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June 27, 2014 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #515 - Ari Shaffir (Part 2)
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joe rogan
That's right, bitches.
Round two.
We make choices like that.
If we were on a network, we would never just say, hey, can we do another hour?
Yeah, let's do another fucking hour.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
How should we end this shit?
This episode, this episodeette, we'll call it an episodeette, is brought to you by Ting.
Ting, which is a mobile service.
When are they going to stop calling them?
They were trying to decide that recently.
Like, why do people still call them cell phones and mobile phones?
ari shaffir
It's not cellular.
joe rogan
They're all smart, though.
ari shaffir
But mobile means, like, we can move it with it, right?
joe rogan
Hmm.
Yes.
But it's so smart, it's not just mobile.
ari shaffir
All phones are mobile now.
joe rogan
But if you have an iPhone, it's more than just...
ari shaffir
Right.
It's not just mobile.
joe rogan
If you have an iPhone 5, that's not just a mobile phone.
That motherfucker has a computer in your pocket.
You can take pictures, make videos.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
So what do you think we should call it?
joe rogan
Better name than a smartphone.
ari shaffir
Some of the people in charge of names.
joe rogan
Come up with a better name, bitch.
ari shaffir
Do your fucking job.
joe rogan
The point is, Ting has phones for sale, folks.
Okay?
They use the Sprint backbone and they rent time on it and then give you the same service that you would get if you had Sprint, but at a very reasonable rate.
How reasonable?
I'm glad you asked, Ari Shafir.
ari shaffir
How reasonable are we talking about?
joe rogan
98% of people would save money with Ting.
That's a lot of goddamn people.
That's almost like saying everybody.
98%?
There's just two fucking weirdos that somehow or another have strange data usage and they wouldn't save money.
Ting has, the way Ting is set up is you only pay for what you use, which I think is what the whole world is going to have to do in the future.
Because just like you used to have to pay for long distance if you called your friend in New York, you remember that?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That shit's out the window now.
They had to abandon it.
ari shaffir
Candidly, still got that.
joe rogan
Canada still has that.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I had a joke that didn't work.
unidentified
Oh, really?
ari shaffir
A homeless guy asking about his cell phone and saying it's not long distance.
I'm like, wait, it's never long distance.
And in Canada, I was like, what do you mean?
What do you mean?
joe rogan
They also have socialized medicine.
You gotta take the good with the bad.
Pros and cons, son.
Pros and cons.
Yeah.
But what they do is they only charge you for what you use.
So, because of that, like, you don't have, like, a lot of people, they'll have a plan, 100 minutes, or whatever the hell it is.
A lot of times you use way less than that, especially with phone calls.
Who the fuck makes phone calls anymore?
Or probably way less phone calls than you would just a few years ago because people text so much.
But you oftentimes don't use all your minutes, but you don't get credit for those.
And Ting used to do that.
They used to give you credit.
But now they said, you know what?
We've got a better way to do this.
Just pay for what you fucking use.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
No early termination fees.
No cancellation fees.
Pay for what you use.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you didn't use it while you were paying for it.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying!
ari shaffir
Why don't you have to guess ahead of time?
It's in the game of spades.
joe rogan
Jesus fucking Christ!
Someone get it right!
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All the cool ones.
All the fascinating new gadgets.
They have the Samsung Galaxy S3. They have that Moto Max that we were talking about.
They have that LG G Flex Samsung Galaxy S5. Galaxy Note 3 is what I meant to say.
And that HTC, the HTC One, the M8, which is pretty fucking slick.
A lot of really cool shit.
All the best and most groovy new cell phones.
And if you use rogan.ting.com, you can save yourself $25 off any new phone.
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Alright, Ari Shafir is here.
This is what we call a...
ari shaffir
Podcastette.
Podcastette.
joe rogan
So we will do an abbreviated version of the commercials.
ari shaffir
This, by the way, is the size of most people's whole podcast.
joe rogan
Fuck them!
Fuck those people!
Cue the music on, Jamie!
ari shaffir
The 209, bro.
joe rogan
This is what happens when Brian's not here.
The whole place goes to shit.
Look at you.
Train by day.
ari shaffir
All night.
joe rogan
You don't know what the fuck you're doing now.
ari shaffir
You train and then the night comes and you stop training.
joe rogan
Get it right.
Get it right.
Are you ready?
Did you get it right?
unidentified
The sound is all fucked up.
joe rogan
Oh, you're a mess.
But can the folks hear us?
unidentified
They can hear you.
joe rogan
Okay.
We don't need that music.
We already had the music once today.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
We probably...
We got greedy.
Tried to double music it.
unidentified
You can't do that.
ari shaffir
It's not a two for Tuesday.
joe rogan
R. Shafir has so many stories about China.
We talked about so many other things besides the stories about China.
We decided we have to keep going.
So you were about to tell some crazy noodle story.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
So they had these street meat, which is great.
joe rogan
And this is Shanghai?
That's me.
unidentified
What was that?
joe rogan
I knocked into this table.
ari shaffir
That sounds like a fucking truck fell over outside.
Yeah, Shanghai.
But they were like, be careful.
The meat's great.
There's kebabs.
You pick it up, they roast it, give it back to you.
Say 0.32, whatever it is.
joe rogan
For how much money?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
You can get by with gesturing.
I learned hello and thank you.
Those are the only words I really knew.
Ni hao and shashar.
joe rogan
You know how I know that?
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
Ni hao kailan.
It's a show my kids watch.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Kailan.
Ni hao kailan.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's cool.
Ni hao.
That's crazy.
I can learn stuff from TV. Sha-sha.
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that's what you say?
Sha-sha?
ari shaffir
Sha-sha.
It's like thank you.
joe rogan
Ah, okay.
ari shaffir
It's also used some other way, but I don't know.
joe rogan
So how do you...
ari shaffir
Gesturing.
I got sick of gesturing.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Except a couple times I would be about to go into a noodle store or something, like a shop, and I'd have to call my friend.
They gave me burner phones, which was nice, that I could use.
And I was like, hey, how do you say noodles and how do you say beef?
And they would tell me both words and I would just go in.
I'd be like, what was it?
I forget now.
Mian is noodles and...
One of the guys from the Matrix movie is the word for beef.
Who's the black guy from the Matrix?
joe rogan
Morpheus?
ari shaffir
No, okay.
What's the main guy from the, what was his name?
joe rogan
Neo?
ari shaffir
Neo, yeah.
joe rogan
That's how you say beef?
ari shaffir
Neo.
joe rogan
Neo.
And what's the other one?
What's the noodles?
ari shaffir
Mian.
joe rogan
Meow, mien.
Did you say mien, meow, or meow, meow?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
But I said that, and then they point to the fucking menu.
There's 18 things.
I'm like, lady, come on!
You can see me struggling with...
If I'm foreign, and I come in, I go, beef?
Noodle?
Just pick something for him.
joe rogan
Just pick something.
Listen to who's saying this.
The amazing racist is saying this.
Where if you would be like, learn the language!
You fucks!
ari shaffir
Those are parody sketches.
It's so true.
joe rogan
Of course, it doesn't really feel that way, ladies and gentlemen.
ari shaffir
The comments on those are the best parts of them.
joe rogan
So many people got so angry at you for those.
ari shaffir
The comments are the best.
Yeah.
Fools.
unidentified
Fools!
ari shaffir
They just argue back and forth.
It still goes.
joe rogan
Angry.
Angry fuckheads.
So the noodles.
ari shaffir
So they have these noodles, these street noodles you can get.
And I was advised the first day, like, you don't want those.
And why?
Show me this video that I can send you right now.
You can put up.
But they are...
Here, put your email here and then just send it to me.
You can just send it to yourself.
So to get the oil, what they would do is they would go to the sewer.
They would take raw sewage out of the sewer and then boil it down the way they'd make wax, hash wax.
They'd boil off the sewage and whatever was left, that's cooking oil that they would use.
It's super fucking harmful.
And then sell to like a lot of the street noodle guys.
joe rogan
What?
ari shaffir
Yeah, that face is what I made.
That same face.
unidentified
What?
ari shaffir
They were cooking with sewer oil, bro.
It was going around.
joe rogan
So it's not common, but it was possible.
So it's not like that's the only way they do it.
ari shaffir
No, but the street places were like, you run a risk here.
It's cheaper oil.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
And they're just getting it from that source.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
What is this?
China's food production up close.
Give me some gutter oil?
ari shaffir
The making of gutter oil.
joe rogan
Give me some volume, Jamie.
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
It's all in a day's work for this woman.
She opens up a manhole cover and scoops out as much slop as she can, delighted by what she finds.
What others might view as revolting, she sees as a bonanza.
She works in the streets of the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen, a foot soldier in China's so-called gutter oil industry.
I seriously almost threw the slops out.
joe rogan
I just gagged.
unidentified
People are awful.
joe rogan
People are just awful.
unidentified
She's scooping out That slop eventually winds up in a processing plant like this one, where it's combined with other animal fat refuse to create recycled cooking oil.
Workers put the oil in barrels for delivery to restaurants at hotels.
joe rogan
Somebody call Anthony Bourdain.
How can you eat this?
unidentified
If you eat it, it can kill you.
Cooking oil has long been a cherished commodity in China, where stir frying in a wok is the mainstay of daily meal preparation.
The high profit margins from gutter oil production have proven irresistible.
Chinese experts estimate that one-tenth of China's cooking oil is gutter oil, which has been found to contain carcinogens and other toxins.
Gee, you think?
joe rogan
Shit, water's bad for you.
unidentified
Breaking news.
Illegal production sites are often discovered after people living nearby notice a nauseating stench and alert the authorities.
ari shaffir
That's where they're cooking your food in.
unidentified
That's pretty much all the good parts.
Look at these guys fake destroying it.
ari shaffir
Chopping out a little bit.
unidentified
We're barely swinging at it.
But many consumers doubt that China's dinner tables can be completely free of gutter oil.
All we can do is accept it.
In our current society, everybody tries to swindle everybody else.
There's nothing we can do about it.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah, that's disgusting.
joe rogan
What?
That takes disgusting to a whole new level.
ari shaffir
I have never almost grown up.
When you're pouring it from the bucket and you hear the...
Go get that sound bite.
No!
joe rogan
Dude, I almost threw up.
I had a look away.
That's the first time I've ever had a look away on a show.
ari shaffir
Really?
unidentified
Nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's amazing.
ari shaffir
Because you knew where it's headed to someone's food.
joe rogan
Dude, I almost threw up watching that.
ari shaffir
So I did not have any of the street noodles.
I did have a lot of noodles, though.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Street noodles.
Motherfucker, man.
But you might have had some gutter oil.
ari shaffir
Absolutely.
I absolutely might have had some.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
I would like to know if you had gutter oil.
ari shaffir
I've got to assume when I see that, when it said where it was, I'm like, I probably had some gutter oil.
joe rogan
I would like to know.
How do you think we could find out?
ari shaffir
My friend who was there said, he was like, yeah, I mean, I ate it for a little while.
You know, I got a kick of eating it.
This was way before the expose came out.
He goes, I had a lot of diarrhea.
unidentified
Ha!
ari shaffir
I mean, it was a lot.
joe rogan
Because you're eating shit.
ari shaffir
Because you're eating someone else's shit.
unidentified
Jesus Christ!
ari shaffir
We boil it.
We put a flame under it.
It's not good enough.
joe rogan
You know what China is to me?
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
When you see the worst case scenarios about China.
Did you ever see that HBO documentary about them selling bait?
I think it was HBO. They were selling children.
Guys were selling their two-year-old children.
This one boy was screaming because his dad sold his brother away.
ari shaffir
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Deep, dark shit.
And they were interviewing the guy who sold his kid.
And he was like, look, I didn't have any money.
I had a kid.
I had to sell the kid.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's really fucked up.
I mean, really fucked up.
But to me, when I see stuff like that, when I see that guy that was saying that people swindle people, when you see the whole gutter oil thing, it's like humanity, if shit gets bad, if people are in a bad spot, people go real bad.
They go real bad.
ari shaffir
They can part metalize.
They don't think, I'm not concerned with who gets this.
They just don't think about it.
I'm sure it's okay.
joe rogan
That lady was telling me, I bought a house.
You bought a house by feeding people shit.
How much shit did you have to shovel to get your house?
And you have to continue shoveling shit in order to pay for that house.
I assume they have mortgages over there.
