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April 24, 2013 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:04:21
Joe Rogan Experience #352 - Tom Segura
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bert kreischer
05:47
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brian redban
13:29
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joe rogan
01:10:47
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tom segura
23:53
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joey diaz
04:35
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joe rogan
Hey!
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Meow!
joe rogan
Whoa, we forgot where you were.
unidentified
Yeah, I did.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is the original spot.
And in the original spot, now known as Death Squad East.
Death Squad East has cats.
And for some reason, Brian has decided that Dasquad West is a primate beast.
brian redban
It's all monkeys and scary things.
tom segura
Live ones too, right?
joe rogan
Well, the studio itself definitely has a different feel.
You know, with the werewolf when you walk into the place.
tom segura
That's an extraordinary feel.
joe rogan
That thing's awesome.
tom segura
It is awesome.
joe rogan
It's the coolest thing I've ever bought in my life.
Powerful Pat McGee.
The guy from Pat McGee Special Effects, he makes them.
You can order one, and you can order one.
brian redban
Before you got married, your house would have at least seven of those in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it would definitely have.
It's so different.
When you live with a chick, man, they start moving your shit around, putting pictures of your kids on the wall.
I used to have chimps up all over my house.
If you went over my house when I was a single man back in the day, I used to have pictures of chimps everywhere.
tom segura
And sculptures, too?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Weird sculptures.
Weird shit.
tom segura
Yeah.
brian redban
Literally, you'd walk around his whole entire house and there'd be a monkey or a chimp every five steps.
There'd be a different picture.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
One eating a tiger, one eating sex.
joe rogan
No, there's no chimps eating tigers, but I got them chasing after chickens.
tom segura
For how long were you rocking that, though?
joe rogan
Oh, man, I've been obsessed with chimpanzees since I was a baby.
tom segura
So even like teenager style, you were doing it?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, I've always been obsessed with apes.
Obsessed with them.
I find them fucking fascinating.
My production company's name is Talking Monkey Incorporated.
That was in like 1988. And that was a line I stole from a movie with...
What the fuck was that dude's name?
I forget his name.
tom segura
Wait, you don't believe that.
joe rogan
Mark Harmon?
The thing that was his?
He had a funny movie, like a summertime movie.
tom segura
Mark Harmon, okay.
joe rogan
It was like summer school or some shit like that.
He was like the teacher in summer school.
And he said to a guy, if you lose one more brain cell, you'd be a talking monkey.
And I remember that all of a sudden put in my head the idea of a talking monkey.
Like, how stupid would a person have to be?
If we really did evolve, how far back would we have to go until we became a talking monkey?
You know what I mean?
What is that?
And so that became, I mean, that was my initial obsession, but that's why I named my company Talking Monkey Incorporated.
tom segura
I can see how an obsession with monkeys develops.
joe rogan
They're so fascinating, man.
If they didn't exist, we would be tripping the fuck out.
If someone showed you, if there was no chimpanzees, and all of a sudden we found chimpanzees somewhere, we'd be like, holy shit, look at them, they're looking at you, they're thinking, oh my god, they're using tools, holy fuck, look at this, this is like a window back in time!
unidentified
This is like the fucking sensory deprivation tank in altered states!
joe rogan
We can see our past.
I mean, you literally can see your past.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, somehow or another.
I don't understand evolution scientifically.
tom segura
Behaviorally.
joe rogan
When I talk like this, people said, well, you really don't understand how evolution works.
Okay, I appreciate that, but I think you can reasonably extrapolate that if people exist, and then there was some early people.
There was like, you know, homo whatever.
There was like a bunch of different homos.
tom segura
Yeah, lots of homos, yeah.
joe rogan
Homo Australopithecus.
There was that one too.
Our direct ancestors that they believe.
It's like, somehow or another, we had to be more primitive.
It wasn't like we just started out close to a human.
There were some steps along the way, you fuck.
And I think it's not unreasonable to look at chimpanzees and say, even though that's not our step along the way, it's from a different branch of the same tree, the same primate tree, I think you can reasonably extrapolate that there's something very similar to the way they are that we probably were, you know, at least we can put it together.
Them and orangutans and bonobos, we can mix them all together and try to figure out what the fuck we were like.
tom segura
There's different models that have to come along before humans.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, there has to be.
tom segura
There's a C class, and there's an E class, and then there's an S class, you know?
joe rogan
You know what?
Fuck commercials for this podcast.
I don't feel like doing any commercials.
This is like a podcast that came out of nowhere.
We didn't even see this coming, Tommy Buns.
We put it together last minute.
So, no commercials.
Suck it.
Suck it, please.
Move on.
And let's just get going.
Brian Redman working the mic, rocking the discs, turning the tables.
unidentified
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
joe rogan
Ladies and gentlemen, Tommy Buns.
Now this podcast may be the first podcast that Sirius ever plays where you get the full podcast.
brian redban
Oh, Sirius?
joe rogan
They don't have to edit it because we don't have a commercial in it.
brian redban
Oh, that's great.
joe rogan
So what people don't know is that I'm financially irresponsible and...
I'm not that good at advertising shit.
And a lot of times when we do our podcast, the advertisements may take as long as 20 minutes.
Because somewhere in the advertisements, you know, Brian Callum might bring up some crazy fucking book that he read, and all of a sudden we're on this wild journey, or Duncan Trussell blows your mind with a certain thought in the middle of a commercial talking about something, and now you're off on a tangent.
But a lot of that shit never makes it to Sirius Satellite Radio.
brian redban
I even think, isn't the show only like an hour long too?
Like they just edit it down to an hour or something?
joe rogan
Probably.
I don't know.
But it's awesome that they put us on there.
I'm happy to be on there because it's Opie and Anthony who are my friends.
It's a good group of humans.
They're good guys.
Jim Norton's a great guy.
I love being associated with those guys.
Those guys, I'm down for them.
tom segura
Everybody seems like a good crew, man.
joe rogan
They're great guys, man.
Anthony's a beautiful human being.
Opie is a fucking awesome guy.
They're awesome.
Jim Norton is one of my favorite humans ever.
So it's like all of them together.
We have some great conversations.
They're not dumb guys by any stretch of the imagination.
Even though I disagree with some of them ideologically.
Sometimes I disagree with Anthony.
He's real strong, right-wing, Republican.
But he's also, I believe in a lot of things that he believes in.
There's a lot of shit that I believe in, especially the gun control issue.
You know, I mean, he's a bit extreme, you know?
He's a crazy gun nut, and he has guns all over the place.
tom segura
He loves guns, huh?
joe rogan
That's all I see.
I honestly believe that when you see these shooting victims and all these different things, this is not a gun issue.
It's a mental health issue.
It's the ability to do that that should be so alien from our society.
And I liken it to a group of close friends, okay?
And this is obviously an exaggeration.
It's really hard to do when you're talking about a giant society of people that are never going to get to meet each other.
But, in a group of close friends, like us, the people in this room, okay?
Let's pretend that we were all on a deserted island.
What are the odds that one of us would become a suicide bomber?
Okay, pretty fucking small, right?
Pretty fucking small.
How does someone become a suicide bomber?
How does someone become a guy who could drop a bomb off at a marathon finishing line?
How does someone do that?
What the fuck happens to that guy that lets you do that?
Because the reality is that there's a lot of shit that can kill people in this world, including cars.
And everyone has cars.
And if you wanted to kill far more people than this guy did at the marathon, you could run over people in your car.
The reason he did it this way is because he wanted to not be accountable for it.
He thought he could get away with it.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
If this is the, you know, if you buy the official story, Alex Jones, if you buy the official story, ladies and gentlemen!
But if you, you know, you look at this guy, like who they're claiming this guy is that was the older brother, they think he might have committed three murders as well.
tom segura
Three murders outside of this?
joe rogan
Yeah, and one night, three people were murdered, and one of them was a close friend and training partner of this guy.
And the bodies, cash was left there, and the bodies were covered with marijuana.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, and this guy was very religious, apparently, and he had become more and more religious in the past few years.
Now again...
Settle down, tinfoil people.
This is if you buy the official story.
I don't know who the fuck this dude was.
I'm just reading what I'm getting out of.
Essentially, almost all news sources seem to be agreeing with these stories.
That this guy was super religious.
tom segura
Well, he got kind of radicalized a couple years ago.
He went back to Russia for six months.
And they say that's when he came back and radicalized.
joe rogan
Again, that's the official story.
Alex Jones will tell you, this is a false flag event, Tommy.
What they're doing, they're trying to take away your guns.
brian redban
Well, supposedly he listened to Alex Jones.
He was a fan of InfoWars.
That's so ridiculous.
joe rogan
Well, maybe he was a fan of InfoWars the way I'm a fan of Sean Hannity.
Like, oh, listen, just because it's fucking hilarity.
It's funny to watch people twist the narrative like that.
It's funny to watch people that are just so blatantly right-wing that they'll just never admit Ever that anyone on the left has any idea.
Any even compliment is said with a smirk that's soon to follow some disparaging remark about who they are.
It's never like, Obama's a brilliant man.
tom segura
Even if it's an idea that they were behind, there's still a spin on it.
joe rogan
It's a fucking game.
They're in a team, and they strategize to get that team to win.
And they do it within the rules, but they know they're full of shit.
Like, as they're doing it, you can hear their voice.
They know they're full of shit.
But the game is so screwy.
It's one of those games that doesn't make any sense, like baseball.
Why the fuck do they dress like that?
Look how you're dressed.
Look at those stupid fucking tights.
And what is that outfit?
unidentified
What is that?
tom segura
You don't like those socks?
joe rogan
They've always dressed like that, goddammit.
They're stuck.
They're stuck with a stupid outfit back from when people didn't have newspapers.
That's when they made that dumbass outfit.
That outfit's retarded.
It is a retarded outfit.
It's ridiculous.
It's stupid as fuck.
tom segura
It puts me in tears to watch that game.
joe rogan
Well, it's a fun game to play.
tom segura
I'm sure.
joe rogan
But getting stuck in that old shit like that, that's the only reason why politicians are able to get away with the way they communicate today.
tom segura
I can't imagine being a person who is into politics, like really into it, and not be cynical and not be...
It's so disheartening to follow politics.
To me, it just...
It absolutely kills the soul.
joe rogan
You know what, man?
I recognize it as I become an older man.
I recognize it for what it is.
It's an act.
Right.
And you know why?
I know because I do an act, too.
I know what an act is like.
I know when I'm doing stand-up.
When I have stand-up, I'm going to, you know, if I want to do my best.
What I do is I ad-lib quite a bit, but I also have some key components that I have broken down into pretty specific ways of saying it.
Right.
Because that's the best way.
It has the most response.
But I'm trying to tell jokes.
When you hear a person give a speech and they have that weird sort of artificial quality to the way they're talking, we should reject that.
tom segura
Yes.
I completely agree with you.
joe rogan
We shouldn't let them do that.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
We should be like, just talk like a normal person.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
What are you doing about the budget?
The budget is an important priority of this administration.
unidentified
It's something we think about every day.
joe rogan
Who the fuck are you?
tom segura
Yeah, what are you saying?
unidentified
If your guy was talking to you like that, you'd be like, stop!
joe rogan
Stop, asshole!
tom segura
You know who else does that exact speech, too?
That type of language comes from the corporate world.
If you talk to a guy and you're like, I had a bad experience at your offices, he'd be like...
You know, every time a customer comes into one of our establishments, we want them to have opportunity.
We want them to have choices.
And you're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
That's corporate.
That's not how humans can stop.
Exactly.
Exactly.
You can hear the training video.
You get that sometimes when you go, now when they go, do you want to sign up for the special extra warranty?
You go, I don't know.
They go, well, you know, when I had my computer a couple years ago, I knocked a bottle of Coke over.
I love Coke.
And it left a thing, and because of the warranty, they took care of it.
You're like, that's a training speech.
They tell you to make a personal story up.
And you're like, I know you're saying that to me right now.
joe rogan
It's so corny and fake.
That didn't happen to you.
You know that feeling when someone's lying to you, that when you're looking at them and they're just straight bullshitting you, and they won't even look you in the eye, they're looking down, looking around, and panicking as they bullshit you.
tom segura
Sure.
The worst is if you know somebody that can do, when you know they're lying and they're not panicking, you're like, oh, you're a crazy person.
You're a fucking sociopath, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a weird moment when you're talking to a guy and you're like, I'm not sure what realm you're playing this game in.
tom segura
I'm not wearing a hat right now.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tom segura
I'm not wearing a hat.
unidentified
And you're like, see it on your head.
tom segura
I'm not wearing one, man.
joe rogan
Especially if they get stuck in a bad situation.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
They get stuck in where they did something douchey.
tom segura
You know.
Yep.
You're like, wow.
joe rogan
Crazy people are so strange.
It's so weird to run into someone who just doesn't see things.
unidentified
It is, man.
joe rogan
Like, you see the world, and they see a gigantic galactic conspiracy.
Did I ever tell you about this comedian, whoever may name us, who came up to me and just started showing me pictures on his iPhones?
He's like, look at this.
And I'm looking at it.
It's pictures of clouds.
tom segura
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
joe rogan
I'm like, I'm thinking, okay, it's beautiful clouds.
He goes, look at that.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
And we just keep doing this.
He shows me like 10 of these.
And he's an older guy, so I'm trying to be considerate.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, wow, pretty cool.
And he goes, you know, I've been seeing them for years.
I go, what are they?
He goes, they're alien craft.
He goes, these are UFOs.
They've been coming in various forms.
I see them.
I've been taking pictures of them.
It's incredible that You know, no one's paying attention to this.
This is a very strange thing.
And I'm like, am I in a sketch?
I'm like, is he fucking with me?
Because, you know, he's kind of a silly guy.
I'm like, if he's fucking with me, this would be kind of...
And then I realized, oh, oh, wait a minute.
I'm dealing with someone who's got a screw loose.
There's a screw.
It's not where it's supposed to be.
He's not 100% crazy.
Like, he's very functional for the most part.
I enjoy talking to him.
He's a nice guy.
But when it gets to...
He'll pull out his fucking iPhone.
You gotta run.
You gotta get out of there.
Because you're gonna be looking at pictures of clouds.
And he's gonna tell you about spacecrafts that have been contacting him.
tom segura
Yeah.
And it's...
joe rogan
But other than that, he's normal.
Do you like cheeseburgers?
I like cheeseburgers.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You wanna get fries?
Yeah, can you pass me a salt, please?
Sure.
So what's going on, man?
How's the road treating you?
Like, you have a conversation with a guy.
tom segura
Yeah, sure.
I know a guy like that, and you think he's just being kind of a storyteller.
He starts telling stories, and you're like, there's a lot of exaggerations in these stories.
And then you're like, you know, he kind of rambles on and on.
And then he switches topics real fast to a whole new story.
But it's about something like, he's like, you know, I got shot six times.
And you're like, what?
He's like, yeah.
So I was over.
I was in South Carolina.
I was going past Columbia.
And it's a new story that starts.
And you're like, yeah.
And then this guy held me.
And then we were up in the trees.
And then this guy pulled out a 9mm.
And he has everything.
And you're like, I thought we were talking about fishing or something.
And then he goes back to when I took a hot air balloon.
I bought a hot air balloon company.
A number of years ago, and I took this money that I got from this investment in mines, and I bought this company that takes hot air balloons up in the air.
It cost me like a quarter million to get the startup going.
You're like, what?
You make $10 an hour.
What are you talking about right now, man?
It's just story after story.
And then I start kind of like, I don't know what to believe, and then part of it's fun to believe.
And I start to think for a second, I'll stop and be like, are you an improvisational genius?
Are you like a brilliant improv guy right now?
Is that what's going on?
