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May 8, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #213 - Eddie Bravo
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eddie bravo
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joe rogan
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eddie bravo
I actually used it the other day.
Remember, I took two from you?
joe rogan
Yes.
eddie bravo
I took two, and I used one like maybe two weeks ago.
And I took two because I knew I didn't want to wash it.
So I used it and threw it away.
joe rogan
It was cool.
That's it?
You just one hit it and quit it?
eddie bravo
That's it.
joe rogan
No need to save it.
Well, you can always get a new one from anybody.
Anytime you want.
eddie bravo
Yeah, dude.
That would be cool.
You know, whenever the missus is out with the friends or with the family in Bakersfield.
You know what I mean?
It's perfect.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a very underappreciated product.
eddie bravo
Women that are afraid that their husbands are cheating and all that shit, they should be giving their husbands these fucking flesh lights.
Come on.
Can you imagine the amount, the percentage of cheating that it would cut out instantly?
joe rogan
Cut out a lot of it, but I think a lot of cheating is psychological too.
eddie bravo
But I think overall, generally, if you had a wife that was, you know, of course she's not going to let you cheat, but she was giving you like every week, it was part of the groceries and shit.
She brought you butter, tortillas, fucking cup of fleshlights.
You're like, I wanted six.
You only got two?
Shit.
You're going to be gone for two weeks.
What am I going to do with two?
I'll go through two like in half an hour.
joe rogan
You're not down with cleaning them.
You don't clean them.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that's the problem.
They need to make them so cheap that you could buy them for, you know what, for five bucks?
Shit.
I'll buy like six.
joe rogan
Well, if you think about how much it costs for if a dude like essentially pays for sex.
You know, if a dude takes a girl out and she fucks him because he took her out to dinner.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much is that?
That's got to be like a couple hundred bucks at least, right?
eddie bravo
Well, flush only like depending.
If you take a girl to like swingers or something, you can get away with like 60 bucks or something.
You don't want to have to go to katanas.
Katanas, you're fucked.
It's like 325.
Or you go to Fogo to Chow.
Damn, you better have just gotten paid.
joe rogan
Isn't it funny when you're dating people and you barely know them and you have to spend a lot of money on them to impress them?
eddie bravo
And how cool is it when you get to that point where you could just, you go, what do you want to eat?
And they're like, I don't care.
And you're like, El Pollo Loco?
You go, fuck you.
I'm like, damn.
We can go to, like, when you cross that threshold of going to El Pollo Loco and it eating like a big deal.
Like, you don't have to impress the bitch.
It's nice.
joe rogan
Wow, that's crazy.
So is it like, do you think, why?
I mean, why is it so important for guys to impress girls with where they take them?
eddie bravo
Well, the girls want to be impressed, man.
No girl wants to get picked up in a shit jalopy and taken to McDonald's, right?
That's not going to happen.
Like, no girl's going to be down with that.
Unless she's like 16 and she's just happy that motherfucker has a car.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
You know what I mean?
You'll go anywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah, girls are not really into dudes with fucked up cars.
You really can't keep that going for too long.
You got to be a bad motherfucker to pull pussy in a fucked up car.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a weird thing, isn't it?
You know, it's like no one wants to say, I mean, it's not entirely common.
It's not every woman.
It's not every woman in the world who only wants guys to do that.
eddie bravo
And a fucked up house, man.
How long?
You've known me for a long goddamn time.
How fucking nasty was my house?
My house is nasty.
Up until like 45 years ago, I was living in basically a dollhouse.
It was a one-bedroom house.
Like it was the smallest house ever.
It was a house, but it was a one-bedroom house.
It had a living room, had a bedroom, tiny.
And when I first moved to Hollywood, I moved with a buddy of mine, James.
We split that motherfucker.
My whole existence was the bedroom, and his whole existence was the living room.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Oh, let me get the commercials out of the way.
We got to keep going with that thought.
I got to get a more effective way of delivering commercials.
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People keep asking me about it.
I hardly ever talk about it, but yeah, I have a t-shirt company.
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It's all like monkeys playing chess, monkeys and aliens playing chess, monkeys in space.
It's just weird psychedelic monkey imagery.
eddie bravo
That's brilliant, man.
joe rogan
That's all I've been fascinated with.
eddie bravo
You've been selling a lot?
joe rogan
Yeah, they sell pretty well, but I don't tell people about them.
I'm like the worst advertiser ever when it comes to that.
I always feel weird, you know, talking about shit you're selling.
So I don't do such a good job of selling shit.
eddie bravo
You do a great job at that mushroom head stuff.
joe rogan
Mushroom head stuff?
eddie bravo
Mushroom.
joe rogan
Alpha brain.
eddie bravo
What is the mushroom that I'm thinking about?
joe rogan
Oh, shroom tech?
eddie bravo
Yes.
Yes.
You do a great job because every time I'm here and you give that commercial, you're so passionate about it.
joe rogan
Shroom Tech is the shit.
eddie bravo
And you know what?
Not only are you passionate about it, but it's a totally different commercial every time you're telling people to go make their own shit.
They're not necessarily, you know, that's deep.
joe rogan
The most important thing for me always with any of these things is to make sure that no one feels like they're getting ripped off.
I do not want a single person having a feeling like they're being ripped off.
unidentified
Totally.
joe rogan
That's the most important thing for me.
Everything else is secondary.
So there's that, you know, and then there's the way we have it set up where anything you buy from Onit.com, like when you buy like the first order of 30 pills of anything, there's 100% money-back guarantee.
You don't even have to bring it back.
All you have to do is say, this shroom tech shit didn't do nothing for me.
Or this alpha brain didn't do nothing for me.
These are the best nutrients and supplements available for this, for these particular functions, for nootropics and for the, you know, for sports athletics when it comes to like a performance and endurance supplement.
Shroom Tech is like one of the best endurance supplements I've ever tried.
One of the only ones that I've ever tried.
It's super effective.
It's got a lot of B12 in it and this cordyceps mushrooms.
And it's fucking, it works great for me.
And I get a lot of reports from people that use it for working out.
eddie bravo
No, it's crazy.
joe rogan
And they love it.
eddie bravo
When people say, because I've always been, I've been a vitamin freak before we even started.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
I've always been a massive vitamin freak.
unidentified
Still am.
joe rogan
You influence me a lot, man.
eddie bravo
I'm on a serious diet or vitamin plan since I was 22, 23.
I was just obsessed with it.
And I just wanted to, it was all about making sure I didn't hit cancer.
I got like a cancer phobia.
joe rogan
Making sure your body gets the building blocks it needs.
eddie bravo
And I wanted to stay young looking as long as possible.
You know, I wanted to look good as long as possible and drag it out.
You know what I mean?
I'm not ready to throw in the towel.
So that was a lot of that going on on my brain.
And I would get into arguments with people and they'd say, how do you know it works, man?
How do you know it works?
And I'm like, well, I'm doing all I can, but if you want me to break it down for you, how does it work?
Is there a difference between chocolate cake and a chicken salad?
Okay, yes.
Yes.
What's the difference between chocolate cake and chicken salad?
The nutrition, what's nutrition?
It means what nutrients are in the chicken and in the salad.
Oh, so now what are nutrients?
They've isolated these nutrients so you could take massive amounts of them.
The only way it wouldn't work is if they weren't actually putting those vitamins and minerals in there, if it was just some fake ass milk powder or whatever, then yeah, it's not doing shit.
But I'm doing what I can to make sure, you know, because there are nutrients and we have, science has known this.
It's basic shit.
Nutrients are needed and all disease is caused by a deficiency of certain nutrients.
unidentified
It's really basic shit.
eddie bravo
If the vitamins I'm taking, if they really are what it says they are in the bottle, for sure it's good for you.
joe rogan
Absolutely.
Yeah, I've always been into vitamins, but when I started hanging out with you, that's when I really kicked my vitamin game up a notch because I was like, this motherfucker is like super, you were real disciplined about it.
And I was like, you know what?
I need to be as disciplined as he is.
That's really a smart thing to do because I know I feel.
I took two weeks off of vitamins recently just for whatever.
I just said, let me see what it feels like to take two weeks off of vitamins.
I took two whole weeks off of vitamins.
And dude, I felt lethargic.
I just didn't, I didn't feel connected right.
Like I was not getting enough from my food.
And I'm eating pretty clean.
I mean, I fuck with some cheeseburgers every now and then, but I'm eating a lot of salads, a lot of greens, a lot of kale shakes and shit.
Still do not feel as good as I do when I'm taking like basic multivitamins, multi-minerals.
I take a lot of fish oil, take like 10,000 milligrams of fish oil a day, and then I take these nootropics.
And out of all the nootropics I've ever found, two of them have worked great for me.
One of them was called Neuro One, and that's Bill Romanowski stuff.
I told you about this, right, Eddie?
There was a guy named No Name.
He's a DJ up in San Francisco, and he became friends with Romanowski.
Romanowski, you know, he's taken like a bunch of head injuries from concussions.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he came out with some shit called Neuro One, and it's like all the best nutrients for your mind.
All the, you know, like very similar, very similar, but it's got like a caffeine to it too.
It's good.
It's like a little bit caffeinated, I believe.
eddie bravo
Here's a little knowledge I'd like to share with all the jiu-jitsu players out there, guys that train MMA.
This is some serious knowledge.
Believe me, trust me.
You want to keep ringworm away?
Take acidophilus every day.
joe rogan
Yes.
eddie bravo
For 1,000%.
1,000% of you take acidophilus every day or eat a big thing of yogurt every day because that's why yogurt's good for you because of the active cultures, the friendly bacteria.
That's what you need.
Acidophilus is bacteria that your body needs.
You actually need bacteria, believe it or not.
You know, I thought it was kind of weird.
There's good bacteria.
The fuck does that mean?
But yes, unless the science, unless they're lying to me, we need friendly bacteria.
And acidophilus, that's what friendly bacteria is.
You're actually eating pills that contain millions and millions of good bacteria.
And what it does, this is what I read.
It eats the ringworm attaches to your skin.
It eats certain things on your skin.
So that fungus will grow and it's eating something on your skin.
Acidophilus eats ringworm food first.
So ringworm can attach itself to you and it has nothing to eat.
So you never get ringworm.
And it sounds crazy.
There's guys out there.
How do you know?
Where's the proof?
Trust me.
Trust me.
I used to get ringworm all the goddamn time.
I was always, I had lamicill ready to go.
And if you get ringworm, get lamecill.
Don't get lotramin.
Don't get nothing else but lamecil cream.
You grind it in with a q-tip.
That shit will kill it in five days.
You want to have ringworm for three weeks or a month?
Use lomatrin or that any other shit.
The only thing that works is lamecill.
Trust me, the cream.
unidentified
Oh, I got that stuff.
eddie bravo
I got Lomatrin.
Go back to the store and get Lamicil, the cream.
Trust me on that.
And, you know, I used to get ringworm all the goddamn time at Jean-Jacques, man, with the ghee, believe it or not.
Ringworm was just like once every three or four months.
God damn it.
And I'm out of training for like three weeks or whatever because I wasn't using Lamicil.
It wasn't out yet.
And then I read somewhere that Acidophilus eats ringworm food.
I don't know where the hell I read it.
I just read it and it made sense to me.
joe rogan
We should probably like Google this a little.
eddie bravo
Yeah, look in.
You know what?
Look into it.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're right.
Once you start.
eddie bravo
Anytime I get ringworm, it's when I run out of acidophilus and I'm too goddamn lazy to go to the store and I let it, I don't go to the store for like a week.
Boom!
Ringworm on my arm somewhere.
I know it works a million percent.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
That's just a little advice for y'all.
joe rogan
How do you spell acidophilus?
eddie bravo
A-C-I-D-O-P-H-I-L-U-S or some shit like that.
I got lost at the end.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did a little bit.
Hmm, yeah, this is.
Well, I'm sure there's something that's going to explain it to us technically.
But basically, that's one of the home remedies to cure ringworm is acidophilus.
eddie bravo
Absolutely.
It prevents it.
If I'm on ringworm or on acidophilus for a year straight, guarantee I ain't going to get ringworm.
There's no way.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I haven't had ringworm in years.
This is true.
And one of the other things I take, another form of live culture, is kombucha tea.
That's easy for me.
I like the way it tastes.
You've had those, right?
Those big synergies?
eddie bravo
I think I've had one, and it's kind of an acquired taste, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like you're swallowing a little bit of loads in there.
There's some like, I mean, there's like some live organisms you're swallowing.
Like I tried to get Anthony Giordano on.
He was like, oh, I can't get through that.
You're swallowing a live thing.
You are swallowing some live loads.
We're still in the middle of this commercial, technically.
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We've said enough about nootropics.
You know what it is, folks.
And if you're interested in it, you should go read about it.
Google it.
And if you think that our stuff is too expensive, please just steal the ingredient list.
Go make your own.
I don't care.
I don't want anybody feeling ripped off.
But if you want to buy it, and it is good, and I use it.
I use it on a regular basis.
I use it before anything important.
Before my show, when I filmed my show in Atlanta, I took four of those bitches.
I'm like, let's go.
I want to be fired.
I want to be on all cylinders.
I 100% believe in it.
And if you don't, you can always get your money back.
First 30 pills, you just send it back.
You don't even have to send it back, rather.
You just say it sucked, and we send you money back.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that's how I feel exactly.
I could easily charge 20 bucks, 25 bucks, 30 bucks a month for membership on my website for all the techniques that I upload.
I charge $4.99.
I could have went $9.99 or $11.99 easily.
joe rogan
You don't want anybody to feel ripped off.
eddie bravo
Not only that, I don't want to hear any complaints.
joe rogan
Yes, me too.
eddie bravo
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Me too.
eddie bravo
Anytime someone complains about, because they're basically buying episodes that are filled with technique and I put them out every two to three weeks.
You know, it's a lot of work.
And every now and then, the episodes come out late and the guy will go on the board.
What the fuck, man?
Like, dude, you're paying $4.99 for everything I teach at school.
It's not separate techniques that I film specifically for the website.
It's the techniques that I'm teaching to my students at headquarters.
That gets filmed and every technique I teach goes up on the website.
You have access to the whole system for $4.99.
Shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Yeah, $4.99 a month is really not that much money.
I mean, consider how much jiu-jitsu costs.
What is like a cheap school?
$100 a month?
Cheap.
The most inexpensive is like $100, right?
eddie bravo
And I charge $130 a month.
There's a lot of schools that charge $190, $2.10.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Over $200.
They make you sign a year contract or they don't even want to talk to you.
$130 is fair.
I was charging $105 for a while, but you know what?
In almost 10 years, I went from 105 to 130.
No big deal.
joe rogan
It's not a big deal.
And this new space is expensive and it's fucking big, man.
The legends is fucking huge.
As far as like gyms in LA where you can get like everything done, damn, that's a gym where you can get everything done.
That's a big wrestling classes, Muay Thai classes.
Three floors plus a roof.
I really like watching Chris Riley train guys too, man.
Chris Riley is a bad motherfucker when it comes to Muay Thai.
He's very technical.
Very smart.
Very intelligent guy.
eddie bravo
And look at the guys he brought up, Chris Brady, one of the amateurs that he fought his third pro fight Saturday.
Man, his stand-up is so wicked, and I just gave him his purple belt.
He just submitted a guy with a guillotine.
Wow.
joe rogan
He's a good dude, too.
I love that kid.
You got a lot of good guys at that gym.
A lot of real nice guys.
Alan Jubon.
How nice is that guy?
The whole gym is just filled with cool guys.
eddie bravo
The MMA squad, they're all coming up strong like a force.
It's taken a while to build them, man.
Most of the guys were strikers first, like Alan Jubon, Eddie Jackson.
joe rogan
Jubon had a lot of fights, right?
How many Muay Thai fights did he have?
eddie bravo
I don't know, but a whole bunch.
And same thing with Chris Brady.
They were just pure strikers for years.
We were both, we were in the same building.
They just weren't taking, they really wanted to do just Muay Thai.
And then, and this was like 2005, 2006.
And as MMA rose, as the UFC rose, they started at the gym like, damn, maybe I should do MMA.
You know, Eddie's teaching jiu-jitsu.
Maybe I should just jump in.
So they finally jumped in four years ago, headfirst.
So now I got these vicious strikers.
And Alan as well.
I gave him his purple belt as well.
They're really good at jiu-jitsu now, too.
It's fun watching this.
And this is just the beginning.
joe rogan
It must be like really satisfying watching people, like from the time they first came to you when they didn't know much, to watch them start to tap people and submit people, watching the progress.
eddie bravo
It's amazing.
joe rogan
It must be incredible.
eddie bravo
You know what's weird about that is when a guy comes to me and joins my class and it's his first day, inside my initial reaction when someone comes and I meet them for the first time, I want them to say they've been training a year or two.
It's just going to make my job easier if they have some kind of base going on or some wrestling.
But the guys that come in with zero experience, 100% green, I'm like, ooh, this is going to be a hard one.
But they're basically retarded on the ground, like crippled.
It's like going through rehab with them, putting their legs.
They're just like, they have no clue.
But when those guys start, when those guys get good and they start tapping people out, it feels so much better.
I know I took them from a cripple and now they're tapping dudes out.
Man, that happens a lot.
And that feels really, really good.
And I see it so much that when guys come up to me and they're all pumped up and I see how enthusiastic they are and I know they got the fire.
I know because some guys come in and they don't really want to roll their first couple days.
They're taking them easy.
They're sitting on the side.
They're kind of just, you know, dipping their feet in the water a little bit.
And they're taking their time.
You know what?
Let me get three months of fundamental classes out of the way.
Then I might spar.
unidentified
I don't know.
eddie bravo
And then there's guys with no experience at all.
They come in.
They've had like three or four beginners classes and I make them take 24 beginner classes before they can take my classes.
There's some guys that come to me, you know, three or four classes, and they're just so down.
Like, I won't, I won't subject a veteran with one of them when they're exchanging techniques and we're drilling because it slows everyone down.
The beginner's classes, so you know the strategies, the terminology, all that shit, so you don't slow us down in the advanced classes.
We move really fast.
24 beginner classes is enough, you know, but there's some guy, I'll let you roll if you want to roll after the technique and you want to hang out and roll.
When those guys come up to me and they ask me, you know, I've only had five beginner classes, but can I roll?
I'm like, dude, you're going to have so much fun, man.
You have the right attitude.
joe rogan
Do you like watching a guy like what roll means for folks who don't know is a live spar.
It means you try to choke each other.
Do you pay real close attention to a guy's first role ever?
Do you have like guys that you see and you know this is going to be the first time he's ever rolled?
Do you watch them closer?
No.
eddie bravo
No, I can't tell you that I remember anybody's first role.
I mean, it's almost like it's going to suck really bad for a while.
For three months, it takes three months for a guy to come in and not know anything, never play a sport in his life.
You come in, your first month is going to seem like, it's going to seem like trigonometry.
You're going to go, holy shit.
But it's just as easy as learning the ABCs.
It's just as easy.
