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Sept. 25, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #269 - Tait Fletcher
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joe rogan
I should probably tell them.
We're on the air right now, and I'm going to tweet and talk at the same time, folks.
That's how I roll.
Here we go.
I don't even have to look at this fucking screen, man.
That's how good I am.
Here we go.
I'm going to go with you dirty bitches.
I do it all by hand.
I'm a fucking throwback.
I drive a manual transmission car, ladies and gentlemen.
You know why?
Because I'm a fucking man, and a man should know how to row gears, okay?
tait fletcher
Can you do three on the tree?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've done that before, but that confuses the shit out of me.
A friend had a truck, and I was like, what?
Bill Burr has one of those.
He has a three on the tree.
For folks at home who don't know what we're talking about, old school trucks especially would have clutches on the floor.
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joe rogan
Let's keep doing that in commercials.
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I just got tired of doing it.
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joe rogan
Why?
You were bored?
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I can't even sit here for two minutes.
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I can't take it.
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You can get it confused and be like, I'm going to go into farts because I'm bored.
People in the bank aren't doing that.
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joe rogan
Dude, this bulletproof coffee that you brought here, explain this.
Tate Fletcher, OG gangster of the Death Squad from day one.
tait fletcher
From day one?
joe rogan
From day one.
Push up to that thing.
tait fletcher
With that crazy beard.
joe rogan
For folks who are just listening to this, Tate's rocking a beard that looks like it's glued on.
It looks like the fake Rick Ross's beard, like they were talking about.
unidentified
I love how he does differentiate the fake.
tait fletcher
Rick Ross.
joe rogan
Well, you got to.
tait fletcher
Freeway Rick Ross.
joe rogan
If you haven't listened to those episodes of my podcast, please do it just for your own edification because it's a fascinating scenario.
Guy was a big time drug dealer.
His name was Freeway Rick Ross.
I mean, they had a Freeway Rick Ross Task Force in the LAPD. His drug sales were a part of the Iran Contragate, all that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
His drug sales were what's funding foreign militaries.
That's where they were getting the money from.
And this is all part of how Gary Webb exposed this in a book, and Michael Rupert, who was a...
L.A. Police Department narcotics officer exposed it.
Yeah, I mean, so this guy, Freeway Rick Ross, was a part of this.
He was a huge drug dealer, making millions and millions of dollars, right?
Just crazy, crazy money.
Drove around in a hearse, you know, like, drive around in, like, station wagons and shit, so, like, no flashing, no bling.
Just kept it on the DL and just raking in the cash.
Meanwhile, the dude couldn't even read, okay?
Goes to jail, learns how to read, becomes a lawyer, finds a hole in his fucking, in his three strikes thing, and gets out.
So, while he's in jail, some dude is calling himself Rick Ross, and he's a big fat guy who used to be a corrections officer.
tait fletcher
No.
joe rogan
A corrections officer is pretending that he was this big time drug dealer, Rick Ross.
So now Rick Ross gets out of jail and he's trying to sue them.
But he's like going to battle.
The record companies are going to battle with him over his own real name.
tait fletcher
That's awesome.
joe rogan
It's insane.
This is a movie, Tate Fletcher.
This is not a real world.
This is awesome.
This world is not real.
Just because you can touch it and move it around, this motherfucker's fake.
There's no way that's possible.
In 2012, there's no way that should be possible.
Some guy could be a corrections officer.
tait fletcher
I like it that he's like...
Is there a rap that he has that's not about shooting somebody or having a pound to blow?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's all about hustling.
How about the fact that he's got Rick Ross tattooed on his fingers?
He's got Rick Ross tattooed.
tait fletcher
I haven't looked at the man that closely.
joe rogan
Dude, he's got another man's name tattooed on his fingers, and that other man is out of jail now because he's smart.
That other guy's a real bad motherfucker.
He's not some fake fat guy who knows how to make shit rhyme.
unidentified
That's awesome.
Like, wow.
joe rogan
It's a crazy story, man.
It's a really weird story.
tait fletcher
How long did you spend with him?
joe rogan
We did two podcasts with him, and he came back, and we could do a hundred more, man.
He lives in L.A.? Yeah, and he's still fighting in court.
Very nice guy, man.
tait fletcher
He's got money.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
He's barely getting by.
But he's, I mean, he's, I'm sure, I mean, I guess he could make money doing like interviews or doing like seminars or something like that.
But I think he's trying to do it more for like real benefit, man.
He's like doing a lot of different speeches for young kids and telling a story and trying to offer inspiration.
Because the dude went to jail, he didn't even know how to read.
He was a tennis player, like a really badass tennis player.
And in learning how to play tennis.
tait fletcher
Vanessa Williams' uncle.
joe rogan
He was a really good tennis player, but he couldn't read, so he couldn't go to college.
tait fletcher
He's got to get a screenplay.
joe rogan
I'm sure they must have something going on.
We actually talked to him about it.
We said Too Short had to play it.
Too Short looks just like him, I'm telling you.
He's taller than Too Short, but he has Too Short's face.
Really?
It's kind of crazy.
Or maybe Denzel Washington could play him.
He could fucking play anybody, right?
tait fletcher
He's badass, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You did a movie with him?
tait fletcher
Yeah, yeah.
I just got off.
joe rogan
What is it?
tait fletcher
It's called Two Guns.
It's him and Mark Wahlberg.
Our crew is all Navy SEALs, and then we split from Wahlberg.
He was one of our crew.
We go to kill them, and the movie's us hunting them, basically.
joe rogan
What do you feel like when, like, if you were a real Navy SEAL and you saw these crazy, like, missing in action type movies and shit where people do ridiculous stuff, what the fuck does it like to do?
tait fletcher
You know what's crazy, dude, on films is that all those guys, the producers and directors, they're like, we need this to look real.
We need this, we want it to be authentic.
Until it's the day to shoot it, and then they're like, okay, we're going to flip the car over 16 times, and you're just going to push it off, and you'll just push out and roll.
Something that's ridiculous, you know?
And there's a lot of that.
None of it matters.
It's all suspension of belief, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a certain amount of that you do in a movie, though, and I lose level 10. I can never get to level 10 in your movie.
tait fletcher
You know what, though, dude?
You look at American Kickbox or something as an MMA fighter, you look at that and you're still like, awesome, and he's dipping his fucking gauze in glass and shit.
You're like, rad.
joe rogan
Right, but it's never going to kick.
Was that just called Kickboxer?
Yeah, it was just the Jean-Claude Van Damme.
tait fletcher
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I think when you get to a certain, you know, you have to suspend disbelief like that, you're never going to hit like that Godfather level.
tait fletcher
Right.
joe rogan
You know, you see like the Godfather, you watch that movie, you go, God!
Damn, they nailed that motherfucker.
The way they choked that dude in the restaurant, the murders looked real, everything.
There was no sensationalizing.
There was exactly as much gore as you would see if you were in the periphery.
You felt like you were in the experience.
They weren't bullshitting you at all.
So by the time, when you get out of that movie, you're like, whoa.
Same thing as like Apocalypse Now.
tait fletcher
Forever.
joe rogan
Yes, those movies hold up.
tait fletcher
Or The Deer Hunter.
joe rogan
The Perfect example.
Perfect example.
What a crazy-ass movie that was.
And they had to take the deer with one shot.
That was their thing.
tait fletcher
Well, they're all getting tortured with the Russian roulette and all that shit.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
The Russian roulette scene with Christopher Walken, that is one of the most intense scenes in any movie of any era.
Even today, if that movie came out today, it would 100% hold up.
Like, maybe a little bit of the music was probably a little corny or something.
tait fletcher
Have you seen Expendables, too?
joe rogan
No.
tait fletcher
I saw one.
It's a 9mm shooting you in the head, and your head vaporizes.
It's like that kind of kill-bill shit.
And you're like, why are we doing that right now?
How about we don't do that?
joe rogan
See, I'm a hypocrite, though, because I like Avengers-type shit.
I like superhero-type shit.
But I know it's bullshit.
I like that, too.
But I don't like that mishy-moshy, halfway shit, where you're pretending it's a real movie, but some nonsense happens.
Yeah.
How come this dude can beat everybody up so easy?
Like, what's going on there?
You're making these guys look like skilled fighters, and this guy's just taking them out.
tait fletcher
Did you see Batman?
joe rogan
No.
I didn't see it.
I was going to see it, but that whole Colorado shooting thing kind of fucked with me.
No, no, no.
Fucked with me.
I thought, well, definitely if I was there, I'd be scared.
But I don't think I could watch it without thinking what those people were thinking.
tait fletcher
I didn't think of those people at all.
brian redban
I'm going to get in on Blu-ray and wear my shoes in bed.
joe rogan
Just in case you gotta run.
Yeah, you felt the same way, right?
brian redban
I just, you know, I barely go to the movies, so I don't know.
joe rogan
It had to hurt the box office of that movie.
It had to.
It had to.
That's a terrible thing to think of.
tait fletcher
That's all they think of, though.
joe rogan
That is all they would think of.
But it also, like, highlighted how you could have 300 million people living together, but it's so rare that something like this pops off.
To me, it was like, it was a disgusting, horrible, sad event, but when I really analyzed the facts, I was like, man, Yeah.
tait fletcher
Yeah.
I mean, it's like there's all that shit going on.
There's all these variables and people are vying for the same job.
People aren't doing very well.
And still, you know, people aren't getting axed every day.
It's not like it was back in the 90s in L.A. where there's shootings on the freeway and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, I mean, even back in the 90s, it's like we have more access to the news now, like from everywhere.
Anything that's bad from anywhere, we get real quick.
We get a real distorted perception of what interacting with human beings is like.
The model that we're dealing with is 300 million people, which is just crazy that you would take individual episodes out of that and try to apply it to what the world is actually like.
Because it's just too many.
The numbers are just too...
People don't really know what the fuck 300 million is, but you couldn't see it.
300 million is, if you got everybody in front of you, just in this country that lived, there would literally be...
You could stand on top of a mountain, and you would see nothing but people till the horizon.
That's an insane amount of people, and they're making some shit choices.
And they're coming over to your house and they're fucking putting some drugs on aluminum foil and lighting it up in front of you.
And you're like, what the fuck are you doing?
Disrespectful.
Lighting up fucking crystal meth in front of you.
tait fletcher
Even with nice tits.
That's disrespectful.
joe rogan
Well, it's just like, whoa.
What kind of craziness are you running here?
tait fletcher
What do you think about all that?
We don't have as much outward violence like that, but you look at right now what's happening, and it seems like prison is a template for shit.
We're going to make sure blacks, Mexicans, white people don't get along.
And we're going to control the population that way.
And you look now, 20, 30, 40 years later, down the road, And even now, within the Republican Party.
The more divisions that are created, the more easily controlled people are.
joe rogan
You know what, man?
I think that's just human nature.
I think people are insecure and they're always going to hate on the other team.
It's like part of our DNA. It's part of our DNA to look at Mexicans and go, oh, that's not me.
And look at a white guy that looks exactly like you, like, that's my guy.
And look at a black guy like, ooh, I can't trust him.
It's like, that's another team.
It's hard out there.
And the best way to get through this shit is we form groups and we have loyal motherfuckers that are down with us.
Fuck everybody else, right?
And that's what people sort of, they gravitate towards that.
And when you gravitate towards that, it's like you're always going to have conflict.
It's like there's a lack of enlightenment.
tait fletcher
Yeah, isn't that a broken construct?
joe rogan
I think there's a lot of people capitalizing on human nature, and that's what they're doing.
They're making a fuckload of money off of prisons, and they're making a fuckload of money off of making sure that these areas are not rehabilitated so they have a steady supply of people to keep...
I think that's absolutely true.
tait fletcher
A buddy of mine, his brother, does big...
If you got $20 million, he'll do your mutual funds and set up your portfolio and all that shit.
And I ask him, where's all the real money going?
Where are people really looking to put loot?
And he says, in the correction system, in prisons.
And those are the futures.
And that's fucking kind of, it's a little crazy.
But it makes sense then also, you look, we're going to go to war with the Mexican immigrants that are coming in, and we're going to need to house them now.
And so we're putting, like, ever since the 90s when they started doing privatized prisons, That became a cash cow for people.
And so every bed, so we need longer sentences.
Pot, we're never really going to get really legal because most of those fucking people that are in these victimless crimes are in prison for drugs like that.
Shit that doesn't matter.
joe rogan
And when you find out that corrections officers have unions and the unions lobby to keep things, it's crazy.
tait fletcher
Or that Ikea gets their furniture made by guys that are making 12 cents a day.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's slavery.
If that's not slavery, you tell me what it is.
Oh, this guy fucked up, so now he has to be a slave.
It's not that you're trying to protect society from him and rehabilitate him.
It's like, nope, now you work for pennies.
I mean, it's really nuts.
You know, those Foxconn people, they're rioting right now.
There's one of the Foxconn factories.
It's like a 2,000-person riot going on.
They blacked it off from the Chinese version of Twitter.
They've deleted images.
They're suspending accounts and trying to delete everyone's accounts of it.
Because they can get into the internet and they can delete shit in China.
They can just delete your websites, which basically they can do here too.
Now, the government has already done that.
tait fletcher
Isn't that what they're trying to do with SOPA and all those kinds of things?
joe rogan
Yeah, they want to have more and more power to be able to do that.
But in China, what they're doing right now is stopping dissent.
Because there's a gigantic...
This is the reason why this shit is dangerous in America...
And for whatever reason, we accept it and we think it's okay, it's no big deal.
Hey, if you're not putting anything bad on the internet, you shouldn't worry about it.
But what's ridiculous is when people have power over you, they fucking almost always abuse it.
If you go back to the Stanford Prison Studies and they did it with college students, they had college students pretend to be prisoners and prison guards.
People with power abuse.
tait fletcher
Inside of like a day.
joe rogan
Inside of a day.
tait fletcher
It's like no time.
joe rogan
And these are just college students in a simulation.
And that is just...
You can't have it that way.
You can't have people be able to take down the internet.
The internet has to stay free.
Because if it doesn't stay free, then you're not going to be able to squash...
You're not going to be able to get rid of really corrupt governments.
The reason why all these people in Egypt, all these people in other parts of the world, they're having these rallies against their corrupt government is because they're able to communicate with each other.
So we're assuming that our people that are in power are always going to be fair and always going to be just and always going to be loyal to the good of the American people.
But we've already seen through Nixon, We've already seen through the evidence of shit that was passed.
That's not the case.
tait fletcher
So that's not the case.
In Iran, the only way that they were able to mobilize the resistance there was through Twitter.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
And they blacked out everything else.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
And that's the only thing that was free and clear for them.
And then that went on to Spain and the indignados that started off the revolution there, to Syria, to Egypt.
joe rogan
And that's going right now.
You see it on the news right now.
tait fletcher
Yep.
And then even just now, what happened with Occupy Wall Street?
They fucking got a couple hundred people they arrested.
Even though, if you listen to mainstream media, they say, no, that shit's dead.
It's like, well, how come you arrest 200 fucking citizens that just wanted to go and talk about how come the banks are fucking us?
joe rogan
What's that?
You know, the real situation is that this system is broken.
And they're just trying to, like, glue it, keep, like, taping it together as it's falling apart.
They're, like, putting tape and it's wrong.
No, we got it, we got it, we got it, we got it.
In order to have it, we're going to have to take some rights away to keep this fucking thing up.
And they'll glue the top of it up there.
It's a broken-ass system.
And some mathematical genius, first and foremost, has to come up with a way of distributing taxes and a way of figuring out what money really is based on and what money really is.
It has to be based on something.
It has to be some sort of resources, whether it's oil and gas or coal or wood.
Money has to be based on something.
It has to equal X amount of something.
Because right now it's just chaos.
And because of the fact that it's just chaos, it's like people are manipulating it and doing all kinds of wacky shit with it.
You can move things up and down and move them all around.
And the idea of stocks and dividends and banking, there's like a whole economy based on gambling that other businesses are going to fail.
tait fletcher
It's shitty.
joe rogan
It's insane!
It doesn't even make any sense.
tait fletcher
Well, it's like, I listen to Granholm, who was the governor of Michigan, and she was talking about states and incentives, and people have so much surplus money to bring in Dell computers or whoever to start businesses so we can have 5,000 new jobs in Michigan, whatever the deal is.
She says, but that whole construct is built and based upon that Ohio doesn't do well then.
joe rogan
Right.
tait fletcher
It's all built on taking, and Texas has really great incentives, so they get a lot of, like...
And so for a national construct, that's fucking horrible.
We've got to have states doing...
And then if you look globally, it's like, I need Mexico and Cuba to do poorly for the United States.
It's like that whole consciousness has to shift, in a way.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, we've got to figure out a way, first of all, to...
The idea that there's...
This is going to sound really crazy, but we can't have countries.
It doesn't make any sense.
You can't say that just because you were born on this patch of dirt, you can't make your way over here where there's opportunity.
Because isn't that what being a fucking human and a society developing is all about?
A developing society is a society that wants everyone to have an opportunity to do better.
Everyone!
The people that were lucky enough to be born in California.
What about the people that are born in South America?
They should be able to come here.
And it's going to fuck things up for a while.
But it will balance out eventually.
And the benefit would be the entire human race.
If it's handled by brilliant people.
If it's handled by true humanitarians.
tait fletcher
Altruism.
joe rogan
True altruism.
If the people at the top of government really were explaining to everyone that we have to think about the future of the human race and in order for the human race to grow at the top, it has to also grow at the bottom.
It can't have a rotten foundation and that's essentially when you deal with these These parts of the city where there's no getting out, man.
You're fucked.
Like this Rick Ross story.
He's 28 years old, can't fucking read.
How did he get through high school?
What happened to this poor fucking guy?
That rotten system has to somehow or another be fixed.
tait fletcher
The thing you're talking about, too, when you say it'll be fucked up for a while, there's not an epic downside.
It's like everybody will be fed, clothed, and taken care of.
But where we're going now, that's not fucking happening.
Those divisions are getting greater and greater.
And it's like, at the same time, if there's no separation between you, me, the dude in India, or the fucking pot that he's fucking trying to make with his hands, and we're all the same shit, those divisions hurt me.
joe rogan
Yeah, they definitely hurt us.
And there could be reconstruction money just like there's reconstruction money in Iraq.
There's reconstruction money in Iraq.
They could make money by first of all hiring excellent counselors.
They could fucking set up businesses where these kids can be trained in like trades and shit.
Where you can set them up where they always have a place to sleep so nobody is ever threatened.
Their life is never threatened.
They're never scared.
If you can't go to your neighborhood, you can't come home, you can come here.
This motherfucker is guarded 24 hours a day.
We have armed cops here.
We have plenty of food.
Come on in.
And there's no shame in this.
