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Dec. 27, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #304 - Andrew Dice Clay
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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joe rogan
I always have that uncomfortable moment when I have to talk to a dude after he's seen my act for the first time, especially like an older guy.
unidentified
He's already seen you.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
unidentified
Remember, he saw you like seven years ago when we were there for the Men of Comedy.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that's right.
That's right.
Yeah, we did it.
That's right.
Yeah, all right.
We'll start this podcast, ladies and gentlemen.
Andrew Dice Clay is here, bitches.
Respect.
Respect!
unidentified
New Year's Eve, you dirty fucks.
joe rogan
It's going down.
Andrew, motherfucking Dice Clay.
Where it will be?
How can they say it?
andrew dice clay
Showtime.
joe rogan
10 p.m.
andrew dice clay
On Showtime.
joe rogan
On Showtime.
Is this something you've already filmed?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, no, I filmed this already.
joe rogan
You said you were very happy with it.
andrew dice clay
Really happy with it.
But I really stayed on it from beginning to end.
I had a concept that I wanted to do, as far as I'm concerned, the most.
Like an ultimate rock and roll stand-up show.
To really bring excitement Like you, you're very animated on stage.
You're all over the place.
You move.
You can see there's life in you.
And that's the one thing that always bothered me about comedians, that they don't know too much about performance art.
Especially when the cameras are rolling.
Everybody thinks they're great, and then the cameras turn on, and they stand like a fucking mummy.
So I really wanted to give a real edgy rock and roll special and...
You know, as you've met before, my sons, you know, LA Rocks opens the show.
Eleanor Kerrigan, you know, who opens my shows, is in the special, which you never even see an opening act in a one-hour special.
And it's just from the second it starts to the second it ends, it's just exciting and it's fucking funny.
You know, and that's what I wanted to deliver.
I wanted to give people something that, you know, especially, you know, the way the world is today, the whole political correctness fucking shit, you know, and I wanted, I made sure there is nothing politically correct about this special.
Because when comics are being put on trial, they're telling a gay joke or a black joke, and now the whole world, what do you think?
When TMZ stop and you go, what do you think of Daniel Tosh saying this joke?
I go, it's a fucking joke.
Isn't that the point?
Aren't we allowed to comment on what goes on socially in the world?
joe rogan
And since when is someone joking and being serious at the same time?
Since when is that a real statement?
When someone's saying something that's obviously ridiculous, they don't really mean that, you're so stupid you can't interpret that?
You can't, you know?
andrew dice clay
And we're not running for office with comedians.
joe rogan
And the idea is that when someone says something offensive that's a joke, the idea is that somehow it's the exact same thing as saying something offensive about a person, whether it's a racist thing, Or a gay thing for just being cruel.
andrew dice clay
We're not in the street having an argument and calling somebody a name.
joe rogan
No.
We're saying it for an effect.
andrew dice clay
That's right.
joe rogan
And it's an art form.
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
And people, you know, this is a time where people need to really laugh.
You know, I really wanted the New Year's Eve spot because I also know, you know, especially because that hurricane happened on the East Coast.
And I know a lot of people don't go out.
It's house parties.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
And I just want their stomachs to fucking hurt.
From the things I'm saying on that stage.
joe rogan
Well listen, I saw you in Vegas.
Me and Norton and Anthony.
Red Band was with you.
Oh yeah, Red Band came.
Sam from Opie and Anthony's show.
And we had the fucking best time.
Because that's like...
It's a rare treat for me to be able to go and just sit down and be an audience member.
andrew dice clay
And enjoy it.
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
At a great show.
andrew dice clay
And you're seeing somebody that won't hold back no matter where.
You know, the first time I even did Vegas years ago for the Comedy Store, when the Comedy Store was at the Dunes, I got fired the second night, you know, for language, you know.
joe rogan
Is this you?
Is this the new special?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, this is the new special.
joe rogan
I love it!
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I wanted, you know, I didn't wear anything too intense as far as an outfit.
I didn't want to go with the Elvis-y jackets, you know.
I wanted it very street.
I wanted the stage to look street, you know.
joe rogan
The show you put on in Vegas was fucking awesome.
I really enjoyed the shit out of it.
andrew dice clay
Well, that's why I prepared for this.
I prepared for it in Vegas and around the country, but I did, you know, this past year, I did 28 weeks in Vegas.
You know, I just wanted it tight because as good as you think you might be when the cameras are rolling, like I said, you are going to fuck up a little.
You know, like I was doing this one bit.
Where I left out a whole chunk of the bit because I was so into like performing for the crowd that after the show was over, you know, the producers were like, you know, my wife, she goes, you left out this, this and this, you know, but that was the warm up show.
You know, and then the second show I came out to just annihilate the crowd and the crowd was, you know, it was bedlam.
It was as insane as I was.
You know, it was very reminiscent of my first special as far as the audience reaction.
joe rogan
The energy.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, we did it in Chicago.
I mean, the band kicked ass.
joe rogan
Do you feel like you're having like a resurgence?
andrew dice clay
It's a complete resurgence.
You know, I mean, just by the response of the people.
You know, years ago, you know, when I would say certain things with women, you know, it was the, you know, that's wrong to say, you know.
And today, when I tell them what piglets they've become through the years, now they've got their fists pumping in the air like, yeah, dice, dice!
joe rogan
It's a different era, right?
People are more accepting of fucked up shit now because of the internet.
andrew dice clay
But also, people have changed because a lot of what I talk about is sexual.
You know, and women have changed.
They're the ones that wrote the material, you know, that, you know, in this day and age, you know, I had a call from a friend of mine that was with a girl, went out with her, thought she was a sweet girl, and, you know, they wound up just doing everything imaginable to each other.
And he tells me, so I call her the next day, you know, to see how she's doing, you know, letting her know, like, it's not forgotten, like, I want to see you.
And she goes, I'll call you right back, and she never even called me again, he said.
He goes, I was the one night stand.
But that's how things have changed, that they've become so aggressive, you know, that you can't go by the face.
You can't go by, oh, she's got that girl next door look.
You know, and the next thing you know, she's a contortionist for you, you know, wrapping her feet around the back of her neck while you bang her.
You know what I mean?
That's what it is today.
joe rogan
That didn't exist before?
andrew dice clay
Well, you know what?
I didn't have one like that.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
andrew dice clay
You know, I haven't hit the contortionist thing, but, you know, I always thought a woman in the bedroom or, you know, in a subway, wherever you might be banging her at the time, you know, A dressing room, whatever.
A cab, a car, whatever.
You know, an alley.
You know, should be the kind of woman she wants to be.
Like, that she doesn't have to hold back.
Because I always felt like a lot of relationships, you know, like I'm married now for the third time and I feel a lot of relationships start, you know, splitting apart because People aren't honest at the beginning about what they like, how they like to be.
You know, years ago, a woman wouldn't let you know all these little things that might, you know, push her buttons.
And sooner or later, she's doing it with some other guy because she's now afraid to tell you what she's about.
And, you know, I would always let a woman know, just be the pig that you are, if I had to say it comedically.
You know what I mean?
Be what you want to be.
I don't judge that way.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think slowly but surely everyone's going to just be what they want to be.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, but when you're in a relationship and you don't start out that way, that's where the problems could arise.
joe rogan
Yeah, and also people grow in different directions.
That happens too.
One person will get freakier, the other person wants to settle down more.
andrew dice clay
Well, you know what?
You know, I always say to a guy that's with a woman for a bunch of years in the audience, I go, what are you going to leave her?
Just to fall in hate all over again?
You know what I mean?
Because it always starts out nice, you know what I mean?
And then a couple years later, it's that fucking money-grubbing hoover all the way to plaintiff.
unidentified
Is it possible to break that chain?
joe rogan
How do you break that chain?
andrew dice clay
You know, we're doing good.
You know?
Me and my wife are doing good.
joe rogan
Yeah, she seems happy.
She's always smiling.
You're always smiling when you're with her?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, she makes me happy.
We make each other happy.
joe rogan
Is it just a matter of getting the right combination, finding the right two humans?
andrew dice clay
You know what it is?
You really do have to search that out.
And, you know, I'm not going to sit here and make, like, we never had an argument.
I mean, she's Latin, you know.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know, I mean, it gets crazy sometimes, but we always know that we're tight.
That's what keeps you together.
I mean, an argument happens with anybody.
But you've got to know that you've got all these other things in the relationship that keep you together.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, if you just...
andrew dice clay
But that's, you know, but that's what I talk, you know, when I'm on stage, it's a different side of me.
It's, you know, it's, you know, an animal unleashed that when I'm on a stage, I could just have the freedom to say things the way I see it and paint these crazy, almost like pornographic, comedic cartoons for people.
And they laugh because...
They know they're doing it.
You know what I mean?
You know, when you see a couple, and you do, you know, we're similar in that thing.
You say what you feel on stage, and whenever you see those couples that look at each other and laugh, those are the couples that go, how does he know?
How does he know what an animal I am?
You know what I mean?
How does he know this, you know?
But that's research.
You know, you go through life and you learn different things.
joe rogan
Research.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, it's got to be research.
joe rogan
Yeah, absolutely.
Everything is research, really.
unidentified
I was with a contortionist recently, and I thought it would be amazing.
I mean, I always pictured it would be amazing, but she's always just really sore, and she always has a fucked up chin because her chin's always on the floor and shit.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah, and I'm a chin guy.
brian redban
I don't like weak chins where it's just like...
And then when it's a nice chin, but it's all scratched up and rashy...
joe rogan
Damn, they use the bottom of their chin a lot?
unidentified
They're always on their chins.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, that's interesting to me.
You know, I haven't hit that yet.
joe rogan
Wow.
andrew dice clay
We do any chin work?
unidentified
No.
andrew dice clay
You know, there's no chin work in our sex.
What do you mean with the chin?
unidentified
Because, like, when they do contortionist stuff...
andrew dice clay
Don't lie to me, Red Band.
joe rogan
No, there are.
There really are photos of people.
andrew dice clay
I'm in a good mood.
We're coming into the new year.
If you're just fucking around with me, I'm going to get angry.
unidentified
100%.
Like, a lot of times...
joe rogan
Pull a photo up, bro.
Pull a photo for him.
unidentified
Photo of the chins?
joe rogan
Yeah, someone doing that on their chin.
andrew dice clay
How would you even have that here?
unidentified
I better not say where she works.
brian redban
But she would always be in a bent position where her face is always on the ground.
b-real
And her feet go all the way over the back of her head.
unidentified
Her feet go around her like this.
So she's sitting there like that.
Whenever she's doing contortionist, she's always on her chin here.
I'll show you some photos if you look at that TV right there.
Like, uh... - Let's see this now.
- You know, see like... - What is she, in the circus show?
- See that girl?
brian redban
- Like this right here, like this kind of stuff, where she has her chin.
unidentified
Right here, like this kind of stuff.
andrew dice clay
- Oh, this is a girl that you know?
unidentified
This is not her.
This girl is seven.
andrew dice clay
What's that?
I've got bad eyes.
I can't be looking at a seven-year-old.
joe rogan
This is a woman.
unidentified
This is a woman.
joe rogan
See that woman's legs?
unidentified
See how her chin is on the ground?
brian redban
You never think about it, but contortionists always have their faces on the ground.
andrew dice clay
You're stepping on her head and you're in there, you know what I mean?
That's no good.
unidentified
That is a weird position to put your body in.
andrew dice clay
That's not a position I could get into, I don't think.
unidentified
And then in sex, you just don't think about it.
brian redban
Like, yeah, their legs bend really far back when you're putting them up above your legs, but you're not going like, all right, now, can you bend this backwards?
unidentified
I just want to make it a meatball or something.
andrew dice clay
You mean you don't do stretching exercises with your chick before you begin?
unidentified
No, I don't.
joe rogan
It's probably better than a chick with a hamstring pull, though.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, if it was the opposite, Like, ow!
Don't pull my leg!
unidentified
Ow!
andrew dice clay
It's just funny that you have those pictures up there.
That's funny to me.
See, he looks like a nice guy, right?
He looks like a regular nice guy.
But look what he's into.
joe rogan
Well, he just gave it a shot.
In his defense, he didn't necessarily say he was into it.
andrew dice clay
Oh, you're not into it?
unidentified
No, I'm not into it.
andrew dice clay
You got a girlfriend right now?
unidentified
Sure, yeah.
No.
andrew dice clay
Nothing steady.
unidentified
Yeah, I have a steady and a two.
andrew dice clay
What does that even mean?
joe rogan
It means he's retarded.
This is called a web.
A web.
You get caught in the spider web.
The spider web of retardation.
And it sticks to you.
unidentified
I'm dating.
joe rogan
And you're like, oh my god, I'm in this conversation and I can't get out.
What the fuck did I do?
Why did I engage him?
You're trying to pull yourself free.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, no, but I like him.
But now, you know, we're into something.
joe rogan
And you don't know why you're invested in this.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, but what happened?
unidentified
I'm just dating.
That's, I guess, the easiest way to say it.
Dating?
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
A guy shouldn't say dating.
joe rogan
He's always trying to, you know...
andrew dice clay
And I like you.
You know, I'm not starting with you.
But, you know, I'm dating now.
That's what a girl says after she broke up with a guy after six months.
Well, I'm starting to date.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
You see what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
I'm just trying not to jump right into a relationship.
andrew dice clay
You know, you're on a very cool podcast here.
You can't use expressions like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't do that, man.
andrew dice clay
You know, and I like you.
We're friends already.
unidentified
What am I supposed to say?
andrew dice clay
You know, I'm banging a few of them out right now.
joe rogan
I'm not committed.
andrew dice clay
Just to fit the show, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
I'm not completely committed over here.
andrew dice clay
You know, I throw a load this way.
I splooged all over this one before I came to work just for a goof.
You know what I mean?
Things like that.
It fits the show.
joe rogan
Brian, you've got to realize you're never going to go back to being...
andrew dice clay
You know, this is a podcast.
That's the beauty of this.
You can say what you want.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're never going to go back to being an accountant again.
This will never haunt you.
andrew dice clay
Was he an accountant?
No.
joe rogan
He used to sell computers.
unidentified
He's a good guy.
joe rogan
He's a very good guy.
andrew dice clay
He's a mess.
joe rogan
He's a mess.
andrew dice clay
Well, you're with him a lot.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
andrew dice clay
No doubt that he's a great guy.
joe rogan
A mess in a good way.
What's going on?
andrew dice clay
Out of one side of his mouth, he's saying I'm dating.
unidentified
I'm pink-socking Asians.
I'm making them pee a little.
andrew dice clay
All right, but what I'm saying is, out of one side of your mouth, you're talking about dating, and on the other side, you're showing girls, you know, twisting themselves into pretzels.
joe rogan
But that wasn't really, like, a sexual thing.
andrew dice clay
No, no, but it can be, is what he's saying.
That's what he's saying.
joe rogan
What happened?
Brian, you just retarded yourself out.
Now you're caught in your own web.
Your own web has wrapped you up.
andrew dice clay
All right, we'll leave him alone.
joe rogan
We'll leave him alone.
In his defense, he has a very unusual dating situation.
Seems to be working out.
andrew dice clay
And he doesn't want to talk about it in the air, right?
joe rogan
I get that.
andrew dice clay
So what do you want to talk about then?
joe rogan
We want to talk about you, man.
andrew dice clay
We want to talk about comedy.
joe rogan
We want to talk about you.
andrew dice clay
We are.
We are.
I try not to be so crazy with myself.
I really try to stay grounded in what I do because it does feel a little crazy right now with what's going on, like you said, about a resurgence.
joe rogan
Well, you seem real excited about comedy again, too.
andrew dice clay
Well, you know what it is?
I've watched a lot of the specials, and when I spoke to Showtime about this, You know, I had a couple rules because, you know, I even told my director, Scott Montoya, I said, look, you know, you're gonna go through something now.
This isn't gonna be like the other specials you've done.
You're gonna, you know, your hair's gonna change color because of this.
You know, you're gonna go through it with me now.
You're gonna be a different man when you come through this.
And what was funny is, When we were going to do the special, he spoke to Joe Diaz.
He told me, he goes to Diaz, he goes, I'm thinking of doing a special with Dice.
What do you think?
And he goes, I think he's great, but you're going to go through it.
He's crazy when it comes to these things.
And I am.
Because all the way from the performance to the editing, I want it to be perfect.
I want people, like, in a capsule.
Because I really don't want to do any more specials.
Like, I'm going to do The Road now.
I'm just finishing up, you know, a deal with the Hard Rock in Vegas, a long-term deal.
And, you know, I want to do what I do on the road now.
joe rogan
What are you going to do at the Hard Rock?
Same thing that you were doing at The Riv?
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
joe rogan
Doing monthly shows?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I'm going to do, like, two weeks at a clip and go into, uh...
What's the name?
Vinyl.
It's a rock club.
Like I said, I base my act on rock and roll, so I like a certain setting.
It's not that big of a room.
joe rogan
I was just there.
I was just in Vegas two weeks ago.
It's great.
The new Hard Rock is great.
andrew dice clay
I just love it.
With what I do in that hotel, it really fits.
Vegas is somewhere I like to be a lot.
You know, on the road, you know what it is.
You go into a couple thousand seats.
It's one time a year.
But Vegas, I like doing like 20 weeks, 24 weeks a year.
And, you know, me and my wife just go nuts there.
We have a great time.
And, you know, it's like a home away from home.
joe rogan
Right.
Why did you choose Vegas to work out your shows?
unidentified
Why did you decide to do it that way and not do it in L.A.? Well, I was doing clubs around the country.
andrew dice clay
You know, so I did that.
You know, I did the, you know, like the Governors, all those clubs.
You know, but Vegas was like a steady thing.
It almost became like my comedy store.
You know, I was at the Las Vegas Hilton for a while working on it, and then we went the Riv before the Hilton, and then we went back to the Riv, because I was never into the room at the Hilton to start with, but, you know, I have a...
You know, investors in the show, and you know, we tried it.
But The Riv was a great room to really just work it out, do as long a set as I want, and really just make everything tight and develop the material with an audience that's coming to see me.
So when you have the people that are paying to come see you, You know if the material is good because that's the fans now.
When you go on places like the Comedy Store, you're going to get those people that look at you and go, what did he just say?
I want to leave now.
And I didn't want to deal with that.
I want the real audiences.
joe rogan
I thought that was a brilliant idea to do it at the Riv for that reason, that you would get all your people there, but also because the place has so much fucking history.
It's such a crazy hotel.
andrew dice clay
Think of the people that perform there through the, you know, from Sinatra to Sammy Davis to, you know, comics like Milton Berle and, you know, Jack Benny, you know, who personally I wasn't ever even fucking into, because, like I say, I wasn't, I was never that much into stand-ups.
But, you know, when you're on a stage that, you know, Sinatra was on, I did a lot of rooms like that in Vegas.
