Immortal Technique and Joe Rogan critique modern battle rap’s decline from a career-advancing art form to insult-driven spectacle, while exposing systemic corruption like Miami’s "Cocaine Cowboys" and Harlem’s "Dirty 30," where officers turned into violent gangs. They dissect police betrayal, corporate exploitation, and societal inequality—from Monsanto’s $6B Brazilian lawsuit to welfare’s unintended consequences—arguing profit motives over humanity fuel crises like the BP oil spill and prison-industrial complexes. Rogan’s fitness focus clashes with Technique’s skepticism of systemic "fixes," but both agree ancient mysteries (Göbekli Tepe, Puma Punku) hint at lost knowledge, while power structures remain unchanged despite technological progress. [Automatically generated summary]
He suffered a lot of concussions and he started taking different nutrients that are designed to sort of stimulate your brain function and he created his own sort of blend of them.
And it's called Neuro One.
And that's how I got into nootropics from his stuff.
Because they say that people retain everything or usually a huge amount of what they see every day and that is just subconscious.
So maybe what these things are doing or maybe what they're starting to be able to do Is to pull those memories straight forward because we have so much information in our mind.
Well, there's been a bunch of different studies on all sorts of different nootropics and some really positive results are starting to come back.
There's a new additive that we put into AlphaBrain.
I don't even know the name of the new shit.
If you're interested in any of this stuff, go to Onnit.com.
That's O-N-N-I-T. It's all explained in detail.
But whatever this new shit that we just put into AlphaBrain, that's the technical term for it.
It's been shown to improve golfers.
I don't know.
All these different things.
It has everything firing on all the right points.
You know what I mean?
It makes me feel like the difference between what I take and I don't take it is sort of like the difference between not having a cup of coffee and having a cup of coffee, but not really.
Because it's not like an addictive feeling.
It's not like a...
I get really excited about having coffee.
I can't wait to have it.
And then I get like, oh, it's like a little fix for me.
It's probably not good for you.
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely...
They say it's okay if you drink a cup a day.
But really, why is it okay if you drink a cup a day?
I mean, why is it okay to take a certain amount of stimulants?
But the alpha brain doesn't make you feel stupid when it's over.
It's not like you have an up and then there's a down.
It just gets everything loose.
It's a fascinating subject and there's a lot of controversy but there's a lot of studies and a lot of very promising studies and we're going to do our own eventually.
We're just formulating the final formulation of the blend and the most recent one is the one that I like the best.
It's hard to tell the difference, to be honest with you.
It's like, maybe I'm just eating better now, too.
There's a lot of different things that come into factor when it comes to the way your brain works.
And that's something that everybody needs to consider.
You come into this world, you know, naked, defenseless.
And when you see very elderly people, and I think this gives me a great respect for all that they've been through in life, a lot of times they need help or they can't Move or something like that.
And they're dependent on somebody else to take care of them.
I was just going to say, after the show, me and Joe won't crush that shit up, rolling the L. Yeah, what if that was the secret the whole time about this alpha brain and I didn't even know about it, that you're supposed to snort it?
We're going to make some videos, too, because people keep asking the different exercises.
What kettlebells are is an ancient Russian form of strength training.
It's like a cannonball attached to a handle.
It's the most manly shit you could ever be involved with in your life, okay?
You're swinging around a fucking cannonball.
And if it comes to working out, it's like, for me, I think it's the best strength training work that you could do when it comes to, like, real-world application.
Like, your ability to, like...
The strength that really comes up in the real world is, like, deadlift strength and squat strength and bench press strength.
That's, like, real-world shit.
But there's a lot of people out there doing curls and tricep extensions.
My truth is the ark of the covenant buried in Ethiopia.
Watch when you fuck away the Minneapolis Somalian.
When I go home, the world I used to know is gone and I will live on my own.
For what shall I profit a rapper with creative control?
To sign a deal with the devil and lose his soul.
My still porn first expression is cold.
Subliminal racial supremacy Choking me quick like the bedtime stories of Joseph Smith Lynch mob gunning for me trying to murder my seeds The shorty put him in the Nile in the basket of reeds And now I stare into the future with a spiritual flashlight Wondering who the fuck was me in a past life Bad diet, fuck raw, die young, fast life Same as a crash flight that took off when the music died on your last night Tell them the truth and they call you a traitor Talk to them honestly That was badass.
The mortis should be illegal instead of the people that were here before the Bible and all of its sequels.
I speak to the detached and unrealistic that were born normal but turned socially autistic.
We resisted Homeland Security's mission because I know what they really envisioned.
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I am the eye in the sky Looking at you I can read your mind I am the maker of rules Dealing with fools I can cheat your mind I am the eye in the sky Looking at you I can read your mind
Big shout out to my brother Salpaw, who's responsible for producing that.
It's off the CD I just gave you, The Martyr.
It's free.
So many other things in this world.
Some people think that nothing's free, but that actually is free.
You can go to ViperRecords.com and you don't have to fill out a stupid survey.
You don't have to sit through a 15-second Vivo commercial.
You press one button and then nine minutes later you have a 16-track album absolutely free by Mortal Technique featuring a lot of hip-hop underground greats and legends.
We got Styles P from the Locks, Vinnie Pez, Poison Pen, Diabolic, Swayne Sever, Kier.
Well, I mean, it was at a time when I saw that people were struggling financially, economically, and I thought to myself, listen, what's more revolutionary as opposed to being an artist that just has stuff ghostwritten for him and then gives it out to people and gets angry when they download your terrible music?
You know, what's more revolutionary than taking hardcore hip-hop from the streets and then music with a message, combining them, giving them to the people absolutely for free.
100%.
Plus, they've been waiting so long on this other album I have called The Middle Passage that if I didn't give them something, I would have probably got killed.
I didn't know the impact of what I did up until like a year or two into it.
I really started to get a grasp of it.
Slowly accepted the responsibility.
And I think there's a big difference in between being an independent artist and being in charge of everything that you have to do in order to be successful and then having, you know, a label babysit you through a 360 deal or something like that.
To some extent, I think that's why they implemented the 360 deal, so they felt like they could eat off the shows as opposed to the dwindling record sales.
And I say to you, Joe, as a company, as a gigantic multinational conglomerate, I got this company about people who get on the internet and meet other people that are similar and they get to post their pictures.
You're looking at me like, oh yeah, alright, well, how much is it going to sell?
I'm giving you numbers.
But let's say I set up something like MySpace, which is obviously now not in its former glory.
But if I say, alright, well, I have this company, MySpace, and it has, I don't know, 20 million people on it signed up.
