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Sept. 26, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #270 - Kevin Pereira
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joe rogan
01:41:51
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kevin pereira
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brian redban
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joe rogan
It is live.
It was live already.
I was watching it.
brian redban
Yeah, the recording thing was flashing.
It wasn't recording.
joe rogan
Son of a bitch recording.
kevin pereira
Standing by for speed.
joe rogan
You stream thing.
You fuck.
You substitution for the expensive...
What is it that my buddy Justin used?
Yeah, TriCaster.
That's supposed to be the shit.
kevin pereira
Yeah, they're awesome.
joe rogan
The Joe Rogan Experience is brought to you by many things in which we love...
One of them is Audible.com.
Audible.com is something that I have used for many, many a moon, and Audible occasionally sponsors this podcast.
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Like, books on tape.
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Didn't he read his book on tape?
brian redban
Yeah, and it's one of the best ones.
I use Audible a lot, and that's one of my favorite books on tapes ever.
joe rogan
Yeah, and there's so many of them, so many great books there.
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It's a really brilliant, brilliant book and it is available on tape as well.
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You know, if you're on a plane, you're essentially wasting time.
Unless I'm riding on a plane or...
Or unless I'm getting actual work done, it's a fucking huge waste of time.
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The commute, same thing.
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And if you go to Audible.com Joe...
I don't know what happens when you go there.
It's probably better.
brian redban
Check this out.
Here's a sample from...
joe rogan
Oh, you can try Audible free for 30 days.
That's what happens.
You get a free audio book and you get to try Audible free.
That is not really Audible.com.
Oh, that's Steve Martin.
kevin pereira
Is that Steve Martin playing his banjo?
brian redban
Yeah, it's Steve Martin playing his banjo.
kevin pereira
He's just picking, bro.
Let him pick.
brian redban
Listen, he'll...
joe rogan
He's a bad motherfucker, Steve Martin.
One of the underrated comedians...
unidentified
I did stand-up comedy for 18 years.
Ten of those years were spent learning, four years were spent refining, and four were spent in wild success.
My most persistent memory of Steve.
joe rogan
Stop it right here.
I'm going to get a boner and I'm going to want to hear the whole thing.
brian redban
I know.
joe rogan
Yeah, I need to get that.
You know what?
I'm going to get that.
That just got me excited just hearing him.
I fucking love people even talking about comedy.
unidentified
Have you not read that book?
joe rogan
Brian gave it to me.
kevin pereira
Oh, it's great.
joe rogan
Many years ago.
But hearing him talk about it is better.
It's better than the book.
brian redban
He talks about the Ice House.
He started up here in the Ice House.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Ice House is fucking the bomb diggity.
Anyway.
Go to Audible.com forward slash Joe and what you get is you can try Audible free for 30 days and you get a free audiobook.
So check that shit out, bitches.
And if you want to get a sexy t-shirt like the one I'm sporting here, you got to go to Desquad.tv, son.
Desquad.tv is where...
brian redban
That's the original shirt.
joe rogan
This is original.
This is the OG kitty cat that is tattooed on numerous people.
All throughout the land.
And Kevin Pereira, our friend, is holding up.
That is the new one.
That is my favorite cat.
That creepy cat.
That cat creeps the fuck out of me.
kevin pereira
It's like playing spot the copyright violation.
I just love adding him up in this shirt.
joe rogan
I'm not down with that.
kevin pereira
Who's going to sue today?
joe rogan
But the cat is free.
kevin pereira
It's a remix, Joe.
It's a remix.
joe rogan
But the cat's not a remix.
That cat's dope as fuck.
unidentified
No, no, no.
kevin pereira
Of course.
joe rogan
Anyway, thank you everybody who came out to Toronto.
I saw the Dust Squad t-shirts.
I saw the Hire Primate t-shirts too, my t-shirt company I never even mentioned.
I'm the worst promoter ever for my own company.
Hire-primate.com is my t-shirt company.
If you go there, it's all t-shirts with monkeys and mushrooms.
It's monkeys and psychedelic drugs.
And I've got more coming.
I've got some new ideas.
I'm retarded, okay?
There's something wrong with me.
Obviously.
I'm a grown man with children of my own.
I have a t-shirt company that's about monkeys and drugs.
We're out of a lot of sizes right now, but we've got new shit coming in.
They sell so quick that I don't talk about them.
This is how lazy I am.
I don't talk about them because I don't want to have to replenish my supply and call people.
It's a pain in the ass.
Yeah, but this is my company.
Desquad.tv is Brian's company, so when you buy these things, these are directly supporting us.
I also have a piece of Onnit.com.
Onnit.com is the company that we've been working with for years now and selling nutritional supplements.
And I tell everybody.
And that's another thing that I've had come up to me on the road that is just humbling and amazing and inspiring.
How many people have come up to me and said they've lost a shitload of weight since they started listening to this podcast?
They think about things differently, that they're eating kale shakes every day.
I'm a big proponent of nutrition.
There's a huge difference between the way I feel when I'm eating healthy and when I feel when I'm not.
Your body needs a bunch of shit to run good.
And science has isolated the ones that affect your mind in a very positive way.
And these are called nootropics.
And what they essentially do is they help your brain produce more human neurotransmitters.
It makes your brain fire quicker.
It makes your brain...
You know the days when you just feel fucking shitty where you can't come up with names and you're scrambling?
Your brain's like firing bad.
It's just like...
They're not coming out.
Even like a normal word.
Alpha brain prevents all that shit.
For me.
It doesn't work for everybody.
If you're fucking smoking cigarettes and not taking care of yourself, I don't know how much it's going to affect you.
kevin pereira
But it's like smacking the turbo button on an old 486 tower.
joe rogan
For me, it has a big effect.
I fucking love this stuff.
I take it every day.
I also take Shroom Tech Sport.
It's a Cordyceps mushroom supplement that we sell.
Cordyceps mushroom has been showed to aid your body's ability to process oxygen and it gives people more endurance.
It was sort of discovered by high-altitude herders.
They found that their cows were eating these mushrooms, and they had more activity, so people started eating them.
And it's some crazy cryptic process where you have to grow this mold on the back of a fucking caterpillar.
It's really, yeah, it's fucking crazy.
Google it, or go to Onnit.com.
All the questions, all the important, all the answers, rather, to the important questions that I'm sure you have if you're smart.
All these questions cannot be answered by a moron like myself.
When I tell you all these things about human neurotransmitters, I don't really know what I'm saying.
I'm just sort of repeating things.
kevin pereira
You've read a PDF that knows exactly what it was saying.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know what that says.
kevin pereira
I can regurgitate paragraph three and it sounds science-y.
joe rogan
I can sound smart as fuck, son.
But if you told me to spot, you know, like, okay, and the neurotransmitters do what exactly?
I'd be like, well, they make you fucking awesome.
unidentified
I don't know.
kevin pereira
I'm going to put that on a t-shirt with some monkeys and sell it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't have any answers to those questions.
We also sell kettlebells and battle ropes.
We have hemp protein powder that we sell that is the very finest hemp protein powder on earth.
It has raw cocoa in it and maca in it.
kevin pereira
I need some of that.
joe rogan
It's fucking strong.
I'll have it sent to you.
Let me know.
Look, the way we have it at Onnit is that we're trying to sell you the very best shit possible.
Everything we sell is the highest quality.
And it's not all cheap, but it's the best you can get.
And for the nutritional supplements, for the first 30 pills, you get a 100% money-back guarantee.
If you try Alpha Brain, you don't feel like it's doing anything for you.
Your money's refunded.
You don't even have to return the product.
No one's trying to rip you off.
We are just only trying to sell you the things that I use, the things that if you can afford them, they are the very best ones available.
The kettlebells, the Troy kettlebells, they are the very best kettlebells available.
Battle ropes, the very best available.
Most of it is the cheapest we can sell.
The battle ropes are the cheapest you can find on the internet.
The kettlebells are right up there, literally as low as we can price them without losing money selling them.
So this is all like super high-end stuff, and if you use a code name ROGAN, you will save 10% off any and all supplements.
That sounds like a real commercial.
unidentified
It's so boring.
kevin pereira
I want, like, you need an 80s style.
Remember how they used to sell action figures in the 80s with kids busting through like foam brick walls and shit like that?
You need something like that for battle ropes.
Hmm.
Battle ropes!
I'm going to take you down with my battle rope, Jimmy!
And then there's a smoke machine that fires up.
joe rogan
We need like an old commercial, like one of those Atlas commercials, where he's on the beach and someone kicks sand in his face.
And he's like, you motherfucker!
And he picks up the ropes and you see his muscles just growing up.
kevin pereira
Take that and never do well.
joe rogan
When you think about the movements of battle ropes, it's totally like chimpanzee movements when they're beating the shit out of something.
kevin pereira
Or when they were clubbing a bride to drive back to the cave.
It's definitely primal.
joe rogan
It's good for Hammerfist, too.
Boom.
Kevin Pereira is here.
You dirty bitches.
Buckle the fuck up, kids.
Strap yourself in.
unidentified
We're ready to launch!
kevin pereira
I finished.
I'm in the refractory period.
joe rogan
I need ice.
Train by day.
unidentified
Joe Rogan podcast by night.
All day.
All night.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
All day, all night, all day, son.
Controversy all over the world, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm clapping for you.
I'm clapping for myself.
kevin pereira
I'm clapping for this fucking day.
joe rogan
Pereira is here, bitches.
Respect.
Dude, it's so nice to see you again, my friend.
kevin pereira
It's so good to see you as well, sir.
joe rogan
You have abandoned your spot on television like a real G and stepped out into the real world, man.
That takes balls.
kevin pereira
I pulled the cord and slammed through the glass canopy.
joe rogan
For folks who don't know, Kevin was the host of Attack of the Show on G4 for, Jesus, how many years?
kevin pereira
God, I was with the network for ten years, and I hosted Attack for six.
joe rogan
When did I first do your show?
What year was it?
kevin pereira
We were probably two or three years into it.
joe rogan
So, 2007 or something like that?
kevin pereira
Give or take, sure.
joe rogan
Seven or eight?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we've been friends ever since, and Kevin's on the podcast several times.
kevin pereira
We went to Things Remembered after the first show, and we got one of those little heartbreak necklaces.
Mine has B-E on it and F-R-I, and you have the other letters, and we put it together.
We summon a very sexual Captain Planet.
joe rogan
I'm going to make Brian jealous right now.
kevin pereira
Brian has the arrow that goes through the heart.
brian redban
Right to the knee.
joe rogan
Which one is the male and which one is the female?
Is the male the arrow that goes through the heart?
The circle?
kevin pereira
The male has two circles at the bottom to represent testicles.
joe rogan
Really?
kevin pereira
It should.
joe rogan
Write your own Google.
unidentified
Update the wiki.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure I got the answers to this bitch.
It totally should, right?
It should look like a dick.
Why does it have to be the symbol for mail?
kevin pereira
Who designed those things?
It was probably someone who really couldn't draw that well, so we said, here's a stick with a loop, and we'll call that the mail.
joe rogan
I bet it was a dude who designed Prince's thing when he stopped being a person.
kevin pereira
I need a symbol.
joe rogan
I think that was a legal thing, though.
I think that was one of those record companies fucking you over things.
kevin pereira
Well, I'll tell you what, if you just have a symbol, your music is fucking hard to torrent.
joe rogan
Yeah, super hard.
kevin pereira
If you're just like, Alt-J uses a triangle, and thankfully you can type in Alt-J, but if you just have to type the triangle, that requires extended ASCII knowledge.
My dad's not going to pirate that album.
Way too hard.
joe rogan
Yeah, how would you draw that print symbol?
You would have to get a font made up, and then someone would have to agree to assign a key to that font, and the OS would have to be changed.
unidentified
Right?
kevin pereira
IOS 6.5.
That will have the emoji and Prince icon set.
joe rogan
I don't think it's necessary.
I think he's Prince again.
kevin pereira
What are you doing over there?
joe rogan
What are you doing over there?
I think it's the old screensaver shit.
kevin pereira
That's funny.
I went on Leo Laporte's show.
That was wild.
joe rogan
Leo Laporte was awesome, man.
I used to love that show.
My wife would get so mad at me for watching that stupid show.
kevin pereira
Which one did you watch?
Screensavers or Call for Help?
joe rogan
Screensavers.
She was like, this is so boring.
kevin pereira
Well, that was the thing.
I loved it.
I was a super fan of tech TV and Leos and everything they did, but it's wild the notion that on television, where they're trying to reach a very broad audience, there was an hour, sometimes five-hour marathon-long show of like, you got a problem with your printer driver?
Okay, what Model HP do you have?
Alright, let's check some DLL files.
I'm like, what?
Talk about narrowcasting.
They're spending 30 minutes helping one person with their fucking printer driver.
And I loved it.
joe rogan
It was awesome.
kevin pereira
I learned so much.
brian redban
It taught me a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah, it did me as well.
I think we underestimate people's attention spans for these type of things.
I really do.
I think people are very curious about those kind of things.
And some folks aren't.
Look, there was a UFC this weekend.
Where these guys fought for the flyweight title, and it was a fucking amazing fight between Joseph Benavidez and this guy, Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson, who wanted to win a decision.
And the crowd was booing.
They were booing.
These guys were fucking throwing down.
kevin pereira
They want to see the big power shots.
Exactly.
joe rogan
They want to see someone get knocked unconscious.
It was so gross.
It was such a plethora of dummies.
It was so hard.
So it's like you're never gonna get away from that.
You're always gonna have a certain percentage.
kevin pereira
You can train people to have certain viewing habits and expectations and that's what like the Google YouTube channels that came out.
Some people are doing 30, 40 minute long shows on YouTube that are actually doing pretty well and that kind of behavior a year ago was unheard of.
The notion that someone would stare at this To stream video for an hour or half hour to watch a web show was unheard of.
So people can be trained to have different expectations of running times and length.
So you can manipulate attention spans, essentially.
It can be done.
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, I don't think it's really manipulating attention spans.
I think we're underestimating people's interests in things.
When we started doing the podcast, everybody told Brian and I that we had to shorten it.
kevin pereira
I couldn't agree more.
joe rogan
You have these long-ass conversations, man.
You've got to shorten it.
I still agree.
I was like, there's no way.
I go, I don't get it.
It's a conversation.
If you don't like it, you shut it off.
If you don't have any more time left, you shut it off.
There's no obligation to continue with this conversation, but I want...
I like conversations that I have with my friends when we're up for a couple hours smoking pot or something like that and we have these really intense moments where I'm being aided by his intellect and he's introducing thoughts to my mind.
There's a real regeneration and refreshing of the mind when you have these kind of conversations.
Even if you're just talking stone shit about simulation theory and whether or not mushrooms really are a portal to another dimension.
Just stupid.
kevin pereira
The shit that comes out at hour two and a half, around that mark, is when you get there, which is why you'll never see those kind of conversations on a late night talk show where you have three and a half minutes, plug your movie, get to the clip, get out, and go.
joe rogan
People don't realize the fun in just shooting the shit with cool people.
And that's when someone said that they were too long.
I'm like, you're crazy.
Just because everybody else is doing an hour doesn't mean it has to be an hour.
That's nuts.
Giving them too much is way better than not giving them enough.
The idea is to just put out the best shit you can put out.
And if you could keep going after two hours, why wouldn't you keep going?
This is what you're trying to do, right?
You're trying to tune people into this real conversation.
kevin pereira
It's kind of one of the reasons that I actually ended up having to leave ATT&CK. I mean, there were a myriad reasons, but one of those things was I was getting a chance to meet so many fascinating people who I was passionate about and wanted to talk with, and I was given four minutes live with them.
Dude, you need a podcast.
And it's my first time saying hello.
joe rogan
You need a podcast yesterday.
In the works, sure.
kevin pereira
Fuck the works.
In the works.
joe rogan
Dude, you need to do one tonight, right after this podcast.
I'll be your first guest on your podcast.
kevin pereira
This isn't me tugging off strangers.
This is me spinning plates, alright?
joe rogan
I know.
kevin pereira
I got a couple in the air right.
joe rogan
I'm sure you do.
But what I'm saying is your gift is that you're an intelligent, curious guy.
I mean, one of your gifts, obviously.
You're a brilliant guy.
kevin pereira
Talk about my eyes, asshole.
joe rogan
I love your face, too.
kevin pereira
You're handsome.
joe rogan
You have great bone structure.
kevin pereira
Apple Maps cannot navigate you out of here if you get lost.
joe rogan
There's no better...
I'm lost already.
I was lost before I got here.
There's no better expression or portal for expression for you than a podcast where you can control...
Especially something like this where you can add video.
We can essentially do whatever we want.
It's so close to a real television show.
Except there's no ads ever.
There's ads in the beginning and then the whole fucking thing runs for three hours...
Yet, people will still complain.
brian redban
You pretty much do that already, though.
You did stick cam last night for an hour.
kevin pereira
I do it randomly.
I'll hop on, and if I'm gonna drum, I'll live cast some of my drumming, but then it always ends up with me sweaty and having an emotional outpour, and then I start ranting to strangers.
Oh, I did.
I will press the ham up against the webcam.
Looks like it's a Portuguese hedgehog just mashed against the lens.
joe rogan
There's girls right now going through your recorded YouTube, Ustream videos trying to find it.
kevin pereira
Primarily 18 to 34 year old males going through that Ustream trying to find it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're more of like a gay crush.
kevin pereira
Yeah, am I a twink or a bear?
How does that work?
joe rogan
I think you're just a handsome young guy.
It looks like you could be easily overpowered.
That's what it is.
kevin pereira
There's something sexual.
I wouldn't even fight.
I would scrap if it turned you on.
brian redban
That's about it.
kevin pereira
I might paw at your face if I thought it would make you harder.
joe rogan
Just that alone, that sentence is really disturbing.
I might fight if it makes you...
kevin pereira
Oh, Brian and I were having that conversation before we went live of girls that request and demand that you strike them during the act.
unidentified
Oh, that's craziness.
kevin pereira
And I've been with one, and it was insane, and I couldn't do it for more than five or ten sessions.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It started to hurt my wrists.
I've never had a girl ask me to hit her, but I have had girls ask me to rape them.
unidentified
Ugh.
brian redban
That's even worse.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin pereira
That's kind.
joe rogan
Yeah, like, I've had girls that wanted to fight me off.
kevin pereira
Is that how that works?
Because, oh, they want you to...
joe rogan
Yeah, like, she explained it to me that she wanted me to rape her and she wanted to fight me off.
And I was like, fuck.
kevin pereira
I feel like that sentence is followed with, your honor.
joe rogan
Well, first, you can't.
kevin pereira
She was asking for it.
We were in an alley.
She said, let me break my nails against the concrete.
joe rogan
We never wound up doing it.
I should just clarify.
I just thought it was the craziest thing I'd ever heard in my life.
I was like, look, I'm into living with reality.
I don't know what you're trying to...
We'd only been dating in a little while.
We didn't need any fantasies yet.
Jesus fucking Christ.
kevin pereira
Our regular sex life is going stale.
I need a rape fantasy.
joe rogan
Who you really are, who I really am, and we're both horny.
kevin pereira
Throw me into a van and hit me with a two-by-four.
joe rogan
No, so she wanted to fight me off.
It was this weird thing.
She's like, but you know that it's not, so it's okay.
I go, it's not, because I'm still going to do it.
I don't want to do that.
I don't want to associate physical aggression with sexuality.
kevin pereira
It's tough because this isn't my story to really tell, and I have a very close-knit group of friends, but someone in that group...
joe rogan
His name rhymes with...
Mob!
No, what's his name?
Come on, give up the dude's name.
kevin pereira
Here's the thing.
No, no, no.
It's a brilliant story.
He started dating...
joe rogan
Give him a fake name.
kevin pereira
I'm going to cliff notes this here.
My buddy Dale...
joe rogan
Oh, Dale.
kevin pereira
Started to date a woman, Sharice, and Sharice told Dale it was always a fantasy of hers to be raped, but it's sort of one of those things where you can't ask to be raped because then you know, and it would ruin the fantasy.
So after they'd been dating for no less than a year, and they were both into kinky sex and weird sex circles and kind of went around in those...
brian redban
Oh, Kevin Rose.
kevin pereira
I'm not going to say yes, but I'm going to tap my nose and wink and point your way.
So my buddy Kevin was like, I mean, Dale.
unidentified
That shit!
Son of a bitch!
kevin pereira
Fuck!
Oh my god.
unidentified
Lucky kettlebells!
kevin pereira
So, less than a year they've been dating, he arranges.
She's flying in from town.
He arranges for three giant dudes to pick her up at the airport, take her away, throw her in a van, pretty much run a train on her outside a gas station.
She's crying, thinks the real thing has happened.
Then he shows up and he says, happy birthday.
And she cried and thanked him and couldn't believe it.
They're still together to this day.
unidentified
Wow.
kevin pereira
Yep.
That's the first time I met Kevin Rose.
I was invited to run a train on his girlfriend.
joe rogan
Whoa.
brian redban
I had no idea Sarah Lane and him.
We're still dating.
joe rogan
Stop with the fucking names.
kevin pereira
Absolutely not him whatsoever.
joe rogan
That is the namesake behind this podcast.
kevin pereira
That is a joke for 12 people.
joe rogan
This is all just a joke.
But that's a crazy story, man.
kevin pereira
Insane, right?
joe rogan
That's a fucked up story.
And she liked it?
kevin pereira
And so that's when I go, like, immediately I go, you know what?
I want to be clear as well.
That's not for me.
Not necessarily for me, alright?
I have a rape fantasy, and I would love for three dudes to run a train on me, sure, but I'm not going to admit that, right?
So not for me.
But on the other hand, on the flip side of that coin, that's fucking love.
Like at some point, you go, what were the odds of those two ships passing in the night, one having a rape fantasy, the other be willing to fulfill it in that capacity and go for it?
joe rogan
And then say happy birthday?
brian redban
And then say happy birthday!
joe rogan
That might be the craziest story.
kevin pereira
The frosting on the cake is on your face.
joe rogan
That might be the craziest story I've ever heard about a man and a woman together.
kevin pereira
It's pretty fantastic.
brian redban
I'm just trying to think who it is.
I had to see Adam Sessler doing that.
kevin pereira
This is nobody that's in any sort of limelight.
They don't have Wikipedia.
joe rogan
It's really fucked up that there's these...
Variables.
Because it would be nice if rape was always bad.
It would be nice if girls did not ever have a rape fantasy, so there couldn't be any weirdness.
kevin pereira
I can't remember which comedian it is.
It might have been Louis C.K. that had a bit about when a girl says no, and she's like, why didn't you go for it?
Because you said no.
Yeah, but it meant no playfully.
It's like, I'm not going to have sex with you on the off chance that you're into that.
You know what I mean?
There's no...
