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Sept. 6, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #261 - Ari Shaffir
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joe rogan
Thanks, buddy.
Bye.
ari shaffir
Did we start again?
Did we do the ads again?
joe rogan
Listen, folks.
I'm a retard.
I'm a little tech friend.
My technologically enhanced friend.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know how the fuck to do this.
I'm just winging this shit, son.
ari shaffir
It's the best.
Just guessing and flipping cues.
You were able to fade the song out?
joe rogan
Yeah, I did a good job with that.
Let me make sure that if I switch to this view that people still hear it.
People still hear it.
unidentified
Beautiful.
joe rogan
Whoa.
I'm a retard bro.
ari shaffir
You just don't know the system.
joe rogan
I'm a retarded person.
ari shaffir
Trust me.
joe rogan
I got in an argument with someone in the middle of the argument.
They go, what's seven times 40?
unidentified
And I'm like, I don't fucking know.
joe rogan
We're upset at each other.
I can't do math.
The fuck you asked me to do math?
What kind of tricks is that?
Are you trying to make me think I'm stupid?
ari shaffir
What does that have to do with it?
Well, it's like, mission accomplished.
I don't know.
It's a lot of numbers.
joe rogan
I'm dumb with numbers, dude.
I'm really dumb with numbers.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have to really force myself.
Because when I was a kid, I just had really bad times in math.
I thought it was so boring.
I had a terrible attitude about it.
I never had anybody who was an enthusiastic math teacher.
And my teachers were not terrible, terrible teachers.
They just were bored.
They just were uninspired.
They weren't really into...
I remember one time there was a documentary on...
About Lake Erie.
There was this one crazy science professor in our class.
Science teacher, I guess.
Mr. Holman.
And he was always, like, late with the facts.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was always, like, you know, some shit that was true, like, a while ago.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He would not be, like, kept up to it.
So this thing was about...
ari shaffir
He just kept saying...
joe rogan
Yeah.
It was about Lake Erie.
ari shaffir
He was like, the world's not round.
It's oval.
joe rogan
He was insisting that Lake Erie was a dying lake.
And I said...
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you know, a dead lake, because Lake Erie really has been...
ari shaffir
Is it going to dry up?
joe rogan
No, really badly polluted.
ari shaffir
Oh, so there's no life in it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think Lake Erie had to make a big comeback, but they cleaned it up.
And there was a whole documentary that was on PBS really recently, like the night before.
And me and another kid in the class were talking about the documentary.
I was like, we just saw something on PBS that said it's making this comeback to show all these fishermen.
- Yeah, that's PBS.
- Yes, exactly. - When it's some guy who went to school 40 years ago. - But he didn't even listen to us.
He dismissed it.
He didn't want to talk about it.
He didn't acknowledge that maybe there was possibly some new data that he had been teaching some shit that somebody figured out in 1980 or something.
Back then, you weren't really on top of shit.
You weren't really on top of what the fuck is going on in the news.
If you're freeballing on stage in front of the class telling people, and that's why Lake Erie is a dead lake.
Yeah.
And then some kid goes, no, it's not dead.
There was a whole documentary on TV, man.
ari shaffir
And he said, fuck you?
unidentified
No way.
joe rogan
He didn't listen.
He didn't even want to acknowledge it.
Whereas if you said that to me, if I was saying, obviously I'm not a fucking teacher.
But if you, for whatever reason, were talking to me about that, and you brought up that PBS ran a whole documentary on it, I would have to go, ooh, I didn't see that.
I would have to go, oh, wow, is this new stuff?
Maybe there's some improvements.
Well, that's good news.
It's good news that science can actually clean up the ocean and the rivers and the lakes as well as fuck them up.
ari shaffir
You're happily surprised to hear it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's nice.
Well, it is beautiful that they have made some pretty significant, they have had some pretty significant results in cleaning up some types of spills.
They've come up with new types of bacteria that actually eat oil and can help clean up places like the Gulf and situations like that.
ari shaffir
Really?
Yeah.
You know what I heard about that pile of plastic that you always talk about?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
When they say, how big is it?
Like twice the size of Texas?
unidentified
Right.
ari shaffir
They said that's such a humongously gross exaggeration.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
It's less than one one-hundredth of the size of Texas.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
And they said that kind of exaggeration discredits the actual problem that's there.
because it makes people write off everything.
It's humongous.
But Texas is massive.
joe rogan
Right, right.
So they're just being like typical liberals?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Anyone wants to make sure everyone knows about it.
It's like, I held my breath for 10 seconds.
Oh, that's a long time.
Somebody else wants to be like, I held my breath for 5 minutes.
And you're like, no you didn't.
You went too far.
joe rogan
Well, you can do that.
There was a guy, that David Blaine guy, I think holds the world record.
ari shaffir
Held his breath for five minutes?
joe rogan
Oh, more than that.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, more than that.
I think he did something crazy, like 13 or 14 minutes.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's got the world record, I'm pretty sure.
ari shaffir
I'm crazy.
joe rogan
I know that sounds crazy.
ari shaffir
You think he trains?
13 or 14 minutes.
joe rogan
Sounds so stupid.
ari shaffir
Look that up.
joe rogan
You know where I'm getting this from?
Brian Callen.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Fucking love Brian Callen.
ari shaffir
And he had a hawk on his shoulder the whole time.
joe rogan
Brian Callen's a beautiful person.
Fucking love that dude.
It might be true, though.
Because David Blaine...
David Blaine, call him a magician.
Call him whatever the fuck you want to do.
I will call David Blaine a bad motherfucker.
Okay, because I couldn't stand in that ice for three days.
ari shaffir
Which one's David Blaine, the new one or the old one?
joe rogan
He's the crazy guy that would hang out in a box and just fucking live his life.
No, did he?
Did he do something like that?
ari shaffir
Somebody did that.
David Copperfield was the old one.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, that's the type of guy that would make the Statue of Liberty disappear.
ari shaffir
He would also abduct somebody in Aruba for fucking however long.
joe rogan
Breath world record.
ari shaffir
13 or 14. That'd be nuts.
I couldn't do it for 30 seconds.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm not that good at holding my breath.
ari shaffir
I'm going to try it right now.
joe rogan
You know what, Brian?
That was one of the greatest things anybody's ever said.
Okay, 17 and a...
Oh, my God!
ari shaffir
17 and a half minutes?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
17 minutes, four and a half seconds.
Holy shit!
ari shaffir
That's how long he did it for?
joe rogan
Yes!
Oh, my God!
This is insane, man.
unidentified
How the fuck did he do that?
joe rogan
That's not just kind of crazy.
Think of how long the time is between a sitcom scene starting and then they go to commercial.
How many is that?
How many minutes is that?
Is that seven minutes or something like that?
Two of those.
Dude, plus some.
That's a long time.
Think of like an episode of Friends.
Like two of those things that held the fucking crazy of Marshall.
Oh my god.
All before they go to commercial.
Think of that.
He's held his breath through that whole thing.
And then some.
ari shaffir
Two of those.
joe rogan
Yes.
Wow.
ari shaffir
That was just 40 seconds.
That seemed like forever.
unidentified
Yeah, he's a weird guy, man.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he goes all the way through the first break and the second break.
joe rogan
If that guy was a fighter, he would be a scary guy.
ari shaffir
David Blaine?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You ever see black people react to him?
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
What do they do?
ari shaffir
Black people still have a weird thing about magic.
And they react like, no!
No!
They push each other and shove and run away because they have that weird thing and they just can't say it's a trick.
They feel strange about it.
It's hilarious.
joe rogan
Wow.
They're scared of his magic?
ari shaffir
They're scared of magic in general.
joe rogan
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a racist thing to say.
ari shaffir
It's a racial observation.
I grew up with elders teaching me that black people are scared of magic.
joe rogan
I watched, by the way, a Jewish horror movie the other day.
ari shaffir
What was it?
It's this new movie...
joe rogan
No, this new movie, the...
unidentified
What the fuck is it called?
joe rogan
The Possession or some shit like that.
ari shaffir
About the Dybbuk box?
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
You saw that?
I think I auditioned for it.
Did you really?
I was like, really?
unidentified
I took a movie about this?
joe rogan
It was fucking good, man.
ari shaffir
About them holing up an evil spirit inside a box?
joe rogan
It was a good horror movie.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was no Apocalypse Now, but it was a fun horror movie.
I enjoyed the shit out of it.
The dude from The Watchmen that looks like Brad Garrett, but he's not Brad Garrett.
ari shaffir
Here's what I gotta start doing.
Yeah, I know that guy.
Here's what I gotta start doing.
I gotta start going to movies and saying this is just supposed to be dumb fun.
That's all this is supposed to be.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
Like Expendables or whatever.
joe rogan
That's all I'm down for.
I'm down for like the Avengers and werewolf movies.
ari shaffir
Just like let's root for the good guys and don't worry about it.
joe rogan
And I'll fuck around and see a Twilight movie with Mrs. Rogan if I get crazy.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Just to find out what the fuck is going on.
I'm going to go see Fifty Shades of Grey too, just to find out what the fuck is going on with the culture.
ari shaffir
That's a sex book, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's something going on with us, man.
ari shaffir
Well, here's what it is.
joe rogan
We're not getting our rocks off.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Girls want the porn just like we want it, but theirs is not what we want.
joe rogan
There's a romance porn.
There's a different kind of porn.
There's a vampire who will risk everything just to be with them.
ari shaffir
You know, guys.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
ari shaffir
Some will turn down their special power.
joe rogan
I've had conversations with a bunch of different people about this.
ari shaffir
But every girl's like, I want that kind of love too.
It's like, well, you don't get that.
You don't get that kind of love.
unidentified
That's not real.
joe rogan
There's no vampires.
ari shaffir
There's no vampires.
Nobody's giving up their power.
What are you...
joe rogan
Isn't that nuts?
ari shaffir
Somebody told me this the other day too.
It's like, wait, so that kid has been around?
Who told me this?
That guy has been around for 2,000 years and he's in love with a 16-year-old?
joe rogan
Exactly, that was me.
ari shaffir
Oh, that's who it was.
joe rogan
I said he was a fucking pervert, man.
ari shaffir
He was a piece of shit.
joe rogan
A thousand-year-old dude hanging out with a 17-year-old girl.
ari shaffir
That's crazy.
That was me, I know.
Yeah, it's like ridiculous.
joe rogan
That's so stupid.
It's such a stupid idea that he would still be in high school.
ari shaffir
And he's going to give up his power?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got to pretend he's in high school.
ari shaffir
For a six!
joe rogan
Well, I'm still in high school.
What, you can't pretend you're 18, you're out of school?
You can't pretend that.
unidentified
You look like you're 25. You can't just wander through the streets.
joe rogan
You gotta show up at school every day like everybody else.
ari shaffir
Put a little gray in your hair and go to a bar and hang out at night with regular people who are into regular things.
joe rogan
Shave your head, stupid.
ari shaffir
What do they get your references about the count?
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't have to tell people you're 17. You look like you're 25. Go, just go, go.
Leave school.
You can graduate this year.
What kind of nonsense is that?
He's going to keep enrolling in school?
ari shaffir
Is the truant officer going to stop a vampire from running around?
joe rogan
It's a whole family of vampires that only eat deer.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
The fuck are you saying?
You've got nice people vampires that run around eating deers?
ari shaffir
In those movies, let me ask you a question.
In those movies, do they already know everything that's being taught?
In school?
joe rogan
Yeah, they must know everything.
Make that guy sit there.
That's like some sort of a crazy torture.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Chinese water torture.
One water drips on you, it's no big deal.
But if water keeps dripping on you for a hundred hours, you might lose your fucking marbles.
ari shaffir
Like Groundhog Day.
joe rogan
Yeah, you might go crazy.
ari shaffir
By the year.
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck?
ari shaffir
Yeah, what do you transfer schools every two years?
joe rogan
Fucking vampire that doesn't bite you.
What are you talking about?
I want my cake and I want to eat it too.
ari shaffir
I want that kind of love.
joe rogan
I want to be a stay-at-home mom and have a career.
ari shaffir
This is why I respect you.
joe rogan
That sounds like a crazy person.
ari shaffir
This is why you're not equals.
joe rogan
I want to fly and be a person.
Well, you better get a plane, bitch, because you can't do that shit with your body.
You can't really fly.
That's crazy.
ari shaffir
How can you want that?
What do we want?
Blowjob.
joe rogan
Release.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
The release from the junkie of the penis that wants to explode squirty stuff out.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Those movies ruin it for all of us.
They ruin it for all of us.
joe rogan
What, porn movies?
ari shaffir
No, not porn.
The girl porn movies.
joe rogan
Yeah, the girl porn movies.
ari shaffir
When they don't know, but they're like, I sort of expect something better now.
joe rogan
Well, you know, they're just responding to a lack of romance.
You know, there's a lot of people that don't find anybody who's really into them.
You know, it's fucking hard to find someone who just, well, you're exactly what they're looking for and they're exactly what you're looking for.
Because a lot of times it's just one.
One of those is there.
Like the guy's into the girl or the girl's into the guy or, you know, someone's annoying.
Whatever the fuck it is.
ari shaffir
No one's exactly what anybody's looking for.
joe rogan
No, that's so not true, dude.
I know people, it's rare as fuck.
ari shaffir
And nothing.
Not even like, I wish they put their socks away more.
I wish they were a little more.
Nothing.
joe rogan
Okay, that's a crazy person worrying about socks.
What are you doing?
ari shaffir
I'm just saying.
It's a crazy example.
unidentified
We get to the bottom of Mr. Shafia's problem.
joe rogan
Here, he's trying already to sabotage with clothing.
Nothing has to do with behavior.
It's all clothing now.
He's trying for anything.
ari shaffir
That sounds like that guy, the Donald Duck.
Remember the old cartoon with the Donald Duck scientist?
When he was talking about the road rage that happens?
Remember that one?
Yes.
The driver gets in the car and he just turns into this thing.
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's like a scientist duck.
joe rogan
A scientist duck.
That's right.
ari shaffir
You sounded just like that.
I haven't thought about that guy in a long time.
joe rogan
Now I can never do that voice again.
It's lost.
Why?
ari shaffir
You won't be able to reproduce it?
joe rogan
I can only do like a couple of voices, like confidently.
And I have to be around them all the time.
Like Joey Diaz, I'm around Joey Diaz all the time.
So I can do Joey Diaz easy.
But other ones like that, I had them for a while and then they're gone.
You know?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Arnold's easy.
You can do Arnold's easy.
ari shaffir
Arnold.
joe rogan
Arnold's easy is the only guy you can do with just noises.
You can do just like...
It's so dumb.
That's the impression.
ari shaffir
I've never seen that not work on stage.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's so dumb.
It's so dumb.
It's a noise, but it's that guy.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whereas, I don't think that's the...
I can't think of any...
Maybe Stallone, I guess, is like...
There's like a little bit of a noise.
ari shaffir
Not as much.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's so many movies where he was yelling, where you're like, what the fuck is yelling like that for?
And a normal person would be like, ah!
And he's like...
The most bizarre...
ari shaffir
Did you see the remake of...
Conan?
No, not Conan.
joe rogan
Where's the sweet spot?
Dude, wherever your fucking beautiful face is.
ari shaffir
The remake of...
joe rogan
That's the sweet spot right there.
ari shaffir
Total Recall.
joe rogan
No.
Just out of respect.
I already got shit from Joey Diaz for seeing the new version of The Mechanic.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Joey Dears almost stabbed me.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was like, I don't have respect for Charles Bronson, dog.
You go to that fucking piece of shit.
That fucking Jason Statham, that little pansy.
unidentified
He's gonna play Charles Bronson's character, cocksucker.
joe rogan
He went crazy.
unidentified
Was it good?
joe rogan
No, I didn't see that fucking movie.
It was very good.
ari shaffir
I bet.
unidentified
It was very good.
ari shaffir
Statham is one of the coolest guys.
joe rogan
I love Statham, and I love that dude who I don't remember his name, but he was in that movie...
The vampire movie about Alaska.
ari shaffir
Vampire movie?
Oh, it's all night long?
Yeah, what the fuck is it?
joe rogan
30 days of night or something like that?
ari shaffir
60 days of night?
90 days of night?
joe rogan
120 days?
I don't know what the fuck it was.
The vampire...
Whatever the fucking...
Somebody on Twitter was screaming at me, I'm sure, right now.
unidentified
You idiot!
joe rogan
You fucking moron!
How are you, the one who gets to talk?
unidentified
Charles and Mac has produced it for over six months!
joe rogan
But he was a badass in that fucking movie, that vampire, 30 Days of Night.
ari shaffir
30 Days of Night.
You got him the first guest.
joe rogan
Yeah, that movie, I gotta find out this dude's name now because he was so fucking good in that movie.
It was like chilling because it's such a stupid premise.
ari shaffir
That you're in a vampire.
It's sort of cool.
Vampires would go with this more night.
joe rogan
But these were legit.
I'm sorry.
Hold on a second.
ari shaffir
These were legit what?
Vampires?
joe rogan
These were legit vampires.
This is one of the last movies.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, where they're badass.
joe rogan
30 Days of Night where they were fucking terrifying legit vampires.
They were awesome.
ari shaffir
Why couldn't they find those people?
Why couldn't they go door to door?
joe rogan
They didn't want to.
They weren't really into looking that hard.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah.
They had to hide away and go from place to place.
joe rogan
His name is Danny Houston?
Is that the homeboy's name?
That's one of them.
This guy played the vampire.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, this guy was one of the guys in that movie that was awesome, but he wasn't the guy that I was thinking about.
There's a guy who played the vampire familiar.
He played the person that was hoping they were going to turn him into a vampire.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That guy never works out for him, right?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, it never works out.
That guy always gets jacked.
ari shaffir
Double-crossed?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, he's always kind of a piece of shit, you know?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's always something wrong with him.
ari shaffir
The familiar.
joe rogan
But he's such a good weasel, you know?
And in this movie, he had, like, rotten teeth, and he was all fucked up looking.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was awesome.
He was great.
ari shaffir
They didn't allow him to have a...
They always kill those guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
They did it in the Hunger Games, too.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, you gotta kill those guys.
ari shaffir
Gotta kill them eventually.
joe rogan
You can't let those guys fucking go on.
Ben Foster, that's his name.
ari shaffir
Ben Foster?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's from Boston.
Holla at your boy.
He's a bad motherfucker.
That dude is a bad motherfucker.
Keep an eye on that dude as far as, like...
Like watching a guy who can really pull off someone fucked up in a movie.
Holy shit is he good.
ari shaffir
He was the familiar?
joe rogan
He was the familiar.
He was so good in it.
It was like, this is a silly role.
unidentified
I mean, you got to pretend they're going to turn me into a vampire.
joe rogan
It seems so stupid.
But he did it so creepy and so fucked up that he looked like a guy who had been so shell-shocked.
Before they put him in this prison, he was so shell-shocked.
Because he had seen like just vampires just gutting people everywhere he went.
And they were going to turn him into a vampire and eventually they just, spoiler alert, eventually they fucking eat his face.
And it's pretty intense.
But you buy it.
His acting, the rawness of it all.
ari shaffir
Do they get him fast or do they like slow?
joe rogan
Oh, they fuck you up, man.
These are scary vampires.
unidentified
They don't wait.
They don't wait.
They do that fucking shit with their blood spraying.
joe rogan
Like a wolf would eat your face.
You know, a wolf wouldn't eat your face like a panther would eat your face.
ari shaffir
If you're turning someone into another vampire, can you just drink a little of their blood and stop?
joe rogan
Yeah, so you have to drink a little.
Supposedly.
They all make their own rules now.
Vampires can go outside in the day.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Blade started with that shit.
Remember that they put sunscreen on that dude?
ari shaffir
On Black Blade?
joe rogan
Black Blade.
They put sunscreen on the other dude.
ari shaffir
Oh, so he could walk with him.
joe rogan
What is the handsome fella?
It doesn't work that much anymore.
He was in that movie.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He was in Two Girls, a Pizza Place, and Two Girls, a Guy, and a Pizza Place.
joe rogan
Was he in that one, too?
Yeah.
Devastatingly.
Steven Dorff?
Is that him?
Yeah.
That guy.
ari shaffir
Oh, that guy.
joe rogan
That guy was out.
Handsome fellow, Steven Dorff.
And he was...
He's got a beautiful face.
But anyway, all he had to do was put this sunscreen on, and he was okay.
He was protected from the fucking sun.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
That's nonsense!
ari shaffir
And the vampires couldn't figure that out?
joe rogan
Yeah, come on, man.
Vampires would go outside and...
unidentified
Ah!
joe rogan
Fucking burst into flame.
ari shaffir
Also, sunscreen lasts like 45 minutes.
joe rogan
Yeah, come on, man.
You're going to put some fucking sunscreen on and you're not going to burst into flames.
You're treating me like I'm an asshole.
ari shaffir
Do you know the sunscreen companies just revolted against, like, America had to make them put legit stuff on their bottles?
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
What were they doing?
ari shaffir
Just lying about the SPF? Saying waterproof.
SPFs were ranges.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If it's waterproof, it's paint.
ari shaffir
It's paint?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's paint.
You're going to paint your fucking head.
ari shaffir
But it's like, no, no, it's not waterproof.
It'll come off in the water.
Putting words like sport on there to make you think, oh, I can just have this on for hours.
You're making people get skin cancer.
joe rogan
I developed some real problems with sensitive eyes because of sunscreens.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Because I had to use sunscreen so much on Fear Factor.
When I did Fear Factor...
ari shaffir
Because you're outside all the time.
joe rogan
When I first started doing it, I was like a retard.
I didn't wear sunscreen.
The first couple of days that I ever worked it, I was just outside just getting cooked.
And I got really fucking burnt.
So I was like, alright, I gotta wear sunscreen.
So I was wearing sunscreen like three and four days a week standing outside while this shit drips in your eyes whenever you get any kind of sweat.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and it stinks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And a lot of times it's a sweaty day.
It's really possible for a little bit of the chemical to get moisture and it just drips into the corners of your eyes.
Then it would sting like a motherfucker.
Sometimes I would go on stage at the store and I forgot that I had sunscreen on my forehead so it would sweat.
And then while I was on stage sweating it would drip into my eyes and it would be horrific, man.
