogan
One.
unidentified
Oh boy.
joe rogan
Hey everybody, what the fuck's going on?
Hey, I've been away a while, but I missed you guys.
ari shaffir
How long have you been away?
joe rogan
Four days or something.
We took a week off.
I was out of town.
This episode of the podcast is brought to you by Squarespace.
There's probably about five or six websites out there dedicated to various parts of Ari's body that have been made during the construction of this very podcast.
It's that easy to make websites.
Squarespace allows you to make your own website with just simple web tools.
Drag and drop interface.
Very easy to do.
It's nothing complex.
It's nothing that the average dimwit that knows a little bit about computers like myself can do.
It's just they've figured it out.
They've figured out how to streamline it, narrow it down.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's pretty easy.
Just drag and drop.
Everything's drag and drop.
It says where to put stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And you can make websites that look really good.
ari shaffir
It used to be very difficult.
unidentified
Want to make a portfolio?
ari shaffir
It lets you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Want to make a different looking portfolio?
How about this?
joe rogan
Online store.
Set up an online store.
Super easy.
Beautiful designs for you to start with.
Use your own images.
ari shaffir
Your wife can sell her handbags.
joe rogan
Or she can sell pictures of your dick.
Imagine that.
You guys made a living selling pictures of your dick.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Your wife just takes pictures of your dick and sells them.
Just a little bit of mouth.
ari shaffir
His dick's not bad, but I'm an excellent photographer.
joe rogan
If it was real easy to buy shit online, if everything was like Amazon One Click, you know, and I landed here like five cents to see your dick, you know.
ari shaffir
You'd get some for people.
joe rogan
Yeah, people would.
People would say, I want to see Ari's dick.
There's a few people that would, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, think about how much, like, let's get weird, Ellen DeGeneres.
If Ellen DeGeneres took pictures of her butthole and you needed, it cost you five cents to see it.
How many fucking people would pay if it was really easy to pay?
ari shaffir
I would definitely pay that for her vagina.
joe rogan
I think it's going to come to that.
ari shaffir
If I didn't have to open my e-wallet.
joe rogan
Yeah, if it was super easy to do.
ari shaffir
Give her a change back from a dollar.
joe rogan
If it was just a word interface.
Like, do you want to pay five cents to see Ellen's?
Yeah, I'll see.
I'll do it.
ari shaffir
How much?
Five cents?
joe rogan
And the computer knows.
ari shaffir
And I'll have a bag too for ten.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And you're allowed to not even take like a breathalyzer test for anything under a certain amount of money.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
After a certain amount of money, it should be like the responsibility of the manufacturer of the cell phone to make some sort of a breathalyzer thing.
Because otherwise it's too fucking easy to just buy shit if you're really hammered and you buy something fucked up.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you would buy everything.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's rude.
You can't have that.
ari shaffir
People have been calling that for a long time, breathalyzer for your phone, for your computer.
joe rogan
It's a good move for text messages.
Anything that you send after 2 o'clock in the morning is most likely a mistake.
Most likely.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
When I get too high late at night, I buy so much things.
joe rogan
Of course.
ari shaffir
Everything's so beautiful.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
Beautiful and awesome.
And you can make a website about those things.
Start your own business, you fuck!
ari shaffir
Resell your shitty purchases.
joe rogan
Go to squarespace.com.
You can make a logo creator.
You can create a sleek and simple logo.
brian redban
I just made one for Ari.
ari shaffir
While we were doing that?
joe rogan
Big juicy hog.
Ari Shafir, big juicy hog.
And it's a picture of a chicken.
It makes zero sense.
And it's perfect.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And for a free trial and 10% off your first purchase, go to squarespace.com and enter in the code word JOE. Yeah, they're all different.
It's a t-shirt.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's it.
joe rogan
What is it the t-shirt's name?
brian redban
Big Juicy Hog.
joe rogan
Big Juicy Hog.
Is it H-A-W-G? Yeah, of course.
That's the way to say it.
It sounds more delicious that way.
ari shaffir
The Brewster on top of it.
joe rogan
It sounds more slurpy.
These dudes online have been getting mad at all these gay innuendos and jokes.
unidentified
All this fucking homophobic shit and all this fucking...
joe rogan
Listen, I like dick jokes.
I think they're funny.
If you get weirded out, that's your own shit, son.
Alright?
Don't panic.
Dick jokes are funny.
Go to squarespace.com, make your own dick joke website, use the code word Joe.
ari shaffir
One cool thing about it, code word Joe, is that you can actually build the site and then not pay for it yet, and then decide, like, alright, I'm going to get this thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is a good word.
That is a good idea, rather.
They're so confident in the ability to make a website so easily that they let you try it out, register and try it out without entering your credit card information.
So at the end of that, if you're like, your website's whack, son!
You can just bail.
You can just bail.
And you'll have learned about that service.
Anyway, go to squarespace.com, use the code word Joe, and save 10% off.
And more importantly to me, I met the Squarespace people.
And they're very nice.
They're cool.
ari shaffir
What did you meet in New York?
joe rogan
I met them in New York.
Very nice guys.
ari shaffir
I went over to their offices.
joe rogan
Super friendly.
Everybody, they came to the show, they're really friendly and nice and fun.
ari shaffir
They're working at an internet company, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Those are the cool people.
joe rogan
Those are the cool people.
That's why I have faith in the future.
unidentified
People always say, oh, you're so faithful, you're always looking at the bright side of things, man.
joe rogan
We're going down the toilet.
I have faith in the future because I think that technology and the technology creators are the ones that are dictating what's taking place.
Everyone is scrambling to deal with the technology and the technology innovators.
unidentified
Yeah.
Before.
ari shaffir
Before.
joe rogan
Well, instead of actual products, solid items, instead of solid items and things that you weigh and put on a scale, instead you're dealing with things like a Google.
I mean, there's a solid item.
Somewhere, you know, there's hard drives that keep all the information on, and obviously there's offices, but the reality is that Google's not a real product that you can pick up and have in your hand.
You can have a Google phone, but what the fuck is Google?
Well, the number one thing in that company is nothing.
It's an air.
It's an idea.
So this idea has picked up all these hard drives and set up all these web browsers and set up all these different Google Chrome and Google operating system.
ari shaffir
Based on nothing.
joe rogan
But what is it really?
It's just ideas.
An idea is what Google is.
And they're a really ethical and responsible company, which is fascinating.
Because one of the most powerful, one of the most, is also very progressive.
They're super progressive.
I have a friend who works at Google, and there's a guy who works in the office who's a guy outside the office, but in the office he likes to be referred to as a woman, and he dresses up as a woman.
So he goes to the office, he dresses up like a man.
ari shaffir
Dresses up like a woman?
joe rogan
He's a man until he gets to the office.
Then he goes to the office.
ari shaffir
Just at work?
joe rogan
Yep.
Yep.
ari shaffir
Like Clinger?
joe rogan
Nope.
He's not trying to get a thing from the government.
It's just what he does.
And Google's like, okay.
As long as you're nice.
As long as you do your work.
ari shaffir
Yeah, what do we care?
joe rogan
What do we care?
That's perfect!
See, that didn't exist.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
In older...
unidentified
Why does he wear a regular boy suit to work?
joe rogan
That's a very good question, but a better question is, why can you identify someone's sex by the clothing they wear?
That seems like the most ridiculous thing ever.
ari shaffir
We push people into certain ways of being.
I used to, when I was religious and worked at some law firm for the summer, and then the next year I lost my religion in that summer, and then I worked there again.
joe rogan
Like a goddamn REM song.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and I didn't want to explain to them, so I would just take my yarmulke off as soon as I left work.
I would put it on to work, and then take it off as soon as I left.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
ari shaffir
I have faith.
joe rogan
I have faith because of that.
Because these smart motherfuckers are the ones that are the most innovative, the ones that are the most on the cutting edge about what's changing the world.
Like Google searches are changing the goddamn world, right?
ari shaffir
Panned in China.
Can't get on Google.
joe rogan
Google's a crazy thing.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
The ability to just get all the questions.
I mean, not always write a lot of contrary information, but just the sheer bulk of the information.
And then sources.
Oh, this is a Stanford University study.
And you go, okay, you know.
ari shaffir
Right.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You start reading things like, oh, this guy's a professor of astronomy from Cambridge.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, your ability to get knowledge.
joe rogan
Yeah, you go, okay, well, this guy's super legit.
He's a professor of astronomy at Cambridge.
Right.
It's like, we didn't have that.
ari shaffir
All you had was a microfiche for newspapers.
joe rogan
And all these dudes that are involved in these companies.
In my opinion, it seems to be they're moving.
I mean, there's still corporations.
There's always going to be weirdness when money is involved.
But it seems like the ethic of the internet, the ethic of these electronic corporations is one of social responsibility.
One that didn't really exist before.
ari shaffir
I wonder.
I'm trying to think if there's any bad of those companies.
joe rogan
Not that I can think of.
Like Tesla, they're supposed to be really cool.
Elon Musk has got a reputation of being this really fascinating, innovative guy.
ari shaffir
Starbucks is cool.
joe rogan
Starbucks is cool as fuck.
I love having good coffee on the corner.
ari shaffir
They pay for people's health insurance.
They offer to put you through Phoenix Online College.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Check out their new sodas.
Yeah, 24, 25. We'll pay for it if you want.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
I think that shit is possible, man.
I think people can build an ethical company, you know?
I really do.
I just think that for so long, people are so goddamn ruthless.
So people say, oh, you know, you're always fucking so optimistic.
ari shaffir
Ben and Jerry, they've been doing it for years.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Ben and Jerry have been doing it, like, way back before it was interesting.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Like, we're just going to do it because it's the right thing.
joe rogan
Well, they're from Vermont, dude.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Vermont is...
Have you ever been up there?
Burlington, Vermont?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah, once.
My parents tried to send me to a special camp there.
joe rogan
It's a fucking beautiful, beautiful town.
God, Vermont is awesome.
ari shaffir
They have higher ground.
I want to go to that higher ground place.
joe rogan
What's higher ground?
ari shaffir
Like a small rock theater.
unidentified
Ooh.
ari shaffir
That part is cool.
joe rogan
Maybe I'll work that.
Because I definitely worked something in Burlington.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
A long time ago.
Yeah, I guess we're doing a podcast.
Let's just fucking go with it.
I did something in Burlington.
I mean, clearly, we're done with commercials.
brian redban
We haven't done Nature's Box yet.
joe rogan
Yeah, Nature Box.
Go fuck yourself.
Give me some yummy treats.
brian redban
Do you really want to stop?
Because I was going to say, I actually made a Squarespace store.
I'm working on one right now.
And it was so fucking easy.
You just put a picture in of what you want to sell.
Put how many there is, like quantity there is.
You sign up for this thing that's like PayPal.
And then if somebody buys it from you...
In two days, it automatically goes to your bank account, the money, and it sends you like a little shipping thing, where to ship it to.
Wow.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
brian redban
I was so blown away how easy a store was because I knew blog kind of websites and stuff.
I knew it couldn't be that hard because I used WordPress.
unidentified
Right.
brian redban
But this store thing, I was so amazed at how easy it was, how much control you had.
And Squarespace, you can make a store in less than five minutes.
It is really that crazy.
joe rogan
That's so weird.
Isn't that weird?
Is it like a PayPal store?
Did you use PayPal?
brian redban
It uses another company that's just like PayPal.
joe rogan
And PayPal, you could just use a credit card, too.
You don't have to have a PayPal.
Right.
So if someone has PayPal, that's crazy.
brian redban
It's just pretty much a credit card processor that charges, I think, like, $0.35 per transaction.
And that's actually cheaper than what PayPal does, because I believe PayPal actually uses a percent of how much money.
So if you have $100, PayPal takes like $11.
It's like 11%.
Where this actual company, whatever, I forget, it's like Spark or something, actually only just charges you 35 cents because all it is is a credit card transaction fee.
joe rogan
Right.
So we're just moving numbers around in the ether.
ari shaffir
So we don't care how big your transaction is.
It's the same process for them.
joe rogan
What a scam.
To make money by moving numbers on computers.
ari shaffir
Fucking Ticketmaster always does that garbage.
joe rogan
Dude, Ticketmaster hits car.
ari shaffir
Processing fee.
Why is it on...
We bought four tickets all at once.
Why the four processing fees?
What's a processing fee?
The computer's doing it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
What are you talking about?
I didn't call the hotline.
joe rogan
Well, that's what the big argument with that band in Seattle was about.
ari shaffir
Pearl Jam.
joe rogan
Pearl Jam.
Remember Pearl Jam?
They rallied against Ticketmaster.
ari shaffir
And I talked to someone over there and they were like, no, it's the venues that they want their percentage.
They take it too.
It's like, well, then why don't you put it as a venue cost so we know who to blame?
joe rogan
Look at that face you're making.
ari shaffir
It's ridiculous.
I hate when I see that.
I've seen your shows and people are like, your tickets were $35.
I paid $66.
And you're like, what?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, it's weird, but that's how it is.
You know, I would love to rally against shit like that, but I don't have that kind of time, so I just gotta keep pressing forward.
You know, I think Louis for a while was doing some weird shit where he's making people pay in cash, and they had to buy it the day of the show, and they had to pay in cash.
ari shaffir
Sure.
joe rogan
He did that at the Comedy Store.
I know that.
The idea was to stop scalpers, too, because there's always a scalping problem.
That always happens if you're going to sell out of place.
Like a Ticketmaster, someone who buys it from Ticketmaster, some company.
ari shaffir
We realized this was a long time ago.
Robin Williams played, and it was sold out.
I was like, why didn't we get...
People were offering to pay $150, $200 for tickets.
I'm like, what?
We had access to them.
joe rogan
We never scalped at the store.
Somebody must have, right?
Somebody must have gotten people.
Chewy had to scalp a little bit.
ari shaffir
I did it this year.
joe rogan
Did you just get some scalping in?
ari shaffir
No, I bought Louie tickets for you, for someone else, and then you couldn't go, the other person couldn't go.
joe rogan
So you scalped them?
ari shaffir
I told the doorman, I was like, hey, you can sell them.
Get whatever you want.
Give me the 40 back and then take the rest.
joe rogan
Ooh.
ari shaffir
He doubled it.
unidentified
Ooh.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
People can't get in, like, what do you want?
What do you want?
Let's do this.
joe rogan
Especially in LA, right?
In LA, people are like, come on, this restaurant's gotta have two seats somewhere.
ari shaffir
I'm important.
joe rogan
Stop pulling out that paper, son!
Pulling out that sweet paper!
Alright, let's keep going with the commercial.
Nature Box.
Nature Box, don't go fuck yourself.
When I said that before, I was treating you like a buddy.
brian redban
I just got my first Nature Box today, man.
I was really, really happy.
joe rogan
They just sent me two packages of Sriracha cashews.
ari shaffir
Sriracha cashews?
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
I forgot to bring them in, man.
I went home and I forgot to bring them in.
They're so good.
You would die.
You would want them delivered to your house every day.
They're the best snack I've ever had.
These Sriracha cashews, nope, that's not true.
I got some elk jerky from Amazon.com.
I know you can buy some elk jerky.
That's pretty goddamn good, too.
But shiraj cashews, as far as being an option where nothing had to die that's an animal or a mammal...
ari shaffir
That's way better for you than chips.
You eat nuts.
joe rogan
Than elk jerky?
ari shaffir
No, than chips.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Nuts are way better.
ari shaffir
Even if they're salted and roasted and stuff, still, it's got to be more easy to process, right?
joe rogan
Exactly.
Well, what's more easy to process about everything that NatureBox has is that they have no trans fats.
Trans fats, your body has a process issue with those.
High fructose corn syrup.
ari shaffir
That's why so many Holocaust survivors are living such a long life.
joe rogan
Because no high fructose corn syrup?
ari shaffir
No trans fats for a while.
joe rogan
That's what it is?
ari shaffir
Yeah, now they're living to a hundred and something.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
Imagine if that's true.
ari shaffir
Can't be that.
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
Imagine if it was killing people that quickly.
brian redban
Do rabbis really bless those foods, the Jew food?
joe rogan
What do you mean bless them?
It's called kosher.
Don't say Jew food.
ari shaffir
No, they look over it and make sure people like you aren't doing anything to it.
joe rogan
According to Eliza Schlesinger, you're not supposed to say Jew.
You're supposed to say Jewish.
And if you say someone's a Jew, then it's like an insult.
brian redban
Really?
ari shaffir
No, no.
I've heard that before.
It's the first time I've actually heard a girl say that.
joe rogan
According to Eliza Schlesinger, people would get upset if you called someone a Jew.
brian redban
It's all tone.
joe rogan
Zero high fructose corn syrup too.
Nothing artificial.
Free shipping anywhere in the U.S. If you have an office vending machine and the best thing that you can eat in there is peanuts.
You know those fucking machines?
Where it's just candy bar, chips, peanuts.
I guess peanuts.
Put some NatureBox in your desk.
ari shaffir
I heard the owners of NatureBox are Jews.
unidentified
What?!
joe rogan
Ari's allowed to say that.
You know why?
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Jew privilege.
brian redban
Well, somebody told me they blessed all the animals.
And I was like, that's kind of cool if there's just like this old Jewish guy that came over there and just like, all right, guys.
ari shaffir
They look over the killing and they make sure it's all killed right.
joe rogan
In theory, I think that kosher was a great idea at first.
They set some ground rules like don't eat pigs.
They're dirty fuckers.
People were probably getting sick like crazy.
They didn't know how to cook animals.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you cook a pig the same way you cook a deer, you're going to have real problems.
Pigs are omnivores.
They eat a lot of animals, and so they get trichinosis.
ari shaffir
You've got to cook that out of them?
joe rogan
You've got to cook the shit out of it.
You're going to eat that parasite, too.
When you eat a pig...
ari shaffir
They didn't know that back then?
People got sick?
joe rogan
No, they didn't know that.
ari shaffir
How do they know where to get fucking...
Try mushrooms and get sap from a tree, but they didn't know, why do we keep getting sick every time we eat this pig?
joe rogan
Well, they just thought the pig was disgusting.
They thought if you eat pig, you're going to get sick and you're going to die.
It makes sense, because that is true.
I mean, back then, you had a real issue.
And most pigs, whether they were wild or domestic, apparently they're the exact same thing.
They're the same animal.
They just look different.
But they can fuck with each other.
They can interbreed.
ari shaffir
That was a rule we weren't allowed to accept when they said, why is stuff not kosher?
Because it's the tapeworm stuff.
The answer was always, because God said.
joe rogan
That's a good answer.
ari shaffir
You're not supposed to know why.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't need to know, bitch.
God said.
God said, stay away from the fucking pigs.
But, you know, now that we know, it's silly.
Because bacon is awesome, and nobody dies from bacon.
ari shaffir
I had some bacon today.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so good.
I mean, you could buy from, you could die from, like...
ari shaffir
Hey, NatureBox, how about some bacon-flavored stuff?
joe rogan
You can't do that.
brian redban
There's no beef jerky in here.
joe rogan
They don't have beef jerky?
No, but I'll tell you what they do have.
ari shaffir
Bacon jerky's gluten-free.
joe rogan
They have those South Pacific plantains.
Goddamn, those are good.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
And that Big Island pineapple.
Oh, yummy, yum, yum, yum.
But I keep going to those Sriracha cashews.
ari shaffir
It's funny how Nature's Box doesn't have anything bacon-related, now that I think about it.
joe rogan
They need some bacon to ward off the juice.
unidentified
Or some pickles.
brian redban
Why don't they have pickles?
ari shaffir
Pickles would be a good one.
joe rogan
Well, pickles are tricky, man.
Grillo's Pickles, by the way, has the greatest pickles in the history of the free world.
They don't need to make pickles when Grillo's Pickles is out.
ari shaffir
What show do they show up at?
They were just giving them out.
joe rogan
That was our show in Boston.
ari shaffir
In Boston.
joe rogan
Yeah, the dude from Grillo's Pickles.
Cool as fuck.
Grillo's Pickles.
I am not bullshitting you.
The best pickles I've ever had in my life.
People are like, what's the big deal with pickles?
Bitch, listen to me.
Just buy yourself one container of those hot, spicy...
brian redban
Spicy garlic.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh my god, they're so fucking good.
That Big Island pineapple is oh so delicious.
Love that snack.
Nothing.
Simple, dried pineapple.
So good.
brian redban
And what's cool about Nature's Box is that, you know, you get this once a month, and you could add any other...
A snack for only $3 extra.
So you can just load up your box.
Like, I loaded up mine with like 12 different...
joe rogan
Right, but don't go to naturesbox.com.
unidentified
Naturebox.
brian redban
Naturebox.
joe rogan
Because if you go to Nature's Box, it's a chick named Nature.
ari shaffir
And that box is disgusting.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all about her butt problem.
She's got one of those...
ari shaffir
How long are you doing ads on each of these people?
joe rogan
This is done.
ari shaffir
You ever save them for like...
joe rogan
Well, you know what, man?
This is not really an ad.
I mean, this is sort of a podcast ad.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Anyway, naturebox.com.
Slash Rogan.
Suck it!
That's enough.
We don't need to do Onnit today.
We'll do it later.
Onnit.com.
Use the code word Rogan.
Shazam!
Boom!
I move like a ghost.
unidentified
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day.
Joe Rogan podcast by night.
All day.
joe rogan
Damn, we said a lot of cool shit before this podcast ever started.
ari shaffir
We have a Nick Diaz calling into our Punch Drunk sports podcast.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
ari shaffir
He's going to call in?
joe rogan
Allegedly, allegedly.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he calls in all the time.
joe rogan
So, did you do Punch Drunk when you were on the road, when you were in China?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I loved doing it from other places.
I did it from the Slopes and Veil ones.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
Did you have a guest, or did you do it by yourself?
ari shaffir
Punch Drunk?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Like, you called in?
ari shaffir
Yeah, Skyped in.
joe rogan
Okay, so you did it from, like, remote locations?
Yeah.
ari shaffir
From the slopes in Vail.
I pulled over into some woods until my phone went off because it was too cold.
unidentified
That's hilarious!
ari shaffir
It's always been like, where are you?
I did it from the shower once.
We came back from break and I was just like, and Tebow's like, are you fucking showering?
joe rogan
What is the audio like when you're Skyping into a podcast like that?
ari shaffir
Pretty good as long as I'm on Wi-Fi.
joe rogan
So you could, but have you ever tried to do it on 4G? Yeah, I did a walk around the city a lot.
What is it?
4G LTE? Yeah.
And it works?
ari shaffir
Yeah, but sometimes it goes like, especially in New York, it comes in and out.
joe rogan
That seems like that would be a really cool way to do a podcast.
Walking around.
ari shaffir
Yeah, TBL, TBL, TBL, TBL. Sounds like this, kind of.
brian redban
It's very room echo-y, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
The good part of what you could do, though, is you could record it separately on an MP3 player.
And then send them the audio later and they could cut it in so it sounds fine.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
So have two recordings going simultaneously and they would have to sync them up?
unidentified
Right.
brian redban
The live one would be the only one that kind of stops.
joe rogan
That seems like a project that we would give to you and it would take at least a year.
unidentified
You would find all sorts of reasons why that's not going to happen.
joe rogan
But I'm so happy you're video editing again.
That video of us shooting hard drives.
We decided to shoot hard drives.
Yeah, my old hard drives.
ari shaffir
That's funny.
joe rogan
More for fun than anything.
But I always wanted to know what happens when a bullet hits a hard drive.
So I set up some hard drives and loaded up my hunting rifle.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a serious rifle.
It's a 7mm Remington Ultramag.
ari shaffir
Did it just go through it?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
It went through it sideways too.
It's so accurate you could hit it width wise.
So you're shooting at something that's 100 yards away and you have about an inch Wow.
Maybe a little more, inch and a half or something like that.
ari shaffir
You can get it through that way.
joe rogan
You can see this is us shooting at the hard drive.
As long as you stay put.
It's all just about staying put and not freaking out.
ari shaffir
Freaking out?
joe rogan
Yeah, when you pull the trigger, don't flinch.
It's really hard not to flinch.
Oh, really?
Yeah, you've got a rifle, man.
That's a fucking rifle.
ari shaffir
Breathe out.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, that thing, that has a muzzle brake on it, which is this thing around the tip of the rifle barrel that distributes the energy better.
Makes a louder noise though.
So it doesn't, it's a hundred yards.
So it doesn't, it doesn't kick as much, which is really important because the kick is what scares the shit out of you.
ari shaffir
That's what you're scared of so you clinch up before it happens.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Tense up.
joe rogan
How do we get to talking about this?
Hard drive destruction.
We were on a secretous route.
