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May 22, 2014 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #505 - Matt Farah & Alex Ross
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alex ross
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matt farah
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joe rogan
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joe rogan
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That's back to phone sex.
By the way, that shit never works, right?
That's like the worst fucking useless voice that's a cliche ever.
It's the sexy phone girl.
Because no one thinks that's sexy.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Like, if a girl's talking to you like, hey, big boy.
She's 300 pounds.
What kind of grossness?
It's 1958. What is that disaster on the other end talking to you?
alex ross
She's like 90. She's probably cutting her nails.
joe rogan
The only one that's like it is the scary voice.
unidentified
Welcome to my home.
joe rogan
That's not scary.
matt farah
That fucking Dracula?
joe rogan
Right?
That's not scary.
matt farah
That's like sitcom Dracula.
unidentified
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alex ross
Oh yeah, it's a Sesame Street, dude.
joe rogan
You gotta talk right into that, Alex.
alex ross
Oh, sorry, dude.
joe rogan
It's a Sesame Street.
No, just pull it up towards you.
It moves around a little bit.
matt farah
That was Danny Trejo, by the way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Cue music, young Jamie.
Let's get this fucking podcast started officially.
We're done with commercials.
Danny Trejo?
That was Danny Trejo?
matt farah
Yeah, you're a vampire.
You're a vampire.
joe rogan
I was trying to do Joe Rogan.
unidentified
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joe rogan
Hey everybody!
Today on the podcast we have Alex Ross from Shark Works.
Porsche aficionado, builder, developer.
Are you like an engineer, a designer, creator of the greatest fucking car the world has ever known?
Matt Farah today, Matt Farah of the Smoking Tire.
You might know him from many of the internet shows that you put out.
The Fuel TV show, the YouTube shows you put out.
matt farah
And as of Saturday, NBC Sports.
joe rogan
And as of Saturday, NBC Sports, congratulations, young man.
You and Chris Harris are my two favorite internet journalists.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Because you're both regular dudes who fucking really love cars.
matt farah
He's not a regular dude.
He's a maniac.
joe rogan
He's a maniac.
unidentified
He's a fucking maniac.
joe rogan
He's crazier than you.
matt farah
He's way crazier than you.
joe rogan
Way crazier than the way he drives.
What you guys are is people who have a real passion for automotive engineering and design and the history behind it and the kind of cars.
You're a fucking car nut, dude.
matt farah
Big world.
A lot of things to appreciate.
joe rogan
When we were on the road today, one of the things I thought was fascinating was cars would drive by and you're like, oh, 84 Supra.
Look at that.
You hear the whine.
matt farah
You had all these.
joe rogan
Every fucking car.
You're a legit 100% car nut.
alex ross
Yeah.
That's cool.
joe rogan
I pale in comparison.
matt farah
That guy was a fan, wasn't he?
Yeah, that guy was a fan.
He had a roll bar.
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy was fun.
matt farah
Track day, bro.
joe rogan
He was funny.
He turned around and came back just to see what the fuck was up.
matt farah
Well, we did have some metal out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was some metal out there.
matt farah
Some fine cars.
Alex and James have built us.
joe rogan
So Alex is the guy who, did you find, Shark Works, you're the founder of it too, right?
You don't say find, you say created and started.
matt farah
No, he found it.
joe rogan
Did you find it somewhere?
matt farah
He didn't found it.
joe rogan
It just so happened to have your nickname as the name of the company, Sharky.
What a coincidence, that's crazy.
alex ross
Yeah, and I figured why not.
joe rogan
Fuck it, this is a sign from God.
I just found this thing, and this is what I love to do anyway.
matt farah
He happened to find this tuner company called Sharkboy.
alex ross
They couldn't even spell it correctly.
joe rogan
Everybody looked for the O, and there's no O. What is this work?
matt farah
German, you assholes!
joe rogan
German cars.
I get it, I get it, I get it.
They're being crafty.
It's like comedy with a K, when it's comedy night.
unidentified
Kooky comedy with a K. Like a morning zoo?
joe rogan
Yeah, like the kooky comedy club, KKK. Does that exist somewhere?
Probably.
If it doesn't, it will.
All things will happen eventually.
matt farah
It's at least going to be a Twitter handle in the next few days, for sure.
joe rogan
In the last fucking few minutes, people are probably jumping on it right now trying to figure it out.
matt farah
Are we live?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, we are?
joe rogan
Okay, cool.
So Alex builds cars, and what he does is he takes what's arguably the greatest race car for the street in the world, which is a Porsche, a GT3, and he turns them into these ridiculous GT3s.
These GT3s on performance-enhancing drugs, EPO, and all those Lance Armstrong chemicals.
These fucking cars are just completely different animals, man.
They're fucking fun.
alex ross
Thanks, man.
joe rogan
Really loud and interesting.
alex ross
You just pull at them a little.
You find the parts you like, like the high-revving nature, the steering, and the whole delivery, the way the power comes on and just builds and builds, and you just pull at that a little more.
matt farah
Seems to accentuate the existing character of the car rather than try and turn it into something else.
joe rogan
What year did the car get invented?
What was the first Henry Ford automobile?
alex ross
The car?
matt farah
The car?
All cars?
joe rogan
The first car.
alex ross
1800s, late 1800s.
matt farah
Yeah, there's arguments over who did it actually first.
joe rogan
So there was a bunch of people thinking about it?
matt farah
18s, 80s, 70s, 80s.
It was the first little fucking carts.
alex ross
They just didn't have a horse pulling them, but that's basically what they were doing.
joe rogan
So, on the long shot, we're dealing with 130 years, would you say?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
On the long shot?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And on the short, maybe just a couple years less than that?
That's not that much time to figure shit out.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
But we were just talking, Alex and I were talking today about the old Porsches, like those...
1970s models with the big wooden steering wheel and the skinny-ass tires.
alex ross
And they used to race them.
It's like they must have been out of their mind.
joe rogan
They were yodos.
matt farah
Every year they have the historic races.
And they race this shit from like 1915. You know, these Mercer raceabouts.
And they have these riding mechanics.
And they're sitting on like fucking Apple boxes.
There's two guys.
They're on wooden wheels, you know, and they're racing these things.
Oh, my God.
alex ross
Yeah, going around Laguna Seca, you know, with million-dollar cars, and they're going like eight-tenths.
matt farah
They're on like a fucking Oregon trail wagon with an engine in it and a handbrake.
joe rogan
What we were talking about, which I found was really fascinating, was just in the past just 30, 40 years, look at how much things have changed in the car world.
What did we decide?
What was the first Porsche?
What year was it?
65?
alex ross
Yeah, so, well, 911. First Porsche?
joe rogan
911, first 911?
Yeah, 49. 49 was the first Porsche?
matt farah
Seinfeld's got that fucking thing.
alex ross
Well, you could go back to the Beetle.
joe rogan
What is that, probably, like 20 million or something crazy?
matt farah
Estimates are like 6 to 8 million.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
alex ross
Yeah, but you could go back to the Beetle, really, you know, pre-war if you wanted to.
VW Beetle, that's very Porsche.
joe rogan
Let's just, like, give them an era and go with, like, the 65, 911, right?
alex ross
That was the first year.
matt farah
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Think about that.
So that's like 49 years now?
matt farah
It's the 50th anniversary.
alex ross
They released that special 50th anniversary.
joe rogan
So think about that, man.
How much that fucking car has improved in 50 years.
alex ross
But it's tiny little increments.
That's typical Porsche, right?
They'll take it and just go like another ring around a tree.
It ages and it just gets a little bigger.
matt farah
And I just drove the new 911 Turbo S, which is like stupid time warp fast.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's what I was going to get at.
At what point...
We were talking about this today, and I think it's a fascinating subject, because when you see all these Google cars driving around, like I saw a Google...
It wasn't the car that drove itself, but it was a street view thing.
matt farah
Street view car?
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was driving around, filming everything, taking pictures.
No, I was...
Look, I find it fascinating.
matt farah
I think that's a felony.
joe rogan
It will be eventually.
Google will sell it to the government.
It'll be the government's map teams assessing.
That'll be the new way to make jobs.
matt farah
Demolition Man, bro.
It's happening.
unidentified
Dude, it is happening.
matt farah
Demolition Man is fucking happening.
joe rogan
We were talking about this today.
This is probably not going to be around that much longer.
Driving your own car is probably not going to be...
And what we've gone from, these shitboxes with skinny-ass tires that slid all over the place, death traps, you couldn't hit the brakes quick enough, they were slow as fuck, terrible handling, rhinos on roller skates, each and every one of them.
Right?
And now, what we did today, driving these GT3s that you've modified, going through the canyons, and they're just stuck to the ground like a cheetah running up a fucking tree.
Cheetahs don't run up trees.
It doesn't even make sense.
Cheetahs don't even have claws like that.
matt farah
You had us right until the end of it.
joe rogan
Leper.
alex ross
Damn it!
I think that era for Porsche was the golden era, though.
I'd say from 2001 to 2011. What do you say to all these people that long for the air-cooled days?
It's like two groups.
I like the air-cooled, but they just haven't driven these.
And when they do, quite often actually, like I was telling you, like Magnus Walker, he's obviously renowned for air-cooled.
He said it was one of the most fun cars he'd been in, you know?
joe rogan
No, I'm sure.
unidentified
You know what?
matt farah
Porsche got off to a really bad start with the 996, which you had and told us to be the funniest story about earlier about all the problems.
joe rogan
It was a terrible car.
matt farah
And all 996s are bad.
Pretty shit.
I mean, they are.
joe rogan
They're pretty shit.
Yeah, unfortunately.
And the 993 was pretty dope.
Like, the 993 turbo was a fucking epic car.
alex ross
Like, they went from the best it could ever be to the 996. Well, what they did, though, on the 993, they were running out of money, so those were...
I mean, they're worth a lot because they didn't build very many.
And on the 996, that was the dot-com era.
That was when everyone was buying a Porsche.
unidentified
Right.
alex ross
They made tons and tons of them, and they switched to this rather...
NAF engine, if you will, that had problems.
Except for the turbo and then later the GT3. But I know you had problems with it.
joe rogan
Oh, mine was a hunk of shit.
But I remember one of the reasons why I got it, because I'll never forget this cover.
It was either Motor Trend or Road& Track, and it had the 993 911 Turbo on the cover, and it said, sell your soul and buy this car.
Yeah, I think it was...
Sell your soul!
matt farah
I think it was Motor Trend, was that one.
joe rogan
Whatever it was, I was like, that is goddamn genius.
alex ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I had a friend who had a 964, and I remember just like, would stare at it and go, look at that goddamn dude.
alex ross
Yeah.
matt farah
They're fucking dope.
joe rogan
It was just amazing.
matt farah
Well, that's why, you know, I drove your car today, which is awesome.
I got out of your car, and I'm just like, okay, that's the best thing ever.
And then I drive Alex's, which is the newer one of your car.
You know, 4.1 liter and I was like, oh, shit.
joe rogan
That's another level.
matt farah
That's the best.
It's crazy.
It's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Well, you have driven to give people just a little background on Matt.
Matt's one of my, like I said, favorite automotive journalists because he's a real car guy, a guy who really does enjoy cars, but also you have a deep knowledge of the history of automobiles and how they were created and all the different models and all those different things, but nerd.
Your guy's driven to fucking every car there is.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So when you drive a car and say, this is the best car ever, that's a totally different thing.
So I had the best car ever for 10 minutes.
unidentified
You did.
joe rogan
For 10 whole minutes.
matt farah
You did, yeah.
joe rogan
Until Alex stole the thunder with the new one.
matt farah
Fuck, the new one's crazy.
You drove it too.
joe rogan
Dude, I got the new one and the first thing that I said to him was, oh my god, this is next level.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I didn't think you could get next level and still keep that rawness, but clearly you can.
alex ross
You know, we try to do sort of the same way that Porsche goes, you know?
I mean, we spent a lot of time on that green one that we did in order to develop.
It was called Kermit because it was green.
Funny, but...
joe rogan
Classic.
alex ross
Yeah, classic.
matt farah
Fucking creative is what it is.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a dope fucking car, man.
matt farah
It was.
joe rogan
That's the car that got me to contact you.
alex ross
Yeah.
I remember you saw a video.
My wife made that video, actually.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
This car is just so...
So visceral.
It's like, for folks who don't appreciate automobiles, and I completely understand, let me try to put it into perspective, into way you could try to understand why people are, like, maybe you live in New York, you take the subway, you couldn't give a fuck, but you're about to turn this podcast off.
matt farah
Just talk about drugs and fighting again, Joe.
joe rogan
Geniuses.
There have been geniuses that have, over the course of decades, engineered, re-engineered, redesigned, rethought out these metal boxes with fire inside of them.
Making controlled explosions and they've got it down to a point where the car that you just drove, 2.5 seconds, 0-60 in the 911 turbo.
What the fuck is that?
matt farah
It's nuts.
You actually do have to sort of defy physics because in the past you need Very crazy procedures to do something like that, like racing tires and drag slicks.
You gotta heat them up.
And they literally have put this stuff called VHD, which is very high traction, which is a spray.
It's literally like you'd have to do a drag launch in glue.
unidentified
That's what it is exactly what the fuck it is.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
matt farah
They put down a puddle of glue, set it on fire, and then you have to do your launch in that.
joe rogan
Is that why they do those burnouts?
matt farah
Yeah, heat up the tires and get them really sticky.
joe rogan
I thought they were just being dicks.
matt farah
Well, they're being awesome.
joe rogan
I knew what they were doing.
matt farah
The 911 Turbo, you just roll up to a stop sign.
joe rogan
Press one button, left foot brake, right foot gas, and you violate time.
matt farah
And you're breaking every law in the country in three seconds.
alex ross
Yes.
matt farah
Three seconds.
joe rogan
Now, how is this?
How is it possible that the launch control can make it that much faster?
What's the 0-60 if you just had it in drive and you stomped on it?
alex ross
It wouldn't hold the RPMs or build any boost, right?
matt farah
So the 911 turbo is really cool because it builds boost in neutral.
And it's one of a very few turbo engines that do that.
And so launch control holds the RPM at the exact optimum speed.
Builds boost to peak and then just dumps the clutch for you versus being in drive where it starts from one and goes up.
joe rogan
So how many seconds do you lose when you just do it from drive?
Say if you did it manually and you shifted gears yourself.
alex ross
I'll have to be really honest.
I've built and driven a lot of 997 turbos and some 991 turbos and I've never launched them with the...
joe rogan
Launch control?
alex ross
No, I always do it with launch control.
joe rogan
Really?
matt farah
Because it's so easy.
alex ross
We're all PDK. You know, the old cars that were six speeds, you could launch them, and they were actually quite hard cars to launch.
joe rogan
For folks who don't know what you're talking about, PDK means, here's the big debate for folks who are on the subway now, again, ready to turn this fucking thing off.
The big debate amongst people in the car world that enjoy sports cars and the engineering of sports cars is the manual transmission, which is with a third pedal, where you have to press in the clutch to shift the gears, or an automatic transmission, or as Alex said, a PDK. It's some long German word.
matt farah
You're supposed to know how to pronounce it.
joe rogan
Do you know how to pronounce it?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex ross
He's Canadian.
joe rogan
They're ridiculous for using that name.
matt farah
It's German for Porsche double clutch.
alex ross
Doppel-clonger.
joe rogan
Yeah, something like that.
So they call it PDK. And it's a double clutch, is what it is.
It's a clutch with a K. It's a kooky clutch.
matt farah
It does everything for you perfectly every time.
alex ross
Well, I actually own one PDK car, and it was the first launch car.
It came out in 08, and they even screwed up that.
What they did is they had these buttons.
I don't know if you've driven these PDK cars, right?
They have these buttons right where you put your palms on the wheel, right?
So you would be, say, in fourth gear, and you're coming into a turn, you want to bump it down to third.
And go into second, so you go into third, and then as you're turning, your palm would bump that stupid button, and instead of being in fourth, sorry, instead of being in second, you'd be in fourth.
joe rogan
Without getting into specifics, you're just saying the gear changes around the steering wheel, which is stupid.
matt farah
Yeah, which is stupid.
joe rogan
Instead of on the paddles, like a traditional race car.
Yeah, it's a dumb move.
They stuck with that shit like glue, too.
Porsches are very fucking determined.
matt farah
Do you know how to get proper paddles now?
There's a scam.
Standard is those dumb buttons on the wheel.
You gotta spend 500 bucks on the sport steering wheel to get...
joe rogan
Can they retrofit that?
Can you buy like one?
alex ross
Yeah, we do it.
Yes.
joe rogan
Okay, well that's a nice thing to know because those buttons are jackass.
matt farah
It's bullshit.
joe rogan
Stupid dog shit design.
alex ross
You know how else they screw you guys in America?
Well, me too now.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
alex ross
Yeah, that's right.
You know what they do?
They take the ability to have any of your radio controls, all these other buttons that you have on the steering wheel.
If you take the paddle shifter one, they assume that you're having to concentrate so much that you're not allowed to have any of those buttons.
joe rogan
Right.
alex ross
So you can't answer your phone.
matt farah
I like that, though.
alex ross
That is kind of cool.
matt farah
Steering wheel buttons fucking suck.
joe rogan
I'm not a fan of steering wheel buttons.
matt farah
In a Porsche, I agree.
joe rogan
I don't like them in any cars.
alex ross
But you have them in your...
joe rogan
I have them on the BMW. And the Cayenne, right?
Yeah, it's got buttons everywhere.
matt farah
I tested a car last year.
I think it had 18 buttons on the fucking steering wheel.
It's ridiculous.
Too many buttons.
alex ross
How many of the buttons have you pushed in your Cayenne?
joe rogan
I'm not a button pusher, man.
I'm not into that shit.
I think there's a certain part of me that really does like to look in an old, like a 69 Mustang interior and appreciate the simplicity.
alex ross
Sparsity.
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
I appreciate, like, remember when Chris Harris built that 911?
Real simple green 911. Rally car, yeah.
Yeah, beautiful, beautiful car.
I loved that car.
And I loved how simple he made everything.
The interior just had an old retro stereo, a modern stereo that looks...
No, no, no.
It was a Mexico Hi-Fi.
matt farah
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was one of those...
matt farah
They stick them in every vintage car.
Retro, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But you can have, like, navigation on those things.
matt farah
It's basically an amp for an iPhone.
alex ross
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
matt farah
More or less.
joe rogan
Essentially.
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I think it does nav, too.
I don't know how.
matt farah
But you can get that kind of simplicity.
You don't have to go that old.
You can get anything up to, like...
Early 90s almost.
You can have that same, you know, an 89 Porsche is fucking simple.
But it doesn't feel, you don't feel like you're driving an antique.
You know what I mean?
You can still, like, you drive something from the 70s and you don't want to, like, huck it into a corner because you're like, If this goes wrong, I'm dead, you know?
But late 80s, you can kind of drive it harder and not be kind of...
joe rogan
That's when they started to figure it out, right?
With Porsche, it was like the 964, they started to figure out the handling, really, right?
matt farah
The one before that.
alex ross
Yeah, the suspension was way improved on the 964s, but even in that sense, I mean, Honda and Acura, I mean, the NSX blew away the 964. It blew away the Ferrari, blew away Porsche.
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember the first time I ever saw an Acura NSX, I was in Boston and some dude drove by with a red one and everybody's jaw dropped.
They're like, oh my god, we're in the future.
matt farah
In 89, that was a fucking the future.
joe rogan
It was 89, too.
matt farah
Yeah, it was.
joe rogan
It was incredible.
This guy pulled into Kenmore Square in this fucking red spaceship.
Oh my goodness.
Everybody knew it was aluminum.
It's aluminum.
All the cars are aluminum.
It's crazy.
matt farah
Now the F-150 is aluminum.
joe rogan
I was repeating shit that I didn't understand.
There's baffles in the fuel line.
I don't even know what the fuck that meant.
alex ross
And the rods.
The rods are titanium.
joe rogan
Fuel lines, man.
matt farah
It's a 2.8 liter.
alex ross
No, the rod's a titanium.
That's really important.
joe rogan
Well, you know what that was amazing about that car, the Acura NSX, was that it was a fucking Honda.
And that shit was bulletproof.
matt farah
Yeah, yeah.
You still see them around with hundreds of thousands of miles.
joe rogan
Oh, that's why I went back to one after the Porsche fucked me so hard.
That 996 was so bad.
By the way, this is, again, where people who are angry at white guys talk about things they own.
This is when they're tuning off the podcast.
So we...
Killed off all the people who aren't car nuts.
We killed off all the people who don't like white people talking about buying shit.
alex ross
Ladies.
Ladies next.
Ladies are next.
matt farah
Who does that leave?
joe rogan
No one.
There's no one.
Just us.
matt farah
It leaves no one?
joe rogan
It was just an echo chamber, goddammit.
But those NSXs, the cool thing about them was you knew that they were never going to fuck you.
Never.
Those things were...
I never had a single...
I had two NSXs.
I never had a single problem.
alex ross
Yeah, you just change the oil, check the tires.
joe rogan
And I drove them.
alex ross
Yeah, all the way to eight grand.
joe rogan
And they handle beautifully.
matt farah
I don't know anyone that has one that has less than 100,000 miles on it.
joe rogan
They're so great.
alex ross
I still have mine.
matt farah
Oh yeah, Alex has one.
alex ross
Yep, I still have my 91 NSX. Well, they're gonna fuck that car up too.
joe rogan
They're coming out with this crazy spaceship hybrid with fucking dual clutch transmission.
They're fucking up the whole thing.