It would be like my eyes are getting burned.
Like I was getting chemical burns in my eyes.
And because of that I've had problems like swimming doesn't feel the same way in the ocean anymore.
It's much more painful than it used to be.
Swimming in the ocean is like, wow, this fucking stings.
Where swimming in fresh water is like no problem at all.
And that to me, the fact that the salt stings, it's like, man, it feels like there might have been some damage there or something.
ari shaffir
Also, when you're swimming in and it comes up, then it runs into your face a lot more too, into your eyes.
joe rogan
Well, it's just the fact that it gets in your eyes.
ari shaffir
So what does it do to you now?
What are your eyes like?
joe rogan
They sting.
They sting if I get in the salt water.
ari shaffir
More so?
joe rogan
Yeah, more so than when I was younger.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it has something to do with being burned a few times.
At least three times it was really painful where I got really burned.
ari shaffir
Like legitimately it hurt?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, like on stage, it's crying.
I'm crying.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you don't react to pain that well too.
joe rogan
My eyes sting.
Whoa, my pussy?
ari shaffir
No, no, the other way.
I mean, you don't ever react to me.
joe rogan
I was like, what's up, bro?
ari shaffir
I got so upset.
unidentified
Relax.
What's up, bro?
joe rogan
Am I a pussy?
ari shaffir
No.
I would expect if you were in high school with me, you would have been one of those kids that came in.
Just hand over a flame.
joe rogan
No, I never did.
I don't want pain.
But I've been pretty good at shutting it out.
Like getting tattooed, you have to shut it out.
ari shaffir
Yeah, a little bit.
joe rogan
But it's not that hard, man.
ari shaffir
I almost fainted.
joe rogan
Oh my god, really?
ari shaffir
It didn't even hurt.
It just pinchy.
I was with Bella.
Remember Bella?
Bella Julia.
joe rogan
Uh-huh, sure.
ari shaffir
Yeah, we went to get them.
And she got one, and I got one.
joe rogan
You got a way harder spot than I do.
ari shaffir
I guess.
No way.
joe rogan
The sleeve?
Yeah, I'm telling you.
That side area is brutal.
unidentified
It's just fat.
joe rogan
It's one of the most sensitive areas.
I don't know why.
It's supposed to be super sensitive.
Especially, like, the ribs.
Apparently, if you get tattooed on the ribs...
ari shaffir
Because that bone is right underneath.
joe rogan
Motherfucker!
You feel, like, rattling your rib cage with pain.
unidentified
Just...
joe rogan
Really?
It's like right over the bone.
You're like, oh Jesus!
That's how I've heard it described.
There's just a few spots when I was getting my left sleeve.
My right sleeve is only probably like 60% right now.
I've got to go to Aaron Della Vadova at Guru Tattoo in San Diego.
Holler at your boy.
I want to finish this Musashi one.
ari shaffir
What's it called?
What was it, Monkey?
I have a t-shirt from them.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
ari shaffir
Honky Kong.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
joe rogan
They have a lot of great artists.
San Diego is such a fucking cool town.
That's a good place to go and start a cult.
Maybe we should start our colony in San Diego.
It's not too far from LA. I think that was the first place I got laid on the road.
Whoa.
unidentified
Congratulations.
ari shaffir
I think that might have been that place.
joe rogan
Powerful Shafir.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a nice place to get laid.
La Jolla?
unidentified
Ooh.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
How beautiful is La Jolla?
ari shaffir
You had to coach me through it.
I didn't know how to read the signs.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It was me, you, and Ingram or something down there or something.
I think Ingram was on.
I don't know.
It was outside.
The show was still going on.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
Some girl said something to me like, oh, you're really funny and then went outside to smoke.
That's when I was still smoking.
And you're like, did you go get her number?
I was like, no, could I? And you're like, yes.
I was like, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, you were on the hunt and that girl came up and totally made the first move on you.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I couldn't read it.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you went on stage and you talked about not having a girlfriend.
You were like all green lights ahead.
You were dirty as fuck.
ari shaffir
Dirty as fuck.
Damn it.
joe rogan
But you killed.
And that's what's important.
You killed.
You were the fucking man for whatever it was, 20 minutes.
You were the man.
She's like, oh my god, I love him.
She's thinking about that.
ari shaffir
You were like, go use your smoking for good for once.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And go out there.
joe rogan
Yeah, go get some, son.
ari shaffir
I was so nervous, too.
I was like, okay.
And I went and talked.
I was like, you want to hang out?
And she was like, yeah, sure.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird how you get more comfortable meeting new people?
ari shaffir
It's any experience.
joe rogan
I used to get nervous when I would go to a bank teller.
This is, by the way...
ari shaffir
When you were what, like 17, 18?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, like I was 18, when I already fought in martial arts tournaments.
I mean, I got scared of that, too, but I would be tongue-tied and nervous when I was going to talk to the teller.
ari shaffir
Just a new person.
joe rogan
Maybe that.
Maybe a person of authority.
I just would get weird talking to people.
When I went for long periods of time, just training and not talking to people too much, I got real weird social anxiety shit for a while.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
I got real weird.
ari shaffir
I can't imagine that.
joe rogan
No, for sure.
ari shaffir
What if somebody introduced you to somebody?
joe rogan
Well, I was very...
I mean, I was still pretty confident in myself.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like, unreasonably confident in myself because of my martial arts stuff.
But I was still, like, really weird with people socially.
Like, I would get nervous talking to them, you know?
ari shaffir
Anybody.
Anybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, look, I didn't grow up feeling like the most appreciated person, so a lot of times when I was around someone new, I would think they were going to judge me, and oh, how long before this guy starts picking on me?
How long before this person starts picking on me?
ari shaffir
How long before he finds out that I'm supposed to be picked on?
joe rogan
That I'm a loser, yeah.
And when you feel like that, as a young person growing up, it's super easy to have yourself fall into those situations.
So I would get like super...
I could imagine it now.
Like now when I go to the bank, I look forward to saying hi to the lady.
You know, I look forward to going, hello, how you doing?
Everything good?
What's up?
You know, I think that there's like...
ari shaffir
Did you hear that earthquake yesterday?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You get into a little discussion with people.
I learned that from Diaz.
joe rogan
It's nice if you can do that.
You know, if you find someone who really will have a nice little, quick little nice conversation with you.
And you both feel good.
Everybody feels good.
Or you can just be that selfish, senseless asshole.
Just, can I help you?
What do you need?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Write it down.
That's not it.
You're a robot.
Just interact with people all day.
Maybe it would be fun.
If Joey Diaz worked at a fucking post office box place, it would be a fun place to go.
ari shaffir
I'm friends with all the post office people.
They told me once how to do it, like separate stuff, and I do it every time.
They'll stop and come over like, oh, you got another shipment?
joe rogan
You know, Eddie Bravo used to work at UPS. He used to sort boxes.
He would stand next to these runways, and the boxes would come at him, and he would grab the boxes and have to chuck them into different places that correspond to different...
ari shaffir
Like LaVorne and Shirley?
joe rogan
Like different area codes, or zip codes, rather.
Is it zip codes?
No.
Yeah.
Zip codes is the end of a letter.
Yeah, so he had to put them into different places.
What did you say?
What show?
ari shaffir
Laverne and Shirley.
joe rogan
Did they do that?
ari shaffir
With the bottles where they had to...
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
They had to do that with the brewery.
What was it called?
ari shaffir
It wasn't past, was it?
joe rogan
No, no.
It was a fake one, right?
Schatz?
Schatz Brewery?
unidentified
Schlotzky's?
ari shaffir
No, that's a real one.
joe rogan
What the fuck is it, man?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't remember.
That was a great show, though, when we were kids.
Laverne and Shirley was decent.
It was really hard to watch now.
Answer me this.
ari shaffir
What show is good to watch now?
joe rogan
Why is it that there were so many good female comedians from that era?
Like Carol Burnett and Laverne Shirley.
They were like real legit shows that people wanted to watch.
Mary Tyler Moore.
ari shaffir
I think it was maybe because of this.
I'm going to offer something that will probably get me in trouble.
But I think it's because in those days, Hollywood, the people in charge of choosing, hadn't yet said we've got to find prettier people.
The management system hadn't come in and promoted people from within to get like, well, who do you have to choose from now?
A bunch of people they've told us these are who you have to choose from.
You don't get like the people who are just naturally talented to rise through the ranks anymore.
If you look at Saturday Night Live now, most of those people are better looking now than when it started.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
You know, like everything has sort of changed.
And you're going to get prettier people to look at, which is nice, but you're also not going to necessarily get the funniest or most talented, most creative person that way.
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
You know?
And also Carol Burnett allowed everybody else to shine.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yes, and they had a super talented crew.
Is that thing falling apart on you, man?
You keep fucking with it.
ari shaffir
I know.
I'm trying to get to the right spot.
Don't touch it.
joe rogan
Don't touch it.
Just leave it alone.
Yeah, Carol Burnett had a super talented crew.
It's just hard for us to recognize now, because if you tried to watch the Carol Burnett show right now, I don't know if you'd really, truly enjoy it.
ari shaffir
I think I should go watch some of those shows, because some of those, like In Living Color, you can't watch at all now.
Certain shows you cannot watch.
Lenny Bruce, if that's who you're looking at.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was going to point to that Lenny Bruce poster that I have on my wall.
Look, I give it up to Lenny Bruce.
I think we all have to.
That was the originator.
That was the first guy.
If it wasn't for that guy, it would have taken a lot longer to get to this.
For what you and I do, that guy is so super important.
But if you try to watch his stuff today, it's odd.
It's very strange.
There's one where he's on stage for over an hour reading legal documents.
ari shaffir
Just trying shit?
joe rogan
No, just talking about the points of his case.
He went crazy because he was getting charged with obscenity.
And so he would go on stage and read his fucking case.
ari shaffir
He was the first one to suffer from that, from thinking how famous he was, he should be talking about it.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, he fucking fell apart because of it.
ari shaffir
And his world was a whole world.
joe rogan
The court cases, and then on top of that, the heroin, he was severely depressed, I'm sure, because of a lot of it.
All those guys that got arrested for saying things, even the two live crew, we owe them.
We owe them.
Because if it wasn't for people who broke down the door with obscenity, even though I don't, I mean, put your dips on my dick and sick my asshole too.
I mean, look, love it or hate it, it's a form of art.
ari shaffir
It's a ridiculous form of art.
It's like, why should you tell them not to say that?
That's what we believe in, that they should be allowed to say that.
Who cares what it is?
joe rogan
If they like it, what's it to you?
As long as they're not playing it in your face, and I don't think you should be playing Beethoven in anybody's face either.
ari shaffir
At some point, we bat out on the Christians a little too much.
joe rogan
A little too much.
ari shaffir
We're like, hey, how about there's going to be some cursing on television, so just research what you're going to watch and police your kids on your own.
joe rogan
Florida's so gangster.
ari shaffir
We all want this.
joe rogan
Florida's got a lot of really strange laws.
Some people like them, but some people think that they're really nuts.
Florida has a really large community of conservative people.
So they have some pretty strict laws when it comes to pornography and things like that.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, so when they have someone, like, say this guy, remember that dude who went to jail for obscenity?
Max Hardcore?
He does, like, really intense shit.
Like, really intense, like, shameful, horrible things to people.
Just, like, pissing in her asshole, and then they drink it with a straw.
Oh, my.
Yeah, like, intense stuff.
ari shaffir
It's weekend stuff.
joe rogan
Intense, intense stuff.
Pissing in your mouth while he's got a hard-on somehow or another.
And then he forces her head down and he pisses in her mouth some more and she's gagging and throwing up piss.
Yeah, so what they did with this guy is they decided to make a case out of him.
So they sent his stuff to Florida.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then they sent it to some place that has very strict pornography laws.
And so that place is like, okay, well now we'll prosecute them based on our perception of what's upsetting.
ari shaffir
Yeah, different perceptions.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's where it gets crazy.
ari shaffir
And that's Florida.
Didn't they run the meth where people just go from spot to spot to spot in Florida?
joe rogan
It's not meth, but it's OxyContin's.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Still do.
ari shaffir
You can just get a certain amount out of every single city.
joe rogan
Yeah, and they're trying to stop or slow the tide on the amount of prescriptions that they give out, but the fact is there's so many people that already have them.
There's so many people that are addicted to that stuff, and if they all stop cold turkey, they're all going to die.
So you've got to figure out how to get these people off this zombie drug that you guys have been making billions off.
Good luck.
Good luck, you fucking assholes.
You crazy assholes that have made all your money.
Enjoy your yacht.
You've enslaved a population.
You've enslaved a population with vampire dust.
You've turned people into zombies.
ari shaffir
You know what they'll say?
joe rogan
What do they say?
ari shaffir
They'll say, well, I just don't think about it.
joe rogan
They're going to stand right beside Mitt Romney and say, we did build it.
We did build it.
Yeah.
Everybody got mad at me because I got mad at Obama for that expression that he used.
ari shaffir
What expression?
joe rogan
Where he said, you didn't build that.
You didn't build the infrastructure.
He was talking about the reason why we have...
Such a great society that people are able to create jobs and start their own businesses is because there's this infrastructure and you need to contribute to that.
You didn't build that.
You didn't build that infrastructure.
ari shaffir
Who didn't build it?
Mitt Romney.
joe rogan
The people that have the businesses.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He's saying that you didn't build it on your own.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
But, you know, what I got upset about, and me and Brian Callum were talking about it, and I should clarify because enough people tweeted me and commented on the message board.
What I don't like about that is because that is a defeatist attitude.
You're telling someone something they didn't do.
That's not how a leader should be communicating with people in my really unsubstantial and completely irrefutable position.
I mean, who am I to tell you?
ari shaffir
Here's what I think.
What do you mean how a leader should act?
Those are things and terms that we grew up on, but what do you mean?
Why shouldn't he hang out in his underwear and say whatever he wants?
joe rogan
I'm not saying that I don't, you know, I have any credibility on this subject, but I think that when you're talking to a group of people, this is just my opinion, can't say that any more times, and if you're the leader of 300 million people and you're talking in negatives, then you're putting out negative.
You're putting out negative energy.
You're scolding people.
You're, in a sense, you're saying that someone's wrong.
When you say you didn't build that...
ari shaffir
He said that about Mitt Romney?
joe rogan
No, he said that about people that don't think that they should pay more in taxes, people that don't think they should contribute more, which I, by the way, even though I'm...
I have a mixture of ideas that I have about a lot of things that I believe that are very liberal as far as social issues and a lot of things that I believe that are pretty conservative and people would be kind of surprised.
Because I just think there's a reality to human nature that a lot of liberal people I think don't want to accept.
They want to pretend that people are a little less predictable than they actually are.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Humans are humans.
We act like whatever type of species we are.
joe rogan
Until we accept that, all these conversations we have are just flavored by bullshit.
That's why political conversations never work.
That's why political speeches never work.
ari shaffir
Because they never see the other side.
They never realize that we want different things.
joe rogan
When you see a guy like Mitt Romney or a guy like Barack Obama, who's by the way a really good speaker.
He's way better than I would be if I had to do that thing.
I'd get crazy emotional.
I'd probably cry like a bitch.
I had the real responsibility of guiding 300 million people.
He handles it admirably.
I mean, it's amazing.
But they all do it in a fake way.
ari shaffir
They all do what?
unidentified
We are the type of country that prevails.
joe rogan
We are not the type of country It's like, come on, man.
You're not talking to me as a human being.
And these grandiose ways of using tone and separating speech is, to me, it's a lot like stand-up comedy.
ari shaffir
Pausing for applause.
Yeah, when I hear them get applause, it's like you hear them raise their voice at the end.
It's not because of the message, it's because of the way you delivered it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you use some theatrical type of voice.
ari shaffir
Bullshit, that's cheap.
You see a comic doing that, and you're like, come on.
You can't finish your set and go like this.
Give it up for me.
joe rogan
Some guys do, though.
You've seen it.
How gross is that?
Remember there was one guy that used to come around and would tell the audience that this always gets a standing ovation.
This is my last bit.
This always gets a standing ovation.
And he would go and do his last bit.
ari shaffir
Just letting him know you should be getting a standing ovation at the end of this.
joe rogan
And he would tell people to stand the fuck up.
Stand the fuck up.
Stand the fuck up.
unidentified
It's supposed to just happen.
joe rogan
People are so crazy.
They're so greedy.
They want it now!
It's mine!
unidentified
It's mine!
joe rogan
It's my precious!
That's why the Golem works so well.
ari shaffir
Because everyone's like, yeah, I see that.
unidentified
Oh, precious, precious, precious.
Mmm.
Me wants it.
ari shaffir
It's become almost a hacky reference in comedy because it works so well.
joe rogan
Oh, because it is...
ari shaffir
It's like, yeah, having that much desire for something, that's the extreme.
joe rogan
The creepiest possible aspect of people is when you're running into them in the midst of an addiction.
ari shaffir
Green monster.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you see someone who wants something so bad, something, something, give it to us!
unidentified
Give it to us!
joe rogan
You know, that thing where...
I've seen it with coke.
I've seen it with people that wanted coke.
ari shaffir
But they just want to get back to where they were in the first 20 minutes of their fucking coke trip.
joe rogan
Well, they're not thinking.
They just know they want it.
But it's weird to see that glassy-eyed lockdown on that chemical.
They want that chemical so bad.
ari shaffir
I was with Tebow yesterday, two days ago, yesterday.
joe rogan
I don't care when it happened, man.
ari shaffir
I saw some guy crossing the street, but he's walking with sweatpants, no t-shirt, and socks on, walking down La Brea, crossing Hollywood Boulevard.
On the other side of the street, I was like, Tebow, what drug is that?
He goes, I think meth.
Looks meth-y to me.
joe rogan
Kind of meth-y.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
A little on the meth-y side.
Jesus Christ.
ari shaffir
I was like, he seems calm.
He's like, oh no, he's just waiting for something to get in his way.
joe rogan
That's why I have no respect for cops that decide, by the way, not are forced to act, but decide it's time to raid medical marijuana dispensaries.
Go clean up the meth labs, you fuck.
You know where people are actually...
Going in and parking their car and paying for it with their credit card.
ari shaffir
You know what's happening.
You know what's worse.
joe rogan
You assholes.
Whoever it is at the top, I know you're trying to protect your cops, but really, come on, man.
You need to get drones.
And I usually don't say that, but that's what the cops need, to deal with the meth.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Just drones.
ari shaffir
What's going to happen with it?
Nothing's going to happen with this.
joe rogan
Leave the weed alone.
How about weed pays for drones to go after the meth?
ari shaffir
But the city council stuff for LA, that's not going to pass, right?
joe rogan
No, it's not going to pass.
ari shaffir
The mayor's never going to sign off on it.
joe rogan
No, they can go fuck themselves.
The idea is ridiculous.
You know how much money they would lose?
They would lose billions of dollars in revenue and taxes.
It's ridiculous.
Those companies are just as much of a legitimate business as someone selling cucumbers.
ari shaffir
But here's the problem, though.
Yeah, but I agree with you.
But six out of seven city councilmen or whatever said, yeah, let's get rid of it.
joe rogan
Yeah, those guys are bitches.
ari shaffir
Are they in the pocket of people?
Is that what it is?
joe rogan
Of course they are!
Of course!
This is a big issue, man.
If this could make...
Look, imagine you could wipe out, just for a goof, say that you could wipe out all of the medical marijuana dispensers in this state.
So the only way a patient could get pot was to illegally grow it.
If that was the case...
People like grandmas and shit.
ari shaffir
They would illegally grow it.
joe rogan
Or they would just go to the pills.
It's very possible you get a lot of people to the pills.
Yeah, a lot of people take it for pain relief, man.
A lot of people that have had back injuries and some really crazy shit.
ari shaffir
I will tell you the only story I heard where it's like story evidence, whatever that word is.
We were on that Monsters of Comedy tour.
That shit he won with Tripoli and all those guys.
And this guy, we'll see.
He's like an army guy.
He's like, I'm not touching that stuff.
He got a little annoyed that he smoked around him.
Within two weeks, he was like, all right, let me have some.
But we always shoved him in the back with a luggage and stuff.
And his back was like, fuck, I'm hurt.
It hurt, whatever.
He said, dude, my back feels good.
When he finally started smoking, he was like, I feel better.
joe rogan
Well, part of the problem with back pain, and this has been proven, is it's stress-related.
That a lot of times when people have, like, really stressful lives...
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there's a guy, I think his name is John Sarno.
I think that's his name.
He's a doctor from New York, and he's, like, got this idea that...
I think his name is Sarno.
I should look this up.
But that it's psychosomatic.
And Eddie Bravo actually found that his back problems are psychosomatic.
ari shaffir
He could, like, see if he was stressed?
joe rogan
Well, he said that he was just so tense in the way he was thinking, and he changed the way he was thinking.
And when he changed the way he was thinking, literally his back problems went away.
ari shaffir
There's an old fable in the Old Testament that somebody, some guy was trying to help a king, he couldn't get his shoe off or something.
He had, like, armor on with a shoe, and he couldn't get it off, and the king had to, like, calm him down.
Or the Jew had to calm this king down.
unidentified
Hmm.
ari shaffir
And then once that happened, then his swelling went down on his foot, and he was able to get the shoe off.
joe rogan
Huh.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You fucked that front thing up again, man.
ari shaffir
Fucked it up good, man.
Fucked it up good.
joe rogan
It's not your fault.
These arms suck.
ari shaffir
I can't face you and turn...
Oh, that's clearly the way to do it.
unidentified
Hmm.
ari shaffir
But now...
So how do I... I'm just missing an angle.
joe rogan
Just right there's good.
good right there's good can you tighten it up right there so uh that jewish uh horror movie oh yeah the dybbuk box yeah well it's i think it's called the possession oh yeah yeah i said it just came out yeah it was wicked stupid yeah totally unbelievable yeah completely retarded you like dragged me to hell i was like this love dude this love i remember that child in a lot of ways I don't know if you've recognized that.
ari shaffir
That time we were in San Jose and we were all going to go see a movie because it's so boring there.
It's like two blocks, it's okay.
joe rogan
Yep, yep.
ari shaffir
And so we're all going to see a movie and you and Tom was like, let's go see Drag Me to Hell.