I did, um, before they knocked, uh, what was it?
The Stardust.
I did the Stardust for a few years.
joe rogan
Wow.
andrew dice clay
And that was one of the best stages because that stage, you know, you had the stage that you're on like this, and then it had, uh, what's it called?
Like a runway that went right through the entire audience.
And they don't build stages like that anymore.
So I was lucky enough to play some of those.
Bally's Hotel I did for 13 years.
joe rogan
Isn't it crazy with those old Vegas hotels that when they're done with them, they explode them?
andrew dice clay
It's crazy because, you know, I think, you know, I know a lot what goes on in Vegas and like these people that just bought the Sahara want to make it like more of a boutique hotel again, you know, for high rollers, not a lot of kids, you know, not a thousand floors up, you know, a smaller place where people really feel that old school Vegas feel.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
And I also think Vegas is really becoming A place for comedy, not just comedy, for live entertainment.
Because of recession, you know, when people come to Vegas, if they're going to go to a show, they want to see somebody familiar to them.
unidentified
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know, so that's why a lot of comics are moving there, you know, and that's why a lot of, you know, you see people like Cher performing there.
I just saw Guns N' Roses there.
You know, it's that type of place now.
They want to see people that they're fans of.
They don't want to see just, you know, a bunch of midgets on bungee cords.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
Jumping around to the Beatles music, you know.
joe rogan
You could probably do like a weekly show in Vegas and never have to travel anywhere and just make people travel to you.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, but I want a tour.
I want a tour.
You know, I owe it to myself.
I owe it to the fans that, you know, have been with me all these years.
I'm doing this a long time.
So I really want to do that big tour again.
And I don't know how, you know, the kind of rooms I'll do yet, but I mean, just on things that are on sale already, they're going through the roof.
You know, and the special hasn't aired, but people know it's coming.
And, you know, ever since I did Entourage, I have this whole new audience.
And I'll always get that.
Where can I see a comedy special?
You're doing a comedy special.
So I really prepared for it.
I really took it serious.
You know, when I see guys preparing for specials, but just fucking around on stage, that bothers me.
I'm like, they all want to be superstars, they all want to fill, you know, the Staples Center, but nobody's putting in the work to do that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
You know, and I know you're a hard worker, that's why I feel free to tell you this stuff, and I know you give...
Everything you got on stage.
I mean, you know, it's funny.
When I was coming up, you weren't around, right?
So, you know, you had myself, you had Sam Kennison who was screaming his head off, and then one night I walk into the store, And I'm like, I'm seeing, you know, just style-wise, almost a blend of Kennison and me coming through you, but even more intense when you would scream it.
That's why I love them.
I'm going, who the fuck is this that the night I came in, you were about, you know, you were deciding in your head.
I could tell if you wanted to just smash this guy's skull in.
And I'm going, now that's funny!
You know what I mean?
Because nobody came along since, you know, like, I did an album called The Day the Laughter Died, because Rick Rubin, who produced five of my albums, you know, he did like, you know, he was the one that brought rap to the scene.
He's the one that brought the Black Crows and, you know, bands like that.
I mean, he produced, you know, Rolling Stone albums.
You know, and he said to me, you know, in the early 90s, he'd go, you're the end of comedy.
There's nowhere to go after this.
You know, and then here's this maniac on stage.
I mean, I came in the middle of your act, so I had to, like, watch to see where you were.
You know, because you were just, you know, this has got to be 15 years ago, maybe even more.
And, you know, so you were so young, and just, your face was beet red.
You know, and I'm going...
I know this guy.
I didn't know your name because I just came walking in from the front door.
I go, he's going to kill this guy in the third row.
And I don't know what over.
It's a comedy show, but that's the shit that makes me laugh.
And then one night, Eleanor, this is not even that long ago, I was destroying somebody in the original room at the Comedy Store.
And that's when you came up with, I love Dice Mean.
And she told it to me.
I go, does he really?
She goes, he just loves you and he loves when you get angry because he knows you're really getting angry.
joe rogan
It was one of my favorite things at the comedy store to be in the back.
We'd be in the back talking and someone would yell out in the hallway, Dice's got a heckler.
It's like he had a fish on.
You know, it's like, we got a tuna.
You know, and we would all run in in the back and just watch you just eviscerate people.
When you would get really mean with people, look at you.
andrew dice clay
Because I would really, see, I'm not fake on stage and I'm emotional.
So if I'm doing like a great bit that I know is great and in the middle of it, you know, I hear a guy yelling out, little Bo Peep!
I'm going to get angry at that person.
It's not even about heckling that person.
It's about knowing I've mentally hurt him for years to come.
joe rogan
But it was still with great timing and comedy skill.
andrew dice clay
It was still very funny.
Of course.
You've got to stay with it.
But it's like you really want to hurt the person mentally.
joe rogan
You want to crush them.
andrew dice clay
You know what I mean?
Now it's at the level where we throw people out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
You know, which, you know, first I'll have the heckle fight.
joe rogan
Well, you did that in Vegas.
You threw a guy out.
The guy in the front row.
Two minutes into the show, the guy was so drunk, he couldn't even communicate with you.
You're like, this is not going to work.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, and I can't deal with that.
It's like, why that drunk?
I had a guy, I was at Governor's a few months ago, Do you remember this, Valerie, with the blind guy?
Yeah, okay, so this guy is just drunk and he's wearing dark sunglasses.
He's looking like a dice clone, you know.
That guy's gotta be, you know, 50, you know, or in his 40s, whatever.
So I'm going back and forth with him a little bit.
You know, I figure I'll always give a person a chance.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
But the guy, now I get back into the act and he starts in some more.
So, you know, you got pretty tough bounces there.
And I go, do me a favor, get rid of this fucking asshole of a human being.
You know what I mean?
Just throw him the fuck out.
So now after the show, Don Jameson was opening for me that night and he would sell his t-shirts at the front of the club, you know.
So he comes to the dressing room and he goes, you just missed the greatest thing I ever saw in comedy.
And I go, why?
What happened?
He goes, you know the guy you threw out?
It took, number one, four bounces.
He had, like, retarded strength.
He goes, but he was blind, you know, and he was swinging his stick at them.
He ran.
He tried to run, and he smashed right into a wall, and he turned around, and he was fighting these guys, and he was winning, you know?
You know, going, he's coming back in the room.
He's gonna kick Dice's ass.
I mean, that's what a comedy show is today.
Who's gonna kick somebody's ass?
unidentified
And I'm going, how the fuck did I know he's blonde?
andrew dice clay
You know what I mean?
The guy, you know, I've had guys come to my show wearing the glasses and the fingerless gloves.
How am I going to know the guy's blind?
You know, and they're dragging him out of the room.
He was starting to fight them on the way out of the room.
You know, which is entertaining to me.
You know, this way I get to laugh a little.
You know what I mean?
You know, why should the audience always be the one to have a good laugh?
Who's going to make me fucking laugh?
You know, so when Don told me, when Don told me the story of the blind guy, I really was laughing.
It was very enjoyable.
But...
The other side of me was, I want to throw the guy out if I knew he was blind.
How do you do that?
It's like kicking a cripple out of that wheelchair.
joe rogan
So was he heckling?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, but it was drunk and it wasn't coherent stuff.
And I'm going, okay, asshole face.
Which is one of my newest heckle lines.
You know, if a guy's a real asshole, I'll tag him with that name and I'll keep going, asshole face.
And then I start getting angry and I go, I'm not saying you're an asshole.
I go, I know you've been called that a thousand times in your life because of the kind of person you are.
What I'm saying to you is I think you have a face that resembles a fucking asshole.
And that's what I truly think of you.
joe rogan
That's some shit that you wake up in the middle of the night when you go to take a leak.
andrew dice clay
No, I'll tell you what happens mentally when you text.
No, no, this is what happens with that.
See, let's say it's a guy in Vegas with his friends.
Hey, asshole face, you know.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
So those friends that are with him now, these buddies of 20 years, you know, that night they're going, come on, asshole face, let's go have a drink.
And it's funny the next day even, maybe even a week later.
But three years later, when they're calling your house and the kids are picking up the phone, they're going, yeah, put asshole face on the phone.
That's when the guy's going, why did I ever say a fucking word at that show?
Because now forever, he's asshole face.
joe rogan
That's a multi-tiered solution.
I like how you played that out.
andrew dice clay
But I really think about that stuff.
I go, what would hurt?
In the long run.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's like some humbling chess shit, right?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, like if you call...
I've heard you call people assholes on stage.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
andrew dice clay
Like, hey, you're a fucking asshole.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
They don't even hear it because they've been called.
But to tag them and let them know they have a face that resembles an asshole.
joe rogan
Even if they don't, just give them that doubt.
andrew dice clay
Well, no, you know, normally the ones I pick out have it.
You know what I mean?
I really look for a guy that has...
I don't want to give a guy a name that doesn't fit him.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
andrew dice clay
You know what I mean?
So, he sort of has to have a face that resembles...
brian redban
That's Heckler Herpes, is what that's called.
unidentified
Yeah, it just keeps coming back to fucking haunt you.
andrew dice clay
Because that's the fan.
I don't...
That was another time...
You know, Max was with me, and...
This, you know, this guy was fucking with Eleanor on stage and his girlfriend, I think, or his wife.
So, I come on stage and the minute he opened his mouth, I'm like, throw this motherfucker out.
Oh no, I wasn't on stage!
And what happened was, I start yelling at the, uh...
You know, the promoters of the show, I go, get that fucking guy out of the room.
If he's bad with her, he's not even going to let me get started.
But it wasn't good enough for me that they threw him out.
I come out the back door, I'm going to fight the guy.
joe rogan
All the shows going on?
andrew dice clay
Well, Eleanor's still on stage, you know, so I figured there's a little time.
You know, and my wife was yelling...
joe rogan
Is that your phone?
andrew dice clay
Is it my phone?
What the fuck with these things?
I don't know how they work.
joe rogan
Unfortunately, I think you've also told that story before.
andrew dice clay
It's Happy Face.
joe rogan
Oh, it's Happy Face?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, yeah.
And, uh, wait, let me check this.
Who's Happy Face?
He's with me for like 25 years already.
He does security for me.
He's into what you're into.
You know, he's got martial arts schools on the East Coast.
joe rogan
And his name's Happy Face?
andrew dice clay
Well, his name's Mike Melandra, you know, but it's Happy Face.
joe rogan
Everybody calls him Happy Face?
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you know, because he'll always try to smile at a guy when he's throwing him out.
And, you know, he's a pretty deadly guy.
And that's what I love about him being Happy Face.
joe rogan
That's a great name.
andrew dice clay
Well, he got his job with me.
joe rogan
I fucking love that name.
Happy Face is a great fucking name.
andrew dice clay
And that's a Happy West also.
joe rogan
Happy West is not as good.
Happy West got fucked.
Happy Face came first.
andrew dice clay
Well, Happy Face is with me like 25 years.
And the way he got his job was I would work out in a gym, a Gold's gym in Jersey.
And we would just start talking and then we would work out a little together.
Happy Face is about 5'7", but he's not that big.
But he would talk about his martial arts school, how his father taught him.
They both had the school.
A father like son, he followed in his footsteps.
So he's standing between the two owners of the gym, which were animals.
These guys were the type that benched 350, 100 times.
They were big guys.
So I said, Happy Face, I go, you know, with my shows, I don't like, you know, we were talking about him, like, working for me, because I had Club Soda Kenny, who's like 6'5", big, you know.
And I said, so I looked at Happy Face like he's the sniper.
You know, they'd never see him coming.
I go, but we don't like to hurt anybody.
I go, so what I'm going to do, I'm going to try to get past you, and you've got to stop me without hurting me.
And this guy put me down.
My ass didn't even touch the ground.
That's how fast he moved.
But at first he's going, I don't want to touch you.
He goes, I came to the Meadowlands to see you.
He goes, I can't.
I go, well, that's the A. You can't hurt me.
That's it.
And he did this move on me that just put me right down.
joe rogan
See, the problem is he can always hurt you.
If you're resisting, you get hurt just scrambling.
andrew dice clay
That's right.
But he put me down, and that night he was working for me.
And that was the beginning of Happy Face.
joe rogan
That's a nice name.
I like it.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, and I love his temper when he gets mad.
It's a lot of fun to make him get angry.
joe rogan
You know, it's funny talking about, like...
andrew dice clay
Because he didn't like the name Mike the Murderer, so that's why it went to Happy Face.
That was his first name?
Well, yeah, he starts screaming about that.
Don't call me that!
You know, it's a touchy situation, you know?
You know what I'm going?
It's just a name.
He goes, but don't call me that!
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah, people don't want to be called murderers.
andrew dice clay
No, but he's Happy Face for 25 years, so he's happy about...
That's why he's calling me.
joe rogan
The Comedy Store was always the worst place in the world for heckling because there was no crowd control whatsoever.
Nothing.
andrew dice clay
Nothing.
joe rogan
You would think, like, when I lived in Boston and we were at Stitches, Stitches is when, that's where I did my first open mic, and I had been really inspired by you, really inspired by Kennison and a few other guys, and I was really, like, looking forward to doing some, you know, trying to do some stand-up comedy.
And...
You think back then, like, what the face of comedy was like and what it's like now.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, see, it's all, like, blank to me right now.
And I'm not pissing on it, but I don't find...
You know, I'll flip around the channels to see if somebody's on, start watching for a few minutes.
But like I say, these guys don't put a lot into their...
There's nobody developing a persona.
You might not realize it, but you have a persona.
You know what I mean?
People come to see Joe Rogan, they know what they're getting.
But there aren't too many guys.
It's almost like white bread.
There's no persona up there.
So even if the material's decent...
You know, a lot of material's been done.
A lot of guys cover the same subjects.
I'd rather see a guy that's more entertaining than I could go, do you fucking believe what he's doing up there?
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
That's the kind of act I like to see.
joe rogan
When we were in Boston and we were starting out and we were like looking at the face of comedy, the comedy store was always Mecca.
That was always like that fucking place where you'd make the pilgrimage and everybody would go see the stage where you performed, Kinnison performed, Richard Pryor and Letterman.
andrew dice clay
Everybody.
joe rogan
But when I got there, I forget who was on stage.
It was some road hack.
The place was half full.
And some guy's yelling out shit in the back of the room.
And no one's kicking him out.
andrew dice clay
Nobody.
joe rogan
And this was like my first experience at the comic store.
andrew dice clay
Because the bodyguards are there.
The doormen are comics.
Nobody wants to get into it.
joe rogan
Only Harris Pete.
Harris Pete would get down.
Harris Pete would get down.
He would throw dudes out.
andrew dice clay
I once saw Tony Danza knock him out.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, because you know how condescending Harris could be.
joe rogan
Tony Danza was a very good boxer.
andrew dice clay
And Tony Danza just wanted to come in.
Nice as could be.
I don't know if you know him, but he's just this friendly guy that could kick ass.
And Harris gave him a hard time, and he put his hands on him.
Like, you can't just walk in.
And he just gave him one shot, and he went flying down the stairs.
Really funny.
Really enjoyable.
joe rogan
Harris is such an angry guy.
For whatever reason, he's such an angry guy.
It took me years to get even the tiniest compliment from that guy.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, that's the name I haven't thought of.
joe rogan
I couldn't believe he worked there.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, he just left the world.
He just got on his motorcycle.
joe rogan
But I do have to say, when the guy gave you props, it meant something.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, for some reason it did.
joe rogan
Yeah, it meant something.
But why?
Well, it would like him to be a little bit more fair with them, you know, with his props.
andrew dice clay
No, but I'm saying what, you know, it's like getting a compliment from him was like getting one from Mitzi for some reason.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was close.
andrew dice clay
But you know what it is?
Because he was always there and he saw everybody perform.
joe rogan
That's true, too.
He knew whether or not to be impressed with you or whether or not you were just bullshitting the crowd.
But he was also just negative.
andrew dice clay
But also the comedy store, why I think, you know, somebody like you would like it and myself, that was the bad boy comedy club.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
It still is.
You know, like you say, it's a free-for-all.
You go over to the improv, which is a great club, but everything is run.
Like, at the comedy store, nobody even knows who's running things anymore.
joe rogan
It's madness.
And it was more madness then than it is now.
unidentified
It really was.
joe rogan
I think it's probably way better managed now than it was back in the early days.
But, man.
andrew dice clay
It was insane.
joe rogan
But when I came along, you know, it was 94. That's when I first started performing there.
And I just...
I was blown away.
But it was like, the place was like crackling.
It's like the magic of all those sets was like in the walls.
andrew dice clay
And with the store, you ever notice you could go there some nights, you know, those Sunday, Monday nights, and it's as fun as could be and crazy.
And then there were certain nights when you come there like that, and just the vibe is bad.
Just the wrong combination of people.
Just like that you go, you know what, I'm getting out of here.
It's just that bad fucking vibe.
And then just other nights, just insane great.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's an amazing club.
You know, just the history.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I still love it.
I still love going there.
I still love going on the stage.
joe rogan
Yeah, I can't go back because of the falling out that I had with them.
andrew dice clay
Oh, I didn't know about that.
joe rogan
The Mencia issue.
You didn't know about that?
andrew dice clay
Oh, but you're not allowed back because of that?
joe rogan
I never went back.
I never would go back.
When they banned me for that, I'm like, you guys are out of your fucking mind.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, but if you weren't banned, then you wouldn't be a comedy store member.
joe rogan
I got banned before that.
Mitzi banned me once for my J. Howard Marshall joke.
I had this joke about the old dude that fucked in Nicole Smith.
It was one of my favorite jokes.
It was a great joke.
She hated it.
It was just about, you know, that everyone was saying, oh, it's so sad to watch this poor old man, you know, and, like, he's getting robbed and this woman's just here for his money.
And I'm like, don't you think he knows?
The guy was 90 years old.
He made a billion dollars from scratch.
You know, chances are he's a tad crafty.
Like, how do you want him to die?
And then it was this whole death scenario, like, on desperate.
And then you go off on it.
Making her do a bunch of dirty shit.
I loved the bit, but it was about old people.
She did not like it.
I think she banned me once for that.
She banned me once or something else, too.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I've been banned from there.
My kids were even banned from there.
I had a thing with Paulie years ago.
Like, when I first broke up with my wife, you know, I'd always bring my kids to the comedy store at night.
And, you know, Eleanor would hang with them, you know.
So, one night, you know, I mean, Dylan, who's now 18, you know, was only 11, you know.
And, you know, I'm seeing Paulie in the comedy store.
Paulie had a hamburger joint.
When he was 12 years old at the Westwood Comedy Store.
So I know Paulie growing up, since he's that age.
So he goes, how many times, I gotta tell you, don't bring your fucking kid in here?
You know, and I was like...
joe rogan
Paulie said that?