Do they have mortgages?
unidentified
I don't know what they do.
joe rogan
She's not buying a house with cash, like showing up.
ari shaffir
No, I don't think so.
joe rogan
Big fucking stack of paper.
Dude, that's insane.
ari shaffir
That was pretty gross.
joe rogan
That's beyond gross.
I almost threw up on a podcast.
I've never done that before.
ari shaffir
That plopping sound.
joe rogan
Dude, I hosted Fear Factor for six years.
I've seen some shit.
I'm not a regular person in that regard.
I've seen more disgusting shit than almost any other person who's a comedian.
ari shaffir
Yeah, up close and personal.
joe rogan
Right there, and helped people get through eating things.
ari shaffir
And you got nauseous from that.
joe rogan
And I got nauseous from that.
unidentified
I could smell the shit as she was scooping it up.
ari shaffir
That sound made it so descriptive.
joe rogan
Yeah, the...
Really, I got that weird tingle in my throat.
ari shaffir
I know what you mean.
joe rogan
I didn't think I could control it.
Oh, that's horrible.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's pretty bad.
joe rogan
Brian Callen told me he was in China, and they were at a restaurant, and the restaurant had pigs underneath the restaurant.
ari shaffir
Just running around?
joe rogan
Yeah, they were like in containers underneath the restaurant.
And then they realized, his mom asked, and realized that when you shit, the shit was going down to where the pigs were.
The pigs were eating your shit.
ari shaffir
You're human shit.
Oh, gross.
And then you're being served that.
joe rogan
And then you're eating the pigs.
Motherfucker.
ari shaffir
That's unfortunate.
joe rogan
You think?
I mean, and they're doing it old school style.
You're shitting in a hole.
You're squatting like you were talking about in the first podcast before this one.
ari shaffir
An old podcast we did.
joe rogan
Yeah, we did another podcast a couple hours ago.
Ari was talking about how you go into these bathrooms and there's a hole in the ground.
That's your toilet.
So underneath that hole, pigs.
unidentified
Just...
joe rogan
Just waiting to get a shit in their mouth.
You really get a impression, dude.
unidentified
So fucking gross.
joe rogan
But again, that's what happens when people just, when it goes bad.
ari shaffir
Play that noise again, Jamie.
joe rogan
Don't do it.
ari shaffir
Just play that noise alone.
joe rogan
Don't do it.
ari shaffir
Just that part.
Just cue it up in case we need it.
unidentified
Oh, hurl.
ari shaffir
Just cue it up in case we need it.
It sounds like we do need it.
joe rogan
That plop, plop, plop, plop, plop.
ari shaffir
They said the hashish in Hong Kong was cut with up to 25%.
joe rogan
Gutter oil?
ari shaffir
Nope.
Shoe polish.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
It's too high a percentage for me.
But there was some California weed there.
joe rogan
25% shoe polish.
ari shaffir
Up to.
Up to.
joe rogan
God damn.
Just because they wanted to make it bigger.
ari shaffir
Make more.
joe rogan
God damn.
That's so gross.
It kind of looks like shoe polish.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it does, so you can't really tell.
joe rogan
Oh.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I'm like, man, it's fucking me up.
Like, yeah, it's not good weed.
joe rogan
Can you imagine?
ari shaffir
It's just fucking you up.
joe rogan
What does hash cut with shoe polish smell like?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's got to have a turpentine-y sort of a smell to it.
You know that smell?
You know those cans?
You'd open up your grandpa's shoe polish and you'd smell it.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It was like those little circular cans.
ari shaffir
Does turpentine keep it moist or something?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I'm saying turpentine.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the circular ones.
unidentified
I know.
ari shaffir
We used to do that.
We used to shine our Shabbat shoes with those.
joe rogan
Yeah, spit.
Spit on a rug.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And just rub it on there.
ari shaffir
We had those brushes, too.
Or you can use an old schmata.
joe rogan
You see those guys at the airport now?
ari shaffir
Shoe shiners.
joe rogan
Shoe shine guys.
But you never see those anywhere else.
It's the airport and that's it.
ari shaffir
They come around businesses sometimes.
In New York.
In D.C. too.
This guy used to come to our law firm.
He would go to each business once a week.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen one in L.A. at a business?
I mean, there must be some.
ari shaffir
When am I in a business?
joe rogan
When are you in a business?
ari shaffir
You know what I mean?
In an office building.
joe rogan
Whenever you're in your fucking apartment, you're in a business.
That's the beautiful thing about being a comic.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I got some technically in my business right now.
joe rogan
You're in the business of writing fucked up things down that will eventually become jokes.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a business.
It might not be your business, but it's a fucking business.
ari shaffir
Yeah, get into bed, turn the heat on.
joe rogan
It's business.
I'm going to beat off on myself and watch cartoons.
ari shaffir
Bring my computer with me.
joe rogan
Research.
ari shaffir
This is right off time.
joe rogan
I'm hoping that in watching all this porn, I can come up with a joke about me watching all this porn.
ari shaffir
And if not, so be it.
joe rogan
Tough shit.
Yeah, that's the beautiful thing about being a comic.
Anything you're interested in, like anything you pursue online, could potentially be a bit.
ari shaffir
All research.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, literally anything.
Any idea that you read online that you find fascinating, you can find, if it strikes you, you can find a comic angle to it.
ari shaffir
Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly, anything you care about, enough to look at.
joe rogan
And it's almost like today we're spoiled because every day there's some new ridiculous story that goes on that could be like an awesome bit and they just keep flying by.
ari shaffir
They keep coming at you.
It's too many of them.
They keep coming at you.
And they're like, oh no, guys, don't forget about the story because I'm already doing a bit about it.
joe rogan
Well, even if people forget about it, you can reinvigorate the idea, but the idea is that you forget about them, because there's so many of them.
ari shaffir
There's another one that comes by.
joe rogan
I'm constantly retweeting things where I'm like, what?
Like I'll retweet it and go, I gotta write a bit about that, but it just goes by the wayside.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because it's just too much shit.
There's so much.
If you look online, like, if you have a bunch of good Twitter feeds that you follow, you'll find some of the most ridiculous articles and stories.
A guy got caught.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
A fucking American tourist got caught in a giant vagina statue in Germany.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They had to rescue him.
ari shaffir
I saw the billboard for that.
Another billboard.
Preview?
Nope.
unidentified
Headline, just the one word, the top of the website.
joe rogan
U.S. student is rescued from a giant vagina sculpture in Germany.
You find it on my Twitter feed there.
ari shaffir
Dude, they laugh at us at how stupid we are.
joe rogan
We're dumb as fuck.
ari shaffir
They laugh at us.
joe rogan
Look at this fucking giant vagina.
ari shaffir
Oh, he went in there?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got his legs trapped in there.
Fucking idiot.
The fireman had to come and get him out.
ari shaffir
Where did he step in and then couldn't?
joe rogan
They should have just hacked his legs off with an axe.
They should have came over.
ari shaffir
Left the leg in there.
joe rogan
just grab the axe and he would have figured out a way to get out.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Wait a minute.
ari shaffir
Work harder.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
I called 911.
ari shaffir
You fuck.
Sorry.
unidentified
I called 911.
joe rogan
Chop. Hack. Chop. Chop.
Ah.
Just let me try to get my right leg out.
No. Chop. Chop.
ari shaffir
My right leg's not even stuck though.
Let me just.
unidentified
Shut up.
ari shaffir
Chop. Chop.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The vagina sculpture for me.
First of all, why do you have a vagina sculpture in Germany, you fucking weirdos?
Like, what is that about?
ari shaffir
Come on, Germany.
joe rogan
What an odd choice to have a fucking vagina sculpture.
ari shaffir
Outside.
joe rogan
But meanwhile, vaginas are fucking super important.
ari shaffir
And they're inviting.
joe rogan
Yeah, if it wasn't for vaginas, there'd really be no people.
ari shaffir
Of course they're supposed to get inside it.
joe rogan
But isn't that funny that for whatever reason, like, it's a bad thing to have a vagina sculpture?
ari shaffir
Taboo.
joe rogan
You can have a sculpture of a woman's face.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's okay.
joe rogan
No problem.
No problem.
No controversy.
ari shaffir
No controversy.
joe rogan
Shoulders, shoulders, up to shoulders like this.
ari shaffir
Showing the boob off.
joe rogan
Nah, boobs get tricky.
People like to cover those.
They like to cover the boobs.
But as long as the boobs are colored and you're an angel, that's okay.
ari shaffir
Oh, if you're an angel, forget about it.
You need a thing like that in your town square.
joe rogan
But a vagina?
We're not like that.
It looks like a vagina, too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it does.
joe rogan
If you scroll down, Jamie, there's a picture of this fucking poor slob with his goofy glasses.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the headline was that poor slob gets stuck in a statue.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at this.
ari shaffir
Vagina statue.
joe rogan
What's that?
Did you find the image?
I found more photos of it.
ari shaffir
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
This fucking crazy bitch got so far down and so stuffed into this thing that he couldn't move his legs.
Like, they had to figure out how to get him out of that thing.
Don't play that.
Just go to photos, because this is the kind of shit that gets us kicked off of YouTube.
There you go.
There he is.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Look at this fuck.
There's another one with his face.
We should shame him.
ari shaffir
Oh, wow.
unidentified
So he fell over or something, and then he climbed in like an idiot, and his legs got smushed.
joe rogan
He got stuck.
Or it's a gag.
It could be a stunt.
ari shaffir
That looks pretty tight in his legs, though.
joe rogan
It does, but so does a hero.
ari shaffir
You always gotta put everything up.
Like, it's possible as a stunt.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Always.
Looks like it.
If I had to guess...
ari shaffir
Looks like a stunt.
joe rogan
Yeah.
22 firefighters had to pry him open.
Oh my god.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
22 firefighters.
They probably all jerked off on him to lube it up.
ari shaffir
Maybe.
That'd be great.
That'd be great.
joe rogan
Imagine if there's only one way to do this.
We've got to jerk off on you.
ari shaffir
The hard way.
joe rogan
Lube up your legs.
ari shaffir
That's the only way.
joe rogan
Lube up his legs.
Americans, what does it feel like telling people in another country like China that you're American?
Do they just go, ugh?
ari shaffir
Well, the other...
Chinese people, you didn't really talk to much.
joe rogan
You didn't talk to them much?
ari shaffir
Barely.
Only the ones that spoke English.
joe rogan
Did you hang out with your Chinese ladies?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I won.
She was at this bar that I performed at, or right next door in this area.
I thought she was in my show, but then later I wasn't positive.
joe rogan
Apparently, they have a thing, according to this guy who posted on the Rogan board.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
He lives in China.
What thing?
They have a thing for people with big noses.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
White men with big noses.
They go crazy for it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, maybe some people are like that.
joe rogan
It looks so different to them.
ari shaffir
Yeah, she didn't really talk English at all.
She knew a couple of words, but then you got a vibe.
Still a vibe there.
joe rogan
So you kind of knew.
Did you feel like you were some crazy foreigner?
Like some savage from another land?
ari shaffir
A little bit.
joe rogan
Tell me more.
ari shaffir
Well, that's the area.
There's a lot of foreigners there.
Right.
In that area.
joe rogan
This guy on the Rogan board was saying...
I should give the guy credit.
He was saying that these women...
You'd have to tell them that you love them.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, but saying that you love...
Saying that is different.
ari shaffir
Doesn't mean not committing to you forever.
It just means I love you.
joe rogan
It doesn't mean what you think it means here.
People say it all the time.
ari shaffir
Yeah, there were differences like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then he was also saying that when you break up with them, they go fucking crazy.
He was saying that he had a real problem with that.
ari shaffir
You break up and they go crazy?
joe rogan
Yeah, like suicidal or murderous.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, his name is Ripple.
That's the guy.
It's a very long thread.
And it's on the Rogaboard.
It's actually from July 23rd of 2010. So it's a four-year-old thread.
And it just recently got bumped up, probably, I mean, maybe because of you being there.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
Huh, that's cool.
Maybe.
Maybe.
joe rogan
Maybe I'm wondering.
But it might just be coincidental.
But either way, pretty interesting shit.
This guy talking about his experiences being a white guy in China and just dating chicks.
He never was into Chinese chicks until he went to China.
And then he got like super into them.
ari shaffir
Probably.
You're there all the time.
I mean, they're not fat.
They're all real thin.
Like, too thin, almost.
joe rogan
Too thin?
ari shaffir
Yeah, a lot of times, like, you gotta have some, like, you know, meat on your bones.
joe rogan
No butt?
