July 26, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| 2-1. | ||
| You're going to give me a 2-1? | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, and this is how it begins. | ||
| The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast is brought to you today. | ||
| We have a new sponsor today, Brian. | ||
| Oh, we do. | ||
| Just for today's show. | ||
| It's audible.com. | ||
| And if you're interested, if you travel, if you do anything where you're in your car and you're commuting, audiobooks are the shit. | ||
| I'm a fucking huge fan of audiobooks. | ||
| The Steve Martin one is the most highly recommended Audible book you can possibly get. | ||
| Is it him? | ||
| Because it's Steve Martin fucking doing it. | ||
| And it's like listening to a movie. | ||
| Because he's talking about his life. | ||
| It's brilliant. | ||
| He's one of those dudes that I would love to talk to, but I would never talk to him. | ||
| I'd be terrified. | ||
| That's my dream. | ||
| I think Braille is kind of tough on Audible, but other than that. | ||
| They don't have Braille on Audible, you silly goose. | ||
| Could they make Braille from the internet? | ||
| It's probably just a triangle sound. | ||
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Like, ding, ding, ding, ding. | |
| Like Morse code. | ||
| It's Morse code. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Is that possible? | ||
| I guess it is, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, if you look at, like, Sumerian text, all the old, the most ancient languages, it was a symbol, a bunch of, a series of the same symbols. | ||
| Like, ones and twos and threes. | ||
| Like, they didn't really vary that much. | ||
| They all pretty much look the same. | ||
| It's fucking crazy when you start and think about that. | ||
| You could make Braille. | ||
| Braille works. | ||
| It's just little dots, but that works too. | ||
| You could literally express your language through that. | ||
| The whole thing. | ||
| Yeah, the whole fucking thing. | ||
| That has nothing to do with Audible.com, though. | ||
| We got sidetracks, son! | ||
| Any way, Audible.com is a great resource for any audiobooks, and there's some that you can get from our friends that have been on the podcast for, like Bobcat Goldwaite. | ||
| He's got a great audiobook called, I Don't Mean to Insult You, But You Look Like Bobcat Goldwaite. | ||
| And it's narrated by him, so it's got to be awesome. | ||
| And you can get that on audible.com. | ||
| And if you are interested in, go to audible.com. | ||
| I can't even read anymore, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Oh, Joe, you need to start wearing glasses, man. | ||
| Audible Podcast. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Audiblepodcast.com forward slash Joe Rogan. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I need some reading glasses. | ||
| You know what you need to do? | ||
| You need to do what Ari does. | ||
| He goes and finds the coolest pair of sunglasses, you know? | ||
| And then he just busts out the frames and puts in... | ||
| Well, you know what it is? | ||
| This Alienware laptop has a super high resolution. | ||
| In my defense, the print is tiny, teensy-weensy. | ||
| It's really hard to read. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Totally is. | ||
| I fucked up. | ||
| I don't know how to fix it, though. | ||
| It's display properties. | ||
| I'm a Mac person. | ||
| I don't know how to use this nonsense. | ||
| Isn't it control panel display properties or something like that? | ||
| Or is that Mac? | ||
| I can't... | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I'll just deal with it. | ||
| Remember how the control panel in Windows turned into more of a weird list? | ||
| And it's like, wait, I need icons. | ||
| And you had to go back to Classic View. | ||
| Now I can't find Classic View in Windows 7. Can you? | ||
| I haven't even tried. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Anyway, go to audible.com, audiblepodcast.com, what? | ||
| No, audiblepodcast.com forward slash Joe Rogan, and go check out some of the cool books. | ||
| A book that I recommend, one of my favorite books is The War of Art, Winning the Inner Creative Battle. | ||
| It's by Steven Pressfield, and it's narrated by a dude named George... | ||
| I don't want to say his name wrong. | ||
| Guidal. | ||
| G-U-I-D-A-L-L. Guidal. | ||
| But that's one of my favorite, most inspirational books as far as creativity goes. | ||
| And it'd be even better if someone could say it for you. | ||
| You don't even have to use your eyeballs. | ||
| Audio books are better. | ||
| I just downloaded Sex at Dawn yesterday from Christopher Ryan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That guy was just on my friend Duncan's podcast. | ||
| And I'm going to try to get him on mine, too. | ||
| He sounds like a fascinating guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But your book, this is Rob Wolf we're talking to here, is not available on audio yet. | ||
| Not yet, soon. | ||
| Audible. | ||
| Well, get on it, son. | ||
| We're also brought to you by Onnit.com. | ||
| That's O-N-N-I-T, makers of Alpha Brain, New Mood, and Shroom Tech Sport. | ||
| And Shroom Tech Sport is the stuff that we were talking about that has the cordyceps mushrooms in it. | ||
| Totally legit. | ||
| It's legit. | ||
| It's not cheap, folks. | ||
| It's not cheap to get. | ||
| It's expensive stuff, but it really does work. | ||
| It's great for energy. | ||
| If you're a person who's into CrossFit or you're into Jiu Jitsu or something really intense, I really recommend Shroom Tech Sport. | ||
| You will feel a difference. | ||
| And it's not like an edgy difference, like a caffeine difference. | ||
| It's like a prolonged ability to work difference. | ||
| It's really interesting. | ||
| Wasn't it discovered by cattle people or something like that? | ||
| They noticed that their cows were eating them and being more active? | ||
| Cordyceps is an old traditional Chinese medicine gig. | ||
| Like, it's grown out of this fungus that grows on a caterpillar. | ||
| It's totally crazy. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So there's all kinds of weird stuff going on with it, but it's been in Chinese medicine for ages, and then Olympic athletes using it. | ||
| It does some cool stuff. | ||
| It's a fascinating way. | ||
| I mean, how do you find that out? | ||
| How many fuckers died eating weird things growing on caterpillars and stuff? | ||
| And they're like, dude, okay, this guy now is jacked and can run up the hill. | ||
| Yeah, how the fuck? | ||
| A weird mushroom that grows on a caterpillar. | ||
| That's so ridiculous. | ||
| It's caterpillar poop, bro. | ||
| It's caterpillar poop. | ||
| It's like moth poop. | ||
| You became enlightened by smoking moth poop. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| What the fuck is wrong with people? | ||
| How does anyone ever find that out with all the time in the earth? | ||
| I think you're really hungry that day. | ||
| Like, you're really hungry. | ||
| And they just notice that when they eat this certain caterpillar that has this funky smell to it, maybe, that's the cordyceps mushrooms on the caterpillar? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But how'd they figure out that it's the mushroom that does it, not the caterpillar? | ||
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Hmm. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Imagine if they fucked that up for a while and we were all just eating caterpillars hoping to get yoked. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| It's the other piece. | ||
| You're throwing away the wrong piece. | ||
| Eating shitty bugs. | ||
| Most bugs do not taste that bad, contrary to popular belief. | ||
| When we ate bugs on Fear Factor, I ate quite a few bugs. | ||
| They really don't taste bad. | ||
| It's the psychological thing. | ||
| The mouthfeel. | ||
| The crunchiness, but they're really bland. | ||
| They don't taste bad. | ||
| There's a lot of stuff that tastes a lot worse than bugs. | ||
| Anyway, on.com, go get yourself some Shroom Tech Sports, son. | ||
| Get your workout on. | ||
| We also have kettlebells and battle ropes in, which I just started using battle ropes. | ||
| I have never done that before. | ||
| But man, that's an awesome workout. | ||
| An awkward, weird workout, too. | ||
| It'll bust you up. | ||
| You're supposed to wear clothes, Joe. | ||
| No, man, I'm fucking... | ||
| I do a caveman style. | ||
| I think it's important. | ||
| Everything you do, you should be able to do naked. | ||
| But what battle ropes are is like 40-foot ropes. | ||
| They're big, thick, like the kind you'd use on a giant ship or some shit. | ||
| And you throw your arms around. | ||
| You do all these crazy exercises with them. | ||
| And it's amazing for endurance, man. | ||
| I mean, it really... | ||
| It really blows you out so fast. | ||
| And it's really grappling specific too. | ||
| You're pushing and pulling, you're stabilizing the midline, so yeah, they're good. | ||
| It seems like it would completely translate. | ||
| And between that, kettlebells, chin-ups, and bodyweight squats, that's pretty much all I do. | ||
| Everything I do is with kettlebells. | ||
| It's either kettlebells or battle ropes. | ||
| And battle ropes is a new thing. | ||
| It's like, I don't want to do anything else. | ||
| I have no time for... | ||
| There's not enough time in the world. | ||
| I want to be able to get strength and conditioning done quickly. | ||
| So for me, doing the whole body like as one big motion like that, you know, like kettlebell type stuff or cleaning jerks, you know, that to me is like, feels like the stuff that translates the most to real world strength. | ||
| Yeah, and it shouldn't take you that long too. | ||
| And you see a lot of people spend, particularly in the fighting scene, spending too much time in the gym and not enough time just refining skill set. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| They get to a point where they think that conditioning is the end all be all. | ||
| Until you fight a guy who's got great skill and conditioning. | ||
| And then you realize, well, nah, I fucked myself because I spent too many days running up hills and not enough days working on my head movement. | ||
| That has nothing to do with kettlebells. | ||
| And or battle ropes, which are for sale at Onnit.com. | ||
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It does. | |
| It's smart conditioning. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| All this stuff, when it comes to supplements, nootropics are a very controversial subject. | ||
| And because of that, we want to make sure that nobody ever feels ripped off. | ||
| You buy Alpha Brain, the first 30 pills uses a 100% money back guarantee. | ||
| If you don't like it, you don't even have to send the pills back to say this shit doesn't work. | ||
| It does. | ||
| That's why we're willing to do that. | ||
| And that's why I use it. | ||
| I wouldn't use it. | ||
| I wouldn't tell you to use it if I didn't believe in it. | ||
| I think there's a lot of essential nutrients that can benefit people. | ||
| And most people aren't taking them. | ||
| Fish oils and eating a healthy diet. | ||
| But there are certain nutrients that have been proven and shown in tests to have a positive effect on your mental clarity, your ability to solve problems, your ability to See things, like a recent ingredient in AlphaBrain, I don't even remember the name of this shit. | ||
| I should look it up. | ||
| Especially with you here, because you're super smart. | ||
| What's in this? | ||
| It's all like, it's nootropics. | ||
| It's all vitamins for mental function. | ||
| If you can read all the ingredients in this dark room, you're like an eagle-eyed motherfucker. | ||
| Yeah, it's a bunch of... | ||
| Bunch of stuff that stimulates dopamine release. | ||
| Yeah, it's all stimulating your neurotransmitters. | ||
| And for me, what it does is it helps... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It sounds ridiculous, but it helps things feel smoother. | ||
| It helps my thoughts flow better and smoother. | ||
| And we have a shitload of positive responses from people that have used it. | ||
| So if you're interested, check it out. | ||
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| All right, you freaks. | ||
| Rob Wolf is here. | ||
| We're ready to get this party started. | ||
| We're going to learn... | ||
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The Joe Rogan Experience. | |
| Train by day. | ||
| Joe Rogan Podcast by night. | ||
| All day. | ||
| Dude. | ||
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Hey. | |
| What the fuck did you do, Brian? | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| Thanks for doing this. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| I appreciate you coming on. | ||
| My pleasure, man. | ||
| You've sort of like this whole thing, this paleo solution. | ||
| Your book is like... | ||
| I think started like a new level of people thinking about health and about what the body is naturally supposed to be breaking down. | ||
| How did you do that? | ||
| How did you figure out what so many before hadn't? | ||
| Well, you know, I've got to give a bunch of credit to my professor, Loren Cordain, because he's the guy that did a ton of the research really early on. | ||
| So almost 15 years ago, further back than that, I was a California State powerlifting champion. | ||
| I was into kickboxing. | ||
| I was totally into athletics and all that. | ||
| And always trying to figure out what's the best way to fuel my body, like looking for better performance. | ||
| And I tried a high-carb, low-fat, vegan diet. | ||
| And I went from 185 pounds, able to back squat almost 600 pounds, down to 135 pounds, and like sick. | ||
| I had all kinds of gut problems, ulcerative colitis, irritable bowel, like all kinds of poop-related stuff. | ||
| And this idea of the paleo diet just... | ||
| It was kind of weird how it got onto my radar, but I was kind of thinking, okay, these Neolithic foods, grains, legumes, and dairy, seem to have some problems for us with regards to health. | ||
| And so I started eating that way, and then I was a research biochemist at the time doing lipid metabolism research related to cancer and autoimmune disease. | ||
| So I was able to experiment on myself and then also do some research And that's how I, you know, this whole kind of evolutionary biology thing got on my radar and opened a gym, started, you know, using this with our clients. | ||
| Our gym made Men's Health Top 30 Gyms in America within a couple of years. | ||
| And then the book has been on the bestseller list for like two years. | ||
| And like there's been no marketing budget, nothing other than just like word of mouth. | ||
| People buy the book, they get benefit, and then they, you know, they just go from there. | ||
| That's pretty incredible, man. | ||
| That's like a diet revolution. | ||
| And, you know, I've talked to a lot of fighters that take it. | ||
| I know Frank Mir is on a paleo diet. | ||
| I'm sure a lot of other ones are as well. | ||
| There's a ton of people, you know, and I just encourage people to tinker with something. | ||
| Like, there's a lot of guys doing vegan diets right now, and they see a performance boost. | ||
| That's totally cool. | ||
| Like, I think that people should get in, maybe get some blood work before they start a change. | ||
| Track biomarkers of health and disease. | ||
| Do it for 30 days. | ||
| See how they look, feel, and perform. | ||
| Check it again. | ||
| It should be really empirical. | ||
| There's some theory behind all this stuff, but you should really get in and it should be your personal experience that dictates this. | ||
| And if it's not making you perform better, if you don't sleep better, if your body comp isn't better, then do something else. | ||
| Is a paleo diet good for everybody? | ||
| Or are there some different body types that would enjoy a different diet? | ||
| Or do you think that's the optimum diet just for human beings? | ||
| I think it's good for everybody, but within that, some guys are going to do pretty well on low carb, other people are going to bonk, and they're going to do terribly. | ||
| Just for the total layman, when it comes down to nutrition, explain to people exactly what it means, the Paleo diet. | ||
| It means what people ate essentially during the Paleolithic period? | ||
| Yeah, and this is a period of time when we really changed from the previous ancestors when you look in the anthropological record. | ||
| And when you look at our genetics, it's pretty darn similar to what the people were living during the Paleolithic time. | ||
| And we can kind of verify that with different, like there's this place, the Max Planck Institute of Evolutionary Genetics in Leipzig, Germany, you know, and they do all the kind of scientific validation of this stuff. | ||
| But, you know, at Brasstacks, really, it's talking about eating lots of fruits and vegetables, roots and tubers, lean meats, and kind of steering away from grains, legumes, and dairy. | ||
| These newer foods that, for a lot of people, cause a lot of problems. | ||
| That's a fascinating thing when you think about it, how our technology and our ability to process food and grow food and store food has evolved much faster than the body is capable of doing on its own. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's kind of a fascinating thing with human beings, is that we essentially have the same bodies that cavemen did, but we have all this new stuff that we've sort of added to the mix, and we haven't really figured out what the long-term effects of this are. | ||
| Yeah, and you know, everything from sleep, like if you start doing some Googling around on like sleep and health, sleep and diabetes, you know, we don't sleep the way that we used to. | ||
| We used to, the sun went down and we went down. | ||
| You know, the sun comes up, we get up. | ||
| Now we have this extended photo period. | ||
| We have light on us all the time and it messes with our circadian rhythm, the way that we release melatonin, the way that we heal. | ||
| So, you know, the whole lifestyle package, exercise, nutrition, The lifestyle, the way that we don't really interact with a social group the way that, you know, it's kind of wired in. | ||
| I think that that's why things like CrossFit, different gyms, different social networks are really valuable for people. | ||
| Because we live in a, you know, we're tribal in our DNA. Like, we see that out. | ||
| And if you don't have it, it fucks with you. | ||
| Like, it damages you. | ||
| Wow, that's interesting. | ||
| So what's fun about CrossFit is that you become a part of a team and you all work together and you're like fellow CrossFitters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I see that for sure in Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| I see that in martial arts. | ||
| It's always been the case in martial arts. | ||
| You know, your gym becomes like your family. | ||
| Yeah, the exercise becomes almost secondary. | ||
| It's like making sure that you see people. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| That's definitely true. | ||
| It is fascinating how our needs are essentially the same, but wow, have we done a crazy job of changing our environment in such a short period of time. | ||
| It's almost like we just really can't keep up with that. | ||
| What we've been able to do, our body just can't keep up with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Plain travel and shit like that. | ||
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Right. | |
| And if you look at some native populations, they are crushed by type 2 diabetes and autoimmune diseases. | ||
| And they were eating basically a paleo-type diet maybe only a couple hundred years ago. | ||
| So depending on... | ||
| Your genetic ancestry, you might be able to deal with, you know, high fructose corn syrup or something a little bit better than somebody else that's maybe like Native American or African American because their ancestry is just young enough with regards to being exposed to this modern environment that they don't cope with it. | ||
| Like it's that much more damaging to them. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So, what about processed foods? | ||
| What about like ingredients of processed foods? | ||
| What are the long-term negative effects of, you know, you hear that processed foods are bad for people. | ||
| What are the long-term effects of eating something that has so much preservatives in it that it can just sit around? | ||
| You know, you just look around and you look at like the diabetes epidemic and, you know, autism spectrum accelerating. | ||
| It's just everything from cancer, diabetes, heart disease, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's. | ||
| All of this is related to this process called inflammation. | ||
| And inflammation is kind of an overactivity of the immune response. | ||
| And interesting with the Cordyceps product, it actually modulates the immune response. | ||
| It makes the immune system do what it's supposed to do. | ||
| Whether you're under stress or exercising or whatever, and that's kind of the benefit of that stuff. | ||
| And the negative part of the way that we're living, we don't get enough sleep, we eat the wrong types of foods, we don't really exercise enough, and all of that kind of sends a weird signal to our immune system, and it tends to make you diabetic, or it can make you autoimmune, or it can accelerate things like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. | ||
| So, you know, we're facing, there's some projections, and this is from like, you know, governmental agencies or as orthodox as it gets. | ||
| We're looking at by like 2030 that, you know, we're going to have a 300% of GDP being allocated to our debt, and then most of that being allocated to healthcare. | ||
| And it's nuts. | ||
| We know more about disease and cancer and everything than we've ever known, but yet people are getting sicker faster than they ever have. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| And it's just a lack of nutrition and the lack of supplying the body with what it's always had. | ||
| What it's really wired up to eat. | ||
| The essentials, the vegetables, the fresh vegetables and fresh meats. | ||
| Why does stuff that's processed taste so fucking good? | ||
| Why is Twinkie so delicious? | ||
| There's a bunch of food chemists that put all their kids through school by figuring out there's this thing called palatability. | ||
| And if you can make something hyperpalatable, like it tastes so good... | ||
| Then you actually override the mechanisms in the brain that normally tell you I'm full. | ||
| Like if you sit down and eat some chicken and some fruit and like some yams, you'll eat until you're full and you're done and you're not gonna get up and you know dust another plate of that. | ||
| But when you tinker with these foods and you make them really crunchy, you add some salt, you add some high fructose corn syrup, these things become hyper palatable and it turns off the part of the brain that tells you I'm full and it would be like You know, you're filling up your gas at the gas station, and if you turn off the mechanism to know when the gas tank is full, it's kind of the same analogy, like you just keep pumping stuff in there and you have a disaster brewing. | ||
| How much does someone get to be like 700 pounds? | ||
| And you see these people that have to get cut out of their houses. | ||
| Is that even possible without processed foods? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| And it's usually liquid foods. | ||
| That didn't exist before, right? | ||
| Just super rare. | ||
| You know, hospitals are retooling everything. | ||
| Hospitals, fire departments, police departments are being forced to retool everything that they have. | ||
| Their beds, their gurneys, even the openings in their doorways because people are getting so big. | ||
| And it never happened in the past. | ||
| You know, 1950s, it never really happened like that. | ||
| And we ate a little more fat. | ||
| We didn't have as much processed food. | ||
| We didn't have high fructose corn syrup. | ||
| People tended to sleep a little more. | ||
| Like, the sleep is big. | ||
| Even though I'm like the food guy, I'm always talking about sleep. | ||
| Because it just messes you up when you don't get enough. | ||
| When you look at those turn of the century people, they were all like little wiry dudes. | ||
| Looked like they could just work all day. | ||
| Little wiry dude, work all day. | ||
| And they did, yeah. | ||
| It's weird how much people have changed. | ||
| The average size for a man was like 125 pounds. | ||
| We don't realize how fucking big we've got. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And not good big. | ||
| Relatively quickly. | ||
| Not good big at all. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's weird that it can happen so quickly. | ||
| There's a photograph from the turn of the century. | ||
| And there was a guy who was a sideshow. | ||
| This guy who played the fat man in the sideshow. | ||
| I don't know if you've seen this. | ||
| The image came out kind of recently because it's ridiculous because the guy's not even that fat by today's standards. | ||
| There's no way you'd pay to see him. | ||
| But back then it was like, whoa, what the fuck is this? | ||
| He was literally a sideshow freak. | ||
| I guess you would have to eat insane amounts of like regular good healthy food to get that big. | ||
| And you know it's that thing again where like you just you get full from real food so it's really hard to overeat it but if you have something that turns off literally the mechanism in your brain that says I'm full like if that never kicks in then you can just keep going and going. | ||
| It's so creepy but yet so delicious. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Therein lies the problem. | ||
| It is so delicious. | ||
| Do you allow yourself cheat days where you eat shitty foods? | ||
| You know, I do some Mexican food and I do like some corn tortillas and stuff like that. | ||
| I'm super allergic to wheat. | ||
| So it's just, that stuff's just a no-go. | ||
| Like it can't happen. | ||
| No wheat at all? | ||
| None. | ||
| Your whole life? | ||