The simplicity of the original car.
matt farah
Just make it fucking light and call it a day.
joe rogan
Well, what if...
Here's the thought.
What if Porsche or someone said, you know what?
Let's put out a minimalist car.
Fuck all this nonsense.
Let's put out a car that has no electronics at all except for the speedometer, the fuel.
1973 type shit.
Where you look at those old classic gauges.
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
You get limited information, bitch.
Let's assume everything's working.
Get on the fucking road and concentrate on driving.
Well, they had that.
alex ross
They had that with the 914, right?
And they were...
joe rogan
That's a dogshit car.
matt farah
40 years ago.
unidentified
That car's dogshit.
joe rogan
Ugly as fuck.
alex ross
It's a terrible idea.
matt farah
It's a shitbox.
joe rogan
It's good to put giant slicks on and Chevy engines in and piss off people who care.
alex ross
I know, but it's light.
It's light.
joe rogan
I understand it's light, but it's a dogshit car.
If they had done that with a 993 with a simple leather interior, you know, like no bullshit, no electronic.
matt farah
Back in the day, we had the RS America, which was stripped out, right?
alex ross
That was dogshit compared to the European ones.
joe rogan
It was the RS America and the 964. Oh my god, we're into geekdom, ladies and gentlemen.
The 964 is the car before the 993, so we're talking about late 80s.
alex ross
They still all look like 911s, that same shape.
In Europe, we get all the fun stuff.
We get plastic windows, we get roll bars, door pulls.
matt farah
Yeah, but you also have to pay like $11 a gallon for fucking gas.
I just drove across Europe.
In US dollars, it was $10.50 a gallon.
joe rogan
Well, you know, it's so weird how Porsche is so genius.
I mean, their work is so genius.
The cars they produce are so fucking masterful.
Just amazing pieces of engineering.
They'll stick with these dopey-ass ideas like a pit bull, like the dumb buttons on the fucking wheel that they can't for ever.
matt farah
Well, they have their pride, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, and how about the fact that they have these two incredible cars, the Cayman and the Boxster, and they fuck them by giving them low horsepower because if they jumped them up to where the Porsche 911 is, you'd have a way better car than the 911, and they've got a real fucking problem.
matt farah
Alex, how come you haven't stuck a GT3 motor in a Cayman yet?
alex ross
That's what I'm saying!
matt farah
It's the best car ever.
I drove one once.
alex ross
It was the best car ever.
joe rogan
Kamen is?
matt farah
With a GT3 engine.
joe rogan
Who has one?
matt farah
A guy in New York.
I had one.
joe rogan
Who did that?
matt farah
A company called Farnbacher Lowels did it.
alex ross
Yeah, you don't want to Google that name right now.
matt farah
Yeah, their ex-owner, Greg Lowels, just got sentenced to...
Was it a dude?
alex ross
Probably to death.
matt farah
Was it 10?
alex ross
Because he robbed a church.
matt farah
Yeah, 10 years he got.
joe rogan
He robbed a church.
matt farah
He embezzled every fucking dime in that place.
joe rogan
Why does it have to be him?
He could be our saver.
He could be our Obi-Wan.
matt farah
His head tech who actually built that car has his own shop in New York now.
joe rogan
Wow.
His head tech.
Holla at me, dude.
Let's make something real.
matt farah
Look it up.
joe rogan
Let's make something real.
I think that would be the most ridiculous car ever.
unidentified
It would.
joe rogan
A Cayman with a GT3 engine in it?
What would that weigh?
It wouldn't even weigh 3,000 pounds.
matt farah
It would be 3,100 probably.
joe rogan
How about if you fucking...
alex ross
You'd still need to do a lot of work on the rear, the suspension.
You know, like you said, Porsche likes the hamstring, the Cayman.
They hamstring it with, like, crappy struts.
joe rogan
Even the new ones?
I thought the new ones, they made it a lot better.
alex ross
They really, really want to defend the 911. Think about how crazy that is.
joe rogan
You have this incredible design, beautiful car, and you fuck it in the butt.
Just so that you can keep your old car viable.
matt farah
BMW does it too, buddy.
joe rogan
Do they?
With which car?
matt farah
The 1 Series M. That car has all of the M3 suspension shit, but in a tinier car.
And it was faster than the M3. So it can out-handle the M3. It's cheaper than the M3. And it has an engine that if you just do-do-do-do on the computer could be faster than an M3 also.
But they dial it back.
So I just drove this Dinan one.
The Dinan one M. Oh, that's right.
Because Dinan doesn't give a fuck about the M3. I like how you said that, too.
unidentified
He don't give a fuck about the M3, dude.
I don't give a fuck.
matt farah
Steve Dinan don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Not a single fuck.
matt farah
Or her daddy.
Or that bitch's mama.
joe rogan
Not a single fuck was given on that day.
matt farah
And so his shit has 450 horsepower in whole fucking ass.
joe rogan
Now is that- that's available, like right now you can go buy one.
matt farah
You can get that from Dinan, yeah.
joe rogan
How is the gear shifting on that?
matt farah
It's manual.
unidentified
Double clutch?
matt farah
It's manual.
alex ross
They make it in manual.
matt farah
See, here's the thing with that car, because the reason- you said you didn't like the new 911 Turbo because it doesn't come in manual.
I see your point.
However, cars like the new 911 Turbo and this Dinan thing are so fucking fast that- If you have to shift it yourself, it's actually hard to keep up.
joe rogan
Is it faster, you think, than the GT3 RS that he made?
matt farah
No, but the GT3 RS that he made has longer gearing.
joe rogan
That's it?
That's the 1M? That's what they're putting together?
matt farah
Yeah, there it is!
joe rogan
Holy shit, that looks awesome!
matt farah
Matter of fact, is that our picture?
joe rogan
That is a delicious looking car.
matt farah
Isn't that tasty?
joe rogan
I bet that's cheap as fuck too, right?
matt farah
You could pick up the car right now for about $55,000 and then $20,000 more for the kit.
alex ross
They held their value pretty well.
joe rogan
I thought it was lower than that.
For some reason I thought that was like their entry level $35,000 car.
matt farah
It's the top of the bottoms.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
So they make an M. What is the normal M that comes from BMW? 330 horsepower.
That's still pretty fucking fun.
alex ross
Yeah, you can tune all the turbo cars, you know, the hairdryers.
You can tune them, do some computer work, and you can add more boost.
joe rogan
So the 330, is that a naturally aspirated?
matt farah
Twin turbo 6. Oh, really?
Yeah, that's why the other ones are so fast, because they just boost the hell out of them.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That must be an...
Enormously fun car to drive.
matt farah
It's crazy.
It's stupid, stupid, stupid fast.
alex ross
I told you earlier, I tried to keep on a photo shoot with a 3.8 RS, a 4.0 RS, and an R4.1.
I was following in a 1M, the journalist that was doing the story.
He owns one.
Just trying to keep up, the car was going...
All over the road, sideways.
And, you know, I basically got all four tires bald at the end of the day.
joe rogan
Is it really that badass of a fucking car?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
matt farah
There's very few cars.
alex ross
It's like an American muscle car, but a European version of it, right?
joe rogan
Well, I'm looking for, bitch.
alex ross
Because we make everything smaller there.
unidentified
I don't know.
matt farah
I don't know about that.
joe rogan
Not an American muscle car.
matt farah
No, AMGs are like German muscle cars.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt farah
But this thing, it's...
It's pretty nuts.
joe rogan
I didn't even see this.
matt farah
It's pretty nuts.
joe rogan
I love the idea.
matt farah
I mean, it's not a fucking Porsche, but it's small and really fast and has, you know, handled nicely and stuff.
alex ross
It kind of looks like an Accordion 3 series, right?
It's kind of like squished.
joe rogan
A little bit, yeah.
matt farah
But they sold only a limited number of them here in the U.S., and they immediately started going up in value.
alex ross
It's like a stubby M3, you know?
matt farah
So now they're like five to eight grand over MSRP two years.
joe rogan
Well, I think it shows this fucking trend that's going on where people, this minimalist trend, where people are looking at all this shit on their computer.
I have a buddy who has a Tesla.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you don't have any buttons.
You just talk to that fucking thing.
You tell it what the climate you want.
You tell it where to go.
He, like, used it as a Google search.
It has its own 3G engine.
3G, though, which is whack.
alex ross
Yeah.
matt farah
Are they not on 4G yet?
unidentified
Oh, Matt found it on fucking 3G. Like cave people.
matt farah
No LTE in that?
joe rogan
So, like, he can be in the car and go, the black keys.
And then, it's Spotify.
It pulls up the black keys.
And the play number one, boom, starts playing a song.
matt farah
I'm, like, talking to my fucking car.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't need to be talking to my fucking car.
alex ross
I'm the fucking Michael Knight or something, right?
joe rogan
Well, that's one of the things that I really love about the M3 is it has that little dial where you have buttons around the dial.
One's your phone, one's your nav, and it's super easy to get to.
matt farah
Hot buttons.
Hot buttons are key.
joe rogan
It's a much better system than the Porsche.
The Porsche, you know, has everything set in perfect position for driving, without a doubt.
alex ross
Yeah, they don't want any...
joe rogan
But all that other ergonomics and shit's over there.
matt farah
They didn't even give you cup holders until, like, 98 in the fucking 90s.
alex ross
Well, they hide them behind, like, a carbon fiber piece now, you know?
matt farah
It's actually nice of them.
I like that.
joe rogan
I like that, too.
It's cool.
BMW has it, too.
You just press a button and it pops out.
matt farah
Your car is a good cup holder, Angelo.
I put my coffee in it this morning, and then I was doing a pretty good clip up Angela's Crest, and the coffee...
See, my Corvette has the worst cup holders known to man.
I call it the G-meter, because when you turn left, your beverage goes right, and it just goes all over your fucking floor.
joe rogan
Your Corvette is an awesome piece of machinery, too.
matt farah
It is pretty cool.
joe rogan
You have a Corvette that you bought when you graduated high school, right?
alex ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you still have it, and you still drive it all the time.
matt farah
I hit 30,000 miles two weeks ago.
joe rogan
So 130?
matt farah
No, no, 30. Just 30?
30. 30 ever.
alex ross
That's the C5, right?
matt farah
Yeah, it's a 98. Yep.
joe rogan
You just hit 30,000 miles?
How is that possible?
matt farah
We always...
Literally, there's always, like, shit in our house to drive.
I just, like...
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
matt farah
It's never been a first car.
It's always kind of...
joe rogan
But that's amazing.
You bought this fucking car in the 1980s.
You might have, like, one of the best 1980s Corvettes on the market.
matt farah
It's a 98, not an 80. Yeah, it's a 98. But yeah, it's probably up there at this point.
joe rogan
So what year did you buy?
Did you buy it new in 98?
New in 98. And all the stuff that you had done to it, like the roll bar and the engine modifications?
matt farah
It was stock for, like...
Eight years and that was all done in 06 and I haven't done shit since.
unidentified
Wow.
matt farah
It's a great car.
joe rogan
It's a fun car.
matt farah
Corvettes are awesome because they just, they fucking work.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt farah
You know what I mean?
The interior is made of shitty plastic, like yeah, and when you close the door it sounds like Legos are rattling around in there, you know.
It's not a 911, but it's got really good balance and really good power, and it just works all the time.
joe rogan
It's a lot like a fanny pack.
You can't give a fuck what you look like.
You just gotta accept how awesome it is to you.
It's awesome to me.
I don't give a fuck what you see.
There's your car right there.
matt farah
Hey, that is my car.
Oh, look, with my fucking bipolar psycho ex-girlfriend in the passenger seat.
joe rogan
Shazam!
Boom.
Don't give out any information.
matt farah
Ditch the chick, kept the car.
joe rogan
Good move.
Always a good move.
Cars will rarely tell you what to do.
They'll fucking hit you.
matt farah
Sometimes they're like, I need some gas.
But that's about it.
alex ross
Corvettes have gone a lot, lot better, man.
They're good.
joe rogan
They're the fanny pack of the automotive world.
matt farah
They're good platforms to start your build.
You start from a Corvette, take everything the GM cheaped out on, which is a lot, and then make that better, and then you've got a really good car.
alex ross
Yeah, I like the ZR1 the best, like some of my customers have them.
joe rogan
Well, better than that, even.
alex ross
No, no, you know what it is?
You sit in the car, and you're like, this is a ZR1, and it has a Chevy Cobalt steering wheel.
matt farah
Yeah.
They've fixed that.
joe rogan
But better than that.
Was that one that you drove?
The race car company, what is it?
matt farah
Oh, the AVI Racing, the tube frame?
joe rogan
No, the guys who make their own body, it's a bit wider, all carbon fiber.
matt farah
Oh, the Pratt& Miller C6RS thing, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, which is a crazy idea, but sort of a Shark Works situation.
matt farah
Actually, it's pretty close, yeah.
joe rogan
They took a great car, the ZR1, and they said, you know what, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to go with a naturally aspirated engine.
We're going to make that bitch about 600 motherfucking horsepower.
matt farah
Was it 8 liters?
joe rogan
More like a demon.
matt farah
I think that was an 8-liter KJK. Pull it up.
joe rogan
Pull it up, Jamie.
What is the name of the video?
Pratt Miller C6RS. Is it Smoky Tire?
matt farah
Yeah, it's on the Smoky Tire.
I think it's fucking 8-liter V8. It's a gorgeous car.
joe rogan
It's a gorgeous, gorgeous car.
And it's super-duper fucking expensive, too, right?
matt farah
Yeah, I think it was 200. Oh my god, look how thin I was there.
joe rogan
Sexy bitch, look at you.
matt farah
I was so fucking thin there.
How old were you, Matt?
This is like five years ago.
joe rogan
You can still get there, dude.
You're breathing.
Okay, you're still alive.
Let's not give up out of the game.
Don't tap out before it's too late.
matt farah
No, so this thing, yeah, it's all carbon fiber body.
It's like eight inches wider than a regular Corvette.
joe rogan
The noise.
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, the noise.
matt farah
So Pratt& Miller basically is the company that builds GM's factory race cars.
And so they built sort of a street homologation kind of special of the race car.
joe rogan
And what they did was they made a new body that was like a really high quality carbon fiber and a super high quality leather interior, which is something that these cars were really missing.
alex ross
Yeah, they lacked that stuff.
matt farah
It's hilarious though.
I haven't looked at this video in a while.
Looking at it now, it's fucking so silly to think that that was a $200,000 car though.
joe rogan
Is that what it was?
$200,000?
matt farah
8.2 liters, yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, if I had $200,000 burning a hole in my pocket, I might go right to that.
alex ross
Dude, why not $400?
matt farah
They built seven of these.
A friend of mine has sold four of them.
But that's a mean, mean car, man.
joe rogan
It's so beautiful.
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's like a perfect American muscle car.
It's still got that dog shit steering wheel.
There's your cobalt steering wheel.
Colored with leather, though.
That was leather and stitched.
alex ross
I don't know, like a steering wheel is like a mouse, you know, like for a computer.
Why have you a shitty steering wheel?
Why have a shitty mouse?
I want a good mouse.
matt farah
It's really surprising how many people complain about something like a steering wheel and people go, what do you give a fuck, bro?
And it's like, my hands are literally on this the entire time I own this car.
joe rogan
Also, it gives you information about a car, like those Magnus Walker Porsches with the Momo Prototipo steering wheels.
There's something about those old-school steering wheels, like you hold it on to them, and you're actually driving a car.
alex ross
Well, they don't have any filters, right?
There's no filters.
joe rogan
No filter.
alex ross
It's just straight there.
joe rogan
Leather, metal, you're holding on to this thing.
But it's also like, you're looking down at that thing, and it gives you like, yeah, this is a fucking 1972 RS, whatever the hell he calls those things.
matt farah
The best, you get like a 59 Caddy with the fucking wheel that's like a steamship wheel, you know what I mean?
You're like, tacking!
joe rogan
Well, those were boats.
Isn't it interesting that they basically had nautical steering wheels and they were fucking boats?
alex ross
Should have had a fucking tiller then, huh?
joe rogan
They were ridiculous.
And that was just a few decades ago.
A few decades ago.
matt farah
How fucking cool were we in the late 50s?
Remember when America was fucking cool?
We weren't like the shitbags of the fucking world.
You know what I mean?
Everyone didn't hate us.
They wanted our shit and not just like...
alex ross
Nah, you guys hate yourselves.
We should.
matt farah
We're horrible.
joe rogan
He's got a lot of weird misconceptions about America.
Have you noticed that?
Not to gang up on him.
You and me on Team America here.
This fucking wacky Brit's got some crazy ideas about us.
alex ross
Okay, I found out you guys can play pool.
I found out you guys can drive.
joe rogan
But listen, man.
alex ross
No, you can drive, dude.
Just so everyone knows.
joe rogan
You can play pool, too.
You just got to pay attention to where that ball's going.
alex ross
I get trying to give you some pointers.
joe rogan
Dude told me he plays good pool.
And a guy tells you he plays good.
matt farah
He played really good pool.
joe rogan
He told me he played really good.
I go, how good do you play?
He goes, I can play really good.
alex ross
I said I used to play well.
joe rogan
I don't recall that.
I don't recall you saying you play really good.
alex ross
I said I did play well.
Sorry, that's what I said.
Yeah, I did play.
So it was past tense, but I was thinking I was going to be better when we started playing.
joe rogan
Analysis of this statement.
I just knocked a couple balls around the table and he's making all these judgments about me.
alex ross
Well, because you were holding it like an American.
You were holding the cue like, well, we play snooker.
matt farah
Remember when it was, first it was best of five and then it became 5-0.
alex ross
No, Hey, hey.
Come on.
In all fairness, the last game, there was only one little ball left.
joe rogan
It didn't matter.
You were never going to get that ball in.
alex ross
I was going to get the ball.
matt farah
The last game, there was one ball in.
alex ross
I just lost a little ball.
joe rogan
That ball was never going in.
alex ross
It was going.
It was going.
I just didn't get to it.
joe rogan
Even if you got to it, the idea of you getting to it and then getting to the eight ball is beyond preposterous.
alex ross
I know, dude.
joe rogan
They weren't anywhere near each other.
I was in no danger.
alex ross
I told you, man.
joe rogan
I was just waiting.
alex ross
The tightness of the pocket.
You guys have weird, like, super tight pockets in the U.S. We don't play that way.
joe rogan
Well, this is table, really.
This is way tighter than a regular table.
A regular table has a 5-inch pocket that's a 4-inch pocket.
And Ernesto Dominguez, who's a big player in LA, like pro player, and he's also a great table mechanic.
And him and his son, Oscar, who's another pro player, they put together these, like, an Ernesto cut table, like a big deal.
He's the master when it comes to putting together those Brunswick.
So this guy, Donnie Wessels, sold it to me.
It's a 1972, 1973 table.
matt farah
It's very mod.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's really cool.
alex ross
My first shot, I don't know if you can remember that, because it was a while ago, but my first shot.
joe rogan
Oh, I remember it so well.
alex ross
Dude, I hit it hard.
You say, why'd you hit it so hard, right?
And on a normal table, it had gone in, right?
And instead it just went and, you know, did that little pinball thing.
joe rogan
Yes.
matt farah
Can we talk about anything else?
joe rogan
That doesn't matter.
That's the thing.
The ball going in or not does not matter to Americans.
alex ross
Okay, so Americans can play pool.
joe rogan
What Americans are getting right now is like a peek into your madness.
The same madness that led you to be this master engineer and improver of Porsches leads you to be a crazy person if you fucking miss a shot on a pool table.
You're talking about a goddamn podcast two hours later.
Well, the reason why that one didn't go in is because I'm not American!
The sun was in the wrong place on the horizon and I had Vaseline on my fingernails.
alex ross
You're the best American pool player that I've played against.
joe rogan
Well, then you ain't playing against shit because I'm fucking terrible compared to like a real good pool player.
So you can't go running around...
matt farah
It's home field advantage.
joe rogan
No, you can't...
Please.
You can't go running around telling people you're good at pool.
alex ross
I wouldn't, but I was doing this thing where, you know, like, man, Americans always say they're good at stuff, right?
And then I was just testing you a little...
matt farah
You gotta D-bag your M5 for me.
joe rogan
I don't understand why anybody would say Americans always do this and British people always do...
Every British person I met has been at least partially unique and individual in their own personality traits, the way they behave.
So when someone starts saying, every American does this, I go, that is a poorly thought out idea, my friend.
alex ross
I thought, well, I wanted to see if it was furniture or the real deal, and I found out it was the real deal.
matt farah
Furniture or the real deal?
alex ross
I found out it was the real deal.
matt farah
Four inch pockets, bro!
unidentified
Yeah, bro.
joe rogan
Four inch pockets, bro.
matt farah
Well, yeah.
I just met my first actually, like, dumb English person.
We were just in the UK. No, I've never...
alex ross
Dude, our education system is pretty good.
matt farah
I don't spend a ton of time in the UK, but the English accent makes you sound smarter than you are, even if you're not that smart.
We were just in the UK, and a waiter...
We had trouble counting the number of people at our table.
There were five.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
alex ross
That's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
matt farah
And despite the accent, I was like, huh, you're fucking stupid, aren't you?
alex ross
What part of the UK was that?
joe rogan
Take it from the top.
matt farah
Where were we?
joe rogan
One.
We've got one.
unidentified
Woking.
alex ross
Was it Woking?
Two.
There's this place called London.
matt farah
It was where they built McLaren's.
alex ross
Yeah, okay.
joe rogan
Maybe they worked them too much and the guy was tired.
matt farah
He left it all on the field.
joe rogan
You know how you get so tired you can't even remember your own name?