No should really mean no, and yes can mean yes.
joe rogan
But the problem is, that's not what she wants.
She really wants you to take it, which is crazy, because for a woman who doesn't want that, it's a horrific idea.
kevin pereira
I always apologize after, and Hallmark needs to make cards for that.
Like, sorry you didn't want to be forcibly sexed.
joe rogan
Yeah, this girl that I dated that wanted me to rape her, she got over it.
She only asked for it once, but it was really weird.
kevin pereira
Was that rooted in something else?
joe rogan
I don't know.
kevin pereira
Was she a victim of a sex crime earlier?
joe rogan
No, I don't think so.
She liked super aggression.
She liked aggression.
kevin pereira
Battle rope movements on her face and back.
joe rogan
She wanted some fucking drum beating.
She was just a wild bitch.
I don't know.
I don't know what...
kevin pereira
Do you still have her contacted?
joe rogan
No.
This was many moons ago.
kevin pereira
Can I find her on Facebook?
joe rogan
I don't think you can.
kevin pereira
Do you mind if I battle rubber?
joe rogan
I think you should not.
She might ruin you.
kevin pereira
I was so tiny, I would snap in half at the thought.
joe rogan
Plus, she's got to be like 40 now, so it's over.
kevin pereira
I don't mind that.
I don't mind a little.
I don't mind when the tread on the tires is worn off.
I'll hop in there.
I'll fuck a rim.
joe rogan
Well, it depends.
You say it's over, but I saw Cindy Crawford, who was like almost 50, or she might be 50, and she is still hot as fuck.
kevin pereira
What about Gwen Stefani?
Isn't she like 40-something now?
joe rogan
I don't know.
kevin pereira
I just saw her at the airport on the cover of some magazine, and I'm like, I would absolutely toss it in her.
Not that I would ever have a chance, but...
joe rogan
You can't say that, though, based on a magazine cover, because that might as well be like a werewolf.
kevin pereira
Well, I get that there's Photoshop and camera trickery and whatnot.
Oh, fuck yeah, there is.
I get that that goes on.
joe rogan
Have you seen those photos of Madonna recently?
unidentified
Oh, my God.
kevin pereira
God of Skeletor.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then you see her in other promotional pictures and she looks hot still.
It's like, what's going on?
unidentified
Who's lying to me?
Someone's lying.
kevin pereira
My boner's confused.
joe rogan
I'm fucking really creeped out by this.
Like that there must be a Phantom of the Opera type thing going on.
kevin pereira
But would you bang Madonna?
Knowing what she really looks like?
Not even for the sport?
joe rogan
I'm not into that.
kevin pereira
Not for the story of it?
joe rogan
Not into that.
kevin pereira
Not even to tag her ear and monitor her later?
joe rogan
When I was 17, I was in love with her.
kevin pereira
Really?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I had a big thing for her after that.
kevin pereira
You loved her music.
joe rogan
Well, I loved that movie, Vision Quest.
She sang a song in Vision Quest, and she had a couple songs on the soundtrack, and the soundtrack was what I would use to train with.
I would always train to the Vision Quest soundtrack.
I had a Walkman, cassette Walkman dude, old school.
And when I would do my sprints, I would listen to that.
So I had this weird crush on her because of that song.
kevin pereira
Would you have to awkwardly fast-forward the cassette to get to the crescendo of the song before a sprint?
joe rogan
No.
I wasn't so clever.
kevin pereira
I want to believe you had a talk point.
joe rogan
It was too difficult back then.
Because back then it was like...
unidentified
Stop.
joe rogan
It was like, it's not so easy.
You really didn't cue things up.
I would cue up the beginning of the song right before a sprint, maybe.
brian redban
Okay.
kevin pereira
So you did go through a little bit of that.
joe rogan
But it sucked, because the fucking cassette thing was too big, so it would slap against your dick while you're running.
kevin pereira
Yeah, hard plastic slapping against you.
And that's how fetishes are born.
joe rogan
I was into Madonna back then, which is really funny, because I was 17, and then I found out she was 26. I was like, damn, that bitch is old.
That's all I can think.
It's like, I'm 45 now.
I'm fucking practically dead.
That's ridiculous.
Meanwhile, I feel great.
But I've just never been into the Madonna type.
I've never been into super aggressive business.
kevin pereira
I just like that you took a flex break.
You're like, I'm going to put the podcast on hold, and I'm just going to hit it.
All right, I'd fuck me.
Anybody else?
joe rogan
I'd fuck me right now.
I'd let me rape me.
kevin pereira
Joe, take me out behind an ANPF. Come on.
I won't bear Macy, I promise.
joe rogan
In flexing, I broke loose an eyelash and it fell on my eyeball.
brian redban
Oh, I hate that shit.
kevin pereira
I will go ahead and put a key between my fingers, but I'm not going to jab you with it.
Just come and take me.
joe rogan
What a shitty design our eyes are that occasionally the rafters fall off into it, and then you can't see.
What if a fucking bear was trying to get you, and the eyelash fell in your eye, like, Motherfucker!
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
kevin pereira
We're going to devolve very soon.
We're going to become so reliant on plastic chips in our bodies and technology to regulate us that the body's just going to stop.
They're like, we don't really need eyes anymore.
We'll figure that out with thermal cameras.
joe rogan
I disagree.
It's going to be so good.
I think it's going to be an assimilation.
kevin pereira
Of course.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're still going to have some sort of a breeding type thing going on.
Look, eventually we are going to be those gray aliens.
There's no way around it.
kevin pereira
We'll be Salt State Drive.
joe rogan
We were at the Santa Barbara Zoo the other day and got to check some gorillas out.
brian redban
Oh, you actually went?
joe rogan
Oh, it's fucking beautiful.
Santa Barbara's amazing, man.
kevin pereira
They have a zoo there?
joe rogan
I've been going there with my family.
I love Santa Barbara.
It's a gorgeous community.
It's amazing.
Nice little restaurants, beautiful neighborhoods, beautiful view.
The weather's amazing.
And they got this cool zoo.
But all zoos bum me out.
If I didn't have children, I would never go to the zoo.
Because I hate the idea of...
I don't mind the idea of hunting.
I think the hunting is the way people are supposed to live.
kevin pereira
Well, it depends on how you're hunting as well.
If you're paying for 5,000 birds to be released so you can shoot them at close range with a shotgun.
Yeah, you're not really hunting, asshole.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a weird thing they do with old rich dudes.
They just give them a shirt.
unidentified
Shoot!
Shoot, Sam!
joe rogan
Bang!
unidentified
Bang!
kevin pereira
Or bring you out in a Range Rover and put you within three meters of an elephant and hand you a rifle.
Just point it anywhere in his general direction and pull the trigger and we'll get a photo of you with a foot on it.
That's not hunting.
joe rogan
Not necessarily what I mean.
kevin pereira
I get what you're saying.
joe rogan
What bums me out is animal prisons.
Animal prisons bum me out way more than hunting.
Because at least if you're hunting an animal, even if you're not going to eat that animal, if you're going to just give that animal away, which is kind of weird.
Like this guy, Matt Hughes, who's a UFC champion, just got in trouble with a lot of people.
People are angry at him because he went to South Africa and shot everything.
kevin pereira
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Did one of those things.
kevin pereira
Including women and children.
joe rogan
Like a zebra and a bunch of different animals.
But even that, to me, it's like...
That still seems to be better than the fucking zoo.
I think the zoo is one of the, like...
If you want to talk about cruelty to animals, the zoo is one of the most fucked up places on earth because those animals are denied all of their natural activities.
All of them.
We think that just because they have food, they're okay.
That is madness.
kevin pereira
Or, hey, well, you know what?
Their forest was getting cut down, so at least we saved them.
And I'm like, is that really saving them?
Putting a natural animal that has instincts that are predatory and then dangling meat from a pole for it or having it pace in a 4x4 cell?
And they don't even fucking give them Wi-Fi.
joe rogan
They don't even have Wi-Fi.
They don't have anything to kill.
That's something that they do do in other countries.
In other countries, especially in Asia, when they have tiger preserves, they preserve these tigers, but they feed them live goats.
Have you ever seen that?
Brian, throw a few of those up, because there's hundreds of them online.
kevin pereira
I've seen preserves where they feed them like they fed the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park, which is a goat on a chain.
Better than just handing it the meat that's already killed, but at some point, you should let the goat go.
You should let them actually hunt.
And, you know, go through those animalistic behaviors.
joe rogan
Yeah, that would be better if you had, like, an ecosystem in a place.
But even that, you shouldn't contain it.
It shouldn't be that this tiger has no idea what happens if he walks 20 miles to the ocean.
It shouldn't be that.
The tiger should be able to go wherever the fuck the tiger is, if that's his habitat.
Unless we choose to make them extinct.
If we chews, they're too fucking dangerous, they're eating too many people, and we've got to start jacking them.
Which, by the way, if I lived in India, I'd be hunting tigers every fucking day of the week.
More people have died from tigers in India than anywhere in the world.
Just the Sundarbans alone is at somewhere like 300,000 people have been murdered by tigers over the last hundred years.
kevin pereira
And that's because they're building in their habitat, or because they're trying to keep them as pets?
joe rogan
Because poor people are living near monsters.
Not only that, the Sundarbans is a brackish ocean.
And apparently the tigers drink this water and the water is extra salty so it makes them really aggressive.
It makes them irritated all the time.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
And they're really mean.
Yeah, I had a bit about it in my act.
A true story about these poor fucking fishermen.
They were in a boat.
There was like five guys in a boat.
And this tiger swam out to the boat.
Jumped in.
Killed the guy.
Dragged him through the water to the shore.
Dropped his body off at the shore.
Jumped back in the water.
kevin pereira
To go get the other guys?
joe rogan
And did it again.
Did it three times.
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
He did it three times.
So the last two guys were just fucking...
kevin pereira
Being that third guy in the boat.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin pereira
Fucking start paddling.
You gotta figure something out.
You know what's happening.
joe rogan
Who knew tigers were that fucking evil?
Like, they really are monsters.
Because they're not doing it for food.
They're doing it because they can.
Like, at that point in time, how could you justify...
kevin pereira
They want to swipe off the ears and make a necklace.
They're doing it for the sport.
joe rogan
Yeah, how could you justify keeping that thing around?
What is this, a bull?
kevin pereira
Is this a goat feeding from a...
joe rogan
That's a cow, I guess, it looks like.
kevin pereira
Oh, there it is, yeah.
There we go!
joe rogan
That cow seems like you rushed him a little bit to his talking shit.
kevin pereira
I'll spear this motherfucker.
joe rogan
I like how they go jiu-jitsu style.
They go right to the bottom.
kevin pereira
Could you call this like a match?
joe rogan
Okay, he's got side control.
He's got the neck.
As long as he's got the neck, he's good.
He's got the top of the spine.
Now, this is really hard for the cow to get anything done here.
At least the cow's standing, though.
The cow's got to figure out some way to go to his back and kick that thing off and then get back to his feet and run away.
But it doesn't look good.
The tiger's got the back of the neck.
I think he's fucked.
kevin pereira
Don't forget to check out a new season of The Ultimate Fighter.
Friday night, 7.30.
joe rogan
There's the dead cow.
I don't get it.
Oh, there's a live cow.
Oh, they have them all hog-tied and shit.
Yeah, look how they bring them out.
That poor cow.
Before they let him get killed by a lion, he lives in shit.
He gets fucking ball-gagged and strung up by his hooves.
That's exactly what they did to him.
That's fucking crazy.
kevin pereira
Yeah, so Santa Barbara Zoo was exciting for you, it was good, or it was sad?
joe rogan
It's cool because the kids get to see the fucking animal jail, but it's sad when you see these.
kevin pereira
Do you explain to them, like, hey, this is not natural for these animals?
joe rogan
No.
kevin pereira
Or no, you just let it be?
joe rogan
They're four and two.
Oh, okay.
I'm not being upset, I'm just saying.
kevin pereira
No, you are being very passive.
joe rogan
Dude!
I'm just saying, when I explain to them, I just want them to repeat the names and know where it lives and what it does.
kevin pereira
So then it serves that purpose, though.
joe rogan
I would rather show them DVDs.
I really would.
But kids like looking at shit.
I could never get my daughter to sit down and watch a documentary on the Congo or something like that.
But if you take them somewhere and show them some actual real shit, you know, that has a different impact on them.
But my point was, while I was standing there looking at the gorillas, I was looking at the gorilla and looking at me and then thinking about gray aliens.
I'm like, yeah, that's next.
It has to be.
That really is us.
Like, I think those fucking eyes, it's because they have, like, built-in sunglasses because we've completely fucked the environment.
You can't see anymore.
You go outside.
kevin pereira
It's got triple UV protective layers and reflective coatings.
joe rogan
Why else would they have those big fucking totally black eyes?
That shit's his sunglasses.
Built-in sunglasses.
kevin pereira
Those are Oakley's in 4022. Our eyes got way bigger after Google Goggles.
joe rogan
It's like an unexpected turn.
Well, Google Goggles, not only does it give you cancer of the brain, but that cancer specifically makes your eyes grow, and that changed evolution.
So that's what happened.
The human eye became large, almond-sized or shaped.
So when that happened, and then eventually we went with pure telekinesis.
People stopped talking.
The mouth shrunk up.
kevin pereira
We won't need physical vessels once we can figure out how to digitize the consciousness.
joe rogan
Especially if the physical vessel is going to be universal, indiscernible, like it looks like the gray aliens are.
The gray aliens, it's not like you see a Shaquille O'Neal gray alien right next to Bridget the Midget.
You're being racist.
kevin pereira
You're saying they all look the same, and I see completely different personalities.
I can pick out Doug from Xanadu, alright?
joe rogan
Okay.
Have you ever had any sort of an experience with anything that you thought was paranormal, whether it was a ghost or...
Yeah.
kevin pereira
I mean, on Salvia, I've experienced the universe, you know, as a pixel of a human being.
I've absolutely seen it and felt it and understood it.
But sober, I haven't felt like phantoms or cold chills or...
joe rogan
That word sober is a very interesting word because I agree with the idea to a certain extent that...
When you're intoxicated, that that is an impaired state and that what you're saying is probably not real.
It's just a distortion of all your sensory perceptions and your body reacting to poison.
kevin pereira
You can trick your body into synesthesia.
joe rogan
However, there's times when I'm high where I completely disagree that it's not...
It's not an impaired state.
It's an enhanced state.
It's very difficult to manage enhanced state and there's a lot going on.
But it's not impaired.
kevin pereira
It's modified.
joe rogan
It's modified.
It makes reality a little slippery.
You can get socially awkward.
You can get paranoid.
There's a lot of things that can happen that what it is is you have a massive amount of extra sensitivity and it's almost the exact opposite of being drunk.
And what people don't understand is like, oh, he's in parodies on the pot.
When I'm on the pot, I play pool twice as good, maybe three times as good.
I can play professional level for long stretches of time when I'm high as fuck.
I write better comedy.
There's a lot going on that you can't say.
There's no downside to that.
It's not a detrimental situation.
Carl Sagan has said something.
It's my quote on my message board.
When he said it, I was like, thank you!
It says, I am convinced there are genuine and valid levels of perception available with cannabis and probably with other drugs, which are Through the defects of our society and our educational system unavailable to us without such drugs.
And there's real clarity in some of these experiences.
It's just so much recreational use and so much fucking around with all of us that It's been, especially with people who don't do any of these things, they don't smoke pot, they've never done mushrooms, that it seems like a recreational, silly type activity.
It doesn't seem like there's any validity.
kevin pereira
Well, yeah, and they're still banking off of the stories and the connotations that have been handed down since the reefer madness days, from Grandpa told someone's parents that that reefer will make you silly, it'll make you crazy, it'll make you a druggie, you'll be a know-nothing, and then that just gets handed down and handed down.
joe rogan
It would be really cute.
It would be a cute, fun thing to watch bumble into walls if it wasn't for all the violence.
If it wasn't for, like, the shit that's going down today in Spain.
Have you seen this shit, Brian?
Have you seen the video?
Please pull up the video of the Spain protesting, because it is crazy.
Our mainstream news...
Fuck you, CNN! Fuck you, Fox News!
You guys suck!
You are fucking frauds!
They are not the news!
kevin pereira
Cogs in a machine owned by corporations to facilitate an agenda.
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
The fact that no one's covering what's going on in Bahrain.
No one is covering...
I mean, the amount of coverage in America on this Spain thing is shameful, and their depiction of it is shamefully inaccurate.
That it's just a small protest.
No, this is a fucking whole civilization rising up against their leaders.
kevin pereira
I mean, people are looting for food in trash bins.
That's how dire the situation has got for a large section of that population.
And now they're taking to the streets.
And nobody knows about it.
joe rogan
And the actual reported figures of unemployment are at 25%.
But those are disputed by the population.
They say it could be even worse than that.
The reported numbers of unemployment...
kevin pereira
And by the way, a lot of times those figures, they only count those who are actively seeking employment and are unable to find it.
Which means if 25% is statistically unemployed, there might be another 25% that has fucking given up.
joe rogan
You're exactly right.
kevin pereira
And they're resorting to trash cans and now looting.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're exactly right.
That's the people that are still in the system that are being counted as unemployed.
And people use that as an example of our society, because our society, we try to keep unemployment down.
You don't know shit.
You don't know shit.
kevin pereira
Absolutely not.
joe rogan
You know about people that are in your system.
That's it.
There's a huge amount of people out there that have fucking thrown in the towel.
And that's what's going on in Spain.
Look at the videos.
It's fucking unbelievable.
kevin pereira
Notice the badge in the corner.
Not CNN, not MSNBC, not Fox, nothing.
We've done such a terrible job.
joe rogan
What does RT stand for again?
kevin pereira
It's not Reuters.
God, I watch all their stuff all the time.
joe rogan
In the face with a fucking little baton while they're taking pictures of him.
This is crazy.
But what's really crazy is these fucking cops, man.
They are just employees of the machine.
They're not even the machine.
They're regular folks.
The regular folks are attacking regular folks.
kevin pereira
But these people are fighting for their jobs right now, just as the people rioting are trying to fight for jobs.
And that's what's so sad.
This is how disconnected it is.
joe rogan
They have to lay down their arms.
It has to get worse.
It has to get worse to the point where the...
The cops realize, okay, we are this civilization.
We are this population.
kevin pereira
Those people that they are clubbing?
joe rogan
Oh, look at that guy.
Flying sidekick.
And a roundhouse kick to the body.
Very weak roundhouse kick.
No turn of the hips at all.
Look, people are kicking him and pushing him down.
That's fucking crazy, man.
That cop's down.
Nobody took his back.
Someone should have taken his back.
kevin pereira
Soon they'll bring out the sonic weaponry and the drones and the UAVs.
That's why this kind of dissent doesn't happen in the States right now.
Because we have a military that's a police force that will roll out with armored vehicles and assault rifles.
joe rogan
We have new laws protecting the cunts just in case this shit goes down.
Where they legally can do a bunch of shit that they were never allowed to do just in case...
kevin pereira
They can detain you.
They can pull you off the streets and detain you before anything ever happens because you might be a thought leader.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know, it's really disturbing to me, all these celebrities and all these different people who are standing up for Obama and campaigning for Obama.
And even guys that I respect and intelligent people are saying, he's better than Mitt Romney.
What are you looking at?
I'm like, what are you looking at?
Are you paying attention to what this guy's doing to the Constitution?
kevin pereira
They're cherry-picking a few moral issues, which is always what it boils down to, which is sad.
I happen to agree with the moral stance of Obama versus Romney a little bit more, but it doesn't fucking matter at the end of the day.
joe rogan
What aspect of his morals?
kevin pereira
Things like civil unions.
Gay rights.
Yeah, like gay rights.
That's a big one.
joe rogan
Well, you know what that is.
That's a democratic talking point.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
You know, he is...
kevin pereira
Because they won't talk about money in politics, which is the root of 90% of all the fucking issues we have right now.
Nobody's going to talk about it because it's lining their pockets.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When it comes to something that's actually important, he is not standing up for us.
kevin pereira
Nope.
The feds are going to raid the dispensaries here in L.A. despite saying that's not going to happen.
joe rogan
Well, they just did.
They just closed in on 71 of them yesterday.
kevin pereira
Well, they sent notices to a bunch and they're suing, too.
They haven't started shattering glass yet, but believe me, that's two weeks away.
joe rogan
Yeah, the whole thing is really sick.
And this is supposed to be this awesome president's regime?
I mean, he's running things right now.
He's running things right now.
kevin pereira
Well, he's running a campaign right now.
joe rogan
Let's be clear about that.
Well, they're not fucking doing it right.
They should be non-profit.
Shut up.
You're telling me that the DEA has nothing better to do, for real, than go after pot companies?
That is one of the weakest ways to get a caller.
kevin pereira
By the way, 700 dispensaries can't be opened and operated unless there's fucking demand for 700 dispensaries.
joe rogan
Do you know what I mean?
There's a law that says you're allowed to have it here and to pretend that it's worse than anything else you've already got legal and it's a reason why you're going after it is crazy, Obama.
kevin pereira
That's why I'm always against the medicinal marijuana argument because it ignores the recreational argument which is just as fucking valid as the medicinal one.
joe rogan
It certainly is, but the medicinal one, I think, while in a world of madness, there's a lot of people, not me, necessarily, I could get by without it.
The reasons that I use it for is not...
Nothing's terminal.
There's people with terminal illnesses.
There's people who...
Have cancer and marijuana is the only thing that gives them an appetite.
There's nothing else that works as good.
kevin pereira
People that will have seizures if they do not smoke pot and yet someone is pulling the joint out of their hand and saying, no, no, no, you need to have a seizure because this needs to be illegal.
joe rogan
Well that's why whenever anybody talks about the human body and they're doing it from an ideological standpoint without any real medical training or even reading research, you're talking out of your ass.
Like when you got an asshole like Rush Limbaugh that's talking about some girl wanting to be a slut so she can get a birth control.
What that asshole doesn't understand is that some women get ovarian cysts if they don't take birth control.
They have medical issues.
There's a lot of them that women can use birth control with and it cleans them up.
Sorry, Joe.
kevin pereira
He's just popped a handful of Oxycontin and chased it with alcohol so he can't hear you right now.
Because let's not forget he was chastising people who wanted to smoke pot while taking handfuls of pharmaceuticals.
b-real
Well, not only that, he was doing it illegally.
joe rogan
He was having his maid go out and buy his oxys for him.
They said, we researched it on Wikipedia, and it said that he was up to 30 a day, according to his mate.
kevin pereira
Cited by Johnny Balls 17. He's the one who put that sentence in there.
And he is the most trusted source on the Wikipedia.
joe rogan
Cut to the Johnny Balls 17 Twitter account.
kevin pereira
Johnny Ball 17. It was just opened.
joe rogan
There's a scramble for it right now.
kevin pereira
I hope there is.