Oh, your video.
ari shaffir
I'm glad you're doing videos again.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
It's so cool to see you doing videos again.
Somebody put up a thread of some of your old videos.
Dude, you're so talented at that.
It's like you have such a gift for video editing.
brian redban
I quickly learned, though, how to, how, using, like, editing HD nowadays, how much fucking computer you need, though, to make it even worth not killing yourself trying to do.
joe rogan
Yeah, as far as rendering, right?
brian redban
Well, I don't just edit videos like that.
The videos I do, there's, like, at least that It had like at least 12 layers of audio going on at the same time.
joe rogan
Is there some sort of super dope setup that we can get that would convince you to start making videos again?
brian redban
Well, I mean, this one was fun to do, but, you know, I don't know.
joe rogan
Dude, you could make the best.
You were making amazing videos a long time ago.
ari shaffir
That super black video we did.
That submission video for some show on comment section that will never happen.
Yeah, it has like a million views.
brian redban
Oh, really?
ari shaffir
It has a lot.
I looked at it the other day, and I was like...
Wow, I've got that many?
joe rogan
No, you've got some real talent, dude.
You've got real talent as far as how you choose scenes and edit things and music and effects into them.
You're really good.
It's like you don't just take a video and cut it together and edit it.
ari shaffir
You add something to it.
joe rogan
You add a lot to it.
You made some awesome videos when we were working together doing those.
ari shaffir
Those are really good.
David Taylor says that.
He's like, you're the first guy to figure out length on the internet.
With that Mencia clip.
They were like, how do you make a 10 minute long clip that people will actually watch?
There's no way.
It hasn't been done yet.
joe rogan
Make it like a show.
Make it like a little show.
You have a timeline going on.
It goes back in time and forward in time.
brian redban
Nowadays it is getting easier, the actual programs.
The new Final Cut Pro is cool because it can sync up...
Automatically where you used to have to just try to line up two sounds and stuff like that.
ari shaffir
It'll just go to sync?
Yeah, go to sync.
Wow.
Yeah, of course that should be a thing.
joe rogan
Let's get some bad mamma jamma computers and do this, man.
What are you doing?
brian redban
I mean, it would be fun to see how much unstressful it is.
joe rogan
Dude, we'll get you some Adderall.
We'll get you whatever you need.
Allegedly, this is a comedy show.
Do not take us to a cage.
ari shaffir
Adderall that motherfucker up.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was talking to a dude today who recently quit Adderall.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, we were having a conversation.
ari shaffir
Wow, he ran out?
joe rogan
No, he was cool.
He ran out.
Very cool guy.
No, I think he felt like...
I think a lot of people that do the Adderall feel like there's a crash at the end of the day.
ari shaffir
Oh, you've got to have a It's either the fast acting ones or the time release ones.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
So there's no crash that way.
joe rogan
Is that like they slowly weed you off of it?
ari shaffir
Yeah, they come down so it's not like boom and drop off the cliff.
joe rogan
But he was loving the Adderall when he was on.
ari shaffir
Tell I gotta get back going.
joe rogan
He was telling me how productive.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, you get shit done.
ari shaffir
Was he self-medicating that one?
joe rogan
I do not believe so, but I didn't ask.
I believe he was talking about a doctor.
ari shaffir
It works so much differently.
When you need it or when you don't.
It does the opposite thing to you.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you need it, allegedly.
I don't understand ADD, because I have it, hardcore.
I don't understand it.
But I think if you have it and then you take it, it calms you.
It centers you.
Is that true, though?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
That's what I heard.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
joe rogan
It's so hard to tell what the fuck is going on.
It's like, you ever...
See someone drink, and then they just lose their marbles.
They just, for whatever reason, they just lose their marbles.
ari shaffir
They're drunks.
joe rogan
Their brain just shuts off.
They're not there anymore.
They make terrible decisions.
You're like, how many fucking drinks have you had?
He's only had like three drinks.
And they just go away.
They just go away.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I can't get that.
You don't get that.
I don't get that.
ari shaffir
No, I just barf.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
I don't pass out.
joe rogan
But I mean, do you get that guy?
ari shaffir
Oh, understand it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you try to get it?
Because obviously something's happening to him.
I think there's a very direct, there's a distinctly different physiological effect of alcohol on his body as opposed to your body.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You and I have gotten drunk a bunch of times together.
You just are, you should fear drunk.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, there's nothing crazy at all.
You're you.
You're exactly the same guy, but you'll laugh a little bit more.
unidentified
Right, right.
joe rogan
You'll be a little bit more ridiculous, like all of us when we're drunk.
ari shaffir
You get looser.
joe rogan
But there are certain folks that they go away.
And then this other guy's there.
I love that.
ari shaffir
It's one of my favorite things to say.
They're not making memories right now.
This is all just unrecorded.
joe rogan
That's what's really fucked up.
It's like they're in a dream.
There's people that have a real issue like that.
ari shaffir
That was always the sign of alcoholism.
If you black out, that means you're an alcoholic.
People are like, what do you mean?
I blacked out like a hundred times.
unidentified
Like, yeah, you're an alcoholic.
brian redban
But there is something to say.
I've been freaking myself out.
I like to drink, but it seems like every night I come home like, I don't remember the last hour at all.
But then I'm thinking, wait, I only had three drinks last night.
I think there's also a lot to do with how much you smoke weed with alcohol.
ari shaffir
Together, make them both jump off.
brian redban
Yeah, because I... No, no, no.
ari shaffir
Dude, it's like that's in both...
Like, jump-started.
brian redban
Like, right now, today, I've only smoked weed, and I really don't remember what I did last...
Like, two hours ago.
I'm just trying to remember...
joe rogan
Well, you didn't get much sleep last night either, right?
brian redban
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what it is for me.
brian redban
It happens a lot, though, where, like, I come home, and I'm like, well, I don't remember much last night, but...
I smoked like 14 joints.
joe rogan
Smoking 14 joints is probably a bad idea, but what's a good idea for you is definitely to take a break off the boozing.
brian redban
Oh yeah, that's this week.
joe rogan
Because you're healthy.
I mean look, what you did with your life as far as like have fun over the last few years, go party, you know, just be at the comedy clubs all the time.
Great, fun thing that so few people get to do.
There's nothing wrong with doing it.
It's like, do you do it and manage how much damage you do to yourself in the process?
At a certain point in time, I just feel that most folks can't keep drinking.
Most folks, they get to a certain point in time.
There's always stories about some guy who's 100 years old, smoked cigarettes, but that guy, the reason why you hear those stories is that's unusual as fuck.
Most people, when they get to be 50, 60, when they're smokers, they start having real problems.
Extreme problems.
ari shaffir
Strokes, cancer.
He drank every day until he died.
I'm like, how often did you hang out with your grandfather?
unidentified
He's over there jerking off and eating tobacco.
joe rogan
I don't know how much of it is true.
I know there's always a guy that lives to be 100 and a guy that smokes all the time and he's fine until the day he died.
ari shaffir
Yeah, whatever.
joe rogan
I know people that I've seen their body deteriorate.
I've seen their face start to shrivel in.
ari shaffir
From cigarettes?
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know that weird thing you do when a guy's a chain smoker and you start to see their face starts to shrivel in?
ari shaffir
It's hardened.
joe rogan
It's like it's pulling into itself.
brian redban
Also the sun of the other.
joe rogan
They look gray.
ari shaffir
They gotta go outside all the time.
brian redban
That leather face.
That beach face.
joe rogan
Because you gotta be outside smoking.
But just, I know several people have died because of cigarettes.
Several.
The first was a guy that I knew, well, I guess I don't have any relatives that died from it, but I knew a guy who was at the pool hall he used to hang out with.
He died slow, man.
ari shaffir
Cancer?
joe rogan
Yeah, he died slow.
ari shaffir
That James died quick.
joe rogan
I knew three guys there.
I knew three guys there that died from cigarettes, that smoked cigarettes every day.
He changed smoke, then they got cancer and died.
brian redban
Does anyone in your family smoke?
joe rogan
No, not anymore.
But my sister smoked for a little while.
My mom smoked for a little while.
brian redban
Well, then you're probably good to go.
You could probably smoke for a good 20 years if you wanted to.
joe rogan
I'm not into it.
Thanks, though.
ari shaffir
No, just 20 years.
Just try it.
It's probably okay.
brian redban
Probably like, I mean, Ari, you have to admit, you used to enjoy smoking.
ari shaffir
Oh, I loved it.
Are you kidding me?
In China, I was thinking, like, I got the urge back.
joe rogan
Ooh, because everybody smokes over there, right?
ari shaffir
Everybody smokes.
Maybe it's the pollution, so I was already feeling it a little too.
joe rogan
Did you get close?
Just saying, fuck it?
ari shaffir
No, I was looking at people with their cigarettes going...
joe rogan
Do you think that you could smoke for like a week and then not get hooked again?
No.
ari shaffir
I think two cigarettes I'm fully hooked.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
ari shaffir
One is still, I could still be like, that was disgusting.
But you know what?
It might be disgusting, but then it starts going away through your body.
And then the next day, you'll be like, yeah, I need one.
joe rogan
I really wish I understood addiction.
I had a guy on here, Dr. Carl Hart, who explained addictions to me.
When you're talking to a guy who's super smart and knows a lot about the human body and the mechanisms of addiction, and he's explaining to me, I'm hearing the words he's saying, and I get what he's trying to explain to me, but I totally don't understand the mechanisms of how these addictions work.
I don't understand it.
But the way he was saying it was that it's more mental than anything.
It's more people just, it's in their mind.
The actual physical addiction, he said, is not that big of a deal.
ari shaffir
Yeah, like the people who eat their couches and stuff.
People who eat their couches?
Yeah, you know those weird addictions.
joe rogan
People who eat their couches?
ari shaffir
Eat the couch cushion out a little bit at a time.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus, I haven't seen that.
I saw a chick who was eating tape.
ari shaffir
Yeah, stuff like that.
joe rogan
She was addicted to eating tape.
She would pull the plastic tape, break it off, put it in her mouth and start chewing it.
ari shaffir
But there's nothing chemical to that.
That's just mental.
joe rogan
That's crazy person.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's just 100% crazy person.
But that's also an addiction.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what's weird about being a person.
I'm addicted to it.
Yeah, there's like addictions that are just compulsive.
They're a habit.
For whatever reason, you just feel the need to do it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And a cigarette apparently is one of those.
ari shaffir
Food's a big one.
joe rogan
Food's a big one.
For some folks, it's the drive-thru.
That rush that you get when you're not supposed to go to that drive-thru, but you, fuck it, let's do this, and it's like you get an addiction to that feeling.
ari shaffir
It's like they're skydiving.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
They're stopping at Arby's.
joe rogan
Well, dude, I've had that feeling.
You've had that feeling too, especially when you're drunk.
ari shaffir
Right?
It does feel good to know you're going to get food.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're going to get some delicious, delicious...
Remember when we used to walk to Carney's right down the street from the store?
That's some of the worst shit you could ever eat in your life.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it was so good.
joe rogan
So good.
ari shaffir
I had it like last year again.
joe rogan
Yeah, you should never eat it.
Every time I eat it, I was like, what the fuck did I just do to my body?
ari shaffir
There's no food pyramid where that's on.
Yeah, you get chili fries on top of a chili dog.
joe rogan
That's totally an addiction.
That place is an addictive place.
Those kind of places are addictive and great.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm glad they exist.
I would go there tomorrow.
I would go there tomorrow.
But there's a certain addiction to that.
This is very peripheral because you're not doing it all day, every day like you can with cigarettes.
So I would imagine just the ritual aspect of the tradition, of the habit, would be way bigger because you're doing it all day.
ari shaffir
Something to do with your hands, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're doing this all day?
ari shaffir
Dice had to chew on cigarettes for years.
joe rogan
Oh!
unidentified
Remember that?
joe rogan
Chewing on cigarettes!
unidentified
Oh!
ari shaffir
Chewing for the same six minutes it would have taken to smoke it, and then throws it out and starts a new one.
joe rogan
That's smart of him, but then he started smoking again.
ari shaffir
Then he started smoking again.
But then one time I saw him on stage, he threw one out and started a new one, and he goes, What are you doing, Dice?
What are you doing?
Toothpicks are $3.99 for $100!
joe rogan
That's so nice that he would worry about how much money he's spending.
I'm giving these jerk-offs!
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's got to get a special brand cigarette that he wasn't even smoking for like five years.
brian redban
There is something very calming about it, though.
Like, when you're stressed or if you...
ari shaffir
Do you want a cinnamon stick?
Oh, yeah, no, no.
A cigarette?
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
There's a real effect.
But here's what's crazy.
That real effect is just that you're addicted to cigarettes.
brian redban
No, nicotine's calming also.
joe rogan
But it's not, though.
It's a stimulant.
Nicotine is more of a stimulant, I'm pretty sure.
I don't think it has a calming effect.
ari shaffir
It's also, it calms you because you're like, oh, now I don't need a cigarette anymore.
joe rogan
Well, let's Google that because we live in 2014 and I might be totally wrong.
But the way it was explained to me and the way Dr. Hart describes it is that what's going on is you have this buildup and this need to get it in your body.
Then when you get it in your body, you calm yourself.
So that when you're in a situation where you're very stressed out, you absolutely have extraneous external stress, but you also have the stress of the fact that you need a cigarette.
ari shaffir
Maybe it also seems like the same feeling as when you get a cigarette.
So when you do actually get stressed, it's like, oh, this reminds me of the time.
I should have cigarettes.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
And again, I think what we talked about earlier, that the daily ritual aspect of a cigarette must be incredibly strong because you do it so often, especially if you have a drink.
How many people tell you they only smoke when they drink?
ari shaffir
Yeah, a lot of people.
joe rogan
Right?
What is that?
You know you're doing something bad.
It's the same thing as eating their carnies.
You know you're doing something bad and you're like, fuck it.
It's a ritual.
When I get drunk, I like to do that.
brian redban
It's like the flavor of coffee and cigarettes together is like the best two ingredients that make the best pie ever.
joe rogan
Yeah, nicotine is a stimulant.
ari shaffir
It was good.
joe rogan
This is the actual explanation of what nicotine is.
Nicotine is a potent, boy, here we go, sympathomimectic.
That's my middle name.
Parasympathomimectic alkaloid found in the nightshade family of plants and is a stimulant drug.
ari shaffir
Nightshade?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
ari shaffir
That sounds cool.
joe rogan
That's why people like to smoke cigarettes after they fuck.
ari shaffir
Fuck.
joe rogan
It's a nicotinic acetylcholine receptor and agonist.
It's made from the roots and accumulates in the leaves of plants, which is obviously a tobacco plant.
I think some other plants have nicotinic.
ari shaffir
There were a lot of words in there I didn't know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think you can get nicotine from, I want to say guarana.
It might be something differently.
You ever have that acai?
That's what that is.
That's guarana berries.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Acai.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure.
Is acai guarana?
ari shaffir
It's spelled like something different, right?
How's it spelled?
I can never spell it.
brian redban
A-C-A-I. Is Nigeria going to play Germany?
joe rogan
A-C-A-I. That's it.
ari shaffir
Is Nigeria going to play Germany?
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
There's a black guy on the Nigerian team.
I mean, on the German team.
Why?
What's so funny?
brian redban
I just wondered.
joe rogan
This acai stuff is so delicious.
But apparently when you get it in Brazil, you get the pure form of it.
And a lot of times what we get has a lot of sugar in it.
I wonder who's got the best acai.
So I'm wrong.
It's not that other fruit.
What did I say it was?
What did I think it was?
brian redban
Uh...
ari shaffir
Guarana?
joe rogan
Guarana.
I think Guarana is a totally different thing.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, I know.
joe rogan
But Guarana is some sort of a stimulant.
Guarana is like caffeine.
You ever have that shit, that soda, that Brazilian soda?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
At Fogo de Chão, you never have that green Guarana soda?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Oh, son, you're missing out.
If you're going to go to Fogo de Chão and have the full Brazilian experience, you've got to get one of those Guarana sodas.
ari shaffir
I'm going to go back to Brazil.
joe rogan
Oh, so good.
brian redban
I wouldn't go there.
Or Fogo.
ari shaffir
Yeah, Fogo.
joe rogan
They have real Fogos.
They have the original Fogos in Rio.
ari shaffir
Chicken hearts.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have chicken hearts and organs.
They love to eat like that, man.
Those people love to eat like that.
Guarana has caffeine.
Yes, it does.
brian redban
Caffeine?
joe rogan
Yeah.
So that stuff has caffeine in it.
That's what I was getting confused with.
So guarana, I'm pretty sure is a totally different thing.
Acai, yeah, it doesn't even look like it.
Acai is those berries.
ari shaffir
Anyway, the important thing is keep smoking because it simulates you.
joe rogan
Listen to these guys.
They're fucking with you, man.
unidentified
Don't do it.
ari shaffir
It was so good.
I wonder how many people, as we talked about cigarettes and how bad they were, got the urge and lit up.
joe rogan
I'm sure they did.
They're smoking right now.
ari shaffir
At least some.
joe rogan
Cursing us.
brian redban
You know what I wish?
I wish I'd never smoked my whole life and on my 40th birthday I would start smoking.
Because who cares?
By the time you turn 80, who cares if you get cancer?
joe rogan
Oh my god, you're so retarded.
ari shaffir
Why would it be then?
Why wouldn't it be when you're 43?
brian redban
Sure.
joe rogan
I wonder about you sometimes.
Maybe that fucking computer sitting in front of the computer editing just cooked you.
You ever think of that?
brian redban
That's what I'm saying, Joe.
That shit's not good for you.
joe rogan
You're a different man now.
Maybe you could do it from a distance with a remote control or something.
brian redban
No, because you get addicted to things and you start looking at things and overplaying stuff over and over.
joe rogan
Oh, when you're video editing me?
brian redban
Yeah, when you play something over like three hours in a row.
That makes it so crazy, right?
joe rogan
But that's a sign of being really in love with what you're doing.
You're just really connected.
You're obsessed with your work.
Come on, man.
You know that when you release those really good ones and you got awesome response online from people.
It's just work.
Universally, on that message board, people talk about how great your video editing skills were.
ari shaffir
Did your eyes burn at the end of that?
joe rogan
I read about it.
ari shaffir
At the end of those nights where you're like, ah.
joe rogan
For sure.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
They actually say that is what's happening.
It's cooking your tear ducts.
ari shaffir
Wow, really?
joe rogan
There's something about it, like it dries out your tear ducts.
It's really bad for you.
brian redban
I still cry.
joe rogan
Well, I got a pair of glasses, and they're yellow.
They're supposed to cut down on the glare.
It's less intrusive.
It's like shooting glasses.
They look just like the type of glasses you wear on the range.
Because looking through yellow, it's supposed to be like...
Remember they have those stupid fucking commercials for those cheap-ass sunglasses?
brian redban
HD glasses.
They're the best sunglasses.
ari shaffir
They would go to the beach and be like, what do you think of these?
joe rogan
Everything's so much clearer!
unidentified
Wow!
ari shaffir
Yeah.
brian redban
Me and Segura wear those.
ari shaffir
Segura wears them?
brian redban
Yeah, me and Tom.
ari shaffir
Really?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, those are the ones that you're supposed to look at when you look at your computer.
unidentified
They're really nice.
joe rogan
HD vision!
It wraps around my normal spectacles!
ari shaffir
Yeah, you got the side ones too.
There's a little window on the side.
joe rogan
Listen, Ari, you got nothing to say to that guy.
Look at him.
What are you and him going to talk about?
You're on a bus next to each other for five hours.
So, what do you do for a living?
ari shaffir
I'm just a comic.
Where'd you get those glasses?
joe rogan
Oh, these are my HD wraparounds I've seen on TV. What?
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
unidentified
You saw them on TV and you ordered them from TV? They allow me to see you in a totally different light.
ari shaffir
Like what?
joe rogan
I've never met a Jew.
ari shaffir
You can see the horns.
joe rogan
What is it like being a Jew?
unidentified
Rawr.
joe rogan
What is it like?
ari shaffir
It's my favorite question.
My favorite stupid question to ask somebody.
What is it like to whatever?
What do you mean?
joe rogan
What's it like to be fucking funny?
ari shaffir
Seven.
joe rogan
It's like eight.
unidentified
Yeah.
What's it like to have those beautiful wraparound yellow sunglasses?
ari shaffir
It's like not having them, but it's way better than that.
joe rogan
Yeah, people say some weird shit to people sometimes.
What's it like?
Yeah, it must be nice.
What's it like?
ari shaffir
What's it like drinking a Coca-Cola?
joe rogan
What's it like to have him for a brother?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
For what?
unidentified
For a brother?
joe rogan
Him for a brother.
What's it like?
unidentified
I don't know.
ari shaffir
What's it like to have him for a brother?
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's it like to have her for a mom?
unidentified
Huh?
joe rogan
Fuck, bro.
ari shaffir
I guess the experience is...
joe rogan
Yeah.
People say douchey things, like, on the sneak tip.
They can say douchey shit like that where you're not supposed to get mad at them, but you're allowed to anyway.
ari shaffir
It's like, what the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
What kind of question is that?
ari shaffir
It's going nowhere.
You're wasting everyone's time.
joe rogan
What's it like to have her for a mom?
What the fuck?
What kind of question are you asking me, bitch?
Like, that's some weird person, right?
That's a person who's not nice.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're being douchey with you.
unidentified
Fuck them.
Fuck them right back.
joe rogan
Fuck them right back, son.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Take that shit.
brian redban
Joe, did you follow that story about that kidnapping of the kid that they found in the basement?
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
What the hell was that about?
brian redban
That's so suspect.
ari shaffir
Which kid?
joe rogan
It's very suspect, right?
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
What happened?
brian redban
Nancy Grace interviewed the guy, the father, too, I guess, last night.
I didn't watch it, but I heard it was...
unidentified
You're trying to tell me that you didn't look in the basement for your son and he was in there for 11 days?
Is that what you're trying to tell me, sir?
brian redban
And wasn't he like, I just thought my son was dead.
unidentified
Huh?
ari shaffir
He was just trapped in there?
joe rogan
He was hiding.
ari shaffir
Oh.
joe rogan
Apparently.
The official story.
ari shaffir
He died?
joe rogan
No.
No, he's alive.
They went looking for him for like 11 days.
The kid was in the basement the whole time hiding.
ari shaffir
Hiding behind some shit.
In a self-built dungeon?
joe rogan
He decided to make himself like a little house back there.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ari shaffir
So whatever.
joe rogan
He had food and clothes.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Obviously, there's something wrong.
You know?
I mean, that doesn't seem like a normal kid wants to be around their parents.
ari shaffir
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
Kids don't usually want to hide.
It must be much more than it.
ari shaffir
For 11 days.
Oh, you're saying the dad must have done something.
No way some kid hides for 11 days.
joe rogan
Something's wrong.
Whatever it is, whoever did something, it seems like something's wrong.
How many people are out there like that, that we don't know about?
unidentified
Like what?
joe rogan
What percentage of the population is in some terrible place like that, where they're trying to hide from their parents or they're trying to hide from someone in their family or someone they're close to?
What percentage?
brian redban
It is Detroit, Michigan.
The kid's 11. He might just have a girlfriend.
He's fucking in a basement somewhere.
joe rogan
That's true.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He'd be banging in the basement.
I don't think so, though.
Because they said they found him solo back there.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe he decided to go on an epic masturbation.
ari shaffir
What was he like when they found him?
joe rogan
I don't know.
He had food.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
He had food down there.
He was hiding.
brian redban
But there was blood that was found, like on rags and stuff.
There's a lot of weird questions about this whole thing.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
joe rogan
I didn't hear about that part.
brian redban
There might be period blood, though.
joe rogan
It could be, right?
But do girls get their period now at 11?
brian redban
In Detroit they do.
joe rogan
They do.
ari shaffir
I heard Detroit's becoming a cool city again.
joe rogan
Is that because of the metal?
Whoever said that, tell them to go fuck themselves.
ari shaffir
All these artists are moving in there and it's like changing up.
joe rogan
Listen, I hope that happens.
But we were just there a little while ago.
There's houses there that are $500.
ari shaffir
We're going to be kicking ourselves in 20 years.
You could have gotten a house for $10 and you didn't do it?
Why didn't you buy $100 at $10?
joe rogan
All due respect to Kid Rock and Eminem, I'm not moving to fucking Detroit.
I'm not buying property there.
It went bad.
I hope it goes back, but it went bad.
ari shaffir
What are they going to do?
Suddenly build new plants there?
joe rogan
Well, listen, the folks that are there, I definitely think there's an artist community there.
We met a lot of cool people that live there, no doubt about it.