The first day of learning the ABCs, you're a grown adult and somehow you didn't learn how to read.
It's going to be hard in the beginning.
unidentified
You got to learn 26 letters and then you put them together and you form words and then a sentence.
eddie bravo
That's way like, like it seems so complex.
But after three months, like babies can do this.
It's the same thing with jiu-jitsu.
It's just as easy.
If you could learn the ABCs, you can do jiu-jitsu.
So after three months, that's the point where I notice people start getting, they start getting the taps.
And because in the beginning, it's like you just joined a league or you just joined a class and everyone's really good at Quake.
And they've all been playing Quake two, three years straight, five years and ten years.
And Sensei's been teaching for, or playing Quake for 20 years.
The motherfucker helped invent that shit.
He's a programmer and shit back in the day.
And then you come in, you're going to get killed on Quake.
You're going to get jacked.
You're not going to kill anybody for a while.
But it hurts you just as much physically.
You're not going to get hurt in jiu-jitsu.
You tap.
No one gets hurt.
I mean, you get hurt just as much as, you know, playing basketball or whatever.
We said that before.
But.
joe rogan
Especially if you're real smart.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
You got to learn how to not muscle things.
Yeah.
Don't go crazy.
You got to learn how to go full clip, but use technique.
eddie bravo
Yeah, some people are still terrified.
unidentified
They look at jiu-jitsu and it's terrifying to them.
eddie bravo
It's incredible how terrifying it is to people.
And it shouldn't be.
People need to understand that most of the guys are just sweetheart little nerds that train.
joe rogan
They're just.
Well, I think people in general have issues with human conflict.
They're scared of conflict.
They're scared of someone beating them up.
We all are.
And a lot of us who got into martial arts, like me, and I know like you, we really, you know, we got bullied a lot when we were younger.
We got in positions where we didn't know if we could defend ourselves.
You know, that's like, that's one of the reasons why guys get into martial arts in the first place.
eddie bravo
Yeah, man.
My first day.
joe rogan
It's important.
It's an important thing for, I think, for a man to learn.
It really is.
eddie bravo
Absolutely.
It should be standard.
It should be like in PE class standard.
Everybody has got to learn how to defend ourselves.
joe rogan
You know, I didn't teach Taekwondo for that long.
I taught from like mostly like full-time from like 19 to like 22.
And that's when I stopped.
So I didn't have like a lot of students that got real good.
But I did have one.
And it was a girl.
It was this really shy, awkward girl.
And she was really, like, she was really intense.
Like she, like, she didn't wear any makeup.
She was like, I don't really know what her deal was.
My whole interaction with her was just in teaching her in the class.
But she was like so intense, man.
She wanted to learn so hard.
Like she was like so focused on it.
She was like really shy and kind of weird and kind of embarrassed.
And I worked with her a lot because she would like want to enter into tournaments.
And I took her from being a white belt to being this girl who won this tournament.
She won a tournament.
I think she won like as a blue belt, a green belt, or a blue belt.
But I had basically taught her the whole way.
I had basically taught her the whole way and watching this kid, this like real awkward kid, like learn how to get enough confidence to go out there and enter into a martial arts tournament and actually win and like kick this other chick's ass and like go after her.
Like this did the whole thing to her was like, it was so crazy and empowering to watch someone go from being a complete total novice and to watch just the stuff that I put in their head, just the training that she did with me.
She went on to become like really good.
Like in just a couple of years.
It was wild.
It was wild to watch.
It was crazy satisfying.
eddie bravo
With Chris Brady, again, he's one of Chris Riley's Muay Thai prodigies.
He's, you know, I just gave him his purple belt.
We were working on, like, I'm not very good at the arm and guillotine, but we started three months ago.
I really started adding it in.
And I'm not that good.
I started adding it into weekly workouts, just working on the squeeze, just putting people in the guard, arm and guillotine, cinched in.
And the guy on top has to defend and the guy on the bottom is working on a squeeze.
We're just working that, working the ending of that guillotine.
I'm not that good at it, but I didn't want my guys to suck at it too.
And the arm and guillotine, any guillotines are so important, especially in MMA and the scrambles.
You really can't set up a guillotine.
A guillotine, you just got to snatch it and it's got to be under the chin and then you got to know how to close it and twist it and turn it.
joe rogan
Didn't you love Nate Diaz's?
unidentified
Yes, yes.
joe rogan
How badass was that where he got it with one arm?
He had one arm just cinched through and he knew he was not going to lose that arm.
His squeeze is tight and he tucked that one arm through and then he adjusted his hands.
eddie bravo
That was what and you for people that trained jiu-jitsu, like if you've trained over 10 years, maybe even at five years, you can tell when a guy owns a move.
Like before he got the tap, the way he wrapped it up, the way he, because it took, you know, when he wrapped up the neck, it probably took another 20 seconds to get the tap, maybe something like that.
There's a battle going on.
Something like that.
joe rogan
That's pretty quick.
eddie bravo
It wasn't right away.
He was battling with it for a while.
Maybe I would say maybe 10 at the earliest, maybe 20, 15.
But during that period when Jim Miller was fighting the guillotine, you can just tell the way Nick was like, damn, I never do guillotines like that.
It's a one-arm guillotine.
You know, Einstein does one-arm guillotines.
The one that Chris Brady got is just a basic arm in guillotine.
joe rogan
Do you see how long Nate's arms are too?
That's one of the badass things about his guillotine.
He put Marcus Davis out with the guillotine, too.
He catches a lot of guys with that.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that's his shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
It's tight when he mounts you too.
God damn it.
That's a thing of beauty.
That's beautiful technique.
eddie bravo
And people that don't train out there, you got to understand that just like a video game, my video game analogy, not everybody can, even though most people, most black belts can probably figure out that guillotine and teach it what Nick D's is doing, to have it down so good that you can put it on another black belt, a guy trained to defend all that shit all the time.
Defense is way easier than offense.
To pull it off, you have to put so much time into that move, into that transition, into that movement and the squeeze and the bend.
There's so much that needs to be polished.
Not very, there's not that.
I mean, in the UFC, I would say maybe there's at max 10 guys that have a guillotine as good as Nate Diaz.
Like that one.
I mean, you just don't see it.
joe rogan
Is it even 10?
Is it Jake Shields?
Hey, you know Jake Shields has got a nasty guillotine.
eddie bravo
Yeah, but the one that Nate did, the one you have it down so good, you could do it with one arm.
joe rogan
Well, Jake does the one arm.
He got remember he got Nick Thompson with a one arm?
eddie bravo
Yeah, definitely, I would say.
joe rogan
Or it wasn't Strike Force.
eddie bravo
Jake Shields has one of the best squeezes in the game, for sure.
joe rogan
We caught Robbie Lawler with the arm in.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He gets a hold of Nex.
He's a dangerous motherfucker.
eddie bravo
The crazy thing about the guillotine is it's probably the easiest choke to learn, yet so few people have mastered it to the point where they're finishing people in big MMA fights.
joe rogan
Well, people don't realize also there's a whole bunch of weird different grips that people use for these techniques too, which greatly alter the way you apply pressure.
eddie bravo
It's all about what you're used to.
I mean, you could make really any grip work because there's probably about, I'm going to say, I'm just throwing this number out, five to eight different guillotines out there.
Maybe there's four.
joe rogan
I love it.
eddie bravo
Maybe there's not five.
Off the top of my head, maybe there's more that I just lost track of.
There's the Marcela teen.
There's the regular Armin guillotine.
There's the Armin guillotine that Denny likes with the inverted pretzel grip.
joe rogan
That inverted pretzel grip is the shit.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
I just watched a video of Marcelo explaining why he uses his grip for his guillotine, and it makes a lot of sense.
It made a lot, a lot of sense.
When you go in, right?
You're going in, the guy's chest is here.
They're going to defend like this, right?
So they're going to hook the outside.
They're going to be between you and your arm right here.
See that?
Right?
So you make room, and then you could stick this one on top.
See?
If you were going to do like, let's say, this grip here, their hands are right here.
joe rogan
They're stopping.
Unfortunately, for folks on itunes, we're describing a bunch of different ways to squeeze someone's neck.
eddie bravo
Do you understand?
joe rogan
I totally understand.
eddie bravo
I need this space.
If I go this way, I need this space.
But that's where their hands are going to be.
So Marcelo's ways, he needs a space in between my hand and the body.
I govern that.
So even if you grab my hand here, I could still possibly.
joe rogan
Just for the folks who are listening at home, what he's doing is changing the way his hand is in relationship to his body where you squeeze a person's neck.
eddie bravo
It's all about squeezing their neck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's amazing how technical it is.
People really don't know how technical it is.
I mean, the actual technique that's involved in jiu-jitsu.
It's really an amazing and fascinating sport because it's like an expanded game of chess.
It's more fascinating than chess because, and you said this, you were the first person to ever say this.
Someone was talking about jiu-jitsu being chess.
And you said, yeah, but it's with chess pieces, like this piece can only go like there, you know, or this piece can only go there.
With jujitsu, it's bodies and strength and all this other stuff.
It's like, you're like, it's way crazier than chess.
And I was like, yeah, you know, you really stop and think about it.
eddie bravo
Chess is checkers compared to jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, you're dealing with thinking, you're dealing with technique, you're dealing with strategy, you're dealing with patience, you're dealing with knowledge of positions, knowledge of the next step to the next step, knowledge of if this guy does try to counter, he's going to do this, and then I'm going to do that.
And then if he does that, the only thing left for him is to leave this.
You know, and you have these little steps that you have in your head if you're an intelligent person and you can think far ahead.
And if you're going to go against a guy who doesn't have that, you'll always be one step ahead.
So your mind is an important factor in the whole equation.
It's not just about brute strength.
It's about knowledge and position and keeping your fucking head together while it's all going on.
For people who don't train, man, God, you're missing out on a really fun thing in life.
It's a fun thing.
It's a weird fucking fun way to exercise.
eddie bravo
I've said this before.
Find your nearest jiu-jitsu school.
It doesn't matter if it's 10th planet.
Hey, if there's a 10th planet school in your city, join it.
You know, you're going to deal with a bunch of open-minded, fun-loving computer nerds, man, that like to play games of death.
You know what I mean?
But find, if there's no 10th planet school, find any school.
Just any jiu-jitsu is better than no jiu-jitsu.
It's so much fun.
It's the ultimate video game.
I always say that, but man, it's so damn true.
And what ends up happening is you end up the people that can hang with sparring without getting, you know, and they get tapped and they don't get all crazy and all burnt.
Most people take it personal when they get tapped.
When they tap out, they feel like their weakness has been exposed and they run from the gym and they don't want to tap out in front of other people.
It's so crazy.
Their ego's out of control.
But the people that do stay, the people that can handle getting tapped and they keep their ego under control and it's all a mental game.
You end up with a great group of guys that you could trust.
Generally, douchebags do filter through, but generally they'll end up getting cut out.
You're just left with a bunch of great guys, you know.
And one thing that, you know, jiu-jitsu becomes so much a part of your life that after five years, all your friends train jiu-jitsu.
You end up like cutting out the friends that really don't train that much.
And most of your friends end up coming from the jiu-jitsu circle because there's like such a giant pool of great dudes, you know.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
It is true.
You know, it's a lot of dudes who, I have a lot of friends who don't do jiu-jitsu like Joey and Brian and Ari.
eddie bravo
Joey wants to though.
He's been wanting to.
Joey's a big fan of jiu-jitsu.
joe rogan
If he was in shape, I bet he would be into it.
eddie bravo
Joey loves jiu-jitsu.
He's all about it.
But, you know, he's got a lot of shit going on, man.
The guy's a busy dude, you know.
joe rogan
He's busier than ever lately.
Joey's headlining all over the country now.
He's headed down to, if you want to see Joey, he's in Scottsdale this weekend.
Scottsdale, Arizona.
I don't know the name of the club.
But if you go to Joey's Twitter, I'm sure he puts it up on his Twitter.
Call him?
Is that what you're saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You think your phone will work here?
unidentified
I got two bars.
joe rogan
Give it a shot.
We have the most non-sophisticated.
eddie bravo
Oh, no, now I have one bar.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Signals up here suck it.
But anyway, Joey got this gigantic fucking standing ovation when we were in New York this weekend, man.
People love that dude.
It was amazing.
I got it here.
It was incredible, man.
He went on stage.
They were screaming.
eddie bravo
Right at the top?
joe rogan
No.
He didn't even go at the top.
We had Duncan go up first this time.
And then Joey went up.
God damn, dude.
He fucking crushed it.
eddie bravo
This is New York?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is like for a minute.
This is Joey standing on stage.
unidentified
Dude.
eddie bravo
That sounds like a Coldplay concert.
unidentified
Listen to this, man.
joe rogan
This is just Joey standing on stage.
That's all he's doing.
He just walked out onto the stage.
Are you hearing this?
unidentified
It's incredible.
joe rogan
Yo, this goes on for a minute.
unidentified
Dude.
eddie bravo
That's something like a phenomenon right there.
unidentified
Dude.
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, and I go, wow.
eddie bravo
That's incredible.
joe rogan
That's some rock and roll comedy right there.
That was crazy.
eddie bravo
I mean, you've been saying it forever.
And you've known him longer than I have.
And you've always said he was the funniest guy on the planet.
And I started to agree with you back in 2005 when I got to really get to know him.
joe rogan
Joey Diaz makes me funnier.
Joey Diaz brings the party.
He makes me feel better.
You know, it was really funny.
I love my manager.
He's the best.
I've never had another.
I've had one manager since the time I was an open mic-er.
But when we were talking about the show, they were like, we think it'd be better if you got introduced off camera.
You know, if you just, you, they just say your name.
And you come out clean.
Because otherwise, like, this guy's introducing you.
And people are like, who's this guy?
And I'm like, oh, no fucking way.
Joey's bringing me up.
Like, Joey's bringing me up.
Joey always brings me up.
When I work with Joey, I have more fun.
When I work with Joey, it's more laughter.
It's more hugs.
It's more, everything's funner.
eddie bravo
And you know, you know when he's his funniest?
It's because, you know, he's known for the Joey Karate reviews and all that stuff.
And he says some funny-ass shit.
But just like us, like when we were talking about fighters, we can't, we don't really say the same shit we would.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
eddie bravo
Like, if we weren't on air.
joe rogan
Right.
eddie bravo
You know what I mean?
Because the things guys say to each other about a fight and about a fighter that got crushed, we would never say.
joe rogan
Never say.
eddie bravo
Like, 70%.
It's just like, we're being real on the phone.
When Joey calls me, like, he called me Saturday.
He called me Saturday after the UFC.
And he's fucking stoned to the gills, barely awake.
He's like, I can't even say it.
I can't even say it.
But he just crushes people.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't say what he says.
But he's always saying it to be funny.
eddie bravo
Yeah, it's the funniest shit.
It's the funniest shit ever.
He's just not crushing it.
joe rogan
I mean, he's not being a mean guy.
eddie bravo
It's the funniest shit ever.
joe rogan
He's so funny, man.
eddie bravo
And people will never get to hear that shit.
joe rogan
They'll never get to hear the best shit.
The best shit that he could never say.
eddie bravo
Only if it's a fighter that's, like, from, like, Uganda.
And Joey's never going to run into him.
And he's on his way out.
Like, he just got cut.
If it's a fighter that just got cut and never had a chance and will never come back, then Joey might be okay to give the green light.
joe rogan
Dude, he can say shit on stage that no one else could ever say on stage.
eddie bravo
Yeah, exactly.
He could say crazier shit on stage than he can, like, in a podcast.
Yeah.
On stage, you can get away with it.
joe rogan
On stage, you can get away with it.
But on a podcast, you got to represent you.
On stage, you could just be material.
eddie bravo
Yeah, because the real funny shit is the shit.
You talk shit with your friends on the street in New York.
When you're getting deep and there's no fucking rules and no one's recording shit.
joe rogan
Dude, one time at the goddamn comedy store, Joey Diaz, and this is in front of a mixed audience.
He's not just, he's talking about some defensive line and some strategy in football that was a night of a thousand niggers.
And he's saying this on stage in front of a mixed crowd.
Joey Diaz is crazy.
unidentified
He doesn't even, it was a long time ago.
joe rogan
He probably doesn't even remember that.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's so much of his best shit you have to, like, remind him of.
Because he's so free-flowing.
Joey can just go on and on about any subject and it becomes hilarious.
eddie bravo
Yeah, I think Joey being, you know, 100% Cuban, I think a super Latin guy with that New York flavor.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, he can get away with it.
eddie bravo
You can say N-I-G-G-A.
I think black people let him say it.
joe rogan
Are you really spelling it out instead of saying it?
eddie bravo
Dude, I don't want people coming after me, dude.
joe rogan
It's become the new Muhammad.
You can't even draw a picture of it.
eddie bravo
Kwatuf wouldn't even say that.
Kwatuf never said N-I-G-G-A.
joe rogan
Wow.
eddie bravo
I won't go there.
joe rogan
Wow.
That's amazing.
What a powerful word.
eddie bravo
Oh, no, actually, he did.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
He did.
eddie bravo
He wrote a song about it.
unidentified
I was wrong.
joe rogan
For people who don't know, Eddie and I have been friends for a long time.
And one time, before I knew,
eddie i would have advised him against doing this he made a video and he made a video of him playing a rapper that wears actually wears black face and it's the concept's really fucking it's it was pretty funny man but people got really mad at you people got really mad explain the concept the concept was that this guy was pretending that he had vitiligo and that he was just he had to cover his whole body just like michael Yeah, just like Michael Jackson.
So he had a, he was just, the makeup was just to balance out the real color of his skin because he's really black.
Like, it's crazy.
eddie bravo
But he has like total black face.
joe rogan
Yeah, so he's wearing like black makeup.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
And he had an Afro wig on, right?
You had an Afro wig?
eddie bravo
Yeah, yeah.
Well, the character is like, he curled his hair.
It wasn't a wig.
He's just curled his hair, and he's only wearing black.
joe rogan
When you did it, did you curl your hair?
eddie bravo
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I wore a wig.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Okay, so you have like a separate biography for the character?
The character actually curls his hair.
eddie bravo
I got a whole movie.
joe rogan
It is his hair.
eddie bravo
I don't know.
Of how he ended up with the makeup.
It's the whole story.
Dude, I got a story of before he was even born.
His mother and his father, like how they got together and then had him.
unidentified
It goes deep.
joe rogan
Now, is that one of the reasons why you won't say the word?
Just the word, nigga?
eddie bravo
You know what?
After I, I just came up with that case.
I got really stoned one night.
This is in 2000.
I was watching a Michael Jackson, I was watching Barbara Walters interview Michael Jackson, that famous interview.
And she asked a hard question.
She said, Michael, when you look, what do you see when you look in the mirror, Michael?
She asked him that, and he goes, Barbara, I don't look in the mirror.
And I was like, what?
And then he started in this interview explain that the reason he has all the white makeup is because he has Vitilago.
He has it all over his face.
joe rogan
Which, by the way, he very might well have.
Or have had.
For people who don't know it, I have it.