Look at the advertising potential that we have here.
Then I can sucker somebody like Rupert Murdoch into buying it for $500 million.
And I think it's just the same thing in music.
If you've already built up an independent fan base, if you have something that's completely your own, then you're coming to them with everything.
And you're saying, listen, I don't need to give you more than just this.
I will give you the small percentage, which is usually between 15% and 25%, for just distributing the product, making sure it's in all the stores.
Well, tigers, once they find out that they can kill people, they become a real fucking problem.
They just go exclusively for people.
Yeah, there's a story about this boat in India.
Well, there's an area in India called the Sundarbans, where over the last 100 years, tigers have killed close to...
I think it was 300,000 people.
Something insane.
Oh, yeah.
Insane number.
Insane number over the last 100 years.
It's fucking crazy.
There's an area where the water...
Yeah, there's two problems with the area.
One, the brackish water...
Apparently the tigers drink it and it makes them fucking crazy because it's water that's like salty.
They really shouldn't be drinking and it makes them really incredibly irritated and it makes them super hyper aggressive.
And they've been known to kill people like for sport.
Like there's this one tiger killed these guys on a boat, swam out to the boat, killed a guy, dragged him to the shore, dropped off his body, jumped back in the water and he did it three times.
Yeah, they're not exactly sure, but it's really dangerous, especially for women if they're pregnant.
When women are pregnant, that's why they tell them never fuck with cat litter, don't touch a litter box, because if they get it and they get infected, it can seriously fuck up with the development of the child while it's in the woman's womb.
And what it does is it fucks with the rats and it rewires the rats' immune or sexual reward system and has the rat sexually attracted to the smell of cat piss.
Completely changes the rats' drive and hijacks his whole system.
And makes his dick hard for cat piss.
Literally, his dick swells.
Okay?
So the rat is horny.
I mean, it's the most ruthless shit nature has ever invented.
Right?
So the rat is all horny.
He goes over to the cat.
The cat's like, bitch!
The cat jacks the rat.
Then the cat hangs around with people.
And then people get it from the cat.
And it's been shown to make people extra aggressive.
It's been shown to make them act more impulsively.
I mean, you know what I think is unfair is when I heard the administration, the Republican administration under Bush, the way they lambasted and hammered the French simply because they didn't want to go to Iraq.
And if you think about it, Remember when we had freedom fries?
That was such a fucking joke, dude.
Freedom fries.
Whatever cocksucker came up with that idea.
You know, I hope you die in a car fire.
It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my fucking life.
Because freedom fries should be what you're eating, fucko.
Because without France, there would be no United States of America.
The Middle East was divided a long time ago through a treaty called Sykes-Picot, where the European nations decided that Turkey or the Ottoman Empire was the sick man of Europe, so they cut it up.
Everyone got their little slice.
England got what's now Iraq and Egypt.
France got parts of North Africa, Syria, and Lebanon.
So really, it's not that I'm scared to fight.
No, that's just not my slice, homie.
You take care of your own problems there.
If there's an issue over here where I'm getting money and I have the remnants of the Caract de Chevalier and all this legacy of intervention, because realistically, you look at the Crusades, they were run by Normans, by Frenchmen, by people who were maybe five, six generations away from a man called Roland Viking who invaded and then six generations away from a man called Roland Viking who invaded and then became So you're talking about an individual or a group of people who have been warring and killing from the very start.
I mean, French people, they get away with it because you think of them in wine and poems.
But look at history.
And I'm not denigrating the French.
I'm saying y'all are wild motherfuckers.
Y'all are some very, very violent people.
You've been involved in every sort of chaos and melee since Rome fell.
Well, you know, what's really fascinating, what a lot of people don't know, is most of North America was covered in a mile-high sheet of ice up until about 10,000 years ago.
So when everybody was just balling it up in Europe and having a great time and Partying all throughout the world.
Except for Central America, South America, where you find lots and lots of different peoples.
Mostly they focus on Aztec, Maya, Inca, but there are so many other individuals.
Like when I came back to Latin America, the Olmecs, you look at their shamans, their tradition of religion, their explanation of Of human society, their use of psychotropic drugs.
Yes, they had a completely independent, advanced civilization.
And that's what people aren't aware of.
When you go back many, many thousands of years, what gets really interesting is...
It's really hard to reach other people.
So that was when people were developing very uniquely on their own.
You know, cultures develop very uniquely like in their own little place.
They weren't having like the constant intervention that we have from all over the world.
So if you look at like What the advanced civilization of thousands of years ago in South America, rather, and you look at the Mayan civilization, like, what a fucking fascinating path those guys went down.
I mean, what an amazing path these guys went down thousands and thousands of years ago because no one was fucking with them.
Because this is what they came up with.
What they came up with was incredible fucking stone structures that mirror the cosmos, and they were doing shit that nobody was thinking about in Europe.
Nobody was thinking about the same time.
Nobody was thinking about any of the fucking shit those guys were doing.
When I hear people say, oh, you know, they had so many scientific advancements, the Aztecs, Maya, and Inca, like the...
Aliens must have helped you to do it.
On one level, I think that's pretty interesting.
To even acknowledge for someone to say that there's extraterrestrial life.
But at the same time, my question is this.
Those developments happened over the course of hundreds of years, of thousands of years.
We're looking at American society now that went from being in a fucking horse and buggy 150 years ago to now being on the moon and everybody's got a cell phone the size of a pack of Tic Tacs.
Listen, if the aliens helped anybody, they helped people here in America.
They didn't help us.
You know what I mean?
We developed it over hundreds and I say thousands of years of work and science or whatnot.
Or then they've been helping everybody the whole time.
You know what's really crazy is that these people in South Africa have sharks, the great whites, on some sort of endangered list, so you're not supposed to be killing them.
I mean, I read that, that they're thinking about lifting the ban because another one killed the fucking surfer recently.
Like, apparently they're on some sort of endangered list.
The fact that we do that, though, is a part of nature.
I mean, it is our own human curiosity that leads us to fuck with things and remove things from the food chain and use our infinite wisdom to change the topography of the earth.
But that is also a part of nature, because we are all nature, you know?
Even if people say that, oh, plastic is unnatural, sort of, but no, it's natural.
You know, when I'm 80, I'm gonna look 80 when I'm like 800. Yeah, I think the idea of natural is getting to be silly, and I think we have to look at it as organic and inorganic.
Inorganic still being natural, but created by people.
That's what it is.
Organic being something that occurs without any intervention at all.
But it's natural that people intervene.
That's what they're curious to do.
There's a reason why there's people that are in school that are studying genetic engineering.