| You know, I was sick as a kid a lot and it was probably all like wheat and oats and stuff like that. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| So I'll kick my heels up, but I tend to like to burn my carbs more from booze versus crappy food. | ||
| So you actually count your carbs? | ||
| I don't really count it, but if I'm going to shit the bed on something, I'd rather it be alcohol than Twinkies or something. | ||
| Yeah, Twinkies is just a horrible feeling when it's over. | ||
| It's like, what did I do? | ||
| It's just so much disappointment, you know, when I eat like a ring ding or something like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| As soon as you're cleaning your fingers, I'm like, what the fuck, dude? | ||
| Really? | ||
| But then you want another one. | ||
| Yeah, I usually don't. | ||
| Usually I'm disgusted with myself after one. | ||
| And it's really hard to get a good night's sleep if you shit your bed also, I would imagine. | ||
| You need a lot of beds around. | ||
| Yeah, you need some options. | ||
| With Twinkies, is that what you're saying? | ||
| Twinkies make you shit yourself? | ||
| No, he said that if he's going to waste any of it, he'll shit the bed. | ||
| And then earlier he said that he needs a lot of sleep, which I agree. | ||
| I spend a lot of money on mattresses because I need a deep sleep. | ||
| And so I spend as much money as I can on just the bed. | ||
| I think that's... | ||
| So many people spend like $30,000 on a car and they're in it for like 10 minutes to go to work back and forth But you're in your bed half of your life, and people buy an $800 mattress with springs going up your ass and stuff like that. | ||
| You guys should have sleep numbers. | ||
| It seems like a fucking mattress shouldn't really cost more than $800. | ||
| It should. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Those Tempur-Pedics, it seems like they just sliced those bitches out of a box. | ||
| The Tempur-Pedics aren't that comfortable. | ||
| I just got a new mattress because I couldn't take the cat pee smell in my bed anymore. | ||
| Details. | ||
| He's been ignoring his cat, so his cat's been pissing in his bed. | ||
| So now I have this whole lockdown system with cats in my house, so they can't go into certain rooms anymore. | ||
| Oh, now they're going to hate you even more. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| One of them slapped me the other day, but it just came up to me for no reason. | ||
| It was like, smack, and then ran away. | ||
| I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| Wow, the tire of your bullshit. | ||
| You took away a spot where it was pissing. | ||
| I would be mad too. | ||
| It's like I was trying to piss in that bed, son. | ||
| But these new beds have like Tempur-Pedic and then the one I got has like a gel on top of it. | ||
| So it's like this weird gel that you're in. | ||
| It's like a little baby water bed. | ||
| Wow, you like it? | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty badass. | ||
| Do you recommend water beds? | ||
| Is it good to be in that womb-like environment? | ||
| You know, I like the sleep number, actually. | ||
| You like that thing? | ||
| Yeah, I like that thing, and I actually have mine like concrete. | ||
| Is that better for you? | ||
| It's like 95. I think it's kind of individual, but it is cool. | ||
| You can dial the thing up or down and make it fit for what you need. | ||
| I had one. | ||
| I didn't like it. | ||
| You didn't like it? | ||
| No. | ||
| What do you roll with? | ||
| I like a Tempur-Pedic better. | ||
| Yeah, I like a firm Tempur-Pedic better. | ||
| I just didn't like that one. | ||
| I've heard that you can avoid more kinks and neck things if you sleep in a harder mattress. | ||
| The harder the better. | ||
| Is that the case? | ||
| You know, it's kind of funny. | ||
| My pal is a total sleep expert, and I've grilled him on this stuff. | ||
| And he's like, you know, it just kind of depends on how you're wired up. | ||
| I think that, again, is trying to get in and do some personal experimenting. | ||
| And you should have a really good night's sleep. | ||
| You should wake up refreshed. | ||
| If you wake up and you're feeling like dog shit, then it was a bad bed. | ||
| You need something else. | ||
| But our house, we have like four spare bedrooms. | ||
| Each spare bedroom has like a $3,000 mattress in it from us trying... | ||
| These other beds. | ||
| And it's like, nah, that didn't work. | ||
| That didn't work. | ||
| And it's always the trial period is like, try it for 60 days, but you don't start feeling like shit until like 61 days. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if your bed has that like sinkhole, black hole thing that's in the middle because it's so old. | ||
| You gotta get rid of that. | ||
| You might get rid of it. | ||
| Yeah, because I found on my last bed, it had a mild version of that. | ||
| So I was always constantly like, Having to adjust my body a little just to get a more comfortable sleep because I slept on my stomach. | ||
| I always had neck pains on one side of my body from just adjusting. | ||
| And the cat pee tends to guide you. | ||
| That's a fucked up thing when you go to sleep and you hurt yourself while you're sleeping. | ||
| You just feel so stupid. | ||
| You wake up with a kink neck, you're like, come on, really? | ||
| I get charley horses all the time from dehydration. | ||
| What about hammocks? | ||
| Wouldn't that be the way to go? | ||
| A hammock might be cool. | ||
| You could check out a hammock. | ||
| A hammock would be sweet. | ||
| A hammock seems like the way to go. | ||
| Like a nice leather hammock in your bedroom. | ||
| Yeah, just sleep in a hammock, man. | ||
| It seems like it would support you, like, really kind of evenly. | ||
| You'd get pockets on the side of it. | ||
| Add one in high school. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| I just, like, nailed it up to the wall. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| How much sleep does a human being need? | ||
| Eight to ten. | ||
| Eight to ten. | ||
| In a pitch black room. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Period. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's like a no, you can't debate that, right? | ||
| You know, it's funny. | ||
| People will say, I only need like five or six hours of sleep. | ||
| And then inevitably, if they put up some blackout curtains, if they turn off all the lights and they actually get in an environment that's good for sleeping, then they're like, you know, ninja blow dart. | ||
| They're out for like 14 hours the first time you do it. | ||
| And then they start getting caught up on their sleep. | ||
| And these people that usually think they can get by on like 5 or 6, they discover they're like, okay, yeah, I feel way better on 8 to 10. I mean, it's a lot of time. | ||
| There's a lot of other shit you could be doing, but you just don't do it as well when you don't sleep. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| I'm a big fan of sleep, and if I don't, I've really felt, especially as I got older, when I was younger, I could pull it off more. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But now, as I get older, if I don't have a real, legit, solid eight-hour sleep, I just don't feel like I'm on top of things. | ||
| All cylinders are not firing, yeah. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| Even with a cup of coffee or whatever, or an exercise, it still never really quite feels right. | ||
| It's a weird thing that we just shut off. | ||
| Well, and that's why travel sucks, too, because your circadian, you know, that inner clock gets thrown off when you go east, particularly. | ||
| So, like, you go to the East Coast, you go to Europe, and you feel like shit. | ||
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So it really is. | |
| Going east is worse than going west. | ||
| You know, that's what they always said about Japanese fighters, that the problem they had in America, like, Phil Barone actually told me this. | ||
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| He said the problem they had in America is that when they would come here, like, coming to America completely fucks your system up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How is that possible? | ||
| You're just, you're completely flipped around. | ||
| It's like you're fighting then when you would normally be asleep. | ||
| And it takes weeks for all that to kind of get shifted around. | ||
| And once you, you know, you do that travel, say you go from Japan to here, you go from here to Europe, your testosterone levels drop, your inflammation goes up, your immune system goes down. | ||
| And it's going to stay that way for a while because it's a stress. | ||
| It's like the same way that working out or working too much is a stress on your system. | ||
| It's going to drop all of your recovery capacity. | ||
| Yeah, it's that internal clock that kind of gets tied into the sunlight and all that stuff. | ||
| Yeah, but it just drives everything. | ||
| All your hormones, neurotransmitters, the way your gut functions, everything is tied into these internal clocks. | ||
| So if a fighter wanted to acclimate when he came to somewhere he was going to fight, should he go there at the beginning of his training camp and never leave? | ||
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I would. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I wouldn't... | ||
| If you have it in your control... | ||
| I wouldn't travel more than three hours if you had control. | ||
| Like, if you have a well-established fighter, if they need to travel more than three hours and, you know, three time zone changes, then I would really recommend, you know, the camp at least a couple of weeks beforehand gets moved, but possibly from the beginning so that you've got the continuity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's an element that, you know, the rest element is one that really doesn't get quite enough credit. | ||
| It doesn't get quite enough importance. | ||
| Everyone's always looking for something that you can eat that can give you energy. | ||
| Something that you can eat that'll clean you out and get you straight. | ||
| But really, one of the most important things is just shutting down. | ||
| The fuck down and just sleep it. | ||
| If you sleep well, it's hard to kill you. | ||
| If you're not sleeping well, it's almost impossible to keep you alive. | ||
| It's huge. | ||
| And you sound like a nutcase recommending this, but it's kind of like my greasy used car salesman pitch is like, dude, sleep more. | ||
| Whether it's clients trying to lean out or somebody trying to get better performance for fighting. | ||
| We had a girl that missed Olympic trials for the 2,000-meter row by a hundredth of a second. | ||
| And when you're at that level where she didn't go to the Olympics by one one-hundredth of a second, you need all your I's dotted and T's crossed. | ||
| She sleeps well, she eats paleo, she does all this stuff, but she still got edged out. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| When you think about your life being about performing to one one-hundredth of a second better, then everything you do has to be dead on. | ||
| You'd be a paranoid freak. | ||
| You could be crazy. | ||
| She's been kind of crazy at times. | ||
| Yeah, monitoring that. | ||
| I honestly don't like... | ||
| Monitoring super high-level athletes because it is so fucking stressful. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Because if I shit the bed on something, there's the whole part of me doing something wrong and then feeling guilty for it and then wanting to kill me. | ||
| And then there's the other side where you're investing hugely in this person. | ||
| And if they don't comply with what I want them to do, I want to kill them. | ||
| Because I know how important this stuff is. | ||
| And if they're like, I'm going to go out and drink anyway or I'm going to work on some other projects. | ||
| That is a thing that drives... | ||
| There's a guy named Mike Dolce who works with a lot of fighters. | ||
| If the guys don't listen to him, he's like, I don't even know why they fucking brought me here. | ||
| It's just been pointless. | ||
| Some people don't want to hear it. | ||
| They still want to do what they want to do. | ||
| Especially fighters. | ||
| Fighters have this mindset of... | ||
| If you like getting hit, I mean, there's a whole other wiring that goes on. | ||
| It's not even that. | ||
| It's like they have a crazy sort of confidence that nothing will ever go wrong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| To some degree, you need that. | ||
| I think the people that are able to take that confidence but then also understand what a good coach can bring to the table. | ||
| To some degree, step back and give up some of that responsibility. | ||
| It's like, okay, you're my coach. | ||
| I'm going to listen to you. | ||
| I don't need to worry about all the details. | ||
| I feel like fighters who are self-coached only reach a certain level. | ||
| You know, you've had some problems. | ||
| If you're self-coached, it's really hard to objectively stand back and look at your game when it's not going right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, but a real, true professional, a guy who's worked guys through many levels of advancement and growth, he can see, like, issues. | ||
| He can find things that you're doing wrong. | ||
| And just, I think for an athlete, I think it's important to relent to a mentor as well. | ||
| I think you have to have someone else who you also have faith in what they have to say as well, so you're not in it by yourself. | ||
| It takes away some of the psychological burden, especially for combat sports. | ||
| I think it's very important for guys. | ||
| Some guys don't like to do it though. | ||
| They want to do everything themselves. | ||
| Yeah, but the jack of all trades, you don't go anywhere. | ||
| If you're supposed to fight, then you fight. | ||
| And you eat, sleep, and shit that. | ||
| And then somebody else monitors your food. | ||
| Somebody keeps an eye on your sleep. | ||
| You've got somebody ideally taking care of the financial side of your life and everything so that you can just focus on that one thing. | ||
| And you've got to put all of those pieces in play. | ||
| Yeah, and especially when you're thinking about fighting where the consequences are so much greater than the one one-hundredth of a second in rowing. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| The one one-hundredth of a second, you lose that. | ||
| You're like, ah, shit, what could I have done differently? | ||
| I should have used fluoride-less toothpaste. | ||
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Right. | |
| You start thinking crazy shit. | ||
| But when someone, that one one-hundredth of a second is someone connecting or, you know, spotting your punch, getting out of the way just in time and countering you, and you get knocked out. | ||
| Then it becomes even more crazy and even more obsessive. | ||
| Have you worked with Finders? | ||
| You know Glenn Cordoza, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know Glenn? | ||
| So we worked with Glenn. | ||
| And then just more kind of internet coaching, you know, trying to Folks have come to me when people weren't recovering, they were starting to get a ton of soft tissue injuries, bad sleep started popping up, you know, like they started getting some depression during training camp and everything and so looking at the diet, looking at lifestyle factors and I mean It all boils down to the same thing, though. | ||
| A clean diet, obviously I'm going to gear more towards a paleo gig. | ||
| Protecting the sleep area at gunpoint. | ||
| People sleep eight to ten hours if you have to kill somebody. | ||
| And then just kind of a mellow lifestyle outside the rest of that to the best of your ability to construct that. | ||
| I mean, it's 50% of your recovery probably is having that sleep. | ||
| So you can go in and train really hard and then go home and not sleep and you don't get really any of the benefit from the training session, even if you're working skills. | ||
| Say you're working a bunch of head movement and stuff like that. | ||
| That is all a skill that needs to go from one part of your brain to another. | ||
| It goes from short-term memory to long-term memory and starts getting You know, woven into like your brainstem. | ||
| It's a learned pattern. | ||
| If you don't sleep, you don't access that transition. | ||
| So it's like that training session then is just gone. | ||
| It's as if you didn't even do it. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| So it's like if you're going to spend the time to do it, there's a great book, another good dude you should have on that wrote The Talent Code. | ||
| And talking about like needing really good repetitions and like 10,000 repetitions in something like playing violin or learning, you know, quick draw shooting and stuff like that. | ||
| You want to do it perfect and then you need a good environment for that stuff to kind of cook in the brain and actually become a part of your person, part of the motor memory. | ||
| So it's a huge part of the game that people are just kind of, again, shitting the bed on. | ||
| You see so many people work so hard, but they almost work too hard, and then they don't give enough credence to the rest because it's like, oh, that's being lazy. | ||
| I need this work ethic. | ||
| They go all Dan Gable on you, just to push to your break. | ||
| There's a lot of wrestlers who I think that is the most overtrained and undernourished sport. | ||
| When it comes to amateur sports. | ||
| And they're tough. | ||
| They're used to being tough. | ||
| That's why they're so dangerous when they become MMA fighters. | ||
| It's because their level of mental toughness is, I believe, above and beyond any other sport. | ||
| I think the highest levels of wrestling, I think they're the most mentally tough guys in the world. | ||
| They're fucking animals. | ||
| Those guys, they don't eat for days. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then they go and wrestle savages, you know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, just the weight cutting alone, the fact that they have to be miserable and malnourished and dehydrated in training. | ||
| It's really hard, but that's not the way to do it, right? | ||
| If you want optimum performance, it's great that it makes them so tough, but if you really want to take care of the body, that is so not the way to do it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, staying in close to contest shape year-round, kicking your heels up a little bit, but the thing is that when people go so extreme, then when they're off-season, they gain 30 pounds of weight, and it's all hookers and cocaine. | ||
| It's a bad scene there. | ||
| But what about the overtraining? | ||
| There's a certain point of no return, right? | ||
| Where you're actually doing damage to your conditioning. | ||
| It's really common, too. | ||
| It's super common. | ||
| The people who manage it well... | ||
| Those are the folks that succeed, I think, more often. | ||
| And the people who manage it well are certainly the ones who protect their conditioning year-round. | ||
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| They don't ever let themselves get out of condition. | ||
| It's a very difficult and disciplined thing to maintain, to maintain a real high level of conditioning. | ||
| But if you don't have a high level, you can't push to a higher level. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And for a lot of people, it's like when you attain a certain level, then you drop off drastically. | ||
| And then it's all about getting your body back in shape. | ||
| Like guys who get really big in between fights, like you know that those guys, like that's not the same level of commitment as say an Anderson Silva or George St. Pierre. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're never going to see those guys fat. | ||
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Right. | |
| You're never going to go see those guys in between fights, just drinking and fucking around. | ||
| There's none of that going on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're protecting their vehicle. | ||
| And so even though they're still obviously moving a lot of scale weight to make weigh-ins, it's not as dramatic a shift. | ||
| And just like when we travel, whenever you change these internal kind of signaling, the biological signaling, when you fly You know, from six time zones or eight time zones, that messes with your sleep. | ||
| If you are taking your body and forcing it to shed a bunch of weight very, very rapidly because you got out of shape, then it's more of a stress and it drops testosterone. | ||
| It impacts your immune system. | ||
| So staying as close as you can, you know, obviously like you want to be as big and strong and muscular as you can at any given body weight. | ||
| But within striking distance, being able to go down and make weight when you need to make it. | ||
| When you see guys, I don't know how aware you are, there's some crazy weight cutters out there. | ||
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| The most recent one that I heard of is Travis View. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Fought in Bellator at 245 pounds in the cage. | ||
| 205 is what he weighed in at. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's fucking crazy! | ||
| I mean, that is fucking crazy. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, there's some science to it. | ||
| You need somebody there with your IVs and all the rest of it. | ||
| But holy shit, what a nutty idea, the fact that you're almost dead 24 hours before you have a cage fight. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I think it'd be cool to just see it almost like Jits, where you show up and you step on the scale and you weigh what you weigh and then it just goes. | ||
| Yeah, I would like to see that too, but you can't do that if you have contracts. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, because dudes, if they don't have any consequences for not being at a certain weight, dudes are just going to get huge. | ||
| I mean, there's a benefit to just putting on muscle mass. | ||
| You know, the 147 weight class, you show up at 160 pounds, swole as fuck. | ||
| Like, what the hell's going on? | ||
| But I mean, then those guys would have to fight like 155s or 170s or something. | ||
| But you couldn't do that in the world of championship fighting. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because, you know, you obviously have to schedule it long in advance. | ||
| You have to put it on pay-per-view. | ||
| So you've got to have weight classes. | ||
| But there's no way to stop people from cutting weight if that's going to be the case. | ||
| The good thing that they've done is at least give them 24 hours to rehydrate. | ||
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| Which they didn't used to do. | ||
| The old days of boxing used to weigh in the day of the fight. | ||
| And guys would dehydrate, make weight, and then drink milk and eat cheese and meat or something stupid. | ||
| And be all fucked up by the time they got into the... | ||
| Still dehydrated. | ||
| Yeah, completely. | ||
| Does the IV dehydrate, when they rehydrate with IVs, does it replenish the brain as well? | ||
| Well, it replenishes everything, but I mean, the body's in a pretty rough state by that point, so I mean, it's 24 hours you can bounce back pretty good, and particularly, you know, like you said, with wrestlers, they've been used to pulling their body up and down like that, so they're a little bit more acclimatized to it, but it's rough. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| How much of a percentage do you think it takes away from them? | ||
| It's got to be a damage. | ||
| I mean, if you're not supposed to get drunk while you're in training camp and you eat clean and everything like that, and then you do something way worse than getting drunk, you get crazy dehydrated. | ||
| I've seen guys shuffling to the scale because they can't pick their feet up. | ||
| I've seen that. | ||
| And they were going to fight in a world championship the next day. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| And that's where, you know, are they as lean as they could be? | ||
| You know, just day in and day out. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| Because it takes something off. | ||
| It takes something off. | ||
| And then you just have to wonder, is it taking an equal amount out of both parties? | ||
| Because that's crazy. | ||
| I mean, there's got to be a way to find people that are really the same size and just make some sort of an honorable agreement to never get over a certain weight. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And just do it at the weight you actually are at. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, in some ways I think it would be more exciting fighting because a lot of the fatigue that I see set in in folks, it's probably the weight cut. | ||
| Oh, well, you saw like Chris Weidman and Damian Maia. | ||
| I don't know if you saw that, but it was on Fox. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, Damian Maia really just couldn't do anything with Weidman, and Weidman was way too tired from the weight cut because he took the fight on really short notice. | ||
| So the guy had to cut some insane amount of weight the day before. | ||
| And that's what they kept saying to him. | ||
| I saw what you did yesterday when you made weight. | ||
| You know, you can do anything. | ||
| You can do anything. | ||
| So the guy in the weight cup must have been death-like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then here he is fighting on Fox, you know, the next day, 24 hours later. | ||
| It's really a weird practice. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I wish we could avoid it, but I don't know how, because you have to have weight classes, right? | ||
| There's no way a guy like Joey Benavidez should be fighting Brock Lesnar, right? | ||
| So we've got to have weight classes. | ||
| This isn't 1993. Right. | ||
| So if you're going to have weight classes, it's like, how do you set them up? | ||
| Would you set them up ideally every 10 pounds, every 5 pounds? | ||
