Aug. 28, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| Are we live, sweet Jesus? | ||
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Meow! | |
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast. | ||
| This is getting boring saying this way every time. | ||
| Listen, what I like most about this podcast is it has no professionalism to it whatsoever. | ||
| So when I have to say the same shit over and over again, I feel like I'm being a professional and I feel like I'm not doing myself a service. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| You know what the fuck it is. | ||
| We're sponsored. | ||
| How do we pay the bills? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How do I employ Brian? | ||
| We have to get money. | ||
| This is where we get it. | ||
| We get it from brain pills. | ||
| AlphaBrain. | ||
| What is AlphaBrain? | ||
| What is AlphaBrain? | ||
| It's a cognitive enhancing supplement. | ||
| It is a supplement that has a bunch of the very best nutrients to support neurochemistry. | ||
| And the idea is that your body essentially runs on nutrients. | ||
| It's what you need to have everything functioning optimally. | ||
| But you can adjust those levels and add things, and you can get benefits from it. | ||
| And alpha brain to me is, I am fucking, I'm lost without it. | ||
| If I don't have it, I really do kind of freak out. | ||
| I've had people say that it's a placebo effect, and I say you're fucking crazy because it gives me these most incredibly vivid dreams that I never used to have before. | ||
| And, you know, I think everybody's different. | ||
| I don't know how sensitive you are to your body, but I'm very sensitive. | ||
| I'm very sensitive to what's working, what's not working, how I feel when I take fish oil, how I feel when I don't take fish oil. | ||
| You're sensitive to my body too, Joe. | ||
| I am sensitive. | ||
| I'm trying to be sensitive to your soul, Brian. | ||
| Trying to be sensitive to you as an essence. | ||
| I just realized that we're sponsored by a pharmaceutical company. | ||
| Well, it's not a pharmaceutical company. | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| They're vitamins. | ||
| I know for your mind. | ||
| Vitamins for your don't. | ||
| Well, it is kind of crazy because we also sell kettlebells and battle ropes and putting in the comments. | ||
| It sounds like that, right? | ||
| Yeah, you're building a fucking army for some reason. | ||
| I'm just trying to strengthen up men, all right? | ||
| Strengthen your mind and your fucking body, and that's what On It's all about. | ||
| I take Alpha Brain every fucking day. | ||
| I definitely take it before every podcast. | ||
| In fact, I usually do it in the middle of the podcast, which is why I'm at my best about an hour or so in. | ||
| What do you got over there? | ||
| I got only new mood. | ||
| I don't want to take new mood right now. | ||
| You got any of that Alpha Brain? | ||
| You sound so retarded. | ||
| The way you said that sounds so retarded. | ||
| It was like the worst commercial for Alpha Brain ever. | ||
| I've been hanging out in Ohio. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| Oh, they drained you again, those vampires. | ||
| They got a whole backwards. | ||
| We have this new shit that's in. | ||
| It's called Hemp Force. | ||
| And all the information on any of these things, I don't want to go too in-depth because people complain that these commercials take too long. | ||
| What we're trying to do it on is sell you the very best shit possible as cheap as we can. | ||
| And to make it as easy as possible, so we have a 100% money-back guarantee on your first order of 30 vitamins, 30 pills, whether it's Alpha Brain or New Mood, which is a 5-HTP, an L-tryptophan supplement that actually boosts your mood. | ||
| It actually boosts your serotonin levels. | ||
| And there's a lot of science behind this stuff, but it's very controversial. | ||
| So if you're interested at all in nootropics, I suggest that you Google the word, nootropics, and just read on the pros and cons. | ||
| But to me, vitamins are a very important part of my life. | ||
| I think supplementing has made me a healthier person with a body that functions better. | ||
| Period. | ||
| We also have these kettlebells and battle ropes that are in, and I've talked about them ad nauseum. | ||
| But the new news is I will definitely be doing a kettlebell DVD with the great Steve Maxwell. | ||
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Sweet. | |
| Yeah, we did some emails back and forth, and Steve is totally down. | ||
| So we're going to do, he's going to, what we're going to do is I'm going to have Steve put me through one of his brutal workouts, and people at home will be able to do it along with him. | ||
| And I'm trying to do it for two, because, first of all, people keep asking me to do one of these. | ||
| And second of all, because I think people could really benefit from kettlebells. | ||
| I think it's a more interesting way to work out. | ||
| It feels more satisfying to me. | ||
| It's fucking harder. | ||
| Like when I see someone just doing bicep curls now, I'm like, you silly bitch. | ||
| Like that's nonsense. | ||
| Like it's too easy. | ||
| To really get like real benefits that you see when you roll, when you do jiu-jitsu, I feel like you have to do something really difficult. | ||
| You have to do either powerlifting, you have to do cleans and presses, you have to do squats, you have to do deadlifts. | ||
| If you want to like really get a benefit, you have to do that or you got to do something like kettlebells. | ||
| And what I like about kettlebells is you develop amazing core strength because you're essentially balancing this fucking cannonball and moving it around. | ||
| And it makes your body work intelligently as one unit. | ||
| And I think using your body to lift weights as one unit instead of isolating areas, to me shows the best benefits athletically. | ||
| So all that shit we sell at onit.com. | ||
| The vitamins? | ||
| That video you're making, Jimmy Kilstein wants to know if you wear GSP shorts in it. | ||
| You know, the shorts that GSP wears, those really tight ones. | ||
| He wants to know if you would wear it. | ||
| I would do that for him. | ||
| I would do that for him. | ||
| I still love him. | ||
| Anyway, go to onit.com, use the code name Rogan, save 10% off any of the supplements. | ||
| And that's including the Hemp Force. | ||
| So go check it out. | ||
| Onit.com, O-N-N-I-T. | ||
| And we also want to thank Alienware for providing us with these super dope computers. | ||
| And I'm now using Alienware as the computer that I use to watch YouTube videos and stuff. | ||
| So there's going to be a lot of new shenanigans for this. | ||
| Oh, excellent. | ||
| We'll get to see pop-up screens. | ||
| Yeah, the computers are awesome, but Windows can suck it. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| How about that? | ||
| We need to figure out a way to port these bitches over to Mac. | ||
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Wait a minute! | |
| Fanboys all across the world just went, what the fuck, man? | ||
| Windows is the shit. | ||
| I've been playing a future sponsor on the... | ||
| You don't know if you can talk about it? | ||
| Yeah, remember the iPad game? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, we'll soon. | ||
| Yeah, you've been previewing it. | ||
| We will soon be sponsored by a new game company that's making really badass iPad games. | ||
| Yeah, and I've been using my iPad a lot because of this game, which it's kind of weird. | ||
| It's turned into a Game Boy almost. | ||
| Yeah, Twitter. | ||
| That should be finalized really soon. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So let's roll the podcast. | ||
| We got a lot of shit to talk about. | ||
| A lot of shit. | ||
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The Joe Rogan experience. | |
| Join my day, Joe Rogan. | ||
| Podcast by night. | ||
| All day. | ||
| All day. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we are joined by congressional candidate David Seaman. | ||
| That sounds so official, dude. | ||
| I know, it feels kind of ridiculous. | ||
| I was at lunch the other day with a friend of mine. | ||
| I knew from it. | ||
| And we were talking about it. | ||
| It just sounds so ridiculous to talk about your supporters and campaigning and all this. | ||
| But it's cool in a way because I used to be the guy who would just watch TV and be so angry that all of these dumbasses have been in for 20 years and are legislating terrible stuff. | ||
| So I would just write articles about it and do YouTube videos about it. | ||
| And then a number of things happened and I actually had an opportunity to run. | ||
| So why not? | ||
| Why not jump in instead of just being on the sidelines? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Did you feel compelled? | ||
| Do you feel like you're calling? | ||
| I mean, how old are you? | ||
| I'm in my mid-20s. | ||
| You don't want to say? | ||
| I'm 26. | ||
| Why didn't you want to say? | ||
| Because mid-20s, more people can connect with that than 26. | ||
| We just ruined your entire campaign. | ||
| Now it's over, buddy. | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because normally, here's why I answered that way. | ||
| Normally it's a girl who asks me how old I am. | ||
| And so you can go for like 10 minutes on the guessing game. | ||
| Oh, and you like that. | ||
| You keep that. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| So you treat me like a chick. | ||
| How dare you, sir? | ||
| How dare you run your shenanigans my way? | ||
| Dude, I respect you if you're still running around with a last name like Seaman and being a young man. | ||
| That had to be brutal. | ||
| What the fuck was high school like? | ||
| High school was cool. | ||
| It was middle school that was bad because in high school people were like, okay. | ||
| They were over it. | ||
| Yeah, like in middle school, though, you take the science class where you first learn about that that happens. | ||
| And people just go wild. | ||
| They love it. | ||
| But it was kind of tempered by there's this guy in my same class with the last name either Butt Kiss or Butt Lick. | ||
| I think it was Butt Lick. | ||
| So like Seaman was almost a little too, it was a little too obscure for people to grasp. | ||
| But like Butt Lick, you could just jump on that and you could really bully that kid. | ||
| It's funny how weird noises with your mouth like have a different effect on people. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Or curse words. | ||
| Like why is something a curse word? | ||
| It's just something come out of your mouth. | ||
| It's almost to me, it's like that's the beginnings of all censorship. | ||
| The beginnings of all ignorance is this idea that we have bad words. | ||
| It's almost like if you can convince people, like if everybody agrees that there's bad words, we all agree there's words you should never say in certain company. | ||
| If you do that, that's a step one on the way to be full of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that, you know, it's weird that we still accept that. | ||
| It's so silly. | ||
| Those words are important. | ||
| If people don't use them, they're not as fun to talk to. | ||
| You know, I don't know a single person that never swears that's as legitimately fun to talk to as my friends who swear all the time. | ||
| If you don't swear at all, there's something a little bit wrong with you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's just, it's not the way people speak. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| By not using it, it's stupid. | ||
| Sometimes it's the fucking word to use. | ||
| Something completely wrong with my mom. | ||
| My mom, there's something wrong with her because she, I'll say shit, and she'll be like, Brian. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| Well, your mom's religious, though, dude. | ||
| And that's where things get odd. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In running for Congress, is that important? | ||
| Do you have to bring up religion? | ||
| Do you feel like you need people on your team? | ||
| Well, I mean, I have a lot of Republican and a lot of Democratic supporters, and obviously a lot of independents and libertarian-minded. | ||
| But they're not supporting me because of what I believe metaphysically, whatever that may be. | ||
| They're supporting me just because I want to protect the Constitution and defend the Bill of Rights. | ||
| And for most people, that's enough right there. | ||
| And if you believe in those things, you know that my personal beliefs are kind of irrelevant. | ||
| As long as I'm not a member of the League of Shadows or something, you know, and like, as long as your religion isn't harmful to anybody, it doesn't matter if you're an atheist or if you're a skeptic or secular or, you know, extremely, what's the word, extremely devout. | ||
| That shouldn't really matter when you're representing your district. | ||
| Yeah, I couldn't agree more. | ||
| And I really, I've been callous about people's ideas in the past and made fun of silly religions. | ||
| But the reality is some of the nicest people I know are religious people. | ||
| I have a friend who's a Mormon is like one of the nicest guys on earth. | ||
| I have a friend who's a Scientologist. | ||
| I've never met a mean Mormon. | ||
| They're like nice to the point where you're a little bit upset. | ||
| And they're really charitable. | ||
| It's a beautiful religion. | ||
| If you know people that are Mormons and you see how much they help each other when there's any sort of a crisis or one family has, how much they chip in, it's a beautiful community. | ||
| Even if it's based on nonsense, it's a beautiful community. | ||
| But you should be able to do whatever the fuck you want as long as you're nice. | ||
| That guy's my friend. | ||
| I mean, he believes all kinds of wacky shit. | ||
| They used to wear a special underwear, the whole fucking deal. | ||
| But he's my friend. | ||
| He's a nice guy. | ||
| I don't need him to believe everything I believe. | ||
| I just need to be able to interact with him and know that he's got my interests and his interests and everybody's interest at heart. | ||
| He's not just trying to fuck the whole thing up for himself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, personal beliefs, once you start telling somebody what they can believe and what they can't believe in terms of religion, you're jumping a huge slippery. | ||
| Yeah, it's a very slippery slope. | ||
| I think the idea is we should be as honest as possible about everything, about all your own personal beliefs on religion. | ||
| We should all be as honest as possible. | ||
| And I think we would come to a remarkable middle ground if we took away all the ideology. | ||
| I think we would come to, if we all got together, if the whole world could speak one language and we sat down and talked about religion, I think we would form remarkably similar opinions if we were really honest about what the fuck happens when you die and about who has created this earth. | ||
| It's a massive mystery. | ||
| Well, that's the, I'm definitely not religious, but people have asked me, somebody online on Google Plus actually asked me, he was like, do you believe in God? | ||
| This is a deal breaker for me. | ||
| He was atheist. | ||
| And first of all, he was posting a comment on a thread that had nothing to do with that. | ||
| I was writing something about censorship or like internet censorship, and this is his question. | ||
| Totally like hijacking what we're talking about. | ||
| But I wanted to answer him, and I said, you know, I believe in a higher power because I really don't want to believe that we're the most advanced thing in the universe. | ||
| Like, this iPhone over there is the most high-tech, incredible thing invented in the whole universe. | ||
| I just don't believe that. | ||
| And I don't believe that we're necessarily the highest level of intelligence out there. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| And if you look at where we are now, atheists want you to believe that we came from kind of like toxic sludge billions of years ago washing up on the shore in a kind of pre-oxygenated earth or whatever the details are. | ||
| And I'd like to think that there's more to life than that. | ||
| I really would. | ||
| Well, I would like to too. | ||
| I don't want to. | ||
| You don't want to? | ||
| You want to think this is it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just fucking floor it and see where it crashes? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You know, I think a lot of us would like to think there's something out there that's smarter than us. | ||
| I think the real issue is ego, is that the human ego is aware of itself. | ||
| And I think when a person's aware of themselves, when you start thinking of yourself and you want to keep yourself alive, you start looking at yourself very selfishly and unobjectively. | ||
| You start looking at yourself like you're super, super fucking important. | ||
| You know, I think if we could get past that and you looked at life and intelligence, you would say, well, why does it have to be coming out of the mouth of some thing that can move around? | ||
| Why am I assuming that that's the only intelligence? | ||
| How do I not know that there's not intelligence in stars? | ||
| How do I not know that there's intelligence? | ||
| There could be hyperintelligence all around us. | ||
| We're not capable of hearing its frequency. | ||
| We're not capable of communicating with it. | ||
| Why does this bag of blood and cells and nerve endings and electrical impulses, why does this make noise with its mouth and change the world? | ||
| Why the fuck does that happen? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| How do you not know that there's not an intelligence to everything around us all the time? | ||
| It's just imperceptible to us. | ||
| And they're starting to figure this out with plants. | ||
| They're starting to figure out that plants have some sort of rudimentary or unknown, rather. | ||
| I shouldn't say rudimentary. | ||
| It might be, like, really complicated. | ||
| Method of communicating with each other. | ||
| It's fucking freaky shit. | ||
| When one of the trees gets cut down, they send a chemical signal through the roots to the other trees and warn them or something. | ||
| Not that it really matters because you're a tree and you can't go anywhere. | ||
| But they send out the warning signal, you know? | ||
| And there's, I don't know if this has been debunked or not, but somebody put out a book a while ago that my aunt was really into. | ||
| And it was like, if you're in a room with a plant and you have positive emotions of like, I love this plant. | ||
| It fares better than a plant where you're like, I need to throw this damn thing out. | ||
| I think that's real. | ||
| Snipe it. | ||
| Because Snopes tends to be pretty honest about that shit. | ||
| Although they seem a little pessimistic. | ||
| You're saying Snopes once in a while is on the rag? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Do you think so? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How would I form this question? | ||
| Snoopy's... | ||
| Dew Plants... | ||
| Dew Plants... | ||
| Do plants think? | ||
| Positive emotion plants. | ||
| Yeah, positive singing to plants. | ||
| Benefits of positive. | ||
| Plant sex. | ||
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People. | |
| I wonder if you had sex with plants if they would grow bigger. | ||
| Maybe if you just came on your plant. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Sprinkled a little every day online. | ||
| I put some in some Gatorade once, and it looked like it grew twice its size overnight. | ||
| What? | ||
| I put some cum in and I wiped my cum off in Gatorade and it seemed like it just expanded really big in the Gatorade. | ||
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So I don't know if there's a chemical reaction between the two, but. | |
| I think I was too vague in my search. | ||
| Do people talk to plants? | ||
| What would you say? | ||
| It's not people talk to plants. | ||
| Positive energy. | ||
| Energy around plants helping butthole. | ||
| Is that hurricane hitting Florida right now? | ||
| Do you know anything about it? | ||
| I got out of there. | ||
| They offered to change my flight for no fee. | ||
| So I flew out a day early just because you want to be stuck in that. | ||
| Even if there is nothing big, airlines will cancel your flights just out of caution. | ||
| You know, I flew on Southwest the other day and I just wanted to sleep. | ||
| And the whole time they played games on the intercom and like trivia games with everyone, they're like, now press your button, that ding button, you know, like the help me button. | ||
| It seemed totally illegal because like what if somebody really needed help, like a heart attack and there's all these people dinging and they're like, no, I'm having a heart attack, you know? | ||
| But Southwest, I don't like those games. | ||
| Like I remember one time, I don't want to like single out and say it was definitely Southwest because I don't want to be sued. | ||
| But I'm like 99% sure it was Southwest. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| I'm 99.9%. | ||
| The flight attendant was making some kind of lame joke about like, hopefully we'll land. | ||
| And I was like, for me, that doesn't matter because you fly enough times you know that the odds are in your favor. | ||
| But every once in a while you get that person who's flying for the first time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it probably freaks the hell out of that person. | ||
| You almost swore. | ||
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And you know. | |
| You backed off it perfectly, though. | ||
| This is what one of the stewardesses said. | ||
| I'm trying to sleep, and they're screaming on the internet on the whole flight. | ||
| I want to kill people. | ||
| Like, she says, all right, now take your seatbelt and cross your lips. | ||
| Oh, I mean hips. | ||
| And I'm thinking, like, did she just mean pussy lips? | ||
| Because she made, like, the motion, like, cross your belt over your lips. | ||
| She probably used to be a stripper, and now she's a flight titan. | ||
| I'm trying to sleep. | ||
| Speaking of which, Virgin America, I was pretty impressed with, I don't know how they were able to do this legally, but everybody was young and had a good attitude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's like my euphemism for hot women. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And there are other airlines because of unions and stuff. | ||
| They're just, they have a serious attitude. | ||
| They hate their job. | ||
| And they're old. | ||
| They've been there for like 30 years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or there's stand-up comics that never made it, and now they're trying their material out of the way. | ||
| They have the ultimate captive audience. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Like, jump out? | ||
| We had a guy, Joey and I had a guy recently flying into Denver that has a whole routine. | ||
| He was doing stand-up. | ||
| I was like, as a stand-up, I know when someone's doing stand-up. | ||
| He was doing stand-up. | ||
| He had a whole routine that he would do, like a bunch of one-liners about travel. | ||
| It was so silly. | ||
| There's this one pilot that sings every time he takes off and lands. | ||
| That should definitely be illegal. | ||
| You're using up the airwaves. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| The idea of it is just so gross. | ||
| Like, who are you? | ||
| This is my plane. | ||
| I'm the pilot. | ||
| Slaps the waitress on her ass, Flight attendant on her ass as he moves into the cockpit, gives his buddy knuckles. | ||
| I'm going to sing to these people. | ||
| They need to hear my voice. | ||
| Singing in the rain. | ||
| It was also so cold, and I was like, can I please have a blanket? | ||
| And they're like, we don't have blankets. | ||
| And I'm like, all right, so I had to make one of those things where you take your arms and put it inside your shirt and then just make a cocoon and bundle up in a corner because it was so freezing on the plane while they were doing this. | ||
| How healthy could it be being a pilot? | ||
| You just flying up and blasted by radiation. | ||
| Blasted by radiation in front of a window. | ||
| I mean, it's... | ||
| Makes you want to play trivia games over the intercom. | ||
| How much radiation is involved in plane flight? | ||
| Do you know? | ||
| I heard something across country is like the equivalent of a chest x-ray or something. | ||
| It's nothing. | ||
| It's just the fact if you're flying every single day, as they do, it might add up. | ||
| And radiation is not as bad for you as people make it out to be. | ||
| The Fukushima style stuff is definitely really bad for you. | ||
| But in terms of just low ambient doses, you're getting radiation just walking outside. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| I read somewhere in a kitchen with a marble top that's giving off radiation. | ||
| Yeah, isn't that crazy? | ||
| Yeah, I was watching some documentary on TV where they were talking about dinosaur bones, some of them being radioactive. | ||
| They had to coat them with lead paint to try to reduce the amount of radioactive energy that came off. | ||
| I don't know if that's horseshit or not. | ||
| It sounds silly. | ||
| But it actually makes sense if the dinosaurs died from some sort of a meteor impact or something like that, that there was some radiation. | ||
| 6,000 years ago, right? | ||
| Yeah, how long is a half-life for that stuff? | ||
| They said 6,000 years ago. | ||
| No, I'm saying the dinosaurs were 6,000 years ago. | ||
| It was at least 6,000 years ago. | ||
| Okay, cool ago. | ||
| 6,000 or more. | ||
| How do you deal with that question? | ||
| For folks who don't know what the fuck we're talking about, do serious fundamentalists believe that the Earth is 6,000 years old? | ||
| I think the way I'd answer it is I'd be like, I definitely believe there were dinosaurs on the planet 6,000 or more years ago. | ||
| I don't believe they're a trick by the devil. | ||
| I don't believe dinosaur fossils are there to confuse us and question our faith. | ||
| I think they're there because they're dinosaur fossils. | ||
| Bill Hicks had a great joke about that. | ||
| Doesn't it bother you that God might be fucking with you? | ||
| God might be fucking with your head? | ||
| That's such a great bit about God burying dinosaur bones and giggling. | ||
| Like, figure this out. | ||
| Yeah, he's questioning your faith. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| That is one of the most beautiful ways to shut down new ideas. | ||
| It's Satan questioning your faith. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you can't let that 6,000-year thing go, okay? | ||
| We know more now, period. | ||
| You can't trust what was in a book that was written by people who were deciphering it from several other different languages also, by the way. | ||
| It didn't immediately go to English. | ||
| It had to be translated from Hebrew to Latin to a lot of shit missing from that, man. | ||
| Maybe that 6,000 years is a figure of speech. | ||
| Yeah, I wondered about that. | ||
| You look at a Wikipedia entry, and here we have digital content where you transfer something and it's 100% intact. | ||
| Back then, you're just doing it by hand, and you have other issues going on. | ||
| Maybe you get hit with the plague. | ||
| And the editors get wiped out. | ||
| But, like, whenever you copy something from book to book, there are going to be big changes just out of, like, Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So true. | ||
| There's no way you can spread information on the back of animal hides for a thousand years and have that shit come out perfect. | ||
| You gotta let that 6,000-year thing go. | ||