Am I getting played or something?
joe rogan
You're getting punked.
tom segura
Yeah, but then there's something you see in the eyes where you're like, oh, I really think there's...
Maybe I'm talking to somebody who has a form of mental illness, and it's not the type that makes you go like, I don't know like maybe more scare or maybe like sillier like it's not he has all the intelligence and you can talk about like what should we eat now and you have a normal conversation about that and then it goes off into like 10 different storylines.
joe rogan
It's almost like it's not his fault.
tom segura
Yeah, it's not.
It's not at that point.
joe rogan
I don't know how your brain works, man.
I don't.
I'm guessing.
I always guess.
When people act like, why the fuck did you do that?
I have to stop myself sometimes and go, I don't know how his brain works.
My brain would process the same scenario in a different way, but maybe his brain would handle some shit that I can't handle very well.
I don't know.
I don't know how you think.
But I know when I see someone who's just not...
We're not...
There's a missing connection there.
Like, I feel like this guy's like...
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's missing a whole piece.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
Like, what's going on here?
tom segura
Sometimes you can see it from the moment, right?
Like, there's some people who...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
At the moment, you're like...
But it's scarier when you have long, normal conversations before that, and then you're like, what?
Has this been there the whole time?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I've talked to people, and then 20 minutes into the conversation, you realize they're crazy.
Some people, it takes a little while.
Some people, it's like right away.
Those are the dangerous crazy.
Dangerous crazy have like sparks to them.
You just want to back away from them.
Dangerous crazy, they give off an odor.
You can't be dangerous crazy unless there's like a certain amount of danger to your odor.
You just feel weird.
You feel weird to be around.
Every dangerous dude I've ever known has this like intangible odor about them.
You know, you're just like, okay, let's get the fuck out of here.
You know, those dudes.
brian redban
Smells like the cunt farm.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's not dangerous.
Those are just silly people for the most part.
It's just fucked up.
tom segura
I feel like that almost with super negative people, like people that it's not good for you to be around, you pick up on additional vibes from them.
Like just being around them.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't know what it is, right?
It's not a smell.
It's not like they give off heat.
tom segura
But if they leave, like, if you're just meeting them and they leave the room, and like, let's say you just brought somebody in, right when they leave, you're like, something's off with that guy.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
brian redban
It's usually their eyes for me, because I always look people in the eyes for like a second.
You can see like the worriness or the friendliness.
joe rogan
Sometimes, yeah.
Or sometimes they just smell crazy.
I remember Brian Cowan had this chick once, and he brought her over.
And I mean, and I'm not bullshitting, within...
Three seconds of meeting her, I knew she was nuts.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he brought her over and they introduced, you know, hey, this is Joe.
Joe, this is whatever her name was.
And I go, hi, nice to meet you.
She goes, hi.
And I go, come here for a second.
I go, that girl's fucking crazy.
I go, what are you doing?
He goes, what are you talking about?
I go, dude, that girl is fucking crazy.
I go, trust me, you got to get the fuck out of here.
tom segura
That fast, you knew?
unidentified
That fast!
joe rogan
I locked eyes with her, and it wasn't a nervousness.
People get nervous if they see people that have been on television sometimes.
But that goes away pretty quick once you start talking.
Usually they're weirded out, but you can see what the weirded out was.
This was like a crazy person.
I was like, what are you doing, Callan?
She wasn't bad looking.
She was a very attractive young lady.
But unfortunately, there was something wrong with her mind.
Years later, Brian was going into a bar, and he ran into her, and she was a streetwalker.
tom segura
Wow.
A couple years later?
joe rogan
Yeah, it turned out she was cranked out on meth, and while he was with her, she was doing meth.
It took him a while to figure it out.
Like, exactly what the fuck was wrong with her, and he tried to fix her.
tom segura
Oh, really?
He was doing that?
joe rogan
And then he gave up on that, and then, you know, he runs into her, and he's going to a bar, and she's a streetwalker.
brian redban
He probably cut out the part where he slept with her again.
Just one last time.
joe rogan
Oh, my goodness.
brian redban
You know he did.
tom segura
Just one last time.
brian redban
I had 20 bucks on me.
joe rogan
How recent are these scabs?
When's your last checkup?
I don't want to use a condom.
unidentified
Come on, baby.
joe rogan
Not you.
Not you.
tom segura
You're special to me.
joe rogan
You always use condoms.
Don't lie to me.
unidentified
Every time.
Every time.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's a hooker, but she always uses condoms.
Don't worry, man.
tom segura
She's a good girl, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, he said it was really super depressing.
But I smelled her.
I don't know what to describe it.
I mean, it would suck if I was wrong.
She was like the nicest person ever.
But I wasn't wrong.
That's exactly what I was warning him about.
tom segura
Danger has a smell.
Danger has a smell.
joe rogan
It's a something.
brian redban
It's a victorious...
joe rogan
Burt Kreischer and Joey Diaz, ladies and gentlemen, they are actually doing a podcast, a live podcast, which is the perfect spot for it right next door at the Ice House, and they're doing that at 8.30.
And is that going to be on Ustream or anything like that, or just on iTunes?
Yeah.
Just on iTunes, bitches.
tom segura
Do you smell that?
joe rogan
You don't have to see it.
tom segura
It smells crazy in here right now.
brian redban
Yeah, it smells like...
joe rogan
Bert, did you...
brian redban
What's that Victoria's Secrets perfume that all the strippers wear?
That's what I think crazy smells like.
Happy?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Bert doesn't wear cologne.
Is that what you're trying to say?
I saw a friend of mine's tweet the other day, like, oh, I gotta go shopping for cologne.
Ugh.
And I'm like, oh, no you don't.
No, you don't ever.
brian redban
Watch out for puppies on the floor.
joe rogan
Powerful.
bert kreischer
Is that your stripper dog?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Powerful Bird Kreischer.
bert kreischer
You're just like those porn stars who just mind about their dogs.
unidentified
Powerful Bird Kreischer.
Powerful Joey T. George St. Pierre podcast was fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was cool.
I wish he could have stayed longer than an hour.
You know, I mean, that's a long time for most people.
But he was super cool to talk to.
bert kreischer
Really nice guy.
So what's the rap?
Is my mic on?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's on.
bert kreischer
Does he really think he got abducted by aliens?
joe rogan
Yeah, he really thinks he got abducted by aliens.
bert kreischer
Seriously?
joe rogan
Yeah, he thinks that it's possible that ever since he was a little boy, like he's been missing time, he misses time sometimes, and he thinks it's possible that they take him.
bert kreischer
And he doesn't want to let that shit out.
joe rogan
He doesn't want to talk about it too much.
bert kreischer
Because fucking Nick Diaz would get a hold of that fucking tariff.
joe rogan
Well, you know what, man?
He fights like a fucking alien.
brian redban
Joe, did you read what it could be?
Somebody on your message board put a Wikipedia page where it said it could be five or six different things.
One thing, when we were talking about driving on the highway, that's actually a condition, like highway hypnotism.
Where you just get hypnotized by the highway, the constant motion.
Then it also said that some people say it's aliens, but I think you should just do the GoPro thing.
Just record yourself.
joe rogan
I tell you, what I saw in my eyeballs was not what was on this GoPro.
I tell you, I saw UFO, man.
unidentified
I'm not fucking lying.
UFO, come down, man, and take me to another planet.
Fucking lying to you.
joe rogan
That's my best George St. Pierre.
It was pretty good at first.
tom segura
Do you just roll with him when he says...
Are you like, that's cool, man?
joe rogan
Well, I don't know what the fuck's going on with him.
That might be true.
Imagine if it was true and I was mocking him.
tom segura
You gotta deal with him and the aliens, man.
joe rogan
He had a really good point, man.
And it's a point I've heard before, but it's still a really good point.
He's like, imagine if you were a fish and you were in the ocean and you were living your life and all of a sudden...
A man come in with a hook and he pull you out of the water and you come back to tell your friend, like, look, I saw a person and there was a plane in the sky.
unidentified
They'd be like, get the fuck out of here, you're crazy.
bert kreischer
That was a really good point, too.
I was on the plane laughing hysterically.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a very good point.
It's a very good point.
tom segura
Yeah, it is.
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Because, look, the fact that we exist at all is insane.
People with cell phones, driving around in their cars, talking to another dude.
I do that all the time in my car.
I was talking to my friend Tommy.
He lives in Connecticut.
We're talking while I'm driving around.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And in real time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And just taking it for granted.
Just completely taking it for granted.
We're crazy!
tom segura
It's amazing.
unidentified
Pulling fish out of the ocean with giant nets and shit.
joe rogan
And throwing all our shit water in there.
Get out of here.
Just dumping all our pollutants.
bert kreischer
Apex predators.
joe rogan
We don't give a fuck.
We're gangster.
If there's water near us, it's no good.
Water in New York, there's no good water.
You can't drink any of that.
You can't grow fish in any of that.
All that water's polluted.
We're like, yeah, you know, it's the Hudson.
tom segura
It's the way it is.
joe rogan
It's just the way it is.
These fucking animals just throwing glass and shit and piss and tampons and rubbers.
joey diaz
And bodies.
joe rogan
Bodies.
joey diaz
Fucking dead goldfish.
People from New York come over to the Jersey side on Sundays.
It's like a big day for them.
Like we're going to Jersey on fucking Sunday.
And they go over and they fish and they catch eel and they'll grill them.
What the fuck?
It's just an eel.
It's got meat on it.
Trust me, I eat an eel from the fucking Hudson.
That's why I ain't scared of nothing.
Cancer, they can suck my dick.
I eat an eel from the fucking Hudson.
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
joey diaz
I remember we were in Jersey one time and me and Joe were on a bus headed to the UFC event and I showed him this pond and I said, look at cancer.
It was late cancer.
It was cancer.
This pond hadn't moved.
It had no movement.
It had a layer of this green algae, which really wasn't green.
That's just cancer, bro.
New Jersey, they've been dumping shit since the 70s.
joe rogan
Yeah.
joey diaz
Since the 60s, bro.
That's never going to be...
What's that word?
Reconcilable?
joe rogan
Reconcilable.
joey diaz
No, the other word, when you can't reverse it.
Irreconcilable.
unidentified
You can never reverse those things.
joey diaz
That soil in New Jersey's gone.
bert kreischer
We all took a shot of that girl.
joey diaz
That soil in New Jersey's gone.
You know, I remember when they built the Meadowlands.
I remember how many animals all of a sudden I had in my living room.
Because they tore all that down, that wildlife.
And next thing you know, I was seeing, I remember one night seeing a possum the size of a small pit bull that jumped on a fucking tree.
He jumped on a fucking tree.
He saw me.
He was like a possum, you know, like in Jersey.
They walk like a fucking ape, those things.
When you call the police in Jersey, I got a possum here, they shoot the fucking thing.
They shoot the fucking thing.
unidentified
What does that tell you?
joey diaz
They don't shoot snakes.
They shoot the fucking possum.
Because they play dead.
And then when the cops leave, they fucking get up.
And they brush them.
You could run over a fucking car with them.
I would run over with bicycles and throw rocks at them.
They brush themselves off.
joe rogan
What a weird behavioral trait.
They play dead.
joey diaz
They fucking play dead.
joe rogan
That's where playing possum comes from.
joey diaz
Oh, I seen a fucking possum that looked at me one night at like 4 in the morning.
I looked at him.
I was like, what the fuck?
And he jumped on a tree and went...
unidentified
He held onto the tree like a fucking ape in Africa.
joey diaz
And I was like, this is fucking mind-boggling.
I saw skunks that looked like fucking...
Like monsters.
You know, Meadowland...
What do you think those skunks...
Didn't they just...
We had this discussion on your show a year and a half ago about the Bronx.
They found a rat that was...
Just amazing.
Like it broke all records, the length of it, like two and a half feet.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a type of, I think it's called a Zambian something rat.
Are you fucking kidding me?
It's not from America.
It's a pet.
unidentified
Oh, how about...
joe rogan
And they've let, so many people have let these things go.
And like how Florida has the python problem, they have this rat problem.
It's an invasive species.
bert kreischer
That's what it is.
We let go of one of those pythons in college.
joe rogan
Did you really?
bert kreischer
Yeah, we're part of that.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
You went to school in Florida too.
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scariest fucking day of my life.
We're moving out of that apartment and I'm, you know, how you move out and you've got clothes everywhere and I'm just digging my hands in and my buddy comes in the room and he goes, oh, keep a lookout for my python!
joe rogan
No way.
bert kreischer
And you're like, that's right.
We lost it in the middle of the year.
And it just was in our house.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
What do you mean we lost it?
bert kreischer
Okay, we got broken into by these dudes.
And we had dogs.
Me and my buddy Hartley had dogs.
My buddy Cheese had a python.
He put both his dogs...
joe rogan
Cheese.
unidentified
Cheese.
bert kreischer
Cheese, we used to fucking torture this dude.
unidentified
Really?
bert kreischer
Fucking greased up his brakes and went mountain biking one time.
Oh my god.
But we forgot about it.
We greased his brakes up and he didn't go.
And then two weeks later we go and we forgot we had greased him.
tom segura
She's died, man.
bert kreischer
So, yeah, these guys broke into our house, and she put our dogs in our rooms, and they broke into the house, and they let the fucking snake out.
They fucking broke into the house, stole all her shit, and let her snake out.
joe rogan
So you're not totally responsible for it.
Somebody else let the snake out.
tom segura
Yeah, I don't know.
Diaz, did you ever see a banana rat?
joe rogan
Wait a minute, how do you know they didn't just steal a snake?
bert kreischer
Because she's like, I don't know if it's been in there or not.
The fucking lid was open.
They looked for it.
I don't know.
brian redban
It probably ain't a loss.
joe rogan
What kind of assholes are allowed to buy snakes?
Any asshole like this.
bert kreischer
Anyway.
joey diaz
Irresponsible.
bert kreischer
Iquanas.
Savannah monitors.
I was into reptiles big time.
joey diaz
You got a pit bull.
I think that they should give.
You buy a pit bull, you need to take a GED. That's a prerequisite for it.
They're everywhere now.
joe rogan
They should definitely make you answer questions.
I've had them, and they're dangerous animals.
bert kreischer
I'll go a step further and say I don't think single women in their 30s should be allowed to adopt dogs.
joe rogan
Why do you say that?
bert kreischer
Because they have fucked up their life.
Now let's stop it there.
Let's cut it off there and not let them fuck up a dog too.
Have you ever seen a...
Look, I'm taking a stretch, and I know I'm saying something horrible.
joe rogan
Single women in their 30s?
bert kreischer
Yes.
Like mid-30s, like 35, when they go, that's it, I'm comfortable with being single, now I'm going to get a rescue dog.
And then you go hiking, and that dog goes after your kids, because they don't...
joe rogan
Are you sure that they're really comfortable with being single?
It's probably hard to find a good dude, man.
bert kreischer
Yeah, but have you never had those women that get the big dogs, and they're like, it's a rescue dog, this is my new project.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, they want some love.
bert kreischer
Yeah, exactly.
And then they don't fucking discipline it, and they just let it go fucking bananas.
joe rogan
There's definitely people like that.
bert kreischer
And you've got a psycho fucking dog.
joe rogan
And there's also, dogs get really protective of their owners, and if they sense that their owner might not be very dominant, maybe it doesn't have deep voice or something like that, the dog might be extra protective.
tom segura
Was your pit bull dangerous?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I had pit bull encounters where one dog killed one of my other dogs.
tom segura
What?
joe rogan
I came home in the middle of my living room.
One of my females killed my other female.
tom segura
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't have two female dogs together.
Female dogs, apparently, will always fight over dominance.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Whereas a male and a female, they accept, like, who's the boss.