What's your name, sir?
Uh...
Matt Ferrer.
matt farah
If you're in England, it's Clive.
joe rogan
You can't remember how to count to five.
Head trauma.
Could have been a boxer when he was young.
matt farah
Could be catching up to him.
You've explained this particular Englishman's stupidity, possibly.
joe rogan
Just trying to give him the outs.
All the outs he deserves.
alex ross
Hands up.
You can play full deep.
unidentified
The benefit of...
joe rogan
He's still going back and going to the bucket hole!
unidentified
Holy shit!
joe rogan
Alex Ross and we don't mix together so smoothly.
This is something we found out today.
Some people, you give it to them and it releases something inside of them that they should keep in.
They should keep it collected and tucked away.
matt farah
Dan Marino should die of gonorrhea.
joe rogan
That's a badass car, though, you make, sir.
You make a fucking...
There's a photo of it right there.
alex ross
No more photos there, fella.
joe rogan
So, you've been in this car making business for, like, how long now?
Since basically 05. 05. And before that, I thought this was hilarious, you used to be in the video game world and you were actually on Screensavers.
alex ross
Yeah, I was.
I had segments on there.
joe rogan
I used to love that show.
That show was great.
Leo Laporte.
alex ross
Leo Laporte and Pat Norton.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was a great show.
I used to love that show.
alex ross
I was a total uber geek.
I used to build my own PCs.
joe rogan
That was the show of the first Hot Nerds too, right?
They had those Hot Nerd girls.
alex ross
Oh yeah, they did.
They all went on to do...
matt farah
How long ago was this?
Am I too young?
alex ross
Yeah, you weren't born yet.
joe rogan
It was probably like the early 2000s, right?
alex ross
Late 90s, early 2000s.
joe rogan
Late 90s?
alex ross
Yeah.
It was on TV. Yeah, it was on real TV. Tech show on TV. It was the only one of its kind.
It was kind of like the top gear of PC stuff.
joe rogan
You almost said without the buffoonery.
That's what you were going to say.
You were going to shit all over Jeremy Clarkson right here on this podcast.
Your fellow Englishman.
I know what you're doing.
You're about to go down.
alex ross
He doesn't like Porsches and he just says it all the time.
So it's hard to see eye-eye with it.
joe rogan
But he's a character.
Don't you think he's at least partially a character?
He drove a 911 Turbo and compared it to the 4.5, not the 4.5.8, the 4.30, remember?
alex ross
And he loved it.
joe rogan
He was ranting and raving about how fantastic it is.
matt farah
He smoked the 4.30, if I remember properly.
joe rogan
But he was just talking about how...
alex ross
But he's also crashed two GT3s.
matt farah
He has.
But he left the shots in.
He didn't edit it out of the film.
alex ross
But then he blamed the car.
Like I blamed the pool table.
joe rogan
That's what he does.
matt farah
You are not one to judge someone else for making excuses.
joe rogan
You've never made an excuse in your life, have you?
I want to hear your excuse for not making any excuses.
alex ross
Catholic boarding school.
joe rogan
Okay.
alex ross
That's where I go with that.
joe rogan
In fairness, he crashed Porsches and made fun of himself when he did it.
He said, because these cars, I don't like these cars because they don't tolerate fools.
And I am a fool.
matt farah
That's a good line.
joe rogan
It's true.
I mean, he drives like a fucking maniac.
That's half of the fun of him, is that he's this kind of unhinged dude who drives like a maniac.
matt farah
Last season he shat on a BMW because he spun it in a straight line.
It was raining, and he just spun the car, and his conclusion was that the car sucked.
alex ross
Well, the thing is, though, his kind of car is different than what I would like.
His kind of car is indeed one that makes smoke everywhere, goes sideways.
That's why he likes all the big AMGs, and that's fun.
I kind of like traction and getting into rhythm and driving through canyons, so that's why I like Porsches.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know, I think a car that makes unnecessary burnouts is a kind of stupid car.
matt farah
It's fun for a bit, right?
joe rogan
Like a Shelby.
They're fun cars.
But they're kind of stupid.
Like, that's fucking retarded.
You're not in control of it.
The whole thing is you're in control of something you're not in control of.
You're kind of in control of it, but it's going sideways.
matt farah
It's supposed to go straight.
It's like bull riding with a car.
alex ross
Well, you know, like how I got into the car thing, too.
I mean, I took a 996 Turbo, you know, and I went drag racing with it.
Talk about stupid, right?
An English guy going to a drag strip.
joe rogan
What difference does it make if you're English, Iranian, Polish?
alex ross
Okay, English guys don't drag race.
They don't?
We go around, you know, tracks and stuff.
joe rogan
There's a bunch of Englishmen who are going to be fucking knocking on your Twitter door.
I've been drag racing since before, you and your daddy's dick.
matt farah
A friend of mine's got a 69 Charger in England who drag races.
He's got a parachute on that shit.
joe rogan
So there you go.
Talking nonsense again.
It's all this fucking English people don't do this shit.
Selling your own country but down a river.
Calling Jeremy Clarkson a scoundrel or some such.
alex ross
He just doesn't like horses.
joe rogan
He's always a funny guy, man.
He doesn't need to like horses.
There's probably a lot of music he likes that I think is dog shit.
We don't need to like the same goddamn things.
alex ross
You know what?
He's like furniture in a way.
He's just been around.
You sit on it.
You use it.
And you appreciate it.
joe rogan
Let's be real about what's going on here.
You're a Porsche fanboy.
alex ross
I am.
I am.
But I'm wearing a Honda shirt.
joe rogan
You are.
It's okay to be a Porsche fanboy.
alex ross
It's okay.
matt farah
Yeah, they do make good cars.
joe rogan
They make the best cars.
I think they make the best cars.
matt farah
They make the most satisfying and shitty cars.
alex ross
You know what I wish they wouldn't do?
unidentified
What?
alex ross
Is make four-door cars and sedans and all that other shit.
joe rogan
You're talking out of your nonsense hole because you need to get a hold of one of those Panamaras and stomp that fucking thing on the highway.
I launched stomp that motherfucker on the highway and watch time bend in front of your eyes while you're driving a fucking sedan.
You're in some cozy executive chair with plush leather and you're violating time.
matt farah
Panamera Turbo.
The new ones are nice.
They're loud and shit, too.
They make all kinds of good noises now.
joe rogan
It's only $190,000.
matt farah
I drove one, $227,000.
Long wheelbase, Turbo S with ceramics, and the full interior rear.
alex ross
We were going to get one to do development on, right?
Before it came out, we put in an order.
joe rogan
What could you possibly do to that thing?
alex ross
You can add software, you can add exhaust because it's a turbocharged car, right?
We add about 100 horsepower to those cars usually.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
matt farah
They can make like 700 out of those things.
alex ross
But I totaled up the bill for the build sheet because I wanted ceramics to go out of that.
Those are like carbon ceramic brakes for geeks.
They don't create any dust and they don't heat up.
They're great brakes.
They feel like the best brakes ever.
matt farah
They last mostly forever.
alex ross
Except if you go to the racetrack.
But anyway, yeah, the bill was like 190k.
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow, $190,000 over.
alex ross
For a four-door car.
joe rogan
Wow.
alex ross
And you know how those four-door cars are.
You buy them, and then two, three years later, they're worth nothing.
You can't get rid of them.
matt farah
What is a 2010 Panamera Turbo is going for now?
Can you get them for like $70,000 yet?
alex ross
Around, yeah.
Almost.
matt farah
My dad had a Cayenne Turbo, which I know you've got.
That was like $108,000 new in 2005, and he sold it for $28,000.
In 09. That's insane.
The dealer offered him 20 even on trade.
alex ross
I remember there was one of my customers that had like 8 different Cayennes, because he's had 911 turbos, but he also has Cayennes.
And one of them was the Cayenne Turbo S, and it did.
It stickered up to like 160 something.
It had ceramics, everything.
matt farah
Aero kit.
Ceramics?
alex ross
Yeah, ceramics.
joe rogan
One of the things that I like about American cars is there's a disaster going on right now with American cars.
There's a long period of just fucking terrible ideas and shitty design and shit build quality.
But at least there's a series of cars that have stuck with a manual transmission only.
The Shelby GT500, the Viper...
You can't get a fucking automatic transmission.
alex ross
Can you imagine an automatic Viper?
joe rogan
They'll make it.
It's a matter of time.
You can still get manual Corvettes, too.
You can start getting the double clutch Corvette, which I think is...
matt farah
No, it's not a double clutch.
It's just auto.
alex ross
Oh, it's still auto?
matt farah
It's a torque converter auto.
joe rogan
I thought the new one was a double clutch.
I thought the first...
The one that you drove- no, Chris Harris drove one in a 911. That was an auto.
That was an auto.
matt farah
It was a fucking auto.
unidentified
It was an auto.
joe rogan
Dog shit.
matt farah
That's such dog shit.
That auto sucks, too.
But you can get it in stick.
Like, you can get it.
As long as you can get it, it's fine.
joe rogan
But the new ones, apparently, you've driven it.
Which?
Jump up.
Huge jump.
The new Corvettes.
matt farah
The new Corvettes are great.
The one I drove had the performance pack on it, the magnetic ride, the shocks.
GM has the coolest shocks in the world.
They're so cool that Ferrari licenses the design.
It's called...
Magnetic ride control.
Sorry.
So the shocks have a magnetic fluid in the shock as opposed to a hydraulic fluid or whatever that they normally use.
And they send different levels of current through there to make it soft or firm and variable.
unidentified
Wow.
matt farah
Right?
And Ferrari uses them on the F12, the 458, all the Ferraris use them.
alex ross
Yeah, they had that cool advert where they had a Cadillac CTS-V going around a racetrack, and it was following a Ferrari.
I thought that was pretty cool how they kind of worked together, and they actually advertised a Ferrari and a Cadillac together.
matt farah
I bet it was part of the licensing.
alex ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, that was another cool move by GM when they put out the Z28, or the Z06. Yeah.
The Z28 also, only standard, right?
They don't have a double charge.
matt farah
No manual.
joe rogan
Only manual.
alex ross
The new Z28 is actually...
joe rogan
Think about that.
The Viper, GT500, the Corvette Z06, and the Corvette ZR1. Yeah.
All only manual.
matt farah
Yep.
joe rogan
At least they held onto that.
alex ross
They do.
Hats off to that.
But actually, the new Z28, I'm not a Camaro guy.
I didn't grow up with any Camaros or anything.
We didn't have them.
But the new Z28, people should check out if they're into fun track cars.
Because even guys that have GT3s now that can't drive them, the new one, nobody can drive those.
Porsche's called them and said to all 756 of the ones delivered, park your car.
We're coming to get it.
We're going to replace your engine.
There's a problem.
A lot of those guys...
Dude, it's gotten worse.
A lot of those guys are basically going and buying Z28s.
joe rogan
So they gave their car back?
matt farah
Yeah.
The Z28s, Harris just got one in ADK and drove it.
joe rogan
Did he really?
matt farah
I flew all the way to New York to drive it from LA, and it was raining at the track, and they wouldn't let me drive it.
I had flown across the country, and they go, nope, and I go, like, come on, and they said it was worthless in the wet.
alex ross
But you know what people have said, though, they've driven it, that have had GT3s?
Well, no, but they immediately, because the new GT3 is, you know, basically, it's PDK, And then they go back into a Z28 and they're just having fun because it's manual.
joe rogan
With a manual transmission.
Yeah, it's better.
alex ross
Wake up.
matt farah
It's more fun.
alex ross
We're not going to be driving soon.
You're not going to be allowed to do anything.
You'll just be sitting in there reading your newspaper.
joe rogan
That was an episode of Jeremy Clarkson when he was driving the Z06 or when he was driving the ZR1. Yeah, yeah.
He was like, are you listening, Ferrari?
You know, like just a regular manual transmission.
Why don't you make one of those?
matt farah
A Ferrari with a manual gearbox is so fun.
joe rogan
It's so dark that they're canceling all that stuff.
matt farah
It's the customer's fault.
When they started offering paddles instead of a stick, the take rate was like 95%.
joe rogan
You know what I think it is, man?
It's another example.
Of the shitheads taking over the earth.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like these rich people, all of them have terrible taste.
alex ross
They all do.
joe rogan
It's like, what's going on here?
It's the people that are becoming really rich.
matt farah
LA's the fucking worst, man.
Everyone puts rims on their shit.
They buy a fucking $300,000 Ferrari and they put fucking rims on it.
alex ross
Some of those rims are so gross, too.
joe rogan
Like the 22-inch rims.
matt farah
They're idiots.
joe rogan
Where they're like wagon wheels and shit.
matt farah
Fucking West Coast Customs and Platinum Motorsport garbage.
alex ross
You obviously haven't visited Oakland, then, have you?
joe rogan
I've been visiting Oakland, sure.
alex ross
Oh, that's where you get some really good rides.
joe rogan
Remember Spinners?
matt farah
Oh, dude!
alex ross
Floaters, dude!
Floaters!
matt farah
I didn't have them, but no.
But I lived in New York, right?
And Latrell Sprewell lived right up the street from my parents.
And remember back in the day, the Spinners?
Sprewell bought the company.
That made those, and they were called Sprewells for like 10 years.
alex ross
Nice.
matt farah
Remember everyone used to call Spinners Sprewells back then?
joe rogan
No, that was probably only your neighborhood.
matt farah
It's probably because I was in New York and Sprewell played for the fucking Knicks.
alex ross
You were probably video gaming then anyway.
matt farah
Yeah, Sprewells was crazy.
joe rogan
I remember, I just, I never heard that, call them that.
I just heard Spinners.
alex ross
And there was the opposite?
matt farah
Yeah, the Floaters.
alex ross
No, the Floaters.
Remember the Floaters?
matt farah
Well, floaters, I think I called them stayers.
alex ross
You called them stayers?
matt farah
They were the opposite, because the car would drive, but the rim would stay.
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember that.
alex ross
Those were pretty cool, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, people gave up on that shit quick.
matt farah
Yeah, high-maintenance rims.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it's also like any time you hit a pothole, there was no padding.
You would blow out tires left and right.
alex ross
I don't know, man.
But in Porsche's defense, you know, the other reason they went to PDK and got rid of the six-speed was a lot of people can't drive the car properly.
And what happens is when you take the control away from people and the ability to do something wrong, like misshift or money shift, as you call it, you know, and blow up your engine and then some, you know, Somebody goes back with their car and says, oh, I want you to warranty it and fix it.
joe rogan
Let's nerf the world, Alex Ross.
People can't handle it.
Let's nerf the world.
They can't get a manual transmission.
My grandfather drove a fucking three on the column.
matt farah
They used to have some crazy gearboxes back in the day.
I just read a manual of how to drive a Model T. There's nothing like what you think it would be.
joe rogan
What was it like?
matt farah
There's a pedal, but it's just...
unidentified
Is it online?
matt farah
Yeah, you're just going.
You put it in gear, and there's no...
You're just going.
alex ross
It has a roller thing, right?
matt farah
Just go.
joe rogan
Okay, so it's one gear.
matt farah
It's two gears.
joe rogan
Two gears.
Does it shift itself, or do you shift?
alex ross
No, no.
joe rogan
Is there a clutch?
matt farah
Yes, there's a clutch.
But there's also, like, you have to adjust the spark advance and the ignition timing.
joe rogan
While you're driving?
matt farah
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa.
matt farah
There's all kinds of stuff going on.
joe rogan
Okay, okay.
How many different various functions that don't exist?
matt farah
Oh, there's a chart.
joe rogan
This is it right here?
matt farah
Yeah, where's the chart?
Keeps going.
This is the instructions of how to drive a Model T. But there's a chart that shows all the different positions of the Spark Advance levers.
unidentified
Keep going.
Oh my god.
matt farah
And it's a huge undertaking to drive a Model T. Wow.
alex ross
So pretty much it would have been easier to fly a plane instead of this.
I don't know where the chart is.
joe rogan
There's so many diagrams and shit.
matt farah
Look up like a Model T, a Spark Advance chart or something.
I don't know.
It's crazy the amount of things that people had to do to drive a car.
Just to get a car to fucking move.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
So how many different things?
You're saying adjust the what?
matt farah
So they had like a centrifugal type clutch.
So there was no accelerator pedal.
There it is.
Look, these are all the different...
So there's two levers.
And these are all the different possible positions, and there are nine possible combinations of positions for depending on how fast you want to go.
So that lever on the right, I believe, is actually your throttle.
There's no gas pedal.
That lever is your throttle.
So you just set that, and it's like cruise control all the time.
And then you have high gear and low gear.
It's like a crank start.
Yeah, see?
The left lever is spark advance.
joe rogan
Look at this.
For a speed of 10 miles per hour on high gear, leave spark advance 5 notches.
Open gas 2 or 3 notches.
Holy shit!
matt farah
So that's what you do to maintain 10 miles an hour.
joe rogan
You know how many people complain when this went away?
Well, you don't even adjust your spark.
That's what I'm saying!
I don't even feel like I'm driving a car anymore.
matt farah
That's exactly what it is.
joe rogan
I don't even start my engine with a flint.
matt farah
You kids and your key ignitions.
joe rogan
They're out there with a fucking rock and a file trying to start the car.
Tink, tink, tink, vroom.
matt farah
You ever see Leno in his steam cars?
You gotta light a boiler 45 minutes before you go in.
joe rogan
Does he really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's insane.
matt farah
He has to heat up like a fucking keg of water.
joe rogan
Leno has probably the dopest individual garage ever.
matt farah
It's crazy.
joe rogan
He's got a warehouse filled with...
alex ross
A warehouse?
Like seven, you mean?
joe rogan
Seven warehouses?
alex ross
I think it's two airplane hangers.
joe rogan
Imagine if we found out that Leno was just selling coke the entire time.
How else is he getting this money?
I mean, this is too much money.
It doesn't even make sense.
matt farah
He says that he doesn't spend his Tonight Show money.
He only spends his stand-up money.
joe rogan
Yeah, which is insane.
matt farah
So he's just sitting on stockpiles of Tonight Show cash.
joe rogan
Unbelievable car.
unidentified
Crazy.
joe rogan
I can't even imagine how much money that's the case.
Because he was the host of the Tonight Show for, what, decades?
matt farah
I mean, his car collection is $100 million.
alex ross
Well, just, yeah.
joe rogan
$100 million?
matt farah
$100 million is what his car collection's worth.
alex ross
And he also has like 220 bikes, too.
matt farah
Ralph Lauren's car collection is worth $500 million if you want to feel really sick.
joe rogan
What?
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
How's that possible?
matt farah
Ralph Lauren has 65 cars worth $500 million.
Do the math on that shit.
joe rogan
That's the craziest thing ever in my life.
matt farah
It's an average value of like eight-something million.
joe rogan
Are those all those like old dogshit Mercedes-Benz that are worth a million dollars each?
matt farah
No, they're like, he has one of every Ferrari that won Le Mans for like ten fucking years.
joe rogan
Oh, he's one of those assholes.
Those cars are old as fuck and almost useless.
alex ross
He does drive them all, though.
joe rogan
He'd save $7 million for Steve McQueen's car.
Well, you're a fucking idiot, because Steve wouldn't drive it if he was alive today.
Okay?
If he was alive today, he'd go to Shark Works to get himself a fucking real car.
You think Steve McQueen would have one of those dogshit old James Dean killing fucking shitboxes?
unidentified
That is Steve McQueen's car.
Yeah, because that's all that was available back then.
Duh!
joe rogan
If Steve McQueen was alive today, he'd be driving a fucking Cayenne.
alex ross
Look at those tires, man.
Look at those tires.
matt farah
He'd be a Panamera Turbo on rims.
joe rogan
He'd be a Panamera Turbo at 26 inches.
alex ross
He'd have spinners.
joe rogan
Color-coded to match the car's interior.
matt farah
They spinnin'!
joe rogan
Yeah, he'd be fuckin'...
matt farah
Would Steve McQueen have gone for the painted key option?
joe rogan
He would have gone for the matte black.
matt farah
Oh, these are Ralph's cars.
Look at that.
So that's 50 million.
joe rogan
What?
matt farah
That is a Bugatti.
joe rogan
I'd give you 10 bucks for it, then I'd sell it for 20 and be done with it.
matt farah
There's three of those in the world.
joe rogan
Well, let's blow it up and make it two.
It's like a goddamn dodo bird.
matt farah
Leno's got one.
joe rogan
If I found a dodo bird today, if there was only one left, I'd hit it with a fucking rock.
matt farah
You wouldn't drop 50 mil on that?
Just re-extinct that bit.
joe rogan
There was a dodo bird and fucking, this is the last remaining, I'd choke it to death in the bathroom.
And then I would make a story up.
matt farah
Try to flush it down the toilet.
joe rogan
I just drowned that fucker.
matt farah
See each of those in that grid there.
alex ross
Bottom right, the McLaren F1. That's my favorite.
joe rogan
These cars are insane.
And McLaren has a new insane car that's like 1 point something million dollars.
P1. Yeah, so they have the regular...
I found out about this because I was telling people that the McLaren, that's the more common one, It doesn't sound very good.
alex ross
It's a turbocharged car.
So, you know, those turbos, they block a lot of the sound.
They act like mufflers, you know?
So naturally aspirated cars are always going to be more loud.
joe rogan
I was telling someone, he goes, what are you talking about?
He sends me this video, this thing sounds amazing.
I was like, that is not the same fucking car.
Turns out it's a car that's ten times more expensive.
matt farah
Oh, was it a McLaren F1? It was the new one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the P1. And the P1 shoots fire, fire.