| Well, it's wild that just like 400 years ago, people really thought that, or I don't know if they thought this, they were told that the Earth was the center of the universe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you know these people were not any dumber than we are today, like biologically the same brain. | ||
| And people were doing smart stuff back then. | ||
| But they had to like buy into this collective bullshit. | ||
| Like, oh yeah, it is, we're definitely the center of the universe, even though we know that's not the case. | ||
| And back then, if you said something, if you came out with some new information that showed that the current model was completely false, they would put you in jail or kill you. | ||
| You didn't just accept it. | ||
| You weren't allowed to just come out and say, hey, man, I think that we're spinning around it. | ||
| And it's one of a bunch of them. | ||
| You weren't allowed to say that. | ||
| They were like, wasn't Galileo was put under house arrest? | ||
| Yeah, he was under house arrest. | ||
| I mean, it was considered heresy, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| New information is considered satanic. | ||
| They wanted to, what's really exciting, ridiculous, rather, if you stop and think about that. | ||
| They just wanted to lock down information so bad that if you had some new stuff, they wouldn't even consider it. | ||
| It was the work of the devil. | ||
| They had it locked down. | ||
| They knew exactly what was up. | ||
| That kind of confidence is so ridiculous. | ||
| Well, it might have been lack of confidence, actually, because if you acknowledge that, okay, you guys are right, the earth is just this insignificant thing in a much bigger picture, then maybe people go, well, what about the Pope? | ||
| Do we still have to pay homage to them, or could that be a typo also, you know? | ||
| That's one of the most ridiculous things ever that foreign dignitaries and presidents and prime ministers, they have to sit down and meet with the fucking Pope. | ||
| They have to sit down and meet with this cult leader who's dressed like a wizard in a Star Wars episode. | ||
| I mean, it's the most ridiculous idea ever that this guy should still be dressing like this in 2012 and we should still pretend that he's holy. | ||
| We should still pretend that he's got the Willy Wonka golden ticket to Jesus' fucking factory fuckhouse. | ||
| It's unbelievable, man. | ||
| It's unbelievable that that still works. | ||
| That kind of stuff is preposterous. | ||
| That kind of stuff is... | ||
| It's not whether or not there's a God. | ||
| It's not whether or not the idea of a higher power exists. | ||
| Of course it does. | ||
| It would be crazy to think that some higher intelligent might be at the end of all this. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| We are? | ||
| Look how much change we enact on our environment and we do it thoughtfully. | ||
| We do it whether it's reasonable or not. | ||
| We're thinking about it while we're doing it. | ||
| Even when you throw garbage in the ocean, you're thinking about it when you do that. | ||
| Why wouldn't we assume that there's some sort of an intelligence to galaxies? | ||
| Why wouldn't we assume that? | ||
| just because it can't talk English? | ||
| That's so arrogant. | ||
| To me, it's crazy to think that we're the only intelligence just because we can clearly communicate with each other but can't communicate with other things. | ||
| Yeah, that's like how they test for intelligence in schools with the SAT test. | ||
| So you get somebody who's good at memorizing facts and filling out bubbles, and it doesn't account at all for that person who's truly a genius at painting or at designing websites or doing things that are ultimately much more lucrative than filling out a bubble test. | ||
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Me. | |
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, Brian is a good example. | ||
| I mean, you did say that as a joke, but you are a good example. | ||
| Like, you're great at what you do. | ||
| I fucking hate math. | ||
| But imagine if you had to do something else. | ||
| What if you had to be a lawnmower guy? | ||
| What if you had to be a guy who mows lawns? | ||
| How good would you be at that? | ||
| He would fucking suck at that. | ||
| Well, to some people, you know, certain things have no appeal to them. | ||
| They have no desire to do it. | ||
| For other people, other people love mowing lawns. | ||
| I know dudes who are landscape artists. | ||
| They're fucking artists, man. | ||
| They put together the plants in the right place, and they arrange the flowers perfectly and cut everything. | ||
| And it creates this really nice aesthetic. | ||
| Like when a guy does your front lawn, and there's a guy across the street from my house who has like little gnomes and shit, puts all these little things in front of it. | ||
| I mean, he's creating like a little work of art out there. | ||
| That guy's compelled to do that, man. | ||
| Everybody's compelled to do different shit. | ||
| The real problem is that we don't recognize that. | ||
| We're always trying to push people into areas where they're not compelled. | ||
| We're trying to tell people, well, you can't be a professional skateboarder. | ||
| There's no money in that. | ||
| Then you go, what the fuck is Tony Hawk? | ||
| Who's that guy? | ||
| Why is that guy? | ||
| That guy's fucking huge. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How come he, There's money in it. | ||
| Stop telling me what to do. | ||
| I'm going to do this. | ||
| I'm going to try to do this. | ||
| Well, people have such a weird attitude. | ||
| I told people I was coming out here to do your show and to do a couple of meetings. | ||
| And they're like, so is somebody paying you to go out there? | ||
| And I'm like, are you serious? | ||
| Like, I'm going to be in front of millions of people. | ||
| And that's the first question on your mind is, am I being paid to come out? | ||
| And people really think like that. | ||
| Like, you ask them to do something, and it's like, well, is this on the payroll? | ||
| And you're like, just fucking do it. | ||
| It's something important. | ||
| You should do it. | ||
| Like, there are a lot of people who they want to be in a cubicle and get paid on a time schedule. | ||
| And that's all they want. | ||
| And if they encounter somebody who's not on that same thought process of, I wonder what my annual salary this year is going to be, then they're confused. | ||
| Like, wait a second, why aren't you maximizing your available work hours? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, we want to know that we have a certain amount of money coming in every month. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's normal. | ||
| That's just like not wanting to starve. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then there are people who, it's like anything that's coming out of a place of passion or a place of civic duty. | ||
| It's like, what is that all about? | ||
| Like the TSA, for example, whenever I rant about them on Twitter or on one of my articles on Business Insider, I get a couple of people who always say, they're just doing their jobs. | ||
| Leave them alone. | ||
| I'm like, that's the justification given for some of the most evil stuff that's been done on this planet. | ||
| We're just doing our jobs. | ||
| Find a job that doesn't violate people's constitutional rights. | ||
| Find a job where you can go home at night and not be embarrassed by what you're doing all day. | ||
| And for the money they're making, whatever they're making, it's not enough to just totally infringe on other people's basic rights. | ||
| And I feel that way. | ||
| It's not all about the money. | ||
| It has to be the money and doing something that you're okay with. | ||
| I don't think, I don't, first of all, I don't think it's the fault of the TSA people. | ||
| I think, first of all, that's an incredibly difficult job. | ||
| Whenever you're trying to search people's shit when they're on their way somewhere, that's a difficult job. | ||
| Because what if someone does get through with a bomb? | ||
| What if someone does get through with some shit that can light the inside of the plane on fire? | ||
| That's a real problem. | ||
| And we live in a fucked up time. | ||
| We really do. | ||
| We do live in a fucked up time. | ||
| But these people that are working there, man, they're just people with jobs. | ||
| The people that are running the whole thing must be responsible. | ||
| Well, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whenever you have a problem with somebody, it's the people at the top. | ||
| Well, you give people a job like that. | ||
| Like, you've got to make sure nobody has a bomb. | ||
| Like, all right, you know, like, sir, listen to me, sir. | ||
| Like, people don't want to listen to you. | ||
| People naturally get a little bit douchey. | ||
| Everybody you meet is annoyed to meet you all day long. | ||
| They're annoyed to be in front of you. | ||
| So I think we need to figure out a way, first of all, to make it way less intrusive on people. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| More realistic, too. | ||
| Like old people and babies and shit. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Is this baby a terrorist? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's one of the only, for a lot of people, it's one of the only times where you meet the federal government face to face, representative of the federal government. | ||
| And it's normally not a pleasant encounter. | ||
| Like you said, they're annoyed. | ||
| You're either annoyed or scared. | ||
| It could be an awesome experience. | ||
| It could be like, wow, the government's looking out for me. | ||
| This is efficient. | ||
| This is a decent use of tax dollars. | ||
| But instead, I get the opposite feeling. | ||
| I'm disgusted every time I go through with that. | ||
| And it's the same with tourists. | ||
| People come to the U.S. and they don't want to come back because if you're a visitor, you get treated even worse. | ||
| You're automatically, you get the Kiefer Sutherland treatment. | ||
| And they think you're a threat until you prove otherwise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're a nation of cunts. | ||
| I don't think I'm not going to campaign on that. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| It wouldn't help. | ||
| But it's so frustrating. | ||
| It's really frustrating when you stop and think about it. | ||
| Could you imagine though if babies were terrorists? | ||
| Oh, gosh. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| The first terrible thing is that we have to worry about someone pulling a stunt like that dude did when he tried to light his underwear on fire. | ||
| What is he trying to do? | ||
| Light his shoes on fire? | ||
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| From that guy on, everybody had to take their shoes off. | ||
| The thing with al-Qaeda is they really don't seem to try the same thing multiple times. | ||
| Like, 9-11 happened. | ||
| If we're going to just stick with the official story and not delve into alternative possibilities, which are definitely possibilities based on the research I've done. | ||
| But if you're going with the official story, this took them years to plan out. | ||
| And it worked not because they were geniuses. | ||
| It worked because it's like running up to the biggest kid on the playground and just unexpectedly kicking him in the nuts. | ||
| Like, that's going to work because he's not expecting It. | ||
| It's not going to work a second time or a third time, but they did something that was totally unexpected, and that's why it worked. | ||
| Not because they were brilliant masterminds. | ||
| And then they tried something completely different, the underwear bomb or the shoe bomb. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| Next time, we shouldn't even be looking at airports. | ||
| Honestly, the next threat is going to be something, whatever it is, I would put my money on being something completely different from that. | ||
| Yeah, and then the idea is that the more rights they take away from us, the less likely that is to happen. | ||
| It's still a real bet, guys. | ||
| Real bet? | ||
| Yeah, real bet. | ||
| What, whether or not something's going to happen? | ||
| Is that illegal to bet on the next terrorist? | ||
| Just creepiest bet ever. | ||
| You fucking creepy bastard. | ||
| You can't do that, man. | ||
| You can't bet on shit. | ||
| Although there are, like, in London, there's that betting house where you can bet on anything. | ||
| You can be like, what are the odds that Madonna will get like an STD in the next 18 months? | ||
| Whatever it is, there's a wager on it. | ||
| England rules. | ||
| Doesn't Stanhope do that kind of stuff? | ||
| Like those crazy bets? | ||
| It's a good idea. | ||
| I'm sure he would. | ||
| Stanhope and I, by the way, are doing an end of the year, December 21st, end of the world, Mayan calendar apocalypse show in Hollywood. | ||
| We're going to do it at the Wiltern Theater in Hollywood. | ||
| It's going to be me, Joey Diaz, Stanhope, and Honey Honey. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's going to be so fucking great. | ||
| Yeah, we're working it all out now. | ||
| It'll be at the Wiltern December 21st. | ||
| I don't think tickets are not on sale yet, but it's going to be fucking crazy. | ||
| Oh, and we're at the ice house this weekend. | ||
| We had to cancel this show at Mandalay Bay because the UFC got canceled. | ||
| First time ever. | ||
| And so we moved the show to the ice house. | ||
| Friday is 10 o'clock, and Saturday is 10.30, I believe. | ||
| Or is it the other way? | ||
| It's around 10-ish. | ||
| Go to icehousecomedy.com to get tickets there at. | ||
| It's the greatest club in the world, this place. | ||
| It's run by the nicest people ever. | ||
| It's in Pasadena. | ||
| And the way this place is set up, it's basically the same club that was here in the 1960s. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's like a slice of history. | ||
| And we love it. | ||
| So we're here all the time. | ||
| So this weekend it'll be me, Joey, and Ari. | ||
| And it'll be just like a regular, real show. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Come on down. | ||
| So David Seaman, I'm sorry, we went off track there. | ||
| No, you've been off air for a while, right? | ||
| So you're trying to catch up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, we were in vacation mode last week. | ||
| So you're running for Congress out of Florida. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| And when you're doing that, what do you have to do? | ||
| How do you get your word out? | ||
| Do you go door to door? | ||
| How do you let people know? | ||
| Do you just put out internet videos? | ||
| Like, what's your method of never leave the apartment? | ||
| I never leave the apartment. | ||
| No, like, right now we're actually trying to build national awareness, so it does involve a lot of internet stuff and doing TV shows and local radio shows. | ||
| And that's the best way to hit people. | ||
| Like, it makes you sound like you're lazy when you're like, I just do that. | ||
| But I mean, we also go out and talk to actual people and shake hands and all that stuff. | ||
| But you do that, you're exhausted by the end of the day. | ||
| You've talked to some crazy people. | ||
| You've only made a difference. | ||
| You've made a difference of now 20 people know who you are versus like somebody's like, you want to do a radio show and like, you know, they call your cell phone and you lie and say it's a landline because they call your cell phone and you talk to some dude for 10 minutes and you're like, okay, now 10,000 people in this area know about my campaign. | ||
| That's a hell of a lot better than shaking hands with the crazy people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you need to do both because you can't be this disconnected like media personality. | ||
| You have to actually know what you're talking about. | ||
| Especially when somebody hits you with a local issue, you got to be right on top of that. | ||
| And the best way to know about that is by talking to people. | ||
| Yeah, that's a really good point, man. | ||
| So it's not either or. | ||
| It's both. | ||
| You've got to be hands-on, and you also have to be... | ||
| The online method of distribution is the new way. | ||
| I mean, for everything. | ||
| For stand-up comedy, for... | ||
| I mean, CNN and MSNBC won't have me. | ||
| I don't think they'll have me on because I've trashed them so many times on Twitter. | ||
| But there are a couple of cable networks that like me and have me on, and they're like my lifeblood for getting word out about this stuff, you know? | ||
| What is your main beef with mainstream news? | ||
| What is the main problem you have with it? | ||
| A total lack of sense of scale. | ||
| Like, they'll be like, we have controversial new tweets from Justin Bieber after the break. | ||
| You're like, this is really Fox News, or this is really MSNBC, you know? | ||
| Or like, Paul Ryan's budget plan might affect us in 10 years. | ||
| And you're like, okay, that's fine for a segment, but what about covering the massive protests that are happening around the country that I have to tune into on some live stream site that somebody sends me in an email? | ||
| And I see people not much older and not much younger than me getting the shit kicked out of them, especially girls for some reason. | ||
| I see a lot of that. | ||
| And this is all happening. | ||
| I'm like, this is incredible. | ||
| And you look at the bottom and it's like 6,000 people watching, 7,000 people watching, 8,000 people watching. | ||
| And you're like, any second, this is going to be on CNN. | ||
| And I've done this a million times. | ||
| You turn on the TV and you're like, okay, say something about the protests. | ||
| Not a single word. | ||
| And it starts to creep you out. | ||
| You're like, maybe they know about this and they're just not saying anything. | ||
| Because a lot of people send in tips. | ||
| A lot of people tweet CNN and email CNN and email producers there. | ||
| Like, I know how to work with TV producers. | ||
| And for some reason, those handful of networks just don't want to cover what's happening in this country. | ||
| They don't want to cover civil unrest. | ||
| They don't want to cover police beating people. | ||
| And they don't want to cover anything that Congress has been working on over the past eight months. | ||
| I have not heard much coverage of this stuff. | ||
| Yeah, it's disturbing when you find out how many different places are experiencing this massive amount of civil unrest, too. | ||
| It's happening all over the world. | ||
| They think they can just control it. | ||
| Until it's on the evening news, it's not really a thing. | ||
| Like somebody might post about it on Twitter or Facebook, but you're able to. | ||
| It's not legit. | ||
| Yeah, you're able to cognitively be like, well, that's just Chris or that's just Amy. | ||
| They've always been weirdos, you know? | ||
| And then once it's on TV, it's real because it's this collective thing. | ||
| And just a quick shout out. | ||
| Current TV and RT America have kicked ass. | ||
| They're actually covering this stuff. | ||
| They're covering the protests. | ||
| They've been covering NDAA and SOPA and CIPA and all of these crazy bills that Congress is working on. | ||
| They're actually doing what all the TV networks used to do. | ||
| Well, you know what we can do is all of us can start paying attention to them and not paying attention to CNN. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We have to figure out who the fuck has a Nielsen box. | ||
| Get inside that guy's head and go, listen, man. | ||
| Well, CNN's ratings are down tremendously. | ||
| They're down like 50% over the past year. | ||
| Really? | ||
| 50%. | ||
| That's because people just don't buy it anymore. | ||
| They're always going to have that person out there who wants to watch a political shout fest, you know? | ||
| But there are a lot of people who would just rather look for news on Twitter, look for news on Google News. | ||
| I mean, at least Google News. | ||
| You type in protest and you see real articles about what's happening. | ||
| So it's a better way to get your information. | ||
| Do you think what's happening is that because of the spread of information through the internet, we've realized how they've done business as usual the whole time. | ||
| They have denied attention to a lot of really important things, but we didn't have any other way to get the information out. | ||
| Like if there's something happening in the Congo, like I didn't know anything about Liberia until I watched A Vice Guide to Liberia. | ||
| And I was like, holy shit. | ||
| Like what a crazy part of the world this is. | ||
| Why didn't I get that from any other sources? | ||
| Well, no other sources had it on. | ||
| It was not on CNN. | ||
| I mean, they wouldn't air a show like that. | ||
| It's almost like in them having the power, they ultimately became corrupt. | ||
| Even if you have your idea is that you want to do some sort of a news thing. | ||
| If you're not monitored, if no one knows, like in the day, now everything is so transparent. | ||
| But back then, you weren't monitored. | ||
| You put on whatever you wanted to put on, whether the government told you to put on, whatever deals you'd made to put on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you're partially right. | ||
| I think part of the reason why we feel like there's so much bad stuff going on today is that we have access to it. | ||
| And back then you had three TV networks, not even cable. | ||
| You just had the three networks. | ||
| And they told you what you were supposed to be worried about. | ||
| And that was it. | ||
| How else are you going to get information? | ||
| The newspapers, same thing there. | ||
| But I think also there's a big aspect of it that things really are accelerating and getting worse. | ||
| Some of the things they're drafting in Congress are things that a previous generation would have just said, hell no. | ||
| The people in Congress wouldn't have thought of drafting it, and people hearing about it one way or another would have not tolerated it. | ||
| We have a much higher tolerance right now for corruption and for bad legislation than we used to. | ||
| Is that because we're too distracted? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| You think? | ||
| I mean, that's my guess is we're distracted. | ||
| And things are still good right now. | ||
| For a lot of people, like, if you can pay your rent and you can watch 100 channels online or on cable, you're constantly entertained. | ||
| And as long as you're not starving and as long as you're not bored, you're not going to go out in the streets and protest losing your right to a trial or losing any of these things that we've lost over the past eight months. | ||
| And that's what a lot of people don't realize, this National Defense Authorization Act that got passed, which is what really is, is an act of treason. | ||
| I mean, you could think of no other way to describe it. | ||
| It appears to be high treason. | ||
| Like, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, if in the 60s or the 70s, if the people found out that, oh, by the way, Kennedy drafted something that would take away your right to a trial and allow him to imprison you on suspicion alone for the rest of your life, people would be like, what? | ||
| No way. | ||
| And it's supposed to be that we're supposed to trust them. | ||
| They're only going to use it on people who deserve it. | ||
| They're only going to do it on bad guys. | ||
| It doesn't happen. | ||
| Don't worry about it, Mike. | ||
| It's not about you. | ||
| We're just worried about terrorists. | ||
| We're not going to use it. | ||
| Says who. | ||
| And also, that's not the role of the government in the first place. | ||
| It's like, I'm going to have your girlfriend in my bed, but don't worry about it. | ||
| Nothing's going to happen. | ||
| It's like, well, that's not an option in the first place. | ||
| You know, you doing these things is not something that's constitutional to begin with, so your intentions don't really matter. | ||
| It's frightening that that could ever get passed. | ||
| It's really frightening. | ||
| And it just shows you how when people are in power, when they're in positions of power, they do everything they possibly can to hold it. | ||
| And when you sense a trend of this, the trend is information is coming in and people are having much more access to all sorts of things. | ||
| And ultimately, the internet is going to represent how people communicate and how people express anything, whether it's voting, whether it's deciding. | ||
| I mean, that's how it should be. | ||
| It should be polls. | ||
| We should be able to figure out how to make each human being have a bio-identifiable characteristic, whether it's looking in their eyes or registering their finger. | ||
| Everybody should have that shit on their fucking laptop. | ||
| And we should all be able to vote online, because then things would be a whole lot different. | ||
| That is the future, and they don't have that yet. | ||
| And it's real close. | ||
| So these fucking assholes that are running things are just holding on tooth and claw. | ||
| And the way they're doing that is by pulling rights away. | ||
| And they're doing it under the guise of helping us, which is fucking disgusting. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And I have a theory that I've never said anywhere else before. | ||
| But you were talking about how they're taking away rights. | ||
| People are kind of wising up and they're no longer tolerating it because information's getting out. | ||
| I wouldn't stake my reputation on this, but my theory is that it got to the point with Bush, eight years of Bush, to where they knew that the people just were not having it anymore. | ||
| They're sick of funding wars. | ||
| They're sick of this Patriot Act stuff. | ||
| The whole thing, right? | ||
| And then Obama came along, draped in hope and change and very positive message. | ||
| And people put their support behind him and thought they were getting something brand new. | ||
| And when really he's backed by the same people who backed Bush, essentially the same kinds of interests. | ||
| And so you had a couple of years there where people let their guard down. | ||
| And meanwhile, the same stuff has been happening, taking away more rights. | ||
| The Patriot Act has not stopped being used. | ||
| 300,000 people have been, around 300,000 people have been served NSLs. | ||
| And they might be spying on hundreds of millions of Americans. | ||
| I had so much more confidence in us when I was really young during the Clinton administration. | ||
| I had so much more confidence in what the government would and wouldn't do to its civilians, to its civilization. | ||
| I remember this girl in my class, her dad worked on the Hubble Space Telescope. | ||
| And he came to our school to talk about it. | ||
| And there was a camera crew there from the TV stations and stuff. | ||
| I remember thinking, how cool this is. | ||
| Government is funding this crazy thing that is going to make a difference and move us forward. | ||
| I say, this is amazing. | ||
| And now I don't feel that way about a lot of programs. | ||
| Now I'm constantly being sent articles where you're just kind of in disbelief. | ||
| You've probably read about this, the NDRP, the National Defense Resources Preparedness, executive order. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| So a reader sent this to me, and you always follow tips, regardless of what they are. | ||
| I read through this thing. | ||
| It's an executive order from Obama. | ||
| And I was like, this is bullshit. | ||
| This must be made up somehow. | ||
| But then I went on the White House website on whitehouse.gov, where they have to publish the executive orders word for word. | ||
| I read through it and I was like, whoa, this makes no sense. | ||
| He's claiming powers that no president should claim. | ||
| The ability to nationalize whole companies or nationalize industries and take personal property and land and really take and do whatever his administration wants. | ||