| How do you set them up to keep people from cutting the weight? | ||
| I don't think you can. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I mean, again, you would do it more like a jiu-jitsu tournament where you weigh the weight. | ||
| But how could you do that with a championship fight? | ||
| Because if the guy didn't make the weight and everybody flew in from Australia to see the fight, you know what I mean? | ||
| Probably like curbside execution then. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's like you get killed if you don't make weight. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And even then, they would try to be as big as possible. | ||
| There's an advantage to being big. | ||
| Look at what it's done to Aleister Overeem. | ||
| There's Aleister Overeem 1, where he was a really good fighter, very skilled. | ||
| And there's Aleister Overeem 2, where he's this fucking behemoth that's smashing people and winning the K-1 Grand Prix. | ||
| And the only difference between those is a lot of fucking muscle. | ||
| A lot of experience and a lot of muscle. | ||
| It's amazing how much it does for a really technical guy when they get strong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, that shit's... | ||
| So, how are you going to have a weight class? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| How are you going to have them weigh in the same day? | ||
| Dude's going to, oh, sorry, I'm 20 pounds overweight. | ||
| Not much I can do about it now. | ||
| I mean, we wouldn't want me to dehydrate and risk dying. | ||
| What the fuck do you get them to do? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Other than, again, the curbside execution, you know, part of your contract, you're like, you're going to make weight or... | ||
| It should be some sort of samurai type thing. | ||
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| Or it should be an honorable... | ||
| Sipaku out there, yeah. | ||
| No, not even that. | ||
| I'm saying, like, the contract to fight. | ||
| It should be, like, no one should ever miss weight. | ||
| It should always be, like, really, really clean and easy and everyone's just, this is what you weigh. | ||
| And then you go and fight. | ||
| That would be the ideal thing to do. | ||
| The danger is, apparently, with dehydration... | ||
| That's when most of the boxing brain damage fights where guys have died. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gerald McClellan was a famous weight cutter. | ||
| He's a really big guy. | ||
| A lot of those guys in the heavyweight division really never had the same problems that guys in the lighter weight divisions did. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a very unfortunate aspect of fighting, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you're already taking something that's pretty rough and dangerous. | ||
| Scary and dangerous. | ||
| Making it way more. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What are the physical effects of dehydration on the brain? | ||
| Because that's where it gets really weird, right? | ||
| You could have electrolyte imbalances where things are just literally not firing and your heart may not fire properly. | ||
| But I think a lot of it is just that fluid around the brain is the shock absorber. | ||
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| So if you pull some of that away, then the brain is literally... | ||
| You've almost got... | ||
| It's kind of like a walnut that fills the whole shell. | ||
| You shake it and nothing happens. | ||
| Whereas if you've got maroon in there and then you get hit... | ||
| Then you're driving the skull into the brain at a very high velocity, which sounds bad. | ||
| I mean, you literally have less fluid up there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then what about with IVs? | ||
| Does that replace it? | ||
| It does, but I mean, 24 hours is a pretty good period. | ||
| And I'm not super up on this, but you could take somebody who's extremely dehydrated 24 hours later. | ||
| They're pretty good, but they're still after effects. | ||
| You know, I think you could probably find things in blood work that a week later, you know, like if you just shrink wrap a guy down, like you do the usual, you know, like 20-pound weight cut that you see in a lot of these fighters for like a 200-pound guy or something, 10% or more of body weight, I bet we could see things in their blood work a week later. | ||
| Like they don't fight, they just weight cut, and then we see what changes in their blood work. | ||
| I bet we could see bad stuff in their blood work a week later. | ||
| Like it leaves an impact on us. | ||
| How do you stop people from doing it then? | ||
| I mean, education? | ||
| Let fighters think about their career holistically? | ||
| Because the reality is, competitively, there is an advantage to cutting the weight. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And I think you get as big as you can, as lean as you can, and then kind of see where that... | ||
| But then, you know, doing some field testing where you practice it. | ||
| Say like you've got some sort of a... | ||
| A metabolic workout, you know, like whether it's pads and bags or whether it's a CrossFit looking thing or something, but you've got a standard and so you weight cut at a certain starting weight, go down, rehydrate, do your whole, you know, your whole rehydration process, see how you do on this kind of standardized workout, and then maybe you gain a little bit more weight, a little bit more muscle. | ||
| Is it that much more difficult to go down and does it actually then tank your performance? | ||
| So I think you've got to get in and do some field testing, but it's hard to do that. | ||
| You know, you're already trying to get ready for fight camps and do everything else. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| I think that's one of the things that you brought up earlier. | ||
| Such a good point that too many fighters concentrate on conditioning instead of concentrating on skill work. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That skill work for someone who's doing something as crazy as a combat sport, it is the most important thing. | ||
| If you look at the best guys, they're not necessarily... | ||
| Like Anderson Silva, in my opinion, is the greatest... | ||
| He's not the strongest guy in the world. | ||
| He's obviously a strong guy. | ||
| But he's insanely technical. | ||
| So technical. | ||
| Everything moves fluidly. | ||
| He never has stamina problems. | ||
| He fights deep into the fifth round. | ||
| He's super efficient. | ||
| Super efficient. | ||
| George St. Pierre is another one. | ||
| It's a fascinating thing that George St. Pierre does not do any strength and conditioning during his fight camps. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He says he doesn't believe in it. | ||
| He says he might lift a little weight. | ||
| He goes, but to do that for my look, to look good. | ||
| But he's being serious. | ||
| Everything he does is wrestling, kickboxing, jiu-jitsu. | ||
| And when you look at the demands of that, how much more can you do? | ||
| If you're smart. | ||
| And just a little bit of strength or power training, a little bit of mobility work. | ||
| But let's say you want to do some cardio. | ||
| As a fighter, are you better off getting out and running? | ||
| Are you better off having somebody hold pads for you? | ||
| and you go at like 50% and you just, you get your heart rate up a little bit, you know, it's like, you know, 70, 75% of your VO2 max or whatever, but you do a little bit of that. | ||
| You do a little bit of positional sparring on the ground. | ||
| You do a little bit of clench work, but it's all at a very controlled pace. | ||
| Like are you going to get more out of that or out of putting on your sneakers and going for a run? | ||
| The only thing you get good out of going for a run is I find running to be like a form of moving meditation. | ||
| Okay, I'd buy that. | ||
| And I think that I go over things when I do just straight cardio work. | ||
| Where it's forcing me into the monotony of even just sitting on an elliptical machine. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It just forces me to think about stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because I'm like, I'm not doing anything other than this for 30 minutes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let's see what the fuck's going on in my head. | ||
| And then I think that might be a benefit to athletes. | ||
| Because I think... | ||
| A lot of athletes don't spend enough time visualizing. | ||
| They spend enough time thinking about the techniques and going over things in their head. | ||
| And they've shown a direct correlation between visualization and improvement in technique that's on par with practice. | ||
| That's actually doing it, yeah. | ||
| But very few people will actually go over a whole routine in their head. | ||
| Like, say if you were a wrestler and you had a series of takedowns and you put yourself into a state of concentration where you're only thinking about your wrestling and then All you do is concentrate on this power double over and over again. | ||
| See yourself penetrating, see yourself sliding off that knee, getting your hands clasped together. | ||
| If you really spent the time, like a whole full hour and a half of nothing but that, just like you would do if you were training nothing but that, I think that is a fascinating exercise to see how much it would improve a guy maybe who's not doing that, who's already very good. I think that is a fascinating exercise to see how Right. | ||
| Someone who has a hard time seeing a next plateau. | ||
| But it's a good point, too. | ||
| You've always got risk of injury, even holding pads, even doing positional sparring. | ||
| So it's actually a good point. | ||
| Like you could sit down on the elliptical. | ||
| And then do some low-level cardio, but you're not watching TV during that thing. | ||
| You're thinking through your fight strategy, whatever it is that's in your B game that you're trying to bring up, and you're really visualizing that. | ||
| You've got to think about the feel, the smell. | ||
| You've got to visualize it as detailed as you can to get the most benefit, but you're totally spot on. | ||
| There's good stuff. | ||
| And there's always dudes that either annoy you that you can think of when you're doing it, Or dudes who you're scared of rolling with. | ||
| Like there's certain dudes that I know that I fucking hate rolling with. | ||
| These motherfuckers don't get tired. | ||
| They're trying to kill you. | ||
| You're going to war for the next nine minutes or whatever it is. | ||
| So I always think of those motherfuckers trying to choke me. | ||
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| You know, there's something you can get out of just a straight cardio exercise, I think mentally and physically. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I love doing, at hotel rooms, I don't like doing this at home because it's kind of boring compared to other shit I can do, but I do this crazy elliptical workout where I'll sprint for 30 seconds, and then I'll relax for 30 seconds, and then I'll sprint for 30 seconds, and I just do as many rounds of that as I can. | ||
| And it's fucking horrendous. | ||
| Like, I don't like doing it. | ||
| Like, it's so hard to do that when I see one of these things at a hotel gym, I'm like, alright, you motherfucker. | ||
| I was hoping I would walk in and it would just be like a universal machine. | ||
| But if there's an elliptical machine, we've got to go to war. | ||
| I've got to do my thing. | ||
| That's what I do at every hotel that has this elliptical machine. | ||
| So it's become like this battle of man versus machine. | ||
| But it's a brutal workout of just a silly little elliptical machine. | ||
| I mean, you put that all-out effort into it, and that interval training is nasty. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| You've got to crank the power up, the resistance up, super high, and you go to war for 30 seconds. | ||
| You've just got to go crazy for 30 seconds, and then crank that bitch back down to 8 or 9 or 7 or something, relax, and you do that for the next 30 seconds, and then right back up again. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Just keep doing it. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| Yeah, I think I would like doing curls on the Universal Machine. | ||
| Better? | ||
| Yeah, that sounds like a lot more fun. | ||
| Curls on the Universal Machine was so unrealistic. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It was so nonsensical. | ||
| And the bench press where it kind of turns up like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I remember we had those in high school. | ||
| In the high school wrestling room, there was like a fitness area. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A big Universal Machine. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| This dude named Frank Peace could do the stack. | ||
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| Frank Peace got on there and he could do the whole stack. | ||
| He was a really fucking strong kid. | ||
| Everyone was like, oh shit. | ||
| How much can you bench? | ||
| That was the big question. | ||
| And they would use universal numbers. | ||
| It's like 600 pounds universal or 200 pounds real. | ||
| Isn't that funny? | ||
| That it's easier to push things as long as you don't have to balance them. | ||
| But you have to balance them and push things. | ||
| That's when shit gets slippery. | ||
| It's hard to wrap your head around why a universal machine really wouldn't work. | ||
| But it's okay to do something on, right? | ||
| I mean, it's better than nothing, yeah, totally. | ||
| And you're on the road a lot, just like I am. | ||
| It's brutal, right? | ||
| You get done what you can get done, yeah. | ||
| Do you have a hotel workout that you do? | ||
| It depends on where the place is. | ||
| Like, if it's totally just nothing going on, then I'll just do some sprints, like in the stairwell and stuff like that. | ||
| And then I do some handstand push-ups, maybe some L-sit press-to-handstand and chairs doing some gymnastic stuff. | ||
| But it really depends. | ||
| I've been hitting, like, double trees now because they usually have a half-decent gym. | ||
| And then, like, you can swing some dumbbells like you do with kettlebells and just get some basic strength training in and then do some intervals on, like, a StairMaster or an elliptical. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, if I don't work out when I'm on the road, I feel twice as bad. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's definitely something that goes on when your body goes to a new place where if you do get a good workout in, it sort of makes everything feel okay. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Sort of like a little bit of a reset. | ||
| If I fly into Dallas or something, I'm a little foggy from the trip. | ||
| If I hit the gym hard... | ||
| It just whoop, sort of... | ||
| Pulls you back. | ||
| Yeah, sort of levels it off. | ||
| What is going on when that happens? | ||
| Is it just an endorphin rush from the training? | ||
| You know, heating up your body, you crank up all the metabolic processes going on. | ||
| So it definitely, you know, the endorphin rush is nice because you just feel better from that. | ||
| But whenever you heat your body up, you are kind of accelerating all the processes in the body. | ||
| And so you're going to acclimate a little better. | ||
| Taking some melatonin when you travel, that helps reset things, but exercise has been known for a long time to help. | ||
| If you didn't exercise and you did a USA to Europe travel, it's going to take longer to get acclimated versus if you exercised every day. | ||
| Now, if you go to a place and you settle in and you do exercise and you do take melatonin to sleep, what is the best case scenario for you settling into a new time zone? | ||
| Like if someone goes from California to New York... | ||
| You know, three time zones isn't too bad. | ||
| It'd probably be a couple of days. | ||
| If you go six to nine time zones, it's going to take a week, at least. | ||
| And you're probably going to feel pretty rough. | ||
| And if you're younger, it's not going to be as bad. | ||
| If you're older, I had friends that went to Australia. | ||
| When they came back, they were fucked. | ||
| They were fucked for a while. | ||
| I haven't been the same in two weeks, man. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And you get out and exercise. | ||
| Ideally, you get outside during the evening when the sun is setting. | ||
| The communication of the light into the brain kind of resets some stuff that is really important for normal sleep. | ||
| So you should actually watch the sun turn into darkness? | ||
| Ideally be outside. | ||
| That's what the sun lamps are good for. | ||
| What are the sun lamps? | ||
| They're like these lamps that simulate the sun. | ||
| They glow really bright. | ||
| You can wake up to it. | ||
| It's an alarm clock almost. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And they start getting brighter and brighter and brighter. | ||
| And you wake up with this huge glowing light in your bedroom. | ||
| And it just kind of makes you feel. | ||
| It tricks your body. | ||
| People in Alaska have these lights all the time because of the... | ||
| The periods of time when it's pitch black. | ||
| Or always daylight, too. | ||
| Doesn't it reverse there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's both, right? | ||
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| It's a nutty motherfucking place to live. | ||
| Have you ever seen the show Mountain Man? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a great fucking show. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| It's my new favorite show. | ||
| That guy Marty who lives in Alaska? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you haven't seen the show, folks, it's about three different dudes who live. | ||
| One's North Carolina, one's Montana, one's Alaska. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Alaska dude flies everywhere in a plane, goes for hours to be away from his family, or, excuse me, months, rather, to be away from his family, and just traps animals. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's 24 miles on a fucking, one of those, what are those, snowmobile things? | ||
| Snowmobile things? | ||
| It's craziness. | ||
| Like, you know, you think you got it hard? | ||
| This guy makes a living killing little animals and selling their skins three hours by plane from his house. | ||
| All to escape his family. | ||
| Probably, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's probably bullshit, right? | ||
| Yeah, well, I gotta do what I gotta do. | ||
| Meanwhile, he could be trapping, like, right next to his fucking house. | ||
| Think about how many goddamn animals there are in Alaska. | ||
| Why do you have to go to the middle of nowhere in your plane? | ||
| Yeah, he's probably up there beating off. | ||
| Trapping Squatch. | ||
| And he just comes over there. | ||
| Just a stack of porn. | ||
| Why is the plane so heavy this time? | ||
| I don't know! | ||
| Couldn't find anything different. | ||
| Magazines on one side, Vaseline on the other. | ||
| It's just all DVDs. | ||
| All porno DVDs. | ||
| All Asian, too. | ||
| You don't find any Asian chicks up in Alaska, do you? | ||
| Very rare, unless they literally walk there from Asia on the Bering Strait, like the Inuits. | ||
| What if they have like the best Asian and we didn't even know this whole time? | ||
| A new type of Asian? | ||
| It's like their secret. | ||
| I see what you're trying to say. | ||
| Alaska Asian. | ||
| Alaska Asian. | ||
| It is weird though. | ||
| Alaska's not attached. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Like how can you claim something that's attached to another fucking country? | ||
| You know, nobody wanted it. | ||
| It's awesome! | ||
| How could you not want it? | ||
| Why would nobody want it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They don't want to get eaten. | ||
| They bought it for cheap back in the day, though. | ||
| This dude who lives up there, man, this guy's a lokester. | ||
| That's a crazy life. | ||
| And he does it every year. | ||
| Same thing every year. | ||
| He was outside, he was like 50 below zero. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like you could piss and it's going to be frozen before it hits the ground. | ||
| Yeah, that's amazing. | ||
| Maybe you could, not me, bro. | ||
| My piss is alive. | ||
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It's hot. | |
| My piss will fight it off. | ||
| Do you ever drink your own piss? | ||
| I do not. | ||
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You do not. | |
| That would be a quote in the bottom of someone at the message boards. | ||
| It would be someone's signature. | ||
| Brian Redman, do you drink piss? | ||
| Joe drinks his own piss, isn't that crazy? | ||
| No, I have. | ||
| I have drunk my own piss. | ||
| I don't do it on a regular basis, Brian. | ||
| I am part of the lunatic fringe, but I haven't gone down that route, so yeah. | ||
| It really doesn't even taste that bad. | ||
| It's like bugs. | ||
| It's all in your head. | ||
| Doesn't taste bad at all, but I read some shit like a new Lyoto Machida drinks his own piss. | ||
| Does it every morning. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Coming to his father. | ||
| What's the fuck Juan Manuel Marquez is famous for drinking his own piss, the boxer? | ||
| Yeah, there's this idea of urine therapy. | ||
| There's vitamins and nutrients that go through your body that don't get used by your body, but they're in your piss, but they will get used if you drink your piss. | ||
| Does that sound retarded? | ||
| There's some possibility there. | ||
| If your wife or girlfriend is pregnant, then HCG, human chorionic gonadotropin, is a hormone that stimulates testosterone release also. | ||
| So you could collect their urine because the HCG is really high in the pregnant chicks and then concentrate it down and get jacked from that. | ||
| Wow, you get jacked from your wife's piss. | ||
| Who would have thought? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Maybe that's where it all started from. | ||
| Dudes are smart. | ||
| They knew what the fuck was up. | ||
| Jimmy Norton's on to something. | ||
| He's going to be all buff any day now. | ||
| That'd be huge. | ||
| That's why his neck's so big. | ||
| I wonder how the fuck anybody ever figured that out. | ||
| That there's any sort of vitamins and nutrients to be had in drinking your own urine. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's like the cordyceps. | ||
| Like, why did this guy eat the, you know... | ||
| Caterpillar with the fungus on it. | ||
| I just think people had lower standards in the past. | ||
| Like, if you don't know about hygiene and bacteria and stuff like that, like, anything goes. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, why not? | ||
| Drink some piss. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know for when people that take mushrooms, that's supposed to be the end-all experience is you recycle your urine while you're tripping. | ||
| And apparently there's more psilocin or psilocybin or whatever the fuck the psychoactive ingredient is in the urine. | ||
| So as you drink it, it gets reabsorbed and it shoots you to the center of the universe. | ||
| Usually, though, when I'm on mushrooms, the last thing I can do is drink or eat or especially my piss. | ||
| Drinking your own piss, yeah. | ||
| I talked to a dude who did it. | ||
| He said, you know, everybody was like, you've got to drink your urine. | ||
| He's like, I'm not drinking my fucking piss. | ||
| I'm already high. | ||
| He goes, I'm thinking I'm already tripping balls. | ||
| And he said, so they talked me into drinking my piss. | ||
| I drank it and just... | ||
| He goes, I can't... | ||
| It was like I was pulled back... | ||
| In like a slingshot and let go to the center of the universe. | ||
| I think just like stacking psilocybin plus mescaline plus LSD is probably a more direct route to that instead of light drinking your own urine doing the whole thing. | ||
| Well, it's supposed to be just an accelerated version of the mushroom trip. | ||
| It's not like a confusing blend of The idea is just when you drink your own urine, apparently the real experience kicks in. | ||
| It's like that takes it to the next level. | ||
| It's so trippy that it takes it to the next level. | ||
| I think I would try meth first. | ||
| I'll just blow that mushroom trip out of the door. | ||
| The dude who did it, I swear to God. | ||
| There's some people that come back from some real or imagined experience like that, so humbled that they really are a different person. | ||
| That's how this guy was. | ||
| I was like, "What happened to you? | ||
| What's going on with you?" The dude seemed almost pious. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| It was like he was noticeably softer in tone, noticeably more humble. | ||
| It was weird. | ||
| I go, "What happened?" And then he tells me this whole story. | ||
| I'm like, holy shit, how long ago was that? | ||
| A year later, he was back to himself. | ||
| When you have the full reality peel, like when you have that complete reality peel, it should change you a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, it should knock your fucking socks off. | ||
| It should let you know, like, whoa, you might be wrong, son. | ||
| This might not be... | ||
| Normal at all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This world might be full of crazy magical things that can happen at any moment in time. | ||
| That's how I feel about food poisoning sometimes also. | ||
| I learn a lot from food poisoning. | ||
| Yeah, well, you know, there's... | ||
| Don't eat at that taco wagon ever again. | ||
| You say that, but that's... | ||
| Sunday sushi? | ||
| That is something that cultures that didn't have psychedelics, they had rituals and rites of passages through different substances that would be poison. | ||
| They'd basically be like, I think, the... | ||
| The name for these substances... | ||
| They're essentially toxins that don't kill you. | ||