Like, on gas fire.
joe rogan
It's so good that Chris Harris said it's a step up above the Porsche 918, which is like the greatest car the world has ever known, up until a week ago.
matt farah
Harris said that the 918 is amazing, but the P1 is like an alien just dropped a car on Earth and this is it, you know what I mean?
alex ross
Yeah, I wasn't overly impressed with that 918. I mean, as far as technology, it looks and does all that stuff really well.
But honestly, I go back to the manual thing.
I've driven CGTs and that's what I would take.
That thing is amazing.
That thing is connected.
joe rogan
You know what I think?
I think that automotive technology has reached a sufficient limit with what is existing today.
Where we can have these wacky fucking future million dollar cars for Russian oligarchs.
You can have these nutty cars that you and I will never be able to afford.
But really, there needs to be some sort of a balance between the GTR-type, supercomputer, unbelievably cool cars, and a visceral car.
Like a car that you feel the engine, like a GT3-type experience, or something more raw.
Because if they just keep...
Over-engineering to the point where you're just going to completely lose the pleasure from driving.
matt farah
Laptimes take into it.
And the problem is, a lot of the time, the limiting factor is to the tires and the driver.
joe rogan
But don't you think that the way technology has reached...
alex ross
If you take the driver out of the equation, right?
You take the driver out of the equation if the shifting is done for you, right?
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Well, you take some of it, but what I'm trying to say is I think that where the technology has reached right now, They can make amazing, super-competent cars that just five, ten years ago would be Ferrari supercar level, and they can make them where you feel everything.
They can have incredible performance that's thrilling, braking that's fantastic, handling that's spectacular, but make it so you can feel it.
Yeah, it's not going to be as fast around a track as a fucking GT-R from 2015. But it's probably going to be more than fast enough for you.
Like, what the fuck are you doing exactly that you need 600 fucking horsepower?
matt farah
You're arguing on the internet.
alex ross
Well, you know, like going to the NSX, you know, when you were driving that, right?
I mean, it didn't even have 300 horsepower, but it, you know, it had a good amount of power.
And then you're thinking, like, Now you're driving, you know, in GT3s that have over 500 horsepower, and then there's, you know, yeah, like 991 Turbo S's that have, you know, even more than that.
joe rogan
Well, that was what Chris Harris had done with that little rally car that he had made.
He had taken the car and made it really, really light.
It was only 2,000 pounds, and he put a 320-plus horsepower engine in it.
matt farah
That's a rocket.
joe rogan
Oh, my goodness.
matt farah
Well, we also, you know...
You talk about...
If you want something that's wrong, we have shit on the other end of the spectrum, too.
You've got stuff like the Ariel Atom.
You've got the Morgan Three-Wheelers, which are hilarious fun.
alex ross
Lotus and stuff with the Elise.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you know what, man?
I tried one of those.
alex ross
The Lotus?
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt farah
They're fucking shitboxes.
joe rogan
I was like, this is a little beer can with fucking wheels attached to it.
It just felt like plastic.
alex ross
You don't want to drive one in LA, too.
matt farah
Nobody with money wants one.
joe rogan
Yeah, why is that?
matt farah
Because they don't feel expensive.
They feel fucking cheap.
Light is great, but most people don't want to pay extra for it.
Like, we just had a Viper, right?
You know, Viper is the kind of thing that I would want to be driving, right?
Because it's fucking loud, it's got a huge motor, it's stick, you know?
And there's a lot of technology in there, carbon fiber, and it's got a ton of horsepower and stuff, but they charge you for it.
So the Viper was like $140,000, whereas the Carrera S, the new one, when they charge you that much money, you've got...
Like, a Porsche feels more technologically advanced.
You know what I mean?
alex ross
Yeah, but Porsche's got it right.
What they do is they do this reverse thing where it's like, I don't want to have a radio.
Oh, they charge you more.
Yeah, I don't want to have a sunroof.
I don't want to have this.
And they're like, no problem.
There's more money.
matt farah
Yeah, yeah.
They do charge you more for less.
But we've got some really lightweight, crazy, pure stuff that you can buy that you would never be able to buy years ago.
joe rogan
Like what?
matt farah
Ariel Adam.
Have you seen the BAC Mono?
alex ross
Yeah, that thing's sick.
matt farah
It looks like a 401 car you can drive on the street.
joe rogan
Really?
What's it called?
matt farah
The BAC Mono.
joe rogan
Pull that shit up, Jamie.
matt farah
It's really nutty.
alex ross
Looks like an insect.
joe rogan
The Ariel Adam is a ridiculous car.
matt farah
Yeah.
There's a lot of ways to die in one of them things.
joe rogan
It seems like it.
matt farah
Yeah, there are.
joe rogan
It seems like any time you're wearing a helmet and you're in a car.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
What's with the helmet, man?
What are you doing?
You're on the street and you're wearing a helmet?
matt farah
Hell, you take shit to the fucking face.
joe rogan
Look at that thing.
matt farah
That's the BAC Mono.
joe rogan
That is so ridiculous.
matt farah
It's a single-seater.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
matt farah
Which I think is kind of stupid because...
You spend all this money on this car.
You can't give anyone a fucking ride.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's good.
That way you can't give anyone a ride.
alex ross
And get sued, yeah.
joe rogan
There's a pro and a con.
I'm a glass half full kind of a guy.
I see that and I go, I see no one wooching to ride off of me.
Plus, there's no room for bottles and fucking wrappers to accumulate.
You know?
It's like you gotta keep that bitch clean.
You're forced to.
You're not gonna sit on your own garbage.
unidentified
So you're not gonna go through fast food lanes.
joe rogan
You're not gonna listen to the radio.
You got no radio, bitch.
matt farah
Imagine a hoarder with a mono.
And it's like, there's nowhere to put it.
But like, there's just trash, stunt newspapers.
joe rogan
That car looks so ridiculous.
Pull that picture up again, Jimmy.
It looks unbelievable.
This is a street legal car in America?
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
So anybody could just go out, buy one of these, and you could just see them driving down to Palmetto.
matt farah
I see the guy who has one of these, I see him in the canyons.
joe rogan
No way.
And what does one of those go for?
matt farah
I think it's around a hundred grand?
unidentified
That's it?
alex ross
No, I think it's quite a bit more, yeah.
joe rogan
Now, how quick would you die if you got hit in one of those things?
matt farah
Very, very quick.
joe rogan
Is there any protection at all, or does it kill you just to give you mercy?
alex ross
Well, it's a carbon monocoque, right?
joe rogan
Instead of having airbags, it has spikes that come out of the dashboard and shoot right to your fucking brain.
matt farah
I think it is.
Don't hold it.
Look, there it is.
There's the chassis.
Yeah, can you enlarge that picture?
alex ross
Forbidden.
It's forbidden.
matt farah
It's forbidden.
alex ross
They don't want you to see it.
There's nothing there.
matt farah
Yeah, it's a tube frame.
Yeah, you would die very, very quickly if you were in an accident.
unidentified
Maybe you, bitch.
joe rogan
Not me, bro.
Walk away from that like nothing.
I got a different set of rules.
matt farah
You're immortal, obviously.
joe rogan
I just know how to get away.
I roll with punches.
I've been around the block, bro.
I grew up in New York.
You know those fucking guys?
Pretend like, listen, don't worry about me.
I grew up in New York.
Do you have a different nose structure?
matt farah
They're from Bedford.
joe rogan
You're going to hit you in the face with a pipe.
You're going to feel the same shit as a guy from Cleveland, you fuckhead.
What the fuck are you saying?
Ariel, Adam, put your helmet on.
Put your fucking superhero outfit on.
matt farah
If you don't have like an actual, you know, death wish.
Is that like someone's grandma sitting in that car?
Oh, it's like a kid.
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Is that a baby in that lady's arm?
unidentified
It's a dog.
joe rogan
It's a dog.
Oh, Christ.
matt farah
There's a car called Noble?
joe rogan
That's what kind of an asshole drives a car like that.
The kind of guy who's dating a chick who brings her fucking dog everywhere.
matt farah
Have you seen a Noble before?
joe rogan
Yes.
They're cool.
unidentified
They're not built so well, are they?
joe rogan
They're like a kit car?
alex ross
Yeah, it's very kit car-ish.
It's sort of worse than a loader.
matt farah
They try really hard.
joe rogan
Isn't that one of those things where you bring it somewhere and they have to put the engine in?
matt farah
Yeah, kind of.
joe rogan
How's that work?
Like, you buy the car, and then you buy the engine?
Do you buy the engine from them, too?
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
Couldn't you be like, listen, bitch, I'll say I did it, but can't you do it?
matt farah
They have a guy here.
As long as they do it in this country, you don't do it.
Like, they said they ship it into the U.S. separately and then do what they would call a final assembly.
joe rogan
No, but that's to get away from something, right?
What is it to get away from?
matt farah
It's to get around airbag standards.
joe rogan
So they don't have airbags?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
What the fuck kind of car piece of shit is that?
matt farah
You want a fucking lightweight car or not, bitch?
joe rogan
This guy just got done telling me the airbag saved his life.
alex ross
Yeah, they did, actually.
matt farah
You want a raw?
So buy a fucking Porsche if you want an airbag.
joe rogan
Is that the honest thing?
matt farah
Yeah, yeah.
That's the Noble M600, yeah.
joe rogan
That doesn't have any airbags?
matt farah
No.
alex ross
Hmm.
matt farah
Or it might have first generation.
It doesn't have smart airbags.
alex ross
But you saw, you know, like on Top Gear, I mean, they test stuff.
Obviously they test stuff the way they do, but you saw that thing didn't even last the test.
They had to like...
Did you see that episode?
matt farah
Yeah, it broke on Top Gear.
alex ross
It broke on Top Gear.
joe rogan
Oh, that's not good.
matt farah
Well, a lot of cars break.
joe rogan
That is true.
alex ross
No, but not like that.
No, the Zenvo was...
Oh, that was crazy.
matt farah
They implied that the Tesla Roadster ran out of battery.
alex ross
Yeah, that wasn't cool.
matt farah
It didn't actually run out of battery.
It had some kind of issue.
It had some kind of issue, so they had to push it.
So they got, someone got like, get a shot of them pushing it.
They got a shot of them pushing it, and then they did a voiceover implying that it had run out of battery.
When actually it was being pushed for a completely unrelated reason.
joe rogan
How douchey.
matt farah
The judge sided with Top Gear, actually.
unidentified
Really?
matt farah
Yeah, the judge sided with Top Gear.
joe rogan
As creative license, just to make a funny show?
matt farah
As they said that it wasn't slanderous because it wasn't, you know, beyond the realm of possibility.
alex ross
The Zenvo guys actually ended up suing them, though.
matt farah
Yeah, well, their car caught on fire.
alex ross
Their supercar caught on fire on Top Gear, and that was like the replacement car for the replacement.
So it didn't go down too well.
joe rogan
So wait a minute.
They had a car that caught on fire or it broke?
alex ross
So it was a car from Holland.
joe rogan
First one broke and then the second one caught on fire?
alex ross
Yep.
joe rogan
And they blamed Top Gear?
Is that what happened?
alex ross
Well, they said that, yeah, they sued him for libel because they were basically saying...
matt farah
They shat all over the car!
alex ross
Yeah, they just...
joe rogan
Why did you not?
matt farah
They should.
It's a piece of shit.
It's a silly lawsuit.
joe rogan
You send me a car, and one of them breaks, and the other one catches on fire.
alex ross
That's not a good way to go.
joe rogan
It doesn't fucking warn the troops.
matt farah
Well, then they eventually got it working, and they had to do a lap around the track, and they do the laps, but it was wet, and this car's got 1,000 horsepower, so it was slower than a Ford Ford.
alex ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just sliding all over the place.
unidentified
Yeah, it was bad.
alex ross
You know what it was?
It's just, I think, and, you know, we probably could be guilty of doing this too, but when you work on something for, you know, two, three years, you're in your own cave, and you just forget what the rest of the world is really like, and you just start believing your own Crap, you know?
joe rogan
Certainly.
No one's perfect.
That can definitely happen.
matt farah
That car is definitely a piece of shit.
alex ross
I just think, for sure.
joe rogan
I listen to you, my friend.
matt farah
It is a fucking...
joe rogan
You're one of the main reasons that I stopped that process of building that old Porsche.
Oh, really?
I stopped?
matt farah
Why did I stop?
joe rogan
You were talking to me about it.
You were saying, don't kill yourself, get a 73. And I was like, well, everybody says that you drive one of those things and it's just incredible.
He's like, meh.
Not really.
People like to say that, but not really.
It's kind of cool for a while, but you're going to get tired of it.
matt farah
This is the car, the Zenvo, that caught on fire.
joe rogan
That looks pretty badass, though.
unidentified
It kind of does.
joe rogan
This looks like what an NSX from 2015 should look like.
matt farah
It's a good-looking car, to their credit.
joe rogan
NSX, make a car like that and put a fucking stick shift in it, bitch.
If they could just do that, if they made the new NSX, but it's gonna be four-wheel drive too.
alex ross
Yeah, which is like so anti-NSX. It's crazy.
It's just a badge at this point.
joe rogan
Someone would make a really minimalist car.
Just cut out all fucking no navigation, no radio.
matt farah
But from a real manufacturer that has like, that builds real things.
alex ross
Right, but that's what the GT3 RS is kind of that.
It has a little, okay, it has AC, although you can order it without if you want to be that stupid.
joe rogan
It certainly is.
unidentified
Well, actually, does anyone get the cars without AC? So, yes, there were a couple of people.
alex ross
I'm not going to name names.
I'm not going to name you.
It wasn't me.
matt farah
People who smell their own farts.
alex ross
It wasn't me.
joe rogan
People want everybody to smell them.
They need a reason.
alex ross
Come on, in California.
joe rogan
They're a stinky fetish.
Oh, that was Matt Farah's voice, not Joe Rogan's or Alex Ross.
alex ross
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Down the river, sail!
alex ross
I love all people.
Everyone.
matt farah
Did I just dive onto the Persian buses?
joe rogan
They're not going to care.
unidentified
They're comfortable, friendly, very successful people.
matt farah
They can just go back to their Mercedes with gold badges.
joe rogan
Who's more successful in America than Persians?
Hey, do you play pool, dude?
alex ross
Because you're going the way I'm going with this, man.
matt farah
Who's more successful in America than what?
joe rogan
Persians are super successful.
unidentified
They are.
matt farah
They're good negotiators.
joe rogan
Are they?
matt farah
They try.
They fucking try.
joe rogan
Some folks love that.
They love to barter.
I'm not really a barterer.
I'm not into that shit at all.
matt farah
Fuck it, just I'll pay you full price.
unidentified
Can we just get out of here sometime today?
alex ross
How do you barter if there's a price on there already?
How do you do that?
joe rogan
Some people just do.
matt farah
You tell them, hey, bro, this is no good, this price.
joe rogan
Come on, bro.
matt farah
I'll give you better price.
joe rogan
This fucking $2,000 for this TV, bro.
This is not a $2,000 TV, bro.
It's a good TV, bro.
It's not $2,000, you know.
I know Samsung, okay?
I know there's a dude who I went to school with.
His uncle is Samsung, alright?
I can call Sam right now and give me the fucking straight dope of the shitbox TV you got.
This is last year's, bro.
This is last year's.
You're going to have to get rid of this soon, right?
Come on, bro.
unidentified
This is your good guy's voice or Circuit City, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's my Slavic hustler voice.
unidentified
Hopefully we don't get to the point where you need that one.
joe rogan
It's possible.
matt farah
I feel like you could be like a Slavic guy in a Guy Ritchie movie.
joe rogan
I would love that.
I would love that.
I'd be so happy.
matt farah
You know that guy, Nick?
There's a guy named Nick Moran who's in Logstock.
He plays Nick.
And I happened to find myself at a bar.
And I sat down next to this guy.
Holy shit, anyone ever tell you the guy from fucking Lockstock?
And it was him.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That was a great fucking movie.
alex ross
That was great, dude.
joe rogan
Whatever.
You know, no big deal.
You took a chance.
What are the odds?
matt farah
I was the only guy right there at that bar that asked him if he was the guy from Lockstock.
joe rogan
What are the odds, lad?
What are the odds?
Nothing wrong with asking that question.
That guy, Guy Ritchie, had some fucking banging movies, though.
unidentified
Yeah, he did.
matt farah
He had a run.
What happened?
joe rogan
Madonna.
Madonna sucked her soul out of his dick.
That's how she got younger.
In that relationship, she lost about five years of age.
She pulled it right out of his cock.
All his creativity in the middle of the night, she'd mount him like a fucking demon.
Like little claws, clinging, holding him in place.
Fucking milking him.
Sucking his fucking soul right out of his dick.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
He'll recover, but it's going to take a few years.
He'll come out with some new snatch, you know?
unidentified
Snatch, too, yeah.
matt farah
We'll call it Snatch, too.
The poster's just Madonna's face.
joe rogan
Yeah, just Madonna.
bending over to pick up her toothbrush.
matt farah
Oh, that.
joe rogan
Snatched two.
Who died in Snatch?
Snatch 3. The old diamond guy, right?
Isn't he dead?
alex ross
Yeah.
matt farah
Wait, which fuck?
joe rogan
The old Jewish diamond guy?
matt farah
Yeah, yeah.
Dennis Farina?
joe rogan
Yeah, Dennis Farina, who's fucking awesome.
alex ross
Don't go to London.
joe rogan
He died in real life, too, right?
matt farah
Yeah.
In fact, I think he lived in the movie and died in real life.
joe rogan
That guy was great.
alex ross
He was Cousin Avi.
No, Cousin Avi was the other guy, the English guy.
joe rogan
What a great fucking movie that was.
Lockstock was great, and Snatch was great.
Both of them were fucking great.
alex ross
I liked Lockstock better, though.
That was the original.
And actually what they said was Snatch was...
Sort of watered down.
It was like the rehash of it, so that you guys didn't need subtitles.
joe rogan
Well, he had enough- It's always this, you guys shit.
Again, my country brings you in, we're paying to you, we let you under our nuclear umbrella.
What do you do?
You shit all over us.
You talk shit about our pool-playing abilities, how we like to brag on what we can do, and it's never really true.
We're too stupid to understand the German cars, so they give us a watered-down version.
What the fuck, bro?
What the fuck?
I got two words for you.
Toby Keith.
Okay?
matt farah
Toby fucking Keith.
joe rogan
That's what America makes.
Should've been a cowboy.
alex ross
Yeah, I admitted...
matt farah
You see the 9-11 song guy, too?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex ross
Dude, I admitted the...
Yeah, no.
I told you...
unidentified
Yuck.
matt farah
Fucking 9-11 song.
unidentified
I'm looking at...
The look in your face while you were saying, yuck!
It was just such a perfect look and a perfect yuck.
joe rogan
Was that the guy with the 9-11 song?
unidentified
Yuck!
joe rogan
Oh, that was funny.
matt farah
What would you do?
unidentified
Oh, no!
joe rogan
I tell you what I wouldn't do.
I wouldn't make that fucking song.
We need some better friends.
We need some friends that listen to that shit and go, man, Toby, you might want to try from the beginning.
Start all over again with this one.
matt farah
You ever think the reason you're not a famous musician is because if you came up with half the shit on the radio, you'd go, no, this is terrible, and just throw it away and never play it again?
joe rogan
No, I'm not a famous musician because I have no musical talent whatsoever.
alex ross
You guys could teach us wrestling.
That's what you could do.
You guys could teach us wrestling.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
alex ross
Americans, man.
You guys are good at that.
Very good at that.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
I don't believe in you guys.
First of all, I don't believe in you guys in this fucking country because this country is basically a colony of people who came from somewhere else.
The idea that we're all the same but we came from somewhere else is pretty fucking stupid and kind of, you know, it doesn't work that way.
alex ross
Yeah, but all Australians are criminals.
matt farah
The immigrant people...
joe rogan
They're not anymore.
matt farah
The immigration people refuse to believe that they were immigrants at one point.
alex ross
Yeah.
matt farah
It's a great one.
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
The whole country full of immigrants won't let it in.
We've had enough.
We've decided.
This is it.
The doors are closed.
The sale is over.
matt farah
There was a great commentary on immigration.
This dude was like a Canadian illegal immigrant and like lived in Arizona for like four years.
No one gets questioned.
Nobody questions him ever.
joe rogan
You can tell everybody.
Yeah, I don't even have my green card.
They're like, okay, you want me to pay in cash?
matt farah
No one gives a fuck.
The gardeners are getting picked off fucking one by one by INS, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's really a racist thing.
It's fucking hard to get into this country and get papers.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard to immigrate to America.
alex ross
I had to take the test.
Let me tell you.
joe rogan
And you're white as fuck.
How was the test?
matt farah
How did it go for you?
alex ross
What was your score?
I studied history.
It was a perfect score.
And you know what else?
There was this series on HBO at the time.
joe rogan
Yo, don't brag, bro.
alex ross
No, dude, dude.
I'm just telling you.
I'm telling you.
unidentified
I'm just telling you.
alex ross
Okay, so you guys make good TV. It was on, what was it?
joe rogan
Again with his you guys shit!
alex ross
Dude, it was John Adams, right?
You remember that?
matt farah
Yeah, John Adams.
alex ross
You know John Adams.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was on HBO at the time.
It really helped me with my test.
matt farah
Paul Giamatti, John Adams, right?
alex ross
Yeah, yeah, that one, that one.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
alex ross
It was good.
It was good shit.
unidentified
Okay.
alex ross
You didn't eat, well, it was on HBO. You guys.
matt farah
You guys are fucking, we do make good fucking TV, though.
alex ross
You do, you do.