| All they have to do is claim they're preparing for a national emergency. | ||
| There doesn't have to be proof that there's a national emergency on the way. | ||
| There doesn't actually have to be a national emergency. | ||
| The national emergency can just be him declaring that there might be one. | ||
| The national emergency could be the threat of terrorism. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It could be just this looming threat of terrorism. | ||
| And then I'm sorry, but that's the scariest thing about having that sort of an enemy. | ||
| You can kind of claim it's everywhere. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, in the NDAA, part of the language is until hostilities end. | ||
| So what does that mean? | ||
| It's like when there's not a single violent person on the earth who ever commits a crime or turns to violence against innocent people, then we'll stop detaining people without a trial. | ||
| What is the exact language? | ||
| Until hostilities end. | ||
| Yeah, go on belligerentact.org. | ||
| I'm not affiliated with them, but it's just this one-page site that does a great job of breaking down the exact language. | ||
| Until hostilities end, that's so creepy. | ||
| Can you bring that up and read it? | ||
| Because they do a good job of highlighting. | ||
| What is it again? | ||
| It's belligerentact.org. | ||
| Because there are a lot of people, when I was covering this stuff, like, I want to see the exact language. | ||
| You don't know what you're talking about. | ||
| And I was like, well, this is based on the ACLU's analysis and Amnesty International's analysis and, you know, etc. | ||
| They're like, I don't care. | ||
| I still want to see the exact language. | ||
| Belligerent Act? | ||
| And that website does a good job of showing people, like, here are the exact words that were signed into law that affect you. | ||
| I don't want to read this, man. | ||
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| I can't get a lot of words. | ||
| You can't spell belligerent, you silly bitch. | ||
| There's two L's. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Be contained indefinitely without trial. | ||
| Wow, this is so weird. | ||
| It makes it legal to incarcerate United States citizens without recourse to any form of judicial process. | ||
| Just that alone. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Why do we have a judicial branch if you're not going to use it? | ||
| But the idea that you would allow someone to sign a law that says they can incarcerate United States citizens without recourse of any form. | ||
| There's nothing you can do. | ||
| They can lock you up for the rest of your life, and that's written down somewhere. | ||
| Just because it's written down somewhere, that doesn't mean it's not crazy. | ||
| The fact that they even thought that they could be able to pass that, that that would be something that you could put into law. | ||
| What, life in prison's not enough? | ||
| We already have that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, it was like that Martin Luther King quote. | ||
| He talks about how he talked about how there's a difference between breaking the law and abiding. | ||
| I'm messing up his quote entirely, but basically, just because it's a law doesn't make it just. | ||
| And just because it's just, it might not necessarily be the law. | ||
| You might be doing something that's against the law, but it's the just thing to do. | ||
| And at the same time, a law might be profoundly unjust. | ||
| Just because somebody signed a piece of paper, as you said, that doesn't mean that we should ruin thousands of people's lives over it. | ||
| It's completely ridiculous. | ||
| And the only reason why it's here is because this is the old way. | ||
| This is the way things were done. | ||
| The way things were done, it was very difficult to change laws. | ||
| And things were written in fucking stone. | ||
| And that was what it was. | ||
| And people are evolving. | ||
| Culture is evolving. | ||
| Our understanding of our world is changing and ever moving forward. | ||
| And our laws should reflect that. | ||
| And it shouldn't be the opposite of that. | ||
| If there's a tightening down, well, that to me is a great example of how there's someone who doesn't get it. | ||
| And the someone who doesn't get it is the people that are actually running shit. | ||
| They have the wrong intentions. | ||
| They're not looking at this correctly. | ||
| You shouldn't be trying to tighten up. | ||
| You shouldn't be trying to help all the things that are fucked up about the world. | ||
| That's what we should be using our resources for. | ||
| And there's money in that as well, by the way. | ||
| There's jobs in that as well, by the way. | ||
| There's jobs in any direction you take. | ||
| I mean, the TSA is creating jobs. | ||
| I'd rather see people employ more people over at NASA. | ||
| I would like to see that, too. | ||
| I would like to see that much more than I would like to see us go into foreign countries and invade their soil. | ||
| But I think what's really scary to me is that people are allowed to make these decisions without the will of the American people behind them. | ||
| Part of this was literally drafted behind closed doors. | ||
| People have no input. | ||
| It's terrifying. | ||
| It's terrifying. | ||
| And how did you find out about this? | ||
| A reader sent me a thing about it, and it was a link to an article that Wired had done back in, I think, early December. | ||
| Might have even been November. | ||
| And so I did a YouTube video about it. | ||
| I did some articles. | ||
| And I felt like there's no way this thing will actually become law, but it's still disturbing. | ||
| I have to keep an eye on it and tell people about it. | ||
| And then Obama came out and said, his administration came out and said they were going to veto it. | ||
| And then I was like, all right, good. | ||
| This is what should happen. | ||
| Something ridiculous is proposed. | ||
| And they say, we're not signing this. | ||
| And then on New Year's Eve, while everybody's out drinking and not paying attention to these things, he signed it into law. | ||
| And then after that, he took some heat for that. | ||
| And he said, well, I'm not going to use what I just signed into law. | ||
| I'm not going to use that section. | ||
| And he issued a signing statement saying that he wasn't going to use it. | ||
| But the problem with that is it's not legally valid. | ||
| It's like doing something and then putting a post-it note on somebody's door saying, sorry about that. | ||
| Like the signing statement is not legally valid. | ||
| Not only that, he said he wouldn't sign it. | ||
| And he signed it. | ||
| Why am I going to believe that he's not going to use it after he says he's not going to use it? | ||
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| And then it gets even worse because then it goes to federal court. | ||
| Plaintiffs, including a former war correspondent Chris Hedges, who used to work at the New York Times, and Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers. | ||
| These are pretty credible people. | ||
| These aren't like quacks, you know. | ||
| They filed a court case thinking with the intention of blocking this because they said that NDAA could basically endanger their safety and the safety of any journalist. | ||
| You know, if the government doesn't want you talking about something, let's just detain him without a trial. | ||
| Problem solved. | ||
| And the federal court judge, Catherine Forrest, ruled it unconstitutional. | ||
| So, again, it should have stopped there. | ||
| But Obama's administration, his lawyers, are now appealing that temporary injunction. | ||
| And so, every single step of the way, you're like, wait, if he doesn't want it, why does he keep pushing for it? | ||
| It's so disturbing. | ||
| It just reeks of corruption, and it reeks of the worst intentions. | ||
| It reeks of looking at us like we're sheep to be controlled. | ||
| Well, the intentions are to crush dissent. | ||
| To crush dissent. | ||
| There's the assumption that these protests will continue to grow in relevance and in size. | ||
| And there's the assumption that the economy, if there's not some kind of economic collapse, who knows? | ||
| It could just be years of slow employment and years of people being unsatisfied. | ||
| And even if that's not a total calamity, that's still a breeding ground for mass civil unrest. | ||
| And they think if we have this ability to imprison people without a trial, just on our say-so, that's going to crush dissent pretty fast. | ||
| The first thousand people will be arrested and put in prison. | ||
| That's the end of it. | ||
| No more protesters because nobody else is going to go out of their house. | ||
| Well, what's crazy, though, is that the people who are arresting the people are on the same side as those people. | ||
| They're just people that are working. | ||
| They're working folks. | ||
| The cops and the soldiers, those aren't the people pulling the fucking strings. | ||
| The people that are going to have to do the arresting, whether it's military police or whether it's regular police, those are just fucking citizens with jobs. | ||
| They're not the power problem. | ||
| They're not the people making the actual calls. | ||
| That's a small group of people that we could easily overpower. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's why. | ||
| I'm not calling for revolution. | ||
| When I have trouble with the TSA, well, now that I'm running for Congress, it's a little bit better because if they harass me too much, they're actually interfering with the democratic process. | ||
| They're making it so that I can't catch my flight and can't go to a fundraiser or can't go to a media interview. | ||
| That's a big deal, you know. | ||
| Has anyone ever done that? | ||
| No, it's been pretty good. | ||
| Do you worry about that? | ||
| I don't worry about it. | ||
| What I worry about is what I actually experience every time, which is I politely opt out of the new screeners because those give off radiation and they've been banned in Europe. | ||
| The European Union has banned this kind of scanner because they don't know the long-term health effects of shooting radiation into your body, backscatter radiation. | ||
| It's a different form of radiation than chest x-rays, I believe. | ||
| I'm not an expert on this, but it's different because it's doing a different thing. | ||
| It's taking a photo of basically the outside of you instead of just blasting right through your body to show your bones on an x-ray. | ||
| So as a result, it's a different kind of radiation. | ||
| And so anyway, these machines freak me out to the point where I don't want my testicles going through that every single time I get on a flight. | ||
| So I politely opt out, and there's a sign right there that says, if you'd like to opt out, let us know. | ||
| I opt out. | ||
| And then you're treated in a way that's not very good. | ||
| They say, we have an opt-out. | ||
| Sir, stand over there. | ||
| Like you've done something wrong, right? | ||
| It's not like, oh, okay, cool. | ||
| Just give us a second. | ||
| We'll get to it. | ||
| It's all about the attitude. | ||
| They say, we have an opt-out, stand over there. | ||
| And then travelers behind you see that going on. | ||
| And they're like, shit, I'm not going to opt out. | ||
| I'm just going to go through this thing. | ||
| And I'm going to let my kids go through it, too. | ||
| I think that's what they're trying to get. | ||
| Yeah, no, and then you get the invasive pat down, where you have to put your arms up by your sides, and you put your arms down after a couple minutes because you're tired, and you've just been on a long, or you're about to get on a long flight. | ||
| And they say, sir, hands back up. | ||
| You put them back up. | ||
| And the guy sticks his fingers down your belt. | ||
| Does he do like a scissors on the tip of your dick just a little bit? | ||
| He actually does touch the tip. | ||
| You feel pressure against the tip of your penis. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And that's too much for the government to be doing. | ||
| That's not their role. | ||
| It's great that you're trying to keep us safe and trying to keep airport security at a high level. | ||
| That's not your role. | ||
| Nobody asked you to do that. | ||
| You shouldn't be doing that. | ||
| It's unconstitutional. | ||
| And so every time I'm like, should I just go through the fucking scanner and get it over with? | ||
| But every time I go, no, I have to hold to this. | ||
| Because if you give them a pass on this, then at what point do you just lose all of your compass there, you know? | ||
| Yeah, I could see people like pilots and people that actually don't have to go through it, right? | ||
| They have a different line. | ||
| They have a different line. | ||
| And also, if you pay something like $100, you can now get an expedited screening. | ||
| They do a background check beforehand. | ||
| I find that profoundly unconstitutional, too. | ||
| Because you're classing citizens. | ||
| What is this, the Titanic? | ||
| If you have extra disposable income, we're not going to screen you as closely as the masses. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| I couldn't agree more. | ||
| I think it's so weird. | ||
| I was in line the other day, and I was really tempted to do it because this dude just, there's a big-ass line. | ||
| This dude just walked in with that pre and snuck right through. | ||
| Didn't even have to take his shoes off. | ||
| It was like, but I was like, what kind of access do they have when you, what do they look for when you go and submit something like that? | ||
| You have to listen to your cell phone 24-7. | ||
| Yeah, is that what you're agreeing to? | ||
| Just so you can make sure. | ||
| Just about anyway. | ||
| Is that really happening? | ||
| So the NSA thing, there was a video about this on the New York Times website recently. | ||
| It was an amazing video. | ||
| It was like eight and a half minutes long, professionally produced, where they interviewed the NSA whistleblower, who everybody's kind of heard something about, but you don't know his actual, you know, what he's saying happened. | ||
| And this video lays it all out there. | ||
| It's amazing journalism. | ||
| I don't know why the New York Times didn't put it on their homepage where it belonged, but it still got out there. | ||
| It was on Reddit and all these social media sites. | ||
| And they did a good job of showing people that, I'll just boil it down. | ||
| This NSA whistleblower, his name is William Binney. | ||
| And he was at that agency for 32 years. | ||
| And he was actually the technical director there. | ||
| So he was pretty high up. | ||
| He wasn't like just an analyst or a janitor or something. | ||
| He knew what was going on. | ||
| And he's about as high up as you can get. | ||
| And so he says that after 9-11, the NSA went from using their incredible power to monitor stuff overseas, which is their mandate to do that, tap into satellite phones and tap in overseas internet traffic and all that stuff. | ||
| They went from doing that to turning this incredible surveillance weapon against our own people. | ||
| And it became a full-blown effort to record pretty much Everything that we're doing here in the U.S. And that includes every citizen who has access to the internet or a cell phone. | ||
| And the way they get around this, because it appears to be blatantly unconstitutional, the Fourth Amendment, against unreasonable searches and seizures, they have an interpretation from what the whistleblower was saying in this video or from the article. | ||
| They have an interpretation that we're not actually violating your Fourth Amendment rights because we're only taking this information in and storing it in our databases. | ||
| We're not actually, there's nobody with a pair of headphones and a computer screen in front of them who's watching you type every email and actually looking through all of your stuff. | ||
| We're just saving this. | ||
| The problem with that is it's saved and it's tied to your name. | ||
| And all they have to do, it's not a big logical leap to think, if you're running for Congress, you might be running on a platform where you want to defund some of these programs, they go, let's look into this guy, you know? | ||
| They type in your name, and they suddenly see all of your emails, all of your phone calls, all of your associations, because that's part of what it does. | ||
| It does threading and shows your community, who you talk to online, who you call on your cell phone. | ||
| Supposedly that's what this thing is capable of. | ||
| So it shows them all this information, and they can cherry-pick. | ||
| Maybe they go through an email from three years ago where jokingly I said with a friend, yeah, dude, fuck the U.S. You know, and then they just quote that. | ||
| They go, should this guy be running for Congress, you know, and like bring bogus charges against you? | ||
| There are so many ways they can screw you over when they have access to all of your information. | ||
| And so people out there go, they're not watching me. | ||
| And that's true. | ||
| Nobody with a pair of headphones is listening to your every word on the cell phone. | ||
| That's not how this is working. | ||
| Instead, it's being archived and giving them tremendous access to screw you over should you become a problem to them. | ||
| I think, again, that's a power the government shouldn't have. | ||
| I couldn't agree more. | ||
| And the government shouldn't want it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think the real issue is that we've developed an us versus them divide between the government and the people. | ||
| And it shouldn't be that at all. | ||
| It shouldn't be them defending their power position. | ||
| It should be they are us, and they are our representatives because they are us, and they're looking out for us legitimately. | ||
| And clearly that's been corrupted. | ||
| And that's not good for them. | ||
| It's not good for the people that are perpetrating this. | ||
| It's not good for you either, man. | ||
| You might be profiting off of it, but it's horrible for your life. | ||
| That's the only ray of, really the only ray of light here is that this program is so vast and Orwellian, to be honest, if what this whistleblower says is true, it's so vast that it's also archiving information on senators and representatives and FBI agents, people at the very top of government. | ||
| And those people don't really want that. | ||
| They don't want for some agency that's basically unaccountable to be able to screw them over at any point in the future. | ||
| So I think that's kind of the thing there that might save us in the end, is that some powerful people in DC might say, wait a second, this is totally ridiculous. | ||
| Well, I had always said that at the end of this technology connection that we have, it's going to rush upon us so quickly that you're not even going to know what hit you. | ||
| And then at a certain point in time, there will be no more privacy. | ||
| It won't exist. | ||
| And that would be something that you can get used to if it was two ways. | ||
| I no longer have any privacy. | ||
| This is the 21st century. | ||
| The government knows what I'm walking around on the sidewalk, and I better not be committing a crime against anybody else. | ||
| But in exchange, I want to see where our money's going. | ||
| I want to see why we need to still be in Afghanistan. | ||
| I want to see why you're funding a multi-billion dollar storage facility in Utah, which the NSA is going to be using to store all this data. | ||
| I want to see the numbers. | ||
| So this is going on right now. | ||
| It's absolutely happening right now. | ||
| It's not a plan. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Can you actually bring up the New York Times video? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Can you bring it up, Brian, so we can see it on the screen? | ||
| I'll try. | ||
| It's called The Program. | ||
| Dude, you're freaking me out, by the way. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| This is like the first time. | ||
| I was hoping this would be a good opportunity to talk about this stuff. | ||
| What's it called again? | ||
| Say it again. | ||
| What's it called again? | ||
| The article is called The Program. | ||
| Just search for the program, William Binney, New York Times. | ||
| You've described it better than any I've heard anybody describe it in the most honest and ominous way. | ||
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Right. | |
| Well, that's the thing about this, is it's not that right now. | ||
| By the way, the NSA supposedly employs more people than the CIA and the FBI combined. | ||
| So when people say they don't have the capacity to spy on you, actually they do. | ||
| They have the funding and they have the employees to do it. | ||
| And no, like they really aren't listening in on your every word like a Jason Bourne movie. | ||
| What they're doing. | ||
| There's the video. | ||
| And this is in Bluffdale, Utah, for folks that are looking at home or just looking at some frozen landscape. | ||
| And it says, following 9-11, the National Security Agency began a top-secret surveillance program to spy on U.S. citizens without warrants. | ||
| Code named Stellar Wind or the program to insiders, the full scope of the surveillance has not been made public. | ||
| It is raining. | ||
| In Severn, Maryland, there's a man who's doing heroin. | ||
| No, he needs glasses. | ||
| He's breaking different codes and data systems. | ||
| He's an NSA whistleblower. | ||
| Doing data on Benny. | ||
| The Soviet Union. | ||
| Benny worked at the NSA for 32 years. | ||
| He is regarded as one of the best mathematicians and code breakers in the NSA's history. | ||
| After 9-11, they took one of the programs I had done, or the back-end part of it, and started to use it to spy on everybody in this country. | ||
| So that was a program they created called Stellar Wind. | ||
| That was separate and compartmented from the regular activity that was ongoing because it was doing domestic spying. | ||
| All the equipment was coming in. | ||
| I knew something was happening. | ||
| But then when the contractors I had hired came and told me what they were doing, it was clear where all the hardware was going and what they were using it to do. | ||
| It was simply a different input. | ||
| Instead of being foreign, it was domestic input. | ||
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Somebody told me that they can listen to what we're saying by having this even if it's turned off. | |
| Yes. | ||
| Here's the real grand design. | ||
| Every domain, think of a domain as an activity, a specific type of activity. | ||
| Phone calls. | ||
| Or banking is another Domain. | ||
| So if you think of graphing each domain and then each graph and turning it in the third dimension, the trick now is to map through all the domains in that third dimension, pulling together all the attributes that any individual has in every domain. | ||
| So that now I can pull your entire life together from all those domains and map it out and show your entire life over time. | ||
| Jesus Christ, this is crazy. | ||
| Should we watch this whole thing? | ||
| Oh, let's watch a little bit more. | ||
| More frozen landscape. | ||
| The NSA is currently building the country's biggest data storage facility in Bluffdale, Utah. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta watch the next two minutes because he talks about when the FBI raided him. | ||
| So. | ||
| Benny calculates the facility as a capacity to store 100 years worth of the world's electronic communications. | ||
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I don't understand why you're not raiding. | |
| Why should I be? | ||
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I don't because if what you're saying was possible, it would be revolutionary and people would have a vested interest in preventing that from happening. | |
| I'm too old. | ||
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I'm too old. | |
| Whoa. | ||
| That I'm too old. | ||
| That's a scary thing to say. | ||
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I'm not sure how many of you got a chance to hear Keith Alexander yesterday, the head of the NSA, talk about the NSA's activities. | |
| Bill, how do you reconcile, is there some way to reconcile General Alexander's statement that the NSA isn't keeping track of every American with the existence of a facility like the one in Utah? | ||
| NSA's charter, and it was a legitimate one, was to do foreign intelligence, and I was with that all the way, and I did the best I could in that job. | ||
| Unfortunately, they took those programs that I built and turned them on you, and I'm sorry for that. | ||
| I didn't intend that. | ||
| But they did that. | ||
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What you're describing really is hard to reconcile with the laws, as the laws are generally understood by the lawyers who work with them. | |
| Most people are familiar with the Webster's definition of intercept. | ||
| USID 18 has a different definition, and that's an intercept doesn't take place until it's actually listened to, until somebody puts on some earphones or actually reads some text on a screen. | ||
| So you can pull in all the communications you want. | ||
| The acquisition isn't the search. | ||
| The querying later on is the search. | ||
| They can then keep it in their database and target after the fact by going back and conducting data mining searches afterward, in other words, to get the information that they couldn't target from the outset. | ||
| And there is another real problem. | ||
| Unfortunately, the software will, once it takes in data, it will build profiles on everybody in that data. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I really feel like Olive. | ||
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The purpose is to be able to monitor. | |
| That's all they're going to know about me. | ||
| Sorry to bring the vibe down by recommending this video, by the way. | ||
| Well, it's not bringing the vibe down. | ||
| This has been haunting my dreams. | ||
| Like, this is real. | ||
| Yeah, but do you think most people have to worry about this, like caring that they do this about? | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
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Turn this down. | |
| And if you carry it over time from 2001 up, you have that 10 years worth of their life that you could lay out in a timeline. | ||
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That involves anybody in the country. | |
| Even senators and House of Representatives, all of them. | ||
| The dangers here are that we fall into something like a totalitarian state like East Germany. | ||
| In July 2007, the FBI raided the homes of Benny and two other NSA whistleblowers. | ||
| Well, they came in guns drawn, you know, in my house. | ||
| They didn't do that to the others, but they did to me. | ||
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I guess I don't know. | |
| They thought I was probably the most dangerous of all, so I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what was in their mind. | ||
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It's okay. | |
| So, but they did that, and they came in and pointed a gun at me when I was getting out of the shower at the time, so they pointed a gun right at my old head, you know, and said, hey. | ||
| So, Jesus Christ. | ||
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I wasn't too upset. | |
| I just said, yeah, I suppose I could get dressed here. | ||
| They weren't intimidating me anyway. | ||
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Tell me something that will implicate somebody in a crime. | |
| That's what they asked me. | ||
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So I told them what the crime was that I knew about. | |
| And that was that George Bush, Dick Cheney, Tennant, and Hayden conspired to subvert the constitution, the constitutional process, and any number of laws. | ||
| And here's how they did it. | ||