You can see it on my knuckles.
Like I have my knuckles like really white.
You just don't see it on much on me because I'm a white guy.
eddie bravo
And he was telling Barbara Walters that it was all over his body.
And so the brown spots that remained, he decided to bleach those out and then cover all the skin with.
That could all be true.
joe rogan
That could be true people do that.
eddie bravo
That could all be true.
But there's black people that have Vitilago and they're all white.
And they choose the brown makeup.
He chose the white makeup.
He didn't have to choose white.
joe rogan
Anyways, but if you look if he did, I think in his case, if he's to be believed, he would have had to have makeup all over his body.
eddie bravo
Apparently he bleached his whole body or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, there's some severe cases of it.
eddie bravo
Okay, I'll get it.
joe rogan
A lot of it is stress.
It's nutrient.
And that's one of the reasons, by the way, my Vitilago completely stopped once I started taking vitamins hardcore.
Completely stopped.
eddie bravo
I believe it.
joe rogan
And it never spread.
eddie bravo
Who's more stressed out than Michael Jackson?
joe rogan
Fuck.
Yeah, exactly.
eddie bravo
Almost went to jail for molesting the boys.
But anyway, but even if he does have a good excuse for his face being all white, you know what I mean?
Then you add all the other stuff.
The guy straightens his hair out.
He got nine nose jobs.
He did facial reconstruction.
To me, nobody wanted to be white more than Michael Jackson.
He wanted to be white more than anybody.
And he got away with it in increments because everybody that's around him, no one's going to say, Michael, what the fuck are you doing to your face?
They're out of the circle.
They get cut out.
So he's surrounded by a bunch of guys.
Like every time he did something to his face or whatever, people didn't even notice it.
They said, Mr. Jackson, you're 3 o'clock.
Is here.
Mr. Jackson, we got some more boys in the backyard.
Mr. Jackson, you know what I mean?
They never questioned him.
They get cut out.
No one sat him down and said, dude, look at the fucking mirror.
You look like an alien.
joe rogan
He kept just chopping.
eddie bravo
He just kept going, kept going, kept building fucking carnival rides and all that shit.
So to me, the character, back to the character, I was watching this Barbara Walters special and I thought, what if a guy did it in reverse?
What if there was a white guy that wanted to be black so bad that he used the same excuse?
joe rogan
Have you seen this video of the tanning lady from New Jersey?
eddie bravo
I saw a picture of her.
joe rogan
Dude.
Dude.
You got to see the interview.
You haven't seen the interview?
eddie bravo
Nah.
joe rogan
You're not going to fucking believe this.
There's a lady who tans so much.
She's black like Denzel Washington, dude.
She's a white chick and she's black as fuck.
It looks like a Saturday Night Live parody.
It totally does.
eddie bravo
It doesn't even look real.
joe rogan
I'm going to pull this up for you.
Hold on.
eddie bravo
Do I have to stand up?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
I'll pull it up.
I'll pull it up.
Yeah, YouTube.
I'll just think, let me see.
Tanning Lady.
eddie bravo
If you go on YouTube, Google or search for Qua Tooth, Q-U-A.
joe rogan
This is still up there.
eddie bravo
It's still up there, dude.
unidentified
It's still up there.
eddie bravo
Qua Tooth.
Please forgive me.
I did that like 12 years ago.
I didn't realize putting on black makeup was considered blackface.
I didn't know the whole history of blackface.
I just created a character.
A guy who wanted to be black so bad that he lied to people and told people he had Vidilago.
But I didn't realize it was like taboo to put black makeup on.
I'm sorry to all my black brothers out there.
joe rogan
Do people get mad at you?
eddie bravo
Yeah, there's some people that got mad at me, man.
There's some people that got mad.
They thought it was racist.
A lot of people thought I was racist.
The guy who put it up on YouTube, he thought it was racist.
He put it up to like ruin me.
I mean, that video is on one of my first DVDs.
Yeah, it's on my first DVD or something or my second one.
But I actually didn't put it on YouTube.
A guy who hates me, who thinks I'm racist, a white guy who just took offense to it for some reason.
joe rogan
Look at this lady.
This is real.
She took her daughter tanning, apparently, this crazy bitch.
But wait till you get to her.
Look at her.
eddie bravo
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Is that the scariest thing you've ever seen in your life?
eddie bravo
Does she think anything's wrong?
joe rogan
I have no idea.
eddie bravo
Is she talking about slowing down?
joe rogan
No, look at her.
For folks who can't see, you don't want to hear this woman's voice.
Or I would plug in the audio, but shit, you don't want to hear this lady's voice.
It'll just depress the shit out of you that this person has a kid.
She took her kid into the fucking tanning booth, apparently.
That's why they arrested her.
They arrested her for having her kid, wants to get like mommy, She looks like she's out in the middle of the woods.
By the way, I think Aborigines, you're not allowed to say that.
Or is it Eskimo?
One of those, a new thing you're not allowed to say.
Someone said you're not allowed to say that.
unidentified
Oh, really?
eddie bravo
You can't say Eskimo?
joe rogan
basketball is bad.
It's a...
eddie bravo
Then we'd have something to worry about.
Are there?
joe rogan
Are you kidding me?
eddie bravo
In Alaska?
joe rogan
Dude, it's incredibly poor in Alaska.
eddie bravo
Eskimo ghettos.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure, man.
There's some of the poorest people.
eddie bravo
You would think they'd be accustomed, they just make igloos.
How much does that cost you?
joe rogan
Try to live like this.
eddie bravo
that's probably racist, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't say that.
Well, I do in jokes.
I mean, I make fun of Sarah Palin until you get back in an igloo.
eddie bravo
I mean, I can't see how that would be.
joe rogan
Igloos are, you know, for primitive people.
That's why, you know, they're modern Inuits.
They're living in 2012.
They have the internet.
They're out there trying to get jobs.
You know, but a lot of them have the same problems that American Indians do.
You know, new people came in and took over the land that their families had been used for generations and generations.
eddie bravo
Who's more equipped for the fucking end than Eskimos?
Eskimos are ready for it.
joe rogan
How badass are they when you think about it?
Some people that survived in a place where it was cold as fuck, and they're just walking around, walking around.
eddie bravo
Are igloos for real?
Do they still make them?
joe rogan
They had to.
eddie bravo
Do they still make them now?
joe rogan
I mean, I'm sure somebody.
eddie bravo
What if there's badass pimp igloos, right?
joe rogan
They live in caves, man.
I was watching this one thing.
It was a book that someone read about a man who got done with, he gave up on money.
Have you heard of this dude?
Apparently he was an intelligent guy.
Let me Google this real quick.
But, you know, they showed this guy.
He's living in a fucking cave.
He gave up on money in like 2003.
He just said, fuck this.
I don't want to deal with money anymore.
I'm just going to live off dumpster diving and eating fucking roadkill.
unidentified
I would rather live in a fucking one-bedroom igloo than a fucking cave, dude.
Are you cave?
joe rogan
It's completely retarded.
Stop and think about rats.
eddie bravo
Unless it was the snake or the cave from Land of the Lost.
Remember?
That's a good cave, right?
joe rogan
What are those animals that would come?
eddie bravo
It was all lit up in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, what were those things called?
Klee Stacks?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
I would live in that cave.
joe rogan
That's it.
eddie bravo
That's it?
That's the best cave I've ever seen.
joe rogan
That show was so stupid.
eddie bravo
I believed it.
joe rogan
Yeah, this dude on survivalist.com.
Apparently he was an intelligent guy, too.
He just, whatever, for whatever fucking weird reason, he just decided to just give up.
eddie bravo
What if that was a gimmick?
You know, now he's famous.
Now he's getting laid.
joe rogan
He's a blogger.
eddie bravo
Just tell people you live in a cave.
joe rogan
He blogs in the library, but he completely gave up on money.
Yeah, he's a fucking idiot.
Look, money gets you soap, and it's a way that we exchange worth.
Yeah, it's not perfect.
His system sucks, but you tell me you wouldn't want to watch Game of Thrones?
You don't want to watch that show?
You're an asshole.
What's wrong with you?
It's fucking amazing.
It's an incredible work of art, and it's on, you know, HBO.
Get a job so you could pay for HBO, you dumb fuck, you cave-dwelling asshole.
You're missing out on so much cool shit.
Have you ever had beats by Dr. Dre headphones on?
Have you ever wore those, you dummy?
No.
unidentified
Are those cool?
joe rogan
They're fucking amazing.
Yeah, they're great too, and they noise cancel when you're on airplanes, dude.
They got that noise-canceling feature, so all you hear is the sound.
You get taken away, especially if you eat a pot cookie before you get to the airport and you time it perfectly.
Yeah.
You know?
Oh, yeah.
Beats by Dr. Dre.
And this asshole, no money asshole, he's never going to experience that.
If you've never experienced being way too high in a plane, listening to some Jimi Hendrix while you got your eyes closed, well, you're really freaking out.
You feel yourself kind of freaking out because you're way too high to just be hanging around a bunch of people you don't know, laying down side by side next to some total stranger.
Just some total stranger.
I could reach over and touch him with my pinky.
Like I have to stay all cuddled up so that I don't roll over and touch this total stranger.
eddie bravo
Maybe we don't know the whole story.
Maybe like his wife fucked his son or something and he was like, fuck that.
You know, something horrible, you know?
joe rogan
Maybe, yeah.
eddie bravo
There's got to be some more to it.
For you to give up everything, go in a cave, your wife had to do some evil shit.
joe rogan
Maybe not.
Maybe he's just a fucking dumb dude.
You know?
Maybe he's just crazy.
Who knows?
The world is filled with fucking crackpots, man.
The world is filled with people that think they got it nailed and they found some new righteous course.
Or the guy might genuinely like being alone outside.
Who knows?
Maybe foraging for food is the only thing that keeps him from being depressed.
I don't know, man.
There's some people that feel like they don't get enough out of living everyday life the way everybody else lives it.
Maybe this guy has some weird sense of danger because he's out there living like with no roof over his head in caves.
Maybe that actually does give a little spark inside of him.
I'm just talking shit.
eddie bravo
Hey, what do you think?
What do you think about what they're saying on the internet?
It could be totally bullshit, but it seems like it's real.
It seems like all the presidents are all related.
joe rogan
Oh, I've seen one of those.
eddie bravo
I mean, has that been proven to be a hoax?
joe rogan
I think we should go to snopes.com, right?
eddie bravo
Dude, is that Snopes?
If that's real, because on Obama on camera is talking about him being related to Dick Cheney or what?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
eddie bravo
Yes.
On camera.
In an interview, they ask him about it.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if like that David Icke dude was right and they're all really reptilians?
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if life really was like a comic book movie?
eddie bravo
You know, Obama said on camera, on camera, he's like on some show and he goes, yeah, that's more of like the reptilian side of my brain that would react like that.
He said some shit like that that I'm sure David Icke is fucking his head's exploding when he hears shit like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
It appears, it appears.
There's so much evidence in different TV shows and news reports on it.
News reports that George Bush is related to fucking like kings.
There is a bloodline.
There is a royal bloodline.
And that all these guys that are president, they're part of the 13 royal bloodlines.
How crazy is that?
joe rogan
It's pretty crazy.
eddie bravo
What if it's true?
What if it's true that they're all related and it's all like a royal family and elections are just a big fucking act?
It'd be amazing.
joe rogan
It'd be amazing if they could pull that off like that.
You know, it was funny how some people like Brian Callum, I love him to death, but he never believes in conspiracies.
Believes in no conspiracies.
But when we were talking about Osama bin Laden, one thing, he believed that there was a conspiracy on the Pakistani side and that they had had Osama bin Laden tucked away like near this big military base for years.
And they had him tucked away.
And they knew about it, but they kept their mouth shut.
Even though there was like a $30 million bounty on his head.
He believed the Pakistanis, that there was a conspiracy on their side, but that there was no conspiracy on the American side.
It's Hilarious.
His vision of it has to always be Fox News.
I love the guy.
Don't get me wrong, but it's a fascinating thing how he has this sort of.
I mean, it's great to have a guy like that on your side.
eddie bravo
I wonder if he thinks that.
Do you know if he thinks Tower 7 fell because of fires?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, he does.
eddie bravo
He thinks there were fires above them like that.
Wow.
joe rogan
He goes by the popular science reports, Hearst Publications that debunked everything, all the 9-11 things.
The real thing about 9-11, the first two towers don't freak me out as far as how did that possibly happen.
We've never seen a full jet airliner slam into a giant building like that before.
We've never seen it.
We've never seen two of them happen side by side.
We've never seen buildings that were that tall before.
Not only that, we've never seen buildings that were that tall and that were made in when?
What were they made in the 60s or something?
When the fuck did they make the World Trade Centers?
eddie bravo
I haven't seen it.
joe rogan
a long fucking time ago, right?
So these gigantic 110 foot, 110 story, I mean, they were incredibly big.
eddie bravo
80-some stories or something?
joe rogan
Just think about how 100, more than 100, more than 100.
Just think about how many fucking stacks of metal something like that is.
And what a cunt that is to clean up.
Imagine if that's the big conspiracy, that it was done because those fucking things were falling apart.
And the construction company is the one who did it.
They flew the planes in because they just didn't want to be responsible for what happened when everybody just fell on its own.
eddie bravo
They did the high wire from tower one to tower two.
He did a high walked around with the high wire.
joe rogan
I can't believe that.
Is that one of those flying Melendas?
eddie bravo
No, no, it's called Something on a Wire.
joe rogan
Dude, I can't watch that shit.
eddie bravo
That dude did it illegally.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
eddie bravo
He set it all up.
No one was going to let that shit happen.
They secretly went in and they measured all the shit.
They fucking made it happen.
How did they get the wire in between the two types of shit?
It was very complicated.
There was like five people involved.
Can you imagine that shit?
How crazy that guy is?
That guy tightroped across tower one to tower two.
They're like 100 stories or something.
How insane is that guy?
And he did it and it worked.
joe rogan
I'm pinching my dick together as you say this.
I'm like my legs.
eddie bravo
Okay, so you said basically we don't know, you know, the planes could have easily caused those skyscrapers to fall.
But the crazy thing is most people, most people don't know that there was three towers that went down.
Three.
Tower seven was a 47-story skyscraper that five different angles on camera went down like a control demolition.
I mean, what does that mean?
What can that possibly mean?
They control, it takes weeks to set up a control demo.
1,500 engineers and architects are all banding together and they all say that there's, that was a control demo.
How is that possible?
Why would you demo a skyscraper the same day those towers went down?
It doesn't make any sense.
There's a lot of unanswered questions.
There's some fishy ass shit going on.
joe rogan
It's unfortunate that there is so much fishy ass shit.
Because like when you look into the whole Pentagon missile thing, it's one of those things to me where someone starts talking to me about there's a missile hit the Pentagon.
It wasn't a plane.
It was a missile hit the Pentagon.
Just my instincts, my automatic instincts are, okay, this guy's kind of a crackpot.
This guy's a little bit crazy with the conspiracies.
I don't know what the fuck hit the Pentagon.
You don't either.
They said it was a missile.
They've never released any of the footage.
I saw the footage they released.
It was only like a couple frames.
I couldn't tell what the fuck it was.
I don't know.
Maybe it was a plane.
I don't know what it looks like when you take a picture of a plane that's going 500 miles an hour a foot off the ground.
I don't know what the fuck that looks like.
I don't know.
But when you find out that they really did have the accounting offices right there and that they really were trying to cover up some incredible missing money, how much money was it?
eddie bravo
2.3 trillion.
joe rogan
2 trillion.
2.3 trillion.
It was just announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before that there was a problem and that $2.3 trillion has essentially been swindled and they were going to get to the bottom of it.
Well, the office where they're going to get to the bottom of it gets hit by a fucking projectile that blows a hole through the side of the building and into the courtyard.
eddie bravo
Kills all the accountants.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
Isn't that incredible?
That is one of the greatest all-time, like, if you wanted to have like a conspiracy where there's actual evidence that makes you go, what the fuck?
unidentified
Could they be this crazy?
joe rogan
Could it be this crazy?
What happened to that 2.3 trillion?
Was it ever addressed again?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, do you know?
Do you know?
eddie bravo
What was that?
joe rogan
What happened to that money?
Was it ever addressed again?
eddie bravo
They don't have to.
Who's going to address it?
joe rogan
But it means that.
It had to be.
Even if you have an event like 9-11, after the dust settles, so to speak, no pun intended, you would think that after a while, people would go, oh yeah, that 2.3 trillion.
What's up with that?
eddie bravo
People know that some scary shit going on.
People know that whoever pulled that shit off, if you try to bust anybody out, you're going to die.
You're going to die.
So everyone just keeps the fucking mouth shut.
No, it was fishy.
You know?
And then the crazy thing is...
What is that?
joe rogan
That Andrew Breitbart, the guy who died really recently, is a very controversial journalist character.
He apparently had some video that he was going to release about Barack Obama.
It was Barack Obama.
And there was some video that was released of Barack Obama giving some sort of a speech when he was younger, when he was in college, I think when he was at Harvard.
And just, you know, it wasn't really that radical at all.
You know, it was like, and, but the word was that he was going to release something that was going to be damaging.
Well, the fucking dude wounds up dying, right?
No big deal.
He wasn't that healthy.
You look at him.
He's kind of big, fat guy, and he probably had some bad karma.
And, you know, there's a lot of wild shit going on.
Dude's life.
His ticker might have been, who knows, right?
So the guy dies.
Rest in peace.
And then after he dies, his fucking coroner dies by poisoning.
So after his coroner says that it's natural causes, then the coroner dies by poisoning.
And then you go, okay, what?
That's when you got to go, what?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't want to believe that the government or who the fucking COA or the Mussad or anybody decided to kill this journalist.
And then they paid off his coroner, and then the coroner winds up getting poisoned and killed.
Or they threatened him, or they use their influence, or whatever the fuck it was.
But when you hear a story like that, God damn, it makes you go, is anybody checking on this?
Who's looking into that?
That seems, that's a little, I would like to sit down with everybody involved in that sort of a situation.
If I was the mayor, the governor, whoever the fuck would be the one who would have jurisdiction over something like that, I'd like to be the guy who sits down.
What the fuck is going on here?
eddie bravo
Yeah, and the Pentagon thing, they're like, if a plane of a, like a 747, a commercial airline hit that, there have been lots of planes that went down.
And what you find is big, giant chunks of the fuselage and suitcases and seats and tennis shoes and legs and body parts.
That's what happens when a plane crashes.
There was none of that shit in the only pictures that they show, like the debunker sides, they show pictures, but like real tight shots of like a burned airplane tire and then they show next to it.
This is what it really looks like.
It's the same rim.
unidentified
Yeah, where is that?
eddie bravo
Where did you even take that picture?
Give me a shot from way back and show me all.
Show me that it's the Pentagon.
Why are you showing the evidence?
Our pictures up close.
You don't know where that is.
dark room and you're seeing like, oh, here it says United.
joe rogan
And the only shot...