I was like, barf!
Let's go see Up!
And you guys were like, barf!
joe rogan
Wow, Up!
Oh my god, Drag Me to Hell was so much better than Up!
ari shaffir
Me and Brian cried.
joe rogan
I sounded like a 14-year-old right here.
ari shaffir
Me and Brian cried it up.
joe rogan
Did you really?
ari shaffir
We were bawling.
joe rogan
Aww.
That's so sweet.
Yeah, I don't like getting depressed at the movies.
And Up did depress me.
When the old guy was in the house by himself, I'm like, I do not want to watch this.
That's gross.
You're watching someone rot away.
ari shaffir
The first 15 minutes into that, you're like, that's just a beautiful short.
Him with the wife coming up.
joe rogan
Depressing as fuck.
ari shaffir
I like when stuff touches me like that.
You don't like it?
joe rogan
I used to, and I gave up.
I gave up on that feeling.
Like, I don't need that.
I'm trying to manage as much positive thinking in my life as possible.
The last thing I want to do is watch a movie about some guy who's fucking shooting heroin and falling apart, and someone accidentally hits someone with a car because they're driving.
I don't want to see that.
I don't want to see it.
I don't care.
I don't need to see reality when I go to the fucking movies.
I want the Hulk.
ari shaffir
Really?
Every time?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I would see...
Not even a back and forth?
What's that?
ari shaffir
Not even a back and forth?
joe rogan
Fuck about some depressing movie.
I'm not going to the movies to get depressed.
I don't have time, man.
I've got a lot of different interests.
I'm really into a lot of different things that I don't get to do a lot, like play pool.
The last thing I want to do is take some time away from playing pool...
To watch some movie that wants to make me cry like a bitch about some shit that didn't even really happen.
I'm crying about some fake shit.
And you go to comedy too.
ari shaffir
You go to Ali G movies and stuff like that.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
Yeah.
No, no, I love comedies.
Don't get me wrong.
Yeah, I wanted to go see the new Will Ferrell, Zach Galifianakis movie, but it was sold out like a motherfucker.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, we were 20 minutes before it, too.
I was like, oh shit, I got crazy.
I thought I could go see that movie.
That movie was going to be like number one.
Apparently, it's fucking...
ari shaffir
When did it come out?
joe rogan
It just came out.
But I had a bunch of people say that when it went and saw it, it's just so ridiculous.
It's like from the moment it starts, it's a fucking crazy giggle fest because they're both so stupid funny.
Like Will Ferrell, I've seen him in movies.
He's got scenes in Anchorman that are so preposterous.
When the girl was starting to become famous and he was upset.
Yeah, you remember?
I mean, it's like, he's so funny.
ari shaffir
It's so ridiculous that it's like, alright, it's funny.
joe rogan
Every movie that he's in, I've never seen a bad Will Ferrell movie.
I've never seen a Will Ferrell movie that didn't make me laugh.
Talladega Nights is one of my all-time favorite comedies.
ari shaffir
I like Talladega Nights.
joe rogan
That's a fucking great movie.
ari shaffir
When that girl stops fucking Will Ferrell because he loses and then starts fucking Philip Seymour Hoffman or whatever the guy's name is.
joe rogan
Yeah, Leslie Bibb.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and everyone's like, wait, you're fucking the other guys.
Like, those are my kids now.
joe rogan
I appreciate you.
ari shaffir
She was my...
joe rogan
Ex-girlfriend in Zookeeper.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, she was the girl that I was trying to get from Kevin James.
ari shaffir
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's really nice.
She's super cool.
You know, you think about hanging with actors, that actors would be real actor-ish.
Leslie Bibb is cool as fuck, and she's totally like a guy.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Dude, we were on the way to...
She's really funny.
And she's nice.
She's nice to everybody.
She's nice to the PAs.
She's nice to the makeup ladies.
She's just nice.
She's just nice.
But she's fucking really hilarious.
I don't know how much she would ever want anybody to know of this conversation, so I won't tell you anymore.
But she was cracking jokes about something, and I was like, I can't believe this is the chick from Talladega Nights.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was really funny.
She's really funny.
ari shaffir
Steve Byrne, I've been getting called into audition for that Sullivan& Son a few times.
joe rogan
Sullivan and Son?
What is that?
ari shaffir
Steve Byrne's show.
It's on TBS. Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
TBS has a lot of comedies now, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're really trying to go hard.
joe rogan
That's a recent thing, right?
ari shaffir
Is that where Louie is?
joe rogan
No, he's at FX. FX, yeah, okay.
ari shaffir
But his is on TBS. But anyway, at some point, I got called on three times for one same show.
It's like, Steve, thank you.
You clearly said something about me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And he's like, I'd so much rather hang out with a comic than an actor.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ari shaffir
Even if it's just one line.
I'd rather be around one.
joe rogan
Normally I say that, but then I'm saying this Leslie Bibb chick.
unidentified
She's cool.
joe rogan
Even though she's not a comic, she is a comic.
She might as well be a comic.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and there's some annoying comics, too, that I wouldn't want to hang out with.
Of course!
joe rogan
I'm telling you, look, a lot of people that are actors in comedy, like Leslie Bibb, could easily have been a stand-up.
Yeah, they're cool enough.
Yeah, the same thing that Chelsea Handler can pull off.
Leslie Bibb can pull that off, too.
ari shaffir
Chelsea Handler takes some shit, but I've always thought she was hardcore.
joe rogan
She's funny!
ari shaffir
I thought she was the only girl that was talking about being a whore that was really a whore.
She's like, she ain't faking it.
joe rogan
She's always been nice to me.
Every time I've always seen her, she's always been nice to me.
I've never heard anybody say she's an asshole.
I don't know what it's like on her set or anything like that, but she's always nice.
ari shaffir
She used to come into the store, like Jeff Scott used to get mad about it sometimes.
joe rogan
I think I wrote a review for her book.
I wrote a blur.
unidentified
I remember that.
ari shaffir
But she would come in, sit in her car, drink from a flask.
That go in and open the show and then take off for the night.
joe rogan
She was good.
I remember watching her in the back of the room going, wow, this chick is fucking...
She's hardcore.
She's legit hardcore.
She was really living it.
ari shaffir
She was really getting drunk.
I'm not pretending I'm a whore for the sake of a joke.
joe rogan
She's funny.
She's cool.
Yeah, I think, you know, it's a way harder road for a chick to make it as a comedian, and even talk about anything, than it is for a dude.
Because a dude can get away with having an opinion about things.
ari shaffir
You know, chicks it's harder to, or they just don't try.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's also like you'll listen to a guy on stage with a conservative point of view for a little bit.
You know what I mean?
You'll listen for a little bit if the guy is a respectable person.
Even Christopher Hitchens was pretty conservative when it came to a lot of military issues.
Oh yeah.
And these are obviously very respected guys.
ari shaffir
Super liberal atheists at the same time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But if you had a woman that was on stage that was trying to get you to laugh and had opinions so completely polar opposite of your opinions as well.
You wouldn't be wanting to hear it.
You couldn't be talking about sucking dicks.
It's hard.
It's hard to do for them.
ari shaffir
No, but like political opinions or fucking social opinions.
joe rogan
Shut your mouth, woman.
ari shaffir
I think none of them just do it right.
joe rogan
You don't get to choose.
That's how guys think.
And I think it's way harder for a chick to have a political point of view.
That's why a lot of them become really snappy.
Like a dog that's going to yell that too much.
ari shaffir
In their act.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
They definitely get pushed into being characters more.
unidentified
Yes.
ari shaffir
Into being character acts.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
I agree with that.
Just like Roseanne did.
Just like Phyllis Diller did.
Just like all these people did.
It really hasn't stopped.
joe rogan
Roseanne was a monster.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You remember when Roseanne first came out, man?
I remember.
She was the first chick.
ari shaffir
Her voice was too annoying for me at first.
joe rogan
Took me a couple years.
That I ever saw really kill.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
She was the first chick I ever saw really kill.
ari shaffir
You saw her work out?
joe rogan
You saw her deuce box?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, I don't think I ever saw her live.
I might have saw her once at the store live, and I can't remember.
But I've seen her specials.
I've seen her specials a bunch of times.
And I've tweeted back at her.
I think she admonished me for making a potty joke.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Like a mommy.
ari shaffir
As a joke?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think she was telling me to concentrate more on important issues.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
She was one of the first women to get her say.
She goes, we'll do it my way.
joe rogan
That's Roseanne Barr, bitch.
Better recognize.
ari shaffir
She fired every showrunner she had.
You're all fired, one at a time.
joe rogan
Well, that's a weird thing that happens to people when they become the star of a show.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's my show.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't tell Roseanne what to do.
ari shaffir
And after that second year, it was like she was one of the biggest people in America.
joe rogan
She was huge.
ari shaffir
Remember when she had a three-way marriage?
Her and Tom Arnold married Sandra Bernhardt or that other person.
joe rogan
Is that true?
ari shaffir
Something like that.
It was like a three-way marriage.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
They're like, we're marrying her.
joe rogan
Can you imagine being married to another person?
Ugh.
ari shaffir
What a drag.
joe rogan
What a crazy drag.
How about we all get divorced and just live together?
unidentified
More responsibility.
joe rogan
Let's just make up our mind, honey, this marriage is a sham.
We're bringing another person in here.
Let's just get divorced and hang out together.
Can we do that?
You can't have a three-way marriage.
Why don't I have a ten-way marriage, you dumb fuck?
That way when you break up, you can't have any money.
How about that?
You don't get any of it.
unidentified
All of it goes to other people.
joe rogan
They can't live off what you make.
ari shaffir
You get nothing.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't...
Could you imagine if you got divorced from nine people and you had to pay them all?
ari shaffir
Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.
Maybe like when you go to Tijuana and those little chick-a-kids come up to you.
It'll be like that.
With alimony all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, you've got to think of how stupid it is.
Like, I was having a conversation with somebody about the O.J. Simpson case the other day.
It came up.
They were talking about people getting super crazy because they have to pay so much in divorce.
Yeah.
And we broke it down.
I go, could you imagine if you had explained that to somebody?
That if they didn't understand the system.
It's like, yeah, well what happens is you sign this paper and then when you're not together anymore, even if they're fucking other people, you have to keep sending them money.
For like a long time.
For years and years and years.
And they, for whatever reason, never have to get their shit together.
ari shaffir
You never have to.
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
And everyone's like, you've got to do what you have to do.
You have to support them.
Why?
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
You know, I have a friend whose wife, if she got married to the man that she loves, she would lose all of her money.
unidentified
All of her alimony.
joe rogan
So she won't marry him.
So this guy's like a bum, and they live together, and this guy has to pay them astronomical sums every month.
And he'll get a credit order or a court order to prove that she's living with a man.
And the guy would just move out for two weeks.
The inspector comes, and then he moves back in.
ari shaffir
Here's the thing.
I understand that if you gave up your life and your career to raise a child for someone else, then you're in a worse place.
joe rogan
He has no kids.
ari shaffir
But if you just marry someone, in what world of equality do you think, because you guys decided to break up, that one person should pay the other person?
In what equality world?
joe rogan
It's if you get married for more than 12 years.
ari shaffir
Then you're under...
No, if you live together with five years in California...
unidentified
No, no, no.
joe rogan
That's not what I'm saying.
If you're married for more than 12 years and you get divorced...
And you grow apart?
You have to pay them forever.
ari shaffir
Because you grew in separate ways.
joe rogan
I mean, that is one of the nittiest things.
ari shaffir
Every girl is not outraged by that.
It's a fucking cunt.
Every one of you.
Whenever you want equality, just know that that's a rule still and go fuck yourself.
There's no way that should still be around.
Stop and think about it for a second.
joe rogan
I got two words for you right now.
Tom Arnold.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's our payback.
joe rogan
It's not just girls.
It's not just girls.
ari shaffir
That's right.
joe rogan
Guys have run that hustle, too.
ari shaffir
And Britney Spears, dude.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
Kevin Federer in the house.
He's fat and he drives a Ferrari now.
ari shaffir
But every guy was excited about that.
Black people were excited about OJ getting off.
Where we knew this was ridiculous, but finally won for us.
joe rogan
You just went deep with that, son.
ari shaffir
It's a ridiculous law!
It's ridiculous!
joe rogan
Yeah, it's craziness.
It's crazy that you could be separated by years and years and years.
And even the same amount of time that you were actually together.
Like if you were together for 12 years and separated for 12 years.
No, no.
In perpetuity.
You've got to keep paying.
ari shaffir
We got married, we're 18, now I'm 30?
joe rogan
And I have to pay forever?
She can't even find a man.
She can't find a man who loves her enough to take her away from the contract.
ari shaffir
It comes from a time where they're tarnished goods, because they've already been married for so long.
Who would want them?
joe rogan
Well, it's not even that.
ari shaffir
What the fuck is that?
joe rogan
It's not even that.
It's that she can't trust him.
What, I'm going to just trust you, I'm going to marry you, and you're going to stick around?
If I lose you, I lose all this money.
I mean, she gets a substantial...
unidentified
It's so ridiculous!
joe rogan
Substantial amount of money every year.
unidentified
It's a payday!
ari shaffir
What the fuck are you talking about?
joe rogan
How much?
ari shaffir
That comes from a crazy time!
joe rogan
How much does she get?
Oh, nothing.
Just about a million dollars.
A year.
ari shaffir
Remember that Chris Rock bit.
It's okay to give him half of your money when you have two million dollars.
Try when you have 30,000.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Try giving up 15,000.
joe rogan
Even when you have two million dollars, it's like, it hurts your soul.
ari shaffir
She didn't earn this.
joe rogan
It's so crazy that if you write something down on paper, another person...
unidentified
And you have to keep paying them?
joe rogan
You have to keep paying them.
Like, why can't you live your life?
Like, that seems to be kind of strange.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That you're requiring me to live your life.
Yeah, what kind of fucking weird enabling system do we have here?
We're not responsible for yourself.
ari shaffir
I'm not going to say it.
We're training them to be adults.
That's what we're training them to be.
joe rogan
I can't believe you said that.
ari shaffir
I stopped myself.
I try to grow as a human.
I try to grow as a human.
But that's what you're training to be.
Fucking people unable to take care of themselves in any way.
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
Well, the whole idea is ridiculous.
ari shaffir
You can get injured in an accident.
joe rogan
Women want to be protected when they're raising children and to be legal.
Like some guys are douchebags and they don't want to pay for their kids and they wouldn't want to pay alimony or child support.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying in cases, especially where there's no children, it seems a little weird that you could be separated from someone for, in my friend's case, 10 fucking years!
He's paying a substantial amount of money.
My friend is a real worker.
He works.
He's got his own business.
He's like, I mean, this motherfucker puts in some hours.
I'm telling too much.
He's also a wizard.
He lives in a cave.
And he drives a spaceship.
ari shaffir
And he's Asian.
joe rogan
It's just a sad world when you see people destroyed by a weird, unequal legal system.
ari shaffir
It's antiquated.
What the fuck is that?
joe rogan
It doesn't make any sense.
unidentified
How can any?
ari shaffir
How can anyone defend that kind of behavior?
joe rogan
It's just so crazy to think that someone who you don't want in your life anymore is still your financial responsibility.
ari shaffir
How about the last two years was a living hell?
That doesn't buy you anything?
Any discounts?
joe rogan
We're talking about grown adults, man.
You would assume that you've done something with your life that's trade-worthy.
ari shaffir
We hated each other.
We had to sleep next to each other for the last two years.
joe rogan
And it doesn't matter.
Yeah, no bed together.
She might insult you when you're at dinner.
I mean, make up your own horrifying scenario that it could have been.
And imagine you have to pay that person a million a year.
unidentified
Ha ha!
joe rogan
It's craziness.
ari shaffir
20 bucks.
That's what you get.
What you get when you get out of prison.
joe rogan
The whole idea behind paying people money is fucking crazy.
But the whole idea behind charity is beautiful.
And when people don't get charity from people, they want to get it from them.
You give it to me.
And it's a fucking horrible aspect of human nature that people want something that they don't deserve.
ari shaffir
But we all want it.
After we get it for a while, we all want it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you all want to slip and fall and sue.
ari shaffir
But in anything, even when you start getting spots at the comedy store, you start thinking, well, now I get them, I deserve them.
Everyone gets like this.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard to maintain humility and appreciation.
Those are two very hard aspects of the human experience to really maintain and hang on to.
It's hard to be a nice person.
ari shaffir
I was talking to this guy in Toronto, this new comic, he was interviewing me for something, some web thing.
joe rogan
Powerful Toronto, coming soon, Massey Hall.
Are you going to be able to...
ari shaffir
I'm also doing shows in Toronto, just for laughter.
I will probably be by there to hang out, at the very least.
joe rogan
At the very least.
So, legally, we can't say that R.S.F.E.A. will be performing.
But you know it's...
ari shaffir
How are the sales of that show?
joe rogan
Oh, stellar.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you're going to kill them.
joe rogan
It's almost sold out.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's almost sold out.
Look, Massey Hall is one of the fucking coolest places on earth.
Have you ever done it?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
Dude, the fucking Beatles did it and shit.
It's one of those places.
Oh, it's insanity.
I'm scared.
I'm scared just thinking about it now.
I'm getting tuned up.
Yeah, I'm so fired up for that show.
I'm fired up for this weekend, too.
I'm doing the Lobero Theater in Santa Barbara.
Santa Barbara is pretty fucking dope, dude.
ari shaffir
Santa Barbara.
joe rogan
You ever go there?
ari shaffir
I just went camping halfway there.
Dude, I'm telling you, it's so nice to go camping.
You gotta do it.
joe rogan
You're such a silly bitch.
ari shaffir
It's so much fun.
You see fucking animals.
We got attacked by a skunk.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not good.
ari shaffir
It was so fun.
joe rogan
You say it like it's good.
ari shaffir
It was so fun.
joe rogan
Skunks are not good, dude.
ari shaffir
Only one guy had to walk through it.
It was so fun.
joe rogan
That's not real camping.
That's serial killer bait.
ari shaffir
And then we went out into the wild.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's no wild.
The wild that you can get to your car in LA is not real wild.
It's serial killer bait.
ari shaffir
Where do you want to go?
joe rogan
You've got to go to Montana, son.
You've got to go somewhere legit.
ari shaffir
Oh, we can't go there.
That's too involved.
We want to take mushrooms and drive somewhere.
joe rogan
Okay, but I'm telling you that you're just asking to get eaten.
That's what you're doing.
If you go to one of those creepy semi-wooded areas near cities.
ari shaffir
There's families there.
joe rogan
Like Griffith Park.
Griffith Park is a good place to find a half-eaten body.
ari shaffir
Griffith Park is different.
joe rogan
It's a good place to find a pit that people made when they cooked a homeless guy.
That's the kind of place where you find some shit like that.
It's not like the real woods.
It's not like Colorado.
It's not like walking through the trails in the Rockies.
ari shaffir
It's the closest place where I can get away from everyone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And that's so much fun sometimes.
To get away from everybody.
If I had a houseboat, I'd take it out sometimes.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah it is, but the problem is the places you're going, anybody you run into you're going to have to kill.
You're going to have to kill in a hand-to-hand fight because they're going to be trying to take your life.
You're going to have to Call back on those old school 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu skills.
ari shaffir
Try to remember when my dad taught me about the Israeli army.
unidentified
Yes.
ari shaffir
What do I remember?
Kicking the balls for two people.
joe rogan
Dude, I'm so bummed out that you hurt your knees.
I really love the fact that you got into Jiu Jitsu.
Yeah, it was great.
You got proficient in it for a while.
I remember seeing you get a few taps.
And I was like, holy shit, Ari, what's happening, people?
ari shaffir
I would tell anyone who's thinking of doing it, it's so invigorating when you get that.
It's sort of the same, but way better than it is.
unidentified
Come back, man.
joe rogan
Why don't you come back again?
Why don't you just lift a little weight for a couple months, build your body up a little bit?
I'm about to go back now.
I had a pretty significant back injury where I popped it.
ari shaffir
I miss it sometimes.
joe rogan
And then I tried to keep rolling.
I tried to just roll light and just use technique and I hurt it really bad.
I hurt it bad to the point where I was getting numbness in my hands.
ari shaffir
Oh really?
joe rogan
I've had that.
It was intense.
ari shaffir
Singling?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was intense.
And then I came back for a little and I got my black belt and then I heard it again.
And I was like, motherfucker.
I said, alright, I can't just rest this.
I gotta make this thing stronger.
ari shaffir
I should say this because I don't think I got injured in jiu-jitsu.
I think I got injured from kettlebells.
So I will say to anyone who doesn't, be careful and don't bend past a certain level.
joe rogan
Well, honestly, I think before you even do kettlebells, For you, because you had been kind of sedentary, I think it would have been nice.
A little bit.
Trying to be your friend, brother.
You know, I love you.
ari shaffir
That was growing on me.
joe rogan
You could have started off with perhaps like some bodyweight squats and some push-ups and like a real conservative sort of a build-up phase.
Because what happened to you has happened to people before.
ari shaffir
You go too hard and you break.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
You can fuck yourself up.
Kevin Pereira had the exact same problem.
ari shaffir
Callan told me at some point, he's like, but honestly, dude, you're 36, you're 37. You can't, you can't.
That's what's going to happen.
joe rogan
That's Callan.
ari shaffir
That's right before he lifted his shirt and said something about 40-something and then pounded himself.
joe rogan
Fox News, messenger of doom.
If you were talking about how great your body was, he would have went that way with you.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
He just loves being a talent.
But no, he is right in a lot of ways.
I mean, when you're older, for sure, the shit breaks more.
Especially if you're thinking the fact that you're 36. And on top of being 36, you're also like...
I'm 38 now.
You haven't been in the best of shape.
Right, right, right.
You got to that age, and on top of it, you were not eating well.
ari shaffir
I just started eating healthy.
I'm going to Whole Foods.
I went in there once high.
Stoned.
Drove in there.
I was like, let me see.
And their salad bar was so fucking good and full of different flavors that I'm like, I can do this.
joe rogan
It truly makes a difference to eat healthy.
And people don't understand...
You don't know what you're depriving yourself out of.
It doesn't mean to be a vegetarian either.