Usually the male just lets the female, like, thap!
Jesus, leave me alone.
And, like, female snapper jaws, and the male, like, sort of gives up.
But the females never give up.
They never give up the position.
They'll fight to the death.
They fight and then they give up and they figure out who wins and who loses.
But then the one who lost wants to go about it again.
And they did it a couple of times.
And I thought I had gotten them over it.
I separated them and I did all sorts of different things.
And then I started letting them be together again because I thought they had gotten over it.
Because I felt like maybe it was just some...
It's so normal for that breed to get into fights.
They're beautiful dogs with humans.
They're beautiful dogs with humans.
But with animals, they have this incredible kill drive.
It's like nothing I've ever seen.
My dog killed two cats.
He killed squirrels.
He killed anything dumb enough to get in his yard.
And he would kill lizards all day.
Like, we had these lizards that would run around.
And that was his video game.
He would just run around with his paws on the wall trying to get these lizards.
Just running around the perimeter of my house trying to get lizards.
And in hindsight, I look back and I'm like, what a crazy animal to have.
You've got a monster.
You've got a monster that loves to attack things.
But he was a very particular type of dog.
He was a hog dog.
bert kreischer
From the Argentinian Mastiff.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
He was a pit bull.
bert kreischer
Yeah, like the ones in Hawaii.
joe rogan
Well, he was from Hawaii.
Yeah.
He was from Hawaii.
And they breed them to be super animal aggressive.
Because they're breeding them for hog hunting.
And so they have longer ears.
And the ears pick up more of a scent.
And they're larger dogs.
bert kreischer
He was crazy.
joe rogan
He was a beautiful dog, though.
He was awesome with people.
With people, he was the greatest thing ever.
He was awesome.
He was just an amazing buddy.
He was, like, super smart.
He always wanted to hang with you.
He always would be down to wrestle.
Like, I never felt in danger.
I used to do jiu-jitsu with him.
I'd take his back.
You know, I'd go, time to put the choker!
And he'd be like...
He would kiss me.
unidentified
I love you too.
joe rogan
I would be choking him and he would kiss me.
He was a sweet, sweet, sweet dog with people.
But with animals.
tom segura
So another dog came by?
joe rogan
He was not to be trusted.
It was the craziest thing.
It didn't have anything to do with socializing.
I socialized him with other dogs.
Right away he started fighting with other dogs.
One time he was a baby.
People yelled at me at a dog park when he was a baby.
He was like four months old.
He was trying to bite other dogs.
He was just gangster, like from the womb.
And I was a fool to try to control this animal as a pet.
You know, like my dog now, the big one, Johnny, he's the sweetest dog ever.
He's a sweetie.
Like my other dog that's a much smaller dog, the Shibu Inu Bulldog Mix, that dog tells him what's up.
And Johnny goes, alright, alright.
He's just like, relax, relax.
He just lets it all go by, you know.
tom segura
So you think they're born with it, though?
Just like people?
joe rogan
It's how they're bred.
tom segura
It's how they're bred.
joe rogan
Yeah, they encourage a certain type of animal aggression.
Aggression towards animals.
They encourage it.
They encourage fighting.
And it's been that way for thousands of years.
And the cruel aspect of the dog fighting, though, is what makes amazing dogs.
Because the ones that survived through that horrible ordeal, the genetics that were passed on, because the dogs that quit and the dogs that cowed and backed away from a fight were killed.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They were all killed.
That sounds horrible to us because we love our dogs.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
But they weren't looking at dogs like that.
They were looking at dogs as a way to make money.
And the way to make money...
I mean, you're talking about like this probably went on...
From maybe the turn of the century on.
I mean, it's probably something that's been going on even before that, if you could really get into the history of it.
But they bred dogs specifically for fighting.
They bred them specifically for that.
They had them on chains.
There's a dude that I know that was a famous pool player.
He used to keep 35 pit bulls.
He was this pro pool player.
35 pit bulls at his house.
They weren't his pets.
They were fighting dogs.
Crazy, man.
Yeah, craziness, man.
bert kreischer
I think Big Boy from OutKast used to do that.
joe rogan
Dude, that's a big part of the culture for a lot of those guys.
bert kreischer
He bred those dogs.
And he bred the bully ones that are stocky.
tom segura
He bred those?
bert kreischer
Oh, you never went to his website and looked at them?
They're expensive.
tom segura
Do you know Big Boy's website well?
joe rogan
In the world of fighting dogs, this is where it gets really squirrely, because it's not like I'm trying to glorify this world and give it morals or anything like that, but the reality is in the fighting dog world, you're not supposed to sell the puppies.
They're called puppy peddlers, and they're looked down upon.
You're only supposed to let your dog breed with really respectable breeds, so you're going to make some crazy killer dog.
And men will loan out their dog, and you see the lineage written down, like Rough Riders, Bronco, and Saddle Stables, Sheila E. And that's the dog's precedence, and they all know the championship bloodlines.
It's totally illegal to have dogfighting, but the shit has been documented very thoroughly.
It's the same thing with chicken fighting.
They have champion chickens.
I know a dude who raises chickens, and he fights them.
There's this old Mexican dude.
He's cool as fuck.
But that's his culture, man.
He grew up fighting chickens.
And this guy knows championship bloodlines, and they breed the right chickens with the right hens.
It's been a part of human history forever, but it's like in the shadows, in the darkness of our world.
And we don't want to admit that in 2000 and whatever it was, 9 or whenever when he got busted.
What year was that?
unidentified
2009?
joe rogan
Yeah, we never want to think that a guy who's capable of such great heights as being like this massively successful football player could also be capable of such an insane cruelty.
tom segura
It's so insane.
I gotta tell you, I love dogs.
Like, I mean, you know, you guys all did me huge solid doing the fundraiser for the dog last week, and I love dogs.
But I also have a problem with people who don't let somebody like him serve his time and then get another shot.
Like, earning a living again.
Because a lot of people, rightfully, were critical of what he did.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
But, you know, he lost his name.
He lost hundreds of millions of dollars.
joe rogan
Probably, right?
tom segura
Absolutely.
His contract was about the biggest at the time.
He had crazy endorsements.
He went to prison, which is what...
The punishment was he did it.
He went to prison.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did his time.
tom segura
And then a lot of people were really upset that he even has a chance to...
joe rogan
Make a living.
tom segura
Right, but it's like he paid the...
joe rogan
Well, how undeniable is his fucking talent?
The NFL's like, you know what?
Come on back.
Come on back.
You know why?
Because if they don't do it, someone else is going to do it.
Someone's going to grab that guy.
It really wouldn't be any other way to play football.
I mean, that's kind of a...
I mean, there's the NFL and basically that's it.
tom segura
That's it.
The B League is not really a league in football.
joe rogan
Black football, what is it?
Stadium.
joey diaz
Arena.
tom segura
There's arena.
unidentified
I played that for a day.
bert kreischer
Those dudes.
I don't know if they drugged us.
I mean, it's just fucking brutal.
tom segura
It's brutal.
bert kreischer
It's like being in the yard.
tom segura
Canadian football has some good athletes, for sure.
Good players.
But NFL is definitely the top of the line.
And he was a bad motherfucker.
joe rogan
Didn't Doug Flutie go to Canada first and play up there for a while before he came down to America?
He was the hero.
When I was in high school, Doug Flutie was like, I think I was in high school and he was in college.
unidentified
He was the hero.
tom segura
That's right.
unidentified
And then there was the USFL. He was very famous in Boston.
tom segura
He was, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, Flutie was super famous.
bert kreischer
Have you seen the 30 for 30 who killed the USFL? Yes.
Fucking great.
Donald Trump ruined that shit.
Just ruined it.
tom segura
He did.
All those are amazing.
That's the best programming ESPN or basically any cable network.
30 for 30. 30 for 30 documentaries.
joe rogan
What are they?
joey diaz
Stories that'll fucking kill you.
tom segura
The concept came up last year.
It was the 30th anniversary.
bert kreischer
Billy Corbin did the first one.
tom segura
That was about the U, right?
bert kreischer
Billy Corbin.
joe rogan
He's the guy who did...
joey diaz
Cocaine Cowboy.
He also did Broke.
tom segura
Yeah, Broke.
joey diaz
He did fucking Broke, which is amazing.
joe rogan
He's a cool fucking guy, too.
He came down to the Fort Lauderdale Improv and hung out.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
Cooking Cowboys is fucking amazing, too.
joey diaz
The U of M one, though.
tom segura
The U? Yeah.
joey diaz
The U, when he shows all the fucking Michael Irvin and those guys in front of clubs, and he goes, the Miami Dolphins used to ask the college guys to get them into the clubs.
tom segura
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
That's how insane it was.
If you watch the trailer to the U, you'll go like, fuck, this is the greatest thing.
joey diaz
What the fuck?
bert kreischer
I went to Florida State.
We hated them, and I fucking saw it.
tom segura
I was like, yeah!
joey diaz
It was a bunch of black gangsters with a white coat that told them, go out and be black gangsters, motherfuckers.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Whoa!
tom segura
Whoa!
joey diaz
When does a white guy go?
The blacker the better.
The blacker the better.
I want you to bring it back.
I want high fives.
I want fucking chains out there.
unidentified
High fives!
joey diaz
I want everything.
I want you to talk.
Fuck not celebrating.
I want everything.
I want you to fuck.
Fuckin' humiliate these motherfuckers!
And then the guy from Two Life Crew came on with his hoes.
He had a fuckin' VIP bag.
unidentified
Uncle Luke!
joey diaz
And they would come out to sweep me at home.
Hit my dick, I'm hard.
And those bitches knew what time it was.
And that's all...
Listen, there's two things that drive black people to different levels.
That's when they hear Two Life Crew and when they go to Red Lobster.
Black people lose their minds at Red Lobster.
Fuck Popeyes on Tuesday.
You go to Sacramento Red Lobster on Friday at about 4.30 when they blow the whistle.
Beep, beep, beep, blow the whistle.
Them sisters, they weigh 300 with the heels.
joe rogan
What are you showing over there?
brian redban
That's the trailer.
joey diaz
For what?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's the documentary?
bert kreischer
I don't know if that's the one for the U. Warren Sapp, he did Birth to Conquer with me.
joe rogan
Well, I gotta remember this and write this down.
joey diaz
Yeah, that motherfucker was giving out blood tests.
He was coming out positive and giving somebody else's.
joe rogan
This guy, they were smoking dope all the way to the NFL. Isn't it interesting that when you have football players and basketball players, they make rules on how they're allowed to celebrate.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Especially like the football thing.
Like you're not allowed to dance after you score a touchdown.
It's 100% because of black people.
tom segura
Yeah, and they're like, dude, you blacked it up plenty, so let's dial it back.
It really is.
joe rogan
This is a white man probably in Georgia, probably quite old, with a cigar, with a white suit.
bert kreischer
It's not a coincidence.
joey diaz
I love when people in the UFC go, well, the greatest trash talk is Chael Southern.
Listen, stupid.
There was a guy named Dexter the Molester.
Remember?
bert kreischer
Dexter Manley?
joey diaz
No, no, no, no.
The defensive back.
The defensive back that used to fucking screw Glazy Glue all over himself.
unidentified
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
bert kreischer
I know who you're talking about.
unidentified
You know who he is?
You know who he is?
bert kreischer
The guy who used to stick him.
For the readers.
And he had a stutter.
He had a stutter.
What?
brian redban
What?
joey diaz
He'd been brunt up with balls on his shoulder.
Because he'd been sprayed with Lester.
Lester and Molester would get in your ass, dog.
And just be up on you.
What?
There's a rule.
I gotta touch you five feet from the line of scrimmage.
He was banging you right from the line.
He come right up on your spitter.
What now?
What?
bert kreischer
What was that guy's name, Tom?
joey diaz
Lester Hayes.
tom segura
Lester Hayes.
unidentified
Lester the Molester.
joey diaz
Defensive backs.
Listen, Ronnie Lott.
Tell Joe Rogan about Ronnie Lott.
They told him he couldn't play in the game.
So they cut his finger off during the game.
Who the fuck gets his finger cut off during the game?
tom segura
He had caught his finger...
On a helmet.
He was like a cannonball.
joey diaz
A cannonball.
tom segura
He would just run and just total disregard for body.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
And this is before good helmets.
And he would just annihilate people.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
tom segura
He was the assassin.
And he got his helmet caught.
His finger.
His finger caught in a helmet.
Pinky.
And they went to the locker room and they were like, all right, well, you know, we're going to need these.
You're going to have to put like five stitches or whatever, 20 stitches in your finger.
He was like, no, I want to go back out there.
And they were like, well, you'll...
We'd have to cut off your finger for you to go back out there.
He was like, do it.
joey diaz
Do it, though.
tom segura
So just cut it off.
joe rogan
Half time!
Half time!
They could've fixed it?
tom segura
They could've fixed it, but he wouldn't be able to play the rest of the game.
joey diaz
He could've played that day.
bert kreischer
So he said, cut the fucking finger.
tom segura
It was already halfway through the game.
joey diaz
It was like a playoff and shit.
joe rogan
How much of the finger?
tom segura
Just like, so there's no, you don't see the nail.
joe rogan
Maybe that was an annoying part of his whole masturbation ritual, and he was secretly hoping to chew it away anyway.
joey diaz
I'll see you in 15 minutes.
tom segura
Okay.
bert kreischer
What am I coming in, Joey?
joe rogan
So right next door, you'll be able to get that on the Church of What's Happening Now, right?
Joey?
On iTunes, they'll be able to get yours with Bert, Church of What's Happening Now?
joey diaz
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's on iTunes.
bert kreischer
I was drunk.
joe rogan
One of the greatest storytellers the world has ever known.
unidentified
What?
bert kreischer
He called me when I was in New York and I was drunk.
I don't know what we're doing.
I didn't know if you were doing a stand-up show or a podcast.
joe rogan
Oh, you're doing a live podcast.
But then you're going to do our stand-up show.
bert kreischer
Yeah, yeah, then I'm doing that, yeah.
joe rogan
But why'd you say, oh fuck?
bert kreischer
I don't like live podcasts.
joe rogan
Well, it's an interesting one because it's a small room.
It's only like 50 people.
bert kreischer
I'm just going to sit there and giggle my fucking ass off at Joey.
You know what he said to me today?
We're driving in the car and he goes, and we're talking about health.
And he goes, ah dog, I went to the doctor today.
I dropped my pants and the doctor looked up at me and he goes, hey, you know you've got toilet paper on your dick.
joe rogan
He said that.
unidentified
Joey just passed through it and I was laughing so fucking hard I couldn't listen to the rest of the story.
bert kreischer
I go, Joey, why was there toilet paper on the end of your dick?
He goes, I had to wipe the helmet before I went in there.
joe rogan
I had to dab the helmet.
unidentified
I didn't notice a little piece of toilet paper hanging off the end of the day.
joe rogan
My dick sneezed a little.
tom segura
You know the answer, as Joey Diaz.
Hey Joey, what's your first pee of the day smell like?
joe rogan
Like Listerine and gunpowder.
unidentified
Like it got shot out of an alien's asshole.
bert kreischer
It looks like...
joe rogan
You know how your piss looks when you take too many vitamins?
I've got an answer to that.
tom segura
Oh my god.
Was it on your podcast that I was on that he said, you know, black people eat to talk?
bert kreischer
Oh, yes!
Black people sleep to talk?
tom segura
No, eat to talk.
bert kreischer
No, it was resting.
The only reason black people rest is so they can talk.
tom segura
Oh, rest to talk.