| But you go through this horrible... | ||
| That's like ammonite and mushrooms. | ||
| Ordeal poisoning. | ||
| That's what it's called. | ||
| They're called ordeal poisons. | ||
| And you go through this horrible, horrible, horrible experience. | ||
| And when it's over, when it passes, you're so happy to be alive that you become nicer to people. | ||
| You learn something from it. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And so instead of having that come through the amazing and enlightening experience of the psilocybin experience or the mushroom trip, instead of that, you just almost die. | ||
| Just almost. | ||
| The whole fucking thing falls apart on you. | ||
| Don't tell my wife about this. | ||
| She could... | ||
| Possibly try to improve me by that route. | ||
| Recommend you go that route? | ||
| What would she improve if she could improve? | ||
| You seem like a great guy. | ||
| Maybe I would cook more. | ||
| At the home, are you super strict with the paleo? | ||
| Everybody has to follow that? | ||
| I actually do all the cooking. | ||
| I do all the cooking. | ||
| Folks pretty much eat what I throw out there. | ||
| You'd make a good gay wife. | ||
| I would. | ||
| I would. | ||
| I can't deny it. | ||
| So you're always organic, always grass-fed? | ||
| No. | ||
| We do the grass-fed gig because we have a friend that owns a dairy, and so we can get grass-fed meat super easy. | ||
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So you're getting it right from the guy who's killing it? | |
| Oh, that's amazing. | ||
| What a hookup that is. | ||
| And we get all the giblets and everything with it and stuff like that. | ||
| But people don't respect all those giblets. | ||
| People don't respect chicken hearts and turkey hearts. | ||
| They're delicious, man. | ||
| And nutritious. | ||
| Chicken hearts are fucking delicious, man. | ||
| That's what I love about in Brazil. | ||
| When you go to Fogo de Chão in Brazil, the Chuhasqueria, they bring out skewers of chicken hearts. | ||
| And everybody was like, give them here, bitch. | ||
| Give them here. | ||
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Wow. | |
| You fucking pussies. | ||
| Yeah, it's almost the best stuff. | ||
| They're delicious. | ||
| It's got a weird taste to it. | ||
| It's like chewy, but not too chewy. | ||
| It's tender, super nutritious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Creepy. | ||
| Creepy. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Little chicken heart. | ||
| There's a place, you know that place at LAX? Somebody told me the restaurant that looks like this weird futuristic tower. | ||
| The UFO type of thing? | ||
| Somebody told me that they serve crazy food. | ||
| They're like ants and bugs and like creepy shit now. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, it's just like a fear factor thing. | ||
| Oh, so like an international oddity sort of a restaurant? | ||
| I've never heard of that. | ||
| Yeah, somebody just told me that. | ||
| I don't know if it's true. | ||
| Why don't you Google that shit and find out if it's true before you spread it. | ||
| Maybe they just have a bad health department scenario going on. | ||
| They tried it. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| We meant to have that roach. | ||
| That's a part of our festivities here where we have a... | ||
| There's a lot of countries where they do eat bugs because they have to, right? | ||
| It's a high source of protein. | ||
| Yeah, it's really nutritious, but I just had a guy that sent me a cricket protein bar from Thailand. | ||
| Yo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cricket protein. | ||
| Yeah, so they grow these crickets. | ||
| And you ate this? | ||
| It wasn't bad. | ||
| It wasn't bad. | ||
| You're a bold man. | ||
| I would not think that anybody working at a fucking cricket protein bar in Thailand would be clean and tidy and shit into the batch every now and again. | ||
| They could have, but there was no, like, hep A, apparently. | ||
| Like, I didn't get doubled over from anything. | ||
| So nothing went wrong? | ||
| No. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| Crickets, why not? | ||
| You know, it's funny. | ||
| We're so weird. | ||
| We eat lobsters, you know, and lobsters have a lot of the same... | ||
| Oh, dude, they're just a water... | ||
| Cricket. | ||
| Yeah, it's a water roach. | ||
| Big one, yeah. | ||
| It's a giant roach. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It actually, if you eat roaches, if you're allergic to shellfish and you eat roaches, you'll get fucked up. | ||
| We learned that on Fear Factor the hard way. | ||
| A dude had a shellfish allergy and he had to eat roaches. | ||
| Like EpiPen. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He had to get jacked with, what is it, adrenaline they shoot you with? | ||
| Yeah, epinephrine or adrenaline, yeah. | ||
| Here's this thing called Typhoon. | ||
| It's called Typhoon, I guess. | ||
| Taiwanese crickets, amphibians. | ||
| Scorpions, larvae. | ||
| But they also have empanadas. | ||
| Frog legs. | ||
| Filipino empanadas. | ||
| Just for some variety, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like they're just trying to go super international. | ||
| New Zealand. | ||
| They got New Zealand food. | ||
| Filipino food. | ||
| It looks yummy, man. | ||
| It makes me hungry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you have a hard time with your diet going to restaurants? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| I mean, like the Brazilian barbecue is a perfect example. | ||
| They've always got tons of meat, fruit, veggies. | ||
| I mean, it's usually pretty easy. | ||
| Those places are so healthy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We spent two weeks in Florence, Italy, and it wasn't hard to eat this way. | ||
| I mean, there's always a chunk of meat, there's always like some veggies, so it's not that, it's pretty easy. | ||
| You totally avoid pastas, grains? | ||
| Yeah, like I'll have a little bit of corn, like some corn tortillas. | ||
| But yeah, like any wheat-containing item. | ||
| Like if I had some wheat, your bathroom out there would be decommissioned. | ||
| Do you eat like Ezekiel pasta? | ||
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| No. | ||
| The sprouted grains reduce the problematic proteins that cause the inflammation in the gut, but they're not totally gone. | ||
| Someone like you, you might be a little more resistant to it. | ||
| If you had whole wheat pasta, we might see some problems. | ||
| You have the Ezekiel-type pasta, you don't really see the problems. | ||
| Whereas for me, I would still have some problems with it. | ||
| I'm kind of like the canary in the coal mine with it. | ||
| Yeah, I like Ezekiel. | ||
| Ezekiel pasta, if you've never had it, folks. | ||
| It's a sprouted grain. | ||
| They make bread, Ezekiel bread. | ||
| And it's based on how it says to make bread in the Bible, apparently. | ||
| Which is kind of trippy. | ||
| Because it's super healthy. | ||
| Grains and legumes, if you eat them without sprouting, they literally can make you sick. | ||
| Like if you just took them uncooked and ate them, it would make you sick. | ||
| Nobody ever just eats wheat. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's why. | ||
| It literally would make you sick. | ||
| How the fuck did they ever figure out how to eat it? | ||
| How hungry and desperate were people? | ||
| Dude, I don't know. | ||
| How do you figure out to stick it in a bucket of water, let it sprout, and start smelling a little bit fermented, and then start eating it? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| How do you ever eat a coconut? | ||
| How do you ever eat a lobster? | ||
| Well, lobsters, I could see you giving it a shot, man. | ||
| Anything with a face. | ||
| It's kind of like, just don't eat the business end of it, and you're pretty good. | ||
| Whichever in that may be. | ||
| So it depends on which business you're talking about, I guess. | ||
| What do you think about an actual vegan diet like the China study and things along those lines where people have been advocating a completely vegetable-based diet? | ||
| Is that bollocks? | ||
| I think it's an improvement off the standard American diet. | ||
| Typically, people are eating more fruit, more veggies. | ||
| They're more conscious about the stuff that they're eating. | ||
| I just don't see people thriving on that long term. | ||
| And what is the problem? | ||
| They don't get enough protein. | ||
| They don't get enough B vitamins. | ||
| They'll tell you, excuse me, crazy vegan people, I love you, but you get a little crazy. | ||
| But they do have a point in that there are some plants that have a full amino acid spectrum. | ||
| They have all the amino acids. | ||
| It's a full protein. | ||
| You can stay alive. | ||
| I call them third world proteins. | ||
| You'll survive, but you won't thrive. | ||
| What is the difference between them and what you get from meat? | ||
| You just get such a concentrated source of proteins from meat. | ||
| On a hormonal level, you're releasing insulin and glucagon when you eat protein, and that is really beneficial for energy levels, for muscle mass. | ||
| I mean, when you look at most of the vegan athletes, particularly in the kind of bodybuilding and strength scene, they're always using some sort of protein concentrate, like a rice protein concentrate or something. | ||
| They're not just eating beans, rice, quinoa. | ||
| They're not really eating whole foods. | ||
| They're still eating a concentrated protein source. | ||
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| Or they just fail miserably. | ||
| But when they do that, when they do eat that concentrated protein source, is that sufficient? | ||
| It'll work, but it's like to eat the concentrated protein from a cow or from brown rice and hemp protein. | ||
| And for me, it's like I just do the cow because it works better, it tastes better. | ||
| It works better. | ||
| Yeah, it just works better. | ||
| But when you say, I'm sorry to ask because my vegan friends would go crazy if I didn't. | ||
| When you say it works better, have there been studies where they have shown a decrease in physical performance because of following a vegan diet as opposed to an increase in a meat-eating diet? | ||
| I mean, has there ever been any study done? | ||
| There's some studies comparing vegetarian diets to mixed diets, and typically the performance is not as good. | ||
| So, I mean, there is some Because that's the only way they would really tell, right? | ||
| Is to get an athlete, put them on it, see what their performance is, get that same athlete, put them on this other diet. | ||
| And then isn't that sort of biospecific to that one individual? | ||
| Yeah, and you know, like Carl Lewis is kind of carried around as a vegan success. | ||
| He had one year of good performance, and then his performance tanked after that. | ||
| And it was during a time that you would... | ||
| Reasonably assume that he, you know, kind of like Usain Bolt, that he should continue to improve. | ||
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| And so that's where, like, you take somebody eating a standard American diet that's super pro-inflammatory, it's tons of, you know, refined foods and everything, you put them on a vegan diet, I think they're probably gonna look, feel, and perform better. | ||
| Like, there's no doubt about that. | ||
| Down the road, I just don't see people doing as well. | ||
| And, you know, it's not like you need to eat boatloads of meat To round out, you know, like say you take this vegan diet that I would still put like paleo carbs in. | ||
| Instead of beans, rice, quinoa and stuff, I would have yams, sweet potatoes, fruits, veggies, which still have more vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants per calorie. | ||
| So you're still good there. | ||
| And then if you throw in... | ||
| A little bit of eggs, a little bit of fish, a little bit of meat. | ||
| You're getting a ton of nutrition from that. | ||
| You're going to build muscle. | ||
| You're going to recover well. | ||
| And it doesn't need to be the whole part of the diet. | ||
| That's where the individual specifics, dialing this stuff in, could really work. | ||
| And eggs, for folks who don't know, because I didn't even know this until I was in my 30s, which is very sad. | ||
| But eggs, you don't kill anything to get an egg. | ||
| A chicken lays an egg every night. | ||
| It's not like if you have a moral sort of a... | ||
| Quandary. | ||
| Yeah, a quandary about eating animals and killing animals. | ||
| That's okay, but chicken eggs. | ||
| You don't have to fertilize those eggs. | ||
| They pop out every day. | ||
| Everybody's fine. | ||
| Eat the egg. | ||
| No one dies. | ||
| You know, on the moral side, I will probably have the vegans come and kill me. | ||
| If anybody ever comes and kills me, it's either going to be militant vegan or a religious rite fanatic. | ||
| And those people will track me down in my house and kill me and probably decorate their house with my intestines or something. | ||
| She just gave them a pretty picture. | ||
| Dudes are taking their pants off right now. | ||
| Yes! | ||
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| Oh, make it so... | ||
| But there was this professor that did an economic analysis of meat-eating versus not meat-eating and this whole kind of moralistic... | ||
| Stance, and they call it the least harm principle. | ||
| Like, what could you do with regards to the food supply that's going to kill the fewest animals? | ||
| And the vegans kind of paint this picture that if I eat beans and rice and quinoa and stuff, that it's somehow a bloodless affair. | ||
| But tons of animals are killed in the process of farming. | ||
| You mean like small animals that get run over by tractors? | ||
| Yeah, snakes and birds. | ||
| And just the fact that the way that we do mega farming, you destroy whole ecosystems to do that. | ||
| Whereas there's this guy, Joel Salatin, who has the polyface farms, and they do biodynamic farming where you've got pigs and chickens and it's outside and they use solar power. | ||
| That farm produces more food, more nutrition per acre than any other farm on the planet. | ||
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Where? | |
| Where is this? | ||
| Where do they do this? | ||
| New Hampshire, I think. | ||
| Polyface Farms. | ||
| Joel Salatin. | ||
| Cool dude. | ||
| Cool dude. | ||
| And how does he have it set up? | ||
| He has it set up? | ||
| So the cattle will go through and graze on grass, which is what they're designed to eat. | ||
| They're not designed to eat grains. | ||
| And you don't have to put any oil into producing grass. | ||
| Like, you need to produce grains, you know? | ||
| So there's that whole thing. | ||
| Then after the cattle go through, and they put up solar-powered electric fences to move these critters around. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Oil to produce grains? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Like, all of the farm machinery and all the infrastructure to produce. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| I mean, it's hugely intensive versus grass just grows. | ||
| Just letting grass grow. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Or even, say, like, fruit and nut trees. | ||
| Like, they're relatively... | ||
| When did they start feeding them grains? | ||
| Early 1970s, there were some fluctuations in food prices, and there was a desire on the part of the U.S. government. | ||
| I think it was right at the end of Nixon's scene. | ||
| They started dumping a bunch of subsidy money into intensifying farm production of basically like corn and soybeans, stuff like that. | ||
| And they wanted to create an export commodity out of that. | ||
| And when we started producing all of this grain, like high carbohydrate stuff, we needed to do something with it, which is where we then started recommending it via things like the food pyramid, that you need to eat 12 servings of whole grains a day and stuff like that. | ||
| A government sponsored move, which I'm just totally a nutcase libertarian, like I just can't fucking stand the government coming in and subsidizing any industry because you end up destroying the market forces that would normally control it. | ||
| So now we have a Twinkie that costs less than an apple, but it really doesn't cost less because we're paying for the subsidized production of that food via taxes and via going and acquiring oil and all these other indirect methods. | ||
| So if you had kind of decentralized farming and you have something that looks like the polyface farms where they grow cattle and horses and pigs and it's all kind of a self-contained nutrient cycle. | ||
| So the cattle go through and then the chickens go through and move the cow poop around. | ||
| Dude, I've always wanted to live like that. | ||
| I've always thought that would be such a cool fucking thing to be able to buy a farm somewhere and actually have it set up like that where you get all your food from the ground that you actually live on. | ||
| That would be fucking amazing. | ||
| Move to Ohio. | ||
| Sounds like a pain in the dick, though. | ||
| That's your life. | ||
| It might be labor-intensive, yeah. | ||
| That's your life. | ||
| That's your life. | ||
| Forget about jujitsu class. | ||
| Forget about playing pool. | ||
| You've got to milk some cows. | ||
| Get your kids involved. | ||
| The kids are going to have to start working. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| I don't want my kids to work on a farm. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Throwing hay and shit. | ||
| Then a tornado comes. | ||
| Not always, Brian. | ||
| Farms aren't always where tornadoes are. | ||
| You could have a farm in California, but I guess they do have tornadoes in California. | ||
| They spotted a little one recently. | ||
| Up around Chico, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, shit could go down. | ||
| Anywhere. | ||
| This whole thing is a big, fat, crazy mess. | ||
| It could all fall apart. | ||
| The idea of this paleo diet is, to me, the most... | ||
| Instantly, when I heard about it, I was like, oh yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| I followed, I tried the Atkins for a little while, and I swear to God, it was one of the worst I've ever felt. | ||
| I don't know, I think eating too much fat... | ||
| Atkins is horrible, man. | ||
| My ex-girlfriend used to do that, and it really kind of pissed me off, because... | ||
| It was not healthy at all. | ||
| Just watching her sit there only eating cheese every day and bacon fat. | ||
| I'm just like, come on. | ||
| I'm more of a Weight Watchers person. | ||
| But to me, it's like you just have a little bit of everything. | ||
| But a good part of the Atkins diet to me was that you could eat meat and you could eat as much vegetables as you wanted to. | ||
| That really is... | ||
| And if you have somebody who's type 2 diabetic, they would benefit a lot from something that looks like an Atkins diet. | ||
| Type 2 diabetes is 100%. | ||
| It's reversible in that you can take somebody who's not managing their blood glucose and they're on a host of drugs and they're very likely to die from heart attack, stroke, cancer, and if you feed them a ketogenic, like a moderate protein, high fat diet, you can shift their body's metabolism to run on ketones and they're going to live amazingly well and they're not going to bankrupt society because we're spending a bunch of money trying to manage this stuff. | ||
| But for an athlete, for somebody who's not metabolically broken, I just like to steer people more towards like the, you know, fruits, veggies, yams, sweet potatoes, stuff like that for the carbs. | ||
| When you carb load though, do you get the same carb load from fruits and veggies that you would if you were eating a giant plate of pasta? | ||
| That's where you would use like a yam or a sweet potato or something like that and it's very, you know, it's like a one for one kind of... | ||
| Same thing, huh? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Yams are fucking delicious, too. | ||
| But meanwhile, if I were to go for a yam or a plate of spaghetti, I'm going to take that spaghetti because it's yummier and I feel like I'm getting away with something when I eat it. | ||
| You know, the wheat has some opiate-like chemicals in it that stimulate the addiction centers in the brain. | ||
| I bet it does. | ||
| Lasagna? | ||
| That's like heroin. | ||
| It's very similar, man. | ||
| Mac and cheese. | ||
| Good lasagna when you're eating, you're like, oh, shit. | ||
| It's like some real low-level heroin. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| I've become addicted to trying to find the best mac and cheese. | ||
| Every time I go to a restaurant, I'm like, Damn it, they have one here. | ||
| I have to get it. | ||
| Cracker Barrel's pretty good. | ||
| This motherfucker has the worst diet of all time. | ||
| Well, I don't have a bad diet. | ||
| I just eat once a day. | ||
| It's all cigarettes and macaroni and cheese. | ||
| How could that go wrong? | ||
| Eating once a day. | ||
| Yeah, I just eat once a day. | ||
| At Starbucks. | ||
| Sleeps at least two hours in his car. | ||
| How could any of that go wrong? | ||
| It's not going to go right. | ||
| Have you ever thought about working with big name MMA guys and getting together with some high level fighters and organizing their Food in their camps. | ||
| I would love to. | ||
| I've done some consulting for Frank and for Forrest and stuff like that. | ||
| Frank went from a vegan diet, I should explain, to your diet and had much better results, he said. | ||
| He just really felt listless when he was on a vegan diet. | ||
| I think he was joking around about it. | ||
| He was probably doing it wrong. | ||
| Because he was eating so much carbs that his blood sugar just jacked through the roof. | ||
| And he was having insulin issues. | ||
| Just from eating pasta all the time. | ||
| And you see that a lot with folks. | ||
| And so I think if you have somebody eating vegan and they're doing more like yams, sweet potatoes, fruits for their carbs, then they're probably going to do better. | ||
| But I just don't see people thrive on it. | ||
| Matt Danzig fights. | ||
| He's a vegan. | ||
| And he does well. | ||
| He does very well. | ||
| He's a very skilled guy. | ||
| And he's been a vegan forever. | ||
| He does rice protein. | ||
| He did, at least, the last time I discussed it with him. | ||
| But yeah, he's a very strict vegan. | ||
| There's also a piece to the elite athlete scene that they're sometimes not the best people to look to for what everybody should be doing. | ||
| There are guys out there that can eat anything and still succeed. | ||
| It's just something to tinker with. | ||
| Get in and try vegan for a month, see how you do. | ||
| Try paleo for a month, see how you do, and see which one works for you. | ||
| Let me tell you about my retarded theory. | ||
| I think that things that are hard to catch are better for you. | ||
| That's why I think deer is so good for you and elk. | ||
| There's a reason why they're running so fast to try to get the fuck away. | ||
| It's because nature is set it up so they're hard to catch. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Fish. | |
| Nature is set it up so they're really hard to catch. | ||
| Whereas like cows, you could walk right up to a cow and shoot it in the fucking head and the other cows in here... | ||
| The other cows near it, we're like, what happened? | ||
| They just keep eating their grass. | ||
| Charlie's gone. | ||
| Yeah, they're stupid. | ||
| But even though they're delicious, it's not as good for you as, say, elk is. | ||
| Like, elk is hard to get. | ||
| It's hard to get an elk. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, they're out there running around. | ||
| That's a real motherfucker out there living in the wild. | ||
| And you gotta go jack him. | ||
| Well, if you go fully caveman, if you've got like a hand-thrown spear, then you might end up on the business end of yelling some horns. | ||
| Well, do you know that people are actually doing that now? | ||
| That is the latest wave in hunting is spear hunting. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People are trying to spear deers and shit. | ||
| Good fucking luck. | ||
| You're lucky that's recreational, motherfucker. | ||
| You're going to starve to death. | ||
| There's some YouTube video of me killing a 650-pound elk with a hand-thrown spear. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| Where is this video? | ||
| Pull that shit out. | ||
| There was a Discovery Channel show called iCaveman. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| We got trained as cavemen and did this shit for like 10 days. | ||
| Where is this show? | ||
| Discovery Channel curiosity series. | ||
| Is it on still? | ||
| It's still on, yeah. | ||
| It circulates around. | ||
| Is it a new show? | ||
| It was last year. | ||
| Oh, so it was like a one-off? | ||
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| One episode? | ||
| That should be a goddamn series, Discovery Channel. | ||
| That would be fucking awesome. | ||
| It was. | ||
| They had another one. | ||
| Morgan Spurlock hosted the one that we were on, then Robin Williams did a show on drug use, and so they would get people whacked on just a variety of drugs and do pet scans on their brain to see what was firing and everything. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Funny enough, the dude, Robert, who was on the show with me for iCaveman, he ended up getting picked for the drug show. | ||
| He has a sordid past, so it was pretty cool. | ||
| I would think that a show where people would be forced to actually live like a caveman would be fascinating. | ||
| To make your own spears and try to make your own bows and arrows. | ||
| You got nothing, man. | ||
| You're just naked. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When you want to tap out, you let us know, and you can tap out, and you can come back to civilization. | ||
| They gave us clothes, but we had to learn how to make our own fire, make our own tools, and there was this guy, Billy, who was a primitive skills expert, and he could take a big rock, start whacking it, and then have a stone knife in five minutes. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| I wonder if we could have a show like that where there's a big prize. | ||