It means getting a lot of nutrition.
ari shaffir
It's weird though.
I just did it because it tasted okay.
But after like a month, like a solid month of doing it all the time, like eight, nine of those a day.
Not a day, a week.
After that, I could feel better.
I would feel more energy and better.
joe rogan
Yeah, of course.
It's like when you quit smoking, too.
I'm sure it must have been the same sort of a thing.
ari shaffir
Man, I would like to say that.
I would like to say that, but it just hasn't.
joe rogan
You had a real pullback, huh?
It's always pulled you a little bit back.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I'm better off at now.
The pot helps, because I get that feeling of smoking something, which would relieve that little feeling.
joe rogan
But for the longest time after that, it always pulled you, right?
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You just always wanted to get one.
ari shaffir
And then when you see people smoking, you're like, I want to be part of this.
I want to be with you guys smoking right now.
joe rogan
It's so weird how it's so different for different people.
Some people quit smoking, and then they feel like they have so much energy, and they feel so much better, and they feel like they got out from under a rock, like something was weighing them down.
And then some people quit, and they never quite get over that pull.
ari shaffir
They just keep trying.
unidentified
Phew.
ari shaffir
I had to accept.
You know how I say in AA that you're powerless over the drug?
Every time I'm like, I'll just have one or two a day, four a week.
It's like, no, I don't have power over this.
It'll be back at half a pack to a pack every day.
unidentified
That's so scary.
joe rogan
It's so scary that they made it that way.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
The addictive stuff isn't what gets you the good feeling.
joe rogan
Hey, Mitt Romney, can we talk about this?
Hey, Barack Obama, can we talk about this poison that kills a half a million people a year here?
It kills like something nutty, like 5 million worldwide die every year from cigarettes.
Like, whoa!
Could you imagine if you came out with some new shit, like skin cream, and it was killing 5 million people worldwide a year?
How long before they would pull that shit off the market?
ari shaffir
That's a fucking plague.
joe rogan
That's a plague.
unidentified
That's a new AIDS. It's an old AIDS. It would be so many more people if we didn't have it, though.
Oh, thank God for cigarettes and AIDS. Think about cigarettes and AIDS. It really helps us out getting the freeway.
joe rogan
And still, the 405 is jammed.
With all these people dropping off from cigarettes.
There's something sad to me about an old lady smoking cigarettes.
And I know that's stupid and hypocritical.
But I want to feel like an old lady should have someone in her life who loves her enough to get her to quit smoking cigarettes.
ari shaffir
To me, it's like, you did it.
joe rogan
You did it?
You made it?
You're old and you're still smoking?
ari shaffir
You got through the maze.
You got through.
It's like she survived the Hunger Games.
joe rogan
There's some women that have that brassy, they know you don't want to fuck them, it's done, it's over.
ari shaffir
They're okay with it.
joe rogan
And so they're a different thing.
It's not like a woman.
They become like this really old thing who can, well, I'll tell you what, when you were my age, sonny.
ari shaffir
I've been undesirable for 28 years.
joe rogan
They get accustomed to it.
That must be so sad, though, for a chick.
Because really beautiful chicks are super powerful.
They have superpowers.
They go into a room and everybody loves them.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I said this on Twitter, but I realized recently, it's like the only difference between someone who you look at as a crazy person and someone who you look at as cute or quirky is fuckability.
joe rogan
That's true.
ari shaffir
That's the only difference.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, for sure.
Yeah, you look back and think about some of the girls that you dated.
And men too.
ari shaffir
Flavor Flav was the same behavior then that he is now.
But because he was younger and more vibrant, you're like, oh, that guy's just a little weird.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you want to fuck them, they become way easier to hang out with when they're completely insane.
ari shaffir
You justify their behavior, insane or terrible.
joe rogan
Well, don't you think at a certain point in your life when you meet a person, they're just your sex dispenser?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Part of it, you masturbate with them.
joe rogan
Yeah, you masturbate with them.
There's people that you have legitimate relationships with, but there's some people that you just fucking never click with.
ari shaffir
Well, they're also sort of both.
On any level, they're both.
So I've apologized for girlfriends in my mind that have been rude to waitstaff, and later I'm like, yeah, she likes service done right, that's all.
But it's like, in your head, you're like, come on.
That's an asshole.
And you're ignoring it.
joe rogan
People, they grow up with that shit.
That's the problem.
We're so adaptable.
You know, if you look at all the different sort of like crazy cultures and what they condone and don't condone all over the world, and if you think about how similar human beings are genetically, like all over the world, the variation is so small, but yet...
The behavior patterns are so radically different between what's going on right now in Bahrain and what's going on right now in Beverly Hills.
The same era on Earth.
The apocalypse is going on in one place.
In another place, you're walking down the street in Bel Air and there's manicured lawns and everyone's friendly and it smells great.
There's flowers everywhere.
ari shaffir
Birds are chirping.
joe rogan
You get in your convertible, you drive down to Starbucks, you sit there with your feet up on a chair.
ari shaffir
How can there be war?
Everything's so great.
joe rogan
I remember it was you, me, Diaz, and I think Duncan might have been with us too.
It was one of the days after 9-11, before the plane started flying again.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we were all sitting around like outside of a Starbucks or one of those coffee beans or something like that.
And we were sitting around just talking about how beautiful it was.
Like how could there be a war right now?
Where we're sitting right here in Southern California.
ari shaffir
It's so far removed.
joe rogan
It was so far removed.
It was so beautiful.
There was no planes.
There was no planes flying around because it was 9-11.
So you never got to hear anything fly overhead.
And it was way quieter.
It was almost like we went back in time for a couple days.
It was weird, man.
You don't realize how often you hear fucking planes.
Especially if you're anywhere near the airport.
Those fucking things are giant engine time.
ari shaffir
You're ignored after a while.
That's why whenever you shoot something, and the sound guy has to be playing, and you're like, what?
Oh, I didn't know.
joe rogan
Dude, all the time.
I'm a wizard of catching that shit.
ari shaffir
Yeah, because you know it's going to ruin the shot.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'll stop people from doing things on Fear Factor.
They're like, hold on, hold on, hold on.
We got a plane, we got a plane, we got a plane.
But yeah, we were sitting around, and I remember we were thinking, like...
How could there be a war going on somewhere?
How could there be a place of such complete disarray that planes are flying into buildings and thousands of people are dying?
When you and me and Diaz are just sitting here high as fuck, drinking coffee and just kicking back, looking at the sun, looking at this perfect weather.
We're too connected with the whole world, man.
ari shaffir
Yeah, sometimes it's like, there should be just village.
Like, we're just here now.
We shouldn't worry about what's happening over there, or a different planet, or a different, like, whatever.
It's like, it's not our star system.
We're just having a good time.
joe rogan
The problem is, then, other people form gangs, and they take over.
ari shaffir
And they invade, just like that Mayan movie.
joe rogan
It's almost like, you know, when people say this, like Americans, those troops are fighting for our freedom.
They're not, but they are.
ari shaffir
They're not fighting for our freedom.
joe rogan
But they are.
But they are.
Because someone always, throughout history, has become the baddest motherfuckers on the planet.
Someone.
Whether it was the Greeks or the Romans or the United States of America.
Somebody had to dictate what the fuck happens.
No one ever done it as well as the U.S. has done it.
But we've always had to do it.
ari shaffir
There's been a guy in charge.
joe rogan
And so the argument is...
Look, if anybody's going to do it, it should be us.
Because let me tell you something, as far as the rest of the world goes, we're about as nice as you can get.
As far as how we treat our own, this is about as nice as we can get.
ari shaffir
I know.
joe rogan
With this kind of power.
ari shaffir
But then you think, we're the only ones that ever dropped the bomb.
We're the only ones that ever did that.
We don't trust anybody else with it.
The only person who has a loss on that is us.
And we have two.
We're 0-2.
joe rogan
What's fucked up is that we dropped two bombs.
We dropped the bomb, and then we're like, I quit!
I quit!
I can't hear you!
It was like those hack MCs that open up comedy clubs.
Y'all ready for Ari Shaffir?
ari shaffir
I can't hear you!
Here's my new joke.
joe rogan
Are y'all ready for Ari Shafir?
ari shaffir
Here's my new joke.
Tell me what you think of this.
joe rogan
Okay.
ari shaffir
I'll just do it now.
I don't care.
Hey, you guys like impressions?
And you don't have everybody claps.
I'm going to go, no you don't.
No you don't.
Why'd you clap at that?
You know you don't want them.
You don't like them.
joe rogan
It's a good joke.
You're telling people what they like.
I love it.
ari shaffir
Nobody likes impressions.
joe rogan
I do.
ari shaffir
Everyone claps.
I'm like, alright.
joe rogan
Ari, you like different things than other people.
There's a man named Rich Little.
He made his whole career out of making impressions of other people.
In fucking 1830. How about Danny Gans?
Danny Gans, before he died, of pills, by the way.
ari shaffir
No, of stress, for having to do impressions all day long, every day.
That ate away at his inside.
joe rogan
What are you saying?
ari shaffir
Of pills, whatever it was.
Why was he taking the pills for?
Because he was in an awesome mood all the time.
Sweet, sweet art.
joe rogan
Like we said, Ari, you can get addicted to those terrible little pills.
ari shaffir
Tice used to do a great bit about Danny Gans.
Did he?
Oh!
unidentified
Fucking Danny Gans!
ari shaffir
Only in Vegas.
As soon as he steps on the bus to leave Vegas.
When it leaves city limits.
Like Danny Gans is taking the bus away from Vegas.
As soon as everybody goes back there and spits in his face.
joe rogan
Isn't that funny?
ari shaffir
Fuck you, Gans.
joe rogan
You have to be, like, people have to, like, qualify his success.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Well, it's Vegas.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Only in Vegas.
joe rogan
He's massive.
ari shaffir
He makes millions a year.
joe rogan
Well, Rita Rudner, too.
She was one that was kind of struggling a little bit on the road.
Like, there was a bunch of...
unidentified
Yeah, go to Vegas.
joe rogan
Margaret Smith was in that category of women.
It was, like, really funny women stand-up comics.
But at a certain point in time, you stopped hearing about them.
You know, Margaret Smith was hilarious.
ari shaffir
And they went to Vegas.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
She was in the Kinison era.
She didn't, but Rudner was from her era.
And Rudner carved out a huge career for herself in Vegas.
Every time I'm there, I see posters and billboards and shit.
She's always a popular act in Vegas.
Yeah, but also people can look forward to seeing her again.
ari shaffir
That's why the comedy scene is shit in Vegas.
Because there's so many great shows at all times.
Why don't we go see a local guy?
We're seeing legends.
There's ten legends playing at any point right here.
What am I going to go see...
joe rogan
Yeah, you can go see Bill Cosby.
ari shaffir
And if you're locals, you can get two for wands or comps.
Yeah, you can see Bill Cosby.
You can see Joe Rogan.
You can see fucking Seinfeld.
joe rogan
Damn, you just put me in with Seinfeld and Bill Cosby?
unidentified
Holla.
joe rogan
You can see a lot of good comedy, man.
We were so looking forward to doing that show.
ari shaffir
I took off weeks for that.
I took off weeks for that.
joe rogan
So sad.
I'm so excited.
We wound up bringing it to the Ice House.
ari shaffir
Can I make an announcement?
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck yeah, bitch.
ari shaffir
My CD is coming out.
joe rogan
Duh!
ari shaffir
What's it called?
Revenge for the Holocaust.
joe rogan
Whoa, I like it.
ari shaffir
Thank you.
joe rogan
That's a good name, dude.
ari shaffir
Thank you.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
Is it going to be on iTunes as well?
ari shaffir
It's going to be on iTunes September 25th.
It goes on sale probably this weekend.
joe rogan
Dude, we're going to blow that fucking thing up.
It goes on sale today, like online.
You can buy it.
And then iTunes, when?
When's the iTunes?
unidentified
No, no, no.
ari shaffir
It's going up to iTunes today.
It'll probably be up there Friday.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
ari shaffir
Available for pre-sale.
But September 25th is the official first...
For sale.
But, here's what I'm doing.
joe rogan
But you can buy pre-sale.
What does that mean?
ari shaffir
Start buying it, and then it comes out on the 25th.
joe rogan
Just give me it.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I know.
I'll just give it to you.
joe rogan
Give it to me?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You were really happy with this one, too.
ari shaffir
I'm really happy with it.
I'm really excited.
And the cover, my friend did the cover, and I fucking love it.
joe rogan
Oh, that's dope.
ari shaffir
I like that.
joe rogan
Oh, I like that.
He's an evil Jew spider.
ari shaffir
Yeah, going after a Hitler spy.
joe rogan
That's beautiful, dude.
ari shaffir
But yeah, if you go to my website, I'm giving away four tracks.
joe rogan
That might be one of my favorite CD covers of all time.
ari shaffir
It's pretty sweet, right?
I'm really happy with it.
joe rogan
I was really thinking, if I was just a non-comedian, like a kid who really was into comedy like I was at one point in time, if I ever found this in the CD aisle, like at the record store, I'd be like, oh, fuck yeah.
I got Ari Shaffir's new shit, Revenge for the Holocaust.
I would buy that just out of general principle.
ari shaffir
Just out of like, hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, if I knew that that was a stand-up comic, I had an uncle that used to do that, my uncle Vinny.
He's from the era of records, but he would take me to the record store and he goes, I would just sometimes buy...
ari shaffir
Look through the album art?
joe rogan
Yeah, he'll buy a record just based on its album art.
I've done that before, too, and made horrendous mistakes.
Especially when it comes to fantasy art.
Swords and shit.
ari shaffir
Iron Maiden stuff is so sweet, but their music is like...
joe rogan
I like Iron Maiden.
It's okay.
I can get into some Iron Maiden.
ari shaffir
It ain't as cool as the art.
joe rogan
The what?
ari shaffir
It ain't as cool as their artwork.
joe rogan
Their artwork is really badass.
ari shaffir
Same as Grateful Dead.
It's like, their artwork is way better than Def Leppard.
joe rogan
Iron Maiden is that monster, right?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
Eddie?
ari shaffir
Coming bat out of hell.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bat out of hell.
ari shaffir
And you know what they do?
That I've never seen...
This is what they do.
They have a few tour shirts for the year.
They will never reproduce that art.
They're done selling that shirt forever after that.
We have a North American tour and it's done.
joe rogan
That doesn't make sense to me.
Keep selling.
People want to buy it.
ari shaffir
Every year a new shirt.
And so now you have a 2010 shirt.
Someone else has a 2007 shirt.
You're all at fucking the same festival.
joe rogan
I get it.
But what if the 2007 shirt is awesome and I want to buy one?
I want to be able to buy the old shirts.
I feel like you should just keep selling them.
ari shaffir
I feel like that too, but I like something about we were there and you had to be there to get it.
joe rogan
You know what I don't like about it?
You artificially control the supply.
You decide, we're only going to release 250 people.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
If a thousand people want them, sell a thousand, you crazy fuck.
Why are you creating a mad clown?
ari shaffir
Yeah, only get it live.
What about the people who can't see you live?
joe rogan
What if a million people want to buy your crazy fucking hat?
You're only going to sell 10 hats?
This is a limited edition run of 10 hats.
Sell all the hats!
ari shaffir
Anyway, I'm giving away four tracks for free if you go to my website.
Beautiful.
AriTheGreat.com or AriShaffir.com.
Just go there.
I'm honestly really happy with it and I think if you listen to it, you'll be a fan.
joe rogan
So four tracks absolutely for free.
unidentified
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Why are you pumping your own shit up like that?
ari shaffir
I do like it.
I like it.
joe rogan
Let me do it for you.
ari shaffir
Okay, help me out.
joe rogan
Ari Shaffir.
I've known Ari Shaffir for a long fucking time.
I made rookie mistakes.
Yeah, but you made some fucking great moments, too.
Rookie mistakes are fine.
The real problem is the lack of the great moments in with the rookie mistakes.
You would have hilarious bits, and then you would clunk one in there.
But everybody does that.
You just were trying to find the footing.
ari shaffir
Trying to be too...
Too out there, too little, whatever it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, we feel yourself pushing a bit too hard.
But I've watched you transform into a real, legit headliner.
It's been fucking cool, especially over the last couple of years because of doing a lot of podcasts and doing a lot of internet-related stuff.
You got, especially, you got really famous for the racist stuff, the amazing racist stuff.
And then from that to seeing your stand-up, you put out...
ari shaffir
No one ever came to see me from that, though.
Here or there.
joe rogan
But it's all podcast stuff now, right?
It's all people coming to see you from the podcast.
ari shaffir
And then remembering that other stuff.
And saying, I also liked you when you did that stuff.
joe rogan
And it's people that have come to Vegas when we performed.
ari shaffir
I've seen you perform before, too.
That's the best one.
joe rogan
You and I have done thousands of shows.
If you stop and think about all the fucking shows that we did, and all the different places, and all the different Friday nights where we did two shows, and Saturday nights where we did two shows, then we did a show on Sunday, and sometimes we did Thursday, too.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
We did a lot.
ari shaffir
We started at four-day weeks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
We went to three and two.
joe rogan
Yeah, we got too crazy.
That's not a comfortable way to do the road.
When you're doing the road that's four and five days out at a time, it's like, get me fucking home.
ari shaffir
This is gross.
joe rogan
You've got to manage the uncomfort with the, like, what are you getting out of it?
ari shaffir
I've had to do that, but then the problem is this.
It's like, I told you, I'll have like three weeks, and I'll have like a week off, then I'll have another three weeks.
I'm like, I need that week off.
But then DC Improv calls, and you're like, fuck, I gotta go there.
joe rogan
The crazy thing is even the week off, it's like, why not go on stage?
ari shaffir
Well, that's what I would do at home.
Go to the comedy store and do it there.
joe rogan
We have the greatest job in the history of the world, and it's not an easy job.
It's hard to figure out how to get really good at it, but once you get good at it, then it becomes easy, and it's the most rewarding shit of all time.
We did the Ice House this past weekend.
We did two shows there, and it was Fucking sensational.
Fucking sensational.
Friday and Saturday.
Friday is always a little weird because people are tired.
And we do a late show.
It's like a 10.30 show on Friday.
So it doesn't really start until 11. And people have been working all day.
And then they start drinking.
It's hard to keep...
ari shaffir
Friday at late is usually the worst show of the week.
joe rogan
It was still great.
Saturday was off the fucking chain.
Saturday was amazing.
Bob Fisher came on stage and brought up a bottle of champagne.
He's a sweetheart.
ari shaffir
That's a long way from having to hide the fact that you're drinking on stage at the Tempe Impro.
I have to put it in a flask and say it's apple juice.
joe rogan
Isn't that the most ridiculous shit of all time?
Isn't that the most ridiculous shit literally of all time?
ari shaffir
We've done some great shows.
We've had some great times.
joe rogan
We literally did that.
We brought a flask on stage.
ari shaffir
You wouldn't let us drink?
They said it was a state law or something?
joe rogan
They made up a law.
ari shaffir
Because Christians own the place.
joe rogan
They made up a law.
It's so stupid.
And I had to say it to the owner.
I said, listen, man.
I go, this place is filled with people that want to see us get crazy.
Okay?
We want to get crazy.
ari shaffir
They wouldn't let us drink.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I go, I want to do a couple shots.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, come on, man.
I'm here to start a party.
I'm here to do a stand-up comedy show.
I like to have fun.
Let's have some fun.
I know what I'm doing, okay?
I'm not a child.
ari shaffir
And they wouldn't serve it to the green room.
And then Red Band got a great idea.
unidentified
And Rogan fucking funded it.
joe rogan
We got whiskey in a flask.
ari shaffir
Oh no, we got about a bunch of bottles.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
We put it in that back corner.
joe rogan
We got fucked up, man.
ari shaffir
And then we just kept saying, can I have some more Coca-Cola?
joe rogan
Yeah, we just got blasted on Coca-Cola.
ari shaffir
With mixers.
joe rogan
They couldn't figure out what was going on.
We were tipping the weights to have 100 bucks for Coca-Colas.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but then somebody ratted you out.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, it was one of the waitresses.
unidentified
One of the waitresses was, she was a familiar to the Demon King.
joe rogan
Tell me, what have they done down at the club?
This one wears alcohol on stage.
unidentified
Nonsense!
joe rogan
He is not allowed!
Cannot be true!
ari shaffir
Remember what he said to me?
joe rogan
He drinks alcohol on stage.
ari shaffir
Remember when we got there?
A heretic.
We got there, and we were in the parking lot.
Joey Diaz is already inside.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He gets mad at you.
ari shaffir
Yeah, we're in the parking lot a couple minutes early.
We're like, let's smoke a joint.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Then we'll go in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Diaz, start the show.
We'll be in in a couple minutes.
joe rogan
Dude's 15. The music wasn't even on.
ari shaffir
I called, like, Dan wants to talk to you.
I was like, what?
unidentified
Why?
ari shaffir
He goes, what the fuck?
We had to delay the show for 30 minutes because of you.
People are standing in the rain.
I'm like, don't.
What minutes?
What are you talking about?
joe rogan
He would just make shit up.
ari shaffir
It was the first time I ever talked back to a club owner.
He goes, well, you're not going on this show.
And I'm like, I am damn well going on this show.
This is the only reason I'm here.
I don't give a fuck about the money.
I'm going on this show.
joe rogan
You almost got that loud.
ari shaffir
I didn't get that loud.
I said, Dan, I'm going on.
And then I got super worried.
joe rogan
You got really heartbeady.
ari shaffir
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Dan, I'm going on.
And then I go, dude, you're going on.
Stop it.
ari shaffir
That helps a lot.
joe rogan
Fuck out of here.
ari shaffir
I was so nervous.
joe rogan
Well, at a certain point in time, what we would do the way we do...
I mean, the improvs are like some of the most professionally run clubs in the country.
But at a certain point in time, we would take over the room.
ari shaffir
That's what we do for the night.
joe rogan
Well, we took over the room.
A lot of clubs you go to, even when Callan goes on the road, Callan doesn't do it the same way we do it.
What Callan does is he goes there and they have an opening act and a middle act that they book.
And he just shows up, he's the headliner.
That way he doesn't have to pay as much for people's airfare and all the other shit that I pay for.
But for me, I'm like, what are you doing?