Rest to talk, yeah.
bert kreischer
What the fuck does that even mean?
joe rogan
Why did you let him do that to your dad?
bert kreischer
You were there.
tom segura
No, I wasn't there.
bert kreischer
Oh my god, it just happened so quickly.
joe rogan
Did your dad ask for them?
bert kreischer
No, Joey cracked them open.
joe rogan
He's a grown-ass man if he wanted one.
bert kreischer
He cracked them open and he goes, here you go, Mr. K. And just dumped some in my dad's hand.
And my dad goes, what is it?
And he goes, candy.
It's popcorn.
You'll like it.
My dad won't sit down.
My dad won't sit down.
I go, dad, there's marijuana in there.
And he goes, no, buddy.
It's good.
And I go, Dad.
And then Joey's laughing fucking hysterically.
I'm like, what are we going to do about this?
My sisters lost their fucking mind.
Everyone's like, oh my God.
And so, yeah.
But my dad was fine.
joe rogan
You can't do that.
tom segura
The photos are amazing.
bert kreischer
The photo is amazing.
joe rogan
You can't do that, right?
I don't agree with doing that at all.
brian redban
I did it to my own dad.
Remember?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's your dad.
bert kreischer
That's your dad.
Now, my dad would never say that he took it knowingly.
In my head, I'm like, there's no way Joey slipped it to him.
He must have said something.
joe rogan
Maybe your dad didn't know what the fuck Joey said.
And he's like, yeah, sure.
bert kreischer
Sure, buddy.
joe rogan
Probably his brain blacked out.
You want to get high with me, mister?
bert kreischer
Come on.
Mr. K. My dad's such a question.
joe rogan
Come on, cocksucker.
What are we doing?
bert kreischer
We're playing games?
joe rogan
Are we going deep?
I'm going deep.
unidentified
You going deep with me?
joe rogan
And your dad's like, I'll go deep with you.
bert kreischer
I'll go deep, yeah.
tom segura
That's exactly what happens.
joe rogan
A handful of pot cookies and he's wolfing down.
brian redban
He heard two of seven words and one was like, cookie.
Yeah, I'm a cookie.
joe rogan
How many times is when someone's talking to you and you're not even paying attention because you're thinking about something else and you're giving them a small percentage and you're trying to figure something out and you go, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what?
brian redban
Or like taxi drivers, you know, you just hear the main words.
joe rogan
Many, many times I've been distracted.
tom segura
My dad is the king of that, and I know when he's playing chess, I'll be like, what's up man?
He's like...
Yeah, I was doing shows.
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
And he's in front of the computer playing chess?
tom segura
Yeah, and I can tell he's like, hold on a second, hold on a second.
I'm like, alright.
He's like, so, what's going on?
I could be like, I robbed a bank today.
And he's like, wow, wow.
That's neat, buddy.
I'm like, you know what the fuck I'm saying right now?
And I go, what is it?
Fucking Rook Tonight something?
And he's like...
Yeah, play chess.
joe rogan
I know, man!
Is this on the phone?
tom segura
This is on the phone, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
tom segura
Call me back.
joe rogan
That's so fucking whack.
bert kreischer
You know Travel Channel Green?
They said they would pay for us if we want to do an adventure.
If they can air it.
They're like, if you guys want to do anything, we'll fucking pay for it.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
bert kreischer
I was sitting there.
We were talking.
We were just having dinner.
And they were asking questions.
They were just kind of getting hip to the podcast scene.
And they were asking questions about...
They're like, what is Death Squad?
And I was kind of...
joe rogan
Don't tell them.
bert kreischer
It's really ridiculous to try to explain.
joe rogan
You got to go...
bert kreischer
Yeah.
I was like, if you don't know, you don't know.
joe rogan
If you don't know, you don't know.
bert kreischer
And then they were like...
So these are all your buddies?
And they're like, yeah.
Do you ever want to do anything with them?
Like...
And I jokingly said, I said, yeah, we kind of...
I just said this, because Duncan had said it one time.
I go, we kind of want to take dugout canoes into the rainforest and see if we can find ayahuasca.
joe rogan
With our dads?
bert kreischer
No, just us.
Just us.
And so then...
joe rogan
So we were talking about dads.
bert kreischer
No, no, no.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
You know what?
joe rogan
How'd you get there?
bert kreischer
I have no fucking idea how my brain works.
joe rogan
This motherfucker just took us on an unrelated journey.
bert kreischer
I was thinking we should do a show where we all take our dads and go do shit.
And then in my head I was like, oh, I have a better idea.
joe rogan
You know what's fucked up?
He was actually talking about people that do that very thing earlier on the podcast.
tom segura
But in a very negative way.
joe rogan
In a very negative way.
It was about liars.
It was about how liars...
Not, not, not meaning that at all.
No, that's fine.
What he was talking about was about how, you know how some guys were going, so what do you guys want to go see the movies?
Wouldn't believe this, man, but I'm about to start a billion dollar a year business.
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Kind of crazy, but we're taking this from the ground floor, and Tommy was like, but you You make $10 now?
What the fuck are you talking about, man?
Well, you know, once we get the startup money, which is basically guaranteed...
tom segura
Yeah, I got a couple of investors.
I got an Italian investor, and I got one in Czech Republic.
joe rogan
And you're like, we were talking about what movie to go to see.
How the fuck did we get here?
bert kreischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what you kind of did.
bert kreischer
I just did that.
joe rogan
You did that.
bert kreischer
I did that actually almost exactly like that, too.
joe rogan
I was trying to think.
I was like, my dad doesn't want to be on TV. I was like, I don't know where he's going with this.
My brain does not.
He's like a normal guy.
He doesn't want to be on TV at all.
tom segura
My dad will be on TV. You're saying that?
joe rogan
I think your dad would enjoy it.
brian redban
My dad is hilarious.
joe rogan
Your dad is a fascinating guy.
My dad's a very nice guy.
He would be very polite and friendly with everybody.
tom segura
My dad would love to do this.
bert kreischer
Let's do a dad show then.
Let's take it back.
joe rogan
No, there's no way.
He would never do it.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
He has zero desire to be famous.
bert kreischer
Can we cast a dad for you?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can give me like a black guy.
I want a black guy.
bert kreischer
This is Joe's dad?
joe rogan
Yeah.
A black guy who's only a couple years older than me.
bert kreischer
Do I have to go?
tom segura
Like four years old?
joe rogan
Bernard Hopkins.
Like Bernard Hopkins plays my dad and no one even mentions it.
tom segura
The whole time.
joe rogan
And Bernard Hopkins refuses to admit it's him playing it on the show and afterwards in every interview I don't know what the fuck you're talking about that's not me but it is him.
We take Bernard Hopkins, we go fishing with him, I call him dad.
brian redban
But you have to listen to him at some point.
tom segura
Would he have good stories to tell us?
joe rogan
I have to listen to him.
He tells me whatever, you know, I'm listening.
He's my dad.
bert kreischer
It's like, and he has to bring back childhood memories?
It's like when Joe was a kid and he first learned how to ride a bike.
tom segura
That's what I wanted to do.
Like, Joe, I remember when I took Joe to the Holiday Inn.
You remember that, Joe?
joe rogan
He started making some shit about me.
This motherfucker's lying in his bed playing with chimpanzee dolls.
bert kreischer
Bernard Hopkins owns the right to the title, I am the machine.
joe rogan
What?
bert kreischer
I know.
Maybe that might be it.
I'll be right.
unidentified
I don't know.
Alright, I'm going to go to Joey Blackcast.
joe rogan
Get out of here, you fuck.
unidentified
I'll be back.
bert kreischer
I'll be back.
joe rogan
You've tarnished your reputation indelibly.
bert kreischer
Son of a word.
joe rogan
Later, brother.
We'll see you in a bit.
Burt Kreischer will be joining us tonight.
The sold-out Ice House Comedy Club show.
Along with this man that I'm talking to right now, Tom Segura.
tom segura
That was so exactly what we...
unidentified
And I wasn't thinking of him at all, but it was fucking perfect.
joe rogan
It was perfect.
Sort of, you know, but it wasn't...
tom segura
No, he wasn't.
He's not a crazy person.
joe rogan
No.
tom segura
But he does make me think what we were talking about, which is like...
A lot of times I go, how does fucking Bert's brain work?
I think that all the time.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
How did he get there?
Which you do when you're sitting around.
He's not even high though.
He didn't even get high.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
So he's got no goddamn excuse.
He just showed up and I just didn't know where he was going with the dad thing.
I was like, hmm.
Dance on vacation?
Adventure?
brian redban
Ayahuasca?
tom segura
But somehow those things do connect in his brain.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think he was just waiting for an opportunity to talk about doing another thing together.
I think it was more of that.
brian redban
I do want to go canoeing really bad.
Do you guys ever used to go canoeing?
joe rogan
Meanwhile, middle of the night, the fucking forest is on fire because Brian left behind one lit cigarette.
tom segura
Yeah, I don't want to go canoeing with you.
joe rogan
We're going to die up there in a river.
tom segura
Wait, what happened?
You spiked your dad?
You didn't finish that.
When did you do that to your dad?
joe rogan
Well, you told them you were doing it though, right?
Didn't you?
I mean, sure you did.
tom segura
Well, you brought it up!
brian redban
I just remembered.
Joe gave me this big bottle of pop soda that was made out of marijuana.
I had it in my fridge for a while and me and my fiancee at the time We were all recording ourselves because my dad was in town for the night.
And I think I put the camera down and then...
He's like, oh, I want to have some of this wine or champagne or whatever.
And I'm like, that's not champagne.
Okay, yeah, you can drink that.
And then I just let him drink it.
And then within a half hour or so, he just became so giggly and just laughing.
And it was really actually one of the coolest things ever.
joe rogan
Did he freak out at all?
brian redban
No, not at all.
He was just almost like a happy drunk buzz.
Wow, that's great.
Where he was just kind of giggling and laughing.
joe rogan
Did you ever tell him what happened?
brian redban
No.
tom segura
Never?
brian redban
He probably knows now.
joe rogan
But you should tell him because he would enjoy it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
I mean, maybe it'd be one of those things that he discovers late in life, like, wow, this makes life so much more enjoyable.
But you'd have to get it to him in that form, though.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
That's the coolest form.
The edible form is the best form, I think.
unidentified
The effects.
tom segura
I like it the most.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
Sorry.
joe rogan
As long as it's mild.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
As long as it's not, like, super strong.
The effects are, like, really pleasant.
tom segura
Super strong can break you.
joe rogan
Super strong is not good.
That's a terrible feeling.
It's like, oh, I'm just trying to relax and get through this day.
I don't need to be contemplating the fate of the fucking galaxy.
tom segura
Do you liken super strong to psychedelic?
Is that what happens?
joe rogan
Yes, very much so.
In fact, in a lot of the ancient Hindu writings, a lot of what they talked about...
Really extreme psychedelic experiences that they talked about were all from eating hash.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Eating cannabis, if you eat enough of it, you can have an experience that is every bit as strong as mushrooms.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
You just have to eat a lot of it.
tom segura
I've been moved to tears a few times.
joe rogan
I've had experiences in the tank, eating pot, that...
Are like a fucking ride in a movie.
Like an experience that you wouldn't believe.
If you didn't see it with your own synapses, if you weren't going through it, it seems impossible.
It's all just eating pot.
Eating pot and getting into a tank.
A tank filled with water.
But you have to eat that, you gotta get to that critical level where you feel like you eat too much.
That's where you gotta get.
You gotta get to that feeling where you're like, I fucked up.
I fucked up.
And that's when you can close your eyes and see nutty shit.
tom segura
Like, how much are you talking about?
joe rogan
Well, you see it in the dark.
See, that's when you see it.
Like, you don't see it if you open your eyes.
If you open your eyes, you're not gonna hallucinate.
It's not like it's gonna misinterpret visual cues and real information.
But what it will do is supercharge your imagination to the point where it can't deal with a blank slate.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
So when you eat the pot, you either close your eyes.
I've had this happen on planes before, where I ate a cookie before I got to the airport, and then while I'm on the plane, you're tripping your balls off.
When you close your eyes, in the darkness of your closed eyes, that's when your imagination starts firing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you start seeing wild, crazy, neon colors, like, fucking.
You start seeing, like, computer cartoon, Fractal shows.
It becomes very, very bizarre.
And that's just closing your eyes on a plane.
Inside the tank, it almost opens up another realm of experience.
It's very strange because in the absence of light, all this stuff flying through your brain sort of manifests itself as visual information.
You don't just get the feeling like, oh, life's slipping away.
You get that feeling when your eyes are open, but everything looks normal.
Everything looks a little faker and everything looks kind of two-dimensional, a little closer than it should be, but it still looks normal.
But when you close your eyes, then you get The fucking color show.
You get this madness and craziness in front of you.
tom segura
Yeah, I've had an absolute freaked out, oh my god, blowing my mind experiences eating it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you just have to eat it.
tom segura
What's the most you've consumed?
joe rogan
Well, this is what I was going to say.
There was a friend who made pills.
He made THC pills.
And I forget how he did it.
I forget what his process was of extracting the THC and putting it into the pill form.
But he told us very specifically, only take one.
He said, do not take more than one.
I only took one.
I listened.
Eddie Bravo took two.
Because Eddie Bravo was one of those silly bitches like, man, I can't even get too high.
It's impossible.
If I'm too high, you can't.
And it was unbelievably strong.
Just one.
I was like, where is this dude traveling every day?
This dude is going to crazy town every day.
And that's something that a lot of people are overlooking about this whole medical marijuana movement.
Everyone's focusing on smoking pot.
We don't want people smoking pot.
Well, the eating pot is five times stronger.
Five.
It's five times more psychoactive when you eat it.
And you're getting guys just loading up these cookies, loading up these candies.
And you can eat three or four of them before you even know what the fuck's going on.
And then an hour and 20 minutes later, you're on your deathbed.
I mean, you're freaking the fuck out.
tom segura
Like Yoshi.
brian redban
Yeah, like Yoshi.
tom segura
With the banana bread.
brian redban
Joey Diaz actually had a funny story from a long time ago when Listerine Strips first came out, pot Listerine Strips.
And they used to have little containers just like them, and...
He had a whole one and his friends were like, can I have one?
And he takes it out and they had all melted together.
And there were like nine strips that had melted together.
And Joey Diaz was just like, I guess that's it.
And then gave it to him.
joe rogan
Oh my god!
brian redban
And I guess the guy called the ambulance.
Of course he did.
It was just like ten times the amount of those.
Those are pretty strong.
tom segura
Those are super strong.
joe rogan
I used to take one half of those breast strips.
It's really hard to find them now.
They don't have them anymore.
But I used to take one half of one and that's all it took.
One half of one.
tom segura
You gave me that one time.
joe rogan
Jesus!
That was when we were headed to the East Coast.
We were on a red-eye.
I remember we both landed and you were like, that is the highest I've ever been in my life.
I go, right there on that plane?
You go, right there on that plane.
I go, what was that like?
You go, that was an adventure.
tom segura
Yeah, it was.
And I also remember that I was by no means not high anymore when I said that.
And I felt like, like 11 hours later, I was like, still kind of feeling it right now.
Like, yeah, dude, that shit kicked my ass.
That was unbelievable.
joe rogan
And that was only a half.
tom segura
I can't imagine taking more than that.
I actually started after that.
I realized that, like, for me to not have that feeling, a quarter.
Of a strip was better.
You know what I mean?
Like, I could function on a quarter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Not on the half, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I hear you, man.
brian redban
I don't like eating anymore.
I had one the other day, and I didn't think I felt it the whole night.
Like, I took it around 8 o'clock, around 11 or 12. I was like, alright, I guess that was just a shitty edible.
Then I couldn't go to bed, and it started, like, my heart started going crazy.
I was like, alright, now it's starting right now.