But I'm saying, if you were trying to invest in something that you think you're stealing money, it's going to take a lot of work to bring Detroit back.
People are cool as fuck, though, man.
I enjoyed hanging out there.
People were super nice.
But I felt bad.
We were on this river.
Um, where, uh, these people were fishing and I was like, this water is not clean.
This is dirty water.
And they were like, yeah, it is.
And it was like, it's one of the most, the area around Zug Island is one of the most polluted areas in the country.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
And these people were fishing in it.
And I was like, man, I mean, how, I don't know if they're testing these fish.
I don't know if people are just eating them.
ari shaffir
There were Chinese people fishing in those fucking dirty, and I was like, what are you doing?
Even the residents were like, what are you doing?
joe rogan
They need food, man.
That's what it is.
You might have a fish that's not so good, but at least you're not hungry.
You cook it up good.
Shit, if you're smoking cigarettes already, you know, what difference does it make if you eat a fucking metallic fish?
Some fish loaded up with polluted heavy metal pollutions.
Apparently they checked a fish that they caught outside of Fukushima.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it was fine.
And it was one of the fish...
This is a science guy who debunks a lot of the myths about, you know, climate change and disasters and all sorts of like...
He's very, very strict, very concise with his, whether it's politically correct or not.
He's very scientific about his explanations for these things.
And he was explaining that this is a fish that is indigenous to this area.
It doesn't migrate.
So it's a fish that's been sucking in that water, filled with radiation.
It's only like a mile off the coast.
I think it was less than a mile.
And you can eat it.
He's like, these fish are fine.
You don't have to worry about the fish that's in the ocean.
ari shaffir
Have they caught fish that weren't like that?
joe rogan
They have caught fish that have an elevated amount of radiation in it.
And this is what's been really fascinating about Fukushima.
Obviously, I'm a fucking idiot, so when you're listening to me, anything that I say that might sound tricky, Google it.
What's fascinating about this is that it's opened me up to paying attention to how many different things have radiation.
There was an article the other day that said Grand Central Station has more radiation naturally occurring because of all that stone, all that marble that they have inside of there.
Marble gives off a certain amount of natural radiation.
It radiates.
And there's more radiation inside that giant train station than is allowable at a nuclear power plant for workers.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
Wow.
But it's natural radiation.
So that's better for you?
I don't know.
I don't understand that.
unidentified
Natural cholesterol.
joe rogan
That's where shit gets weird.
But when you're on a plane, you're taking mega doses.
We had Ensign Inoue, who lives in Japan.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Ensign, he does a lot of relief work for people up in Fukushima, trying to help people and spread the word about how bad the situation is and how many displaced people are up there.
He said that he brought his Geiger counter with him.
He brought in a plane.
He said, when you're in a plane, it's like the same as when you're in Fukushima.
It's fucking terrible!
brian redban
My dad said that you could actually...
Hang out there for a couple hours and you'll be fine.
So if you find a fish that's like a mile off shore, that fish is probably not just hanging out at that exact location for, you know, the whole time.
It probably just swam there, got caught.
So it's probably safe enough to eat this fish.
joe rogan
No, but that fish wasn't a migratory fish.
That was one of the reasons why it was significant.
brian redban
I guess, yeah.
joe rogan
I think it's hard to put in our stupid little heads how big the fucking ocean is.
ari shaffir
It's pretty big.
Yeah, it's hard.
joe rogan
It's so big.
It's bigger than the continent.
If you look at what the Pacific Ocean looks like and you look at the continent in North America, we're like this little tiny thing in there.
We don't show the whole thing on the map because there's not enough room to show the whole thing on the map.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
I mean, sort of.
I mean, look, you don't really get it.
You don't get it.
There's no way you get it.
The only way you get it is when you fly in Australia and you look out the window.
ari shaffir
Just go out there and find it.
It's so fucking far!
It's so fucking far!
joe rogan
There's so much water!
You can't see an end to the left, you can't see an end to the right, you can't see an end ahead, and you can't see an end behind you.
Everywhere you look is just water.
brian redban
Life of pie.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you better have a fucking good one of them...
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's the stuff we were going to get back to.
brian redban
Exactly.
There was a part in Life of the Pie, I just watched it in 3D the other day, but there was a part in it where the tiger made this crazy face right before he was about to pee on the main character, and it was so trippy.
It made me wonder why they threw it in there.
Like, it was very unrealistic.
And you were saying that you thought the movie kind of felt unrealistic, the tiger.
joe rogan
Well, it was completely unrealistic as far as the dynamic of the relationship between the guy and the tiger.
The fact that they fought over food.
The fact that he beat the tiger back and he was on a boat.
I mean, that...
I can go so far if he had superpowers.
If he was Wolverine or something like that, he could survive.
brian redban
But the end explained that.
You understood the end, how he explained all that.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
It didn't really happen.
joe rogan
No, he's hallucinating.
But during the movie, I'm like, this is just pissing me off.
ari shaffir
Right, because it's too much.
brian redban
When he was trying to get up that ladder and he wouldn't let him in the boat, man, that was some deep shit right there.
joe rogan
It was deep shit.
But the problem is, that's...
You know, my only problem with it is the unreal...
I mean, I shouldn't have a problem with it if it's just a dream.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
But the unrealistic movement of the cat drove me fucking crazy.
Because without that, the whole movie does not exist.
It doesn't work.
ari shaffir
Oh, right.
It's just a special effects movie.
joe rogan
Yeah, because if you...
ari shaffir
Like that Judge Dredd where they all use a slow-mo.
Did you see that one?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
Yeah, like, this is, wow, this is a commercial for that camera.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't do that.
ari shaffir
Hey, did you like Godzilla?
I'm gonna guess yes.
joe rogan
Only the end.
I love the end.
ari shaffir
What was the end?
joe rogan
When he killed that monster.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
Shh.
joe rogan
Spoiler alert.
ari shaffir
No, you can spoil it.
unidentified
I just went like this, and I'm holding tight in your headphones.
ari shaffir
Don't be spoil alert.
You get a limited amount of time, and then it's like, go fuck yourself.
With ample opportunity.
You can say somebody who's a Super Bowl winner the next day.
I can give away Star Wars.
At some point, it's a shitty movie.
You have a year to watch it.
joe rogan
It wasn't that shitty.
unidentified
It was just dumb.
brian redban
People are hating on it so much.
It's like the hipster thing they do.
ari shaffir
It was just so dumb.
Even Breaking Bad was unpleasant in it.
It didn't do anything good.
Why is this storyline in there?
joe rogan
I almost said what happens to him.
ari shaffir
Say it all.
joe rogan
It has problems.
No, don't do that.
Listen, it was a decent special effects movie.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
Godzilla was most certainly, no spoilers, no spoilers, most certainly the best Godzilla of all time, without a doubt.
ari shaffir
You didn't mind the part where he got knocked out and buried under that building, and then all of a sudden he was up and fighting again, and then the next scene he was back to buried under that building?
joe rogan
Nobody likes guys getting knocked out with pistols in the movie and then getting up and then duking their way out of a bar.
Nobody likes that more than me.
Those are my favorite scenes.
They're so unrealistic.
ari shaffir
I'm saying not getting up, being buried under a building, suddenly fighting the second Mothra guy, and then back to buried under the building as if he never had gotten out of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, ridiculous.
ari shaffir
Yeah, just terrible editing.
brian redban
That really happened?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He got out.
ari shaffir
I was like, wait, what's happening?
joe rogan
There was no consistency.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they just edited it wrong.
joe rogan
How about the dude?
ari shaffir
Yeah, horrible.
joe rogan
The dude had the worst luck of all time, but yet the best luck.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it was all fine.
joe rogan
The main character, all these terrible things keep happening, and yet he just stays alive.
But Godzilla looked awesome.
What I loved about Godzilla was the face.
It was incredible.
brian redban
I was going to ask you, Tony said that he hated it because the face was really round and he looked very Japanese and cutesy.
ari shaffir
Cutesy?
No way.
joe rogan
Tony's an evil man.
brian redban
I think that was Tony who said that.
I'm pretty sure he's the one that said that.
ari shaffir
He looks Japanese and evil.
joe rogan
Tony Hinchcliffe?
ari shaffir
Yeah, cutesy.
joe rogan
Cutesy.
I will go with cutesy.
Yeah, Tony Hinchcliffe.
I don't know why he was thinking about it looking cutesy.
I thought Godzilla looked awesome.
ari shaffir
He looked pretty cool.
joe rogan
I had no problem with the look.
ari shaffir
I like the other monster too.
joe rogan
The movie felt like a bunch of Hollywood people made it.
ari shaffir
Well, like in an afternoon.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it just felt like when you have an idea that's that high concept, you can run into cut-the-shit moments.
You can run into a bunch of cut-the-shit moments.
And there was just too many of them.
ari shaffir
Way too many.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, you could get away with doing a movie like 28 Days Later.
Obviously, they're completely different types of movies, but there was no cut-the-shit moments in that movie.
That movie was hard, fucking core.
ari shaffir
There was one.
joe rogan
Dragged you into it.
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was one?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
When he's in the...
joe rogan
Spoiler alert!
ari shaffir
Oh, come on!
It's been a fucking decade and a half!
joe rogan
I think probably more.
What was the spoiler?
ari shaffir
So he goes to that compound with all the army people.
They turn, because I like it.
Realistic.
That's what humans would do.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
That's, you know...
Not Bukowski.
Whatever.
Somebody's view of the world.
joe rogan
Nietzsche?
ari shaffir
No, who's that director?
Kubrick.
joe rogan
Kubrick.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
He would always, like, humans will just devolve into animals.
joe rogan
That's pretty much true.
ari shaffir
Take away society.
So, that's fine.
But then he, like, releases, like, one zombie into the, they were keeping.
But he's, like, suddenly an expert with weapons.
The whole movie is, like, trying to figure out what's happening.
I love that.
They have no clue.
He's never going to try to find a cure.
He's not that special.
And then suddenly he's just got...
He's really awesome with a machine gun out of nowhere.
joe rogan
Mo, how long had he been hanging out with those resistors?
ari shaffir
It was too fast.
joe rogan
Too fast.
ari shaffir
It was the only moment.
Everything else was great.
joe rogan
What if he had a background in the military or some shit?
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's right then.
unidentified
Yeah.
And you could explain that.
ari shaffir
Okay, that makes sense.
joe rogan
That's very cliche though.
The lone guy who's had a background in the military, he's a loner.
ari shaffir
Fucking Walking Dead does the same shit.
Carl, he's been using a gun.
He's fucking six.
He can shoot somebody over his father's shoulder at like eight yards.
joe rogan
He's older now.
Carl's been shooting a lot of zombies.
You get good at shit like that.
Kids are good at video games.
ari shaffir
Everyone in that world is awesome at guns.
joe rogan
I feel bad for Carl because he has zero chance of getting laid.
There's no pussy for Carl.
unidentified
Poor Carl.
joe rogan
He's already wandering around shooting fucking zombies.
There's no pussy.
He's like some older chicks that might eventually take him.
ari shaffir
Would you cut...
I'm going to change the question.
How long till you would...
Once you heard about cutting off the arms of zombies and like...
joe rogan
Can I run around with you?
No, fuck one.
Fuck one?
Yeah.
I would worry that...
Look, dude, I wouldn't fuck someone with AIDS. Imagine fucking someone with a zombie.
It seems like people with AIDS live a lot longer than zombies.
People with AIDS look way better than zombies.
They just need some fucking medication.
There's modern drugs, okay?
But I wouldn't do that.
Would you?
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
Fuck a guy who had AIDS. No.
What about a girl that is?
Of course not.
Okay, no, of course not.
So why would you fuck a zombie?
ari shaffir
Because there's nobody else to fuck.
We have other people to fuck.
joe rogan
But dude, you wouldn't.
ari shaffir
But if there was no one else to fuck?
joe rogan
Hold a zombie down and jerk off on its back.
ari shaffir
What if there was no one else?
Oh, yeah, maybe.
Just fondle his butt.
joe rogan
But you'd have a problem.
ari shaffir
Caress the butt.
joe rogan
You'd have a problem.
You'd still feel like a rapist.
Imagine holding some girl zombie down and she's screaming and gnashing.
And you're trying to fuck her.
You'd feel terrible.
ari shaffir
What if it started screaming a different way?
joe rogan
You'd feel the...
What if you fucked them and they came back to life?
Thank you.
I couldn't tell you, but that was a secret.
You had to fuck me.
Can you imagine?
ari shaffir
I found a cure that none of you are going to believe.
joe rogan
Like a prince.
A prince and a frog.
ari shaffir
I'm telling you.
joe rogan
The girl had to kiss the frog, right?
The guy's got to fuck the zombie.
And boom, she comes back to life.
But you cut my fucking arms off, asshole.
I'm so sorry.
I didn't know.
I thought you were never coming back.
brian redban
That's a great idea for a movie and everyone just starts fucking zombies and then you have to fuck the little ones too.
ari shaffir
Sometimes they bite you while you're doing it.
Fuck, now I've got to turn.
joe rogan
It would be called Rape the Undead.
ari shaffir
Rape the Undead?
joe rogan
Yeah, all through the movie would be Death Metal.
Just guys kicking doors down, holding zombies down, white pale asses bobbing up and down, male and female zombies.
Just an interracial, intergender orgy of fucking dead people.
ari shaffir
As they get healthy again, they have to start fucking whatever zombies are left.
joe rogan
Go back to the compound, dude's got a fucking oil drum filled with Viagra.
ari shaffir
I gotta fight the fight!
For the future.
joe rogan
Imagine it's like between fucking and biting.
Like it's a race.
Between the fuckers and the biters.
ari shaffir
Because the biters would fuck you back a little bit.
They'd bite you back and the fuckers would fuck.
It'd be like the game of Othello.
joe rogan
It totally would be.
Could you imagine if the only way that you could get them to come back is to fuck them?
You'd have to fuck everybody.
You'd even have to fuck your enemies.
Because you wouldn't want them being zombies and eating your family.
ari shaffir
You have to fuck them.
joe rogan
Come up with a boner to fuck your landlord.
That annoying lady who lives down the block.
The fucking yappy poodle.
That bitch turned into a zombie.
You gotta fuck her.
ari shaffir
One zombie's making it really hard for you.
Like, I got this one.
joe rogan
Everybody would be rushing to yoga mat places to try to fuck all the yoga zombies.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, whoever got locked in the yoga, whatever happened there.
joe rogan
If you could get to a yoga mat, most likely you're going to have some hot chicks in there.
These in-shaped zombies.
And that might kind of be a freak thing.
ari shaffir
Or the farts have stayed in there for too long.
joe rogan
What if the zombie just completely gave in to you?
What if the zombie started backing up on your dick?
It was a female yoga zombie.
She started backing up on your dick.
She was really into it.
You're like, holy shit.
But she still reaches back, claws at you, so you've got to hold her wrists.
But she's backing into you.
brian redban
Yeah, would you go to yoga first?
joe rogan
Yes, that's the first place I'd go.
unidentified
If I was on a mission to save the world, I'd go Korean barbecue.
ari shaffir
Korean barbecue.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you see, it's a race between if you could fuck them before they can bite you or their friends bite you.
So you can't go into places like a fucking Korean barbecue solo.
ari shaffir
Plus, if they bite you, they might eat you.
If you don't come back at all.
joe rogan
They might eat you.
That's a good point.
They might kill you.
You only turn into one of them if they bite you a little.
ari shaffir
If they bite you a little, yeah.
joe rogan
Get a little blood on you.
brian redban
I come fast, so I won't be worried.
joe rogan
How fast?
brian redban
Because I'd be making an army real quick.
joe rogan
I think you need to fill them up.
I think every time you come inside of them, they get a little less zombie.
ari shaffir
Oh.
joe rogan
Jesus.
ari shaffir
More human.
joe rogan
You've got to hold them down for weeks.
Chain them up in your basement.
Just bang them.
But then the problem would be you'd both get addicted to having sex in that way.
Once you become a normal person...
ari shaffir
Yeah, how long till you get hard every time you hear...
You would start just...
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe you just automatically hear that.
You hold a chick's hands behind her back.
She's like, what the fuck?
I don't like this, Ari.
Cut this shit.
Sorry.
I thought we were playing rape zombie.
brian redban
What would be gross is they would all come back to life, but half of them would be missing chunks of their neck.
They heal up!
joe rogan
So they heal up!
Everything's fine.
So she's got no lips.
She's a sweet girl.
She draws pictures of the things she wants.
ari shaffir
I like walking down.
If you hold them to that hand too much, it just evaporates.
joe rogan
Their hand breaks off in your hand.
But now they're a regular person.
They start crying and looking at their stubs.
Why is it that's a thing that people are constantly worried about?
They're constantly worried about the zombie apocalypse.
That's like a reoccurring theme in movies.
ari shaffir
Fucking Bible.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
ari shaffir
No, I don't know.
There's no such thing as zombies in the Bible.
joe rogan
But do you think it's because people worry that...
It's so loosely put together.
Society is so loosely put together.
ari shaffir
They could easily become that.
joe rogan
They could easily just fuck up.
Something can go wrong.
What would make it go wrong?
Some fucking disease that gives us rabies or something.
You think of things like that?
Like, oh, don't go near that squirrel.
He's got rabies.
ari shaffir
When 12 Monkeys came out, I was like, that shit's real, man.
That shit's real.
They have toxins that can get with everybody.
joe rogan
That was a terrifying movie.
There's a lot of those movies.
How many of those apocalyptic movies are there?
ari shaffir
Tons.
joe rogan
Fuckload of them, man.
28 days later, 28 weeks.
ari shaffir
What was the rage one?
That was 28 days later.
joe rogan
Yes.
There was something that they, a chimp disease, right?
They manufactured it and then it got into people.
ari shaffir
It got out.
joe rogan
Goddamn, that was a good zombie movie.
ari shaffir
They were fast as fuck.
Like, oh wow, it's way worse if they're really fast.
joe rogan
Way better.
I don't know how the fuck they went back to slow zombies after that.
28 days later would be 10 times more epic if those motherfuckers were fast.
ari shaffir
Like that rage.
joe rogan
Could you imagine?
If those motherfuckers were fast, that movie would be, that show would be so different.
ari shaffir
They're all adrenaline, just running after you as fast as possible.
joe rogan
I don't know if you could do it.
I mean, maybe one of the elements in being able to construct these stories that take place over long periods of time is that the zombies can't be the biggest threat.
Because if they're not the biggest threat, then people sort of become the biggest threat.
ari shaffir
Right.
joe rogan
Because that show is a show about, the zombies are sort of periphery at this point.
Like, what the show's really all about is people, like, turning on people.
ari shaffir
What, what, what?
Walking Dead?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, right, right, right.
joe rogan
That's what it's all about.
ari shaffir
Yeah, zombies are like, yeah, it's just like a speed bump.
joe rogan
This should be nothing.
It should be nothing.
I used to go crazy when I watched that show and they were all at the prison and they were all outside.
I'm like, why aren't you killing them?
And then one day it became a problem.
They're right there.
They're pressed up against the cage.
Occasionally you'd see them kill them, but there were days on end where they're out there planting tomatoes.
ari shaffir
I thought about that.
Because they're right outside the fence, you mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
There's millions of them.
joe rogan
Just fucking kill them every day.
That's what you do today, dude.
That's what you do today.
brian redban
Just catch them on fire.
You know, just pour hot lava on them.
joe rogan
That's too hard.
Why would you do that when you're just stabbing the head?
You're stabbing the head.
It takes five seconds.
That's your workout for today.
Yeah, that's your workout.
brian redban
Well, if there were so many, you could just mow them all down in big portions of gas and stuff.
joe rogan
See, that's what you're thinking.
You're taking the lazy way out.
You don't want a goddamn exercise.
I'm thinking like one of those minors axes.
One of those pickaxes.
And you're just doing like kettlebell exercises.
Just smashing...
These zombie things in the head, yeah.
In a switch, you've got to do a lot of lefties because you don't want to imbalance your back.
brian redban
Do you think you could do that, even if it was a zombie?
Because I think I'd be like, eee!
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
I could do that right now.
If it was a crew of zombies, I wouldn't need any preparation.
There are zombies up against a fence.
It wouldn't even take me five seconds to stab the first zombie in the head.
If you gave me a nice big sword type thing, and there were zombies, and I had to stab them, I would immediately start stabbing zombies.
brian redban
Yeah, but you would see the human elements of them.
Like a little necklace.
You're like, oh, that necklace.
joe rogan
Nope, right in the brain.
Nope.
That's not a little kid.
That's a monster.
Off with his head.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
They always have that when somebody sees their kid.
joe rogan
No problem.
Yeah, whatever.
Not me.
ari shaffir
Stabby, stabby.
joe rogan
I know how to get over things.
ari shaffir
That's stabbing through the face.
I don't help you get over it.
joe rogan
I'm so fucked up.
That was the most fucked up part of that show where guys had to kill their wives and shit and kill their family members and kill their daughters.
ari shaffir
That's tough.
joe rogan
The one guy that kept his daughter locked up and thought she was sick.
ari shaffir
He kept talking to her all the time.
joe rogan
That's dark.
That is dark, dark, dark.
ari shaffir
It would be that example of it.
It would be that example.
joe rogan
That very specific scenario would definitely take place with a lot of people.
It would be too hard for them to take...
And also they would also hope that one day there'd be a cure.
ari shaffir
Yeah, so we could save them.
But they're carrying this threat around all the time.
joe rogan
I wonder if you could have the same show with that 28 Days Later style.
ari shaffir
No.
Oh, just people surviving like that?
joe rogan
The zombies much faster.
ari shaffir
So much faster.
joe rogan
But would the stories be the same?
Because it seems like the zombies would be a way bigger threat.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're on you at any time, and then it's over.
Yeah, they were a way bigger threat.
joe rogan
So you couldn't have as many relationships with people that go bad.
You wouldn't really get to that.
You'd just be scrambling for survival.
And these things would be...
I'm fucking chasing after you full clip with crazy bloodshot eyes.
You remember that?
ari shaffir
I was 28 weeks later...
joe rogan
It was pretty good, too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it was pretty good.
joe rogan
It wasn't as good, but it's pretty goddamn good.
Pretty goddamn good.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a realistic monster scenario, not like Godzilla.
Oh, there's something that's on the ocean.
It's been there the whole time waiting.
Oh, get the fuck out of here.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
We tried to kill it during World War II. They were trying to kill it.
That's with the nuclear bomb.
They weren't tests.
They were trying to kill something.
ari shaffir
Get the fuck out of here.
It was so badly acted.
joe rogan
I've seen the tests, you dummy.
You can watch the animated GIF online.
Those tests that they did in the South Pacific, they weren't shooting Godzilla.
You can't rewrite history.
ari shaffir
Shitbox movie.
joe rogan
They did that in the X-Men too.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
They said that Kennedy was a mutant.
unidentified
Bitch!
ari shaffir
Stop.
How do you think one man got shot three times by one bullet?
joe rogan
He was trying to curve the bullet away.
Bitch!
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Stop.
You guys, I can't believe you left that in the script.
That's one of the...
Someone should have been in the room.
ari shaffir
You need to take it to a board of people who will watch this and tell you what's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Yeah, just normal people.
brian redban
We're all sitting around smoking a joint.
ari shaffir
Why would he do that?
Why would he do that?
joe rogan
We should offer that as a service.
The Death Squad movie reviews.
We'll sit down, watch a movie together, and then give them feedback.
unidentified
Why the fuck will we listen to you, assholes?
brian redban
We'll give you honest feedback.
We'll cuss in our feedback, probably.
We'll be like, that was fucking stupid.
ari shaffir
That guy would never do that.
joe rogan
You know what they would need?
They would need something where you would agree to not talk about it.
If it was really bad.
They would need that.
ari shaffir
That's how you know a movie's going to suck when there's no critic reviews because they don't put it before the critics.
They're like, you guys are going to pan it and they'll know it.
When you see no ratings on Rotten Tomatoes, avoid that movie.
brian redban
The day before.
ari shaffir
They know it's a piece of shit.
Not even those people are deluded enough to think people will like this.
joe rogan
There's also weird movies that they don't release for years.
They sit on the shelf and they're like, do you remember Antonio Banderas, The 13th Warrior?
Do you remember that?
unidentified
Mm-mm.
joe rogan
It was originally called, like, The Eater of the Dead.
It was a, um...
God, who was the fuckin'...
ari shaffir
What happened to Antonio Banderas?
joe rogan
He's just chillin', man.
He got a lot of money.
ari shaffir
Just enjoying himself in cartoons?
joe rogan
Eating pineapples and drinking margaritas and shit.