You don't take over the room that way.
Then you have to deal with...
Yeah, then you're just a part of an act and you're a part of a comedy club experience.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's way more whole fucking night that way.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So what we would do is say, listen, we're going to provide the opening act, we're going to provide the middle act, and it's not up to them to say yes or no.
It's like, I've got a long, long, long reputation of bringing funny people on the road with me.
I always bring headliners on the road with me, so you know it's going to be a top-level act.
So don't worry about that.
And if it's a matter of whether or not you think my audience can't handle it, well, that's not your...
It's not up to you to decide.
ari shaffir
Because you brought the whole audience.
joe rogan
Yeah, I brought the whole crowd.
unidentified
That's the difference.
ari shaffir
Usually they're dealing with people who, you might bring 20% of the audience, 10%, but I'm sure the rest of these people are happy.
joe rogan
So he tried to get crazy, but I was like, no, he can't get crazy.
We bought the room.
We essentially have a contract.
You can't just break the contract because you decide that a guy's late.
That's crazy.
He's really working for me.
I'm a private contractor.
I'm a subcontractor to this contract.
Don't make me fucking smack you, bitch.
Sit the fuck down, crazy asshole.
He was just a dude who liked to party.
And he would come to work the next day with a headache.
And he'd get just fucking grumpy as shit.
When I meet a dude like that, honestly, I mean, I love Danny Murr.
And I'm not talking about him in particular, because I really never had a problem with that dude.
He and I never had a problem.
He was upset at me once because I came into town to do a theater and I didn't do his club.
But the only reason why I did it is because this radio station promoted it.
To me, it was like this radio station had played my Voodoo Panani song.
It became the number one song in Phoenix.
Only in Phoenix.
ari shaffir
They wanted you to do a thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, so they wanted me to come in and do a show for them.
Now, I couldn't say no.
It was like 1999. I couldn't say no.
It's like nobody ever offered to put me in a theater before.
Like, holy shit, this radio station's going to take a gamble.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you're like, dude, no offense to the other club.
I'm sorry.
It's not against you.
unidentified
Yeah, come on.
ari shaffir
Just got to set an offer for something.
joe rogan
Dude, you know, recognize.
But when I see a dude who gets snippy and snappy like that, I get sad.
Because I know that that's just a person whose chemical system is just completely out of fucking whack.
ari shaffir
Project.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's just not healthy.
How the fuck could we...
There's no way that guy's healthy.
That guy's a mess.
His whole system...
He was always tired.
When you see people and you know their shit's not flowing well, you just really...
Don't you see that now when you're eating healthy?
You feel how much different your body feels?
ari shaffir
And of course, it would react the opposite way when you eat the opposite.
Coming on the road with you, probably that...
The comedy store and maybe my upbringing were probably the biggest influences on my stand-up.
Those three things.
Because seeing those big crowds and then being able to temper it with fucking shitty eight-person rooms at the store...
joe rogan
Well, something happened along the way within the last few years where people started recognizing you.
And they knew to expect you.
Whereas I used to bring you up and the real meatheads would be like, Where's Rogan?
Where's Rogan?
Bring Rogan up!
The real douchey dudes that I really got rid of almost all of them now.
ari shaffir
But then a couple times, you'd find it just here a little by little.
A couple people were like, Ari, you going up tonight?
I was like, really?
You know me ahead of time?
joe rogan
Yeah, and I would see it on the forums and shit.
I hope Ari comes with him.
And then somewhere along the line, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Ari Shaffir.
unidentified
Yeah!
ari shaffir
Yeah, they're all excited for it.
joe rogan
That's weird lately, man.
The Diaz ones that I've been recording.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
joe rogan
It's like everywhere they're trying to top themselves.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because now it's become like some sort of a crazy competition.
Because in Denver they went fucking berserk.
They went berserk.
ari shaffir
Winnipeg in 2010 was the first time I saw that on a large scale level.
Because I don't think you've ever played Winnipeg.
I've never been back.
It was my favorite show of 2010. It was crazy.
It was fun, man.
joe rogan
That was the only place I could do like that back then.
ari shaffir
It was a two or three level place.
And they went so crazy while I was on.
Right when I walked on, as you were saying introduction notes, they'd start clapping.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Because they'd know who it is.
They'd say credits.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was, for whatever reason, man, my comedy took off in Canada before it ever did in America.
Like, I would do way better in theaters in Canada.
Remember when we would do, like, Calgary?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We'd have to do two shows.
Well, I did two shows recently.
Two shows at that fucking Jack Singer concert hall?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
And we did a show where they sold out like an extra, I don't know how many seats, but they had to bring them on stage.
So we had people on the stage with us.
ari shaffir
On the stage with us, yeah.
joe rogan
But it was like, they gave us the option of that or those people get refunded and they have to go home.
I was like, fuck that, man.
ari shaffir
I was like, yeah, we can't let them go out.
joe rogan
I'm like, this is going to be a cool story.
Because these people had like babysitters and shit.
I mean, who knows what kind of...
ari shaffir
They thought they could take the rafters out and they could sit behind us, but then they couldn't do that.
joe rogan
They couldn't do that.
It was at least 80 people.
It was a lot of people.
ari shaffir
The stage was humongous.
We didn't need it all.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was fine.
ari shaffir
If we don't need it all, then we're like, give some to them.
joe rogan
And it became fodder.
It became kind of funny.
You're standing next to someone who's in a chair who's just watching you.
ari shaffir
You're trying to act out a hump out.
You're in some old lady's face.
You're like, so sorry about this, ma'am.
I've got to do this here.
joe rogan
You're looking at their drink going, that's delicious.
What is that?
That looks awesome.
Is that salted?
Oh, nice.
ari shaffir
I did Doug Benson's interruption yesterday.
joe rogan
Did you like that?
ari shaffir
No, not the interruption.
Doug loves movies.
And some guy in the front row was bringing out those purple, the grape twizzlers.
And I was like, oh.
And he gave me the sign of like, do you want one?
And I nodded.
And he threw one up to me.
It was awesome.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it was delicious.
It's one grape swizzler.
You can interact with people.
joe rogan
A solid piece of candy.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a good invention.
It doesn't taste anything like grape.
We were talking about this the other day.
ari shaffir
Oh, no.
It tastes like purple.
joe rogan
We did that podcast.
We've accepted a fake grape taste for grape soda, grape gum.
It doesn't taste anything like a real grape.
But when you eat it, you go, oh, that's grape.
You accept it as being a fake grape.
You know, like cherry soda.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Unless you're getting some, like, legit deli cherry soda.
ari shaffir
That's maraschino cherry juice.
That's what that is.
It's like candy cherry.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not really cherries.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Cherry soda's pretty fucking good, though, isn't it?
Cherry Coke?
It's pretty rare.
You know, if you're really looking to wreck your fucking immune system, and you're eating, like, a pastrami sandwich with, you know, fucking Thousand Island dressing slopping off the sides of it, and you have a cherry Coke, oh, yeah.
unidentified
It's delicious.
joe rogan
Give me craziness!
I want more sugar!
ari shaffir
I love it too when they're like, well we don't have the grenadine, can we pour the juice in?
I was like, yeah, pour the juice in.
joe rogan
Oh my god, you go that deep?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
One time at Denny's we were all eating there and I asked her for cherry, like put the cherry juice in.
She didn't know and she poured the thing out but it was all the peanuts had like leaked over in their sundae area.
And so there's pieces of peanuts floating in it and I was like, what is peanuts doing in here?
And then I realized what it was.
So she just poured the whole sundae area thing over to get the cherry juice out.
joe rogan
Wow.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a little too much sugar for your system, son.
ari shaffir
Not my system.
unidentified
It's like...
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so bad for you to drink that much sugar.
To eat that much sugar.
Yeah.
I keep reading shit about sugar, how bad it is.
ari shaffir
I gotta try to wean off it.
joe rogan
Why does it taste so goddamn good, though?
ari shaffir
Because when I haven't had it in a while, because I eat so much of it, when I haven't had it in a while, I get low blood sugar, because I'm used to it now.
joe rogan
You know what, dude?
You know what you can't fuck with?
Haagen-Dazs chocolate ice cream.
ari shaffir
It's delicious.
unidentified
Holy shit, it's good.
ari shaffir
If you invest in a quality ice cream bar or chocolate bar sometimes, when you're like, let me just get Nestle's.
That's okay, but let me go above and beyond.
You're like, oh, this has done better.
No wonder it's a dollar extra.
joe rogan
Dark chocolate bar.
It's dark chocolate on the outside with chocolate on the inside.
ari shaffir
You ever go to a real Häagen-Dazs place where they dip in the chocolate and let it melt right on there for you?
joe rogan
Fuck yes, son.
ari shaffir
Those are awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you don't know, by the way, none of you know what ice cream tastes like unless you smoke pot.
You think!
ari shaffir
You think!
joe rogan
You think you know what a sundae tastes like?
Bitch, you're living in a dream.
You're sucking a dick through a roll of toilet paper.
You're not feeling it.
You're not feeling it.
You're not getting the full experience.
ari shaffir
There is no better part of my depression than when I was taking some medication to let me have hyperphagia where I would never feel full.
I would get stoned and not feel full and just for an hour just eat syrup and whipped cream and just mow.
More and more.
joe rogan
Did you hit the wall?
ari shaffir
It was so good.
I had to tell myself you're done.
joe rogan
But what did you feel like?
Did you feel exhausted from all the sugar?
ari shaffir
No.
You would just get a little more weight down.
Dude, I would eat until there's nothing left to eat.
It was so good.
When you get high, you can finish off anything.
joe rogan
Wow, dude.
That seems, like, dangerous.
ari shaffir
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
To get so you can't get full...
Can't your stomach explode?
Can't you, like, eat too much and your stomach explodes?
ari shaffir
They warn you.
I have to be like, okay, eight plates of spaghetti, probably that's enough, right?
joe rogan
Can it break?
I mean, your stomach can break, right?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Do those eater guys, those professional eaters...
ari shaffir
You probably barf.
You throw up.
joe rogan
I guess.
ari shaffir
It's like drinking a gallon of milk.
You can't do it because your body would make you throw it up.
joe rogan
Is that true?
ari shaffir
That's the rumor.
joe rogan
Really?
Well, I guess there's not enough room.
ari shaffir
Yeah, and you would want to drink...
joe rogan
Imagine if you could drink a gallon of milk, what your fucking stomach would look like.
It's really crazy.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I bet Joey Diaz could drink a gallon of milk.
ari shaffir
We had, and me and David Taylor's talk show, we had Mark Hatch was going to come in and try.
joe rogan
Joey Diaz is a big guy.
ari shaffir
I'd be willing to let him try.
He's not going to do it.
joe rogan
You don't think he could do it?
ari shaffir
He doesn't want to be the human, like...
No, he wouldn't do it.
joe rogan
He wouldn't do it.
But if he wanted to do it, he could do it.
ari shaffir
I think he couldn't.
joe rogan
You don't think he could do it?
ari shaffir
No.
joe rogan
So it's a physiological thing.
No one can do it.
ari shaffir
It's like you can't eat a piece of white bread or two pieces of white bread in a minute.
joe rogan
What about like a Tim Sylvia?
Like a giant dude?
ari shaffir
I say no.
joe rogan
You don't think he can do it?
ari shaffir
I even say Big Ben.
joe rogan
Big Ben Rothwell?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He couldn't drink it down in the middle.
ari shaffir
Oh no, Nelson?
Who's the guy with the big fat stomach?
unidentified
Roy Nelson?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't think he can drink it down in the middle?
ari shaffir
I bet next time we see Roy Nelson, let's try to ask him.
Well, he'd be fighting, I guess.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't ask him in the middle of that.
Or later.
You can't say, hey, this is a good fight.
Hey, can you drink it down in the middle?
unidentified
Can you drink it down in the middle?
joe rogan
Just totally blow off the fact that I just fought to the death against Shane Carwin.
ari shaffir
Now that you're not training anymore, can we interest you in filming you drinking?
If Nelson is out there, please film that.
unidentified
Hey, good fight.
joe rogan
Listen, man, I have a podcast, and we're regularly number 40 on iTunes, and I'd be willing to actually put this online if you would drink a gallon of milk.
Do you think you can drink a gallon of milk?
ari shaffir
I say can't do it.
Film the whole thing and watch them start barfing.
joe rogan
Well, I don't know, man.
You and I should be the ones to talk about that, actually, because we were there for the Opie and Anthony Big Bird Challenge.
How much do you think that guy drank?
Because he was in like the 70 shots.
ari shaffir
A double shot.
Just one double shot every minute.
What's a double shot?
joe rogan
I don't know.
What is a double shot?
Is it that big?
How many ounces is that?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
We'd have to find out the exact amounts.
joe rogan
He drank 70-something shots of eggnog.
I think that's a gallon, dude.
ari shaffir
Maybe.
Why do you think that?
Just because?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I'm totally making it up.
ari shaffir
It's not like 60 times 2. I'm completely making it up.
joe rogan
I don't have a fucking clue.
I would just think that if I bought a gallon of eggnog and I poured 70 people drinks from it, I would be shocked.
ari shaffir
You'd be out of it.
joe rogan
I would be shocked at the economy of this gallon.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, he did it.
joe rogan
He did it.
He drank more than a gallon.
ari shaffir
Pat from Woonaki.
joe rogan
Pat from Woonaki.
Because if you watch the video of Pat from Woonaki hurling...
I'm not going to play anything for you, but you were there live with me.
ari shaffir
I was there live.
joe rogan
We were there in the studio.
ari shaffir
So was Burr, so was Norton, so was Opie and Anthony.
joe rogan
Was Redman there too?
ari shaffir
Redman was not there.
joe rogan
He was not there.
Holy shit, was it crazy.
unidentified
Oh my...
ari shaffir
And the smell!
And E-Rock was there.
joe rogan
They had a kid named Pat Duffy.
This is what happened, folks.
They had this nutty...
Eggnog drinking contest.
And Pat Fumunaki, who's a giant of a man.
He's an enormous, enormous fellow.
Another giant of a man.
Huge, enormous guy, this Pat Fumunaki.
And he's the current champ.
So he is keeping his fucking crown, okay?
By the way, he's diabetic.
unidentified
so he has to immediately oh he's so crazy Oh, by the way.
joe rogan
By the way, that's why Opie Anthony is the most awesomest radio show in the history of radio.
I mean, that's just, who the fuck else would do that?
Well, Stern would do that, too.
So anyway, they have this fucking guy, Pat Fumunaki, who's, you know, he can only keep it in his system for a certain amount of time.
ari shaffir
Otherwise, he has to get rid of it.
joe rogan
He's got to get rid of it because he could die literally from sugar overload.
And he has to go shoot himself in the stomach.
Yeah, he has to give himself a shot of insulin.
So there's a massive amount of shit going on here.
ari shaffir
But he's still playing.
He didn't let that stop him.
joe rogan
He's still winning.
ari shaffir
He's still a warrior.
joe rogan
So he says, I'm going to blow soon.
I'm going to blow soon.
And then somehow or another, I get this crazy idea where I say...
How about somebody leans over the garbage can and opens their mouth and he throws up in your mouth?
ari shaffir
Directly into your mouth.
joe rogan
And I'm thinking, there's no way anybody...
I'm saying something ridiculous.
I'm saying something like when Red Band's on the podcast and he says, why don't you just eat your own poop?
He doesn't really mean...
He's trying to say something completely ridiculous for funny.
Okay, that's what I was trying to do.
I was thinking, just for a joke, why don't I say...
ari shaffir
You say something as a joke, but they take you completely seriously.
joe rogan
Well, this Pat Duffy motherfucker said, I'm game.
This guy would do anything.
ari shaffir
It silenced the room.
joe rogan
He would catch a bullet with his dick.
That's what I remember.
ari shaffir
But him saying, I game, was like a...
joe rogan
We were like, what?
And then someone said...
I don't remember if they said what was happening.
Who named it the baby bird?
ari shaffir
Somebody else.
Was it Norton?
It might have been Vinnie Brand.
joe rogan
It might have been Vinnie Brand.
ari shaffir
Someone else was there.
Some other person was there.
joe rogan
And Bird was there.
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Bird came in just because he watched it the year before.
And he said, I want to be a part of that one this year.
joe rogan
Those guys are so, like, no one will understand.
If you've ever done, like, a radio show that's been, like, rigid and stiff and the people are nuts, you'll never understand ONA. I bought a Baby Bird t-shirt.
ari shaffir
I said, fuck it, one of the only shirts I'll buy.
unidentified
Why not, man?
joe rogan
Here's another thing that happened on ONA. We convinced stalker Patty, who's this crazy lady who comes to the studio, who's like a 49-year-old virgin.
She's really nuts, too.
We convinced her that she was on drugs.
We took a...
Are you going to take a leak?
We don't.
We convinced her that she had taken a drug, that we had put a drug...
No, thanks, man.
I'm good.
And completely psychosomatic.
Started having massive hallucinations.
So Ari pulls his ball sack out.
Your cock and balls or just your balls?
ari shaffir
Cock and balls.
joe rogan
Cock and balls.
ari shaffir
Could be bomb.
joe rogan
She was sitting there.
We had her completely convinced with sound effects and shit that she was just tripping her balls off.
ari shaffir
They had somebody put a rabbit suit on, run around the room once, and then run out.
Who was that?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
ari shaffir
That was either Roland or E-Rock.
That was one of those two guys.
joe rogan
It might have been E-Rock.
It was good fun with a crazy person, but what you did to take it to the next level, so you pulled your cock and balls out, which you probably could never do now, because you did this before they got kicked off the air for that Condoleezza Rice thing.
ari shaffir
Remember that homeless guy?
Oh yeah, that would be too rapey for them now.
joe rogan
Yeah, that homeless guy said a lot of crazy shit, like he wanted to rape Condoleezza Rice.
ari shaffir
He didn't even say that.
joe rogan
What did he say?
ari shaffir
He said he wants to love her hard.
He wants to love her until she loves it.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
It was innuendo for rape, possibly.
joe rogan
I hear girls like that.
They like it if they love it.
ari shaffir
I hear it too when they say, I love when you do that.
joe rogan
They like that.
But that's not rape.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is that what he said?
unidentified
For real?
ari shaffir
Something like that.
Yeah, it was just taken out of context.
joe rogan
I thought he said something way more fucked up than that.
I remember it being pretty racy.
ari shaffir
And the queen too.
He was going to hold her down and make her love him.
The Queen.
The Queen of England.
That's a homeless guy.
joe rogan
He's a homeless guy.
ari shaffir
Who cares what he says?
joe rogan
Yeah, I just think that's pretty funny.
Why would they suspend the show for that?
unidentified
That's so silly.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but you gave me a look.
I was sitting at the couch, and you gave me a look, and it was like, oh, am I welcome to do things here?
And those guys, Open Anthony, were so cool that I was like, because I knew I was only there hanging out with you, but I was like, I think they're okay if I play here.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
And they totally were.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, they're all about...
ari shaffir
There's never like a level.
You're not...
joe rogan
That's a good point.
ari shaffir
They never do that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a real good point.
ari shaffir
Like, oh, you're a comic?
You're a friend of his?
unidentified
Cool.
ari shaffir
How are you?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And well, that's how some of their best guests come about.
And then they've made some of their best guests famous.
You know, when I first started going to New York, I couldn't get on their show, man.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
I was in Jersey.
Yeah, I wasn't known enough.
ari shaffir
Oh, they already had a show back then.
joe rogan
Yeah, they were doing the Afternoons.
Oh, really?
I would do Rascals, Rascals Comedy in Jersey.
I forget where it was.
Orange?
West Orange?
Yeah, West Orange.
Really nice club, but it's hard to get people to come in back then, because I was a nobody.
I was headlining, but I was on Hardball.
Nobody knew who the fuck I was.
So I would do a show, and it would be half-empty.
But if you got on Opie and Anthony, you'd pack that place.
They would always talk about Jay Moore.
Jay Moore did Opie and Anthony.
And it would just pack the fucking cloth.
unidentified
Pack it.
ari shaffir
So you just wanted in.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was like, well, if I could get there, God.
But I couldn't get on.
I didn't have enough clout.
So once I started doing it, it was like, ah, it was so fun.
They're nuts, man.
They've done some nutty fucking stunts.
ari shaffir
But this guy leaned over a trash can and tilted his head back like he was getting his hair shampooed at a barber.
joe rogan
Pat from Munaki, all 300-plus pounds of him, this enormous man who has drank, I believe it was 74 shots.
And I'm being conservative.
ari shaffir
He beat the last guy, then drank a couple more while the other guy got ready.
joe rogan
Oh, he kept going.
He beat his own record.
ari shaffir
And he was like, yeah, that's what he did.
He went to beat his record, and then he goes, all right, it's time.
joe rogan
And then he's like, all right, that's about it.
That's all I got.
That's all I got.
And so this guy actually did what I suggested, this Pat Duffy guy, did Lean Over the Barrel.
ari shaffir
Because that was a height of fear factor.
So it was like a perfect fear factor thing.
joe rogan
Exactly.
And Pat from Wunaki did what can only be described as a comic book throw-up in this guy's mouth.
Like, nowhere in the world has anyone thrown up on a person the way he did it.
There's no way it's been done.
ari shaffir
There's a still picture, and it looks like he is enveloping, like a spider, breaking down with its fluids.
joe rogan
I should also say that Pat from Wunaki also was a competitive eater.
ari shaffir
Oh, was he really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
He didn't just win this eggnog challenge.
He's done...
ari shaffir
One stop in the career.
The great career of one stop.
joe rogan
He's had a career in competitive eating where he's been fairly successful.
He's an extraordinary man when it comes to volume.
So he's got this...
ari shaffir
Killing it.
joe rogan
Fucking...
This broken fire hydrant spew...
Coming out of his mouth where we're going, NO! We're screaming!
And it lasts.
It lasts way more than should be real.
It seems like it's photoshopped.
If we weren't there, and if it wasn't from a bunch of different angles and shitty cell phone footage, I think our version is up.
One of us had a cell phone that was recording it, but it's so crazy.
It's so crazy.
The volume is so insane.
It's so cartoonish.
It's so comic bookish.
It's just...
It's the Exorcist.