By the way, it would be very easy if the government wanted to release Photoshop images or images of other pieces of wreckage and claim that they...
How many people were running around taking pictures of the lawn?
I mean, that's incredibly restricted.
So it's not like it was open season for journalists to come and check everything out with cameras.
So whatever photos they have, who the fuck knows what really happened?
eddie bravo
And then there's another photo where it's like you see the lawn and there's a little strip of like American Airlines.
Like, bitch, how easy.
Show me everything all in one big shot of everything.
Don't show me up close pictures.
joe rogan
You're telling me they did a piece of metal.
eddie bravo
Yeah, a piece of metal up close.
Are you telling me that that's evidence?
That's not evidence.
joe rogan
They must have had really detailed images of every single aspect.
If that was an attack, they would have detailed images of every single aspect of that thing that they could.
eddie bravo
And one of the main witnesses, the chick that was, the black chick that was on Jesse the Ventur show when they did that, she said there was no plane.
She walked, she thought it was the whole time it was a bomb because there was no evidence of any wreckage or seats or luggage or body.
joe rogan
I wonder what kind of wreckage you would get though.
You know, they have shown, they've taken fighter jets and they've remote controlled, flied them, remote flew them into gigantic blocks of concrete.
They like built this huge wall of concrete and they flew jets into it and the jets just incinerate.
It's really crazy.
But I think they're going like way faster and they're way smaller.
It's a different experience.
eddie bravo
If you look at 911 like a detective with an open mind, and you have to know what an open mind is first, look at it like a detective would, like you're a CSI.
Look at all the facts.
Don't just say, oh, those conspiracy kooks, conspiracy nuts.
That's not what a detective, you'd get fired right away.
joe rogan
Well, by the way, you've got to realize, folks, and this is absolutely 100% positive.
There are people that work for the government that are involved in what's called disinformation.
And one of the things that they will do, and this is a very smart tactic and very clever, they will mix truth with ridiculous bullshit that automatically makes you look like a kook.
So if you're reading something and it sounds really good and fascinating and then completely ridiculous all at the same time, like someone, then they throw something about alien bases on the moon and that they have the transcripts of these aliens communicating with people.
Then you go, okay, listen to this fucking crazy bitch.
Oh man, there ain't no aliens on the fucking moon communicating with Ronald Reagan.
What are you talking about?
But they'll mix some real truth about the CIA, some real truth about the way things are run.
And that way it diffuses all those real truths in people's minds.
You associate that shit with Bigfoot and psychics.
And it's just a bunch of crazy, silly thinking that as a full-grown man, I don't have time for.
You know, it becomes one of those things.
It's a really clever thing.
So when you hear a nutty story, when you hear someone who's saying something completely ridiculous, but also make sense at the same time, they're probably government agents.
eddie bravo
Who knows, right?
joe rogan
I've been accused of being a government agent.
I think that's amazing.
eddie bravo
That's awesome.
joe rogan
That's how they would do it.
They would train me up through the ranks of being a fucking comedian and then get me into cage fighting commentary and then recruit me to save America from the bad guys.
Can you imagine?
What kind of a government agent would I be telling everybody, go smoke some weed, relax, do jiu-jitsu, don't be greedy, don't be a cunt.
eddie bravo
Back to the original question.
joe rogan
There's a question?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
How do you remember?
How do you feel about every president being related and part of the bloodline?
joe rogan
If it is true, I didn't do good enough research.
eddie bravo
If you go to my YouTube page and go to my playlist, I got Illuminati playlist.
Go to the last one I added or the last two.
It's some deep shit, man.
I mean, the president's actually telling you he's related.
Like, George Bush is related to a bunch of people in politics now.
Like, hi, like guys like John Kerry and he's related to John Kerry?
Like the ninth cousins and shit.
unidentified
Really?
eddie bravo
Yeah, dude.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you, man.
Unless it's all bullshit.
I mean, it could be all bullshit.
This could be a total, huge hoax.
joe rogan
Well, I'm going to behind the matrix.com.
So let's see what they have to say about it.
eddie bravo
You got to see Obama saying it himself.
He's related to Dick Cheney, dude.
How crazy is that?
They're talking about it on a show.
That's not like some CGI shit with a different Obama.
Obama is saying he's related to Dick Cheney.
And then it goes deeper than that.
George W. Bush is related to like old kings and czars and shit.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Wow.
This is the, yeah, there are apparently 44 men who are president of the USA are related.
eddie bravo
How crazy is that?
Is that really true?
That's what I want to know.
Is this all bullshit?
joe rogan
The odds of all 43 presidents being related, and this has just randomly happened, are billions to one.
Huh.
eddie bravo
A billion to one.
Is that the number?
joe rogan
No, the guy's saying billions.
It's just someone's editorial, I believe.
I don't know if it's right, though.
Sources.
Okay, CNN.com.
eddie bravo
Google Illuminati Bloodline or YouTube Illuminati Bloodlines, dude.
joe rogan
And just everything is like Herman Kane related to people, too?
eddie bravo
They're all related according to this shit.
Most of the presidents are all related.
They're all part of the same bloodline.
How fucking nutty is that?
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
eddie bravo
It's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Can it really be true?
eddie bravo
If it's true, dude, we really are in the Matrix.
We really are.
joe rogan
We're living in a rowdy roddy piper movie.
eddie bravo
Totally, right?
That movie, Them or They or whatever.
joe rogan
They, was that it?
eddie bravo
You know what?
joe rogan
That was a fun movie, man.
eddie bravo
I haven't seen it, but one of my students, Dave Callahan, was telling me about it.
He said, I need to watch it.
joe rogan
Wow, this is so ridiculous.
eddie bravo
Are you finding out more information?
joe rogan
It's just, it's ridiculous.
It's just hard to believe.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
But when you see Obama, search Obama, Dick Cheney, video, cousins.
Obama cousin, Dick Cheney, and then you'll see him talking about it.
joe rogan
This is ridiculous.
This is really weird, man.
The, yeah.
Eddie's coming over to take a look.
It's just different websites who point to that.
I still honestly can't say that.
I don't really know it's true.
I don't think you should be just reading something online and spouting out that's true.
I've done that too many times in the past and been completely wrong.
unidentified
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
I know.
I know.
That's why I'm going to send you a link right now.
joe rogan
Maybe ask Siri.
Why don't you ask Siri?
See what Siri says.
eddie bravo
Siri?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Siri.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
See what that bitch knows.
Put her to use right now.
eddie bravo
I'm going to find the video for you.
joe rogan
I'm going to call Siri.
eddie bravo
Okay, here it is.
I'm going to send you the link.
I could send it to you and you'll be able to play it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Okay.
joe rogan
What is it?
Wait a minute.
You'll send it to me.
How?
eddie bravo
To your email.
joe rogan
No, no, I don't have that set up like that.
What do you want me to play?
eddie bravo
Just the beginning of, I want you to hear Obama talking about how he's cousins with Dick Cheney.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't even want to hear that.
No, he's sick.
eddie bravo
Dude, he says it.
joe rogan
I believe it.
So he's somehow or another, some distant cousin with Dick Cheney.
eddie bravo
Yeah, but then it gets deeper.
It's almost like someone dug that out and he has to talk about it and he has to admit it, but it goes deeper.
They're all related.
That's what it's saying, dude.
Everybody's related.
Like, George Bush is related to Obama.
They're all part of the royal bloodline that goes back to ancient Sumer.
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
Yes.
eddie bravo
Yes.
joe rogan
This is some ridiculous apocalyptic shit.
eddie bravo
rulers it's just like a Hollywood club right the promoters when they're when their new club dies just like the ancient Samaria died when they're Obama and Dick Cheney are eighth cousins.
unidentified
Yo.
eddie bravo
And look at, type in George W. Bush cousins president.
joe rogan
Did you hear what Obama said when they gave them the revelation?
He goes, every family has a black sheep.
Boom, son.
Suck it.
He's for sure.
He's for sure the most gangster president of all time.
He said some gangster shit.
Like Matt Damon said that he was disappointed in him.
And then, you know, he does those president's press speeches where he does, essentially does stand-up.
And he goes, hey, Matt, I saw your last movie.
Right back at you.
Like, the president said your last movie sucked, dude.
eddie bravo
And you know what's even crazier is that Brad Pitt and Angelina Jali are all in the mix, too.
They're all related to the presidents.
joe rogan
Well, did you see Jimmy Kimmel doing a White House speech or doing stand-up at the White House?
Or whoever the fuck it was.
I mean, Newt Gingrich was in the audience, Obama was in the audience, whatever the fuck official name of the gathering was.
He started talking about marijuana legalization and that it's real people care about weed laws.
It's true.
And that's who I said.
Who said that?
Jimmy Kimmel.
eddie bravo
Oh, yeah, I heard about that.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel is, it was, you know, it was a really fascinating moment, man.
He's a brave motherfucker for doing that.
And he was, and he's goddamn right, you know, and he did what you're supposed to do if you get an opportunity to do something like that, where it's going to be on television.
He was respectful, you know, but he was still funny, you know, when he was doing a stand-up.
And then when he had a point about marijuana, he just made the point, man, that real people care about these laws.
And he didn't go crazy with it and didn't go too far with it.
But he was, he was, you know, it's fucking true.
It's gross.
eddie bravo
How crazy is it that marijuana was a conspiracy?
joe rogan
It still is.
It still fucking is.
The most amazing thing in the 2012, there's people out there that will list all sorts of negative effects that it can have.
Listen, folks, fucking everything you do can have a negative effect if you get crazy with it.
We're drinking coffee here.
Coffee can fucking kill you.
If you're crazy and you're one of those dudes who just wants to drink coffee all day and just get gacked out of your mind on Venti Starbucks, you could have a fucking heart attack.
You could like, you could stimulate yourself to death.
People die from caffeine overdose.
That's an actual, you know, fairly regular occurrence.
I think there's something like 10,000 people die every year from aspirin and caffeine together combined.
Something along those lines.
Either way, point is, it's the best sign ever of a corrupt government that this magical plant, you know, and people say, oh, you fucking pothead, you fucking queer, with all your magic, what do you want?
unidentified
You weed, you fucking baby, you can't survive without weed.
joe rogan
Those people need weed, first of all, more than anybody, right?
eddie bravo
Yeah, definitely.
joe rogan
And second of all, you don't understand what this really is.
This is a potential life-enhancing substance that is just naturally growing around people.
And it's been with us for thousands of years.
And we have some sort of a physical symbiotic relationship.
We actually have cannabinoid receptors in our brain that receive cannabinoids both from cannabis and from exercise.
You're going to have to do that.
That's a conspiracy theory.
That's just cannabinoids.
eddie bravo
That's a conspiracy theory.
unidentified
It is.
eddie bravo
People won't believe that.
What science are you reading?
joe rogan
Humans, and by the way, by the way, the benefits aren't even psychoactive.
One of the best ways to use marijuana is to actually eat it, to eat the fresh leaves, to eat the leaves and the plants.
It's incredibly healthy for you.
It has zero psychoactive effect because it's not the only way you have to smoke it or you just have To cook it into an edible form and then eat it.
But to just eat marijuana, it doesn't give you the psychedelic effects.
But what it does do, it's a really incredibly healthy plant.
It has a fuckload of amino acids.
It contains a lot of protein.
Hemp seeds are really good for it.
And they fucking taste good.
Like, I like eat hemp seeds all the time.
Like, I'll eat them as snacks.
I'll be sitting there watching TV and I'll have like hemp seed.
And it's incredible amounts of protein.
It's really healthy and clean, you know, and it's illegal.
It makes the best paper, makes the best clothes.
You can make fucking plywood out of it.
It's virtually indestructible.
It's amazing.
It's lighter than wood.
It grows quicker than wood.
It's stronger than wood.
It's an amazing, almost an alien being.
It's almost like something there's, it's not like, it's one of the most useful plants on earth.
Aside from the psychoactive effects of it, when you add the psychoactive effects, it's the number one most useful plant on earth.
Most for sure.
Because it actually can change people's lives and make people feel better.
It actually gives you a good feeling.
Like everybody needs that.
That's like one of the most important things we could ever have.
Something in our life that gives us a good feeling.
Something in our life that makes us a little more humble.
Something in our life that makes us a little more aware.
Something in your life that makes you a little more appreciative.
You know?
These poor fucks.
Poor fuck.
Don't you feel bad for people that don't want people to smoke weed?
eddie bravo
I understand.
I wasn't into it till I was 28, so I totally understand where they're coming from.
I just, you know, I don't want to push anybody into it or anything, but if I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing and let people know that, you know, most of the important stuff that I do, almost all of it, the important stuff, I do medicated with the sacred plant.
I feel if I taught a class and I wasn't medicated, that I would be cheating out my students.
I'm way more passionate.
I'm way more passionate when I teach, when I'm stoned, way more.
Can you imagine?
Like doing comedy and you don't have a little weed in you.
You feel like you feel like you're at 85 almost.
joe rogan
Sometimes, no.
I like doing sober shows too, but I smoke so much weed.
Am I ever really sober?
You know, because it's adjusted the way I act even when I'm sober.
eddie bravo
Like playing music, not stoned.
I couldn't even imagine that.
And when I get in my car and I got like a, when I'm getting, when I get in my car, I'm just freshly baked on my way to jujitsu, man.
That's when I'm on fire.
That's when like all my important decisions and ideas come together on my way to jiu-jitsu because I'm so happy that I'm going to show up to a place with a bunch of my boys there and we're going to practice strangling each other.
And whatever music I've, I got to hear music loud as hell on the way to jujitsu.
Loud, man.
You know, like a latest, like something I'm just working on or like a new album I just bought.
Like, you know, lately, man, just bass nectar up my ass, man.
That motherfucker is on fire.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're supposed to do a podcast with him.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
End of May, like that Memorial Day weekend, he either said Monday he's free or that Friday.
So it's up to you Friday or Monday.
joe rogan
So he loves you, dude.
eddie bravo
He loves you.
joe rogan
That's all.
eddie bravo
He just wants to hang out and talk to me.
joe rogan
I want to hang out and talk to him too, dude.
He said, let's just have a conversation.
We don't even have to record this.
I'm like, oh man, don't deprive people of this cool conversation.
It's going to be fun.
He's a fascinating guy.
eddie bravo
He's so looking forward to it.
joe rogan
I am too, man.
eddie bravo
Incredible.
That's why I keep emailing you and going, dude, he's like asking me, like, dude, is this going to happen?
Is this going to happen?
joe rogan
I can't tell you how weird that is for me.
You know, it's weird.
eddie bravo
With it, like, you got celebrities.
joe rogan
Yeah, that people want to come on the podcast.
I mean, it's a weird thing that people are trying to do it.
But it's amazing, though.
I couldn't be happier, man.
This is the most fulfilled, like, as far as what I'm putting out.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, the most fulfilled I've ever felt.
eddie bravo
Yeah, people, I mean, like, he doesn't want to talk about music.
He's like, dude, I just want to talk about the universe.
joe rogan
You might want to talk about music too.
Whatever.
I love when people say that, like, I'm going to get Mac Danzig on the podcast.
I really like Mac Danzig.
I've been meaning to contact him so he'll hear about this or reach out to him.
He's a fascinating dude to me.
Really interesting guy.
He's a vegan.
And he does it because of animal rights, like the way he feels about pets and animals and factory farming.
But what's interesting is he goes, I'll talk about anything but MMA.
He's like anything but MMA.
eddie bravo
Oh, dude, can you imagine how these UFC fighters, they must be so sick and tired of talking about fucking fights.
joe rogan
And especially after training twice a fucking day, six days a week.
eddie bravo
Yeah, and I just want to say this to all my 10 planet heads.
I apologize for every interview I do where I'm just repeating myself.
I know like my hardcore fans are like, oh, he's going to use that analogy again.
Oh, that fucking story again.
You know what I mean?
I just answer the questions they give to me.
I know I could be repetitive.
I apologize, but you got to understand there's always new guys just getting into it, getting into 10th plan.
And I got to go back and give the history again.
I got to talk about the music.
You know that.
There's a lot of people out there.
Oh, here he goes with the music again.
I'm sorry, but I got to talk about the music.
joe rogan
You don't really need to defend yourself?
eddie bravo
No, it's just, I just want to let people know that, because if I overheard someone saying, dude, that guy fucking just says the same shit over and over, that wouldn't make me feel good.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's part of the whole thing.
You've got to realize that every time you talk, it's probably going to be the first time a fuckload of people hear you.
And if there's an important thing that you have to get out, important part of your philosophy, an important part of how you got to where you are, you have to say it.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Unfortunately.
Until you become like Marilyn Manson.
Yeah.
To become like super dope face.
eddie bravo
Yeah, totally, totally.
But I'm always going to pump the music, man.
Always, I got the smoke serpent shirt on.
Smoke serpent's planned this Saturday for my birthday.
joe rogan
Yeah, where is that?
It moved, right?
eddie bravo
Yeah, I moved to Dim Mock Studios, man.
It's a way better place.
joe rogan
Where is it?
eddie bravo
Way better place.
It's in Hollywood on 1643 Cosmo.
It's a half a block south of Hollywood Boulevard.
It's an awesome place.
DJ Aoki, that's his place.
It's called Dim Mock Studios.
joe rogan
His name is DJ Aoki?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Shinya?
eddie bravo
Yeah, she had a mouse.
He's huge.
He's huge.
joe rogan
Really?
He's a famous DJ?
eddie bravo
Huge.
A million followers, that kind of thing.
joe rogan
Famous DJs.
They become famous without me even knowing they exist.
And then I find them when they have like a hundred million YouTube views.
Like, I'll go and look at one of their videos on YouTube, and I'm like, what?
This has 100 million views.
eddie bravo
Yeah, what the fuck?
joe rogan
How did I miss this?
Whizzed right behind me.
eddie bravo
Yeah, he's huge, man.
He owns that place.
It's going to be my birthday celebration.
My birthday is actually May 15th, but that's on a Tuesday.
Can't have a party on a Tuesday.
So me and my girlfriend actually have our birthdays two days apart.
We're going to celebrate it dual thing Saturday night.
Everybody's welcome.
joe rogan
Uh-oh.
eddie bravo
No cover.
joe rogan
You fucked up right there.
eddie bravo
Everyone's welcome.
joe rogan
No cover.
You said the two craziest things you could ever say on the internet.
What?
Everybody's welcome and no cover.
eddie bravo
No, I want it to be packed.
joe rogan
Oh, it's going to be packed.
eddie bravo
I want it to be packed.
We go on at 10 o'clock, so get there early.
joe rogan
You're going to get a crazy crowd, dude.
eddie bravo
I hope so.
joe rogan
I hope so.
eddie bravo
And if you don't know what my band sounds like, you can go on iTunes and just iTunes Smoke Serpent.
I got two songs up on iTunes.
Jiu-Jitsu is one song and Dropped is another song.
There's a video for Jiu-Jitsu as well.
You could find that on YouTube.
Smoke Serpent this Saturday, my birthday.
Everyone's welcome.
The BJ JJ Expo is this Saturday day.
That's when Nick Diaz and Brawligo Steema go at it.