Like that?
andrew dice clay
But he was standing there, my kid was there, so I go, Dylan, I forgot, I think he was with Steve Simone, I go, Steve, take him outside.
You know, I go, you know, like I was gonna have to hurt him at that moment.
You know, but I didn't, you know, but I got in his, I didn't get physical, you know, you can't do that stuff.
But Paulie told his mother that I threw a glass at him.
So she banned me and the kids.
You know, my kids were banned at 11 and 15 from the comedy, which is so great.
And my son, Max, loved it because he understood it.
He was old enough to understand it.
And then one night Mitzi comes in and Eleanor's sitting with her and saying, no, no, that's not what happened.
I was right in the kitchen when it happened.
He didn't throw a glass at Paulie.
She goes, if anything, he would have caved his skull in.
You know, he just threw the glass in the garbage on his way out.
And she, you know, her voice, she's like, well, I knew that Andrew wouldn't do something like that.
You know, he wouldn't go to that level.
joe rogan
Yeah, you wouldn't throw a glass.
andrew dice clay
No, I would never.
I would never.
You know, that's not what I'd do.
joe rogan
I could see you hitting somebody.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, well, you know, but I can't hit somebody unless they, you know, try to hurt me.
You know, it was more like I just laid into them for it.
And on the way out of the kitchen, the back door, I threw my glass and it broke on the wall, you know, near the garbage can there.
But Paulie was out in the hallway.
He was nowhere near it.
But it was, you know, we made up.
Of course, we're friends today.
And, you know, we laugh about all the nonsense.
unidentified
But, you know, it's just a crazy place.
andrew dice clay
I mean, sometimes to end the show, you would have loved this.
You weren't even out there yet.
This is like, I'm talking like 86, 87. So me and Kennison would be the last acts of the night every night.
She'd put us on back to back.
And it was either he went on first or I went on first.
And, like, to end the show sometimes, if he'd go on first, you know, I'd be on stage, and, you know, once he'd get bored with it, he'd throw a chair at me on stage, and then the whole fight would happen on the stage where Carl LeBeau would jump, and you would just see who's ever in the audience, because the audience is tourists.
They don't know what's going on.
They don't know, you know, I'm falling over the front tables, knocking people over, and people are just running out of the place.
Like, what the fuck is this?
Like, all hell breaks loose.
There were so many great fake fights at the Comedy Store, because that's the one thing comics love to do.
We love being children.
joe rogan
Don Barris.
andrew dice clay
Don Barris is like the king of that shit.
unidentified
I was talking to him last night about you.
He loves you to death.
And he's like, you should bring up how he used to, did he used to go on the road with you?
andrew dice clay
Oh, I would have Don, I would put Don in, whatever I was in, I would put him in.
Like we wound up doing this crazy Frank Stallone movie in Ixtapa, you know, Mexico, and we were stuck there for like five weeks.
And of course I made Don do like Alfred Hitchcock in the movie.
There was no call for Alfred Hitchcock, but I talked the producers into it.
You know?
And that's where he actually hurt his foot.
You know how he's got like a bad foot?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He hurt his foot?
andrew dice clay
Well, what happened with Don, he always wants to fight me.
You know, so...
So one day, you know, he starts in with me on the set, and it's all these Mexican crew members that don't even understand English.
And he puts his foot, like, there was a hole in the ground.
And he wouldn't go to the hospital after to fix it.
You know, so to this day, like, he just moves the wrong way, and he's crippled.
You know, he just falls down.
And it was funny, what happened was, I went back to Madison Square Garden in 2000. And it was Don's job at the time to come there, because he really wanted to see it, with my wife and my sons.
So, he was the problem on the plane.
Because what happened was, he's walking down an aisle, and the foot goes.
And he's, you know, Don's emotional, you know.
So he's screaming, laying on the floor on the plane, and scaring, scaring the entire flight!
You know, and then they get him into a chair, and the foot felt better.
You know, the cops were at the airport to question him.
And I go, your job was to just bring them here.
That was the gift.
You get to fly for nothing and get a hotel room.
Bring them in and you cause a problem on the fucking airline.
But that's Don.
You know, that's who he is.
unidentified
Do you think he was just practical joking with you?
andrew dice clay
No.
unidentified
He does that shit all the time where he's like laying at norms.
No, no.
andrew dice clay
No, it really goes.
His foot really goes.
joe rogan
Is it a broken foot?
Is it a ligament?
andrew dice clay
I'm sure he, like, chipped something in his ankle, and he just wouldn't go to the house.
He goes, what are they going to do to me here?
You know, he turns into this baby.
Oh, no.
Oh, yeah, and he would do the road with me, you know, and I had...
When he would do the road with...
I would just take him with me.
When he would do the road, I had a...
At that time I had Eddie Griffin with me.
Yeah, so Eddie Griffin was like the real opener.
So what would happen is I'd give Don 10 minutes right up front.
So we'd be on a big tour bus traveling the country.
And one time he's on the bus and he's like, you know how he gets down on himself?
You know, like, almost like that, he's not crying with tears, but I'm going, well, Don, it's because the crowd doesn't respond the way he wants, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
Because he would come out singing, uh, Tire Yellow Ribbon, you know, you know, with the, with the music over it and get the crowd clapping and, So now the song ends, and then he goes into another one.
He'll go into like Copacabana.
So now he's on the bus complaining about...
I go, Don, it's your ten minutes.
After they get the joke of who you are, that you're this fucking goofball, well now where are the jokes?
You know, and he would go, well, you know, I went into the other song.
I go, they don't want to hear another.
You already did the bit.
You had them clap.
Now they've got to clap to Barry Manilow singing, you know, Copacabana.
Who gives a fuck?
You know what I mean?
Nobody gives a fuck.
You create the character.
You're this fucking big goofball.
Now give them jokes.
You know, but we had a lot of fun.
And then there would be another rumble on the bus.
Now it's him jumping on me and trying to kill me on the bus.
joe rogan
Yeah, his life is constant theater with that guy.
andrew dice clay
Constant theater.
brian redban
That's who I hang out with every single day from midnight to about 4 a.m.
joe rogan
Really?
John Barrett?
That's fine.
andrew dice clay
And you know, it was hysterical with the movie we did in Xtapa.
They wanted me to stay and film for longer than I wanted to be there.
And I'm going, I got to get out of here.
I got gigs I got to do.
So they promised me a lot of money in cash.
And Don, through the whole shoot, is going, they're never giving it to you.
You got to get it now.
I go, Don, they're going to pay me.
We made a deal.
unidentified
That's it.
andrew dice clay
It was a crazy set.
I never went through anything like this in a film, ever.
What went on in those five weeks.
Through the five weeks, I've got to hear how they're not going to pay me.
He's just on me.
Of course, they give me the money and Don had to tape it up.
You know, all over my body, like that movie Midnight Express.
joe rogan
Did you really?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, because, you know, it was a part of Mexico that we actually thought that the director was going to have me stopped at the airport.
You know, so, you know, we're thinking, all right, how am I getting, because you're not allowed more than, like, $10,000 in cash, and this was a lot of money.
You know, so he was taping it with this, like, paper tape to my chest, to my thighs, you know, that when I got home, And when we're going through the airport, I'm going, they're going to stop me.
I'm going to be in jail, and whoever stops me is going to be rich.
It's that simple.
But they didn't stop us, and now I get home, and I take off my shirt, and my wife sees all this money taped to my chest, and she's going, What is that?
And I'm going, no, they paid me.
That's how they pay you in Mexico.
But Dom was just so sure they're not paying me for the money.
It was just crazy.
I wouldn't eat.
We only had one meal a day because everybody on the set was getting sick.
Everybody was going to the hospital.
And all we had every day was we went to the same restaurant about 4 o'clock every day.
We had pasta with sauce.
Garlic bread and coca-cola with purified ice and we wouldn't eat till the next day at the same time because we figured we'd make it the middle of the day because we're only getting that one meal.
We're not eating any of the food there.
joe rogan
Wow.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, and he lost like 30 pounds.
He's going, I gotta eat something.
You know, he's going, this is ridiculous that we're not eating food, you know.
But everybody's falling at the wayside.
What are we going to do?
This is survival, my friend.
joe rogan
Those B-movie sets can be very fucking sketchy.
andrew dice clay
And it was for a long time.
It was five weeks of the same food.
In Mexico.
I could do that.
I could eat the same thing every single day.
But you want it like twice a day, but the restaurant would close like nine at night.
So we'd have to wait until the next day at four o'clock to have the next meal.
joe rogan
Wow.
andrew dice clay
So it was just bottled water, you know, and that was it.
Bottled water and pasta once a day.
unidentified
What's the name of this movie?
andrew dice clay
It was called The Good Life.
It never came out.
joe rogan
Ah, man.
andrew dice clay
You know, and I always talk to Frank Stallone.
He always says he should release, like, pieces of it on the Internet.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
It was the craziest thing, you know.
I wanted it to be a comedy.
Frank Stallone wanted it to be a drama.
Because I would tell the producers, I'd go, it's really a funny movie.
And comedy sells.
So when Frank would do a scene, he'd come over to the director and go, how was that?
And he goes, well, it was very dramatic.
And he's going, well, it's supposed to be a drama.
And he goes, well, I think it should be funnier.
unidentified
And he goes, but the movie's a fucking drama!
andrew dice clay
Like, so he was flipping out.
We had a big fight over that movie.
But the producers now want it to just be like a comedy.
unidentified
Dennis Hopper's in it.
andrew dice clay
It was supposed to be, you know what it was supposed to be?
It was supposed to be Goodfellas on a golf course.
joe rogan
So Dennis Hopper, you...
andrew dice clay
Dennis Hopper was in it.
But it was filmed really big.
joe rogan
Can you find it anywhere?
Is it online?
unidentified
No.
It's on IMDB, but it doesn't...
Yeah, it's not online.
joe rogan
But no one put it online?
andrew dice clay
But also...
joe rogan
David Carradine was in it, too?
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
A lot of people were in it.
joe rogan
Beverly D'Angelo.
unidentified
Sylvester Stallone is in it.
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
They never made it?
unidentified
You should just sell that shit to Netflix or something like that.
You'll make...
andrew dice clay
Well, it's not my movie to sell, but...
You know, it just wound up, the whole time in Ixtaple was drama.
You know, but the movie's hysterical, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, those B-movie sets.
I've only been on one, I've been on, well, two B-movie sets.
andrew dice clay
But you know what happened?
We had a good director at the beginning, and then the producer, who was an attorney, fired the director, and he decided to direct.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
andrew dice clay
So now what happens is, this is where it starts going a little crazy.
And I can't play golf.
I hate fucking golf.
I don't have patience to hit one little ball across the park, whatever.
So I wasn't really good at playing the golf, so we would make it that they make fun of me.
But I had some golf material at the time where I talked about hating golf.
So this new director makes me do some of that material on the master shot on a crane.
So he goes, I want you to do that monologue every time.
And I go, no, but I'm not doing that monologue every time.
I did it for you because you asked me to do it in the master shot just so you hear some talking.
And he goes, no, I want you to do it.
I go, that's my material for my act.
I don't want to do it.
You know, you're not paying me for it, are you?
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
And he goes, you'll do what I say.
I go, I'm not going to do a fucking thing you say.
I go, and don't ever tell me what to do again, ever, in front of the camera, which Don Barris is falling down laughing as he's making our little documentary movie with my camera, because I was always filming.
joe rogan
Did he literally say, you'll do as I say?
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
Whoever listens to that.
And he says, if you don't like it, you could leave.
So I said, okay, I'll leave.
I go, Don, let's go.
And I had clips over to Kenny there.
I go, let's leave.
He goes, well, my attorneys will be in time.
I go, asshole, you told me to leave the set.
You don't want me in the movie if I don't want to do my own material.
And I don't want to do it.
So don't fucking tell me what to do and I'll stay.
And that's it.
You know?
And what Don loved...
No matter what the guy did for his main profession, he goes, you're telling your director, the guy that's supposed to tell you what to do, Don't ever tell me what to do again.
But that's his only job right now, is telling you what to do.
I go, yeah, but you heard what went down, you know, and he agreed with it.
And then I decided to direct part of the special.
Not the special, the movie.
And, of course, I come to the set one day and it's like 110 degrees.
And this guy, you know, the guy directing was, you know, he had a funny character.
He was very low-key, where the...
The sombrero, because it was Mexico and it was always hot.
And I go, what are we doing today?
And he goes, I don't know.
And I go, do you want me to set the shot up?
And he goes, would you please?
This is the director now!
joe rogan
Oh, he just tapped out.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, he goes, I just want to finish the movie and go home.
And that's how he would talk.
That's like an impression of the guy.
So now I'm directing the movie, and there was a scene I directed.
This was great, because I was a little at war with Frank Stallone at the time on the set.
So I was shooting a scene that I needed Don Barris for, and now I decided Club Soda Kenny will be in the movie also.
So Frank is shooting a scene where he's playing a guitar in his underwear, talking to some girl he was with in bed the night before.
So I come in there and I take the sound guys.
unidentified
I'm like, come with me.
andrew dice clay
Just come with me.
So now I get the sound guys.
So he winds up shooting this whole scene that he's doing and he doesn't know he doesn't have sound.
And all of a sudden, coming from this house, you hear him screaming, he took the fucking sound guys!
unidentified
You made me do all these takes and we don't even have fucking sound!
andrew dice clay
And the director's going, well, Dice is directing a scene right now.
unidentified
And he goes, why the fuck is he directing anything?
andrew dice clay
It's not his movie to direct.
And then we crashed the golf carts, which I got in trouble for.
I played chicken.
You know Peter Dobson?
He's an actor?
No.
He's been in a lot of stuff.
Anyway, so me and Dobson were good friends and decided to play chicken with the golf carts.
And I turn at the last second, and my golf cart gets completely destroyed, and Frank goes flying out of it, because he's with me going, what are you doing, as we're going towards each other?
And I'm going, just stick with me on this.
He goes, I don't want to stick with you.
Stop driving!
You know, but we wouldn't stop driving.
And I turn, and they smash in my...
So now I'm not allowed to be in the golf cart.
joe rogan
So you're playing chicken?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, chicken, to see who turns first.
Yeah.
And then we're having sword fights with the golf clubs.
I mean, it was ridiculous what was going on.
You know, Beverly D'Angelo's in the movie.
Frank Pesce's in the movie.
joe rogan
What was your war with Frank Stallone?
unidentified
What was that about?
andrew dice clay
Well, just that I believed the movie should be a comedy.
joe rogan
Oh, okay, that.
andrew dice clay
You know, so I started doing, like, an impression of him on screen.
Because I could do him really well, the way he stands.
And, you know, so now he sees the final cut and he goes, what are you doing behind me?
You know, I go, an impression of you.
He goes, you're not supposed to be doing an impression of me.
I'm the leader of the gang.
I go, but it's funny.
And he goes, but the movie's not funny.
You know, and of course we all made up after the movie never came out.
joe rogan
You make up with everybody.
You make up with Paulie, you made up with that guy.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, because it's more fun to have your friends.
And then laugh about it.
joe rogan
You and Dom Herrera ever going to make up?
unidentified
You know what?
andrew dice clay
It's not that I'm even, like, mad at a guy like Irara.
You know, he's just stupid.
You know what I mean?
You know, I really don't...
joe rogan
I like both of you.
unidentified
I really do.
joe rogan
I wish you guys would work that out.
unidentified
What?
andrew dice clay
There's nothing to work out, you know?
joe rogan
Just call them stupid.
I'd say you have an issue.
andrew dice clay
Well, calling somebody stupid and saying I don't like a guy are two different things.
I'll sit here and go, he's a great comic.
I think he's a great comedian.
But, you know, he's just too bitter for me.
You know what I mean?
You know, he...
joe rogan
Well, you and him have always had, like, this antagonizing...
andrew dice clay
No, he always had it.
unidentified
He always had it with you.
andrew dice clay
You know, he used to...
You know, I came into Philly years ago, and, you know, I would headline the Comedy Factory outlet.
You know, so they would have him open the shows...
You know, and he would look at my character like Italian rather than just a Brooklyn guy.
And, you know, my real name's Andrew Clay Silverstein and I went to Andrew Dice Clay.
You know, so we won the same Rodney special.
You know, and he just got fucking jealous that my career went through the roof.
And, you know, and he didn't.
You know, and the funny thing about that was, I might have even talked about this on your show, that he would have been the perfect guy, you know, when I was doing the arenas, you know, to open those shows.
You know, because people did like him on the special, but like I said, not everybody becomes a megastar.
It just doesn't happen.
Not everybody becomes the fucking Beatles.
I'm sorry.
You know, but he's a great comic, and because he had, you know, he started going on radio shows and saying my real last name, and I'm like, what's the problem?
A Jew from Brooklyn can't be a tough, good-looking guy?
Is that the fucking problem?
You know, unless I'm Italian?
joe rogan
Well, the name Clay, where'd that come from?
andrew dice clay
Well, that's just my middle name, Andrew Clay Silverstein.
unidentified
Oh.
andrew dice clay
That's what my parents gave me.
joe rogan
So, when you decided to just go as Dice Clay, why'd you decide to do that?
andrew dice clay
Andrew Dice Clay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Why did you...
Silverstein was...
andrew dice clay
Well, you know what the original name was?
When I go on stage, this was funny.
Because my original act was like impressions.
I'll just put it to you that way.
You know, doing Travolta and Stallone and Jerry Lewis.
joe rogan
Your Travolta is insane.
Your Travolta is the best Travolta on earth.
No one nails it.
andrew dice clay
Well, the thing about Travolta is that...
You know, he had those Brooklyn characters.
We were similar looking when I was 17 years old.
And I was just able to do them.
I could turn into Vinnie Barbarino.
Alright, so you asked me, Vinnie, where's your homework?
joe rogan
Vinnie, where's your homework?
andrew dice clay
What?
That was the act.
joe rogan
That was the whole act?
andrew dice clay
No, no.
joe rogan
You could say words.
unidentified
You know, I did my homework, but my dog ate it.
andrew dice clay
I couldn't believe it.
You know, and I would do all these Travolta, but after the impressions, when I came to the Comedy Store, After I did, I got a shot on Don Kirshner's rock concert and I did that whole act.
But now it was about the acting thing and I was thinking, well, nobody's gonna buy me to do Travolta or Stallone.
I gotta develop my own stage persona.
joe rogan
Do you know what kind of nuclear arsenal of a joke You have in your wheelhouse, if you just did it, with you doing an impression of Travolta and have some massage bit.
Do you know with that impression how good that bit would be?
I know you don't want to do it and add luck out of, you know, courtesy to Travolta.
I know you think he's very talented.
You don't do jokes about him.
But my God, what a fucking...
Crushing bit you would have.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, but you know what?
joe rogan
Your impression is really good, and then with the situation is so ridiculous.
Him just wanting to get jerked off by all these guys.
Him saying, let me massage you.