I mean, it's insane.
ari shaffir
And then after we left, and there's barf everywhere, we were out of the studio ten minutes later, and we're like, Hey, Ron and Fez, enjoy this smell.
joe rogan
Yeah, no shit.
ari shaffir
We just left it to them.
joe rogan
Yeah, and these giant, like, big garbage pails filled with throw-up.
And there's plastic all over the floor.
ari shaffir
Stunk!
The air conditioner would come on, and the waft would hit you.
joe rogan
It was chaos.
It was pre-merger.
They had a lot more freedom back then.
And that was the regular radio version, right?
ari shaffir
Yes, yes.
That was FM. That was K-Rock in New York.
joe rogan
God, that was awesome.
That was so much fun.
And then the rest of the day, we were in bliss.
We got to see something fucked up.
Yay!
We saw something fucked up!
ari shaffir
It's the equivalent of when a girl blows you in the morning and the rest of the day you just feel good.
joe rogan
That's pretty hot.
It is.
It's close to it.
Yeah, we had achieved this moment of like, especially as comedians.
Yeah, comedians want to see fucked up things.
We want to see things that are ridiculous.
ari shaffir
Because right after that we had that whole thing with Jamie Masada from The Laugh Factory, who just, by the way, Dom, I did his podcast over there, and he goes, while Jamie's there, he goes, Jamie, how come you don't put Ari on?
He's got a following.
I put them on.
I'm like, Jamie, it's cool if you don't.
But no, you know you don't.
I'm never here.
Wow.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but he's like, okay, I'll put you on.
Now he's actively trying to get me in there.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
Dom is completely in our side.
ari shaffir
It's really nice of him to do that.
joe rogan
Dom's a good guy, man.
Yeah.
Dom quits drinking.
He quit drinking recently.
He's experienced this rejuvenation in the way he feels and about stand-up comedy.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, and doing the podcast a few times.
Stand-up is a lot of people coming out to see him from the podcast.
They come up to him afterwards.
ari shaffir
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, the quitting the drinking thing is fucking giants, man.
Oh, yeah, you have mine.
He's a great guy.
He's an interesting dude, too.
And Donna Rare is like the most honest, don't give a fuck guy left on earth.
His famous line that I always quote is, I wish I was gay just so I could come out of the closet.
That's how little I give a fuck.
ari shaffir
Anyway, if you go to my website, Ari the Great, Go there and get four free tracks for nothing.
joe rogan
Are you coming with me afterwards here to go see my studio?
ari shaffir
Are you going to see it?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Let's go see that movie.
unidentified
What movie?
ari shaffir
The one you were talking about.
joe rogan
Oh, the Jewish movie?
ari shaffir
No, the Will Ferrell movie.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I would go see that.
Okay.
I might have to do some baby shit, though.
I've got little girls.
I might have to remember whether or not I committed to doing anything.
ari shaffir
Okay, okay.
joe rogan
Sometimes I say, okay, we'll go do that later.
ari shaffir
And I don't remember.
joe rogan
And then my wife has to go, you promised you would do that later.
They get mad.
You can't disappoint.
Did you hear that shit?
ari shaffir
Oh, that was that.
joe rogan
That came through.
Yeah, they get a little shouty.
ari shaffir
Because it means a lot to them.
That's the thing I'd be so worried about with kids.
You make an offhanded statement and they take it forever.
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
You just make sure that you don't disappoint them.
It's more of a responsibility, but the reward of it is amazing.
It's hard to really wrap your head around.
I've been like you before.
I've been single and to be like, it's the last thing I want to fucking care.
Believe me.
I was like the voice of that before.
You just really don't understand what it's like until you have that experience.
ari shaffir
I get that.
There is a whole different side of it.
And there are benefits that I can't understand.
And there's negatives that I can't understand either.
I can just sort of wrap my head around.
What was I going to say?
unidentified
Fuck.
ari shaffir
Oh, the decision to whether or not you should have a baby should be thought of before randomly some girl says, hey, I'm pregnant.
You should already be decided, can we have a baby now or not?
Not like, wow, maybe we should do this.
That's not the right time to think about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, the two-year-old was the one that we did on purpose.
It was planned out and everything.
I was happy for the other daughter as well.
I mean, super happy.
ari shaffir
I remember when you told me about it as we were playing pool.
joe rogan
It was crazy, but super happy.
But planning for one is kind of a different thing.
Like, you're planning.
ari shaffir
Yeah, how is it different?
joe rogan
And it sounds so gay.
We're trying to get pregnant.
You know, she's trying to get pregnant, stupid.
You're just fucking her.
ari shaffir
Right.
joe rogan
You know, we're trying to get pregnant.
We're pregnant!
No, you're not!
You're not pregnant!
ari shaffir
That's the trade-off.
unidentified
Shut up, bitch.
ari shaffir
We had to pay you alimony for fucking 40 years, but we get to say we are pregnant?
joe rogan
It's just some beta shit.
It's just some beta shit that men fall into once they get their wife pregnant.
They become just...
Your testosterone drops.
It's really scientifically proven.
ari shaffir
Because you mimic their behavior, sort of?
Really?
joe rogan
Well, you become a nester.
You know, your testosterone drops when you're around babies, you're around your wife.
And it's also probably trying to calm you down to make you a little bit more patient.
josh olin
Nature knows what the fuck it's doing.
ari shaffir
I had a rabbi once in sixth grade, rabbi, not cracker, but anyway, he said the reason God makes babies cute is so we don't kill them.
joe rogan
I used to do that in my act.
Really?
Yeah, oxytocin.
ari shaffir
What's oxytocin?
joe rogan
It's something that your brain produces when you see your babies.
And it's an incredible feeling of love and connection.
This incredible drug.
It's the same drug that's released in women when they're orgasm.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
The joke in my accident.
And then it's to keep you from eating them when you get really hungry.
That's the reason why a baby produces oxytocin.
When you see them, you literally...
ari shaffir
It produces that in you.
A drug.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
You literally get drugged.
I mean, it's all set up.
It's set up so that we keep breeding.
It's not an accident that when you're around a chick, your dick gets hard, you get all attracted to her.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like this girl that has superpowers that you're talking about.
You're talking about like a beautiful girl who's like, she just thinks, she's got a superpower.
She can walk into a room and everybody wants to fuck her and so she's confused and she acts crazy but no one cares to tolerate anything because she's built like Tracy Lords.
ari shaffir
I think there's something to also the chemicals on you.
There's this new girl that hangs out at the store.
She's this comic.
And everybody, yeah, everyone walks by her and she's not super gorgeous and she doesn't dress slutty or anything.
joe rogan
She's just dirty.
ari shaffir
Yeah, she's just dirty.
unidentified
She's a dirty girl.
ari shaffir
And everybody walks by her and everyone's like, what's that girl's deal?
Like, I've heard a thousand comics ask.
And it's just, she's exuding something.
Some chemical.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's girls that are just sexy, man.
There's girls that are not that good looking, but they're fucking sexy.
ari shaffir
They give you a look.
Something comes, I don't know what it is.
joe rogan
And by the way, sex with them is always way better than sex with a girl who's really pretty but not into it.
ari shaffir
You want someone to be into it?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird what is sexy and what's not.
ari shaffir
Even if you're chubby, once the guy's willing to fuck you, let it all out.
Don't worry about like, oh, you shouldn't look at this.
joe rogan
That's what I'm talking about.
ari shaffir
Let it go.
joe rogan
Let it go, baby.
ari shaffir
We're happier there.
joe rogan
If he throws up, he throws up.
ari shaffir
Exactly, ain't gonna.
joe rogan
Yeah, the people used to love those porns where really fat guys would fuck girls.
I remember there was a magazine called Sluts and Slobs.
ari shaffir
That's what people like looking at.
Hot girls getting fucked by slobs.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was one of my favorite all-time magazines.
ari shaffir
Slobs is such a great word.
joe rogan
Because it was slobs, man.
ari shaffir
You're a slob.
joe rogan
It was dudes with, like, spaghetti stains on tank tops and shit with big fat stomachs.
ari shaffir
They were dressed as slobs, too?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, the whole fantasy was that these dudes were just slinging dick on these...
ari shaffir
Like a bunch of Mike Blacks with ketchup.
joe rogan
Oh, Remorse and Mike Black.
Mike Black's a fairly handsome man.
We're talking about, like, really fucking sweaty guys.
unidentified
Ugh.
Man.
ari shaffir
Yeah, dude, we've had some good times on the road.
joe rogan
Some crazy shit.
unidentified
Oh, fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, dude.
Well, the camaraderie that comes from being a stand-up comedian, it's like, it's hard for a lot.
Like, we talk about comedy all the time.
We talk about the art form of comedy.
unidentified
And a lot of times people are like, why could you guys talk about comedy too much?
joe rogan
Because you've got to understand that for us, it's like, it sounds so stupid, but it's almost like a sacred topic.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but also there's things you can get from it, too, if you're listening.
Like, the way Greg Jackson talks about it, he always asks me questions about stand-up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
He's always like, so what do you do when you're not doing well?
What do you do when you are doing well?
joe rogan
Well, he's into mental games.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but he sees the similarities between what he's trying to train and what we're doing in all the arts.
joe rogan
Well, there's a similarity in truth.
And if you don't hit the right notes in comedy, it's clunky and awkward.
ari shaffir
One of the right steps on this.
joe rogan
Yeah, we all know that there's a bit that you've done, everybody's got a bit, that if you heard it today, you would cringe.
Because you know it's clunky.
ari shaffir
You got into it bad.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That used to be an approach that I would use with martial arts techniques.
I had some bad approaches that I had when I was a blue belt or a green belt that I would use in a tournament that I would never use as a black belt.
They're terrible approaches.
ari shaffir
They might work, but they're full of mistakes.
joe rogan
They're open.
You just attack.
You go wide open.
You can't do that.
You have to have feints and you have to have movement.
You have to learn what will throw a guy off and what doesn't throw a guy off.
And there's moments when you look back on the beginning jokes and it's like...
unidentified
Just clunky, dog shit material.
ari shaffir
Anyone that's listening can relate to that in something they've done, where they were bad at something and now they're better.
unidentified
Hopefully.
joe rogan
Because if you're not, you're a bitch.
If you've lived your life and never got good at something, what the fuck are you?
Yeah, what have you done?
You're crazy.
You've missed out on what's...
Look...
It's hard to do shit.
It's difficult and it's scary.
But that's what friends are for.
Friends cushion all that shit.
One of the things that Randy Couture said, really kind of a cool thing that he said about fighting, he said that if you love your friends and love your family, they're going to love you if you win or lose.
You don't have to worry about that.
But that is something that people think about.
You base your worth and your value on winning and it becomes too much of a big deal to you.
It becomes like everything.
It becomes your whole life.
ari shaffir
I heard this about kids recently.
That you shouldn't say good job when they get a good grade or something because that is unintentionally instilling in them that they are only successful in your eyes or good in their eyes when they're winning.
joe rogan
Do you want to create a team full of pussies or what?
What the fuck are you saying, Javier?
ari shaffir
I'm hearing the baby books.
joe rogan
I think those baby books are written by cunts.
ari shaffir
That's impossible.
Who knows?
joe rogan
Crazy fuckheads who don't know shit about raising...
I'm just talking shit.
ari shaffir
That's crazy, yeah.
joe rogan
I think people like to be reinforced.
I think positive reinforcement for jobs well done is important.
ari shaffir
But they said what you're supposed to do is job well tried.
If they're trying hard, that's what you're supposed to reward.
joe rogan
Nonsense.
Success.
That sounds like some socialist bullshit put into target by liberals designed to slow down the marathon.
Somebody doesn't want to see a sub-three-hour marathon.
Whatever.
Mile.
What's the...
I was trying to...
ari shaffir
Four-minute mile.
joe rogan
Four-minute mile and a three-hour marathon.
ari shaffir
I think they all run it at three minutes.
joe rogan
That Paul Ryan character.
No, they don't all run.
ari shaffir
No, like the champions, I mean.
joe rogan
Yeah, the champions.
ari shaffir
Like 220, 230.
joe rogan
That's why that Paul Ryan dude tried to sneak in that he ran a sub-three-hour marathon, and they called him on it.
ari shaffir
He didn't?
joe rogan
Oh, no.
ari shaffir
It was like 358.
joe rogan
It was more than four hours.
It was documented.
Why do the people lie?
ari shaffir
All of them are so...
Are you going to vote this year?
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
You're not going to?
joe rogan
I'm thinking of not voting.
ari shaffir
You've said in the past you think it's all ridiculous.
If you really believe that, then there's no reason to waste your day.
Spend another day with your kids.
joe rogan
I think with the electoral college system that's in place, and anybody that's telling me that Obama is better than Mitt Romney, then Mitt Romney is the goddamn Holocaust.
If that's what you're telling me, if you're telling me that Mitt Romney is going to be worse than Obama, when you think about all the shit that's happened in this country to civil liberties over the last couple of years, whether people are aware of it or not, it's almost like this country is tightening up and getting ready for civil war.
They're getting scared that there's going to be civil unrest.
So they're putting all these things into place where they can spy on you and all these things in place that are fucking completely un-American and completely unconstitutional.
And then they went and re-read the Constitution, rewrote the Constitution.
They took out things like posse comatitis, I believe it is, the ability to use the military to stop civil unrest.
Oh, really?
The American military.
The police?
Yes.
The American military can now be used to stop civil unrest.
They can now arrest you for shit and they don't have to bring you to trial and they can hold you as long as they want.
You have no recourse.
And this is all for American citizens.
ari shaffir
That's the stuff we set up.
Because someone's going to abuse that power.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ari shaffir
No matter who it is.
joe rogan
And they say they will never use it.
And Obama's like, we'll never use this.
ari shaffir
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
It's written down now.
ari shaffir
How about someone that's being born right now who grows up in 40 years to become the president?
You're saying he'll never use it?
joe rogan
There's a reason why we had all this shit set up a long time ago to make sure that you didn't involve church and state.
ari shaffir
I think we've got to rewrite the Constitution.
joe rogan
Of course we do.
ari shaffir
We've got to rewrite a brand new one.
Of course we do.
Because that stuff that happened 200 years ago has nothing to do with us.
joe rogan
You can't have a Constitution that was written before the internet.
That's nonsense.
Before electricity?
Yeah.
Well, you know, look, they knew the concepts of classic societies.
They knew the concepts of what was going to cause people to fall apart, what's going to cause people to give in to their id, what's going to cause people to be corrupt and to go wrong.
And so they prevented all that shit.
They prevented freedom of speech.
You've got to be able to say whatever the fuck you want to say.
You can't stop people from talking.
You've got to let people express themselves.
You've got to allow people to protest.
You have to allow people to organize.
You've got to let them be armed.
There's all these things they set in place because they knew.
ari shaffir
Because they know, if you have all the arms, we have none, you're going to abuse that.
joe rogan
And that's something that liberal people don't want to accept.
The problem in this world is the gun problem.
No, the problem in this world is just crazy people.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's the thing.
You have to allow for that.
There will be people.
You might not, but some people will, and so then you have to defend yourself.
joe rogan
Well, we have to, if that's another sickness.
ari shaffir
You're not going to have a lock in your door?
joe rogan
It's a sickness in society that we have to address.
Why are we creating sick people?
Why are we creating crazy people?
Why are we creating violent people?
And that can be resolved.
With time and education and some form of action, some form of social engineering, I believe that you're going to be able to at least cut significantly down on the amount of cunts and douchebags that are developed by civilization.
I think if we went from being barbarians to people that live in...
ari shaffir
We live way more civilized now.
joe rogan
Way more civilized now.
It's not close.
Right.
It's not even close.
So if you just extrapolate 100 years into the future, you would assume that things would continue to get easier and easier and easier.
I've got to think that eventually we can...
But, you know, we're never going to be able to engineer out greed.
We're never going to be able to engineer out, if someone has complete and total control over an entire city, they will do something terrible.
ari shaffir
That's human nature.
I just say that.
Hold on to their power.
It's like, hold on, why would you say you would never do that when so many people have done it?
You should say, I'm glad I don't have that power because I probably would abuse it.
joe rogan
Right, because if you look at what we've done as a human race, just in military means, or by military means, over the last decade, how much different is it really than what happened during the days of the barbarian hordes?
The numbers are probably more significant.
It seems more civilized on the surface, but they're more effective at killing people.
They can kill massive numbers of people.
A bunch of people just died the other day, I think it was in Yemen, where they shot a bunch of civilians with one of those fucking drones.
And they just killed 14 people, 14 civilians.
I mean, women and children, they're getting jacked constantly by these things.
There's thousands of people who've been killed by these drones.
Wow.
ari shaffir
So they want to outlaw that because that just allows for error too easily and no one has to feel it?
joe rogan
Well, there's no significant voice to outlaw these things right now.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
I've heard people say those.
That's one of the things I've heard about.
joe rogan
Yeah, not in this country, man.
You don't hear Mitt Romney saying it.
We're going to stop the drones.
We're going to stop those drone attacks.
ari shaffir
No, no, no.
Picketer people will say it.
joe rogan
Those people don't have a say.
ari shaffir
We don't have any say.
joe rogan
Silly picketer people.
ari shaffir
P. Carboni's joke, I'll just say.
joe rogan
They're going to arrest those people.
ari shaffir
He said, do you think President Bush, this is how long it was, he goes, do you think President Bush cares about us protesting the war?
He goes, I think he thinks about the protesters the way we feel about the WNBA. Like, sure, it's annoying, but let them feel like they're making a difference.
joe rogan
Oh my god, I can't believe you went down.
ari shaffir
What was P. Carboni?
Retired from comedy.
joe rogan
Why did he retire?
ari shaffir
It wasn't making him happy after a while.
He just wasn't making money at it.
And he was like, I gotta do something.
He didn't want to struggle for fucking 145 spots at the store.
joe rogan
A lot of guys get close.
That grind is hard, man.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
The fucking, the grind when you're, especially a grind in LA. Yeah.
When you're like one of those up and coming comics, you don't even have like road gigs you can pick up for 50 bucks here and there.
ari shaffir
You just want time.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
You want to perform for free for someone.
unidentified
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I view it as, you know how when they're running and there's an explosion behind you or a tidal wave coming at you, or like the bridge is falling behind you, and people behind you are falling in, but you manage to make it off before it completely collapses?
That's how I view a stand-up comedy, where there's some funny people that just didn't get living enough to get them going and they fell off the bridge.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like anything else.
We all sucked at it at the beginning.
The reason why you can equate stand-up comedy to martial arts is because it's two things that you have to look at really realistically in order to get better at them.
You've got to figure out how to fucking make your way through the maze.
ari shaffir
And if you get somebody pregnant early, it's going to be a lot harder.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it is.
ari shaffir
You know, you might have quit.
I almost definitely would have quit.
If I got somebody pregnant at 26, a year in...
joe rogan
Well, you think you would take some time off, for sure.
ari shaffir
Who comes back after time off?
joe rogan
Who knows, man?
Dana Gould did.
ari shaffir
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, Dana Gould took a long time off.
He was writing for The Simpsons.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but did he...
joe rogan
I think he was raising kids too.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I might have made that up.
Imagine if he's gay.
I'm just making sure.
ari shaffir
He's got a family.
He's got a dog.
joe rogan
I think he's raising dogs.
ari shaffir
I think he does have a family.
He did my Storyteller show once.
joe rogan
He was really cool.
He was one of those guys that was around in Boston.
He was ahead of me.
He was like a couple of years ahead of me.
ari shaffir
I don't think he's come back.
joe rogan
He was already a professional.
No?
ari shaffir
He comes back.
Like Mary Lynn comes back.
But once they give it up, you're never back in it.
joe rogan
They're not the same to you.
ari shaffir
No, it's just like your heart's not in it.
Your performance isn't as good.
You can't do it once in a month.
joe rogan
The people like us that are real hardcore stand-up fanatics, we despise people that quit.
You quitting, pussy.
ari shaffir
We try to be like, oh no, that's cool.
I'm glad you're happy.
joe rogan
You happy now?
ari shaffir
You know we're looking at you like...
joe rogan
You're a pussy.
You're giving up the greatest drug in the world.
It's just you can't take the ride.
The ride is just too bumpy.
ari shaffir
Not even you pussy, but just like, oh, you're not one of us anymore.
joe rogan
Yeah, how could you not be one of us?
ari shaffir
So long.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've got to be careful when I'm around guys like Stand Hope.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
Because I want to start doing mushrooms in front of them.
ari shaffir
You want to start doing mushrooms in front of them?
joe rogan
Yeah, you're around a guy like that.
You'll do mushrooms and drive home.
unidentified
And drive home.
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's a problem.
That's a problem.
I haven't had the training he has.
joe rogan
Yeah, one of our friends, which will go, let's say his name rhymes with Smetty Huavo, was on Crazy Mushroom Dose and he was driving home and the road in front of him turned into flower petals.
Oh my god, it's like as he was driving, it's just flowers were flying off of his wheels and flowers were in front of him.
Yeah, could you imagine?
ari shaffir
I did it once.
It wasn't that bad.
But just once where I was driving.
I thought I was done because I was doing it in someone's apartment.
And I was like, alright, I'm good.
I'm going to go home.
It's been five hours.
And then I'm driving.
I was looking at a sign.
But it's like that picture behind you.
It has a lot of colors.
And it just started swimming when I was at a light.
Like everything started.
And I was like, aw, fuck.
I feel like mushrooms is too dangerous to drive on.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck yeah, it's too dangerous.
ari shaffir
We don't do it, but mushrooms is...
joe rogan
Yeah, mushrooms are real...
It dissipates reality.
It gets reality to a place where you're like, I don't know if you can manage this.
You might be experiencing something that's absolutely not there at all.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could just drive over a fucking cliff, think you're on a water ride, you know?
ari shaffir
Yeah, that's what I mean.
You never quite lose reality, but you sort of get close.
Like, you don't lose where you are 100%.
I'm going to Cap City, by the way.
joe rogan
When are you working there?
ari shaffir
Two weeks.
The 14th, I think.
September 14th.
Let me see.
joe rogan
Nice.
ari shaffir
September 14th.
joe rogan
That place is the shit.
What days are you there?
The Friday, Saturday?
12th through the 15th.
ari shaffir
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
joe rogan
Son!
ari shaffir
Four days, yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, four days?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
The 12th through the 15th?