Yeah, it's insane.
And when I think about unemployment, and I think about, and I, this may transition into a TSA rant, and I apologize if it does, because it's still fresh in my head.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, we gotta talk about that anyway.
kevin pereira
The biggest fucking government works program that's really going on right now are tax dollars going to create a system to create jobs to demean us and make us feel like criminals for wanting to take a flight.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin pereira
A program that is inefficient, ineffectual by thousands of, not thousands, that's hyperbole, by hundreds of sorted papers that is inefficient, ineffectual, that demeans us, that leads to lobbyists and government kickbacks for these corporations that make machines that scan us and take nude photos of us essentially.
joe rogan
Well, for the folks that do it, for the folks that do the TSA, it is a shit job.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're dealing with people that don't want to be there.
kevin pereira
Absolutely.
joe rogan
You're dealing with people that don't want to comply.
Yeah.
And in their defense, look, there's that fucking classic Stanford study that we brought up over and over again of what happened when they just had college students have one person in charge.
unidentified
You're the warden.
joe rogan
The other person is, yeah.
kevin pereira
You're the prisoner.
joe rogan
When you do that, people abuse people.
People are supposed to be equal, folks.
That's just the way it is.
There's not supposed to be cops.
kevin pereira
Furthermore, isn't there a law against uniforms for people that aren't law enforcement officials having markings or patterns?
joe rogan
Then how do you work at Burger King?
kevin pereira
No, no, no.
Well, because you're not wearing a badge, and you're not wearing patches.
joe rogan
You are if you're the manager.
kevin pereira
Do you have a sheriff, a tin sheriff badge?
unidentified
I believe that Colonel Sanders gives out stripes.
kevin pereira
Doesn't Colonel Sanders?
I'm the sheriff of this grill.
joe rogan
Well, you should.
kevin pereira
But they're not, by the way, they're not cops.
They are regular folks that are wearing tin badges and patches.
And I've met a lot of them.
But there's always cops there.
joe rogan
There's always a stand of cops waiting.
kevin pereira
There's airport police, and they are police officers.
joe rogan
They're real.
kevin pereira
And they come in when the shit actually gets real to mace you and frisk you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I've never had a problem at the TSA, ever, with people being rude to me.
I've never had that problem.
kevin pereira
Do you go through the machines?
joe rogan
I go through the machines, and I'm friendly.
kevin pereira
I opt out.
I'm friendly.
I'm friendly as shit, but I opt out.
joe rogan
Well, Brendan Walsh said that he had a problem with the same thing.
He opted out on the way to Toronto.
What I've heard is that there's radiation in those machines, they haven't really registered it yet, but if you really want to worry about radiation, you shouldn't be flying in the first place, because the flight itself is incredibly radioactive.
kevin pereira
The radiation, to me, is a moot point.
Like, yeah, I don't think I deserve it.
You think it's a rights violation?
It's a rights violation, plus the RapidScan Corporation, which is one of the two big corporations that had the $70 million contracts to install these machines.
They were funding Chertoff, who was the ex-head of the Homeland Security Administration.
They've increased their lobbying by 50% or something since 2008 and 2010. That was the last study I read.
So, Lord knows how much money they're spending now to give kickbacks to people in power to do these no-bid contracts to put in these machines, which, by the way, Most security and defense experts tell you that they can't actually detect the plastic explosives that could blow up a 747. Like, they can't actually detect it.
Plus, there was a case in Florida, just not only, like, probably two years ago, where hundreds of thousands of the photos from people going through those machines, because it does store photos even though it doesn't display them, those photos were hacked.
And they said, we don't store these photos, they don't get taken, but they have a nude picture of you somewhere.
Lord knows how that's going to come back to haunt you.
So the radiation is, to me, a moot point.
joe rogan
I look good naked, dude.
brian redban
I want to see it.
joe rogan
Release the hounds.
kevin pereira
There's going to be TSA fetish porn.
There's absolutely going to be fetish porn.
joe rogan
TSA people, release the hounds.
kevin pereira
It's just absurd to me that my tax dollars go towards buying these machines for these corrupt corporations to have them installed to make me feel like a criminal to snap a photo of me naked which don't make me any safer as I go onto a flight.
joe rogan
Do you think it doesn't make you any safer?
Don't you think that if people could take guns on planes they would?
If there was no metal detection you would have to deal with the same sort of instances of people being crazy in society on a plane as you would on the ground.
I think metal detectors are good.
I do.
I think the idea of checking your bags is good.
There's too many cunts.
kevin pereira
There are certainly, there should be a standard of protection.
You know, a metal detector, if you want to scan the baggage, that's fine.
But I think we've drawn the line way too far.
And we've drawn it to a point now where, first of all, we've always been one step behind.
Let's not forget 9-11 happened with box cutters.
There was no explosives, there were no bombs, there were no guns.
joe rogan
Well, Kevin, that's the official story.
unidentified
But here at Infowars.com, We know it was a government inside job.
kevin pereira
Bin Laden determined to attack.
unidentified
We've got the documents, ladies and gentlemen.
There is no way you can take over a plane with a box cutter!
Look at this article by Johnny Ball 17. He has done the math.
kevin pereira
It checks out.
joe rogan
If you go to infowars.com and buy gold, you'll be safe.
kevin pereira
And a crank flashlight.
And a crank fleshlight.
unidentified
We need a crank fleshlight slash radio.
kevin pereira
Fuck your way to freedom.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you want to believe the official story, the most fantastical story.
kevin pereira
By the way, those fleshlights need a rechargeable battery on them so they can heat up.
I should be able to press a button and have it get warm.
joe rogan
We don't use them anymore, so I don't give a fuck.
kevin pereira
They could fall apart.
You don't talk about them anymore?
joe rogan
They're not our sponsor anymore.
kevin pereira
Oh, that sucks.
Do you still fuck them, though?
joe rogan
No comment.
unidentified
There's not one right behind.
joe rogan
They were a good sponsor, but I think it got to a point where we probably saturated their market.
And quite honestly, we made more.
He has a flashlight behind his computer.
kevin pereira
Yeah, we're always one step behind.
So here's what concerns me.
Is that now we're at a point where let's say they take away the rapid scan machines, right?
Or let's say they have them, but someone, flying spaghetti monster forbid, decides to blow up a school, or a footlocker in a mall, or a stadium, or a concert venue.
Those machines are going to be everywhere.
joe rogan
What do you think would happen if you went to the airport and you had like a radiation detector and you said, I would like to go through this machine and detect the amount of...
unidentified
They wouldn't let you.
joe rogan
They wouldn't let you.
kevin pereira
There's no way they would let you.
joe rogan
They'd probably arrest you, right?
kevin pereira
Yeah.
What is that machinery you're not allowed to have here?
That's some creepy police state shit right there.
In my incident in Austin, I was told I was not allowed to film it.
I was brought into a private screening room that had a giant placard above that says, this is a private screening room which I did not request.
I was taken in there.
My belongings were taken in there.
Without my request I even objected to it and they said, you have to go this way.
joe rogan
Did you have to?
Is that the law?
kevin pereira
Yeah, at this point I didn't have time to fight it.
I had to catch a flight.
joe rogan
See, the thing is with the Patriot Act and shit like that, you don't know what the fuck is terrorism on paper these days.
kevin pereira
They make it up as they go along, and then they have lawyers figure out how however they treated you is the legal way to treat you.
joe rogan
Sons of bitches.
Where you going, bitch?
kevin pereira
They had the x-ray machine.
joe rogan
I gotta have you pull something up.
kevin pereira
They have the x-ray machine in the Austin airport, and it's right next to one of those rapid-scan body scanning machines, right?
unidentified
Oh, God.
kevin pereira
And there is a long line for the rapid-scan machine.
unidentified
Of course.
kevin pereira
And that's when they say, oh, that line's getting long.
Come on through the x-rays.
So right away I'm like, you know what, if this is integral to my safety, you're now chucking my safety out the window for the convenience factor of cycling people through security.
joe rogan
Well, are they really saying that it's not safe?
I mean, is that really what they're saying?
The rapid scan thing or the x-ray thing is not safe?
kevin pereira
I'm talking about if we need those body scanning machines because they can detect a whole bunch of stuff that a traditional x-ray can't.
That when it gets inconvenient because the line is too long, you're now throwing my safety out the window.
That seems inconsistent.
joe rogan
Seems wrong, right?
kevin pereira
Crazy.
But I'm in line to go through the x-ray, and then randomly, they do the, oh, you need to go through the rapid scan machine.
So I say, can't I just go through the x-ray?
No, you can't.
Now they're angry with me because they even asked that.
So I opt out, as I normally do.
My belongings go through the machine.
Now I can't see them.
I say, hey, I can't see my laptop.
I can't see my phone.
I can't see any of that stuff.
It's over there.
Your belongings are fine.
How do I know that I can't see them?
They didn't give anybody to do it.
So I'm already on edge, right?
I always feel like whenever I take a fucking JetBlue flight, this is going to be my Occupy moment.
It's going to end with pepper spray to the face, and I'm going to get handcuffed, even though I'm as polite as can be, and I just want someone to watch my shit.
I get stuck in a glass box.
Where I'm next to a girl that couldn't have been more than six years old.
She has a handicap.
She's in a wheelchair and there was something mentally wrong with her.
She was stemming.
She was rocking.
She was pulling her hair and crying because there were three TSA agents trying to tell her to lift her arms so they can swab her clothes, swab her wheelchair, the back pad, the tires, the wheels, everything.
Her dad is there.
On the brink.
You can imagine how traumatic it is to try to bring somebody, a special needs child, through an airport in general.
But now they've been selected for special screening and he has to try to explain to his daughter who's having a fit, rightfully so, as strangers are groping her and, you know, swiping, swabbing her seat.
He's trying to calm her down.
Well, you know, by holding an iPad in her face and doing whatever he can to get her to relax.
Do I have to lift her out of the seat?
He asks.
Yes, you do.
He's trying to lift her up.
She's fighting it.
My heart is breaking for this guy.
The reason I'm sitting in this glass box is because after my pat down, they ran my little piece of cloth, or they ran the gloves and the piece of cloth that they swiped the bottom of my feet with through a machine.
By the way, machines which we spent more than $30 million on to install in airports.
And this machine said, I tested positive for nitrates.
joe rogan
I had that happen once.
kevin pereira
Yeah, and I pulled up, uh, so what's a nitrate?
Well, sir, it's a, you know, that could be used, it's a chemical.
Okay, what does that mean?
Well, it's a chemical.
It'll be used in a lot of things.
It doesn't, it's not a bad thing.
It's not a bad thing.
Like, this isn't a problem.
And I go, no, it is a problem because I have a flight to catch and I want to know, like, why I'm being detained longer.
Well, you tested positive for nitrate, so we have to give you an even more thorough screening.
Okay.
What else can test positive for nitrates?
Guy couldn't answer it.
Second person couldn't answer it.
Third person said...
joe rogan
Did they ask you if you had been to a farm?
kevin pereira
No, they did not.
But the third guy finally said, well, the head of the security mob there said, well, if you've walked on grass that has fertilizer on it, then you might test positive for nitrates.
Even certain heart medications that seniors take can test positive for nitrates.
So I'm now stuck in a glass box, detached from my valuables, watching this poor girl...
Having a meltdown as these three people are, you know, going all over and I start to cry because it just, it breaks my heart that this is happening.
This poor guy is having to go through this and I, you know, I go to put my hand on his shoulder and tell him like, I'm sorry you have to go through this and he looks back and he's choked up.
I mean, he's been in there for a good 15 minutes trying to calm down his daughter.
So then I start questioning, why are you guys doing this?
And I'm being polite, I'm being calm, being everything you could possibly be while asking how much longer this is going to take because I have a flight to catch.
They grab my belongings and start walking them away.
And I go, excuse me, what are you doing?
You're coming here to this private screening room.
No, no, no, I don't want to be in a private screening room.
I want this enhanced pat-down to happen right here because I want my girlfriend to videotape it.
Well, no, no, no, sir.
You're going...
By this time, my belongings are in the frosted glass private screening room.
Now I'm in the private screening room with them, and there's a giant placard that says, this is a private security room.
There is no filming whatsoever.
If a TSA employee tells you to stop filming, you must see its filming immediately.
You do have the right to call in a witness to be there.
And I'm thinking, why can't the camera be my witness?
Because if I'm traveling alone, who else am I going to call?
Fucking Ghostbusters?
Am I going to bring TSA in here?
So I'm in a glass box with two dudes by myself.
He swabs me down with the gloves and then he says, I'll be right back.
I have to test this glove.
Goes, puts his hand on the handle of the door with the glove on it that he just wiped me down, opens it up and walks out on his merry way.
So I look to the other guy who's left in the room.
I'm like, what the fuck was that?
And it was like the first time I had cursed.
And he goes, what do you mean?
I'm like, he just swabbed my body down with that glove, then grabbed the handle.
If someone in here earlier did have explosives on them, and he grabbed that handle with that glove, that's now on my test.
Why isn't he testing right here?
There's a machine in the room.
Oh, sir, that machine's calibration is off.
That's why it's here.
Have it in the room because the calibration's off?
Yeah, there's a tag on it that says it needs to be serviced.
Okay, so I'm waiting.
Five minutes go by.
I strike up conversation with the guy.
Hey, That little girl out there in the wheelchair that's having the fit, and I can still hear her having a poor meltdown out there.
Why are they out there?
Well, he tested positive for nitrates as well.
Oh, he did?
Yeah.
Why's the girl there?
Oh, she tested positive for nitrates.
Oh, so all three of us have tested positive for nitrates with the one machine that's out there.
You've got another one in here that needs servicing and recalibration, and you think there's nothing wrong with this situation.
Guy comes back, tells me I'm clear, I leave the room, and I see the father is still there, struggling with his daughter.
And I'm like, I'm again, like, moved to tears.
And I ask this guy, Tell me, as a human being, do you think this is right?
Do you think this treatment for this poor girl is right?
And he goes, sir, she tested positive for nitrates.
And I went, right, I get that.
But there are many other countries who deal with terrorism on a far greater level than we do, who have a far more swifter and more common sense approach to security that doesn't demean their citizenry, that doesn't cost them millions of taxpayer dollars.
Do you think that that's right?
That that girl's having a meltdown and you're swabbing her wheelchair?
Do you really think she's a terrorist?
I'm just asking you as a human being.
And there was a long pause and he sort of looked down and looked at his shoes and I thought, good, I'm finally going to have a moment, a real moment here as a human being.
He's going to take off that TSA helmet for a second.
And he looked up and looked me right in the eyes and said, she tested positive for nitrates.
And that's when I realized this is a lost cause.
This is a losing battle here.
joe rogan
You're dealing with a Burger King employee.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
I used to do a joke about it that I think that the people who work at security and the people that work at Burger King are like the same people.
It's just they reach their hand into a bucket.
Who are you today?
Oh, I got fries.
Damn, I got bomb control.
kevin pereira
Yep.
I'm on foot swabbing or I'm on rubbing the belt line.
joe rogan
Well, I'm security today.
kevin pereira
Excited.
joe rogan
I hate mopping that fucking floor.
kevin pereira
I'm all for people having jobs, but we need repair infrastructure.
Run after-school programs.
Do something that benefits your community and society more than this.
joe rogan
Well, I see.
I think that we need security at airports.
kevin pereira
We do.
joe rogan
Just because there's been so many instances in the past of people using airplanes, hijacking airplanes.
kevin pereira
The reinforcing of the doors was the best thing that happened.
That was the one security measure that said, look, now as a society, no one will ever hijack a plane again.
If it's sourced in America, if it's flown out of here, everybody in that cabin will fight and die to make sure that plane doesn't get hijacked.
joe rogan
And air marshals, too.
I think air marshals are important, too.
I think it's good to have a guy up there who's an actual bad motherfucker who knows how to take care of shit if some wacky motherfucker tries to blow his shoes up.
unidentified
Right.
kevin pereira
And some people even make the argument, by the way, that guns on planes would have stopped some of 9-11.
That if someone actually had a gun on that flight, you know, and the risk of a bullet going through and the sudden loss of cabin pressure is overrated, I don't know that I subscribe to that, but I could see how that's a valid argument.
I could see how someone could make that.
We do need security, but the leaps and bounds that we've gone to are inefficient.
They don't work.
It's costing us millions and millions of dollars.
joe rogan
The companies suck and they're dealing with gigantic numbers of employees because they have these setups at every goddamn airport in every goddamn city all over this country.
There's a lot of fucking airports.
So there's no way they're really paying attention and monitoring it on a really intense level.
And looking at it, like, how can we make this a better experience for the people?
Except for, like, those things where you go and you put your name in and you get scanned and then you go through pre, like TSA pre.
kevin pereira
Right, like the blue or the clear programs and stuff.
But that I have another issue with, though, because sometimes you have to pay more.
So now they're creating another tiered society where the haves don't have the inconveniences.
joe rogan
Don't hate on the 1%, dude.
kevin pereira
Just because they want to get through the airport, I'm one of the guys that can afford the premium tickets so I get through the TSA. I'm blessed.
I live a good life.
joe rogan
I see what you have.
unidentified
Listen.
kevin pereira
Listen, motherfucker.
I'm blessed.
joe rogan
Did you show me the keys to your car?
kevin pereira
Sure did.
Yeah, the keys to the Kingdoms, baby.
The A7. I love it.
Oh, beautiful.
joe rogan
Nice car.
kevin pereira
Thank you.
I love it.
joe rogan
Wow.
You want a spaceship.
That's a spaceship.
kevin pereira
And the technology in it, it's pretty close to a car that drives itself.
I don't touch the gas pedal anymore.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is the Audi A7. Which they passed today, by the way.
kevin pereira
Self-driving cars.
brian redban
Self-driving cars passed today.
unidentified
Let's do it.
brian redban
Awesome.
kevin pereira
Go back to old cars.
Mine has the adaptive cruise where you press the button, it'll automatically stay.
It'll match pace with the car in front of it.
So I don't really...
Even on surface streets, like city streets, I don't really touch a gas pedal.
I get it up to speed, hit a button, and I kind of...
brian redban
Really?
kevin pereira
Yeah, it's easier to send tweets that way.
joe rogan
Oh, you silly bitch.
kevin pereira
But there has been a time or two where I'm just kind of zoning out.
I'm not using my phone, but I am like, oh, the car's driving itself.
And all of a sudden...
Bling!
And it has the heads-up display, so it puts my miles per hour and my turn-by-turn on the windshield.
You're seeing it out through there.
It turns bright red, and it's like warning collision.
So I have to slam on the brakes, and I'm like, fucking R2-D2 fell asleep at my wheel.
Fucking short circuit was not paying attention.
I almost slammed into the car in front of me.
joe rogan
Did someone just get in front of you really quick?
kevin pereira
No.
I mean, we were just casually going.
I mean, it's much safer to use those systems on a highway where there might not be so much start and stop.
joe rogan
Oh, so it hiccups?
kevin pereira
Sometimes it's a little lax.
I'm sure it's busy processing my Bluetooth audio and goes, oh shit, you're driving!
It has to switch over to that.
joe rogan
My favorite car that I have is my Porsche because it's the race car.
The GT3, because it doesn't have anything in it.
It has navigation, but the navigation sucks.
kevin pereira
Does it have seats in the back?
joe rogan
Yeah, no.
kevin pereira
No seats in the back.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
kevin pereira
It has nothing.
joe rogan
And not only that, it doesn't do anything.
There's no heads-up display.
It's just mechanical.
It's just machine, and you shift the gears yourself.
You don't allow the thing to stop and break.
It's the exact opposite.
But that does get tiring for a lot of people, especially if you work all day.
kevin pereira
Dude, I've got to browse Reddit.
I don't have time to shift gears.
I've got to catch up on my news.
joe rogan
You're joking around about that, but you really shouldn't.
No one should do it.
kevin pereira
And no one should live out rape fantasies either.
joe rogan
Some girls like that, though.
I don't think anybody likes running over somebody because they were tweeting.
While driving.
Yeah.
Eventually, it's going to be really smooth where you're going to be able to accomplish that stuff as you're driving.
But I don't even trust people to even...
kevin pereira
Well, the law just passed for self-driving cars.
How do you feel about that?
In California, they're street legal now.
joe rogan
It's been effective.
They've been using it, and Google's been using it for quite a while.
You could find it online.
kevin pereira
The only known collision, or at least six months ago when I was reading about it, the only known collision in one of those Google self-driving cars was when the operator took it out of self-drive mode and was manually driving it.
But they still had to document it because it was a collision with the car.
joe rogan
Well, I think that I enjoy driving.
I enjoy the experience of shifting my own gears.
When you have a fun car, like the GT3, driving becomes like a ride.
I take a ride home.
kevin pereira
Right, but not when you have a commute.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin pereira
That's not fun.
Like shifting gears when you're stopped on the 405 and holding in a clutch, that's shitty.
And so to let my car drive and then maybe free me up to do an extra hour of productive work or focus on my book on tape, my audible.com slash Joe download to focus on that, that makes sense to me.
joe rogan
Oh, totally.
But you know what doesn't make sense?
That kind of traffic.
You see, we've got to figure out a way to not...
kevin pereira
That's not going to disappear anytime soon.
joe rogan
I am going to disappear.
I'm not going to live like this my whole life.
I tried escaping once.
I'm going to try again.
I don't know.
I'm thinking maybe Santa Barbara.
I might try Santa Barbara for a while because it's only like an hour away.
kevin pereira
You're going to live in the zoo?
You're going to have them build you a...
You should have them build you a little cabin in a tiger cage.
joe rogan
That shit bums me out.
We might be living in a fucking zoo.
How about that, pal?
How about this whole planet might be a zoo?
brian redban
Look at this robot guy with his Google glasses.
kevin pereira
Oh my god, I can't wait!
brian redban
I can't wait!
kevin pereira
Did you check out Black Mirror, by the way?
Did you guys look at that shit?
Did you watch that?
No.
joe rogan
So many things to watch, man.
But I did see the little Wayne deposition.
kevin pereira
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Did you see that?
The one that's been making the...
Have you seen it, Brian?
You've got to pull it up.
Because I just became a Lil Wayne fan.
kevin pereira
Oh, me too.
joe rogan
I was not a Lil Wayne fan up until this.
I love that dude now.
kevin pereira
It was that Chappelle skit of I Plead the Fifth.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm thinking of getting a Lil Wayne tattoo.
brian redban
Okay?
joe rogan
That's how badass this dude is.
Yeah, man.
He's suing these people because they made a documentary about him, and apparently it has a lot of false information, according to Mr. Wayne.
And so they asked him a bunch of stupid questions at this deposition, but the way he answered it was beautiful.
It was hilarious, man.
kevin pereira
And I love the veiled threat, which many have debated whether or not it's a threat.
joe rogan
Don't even say it.