Is that what you're trying to say?
unidentified
Oh, no.
ari shaffir
Definitely no butt.
No, butts were scarce.
joe rogan
That would be a problem.
ari shaffir
A lot of barbecued chicken claws.
joe rogan
You know what this guy was saying, though?
Not enough butts.
What he calls McTits.
He said that the Chinese people that lived there that ate McDonald's grew tits.
ari shaffir
Wow.
Because of all the hormones they shot into it.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
He said those were the ones.
It was like one of his things that they were saying.
The McTits theory.
ari shaffir
They some have nice B-cups.
joe rogan
Ah, nice B-cup.
ari shaffir
But, you know, nothing crazy.
McTits, that's funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Isn't that interesting?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
That the ones who ate a lot of McDonald's food.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's so hilarious.
It's his McTits theory that the foreigners have formulated over there.
ari shaffir
McTits theory of body type.
joe rogan
Wow.
Isn't that crazy?
But if they live off McDonald's, they have tits.
But he was saying that they mistake 40-year-olds for 30-year-olds or younger.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
I think...
I've heard some of them are like...
They're looking...
Well, a lot of times they're also like...
Immigrant workers, when they get off, they're just looking to fuck.
They're just looking to have a good time.
I mean, I've never seen anybody party like that.
On Sundays, they get off, and they have very little rights, but Sundays, they don't work.
And they just fill up the markets, and they all dance.
They're all line dancing together by the Bay, drinking.
Yeah, but like the Chinese music, but absolutely.
They don't just know their things.
They party.
They are free.
joe rogan
For one day?
ari shaffir
For one day.
joe rogan
Wow, that's interesting.
So do you think they're all bottled up and then they get that one day so they just enjoy the fuck out of it?
ari shaffir
They're like, we're going to enjoy this.
We're going to enjoy our day off.
No one's taking a staycation.
Let's all get out there.
joe rogan
Some comics have days off all the time, and they get super lazy and forget to appreciate those days off.
ari shaffir
You get used to it.
joe rogan
You know, Eddie Bravo always talks about that.
Eddie Bravo always talks about learning to appreciate life, that sometimes in the middle of it, it's really difficult to appreciate it, and that you've got to force yourself to really step back and appreciate how awesome this is.
ari shaffir
Yeah, once in a while, I'll get a new comic that'll be like...
Like, genuinely, like, man, you got your name on the wall at the comedy store.
That's so cool.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I mean, I guess so.
joe rogan
Did they take my name down?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
They don't take names down?
ari shaffir
No, they don't take names down.
joe rogan
They should.
There's a lot of names they should take down.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's true.
joe rogan
It's a bunch of fucking names where you go, come on, man.
That dude's got his name up there.
Get the fuck out of here.
If they would take those names down, I wouldn't be mad if they took mine down.
ari shaffir
Right.
You gotta get off.
joe rogan
You can take mine down.
Well, you can take mine down.
ari shaffir
Dom is up there twice.
joe rogan
Is he really?
ari shaffir
Yeah, they thought he slipped through the cracks and they put him up another time and then he didn't slip through the cracks.
But that's how late they are about not taking names down.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
His name's up twice.
I'm like, oh, I guess it's up there.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, what if someone did something terrible?
Like, what about that comic that was like a rapist?
Remember that comic that was a rapist?
He was going to colleges.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Name stays up.
joe rogan
Wow.
Is his name up there?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
Maybe.
I don't know if he was a regular at the store.
joe rogan
I don't think he was a paid regular.
ari shaffir
I would have heard that if he was.
Somebody would have run into him.
joe rogan
That's fucked.
ari shaffir
Oh, fuck.
I had his name on the tips of my tongue.
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy's in jail forever, right?
He's in jail for a while.
ari shaffir
A lot of rapes.
A lot of rapes.
joe rogan
He would say creepy religious shit to them, like, pray for me.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
Vince Champ?
joe rogan
That's it.
ari shaffir
There it is.
Thanks, Tip of Tongue.
joe rogan
I remember not knowing who that guy was, but the people that did know who that guy was were like, oh, I could see that.
ari shaffir
Adam Richman just got acquitted.
joe rogan
Adam Richman, the food guy?
ari shaffir
No.
No.
It's a comic.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Who's Adam Richman?
ari shaffir
It's a comic.
joe rogan
Scare the shit out of me.
I don't know why I'm scared of the food guy getting raped.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or raping.
What happened?
ari shaffir
It was something in Minneapolis.
unidentified
Ooh.
ari shaffir
Yeah, with a waitress.
joe rogan
Someone accused him?
ari shaffir
Waitress.
joe rogan
Who do you believe?
ari shaffir
Well, a lot of people find Adam Richmond annoying, so a lot of the comedy community was like, I can see you, I can see you.
I'm like, that's not equal to sexual assault.
Annoying is not the same as sexual assault.
joe rogan
Right, but isn't annoying a sign of being a clueless fuck, and isn't a clueless fuck a sign of being selfish, and isn't being selfish the type of person?
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's also drunk, and he said he was getting aggressive to the cops.
He said he was getting a little aggressive, and then they have some 911 audio of him, her going, put your fucking dick away.
Put your dick away.
Get out of here.
But acquitted.
joe rogan
Wow.
And what did he do?
Well, who cares?
What are we, fucking TMZ? Yeah.
But...
You know what, man?
There's a real problem when you have sexual urges, idiots, and alcohol.
Alcohol adds to it, yeah.
Adds to it!
But also being an idiot, you know, you're not a sexual assaulter.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You wouldn't hold someone down and do something creepy to them if you were drunk.
ari shaffir
One time I was jumping out with Amy Kerfer in college, just a friend, just kissing and stuff.
And I was like, come on, trying to get in her pants.
And she goes, no, no.
Like, kissing was as far as it was going to go.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
And I was like, come on.
She's like, no, no, come on, stop.
And then I got up as a joke to lock the door.
Like, hey, lock the door.
We're doing this.
And then as soon as I locked the door, I took one step back.
I'm like, oh, this seems...
Oh, yeah.
Unlock the door.
Open it up.
This seems weird.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not even funny.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
But we've all been in that situation where a girl's like, no.
And you're like, please.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but what about please?
joe rogan
Yeah, but it doesn't work sometimes.
Some guys are assholes.
ari shaffir
What do you mean it doesn't work sometimes?
It never works to beg for pussy.
unidentified
Sometimes it does.
ari shaffir
You never know.
Have you ever heard of the sympathy handjob?
joe rogan
That's the greatest thing of all time.
When a girl says, okay.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
You're like, yes!
ari shaffir
Finally, we can stop fighting.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Okay, but only put it in my ass.
unidentified
What?
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
I've been blessed by the gods!
Yeah, but you add, like, idiocy, sexual urges, and alcohol is a fucking terrible, terrible, terrible combination.
ari shaffir
It's a bad combination.
joe rogan
But it's everywhere.
That's the weirdest thing about people.
It's like the worst combination of drugs to dating is what you get.
I mean, good in that it's a social lubricant.
People relax, have a couple drinks, it loosens up the vibe.
You might get a little loose and silly and have fun and be more likely to fool around.
But not...
You know, at a certain point, you gotta realize that that's not everybody.
It's like we were talking about earlier in the podcast, that I don't know what happens to some people when they drink.
But I've seen it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you see it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you've seen that switch that goes off and they're not there anymore.
It's not you.
You don't do that.
I don't do that.
But we all know guys who do do that.
ari shaffir
Yeah, one of them's got a portrait in the bathroom.
joe rogan
Yeah, maybe it's one out of ten.
You know, whatever it is.
When you see that man, you know that that guy shouldn't be drinking booze around women if he has a sexual urge because it's just going to be a disaster.
But that's the drug of choice.
That's what you get.
You go to a bar, you don't get an option.
ari shaffir
It sucks to be a woman.
joe rogan
You can take ecstasy.
Yeah, fuck yeah.
Can you imagine being a chick and dudes are trying to drug you?
How many girls have you talked to that have been roofied?
A lot, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah, all the ones I hung out with.
I don't know.
unidentified
A lot.
joe rogan
Well, the ones I roofied, but that doesn't count.
Those fucking bitches had a coming.
ari shaffir
A lot of them wouldn't drink it.
So, you know, the stats are all skewed.
joe rogan
Wasn't Bill Cosby in trouble for some shit like that?
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
No way.
Dr. Cosby?
joe rogan
Yeah, Bill Cosby.
ari shaffir
Second only to Martin Luther King, an important black man?
joe rogan
Not really.
Bill Cosby's sexual assault allegations.
Why doesn't anyone care about the sexual assault allegations against Bill Cosby?
ari shaffir
Those allegations that people agree that when someone's famous enough, we're just not going to care.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
Who the fuck knows it's true?
It also could be just...
Who knows?
ari shaffir
There was a girl at the comedy store who claimed somebody raped her.
And one of the door guys.
And it got really weird for a while.
Because you don't really know who to believe.
But at the same time, it's like, this is bad.
You're not going to come out vehemently on the side of the door guy.
You might be like, I'm not going to get involved.
And then a few months later, she accused someone else of raping her.
And then eight months after that, she accused a third person of raping her.
I was like, why do you keep hanging out at the rape house?
I'm starting to believe that maybe none of this happened.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that was the girl who claimed that Mike Tyson raped her.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
She had made a false allegation when she was 18 about another guy.
ari shaffir
I feel like, I think you did too.
Michael Tyson, that wasn't a good conviction.
joe rogan
He probably did a bunch of bad shit, but in that situation, it seemed like that girl went back up to his room wanting to fuck.
She took her panty liner off.
I don't know what happened.
I don't want to speculate because I wasn't there.
Who the fuck knows?
But there's a lot of shit going on when you have someone who's got a false allegation.
It's like, the problem is...
ari shaffir
Those Duke players, they all lost their season.
joe rogan
It's way worse to rape someone than it is to falsely accuse someone of rape.
In my opinion, it's worse.
Because the rape is a violent crime.
Falsely accusing someone of rape, although horrific, in my idea, my hierarchy of crimes, is slightly lower.
ari shaffir
What if the same amount of violence happened to you because of...
joe rogan
Then it's the same crime.
Like if you go to jail and then guys rape you because you didn't really rape a girl.
ari shaffir
If the punishment for rape is a just punishment, if it's like, okay, that's about right, you know, like that eight months for purse snatching, like that's too much.
joe rogan
Whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Thirteen women have accused Bill Cosby of drugging them.
ari shaffir
With what?
joe rogan
Pudding pops?
Jello pudding!
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
Thirteen.
That's a lot.
joe rogan
This is insane.
ari shaffir
Where there's smoke, there's thirteen fires.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's amazing.
ari shaffir
That's a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, who knows what the fuck happened, but, you know, and I don't want to be callous about it.
I'm just saying who knows because I don't know, but that don't look good.
ari shaffir
Be Callin about it.
joe rogan
Brian?
ari shaffir
Yeah, go.
Bill Cosby's cock glistened.
joe rogan
Understand.
ari shaffir
Glistened in the sun.
Hawks would land on it.
joe rogan
That cock comes out.
unidentified
You know, it just makes its own roofies.
joe rogan
You don't even understand.
They weren't drugged.
They were fucked to sleep.
It's a different thing.
ari shaffir
You're being cowled about it.
I like that.
joe rogan
That's what he would say, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Joey Dees would probably say a similar thing.
Bill Cosby ain't drugging any of those bitches.
unidentified
He just gives them that sweet, thick, that candy jello pudding covered pop.
joe rogan
That's not a good amount of, that's not a good number.
I almost saw him recently.
ari shaffir
13's a lot.
joe rogan
Really?
Yeah, they were telling, everybody keeps telling me you gotta go see him live.
You gotta go see him live.
ari shaffir
Yeah, to be there for experience of like, it was fun and like childhood-like.
joe rogan
Well, also they say he's really good.
ari shaffir
People are shitting on his special and people are like, how can you show a special?
He's a legend.
Like, because we're not shitting on his legacy.
We're shitting on this one special.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
That's how.
You can say everything he does is good now?
joe rogan
He's definitely a good...
He's definitely a great artist as far as the bulk of his stand-up comedy history.
ari shaffir
He's a million right now.
joe rogan
He's a great, great comedian for the longest time.
I didn't watch his new one.
I watched a little bit of it on Comedy Central and I never got a chance to see it in Vegas.