| And I explained Stellar Wind on my back porch to all the FBI agents who weren't cleared. | ||
| So they had a problem. | ||
| I created a problem for them because they had a bunch of people now who weren't cleared for a very highly classified, only because it was domestic spying, by the way, was the reason it was highly classified. | ||
| They wanted to highly classify the extreme impeachable crimes that they were committing. | ||
| Top Justice Department officials threatened to resign in 2004 because Stellar Wind violated the law. | ||
| Their legal objections to the program are not. | ||
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It needs to be out of the open. | |
| We should take turns in. | ||
| Democracy, we need to say do we want our government to have this data or not? | ||
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And if so, if we want them to have it, then what kind of controls? | |
| And they have to be a little bit more visible. | ||
| It can't all be done in secret. | ||
| You can't have secret interpretations of laws and run them in secret and not tell anybody. | ||
| Or can't make up kill lists and not tell anybody what the criteria is for being a kill list. | ||
| Okay, it's raining again. | ||
| That's very, very disturbing. | ||
| That just really fucked my head sideways. | ||
| Yeah, well, when I saw that, my initial reaction was, why isn't this on the homepage of the New York Times? | ||
| Like, they're putting their name behind this. | ||
| This is real journalism. | ||
| It just came out like last week. | ||
| This should be everywhere. | ||
| That's the problem I have, by the way, with some of the mainstream media. | ||
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People have tweeted this video out to everybody. | |
| It's gotten out in the media, and for some reason, they're like, oh, this isn't news. | ||
| We're just going to run with Kim Kardashian was stumbling out of some nightclub. | ||
| And by the way, they might be spying on every single person, but it's not important. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Well, it's not they might be. | ||
| It seems like they are. | ||
| The only credibility issue is it comes down to do you believe William Benny and the other whistleblower, Thomas Drake? | ||
| If this guy is full of shit, then the whole story is called into question. | ||
| But the problem is he was very high-ranking. | ||
| He was there for 32 years, and they don't let psychos work at the NSA. | ||
| They do some pretty serious psychological background stuff, from what I understand. | ||
| The other thing on top of that is this guy was a respected, brilliant mathematician. | ||
| He's like a John Nash. | ||
| This isn't some dumb dude who got caught up in some paranoia. | ||
| It's more like, although I guess John Nash did exactly Do that. | ||
| But the point is, he's a very smart guy. | ||
| He was working at a high level. | ||
| And despite how intelligent he is, he realized: wait a second, this is just profoundly wrong. | ||
| And it's not our mandate. | ||
| It's not what we should be doing. | ||
| And I love the fact that he explained it all to the cops as they arrested him. | ||
| That's the other thing. | ||
| FBI agents are already pretty high up in terms of clearance level. | ||
| And the fact that it blew their minds, and they're like, wait, what is this Stellar Wind program? | ||
| That's scary stuff. | ||
| Yeah, it is scary stuff. | ||
| And the beautiful thing is when he does explain them, I mean, if you listen to that guy talk, when he did explain it to them, I'm sure it made a lot of them question why they were arresting him and question whether or not he was in fact a patriot and not a bad guy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, why are you not a man? | ||
| By the way, that's a red flag word. | ||
| Why is this old man in the shower a threat to our security? | ||
| Yeah, it's ridiculous. | ||
| I mean, because he's a super mathematician. | ||
| What is he? | ||
| A fucking Batman comic book character? | ||
| He's going to fucking develop some mathematical formula to overthrow the world by hacking into your email account. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Yeah, that video has been haunting my dreams, though. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| And it's been like, it's kind of, it tells you about your friends. | ||
| Like, I've been emailing it to people. | ||
| And when I get an email back saying, holy shit, that's terrifying. | ||
| Like, good thing you're running for Congress. | ||
| Ha ha. | ||
| And then I'm like, I'm like. | ||
| You're screwed. | ||
| There are real stakes involved. | ||
| People don't get it. | ||
| Like, if you want to keep the same representatives you have now who are supportive of this stuff, good luck. | ||
| Well, the point is. | ||
| Sorry, to catch you. | ||
| Sometimes you get an email back or somebody's like, whatever, dude. | ||
| They just don't care. | ||
| And I'm like, how far gone are you that you don't care about this? | ||
| Yeah, those people are silly. | ||
| I care about it, but I don't think I do anything really insanely wrong where I'm fearing it. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I mean, I don't think it's that big of a deal. | ||
| It sucks if it's true. | ||
| I wish I would say no, don't do it. | ||
| Okay, right. | ||
| But let me paint a scenario for you. | ||
| Let me paint a scenario for you. | ||
| Since you always date all these lovely ladies. | ||
| What if one of your lovely ladies had come in? | ||
| You got to take a leak? | ||
| What if one of your lovely ladies had come in contact with a certain politician who had a very high-ranking position, and this guy just decided that he wanted to bang your wife, so he gets you locked up and put in jail, and you have no recourse. | ||
| And he pulls up some email where you said, you know, something crazy, you know, 10 years ago, joking and completely trolling. | ||
| But because of the fact that he actually has this written down into your name, they can arrest you. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| It is insane, but it's something that they would be able to do. | ||
| Yeah, but that's crazy. | ||
| You know, I was watching CNN the other night. | ||
| It's not that crazy. | ||
| And this is why. | ||
| I was watching CNN the other night, and they had a guy who is a cop who is under questioning for two people's deaths. | ||
| And they think he might have been like a sometime serial killer. | ||
| And that this cop, there's two people that disappeared. | ||
| And he had the same story for both of them. | ||
| That he had dropped them off at the Circle K. And one of them was a Mexican guy who couldn't speak English. | ||
| And the other one was this black guy. | ||
| And they think that this cop might have killed these people. | ||
| And why did he do it? | ||
| Because he could. | ||
| Because he could. | ||
| Because he had the power. | ||
| He's in that position. | ||
| He had a gun pull over. | ||
| The lights go on. | ||
| He calls in the thing. | ||
| He calls in the car and said that he had two totally different stories. | ||
| In one story, he found the car abandoned. | ||
| And in the other story, he actually did a background check on the guy. | ||
| So he actually called in a background check. | ||
| The whole thing is the guy turns out missing. | ||
| And he has this kakamami story about taking the guy to the Circle K and calling the Circle K, and that record's not on his phone. | ||
| He has an official phone. | ||
| What I'm saying is that this guy was a cop that just decided to kill people. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he had the power. | ||
| If you get some guy, some high position of power, one of those little sweet pieces of ass that you carry around, dude, you never know. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| Motherfucker might just turn on. | ||
| You can't let someone. | ||
| You cannot let someone have that kind of power. | ||
| There's no reason for it. | ||
| There's plenty of recourse right now if someone does something wrong. | ||
| We don't need to up the amount of power that the government has over us. | ||
| I guess I have way big of a, I have a positive, not that negative feeling. | ||
| You're probably being delusional. | ||
| Yeah, I like being delusional. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| I was in Ohio, which I forgot how bad the police state in Ohio was. | ||
| Like everywhere you go, you saw cops. | ||
| On an hour drive from Columbus to Dayton, I had seven cop cars pulled on the side of the road with the guns pointing at your cars, you know, that smooth trap thing. | ||
| Seven. | ||
| And then one night I was hanging out with Burke Kreischer at his shows. | ||
| I did it at a spot. | ||
| And I had a couple drinks, you know, at the show. | ||
| I was going to go to McDonald's and go to my hotel. | ||
| So I go to McDonald's, go through the drive-thru. | ||
| I'm going to park my car, you know, to eat it. | ||
| And the parking lot was too crowded for McDonald's. | ||
| So there was like another parking lot attached to it. | ||
| It was like a big boy that was, and it was closed. | ||
| So I just pull right through, you know, right out of the drive-thru, right into it, you know, with my lights on, eating my McGriddle. | ||
| And suddenly two cop cars, both sides, lights on, like, and they're like, sir, what are you doing in your car? | ||
| And I'm like, they're like shining lights on my face. | ||
| And I'm like, I'm eating a McGriddle. | ||
| You know, and I show it to them out the window. | ||
| And they came up to my car and they goes, let me see your license. | ||
| And I showed him my license. | ||
| And it was just like, holy shit, man. | ||
| Like, now what they're going to make me do a drunk test. | ||
| And because I had three beers in the last two hours, like, now I'm ready to do UI because I'm sitting here eating a McGriddle. | ||
| And then he's asking me all these questions, like, what are you doing? | ||
| I'm like, I did comedy tonight at, you know, Funnybone. | ||
| And he goes, he's like, oh, how was it? | ||
| And I'm like, it was fine. | ||
| And he goes, you've been drinking tonight? | ||
| And I go, no. | ||
| That was the first time I ever said no. | ||
| Like, I had three drinks, but I'm like, I'm just going to say no this time because I had McGriddle all over my face. | ||
| And I was still eating when he's asking me these questions. | ||
| I played it off of like, what the fuck are you doing, dude? | ||
| Like, I was like, you know, and so I'm rubbing McGriddle all over my face. | ||
| And he goes, okay, you're free to go. | ||
| And I'm like, free to go for doing what? | ||
| I'm parked in my car eating a McGriddle. | ||
| You came up with me. | ||
| They always make you feel like you're in the wrong, but they let you get away this time. | ||
| And they're us. | ||
| They're us. | ||
| They're not the Illuminati. | ||
| That's what's the most fucked up thing about it. | ||
| You give people arbitrary power over other people. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's why you can't have laws like that, folks. | ||
| Dayton police. | ||
| You can't have it. | ||
| We give you nice things and you break them. | ||
| You can't have that. | ||
| And it's not good for them either. | ||
| It's not good for you to be in a position like that over people. | ||
| It's not good for your karma. | ||
| And at the end of the day, you're unhappy because I've found this. | ||
| If you treat other people in a shitty way, it may be for a short amount of time you get that little ego high. | ||
| But over time, dude, It's like you pay for it. | ||
| It comes back like a waterfall of suck and crushes you with the rebound. | ||
| It always does. | ||
| There's no way to live. | ||
| These people. | ||
| And by the way, that's not the only way to get rich. | ||
| Look at Ted Turner. | ||
| I bet that guy's got plenty of money, right? | ||
| He actually owns CNN. | ||
| Yeah, but he's beat. | ||
| No, no, he's out. | ||
| I think he's disgusted with it. | ||
| Maybe that's why it's so fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, like he sold it to, I guess, like AOL Time Warner became this big thing. | ||
| I shouldn't use him as an example anyway, because quite honestly, I don't really know that much about his past. | ||
| but he always seemed like he wasn't a bad guy, just like a smart businessman. | ||
| That's a much better example. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Richard Branner. | ||
| Branson seems like some kind of crazy billionaire in a movie. | ||
| Like, I'm going to get in a balloon and travel the globe. | ||
| I'm going to get a spaceship and go to Mars. | ||
| I mean, he really does seem like that guy. | ||
| Yeah, and he's a fucking super, super, super super. | ||
| Did you read his article about drug policy? | ||
| No, I did not. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Oh, I did. | ||
| On the Virgin corporate website. | ||
| So he puts his corporate name behind it, virgin.com. | ||
| He put this letter saying, you know, we should all look at the Portugal decriminalization project. | ||
| The past 10 years, they're doing decriminalization. | ||
| It works. | ||
| Is this about a year ago he did this? | ||
| Maybe a little bit less than that, around then. | ||
| When he did that, people were like, okay, we have to actually look at this study because he's a serious guy. | ||
| A lot of people don't realize that Portugal decriminalized all drugs. | ||
| Was it a decade ago? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A decade ago, essentially, made it so that everything's legal. | ||
| And what's crazy is that their violent crime has dropped. | ||
| Their rates of addiction have dropped. | ||
| Clinics have less people in them that need help that are addicted. | ||
| It's kind of amazing. | ||
| It's when you let people, you know, you don't try to nanny state the fucking world. | ||
| People have this weird thing where if you tell them they can't do something, they want to do it. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| When something's illegal, it makes it intoxicating. | ||
| It makes it exciting for people. | ||
| Well, and there are also some things that are so good that even if they're illegal, you're going to try it anyway. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Booze. | ||
| I mean, they tried that. | ||
| They tried, you know, for the best. | ||
| What a fuck up that was. | ||
| That's another example of legislation where you have good intentions, but nobody did the math on it. | ||
| And really not even good intentions, because you can't tell people what to ingest in the privacy of their own home. | ||
| I understand their point. | ||
| I understand the point of the really clean, straight-edge people. | ||
| I have friends that are straight-edge. | ||
| But it's fine. | ||
| They shouldn't have to impose it on the whole country. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| But what they think is that it worked for them, and there's no way it could be different for you. | ||
| In your case, if you're drinking, if you like to go out and do shots and hang out with Burt Kreischer, you're having a problem. | ||
| You've got a problem. | ||
| And, you know, obviously I don't agree with that, but I see where their intentions come from. | ||
| I see why they wanted to try to do it in the first place. | ||
| They wanted to try to clean up America. | ||
| America, even back then, in the 1920s, was filled with sin. | ||
| It was the roaring 20s. | ||
| Everybody was fucking nuts. | ||
| They were having these speakeasies. | ||
| They get together and bang. | ||
| It was craziness. | ||
| They were animals. | ||
| It looked pretty awesome, actually. | ||
| Looked fucking fantastic. | ||
| No texting. | ||
| All you can have to say is, I don't know what she's talking about. | ||
| And you were done. | ||
| You were out of it. | ||
| There was no age though. | ||
| That ain't my kid. | ||
| You agreed to meet somebody and you just met them. | ||
| There was no last-minute changes. | ||
| And how do you meet them again? | ||
| You have to find where they live. | ||
| That's why cities were so beneficial. | ||
| There was no communication. | ||
| There's no phones. | ||
| You had to find where they lived. | ||
| I don't know how people got around before. | ||
| How do people get around before the maps on phones? | ||
| Well, I remember living in Boston and meeting people and walking everywhere. | ||
| I mean, I remember when I was a kid from high school on, like, we fucking walked everywhere. | ||
| We would walk like miles to the T, to the train to get into Boston. | ||
| We would just walk miles. | ||
| Kids today don't do that kind of shit. | ||
| There's no kids walking miles. | ||
| They're texting each other. | ||
| They don't have to go and meet each other in person. | ||
| They don't have to go and hope they run into each other. | ||
| We didn't even have answering machines. | ||
| You call people if they weren't home. | ||
| Tough shit. | ||
| It's been a weird thing for me as a human being to have come of age, to be a teenager with the invention of the answering machine and seeing that and going, wow, I mean, somebody can fucking leave a message and you're not even here? | ||
| Like, what a mind-blower that was for me to seeing this video of what kind of information is being and how much they can know about you. | ||
| Every credit card transaction. | ||
| Well, I think that's the other thing about your saying earlier about like, were things really, maybe things were just as bad back then, but we didn't know about it because we didn't have the internet. | ||
| I think part of it is maybe they wanted this kind of thing, but they just didn't have the technology to do it. | ||
| To pull it off. | ||
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| It would just be impossible. | ||
| To do this thing would require hiring millions of operators, and you just, you can't do that. | ||
| But it's an example of the ethic that's always been there. | ||
| It's the us versus them mentality. | ||
| That is accelerating because of the fact there's so much civil uprising around the world. | ||
| I mean, we really are getting to this really ridiculous point where, you know, the Mayan apocalypse date of 2012, the December 21st date, it's completely ridiculous that these guys had figured out when the world was going to fall apart. | ||
| Yet, how weird is it that the world is fucking falling apart and it's closing in on that day? | ||
| Did you hear how many earthquakes we had yesterday? | ||
| Hundreds. | ||
| Hundreds of earthquakes. | ||
| There was one area that had hundreds of earthquakes. | ||
| I think we actually have like, I think the U.S. has a really bright future, but I think it's kind of all a house of cards. | ||
| Like you have to be very careful. | ||
| You start pulling out certain cards and undermining faith in certain things, and before you know it, you don't have a society anymore. | ||
| You have, you know, what the Mayans experienced when their society vanished or broke down or whatever the hell happened to them. | ||
| Yeah, it's not just that these people shouldn't be corrupt. | ||
| It's that when you are corrupt and when you are in a position where you are not looking out for the greater good of mankind, you're ruining the entire process of acceleration. | ||
| You're ruining it and subverting it and making it a selfish thing and making all the things that don't get corrected as we move forward. | ||
| It's like, say, if you were a little kid and you just decided you were going to shit in the middle of your bedroom because you didn't feel like going to the bathroom. | ||
| You have your own choice. | ||
| Nobody could tell you what to do. | ||
| So you just say, you're five. | ||
| You're like, I'm just going to shit right here. | ||
| You pull your pants down and shit, and then you make a little pile in your bathroom, and then you always think you're going to clean up, but you never get around to it. | ||
| I mean, that's essentially what the human race is to the world. | ||
| We're just leaving shit places and just assuming we're eventually going to get to some point we're going to clean it up. | ||
| Instead of dealing with it first and foremost, before we start fucking around with the governments in other parts of the world, and before we start fucking around with tapping people's phones, let's figure out a way how to get oil out of the fucking ocean without killing everything. | ||
| Let's figure out a way to let the dolphins live and not have shrimp be fucking poison. | ||
| Let's figure out a way to not put an entire economy out of work because you fucking assholes wanted to finish your drill early so you use cheaper parts or a less stringent setup. | ||
| How about get on that first and then let's invade Iran. | ||
| That's the other thing that outrages me so much. | ||
| You see a video like that? | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And it's not only like, okay, they're violating our rights and there are creepy implications for how this could be used at some point, but this is a colossal waste of money. | ||
| This is billions and billions of dollars and this is only one program that we know about. | ||
| We don't know what other creepy programs are out there right now. | ||
| And that same amount of money could be used on things where you see a real tangible impact on people's communities. | ||
| Like teachers don't get paid well. | ||
| Cops don't get paid well. | ||
| No. | ||
| And maybe if we paid people better and had better incentives, we would get better people. | ||
| That's how it is in every other industry. | ||
| And it should be an honorable position. | ||
| I've always said that. | ||
| Being a teacher should be a position of respect and honor in this country. | ||
| And it should be something that's very difficult to achieve. | ||
| We should know that you are of great character, that you're a good person, that you're looking at life in the right direction. | ||
| You're not a creepy pervert. | ||
| We should know all these things about you, and we should respect the fact that you're going to be spending time with our kids. | ||
| And someone who's spending time with your kids has profound influence when they're teaching them things. | ||
| It's really dangerous. | ||
| You can't even put a money, you can't even put a price on the impact you can have, either good or bad. | ||
| I had a civics teacher in seventh grade. | ||
| He's part of the reason why I'm interested in politics today because he did this crazy experiment that I feel like every teacher should do. | ||
| We were in a private school at the time, so you're allowed to get away with more stuff. | ||
| In a public school, he probably would have been sued. | ||
| But what he did, we walked into class one day. | ||
| It just seemed like a normal class, right? | ||
| And we walk into class, and he says, okay, if you have brown eyes, if you have brown eyes, sit in the front two rows. | ||
| If you have blue eyes, I want you in the back of the room. | ||
| And he just segregated us by eye color. | ||
| And at first, people were like, okay, this is some kind of joke, you know? | ||
| He's just messing around. | ||
| And he'd say, you, and call on somebody with brown eyes and give them preferential treatment over the blue eyes. | ||
| I think I'm actually messing this up. | ||
| I think it was the other way around. | ||
| Like, people who have blue eyes. | ||
| Dosa is good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| If you looked Aryan, you were in the front. | ||
| And if you didn't, you were in the back. | ||
| And so he starts asking his questions. | ||
| And whenever somebody in the back was asked a question, answered, he'd say, no, that's wrong. | ||
| You obviously didn't do the homework last night. | ||
| You have to read up. | ||
| Even if it was a great answer, and it was starting to fuck with people mentally, where these people were getting better treatment than the people in the back based entirely on eye color. | ||
| By the end of that class, there were girls crying and guys too. | ||
| People were crying. | ||
| Bitches, that's what's up. | ||
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| And they were like, is this real? | ||
| Like, what's wrong with this guy? | ||
| Why is he doing this? | ||
| My answer was good. | ||
| And then at the end, he told us he was just running an exercise to show us what it's like when you have inequality. | ||
| And for somebody who's like a suburban white kid, you're like, that must suck to feel that all the time. | ||
| It's a deep experiment. | ||
| I think every teacher should do that. | ||
| And that wasn't the only thing he did, but the point is he had a profound impact, and he probably made a very small amount of money for doing it. | ||
| That's a beautiful idea, man. | ||
| That's a beautiful way of pointing it out. | ||
| Show it to people, let them know that it was just an act, but show them what is possible. | ||
| You know, there's a lot of racism in this country that's undeniable, and it's one of the grossest things about human beings. | ||
| But classism, all that shit is just as bad. | ||
| Any distinction where you automatically put someone in a designated marginalized. | ||
| I've met some rich people who suck, and I met some really rich people who are just amazing. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| You don't judge somebody by their income. | ||
| I've always been offended at people that think you're an idiot because you exercise. | ||
| I've had so many fucking stupid conversations with people that are like, yeah, go work in your body, meathead. | ||
| I'm like, oh, yeah, come on, man. | ||
| You got to stay in shape. | ||
| Why does that marginalize me because I'm in shape? | ||
| Everybody that lifts weights has to be a moron. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Is that convenient for you? | ||
| You don't have to compete? | ||
| Certainly not good for evolution. | ||
| It's so ridiculous. | ||
| People are just slowly trying to stop what is inevitable. | ||
| They're clawing at what is inevitable. | ||
| And what's inevitable is ultimate accountability for everything, all of your actions. | ||
| And then it's eventually going to move from that to being your very thoughts. | ||
| There's going to be the next phase of technology unquestionably is going to be some sort of fucking interface where people are going to be able to read each other's minds or communicate without any sort of noise coming out of your mouth. | ||
| I think that is 100% coming. | ||
| I think we're going to be able to communicate things in visual form as well. | ||
| I think you're going to be able to communicate memories eventually. | ||
| You're going to be able to lock heads with someone and show them your day. | ||
| And I don't think that's outside. | ||
| And I think your memory is going to be more phenomenal than the current fucking weird slideshow that you have now. | ||
| Blurry images that you barely can remember. | ||
| I mean, just what I did today. | ||
| If you ask me what exactly happened from the moment you woke up, can you remember every, I remember playing with my kids. | ||
| I remember getting in my car. | ||
| This blocks, little flashes, little slideshows. | ||
| You'll be able to pull all that shit. | ||
| You'll be able to pull every second. | ||
| That software is going to make it probably. | ||
| Google goggles, bitch. | ||
| No, no, that software we just watched that video on the New York Times. | ||
| It's probably going to be like, you want to see my day? | ||
| Here's an exact DVR of my day, but I edited out like two hours of poop. | ||
| Of me beating off on the toilet with two q-tips. | ||
| That's the ultimate sin. | ||
| Beating off on the toilet while you have a q-tip in your ear. | ||
| That shit's so bad for you, man. | ||
| You're taking this shit, rub it. | ||
| Q-tips? | ||
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| They're terrible for you, man. | ||
| You need to just get it done once. | ||
| I love my tips. | ||
| No, I know I do. | ||
| You've got some time. | ||
| Yeah, you shouldn't be digging in your ears. | ||
| What are you supposed to do then? | ||
| Earwax builds up. | ||
| You're supposed to get it cleaned. | ||
| Cleaned out. | ||