Holy shit.
Dude, you're a legit comic now.
unidentified
You are.
joe rogan
You're a legit headliner.
ari shaffir
I feel like I'm in places now.
joe rogan
You're a legit headliner.
ari shaffir
It's pretty fucking cool, man.
joe rogan
You're headlining the Cap City Comedy Club in Austin, Texas.
That's legit as it gets, man.
As a stand-up comedian, that and the comedy works in Denver.
If you want to talk about the independent clubs that are super legit, Cap City is super legit.
You there, you're a real comic.
ari shaffir
There's five rooms that I've put on my favorite five rooms for a long time.
The OR, the Comedy Store, Cap City, Denver Comedy Works, DC Improv, just because it was my first road room.
joe rogan
Well, as far as the vibe, Austin might have the best vibe in the history of the universe.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it's so cool.
That's where we filmed that, what do we call it?
My butthole video?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, when you had a problem.
ari shaffir
What do we call it?
The Jew Clam, the Jew Clam video.
joe rogan
Your booty hole.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Problem.
Yeah, it's just awesome.
unidentified
They're cool.
ari shaffir
They're one of the cities that gets it.
They're smart enough to get it, but cool enough to be laid back about it.
joe rogan
Somebody fucked up in that club and painted over all the writing in the green room.
Some asshole decided there was too much writing on the wall.
You had like 30 years of history.
unidentified
Who did that?
ari shaffir
It was fun to look at, even if you don't know anybody.
joe rogan
Some dummy.
There was people that were dead that wrote on that wall.
A lot of them, including Hedberg.
ari shaffir
Who painted over it?
joe rogan
Some silly bitch.
How dare you, you fuckheads.
That was historic.
It's not as historic as the Atlanta Punchline.
Because the Atlanta Punchline has that one thing that says, Quit trying to be Hicks.
ari shaffir
You know if you write something on the wall, someone's going to write something shitty after it.
joe rogan
So many dudes try to be Hicks.
Hicks, as far as influencing comedians, Hicks influenced comedians the wrong way more than anybody.
ari shaffir
Kaufman.
Kaufman was pretty bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they didn't go on stage and self-righteously preach to the crowd.
ari shaffir
They didn't do that.
They didn't think they were better than you because they were trying something experimental.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, not only that.
There's some shit they just wrote in Popular Science Magazine five minutes ago and they're yelling at the crowd that they don't know it.
unidentified
Because you're at home watching fucking Roseanne, you know, sitting in the couch.
ari shaffir
And then they always do this.
They always say this.
Not a lot of times.
They'll be like, oh, too edgy for you?
And you're like, no, idiot.
No one laughed because it wasn't funny.
joe rogan
Just sucks, stupid.
ari shaffir
Too edgy for you.
joe rogan
You fucking dubby.
ari shaffir
Drop it and Bob on stage eight times in a row on purpose just for the sake of it.
joe rogan
Just get fucked.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's just as fake as fake clean comedy.
ari shaffir
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
I have no thoughts of that.
And part of it is sometimes people don't look at themselves that objectively, so they don't know what they're putting out there is so stupidly, offensively, dumb.
They don't know.
They don't even know.
They're just clunking it.
Clonk!
It's hard when you watch someone go on stage.
I worked in Vegas with this guy once.
He was supposed to do like 20 minutes.
He did 45. 45 minutes, and it was some of the worst fucking comedy I have ever seen in my life.
It was so bad that by the time I got on stage, I was like, there's nothing funny.
Nothing is funny.
ari shaffir
You couldn't even believe in funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's like when we hang out together, like we do gigs at the Ice House especially, like if we're all shooting the shit.
ari shaffir
I get like that sometimes I'm in a bored mood, yeah, but when we're doing that, we're in a good mood.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're shooting the shit and then we go on stage.
ari shaffir
And you're like, so many things are funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's some of the best shows ever.
ari shaffir
There's funniness everywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you're working with someone who sucks it...
It's like if you're at a job with someone who's a douchebag.
There's a difference between being at a job with someone who's fun.
Like if you had to work with Joey Diaz all day, you'd be laughing.
I mean, once a month he'd yell at you.
But you gotta deal with that.
ari shaffir
Mostly great.
joe rogan
He'll yell at me over fucking nonsense.
The one day that he came in, he was fucking screaming about ranch dressing.
unidentified
Fucking ranch dressing!
ari shaffir
Somebody gave him ranch dressing.
joe rogan
Well, he made a t-shirt about it.
He sold like a thousand fucking t-shirts.
It's blue cheese with wings or go fuck your mother was his famous line.
unidentified
He just gets so mad about blue cheese.
ari shaffir
Blue cheese, please.
joe rogan
That kind of guy.
To be able to hang out with people like that.
There's a lot of people that would never understand a guy like that.
But for a guy like us, another stand-up comic is like a buoy in the ocean.
You're gravitated towards him to save you.
ari shaffir
I mentioned him on ONA. I mentioned Diaz because I was like, Diaz told me this thing once.
And they're like, oh yeah, Joey Diaz.
We haven't seen him in forever.
They're like, he's so good at telling stories.
And I'm like, yeah, he sure fucking is.
He sure is.
joe rogan
He's an unusual human.
It's so important to find those fucking people.
It's so hard.
It's one thing that I've developed a skill for.
I know how to wrangle people together.
I know how to wrangle a bunch of cool people together.
It's hard.
It's hard to find cool, interesting people.
It's hard to accumulate.
You've got to cut all the cunts out.
You've got to cut them all out.
It's like pruning a tree.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
The problem is it's hard when the cunts are somehow related to the cool people.
And you're like, oh, that's your best friend?
A brother or a best friend.
And you're like, oh, so he comes with you?
But I don't want him.
I just want you.
joe rogan
And he's like snipey.
He says snipey shit.
ari shaffir
Girlfriend, shitty parents, something like that.
And he's like, I don't want to hang with him at all.
You don't have to do the actual words.
joe rogan
There's a balance to this world, man.
People don't realize it.
Those cunty people.
Their cuntiness is directly proportionate to how happy they are.
ari shaffir
I just walk away from them now.
I treat them as wild animals.
If there was a barking dog, I would cross the street before going in front of that yard.
I'm not going to get through to you.
joe rogan
What the fuck is this?
ari shaffir
Do you have any interest?
I bought a ticket for you of Louis C.K. doing new stuff tonight at the Comedy Store Main Room.
joe rogan
Ooh, I might be into doing that.
I gotta see.
I gotta see.
We'll get off the podcast.
ari shaffir
Okay.
It's at midnight.
unidentified
At midnight?
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
That's pretty late.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why is he doing a show at midnight?
Is he doing an early show, too?
ari shaffir
Nope, just a late show.
Doors open at 11. I think there was already a show in there, and he goes, I don't want to sell it out late, so fuck it.
It's also new jokes.
joe rogan
It's so cool that he's doing that, man.
ari shaffir
And he said, you can only buy tickets live and with cash so that nobody counterfeits anything.
joe rogan
Whoa.
ari shaffir
So the door guys have to stay there and sell tickets in the cover book.
joe rogan
So that nobody counterfeits anything?
ari shaffir
He's had to deal with, not counterfeiting, scalping.
joe rogan
Oh.
ari shaffir
Yeah, he's had to deal with that a lot, I guess.
So he's trying to overcome that with the tickets.
joe rogan
So you have to actually wait in line to buy the tickets?
ari shaffir
No, just walk up to the booth, get them.
joe rogan
Oh, but that means there's going to be a line, though.
ari shaffir
That's annoying.
joe rogan
You can't use your credit card?
ari shaffir
They put it online, and it was no more than a three-person line.
They were just whipping people through.
unidentified
Really?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
And there's an ATM right on the corner, right next to the main room.
There's an ATM there.
joe rogan
See, why aren't they just paying gold?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
It's so weird.
It's like, do I have the cash on me?
joe rogan
I guess I do.
That sounds like he's going to get robbed.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
What if someone's a gangster and they're in that neighborhood, they know there's a lot of cash now, son.
You gave up the goods.
Notice that gangster has become a black guy, or it used to be like a...
ari shaffir
Italian.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
Gangster.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
They took it.
joe rogan
They did.
ari shaffir
Another thing they've stolen.
Besides our wallets.
joe rogan
Whoa, Ari.
That was like...
ari shaffir
Sounded too harsh.
joe rogan
That was you were acting.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
Besides our wallets.
joe rogan
Insulting me.
ari shaffir
I did this guy once, when I didn't know the line, we're talking about rookie mistakes and stuff, I didn't know the line of how you can be mean but say it in a smile.
I learned a lot from watching Don Barris, when he'd call these grandmothers filthy whores, but he'd do it with such a smile.
I don't know how we quite, he exudes this like, I'm clearly joking.
And these old ladies would love it.
They'd be howling in front of their granddaughter.
It was just great.
I could always see him do it.
joe rogan
Barris knows how to do it.
Well, he's an experienced performer.
ari shaffir
And I would do it sometimes with black people.
I'd be like, what's up, black people?
But say in a friendly enough way that it was so cool.
I remember this one door guy one time saw this black lady in the front row and goes, what's up, you black bitch?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
ari shaffir
It queered the room for the entire night.
For the next five hours, everybody was having weird sets.
joe rogan
Wow.
Yeah, that can happen, man.
Well, people can be a little off because of something fucked up, someone says.
ari shaffir
Yeah, so some guy came in one time with his girlfriend.
I was on stage at the store in the middle of the showroom.
It's fine to come in there.
And I was like, hey, what's up?
How are you?
Nice to see you with your whore.
And I was like, ugh.
And the guy's like, what the fuck's your problem?
And I had to like, damn it, now I'm stuck in this thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're just trying to come up with something funny to say.
ari shaffir
You didn't mean to say it.
It sounded wrong.
joe rogan
Sometimes they come out and you're like, nope, that wasn't it.
ari shaffir
That didn't sound, yeah.
joe rogan
Especially when you do like what you and I do.
It's like you go on stage, there's a lot of fucking around.
There's a lot of ad-libbing.
And that's how you come up with new material.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, to get like the bridges between subjects.
Like sometimes they're different every night.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and in doing so.
ari shaffir
So it keeps it loose and sounding natural and conversational.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, and sometimes in doing so, you also create these weird improvisational paths where you go on some completely new angle and you're like, oh my god, this is the new part to the bit.
This is important.
So it's important to me to be able to fuck around.
But sometimes, especially if you have a new subject, you're not exactly sure where you're going with it, you just take a stupid chance and you're like, oh no!
ari shaffir
It's been like two minutes on a dark path and you're like, oh, there's a wolf around here that's going to eat me.
A wolf of boredom on the crowd.
joe rogan
You just get fucking stuck there.
unidentified
Shit!
joe rogan
Stuck in a shit topic.
You ever start a topic and then you're in the middle of it and you want to bail?
You're like, no, no.
And you go, God, do I get out of this?
ari shaffir
I told somebody that at the Laugh Factory the other day at doing one of their employee shows.
I started down a path and I was like, you know what, guys?
I don't want to do that.
I had this whole thing about this, but I'm going to talk about something else.
That's cool.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's funny.
ari shaffir
I was already getting laughs.
I was already doing fine, but I was just like, nah.
joe rogan
That's funny.
Yeah, I guess it all depends on your level of enthusiasm.
ari shaffir
Plus, I got 12 minutes there, and this is a seven-minute bit.
So it's like, do I want to commit this percentage of this time to this?
joe rogan
What made you decide to bail on it?
ari shaffir
I wanted to work on something else.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
ari shaffir
And that was like, I could just do this right now, but it'd be just me just doing it.
joe rogan
Right, right, right, right.
ari shaffir
And I need to work on this other thing.
You know, it's fresher, and that's my plan.
I need to develop things, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
Yeah, that's the way to go, man.
Do you spend a lot of time actually writing?
ari shaffir
Not actually writing.
I'll write over notes, little notes.
joe rogan
Get in front of your computer and get high and just start writing.
And it just takes a while.
And don't try to write jokes.
Just try to write.
Just write.
Sometimes I write as stand-up and sometimes I write as if someone was reading a book.
ari shaffir
Free conscience?
joe rogan
Yeah.
But there's things that come out in most writing.
ari shaffir
That's what David Wayne said.
Just start writing.
Just start writing and then we'll see what happens.
joe rogan
Because there's things that come out when you're doing that.
ari shaffir
Because it makes you put yourself in a place, right?
joe rogan
It comes out everywhere.
Comedy will come out when you're driving your car.
You'll have an idea and you'll have to write it down.
But when you actually force yourself to sit down and think about things, it's not always that it works.
ari shaffir
But you actually put the time in.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got a new bit right now, man, that I am so fucking happy with.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's destroying.
And it's something that I wrote.
I wrote on a plane.
And it came to me, it's one of the rare moments where it came to me with almost too much stuff.
There's too many punchlines.
It's just too killer.
There's just too much.
It's this subject that I'm really pissed off about.
And so it's like a ten minute subject.
And I just have to keep remembering it.
unidentified
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
It's brand new.
But it's like, and there's this one!
Boom!
And then this one!
Bang!
It's like I've got this new, which to me is even more fun than a bit.
ari shaffir
Because you're excited about it.
That's why they kill the most.
Because I really feel great about it.
There's no acting in me at all.
It's all pure emotion.
joe rogan
It's pure emotion.
And it's right.
It's on something.
Something that's got something to it.
ari shaffir
something Bill Burr told him about writing new material.
And he was like, how do you write that long?
And he broke it down to like five minutes a month, which always embarrasses everybody.
But then he was like, where do you come up with stuff?
He goes, I don't know.
What do you care about?
And you're like, yeah, that's it.
Just what do you care about?
That's all it is.
What's on your mind?
What's going on?
You get traffic?
What do you care about lately?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
The fucking line at this place, or bad foods you're supposed to eat, or not supposed to eat, or just whatever.
joe rogan
Right, and you've got to be paying enough attention to actually care about something.
Yeah, and that's what's interesting.
What's interesting is always where...
ari shaffir
But it could just be about the way your sheets bunch up on you.
If that's what really makes you angry, or happy, or whatever, then that's what you care about.
That's okay.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Yeah, you have to be really interesting.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you have to be really into that.
joe rogan
I'd way rather hear about comedy.
ari shaffir
But like Jim Gaffigan can make bacon funny.
joe rogan
That's true.
ari shaffir
For like a while.
joe rogan
Jim Gaffigan can make sheets funny too.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, for him, it's just not for me or for you.
ari shaffir
Right.
joe rogan
It wouldn't work.
But yeah.
Yeah, it's what defines you, makes you interesting or not.
It's like, what kind of things are interesting to you?
ari shaffir
These are the things that are on my mind.
joe rogan
That's what I'm talking about, son.
Stand-up comedy.
Ari Shafir, Cap City Comedy Club, this September what?
What are the days?
ari shaffir
It's the 12th through the 15th.
joe rogan
Keep it together, motherfuckers.
ari shaffir
Man.
joe rogan
It's a dark road out there, ladies and gentlemen.
But we're all on it.
It's not even dark.
It's actually pretty awesome.
If you lived in the 1500s.
ari shaffir
Indianapolis, Corpus Christi, Dallas.
joe rogan
And somebody could transport you to today.
unidentified
Portland.
joe rogan
You'd think you're living in a fucking dream.
ari shaffir
Oh yeah, it'd be totally different.
joe rogan
High-dice, bitches.
Medicine.
How about just penicillin?
How about when you have sex with a dirty prostitute, you don't die?
Wouldn't that be sweet?
Wouldn't that be sweet if you just didn't die?
ari shaffir
Yeah, one day you'll catch gonorrhea and instead of having to jab that thing in you...
joe rogan
Just go get gum.
Get gonorrhea gum.
ari shaffir
They rave the wand over you like Star Trek?
joe rogan
It'll be an app on your cell phone.
You stick your cell phone near your dick and it'll cure it.
It'll zap it.
It's ridiculous.
We live in the best fucking time ever and everyone's depressed.
Why?
Because look at our future.
This fucking Mitt Romney guy.
He's going to win too.
White people are angry.
ari shaffir
You think Mitt Romney's going to win?
joe rogan
That's how the play's supposed to play out.
ari shaffir
You think so?
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
Corporations win.
No matter who's in place.
That's the only reason why going is ridiculous.
Corporations win.
Corporations are winning.
What really matters, man, is state and local elections.
ari shaffir
And your friends.
And people you care about.
joe rogan
And what you do for a living, you dirty, dirty bitches.
ari shaffir
Enjoy yourselves.
Because you're not going to make a big difference in the fucking legal system.
joe rogan
Well, even if you do, you're still just a person.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you're just one dude.
And you'll be dead and gone forever.
So enjoy it while you're here.
joe rogan
The only way we can make a difference is...
Talking about shit and having a new generation of people who don't grow up to become the cunts that the people that are running this country are.
That's the only way.
It's the only way.
So by this conversation, by this podcast alone, you can influence the youth, R Shafir, and set them in a good direction.
ari shaffir
I should also influence you on Yom Kippur.
Please get my album, Revenge for the Holocaust.
joe rogan
What a perfect time to launch a comedy album with you as a spider with a star of David.
ari shaffir
Juice fighter, fighting Hitler.
joe rogan
Killing Hitler.
And that's going to be available on iTunes and AriTheGreat.com.
Is that still your website or AriTheGreat.com?
ari shaffir
They're both there, same site.
joe rogan
You go to the same thing?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
I like AriTheGreat, though.
It's a cool thing to write.
ari shaffir
But yeah, I'm sending you four MP3s.
unidentified
Me?
ari shaffir
Anybody who goes on my website and wants them.
joe rogan
Well, go to Ari Safir's website, AriTheGreat.com, and get yourself some fucking mp3s and some solid goddamn stand-up comedy for one of the best in the country.
unidentified
I've seen them develop from a goddamn comedy face to a real professional.
ari shaffir
Do you feel fatherly like that at all?
unidentified
No, no.
joe rogan
I'm happy as a friend, though.
I think it's awesome as fuck.
ari shaffir
I asked my rabbis about this.
When you come to Israel and then people start to get more religious, do you feel like you've accomplished something?
And he's like, yeah, you do.
He's like, you helped build something.
joe rogan
Well, I definitely am happy when I'm around comedians and I give them advice and they get better.
But not everybody listens.
You listen better than anybody that ever took on the road with me.
If I would tell you, I'm like, you got too many words in that, man.
You're right.
Fuck.
And you would just go sharpened up and think about it and redo things.
You know, people have told me things that I didn't want to hear, and some of them I fought, and some of them I listened to, and some of them were uncomfortable.
But ultimately, people, especially in the beginning, can point things out to you.
It's up to you whether or not you can see them and listen and accept it.
ari shaffir
Somebody told me that.
I was looking down the whole time.
Mark Madison told me that.
joe rogan
I used to do that too.
ari shaffir
Look up.
You're talking to the crowd.
I was like, oh yeah.
It helps.
Just little things.
I'm like, maybe you're right.
Instead of, fuck you.
You don't know what they're talking about.
joe rogan
I looked down way too much.
For a long time.
I did it for years.
ari shaffir
Just think, what if it's not good or bad that you do that?
That you were wrong in the past?
What if it's just you can improve?
Just do it like that.
joe rogan
But you were really good at listening.
You were really good at changing, too.
Taking chances.
That's why you're still producing constant new material.
If there's anything that always bugs us about someone that we know, it's a guy who's got the same jokes for 10 years.
It's sad.
It's like, man, you don't have anything new to say?
You've got to have some new shit, man.
You've got to have some new shit.
ari shaffir
Dice, that's the reason I shaved my beard.
Because Dice was the last straw.
He was like, shave your beard.
I was like, for your act.
And I was like, whoa.
And then I was like, instead of like, you're a doofus dice, like he always is, I was like, if Andrew Dice Clay, the legend of Andrew Dice Clay is telling me that it's good for my act, I'm like, hey, why?
And he goes, you're expressive and people can't see your expressions.
And I was like, it's gone.
It's gone.
I don't want to stop that.
joe rogan
But you look like a crazy dirtbag with a crazy beard, and I think that might be worth more.
ari shaffir
That might be nice also.
joe rogan
That might be worth more.
ari shaffir
You can see my expressions.
The whole beard moves.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't think Dice gets that bearded, dirtbag look.
joe rogan
You definitely look younger.
Isn't it weird?
You look younger.
Everybody always says that when you shave your beard, you look younger, but you really do.
For whatever reason, it's more innocent.
Oh, babies are crying.
Shit's going on.
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow we will join Freeway Ricky Ross, the real Rick Ross.
He's joining us again on the podcast.
That's the fake Rick Ross.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you got the real one.
joe rogan
We got the real one.
The guy who this guy pretends to be.
The guy who went to jail for selling cocaine.
The guy whose cocaine sales funded the Conchas versus the Sandinistas in Nicaragua.
ari shaffir
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the whole Ollie North thing.
They were funneling, they were selling drugs.
ari shaffir
To raise money for it?
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
ari shaffir
Like having a bake sale?
joe rogan
Exactly.
ari shaffir
But with Coke?
joe rogan
With Coke.
So they would get the Coke.
ari shaffir
Bravo, America!
Way to think outside the box.
joe rogan
They would get the coke to the poor communities.
ari shaffir
Wow!
And everybody wins!
joe rogan
Everybody wins!
Oh!
ari shaffir
Then we all go dancing.
joe rogan
So this guy got out of jail and there's a rapper that's got his name.
I mean, his name is Rick Ross.
Freeway Rick Ross.
He was known as being this huge...
I mean, I remember...
ari shaffir
You can ask me if he killed anybody ever?
joe rogan
No.
ari shaffir
You're never going to.
joe rogan
Disrespectful.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
I wouldn't do that.
The guy has been in the, you know, he was in the drug trade for years, got all over the news.
I mean, it was like a big deal.
It's like one of those things like when rappers call themselves Capone, you know, like Matt Capone.
ari shaffir
Is he the one that was on Time Magazine with like drugs?
unidentified
I don't think so.
ari shaffir
Like holding him up?
That's when the government was like, go after that guy.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
I don't think that's the case.
He was trying to stay as low-key as possible, but he got busted.
But the story is just insane.