I was with too many people.
ari shaffir
I was too scared.
joe rogan
Scared to go see it live?
ari shaffir
No, to watch the Comedy Central thing.
joe rogan
Because you'd hate it?
ari shaffir
I've got enough respect for him.
I don't need to watch it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but do you have more or less respect for him if you drug 14 chicks?
That seems like if his special sucks, that's not nearly as disappointing.
ari shaffir
It's like, you've got to be more honest on stage.
If that's what you're going to really do, you've got to deal with that from your act.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if he's like this squeaky clean guy, but he's really doing just dirty, drugging chicks and Like that Price is Right guy?
ari shaffir
Not Price is Right.
What show was that?
Family Feud.
joe rogan
What did he do?
ari shaffir
The Hi-8 cameras.
Wasn't that movie Hi-8?
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no, no.
Hogan's Heroes.
ari shaffir
Yeah, Hogan's Heroes.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The other guy who was on Hogan's Heroes was the host of Family Feud.
ari shaffir
Oh, went on to it.
joe rogan
Remember?
Survey says!
The British guy?
ari shaffir
Brad Combs, yeah.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Before him.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
The British guy.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I don't remember.
Oh, yeah, I remember that guy.
He was the original guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was the original guy.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Who the fuck was that?
ari shaffir
I don't know who his name is.
joe rogan
What was that dude's name, Jamie?
Richard Dawson.
ari shaffir
He would always kiss the fucking ladies.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Remember?
He was in Hogan's Heroes.
ari shaffir
That's why he kissed the ladies, because he was so fucking a horndog.
That's evidence from that movie.
joe rogan
That's him.
That's him.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Richard Dawson.
ari shaffir
He's a British POW. Yeah.
That's right.
joe rogan
Look at him.
Slinging dick with that fucking beautiful vest on.
ari shaffir
I got a suit made with a three-piece like that.
joe rogan
I saw.
I saw you.
I retweeted it.
Your pimp-ass photos from...
No, I retweeted you poking Bruce Lee in the dick.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that one got the most, like, favorites I've ever gotten.
I retweeted that.
joe rogan
What were you doing to his dick?
ari shaffir
Doing karate on him?
Yeah, and I just, like, angled it.
So I was, like, right in his dick.
joe rogan
That's in Hong Kong?
ari shaffir
That was in Hong Kong.
joe rogan
Is he, like, the biggest star to ever come out of Hong Kong?
International?
ari shaffir
I gotta believe so.
joe rogan
Imagine the other Chinese dudes like, what the fuck do I have to do?
This doesn't make any sense.
Two guys ever.
Jet Li and him.
That's it?
That's it?
Oh, Jackie Chan.
Whatever.
Three guys.
ari shaffir
I invented tables.
I can't get a fucking footnote.
joe rogan
Oh, look at you.
Ballin'.
ari shaffir
Yeah, those guys made it.
joe rogan
How long did that take?
ari shaffir
You go once, they measure you.
You pick out a fabric, they measure you.
Rhodes told me about it.
They love him.
His headshot's on the wall there.
joe rogan
That's hilarious!
ari shaffir
That guy's been there for 30 years, Rocky, the guy on the left.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Your left or his?
ari shaffir
Yeah, that guy.
joe rogan
The guy in the blue shirt.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Rocky.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
30 years.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
How old is he?
ari shaffir
Looks like he's 80. He's like 60-something.
joe rogan
So he's been there since he was 30. Yeah.
ari shaffir
His son's there.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
And that other guy has been doing tailoring for like 45 years.
Yeah, they pick out a fabric, they measure you, and then you come back the next day to measure it on your body, see what they've got to take in and stuff, and then you come back a couple days later, pick up your suit.
unidentified
That's what they did for me for the UFC. Oh, the UFC finally told you, like, we're going to do this for you?
joe rogan
Yeah, they gave up on me.
ari shaffir
Handmade suit?
They just made it for you?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Great.
It won't fit better than that.
joe rogan
It's kind of tight.
ari shaffir
It is?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I stopped wearing the jacket.
The jacket was too much.
They don't make them for chimpanzees.
They make them for regular people.
ari shaffir
You can get it made for your fucking garbage can body type.
joe rogan
Garbage can?
It doesn't work.
The jacket doesn't work.
The clothes work fine, although they're a little tight.
It's weird.
It's like a stretchy fabric, so it doesn't feel bad that it's tight.
It moves real good.
But, you know...
There's like a slim look that people wear these days.
Slim, trimmed sort of clothes.
ari shaffir
I pass those people in the lower east side.
I'm like, God damn it, you look good!
And there's suits like with the one button and like, fuck, black man and like fucking cool suits.
Like, Jesus.
joe rogan
Slick suits.
Chicks do that shit.
Walking around with those stupid shoes on.
They like it.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, those stupid shoes.
Uncomfortable, slippery shoes.
joe rogan
Oh, those are so ridiculous.
They try to get me to wear those.
ari shaffir
Slippery shoes?
joe rogan
I'm like, bitch.
ari shaffir
Like, why?
You're never going to film my feet.
I should wear sneakers.
You should wear ratty Chuck Taylors.
joe rogan
Good move.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I should, but occasionally they see my feet.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
I don't think I can show you from the bottom up.
joe rogan
It looks like I'm trying too hard.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
Like, if you're a comedian, you wear Chuck Taylors with a nice suit.
ari shaffir
Jordan Rubin.
joe rogan
But it's like you're being a comedian.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You're trying too hard.
You're like, look, I'm wacky!
unidentified
I'm a wacky guy!
joe rogan
I had a meeting with a dude once.
There was a time...
I don't know if I told you the story.
There was a time where they were giving out development deals like fucking crazy.
unidentified
Left and right.
joe rogan
Left and right.
Mad money.
Mad money.
For comedians and, more importantly, for writers.
And this one guy was a writer.
He was a writer on, like, Friends.
And he got a crazy deal.
I think it was Michael Eisner's company.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Remember when he had some company?
ari shaffir
Huge amount of money and an office.
And they say, we got you for two years.
Give us some ideas.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so I had a development deal with Fox at the time.
So they wanted me to meet with this cat.
So I met with this guy to work on a sitcom.
This was post-news radio.
Right after news radio ended, I got this development deal.
ari shaffir
When you're done with this, you've got to tell another story.
joe rogan
So I go, tell another story?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
You're going to tell me what it is?
You're writing it down?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
So I go...
You freaked me out.
What was I talking about?
ari shaffir
You got this development deal?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Okay, so I go in this guy's office.
And they gave him this giant fucking development deal.
They're telling me how amazing he is.
One of the writers on Friends.
This guy's incredible.
Turns out he was actually a partner of a funny guy.
And he was the guy who would write shit down.
And there was like a two-guy team.
And this guy got a development deal.
But he was horrible.
So I go in to meet with him and he's wearing bowling shoes.
And I look down and I see those bowling shoes.
ari shaffir
Why?
Does that work?
joe rogan
Oh, he's a wacky guy who wears bowling shoes because he's silly.
Don't you get it?
So this guy's talking to me about plots and this and that, and I'm looking at his bowling shoes.
ari shaffir
You silly, silly motherfucker.
joe rogan
And I got out of there, and Sussman said the same thing to me.
He goes, you see his shoes?
He goes, he's wearing bowling shoes.
And I go, yeah, what's up with that?
He goes, he wants you to think he's wacky.
ari shaffir
Like, who likes wacky?
joe rogan
Because I'm a wacky guy!
Because he was thinking that's how you become a funny guy.
You've got to walk around with bowling shoes on.
The script that he wrote was such a massive hunk of shit.
Oh my goodness.
It was about an immortal guy.
An immortal guy who banged chicks.
He got cursed in Egypt and banged chicks through the end of time to the future and had all these sexual dilemmas.
Weird.
It was so bad.
It was so, it didn't make any sense.
It was like you would read it and you would go, who could have thought this was funny?
I was in the office with the Fox people when they brought it to me and, you know, they have this, like, did you read it?
So we have this meeting.
I go, yeah.
Did you read it?
And they go, yeah.
I go, I fucking told you.
Like, I told you.
And they're like, well, I mean, it's important.
What he's really good at is story structure.
I go, what the fuck do you mean by that?
You just said nonsense.
What he's really good at is story structure.
ari shaffir
On a sitcom?
joe rogan
The idea is that, like, maybe you comedians know how to make things laugh, make people laugh.
But what you don't know is how to structure a story.
ari shaffir
Nobody really cares about the structure of the story.
joe rogan
But when they say stuff like that, like story structure, you know what?
They're just saying words that sound right.
ari shaffir
You probably won't know what this means, so I'll just say it so you won't argue with me.
joe rogan
Well, there's guys who know how to write movies or books that are really good at story structure.
ari shaffir
Yeah, the guys who write 24. Yeah.
That's hard as shit.
joe rogan
Hard as shit.
Really good at structuring stories.
They spend a ton of time on it.
But a sitcom is about being funny.
Stories are important, but funny stories are...
Like, Larry David was the master of that.
Because he knew how to make a funny, thorough through line.
unidentified
Funny, funny.
joe rogan
It's funny, the idea itself is hilarious.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
I went out for an audition for some part, I told you this, but I read it, you know, some best friend character, and the casting director was like, okay, that was good, my only note, you didn't do any of the lines.
joe rogan
You told me this.
ari shaffir
I was like, oh yeah, those lines are terrible.
I cannot do those.
joe rogan
I was supposed to go out for that same role.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's hilarious.
joe rogan
I read it and I was like, get the fuck out of here.
They're making a big push through the comedian community.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It got to me and I was like, because I'm not completely out of the loop.
I don't audition for things.
ari shaffir
I don't want to act.
joe rogan
I don't have any desire.
So when it comes to me, it's coming to me completely out of the blue.
I don't put myself out in that world.
The only person I've ever acted with is Kevin James because we're friends in the last decade plus.
So, I was like, well, maybe it's just really good.
ari shaffir
And you read it, and it's like, it ain't good.
joe rogan
And then I heard what you did, and I was like, that's how to handle it.
ari shaffir
I asked my manager, like, hey, I said yes before I read it.
So now, can I just fuck around and have fun, or should I just not go?
Like, how do you want me to handle it?
I don't want to get you in trouble with the casting director.
She goes, Ari, I'm never going to tell you not to do what you want to do.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
That's a good agent.
ari shaffir
And I was like, yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good agent.
Yeah, but that's how they make a piece of shit sitcom.
You always wonder how you take a funny guy and make a fucking terrible sitcom with him.
ari shaffir
Hook him up with some shitty writer who just whips it out in a week, who doesn't care about it at all.
joe rogan
Some dickhead wearing bowling shoes, thinking he's wacky.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
Well, that's the beautiful thing about being a comic, about detaching yourself from that ridiculous system.
Like, for the longest time, we were all taught that we had to get a sitcom.
ari shaffir
You have to get a sitcom.
joe rogan
Put together an act.
Get your seven minutes together.
ari shaffir
Even if you just want to go on the road, that's the only way you're going to go on the road and have a draw.
joe rogan
Put a sitcom together.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was the thing, man.
We always were taught that.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And then suddenly you're like, I just lost faith in television.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Like, I stopped even caring.
It was like a girl you're trying to fuck all the time.
She doesn't want to fuck you.
After a while, it's like, I'm not even mad at you.
You're irrelevant.
I just stopped thinking about you.
joe rogan
Well, one thing that I owe Dane Cook.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
For sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is that Dane Cook inspired me to use social media more.
ari shaffir
You could do this without the TV, the approval of some guy.
joe rogan
Well, he inspired me to use social media in a promotion way.
I never used it before, but I saw the results that he got, which were insanely good.
ari shaffir
Myspace, he crushed it.
joe rogan
I mean, he got results from performances, for sure.
But he also got results because of the fact that he had so many Myspace friends.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he capitalized on those results of the shows.
He capitalized so hard on them.
joe rogan
Yeah, fascinating.
Completely fascinating.
So that got me really into MySpace, which got me really into Twitter, which got me...
I'd always had a message board, but that's also when Brian and I started working together and he started creating videos and that also.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, message board was nice, but it's not the same.
It's reaching out to everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not the same.
The message board is very exclusive.
unidentified
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
It shouldn't say exclusive, but limited.
ari shaffir
But once you see he showed the way a little bit where it's like, guys, we don't need them anymore.
We can do some of it on our own.
joe rogan
He was the first guy to break through.
And when I saw it, I was looking at what he created by breaking through like that.
And then I started seeing.
I was like, ooh, there's going to come a point in time.
Maybe it's now.