| Or they have this ear juice that you can buy it. | ||
| It's like CVS that you put in there. | ||
| It has this little plunger thing. | ||
| But the worst thing, you're not supposed to do that. | ||
| That's why nowhere on the box for a box of Q-tips does it say put this shit in your ear. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It feels so good, though. | ||
| It does. | ||
| Especially while you're taking the shit and beating it off. | ||
| I told you this show. | ||
| I don't know if I told you on a podcast, though. | ||
| My ex, she was cleaning her ear out, and then the phone rang, so she picked it up, and she shoved the Q-tip in her ear, and just started gushing blood and popping your eardrum. | ||
| Yeah, you did talk about this in the podcast. | ||
| You ever watched that Thousand Ways to Die? | ||
| Yes, I love that show. | ||
| You know, the one where she's getting a massage, or no, she's getting acupuncture and rolls off the bed, and like one goes right through her heart. | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| I mean, it has to be real. | ||
| It's A Thousand Ways to Die. | ||
| Man, what kind of, what are they doing? | ||
| Shishkabob needles on this bitch? | ||
| That doesn't even make sense. | ||
| How the fuck can you get killed by an acupuncture? | ||
| What kind of a pussy are you that an acupuncture needle is killing you? | ||
| Just went right through her heart, I guess. | ||
| I almost think that shows, like, creep show, though. | ||
| I almost think that it's like written. | ||
| Bitch! | ||
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Shit. | |
| No. | ||
| But I think they have to be factual, Brian. | ||
|
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Is it? | |
| I think it's based on... | ||
| I think it's supposed to be... | ||
| Yeah, you could die. | ||
| I guess they wouldn't they have that as an option? | ||
| I mean, they'd be crazy if the producers didn't have that as an option. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe you're right. | ||
| Yeah, the acupuncture one doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
| That sounds crazy. | ||
| If it's on true TV, it has to be cupups. | ||
| That just sounds fucking completely ridiculous. | ||
| I don't think the acupuncture needles could kill you like that. | ||
| Because it won't dwindle right through her heart. | ||
| How's it going right through your heart? | ||
| It's going to penetrate all that meat. | ||
| It's going to go through your bone. | ||
| what's it going to do? | ||
| Is it going to find the perfect... | ||
| Maybe she had a baboon heart. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, maybe, maybe, if it fucking, you landed on it perfectly and it didn't bend, maybe. | ||
| But really, I wouldn't think that thing would kill you. | ||
| I wouldn't think that. | ||
| Too little. | ||
| Can I take an alpha brain and see if the next, like, hour is... | ||
| Fuck you, son. | ||
| Go for dose. | ||
| Well, you're already super smart, dude, and you're already so articulate, you're barely going to notice. | ||
| You're too smart already. | ||
| What this is for is mid-level retards like myself that can barely form sentences without it. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I was like, you're a fucking savage. | ||
| He snorted a line of bags. | ||
| Imagine you just started snorting it. | ||
| Is this your alphabet? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| David Seaman, running for Congress, caught snorting drugs in the Joe Rogan Experience podcast. | ||
| Like, no, it's a nootropic. | ||
| It doesn't count. | ||
| David, are you trying to... | ||
| Should it be allowed? | ||
| Next on Nightline. | ||
| Should nootropics be allowed? | ||
| Should we allow people to be smarter than others when they could use it against you? | ||
| They'll have some YouTube video of this 16-year-old. | ||
| Like, I just took a nootropic. | ||
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And like, ah, I'm going to fuck some bitches. | |
| Like, that's what they do with Salvia. | ||
| They totally villainize Salvia. | ||
| Because they're like, we found a couple of dudes on YouTube. | ||
| Millions of people have tried it, and it's legal in a lot of states. | ||
| We found some dudes on YouTube who acted like assholes after they took it. | ||
| Brian's one of them. | ||
| So clearly, that's scientific, clearly based on what a couple of people post on YouTube. | ||
| We have to make this illegal and we have to do a witch hunt against it. | ||
| It's fascinating that it was legal for so long and such a potent psychedelic. | ||
| And I think it's very indicative of the times we live in as people slowly figured that out and started to sell it. | ||
| Because what, I mean, that wasn't around. | ||
| What is it exactly? | ||
| It's sage is what it is. | ||
| The plant sage is this stuff, Salvia Divinorum. | ||
| It's a very target. | ||
| So it's just like an Target? | ||
| The plant form of it. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, they also sell San Pedro cactuses. | ||
| You could buy those anywhere. | ||
| They're not illegal. | ||
| And that's the source of mescaline. | ||
| That's the Indian. | ||
| Like the Carlos Casaneda stuff? | ||
| Well, Terrence McKenna, famously on the big island of Hawaii, had a tropical rainforest garden. | ||
| He lived on the rainforest side where it was beautiful up there, man. | ||
| The pictures of his home was incredible. | ||
| He had this really cool pad he put up there on the island, and it had every psychedelic plant known to man because most of them grow breast in these sort of rainforest environments. | ||
| Breast. | ||
| Breast. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So he had it set up there where he had salvia, he had San Pedro Cactus. | ||
| They're all legal. | ||
| The plant, whatever it is, the Chicotria viritis that they get ayahuasca from. | ||
| All these different plants. | ||
| He had them all growing. | ||
| They were all totally legal. | ||
| And beautiful and fascinating to know that all of these different plants, I mean, even if you just had them as your little plant buddies, you never even smoked them, just kept them in your yard. | ||
| There's something kind of dope knowing that you could literally change your consciousness by some shit that's growing next to your house. | ||
| Knowing that it has that kind of power. | ||
| Yeah, incredible power. | ||
| And salvia is way more potent than a lot of shit that is illegal. | ||
| It's way more potent. | ||
| Salvia is really fucking strong. | ||
| If you get a real good dose of salvia, it removes you from Earth for a short period of time. | ||
| It puts you in this really intense hallucinogenic state. | ||
| Can I admit that I've done salvia? | ||
| I don't think that hurts me. | ||
| I don't think it hurts you. | ||
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No, no. | |
| I did it in a state where it was legal. | ||
| And yeah, it's so short acting. | ||
| It's like five minutes. | ||
| And I collapsed. | ||
| I felt I was actually a sheet of paper, like a cosmic sheet of paper. | ||
| It's weird stuff. | ||
| It's like a whippet of mushrooms. | ||
| Five minutes later, I was back to myself. | ||
| And it's not like you're stuck there for hours, you know? | ||
| I only did it once, and I don't think I did it right, but I did it enough that it was really creepy. | ||
| You could do it live on a podcast, Joe. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think that's fine. | ||
| It's not something you would ever get addicted to, because I was like, all right, cool, did that. | ||
| It took me over my own head, and I was looking down at myself in these pulsating waves to get a new burst, a new image of me looking from over here, like up and to my right, looking down at me. | ||
| And it was like, boom. | ||
| And I would see myself. | ||
| Were you like the Indian gods with all the different hands? | ||
| No, it was just me. | ||
| It was just me. | ||
| I don't think I had enough, like I said, and it didn't last that long. | ||
| It was just a few minutes of an out-of-body experience. | ||
| But I remember thinking, like, how am I even seeing this perspective? | ||
| How am I seeing myself from here? | ||
| Like, this is weird. | ||
| How am I seeing it or am I getting a hallucination of the idea that I'm seeing? | ||
| How crazy is it that you can just walk into a store and buy it legally? | ||
| But my experience, I was still me. | ||
| I was still there. | ||
| I didn't leave the couch. | ||
| I've had people that have taken a lot of it describe like really bizarre. | ||
| Ari Shafir talks about how he lived a whole several month period of his life during a 10-minute Salvia trip. | ||
| He took it and then had all these relationships and friendships and had all this whole different life. | ||
| Like inception, like the different layers where the time gets messed up. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And he said when he came back from this 10-minute trip, this Salvia trip, he had remembered everything, but it was just like coming out of a month of visiting your friends or a month of all of a sudden you're here. | ||
| How did I get here? | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
| I really want to hear him talk about that because that does not sound like a salvia trip at all. | ||
| I know it doesn't, but I don't think they're all uniform. | ||
| I've heard so many, like I said, mine was so simple. | ||
| I definitely didn't have enough because it was just me. | ||
| It was me above me. | ||
| It was weird images of me looking down on me. | ||
| It was nothing. | ||
| I didn't learn shit from it other than like, this is weird. | ||
| But everybody that I know that's had like big ones had taken like big, big experiences. | ||
| I know I didn't get a big enough hit, but I could imagine if it could do that with like the little baby hit that I had where I wasn't even doing it right. | ||
| Apparently you need like one of those blowtorch lighters. | ||
| Track lighter. | ||
| Yeah, you need a blowtorch lighter. | ||
| I had like a Bic and it just wasn't hot enough, so it just kind of tripped me out a little bit. | ||
| But apparently the blowtorch lighter puts you into another fucking dimension. | ||
| Yeah, it has to cook it to a certain temperature in order to get it. | ||
| That's way stronger than weed. | ||
| That's way stronger than weed. | ||
| Right, you can just buy it. | ||
| You can just walk into a gift shop and buy it. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| We need to. | ||
| I mean, that's actually dangerous. | ||
| In the sense that you could be an idiot who walks into a gift shop, buys it for $15, you pop it right there. | ||
| I mean, you smoke it right there. | ||
| Although you can actually, I think, get it as a tea or something. | ||
| You can? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| So I didn't do it as a tea, though. | ||
| I smoked it. | ||
| That tea just scared the shit out of me. | ||
| The idea that you can get that legally and then just walk out in the street, you'll be just run over by a car because you're going to be so out of it. | ||
| Versus, I mean. | ||
| Especially the tea, because who knows how your body is going to process it, whether it's going to process it differently because it's going through the liver and the digestive system as opposed to just going right into the bloodstream with a smoke. | ||
| Now, this isn't you. | ||
| Somebody sent, this is a video of you doing this out. | ||
| This is actually a campaign video. | ||
| This is my next campaign. | ||
| This is David Seaman doing Salvio on the coach. | ||
| Yeah, real conservative. | ||
| With his hippie girlfriend. | ||
| her feet stink. | ||
| What do you want to guess? | ||
| Watch this joke. | ||
| I would not doubt that. | ||
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Do you ever see this joke? | |
| Yeah, I've seen this shit. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That broke the window. | ||
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That's crazy. | |
| It's crazy. | ||
| He's almost not real, dude. | ||
| He was almost like a zombie. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Almost like a zombie. | ||
| It's fake. | ||
| That one's fake. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's fake. | |
| I'm going to say that. | ||
| It's an anti-Salvia video. | ||
| That seems a little over the top. | ||
| Remember the ones that people were just laughing and screaming and stuff. | ||
| That's why I actually made a salvia video, not because... | ||
| Did you think it was cool before it was cool? | ||
| Yeah, no, but there was a few people that did Salvia videos, and it was the funnest videos to watch. | ||
| Like, I was laughing, like, I was addicted. | ||
| It was like dubstep from five years ago. | ||
| And then I just wanted to try it, and then I wanted to make a video of it because it was fun watching yourself do it. | ||
| But now I feel like an asshole for doing it because now every kid's doing it. | ||
| Why do you feel like an asshole? | ||
| Because I don't think that should be legal. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Because I think that fun video that we just watched, that could happen. | ||
| Or somebody could do it while driving or something like that. | ||
| You can't protect the world from idiots, Brian, because then it keeps stuff from you and I. Right, but at least think it should have some kind of 21-year-old rating at least or something. | ||
| Something. | ||
| Parental supervision after 18 years of age or something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To me, that just seems too dangerous. | ||
| Just because I didn't know where I was for seven minutes. | ||
| At the very least, there should be an info packet on the back. | ||
| Like the same way as you take a stupid drug for allergies. | ||
| There's a packet that's like five pages long telling you all the possible reactions and what to do. | ||
| Why not have the same thing for that? | ||
| And listen, this is not like saying that it's a good idea for everybody to do these things because it's not. | ||
| I know a lot of people that can barely handle regular reality and they should not be fucking with salvia or anything. | ||
| So to say that everything should be legal, people should also have people looking out for them. | ||
| People should also have people that they can turn to to be educated on your own choices. | ||
| But I know people that take mushrooms for a goof. | ||
| They just take it for fun. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| There's nothing wrong with that. | ||
| But I think we should have some, if we're going to be an honest society about substances and their effect on people, we've got to be honest about the positive stuff too. | ||
| You've got to be honest not just in people jumping out a window, which is possible, but you've got to also be honest about people who go on mushroom trips and become much better people. | ||
| And that's like a real legitimate phenomenon that's been documented in the John Hopkins study, that people have changed their personality for the better because of one intense mushroom trip that they had, where they experienced profound love and connectivity and all things that people like me and my friends that have had psychedelic experiences have all relayed. | ||
| Everybody relays the same thing. | ||
| It changes who you are. | ||
| It changes the fundamental direction in which your life is going. | ||
| And if we as a culture don't recognize that that is a potential tool to help all of us, including the people that are in extreme positions of power, they would have a better life if they embrace this shit as well. | ||
| Well, you can rule on a deeper level if you had an experience like that. | ||
| You can be more like a Marcus Aurelius, like enlightened despot instead of just a despot, you know? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And really be looking out for the interests of the interests of the people. | ||
| And there's reward in that. | ||
| You only need a certain amount of money, you corrupt cunts. | ||
| You're caught up in a wave of addiction. | ||
| And that addiction is to numbers. | ||
| Because after a certain while, money doesn't mean anything. | ||
| You forget it. | ||
| It is nice to have a nice car. | ||
| It is really nice to live in a place where you can come home and you have a nice couch to sit in and a nice TV to watch and a nice kitchen to cook your food and a nice bed to sleep in. | ||
| But after that, everything else is horseshit. | ||
| Everything else you forget. | ||
| Everything else is like, what do you want? | ||
| A bigger watch? | ||
| You want more expensive shoes? | ||
| Look at the houses the CEO of Goldman Sachs has. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| I wouldn't even want a house that big. | ||
| They're insane people. | ||
| It just seems creepy. | ||
| You need all that space to yourself. | ||
| They have these giant estates that are 30,000 square feet. | ||
| I'd be embarrassed. | ||
| I'd be embarrassed to bring somebody back to that. | ||
| Like, this is my house. | ||
| Because they'd be like, that's mentally ill. | ||
| Like, why do you need this much space? | ||
| You're like a hoarder, but for houses, you know? | ||
| 30,000 square feet. | ||
| The ego behind wanting to have such a big house to represent you is like Vander Holyfield, when he was the heavyweight champion, built this enormous mansion in Atlanta and he couldn't keep it up. | ||
| He wound up, I don't know if he wound up losing it or what, but I remember he was in severe financial straits because it was over a million dollars a year just to run this place. | ||
| Just to run it. | ||
| A million dollars a year. | ||
| Like, ah! | ||
| To keep your fucking lights on and to keep the electricity working. | ||
| It's craziness. | ||
| People that are in that sort of a job, if you're in the job of being like a Goldman Sachs sort of a guy and you have a house like that, it should be evidence of a sickness. | ||
| Someone should come along and go, wait, why do you have Picasso in your house? | ||
| Why do you have all this shit? | ||
| What are you doing with all this shit? | ||
| You just, you're obsessed with acquiring more and bigger shit. | ||
| You want a bigger private jet. | ||
| And that would be fine if it wasn't for you being in the position that you're in. | ||
| You being in a position where you get to manipulate the fucking market and literally change the economy with your corruption and then get rewarded with a taxpayer bailout. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Like, we've never lived in more transparent times of the people at the top of the heap being sick. | ||
| The people at the top of the heap all need to get into a fucking sweat lodge with some native Indians. | ||
| Hey, hey, hey, and they pass around the mescaline. | ||
| Well, it's also like the role of that person has changed. | ||
| Now he's isolated in his huge 30,000 square foot mansion away from normal people. | ||
| I think just a generation ago, I mean, I'm only basing this on some stuff I've read and Mad Men, which is not accurate at all. | ||
| I mean, just basing it on what I've heard from my parents and what I've read about, if you were the CEO of a company, you also felt like you had some kind of role within the community. | ||
| You didn't want to be known as a scumbag or like whoever the Enron guy was. | ||
| That wasn't the end goal was to con thousands of people out of their retirements. | ||
| You're supposed to be this kind of innovator that people respected. | ||
| And yeah, you made more money than that. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Like you were making more money than them because you're actually doing more and making it happen. | ||
| But at the end of the day, you didn't want to just conn everybody and live hundreds of miles away from them. | ||
| You know, you wanted to be a part of the society. | ||
| Conn is a good word. | ||
| Yeah, there's no reason for them to be making that kind of money doing what they're doing anyway. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| You're not providing anything real. | ||
| You're moving numbers around, you crazy assholes. | ||
| Why are so many of them going to you? | ||
| Can I play devil's advocate on this? | ||
| I do. | ||
| Because I have some friends who work in finance. | ||
| And although I agree with you, it seems like it's not the best use of our resources, especially when you have the absolute smartest people out of college getting recruited to these firms instead of going to NASA or going into medicine or any of these other fields. | ||
| It's money. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But to play Devil's Advocate, a few hundred years ago, we explored the whole world and did a lot of crazy stuff over spices. | ||
| And today spices are taken for granted. | ||
| You know, you walk over to Target and buy some spices. | ||
| But back then, they would conquer people. | ||
| They would build ships. | ||
| They would chart out the whole globe with these sophisticated maps, stuff that had never been done before, all about bringing spices back. | ||
| And maybe today, like, yeah, it's bullshit that these guys on computers are fighting each other for imaginary money. | ||
| But maybe at the end of the day, it's also improving our technology in ways that we haven't anticipated. | ||
| I read an article about that, that trading now is so high frequency that they have companies that build private radio networks just to get the trade out there like a tenth of a second faster. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Whole companies. | ||
| There's a stock exchange in Chicago, the Mercantile Exchange, and it has to communicate with the New York Stock Exchange. | ||
| And there are private companies that will feed that data back and forth over a private microwave network. | ||
| It's a series of relays, the direct line of microwave or whatever. | ||
| And the benefit it provides them is literally within the milliseconds. | ||
| But that difference, when you're dealing with thousands of trades and billions of dollars, it ends up being profitable to do that stuff. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| I definitely can see that point. | ||
| But my point is that we should never have a society that's based on the confidence in different options and stocks and companies. | ||
| It's based on confidence and it flows and waves. | ||
| All that shit is scary. | ||
| It's terrifying. | ||
| All that shit is terrifying. | ||
| I read a Matt Taibbi article on the actual derivative economy being something like 10 times larger than the, you know, the speculative economy is 10 times larger than the actual economy. | ||
| If we get enough bad bets, everything goes down. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And it's not necessary. | ||
| It is a symptom of a corrupt time. | ||
| We need to abandon it. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| This whole Federal Reserve thing is nuts. | ||
| All that shit is nuts. | ||
| We need to figure out some way where we can trade resources in a fair way. | ||
| We need to figure that out. | ||
| And we're not going to figure that out while these monsters have a death grip on the economy. | ||
| Because that's what we're running into. | ||
| These big banks are 100 times more oppressive than the big government. | ||
| And we see what the big government's doing. | ||
| Well, the big banks, they're just clawing and sucking and biting your neck. | ||
| They're just trying to suck all the blood out of you they can. | ||
| And they're terrified of any sort of rebellion. | ||
| And that's why Bank of America retracted their $5 ATM fee. | ||
| Oh, that was... | ||
| And people were pissed. | ||
| And then it's like, well, what about the $700, if you're a working couple, it's something like $700 a month of the money you pay in taxes is going to war effort and all that stuff? | ||
| It's like, why aren't you protesting about these things? | ||
| Is it something where if it doesn't immediately affect your purchase at Starbucks, you're not willing to talk about it? | ||
| But if you can see it so tangibly that you're like, fuck, there's $5 less of my account, then you go out and you're like, no, we're switching to a credit union. | ||
| But the other stuff doesn't bother you. | ||
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It's pretty weird. | |
| Take your money. | ||
| Take the money. | ||
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Pick it. | |
| Pick it. | ||
| I was only kidding. | ||
| I was only joking. | ||
| Don't need it. | ||
| That was creepy, though. | ||
| They held firm for a little while. | ||
| They're like, this is our policy. | ||
| If you want to leave, that's fine. | ||
| This is our policy. | ||
| Then they realized this is a serious issue. | ||
| And around the same time, this is underreported. | ||
| Their website was inaccessible for almost a whole week. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Is that a DDOS? | ||
| No, they never said it was a denial of service, and nobody ever took responsibility for it. | ||
| You would think if somebody took down Bank of America, they'd say, yo, we did this, right? | ||
| But what actually happened is it just was not working. | ||
| And Bank of America said we're having service issues. | ||
| And it was never properly, No journalists properly looked into this. | ||
| I don't know what the cause was, but I know it did not appear to be an attack of any kind. | ||
| It appeared to be a technical problem. | ||
| And there are some people who wondered: is Bank of America trying to slow what is basically a run on the bank? | ||
| Because there are a lot of people who saw the articles about the $5 debit card thing, like, fuck this. | ||
| I'm just going to move my money out and go to another bank. | ||
| And they were trying to do it online. | ||
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Right. | |
| Nowadays, a bank run doesn't look like what you see in the movies. | ||
| It's not people running to a bank branch and demanding their money. | ||
| It's people log on to their bank account, click, you know, out of Bank of America, into my Chase account, boom, enough people do that. | ||
| The bank is no longer solvent. | ||
| So some people wondered if they were trying to slow that outflow until they could figure out a policy. | ||
| Like, do we need to say we're not going to charge the $5 fee? | ||
| Or, you know, and then to go conspiracy on you, one dude even said that they're preparing, they're testing it out to see how would we stop an actual bank run in modern times. | ||
| And the best way to do it would be just shut down your mobile banking access, shut down your website access, or slow it to the point where it's difficult to do stuff, and you don't have as many people taking out money. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That should be illegal. | ||
| It should be. | ||
| It was never properly looked into. | ||
| Is there any policy in regards to that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If they claim they're having service issues, I don't know how much of a role the government has. | ||
| You can't check on that? | ||
| That seems like a lie about that. | ||
| It was a weird coincidence, the timing. | ||
| That's what bothered me. | ||
| It's one thing if a bank has an outage, because that does happen, but the timing was so perfect. | ||
| It's like, if I were a big bank and a lot of people were just, if I were just being hemorrhaged right now, all these people withdrawing, maybe I would turn off my website for a little while. | ||
| And shouldn't that be all over CNN? | ||
| Shouldn't that be all over Fox News? | ||
| Customers demand answers, and rightly so. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And rightly so. | ||
| I'm going to take mine. | ||
| I think Western Union's looking better every day. | ||
| Or whatever you do. | ||
| Got a hole in my backyard. | ||
| You're throwing money in. | ||
| Check cashing places. | ||
| The whole idea of money is fucking terrifying. | ||
| Ones and zeros and fucking decimal points. | ||
| What is where you're going to do it? | ||
| I like the thing about gold, how when somebody hands you a gold coin, not that I've never actually made that much money where somebody hands me a gold coin. | ||