And we're just going to have to ask you to contribute a little bit.
You come in here and use a bed.
Maybe you've got to wash a couple of dishes or maybe you've got to put some stuff away.
Real simple.
You don't have to work all day.
Maybe put in 20. You know what I mean?
Have it set up so somebody gets a value for what they do.
And then have people who can teach them shit.
tait fletcher
Because that's the same shit with the wedding.
The welfare system.
unidentified
Yes.
tait fletcher
Is that you give it to them.
Nobody values that shit.
And so they don't feel that merited.
They feel lower self-esteem.
You know what I mean?
The whole shit cycles.
But what you're talking about is that people that were in power had a desire to do that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
I mean, right now you can look in somebody's ass in prison and it's the richest drug community ever.
And they talk about we don't want drugs.
joe rogan
Really?
tait fletcher
You don't?
Because I'm pretty sure you're thriving off of it.
joe rogan
You're looking at people's asses.
tait fletcher
By making my mom scared.
By putting more public money into fucking the DEA. Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a weird situation.
It's totally illogical.
If you look at the way human beings have set up our society and the way we treat impoverished neighborhoods and the way we deal with ridiculous laws and victimless crimes where people rot away in jail for dozens of...
You know, pages upon pages of cases, even recently, of people going to jail for long stretches under questionable circumstances.
And there's stories where people were set up by government agents.
That's the other thing you have to think about.
When you're working for the DEA or you're working for the FBI, you've got to arrest people.
You've got to bust crimes.
You gotta actually get things done.
And one of the ways to get things done is to talk someone into doing some crime.
Talk them into doing some crime and then arrest them.
And that's not illegal.
And that's crazy.
Because you could talk people into sucking your dick.
You could talk people into jumping in front of trains.
You could talk a whole bunch of people into killing themselves because of fucking comets coming.
And there's a UFO behind it.
You could talk people into anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't tell me that a smart cop who makes a living being an undercover agent...
So that means a person who thrives under pressure is really good at lying and manipulating people.
Really good at lying and manipulating people.
Enough so that he can hang around with the enemy and they think he's one of them.
You tell me this guy can't talk someone and doing some shit that they would never do?
Of course he can.
So he's essentially creating crime and then arresting people for doing that crime.
That's insanity.
tait fletcher
They pay people to keep doing crime.
I mean, when I was a kid, I worked for this guy, and maybe he'd crossed a couple state lines or something.
He ended up doing about nine years behind it, but the way he got set up and pinched was because his cousin...
Worked for the police and they'd give him blow.
And they would fucking go and say, just stay in the game.
And so there's a bunch of dudes that are just pieces of shit.
They're like, stay in the game.
Stay in the game.
So he's selling dope.
They know that.
He's doing all kinds of crime.
But he's going, hey, Lyle, I need to get two keys from you.
And then he's like, yeah, come on over.
And he comes over.
Next thing, there's a door kicker in.
And so it's like that shit happened.
And that's just little shit that I know from my personal life from fucking 20 years ago.
It's like, what's really going on?
On a big level, it's like...
joe rogan
Come on.
People would not want to believe that that is the case, but that's what happened with Whitey Bulger.
When I was a kid and I lived in Boston, Whitey Bulger was the scariest guy in Boston.
He was the number one gangster in Boston.
You were talking about a guy who won the lottery twice.
tait fletcher
Irish crime boss.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He won the lottery twice.
I mean, if that's not just ruthless...
tait fletcher
Yeah.
joe rogan
That motherfucker won the lottery twice.
I mean, he was just a straight criminal, okay?
He killed a bunch of people.
And, turns out, he was working for the FBI the whole time.
So the FBI would give him information.
He would kill people.
The FBI would okay it.
tait fletcher
So that's like The Departed.
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Based on him.
Based on him.
Based on Whitey Bulger.
Yeah, they just arrested him.
tait fletcher
In Santa Monica, right?
joe rogan
Yes, just a little while ago.
A year or two ago.
tait fletcher
Had a couple hundred grand in a little apartment up there.
joe rogan
Yep, yep.
And they were looking for that guy forever, man.
They were looking for him for longer.
He was living modest, man.
Just trying to stay on the DL in Santa Monica.
tait fletcher
Yeah, him and his old lady.
They got pinched up there.
joe rogan
I don't know why the fuck he thought people wouldn't recognize him.
And they actually got him because someone recognized the girl.
tait fletcher
Really?
joe rogan
They recognized his girlfriend.
They had all these photos of his girlfriend.
They put photos of his girlfriend everywhere.
And someone in the neighborhood recognized the girlfriend from some TV show.
tait fletcher
I don't know why.
I guess he couldn't get out of the country, huh?
joe rogan
Well, I don't know.
I guess he was fighting with the chick, too.
Like, screaming and yelling.
And that's like, it would turn people on to them.
There was some fucking violent altercation, a lot of yelling.
And so that got people to tune into them, and then the lady recognized her.
I might be butchering the story.
But the bottom line is that guy was a fucking undercover agent for the FBI as well as the number one crime figure in Boston.
That's crazy.
tait fletcher
And not just some crime, but murdering and setting up massacres.
joe rogan
How are those FBI guys not in jail?
tait fletcher
I know.
joe rogan
How are they not in jail?
If they're still alive, how are they not in jail?
How is it not an investigation?
tait fletcher
Those dudes, who was it, the guy right after the Oklahoma City bombing?
joe rogan
Timothy McVeigh?
tait fletcher
Yeah, but the guy they capped, who was like a white separatist or something up in the mountains.
joe rogan
Oh, Ruby Ridge?
tait fletcher
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I think that's before that, wasn't it?
tait fletcher
It was right after on the heels when they just went to vilify all the militias.
William Friedman was the FBI agent.
joe rogan
I think Ruby Ridge was from 92. Ruby Ridge was 92 and Oklahoma City was 93 or 94. I think I was living here.
When was the Oklahoma Obama?
unidentified
Oklahoma Obama.
tait fletcher
Oklahoma.
joe rogan
It looks like the real...
I'm sorry, here.
Oklahoma City bombing, it was...
tait fletcher
And Ruby Ridge, they killed that guy, Randy Weaver, was it?
And they killed him and his kids?
joe rogan
Yeah, Ruby Ridge was later.
You know, there's a lot of fucking conspiracy with the Oklahoma City bombing.
There's all these news reports that said that the FBI pulled out many bombs, more than one, multiple bombs from the building that hadn't exploded.
And if you look at the damage that's done to the building, apparently demolitions experts say that the building blew out.
It didn't blow in.
So if you're saying that a car was parked that did that, they're saying no.
The demolitions experts are saying no, this is something that blew out.
It was detonated from the inside and it blew outward.
And so there's a lot of people that think that there must have been something more than just Timothy McVeigh's efforts.
tait fletcher
And weren't all the agents cleared out?
Like they killed some kids in daycare or something like that?
joe rogan
Yeah, the agents were cleared out.
They knew about something in advance.
They were evacuated, which is really sick when you just think about that.
Like, why didn't you evacuate the whole building?
What the fuck is going on?
tait fletcher
Because we needed collateral damage.
joe rogan
Well, it's because they also had to make sure that it actually happened.
If the guy pulls up in his truck and everyone's out of the building, you know, and there's fire trucks everywhere, he's like, oh, fuck this job and leaves.
So, I don't know.
That's speculation.
tait fletcher
I thought it was weird that Timothy McVeigh goes to his grave without ever making a statement ever.
joe rogan
Well, the thing is that the fertilizer bomb experts, I guess there actually are those, they say that this is not indicative of the damage that one of those things is capable of doing.
There's not that much pop.
This is some crazy shit.
If you look at the building, half the building's missing.
It's like the whole front just blew out.
tait fletcher
You know what I mean?
It's like if you're in a pickup truck or whatever, if you have gunpowder and you put it in your palm and you light it, poof, it poofs.
But if you wrap that fucker in tinfoil, kaboom!
Or a pipe bomb.
If you ever fuck with explosives, you need it wrapped in a certain way for it to go.
It's not just going to be sitting in a truck and have a huge magnanimous kind of explosion.
unidentified
Tate, are you an explosive vexer?
tait fletcher
I've gotten that way a little bit just because of my work lately.
I've been going like...
How is this bomb wrapped?
How close can I get to that?
Like on Avengers, we had a lot of bombs going off down the middle of the street.
And so you had to get within a certain distance of it.
But then I found out about wraps and how they were...
How they really changed the nature of the explosion.
And I blew a couple things up when I was a kid, but I didn't really know much about it.
If that's what you're getting at, Brian.
unidentified
No, I just like to...
brian redban
You look like an explosive expert.
tait fletcher
That's my beard.
joe rogan
Yeah, you do.
It's a weird thing, man.
It seems like every event that happens, no matter what it is, has a gang of conspiracy theories attached to it.
tait fletcher
What do you think about the Batman thing?
Like when they're like, that kid's a broke college student, how do you get 30 grand worth of fucking equipment?
joe rogan
Student loans.
Student loans.
tait fletcher
That cuts that one right out.
So government funded, you're saying?
You're saying it is government funded.
joe rogan
His therapist was not surprised.
That kid was apparently exhibiting some very troublesome issues.
I'm not buying the idea that you could program someone to do that without spending a fuckload of time with them.
I've heard that this kid was involved in an area that had something.
He was a fucking PhD student, right?
Wasn't he?
tait fletcher
He was going to get a doctorate.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is a really brilliant kid who's worked really hard.
tait fletcher
About the same age as the Columbine kids.
joe rogan
Well, those kids were a lot of that was linked to antidepressants, you know?
tait fletcher
So, both in Colorado.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's true.
tait fletcher
There's a lot of links here.
A lot of Christians in Colorado.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a little of that.
A lot of wackiness.
Yeah, it's true.
A lot of people believe stories there.
Especially Colorado Springs.
tait fletcher
Yep.
joe rogan
But there's also, like, not that much air.
Maybe that's not good for you.
My wife was pregnant up there, man.
It was fucking hard to watch her, man.
It's like she had the flu.
And then when she came back, when we moved back to California, boom!
Instantly, she was 50% better.
tait fletcher
Really?
joe rogan
Yep.
Yeah, you're not really supposed to live where the air's that thin.
tait fletcher
I can't imagine having a fucking baby, man.
That would be crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's pretty fucking crazy.
tait fletcher
Can you imagine carrying that in your own body?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like the whole thing that women go through?
unidentified
I thought you meant giving birth.
joe rogan
Well, that too.
You think you'd like to give birth?
unidentified
I think it'd be sweet.
Can you imagine?
tait fletcher
That would be the easy part.
unidentified
Can you imagine having a human come out of you?
joe rogan
It's insane.
I've seen it happen twice.
It's the strangest thing ever, man.
It's the strangest thing ever.
But they have a lot of premature births in Colorado.
Because of that air.
I think it's one of the number one places in the country that has premature births.
Because there's no fucking air up there.
tait fletcher
I hear the actresses do it in Hollywood a lot so that they don't get stretched out.
They get them a month or two before they're ready to pop and they just cut them out.
joe rogan
Who the fuck does that?
unidentified
Explosive.
joe rogan
Who do you know?
tait fletcher
You gotta stay hot.
unidentified
Explosive.
tait fletcher
That's so crazy.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
tait fletcher
Keep that body viable.
joe rogan
Well, some girls do get really bad stretch marks.
It's just genetics.
Some girls don't get nothing.
It's weird.
Some girls, they have one baby and you're done, son.
tait fletcher
And they have them young.
joe rogan
Yeah, that can happen too.
tait fletcher
Dude, we just got back from Louisiana.
Everybody's got a baby.
But everybody looks like they're 12 years old anyway.
It's like you're in 98% humidity all the fucking time.
It's like you're living in water almost, like in an aquarium.
It's just like a couple degrees off of the air just turning to water.
joe rogan
It's really good for your skin, right?
tait fletcher
It's fucking crazy.
It feels great.
My joints felt great.
Really?
I got fucked shoulders and everything.
I felt good.
I worked out every day.
Everything felt awesome.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Maybe we should move to Louisiana.
Test Squad Louisiana, you down?
unidentified
No.
tait fletcher
I don't think you want to.
joe rogan
Dude, New Orleans!
Don't you like Mardi Gras?
Hurricanes.
unidentified
Good to visit.
tait fletcher
Good to visit.
joe rogan
The zombies out there.
tait fletcher
A lot of guys just murdering people right in front of the cops just for nothing.
joe rogan
They got a thing they call misdemeanor murder in the outside of Louisiana, or in Louisiana, outside of New Orleans.
They have so many people in jail.
That if they don't officially try you for something, if they don't officially charge you with something within 30 days, they have to release you.
So guys get arrested for murder, and they just can't get to them.
So they just let them out.
Because there's so many motherfuckers in jail.
That's crazy.
And so once they get used to popping people...
I might have butchered that thing, but I know that there's a term called misdemeanor murder.
I might have butchered whatever the actual reason they let them out so quickly is.
But they don't get charged.
They just...
It's nuts.
Oh, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
There was a lot of reports of really crazy shit going down in the days post-Katrina.
tait fletcher
Right.
I bet.
joe rogan
The cops were just fucking jacking people everywhere, just taking people out.
There was all sorts of breaking in and looting and a lot of vigilantism.
unidentified
I couldn't imagine.
tait fletcher
You drive around Bourbon Street, drive around the French Quarter...
And it's like, it's kind of hazy.
You expect Jack the Ripper to come out from around the corner.
Like, that's where that motherfucker lives.
Like, anybody could get got there at any time, it feels like.
joe rogan
You should have a passport to go to New Orleans.
You really should.
tait fletcher
But it's beautiful.
Everybody's...
joe rogan
Oh, it's amazing.
tait fletcher
At the other time, everybody's so fucking sweet.
They're kind of, oh, honey, how you doing?
It's like, you can't walk down and everybody's going to smile at you, ask you how you're doing, and they're going to give a fuck.
They're going to be genuine.
It's...
Crazy friendly, too.
joe rogan
We had a great limo driver.
He was the shit, this guy.
He was really cool as fuck, man.
He took us around New Orleans.
He's from New Orleans.
He was telling us stories about the one time we moved out of New Orleans.
He came out of a store, and he's sitting there drinking a beer.
And the cop pulled up, and the cop's like, you want to tell us what you're doing?
I said, oh yeah, man, a friend's going to meet me, I'm just having a beer.
And he goes, are you really so fucking stupid that you're drinking this beer in front of me?
Like, he kept drinking it, and he's like, what the fuck is wrong?
Like, what's wrong?
He goes, where are you from?
And the guy goes, New Orleans.
And he goes, okay, let me tell you.
The way they do things down there, it's not like anywhere in the world.
You can't just, I'm telling you this because I know that you don't know because you're from New Orleans, and I've talked to people from New Orleans before.
I just gotta tell you, you're not allowed to drink in public.
Like, that's alien to them.
You could drink everywhere in New Orleans.
But really, that's the way it should be, man.
You should be able to drink anywhere.
You should be able to drink anywhere you want.
You have to have another house somewhere.
You have to have a house in a fucking cave somewhere.
tait fletcher
Dude, if you don't have an idea about what life is like anywhere else, it's fucking...
I walk down Bourbon Street, I'm like, did they just get everybody fucked up at the Walmart and put them in too tight of clothes and then get a party bus and dump them all off here?
It's fucking nutty.
joe rogan
It's weird.
Yeah, a guy gave me a laser pointer.
He goes, man, I want you to have this.
I go, what is it?
It's a laser pointer.
I go, why do you want me to have it?
Man, I think you're cool, dude.
I want you to have my laser pointer.
Okay, thanks, man.
He just had to give me something.
He wanted to give me something.
Man, I fucking love you on that show.
Here's your laser pointer.
tait fletcher
That's awesome.
joe rogan
It's like, this is so bizarre.
A laser pointer.
And everywhere you go, it's like, strip club bar, strip club bar, strip club bar.
tait fletcher
Live sex show.
Live sex show advertised in the street.
Come on in.
joe rogan
Watch people fuck.
tait fletcher
I didn't have the heart to go in.
I wanted to.
I wanted to.
And like 4% of me wanted...
And I'm like, I just can't do it.
joe rogan
I'll tell you what, dude.
It was a beautiful place to do stand-up comedy.
That is a beautiful place to do stand-up comedy.
I might have to type my next special.
After I release the Atlanta one, I might have to take my next one in New Orleans.
tait fletcher
Do it early in the day or they'll be too fucked up.
joe rogan
No, man, I had a regular nighttime show.
It was great.
tait fletcher
You know, every weekend they have a huge party.
Really?
Like they have a red dress run.
Everybody throws on a red dress and fucking runs like a fucking half mile.
But it's like a moving cocktail party, basically.
Happens in the morning, goes all the way to tonight.
Or they had a running of the bulls that I did.
It was awesome.
I put some videos on Facebook, but it was like all these roller derby girls from surrounding states will come there.
They'll all put on red.
Yeah, red, and they'll put horns on their helmets and shit, and they'll have wiffle ball bats, and they'll be the bulls of Pamplona, and they'll be beating motherfuckers.
Everybody's dressed in white.
I had on a tutu.
It was awesome.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
tait fletcher
Big beard, tutu.
joe rogan
That is so fun.
tait fletcher
Yeah, it's crazy.
Anything for a party there, man.
I was in the strip bar and there's a fucking Mexican chick comes up and we're talking and she's like, yeah, I'm from Tucson originally, blah, blah, blah.
Cool, cool, cool.
It's just like everybody's twisted a little bit there.
And she goes, hey, I'm going to this, you want to come with me this weekend?
I'm going to go to this music festival that my best friend's band he's playing in.
I said, oh, awesome.
She's like, what kind of music do you like?
I'm like, you know, whatever.
and like usually with strippers it's like ACDC or Lil Wayne.
It's like something in that genre is what you're thinking.
And she's like, "Yeah, it's a neo-Nazi punk show." And I said, excuse me?
And she's like, it's a neo-Nazi punk show.
I'm like, your best friend's band?
And she's like, yeah.
And I'm like, and you're Mexican?
And she's like, yeah.
I'm like...
I'm too confused and there's no way I wouldn't get killed.
I'd hear one conversation and then it would be just like a boot party on me.
Like there'd be 15 little skinny dudes with fucking steel-toed boots kicking my face in.
These are confused folks.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
Yeah, there's a lot of that going on in this country too.
They said that something like 50% of the country believes in the biblical tale of creation and that the earth is less than 10,000 years old.
50%.
I don't know how they estimate that.
unidentified
That seems low.
tait fletcher
They can't point to where a state is either.
Show us Florida.
They're like, I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, if I didn't fly around a lot, I might not know either.
I can't explain to you where the fuck South Dakota is.