Maybe it's in the future.
All that's going to matter is how many people you can connect with online.
Like, whatever you can create that people, whether it's one of those videos that Brian used to do, or whether it's a blog entry, or whether it's a stand-up comedy clip, or whether it's a podcast, which didn't even exist back then.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
By the way, I have a podcast called...
unidentified
Oh!
ari shaffir
The Skeptic Tank!
unidentified
Man, suck it!
ari shaffir
Everyone should check it out.
It's pretty fun.
joe rogan
But that was one of the things that led us to doing those Justin.tv, those Justin.tv things.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, those were the first kind of podcasts we did.
Turned on the green room.
joe rogan
We used to do these, I used to have a thing that connected to my laptop that would stream the internet from a cell phone.
It was a long time ago.
unidentified
Oh really?
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, we didn't have Wi-Fi in the Cobbs green room.
joe rogan
It was a long time ago.
It was when cell phone data was first starting to make its way to laptops with these little USB things.
And then they started making some ThinkPads and some certain laptops that had cellular connections built into them.
So they had a Wi-Fi cellular data.
Like I have an iPad that's a Verizon iPad.
It's synced up to Verizon.
So even if there's no No wifi, I can still get on.
I can still look at websites and shit like that.
I love it.
It's really cool.
It's really cool.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's nice.
It's way better than trying to look at something on your phone.
You can look at it on your iPad.
It's like a real website.
But back then, when we were in that room and we were streaming it from that little clunky USB thing that would stick in there, that all started out because of Dane Cook.
He wasn't doing that at the time.
He wasn't doing that, but he did something online that I thought was extraordinary.
ari shaffir
I tell comics too, when they're like, everyone's got a podcast, it's not going to be big.
It might not be big.
And it almost definitely won't.
But keep doing things to move forward.
You'll get a couple fans.
joe rogan
It's not going to make you massive.
It could easily be big if it's good.
The beautiful thing about podcasts is that it's about merit.
Like look at Joey Diaz.
Perfect example.
Joey Diaz is not famous for anything other than being awesome.
It all came from him being awesome.
It didn't come from movies.
It didn't come from TV shows.
It didn't come from anything else.
ari shaffir
And he did a lot of those things.
joe rogan
He did all those things.
Joey Diaz got famous from doing podcasts, from people realizing what a funny fucking guy he is.
Just from being awesome.
And that wasn't available, man.
When Dane Cook popped out of the scene, that was when I first became aware, like, whoa, the internet isn't just for looking at stuff, it's for putting stuff out.
ari shaffir
I love it.
You don't need anybody's approval anymore.
They don't need shit!
Give it to your fans, give it to whoever.
joe rogan
They can't take that back.
It's over.
And the way we use it is very unique, too.
Because we all support each other, and we tweet each other shit, and we pump each other up.
We do shows together, like you, me, Duncan Diaz, Red Band, Eddie Bravo.
Everybody's all connected in this little thing.
And because of that, because of that connection, it makes for an even bigger force, an even bigger impact.
You know?
Like, Tripoli's fucking CD was number two on iTunes, man.
ari shaffir
That was great.
unidentified
That was great.
ari shaffir
He was so happy.
joe rogan
He was so happy.
ari shaffir
Took the gun out of his mouth for like a week and a half.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Like a whole week and a half.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
We're happy for him.
joe rogan
He's super happy.
And also, he sees the light at the end of the tunnel.
You know, when something like that happens.
ari shaffir
Okay, I can get a little bit of like...
joe rogan
Fucking headline all over the place on the road now.
He did Edmonton.
We did Edmonton the week before.
He did the River Creek Casino with me.
And then he went back and packed that comedy club the next week.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I was wondering that the first couple times I did it with you where it wasn't like the next week, but it was like within some time.
And I'm like, well, let's call the club owner and make sure they're okay with it because we already had this thing booked, you know.
But then a couple of them are like, yeah, it's okay.
And then you realize you're telling way more people.
And so a lot of people will just come back.
joe rogan
And you're going to kill in front of those 2,000 people at the River Cree and they're going to tell them, oh, we went to see this guy, Ari Shafir.
Holy shit, was he funny.
Oh my God, he's at the comedy club next week.
ari shaffir
At a club, if you get 30 people extra a show, they're like, thank you so much.
Here's some extra money.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're so happy.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And a club like that that consistently gets- Edmonton's a good room.
Good people.
Yeah.
Like Brian Callen was there.
We were on the plane and Adam Hunter was there.
Adam Hunter was there.
Yeah, I was going up to Edmonton a couple of weeks ago and I ran into Hunter on a plane.
ari shaffir
Oh, that was for the hunting?
joe rogan
Yeah, the hunting thing.
ari shaffir
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, and Hunter was up there doing that comedy club.
Callen was there the week before.
ari shaffir
The Hunter was up there?
joe rogan
No, Adam Hunter.
ari shaffir
Oh, oh, oh.
joe rogan
I had him under the comedian.
ari shaffir
I was like, you just got the hunter to do it.
joe rogan
I had him through five minutes.
Yeah, it's a good club.
I've heard it's a great club.
ari shaffir
That's owned by the same people who talked me out of jail time at Mall of America.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
They talked you out of it?
They got you...
ari shaffir
Yeah, when I did the Hide the Edible there.
joe rogan
So they allegedly...
Wasn't really hide the edible, it was fake.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
ari shaffir
We're not on trial.
joe rogan
Dude, this is the internet.
The government, man.
I'm concerned.
I'm concerned about the future.
I had a conversation with someone about this today.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Someone who was talking about medical marijuana and marijuana being legal in Colorado and, you know, because I was just in Colorado.
unidentified
Legal.
ari shaffir
Someone popped around and it's in the Rockies game until the fourth inning.
unidentified
Woo!
Woo!
joe rogan
Amazing, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that incredible?
ari shaffir
So what did he say?
joe rogan
Worried about 2016. Why?
Because of a couple things.
The conversation went like this.
We were talking about all this shit that's going down in Iraq.
And I said that if Iraq gets really ugly and things start happening, like really bad, and then someone blames Obama and they blame Democrats and they blame weakness.
ari shaffir
Oh, I see it switching over this time.
People are dissatisfied with Obama so Hillary doesn't have a chance.
joe rogan
Then it could go Jeb Bush style.
And then it could go John Ashcroft style.
unidentified
Real bad.
joe rogan
And then, that same type of thinking, it's like Chris Christie style, that tries to like, medical marijuana will never be legal in my state, marijuana will never be legal in my state, children are losing, they're dying out there, their fucking brains are rotting, their feet are exploding, inside their shoes, their dicks are falling off.
These guys, they're all like in that sort of vein.
When a Chris Christie in 2014 is spreading disinformation, he's a guy who's...
ari shaffir
What is he disinformation...
joe rogan
Crazy shit about cannabis and the effects on the human brain.
ari shaffir
I heard Nancy Grace has been super into pot for the last six months.
joe rogan
Has she been?
ari shaffir
Yeah, she likes doing pot.
She smokes it constantly.
joe rogan
Just making it up?
ari shaffir
Yeah, but maybe.
She might.
joe rogan
She's probably lighting up.
She probably realizes she's got to get out of that business.
It's bad karma.
She's in the business today.
ari shaffir
She keeps talking about the crime spree in Denver.
The crime spree is here.
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
The crime spree is here.
It's made its way to Florida.
ari shaffir
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
Directly proportionally.
This guy that I had this conversation with, the conversation was worried about what happens in 2016. Because if 2016 snaps over and becomes super Republican, you know, things sort of go in and out.
ari shaffir
You have pendulums.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, look, they had the 60s.
ari shaffir
He's worried what will happen if we go super Republican?
joe rogan
Yeah.
You had the 60s, and then you had the 70s, and then you had the 80s, which was Nancy Reagan, just say no.
I mean, that's all within two decades.
This is your brain on drugs.
Remember all that shit?
ari shaffir
Seems like when it snaps back, too, it snaps back harder.
unidentified
Hard.
ari shaffir
They don't go moderates.
They go, like, hard.
And then people are like, that's what they want.
They go, super hard Democrat.
They go, super, and then eventually one of them will just win.
joe rogan
Or the aliens land.
ari shaffir
We're going to power to outlaw the other one.
We'll burn the Reichstag.
It'll be over.
Or the aliens attack.
joe rogan
The aliens land.
And then we realize.
Remember when Ronald Reagan said that?
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
You never remember that?
ari shaffir
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
Ronald Reagan gave the speech that all the wacky UFO dudes always point to as evidence that the alien invasion is imminent.
It was Ronald Reagan talking about how quickly we would abandon our differences if we faced a threat from an alien world.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And when he said it, people were like, what the fuck did you just say?
Like, it is an interesting way.
ari shaffir
There's no way he would say that other than if there was aliens.
unidentified
Sort of.
joe rogan
He was putting things into perspective.
I mean, it is kind of, we would realize that we are citizens of the world if we were facing a threat from another world.
It would be us versus them.
The ultimate us versus them.
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
Earthlings.
joe rogan
Pull that up, Jamie, because it's quite fascinating.
ari shaffir
Gene Roddenberry's view of the world later was like, Earth comes together.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
So it's a French region, but that's it.
joe rogan
Listen to this, though.
It'll freak you out.
unidentified
Perhaps we need some outside universal threat.
I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.
And yet, I ask you, is not an alien force already among us?
What could be more alien to the universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?
joe rogan
That's a great goddamn speech, by the way.
You know, Ronald Reagan was an old fuck, and he died confused and selling arms to Iran and allegedly forgetting about it.
ari shaffir
He's one of the good Republicans, right?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Depends on who you ask.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I guess so.
joe rogan
Back then he wasn't loved.
I remember when I was a kid, when Ronald Reagan was president, people fucking hated him.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
ari shaffir
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
They hated him, especially towards the end.
ari shaffir
They hate all the guys, all the presidents.
joe rogan
Jimmy Tingle?
Do you know who Jimmy Tingle is?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Jimmy Tingle.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, the political comic?
joe rogan
Political comic.
And back then in Boston, he was just starting to become political.
ari shaffir
He was on a tape of like, expose at the comedy store.
Not expose, but just like new comics.
Here's a show, new comedy night.
And Doug Benson was on it.
Just eating it.
It was hilarious.
I mean, he was just starting.
He was just starting.
joe rogan
How many days have you been into comedy?
ari shaffir
Had he been in?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He must have just moved.
ari shaffir
Less than a year.
joe rogan
Less than a year.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he was on tape?
ari shaffir
Yeah, and then you've got Arsenio Hall because he's watching with Mitzi in the back.
He goes, sometimes you just, I forget what he said, Mike Long's like, you just don't got it.
Go home.
Go home.
joe rogan
He said that about Doug Benson?
ari shaffir
Well, they cut it to make it seem like that.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Wow, that's dark.
ari shaffir
It was pretty funny.
joe rogan
But Jimmy Tingle had the best job.
ari shaffir
2020, that was 2020. It was on 2020?
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was it about?
ari shaffir
The Comedy Store.
joe rogan
Oh, it was just on the Comedy Store.
ari shaffir
And how Mitzi Pats's people.
joe rogan
And Doug Benson was up there bombing on 2020?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I mean, he recovered.
He recovered nicely.
joe rogan
He recovered very well.
He did very well.
ari shaffir
But Jimmy Tingle was on there, too.
That's an example of someone who's a little bit more.
joe rogan
I would have eaten a plate of shit up there, too.
ari shaffir
You would have jumped at the chance to be on 2020, though.
joe rogan
Sure.
Jumped at the chance and ate a fat pile of shit.
ari shaffir
Fat pile.
joe rogan
Jimmy Tingle had this great joke about when...
Ronald Reagan got in trouble for that.
He was testifying in front of Congress.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And they said, you know, did you sell arms to Iran?
And he was like, I do not recall.
ari shaffir
That was the best way of not lying.
joe rogan
Yeah, and Tingle goes, Mr. President, when you sell arms to people who hate us, jot it down.
He goes, write a note.
Put it on your refrigerator.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like in that heavy Boston accent.
unidentified
That's funny.
joe rogan
It's really funny.
There's Jimmy Tingle.
There he is.
He's got 1,536 tweets.
ari shaffir
He's following 11,000 people.
joe rogan
More people should follow him.
He's a funny fucking guy.
ari shaffir
He's got more followers than followers.
joe rogan
There you go.
ari shaffir
Oh, here's what I could tell you to say.
Tell the story of how you got that first development deal.