It's like 1 in the morning.
joe rogan
How long did it take to kick in?
brian redban
Four or five hours almost.
joe rogan
You gotta go to the doctor.
You got some blockage somewhere, son.
That doesn't even make sense.
brian redban
Four or five hours.
joe rogan
Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
You just defied logic.
You defied science.
You broke medicine.
brian redban
Yeah.
I couldn't go to sleep, though, for, like, hours.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe it just took you a while to realize you were high.
Or were you, like, caffeined up?
Maybe it was having a hard time getting in there?
brian redban
Yeah, I think I had too much other food in my stomach, maybe, and it just took a while to digest it.
joe rogan
That's another possibility.
If you ate something heavy, right?
If that's behind it, does that happen?
Does it work like that?
tom segura
I think so.
joe rogan
Totally, right?
Yeah, it was like busy.
brian redban
Your body has to break it down and it doesn't get to it.
joe rogan
We're totally unscientific when it comes to understanding of the digestive system.
tom segura
And you know what I'm saying?
The juices break it down.
unidentified
The brain juices break it down.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think we were right about that.
But yeah, I think if anybody should be concerned about experiences, it's the eating it.
Because I don't want anybody to have bad trips, man.
Bad trips steer people away from weed.
And you don't get anything out of those bad edible trips either.
Because they usually come when you don't expect them.
Like, they come when you're trying to go to a movie, have a pot cookie with your friends, go to a movie, and giggle.
And the pot cookie, way too fucking strong!
And everybody just wants to go home.
You just gotta get out of there.
Everybody wants to leave.
tom segura
Well, panic is never a good time.
And that's what it is.
You are in, like, you have super anxiety going.
At least I do.
And that's not like, That's not fun, man.
You don't go.
That was really cool the way I panicked for my life for a few hours, you know, just from sitting there.
joe rogan
When I was in full panic mode, okay, from taking this one pill, when Eddie Bravo had taken two, I was in full panic mode and I was talking to this dude.
And the dude I was talking to was a very high-level jujitsu guy who also apparently was a rapist.
And while I was talking to him, I'm so high.
I mean, I'm just...
I'm so high.
I really shouldn't be talking to anybody.
But while I'm talking to this guy, I'm like, man, this guy is a fucking killer.
Like, he's got this just feel about him.
Like, he feels super dangerous.
You know, he's like a really high-level jiu-jitsu guy, but he also feels like, wow, like, if you were alone in the woods with this guy, you know, and you'd gone for a few days without food, he might fucking eat you.
And then...
Later after that had happened, it turned out that he was a rapist.
He got arrested.
But he didn't get arrested right away.
He fleed.
And the way they caught him was he started doing jiu-jitsu again.
He couldn't stop doing jiu-jitsu.
And he started doing jiu-jitsu at a new gym.
And he didn't realize how obvious it is that he's like a super high-level guy.
There's not that many high-level guys.
I mean, there are quite a few.
But I mean...
Maybe there's hundreds, but the people in the jiu-jitsu world are pretty much aware of a guy that's that high level.
And this guy was just tapping everybody, including their best black belts.
And everybody's like, okay, what the fuck?
Who is this dude?
And he says he's from Brazil, and so someone's got a picture of him or something.
And they went, oh my god, that's that guy.
And he's wanted for rape.
He couldn't go on the lam and not do jiu-jitsu.
tom segura
That's incredible.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe they would have got him anyway.
I don't know.
tom segura
There's two things I've got to have.
It's jujitsu and raping people.
I've got to be able to do both of those things to be a happy guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, he gave off this weird, dangerous energy.
Especially when you're that cranked out on the wrong side of the pot rainbow.
I was in a never world.
I was in the world of fairies and elves and dwarves and monsters.
Dragons in the night.
tom segura
Well, that's the thing.
If you're having that type of experience on the trip, and you've eaten too much, and you happen to be in a not cool environment, like if you're in an already dangerous situation, oh my God.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Hostility.
Somebody get us home.
Please, God, get us home right now.
Get us out of here.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's bad spots in the world.
Imagine eating a pot cookie and going to Karachi.
Being in the middle of Pakistan.
Watching people pull up with mopeds and gun people down.
tom segura
Did you see that on Vice?
The dangerous border one?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
It's fantastic.
joe rogan
Amazing.
tom segura
What an amazing, amazing access.
joe rogan
We had Shane in here.
He was telling us about Karachi and how insane it is.
tom segura
That looks insane.
joe rogan
Millions of people all in this one giant city.
tom segura
I think it's 20 million there, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, something crazy.
tom segura
That's a lot of people.
joe rogan
And crimes just running amok.
tom segura
And then they hate their neighbors so much.
And they are hated so much.
joe rogan
Dude, it's so crazy.
The way he described it to me, he's like, it literally is like the scariest place on Earth.
Like, you can't believe it exists.
It's like the apocalypse in a city, and it's there right now, and nobody's talking about it.
Nobody even thinks about it.
When you talk about dangerous places, people talk about, like, Detroit.
Detroit is not nearly as dangerous as Karachi.
tom segura
Have you had Kumail on?
Have you ever had him on the show?
Kumail Nanjiani?
joe rogan
No, who's that?
tom segura
He's a comic from Pakistan, from Karachi.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa.
tom segura
He's a really good comic.
joe rogan
Where's he from?
In America?
Does he live in L.A.? He lives in L.A. He came over when he was 19. How do you say his name again?
Kumail Nanjiani.
tom segura
He's a really, really good comic.
Like, really good.
brian redban
We had him on a mom's cast a long time ago, right?
tom segura
A long time ago.
I mean, he's very successful.
Like, he does very well.
Yeah?
I mean, he just did an hour special.
He's acting in, like, all kinds.
Like, he does really well.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
tom segura
And he's, like, he's a super, really, like, the thing that I was obsessed with when I had him on was that he didn't, like, he grew up there, and he didn't, like, watch stand-up growing up.
And he came into college at 19, and he's so good at it that I'm like, yeah, but I still understand how you're good at it.
Because, like, how has your sense of humor developed?
You started at, like, basically 19, like, being exposed to this at all.
And he's, like...
Exceptionally good at it.
So you see like he just has such a command of doing stand-up, like everything.
Like really insightful, smart, really good writer, performer, so funny.
And I just am fascinated at his whole background, his whole story.
joe rogan
Yeah, that is interesting because there are cultures that do not have stand-up comedy, right?
tom segura
Yeah, he definitely didn't have it.
joe rogan
They all have some sort of public gathering where someone gets to talk.
But for entertainment, I mean, how many places have...
tom segura
It's just breaking out in some parts of the world now.
I know in a lot of Spanish-speaking countries, there are clubs now and a stand-up show, even for television, but they don't have the basically 80, 100-year history that we have of it coming from the Catskills and it being...
Like, a thing that has different genres.
You know what I mean?
It's newer.
joe rogan
Well, it was invented here.
It was most certainly invented here.
But there's a lot of confusion or a lot of questioning as far as who invented it.
I mean, who the fuck invented it?
Is there anyone who is like...
the godfather of stand-up?
tom segura
That's a good question.
joe rogan
Because stand-up sort of became stand-up with Lenny Bruce.
Because before that, it was like a lot of guys that would share jokes, and they would do the same sketch for 20 years, and they would go perform in the Catskills, and they would all steal each other's material and shit.
They were like people in show business, almost like you would think of a contract studio person from like the 1940s and 50s.
You know, you think of those people that had contracts with the studio and did all those studio movies.
Well, these guys kind of were that.
They were like, it was a different kind of comedy.
And then Lenny Bruce came along, and all of a sudden he starts talking about real shit.
And all of a sudden he starts breaking down our use of language, and why do we have to say this, and talking about real scenarios in the home, and like, whoa, that was the birth.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, if you go over to my house, there's all these Lenny Bruce posters everywhere.
It's not like I listen to Lenny Bruce a lot.
I mean, I certainly have.
It's not like it even holds up to this day, because it really doesn't.
It's really hard to laugh at Lenny Bruce's stuff.
It's hard to put yourself into that mindset of the people that lived during the 1950s and the 1960s.
But if you could, if you could go back in time, you would be blown away.
I'm sure of it.
I'm sure his...
Point of view was probably so incredibly unique at the time.
And his insight, you know, his jokes, some of his jokes today are great jokes.
He had this joke about homosexuality being illegal.
So what they do is they arrest you and they put you in jail with a bunch of men who want to have sex with you.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it's a good joke.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, it's funny in 2013, and he probably told that in the 50s.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Where people were like, what?
tom segura
It never hurt anything like that.
joe rogan
The fuck did he just say?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, Lenny Bruce went to jail for it.
He went to jail for using bad words.
People don't understand that that is in this past century.
People have been locked into cages for saying naughty words.
Not even threatening.
Not like saying, I'm going to blow up this plane.
Not words like that.
But a word like fuck or a word like shit or tits or something like that.
They locked him in cages.
tom segura
You're going to jail now.
joe rogan
They drained his money, ruined his career.
tom segura
Jesus.
joe rogan
Yeah, that and the smack.
That's the other thing we need to learn from a guy like Lenny.
Stay away from the smack, my friend.
It seems like nobody gets through the smack okay.
tom segura
Nobody does.
There's no recovery from that.
joe rogan
I had a buddy who had a hard time kicking it.
He, in a pill form, he hurt his back.
And the doctors immediately, of course, gave him heroin.
That's what the OxyContin says.
They gave him OxyContin.
And he was like, dude, he goes, it was magical.
He goes, it cured all the pain.
He goes, I didn't, it wasn't even that fucked up when he was on.
He goes, I was just, he goes, it just stopped the pain.
You know?
But then, coming off of it, he had to take some other drug.
It's my friend Tommy Jr., if he's listening right now.
Powerful Tommy Jr. And they just give them to you, man.
When you get hurt, like, I know guys who were junkies and went to the doctor and, you know, they give them pain medication.
And, you know, that's a dangerous trip.
Like, you're getting high.
Like, mark it down, because here it comes.
You know, do you like being sober?
You like keeping your shit together?
Don't take that.
That's no bueno.
You know?
tom segura
You take that pill too, the painkillers with a beer?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Ooh, that's a whole other ballgame.
brian redban
Most people do.
Yeah.
It's like super common.
tom segura
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
You're not supposed to, right?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Isn't Xanax a really bad one to take with alcohol?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I saw a lady do it on a plane.
She was laughing about it.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's getting high.
She's getting high.
Just a glass of wine in my Xanax and I'm good to go.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And she was like laughing.
unidentified
Ha ha!
joe rogan
She puts her fucking goggles on.
unidentified
Ha ha!
joe rogan
See you later.
Just drooling on the chair.
Yeah, she was letting everybody know she was abusing drugs.
tom segura
Yeah, that's because she was getting high for sure.
joe rogan
But if I let them know, if I said, listen, I took a pot cookie an hour before this flight, I'm out of my fucking head right now, kids.
tom segura
We're going to go back to the gate, guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're going to turn this thing around and land it in the desert.
Get this fucking criminal off.
tom segura
Get this pot monster off of our plane.
joe rogan
You asshole.
What were you thinking about?
I was thinking about fingering girls in high school.
What was that all about?
tom segura
Ah, just having that flashback.
joe rogan
The excitement.
The first time we touched a moist vagina, like, holy shit, I'm in there!
I'm in there!
And girls that would grab your dick, and some girls wouldn't.
brian redban
Did you have those girls that everyone would pass around during movies, like when they had the projectors out, and then she'd be like, oh, we got the finger!
joe rogan
Some girls, yeah.
There were some girls that would just let dudes finger them.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good thing.
That's just a balance.
tom segura
Sometimes you need your pussy fingers.
joe rogan
It's a balance to this universe.
And it's not necessarily a good thing that those girls are so needy that they're doing that.
But there's a cause and effect.
And it's not her fault.
That's what people have to realize.
Whenever girls do really overreaching things to get attention, it's because they didn't get enough attention.
It's really that simple.
Or they got the wrong kind of attention.
They got fucked up.
And it's not their fault, man.
And that's something that takes a long time to figure out.
tom segura
You don't realize that for a while.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
I mean, people just sort of judge people by what they see.
And that's one of the more interesting things about having children is you start judging people by how they became that thing.
How did you get to be this angry, really deceptive, shitty, selfish person who's ruining lives and stealing from people?
How does a person get to be a murderer?
How does a person get to be a robber who breaks into people's houses when you know they're not going to be around?
How do you get to be that person?
Well, a bunch of shit has to go wrong.
There's a bunch of people who have to fail you.
You started off nothing but potential.
That's what a person is.
Nothing but potential.
And that is the number one thing that we don't pay attention to.
And it's the number one thing that's fucking up this world.
Is that people are raised by people that don't have any idea how to raise the most complex thing ever.
A developing human being.
It's the most complex thing we know of.
It's a thing that literally can create an atomic bomb that can blow up the fucking world.
That's how powerful the human mind is.
And you're leaving it to assholes.
You're leaving it to a bunch of people that have no idea how to raise a person correctly and weren't raised correctly themselves.
So I have all sorts of baggage that they're carrying into this relationship between mother and daughter and father and son.
You know...
Most people have no idea how the fuck they got into the place they're at right now.
They live their life on momentum.
And raising a human when you're stuck on momentum and screaming at people in traffic and calling your wife a cunt and kicking your dog.
And now you got a baby.
This guy has a baby.
Now what happens?
Now this baby's fucked and he's being raised by a shithead.
And that's most of what's going on in the world.
Most of the problems is a lack of compassion.
And a lack of compassion from birth to adulthood.
And it's so common.
And it's not being addressed.
Nobody talks about it.
Everybody wants to talk about oil.
Everybody wants to talk about oil.
What do we do when we run out of oil?
What will we do when peak oil becomes a problem in this country?
When will we step up and learn?
But nobody looks at the number one commodity that humans have to offer.
That's humans.
Our best commodity is humans.
And the more potential that you can have in that commodity, the better the world would be for everybody.
But the problem is that the people that have billions of dollars are a bunch of cunts.
and they want to hold on to that money with their greasy, old, moisturizing cream, fucking leather hands because they've had it their whole life and they've been in this position of privilege and they understand what it takes to make $16 billion.
How many people I had to pay off?
You know, how many lobbyists I had to bribe?
You know, I earned this fucking boat, you know?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's the extreme form of, you know, the wrong parts of the competitive aspects of capitalism.
tom segura
Did you see Queen of Versailles?
joe rogan
No.
What is that?
tom segura
Oh my god.
joe rogan
What is it?
tom segura
It's a documentary.
It's so fucking funny.
joe rogan
You're not the first person to say it.
What is it about?
tom segura
It's about the guy who, he started, it's the world's biggest time shareholder company.
Westgate, I think it's called, or it was called something like that.
I think it's Westgate.
Anyways, a few years ago, he went about building the largest home in the United States.
It was 90,000 square feet, I think.
90,000 square feet.
And it was modeled after Versailles, the palace in France.
And he just so happened to be doing this, and the documentary crew was filming him, you know, for this purpose.
And it happened in 08 when the market crashed.
joe rogan
They had a lion?
tom segura
Oh my God, he has a throne.
unidentified
I'm a 43-year-old mother of eight.
I thought she was the most beautiful girl in the world.
It took me a while to fall in love with him.
Whoa.
We have a great relationship.
There's 30 years between us.
But he doesn't need Viagra.
At least there is that option if he does.
Like, I don't know if 10 years from now.
We never sought out to build the biggest house in America.
It just kind of happened.
bert kreischer
It's bigger than the White House.
Two tennis courts.
unidentified
30 bathrooms.
Full-size baseball field.
10 kitchens.
Antique furniture.
90,000 square feet.