The whole thing is great.
I mean, it's ripe for comedy.
I'm not hating the guy.
I love him.
unidentified
Would you like me to dig my thumbs into your neck a little?
I could see you got a little crick.
Come on, are you telling me that you pretending to massage a guy as Travolta?
andrew dice clay
And then Stallone says to him, then Sly says, you know what, that feels pretty good.
No, I got a sense of humor about it.
I just feel he's been through a lot.
joe rogan
Oh, he's been through a lot, but he's also dished out a lot.
andrew dice clay
He's one of our greatest stars, so I can't do it.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
He's a great actor, no doubt about it.
But he's also a freak who likes getting jerked off by dudes.
There's no question about that either.
That seems to be a reoccurring theme.
And I ain't hating a guy, man.
You should be able to do whatever the fuck you want to do.
andrew dice clay
Well, you know what it is?
joe rogan
There's a lot of guys who would blow him just because he's a bad motherfucker.
andrew dice clay
But that's what I always felt the problem with women was.
Maybe that's why he went to the guys.
They just don't know how to jerk.
joe rogan
I think he's a freak.
andrew dice clay
You know what I mean?
You try to teach them.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Some girls just seem to have a born-in ability to do it correctly.
Some girls just get it.
unidentified
Squeeze hard.
Don't even say whatever the fuck your thing is.
andrew dice clay
My wife is squeeze hard.
Who cares what somebody's doing to you?
Unless they got their legs wrapped behind their ears.
joe rogan
Saddle down.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, look at him.
Mr. Date.
joe rogan
Not by the hair of your chinny chin chin.
andrew dice clay
King of the date.
No, I love Travolta.
I can only do impressions of the people in film that I really love.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's too bad you can't do it.
andrew dice clay
Well, I just did it for you, though.
I gave you a little.
Last time I wouldn't do it.
joe rogan
That's a taste.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I mean, I could come up with it, trust me.
But, you know, I've got to leave the guy alone.
joe rogan
That's a beautiful thing.
I would not leave him alone, even if we were tight.
andrew dice clay
Can you do Travolta?
joe rogan
No.
andrew dice clay
Do you do any impressions?
joe rogan
I could do a couple.
andrew dice clay
I want to see one of your shows now.
I'm not even kidding.
joe rogan
I'll send you my special.
I'll gift it to you.
andrew dice clay
Hey, I'll give the five bucks.
I'm willing to pay.
You know what I mean?
You know, it's just...
You know, I got a heart for people.
That's what it is.
joe rogan
I understand.
andrew dice clay
You know, so even like with Irera, like you were saying, you know what I mean?
I don't hate the guy.
You know, they're all guys I don't like.
You know what I mean?
I mean, just don't like for many reasons.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know, his own jealousy would overcome him, I guess, but...
He missed out on the greatest gig in the world, you know, doing these arenas, because he is an Italian from Philly.
I mean, I did the Spectrum three times, you know what I mean?
And he would have been great in those rooms, so I would book Lenny Clark, and Lenny Clark wound up, I'll never forget, I did the Universal Amphitheater, and Lenny calls me up and he goes, you know, can I have some people come to the show?
And I'm going, Lenny, that's what it's all about.
Like, why wouldn't you be able to have people come to the show with 6,000 people, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
And he winds up, I don't know if you know Lenny Clark's whole career, but they gave him a sitcom.
He got a sitcom that night, and that didn't work out, and he wound up on the sitcom with, what was it, Frasier?
You know, Frasier, I think it was.
joe rogan
John Larroquette?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, where he played a cop.
joe rogan
No, he wasn't on the John Laird catch.
andrew dice clay
No, but it might have been that...
Wait, you can look.
Red Band, do something.
You're running the panel.
joe rogan
Yeah, look, you do the IMDB for Lenny Clark.
By the way, Lenny Clark...
andrew dice clay
No, but Lenny Clark wound up with a huge career.
joe rogan
Yeah.
One of the funniest guys ever in Boston.
andrew dice clay
No, but I'm telling you, it was that night that it all came together for him.
joe rogan
Lenny Clark gave me some great fucking advice, too.
Like, my second time ever getting paid to perform, I opened up for Lenny.
This guy that I was working for, Norm LaFoe, who was booking gigs in Western Massachusetts, had these little one-night bars.
He had this place called Jay's in Pittsfield, Massachusetts.
And I got to open up for Lenny.
This is after Lenny had been on HBO. And I got to go.
And Mike Clark, it was a funny moment because his brother, who's a great guy, still books a club called Giggles and Socks.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Mike Clark is the shit.
He's just a great, great fucking guy.
andrew dice clay
I never met him, but I know he's a great guy.
joe rogan
He gives me advice.
andrew dice clay
His reputation.
joe rogan
He's like, pal, you're pretty funny, but you're going to have to clean it up a little bit.
unidentified
Oh, really?
andrew dice clay
He was talking to the right one.
joe rogan
That Madonna bit, you know, that one is just too much.
It was just saying, like, for his rooms, you know, like, where I would work.
But then Lenny comes off stage and goes, kid, that was fucking hilarious!
unidentified
Holy shit, that fucking Madonna bit was fucking hilarious!
joe rogan
That heavy Boston accent, and Mike's like, I just got told, done telling him to stop doing that bit.
unidentified
It was the John Larroquette show.
joe rogan
It was the John Larroquette show, yeah.
unidentified
And he also did Lenny, a show called Lenny.
joe rogan
Yeah, I should know that because it was next door to us when we were filming news radio.
He was over there.
He fucking, he said that John Larroquette guy was a twat.
He would just say how fucking horrendous it was to work with that guy.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, but he did great.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Lenny was a top-notch stand-up, like, before anybody...
andrew dice clay
Well, these were all the guys that were on the Rodney special.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
So you had Lenny Clark.
You had a, you know, they had a fill of spots, so they put Barry Sobel in there.
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
andrew dice clay
You know?
joe rogan
Look, Barry Sobo at one point in time was pretty fucking funny.
He was pretty fucking funny.
andrew dice clay
He's a funny guy, but when we did the Rodney special, you know how he wears baseball jackets?
So he shows up with a motorcycle jacket.
And he's going on like two before me.
It was Lenny, then Sobel, then Carol Leifer, then myself, then Bill Hicks, Irera, and Bob Schimmel.
And so he comes in wearing a motorcycle jacket, and he goes, this is what I'm wearing on the show tonight.
So I'm like, all right, another jerk off, because I didn't know him well, you know.
And I go over to Rodney, I go, look what the guy's wearing, Rodney.
And Rodney goes, yeah, so what?
I go, well, he wants to wear it on the show.
And then Rodney caught it, you know.
He's going, Barry, come here, man.
You know what I mean?
He goes, what are you going to wear on the show?
And I'm standing right there, and he goes, well, I'm going to wear this jacket.
And Rodney goes, if you wear that jacket, man, you're not on the show, okay?
Dice wears the leather.
You know, and of course, Barry took out his little baseball jacket, and that was the end of that.
joe rogan
Do you think he was trying to do it to, like...
andrew dice clay
You know what, all these guys, you know, when I prepared, you know, just like I'm talking about my special now, right?
I really prepare.
You know, I'm not going to do a half-assed job when I'm up there.
And when that Rodney special, you know, I had about six months to get ready for that.
And every night I'd go on at the Comedy Store, I wouldn't care if it was two fucking people in the crowd, I'm rehearsing.
I'm rehearsing the act, that's it.
Joke to joke to joke.
You know, Halloween, there's Dom I Rara just fucking around on stage.
And I'm like, these guys just don't get it.
Because I knew when I would be in front of that camera, That the only thing I needed to worry about was playing the people and the people at home.
I didn't want to think about the act.
I wanted to be on automatic pilot because your nerves get to you and you want to do the performance now.
And these guys would just fuck around at the store.
They wouldn't rehearse it.
You know, and then they show up to do the special and everybody's nervous.
And I'll never forget, I walked from the Regency Hotel, you know, I just wanted to feel New York, and I was in my outfit for the Rodney.
I'm wearing a belt buckle, you know, this fucking big, you know, with the sunglass.
And I come walking into the club, I got the glasses on, and Rodney goes, how do you feel?
He's like, how do you feel, man?
You know how Rodney would be like.
And I go, tonight they pay.
joe rogan
Tonight they pay?
andrew dice clay
Tonight they get disciplined.
And Rodney, tonight they pay.
Okay, man, you're ready.
unidentified
Okay.
andrew dice clay
Tonight they're going to get disciplined.
Did you hear that?
And he just got such a kick out of it, you know.
And when I went on, it was like, just kill him.
First show out of the box.
joe rogan
I love that Rodney did that, that Rodney had those specials and introduced so many fucking comedians.
andrew dice clay
Well, you know what?
If I do more, as far as...
Comedy specials, that's what I want to do now.
I want to put guys on that I think are great, go around the country, find the best, and deliver those guys to America.
joe rogan
That's a great idea.
andrew dice clay
I spoke to Showtime, they're into it, but first I gotta do this.
And really, I think people are just gonna be fucking thrilled with this.
You know, I was thrilled with the end result.
L.A. Rocks just rocks the room, which was a little scary to me because when I saw the audience, you know, my boy, just like comics, now you got, I think we used 18 cameras, you know, for the shoot.
So, you know, you know what I'm talking about.
Just the pressure of, you know, producer, director, all the people involved in the special.
And, you know, my kids came out, you know, Eleanor introduced them, and they just rocked the room and the crowd went nuts because I'm worried that they're not going to let them get started.
You know what I mean?
And they just rocked it.
I'm so proud of them.
And they're actually going to be at the Whiskey on January 12th.
So people that want to see a great band that's breaking LA Rocks could go to the Whiskey on the 12th of January.
joe rogan
It's always hard to get yourself into normal performance mode when you're doing a special.
It's like when everything's riding on this one night, you've got two shows to get it right.
Sometimes that pressure can be overwhelming.
andrew dice clay
And you want to know something?
I only wanted to do one.
And, you know, it was the people at Showtime that were smart enough to go, no, you're doing two.
And they were right, because I fucked up a few times in the first one.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's always hard to just do one.
andrew dice clay
I wasn't nervous.
I was excited about it, though.
You know, it's the nervous excitement, you know, and then you get that first laugh and you just loosen up.
But I was just so prepared.
I mean, like you said, you came to...
You know, Vegas and saw the show and saw me working on it.
And, you know, Vegas crowds aren't as great as crowds around the country.
You know, and that's another thing I like.
So it felt like the comedy store.
You know, because in Vegas there's a lot of variables going on.
There's gambling, drinking.
Fighting with your chick over losing the fucking money.
Now you're at a show, 10 at night.
And you're not even in the mood for that show.
So the crowds, you never get that full, amped up crowd that you would get when you're on the road doing a concert.
That they're just coming for the concert.
So when I got to Chicago...
And, you know, I hear the crowd before I even come on.
They're doing the dice, dice, dice.
I'm going, all right, this is the real deal now.
So, yeah, I fucked up a couple times in the first taping of it.
And, you know, and then I got angry.
It became dice mean, you know, for the second show.
And it just, I just delivered the way I knew I can.
joe rogan
One of the things that helped me, and this is, I think, would help you, too.
Doing a podcast helps your audience.
On stage, tremendously.
You get so used to talking to people, you get so used to doing things like live, that when I did the special in Atlanta, it was the most natural I'd ever felt being on stage.
Where'd you do it?
The Tabernacle.
I'd always had a problem with that.
When I was taping something, I'd be stiff and tight, and I never felt like I was completely loose.
andrew dice clay
So you were really happy with the outcome of your performance.
Forget about it.
joe rogan
I was 100% how I always am.
I was 100%.
I even said it while I was on stage.
I was like, this is the most relaxed I've ever been doing one of these things.
andrew dice clay
Because you were so prepared.
joe rogan
I prepared.
I put a lot of sets in to prepare, a lot of writing in to prepare.
I had all the material completely down.
But the audience is so fucking enthusiastic.
andrew dice clay
That's what you need.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're so fun.
andrew dice clay
And like I said, that's where we do parallel because we both draw crazy audiences.
People that are really out for the hardcore comedy.
You know what I mean?
So you really delivered it then.
joe rogan
Well, I am so happy that there's still guys out there that are doing anything controversial.
Because I think this is such a strange time when it comes to comedy.
You know, there's been so many from the Tosh thing to the Tracy Morgan thing to, you know, just fill in the blank of any comedian that says anything.
The Gilbert Godfrey thing when he got in trouble for a lot of shit.
It's like at a...
At a certain point in time, if you keep going down this super ultra-sensitive fucking stupid path...
andrew dice clay
Yeah, then there'll be no fun.
joe rogan
There's going to be no fun.
andrew dice clay
There'll be no comedy.
joe rogan
And, by the way, you're just saying what you don't like.
Okay?
You're saying you don't like it.
Well, fucking don't listen.
It's really simple.
If you're not into what a guy like Tracy Morgan would say or a guy like you would say, well, then don't fucking listen.
No one's requiring you to...
You can't tell me that it's bad.
You can't tell me that it's real.
You know it's a joke.
He's a fucking comedian.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, that shouldn't be, you know, it's like I say, these comics are being put on trial.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know, and, you know, there's even a bit that, you know, I do where I use the fag word.
joe rogan
Well, that's one of my favorite bits from your last thing.
andrew dice clay
Well, I did an interview for Rolling Stone like three weeks ago, and, you know, the guy asked me why I used the word fag.
You know, and I said, well, did you listen to the whole, and he listened to the whole show.
He watched the whole show.
And I said, do you see where I go with the bit?
What I'm really doing by the end of that bit is sticking up for the gay community, is what I'm doing.
It winds up about like, you know, when the guys were running, you know, trying out for president, whatever.
So it's about the whole marriage thing.
I don't want to do the bit on the air, but I go, that's what the bit's about.
If I would say, you know, catch gay rather than catch fag, I go, fag is a funny word.
You know what I mean?
And for people that don't like it, well, don't watch my show, but it's funny and that's who I am on stage.
But if you're going to talk about anything, talk about what the bit really turns into.
Not a word.
joe rogan
Have you ever done anything, any year old material that you look back now and you're like, I wouldn't do that today.
I wouldn't say that today.
unidentified
You know what?
andrew dice clay
I really don't have many regrets on the material.
I don't use too much of it in the special.
I do a couple of classic bits.
That's what I call them.
Like today, I was on Good Morning LA, and they played some of this midget bit that I've done for years.
But these are the new fans, so you give them some of the classic stuff.
You give them the mother goose.
But other than that, it's a 98% new act.
I've updated how I feel about different things.
Like I said, we're living in a different world, technology.
We're living in a world where women today are brought up on porn.
God forbid they don't have a profile shot or a bleached out asshole on their website or whatever.
They feel they're not happening.
You know, so everything is new, but it's got that, you know, real heavy bite to it, and it's got the anger that I like to bring to stage.
I mean, I couldn't do it like you.
I mean, when I see you screaming up there, I had a couple screaming ears, but not as intense.
Like, that's what would make me sit down and watch you.
I wanted to see how long can he scream?
How long can he put that energy out?
unidentified
And you could...
andrew dice clay
Back then, you were going like...
Two hours you could do, and just, I go, he loves it!
You know, it was almost like it was, it was more about, it was almost like you doing a verbal workout.
You know what I mean?
You know, it wasn't like, all right, I do A, B, C, D, and I'm done.
You would just go, and I'm going, kind of, what is this guy taking for that energy?
I'm watching you today talk about the different vitamins and everything that you're selling, and I'm going, he's taking something that could really make...
I'm thinking maybe I should take some of those fucking vitamins because you could really go for a long time at top volume.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not just about taking vitamins.
It's definitely about what you eat.
It's really important.
andrew dice clay
No, but I mean, the energy, that's what I love, because, you know, when somebody's putting out that kind of energy, it's watchable.
joe rogan
Well, you know, that's a good point that you brought up earlier we didn't touch back on, but the idea that there's something wrong with you if you're moving around or, like, putting out a lot of effort.
There was a time in comedy where guys, like, didn't respect anybody who didn't just stand still.
And just say it with your words.
And it's like, well, why would you lose, like, that performance?
Like, I would see a guy like maybe Jim Brewer as a good example, who's really physical on stage.
And I would see, like, the physical aspects of him moving around was really half the bit.
andrew dice clay
It adds to it.
joe rogan
Yeah, half the bit.
It's hilarious.
andrew dice clay
And any comic that doesn't believe that isn't a real performer.
joe rogan
Yeah, and when it comes for that, when it calls for that, rather, there's nothing wrong with doing it.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, but anybody, just pace a little.
joe rogan
But it became a thing.
Do you remember when it was like a thing amongst comedians that they didn't respect guys who put forth too much effort?
andrew dice clay
Well, when I came to the comedy still, because I had some, you know, at that time with the cassette tapes, I had my music on tapes, to do Travolta, and I would do the Grease Lightning number.
I felt like the Serpico of the comedy store because comics would go, you know, this is the music store, not the comedy store.
And I go, because you can't do that.
How does that sound?
You know, you just can't do that.
And you don't look like this to do that.
You're an ugly guy.
You know what I mean?
So you should be doing what you...
Oh, I had argument after argument with comics.
I go, well, you know what?
The club owner thinks I am funny.
joe rogan
Well, there's a weird thing amongst comedians where they want other comedians to be doing their kind of comedy.
It's ridiculous.
It's like a rapper going up to a guy who plays jazz and getting mad at him for liking the fucking flute.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I mean, you know, but, you know, I also feel with comics is, you know, not enough camaraderie.
I've told you that before.
joe rogan
Yeah, I agree.
Look, I agree.
andrew dice clay
You know, I just don't feel they back each other up enough.
That's why it's always good.
Like, when you came to my show, I was thrilled.
Because here's another comic that I respect coming to see me perform.
It's almost like, you know, Sinatra going to see Sammy Davis.
You know, like, they back each other up with it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very important to me.
I think, like, first of all, as I've gotten older and been doing stand-up longer and longer, the more I've appreciated the art form of it, you know, whether it's the style that you do or the style that...
even Seinfeld.
I'm a fan of any style of good, like...
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I love Seinfeld.
joe rogan
I love Gaffigan.
Gaffigan is fucking hilarious.
And it's very clean and, like, anybody can listen to it, you know?
I love that style as well.
I just...
Love the art form.
So for me, camaraderie between other comics, it's huge, huge, huge.
Very important.
andrew dice clay
But what I also like is, this I get a kick out of the non-camaraderie Of the cleaner comics to guys like us.
They look at us like, oh look who walked in.
We're the clean guys.
And Seinfeld always had his little group of guys, which I think are hysterical.
Him, Larry Miller, Paul Reiser, very clean.
To me, they're all similar in their styles on stage.
joe rogan
Well, I think Seinfeld, that was legitimately him, but there was a lot of guys that came up that were like...
andrew dice clay
No, it's legitimately him, but that whole group had like a certain start.
joe rogan
To me, I think he influenced, though.