You asked me to pinpoint that motherfucker.
tait fletcher
It's right below North Dakota.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I wouldn't find that fucker either.
I don't know where that shit is.
I barely know where Ohio is, and I love Ohio.
But places that I don't go to, shit, I don't know.
I don't know where the fuck they are.
Where's Wyoming?
Where the fuck is that?
tait fletcher
North.
joe rogan
Yeah, but try to find it.
unidentified
I'm the same way.
There's only a few places.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's places that I've never been.
Like, Wyoming's one of them.
Montana's another one.
I don't know where the fuck they are, man.
tait fletcher
I'd like to go there, but I don't want to stay there very fucking long.
joe rogan
It seems desolate.
Montana's beautiful.
I'm going hunting in Montana.
Really?
tait fletcher
For what?
joe rogan
Me and Brian Callen.
We're going hunting for deer with this guy, Steve Ranella.
He's the author of this show, The Meat Eater.
And I've been wanting to go hunting forever.
I've been saying I want to do it for years to the point where people are getting annoyed at me for saying it.
But it's true.
I'm like, look, I eat meat.
I should be responsible for killing at least one animal that I eat, you know?
tait fletcher
You never killed an animal?
joe rogan
No, just fish.
unidentified
Crazy.
joe rogan
Never killed an animal.
Yeah.
tait fletcher
We grew up, that's all, yeah, that's all we did.
unidentified
Just murdering puppies and shit.
tait fletcher
Yeah, we just killed, my first kill was a Doberman.
unidentified
So...
joe rogan
You killed a topo?
By rape.
unidentified
By rape.
tait fletcher
No, but everybody in Michigan, we grew up hunting deer, shooting deer.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's so many in Michigan.
tait fletcher
I mean, fuck, I've got friends that we would stop, like straight hillbillies, man, and they'd stop on the side of the road because there's deer that get hit by cars all the time.
unidentified
They're good.
tait fletcher
They're steady killing people.
They'll jump out.
If the guts aren't exploded, they'll go gut them.
Take out their heart, tenderloins, and then bounce.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what a lot of people do.
Crazy.
But it's a food source.
This Steve Rinella guy, on one of his shows, they found a good deer that was shot and killed.
And the only thing that was taken was the back straps.
That's it.
They just took the back straps and left the rest of the body.
And I'm like, wow, that's kind of fucking crazy.
tait fletcher
Best part of the deer.
joe rogan
It's the best part of the deer, but that's really ruthless.
That's fucked up.
You know, just drag it to a butcher shop, you lazy bitch.
You know, venison sausage is delicious.
tait fletcher
Dude, the whole thing is rad.
I would take that shit, like, right when I'd shoot a deer, just because the people that I'd hunt with, if you left it there, like, you didn't drag it all the way back to camp, hang it up, skin it and all that yet, they'd go and steal your heart and back straps.
They'd steal all the tenderloins, they'd steal all the best parts, all the best cuts of the meat.
unidentified
Really?
tait fletcher
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's fucked up.
tait fletcher
Wow.
joe rogan
Rude, bitches.
unidentified
Fucking deer ass.
joe rogan
Yeah, apparently it's common that people find a deer that someone shot but couldn't find.
Because a lot of times you find them, the blood trails get out, so people will put their own tag on it and pretend they killed it.
tait fletcher
Dude, I've hit a deer with a.30-06 right through the heart, like found it later, obliterates the heart.
One shot, runs 250 yards.
You know what I mean?
It's like a gut shot deer or something like that.
They go fucking...
And then people go to find them too soon and then they jump them and they'll just keep running and you'll never get that deer.
joe rogan
Did you see these photos of Matt Hughes in Africa?
He went on an African safari and killed everything in Africa and took pictures of it and put it on Facebook or something like that or his website and there's just this crazy reaction to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and there's this, you know, people are really mad at them.
It's kind of a funny situation with those, killing those animals that you don't eat, because although there's something fucked up about killing an animal and not eating it, period.
But then they do donate the money, or they do donate the food, rather, to tribes who need it.
unidentified
And so the food does get used.
joe rogan
That's true.
That's a good point.
tait fletcher
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
He didn't shoot any tigers.
He only shot antelopes and stuff like that.
unidentified
And zebras.
joe rogan
Yeah, his son shot a zebra.
unidentified
Here's the photos.
brian redban
That's kind of crazy, though.
joe rogan
But here's the other part of it.
When you go on these hunts, which is essentially like hunting in a fucking zoo.
It's like a wildlife preserve.
When you go on these hunts, the money goes to conservation.
So it actually helps these animals stay, like, maintained.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Because otherwise, poachers, and there'd be no way to stop all the people from, you know, going after animals that they can profit from, like rhinos and shit like that.
tait fletcher
Or essentially, zebra.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They've essentially made rhinos almost extinct.
Like, some rhinos are extinct, and they've gotten extinct in our lifetime.
So this...
Controlled hunting actually keeps a lot of those animals alive, so it's really ironic.
tait fletcher
There's two parts of that, though, for me.
Like, I go, if you really care about the animals, then just give them your fucking money.
You know what I mean?
Like, donate some fucking money then, dickhead.
joe rogan
Well, that's the other thing is that, no, you actually have to kill some of them.
tait fletcher
But in Michigan, that's so true.
You get lie disease and shit like that.
Like, the animals will start to disease themselves if they're overpopulated.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
And so the DNR goes and they count them and they know what's happening and they issue so many permits or whatever.
But I don't think that's happening with...
I mean, maybe it is.
I don't know what the Conservancy is in Africa.
But, you know, in places like that, do you need to kill that many of them?
joe rogan
I think they do in certain areas.
You have to make...
Look, unless you have an abundance of cats...
You're gonna have to have something that controls the population, and they don't want to have an abundance of cats.
That's dangerous as fuck.
So in these wildlife preserves, I'm pretty sure they have to kill a lot of them.
I think they have to do it, unless they're fucking around where there's lions and tigers and zebra.
Yeah, right?
I think we do.
tait fletcher
Not enough.
joe rogan
Not enough.
tait fletcher
We got a sick gene pool.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a little bit broken.
But, again, it's a little bit broken when you think about the fact there's 300 plus million of us just in this spot.
I think if you look at us worldwide, I mean, it's pretty astonishing, like, person to person, how good we have it here in the United States.
tait fletcher
I think we're going to get better.
joe rogan
Yeah, we are getting better.
tait fletcher
I mean, we're moving up.
Like, when I talk, like, I don't know, I talk a lot about, like...
Lately, I'm doing this thing, this Whole Life Challenge.
joe rogan
What is that?
tait fletcher
It's like this thing off this website, wholelifechallenge.com.
We started it down at a place I work out here called CrossFit LA in Santa Monica.
Three years ago, I guess.
This is the third year.
And it started with like 40 people doing it, and now there's like 9,000 people doing it, but it's an accountability program that speaks to nutrition, mobility, exercise, consciousness, what your daily life is like, learning something new this week, kind of a holistic look at your life, you know, and just kind of tightening the game of like whatever it is for you.
Part of the thing, like last week, was find out you can't eat anything fried in canola oil.
You can only eat basically a paleo-ish diet, like no dairy, no artificial sweeteners, all that kind of stuff.
And so you'd have a lot of conversations if you go out to dinner.
What are your sweet potato fries fried in or whatever?
If it's canola oil, no good.
Duck fat would be awesome.
Grape seed oil, awesome.
But...
You know, so shit like that, but doing it for the last three years and talking to people, and I talk to people about diet and nutrition a whole bunch, people are hip to it now.
Whereas before, like three years ago, people were like, motherfucker, he's a pain in my ass.
And now people are like, oh yeah, this is gluten-free, and this is, is your chorizo made with any kind of wheat or any kind of sugars?
No, no, we make it in the back, and da-da-da.
It's fucking rad, the conversations.
There does seem to be a coming together of all these things.
joe rogan
Well, definitely we're being more informed about diet.
tait fletcher
And that's the internet.
joe rogan
Gluten-free.
Yeah, that is the internet.
100% right.
Gluten-free.
Nobody was fucking gluten-free just 10 years ago.
I never heard that shit.
tait fletcher
No way.
joe rogan
That was really rare to hear.
brian redban
Now I can order a pizza on my phone.
joe rogan
Yeah, everything is fucking gluten-free.
Everywhere you go, it's weird.
Well, we're realizing the impact nutrition has on the real realistic impact it has on your health.
When you see someone who eats healthy and you see someone who doesn't and you see the difference, it's pretty palpable.
There's no getting around it.
And when you try it yourself and you realize how much better you feel and you start...
I do kale shakes every morning.
I have this thing that I'm doing and now I got a lot of people doing it because they I can't tell you how many people that are running to.
tait fletcher
You do a Gooser?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, Blender.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
I've got a Vitamix.
The Blendtec is supposed to be the shit.
They actually blended an iPhone in it.
unidentified
Blendtec?
joe rogan
Yeah, check it.
Yeah, there's a video.
Go Google it, because it's ridiculous.
They blended a fucking...
This blender is so bad, they blended a phone.
I mean, it's a blender that can blend other blenders.
It's ridiculous.
And the idea is that it makes these smoothies, because it cuts through ice like butter.
tait fletcher
So my friend's into the Goosin'.
He loves it, but he says there's different kinds of juicers, and one that heats it up, and then that ruins all the nutrients.
And so there's like cold juicing or something like that.
joe rogan
Cold pressing is good, but I'm not talking about juicing.
I'm talking about making smoothies out of shit.
You eat all, the whole food, not just the juice.
Check this Blendtec shit out.
You got half a screen, son.
There it goes.
Look at this dork.
Check this shit out.
unidentified
I don't know why there's no sound.
tait fletcher
God damn it, Brian.
joe rogan
Oh, because you got the sound off?
It's not working.
tait fletcher
This is my favorite sticker over here.
Oh, Brian.
joe rogan
That gets said a lot.
Why is there no volume?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Figure it out, bitch.
unidentified
That's weird.
tait fletcher
I can't believe you're talking about the Galaxy's better than the iPhone, huh?
joe rogan
It's better looking.
To me, for going online and looking at stuff.
Same kind of strip screen.
For looking at Twitter.
Yeah, it's all touchscreen.
It's beautiful.
tait fletcher
I'd like that to be bigger because I have fucking fingers like toes.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Me too.
Watch this.
He's going to blend a fucking phone.
This is crazy shit, man.
Watch this.
tait fletcher
He better drink it.
unidentified
Watch this shit.
joe rogan
Do it, bitch.
Hit the button.
Stop talking.
Watch this.
Look at that.
He blended a fucking phone into powder.
brian redban
It was a 4S, so it doesn't make me sad.
joe rogan
But dude, how incredible is that?
That blender blended a fucking phone into powder.
Look at that shit.
unidentified
That's gross.
joe rogan
That's insane.
unidentified
Can you imagine drinking that?
tait fletcher
How smart would you be?
joe rogan
Not that smart.
unidentified
Put a little almond milk in that.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
Look at these.
I bet that's toxic as fuck.
unidentified
Ugh.
Dude, he shouldn't be inhaling that, right?
Look at that!
joe rogan
Look what that became.
unidentified
That's amazing.
joe rogan
That's insane.
You know what?
That's what the universe is going to do to your iPhone anyway.
That right there is a perfect description why we can't find shit from advanced civilizations from 15, 20,000 years ago.
tait fletcher
It's called the Sahara.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's called the eraser of the world, which is glaciers.
Glaciers are like set up as like if the world was an etch-a-sketch.
Glaciers are the big shake.
Because they come down and they literally smush everything in their place.
When you're dealing with a glacier, a lot of people think, oh, well, it's ice and the ice is...
No, no, no, no, no.
It's a mile-high motherfucking mountain of ice that's moving.
And it only moves like a little bit every year.
But it crushes everything in front of it.
tait fletcher
It's hard to think about how big that is, a mile-high.
joe rogan
Well, North America was covered in a glacier that was a mile-high just 10,000 years ago.
Just 10,000 years ago.
tait fletcher
They talk about they had sea fish that they find skeletons of in Denver, which is a mile high already, and that was under the sea?
joe rogan
Yeah.
What the fuck, man?
They found Lake Ontario.
We were in Toronto this past weekend, and you fly over it.
I've only flown over the Great Lakes a couple of times, so you really get to look at it.
You're like, why am I at the ocean?
How is this the ocean in the middle of the country?
But it's an ocean.
You can call it a lake all you want.
That fucking thing is huge.
And that's not even the biggest one.
There's way bigger ones.
There's giant ass lakes.
And what those are is they used to be glaciers.
And they melted.
I mean, you wrap your head around it.
It really hurts.
It hurts to think that this spot wasn't even livable.
tait fletcher
Well, and when you think about all of humanity and how long...
We're a blip.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're nothing.
tait fletcher
This isn't going to last.
joe rogan
But we're so clinging to our house on the Malibu beach.
This is here forever.
This is a family heirloom.
You're on the most unstable part of the world.
tait fletcher
Or where we think it's going.
joe rogan
It's going to be covered in ice.
The whole thing's going to cover again.
The whole world is constantly rolling like that.
tait fletcher
Did you hear about that kid?
joe rogan
The climate shifts.
tait fletcher
No, not the kid.
The polar bear?
Yeah.
Came off of a cap in Greenland, I believe, and fucking floated to Iceland and took out a troop of fucking Boy Scouts.
What?
The fucking polar bear on a fucking ice cap that breaks off.
He's fucked.
He floats.
He's at sea for God knows how long.
And he comes up on some fucking Boy Scouts and killed like, I don't know, 12 of them or something like that.
He wiped them out.
Crazy.
joe rogan
When did this happen?
tait fletcher
I think last year.
I just had a friend that did a show in Iceland and they're like, it's crazy.
That's a beautiful spot.
I'd love to go there.
joe rogan
Yeah, Iceland's amazing, but fuck polar bears.
tait fletcher
Man, they're trippy.
joe rogan
That's scary.
tait fletcher
They come out like crocodiles or like great whites, like a predator.
They come out as a predator.
joe rogan
Do you remember when we were in Denver?
And one of the times we were in Denver, there was a guy, I think you were there, he came down to the show.
He's a local comic, and he's also, forgive me, I forget the guy's name.
He's Fitzgerald?
Kevin Fitzgerald?
I think that's it.
He's also a veterinarian.
So he was talking to us about like little baby polar bears.
They come out, he said like aliens.
Like the movie The Alien.
They come out like...
unidentified
Just trying to chew.
tait fletcher
Full teeth.
joe rogan
Yeah, full teeth.
It's crazy, dude.
tait fletcher
It's a tough world they live in, man.
Just on the LA News, there was like a mile out.
It wasn't even that far out off of Santa Monica.
There was like a 30-foot Great White.
unidentified
Jesus.
tait fletcher
I see babies a lot out in the bay, like out at Point Doom and shit when we go surfing.
But they're babies.
They're 5 feet or 8 feet would be a bigger one.
But a fucking 30-foot Great White, fuck you.
joe rogan
You know, they said that off of Malibu is one of the richest breeding grounds for great whites in the country.
unidentified
That's where they drop them all.
Yeah.
tait fletcher
My friend was out, dude, he went out to the end of Point Doom, and he says a little five-footer, it hit his board, like, didn't quite hit his board, but the tail slap fucking blew him, like, it's crazy, dude.
joe rogan
Dude, that's so scary.
tait fletcher
You think of a little one, it's five feet long, but, like, how big that is and how much force, it's just a pure muscle.
joe rogan
It'll still kill you, yeah.
A little one will kill you.
A little one will kill you just as easy as a pit bull could kill you.
tait fletcher
Yep.
joe rogan
Yeah, that thing will kill you.
unidentified
Amazing.
joe rogan
They're so terrifying, man.
tait fletcher
So scary.
It's like you're out there in the water.
The first time I ever went surfing, dude's like, big sea lions come up.
They look like a huge fucking rottweiler.
And they make noise and shit, claws and teeth.
And you're like, holy fuck.
And then you see little porpoises or dolphins or whatever the fuck they are out there.
And I'm like, this is fucking rad.
I'm just sitting out there looking.
He's like, yeah, how does it feel to be in the middle of the food chain now?
I'm like...
Dude, if a bunch of fucking salmon came up and just started fucking attacking me, I would drown.
Like, I'm not in the middle.
I'm way at the fucking bottom.
If a bunch of crabs came up and just annoyed me enough to where I fell off this board, I would drown in time and they would all eat me.
Like, there's no chance I'm in the middle.
joe rogan
Yeah, if salmon were trying to jack you and knock you off that board, you wouldn't be able to stop them.
tait fletcher
You'd be done.
A bunch of tuna came up and fucking walked.
joe rogan
You'd be fucked.
Yeah, tunas are big, man.
tait fletcher
And then you think about what eats the sea lion.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
Because those are big, scary motherfuckers.
joe rogan
Sharks love them.
They yum, yum, yum.
tait fletcher
And they drop tons of great whites in there all the time.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I don't get the surfing thing.
I'm sure it's fantastic.
I might surf.
Maybe I would surf at that indoor place in Abu Dhabi.
I think they got like an indoor place.
tait fletcher
I'm sure they do.
joe rogan
Or Dubai, one of those places.
tait fletcher
You know, I'm going to play a Taliban guy, I think.
Yeah?
joe rogan
You a little worried about that, man?
tait fletcher
No, I'm good.
joe rogan
It better not be like this fucking Is Innocence of Muslims video.
That movie that's out?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
You know what's going on with that?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
joe rogan
You don't know?
tait fletcher
No.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
tait fletcher
I'm sorry, but I don't even know how bad Clint Eastwood fucked up.
joe rogan
What did he do with the GOP? Forget him.
A guy made a movie with a bunch of white people with blackface on, playing Muslims, and made it about Muhammad, and Muhammad being like a pedophile, and it's like, Really blasphemous.
So because of that, there was attacks on American embassies.
The American embassy in Libya got attacked.
tait fletcher
That was what it was from?
joe rogan
On September 11th.
And this one guy who was the American ambassador for Libya was killed in a rocket attack.
And then there's riots all over the world and YouTube was cut off by Iran and all these different places online where you could get this.
They were all cut out like you can't get to it online because there's so much dissent and so much revolt.
Over a video that one guy made.
Think about the fact that if you're being conservative, would you say 150,000 Iraqi civilians died because of the American attack?
That's being really nice.
It's probably way more than that.
Some people estimate it's as much as a million.
So let's say it's 100,000.
Let's be real nice.
They're freaking out about a bad movie, but they're not freaking out about 100,000 people being murdered.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, this movie, all these drone attacks that kill Pakistani soldiers.
tait fletcher
That's how crazy people are about their mythology.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's insane.
If you find the video, Brian, show some of the video of it because it does look almost that bad.