We make good car shows.
joe rogan
What does this country look like from afar?
When you're trying to talk about, not the visual look, but when you're talking about how crazy this country is.
As someone who grew up in Britain, when you come over here and you see, when you're looking at America from Britain, what is your impression of it?
Does it seem as ridiculous as it does once you're here, or does it seem more ridiculous because you're over there in England?
alex ross
So I'll tell you the honest, honest truth, right?
I went to the, like, pretty much the best school in England, you know, the princes and the royal family go there, out there too, Westminster.
Remember I said 1060, it was built in 1066. Someone is posh.
No, I just dropped eating, son.
Dude, I just took the plums out of my mouth as soon as I came here because nobody understood the damn thing I said.
I couldn't even order McDonald's here.
joe rogan
Because you were too posh.
alex ross
Pretty much, yeah.
matt farah
They don't know what a Royale with cheese is on this side of the pond.
alex ross
No, that's a different country.
That's France, bro.
joe rogan
That's Europe.
alex ross
That's Europe.
That's like a stone throw away.
The honest truth is that, you know, a small little island, you know, you come over here and you really can do all this crazy shit here that I could never have done like this tuning stuff with Porsches or overclocking PCs, being a dot-com person, you know, internet celebrity.
I could never have done that in England.
You know why?
Because we're just behind there and everyone's like, no.
joe rogan
Is that still the case though?
alex ross
Dude, you just get pigeonholed and you have to have parents or friends or know somebody.
I mean, I literally, you know, I met some really cool people and I just said, hey, let's just start fucking around with Porsches.
I mean...
joe rogan
You mean once you came to America?
alex ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
What I was trying to get at was like, what's the opinion of America when you're living over in England?
Does it look like when you see people, we're invading Afghanistan, fucking blowing up Iraq, and sending missiles into Pakistan from robots that fly in the sky, sucking up all the oil from all over the world.
alex ross
I'll tell you what, that stuff didn't bug us at all.
joe rogan
You're fucking awesome neighbors.
alex ross
No, I didn't.
No, I didn't.
What really fucking pissed us off.
joe rogan
This guy's serious.
Let him talk.
alex ross
Is when you come into our pubs with your shitty rain jackets, you know, talking to all Americans.
joe rogan
Is this we again?
alex ross
Yeah, yeah, it's you guys.
matt farah
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Matt Farah!
matt farah
We didn't do nothing!
I don't own a single North Face item.
joe rogan
I know nothing!
matt farah
North Face, no Palagonia.
joe rogan
Over here with this bullshit.
matt farah
None of that shit.
alex ross
Yeah, so, you know, don't be surprised when, you know, you get beaten up.
unidentified
I wear only barber when I'm in the UK. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
joe rogan
Don't be surprised when you get beaten up.
I'm always surprised when I get beaten up.
If you're getting beaten up so often that you're not surprised, I'd be like, God damn, man, you gotta fucking go to different places.
You gotta talk to people nicer.
If you're just fucking getting beaten up left and right, it's not surprising.
You're fucking making some critical errors basically everywhere you go.
I'm fucking constantly shocked when I'm beaten up.
Every time it's ever happened, I've been like, what the fuck did I do this?
Let's break this all down and never repeat this problem again.
He's like, well, they were wearing the wrong jacket, so we had a cone of them and beat them up for the queen.
Hey, mate!
You got the wrong colors on!
matt farah
It's like the North Face Inquisition.
joe rogan
And you was born on the wrong patch of dirt!
matt farah
We signed the Patagonia Charter in 2014!
joe rogan
Knuckle sandwich coming your way, mate!
unidentified
It's like V for Vendetta against all-weather gear.
alex ross
Okay, you know what?
We do like you guys...
joe rogan
Oh, what are you afraid of a little water, mate?
Afraid of getting your neck wet!
alex ross
No, you know what movie you need to see is Sexy Beast.
That's what you need to watch.
joe rogan
I've seen that movie.
How do you know what the fuck I've seen?
You're telling me what movie I need to see?
Maybe I saw that movie twice!
matt farah
You people don't see Sexy Beast.
joe rogan
Yeah, you people don't even know how to make a good proper movie.
unidentified
I'll tell you something else.
matt farah
You can't hear Jimmy.
joe rogan
I can't hear Jimmy Saville.
What was up with that?
How did you guys let that guy bang on those kids?
alex ross
That guy was a freaking creep.
matt farah
Is that our Jerry Sandusky?
alex ross
Yeah, he's way worse.
When you work for the BBC that long, he was just like a piece of furniture and nobody would say anything or do anything.
joe rogan
Actually, I don't know how you could say way worse, because I read Chandusky probably.
unidentified
No, dude.
joe rogan
Probably, it was probably even, no matter how many people they've hosted.
alex ross
Okay, he's way worse.
I mean, you know, he was basically dealing with handicapped kids.
joe rogan
Yeah.
alex ross
You know, that's, like, kids that were, you know, 6 to 10 years old.
That's...
matt farah
Was he a newscaster or something?
alex ross
No, he was like, you know, Make Your Wish Foundation over here.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
That's him?
alex ross
Yeah, dude.
matt farah
Fuck off.
alex ross
No, dude.
matt farah
I can tell you with one picture that guy touches kids.
alex ross
That's him when he was young.
If you look at him...
Jesus.
Look at him later on.
unidentified
Maybe...
alex ross
Oh, man.
When he got all his white hair...
matt farah
That was the creepiest looking guy I've seen in a while.
joe rogan
You know what else is a good guy?
unidentified
There you go.
alex ross
That's more like it.
That's how I remember him.
Growing up, watching TV, I remember him.
So he would make your wish come true.
So if you wanted to meet an athlete or you wanted to meet a race car driver, you would write him a letter.
You'd say, Dear Jimmy, I'm a poor kid in Middlesbrough, which is a place in England.
And I always wanted to meet James Hunt.
He would make that happen.
joe rogan
He's like, Jim will fix it.
matt farah
That was his letter.
alex ross
Jim will fix it.
joe rogan
We had Louis Theroux on the podcast.
The documentarian from England.
Fantastic guy.
Have you ever seen his documentaries?
matt farah
No.
Or maybe I have.
I don't think so.
joe rogan
He followed that guy.
He hung out with that guy for days and interviewed him several, several times and then got to the point of relationships and girlfriends.
And, you know, it was really creepy because he was basically saying, like, one?
A single one?
Like, no, never.
You know?
Never.
Never had a girlfriend have friends that are girls, you know?
And he was just sort of skirting around the issue and he's sitting there with a cigar.
alex ross
Yeah, he always smoked cigars.
That's right.
joe rogan
His legs cross in that strange praying mantis position that older dudes that have had a lot of atrophy of their thigh muscles feel super comfortable bending their legs in that way.
And he's there with his little foot dangling and he's talking about he's never had one girl.
matt farah
And just counting down the minutes until you can touch another kid.
joe rogan
You know how you get meat sweats after you eat at Rootscrisp?
He's getting meat sweats, thinking about kids, just waiting for this fucking...
He's got a million kids on his phone, he's ready to text.
matt farah
The second this guy leaves, the door blows open in a wave of kids.
joe rogan
He sends one giant mass text to every kid on his phone.
alex ross
What was weird, though, at the time, you would see him, right?
unidentified
You would see him.
joe rogan
Smiley.
alex ross
He would get all physical with the kids and stuff.
You would see him hugging them and nobody raised a question or an eyebrow.
joe rogan
He used to put them on his lap.
alex ross
Yeah, on his lap and everything.
matt farah
You people are fucked up.
alex ross
I agree.
That was messed up.
joe rogan
What happened was the guy had become, according to Louis Theroux, the guy had become a huge celebrity and was almost untouchable because he was so loved.
And he had all these charitable organizations.
And that's the same way Sandusky hid his pedophilia was through charitable organizations.
Do charities for kids that didn't have families, kids who were injured, kids who were sick.
matt farah
Kids who had no one to talk to.
joe rogan
Michael Jackson was the same thing.
Michael Jackson would work with a lot of kids that had terminal illnesses.
Which is the darkest shit ever.
Because you know that he was praying those kids didn't recover.
No.
In the back of his head, he was like, please die.
Please die with your secrets.
Billy doesn't want to talk to you right now.
But he's talking crazy.
He's talking about werewolves, fairies.
I think he's just making shit up.
Go ahead, talk to him.
matt farah
He must be at the end.
He's not lucid.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
He's making things up and I don't understand.
I was in the room with him the whole time.
There was no fairies.
alex ross
Well, okay, so it's not a good idea to have your teenage kid hang around with a grown dude, basically.
joe rogan
No, well, it depends on the grown dude.
I mean, look, there's a lot of guys.
matt farah
If it's a grown dude who doesn't like to touch kids' dicks.
unidentified
Exactly.
matt farah
That's a good filter.
Start there, work backwards.
joe rogan
When I was 19 or 20, I used to take my buddy's brother, who was like 13, fishing.
I never fucked him once.
alex ross
No, but you were only 19. I'm talking about like a 70-year-old.
joe rogan
He's a fucking good kid, and he likes to fish, and I do too.
alex ross
And you just left him hanging like that?
joe rogan
Just because I was way older than I was seven or eight years older than him.
We went fishing together.
I brought him home.
We had a great time.
Nobody got touched.
You can have a little friend.
matt farah
I know how hard that is to avoid.
It wasn't hard.
joe rogan
It was very easy.
alex ross
Not fishing for sharks, right?
joe rogan
I don't have those instincts anymore.
alex ross
Not fishing for sharks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Not fishing for sharks.
No, we were freshwater fishing.
alex ross
Because I told you what happened.
joe rogan
But I would fish for sharks.
With guns, harpoons.
alex ross
Nope.
joe rogan
I would use everything possible to fish for sharks.
alex ross
Those fins do not make your wang bigger.
unidentified
They do not.
joe rogan
I'm not talking about fins.
I'm talking about killing sharks.
See, listen.
You've got a thing for sharks, dude.
We need to talk about this on the podcast.
Just because your nickname is Sharky.
Okay?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
What if your nickname was Cocky?
Would you be running around trying to save dicks?
alex ross
I'd just say I was good at pool.
joe rogan
Trying to stop circumcision.
matt farah
This company would be called Cockworks.
alex ross
Cockworks.
joe rogan
He's standing there.
Best Porsche mechanic in the world.
Standing there.
No jobs.
Looking on the street left and right.
Maybe we need to change our phone number.
matt farah
1-800-CAR. Car's like faster than Formula One cars, but it's got badges all over it.
unidentified
With dicks on them.
matt farah
Nobody wants it.
joe rogan
You know how bad the Porsche GT3 RS logos are, the little stickers all over the bars?
unidentified
Oh, there's a terrible thing.
joe rogan
His would be even worse.
It'd be just jizz.
matt farah
Just veiny.
joe rogan
Just big dicks.
Big dicks and spooch.
alex ross
Big orange dicks.
joe rogan
And the spooch should be going forward, which doesn't even make any sense.
The car's driving for the spooch should be maybe going backwards like an exhaust.
unidentified
Yeah, it's...
joe rogan
Jet the car into the proper direction.
matt farah
I'm going to get you a 118-scale GT3 and hand-painted fucking cockworks.
unidentified
Yes.
alex ross
Yes.
We want that.
joe rogan
Listen, sharks suck, okay?
I know they're necessary.
And when I say this, so many people are like, you're so fucking ignorant and closed mind.
I'll get these tweets.
You need to relax.
First of all, I don't believe the fucking thing I'm saying right now.
I'm not in court.
I'm not giving an affidavit.
I'm not teaching the children.
This is what I'm saying.
Fuck sharks.
And I'm saying if I had a grenade and it was attached to a spear, I'd stuff it right into a shark's dick and blow him right out of the water just in the chance that maybe he could bite somebody that I love.
How about that?
Not really.
How about that?
Not really.
matt farah
It's cold as ice.
joe rogan
That's how I roll.
When it comes to the ocean, the ocean can all suck my dick.
This is what I want to do with the ocean.
I want to take parts of it and net it in and then throw in shit that can grow that I can eat later.
Just keep it trapped and then when I want it, I scoop it up with nets.
That's all I care about fish.
I give zero fucks about fish.
Every fish that's ever lived can go, fuck its mother.
I don't care.
matt farah
What fish touched you?
joe rogan
Nothing.
Nothing.
I'm on team people.
I'm not into fish.
matt farah
Did a grouper put his mouth on you?
joe rogan
This is all I have to say.
If you're a person, okay, and you have a pet fish and it dies and you cry, you're a fucking silly bitch.
That fish didn't know you were alive.
It doesn't give a fuck about you.
If you drop dead in front of it, it couldn't care less.
It couldn't possibly care less.
unidentified
But you're like, oh no, it was my favorite fish.
Boo!
joe rogan
Fuck fish.
matt farah
What five-year-olds are tweeting at you about their fish?
joe rogan
No one, but I'm just anticipating.
alex ross
I've never even had a goldfish.
joe rogan
I had a huge tank filled with piranhas.
alex ross
Yeah?
matt farah
How'd that end?
joe rogan
It was pretty dope.
I got rid of them.
I heard it was illegal, and I said, I just won't stand for this any longer.
unidentified
Did you throw shit in the tank and all she fucking gets shredded?
joe rogan
Yes.
alex ross
Were they red-bellied piranhas?
Redbelly or the black ones?
Which ones?
joe rogan
Well, I had two different kinds of piranhas.
I had redbelly piranhas and I had these other ones that were like silver.
I forgot what they were called, but they were different.
They looked a little different, but they were all ruthless.
alex ross
They were like larger?
matt farah
Did it ever get boring watching them shred shit?
joe rogan
No, they're boring when they're not shredding shit.
When they're not shredding shit, they're just murderous statues.
They'd just sit there.
And they'd just look at you and wait.
And then what you'd do is you'd go to the store and get a bag of goldfish.
That's what I would do.
And I'd bring dudes over the house to watch feeding.
unidentified
Popcorn?
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was young and single, man.
I'd have my friends over.
I'd be like, dude, dude, dude, tonight's feeding time.
Come on over.
And I would go get a giant bag of goldfish and unleash it.
And at one point in time, I think, I don't know how many piranhas I had, but it was more than one.
And it was a fucking rampage.
alex ross
Ever seen Piranha's Mate?
joe rogan
No.
What I would do is I would not feed them for several days.
alex ross
Oh, like the bull technique.
joe rogan
You've got to time it right.
Because if you time it wrong, they eat each other.
They'll find the one who is the weakest.
You don't want to feed them every day, but you want to feed them every few days.
The key is don't get them to worry.
About when their next meal comes.
Just get it so that they're hungry.
And then you put the goldfish in.
And you just watch nature.
matt farah
Do the whole water just turn red?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
They cut them in half.
They swim in just one bite.
And then you'll see the tail try to swim away by itself.
And then the other one will take and swallow the tail in one bite.
And they were just dissecting goldfish in midair.
unidentified
That's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Cutting them in half.
alex ross
Yeah, and they don't touch each other at all, right?
joe rogan
Oh, wrong!
They would leave at the end of feeding with chunks missing from their faces.
alex ross
Really?
joe rogan
Because they would bite each other's faces in the middle of these mad...
alex ross
Maybe it was just yours.
Maybe it was just your ones.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
matt farah
Are there YouTube videos of this?
Do people have tank cams and shit?
unidentified
I'm sure.
joe rogan
I'm sure people have it.
matt farah
That's the rest of my night.
The whole key...
joe rogan
Watching a piranha feed was just getting it hungry.
Because if I fed them every day, I found out that they wouldn't even feed right away.
I'd pour the goldfish in there, and they'd look at them like, later.
matt farah
I had a fucking...
When I was a kid, I had a turtle, like a whatever turtle, and you'd feed it goldfish.
joe rogan
Those are ruthless.
matt farah
Are they?
Mine was all right.
joe rogan
Dude, turtles are more ruthless than piranhas.
alex ross
They nip your little fingers and stuff on them.
matt farah
Well, this one, one goldfish that was a feeder fish survived two fucking years.
Lived with the turtle in the tank.
Endless rounds of other fish.
This one little tiny goldfish.
They just were friends.
It was like...
alex ross
So did your piranhas die or did you cry?
joe rogan
No, I got rid of the piranhas.
alex ross
You got rid of them?
matt farah
What do you do when you get rid of a piranha?
alex ross
Yeah, how do you do that?
joe rogan
I call the guy.
alex ross
What guy?
joe rogan
This was a long time ago.
This was decades ago and far past the...
alex ross
It was in another country probably.
unidentified
The legal...
joe rogan
What is the fucking...
matt farah
L.A. River?
Statue of Libertations.
joe rogan
Statue of Libertations.
alex ross
Oh, that, that, yeah.
Legal Zoom.
joe rogan
What it is is you...
If you...
With an animal like that, first of all, the number one responsibility is to make sure it doesn't get out somewhere.
And that's where assholes have released these fucking things into other areas, and that's why they're illegal.
alex ross
In Florida, after Hurricane Andrew, all those pet stores that had pythons and all those other fish and stuff, that's all infested all of Florida.
joe rogan
You know, they like to blame it on that, but it's also just white trash douchebag.
unidentified
It's also Florida.
matt farah
Florida's the worst fucking place on Earth.
joe rogan
It's not really America.
alex ross
I have been there, and it wasn't again.
matt farah
I wouldn't mind letting them leave.
They want to.
I know they want to.
joe rogan
They can go.
matt farah
It's okay.
joe rogan
They can get their shit together, like any fucked up uncle.
It's like, I hope he finds ayahuasca, gets into therapy, does MDMA, fucking pulls himself out of the ashes like the phoenix he is.
But the reality is, a giant percentage of Florida is filled with fucking idiots.
There's a lot of cool people in Florida.
I have friends in Florida.
Nothing wrong with Florida as a whole, but there's a lot of...
My parents live in Florida.
alex ross
Yeah, everyone goes to retire there, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of people love Florida.
There's good spots in Florida.
I love performing in Florida.
People are fun.
It's just, it's obviously not everybody, but there's a giant percentage of fucking idiots there, and they have those pythons that just, well, he got too big for the house, so I figured I'd keep him out in the backyard, and I was going to be on the fence, but I came back, he was gone!
matt farah
What do you want me to do?
joe rogan
Now you got a fucking 20-foot-long python out there eating horses and shit.
Climbing into stables and swallowing people.
I mean, these are murderous, fucking heartless monsters from the depths of the swamps.
alex ross
Yeah, and the environment's perfect for them, right?
So they grow and grow, and they've got nobody to...
joe rogan
No natural predators.
alex ross
Yeah, they go bonkers there.
joe rogan
It's very dangerous.
When you introduce an animal...
matt farah
Billy the exterminator, she in Florida.
joe rogan
Oh, well, they have python exterminators.
They even have contests, but the problem is they can't find them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, they go out looking in the Everglades, and then they realize how big the fucking Everglades are.
They've gone on these Python contests.
alex ross
Well, they do have this thing called camouflage, too, so they're good at that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they're not even from that area.
You would think that their colors wouldn't be...
I guess it's good enough.
alex ross
It's good enough, yeah.
joe rogan
But I just think it's the Everglades.
It's just so fucking dense.
matt farah
Yeah, dude.
You're not finding shit out there.
joe rogan
And they're eating everything.
matt farah
They're eating alligators.
I buried, like, three bodies out there.
I know.
You're not finding shit.
joe rogan
They eat alligators.
alex ross
Yeah, I know.
That's freaking crazy.
joe rogan
That's all you have to know.
There's a video of one eating a fucking alligator.
alex ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
A full video.
matt farah
Is the alligator going to put up a fight or is it like a sleep?
joe rogan
No, it's fucking fighting, but it doesn't matter.
alex ross
Yeah, but the problem is the more they fight, the more they constrict, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, pythons, what they do is they grab ahold of you and then you're heaving and you're exhaling.
Inhaling and exhaling.
And when you exhale, wham!
That's when it clamps down on you.
And then you try to breathe again and bam!
It clamps down a little.
And it just...
Cuts all the air off.
matt farah
I just gave over that.
joe rogan
And the way it gets a hold of him, it's like, it's so ruthless and efficient.
alex ross
Peruvian necktie.
matt farah
Did it swallow the alligator hole?
unidentified
Here it is.
joe rogan
There's pictures of it.
There's a video of it, Jamie.
See if you can find the video.
It's incredible.
It happened in Australia.
These people watched it all happen.
So I guess it was actually a crocodile.
It was a python, because Australia doesn't have alligators.
And crocodiles are even more dangerous.
matt farah
Crocodiles are nasty.
joe rogan
So that's how gangster pythons are.
They're fucking crocodiles.
What a fuck.
matt farah
When one eats a shark...
That's when the world will fucking stop.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you know what's interesting, though?
Cats kill the snakes.
matt farah
Big cats always kill snakes.
My little cat killed a fucking snake once.
It was badass.
joe rogan
Yeah, they can kill snakes.
They know exactly what to do.
They go right for the back of the head.
They're too fucking fast.
Look at this shit.
This is the battle.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
So this python has wrapped around a goddamn...
alex ross
Look at the girth of that freaking python.
matt farah
That is a monster python, though.
That's no joke.
joe rogan
And that's a small crocodile, too.
That's a baby crocodile.
matt farah
Nevertheless, I say count it.
alex ross
I mean, any crocodile is a crocodile.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, when I say little, I think they said it was four foot.
alex ross
Okay, so that could bite your hand off.
joe rogan
Big enough that I'm not getting anywhere near my dick.
unidentified
Look at that!
alex ross
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
Look at how it's swallowing its body.