What Sussman did.
joe rogan
Sussman's a wizard.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I had a development deal to do an offer to do a show on MTV. And how much was that offer, Joe?
I don't remember.
I don't really remember the money.
ari shaffir
The story I heard, I think I remember it being like $500.
joe rogan
It wasn't much.
ari shaffir
Or it's like a technical amount.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It wasn't much.
It was somewhere around that.
It wasn't much at all.
It was like they give you money for a week to do this pilot.
It was really cheap.
And then if you did that pilot, you were locked up for years.
You're locked up for some long-term contract.
So Sussman...
Yeah.
Decided to take my tape and then he was send it out to all these different development companies.
ari shaffir
I love this.
joe rogan
Like, you know, NBC and CBS. Well, he's just a wizard when it comes to planning shit.
So he sent this thing out and said, hey, this guy's about to sign a development deal for MTV. If you want to do something with him, you got to act now.
So you create like this demand.
unidentified
Hype.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then all of a sudden my phone was ringing off the hook.
I had to leave my apartment.
I couldn't stay in my house because people were calling me.
They were saying they were going to send a flight out for me.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
You're going to fly out of LA tonight and meet us in LA. Wow.
Or fly out of New York tonight, meet us in LA in the morning.
And we have a 10 a.m.
morning meeting with this guy at this executive, this fucking network, this fucking thing.
It was craziness, right?
Wow.
I talked to Sussman.
Sussman goes, don't answer the phone.
Just go to the pool hall.
unidentified
I'll call you there.
joe rogan
I didn't even have a cell phone back then.
No one had cell phones.
This is 1993, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I take off.
I go to the pool hall.
Within two days, it had just gotten completely crazy.
And then I think a couple days after that, I had a development deal with Disney.
Disney won out.
And the next thing you know, I was fucking flying out there and talking to these guys.
Yeah.
Flying to L.A. and talking to these people, Gary Valentine stayed in my hotel room with me because Gary was out here huffing, and Kevin James had just won Last Comic Standing.
ari shaffir
Kevin James had won Last Comic Standing.
joe rogan
Not Last Comic Standing, excuse me.
Star Search.
Oh, wow.
Kevin won Star Search, so it was like a big deal.
He definitely won a few rounds, whatever it was.
Maybe he won it.
I don't know.
He was really good.
Kevin James is a very underrated comic.
Very underrated stand-up.
At the time, he was killing it, man.
He was killing it.
He doesn't do it much anymore because he does a lot of movies.
ari shaffir
He does a lot of movies.
joe rogan
But anyway, I got $150,000.
ari shaffir
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
What?
ari shaffir
$150,000?
$150,000?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
$150,000.
unidentified
I went from being broke To $150,000.
joe rogan
It was the craziest thing ever.
And then from then...
ari shaffir
He just used their ability to not be able to decide for themselves.
Like, oh, somebody else likes you?
Hold on.
joe rogan
Well, he was also pissed off because the executives at MTV, they had this idea.
And the idea was that they had created stars.
So they did it with Dennis Leary and Dennis Leary left.
And so they're like, we're not going to do that again.
We create stars.
If you come with us, it'll make you famous.
We don't have to pay you.
So they didn't want to pay much money.
unidentified
They still do that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's still their thing.
It's like, no, no, we make stars.
It's like, sometimes.
joe rogan
Not anymore, you know.
ari shaffir
The shows you remember.
joe rogan
Listen, that fucking boat has sailed.
That boat is gone.
It's not in the harbor.
You can't even see it on the horizon.
That's a joke.
There's a million fucking cable channels now.
The idea that your one network is valuable is preposterous.
Back then, it was valuable because there weren't that many fucking channels.
There was no history channel, discovery channel, sci-fi, Spike TV. All that shit didn't exist.
ari shaffir
So MTV... Fucking Netflix now, where there's Xbox that's starting their own channel.
joe rogan
It's over.
It's over.
DirecTV has their own shows.
Back then, it was like MTV had remote control, and MTV created Jenny McCarthy.
ari shaffir
Remote.
joe rogan
Yep.
And they created Chris Hardwick.
A lot of people forget that.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
With that Jenny McCarthy show.
joe rogan
He was the fucking guy.
He was on it with...
And for the longest time, Jenny McCarthy was a famous one, and Chris Hardwick was the one that nobody knew who the fuck he was, and he vanished.
ari shaffir
Wow, now he's humongous.
joe rogan
Now Chris Hardwick is bawling because of the podcast world.
He took over the podcast world.
ari shaffir
And the nerds.
joe rogan
That's Chris Hardwick.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
With Jenny McCarthy and some chick who's got a nice ass.
Very nice.
unidentified
Carmen Electra.
joe rogan
Carmen Electra.
Pow!
That's what I'm talking about.
That's a booty for the ages.
ari shaffir
Carmen Electra was on that show?
joe rogan
Yep.
ari shaffir
Oh, wow.
Look at Chris Hardwick there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is all when I was an open mic-er.
This shit was going on.
ari shaffir
He had a good joke when we were in open mics together.
When he was still drinking.
This weekend I learned something.
At a wedding.
It's never okay to spill beer on a baby.
unidentified
Ooh!
joe rogan
It's true.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's true.
What was that other show?
MTV Remote Control.
Remember that?
ari shaffir
Yeah, Remote Control.
That made Colin Quinn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Adam Sandler.
joe rogan
It didn't really, though.
It made Adam Sandler.
Colin Quinn, people didn't know who he was.
ari shaffir
It didn't even really make them.
It got them known to be on Silent Night Live.
It got them a little fame.
joe rogan
Where's Ken Ober?
Remember that guy?
ari shaffir
Did he do remote control?
joe rogan
Oh, he died.
ari shaffir
Oh, congratulations.
joe rogan
He died in 2009. Damn.
ari shaffir
Fucking Verizon will not turn on my internet service.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
In New York.
joe rogan
He's 52. Complaining of headaches, chronic chest pain, flu-like symptoms.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Wow.
ari shaffir
Heart attack?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
That's fucked.
Look at Colin Quinn there.
Holy shit.
ari shaffir
Where is he?
joe rogan
On the far right.
Who's the guy laying down?
unidentified
Probably a contestant, maybe.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Remote Control.
That was another big MTV show.
And it was supposed to be taking place in Ken Ober's basement.
The idea was that his parents had a basement and he always wanted to have his own show, so he put his show together.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah.
They had a show with the chick from the Brady Bunch.
It was a talk show called Ober and Olsen.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dennis Leary was on Remote Control, too.
That's what launched him.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then MTV started doing these things with him.
All these little promo clips.
Hilarious promo clips.
ari shaffir
Yeah, a little rant.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And that's sort of what made him.
Yeah, I remember those.
Showtime special, whatever it was.
Showtime, HBO, whatever the fuck is special.
Look at that fucking now.
Adam Sandler.
Look at the girl's hair behind him.
ari shaffir
Wow.
That's like from his show, that 80s show, The Wedding Singer.
joe rogan
God damn, the 80s were weird.
That is so weird.
Look at the 80s, man.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
What year was this shit?
1989, I think.
1987. Don't guess, son.
ari shaffir
You're in front of a fucking computer.
1989, I think.
joe rogan
How dare you.
unidentified
I'm looking at a picture.
joe rogan
Don't guess.
Don't guess.
Always look.
It was in syndication, 89 to 90. Really?
Yeah.
It ran for five seasons from 87 to 1990. They had five seasons in three years?
I don't know how you do that.
ari shaffir
MTV seasons?
joe rogan
Yeah.
MTV's first original non-musical program.
Wow.
ari shaffir
Wow, really?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
New episodes were made for first-run syndication.
ari shaffir
How do you convince an executive, like, hey, I want to do something on your network that you just don't do?
joe rogan
I don't know.
ari shaffir
They don't do any music.
joe rogan
Break it up a little bit.
The people that I talked to that were over there, they wanted to break it up a bit.
Oh, you know who it also made?
ari shaffir
Who?
joe rogan
Carrie Werrer.
You remember her?
Carrie Werrer.
She is still hot.
ari shaffir
She's 47. Well, that picture hasn't aged.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look at the picture.
ari shaffir
That's her now?
joe rogan
No.
No.
That's her from back then.
But if you see, there's a picture of her now on Wikipedia.
ari shaffir
She's cute.
joe rogan
She's still hot.
She's got that sexy milf thing going on.
Kapow kapow!
unidentified
Is that her now?
joe rogan
That's her today?
Damn, still in shape.
ari shaffir
Still in shape.
joe rogan
Powerful character.
ari shaffir
Were her?
joe rogan
I was on Politically Incorrect with her.
ari shaffir
Oh really?
joe rogan
Way back in the day, like in 1990-something, I think.
I think it was like, I want to say it was the Fear Factor days, but it might have been before that.
It might have been the news radio days.
I'm not even sure.
I know I was on at least once.
Yeah, there's Carrie...
Oh, wow.
Carrie...
unidentified
I don't even know who she is.
ari shaffir
I don't remember her at all.
joe rogan
She's hot as fuck, dude.
ari shaffir
Look at you back in the news radio days.
Sexy as fuck.
joe rogan
Full head of hair.
Almost.
Almost full.
Starting to go.
ari shaffir
It was one of those kind of shirts, too.
joe rogan
I love those big...
ari shaffir
Over the elbow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
A little bit of color.
joe rogan
That, I think, was the news radio days.
And then after that was the...
I did it again on Fear Factor.
ari shaffir
Oh, that shirt?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, that show.
ari shaffir
Oh.
joe rogan
Politically Incorrect.
That was before he got in trouble.
Remember he got in trouble for saying that we're cowards for fucking launching this?
ari shaffir
That's why I lost respect for him.
joe rogan
Why'd you lose respect for him?
ari shaffir
Not for that.
joe rogan
Because he didn't stand up for it?
ari shaffir
No, because when I saw him this first show on HBO afterwards, he like cursed and he goes, this is why we wanted to come here.
This is why we wanted to get off network and come here.
I was like, bitch, you got thrown off.
unidentified
Ha!
ari shaffir
Quit pretending like you were responsible for that.
You begged for your job back.
joe rogan
Dude, he's a rebel.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Do you not know he's a rebel?
ari shaffir
He's a reverend.
That's what I like about him the most.
He's a reverend.
joe rogan
Dude, he's a rebel.
ari shaffir
Fucking Verizon made me wait three times all day long for goddamn technicians who never showed up.
joe rogan
What does that have to do with Carrie Warwick?
ari shaffir
Nothing.
I just keep thinking about it.
joe rogan
You're all angry, bro.
ari shaffir
I'm supposed to come on Saturday.
joe rogan
Verizon?
ari shaffir
Verizon Internet.
joe rogan
Are you fucking, you're really angry at them right now?
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's the worst.
And you call them, you're like, I get so angry at the customer service.
I know they're not to blame, but it's like, fucking, what time are they going to be?
Stop saying you're sorry!
unidentified
Stop it!
ari shaffir
It's an insult!
joe rogan
Ugh!
ari shaffir
Three days I've given up.
Just waiting there for people to don't show up.
I still really guarantee you to be on by 5pm today.
joe rogan
You're very upset.
Dude, you know how you go to someone's page and you know them on Twitter but they don't follow you and you get sad?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's why I just went to Carrie Werwer's page.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
But I'm not following her.
ari shaffir
You just remembered her for the first time in 20 years.
joe rogan
Listen, easy.
I'm trying to be nice.
ari shaffir
Are you looking at her recent pics?
joe rogan
No, I just followed her on Twitter.
ari shaffir
Put up her recent pics.
joe rogan
Put them up?
This is pretty, man.
ari shaffir
Yeah, let me see.
joe rogan
She's hanging in there.
You know what?
I saw a TV show the other day and Wonder Woman was on it.
ari shaffir
Oh, you can't put them up?
Really?
joe rogan
Linda Carter.
ari shaffir
How is she?
joe rogan
Time's a motherfucker.
Time is such a motherfucker.
Linda Picard?
ari shaffir
Time, time, time.
See what's become of me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look what's become of her.
You ever see that chick?
ari shaffir
Oh, the Bengals girl?
No.
joe rogan
Not so good.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I'm confused.
She's actually still pretty.
For whatever reason.
unidentified
Hoff?
joe rogan
I associated her with Grace Slick from Jefferson Starship.
ari shaffir
The tall black lady?
joe rogan
No, that's Grace Jones.
That was the one who dated Dolph Lundgren.
No, no, no.