Yeah, where it's essentially show how there's a diffusion of responsibility when there's a large group of people acting towards a goal and that essentially the snowflake doesn't realize it's a part of an avalanche.
It just feels like it's a snowflake.
You just feel like you're a person doing your job and meanwhile you've got commerce mixed up somehow or another in science and progress.
And you've got commerce involved, so it's enforcing its own version of these things before we know the exact results of what could happen.
Long-term ingestion, how's it going to affect the other things in the environment, if the parasites that are naturally preying on weed or whatever the fuck it is that they're making.
What happens to them when they're not allowed to breed?
When they're not allowed to eat?
When they're not allowed to feast on these plants that they've naturally had to protect people from?
I think on many levels the That analysis that you brought up, that analogy can then be used for so many other things.
It's not just about somebody's health now, but now commerce is dictating politics.
It becomes the human race.
In other words, companies come into existence not to find out what's the best medicine for people, but what's the cheapest way they can produce something that's going to offset symptoms and then keep them coming back for more.
There's no money in the cure.
There's only money in the temporary solution because if you cure it, then what's the point?
And it's pure greed because there's still an incredible amount of money to be made if they were just in the seed business.
And if they made seeds and then the farmer could use that plant and grow new seeds or get the seeds from it and grow new plants and it could be a natural thing.
You know, you couldn't force people into suicide.
Indian farmers are committing suicide as a result of being forced into using genetically modified foods and crops and being forced into an incredible debt they can't repay.
There's something like every 30 seconds an Indian farmer commits suicide.
And being the largest democracy in the world, you would think that they would have the ability for people to petition to say this is illegal.
But then again, I think the problem with democracy and the problem with having those things is that...
The the commerce that you're talking about is now front and center in terms of everything in terms of Saying I'm gonna sponsor you to be the next candidate or the next president or the next congressman from But you're fucking with life so much when you make something that won't even reproduce You're fucking with life so much.
I just don't think you should be allowed to do that I think that's where it gets really tricky when you're fucking with life solely for commerce like your idea of Of what it should and shouldn't do.
Like you're not allowing the cycle of life to continue in a natural fashion.
You're making like suicide plants.
That's a fascinating thing when we let people do that.
It's like, look, you're getting a car, a car that does what?
That puts gas in the air?
That pollutes the environment?
That makes us required to be in a partnership with some of the most totalitarian states that exist?
In the world, practically, that we turn a blind eye to.
Now, we'll focus on those that don't give us access to their natural resources, don't have bases in their countries.
But the ones that don't, those that say, okay, well, now we want to interfere.
Now we want a piece of the pie.
Now this is commerce talking.
This is no longer money.
And I think that that should be something that at some point we have to accept as a country.
And then I think it would be tough for the soldiers to look at that saying, yes, on one hand, it can be said that I'm here to be able to confront, you know, a state that sponsors terrorism.
It's a good line.
But at the same time, what if all of those soldiers were told at the same time, listen, you're also here because the American economy and in order to fund this lifestyle that we live, It requires you to secure a government that by our standards has horrific human rights abuses, by our standards of the same standards and litmus tests we use to criticize these other places, has terrible human rights offenses.
But we need their resources.
We need them to be a part of us.
We need to support this lifestyle.
It's like if we got divorced from reality and all of a sudden, hey, look, bitch, you can't live like you used to live.
You're going to have to accept not going to the spa every other day.
You're only going to be able to go once a month.
Like, no, that's a terrible idea.
Kill them all.
Let's take what we have from them.
And I think that that metaphor applies not just to that, but everything now.
Everything's about money.
It's not about what's good for you.
Very rarely do you find someone who says, oh yeah, I'm just doing this because I'm trying to find what the best thing is for people.
No.
How can I make this into a money-making opportunity even though it fucks up the entire point and the perspective of what I was trying to do in the first place?
Yeah, there's got to be a way to reach a happy middle ground, man.
You know, just people have to just not be cunts.
That's really what it is.
Think about what you're doing, for real.
Think about what you're doing and say, am I being a cunt?
Like, look at it realistically.
And if you're being a cunt, stop it.
It's really that simple.
And if you've got some fucking crazy-ass business...
Where you're robbing people of their natural resources and going in there with tanks and killing who knows how many fucking civilians and somehow or another you've passed it off as helping someone's freedom or supporting freedom or making sure we're free.
The individuals that were in charge of designing a war, you know, look at people as statistics and not real individual people because they're not going through it.
You know, they're more than happy to let somebody else's child do it.
But when you look at them, it's like even the people that make this genetically modified food, you know, I would believe a little bit more if I seen your kids drinking that milk.
But I know that they're not.
Or the individuals that will say, oh yeah, you know, like I remember there was some story about a girl in the Bush administration.
I didn't really have a physical thing where it was so difficult to do that I realized the only way to get good at it is just intense hard work and focus.
Everything else in my life, I was like 15 when I finally got into martial arts.
I seriously got into it.
But everything else in my life, whether it was getting into art or playing other sports, there was no consequences.
It's like, so what if your picture didn't look that good?
So what if you dropped the ball?
You didn't get your ass kicked.
Once it was someone who beats your ass, once it was like, oh, this is the top of the foot, it's either this or kill you.
It's either this or kill you.
It's either beat your ass or kill you.
And guess what?
If someone can beat your ass, they can kill you.
They can kill you with their fucking hands.
If a guy gets your back and he chokes you and you tap...
You're essentially admitting that he could have killed you.
If this was a life or death struggle, he would have kept the choke on, you would have been a dead person.
It was someone who had experience teaching young children and had taught his son from a very young age.
So it was more like it was a controlled place and it was more like if in the middle of the fight we did something wrong, we got punished for it because he said, you know better.
We trained on that for weeks, you know what I mean?
You know what to do at that particular time and now you're just being lazy because you know it hurts to do that block that way or it hurts to get down low and then get back up, you know what I mean?
Well, what people don't have to experience in life is that realization, you know, this pain, the bad thing that has happened to you, only happened to you because you didn't put in the work, only happened to you because you weren't focused enough, only happened to you because you did something that you shouldn't have done.
And you have no choice but to learn what the fuck that was and make sure that doesn't happen again.
But, I mean, at the same time, Joe, this is not to excuse my actions in any way, shape, or form.
I take responsibility for them.
But New York was a very different city.
Like, if you grew up in New York in the late 80s, early 90s, you had to have some kind of physical confrontation or somebody was going to treat you like a victim.
Like, if somebody wanted your hat, it was like, nah, homie, you can't have this hat because you ain't pay for it.