Eaters of the Dead.
brian redban
The 13th Warrior.
6.6.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was one of those movies that took a long time to come out.
It was a Michael Crichton book.
ari shaffir
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
God, I think I read it.
Either I read it or I started to read it.
I think I started to read it, but I never actually read it.
But it's from a long time ago.
The book is from 1976. Really?
Yeah, the book is, like, way more involved, though, and much more, like...
ari shaffir
Oh, you think?
joe rogan
Much creepier.
ari shaffir
Books always get it better.
joe rogan
Well, they do better than this Antonio Banderas movie.
It was way over budget, apparently.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
How do you go over budget?
joe rogan
They'd only made $62 million.
This is how much money they lost.
It made $62 million, but the budget was more than $100 million.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Oh, Chihuahua.
brian redban
You know what looks stupid is that I Frankenstein movie.
joe rogan
Oh my god, who said you could make that?
ari shaffir
Who said you could make that?
joe rogan
Who said you could make that?
Could you imagine if you sit down with the guys who wanted to make that and go, wait a minute, wait a minute, what?
You're having a sexy Frankenstein?
Did you just tell me you're having a sexy Frankenstein?
Joe, I could have sworn tomatoes.
I could have sworn I walked in this office and you told me you wanted me to invest movie in a sexy Frankenstein.
ari shaffir
I did not say that.
unidentified
Listen, listen, listen, listen.
joe rogan
This is what we got.
We got fucking vampires, okay?
The vampires are sexy.
ari shaffir
Women are going for that.
joe rogan
They are going to go.
What's the difference between a vampire and Frankenstein?
Frankenstein is actually alive now.
They were both dead, okay?
Frankenstein is alive.
So, a sexy Frankenstein.
unidentified
And who can pull it off?
joe rogan
I'll tell you.
What's his name?
ari shaffir
Aaron Eckhart?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's it?
ari shaffir
Aaron Eckhart?
unidentified
Aaron Eckhart.
joe rogan
That's who can pull it off.
That is our sexy Frankenstein.
This is what we've been missing, Ari.
This is our fucking Twilight.
ari shaffir
So wait, he's not going to be a big zombie anymore?
He's not going to be a big wolf?
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
He's beautiful.
He's delicious.
He talks well.
He looks like a guy who's been in a rough street fight.
ari shaffir
Maybe that should be a different monster.
It's clearly not Frankenstein.
joe rogan
Hey, easy.
Dracula wasn't even allowed to go in the sun, but the Edward guy just sparkled.
You can change the rules.
It's part of fiction.
ari shaffir
Why was that?
Seattle's Overcast?
Is that how they got rid of that?
joe rogan
I don't know.
ari shaffir
I think they said Seattle's overcast.
joe rogan
Don't put the vault.
Yeah, that's what it was.
That's why he went up there.
They went to Pacific Northwest.
ari shaffir
That's why they moved up there.
joe rogan
The sun never comes out.
But when it does come out, they glisten.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't die like a real fucking vampire.
They change the rules.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
That's why it's bullshit.
unidentified
That's why.
joe rogan
Can you pull up without us getting pulled off of YouTube?
I don't know if it's possible.
See if you can pull up a video of Frankenstein with no volume.
Don't put any volume on it.
And let's just mock how it looks.
It won't matter.
Jamie, they'll still pull it?
Alright.
Fuck it then.
Don't do it.
Look at it for yourself.
You know what we need to do?
We need to set it up on that thing so we can watch it without it being...
brian redban
4kspecial.com TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
We'll do that from now on.
ari shaffir
There's no copyright in China.
brian redban
Is this new Frankenstein movie the same story?
Does he play a dumb guy, but he's sexy?
ari shaffir
He's fighting these winged creatures.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's making shit up.
They're making shit up.
brian redban
I thought he was like, oh, fire.
joe rogan
No.
He sparkles when he goes outside.
It's bullshit.
It's all bullshit.
brian redban
I hate that spot.
joe rogan
And he's smoldering.
Meanwhile, how the fuck is that guy still in class?
Can you imagine you're a thousand years old, you keep going to class because you don't want to make anybody suspicious?
ari shaffir
Oh, when did Columbus discover?
Oh yeah!
joe rogan
I was alive back then.
ari shaffir
14, yeah, that's right.
joe rogan
He was actually like the Spanish flu that killed him, which was I think in the 1900s.
ari shaffir
Killed who?
joe rogan
Edward.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
From Twilight.
And so he died.
unidentified
He died?
joe rogan
Spanish flu.
Big Spanish flu.
ari shaffir
And that killed the vampire?
joe rogan
The vampire.
He got vampired right around the same time.
That's how he stayed alive forever.
ari shaffir
Oh, oh, oh.
joe rogan
Same time.
Back in the Spanish flu days.
ari shaffir
Oh, okay.
So he's only been around for like 100 years or so.
joe rogan
He's old enough to know that he shouldn't be in high school anymore.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking idiot.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Trying to pretend.
It's like the idea is that he died when he was in high school.
So we keep him in high school forever.
ari shaffir
You can do better.
No, why?
joe rogan
How about you just grow a beard?
ari shaffir
How about just say, oh, actually, I'm older than I look.
joe rogan
Yeah, just say I look young for my age.
Hey, don't...
That was something that I read today online where it was showing how many Asian women could be like almost 50 and they look like they're 20 years old.
Is that really true?
You just got back from China.
ari shaffir
Oh, they look 50. Oh, they look younger, not 20. But they look super young.
joe rogan
50 looks like 30?
ari shaffir
I'd say that.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they stay in shape.
Low-sugar diets.
joe rogan
Low-sugar diets and they stay in shape.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they walk around a lot.
At least in the few cities I went to.
joe rogan
Hmm.
brian redban
I know a couple girls that are like 45. And I mean, they look pretty sexy.
ari shaffir
Yeah, Asian girls keep it for a while.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why is that, you think?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
I think it's just better genetics that way.
joe rogan
More alien DNA? Just that type of DNA. That's my theory.
ari shaffir
No, it's just the type that stays young longer.
Jews have the kind that makes you smarter.
joe rogan
Okay.
ari shaffir
Asians have the kind that makes you look...
joe rogan
How did...
ari shaffir
Black don't crack.
joe rogan
Without...
At risk of sounding really racist.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Although I'm not.
ari shaffir
Start recording now.
joe rogan
If you look at all the different races, and obviously there's some sort of biological explanation for this, but how the fuck did so many Asian people have such similar features?
How the fuck did so many African people have such similar features?
ari shaffir
How did they start?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it's amazing.
It's amazing when you look around at how many Chinese people have black hair and And similar skin tone.
How many black people have that hair and similar skin tone?
I mean, it's amazing.
ari shaffir
Yeah, those whites have a variety.
joe rogan
Well, people who are of mixed race.
Like my family, a lot of it comes from Sicily.
And you remember that scene from True Romance?
unidentified
You're an eggplant.
joe rogan
The Moors.
But I think the Moors were Sephardic people.
I'm not sure.
ari shaffir
It's like Morocco.
brian redban
It's like breeds of dogs.
All Shih Tzus look like Shih Tzus.
All white people look like mutts.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Now here's what's weird.
Because breeds of dogs were engineered.
That's why it's crazy.
Breeds of dogs originally were all wolves.
All dogs were at one point in time who knows how many thousands of years ago.
They have no idea when people started domesticating dogs.
But they assumed that it was right around the time civilization was invented.
ari shaffir
Oh really?
And that's when breeds became a thing?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like 10,000 years of breeding.
That's what you're looking at when you look at a shih tzu, when you look at a husky, when you look at a wolf.
It's the same animal.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
It started off the same animal.
Like, what?
ari shaffir
Dog.
Dog.
That's it.
joe rogan
They all come from wolves, which is the weirdest thing.
An English bulldog.
ari shaffir
He domesticated a wolf who was like, let's get the two coolest wolves.
joe rogan
Well, they had an episode about it on the Cosmos.
It was really fascinating.
The Cosmos show?
Have you watched that?
ari shaffir
No, I've heard it's great.
joe rogan
God damn, it's good.
It's so good.
And it pisses off religious people.
Oh my goodness.
ari shaffir
They're like, well, we want the whatever theory explained, too.
joe rogan
Intelligent design.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and he goes, why would I include that?
There's no scientific basis for it.
What are you talking about?
We're talking about science.
brian redban
I love him.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's awesome.
He's awesome as fuck.
ari shaffir
I'm not talking about that.
joe rogan
What happened was, apparently...
According to the cosmos, is that some wolves got friendlier with people because the people would feed them.
And then they kept coming around, the people would feed them, they developed a relationship, and then those wolves would chase off the other wolves.
And then they only bred with the wolves that were friendly.
ari shaffir
Nice wolves.
joe rogan
Yeah, those wolves eventually became dogs over who knows how many thousands of years.
Selective breeding, bringing certain dogs, wolves that behaved in certain ways together.
I mean, I don't know how many generations it took to do it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, me neither.
But yeah, that's what humans are.
That's what humans are.
joe rogan
That's what we're like.
ari shaffir
Did you have to tell you my new theory about why black people are late?
brian redban
Yeah!
ari shaffir
So, you've heard about black people's time and how they're just late.
joe rogan
I have no idea what you're talking about.
ari shaffir
That's a racial stereotype.
joe rogan
I've never even heard it.
ari shaffir
If you haven't heard, now you heard.
joe rogan
I never say anything bad about black people.
ari shaffir
It's like Don Barris says, there's only one race.
The human race.
joe rogan
Aw, you sweet.
ari shaffir
Um...
Because when you were slaves, time didn't matter at all.
joe rogan
What about Jamaicans?
ari shaffir
They're on time.
Jamaicans are slaves too, aren't they?
joe rogan
I think they were slaves.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a poor example.
ari shaffir
Any black people over here?
joe rogan
What about Africans?
Actual Africans?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hard-working people.
Some of the hardest working people you'll ever hire are African Africans.
ari shaffir
Those are the drug dealers in Beijing and Hong Kong.
joe rogan
Are you ratting them out on the podcast?
Just like that?
ari shaffir
Well, the black people.
joe rogan
You're ratting them out?
ari shaffir
I guess so.
joe rogan
How dare you?
ari shaffir
As a race.
joe rogan
Dude, you shouldn't do that because I bet the Chinese authorities had no idea.
ari shaffir
They know.
joe rogan
I bet it was a complete mystery.
Cracked by Ari Shafir on the Joe Rogan podcast.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He explained.
Imagine if they got angry and they started going after you.
This is something that you would think about if you ate way too much pot.
Yeah.
If you ate way too much pot, you're like, why did I give up the fact that they were drug dealers?
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
I'm such an idiot.
unidentified
Oh my God.
joe rogan
What was I thinking?
Oh my God.
I ratted out all the drug dealers.
ari shaffir
You!
joe rogan
That guy from the podcast!
I saw your podcast!
ari shaffir
You think it's for...
joe rogan
You want drugs from me?
ari shaffir
Yes, I'd love some.
joe rogan
Imagine that shit, dude.
You'd be tripping.
ari shaffir
Now you get none.
joe rogan
No, they would kill you.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Serve you.
ari shaffir
That's worse than not selling you.
joe rogan
How many weeks were you over there?
ari shaffir
Two and a half.
joe rogan
And you were in China.
You were in Singapore.
No.
No?
ari shaffir
I'm just making shit up.
joe rogan
Vietnam.
Did you go to Africa?
ari shaffir
Shanghai.
joe rogan
South America.
ari shaffir
Shanghai and a few cities around there.
Beijing.
And then Hong Kong.
joe rogan
So what was the biggest city out of those?
ari shaffir
Shanghai.
joe rogan
Shanghai's huge, right?
ari shaffir
24 million.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
It's like a New York 24 million, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Manhattan has nine.
joe rogan
But I mean, like, New York's stuffed in there.
Oh, yeah, it's stuffed in.
It's like an enormous stuffed in there.
unidentified
Stuffed in.
ari shaffir
There's a few places with, like, one-story things, but not much.
Everything's just tall buildings.
joe rogan
Because LA's 20 million people, but the good news is they're flat out.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
The flattened out, I think, alleviates a little bit of pressure.
ari shaffir
Shanghai was completely flat.
joe rogan
So, but it's low, like, single-story?
ari shaffir
Like, buildings, tall buildings and stuff?
joe rogan
Oh, all short buildings.
ari shaffir
No, I'm saying actually the ground is flat.
So you can bike around real easily and walk around.
joe rogan
That's not what I meant.
I meant that they stack on top of each other.
ari shaffir
Yeah, no, they have high rises there.
joe rogan
See, that's the difference between New York and LA. New York doesn't really have those.
ari shaffir
Yeah, completely safe.
joe rogan
Or excuse me, LA doesn't really have those.
ari shaffir
100% safe.
No one's doing anything to anybody.
joe rogan
LA has those apartments on Wilshire.
ari shaffir
A few.
It's like Century City.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
They don't really have it.
joe rogan
Fairly big.
Like 16 floors.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
brian redban
Did they like Americans?
Or did you feel like they...
Didn't care that you were there.
ari shaffir
Well, the shows I played to were for expats.
It was like 15-20% Americans.
joe rogan
So the rest of it was Chinese?
ari shaffir
No, the rest was English, Australians.
Wow.
And they're cool.
I mean, they're a little bit conservative because they don't have any plumbers that are over there.
They have people that work for the embassy or people that work for banks.
So the people are a little more conservative and smarter.
But they're adventurous people.
People that go work in Shanghai or in Hong Kong instead of where they're from.
You guys are the cool people that want to do stuff.
joe rogan
That's a good way of looking at it.
ari shaffir
I mean, it was.
They were all cool.
brian redban
Or running from the law in other countries.
unidentified
But those are often the good people as well.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
So who set this up?
Well, you don't have to tell me the person's name, but so you had your agent set this up?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I think Rhodes talked to my agent at an airport, and he tells him he goes on those things, and he got me and Schubert.
Schubert went, too, a different time.
Wow.
Yeah, so it was just these scenes.
They start their own scene, and then they'll bring out a guy to do their four rooms, and then they'll team up with another guy in another scene.
joe rogan
Wow, and these guys fly from America.
ari shaffir
No.
There is, and this is the coolest part.
There are brand new comedy scenes starting from scratch.
joe rogan
In China?
ari shaffir
In China.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
Both in Chinese now and English speaking.
unidentified
Whoa.
ari shaffir
And the people that are already there, they're working for banks, they're working as teachers, and then they see a show and somebody goes, hey, guess what everybody, there's going to be an open mic next Thursday because they found some bar that will allow it.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
And then somebody tries, so these people there are like, Longest is like three years.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's all starting from scratch.
There's no rules.
There's no like, this is the way it is.
You have to wait until these guys move on.
There's nowhere to learn from either other than YouTube.
unidentified
That's so cool.
brian redban
That's great.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
ari shaffir
From scratch.
It was really exciting.
joe rogan
What if they take over?
Imagine if China takes over and becomes the number one comedy community in the world.
ari shaffir
That'd be hilarious.
But China has this style of comedy that's like this thousand-year-old Abbott and Costello with cadence changes.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
So the new guys that speak both are trying to do regular style comedy?
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
And people are like, wait, I don't understand.
What are you doing?
joe rogan
Oh, so it's a cadence issue.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's way different than they're used to.
joe rogan
I saw a guy, there's a video about a guy from Canada who moved to China and became a comedian.
He was a comedian in America, but he learned Chinese.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, learned Chinese, speaks, you know, which one, Mandarin, I don't know which one.
ari shaffir
Yeah, those people have done that.
Des Bishop did it for the last year, took a bunch of Mandarin classes.
Really?
joe rogan
Who's this Des Bishop?
ari shaffir
He's big in Ireland, but he's from New York originally.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
Wow.
I think he did a show.
joe rogan
That's a ballsy move.
ari shaffir
It's a ballsy move.
He lived in Beijing for a year.
Now he's in his second year.
joe rogan
Can you imagine going from not speaking Chinese to speaking Chinese for a fucking living in front of Chinese people?
ari shaffir
It's such a foreign language.
Making fun of the alphabet and why certain symbols look like certain things.
Yeah.
joe rogan
And how difficult is it to learn how to talk in that language?
ari shaffir
He said you can't translate your bits.
You've got to write new bits for it.
Because the references are so off that it just won't.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
And it was.
A lot of it, something really big in Chinese culture is losing face.
Like, way bigger than you would think.
joe rogan
Being embarrassed, you mean?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
But, like, losing faces, like, say, I'm trying to pay for a meal, and you're like, no, I got it.
I'm like, no, no, I got it.
You're like, no, no, I can pay.
I'm like, I'd be like, hey, man, you gotta let me do this here.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
I put my card out.
Like, you gotta let me do this.
You can't embarrass me in front of these people.
unidentified
Oh, I see.
ari shaffir
It's more than just, like, slight embarrassment.
That's another reason why there's less crime, is because people are like, what am I getting caught?
Fucking shoplifting?
joe rogan
Oh, that's cool.
ari shaffir
You know how embarrassed I'll be?
So they go out of the way to not be that person.
joe rogan
So is there statistically less crime than America?
ari shaffir
It's so safe.
Shanghai.
They say women can walk 3.30 in the morning drunk and no one's touching them.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
The only violence is acts of rebellion against this country.
unidentified
Whoa.
ari shaffir
Against that country, I mean.
Yeah, where people take out machetes and fucking hack up a Mahjong game.
unidentified
Ooh.
ari shaffir
Which they show on the subways, by the way.
joe rogan
They show Mahjong games on the subways?
ari shaffir
No.
They show Mahjong games getting hacked by these fucking Uyghurs.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
ari shaffir
In South China.
These Uyghurs are rebelling.
They're the 7% minority, ethnically.
joe rogan
What are they?
What's a Uyghur?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
It's a different ethnic group.
joe rogan
I'm not fully sure.
ari shaffir
I think W-I-E-G-E-R? But it might be W-E-G-E-R. You can put ethnic W-E and it'll probably come up.
brian redban
Comes up a gun.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they look a little different.
They have different food.
And they're 7%.
And in some cities, like 1%.
But they don't, I don't know, they don't like, they want to break off or something.
So they're the ones who got the big stabbings that were going on.
And there were these videos of this mahjong playing game going on.
And this guy just lifts up his shirt, pulls out an axe, a little hand axe, and just starts axing this guy.
And then the other guy, who's also watching, he's like, oh, it's on?
And he just picks up his shirt and starts fucking axing these people.
Yeah, and then everyone, like, this mayhem, somebody, like, is what, they try to tackle him.
He comes back, tries to ax this girl a few more times.
Then they chase him down.
joe rogan
Uyghur.
The way it's spelled.
It's a very unusual spelling.
It's spelled U-Y-G-H-U-R. Wow.
ari shaffir
I would not have guessed that.
Say that again.
joe rogan
U-Y-G-H-U-R. Wow.
It's also spelled in another instance U-I-G-H-U-R. So U-Y or U-I. And they're Chinese Muslims.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
They're always starting to trouble, the Muslims.
Always with the violence.
unidentified
Damn.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but they show this on the subway and it's with the kids there.
It's like, Jesus, they really...
I mean, they blur it right as the hacking goes on.
unidentified
Oh, God.
ari shaffir
It goes into the head and stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
So you can see that when you're on the train?
ari shaffir
Yeah, they show everybody.
Now they have complete control over the media, of all the media.
joe rogan
So the government has complete control.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and it's not hidden.
What does that feel like?
joe rogan
What does that feel like?
ari shaffir
Well, they kind of don't know that they're getting the real story.
So they say it's the Uyghurs, but you know how there's rumors like, I don't know what Al-Qaeda is and what the other one is?
It's like they say that, but who knows what that really is?
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
What's the other group?
Al-Qaeda and...
joe rogan
Taliban.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and like...
But there, they just like, we really don't know.
unidentified
Hmm.
ari shaffir
But, you know, it's different than here, and it's the same as here.
It's like they were going to put chips in all the computers so that you couldn't go on sites that China didn't allow.
You can't go to Google, but you can go on a VPN and just go through a different server and get all the stuff.
joe rogan
You know, Google's very concerned about China.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They're concerned also.
Other companies are concerned about China because China will just copy shit.
ari shaffir
Oh, absolutely.
joe rogan
Like, they have fake Apple stores that are just totally fake.
ari shaffir
Fake Apple stores?
My friend, Turner Sparks, who's helping running the scene in Shanghai, So he's bringing Mr. Softy to China.
He got like a licensing agreement.
joe rogan
The ice cream?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
He's bringing these Mr. Softy trucks out there.
And they're starting to do good.
And then someone else will just paint up another van exactly like Mr. Softy.
The same exact colors.
Serve the same things.
And just park it right in front of his Mr. Softy van.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
It just looks like he put two vans there together at the same time.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
And the government doesn't do anything.
It's like, what did they do?
You had a good idea?
Now they're doing it.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
That's amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's hard.
You don't even think in terms of copyright laws.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't think in terms of litigation either, right?
It's just a totally different kind of culture as far as our constant suing of each other back and forth.
ari shaffir
I don't know about that.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
Maybe.
joe rogan
Hmm.
I wonder.
It's interesting when you see that, though.
I mean, it's got to be really fascinating for you to come from our American culture and be immersed in their culture for three weeks.
I've never done that before.
ari shaffir
It was cool.
joe rogan
I've been to Brazil for a few days, but a lot of Brazilians speak English.
ari shaffir
After like seven, eight, nine days, though, it started to become normalized a little bit.
Really?
I could really observe stuff.
Plus, I got a little lonely, so I could make friends easier once you need to.
joe rogan
Right.
How long did you stay in the same place?
ari shaffir
Shanghai was the first night and we went to like suburbs of Shanghai for a few days and then back to Shanghai for two days.
They have a proper club called Kung Fu Comedy which is like...
joe rogan
Listen, you proper.
Saying proper like an Englishman.
ari shaffir
But I mean, yeah.
It's like it works out as a club.
There's one room that looks like the belly room and it's just like, oh, this is a cool place.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
Other places where bars where they try to set it up, you know.
joe rogan
That's cool, man.
ari shaffir
But it's all these expats who need something English-speaking.
It's kind of like the USO tours, you'd ever hear about that, where they're always really thankful.
It's like that.
No hecklers.
They're just so happy that there's English-speaking comedy.
joe rogan
And how many of those people knew you from online?
ari shaffir
Zero.
No, no, no, not zero.
Like, a couple.
joe rogan
So most people are just there because they're checking out new comics that come into town every week.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and some guy's like, man, I'm a big fan of yours.
Like, oh, thanks.
He goes, yeah, I checked out those videos on the website that they showed.
I was like, oh, that means you saw who was playing, and then you watched the video.
You're not a big fan.
That's okay.
joe rogan
You became a big fan super recently.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
It wasn't like excited.
There were some podcast listeners, a few here or there, that one show in Shanghai had like seven or eight.
joe rogan
Wow.
So Shanghai is just developing a reputation, like these scenes are developing a reputation for bringing funny people around, so folks just come out to see who the new guy is.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and it's like once a month they can bring in an out-of-towner.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
And the scene starts, but you can only do the room like twice with any joke before they're like, yeah, we've all seen it, man.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
ari shaffir
Because you're drawing from a city of 50,000 tops.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
In a city of 24 million, there's 50,000 English speakers.
joe rogan
So do they write a lot there?
ari shaffir
They have to.
But you know, the open mic days, that's how you did it anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You'd write a lot.
Every week, you'd be like, oh, they're performing in front of the same guys.
Gotta come up with a new joke.
joe rogan
That's the worst when it's almost all comics in the room and just a couple audience members, but the comics have all seen your shit before.
ari shaffir
You can't even do the tagline.
We're not going with you for seven minutes for your one new bit.
joe rogan
Yeah, your barely new tagline.
It's just a better version of an old tagline.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you can't do it.
joe rogan
You see my new tagline?
It's not really, it's just better.
It's not that new.
I've seen your act a hundred times.
ari shaffir
Just riffing up there.
joe rogan
That's the worst though when there's no one in the audience that's beaten down and tired and you know there's more comics in the audience than the audience is.
So Shanghai's just emerging.
ari shaffir
And they have a city outside, like a 40 minute bullet train outside there called Suzhou that had this real small town feel.
10 million people.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
A small town feel?
ari shaffir
Everything closed early.
joe rogan
That's insane.
10 million people and everything closed early.
So is it like Chicago sized?
ari shaffir
10 million.
That's bigger than Manhattan.
Shanghai.
I mean Suzhou.
Suzhou.
joe rogan
When they say Manhattan, do they just mean only the island?
ari shaffir
Yeah, we're not talking about the actual full city.
joe rogan
Do they ever actually say that, or do they say New York City?
ari shaffir
The Triboroughs or something?