| And it's like, they have to see who can live the longest as a caveman. | ||
| And if you could do it, you'd get something crazy, like five million bucks. | ||
| I've had this idea of the weight loss show, but it... | ||
| So you've got people that are living this kind of caveman-esque lifestyle. | ||
| They work out and they eat paleo and, you know, they get put through challenges and stuff. | ||
| But instead of, like, the punishment would actually be giving them westernized refined food, not letting them sleep, making them stay up late and play video games. | ||
| So basically the punishment would be living the westernized lifestyle. | ||
| Because it ultimately say like you have like a million dollar prize or something and it's all based on like body composition change or weight loss or something but if you give them the only food to eat is shitty food and you keep them awake and you don't let them exercise and they're not going to lose body weight. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| So the punishment is actually living modern life and the only way that you could win like the people who do it best the way that they win is by actually avoiding the modern I think the idea of people who work out hard and then they get to a certain... | ||
| Is that it? | ||
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That's it. | |
| Did they show you killing it? | ||
| Yeah, if you back up a little bit, you can see me hucking the... | ||
| It's called an atloddle. | ||
| A little bit more... | ||
| At least I think so. | ||
| Depends on... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I guess more. | ||
| Bring it all to the beginning. | ||
| This is like a teaser, I think. | ||
| Maybe it's not in that one. | ||
| Oh, if you do. | ||
| There's this one where somebody recorded the TV. Yeah. | ||
| This will actually show the throw. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| So that's me with a helmet cam in the atlas. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So this is on day eight. | ||
| We've had no food at all for eight days. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I've lost 18 pounds. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So you already did this. | ||
| You already lived like a caveman. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Yeah, it was something else. | ||
| So this is the guy that's a primitive skills expert. | ||
| Super cool dude, but unfortunately he missed. | ||
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Here's an opportunity to bring home some meat, and I blew it. | |
| Rob is our last chance. | ||
| The rest of us are just too far away, and these elk can spook at any moment. | ||
| And I was getting ready to throw my at-level dart, and I was waiting for this elk to turn so that I had the flank and the neck all open. | ||
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Be ready. | |
| Time just was stopped. | ||
| It felt like the beginning of the world and the end of the world and everything all woven together. | ||
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You got one. | |
| You got one. | ||
| That one's hit. | ||
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That one's hit. | |
| We got one. | ||
| I got it in the neck. | ||
| And I could just see it rifle in, hit the elk in the neck. | ||
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the tail end of the dart whipped around and the elk - Oh shit, son. | |
| A kill shot. | ||
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Wow. | |
| What an incredible shot. | ||
| So I'm a total coward, and I knew what we were going to be getting into doing this gig. | ||
| And so I made my own at level at home like a month early. | ||
| Explain that. | ||
| What is it called? | ||
| It's a spear throwing device? | ||
| Yeah, it's got a base. | ||
| If you've ever seen Hi-Li, where you throw the ball. | ||
| So you've got this base that gives you some leverage. | ||
| And then you've got a long, flexible dart that looks like a really flexible arrow. | ||
| But it's six feet long. | ||
| It's got a stone tip on the front. | ||
| And the things... | ||
| What's the show where they... | ||
| The Warrior vs. | ||
| Warrior or whatever? | ||
| Like Ultimate... | ||
| Ultimate... | ||
| That's the one that... | ||
| No, that's not Ultimate Warrior, is it? | ||
| No, it's the one that Jason was on. | ||
| That's a wrestler. | ||
| Wasn't it the one that... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That was the Human Weapon. | ||
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Human Weapon. | |
| But they checked out an atloddle on that show, and it has as much power as a 273 round because of the weight and the velocity you're able to get on it. | ||
| The leverage from slinging that thing. | ||
| How accurate is it? | ||
| Not very accurate. | ||
| So you just threw it into the crowd, or did you actually aim for that thing's neck? | ||
| I aimed for that one. | ||
| I aimed for its shoulder, and then it went a little high, and actually it was a better shot than what I was aiming for. | ||
| You must have been stoked. | ||
| It was pretty amazing because I hadn't eaten anything in eight days. | ||
| How the fuck did you survive after not eating anything for eight days? | ||
| Dude, I lost 18 pounds, one thing, so you run off your body fat. | ||
| It's amazing that you had the strength to throw that thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, we had three more days to go to wrap up the experiment. | ||
| I did not want to quit. | ||
| But it was miserable. | ||
| It was cold. | ||
| That was outside of Steamboat Springs in Colorado, and the nighttime temperature was like 28 degrees. | ||
| And you were sleeping outside? | ||
| And we were sleeping outside on the ground. | ||
| But we had a hut that we had built and stuff like that. | ||
| But it was fucking cold. | ||
| You weren't starting any fires? | ||
| Yeah, we made a fire. | ||
| We had to make a fire with a hand drill and all that. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| So how come you guys couldn't find anything to eat for eight days? | ||
| Well, they stuck us up in the mountains because it was beautiful, and there was no food. | ||
| The anthropologists on the show were like, yeah, all the Native Americans in this area would be 5,000 feet further down the mountain. | ||
| We were at almost 9,000 feet up the mountain. | ||
| Oh, there's not much up there. | ||
| There's nothing there, and it was shot in June. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In June at 9,000 feet, it gets 28 degrees at night? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Motherfucker. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It snowed on us the first night that we were there. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| In June? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| Wow. | ||
| Dude, you killed a fucking elk with a spear. | ||
| Odwaddle or whatever the hell it is. | ||
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Atwaddle. | |
| Atwaddle. | ||
| That's amazing, man. | ||
| It was pretty cool. | ||
| That is pretty cool. | ||
| Elk are incredible animals, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| When I went to Evergreen, there's this crazy photo of the town of Evergreen. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| You ever been there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Beautiful town up in the mountains above Denver. | ||
| And there's this photo on the town's website where it's like... | ||
| I don't know, a hundred elk walking right down the middle of their mainstream, completely blocking traffic. | ||
| It's like, holy shit! | ||
| What a cool little piece of nature that these delicious animals wander through your whole town by the hundreds and then make their way through the forest. | ||
| There's something fucking magical about that, man. | ||
| I mean, it sucks a big fat dick when it snows up there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Your car's sliding around on mountain roads and all that. | ||
| That's all terrible. | ||
| But man, just the majestic beauty of being in front of a herd of elk and watch them walk across the street. | ||
| It's like, wow. | ||
| Yeah, those animals were amazing. | ||
| They were totally amazing to behold. | ||
| When we were out there, they would spook and then run away from us. | ||
| But some of the bulls would turn around and it was kind of like... | ||
| That guy is smaller than I am. | ||
| Yeah, I ain't afraid of you, bitch. | ||
| Yeah, seriously. | ||
| And apparently we're not used to hunters, otherwise they would have run. | ||
| Well, you know, where that spot was, we were coming up a hill, and the sun was coming up behind us, and the wind was blowing over the elk. | ||
| So they couldn't see us yet, really. | ||
| Like, the sun literally was in their eyes. | ||
| So that was part of the reason why we succeeded that day. | ||
| And then also because it was day eight, and we had failed all the other days. | ||
| We only had two camera crew, and they were set up like 400 yards away, kind of triangulated in on where we were to get distant shots. | ||
| So the only local camera we had was on my head. | ||
| And that's part of the reason why we succeeded too. | ||
| Usually we had like six camera guys stomping through the underbrush. | ||
| Cockblocking the fucking... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| That's not going to work. | ||
| No. | ||
| So how many different times did you actually throw that thing at an elk? | ||
| I only got two shots off. | ||
| So the first one went high, which they didn't show in that, and then my second one hit it. | ||
| Same day? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there was no time during the other eight days where you got a shot? | ||
| Not me. | ||
| Not me. | ||
| Other guys did. | ||
| Other people went out and had shots, but I never got in a position where I had a shot. | ||
| Wow, so no one found any food for the eight days, or some folks had found something? | ||
| I mean, like dandelions. | ||
| We had like four trout one day, divided up among ten people. | ||
| So, I mean, not a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There was a mouse. | ||
| You ate a mouse? | ||
| I ate a mouse. | ||
| Oh, what the fuck, man? | ||
| I cooked it really well. | ||
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Oh, Jesus. | |
| Just in case there was like dengue fever in it or something. | ||
| Jesus, a fucking mouse? | ||
| What does a mouse taste like? | ||
| Well, yeah, it didn't taste good. | ||
| I don't know an analogous taste. | ||
| It just wasn't good. | ||
| I mean, it was burnt, and you're eating the intestines, and you're crunching through the skull. | ||
| You ate the intestines and everything? | ||
| It's too small, the gut. | ||
| So you just cook it really well, and you just start on the front end and finish with the tail end. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| So you just chewed it down, bones and all? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Mice are pretty fast. | ||
| I guess that kills that theory. | ||
| Oh my god, have you, what is that crazy dish that, it's a famous dish where they take little birds and they drown them in brandy? | ||
| What? | ||
| Ortolan, what is it called? | ||
| I've never heard of this. | ||
| I have the, yeah, of course, my crazy friend Duncan turned me on to this. | ||
| He claims that I turned him on to it, but I think he's crazy. | ||
| But the idea is that they would take these birds, and it was some weird, ridiculous delicacy, where they would eat it. | ||
| Yeah, Ortolan, this is what it is. | ||
| A rite of passage for French gourmets has been eating of the ordelan. | ||
| These tiny birds captured alive, force-fed, and then drowned in Armagnac. | ||
| I guess it's a type of cognac or something like that. | ||
| Were roasted whole and eaten that way, bones and all, while the diner draped his head with a linen napkin to preserve the precious aromas and, some believe, to hide from God. | ||
| That's pretty barbaric. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, what the fuck? | ||
| That's a weird way to eat an animal. | ||
| I mean, how'd they figure out how to make it delicious? | ||
| Overfeed it and then drown it in bourbon. | ||
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In booze. | |
| In booze. | ||
| What a weird animal, man. | ||
| I'll pass on that. | ||
| It sounds like a mafia hit. | ||
| The idea that you wear a hood over your head while you eat it to get the aromas. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, whoa, that's just fucking weird. | ||
| Is that the French? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Yeah, naturally. | ||
| Creepy weirdos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crazy ideas about drowning birds. | ||
| Don't they make foie gras also? | ||
| Which is for feeding. | ||
| Delicious. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But that shit's really good. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, that shit's legit. | ||
| It's illegal now in California. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can bring your own foie gras to the restaurant and they'll cook it for you. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| They can't buy it. | ||
| That's so silly. | ||
| Which is another one of these market deals. | ||
| So you took something that was regulated. | ||
| People kept track of it. | ||
| There were some standards and some hygiene. | ||
| And so now you've driven it into a black market deal. | ||
| Black market. | ||
| And by the way, it's not like they're running out of goose. | ||
| We're trying to protect the goose. | ||
| No, you can kill the fucking shit out of goose. | ||
| Geese. | ||
| You can kill them all day long. | ||
| Nobody cares. | ||
| You just can't inflame their livers before you kill them. | ||
| You have to be nice to them. | ||
| Meanwhile, if you ever see one of those feeding tubes where they force feed them, they hang out near that feeding tube. | ||
| They want to get force fed. | ||
| They don't have gag instincts. | ||
| They just know when that thing goes in their mouth, then they're full. | ||
| We're so weird with what we allow, what we don't. | ||
| You still allow veal. | ||
| Like, veal seems to me way crueler than a couple of seconds getting force-fed with some grain. | ||
| You know, veal is a tricky thing. | ||
| Or just Jersey Shore. | ||
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So, yeah. | |
| I mean, that seems inhumane, too. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| Do you eat veal? | ||
| If it's there, I do. | ||
| But, I mean, it's not something. | ||
| Do you ever think about how creepy it is? | ||
| It's pretty creepy. | ||
| It's pretty creepy. | ||
| I mean, it's like Kobe beef, you know. | ||
| It's all rubbed and massaged and, you know, milk-fed and everything. | ||
| Kobe beef is like, don't they feed it alcohol? | ||
| Look at this, Joe. | ||
| Pita. | ||
| Is that pita? | ||
| They're so crazy what they're connecting human beings to animals. | ||
| Force feeding a person. | ||
| It's always quasi-sexual. | ||
| She's got her lipstick running. | ||
| They're so silly. | ||
| They're all extremists. | ||
| They're silly. | ||
| Yep, and one of them will probably kill me someday. | ||
| Because you killed that elk with a spear? | ||
| Even more so now, yeah. | ||
| Did you get hate mail after you did that? | ||
| Not hate mail, but there was some hate tweeting. | ||
| People were upset at you? | ||
| Yeah, and there was a woman who was... | ||
| Why are people upset? | ||
| Meanwhile, they're probably meat eaters. | ||
| You know, the funny thing is there was a woman who's a cartoonist who is a meat eater, but thought that it was appalling that I hunted an animal. | ||
| And I was kind of like, okay. | ||
| That's so dumb! | ||
| It's not like I was sitting a quarter mile away with a sniper scope. | ||
| I was out on my feet. | ||
| This animal could have stomped me into a bloody mess if it wanted to. | ||
| So it's about as equal an exchange as you're going to get. | ||
| Doubt some real shit. | ||
| You went to war with an animal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| With some shit you made. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I think you win. | ||
| I think that lady can shut her fucking hole. | ||
| Shut your hole, lady. | ||
| See you next Tuesday. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| Shut your meat hole. | ||
| But it's so dumb if you eat meat. | ||
| If you actually eat meat, would you prefer your pig to be stuffed into some fucking crazy container and live its life in its own shit until it finally gets slaughtered? | ||
| You know, is that somehow or another better if you're not involved? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| We're the strangest animal with this anti-hunting but pro-meat thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like you're not going to stop people from eating meat. | ||
| You could go crazy pita all you want. | ||
| You go crazy vegan all you want. | ||
| For a lot of people that's blah, blah, blah, in and out is delicious. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Barbecue is too fucking good. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Tastes too goddamn good. | ||
| A real good ribeye, medium rare, over mesquite coals. | ||
| Shut your fucking mouth with your quinoa. | ||
| It's not as good. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| It's just not. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| And that's why the vegans are always trying to make fake meat. | ||
| Yeah, they're silly. | ||
| The fake chicken and shit like that. | ||
| The tofurkey. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The thing about it is, like, yeah, it seems like we should evolve past that. | ||
| It seems like we shouldn't be about cruelty, and it seems like we shouldn't be... | ||
| But what is the least cruel thing? | ||
| The least cruel thing is to have an animal live its whole life completely wild and free, and you take it out with a bullet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then no one doesn't know what the fuck is going on. | ||
| It just hears a branch snap... | ||
| Boom! | ||
| One through the heart and that's a wrap, son. | ||
| I mean, that's a quick death. | ||
| That is a lot better than a cow living on a farm. | ||
| Yet people have a problem with people hunting and they don't have a problem eating at Burger King. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is strange. | ||
| People are strange. | ||
| We get really weird once we got agriculture and we got the ability to have a surplus. | ||
| We got the ability to store things. | ||
| I think when you were still running farms, you were still tied into food because you had to go out and kill your food. | ||
| There was a little more tie to it. | ||
| When you walk into a grocery store and kids really don't understand that plants grow in the dirt. | ||
| You know, that corn or, you know, an apple or whatever grew from a plant that's in the dirt. | ||
| They don't even realize that. | ||
| And then when you go to the meat deal and you understand what's involved with killing and processing an animal, like it's pretty gruesome shit. | ||
| You know, it's no joke. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's no joke. | ||
| Do we have to be concerned with a lack of minerals in the topsoil? | ||
| I've read people have discussed whether or not it's healthy to be trying to replenish them with chemicals and whether or not there's supposed to be a natural cycle of leaving certain areas alone for a while and then planting them in the future. | ||
| Could I answer that after taking a leak? | ||
| Yeah, I saw you turning. | ||
| I'll be right back. | ||
| Go through that door and the last door on the left. | ||
| Notice, ladies and gentlemen, how strong my bladder is. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good for you, to hold it. | ||
| What, to have a strong bladder? | ||
| To hold it. | ||
| I used to hold it all the time. | ||
| Now I try to go. | ||
| The second I feel like, oh, I might have to pee, I try to go. | ||
| Because I used to hold it for long periods of time. | ||
| But my bladder, it doesn't hurt me. | ||
| No, but it just... | ||
| It doesn't bother me. | ||
| If you do that over time, you're going to have a hard time holding your pee in when you get older. | ||
| What? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Dude, when I have a hard time holding my pee in... | ||
| I'm not down with that. | ||
| But I don't agree with that. | ||
| I think that's silly. | ||
| No. | ||
| You've never heard that before? | ||
| No. | ||
| If it bothered me a lot, I would go pee. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's not really... | ||
| I can just hold it longer. | ||
| I drink a lot of water, too. | ||
| Maybe it's something I'm used to it. | ||
| Maybe I have a more stretched out bladder. | ||
| No, I mean, I totally just could never pee all day. | ||
| I could pee once a day if I wanted to, I think. | ||
| Only once a day? | ||
| I used to hold my pee a lot because of jobs that I worked at. | ||
| Louis C.K. had a funny bit. | ||
| You ever hold your pee because you're just so bored? | ||
| He wants to concentrate on something. | ||
| I forget the actual joke, but it's so true. | ||
| So bored, you're just holding in your pee. | ||
| Man, tomorrow's podcast with Maynard is going to be ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder if he's going to bring some of his wine. | ||
| I want to try it. | ||
| I find that amazing. | ||
| I think that is just one of the most original things that a rock star has ever done. | ||
| Call him a rock star, musician, artist, just decides to become a winemaker. | ||
| I think that's amazing. | ||
| I love the idea behind it. | ||
| Growing it on his own farm, it's a small operation. | ||
| They grow the grapes, the whole thing, the whole process. | ||
| I think that's amazing, man. | ||
| I'm really, really interested with, I don't know if I talked about this, about Francis Ford Coppola's daughter, Sophie? | ||
| Sophia Coppola? | ||
| Sophia Coppa. | ||
| Her wine company is... | ||
| Pretty cool what she's doing with it. | ||
| She's doing something that I think is pretty unique and I'm actually... | ||
| I'm on board 100%. | ||
| She's sawing little portable wine in cans, like pop cans. | ||
| And they're like the small Cokes. | ||
| If you're by the small Coke cans, they're like in that. | ||
| Or she has this other one where it's like this little wine glass that just has a peel-off thing and it has like a resealable... | ||
| Lived for it, and it's just like completely like the opposite of what you're supposed to drink wine. | ||
| Yeah, the high-end like wine. | ||
| It's like like a new version of portable box wine. | ||
| Doesn't her father Francis Ford Coppola doesn't he have a vineyards like a very famous vineyard? | ||
| Yeah, that's where she she's doing her own thing. | ||
| I don't know if it's at the same vineyard or not, but that's kind of that's kind of smart. | ||
| Yeah She does everything her dad does. | ||
| That's a good move when your dad's Francis Ford motherfucking Coppola. | ||
| Then you can do whatever you want. | ||
| Yeah, why not? | ||
| I want to make some portable wine, bitch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But when you look at the economy and everything, I mean, instead of driving towards the top end, then you make some cheap, you know, box wine style stuff within a different delivery deal. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Yeah, for a lot of people, there's not that much difference between a $30 bottle of wine and a $5 bottle of wine. | ||
| Right, especially after the first bottle. | ||
| Yeah, especially after the first few sips. | ||
| If you're a sommelier and you're hammered, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. | ||
| Let's be honest. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How bad is alcohol for you? | ||
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Uh... | |
| I mean, the poison's all in the dose, so, I mean, I have a couple drinks a day, and, you know, not too bad, and I stick more with, like, NorCal margaritas, just, like, tequila, lime juice. | ||
| You drink a couple drinks every day? | ||
| Yeah, usually. | ||
| You're an animal. | ||
| You don't give a fuck. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Health and nutrition. | ||
| You're drinking two drinks a day? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah, one to two. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's no big deal? | ||
| I don't think that that's all that big of a deal. | ||
| If I was in training camp for something, then I would ditch it. | ||
| Obviously, you know, you need to tighten stuff up, but... | ||
| If you're doing six, eight drinks a night or multiple times a week, obviously that's a problem. | ||
| It's just kind of a dose-response curve. | ||
| If you're a dude, then you can probably get away with a drink or two a day, and it's probably healthful in the long run. | ||
| For a female, a little bit less than that. | ||
| How is it helpful? | ||
| Is it helpful because you're relaxed? | ||
| Because you have the drink? | ||
| Is it helpful because is there anything in the alcohol? | ||
| I think it's that stuff. | ||
| You know, you relax. | ||
| There's usually some socialization that goes on. | ||
| There's some stuff in the alcohol... | ||
| It's interesting, like, just being exposed to a stress, there's this process called hormesis, where, like, when you exercise, you get some damage to the muscles or to the cardiovascular system, and your body needs to adapt to that, and it's actually the process of adapting that's good for you. | ||
| And alcohol causes some damage to the body that then it needs to respond to, and there's some kind of beneficial, you know, elements to that. | ||
| I had a crazy idea when I was younger. | ||
| It's a stupid idea, but it was like, if you smoke cigarettes, maybe it would make your lungs stronger, because they'd have to fight off the cigarette smoke. | ||
| I really did think that. | ||
| You just got to quit when you were about 40. When I was in wrestling, one of the best kids on our wrestling team was a smoker, and I was worried about that. | ||