I'm saying when you're in that place, in that situation, and there's like eight people talking reckless, they'd be like, listen, homie, if you're a real man, why don't we just shoot the five right now?
How the fuck does this world evolve if we're still involved in all the wars and all the craziness?
How the fuck do we get past this?
The more I look at...
The life that we see on TV every day and the tragedies that we see in the news and the horrific things that are going on all over the world, the more I go, there's gotta be a way that collectively we can figure out how to stop most of this shit.
Most of this shit that I'm looking at is people doing shit to other people.
We collectively stop that.
It's almost like because we're not dealing with UFOs or asteroids or anything nutty outside of the earth, All of our conflicts are being caused by people doing cunty shit to other people.
Like literally the whole world's problem is the whole world.
The people in the world's problem is the people.
It seems like that should be the easiest thing to solve.
That should be the easiest thing to figure out how to get past.
It's like, we're like the crazy person that never learns from their crazy actions.
Just keeps doing the same stupid shit over and over and over again.
What's interesting is that when things get created, say something spectacular or something destructive, the people that are creating that thing, then that technology gets put into the hands of people that did not create it.
They just have it now.
And that is always a problem.
When someone wields something of incredible power and they didn't even create it, you know, you just got it from...
So do you understand the whole process behind it?
If you are the type of person that can create that, are you the type of person that would be willing to unleash it on people?
I think you'd be more willing to unleash it if you bought it.
You know, if you got it from somebody else.
It's just...
We have the ability to do shit that we don't have the moral evolution to cope with.
We have the ability to wipe out like giant sections of the world in like real quick blasts and we somehow or another feel like you know because we do it a little bit more precisely like in Iraq like that's a little bit more precisely you send actual troops in there instead of just dusting the whole area it's still a massive amount of Casualty.
And the sad part is the people who catch the blame are always the people on the bottom, the enlisted men.
Even in Abu Ghraib, when I saw that, I was like, oh, okay, watch.
All the soldiers are going to get some kind of shit to them, but the people, the commanders, the officers in charge, the people who decided the policy at DOD, the individuals who were at the administration who said, yeah, this is fine, do what you need to do to get this.
Those people that gave free range, they always escape.
They always seem to have their little exit in the back door, while the individuals who actually did it And yet bear no responsibility for being told to do it or being told this is what we're going to do or this is in the middle.
I'm not gonna say that that isn't part of what happened, but I believe in all of these situations that there was some kind of culture within the society that says, You know what?
If you get caught doing this, you're gonna do the time for this as opposed to whoever is on the top for it.
The only way you would have a stranger that's your enemy is if we were in a place where you couldn't communicate.
We're not in that place anymore.
We're in a totally different world.
This isn't the world of 10,000 years ago when we show up in a fucking wooden boat and we hit the beach and there's a dude shooting arrows at us and we've got to kick some ass.
This is a totally different world we're living in now.
I would like to think that we've evolved a little bit, or a larger percentage of us have evolved a little bit because of the internet.
Because of people's abilities to express themselves in a way that, you know, Monsanto didn't really have to hear from the regular people in the 1960s when they were making Agent Orange.
They didn't have to, you know, there was protests in the news, and if there's not a bunch of people carrying signs, you're not getting anything from the people, you know what I mean?
It's not like today when people on Twitter would go fucking crazy and any big story that happens, any big corruption story.
Well, by the way, today, Chick-fil-A. Roseanne Barr went off on Chick-fil-A because the governor of Massachusetts, God bless his soul, was talking about how Chick-fil-A is not welcome in Boston because Chick-fil-A has this product.
It was something to do with their idea.
They have a very religious company, apparently, and it has something to do with their ideas.
Chick-fil-A. Yeah, they won't even serve on Sunday.
Part of this big, super-packed donors that say, we're going to give money to try and effect this legislation.
Then it becomes different.
Then your opinion is not your opinion.
Then you're starting to use your money that you get from all of the things that you have to bolster this opinion and make people believe that your opinion is a fact rather than just your fucking opinion.
You know, I don't want to say anything bad about those poor fucking people, but someone apparently had the idea that they could make some money, it looks like.
They're suing them for promoting violence, which is ridiculous, because this was the third movie in a Batman trilogy.
I mean, you knew exactly what it is.
The fucking whole movie is about a crime fighter.
And they were saying also that because of the movie, the guy came in in the costume, they thought he was a part of the movie.
Well, I think when you get to a situation like that, there's too many cameras on you.
You know, the reason why they didn't kill that guy, well, they might have killed that guy back in the day, Was that there's too many people with cameras on you, and you can get sued for that.
You can get sued.
If somebody has a cell phone camera and you don't know about it, you can't just murder the guy right there.
You're fucked.
Because if you do that, they'll put you in jail for murder.
I don't know, but a taser is a fucking device with a trigger.
And if you're an idiot...
If you're a fucking idiot and you're freaking out because you're in the middle of a physical confrontation with someone, and you accidentally pull out your gun instead of your taser, I mean, I can't think that he thought it would be okay to shoot that guy like that.
That doesn't even make any sense.
It seemed more like a fucking moron move.
Because the guy was already lying down on the ground.
He was resisting.
You wouldn't shoot him once you already have him down on the ground.
Well, if that's the case, he's a psychopath Because it didn't make any sense that he shot him It made sense though Didn't he dye his hair like the nigga who killed You mean the new Okay, we're talking about two separate things now No, no, no, he did dye his hair too The new guy The cop dyed his hair?
The guy, the kid, Oscar Grant, I mean, I can't even imagine how many more people ended up like him within that era where there was, like you said, no cameras.
When there was no one back in the day.
You know, how many people have been the victim of that?
But my question is, the police that break the law...
Should they be held more accountable because they know the law that much better?
I don't think it ever...
Or should you get time minimized?
For example, there's a case in New York where a guy, he got like a year of probation or something, or one year in jail or something, because he killed a guy while he was drunk driving.
And his family is apparently connected with the NYPD. This is my question though.
If you're a cop, shouldn't you be held accountable to the law even more so?
Because you knew it was wrong to be drunk and driving.
You arrested people probably a hundred times for doing the same thing.
In other words, if you get caught for murder, And then you're off all of a sudden in five years, that's only because you knew the law better and then you still broke it?
Like I said, I don't think that you can make people more responsible and you're going to change anything.
You might make people feel better because you're punishing them more, but I don't think you're necessarily going to change behavior by offering a bigger consequence.
I think the only way to change behavior is to change thinking.
What I try to tell people is, and it sounds ridiculous, but this is something that came to me on a boat once, is that you've got to treat everybody as if it's you living another life.