Is that?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
I don't know what New York City means.
joe rogan
The Five Boroughs.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not Triborough.
It's Five Boroughs, right?
It's Long Island, Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island, Manhattan.
ari shaffir
There's a Triborough Bridge.
joe rogan
Is that it?
ari shaffir
Yeah, maybe.
joe rogan
Is that how you say it?
I don't know what the fuck they want.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
But I never know if they're just talking about only the island of Manhattan or the surrounding boroughs.
ari shaffir
Oh, right.
Or Greater New York.
joe rogan
Like when someone says New York City, the Bronx is New York City.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Van Nuys is part of LA. Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It shouldn't have to be in like just there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Sort of.
It's sort of the same kind of thing.
ari shaffir
But if you picture just Manhattan, this is bigger than that.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
That's also a lot of people.
joe rogan
I remember the first time I came to Manhattan.
I was driving from Boston.
I think I'd been there once before for a karate tournament, but I was like 16, and I didn't really remember it that much, and somebody else was driving.
It was like one of those experiences.
I was really young.
So I was there for comedy, and the first time I drove, I drove up the West Side Highway.
That was the first time I ever saw the skyline.
It was just pretty dramatic on the West Side Highway.
He looked like the Death Star.
I was like, this is the craziest thing I've ever...
I was so intimidated.
ari shaffir
It's pretty big.
joe rogan
So intimidated.
ari shaffir
It's pretty overwhelming.
joe rogan
I was like, I can't believe how big this city is.
It's insane.
ari shaffir
When I got back after three weeks, I was like, oh yeah.
joe rogan
I was like, fuck.
It's immense.
All those buildings.
It's immense.
It's just insanity.
Did you feel that when you were in China?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which places?
ari shaffir
In Suzhou too.
They needed a financial district.
And so they had these rice paddies right across the field.
20 years ago, all rice paddies.
And they were like, let's make a financial district.
And now there's 50 skyscrapers.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
They just do it.
joe rogan
They just filled them in?
ari shaffir
They don't have to vote.
They don't have to do referendums.
They don't have to wait until it's an election year to show they're doing anything.
joe rogan
Did you go into any of those cities that were crazy polluted?
ari shaffir
Shanghai.
joe rogan
How bad?
ari shaffir
It's bad.
It's bad.
Now, I wasn't there one of the awful days where Des Bishop, the Irish guy in Beijing, is not as bad as Shanghai, but still real bad.
He says, I mean, everywhere wears masks.
Tons of people wear masks.
Not everyone.
40% of the people wear masks.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
They see what they, everyone has an app on their phone for pollution.
And so I was in the unhealthy range pretty much while I was there.
But if it gets worse than that, he goes, you wake up in the morning and it felt like you smoked all night.
joe rogan
So the app recognizes the air or tells you what the forecast?
ari shaffir
Tells you what the air quality is.
So then they won't bike to work if it's real bad.
joe rogan
They'll take a bus.
Motherfucker.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
So you have these tissue papers they give you that everyone has at all times.
To wipe their hands down?
Yeah, because after SARS, everyone started wearing...
People are concerned with spreading it to others, too.
So there's no spitting allowed anymore.
joe rogan
Do you know that there's a spread of MERS that's going on now?
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, they have signs up for that at every train station.
They're like, do not bring anything else in.
Don't bring your fucking chickens in.
joe rogan
Yep.
Livestock.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And people kiss their livestock sometimes.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Dudes kiss their camels.
Trying to get guys to stop kissing their camels.
ari shaffir
Guys, people are dying.
Fuck your superstition.
joe rogan
Don't be kissing your camel anymore, okay?
ari shaffir
And then riding on a train.
joe rogan
Superstitious.
I mean, how long does it take for some of the more ridiculous...
The original origins for it were pretty smart.
Pretty smart to not eat pigs if all these people are dying and getting sick.
How long does it take before those just totally go away?
How long before we have no superstitions?
A hundred years?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
New ones will come in.
joe rogan
Do you think so?
ari shaffir
Throwing the salt over the shoulder, when did that come?
That's not, not everybody does.
joe rogan
Some asshole.
That's some asshole.
Yeah.
When do you think that ends?
500 years from now?
ari shaffir
Hopefully it'll be done by then.
God, hopefully.
joe rogan
It's got to happen, right?
It seems like we're moving that way.
ari shaffir
But it's natural to feel, like every time, I would do that growing up, I'd be like, I just believed in sudden superstitions that I thought of.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did that too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, we all did it.
It was like a thing.
joe rogan
Remember, do you ever do one of those things where if I step on this crack, my whole family might die?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
brian redban
My mom's back broke.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Or you try to avoid cracks for whatever reason, but then you really keep going.
It's like, why?
What are you doing?
joe rogan
Well, when you're confused about the nature of reality, you think it's very mystical.
ari shaffir
Maybe this is how you control it.
Like, no.
That's not how you control it.
joe rogan
Well, I've always wondered if the real origins for superstitions like that in children are that children have a more honest awareness of the nature of reality itself, is that it's malleable, and the things you can alter The way things go, but you think about it in stupid ways, like stepping on a crack.
ari shaffir
Right.
joe rogan
But it might be the way you act or think or behave, and you feel that, you sense it, but you can't sort of communicate it correctly.
ari shaffir
Can't process the thoughts.
joe rogan
Can't process it, can't put it into context, so instead you worry about stepping on cracks and breaking people's backs.
You feel the sense that you have some sort of a weird ability to affect and change your destiny based on decisions that you make.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
brian redban
When the cat goes across the street in front of you, do you still get at least plus one?
ari shaffir
Yeah, you think about it.
brian redban
Ladder?
Ladder?
ari shaffir
When I see a ladder, I'll usually move around it the other way instead of like, what the fuck does this matter?
joe rogan
Well, here's a perfect example of that.
I was kind of superstitious when I was a kid, but I've always loved cats, and I've always had cats, and I've always had black cats, so I never give a fuck about black cats.
So when a black cat would go across the street, I would never think, oh my god, I'm fucked.
I'd be like, fuck you.
That's a cat.
It's just a cat, man.
Give that cat a little bowl of tuna fish and pet it.
Be purring.
It's just a cat.
ari shaffir
A lot of straight cats in Beijing.
joe rogan
Bad luck.
He's a fucking animal.
He's having a good time.
Sitting alone.
brian redban
Southern white guy made that...
Probably about the black cat.
It's probably some racist shit.
joe rogan
I think it's just a fear thing.
I think people are afraid.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's witches.
It represents witches, right?
Black cats.
joe rogan
It's cursed.
We're scared of what we can't see.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some fucking glowing eyes running across the road in front of your car?
Because it's about a car, right?
Isn't it?
ari shaffir
What?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Black cat crosses your path.
You're on a bicycle.
What do you want?
ari shaffir
No.
Walking.
You're just walking.
brian redban
Anytime they're walking in front of you.
joe rogan
That too?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was thinking of his cars.
ari shaffir
There's an old Disney thing with a superstitious guy.
He has one of those umbrella canes.
joe rogan
That's right.
ari shaffir
And he moves the cat backwards so it won't.
joe rogan
So even walking.
Do you think that's when it was created?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I think it was created then for walking days.
joe rogan
Maybe horses would freak out and they'd see a cat run across them and people fell.
ari shaffir
Very possibly.
And it bled into the shadows so it just saw something moving.
joe rogan
And people fell and got fucked up.
You figured it out.
unidentified
Fact.
joe rogan
Could be it.
Or you could shit your pants and fall on your rake.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you fucking die because you don't know what staph infection is back then.
ari shaffir
That's another way to die.
Dude.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
What?
ari shaffir
I saw a guy first day.
joe rogan
Whenever someone says dude, you got to give him the floor.
ari shaffir
He had this leg that had purple from like just below the knee all the way.
And this guy was taking me around.
I was like, don't look.
And I started to not look.
I'm like, how am I not going to look?
I'm just starting here.
It was a purple ring about that big.
And inside the purple ring was like a yellow ring.
And then inside that was like a little bone.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
So he's just eating him up.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I mean, their homeless are legit.
unidentified
Whoa.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
They don't have to say anything.
They just let their fucking...
They show it.
They don't tell it.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
But they don't have much homeless.
That was the only guy I ever saw in Shanghai that was homeless.
joe rogan
He's got a legit excuse.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
The leg is wasting away.
What are you doing?
He ain't going to make it.
He's probably already dead.
joe rogan
Did you have a newfound appreciation for America when you re-landed?
And are you ready to say a Pledge of Allegiance right now?
ari shaffir
I'll tell you what, man.
There were some things where I felt a lot more free.
In China?
You can buy a beer and walk down the street and drink it like a man.
joe rogan
You can do that in New Orleans.
Go to New Orleans.
You can be a man in New Orleans.
unidentified
Vegas.
joe rogan
Not really in Vegas.
ari shaffir
You can smoke a joint, too.
joe rogan
I think outside.
Don't they stop you outside?
brian redban
No, you can walk around in Vegas.
joe rogan
Vegas, come on!
It's 40 minutes away from fucking Burbank.
ari shaffir
This place is nice, but it's not a safe.
joe rogan
It's not a safe.
ari shaffir
Smoke a joint, they don't know what weed smells like.
The cops have no reference point.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
ari shaffir
They have no reference point.
They don't know what it smells like.
joe rogan
Now I just solved the whole puzzle.
ari shaffir
They don't know what it even smells like.
joe rogan
The country's confused as fuck.
Did you imagine they've kept weed from the whole country?
ari shaffir
There's so little of it.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's amazing.
What would happen if weed spread through that country like wildfire?
ari shaffir
You can get it.
People have it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but what would happen if weed spread through that country like wildfire?
If Ari Shafir became a weed evangelist for China?
ari shaffir
And got it going.
joe rogan
But not there.
Don't go there.
Do it all through email.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.
Petition.
joe rogan
They'll fucking get you, dude.
They'll get you.
Don't test them.
They're going to fight tooth and nail to keep their silly cultures.
Keep kissing their camels and shit.
brian redban
They'll throw you in a hole for like ever.
joe rogan
Kissing their fucking camels, man.
ari shaffir
Their kids shit in the streets.
joe rogan
Murs.
Their kids shit in the streets?
ari shaffir
Their pants are cut down the middle, so that allows them to.
joe rogan
Oh my god, no way.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they have these loose shorts, like skorts.
joe rogan
No way.
ari shaffir
And then if they're squatting, you can just see their little dicks.
And they train their kids.
I saw one of them in a market.
She was motioning to them.
You can tell what motions are, you know?
Things are universal.
And the kid kept looking back confused.
He goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, do it.
And he pulled his pants down.
She goes, yeah!
And then he just pissed in the street.
He said, finally!
Wow.
joe rogan
Did you see anybody shit in the street?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
You only saw him piss.
brian redban
It had to smell like shit.
ari shaffir
But they had to cut all the way to the back.
They're just allowed to shit.
brian redban
That stink?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
The bathroom smells so bad.
The bathroom smells so bad from pollution.
I think it's just from polluted water.
joe rogan
Just polluted water makes it smell bad?
ari shaffir
And also, they don't...
joe rogan
They don't what?
You can't even say it.
No, look at him.
brian redban
He just died thinking about it.
ari shaffir
They have a lot of toilets, but there's just no toilet.
brian redban
It's just a hole?
ari shaffir
It's just a porcelain hole.
joe rogan
It's a shy one.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you have to squat?
ari shaffir
You have to squat.
joe rogan
Supposedly, that's better for your bowels.
ari shaffir
Supposedly.
unidentified
That face!
That face!
Supposedly.
ari shaffir
I was in the Forbidden City.
I was walking around there.
The Emperor's Palace.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And I got bad diarrhea.
It was bad.
Like, sweating.
Like, I gotta fuck.
And then there's a picture toilet.
You go in there.
And you fucking run.
As soon as you cross the threshold of the bathroom, it smells horrible.
And you open up the first stall door, and your mind can't even register at first.
Like, this must be under construction.
brian redban
Oh, no.
ari shaffir
Because there's no toilet here, so that's the only explanation.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
ari shaffir
And then you go to the next one, and you're like, what?
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
ari shaffir
Is there paper?
unidentified
No.
ari shaffir
There's no paper.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
You watch with your hand?
ari shaffir
Well, first I just said, I'm not doing this.
I walked away.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
ari shaffir
I took like two steps out of the bathroom and I was like, oh yeah, diarrhea.
What do you mean I'm not doing it?
Of course I'm doing it.
joe rogan
So you went back in and washed your butt?
Is that what you have to do?
unidentified
No.
ari shaffir
So this guy who owned the bar, the club was in Shanghai, gave me this tissue packet.
And he goes, you'll need it.
I thought it was for pollution.
And he goes, you'll need this.
And I just had it.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And then it was like, oh, yeah.
You got to pull your pants all the way down, squat over it, but also try not to shit into your pants.
You can't go over the balls of your feet.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
ari shaffir
There's probably a better way.
joe rogan
What do you do with explosive diarrhea, though?
It seems like you're going to miss.
ari shaffir
Blast it into that hole.
You're going to hover over that hole.
You're like half a foot over the hole.
joe rogan
Is that good for your quads?
ari shaffir
It's good for your core.
joe rogan
I would feel like that would really work your core a lot.
ari shaffir
And there's no air conditioning.
It's so hot.
joe rogan
That would work your resolve.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's why the H's are thin.
Maybe it's not the low-sugar diet.
brian redban
Does the shit hit your foot?
Hit your ankles though?
unidentified
No.
brian redban
Because I have explosive diarrhea.
It feels like I'm just going to hit my feet.
ari shaffir
Picture this.
Picture this.
I'm down.
joe rogan
Okay.
Ari's squatting right now.
ari shaffir
So like your ass is right...
joe rogan
Over the hole.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Filling the hole essentially.
ari shaffir
Your feet, if you're moved far enough away...
joe rogan
What do you do if you have bad knees?
unidentified
Ow!
ari shaffir
You do after that.
Everyone has it after that.
joe rogan
But I sit like that all the time.
ari shaffir
That's how Asians just squat, eat all the time.
joe rogan
I do that sometimes.
ari shaffir
Really?
I'll sit out in my yard like that.
Yeah, sure.
Once in a while.
joe rogan
It's good for your back.
brian redban
This just happened last week in China in one of those toilets.
Somebody dropped their brand new phone in the toilet, and so the husband went to go in there and grab it, but he passed out because of the fumes, and then the woman tried to grab the guy out.
ari shaffir
She passed out?
brian redban
She passed out.
Two people died, three injured.
ari shaffir
That's like that scene in Stand By Me where they're all barfing.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
We have it so good in America.
Dick Cheney's right.
ari shaffir
They have those shitters on the train when it's moving around and stuff.
They have those shitters.
joe rogan
Dick Cheney's right.
ari shaffir
I opened up my tissue packet.
What?
What did he say?
joe rogan
Right.
We're the best.
brian redban
It sounds like at first I was kind of jealous, but now I don't want to.
You would never even go there.
ari shaffir
They have someplace where there's real toilets.
Like in the hotels, it was fine.
In the bars, it's fine.
But like in a lot of places, you just don't know.
It's going to be one of those.
And then it's like six or seven tissues in there.
So suddenly you got a budget.
brian redban
Prostitutes?
Hot chicks?
How was that part of it?
Did you see any of it?
ari shaffir
There were prostitutes in...
I went to the area in Hong Kong.
I didn't get any.
brian redban
Right.
ari shaffir
But I went to the area in Hong Kong.
They grab at you.
brian redban
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
They watch your business.
Now, a couple of them were hot.
A lot of them were just like older Chinese ladies that look weathered.
joe rogan
Oof.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
Oof.
ari shaffir
Here's something interesting.
Hong Kong...
They don't call it China.
You gotta use your visa to go between them.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Even though it's been given back.
It hasn't been fully given back yet.
joe rogan
It used to be English.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
For a hundred years.
joe rogan
How did they give it back?
How did they let that happen?
ari shaffir
How did what?
joe rogan
They gave it back.
ari shaffir
They said that we'd get it for 150 years.
joe rogan
Imagine if Puerto Ricans asked for Puerto Rico back.
We'd be like, no.
ari shaffir
No way.
But that was always the deal.
joe rogan
We want Hawaii back.
They've wanted Hawaii back forever.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
No.
You're not getting that back.
joe rogan
We want to take Alaska.
No.
Alaska should be its own country.
ari shaffir
But at this point, if Britain was like, no, you don't get it back, China's like, you really want to do this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Because if you want to go, we'll go.
joe rogan
We'll go.
We'll go in a crazy way.
ari shaffir
We signed a contract.
We'll abide by that.
But it's time.
unidentified
We're not going to lose faith.
ari shaffir
But all the Hong Kong people, they look at the mainlanders.
Mainlanders are like an insult.
They look at them as like the garbage people.
Really?
Yeah.
They all shit in malls.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
And they carry fucking raw turkeys in their bags when they go.
All the meres, that's all them.
unidentified
Whoa.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
They view them as like real underlings.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I was told that it was racist against other Chinese.
But I was like, no way.
How can it be?
I was like, wow, you're right.
joe rogan
Deeply.
ari shaffir
Deeply.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
Like the north, but think of like the south, but way worse than that.
joe rogan
Whoa.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But I'll tell you what, if someone shit in a mall, it was a mainlander.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
It doesn't mean they're all like that, but that's...
That thinking comes from there.
joe rogan
Well, it seems like their reality is just far more sparse, right?
There's far, far fewer resources.
There's too many people.
ari shaffir
I don't know about that.
joe rogan
Well, what is it that's causing them to behave in such a...
ari shaffir
Well, they had a lot of revolution in the last, like, not that many years.
Like, the old people, they walk around.
Like, you know that walk where they put your hand behind your back and clasp it and just, like, stroll?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
They're like, none of my friends are getting shot in the face, you know, at a firing squad.
Like, they've lived through some, like, bad times.
joe rogan
So they're calm.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're like, we're safe.
joe rogan
Or they're baiting you with a Kimura.
Trying to bait you.
ari shaffir
Trying to get you to go into it.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you go to that Kimura, a lot of guys have good defense.
And they know that.
Set up that far side arm bar if you don't control the body.
They'll just trip you, get you to the ground.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I don't know what that is.
I don't know what it is.
Hong Kong's pretty built up too.
joe rogan
Hmm.
That's fascinating.
ari shaffir
They're all bankers.
It's the English influence.
joe rogan
So the English influence, was it...
ari shaffir
They drive on the other side of the street.
joe rogan
They drive like English.
And China drives like us?
ari shaffir
Yeah, except...
joe rogan
They don't drive like us.
ari shaffir
They're pedestrians.
I mean, it's like, if you're crossing a street like this, and you know they're making a right turn, if they see a hole big enough for their car, they're taking it.
Those mopeds are shooting in and out through traffic, through like pedestrians.
joe rogan
How many people get hit?
ari shaffir
They said tons all the time.
I didn't see any, but they say tons.
unidentified
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Did you walk across that shit?
ari shaffir
Oh, all the time.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
And you have to just keep walking and know, you see me, you're gonna move.
Or you see my angle.
You want to, like, stop and throw it off.
joe rogan
So you gotta, like, give them timing.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you just gotta go at the same pace.
joe rogan
You don't just trust them and not hit.
You gotta trust their timing.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're like, they see where you are.
I see where you're not gonna be in, like, two seconds.
I'll go where you are now.
Don't stop walking in the middle of the street.
joe rogan
Do they text in characters while they're driving like that?
Could you imagine?
Their texting must be so much more complicated than ours.
They're drawing little pictures.
ari shaffir
They do text in characters.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
So they text in characters and they drive like that.
ari shaffir
And they all, at night, especially the cab drivers, To save battery, they'll turn off their lights.
They'll drive without their lights.
Oh my god.
They drive without their lights.
And all but the darkest, cloudiest nights.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's the scariest thing I've ever heard in my life.
ari shaffir
Like it's in the city, you can pretty much see.
joe rogan
And you're just walking across the street and you have to hope that they can see you well enough to time you.
ari shaffir
They have such bad ideas about it.
They'll turn off their motor at red lights because they think that saves gas.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
Well, it does.
ari shaffir
Not to turn it on over and over again.
joe rogan
No, it doesn't.
ari shaffir
On a Prius?
joe rogan
No, it's a new feature on a lot of cars.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
They shut off at stoplights.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Porsches have it.
ari shaffir
And doesn't that take the most gases to start up again?
joe rogan
No.
It's like an instant start up again.
The engine goes into some sort of sustained hibernation or some shit, but it essentially shuts the engine off.
It's an option, though.
You can turn it off or on.
And it's how they beat emission standards.
Wow.
ari shaffir
So over time, maybe for every five minutes we're worse, but over ten minutes we're better.
joe rogan
If you read those things where it says what's the miles per gallon that a car gets, that's only driving a really sane, calm person.
It doesn't take any risks.
You're driving like super slow.
You're observing the speed limit.
You slowly accelerate up to whatever speed you want to go to.
ari shaffir
Look at that.
unidentified
Look at that.
ari shaffir
That's how they cross the street.
joe rogan
That is fucking insane.
ari shaffir
That's how you just have to cross the street.
joe rogan
That is fucking insane.
ari shaffir
He's on a crosswalk.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that is fucking insane.
ari shaffir
They're just like, man, those are just white paint on a road.
That's got nothing to do with me.
unidentified
That is fucking insane.
joe rogan
It's hard to watch.
I get anxiety.
ari shaffir
So many of those mopeds, too.
I rode one of those fucking drunk late at night.
joe rogan
If those hit you, that would suck hard, too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they hit.
They're solid.
joe rogan
Did you come close at all?
Did anybody come close to hitting you?
ari shaffir
No, I mean, I didn't skim one at all, but I could feel the breeze go by.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
ari shaffir
Definitely.
joe rogan
Damn.
What was your favorite place?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
Hong Kong was a lot of fun.
Shanghai was a lot of fun, too.
brian redban
Is Hong Kong better air?
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, it's cleaner, definitely.
We went on a junk boat in Hong Kong the day before I left, the day before the last day, and just jumped off into the bay and stuff.
It was fucking awesome.
joe rogan
So it was essentially just different, but both cool?
ari shaffir
Yeah, both cool.
Fucking swam.
It's a perfect mix of beer, Thai food, a little bit of acid, and just fucking jellyfish came up at some point.
joe rogan
And you went in the ocean?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
High food, beer, and acid.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And jellyfish.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the jellyfish came in and it got a little more dangerous, but we just kept jumping in.
joe rogan
And if jellyfish get you, you're fucked?
ari shaffir
You're just in a lot of pain for two days.
joe rogan
Two days?
brian redban
And you'll be scarred even.
My ex had it on her neck and it was just this huge burn.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Well, they teach them how to get it out.
You gotta take a credit card and scrape it out.
joe rogan
It's the hottest pot loads.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's the hottest pot loads.
brian redban
They said it was gonna last like six months.
joe rogan
That's what loads do.
They burn you for about six months.
They mark you up.
Nobody else can get you.
ari shaffir
They don't swim real fast, though.
Loads?
No.
Loads go fast.
joe rogan
Mine go fast, bro.
Mine are like sprinters.
You don't know.
You don't know my jigs.
There's one in Australia that kills people on a regular basis.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it kills people.
They have these emergency stations that they have set up on the beach where they have these giant jugs of vinegar.
Just in case.
Yeah, you pour it on, like, maybe they let go.
ari shaffir
It's disinfectant or something?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I think, I should probably Google that.
ari shaffir
There's one comic, Sean got stung the year before.
unidentified
Yeah, in Australia?
ari shaffir
And they said they had to pee in a cup and then pour it over it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but then they said they found out later that's not the way to, that's actually not a thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, Australia has a lot of shit.
ari shaffir
No, this isn't China.
Really?
Yeah.
joe rogan
How far away is China from Australia?
ari shaffir
It's not that far.
It's not as far as we are from Australia, I don't think.
From Sydney.
I think they're closer to Sydney than we are.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're south, but like straight down south.
There's a ton of Asians in Australia.
joe rogan
There's a box jellyfish.
It's no bigger than your fingernail and it can kill you.
ari shaffir
That's hard to spot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Even when you haven't bitten your nails lately.
joe rogan
No bigger than your fingernail and it can kill you.
ari shaffir
I gotta pee real bad.
joe rogan
Go pee.
I'm freaking out about a box jellyfish.
Size of a fucking matchstick.
Look at that shit.
Look at that shit.
Brian, pull that shit up.
Box jellyfish.
Just pull up.
Box jellyfish no bigger than your fingernail can kill you.
In the blink of an eye, by the way.