Oh, don't even say it.
kevin pereira
Wait, don't spoil it?
joe rogan
We're going to play it, yeah.
brian redban
There you go.
joe rogan
It happened just a couple of days ago.
kevin pereira
It's pretty great.
joe rogan
And it's hard to get without the WorldStarHipHop.
kevin pereira
That is my new homepage, man.
What is that?
The watermark?
joe rogan
Watermark, yeah.
kevin pereira
I love me some WorldStarHipHop.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's my problem.
If you go to my computer and you type in W in the browser, it just goes WorldStarHipHop.com.
He knows I want to see some fucked up fight footage.
kevin pereira
Are you going to watch that Kanye sex tape when it leaks on that site?
joe rogan
Is there a Kanye West?
There's two of them.
Two of them?
Kanye West has sex tapes?
kevin pereira
Yeezy.
joe rogan
Really?
kevin pereira
Yeah, and there's a rumor that one of them is with the Kardashian, but apparently it's a lookalike girl.
They have a video of her for some booty shaking contest, which I love that that is a competitive sport.
joe rogan
Is he doing this on purpose, releasing these?
kevin pereira
He's apparently offered millions of dollars to stop the release, so I don't know.
I doubt.
At his level at this point, why would he need to do that?
joe rogan
So the girls are releasing it?
kevin pereira
No, I think they were stolen off of his computer.
joe rogan
Stolen off of his computer.
kevin pereira
Stolen, which who knows if someone physically stole them or hacked in or whatever, but that's what I read.
Is this it?
Oh, Animal Practice!
unidentified
Let's watch Animal Practice.
Tonight with Bobby Lee.
How would you describe your image in the media?
How would I describe my image in the media?
Yes.
I wouldn't describe it.
Well, how would you describe it if you had to?
I don't have to.
Well, what image are you portraying in the media?
I don't portray anything.
I am who I am.
And you guys portray what you get.
Well, who are you?
Who is the real...
I am Dwayne Michael Carter Jr. Okay.
Do you, uh...
Like to portray yourself as...
I just answered that and said that I don't like to portray myself as nobody.
I completely beat Dwayne Michael Carter Jr. I don't portray myself as anything.
An image is self-described.
Well, you have to wait until I'm done with the question.
I don't have to wait until anything, honestly.
I mean, this guy right here may tell me that I have to wait, but personally, I don't have to do nothing.
Go ahead, ask the question.
Thank you, Your Honor.
Do you like to...
No, he can't save you, right?
In the real world.
That guy right there.
He can't save you in the real world.
Jesus.
What does that mean?
I don't have to elaborate.
Can I ask your next question, please, Mr. Ross?
Is that a threat against us?
Mr. Ross, can you just ask your next question, please?
He can't save you.
And what does that mean?
I was talking to myself.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
kevin pereira
He can't save you in the real world.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
Love it.
joe rogan
He's a beautiful human being.
brian redban
Love it.
kevin pereira
What a great fuck you to that lawyer.
joe rogan
That was beautiful.
Yeah.
Because that guy was talking to him in that weird formal speak that you have to do if you give a deposition.
Right.
That's not human.
It's weird.
It's almost like removing a lot of context.
kevin pereira
It's like they speak like text messages.
There's no emotion, there's no context.
It's a legal document flowing out of someone's mouth because he's writing the question.
He's transcribing it as he goes.
It needs to sound legally correct.
joe rogan
Well, I thought it was brilliant that he was trying to get Little Wayne to define himself.
And what a bullshit question.
kevin pereira
How would you describe the media's portrayal?
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
And it also depends what site.
Depends what outlet.
joe rogan
You don't have to.
kevin pereira
How would you describe the media's portrayal of you, Joe?
joe rogan
Fear Factor guy.
kevin pereira
Really?
You think that's still the case?
joe rogan
The UFC guy, maybe?
kevin pereira
Maybe the UFC guy.
joe rogan
Meathead?
Little midget meathead?
kevin pereira
But doesn't it depend on what outlet?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it depends on whether they like you or they don't like you.
kevin pereira
Exactly.
joe rogan
Sure, for sure.
It depends on whether or not they have a motivation.
I think it's pretty clear at this point that what you're getting on the news is not...
Just the information of all the things that's happening all over the world.
They have an agenda.
And if their agenda is to mock you, if you're a celebrity who they love, they might talk about you in glowing terms.
Or if you're a celebrity who...
kevin pereira
Even if you get arrested because you slammed your SUV into a pole while doing rails of cocaine, it's like...
joe rogan
No, no, they wouldn't then.
Then they always talk down on you.
kevin pereira
It depends on the celebrity.
joe rogan
You could be a person like Jennifer Lopez is getting married, and that's a piece of news.
Or you could be like Lindsay Lohan crashed her car again.
kevin pereira
I think it does depend on the celebrity.
Mel Gibson had another oopsie today on the side of the road.
joe rogan
No, they hate that guy.
That guy's done.
kevin pereira
But there are some celebrities that they treat with kid gloves because they're worried they won't sit down for the next junket to promote their movie.
That happens.
joe rogan
I don't think anymore, man.
I really don't think too many people get...
kevin pereira
I feel like I've worked in it too much to know what people will say and won't say because they're afraid they'll lose access.
joe rogan
I feel like when you get a certain level of fucked-up-edness, though, drunk driving, things along those lines...
kevin pereira
Yes, if you drown kittens in a barrel, all bets are off.
But there are some...
They'll forgive some celebrities, and they'll forgive some personalities if they feel like later on it might benefit them or if they're worried.
joe rogan
Certainly, if they're trying to get more interviews, I guess.
kevin pereira
Yeah, they're worried about pulling the thing.
Like, Apple is one of those companies that blogs are afraid to write about, and it's a bit of a tangent, but they're afraid to write about them in certain negative ways because they're worried they won't be allowed into their conference or get an early review unit.
joe rogan
Right, that has happened.
kevin pereira
Yeah, they pulled all the plugs for Gizmodo once Gizmodo leaked that iPhone stuff, once they got the guy's iPhone from the bar.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
kevin pereira
They said, fuck you, Gizmodo will never get a thing again.
unidentified
Still?
joe rogan
To this day, they still don't even get in there?
kevin pereira
They're not going to forgive those grudges.
joe rogan
Wow.
How rude, Apple.
Steve Jobs is dead.
Can't we all just get along?
You fucks.
kevin pereira
You getting the five?
brian redban
What's this Black Mirror?
joe rogan
Yeah, I am now.
kevin pereira
Dude, I plugged Black Mirror violently on this last podcast, and everybody was like, thank you so much for introducing me to this.
This is just one of the episodes here.
It's a Channel 4 miniseries.
I don't need to belabor it because I did it last time.
joe rogan
And what's it about again?
kevin pereira
It's about near future societal issues that will come about because of the rapid changing pace of technology.
That is the seed that sprouts I find it interesting that we're talking about it as like problems in the future.
joe rogan
It's really not problems.
We're the problem.
The reality is the assimilation is...
kevin pereira
Well, I said the societal issues because, like, we were talking about Google Glasses, right?
When you have the ability to life vlog, when the device is light enough, powerful enough, cheap enough, and easy enough to, I record 24 hours here, whatever I see, and I can play it back like that, that's what one of the issues, or one of the episodes is about.
So you watch a couple try to navigate a relationship where every moment is fucking recorded.
So he's like, I want to see what happened June 12th when you were with that guy at 3 p.m.
Show me that moment.
Pull it up.
You know, she's frantically trying to delete it.
Hey, when we had that argument two hours ago, you said this and it really upset me.
I didn't say it like that.
Oh, yeah?
Boom.
Pull that moment up and look at it.
That's an issue that will happen.
joe rogan
There's a commercial that they were running really recently about a dash cam.
They sell dash cams now so the guy pulls over someone and it's like this is a reenactment of an actual accident in New York City and the woman goes this guy hit me and the guy goes up to the cop and says would you like me to tell you what happened or show you what happened and the cops what do you mean he goes I have a dashboard camera and it shows him the camera and clearly shows the woman hitting him right so he goes ma'am let me just tell you that lying to an officer is you know a crime Do you want to go to jail?
Tell me the truth.
And she goes, okay, I hit him.
kevin pereira
Yeah.
If you search for Russian dash cam or Russian insurance fraud dash cam.
joe rogan
Okay, but hold on.
Is that bad?
kevin pereira
What?
joe rogan
Because it seems like the guy's protected from accidents.
unidentified
That seems good.
kevin pereira
That seems good.
joe rogan
And maybe like a cop beating your ass.
That's another possibility.
Some cop who's having a hard day decides to kick your ass because he thinks no one's watching.
kevin pereira
I certainly didn't mean to imply that technology will only lead to negative societal consequences.
This miniseries just happens to explore them in that way.
joe rogan
Just the negative ones.
kevin pereira
Yeah, it does it in a beautiful, poetic way.
With that said, you know this, I'm a proponent of the point of singularity.
joe rogan
Of the Borg.
kevin pereira
I want transcendentalism.
Like, put as much plastic, put PC parts in me.
joe rogan
Of course, you're already not driving your fucking car.
kevin pereira
Exactly, let's go.
Put it in me.
I wanted to get RFID chip back when RFID first came out so I could have all my credit cards, my remote entry, and my badges to my work.
I wanted them all to be put in there so I could just swipe my hand.
joe rogan
You know, that was one thing that the...
What are you watching, Brian?
Is this an accident?
brian redban
Yeah, I think what happened is this lady backs into a cop and what I'm guessing is that she's going to say something like, you ran into the back of me.
kevin pereira
Well, there are great videos of people in China and Russia running at cars that are parked in the streets and then leaping onto the hoods and rolling off and then getting up and going, oh, my back!
But they're literally charging the cars.
joe rogan
What were you just saying before Brian showed this video?
kevin pereira
Talking about transhumanism, about the RFID chip where you swipe and have it put in your hand.
joe rogan
Oh, that's it.
Mythbusters said that that was the one episode that they were not allowed to air.
They couldn't do an episode on the RFID chips.
They were told by their network that that was a subject of interest they could not explore.
kevin pereira
You know what happened with those guys?
I don't know if you heard the story, but they were going to do it, and the guys behind the RFID tech and chip makers said, Yeah, we just want to get on the phone with you to discuss the technology and discuss the show before we help you out or whatever.
And so they hopped on the line, and on the other side of the line was like 40 lawyers from credit card companies, from security firms, saying you cannot do this episode.
You cannot talk about RFID.
It is the most unsecure fucking system in the world.
Absolutely unsecure.
You can build cheap Pringles can readers for them, pull the data right off of them, you can hack them, you can clone them.
There's good videos of the...
joe rogan
Okay, well, why don't you explain to everybody who doesn't know, what the fuck does RFID mean?
kevin pereira
It's remote, I believe it's remote frequency identification.
It's basically, think of a chip the size of a grain of rice, or sometimes they're like flat.
They're very, very low to no power devices that can be passively read.
So if you have a beacon, a reader, they...
joe rogan
So they can put it in your phone, they can put it in your clothes.
kevin pereira
Phone, clothes, they use it like security systems in malls.
When you walk through a reader, that's because a lot of them are RFID based.
It has pinged the product and that sent it off and said, "Okay, this is a security barrier being reached." Those little credit cards, when you tap them to readers, a lot of that is RFID.
Some of it is near field communication, which is a slightly different standard that's coming about now, but there's a lot of RFID.
Swiping for security in buildings, that all exists.
It's been hacked to high heaven.
You can buy RFID readers.
You can read all the information.
You can hack it.
Passports that have RFID in them now.
They're very unsafe.
People can pull out your info.
They can clone it.
They can copy it.
I'm not entirely sure.
There's great videos of BMWs now being hacked.
They sell blank keys that you can code the wireless key start on them.
And there's a pretty easy process to just pop it into the car.
And have it write the new key code to it, like a dealer kind of thing.
And you can start the cars and drive off.
Now, they fixed it since, and it's not just a BMW thing, but these guys can be read and hacked.
And that's why they don't want the Mythbusters to talk about it, because we're now building foundations, and we're building institutions in our daily lives that are built on faulty security premises.
Like, we're all becoming very comfortable with near-field communication and tapping things and whatever, and yet they're completely hackable and easily cloned and easily broken.
joe rogan
Is it something that can be fixed in the future and they don't want to alert people before they develop a fix for it?
kevin pereira
Well, look, if they've invested millions of dollars in creating new systems and transitioning their key cards and passports to this technology, the last thing they want is a security concern.
But this is an age-old problem.
Security is always an issue.
It's built by a human being.
It'll be broken by a human being.
So there's no really fixing it.
You can make it stronger.
You can make it smarter.
Sure.
There's no real fixing it.
joe rogan
So the future of the world when it comes to technology and it is dependent upon our cooperation because at some point in time We're going to all have access to anything.
Essentially, we're going to all be readable.
Everywhere we go.
kevin pereira
All the time.
We're heading that way right now.
joe rogan
It's almost like it's setting itself up so that no one can ever really truly be in control.
And that it does have to be sort of a group decision at the very top.
Because at a certain point in time, like right now, who's tracking us?
kevin pereira
In what regard?
joe rogan
What I'm saying is, right now, if you're looking at technology, right now, the government's tracking us.
They have GPS in your phone.
kevin pereira
So is Facebook and Apple.
joe rogan
There's GPS in your phone.
The GPS in your phone knows exactly where your location is.
But at a certain point in time, I'm going to know where your location is, too.
It's not going to just be the government.
It's going to be anybody who wants to know.
It's going to get to the point where everything is going to be accessible.
kevin pereira
Well, we'll accept that for convenience.
There are apps now that allow me to find my friends, or there's an app where I can send you a temporary GPS tracking token for my phone.
So if we're all trying to meet up at a restaurant or an amusement park, you don't have to text me and say, dude, where are you?
You can pull me up on a map and see that I'm five minutes away, and it'll give you what street I'm on.
So we'll accept some of that in the name of convenience.
joe rogan
And fun.
kevin pereira
It's fun.
At Coachella, oh, hey, look, we're all little dots running around.
Let's play a Pac-Man game.
joe rogan
That's pretty dope, actually.
kevin pereira
Yeah, no, that will be cool, and we'll accept that to an extent, but then we will also have privacy controls, which A, will likely be able to be hacked, and B, the government will not, they'll ignore those.
joe rogan
The government, man!
kevin pereira
They fucking will, though.
Did you see that Apple has a trademark or a patent on a technology that allows the government to disable the recording of a phone?
joe rogan
Yes.
It allows people to shut off the phone's video capabilities remotely so that you can't videotape protests.
kevin pereira
Or they don't specifically say protest.
joe rogan
That's the best reason for it.
Why else would you want it?
kevin pereira
It's for your security is what they say.
For your security.
joe rogan
Why would it ever be in your best interest to not be able to videotape something?
kevin pereira
We need a new digital bill of rights that says that if...
joe rogan
By the way, let me just say for the record that the reason for developing this technology is that Apple is involved in many patent lawsuits and all...
And so when it comes to the ability to record bands, you're getting to a point where the new phone has 8 megapixels, the fucking video's fantastic.
You can almost get something that you could put out and it would be a really good version of it.
And the problem with that is you could record people and then put their shit online.
So they want to be able to have a concert and say, well, you can't record this concert.
Especially for stand-up comedians, it becomes a real problem when you go to a town and everybody knows your shit.
So, that's Apple's idea, is that they would set it up so that if there was a concert, you couldn't record the concert, they would shut off.
kevin pereira
But A, I still think that's a huge security concern.
I mean, that could be a wild security concern as well.
joe rogan
Well, it's an awesome move for fucking Samsung.
Because everybody's just going to want to go Android.
kevin pereira
Oh, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
joe rogan
They'll be like, fuck this.
kevin pereira
Or they'll build the feature into their phones and then have to pay Apple millions of dollars once they sue.
joe rogan
Right.
kevin pereira
One of the two will happen there.
joe rogan
How does that work now?
kevin pereira
There's a great app.
The name is escaping me, but it actually stitches together multiple recordings based off of visual cues and audio waveforms and time codes.
So if you're at a concert, if you're at a Coachella, and there's 40 people in the crowd that are filming it with their iPhones, they can all upload their video, and it will stitch those angles together.
unidentified
Right.
kevin pereira
As best as it can so you can kind of jump around.
brian redban
That's badass.
kevin pereira
That's getting awesome.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
brian redban
Yeah.
kevin pereira
That's fucking cool.
joe rogan
Dude, that's a mind-fucking-aff, isn't it?
kevin pereira
But you won't be using it and streaming it live thanks to Verizon's data caps.
unidentified
Aww.
joe rogan
What is Verizon's data caps now?
kevin pereira
Any company that's selling limited data plans right now is stifling innovation and fucking consumers over and fucking over entire industries.
joe rogan
Who doesn't have limited?
kevin pereira
Sprint's the only one, but they barely have a network.
joe rogan
They have a decent network.
I've been using it, dude, for Tang, and it's good.
kevin pereira
It's a shadow of what AT&T and Verizon provide.
joe rogan
As far as 4G, maybe.
kevin pereira
Right.
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
But not as far as coverage.
kevin pereira
No, no, no.
It's fine for coverage.
But the problem is that now we're training customers and consumers to second-guess their decisions when it comes to data.
Like, could you imagine on your home computer second-guessing downloading World of Warcraft?
Well, you might because you don't play it.
But downloading a movie, streaming Netflix, any of those things.
joe rogan
Because you're worried about the money.
kevin pereira
You're worried about the data cap.
We're going back, we're regressing from unlimited back to the days of you got 90 free hours or 4 free megs on Prodigy.
joe rogan
So it used to be unlimited and then with the iPhone it really kind of clogged up the network, right?
kevin pereira
That was the big concern with AT&T. With smartphones in general, that signaled the shift from being a traditional voice device to now I rarely make calls on my phone.
I'm sending texts, I'm streaming videos, I'm tweeting, I'm on Reddit, Facebook.
joe rogan
We never talk on the phone.
Text each other.
kevin pereira
Yeah, and we Skype because it's easier to see you.
I feel like you're so close to me.
You can cuddle me through the internet.
But to that point, I did like two Skype sessions on the road with a Verizon little 4G hotspot, a little jetpack, and I used up 3.9 gigs in just like an hour of video chat.
And so now I was afraid to check emails and do work.
And I'm like, this is bad for an entire industry.
This will stifle innovation because the Instagram of video might not get created.
If it takes up too much bandwidth.
joe rogan
Well, why is cellular so much more expensive than, say, broadband?
Because they can.
Is that all it is?
kevin pereira
Because they can.
They would say it's because it's more expensive to launch the satellites and the bandwidth itself is crazy expensive.
I mean, you can throttle during peak usage, but there's no reason to limit how much data I can suck down at 3 a.m.
Your network is not that congested.
The air is there.
joe rogan
Is it more expensive for them if people use more?
kevin pereira
Well, it's more taxing on their system and their infrastructure.
joe rogan
That's what I was going to ask you.
Or is it that their system can't handle it?
kevin pereira
Sure.
I mean, at some point, yes, it gets to that.
joe rogan
So that's a way of limiting it, by getting people to pay more?
kevin pereira
Right, but the price of...
I mean, there's been studies that show that what you pay now for bandwidth, even though it is more expensive and it's faster, what you pay now for bandwidth is exponentially higher than what you used to pay.
And bandwidth should be getting cheaper.
And the problem that I had, like I went in to get a jetpack from Verizon, and A, you have to pay to be a new customer, right?
Just to put you in a system.
You have to pay for the SIM card, essentially, that they're going to pop into your device, that you're going to tether to the account.
You have to pay for the device itself, sign up for a contract.
Then, with their data plans, you have to pay for the data, you have to buy the bandwidth, the four gigs a month, and you have to pay extra to tether to the device that you just bought, that you're under contract for.
You have to pay to tether that to the data.
Like, I don't mean to get on the nerdiest soapbox in the fucking world, but that is bullshit.
That's like going into a restaurant, paying to go into the door, paying to sit down for your table, ordering water.
You have to pay for the water, pay for the cup that it's going to go into, and then when you go to drink the water, they're like, no, no, no, no, you have to tether a straw to that water.
I know you just bought that one, you're paying monthly, you're paying out the ass for it, even though it's just coming from a garden hose, but you gotta pay to tether a straw to sip that water.
It's fucking highway robbery.
joe rogan
Is that gonna get better?
kevin pereira
Maybe.
joe rogan
How can you fix that?
You'd have to have more companies get involved, right?
kevin pereira
There's got to be collusion going on because once Verizon announces we're going to do this type of a data plan, AT&T follows suit.
Sooner or later, Sprint will, once their network gets more popular and the devices get sold there.
joe rogan
Verizon can't, you can't use data and calls at the same time, even under 4G, under the new phone.
brian redban
On the new iPhone, you can't.
kevin pereira
I think you can on LTE, can you not?
You can on LTE. Because it reverts to the 3G network.
brian redban
You can on every single phone except the iPhone.
On Verizon's network.
kevin pereira
You can or can't?
joe rogan
You can't.
kevin pereira
Fantastic.
joe rogan
You can't do it on the iPhone, but you can do that on every single phone except the iPhone.
So if you buy the Galaxy S3, you can do it.
kevin pereira
I love the Galaxy.
I hate those commercials.
No better way to make me not give a shit about your product than by spending three minutes of airtime telling me that I'm a douchebag.
joe rogan
Why are you watching commercials?
I don't watch commercials.
kevin pereira
Well, they happen before web videos now, and sometimes they're hard to skip.
joe rogan
I just fucking close my eyes and hit mute.
brian redban
What do you think about the Samsung Note?
joe rogan
You can't get me, bitch.
brian redban
Have you played with the Note?
kevin pereira
I haven't really thought about the Note much.
I'm not a tablet kind of guy.
joe rogan
The Galaxy Note phone that's sort of a half tablet.
kevin pereira
Oh, that one.
We reviewed it on Attack when I was still there.
What?
joe rogan
It's delicious.
kevin pereira
Holding a giant tablet to your head?
joe rogan
I have big hands.
It doesn't bother me.
I like it.
kevin pereira
It looks like a Bluetooth headset on you.
It does not on me.
joe rogan
I love it.
kevin pereira
It's not on me.
joe rogan
I need it in my life.
kevin pereira
You haven't seen those commercials though where they show people waiting in line for the iPhone?
unidentified
Oh yeah, I have.
kevin pereira
It makes them look like assholes talking about the incremental features.
I'm like, listen, spend your 30 seconds telling me why your phone is better, which they barely do in the commercial.
They just spend time trying to make me feel like an asshole because I use an iPhone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin pereira
I'm not opposed to your advice.
It's a good tactic.
joe rogan
It's a political tactic.
kevin pereira
Not at all.
It's a terrible tactic.
It's like Mitt Romney's doing.