You could go watch that.
And just remember, the after party is at Dimok Studios on Saturday.
joe rogan
That shit's going to be crazy.
You're going to have a bunch of people with cats on their t-shirts.
eddie bravo
Cats.
joe rogan
The Death Squad cat.
eddie bravo
Beautiful, beautiful.
Also, my rapper, well, one of my rappers, his name is Campella.
His name is Eric Cruz.
He's one of my brown belts.
He's awesome, man.
He's an amazing rapper.
unidentified
And he's really good at jiu-jitsu, too.
eddie bravo
He's one of my best friends.
I love him to death, man.
He actually fights MMA too.
He's fighting May 20th.
It's on a Sunday, May 20th at the Nokia Center.
This is a third amateur fight.
He's undefeated as an amateur.
There's a show called University of MMA.
It's just a badass amateur card.
Like three or four 10th planet fighters are fighting, and he's one of them.
His name is Eric Cruz.
He raps for Smoke Serpent.
May 20th, Nokia Center.
It's on a Sunday, so you don't have to worry about missing Strike Force.
I think Strike Force is the day before.
And it's the debut also on that amateur show.
The first three fights are going to be Combat Jiu-Jitsu.
It's a sport that I started with Turi Altavia.
He runs University of MMA.
Combat Jiu-Jitsu.
It's a brand new sport.
It's going to take a, people really, they're kind of scared to do it.
They really don't know what to think of it.
But really, Combat Jiu-Jitsu is, it's right in the middle.
It's in between MMA and just straight grappling.
It's in between.
That was a big hole.
It's jiu-jitsu with punches on the ground.
When you're standing, it's just wrestling.
But as soon as one person is on the ground, you can start punching.
So it's, you could either look at it as, you know, if you're looking at it from the MMA world, it's pussy MMA.
Like, why can't they're, they're too scared to strike standing?
You could look at it as super tame MMA.
But if you're coming from the jujitsu side, it's extreme jiu-jitsu.
Imagine watching Abu Dhabi and they allowed punches on the ground, how brutal and exciting that would be.
You know, it's all your perspective.
And it's going to, you know, since we're piggybacking on the University of MMA show, you know, it's the first three fights.
We're opening up the show.
We're just getting into it.
We just got it sanctioned.
We're just starting it.
We're just testing it out.
Ultimately, Combat Jiu-Jitsu doesn't look good in a cage.
It doesn't.
It actually looks better like Professional Submission League, Rico Ciparelli's old show, that Hicks and Gracie tournament, where just, it's like blood sport, just a flat mat, just like Abu Dhabi, a big flat mat.
That's where combat jiu-jitsu is going to shine.
It's going to take a while.
joe rogan
Are they going to be able to elbow each other?
eddie bravo
No, no.
Elbows are the body.
There's basically amateur MMA rules on the ground.
You could punch to the face, no elbows to the face.
joe rogan
I wish they would find a way to pad elbows.
You know, the real problem with elbows, in my opinion, is not them as a blow.
I like elbows.
They're badass.
But then, you know, then you'd have to like, but you'd have to pad shins too.
It's really kind of, then they become silly.
But what I keep thinking is that elbows are so pointy.
They're so good at cutting people open.
eddie bravo
Dude, how about fucking Alan Belcher's wicked elbows?
joe rogan
Dude, Alan Belcher is a holy shit.
eddie bravo
Shit.
joe rogan
If you didn't see that fight, sorry, spoiler alert, shut this off real quick.
If you DVR'd this and you haven't seen it yet, you get three seconds, two.
eddie bravo
Oh, man.
It's Monday.
joe rogan
Dude.
eddie bravo
Fuck them.
joe rogan
Fuck them.
eddie bravo
It's Monday, dude.
It's on Fox.
joe rogan
Yeah, watch that shit.
eddie bravo
Dude, Alan Belcher.
joe rogan
He played footsies with Paul Harris.
I couldn't even believe it.
eddie bravo
No, he didn't play Footsies.
joe rogan
But he did a little.
eddie bravo
Maybe you had a bad angle because you weren't in the beginning.
It looked to you from where you were watching.
And if you watch it again, watch a commentary.
It looked like you thought they were going for leg locks, but right away, right from the get-go, he pulled them right into the truck.
It was like a professional.
joe rogan
What I meant by he's on the ground while Paul Harris is attempting leg locks.
That's playing footsies in my opinion.
eddie bravo
So when you're caught in the truck, the dude doesn't have any leg locks on you.
joe rogan
Well, he did try a few.
eddie bravo
No, there's no leg locks there.
joe rogan
Didn't he roll a couple times for heel hooks?
eddie bravo
When he started attacking his legs, that's when he spun out of the truck and started.
When he got away, that's when he went after the leg locks.
But while in the truck, he was lost.
He didn't know what he was doing.
He was just defending.
There was no leg locks.
joe rogan
He looked so confident.
It was almost weird.
It was almost like he couldn't believe that.
I mean, Pajaris, like when he got taken down, like, what is this guy going to do to me on the ground?
eddie bravo
He didn't take him down.
Pajaris took Alan Belcher.
joe rogan
Pajaris shot, took Alan Belcher down.
eddie bravo
Yes?
unidentified
Yes.
eddie bravo
Bahara shot, took Alan Belcher down.
joe rogan
And then Alan Belcher laced in and rolled and got the...
It was so crazy to watch.
And for people who don't know, this is an unbelievably rare position in MMA.
Super common around 10th Planet in Jiu-Jitsu, but really rare.
In fact, so rare that only one guy was ever submitted with a twister in the UFC.
And that is the Korean zombie, Chansung Jung, submitted Leonard Garcia with it.
eddie bravo
But there was no battle from the truck with Korean zombie.
Korean zombie went from being on Leonard's back right directly into the twister.
There was no battle from the truck.
joe rogan
By the way, the truck, for folks who don't know what the fuck we're talking about, it's a position where you have one leg tied up of your opponent with both of your legs.
eddie bravo
It's kind of like you have his back, but you're at a perpendicular angle.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you have what's essentially a lockdown from underneath of this guy's leg.
So you got his leg completely stiffened out, and you're sort of controlling him with it.
It's a great position that a lot of people don't sort of capitalize on.
And it was a rare moment on CBS, or excuse me, on Fox.
Did I say CBS?
eddie bravo
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Fox is going to be mad.
It's a rare moment.
It's because I was trying to correct my earlier mistake about Jake Shields submitting Nick Thompson because it was on Elite XC, not Strike Force.
I kept that shit in the back of my head all this time.
Fox.
So he's on Fox.
So when he did it, when he went into that position, man, I was like, I can't even believe.
First of all, I couldn't believe he was.
Someone described it best on the underground.
They said it was like a dude wrestling with an alligator and kicking his ass.
They're like, yeah, what the fuck?
He's going to rip your arm off.
He's going to rip you.
It really was like that.
But then all of a sudden, he was like kicking the alligator's ass.
It's crazy.
eddie bravo
And then he escaped the truck after like a minute.
He escaped.
And then he started attacking Alan Belcher's legs.
And his leg locks are so scary.
Your commentary.
Have you heard it yet?
Have you went back to it?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
eddie bravo
Dude, you got to listen to your commentary.
You're like Alan Belcher's mother.
You're so worried about him.
joe rogan
I should tell people, I've had three knee operations.
So when a guy like Paul Harris is going for a heel hook, I fucking panic.
eddie bravo
I feel it.
joe rogan
I feel that shit.
unidentified
You were telling Alan Belcher to go, run, spin out.
eddie bravo
You can make it.
It was hilarious, dude.
It was hilarious.
You were so passionate about it.
You were so worried about it because Alan Belcher is a friend of ours.
He's been to Legends a couple times.
joe rogan
And by the way, you know, Eddie and I actually had a conversation about this fight before, and we were like, you know, what do you think is going to happen in that fight?
And like, look, I love watching Paul Harris crush dudes, but I love Alan Belcher, too.
I'm just hoping to see a good experience.
I'm hoping to see a good fight.
I never would have predicted that it would have gone like that, where Alan Belcher was so comfortable on the ground with him, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
He brought in Dean Lister and Daniel Marai, high-level jiu-jitsu players, and especially Dean Lister because he's always been known on the West Coast as a leg lock master.
joe rogan
He submitted Kakareko with a leg lock.
eddie bravo
He won absolute Nabu Dhi.
But as far as straight leg locks go, man.
joe rogan
Dean Lister's tough to beat.
Super technical.
eddie bravo
Top five.
joe rogan
Tough in the world.
Super, super technical.
eddie bravo
So Alan Belcher, being the smart guy that he is, he brings, you know, he's fighting Paul Harris.
Shit, you better bring in someone like that.
You better bring in fucking Josh Barnett.
You better bring in dudes that rip legs off on the dailies.
joe rogan
Alan Belcher has a very high degree of don't give a fuck, too.
Alan Belcher can fight, man.
You have to have so much confidence to just throw yourself at that guy like in a ground war and come out of it on top and stay in his guard and beat the fuck out of him from his world.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that's the first time I ever had a conversation with Alan Belcher.
He beat the shit out of somebody and I'd never talked to him before.
And I'm pretty sure, you know, all those UFCs, eight straight years of UFCs, I get them all mixed up, but I'm pretty sure it was in London or something like that.
It was at an after party at the bar.
He passed by me and we kind of like caught eyes and we never talked to each other before.
And then our eyes locked and I said, dude.
joe rogan
Sounds like a romance, bro.
It's like the notebook.
eddie bravo
It was like an awkward thing in the beginning.
Because he really didn't say much.
I did all the talking.
I just said, dude, I mean, I watch fucking fights like a motherfucker.
I work for the show.
I've never seen anybody with fire.
Like, he has this fire inside of him, this fearlessness.
And that's what I noticed from Alan, like way back, that he's so fearless.
He doesn't give a fuck, you know?
And at that point, you know, he wasn't known as the greatest striker in the world.
And he definitely wasn't known as the ultimate submission guy.
He was a well-rounded guy who was probably best at striking.
And man, with that fearlessness, for me, I just thought, man, if he just got really good at jiu-jitsu, fuck.
And then you add that fearlessness on top of it, fuck.
joe rogan
Dude, he fucked up that guy on the ground.
That is so crazy.
It was so crazy to watch.
And his stand-up is nasty.
Duke Rufus is such a good trainer, man.
Duke Rufus is so fucking technical.
You know, I've worked out with him a few times now.
And when you work out with a guy and he sort of explains his philosophy for teaching this and why you're doing that, there's very few guys who could do it as good as Duke does.
And he's just a really good guy, too.
And all of his guys, they're like Alan.
They're cool guys.
It trickles down from the top.
eddie bravo
They're fearless.
You know what?
I broke down.
I don't know if you've seen this.
I released it earlier this morning.
I did a video breakdown, a technical breakdown of exactly what Alan Belcher went through in the truck.
I really didn't get into the leg locks much or anything, but you can go on YouTube and just punch in.
Eddie Bravo breaks down Alan Belcher's twister attempts or whatever.
If you're interested in knowing exactly how it went down, I broke it down, man.
So it's out there on YouTube.
I just released it today.
Anyways, what about Pat Berry and LeVar Johnson?
Holy Jesus.
joe rogan
That was scary, man.
That was scary.
That was scary.
That guy hits fucking hard.
First of all, I couldn't believe that Pat Berry not only got him down, but mounted him and then hopped over to side control.
I was like, whoa, what's going on here, man?
I was like, what if we see Pat Barry fucking spin on a samurai or some shit?
What if we see Pat Barry do the ninja and take his back?
Can you imagine if Pat Barry just got like wicked good at submitting guys in the ground?
He's a strong motherfucker, dude.
Pat Barry is strong as shit.
When Christian Moorcraft had him down in his last fight, that's a big dude, that Moorcraft.
He's a big motherfucker.
And he had Barry down.
Barry escaped, got back up to his feet, got away from his submission, escaped, and got back up to his feet.
He never used to be able to do that before.
But he got fucking caught against that cage with that big LaVar Johnson, man.
eddie bravo
That guy hit so hard.
joe rogan
You know, Joe Diaz said it best.
He said he was like, oh, no, it wasn't Joe Diaz.
It was Tommy Jr.
Tommy Jr. said it best.
He's like, he's like old school Ernie Shavers.
Like the way he's throwing these bombs.
I mean, he's just a power puncher, man.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that was ugly to watch, man.
Pat Berry is such a nice guy.
You know, it's like, I don't, he, it was like a Tommy Morrison beating.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's when he fought Ray Mercer?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
Yeah, you want to Google an awesome boxing match?
Tommy Morrison versus Ray Mercer.
That's one of the most brutal beatings ever.
joe rogan
Dude, have you seen Tommy Morrison now?
eddie bravo
He has HIV, right?
joe rogan
Oh, dude.
You haven't seen shit.
You haven't seen Tommy Morrison.
eddie bravo
What is he really skinny?
joe rogan
Oh, my God, dude.
You wouldn't even believe it.
First of all, he looks like he's like they just grabbed him from under a bridge, pulled the needle out of his arm, and just washed him down and put him in front of a camera.
I mean, he couldn't look any more unhealthy.
eddie bravo
Wow.
joe rogan
And it's so sad to listen to him talk because, you know, at one point in time, you know, you go back to like when he was on Rocky, dude, he was a movie star.
Okay.
This fucking guy was with Sylvester Stallone in a movie, and he plays Tommy Gunn.
He's out there knocking people.
He's the fucking star of the movie next to Sylvester Stallone.
It's goddamn Tommy Millson.
eddie bravo
All I remember is that movie was so bad that when they do Rocky marathons, they always leave part five out.
Did you notice that?
They never get the five.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
How quick?
It's almost like it wasn't.
How he did Rocky Six.
joe rogan
He did Rocky Six.
He's so out of his fucking mind.
He's got to be out of his fucking mind.
eddie bravo
What are you looking for?
joe rogan
I'm looking for Tommy Morrison interview.
You just have to see.
It doesn't even look real, man.
It doesn't even look real.
It's scary.
eddie bravo
Nobody was more nervous than him fighting.
That was always something he had to overcome.
Before every one of his fights, they talk about it in interviews, like the pre-fight stuff is how nervous will he be and will it affect his cardio?
Right?
joe rogan
No shit, right?
Yeah, that poor guy, man, he always had a hard time.
eddie bravo
An amazing left hook for a white heavyweight.
He was the last great white heavyweight, not including the Europeans.
I don't call them regular whites.
Those aren't regular whites.
I'm talking about like Western.
joe rogan
You mean like the Klitschkos?
The Klitskos?
unidentified
They don't count.
eddie bravo
Why not?
Russian, that doesn't count.
Are they Armenian or something?
Lithuanian?
joe rogan
No, they're Russian.
They're straight.
They're from.
Why do I want to say Ukrainian?
I want to say Ukrainian.
I might be wrong, though.
unidentified
I guess that's white as fuck, huh?
joe rogan
Yeah, I would say that's white as fuck.
Yeah, giant white people, man.
That's what they are.
eddie bravo
Okay, okay.
So, all right, all right, all right.
American whites, let's say that.
The last great American white heavyweight was Tommy Morrison, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
There wasn't anybody else.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Jerry Cooney was Jerry Cooney before him and Tex Cobb before him, and that's it.
joe rogan
I remember when I was in high school, I wanted Jerry Cooney to beat Larry Holmes just because he was white.
Because I couldn't believe, because this is when I was fighting, I couldn't believe how bad white dudes would get their asses kicked.
Oh, I was always rooting for white guys like Bobby Chez.
eddie bravo
Because you feel sorry for him.
joe rogan
Loved Bobby Chez because he was super intelligent.
He was a member of Mensa.
You remember when Bobby Chez used to do?
I don't know why Bobby Chez stopped doing boxing commentary, but he was my all-time favorite.
He was my favorite.
I love him.
Because, first of all, he was the real deal.
He's a fucking animal.
Bobby Chez was a fucking woo.
eddie bravo
What about Vinny Pasienza when he fought Roy Jones Jr.?
joe rogan
Sound man.
eddie bravo
Remember he didn't touch him?
He went a whole round without touching Roy Jones Jr.
joe rogan
Yeah, let me see if this shit works.
I think it should work.
Let me see.
Do you hear that?
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm going to show.
This is a really recent Tommy Morrison shit.
unidentified
*music*
joe rogan
Can you hear that?
eddie bravo
I can hear it.
joe rogan
Is it going to hear me through the headphones though?
eddie bravo
It's not really coming through the headphones, Matt.
joe rogan
It should be.
Okay, this is.
unidentified
Here we go.
Here he is.
joe rogan
Look at him.
unidentified
I own you.
That's the addiction for me.
joe rogan
Okay, it was working, and then it stopped.
eddie bravo
He looks like the little kid's father on Freddy Got Fingered.
The little kid that always gets fucked up.
His father.
unidentified
My mother.
My mother was a stay-at-home mom.
joe rogan
I'm going to put it on my head.
unidentified
And so I had to quit school.
And I was only out of school for a year.
You know, when I was a senior in high school, which was 1988, my mother wanted me to fight in the Kansas City Gold Gloves, which is a turn I fit on my own.
eddie bravo
Damn, we're exactly the same age.
I graduated in 1988, too.
unidentified
I'd love to, you know.
And once I started getting into that, you know, that old mindset kicks in where I was like, I'm just totally focused on it.
And, you know, the fighting is what I love.
You know, I fight, drop five.
I mean, it's just what I was put here to do.
Whatever it takes, you know, to win.
That's what I'm willing to do.
joe rogan
What the fuck, man?
unidentified
Wow.
eddie bravo
He looks like he's 65.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
I feel bad for him.
eddie bravo
He's 42 years old.
joe rogan
That dude at one point in time, first of all, must have been getting just train loads of pussy.
Must have been just stopping off at his house.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's the first guy ever to get HIV from straight sex.
I mean, who knows?
I mean, the other dude must have just wore his dick out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then he went crazy and got like chest implants.
Have you seen that?
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
For folks who don't know, just Google that.
Take a look at that.
You want to see what's really crazy.
A guy got implants in his chest.
unidentified
This thing is making noise here.
I don't know.
joe rogan
The guy got implants like stripper implants to make his boobs bigger.
If that's not a sure sign of you losing your fucking marbles, somebody needs to pull you aside and go, dude, what are you smoking?
What's going on here, man?
You're going to, what?
You're going to get a boob job?
Yeah, man.
unidentified
You know what I'm thinking?
joe rogan
Ditty's just getting sexy now.
Just pip up my titties.
Tired of doing bench.
He just got tired of benching.
They're tired of benching.
Kept a lot of his other muscles, but just not.
I don't enjoy my titties.
Probably just missed having full tits, Having good manly stuff.
eddie bravo
If I got really big, you think girls, there'd be some girls that were into fake boobies?
I like fake packs.
joe rogan
I don't think a man is allowed to pull off fake shit.
That's why girls could wear wigs, girls could wear hair weaves and fake eyelashes, and they can have fake teeth.
They can have everything connected.
As long as they look good.