Motherfucker.
Just when I was starting to relax.
unidentified
Where's this live?
brian redban
Is it really rare?
joe rogan
Australia, man.
brian redban
Wow, look at that.
joe rogan
Look at that shit.
That's how big that is.
Size of a goddamn fingernail and it can kill you in seconds.
That is not cool.
Upon further research, this itty-bitty jelly...
It's so cute that it might kill you.
No, really.
And not from the sheer adorableness of it, but from its insanely poisonous sting.
The species box jellyfish was described as recently as 2007. Wow.
So they didn't know about it?
The species of box jellyfish was described as recently as 2007. After a 44-year-old American tourist, of course, by the name of Robert King, was swimming in Australia waters and encounter...
This minute box jellyfish.
He was stung and died soon after.
That's where the name of Common Kingslayer comes from.
After Robert King.
That's the guy's name.
Wow.
They called this fucking jellyfish a kingslayer because it killed this guy named Robert King.
They didn't know about this jellyfish until 2007. So this guy got stung.
He died from a tiny jellyfish they didn't even know about.
ari shaffir
They came to spot it?
joe rogan
It's the size of your fingernails.
Look at the images of it.
Brian, pull up some of the images.
There's some of them where they have one in a little tiny test tube.
Where in Australia?
All over Australia, especially Sydney.
ari shaffir
And he just died?
joe rogan
I don't know where it is, man.
I'm just making shit up.
ari shaffir
Oh.
joe rogan
But it's in Australia somewhere.
unidentified
Especially Sydney, because that's where someone might be.
joe rogan
Look at the size of that.
You see how tiny it is?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That thing can kill you.
And it didn't kill a guy until 2007, and so they decided to call it the Common Kingslayer.
That's what it's called now.
That's pretty wild, because it killed that guy named Robert King.
ari shaffir
It didn't kill anyone until then?
joe rogan
Nope.
ari shaffir
They didn't even know about it.
joe rogan
They never knew about it.
unidentified
This is from a box jellyfish.
joe rogan
Motherfucker!
ari shaffir
That's a lot of stings.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
ari shaffir
They said this one girl, it wrapped around.
It didn't just sting you once.
It wrapped around and held on.
And then all the things, all the barbs are going into you.
joe rogan
Well, this is a type of box jellyfish.
They've known about box jellyfishes for a while.
But this type of box jellyfish, the common kingslayer, was discovered as recently, first described as recently as 2007. Wow.
So they didn't know about it until this guy got fucked up by it.
ari shaffir
Oh, is it on him?
brian redban
Yeah, Steve went to this beach where there's just tons of jellyfish and he just started putting them on his head.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Yeah, it's a great video.
Check it out.
joe rogan
How does he know which ones they are?
ari shaffir
That fucking guy.
That wild man guy.
They would tell him all the time.
What was his name?
The old man?
unidentified
Manny.
ari shaffir
Manny, yeah.
Manny was cool.
joe rogan
Did Steve-O actually put like a poisonous jellyfish on him?
brian redban
Oh, he got stung from it, yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
But not like that guy that got stung by the box jellyfish.
brian redban
Not the box jellyfish, not poison jellyfish.
ari shaffir
They took chances in that show.
joe rogan
That is so weird, man.
It's so weird that these things exist that can kill you so easily.
ari shaffir
Oh.
joe rogan
That's so weird.
It's just weird that these things exist that have venom in them.
You know?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no anti-venom for box jellyfish.
For these box jellyfish, little tiny ones.
ari shaffir
There's none.
joe rogan
Only symptoms can be treated, which can last from hours to weeks.
Weeks of symptoms.
If you live.
Motherfucker.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You're going to be researching jellyfish for the next month.
joe rogan
This is crazy.
This is really funny.
Part of this is what it does to you.
This is really interesting.
The severe symptoms don't breathe their ugly heads until about 5 to 120 minutes.
30 minutes on average.
Some syndrome.
It's characterized by severe pains at various parts of the body, typically excruciating muscle cramps in the arms and legs, severe pain in the back and kidneys, a burning sensation of the skin and face, headaches, nausea, restlessness, sweating, vomiting, increase in heart rate and blood pressure, and last but certainly not least, increase in heart rate and blood pressure, and last but certainly not least, a psychological phenomenon which consists of the feeling home.
Well, it sounds like with all that other shit, of course you would think that you're dying.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it does.
It does sound like that.
joe rogan
How is that even like an additional symptom?
ari shaffir
Is it a separate thing?
joe rogan
It's not.
You're dying, man.
You're getting jacked.
Think about all that shit.
Severe pain, excruciating muscle cramps, severe pain in back and kidneys, burning sensation of skin and face, headaches, nausea.
You're dying.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
Vomiting.
joe rogan
You're fucking dying.
Who wouldn't?
You'd have to be the cockiest motherfucker ever to be like, yeah, we'll walk this off.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bro, these fucking box jellyfish ain't killing me, dude.
This is like a cold.
ari shaffir
My grandfather swam here every day.
He didn't get no box jellyfish thing.
joe rogan
This is incredible.
It's scary as fuck that nature creates these little things like that.
They can just jack you.
unidentified
Just jack you.
ari shaffir
And probably some goldfish can eat it fine, not get in trouble at all.
joe rogan
Probably feeds off of it, right?
It's probably some shitty bird that comes down.
ari shaffir
We did see a fish eating at one of them, and it was trying to get out of there, so we'd have to dive.
joe rogan
A jellyfish?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So fish do eat jellyfish.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it has to be what they created.
I mean, they must have created this toxin to avoid predation.
That's a good question.
unidentified
Soul.
ari shaffir
They serve jellyfish.
They serve jellyfish in some of the restaurants.
joe rogan
You eat it?
They serve it?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I didn't get any.
I was getting other stuff.
joe rogan
Can we play the Steve-O video or would that get us yanked from YouTube?
Probably get yanked from YouTube.
Steve-O wouldn't do that to us.
Who owns the Steve-O footage though?
unidentified
Steve-O does.
brian redban
He'll be happy if he shows up.
joe rogan
Yeah?
Okay.
Let's show it then.
I want to see him get fucked up.
Did you ever see the video of Steve-O when he's up in a tree and lions come up to him?
ari shaffir
Swiping and barely missing his butt?
joe rogan
No, they swat his hat.
They took his hat.
He had like one of those Mexican farm worker hats, you know, those straw hats those dudes like to wear, and he's up in this tree, and this lion runs up to him in the tree.
Just runs up the tree, he's checking him out, a female lion, and she like bites his hat.
She doesn't bite him, she bites his hat, and he's like stuck up there in the tree.
It is the most terrifying thing anybody that I've ever met has ever done.
ari shaffir
God.
Was that the guy who died, his buddy from that show, Wild Boys?
joe rogan
Steve O's alive.
ari shaffir
No, the other guy in Wild Boys.
That's what killed him.
joe rogan
No, the guy who died in a car crash was one of the guys from the other show.
Yeah, it wasn't from Wild Boys.
He died speeding, drunk, in a Porsche.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's a lame word.
joe rogan
Not from all that other crazy shit.
ari shaffir
Not from all the other crazy stuff, but the chances.
joe rogan
I mean, they just, those guys just every day would risk their lives.
I mean, that was, Johnny Knoxville was a goddamn movie star, and he's putting a bandana over his eyes and letting a bull throw him through the air.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is the nuttiest fucking shit.
ari shaffir
So you talk about the best comedies, you're like, oh, what are there any good comedies?
You may have mentioned three or four.
All three of those jackasses were fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Tremendous.
ari shaffir
Awesome.
Just laughs every 10 seconds.
joe rogan
Did you see the new one with the old man?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
What is it called?
brian redban
Bad Grandpa.
joe rogan
Bad Grandpa?
Goddamn, that's funny.
brian redban
There's the unedited version.
If you haven't seen it yet, it's like the 2.0 or whatever version.
Check it out.
It's even more worse.
joe rogan
I couldn't even imagine it could be better.
That movie was really funny.
Like, there's some really, really funny scenes in that movie.
ari shaffir
The grandpa stuff they did in Jackass was awesome.
joe rogan
He's awesome.
Johnny Knoxville is so good.
ari shaffir
He was riding that rocket and that thing went off and blew a hole through the metal rocket right by his head.
He's like, whoa, that was so close.
I would have been gone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Could you imagine if that's how he died?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Rocket to the fucking head.
ari shaffir
Johnny Knoxville filming a stunt and everyone would be like, oh, yeah, of course.
Why hasn't that happened before?
joe rogan
What is it about dudes who want that feeling, that rush of getting right up to the edge?
Because those guys get right up to the edge.
But Steve-O backed off a lot, right?
Got off the drugs.
brian redban
He's completely sober, which is awesome.
I talked to him like six months ago.
I saw him in San Diego and he had a sex addiction.
That he was trying to get off of.
joe rogan
Why are you throwing him under the bus?
brian redban
No, because I think he talks about it.
Maybe.
But then this last time I saw him, just a month ago, I went down again to see him, and he had a guy that came with him to make sure he didn't make his sex addictions.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That guy's a joke.
Listen to me, Steve-O. I'm going to tell you something right now.
A guy like you is supposed to have a sex addiction.
ari shaffir
I've cock-blocked for the best.
joe rogan
Because if you, the amount of, that's his job.
I'm a cock blocker.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what I do.
My name is Johnny.
Johnny Runtanzi.
Cock blocker.
You got a sex addiction?
Don't worry.
ari shaffir
I'm gonna go a three-pronged effort.
I'm gonna mention your daughter in front of them.
I'm going to talk about your treatment and leave it blank.
joe rogan
The treatment's a big one.
And then I'm going to fuck her.
A guy like that, like he probably, I mean, he's a famous dude.
Steve O's a famous dude.
So I bet some really hot chicks launched themselves in his direction.
He's pretty goddamn famous.
And he's famous for being a wild man.
So really crazy bitches are probably attracted to him like a magnet to metal shavings.
unidentified
Like...
joe rogan
They start moving across the desk at him.
It's probably normal, right?
So, for a guy like that, the amount of love and sex he must be getting, or thrown in his direction, offered to him, must be pretty stunning.
ari shaffir
Must be high.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's probably, you know, he looks in the mirror, he knows what he looks like.
This doesn't even make sense.
ari shaffir
I may as well catch him while I can.
joe rogan
This is insane.
I have to take myself up on this opportunity.
Who else would?
ari shaffir
Why wouldn't you?
joe rogan
No one else gets that shot.
No one, I mean, only one guy gets to be Steve-O. Yeah.
You know, I said that to you once.
I remember that because it struck with me, too, as I said it.
We were talking about comedy.
We were talking about creating, like, when someone's a fan of yours.
The craziest thing is, like, if someone's an Ari Shafir fan, you're the only one that could give them Ari Shafir.
If they become an Ari Shafir fan, you're the only one who's doing Ari Shafir comedy.
That's it.
You're responsible.
You're responsible for that shit.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, I'm sure he feels the same way.
ari shaffir
Yeah, probably.
Wow.
joe rogan
There's only one Stevo, bro.
ari shaffir
Let me cash in.
joe rogan
Cash in!
ari shaffir
This girl's an ultimate fan of Stevo's.
Why would he not have sex with her?
joe rogan
Sex addiction nonsense.
Do you mean he has sex a lot and it's awesome?
Because that's what you're saying.
ari shaffir
Make Stevo alone.
Some Christian person going, you shouldn't do that so much.
joe rogan
But of course there are sex addictions.
Of course.
But there's everything addictions, right?
I mean, there's addictions to fucking washing your hands.
ari shaffir
If it's like he can't carry on with his day, so he can't get anything done, then it's like, I guess that's an addiction.
joe rogan
But isn't it parallel to what we were talking about earlier about the cigarettes that it becomes like a force of habit?
ari shaffir
Right.
joe rogan
It becomes a part of your life.
It becomes like a well-worn trail in your mind.
ari shaffir
But I like sex a lot.
But then if I've got work to do, if there's something I have to do, I'm like, I can't.
I've got to take care of this.
joe rogan
Well, you're not sick.
You don't have the sickness.
Some people like to call it no will.
Some people like to call it no discipline.
Not me.
I prefer illness.
Disease.
I want to take it completely out of your control.
Did we crash?
Yeah.
Oh, so we're off Ustream right now?
brian redban
No, no, no, no.
I mean the YouTube crashed.
unidentified
Oh, YouTube.
brian redban
This computer crashed over here.
joe rogan
But we're still on Ustream?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, I got a YouTube video to show you, by the way, that you could probably play.
brian redban
I guess the sex addiction thing, when it becomes a problem, is when you start spending money and we start being sloppy and having sex with no condoms with people in the streets.
ari shaffir
Or when you're doing things you don't want to do.
joe rogan
Or you really like doing that and it's way better than not doing that.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's one of the things that I don't buy.
ari shaffir
I think it's when you look at yourself later and go, fuck, I don't want to do that.
Why can't I stop doing that?
joe rogan
And that's everything.
That's beating off, that's using Q-tips, that's fucking biting your fingernails.
People get weird.
We're weird.
ari shaffir
I saw this guy, somebody was talking about losing a bunch of weight, some comic at a barbecue, and this other fatter comic, he was talking about eating natural chips and stuff instead of processed stuff.
And the fatter guy's like, man, Lewis, you've got to show me how to lose weight as he's eating the chips.
He goes, I just told you!
Just don't eat those things that you put in your mouth.
joe rogan
Yo, you gotta rewire my brain and make it awesome.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I gotta do it all the way for me.
joe rogan
I'm tired of having this lazy ass bitch ass brain.
That's a problem, man.
If people don't get their brains rewired in some way, shape, or form, if you're a lazy fuck, it's very difficult to wake up one day and go, I'm not going to be a lazy fuck.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard.
Yeah, if you don't get early going, I have lazy tendencies.
ari shaffir
Yeah, we all do.
joe rogan
And it's one of the reasons why I'm not lazy at all.
Because I'm terrified.
ari shaffir
Push against it.
joe rogan
I don't like it.
I don't like that part of me.
ari shaffir
That's why I don't have cable.
I know I could watch TV all day.
joe rogan
Good move.
I'm never getting rid of mine.
brian redban
Really?
joe rogan
I like coming home.
brian redban
I'm going right to internet.
joe rogan
I like, if I work, especially if I do a show, the show goes well, everything's great, I listen to set on the way home, I know the new bits I'm working on, I don't have a responsibility as far as writing, and I don't like to write too late at night.
ari shaffir
And then you watch cable when you get home.
joe rogan
Yeah, I write late at night, but only if I am home.
I don't go out and then come back and write, because I feel like I'm tired.
So I like to relax.
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
ari shaffir
Sit in front of TV. I'll download TV. I just won't have cable so I can have it all the time.
unidentified
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
ari shaffir
I'll still watch the shows I watch.
brian redban
Yeah, you could get everything now on Apple TV, Hulu, Netflix.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but then when it's done, you don't automatically, like, oh, this next show's started.
I guess I'm watching this now, too.
joe rogan
Can you get Cosmos?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Can you get, like, all the regular shows?
brian redban
Yeah, Cosmos on Netflix.
ari shaffir
The good rule of thumb is you can get anything that's ever been made.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
So if it's in that group...
You can pretty much get it.
joe rogan
So you don't need a TV anymore that's hooked up to cable.
You just need a good internet connection.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and a news server.
brian redban
The only bad thing that you'll run into is live local TV, which you can now find.
ari shaffir
Sports is a problem.
joe rogan
Go to a bar and see that.
That's the way to be seen.
ari shaffir
FirstRowSports.eu is fucking garbage.
It skips constantly and cuts out.
joe rogan
Today in Pasadena, a young man came home to find another man sleeping in his bed.
That fucking type of talk, that news type guy.
ari shaffir
What is that?
joe rogan
They have to die.
Not die, as in physically, but die off.
That business.
That fucking news business.
brian redban
Now with Chromecast, though, and Apple TV, you can just stream from your phone, like NBC.com, so you can watch the local news streamed to your Apple TV anyway, so it doesn't even matter.
joe rogan
Is there any bigger dinosaur in our culture than the local news show?
Is there any bigger dinosaur than the 5 o'clock news?
Today, President Obama met with Egypt.
You're not going to say shit.
ari shaffir
You're not going to say anything.
joe rogan
You're not going to say shit.
ari shaffir
We all know.
No, we don't all know.
joe rogan
You're in with the government.
You're not going to say shit.
On top of that, you've got three minutes.
You've got three minutes.
You've got to bounce around to five different things.
ari shaffir
You know what somebody pointed out that was so scary about the government?
You know how Bush was like, I can't let you show the caskets coming back?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And then Obama's like, okay, guys, we're going to stop that.
You're allowed to show them.
And now they just don't show them.
Out of just fear.
joe rogan
So the news just doesn't show them.
ari shaffir
They just don't on their own.
So whatever was told to them is like...
joe rogan
What do you think about all the shit that's going on in Iraq?
Do you know what's happening in Iraq?
Yeah.
Jihadists are taking over Iraq again.
ari shaffir
Yeah, as soon as we left.
joe rogan
How crazy is that?
ari shaffir
It was a vacuum that we made.
It's not our fights, man.
joe rogan
I know it's not our fights, but what a disaster.
ari shaffir
What a disaster.
We did nothing to help them.
joe rogan
What could you do?
Just stay there forever?
We're running shit now.
ari shaffir
No, and that's not what you want to be.
Then you're an occupying force.
That's the move.
joe rogan
Dick Cheney's right.
It's obviously the move.
You can't let the jihadists take it.
You want a jihadist state run by jihadists?
What about the children?
ari shaffir
I'll tell you one thing.
joe rogan
Please do.
ari shaffir
So they had this thing they were going to do in China.
They were going to put chips in one of the computers so that you couldn't go on VPNs.
So you couldn't go on the stuff they didn't allow.
And the people got really mad about it.
They were like, it's fucking ridiculous.
They didn't uprise, but they were all upset.
And the government was like, alright, alright, alright, we won't do it.
joe rogan
Whoa, they were worried.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Whereas here, that's just something we were going to do and not tell anyone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Until Snowden told us.
But that's just something we were...
They at least ran it by their people.
We were just going to do it in secrecy.
Force the companies to do exactly that.
joe rogan
Isn't that interesting when that happens?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
brian redban
Did you see that thing that...
ari shaffir
So when you talk about, like, ultimate freedoms, it's like, eh, I don't know.
I don't know which one's worse.
brian redban
Joe, you want to get really freaked out?
I just found this out by PDC. You know, you remember PD. If you go into your security on your...
Your privacy on your phone...
ari shaffir
Yeah.
brian redban
And then you go down to location services.
You click on location services.
Then you go all the way down to system services.
And then you go down to frequent locations.
Then it'll just say, like, it'll show your history.
And let's just say, we'll click on Los Angeles, nine locations recorded, and it's just showing locations that I've been in the last nine days, the exact address I've been in.
joe rogan
Like where you're driving around.
ari shaffir
Suzo, Jiangsu, one location.
brian redban
No, locations that I've hung out at, like I went to.
ari shaffir
Shanghai, New York, four locations.
joe rogan
Is it places where you stopped and made a call?
brian redban
No, where I stopped and it just shows that I wasn't driving anymore, like I hung out.
ari shaffir
It shows exact dots on a map of New York.
unidentified
That's crazy.
brian redban
It's like the exact map, the exact addresses of places I've been.
joe rogan
How do people not know about this?
ari shaffir
I'm just finding out about it on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.
joe rogan
Can you shut that off?
ari shaffir
Can you shut it off?
brian redban
You can turn it off.
And now what Apple is saying that you use it for is that it will automatically become smart.
Your maps are smart.
Maps are smart.
joe rogan
Not if you're running from the law.
brian redban
Yeah, right.
And that's why if you use different things like Google Home versus your trip to...
Pasadena Ice House right now is 20 minutes.
I'm like, why are you telling me this?
Have you seen that?
It's done shit like that.
It's the same thing.
It's just to improve maps and And things like that.
So that's why you can turn it off.
joe rogan
Unless the government gets a hold of it and finds out the warehouse where you're storing the drugs.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Right?
brian redban
Isn't that crazy, Ari?
ari shaffir
Where you're storing the drugs.
Oh, yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Well, if you're going to the drug house, don't bring your phone.
ari shaffir
Don't bring your phone.
Exactly.
joe rogan
Get a burner phone from 7-Eleven.
ari shaffir
Well, he stopped here four times.
Let's go check that out.
joe rogan
Get one of them flip phones from Ting.
ari shaffir
God, that's a good point.
brian redban
Here's all those jellyfish.
Check out how many are on the beach right here.
joe rogan
This is Steve-O. Sombrero!
ari shaffir
I hope I never did that.
joe rogan
Look at all those jellyfish.
ari shaffir
He's got to put a sombrero.
unidentified
It dangers my business, and business is good.
joe rogan
It dangers my business, and business is good.
He has so many jellyfish.
He's going to throw the jellyfish on his head.
Do you think that just feels weird or hurts?
brian redban
I don't know because if it's...
joe rogan
It's hurting.
ari shaffir
I think it probably just feels...
It looks like it just feels weird.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Oh my god, look at the size of that thing.
ari shaffir
Oh, he hit him with the tentacles.
brian redban
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
Oh, he's in pain.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Oh yeah, he's probably cut.
joe rogan
He's got it.
He's so crazy.
unidentified
He's putting on his back.
joe rogan
And then he's in agony, screaming and running.
Oh my god.
brian redban
Hands him back around fire.
joe rogan
Oh my god, he's just running around in agony.
What does it say afterwards?
unidentified
Nothing sucks on my channel, so subscribe here.
And if you haven't seen my incredible paparazzi prank I filmed with Okay, you can kill that.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, you just lost me, pal.
I loved you and then I hated you all in one video.
brian redban
YouTube Stevo.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
What a crazy guy.
unidentified
Well, he's a better man than I. Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not happening.
ari shaffir
He's just always willing to go for it.
The grossness and the snort of wasabi.
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck all that, man.
This guy crazy.
I just can't imagine.
I can't imagine someone would actually want to do that.
That seems like a fucking terrible idea.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
But we watched it, so he wins.
Right?
He wins.
That's what his objective has achieved.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
It was cool.
It was worth watching.
By the way, my Storyteller show is recording September 9th and 8th.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
I started working on that story.
ari shaffir
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Nice.
joe rogan
I got that bitch tightened up now.
ari shaffir
Cool.
So far it's you, Diaz, Big J, Kreischer's in.
joe rogan
Nice.
ari shaffir
TJ Miller's in.
They're trying to get Joan Rivers to do it.
joe rogan
Oh, snap.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That'd be fun.
That'd be very cool.
Yeah.
That's interesting.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Going after a few cool people too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So, doing your show, man, that was really fun.
ari shaffir
Yeah?
You liked it?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Loved it.
I loved the setup that it was in Cheetahs, which is like a dingy strip club in LA. Yeah, you get this vibe just going into it.
ari shaffir
That's what we did in Montreal the first time.
We're doing it again this year, actually, in Montreal.
But it's upstairs in this tranny strip club.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
So you walk up the stairs, you just feel like darker.
And then no matter what's said, it's like, go for it.
I've already been anesthetized against this.
joe rogan
You're in a tranny strip club.
You're not allowed to say tranny anymore, by the way.
brian redban
Yeah, it's transgender.
unidentified
What?
Yep.
Yep.
joe rogan
It's like saying fag.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yep.
But you can still call cabbies.
ari shaffir
Cabbies?
joe rogan
Cab drivers?
ari shaffir
They're going to get upset now, too.
joe rogan
No, they're okay for now.
So we've got to use it up while we can.
In the future, it'll be one of those things where it's like, you know, like Tom Sawyer, they don't say...
You can't say Jew in the future.
The word nigger, they took it out of Tom Sawyer.
They took it out of Huckleberry Finn.
ari shaffir
I was just thinking about that.
That's the problem with people going, well, that's certainly certain lines.
That you shouldn't, people shouldn't listen to it.
I'm like, no, you just shouldn't listen to it.
Just turn it off.
Otherwise, you're like the exact same people that took out, that edited Huck Finn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And said, no, you can't have that book in there.
joe rogan
You can't edit that.
ari shaffir
I'm not saying you can't write what you write, but I'm allowed to go to the school board and try to get them to take it out of the libraries.
That's what you're doing when you contact the network and say, we want this band.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to reflect the time in an accurate way because it's not about...
You're pretending that people haven't evolved socially since the 1920s or whenever the fuck they made...
Was it 18-something that he made?
ari shaffir
Time and a place.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's part of being a human being is understanding that there's a constant series of...
Changes and people grow.
Cultures evolve.