She didn't date Flavor Flav.
No, Flavor Flav was the girl who used to be married to Sylvester Stallone.
ari shaffir
Who was that?
joe rogan
Brigitte Nielsen, yeah.
She was the one who dated Flavor Flav.
You're confusing everybody, man.
ari shaffir
I barely know you actors.
I barely fucking know you.
That's your legacy.
joe rogan
Grace Slick was the lead singer of Jefferson's Starship.
ari shaffir
I need to get a lot of those mixed up.
joe rogan
Gray Slick was hot at one point in time.
Time's a motherfucker, dude.
Time doesn't wait.
Time gives no fucks.
Time keeps swinging.
Even if you're down, time kicks you.
ari shaffir
Let's wrap it up, but this is a comeback to the beginning.
It was cool being at that Forbidden City and the Great Wall of China and touching these walls.
You're like, this has been here for a long time.
joe rogan
Yeah, what did that feel like?
ari shaffir
It just was this cool connection to the past.
I mean, it's not real, but just imagine this, like, emperors have been by here and touched this.
joe rogan
How about the Mongols?
They built it to fucking fight off the steppe people.
That's what they did.
They built it to separate.
ari shaffir
Imagine walking through the forest, trudging and marching through the forest, up and down mountains, these mountainy forests, and then you're getting not even close to their land, and then all of a sudden you're like, what?
The giant wall?
joe rogan
That you can see from space.
ari shaffir
How do we get the horses up there?
I'll go around.
You march three miles.
Guys, do we even know which way is the end of this?
There's no end.
joe rogan
How long is that wall?
Look at you, you sexy bitch with no shirt holding the fucking Chinese flag.
ari shaffir
Respect!
I love taking my shirt off there.
They do this thing all Chinese bikini.
They just tuck this up.
The men walk around like that.
joe rogan
Why did you like taking your shirt off?
ari shaffir
I love taking my shirt off.
joe rogan
Well, I know.
ari shaffir
Got a little sun in me.
joe rogan
Okay.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Alright, keep your clothes on.
Don't get wear with me here.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I walked out to the top pots where people like stop walking and then this one guy's like, you go another this many kilometers, that's like Tower 23, that's as far as you can go.
And I was like, I guess I'm doing it.
joe rogan
So you walked all the way to the end.
ari shaffir
It was so hot and so humid and so many steps, irregular shaped steps.
It was so hard.
joe rogan
How long is the Great Wall?
What is the total distance?
ari shaffir
Dude, we got up somewhere.
We got up somewhere near the toboggan to get down.
joe rogan
Okay, let's find out.
ari shaffir
But yeah, it's the only man-made object viewable from space.
joe rogan
The Great Wall of China.
Jesus Christ.
5,500 miles.
That's insane.
Is that right?
ari shaffir
5,000 what?
joe rogan
5,500 miles?
Is that right?
ari shaffir
Longer than the United States of America.
It goes up and gets windy too.
It goes up and over things.
joe rogan
Is that really right?
ari shaffir
Maybe.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
ari shaffir
What kind of undertaking was that?
joe rogan
That's like some pyramid level shit, right?
ari shaffir
How many deaths?
joe rogan
You really think about it.
It's 8,850 kilometers, which is 5,000.
ari shaffir
And it's not just a straight up wall.
There's ways to stand it.
There's elements that you can stick your arrow through and fire down without getting shot.
It's all built well.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
I didn't know it was that long.
ari shaffir
It goes on forever.
joe rogan
I figured it was like 100 miles.
That's what I thought in my head.
I was like, eh, 100 miles.
ari shaffir
That seems like long enough.
joe rogan
That's the not-so-great wall.
ari shaffir
That's a wall.
joe rogan
Look how far it goes.
That's crazy.
Oh, my God.
We're looking at a map right now.
It's Greater Great Wall.
That's what it says?
Is that what it says?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
A Greater Great Wall.
Extended sections.
unidentified
They're making it bigger.
joe rogan
What?
Why would they keep building a wall?
ari shaffir
They do this a lot, where they go, we're going to redo all this stuff.
We're going to upkeep it.
And they just replace the wood.
They replace the stuff.
They're just like, as if someone was still living here, we're just going to keep it going.
unidentified
Wow.
ari shaffir
That's weird.
And it shows date built, and then date renovated will be like 45 years ago.
joe rogan
Right, but why would they extend it?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
Make it more of a...
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is it a tourist trap?
Is that what it is?
They're extending it for...
ari shaffir
More tourist traps?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I went outside Beijing...
Wow.
Jesus.
joe rogan
Why else would they do that?
It doesn't make any sense.
Did you know that South Korea was smooshed up against China like that?
ari shaffir
Where's...
joe rogan
Look at that.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Right over there.
unidentified
Jeez.
joe rogan
That's an insane...
Look, it's so much bigger than Korea.
It's fucking huge!
I can't believe the wall was that big.
Maybe they just hate Pink Floyd.
It's like, don't tell me.
No, I'll build it up.
ari shaffir
I'll build it up.
Even years after this is relevant as a defense force.
joe rogan
Keep building, fuck you.
Did you ever see the renovations they're doing to the Sphinx?
ari shaffir
No, what are they doing?
joe rogan
It's kind of sad.
ari shaffir
Putting their nose back on?
joe rogan
No, they fix up the feet and shit.
And they're patching up the body.
But they're not really.
What they're doing is they're building their own version of it.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because they're covering over the Sphinx.
Like, they're making the feet all smooth.
Like, Jamie, pull up.
ari shaffir
The actual stone has something to it.
unidentified
Yeah, fuck yeah.
ari shaffir
This is what's been here.
Not the design.
This is what's been here.
This object.
joe rogan
It's just a really soft stone, and it's all worn out and shit.
It's thousands of years old.
ari shaffir
Oh, let it fall down.
joe rogan
Yeah, no shit, but they don't do that.
ari shaffir
See how long it lasts on its own.
joe rogan
Look at these pictures, because it's kind of gross, because what they're doing is they're making the feet all smooth and shit, and where the paws are was totally irregular.
ari shaffir
Jamie, let's go to the videotape!
unidentified
I'm trying.
joe rogan
Survey says...
What do you...
I found a page that was an Egyptian...
Just look up images.
Do a Google search on images.
ari shaffir
Jamie, instead of failing, why don't you not fail?
joe rogan
How about you don't fail, you fucker?
See the right-hand corner?
That shit is all just renovation.
That's not what the feet originally looked like.
ari shaffir
What is it?
What do they go over it?
joe rogan
See all those little bricks?
ari shaffir
Yeah?
joe rogan
It was originally carved out of one unique set of stone.
ari shaffir
Oh, they're just putting new bricks on it.
joe rogan
Yes, they're smoothing it all out.
It was what's called a yardang.
What a yardang is, is something that comes up out of the desert and then they shape it.
It's like, it comes up out of the ground, like a rock structure would be a yardang.
ari shaffir
This is just bricks?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
Exactly.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
It's so stupid.
See if you can get some other photos of it.
You can see the photo.
ari shaffir
See what it was like before.
joe rogan
Yeah, see if there's that.
But there's a full image of the Sphinx where you could see it from a distance and you get a real sense of what a travesty that is.
What they're doing is really kind of fucked up.
ari shaffir
It's just too bad.
joe rogan
They're making their own shit.
Like, those feet are not the original Sphinx feet.
They're all smooth and bricks all over them.
The rest of the Sphinx used to be, like, everything below the head, all jacked up and fucked up.
ari shaffir
Why did they make the Sphinx?
Sphinx?
Ward off some, like, demon or something?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Well, the thinking is, rather, that originally it was a lion.
And that one of the pharaohs was like, fuck that lion head.
Make that shit my head.
Because their face is fairly African, so they believe that it took place after the Nubians conquered Egypt.
Because there were two...
different types of people that were rural in Egypt.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
There were the Sephardic people, the original Egyptian people, which are always depicted as, you know, like Arab-looking folks.
Yeah.
Like Cleopatra was always depicted that way Arabic, a little bit.
ari shaffir
Stacy Dash.
joe rogan
Well, they actually look kind of strange.
Have you ever seen what Tutankhamen really looked like?
A recreation of Tutankhamen?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Ooh, it's weird.
ari shaffir
What does it look like?
joe rogan
He had a weird head, man.
He had an elongated skull.
His whole family had elongated skulls.
And they had sculptures that were drawn of him.
That was a recreation of what he looked like.
But that doesn't look as weird as when you see a side profile.
He died super young, too.
unidentified
I think he died like 17 or 18 or something.
joe rogan
But look at what his skull looks like.
Like, they were freaks, man.
ari shaffir
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And I don't remember who his father was.
See if you can find out who his father was.
I think his father was, I want to say Tut Moses, but I might be wrong.
But whoever his father was.
ari shaffir
Like a chicken from Kids in the Hole.
joe rogan
Yeah, Akhenaten.
Akhenaten, yeah, that was what it was.
And Akhenaten had this very strangely shaped head.
And they have these sculptures that were created of Akhenaten.
I mean, he looks like a goddamn alien.
Look at it.
Look at what he looked like.
Look at his fucking head.
And they don't know whether or not that was a result of headbinding.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, maybe it was that.
joe rogan
Could be, but it also could be some weird genetic issue that some of those guys had, and that's one of the reasons why they headbound in the first place, to try to recreate that.
That it might have been...
ari shaffir
Oh, right.
joe rogan
You know, like, some people have, like, strange lips.
Some people have big jaws.
Some people have, you know...
They might have just naturally had weird-shaped heads, and they became bad motherfuckers, and then they all interbred.
There was a lot of that going on.
Royal blood, fucking other royal blood.
ari shaffir
Some player at Florida State had a head like that.
Bob Soura, maybe.
joe rogan
That way?
ari shaffir
Yeah, it was all weird in the back.
It looked like the alien from Enemy Mind.
joe rogan
Look at that head.
See if you can pull up a picture.
Hold on.
Was that...
unidentified
That's the skull of...
joe rogan
That's his real head?
unidentified
Cotton.
Cotton.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
It's good to come.
unidentified
Cotton.
joe rogan
That's Tutankhamen.
Is that Tutankhamen or Akhenaten?
jamie vernon
The JPEG says it's Akhenaten.
joe rogan
Hmm.
Was Tutankhamen Akhenaten?
Not the same guy.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
That's a crazy fucking head, though.
Look at his head.
It's like an extra three inches wide.
Or long, rather.
ari shaffir
Stop right there.
joe rogan
So strange.
So who is the dude?
ari shaffir
No, it wasn't Bob Sur.
It was a black one.
joe rogan
Black Bob Sur's head.
ari shaffir
No, it wasn't.
It was this black player that he played with at Florida State that went to the pros afterwards and he shaved his head.
Fuck, I forgot where he played.
joe rogan
And he had a crazy shaped head?
ari shaffir
Crazy shaped head.
joe rogan
What would you do if you had a crazy shaped head and you had your head shaved?
ari shaffir
Not shave my head.
joe rogan
But what if you had to?
What if you're a black guy and you're going bald?
Black guys can't rock like the side, like, you know.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Doesn't, you know, you can't have side hair and bald on top.
ari shaffir
It looks goofy.
joe rogan
It doesn't look good.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you do?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Do you think they do something about that?
They put, like, implants in there to shape the back of your head better?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Well, think about all the shit that they do do.
Think about all the shit they do for, like, the...
ari shaffir
Straighten their hair.
joe rogan
I read an article recently about South Korea.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the thing about South Korea...
unidentified
Eyeballs?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
It's crazy.
It's so common.
ari shaffir
Yeah, they do it in China too.
joe rogan
Girls are getting their eyeballs done.
It's like a rite of passage.
ari shaffir
You gotta cut them so you can have an over lip on your eyebrows, on your eyelashes, whatever that's called.
joe rogan
An over lip?
ari shaffir
It's like ours fold over.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
ari shaffir
Theirs don't fold over.
joe rogan
Oh shit.
ari shaffir
So they want to get them to look like they fold over.
So they get the surgery.
joe rogan
What do they look like with their eyes closed?
ari shaffir
I think normal with her eyes closed.
And then when it's up, there's no lip.
You know how it folds over on the top?
joe rogan
Yeah.
In South Korea...
ari shaffir
I think Bobby's mom got that surgery.
joe rogan
Bobby Lee?
ari shaffir
Yeah, she's Korean.
Boom.
Boom, that proves it.
joe rogan
Why doesn't Bobby get it done?