As long as it looks good.
I mean, I did a bit in my recent special about how fake tits confused a lot of people because everyone knows that they're fake.
There's no confusion whatsoever that they're fake.
It's the worst trick ever because it's a trick that everybody knows.
There's an incision.
There's a bag of water.
They stuffed it inside and stretched the skin out and then stitched it all up.
And we don't care.
We go, yeah, I like it.
I like how it makes them stick out.
That shape is so primitive.
It's so primally satisfying.
When a girl has a great body and a girl has nice tits, and they do not have to be big.
It doesn't bother me.
I like small tits.
It doesn't bother me at all.
As long as she has a nice body, like a girl with a nice ass is like, it's so much more important than fake boobs.
eddie bravo
When I take a shower, my girlfriend's hair extensions are all like hanging in the shower.
And I don't give a shit.
joe rogan
We wouldn't care.
eddie bravo
I call it Brittany.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if you had hair extensions?
eddie bravo
Oh, man.
joe rogan
And if you ever got in a fight with a chick, she'll call you on that shit.
eddie bravo
How about celebrities?
joe rogan
Oh, you're not insecure.
How about your fucking hair extensions?
Huh?
eddie bravo
How about celebrities that wear toupes and everyone knows it's toupee and they just can't stop?
Yeah, like Burt Reynolds.
He'll like joke about it.
joe rogan
I don't think he can do anything.
I think Burt Reynolds is at this point where it's become like a Joan River sort of a thing, where it's just, he's off the tracks and into the woods.
She's nuts.
eddie bravo
It's got to the point where, like...
joe rogan
He's constantly getting his face pulled back.
Did you ever see Kenny Rogers?
eddie bravo
Back when he had his...
Dude, he was old in the 70s.
joe rogan
Well, he got a lot of crazy plastic surgery.
Oh, did he?
Now he doesn't even look like himself anymore.
He looks like a totally different human being.
eddie bravo
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
That's a weird thing.
You got to let it go.
When your face starts falling apart, you just got to take up fishing.
You got to find yourself a hobby, man.
You know, and take it from me.
A guy who had hair transplants, it was one of the dumbest things I ever did.
I thought I was going to be able to fix my hair loss with surgery.
Not even considering the fact that it leaves this big chunk of meat scar in the back of your head.
They take hair out of here and move it up here.
It's ridiculous.
It scars you for life.
You can never make that decision and go away.
eddie bravo
The infomercials are a fucking killer, though.
joe rogan
Well, you know what?
eddie bravo
He has three chicks.
He's in a pool.
He's got a full head of hair.
joe rogan
It can work for some people.
So for some people, it's good.
It was good for me for a while.
But the problem is, I do a joke about it saying that it's like moving a bunch of really healthy people into a neighborhood where everybody's dying.
Because that's what it's really like.
All the other hair starts falling out, too.
Like it's destined.
Most of it's destined to fall out.
You know, most people in my family, my mom, said they're like kind of half fish bald, like bald over here, a little bit of bald over there.
It's going.
It's going to go.
It's going to go.
So if you patch up the spots where it's gone a little bit, and then you're looking pretty good for a couple of years, and then the other spots start falling off.
And then what are you going to do?
You're going to keep implanting hair there, asshole?
You know, after a while, it becomes embarrassing.
It becomes stupid.
It becomes like a little trap that you've forced yourself into.
Like, oh, I got this trap.
I got to take care of this gross hair now.
I got to figure out how to fucking make it look like there's more of it than it is.
eddie bravo
I should be totally bald by now.
joe rogan
You say that, man, but I think you're wrong.
I think.
I stopped it.
eddie bravo
I stopped it, man.
I was so worried about my hair because growing up, I had long hair, and that was back when long hair got you mad, pussy, and it was everything to me.
I would have nightmares about having short hair, you know.
And I was 19.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
eddie bravo
I'll never forget my aunt.
joe rogan
You used to have nightmares of having short hair.
eddie bravo
Yeah, yeah.
I used to have nightmares of having a hair hair.
joe rogan
When I met Eddie, he used to wear like a Hindu wrap.
Eddie used to, he used to do jiu-jitsu with like his hair would be like tied up in some fucking scuba diving outfit.
eddie bravo
Yeah, I used to do it.
I used to tie it.
I used to tie, my hair used to go down to my waist.
I would like double up the ponytail.
And then I used to wear just a bandana, bro, like fucking axle rose.
And then I would put ear guards over it just to hold the bandana in place.
People thought I was worried about my ears.
I really wasn't worried about my ears.
I just needed something to hold the bandana up.
joe rogan
Keep your hair in place.
eddie bravo
Yeah, and then some guy down in that, when the machados were down in that Redondo Beach, some surfer dude goes, bro, man, you should just wear a diver's hood, man.
I go, diver's hood?
You mean like Jaku Stowe?
So, you know when Jaku Stowe puts on a mask?
You know the shit that's all around his head?
I ended up going to a surf shop.
This dude told me where I went to a surf shop, bought a diver's hood, like a scuba fucking store, bought a diver's hood, and I would wearing the diver's hood on its own and grappling, because it did hold all my shit together.
That would look fucking ridiculous.
But with the big ass ear guards, I got the biggest ones, dude.
They were maroon giant ear guards so that people really didn't notice that I was wearing scuba gear.
And I competed with that motherfucker.
People still come up to me this day because, dude, I remember seeing you at an old Joe Marrera tournament, man.
And you're the dude who used to wear the scuba gear.
joe rogan
So it's basically a Rash Guard helmet sort of a thing.
eddie bravo
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That's kind of dope.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's actually, you know, that's the problem with all the scrapes and scratches and shit you get.
That's where you could possibly get ringworm and staff.
I like, I've been wearing tights lately.
And you feel like a dancer out there.
You feel something a little funny about a man wearing tights.
But I got over that shit really quick.
eddie bravo
What's wrong with gi pants, man?
joe rogan
I like gi pants.
unidentified
I think he...
joe rogan
I don't know.
I think it's skin tight everywhere.
eddie bravo
You just like to show off your muggler legs.
joe rogan
That's what I like.
I like just walking with my big hams.
Let everybody know what the fuck is up.
eddie bravo
Yeah, man.
And all my uncles went bald like in their 30s and my aunts knew how much my hair meant to me.
And my aunts would say, ah, I'll never forget my Aunt Patty goes, oh, look.
Because we all lose our hair.
Plus, we're born with a ridiculous large forehead.
Like all my aunts think they're losing their hair because they have a giant forehead.
So we're born with giant foreheads.
And I remember my aunt Patty, I was 19, hair longer than a motherfucker.
unidentified
Oh, no.
eddie bravo
In the height of metal, the height of metal.
My aunt Patty goes, Ah, look, he's losing his hair already.
Aw, you're going to be all sad when you go bald.
And I'm like, so right away, right away, I'm like, fuck.
But that was good because that motivated me to go get some Rogaine.
And back then, you need a prescription to get Rogaine.
I had to go to a doctor.
The doctor's like, you're 19 years old.
What are you doing in here?
I'm like, you know what?
I'm going to start early.
I'm terrified of losing my hair.
So I've been on Rogaine since I was 19.
joe rogan
So you jumped on it way before it would ever kicked in?
Yep.
Were you taking the Propetia and everything?
eddie bravo
Well, I took Rogaine from 19 to 30.
And when I was 30 in 2000, that's when Propetia came out.
And then I switched to Propecia from 30 to 40.
Didn't use Rogaine at all in my 30s.
It was just a pill.
Every day I take a pill.
It was beautiful.
It keeps the hair on, dude.
It works.
I should be bald by now.
I really should be.
I'm lucky I have the hair I have because I've been diligent about it.
Just like vitamins.
I was trying to hold on to my youth my whole life.
I was just holding on to the youth.
And, you know, at 40, I decided to go back to Rogaine because I just thought, you know what?
I don't want taking a pill every goddamn day.
Who knows?
I could easily.
joe rogan
They actually think it can help prevent prostate cancer.
But who knows what it does on the other end?
Yeah, I didn't like taking it because when I was taking it, it was fucking with my libido.
And I didn't even realize it was until I got off of it, until I ran out of it.
And all of a sudden, I had these just monster boners all the time.
And I was like, what is going on?
eddie bravo
It didn't affect my boner.
joe rogan
Everybody's different.
You know, they say it only affects a certain percentage of people.
I know other people that have had the same problem.
And I know other people actually say that it made them hornier.
I don't know what the fuck that's all about.
But it's, you know, it blocks DHT.
And apparently, DHT is necessary for something.
Brain function, something, athletic function, something.
I don't know.
eddie bravo
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's funny, though.
The whole situation is funny.
They're just clinging to youth.
You're open about it.
You know, talk about it really openly.
Like, hey, man, I'm just trying to cling to youth.
But for a lot of people, that's like a really shallow thing to say.
Like, I know a lot of people who consider themselves very well educated and they consider themselves to be pretty astute in their understanding of how other people see them.
And so they avoid saying shit like that.
They avoid saying shit like, I'm just trying to hold on to my youth.
They don't want to admit that because it's a frivolous thing.
It's not a thing for a serious man to consider.
But the reality is, nobody likes it.
Nobody wants to.
unidentified
Well, the reality is it feels good to look good.
eddie bravo
Anybody that says that it doesn't feel good to look good, they're full of shit.
If it feels good to look good, I'm just trying to feel good as much as possible.
unidentified
That's all.
eddie bravo
You know what I mean?
I like feeling good.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want your body to work well, too.
The difference between you and a lot of other people is you're always using your body for jiu-jitsu.
So because of that, your body's like a race car.
I mean, we've had these conversations before.
We talk about lifting.
It's like when you concentrate on a rigorous strength and conditioning program, you decide what kind of engine your race car has.
And if you're one of those motherfuckers, like, what's that dude's name you used to train at your place?
The wrestler, Eric, a really strong guy.
Fuck's his name.
Eric Bradley.
eddie bravo
Is that number four in the nation, that guy?
Eric Bradley.
joe rogan
Eric Bradley.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, I remember doing drills with this guy, and we were doing neon stomach drills.
And this motherfucker, I got a pretty good neon stomach.
I can hold some dudes down.
This motherfucker launched me through the air.
Like, he had like ridiculous, like, physical strength, like ridiculous physical strength.
And when you talked about it, he was like, he would never miss his lift.
I remember he was talking about it once.
I got to get my lift in.
I don't miss my lift.
It was all like, I don't know what exactly the lift was, but it was very obviously like a series of strength and conditioning.
It was like a clean and press or something like that.
It was a lot of those.
You ever see the Randy Couture set that he does?
eddie bravo
No, I don't.
joe rogan
It's a fascinating one because Randy does it all with real light weights.
He does it with like a barbell, a big barbell with like...
Not even.
Not even.
Yeah, like a 25 on each side.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, dude.
But he doesn't stop.
I mean, it's a fuckload of exercises, a fuckload of reps.
And what he does, he says what that does is really much more mimics fighting than full blast bench presses and full blast squats.
And it's more like for muscular endurance.
It's a motherfucker, dude.
I tried it once.
It's a motherfucker.
eddie bravo
A lot of full body stuff?
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of full body stuff.
A lot of lunges, a lot of bent over rows, all sorts of different shit.
It's like there's a whole series of them.
And Randy has them online.
eddie bravo
You know what's really made a difference in my lifts, dude?
I love doing squats way more now than ever because of these shoes.
These vibrum shoes.
joe rogan
These toe shoes.
Eddie Bravo wears toe.
Dude, you just put your dirty foot on my mug.
Now I got to disinfect that.
That's not that shit.
Yeah, but it's in my house.
Someone's going to drink out of it out of my house.
eddie bravo
Oh, dude, these vibram shoes are the best.
joe rogan
Don't drink that spot where you just touched your dirty feet on it, man.
Oh, dude, I can't believe you did that.
Damn it.
eddie bravo
Doing squats with these things on?
It feels so good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Do you really dig into them?
joe rogan
Steve Maxwell got me into working out barefoot.
I do all my lifting barefoot now at my house.
eddie bravo
What does he think about these shoes?
joe rogan
He loves them.
Yeah, he likes those.
He's a big advocate of flat, minimalist shoes.
There's a box right over there with another pair of they're not toe shoes, but they're minimalist shoes.
Yeah, I think for lifting weights and for training, they're the best.
The toes, a lot of people are weird.
Like they don't like wearing them.
They look stupid.
They look silly.
But I think if you could get them and they fit right, for me, I had a hard time getting some of the toes in.
But once I got them in, man, it's pretty goddamn comfortable.
And you really do feel your toes working as individual units, which doesn't happen when it's like one big, thick sneaker.
In a big, thick sneaker, it's like trying to, it's like if you put sneakers in your hands, okay, and then try to do bench press with it.
How good would that be?
It wouldn't be so good.
You wouldn't really have that kind of good control.
eddie bravo
Exactly.
joe rogan
And you're gripping the ground with your toes, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
It's so huge.
I love walking now.
Just walking is awesome.
joe rogan
I'm serious.
eddie bravo
Maybe I'll get over it in a month or so, but I really enjoy these shoes so much.
They're changing the way I just function every day.
joe rogan
I saw some boot versions.
They were like, it looked like Hobbit feet.
It was on Tim Ferriss's Twitter.
Somebody had tweeted it.
It's like the same company that does it.
What is the company that makes yours?
eddie bravo
Vibram.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're Vibrams.
But it's like a boot, like a tanned leather boot.
Like you could wear.
And like, I guess you would be allowed to wear that and go out to eat at a nice restaurant.
It would be a shoe.
eddie bravo
Yeah, they got to make some cool looking dressy ones.
Like we were talking about earlier, like put some like fake fur on top of it or something, little diamonds or something like that.
Make them evil.
joe rogan
They got to make fake dressy ones, man.
There's something weird about someone walking towards you and you can see their toes moving.
You know, it's like, for a guy, like flip-flops are weird enough, right?
You're out there showing your toes, hanging around, flip-flopping with people.
But when you're wearing, it's like you're out at like a nice restaurant and a guy can see your toes move.
There's something about like our idea of what it is to go out where that doesn't agree with us.
You know, what are you doing?
You're trying to get attention with your silly shoes, you motherfucker?
Why can't you wear regular shoes like a regular person?
Why you got to be the one guy who stands out?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You silly bitch.
eddie bravo
People talk shit on these shoes so much.
Like my girlfriend didn't want.
Like, I wanted them for a year.
And she's like, fuck no.
I'll leave you.
She's like, fuck no.
She would bring it up to her friends and they would laugh at me.
Oh, he wanted to get those shoes.
Those shoes are ridiculous.
Oh, you know.
And then finally, finally, I told her, either I'm going to get them.
joe rogan
You need to get down with the fanny pack.
That's what you need to get down with.
I travel with the fanny pack, son.
I travel strong.
eddie bravo
I don't feel like it.
I got a new two minute.
joe rogan
Oh, son.
It's so much better.
I put my money.
I got my cell phone, all my bullshit, two little zipper pockets, little chapstick in there, boom, shalak, lock, boom.
Come on, man.
I leave little, I have headphones.
I have my little headphones, little beats, little tiny ones.
I keep those in there, the earbuds.
I'm always down to listen to music if I'm stuck anywhere.
If I'm traveling, I don't go anywhere without that fucking fanny pack.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Plane ticket?
Oh, where does it go?
eddie bravo
Very practical.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is, dude.
You got to step up and claim it back.
Take it back.
eddie bravo
I was a dude who carried a man purse for a while.
joe rogan
I remember.
You used to bring around your CDs everywhere.
You brought them everywhere.
You never wanted to be in a situation where you wanted to give someone.
You didn't have one on you.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
Always passed.
Now, fuck CDs.
You got MP3s now.
joe rogan
Isn't that amazing?
CDs just, solid media is almost useless.
It's on its way out.
Like, I go to Border Books, you know, and look around.
They always have like a back section where they sell movies and CDs and shit.
And I look, you know, and I think it's funny.
You know, the CD section just keeps getting smaller and smaller.
You go to Best Buy, it's just getting smaller and smaller.
We're going to be all living in the cloud, dude.
eddie bravo
It's going to be a virtual bookstore in the future, right?
Like a 3D thing that you walk around and you just pick out the books.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, it sort of is there now.
If you have a Kindle or if you have one of those iPads with the iBook application, you just go scroll.
I'll take that book right now.
Bang.
Downloads, images, and all.
eddie bravo
It's crazy.
I found out Marilyn Manson came out with a new album a couple days ago and just, oh, I just buy it on my phone.
You know, instantly.
joe rogan
Crazy.
eddie bravo
I have my phone on me at all times.
joe rogan
Can you buy it with 3G or do you have to be connected to the internet?
eddie bravo
I buy all my shit on 3G.
joe rogan
Really?
eddie bravo
Yep.
joe rogan
So you can download the whole album on 3G.
Wow.
You know, those cards that they sell you, those internet cards, and they have a certain amount of bandwidth.
Dude, I downloaded one movie off iTunes and they sent me a message saying I used up like 50% of my bandwidth.
One movie?
eddie bravo
Really?
joe rogan
How much bandwidth do I get, you assholes?
That was hardly any bandwidth.
I mean, how big is a movie when you get a movie on iTunes?
eddie bravo
I never buy movies on iTunes.
joe rogan
How big can it be, though?
eddie bravo
I mean, I would guess big.
joe rogan
A few gigs?
eddie bravo
I'm still not sure what a gig is.
joe rogan
A gig, it's a gigabyte.
It's a thousand megabytes?
eddie bravo
I know it stands for, I know, but I don't know how big that is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
A gig is like, if you have a big-ass photo of a very high-resolution photo, maybe it could be one gig.
Like a good-sized porno film that you could save on your hard drive.
It's an AVI file, and you could watch it for like 15 minutes, maybe 20.
Maybe a gig.
If it's really high.
eddie bravo
You're breaking down porn gigs.
joe rogan
But it all depends on the codec.
So that's the thing about there's a lot of different standards when it comes to AVIs, MPEGs, MOV files, flash files.
There's a lot of different things.
I mean, we live in incredible times, and there's a lot of parallel evolution of different sort of formats for videos.
You know, it's pretty incredible.
And then Blu-rays, you know, you can't play Blu-ray on your laptop, but Blu-ray is the shit when it comes to high-definition.
You know, you got a Blu-ray player at home?
You ever watched that?
eddie bravo
Yeah, it's on my PlayStation, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, isn't that incredible?
I mean, how incredible is a PlayStation?
It comes with a Blu-ray player.
And you watch those, I mean, like real badass movies like Avatar and Blu-ray.
Like, oh, it's stunning.
You can't tell me that doesn't feel good.
Like that asshole that lives in the caves, that guy who gave up on money.
You don't get to experience Avatar douchebag.
You don't get to experience it.
You need money for that.
James Cameron is not going to work for fucking food, okay?
If a guy's going to create something like Avatar, he wants to live in a castle and drive a private jet.
You got to pay a guy like James Cameron to make a fucking movie like that.