Because if you want to tap into a guy like me.
joe rogan
Making fun of Obama.
Sell his product.
He's selling Mitt Romney by making fun of Obama.
I mean, that's what he's doing.
kevin pereira
He's doing a great job of selling it, too.
joe rogan
He's doing a great job.
He knows he has to get just the 53% of the country that pays tacos.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those are his people.
kevin pereira
Fuck the freeloaders.
Don't care about them.
It's everybody else.
joe rogan
Anybody who doesn't pay income tax, he doesn't give a fuck about.
That was one of the biggest gaffes in political history.
kevin pereira
That wasn't a gaffe, though.
joe rogan
No, it's not.
Well, it is a gaffe because you don't think George Bush Sr., George Bush W., you don't think those guys think the exact same way.
kevin pereira
Well, that's what I mean.
Yeah, it was a gaffe in the sense that it got out and he said it, but that's what they really think.
joe rogan
Of course, he's a businessman.
kevin pereira
Of course that's what they think.
joe rogan
There's never been a businessman that looked out for people.
You think about a guy like, and he's a ruthless businessman.
When you get to be...
kevin pereira
The Bain Capital of the world?
joe rogan
You get hundreds of millions of dollars of profit, ladies and gentlemen.
You don't do it by doing what's best for people.
You do it by doing what's best for your company.
You do it by maximizing ones and zeros.
That's it.
And you do it at the expense of humanity.
It's a creepy idea that a businessman...
kevin pereira
There's no soul on the spreadsheet.
You're a one and a zero.
You're a bottom line to a businessman.
joe rogan
That's it.
This smacks of racism.
I am not an Obama fan.
I do not like what he's done as far as civil liberties go.
I think as a human being, he seems like a great guy.
I don't understand why he's such a shit president.
Because as a human being, I see the way he interacts with people.
He seems like a genuine fun guy.
You hear stories of him in college.
He smoked a lot of weed.
But it's super, super disappointing to me.
There's a big difference between him and Mitt Romney.
Mitt Romney is a creepy-ass businessman and the idea that this guy being a businessman would somehow or another be better for this country I don't believe you think that.
I think you're racist.
That's what I think it is.
I think there's a lot of people that just want to believe that Mitt Romney would do a better job because he's a businessman and he would get things done.
Obama's for the redistribution of wealth.
But then you press them about it.
They really don't even know what the fuck that means.
90% of the people that talk about Obama being for the redistribution of wealth They don't even understand what the real concern amongst these socialist ideas are.
Most of what he's saying is really not a redistribution of wealth in the classical sense.
It's not like trying to steal money from people and Robin Hood the motherfucker.
But you talk to a guy like Mitt Romney and he will put ones and zeros ahead of people for fucking sure.
And he will think that if rich people get richer, they will make more jobs for the poor people and the poor people will be okay.
And he will cut away funding and he will ultimately do things that are not good for people that are struggling.
That's what I believe.
When you talk about his tax policies and you find out that middle class people will actually have to pay more money.
kevin pereira
Taxes are going up on him.
joe rogan
An average $2,000 more per year.
Fuck you, man.
Fuck you!
kevin pereira
For a guy who paid 14%.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's incredible that people would say that this guy seems like he'd be a good choice.
I say even for what he's saying he would do, I don't believe that he's going to do anything he says he'll do.
Because Obama didn't do anything he said he would do.
He didn't close down Guantanamo Bay.
He didn't stop fucking with the medical pot shops.
He didn't do anything he said he was going to do.
He didn't pull out of Iraq until years after.
We're still there, by the way.
We never really pull out.
We have a fucking enormous base there, filled with soldiers.
There's no pulling out.
There's no pulling out anywhere.
We have bases in a hundred countries plus.
But just what Mitt Romney says he would do, I'm like, you really want that?
Fuck you, man.
Fuck you, you don't want that.
You just want a white guy.
I've talked to people, and I'm like, listening to the things they're saying, and they don't even really know what the fuck Mitt Romney stands for.
They don't know what he's done.
kevin pereira
And I think that is true.
I don't necessarily know that their decision, though, is rooted in racism.
I think it's just kind of rooted in a general ignorance about what he's really done.
joe rogan
There's that, but there's also this wanting...
kevin pereira
Certainly there's a swath of racists out there.
joe rogan
Look, he's a Mormon.
I can't say that enough.
That's a silly thing to be.
I have friends who are Mormons.
kevin pereira
That hasn't really come up in a way that I thought it would.
joe rogan
Well, you can't.
You can't really bring it up because there's a lot of people in this country that are religious.
And if you start making fun of religion, you're going to lose a big giant chunk of them.
No one is saying, ladies and gentlemen, there's no God.
I am the last person to say there's no God.
You know why?
Because I haven't died, and because I've experienced some things in this life that are completely unexplainable.
I'm not sure that reality makes any sense.
I'm not sure that reality is just something you can touch and feel.
I have a feeling there's many more layers to this that we're not perceiving.
There could easily be something like a God, but I'll tell you what's not real.
Mormonism.
It's not real that a fucking kid in 1820 who was 14 years old, a kid named Joseph Smith, found golden tablets that contained the lost work of Jesus and that only he could read them because he had a magic rock.
kevin pereira
An ex-con, by the way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
josh olin
Well, not at 14 he wasn't.
joe rogan
At 14 he was just a con man.
He became an ex-con.
And a polygamist, by the way.
They fucking took over Europe because he wanted to bang multiple bitches.
He didn't want to be married to one broad...
The idea that you think that that guy had it all wrapped up, that he was the messiah, that he was the prophet, you're a fucking idiot, okay?
That's a Dr. Seuss book.
It's not even a good Dr. Seuss book.
He found a magic rock so he could read the tablets.
That's nonsense.
So if you're saying that you are a nonsense person, no, you can't be the president.
At least, like, Christianity, and at least Islam.
We don't know the people who wrote them.
kevin pereira
This old, old, old, old, old shit.
joe rogan
When things get over a thousand years old, it gets super blurry as to who really wrote it.
unidentified
But we know the guy who wrote the Book of Mormon!
joe rogan
We know the fucking guy!
kevin pereira
You can read the wiki and see how it all got started, because Jball17 lays it out.
joe rogan
Did you know that they believe that there's another planet, and then the Osmond brothers had an album based on this planet?
Yes.
What is the fucking planet?
The Mormon planet?
kevin pereira
Like Kleptar.
joe rogan
Oh, something ridiculous.
Mormon planet Osmond.
say this you know people say who the fuck you fucking atheist fucking this i i am not an atheist i'm not an atheist but i am not a believer in bullshit and it's a weird thing to me that in this day and age you can look at something that obvious and people resist the idea that that's bullshit you resist the idea that did jesus really come back from the dead do I'm not saying Jesus didn't exist.
I don't fucking know that Jesus existed.
But I guarantee you, he didn't fucking just die and magically come back to life.
And it's written down.
And because some crazy fucks that wrote a bunch of other questionable shit down, that clearly thought that slavery was okay, Clearly treated women as second-class citizens.
Clearly said that you should fucking be killed if you wear two different types of cloth at the same time.
I mean, there's so much Looney Tunes shit with that book.
You can't live your life based on it.
kevin pereira
But the Mormons figured out the loophole for banging multiple wives at the same time.
You gotta hand them that, and I could see why someone would subscribe to that.
joe rogan
The planet is called Kolob.
kevin pereira
Yeah.
joe rogan
K-O-L-O-B. And the Osmonds have in their album, well they have one album called Kolob.
And if you pull up the image of it, Brian, Osmond Brothers, K-O-L-O-B, it's really weird because they have pictures drawn inside of what they think.
kevin pereira
Of the planet, of what it would look like, artist renderings.
joe rogan
I met Donny Osmond.
Donny Osmond, I did his show a couple times.
I did the Donny and Marie show with the news radio cast, and I did it by myself once.
And Donny Osmond is a very nice guy, but I showed him some pictures of some, I think some girl pulled her tits out at the comedy store.
Oh no, that's not what it was.
It was a black hooker when I was filming filming.
Let's film it Fear Factor.
I took this picture of this black hooker who's walking down the street eating a sandwich.
It's like the great Sasquatch photo from the Patterson Gimlin footage.
kevin pereira
Half obscured by a telephone pole as she's eating the sandwich.
joe rogan
It's the greatest photo.
I might have found a spaghetti.
It's the greatest photo.
I don't even know if it can be found online.
If you can find it online.
brian redban
Google hooker cheeseburger.
joe rogan
Is it online?
No.
She was eating a meatball sub, and she pulled her tit out, and she's got a meatball sub in her hand, and she's got a blonde wig.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And she pulled her tit out for me.
Well, she was a hooker.
She was trying to drum up some business.
kevin pereira
I think that was a viral for Subway.
I think she lost her sign, and she was just pointing for a meatball sub.
joe rogan
I was there.
It was real.
The universe smiled upon me.
kevin pereira
So you show it to Donnie.
joe rogan
I showed this to Donnie.
And I go, check this shit out.
I got this fucking picture today on the set.
And Donny Osmond looked at me like I just ate his cat in front of him.
He looked at me like I just gave him poison, shattered his world, ruined his chances at heaven.
kevin pereira
I wish you were recording that reaction.
joe rogan
The poor guy was shocked.
I mean, he was legitimately shocked.
And I thought about it, I was like...
How has this guy gotten through show business?
And I've met, like, Bret Michaels.
He was a very nice guy.
I met Tom Sizemore.
I met some real freaks, you know, and they were very nice guys that, you know, have gotten through this high level of show business.
I'm like, how is this guy, like, so weird?
How is he so weird?
kevin pereira
He's freaked out by pussy!
Has he seen Cake Farts or Two Girls, One Cup?
unidentified
I don't think he's seen anything.
kevin pereira
Because that needs to be a mission.
joe rogan
He's a super Mormon.
We need to get that in front of him.
kevin pereira
Great.
We need to get it in front of him and record that reaction.
joe rogan
Listen to Marie order him around.
It was magical.
kevin pereira
Is this your photo?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's it.
That's a real photo.
brian redban
I can't show it.
joe rogan
You can't show it?
Yes, you can.
Oh, because of Ustream?
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Listen, it's a woman's breast.
Let's take a chance.
Scroll it up real quick.
It's a real woman.
kevin pereira
Look at that.
joe rogan
It got flashed by the flashing.
The woman, the breasts, was, I mean, it was perfect.
That's fantastic.
kevin pereira
It draped over the hand.
joe rogan
It's literally like those photos on the moon where they're standing in a spotlight, where they're like, there's no way this could have actually been, like, set up that perfectly.
And it was a stupid-ass camera, too.
josh olin
It was a shitty, like, Motorola flip phone.
kevin pereira
Motorola E815, I think.
joe rogan
It's not even, like, one megapixel, I don't think.
I mean, I think it was maybe one megapixel.
It might have been a megapixel.
But it just was the perfect photo.
The lighting was perfect.
I love that picture.
I love that picture.
kevin pereira
That is proof that there is a God.
Because they smiled favorably upon you and gave you that moment in this world.
Beautifully lit.
joe rogan
I feel like there's something to that.
And perfectly lit.
And it was my background image on my computer, but every time I would open it up on a plane, I'd get fucking shitty looks from people.
kevin pereira
I had...
joe rogan
I would try to put folders in front of her tit, but...
You try to cover it up.
People would still get mad at me.
kevin pereira
Icons on the privates.
joe rogan
Yeah, I tried to put them in there that people would still like, what?
Really?
kevin pereira
I still leave landmines in my phone, like in my photo, just in the photo roll, because every now and then someone might pick up a phone, or if I'm on a set, I always make sure the wallpaper's interesting in case the phone goes off, so someone sees like just dudes fisting each other.
Something brilliant.
And they always kind of look at, oh, your phone, you got a tip, and they never finish what I got.
You got to, oh, okay.
It's my favorite thing in the world.
joe rogan
He's just thinking, like, this is the guy who calls him, and then he sees the picture of guys fisting when this guy calls him.
But no, it's every call.
kevin pereira
Yeah, it's the default wallpaper.
There was a while where it was a Photoshop of me getting fucked by Ryan Seacrest, which someone had made for me, and put it on a cake.
To celebrate me going on E! News.
It's a brilliant photo.
joe rogan
That is one of my favorite things though about the iPhone is that big-ass picture that comes up and someone calls.
I think that is amazing.
That to me is like very futuristic.
Like if you call me and I look at my phone and I see your face, I'm like, wow, that's kind of crazy.
That still fucking trips me out.
kevin pereira
Like FaceTime is getting there, but the ability to click and it's them video calling you, that's where it's at.
joe rogan
Did you find Kolob yet?
K-O-L-O-B. K-O-L-O-B. Yeah, you gotta see.
It's fucking nonsense.
I think it might be called The Plan.
brian redban
The Plan?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kevin pereira
Their album is called The Plan?
joe rogan
Yeah, it might not be Call Up.
It might be Call Up.
kevin pereira
Isn't that album songs about Mormonism, too?
Yes.
It's all in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, they talk about the crazy shit that they believe in.
It's one of the nuttiest...
kevin pereira
You need to see Book of Mormon.
joe rogan
Yeah, and I should see it.
Yeah, it's great.
It's also one of those religions where they are involved in the most arrests for having cults and fucking kids.
Whenever some polygamy guy gets busted, first of all, it could just be that they're setting him up with the kid fucking thing, but that's how they get him.
The polygamy thing.
kevin pereira
Well, who can resist?
joe rogan
Well, now they're also...
Vice.com has been doing a whole series on where Mitt Romney came from.
That Mitt Romney came from a religious sect of America, American Mormons, that moved to Mexico so they could still bang multiple wives.
Because polygamy became outlawed, so they were like, well fuck you, we'll just move over here.
So now they're involved in like, armed war with the cartels.
So it's the cartels versus the Romneys in Mexico.
Like, there's drug wars going on.
They're kidnapping them.
Romneys have been kidnapped.
Other people have been kidnapped.
It's fucking craziness.
kevin pereira
And who has more money, the cartels or the Romneys?
That's the question.
unidentified
The cartels do.
kevin pereira
I think the cartels do.
joe rogan
By a long shot.
They have gold everything.
Those guys make gold toothbrushes, gold guns.
Have you ever seen, like, how these guys...
kevin pereira
Gold jet skis.
joe rogan
Yeah, when they kill them and they find all their shit.
kevin pereira
It's really inefficient.
joe rogan
Gold pistols and...
You got any photos?
brian redban
No, I don't see it.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I just pulled it up in three seconds, you fuck.
Come on.
kevin pereira
Are you using Bing?
Bing it.
joe rogan
Just Mormon Planet Osmond Album.
kevin pereira
Dogpilot.
joe rogan
Look up Mormon Planet Osmond Album.
kevin pereira
Load Alta Vista.
joe rogan
And it's the first Google image.
It's called The Plan.
And if you look in the other Google images, there's one where it's got God's hand that's holding the planet.
kevin pereira
Aw, that's kind.
joe rogan
It's so bizarre.
kevin pereira
He has the whole world in his hands, Joe.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's so...
kevin pereira
Yeah, look at that shirt.
joe rogan
No, that's not it.
kevin pereira
I want to know who that guy is.
I like that he wore his Tommy Bahama shirt to hold light.
joe rogan
The Osmond Brothers, bro.
brian redban
Are you talking about this right here?
joe rogan
Mormon Planet Osmond album.
Yes, that's the album, the plan.
And if you look deep inside the album as you...
kevin pereira
Try album art?
joe rogan
Is there a Google image search?
Just do a Google image search.
kevin pereira
I can ask Siri.
joe rogan
How many things do you have?
Mormon Planet Osmond album.
What do you have?
brian redban
Mormon Planet Osmond Brothers plan.
The plan.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Get all that other stuff out.
kevin pereira
Come on now.
joe rogan
Yeah, there it is.
brian redban
The plan.
joe rogan
Come on now.
See, that's the god holding the hand.
There he is.
Holding the planet.
That's Kolob.
kevin pereira
He just got us gripped.
joe rogan
That's the planet where, I guess, god limbs or something.
It's such a shitty rhyme.
Such a shitty story.
It should be a rhyme.
It should be a Dr. Seuss rhyme.
kevin pereira
A kid who finds golden tablets.
unidentified
One bitch, two bitch.
joe rogan
You know, they came looking for the tablets.
Like, where are these tablets?
He said, angels came and took them away.
That was his answer.
kevin pereira
Yeah.
joe rogan
I thought, you shitbag, little fuck, bad story writing asshole.
kevin pereira
It's live journal quality writing.
It's not even.
joe rogan
Live journal's way better than that.
Back in 1820, you didn't have to show your sources.
kevin pereira
No, you'd have to cite anything.
joe rogan
And this fucking guy who wrote this stuff, this Joseph Smith character, it's a painfully bad story.
kevin pereira
It's tough that it plays a role at all in society and politics.
It's insane.
joe rogan
It's insane.
kevin pereira
That's the saddest part.
joe rogan
And I'm not saying, again, I'm not saying I have any answers.
I certainly don't have any answers.
But I am saying that as human beings...
Forget about religious freedom.
At a certain point in time, you have to have the ability to rationally express what the fuck is going on.
And when you take into consideration a guy's qualifications to be a leader, one of them has to be whether or not he's a gullible fuck.
It's really that simple.
kevin pereira
You have freedom of expression when it comes to religion, and that is fine and great, believe what you want, but when your religious beliefs influence policy, which affects my freedom, well, suddenly, I don't have religious freedom, because I don't believe in the crazy shit, or what I deem to be, you know, not crazy.
joe rogan
That's a very good point.
kevin pereira
And now your religion is informing my life.
It's determining what I can and can't do.
joe rogan
It's a very good point.
And it's also that religion, like in choosing to believe something, especially something as ridiculous as Mormonism, that in choosing to believe in it, it sort of defines you as a person, and I'm allowed to judge you in that sense if you're trying to run for a position of leadership.
I have to look at you as a potential leader.
There are a lot of people that I respect deeply in this world for their intellect, for their mind, but I've had some people that I even really deeply respect and they have these really big hiccups when it comes to religion.
And when that happens, that part of, I know, I can't have that conversation with you anymore because you've got a wall up.
You've got an illogical spot.
You've got like a little mind cancer in there where you can't...
You can't rationalize.
I remember having a conversation with a school teacher.
And he was a really smart guy.
He was an interesting guy.
And he said, someone said something about God and about how there is no other way.
I forget what it was.
And I said, so you've seen evidence of stuff that shows there's no other way that something could have existed except for a God?
And he goes, yes.
As a matter of fact, molecules...
Have been shown to be so complex, it would be impossible for us to even imagine that, let alone create them.
That alone has to be proof of a God.
And the guy was like, yes, yes, it must be.
And the woman was like, it has to be proof of a God.
I was like, that is the craziest thinking I've ever heard.
That means that a molecule to you is the proof of a God, not the The fucking universe?
The universe, which is composed of molecules, by the way, that are all touching each other.
And are all nothing.
They're all filled with air.
kevin pereira
A thousand years ago, we didn't know there were molecules.
So it's preposterous to go, well, this is too complex, we'll never solve this.
We didn't even know, you didn't have a usage for that word or a knowledge of what it was until science discovered, oh, there are these little things.
And clearly we have light years to go, but...
joe rogan
But this guy, this was what he was holding on to.
And I was like, you're a teacher.
I was like, this guy's a teacher.
He's a school teacher.
And he was a smart guy.
I was like, I go, come on, man.
There's no other way.
You know, I'm not saying there's no God, but your argument is that something is super complex, so only God could have created it.
I was like, you shut off.
You have a part of your head that doesn't work.
You don't use it.
kevin pereira
My mother, despite being presented mountains of evidence that I was putting in front of her eyes, really believed that John Edwards could talk to the dead.
Wanted to go on crossing over, really wanted to meet him, wanted to have him.
joe rogan
Not the presidential candidate.
kevin pereira
Not the presidential candidate, the TV personality who claimed that he could speak to dead people and scammed Countless thousands of people out of their money by saying he would do cold readings, basically.
I'm getting something with a J. And he would do that.
And I showed her the technique.
There were books on it.
I showed where he was trained.
All that stuff.
Despite that, she refused.
She had that wall.
She wanted to believe because she needed to believe.
And at some point, if she were president, that may inform her decisions.
She might believe that those people exist.
She might go to them for foreign policy advice.
Like, Lord knows how that would influence things.
joe rogan
Yes, for sure.
If you're a gullible person, you should not be in a position...
kevin pereira
I want to keep talking.
Can I flag on the plate and empty my bladder?
joe rogan
Yeah, go piss, man.
Thank you.
See, me, ladies and gentlemen, I can drink coffee.
Right down, open this door.
It's the last door on your left.
Me, I drink coffee.
I can handle it.
I can keep it together.
You know, my broadcast partner in the UFC... I'm feeling sexy now.
Thank you.
I feel way better.
My broadcast partner in the UFC, Mike Wahlberg, who I love to death, has the smallest bladder of any human being on the planet.
It's so bad that we count, me and the sound guys, we have a running count, and sometimes we'll have a pool.
I'll say it'll be over five or over six.
He will get up six times during the broadcast to pee.
I mean, literally, he'll get up, he'll pee, and then he'll run out and he'll pee again.
It's crazy!
brian redban
I have a video of him in Vegas.
joe rogan
Getting up and peeing?
brian redban
No, getting mad.
When I said, why do you pee so much?
And then he's like, you tell Rogan!
joe rogan
He gets mad that I bring it up because I was playing a drinking game for a while.
I stopped playing the drinking game because I didn't want people to torture him, but the drinking game was every time he would go get up, I would be the guy who was introducing the fighters as they would walk through.
It's usually the way it sets up is Mike Goldberg will introduce a fighter, and as the guy's walking into the octagon, it's a couple minutes, so Mike will say the guy's name, he'll maybe say some pertinent facts about the guy, And I will address his strengths as an athlete.
I will address his style and what recently he's coming off of and what I think he needs to do here tonight.
And so that people have something to think about when the guy steps into the octagon.
They don't just know the guy's name.
They also know a little bit about the guy.
But when you only hear me talking and I'm like, you know, Alan the talent belcher.
Alan's fighting out of Duke Rufus.
If it's just me talking, that means Goldberg's pissing.
And I was saying...
Are you throwing crickets in there?
Are you saying this is boring?
brian redban
No, no, that's like only you are talking and Mike's gone.
joe rogan
I don't think it works that way, man.
That's not the use of crickets.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a roaring arena.
There's no crickets.
Why is he leaving?
He's leaving and there's a cricket all of a sudden.
It's illogical, son.
So he runs off.
And I say, if you're playing the UFC drinking game, time to take a drink, ladies and gentlemen.
And that just, you know, I think that tortured him.
I think too many people went after him.
brian redban
By the way, you're in North Carolina this weekend.