We're seeing it in front of our own fucking eyes because of the internet.
We're seeing blowback.
We're seeing people get super sensitive about shit they shouldn't get so sensitive about.
Other folks embrace it just because they want to be in and out of a fight and pick a side and look for the fat acceptance movement.
Fat acceptance.
ari shaffir
No, I'll fight that.
No, you're going to die.
I'm not going to accept that.
You're going to die early.
It is disgusting, and you smell.
joe rogan
Dude, you're so out of line.
ari shaffir
No, fuck that.
unidentified
What about fat acceptance?
ari shaffir
That's one of those where you're like, well, stop it.
Stop being like that.
What about what?
joe rogan
Fat acceptance.
ari shaffir
No, I do not accept it.
joe rogan
No!
No!
You're so angry.
ari shaffir
It's not even in a My Day thing.
It's gross, and you're going to die.
It's clearly unhealthy.
Stop being gross.
joe rogan
But isn't that another thing?
Just like a sex addiction or a gambling addiction, it's a food addiction.
I don't care what anybody says about- It fringes in the eyes of others.
It does a little bit sometimes.
On a plane, it does.
But what anybody says about the causes of it, for sure, some people have a faster metabolism.
For sure, some people can get away with eating anything.
We all know dudes who can just eat anything and they never get fat.
ari shaffir
I'm close to one of those.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But we also know that if they staple your stomach, what are they doing?
They're making your stomach smaller.
That means you're taking less food.
That's it.
So it's a willpower thing.
ari shaffir
If you start taking less, you'll need less to fill up.
joe rogan
This motherfucker did it.
He lost 80 pounds.
ari shaffir
Brian?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Brian lost 80 pounds.
brian redban
And I gained back most of it.
joe rogan
But he lost 80 pounds.
Same thing with Joey Diaz.
Joey Diaz lost 80 pounds.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He gained back...
67. Somewhere in...
I don't know.
I don't know.
But the idea is that if you could just get it off and keep it off.
Some guys have gotten it off and kept it off.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I mean, I guess there is such a thing as an addiction, but I think it's way more people just going like, well, I'm in that group.
Like, no, you ain't.
joe rogan
You just stop going to the diner at 345. It's also they get addicted to having certain types of foods in their body, like sugars.
There's a lot of people...
ari shaffir
Yeah, you get used to it.
If I have enough days in a row of lots of candy, which is every day, and then if I go a day without it by 6pm, I start getting low blood sugar.
joe rogan
Yeah, you've got to stop eating candy.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I'm trying to get off it.
I was doing a lot less of that in China.
joe rogan
You don't take caffeine in.
ari shaffir
No, no caffeine.
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Constantly eating sugar.
ari shaffir
I can see the negative effect on me.
joe rogan
But caffeine has benefits.
Antioxidant effects, cognitive benefits.
ari shaffir
I drink a lot of tea.
joe rogan
That's good.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's probably better.
You get some caffeine from the tea, but they say that herbal tea is like drinking a very mild vegetable soup.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I see that.
joe rogan
There's some certain type of vegetable nutrients that you can get.
Not a lot of it.
Very watered down.
But it's actually not bad for you.
A lot of teas are actually quite good for you.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I see even the caffeine teas.
Really, the caffeine stays in the leaf, so it's not really coming off it into your stuff.
joe rogan
I never got jacked from tea.
I never drank tea, and I was like, whoa!
ari shaffir
Once I started losing my voice, I just did a little research.
Like, what makes you lose your voice?
And one of them was caffeine.
I was like, I'm done.
joe rogan
I've never heard that.
I've never heard caffeine makes you lose your voice.
ari shaffir
Anything dehydrates you in some way.
It's caffeine.
They definitely said alcohol.
They said smoking, but I'm like, look, I'll make do where I can.
joe rogan
Dave Foley used to drink pots of coffee.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Pots.
Pots.
ari shaffir
He said he pretty much ran that show, top to bottom.
joe rogan
Dave Foley didn't pretty much run the show.
Paul Sims definitely ran the show.
He was the guy who produced it and created it.
But Dave Foley was what I would call a secret producer, an uncredited producer.
ari shaffir
He just took control of it.
joe rogan
Well, he was just really good at creating sketches because of Kids in the Hall.
ari shaffir
Oh, so good.
joe rogan
Really good at creating...
ari shaffir
Oh, I saw them live somewhere.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, you tell me.
He was really good at creating moments.
And so Dave would see a scene, and the reason why he was able to do that was that Paul...
Like, he saw that that was a benefit.
They had super healthy egos about that stuff.
Like, they would let us...
We could ad-lib all the time.
Especially for the first four years.
We did a lot of ad-libbing.
And Dave Foley was a big part of that.
Like, restructuring entire scenes.
ari shaffir
The first four years of the meeting before?
joe rogan
Before Phil died.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But Dave, you know, he just had a great sense of it.
And it was just a really open sort of an environment where they allowed, like Andy Dick, you know, they allowed him to be him.
They allowed him to open up and expand.
ari shaffir
He got set him loose.
joe rogan
Yeah, expand the character.
He would have these moments, and he would add a bunch of things to the moment to make them more ridiculous and preposterous.
And we would add things to each other.
I would occasionally write for Vicki Lewis.
I could see how she would make something really funny.
And so we would do it for each other.
She might suggest something to me, and she would see your character from an outside point of view.
ari shaffir
I'd say something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, that would work.
joe rogan
Well, it was a weird environment.
ari shaffir
Camaraderie, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a great camaraderie.
It was a great cast.
ari shaffir
It was a really good show, man.
And Sims, a great show.
joe rogan
There was, like, straight actors, too.
Like Steven Rue, who's fucking hilarious.
But he essentially would just take the lines and go into his character and then, you know, like, create that Jimmy James character.
ari shaffir
I was talking about the other day how great he was in, like, Office Space.
And, like, you forget about him.
joe rogan
Dude's great on everything.
He's a fucking great guy, too.
ari shaffir
And he goes serious, too, a lot.
He gave a million dollars to some charity.
You're like, how good did he do in his career?
He gave a million dollars to some charity.
joe rogan
Did he really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
That's what Renazisi said.
joe rogan
Renazisi might have made that up.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it might have been $20.
joe rogan
I could see him doing that, though.
He's such a nice guy.
If he really had a lot of money laying around, he might do it.
ari shaffir
Something he cared about?
joe rogan
He's a very interesting, real artist.
That's how I describe Stephen Root when it comes to being an actor.
He's a real artist.
ari shaffir
Some of them are into it like that.
He's legit.
joe rogan
Plus, you couldn't say anything bad about the guy as a person.
He's a very, very nice person.
Always a very nice person.
But the most impressive actor was Maura Tierney.
ari shaffir
Why?
joe rogan
Because I didn't even know she was acting sometimes.
Like, we'd be doing a scene together.
Like, sometimes we'd fuck off in the middle of scenes.
People would joke around.
And she'd get back into the scene, and she was so good.
Like, you couldn't tell that she was acting sometimes, if that makes any sense.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, her ability to act...
You know, I never even took acting classes.
I took a couple lessons, some private lessons that Disney made me take with this really crazy lady who was trying to get me to leverage her to be my mom in a sitcom.
They created a sitcom.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Oh, she was so crazy.
I did it because they made me do it.
I took these acting classes.
ari shaffir
She tried to get you to put her in it?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was humiliating too.
It was such an uncomfortable scenario.
They hired her to do it, but she was really weird with me.
ari shaffir
She wanted in.
joe rogan
Well, she said weird shit to me too.
She's like, I'm worried you're going to go over there and you're going to fail.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's what I put in my head.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I'm not good at that shit.
You know, because people played head games with me all throughout my childhood in fights.
Like, that would be at the weigh-ins.
People would say weird head game shit to you when you were weighing in.
Like, what's it going to be like when I knock you out?
Oh, that's not going to happen, so don't worry about it.
Have a nice night.
I'll see you in a few minutes, okay?
And I'm going to kick you in your fucking face.
Dudes would say shit like that to each other.
So when you knew that you were going to have a fucking kickboxing match and then you're talking shit to somebody at the weigh-ins, the difference between that and some lady who's an acting coach trying to tell me that she thinks I'm going to go over there, I'm worried you're going to go over there and you're going to fail.
I'm like, well, you don't need to worry about that.
And don't talk to me like this.
This is some gross, passive-aggressive, like, why are you worried that I'm going to fail?
Because I got something that you never got?
Like, shut up.
andy stumpf
This is a stupid way of talking to people.
joe rogan
You don't ever say, I'm worried you're going to go over there and fail.
ari shaffir
Yeah, what is that?
joe rogan
I'm not the best actor in the world.
I've never been.
josh olin
But I know how to do it.
joe rogan
It's not that hard.
When you're acting sitcom style, you pretend that it's really happening.
So when I'm doing that, I'm like...
I know what I'm doing here.
ari shaffir
I was never watching you on news radio going, Jesus, man, fucking do the line again.
joe rogan
It's not that hard.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it was also good writing is the most important thing because news radio had- It's hard when it's really shitty writing.
It had perfect writing at many times.
It was like the best written shows, by far, the best written thing that I was ever a part of.
But I was on a bad show before that.
This Fox show was terrible.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, the baseball show was diggity-diggity dog shit!
It was so bad!
And so that's way harder to do.
When you do a show like NewsRadio, it's easy to be good.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because the writing's so good.
ari shaffir
Yeah, so you get into it more.
joe rogan
The idea's good.
ari shaffir
They let you say, like, I'm going to change these lines a little bit.
This sounds more like I'd say...
joe rogan
If you let someone be involved...
I think this is where Paul Sims was a genius.
not just in the fact that he's a really good writer, but he also recognized that if you let someone be a part of the creative process, they're even more invested in it.
They enjoy it even more.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
That's right.
I mean, I think that was it.
It was also that there were always just no ego, looking for the best line.
And Foley would always come up with the best line.
He was so good at that.
It's, you know, he's one of those guys, man.
He's been on the podcast before talking about the problems that he's had in divorce and alimony and child support and stuff like that.
that he's one of those guys that like when I think about the fact that he might have been like derailed in a lot of ways because of this horrible relationship that he is still tied up to and financially entangled with and still a part of some crazy divorce procedure it's like going on and on and on because he owes back alimony or child support or whatever second worst relationship on that show The second worst.
Yeah, he had the second worst.
Phil had the worst.
That was the other thing you get used to.
You get used to seeing all these people interact with other people of their ilk, and that's where I developed my no headshots policy.
It's very important.
You always tell us about that.
Seeing actors interacting with other actors, and they're both crazy, and they're both trying to work it out.
It was just too much chaos.
Too much chaos there with famous people trying to hang out with other wanting-to-be-famous people or other famous people.
ari shaffir
It's very weird, huh?
joe rogan
There's also the weird dynamic if only one of you is successful.
ari shaffir
And you're both in the same business.
joe rogan
Not good, dude.
Not good.
I've had friends that were successful, but they dated unsuccessful actresses, and the unsuccessful actresses would always try to get them to mention them to a casting director.
Did you talk about me?
Because that movie, he's casting that movie, and I am fucking perfect for that part.
He doesn't know that I'm perfect for that part, but you have to tell him.
I've seen that shit.
ari shaffir
Is it?
No, because you're not.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Or the other way, it's even crazier when it's a chick and the chick's making mad money and on TV in front of the camera.
ari shaffir
And then she's like, do something with your life.
joe rogan
It's that Weasley dude that's behind her sweaty, holding her hands.
And what do you do, Tom?
ari shaffir
I'm a producer of sorts.
joe rogan
Well, I'm working on the script right now.
It's kind of a romantic comedy involving my wife and another man.
You know, that's all I got.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The dominant female.
The dominant female star with the beta male.
The beta male behind her.
Hanging in there, clinging.
People tell you it's normal.
It's totally normal.
It's totally normal.
Bitch, that ain't normal.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's not normal.
You need to get some enlightenment.
joe rogan
Sorry.
People, like, the yin and the yang of relationships.
Very difficult.
ari shaffir
I've seen so many, like, cool relationships that at some point became...
joe rogan
Death.
ari shaffir
No, they just, the girl turns and they go, what are you doing?
I mean, you gotta get a better job.
You gotta do it.
It's like, why?
Because you're getting a better job?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Wow, but it gets in the way.
That's their breeding.
joe rogan
Well, it's also you hanging around with comics.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and it's like, yeah, I'm gonna struggle for a while.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of comics that they get married and the girl wants to have a baby, and she worries, how are you going to be able to feed the baby?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
Why'd you get involved with a fucking broke comic?
What'd you think he was going to do?
Suddenly be a banker?
unidentified
Okay, Ari, you can't help who you fall in love with.
You can't help who you fall in love with, and I fell in love with you, okay?
joe rogan
I'm fucking sorry.
I wish it didn't happen, but it did.
It's a spell.
It's a magic spell.
ari shaffir
Well, what I fell in love with you was your love for abortion, and now things are changing.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
How dare you?
That's the perfect thing to say right there.
ari shaffir
How dare the perfect thing to say?
joe rogan
Yeah, if you talk to someone and you're dating them and you know this is never going anywhere, and they're like thoroughly opposed to abortion, you're like, eeks.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
This could end ugly.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
This could end the worst way.
joe rogan
Because unfortunately, Patrice had a fucking great joke about that.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
Patrice had a great joke about people getting mad that you don't want to have the same kind of relationship they have.
He was a prophet.
And, you know, you want to be the president of General Motors.
Well, the president of General Motors, that job's not available.
But the job is available that I come over to your house at 2 o'clock in the morning, drink your last Snapple, and you suck my dick.
That job's available.
Like, that position's available.
That's the only position that's available.
ari shaffir
Take it or leave it.
joe rogan
So you tell me whether you want this position.
Like, don't, like, if that's the kind of relationship.
He goes, that's the kind of relationship we have.
You know, you can't get mad at me that I don't want to make it something different.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is what I have open for you.
ari shaffir
I call this girl in some city that I'd hooked up with here or there.
I met her in Bray at one of your shows, actually.
Yeah, real cool.
And we've done it on and on for a few years.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
And then I found her in some city.
She was living there now.
And she was like, actually, I got a boyfriend now.
I was like, you want to hang out?
Because, you know, I'll hang out sometimes.
And she goes, you don't have to.
I mean, honestly, our relationship is only ever like that one thing.
And I was like, yeah, you're right.
It was.
Wow.
So best of luck to you.
joe rogan
So you offered to just hang out and be like a nice guy?
ari shaffir
No.
First I offered to hang out and then also sex.
But I don't spell that out.
unidentified
I was also born in that city.
ari shaffir
Oh, I see.
joe rogan
So you felt like if you got close to her and you were hanging out together, sex would probably happen.
ari shaffir
Sure, it would.
But I was also lonely in that city.
I was like, hey, there's some new movie out this week.
You want to go see it?
And then, yeah, you don't have to say, obviously.
We're going to fuck later.
joe rogan
Look at their music playing, bro.
ari shaffir
What's the music sound like?
joe rogan
Like a Cat Stevens song.
ari shaffir
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
Cats in the crater in the sea.
ari shaffir
Sing about my dad?
joe rogan
Little boy blue and a man blue.
ari shaffir
That was the hold music they played when Homer lost his child and couldn't find Bart.
So it was like missing persons and they start playing that for the hold music.
unidentified
Oh God.
ari shaffir
He starts crying.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's rough.
Yeah.
I read something.
It was like advice to men.
It was like all these different.
And one of them was one of the pieces of advice, never go back with an ex.
ari shaffir
Why?
joe rogan
She doesn't really want you anymore.
Yeah, there's a reason it didn't work out.
She doesn't really want you anymore.
I'm like, God, that's so generalizing.
Because how many times have you gotten back with an ex and had the best sex in the history of the fucking universe?
We don't see each other for a long fucking time.
It should just be like, be careful with your heart with an ex.
Your heart.
Who the fuck are you?
What have you done with Ari?
Jesus Christ, what is this?
You blew it, mister!
You're like fucking Clayface from Batman.
You're pretending to be Ari.
brian redban
East Coast now with his emotions.
joe rogan
I'll get rain on you, you bitch, and you'll turn back into Clayface.
ari shaffir
I fall in love every once in a while.
joe rogan
God, who the fuck are you?
What have you done with Ari?
Jesus Christ.
brian redban
Are you in love right now, Ari?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Tell me about your soul.
ari shaffir
It's pretty right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, so what were you about to say when I'm so rudely interrupted?
ari shaffir
I don't even know.
brian redban
Something about your feelings.
unidentified
You're stupid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, I was like, just be careful.
Yeah, if you get back with it.
joe rogan
Careful with your heart.
ari shaffir
They're going to hurt you again.
Is that what you said?
If it's about sex, yeah.
joe rogan
Said careful with your heart?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
You should write songs.
unidentified
You should write songs.
ari shaffir
I don't know how to rhyme.
Otherwise I'd do it.
joe rogan
I would love to see you like swaying back and forth in front of a microphone.
Do that cricket dance?
Yeah, singing like a real serious song.
ari shaffir
What's that song?
joe rogan
Hey there, Delilah.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Are you singing like a real serious song?
Like maybe like Counting Crows style?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
You know, be careful with your hearts.
ari shaffir
Yeah, emote.
Really emote with it.
joe rogan
No, man.
Some of the best times ever.
ari shaffir
Some of the lyrics will be real quiet-y, like...
unidentified
It's bad advice, right?
joe rogan
You know what?
It's like...
It's like saying...
ari shaffir
There's no weirdness.
If you hang out with an ex, you're definitely fucking.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And it's probably going to be really fun.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
Freeing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Be freeing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Because you'll know what it is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, the idea that she's...
I mean, come on, man.
ari shaffir
Oh, I miss you.
joe rogan
You can't generalize.
ari shaffir
I haven't fucked you like this for a while.
joe rogan
Sometimes it works.
Sometimes you apologize for how it went bad.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sometimes you fuck like wild animals.
unidentified
Whew.
joe rogan
And then, about five hours into it, they said something that reminds you of how fucking annoying they were.
And you're like, oh my god, what am I doing?
ari shaffir
Jill Sobily used to have a song about, if you want to prove my lack of heterosexuality, listen to Jill Sobily.
But she used to have a song about forgetting a guy's smile.
And they're like, oh yeah, that's such a great smile.
And then forgetting why she broke up with him.
And I was like, oh yeah, you tried to fuck all my friends.
That's right, I remember that part now.
But that smile will win you over again.
joe rogan
It's very difficult, if a girl has a nice ass, to remember all the mean things.
A girl has a great ass, and she's DTF. You're hanging out.
You're both single.
You got a couple cocktails in you.
You just happen to be in the same town.
She just touches your skin.
ari shaffir
It's around here.
joe rogan
Little kissy, kissy, kissing your dick is like a goddamn crowbar.
ari shaffir
Oh, look who's back.
joe rogan
Look who's back, my little boner.
Yeah, ready to fuck.
ari shaffir
Sometimes you get a girl that can just talk to you.
And you're like, oh, there it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's certain girls that are sexier.
And I'm sure there's certain guys that are sexier, too.
I'm sure it's girls.
There's a lot of shit you and I both do that it's really fucking annoying and is a real vagina dryer.
A real fucking close the show, right?
Every guy.
unidentified
For every girl that thinks what you do is hot...
ari shaffir
First time I opened for you, I saw a girl, hot, walking across the whole, like, Faneuil Hall.
I see her crossing the hallway.
The show's over.
She's crossing from the bathrooms back there all the way.
And I'm looking at her the hallway.
And then she gets up to me.
unidentified
You are wicked funny!
ari shaffir
I almost pissed myself!
And I was like...
unidentified
There it goes.
joe rogan
That's designed that way.
ari shaffir
To keep them...
joe rogan
Yeah, nature designs it that way.
ari shaffir
To keep them alone.
joe rogan
Well, to keep you from wanting to do that.
Keep you from breeding.
unidentified
It's like a yellow snake.
joe rogan
It's like you've been enlightened.
You've escaped.
You've escaped from that East Coast area.
ari shaffir
Speaking of enlightened, Shroomfest is here August 9th, 10th, and 11th.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
Allegedly, everybody who participates participates online simultaneously.
Allegedly.
ari shaffir
Just do mushrooms August 9th, 10th, and 11th.
brian redban
Like portabella.
ari shaffir
If you want to know how to find them, or what they're all about, I wrote a primer online you can go to.
It pretty much answers every question you've ever had about mushrooms.
If you just Google Ari Shaffir Shroomfest Primer.
joe rogan
Are you worried about advertising shroom press that you might be targeted by the feds?
ari shaffir
As what?
joe rogan
As a shroom supporter?
ari shaffir
No, man.
I live free.
joe rogan
Wow, you do live free.
ari shaffir
Sometimes if I don't see any reason for these rules at all, I'm like, nah, we're not going to act on that.
joe rogan
It's the dumbest set of rules ever.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
The fact that you go to CVS and buy a gallon of whiskey and drink yourself to death in the parking lot.
Easily.
No one can stop you.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
The fact that that's possible.
ari shaffir
I'm not facilitating any mushroom.
joe rogan
Sons of bitches.
ari shaffir
I'm not buying it for people.
I'm just fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah, you're right.
ari shaffir
Tell me, everybody.
Fucking, you should do it.
joe rogan
We should all do it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
That's how laws change anyway.
joe rogan
You know who shouldn't do it?
ari shaffir
Who?
Dick Cheney.
No, he definitely should.
joe rogan
People under 23. And even if they do it, whatever.
ari shaffir
That seems old.
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I'd go younger than that.
brian redban
It depends on their upbringing.
joe rogan
I'd say 21. Alright, 21's not bad.
ari shaffir
I don't know.
I had some cool friends in high school that did it that always scared me.
joe rogan
If we're going to allow people to drink at 21, how can you not allow them to take mushrooms too?
ari shaffir
I'd say, realistically, 16 and a half.
joe rogan
That's not bad.
If you have community centers where you could give these kids a dose that you know is super safe...
ari shaffir
Even if they don't, they'll be fine.
joe rogan
What if the only way to get mushrooms...
I'm not saying the kids should do mushrooms, don't get me wrong.
ari shaffir
Let's go to your counselor or something?
joe rogan
Joe Rogan says kids should do mushrooms.
I'm not saying they should do mushrooms, but if a 16-year-old wanted to do mushrooms...
And they just got them on their own and took them.
ari shaffir
That could be dangerous.
And you don't know how much to take.
Absolutely.
joe rogan
You don't know how strong it is.
You don't know how much to take.
ari shaffir
Don't get behind the wheel with this.
It's going to really fuck you up.
joe rogan
And here's the reality.
ari shaffir
16-year-old kids will do it.
joe rogan
They did it when I was in high school.
There was always kids that did mushrooms and fucking listened to the wall.
ari shaffir
You know what Vancouver's got?
joe rogan
I know.
ari shaffir
In Hastings, in the fucking heroin area, they have safe shoot-up places.
joe rogan
That's smart.
ari shaffir
Where you can go tell them what I'm taking.
So if you overdose, they can whatever, help you.
As best they can.
Instead of hiding it, they're going to do it.
Why are we not helping them?
So people are going to do mushrooms.
Absolutely.
You should be able to talk to your guidance counselor in high school about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's smart.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's smart to regulate...
ari shaffir
How much do you take?
No, you don't need an ounce.
Absolutely.
You need half an eighth.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
You're not taking an ounce.
You're going to take a stem.
ari shaffir
You're crazy.
joe rogan
We're going to see if you freak out.
And then you're going to come back tomorrow.
We're going to talk to you about how psilocybin affects the brain.
ari shaffir
Take a cab.
Next time, we'll take more.
joe rogan
Here's all the benefits of psilocybin.
Here's what they've shown.
John Hopkins University showed that people who took...
ari shaffir
Yeah, you started that study.
joe rogan
Fascinating.
That's what...
If they had like...
Certain drugs that were not just legal but respected.
Like, that's the real problem with things like psychedelic drugs.
ari shaffir
They can't make grants to research them.
Exactly.
joe rogan
Well, they can now.
They can now more than ever before.
They can get the rights to, and Strassman did all those studies on DMT, and then new ones on DMT. They got new ones going on right now.
ari shaffir
I gotta do DMT eventually.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
You do, indeed.
joe rogan
Yes, indeedy.
But only if it's legal under the God's law.
ari shaffir
Somebody gave me some in Winnipeg, but he freaked me out.
He was like, hey, here's what DMC says.
I was like, oh, really?
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
I was like, maybe if I get the right...
And then he goes, but if you don't do it, don't give it to anyone.
Just throw it out.
I'm like, I'm out.
No way.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
ari shaffir
The warning like that.
joe rogan
Don't give it to anybody.
ari shaffir
Yeah, what does that mean?