| But when you look at one in a store and they hand it to you, it has weight. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you know that it's possible this thing is thousands of years old and has no rust on it. | ||
| And regardless of what that thing is worth in terms of dollars, you know that what you have is valuable. | ||
| And same thing with jewelry is made out of gold and silver. | ||
| And it's just something like in our in our little primitive brains, we know like shiny metal that's heavy and doesn't rust has value. | ||
| We can turn it into a million different things. | ||
| This is money, you know? | ||
| And then dollars seem like more and more ridiculous. | ||
| Well, do you know the ultimate ridiculous theory on why gold is valuable? | ||
| What? | ||
| The Zacharias Hitchin theory? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Oh, here we go down a crazy road. | ||
| the ancient Sumerian text is like this cuneiform text that was written on clay tablets and it's this really odd ancient language from about six thousand years ago where it looks like They don't have a perfect form. | ||
| It's like triangular almost. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's not like a tabletop with a spike. | ||
| It's not like that. | ||
| They're more of like a stake looking sort of a thing because they were mined out of, you know, they were iron. | ||
| They were made out of iron, these fucking things. | ||
| Jesus, what was my point? | ||
| Zachariah. | ||
| Oh, Zacharias Hitchincho, the cuneiform. | ||
| So anyway, this is this weird series of lines, and it's all subject to interpretation. | ||
| It's really difficult stuff to decipher. | ||
| But this one guy, Zacharias Hitchin, who's a legitimate biblical scholar and ancient linguist, he said that the entire thing was about the Anunnaki and that the Anunnaki were an alien race that created us. | ||
| Like the engineer in the movie Prometheus. | ||
| Like this was his idea of the Anunnaki. | ||
| They were these giants that created us by mixing their DNA with primate DNA. | ||
| And that all of this was so that they could make us work for them and mine gold. | ||
| Because they needed gold particles to suspend in their atmosphere to protect them from the radiation. | ||
| Sounds totally retarded. | ||
| That's the answer I'm going to give when somebody asks me my religious beliefs. | ||
| Just going to say that. | ||
| Here's what's crazy. | ||
| This guy wrote this shit in like the 1970s. | ||
| And he's a legit scholar. | ||
| So it's really difficult to argue with him, although many other legit scholars do argue with him and completely disagree with his translations of it. | ||
| But what his translation, what got really weird was, he wrote this in like 1970s. | ||
| In the 2000s, 2005 or 6 or something like that, they had some sort of a scientific symposium where they were trying to figure out what are their alternative methods of protecting people from radiation if we lose part of our atmosphere, like ozone layers and stuff like that. | ||
| And they came up with suspending reflective particles in the atmosphere. | ||
| So these people back then had no idea that... | ||
| Well this Zacharias Hitchin guy certainly was no scientist in regards to how to deflect radiation. | ||
| That wasn't his area of expertise. | ||
| So him coming up with this as a translation from a 6,000 year old text that was written on clay tablets is quite remarkable. | ||
| He's saying something that scientists figured out 30, 40 years later. | ||
| And what he's saying is that reflective particles suspended in the atmosphere can protect you from radiation. | ||
| Well the thing about gold is gold is unlike any other metal. | ||
| And this is not something that you would need back in the day when you were fucking herding and you had a need a good metal that you can make a sword out of where you can kill people. | ||
| Gold wasn't useful in that way. | ||
| But what it is useful and you could take gold dust and a small piece of gold can make an incredible amount of this ultra-fine dust. | ||
| And if gold has bizarre, almost magical properties where you can take one piece of gold and coat an incredibly wide surface with it. | ||
| It's the most, I think the word's ductile, it's the most ductile metal there is. | ||
| You can bang it out into this thin little flake. | ||
| Yeah, it's an amazing metal. | ||
| It's a really bizarre and amazing metal. | ||
| And that it would be the perfect metal for suspending in our atmosphere to protect us from radiation. | ||
| And that Earth has, you know, a whole area where there's a lot of gold. | ||
| So these aliens came down here, realized that this is a good place for them to get some gold out of. | ||
| How do you do it? | ||
| I don't want to. | ||
| Let's make some people. | ||
| Okay, let's make some people. | ||
| So they grabbed some monkeys, they threw some DNA in them. | ||
| It's completely ridiculous. | ||
| Well, cowboys, but it's not. | ||
| To add credibility to your theory. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Cowboys And aliens. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Have you seen that? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They're there to harvest gold. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I don't think that helps us. | ||
| I'm being sarcastic about you. | ||
| I was being sarcastic about Ewak. | ||
| I was looking forward to that movie so bad. | ||
| But the idea was that that's why we still have this thing for gold, that we were literally put on Earth to mine for gold. | ||
| So we have this ridiculous ridiculous connection with value. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And then we've lost, completely lost, all of our memories of the Anunnaki because this is thousands upon thousands of people. | ||
| What if it's less sinister than that? | ||
| And it's like they came to Earth and they're like, look, guys, we need gold for our project, the atmosphere thing. | ||
| So you give us gold, and we'll give you stuff that you need. | ||
| And then you have people suddenly realize, okay, gold's money. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It could be that. | ||
| What's interesting about that? | ||
| I don't like the idea of being an engineered, like biologically engineered slave. | ||
| The reason why I lean towards that and not 100%, I mean, I don't agree with it or disagree with it, but I don't reject it as an idea simply because of the fact that the only thing that's like us is dogs. | ||
| The only thing that's like us that can vary so widely by the way it looks is humans. | ||
| We're the only thing that's like a dog. | ||
| Dogs vary incredibly, man. | ||
| You can have mastiffs, chihuahuas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they were like, they were designed. | ||
| We made them. | ||
| They vary because of human intervention. | ||
| And, I mean, maybe it's what came first, the chicken of the egg. | ||
| Maybe human innovation came and then people varied drastically. | ||
| Or when they were fucking created, they made a bunch of different versions of them. | ||
| They tried a little bit of this. | ||
| They went with like Asians probably have a little more alien in them. | ||
| Just a touch, just a smidge. | ||
| I'm Italian. | ||
| I probably have a little more monkey. | ||
| You know? | ||
| They probably, and by the way, this is not racist to Asians because it's better, I think, probably to be more evolved. | ||
| It's better to have a little less monkey. | ||
| So it's actually racist against myself. | ||
| So I don't want any fucking Twitter beef over this. | ||
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Amen, Joe. | |
| But it's ridiculous. | ||
| Look, it's totally, completely ridiculous. | ||
| I don't know, and I don't believe in it, but I propose it. | ||
| Who the fuck knows, man? | ||
| We're starting to learn all sorts of crazy shit about our past. | ||
| We're starting to learn about ancient civilizations at a time where we did not think that people were capable of building anything. | ||
| And they have these giant stone structures that we had. | ||
| That's another thing. | ||
| I remember going through school and you read the textbooks about Columbus and all this basic shit. | ||
| Not once in those textbooks do they mention, oh, by the way, there are some random cities in South America built in a way that really doesn't make sense to that time period. | ||
| And they're so far, I don't have the numbers in my mind right now, but they were so distant to everything else that it's like, we don't have any idea of what that is. | ||
| Yeah, well, not only that, there's thousands of them. | ||
| They're finding new ones in the jungle all the time. | ||
| I mean, it was an incredible civilization that existed just a couple thousand years ago. | ||
| The Mayan civilization wasn't even that long ago. | ||
| And we know so little about what really happened. | ||
| It's an amazing, amazing time. | ||
| I watched a great documentary on National Geographic called Decoding the Maya. | ||
| It's available. | ||
| I bought a DVD of it. | ||
| And it's all about them working on the translations of the different Mayan hieroglyphs and how difficult it is and trying to decipher things and the way they go about it and the scientific method they use to try to figure out what the fuck each little thing means. | ||
| Fascinating stuff. | ||
| I mean, they had a completely different way of writing the world. | ||
| They wrote the world in pictures and pictures that represented sounds that you would make. | ||
| And it would vary whether or not that sound was like, you know, like if you had, like they would, like, the way it's explained, Terrence McKenna explained it, like, if you were going to write I Saw Ant Rose, you would do an eyeball, a saw like saw, and then you would do the insect ant, and then you would do a rose. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that would be I saw ant rose. | ||
| They also had human sacrifice. | ||
| A lot of it. | ||
| That was the end. | ||
| I read Daniel Pinchbeck's book. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He seems really interesting. | ||
| I read actually. | ||
| He wouldn't get high with us. | ||
| You add on the show, he would not get high with us. | ||
| He would not get high with us. | ||
| Why? | ||
| You don't want to be like, You didn't want to be, what's the word, like, do-it-for-show? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I think some people also get uncomfortable when they're high, when they're talking about things seriously. | ||
| They don't want to come up with too much dude bro talk. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, they're worried about people seeing them stoned. | ||
| But I thought he's like the psychedelic pioneer dude. | ||
| I thought he would hop right in. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I met him when I was in Boulder. | ||
| Anthony Bourdain, two-fisted, like a soldier. | ||
| We took that dude to the depths of hell, unfortunately, because it made the conversation kind of weird because he was a little hungover from the Grammys. | ||
| But that motherfucker went deep with us. | ||
| Respect, sir. | ||
| Respect. | ||
| I got respect for you. | ||
| I could tell how high he was, too. | ||
| Because I know, unless you're getting this shit on a regular basis, the kind of marijuana that's available in Southern California is so potent and awesome and should be respected for that instead of suppressed by this ridiculous fucking DEA and government being so silly. | ||
| We're in a new era of prohibition. | ||
| That's one of the things we are. | ||
| That's one of the things I'm going to legislate. | ||
| I might not actually get it through, but you can start putting the bills out there. | ||
| What are you going to try to do? | ||
| It has to be decriminalized. | ||
| It's not even like the main focus of my campaign. | ||
| My thing is Bill of Rights and spying on us, ending those things. | ||
| Do you think it's possible to turn things back? | ||
| It absolutely is possible because the latest poll is like 50% of the American people support decriminalization and legalization. | ||
| But elected officials, only 1 to 2% support that. | ||
| So you have a huge disparity where these old assholes have to go or they have to change their stance because it's not going to stay like that forever. | ||
| You don't have an elected body that believes one thing and then 50% of your own people believe something entirely different. | ||
| That doesn't work. | ||
| And it's not much different than when Galileo was in position. | ||
| It's really sort of along the same lines. | ||
| It's called weed because it grows absolutely everywhere. | ||
| You find it by railroad tracks and you just pull it out of the ground. | ||
| And it's super nutritious. | ||
| And you can make clothes out of it and you can build buildings out of it. | ||
| Does a bottle of whiskey do all that? | ||
| You could fucking fuel a car with that shit, really, realistically. | ||
| You could take one acre of hemp. | ||
| It's as good as four acres of trees if you're trying to make paper. | ||
| It's the most ridiculous plant ever. | ||
| I'm not trying to pander to your show because I know you know you talk about this a lot, but like we can't move forward as a country if we're spending so much of our resources on criminalizing something that it's not a crime. | ||
| Not only that, something that's incredibly beneficial. | ||
| We're suppressing farmers' ability to make money. | ||
| A farmer's ability to make money, by the way, not off selling drugs, we're talking about the actual plant hemp, which is not psychoactive in any way, shape, or form. | ||
| It is not. | ||
| You won't show, you can eat it. | ||
| We sell hemp protein, hemp forced protein. | ||
| One of the biggest questions we get is, am I going to piss hot for this? | ||
| I work at a company that drug tests me. | ||
| Should I be like, yeah, you can take it. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It has nothing to do with marijuana. | ||
| That's disgusting, too. | ||
| Terrifying. | ||
| I'm of the age where I have a lot of friends who are trying to get into better positions, and they're all worried about drug testing. | ||
| It's weird because all these companies are preventing themselves from hiring the next batch of innovators. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| You're hiring people who are complete boring accountants who have never tried anything. | ||
| And I'm so offended at this idea that no one can handle drugs. | ||
| I find that so ridiculous. | ||
| That just because one person can't handle it or a few people can't handle it doesn't mean I can't handle it because drinking is one of the worst fucking drugs there is, period. | ||
| I can handle it. | ||
| I enjoy drinking, but there's no doubt you compare how your body feels the next day between the two things. | ||
| There's no doubt. | ||
| There's no comparison. | ||
| And the idea that I would somehow or another lose control because I've tried something or because I enjoy something in my off time is silly. | ||
| If you don't give a person enough respect as your employee that they will go home and sit down in front of the TV and smoke a joint when they relax at home, if you don't give them enough respect to have that time to themselves to maybe smoke a little weed and chill out when they're not riding on the company dime, they're not responsible for anything, you're going to test them for that. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| You're an asshole. | ||
| You're trying to be a slave owner. | ||
| You're not trying to be an employee. | ||
| Yeah, you can't tell people what to do when they're not at work. | ||
| It's one thing if you're on one of those offshore oil rigs, and then you're basically on the job 24 hours a day because anything can go wrong at any time. | ||
| Completely. | ||
| I understand having a zero tolerance policy there, but for some office job where you have a large portion of your day where you're not working, you should be allowed to do what you want, especially when you're using something that has not killed a single person ever. | ||
| It's a very, very, very good point about dangerous jobs. | ||
| Very good point. | ||
| It's not that we're being completely unreasonable. | ||
| You're like, government, stay out of my life. | ||
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| No. | ||
| Government. | ||
| We should definitely check people out before we let them on planes. | ||
| We should definitely test people for drugs if they're in charge of oil rigs. | ||
| And even spying. | ||
| People think I'm totally against intelligence agencies. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| There's a big role for us to have spy agencies. | ||
| You want to see what these fucking people in Afghanistan and caves are talking about. | ||
| You want to be tapping their drones. | ||
| That's what they're talking about? | ||
| How do I make a fire? | ||
| That's what they're talking about. | ||
| How do we get these drones to stop dropping stuff on us? | ||
| Yeah, what's your position on drones? | ||
| So drones are really pretty awful for a lot of the same reasons as warrantless spying. | ||
| There's not enough accountability. | ||
| Like right now, maybe it's being used properly. | ||
| We really don't know. | ||
| But at what point does it just become convenient for a president to say, look, this guy's a major asshole. | ||
| He's causing us a lot of trouble with all of his... | ||
| One drone strike, he's done. | ||
| And then people will talk about it for a couple days, and that's it, because that's how the media cycle works. | ||
| You know, people will be outraged for a couple days, and that's it. | ||
| So they take their one-time credibility hit, and they just move on. | ||
| And I don't think that's acceptable. | ||
| Again, it's too much power for the government to have. | ||
| The number of civilian drones is in, or civilian casualties because of drones is in the thousands now. | ||
| I mean, it's not just a couple of people accidentally die. | ||
| Also, there's an evil aspect to it. | ||
| Like, it used to be if you wanted to kill somebody, you stab them with something, and it was pretty intimate, you know? | ||
| And then it's been depersonalized over time. | ||
| It went from that to sniper rifles, to you drop something out of a plane. | ||
| But even then, you're still on top of their city. | ||
| You're looking down. | ||
| You're pushing the button. | ||
| You're making a moral choice. | ||
| Like, the evil I'm doing here is outweighed by the benefit it will have of winning this battle or winning this war. | ||
| The drone, some guy just goes to work at an army base, plugs in like he's playing a video game, goes home at night, mission accomplished. | ||
| It's a level of separation that is just scary. | ||
| Yeah, these civilian drone strikes, depending on who you listen to, there's a couple different figures that they throw around, but all of them are over 1,000. | ||
| From the conservative numbers, the conservative numbers are around 1,800, and the less conservative numbers are above 2,000. | ||
| But either that, I mean, all of that, it's scary stuff. | ||
| That's like 9-11 numbers. | ||
| I mean, this is the amount of innocent civilians that are killed because we're going after these bad guys, and these people just have to be near him. | ||
| They don't happen to be near him, allegedly. | ||
| There is, I agree completely, there's something crazy about the ability to take some random object, some created object rather, and fly it through the fucking air to another country, and it launches hellfire missiles at people while you're controlling it with a remote control, like you're watching a video game. | ||
| And what's so weird about that also is like, so as a society, we're making a choice to devote a lot of our technological energy and definitely taxpayer money to building better drones because these big defense contracts get them. | ||
| And so we're learning ways to vaporize 16-year-olds in a more efficient manner, basically. | ||
| These people who are like, you're in some town in Afghanistan, you have no other choices because there's no economy. | ||
| And some warlord recruits you and you're caught up in something that's definitely evil, but you don't have much control over necessarily. | ||
| And without being given a trial, you're just killed one day by a robot. | ||
| Basically, that's what it is, a robot in the sky. | ||
| I think Bill Maher calls them sky robots. | ||
| So you're killed by this thing. | ||
| And maybe if we need to give huge contracts to defense companies because they lobby the shit out of Washington, if that's just the way it is no matter what, we always have to give them massive contracts, why not go back to what we were doing in the 60s, which was part of those massive contracts for going to the space program. | ||
| You know, these companies put us on the moon instead of building drones. | ||
| Well, just cleaning up the inner cities, just strengthening our education system. | ||
| There's all sorts of jobs that can be had that are very positive. | ||
| Instead of these jobs that all go to the DEA and busting pot farms, these jobs that all go to TSA workers grabbing people and sticking them in radiation boxes. | ||
| It seems to me like we should be able to figure out a way to distribute all those people in a positive way back into our economy, back into our workforce. | ||
| And police aren't bad everywhere you go. | ||
| Like, I've traveled to a lot of places where the police actually seem like members of the community. | ||
| In small towns, there's less pressure. | ||
| In small towns and in other countries where the cops don't have uniforms, so they look like Judge Dredd. | ||
| Like, here I've noticed the uniforms keep getting scarier and scarier. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It depends on the city, obviously. | ||
| Well, have you seen the camo? | ||
| Yeah, in South Florida. | ||
| Irvine? | ||
| In South Florida, the guys have body vests on. | ||
| It wasn't Irvine. | ||
| What was the city in Orange County? | ||
| Irheim. | ||
| Anaheim. | ||
| Anaheim, there was protests. | ||
| That was a total media blackout. | ||
| That Anaheim thing started to escalate. | ||
| Saw nothing about in the news. | ||
| I had to just Google news it, you know. | ||
| Because that's where Disneyland is, bitch. | ||
| They know how to keep shit under wraps at Disneyland. | ||
| But I mean, they had people in camouflage. | ||
| And you're like, what is the message of you being in camouflage? | ||
| Is that the only clothes you have? | ||
| Or are you letting me know that you've killed people? | ||
| Are you letting me know that you're a train killer from overseas and you're not fucking around? | ||
| A member of the community keeping the peace? | ||
| Or are you ready for some serious shit? | ||
| Yeah, why are you wearing body armor and why do you have a fucking machine gun? | ||
| And why are you standing around when people are protesting the death of a young man who was shot in the back? | ||
| The whole thing. | ||
| How about that fucking guy that shot himself in the head in the back seat of a car? | ||
| That was fucked up. | ||
| And they ruled it a suicide. | ||
| I don't believe that for a second. | ||
| But the brazen act of ruling that a suicide, that shit is completely ridiculous. | ||
| How the fuck did they get away with that? | ||
| That's part of when you get a society that's corrupt, you have corrupt rulings. | ||
| But the fact that people would be willing to just listen to that and go, yeah, well, okay, shouldn't have shot himself in the head. | ||
| You pull a guy over, you arrest him, and he's like, this is it. | ||
| My life's over. | ||
| I'm going to shoot myself in the head while I'm handcuffed behind my back. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I'm going to shoot myself in the temple. | ||
| Yeah, the next few hours are going to be inconvenient being processed, so I'm just going to kill myself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It makes no sense. | ||
| I'm going to put it up to my temple, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How can you even fucking do that? | ||
| Can you even do that? | ||
| Well, it wouldn't have to be like a younger person. | ||
| What scares me is when these videos come out of police just beating the shit out of somebody for no reason. | ||
| And you wonder, like, how many times is this happening where the right conditions weren't there, where there happened to be somebody who had the balls and the camera to actually film it, you know? | ||
| When I was in high school, my friend Jimmy was in, there's a place called Kenmore Square in Boston. | ||
| And this is back when they had dudes who would put cardboard down on the street and they would break dance. | ||
| Yeah, I used to do that. | ||
| Remember that ship? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it was really popular. | ||
| Well, there was breakdancers and these punkers. | ||
| There was like a bar there. | ||
| So there's like these punk people and these breakdance people got into a fucking crazy brawl. | ||
| And the cops come and showed up in paddy wagons. | ||
| And he said he had never seen anything like it. | ||
| Dudes were just swinging those bats and cracking people in the head because there's no video. | ||
| No one's monitoring them. | ||
| He said they would crack people in the head. | ||
| He goes, the sound was so sickening. | ||
| And then they would take their head and slam it into the paddy wagon before they go in. | ||
| Everyone just slammed their fucking head into the metal and then tossed them in. | ||
| He said it was so disturbing that like watching it. | ||
| He never looked at cops the same way again. | ||
| Just watching them just get cracked in the head by bats and then slam their head into the metal and then push them in because they were involved in a big brawl. | ||
| And that was back when people had brawls where they didn't shoot each other. | ||
| They just beat each other up. | ||
| Like those don't exist anymore. | ||
| Allegedly some of those Occupy protesters, they like would handcuff them in a way that's painful using the plastic cuffs. | ||
| And they shoved them all into vans and they were in there for so long that they were forced to urinate on each other. | ||
| Even like they were denied access to a bathroom when they asked for one. | ||
| And you hear about this all the time, where they're doing the handcuffs so hard that people are screaming for them to be fixed, and they just don't care. | ||
| It's so sick. | ||
| That's not what America is about. | ||
| We have the freedom of protest. | ||
| So when I see people protesting, I'm actually kind of excited because it means that people are engaging again. | ||
| They're like, okay, I care about this issue. | ||
| I'm going to tell you what I think of it. | ||
| That's a good thing. | ||
| Having debate and discussion, that's a sign of life. | ||
| And they're treating it like it's a threat to our existence and a threat to national security. | ||
| It's super creepy. | ||
| One of the creepy things was we had Jamie Kilstein on, who's been very involved in the Occupy process from the beginning. | ||
| And he was talking to me about cops that have infiltrated. | ||
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| No, cops. | ||
| Police officers. | ||
| Police officers that have infiltrated and they pretend to be. | ||
| Yeah, the agent provocateurs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That strikes me as one of the most fucked up things also. | ||
| That you get paid for that. | ||
| You have a protest that's peaceful and isn't harming the community, and you have exactly, you have taxpayer money going into turning this into a violent, disorderly thing. | ||
| So you can bust people who would not have been an issue in the first place? | ||
| It should be treason. | ||
| It should be complete treason. | ||
| If you find out that someone has ever done that and they have done that, it should be absolutely treasonous. | ||
| You should go to jail. | ||
| You've fucked up the civil discourse of this situation. | ||
| That is against the community. | ||