There's tickets still available.
So go to where?
JoeRogan.net?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can go to JoeRogan.net.
And all the information is also available on my Twitter.
If you go to my Twitter page...
It's just twitter.com forward slash Joe Rogan.
I'm in Raleigh on Friday night at the Memorial Hall, and then I'm in Asheville on Saturday night at Thomas Wolfe.
I've been to Raleigh.
I love Raleigh.
I gotta holler at my boy Cliffy B! Cliffy B from Epic Games!
Cliffy lives in Raleigh, that fucking savage.
brian redban
Is he coming to the show?
joe rogan
I gotta contact him.
kevin pereira
Is he guesting a show of yours?
joe rogan
No, I'm guesting.
kevin pereira
Yeah, like coming on to do a thing, like a live podcast.
joe rogan
No, I don't do live podcasts.
I think live podcasts are a rip-off.
I'm sorry for all those people out there that are doing live podcasts, that are making money doing it, but you're charging money for people to sit down and watch something that's not as entertaining as stand-up comedy in a comedy club.
That's how I feel about it.
kevin pereira
I respect that.
I disagree with it.
joe rogan
What do you say it is?
kevin pereira
I think that it's a live performance.
Like when I did Lead Up, we made sure to make it interactive and to get people on stage and make them part of it so it gives them an experience that they can't have.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
You had a whole festival about it.
Let me just explain something from a point of view of a stand-up comedian.
When I'm on stage and it's a packed crowd and there's 300 people, I know what's the best thing I can do.
The best thing I can do is not sit down and have a conversation.
The best thing I can do is stand up.
And if there was a crowd here while we were doing this, if there was 300 people watching this, I would not be able to have the same sort of conversational tone.
I would be hyper aware that all these people are watching and how fucking boring this is to a group of 300 people.
kevin pereira
Joe, that's your pang up.
Don't project that onto me.
How dare you?
unidentified
Whoa, man.
joe rogan
You just got fucking heavy with me, man!
kevin pereira
Can I just say, it's a whole new fucking world.
I was trying to actively listen for the last 20 minutes, and I couldn't, and I couldn't figure out why, and it's because I had to piss so bad.
There's a study that says that if you are driving with an intense need to urinate, it's about as bad as driving drunk.
Your ability to focus and your reaction times are so impaired because your body is empty your fucking bladder.
joe rogan
Oh, I believe that.
kevin pereira
And I was going through that, and I didn't realize it, so I apologize.
Dude, you were doing great.
unidentified
It's a new day.
joe rogan
You handled it like a champ.
kevin pereira
I was powering through, man.
It was getting bad.
joe rogan
See, that's why they invented commercials, because old dudes want to piss a lot.
kevin pereira
It's also why they invented adult diapers.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Brian used those once.
kevin pereira
Well, people in Times Square used them for New Year's Eve.
Yeah, I was there for New Years and I was not interested in watching the ball drop, but everybody that was talking about it was like, get there at 6 or 8 a.m.
because you won't get near enough to see anything or experience anything and you're gonna have to stand there all day.
And I was like, well, what do you do if you gotta go to the bathroom?
I'm like, oh, you have to wear diapers.
Everybody does.
Which has now changed my vision of any imagery in Times Square because the people that are up front near the ball drop, they've been waiting since 8 a.m.
and they have shit and piss in their drawers.
brian redban
Yeah, and it doesn't help the smell.
My problem was that it smelled like shit everywhere I was there.
kevin pereira
Now you know why, sir.
It smells like Depends and Werther's Originals.
joe rogan
No, no, no, not Times Square.
kevin pereira
I mean, throughout the city?
joe rogan
No, when he shit his pants, it smelled like shit.
unidentified
I used Depends.
joe rogan
He was at a grocery store and he shit his pants.
brian redban
Target.
kevin pereira
Oh, there you go.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't do that.
kevin pereira
But isn't that weird?
Like, next time you see the people celebrating in the streets at Times Square, just know that a good percentage of them have a load in their drawers and they're bringing in the New Year.
joe rogan
Is that...
That is so ridiculous.
Isn't that crazy?
Is that something that is commonly known?
kevin pereira
I didn't know until I went there.
joe rogan
Is there a forum where they meet and they say, what kind of depends do you use?
Do you duct tape it in for smell protection?
kevin pereira
They're like Disneyland pin traders talking about strategies.
joe rogan
What do you do if you pick up a hot girl and you make out at midnight?
You just meet and then at the stroke you start making out and you're both wearing diapers.
kevin pereira
You gotta do a diaper swap.
Yeah.
We have to start 69, pull hers off, she pulls yours off, and then you bring it around, and so that way you're wearing her shit.
joe rogan
Son of a bitch.
kevin pereira
It's like back and forth forever, man.
It's the sexiest thing ever.
Is that a hot dog from 5th Street in there?
Oh, someone ate hot peanuts!
joe rogan
Meanwhile, someone would be into that.
For someone that would be super sexy.
kevin pereira
Oh, there's a definite community for that.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
There's a lot of people that want to eat some shit.
kevin pereira
Johnny Balls 17 is doing it right now on a free cam show.
joe rogan
Johnny Balls 7. Yeah, if you can find people that want to get fucked by horses, you can find people that want to play with shit.
kevin pereira
That video, when you hear the point where the horse is caught, you hear that groaning.
You're like, oh, that's the last sound you're going to be making for the rest of your life.
That is it.
I want that to be my new text alert.
I want to hear that whenever someone texts me.
joe rogan
I wonder what the numbers are of people that have been fucked to death by big animals like horses and shit.
Because it's not just that one guy.
brian redban
Not enough.
joe rogan
Not enough?
I was in traffic for an hour today.
More people need to get fucked to death.
Yeah, what are the numbers?
Can we Google that?
Throughout history, I would think more than a thousand.
How many people do you think of Big Joe?
kevin pereira
Are the numbers decreasing or are they increasing?
joe rogan
I think everything's increasing because the population's increasing.
kevin pereira
Sure, but also there wasn't Twitter back then, so what else are we going to do?
You've got to get fucked by a horse.
joe rogan
How many people are influenced by the ability to put video of them getting fucked by an animal online?
kevin pereira
Well, I know that...
joe rogan
It makes them pull the trigger.
kevin pereira
The front-facing camera on this thing has me doing more than walking my neighbor's dog, absolutely.
joe rogan
There was a conversation that we had yesterday about convincing people to do things that in the FBI, in trapping people, is causing more crime.
brian redban
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Just in order to be able to solve it.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And that's another sign of sickness in this crazy world that you can actually talk somebody into doing something fucked up.
kevin pereira
It's an endemic thing because of the bottom line.
They have to justify their jobs and show that they're preventing terrorism.
And the only way to do that in a lot of these cases is to go out and entrap people and create scenarios that they can jump on board with.
joe rogan
And the people that are doing it are people that are awesome at going undercover and pretending to be someone else.
So they're getting a rush out of that, too, by the way.
A rush out of pulling it off.
kevin pereira
Yeah, well, sometimes...
joe rogan
And those are the type of charismatic people that can talk you into doing things you wouldn't have ordered to never be done.
unidentified
Right, right.
kevin pereira
Well, sometimes that's the case.
Sometimes they're taking ex-cons and they're taking people that would normally be, you know, stoolies and empowering them and saying, you go do all the illegal shit you want to do and we'll back you with the badge.
joe rogan
Dude, we talked about all this yesterday, unfortunately.
We went over it with my friend Tate.
We talked about Whitey Bulger and all the different, you know, the guy who was working for the FBI was the head of the Boston mob.
kevin pereira
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a mess.
The system is fucking completely ridiculous when it comes to that.
kevin pereira
So do you think the feds are running stings or they're encouraging people to fuck horses or get fucked by horses?
joe rogan
I was saying, it could be.
That is possible.
I think someone can talk...
I have a joke.
kevin pereira
Like, where do they recruit at?
Pettings?
joe rogan
I had a joke in my last special about Mormons, that Mormons are afraid of gay marriage.
And if anybody should be afraid of gay marriage, that it's Mormons.
Because if someone could talk you into being a Mormon...
They could probably talk you into sucking their dick.
And it really is true.
You should be scared.
You should be scared.
Someone can talk you into something completely ridiculous.
Someone can talk people into...
There's a lot of people out there that are super persuasive.
And they can talk people into doing a lot of things.
And so when someone does something and they do it with the aid of someone who happens to be an agent...
I used to think that that was bullshit.
That person's a criminal.
unidentified
If someone came along to me and told me to blow up the Capitol building, I wouldn't do it.
kevin pereira
I'm not going to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I'm not an idiot.
There's some people out there that are idiots, and it's not fair that someone can come along and convince this idiot that he is going to defend Islam by giving them a bomb.
Like the guy in Dallas where the cops are providing them with a fake bomb.
He pressed the button and then they moved in on him and arrested him.
unidentified
They gave him a fake bomb.
kevin pereira
They gave him the bomb.
They gave him cab fare.
They gave him everything he needed to do it.
And by the way, there are people listening to this right now that are wearing multiple Q-Ray balance bracelets because they believe it gives them the power to lift cars and balance better.
joe rogan
Talk to pro athletes that believe that.
kevin pereira
Do they really believe it or do they know that they're shilling?
joe rogan
Dude, I had a guy who tried to do that to me.
I guess it's power of placebo, right?
kevin pereira
It's just power of placebo.
joe rogan
This guy tried to do that to me.
kevin pereira
That too.
joe rogan
This guy who was a salesman.
Mike Goldberg was telling me how great they were.
He was wearing one.
This guy was like, you gotta wear this.
This guy is just gonna show you.
So he brings this guy over.
And this guy tries some fucking carny tricks on me.
kevin pereira
Where he pushes down on your hands behind you.
You clasp your hands.
I'm going to push down on them.
Look, you tilt it over.
joe rogan
I go, what are you doing?
I go, what are you doing?
I go, you're not doing it the same way.
I go, your angle is different.
I go, stand right here.
I go, now do it.
I go, yeah, man, what are you doing?
And then I looked at the other guy.
I go, what are you guys doing?
You're playing little carny tricks.
I go, if you want to do something, I go, let's do it exactly the same way.
I go, pull my arm down now.
And he couldn't pull my arm down.
I go, come on, pull my arm down now.
kevin pereira
Hold on, I've got to put on another bracelet.
joe rogan
Yeah, I go, now I try to do it.
I go, are you crazy?
Who bought this?
I'm like, how is anybody buying this?
kevin pereira
Millions of people bought it.
joe rogan
I'm like, you're moving around and showing me different angles.
I do jujitsu.
I understand how there's leverage.
You're changing the leverage points.
kevin pereira
Some people didn't even get that, though.
Some people got convinced by an infomercial at 2am.
joe rogan
Dude, some people, fuck that.
Some people got convinced by this guy.
I was watching people agree with him.
Like, yeah, I do have more balance.
And I threw a fucking wet diaper into the party.
I was like, what the fuck?
What the fuck are you talking about?
kevin pereira
Man, he was going to get the company bonus trip to Cabo and you ruined his numbers.
joe rogan
This guy grabbed my hand and pinned it to my body and was playing mercy with me and lifting my...
Now try to resist.
I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
This is some silly shit.
If you wanted to prove that it would give you better strength, you would make me lift weights.
You would say, lift weights now that you have this...
Well, don't you feel stronger?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
Come on, you silly bitch.
kevin pereira
So, if people can be talked into that shit, people can be talked into anything.
brian redban
It's just an excuse to wear jewelry, I think.
joe rogan
It is.
kevin pereira
It's really not as fashionable as a crock.
joe rogan
I still see people.
kevin pereira
I see it all the time.
joe rogan
But what it is, is a psychological tool.
There's something that...
kevin pereira
It's a placebo.
joe rogan
Yes, but in that respect, for some reason, it seems to work.
You know, with athletes even, there was a measurable difference, even in people that thought that it was a placebo, even in people that went in with a preconceived notion that it was a placebo, knowing that they were probably right, still had a benefit of it because they were trying to convince themselves that it worked.
kevin pereira
Did we talk about the blood pressure placebo trial the last time I was here?
joe rogan
No.
kevin pereira
It's worth Googling.
I'll give you the fuzzy cliff notes of it.
But basically they did a study where they gave people a placebo and told them that it was a real pill that was going to lower their heart rate and their blood pressure and work miracles for them.
Then they gave another group the same pill.
It was a sugar water pill.
And they said, this is a placebo.
This pill does nothing.
But we're doing this study to see if it will lower your blood pressure.
It did.
It did lower it in the people that were told it was a placebo.
And when the trial ended, they said, okay, that's it.
Thank you.
The people revolted.
And they said, what are you doing?
My blood pressure is going to go back up.
I need this pill.
And they're like, no, no, no, no, no.
It's a placebo.
It does nothing.
The pill does nothing.
And they had to start manufacturing placebo pills for this trial group.
joe rogan
This is the same story.
You're giving me a detailed description.
It's the exact same story.
I simplified it.
But you made it much more clear.
There's something weird with our brains.
There's something weird with our brains when we believe things.
Because I think that reality is more malleable than we think it is.
We've shown that there's a certain amount of effect positive energy and mood can have on people, and there's a certain amount of effect true belief in something can have on your environment.
There's something weird going on with the mind that it's not quite as simple as we like to think it is.
It's not 1 plus 1 equals 2. It's 1 plus 1 equals 2, but if you believe in magic, it might equal 5. Right.
kevin pereira
You can have a magic variable in your equation that can change the outcome of the algorithm.
joe rogan
Belief in yourself is a strange thing.
Belief in things is a strange thing.
kevin pereira
That's why I tell people, don't believe in yourself.
Stop it.
Don't believe in anything or anyone, and you'll be free.
joe rogan
But no, because if you believe in things, it can empower you.
That's what's really fucked up.
kevin pereira
Positive energy begets...
Where does positive...
joe rogan
It's not as simple as positive energy, though.
It's not like that's sort of some hippie ideology.
kevin pereira
What's the difference of thinking positive?
joe rogan
It's not just thinking positive.
It's thinking specifically about certain results and thinking positive and moving in that direction.
kevin pereira
Certainly, you can't just sit there and wish.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I'm saying that there's some sort of a magical combination that when used is greater than the sum of its parts, There's something to the human mind that affects reality in a way that I don't think we've totally measured yet.
kevin pereira
There have been studies that show that people that undergo surgery, where there's a certain rehab time, if they believe in the power of prayer, they tend to heal quicker and fuller, faster.
So there is clearly, there's some quantifiable evidence.
joe rogan
So you should believe in something.
You know, even believing in something that's bullshit, like if it empowers you, there's something weird about that.
kevin pereira
You should be wearing a Q-ray balance bracelet.
joe rogan
Fucking rubber bracelets for some weird people.
It's what they needed.
It's that trigger that they needed to fire up that certain part of their brain that gives you the green light to expect certain results.
kevin pereira
They needed a totem.
Like, I can't believe that just the power of thought will be enough to compel me into a positive, or propel me into a positive direction.
But you give me a rubber trinket that I can now attach that positivity to, and I go, I believe that, because that's a thing.
That has an alloy in it.
joe rogan
It has an earth crystal.
It's something where the mind gets the green light.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, what...
When I was a kid, when I was competing in Taekwondo, when I was 19 years old, I went to watch the World Cup.
I had a run from the time when I was 17 until I was 21. I won the Massachusetts State Championship every year.
And then one year I won the U.S. Open.
I came in second in the U.S. Cup.
I was like really highly ranked nationally.
And that year was the year that I went to watch the World Cup.
Because I went to Colorado Springs and I saw the best fighters in the world.
And I came back from just watching it.
And all of a sudden I was like a year better.
It was like I had made this huge leap.
And I had a friend of mine, his name was Jung-Sik, Jung-Sik Chang.
This kid was a fucking maniac.
This guy was a student.
He was a medical student.
He was going through his internship and training to be on the U.S. Olympic Taekwondo team at the same time.
He was a fucking savage.
Just the most hardest working kid I've ever met in my life.
Guy slept three hours every night, trained like a fucking madman.
But we were talking about it.
He goes, what happened?
He goes, how did you get so good?
What happened?
And I'm like, I don't know.
I went to this one place and I hit this new level.
It's like I was like this really good local guy.
And then I went and I watched the World Championships, the World Cup rather.
And then all of a sudden, I was like world class.
It happened like overnight.
It happened so quick.
I realized what was possible.
I saw those guys move and I went, oh, you can move faster.
You could do this more.
You could do that more.
But just by having a new model in my mind...
My physical body caught up to that model almost instantly.
I had already had the physical capability, but I hadn't seen it yet, so I didn't know what was possible until it was shown to me.
kevin pereira
Yeah, you had a barrier based off your body, and then you saw that bar can be raised.
You went, oh, okay, I'll just go up there now.
joe rogan
Well, I also saw that those guys would fuck me up.
When you watch things objectively, if you're a competitor, The most important part of getting better is you gotta know how bad you are right now.
You gotta know what you suck at.
You gotta know where your holes are.
You gotta know what mistakes you make.
And if you don't see that, the enemy can see that.
I can see that in other people immediately.
And I'm like, man, if I can't see that in myself, that's a fucking horrible, horrible handicap.
So you look at these guys, and I went and watched these guys.
I remember going, this guy would fuck me up.
This guy would fuck me up.
That guy would knock me out.
I was like, this guy wouldn't want to fight with him.
I was like, shit!
And I just realized that there is a whole...
So all of a sudden, I was doing things that I could never do before.
I remember thinking, what was holding me back?
Was it just that I hadn't seen it?
And then I remember the thing about the four-minute mile.
Nobody thought a human being could ever run faster than a four-minute mile.
It just wasn't beyond our capabilities.
Then one guy did it, and then all of a sudden, a gang of people did it immediately.
It's like all of a sudden, these new levels get set, and new barriers get broken.
There's something to it that's not just physical.
There's something to it.
Where the belief and when the mind has new information, it changes the reality.
kevin pereira
So where do you draw the line in?
If you can say, alright, someone who has this belief or someone who has these thoughts that empowers them and it's positive for them, when do you go, well, but your belief is wrong.
The one that you have that empowers you and propels you in positive directions that you give credit to for the positivity in your life, when do you go, okay, well, that's wrong, though, because I can prove that it doesn't exist or because I can prove that it was made up by somebody?
At what point, then, do you have the right to say that?
joe rogan
You don't.
Well, a lot of people, look, you know, whether it's the flying spaghetti monster or whether it's, you know, the president of the planet column.
There's something that is empowering about having belief.
And I've seen people, one of the things I was scared of when I was a kid when I was competing, I was scared of competing against religious guys.
Because I felt like they believed something more than I did.
kevin pereira
They have God in their corner.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was filled with doubt about, you know, I was an idiot, first of all.
And I was filled with doubt about, you know, what would happen when I die, my mortality, whether I'm a good person or not.
And I would meet people that were like, when I would see guys like reading the Bible before they would fight, it would scare the shit out of me.
There was like one thing that really, there was a guy named Clayton, I think his name was Clayton Barber.
He was one of the top level guys in my division and he was an army guy and he was super religious.
He was like super, and he scared the shit out of me.
I was terrified of him.
He wasn't even the most dangerous guy.
He was just, to me, he was scary because...
He was too religious.
It was just too creepy.
kevin pereira
A lot of people say that religion is what compels them to do great things.
Or horrible things.
Religion is also strong enough to have them fly planes into buildings.
unidentified
Exactly.
kevin pereira
So if a book and a philosophy can make somebody do that, Lord knows what it can make them do to you in the ring.
unidentified
When you say fly planes into buildings, you're completely discounting what we have.
The documents that show remote control planes are the only way you can get a plane to make those kind of turns.
joe rogan
There's too much in for me.
kevin pereira
How much corruption do you believe there is in 9-11?
joe rogan
I don't know.
But all I know is what is from the past.
kevin pereira
Oh, was that a Pandora's box?
joe rogan
Yeah, he wants to talk about farts.
That's what it means.
Hey, good fart story.
kevin pereira
We can talk about Olive Garden.
joe rogan
There's corruption in government, no question about it.
All you need to know is there's no reason to ever tell you the exact story.
So any story that happens, whether it's the way we killed Osama bin Laden, which, by the way, we've already had a difference in the story from one of the actual SEALs who was on site who killed Osama bin Laden.
There's a difference between his story and the official story that the government has put out.
brian redban
Did you read his book?
joe rogan
No, I didn't.
Now, when you go back into the past and look at The Pat Tillman story, and you realize that they lied about what happened to the American hero and football star Pat Tillman, who was killed by friendly fire, who they think may have been actually murdered because he was complaining too much about the war.
He was a real patriot who went over there because he thought he was going to defend us against the terrorists.
And when he got there, he realized it was a massive clusterfuck and was talking about it quite openly.
And then he gets shagged by...
Shagged?
No.
Shanked?
brian redban
Fragged.
Yeah, buddy.
joe rogan
Frag's the word.
He gets killed.
And they make a total lie.
unidentified
Completely lie about what happened.
joe rogan
Jessica Lynch.
There's another story.
Jessica Lynch, who's a woman that they said they had to take out an armed insertion to remove her from...
She was rescued by high-level guys when she was being kidnapped.
She wasn't being kidnapped.
She was in a hospital being treated.
The whole...
They lie.
They just lie.
And I don't think it's...
I'm not blaming soldiers.
I'm blaming the very people at the top of the command who are doing this, who have always been doing it like this.
They did it since Operation Dirty Trick.
You know, when John Glenn first went into space, if John Glenn died, they were going to blame it on the Cubans.
They were going to concoct evidence.
This has all been proven.
They were going to concoct evidence.
They were going to blame it on the Cubans.
And they were going to go, well, look, we've got a win-win situation here.
Send this fucking guy into orbit.
If he blows up, we just go fuck up Cuba.
And everybody's happy.
kevin pereira
It's called a catalyst.
joe rogan
It's called the way people who have ultimate control run business.
You know, this country has always been run by that.
So when something like 9-1-1 happens and...
You look at all the potential fuckery that could have taken place from the fact that people were gambling and betting on airlines failing right before it happened.
That there was a massive amount of money that was moved around.
kevin pereira
Insurance policies taken out for buildings in the area.
The fact that evidence was destroyed minutes after the event.
joe rogan
This seems to indicate that there's a lot of room for potential fuckery.
And if you add that to what we know has happened in the past, I throw my hands up and I go, I don't know.
I don't really know what happened, but I am not willing to ever stop and say that the government is on this occasion...
It's telling 100% of the truth.
Even though they haven't done it in the past, and even though they've been lying about the Iran-Contra scandal, and even though they lied about virtually every fucking thing that has ever happened overseas, whether it's, you know, fucking Gulf of Tonkin, whether it's the reason why they pulled all their battleships out of World War II, out of Pearl Harbor before it happened.
kevin pereira
We knew Pearl Harbor was happening.