Oh my God!
No, that's not my room.
That's my closet.
No way!
Nothing's really normal about this life.
We're in line to do a billion dollars in sales for the year.
tom segura
We're on top of the world.
unidentified
And it came to a screeching halt.
The market fell over 700 points.
I would say it's touch and go right now.
We don't talk about financial problems.
I guess I'll have to watch the movie to find out what's going on in my life.
joe rogan
Everything changes.
bert kreischer
This is almost like a riches to rags story.
unidentified
She knows we need to cut back, but she's still compulsive.
What home is it now?
Well, if I could afford a watch, I would tell you.
Bankers are like vultures.
Our big problem is Vegas.
Our lenders have made it very clear that he'll have more money than he knows what to do with.
bert kreischer
He can go back to building his house if he turns over this building.
Go for my dead body.
unidentified
You can buy the palace that timeshare mogul David Siegel already wants to sell.
Just think of the bright side.
You might not have to clean this house.
The American dream is raising way up above what you started with and that is what she has done.
When you're down is when you find out who your true friends are.
You get strength from your marriage?
tom segura
No.
unidentified
I'm in this fantasy world, you know.
It's phenomenal.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
She is completely oblivious to how she...
joe rogan
How she comes off?
tom segura
Well, when they start having to make cutbacks, their cutbacks are things like, we're not flying private, we're flying, you know, commercial.
And she picks up one of her kids, they land, and she picks up her kid at the airport, and she's like, What do you think of flying commercial?
Was that crazy?
And the kid's like, I don't even know what you're talking about.
They're just planes, right?
She's like, yeah, commercial.
They go to rent a car to visit her friend at the airport, and they're at Hertz.
And then she's like, so will the driver meet me out front, or how does this work?
And he's like, this is Hertz.
Rent a car?
And she's like, what is that?
There's no driver?
And he's like...
No, you're the driver.
You're renting a car right now.
She's like, okay, I just, I don't know.
All right.
Whoa.
brian redban
That's pretty funny.
tom segura
That removed from society where she's living in such a fantasy world.
joe rogan
How much money did a homeboy lose?
tom segura
I mean, nine figures, for sure.
unidentified
Nine figures.
tom segura
For sure.
Yeah.
But he's been...
joe rogan
That's like $100 million.
tom segura
Yeah, so over $100 million, for sure, of personal wealth.
joe rogan
Stop and think about that.
Nine figures.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
tom segura
Yeah, he lost a substantial amount of money.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
tom segura
And then...
Basically, what happened was his business is a luxury business, but it's a luxury for the middle class.
So timeshares are something where it's like, if you have a good job, you can more than pay your bills, you can afford to do something like, let's go to Disney World this year, or let's go to Vegas.
But they sell you on, well, you can afford to do this.
And it's people who have that extra money, some disposable income, but not super wealthy.
joe rogan
So what does it mean when you have a timeshare?
Does it mean you have this month and I have that month?
tom segura
It's exactly like that.
It's like you get to come to this awesome timeshare, whichever, let's say you like Vegas.
You have the timeshare in Vegas.
And two weeks out of every year, maybe...
You get to pick your month.
If you pay more or sometime during the year, let's say every July, you get your Vegas place.
It's yours, and it's fully furnished, and it's awesome.
joe rogan
But other people have the keys to it.
tom segura
Yes.
joe rogan
Who are the other people, though?
tom segura
People who, like you, signed up for this service.
joe rogan
They're not like your friends.
tom segura
You can't pick them.
No, it's total strangers.
brian redban
But there is a property manager that's on site that holds the keys for you, and then you have to go through him.
Oh, I see.
tom segura
You're basically...
joe rogan
It's in a hotel, then.
unidentified
It is.
tom segura
You're paying to go back to the same place and be like, this is my shit.
But, you know, it's not really.
joe rogan
And you don't keep a TV there, and you don't keep a stereo there.
tom segura
I mean, it's probably, I'm sure, furnished with all that stuff, though.
But what happened was...
joe rogan
It's probably, for a lot of people, more comfortable than going to a hotel.
tom segura
Definitely.
joe rogan
And probably better, like, if you can eat healthy food.
brian redban
My families do it all the time.
tom segura
That's the thing, is that...
joe rogan
Go to a supermarket and shop like you're at home.
tom segura
And you can get a way higher end place than you would...
If you were renting the equivalent at a hotel, you're not going to get a three bedroom suite like you're going to get at your timeshare.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
How much do you have to pay a year?
tom segura
I don't know.
brian redban
It's not that much.
It's probably...
The one I went to, because I actually got suckered in doing one of those.
joe rogan
You did it?
You had a timeshare?
brian redban
When I was 18, my stupid roommate, he was like, hey, I want a vacation.
And I'm like, oh, that's so perfect that Brian did.
And then so we went to Florida.
He's like, all we have to do is find a way to Florida, and then we have five days in the Bahamas.
And I'm like, fuck yeah.
So we get there, and we had to fly, like spend our own money to fly to Florida, or we could have drove there.
And then we get there, and then the first day we checked in to this hotel.
It was all paid for.
I was like, this is sweet.
He was like, all right, well, we've got to go to this condo thing.
We have to just do this little thing for a couple hours.
Seminar.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
brian redban
And he totally did not tell me that we had to do this every day, like for two hours.
unidentified
Every day?
brian redban
Yeah, except for the last two days.
joe rogan
How many days were you there for?
brian redban
I think five days.
What?
So every day, they just went to a new level of trying to...
And every day, I would say the same thing.
I'm like, I'm 18. I was like, do you really think I can do this?
How'd you even get me here?
joe rogan
So every day, what were they saying to you?
brian redban
They would show us the condas, which they were all amazing, but they would walk us around.
And then the next day, we'd go to a different part of...
At the time, it was Florida.
What happened is the last two days, it was in Bahamas.
He didn't tell me that either.
He's just like, five days in the Bahamas.
It was in Pompano, Florida the whole time.
So he just went to all these different condo places in Pompano.
And they were like, this is the so-and-so place.
joe rogan
So it was in the Bahamas?
brian redban
Not the first three days.
The last two days.
joe rogan
The last two days, they fly you to the Bahamas?
brian redban
You take a boat cruise thing over to the Bahamas.
joe rogan
How long does that take?
brian redban
Like three hours.
joe rogan
You can get to the Bahamas on a boat in three hours?
brian redban
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
Wow.
brian redban
Yeah.
And so then, but what sucked is like every day they tried to get you to sign this contract.
And it was like fucking like hardcore.
Like they were like, no, you need to sit down here and talk, you know?
And I'm like, look, I don't...
joe rogan
Were these young guys?
Who were the guys that were trying to talk to me?
brian redban
No, these were older people, you know?
joe rogan
It's like, what were they saying to you?
brian redban
They were like, do you understand?
You're at the perfect age.
I'm sure you're a credit.
This would be a good investment in your life because you can rent this out, sub-rent it out, and you will always have this really cool place in the Pompano's or whatever.
joe rogan
Also telling you if you don't use it for the weeks that you get it, you could rent it out.
brian redban
You could rent it out to other people and make a profit from it.
joe rogan
Actually, it's going to cost you this, but you could rent it.
brian redban
Right, exactly.
I want to say it was probably...
Something like you paid once a huge chunk of money.
I want to say it was something ridiculous like $10,000.
And then every year you pay a maintenance fee or something like that that's like $200.
I want to say it's something like that.
joe rogan
So it's a top-heavy sort of thing.
brian redban
Yeah, definitely top-heavy.
And they were saying, look, we have the best financial...
We are friends with the people at the bank.
We will get you the best rate that we can get you for 20 years to divide that 10,000 out to probably 30,000 after finance charges.
It's a scam.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's one of those scams that's been around for a long time though, the high pressure marketing scam.
It's like a legit scam.
You're allowed to do that.
That kind of high pressure shit, if you're socially awkward or weird, you could really crack people with that.
brian redban
I was just getting really pissed.
We had to pay for all the tax of all the hotels that we stayed at.
At the end, they were like, you owe $800 in taxes.
Back then, Ohio days, we both had to pay $400 or something like that.
That was a shitload of money.
That drained my bank account.
I only had $300, so my roommate gave me the extra $100.
And then I never paid him back because I was like, look, dude, that was bullshit.
I'm sorry that you did not tell me any of this.
You said we had a free vacation.
I'm sorry, but you made me spend an extra blah, blah amount of money.
And so we stopped talking ever since then.
And then we became enemies for a long time.
Just because over $100.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny how something like that go wrong?
You can just decide that that person's your enemy.
You fucked me out of $100.
brian redban
It's just bullshit, man.
It was like...
joe rogan
It's definitely bullshit.
brian redban
Not a vacation.
joe rogan
Well, you know, it's also – they would probably have to pay you a lot of money to make you sit there and listen to those people.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
And in the end, what you did spend, you probably could have done almost the same thing with your $400 or whatever the hell it would have cost.
I mean how much can you go to like on the cheap to the Bahamas for and stay in the cheapest place possible?
brian redban
I bet you we ended up spending more money.
joe rogan
You might have.
Between the two of you?
Have you both got a two-bedroom, a hotel room?
brian redban
That's another thing.
The hotels were just like...
That was one thing I said.
It's three and a half or above hotel.
It was very borderline.
It was like Courtyard at the Marriott.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
brian redban
I've got to tell you.
tom segura
One thing about...
I think it happens the older you get, too.
I will not compromise...
On certain shit, like certain...
joe rogan
Toilet paper?
tom segura
Well, like, just certain, like, hey, man, do you want to go see this shit and backpack with, like, eight people, but we'll see something awesome.
Like, nah, man, I don't want to do that.
Like, if I... I'm not saying I have to have four seasons.
I can't afford to do that.
I'm basically not going to take a trip if I can't do it at least at a level that I'm comfortable with.
joe rogan
You know what though, man?
I agree with you most of the time, but I went on that show Meat Eater and we went camping for five nights in the Missouri Breaks.
tom segura
But that's a trip you want to do that.
You want that experience.
If that experience were presented to me, I would consider that for what it is.
But I met a dude who was like, yeah, I've been to the Bahamas.
I went on a mail boat, bringing mail over, and slept with basically the mail carrier and the letters.
And I was like, nah, dude.
brian redban
I don't want to do that.
The problem with that is, though, I'm the same way.
I'm kind of grumpy the older I get.
tom segura
Of course.
brian redban
But, you know, I went on this trip to Joshua Tree where we stayed in this, like, little RV. And I was so against it.
I'm like, look, you know, I want to go to Joshua Tree, but I don't want to stay in some shitty RV in the middle of some campground.
Like, why can't we just stay somewhere?
And I was being a bitch about the whole thing until we got there.
And it ended up being the coolest adventure ever.
Like, I would never have done it.
This girl I know wants me to go camping with her.
I'm doing the same thing.
I know if I go, I might have a great fucking time.
joe rogan
You'll probably have a great time.
brian redban
I'm just being grumpy.
tom segura
That's again a specific experience, I think, though, too.
It has the group...
Like, the croup experience in mind going into it is going something like that.
If somebody goes, hey man, do you want to go to Paris right now?
And you're like, okay.
And they're like, now we're going to stay at this place.
Well, you won't have your own room or bathroom, but if you get the key from the front desk, I'd be like, you know, I'll wait on Paris for a little while so that I can, you know, stay in my own room or something.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm not...
I don't want to exactly...
joe rogan
And the lack of sleep you're going to get.
Sleep is what I'm going to do.
Because you know he's snoring.
And you know you're snoring.
He's going to wake you up.
It's going to be a goddamn disaster.
Last time I slept with a dude, it was my friend Gary.
He was coming to LA. Please cut that into a ringtone.
Last time I slept with a dude, he came to stay with me and he didn't have enough money for a hotel.
He was out here doing some shit from New York.
He's a comic as well.
You know Gary Valentine?
Yeah, of course.
Kevin's brother.
And this motherfucker.
I never heard anybody snore like this before.
unidentified
It's crazy!
tom segura
It's crazy, right?
joe rogan
It was crazy.
In the middle of the night, I had a geppo and go, are you fucking kidding me?
But this is when we were kids.
We were both in our early 20s.
It's like in the early 90s.
tom segura
A couple years ago, I stayed at the West Palm Beach.
It was a condo.
And I was down there, and my buddy Chuck came to town.
Chuck's 6'5", like 290. Big, big dude.
And he was like, yo, can I crash?
The condo has like a...
Whatever, bedroom and living room.
I was like, yeah, he goes, lays in the bed, and like before I even can sit down, I hear him like not just snoring, but he also grinds his teeth.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
tom segura
And it sounded like a monster was doing it.
He's like such an enormous person.
I laid on the couch in that condo with my noise-canceling headphones.
A shirt over my eyes and a mouth guard in my mouth so that I didn't snore.
And he came out and he was like, what the fuck are you doing?
I'm like, it's you, man.
You came to visit and now you've ruined my night.
That's what happened.
brian redban
Fuck that.
joe rogan
Yeah, snoring is gross.
brian redban
The grinding thing is the worst.
tom segura
It's scary sounding.
Oh, it is.
joe rogan
Why do people do that?
They say it's stress or whatever.
unidentified
I don't know.
brian redban
I'm a clincher.
Like, the dentist said, like, no, that's actually okay.
You clinch.
That's why you have really strong...
joe rogan
Many of my teeth are cracked from weightlifting.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Really?
tom segura
Your teeth are cracked from that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
You must be throwing up some serious weight, man.
joe rogan
I'm a very strong person.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Tommy James.
My man.
But yeah, he told me to wear a mouth guard when I lift weights.
tom segura
No shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's probably years of hitting the bag as well.
I don't hit the bag with a mouthpiece on.
When you bite down, when you're really digging into something, you actually lose a lot of power if you don't bite down.
It's really strange.
I don't understand it.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it doesn't seem like you can hit as hard when your mouth is open.
It's like your whole body needs to work together as you explode out on impact.
And when your mouth is open a little, I think there's a lack of power to that.
It's kind of strange.
But it's very difficult to get a full amount of power and explosive energy when you have your mouth open.
They actually did tests on it, and I think it was the basis of one of those mouth guards they had.
They had this power guard where they proved that if you bit down on it, it would actually increase the amount of weight you could lift.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Like they aligned your jaw in a certain way that increased the amount of power that your body had.
I don't understand that.
I don't know why that would be the case.
But for some reason, you can't hit as hard when your mouth's open.
tom segura
That's really interesting.
I know breathing can affect how you...
Yeah.
Holding your breath versus breathing related to a lot of physical things makes a huge difference.
joe rogan
Huge difference, yeah.
tom segura
And being able to sustain an in and out breath versus holding your breath.
joe rogan
That's one of the biggest issues in jujitsu.
tom segura
Is breathing?
joe rogan
Is learning how to breathe right.
And that's why the best guys are all really into yoga.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And pranayama and learning breathing techniques and stuff like that.
Yeah.
Because if you can control your breath, and your diaphragm is a muscle that you can control much like you can control your arms or your legs.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there's certain guys, like there's this dude Hicks and Gracie.
He's like the greatest jiu-jitsu guy ever.
Yeah.
And he does all this crazy yoga shit with his stomach where he sucks his stomach in.
It's really freaky to watch, man.
But the guy has like...
Absolute control of his breathing.
tom segura
That's incredible.
joe rogan
And because of that, I mean, not just because of that, because he's also incredibly talented.
He has a wealth of knowledge of Jiu Jitsu.
He's a master.
He's a true master.
And on top of that, he's also a yogi.
That breathing shit is super important, coordinating your breath.
With striking as well, not just with Jiu Jitsu.
When you kick the bag, when you kick a person, you breathe out as you strike.