We could all do that.
We could all do that.
If we could all picture any person, regardless of what the fuck they're going through in your life, think about what it would be like to live that person's life from birth to death with their situation, their economic situation, their biological situation, their Their life experiences.
Would you be any different than that person?
If you were that man, if you were that woman, would you be any different?
Are you them?
You know, if that person was born you, would they be you?
And are we all the same like that?
And is that what life really is all about?
Is figuring out that each one of us is exactly the same.
We're just living through a different biological circumstance.
And the more you can treat Everyone you meet, like they're you living another life, the happier you'll be.
And that's the only way we're ever going to sort this thing out.
Everyone has to do things based on that ideal.
Whether it's business or personal shit, whatever you do, you always have to think that this person that you're dealing with is you living another life.
And you can't let them boss you around, can't let them talk shit to you, can't let them fuck up your life.
You know, you do your best to keep them on track, but your ethic and your resolve and your intent should always be to treat them as if it was you living a whole other life.
And it's amazing that this guy did it with no chemotherapy.
He did it with holistic medicine, meaning vitamins and food, and not meaning anything crazy like sucking on crystals and making all the noises.
Holistic, meaning treating the body as a whole, giving it nutrients.
Giving, you know, he does what I do every morning.
He has a kale shake, you know, which is a lot of people have been doing this, and if you're down for health and vitality, man, there's very few things in life better than a really fucking thick, heavy, nutrient-dense vegetable shake in the morning, and it does not taste good.
I'm not gonna fucking lie to you.
I chew this shit down every day.
And every day I think about finding a way to pussy out of this.
Like, oh man, just have some bacon and eggs.
Fuck this.
But I don't.
I drink this goddamn awful concoction.
I was feeling like a little bit sick when I came back from Canada the other day.
A lot of traveling and shit.
I drank this shit one day.
By the end of the day, I felt great.
That's never happened.
Every time I get a cold, by the end of the day, I'm ready to go to sleep.
I'm fighting this off.
I gotta take a...
A hot bath the next day.
You know, it takes like a day to fight off a cold.
By the end of the day, it was done.
Because I'm eating nutrient-dense shit, bitches.
Okay?
I go crazy with it.
My latest thing, I add coconut oil to it.
Because Rob Wolf, who will be on tomorrow, the author of The Paleo Diet, said that in order for you to get maximum absorption of the vitamins from plants, you should have them with some fat.
The way the human body works, you should have a little bit of fat.
So I started adding coconut oil to that shit, son!
And coconut oil has been known to help people who have Alzheimer's disease.
There's some sort of a connection between Alzheimer's disease and diabetes.
That it's almost like a sort of a cousin of diabetes for the brain or something like that.
And they're having positive results giving Alzheimer's patients coconut oil.
Coconut is a wonderful fucking plant.
What an amazing resource coconuts are.
It tastes delicious.
You can eat the meat of it.
You drink it.
There's oil in it.
It's great for you.
You can't think anything better for rehydrating than coconut milk.
Yeah, but what I don't understand is how they can just do that, because a lot of these people are families, and this is their family business now, and they've invested so much time and money, and they were allowed to.
dude I don't live in LA it takes it takes the violence out of it we're taking the violence out of the drug trade by doing that you're taking the creepy people out we're taking we're putting tax on something you're making money so it's an American pastime half the founding fathers were high they were probably high when they were writing the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution Yeah, I hope they were.
I have a lot of support on the East Coast because that's where I'm from, but this is probably one of the places in LA where I could do a bigger show than I could in New York.
I think it's just because New York is like 10 cities put together and LA is like 20 cities put together.
A lot of it, yeah, but I think in the very beginning it had to do with me going to specific places and not just playing the big towns, but playing all the small places around it.
I learned this business from not only from people who were involved in it, but also like in terms of performers, but I also learned a business from a lot of We had to kill Biggie for a reason.
And these are friends of the family, so it's not like they're sitting here playing a game with me.
They're just being very honest.
They're like, look, in the 1930s and 40s...
People who are African American didn't have the opportunity to petition in court.
I mean, you didn't even have civil rights.
So when you're dealing with people who are trying to rob you and jerk you in terms of these promoters, they needed some muscle for their hustle.
So it's different for them to be like, hey man, can I have my money please?
Or it like...
You owe Louis Armstrong like $60,000 and you're gonna give me and Avi over here an extra 10 for coming down here and having to fuck you up or you're not gonna have any legs in a little while.
Getting money from individuals, shaking people down, getting every last dollar that they could.
That's why the business is run like a hustle.
It's run on some gangster shit.
If you look at the contract, for example, the one that used to be prevalent rather than the 360 deal, you have a point system where you're basically given 10, 15 points, which technically means you get 10 cents off of every dollar that comes in.
So I think to me it wasn't just that, but they also told me, listen, if you want to survive and have longevity in this game, then do it the old school rock and roll way.
Forget this mixtape craze that was hitting during the mid-2000s.
They said what you need to do is tour, tour, tour, tour, non-stop, go everywhere, never turn down a show.
I think every rapper has an emergency line, but back in the day it really was really, really like very spontaneous.
It was off the top of the head.
As they refer to it, freestyling off the top of the head.
I think and then I think at some point nowadays all the battle rap that we see now Joe is all very much choreographed like in other words you and I it's it's run more the way the UFC would be where you and I know our opponent months ahead of time we train for his style I see you and I say you know what his style is to find angles and personal lines about people I know what his weaknesses are I need to find it whereas back in the day you would come in a room and the The wall would just be wall-to-wall MCs,
and they would call two people to come in the middle that didn't even know each other.
And then, like you said before, you were at war with a stranger.
I think, to me, battling is something that refined, and the way that I did rap, and just to clarify, there's a big difference between the way it was and the way it is now, Joe.
The way it was was that the winner got to come back and perform at the next one.
The first time was against the other opponents, and the other one was against the crowd.
And nowadays, what's been taken out of it, Joe, is that advancement of somebody's career.
That work that puts in that says, you know what, not only did you come here and prove yourself in terms of your insulting ability, But now, I have to see, can you really write songs?
Is all you can do battle?
Because if that's all you can do, then step to the left, motherfucker.
So someone that really has an opportunity to shine and worked on music can be in this position and show that to the crowd.
I mean, I threw a personal battle, which there were two winners.
There was a guy called Nestle and A-Class.
Big shout out to them.
And what their battle was was for the opportunity, and they're going to have it now, to open up for a short tour that I'm going to do, like a spot day tour for the Middle Passage.
So in that respect, yeah, they have to win a battle against one another, and then the prize is I have to now prove myself in front of this audience.