And you're not going to get to see that while you're eating beans out of a can underneath a bridge.
eddie bravo
You think Dictator is going to be good?
joe rogan
No.
eddie bravo
It doesn't look that great.
joe rogan
It doesn't look good.
And I keep hearing it's terrible.
eddie bravo
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Unfortunately.
And I'm a huge LEG fan.
This is how huge an LEG fan I am.
I bought a different DVD player because the DVD player that I bought would play DVDs from the UK because there's two different regions.
And apparently, like it used to be cheap DVD players were all region.
Like a cheap one, like a really expensive one would only be, you could only play American DVDs on it.
But a cheap one, for some reason, some of them, they had like all regions.
And eventually they phased that shit out, I think.
I don't think you can get all regions anymore.
I might be wrong.
But point is, I bought a special DVD player just for European videos so I could watch the Ali G show.
And I got them all off the Amazon website, the UK Amazon, amazon.co.uk.
They have their own version of Amma and a bunch of different shit.
Like all these Ali G episodes that I never saw, like Ali G's movie.
What was that movie?
eddie bravo
Yeah, Ali G in the House.
joe rogan
Dude, that movie is fucking brilliant.
You and I, remember?
You and I watched it.
We got baked as fuck and we watched Ali G in the House.
And I got this DVD player specifically to watch Ali G. Yeah.
But when I watched that, the ad for that movie, I mean, I could be wrong, but I watched the ad, I was like, whoa, what happened here?
Like, this looks like a mess.
eddie bravo
I see, there is a chance.
Like, maybe he's holding all the good stuff.
Because Bruno and Borat were fucking.
joe rogan
Brilliant.
Brilliant.
eddie bravo
I've seen Bruno probably a hundred times.
joe rogan
Borat was so goddamn good.
He's so good, man.
He's so hilarious when he's on.
But, you know, everybody has fuck-ups.
I don't know if this is going to be one, but I keep hearing bad things.
eddie bravo
Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I keep hearing they're delaying it and reshooting things and trying to fix things.
eddie bravo
Damn.
joe rogan
I hope I'm wrong.
But it could be also that people, like Freddy Got Fingered, they don't get it.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, like Freddy Got Fingered, you and I both agree is hilarious.
It's crazy, ridiculous movie.
But a lot of people didn't get it.
They didn't like it.
They didn't want to go with it.
eddie bravo
You know, it was a trip when we talked about Freddy Got Fingered last time I was on the show.
Tom Green, like, sent me a tweet.
joe rogan
Oh, that's cool.
eddie bravo
I'm like, holy shit.
I worshipped Tom Green back when he was doing just the small-time shit on MTV.
joe rogan
Have you ever met him?
eddie bravo
I met him once when you did his show at his house in the Hollywood Hills.
joe rogan
That was fun, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Does he still do it there?
joe rogan
I don't know.
eddie bravo
What does he do?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I got to call that dude.
I got to get him on my podcast or go on his or whatever.
I did his too.
He did one at Kevin Smith's place, the Smodcast place in Hollywood.
He's a great guy.
He's going to be out at the Canyon Club soon.
eddie bravo
Yeah, man.
All his early shit, I worship Tom Green.
joe rogan
You know, he's loving stand-up now.
unidentified
Really?
eddie bravo
He's getting into it now.
joe rogan
Dude, he's a stand-up.
He's just stand-up all over the country, all over the world.
eddie bravo
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I watched videos of him kicking this in Australia.
Dude, he's doing great.
He's doing great.
Well, he's a funny guy, man.
eddie bravo
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And he just, you know, just for a long time just didn't do stand-up.
And then he just, I remember talking to him, I was like, I'm really getting into this.
I'm really getting into this stand-up.
He was really excited about it.
You know, it was like something new to him.
And it was all his, he could, like, he had sort of, or he was one of the first guys to really branch out on the internet and do his own shit with his show.
The Tom Green showed live on the internet.
It was really one of the first guys.
And then I think he just decided, you know what, man?
Why the fuck am I sitting around waiting for someone to give me a show when I know I'm funny?
I know I'm weird.
But what am I going to do?
I'm going to wait for someone.
Let me make something happen.
Let me go make something happen.
I love that.
I just love that he did that.
I respect that so much.
eddie bravo
Old school Tom Green used to put dog shit on a mic and just see how people stupid were, stupid people were on the street.
When they see a camera and a guy come up to them with the mic, they're so thrilled about being on TV.
They don't want to believe it's bullshit.
They see the shit right in front of their face, literally.
They'll put dog shit on a mic and start talking to people and interviewing people.
And they'll smell it, they'll look at it and still continue with the interview, hoping, just not even thinking that they're being goofed on.
They don't want to believe that shit.
They want to believe that they're really on TV and it's real.
You know, that was crazy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was an innovator as far as doing like really ridiculous shit.
He was very original with his whole show, like fucking that dead moose on the side of the highway, pulls over.
He was ridiculous.
And a nice fucking guy, man.
Tom Green is a nice fucking guy.
I always enjoy being around that guy.
He's just a really good dude to be around.
He's fun.
And in this world of weirdos that you meet, you know, you can meet some people that are famous that are just fucking crazy or weird or nuts or too much or you can't take them or they're too egocentric or whatever.
It's nice when you meet a guy, like Everlast.
Nice when you meet a guy who could just hang out.
He's just a regular dude, man.
Or a guy like Tom Green.
He's just a regular dude.
So we're so lucky being exposed out here and especially doing like a podcast.
You're exposed to so many really extraordinary people, so many interesting people.
I mean, think of all the weird.
I mean, from the fringe to Alex Jones, you know, fascinating guy to Michael Rupert, you know, fascinating guy.
eddie bravo
Have you had Alex Jones on this podcast?
joe rogan
No, but we're going to work it out because there was a mistake and I actually owe Alex an apology.
There's a company called Bent Pixels and Bent Pixels is there they put ads on people's videos.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
Marty.
joe rogan
Yeah, Marty Cordobo, who's a good friend of mine and a good friend of Dana White's and a great guy.
And we were working together doing this on videos.
But unfortunately, some videos were claimed.
It's not just videos of my stand-up.
They have like an algorithm and the algorithm goes and looks for your name.
So when it goes out and looks for your name, it doesn't necessarily get something that you own.
It could be like Joe Rogan on the Alex Jones show.
Well, this algorithm grabs that thinking that there's a copyright claim to be made or you could put an ad on that video.
Well, you can't put an ad on that video because it's me and a guest of Alex Jones' show.
So of course they release it and it's a mistake and they, you know, are trying to correct and apologize for everything.
But it's a sloppy algorithm.
You know, I'm sure they're upset about it and they're unfortunate, but they're not trying to rip anybody off.
And they're certainly not trying to claim copyright from me on stuff that's not my stuff.
What they're trying to do is like, you know, there's a lot of people that put your stand-up online.
There's a lot of my videos that are online and other people's videos as well.
And there's ads on those videos.
And these videos are on other people's sites.
So other people are getting like, like, I've clicked on like a link of my own that was one of my Heckler videos.
And I watched an ad that somebody else put up on my video of me.
And I'm like, that's hilarious.
Like, this guy's making money.
And I look down.
It's like thousands and thousands of views.
I don't know how many hundred thousand views this fucking video got.
But I'm like, how crazy is that?
This guy, whatever an ad pays you, I don't know what it pays you, but this guy's making money from my video.
That's kind of crazy.
unidentified
That's bullshit.
joe rogan
So when Marty confronted me about this, or offered me rather this and discussed it with me, I shouldn't say confronted because that sounds like hostile, doesn't it?
Confronted.
Presented.
Presented is the proper word.
When Marty presented it to me, I certainly did not have any intention of it connecting itself to someone else.
And there's a lot of people complaining about it, but most people understand that it's just a mistake.
It's an algorithm.
And they're not trying to be sleazy.
They'll fix everything.
And I'm sorry.
But motherfucker got bills trying to get paid.
Trying to keep that money rolling in, dog.
It's hard to make money off the internet, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
eddie bravo
It's hard?
joe rogan
It's hard to make money off the internet.
Yeah.
eddie bravo
It's very hard.
joe rogan
So that's the thing.
Everybody's trying to monetize.
They try to monetize podcasts.
There's ways that people have clubs.
You can join the VIP program and you get a free podcast every week, an extra podcast and a t-shirt and this and that.
And trying to figure out how you get someone to spend X amount of money.
A lot of dudes, like Kevin Smith, they were asking him for ad-free shit.
A lot of people were asking him for ad-free shit.
So he decided to make, he's got like two versions, like his regular podcast completely free.
But you got to listen to a few ads.
They got to pay the bills.
And then he has a membership offer where you could get that.
And then you get the no ad version.
eddie bravo
Pay like five bucks a month or something.
joe rogan
Something like that.
Yeah, it's totally reasonable.
And you'd want to support it if you really did enjoy it.
As long as it's like five bucks a month.
unidentified
It's a nothing.
joe rogan
like my comedy special that I'm going to release online, that's going to be five bucks.
And it has to be five bucks.
First of all, because Louis C.K., the first guy to do it and make this a popular choice, he charged five bucks.
So you can't charge more than the innovator.
He's completely fair in the right way to do it.
He did it perfect, and you got to follow his lead.
You shouldn't charge any more than that.
So I think there's nothing wrong with what anybody's doing by asking for some sort of a membership fee just to just to work off some of the bills.
There's a lot of people that would be happy to pay five bucks to listen to Adam Carolla every month.
I mean, it's a part of their daily grind.
I mean, for what costs a couple cups of coffee a month.
I mean, I don't know how much he charges, but Adam has some sort of a Ustream thing.
But for a lot of people, man, they fucking love that show.
Adam Carolla's show is super fucking popular.
He's a big part of a lot of people's lives.
There's nothing wrong as long as it's reasonable.
The beautiful thing is that it can be reasonable, like five bucks.
And because of the internet, it really can benefit the artists, like you, like, you know, your jiu-jitsu website.
Five bucks benefits you, man.
It goes right to you.
You know, whereas me, when I'm selling it, five bucks benefit.
It goes right to me.
It's not like the old days where you had to go through some sort of a manufacturing company who would put the DVDs together for you and a marketing company who would put it on the shelves and talk to, well, we got you in at Walmart and, you know, you had to get in at all these different places.
This was just a couple years ago, man.
Just a couple years ago, one of my last DVD deals that I did.
I remember, you know, one of the big things, I had to go and sit and I had a meeting with these dudes that are this big DVD distribution company.
And they were pitching to me how they can get my DVD in all these different stores all over the country.
And this is what's important.
What's important is, you know, you can't have anything on the shelves that you can't get onto Walmart.
If you can't get into Walmart, you're really doomed.
You're doomed to sell these things.
This is the new reality.
Like, you had to get into Walmart.
So you had to have something that was, you can't, like, have, call it like shit talking one-on-one, like the name of my message board.
You can never have a DVD named that because they wouldn't sell it.
It has to be squeaky clean.
That was just a few years ago.
It's fascinating where this is all going, man.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
You don't need any of that shit anymore.
I'm starting to sell.
I'm in the process of switching manufacturers.
I'm handling all my merchandise now.
We got new shirts coming, new designs, new hoodies, new rash guards, new shorts.
All that's coming.
It's going to take a little time because it's really expensive.
But my store on my website hasn't been running since my website went up.
I've been letting Melee that fight where handle all my merchandise.
It's just too much for me to handle for a while.
But now I'm going to handle everything and take over.
So it's really exciting.
We're talking about this before the podcast.
It's really exciting to be able to have a concept.
Like what's going on is like 10 Planet Heads are designing shirts.
And I'm like, oh shit, I want that design.
I send it over to my manufacturer.
He makes it.
We make it happen.
Sell it on the website.
Boom.
Just like that.
It's on like Donkey Kong.
joe rogan
It's crazy, right?
eddie bravo
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It's a strange world we live in, dude.
eddie bravo
Yeah, so it's like right now is a bad time to buy 10th Planet Gear.
We're just getting it rolling.
You could still, I'm allowing Melee to sell out all their stuff.
Melee, you can go to 10thPlanetGear.com.
Melee owns that.
Until the end of the year, they're allowed to sell everything off and while I build up my own merchandise.
It's going to be official 10th Planet brand.
joe rogan
It's not like an, because you know, somebody wants to learn jiu-jitsu from your website, which is more interesting to most people here.
How do they do that?
If they want to learn jiu-jitsu online, is it possible to just go to a regular school and like learn all your shit online and then go to the school and just bring a laptop or bring an iPhone?
Do you have iPhone versions of it?
unidentified
Yep.
eddie bravo
Yep.
You can watch it on iPad and all that stuff.
Basically, most traditional Brazilian jiu-jitsu schools have like one or two guys that are into 10th planet techniques.
And so you could be that guy.
You could go to a Gracie Baja school and jump on my website and for five bucks extra, you get to learn all the stuff that they're not teaching there because most Gracie Baja schools don't teach rubber guard.
They don't teach all the stuff that we saw the Korean zombie do.
joe rogan
A lot of Gracie Baja schools.
There are a lot of them, aren't there?
eddie bravo
There's a million of them.
There's a whole bunch.
There's only like 30 10th planet schools.
There's probably 500 Gracie Bajas, if not more.
They're everywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's one on the street.
eddie bravo
They're huge.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's incredible how Jiu-Jitsu has taken off, man.
It's just a testament of what a fun way it is to exercise.
So I saw this thing, man, and I had to talk to you about it because it's completely ridiculous.
Philip Corso, you know who that dude is?
Yeah.
The guy who was one of the people.
Yeah.
Well, he was one of the people that supposedly was there and saw the spacecraft, wasn't he, at Roswell?
eddie bravo
Yes.
joe rogan
He was one of the actual people.
So his son or someone, I'm going to try to find the actual article.
Because someone in his family, Philip Corso's son, reveals that Roswell Craft was a time machine.
Like, what?
Like, you crazy motherfucker.
eddie bravo
Dude, anything's possible, though.
joe rogan
I know.
eddie bravo
Anything's possible.
Of course, to say that's crazy, I mean, it is crazy.
joe rogan
It is crazy.
eddie bravo
Yeah, but reality is crazy.
joe rogan
It is.
Reality is crazy.
eddie bravo
It is possible.
Shit.
Who knows, like, the truth?
joe rogan
But I love these things because these revelations, they're always in like some weird hotel conference room.
There's like a podium and there's like a bad slideshow.
It's not, you know, not quite fascinating.
And this guy is talking about how in the presentation, I'll just read what it says.
The details of the alleged Roswell craft are talked about at length.
A particular interest was information about the so-called extraterrestrial biological entities, which contained two brains.
One was organic and thought to control the beings, and the other one was laced with crystal electronics that's still not understood to this day, which was thought to connect the beings with the craft through time.
It is purported that these beings are essentially artificial intelligence From our own future, and that their crash caused a bifurcation of our timelines and altered our history.
The most mind-boggling aspect of this story and the theory that the Air Force, etc., are operating under is that as a result of this timeline split and the subsequent advancement in technology from reverse engineering, that we, or the military, are now on a timeline of technological evolution that will eventually create the very same craft and beings that actually crashed in Roswell in 1947.
Whoa.
eddie bravo
That's insane shit.
joe rogan
Could you imagine?
That's incredible.
I mean, it sounds completely ridiculous, and I'm sure this guy's nuts out of his fucking head.
But if he wasn't, just say, let's just say, to settle out all the skeptics and the people that would be critical of this idea.
Imagine if that is how it works.
I mean, we're working so hard right now.
Not we, not you, not I, but scientists are, to figure out all kinds of crazy things that are going to alter the very way we interact with the universe.
Look what the fuck's going on with this Large Hadron Collider.
Look at this quark gluon plasma that they've created.
That's like the most dense thing.
Like it's some insane amount.
Like a sugar cube weighs like 40 billion pounds or something crazy.
I mean, they're doing some nutty, nutty shit.
eddie bravo
They are working on a time machine right now.
I think they could send photons back like seconds at a time or something like that, but they have been working on it for 20 years.
I mean, a time machine is something that they're actually working on.
There are scientists working on it.
You know, they're going to start with photons and maybe five minutes in the future or whatever.
They know time travel is possible.
Einstein said it was possible.
I mean, based on the speed of light.
joe rogan
Kurt Godell, who came up with it, I remember reading about it, who was a mathematician, but it needed, you needed something like an object the size of the solar system and it had to be going backwards fucking faster than the speed of light.
It's just, there's like a lot of weird shit there.
eddie bravo
Something with the speed of light.
joe rogan
Something to transverse its axle.
eddie bravo
If you travel out in space at the speed of light and then like for, you know, a week and then come back at the speed of life, something like that, that you're going to come back to a planet that's like 500 years older.
joe rogan
Older, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that is weird.
How crazy is that?
Yeah.
That's relative to how fast you're traveling.
eddie bravo
Dude, anything's possible.
joe rogan
It's all nuts, right, isn't it?
eddie bravo
But check this out.
But it's just people are going to call me a kook, but I just wanted to play this as really quick evidence.
joe rogan
This is evidence.
eddie bravo
Watch.
unidentified
Just listen to this.
Well, is that an amazing thing?
Yes, if you go back eight generations, they have a common ancestor.
eddie bravo
These spiritual beings.
unidentified
Right?
That's it.
eddie bravo
I mean, well, there's...
joe rogan
I think that was in that article that we read, right?
eddie bravo
Dick Cheney's wife.
joe rogan
That bitch is probably crazy.
She's living with Dick Cheney.
She must be a devil worshiper.
Could you imagine if Dick Cheney was your husband?
Well, what do you think, honey?
Did I do the right thing?
Yeah, whatever.
A million people dead.
Whatever.
We got a nice house.
We got our fucking badass house.
Way to go, dude.
You provided.
He provided for your family.
unidentified
Okay, let's see.
joe rogan
That guy likes lets Dick Cheney fuck her.
Do you think he wears like an owl mask?
He fucks her.
A cape.
Like he's one of the watchmen.
Is that what they wear?
What the fuck's that?
What are you doing, dude?
eddie bravo
I was just trying to find Obama.
joe rogan
Can't have a conversation by myself.
eddie bravo
I was just trying to find Obama.
You get on your laptop sometimes and ignore me.
I'm left out on a fucking island here.
joe rogan
Only for a second to Google something.
eddie bravo
That's what I was trying to do.
I was trying to find the Obama interview of him talking about it.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't really care if they all are related.
They all suck.
How about that?
They're related to me.
eddie bravo
Yeah, like, but if they are all related, fuck.
What does that mean?
It means that we're living in a...
joe rogan
Maybe we are living in some sort of a manufactured reality.
I've been thinking that more and more lately as things get weirder and weirder.
You know, when that Joseph Coney guy, the guy who had the campaign against Joseph Coney, and then a few days later, they made like fucking insane amounts of money.
And the way they had their sponsorship or their charity rather set up, it was really fucked up.
Like they got a lot of money out of it before the money actually got to anybody that was overseas.
You know, it was really kind of a scam.
But then the guy went crazy and wound up masturbating in the street in San Diego and acting really gay and flailing his arms around and talking really gay.