And that's why a lot of the karate and even in Muay Thai, they not like the same thing, they kiai.
They yell out when they hit things.
And Thai guys do that a lot in training.
You hear them like, yeah, yeah!
When you go to see Thai fights, they yell out.
The audience or the trainers yell out.
They yell out.
It's like you're tightening up as you're delivering the shot.
Also, to protect you a little bit if you get hit yourself.
tom segura
I know a lot of the heavy...
Bench press guys.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
If they're trying to rep out on heavy weight, it's always one in and one out.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
So it's supposed to go, like, take one breath in and push it out with one breath, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
And they try to do, like, 225, like, 30 fucking times.
That shit is, like, all, you know, it's better than going, you hold your breath and you're out.
It totally fucks up the rhythm of it.
joe rogan
You know what's crazy to do, what's really hard to do, that I enjoy doing, I enjoy it as an exercise, is a minute in, a minute out.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I take a one minute breath in, a slow one minute breath in, and then a slow one minute breath out.
And it's very hard to not freak out and just start, in the middle of it.
It's very hard.
brian redban
I do it in like 30 seconds, but I do it a lot.
joe rogan
I do it in the tank.
And that's how I start my tank sessions.
I start my tank sessions by completely controlling my breathing.
tom segura
Have you always been able to do that?
joe rogan
No, I had to build up to it.
tom segura
Your buddy, what was it?
joe rogan
Denny, right?
tom segura
Powerful Denny?
joe rogan
Yeah, powerful Denny.
tom segura
He said he does yoga like every morning.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, Denny's a bad motherfucker.
Denny's a world champion in jiu-jitsu.
I've known Denny since he was a young kid.
He's a great guy.
He's awesome.
Denny Propagos.
He runs 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu in San Francisco.
He's a young man, but he's also a master.
He's a developing master as he's getting better.
But he's really into yoga right now.
Yoga and meditation.
He had a few back issues, and he actually gave me some pointers.
Because I had a bulging disc in my back that's actually been getting better.
Yeah.
Denny went through some back issues himself, and he did a very strict regimen of yoga.
It was like a type of tension.
It's like a spinal decompression.
It's literally like pulling your neck while there's cord.
And he did this very disciplined over a course of five or six weeks or something like that and fixed his issue.
tom segura
Denny has that quality, too.
You know, we were talking about how you can sense bad energy and, like, dangerous?
Denny, to me, has, like, just being around in a few moments, you sense, like, a type of balance.
I get the feeling from him that I do from a lot of people who are very disciplined.
There's a certain intensity to them, but there's also a certain amount...
You can feel their control at work.
They're such disciplined characters.
A lot of times, really good athletes, there's that energy that they bring into a room.
I know these guys that do triathlons and stuff.
They have this...
It's like a quiet intensity to them.
You meet them and you can feel their presence.
Their discipline comes through just when they speak to you.
joe rogan
Yeah, absolutely.
And they're the best type of people to be around.
The best type of people to be around.
tom segura
Good influence.
joe rogan
People that have control.
Inspirational influence.
tom segura
I agree.
I agree.
joe rogan
And Denny's definitely inspirational.
I love the fact that I've seen him as a young man.
I met him when he was very young.
I think he was like 17 or 18. And he was always a cool kid.
Even back then, he was great.
But to see him evolve and develop and become the man he is now...
I love seeing that, man.
I love seeing people progress.
I love seeing people get it together.
Like I was telling Tony Hinchcliffe the other day, I had him on the podcast.
And I was like, I love the fact that in the time I've known you, you became a really good comedian.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
I love that.
I love that.
I didn't know a guy.
He started out, and then I meet him a couple years later, and he's a great comedian.
Oh, look at this!
We got one right there.
tom segura
It's pretty awesome.
joe rogan
It's fucking amazing.
tom segura
He's great.
I love Tony, man.
unidentified
He's hilarious.
tom segura
So funny.
He's a total natural.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
And the best comics are the ones that can't even help themselves.
Like, if a joke is in the room to be said, he just jumps on it.
joe rogan
He dives on it like a fucking grenade.
tom segura
Yeah, absolutely.
I love that feeling with comics.
unidentified
Yeah!
tom segura
I love the, um, and I love seeing, like, I have so many friends who I started out with who I'm, like, proud of just watching them as my friends.
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, like, I brought, uh, you met Matt Fullstron.
joe rogan
Yeah!
I love that dude.
tom segura
I mean, he can't help himself either.
joe rogan
What a great personality that guy has.
Matt Full Charge is the best.
When you're around him, he's got a legit smile, and then all of a sudden you're smiling, and he's a great guy.
There's certain guys like that, we only talked a little bit, but I could tell right away, he's awesome.
tom segura
He's awesome.
He had the week off, and I asked him to come with to do the shows that I did.
To do Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday.
And he fucking brought the house down every set.
It was awesome.
joe rogan
Really?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
He killed.
I would imagine he'd be really funny.
Anybody that came to the shows, Friday night and all the weekend, thank you very much.
You guys were awesome.
San Jose was the shit.
tom segura
That was the shit.
joe rogan
Northern California might be the best place on earth.
tom segura
It's awesome.
joe rogan
It really might be.
I mean, the weather's not the best.
It's not the best.
But as far as human beings, as far as intelligence, vibing with human beings, I think I vibe better with Northern California people than anybody on the planet.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
I really do.
I have some friends that live up there, and whenever I go to hang with them, I always feel like, God damn it, why don't I live in Northern California?
tom segura
It's awesome.
joe rogan
It's better.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, the weather sucks a fat dick, though.
Unless, you know, that's only a negative if you don't enjoy sucking fat dicks.
But if you enjoy sucking fat dicks, I'm just talking from my own personal perspective.
I'm not trying to be sexist nor homophobic.
tom segura
Some of them are too big to really get in your mouth right.
joe rogan
Especially if it's like a demon dick or a big giant warthog.
The only ones that mouth fuck you.
That's not beyond the realm of possibility.
I watch a chimp fuck a frog.
You know, ever watch a chimp fuck a frog's face?
tom segura
Um, no.
joe rogan
There's a video of it.
There's a video of it online.
Have you seen it?
See if you pull it up, Jamie.
tom segura
I have seen pornos where I see the girl really struggle to get a guy's soft dick into her mouth, and I'm like, that's a big dick right there.
She's really struggling with his limp.
joe rogan
She's like...
Plus her mouth is all dry.
tom segura
Wow, that's really fucking stretching out her mouth.
joe rogan
When you're on all that meth, it's tough to generate saliva.
Yeah, they have dry blowjobs that take too long.
Dry blowjobs take too long.
That's...
tom segura
Oh, are we about to see this?
joe rogan
So this chimp rapes a frog.
He makes this frog suck him off.
So, because we know this exists, because we know that this chimp takes this frog and picks it up and puts it on his little chimp cock and fucks it, because we know that exists, I don't think it's that preposterous to propose that in an alternate world there could be a giant boar that makes you suck his cock.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
All he wants to do is hold a person down and fuck his face.
tom segura
He's raping that mouth right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, he fucks it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
He fucks that frog.
And then Fleshlight was born.
joe rogan
Look at him.
And by the way, this is not the only time this has happened.
There's another video of a chimp fucking a frog.
Apparently when chimps get frogs, they fuck them.
That guy's beaten off using that frog.
This is some shit we never saw in Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom.
They would have edited this out.
We need the internet to give us this information.
Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom would have you believe that chimps are cute friends to be taken with on rides in semis, on sitcoms.
This is what they are.
tom segura
Chimp is busted.
joe rogan
I respect this chimp.
They're murderous frog rapers.
brian redban
To be fair, I bet it does feel pretty decent.
tom segura
Don't you feel better about your own impulsive nature when you see that?
brian redban
I would try a snake, though.
Cut off the head and fuck the snake.
joe rogan
Not a bad idea, but the hole.
You need a hole.
Frogs have a nice big hole.
You know, if you can keep them from clamping down on your cock and balls.
And I think that maybe chimps probably have a much more leathery cock skin.
I think that was the whole idea in the beginning.
You know, we had more leathery cock skin, and then that's why the head retracted, you have the sensitive tip, and that's what makes you shoot.
But the average cock back in the day was probably a lot tougher than the cocks of today.
These fucking dicks today, they can't take...
Branches snapping into them or rubbing up against gravel while you fucking try to climb up the rocks at the beach.
No, these cocks today are weak.
brian redban
Yeah, because you would fuck winches and you wouldn't wash it off.
joe rogan
Winches?
brian redban
Is that what they used to be called?
joe rogan
Winch.
Not a winch.
unidentified
Winches?
joe rogan
You don't fuck a winch.
A winch is a thing you put on the back of a truck to pull a log out of a ditch.
That's a winch.
A winch is, I think, because I got in trouble for saying winches on Fear Factor.
Why?
brian redban
Were they black ones?
joe rogan
No, I was trying to motivate a girl, and she was on an all-girls fear factor, and there was these other girls that were saying, don't do it, don't do it, because she was scared, and so they were trying to make her more scared, and I said, hey, I go, listen, listen to me, don't listen to those catty wenches.
brian redban
Wow.
So what would a wench be today?
Like a hoe?
joe rogan
Yes.
Apparently, what they said, the reason why I got in trouble is because apparently a wench is like a prostitute.
I mean, we're talking medieval time, folks.
Okay?
Is that what it really means?
Doesn't it mean what it means in a cultural context?
In a cultural context where I grew up in Boston, a wench was a chick like, ah, he's a fucking wench.
It's like she was kind of a bitch.
She was like a little bitch.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
I don't think they've had wenches in Ohio.
joe rogan
And so a catty wench would not be a prostitute.
It would be a chick that talks too fucking much and is trying to damage a young lady's confidence in completing a challenge for $50,000.
Wench.
Catty wench.
But people get all upset.
Or they got all upset.
And this was back in the day.
This is a fear factor like season two or something like that.
It's not like today.
If you said anything like that today, you'd probably get arrested.
brian redban
You know, somebody tweeted that Ari said on his recent podcast, Punch Drunk, that he doesn't believe half the stories I say.
joe rogan
Half the stories you say?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
And I'm like, how would I make that shit up?
joe rogan
It's merely because you're a little awkward.
brian redban
Right.
tom segura
A little.
joe rogan
But, yeah.
And you've been known to tell a story a bit on the exaggerating side.
brian redban
To make it more exciting, maybe.
joe rogan
Occasionally.
brian redban
But it doesn't mean that the meme is still real.
joe rogan
You're not a liar.
brian redban
I really think you just need to follow me around to these massage parlors and stuff if they don't believe me.
joe rogan
Yeah, you also live an extraordinary life sexually that I'm sure he's not really able to deal with now.
brian redban
I just hate that.
joe rogan
Because he knew you back in the day when you were kind of a zero.
brian redban
I just hate that shit.
joe rogan
Now you're a hero.
brian redban
I hate that shit.
I hate when, you know, stuff like that though.
Like, hey, if you really don't believe my stories, why don't you ask me?
joe rogan
Here's really what I think.
Why care?
Why does he care and why do you care?
You guys are friends.
What is that about?
It's an energy distraction.
It's not something to focus on for him or for you.
He shouldn't have focused on it.
You shouldn't have focused on it.
Sometimes you're on a podcast and you're ranting.
And he wants to keep it real.
And that's really what he thinks.
There's that too.
But it's unnecessary.
When you do that, especially with a friend, you put out a certain amount of energy.
You put out a certain thing.
You put it out there.
And then, okay, well then that has to be responded to.
Like it's being responded to now.
And he probably didn't even think about that when he did it.
But if he just said it, or if he just thought it, and then didn't say it, he'd be way better off.
Or if he wanted to talk to you about it, Just say, hey man, I just want to tell you.
Sometimes you tell stories and I think they're fucking...
I don't trust them.
brian redban
Right.
And then I would say, what story, Ari?
joe rogan
Yeah.
But, you know, you do tell a squirrely story on occasion.
brian redban
Tell me one.
joe rogan
I can't remember.
brian redban
Because I could have people that were involved in the story there.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
joe rogan
Listen.
Okay, well, that's even more ridiculous because you're saying you've never exaggerated or told the story a little squirrely.
brian redban
I would have to have an example.
tom segura
You dunked in high school?
brian redban
No, never did it.
I'm saying, as an example, I would probably be prone to saying something like, yeah, that girl was fucking hot, man.
She was an LA-10.
When maybe she was a 7 or 8. Nothing wrong with that.
joe rogan
Nothing wrong with that.
brian redban
Slight exaggerations.
joe rogan
I appreciate it when someone tells me the truth.
Like, Ari would tell me the truth.
I'd go, what did she look like?
He'd go, LA6. Maybe.
brian redban
Right.
joe rogan
Maybe.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
He wouldn't say, oh, she was a 10. She's the greatest piece of ass ever.
You know, everybody appreciates that more than they appreciate exaggeration.
Because exaggeration, although I enjoy it, like Joey Diaz-style exaggeration is the greatest fucking thing on earth.
tom segura
Absolutely.
joe rogan
I mean, so in a way, it's hypocritical to say you don't enjoy exaggeration.
It's just saying you don't enjoy...
But, you know, Joey also tells a very honest story as well with the crazy exaggerations that you know are for comedic effect.
I mean, it's like part of the fun of it all.
tom segura
But that's also part of, like, each of these people's nature.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Like, Ari is a guy who, he's not like, oh, I'm gonna add all this little spice to the story.
joe rogan
He doesn't like it when you do it either, man.
He's very specific.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
He doesn't want you to bullshit him.
Because he's not a bullshitter.
But that's his own trip, too.
You know, his own trip is that he's very, like, focused and ambitious now.
And he doesn't want to hear any nonsense.
You know?
And that's because he's on a great groove right now.
He doesn't want anything getting hijacked.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whether it's his time hijacked with a fake story or someone giving him a fake impression of what happened.
tom segura
Another guy who you've witnessed make a huge crazy leap.
joe rogan
Dude, we were with Ari when Ari was first starting at the store.
I think when Ari came to the store, I hate that I don't know this, but I don't know if he started out.
I think he started out his first sets in DC, right?
tom segura
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I think.
But then when he came over to DC Improv, right?
Because I remember him having a hard time for them taking him seriously.
Did you say Baltimore?
brian redban
I thought he was from Baltimore, Maryland.
joe rogan
No, he's from Washington, D.C. It's close enough.
tom segura
He's close, but he's not from Baltimore.
joe rogan
No, he's from Washington, D.C. He's from Maryland.
I mean, D.C. and Maryland, they're right next to each other.
And Virginia's right there, too.
Anyway, point being, he came over here when he was fairly new to comedy.
But he was a really smart dude.
He was always a smart dude.
We became friends immediately.
He was a young kid hanging out at the comedy store.
I remember at first, he was like...
Everybody's weird around people that are already successful when you're an amateur.
You can't believe you're allowed to even talk to them.
You get weird.
But then once you get past that weirdness, you realize, oh, that's just Tommy Lawrence.
What's his name?
What's the fucking guy from In Living Color?
tom segura
Tommy Davis.
joe rogan
Confusing with Joey Lawrence for some reason.
Because the first time I saw Joey Lawrence was one of the first celebrities I ever saw.
I was on the set of News Radio and Joey Lawrence had his show right next to our show.
He had his Mercedes there and he had his leg outside the car and he's singing along to his own song.
unidentified
And I was like...
joe rogan
I showed up and I was kind of starstruck.
I was like, holy shit, that's Joey Lawrence.
That's Joey Lawrence singing his own music by his own car.
Tommy Davidson was another one.
I remember first talking to Tommy Davidson at the comedy store.
Tommy Davidson was like, hey man, what's going on, man?
He didn't know who the fuck I was.