I have to show them my work, and I have to show them that I'm more than just a battle rapper.
That's the biggest battle for me for any battle rapper to win.
I think that analogy is pretty on spot because if you're not battling somebody, there's nobody in front of you.
You gotta be able to make it up on your own.
It's like, what if you're that comedian that doesn't have that one person in the crowd that came with a stupid hat?
And you can't make fun of nobody no more.
Now you have to come up with something original, an idea that's all your own, that you own, that you put down, which is technically what you do when you make a song.
What they do is they fake that they're talking to the crowd.
They are talking to the crowd, but they have like, you know, this guy says he's a fireman.
I got some go-to shit for that.
You know, if you're from Chicago, I know what to say there.
You know, they have like a bunch of shit that they can go to.
They're just like plugging it into the audience.
And because it seems so spontaneous, it actually seems funnier.
It's like a little trick.
It's good to fuck around with the crowd sometimes.
I actually don't mind a little bit of it every now and then.
But there's a big difference between the kind of work that's involved in just ad-libbing on the fly and actually writing some shit and making it a bit.
Some people can't do both.
They can't make that transition.
So that's like, I guess, like a battle rapper who can't be a real rapper.
But there are people in battle rap, and there are people in rap period, who have plenty of ghostwriters as well.
And I'm wondering, does that take away from...
But that's the interesting thing.
To you it doesn't, because in the culture of comedy, where you have somebody like a Paul Mooney who wrote for Richard Pryor, where you have somebody like maybe a Jeff Ross who now writes for this person, that's seen as, okay, that's acceptable, that's great.
And then when you do it, it's cool because if somebody gives you a tagline and then you do it, it's like a shout out to your friend every time you're on stage.
It's kind of cool.
I don't even remember the bit, but somebody gave me a great tagline once.
And I would always think about them every time I'd say it.
They're like, it's my friend.
Hook my bit up with a little extra punch.
A little extra thing.
That's a thing that comics would do for each other.
I think it's more like, for example, if you're signed to a major and you wrote a song and they like it, they can take your song since they own your intellectual property and you're signed to them and they can give it to someone else.
Being like, oh yeah, you wrote this song for you, for like JR, whatever, and we're going to give it to this rapper.
My Twitter is so strange to me because I'm finding out more shit through my Twitter, through people sending me things about the latest discoveries, about Egyptian boats that they found from, you know, oh, they believe they found Atlantis and there's a new discovery.
Gorillas have figured out how to, you know, stop traps and And disarm traps.
It's like a constant barrage of insane shit and information you're getting from people all day long.
This is so new to humanity.
We're not even sure the effects this is going to have on human beings just in the next 10 or 20 years.
What people are going to be like with this incredible access to information.
Access to information or, you know, you don't send letters no more.
You send an email, you know what I mean?
You don't call nobody no more.
You Skype with them, you know what I mean?
In some ways, there's benefits to that.
It creates the ability to communicate with people.
But what kind of communication?
Because I've known individuals to severely misconstrue a text or an email before that they can't get from a person.
Like, I look at you, there's something about the way you stand that tells me what your intentions are, the way you move in.
I think even in race relations this works because people who have been exposed to different races or different cultures of people, they look and see, okay, someone's rolling up walking down the street.
He's not a criminal.
He looks like this motherfucker's lost.
I would be like, yo, man.
You know, the highways around the corner, as opposed to being like, oh, because they're from here, they're probably planning this or that, rather than looking at their actual actions or stance.
Like, in terms of a regular conversation, your tone of voice, you know what I mean?
The point being, Joe, is to a lot of people in the business community and to the model of business, we're a failure now.
We're downsizing.
We're not going up from 12.5 billion to 13. Now we're back to 11. People are like, oh, this business is on the decline.
We just made 11 billion dollars!
That's just how they think, you know what I mean?
If you're not always expanding, if you're not buying new people, if you're not buying new resources, if you haven't obtained a good rapport with a government that makes, you know, labor laws very, very simple for you to deal with, then you're a failure.
And I think that's what needs to change too, in order for people to see themselves and other individuals.
Yeah, there's gonna be some karma-free ways to do things, you know?
And I've always said, like, we need to figure out a karma-free iPhone.
When you find out what's really involved in getting the minerals to make iPhones, you're like, well, this is fucked up.
There may very well be some children in the Congo who are scraping the mountains for minerals that goes into your iPhone.
Like, there's gotta be a way around that.
Is there a way around that?
How much would you be willing to pay for an iPhone that's not manufactured?
I mean, these places where they have nets set up in between buildings because so many fucking employees have committed suicide.
They've actually done this.
And people say, well, actually, the amount of people that commit suicide in these places, it's very similar to the amount of people that commit suicide in real life.
Well, you know what the difference is?
That's not real life.
That's their job.
How many fucking people commit suicide at work?
We want to talk about despair.
They're living in crazy dormitories and they're jumping off the roof into concrete to end it.
The only thing that can rectify it is information.
People have to change.
You have to change who the fuck you are.
If you're a person that's part of the problem and you're aware that you're part of the problem, you've got to find a path away from that.
The real problem is you get addicted to life.
You get caught up in a system where you have a mortgage, and you have car payments, and you have credit card bills, and you have the, you know, this is for gas, this is for food, this is for...
And you have these numbers that you have to achieve on a regular basis.
So there's almost no way you can detach yourself from the system and then start off in some new path.
It's like you need constant income.
If you have a family, you need constant income.
If you have a mortgage, you need constant income.
And that's how most of us are stuck.
Most of us are stuck because we sort of got on some sort of a path and then we became involved in the system due to financial necessity.
It's like, no, I mean, you're not going to go homeless.
You're not going to have your fucking kids be poor just because you have a dream of trying to make it as an author.
You're going to have to find a way to do both of them at the same time.
You're going to have to find a way to work around it.
You can't just detach yourself from the system.
That's why so many people have a hard time changing.
Yeah, that's why so many people have a hard time changing, is they don't have the time for reflection.
And when people are caught up in any sort of fanatical pursuit, especially financial fanatical pursuit, It becomes about ones and zeros.
It becomes about numbers.
It becomes about adding zeros to the ledger.
It doesn't become about your own personal growth and you as a human being trying to find yourself in a better place in this world.
It doesn't become about that.
That's the real issue.
The real issue is the numbers trick you into thinking that they're real.
Instead of thinking that...
Because they are real.
You can get things from them.
Real things like a house that you can knock on.
You can get a car.
You can knock on that car.
It's a real car.
So there is something real that you get from it.