What I'm saying is that there's a lot of guys that became Seinfeld-like.
There was a lot of very Seinfeld-like observational guys that I don't know if they would have been that way if it wasn't for Jerry, because Jerry had a very specific style that a lot of those clean guys imitated that style really clearly.
andrew dice clay
And it's really...
No, Seinfeld I love.
Larry Miller just kills me.
joe rogan
I love him on TV, acting.
I think he's one of the funniest guys ever.
andrew dice clay
Did you ever see his stand-up?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen his stand-up.
Yeah, I haven't seen in a long time.
I saw some old, old Evening of the Improvs.
andrew dice clay
Very funny guy, though.
unidentified
Very funny guy.
andrew dice clay
Just his sound effects and, you know, the way, you know, he's always shocked by things like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, a very bright guy, too.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, that's why I don't like to hang out with him.
unidentified
He is.
andrew dice clay
He's really smart.
joe rogan
You don't like it?
andrew dice clay
No, I love him, but, you know, we used to do, like, La Jolla together and everything and, you know, you know.
There was a story where we did a private party and the guy offered me like $1,000 to do a birthday party in La Jolla.
And I go over to Larry and I said, we'll split the money.
You opened for me at the birthday party.
And it was this big mansion and I think this is the guy that invented sex wax for surfboards.
And so we show up and I see a bunch of five-year-olds.
You know, and I'm going, you know, I called a guy and I go, you're really going to have me do my act?
And he goes, no, we got a clown for them.
You're for us.
We're going inside.
So it was all the adults.
And Larry goes up and I'm laughing.
He does his act.
And now he's sitting.
It was like one of those living rooms, step down living room.
So he's sitting on the step and he's watching me and he's laughing hysterically.
You know, and afterwards, you know, I'm asking him, I go, you see my act every night, why are you laughing so hard?
unidentified
He goes, do you know what a stupid man you are?
andrew dice clay
And I go, why?
He goes, you were using a $20,000 vase as your ashtray.
I go, what are you talking?
He goes, the big vase that was next to you.
You didn't know where to put your cigarette, so you were putting them in this.
The vase was bigger than me.
And he goes, and I couldn't stop laughing because everybody was looking at each other every time you flicked your cigarette in this vase.
unidentified
He goes, you're a very stupid man.
andrew dice clay
And it just, his delivery would just make me laugh my balls off.
No, I love those guys.
And I go, you know, Larry Miller's the guy that got me into the comic strip when I started out, you know, and that's where it all started with the monologist.
joe rogan
I've always hated that whole idea that there's like a good way to do comedy and then there's an easy way to do comedy.
Because why is it that when I would go to see a guy like you or watch a guy like Joey Diaz, why is it that I laugh so hard?
Like, what are you telling me?
Is something wrong with me?
andrew dice clay
Because it's balls out.
joe rogan
It is balls out.
I know I understand, but why is anybody saying that there's something wrong with that?
Like, there's a weird thing in people's hands.
andrew dice clay
You know, it's also the way you brought up.
You know what I mean?
Like, these are very clean-cut guys.
You know, and I love sci-fi.
I like them as a person.
I like them as a comic.
But, you know, these are guys that actually went to college.
You know, I don't know how to talk to them.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know, it's a different mindset, education-wise.
joe rogan
I understand all that, but it's reservations.
It's like they're reserved and uptight, whereas when you see someone like you or someone like Joey Diaz saying something completely outrageous, they can't go with it.
They can't just relax and go with it.
They're restricted.
They're pulled back.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, is that what they think?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's something, they just can't cut loose.
You can't be smart and enjoy a good dirty joke, but that's ridiculous.
Then you're obviously not smart enough.
Because you should be laughing at almost everything you could possibly laugh at.
andrew dice clay
Well, you know what?
Let me see one of these fucking clean motherfuckers sell 300 arena shows, and then I'll give it up for them.
joe rogan
It's very hard to sell an arena show.
andrew dice clay
You know, I mean, I did over 300 of those.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
andrew dice clay
You know, and nobody, you know, is ever going to top that.
Ever.
300 arena?
You know, and I did it without...
Like, I don't even...
joe rogan
What's an arena officially?
14,000?
How many thousand?
andrew dice clay
It could go anywhere from 15 to, you know, the biggest one I did was 21,500.
unidentified
Jesus!
andrew dice clay
And it was a 41-minute sellout.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
andrew dice clay
It was the Brendan Byrne in Jersey.
I mean, the LA Forum I sold out in a couple hours.
joe rogan
21,000 fucking people.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, well, picture doing 100,000 at the Rose Bowl with being the middle act for Metallica and Guns N' Roses.
joe rogan
So what happens between doing these incredible arenas and then slowly sort of backing away from comedy a little bit and not doing as much?
andrew dice clay
It was a slow thing, though.
I did the arenas.
For about six years, till around 95. And that's when it didn't go sour.
I mean, you know, at that point, you know, the movie career was sort of non-existent, you know, other than B-movies because of the backlash of my stand-up and the press.
And so there were no big movies coming, you know, after Ford failing, you know.
But even with the arenas, I would do cut-down arenas, like 10,000 seats a night.
And that went on for a while.
You know, then there were five...
You know, in this day, you do 5,000 seats today?
That's unreal.
You know, I mean, rock bands, you know, it's a different time.
It's a recession.
It's just a different time.
So, you know, when I see a comic doing...
2,000, 1,500, 2,000 seats, maybe 2,500 seats.
That's superstardom for a comic.
You know, I mean, think about it.
2,000 people a night coming to see you is unreal.
joe rogan
It's pretty weird.
andrew dice clay
I just, you know, always had this thing in my head, you know, because I was so bad.
Like I say, you know, my education was like non-existent.
I mean, school was just more of a place to go and hang out and play the drums twice a day.
You know, and if it wasn't for the drums and music, I probably would have never graduated high school.
Because school just didn't interest me.
You know, that's the bottom line.
So, you know, I wasn't good in sports.
Not that I wasn't a big guy.
I just wasn't good at it.
And, you know, by the time I was 12 years old, I was into all this stuff from doing impressions to playing the drums to, you know, that type of thing.
When I got into comedy, and I saw the kind of guys you're talking about, very straight monologists, you know, I just wanted to be an actor and, you know, use the comedy stage to develop my acting chops, and the dice thing happened, so I decided, well, if I'm going to stay in this game and be a comic, I want to create the most visually exciting comic people have ever seen in the world, ever.
You know, and honestly, you know, when you see the special, and I got great respect for you and what you do, but you're going to respect the special.
joe rogan
I would definitely respect it.
andrew dice clay
No, but I mean, you'll see what I mean, because I deliver exactly what, you know, all these fans I've had through the years want to see from me.
And I like giving them what they want to see.
I don't want to come up there all cleaned up with maybe...
You know, not a tie, but you know, a sport jacket and just black pants.
I'm like, for what?
You know what I mean?
This is how I like to dress.
You know, I look good enough to dress in it.
You know, so why not just deliver what they want to see and just pound them over the fucking heads with the filthiest shit that I could come up with because we're living in the filthiest time with the filthiest fucking people.
joe rogan
Yet the backlash is the strongest that it's ever been.
andrew dice clay
You know, but I don't care about the backlash anymore.
Years ago I did because I didn't get it, you know, because guys came before me, everybody from, you know, Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, guys.
So I'm going, what am I doing any different than them?
You know what I mean?
And so now I'm at a point in my life where if you don't like me, who gives a fuck for you?
I don't give a fuck if you see tomorrow.
That's how I think about it.
If a writer writes, if a journalist writes me up like a bad write-up, I'm like, well, what do I give a fuck?
Do I know this person?
Do I care what they fucking feel?
They're the ones writing me up.
joe rogan
Well, it's never fair anyway, because it's like, would a jazz critic review a hip-hop concert?
No, why would they?
It doesn't make any sense.
So for someone to be a comedy critic, it's like, wow, there's a lot of different kinds of comedy.
Just because you have a specific taste, a personal taste, doesn't mean the other comedy is bad.
andrew dice clay
It just means it's not for you.
Well, I come from...
Like I said, I like dealing with...
I love seeing the uncomfortability of people in the front row.
I love seeing...
joe rogan
Well, it's live performance, and that's one of the fun aspects of it.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, and if you're all clean up there, like...
You know, I just don't think I would have any fun.
joe rogan
I have fun, like, watching a guy, like I said, like Gaffigan or watching a guy like Seinfeld, but it's not the same kind of fun.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, but, you know, Seinfeld's one of a kind.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not the same kind of fun.
It's still not the same kind of fun as, like, watching a guy like you.
Because watching a guy like you, you'll say the most ridiculous shit ever.
One of the things that I was howling, I was howling is when I came backstage afterwards and I was talking to you about it.
I go, eh, you're like, I don't do any research.
Like we were talking about how to catch the catch.
unidentified
Because it's comedy.
andrew dice clay
It's just about the fucking laugh.
joe rogan
But it was like how you were just breaking down the whole process.
I do no research.
I claim no responsibility.
andrew dice clay
No responsibility.
If I was running for office, I'd have to do a little research.
For comedy, that's why I try to explain in that album, The Day the Laughter Died, that it's just about funny.
I don't care what it is.
Just be fucking funny.
And I got my rules.
I won't bring up a disaster where people get killed.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You won't make fun of John Travolta.
You have strong rules.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I do have strong rules in that way.
You know, like what happened with the hurricane.
There's no jokes for me when it comes to that stuff.
You know, because, you know, people are getting killed, and there's families that are mourning these people, so it's like, where do I have the right to make fun of that?
unidentified
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know, so I try to stay away from that kind of stuff, but when it comes to sex, come on, it's just sex, so it's okay.
joe rogan
Did you ever feel like at a time that you ever crossed the line, though, like, did you ever say anything, whether it's about immigrants or gay people or anything?
andrew dice clay
No, not when it comes to people, you know, like, you know, You know, when I make fun of Asians and call them Chinamen, you know, it's just funny.
It's a funnier word than Asian.
You know what I mean?
Chinamen, chink, it's all funny.
You know, it's a great word.
joe rogan
Well, if it was an angry Chinese dude, though, staring at you while you were talking about that.
andrew dice clay
You know what, I do it right to, you know, I talk about fat girls and sometimes I got chicks in the front row And I'm going, alright, so how much does the fat girl I talk about have to wait a night?
Because I've had some beasts sit in the fucking front row.
joe rogan
And so you have to double her fat girl's weight.
andrew dice clay
But like my wife says, fat girls love me because I talk about them.
But, you know, when I'm talking about a chick that's bigger than the bed I'm fucking her on, You know, it's funny.
You know, because no girl in the crowd is going to go, well, I'm not bigger than an Eastern King.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
They look at themselves like little.
unidentified
Right.
andrew dice clay
Because I'm not looking to hurt them.
I'm just looking to be funny.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know, and let them laugh, too.
Fat girls are allowed to laugh.
joe rogan
They are, but they don't particularly...
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
andrew dice clay
The fucking blubber starts to jiggle and shit.
joe rogan
They don't particularly like fat girl jokes, though, in my experience.
andrew dice clay
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know.
unidentified
I'll tell you, the fat girls in my crowd, they like it.
andrew dice clay
They really like it.
They're literally rolling in the fucking aisle.
You know, I've had a girl throw herself on the floor and start rolling around that I'm looking like this is hysterical.
It happened once.
You know, I've had a heckle fight with an 86-year-old woman.
joe rogan
Really?
andrew dice clay
That I had to come into the middle of a crowd on on New Year's Eve and just give her a big kiss.
It was in San Antone, Texas.
joe rogan
Goddamn.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, and this 86, she was like, you know, I know they're not, whatever part of America, I don't follow the map that much with the geographical shit.
But she sounded Southern, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
San Antonio, Texas?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, they have that twang to them.
And she's like, it was like one of those skinny, she was 86 or 87, slapping her knee going, you dirty motherfucker!
You are a dirty, and she's as filthy as me.
You know, that was one of my greatest heck, and it's something I didn't get on.
I wasn't even filming back.
I was probably, you know, 27. Yeah, I've had some great heckle fights in the days where they would actually look to throw lines at you.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
Rather than just being drunk, you fucking suck.
What do you do with that?
joe rogan
The store is one of the worst places ever.
For heckling.
First of all, because there's no crowd control, and second of all, because Hollywood is always filled with people that are unhappy.
Most people are not achieving their dreams here.
The majority of people are struggling.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, they fail.
joe rogan
Yeah, the majority.
And you get a lot of, like, wannabe actors, wannabe musicians, wannabe...
andrew dice clay
Yeah, if you're at the Comedy Store and go, well, what do you do?
Well, I'm an actor.
Okay, good for you.
But that guy could wind up a superstar.
unidentified
Oh, he could, yeah.
andrew dice clay
This is the place.
joe rogan
Look, it is possible.
andrew dice clay
But it's fun to piss on it.
joe rogan
There's a lot of that bitterness that's in the air, and there's a lot of that in the crowd.
It was one of the reasons why it was such a good place to work out, because that was not an impressed audience.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were not impressed with you.
brian redban
I got heckled the other day by a guy in a wheelchair, and he comes there, I guess, once in a while, but he can't talk or move.
He has one of those where he just has a thousand computers and cell phones in front of him.
unidentified
And they put him right in the front.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
He has cell phones and computers?
andrew dice clay
He's hooked up to everything but a fax machine.
joe rogan
Does his hands work?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
One hand works to move and one hand is just pushing iPad buttons and stuff and doing things.
unidentified
And he talks through that?
He doesn't really talk.
He just goes like that.
And so while you're on stage, they put him right in the front row too.
The whole show, he's just going...
But then he'll say something that means...
He's like, fuck my dick!
And stuff like that.
And he's just fucking saying these horrible things the whole time.
andrew dice clay
I just like that he's attracted to you.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Wow, he wants you to blow him.
unidentified
But no, he's just fucking with you.
And he just fucks with every single comic, and he sits there from like 7 o'clock, whatever, that open mic show, all the way to like 2 in the morning.
joe rogan
Why don't they get him out?
unidentified
I don't know.
It drives everybody crazy.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, because that's a club to work the new stuff out.
It always sucks when you have a guy...
That you just have to handle rather than work your material.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, the other problem is when someone before you doesn't deal with a heckler and then you've got to go up and then it's already out of control because they already feel like that's a part of the show.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, and they continue the bullshit.
joe rogan
Well, and also, let's be honest, at the comedy store there's a lot of fucking people that...
They just, for whatever reason, they're still doing stand-up, but they checked out a long time ago.
andrew dice clay
Long time ago.
joe rogan
Sort of going through the motions, and it's not very good material, and for whatever reason, they don't have any talent, for whatever reason.
And you'll see them go on stage, and then these hecklers start eating them up.
And then you have to go up and back clean up, you know, clean up on aisle nine.
andrew dice clay
But you know what I do?
When I do go on, I always make like there's nobody on before me.
You know, and just start from zero.
I don't care if somebody had a fight with somebody in the crowd.
I'm not going up there to, like you're saying, like just one comic, you know, like the whole lineup is one comic.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know, getting into it with this one person.
You know, I just start from zero, and if somebody says something, Dice Mean comes out, and hopefully I handle it right there and then.
joe rogan
The Comedy Store was the best workout for that place.
andrew dice clay
It's the greatest.
I've gone through a lot of stuff.
I used to get to open Fetty Murphy there all the time.
Mitzi would use me to, no, to go on after him.
joe rogan
Yes.
andrew dice clay
Because nobody wanted to go on after him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
You know, and, you know, those kind of things are like an honor at that time.
You know, and, you know, that's how you got to meet some of those guys.
Like, you know, and Murphy was always like, and I didn't understand it at the time when he would be like nervous to go out there like on a Monday night in the main room.
And I go, what are you nervous about?
They're all here for you.
You know, I didn't get it because once you have that fame, now you have to live up to it.
I was just excited about going on after the guy.
I got to follow Pryor at the store after the burn incident and everybody was coming to see him.
You had Sammy Davis sitting on the floor with his legs folded.
You had Burt Reynolds there with Sally Fields.
You had De Niro there with Scorsese.
And I would come up there like I was playing a bowling alley and just go into it and just make sure I kicked their ass every time.
joe rogan
Mitzi putting you on after Strong Axe was a big move for everybody.
Big move for me and one of the guys that I had to follow up.
unidentified
Who'd you get to follow?
joe rogan
I followed you a lot.
I followed you a lot in the early days, like in the 94-ish.
andrew dice clay
Wow.
joe rogan
And when I first started coming there, she would throw me on after you.
I followed prior.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, because you need an animal to follow an animal.
joe rogan
Not only that, it's good for you to go on after someone strong because you realize you can't have any fluff in your act, you can't have any bullshit, you've got to cut right to the funny stuff, you've got to impress them right away, get them right off the bat, hold on to them.
It's a good exercise in learning, especially when they loved the guy before.
You would be up, fucking destroy.
And then some unknown person has to go on after you.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, but that's where Mitzi was great.
joe rogan
Yes, she was great.
andrew dice clay
She would pick the right guy for that.
joe rogan
Martin Lawrence, I used to have to go on after him a lot.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I never followed Martin.
Eddie, I followed him a lot.
joe rogan
When Martin was in his prime, I'll tell you, Martin did not have as long a prime as a lot of people did for whatever reason, and he got into movies, and he kind of doesn't do as much specials anymore.
andrew dice clay
And I love him.
He's like one of my all-time favorites.
joe rogan
He's fucking hilarious.
And oh my god, he destroyed the main room at the comedy store one night.
Just leveled the place.
And I had to go on after him.
andrew dice clay
Because he was just funny.
Just to look at him is funny.
You know what I mean?
And he knew it, and he'd play off of it.
He's one of my favorites.
joe rogan
I felt like a rank amateur when I had to go on after him.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, because especially if it's one of those nights in the main room where that guy's audience is there...
joe rogan
As soon as I got on stage, most people got up and left.
It was only like maybe 20% of the people stayed.
And even them, I was just like this.
andrew dice clay
But he's out there now.
He's doing concerts.
joe rogan
Is he doing it again?
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
joe rogan
He is.
andrew dice clay
I mean, I don't know how big it is.
I don't know, you know, the schedule.
But I know he was at the store really working stuff.
joe rogan
Well, that's great.
I hope he can bring it back to form, the way he was when he was on top of it.
andrew dice clay
You know what?
He's great.
He's great in the movies.
I love him.
I love Eddie Murphy, you know, as far as, you know, raw comics go.
But Martin, I always loved him the best because it was his actions on stage.
And he's a guy that knew how to play the stage.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
He'd be all over the place.
I mean, I loved his first special.
joe rogan
What was your first years at the store?