| Your actions are undermining the peace of the community. | ||
| You should go to jail. | ||
| The fact that we're just allowed that, and we just sort of accept that level of not just incompetence on the part, but real corruption. | ||
| It's not incompetence, it's institutional. | ||
| Like you said, it's not the people at the bottom level who are the problem. | ||
| Somebody up top is saying, look, you better rough these protesters up because we don't want them coming back next weekend. | ||
| And they're so stupid. | ||
| The incompetence is that this is the only way they feel like they can handle it. | ||
| And what's even stupider is this is what's going to lead to bigger protests. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because the denial of equality, the fact that they won't consider that these people are a part of the community. | ||
| When the community is having this much problem with your action, you're doing something wrong. | ||
| There's something wrong. | ||
| There's an injustice. | ||
| It's not an unreasonable, ridiculous thing like some crazy person saying, you stole all my money from the golden giant. | ||
| No, you're talking like real sense and citing real, and you're being ignored. | ||
| And when that happens, it's right to protest. | ||
| It's American to protest. | ||
| It's patriotic to protest. | ||
| It shows that you're stepping outside of the box to say, hey, I want to be counted amongst the people who think there's something wrong with this. | ||
| That's what America is supposed to be all about. | ||
| So the problem with America is it's run by un-Americans. | ||
| It's run by people who are not acting in the American American. | ||
| You have a lot of people who believe that 9-11 was like the opportunity of a lifetime. | ||
| You know, get a better position within the government, make a shitload of money on these crazy contracts, doing spying programs and putting body scanners in airports and all this stuff. | ||
| A lot of people made money off of this. | ||
| And I consider that quite un-American to profit off of a tragedy like that. | ||
| And in such a blatant way, you know? | ||
| Well, it was quite un-American to have Dick Cheney as a vice president. | ||
| How crazy is that to have this guy who's a vice president who used to be the CEO of a company that fixes shit after you blow things up? | ||
| Well, the whole thing there, if we weren't corrupt, we should have just said, okay, great. | ||
| You're a CEO of Halliburton. | ||
| No big deal, but no government contracts while you're in office. | ||
| We're not sending a penny to Halliburton because it's a total conflict of interest. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, I don't understand why government gets away with things that in the financial sector would just be considered ludicrous. | ||
| It's inside of trading. | ||
| You'd go to jail for something much less horrible than that. | ||
| If you just knew that a company was going to fold and you sold your stock, that seems like a smart business move, but that's completely and totally illegal. | ||
| If this motherfucker had the access to this entire giant business that rebuilt things after you, and he was the guy running it, and then he gives them contracts, no-bid contracts for billions and billions of dollars, that is so blatant and in your face and so crazy. | ||
| It's kind of like, it's like, what are you going to do about it? | ||
| The media is not going to cover it all that much, and we know you're not going to protest because you might get the shit kicked out of you. | ||
| So what are you going to do about it? | ||
| We're just going to do it anyway. | ||
| Shit, that's totally un-American. | ||
| That's totally un-American. | ||
| Does AlphaBrain make you curse more? | ||
| I feel like that's the best. | ||
| That's just being here with us. | ||
| The other day I saw the creepiest thing ever in Burbank, and I immediately raised it. | ||
| Is it really the creepiest thing ever? | ||
| You want to clarify? | ||
| It was pretty creepy. | ||
| And then I found a video of it. | ||
| I've been searching to see if anyone else saw it. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| Well, just tell me what it was before. | ||
| It's tons of tanks just going through on the train track. | ||
| Some of my readers have sent me that stuff, different videos from different parts of the country. | ||
| It's creepy. | ||
| Oh, it could totally be just the normal, it's coming off of a factory line and has to be shipped somewhere else. | ||
| I thought you were going to send me something with a cat's butthole or something. | ||
| I got to be honest with you. | ||
| But isn't it weird that we're now at the point where our government really is doing so many terrible things that we see tanks and our first thought is, are they going to use these against us? | ||
| Can you imagine that? | ||
| Can you imagine in World War II, like you see a line of tanks, you'd be like, hell yeah. | ||
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The real problem is like, I hope they don't use this against us. | |
| The real problem is when they don't need drivers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the real problem. | ||
| When they just have to slander. | ||
| Yeah, when you have a few people running these fucking things by remote control, they can take over cities and do a lot of shit that's impossible to do when you don't have an evil cunt behind the switch. | ||
| But if they just have a few dudes working somewhere pushing all the buttons for these fucking things. | ||
| You watch the new Total Recall? | ||
| Hell no, son. | ||
| They have the synthetic police where they just turn that thing on and they all go out and I think we're going to fuck things up way before that ever happens. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| But this is disturbing, man. | ||
| Knowing this is drones and knowing all the thousands of people that have died that were totally innocent because of the drones, knowing the fact that no one seems to have a problem with that because we don't know those little brown people. | ||
| We don't know them. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not afraid of the technology. | ||
| The technology is the technology. | ||
| You can never turn it back. | ||
| Drones are now a part of warfare. | ||
| That's the way it goes. | ||
| The problem I have is a total lack of accountability. | ||
| Who are these people? | ||
| Why are they being targeted? | ||
| Did they deserve to be killed or could they have been detained and questioned? | ||
| Not only that. | ||
| Who are these people that are deciding who to go after and who not to go after? | ||
| And what is your motivation? | ||
| And what ties do you have to Halliburton? | ||
| What ties do you have to who is making missiles? | ||
| How much money do you make when one of those missiles goes off and hits somebody? | ||
| What is a contract for 100 new missiles worth? | ||
| Is it worth a lot? | ||
| That seems like a good motivation to invade someplace where there's nobody paying attention anyway. | ||
| Just go and fuck them up. | ||
| Just fucking get rid of some missiles. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's crazy that people could try to make money doing that, but there's so much money in doing that. | ||
| You have to consider it. | ||
| Look at Afghanistan. | ||
| It's like I was talking to somebody about this. | ||
| Our whole policy is like, okay, we can send them some school supplies and occupy their country with our military forces for a few years, and then they're going to have democracy. | ||
| It's just going to spring up. | ||
| Those people are like literally a thousand years behind where we are. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| It's like Tatooine in Star Wars. | ||
| They're not there yet. | ||
| There are certain bridges that need to be built. | ||
| You don't just go from localized warlords in this creepy desert that has insane-looking spiders. | ||
| Actually, that's in Iraq. | ||
| They have camel spiders there. | ||
| You fed people those on Fear Factor. | ||
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Did you? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't like the idea of that. | ||
| They eat them alive. | ||
| Camel spiders should be eating people, not the other way around. | ||
| They're creepy-looking alien bugs, man. | ||
| If they were gigantic, they would fit right in Starship Troopers. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But anyway, like, that part of the world is not ready for three years going from localized warlords to functioning democracy. | ||
| We can pull out. | ||
| We're done. | ||
| This is not going to happen. | ||
| How far behind it really, truly is. | ||
| I remember McCain referring it to it. | ||
| McCain was debating Obama, and he was saying, he doesn't understand what he's talking about. | ||
| When you're talking about invading Afghanistan and going, Afghanistan is run the same way it was when people were on horseback. | ||
| It was like Alexander the Great. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I just saw a headline today. | ||
| The Taliban beheaded a bunch of people. | ||
| And their crime was going to a party that was mixed sex. | ||
| So there are men and women listening to music together and drinking together. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Beheaded. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I mean, that's how far behind they are. | ||
| They're so willing to take it to the next level. | ||
| Like, that is how you really control people. | ||
| I mean, you chop their fucking heads off in the middle of the streets and nobody does shit. | ||
| what does that do? | ||
| It creates a, That's not going to happen again. | ||
| But we know that that's possible, and that's what's really disturbing about human nature. | ||
| And that in 2012, we have direct evidence that people who are in positions of power are capable of doing something that fucked up. | ||
| And if you really believe that people are all the same, the only difference is we have different cultures and different environments and different biological makeups and different ways we look, but essentially people are equal. | ||
| Well, in 2012, people are cutting people's heads off for nonsense. | ||
| That's what people in power are capable of doing. | ||
| And we've got to look honestly And realistically, about the people that are in power right here, because just because you could drive a sob and go to Starbucks and get Wi-Fi at work, just because all that's going on, doesn't mean you're not living in a den of monsters. | ||
| Yeah, and not only that, just because you have those good things, you have a safe town, and you have Starbucks and like a level of prosperity that's really pretty good. | ||
| You don't want to let that go. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| Yeah, addressing all the bad stuff that's happening isn't going to take that away from you. | ||
| It'll actually give you more of it. | ||
| Because less money will be going to this bullshit. | ||
| More money will be going to programs that will keep your town safe and clean. | ||
| When we think about America, we think about all the good things about America. | ||
| And not only will none of that change, it will all be enhanced. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| More people will be providing more positive things into the city. | ||
| Instead of our cities and our countries and our states being governed by this giant fucking monster that goes overseas and blows shit up. | ||
| Instead of that, all of the tax money, all of the resources go to building shit. | ||
| Go to building shit within here, this country, making this place better, cleaning up all the bullshit that all these fucking corporations have left behind in terms of toxic waste poisoning and figuring out how to manage nuclear waste. | ||
| All of it here, though, all of it. | ||
| To this nonsense where our whole economy is based on fucking people out of their shit in another place. | ||
| That's craziness. | ||
| Maybe you should run also. | ||
| Fuck fat. | ||
| I would love to hear like a Mitt Romney or somebody say basically that. | ||
| We need to end outsourcing. | ||
| We bring these jobs home. | ||
| I would never be a part of this system because this system is bullshit. | ||
| To me, this system is like, you might as well go to the Rocky Horror Picture Show and pretend because you're singing along that you're actually in the movie because you're not really changing what's going to happen. | ||
| You're not really a part of it. | ||
| This system is completely fucked sideways with corruption. | ||
| And for you to jump in and try to write the ship from the inside, but man, good luck to you. | ||
| I'm in your corner, dude. | ||
| You're going to try to do it, and you're going to run for Congress, and I want to support you, and I want you to win, and I want you to get into the positions where you can actually make some change. | ||
| But in order to do that, man, that has to be literally your whole life. | ||
| That has to be your whole life. | ||
| Just to correct the work of some cunts. | ||
| Instead of telling the cunts to stop being cunts, just get your own shit together. | ||
| The people that are in the upper positions of power that must be fucking creepy paranoid and depressed and weirded out and on kalonopin and all kinds of other fucking weird drugs to get you through your day and Xanax and Ambien to go to sleep at night. | ||
| Do you know how many successful, wealthy people in business I know that are addicted to Ambien? | ||
| They're popping that shit every night to try to get some sleep. | ||
| Because they can't, because they're crazy. | ||
| Because they're dealing with all kinds of nonsense all day and fuckery afoot every step of the way. | ||
| And they literally can't even fucking sleep. | ||
| They can't relax. | ||
| And everybody goes through this existential crisis where you're like, what the fuck is this all about? | ||
| But there's no answer. | ||
| So you go buy new Jaguar. | ||
| There's no answer. | ||
| So you get a new membership to the country club. | ||
| And now you're living behind the community. | ||
| Oh, it's a nice graded community there, Bob. | ||
| And you just keep pushing. | ||
| I think a lot of it's a proxy for not getting sex, too. | ||
| Yeah, fuck. | ||
| A lot of these dudes in the Senate are just old. | ||
| This might hurt me, but probably can't get it up anymore. | ||
| Actually, they could probably get it up. | ||
| But now if Viagra. | ||
| But point is, they're not what they used to be. | ||
| And instead of pulling all these girls they used to pull, they have to feel so virile by passing this shit that is ridiculous, like just totalitarian stuff. | ||
| I think a small part of it is like if you're getting sex regularly and you have a balanced life that also involves friends and family and doing stuff that has nothing to do with politics or with building drones or any of that stuff, why would you even be in favor of these things? | ||
| You're not going to be in that direction of, let's start a war to make some money or let's take away rights just to be on the safe side. | ||
| You're not going to think that way. | ||
| Yeah, that's a very good point as well. | ||
| If you're operating from a position of comfort and power and empowerment, you feel yourself that you're doing what you should be doing and you're very confident about everything. | ||
| You're not going to try to suppress other people. | ||
| And that's the problem with old people. | ||
| A lot of old people want to suppress young people. | ||
| It's very common. | ||
| They see people coming up and they shit on them. | ||
| You know, I remember that from the comedy days, you know, the older comedians. | ||
| There was two types of older comedians. | ||
| There was a really cool, encouraging guys who would tell you, hey, you got to write more. | ||
| You should go to as much on stage as you can get, the better, and give you good advice. | ||
| Good luck, man. | ||
| And if you ever have questions, I'm here. | ||
| And those guys are great. | ||
| Those guys, you meet a guy like that, they're like a life raft. | ||
| But there's other guys who just see you coming up and they just want to push you down and shit on you. | ||
| They want to hold you in place. | ||
| And they act like they can. | ||
| This guy, I don't want him working with me. | ||
| He says fuck too much. | ||
| He breaks the fuck meter. | ||
| Like, why are you, ugh, you creepy dick? | ||
| But that's the same thing. | ||
| It's just crabs in a bucket. | ||
| They're just trying to hold people down. | ||
| And when you get to a position where you're a guy like that, where you're a guy like Newt Gingrich and they go, hey man, boxers are briefs. | ||
| You go, what kind of idiotic question is that? | ||
| You think, I'm not going to answer. | ||
| What are you, stupid? | ||
| You know, and then you just berate some poor kid who just asked you a cute question about your underwear. | ||
| I think that says something about your character, too. | ||
| Absolutely it does. | ||
| It says something about you being a bully. | ||
| Like, watch him as a bitch. | ||
| I'm talking about like boxers or briefs. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But yeah, totally. | ||
| Like that response to a reporter, Mitt Romney did something similar. | ||
| He was in Colorado and a TV reporter, not even like a random person, a TV reporter asked him something about marijuana policy, which in a state like Colorado, where it's a big part of their economy, is not a crazy question. | ||
| And he was like pissed that it was asked and didn't want to address it. | ||
| No, not only that, there's a terrible defining video where there's a patient who has some sort of debilitating disease and he's in a wheelchair. | ||
| And he asked Mitt Romney what his stance is on medical marijuana. | ||
| He says, because it helps him. | ||
| It helps him eat. | ||
| It alleviates his pain and symptoms. | ||
| He's telling Mitt Romney that he benefits from this. | ||
| Well, I'm against it. | ||
| I'm against medical marijuana. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you. | ||
| I'm against it. | ||
| Just like no compassion, no real connection with this person. | ||
| And to me, it's such a telling video of who Mitt Romney really is. | ||
| He is a guy who is willing to play the role of the puppet to a T. He will never vary from the script. | ||
| He's stuck on the policy line. | ||
| That's so scary. | ||
| It's terrifying. | ||
| He's not a real person. | ||
| He doesn't even know what the fuck. | ||
| He's a Mormon. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| Just that alone. | ||
| That's a can of worms. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I can't believe out of 314 million people, that's our current population, that the best we can come up with is Obama, who has a record now of promoting things that the Bush administration would not have even done. | ||
| Like there was a former Bush administration official said that NDAA was something that their administration would not have tried and would not have even found acceptable. | ||
| And so you have Obama doing these things, so we know where he stands. | ||
| Then we have Mitt Romney. | ||
| And those are our two best choices out of all the talent and energy in this country. | ||
| And the answer is, of course, those aren't our best choices. | ||
| Those are the people who are put forward. | ||
| You know, Mitt Romney, I had no part in him becoming our pick. | ||
| Most people didn't have a say in that. | ||
| And it just happened. | ||
| And I mean, there were better choices out there, and they weren't given enough attention. | ||
| Well, the Ron Paul issue was the greatest issue. | ||
| I mean, you want to talk about someone who was rallied behind by so many different people. | ||
| And Ron Paul himself is a radical Christian, and in fact, doesn't even support the theory of evolution. | ||
| It doesn't bother me. | ||
| Because he leaves it out of the church. | ||
| He leaves it out of church. | ||
| He leaves it there. | ||
| When it's influencing policy, then I have to look at all the other things. | ||
| When you want to infringe upon other people's rights, and yet you believe in some wackiness, that has to be brought into the equation now. | ||
| As long as you keep it to yourself, we're cool. | ||
| As long as you don't fuck with people and you really go by the way this country was initially founded, the separation, the true separation of church and state, because people were coming here because they face religious persecution in other lands. | ||
| And they said, listen, let's just work it out so we keep that shit out of this. | ||
| Agreed? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Our founding documents were so beautiful. | ||
| And the Bill of Rights, now you see contracts, like the terms of use on iTunes or whatever. | ||
| And it's difficult to get through because it's so long. | ||
| The Bill of Rights was written so you could be like a 15-year-old and understand it perfectly with no legal background. | ||
| It's so simple. | ||
| You have a right to the freedom of speech and peaceful assembly. | ||
| These are rights. | ||
| You have them. | ||
| We're not going to bury it in some kind of legalese. | ||
| The only problem that I ever have with someone who is in a, we call it a cult or a religion or anything like that, like being a Mormon, is that you're so committed to it. | ||
| It's not that I don't think that Mormonism can help you and make you a better person, because like I said, I know really nice people that are Mormons. | ||
| It's just if you're willing to believe that, what else do you believe? | ||
| How much is that going to affect your choices? | ||
| What kind of weird apocalyptic shit could somebody put into your head? | ||
| If you really, truly do believe that a 14-year-old boy from 1820 found golden tablets that contained the lost work of Jesus and that the American Indians were actually a tribe that came here from Israel. | ||
| And the original Israelites, like... | ||
| Not a lot of... | ||
| Well, not a lot of 14-year-old kids that aren't completely full of shit. | ||
| And once they start talking about angels dropping off packages of gold and then taking them away before the people could come and read them, they have magic stones to look at them with. | ||
| Like, this isn't even well written. | ||
| It's like, this is crazy. | ||
| If someone tried to say that today, there's no way you would listen to them. | ||
| If a guy came to you today and said, listen, man. | ||
| The definition of craziness. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But because it's old, people go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But back then it was real. | ||
| If it happened today, what would you do? | ||
| You would say, well, this 14-year-old kid is obviously full of shit. | ||
| But that's like all the miracles in the Bible. | ||
| It's like, where did all this stuff go? | ||
| It happened all the time back then, and now it's like the real problem. | ||
| Miracles do happen, by the way. | ||
| That dude, Captain Sully, that was a miracle. | ||
| That'll probably be in our, whatever we have as a Bible, like 2,000 years from now, they'll mention that. | ||
| It's a skillful landing. | ||
| Skillful, but also. | ||
| It's a brilliant job, but also kind of a miracle. | ||
| Do you think so? | ||
| Well, in the sense that you have a plane crash, and the media covers it in such a negative way for so long. | ||
| And this one was just not what you see. | ||
| So I think it was a miracle. | ||
| In the sense that maybe it was just a skillful landing. | ||
| I don't know what the odds are. | ||
| He was a man who fucking saved people. | ||
| He manned up. | ||
| He's an expert pilot, and he did what he was trained to do in that situation. | ||
| He did it perfectly, and he handled himself under pressure in a heroic fashion. | ||
| I don't think you should say that's a miracle. | ||
| I think that's a man with character that should be admired. | ||
| I don't think there's anything miraculous about it. | ||
| I think it was training and long, long hours in the job and an expert ability to handle an airplane. | ||
| And he just did it in a perfect way, where some people would have fucking panicked and fell apart and killed everybody on that plane. | ||
| That's a lot of people. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm sticking with miracle. | ||
| I think when it gets passed down the line enough times, it's going to be that Jesus' hands slowly glided that thing down into the water. | ||
| It's probably already there. | ||
| Maybe there's someone who was on the plane who was praying that's taken full credit for it. | ||
| It was one of the horrible things about the Carlo Rado thing. | ||
| It was a guy who was claiming that the reason why he was spared and all these other people, including young children, were killed, is that he was spared to let people know how great God is. | ||
| Crazy people suck. | ||
| They suck, man, especially when you realize that there's probably some really cool people that got shot and this asshole thinks that the reason why they got shot and he didn't is because he was thinking the right things. | ||
| And he was hoping to God that he could spread God's word. | ||
| Like, come on, man. | ||
| How about you got lucky and it's a shame that this cunt killed all these people? | ||
| How about that, man? | ||
| Or like, I won the football game because I prayed to Jesus. | ||
| about the millions of people killed in all these different countries where It's so creepy that that doesn't drive everyone nuts. | ||
| It's so creepy. | ||
| I kind of hope for, sorry to cut you off. | ||
| I kind of hope for like some kind of alien invasion. | ||
| Not even an alien invasion. | ||
| I hope that one day NASA comes out and says, by the way, they're aliens. | ||
| They might come here, they might not. | ||
| But we found out they're aliens somewhere. | ||
| And they've been monitoring us, everything we do. | ||
| Or just the fact that they're aliens. | ||
| Then it's like we all have to come together as a people because we're now one planet and we have to defend against these other things. | ||
| So we can't get caught up in bullshit. | ||
| Like what does your old book say versus my old book? | ||
| Yeah, we have to deal with reality as it actually exists right now. | ||
| What are our resources? | ||
| How can we defend ourselves if we can? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You know, the most compelling idea about alien life to me is that alien consciousness is creativity. | ||
| And that it's creating our society by planting the seed of creativity in the modern animal, the modern monkey animal, and forcing it to eventually pursue its doom. | ||
| That it has to. | ||
| That it is absolutely compelled to fuck with matter to the point where it seals its own doom. | ||
| And that it's like a built-in program in us. | ||
| And that it's to design, that's how you blow up planets. | ||
| That's how you fuck with planets. | ||
| That's the long method. | ||
| Yeah, you just inject creativity and the need for constant innovation, bigger, better things. | ||
| And eventually they just blow the whole thing sky high. | ||
| It's inevitable. | ||
| It's an unavoidable. | ||
| It's awful and beautiful at the same time. | ||
| Well, I mean, it all comes from our desire to understand our surroundings better and our desire to improve. | ||
| But why is that? | ||
| If we ultimately are temporary beings, shouldn't we stop at a certain point and say, all we need is food and all we need is comfort and let's just enjoy our camaraderie while we're here and get through this thing in a very healthy and spiritual way. | ||
| We're like, no, not interested in that. | ||
| Interested in a bigger fucking TV and I want some pills that make me sleep at night. | ||
| And is there a way I can get the internet on my glasses? | ||
| I want to look through my fucking glasses and read my email. | ||
| I don't want to ever know where any direction is. | ||
| I want my car to drive me. | ||
| Google Glasses. | ||
| I want my phone to have a million photos of it on it. | ||
| We're in some weird, weird cycle. | ||