But essentially, we've decided that you can get those things for money.
We've decided that.
We've all decided that.
And because it's broken down to a number thing, then that becomes the grand pursuit.
The grand pursuit becomes this crazy idea that you need to...
Stockpile numbers at the expense of humanity.
And that humanity shouldn't be put at the very forefront of any of the decisions.
So all of this could have been avoided.
Everything could have been avoided if any company realized that humanity has to be first.
So if you're poisoning rivers, if you're fucking people out of land, you cannot operate like that.
There must be a humane way to progress and do business.
If it only involves littering, and it only involves polluting, and it only involves murder, well then that's ridiculous.
This shouldn't be a task that's taken forth by people.
But because of the fact that you can get ones and zeros from those things, the ones and zeros have tricked us into thinking that they are the end-all be-all.
By providing us with real things that come from the ones and zeros, they have sort of figured out a way to hijack our system.
But we have to realize that solid things don't mean shit if you don't have your humanity.
So it's not about ones and zeros.
It's about humanity first.
Then it's about should humanity engage in this pursuit?
Should humanity, you know, drill oil off the coast when it can fuck up like that and ruin millions of square miles of ocean?
I think at that particular time, what we fail to see and we fail to realize is that Look, all of the documentation that they had was lost in countless amount of wars.
Because if you just dig down like that, you could fuck it up.
You could fuck up the site.
When they do that, you're supposed to do it microscopically.
This thing that they're doing in Turkey, this Gobekli Tepe, this is one of the oldest known structures that's It's at least 13,000 years old and it was built by people who they thought were like, at the time they were hunter and gatherers.
It throws a big monkey wrench into that because there's these huge stone columns and nine foot tall stone columns with exotic animals carved into them.
Sort of, Brian, but you gotta understand, when they did find them, when they initially found them, they were so shocked, they were so big in the first place, they couldn't figure out how people made them.
See, for me, that's where the isolation tank comes in.
You know, I use a sensory deprivation tank.
It's like a tank you lie in with water.
When I'm in that thing, it's quiet.
I'm not seeing anything.
I'm not feeling anything.
I'm just floating in that water.
When you're doing that, you're forced to think about yourself.
You're forced to analyze your behavior.
It's like there's nothing else there to distract you.
There's no TV to watch to flood your brain with useless shit.
There's no email to check.
There's no Twitter to check.
There's no wall to stare at and look at a painting.
You're forced to be alone with your thoughts, so you're forced to analyze your life.
And it makes me think that there's not a lot of time in life to ever achieve that sort of same state, the state of self-analysis.
There's not a lot of time to do that.
And if you're not analyzing, then a lot of the fucking you're doing is just running around with slippery shoes on.
You're not getting anywhere.
You're fucking this thing up.
You're not looking at it.
You're learning a little bit here and there, but not as much as you could be if you just really spent a certain amount of required time to just analyze your shit.
And that's, again, what people don't do.
So that and don't be a cunt are the two best pieces of advice that a human being could ever get, and yet those are also two pieces of advice they never give you.
That's really the simplest thing.
That's the only way we're going to fix this world.
We're not going to fix this world, I don't think, through some new technology or through some actual genetic evolution.
I think we're going to fix this world through a behavioral revolution, and that revolution is we're going to have to start looking at each other differently.
The other way the world can change, and since we are in 2012, I'd be remiss from bringing it up.
People are saying now that there'll be some kind of cataclysm at some point, some cataclysmic event.
I think, even though I don't necessarily agree that that's definitely going to happen, I always say that I can subscribe to the possibility of something like that happening.
Just the point that if something terrible did happen, Isn't that the time when everybody seems to come together?
Yeah, 9-11.
And if that terrible thing was permanent and it wasn't something we could just push to the back of our memory and say, hey, I don't want to get in the isolation tank and deal with the fact that, yes, we did sponsor a jihad against the Russians, and when someone was blowing things up, there's some mom in Russia right now who cried over her dead son back in the 70s and 80s, and her pain is no different than any American mother that's suffering because their son died in Iraq.
At some point, if we don't put ourselves in that isolation tank and say, you know, we can't escape this.
This is something permanent that has affected our world.
Listen, people like him are in a position that they're in because they convince other individuals that they're moral leaders.
Look, this is my only thing in terms of Republicans and Democrats when we have this debate and we discuss it.
They're both...
both have to pander to corporations.
However, in my experience, I've met a lot more conservative people that try to play pious and like, "Oh, that's so horrible," as opposed to saying, "Yeah, we're all part of this." As opposed to just being who you want to be, instead you lie about who you want to be, and then you're trying to pick men up in an airport bathroom, or you're secretly selling arms to enemies, or you're doing...
At least just be who you are.
But at some point, you couldn't be in that position you are unless you didn't convince people that you're a good Christian, you know what I mean?
That you're a humble person, that you care about other people, when in reality, you're probably not any of these things.
And you got into politics because it's a good fucking payday.
Especially in the modern age and I would say more so after the Reagan era because one of the first presidents to really bring out evangelical voters was actually Jimmy Carter and not any Republican.
Again, down south, very Christian, humanitarian, played that up, very much so, man of the people.
But at some particular point, if we're...
I always thought about it this way.
If religion is the selling point, then let's sit in that tank where we move everything apart and we think about humanity as a whole.
In Egypt, 3500 years ago, people worshipped deities like Anubis, Osiris, an anthropomorphic figure with the body of a human being and the head of a jackal.
Everything that was real back then, that's real to them now.
Or that's fake then, that's fake now.
But my thing is this.
If we look at it from that perspective now as Americans, like, oh, that's so ridiculous.
Somebody's worshipping a statue like that with it.
Well, that's 3,500 years from now.
If humanity makes it 3,500 years from today and they look back at this time, I know exactly what they'll say.
They'll say just as we said about those people, look at these ridiculous, pathetic human beings that lived at this time.
They worshipped a dead guy nailed to a piece of wood and they couldn't understand the most basic thing he was trying to tell people which is treat others the way you want to be treated.
That's the most dangerous part I think about anything because you should be able to say, hey man, if one of these things is illogical, then all of them have to be illogical.
If you're telling me, oh, it's impossible for Jesus to have resurrected, okay, but it's possible for a man to divide the ocean.
For someone that the Prophet Muhammad, peace be on him, ascends into heaven, that's the same thing to me or is the same impossibility.
But I think that when you look at people's lives who live in poverty, the reason that that's so...
That's so prevalent there is because their lives are so ridiculous, because their lives are so insane that I couldn't understand.