What year was it?
andrew dice clay
I came out there still, it was the beginning of 79. February of 79. Wow, the fucking 70s.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
And you guys were living in that house on Crest Hill?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, in Crest Hill.
joe rogan
I almost bought that place.
Couldn't have a big enough yard for the dogs, though.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, there is no yard.
unidentified
There's no yard.
andrew dice clay
You just fall off the mountain.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I looked at it.
andrew dice clay
I lived in that house for six years.
That house was crazy.
joe rogan
That house has got some fucking history to it.
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a crazy house.
That's the only reason why I was thinking about it.
I was like, this is such a historic place.
andrew dice clay
Everybody, you know, Robin used to come up there all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
You know, some of the bigger name, and I wouldn't even talk to these guys.
I would never talk to a big-name celebrity unless they would talk to me.
Because I know what they're thinking the minute you say hello.
What move are you doing and what's my part?
So I would never bother.
Even when Robin would come up to the house, I would be like, just stay away.
I mean, great talent, but I wouldn't look to get in his face and go, well, I'm doing this.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
And I used to have to follow him, too, at the store.
joe rogan
Well, you knew intuitively that it would be annoying as fuck.
andrew dice clay
Well, you know, that's what gets me when I go there.
These guys, they cross the boundary a lot of times.
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
You know, and then they want, you know, it starts with the pictures, and, you know, I'm a comic, and, you know, they want to be buddy-buddy, and I can't, you know, I don't work that way.
joe rogan
Yeah, some guy hit me with a fucking sales pitch the other day after a show.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, they don't let you come down from the show.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I was taking photos with this whole line of people, and this guy just starts rattling off the sales pitch, and just...
I mean, it's going on for like several minutes, and I'm just supposed to listen and start up and this and that.
And after a while, I go, dude, stop.
I go, I can't do that.
Stop.
I don't have any time for anything, and I'm definitely not going to go into business with you.
I don't even know you.
This is crazy.
But the fucking sales pitch was just, ready, go.
Like, this is opportunity.
andrew dice clay
But that's also what...
joe rogan
It's misdirected energy is what it is.
andrew dice clay
It's the new generation.
See, that's what gets me...
Like, you know, when you grow up and all you're doing is looking down at your phone, You know, when it finally, you hit that age where you have to start communicating face to face with people, they don't know how to do it.
unidentified
Right.
andrew dice clay
You've got to shake someone's hand that's like shaking a fucking limp fucking dick.
joe rogan
Yep.
andrew dice clay
You know, they don't even know how to give a firm grip.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
You know, what the fuck is that about?
joe rogan
What is that about?
andrew dice clay
No, but I'm serious.
That says something about somebody's character.
Well, you know, if you can't say, yeah, how you doing?
You know, and it's like, I'm like, what is that?
joe rogan
It's for a lot of people.
It's not good to be manly.
andrew dice clay
No people skills, I'm telling you.
joe rogan
They don't want to be manly.
They can't handle it.
andrew dice clay
It's not about being manly.
They just don't know how to relate to you unless they're texting to you.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
Or emailing to you.
They just don't know how to have conversation.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's definitely a lot of that going on.
There's a lot of people that are growing up in a society that is more and more encouraging people to control themselves and And to calm themselves down and to not have as much fun and to be more conscious of how other people are going to view things and be more sensitive.
andrew dice clay
If a kid has a fucking personality in school, they want to put him on Ritalin.
It's true.
They want kids sitting like mute.
joe rogan
And they want to pretend that school is interesting.
It's not interesting.
The whole policy of breaking a child down, getting them to sit in position and absorb information that they don't find attractive.
That whole policy is conditioning someone to just listen and be a fucking drone.
That's what it is.
It's not the best way to learn, by far, by any stretch of the imagination.
A best way to learn would be some sort of a one-on-one instruction where, you know, you get to explain to them things over and over again, and you get to answer all questions.
andrew dice clay
But I will say, when we went to school, at least you could have a personality in that classroom.
Today, if you're not just quiet and sitting there, like you're saying, you know, you're not a good student.
joe rogan
Well, that's mad.
The quiet and sitting there is the madness.
The ability to just sit there.
I remember when I was a little kid and they would want me to sit down.
You'd be all of a sudden like you're listening to something that's not fun at all.
unidentified
You know what?
joe rogan
After you've just gotten done running around with your friends.
andrew dice clay
And I wonder what even goes on now because of the phones and the iPads and all the shit they bring to school now.
You know, does that even, you know, like do your kids tell you with that stuff?
joe rogan
I'm sure they're listening to music in class with their headphones on.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I'm saying, it must drive the teachers fucking berserk.
joe rogan
Yeah, it must.
And you know what?
This is just, wait till they got those fucking Google glasses.
And, you know, they have these glasses that they're coming out with that you wear.
And you're seeing things in the glasses, like emails, and you can go to websites.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially the glasses like yours, nice big ones.
This is a big-ass screen.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, nobody will see anybody.
joe rogan
You can see all your shit up there.
You can see all your photos.
You can be fucking flipping through them by using your finger in the air.
I'm not joking.
unidentified
No, but it's funny if you think you're sitting in class like this.
joe rogan
You'll be able to do that and do that in front of your eyes and make them move and you'll be able to pick ones and stretch them.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, and how are teachers going to deal with that shit?
joe rogan
They're not.
andrew dice clay
They're going to have to have rules with that shit.
joe rogan
It'll be called a no-touch interface.
It'll all be like finger movements.
You'll just be doing things with your finger.
It's going to be fucking insane.
That's just the beginning.
It's going to keep going further and further until you get something planted into your fucking eyeball.
They have contact lenses too now that do it.
andrew dice clay
You know, that's not for me.
I don't believe in contacts.
I never did.
joe rogan
But the contact lenses that allow you to see email and shit on them.
andrew dice clay
I just don't believe in contacts.
joe rogan
Not at all?
unidentified
No.
Nothing?
joe rogan
Why?
andrew dice clay
I just don't believe in them.
joe rogan
But you believe in glasses.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, definitely.
joe rogan
Do you have like a Lasix issue?
Could you go do that?
andrew dice clay
No.
joe rogan
You wouldn't do it?
andrew dice clay
I'm just nearsighted.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
andrew dice clay
So I try to wear sunglasses that people could see through.
You could see me good, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So nearsighted means things that are close to you, you have a hard time seeing?
andrew dice clay
No, things that are kind of far away.
joe rogan
Oh, so you see things close, fine.
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
joe rogan
But things that are, hmm, I thought that was farsighted.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, when you're farsighted, that's where you can't see things right here.
joe rogan
That's me, man.
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm jacked.
andrew dice clay
Do you wear glasses?
joe rogan
No.
It's not that bad.
I mean, I can read my phone and shit.
unidentified
It's pretty bad, too.
joe rogan
Is it bad?
unidentified
But let me ask you, now that you put out the special.
joe rogan
No, it can't be your dad has glasses.
unidentified
I know, but he can actually still look at his phone.
joe rogan
Well, I can look at my phone.
What are you talking about?
You're exaggerating.
unidentified
Yeah, how big is your text?
joe rogan
It's not big.
I stopped doing that.
andrew dice clay
Now that you put out your special, are you going to tour?
joe rogan
I should question you.
andrew dice clay
You're always asking me all these questions.
joe rogan
You know what I'm doing right now?
andrew dice clay
I want to see if I'm any good at this podcast.
joe rogan
Writing a gang of new...
You totally would be good.
That's what I was saying before.
You should totally do a podcast.
andrew dice clay
Because if I get people on I don't like, I'm not going to be nice.
I don't think I would be.
joe rogan
That's good.
That's good.
That's even better.
That's even more fun.
andrew dice clay
No, but I don't want to just...
Shred people.
But you don't have to.
I'll have a podcast on for three weeks.
You don't want to be on there.
joe rogan
When you and I talk, we don't shred each other.
andrew dice clay
But we like each other.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I'm saying it wouldn't automatically be you not liking the people.
You're assuming that.
I don't think it's necessary.
andrew dice clay
Because I don't get along with a lot of people.
And that's in real life.
That's not on stage.
joe rogan
Well, you and I have always gotten along.
And I think a big part of it had to be that I was a huge fan when I was a kid.
andrew dice clay
No, but it's like you brought up last time about the first time we talked because, you know, I was starting to know your history a little with the TV show and stuff.
And that's why I spoke to you about the road.
You know, I was like, you don't go on the road?
You have a sitcom on the air.
Like, what are you waiting for?
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know, and I think that's when you really started going out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was really good advice.
andrew dice clay
It wasn't course of me, but it was the natural purpose.
joe rogan
No, it was very good advice, and I didn't even think about it.
And also, I was just assuming that I would always have a sitcom role, which is really dumb.
Because, like, why would you assume that any...
Those things never last, you know?
And it lasted for five years.
unidentified
Five years.
joe rogan
But once I started going on the road, that's when my stand-up really got a lot better.
andrew dice clay
Because the one thing I could tell with you when you're on stage is you love it.
See, that's the key, and you never lost that love for it.
So did you want to have done another special?
joe rogan
No, it's fun.
It's still fun.
It's too fun.
andrew dice clay
Are you going to tour a lot now with this?
joe rogan
I'm trying to write a lot of new shit right now.
So I've got at least 40 new minutes of new stuff and then a gang of stuff in the notebook that I have to break out.
andrew dice clay
Do you actually sit and write it?
joe rogan
Yeah, I write.
andrew dice clay
Or do you just go on stage?
joe rogan
I do both.
I do a lot of making up on stage.
There's a lot of shit like I'll go on tangents.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, you'll have an idea.
joe rogan
But there's a lot of it that I actually sit in front of a computer and write.
I think to get the best results, I like both.
I like actual writing, sitting down writing things out, and then I like performing.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, my son Max, he loves to write it.
joe rogan
I just think that when you take a lot of time, when you sit in front of a computer taking a lot of time, you're going to come up with more possibilities than you will in the moment.
In the moment is great, too.
But I think it's not an either-or thing, rather.
I think for comedians, I think it's important to both write, to sit down and actually work on your shit by yourself, and to do it on stage and just ad-lib and fuck around.
That's how I have the best results.
That's what I always tell you.
Like young guys, they say, I'd like to write on stage.
I'm like, keep doing that.
Definitely keep writing on stage.
But you should also write.
You should also sit down and write.
Because you get the most out of it.
andrew dice clay
See, I only do it on stage.
unidentified
Only on stage.
andrew dice clay
That's where I'll come up with stuff.
Not that I'm a genius with it.
It doesn't happen every night.
joe rogan
So you don't ever sit down with a notebook or anything?
Never.
andrew dice clay
And what I love is that I finally, to give her a little credit, she doesn't want to be on the air or anything, but she'll tailor the bit.
Like if I come up with something and it goes a little too long, she'll explain why it's got to be...
She really gets it.
And I'll shorten the bit up and I'll be on stage and I'll kill with it.
I'll be like, how the fuck does she know?
You know, because she wants anything but the limelight.
You know what I mean?
And it's like, she just gets it.
You know, she'll go, you don't understand.
Once you hit this point, you don't have to go further with it.
That's it.
That's the joke.
End it there.
You know, and because of her Latin background, it's like, all right, I'll end it there.
But she's normally right, 99% of the time.
It'll be killer.
joe rogan
It's a funny thing with stand-up comedy.
You never know where the bit's gonna go when you first start it.
You start adding on to it and stretching it out.
andrew dice clay
I would never listen to anybody about what I do on stage, especially a non-comic, and she's not a comedian.
You know, it would be like, look, when I'm on stage, do me a favor, stay out of it.
You know, I didn't become who I am because I was listening to my girlfriends.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know what I mean?
But she really gets it.
And every time she comes up with something and I do it, it kills.
Which angers me.
joe rogan
A lot of comics like to work with people.
I know Chris Rock, when he would do a special, he would work with a team of guys.
He would work with Voss and Nick DiPaolo, and they would come up with the bits and work on them together.
andrew dice clay
DiPaolo's a good comic.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
But I don't think any comic that's a really great comic, and I think DiPaolo's great.
joe rogan
Yeah, he is a great comic.
andrew dice clay
But I don't think he's going to look to write a better act than he has for somebody else.
joe rogan
It's true.
andrew dice clay
It's just in your head.
It's true.
If you come up with something fantastic when you're writing for something, you're going to go, you know what, I'm going to put this on the side.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
This is for me.
I'll give credit.
That's why I also believe in being an original, like that you know it comes from you.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think that's important.
You know, when I hear that a guy had a bunch of writers help him work on a special, it's just...
andrew dice clay
But that's why you also went nuts with, you know, with the Mencia thing when he was stealing the, you know...
joe rogan
That guy was...
andrew dice clay
That's stealing material, but I'm talking about when others are writing it for you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
It's like how...
It doesn't feel organic.
joe rogan
It doesn't, but I don't care.
That doesn't bother me.
I don't think that a musician should have to sing his own songs that he wrote.
I don't think that a comic should have to tell...
I think if one of your friends writes a joke for you, you should be able to do it on stage.
andrew dice clay
You know, Wheels actually comes up with great stuff for me.
joe rogan
Does he really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there's nothing wrong with that.
But I feel like...
andrew dice clay
But he knows me so well.
If I'm doing like a bit on the hairy box...
You know what I mean?
You know, verse, you know, the bald monkey, whatever the fuck they want to call it today.
You know, like I'll just call him up and I'll start coming up with stuff and he'll just add these things and I go, why don't you do that for you?
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
andrew dice clay
Because he's such a peculiar character.
joe rogan
He's a very peculiar character.
andrew dice clay
When he comes up with something for me...
You know, I'll just, like, do it and kill with it.
It could just be...
Well, he did get me banned from one TV show here.
joe rogan
Wheels did?
andrew dice clay
Because I listened to him.
There's something wrong with me.
joe rogan
Wheels tried to tell me that he was, like, a pool hustler.
unidentified
He's a genius.
andrew dice clay
You know what he's doing?
He's got an entertainment company, Blue Light Entertainment.
He's got a catering company.
joe rogan
I heard his food's very good.
andrew dice clay
It is!
That's what's so nuts!
joe rogan
I have some of it at the Comedy Store way back.
andrew dice clay
The Cannoli Kids.
He'll love that I'm saying this too.
But he really...
I went a couple years ago and I had to do another morning show.
You know, and I was getting heavy into the technology stuff about the phones, this and that.
So as I'm driving there, he's talking to me.
He goes, all I want you to say, if you bring up technology, is that you don't have a BlackBerry, and the only thing you want black is laying underneath you, and it's got a big fat ass, and the only thing you want buried is your face in it.
That's your BlackBerry.
You know?
So I do it.
Just the way he tells me to do it, and you could feel the air stop.
It's 8 in the morning to Los Angeles, and I'm going, yeah, I don't believe in the phone thing.
I don't like those blackberries.
The only thing I want black is normally underneath me with a big fat ass, and the only thing buried is my face in it.
And then it's just quiet in the studio, and you felt it.
And of course, my publicist was told he could never be on this show again.
joe rogan
What the fuck did they think they were going to get?
If they're bringing it, it's hilarious.
andrew dice clay
But I was just so into the joke driving there that I didn't think it was that bad.
I'm going, well, I'm not cursing.
It's not that bad.
Yeah, it's not that bad.
joe rogan
If they know it's you, it's Andrew Dice Clay.
andrew dice clay
But 8 in the morning, when people are shaving and getting ready for work, and there's a black woman on screen with me, right next to me, they're looking like, what the fuck is this?
So today when I did this other, you know, Fox News, I was nice.
joe rogan
You worry about them sabotaging you or setting you up or, you know, like ready to go after you?
andrew dice clay
You know, those kind of shows, they're always very cool with me, so I always felt bad about the Blackberry joke because I wasn't looking to offend anybody.
I was just looking to be funny.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know, and to me it was a funny joke.
And Wheels told me to say it, which they should ban him.
joe rogan
They should understand, first of all, that you're a dirty comedian.
You've always been, and they shouldn't be shocked by that.
andrew dice clay
But I'm also an adult that shouldn't be listening to my friend, you know, telling me to do this joke on the way to the radio, the TV station.
joe rogan
I don't see that being your fault.
I think people are too fucked up.
andrew dice clay
I think it's Wheels' fault.
joe rogan
I think.
We could blame Wheels if you would like.
But he is funny.
I would rather blame the news people.
I remember that time when you were on CNN. Well, that guy had it coming.
That was ridiculous, but it was great.
That was also a good viral video for you because it was clear that it didn't make any sense that this guy was saying that you ran a gym for a while.
andrew dice clay
Well, I just did another CNN thing that will air on Saturday that actually Alan Duke Was the interviewer and Tom Green produced it.
joe rogan
Tom Green, the comedian?
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh.
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
We did a two-camera shoot for this interview.
unidentified
Oh, that's cool.
andrew dice clay
Oh, he's great.
And I can't believe how his hand...
You know me, I'm always doing the filming.
And he's holding this heavy camera and he's...
He just becomes a filmmaker at that point.
You know, he's really great.
I'm good friends with Tom.
joe rogan
I love Tom Green.
andrew dice clay
He's phenomenal.
joe rogan
We've got to get him back in here, Brian.
You talked to him, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, me and Tommy G. He's a good dude.
That's his tough guy name, Tommy G. So you guys did another...
joe rogan
Who was the guy who did the original interview with you?
The one where you yelled at him...
andrew dice clay
Well, that guy, you know, the guy that interviewed me was basically saying that guy's like, you know, that was it.
You know, that guy made a mistake, he paid the price, and that was it, because he is a CNN reporter that had no facts about him.
joe rogan
Yeah, did that, here it is right here.
Turn this on.
unidentified
For a while, you were actually running a gym?
Tell us about that.
andrew dice clay
Running a gym?
unidentified
Weren't you running a gym at some point?
andrew dice clay
You're supposed to be a news guy.
Weren't you getting your fucking information?
unidentified
That's our research.
You weren't.
andrew dice clay
You weren't.
This is ridiculous.
Like, come on, CNN, and the guy don't even know what he's talking about.
unidentified
Go ahead.
You're at no point where you're running a gym?
andrew dice clay
No, no, running a gym?
What, you need a workout or something?
Jesus fucking Christ, with these guys that come on the news for two seconds, and you want to say...
Every time I do an interview, a guy wants to open his fucking mouth.
unidentified
Can't even do a little fucking routine here.
andrew dice clay
You know what, go fuck yourself, you know what?
unidentified
We'll go back to talking about Art Carney.
We'll be back in just a moment to fill you in on the Art Carney situation.
joe rogan
That guy's gone.
That's it.
andrew dice clay
Any career he might have had is over.
joe rogan
How could you just ask someone and say that your research shows he owned a gym?
There was the internet back then.
andrew dice clay
You want to know something?
What was crazy is, and the guy knew it, that the next night I was at the Beacon Theater and it was oversold.