| It's like you've seen Blade Runner, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they're programmed to only live for four years, then they die. | ||
| So they know, I mean, they're upset about that, but also it forces you to be in the present. | ||
| And that's like what we are. | ||
| You don't know that you're not going to be dead within four years. | ||
| Or what's the difference? | ||
| What's the difference between four years or 40 years? | ||
| You're going to be dead soon, and you have these memories in your past that have been implanted, in a sense. | ||
| You have real memories of what you've done, but at the end of the day, it's all your perception. | ||
| Well, that's it. | ||
| And the memory is kind of like this false. | ||
| I think it's like this false security. | ||
| Like, okay, I've done a lot of cool shit in the past, so I can just ride for a little while and not do anything. | ||
| But really, you can't do that, because you don't know how much time you have left. | ||
| Well, not only that, then you become a fat fuck and a loser. | ||
| Because that's what happens to people when they give up on trying. | ||
| They get fat and they get stupid and they quit and they just lay around and do nothing until they die. | ||
| That's someone who's not enjoying their life. | ||
| They've rested on their laurels. | ||
| It's weird to be temporary. | ||
| It's a weird feeling. | ||
| We don't like it. | ||
| That's why religion exists in the first place. | ||
| It's almost like a scaffolding to sort of get us through it while we're constructing some new level of consciousness. | ||
| It's like, let me just give you some shit to think about. | ||
| This is what's going to happen. | ||
| The really promising feeling that you get from psychedelic drugs is that what you experience is so stupendously alien to what you experience on an everyday, day-to-day basis that it gives you hope for some really complex structure to the universe that's unavailable to you when you're in a straight and normal form and state of consciousness. | ||
| And that there might be chemical doorways to different dimensions and chemical doorways to different experiences. | ||
| And that's essentially what your whole neurochemistry and your whole life is based on. | ||
| You're a series of chemicals. | ||
| Adrenaline when shit goes wrong and you need to fight or flight. | ||
| You know, serotonin when you have babies and dopamine when you see people that you love and you go outside and it's sunny. | ||
| And there's all sorts of chemical releases that are constantly going on that bring you to altered states of consciousness. | ||
| And we know that the brain produces some very extreme psychedelic chemicals. | ||
| So it just stands to reason to me that this idea that the only thing that's real is some shit that you can touch with your hands and that this dimension and this experience is the only thing that's real because it's what we're conscious of and what we're involved in right now. | ||
| I say no fucking way. | ||
| I say it's much more likely that this thing is way more complicated than we can even imagine and that we are silly little ants walking around on a dog's ass trying to describe the universe. | ||
| Vorce. | ||
| It would be much better if I didn't fuck up that last word. | ||
| I think it's weird that like old societies, the people that they look to for advice and for counsel were like shamans who knew the most about taking these kinds of journeys. | ||
| And also they had in ancient Greece they supposedly had the oracle and they were from what I understand under the influence of some kind of psychedelic drug which helped them come up with their prophecies or whatever. | ||
| So this is where people look to and today our leaders are the people who know the least about these things. | ||
| Like a guy like Paul Ryan who claims that he's never smoked. | ||
| He's never smoked pot, he says. | ||
| That's what somebody somebody sent me a link to it. | ||
| I didn't read the whole article but I think he said it was in GQ. | ||
| He claims he's never smoked pot. | ||
| He's a silly bitch. | ||
| If that's true, it's one of two things, right? | ||
| We were talking about this before the show. | ||
| Either he's a dork and you don't want him to be president. | ||
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Right. | |
| Either he's a dork. | ||
| He's a liar. | ||
| He's a tool or he's a liar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Most people have either thought about, I have seen that. | ||
| And I've seen people who have become very successful and are adamant against any form of drug. | ||
| They have never had a drop of alcohol. | ||
| They have never had marijuana. | ||
| And I respect them greatly for that choice because what that choice is for them is that they don't want to go down the path, that they have seen their own loved ones go down. | ||
| So those things are the enemy. | ||
| Those substances, although maybe they could handle it and maybe they couldn't, to them, those substances are weak and those are the enemy. | ||
| I respect that. | ||
| Those are like some of the guys who run these rehab centers. | ||
| They were once alcoholics or they were once drug addicts and they have the worst experience possible. | ||
| So then they're like, I don't want anybody else to go through this. | ||
| But maybe some people can handle it better than you did. | ||
| Just because you fucked up your life. | ||
| It's important. | ||
| It doesn't mean that nobody else can enjoy a couple of beers when they're out on a date or out of fundraiser or something. | ||
| There's people that can't handle anything. | ||
| They can't handle any social situation. | ||
| They stammer. | ||
| They fucking panic. | ||
| Their character shows. | ||
| People's character can show in psychedelic experiences just like it can show in a social experience. | ||
| You know, there's one of the things that happens when someone is first learning jiu-jitsu is the first time you get tapped. | ||
| It's a very humiliating feeling when you have to give up. | ||
| You feel angry. | ||
| It feels very personal. | ||
| And it takes a very strong person to get through that. | ||
| And it's just the very beginning of jiu-jitsu, which is the hardest part. | ||
| When you get tapped, what does that mean? | ||
| You have to give up. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You have a chokehold or an armball. | ||
| So you physically tap them. | ||
| You have to let them know you quit. | ||
| You quit because they're going to kill you. | ||
| If the guy has your back and he's choking you and you're tapping, you're essentially admitting that he's about to put you unconscious with that choke. | ||
| You're giving up. | ||
| So you're doing the olive garden, basically. | ||
| That's not a quitting. | ||
| No, you're doing the olive garden. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Seven times you did the olive garden. | ||
| The safe word. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, the safe word. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| We had admitted that earlier. | ||
| We had come up with that earlier. | ||
| No, so tapping out is the safe word. | ||
| I couldn't understand what you were saying. | ||
| I'm like, is he involved in this olive garden prank as well? | ||
| Yeah, that's our safe word. | ||
| I mean, that's what you do. | ||
| But it's very emotional for a lot of guys, especially when they first start doing it. | ||
| It really freaks them out. | ||
| They don't like it at all. | ||
| I've had guys that, like, the first time they've ever done jiu-jitsu and you see them hyperventilate, like a guy gets on top of them. | ||
| They panic because they think that they're about to get got, and they've never had that happen to them before. | ||
| Once it happens to you a few times, once you do it a bunch of times, and then you get used to doing it to other people, and then it becomes an accepted, normal part of your everyday life, and you're not terrified of the struggle. | ||
| The struggle becomes a struggle. | ||
| It just becomes reality. | ||
| It becomes a part of reality instead of something you're absolutely, completely terrified of. | ||
| So in getting through that, you develop some character. | ||
| You develop some ability to overcome adversity and you develop the ability to overcome very uncomfortable moments. | ||
| But you don't have to do it just through jiu-jitsu. | ||
| You can do that shit through yoga. | ||
| You know, yoga sounds ridiculous, but yoga positions are really fucking hard to hold, man. | ||
| And if you give up in the middle of the position, you feel like a bitch. | ||
| You feel like, all right, I'm going to go back to it. | ||
| And then you'll try to hold it again. | ||
| But you gave up. | ||
| You could have hung in there. | ||
| And you could have waited until the lady says next. | ||
| She can do it. | ||
| How come you can't do it? | ||
| You can't do it because you haven't pushed yourself to the position where you can do it. | ||
| And once you do push yourself, when you can do it, then you have this wave of accomplishment and this feeling and this understanding like, oh, it's difficult to do shit. | ||
| Everything doesn't come easy. | ||
| And the things that come easy, they aren't shit. | ||
| The things that you really enjoy, the things that are really fucking hard to do. | ||
| And unfortunately, we have a lot of people that are running shit that don't have control of their character. | ||
| They have not done difficult things. | ||
| They have not tested their ego. | ||
| They have not broken their will. | ||
| They have not been broken in training. | ||
| They have not developed a real character. | ||
| What they've developed is a sort of a fake personality that they have devised that society wants and will accept. | ||
| So they're saying all the right things because those right things make people think, I like you, Mike. | ||
| You're a good Christian and you hold that milk like a 1950s commercial. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I mean, they become something they think people would like to hear. | ||
| We need an economy where a man gets credit for starting his own business. | ||
| You did build it yourself. | ||
| I mean, who is that guy? | ||
| You built your minimum wage job all by yourself. | ||
| Who is that guy? | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| Is he aware of who he is? | ||
| Because I don't really think you can be aware of who you are unless you have some form of a transcendent experience. | ||
| That transcendent experience could be a fucking vision quest where you hike to the top of Mount Everest. | ||
| Near-death experiences. | ||
| Yes, that's true. | ||
| Because I think a lot of people change after that. | ||
| They're like, oh, this shit really doesn't matter. | ||
| They certainly do. | ||
| They certainly do. | ||
| Perspective-wise, and they also do because the release of endogenous psychedelic chemicals that happen in a near-death experience. | ||
| People in near-death experiences have some really fucking vivid hallucinations that, by the way, mirror the ones where they've injected people with dimethyltryptamine, which is a chemical that your brain produces when you're dreaming. | ||
| So they've injected people with dimethyltryptamine, and they also have these intense psychedelic experiences that were very similar to experiences that people had. | ||
| Yeah, that people had during near-death experiences, where people saw the bright light and they went through the tunnel and they cut to another side. | ||
| All of that shit mirrors and mimics the experiences that are repl you could replicate them with psychedelic chemicals that the brain makes. | ||
| So all of it points to that there's a lot of different things that can happen to a person where they get a fresh perspective. | ||
| And a near-death experience is one of them for a variety of reasons. | ||
| Just perspective, the fact that it was almost over, man. | ||
| Maybe I need to rethink my life. | ||
| Not even just for the high that you get from those chemicals flooding your brain, but both, both, both of them together. | ||
| But I think you need to do something in life, man. | ||
| People need a quest. | ||
| They need a vision. | ||
| They need something that tests their character and in a way that doesn't hurt other people. | ||
| And if it, you know, even if you hurt, well, you know, you mean you hurt other people through competition, but that's sort of a voluntary thing. | ||
| Like if you engage in martial arts competition, you're going to hurt people, but they're going to hurt you too. | ||
| But you will also grow. | ||
| And you will also grow from it because it's so fucking difficult. | ||
| And the body can heal. | ||
| And it's worth it in terms of what it can do for your character. | ||
| It can develop your character in ways that are really unavailable for people who are not tested. | ||
| And it doesn't mean tested, necessarily tested physically. | ||
| It could be tested mentally. | ||
| It could be a meditation thing. | ||
| It could be getting over various aspects of understanding of yourself, exploring the mind. | ||
| It could be a bunch of different things, but you've got to be tested in this fucking life. | ||
| Like real legitimately tested. | ||
| You can't just jump into a fucking party of douchebags that are currently running shit and act like they want you to act. | ||
| And then all of a sudden you're in some position of power and you're some weird Mitt Romney character who probably doesn't even know who the fuck he is. | ||
| Well, it's not. | ||
| It's like those people who are like ex-DEA and they're like, they come out against drugs and all this shit. | ||
| And you're like, too bad you weren't able to speak up when you were actually in that position to pay for it. | ||
| I mean, come out for drugs. | ||
| Yeah, and come out and be against what's happening. | ||
| And then you're like, too bad you couldn't say a single word about that while you were actually in that position deciding policy, you know? | ||
| Well, Michael Rupert is a friend of the show, and he's been on it a couple of times. | ||
| Michael Rupert was a cop in the 1980s during the whole Iran-Contra affair, who went on television and exposed that the CIA is selling drugs in south central Los Angeles. | ||
| And he exposed the whole thing. | ||
| And, you know, this is a guy who was a fucking former narcotics officer. | ||
| And he saw them selling it. | ||
| He was like, you know what? | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| I'm out of here. | ||
| And he did do what he should do in William Benny. | ||
| Right, like William Benny, exactly. | ||
| But much like William Benny, his life is in chaos since then. | ||
| I mean, to run around like this guy, this poor mathematician, and get guns put in your face, for what exactly? | ||
| for what? | ||
| For exposing something that is like Yeah, for exposing something that is really destructive to the Constitution. | ||
| And Trapwire. | ||
| Let's talk about that. | ||
| I know this is rude, but can I do another piss break? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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You're in that. | |
| We got five minutes, Joe. | ||
| You got a little baby bladder? | ||
| We didn't even get to Trapwire. | ||
| Can you hold it for five minutes? | ||
| I hold it for a five minute. | ||
| Just explain Trapwire for people because this is apparently the longest podcast we've ever done. | ||
| Really? | ||
| We only have five minutes? | ||
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Yep. | |
| Shit. | ||
| Trapwire came out of. | ||
| So Wikileaks, in one of their latest batches of emails, has a bunch of correspondence within this company called Stratfor, which is a private intelligence firm. | ||
| It's kind of like the privatized version of the CIA. | ||
| And I think the CIA would be offended by that comparison because Stratfor seems a lot less competent than the CIA. | ||
| But Strat4 is just this private intelligence company. | ||
| They gather information for a variety of clients, like private corporations. | ||
| I think Coca-Cola has used them before. | ||
| Just gather information on whatever they need. | ||
| Don't hold me too Coca-Cola, but I'm pretty certain they've used them. | ||
| They have big clients, big Fortune 500 companies, and they get data and do all this stuff. | ||
| Anyway, in the emails that the Stratfor executives are sending back and forth, a lot of confidential stuff was revealed about all kinds of things that the public is not supposed to know about. | ||
| And one of those was a company called Trapwire, which developed a computer algorithm that basically tracks people using public surveillance cameras. | ||
| That's the best way to describe it. | ||
| Using things like gait recognition, the way you walk. | ||
| It can potentially recognize you from one spot to the next, and it can flag you for suspicious behavior. | ||
| But you don't know what the suspicious behaviors are. | ||
| They think it could be something like just taking photographs of a landmark that flags you into the system, or signaling for your family to come over so that they can take a photo with you, things like that, or just loitering in an area for too long. | ||
| So this computer program, it's not a person with judgment. | ||
| This computer algorithm decides you're a suspicious individual and a threat, and then puts you into their system and profiles you. | ||
| And then when you go somewhere else, like let's say you're initially flagged somewhere in the state of Texas, then a couple months later you're on vacation in New York, one of the subway cameras in New York can re-identify you and build a file of where you've been, and predict your behavior, possibly even predict where you might go next based on where you've been. | ||
| Just another way the government and private corporations might be tracking people without their approval. | ||
| I mean, this is a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment. | ||
| We can't stop this podcast, Brian. | ||
| We have to talk about this. | ||
| Let's stop it and start it again. | ||
| Honestly, you have eight minutes, so I think you can. | ||
| I give you a fake buffer just because I noticed you don't pay attention. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, so Trapwater. | ||
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This is just such a crazy situation. | |
| It's a company where their clients are mixed. | ||
| Some of their clients are powerful government agencies, and I think even the U.S. military uses this software at Army bases. | ||
| And this is all legal? | ||
| Well, I personally don't think it's legal. | ||
| I think it just hasn't. | ||
| It's something that nobody would have known about had it not been for Wikileaks. | ||
| And the hacker who allegedly brought these emails out is now rotting in a jail right now. | ||
| Now, this whole WikiLeaks situation about him being in the Ecuador embassy, how crazy is that? | ||
| That is completely crazy. | ||
| Right now, this is the U.S. government's one of our biggest priorities, is this dude. | ||
| And this dude, by the way, they're trying to get him out under this most ridiculous charge of surprise sex, right? | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| What it is, is he had sex with a woman, and I guess the alleged story is that he did it with a condom on, and then they were lying in bed together with no condom, and he stuck it in again. | ||
| And it's craziness. | ||
| It's craziness. | ||
| They're willing to, like, that's going after this guy, a woman that he actually had sex. | ||
| Yeah, it was a douchebag move. | ||
| I mean, if she wanted to wear a condom and you did, I mean, that's a douchebag move for sure. | ||
| But you're going to have this gigantic manhunt for him where he has to hold himself up in a fucking embassy to avoid extradition to this country. | ||
| And it just so happens that he's the guy that releases all this information that shows helicopters gunning people down the street, mistaking them for terrorists. | ||
| Yeah, well, the thing with WikiLeaks, when they reveal stuff that potentially compromises informants and gets innocent people killed, I haven't seen a single instance of that actually happening, but that argument has been made. | ||
| And when that is done, I'm not okay with it. | ||
| That is wrong to put innocent people in harm's way. | ||
| You're releasing information that should not be in the public eye. | ||
| But it's important to note that he hasn't done that. | ||
| Right, but that's the thing. | ||
| He has not done that as far as I know. | ||
| In terms of releasing that video of innocent people being gunned down and children being shot full of lead, that video, and then this thing about Trapwire, I think these are things that are in the public interest, very much so. | ||
| Very much. | ||
| I like to know that all these new surveillance cameras going up in towns and cities, because there are a lot of them now that were not there a couple years ago, that many of these could be plugged into Trapwire. | ||
| That's useful public information. | ||
| That's what the media used to do. | ||
| In a previous generation, it would be like Walter Cronkite or Edward Murrow telling you about this. | ||
| It would not be Julian Assange on his WikiLeaks forum, you know? | ||
| So I think in some regards what he's doing is at the forefront of journalism. | ||
| And it's funny you brought up the specific charge that Sweden is trying to get him on. | ||
| Because I've said stuff on Twitter before. | ||
| I've said like what I just said now about how I think that's journalism. | ||
| You put something out there that's tremendously important to the public and that is being covered up and not known. | ||
| That's journalism. | ||
| And somebody said, why are you defending a rapist like Julian Assange? | ||
| And I said, first of all, that's not even the charge. | ||
| He's not being charged with rape. | ||
| So get your facts straight. | ||
| And second of all, since when does alleging that somebody did something, that means they're automatically guilty, it doesn't matter that there's tremendous pressure being placed on them to nail this guy on something. | ||
| It's so transparent. | ||
| It's so ridiculous. | ||
| It's so obvious that it's something else. | ||
| They're not going after him from the city. | ||
| And that law in Sweden is weird. | ||
| I don't think there's an analog of that in the U.S. It'd be like, it just doesn't make sense. | ||
| It's not rape. | ||
| It's just not. | ||
| It's craziness that they've wasted so much resources to try to drag him out of the country like this. | ||
| It's terrifying. | ||
| Well, they're doing it to make an example. | ||
| And they're talking about storming the Ecuadorian action. | ||
| You make an example out of him. | ||
| Nobody else is going to have the balls to create a WikiLeaks 2. | ||
| It's done. | ||
| And isn't that an act of war? | ||
| Well, it ends the whole diplomatic system. | ||
| The whole system of embassies, which is pretty important stuff. | ||
| Otherwise, if we don't have that, then we're just a bunch of animals, just different countries battling for resources at all times, and you have no ground rules. | ||
| I mean, an embassy is a pretty sacred thing. | ||
| So disturbing and so part of our reality, man. | ||
| I can only hope that with guys like you running for Congress and with this young generation that's coming up, and this is one of the things that I've said, is that I don't think you're going to change these creepy Old vampire dudes that are running banks. | ||
| I think they are fucking set in their ways, and they're a bunch of old douchebags. | ||
| And our only hope is the upcoming generation, guys like you. | ||
| It's time for everybody to step up who wants to. | ||
| These mid-20s motherfuckers with a dedication to change. | ||
| And so thanks for doing what you're doing, man. | ||
| And anytime you want to come on the podcast, we'd be more than happy to do that. | ||
| Thanks for having me on. | ||
| This is an awesome show. | ||
| I'm not just saying that. | ||
| It's like the only place where you can talk about stuff like this for hours. | ||
| Like I'm about to explode from the urine in my bladder. | ||
| But that's great. | ||
| Like nothing else does that. | ||
| Like you get right into something important and they cut you off and that's it because everybody's so ADD that that's all you get. | ||
| Well, I think that we've been tricked into thinking that that's the only way people will pay attention, that you have to give them those little quick sound bites and then is Kim Kardashian getting a batten ass that's too big? | ||
| You be the judge. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| We're so like distracted, but there's a lot of people that are realizing that podcasts and things like this, these conversations, it's an opportunity to be involved really in your own earbuds, to be considering both sides and maybe your own opinion that doesn't even get expressed that you want to express to me on Twitter later or whatever, but to be a part of a conversation between two people talking about something that you think is really important or you think is really interesting. | ||
| And that didn't exist before because we had too many fucking people that were telling people what is and it is interesting instead of just doing it naturally. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So anytime you want to come back on, man, we'd be more than happy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Sounds awesome. | ||
| Florida, respect David Seaman in the fucking house. | ||
| How can they vote for you? | ||
| When and where? | ||
| Where are you at of? | ||
| I am in Florida's 20th district. | ||
| It's in Fort Lauderdale and parts of Broward and Miami-Dade. | ||
| But most of your listeners aren't there. | ||
| What we really need is money. | ||
| Anybody who's a U.S. citizen, regardless of where you live, what state you're in, if you're a U.S. citizen or a legal permanent resident, you can donate. | ||
| It's DavidSeaman4Congress.com. | ||
| And you promise no diamond teeth. | ||
| You're not going to use this money for bitches. | ||
| No diamond teeth, not too much for strip clubs or like Elliot Spitzerhookers. | ||
| It's going to be above board. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| We support you, dude. | ||
| Thank you very much for coming on, and we'll do this again. | ||
| This is a lot of fun. | ||
| I think we barely scratched the surface. | ||
| We're trying to help you people in power. | ||
| Don't go chasing him and fucking tapping his phone line. | ||
| Just chill. | ||
| Get your own shit together, bitch. | ||
| It's you. | ||
| It's you running shit afraid of this young lion coming to show everybody what the fuck is up. | ||
| If this is War of Thrones, he'd be the goddamn hero. | ||
| Game of Thrones, whatever. | ||
| You know what I'm talking about. | ||
| Good night, everybody. | ||
| We'll see you soon. | ||
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| All right, you dirty bitches. | ||
| We'll see you tomorrow with Immortal Technique. | ||
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| Hopefully, folks, this week we'll have the lease signed on a new place, and I'll keep you guys updated on the studio that we're going to put together there and let bitches know. | ||
| All right, we love you guys, and we'll see you soon. | ||
| Thanks for all the positive energy and the tweets and the Facebook messages. | ||
| And I've been on Google Plus lately. | ||
| You guys are the shit. | ||
| I really appreciate that we have developed this very positive, helpful, cool community, very unusually cool community. | ||
| And don't think that we don't appreciate the fuck out of it. | ||
| Brian, I think I can speak for you as well, right? | ||
| Yeah, thank you, Death Squad Ohio. | ||
| All the people that came out, like 30 people came out, you know, just huge fans and just love us. | ||
| Yeah, thank you to everybody. | ||
| And we'll see you this weekend if you're if you're in Pasadena. | ||
| Friday and Saturday night, Duncan Trussell is not coming because he's scared of Brian. | ||
| But we're going to try to work that out. | ||
| All right, we love you guys. |
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