And then the other thing is that people think, the people inclined to conspiracy think that this was all done by the CIA and that they're trying to get us ready for this war.
tait fletcher
It doesn't come up on September 11th just because.
joe rogan
Exactly.
They're trying to get us ready for this war in Iran.
get the process moving along is to have these people revolt.
So they made this movie and apparently the movie was made and then they dubbed different lines into the people's mouths.
Like the woman said, that's not my voice and the actress who's playing the woman, she said, I never said those things.
They dubbed those things in afterwards, which also sounds like something the CIA would do.
Just get you to act in one thing and then make it like fucking ridiculously inflammatory.
Attach you to it.
Send you out there.
Boom, you got a movie.
The guy who was the person who made the movie is apparently the same guy who was burning the Quran.
He was involved in doing some shit with the Quran.
Is this it?
unidentified
Shut up, Rustem!
joe rogan
Is this the movie?
unidentified
I don't know.
I've never seen it before.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that is the movie?
Look at his face.
This can't be real.
Look how brown his face is.
Look, they didn't brown his neck.
Oh my god.
This is the worst movie that's ever been made.
Look at his beard.
A battle axe.
Yo, look at his beard, man.
That is crazy.
unidentified
That's no beard.
joe rogan
That's the best beard ever.
That's the best fake beard ever, because they didn't even try.
Look at his fake beard.
These motherfuckers have Halloween beards on.
Set the place on fire.
unidentified
Oh, no!
joe rogan
Look at his beard, dude.
Look at that beard.
tait fletcher
Holy fuck.
joe rogan
Oh my god, he just...
tait fletcher
She had a cross on.
He had to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he just attacked this hot chick with a battle axe because she had a cross on.
unidentified
She's on mice.
tait fletcher
Whoa.
What country are we in there?
joe rogan
This is an unbelievably bad movie.
tait fletcher
Because that was the hottest Arabic chick I ever saw.
unidentified
I know.
She wasn't.
joe rogan
Yeah, she was a Christian though.
That's why she's super hot.
tait fletcher
I can't forgive that.
joe rogan
That was the worst movie ever.
Just that scene.
I couldn't...
Even if for the rest of the movie was like, you know...
tait fletcher
Team America was more realistic.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was one of the worst movies of all time.
If the rest of the movie was Apocalypse Now, that movie still sucks.
You know, you can't have a scene that bad ever in a movie.
If I saw that in the best movie ever, if that was like five minutes of American Werewolf in London, you'd be like, what the fuck am I watching?
What the fuck kind of piece of shit movie is this?
There's levels.
And that motherfucker who made that movie is no Stanley Kubrick.
That's all I'm saying.
The fucking guy had brown face only on his face and not on his neck.
This is a movie, Tate Fletcher.
tait fletcher
No attention to excellence.
joe rogan
Tate Fletcher, this shit is not real.
This is a goddamn movie.
We're living in a movie.
We're in a simulation.
Shit like this is just little pieces of evidence that's allowing us to wake up and realize this is not real.
It's not real, Tate.
It's not real.
But this coffee's real good, man.
unidentified
Dude, this coffee's amazing.
So how do you actually do it?
You said it was like butter and...
joe rogan
It's bulletproof coffee.
tait fletcher
If you want a full explanation, you gotta go to bulletproofexec.com.
joe rogan
That guy's going to be on the podcast in a couple weeks.
unidentified
It's delicious.
joe rogan
His name is Dave Asprey.
tait fletcher
Yeah, yeah.
You're going to have him here.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
He's going to be here on the...
unidentified
Dude, that's fucking wicked.
tait fletcher
I'm such a fan.
Everything I tag is butter or bulletproof or fucking...
I love the fucking guy.
I'm all over his shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
He...
I don't know.
There's him in conjunction with the dude that wrote The Primal Diet, this guy Mark Sisson, who you should have him on.
He's badass.
joe rogan
I would love to.
We had Rob Wolf on.
tait fletcher
Rob's a good dude, huh?
He worked out at my gym for a while.
He was at Undisputed when he was in Santa Fe.
His old lady was finishing up a program there.
joe rogan
You tried to get me to go from kale shakes to bacon and eggs.
I tried it for a little while.
tait fletcher
Seems like a good idea.
joe rogan
It is a good idea.
No, it doesn't give you the same.
tait fletcher
It's all this, baby.
Yes.
joe rogan
It doesn't give you the same amount of energy.
It's a totally different experience.
It tastes good.
tait fletcher
You throw in a little bit of Bulletproof coffee and you'll have that same energy all day long, son.
joe rogan
Ridiculous.
tait fletcher
No, you gotta try this.
joe rogan
Gotta keep drinking it all day.
It's caffeine.
tait fletcher
What's wrong with that?
What's wrong with that?
unidentified
Then you crashed.
joe rogan
At the end of the day.
tait fletcher
No, you do not.
You know when you crash?
When it's time to go to sleep.
And you know what I want to do at that time?
I want to crash.
unidentified
You just switched to Jack Daniels.
Off the butter coffee.
joe rogan
What evidence is there that coffee actually is bad for you?
Is there any?
I mean, I know that if you go too hard, it fucks your adrenals up, right?
tait fletcher
Here's the deal.
And you'll talk to Dave a lot about it, but he talks about the mycotoxins, the oxytoxins that are all in the blends of coffee.
And molds attached to coffee beans all the time.
And so especially if you're getting them from Starbucks or places like that, like you ever drink a cup of coffee and then all of a sudden you feel like kind of down?
Because you're poisoning yourself.
And so you want to be really careful about where you get your coffee from.
So I only drink single origin coffee.
That you know it comes from a small farm somewhere and you want to really...
You become a geek.
joe rogan
Dude, I've had coffee before and then I get sleepy.
tait fletcher
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is that from?
unidentified
A lot of people who have ADD also, you get that though.
joe rogan
Boom.
I know I got that shit.
tait fletcher
It's the mold that is attached to the coffee.
unidentified
Really?
tait fletcher
So Dave Asprey talks a lot about it.
joe rogan
Has this been proven?
tait fletcher
I don't know.
He's a scientist geek.
joe rogan
I saw that on his website where he was like, coffee must be mold free.
tait fletcher
All I know is that I changed it and this is all I do.
It's a tremendous difference.
It's a thousand percent difference.
joe rogan
So it's called single origin?
tait fletcher
If you get a single origin coffee, which just means that you get it from the same farm...
If you have a blend or a decaf coffee, your chances of it being mold infested are through the fucking roof.
Like 98%.
joe rogan
If you go to Bulletproof Exec, he's got an article called Why Bad Coffee Makes You Weak.
So he elaborates on what he tells us.
tait fletcher
He even talks about how to get stronger from just drinking coffee.
joe rogan
Well, if you don't like the taste of bad coffee, the same reason why you don't like the taste of gasoline, your body's telling you it's toxic.
The data on coffee consumption goes back and forth.
Some studies show health benefits while others show negative outcomes.
This might seem confusing, but the simple reason is this.
Bad coffee is good for you.
Oh, bad coffee is bad for you, and scientists suck at differentiating types of coffee when they run studies on coffee.
tait fletcher
So there's scientific tests that have no science because there's no static model.
brian redban
So you say my Trent of iced coffee that I drink every day from Starbucks is killing me?
tait fletcher
You're probably poisoning yourself.
unidentified
Really?
tait fletcher
Yeah.
joe rogan
As much as it is when you eat gluten.
I've never heard this before, and I can't wait to talk to him about this on the podcast.
This is nuts.
tait fletcher
He's fascinating, dude.
He biohacked his whole body.
He talks about that he went up 20 IQ points.
He lost 150 pounds or something.
joe rogan
How did he biohack his body?
tait fletcher
He's an analyst, a securities analyst in San Fran for a while, and he's like, I just went into all the different facets of my body.
I thought about how nutrition is affecting me and bringing me towards a pharmaceutical answer.
And so he says, I wanted to get optimized in every aspect of my life.
And he just looked at nutrition and movement.
He even sells one of those machines.
The first time I ever heard of it was Diego Sanchez when he was just off the Ultimate Fighter.
And it's one of those vibrating...
joe rogan
I got one of those.
tait fletcher
And he swears about it.
He's got one that he's making that he's making available, like, I don't know, $1,500.
Something that's doable for the public.
Because they were like $12,000 or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're expensive.
But it's a turbosonic.
tait fletcher
He's all into all of that.
unidentified
It's incredible.
tait fletcher
I know high-end actors that use them, but they do mobilization with them.
joe rogan
That's not the same machine.
That's just a shaky machine.
This is actually sound.
It's actually sound that goes through your body.
Yeah, it's a very interesting thing.
The Russian cosmonauts started using it.
No, it's a shaky thing.
tait fletcher
It is.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's actually sound.
It doesn't make any noise, but it's a speaker underneath the base of it.
The base of it is essentially like a gigantic speaker.
unidentified
I just used my Hitachi.
joe rogan
I don't think...
It's a really fascinating thing.
The Russian cosmonauts used it to stay in space much longer than anybody else was able to.
unidentified
Crazy.
tait fletcher
Without muscle atrophy and all that.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's the big issue.
tait fletcher
That's how Brian does it, too.
That's how he keeps that physique.
unidentified
That's right.
tait fletcher
Two Hitachis.
Look at the fasting.
He talks about intermittent fasting on there, too.
I haven't eaten today.
I did a fucking 40-minute workout earlier.
I've been up since 6. I'm not hungry.
I don't get hypogacemic and all that shit, but it's not that I've been calorically deficient.
I don't know how many calories are in my coffee, but a ton.
I'm drinking a bunch of fat through my coffee.
But Mark Sisson, that's the Primal Blueprint guy, he talks a lot about it and the reason I switched over like that was because he talks about sugar burners and fat burners and he's like, if you're getting a preponderance of your calories, From carbohydrates, your body, the mechanism, never switches from burning sugars to burning fat.
So it's only burning the glucose in your blood, which is why you need to eat every couple hours or else you get sluggish and all that kind of shit.
And he says, you know, insulin is a storage hormone.
So every carbohydrate that comes in, insulin shuttles it to store his fat for when we don't have food.
But that never fucking happens because we're never in four or five days stretches of starvation in America.
And so we just stay fat that way and we get hypoinsulemic and we have diabetes later in life and whatever.
Or you just keep adipose tissue where you don't want it.
So the thing he started saying, he says, you know, maybe what you want to do is start eating less than 100 grams a day, go into a state of ketosis, kind of the way Atkins was talking about, but eating a lot of fibrous vegetables.
You know, you can eat a fucking bowl of steamed broccoli and not reach 100 grams of carbs.
And eat a high-fat diet.
Like, you get hungry, you want something, eat coconut butter.
Like, I put coconut butter in my coffee a lot, too.
Or MCT oil, like...
What is MCT? Medium chain triglycerides.
It's another thing that talks about fat conversion into energy.
And so with this, there's a lot of different mechanisms that are going on that are making me stay energetic all throughout the day.
And also, if I don't have calories in my body, my body's mechanisms are already turned in and attuned to eating the fat out of my body for energy as opposed to getting hypoglycemic and falling out and needing to eat some sugar right now in order to keep going.
joe rogan
Yeah, we had Rich Roll on the podcast, who's a vegan, ultra-endurance athlete.
tait fletcher
Poor guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Nice guy.
Sad.
But the vegan aspect of it, but he was explaining the whole thing about burning fat, getting your body to burn fat.
tait fletcher
It's huge.
You have to.
I mean, if you want to be healthy, if you...
And it's just a little bit of discipline.
It's not like I'm ever feeling like I'm lacking something or something like that.
It's like you're sated all day long.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the weird thing about us with our diets, man.
It's like if you look at the average person, go to Disneyland or something like that, look at the average person, when you see anywhere you are around a giant mass of people, so many people are so unhealthy.
tait fletcher
You know what you got to go to?
Go to the fucking CrossFit Games.
joe rogan
Oh, I was at the beach.
tait fletcher
Holy fuck.
joe rogan
I was at the beach, and the beach was brutal the other day.
And I was watching these kids eating chips with their fat family.
Everybody's fat.
Their parents are fat.
tait fletcher
And that's in California, where there's a higher level of, like, people aren't generally that way.
unidentified
Higher level of cocaine.
tait fletcher
I don't know, is it the cocaine?
joe rogan
No, there's not that many people on coke, dude.
tait fletcher
Have you ever done any of the stuff that makes a dude eat their faces, Brian?
unidentified
Basalts?
Yeah.
No.
joe rogan
It only makes one retard eat a face.
I have a feeling that guy...
tait fletcher
Is it good other than that?
joe rogan
You could have talked too much doing that anyway.
That guy was down to eat so much face.
unidentified
I have a feeling.
joe rogan
Basalts...
tait fletcher
He's been waiting.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's fucking waiting to blame it on basalts.
We all know one asshole, you know, that's like that.
tait fletcher
One guy, that's hilarious.
joe rogan
Yeah, that one motherfucker that just...
tait fletcher
He ruined basalts for everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, he ruined the whole gig.
unidentified
It was weed.
He just had the munchies.
Just mad hungry.
joe rogan
Just talking about that crash, the Turbosonic site.
It's crazy.
Just us talking about it.
That site is wrecked.
unidentified
Let's crash some sites.
joe rogan
No, you can't do that, Brian.
You can't even say that.
unidentified
I'm just kidding.
joe rogan
But I'm just informing you while we're working together.
You cannot put us in danger like that.
Yeah, that's actually a threat.
If you talk about, let's go crash a website, you're threatening to you to conspire to remove someone's product from business.
And the way it's defined in the Patriot Act, I'm pretty sure that's cyberterrorism.
You've got to be real careful about shit like that.
I'm not bullshitting.
You've got to be really careful.
tait fletcher
What happened with the Sonic Boom site?
joe rogan
Turbo Sonic is the device that I talked about that shaked.
tait fletcher
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
When you mentioned it, enough people went there that it crashed it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
tait fletcher
Holy fuck.
You're powerful, Joe Rogan.
joe rogan
It's not even that sight.
tait fletcher
You know what's amazing to me is watching this for the last few years, and we haven't been around each other a whole lot, but watching the explosion of a podcast, the way technology moves, and podcasts just happened, and how powerful they are, and then the reaching that it does into the world, it's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not like anything that's ever happened to me before.
There's a big difference between doing shows now, post-podcasts and pre-podcasts.
I always had fans.
I always had people that wanted to come see me, but it's just a totally different animal.
tait fletcher
But it's arenas.
That's what Ari was talking about.
I'd ask him, I was like, how does this make it different for you?
And he's like, dude, it's fucking retarded.
It makes all the difference.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird.
This is Toronto.
This is me just going on stage in Toronto.
This is...
It doesn't even make sense when I hear this.
It seems like a lie.
tait fletcher
It sounds like the Super Bowl.
It's fucking rad, dude.
unidentified
What's up, buddy?
What the fuck?
It's all you like to look at that! hahaha It was crazy, dude, for real.
joe rogan
It's like one of the weirder moments of my life.
tait fletcher
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because it doesn't seem real.
tait fletcher
Was that like a pinnacle show, like one of the biggest ones?
joe rogan
It was pretty big.
I've sold out Massey Hall before, though.
I sold it out last time I was there, too.
Toronto's just amazing, man.
It's just a great town.
They have a big comedy community there, too.
So we did a show the night before at this not-to-be-named site where they have a weed show.
And it's a super secret.
Only people within the community allowed.
Of course.
I don't tweet nothing about it because I don't know what the laws are.
The last thing I want to do is get arrested the night before the weigh-ins.
unidentified
Right.
tait fletcher
Not a good career move.
joe rogan
So we literally landed at 9.30, called the dude up who runs the show, and we were over there.
We dropped our shit off at the hotel, and we were gone.
So me and Tripoli show up at this place.
We walk in, we go into the back door, and it's just like this party.
It's just people drinking, there's smoke filled the room, and the Iron Sheik is on stage.
Yes.
unidentified
So we hear, and motherfuck Jabroni, and motherfuck Haran, number one Greco-Roman, number one freestyle wrestling.
joe rogan
You hear him on stage going through his shit, and there's so much smoke in the room.
It's like the room is on fire.
tait fletcher
Does the Iron Sheik burn?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know what I want to say.
I did.
Too late.
unidentified
I'm sure he does.
tait fletcher
Cyberterrorism, Joe.
joe rogan
Why wouldn't he?
tait fletcher
Did they have some good weed at this place?
joe rogan
Totally did some cyberterrorism.
Did they have some good weed?
Goddamn, did they have good weed in Toronto.
It's just as good as California weed.
I think it's universal now.
I think what happened was when the medical movement came along, The California botanists got on it because they could be out in the open about it and they started putting out the names of the strains and telling you this is 70% sativa, 30% indica and putting all the different hybrids out and then everybody else just ran with it.
So now I think when you get good weed, it's good California weed or it's good Colorado.
Colorado is right there with California.
But it looks like Toronto's right there, too.
Like, they know what the fuck they're doing.
And then Vancouver has, like, a medical program.
They have, like, something similar.
tait fletcher
That's, like, where everything came from.
The base is Vancouver.
joe rogan
The union was a documentary that I was in a few years back that they've actually shown to the Canadian parliament.
They actually are using it to educate different Canadian politicians because most people don't even know the history of why it's illegal or what a big part it plays in the economy of British Columbia.
Like, they don't even know.
But it's like a web holding the economy together.
It's a big part of the industry.
It's one of the reasons why Vancouver is such a wealthy place.
And people don't want to accept that, but it's a fact.
It is a commodity.
It's just as much of a commodity as living in an oil town.
That money gets distributed back into the community, and there's a massive amount of it.
And it's tolerated in the weirdest way possible, where it is and it isn't at the same time.
It's legal and illegal.
It's like they let it go.
tait fletcher
Decriminalize it.
joe rogan
I don't even know how they say it, but you can't sell it.
They bus people.
One of the things in the union, they found these undercover ones or underground places where they were growing it.
They had electricity running underground.
They found those before in America, too.
And they also had trains where they had train cars.
And the train cars were all filled with grow houses.
They're all grow houses.
And they're just like, you know, hundreds of yards of trains filled with weed.
Yeah, I mean, the demand is insane.
And there's money coming in.
And it's not totally legal.
But it's a massive part of the economy.
And the union, if you haven't seen it, my friend Adam Skorgy did the documentary.
And I'm in it, too.
I go crazy.
Talking about weed laws.
But it's one of the best documentaries as far as explaining how ridiculous it is.
But in Canada, they watch this.
They're showing this to politicians.
These fucking monkeys we have in office are not going to sit down and be educated by something that actually makes sense.
These ridiculous fucking people we have running this country.
tait fletcher
They say that the lobbyists now, that even companies like the pharmaceutical companies or Big Electric or whatever, that they're pushing lobbyists away.