It was gone.
joe rogan
Why was he trying to pretend that you went away from stand-up and that you weren't doing it and were running a gym?
andrew dice clay
The way I would put it, I'd go, his mommy probably didn't like me.
So he was going to get me for her, this little cocksucker.
joe rogan
I wonder where that guy is right now.
I'd look to Tosh.0.
andrew dice clay
Where he is, he's now delivering newspapers.
That's where he is.
unidentified
That's a good Tosh.0 for sure.
joe rogan
That would be a real good Tosh.0.
andrew dice clay
What is that guy's name?
I don't even know his name.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Are you friends with Tosh?
andrew dice clay
I don't know him.
I don't know him.
joe rogan
He's a good guy.
andrew dice clay
I watched the show a little though.
joe rogan
Very good guy.
Very funny guy too.
But that would be an interesting thing.
Yeah, we need to find out homeboy's name.
The internet will tell us.
Hey, on Twitter, who's that fucking guy?
Who's that fucking guy and where is he?
unidentified
Alright?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, what's he doing?
joe rogan
See if we can get him.
andrew dice clay
Look how focused he is.
joe rogan
Maybe he would be a good guy to interview, and you could play that.
andrew dice clay
You have us on together.
joe rogan
Yeah, that would be too intimidating for him.
andrew dice clay
Give a chance for him to apologize.
joe rogan
He wouldn't do it.
He'd be sad.
He'd be sad-faced.
andrew dice clay
I forgot how many, but that got millions of hits, that thing.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sure it did.
andrew dice clay
I watched it at least 20. You know, I love it.
I love it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was great.
andrew dice clay
Because when you're doing, especially CNN, which is, aren't they the top news show in the world?
How don't you have some facts?
I mean, you have way more facts than this guy ever had.
You know, and you're a comedian.
joe rogan
Well, he was, what he was doing was just sort of judging you as a joke.
You know, he was like, well, here we go.
We're doing an interview with some, you know, like his thing.
andrew dice clay
Oh, he paid the price.
joe rogan
It wasn't that he was diminishing you.
Let's talk a little bit about your career height.
andrew dice clay
I can't believe it.
unidentified
You, of course, you were a headline guy.
andrew dice clay
I'm still a headline guy, you know what I mean?
unidentified
For a while you popped out, now you're coming back.
For a while you were actually running a gym.
Tell us about that.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, that I never understood.
Running a gym.
joe rogan
Well, everybody wants to think that just you have to have all of your information and you have to have all your ducks in a row and your fax check to be on television.
That's just not the case.
Like, you could get on one of those shows and have ridiculous opinions and then they fucking fire you.
I mean, it's happened a million times before.
andrew dice clay
Well, this guy really paid, I think.
joe rogan
He disappeared.
But he probably sucked anyway.
That was a shitty interview.
Why would he talk to you like that?
andrew dice clay
Because he's an asshole.
Because he didn't do any fact-checking.
Because, like I said, you could tell this isn't a guy that would be into dice.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, he's also one of those guys.
andrew dice clay
But even if you're not, don't these guys talk to everybody?
joe rogan
Yeah, he has that fake way of talking.
You know, that sort of fake, on-television way of talking.
andrew dice clay
Oh, and when he came out, I could tell something was up because, you know, I was trying to, like, you know, a little pre...
Not a pre-interview, but, you know, how you doing?
Before you sit down and talk.
And he was, like, ignoring me.
You know, and I was actually there with Eleanor and Happy Face.
joe rogan
He was ignoring you because he didn't want to talk to you until the camera was on?
andrew dice clay
No, there were no cameras on us.
joe rogan
But he didn't want to talk to you until the camera was on, maybe.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, like how don't you, even when you do a talk show, they come over to you for a few minutes, you know, the host before you go on.
This guy didn't even want to talk.
And I wish Eleanor was here to tell the story because when you're sitting there doing the interview, behind you, you know, it's in New York and it's just a full floor of people with computers on the desk.
So Eleanor said, when you first cursed, she goes, you're talking about a couple hundred people on this floor with computers.
Everything stopped and they all just looked up at their computer.
And then it continued, and then everybody leaned forward to go, is this really airing right now?
They couldn't believe it was airing, and then we just ran out of there and got in a cab like we just robbed a bank.
joe rogan
Well, CNN is not broadcast television.
So CNN is not held to the same restrictions that the FCC imposes on NBC or CBS or ABC. That's a cable.
So when you're on cable, you can say shit.
We can say whatever you want.
It's up to whether or not your advertisers are willing to still support you while you do that.
So you weren't breaking any laws.
But if you had done that on like ABC Nightline News or something like that, then you would have broken a law.
And then shit, if they found you like that you did it willing, you could slip up.
I just fucking got, oh, sorry.
You know, you could have one of those situations, but if you clearly, like, this fucking asshole over here, and like, you know, clearly, like, that today, I think, is like, that's a serious fine.
I think that's like a quarter million dollars, and I think you can...
andrew dice clay
To the person saying it?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can get in a lot of trouble for that.
andrew dice clay
I gotta remember that.
I'm glad I didn't curse this man.
joe rogan
But the way you did it on CNN... His name's Peter Arnett, I believe.
That's his name?
When you did it on CNN, though, it was like just doing it on HBO. It's like the same thing, really.
andrew dice clay
This guy probably just sits there all day and goes, everybody has seen this.
Just everybody has seen this.
joe rogan
Well, another half a million are going to see it now.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, that's for sure.
joe rogan
That's silly fuck.
andrew dice clay
The Rogan podcast.
joe rogan
It's very funny when you have a guy like that.
Those guys, they kill me, those buttoned-up guys.
That's not him.
That is not the guy.
andrew dice clay
That's what he turned into after that.
joe rogan
Gained 150 pounds.
Started a slumping.
andrew dice clay
Fucking jerk off.
He's still a jerk off for doing that.
joe rogan
Well, maybe he feels bad and he's not anymore.
No?
Never forget?
andrew dice clay
You think he feels bad?
unidentified
Probably not.
andrew dice clay
The only thing he regrets is that that happened.
That's all.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, unless he evolved.
Maybe he went on a mushroom trip somewhere.
Maybe he went down to Peru.
Got his brain cleaned out.
It's possible.
andrew dice clay
I don't like him.
I don't want to get a fine.
joe rogan
Well, you don't get a fine on the internet.
On the internet, you can do whatever the fuck you want.
andrew dice clay
I love this show.
It's so relaxed here.
Babe, you having a good time here so far?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Mrs. Dice Clay.
andrew dice clay
Mrs. Dice Clay.
joe rogan
In the background.
andrew dice clay
She doesn't go on the air.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's cool that you guys have this happy touring thing, too.
You guys are happy together in Vegas, having a good time.
You bring your family out.
You have your kids open for you.
Illinois is your friend.
She's there.
You have a nice, happy...
andrew dice clay
Yeah, it's my little group.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's nice.
andrew dice clay
You know, the sister-wives, the whole thing.
joe rogan
I like how you did it in Vegas, too, because I had always wondered whether or not someone could use Vegas as a workout room.
andrew dice clay
No, I love that.
But now I'm actually moving to the Hard Rock in Vegas.
joe rogan
Well, yeah.
But what I meant was, like, I always wondered, like, if you went to Vegas, like, would you have to have the same act over and over again?
Or could you use...
You're the first guy that I heard of that, like, used Vegas, like you said, like the store.
andrew dice clay
Just go there and fuck around.
Yeah, but it's a tourist town, so every week you get a different audience, a different convention.
I don't know why you don't do it more.
joe rogan
You're right.
I should.
I probably should.
andrew dice clay
So many comics are moving there, living there, you know.
joe rogan
Well, I'm doing it in February.
I'm at the Mandalay Bay, the big room, on February 1st.
And it's the day before the UFC. It's basically the same.
You're going to like that.
andrew dice clay
I've done that room, too.
joe rogan
It's where, yeah, but I can't sell that many tickets.
So they cut it in half and then...
andrew dice clay
Yeah, but even cut in half is 800 seats cut.
I know the room.
I've done it a lot.
joe rogan
No, it's more than that.
andrew dice clay
No, the room is like 1,600.
joe rogan
16,000, you mean?
No, 1600. Which room are you talking about?
andrew dice clay
In the Mandalay Bay.
They got a big showroom.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no, no, no.
They're doing it in the event center.
Oh, I don't know.
It's where they have the fights.
andrew dice clay
Oh, you're doing it in there?
joe rogan
Yeah, they cut off half the room to do the weigh-ins.
It's actually not even half the room.
It's more like a third of the room.
So how many seats?
I think it's like close to 4,000.
unidentified
Yeah, but, you know, you get a tremendous following.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, no, it's a great place, but I'm saying that's what I usually do.
I only do like that every now and then.
andrew dice clay
What would you be happy, with 2,000 people showing up for you?
joe rogan
Yeah, we've done that before.
We've done that a couple of times.
Yeah, that would be great.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, you know.
joe rogan
We just want to make sure it's fun.
unidentified
Alan Chernoff is his name.
joe rogan
Alan Chernoff.
Oh, there's Alan.
andrew dice clay
There he is.
What's he doing today?
brian redban
He sits on the board as an advisor for, hold on, I'll tell you right now.
He sits on the board of the Deadline Club as a career advisor for Brown University.
andrew dice clay
Anything but in front of a camera.
joe rogan
Wow, that's a strange gig.
I hope he's happy.
unidentified
What's the name again?
Alan, A-L-L-A-N, Chernoff.
C-H-E-R-N-O-F-F. You see, Alan, you never got me down.
andrew dice clay
You never got me down, Alan.
I'm still standing, Alan.
joe rogan
Do you know Doug Stanhope is friends with the real Jake LaMotta?
andrew dice clay
I love Doug Stanhope.
joe rogan
Doug Stanhope lives in Bisbee, Arizona, so does Jake LaMotta, and Jake LaMotta comes over to his house and plays poker.
andrew dice clay
That's great.
joe rogan
There's photos of the two of them together.
andrew dice clay
But Stanhope himself is hysterical.
joe rogan
We did a show at the Wiltern together last Friday from the End of the Mind calendar show.
And it was Stanhope, Diaz, me, and a band.
It was really fun.
It was pretty crazy.
andrew dice clay
That's a good show, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was fun.
andrew dice clay
Who was the band?
joe rogan
Honey Honey.
They're friends of ours.
They've been on the podcast a few times.
Really talented band.
They're almost kind of country-ish.
Kind of rock-ish, country...
They play a lot of banjos and shit.
The girl has a tremendous voice.
Guy's a great songwriter, great musician, really cool people too.
So they opened up the show.
They did like four songs.
Then Diaz went out and laid in the flat.
andrew dice clay
Diaz is doing great.
joe rogan
Couldn't be doing better.
He's killing them everywhere.
andrew dice clay
He's doing a podcast too, right?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Church of what's happening now.
andrew dice clay
But he's also, I think he might even be there now where I play at the Riv.
At the Starlight Theater.
joe rogan
They're talking to him about doing something.
I don't know whether or not he's decided whether or not he's going to do it.
I think he was trying to make up his mind whether or not he was going to do that or not.
But I think it's a great idea for him because it's a quick flight.
It's a 40-minute flight.
He lives in Burbank.
andrew dice clay
You know what?
It's the best gig right now in the country for a comic.
joe rogan
You know, you make it sound very appealing.
The idea of living in Vegas.
andrew dice clay
No, but you don't have to live there.
You know, you could just go.
joe rogan
You just drive.
andrew dice clay
See, we drive it all the time.
We don't even fly.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
andrew dice clay
You know, we'll drive it.
And it's become such a regular drive for us.
It doesn't feel like a long time.
You know, we do it in four hours.
unidentified
What's the best tip?
Like, what's the best time to go?
Do you have any tips to drive back?
andrew dice clay
Oh, when you're driving there?
unidentified
About anywhere between 12 and 1. A.M.? No.
No, in the morning?
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, in the afternoon, you fuck.
You get it wrong twice.
andrew dice clay
We've come home at night a lot.
We'll get home at 5 in the morning.
unidentified
Getting stuck on that drive is the worst.
joe rogan
I've been stuck on that drive.
andrew dice clay
No, but I could go when everybody's at work.
joe rogan
So, going to the Hard Rock, is it in the new wing?
andrew dice clay
No, no, no.
It's right near where the joint is.
It's when you first come in, you go to your right, it's right in that area.
joe rogan
I know exactly where it is.
I saw that.
There was a band there when I was there.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, well, that room, the vinyl, is a rock and roll room where they put, like, new rock bands.
joe rogan
That's perfect for you.
How many seats is that?
andrew dice clay
Well, it'll seat about 400. And you do that once a month?
Yeah, I'll do it, like, two weekends out of the month, you know, two four-day weekends.
So we spend, like, a week and a half there, and then we come home.
joe rogan
I gotta start doing something like that.
andrew dice clay
I'm telling you.
unidentified
I'm trying to do one January 9th.
brian redban
I'm trying to find a room for AVN. I went to a comedy show there with Sam Tripoli, but I have no idea.
andrew dice clay
But there were so many...
You could use the Laugh Factory that Harry Basil just opened there.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
There's a Laugh Factory there?
andrew dice clay
Right in the Tropicana.
joe rogan
Really?
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is it Jamie Masada connected?
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
And it's the Laugh Factory.
You know Harry Basil, right?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, he doesn't.
andrew dice clay
You're not friends with Basil Tone?
joe rogan
He's not.
andrew dice clay
Do you know him?
joe rogan
I know who he is.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, he's a comic.
joe rogan
I really don't know him.
andrew dice clay
He actually opened for Rodney for like 20 years.
And so they just opened this club maybe...
How long ago, Val?
About six months?
It's only open like six months.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Getting in contact with Jamie, then.
andrew dice clay
I hear it's beautiful.
I hear it's a good-sized room.
Yeah, and it's doing well.
It's kicking ass.
And there's a lot of comedy clubs, but that would be one of the best.
joe rogan
Does Vegas have a comedy scene?
Do they have open mic nights or anything?
andrew dice clay
Well, a lot of them do, but you've got a lot of clubs there now.
You've got the Brad Garrett Room.
You've got the Laugh Factory.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
There's a comedy club right at the Riviera downstairs from the Starlight Theater.
It's the Riviera Comedy Club.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I did that.
I know downtown there's a lot of clubs.
I never go downtown.
joe rogan
Who books the Riviera these days?
It's not Steve Schripp anymore.
andrew dice clay
No, I think...
joe rogan
There's no way he would keep that after The Sopranos.
andrew dice clay
No, no.
It's just the Riviera books.
joe rogan
For folks who don't know, the big guy in The Sopranos, what was his character in The Sopranos name?
andrew dice clay
Bobby.
joe rogan
Bobby.
Bobby is Steve Sharipa.
We've known Steve like forever.
For years.
Before he was ever an actor, he was the guy who ran The Riviera.
andrew dice clay
You know what?
I would get crazy with him too because I think he's a talented guy and he's really likable.
And when he was doing The Sopranos, I'm like, where's the new show you're going to do?
Because even though he played a gangster, he's still this lovable guy.
And I'm going, you've got to have an ABC sitcom after this.
You're the father of three.
It's that simple.
And I'm still waiting for it.
Because I love that guy.
joe rogan
It's hard for a lot of those guys to transition from a show that's that memorable.
andrew dice clay
But not all of them.
See, a lot of them were real tough guys, just from real life.
Guys that have been in jail.
Some of them were real actors.
But Sharippa, even though he was with the Gangsters, he still has that likability, you know, that he could have transitioned very easily.
joe rogan
You should try to find out.
andrew dice clay
He might, you know, he might still.
They're airing The Sopranos again.
joe rogan
Are they really?
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
joe rogan
You should try to find out if you can do it at the Riviera.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Riviera Comedy Club, that's a good spot.
andrew dice clay
Well, how big a room do you want?
unidentified
I want like 100, like a smaller room, 150. The Riviera Comedy Club, that's easy.
andrew dice clay
I could probably help you with that.
joe rogan
What does the Riviera's hold?
Does it hold 150 maybe?
andrew dice clay
Well, the Comedy Club probably holds about 300. Does it?
joe rogan
Okay.
And then the place upstairs where you were at?
andrew dice clay
That holds like 575, something like that.
joe rogan
Was that the place where that Mark Marino used to have, or Frank Marino used to have his drag queen show?
andrew dice clay
I think so.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's like a famous...
andrew dice clay
There's a couple theaters.
It's the only theater I saw on the rib.
There's also a thousand seat theater just like that.
joe rogan
And by the way, you got to use up the word drag queen while you can before they decide to...
andrew dice clay
You can't call them that.
joe rogan
It's too insensitive.
You're not supposed to use twink anymore.
Do you know that?
Even gay guys get in trouble for using the word twink.
andrew dice clay
I never heard it until this second.
joe rogan
You never heard of twinks?
Twink, in the gay community, a twink is like a small, hairless, sort of boyish looking gay boy.
andrew dice clay
Do you know how funny that is?
Do you have any idea why did you have to say that to me?
joe rogan
And then Andy Cohen...
andrew dice clay
I'll be calling that to people in the audiences.
You know, what are you, a twink?
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
That's the new thing.
andrew dice clay
Oh, I love that.
And the big guys are bears.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Now they just want to be called tings, right?
joe rogan
But Andy Cohen, the guy who runs Bravo, got in trouble...
He was forced to apologize for calling someone twinks.
And he's gay.
He's a gay guy.
andrew dice clay
And I love his show.
unidentified
I love that guy.
joe rogan
A gay guy had to apologize for using the word twink.
I mean, that is god damn classic.
andrew dice clay
And I love that guy.
unidentified
Trannies either.
They don't want to be called trannies anymore.
andrew dice clay
I used to call them trans testicles.
Well, yeah, that was my joke.
I go, you meet the girl of your dreams, right?
Like I would start off, I go, you know, first you got these bisexuals.
You know, what does that mean?
You either suck dick or you don't suck dick, right?
What do you get up in the morning?
I got to remember this shit.
You know, flip a coin, heads I want, hair pie tails, balls across the nose.
And then I go, now you got these other things, these trans testicles.
You meet the girl of your dreams, you whiner, you diner, you put your hand up, you're holding a fucking tree trunk.
joe rogan
This is what the guy said, okay?
This is how crazy people are today.
Andy Cohen, who's the guy's...
I guess he's the head of Bravo, I guess?
He's always on those shows.
He's always acting as a mediator.
Yeah, we watched the show!
Well, this is what he wrote on Twitter.
No joke, I just walked right into One Direction Greenroom.
I guess One Direction is a band.
The blonde dude was shirtless, he says.
And then his tweet, hashtag holy twink.
So he said the blonde dude was a twink.
Obviously, he's saying he's like a hot little piece of ass.
And he had to apologize for that.
Misused word earlier, I just meant they're cute.