It's expanding its mouth, unhinging its jaw, and then its whole body just slowly takes it up.
matt farah
Just straight up, head first.
alex ross
He's BJJing the crap out of that poor little alligator.
joe rogan
It's such a fucking ruthless world, the world of nature.
And anybody who has a pet python is an asshole.
You're crazy.
You're keeping a monster in your house.
And the only reason why it's not killing you is because it's not big enough yet or it doesn't know that it has to or wants to.
Once it decides...
What are you going to do?
If it's 20 feet long, what the fuck are you going to do if a 20 foot long python...
matt farah
Do people have 20 foot long pythons in their house?
alex ross
Yes!
matt farah
I guess somewhere...
joe rogan
Some asshole has one.
Guaranteed.
He's got some fucking patio.
matt farah
They've gotten people recently in New York with tigers.
joe rogan
Yeah.
alex ross
The fuck...
joe rogan
Well, there was a documentary, The Elephant in the Living Room.
Did you see it?
No.
Me neither.
I was hoping you saw it.
It's about people that keep exotic pets as, you know, exotic animals, wild animals as pets.
And it focused on that guy, I think, in Ohio, who had all these animals.
He wound up killing himself, releasing all the animals, then killing himself.
And all these lions and shit were wandering down the street, and the cops...
The cops had to kill him.
This is a small town in Ohio.
You can't call in some animal experts.
By then, you lost track of your lions.
They had to kill him on sight.
It's apparently a fascinating documentary.
It's on my must-watch list.
matt farah
Elephant in the Living Room?
joe rogan
Yeah, Elephant in the Living Room.
It's supposed to be pretty badass.
Watch it next week or come back.
I can't believe I recommended that piece of shit.
Have you ever done that?
Recommend something sight unseen and it turns out to be fucking crap.
You know what car, I hope, getting back to cars, that they keep around is that Audi R8. They will.
That thing is a crazy car.
matt farah
They've sold enough of them that they'll continue developing it.
joe rogan
I looked at that thing and I was like, that thing hasn't changed almost like a 911 since the moment that they created it.
It's only been five years.
alex ross
You know what though?
It drives a lot better than the V10 Lamborghinis.
joe rogan
Does it really?
matt farah
It's nicer to deal with on a daily basis too.
joe rogan
It has a gated shifter.
matt farah
You can still get it with a stick.
joe rogan
It's like one of the last cars with a gated shifter.
What is it like shifting?
matt farah
Just like the Ferraris.
joe rogan
It's a little slower doing it that way.
matt farah
While shifting it that way?
joe rogan
Yeah, but you get click, click, click.
matt farah
That metal on metal, oh, it's delicious.
joe rogan
Like a little slower, but a different kind of satisfaction, right?
So it goes back to that thing.
It's not about zero to 60 times.
alex ross
It's about what does it do to you So, you know, when you're playing Gran Turismo, or when you're playing...
joe rogan
I don't play that shit.
alex ross
Sorry, dude.
Outrun.
Okay, when you're playing Outrun, okay?
You put it in the automatic mode if you wanted to advance in the game.
joe rogan
Oh, okay, that's the game at the arcade?
alex ross
Is that what you mean?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, if you want to finish the game, quickly get over to the next level, get the better cars.
Yeah, you put it in automatic mode, right?
You would.
So it's easier.
But unless you're a paid race car driver on the track, are you really having that much more fun by just holding the steering wheel and pushing the gas pedal?
joe rogan
I have no problem with automatic transmissions.
I just think they should have both.
Because there's too many people that like it the other way.
There's too many people that are bemoaning the lost transmission.
alex ross
Yeah, no, no, I agree.
It's got its place.
But I don't think the GT3 was...
The place.
That was like the wrong place to put that transmission.
matt farah
They did make a silly argument for it because there's still some cars like a Corvette ZR1 and like a Viper that have a stick that'll beat it around a track.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's also that weird thing that automotive journalists do where they go, listen, just go with the PDK. Trust me.
I've seen that a bunch of times.
The PDK's better.
matt farah
We do that.
I'm guilty of that.
I've done that before.
joe rogan
But what is that?
Where does that come from?
matt farah
It was.
It was because Porsche's seven-speed shifter sucks.
Oh, right.
I'd rather have a stick than paddles, but if the shifter isn't any good, there's sort of no point.
joe rogan
But you're being honest about that.
I think a lot of people are not honest about it.
alex ross
The sad thing is that's like a $200 fix, like in our parts.
joe rogan
Is it really?
alex ross
To make a shitty Carrera shifter.
matt farah
Just bushings?
alex ross
Yeah, like linkages and bushings.
joe rogan
So you could take one of those seven speeds and make it a good shifter?
alex ross
Yeah, I haven't done the seven speeds, but the six speeds before it, you know, like a Carrera S or a turbo that felt a little sloppy, you know, it didn't feel as good as your GT3. Didn't click into place?
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the, um, so what would you do about that then?
alex ross
You'd take the shifter out, you'd take the console out.
joe rogan
So the seven speeds that they have now in the 991s, do you think you could upgrade that?
alex ross
Yeah, you can do those.
You can fix those too.
joe rogan
What would you have to do?
alex ross
Just take the console out, take the shifter out.
There's an American company, B&M. They make shifters.
I think you can retrofit some of the linkages and stuff too from the older cars.
matt farah
$25,000.
alex ross
No, no, no.
joe rogan
It's too bad you couldn't fit it with a six-speed.
unidentified
I don't know why you need seven gears anyway.
alex ross
Why don't you just make nine?
matt farah
Well, Porsches wind pretty high, so that 7th is really, really just for a road trip.
If you're going to just get on the highway and drive for five hours, just stick the fucking thing in 7th, and you'll get four or five miles a gallon better.
joe rogan
Yeah, I get that, but still.
matt farah
I think they really wanted to hit that 30 miles a gallon number in Carrera.
joe rogan
Maybe they should have a button overdrive.
matt farah
Like old school, like one of those foot buttons?
joe rogan
Just a little button on the side that's like a road.
matt farah
Did your Cuda have one of those?
Yes.
joe rogan
Every year had an overdrive.
That was another thing I didn't want in that car.
I didn't want it to be an automatic.
And they were like, it has to be an automatic.
unidentified
I'm like...
matt farah
You're like, why?
joe rogan
You're going to have a 1970 Barracuda in an automatic.
alex ross
What color was that car?
joe rogan
Silver.
That was another thing they argued with me about.
They wanted to paint it up like a Spanish hooker.
I had to argue with them.
They wanted to put three different colors on it.
I was like, wait a minute, what do you want?
alex ross
And then ghosted angels and flames and stuff.
joe rogan
No, it was going to be silver on the bottom, and then it was going to be black, and then it was going to be red.
Silver, red, and then black, black on the hood, like the old AR hoods.
Because Chip Foose has this idea of these designs, and he gets them in his head, and then that's what he wants to do.
But then I saw it stripped down when they were sanding the body down.
It was all silver.
And I was like, oh, that has to be all silver.
I'm like, I've never seen a silver barracuda.
I want to see a silver barracuda.
And I was like, let's do it on silver.
And oh my god, I had to fucking duke it out with those guys.
You're making a mistake.
I'm like, how am I making a mistake?
matt farah
Did you pay for that?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
matt farah
Then the answer is, fuck you, it's my money.
joe rogan
It's a lot of money, man, and it wasn't worth it.
In the long run, it was a car that was fun to look at.
And interesting, and they did a great job building it, don't get me wrong, but...
alex ross
How long did it take?
joe rogan
It's just a giant headache.
It was a lowered car, so the back wheel well was tubbed, and it was like four inches off the ground, so it was bottoming out everywhere.
It's a beautiful-looking thing.
matt farah
That is a very pretty car.
joe rogan
Very pretty.
This is when I decided to get rid of it.
I was on the highway.
I was coming home, and I was going about normal speed, highway speed, 60, 70 miles an hour, and I got off the highway.
15 minutes later, I'm at my house, and I pull into my driveway, and the car leans over to the right, and the suspension had fallen off.
No, the suspension had fallen off of the frame in my driveway.
I was just on the highway 15 minutes ago, going 70 miles an hour.
So I said, We're done here.
I said, that's it.
So I called up Steve Stroop.
You know Steve Stroop?
Pure Vision.
Great guy.
Makes awesome cars.
Had him totally fix everything to the T. Make sure everything's in order.
Because maybe I'll drive it again.
Maybe I won't.
And then I let it sit around for a year.
And then I just got rid of it.
I just didn't drive it again after that.
I was like, I don't trust it.
I don't want to trust it.
alex ross
Once you lose trust in a car and stuff, like with your 996 Turbo, if you lose trust, just let it go, man.
Lemon it.
joe rogan
It also wasn't the car for me, because I'm not a show car guy.
I wanted a car that I could drive places.
I could shut it off and leave it there and then drive it again.
matt farah
No, that thing you've got to be worried about all the time.
joe rogan
It was a disaster.
alex ross
I totally approve of your curves and the roads that you go on.
I like that.
That's our style up there in NorCal.
That's what we like, too.
joe rogan
Well, I got rid of that, and then I got a GT3 with the money.
That's what I did.
And then I was like, oh, it's so much better.
matt farah
You're like, oh, this thing works.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so much better, you know?
matt farah
I have to drive a lot of this home-built shit, you know what I mean?
Literally, I drove a car a couple weeks ago that was seriously built by a fucking redneck by himself over the course of six years.
It was a 1975 Toyota Corolla.
charged v8 in it oh my god you know it worked out like the car worked actually it was kind of you know impressive because the guy literally built it in his own little fucking universe and he had nothing to compare it to he's never driven another real sports car and i mean it's amazing the fucking wheel didn't fall off the thing yeah you're alive i know but that's like every week for me it's like some new crazy sketchy thing that's never been tested yeah this From our side, there's a lot of pressure.
alex ross
Like you said, on Top Gear, that Dutch car manufacturer, whatever the hell, Zenvo.
matt farah
Oh, they're Danish.
alex ross
Sorry, Danish.
Yeah, right.
With all the coverage and press we get, we better make sure the car is dialed like we tested before.
matt farah
Yeah, yeah.
Car's going to work, man.
alex ross
Because I know that shit blows up live.
That's not going to be cool.
Orlando driving it, it blows up.
joe rogan
I just found out that XV Motorsports, they stopped making those dope challengers.
Those crazy challengers.
matt farah
They were charging $200,000 for something that wasn't worth $200,000, but...
joe rogan
What's it worth?
What's this?
What's that?
What's a fucking 72R-esque worth a million six?
What are these things worth these days?
What is worth what?
alex ross
1.4 million is what I sold for, yeah.
joe rogan
If you could have a real 1970 Challenger and it actually handles well and breaks well, it might be worth $200,000.
alex ross
I'd have a Superbird.
unidentified
Maybe.
alex ross
I love those.
joe rogan
But that's what I wanted.
That's what I wanted when I got that Barracuda.
matt farah
I wanted a car like that.
What you ended up with was a show car.
joe rogan
Yeah, a show car that was just a little prissy little bitch that would whine and complain and...
Fucking shit out on me everywhere and left me stranded all these places.
alex ross
Yeah, I nearly killed you.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did.
But I made sure that I did my due diligence and fixed it before I got rid of it.
That's very nice.
You didn't want it to happen to you.
matt farah
I didn't want anybody to get sued.
joe rogan
Fucking sued.
You imagine you sell a car and you find out a dude racks it into a tree and it's brain dead now.
Fuck that.
matt farah
I sold the car to a guy who told it the very next day.
unidentified
Whoa.
matt farah
Yeah.
I got cash.
unidentified
Huh.
matt farah
I took his cash and bought a new fucking car and said, have a nice day, sir.
Here's the spare key.
Would you like it?
joe rogan
What kind of car was it?
matt farah
It was a Mustang.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Was it a crazy car?
matt farah
It was crazy for the time.
It was in 94 and I had a stroker motor in it.
And I mean, it was...
400 horsepower in 1997 was a lot.
joe rogan
Isn't it amazing?
alex ross
That's what we're saying.
joe rogan
400 horsepower used to be insanity.
Now it's nothing.
matt farah
My Corvette, when I built it in 2005, 500 horsepower was like, holy shit!
joe rogan
Well, this 1M that you were talking about, how much does that thing weigh?
matt farah
3,500 pounds?
joe rogan
Fairly light.
It's about 500 pounds less than the M4, right?
The new M4 is closing in on 4 grand.
matt farah
Is it that much?
joe rogan
It's heavy.
Yeah, there was a big article there.
matt farah
Oh, it's the sedan.
Yeah, it probably is.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
The M4 is the coupe.
matt farah
Who can keep this shit straight?
BMW fucked up.
alex ross
You know, the other thing, too, is remember your 996 Turbo, right?
So I was telling you my buddies in Arizona that worked with us on all this stuff.
Um, they have a, you know, 1600 horsepower 997 turbo, which is essentially the same engine, right?
It has a parachute on the back.
joe rogan
It's essentially a time machine.
alex ross
Yeah, he drove it.
It's just crazy, right?
So, in that same car.
I mean, they drive those things so fast at those mile events that, you know, when they get to like 230, 240 miles an hour, the roof caves in.
matt farah
Yeah.
alex ross
You know, the sunroof just, it just implodes.
matt farah
When I drove it, I hit like, I hit I think 175 or 180 and the windows started peeling out away from the door frames.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
alex ross
Yeah, when you see like a red 997 turbo.
matt farah
It's like on driving.
You can't drive.
You know, you could show up somewhere now at an event with a car that's a thousand horsepower.
alex ross
Yeah.
matt farah
And any normal person, if anyone is still listening to this that cares about a thousand horsepower, it's amazing.
You know, and be like, pfft, well I've got 1500 horsepower.
Like, the internet has fucked it up.
Completely fucked it up.
joe rogan
How has the internet fucked it up?
matt farah
Because the internet, you can just Google and get into that, you know, you can see some fucking psycho in Dubai who's got some Supra with 1500 horsepower, and all of a sudden that has resets your barometer for normal.
Normal is the big numbers you see on the internet now.
Most of these people, if they rode in a 500hp car, would shit their pants.
But they see on the internet some psycho with a dyno car, you know, that's putting down 1,500 and they go, If yours doesn't make $1,500, it ain't shit.
joe rogan
Isn't that interesting when it comes to a lot of fans of cars that can't afford those cars?
That it gets to...
alex ross
Haterade, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it also gets to that weird thing like you're shitting on a car that you can't afford.
You don't even know what the fuck it would be like to drive the bronze medalist to this three.
You're dealing with an insane demon of a car.
You're talking about, like, the Evo top ten, when they do the top ten of the best supercars of the year, or the best sports cars, whatever, performance cars is their category.
matt farah
The shittiest one is still pretty fucking good.
joe rogan
These are demonic vehicles.
You're dealing with things that defy logic.
matt farah
There's people that argue with us and we'll go film a car on the press launch.
The car won't be in showrooms for six months.
And we'll go film this car months before it comes out.
And people will argue about how good or bad it is.
Literally, there's no possible way that they actually have this information.
It's not possible.
joe rogan
The transmission has issues.
I've heard from the guys that work at the factory.
matt farah
You don't know fucking shit.
joe rogan
I know an insider.
matt farah
We don't even know shit if we just drove it.
alex ross
A lot of people that haven't driven a Carrera GT before have all these opinions about it being super dangerous.
And it's like, no, it's not.
It's how you drive it and also what tires you have.
I mean...
matt farah
It's known for being a little hairy.
That's part of its appeal.
It's part of the appeal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you guys were enlightening me about the Paul Walker car that killed him and his friend, that they were nine-year-old tires.
matt farah
Yeah.
So what happens when you have a collector car like that, a car that is a top-tier...
You'll see a lot of these Ferrarianzos, these top-tier collector cars where people will buy them and not put many miles on them.
So Roger, who was driving the car when Roger and Paul died...
Bought this car for his collection.
He has a huge collection of cars.
Bought this car for his collection.
It had been sitting there.
He was going to put tires on it.
But Paul was like, oh, let me just go for a ride around the block.
And they just went for a ride around the block.
But because rubber in tires, whether you drive on them or not, will become very hard over time.
So it might look like a nice tire with tread.
It looks more or less like a brand new tire.
But that rubber has been slowly hardening and it...
And a tire's contact patch with the ground is partially about the tread pattern, but more importantly, it's a chemical bond with tarmac.
And so, as the tire ages, that becomes much less effective, you lose traction.
alex ross
And also, like, tires from the 2004 era, you know, they weren't as good as they are now.
The Michelins that they would have put on now are way, way grippier, stickier.
joe rogan
Yeah, cup tires, these GT3 cup tires that are in the RSs.
They're great.
They're insane.
Once they get hot, they're sticky.
And that's the other thing that folks need to understand if you're driving a car.
alex ross
Don't skimp on tires, ever.
joe rogan
Well, also, you can't just drive it fast right away.
You can't just take your car, start it out of your driveway, go right to the racetrack, and just fucking...
You're laughing.
But see, a lot of people would go, what's so funny?
matt farah
Yeah.
The closer to a racing tire it is, the more heat you got to get.
alex ross
So what do you do if you go to, if you're a guy and it's your first day on a track, and see if you got a GT3? Ever see a Formula One race, that lap right before they start?
What they do is, they're going about 10 miles an hour, 10 to 20 miles an hour, and they're going left and right, left and right.
And they're just heating up the tires.
They're just heating up the tires, yeah.
unidentified
Ah.
joe rogan
Ah, that's smart.
alex ross
And that's what you do.
You don't have to do that, because then you look like you're a FOSS driver, and that's kind of stupid.
joe rogan
Why can't they put magnets all around the tires, all around the cars itself, all around the bumpers, and put magnets on all the other cars, too?
That way, when they get near each other, they never actually touch.
alex ross
Yeah, that'd be nice.
joe rogan
They just...
Super powered magnets.
matt farah
Like bumper bowling, but on a racetrack.
joe rogan
And have the magnets powered by the same electrical engine that does like the 918s.
alex ross
Well, you know, like when you were driving on your road today, for example, right?
You kind of eased into it.
You didn't go like balls out.
Well, you didn't go balls out anyway, but you know what I mean.
You went a steady pace, and then you kind of went faster and faster, right?
You let some heat in the tires.
You let things get settled.
You don't just go like 10 tenths.
Those are always the guys that crash on the first corner of a track on their first day.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I'm not a great driver, but I know how to drive a car.
And the good thing is that I grew up in Boston, so I drove on snowy weather all the time.
matt farah
Boston has the shittiest roads, man.
They're rough.
joe rogan
The shittiest roads, and I was a newspaper delivery guy for like five years.
So I drove 365 days a year.
I drove every fucking day.
matt farah
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Snowing, raining, didn't matter.
matt farah
Same loop, over and over?
joe rogan
Over and over and over, yeah.
alex ross
Car control.
joe rogan
Up the hills and down, sliding into intersections.
unidentified
Woo!
matt farah
Did you do the over-the-roof toss?
joe rogan
Yep, I did over-the-roof toss.
alex ross
Did you break any windows?
joe rogan
I broke everything.
I would roll down the pasture window.
I could huck it that way.
I was good with that.
I would occasionally go with the loop, the skyhook.
But left-handed, man.
If I could drive down the street, it was early in the morning, and I knew no cars were coming in the other direction, I would just go in the left lane and just fucking whip them left, right.
I have a good route.
As long as they're in plastic, they're going to be fine.
alex ross
You fold them up real quick, toss them.
Would you drive vans?
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt farah
You had to bag and then toss?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What you do is you hang the plastic bags from your rearview mirror.
So you got a rearview mirror.
You tie the plastic bags off.
It's on like this cardboard strip.
And there's like a sheet of plastic bags.
Like there might be like 50 or 100 bags, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so then the newspapers are stacked up on your passenger seat.
And as you're driving, you got to learn how to steer with your knees because you're going real slow.
You take the newspaper.
You grab it.
Fump, fump.
That's the fold.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
One left, one right, back.
Bam!
I got it.
Now it's like a third of a newspaper.
Stuff it in that bag.
unidentified
Shroom!
joe rogan
Out the window.
And I'm telling you, I'm like, boom, boom, whap, boom.
matt farah
Look at this muscle memory.
The muscle memory is still going right now.
joe rogan
And I'd get pissed if I was fucking around with this.
Oh, you bitch.
And then I had to hit the brakes and...
alex ross
And you didn't have our compound tires on that bad boy, did you?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
After a while, I invested in a gigantic cargo van with no windows.
It was like one of those free candy vans.
alex ross
Oh, a rape van, huh?
joe rogan
Because I could pack that bitch with newspapers.
I got this van for like 500 bucks.
matt farah
You never had to go re-up.
joe rogan
Dude, I could get a thousand newspapers on Sunday in this van.
It was a good Sunday.
Sometimes, you know...
It wouldn't really be a thousand.
I think the most I had was 450 clients.
That was the most I ever had.
It would take hours, but it was too much.
Because I was doing the Boston Herald, the Boston Globe, and the New York Times.
I had three routes at the same time.
Yeah.
matt farah
Damn, that's awesome.
joe rogan
So, I was driving in the fucking snow daily, son.
matt farah
And you said it was hard for me to drive with a camera right in front of my face.
Holding newspapers while driving with your knees sounds just as hard.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's no one on the road.
matt farah
Especially as high as you probably were.
joe rogan
No, no, no, I was sober.
And there was no one on the road.
It was 5 o'clock in the morning.
alex ross
No more than a foot away from the car in front.