The hundred senators that are bought by everybody, they're like, we're already invested, sorry.
The bribes aren't even counting anymore because the sides are already chosen.
joe rogan
The idea that you can just bribe someone and give it another name, call it lobbyist.
tait fletcher
The idea that you can be in fucking office, that's what you're groomed for.
You ask a 12-year-old, what do you want to be, a politician?
Kill that kid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
You know what I mean?
What the fuck?
joe rogan
What kind of weird kid is that?
tait fletcher
I love that George Washington shit.
Like, fuck no, I don't want that.
They're like, we want to make you king.
He's like, what were we just doing?
Are you guys not paying attention?
joe rogan
Yeah, we just got away from that, you stupid.
tait fletcher
Fuck, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, George Washington probably had to do it.
tait fletcher
Where's the leader that doesn't want to be a leader, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's George Washington.
Probably had to do it because if he didn't do it, some other cunt would do it and ruin the whole fucking project.
tait fletcher
Exactly.
Yeah, but that was like unpaid.
The whole thing is like it's taking you away from being a businessman like a plantation slave owner that he was.
joe rogan
He's like, listen, I got slaves to fuck.
I really don't have enough time to run this country.
I got wooden teeth and I own a bunch of people.
tait fletcher
What did you think about that?
Did you ever see the...
That Obama wasn't the first black president and all the other seven or eight black presidents?
joe rogan
I've only seen that from the black Muslims.
tait fletcher
Dude, there's a website that is dedicated to it, but I'm like, Calvin Coolidge?
How come I never thought of that before?
joe rogan
Calvin Coolidge.
tait fletcher
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
My man.
unidentified
He's like, I should have known that.
joe rogan
Yeah, when was the last time a dude named Calvin was a white guy?
tait fletcher
Coolidge.
joe rogan
Calvin Coolidge is black as fuck you need to be.
I wrote an article about it on my website way, way, way back.
It was way before Fear Factor.
I was in New York doing a club, and I was walking down the street, and these black Muslims, the black Israelites, excuse me, not Muslims, the black Israelites, they wear crazy outfits like superheroes, Really?
Oh my god, you've never seen it?
Oh my god, it's amazing.
It's one of the weirdest religions ever.
They make fun of regular Jews.
unidentified
These so-called Jews with their curly hair and their stupid clothes.
joe rogan
This guy was saying this while he was dressed up like a superhero.
I'm not joking.
I mean, they look like a guy who's in like...
Like a Charlton Heston movie about people who lived in the Roman times.
That's how they're dressed.
They're dressed in these crazy outfits.
tait fletcher
Pulls up on a chariot.
joe rogan
And they will read the Bible.
You know, sayeth unto he what you...
And they would say, what he means by that!
And then come up with some crazy...
To keep the mud races and the white man and all the different non-African races.
tait fletcher
How'd you get that out of that sentence?
That's awesome.
joe rogan
And you have to see some of the videos of these guys because you would swear it's a giant troll.
See if you can pull some up, Brian, because a lot of people are not aware of them.
unidentified
What are they called again?
joe rogan
Black Israelites.
Crazy black Israelites.
They all hate white people.
The white devil!
And they'll do all this.
And I sat there and watched these guys go off about white people.
He let me sit around.
He goes, you're not Jewish, are you?
And I said, no, no, I'm Italian.
tait fletcher
Because I'm about to say some shit.
joe rogan
I said, I'm Italian.
He goes, okay, you ain't even white.
You ain't white.
I'm okay.
I just want to hear your rap.
But a dude asked to take a picture with me.
I wonder if the picture's still up on my website.
But the picture was me standing there with this fucking guy.
unidentified
What the fuck?
You got to see the guys.
joe rogan
Where are they?
Oh, this guy's got an actual Bible.
unidentified
You are a racist and you are twisting scripture.
For God so love the world.
joe rogan
For God so love This is a battle between crazy people.
This is no good.
Let's not go to this one.
Try to find one where it's just the other crazy people.
Just them.
The fat guy is like twisting up the scripture.
He's like, you are doing the wrong crazy shit.
unidentified
For the Jews.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at the outfits.
unidentified
Who are the Negroes in America?
Oh, I see.
See, the Jews are one tribe of people.
I see.
That's where you get the word Jew from the tribe of Jew Duck.
Yeah.
For the Negroes.
But who am I? What's your nationality?
I'm a what?
What's your nationality?
I'm just a person.
No, what are you following?
Do you follow the Caucasian?
Yes.
Okay, well you're an Edomite.
You're an Edomite.
Where does the Bible tell you that?
Where does the Bible tell you that?
It tells you the Genesis 25th chapter.
Are you guys against the war?
Do you want us to know?
We will support the war.
Heavenly Father is in control of the war.
joe rogan
What's that?
Look at his awesome outfit.
unidentified
Is that duct tape?
I'm listening I said 12 tribes of Israel Are the negros West Indians Haitians The Finnegan Those have shit written down Puerto Ricans Cubans North American Indians The Seminole Indians Argentina to Chile Colombia to Uruguay And the so called Mexicans Those So called Mexicans Where's the Chinese people?
They live in Mexico.
Yes, he was a Jew.
Okay, so why do you have Jesus painted like that?
That's not Jesus.
Who is that?
That's not Jesus.
That's a man called successful boy Jesus.
Look at that billboard.
Look at that billboard.
That's him on the left hand on the left side.
That is the family that painted that image.
It's a show coming out in April and they're going to give you the whole truth in that.
joe rogan
Okay, okay.
Okay.
This guy's not a good representation of it.
The better representation is they read on!
They read out of the Bible and then they twist it up.
But it's all basically the same thing.
This guy wasn't spewing enough hate.
tait fletcher
They all yell.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was barely doing hate.
He was just doing silly.
He was going silly with it.
He had like a cardboard outfit.
It looked like a fucking paper bag from Vons.
unidentified
John's, not Vons.
tait fletcher
He taped his shit on.
joe rogan
Yeah, it looked like he taped it.
tait fletcher
He taped the trim.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know why you have to have a certain outfit in order to read the word.
I've always thought that was really interesting, where people dress up.
I don't trust you when you're dressing up special.
I really don't.
Because that's not you.
You should be able to go and do a mass in front of everybody.
Dress the same way you would dress if you went to dinner somewhere.
You should just dress.
You shouldn't wear crazy outfits that treat you different.
If you want to wear a dress, if that's your shit...
tait fletcher
A velvet dress and a big hat?
joe rogan
If you're that kind of gal, and that's what you want to wear, I think you should be able to wear whatever the fuck you want, but what I don't think you should do is dress like you're from another time period, and I give you extra respect.
tait fletcher
Dude, all the people down in the neighborhood I used to live, like all the dudes in the black wool suits and all that, and the funny hats, some are fuzzy, some are cowboy hats.
joe rogan
Some look like a Christmas wreath.
tait fletcher
It always fucking cracks me up to see those guys walking, and then you'll see a dude with a Bluetooth.
It's like, you're in the 1840s, but you're Bluetooth.
Like, that's okay, though.
You gotta wear this uncomfortable shit all day long.
joe rogan
They only wear that one outfit.
That's the only kind of clothes they wear.
tait fletcher
And then I think those poor kids, you see these young kids, and you're like, fuck, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're stuck.
They're stuck in a cult.
But hopefully they can met and yahoo their way out of there.
tait fletcher
What's his name?
Madis Yahoo?
joe rogan
That guy's a bad motherfucker, and he was stuck in there.
tait fletcher
I feel like you just gotta pick your cult.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, maybe, but that's not the one.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
That's too restrictive.
The ones that are too restrictive, it's just like people got out of control and they had a...
tait fletcher
Like jujitsu, that's a cult.
joe rogan
That is a cult, for sure.
tait fletcher
The whole paleo movement, all the CrossFit movement, that shit's all cults, but it's all good.
joe rogan
You're on a cult radio show.
tait fletcher
Yeah, exactly, man.
joe rogan
This is a cult show.
tait fletcher
Just gotta pick your cult, you know?
Don't get fooled, dum-dum.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it's also what we were talking about before is people that naturally gravitate towards groups.
Groups of like-minded people.
Everybody's fucking different in this world, man.
There's too many different variables that could affect people.
So many variables.
That's why the idea of a country is, you know...
It's almost like until we evolve to the next level of consciousness, we're going to keep having countries.
tait fletcher
It's prehistoric.
joe rogan
It's going to be real hard for us to evolve past the point of needing a team, past the point of needing a tribe.
It's going to be real hard.
Because some other cunt is going to come along and try to jack all the resources, control the area.
It's true.
If you look at what's going on in the Middle East, how does this not blow up eventually?
How does this not overboil?
tait fletcher
Well, you look at that shit that's going on, whatever, at least they have real food.
You look at what's going on with GMOs and with Monsanto and fucking the head of Monsanto gets appointed as the head of the FDA by Obama.
It's like, I want to be on your side, homeboy, but holy fuck.
You know what I mean?
It's like, we're just controlled.
I mean, they're controlling our food, poisoning our food.
joe rogan
Monsanto made Agent Orange.
tait fletcher
Yeah, they're a fucking weed fertilizer company for fuck's sake.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
That makes our food.
If you eat any corn at all, it's Monsanto corn.
It's all GMO. It's all mutated now.
unidentified
All of it?
tait fletcher
The way they shut down fucking farms, they'd put a farm next to it, and then they'd fucking sue them.
They'd say, you're growing our shit.
They're like, the wind blew and fucking your shit is here.
They said, we patented that.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then they sue the farmers.
tait fletcher
And then they fucking bankrupt them.
joe rogan
And they bankrupt them.
Yeah, that's common practice.
tait fletcher
And now it's a done deal.
joe rogan
They say someone every 30 seconds commits suicide because they're involved in a Monsanto contract that they can't They can't profit from.
unidentified
And it stinks.
They can't eat meat.
tait fletcher
They're the only country that's suing a corporation.
And they're in a lawsuit, they're in a litigation against Monsanto because the eggplant, they're trying to own the eggplant the way they did the...
The way they did the corn in America.
And they're like, enough's enough, man.
joe rogan
Brazil won recently in court.
tait fletcher
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, the Brazilian farmers, they won billions of dollars from Monsanto.
tait fletcher
Now there is a cow.
Those fucking Brazilians know how to do meat.
joe rogan
They fuck, yeah, they do.
Yeah, and they apparently...
tait fletcher
Not so good at jujitsu, but they got some fucking...
They can cook some shit.
joe rogan
There's some suicides all over the world when it comes to...
tait fletcher
The Monsanto?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's really scary.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Monsanto is connected to 200,000 suicides in India.
200,000 in the past 10 years.
The past 10 years.
In 10 years, man.
tait fletcher
I had no idea.
joe rogan
That's insane.
365 days a year times 10. It's crazy.
tait fletcher
That suicide where organisms are dying to recreate themselves.
Like humans.
Like everything.
Like biology wants more biology.
And like...
And you've got self-preservation as a gene in you.
And where people are dying like that, like fucking, what you're talking about, suicides there, or you're talking about the American soldier coming back, like, it's a fucking epidemic, dude.
They talk about a dude a day kills himself that was in the army.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
tait fletcher
It seems like something we should address.
joe rogan
I mean, you think about that, 365 days a year, 10 years, that's 3,650 years, right?
Or 3,650 days.
3,650 days, 200,000 people committed suicide.
That's amazing.
tait fletcher
That's huge.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
I mean, that's almost, that's a lot.
That's insane.
tait fletcher
And that's just giving hopelessness.
How much hopelessness can I give to a guy who kills himself?
joe rogan
Is that like 50 a day, 70 a day or something like that?
I mean, it's crazy.
tait fletcher
You're asking the wrong guy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm the wrong guy to be questioning.
I think it's been broken down, though.
Someone broke it down like how many men in every three minutes or something an Indian guy commits suicide because of Monsanto.
Well, India is massive, first of all.
There's a billion people.
tait fletcher
Bunch of extra folks there.
joe rogan
And Monsanto's like, fuck them.
We're going to need to fucking thin the herd some way.
We're going to need weak bitches to kill themselves.
So we're just going to jack them.
I don't know what the deal they have over there is, but I know that there's certain places in this country where they make deals with people where you have to buy their shit.
And once you buy their shit, it only works for a year.
They have suicide seeds that don't work.
tait fletcher
You've got to buy it from your strung out on them.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're strung out.
The old days, a farmer used to take his tomatoes and then take some seeds from those tomatoes and plant those seeds and make more tomatoes.
That shit ain't happening anymore.
They've engineered that out of the equation, which is really nuts that they've twisted it around.
They've twisted life around just so they can maximize the amount of money.
It's not like you couldn't make money just selling seeds.
tait fletcher
I just read one of the Monsanto headquarters.
They all vote on what their cafeteria is.
They voted no GMO foods in our cafeteria.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
tait fletcher
Is that awesome?
They're like, we're not eating that shit.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
tait fletcher
So then what is that shit?
Those are the people that know the most about that food.
So what the fuck is that?
joe rogan
Well, it gives tumors to rats.
Like, they're just releasing studies now that show that it gives fucking rats brain tumors and shit.
tait fletcher
It just shows you gotta be more proactive, know more about your life, you believe the government, you deserve to die.
joe rogan
Tate Fletcher Law.
tait fletcher
If you're looking for somebody else to be relying on so you can get your health, that's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
That's one way of looking at it.
I think the way I'm looking at it that I would choose is that there's got to be a way that these people can profit, that everybody can make a living and do very well by selling a legitimate product that doesn't fuck people over.
We just got to figure out a way to stop people...
We've got to figure out a way to stop people from putting money over humanity.
And that's what they...
Like that documentary, The Corporation.
Did you ever watch that?
tait fletcher
No, but nobody does that.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, that's not true.
Some companies do that.
tait fletcher
We don't even vote that way.
People vote and they say, what's going to be better for my taxes?
They don't say what's going to be better for the homeless guy down the street.
joe rogan
Well, fuck the homeless guy.
That bitch needs to get a job.
tait fletcher
What's his problem?
There's a lot of stuff that goes on with that.
There's a lot of mental illness.
joe rogan
I'm just saying, that's how people look at it.
tait fletcher
You ever see this documentary called I Am?
joe rogan
Yes, I have.
I think once you get to be a dude and you're pissing yourself and you're on the street, bring you back to baseline and build you up again, god damn, that's an effort.
tait fletcher
And maybe we're never going to do that.
joe rogan
I'm not saying we shouldn't do it.
I don't know what made that guy...
But something went wrong and created that dude.
We definitely need to patch this fucking thing up one way or another.
And having a company like Monsanto around ain't helping shit.
tait fletcher
No, and then what is that?
When you talk about every country except for three countries in the fucking world, the central bank is a Rothschild's bank.
You think about things like that, about why Hugo Chavez is an outcast and treated like Castro, is because he said, I'm not going to sell my natural resources to the World Bank and assuage my debt.
When you look at that and you go, it's about money and control, and you go, how much money are you controlling?
How many more billions do you need?
What is that about?
Or like you look at the thing where they break the oil pipeline and Halliburton comes to the rescue again.
Fuck you.
You know how to clean that up.
Nobody knows how to clean that up.
But you got a contract to clean it up.
It's just more fleecing of the taxpayers.
So we're paying for our own imprisonment.
And that's the real rub.
That's the whole game here.
How can I keep the American public or all the public scared so that I can make you pay for your own imprisonment?
How can we spin the euro so that the World Bank in Germany can buy Greece?
It's not just taking corporations.
We're jacking countries.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
And it's all based on someone's going to try to make money.
tait fletcher
Right.
joe rogan
That's the only thing that everything is based on.
tait fletcher
But it's not even money.
It's sicker than that.
It's like a junkie.
It's like, when you tell me he's a dope fiend, and you go, if you're abstinent, if you have one, that's too many, and a thousand's never enough.
It's an insatiable lust for power that they crave.
Because you've already got opulence for forever.
So what is it?
joe rogan
It's just like we were talking about with the prison guard experiment.
It's just human nature.
When humans get to a certain point where they have ultimate control over people, they look at the regular people with disdain, they separate themselves from everybody else.
It becomes a team of them, you know, these blue blood weirdos who wear fucking eyes wide shut masks and go around fucking each other in the ass on videotape so that they, you know, have something on each other or whatever the fuck they do.
else man they just have too much power it's too they manipulated the system there's a rig system and they're they pass money down from generation to generation and there was unenlightened person teaches unenlightened children to remain that way and it goes on and on and on and it doesn't match up to the model of information that's out there now it It's not like we're living in the 1500s where it's really tough to get worried out.
No one really knows how the fuck anything really works because the whole country's in the dark.
You gotta go to the library and get books.
There's no cars.
It's like that era.
To get something by in that era, it was almost like balanced.
It was normal.
But now it's imbalanced because everybody knows it's a hustle.
There's no confusion anymore.
Anybody can go online and Google the stories about Monsanto.
Anybody can go online and Google lobbyists and find out how that whole thing works.
Anybody can go online and read what people are saying that have actually read the NDAA and what a fucking crazy thing it is that Obama passed this.
Anybody can do that now.
And this wasn't the case when this sort of style of government was born.
It's just evolved to a point where it's gotten too big.
tait fletcher
Well, it's so funny, though, too, about people because nobody cares.
It's like after the Bush administration, the robbery was obscene and blatant.
And nobody cared.
Nobody cared that he didn't really have a grasp on English.
Nobody cares about Mitt Romney, how crazy he sounds.
He's like, you can't roll down the window in an airplane and so you can't get fresh air in the plane.
Somebody's got to fix that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
Like, that's insane.
You're an insane fucking person.
You're nearly retarded, and you're vying for one of the highest offices.
But that's not the crazy part.
The crazy part is there's grips of people that are on your side.
joe rogan
Because he's white.
unidentified
That's so nutty.
joe rogan
He's a businessman.
He's white.
And the fact that he's a businessman, the fact that he's been raiding companies and fucking taking jobs away from them.
tait fletcher
How about what he said about that videotape of him recently where he's going...
Yeah, the 46% of Americans that are just taken from the country, they're just scabs on the country, and we've got to stop that out.
These are people that we're paying into all these social programs.
That's who he's talking about, is retirees and shit.
joe rogan
Well, he's talking about what he's saying, that 47%, apparently, I didn't know this.
But 47% of the people in this country don't pay income taxes.
They don't make enough money to pay income taxes.
And he was like, those people, I don't worry about those.
And they still pay taxes because they pay property taxes, they pay taxes on food.
tait fletcher
Food taxes, sale taxes, everything.
joe rogan
But he was trying to say that they don't contribute so they'll never vote for him.
And everybody was like, what did you say?