What's in this?
joe rogan
Yeah, you fucking crazy asshole.
ari shaffir
No way.
joe rogan
Mixed in some roofies.
He's got your phone.
He knows exactly where you are at all times.
He's got your phone's location addresses hooked up to his laptop, and he's phoning you around in a fucking bulletproof van.
Solid rubber tires like the Punisher.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm going to throw you back there.
Take you for a fuck ride.
You think you're funny, huh?
Amazing racist?
My mother's half Mexican!
unidentified
Beat you.
joe rogan
Fucks your face while you're out cold.
Not good, dude.
Don't do it.
You're very smart.
ari shaffir
They told me they had mushrooms in Hong Kong.
I found some people that were podcast listeners.
These musicians were out there.
And he said something because I made a joke about mushrooms.
And he goes, uh...
And he's like, oh yeah, you know, I get him out here.
I heard from the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.
unidentified
Whoa.
ari shaffir
And I was like, where do you get them out here?
He goes, they're in the woods, man.
Hong Kong has woods and it's humid as shit.
Like, how do you know what to pick?
He goes, I did a lot of research.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta know.
ari shaffir
Cross-reference it with pictures.
joe rogan
McKenna talked about all the different varieties that look like psilocybin mushrooms but are super toxic.
ari shaffir
Super poisons?
Yeah, those are like the red ones.
I'm like, I don't know, man.
That seems like a get-out warning from the plant.
joe rogan
Some of them, yeah, like the Amanita muscaria.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's like, I'm not taking any answers.
Drug dealer or nothing on that.
joe rogan
You know what the other problem with that Amanita muscaria one is?
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
Never talked to a single person who had a real trip with them.
ari shaffir
You had people taking them?
joe rogan
Take them and nothing happens.
ari shaffir
It's not really a mushroom, right?
It's different than a regular mushroom.
joe rogan
Well, it's not psilocybin.
ari shaffir
Right, that's what it is.
That's what it is.
joe rogan
It's some other...
ari shaffir
Different psychoactive.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they think that the mushrooms that you're getting now, when you get an Amanita muscaria, for folks who don't know what the fuck we're talking about, Google Amanita muscaria mushroom and religion.
Google religion, because it's connected to a lot of religions.
It's connected to Santa Claus.
It's supposed to be the original Santa Claus.
ari shaffir
Just Google it and figure it out.
joe rogan
It's fascinating, but we've talked about it too much on the podcast to go on.
But it's apparently different than psilocybin.
It's another different type of...
But I've never heard a single person who's done it who got off on it, who had a real psychedelic experience.
I did it with Doug.
Doug and I did it on the day of the Iraq War.
Me and Doug and Jan Irvin.
Jan cooked it up and we drank this tea, but McKenna was saying that those mushrooms may be different genetically and seasonally and also in the area.
ari shaffir
If you get cherries out of season, then it's sweet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And apparently you got to catch them in the right area.
You got to get them from the right branch of this mushroom tree that's grown or whatever it is.
ari shaffir
Mexican food in New York.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Something along those lines.
But the ones that we're getting today are just bullshit.
But apparently in some parts of the world, some people know how to do it right.
ari shaffir
They're probably the ones who cultivate them on purpose since they're letting them grow.
joe rogan
But it's not like psilocybin.
Like psilocybin mushrooms get you off no matter where the fuck you are.
No matter who takes them, psilocybin mushrooms produce psilocybin.
That's what they are.
You know, there's stropharia cubensis.
There's a bunch of different types of these, similars.
But all of them that have psilocybin knock you into fucking Jupiter.
That doesn't work that way with the Amanita Muscaria.
So a lot of people are confused about the original use of the Amanita Muscaria.
There's all this speculation about it being attached to Christianity and all these ancient religions.
If you look at all these old cards and things from the 1800s, Santa Claus on Christmas cards.
They all had the Amanita muscari attached to it.
That mushroom was like a big part of Christian folklore and culture.
ari shaffir
Super Mario Brothers, too.
I don't know how that got in there.
joe rogan
They didn't know.
No one knew.
ari shaffir
So they just thought, like, I'll put this weird-looking mushroom in?
joe rogan
No one really...
It was mainstream for a small period of time in the 1970s.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
But the Catholic Church bought off the rights to the John Marco Allegro books.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, one of them's still available.
ari shaffir
You're the worst.
You're the worst, Catholics.
joe rogan
The new pope's a good guy, though.
Seems like a nice guy.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I guess.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This John Marco Allegro guy wrote a book called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross.
And the reason why it was significant is he was one of the scholars that was...
ari shaffir
That said that's what helped start Christianity?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Oh, and they're like, no!
joe rogan
Yeah, they were like, fuck this.
So they bought up the rights.
It connected the mushrooms to Jesus and a bunch of other shit.
They bought up the rights to it, but they didn't buy up the rights to the other one, the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth, which is even more inflammatory in its title.
Sort of like to go, hey, you can't silence me, dickheads.
I'll just write another one, and I'll write it with another company.
ari shaffir
That's right, you can write another book.
joe rogan
That one you can still buy.
The Sacred Mushroom of the Cross, you have to buy, you have to get it.
Oh, actually, Jan Irving just republished it.
ari shaffir
You can probably almost automatically illegally download it.
joe rogan
No, Jan Irvin started publishing it again.
Yeah, he started publishing it again a few years ago.
Before that, I have a couple copies of it, but they're all really old.
I got them from a used bookstore.
ari shaffir
And Christianity doesn't want people knowing of that.
joe rogan
They didn't back then.
That's for fuck sure.
ari shaffir
It was at Simpsons where Homer had a crayon up his nose and it went through his brain and made him super smart.
And he came up with a proof that there's no such thing as God.
And he gave it to his next door neighbor, Smithers.
Smithers?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
No, not Smithers.
joe rogan
What is his name?
No.
Who's Smithers?
ari shaffir
No, what?
joe rogan
Mr. Burns.
ari shaffir
Flanders.
joe rogan
Flanders.
ari shaffir
Thank you.
Flanders, there you go.
Yeah, he goes, well, that can't be true.
unidentified
And he's like, oh, that, yeah, that, oh, wow.
ari shaffir
And he goes, well, we can't let this get out.
He burns it immediately.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
It's like, well, we can't let there be a proof for no God.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know what the fuck they would do.
Like, what if they found today?
Like, what if they found incontrovertible evidence?
If the Catholic Church found incontrovertible evidence that Christianity was designed by aliens to keep people in line until they landed?
ari shaffir
They have to bury it.
I'll give you an analogy.
joe rogan
Yeah, what if they found, like, one of those, like, Obi-Wan, help me, Obi-Wan, you're my only hope.
They hit some thing.
ari shaffir
I'm about to start crocheting it.
joe rogan
Hulligan shows up and explains how humans were created.
ari shaffir
L. Ron Hubbard.
joe rogan
Shows an alien.
ari shaffir
Wearing old clothes.
joe rogan
Banging a monkey.
Yeah.
Shooting a load into a monkey.
Shaking it up in a test tube.
Point.
A human being pops out.
ari shaffir
I think they keep going because for the same reason Philip Morris kept going when they found out.
Yeah.
They're like, well, we got a good business going now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I'm not giving up my house in Tahiti.
ari shaffir
So it's based on nothing.
Who cares?
joe rogan
I have a castle in Tahiti.
So what?
People smoke cigarettes.
They're going to smoke anyway.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
We tell them it's bad.
ari shaffir
Look, people need to worship something.
joe rogan
They worship cigarettes.
ari shaffir
I gotta pee again.
joe rogan
Go pee, you silly bitch.
Jesus Christ.
How dare you?
How dare you?
ari shaffir
I got another story for you about Shanghai.
joe rogan
Well, you have such an interesting...
Go ahead and pee.
Ari, for folks who don't know, has such an interesting take on religion and religious, fundamentalist religion ideas, because he lived in a crazy religious community in, not a kibbutz, but one of those things, in Israel.
And studied the Talmud for like 12 hours a day, every day, and had all these super specific rules.
And then went from there to become, within a couple years, he was a dirty comedian, which is amazing.
brian redban
And like the exact opposite.
Like not only was he just a dirty comic, but he was doing like, you know, like that.
Those videos that he was doing that was very, you know, jokingly racist and stuff.
He went from, like, the opposite end immediately.
joe rogan
Well, he went very inflammatory, shock humor, stuff that he thinks is funny.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But we're talking about you, dude.
How weird it is.
You're, like, one of the only dudes that I know that went from being, like, in a very strict religious upbringing, like, about as strict as you can get, to becoming an open-minded, dirty comedian who starts a mushroom festival.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's probably the only one.
joe rogan
Who the fuck else is there?
You're in a class by yourself, pal.
ari shaffir
There were a few others that were religious that got out.
Metzger, Pete Holmes.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's definitely a few that got out.
But not as far out as you got.
They all kind of linger around the edge.
They dance.
ari shaffir
Metzger's pretty out.
Metzger hates religion.
joe rogan
Kurt Metzger?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was he?
ari shaffir
He was Jehovah's Witness.
unidentified
Whoa!
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
ari shaffir
He was real deep in the brother so-and-so, brother Joe, brother Brian.
joe rogan
That's unfortunate.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
But now he's viewed it the same way.
He brings up these...
And he breaks them down, too.
He says this thing.
There's no justification in the Bible for killing someone at war.
War has nothing to do...
There's no nations in the Bible.
You're not allowed to...
Just because America's attacking Iraq, you're not allowed to go in and kill an Iraqi.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
But still do not kill.
joe rogan
That's a good point.
ari shaffir
There's no way around it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's no way around it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And he talks about stuff like...
Baking up in kosher, then it always comes back to something.
Why was that in the Bible?
Because it's made up!
You're like, why is there an explanation?
Because it's clearly made up!
joe rogan
Well, it has to be made up.
Everything's made up.
We know that...
Look, if it's not like...
Could you imagine if you're dealing with a religion that the people that all practice that religion are clearly elevated?
They're clearly in some incredible place where they never lie, and they're only altruistic in their motives, and they're super kind, they're super honest, and they live universally.
There's no variation.
Universally by this intense moral code and this...
Projecting of love and understanding everywhere.
So much so that you felt it when you were near them.
Like, wow, that guy's clearly a Catholic priest.
You know what I mean?
Like, if that was a thing.
If it was a thing where these people would never lie, they would never cover up child rape, then you might listen to them.
Then you might say, okay, well maybe these guys really did find the Word of God.
And if the word of God made a lot of sense, if it doesn't make sense to people, well, you know, God works in mysterious ways.
Or retards wrote a book, and you're asking me to follow a book that retards wrote.
ari shaffir
They used to sell, if you donated enough, they would sell you these tickets.
I forget what they're called, but these tickets into heaven.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
And they started selling to rich people.
And that, I mean, the priests, the popes, they would do that.
That's not even close to the worst thing they've done.
joe rogan
No.
No, not even close.
Not even close.
Well, how about the last pope himself?
The last pope, the last guy, is really, he's guilty of crimes against humans, crimes against nature.
unidentified
What do you mean?
joe rogan
He was one of the guys that diverted priest pedophiles.
He diverted them to new places.
So they could do it again.
They did it again.
ari shaffir
And it's like, this is your head.
That means the head of your organization is going to do that, and you're still going to be in that organization?
joe rogan
One of them raped a hundred deaf kids.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Wrap your head around that.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
So the priest was directly responsible for moving a guy who raped like a hundred deaf kids.
The official numbers, like, speculation between 30 and 100. I mean, this has been going on for 1,500 years.
Oh, yeah.
Probably since the beginning of the times where they made them be celibate.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
It's probably when they started fucking kids.
It's probably when they started covering it up.
I mean, it's amazing that you have one religion.
And this is a religion that I come from, by the way.
ari shaffir
One sect of the religion.
joe rogan
One sect of this.
ari shaffir
It's not even Christianity.
It's specifically this.
joe rogan
I think of Catholicism as its own religion, but I guess you're right.
ari shaffir
Protestants don't do this.
joe rogan
But Catholics don't think of themselves as Christians.
You talk to a Catholic, it's very rare that a Catholic considers themselves a Christian.
They consider themselves a Catholic.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and Egyptians don't consider themselves Arab.
But get over yourself.
joe rogan
They're in Africa, though.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're whatever.
Arab.
unidentified
Shut up.
joe rogan
That's not Arabia.
Who are you?
Ooh, this guy's an asshole.
But Catholics, the one religion that's explicitly connected to raping children.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no other one.
ari shaffir
It's in their newsletter.
joe rogan
Look, there's people in all sects of life that do terrible things.
ari shaffir
It's not people.
It's systematic.
joe rogan
Systematic.
ari shaffir
Systemic over the years.
Been covered up and made to continue.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Instead of going, oh, who cares what you are?
You've done this.
We're going to report you to the police.
And try to get you to stop doing it.
It should be the responsibility as a Catholic Church.
Not even cover it up and make sure it never happens again.
This guy should go to jail as a warning to other priests.
joe rogan
He was accused of crimes against humanity by victims of sex abuse.
Victims' complaints to the International Criminal Court accuses Pope Benedict and three others of failing to prevent abusers.
ari shaffir
Agreed.
joe rogan
And hiding them and moving them.
Yeah, he's a criminal.
He knew that this guy was fucking kids and moved him to a place.
Just the idea that you are in charge of administering the law in some way and you're so ignorant, you don't understand the recidivism rates for child molesters.
Like that's criminally ignorant.
Or it's either that or you're complicit.
It's one of the two.
ari shaffir
You're trying to protect your business.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
This will be bad news for it.
Let's cover it up.
joe rogan
There's no other options, right?
Those are the only two options.
So why is that guy wandering around?
Why isn't that guy locked in a cage?
ari shaffir
Remember those people in China that the baby powder formula?
Baby formula powder that like 20 kids died from this baby powder?
Yeah.
And they found out what the CEOs of that company were doing was putting this enzyme in that would make it test higher for purities.
But this enzyme, they just added on their own It also had toxins in it and it killed 20 people.
They just murdered those people.
The Chinese government said, we're going to kill you all now.
joe rogan
How about what happened with GM? With these fucking cars?
ari shaffir
Yeah, they just cover it up.
joe rogan
Sam Tripoli was on the podcast and he was talking about it in sort of vague terms.
He didn't know the whole story.
And I believe him.
I didn't believe him.
Like, you had that wrong.
They don't do that, dude.
I was convinced.
ari shaffir
And then you looked it up.
joe rogan
And I looked it up.
It would have saved them a dollar a car.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
A dollar a car.
ari shaffir
And they're willing to risk someone else's life over a dollar a car.
joe rogan
It would cost them a dollar a car.
So it would save them a dollar per car to let this happen.
ari shaffir
I'm telling you, man.
It's like you think you're better than that, but it's like organizations, when they go unchecked, they'll just become that.
They'll just become that horrible thing.
You need repercussions.
brian redban
What kind of car do you drive, Ari?
ari shaffir
No, no.
joe rogan
Don't tell people.
ari shaffir
No, no.
It was a Honda for a long time.
joe rogan
You're free now, right?
ari shaffir
Free of that now.
joe rogan
Are you Ubering around and shit?
ari shaffir
Uber and some.
Bar and Renazisi's car today.
joe rogan
Bar and Renazisi's car.
That's a good friend.
Let's see.
Bar and Renazisi's car.
ari shaffir
He's got a second one here for his wife.
His wife's not here.
You've been lifting?
joe rogan
Let me see.
ari shaffir
Uber's great.
unidentified
Uber.
ari shaffir
Uber's great.
Uber, to me, is a perfect example of why the free market exists.
Where it's like, cabs are assholes.
They don't pick up black people.
They fucking yell at you and demand that you pay fucking cash instead of credit card, even though that's not the rules.
They just smell.
And then you're like, well, guess what?
A new organization pops up from that.
joe rogan
Those guys have downtime in between gigs sometimes.
Limo drivers.
That's why Uber works so well.
And then there's UberX, which uses Priuses.
They take people around in Priuses.
ari shaffir
UberX is the best.
brian redban
UberX is just comedians.
joe rogan
You have to have a job to do that?
How do you work for UberX?
brian redban
You just pretty much turn on the app.
ari shaffir
If you've signed up, whenever you're ready, go ready to work.
Here's what I asked them once.
joe rogan
Do you have to get checked out?
Do they register?
Do they know who you are?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
I know they're not paying people's insurance.
I know they're not paying their driver's insurance.
If a driver crashes, it's on that driver.
brian redban
They have to get special insurance.
I think they've gone through some checks, but I don't think they're that crazy checks.
I had talked about how I thought that somebody was going to get murdered and kidnapped.
ari shaffir
Here's the check.
Here's the check.
It's the rating system.
brian redban
Yeah.
ari shaffir
If you get bad ratings, if you drive all over, people won't take you.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got a guy in New York who asked me to give him a rating.
He asked me to rate him on a very nice guy.
ari shaffir
So you could help me if you did that.
brian redban
Yeah, but if you murder and kill somebody, you just take their phone and give yourself five stars.
ari shaffir
That's a great point.
That's a great point.
Then he just never does a rating.
joe rogan
Someone's going to fight for their life on a password-protected phone.
That'll be your demise.
ari shaffir
It's weird, though.
You would know who they are.
You would know who they are.
They'd come to pick you up.
joe rogan
Only if you have an iPhone that's new.
brian redban
Yeah, but...
ari shaffir
No, they would know in the system they came to pick you up.
brian redban
You don't kill the other ones.
joe rogan
What about the Android users?
brian redban
No, they have the thumbprints now.
joe rogan
Thumbprints don't work on the Android phones.
They don't really start the phone up that good.
There's one on the fucking big silver one.
Moto X. No, not the Moto X. What's the other one?
HTC One Mega or whatever it is.
They have a fingerprint thing in the back.
ari shaffir
Thinking of getting off my data plan.
joe rogan
Oh, look at you.
You're a gangster.
ari shaffir
Just like no data plan.
joe rogan
They do Galaxy S5 too.
Why would you do that?
ari shaffir
It's addiction.
joe rogan
Oh, you're addicted.
ari shaffir
Too much time spent checking social media and emails.
But I'm like, I can get to that later.
joe rogan
Well, I'll tell you what.
I was on vacation for a few days.
unidentified
Felt good, right?
joe rogan
Did you get off it?
Occasionally I got on Twitter to send out messages.
You know, like something funny.
I saw a picture.
I saw a deer walking around.
Took a picture of this guy walking around.
Because the deer gave zero fucks.
Just walking towards me.
And so I took a picture of him.
Because I was just amazed that this deer was so used to being around people.
He was just walking around.
But other than that, I didn't really go online.
Didn't really read too much.
Just chilled.
Relaxed.
ari shaffir
Great feeling.
joe rogan
Great.
Shut your phone off.
Don't check my email during the day.
ari shaffir
Look at people a little bit.
joe rogan
Hang out with people.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I see it on elevators.
As soon as the elevator...
Everyone takes it off.
And like, no one's even...
Not that we need to make friends all the time.
But keep your eyes up.
Just like...
joe rogan
Both are good.
It's good to have a phone.
Because it's good to be able to get information quickly.
I want to go to a movie.
Let's find out what's playing.
But you have to have discipline with that.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and if I don't, then it's like, I don't know if, you know, I'll tell other people, look it up on your phone.
joe rogan
Do you think technology in doing that, like if you look at that trend, the trend of being constantly connected to your phone, being afraid to leave your phone behind, do you think that technology, if you sort of extrapolate, like where is that going, that didn't exist before?
Do you think that technology is drawing us in to become completely committed to machines?
Yeah, Borg-ish.
Dude, Duncan just got back from this virtual reality conference, and he fucking called me up, tripping out.
Tripping out.
Tripped me out.
ari shaffir
On LSD. No, no, no.
joe rogan
He was completely sober.
I was in front of the improv, and we're talking on the phone.
He goes, dude, you're not gonna fucking believe this, man.
He goes, this is bigger than the invention of the camera.
This is bigger than the invention of the internet.
He goes, you go into a room, and there's a man in the room playing piano.
You have these virtual reality goggles on.
You put them on and he goes, and it's almost indistinguishable.
He goes, you're watching a movie.
He goes, it's HD and it's a film and it's playing out in front of you in three dimensions.
The way they make this film is they put cameras all over a person's body and then they film as this guy's walking around.
So as you move this headset that you're wearing, it picks up all the appropriate angles from all the different cameras and it's seamless.
He said the first one, if you got that Oculus Rift, the first one, Yeah, I played that at his place.
Very pixelated, but still fascinating, right?
ari shaffir
Made you nauseous.
joe rogan
That's gone.
He said, that's gone.
ari shaffir
Gotten way better, right?
brian redban
But the nauseous is still there.
joe rogan
He said, I'm sure.
ari shaffir
But like a new prescription on my glasses that you get nauseous for like half a day.
joe rogan
Those people are called pussies!
The fucking, the change is here.
But Duncan was freaking the fuck out.
It didn't give me nausea.
brian redban
It kind of, I could see where it would happen.
Doug Benson had made him sick.
I think it was, I don't know.
joe rogan
Do you get sick when you read in a car?
Yeah, I do.
I get really sick when I read in a car.
I've gotten like where I've rolled down the window, I'm like, I'm not going to make it.
ari shaffir
You have to breathe out fresh air.
joe rogan
Well, I'm like, I am gonna fucking, I can't swallow quick enough.
ari shaffir
Especially if it's a curvy road.
Because you don't know where the turns are coming, so it's like, it goes against where you know where it's going.
joe rogan
For me, it's just reading.
It's just, it does not even, it has to be curvy.
If I'm reading in a car, if I try to read a book or a newspaper in a car, I get sick.
But nothing, that's the only time.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
Get on a bus or train easier.
joe rogan
I got sick flying in an FAA-18 when I flew with the Blue Angels.
I tried super hard, but I got sick at the end.
ari shaffir
You barfed.
joe rogan
Did a little puking.
ari shaffir
What's the term, I got sick, to mean barf?
joe rogan
Yeah, I know, right?
ari shaffir
I didn't ever hear it like that, and then I heard it in books that way.
joe rogan
How about the term, I got my eye on you?
I had my eye on her.
Like, she had her eye on you.
Dude, she's got her eye on you.
You know?
Like if a girl's got the hots for you, hey Ari, she's got her eye on you.
ari shaffir
She's looking at you.
joe rogan
But what is that fucking, some ancient fucking medieval shit?
ari shaffir
Throw your eyes.
joe rogan
She has her eye on you.
ari shaffir
Eye of Newt is part of a spell.
joe rogan
Back when people talked really weird, you know?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I think that the only thing that's lacking in cell phones and stuff is the, it hasn't gotten caught up by the etiquette yet.
So people are now starting to be like, hey, it's dinner.
Put your phone away.
joe rogan
That is nice when people do that.
And people are also starting to really get into retro shit.
Think about that.
People are really into record players now.
And a lot of people are into old cars.
Three more minutes.
We're going to turn into a pumpkin in three minutes.
ari shaffir
Oh, I've got to tell you this thing.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
Tell it quick.
ari shaffir
So in Shanghai, they have these noodles.
Street noodles.
They also have street meat, which is delicious.
There's expose, which I did not eat any street noodles.
This is the way they got their oil to cook the noodles.
They would.
Brian, I sent you the link.
joe rogan
Do you think you have another podcast in you right now?
Do you have another like hour and a half or so?
ari shaffir
Hour maybe.
joe rogan
Let's do another one.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
We'll just end this bitch.
We'll do another one for an hour.
Fuck it.
I got nowhere to go.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
My kids are asleep.
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unidentified
I think so.
joe rogan
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We'll be back tomorrow with the guy from...
Oh, this is going to be really interesting for you, Brian.
You're going to love this.
The guy from Unbox Therapy.
Unboxed.
Yeah, he's got a great YouTube channel.
And it's all about technology.
It's all about new shit.
So going in line with what we're talking about.
We'll find out about Oculus Rifts and all kinds of other shit!
brian redban
And we have a show tomorrow night.
joe rogan
Oh shit, we got a show tomorrow night at the Ice House.
Dom Irera and Joey Diaz are in the big room.
And then there's another show that we're doing in the little room.
And maybe we'll get people back and forth from over there too if they want to do extra sets.
brian redban
Greg Fitzsimmons, Sarah Tiana, Tony Hinchcliffe, and myself and you.
joe rogan
And what about Christina P? Jesus Christ!
brian redban
She had to jump out.
ari shaffir
She's on some new thing.
joe rogan
Fitzsimmons, Tony Hinchcliffe, Sarah Tiana, you and me.
God damn it, son!
What a great fucking show!
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