I was nobody.
When I first came to the store, I might have been a paid regular, but I might not have even been a paid regular yet.
And then I realized, oh, Tommy Davis is just a comic, you know?
Like, we're all just comics.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
And then I always tried to be the same way with guys, young guys.
Like, young guys coming up.
I always tried to make sure I let them all know, like, we're all just the same fucking thing.
Just because that's Tim Allen.
Just because you see George Carlin over there.
He's a comic.
They're comics.
Everybody's cool here.
You know, this is a cool environment.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Ari was like one of the first guys that I saw go from being like, you know, like an open miker to like a fucking legit headliner, like a real headliner who comes up with an hour's worth of new shit every year.
tom segura
It's pretty crazy.
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was great at your thing for your dog.
tom segura
He was killing us both, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was really funny.
tom segura
We were in the back just fucking howling.
joe rogan
It's so important to have good comedy, man.
Without good comedy, our life would not be nearly as interesting, man.
It wouldn't be as interesting to perform because you'd be looking around at all this other stuff and you wouldn't be enjoying yourself.
It wouldn't be as interesting to watch.
Of course, your fucking clock is not right, Brian.
tom segura
Of course not.
joe rogan
The thing meows, but it's an hour behind you, fuck.
Looking at your clock, I'm like, why do I have to pee so bad?
I haven't even been sitting here that long.
I'm going to take a piss.
And don't let him talk about anything too silly when I'm gone.
tom segura
Okay.
Hey, no silliness, Brian.
brian redban
So, Tommy, we should talk about your podcast.
You just...
unidentified
You just...
brian redban
Alright, let's talk about something really silly.
Okay.
tom segura
Oh my god, I got the silliest thing.
brian redban
Poop update?
tom segura
May 2nd I'm in Toronto and I'm doing this show at the Underground Comedy Club and then May 17th I'm in Portland and At the Fun House Lounge.
And we added a second show at 10.30.
How silly is that?
brian redban
All right.
I'm going to be in May 3rd.
I'm going to be in Sacramento.
And then May 4th, I'm going to be in Sacramento.
And May 5th, I'm going to be at Cobbs in San Francisco.
And I'm bringing Sam Tripoli and Tony Hinchcliffe.
tom segura
Oh, this is silly.
brian redban
And you know what?
I was wondering...
Because you've been doing some shows with your lovely wife, Christina Pajewski.
tom segura
Pajewski, yes.
brian redban
And how did that go?
Do you see a future of you guys doing on the road a lot now?
tom segura
That's what we're doing the 17th and 18th.
brian redban
It has to be great.
tom segura
We're doing Portland and Seattle.
brian redban
Bro, together.
tom segura
Yeah, man.
brian redban
That's awesome.
tom segura
Yeah, dude.
It's going to be awesome.
See, this is a silly conversation.
brian redban
And your dog Theo is now better.
tom segura
Theo's coming with us.
Are you really?
Yes, absolutely.
And he's doing much better.
Thanks again for doing the show, man.
It was awesome for you.
brian redban
Yeah, that was really cool, man.
Actually, I met somebody from a bunch of people from Cartoon Network because of that.
tom segura
Really?
brian redban
Yeah.
tom segura
What do you mean?
They were at the show?
brian redban
They were at the show and they were like, oh, you were great.
And I'm going to go check out Cartoon Network Studios pretty soon.
And Maybe possibly pitch an idea to them.
tom segura
That's a good idea, buddy.
brian redban
Me and Joey Diaz's cats, maybe.
unidentified
Oh!
tom segura
I've got to talk to you about doing some shows that I think you would find fun and entertaining.
brian redban
What are those?
tom segura
No, dude, I don't believe in rabbits that talk.
brian redban
Dude, rabbits that talk have been featured in many cartoons.
That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard.
You believe ducks, but you don't believe rabbits.
tom segura
No.
That's silly.
Rabbits don't talk.
They eat carrots.
brian redban
Actually, I was really stoned, and I was reading about Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and how they edited out all these, like, the artist, like, you know, there's a scene where Jessica Rabbit pops out of the taxi, and you can see her vagina, and there's a few other scenes where, like, a baby looks up a dress, and there's drool coming out of the baby's mouth.
tom segura
What's that guy's name?
brian redban
Really?
Really?
Robert Fleischer?
tom segura
No, the actor that's opposite Jessica Rabbit.
You know what I'm talking about?
brian redban
Bob...
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
Haskins?
Bob Hoskins.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're right.
Hoskins.
brian redban
So then I found out that the only version that you can find that part in the movie is on a Laserdisc version, and there's only one version of that Laserdisc, and so I went on eBay and bought it for $4.
joe rogan
Do you have a laser player?
brian redban
I do, in Ohio.
joe rogan
Do you have to go back to Ohio to get it?
brian redban
Yeah, to get it just so I can see her vagina.
joe rogan
How do you buy a laser player?
Because it's not like turntables.
They still have turntables.
brian redban
Right.
No, it's like literally the ones that are out there are the only ones that exist.
What's cool about the one I got is I got this really high tech like five disc changer slash laser disc player and I was like, this is like the best.
It was on clearance for some reason and then like two months later a DVD came out.
I was like, oh, goodbye.
joe rogan
Isn't it kind of fucked up that the real sound people, the sound freaks, say that music played over a record sounds the best?
brian redban
Yes.
LaserDisc is better than DVD, but yet everyone went crazy on DVDs.
joe rogan
Is it way better?
Is it better than Blu-ray, though?
brian redban
No, it's not better than Blu-ray.
joe rogan
Then suck it!
There's no argument there.
Suck!
Unless you have a laptop made by Apple who can't work out a deal with Sony.
I feel so weak when I see a fucking PC user whip out his Bluetooth or Blu-ray.
unidentified
Bluetooth?
tom segura
The Blu-ray players are in all the PC laptops?
brian redban
Yeah, a lot of PC laptops have Blu-ray players.
joe rogan
Don't you Apple fanboy on me, you fuck!
brian redban
I'm just saying, none of the laptops today have DVD players in them.
Because that's Blu-rays.
joe rogan
The only ones that don't are Apple ones.
brian redban
Well, they're actually taking them out of most laptops nowadays.
tom segura
You take them out?
Wait, why would you take them out?
brian redban
Why would I take them out?
tom segura
You take them out?
Is that what you said?
brian redban
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Modern laptops, like PC laptops.
I'm not up on that, but I did, when I was at my friend, the Google friend's house, I did see the Google laptop with the Chrome operating system.
I got to play with that.
Touchscreen laptop.
Yeah, but it's all non-local.
Everything's like stored in the cloud.
brian redban
That's a horrible idea.
unidentified
Ugh.
brian redban
That's what supposedly the next Xbox is supposed to be, where you don't buy games.
All your games are on a cloud.
So you can only play if you have an internet connection, which drives me fucking crazy.
Can you imagine sitting there going, I just want to play video games.
There's a storm.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
You should be able to play if you're camping.
If you're camping, you set up a generator.
You shouldn't have to hook a fucking internet connection to it through your cell phone.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Imagine camping and you can't get away from your Xbox.
tom segura
I'm such a second generation guy for that too.
I like people to buy that first one that needs all the work and then come through in the second.
brian redban
Not me, my friend.
tom segura
Yeah, I know.
You get everything.
I love your dedication to seeing the Jessica Rabbit snatch.
joe rogan
One of the episodes of this new show I'm doing is about computer simulation theory.
And one of the things I'm doing is I went down to a place that makes computer games.
They actually do 3D scanning and they scan my face and they're going to put me in this fake game that they created.
Dude, wait till you see this show.
This show, I'm getting to do so much cool shit, and most of it I can't talk about because I can't give away any secrets or any of the things that we found out.
But it's so much fun.
It's been really interesting because I'm getting to talk to all these experts.
I'm getting to talk to all these interesting, intelligent people and crazy people, too.
It's been a couple of months so far, or a couple of weeks, rather.
And in a couple of weeks, I've had so much fun, man.
brian redban
I believe 100% in the simulation theory.
It's getting worse and worse and worse.
joe rogan
Why do you say that?
brian redban
Like last night, I've been having problems with my website, so I call a dream host who serves it, and it's like 5 in the morning.
This girl lives in California.
She works from her house, and she's just helping me out.
joe rogan
And she wants to get your freak on?
brian redban
Well, it's kind of funny you said that.
So I was watching this movie, Tim and Eric's Billion Dollar Movie.
joe rogan
Ain't nobody got time for that.
brian redban
Huh?
Nobody's got time for that.
And so in the movie, they're in this mall.
And I always find places that have closed down interesting.
This whole mall is actually a real mall that's in Palm Springs and whatever.
So I'm researching this mall while I'm on hold trying to get to talk to this girl.
And I found out there's all these pictures of this big Marilyn Monroe statue where they took two parts of Marilyn Monroe and put it in front of this mall.
Somehow it came up with Google search.
And I'm just looking at this crazy Marilyn Monroe thing.
And then so I'm talking to this girl and the next day today I noticed that she follows me on Twitter or somebody from DreamHosts follows me on Twitter who's a girl and she writes me.
She's like, you got somebody on your side.
I'm helping you out right now.
I'm checking in and trying to help your website out.
joe rogan
So is her.
brian redban
Direct message.
So I go through her photos because I'm going to see what she looks like.
One, she's a pretty Asian.
I'm like, wow.
joe rogan
So you started following her after she was following you?
brian redban
Following me, right.
So I went through and I'm like, wow, she's a pretty Asian girl.
Like the fourth photo is her in front of that fucking Marilyn Monroe statue.
Never seen it my whole entire life.
And now this girl that's helping me out, this Asian girl that's helping me out on DreamHost.
tom segura
Will you guys get shrimp therapy together?
joe rogan
In the next picture, if you backed up one further, you would see her fingering herself with a desk quad t-shirt on.
brian redban
That's right, yeah.
The whole time.
tom segura
I hope so.
brian redban
This whole time that she's actually the one that hacked my computer.
joe rogan
Have you seen the pictures of Ronda Rousey with the Death Squad t-shirt on?
brian redban
Yeah.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
This is the fucking coolest thing ever, man.
tom segura
That's very cool.
joe rogan
Seeing Ronda Rousey giving the thumbs up, the baddest chick on the planet.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
But by the way, there's a lot of badass chicks on the planet.
There's a gang of them, man.
There's some skillful women out there.
There's so many of them.
This new fight that they have, the new episode of The Ultimate Fighter, With this girl Kat Zingano and Ronda Rousey together.
Look at that.
tom segura
That's awesome.
brian redban
She's so happy to be wearing it.
unidentified
You know what?
joe rogan
She's so nice, man.
She wants to come on the podcast again, too.
She's going to be on somewhere after the beginning of May.
brian redban
And look how badass she is.
She has a fucking bed in her kitchen.
That's the way to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you know, she probably lives in a studio.
I mean, this is probably the same place.
She's one of those chicks that probably wants to keep it real, too.
I think, well, I don't want to say where she lives, but she's awesome.
She'll be back here again.
But she's fighting Kat Zingano, and they're going to coach against each other on The Ultimate Fighter.
And Kat Zingano just beat Misha Tate, who's another beautiful, dangerous girl.
And Kat Zingano, too.
They're all, like, Pretty girls that can beat the fuck out of you.
It's really kind of scary.
But this Zingano chick is a beast, man.
She's so badass.
Her and Misha Tate fought, and the combination that she finished her with, dude, pull it up.
Kat Zingano versus Misha Tate.
The female fight, dude, I was watching it at my friend Aubrey's place.
The female fight was the highlight of the room.
We were going crazy.
It was me, my friend Aubrey, and a bunch of his buddies.
He had like five of his friends over.
And we were eating Mexican food and watching the fights, having a great fucking time.
But the room went nuts when the Misha Tate Katzingano fight was going down.
It was chaos.
These girls were going off on each other, dude.
I mean, it seriously might have been one of the most entertaining fights I've ever seen in my life.
tom segura
That's awesome.
joe rogan
You've got to see the finish.
Just look up the finish.
The whole fight was great.
And, you know, Misha Tate came really close to getting her in a heel hook.
There was, like, dominant grappling exchanges.
And, yeah, you don't want to watch all this stuff.
brian redban
No, it's...
Although the actual fight parts are cut off YouTube, but I think they have, like, highlights right here.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
This is...
So they're showing you the highlight...
You don't have to play all this stuff because I hope it doesn't get us pulled off of YouTube or something like that.
But I probably won't.
I mean, I don't imagine it would.
brian redban
Here, I'll just do picture and picture.
joe rogan
Did you just show the video?
Yeah, they beat the fuck out of each other, man.
It was nasty.
I mean, it was like such a tightly, tightly contested fight.
And really, Misha Tate was probably getting the better of it on the scorecards.
But the end of it...
Zingano hits her with that elbow and drops her, and referee Kim Winslow stops the fight.
She's a badass, man.
tom segura
You remember the flying knee this week?
joe rogan
This is what excites me.
It's not that they're girls anymore.
It's now they're really highly skilled fighters.
They're not just women.
It's not just like, hey, girls can do it too.
It's like, no, these chicks are badass.
They're not half-assing it.
They're all going for it.
tom segura
Sure.
joe rogan
And now that Ronda Rousey has become so famous, it's like this is going to open the door to so many female athletes that have never even considered it before.
You start looking at it and you go, you know what?
I always wanted to kick a bitch's ass.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
Strap them on.
joe rogan
It's going to happen.
brian redban
The show starts in 15 minutes.
joe rogan
Indeed it does, Brian.
And we would know much better if you had a fucking clock that was more accurate.
tom segura
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Silly bitch.
How dare you, you silly bitch.
Powerful kitty cat clock.
Tommy Segura.
tom segura
Yo.
joe rogan
You are the champ.
tom segura
Thanks for having me.
joe rogan
You're one of the greatest humans I've ever met on my planet.
tom segura
Thanks, buddy.
joe rogan
You're a sweetheart, too, buddy.
I'm honored to be your friend.
tom segura
Me, too, man.
You guys are the best.
I love coming on your show.
It's a lot of fun.
joe rogan
Well, we love you, too, as well, my friend.
And together, we are stronger.
tom segura
We are.
joe rogan
We're like Genghis Khan.
We take one arrow, okay?
And you bring it in front of his troop and snap it.
Then you take a bundle of arrows.
And he couldn't snap it.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just to let the troops know, together we are strong.
tom segura
Together we are strong.
joe rogan
But divided, we are weak.
tom segura
That's true.
And I talked about this with you, and I talked about it with Christina a lot.
It was such a cool thing to have all of you, just as friends, come out and do our fundraiser for the dog.
It was just such a cool feeling for us to have all this support of you guys as friends just wanting to do it.
And then the crowd that night was just...
joe rogan
They were magic.
tom segura
They're magic.
joe rogan
We love you guys, man.
tom segura
It was awesome, man.
joe rogan
I couldn't love you any more than I do.
You're awesome.
tom segura
We appreciate it.
We really appreciate it.
joe rogan
And we appreciate you too, man.
Look, we're all lucky.
We're all lucky bitches.
We're all lucky that we know each other and we've got a good group of people.
We're going to keep this party rolling, freaks.
Since there was no commercial coming in, there's none coming out.
Sockets!
unidentified
Holla at your boy!
joe rogan
Holla!
Jihad.
Hare Krishna.
God bless Duncan Trussell.
We love the fuck out of you all.
We all are one.
Together.
One for all.
Something like Robin Hood said.
tom segura
Peace to the gods.
brian redban
I'm Segura.com.
joe rogan
We love the shit out of you guys.
We'll see you Monday with Amy Schumer.
Powerful Amy Schumer.
See ya.
Love ya.
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