He's got a rapper.
He's out.
He's out and free, and there's a rapper out there.
ari shaffir
With his name.
joe rogan
Yeah, and so he's trying to sue the rapper.
ari shaffir
Not just the same name.
It's my personality you're taking.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, not only was it even crazier, the rapper used to be a corrections officer.
ari shaffir
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was a prison guard, which is really nutty.
ari shaffir
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, the whole thing is crazy.
ari shaffir
He's building his albums like the greatest thing of all time.
joe rogan
He's on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine.
Look around right there, right behind you.
Look at that Rolling Stone.
You see that Rolling Stone?
That's him, man.
I bought that Rolling Stone just for the real Rick Ross, because to talk about it...
ari shaffir
He's got tattoos of Abraham Lincoln from the Dollarville, from the Five, and George Washington from the One.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a new thing that black dudes are doing, is they're covering their whole bodies with tattoos.
ari shaffir
Tripoli says it, and I agree.
Black dudes look better in tats.
joe rogan
But this is a weird thing.
ari shaffir
It goes with the skin better.
joe rogan
The rapper thing where they cover everything, and they cover their face.
ari shaffir
Down at the back of his palm.
joe rogan
All tatted up.
ari shaffir
It's got a weed leaf on it.
joe rogan
But that didn't exist before.
Isn't that weird?
You go back to the Superfly days.
ari shaffir
It's because they have to keep outdoing each other.
unidentified
Hmm.
ari shaffir
I did a joke that never was able to work, but it's like every fucking grandmother has a tattoo now.
It's not a big deal.
So now what we're going to have to do is go to the next stage, which is what the ear things, you know, the ear things they push out?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
And so then that's going to become blasé, and then we're going to have to do the plates that the African people had in their necks.
We're going to see that in our lifetime, so we're going to have the plates.
joe rogan
Black dudes are like, especially famous dudes, are doing a lot of face tattoos.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of stars and shit.
ari shaffir
I like it.
It's like, fuck it.
I'm not going to have a regular job.
joe rogan
One dude got an ice cream cone on his face.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I remember that.
joe rogan
Who's that guy?
ari shaffir
Some rapper.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's not a white thing.
joe rogan
No.
Well, you could.
ari shaffir
You could.
joe rogan
There was a guy, a bodybuilder that I saw at the airport that had a whole face tattoo.
He had a Tyson thing.
One of those New Zealand Tyson tattoo things.
ari shaffir
Seguri did a great joke about it.
He was like, if you've got a face tattoo...
Because you want no interaction with any other human forever.
Something along those lines.
joe rogan
Something along those lines.
Yeah, it's obvious.
ari shaffir
You want to scare everyone you come in contact with.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, isn't it weird?
We have certain spots in our body that mean certain things.
If you start tattooing your face...
ari shaffir
We've all agreed.
No.
No.
joe rogan
You're getting nutty, son.
ari shaffir
But over here on the wrist, that's okay.
joe rogan
Oh, that's nothing.
ari shaffir
That's cute.
joe rogan
The ankle is cute.
It's sweet.
You know, the chain link around the bicep?
ari shaffir
Yeah, that one.
Chain link, you can't get in these ribs.
joe rogan
Yo, bro, that shit's solid steel, dog.
ari shaffir
Yeah, barbed wire.
unidentified
Solid steel, dog.
joe rogan
AriTheGreat.com, you dirty bitches.
Follow Ari on Twitter, Ari Shafir, with two Fs.
That's A-R-I-S-H-A-F-F-I-R, dude.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Good luck with the CD. Thanks.
ari shaffir
I got like 10 weeks on the road coming up.
Check my website for all of them.
joe rogan
When are you leaving?
When are you leaving for the road?
ari shaffir
I got a wedding this weekend, but the next one is the 12th or the 14th.
joe rogan
Are you gone weeks at a time?
Are you going to do that thing?
ari shaffir
I'm doing it once.
I'm doing Toronto and then straight to Indianapolis.
That's a 10-day run, but the rest of them are all back for a day or two.
joe rogan
See if you can come in right before Toronto.
Are you going to be here at all?
ari shaffir
Yeah, right before Toronto.
I got three days before that.
joe rogan
Let's do that.
Let's do another one.
Let's do another podcast because that's right before.
And by the way, I'll have my studio up and running by then.
ari shaffir
Okay.
joe rogan
At least the beginnings of it.
Any input you got on Twitter, anybody who knows anything about building a studio because I got a dope-ass office space now.
I'm ready to fucking...
ari shaffir
I want to see it.
joe rogan
Oh, it's going to be killer, dude.
unidentified
It's awesome.
ari shaffir
Maybe that's Tuesday after Punch Drunk.
joe rogan
I can't wait to have like a, it's going to be like a Ravenite social club sort of a thing.
ari shaffir
What do you mean?
The way you said it, like have loungy places and have beers and a fridge.
joe rogan
I'm going to have a pool table there, a couch, big screen TV. I'm going to have a real cool spot.
And then I'm going to have the studio, like where everybody sits down, as comfortable as possible.
I think we've figured it out now.
I think in doing the Ice House studio and doing this studio and doing Duncan's setup and doing my old setup, we know what you need.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
It's like the way they brought Todd Glass in to tell him how to build helium or different clubs.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ari shaffir
It's like, no, I know what's necessary.
Please trust me.
I've been through it.
joe rogan
Comfort.
Good sound.
And you can't have loungy chairs.
You've got to have office chairs.
ari shaffir
Yeah, too far back.
joe rogan
These are the kind of chairs.
And these microphones are real good, but the better ones are these other ones that I've got here.
ari shaffir
Shores.
joe rogan
Shores are less directional.
This has too much of a sweet spot.
And then there's another one that Don Imus uses.
This thing right here?
I'm going to try these next.
And these are the ones we have at the Ice House.
But I'm also going to try...
There's ones that I saw on the Don Imich show.
I forget the names of them.
But they are supposed to be the best for that kind of shit for radio.
And you don't have to put a windscreen over them.
And maybe you get a clearer sound.
Some people don't like the windscreen because it's like it gives you a little bit of a filtered sound.
Like Kevin Smith.
He takes the windscreen off when he came over here.
ari shaffir
And he doesn't get that other...
joe rogan
No, he knows how to do it.
He knows how to manage it, but he just feels like it's really him that way.
Otherwise, this is like a muted...
ari shaffir
I don't like the headphones sometimes.
joe rogan
Why is that?
ari shaffir
Well, one, they hurt my ears when I have my glasses on.
joe rogan
So do you hear a difference between this and this?
Is there a difference?
Yeah, there's a total difference.
unidentified
Yeah, there's a difference.
joe rogan
That sounds better, actually.
ari shaffir
Sounds clear.
joe rogan
God damn it, these fucking stupid condoms.
You know why I got these?
ari shaffir
Say Pete Piper, Pats of Piper, whatever.
Say something like that.
With a lot of P's or T's in it.
joe rogan
Peter Piper packed to pickled peppers.
ari shaffir
Yeah, it sounds better.
It's a little pop, but not much.
joe rogan
But it sounds like a real person, right?
ari shaffir
The mic you use on stage doesn't have windscreens.
joe rogan
Sometimes they do.
ari shaffir
But those aren't good.
joe rogan
Yeah, this sucks.
ari shaffir
Windscreens suck.
joe rogan
Maren told you to get something?
He probably told you to get the second best thing.
Probably held back whatever the first best thing was.
ari shaffir
Oh, no.
He was very, very nice about it.
I want no part of this.
He was very forthcoming.
I'm kidding.
joe rogan
Maren and I have friends now.
I saw him.
I gave him a hug.
ari shaffir
Me and Bert saw him last night at the UCB. Bert said it.
He goes, if Marc Maron is the nicest person there, something's wrong.
There's an attitude going on.
joe rogan
Yeah, everybody says that about the UCB. I don't go there.
ari shaffir
I don't know how much perceived.
joe rogan
I've been there before.
But I remember reading something somewhere where it was like a forum blog or something like that, or a forum post where someone said, why is Joe Rogan at the UCB? Oh yeah, we did that once.
That's so weird.
ari shaffir
Matt put it together and it was just like a good show.
joe rogan
That's not what I mean.
It's so weird that there's a type.
ari shaffir
When they know about this type goes here and that type goes there.
Dude, there's a lot of overlap.
Bordy Stevens is everywhere.
joe rogan
It's so silly.
It's just so silly.
You know?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, people were surprised.
ari shaffir
Ian Edwards really broke it down to me.
joe rogan
Yeah?
ari shaffir
I met him, I was opening for Pauly, doing that sketch movie.
joe rogan
That hurts, just hearing it.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
Take your condom off after service.
To feel dirty.
ari shaffir
That comics, Natural Born Comics, whatever that video was.
joe rogan
Take that thing off.
ari shaffir
Oh, I'll take the condom off.
Yeah.
Oh, that's better.
And you can see where you have to talk into, too.
But I saw him, and he did the Orlando Improv and the Miami Improv.
Mainstream clubs.
And he was very funny at those clubs.
And then I heard he was going to the UCB on their big alternative night.
And I was like, really?
You're performing there?
He goes, I do all the time.
I didn't know he'd come from New York.
He'd been there forever.
And I'm like, what kind of material did he do in front of those people?
And he stopped and he goes, dude, crowds is crowds.
joe rogan
It's true.
ari shaffir
They don't care.
And I was like, whoa.
joe rogan
For the most part.
But you know what?
A lot of people, they do get a little elitist if they get used to going to that kind of a place.
ari shaffir
Yeah, but there's also crowds don't know.
If they figure if you're there, you're supposed to be there.
And they'll be like, cool, we'll laugh.
They don't really give a shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know why anybody would restrict themselves to one type of comedy.
I've always been a fan.
I mean, I think anybody who knows this podcast knows that I'm a fan of some pretty crazy science and extraordinary ideas when it comes to quantum physics and the nature of the universe and nature of reality.
I like a lot of pretty heady, twisted up, deep shit about just the very nature of matter itself.
But I love stupid comedy.
It's It's fun.
ari shaffir
Yeah, sure.
joe rogan
It's fun.
ari shaffir
My first MC week for this guy, Brett Leak.
Do you remember him?
joe rogan
Brett Leak.
I remember the name.
ari shaffir
He had muscular dystrophy and then it got worse and worse.
He was a killer observational comic.
unidentified
Oh, really?
ari shaffir
Did Tonight Show probably 10, 15 times.
But he said it was him and then some lady who did relationship comedy in the middle and then me being filthy MCing.
And he goes, I like a different kind of show.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ari shaffir
It's a DC improv.
And he goes, I like three different people so nobody overlaps.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I agree, man.
I'm not into the same kind of comedy all the time.
I like a Mitch Hedberg.
He was like squeaky clean.
Hedberg?
Yeah, squeaky clean.
ari shaffir
Yeah, I guess he was, huh?
joe rogan
And then I like Joey Diaz.
ari shaffir
Was Hedberg really clean?
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess he was.
And I like Joey Diaz talking about pinching a foil out of some girl's asshole.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's bagging her in the ass and he felt foil at the tip of his dick.
So he reached in with his fingers, pulled it out, pulled it out of his desk and put his dick back in.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's just the craziest motherfucker of all time.
Every time I'm with him, I just have this big smile.
Like, I can't believe this guy's my friend.
ari shaffir
He gets you going.
Oh, this is what Bert said.
So he's meeting him for coffee?
joe rogan
Right.
ari shaffir
And he goes, other people come up.
And he goes, I think he just sits there all day long and has people come meet him.
And just throughout the day, he just sits like an old Italian guy.
Who was it that he met?
Bert Kreischer.
joe rogan
Met who?
ari shaffir
Joey Diaz.
joe rogan
Oh, where?
ari shaffir
In the valley somewhere, in NoHo.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
No, Joey can't sit still for very long.
He's got shit to do.
ari shaffir
Maybe.
joe rogan
He might have done it for a few hours.
ari shaffir
But he takes his phone calls, and he fucking, not texts.
He doesn't text, but he calls.
He wants you doing okay.
The one-minute phone calls he's a king of.
joe rogan
He's a legit businessman, though.
You've got to think about that now.
Joey's got real money.
He's doing great on the road.
Joey is killing them on the road.
ari shaffir
He convinced me to put that last Storyteller show online.
Just put two dollars, just throw it up.
joe rogan
It's beautiful.
ari shaffir
Why not?
joe rogan
It's beautiful.
Seeing him get to number one on iTunes was fucking incredible.
He sold like 35-40,000 copies of that CD just for himself.
Yeah.
And by the way, he's selling these testicle testaments.
He's selling these other things on iTunes, which are fucking fantastic.
ari shaffir
He does a new hour and a half to two hours of story on something every month.
joe rogan
And they're fucking tremendous.
And they're great if you're in your car and you're driving to work or something like that.
ari shaffir
Oh, God.
joe rogan
Slap one of those on.
You'll just have a big stupid smile on your face.
ari shaffir
It's half hilarious and half really deep shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's awesome.
Listen, we're lucky, man.
We're lucky we know a lot of comedians.
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
We are, for sure.
Where are you at this weekend?
ari shaffir
I'm at a wedding.
joe rogan
Oh, poor pastor.
unidentified
Cape Cod.
ari shaffir
I'm at the comedy store in the factory on Friday.
joe rogan
Cape Cod, Massachusetts?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Somebody made you go across the country for their stupid fucking voodoo ceremony?
ari shaffir
Yeah, I know the bride and the groom, but yeah, I felt bad about it.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus!
joe rogan
Are you going to bring breast strips?
ari shaffir
No, I'm going to bring marijuana.
joe rogan
A lot of marijuana?
Yeah.
ari shaffir
I told them, too.
I was like, you know I've got to be on drugs on there.
Absolutely.
joe rogan
They knew it?
ari shaffir
It's casual.
joe rogan
They knew you were going to be high?
ari shaffir
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're going to have an edible?
ari shaffir
Probably.
Not super strong.
I don't want to get bonkers.
joe rogan
You don't want to get social anxiety?
ari shaffir
But I don't want to fucking, yeah, have the social anxiety.
No, if I don't go on something, I'll have it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want to be high enough where it's cute.
ari shaffir
I can relax.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Be like, aw, this is sweet.
They're getting married.
ari shaffir
Maybe I'll cry when they say they're...
I'm a romantic.
Even though I'm believing that shit, I'm still like, something tugs at me when I see it.
unidentified
Once in your life, you'll find out.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, you are, man.
You're a sweetie.
I've seen you with chicks, too.
You're a very affectionate guy.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
A lot of people would think that Ari Shafir's got a cold heart.
ari shaffir
I'm not an old dick.
joe rogan
It's not.
unidentified
He's just been patted around a few times, and he's a little bruised on the outside, deep inside.
ari shaffir
Somebody asked me this recently.
They're like, who hurt you?
And I'm like, all of them!
Every one of them.
Is that what you want to hear?
They all made me who I am.
joe rogan
Okay, write that down and say that on stage.
That's very important.
You need to write that down.
ari shaffir
Somebody remind me.
joe rogan
That's a bit.
Yeah.
We'll get off this fucking podcast.
ari shaffir
I carry notebooks now.
joe rogan
Write that down.
Write that down.
All of them.
Who hurt you?
ari shaffir
All of them.
joe rogan
Are you happy?
All of them.
All right, you fucking dirty freaks.
Tomorrow, the real Rick Ross and Brian Redband will return as well.
ari shaffir
Revenge for the Holocaust, September 25th.
joe rogan
Buy that shit.
You know what to do, you freaks.
What is it?
How much is it?
ari shaffir
$7.99.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, ladies and gentlemen.
ari shaffir
On iTunes.
joe rogan
Go buy that shit.
And that's it.
The fucking show's over, you freaks.
Thanks, man.
Oh, thank you, man.
Always good time, man.
Thanks to Ting.com for opening us up.
ari shaffir
Ting.
joe rogan
Yeah, sorry, Ting.
We kind of fucked you.
ari shaffir
I will tell you this.
I'll help make it up.
I will give serious thought to Ting.
I'm done with my fucking Verizon contract now, and I was waiting for the new iPhone to come out, but if I can get one of those Samsungs before they go off the market, Yeah, get this before Apple fucks them.
joe rogan
Because they're going to.
This thing is the shit, man.
It's really huge.
I'm enjoying the size.
ari shaffir
But it's thinner than the iPhone.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's definitely thinner.
It's definitely thinner this way.
It's just wider.
I don't know anything about it, like battery life or anything yet.
ari shaffir
You just got it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm totally talking out of my ass.
Right now, I'm just like...
ari shaffir
I've done nothing.
joe rogan
Go take your piss, son.
I haven't done nothing where I could tell you that this is an awesome device.
But it looks dope as fuck.
Alright, folks.
So go to rogan.ting.com and when you go there and you sign up, you'll get a $50 credit towards a new device.
And...
Like I said, we're only supporting things on this show that we 100% believe in.
Whether it's going to deathsquad.tv and buying t-shirts to support Brian Redman and the podcast network.
Whether it's to go to ting.com and support them.
Ting is a company and we believe in their philosophy and we're behind it.
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I'm a part owner in Onnit because I love the philosophy behind the organization, and I love what the idea of selling things that I buy and things that I absolutely 100% enjoy and benefit from, like Alpha Brain and Shroom Tech and New Mood and Hemp Force Protein Powder, which is my favorite protein powder on Earth, and kettlebells and battle robes, which you know I do all day because I'm manly as fuck.
So go to Onnit.com.
That's O-N-N-I-T. And if you use the code name ROGAN, you will get 10% off any and all supplements.
And that's it.
So go to deskwad.tv.
Go buy yourself some fucking shirts.
Go to hireprimate.com if you want.
Hire-primate.com.
That's my t-shirt company.
And I have a bunch of different t-shirts, including a Joey Diaz.
If you're not high by 2 in the morning or 2 in the afternoon, go fuck yourself t-shirt.
That's available at Onnit.
We just restocked.
And that money, of course, goes to a big part of it, to the great one, Joe Diaz.
So your support, Joe Diaz.
ari shaffir
Can we get a Worst of the Whites t-shirt?
joe rogan
Worst of the whites?
Yeah, that's for you.
That should be.
Who would you say?
The Italians were the worst of the whites?
ari shaffir
No, no, no.
joe rogan
Persians?
ari shaffir
Armenians, Persians.
joe rogan
Armenians, the worst of the whites.
I don't think you want to make that in a t-shirt form.
ari shaffir
Armenians will fuck you up, man.
joe rogan
I love Armenians, man.
They will fuck you up.
ari shaffir
Those are wild people.
joe rogan
Yeah, you need a better saying.
Yeah, but for you, yeah, we definitely should put out an Ari Shaffir t-shirt.
What it should be if you could have an Ari Shaffir t-shirt.
You must have said something fucked up.
You know what?
People contact us on Twitter.
Tell us the most fucked up thing.
Because sometimes people put things like in message board posts, in quotes, or on Twitter, in quotes.
ari shaffir
And you're like, whoa.
joe rogan
What was the context of that?
ari shaffir
I write people.
What was the context?
What was that about?
joe rogan
We appreciate the fuck out of it.
I say this all the time, but I only say it because it's 100% true.
The thing that I'm most blown away by is the amount of fucking cool people that we meet at these shows.
It's amazing.
I don't understand it.
I don't know how it all happened, but I do know that we're truly, truly thankful.
ari shaffir
Yeah, you've got a lot of cool people.
joe rogan
I want to say humbled by it, but it is the word.
It's like, whoa.
Everywhere we go, everybody says the same thing.
These are the nicest crowds, the most generous crowds.
ari shaffir
They always tip well.
They drink well and tip well.
joe rogan
Look, we're happy as fuck that we're connecting with you guys like that.
And then every message that I get where people say, hey man, because of you, I started drinking kale shakes in the morning.
I lost 50 pounds.
I'm working out for the first time.
ari shaffir
Sometimes it's just overcoming the drive to not change.
joe rogan
Yes.
ari shaffir
And once you overcome it, you're like, oh, what was I resisting?
joe rogan
Yeah, what am I resisting?
And it's also having people in this conversation, they tune in and they're a part of it.
Even though they're not saying anything, they might be saying something in their car.
They're like, yeah, fucking that fucking bitch.
That guy's an asshole!
ari shaffir
There's a lot of people who live in a town of 2,000 and there's four cool people there.
And they tune into this and say, oh, fine, someone else is out there like this.
joe rogan
We recognize that this is an important part of your life.
This fucking show will always remain free.
This show will always remain completely uncensored.
If I tell you something, it's because I believe it, even if I'm wrong.
I believe that shit.
Go to the Lobero Theater this Saturday night, or this Friday night in Santa Barbara.
Duncan Trussell just added to the show.
We are so not fucking around.
That is the Lobero Theater in Santa Barbara.
Someone's calling me?
unidentified
Who the fuck?
joe rogan
Who the fuck is calling me?
Bob Fisher from the Ice House.
Powerful Ice House.
So that's it, folks.
We will see you tomorrow from the Ice House, ironically, with the real Rick Ross.
Onnit.com, use the codename Rogan.
ari shaffir
And by the way, you guys, the way you give back to us is by coming to our shows.
joe rogan
Yeah, listen, we love that.
ari shaffir
That's the biggest payback we can ever get.
joe rogan
And, by the way, quite honestly, that's a nice absolute benefit.
The biggest benefit for True is knowing that people are enjoying it.
When I run into people, even that don't come to my shows, if I run into them at the mall or something like that, and they're like, dude, I'm a huge podcast fan, that makes me feel fucking great.
If I'm doing something and you're enjoying it, I'm happy.
Yeah.
That's how I believe life should be.
Alright, you fucking freaks?
This show's over.
ari shaffir
Peace, love, and mushrooms.
joe rogan
Peace, love, mushrooms.
Go fuck yourself.
I don't even have any...
ari shaffir
We're bad at going out, right?
joe rogan
I don't even have any controversial...
I don't have any controversial sponsors anymore.
I just want to end these things.
ari shaffir
Invade Argentina.
joe rogan
Argentina's filled with nice people.
The fuck, man?
ari shaffir
I don't know.
I'm trying to say something.
joe rogan
Listen, you freaks.
We love you.
We love the shit out of you.
unidentified
Alright?
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