You crazy asshole.
tait fletcher
It's so crazy.
joe rogan
So you can't concentrate on them.
It's like you can't concentrate on half the public.
tait fletcher
On people.
joe rogan
Yeah, on half the people.
You can't try to talk to them and explain to them that you can help them.
Whoa!
He's an elitist.
He's as clear and elitist as they can be.
I'm not into what Obama's done.
I don't like it.
He's a prick too.
It makes me sad that that's the first black guy that's president who's a liberal, who's a brilliant guy, who's Harvard educated.
And this is the result.
The National Defense Authorization Act, all the ridiculousness that's gone on with WikiLeaks.
tait fletcher
Make anybody a terrorist.
You've got zero rights in court.
We can hold you indefinitely.
All of that shit, dude.
And for him...
What I was hoping for, I'm hoping the second term, it is he just played ball the first term.
That's my fantasy, which I know isn't true.
joe rogan
Chris Rock's been saying that.
Like, you know, the second term's when you do some gangsta shit.
I'm like, come on.
We'll see.
That's ridiculous.
If that's really the case, first of all, you can't...
Freedoms taken away are never returned.
Once you give away some freedom, it doesn't ever, never in the history of the world has it gone back ever.
tait fletcher
And I'm sorry, retards.
It's not World War II freedom or your great-granddaddy in World War I or something, you fucking asshole.
It's people that came and carved a fucking country out from England.
That's the freedom that was fucking bought with a wholesale clean slate place.
We don't get that shit back.
joe rogan
And ever since then, it's slowly sliding away.
And those guys that built it back then, they knew.
They knew that this could fucking fall apart.
So they put a bunch of safeguards in place and essentially...
Lately, the politicians have been cutting those up and selling those down the river, and all without the support of the American people.
unidentified
We haven't told them to do this.
tait fletcher
Nobody's even for that.
joe rogan
No one's for it.
Not only is no one for it, most people don't even know it's happened.
I mean, I've talked to friends that are really politically active.
the National Defense Authorization Act, and because it's not on CNN, they think like, oh, what the fuck?
tait fletcher
But they get to keep it off CNN.
Yeah, they get to keep it off CNN.
It's like, that's the other thing.
You got to listen to Jamie Kilstein or you got to listen to fucking, you got to go to other places for that.
You know, even BBC, if you go online, you can find information about that.
joe rogan
BBC, Al Jazeera, all that shit, you know, that's...
unidentified
Terrorist.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's motherfuckers.
It's weird, man.
We've got a weird world we live in, dude.
It's very weird.
It's strange.
We've got this woman coming on next week, Amber Lyon.
She's from CNN. She seems interesting.
Yeah, very interesting.
She's going to break open some massive...
Well, she exposed massive censorship at CNN. She kind of told what it's like over there.
We're going to sit down with her next week.
tait fletcher
They'll treat her like WikiLeaks.
It goes back to that thing about the family on the train tracks.
joe rogan
But it's too obvious.
At this point, it's too obvious.
It's too obvious that there's censorship.
When there's issues, especially like the National Defense Authorization Act, which is really an unconstitutional act, it's horrifying when you read what they can do.
It's indefinite detention of American civilians who essentially have no recourse, no right to trial.
They can just detain you.
You don't have rights anymore.
It's like the whole idea of this country is innocent until proven guilty.
And the reason that is the case is because there's a lot of people that got accused of something that weren't guilty.
It's that simple.
tait fletcher
Think about trusting the TSA, the guys at TSA that you walk up on.
Because that's who is going to enforce this stuff.
Are people like that?
joe rogan
Like that.
Indefinite detention under the rule of the TSA. Just the side of drooling.
tait fletcher
They can't control what they eat.
They can't control anything.
Their flatulence is more widespread than mine.
joe rogan
And their idea behind this is that what they're doing is preparing for a fucking Arab Spring type rebellion.
And we're going to be able to have these things so we can legally do the things that are horrible and immoral.
But since we wrote them down on paper, we can do it now.
So we're going to do it.
So we're just going to set it up nice and slow where we change the country and literally turn everything into a police state.
Oh, and by the way, we're going to have drones.
Do you mind if we have drones?
We're just going to pass it.
We know what we're doing.
Don't worry.
We're going to have 30,000 of them floating in the sky in the next 10 years.
tait fletcher
I was talking to people last week about this.
And the thing is, with the people that vote for whoever your candidate is, whatever.
But...
The people that are so easily fleeced in the country, you go...
If it's...
You know, we passed a law.
It's okay to fuck your kids now.
It's totally okay.
You can have intercourse with a child.
Then they go, well, it's legal.
At least it's not illegal.
It's like it's such a fucking battle cry for numbskulls.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they passed a law in New York City recently saying that rabbis have to get consent from the parents before the moil sucks on the kid's dick after circumcision.
Because a couple kids have died over the past few years because of herpes.
So these asshole rabbis...
tait fletcher
Herpes can kill you?
joe rogan
Yes, when you're a baby.
Wow.
Herpes can kill you.
So these rabbi assholes with cold sores are sucking off baby dicks and giving them...
This is not...
I'm not making any of this up.
tait fletcher
I never knew that was part of the thing.
joe rogan
So they passed a law.
So now there's a law that says we have to just get the parents' consent and you can still do it.
You can still suck a baby's dick because it's a religious practice.
Because it's a religious act.
And they do it because it says that in the Torah that you're supposed to do it with your mouth because it's the closest thing to it and because saliva has antiseptic properties.
Because this is how people lived thousands of years ago.
So when they perform circumcision, the traditional method...
tait fletcher
Purell.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's plenty of antiseptics.
Although, putting Purell on a baby's dick after you cut it seems rather cruel.
They're going to be fine?
Toughen him up.
Toughen up that boy.
He's scared of a little Purell on the dick.
tait fletcher
I don't know.
All that shit that's out there, then what do you do with it?
What's a recourse when you've got...
There's nothing you can do about it.
joe rogan
You've got to make that illegal, first of all.
tait fletcher
But you can't fight Obama and his choices.
You can't fight that.
joe rogan
Well, it's just so disappointing that a guy like Obama was the one who came up with this.
tait fletcher
So then what's the recourse?
joe rogan
Or not just came up with this, rather, but approved this in office.
He had to do a JFK there.
He had to stand up for that.
If you're going to be a real president, you have to stand up for that.
And you have to expose it to the public and say, look...
This is an issue that I cannot sign, and this is why.
And make a stand.
And say, listen, you guys can make a lot of money, but you can't do this.
You can make plenty of money still.
tait fletcher
You'll have plenty of control still.
Why aren't you talking about that at a State of the Union address?
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, why isn't it?
Why isn't everybody?
Why isn't it a huge issue?
tait fletcher
And so then the whole thing goes back to me.
unidentified
Yeah, there is.
You just turned off my power, though.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What went off?
Well, my laptop is not getting any power.
Oh, now it does.
See, it wasn't working, dude.
I was getting no power for some reason.
When I turned it off, that switch is probably...
unidentified
No, it's not.
Well, something happened.
joe rogan
But I just turned that off and back on and now it works.
I didn't touch it before that.
It wasn't on.
tait fletcher
It's magic.
joe rogan
Probably that mag connection.
Well, this is a building that's super crazy old.
This place has been here since like 1961. Really?
Yeah, so the electrical system in here is really wonky.
tait fletcher
Was the cannabis shop, was that here before you guys or did it come in after you guys?
joe rogan
No, they were here before us.
We've only been, I started, I did my first show here in 94, but we've only been like hanging out here on a regular for like what, two years?
Probably two years.
Doing shows here.
The weed store was already here.
This whole area is very weedy.
There's a lot of weed going on in this area.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's real weird where you can get away with certain things, where you can teach people how to grow and shit, and have hydroponic shops, and they don't come down on you.
But this area is like...
But then you go...
You were in San Diego.
You can't rock that shit in San Diego.
And Palm Beach, they're closing down in Palm Beach.
They're trying to stop.
tait fletcher
Denver, they stopped.
They put a moratorium on them that you can't open anymore.
There were so many everywhere.
joe rogan
They're so crazy.
Denver's awesome.
tait fletcher
In New Mexico, they opened them up and they legalized it.
But there's like 10 prescriptions they gave out.
They won't give anybody a card.
And then there's not really any...
They don't think it out, really.
It doesn't seem like anywhere where they go, dispensaries have to meet these criterion or any of that kind of stuff.
And so they're like, nobody can be a dispensary.
Or maybe anybody can, or they're not sure.
joe rogan
I think it's at 13 states now.
Really?
I think 13 states out of 50 have some sort of medical marijuana program.
The interesting one was Rhode Island.
Where Rhode Island said they would use their state police to fight off federal agents if they came down to close them off.
tait fletcher
Holy shit!
joe rogan
Yeah, Rhode Island saying, you're not going to arrest Rhode Island citizens for this.
And I was like, wow, Rhode Island went gangster with the Fed.
tait fletcher
Good.
joe rogan
Because they were coming in and just arresting people who are not violating state law, which is unconstitutional.
There's more shit.
There's a reason why it's set up this way.
So for the federal government to come in and say that we're superseding your state government, there's a reason why there's a state in the first place.
It's so the federal government can't do that.
tait fletcher
Is that causing people to starve?
joe rogan
The only time it was supposed to be where the federal government has Power was when we were in a state of war.
So, we're in a constant state of war.
tait fletcher
Let's be there all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's just be in a constant state of war, so we always can control this.
tait fletcher
How about the cities?
There's real problems.
Sacramento, where is it?
unidentified
Mammoth.
tait fletcher
Mammoth.
Yeah, right.
unidentified
Is that what the problem is?
tait fletcher
That are bankrupt.
That now their pensions of all the firefighters there, all the cops that have retired.
Sorry, we can't fucking pay you.
We're bankrupt.
Like, who is that fucking accountant?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
Like, you're just stealing so much that the state can't take care of this city that's bankrupt.
It's a major metropolitan.
Like, that's crazy.
There's like three in California right now.
But we're going to go ahead and send federal money after some guy smoking weed.
joe rogan
Well, what's really important is that we police Afghanistan.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's really important.
We've got to make sure that everything's okay over there.
They're training people, and then the people are just turning their guns on the American troops, just gunning them down.
tait fletcher
They're like, thanks.
joe rogan
They're getting freebies.
They give them a gun, and they just gun down American troops.
It's happening on a regular basis now.
Suicide bombings and all kinds of craziness over there.
Dude, we had this guy Shane Smith from Vice, vice.com on, who told us about interviewing these guys who had kids strapped with dynamite.
They're talking about how they use kids as devices to detonate bombs.
tait fletcher
Like a vehicle.
joe rogan
Yeah, use it as a vehicle for delivering a bomb.
That's a child.
I mean, it's scary shit.
And we're like, well, we need to be over there.
We need to keep that place in line.
What kind of a shit job are we doing of keeping that place in line if they got children's suicide bombers on the regular?
tait fletcher
Is there anybody that doesn't love their kids?
Like everybody that has kids loves kids unless they're really fucked up.
It's not like you can't sell me on the whole thing.
Afghanis, they just don't like their kids.
That's the way Afghanis are.
Like, that's fucking silly.
It's like in North Africa where my friends would go on merchant marine boats and they'd go, dude, there's people with just their fucking limbs cut off.
And I thought it was an epidemic, but they said, no, it makes them better beggars.
Like in India.
And so they'll disfigure or maim children because the best place you're going to get in life is as a beggar.
Like, that's how some places in the world are.
And so the best, they're so frustrated and so fucked in Afghanistan, or if you want to talk about anywhere in the Middle East where they're like, look at those strapped bombs onto people and go.
It's like, that's not crazy people.
Those are people that are so fucking frustrated with their empty position that they're either going to kill themselves like the 2,000 people that are doing over Monsanto in India, or they're going to fucking try to make a statement while they do it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
That's fucking crazy.
Let's look at that problem.
joe rogan
What a shit roll of the dice.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
Being born there.
Imagine being born in Kabul.
tait fletcher
And what are you going to do for those people?
A couple guys with an M16 are going to take care of that problem?
Really?
joe rogan
You ain't getting out.
tait fletcher
Seems above their pay grade.
joe rogan
You ain't getting out, bitch.
You ain't going nowhere, right?
Where the fuck are you going to go?
If you're born in Somalia, what is the best you can do?
tait fletcher
Be a pirate.
joe rogan
You think so?
tait fletcher
Yeah, that's the best shit, right?
I mean, there's nothing else.
You're going to starve or you're going to be like Tommy Lee at the club.
Like, I'm going to be a pirate.
joe rogan
There's got to be a way to figure out a way to have an impact on people to the point where politicians are forced to recognize that we need another reconsideration of the way we're running things.
That we need to sit down and...
Really plan this thing out.
Because the corruption that we have, it's not that it's necessary.
Corruption is necessary the way it's run right here.
You've got to figure out a way.
If you can figure out a way to get the internet wirelessly and throw it through the air, how come you can't figure out a way to navigate humanity?
How come you can't figure out a way to make things fair for people?
tait fletcher
Because they kill those.
The unfair is what they like.
joe rogan
I know, but isn't it funny?
They're just pussies that want...
It's like they want the cheat codes to the video games.
You know what I mean?
They don't want to actually play the game.
tait fletcher
That's who runs shit.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
It really is amazing.
tait fletcher
I mean, you look at Tesla and you look at what happened with...
He's like, I can take electricity from the air and give it to everybody for free.
They're like, the fuck you can?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
And then all his shit gets destroyed.
Like, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, Tesla apparently was really nuts, too, though.
They say.
Yeah, they say that he had a relationship with a pigeon.
He was in love with a pigeon.
tait fletcher
We can't judge.
joe rogan
I'm not judging, but I'm just saying, I think in order to have the kind of mind that can create so many things, I mean, Tesla was involved in...
tait fletcher
Wasn't it you that was telling me about that though?
He thought that sex was such a distraction that he had to destroy his sexuality?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
That's a guy, a fucking wicked genius, he thought of the radio.
Could do that?
That guy, what does destroying his sexuality mean?
Like, that's crazy.
And that that was an encumbrance.
Like, I'm sorry, I'm thinking about science too much to think about my dick ever.
joe rogan
I think he had some sort of a relationship with a woman that really wrecked him.
And he was really twisted and confused by it, and it really fucked him up.
So there was a quote that Tesla had destroyed his sexuality.
That was the quote, that he had destroyed his sexuality, which is really fascinating, man.
I don't know what that means, but I guess he made a conscious decision.
He said, you know what?
This is obviously...
This is a problem.
This thing is fucking my life up, and he was willing to put his money where his mouth is and stop the ball flow.
tait fletcher
I know a scientist.
He made all kinds of shit.
He was on Monster Garage, that...
What's-his-name show?
And...
Wrote for Scientific American and shit.
Does all kinds of different shit.
But thought, I'm an experiment and I want to change myself into a woman.
And did a homemade...
That would be a fascinating one for your show.
This fucking lady.
Did a homemade sex change.
And became a woman.
Who's like...
joe rogan
Homemade?
tait fletcher
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think did any hormones.
And maybe self-administered hormones.
And all...
joe rogan
Self-surgery too?
tait fletcher
Crazy, crazy, crazy.
I don't know if it's a self-surgery fully.
unidentified
I bet it doesn't feel the same and it smells different.
joe rogan
They said that eunuchs, there's a study that just came out, a study of over 80 eunuchs from the Chosun dynasty, which ruled in Korea from 1392 to 1897. They looked at the world's only record of eunuchs' lives and compared them to genealogical records of other men I'll
tait fletcher
give up for 15 years.
joe rogan
What do you think it is?
They were just like in less danger, less stress?
It's probably just dealing with women.
Probably just dealing with the stress of chasing pussy.
It's like really bad in your heart.
These crazy fucks.
tait fletcher
Well, how many people would even get out of bed really if it wasn't for some pussy?
Like whether to go work out or whether to go make money.
It kind of drives a lot of us guys to get out and do stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, it becomes the main motivating factor for a lot of people, especially early in life.
tait fletcher
And then I wonder how, like, eunuchs are, why were they made eunuchs?
To get taken care of.
They were some kind of in servitude, right?
And so they're taken care of.
They're like on welfare in a way.
They're a completely socialist unit.
So they don't have any stress about money or about who's going to steal their pigs or any of that shit, right?
joe rogan
Right.
They're probably, I mean, it said dynasty, so I'm assuming that's like kings, right?
Right, right, right.
So that's interesting.
Castration, which removes the source of the male hormones, increases lifespan in animals.
unidentified
Let's try it, guys.
Let's do it.
joe rogan
I'll tell you what, man.
I had my dog fixed when he was five, and he changed.
He got really tired all the time.
He got lazy.
He just wanted to lay down.
It was sad.
It was sad to watch.
It was sad.
He was always horny and shit, so I was like, I think I need to get him fixed.
He's just a poor guy.
The doctors will tell you it's important.
One point in time, his balls were aching.
I thought there was something wrong with him.
He was going down the stairs, and he was yiping.
I was like, what's the matter, buddy?
So I wound up taking him to the vet, and the vet said, there's a dog in heat in your neighborhood.
His dick and balls were hurting so bad because of the dog in heat.
That he couldn't walk downstairs.
He would yipe.
And I was like, this poor guy is tortured.
It's not like I got steady pussy around him all the time.
unidentified
The vet didn't give him release, did he?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
Imagine if that's what they did.
unidentified
All right.
tait fletcher
Why wouldn't you?
joe rogan
That's your best friend.
Yeah, well, the vet's supposed to suck the penis.
unidentified
It's in the Torah.
joe rogan
After he cuts it, he must suck it.
tait fletcher
You need a Jewish vet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Imagine if there was, like, religious things for...
tait fletcher
Dude, I had a bulldog.
That motherfucker, his knot came out.
You know, the knot in the penis of the dog that connects him so they ensure insemination.
And fucking...
It came out past the sheath of his skin.
I just...
I looked at that poor fucker and he's just...
Not happy at all.
I'm like, good luck with it.
You know, like, you just gotta wait till the swelling goes down, I guess, and goes in.
But it's like, you could see it almost tearing the skin back to fucking go back into, like, awful.
joe rogan
Well, you know, there's a funny thing about animals, that crazy desire to breed in bees, especially in honeybees.
The male honeybee has sex with a female honeybee, and his dick explodes.
Okay, his dick lodges inside of her.
unidentified
What did you say explodes?
joe rogan
Breaks off, pops.
His balls literally burst.
His testicles burst, and his penis breaks off inside her, and he dies.
He, like, bleeds out.
The honeybee...
He's driven to fuck, okay?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And he fucks, and when he fucks, he dies.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
Honeybees get, like, one shot at fucking and one shot at killing.
They get one shot.
If they sting you, the stinger is it.