How weird would that be if all of a sudden Bobby Lee had these crazy...
ari shaffir
Like what?
Weird eyes?
Your eyes don't belong on you.
Sam Cassell!
That's it!
Pull up Sam Cassell!
joe rogan
Sam Cassell's head?
ari shaffir
Yeah!
See the one that won a Heisman and still played basketball?
That was Charlie Ward.
Put up Sam Cassell's head.
Yeah, side angle of Cassell.
joe rogan
Look at this shit.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it gets rid of their things.
joe rogan
Before and after.
Let me see.
Pull up a picture of that dude's face.
Or a head, rather.
It's hard to tell in that picture.
Did you pull up Sam Cassell's head?
Yeah, do a Google search, son.
Learn how to internet.
Isn't this ridiculous?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did an amazing job.
ari shaffir
With her whole face.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Everything about her face was different.
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
I mean, she became super hot.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
So I guess it's worth it.
It's like one of the rare instances where some of these...
ari shaffir
She has George Muir's own head.
joe rogan
Like, it's super effective.
Some of these girls...
ari shaffir
You gotta get a little more back, but that still looks at the start of it.
joe rogan
That's pretty Akhenaten.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's pretty nuts.
ari shaffir
Sam Cassell.
joe rogan
That's a weird fucking head, man.
That was a weird head, son.
Look at this one.
Want to see a crazy one?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at this South Korean transformation.
I mean, this is...
unidentified
Look at this.
ari shaffir
I thought you were showing me that.
unidentified
Look at this.
ari shaffir
Wow.
Wow.
She went to what?
To wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at that.
ari shaffir
What?
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Pull up some...
ari shaffir
She looks like an old lady.
unidentified
I know.
ari shaffir
And then she looks like an amazing 24-year-old.
joe rogan
Yep.
She looked disgusting and then hot.
And it's clearly, if you see the jawline, it's clearly the same woman.
They must have done a lot of shit on her.
Look up South Korea eye surgery and you can see that image.
There's a bunch of them, man.
It's super common.
ari shaffir
What's it called?
There's a phrase for it.
Sakapult?
joe rogan
I don't know.
That's a good question.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's nuts.
ari shaffir
She got rid of her chin.
joe rogan
She's a dime.
Know how to use the word dime?
Like I'm a black man?
ari shaffir
Yeah, like you talked to Ian Edwards.
joe rogan
Ian, I'm a dime, son!
ari shaffir
She looks like she has Down syndrome in the first one.
And then she looks gorgeous.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
She looks like Down syndrome.
joe rogan
Wow.
Yeah, there's a whole website dedicated.
It's called 30 Startling Before and After South Korean Plastic Surgery Pictures.
Wow.
It's like an advertisement for plastic surgery.
I guess that's why it's so common.
Look at that.
Look at that one.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Because it works.
ari shaffir
Changed your life.
joe rogan
Yeah, really.
I mean, all of a sudden.
Did you hear about that one guy who sued his wife because his kids were ugly?
ari shaffir
It turned out that she had gotten plastic surgery.
Wow.
That's rude.
joe rogan
I think he won, too.
Yeah.
Hold on.
Man sues wife because kids were ugly.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're ugly.
ari shaffir
Oh wow, the dudes look good too.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah, he looks a lot better.
Holy shit.
That's incredible.
Man successfully sues wife over ugly children.
ari shaffir
Successfully?
What country?
America?
joe rogan
Fuck no, son.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
Please.
unidentified
Spain?
joe rogan
A Chinese man divorced his wife and sued her for giving birth to what he called extremely ugly baby girl.
At first, he thought his wife had cheated on him because there was no way a good-looking guy like him could have or even produce such an unattractive thing.
ari shaffir
Is that a real article?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's the same lady.
That was the image, actually.
It was her.
That was her.
ari shaffir
What's that from?
Arabia.msn.
joe rogan
It was MSN. And then they showed the image of the chick and then the image of the kids and the image of the woman.
She was stupid hot at the end.
Look at how hot she was.
She's there with him.
So he thought he had, like, the super hottie.
ari shaffir
Golly.
Oh, look at those ugly kids.
Look at those fucking ugly kids.
Their mouths go down.
joe rogan
Oh, they're fucking kids.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
How rude.
Can't he take them in for a little chop and snip?
ari shaffir
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Can't do it to babies, though.
ari shaffir
Oh, because they'll grow out of it.
joe rogan
They'll fuck them up.
Imagine a nightmare.
What an asshole you'd have to be to give plastic surgery to a baby.
ari shaffir
Look at this fat little son.
joe rogan
Isn't that weird, man?
That's so weird that people are doing that.
They're doing it so much that it's changing the way they envision a woman should look.
So much so that it's super, super common.
Super common.
Weird, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just a strange thing.
And so oddly effective, too.
South Korea now has the highest number of surgeries performed per capita, overtaking Brazil as the plastic surgery capital of the world.
ari shaffir
Brazil's all ass implants.
No, they don't need any of them.
Ass reductions?
joe rogan
Probably.
South Korean women have become so immersed in Western celebrity culture that double eyelid surgery, that's what it's called, which creates the Caucasian crease many Asians don't naturally have, has become as common as going to the dentist.
ari shaffir
Wow.
Okay, I gotta go to sleep.
joe rogan
That's as common as going to the dentist.
Think about that.
I want you to jerk off and think about plastic surgery in South Korea.
Meanwhile, the doctor that does it...
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Asian as fuck looking.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Can't do it to himself.
joe rogan
Nope.
He's not interested.
ari shaffir
Doesn't trust anyone else with lesser talent than him.
joe rogan
He's like, this is stupid.
These people are crazy.
ari shaffir
There's no reason for it.
I can do beautifully.
joe rogan
I'll take that money and blend in.
unidentified
Debunked!
joe rogan
It's debunked?
Probably false.
ari shaffir
It rang untrue to me.
joe rogan
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
It's probably false.
I feel like I just got ripped off.
What did you get that from?
What debunked it?
ari shaffir
The way he was quoting too casually.
I'm in a way with a good looking man like me.
joe rogan
Eh, probably you're right.
Damn it.
Motherfuckers.
Ari Shafir, where can the ladies and gentlemen see you doing your stand-up?
ari shaffir
Well, I'll be in Calgary in September, middle of September at Yuck Yucks, and I guess I'll be in Chicago.
joe rogan
Calgary, Yuck Yucks, I heard.
ari shaffir
For one date on 26th.
joe rogan
Calgary's fun, dude.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, it's great.
joe rogan
Didn't you do Calgary with me?
ari shaffir
A few times, a few times.
joe rogan
Fun times.
ari shaffir
I saw your rye's there.
joe rogan
Those are fucking animals.
My rye's?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
It's been like two years.
You sold out, but you had trouble selling out that place.
And next year, no press, sold out two shows.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
ari shaffir
Two years later.
joe rogan
Were there those people behind us?
Remember?
Jack Singer?
ari shaffir
Jack Singer, yeah.
joe rogan
That was crazy.
There was people behind us, remember?
Like, they were up above.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They turned around and waved to them.
Like, alright.
ari shaffir
Was that there?
Was that that one?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That was also the place where they oversold it and they didn't know what to do.
So they put seats on the stage.
On the stage.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's what I mean.
joe rogan
You remember?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Like the giant stage.
We don't need all that room.
joe rogan
But they were going to not do it.
They were going to give those people their money back and send them home.
And so I said, well, you know, that's okay.
If you want to seat them on the stage, you can seat them on the stage.
And so there was like a powwow and a meeting.
And they go, okay, we're going to put seats on the stage.
ari shaffir
They just ran out chairs out there.
joe rogan
And there was like 200 fucking people on the stage.
ari shaffir
Good Canadian unions.
They fucking got that shit set up in no time.
joe rogan
How many people were on the stage?
There was a lot of goddamn people on the stage.
ari shaffir
There was at least 150, maybe 200. There was madness.
On the stage.
joe rogan
That was fun, man.
Calgary's good.
Those towns like Edmonton, Calgary, there's a lot of oil money.
Those fucking folks have a lot of oil money.
ari shaffir
They know how to party.
joe rogan
And they party.
They party hard.
They go hard.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
We did Lloydminster.
Lloydminster's like a mining town.
Really?
Hours from Edmonton.
ari shaffir
That's cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like they look at Edmonton like, oh, look at him up in the city.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
We did a show in a hockey rink.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Callan, Tony Hinchcliffe, and me.
In a hockey rink in Lloydminster.
Had a great fucking time.
Sound system was kind of dog shit.
It threw me off a little bit.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was tough, because it was echoing a lot, and I was on the side when Callan was on stage.
ari shaffir
So you could hear it not being clear.
joe rogan
I couldn't hear him.
ari shaffir
Damn.
joe rogan
I was on the side, and I could barely understand what he was saying, and I knew his act.
ari shaffir
Man, sound matters.
joe rogan
The people in front got it good.
Fuck yeah, it matters.
ari shaffir
People want to be like, no, the crowd's here to have a good time.
I know, and you're not making them have as good a time.
joe rogan
As good a time as they could.
All they had to do was set it up a little bit better.
Put speakers in some different areas.
But now we know.
They don't do shows up there.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's a thing.
They're trying to figure it out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You met Harvey, the promoter guy?
unidentified
Yeah, I met Harvey.
joe rogan
He's a good dude.
So we did it up there with him.
ari shaffir
All right.
joe rogan
This fucking show's over, Ari Shafir.
This is the second of two podcasts we did today.
ari shaffir
It's nice seeing you again, man.
joe rogan
It's great to see you always, brother.
ari shaffir
Hey, I sold that couch, so we gotta go to dinner sometime soon.
unidentified
Ha ha ha!
joe rogan
The original couch from the original Joe Rogan Experience podcast, I gave it to Ari years ago.
He kept it in his apartment.
unidentified
It was great.
ari shaffir
It was the nicest thing in my apartment for five years easy.
joe rogan
Very nice couch.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so then some dude bought it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much you got for that fucking thing?
ari shaffir
540 bucks or something.
unidentified
Holy shit.
ari shaffir
We're going to a nice place.
Yeah, eBay.
joe rogan
Dude, let's go to like Morton's.
ari shaffir
Yeah, something really nice.
joe rogan
Have a steak and a glass of wine like gentlemen.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
All right, let's do it.
Follow Ari on Twitter, Ari Shafir, A-R-I-S-H-A-F-F-I-R. And you can also get his stand-up comedy.
You have two stand-up comedy CDs that are available, two comedy specials that are available.
ari shaffir
No, I have one.
Now, Chill went down, so I guess Comedy Central is going to buy it and put it up.
joe rogan
What went down?
ari shaffir
Chill, the website that did mine and Maria's and Proops's.
joe rogan
So you can't buy it anywhere now?
ari shaffir
Can't buy it right now.
joe rogan
What?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
So Revenge for the Holocaust is still out.
ari shaffir
But there are illegal downloads that you can find.
unidentified
Oh, good.
ari shaffir
If you go to Views Player and put in Passive Aggressive, Ari Shaffir, you can probably find a seed for it.
joe rogan
But Revenge for the Holocaust is still out.
ari shaffir
That's out, yes.
joe rogan
That's out.
And the other one is not out.
ari shaffir
Not out.
joe rogan
God damn.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Passive Aggressive is just out there in the ether somewhere.
ari shaffir
We're getting it up.
joe rogan
But right now, they got the green light.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
To hit the torrents.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
joe rogan
Beautiful green light.
Powerful green light.
ari shaffir
Oh, and I have a storyteller show on Monday at Union Hall, but there's only like 40 seats.
joe rogan
New York?
ari shaffir
Yeah, New York.
joe rogan
Oh, beautiful.
ari shaffir
Miss Pat's doing it.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
Miss Pat's going to be on the podcast.
ari shaffir
Oh, you're going to love her.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You're going to love her.
joe rogan
I keep hearing that, man.
She's going to be on the podcast on, I think...
ari shaffir
She's such a nice, warm...
joe rogan
29th.
Tuesday of 29th.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, July 29th.
ari shaffir
Awesome.
joe rogan
Alright, you dirty fucks.
We love the shit out of you.
We appreciate you very much.
And I appreciate it even more after being gone for a week.
I enjoyed this.
This is an awesome day.
Alright, we'll be back tomorrow with the dude from Unbox Therapy and lots of podcasts coming up.
Fight Companion on Saturday.
Brendan Schaub and me.
Gonna watch the fights together.
Alright, much love.
Big kiss.
See you soon.
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