| That's Sophia's little wine. | ||
| Yeah, see, it's like kind of selling it like a can of beer. | ||
| She's selling it like a handjob. | ||
| All you're seeing is her hand in the water. | ||
| You're thinking, slippery. | ||
| Why are we outside? | ||
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Booze. | |
| What are you doing? | ||
| You're jerking me off. | ||
| Stop, you shouldn't do this. | ||
| This is your dad's house. | ||
| Francis Ford Coppola's house, no less. | ||
| Jesus Christ, people are watching. | ||
| There must be cameras. | ||
| Yeah, so one or two drinks a day, no problem. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| People right now went, yes! | ||
| Because no one ever hears that. | ||
| Everyone hears alcohol is terrible for you. | ||
| Yeah, and it's not. | ||
| They try to demonize a lot of stuff, whether it's red meat or booze or whatever. | ||
| Because I'm the gluten-free deal, and I love beer, but beer is loaded with gluten. | ||
| Yeah, so how do you do that? | ||
| So I don't drink beer. | ||
| You don't drink beer. | ||
| You've got to go margaritas or something. | ||
| Margaritas. | ||
| I've been doing cider. | ||
| After we spent some time in Northern Europe, they do some amazing ciders. | ||
| So I do some of that stuff. | ||
| I wonder if it's... | ||
| I get a real weird heavy feeling from beer that I don't get from other things. | ||
| When I have a couple of glasses of whiskey, I get drunk, but I don't get that like... | ||
| The bloat? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You never drink light beers though. | ||
| You always drink like the Heineken's and Sam Adams. | ||
| Yeah, I mean dark beer is really the only way to go, but it's got the most kind of gnarly stuff in it too. | ||
| Yeah, like Guinness. | ||
| Yeah, God, I love that stuff. | ||
| A lot of bad shit in there though. | ||
| Half and half. | ||
| Not good for you. | ||
| Hey, you guys want some half and halves? | ||
| I'll go get one. | ||
| You want to get one right now? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alright, go get some drinks. | ||
| I'll do it. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| Something with clear booze. | ||
| I'll pass on it. | ||
| Get something with clear booze. | ||
| Is the bar open? | ||
| I don't know what time is it. | ||
| It's only 5.15. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| What the fuck are you doing? | ||
| You're promising shit you can't deliver. | ||
| I'll see if I can get something. | ||
| So what about coffee? | ||
| Dig coffee. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when you look at the epidemiology, probably the more you drink, the better. | ||
| The more you drink coffee, the better? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's like three, four cups a day. | ||
| Now, the problem is that usually people don't drink espresso or straight coffee. | ||
| They're usually dumping a bunch of sugar in it. | ||
| So that's kind of the caveat with it. | ||
| But it decreases diabetes rates. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| You just drank your diabetes away. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Say that again about diabetes? | ||
| It decreases diabetes rates. | ||
| It decreases cardiovascular disease rates. | ||
| It's good stuff. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Now, let's take that. | ||
| Let's say you're a police or firefighter and you're working night shift and you're working out like crazy and you're using caffeine to drive a lifestyle that is totally over the top. | ||
| Then it's not necessarily good. | ||
| It's going to get into some adrenal fatigue. | ||
| Your adrenals are the... | ||
| You know, the hormones release cortisol and it deals with stress and you can completely bomb that whole system out. | ||
| And then you can drop testosterone levels and drop your immune function. | ||
| That happened with a friend of mine. | ||
| He quit coffee for that very reason. | ||
| His adrenals started failing. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So you can overdo it in that regard, but it's kind of like lifestyle plus, bad lifestyle plus too much coffee is bad. | ||
| But if you have a lifestyle that's a little bit more sedate, like when we go on vacation, I can drink coffee all day long and it doesn't faze me. | ||
| When I'm working and I've got deadlines and stuff and I've got that base level of stress, then I can't do much coffee. | ||
| That's interesting because that's when a lot of people would think that you would need it. | ||
| You're stressed out, you need some energy, then you take the coffee. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's when you could overdo it. | ||
| Interesting thing, for more cognitive type stuff, like writing or trying to do creative work, doing nicotine gum, Yeah, I've heard of that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| That's one of the things that Stephen King said he missed about smoking. | ||
| He said the synaptic responses when he was writing would be much improved with cigarettes. | ||
| If that's the right way to say it, synaptic responses, is that what's going on when you're writing? | ||
| Just making connections and stuff. | ||
| So nicotine gum can make you creative. | ||
| And there's good studies showing that nicotine is preventative against Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. | ||
| It's supposed to be good for your heart, too, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| But you've got to remove the delivery system, which is tobacco. | ||
| Well, which is 590 different chemicals jammed into tobacco. | ||
| Right, in addition to all that stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I did a thing once. | ||
| It's me and my friend Adam Ferrara. | ||
| He used to smoke cigarettes. | ||
| I don't know if he still does. | ||
| He's a comedian on that TV show Top Gear in the United States. | ||
| We did a thing together a long time ago. | ||
| This play thing. | ||
| And I had to play this poet who was completely full of himself and smoked all day and smoked like a Frenchman. | ||
| Like smoked backwards. | ||
| And I only smoked like four or five cigarettes while we were rehearsing this day. | ||
| And I had to quit. | ||
| I said, I can't do this part. | ||
| I can't do it, man. | ||
| I feel like I'm going to throw up. | ||
| I can't smoke a cigarette. | ||
| The whole thing was I'm supposed to be smoking the whole time. | ||
| I'm like, how the fuck do you guys do this? | ||
| This is nuts. | ||
| You're poisoning the shit. | ||
| I felt like I was becoming a vampire. | ||
| I felt it taking over me. | ||
| I'm like, no. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You've got to take these back. | ||
| What a madness, you know? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, when you look at tobacco, like, whenever it hits somewhere, it spreads fast, and it sticks pretty hard. | ||
| Well, the real madness is how many people fucking die from it, and yet it's still so prevalent. | ||
| And even amongst young people, in 2012, the internet out there, for whatever reason, there's this weird romantic pull towards self-destruction through use of tobacco. | ||
| It's really fucking strange to me. | ||
| Do you ever read Malcolm Gladwell's books? | ||
| Was his the tipping point? | ||
| I think it was the tipping point, but he talked about the fact that if you try to demonize something and make it not cool, that kids are going to gravitate towards it even more. | ||
| Yeah, well, anything their parents don't want them to do. | ||
| Get the fuck away from me. | ||
| They just want to stop telling me what to do, you cocksucker. | ||
| Give me that cigarette. | ||
| Oh, my dad's an asshole. | ||
| Yeah, that's what it is. | ||
| But that hopefully can be avoided. | ||
| Sorry, the bar was closed so I couldn't get any clear drinks. | ||
| No problem. | ||
| No problem. | ||
| But I have vodka and ice if you want that. | ||
| Yeah, because otherwise it's only us drinking. | ||
| I'm going to drink this Guinness with pride now, knowing it's actually good for me. | ||
| Sort of, kind of, but not the wheat. | ||
| Yeah, if we could figure out some way to make it without wheat or barley. | ||
| It's just shitty for your body. | ||
| What is the best alcohol? | ||
| Is there a better alcohol to drink? | ||
| Just anything clear. | ||
| Like vodka, tequila, whiskey. | ||
| Whiskey's clear? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it doesn't have sugar. | ||
| It doesn't have gluten. | ||
| Holy cat. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What is that in there? | ||
| It's a whole lot of vodka. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| Trying to get them fucked up, man. | ||
| Does marijuana have any adverse effects on performance? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's going to impact lung function to some degree. | ||
| If you really go to town on marijuana, it's got enough of a phytoestrogenic effect that you can suppress testosterone. | ||
| Like that old wives' tale about dudes growing tits because they smoke too much weed? | ||
| Is that like their diet? | ||
| You can't grow tits, can you? | ||
| You can't grow tits, but you can suppress testosterone production. | ||
| How much do you have to be smoking to do that? | ||
| You smoke a lot. | ||
| I mean, a lot. | ||
| You've got to go crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, you know, pot's another... | ||
| It's interesting when it's contrasted with, say, tobacco. | ||
| You don't see the same type of emphysema. | ||
| You don't see the same type of carcinogenic effects, even though you've got all... | ||
| I mean, you're creating a ton of different chemicals. | ||
| When you burn something, you make these things, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, these soot particles that get in between DNA and can cause problems. | ||
| When you look at the research on marijuana use, you just don't see the same types of things popping up. | ||
| Now, for a hard-charging athlete, I think that you would probably be better off if you want to have a relaxing evening, like making some brownies or something like that. | ||
| The delivery system is going to change the effects a lot, for sure. | ||
| Well, the delivery system changes the effects, but it's also vaporizing, which is the same sort of delivery system, a very similar delivery system, but you're just getting the THC vapor and you're not getting all the carbon. | ||
| Other goodies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All the burnt shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They say that marijuana smoke is actually an expectorant and it's good for cleaning out lungs. | ||
| If you've got some shit in your lungs and you smoke something, but that could just be pot talk. | ||
| There's some stuff like mullein also, which is used for that. | ||
| I could see that to some degree. | ||
| What is mullein? | ||
| It's actually a North American herb, like traditional Native American kind of medicine, stuff like that. | ||
| Weed. | ||
| It has some other benefits, but in folklore it's used as an expectorin as well. | ||
| Now, what about, like, Advil and ibuprofen and non-steroidal anti-inflammatories? | ||
| Are those dangerous for your body? | ||
| They're super dangerous. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Each year, thousands of people, I don't know, like, it'd be easy to do a doctor Google on that, but see, you know, how many deaths there are each year due to NSAIDs, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory overdoses. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Fucked up stuff. | ||
| With Vicodin, they pair Vicodin with acetaminophen, Tylenol, with the express purpose so that people don't take more of it to get a narcotic effect because it will cause liver damage. | ||
| And there are thousands of people that end up dying But, you know, inadvertently because they may have a drink and then they take some Vicodin, which you're not really supposed to do. | ||
| But the acetaminophen makes the whole thing so much more toxic. | ||
| Like, they're literally killing people into no better effect versus taking, you know, if somebody has some legitimate pain, just taking some opiates is going to be really powerful on that. | ||
| You may not want to stay on that forever because the stuff's super addictive and has all kinds of other side effects. | ||
| But a lot of our kind of drugs policy, even on the orthodox side, Over-the-counter side is really goofy. | ||
| And the stuff is dangerous. | ||
| There are a lot of people who will work out, get sore, take NSAIDs to go work out again. | ||
| What is NSAIDs? | ||
| Non-steroidal anti-inflammatories. | ||
| And it's bad on a lot of levels. | ||
| One of them, I mentioned the hormesis before, like the adaptation to exercise. | ||
| If you take NSAIDs in conjunction with exercise, you're blocking some of the adaptation. | ||
| So it's that same thing. | ||
| It's kind of like exercising and missing sleep. | ||
| You're not going to So if you have a backache and you take ibuprofen, you're actually fucking yourself. | ||
| You're fucking yourself out of some potential healing. | ||
| Yeah, but it's tough. | ||
| I tweaked my back a number of years ago. | ||
| I used to compete in powerlifting. | ||
| And one time, I did something wrong. | ||
| My SI joint got tweaked, and I couldn't stand up. | ||
| I was totally bent over, sideways, twisted up. | ||
| And so taking some ibuprofen then can relax the muscles a little bit. | ||
| It brings the inflammation down. | ||
| But you use it in an acute fashion. | ||
| You use it for a day or two for a specific problem instead of what folks do, which is basically staying on it continuously. | ||
| So those people are fucking themselves. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You're poisoning yourself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What about for athletes? | ||
| Is there a negative effect of it that is shown in camps? | ||
| There's problems with increased tendon ruptures because the tendons don't heal. | ||
| It decreases cardiac output. | ||
| So there's a lot of reasons for not using it. | ||
| And for just taking some fish oil, getting your vitamin D levels up by either being out in the sun or supplementing with vitamin D. Smart training, periodizing your training a little bit, stuff like that. | ||
| I've never heard that ibuprofen was so bad. | ||
| That's so important. | ||
| That's such important information. | ||
| I had always felt like it can't be good, but I had no idea it was that bad for you. | ||
| It's very powerful for an acute injury. | ||
| So you tweak your back, you roll an ankle or something, and it really suppresses inflammation very powerfully. | ||
| So use it then and use it then only. | ||
| Yeah, use it, you know, like one dose to try to knock inflammation down. | ||
| Yeah, so when people, you know, when people say, oh, I have a headache, give me those things, they just pop them all the time. | ||
| It's a horrible idea. | ||
| Okay, very important. | ||
| I have a lot of friends who could benefit from that information. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What should you take when you have inflammation? | ||
| Is there any sort of dietary remedy or is there anything that you could replace ibuprofen with that's a good anti-inflammatory that's actually beneficial or healthy? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fish oil and vitamin D, just keeping those levels up. | ||
| Fish oil really does work. | ||
| For folks who don't know, if you've ever had joint pain, in jujitsu a lot of guys get elbow pain. | ||
| You're always fighting off arm bars and camoras and stuff and your joints get tweaked a lot. | ||
| Fish oil makes a fucking tremendous difference. | ||
| A real difference between me walking around in no pain or me walking around like, what's that? | ||
| You really feel a difference. | ||
| It sounds crazy that you're actually lubing your joints. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But that really is what's going on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you get a lot of mileage out of fish oil. | ||
| Vitamin D is really, really important. | ||
| How much fish oil should you take a day? | ||
| Two to four grams, which isn't a ton. | ||
| Two to four grams. | ||
| So when you have a milligram, you should take 10 of those? | ||
| Or 100 milligrams? | ||
| 1,000 milligrams is a gram. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So 10. That's what I take. | ||
| I take 10 a day. | ||
| 10 of the 100 milligrams. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Okay, so they must be really small. | ||
| Okay, yeah. | ||
| So that's going to be like one... | ||
| That's one gram. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You take two grams? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow, you're an animal. | ||
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How many capsules is that? | |
| I bet yours are a thousand milligrams. | ||
| I bet they're a one gram capsule. | ||
| So if they are, then it's how many for a... | ||
| Two to four of those is plenty. | ||
| But for a thousand milligrams, how many... | ||
| It's one gram. | ||
| Oh, it is one gram. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I'm going off, dude, because I'm taking ten of those. | ||
| You travel a lot and stuff. | ||
| You're probably fine. | ||
| So it's probably good? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It makes a difference, man. | ||
| When I don't do it, it sounds ridiculous. | ||
| I take five in the morning and five at night. | ||
| But when I don't do it, I feel a difference. | ||
| You take it with food though, right? | ||
| Always. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Something that I do that I just incorporated because someone told me that you said this. | ||
| I don't even know if you really said this. | ||
| But I have a kale shake every morning and I start incorporating some fat into it. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To absorb the vitamins better. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I use coconut oil. | ||
| Is that good? | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I'm still not a fan of shakes usually. | ||
| It tastes like dog shit, but I eat them, man. | ||
| Have some bacon and eggs. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Bacon and eggs are just as good? | ||
| You like kale shakes? | ||
| I do. | ||
| I like the way it makes me feel, man. | ||
| It's one thing when I blend kale and cucumber and I use a big chunk of ginger and four or five cloves of garlic. | ||
| I've been going with five lately. | ||
| And then pineapples, the new fruit. | ||
| I used to use pears. | ||
| And then the coconut oil. | ||
| It feels so ridiculously nutritious. | ||
| Like right when I eat it, my body's like, whoa! | ||
| First of all, the garlic and the ginger alone just makes your whole body go, whoa! | ||
| It's like sends a message like, holy shit, we're delivering some fucking goods. | ||
| All exits open. | ||
| I tried to make it, Joe. | ||
| I couldn't do it. | ||
| Hey, you're not as good a man when it comes to eating terrible, disgusting shit. | ||
| Yeah, I hate ginger. | ||
| It was just too thick. | ||
| Dude, your poop, though? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I've never enjoyed pooping more in my life. | ||
| It becomes an event. | ||
| It would be epic. | ||
| You would be like a goose yourself at that point. | ||
| It becomes an event. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because I eat normal at night, but that's how I start off every day. | ||
| Whee! | ||
| I started doing this because of Kevin James. | ||
| Kevin James did this movie called Here Comes the Boom where he plays an MMA fighter. | ||
| It comes out in October and he lost 80 pounds for this movie. | ||
| And the way he lost it was by... | ||
| He went on a totally vegan diet. | ||
| The first thing he did every day... | ||
| But he had a chef prepare him food all day long while he was in training for this movie. | ||
| So he didn't have to make any choices. | ||
| It was all in front of him. | ||
| This is what you're going to eat for dinner. | ||
| Here's your snack. | ||
| Everything is... | ||
| Food was just falling off him. | ||
| But the beginning of every day is a kale shake. | ||
| And he's like, you've got to just choke it down. | ||
| The benefits of it that are spectacular. | ||
| You don't agree with that? | ||
| I would go more for bacon and eggs and a double espresso. | ||
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Why is that? | |
| It sounds awesome. | ||
| I love this guy. | ||
| I'm changing everything. | ||
| I'm going back. | ||
| You know, that whack of protein just releases a bunch of dopamine in the brain. | ||
| You're happy. | ||
| You're centered. | ||
| You're focused. | ||
| The caffeine releases dopamine. | ||
| So, like, bacon and coffee... | ||
| When you feel in love... | ||
| Bacon and eggs and coffee is good. | ||
| When you feel love, like you look at... | ||
| Tell you, Joe. | ||
| I've been doing it for the longest time. | ||
| You look into your wife's eyes and you feel love. | ||
| You're feeling dopamine. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so, like, bacon and coffee release dopamine. | ||
| So, bacon and coffee are love. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's incredible. | ||
| Bacon and coffee are love. | ||
| It totally makes sense why they're so delicious. | ||
| There's an emotional connection to them, as with chocolate, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's an emotional connection to the foods as well. | ||
| Bacon and coffee are love. | ||
| Try one month of bacon, eggs, and coffee, and then try one month of kale shake and let me know which one you like better. | ||
| But doesn't the kale shake, isn't the nutrients really important? | ||
| The nutrients you get from kale shakes, they make me feel great. | ||
| I fucking love it. | ||
| I'm going to keep eating it for the poop alone. | ||
| Give it a whirl. | ||
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Give it a shot. | |
| Try it out for one month. | ||
| But I mean, you don't need all those vitamins in the kale. | ||
| You don't need all those vitamins in the celery and the cucumber and the garlic. | ||
| That's all great, but I mean, you could get that with a salad later. | ||
| Just as good? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Just throw some salad, you know, olive oil on it? | ||
| And eating this giant bundle of vegetables ground down to, like, a liquid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm not, like, benefiting myself and having all those extra nutrients? | ||
| You... | ||
| So the fact that you put coconut oil in there is good because a lot of people make all that stuff low fat and a lot of the phytochemicals, a lot of the antioxidants only dissolve in fat. | ||
| So when you put that, it's kind of like doing an extract. | ||
| So just a regular salad is not good enough. | ||
| You have to have a good ranch dressing or something. | ||
| Or olive oil or something, yeah. | ||
| But not with blue cheese. | ||
| Ranch dressing. | ||
| Not with wings. | ||
| That absorbs more nutrients out of the wings. | ||
| So you really do need some fat in your dressing if you want to absorb all the nutrients of your salad. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Because people always say, I want the low-fat, low-fat this and low-fat that. | ||
| They're not getting nutrients that way. | ||
| And all the nutrients are just shooshing in and out. | ||
| And before I had to take a leak, you asked me about minerals and stuff like that. | ||
| It's a bunch of the things that you would normally be able to get out of food. | ||
| It's enhanced the way you absorb it if you have some fat with it. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| So when people just eat a regular salad, just straight lettuce and greens, you're really fucking yourself. | ||
| You really should have something. | ||
| You should have something with it. | ||
| You either eat some meat with it. | ||
| Almond butter, some meat, chicken, something fatty. | ||
| You need something fat. | ||
| So if you're vegan, then you would throw some almond butter in it. | ||
| You'd have some coconut oil in it or something like that. | ||
| And if you just eat vitamins on their own, it's useless. | ||
| Vitamins on an empty stomach doesn't really work. | ||
| You don't absorb them as well? | ||
| What percentage do you think you would absorb? | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| You know, I mean, your pee still turns fluorescent. | ||
| So, I mean, you're still absorbing it with that regard. | ||
| But the vitamins definitely work synergistically with a lot of the products and food. | ||
| So, I think it's smarter to just take it with that. | ||
| So, you get some sort of an effect if you take it on an empty stomach, but a very minimalized... | ||
| Yeah, and, you know, much less effective. | ||
| Stomach upset would be one possibility. | ||
| Yeah, hard pills, especially, like compact and multivitamins or something like that. | ||
| Yeah, you might be passing a nugget. | ||
| Would nuts and salad be better than, say, ranch dressing, full-on ranch dressing, you know? | ||
| Ranch dressing is delicious, especially with bacon bits. | ||
| Yeah, well, this motherfucker's trying to lose weight, though. | ||
| He doesn't want that ranch dressing. | ||
| What should he do to lose weight? | ||
| I mean, nuts, though. | ||
| Aren't nuts high in fat? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Supposed to be, yeah. | ||
| That'd be a good option. | ||
| Raw nuts especially, right? | ||
| Yeah, because you tend not to overeat them. | ||
| It's that palatability thing again. | ||
| So if you roast them and salt them, they taste better and you can eat more. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You go off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I don't eat raw almonds nearly as much as those ones when they're smoky. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those smoky almonds. | ||
| I don't know what that smoky shit is. | ||
| It's yum. | ||
| It's smoky yum. | ||
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It can't be good for you. | |
| So, there's no need for kale shakes. | ||