It rips off from their abdomen and they die.
tait fletcher
They die after that.
joe rogan
They die.
They die when they sting you.
tait fletcher
That gives me consolation.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy though?
What a shit design, man.
What is that?
What do you watch?
Elephantitis?
This is a sketch.
unidentified
Remember your testes and you?
joe rogan
What is this from?
unidentified
Remember Johnny Dangerously or whatever?
joe rogan
Oh, Johnny Dangerously.
Oh, that's funny.
That's what it's from.
tait fletcher
You are a mad researcher, sir.
joe rogan
Yeah, how could you remember that?
unidentified
This was my favorite as a kid.
joe rogan
Alright, cut it off.
tait fletcher
Makes sense.
joe rogan
That was a good movie though.
That was back when Michael Keaton was like the man.
What happened to that guy?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Did you think he just like moved to Malibu and just...
tait fletcher
I feel like he got a little throwback from Michael J. Fox.
I always got those confused and maybe there's a little illness...
joe rogan
Well, one of them was Batman.
unidentified
Yeah.
tait fletcher
It's hard to remember even that.
joe rogan
Michael Keaton was a good fucking Batman.
He was a good Batman.
brian redban
I thought that, but I just watched it like four months ago and it totally wasn't that good anymore.
unidentified
It doesn't hold up.
joe rogan
Yeah, it doesn't hold up.
But wasn't Jack Nicholson the Joker?
No, it was Danny DeVito.
tait fletcher
Jack Nicholson was the Joker.
unidentified
Oh, I watched the one with Danny DeVito.
tait fletcher
Danny DeVito was the Penguin.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, and Michael Keaton was in that one too?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was the Batman more than once?
unidentified
Yeah, I think it was twice.
joe rogan
Have you seen the picture of Val Kilmer with his head the size of a pumpkin?
And it just says, LOL, I used to be Batman.
tait fletcher
That fucking poor guy.
unidentified
That's so funny.
joe rogan
Isn't he living in New Mexico, too?
unidentified
Yeah, he does.
tait fletcher
He's got a ranch out there.
joe rogan
He probably gets mad at people for going on his ranch, to go fishing on his ranch.
tait fletcher
Dude, it's like, New Mexico's like Hawaii, kind of.
Like, you can't, if you're not from there, like, that's one of the questions.
Like, if there's beef with somebody or you're on the road, like, there's, it's like, where are you from?
Like, is a, like, we're going to fight now.
joe rogan
Right.
tait fletcher
You know what I mean?
And, like, if you walk around, like, Oahu at night, like, that's, if you're going to scrap with somebody, it's just going to happen.
Yeah.
And New Mexico is kind of like that.
He lives out in this place in Raton.
It's like all families, old families.
It's the same families that have had different families.
That's the community.
And he, I guess, just pisses those people off.
Drives through crazy and the whole deal.
Or parties.
joe rogan
Really?
tait fletcher
It seems very unwise.
That's an indicator of how fucked up he is.
That he's not even aware of the danger that he's in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
But he's got, I think, some bad demons, you know?
joe rogan
Well, he's a movie star.
A big-time movie star.
And he's living amongst, like, real humble folk.
tait fletcher
Folks that maybe make $12,000 a year.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And he's kind of flaunting it around.
That's fascinating.
tait fletcher
And loaded a lot.
joe rogan
Does he have, like, handlers or security?
tait fletcher
One of my friends used to work for him and would procure shit for him.
joe rogan
Procure shit for him.
unidentified
Yeah.
tait fletcher
Like, I don't know exactly what all his life is like.
joe rogan
Cryptic statement.
Procure shit for him.
Yeah, what happened?
He just decided to take his movie star money and just check out for a few years?
tait fletcher
Last time I saw him, I did a show called Felon that he was the star of, but he was absent the whole time.
And then I saw him on some Indian Grammys type shit, and he could barely get sentences together.
It was like watching Bob Dylan perform.
It was just like, it was sad, man.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
tait fletcher
But they are talking.
joe rogan
Why does Bob Dylan can't get sentenced to that?
tait fletcher
Dude, last time I saw him perform, it was like just slobbery drunk.
joe rogan
Bob Dylan was?
Come on, really?
tait fletcher
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Bob Dylan gets hammered?
tait fletcher
Oh, he was at that time.
joe rogan
Where was this?
tait fletcher
It was on some big award show.
It was like the Emmys or the Grammys or something like that that he was performing.
Whoa, I never heard of that.
There was a huge black woman that was singing backup that ended up taking over kind of for him.
joe rogan
Really?
tait fletcher
It was embarrassingly so, yeah.
joe rogan
Why have I not heard this?
Bob Dylan drunk.
Dylan sings drunk.
I've never heard this.
I've never heard a bad word about Bob Dylan.
That's one of the weird things.
He's one of those dudes, it's like, you know, you have to respect.
unidentified
He's not a bad word.
tait fletcher
He had a couple drinks, you know?
Let's give him a break.
joe rogan
Okay, Brian, go to Bob Dylan singing drunk on stage on YouTube.
Yeah.
Maybe just old, dude.
Old dudes don't talk so well.
unidentified
Well, it could be.
tait fletcher
Who knows?
joe rogan
Get to a certain level.
You see it?
Let's see how drunk he sounds.
Oh, can you get some volume?
unidentified
Oh, this seems like a fake video.
joe rogan
Why'd he say that?
unidentified
Because it's...
Alright, we'll see.
What is that?
tait fletcher
Brian, I'll suss it out.
joe rogan
Do you know how to get noise out of it this time?
unidentified
Yeah, it's got noise.
joe rogan
It's just not loading up.
unidentified
And it's got...
tait fletcher
What's the tip-off that it's fake, Brian?
joe rogan
Here it goes.
unidentified
Honestly, that could just be him.
joe rogan
That's just someone being old.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's off.
But there was something else.
tait fletcher
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, if you Google it, there's apparently a bunch of them.
Bob Dylan drunk another one.
tait fletcher
So tell me about your kettlebells.
joe rogan
What about them?
You want to know?
tait fletcher
I want to know, are they shaped like monkeys?
joe rogan
Can't talk about that right now.
tait fletcher
Really?
Are they not out yet?
joe rogan
No.
tait fletcher
Really?
joe rogan
I can't tell you that, man.
tait fletcher
Because I need to buy kettlebells for the gym.
joe rogan
I'll get you some.
tait fletcher
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll get you a thumb through on it.
But the kettlebells that we have are the same ones from Troy.
You know, those big fat handles.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They're excellent.
tait fletcher
Awesome.
joe rogan
They're the shit.
You still have that kettlebell studio?
tait fletcher
Yeah, I've got a CrossFit jiu-jitsu gym.
joe rogan
In Santa Fe?
tait fletcher
My 10th Planet Satellite has got a CrossFit gym in it in Santa Fe.
joe rogan
Are you going to train down here while you're in town?
tait fletcher
Yeah, yeah.
I'm down at Scottie's usually.
Cool.
Down on Pico.
joe rogan
Where is he at?
tait fletcher
He's at Pico and Doheny.
joe rogan
Okay.
Yeah, I don't get down there, man.
tait fletcher
10thPlanetWestLA.com.
joe rogan
West LA. Scott Epstein.
There's so many different satellites now.
tait fletcher
Dude, there's how many?
How many?
50?
joe rogan
I don't know.
He's got a lot of different screens.
tait fletcher
I know.
I want to go see Alders, too, dude.
I haven't seen Alders in a long time.
joe rogan
It's at a good Muay Thai gym, too, which is a nice little pro.
tait fletcher
Nice.
I see he's got a lot of fighters there.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've got to find a good Muay Thai gym, someplace to do some Muay Thai.
I need to mix it up a little bit.
tait fletcher
Do you want to spar or what do you want to do?
Then why don't you just get a guy to hold pads?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's good.
I like to do drills too.
Just the rattle in the dome is not good for you.
tait fletcher
Nope.
joe rogan
I know too many dudes who are getting a little weird just from sparring.
tait fletcher
How many people that don't quit soon enough?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a tricky thing, isn't it?
I mean, you retired.
For folks who don't know, Tate was on Season 2, The Ultimate Fighter.
tait fletcher
Three.
joe rogan
Three?
Season three.
Michael Bisping's the year that Bisping won.
Tate was on that, and you had a couple fights after that, and you're like, you know what?
tait fletcher
Yeah, you just get diminishing returns after a while, and you've got to make that choice, I think, and go, what...
What's the payoff here?
And even if you're really getting really big, big payoffs, like Chuck Liddell money at that time or something like that, it's like, what is the payoff of forever kind of having, like, thinking everything clearly?
Because I've been knocked out a couple times, and there's There's times after that where you know that you're not enunciating.
Or you have to really think.
You have to really put thought into your mechanisms to get the words out clearly.
But you're thinking it clearly, but it's just not going to your mouth.
When I thought that, I'd be like, holy fuck.
And I talked to Jardine about it a lot.
And he's like, yeah, I'm doing crossword puzzles.
I'm like, me too.
Every morning we're doing crossword puzzles after sparring.
It's fucking crazy, dude.
joe rogan
That's what George Foreman said, too.
tait fletcher
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
I don't know that it helped.
Not George, but myself.
You wonder what that is.
You would talk about it always ringing in my head that they don't even know until 10 years after the concussion.
What the damage is.
And then I start thinking about residual damage, like not even knockouts, but dudes that are just getting jarred.
It's like you're getting fucking jarred all the time.
And like, even just wrestlers, man, like our football players, everybody gets it.
It's not just people with head trauma that's directly, it's like, it's the vibration in your body and the shaking of that head, you know?
I mean, I know stuntmen that have it too, but Yeah.
It's a real dangerous thing, and it's something to really be cognitive about and to go, what is enough, and where do I go from here, and what will the rest of my life be?
And the big thing, I think, with fighters especially is, like, here's a bunch of dudes that, you know, there's not everybody that's a Kenny Florian or something like that.
And by that, I mean, like, a career in law, perhaps, that he was going to have, right?
Wasn't he a law student at one time?
joe rogan
I'm not sure, but, you know, he's going to be fine.
tait fletcher
There's a bunch of highly educated fighters, you know what I mean, that are out there.
And now, yeah, he's got a great job as a, He also has a gym.
joe rogan
He has his own gym.
I know he still has a place.
I think he opened up a place in Beverly Hills, too, where he's going to.
tait fletcher
Oh, right on.
joe rogan
Yeah, he knows what to do.
I mean, Kenny Florian's a really smart guy.
tait fletcher
But there's that kind of thing, and that's only so many guys.
And so then you think...
You know, all these guys that were working construction or that were working as bouncers or whatever, what am I? Because now I'm a fighter.
It's kind of a heralded thing.
And people are like in the store and they go, oh, look, he's a fighter.
And like, what are you now, though?
And that kind of getting to the root of yourself at the end of your career and going, who am I without this?
Or if you move to a new place, like a new city, and you don't have the same job, you don't have the same friends, you don't have the same girlfriend, you're broke.
Like, who are you now without any money in your pocket, without any of that?
Yeah.
And really getting to the base of yourself as a human.
And it's a scary question.
I think that that is the reason that guys stay too long in those sports is because they're like, well, fuck, what would I be without this?
And to me, that always seemed like a prison.
Like I never wanted to be in a position where I was going, oh, well, I'm a slave to this because I don't know what else would be possible.
And I'm like, I want to live in that infinite possibility that anything's possible.
And let's go jump off the cliff and see what's down there, you know?
joe rogan
Apparently, Bob Dylan was in a motorcycle accident.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
And he was talked into by his band into getting speech therapy because he was in sort of denial about a slurring of the words after the motorcycle accident.
tait fletcher
How dare me?
joe rogan
That's apparently the story online according to some dude on my message board named KM Design.
tait fletcher
My apologies to Bob Dylan and his family.
joe rogan
But you think a good guy who's that creative probably has some demons, probably just getting lit up every night.
Maybe he just gets drunk and he's got a head injury.
unidentified
Maybe he's got a great publicist.
tait fletcher
Maybe he was getting hammered and he's like, I need a good excuse.
He went and got himself a motorcycle accident.
joe rogan
I'm a victim.
Well, I remember clearly when fucking Crazy Man had that motorcycle accident where he hit, what the fuck's his name, the guy who's always crazy on those reality shows, the older guy, Lethal Weapon, Gary Busey.
Gary Busey had a legit, serious impact with a curb in his fucking head and almost died.
And his head changed shape.
If you look at his face, pre-motorcycle accident and post-motorcycle accident, one of his eyes moved up or moved down.
tait fletcher
I saw a guy fall out of a car today.
They're taking a right off of Olympic.
And I saw the door was open on the car.
And then they go to start taking the right.
And I see a hand reach out to grab the door.
And he bends the corner.
And I'm kind of looking back.
unidentified
And boop, boop, boop.
tait fletcher
The dude falls out.
I was like, how does that even happen?
unidentified
This is so weird that you asked this.
brian redban
In the last week, I've seen maybe three or four people fall on the ground.
Like I'm driving and I just see like a woman fall.
Three or four times this week I've seen it.
Have you noticed any people falling lately?
unidentified
No.
brian redban
Is this just a coincidence that I keep watching all these people falling?
tait fletcher
Does this have to do with chemtrails?
unidentified
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
Tower 7 falling.
unidentified
Call Lady Bravo.
joe rogan
Call Lady Bravo.
See if there's a falling conspiracy.
He'll tell you it's orbs.
Something in the air.
Chemtrails making people fall.
I don't know.
Do you really think there's a conspiracy that people are falling?
unidentified
I don't know.
brian redban
I'm just saying like this week, for some reason, I've seen so many people fall where I'm just like driving by like, should I help this person?
Oh, there's like an ambulance right there.
joe rogan
It's a terrible photo of a person in China today that was run over by a street flattening truck.
They were trying to get protesters out and the guy stood his ground.
tait fletcher
Like a paver.
joe rogan
Yeah, they ran over him.
Holy fuck.
Yeah, it's horrific.
tait fletcher
It's like Tiananmen Square all over again.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is.
In China, they'll still run you over, man.
They're not quite there yet here.
tait fletcher
No recourse.
joe rogan
They're not quite that yet here, but as long as the government keeps passing shit like the NDAA, that's around the corner.
The flattening you with a steamroller act.
tait fletcher
And now you can't occupy Wall Street, goddammit.
He made that a felony to peaceably protest without a permit.
And so now that's a felonious act to go and assemble to protest corporations, which our fucking government is simply a shadow for anyway.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
It's weird.
tait fletcher
Gross.
joe rogan
It's like, how much can you just enjoy it and just live life and try to be cool in your own community and be surrounded by your own...
You try to only rock it that way, but you gotta always think that these motherfuckers could come in and fuck up your shit and think that they're allowed to.
It's like, you really aren't that much connected to someone who lives in Washington, D.C. You're just not.
They're too far away.
It's really crazy.
But someone who's got a boner for you in Washington, D.C. that has power...
could decide to use it and find some reason to fuck you over and come after you, especially if you're involved in something that they've written down on paper that says you're not allowed to do.
tait fletcher
Or even if you're not and you're opposed to that thing publicly, then you're vilified and they can do whatever they want to get behind that.
And it makes me think those people just haven't had some nice steamed broccoli and a steak.
Get yourself a good ribeye, medium, and go and help some people.
What feels fucking better than helping people?
Go out and help.
As far as how we can shove people down and how we can control people, how about you help people?
There's an enrichment there.
And then when everybody does better, everybody fucking does better.
And it's a fucking universal law, you cocksuckers.
joe rogan
It is, but the problem is you're dealing with people that, first of all, are completely unenlightened.
And again, they're operating...
The people that are in power now, besides Obama, who's essentially a child of the internet.
I mean, he existed before the internet, but he's had massive amounts of access to it since the 1990s when it was around.
So he's basically grown, maybe not grown up, but grown with it.
But the other people that are in...
If you look at a Newt Gingrich type character or Dick Cheney...
Those guys are operating on the old way.
They're operating the old way of corruption when you can get away with shit, like on Rand Contra.
You can bribe off judges and figure out a way to sneak shit under the door and change the law so it makes what you're doing legal.
And that is the way they've been rocking it since the beginning of time.
It's going to take the next generation coming up.
We hear this guy, David Seaman, on the podcast, who is a congressional candidate, or is a congressional candidate.
He's 26 years old, and he's trying to expose all the bullshit that's going on in politics and with the lobbyists.
It's so much for a young guy to take on if you really want a career in cleaning up corruption and you want to actually live and not get sniped.
tait fletcher
Or become a pedophile or whatever else they put on you.
They can make him whatever.
That's the scary part.
joe rogan
Or go, you know what?
tait fletcher
We'll give you $5 million.
We have that.
That's easy money.
Just get on board.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they can figure out a way to compromise you nice and slowly.
tait fletcher
Nicely and slowly.
They just slow cook your ass.
joe rogan
Didn't they do that with Kennedy?
They brought him down to Cuba and got him some hookers and shit.
Maryland.
They paid for Maryland.
They paid for Maryland?
unidentified
Maryland went down there and paid her like...
joe rogan
I think you're making shit up now.
unidentified
A thousand dollars?
joe rogan
I see that face.
tait fletcher
A thousand?
joe rogan
That's the I'm making shit up face.
tait fletcher
It's only a thousand from Alan.
unidentified
She wasn't that expensive.
joe rogan
What do you think a thousand bucks is worth in the Maryland and Monroe days?
It's probably, like, could you get a car for a thousand bucks?
unidentified
Yeah.
tait fletcher
Is that six grand?
joe rogan
Really?
tait fletcher
Well, they were talking about what's, like, a brand new Mustang, like, when the Fastback came out, like, 65, like, 3,500 bucks or something like that?
joe rogan
New Mustang.
Nineteen price.
Let's go with 1963. Okay.
tait fletcher
Because I think a Fastback, if you got a Fastback or you could have Maryland for a week, that's probably comparable.
Yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
What, a Fastback or Maryland for a week?
tait fletcher
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, you need a Fleshlight and a Mustang.
That's what you need.
Pretend.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Pretend.
A week, you kill yourself.
You'd be like, I can't believe I could have had a fucking 1963 Mustang.
tait fletcher
I could have had a Fleshlight.
unidentified
I could have had a V8. I'm going to a Fleshlight party tomorrow.
joe rogan
Oh, are you really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fascinating.
Are you going to talk to girls there, Brian?
unidentified
Texas, Texas is going to be there.
tait fletcher
Awesome!
Big old booty on her, right?
I've seen her on film.
joe rogan
That girl is proof that men don't give a fuck about skinny, like, stick figure type chicks.
tait fletcher
Thick legs and ass.
Thank you very much.
joe rogan
That girl is at least five pounds overweight.
tait fletcher
And a smile!