They let it happen.
They received notice.
We needed a catalyst to get us involved in that war.
joe rogan
I told that to G. Gordon Liddy.
I said, you know, they were saying that on the History Channel.
I had G. Gordon Liddy was on Fear Factor.
Yeah.
He almost won.
He just can't see at night.
His fucking vision sucks.
Yeah.
So he crashed his car.
kevin pereira
Did he have to eat weird shit or anything?
joe rogan
And who's the guy who won?
He was like a fucking...
He was like a really big star in the 70s.
And then he became a drug addict.
He was like a...
God.
I can't remember his fucking name.
kevin pereira
Shit.
joe rogan
It's like a weird, obscure guy, some singer guy.
kevin pereira
Alright.
joe rogan
I want to say Jared Leto, but it's not him.
kevin pereira
He is not obscure.
His music is powerful.
joe rogan
Amazing.
kevin pereira
His music moves mountains, you asshole.
joe rogan
But he's like that kind of a guy.
But, gee, Gordon Liddy, you know, I had a conversation with him about it.
He's like, oh, I don't believe that's true.
I'm like, hmm, that's what they're saying on the History Channel.
kevin pereira
That's what history is saying.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like they're saying that they decoded Japanese.
That's one of the reasons why they left certain ships and they took out some of the big battleships.
They allowed that to happen so that we could have an excuse to get into World War II. Right.
Which ultimately, I guess, is probably a good thing.
It would suck if the Nazis actually did win.
Is that possible that we can have a fucking Star Wars type situation where the Nazis get into a position where they can have a fucking Death Star?
kevin pereira
We're building our way towards it.
We're going to build the Death Star.
We've already got flying drones.
We already got the drones.
We're getting there, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, they didn't even think of that in Star Wars.
They didn't think there'd be 30,000 drones in the air.
kevin pereira
Yeah, why would you need people in these TIE Fighters and X-Wings?
joe rogan
Star Wars didn't even have Google.
kevin pereira
Use the remote.
joe rogan
They didn't even have Google in Star Wars.
kevin pereira
They had the Force.
They didn't need it, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
kevin pereira
They had the Force.
Pretty sweet.
joe rogan
By the way, bro, you got the Force, too.
The Force is what we were talking about.
kevin pereira
Yeah.
joe rogan
The Force is the belief and the ability to accomplish things.
kevin pereira
It's funny, on the power of positive thought, I used to be one of those guys that was, and it wasn't something I was consciously doing, but in my youth, I would be jealous of people that had success, or sometimes be angry that someone did something creative, as opposed to appreciating that, and supporting them, and being genuinely excited for them.
And I had to, Root that out of myself and examine that and go, where is this coming from?
And you know, seeds of insecurity and all sorts of stuff.
And once I was able to look at it for what it was, that sunlight disinfected it, and now being genuinely excited for people that are doing awesome things and being positive about that has fundamentally changed my life.
joe rogan
Yes.
kevin pereira
And I've seen that in only the last few years, so fully subscribe to that.
joe rogan
I have talked about that on this podcast many, many, many, many times.
The difference between the way I looked at things as a young man who hadn't really accomplished much or was really insecure to the way I handle things now.
And somewhere along the line, I sort of figured it out.
Somewhere in my 20s.
I figured out that it was just a weakness.
But I'm really self-critical, so I had pointed that out.
And so I would see that in other people where they would be hating on other folks, and I'd be like, man, you're fucking yourself.
You don't even realize you're fucking yourself.
We should all be elevating ourselves, all of us.
And that sort of became the idea of...
What we do with this whole crew of us that we call the Death Squad.
I mean, that's really what it is.
It's like we all support each other and we all, like, get psyched for each other.
There's no one, like, Ari Shaffir right now is number one on iTunes, bitches.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
Yeah, we talked about it yesterday on the podcast, and boom, his new CD is number one.
And it's fucking hilarious.
Ari's worked very hard, and we started taking him on the road when he was...
Basically, he was an employee at the Comedy Store, and he was just starting to do real 15- and 20-minute sets many, many, many years ago.
So to see him now headlining major clubs and having the number one CD on iTunes, it's fucking amazing.
But that pumps us all up, you know?
And number two is Tommy Segura, who's also our buddy.
What is his?
White Girls with Cornrows?
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, which is hilarious.
Tommy Segura is one of the best fucking comics in the country right now.
He's so underrated.
He is fucking hilarious.
kevin pereira
I'm not familiar with him.
I'll have to check it out.
joe rogan
Oh my god, he's funny.
And he's a great guy.
And his shit is number two.
And then Joey Diaz is like number three or number four.
And Joey's been number one for months.
It's incredible.
But it benefits all of us.
It pumps us all up.
kevin pereira
Starting a podcast here next week.
You fucking are!
unidentified
Can I do it?
kevin pereira
How do we do it?
brian redban
Do it right here!
kevin pereira
I need a logo into Photoshop.
Done.
joe rogan
All we need is Kevin Pereira gets shit done.
kevin pereira
Let's do it next week.
joe rogan
Yes!
See?
Yes!
I love this.
brian redban
Good.
joe rogan
Excellent.
kevin pereira
Fist to the man.
joe rogan
We will now work together.
brian redban
The nighttime is the right time.
joe rogan
Kevin Pereira, you are officially Death Squad now.
kevin pereira
I love it.
joe rogan
Is there a cat t-shirt?
brian redban
You've got to hug Brian.
joe rogan
It's uncomfortable after the first 30 minutes.
Hold him for one hour.
kevin pereira
Does he go through stages of emotion?
He'll cry for a little bit, then he'll get aroused, then he'll get angry.
joe rogan
He'll start telling stories of his youth that you think are made up.
Yeah, you have to do it.
It's very hard for people who don't have things going on in their life to be happy for people who do.
You've got to use that shit as inspiration, man.
When you see someone win an Emmy and you're like, I need to write a script!
Get up and write that fucking script.
Don't hate on the guy who created Sex and the City or the woman who created...
I don't know why I said Sex and the City.
What am I living in the fucking...
I just went back in time.
kevin pereira
Because it's a phenomenal series.
joe rogan
Don't hate on Louis C.K. for just winning two Emmys.
kevin pereira
I love that.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's awesome.
kevin pereira
I love the shot of him in the crowd with the two Emmys at his feet and he's just tweeting.
I don't know if you've seen that.
It's almost like he could care less, but you know he loves it.
He's beautiful.
joe rogan
Well, you know, he's the real deal and he's a hard-working guy.
Brilliant.
You should be excited about that.
You should see that guy and you shouldn't say, man, he's got this going on and I can't even get a middle spot.
You just got to work, man.
It's just got to work.
kevin pereira
But you'll find it gets a lot easier to do that work and you find a lot more support when you're not pissed at people and jealous for their success.
joe rogan
It makes you way better.
And it's easier to be creative.
One of the hardest parts of being creative is if you're in tension with someone.
Or you have issues or you're jealous or you have any sort of negativity.
It's very difficult to be creative with any sort of negativity in your life because that becomes the blaring focus instead of letting the mind relax and go into these weird sort of patterns of thoughts that create creativity, especially comedic creativity.
kevin pereira
I was going to say, you can create great music because you're pissed at an ex-girlfriend or you have a heroin problem, but it's really hard to make comedy.
joe rogan
How many great songs have been written by dudes who are just trying to get a girl back?
Probably a lot, right?
kevin pereira
Countless.
joe rogan
It's so sad.
kevin pereira
Countless.
I also love that drugs have shaped the design and sound of music throughout time.
There's been studies that show that cocaine makes you more sensitive to higher frequencies, and that's why a lot of the music from the 80s had the treble blasted way up, because dudes were just blown out on coke at the mixing board, going, yeah, give me that cymbal!
Give me that guitar scream!
Got it, man!
joe rogan
Got it, man!
kevin pereira
I just finished The Dirt.
The Motley Crue Tales.
Have you read that?
It's brilliant.
joe rogan
Really?
kevin pereira
Brilliant!
Neil Strauss wrote it.
I mean, it's very well written, and it tells you the perspective.
I'm not even a Motley Crue fan.
I barely know their music.
But the stories in here seem unbelievable, but as you flip the page, you get the same tale, but from another band member's perspective.
And so, by the third chapter, you've got real perspective on incidents that happened of, like, girls being stuffed into litter boxes and guys ODing in the back of cars.
Oh, yeah.
Like, crazy shit.
Blowjobs in private jets while people are overdosing.
Like, it's as rock and roll as rock and roll gets.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
brian redban
That's the program, by the way, you were talking about earlier that stitches everything in it together.
kevin pereira
Oh, that's another one, because that is definitely not the name of it, but that's awesome.
joe rogan
VYClone, it's called.
Does it work on all platforms?
brian redban
It's an Apple store.
joe rogan
Look at that fake iPhone that shows it.
brian redban
See, these are a bunch of people.
All their videos are connecting.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
kevin pereira
How great is that?
joe rogan
That's amazing.
But that song sucks a bag of dicks.
kevin pereira
What are you talking about, man?
joe rogan
Kill that song.
That was dope.
kevin pereira
Was that Buena Vista Social Club?
joe rogan
I love that.
Speaking of songs, everybody keeps asking, when is this fucking end of the world party?
Tickets going on sale.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
They're going on sale this Friday, and it'll be...
Honey Honey, Joe Diaz, Doug Stanhope, and myself.
December 21st, 2012 at the Wiltern Theater in LA. Come celebrate the end of the world, bitches.
We're going down swinging.
We're going down with mushrooms and whiskey.
That's what we're going to do.
kevin pereira
Are you going to throw them out to the crowd?
joe rogan
Confusing messages.
Look, this is the big date that all these crazy people and Terrence McKenna have been predicting of some real change.
And I don't believe that anything real is going to happen unless maybe we make something real happen.
kevin pereira
Maybe you are the one, Neil.
Maybe you're the reason.
unidentified
You've got the touch.
joe rogan
Dude, shut up.
I think what is going to happen, though, is we're going to have a good fucking time.
And Stan Hope and I have been talking about...
Yeah, December 21st.
That's the end of the Mayan calendar.
That's the day.
The end of the long count.
kevin pereira
I'm not going to see 30. You will.
joe rogan
It's not going to end.
kevin pereira
It's all going to end.
joe rogan
No, I don't buy it.
I think we're going to pull it out.
You know what I think?
I think there's a battle right now between idiocy and technology.
And I firmly believe that things improve.
And without any source of...
If we can avoid nuclear war and cataclysmic impacts by, you know...
kevin pereira
Asteroids and...
joe rogan
Supervolcanoes.
Shit along those lines.
Right.
But we also have to accept the fact that the more data comes in, the more we realize there are certain parts of the planet that are habitable and then become inhabitable.
And we have to fucking accept that.
And we need to start thinking about that here in Southern California.
When it gets 110 fucking 30, 40, 50 days in a row, at a certain point in time, you got to go, what if it gets to 130?
What if it gets to 150?
kevin pereira
Right.
joe rogan
What are we doing?
Are we going to stay here and wear suits everywhere we go so that we stay alive?
kevin pereira
The gray alien sleeve.
We'll have to be buying those from Apple.
joe rogan
What are we going to do if this is the precursor to an Ice Age?
And what if the shift comes in dramatic form like they believe it has all throughout history?
The end of the last Ice Age abruptly happened, including massive extinction events like the Woolly mammoth, saber-toothed tiger, all sorts of animals just disappeared off the face of the earth.
And we got to accept the fact that that shit could happen here.
Just because we have a database of a couple of thousand years of civilization and all living in the same continents, we also have a fucking map of Greenland that they don't really understand where these people, excuse me, not Greenland, Antarctica.
There's a map of Antarctica that came from the 1500s That is a very detailed map of the perimeter and it's correct and they don't know who the fuck charted this thing because Antarctica has been frozen for God knows how long and the suspicion is that at some point in time Antarctica was actually inhabitable.
And there's all these sites that say there's pyramids on Antarctica that they're discovering, but I don't buy that.
That seems like fuckery.
It seems like some horseshit.
kevin pereira
Little Yeti homes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But I'm not, I'm completely convinced that in the course of human history, the hundreds of thousands of years that have been things that are remotely close to what we look like, We've had to flee.
North America was covered in ice.
A mile-high sheet of ice.
The Great Lakes were created by all this.
Giant boulders were moved.
This huge slab of ice comes down.
It's a mile high, and it pushes slowly across the land, literally erasing everything in its sight.
You've got to get the fuck out of there.
And that easily could happen to us again.
kevin pereira
It's interesting to think, like, if there were another catastrophic environmental event that wiped us out, if thousands of years go on and another human civilization is spawned and birthed, like, what relics they would find, because they might not ever know that we developed the internet, that we had iPhones, that we had anything else.
They would get, you know, guns, maybe, maybe a clay pot or two, but they wouldn't really have a knowledge of our civilization because of the way we're storing it.
joe rogan
What the fuck?
Yeah, they would be fucked.
Well, that's exactly what they believe happened to the people that built Baalbek in Lebanon, where they have these 10-foot tall stones that are 70, 100 feet long, and they don't even know why the fuck they got them there.
They don't even know when they got them there.
They have no idea.
And that's the really extreme people that believe in the ancient civilization's advancement.
That's their idea, is that we lost all the glass and metal, and all gets absorbed from...
We showed a Blendtec blender blending an iPhone.
We showed a video of that yesterday.
kevin pereira
Yeah, it turned into a fine dust.
joe rogan
It's amazing!
What do you think would happen if that iPhone got in the bottom of a glacier and it's a mile high and it's moving a foot a year, whatever the fuck it does, just crushing everything in front of it.
Trillions of tons of ice.
You wouldn't get much more than that either.
Just crush it down to nothing.
kevin pereira
You mentioned this war between ignorance or stupidity and technology.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the battle.
kevin pereira
It is a huge battle.
But what concerns me, and I am fundamentally an optimist, but I always raise a flag when I can.
And what concerns me is technology's role in dumbing people down.
That its role as a propaganda machine, astroturfing.
You know, where you can make it look like the opinions of many are something just with the click of a mouse.
There are companies that are designed to do this, where you can disseminate information, people can live in their bubble, where if, let's say, a Republican Googles something or a Democrat Googles something, their results are filtered and different from each other.
Like, this is happening today.
joe rogan
I see that, but I also, and I agree with you that that is a concern, but I also see that the free distribution of information ultimately will balance that out.
Because I see that what's going on now is more skepticism, more intolerance to corruption, more understanding of the corruption itself than it's ever existed before, and that is because of the internet.
unidentified
Right.
kevin pereira
But have you read YouTube comments?
Like, that skepticism is being fueled and powered and growing exponentially on both sides of every issue.
You know what I mean?
Like the commentary and the dissection and the editing of information, which is prevalent now.
People seek out voices that speak to the opinion that they want to have.
joe rogan
That is true for now.
kevin pereira
It's happening.
joe rogan
But I think people are better today, I know I am certainly better today, at seeing contrary points, to seeing information that doesn't jive with me.
kevin pereira
Because you seek them out.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's because I seek them out, but I think that's a trend that we could set in all sorts of people.
unidentified
I hope.
joe rogan
I think the only way to really truly benefit is to actually truly benefit.
And the only way to truly benefit is to be honest and real.
And to know what is going on.
Not to have a distorted perception of what's going on.
Because you can only live in that distortion for so long before you go fucking insane.
And even people that are insane wish they weren't.
And I think there is a way...
That we can all figure out how to get through this and not be insane.
And the only way is truth, reality, and objective thinking.
I think the internet facilitates that in a way that nothing else before has.
kevin pereira
I think the internet gives people an ability.
joe rogan
And it's only been here for a couple of decades.
kevin pereira
Sure.
joe rogan
I think it hasn't even had a chance We're good to go.
That didn't before.
The access to information from the time they were a young child and the ability to disseminate information and double and triple check things.
And there's people like WikiLeaks and there's people like Anonymous that are on top of shit to make sure that everybody knows the truth.
And I think that will spawn others.
And I think that is the trend of the future.
Future is the truth.
And I think that's all being distributed through the internet and changing generations.
kevin pereira
Again, as a fundamental optimist and an advocate for technology, I agree and I hope.
But with that said, just as the internet's ability to distribute information and disseminate truth, it's also in its infancy to distort and to deliver messages to people that are targeted and false.
joe rogan
Sure, but that requires conspiracy.
And the conspiracy doesn't necessarily...
kevin pereira
But throughout history, there's been nothing but conspiracy.
joe rogan
Conspiracy doesn't necessarily empower the individual.
And the individual is the one who's going to break the conspiracy.
Much like WikiLeaks, much like that Bradley Manning guy did.
People are going to realize that it does not benefit them to help this big giant group of cunts.
And I think that is a trend.
kevin pereira
Or that giant group of cunts will use astroturfing and the technology available to deliver a specific message to them on the channels that they're getting at so that either A, they believe it's truth or they feel like they need to believe it for their security or for a myriad of reasons.
joe rogan
Maybe.
kevin pereira
Again, I'm the optimist.
joe rogan
My argument is that it's going to be harder and harder to do that.
kevin pereira
I'm just saying we need to be vigilant.
Ever vigilant.
joe rogan
Yes, I agree with you.
kevin pereira
Which is why I'm starting a podcast on Death Squad next week.
joe rogan
Kevin Pereira stepped up to the plate, kid.
kevin pereira
I'm only going to talk about fisting and cake farts.
joe rogan
That's all you need to talk about.
Everything else is redundant.
kevin pereira
Cake farts is still one of my favorite videos.
joe rogan
It's about fun, ladies and gentlemen.
That's what this life is.
You want to break it down to hippie positive energy.
You want to break it down to that.
That is one way to look at it, although that idea has been tainted by yoga instructors trying to fuck their students.
There's more to it.
kevin pereira
And by Coca-Cola saying that that Coke will deliver a smile.
If you want fun, buy our product.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's possible that some products do deliver fun though, right?
unidentified
They do.
kevin pereira
Have you tried OxyContin?
joe rogan
What about your A7? Oh my god, so much fun.
It's an Audi we're talking about.
So much fun.
kevin pereira
It's a spaceship on wheels.
What is an A7? It is a spaceship.
joe rogan
Yeah, rich guys talking about cars.
That's what the folks need in this world.
That's real change.
kevin pereira
It's aspirational programming.
How dare you?
joe rogan
I'm sad.
I'm sad that it's just Obama.
I thought when Obama came into office that we were going to have like a real...
kevin pereira
Wasn't there a moment where you really thought like...
joe rogan
Holy shit.
kevin pereira
You know why I thought too?
And it wasn't because I believed the campaign.
I really believed that we would see change because his first campaign was funded by the people.
And, you know, again, money and politics is the root of so many evils.
Lobbyists, super PACs, all that shit is the root of so many evils that I thought like, here is a guy who's going to be beholden to us.
Right.
Because we put him there.
I personally donated.
joe rogan
He's a young guy.
He comes from a single mom.
He's half black.
kevin pereira
He's been through the system.
joe rogan
He's not an elitist.
He's not some blue blood cunt that went to school in Connecticut.
Yeah, I thought this is our chance.
I thought this was really going to be a chance.
The Bush-Cheney administration was clearly evil.
I mean, you could be a Republican all day, ladies and gentlemen, if you are a fan of civil liberties, if you are a fan of people looking out for people, how the fuck could you be a fan of Even on the fiscal side, fiscal conservatism, they blew up the budget with unfunded wars and everything else.
kevin pereira
So, pretty insane.
And it was pretty telling that none of them were at the RNC. Not a single one of them was trying to erase those memories.
joe rogan
Isn't that hilarious?
You would think that the last sitting president, the last sitting president, two-term president, would be someone that they would bring out.
No, they are avoiding any mention of George W. He might be insane by now.
Who knows?
When was the last time we saw him get interviewed?
He might be out.
kevin pereira
He's on a ranch right now.
He's doing fine.
joe rogan
I think there's got to be some disconnect.
In order for you to be a guy who's responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, there's got to be some sort of a disconnect.
And ultimately, I think that's probably what fucked Ronald Reagan's head over.
I think that it fucks up a lot of people.
Look, Johnny Cochran and Robert Kardashian, both those guys died young of brain tumors.
Okay, why?
Because they got O.J. Simpson off.
They know they did something evil.
kevin pereira
Yeah, they know.
joe rogan
They know they did some evil shit.
I mean, you get brain tumors.
Two guys get brain tumors.
They die of...
I think they both got brain tumors.
Those are the guys?
kevin pereira
Either way, they're both young.
joe rogan
They both died young.
I mean, your health pays a fucking price for that shit.
kevin pereira
I'm not saying I wonder if there's been studies on that where people have to lie during a study or do something they believe is morally wrong and then they test their physical health to see if that knowledge, if those secrets weighs on them because it must.
joe rogan
I'm sure it does.
kevin pereira
It has to have a load bear on your soul.
joe rogan
It's got to.
It fucks people over, man.
You've seen people's faces when they've gone through scandal and they're dealing with negative.
Negative energy becomes real.
Talk to Jamie Kilstein.
Negative energy will fucking come down on you for real.
kevin pereira
Has there been a study on memory recall and...
Memory recall of those who are documenting an experience versus those who are actively participating in it.
Like, for example, if I'm at a concert or if I'm at any event and I'm too busy taking photos for Instagram and tweeting about it and snapping photos and whatever, yes, I can look at those memories and I have recall of those memories, but how active is my memory of that event and, you know, on what scale would I rate that experience versus being present and enjoying it?
joe rogan
It's extremely subjective.
Depends on the individual.
It depends on how they viewed the past, whether or not they've had traumatic experiences at any sort of event before, whether they've had a reason to look at things in great detail.
They've also shown that people can experience things.
And then if there's a certain amount of time where someone introduces something that didn't actually happen into their thoughts and then revisits it with the same information later, that these people will agree that something happened that didn't happen.
So they'll intentionally inject, especially during emotionally charged events, they'll intentionally inject some sort of a fake memory into someone's mind, and later that becomes real.
And that's what people have argued about O.J., that O.J. actually does believe that he didn't kill them after a while, that you might even be able to fucking pass a polygraph test after a certain time.
kevin pereira
Oh, you can absolutely introduce false memories by asking leading questions.
About the guy in the white hat.
Of course.
You know the guy in the white hat.
Oh, of course there was a guy in a white hat there because now you're asking me about that.
joe rogan
Well, you know that whole story about those people that were wrongly convicted of child molestation.
They were running a daycare center and they had talked all these kids into coming up with stories of someone touching them.
And it was all false.
It was all bullshit.
But they had introduced it into a child's brain.
And like, there's one thing to talk about memories and how tricky that can be.
Because on one hand, there are memories in my life that I have that I can tell you with absolutely no uncertainty whatsoever that I remember exactly what happened.