That's just as outlandish to me as walking on water, the idea that, you know what, I'm going to have to drink my own piss today, or I'm not going to fucking be hydrated, or I have to go for three days without food, or I have to cut pieces of my flesh out.
I'll give you a personal example rather than using a hypothetical.
My grandmother, whose house I just left, like I was telling you before, I took her to Vons.
I always show grandma love.
I care about her a lot.
She raised 10 kids.
You know what I mean?
And God bless her soul.
My grandfather, God rest her soul, was a good man in his later years, but he fucked up a lot of things in his first years.
So he wasn't around a lot.
And I always think to myself, like, there's something about the idea that grandma had that somewhere in the sky, That a guy named Jesus, you know what I mean?
With a mullet and the cut, you know what I mean?
And the blue eyes was out there watching her and she depended on that idea.
I'm not trying to steal that love and compassion from anybody.
I'm not trying to take any religion away from people at all.
I just tell them all the time that unless your religion makes you a better person, unless it makes you less judgmental over people's lives, if it makes you more generous, if it makes you look at people and say, hey, just like you said, you know what?
What if I was that person?
What if I grew up like that?
Then it's ennobled you.
But if it makes you more pretentious, if it makes you more of an asshole, if it makes you say, I just have the real truth and everyone who doesn't believe in what I believe in is going to hell, then your religion has failed you as much as you failed that religion.
But even Latin and Greek, for example, those ancient languages like a Hebrew, Arabic, Latin, Greek, there are words that mean several different things.
And I think it's just a testament to how basic our form of communication is that in...
Rap and lyricism, I have to create wordplay, double entendres, things that have double meanings, this that really means this.
No, but you know, I read an interesting account of ancient Greece and Byzantium at the time, and it was said that even the emperor Justinian, they were different groups the way we have red republicans, blue democrats.
They had the greens and blues back then that argued for different political factions.
And it said within several of these books that I read that even the emperor and other people participated in some of these debates where it had to be at a certain tone.
It had to be at a certain tempo So essentially their political...
Politically battle-rapping one another at some point.
And anyway, when they talked about that one class, the graduating class of the Miami Police Academy, where everyone who graduated either wound up murdered or in jail for corruption.
One of my one of my one of my friend's fathers said that at a particular time, the cops came in, raided what he had and said, you know what, we're going to give you we're taking the money, but we're going to leave the stash and we're going to make sure nobody fucks with you.
And we're going to give you extra stash here.
We got some more smack for you, press up, do whatever you want, and then we'll come back and we'll take a percentage and you can have your whatever the fuck cut.
He said this went on for a couple of months and he was like, yo, you know what, finally I'm out of this.
He said he don't even know what happened to his friend that was into it with 5-0.
Yeah, but the problem with people being equal is free will and activity and the environment.
I mean, it's like you would have to do a lot to make people equal.
And it wouldn't involve just the people who are poor.
It would involve everybody.
And it's...
It's the process of thousands of years of human behavior.
It's not a simple process.
There's people that are always going to be lazy cunts.
And I don't know how you fix that.
But when you give people...
This is the reality of a welfare state.
The reality of a welfare state is, as a community, we should always be willing to help our brothers and sisters and help people who have experienced circumstances beyond their control and have a community stand up for each other.
I know people who their house is burned down and their folks next door let them move into the basement with their whole family until they rebuilt their house up again.
That kind of stuff is fucking beautiful.
I love hearing shit like that.
That's human beings helping other human beings.
But there's a difference between that and then giving people something when they're poor and they don't have to do anything for it.
There's a real problem with human beings.
And when you get people used to money for nothing, they get lazy as fuck.
They have no reason to do anything.
It's just natural human behavior.
It feeds into some baby shit that you...
And so these people, without developing a character, without developing...
And having everyone around them living the same way, so they're imitating their atmosphere, and then having the situation where it seems like there's no way out of it.
So it becomes a point of despair, a point of acceptance, and this laziness becomes a part of culture.
Real capitalism involves other people that have competition.
When we go to a country and we engage in a kleptocracy to take over things, that's not real capitalism.
They don't have their own little African diamond company that competes with De Beers and the rest of them.
What they have is a monopoly.
They might have the semblance of what capitalism is within the confines of certain sectors of the United States, but outside of this country, real capitalism doesn't exist that way.
Our relationship with England and that capitalist relationship is the difference from It's very different from our relationship with, let's say, Colombia and that relationship with capitalism where we say, we're going to prop up a state by, it doesn't matter what the human rights violations are, we're just going to prop you motherfuckers up and you're going to get us what we want, which is control of the particular region.
You have the Atlantic and you have the Pacific, your neighboring countries.
It comes down to the same goddamn thing every way you go.
You could wrap it up in capitalism or economic gain or call it whatever the fuck you want to call it.
The real problem is doing things at the expense of other people, fucking people up.
It's not whether or not people are rich and it's not The problem with you're not going to have any equality until everybody is equal.
No one's ever equal in this fucking world.
No one's going to be equal.
Someone's going to be smarter.
They're going to be faster.
They're going to have a bigger dick.
There's no equal.
You got your fucking roll of the dice.
Now you need to make hay, motherfucker.
And that's what's missing in a welfare state.
And the problem with the idea that everybody has to be equal.
No, you have to work harder to be equal.
But you have to also have an even playing field, which we don't even have that.
Right.
So it's not even that people are impoverished and there's a direct path.
No, it's that people are impoverished and there's no training, there's no education, there's no protection from their environment, the violence that comes with a poor environment.
See, that's just because that system's in control.
It's been hijacked.
You can make money from...
Look, if you have big money for defense contractors in Iraq and rebuilding companies like Halliburton that come in and build shit back up after we blow it the fuck apart, Well, then you could also have big contracts to shape up ghettos.
Have the same kind of money involved in putting forth some sort of an effort to fulfill the potential of young human beings.
To take young human beings in any sort of impoverished area where they don't have a whole lot to look forward to, they don't have a whole lot of options, and provide those.
I've always said, you want to strengthen the country...
Make less losers, okay?
You want less people robbing people, less people in jail, more people producing.
The only way to do that is to take care of the most important resource we have, and that's young people.
That's babies.
That's children.
And where's the life becoming the most fucked up?
Where is it?
Well, in the most impoverished areas.
It's the most difficult.
It's harder to get away from the crime and the gangs.
Well, we need to correct that.
No politician has ever lifted a fucking finger for that.
Because they can't make money.
We have to figure out a way to make money and fixing things up.
We have to figure out a way where Halliburton gets on mushrooms and they go, we're going to rebuild ghettos instead of going over to fucking Iraq and blowing shit up and then rebuilding it back.