Does she ever not have a smile?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Even when she's blowing, guys.
She's smiling.
unidentified
I've always wanted to meet her.
joe rogan
These are all Mustangs for sale.
It doesn't really say what it cost back then.
Oh, wait a minute.
tait fletcher
What if we do like a Price Circa?
joe rogan
There's a bunch of different sites.
unidentified
Missy Martinez.
tait fletcher
I don't know who that is.
joe rogan
Who's Missy Martinez?
My new favorite.
You know, like, you're ahead of the curve, kid.
tait fletcher
He's got the ones that just moved from Arkansas.
They've been here three weeks.
brian redban
Caden Cross, you know her?
unidentified
She's hot.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen her before.
tait fletcher
Sam Tripoli?
joe rogan
Sam Tripoli is the hottest one.
tait fletcher
Is he going to be there with the twins?
unidentified
Yeah, I heard Brian Callen's going to be there.
That seems like a bad idea.
joe rogan
Why is that a bad idea, Brian?
tait fletcher
Why is it a bad idea?
brian redban
Just so many hot chicks.
unidentified
He's going to go crazy.
tait fletcher
He's a handsome guy.
brian redban
He's going to kill him with his comedy.
tait fletcher
Who's better looking than Brian Callen, really?
joe rogan
Probably you.
unidentified
He's romantic.
joe rogan
And then next in line, Brian.
tait fletcher
I'm still waiting for Brian to take me to Olive Garden.
unidentified
Oh, it can happen.
joe rogan
And what's going to happen when you get there, Tate?
tait fletcher
We're going to have a sensible meal.
brian redban
We're going to have butter coffee.
tait fletcher
What happens at Olive Garden?
I don't even know what happens behind those doors, Brian.
joe rogan
A soldier had hiccups, okay?
And one soldier was trying to scare this soldier out of his hiccups.
And the way he did it was shooting him in the face.
tait fletcher
That would work, I guess, to cure the hiccups.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
That seems like the worst excuse for shooting your buddy ever.
joe rogan
And he's being charged with manslaughter.
This is just...
tait fletcher
Not murder.
joe rogan
No.
tait fletcher
Because he had a stupid excuse.
joe rogan
He pulled out a gun in order to scare him and stop the hiccups and the gun went off.
tait fletcher
That's crazy.
joe rogan
And he blew the guy's brains off.
I feel like if you make that poor decision, we should put you in prison anyway, regardless if it's Well, when you think about these guys that have been over there and have seen action, if you've ever seen some of those soldiers against the Iraq war where they talk about all the different shit that their commanding officers told them to do, and the first guy who gets a knife kill gets days off, and they're lucky to kill people with knives.
And you go from that to the regular world.
tait fletcher
It's true.
It's a different thing.
joe rogan
You can't...
It's almost like you have to...
tait fletcher
You've got friends that were in Blackwater or that were Force Recon Marines and shit, and it's like...
It's a different thing that they live with.
Years, I think.
joe rogan
Maybe never.
tait fletcher
Six years or something before my one buddy didn't want to shoot himself in the face.
Like every day afterwards.
And you live through shit like that.
You're at a young age and you're asked to do horrific, unimaginable things for a cause that then it comes to light eventually if you're a thinking person and all that.
We're not even supposed to do...
This is unjust.
joe rogan
Isn't it amazing how our depictions of...
If you look at theatrical depictions or romantic movies about war, very little of them dealt with the real horrors of war.
tait fletcher
Look at our fucking news.
I mean, if you go to Spain or something and look at the news, there's bodies.
There's body parts.
There's the horror of what death is.
And here in America, we don't have any of that stuff.
joe rogan
That's why we have 9% unemployment and Spain has 25% tape.
tait fletcher
Is that why?
joe rogan
That's the reason?
Yeah, it's bad.
It keeps people out of work.
tait fletcher
I had no idea.
joe rogan
If you want to see violence on TV and reality on TV, you hate America.
tait fletcher
Oh.
joe rogan
We're not ready for that.
tait fletcher
Oh.
That makes sense.
joe rogan
Who do I vote for?
Imagine what it's like for people that have this, like, well, I've talked to a fucking guy.
I talked to a guy who was at the Ice House a couple of weeks ago who came and told me about, he actually joined the army to try to pay for school, and then a month later, September 11th happened.
Yeah, so he got shipped off to Iraq, and he was telling me about what an insane clusterfuck it is, and then how when he first got there, right when he got there, he was like, well, I guess at least we're coming over here, getting rid of a dictator, getting rid of stopping something like September 11th happening, and then his commanding officer said, what the fuck are you talking about?
We're here to get oil.
That's what we're here for.
His commanding officer broke it down for him on the way...
tait fletcher
My stepmom was like that.
She was like...
Well, we're giving freedom to those people and this and that.
I'm like, if that were even true, tell the mom in Minnesota who just fucking got her boy back in a bag about Iraqi freedom.
Who gives a fuck?
These are dead people.
We're going to push freedom at the end of a gun.
That makes sense.
joe rogan
It's the ultimate irony, too, because we got that guy in power.
The idea that this dictator...
How did he become a dictator?
He got a dictator because he's backed by the United States.
tait fletcher
How about Noriega?
And then Noriega says, I'm not playing ball.
And they say, well, we're going to kidnap you then.
A sovereign leader from another country.
We send in special ops and kidnap him.
joe rogan
The only place where they rock it in a healthy way is places like fucking Iceland and shit.
You gotta go where it's really cold and no one wants to go there.
tait fletcher
And those people are down for their country.
You don't have fucking food that's bad for you.
I mean, you can eat shit, but there's not a conspiracy to hurt the populace.
It's like the government is for the populace there.
I think it's because it's small enough there's only like 300,000 people in Iceland or something like that.
It's very small.
joe rogan
You could throw bankers in jail there, too.
They do shit like that.
tait fletcher
Well, I just watched Lawless.
It's fucking rad.
joe rogan
What is that?
tait fletcher
It's a movie about moonshiners.
And during Prohibition, Tom Hardy's in it.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
That's a good movie?
tait fletcher
Dude, it was fun, man.
joe rogan
Did it just come out?
tait fletcher
Yeah, I just saw it last night.
joe rogan
I haven't heard shit about that.
You hear anything about that?
tait fletcher
It was good.
You're going to like it.
joe rogan
Really?
tait fletcher
And the way they deal with the law, they're like...
A couple of sheriffs come through and they're like, you're trying to intimidate us.
And fucking the brass knuckles come out and shit.
It's like, as long as you're righteous, everything's cool.
Yeah, we'll honor that badge.
But if you try to get silly, you want to extort money from us, hmm, alright.
We're going to talk with a bat.
It's wild.
joe rogan
Well, that's how people lived back then.
I mean, if there was really a time where it was fair.
tait fletcher
Right, exactly.
joe rogan
And we look at it, you know, it's like good guys and bad guys.
No, it's bad guys and other bad guys.
tait fletcher
Yeah, it's all bad guys.
joe rogan
It's all bad guys back then.
tait fletcher
It's all bad guys.
joe rogan
And that's, you know, we're the end of that.
We are as far as humanity has ever gone.
What we are today, September, what is it, 27th or something?
What is it?
tait fletcher
25 or 6?
joe rogan
December 25th.
September 25th, 2012. What we are today is the accumulation of error upon error, of human error, learning, And improving upon that and society moving forward, technological innovation, conquering different countries.
We're at the end of that line.
This is like as good as people have ever been, ever.
Like right now.
The most capable we've ever been.
tait fletcher
That's what we think.
joe rogan
The most information access.
tait fletcher
What about all the sand people?
joe rogan
All those motherfuckers.
tait fletcher
No!
The people that have turned to sand, like the iPhone.
What about all the other civilizations?
joe rogan
Oh, the people that got whacked out, you mean?
tait fletcher
Yeah, I mean, who knows if they were the most advanced.
joe rogan
They didn't make it.
Yeah, I wonder.
I wonder if there's been other civilizations.
They keep finding shit.
unidentified
They keep finding these old cities.
tait fletcher
Did you hear about that telescope?
You ever listen to that dude?
A black guy used to work for NASA. Tyson Degrassi?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
Man!
joe rogan
Neil Tyson Degrassi.
tait fletcher
Dude, that motherfucker is badass.
joe rogan
I'm going to get him on the podcast.
I'm trying to get him on.
I'm going back and forth with him.
tait fletcher
Oh, dude.
I'll give him a foot massage if he comes in.
joe rogan
Whoa, would you really?
Oil or dry?
tait fletcher
Absolutely.
If you wanted oil, I would do that.
joe rogan
Oil's nice.
tait fletcher
I would do some lotion.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Oil's nice.
tait fletcher
For sure.
Yeah.
I mean, my hands are like pumiced and jerking off of them is like torture, but...
joe rogan
I think if there was really advanced societies, it's very unlikely that they reach this level, except for some of the giant stone constructions.
That's the only thing that makes you really step back and go, man, I'm not sure about that.
tait fletcher
Or that it was intercontinental, that the same construction existed in different continents.
That's crazy.
But he was talking, anyway, I was listening to that dude, Degrassi, Degrassi.
And he was saying that they have a telescope that's like, I don't know if it's a hundred or a thousand, what he said times the Hubble telescope was.
That they could construct, but it would be $10 billion.
And that they just wouldn't fund it.
And he said, to put it in perspective, what $10 billion was, is what from 1956 or whenever NASA was created, what has been in that program since then, has been about that.
Or what one month in Afghanistan is, is $10 billion.
But they won't fucking make this telescope, which they say...
They think they could see the origins of fucking time.
That you could look back through space and see the origins, but we don't want that.
That would upset the apple cart.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Isn't there a good contract to be made in building that thing?
That $10 billion it costs to build that.
Wouldn't there be a company that can profit off of that?
tait fletcher
Dude, you gotta get him on.
He would be fascinating as fuck.
joe rogan
That is an amazing thing when you really look at that number.
Like, how much money that is.
tait fletcher
And what it is, really.
I mean, and these guys are talking about, oh, the president, whoever's the naysayer against whatever president it is, there's trillions of dollars.
That doesn't even mean anything to me.
You might as well say, we're headphones in debt.
Like, okay, like, I don't, like, cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, when you get to, like, be 13 trillion, it's insurmountable, right?
tait fletcher
We're 1,400,000 ampules in debt.
Like, I don't know what any of that shit looks like.
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, and how does that work again?
The Federal Reserve is, what is the Federal Reserve?
Nobody understands it.
I used to think they understood it until the crash, and then I was like, oh, you guys don't get it either.
tait fletcher
I got a bunch of fucking $100 bills, the old school little small head $100 bills.
Dude, they're all in Louisiana.
And then I'm thinking, what is all the old-ass money that's around here that's just buried and in mattresses?
Those are mansions fucking everywhere around there.
joe rogan
But at one point in time, is it worth anything?
When your money goes out of print, if you had some Civil War-era money, it's not good anymore.
tait fletcher
It's got to be in real good shape if it's good, because I watch Pawn Wars.
joe rogan
Yeah, but even then, someone has to buy it.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not like you can go in the bank and go, hey, can you give me a million dollars?
This is my million dollars in 1902. They had totally different money back then.
tait fletcher
It's weird that gold still has value in that way, since it doesn't back anything anymore, really.
joe rogan
Yeah, right?
Yeah, what does it mean?
Well, it's still good for things, conducting.
tait fletcher
Like the Anunnaki.
joe rogan
The Anunnaki.
It's good as a conductor.
It's good if you want to have better looking teeth.
You can bling them up.
You ever thought about rocking a gold tooth?
tait fletcher
Yeah, I got this one's fake right here.
So I was thinking of doing platinum or something.
Right off to the side too.
joe rogan
That would be pretty dope.
That would be kind of pirate-like.
tait fletcher
People are like, oh, your career would be fucked up.
I'm like, as if looking like Cindy Crawford has ever been my career.
Being more fucked up looking would be bad.
I got a big old pumpkin head and tattoos everywhere.
joe rogan
Your career.
tait fletcher
Isn't that hilarious?
joe rogan
People are so funny about what they think will and won't ruin your career.
They got it figured out.
tait fletcher
I love that line, those that tell you how to do it never did it.
It's such uncharted territory, the whole thing.
If you want to live a different life, then it's like get up, go to work, fucking go back to get married, go to church, all that shit.
unidentified
You should go super crazy and get some breast implants.
tait fletcher
That's the lady that I'm talking about.
She did that show.
joe rogan
Brian, why would you even say that?
That doesn't even...
Because if he wants to...
tait fletcher
Because he's so attracted to me already.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He wants you to be a woman.
tait fletcher
That he wants me to...
joe rogan
But he doesn't understand.
If you had a relationship with Tate, you would be the woman.
unidentified
No.
tait fletcher
You know, the most of my...
Are you kidding me, Brian?
unidentified
No.
We could prove that right now.
tait fletcher
I don't know who you think is coming through the door to help you.
unidentified
Well...
If you want to show off in front of Joe, we all know.
joe rogan
We all know where your love lies.
tait fletcher
Yeah, dawg.
joe rogan
Tate Fletcher.
Follow Tate on Twitter, ladies and gentlemen.
Tatamus Maximus on Twitter.
And if people are in Santa Fe and they want to go to your gym, what's the gym?
tait fletcher
Undisputed Fitness.
joe rogan
Undisputed Fitness.
tait fletcher
You can find that at UndisputedFitness.com or CrossFitSantaFe.com.
joe rogan
And look for Tate in Fright Night.
Powerful 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu Santa Fe.
I saw Tate in Fright Night.
That was a good goddamn movie.
That was a good movie.
tait fletcher
It was fun, huh?
joe rogan
Fun!
Good vampire movie.
It was a real vampire, not some fucking pussy that can go outside and sparkle.
tait fletcher
Yeah, yeah, I like that.
joe rogan
It was real.
tait fletcher
Dude, but the big thing's coming up, dude, that Arnold Schwarzenegger, they just started doing, for Expendables, they did the trailer, and it's called The Last Stand, and there's some awesome shit that I did in there, just fucking wrecking myself.
It's fucking fun, dude.
joe rogan
And that's in The Expendables?
tait fletcher
That'll be coming up in January.
No, they just did the trailer for Expendables.
joe rogan
Oh, during Expendables.
tait fletcher
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, what is the name of that movie?
tait fletcher
The Last Stand.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I heard about that.
tait fletcher
It's Arnold Schwarzenegger's comeback to film.
joe rogan
Is it good?
Is it fun?
tait fletcher
It was fun to do.
Who knows what it looks like after they...
joe rogan
Did you hang with him?
tait fletcher
Yeah, he was cool as shit, dude.
He was funny.
I mean, he's got jokes about Maria.
joe rogan
Really?
tait fletcher
Like, he's in the bus, we're filming the scene.
And the phone's supposed to ring, and it's supposed to be the terrorist.
Like, my boss is supposed to be calling them, and they're rolling.
And I don't know, dude, when, like, the way I look at it, like, I'm nobody.
And, like, when they're, like, to have a shot fucked up because of you, I'd be, like, mortified, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
tait fletcher
He's there, and they're rolling, and they got it going, and everything's going good, and da-da-da-da-da, and the phone rings, and he's like, hello?
And he says...
Maria, I told you to never call me here.
Right in front of production.
He's funny, man.
joe rogan
Wow.
So he sends the tension.
tait fletcher
And super cool, laid back, just sets everybody at ease.
He eats in the cafeteria with...
He's just a fucking cool guy, man.
joe rogan
He's just banging housekeepers and maids and shit on the regular.
tait fletcher
I heard he was getting back together with...
joe rogan
Really?
tait fletcher
That's what I heard.
I don't know.
But he's super kind, man.
I don't have a bad thing to say about that, dude.
joe rogan
He's an interesting cat, that's for sure.
tait fletcher
And all his people were super cool, man.
unidentified
Really?
tait fletcher
Yeah, everybody was dope around him.
joe rogan
Because they're always depleted of sperm.
They're constantly just coming.
Coming all the time.
All the time I'm coming.
Coming, coming.
tait fletcher
I thought about, I'm like, what do you call him?
Like, Mr. Schwarzenegger, Arnold, the governor?
Because most people that are in office, they're the governor or the president forever, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tait fletcher
And then I'm like, fuck that.
Anybody can be the governor.
Arnold is like, that's a whole establishment unto itself, man.
That is a boss.
joe rogan
He's a brand.
He's certainly a brand.
All right, tomorrow we got Ian Edwards, ladies and gentlemen.
Very funny comic from New York who's now living here in Lloch Angeles.
He will be with us tomorrow.
And again, this weekend, I'm with Duncan Trussell.
Joey Diaz is a no-show.
tait fletcher
No.
joe rogan
Some new thing came up that he had to do, so he can't make it.
unidentified
Like a fucker, fucker.
joe rogan
Hey, you can find him, Mad Flavor.
Contact him.
unidentified
I told Joe Rogan I wasn't doing that fucking gig.
joe rogan
This weekend, Raleigh, North Carolina, Friday night, we're at Memorial Hall.
And Saturday night, we're in Asheville at the Thomas Wolfe Auditorium.
And I keep hearing that Asheville is the shit.
I hear it's so fucking beautiful.
Have you been up there?
unidentified
Yeah, it's beautiful.
joe rogan
It's supposed to be unbelievable.
It's up in the mountains.
It's supposed to be just gorgeous as shit.
Yeah, people go there and they go, I gotta live here.
So we'll see.
We'll see.
tait fletcher
I got a bunch of friends there right now.
They're doing Iron Man 3 out there.
unidentified
Powerful Iron Man 3. That's the hat I'm wearing right now, maybe.
joe rogan
Is it?
Yeah, maybe it is.
All right, listen.
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unidentified
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unidentified
You see a lot of them?
Cool.
joe rogan
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Alright, you fucking freaks.
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It was fucking bananas!
Had a great time.
Thanks to Sam Tripoli for hooking it up, as well as Ari Shafir.
Ari's new CD comes out today, ladies and gentlemen.
Awesome.
unidentified
Check out the CD cover of that.
Have you seen that?
joe rogan
If you go, put it up.
Put it up.
If you go to Ari Shafir, S-H-A-F-F-I-R, on Twitter, unknown code it says?
Come on, you know what I'm talking about, Twitter?
Why are you trying to pretend?
I'm going blind.
I can't even read what I'm writing on Twitter.
If you go to Ari's website, it'll show you how to get it.
You can get it from his website, which is AriTheGreat.com.
unidentified
Check that out.
That's so awesome.
tait fletcher
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
I saw that.
joe rogan
Revenge for the Holocaust.
He's a big Jew spider going after Hitler.
unidentified
I hope he doesn't hurt him.
joe rogan
What, the Jew spider?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Good night.
Good night.
Shut it off.
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