| Is this what you're telling me? | ||
| Because I've been living off this for months. | ||
| I mean, if you like it, definitely go for it. | ||
| But, you know, I think some of the mixed green, you know, foods can be kind of cool. | ||
| Some dude just walked in. | ||
| Why don't you lock the door, son? | ||
| Shit's ridiculous. | ||
| Somebody just walked in. | ||
| We have a non-secure studio. | ||
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Oops. | |
| Normally, always secure. | ||
| So, you don't need all those nutrients, and how much vegetable nutrients do you need in a day? | ||
| If you're going to eat bacon and eggs for breakfast... | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| Bacon and eggs for breakfast, because people usually whine about, I don't have time, I need to get stuff done quickly. | ||
| I call it the meat and nuts breakfast, where it's basically some eggs, some bacon, some turkey with some almonds or something like that. | ||
| It's quick. | ||
| It's easy. | ||
| You get a dose of dopamine. | ||
| You get your hormones balanced, going right out of the gate. | ||
| If somebody's a hard-charging athlete, they're probably going to need to throw some carbs in it. | ||
| I'm just saying general. | ||
| So if you're going to work out later in the day, you might want to start with like some fruit or like some yams or some sweet potatoes or something like that with this. | ||
| But that first meal, if you make it mainly protein and fat, you have good rock solid energy level. | ||
| I usually train at noon, like if I'm able to get into Jits at noon, then I eat at either one or two. | ||
| And so I'll eat lunch then. | ||
| So I usually do like that protein. | ||
| So what do you do for breakfast? | ||
| Breakfast is usually bacon and eggs or something like that. | ||
| Bacon and eggs and then you go train? | ||
| A couple hours later, four hours later, I train. | ||
| With carbs? | ||
| With bacon and eggs? | ||
| Post-workout, I eat like a giant sweet potato, like mega sweet potato with some protein. | ||
| And I've got some veggies. | ||
| And then my dinner... | ||
| Is a little bit of protein with a metric ton of veggies and then some fat. | ||
| So I'm doing a boatload of cooked veggies or a salad or something. | ||
| So I'm getting all the veggies at the end of the day with a bunch of fat. | ||
| I'm streamlining my breakfast, but I'm getting enough protein in the morning so that my energy level is good, my blood sugar is good, and all that stuff. | ||
| And then I'm recovering from training by doing some post-workout carbs. | ||
| And say, like, when I start doing jits, because I'm old now and just beat down and everything, I'm not really doing much else. | ||
| I might lift weights a little bit or do a little gymnastics, but I'm not really needing a lot of glycogen repletion between workouts. | ||
| But if you had somebody that was doing multiple sessions a day, then you just start doing more carb repletion feeds. | ||
| So, you know, breakfast would be protein and yams and sweet potatoes and fruit. | ||
| So, you throw down the carbs based on kind of what glycogen you're burning in your workouts. | ||
| I've never heard anybody advocate bacon and eggs for breakfast with coffee. | ||
| Sounds like a heaven. | ||
| It seems too good to be true, man. | ||
| What about potatoes? | ||
| Are they good, bad? | ||
| Great post-workout. | ||
| Phenomenal post-workout because you're deputed of sugar. | ||
| The carbohydrate density. | ||
| But not good just as a meal. | ||
| Not good like you're eating dinner with a steak and potatoes. | ||
| The potato's not good. | ||
| What is wrong with potato as opposed to sweet potato? | ||
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Is it fiber? | |
| Less nutrients, but again, it's a little bit specific to the person. | ||
| Somebody like you that's lean and athletic and doing a lot of activity. | ||
| Then for dinner, a piece of meat with a baked potato or a sweet potato, that's fine because you've got the activity level where you need that level of carb intake. | ||
| Somebody that's trying to lose some weight and they maybe have some insulin dysregulation, like their blood sugars go high and low, their insulin goes high and low, they would probably be better off not having that. | ||
| Folks want to paint like a kind of a one-size-fits-all picture, but it's very specific. | ||
| It's like, are we talking about a metabolically broken type 2 diabetic? | ||
| Are we talking about an athlete? | ||
| Are we talking about just kind of a recreationally active stay-at-home mom? | ||
| So it's really important to consider who are we talking about? | ||
| What are their goals? | ||
| What are they working towards? | ||
| And that will steer the boat both with regards to their training and also their nutrition. | ||
| Yeah, I've always felt that with athletics that there's a reason why when you have a heavy weightlifting workout you crave meat. | ||
| I mean, it's a very distinct craving. | ||
| If you're a meat eater, if you're the type of person who eats meat, when you work out right away, like right when it's over, you want a fucking steak, you want a burger, your body is saying, give me some meat, bitch. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It's probably an instinct that, I mean, your muscles in your body are probably sending a message, right? | ||
| Yeah, and it's a great way to stabilize your blood sugar. | ||
| You eat some protein, and that is going to be a slow-release glucose into your system because your body can convert the amino acids into glucose. | ||
| Kind of the ideal thing is a pretty good whack of protein with a little bit of carbs. | ||
| It just keeps things nice. | ||
| Should you not drink water while you eat? | ||
| You know, it's not a bad idea, and it's a little bit lunatic fringe, but you dilute the digestive enzymes a little bit, and I think that you probably have better digestion without liquids during the meal. | ||
| And part of it, too, you notice when people drink liquid with their meal, they just kind of gum their food once or twice, and then they take some water and shoot it down, and their eyes bulge because it's like a python swallowing a swamp rat or something. | ||
| It is true. | ||
| People chew less. | ||
| We're so lazy. | ||
| We'd rather drink... | ||
| To shoo shit down. | ||
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People are so fucking stupid. | |
| So it's better to not have water with it and to chew your food up really well. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| When you wake up, Mike Dolce says you wake up, you should have eight ounces of water before you do anything. | ||
| I think that's smart. | ||
| Start the process. | ||
| Even more than that. | ||
| How much water do you drink a day? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know, when I get up, I usually do almost a quart of water. | ||
| I actually heat it. | ||
| A quart of water? | ||
| Yeah, and I do maybe half of it, you know, in a pretty good shot. | ||
| You heat it? | ||
| Yeah, because that stimulates, like, the digestive stuff. | ||
| So I'll do that. | ||
| How hot? | ||
| Not super hot. | ||
| I mean, it's just warm. | ||
| So it's not like, you know, frozen cold because I'm getting it out of the filter out of the fridge. | ||
| I'll pop it in the microwave and heat it up just a little bit, you know, so it's like room temperature or something. | ||
| So I'll do half of that. | ||
| Like immediately, I'll go sit down on the computer, start checking email. | ||
| I've got a stovetop espresso maker where I've got coffee that starts brewing. | ||
| I've got a timer for that. | ||
| That's six minutes. | ||
| Usually I finish the water within like six to ten minutes. | ||
| And then I throw my bacon on my grill, which I grill at really low temperature, long time, like 200 degrees, slow grilled. | ||
| You slow grill bacon? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why do you do that? | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| It is amazing. | ||
| You're baking every day. | ||
| Not every day, but I mean a lot of days. | ||
| But, you know, I'll go through a tear where I have bacon a lot, and then I won't have it for two months, three months. | ||
| Like, I'll just be like, I'm over it, and I'm done. | ||
| So you slow grill it over a regular grill? | ||
| It's an electric grill, non-stick deal. | ||
| I just put it on 200 and it slow grills for two hours and it just makes it so amazing. | ||
| Two hour bacon? | ||
| That's like a fetish type thing. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| That sounds like heaven. | ||
| It's like burning incense. | ||
| It's bacon incense. | ||
| You're completely blowing my mind in so many ways on this show. | ||
| I just had blood work done for life insurance. | ||
| I'm 40 years old. | ||
| New York Life did the full deal, crawled up my hoo-ha, all the blood work and everything. | ||
| And I have the... | ||
| Blood work parameters, the bio parameters of somebody who's 28 years old. | ||
| So, like, they gave me the perfect, you know, health score. | ||
| They've never had a 40-year-old male with as good of biomarkers as I have. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I was talking to their underwriter about the whole paleo thing, and I'm like, because the one thing they ding me on, I'm 5'9", 175 pounds, and so according to their charts, I was overweight. | ||
| And I was like, well, I lift weights, and I'm reasonably lean, and I shot on pictures and everything. | ||
| The guy's like, okay, that's cool. | ||
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| That's hilarious. | ||
| That's such a stupid way of finding out if someone's overweight. | ||
| The BMI. Yeah. | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like it's just saying, nah, there's no variables. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Being 180 pounds and 5'9 is equal whether you lift weights or whether you are overweight. | ||
| Eat Twinkies. | ||
| It's such a silly thing. | ||
| People look at that and like, you need to go and get your body fat tested. | ||
| You need to get your body mass indicator needs to be done. | ||
| Do you think soaking or the electrical one when you stand on it? | ||
| What's the best one to figure out? | ||
| The immersion tank is really the only way to go. | ||
| That's the best way to go? | ||
| The other stuff is so highly variable. | ||
| Most of it is geared towards overweight people, so if you have an athletic population using it, it's not even on the same planet. | ||
| It's not even close. | ||
| Yeah, I've heard that the one that tests you, if you stand on it, if it gets your body fat, if you're dehydrated, it registers that as more fat. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because it's more resistance for the electricity to pass through your system. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fascinating. | ||
| I probably run like 8% to 10% body fat, reasonably lean, not like ridiculously lean, but reasonably lean. | ||
| And there was some sort of a health fair going on, and I jumped on one of these scales, and it put me at 32% body fat. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| And you could imagine that maybe it's like, okay, maybe it's 12 or maybe even 15, which would be almost 50% off, but it was like, okay, yeah, there's something seriously broken there. | ||
| What is your normal body fat? | ||
| I think like 7 to 10, 8 to 10, something like that. | ||
| You like to stay at that? | ||
| Reasonably lean, yeah. | ||
| If you get leaner than that, then I notice my performance tanks. | ||
| So you would like to be kind of rag pit, fight club lean, but then you can't actually fight. | ||
| Yeah, isn't that funny? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, dudes that are really super lean when you see them competing in MMA that have cut an incredible amount of weight, how much of an impact does that have? | ||
| Just the fact that even when they rehydrate, they have to fight so lean. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Depending on the individual? | ||
| Some people run lean and still have some good performance, but wired into our brain, wired into our genetics is a really tightly controlled mechanism to know how much body fat we have. | ||
| Usually we want some, not too much, because you start getting unhealthy with too much. | ||
| But if you start getting really, really lean, your body registers that as a stress because you don't have much survival reserve. | ||
| Like if there was a starvation scenario, then, you know, your body starts getting anxious about that and it'll elevate cortisol. | ||
| It'll suppress your work output because it doesn't want you to be too lean. | ||
| Dude, you're making people so happy today. | ||
| Do you understand what you're doing here? | ||
| You're saying bacon and eggs in the morning is good. | ||
| You're saying coffee is good. | ||
| You're saying you need some fat? | ||
| You're saying a couple of drinks is okay? | ||
| Tactical bacon? | ||
| It lasts for 10 years. | ||
| It has 18 servings. | ||
| Oh, that can't be good, Brian. | ||
| You want to get real bacon, son. | ||
| You listening to what he said about preservatives? | ||
| That's some shit if you're dying. | ||
| You're in a fucking bunker. | ||
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No, if you're That's not tactical. | |
| Camping is not tactical. | ||
| There's a fucking AK-47 on the trunk. | ||
| It shows you what that is. | ||
| That box is designed for when the end of the world comes. | ||
| You need bacon. | ||
| The doomsay bunker. | ||
| Don't eat the shit that's only going to be here at the end of the world, okay? | ||
| I would say get some real bacon, you silly bitch. | ||
| So what I need to do is start my own farm and cook my own bacon slow for two hours. | ||
| That's a... | ||
| That's how you started off? | ||
| Yeah, dude. | ||
| That's the route to a happy life. | ||
| When do you start the bacon? | ||
| We have a three-month-old kid now, daughter. | ||
| I take the early morning shift, so I grab her from my wife about 5.30 or 6, play with her, get the bacon going, do all that stuff. | ||
| So I'm up then. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a fetish thing. | ||
| Two-hour bacon is a bit fetish. | ||
| You know, I'm cooking it ahead of time because my wife gets up around 8. And so I'm cooking it. | ||
| And then about the time she starts getting up, then I get some eggs going. | ||
| My coffee's already been done. | ||
| I make her some coffee. | ||
| How did you know that this is a good move to have it slow cook for two hours? | ||
| So my buddy, Matt Lalonde, who's a Harvard PhD chemist, we call him the Kraken. | ||
| He's like, unleash the Kraken! | ||
| He's just a wickedly smart dude. | ||
| But he did all this research and he's like, slow cooking meat is the only way that you should do it. | ||
| You're a moron if you do anything else. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy because I cook steaks quick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're so good, too. | ||
| They're super good. | ||
| And I mean, the grilling deal is, you know, there's a big argument for it. | ||
| How do you get like a sear? | ||
| How do you get like that outer crispy brown? | ||
| You don't, but you think about someone like the pit barbecue and stuff, which is slow-cooked. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| So, I mean, there's some trade-offs. | ||
| I like that, too, but I also like a medium-rare steak that's done correctly. | ||
| I guess the Argentinian method of cooking steaks is a low and slow cooking method. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They have a love of steak as well. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And really good meat. | ||
| It's all grass fed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's how most of the fucking world is. | ||
| I love that Brazil just won a big lawsuit over Monsanto. | ||
| Do you know this? | ||
| No, I didn't hear about this. | ||
| I know that Monsanto was trying to push into Mexico. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure they're going to push everywhere eventually. | ||
| But Brazil won some multi-billion dollar lawsuit. | ||
| A bunch of farmers from Brazil won against Monsanto. | ||
| It's just, we've got to figure out a way to let people grow grass and have the animals eat grass because that's the healthiest way. | ||
| I mean, it really... | ||
| Someone should be able to say, hey listen, we're being silly here. | ||
| Let's do this the way these animals are supposed to be eating. | ||
| We see what happens when we make them eat animals, when we make them eat themselves, which is the most insane thing about farming ever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The mad cow disease, ladies and gentlemen, if you don't know, was started because they made cows eat other fucking cows. | ||
| And they just had another E. coli breakout. | ||
| And the way that this E. coli becomes problematic when you feed cattle grains, it increases the stomach acid content in the cattle. | ||
| It gives them GERD, a gastroesophageal reflux disease type deal because of the elevated acid. | ||
| And this E. coli that is normally killed by stomach acid, you selectively breed it to survive high acid environment. | ||
| So the stuff that normally our own stomach acid would kill, because we feed the cattle grains instead of grass, we actually produce like a superbug. | ||
| That then if it gets some other genetic modifications, it makes it deadly. | ||
| And it can survive going through the digestive process where normally we would kill it. | ||
| So, you know, the grain feeding of cattle is just like, it's super expensive, it's dirty, it's subsidized. | ||
| But there is a benefit of packing on more fat on the animal, which makes it a little bit more juicy when you cook it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's interesting though, like if you find folks, like we spent a bunch of time in Nicaragua and stuff, and the folks from there, you get used to eating the meat that's grass-fed, and it's definitely leaner, but it's very, very flavorful and it's different. | ||
| It's more gamey almost. | ||
| It's almost a little more gamey, yeah. | ||
| People have that association with gaming. | ||
| I think vibrant. | ||
| That's when I say gaming. | ||
| Whereas I mean funky. | ||
| Grass-fed meat tastes more like butter. | ||
| It's got a buttery consistency to it. | ||
| Grass-fed beef is really delicious. | ||
| Grain-fed beef is a little bit more... | ||
| Well, they're sick. | ||
| That's really what it is. | ||
| You're eating a sick animal. | ||
| That's why I don't like Kobe. | ||
| Scary stuff. | ||
| The one in Food Inc. | ||
| when they had the hole in the animal's side because it was like fucking stomach acids were rotting. | ||
| Yeah, when you feed cattle grains, it's a race against time to get them fat enough to take them to market before they die from all the gastrointestinal problems. | ||
| Here's an interesting thing. | ||
| There's a guy, Dr. Michael Eads, who's kind of a long-time low-carb guy, but he's kind of a paleo guy too. | ||
| Really interesting dude. | ||
| But he was doing some research on just diets and different things. | ||
| He's from Arkansas, so he went to a feedlot, a feed store, and he asked the guy, hey, what do you feed animals to get them fat? | ||
| Horses and cattle and pigs and all that. | ||
| And they're like, well, the guy upstairs, It has this manual, and it was like a feeding manual for weight gain in animals or something. | ||
| And he opens it up, and when you looked at the ratios of protein-carbohydrate to fat, it was like identical to the food pyramid. | ||
| I mean, fucking spot on. | ||
| Whereas used to, you know, like the four food groups even, which like when you and I were kids was still more the gig, you typically ate more fat, more protein, and less carbs, just in general. | ||
| So it was really interesting, like the formula, the standardized formula in this Huge tome of a book to get animals fat for sale was identical to the food ratios recommended by the ADA. Wow. | ||
| It's a fattening diet because of the carbohydrate content, because of the allowance for refined sugars and stuff like that. | ||
| And you said this all started being implemented in the 1970s, the recommendation for grains. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you know, prior to like the late 60s, early 70s, whenever you went to a doctor and you were overweight, you were recommended, you were prescribed a low-carb diet. | ||
| For like a hundred years, that was the norm. | ||
| And this is, Gary Taubes wrote a really interesting book, Good Calories, Bad Calories. | ||
| It's huge. | ||
| Like you can only read it like a page at a time. | ||
| It's like reading biblical text. | ||
| It's super thick. | ||
| But for a hundred years, It was just understood that if you were overweight, you cut out beer, potatoes, pasta, rice, eat protein and fat and green vegetables, and you lost weight. | ||
| And it was just woven into You know, all of medicine. | ||
| And then around the 1950s, we had this idea that heart disease was caused by fat consumption, which had never been borne out by the science. | ||
| It was, interestingly, a vegetarian on a political committee That kind of put this thing forward and ended up enacting a bunch of the laws that push this stuff forward. | ||
| And we've spent billions of dollars trying to prove that saturated fat causes cardiovascular disease. | ||
| They had the Framingham Heart Study, which was 30,000 nurses or something like that, tracked over like 30 years. | ||
| And the nurses that ate the most fat, the most saturated fat, ate the most calories, were the leanest, had the highest energy levels, and tended to be the longest lived. | ||
| And so, I mean, it's totally the Emperor's New Clothes type thing. | ||
| Like, everything we've been told is just fucking wrong. | ||
| Like, and not Petit Mall wrong, like Grand Mall wrong. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| What about salt causing problems? | ||
| A lot of things in biology have what's called a U-shaped curve. | ||
| So like if you have too low of intake, you have a high rate of disease. | ||
| As the intake increases, disease drops to a low point. | ||
| And then above a certain point, disease starts going up. | ||
| And there's so many nutrients and biological processes. | ||
| Exercise is a good one. | ||
| You don't have any exercise, you're likely to die from a host of problems. | ||
| You have a good amount of exercise, your likelihood of being healthy and dying decreases. | ||
| Too much exercise and you're like the diet that dies during an ultramarathon. | ||
| So salt is exactly the same. | ||
| Like we should have some salt and it's actually, it's like three to five grams a day. | ||
| It's a reasonably high level that hits that really low ebb of decreasing. | ||
| Yeah, being beneficial. | ||
| There are some people that respond very negatively to chloride, which salt is sodium chloride, and they respond very negatively to it. | ||
| They retain water. | ||
| It jacks up their blood pressure. | ||
| So there are some people that they need to be pretty low salt. | ||
| Otherwise, they're going to have cardiovascular problems. | ||
| So does it cause hypertension in people if they overdose in it, or is that a misnomer? | ||
| It can, but interestingly, when you consume carbohydrate and your insulin levels go up, when insulin goes up, another hormone called aldosterone goes up, and aldosterone causes your body to retain salt. | ||
| And when you retain salt, you retain water. | ||
| So it's actually an indirect way that sodium elevates blood pressure. | ||
| But if your insulin levels are high, say you're eating a high-carb diet, you know, like grain-based, you know, ADA-recommended diet, and you cut your salt back, you may still have very high blood pressure because of the insulin problem, not necessarily the salt problem. | ||
| Whereas you're eating a little lower carb, you could eat some salt, and it's not going to be problematic at all. | ||
| So most people don't have sodium issues. | ||
| I would say it's less an issue of sodium and more an issue of carbohydrate and also sleep, circling back around. | ||
| Only one or two nights of missed sleep, like poor sleep, can make you as insulin resistant as a type 2 diabetic. | ||
| It's a no joke deal. | ||
| It deranges insulin function immediately. | ||
| Have you ever fucked around with an isolation tank? | ||
| You know, I haven't. | ||
| I have not. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I've done a bunch of meditation, all kinds of psychedelics. | ||
| I've done all kinds of other stuff along my life. | ||
| Oh, thank you. | ||
| You're into recovery so much. | ||
| The tank would be shit. | ||
| I've never had the opportunity to mess with it. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I've got to get you involved with it somehow or another and see what your results are. | ||
| Because I know you're so conscious of your rest. | ||
| And one of the most relaxing feelings ever is doing a couple hours in a tank. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The high saline deal and you just drift off. | ||
| There's 800 pounds of Epsom salts in there. | ||
| 93 and a half degree temperature. | ||
| Same as your skin. | ||
| You float into it. | ||
| You feel nothing after the first 20 minutes. | ||
| Once you get over the fact that you're lying in water, you're flying through space. | ||
| You're completely weightless. | ||
| And everything sort of lengthens out. | ||
| It's so relaxing. | ||
| You'll hear things go pop! | ||
| Like your muscles will stretch out and unwind. | ||
| Because it's literally a feeling of complete weightlessness. | ||
| You're floating in the water. | ||
| It's an amazing feeling. | ||
| Somebody told me about it, but I've just never had a chance to check it out. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| I am still to this day amazed at how little coverage and how little exposure the isolation tank has. | ||
| To me, it's one of the most amazing tools for, first of all, just for thinking. | ||
| Because it's like meditation is one thing. | ||
| I think we've covered visualization and meditation. | ||
| Super important for anybody trying to achieve something. | ||
| But there is no alone like that tank alone. | ||
| That tank alone is you alone from your body. | ||