He tried to write that to cover up his tracks.
andrew dice clay
But that's what we've been talking, you know, because we were talking about it with comedy, but think about that.
joe rogan
That's so ridiculous.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, like everything you say, now you've got to, you know, have an apology ready.
joe rogan
Twink is a contentious...
andrew dice clay
Should you call a press conference, get behind a fucking podium, and go, I'm sorry, I called the little hot boy a twink?
joe rogan
Twink is a contentious word and is sometimes seen as a derogatory definition Referring to a certain type of homosexual.
Thus, Andy experienced crazy Twitter backlash concerning his comment.
What a group of cunts we have.
Just a bunch of silly cunts.
Just silly, dumb people.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, now how come people don't get mad at that word anymore?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I'm gonna use that word till the wheels fall off.
I will never give up cunts.
I will hold on to cunt.
You will pry my dead hands off the word cunt.
unidentified
You didn't have to apologize to.
Like, who was that?
Like a bingle?
joe rogan
Twinks.
You have to apologize to twinks.
You have to apologize to the fans, I guess, of the band.
That's what he had to apologize for, using that word.
But the people were upset that the word twink was a derogatory term.
But it's being used by a gay guy.
It's like me calling somebody a guinea.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, it's silly.
It's stupid.
unidentified
But check out those twinkles.
I mean, they're so adorable.
joe rogan
Even in the craziest culture, even in the harshest conditions, most of my family is Italian.
If I called someone a crazy guinea and you got mad at me, you can go fuck yourself, okay?
That's not racist, it's me.
I will tell you, I'm mostly guinea, you know, and that's a source of all sorts of problems with me biologically.
And to say that you can't say that, it's fucking stupid.
This guy's a gay guy and he's calling someone a twink.
If there's wrong with that, there's no hope for the world.
andrew dice clay
Well, that's what I'm saying.
People talk, you know, everybody, like, you know, We can't have that.
It's just fucking stupid already.
You know, you say a little thing, a cute little thing, you know, he was looking at the guy, the guy probably looked...
I mean, who dresses better than Andy?
joe rogan
Not only that, it's like...
andrew dice clay
I mean, he's dressed perfectly every...
Me and my wife watch the show, well, because we watch all those crazy, you know, housewives, you know, the Miami, you see them?
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They fight.
andrew dice clay
They're the only ones worth watching.
joe rogan
They fight.
Those Cuban bitches, they're tropical.
unidentified
It's like Telemundo that you can understand.
andrew dice clay
You know what I mean?
When we go to Florida, my wife will catch me just watching the Telemundo in all the dressing rooms.
Now you can at least understand what the fuck they're saying.
joe rogan
It's amazing that just following idiots around with a camera has become awesome entertainment.
andrew dice clay
Sometimes I can take it, sometimes I can't.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is me too.
andrew dice clay
Because all those shows, it's about the fight now.
It's always about the fighting.
joe rogan
You know what I watch, man?
andrew dice clay
I'd rather see these chicks banging.
joe rogan
All I watch these days is Alaska shows.
I've been on this crazy Alaska kick for the last couple of months.
It's like four or five different shows about people trying to survive in Alaska.
It's fascinating shit, man.
Watching people out there just trying to catch as many salmon as they can freeze because they have to realize that it's going to be winter for eight months.
That's all I've been watching.
So I watched that and then I watched like the Real Housewives shows and they look so stupid because their issues are so small.
Like in the Alaska shows, they're like, I gotta go shoot a bear today.
andrew dice clay
You can't compare, you know, real life shit to, you know, well you called me a big name and you know I'm not gonna stand for that.
And then the one with the boyfriend that just is fucking everything.
Behind her back.
But we love each other.
Shut up and fuck somebody else already.
Let's start a new storyline here.
Why do I get to see 13 episodes of you fighting with a guy that owns nightclubs about other chicks?
Didn't you know what you were getting involved in?
Didn't you use your fucking head for a split second already?
joe rogan
Yeah, you silly bitch.
andrew dice clay
You know, that's what goes on with these girls.
It's like, just stop.
It's not for you.
Bang somebody else already.
joe rogan
Well, it's just interesting that that would even be entertaining to people.
But it is.
andrew dice clay
It really is.
joe rogan
We would find so much pleasure.
andrew dice clay
It's almost like seeing two people get out of their cars and start an argument.
You're going to watch it.
joe rogan
But when I watch the difference between those shows and these Alaska shows, these subsistence-living shows that I watch, it's fascinating.
andrew dice clay
But how do you even put that with that?
joe rogan
But I do, because it's humans.
I'm just watching humans in Alaska live their life, just like I'm watching humans in Miami live their life.
They're looking to survive, too.
The problem is, what I think is that all their natural needs have been taken care of, as far as gathering food, having a place, a shelter, being protected from the elements.
They don't have to worry about that shit.
andrew dice clay
But that's interesting.
joe rogan
So, because they don't have to worry about that shit, then they concentrate on, this bitch said something to me, and I'm gonna cut her.
andrew dice clay
Because they're always fucking drunk!
joe rogan
That too.
andrew dice clay
Every fucking show.
I don't want to get angry over reality shows, but every one of them, you know, well, let's meet for breakfast, and they're opening up Dom.
joe rogan
Right.
andrew dice clay
You know, why are we drinking at breakfast?
joe rogan
Because you don't have to go collect caribou.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, and all of them...
That's right.
You're not cutting a hole in the fucking ice.
joe rogan
If you have to go out there and go shoot a bear, otherwise you have no meat in your freezer, that's a completely different situation.
andrew dice clay
That's interesting.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
andrew dice clay
You know, I can't feel bad, you know, for a girl that's living in an 18,000 square foot home, you know, drinking liquor for breakfast.
But I can feel bad for the little Alaskan guy that might fall through the ice.
joe rogan
I feel like if I had to choose between living with those cunts in Miami or living in Alaska, I would live in Alaska.
andrew dice clay
I'd have to go with the Miami thing.
joe rogan
I don't think I'd be able, if I had to live with them, if you had to live in a house with those people, or live in Alaska.
andrew dice clay
It's still a check.
joe rogan
They're so dumb.
There's so much dumbness.
There's so much where you would just, like, I'm going to have to hypnotize you people and start from scratch.
There's only one way we're going to have to raise your mind, and I'm going to have to program you.
andrew dice clay
I'm going to bring them ecstasy and Ibogaine.
I'll tell you a show you would like, because it reminds me of you, the way they explain everything happening.
What is it?
I shouldn't have been around there, but I was.
What's the name?
joe rogan
That should be the title of your next album.
I shouldn't be alive.
andrew dice clay
I always forget the exact...
I shouldn't be alive.
joe rogan
I shouldn't be alive.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, like, you know what I mean?
unidentified
I shouldn't have been around there, but I was.
Yeah.
You know, they decide, hey, what a beautiful day.
andrew dice clay
I'm going to climb the biggest mountain in the world thinking, you know, this is going to go off without a hitch.
joe rogan
Well, that guy who had a cut through his fucking arm, the guy who got stuck under that rock, they made a movie about him.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
andrew dice clay
James Franco movie.
joe rogan
Jesus fucking Christ.
andrew dice clay
No, but have you watched the show I'm talking about?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah, I've seen it many times.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, and they explain things like you.
I always go back to salt.
Salt?
You know, mineral?
joe rogan
Oh, there's a mineral?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, that lady that's still probably sitting there shaking.
joe rogan
That monster?
andrew dice clay
I never saw a guy get so mad over her.
joe rogan
No, that woman's a monster.
She was a monster all night.
She was a monster in the audience.
Oh, was she?
andrew dice clay
And she was like a middle-aged lady, right?
joe rogan
No, no.
She was like late 30s, overweight, angry.
andrew dice clay
And you weren't even looking at her, and she was like talking to somebody else?
About salt, and what'd she call it again?
joe rogan
Oh, no, she was telling everybody how terrible salt is for you.
andrew dice clay
And he's just sitting, minding his own business, and all of a sudden, the rage.
You know, it was like a show off the stage.
unidentified
And he goes, what the fuck are you talking about?
andrew dice clay
What do you know about anything?
Like, he knew her.
Like, she knows nothing about anything.
He goes, it's a fucking mineral.
joe rogan
You tell this story every time you do a podcast with her.
andrew dice clay
Because you didn't see your face.
That was the beauty of that to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, and I explained to you that that cunt had been a problem all night.
She'd been a nightmare all night.
andrew dice clay
But I always forget that part.
joe rogan
Yeah, that part's not as interesting.
You know, when she was telling people about salt, but you shouldn't have any salt in your diet, and I was like, it's a central mineral, stupid.
Like, what are you talking about?
andrew dice clay
That's how it started.
joe rogan
Yeah.
andrew dice clay
And then you got angry.
joe rogan
Well, she threw a cigarette at me.
andrew dice clay
Then it was Rogan mean.
Oh, but I wasn't there for that.
I wasn't there for that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was when it got out.
andrew dice clay
But you know my other thing?
I know I bring that up all the time.
But I like the way you break things down, is what I'm saying.
That's why I was really...
Like, on the show, like, I shouldn't have been around there, but I was.
Like, they break it down, like, everything that's happening to the person, and I know you really understand those things.
joe rogan
That show's a bad show.
andrew dice clay
I'll tell you a thing I like to do on different shows with the same guy, like if it's the same host of a radio show or something.
I love to congratulate them on their wife's pregnancy, knowing there is none.
You know, and after the second time, the guy would be like...
Dice, you said this last time, my wife isn't pregnant.
unidentified
And I go, no, would she have the baby?
andrew dice clay
And he's going, she was never pregnant.
We don't even want kids.
And they get angry about it.
And I'll just stay on it every time I come on.
But that's purposely.
joe rogan
Well, you would have these little things.
andrew dice clay
I love to affect people.
joe rogan
These little gags that you would run at the store.
We'd have people acting out certain things and you were videotaping it with cameras.
So you'd get off stage and there was a play going on in the fucking hallway.
What is happening back there?
andrew dice clay
You've got to see those tapes, I'm telling you.
joe rogan
What do you do with all those tapes?
unidentified
Nothing.
This is what I think the podcast would be?
andrew dice clay
I just love filming it.
unidentified
This is what I think your podcast would be.
andrew dice clay
And Tom Green always calls me up.
He goes, let's film something.
And I'm like, for what?
All I do is film.
Because he likes doing that shit too, but he'll actually air it somewhere.
joe rogan
He'll put it somewhere.
unidentified
How awesome would this be?
brian redban
If you had, you just had a humongous box of tapes behind you, all random.
unidentified
And each podcast at the beginning, you just grabbed one, put it in, you kind of give like a commentary while it's going on.
Like, oh, this is from, you know, the comedy store.
Obviously, let's see what's going on here.
andrew dice clay
Well, what I was doing there, no, that's actually funny, but...
There was sense to those tapes.
You know, even though it seemed like when he...
Because Joe would ask me, he goes, what are you doing with the camera?
And I'm like, I'm filming the show.
But there was no show.
But yet I was making it a show.
And I really just loved it.
So when I'd come to the comedy store, you know, I'd start kicking weight.
And the show was going on in the original room.
I used the store as my set.
You know, and like the newer comics at the time, like...
Like Steve Renizzisi, you know, Ari, Bobby Lee.
These were like the new generation of comics.
So I would film all these guys and they couldn't wait for me to get there because they never knew what they had to do.
And I would tell them exactly what I need them to say, you know, and I would say, all right, you wait four seconds and you say it.
Like they didn't even have a choice as how to say it as an actor.
joe rogan
But why didn't you do something with it all?
andrew dice clay
Well, what am I going to do?
joe rogan
But you spent so much time, we were looking forward to it.
andrew dice clay
You have no idea how...
joe rogan
Like, ours is always like, well, one day Dice is going to release it.
We're like, oh, okay.
andrew dice clay
Well, my son Mac says, you know, we got to...
These are the lost tapes, we got to call them, and start putting things on, like, YouTube.
Have them edited into little...
Because there were always scenarios going on.
joe rogan
How many hours of footage do you have?
andrew dice clay
Oh, thousands.
unidentified
LAUGHTER Thousands.
joe rogan
That's just madness.
andrew dice clay
I have this...
Because I did film a lot of stuff career-wise.
There's this young filmmaker, his name's John Myers, and he's putting together, he's logging all my footage now to make a documentary movie.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
andrew dice clay
But I filmed all the way back.
First it was all...
You know, the big shows, being on the road, all of it.
I'd get my home life.
That's how I started with practicing just filming myself without a crew.
joe rogan
And the special comes out this Monday night.
New Year's Eve is Monday night, right?
andrew dice clay
New Year's Eve.
joe rogan
This Monday night, New Year's Eve.
andrew dice clay
On show time.
joe rogan
What time is it?
andrew dice clay
10 p.m.
joe rogan
10 p.m., and so it's over at 11?
It's a one-hour show?
andrew dice clay
Yeah.
joe rogan
So set your DVRs.
If you're not going to be home, if you're out partying, set your DVRs and check it out.
That show that I saw in Vegas was fucking awesome.
unidentified
One of the best comedy shows I've seen in a long time.
Last ten years.
andrew dice clay
Thank you, Red Band.
joe rogan
We fucking howled.
It was really fun.
andrew dice clay
It was just a fun night with you guys hanging out.
joe rogan
We had a great time.
It was old school Dice and it was Anthony Cumia and Jim Norton and Sam.
We had a great crew.
Bobby Kelly was there too.
andrew dice clay
You made me love that guy now.
joe rogan
Bobby Kelly?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, because I didn't know him up to that point.
joe rogan
He's the best.
andrew dice clay
And just a nice guy, you know what I mean?
And of course, I had to fuck with him at the beginning when he wanted to, yeah, can I get a picture?
For what?
You know, we don't know each other, you know?
Like, why would you want a picture of us, like in a book?
And then I took like 20 of them with him.
joe rogan
He loves you.
That show was fucking phenomenal.
And that's going to be basically the same set?
andrew dice clay
It's more intense than what you saw.
joe rogan
But I mean the same material?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, a lot of the same material.
joe rogan
So it's fucking great, great, great stuff.
And like I said, it's old school dice.
It's really like going back to some of your earlier work.
andrew dice clay
Well, it's keeping the voice, like they would say.
And just, you know, pounding on people.
joe rogan
Aggressive and offensive.
andrew dice clay
Well, yeah, I got pretty aggressive with some guy in the front row that Wanted to talk when I'm filming, and I had to threaten him, but I left it in.
Because I know people watching are going to look and go, he's threatening to choke this guy.
joe rogan
It was great stuff.
It's great material, and if it's even better than that, then the show that I saw in Vegas is going to be fucking certain.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, because I still had months after you were there, so other bits came up.
joe rogan
I appreciate that, man.
I really appreciate guys who are disciplined and who really work at stuff and work at putting together a real set.
And I know you do.
And I love the fact that you're really into doing comedy again.
I love the fact that when I talk to you about it, you're all excited about it.
You can see it when you're performing.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, I get pumped up when I'm coming to you.
joe rogan
It's very fun.
Oh, we get pumped up to have you.
Follow Dice on Twitter.
It's TheRealDiceClay.
One word.
TheRealDiceClay on Twitter.
Everyone else is a phony.
How many phony guys you got on Twitter?
andrew dice clay
A lot of them.
The new site again, what's it called?
unidentified
Andrew Dice Clay Official.
andrew dice clay
Yeah, Andrew Dice Clay Official is my page.
joe rogan
Is there another AndrewDiceClay.com?
andrew dice clay
Yeah, there's phonies out there.
That's why it's Andrew Dice Clay Official.
joe rogan
But AndrewDiceClay.com, do you own that?
You have to?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, okay.
But official.
So if they want to go to your website...
There you go.
Bam!
Andrew Dice Clay official, and it's the real Andrew...
No, the real Dice Clay.
The real Dice Clay on Twitter.
andrew dice clay
Is the Twitter.
joe rogan
And if you can't find it, just go to my Twitter.
I just retweeted it, or I just tweeted it out there.
andrew dice clay
Babe, what's L.A. Rock's Twitter?
Do you know?
LA Rocks the band.
joe rogan
So go follow those two, you fucks.
Thank you very much, brother.
andrew dice clay
Thank you.
joe rogan
Good luck on New Year's Eve.
It's going to be awesome.
andrew dice clay
Let's all have a happy New Year and kick ass in 2013. And I'm so excited to see you out there.
And I'm bringing you into it.
joe rogan
Laying them down again.
andrew dice clay
That's it.
joe rogan
All right.
Thank you very much, everybody.
Thanks for tuning in.
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Thanks to Desquad.
Go to Desquad.tv to find future comedy dates.
It's linked to pretty much all of us.
And then a t-shirt.
And then a Friday show at the Ice House.
unidentified
Yeah, it's 10 o'clock.
Tickets are on sale at icehousecomedy.com.
joe rogan
Are you allowed to say Doug Benson's name yet?
unidentified
No.
All right.
brian redban
So he, Nick Rutherford, Kevin Christie, Tony Hinchcliffe, and we got a couple surprises.
joe rogan
A couple surprises that may or may not be Doug Benson.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
andrew dice clay
What do you headline that every Friday?
joe rogan
No, no.
This Friday I'm in Vegas.
I'm doing the UFC in Vegas.
andrew dice clay
But you're always bringing that up.
Do you normally do that?
joe rogan
Yeah, we do the Ice House all the time.
andrew dice clay
So you gotta let me know.
You know, when I'm in town, I'll just come do a set.
unidentified
Come Friday if you want.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
We do a podcast Friday.
joe rogan
I won't be there, though.
andrew dice clay
No, but you go on stage, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I won't be there this week.
andrew dice clay
No, not this week, but I'm saying I always hear you bring it up.
joe rogan
Yeah, we do it a lot of times on weekdays.
unidentified
A lot of Wednesday nights and stuff like that.
Cool.
joe rogan
But I'll have some other weekends coming up, I think, at the Ice House as well, because I've got a few weeks off in January.
andrew dice clay
I should do a weekend there.
I never played it.
unidentified
Yeah, if you ever want to, let me know.
joe rogan
It's a beautiful, beautiful...
It's like the Comedy Store without all the cuntiness.
Everyone's nice there, the owner's sweet, and everybody's really happy to have you there, and the crowds are phenomenal.
Pasadena is not like city people.
They're a little bit more relaxed.
It's a loose fucking crowd.
They're fun.
One of my favorite places ever.
Yeah, you'd love the shit out of that place.
All right, all right, you fuckers.
We'll see you next week with guests to be named at a future date, but we got a lot of fun people.
We're going to have a good time.
Thank you, everybody, for tuning into the podcast.
Thanks for all the positive feedback about my comedy special.
I appreciate the fuck out of you paying five bucks for it.
It's a beautiful thing to get so much support and so much love, and we send it right back at you.
All right, so go fuck yourself, and we'll see you next week.
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