But there's some that I'm like, man, it's like a flash show in my head.
It's like a snapshot show.
I see like a slide here, a slide there.
kevin pereira
And if I can interpolate that for you and say, well, in between slide A and slide B, this event happened, you might actually connect those dots and go, oh, I guess your event did happen because I could see that.
Being part of the progression.
joe rogan
Sort of.
And things get recalibrated, too.
Like, I remember I had a particular image of the house where I grew up in, and then I went back and saw it recently, and I was like, oh yeah, okay, it was over here now.
Oh, it was this way.
You know, it was like, I had to recalibrate, and now I have the revised version.
I have all the...
kevin pereira
The updated memory.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I have everything put into place, but if you had made me, like, draw my street before, I might have fucked it up entirely.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I might have had different people's houses on the wrong sides.
Oh, the bridge is over to the left.
Fuck, I thought it was over here.
You can twist shit up and make it real inside your stupid head.
Maybe that's one of the benefits of the upgrade when we're going to be able to videotape things.
kevin pereira
Record everything 24-7?
joe rogan
Yeah, and it's going to start out with Google goggles and then work its way to a chip that you put in your eyeballs.
kevin pereira
It'll be contact lens with OLED and then you won't even need the lens.
joe rogan
Who's going to be the first person that lets their eyes get cut out for some new eyeballs that we've invented that are way better?
That's going to happen.
kevin pereira
I'm reading a book about that right now.
It's a fictional tale about a guy who loses his leg in a traumatic accident, but he's an engineer working at this future kind of biotech company.
So he designs a better leg and then gets addicted to the fact that his bionic leg has better features and can do certain things that his real leg can't.
So he cuts off his real leg.
unidentified
Oh!
kevin pereira
The other one, so we can have two bionic legs, but then he's like, well, if my legs are better, why don't I cut off my arm?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
kevin pereira
And it's like, it's that whole cycle, repeating itself is fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Jesus.
Yeah, you would think the six million dollar man would not be happy with just a good right hand.
You know, he throws a shitty jab, and behind comes the right hand of doom that can punch right through your head.
kevin pereira
There's a great video of people throwing baseballs with their non-dominant hands.
I don't know if you've seen it, but it's hilarious.
It's hilarious, like the weakling little throw and the awkward motion that if you try to do anything with your non-dominant hand...
brian redban
We were talking about this the other day.
Do you guys think you can masturbate using your non-dominant hand?
I can.
kevin pereira
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Masturbation is just this.
It's not a lot of work.
brian redban
It feels weird to me.
joe rogan
Playing pool left-handed is really fucking hard.
I play really good right-handed.
kevin pereira
You're pretty much just jerking off with a cue stick, though.
That's that motion.
You were just doing a Euro grip.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not.
It's how you judge...
The plane of your arm.
You have to be in control of the speed of the motion.
There's a lot of fine motor skill movements going on there.
But it's nothing compared to drawing.
I can shoot pool.
I can make certain shots with my left hand.
I can't draw with my left hand at all.
kevin pereira
Can you write?
joe rogan
Fucking barely.
It doesn't listen.
kevin pereira
But every guy is ambidextrous when it comes to jerking off.
joe rogan
No, not really.
unidentified
Yes!
kevin pereira
Come on!
Every guy can switch hit.
brian redban
I can.
unidentified
What?
brian redban
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
If there was nothing in front of me and I had my imagination with my right hand, I could do it.
My left hand, I think from scratch with nothing in front of me, I don't think I could even get a hard bracelet on your left hand.
joe rogan
I disagree.
I know you could do it.
You would just have to be horny enough.
See, when you say from scratch, you're talking about your regular life, which you beat off like a fucking spider monkey every three or four hours.
You need a highly tuned jerk-off hand for that kind of beating up.
You're a guy who watches porn all the time.
You bang porn stars.
You got a lot of ridiculousness going on in your situation.
But if you were like a guy who couldn't ever get laid, and you didn't have access to porn, and you weren't jerking off, no fleshlights, and you went without beating off for like two weeks, and then someone said, here, here's a porno film, beat off with your left hand, you'd be like, fuck yeah!
You had Peter North all over your screen.
brian redban
It just seems like it's really dead.
It doesn't feel like it has any feeling.
kevin pereira
You've got to build that up, man.
You've got calluses on a new guitar player.
You've got to build it up.
joe rogan
It's like my joke that I had way, way, way back in the day about having a girl jerk you off.
Having a girl jerk you off trying to brush your teeth with your left hand.
It's like just clumsy, spastic, and that your right hand is a motherfucker.
Your right hand knows where the gum line is, and it gets that fast vibration, but your left hand, it's like you have to hold it still and move your face over to the brush, because your hand is so stupid.
It doesn't have a brush right.
kevin pereira
That's why I baby bird with two sonic hairs every night, just so I can make sure I can double fist the I put a Q-tip in each ear, and I took a shit at the same time, and then I blacked out from ecstasy.
joe rogan
It was the most amazing feeling ever.
kevin pereira
You cleared all your orifices at once.
joe rogan
It was this wonderful feeling.
kevin pereira
There's a new toilet add-on that they're selling, the Squatty.
It's supposed to be like a thing that stores...
joe rogan
You stand on it, right?
kevin pereira
No, you sit, but it elevates your legs so that you have more of a squatting posture, which relaxes the tract so that the shit can slide out easier.
And it's been scientifically proven that squatting...
I mean, we've done it for...
Years and years and years as a society until we have bowls to sit down on that it's more efficient, it's healthier for you.
joe rogan
Yeah, they still do it.
China, apparently.
kevin pereira
Yeah, they still do it in many places.
But I just think that's, I wonder if that's gonna catch on.
joe rogan
The shitting platform.
kevin pereira
People are so weird about fecal matter and biological movements in general.
joe rogan
Well, when Brian and I were in Japan, one of the things that we...
By the way, you guys sent me these toilets, and I gotta thank this company that sent me the toilet, because I don't have the information.
You already have one?
Yeah, they sent me two of them.
I haven't set them up yet, though.
kevin pereira
Are they the ones with the heating, massaging, and the ass jet?
joe rogan
Yes, the whole deal.
And they will be at the new studio.
So Brian, when you take a shit at the new studio, you will be able to clean your...
brian redban
Are they toeders?
joe rogan
They are called...
The company's called Brondell.
And it's B-R-O-N-D-E-L-L dot com.
And Brondell has...
They sent us two of these and they're fucking badass.
kevin pereira
They're like Cadillacs for your ass cheeks.
Everybody should be shitting with them.
joe rogan
One in my home office and one in the studio and it will be dope as fuck.
kevin pereira
You said new studio?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
I got a new studio in Woodland Hills.
kevin pereira
Congrats.
joe rogan
Yeah, thanks.
It's all set up.
It's fucking badass.
It's...
The lease is signed and now there's...
Equipment being built right now.
I'm hiring this dude, Eric, who created Brian's cat clock over there, the desk quad clock.
Yeah, it's dope.
He's a metal worker.
He's building me this custom whole thing.
kevin pereira
Like a desk setup kind of thing?
joe rogan
And it's going to be cool because it's reclaimed wood.
We're using reclaimed farm oak.
kevin pereira
Look at you.
Upcycling.
joe rogan
Yeah, not only that.
I like the fact that it's got...
Some life to it.
It's old.
People have been using this.
There's vibes in it.
I subscribe to this Rupert Sheldrake idea that even objects have some sort of memory.
kevin pereira
They resonate and some energy has been pumped into them.
That's why the old recording studios, people are like, well, these albums have been recorded there.
And I'm like, that means something.
Those vibes and that energy was captured there.
joe rogan
Dude, I'm going to take you after this podcast is over into the main room of the comedy room here at the Ice House and you tell me if you don't feel vibes in this place.
This place is fucking magic.
The Ice House is a perfect example of a vortex of happiness.
So many people have laughed their fucking ass off in that room.
That room has a resonance, like a Don't you feel it?
brian redban
Yeah.
You know what's really badass, by the way?
Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock were both at the Comedy Store last night.
joe rogan
Really?
kevin pereira
It was so weird.
brian redban
I was just walking in.
It's Trippin' Tuesday or whatever.
And I'm just like, holy shit, that's...
Eddie Murphy.
Holy shit.
kevin pereira
Were they on stage?
brian redban
No, they were just hanging out watching comics.
joe rogan
Speaking of which, we've got to get Charlie back in here, man.
We haven't had Charlie in here in a while.
I've got to contact him.
That was one of my favorite episodes when he was telling the story about Mike Tyson.
He pulled up to Mike Tyson's house and he was playing with a fucking lion.
Charlie Murph is one of the greatest storytellers ever.
Last summer, I was in Hawaii with my family on vacation, and I ran into his cousin Rich at the resort.
I was like, what are you doing here?
He's like, Charlie's here.
Eddie's here.
And I hung out with Eddie.
I had lunch with Eddie Murphy and Charlie.
It was like, this is the weirdest thing ever.
For being a kid to watching Raw, and then all of a sudden I'm talking to Eddie Murphy about comedy.
I was like, whoa, this is bizarre, man.
We're just sitting there talking to him like, this is the strangest thing ever.
He was super nice, man.
I've heard Eddie Murphy could be a dick.
He couldn't have been nicer, man.
Maybe he was on vacation.
kevin pereira
Well, he's on vacation in Hawaii with his family.
I mean, come on.
I would hope he's a nice guy.
joe rogan
That was one of those things where I was talking and I was like, holy shit, I'm talking to Eddie Murphy.
This is legit.
kevin pereira
When that moment happens, do you feel yourself projecting out of your body and getting lost in your own thoughts or do you keep it together pretty well and go, oh shit, I'm talking, but focus up.
This is a moment.
joe rogan
No, I stay in the moment.
There's like a little voice.
I'm like, shut up, bitch.
kevin pereira
There's a six-year-old kid in cowboy pajama onesie.
Oh my god, Eddie Murphy!
joe rogan
Yeah, the kid who listened to his first CD when he was on Saturday Night Live.
It was a cassette back then.
His best work, in my opinion, wasn't even Delirious.
It was the album before Delirious.
Where he talks about putting an aftershave on his dick and washing his balls in the sink.
And his grandma came in, you lazy motherfucker, washing your dick in the sink.
You're too lazy to even take a bath.
You're washing your dick in the sink.
It's fucking funny, man.
There's a weird thing about, like, when I met Anthony Bourdain, it seemed silly, but I met him, it was a weird thing.
I was like, oh, this is fucking, I'm actually talking to Anthony Bourdain.
This is strange.
kevin pereira
He had no reservations about it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Ah!
kevin pereira
Oh, you did it!
Boom!
joe rogan
When you like somebody and then you meet them, it's real weird.
So when people meet me and they get weirded out, I'll go, dude, I've been there.
Don't worry about it.
Just get through it.
Ride it out.
unidentified
You realize we're all just people.
joe rogan
It just takes time.
That said, Kevin Smith for president.
That's who I'm voting in.
brian redban
Kevin Smith?
joe rogan
Kevin Smith for president.
brian redban
Is he running?
joe rogan
No.
I think I'm going to vote him in.
kevin pereira
He's a good guy.
joe rogan
Seems like you would run things fairly.
kevin pereira
Ventura's running.
joe rogan
He started out from scratch.
He's my guy.
Everyone talks about Gary Johnson.
People even mention me.
I think Kevin Smith.
I say he's a good dude.
Let's put him as president.
You want to be his vice president?
Kevin Pereira, vice president?
kevin pereira
Ventura was talking about running in 2016. Howard Stern is his running mate.
I think that's awesome.
joe rogan
Howard Stern is his right?
Yeah.
brian redban
That'd be awesome.
kevin pereira
But Ventura is like, what's his record of everything from entertainer to book writer to government official to Navy SEAL? What about Tower 7?
unidentified
That's something they never bring up is Tower 7. So good!
joe rogan
I was a Navy SEAL! I love it!
kevin pereira
I want that!
unidentified
Tower 7!
kevin pereira
It's one step closer to President Camacho.
joe rogan
I think that he has a good grasp on the amount of fuckery in his government, but if you listen to the way he debated with Jimmy Norton when he went on the Opie and Anthony show, him and Jimmy Norton, you realize he's kind of a fuckhead.
He's got some fuckhead in him.
kevin pereira
Don't they all?
joe rogan
Yeah, everybody does.
unidentified
Don't they all?
joe rogan
Everybody does.
brian redban
So this Brunel or Brunel?
joe rogan
We need to get them on mushrooms.
brian redban
Was your Brunel a full toilet or is it one of those lids?
joe rogan
It's a lid.
It's just like the ones in Japan.
They take your regular lid off and they put this electronic ass clean in, biflamma jammy, warm water up your butt thing.
It's amazing.
kevin pereira
USB cable gets in there and cleans it all out.
joe rogan
And it's something that makes you realize, like, wow.
Why are we so gross with our smearing poo paper?
Because that's all it is.
kevin pereira
We need the three seashells.
joe rogan
We all need to have our asses cleaned like that.
It would probably be like way healthy.
That's what a good girlfriend is for.
Muslims make fun of them.
Muslims make fun of them.
Yeah, that's when you really love a chick, when you shit in front of her.
I've seen guys shit in front of their girlfriends.
I was like, I've never been that comfortable with somebody.
kevin pereira
A real relationship, you do it on her.
I mean, just chest and plastic wrap and just get it going.
joe rogan
Okay, Stallone.
I think the rumors of Stallone, even if they were true, it's like, I've seen it all!
You want to fucking shock me?
Shit on my chest!
kevin pereira
You have to read The Dirt, man.
When they're putting hotel room phones into women's assholes and trying to order room service by yelling into them.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
This is in the Motley Crue book?
kevin pereira
It's a great book.
Again, not even a fan of Motley Crue, but the shit they did.
If it's on Audible, it's absolutely worth listening to.
joe rogan
Whoa.
kevin pereira
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine you're the next person in that fucking hotel room and you go to pick up dessert.
kevin pereira
I'm getting weird about hotel rooms now.
joe rogan
You should be weird.
kevin pereira
Yeah, the remote control and the bedspread.
Not the sheets, but the bedspread.
How many naked dudes have just beat off there?
joe rogan
How many remote controls have been up someone's ass?
kevin pereira
Oh, yeah.
I don't have to clean this.
I'll put that there.
joe rogan
Right up their ass.
brian redban
Spider-Man.
joe rogan
Yeah, bent over trying to use the remote from inside your ass with your sphincter.
kevin pereira
Yeah.
If I do a kegel, I can watch pay-per-view.
joe rogan
The thing is still pointing outward, right?
You've got the IR beam coming out of the butthole.
Squeeze it with your ass to get the right numbers.
kevin pereira
Time to check out.
joe rogan
This fucking podcast is in the toilet, ladies and gentlemen.
kevin pereira
That's where it should be.
brian redban
Literally.
kevin pereira
That's where it should be right now.
joe rogan
Literally.
And I don't like to say literally.
Kevin Smith for president, folks.
Let's get this trending.
Let's make it.
That Kevin Smith on Twitter, he's a good fucking dude.
He could run things.
brian redban
I'll vote for Kevin Pereira.
joe rogan
Kevin Pereira and Kevin Smith.
That was my point.
We'll bring the two of them together.
kevin pereira
Dual ticket.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
kevin pereira
I love him.
joe rogan
I'll watch from the sidelines.
kevin pereira
No, we need you out there.
Preaching the word.
We need the Death Squad support.
joe rogan
I'll do it through Twitter.
kevin pereira
There we go.
joe rogan
I'll preach through Twitter.
kevin pereira
Preach the revolution.
joe rogan
And occasionally YouTube.
And I'll...
Whatever.
brian redban
We can go to Kevin Rose's sex parties.
joe rogan
We'll help you when you launch your new podcast on the Death Squad Network next week.
Kevin Pereira, ladies and gentlemen.
New top ten podcast.
kevin pereira
I got shit to plug.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
Get introduced into the fucking Matrix.
We're going to change things, folks, from the ground floor.
kevin pereira
Will Onnit sponsor me?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
Done.
Done.
kevin pereira
Take it.
unidentified
Done.
brian redban
Done.
joe rogan
All right, folks.
Let's fucking bring this bitch home.
Kevin, you're an animal, a great human being.
kevin pereira
Thank you, sir.
joe rogan
You're a fucking fantastic guest.
kevin pereira
Always a pleasure.
joe rogan
It was like we're about to run out of time on Ustream, but it's like we could do another six hours of this shit.
brian redban
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
We've got to do this more often.
kevin pereira
We've got to do a marathon.
joe rogan
We're going to.
You're going to have your own podcast.
I'm going to do yours.
You're going to do mine.
We're going to keep this party rolling this weekend, you fucking savages in North Carolina.
We will be in Raleigh at Memorial Hall Friday night, which is...
What's today?
The 26th?
The 28th.
Friday the 28th of September at Memorial Hall in Raleigh and then Saturday night.
We're at the Thomas Wolfe Auditorium in Asheville, North Carolina.
Asheville, I hear that's a bad motherfucking town.
Except for the white dudes with dreadlocks and the drum circles.
I hear that shit's gotta go!
So what we need to do is get to Asheville and introduce those kids to some fucking squats.
Some deep squats and some bison meat, okay?
Put the tofu down!
unidentified
Bam!
joe rogan
If you don't eat bisons, they just rot or monsters come and eat them.
And then we get more monsters eating bisons.
Whatever can kill a bison, you don't want that fucking thing around, okay?
Trust me.
Kill the bison yourself.
Keep the population in line.
Have a good steak.
Build that testosterone.
Do hill sprints.
I want you to do some sandbag training.
unidentified
Start taking jujitsu, my friend!
joe rogan
Trying to make some armies here.
And the only way the army really is going to work is if they're smart, so they've got to take the alpha brain.
Go to onnit.com, O-N-N-I-T. Get yourself some alpha brain.
Thanks again to audible.com for sponsoring this podcast.
And if you go to audible.com forward slash Joe, you can try Audible free for 30 days and get a free audio book.
There's a lot of good ones.
Fuck, what was the one?
The Bobcat Goldthwait.
Bobcat Goldthwait's got a couple of good books up there too.
kevin pereira
He is a brilliant motherfucker.
joe rogan
And he's a great guy.
We had him on the podcast.
We love him.
And that's it.
Okay, so we will see you next week.
We've got a ton of podcast guests next week, including Amber Lyon, formerly of CNN. She's awesome.
She's going to tell us what the fuck is going on in this crazy, wacky world of the media.
We also have the guys from London Real.
And London Real is a great podcast that has been, they've said themselves, they were inspired by this one.
And that's what made them start it.
And they're doing a fucking amazing job.
They've had Graham Hancock on and Simon Powell and a bunch of really interesting people.
We've talked a lot about psychedelics and martial arts and philosophies.
It's very, very similar to this show in a lot of ways and really interesting, introspective, honest dudes.
So they will be on next week as well.
And we're fucking, we got shit rolling, bitches.
kevin pereira
Can I sneak in a 10 second plug?
I totally forgot to.
Let's ask America.tv.
It's a new game show that I'm doing, syndicated telepictures.
It's only in a few markets, but if you guys go there, click on the YouTube link, watch the first episode or two.
You might not like it.
I love it.
It's a fun, silly game show.
You should fucking be on it.
joe rogan
I'll do it.
kevin pereira
You play from home using Skype.
joe rogan
I'll do it.
kevin pereira
So any of your audience can sign up.
And I've seen dudes win $50,000 in 20 minutes.
I've hosted a show and handed out 50 grand for having an opinion about America.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
kevin pereira
On your webcam.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
kevin pereira
It's a brand new game show.
I'm having a blast doing it.
joe rogan
So what would I do?
Would I be a judge or something?
kevin pereira
No, you could be a contestant.
joe rogan
I could be a contestant?
kevin pereira
Yeah, I mean, you'd probably have to play for charity, but...
joe rogan
I'll play for charity.
kevin pereira
Done.
joe rogan
Okay, you'll pick a good charity.
kevin pereira
You got it.
joe rogan
Okay, beautiful.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Let's ask America about that TV. Hopefully we'll get Ian Edwards back next week.
Ian's a fucking hilarious comedian.
He should be here today, but honestly, Kevin Perry's a better guest.
But Ian's a great guy.
No, Ian's a great guy.
What the fuck is that shit?
kevin pereira
Check out my new podcast.
joe rogan
You know why he's a better guest?
Because he's here.
kevin pereira
That's right.
joe rogan
He didn't have to fuck.
Cancel that flight, bitch.
You got a flight?
unidentified
Cancel that!
joe rogan
Change it.
Move it around.
Don't cancel the podcast.
How dare you?
Millions of people listening to this shit.
This is for you.
kevin pereira
It's disrespectful, Joe, and I'm sorry that it happened.
joe rogan
It's for all of us together.
We are all in this dirty thing together, ladies and gentlemen.
Remember, if I can tell you anything, give you any piece of advice, is you can be the hero of your own story.
If your life was a movie, and it started right now...
Act like you're the hero.
Get shit done.
Do what the hero would do.
And you will have a beautiful life.
Good night.
See you soon.
Next week.
Maybe I'll see you this weekend if you live in North Carolina.
If you're fucking crazy enough to just travel there.
brian redban
I have a Death Squad show here Friday, by the way.
Tickets are on sale.
joe rogan
Who's on?
Who's on the show?
brian redban
It's a secret!
joe rogan
You gotta say who's on the show.
brian redban
No, it's a secret right now.
kevin pereira
You know it's gonna be quality because it's Death Squad.
I'm trying.
I'm part of the family now.
joe rogan
You don't know who's on.
brian redban
Actually, I know a couple other people.
I'm still waiting on a couple people.
kevin pereira
This guy TBD, he's fucking hilarious.
joe rogan
You're gonna be on it?
You're going to be on it?
brian redban
I'm going to be on it.
Randy Littke's going to be on it.
And it's a really hilarious comic named Al Jackson that was on a few of Ari Shafir's podcasts.
I just met him last night and it seems really funny.
joe rogan
If you want to listen to Ari Shafir's podcast, it's called The Skeptic Tank.
You can get that shit on iTunes.
Joey Diaz is the church of what's happening now.
You can get that on iTunes as well.
Tom Segura, our boy, and his wife, Christina Pazitzky, the very funny and beautiful Christina Pazitzky.
You can get them.
Their podcast is called Your Mom's House.
That is also available on iTunes.
All this shit is free.
And, of course, the Duncan Trussell Family Hour.
That is the Death Squad Universe, ladies and gentlemen.
And we'll see you guys soon.
We love you all.
We feel it.
We're moving in this thing together.
Somehow or another, we will make it all better or not.
Or it doesn't matter.
It goes on forever.
It repeats itself.
It's a fucking endless cycle.
kevin pereira
See you on the next cycle, brother.
unidentified
Yes!
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