That was pretty skillful, dude.
joe rogan
Dude, you were driving.
unidentified
You were.
joe rogan
It was very impressive.
alex ross
Very good.
craig jones
In the rain, a foot away from a fucking van in front of you.
matt farah
I had Joe come with me in the car.
I was like, yo, come check out what we do.
And I'm driving his car, him in the passenger seat, Zach is driving my van, and we're fucking, you know, that's what we do, is I have to tailgate the van.
joe rogan
It's ridiculous how close he gets.
I mean, I know you're really good at driving.
alex ross
I was with him.
No, that's good.
joe rogan
Whoa.
It's nerve-wracking.
I mean, I know you guys have it down to a science.
You know what the fuck you're doing when you're filming this.
unidentified
We do, yeah.
matt farah
We bug people out whenever they see us do it.
They're like, wait a minute.
The videos don't look nearly this sketchy.
You should have seen we did one at night, and we had the van with lights, suction cup to the back of the van, a Running gas generator in the back of the van, while doing that, and I'm driving an Aston...
joe rogan
A running gas generator in the van while you're driving?
matt farah
In the van.
joe rogan
And it's like on fire?
matt farah
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That is crazy!
matt farah
And then I'm driving behind the van, directly into these 400 watt lights in an Aston Martin a foot off the bumper at fucking night.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that is ridiculous.
matt farah
It's really sketchy.
No permits for this?
No insurance?
unidentified
Shhh!
joe rogan
Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.
matt farah
Allegedly no permits.
joe rogan
Allegedly we're testing equipment.
matt farah
You see you're learning.
joe rogan
We just happen to have cameras on while we're testing said equipment.
We have to have proof of our testing in order to get paid.
matt farah
We happen to have $400,000 in Porsches and a TV celebrity.
unidentified
We're just testing equipment.
joe rogan
Just screaming.
This car that he's got, this 4.1 liter, 560 horsepower, is that what it is?
alex ross
540, but...
joe rogan
540, whatever the fuck it is.
alex ross
It's a lot.
joe rogan
It's a screaming monster.
And you hear it literally three quarters of a mile away.
matt farah
It's really far.
joe rogan
Three quarters of a mile away.
Alex and I were waiting while you were going on your first wild ride.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
And we were like, you hear it?
You hear it?
And you were nowhere near us!
unidentified
Yeah!
matt farah
Wow, that's really good.
joe rogan
That's a great GT3. It was so loud, dude.
alex ross
That really is.
joe rogan
It was rounding corners and shit.
alex ross
I've got a GT3 voice now.
matt farah
That was really good.
joe rogan
That was a dope fucking car, man.
matt farah
Do you make that noise while you're driving your own car?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
matt farah
In the shower, you're fucking shifting and shit?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like singing along.
It's like karaoke.
matt farah
Do it again.
Can I get a full lap of Nürburgring right now?
unidentified
That's fucking good.
alex ross
That's good, man.
joe rogan
All the skills that you could acquire in this life.
Making noises that sound like cars.
It's fucking the top of the list.
A lot of time I spent, I worked hard.
It's like video game skills.
It's like being good at EverQuest.
It doesn't really...
matt farah
There's the guy who does the car noises in the soda can.
Have you seen that one?
joe rogan
In a soda can?
matt farah
Yeah, the guy who makes Lamborghini noises in the soda can.
It's fairly awesome.
joe rogan
That actually makes sense.
matt farah
Yeah.
It's tinny.
Are you doing it?
That sounds more like a viper.
alex ross
No, that's more like a viper.
That's a viper, dude.
joe rogan
There's too much coffee in here.
I'm getting crazy.
alex ross
That's a viper.
joe rogan
Here's the only good song.
The only good sound that I do that really sounds real is a dog.
And one time we were on Fear Factor and a bunch of people were waiting to do this stunt.
And they were blindfolded.
They'd move them in in blindfolds because they had to get their camera position set up.
So they had no idea what the stunt would be.
So as these people were moving in, I'm going...
And they're sitting there going, oh Jesus Christ.
unidentified
And they're like, moving really slow.
matt farah
Wow, that's fucking creepy.
That is creepy.
Have you seen Total Blackout?
joe rogan
What is that?
matt farah
Jaleel White's show?
joe rogan
Jaleel White?
matt farah
Urkel?
alex ross
No.
matt farah
He got a show.
joe rogan
What kind of show?
matt farah
So it's called Total Blackout.
So they got people to come in and they make them go in pitch black rooms and do shit with their hands.
So they have to guess what they're touching in pitch black rooms.
Some of it will be fucking spiders and bullshit, you know what I mean?
They'll have to rub a sweaty fat man, you know what I mean?
Generally, people freak out over some dumb shit, so that just kind of fucking got me on that.
I don't know why.
There's no point to it, actually.
joe rogan
But it's Urkel from that show?
matt farah
He's the fucking host.
joe rogan
Isn't he a big giant dude now?
matt farah
No.
joe rogan
Isn't he?
matt farah
Oh, the other guy.
joe rogan
Urkel's brother.
matt farah
Oh, Eddie Wynne?
No, that's Eddie Wynne.
joe rogan
Who was Urkel's brother?
matt farah
He didn't have a brother.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had a brother, didn't he?
Didn't Urkel have a brother?
No.
matt farah
There was a family...
What?
No.
No, I don't think he had a brother.
joe rogan
Didn't have a fucking brother?
matt farah
He was like the lone neighbor.
joe rogan
Ah, shit.
I'm so bad on my old school 1990 sitcoms that I never watched.
matt farah
But people lose their fucking mind when they can't see shit.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
matt farah
Which I'm sure you're well aware of.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Well I'm a big fan of the sensory deprivation tank.
I'm always getting one of those things.
alex ross
Well the show that you were doing too.
unidentified
Did you watch your house?
alex ross
The X Factor stuff.
joe rogan
Fear Factor, son.
Ketchup.
alex ross
Yeah, there's one in Venice.
No, I meant Fear Factor.
matt farah
What do they charge for that?
joe rogan
40 bucks.
matt farah
For an hour?
joe rogan
For an hour and a half, I think.
alex ross
So the British version, Hammond was doing it.
joe rogan
Fear Factor?
alex ross
Yeah, I just thought that was cool.
unidentified
No kidding!
alex ross
He has a GT3, so it's GT3 guys.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
So he started doing it after I started doing the US version?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was a bunch of different hosts of Fear Factor all over the world.
alex ross
How weird.
Yeah, but that's not crazy.
He had a GT3 RS. You have a GT3 RS? Crazy, man!
joe rogan
We're both short.
unidentified
This is fucking nutty.
joe rogan
The coincidences go on and on.
We're both mildly amusing.
This is insane.
matt farah
You gotta hook up that tank.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you should definitely...
You would love it.
It's very relaxing, too.
matt farah
I did one, like, ten years ago, and I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
joe rogan
Why didn't you do it again?
matt farah
Because I don't live in the state in which I did it.
joe rogan
Ah, right.
matt farah
You did it in New York?
Yeah, I haven't gotten around to checking it out again.
joe rogan
They're opening up now.
It's become a popular thing again.
matt farah
Is it?
joe rogan
Yeah, all over the country.
matt farah
What are the preferred drugs for sensory deprivation?
joe rogan
Marijuana is the number one.
Marijuana is your friend.
Especially edible.
matt farah
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, you go the edible route.
Get to the point where you think you're probably going to be the first guy to die of an overdose and then get a...
Just get right on heaven's door.
You want to get right like your fucking Eric Clapton song.
Knock, knock, knock it on heaven's door.
matt farah
Do one of those 180 milligram Chibichus right to the face.
joe rogan
God damn it!
Those chibachews, as you're eating them, you start hallucinating as you're chewing.
You start seeing vapor trails near your lips as you're chewing.
matt farah
You don't want to eat too much chibachew.
It's so easy.
It's just one centimeter.
joe rogan
I was on a plane with Joey Diaz, okay?
And Joey Diaz had already eaten one.
A full one.
And I go, how much did I have?
He goes, don't even eat more than a half.
And then he takes one, a full one, and puts it in his mouth.
I go, you had one earlier?
unidentified
He goes, this is my third one.
joe rogan
He goes, we're on a fucking six-hour flight.
Uncle Joey's going deep.
He told me, don't even eat a half, and he ate three of them.
matt farah
Was he fucked?
joe rogan
Oh, he didn't say nothing, but then we landed.
He goes, I almost had a fucking panic attack.
I almost opened that door and jumped out.
I almost was going to tell the lady as the plane was taking off.
I'm not going to fucking do it.
I'm not doing this.
That happened with Ari Shafir once.
I gave him a breast strip and while we were waiting to take off, he starts clinching to the seat.
I go, what?
He goes, nothing.
And then when we landed, he goes, I was going to get up and I was going to tell him to stop the plane.
No, you weren't.
He goes, yes, I was going to tell him to stop the play.
He got so high, he was going to tell him to stop the play.
unidentified
We had a friend in town, and there was a little miscommunication.
matt farah
We gave him a couple edibles, and we didn't make it very, very clear that you only eat one at a time.
So those three cookies he ate at once, right before having an epic meltdown and puking on his fucking flight.
joe rogan
That's good.
You can really hurt yourself.
You can really pull something.
I don't do...
matt farah
50 milligrams is my maximum.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt farah
And that's high.
joe rogan
50 milligrams is very high.
matt farah
50 is a biggie dose.
They sell the gold caps in 50s now, and it's like, whoa.
joe rogan
Well, those candies?
You ate a candy, right?
The candies, those are a good dose, because the Jolly Ranchers, they're like, one of them is like, you know, a nice, mellow, not too fucked up.
You can kind of get through it, and two of them, ooh, you're going to feel tingles.
Two of them, you're going to be like, I might have just fucked up.
unidentified
Maybe I should've taken that second one.
joe rogan
But if you really want to go crazy...
matt farah
The Chibichus are the really, really gnarly ones.
joe rogan
I was gonna say, the Chibichus is probably like five of those.
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, that's how strong a Chibichu is.
It's like five of those.
matt farah
When I first saw that and it said 180 milligrams, I was like, there's no way that they could sell this to somebody.
joe rogan
Don't give a fuck.
They know that there's a market.
They know there's a market out there.
matt farah
Well, we have...
I mean, have you come across dabs yet?
Dabs are like...
joe rogan
I don't fuck around with that stuff, dude.
matt farah
It's too much.
joe rogan
Everybody's going too deep.
You're going too deep and you don't even know what's down there.
You know?
You're going to the Marianas Trench and fucking Godzilla's taking a shit.
unidentified
I don't know.
matt farah
James Cameron's not doing dabs, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's not.
Could you imagine being high as fuck at the bottom of the ocean and also being a billionaire at the same time being like, what am I doing down here?
I have so much money.
I could have just sent a fucking camera down here and got the exact same thing.
You know how crazy James Cameron is?
Think about how crazy he is.
He's got at least a billion dollars, probably more.
matt farah
At least.
joe rogan
And he's built a fucking submarine to go to the lowest point and become the first guy to do it.
matt farah
I read the best quote from James.
In the month of this searching for the plane, the Malaysia plane, they're looking for it.
So someone asked James Cameron, What do you think?
You're into this shit.
How do we find the fucking plane?
And he's talking about...
He actually was on Reddit and he actually did a very thorough explanation of how one would go about searching for the plane.
And he actually was like, you don't need my submarine because my submarine is too...
Too much for this mission.
You'd back it off one and use a slightly worse sub than James Cameron has in order to find the missing plane which hasn't been found yet.
joe rogan
But isn't it impossible to find something in the ocean?
The plane is just the size of a plane.
alex ross
Dude, there are sharks that just got discovered in the last few years.
You know what I mean?
matt farah
That shit's gone.
joe rogan
I mean, how could you find it?
You have to be really lucky.
alex ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
matt farah
They found the fucking Titanic.
alex ross
Yeah, but it looked like a long time.
unidentified
That's true.
alex ross
A long, long time.
matt farah
It only took them like 80 years.
70...
74 years.
Bob Ballard, 1986, I believe.
joe rogan
Was it really?
alex ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is a crazy...
But they knew the exact path of the Titanic.
unidentified
That's true.
matt farah
That's true.
That's a good point.
alex ross
They made movies about raising the Titanic before they found it.
Remember that?
Oh, remember the raising the Titanic movie?
matt farah
They tied a bunch of fucking lift bags to it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Thought that would work.
alex ross
Airbags, yeah.
It did.
It did work.
joe rogan
They got raised.
And then there was a Soviet nuclear bomb.
There's this podcast that I listen to all the time.
It's called Radiolab.
And it's a great podcast.
Radiolab from NYC. WNYC. And they had this episode on a Glomar response.
And a Glomar response is, I can neither confirm nor deny.
You know, everybody uses that all the time.
It came from Global Marine.
And Global Marine was a company that was hired...
To try to retrieve a sunken Russian submarine.
And this was right after Watergate.
This was in the 1970s.
So because everybody was really sensitive about lies, the Freedom of Information Act had come about, and they'd gotten to the point where they were forced to talk and discuss about what they were doing out there in the ocean.
Were you actually trying to retrieve a Russian submarine?
Did you retrieve a Russian submarine?
And they said, we can neither confirm nor deny.
And that had become, because of that Glomar response, that's like a standard phrase now.
So they had to try to figure out, they were forced by law to respond and to give information.
So that was the information they get, that they can neither confirm nor deny.
matt farah
Did they find it?
What do you think?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, they found it, for sure.
Not only did they find it, they almost pulled it up.
They attached this giant claw to a huge ship, and they were trying to pick this thing up in the ocean.
matt farah
Like the fucking thing that gets toys?
Yes, exactly!
joe rogan
And it worked just as well.
alex ross
That thing never works.
joe rogan
It got halfway up and then it broke off.
matt farah
I almost got an iPod Nano!
unidentified
Fuck!
alex ross
No, it's more like a fluffy little bunny or something.
joe rogan
It was miles deep.
Miles deep in the ocean.
And they got a hold of it and they got it on film.
And they were watching it as they were bringing it up.
But the feedback, the loop, from watching it was delayed.
So they felt this thump.
And then they looked at the film, and the film showed that the boat was still there.
So then they refreshed the feed, and the boat was gone.
unidentified
They're like, fuck.
matt farah
They dropped it, basically.
joe rogan
Dropped it back to the bottom of the ocean.
matt farah
Just crushed the shit.
joe rogan
Well, it's millions and millions and millions of pounds.
And they're clawing it with a fucking little carny cloth.
matt farah
You've got to love that optimism, though.
They really thought they probably got it.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, they came close.
They did lift it up off the ground and got it a mile up.
Oh, really?
They brought it pretty fucking far up before it broke off.
matt farah
I wish there was a live video of it just breaking free.
alex ross
Shit!
joe rogan
Millions and millions and millions of dollars.
But apparently, eventually, they got it.
unidentified
I don't know.
alex ross
I think Ballard had to do the same thing.
He had to find a whole bunch of submarines and do this stuff for the government, and this Titanic thing was a side thing.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how it was.
matt farah
It's part of the skim.
joe rogan
Well, isn't it fun when they find these sunken boats from the Roman era?
alex ross
Oh, yeah.
matt farah
The galleons and stuff full of gold.
Someone just found ten million dollars in gold in their backyard.
In their backyard.
joe rogan
In California.
They found gold coins.
It's someone in the fucking 1800s buried in their backyard.
Crazy.
alex ross
Did he have to give it back?
joe rogan
No, it's theirs!
matt farah
But I did read they had to pay taxes on it.
joe rogan
Oh god, the government's a cunt.
You didn't find shit, you fuckhead.
It's gold.
How can you pay taxes on gold?
unidentified
Because they probably figured out some paperwork where it was owed in 1800, right?
matt farah
Maybe it was something that said that if they sold it.
joe rogan
Maybe.
alex ross
Yeah, they paid taxes.
joe rogan
Man, that should be how you're freeing away from taxes because taxes is only about money.
matt farah
I may have misconstrued the story.
Some analysts said if they ever sold it, they would have to pay taxes or blah, blah, blah.
joe rogan
Because I would think that...
Originally, money was supposed to be gold notes, right?
It was like, this $100 is worth $100 in gold.
If you already have the $100 in gold, you don't need the money.
unidentified
Fuck the money.
joe rogan
So if you don't need the money...
What am I paying taxes on again?
What the fuck's going on here, man?
matt farah
They just chisel a corner of it off.
joe rogan
Here you go.
Here's a little piece for you.
Yeah.
I think in the future, gold, the idea of a resource-based economy, whether it's gold or diamonds or have it be worth that, that's a way better idea.
alex ross
Yeah, than paper.
joe rogan
Credit cards and money.
The system that we have now, the idea of the system that we have now, a piece of paper represents a hundred bucks, and what the hundred bucks gets you fluctuates depending on how the fucking economy's doing.
matt farah
Bitcoins, man.
Buy bitcoins.
joe rogan
I have some bitcoins.
matt farah
Do you?
joe rogan
Yeah, but I didn't buy them.
So I'm giving them away.
I did a thing.
I had this guy on...
matt farah
I listened to your Bitcoin podcast.
It was super interesting, actually.
joe rogan
Well, you know, I think it's possible.
It's very possible that that could be a currency in the future.
matt farah
It was right.
I listened to that podcast immediately before that Mt.
Gox thing took fucking everyone's money down with me.
I was like, oh shit!
joe rogan
That was hilarious.
That Mt.
Gox thing just shows you how nutty the internet is.
matt farah
I laughed, because everyone said I should buy bitcoins instead of cars, and I said, fuck you, I can still drive my cars, where's your bitcoins?
joe rogan
Well, the bitcoins are still good if they weren't in Mt.
unidentified
Gox.
joe rogan
The Mt.
Gox thing was a crazy thing, because it was the Magic the Gathering exchange.
That's what it was.
matt farah
Fuck off, is that what that is?
joe rogan
Yes, it was.
Magic the Gathering exchange was with the originator of Mt.
unidentified
Gox.
matt farah
That's funny.
joe rogan
And what they originally were supposed to be doing was exchanging things from the fucking game.
And then along the way, they start...
Come on.
Yes, look up the story.
Fascinating shit.
matt farah
That's crazy.
joe rogan
And along the way, they started...
Dealing digital currency.
And when they started doing it, they didn't have any of the security in place.
They weren't set up for it, and they've lost something like $350 million worth of Bitcoin.
matt farah
So they started by trading mana?
Is that what you're saying?
joe rogan
I don't know how that stuff works, but that's what it came...
Mt.
Gox is short for Magic the Gathering Exchange.
matt farah
How nerdy is it that I know what the currency is in Magic the Gathering?
joe rogan
You did know, and I didn't even know what you were talking about.
What is it?
matt farah
Manna is the currency in Magic the Gathering.
joe rogan
Erase that from your head.
matt farah
Yes, I am that fucking horrible.
unidentified
Come on, man.
joe rogan
You can get that shit out of your head.
matt farah
Yo, red deck, son.
joe rogan
Alright, if you had to recommend a convertible sports car in today's climate, what's the car?
unidentified
Uh...
joe rogan
You got a hundred grand below.
matt farah
A hundred?
Ooh, a hundred?
joe rogan
Two hundred.
unidentified
Oh.
alex ross
200, okay.
joe rogan
No, no, alright.
matt farah
Joe's like, how much money do I have to spend right now?
Alright.
Well, for you?
joe rogan
No, for anybody.
What I'm saying is...
In the old days, okay, when you looked at a guy driving a sports car, you look at a gentleman, he had a scarf on, it's blowing in the breeze, and he's got fucking pilot's goggles on.
matt farah
Wayfarers and a fucking cigar.
joe rogan
There was always no roof, you know?
It was like the roofless option was the sporty option.
But somewhere along the line, we found that to be folly.
matt farah
Well, the chassis rigidity came into play, you know?
Because your GT500 was a convertible.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt farah
And you did not like the chassis, though.
joe rogan
I did not like the chassis.
What I did like was how stupid that car was.
It was America, fuck yeah, in a car.
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
550 horsepower.
matt farah
By being a convertible, it had kind of a shitty chassis.
It's sloppy.
The coups are somewhere along the way...
People started saying, if you want to really get the performance out of it, it has to be a coupe.
alex ross
Well, sometimes they actually make cars that were meant to be convertibles from the get-go, like the MP12C in a way.
matt farah
Yeah, and the Nissan 370Z as well was designed to be a roadster first.
joe rogan
Yeah, the MP12CZ fucking, how much does that bitch cost?
alex ross
So used, they're about...
Did you want to take a leak?
No, no.
Used, they're 170. Sweating it up.
joe rogan
It's hot in here, I think.
170. Those things cost $170,000?
matt farah
Used.
joe rogan
And the top pops down and goes to the back in some way?
Or is that a spider version?
matt farah
It's a spider.
It does, yeah.
It's like $250,000, $260,000.
joe rogan
$250,000.
It's a goddamn house in New Orleans.
matt farah
Yeah.
Or three in Detroit.
joe rogan
In America, it's not even a parking spot.
matt farah
No, if you want a convertible for $100,000, you want a Jaguar F-Type.
joe rogan
That new Jaguar.
I was going to ask you about that.
Is that a cool car?
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
It looks pretty wild.
matt farah
Yeah, it's cool.
Dynamically, not quite as good as the 911, but so fucking cool.
joe rogan
Not quite as good, but pretty goddamn good.
matt farah
But so cool.
As a cruiser...
As a go fast and have fun, but I don't care about a lap time cruiser.
It makes a great sound.
It's fucking loud and obnoxious.
joe rogan
It's a beautiful looking car too.