| It's your mind literally untethered from your physical form. | ||
| It's just thinking. | ||
| You don't see anything. | ||
| You don't hear anything. | ||
| You don't feel anything. | ||
| You just can stay put and not move. | ||
| You won't feel the fucking water. | ||
| You won't feel your body at all. | ||
| You feel you're flying through the darkness and you're completely alone with your thoughts. | ||
| But it's not disassociative because you don't lose yourself. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's yourself as introspective as you ever get. | ||
| You can't escape your insecurities. | ||
| You can't escape your troubles. | ||
| You can't escape the things that you're not liking about what you do, your laziness, your lack of discipline. | ||
| You can't escape any of it. | ||
| It's you untethered from any distractions, any physical distractions, any spatial, recognizing colors, hearing sounds. | ||
| All that's gone. | ||
| There's dark blackness, no sound, no nothing. | ||
| It's an amazing environment, and it's great for relaxation. | ||
| When I come out of there, I feel recharged. | ||
| I can do two hours in the tank, and I feel like I just got up from an awesome eight-hour resting sleep. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Do people come unstitched sometimes? | ||
| They get a little weirded out? | ||
| People get weirded out and quit. | ||
| They just get out of the tank. | ||
| They can't handle the aloneness, the solitude, the silence. | ||
| They can't handle... | ||
| What happens to the mind, because in the absence of any sort of sensory input, the mind can develop a psychedelic state. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so you start hallucinating and having, you know, some really, really crazy and almost like lucid dream type situations. | ||
| Some people don't like that. | ||
| Some people love it. | ||
| Some people, that's what they're looking forward to. | ||
| But just the introspective nature of it and the relaxation that you can achieve inside of it. | ||
| I would be really curious to see how you would be affected by that. | ||
| I can't believe you haven't tried that. | ||
| I would love to try it. | ||
| You're going to fucking love it. | ||
| How long are you in town for? | ||
| Sunday. | ||
| Till Sunday? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I set you up at the float lab in Venice, can you make a trip down there? | ||
| Could you do that? | ||
| Tomorrow I potentially could. | ||
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| Okay, I'll call Crash personally and set it up. | ||
| He makes the best tanks in the country. | ||
| In the world, really. | ||
| His tanks are incredible. | ||
| They look like meat lockers. | ||
| They're these giant things, and they're really wide and deep, and he uses the best possible cleaning equipment. | ||
| All the waters pass through ozone. | ||
| There's no worries ever of anything like being in the water, nothing negative. | ||
| And he always has the temperature perfect, and he's a master at this shit. | ||
| This guy is the best in the world. | ||
| in Venice. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| And he'll totally hook it up. | ||
| It's the Float Lab. | ||
| And if anybody's interested, go to floatlab.com. | ||
| You can see the photos of it. | ||
| They look like crazy fucking time portals, these things. | ||
| And they really are. | ||
| I mean, what it really is, it's like, if you could take a pill that would put you in that state where you're in this crazy darkness flying through space, relieved from all the input from your body, that would be a crazy fucking drug. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, you're achieving a very strange state without a crazy drug. | ||
| I really want you to do it, man. | ||
| We've got to hook it up. | ||
| Oh, I'm there. | ||
| That would be awesome. | ||
| We'll set it up. | ||
| We'll set it up for sure. | ||
| If people want to follow you, the book is called The Paleo Solution. | ||
| It is available, I'm sure, on Amazon. | ||
| Pretty much everywhere, yeah. | ||
| Pretty much everywhere, except audible.com. | ||
| Soon. | ||
| Coming soon. | ||
| You sons of bitches, Audible. | ||
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| Doug. | ||
| Are you working on a deal? | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
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| Yeah, we're just getting ready to basically bring a mobile recording deal to my house, and then I'll sit down and bang the thing out, and then we'll be good. | ||
| If you go to Doug.com, Brian makes money. | ||
| Nice, there we go. | ||
| He's got one of those weird deals with Amazon. | ||
| So go there. | ||
| Support. | ||
| So the Paleo Solution Diet, if anybody else, if they want to get any more information about this, what's the best way to go about it? | ||
| RobWolf.com. | ||
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| And I have everything that anybody would ever need to do this for free on the website. | ||
| So whether you want to lose weight, if you've got an autoimmune disease, if you're a high-level athlete, you don't have to buy the book. | ||
| Go to the website. | ||
| Everything's laid out there for free. | ||
| Do it, and then typically when people do it, they get great results, and then they end up buying the book. | ||
| So, yeah, and then I've got a podcast, Paleo Solution. | ||
| That's once a week. | ||
| Paleo Solution, it's available on iTunes? | ||
| iTunes, yeah, and we're typically between number one and number four in the health category. | ||
| Oh, beautiful. | ||
| We'll duke it out with Jillian Michaels and stuff, so we're doing pretty good on there. | ||
| That fucking bitch! | ||
| I heard something crazy, like someone stole Jillian Michaels' car and crashed into a tree. | ||
| Did you hear that? | ||
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| They broke into her house, stole her badly. | ||
| She would probably kick their ass if she got a hold of it. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| She's hot sex. | ||
| You like that? | ||
| I think she's gay, dude. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can be gay. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think. | ||
| I think she's gay for real, though. | ||
| She's so hot, it's hard to believe. | ||
| She just needs some good dick. | ||
| She just needs you, Brian. | ||
| To be convinced. | ||
| Joe, did you see some persuading? | ||
| I've met a lot of guys. | ||
| I don't understand how any girl doesn't go gay. | ||
| I think they should all go gay. | ||
| Most guys are fucking losers. | ||
| But I think a lot of these poor girls are not really gay. | ||
| They just need some good dick. | ||
| Joe, did you see the pictures I put on? | ||
| I don't mean this, folks, okay? | ||
| If you're some crazy fucking, like, really super leftist person, you want to label me sexist, I'm just talking shit, okay? | ||
| That's what this show is. | ||
| Just having fun. | ||
| Just talking shit. | ||
| I don't really think you can fuck someone straight, okay? | ||
| You feel better now? | ||
| Take all the joy out of comedy? | ||
| Don't you love the exculpatory clause you need on everything? | ||
| You have to do that, man. | ||
| It's kind of like, okay, this is a plastic bag. | ||
| Don't put it over your head. | ||
| Well, I keep talking on my... | ||
| I'm sorry, Brian. | ||
| We'll get right back to you. | ||
| But I keep talking about teen people. | ||
| All sharks can suck my dick. | ||
| We should kill them all. | ||
| We should kill anything that kills you. | ||
| I don't really mean that, you fucking dummies. | ||
| I don't really think you should go out and kill all the sharks. | ||
| But that is the reason why I don't surf. | ||
| It's because I don't want to get eaten by a fucking shark. | ||
| I know they're out there. | ||
| But I don't really think you should kill them all, you fucking idiots. | ||
| I'm going, team people, fuck the sharks, they can suck my dick. | ||
| You really think a shark can suck my dick? | ||
| You really think that's what I'm saying? | ||
| Some people lack the irony gene. | ||
| They don't have a signal for irony. | ||
| Well, not only that, some people have diarrhea of the mouth, and they can't help just saying any stupid thing that comes into their mind. | ||
| And so they put it on Twitter. | ||
| Pretty much be us. | ||
| Yeah, we just did a three-hour podcast, and I'm talking about mouth diarrhea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I told people that I got a sex change on Twitter the other day and I posted a photo of my sister because she can look kind of like me. | ||
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| And people really thought I was dressed in drag or something like that. | ||
| That is awesome. | ||
| There's a lot of fucking morons out there, man. | ||
| Do you think that that is an environmental thing? | ||
| I mean, it's definitely your area of expertise. | ||
| We've created an environment in which a complete moron can not only survive but thrive. | ||
| And they don't have to be able to get along with other people, be productive in their own life. | ||
| There's some safety net that will allow them to reproduce. | ||
| I mean, idiocracy. | ||
| Like, the first ten minutes of idiocracy is it. | ||
| How do we fix this? | ||
| You know, at some point, the sun's gonna expand out to this orbit of Mars and it's not gonna matter, so... | ||
| Is that really what it is? | ||
| We just let this fucking thing fall apart? | ||
| We just fucking write it out. | ||
| I mean, I don't know, man. | ||
| It seems like we're here, though, okay? | ||
| If you're 40, I'm 44. We're here for a certain amount of years. | ||
| We only have a certain amount of time. | ||
| There's got to be a way to make this a more pleasurable and sustainable experience for all the people involved in it and all the future generations before the sun burns out. | ||
| There's gotta be a way to make it more comfortable. | ||
| I just lean towards this whole market-based libertarian kind of self-determination and freedom. | ||
| We have all this fucked up stuff where We have people that want to marry each other, and we won't let them marry each other. | ||
| Chick-fil-A. Exactly. | ||
| Chick-fil-A. People are boycotting Chick-fil-A in Boston. | ||
| They were going off another part of the country saying they don't want Chick-fil-A. It's hilarious. | ||
| So we get people all spun up over stuff like that. | ||
| We dump a bunch of money into a prohibition tactic on the drug scene that we know just doesn't fucking work. | ||
| All it does... | ||
| It eats up resources. | ||
| It creates a black market. | ||
| Well, it also creates jobs, though. | ||
| The real problem with keeping drugs illegal is that there's a whole bunch of people that make their living busting people who are on drugs. | ||
| There's a reason why, by the way, these fucking DEA agents keep raiding medical marijuana dispensers. | ||
| You don't hear a goddamn peep About them busting heroin dealers or busting Oxycontin factories or busting illegal shit like meth labs. | ||
| They're not doing that. | ||
| You don't hear that. | ||
| It's very rare. | ||
| Because that's dangerous as shit. | ||
| And they know they can go into these pot factories or these pot dispensaries. | ||
| They're like a cow. | ||
| They're easy to get. | ||
| It's an easy collar. | ||
| It's an easy collar. | ||
| And it's disgusting. | ||
| Because there's a business involved in giving these people jobs. | ||
| These people that are DEA agents, they have to fucking do work. | ||
| So they're taking the easiest road possible to do that work. | ||
| They're going after... | ||
| Some shit that's illegal that doesn't hurt anybody. | ||
| I mean, it's one of the worst abuses of the law that we have clinically or rather classically on record. | ||
| Like, this is like one of the worst, most obvious abuses of the law. | ||
| How are you serving or protecting by closing a dispensary? | ||
| You're not. | ||
| You know you're not. | ||
| And yet you know that there's real problems out there. | ||
| You know there's meth labs. | ||
| How do these people run meth? | ||
| Drive to Riverside. | ||
| Drive around. | ||
| Drive around to these areas that have meth issues where meth is in their community. | ||
| Where's that meth coming from? | ||
| It's coming from somewhere, you fuck. | ||
| You need to go find that meth, you assholes. | ||
| If you want to find something that's bad, find something that actually does damage. | ||
| They're taking the cheap and easy way out like shitty government employees. | ||
| That's the real problem with drugs being illegal, is that it gives idiots a job in keeping things illegal. | ||
| And you know, we're expanding the idiots. | ||
| We have this kind of wacky healthcare thing that they want. | ||
| And if it's not the foot soldiers, it's whoever the fuck tells them they have to go and bust it. | ||
| Maybe the soldiers... | ||
| The actual officers are the ones who are trying to make a difference. | ||
| I mean, who knows who's the dummy that's telling them they need to close down the medical marijuana dispensaries, but that is the only way you can keep all those people employed. | ||
| They have to be busting somebody. | ||
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| You know, if you have a million DEA agents, or whatever the fuck it is, and you all of a sudden make marijuana legal, what the fuck do they do? | ||
| You know, what do the prisons do? | ||
| When they have all these people that are in jail for something, retroactively should be released... | ||
| I mean, just because they violated a ridiculous law ten years ago, they shouldn't be still locked in a fucking cage if we've determined that law doesn't make any sense. | ||
| So then what happens? | ||
| We let everybody out of the prisons. | ||
| The prisons don't make money anymore. | ||
| The privatized prison stocks go down. | ||
| You're going to fire some of the jail guys? | ||
| Well, then they're going to go crazy with their union. | ||
| Industries come and go all the time. | ||
| That's probably one that could... | ||
| Staying going. | ||
| Yeah, fuck it could but it's not it doesn't seem like that's happening in our life We need to figure out a way to force feed that like a fog wad duck and just listen cocksuckers. | ||
| This is the future It's not right to lock people up for marijuana, you know, it's it's interesting the there was a Ron Paul rally in in Nevada that I went to in Reno, and it was huge and It was all young people and it was like Black people and white people and Asian people. | ||
| And I mean, Nevada doesn't have that much racial diversity. | ||
| And so the fact that there was, you know, this mix there and that they were young and they were impassioned about this kind of libertarian idea, it was pretty interesting. | ||
| And in this Paleo scene, it's a really interesting overlap with it. | ||
| Like almost everybody in this Paleo scene is like kind of libertarian politics. | ||
| Like they want gay marriage. | ||
| They want free drugs. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| I think it's because they're fucking smart. | ||
| It's like they've rattled all the stuff around. | ||
| The vegetarians, and I know people are going to hate me, but there's a sense about, well, we're going to nice our way into a stable world, but the reality is that the way that nature works is that you have carnivores and herbivores, and there's a biodynamic kind of system there, and I think that people in the Paleocene more embrace that, and they embrace decentralized farming and permaculture and things like that, but there's a really... | ||
| Powerful kind of libertarian element to this Paleo scene and it's growing like crazy. | ||
| Like every 12 months on Google it's doubling. | ||
| And as it stands right now, it is just growing exponentially. | ||
| And so you've got kind of a food-oriented, kind of exercise-oriented scene, which is a little culty, but it's also got this interesting kind of market-based libertarian kind of politics that seem to be woven through the whole thing. | ||
| When you say culty, though, I think it speaks to people's ideas. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| When it comes along, when something comes along that speaks to what people had sort of surmised on their own, or at least suspected, but didn't have a direction to put all the facts in, especially when it comes to libertarian ideology and just leaving people alone, letting them do what the fuck they want to do. | ||
| For so many people, that's just a big yes! | ||
| Like, finally! | ||
| What the fuck is going on? | ||
| Is it just this weird-ass fucking society where dumb people are allowed to thrive and that promotes these ridiculous solutions like a 10,000-year-old earth and supporting ridiculous old texts that were written back when people thought the world was flat and the sun was 17 miles away? | ||
| I mean, it almost is like that's suppressing the growth. | ||
| The U.S. is wacky in that we have a remarkably unsophisticated scientific understanding of the way the world works. | ||
| Yet, we make all the coolest science shit. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| It's really weird, you know, as a populist. | ||
| Except for like CERN, right? | ||
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Right, right. | |
| It's like 10,000 scientists. | ||
| Which is super cool, yeah. | ||
| But, you know, it's a weird gig. | ||
| And, you know, I think a lot of... | ||
| The problematic things that pop up, like when you see people who are homeless, when you see families with kids who don't have a job and they don't have a home, then you want to do something to help them. | ||
| And I think having support networks and safety nets are smart, but when you create them in such a way that you're incentivized to stay in versus get out, then you create an indentured class and essentially a slave class because they can't get... | ||
| If you don't incentivize people to have self-direction, Then it's easier for them to stay there, but the easiest way to destroy a person's soul is to provide them their means and not cause them to suffer and to find their own way through life. | ||
| Yeah, they will have no personal development, no character. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is the welfare state. | ||
| Right, and I think that there's lots of good intentions that, you know, the path to hell is paved on good intentions. | ||
| So there's a lot of desire to help people, and, you know, there's a... | ||
| Doing these more market-based approaches like having You know, social support networks being driven more at the local level instead of the federal level and stuff like that. | ||
| So, you know, there's been this thing floating around like the Cato Institute for ages where instead of paying like 50% of my taxes to the federal government like I'm doing now, if I pay to a local 5013C, a local nonprofit, then it's dollar for dollar reduces my tax burden at the federal level. | ||
| And then how, you know, a local nonprofit is going to be transparent. | ||
| It's going to be efficient. | ||
| If they shit the bed on something, you can shut them down and pull your money and put it someplace else. | ||
| And there's a lot of other ways besides just expanding government to get things done and to take care of people. | ||
| And people look at this kind of libertarian idea as being cruel and Machiavellian, that some people are going to be winners and losers. | ||
| That will always be the case, but if we create a vibrant society with freedom and we respect each other's rights, and even if we don't agree, we don't fucking kill each other over the differences and stuff like that, you've got a really amazing thing that could happen from that. | ||
| And I'm optimistic, even while we've got drones flying overhead, even while we've got another move by our supposedly hope and change-oriented president that is oriented towards more internet. | ||
| Suppression and more internet monitoring. | ||
| Like it is really scary shit. | ||
| And it's just wacky to me whether you're on the more liberal side or on the more right-wing conservative side. | ||
| The stuff that people rally behind but not see the cracks in the methodology, it's crazy to me. | ||
| I don't understand it. | ||
| Well, I think people just don't look into it that deeply, and they're usually really fucking busy. | ||
| So what they do is subscribe to an ideology that makes them feel good. | ||
| Whether it's a Christian, God-loving, I'm a Second Amendment believer. | ||
| How many of them have ever even looked into it? | ||
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Give me my gun! | |
| That's my gun! | ||
| I mean, are you really looking at it realistically? | ||
| I support the Second Amendment, but I mean, how many people really should have guns? | ||
| How many people are fucking morons? | ||
| How many people shouldn't have cars? | ||
| I mean, it's like we've made it so easy for someone to have the ability to use something as crazy as a car. | ||
| And I was joking around about, I love American cars. | ||
| I love, like, American muscle cars. | ||
| I love that... | ||
| I mean, it's ridiculous, but I love that, like, Shelby, they're making a new Shelby GT500 with 660 horsepower. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's insane! | ||
| The idea that someone would need 660 fucking horsepower in a streetcar. | ||
| But, I love the fact that you can get it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I love the fact that you could be a fucking idiot with 10 speeding tickets, 15 fucking crashes. | ||
| As long as you're insured... | ||
| And you have whatever it costs, 80 grand or whatever the fuck it is, you can go to a Ford dealership and get by yourself a goddamn 2013 Shelby GT500 and just drive like a maniac until they pull you over and arrest you. | ||
| It's something designed to break the law. | ||
| It's bright red with white stripes on it. | ||
| It sounds like war. | ||
| And it's got 660 fucking horsepower. | ||
| I love that you can just do that. | ||
| But really, you shouldn't be able to. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Really, it is kind of fucking crazy that we allow some asshole who could be texting to have 660 horsepower. | ||
| We trust them. | ||
| We trust them to have their shit together. | ||
| We have to figure out a way to make it so that you have to overcome something to achieve success. | ||
| In order to feed yourself, you've got to do some work. | ||
| In order to, you know, improve your environment and your surroundings, you have to put forth some effort. | ||
| And when we make it so that people just get checks for nothing, that is like the complete opposite of the natural behavior response, natural reward system that's set up for human beings. | ||
| It makes us fat cunts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it steals our soul. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so you're really not helping people in that situation. | ||
| But how do you fix that, though, once it's in place? | ||
| Do you force grandma to work? | ||
| Bitch, get up! | ||
| You're going to starve to death. | ||
| You know, like, there's a lot of things. | ||
| Like, instead of, you know, your retirement going into a government pool, maybe you manage your own health savings account and 401k. | ||
| And some people may shit the bed, and then you may be reliant on the... | ||
| Churches, 501c, stuff like that. | ||
| It's impossible to ensure that everybody is going to be 100% taken care of. | ||
| I think that that's a gut check for people. | ||
| They don't understand it. | ||
| My parents are unfortunately a good example. | ||
| My father was very smart, but he chose not to do the things that he should have done. | ||
| And he could have had an engineering degree. | ||
| He could have done drafting and stuff like that. | ||
| Instead, he just kind of fucked off. | ||
| And he really didn't have much in his later life. | ||
| And it's because, you know, inner child stuff, you know, whatever. | ||
| His father was a horrible person. | ||
| Like, I get that. | ||
| Like, I had a way better childhood than my dad did. | ||
| He had it way more difficult than I did. | ||
| But he had choices that he could have made that would have provided for his family, would have provided for himself, and he chose not to do it. | ||
| And he had a really rough, you know, end of his life. | ||
| The last 15 years of his life sucked. | ||
| But he steered the boat that way, you know, and I just don't want to do that. | ||
| And I think that that's a gut check for people that... | ||
| They want a safety net. | ||
| They want a safety net when you can't save everybody. | ||
| And they think that's what the government is for. | ||
| The government is for a big pillow to make sure that you're going to be okay. | ||
| But when you tell people they're going to be okay, they don't work as hard as when they don't know if they're going to be okay. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's what they need to do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They need a little fear to motivate them. | ||
| Fuck yeah, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think we need that with everything. | ||
| You know, I think everything in life is uncertain and you have to always embrace the idea that you're a temporary being. | ||
| The lights are shutting off no matter when the fucking sun overcomes the earth with its expansion. | ||
| The lights are shutting off for you way sooner than that, bitch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Get it together, you motherfuckers! | ||
| Rob Wolf, you're a bad motherfucker, dude. | ||
| You dropped some serious knowledge on this podcast. | ||
| I really, really appreciate it, man. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
| So informative and interesting, and I bet we could probably do ten of these, right? | ||
| Tell me when you want me back, and I'll bring the mixed drinks next time. | ||
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| The Brazilian wandering spider? | ||
| Yeah, the Brazilian wandering spider gives you, when it stings you, it kills more people than any spider in the world. | ||
| But it kills you by making your dick hard. | ||
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This just sounds like all upside. | |
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