I saw one at the mall the other day.
alex ross
I was like, holy shit.
joe rogan
But you shit on Jags because you shit on British cars.
alex ross
I tried to do it.
I had an XKR convertible in 1999. It was a supercharged version, the R version.
joe rogan
That was a cool looking car.
alex ross
It was a cool design.
I thought it looked actually better than the Aston Martin, which was a DB7. And it, you know, it was faster, but it was just really floppy.
I mean, I was going to kill myself driving at a track or in canyons in that car, because the suspension, it was just all floppy.
joe rogan
You've driven fucking every car there is, and for you to say that his cars are the best cars you've ever driven.
matt farah
They're really, well, when I drove a stock GT3 RS at the time, I was like, this is the best car I've ever driven.
joe rogan
Right.
matt farah
His cars are just better than that.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
matt farah
It's that turned the 12th.
joe rogan
What about the Ferrari 458?
matt farah
They're very nice.
They are very nice.
The Porsche GG3 RS is everything that you want about driving a race car, but it doesn't beat you up for making that decision.
A lot of other cars, I just drove the Mercedes SLS Black Series, which is the racetrack version of their going SLS. All the trade-off you get for the racetrack performance makes it worse to drive on the street.
The throttle's touchy, it's stiff, it's wider and lower and less practical, but the GT3 RS and Alex's cars, they don't kick you in the fucking dick because you decided you wanted to drive a race car.
joe rogan
Do you like luxury cars at all?
Do you like a Lexus LS? They're alright, yeah.
matt farah
The new Range Rovers?
I love them.
joe rogan
Really?
matt farah
Love them.
joe rogan
Now, aren't Range Rovers kinda shitty cars though?
matt farah
They're not reliable, but when they work, they're amazing.
alex ross
They're good at going off-road.
They're good on farms.
joe rogan
They're really good off-road, right?
matt farah
So comfortable.
joe rogan
How come they're not reliable?
alex ross
Because they're built in England.
joe rogan
That's what it is, right?
matt farah
That is why.
alex ross
We have great ideas.
We have really great ideas.
But our manufacturing, it went down the toilet many years ago.
And we didn't change since the board.
matt farah
Right now is a good time for a Range Rover.
All the money that Ford put into them over the last 10 years is coming out in Jaguar and Land Rover's new cars now.
joe rogan
Ford owns Jaguar and Land Rover?
matt farah
Owned for a while.
Now Tata owns.
alex ross
An Indian company.
unidentified
Oh, Tata.
joe rogan
Who the fuck is Tata?
alex ross
It's an Indian, very rich Indian dude.
And they make these little, like, I don't know what...
matt farah
They make little, like, almost smart car type little cheap cars in India, but they also now own Jaguar and Land Rover.
joe rogan
Whoa.
alex ross
Well, it's better than, like, a Russian kid owning a car company, right?
joe rogan
Is that bad?
alex ross
That wasn't bad.
joe rogan
Who was that?
alex ross
That was, uh, what did they, who did they buy?
matt farah
There was a company in England called TVR. TVR, yeah.
alex ross
So remember that movie with John Travolta?
matt farah
Yeah, the Tuscan?
joe rogan
The one where he got hit by lightning and became super smart?
alex ross
No, not that one.
Why do you remember that one?
matt farah
I remember that one.
alex ross
Why do you remember that one?
joe rogan
I became really good at Portuguese.
matt farah
You learned the Portuguese language in 20 minutes?
unidentified
Yeah.
matt farah
Not all of it.
joe rogan
There's a fucking new one with Scarlett Johansson.
They inject her with some shit, and she learns Chinese in five minutes.
It's the same fucking movie.
She's ripping off John Travolta.
Goddammit, Scarlett, you're better than that.
You're an Avenger.
matt farah
He had his real hair then?
alex ross
Yeah, everyone went nuts for that car, and that was a TVR, because you didn't have it here.
matt farah
It was a company that was sort of on the edge of...
Death, pretty much his whole life, and so some Russian billionaire kid bought it as sort of a toy.
alex ross
There you go.
joe rogan
There's a TVR. Oh, throw that in the garbage.
alex ross
No, but that isn't the one.
matt farah
You like these.
These things are raw and light and stick-shift.
alex ross
They're like an English viper, but just not even built that well.
joe rogan
Do you remember that shitty movie with Charlie Sheen, which is a Porsche thief?
alex ross
Yeah, No Man's Land.
unidentified
I love that movie.
joe rogan
That's like, all the Porsche people love that movie.
matt farah
Or other shitty Charlie Sheen movie, The Chase.
alex ross
That was really bad.
Shitty?
joe rogan
That was Nick Nolte?
Or Nick Cage?
alex ross
Yeah, remember No Man's Land.
Look at No Man's Land, right?
Just watch a scene where there's actually a car chase in it, and you see them speeding away in an 80s 911 turbo or whatever 911 they're stealing.
And then following them is always, you know, this shitty 80s Camaro.
And it cannot go straight or put down any power of any kind.
It's just literally doing this the whole way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt farah
They really, they had Porsche's deal.
Listen, you got to make that chase car a real shitbox.
joe rogan
Well, back in the days, like those 930 turbos that was in that movie, what else could, what could beat them back then?
matt farah
Ferraris, Lambo.
joe rogan
Was it?
matt farah
Yeah.
Lambo's not going on a turn.
joe rogan
959. So you would have to have something like that.
matt farah
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it was pre-959, wasn't it?
alex ross
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
matt farah
Actually, I don't know.
joe rogan
Those 930 turbos, there was nothing around that could fuck with those back then.
Those were 0-60 in 5 seconds in 1979. In first gear.
That's so crazy.
alex ross
My 79, 930, I could get on the freeway and I would start from a stop sign and go on the freeway and I did not change gear.
I could just sit there.
joe rogan
Now, is it possible to do something like that, but make it a car that you could, like, that 9 Meister, 9 RSR, or whatever the fuck they call it, is it possible to make something like that that you could drive like a GT3, like an older 911?
alex ross
No.
joe rogan
Too much work?
matt farah
Too much race?
joe rogan
How does that 9 Meister, how can we do that?
alex ross
Too much Frankenstein.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen that video?
Yeah.
alex ross
Yeah.
matt farah
Well, it's a race car.
Basically a race car.
alex ross
It would have zero compliance.
You'd get beaten up.
matt farah
You could drive it.
joe rogan
You wouldn't like it.
alex ross
That's perfect.
matt farah
That's what I'm looking for.
joe rogan
I'm looking for something that's bolted right to the wheels themselves.
I don't need any suspension.
unidentified
No, you don't need that.
matt farah
That old Porsche that you saw us make the video of, the red one, it's like that.
joe rogan
Is it really?
matt farah
That car beats you up a little bit.
joe rogan
That car was amazing.
matt farah
BBI Autosport.
joe rogan
That thing is insane.
Yeah, it's nutty.
275 horsepower at the wheels, and how much does it weigh?
matt farah
2,500 pounds.
2,200 pounds or something?
It's stupid light.
joe rogan
Nothing in it, right?
matt farah
It's got nothing in it.
joe rogan
No carpet.
No nothing.
But isn't it interesting that there's a bunch of people that are going to that?
Like the actual lead designer of Bugatti has a Porsche that he has.
Kevlar body panels.
He has no stereo.
matt farah
The head of a company that makes the heaviest fucking car, you know, 4,400 pounds is a Veyron.
He chooses to drive something that's like 2,000 pounds.
joe rogan
The most minimalist version of that car, too.
I mean, he has the same thing.
A gutted interior, everything is removed, no AC, no radio, no nothing.
He just has this super light car, and it doesn't even look like a crazy engine.
matt farah
No, it's not even a crazy engine.
It's a fairly basic engine, isn't it?
alex ross
Yeah, for those kind of cars, yeah.
You don't need much.
matt farah
Light goes a long way.
joe rogan
The reason I was getting at this is you were saying while you were driving that BBI car, that after all these years of doing Tuned, where you're driving all these fucking wild, crazy, supercharged, fucking super horsepower, that this is what you were enjoying.
matt farah
Light is really good.
joe rogan
What's good about light?
matt farah
Well, there's like all this crazy power.
It's like you can't use that ever.
You get into it for two seconds and then you have no road left.
alex ross
Right, and then to use it continuously, you have to stop that 5,000 pound brick, you know, repeatedly, and then your brakes are shit, you know, and you're surprised why.
matt farah
You have runways and stuff.
When it gets to the top end of this These people are racing on runways.
That Porsche, the 1600 horsepower?
alex ross
Yeah, the Evo guys, you know, with the parachute on the back, I mean, yeah, they have to go to, like, fully sanctioned runways.
joe rogan
But when you're driving a car like that BBI Porsche, you can use all of it.
matt farah
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah!
matt farah
Because light is good.
You don't need a zillion horsepower.
joe rogan
You didn't enjoy it as much as you enjoyed driving the GT3 RS. Oh, the limits are fucking so high.
matt farah
I'd go to jail in 10 minutes if I had one of those things.
joe rogan
If you had one of the GT3 RSs, but if you had one of those BBI Porsches, you could actually drive it all the time.
matt farah
I could probably drive it and stay in jail, but my body would shrivel up into a fucking old man.
joe rogan
Here's the question, though.
matt farah
My back is fucking shot.
joe rogan
But here's the question.
Would you be able to enjoy it after driving a GT3 RS? Probably.
matt farah
Something that's like old is sort of like frozen in time.
It will always be that.
You can always go back to it, and it doesn't wear off.
Whereas like...
This new shit where it's like computer controlled and paddle shifters.
Every time there's the new one, the old one feels old.
Whereas something that is stick shift and sort of analog is kind of timeless and sort of frozen in that moment.
joe rogan
Like a 69 Mustang.
matt farah
It will always be a 69 Mustang.
And it will never feel any older than it already is.
joe rogan
But an 89 Mustang is kind of dog shit.
matt farah
Fuck you.
I'm taking mine to get some crazy shit.
alex ross
Yeah, but NSX feels good.
It feels as good as any Cayman that Porsche has ever done.
Yeah, I had one.
joe rogan
It was a 275 horsepower, 5-speed, or 6-speed.
It was one of my favorite cars ever.
alex ross
Yeah.
joe rogan
It wasn't that fast, but it was fun to drive.
matt farah
It's fun to ring it out, and you can use it.
joe rogan
You can use the whole thing.
And it was so balanced.
The car really made you feel like you were really doing it.
You were really moving.
Except the horns on the thumb.
Ferrari has that now.
matt farah
They have all the buttons.
joe rogan
What?
Ferrari has that now?
matt farah
Blinkers are on the steering wheel.
joe rogan
The horn is on the steering wheel?
matt farah
The horn is in the same place as it was in your car.
The blinkers are on the steering wheel, too.
joe rogan
How dare they?
How dare they?
What excites you about what's coming out right now?
About the new cars that are out that you've been driving.
How many cars do you drive a year?
matt farah
150 to 200 usually.
joe rogan
That's insane.
unidentified
That's a lot.
matt farah
A lot of new cars.
joe rogan
That's insane.
matt farah
What is exciting right now?
Well, the new Mustang is exciting.
Independent suspension in the Mustang, finally.
A turbo engine.
joe rogan
Really?
matt farah
Yeah, there's a four-cylinder turbo that's going to be kind of the tuner special for the Mustang.
It's going to be neat.
joe rogan
That's going to be interesting, too, because it's going to be lightweight in the front, right?
alex ross
What about the Alpha 4C? Have you driven that?
matt farah
I haven't driven it.
Chris Harris drove it and liked it.
Other people have driven it and said different things.
I'm excited for it.
I want to try it.
joe rogan
When are they going to put out the big horsepower Mustang?
Because they're going to have a new version of the Shelby?
matt farah
It's probably 2016, I would bet.
It'll be at least a year after it first comes out.
joe rogan
Are they going to have a GT, though?
matt farah
Yeah.
There's three engines.
The base one is a V6 and the turbo four is a step up from the V6, actually.
And then the V8 will be like 450 horsepower.
joe rogan
That's going to be interesting to see what it's like.
It'll be the Boss 302 engine, is the V8. I wonder if they'll do like a whole Laguna Seca version of it.
matt farah
They'll do something like that.
The Boss 302 was too successful for them not to do another something.
That's really cool.
And the new Challenger Hellcat, which is the best name ever for a car.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just looked at pictures of that, man.
matt farah
It's pretty beastie looking.
joe rogan
It looks pretty badass, but it also looks like it doesn't have any fucking back tires.
unidentified
It doesn't look like a very meaty, back-tired vehicle.
matt farah
I bet the tires go...
joe rogan
Like, look at that.
I'm not comfortable stomping on the gas.
matt farah
I think it's probably meant for doing burnouts.
Which is probably why.
alex ross
The skinnier the tire, the more burnout, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, that'll work.
It's 600 fucking horsepower.
matt farah
I love it, though.
And the new M3 and M4, I'm excited for.
joe rogan
I just hope that this has some handling to it.
I think it would be cool if they had it where it can compete with the new Camaro, the LS. Those cars are big, man.
matt farah
That's a 4,000-pound-plus car.
It's a big car.
Those cars are GT cars.
They're great on a road trip.
They're great for...
joe rogan
But if it had a ZL1-type suspension in it, how much bigger is this than a Camaro?
Really?
matt farah
Yeah, it's probably 600 pounds, 700 pounds heavier.
unidentified
Wow.
matt farah
Yeah, it's a big girl, that thing.
joe rogan
I drove one when I did my sci-fi show.
I enjoyed it, but it did feel like a GT car.
matt farah
It's a good cruiser.
The tighter the corner, the worse it does.
Yeah, I liked it.
They're neat, they're just not race cars.
alex ross
Wouldn't you rather have, like, you know, a thousand pounds less than a hundred horsepower more, though?
You know, like a three thousand pound car would be so much better.
matt farah
Yeah, but there ain't nothing wrong with a six hundred and sixty pound Dodge Challenger.
alex ross
Yeah, that's the shit.
matt farah
I don't want one in my own garage.
I'm not gonna go drop 60 on it right now, but I'm glad it exists.
joe rogan
Yeah, but as a comfortable daily driver, it's a comfortable car to drive.
unidentified
It's a great car.
joe rogan
Really good seats.
Most powerful muscle car in Chrysler history.
Does it have any specs?
matt farah
I think it's supposed to be 666 horsepower.
It's a supercharged 6.4 liter V8. And wait, look, scroll back up real quick.
See this?
That headlight, that's an air intake right next to the headlight.
alex ross
What?
That's straight out of JDM, dude.
matt farah
Where they take out the headlight and put an intake there?
They've done that here.
alex ross
So you remember you said you had a super?
A lot of people would take that front light out, right?
And I think it was on the driver's side.
And so they'd go down the track at night with one light, which was illegal.
But they'd have this hole going all the way in with a tube and intake into the engine.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
Does that mean it takes away one of the headlights to make it less safe to drive?
matt farah
No, the inner ones are auxiliary fog lights or whatever.
alex ross
Yeah, on that car.
matt farah
They've just changed the headlight pattern to make it cool.
And it's actually, it's got like a little, what they call angel eyes, like BMWs have the rings.
alex ross
Oh yeah.
matt farah
That intake's got an angel eye thing around it.
joe rogan
Isn't it a weird time for fucking performance cars where a car that used to be ridiculous is out of the box Mustang GT. It used to be ridiculous to have 420 fucking horsepower.
matt farah
I just drove a Lamborghini Countach quattro valve.
Fastest car in the world at the time.
Mustang GT today makes as much horsepower as this.
That you can buy for 28 grand.
joe rogan
Is there a corresponding increase in traffic accidents with all this horsepower?
matt farah
Increased safety features.
Tires are a big difference now.
The speed limits haven't gone up.
Speed limits are exactly the fucking same.
joe rogan
They have gone up a little.
alex ross
Have you ever seen that show called Fifth Gear?
It was the original guys from Top Gear.
So they went off and did a more serious car show.
I think it was about...
Three years ago, they did this shoot or, you know, segment on traction control, and they had Tiff Nadell trying to base...
unidentified
The Hellcat.
alex ross
Oh, my word.
joe rogan
Sticks with a fucking manual transmission.
matt farah
No more pistol grip, though.
joe rogan
America!
Fuck yeah!
I'll tell you why, because the pistol grip kind of sucked a fat dick.
matt farah
Overrated.
It was overrated.
joe rogan
Wasn't that cool?
alex ross
Well, they had this law in Europe, basically, in all of Europe, where you have to have traction control on all cars now, and the system has to be so good that even Tiff Nadell could not get the car to slide.
He tried every single thing he could to get it to slide.
Remember that one?
That was crazy, yeah.
joe rogan
I wonder, if anything, what they've done to make the tires larger.
It says the subtle trimmed hem of the wheel wells accommodates the aggressive 20-inch aluminum wheel and tire package.
matt farah
Because that's what I would worry about.
I have a fucking Peterman catalog.
They've gone inward with it.
The wheels are deeper.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
matt farah
They're a deeper wheel, so they don't stick out any further.
They go in further.
alex ross
You know what else is silly, though, with these newer cars?
I don't even know how big are those wheels.
joe rogan
They're probably 21. Why don't you watch your mouth when you're in my country calling our cars silly?
How about that?
alex ross
No, no.
All of these cars.
Even a 991 Turbo.
That's great.
It's got 20 inch wheels.
20. Why not just have, you know, 22s?
matt farah
Because people want their shit on rims.
joe rogan
Is 20 inch too big?
Is that what you're saying?
matt farah
Race cars still use 18s.
That's the optimum.
joe rogan
Do they use 20 just for looks?
alex ross
Pretty much.
matt farah
And to fit bigger brakes.
joe rogan
But you gotta admit, it does look fresh.
unidentified
It does.
alex ross
I agree, but...
matt farah
Can I plug something before we get out of here?
unidentified
Let's get out of here.
matt farah
So last time I was on the show, we talked about going off this off-road adventure we were doing, 600 miles off-road, the state of Washington.
joe rogan
Yes.
matt farah
In some shitboxes.
The film comes out June 1st.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
What's it called?
matt farah
It's called All Cars Go to Heaven.
It's available on Vimeo as a rental or a digital download.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
matt farah
It's also available on our YouTube channel.
alex ross
Very cool.
matt farah
And we...
joe rogan
Shenanigans?
matt farah
We shenanigansed.
We shenanigansed the shit out of a couple of beater cars across the state of Washington.
It was fantastic.
joe rogan
I can't wait to see it.
Somebody produced this for you?
Did you guys do it in-house?
matt farah
We did it all in-house.
That's amazing.
I love it.
And our whole crew appears on camera, too, not just me.
joe rogan
That's glorious.
It's hilarious.
All cars go to heaven.
matt farah
There it is.
There it is.
joe rogan
Give me some volume.
matt farah
The entire state of Washington.
I am driving a Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Oh, you got headphones?
Zach is driving that.
And it's day two so far.
The hood is up and he's down half a suspension.
Want to see how the rest of it goes?
unidentified
Watch the whole movie only at the smoking tire.
matt farah
Yeah, so we basically bought some cheap cars.
Tried to go 600 miles off-road across the entire state of Washington into Canada.
I really like being out.
And it's harder than it looks.
joe rogan
And you drove over ground?
No off-roading.
matt farah
Look at this.
That's an 87 Tercel we bought for $300.
joe rogan
Was someone surfing on the hood?
matt farah
Oh, that was Zach.
Yeah, Zach.
joe rogan
That's not recommended.
matt farah
No, not at all.
joe rogan
Wow.
matt farah
And so it's a good time.
joe rogan
That sounds awesome, man.
matt farah
Yeah, it's like $4, I think.
Comes out June 1st.
joe rogan
$4, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
Come on.
matt farah
Less than this beer right here.
joe rogan
Yeah, 16 quarters.
Come on.
Drop it up.
alex ross
Yep.
matt farah
So June 1st, thesmokingtire.com slash film.
joe rogan
Sounds glorious.
matt farah
And Drive on NBC Sports.
joe rogan
Yes.
matt farah
Starts Saturday the 24th at 9.30 a.m.
Eastern, which is stupid.
It's right before Monaco Grand Prix qualifying, though.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
matt farah
And then it repeats at 10.30 p.m.
joe rogan
Eastern on NBC Sports.
alex ross
Yeah, you couldn't ask for a better one.
That's good.
matt farah
That's a good one.
Right after Monaco Grand Prix qualifying.
joe rogan
Well, let me know when it comes out, and we'd be happy to promote it here.
And let me know...
matt farah
I'll give you some codes to download the film, to give away to people or whatever.
joe rogan
The film, let me know that.
Let me know the show.
I'll let everybody know when the show comes out.
And you can follow Matt online, The Smoking Tire on Twitter.
And what's the website?
matt farah
TheSmokingTire.com.
joe rogan
TheSmokingTire.com.
SharkWorks.
If you want to get your car hooked up, if you're interested in getting, you know, maybe you do.
I don't know.
Maybe like, fuck you, Joe Rogan.
I don't know.
alex ross
We've got like over 500 cars.
That's just some of the ones that we've done that we put up there.
joe rogan
And if you're just an enthusiast and you dream one day in the future, watch some of the videos online because they're pretty fucking awesome.
matt farah
We're going to have your car and your car.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
matt farah
Coming on Smoking Tire.
joe rogan
Glorious, glorious.
All right.
Thank you, Alex.
Good times, my friend.
Thank you, man.
And you can follow Alex on Twitter at SharkWorks, right?
matt farah
That's correct.
joe rogan
SharkWorks on Twitter.
With an E. Works, yeah.
W-E-R-K-S. SharkWorks.
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