And they arrested him.
He went crazy.
But it's almost like you see something like that happen.
You see a guy get shamed because people find out that his charity was like a little funky, a little suspicious.
And then he winds up blowing a gasket like that publicly.
It almost makes you go like, who's writing this?
This is a work of fiction.
Who's writing the thing where that wiener guy gets arrested for showing his wiener?
Who's writing this?
Who's writing it?
When you see a guy like Mitt Romney and Mitt Romney talk to that kid who was the medical marijuana patient, he was like, are you going to arrest me?
Am I a criminal?
Like, this is the only thing that allows me to eat?
Well, I'm not for medical marijuana.
I'm not for it.
And he just walks away from some poor crippled kid.
And you're like, really?
Do you think that this guy has the kind of compassion that you want as a man who runs the world?
That's a fucking robot.
That's an ideological robot.
That's a guy who's not addressing a person who is in pain, a person who's just been dealt a terrible hand by life, and is telling him that there's a substance that gives me, a very unfortunate person, some relief.
Oh, I'm not for that.
I'm not for your relief.
unidentified
I'm an ideological vampire, and I can't see the daylight.
eddie bravo
Did you see that video of Mitt Romney and Obama agreeing on everything?
It's all spliced together and they go through every issue, every issue, and they agree on every issue.
Most issues.
Most issues, like a good like 90%, all the big issues.
And there's video.
You can find this on YouTube, video of them going back and forth.
They're talking and they're saying the exact same thing about health care, the exact same thing about everything.
joe rogan
It's amazing at the end of the day when you realize how much corporations and big money influence government.
And then once you realize that, then you put it together and you realize this is a shell game.
The corporations influence both sides.
They just keep this stupid banter going.
It's a stupid tennis game where this guy's got the ball, now that guy's got the ball, and this guy's got the ball.
And they just alternate between Democrats and Republicans.
And mo money, mo problems.
The Democrats have their own specific line of problems, like sticking their dicks in chicks' mouths and all kinds of freaky shit that Clinton did.
And then the Republicans got their issues too.
And everybody's got their own little thing.
It's a back and forth.
Well, gay marriage, I'm not for gay marriage.
What about abortion?
The thing is, six months is what if it's rape?
And they keep this fucking battle.
Meanwhile, they're just pulling money out of other spots of the world, just fucking attacking and raping in the world.
It's amazing.
I mean, if you really look at the actual game, how it is played, the game of capitalism, the game of global imperialist capitalism that we're experiencing right now, living here in America, in the balls of the dick that's fucking the world.
If you really look at it, it really is an amazing goddamn movie.
It feels like someone wrote this shit down.
It feels like Dark City.
eddie bravo
Yeah, as much as I really am obsessed with just, I mean, I'm not trying to put together a revolution or an army or anything like that.
All I'm doing is I'm trying to make as many people aware as possible.
Let's not make it that easy for them to fuck us.
I'm not going to start with that.
joe rogan
Well, you know, the best way to influence them, this is what I always say.
You're not going to get those Dick Cheney motherfuckers.
Those guys are broken.
He's been broken since he was a child.
What you're going to get is those kids in college that are listening to this and they're realizing that these guys in their 40s are telling them about life.
And they're telling them about it in a very honest way and letting them know, listen, man, you are not going to live forever.
And the only way you're going to enjoy this life is if you create less negative energy than you receive from life.
If you put forth a positive result and a positive influence and a positive reaction to you being on this planet.
That's how you're going to have a good life.
You are not going to have a good life if it's just me, me, me, kunta, kanta, kanta, taking over the world, fucking over everybody.
You're going to, after a while, you don't realize how much money you have.
Once, you know, why would you want $100 million when you could be happy and comfortable with 10 or 20 and not have to fuck over the world?
Well, they don't even realize it.
They're just caught up in this fucking crazy game.
You know, where a person is super successful and they made $100 million fucking over the world, they probably could have made $30 or $40 million and done it the right way and still been just equally as wealthy.
You don't realize $100 million or $50 million.
These crazy assholes that want to own everything.
You know what you realize when you don't have enough, you can't afford a good dinner, you can't afford to heat your house, you can't afford to live in a nice neighborhood where your kids are safe and they play in front of your house, you can't afford to pay for cable.
But once you get paid for all that and you have a nice car, you have food on your table, it becomes a matter of what are you trying to get with that money?
Where are you trying to get your happiness from?
Because if you're trying to get your happiness purely through objects, that shit's ridiculous.
Or purely through monetary accomplishment, that's ridiculous.
eddie bravo
It's a dead end, man.
joe rogan
It's a dead end.
It really is a dead end.
The way to change the world is to let kids know this.
Let them know don't get on that path.
You can be a successful motherfucker and still have ethics.
You can be a successful person and still be a good guy and do the right thing.
You can protect the country from the cunts of the world without being one of the cunts of the world.
And that's where shit went wrong.
We became cunts to protect ourselves from cunts.
And we've been doing it from the fucking get-go.
The real problem in this country is that there's a lot of us that aren't like you or I. And they're the ones who are representing us in the world.
They're the ones who are making all these decisions.
They're the ones who are doing all these fucking crazy backroom deals that make all kinds of ridiculous shit that's horrible for the economy legal.
Just so a few people can extract millions of dollars from the system.
And it ain't you and it ain't me, man.
And there's something you said to me once a long time ago and it really stuck with me.
And it's a very astute point.
You said, we were born into a system that we have no control over.
We were born into it.
And to try to fix it is almost impossible.
And it really is true.
We were born into this thing and we got no fucking control over it.
You say voting.
Please, man, you really think that Ron Paul would be losing as badly as he is in a lot of these places?
It's absolute proof of voter fraud when it comes to Ron Paul in several different districts.
There's been several different videos on him online.
One of them, I believe, is in Maine, where they committed voter fraud, man.
They don't want Ron Paul winning anything.
Nobody does across the board.
The real reality of our system is that it's designed to make sure everyone doesn't have a say.
It's not that everyone has a say.
It's that everyone has a say in who has a say about who has a say.
And because of that, it's a tiered effect.
They're able to control it.
They block it off at certain ends.
You don't really vote for president.
You vote for a representative.
The representative votes for president.
There's all these special interest groups that are funding these politicians and money's coming from fucking soap manufacturers that want to keep pouring a certain amount of shit every year into the river and make it okay.
You know, it's a mess, man.
It's a fucking mess.
And the way to fix it is not with these guys that are in place.
It's letting these old motherfuckers die off and letting the new people come in.
Letting these people, like the guys who own Google, these young motherfuckers that are smart and figured shit out and just said, let's just take over everything.
Maps, email, fucking, let's make a browser.
Let's make an operating system.
Let's make phones.
Let's make every, let's go crazy.
Let's just get nuts and let's just control this motherfucker and do it with a company that's ethical and do it with a company that's nice to their employees.
Do it with a company that gives them a big cafeteria and takes care of everybody.
eddie bravo
It's nice to know that there's good people out there.
Like anonymous.
I mean, we have a force out there.
Who knows how strong they really are?
Because I hear from people that, oh, yeah, they're shutting down government websites that the government don't even care about.
But I don't really know.
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
joe rogan
The government cares.
The government does not want you shutting anything down.
eddie bravo
But the guy that told me this, he was actually a friend of the comedian, the Indian comedian, Peters, Russell Peters.
joe rogan
Russell Peters.
eddie bravo
He was a friend of his when he did the podcast.
I don't know who he is or what his name is, but that's what he was saying.
He seemed to be an expert on the whole anonymous thing.
And he said that they're shutting down websites that really no one cares about, but the perception that they have power is actually giving them the power because then people rally behind them and that kind of thing.
So he says it's a good thing.
even though they're shutting down like you know, an FBI website that's just like a homepage or something, I'm not sure exactly what they're doing, but the perception that they have power will actually give them power.
Because if everybody in this country decided to look at the government and look at all the shady shit that's going on an unbiased way, like a detective, if everyone just decided to look at all the evidence and clear their mind and have an open mind, man, I think the power will be shifted back to the people.
I think it's just that so many people, like the propaganda, and the power has ever really been in the people.
You know how strong that power, that propaganda is?
Just the fact that Mitt Romney is the best candidate that the Republicans can come up with, that alone tells you there's some shit.
joe rogan
Well, you, first of all, to be a representative, to be a president, okay, we have already established pretty much that that's just a figurehead.
With George Bush, we sort of established that he wasn't really the president.
He was the guy that's in that position, and they've, you know, whatever, vote him in, however he got there, he got there, and then everything behind the scenes was obviously working without him.
The Dick Cheney situation.
Dick Cheney was the one who was in the bunker.
Well, after all that 9-11 shit was going down, he was the one that was hiding.
That guy was essentially the mastermind for the fucking global empire that is the United States.
He moved all the pieces into place, made sure a lot of people profited, and got away with some fucking pretty insane shit.
So since that's the case, you got to realize, well, in order to be the figurehead, in order to be the guy, the main guy, you can't have a fucked up past.
You can't have like some Herman Kane type shit where you got a lot of bitches on the side and you're banging them and then, you know, the National Inquirer starts finding out about shit.
You can't have that anymore.
There's too much introspective work or there's too much work.
There's too much investigative work.
They can find out if you did some shady shit in business in the past.
They could find out if you fired one of your employees and she charged you with sexual harassment and then she's going to tell some crazy story about you whipped your dick out in the washroom or something.
You can't have that.
So it leaves who?
It leaves how many people?
How many people who don't have fucking John David, what's that guy's name?
John Davidson?
Who's that guy?
The guy that got arrested.
I want to say John Davidson because he looks like him.
The fucking presidential candidate who got caught.
He had a baby with another chick, like a girl who was a videographer.
eddie bravo
Santorum?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Yeah.
No, it wasn't Santorum.
He's in court right now.
eddie bravo
Newt Gingrich.
joe rogan
You don't even know politicians.
You don't know anybody, do you?
eddie bravo
I know Newt Gingrich.
He's huge.
joe rogan
I want to say John Davidson, but that's not his fucking name.
I know someone on Twitter will tell me what his name is.
This poor fuck, though, he's doomed.
I don't think in our time, dude, we're going to ever see anybody that wants to give the power to the people.
I think we just need a much more ethical sense of rule.
You know, I think giving power to the people is real tricky, man.
The reason why this whole system is set up that way is because way back in the day, the founding fathers, even though they had a great idea what this country could be and great expectations, they also knew you can't just completely give power to the people.
You have to have representatives.
You can't have the mob just make...
eddie bravo
Dude, 13 bloodlines, 13 original states, 13 stars on the flag.
That's some conspiracy shit.
Like the blood, there's supposedly 13 royal bloodlines.
joe rogan
John Edwards, thanks, Kilio Keel.
eddie bravo
John Edwards, the psychic?
joe rogan
No, John Edwards loved to spongle IRL too.
Yeah.
So 13 bloodlines?
Is that what it was?
eddie bravo
Yeah, there's a connection between, according to the people that have the bloodline mastered all the way back to ancient Sumer, 13 bloodlines, so 13 states.
It's like they made sure they had someone from each bloodline running that state so that it stays in the blood or stays in the family.
joe rogan
How could they possibly keep that going all these years and not have anybody know about it?
eddie bravo
Well, a lot of people know about it.
It's all over YouTube.
joe rogan
You know, it's really, yeah, but that doesn't mean anything.
If it hasn't hit CNN yet, of course you couldn't.
eddie bravo
Of course not.
You know what I mean?
Of course it's not.
Think about this.
The propaganda and the brainwashing that goes on TV is so fucking strong.
It's so strong that they can convince most of the people that Tower 7 fell because of fires.
The skyscraper that didn't get hit by a plane.
joe rogan
Yeah, but isn't it possible?
I mean, I don't know shit about architecture.
Isn't it possible if they just did a shit job of designing that building, somehow or another, fire which uniformly spread through the entire building and caused like the upper layer to collapse and then it all simultaneously collapsed?
eddie bravo
No way, man.
1,500 architects and engineers, professionals, they call bullshit.
You look at it.
I don't even need to hear the architects and the engineer.
I look at that shit.
To me, I'm not that stupid.
The government's crooked as fuck.
The history of being crooked as fuck.
That's a controlled demo.
I don't need to hear it.
joe rogan
Well, for people who listen to this and go, shut the fuck up, you guys.
What are you talking about?
Well, you need to know what was in Building 7 because that's where things get rigid.
eddie bravo
Again, most people think only two towers fell because two planes, a third tower fell.
Not only did it fall, but it fell at free fall speed like a controlled demo.
Those things take weeks to load.
That shit, someone was planning something.
And Tower 7 wasn't even next to Tower 1 and 2.
There was 4, 5, and 6.
Well, there was 4, 5, 6, were right under it.
And those got hit and had massive fires and got hit.
Not one of those collapsed, but 100 yards away where there was little fires, 47, it wasn't even next to the Twin Towers.
That one fucking implodes in itself.
How stupid they have to be.
Come on.
If you think that, if they could, and you look at a bunch of other stuff, they didn't put Tower 7 in the 911 Commission report.
They left Tower 7 out.
They didn't even explain it.
And then people for years, they rallied and like, what happened to Tower 7?
What happened to Tower 7?
How come you guys aren't talking about it?
Well, then they finally were forced into doing research on it.
And they came up with the crazy idea that fires made a 47 steel skyscraper collapse all at once.
The only way that shit will collapse all at once is all the columns, the central columns are blown out at the same time.
How are fires going to do that?
It's impossible.
joe rogan
I don't know.
So I'm not, I'm just playing, completely playing devil's advocate.
And if I had a bit of a video.
eddie bravo
It's on video.
And it's on video.
If it wasn't on video, if there wasn't on video and people just, it was just word of mouth, like there was a tower seven and it fell, but no one got it on video, then it would be, you know, it would be like, you know, you'd have to really look into it and really take the word of all these witnesses.
But we have five camera angles.
We got it good.
And professionals are saying it was a controlled demo.
I mean, anybody can tell it's a controlled demo.
joe rogan
It certainly looks like a controlled demo, and it does literally fall off freezeprawl speeds.
But what's crazy was what is inside.
Like, who had.
eddie bravo
There was CIA offices, Enron.
All Enron shit was in there.
Secret service, naval intelligence.
To me, my guess is that's where everything was orchestrated.
joe rogan
Could you fucking imagine?
eddie bravo
That was where it was orchestrated and they go blow that motherfucker up.
No evidence.
Can you imagine?
Because it had to be orchestrated somewhere.
Someone had to orchestrate that shit.
It looks like it had to be Tower 7 because why would they completely destroy it?
Explosions going off everywhere.
There's all these witnesses.
There's tons of them saying bombs are going off everywhere.
There's a dude who committed suicide.
But before he committed suicide, he was talking about how a bomb went off in the elevator and he dragged a guy out.
It's a famous interview, like right there, right when it happened.
And he's talking about how I just dragged him out, man.
His face is peeling off.
He had no skin.
He just, a bomb just went off, just blew up the whole elevator, man.
And this is right when it happened.
Why would he be bullshitting?
He's talking about.
joe rogan
Well, it is also possible that something could have blown up inside because of the fire.
Just to say, I mean, just as a random, but here's what's crazy, man.
The Larry Silverstein, the guy who owned Building 7 or Building Tower 7.
Yeah, you know, all of them.
He won an $861 million award from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of World Tower 7 because his estimated investment was only $386 million.
So he net a profit of roughly $500 million.
eddie bravo
Just on that tower.
joe rogan
Just on that tower.
eddie bravo
The third tower that no one talks about.
The third tower that no one talks about.
It's not in the official government 911 commission report.
They left it out.
And even those documentaries that try to debunk all the 911 shit.
They try to debunk everything that truthers, that's what they call them, bring up, but they won't touch Tower 7.
It was an hour.
And anything on National Geographic, any of those documentaries, I firmly believe the CIA has their hand in those documentaries.
We know that the CIA has always been involved in Hollywood and always been involved in TV.
Look up Harry Anslinger, the dude who made weed illegal in 1937.
He was the first drug czar.
He was involved after all the drug stuff that he did.
He got involved in governing and supervising Hollywood to make sure there weren't any communists in Hollywood or any pro-communist movies.
This is all documented.
CIA had control of Hollywood and they have their power in there.
And I believe this is like every documentary on the National Geographic channel that goes over 911 or any kind of conspiracy theory, that the narrators are just making fun of conspiracy theorists and conspiracy theorists.
They think this.
I'm like, what kind of show is it?
It's so biased.
And they never cover Tower 7.
And these shows, there's a 911 debunking documentary on National Geographic that they don't cover Tower 7.
They cover everything else, but except Tower 7 because they don't have an answer for that.
They can't prove that shit.
They can't prove it fell.
They can't convince anybody that a 47-story skyscraper, steel scrape will implode all at once, all the columns blow out at once from fire.
joe rogan
Check out what was there.
Here's some of the building's tenants.
Ready?
U.S. Secret Service.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
The NSA.
The CIA.
The IRS.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
The SEC, NAIC Securities, Salomon Smith-Barney, Solomon Smith-Barney, American Express Bank International, Standard Chartered Bank, Provident Financial Management.
It's all like these fucking big giant banks and government all together.
Just a fucking cunt farm.
A big honeyhive of cunts.
eddie bravo
Destroy the evidence.
joe rogan
That's incredible.
eddie bravo
Right?
joe rogan
Could you imagine what happened?
eddie bravo
And then check this out.
It was a controlled demo, so it must have taken weeks to set up.
So they must have, like, you got to investigate the security.
Who's running security here?
Guess who's the head of security in Tower 7?
unidentified
Marv Bush, George Bush's brother.
joe rogan
What?
eddie bravo
Come on.
Yes.
Dude, Google that.
Marv Bush.
joe rogan
Oh, I know.
eddie bravo
Security.
unidentified
Yes.
eddie bravo
Yes.
His brother is in charge of security at Tower 7.
How hilarious is that?
joe rogan
He's pretty funny.
eddie bravo
If that doesn't fucking make your bullshit meter just fucking go off the Richter.
Come on.
joe rogan
It does, but it all seems, it's like, how do you get a, how do you pass a lie?
How do you get people to believe a lie?
Make it so big they can't not believe it.
Make it so.
eddie bravo
People always say this.
unidentified
You know how many people who would take to orchestrate that, they would never be able to get away with it.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
Yes, they do because they control the media.
How about, and this is on YouTube too.
This is on YouTube.
They're reporting, the BBC is reporting that Tower 7 went collapsed and it's still up.
joe rogan
20 minutes.
Also, because they thought it was going to collapse.
Apparently.
eddie bravo
Isn't that kind of fishing?
It's like, you know what that says?
That says they already had scripted shit ready to go.
They already gave them shit.
They already gave them shit.
joe rogan
Just to play devil's advocate, it also could be that the firemen had said there's some dangerous creaking and noises and they think that this building's going to fall down.
It is possible.
eddie bravo
That's all planet shit.
joe rogan
Maybe, ma'am, but I'm not a fucking scientist.
I don't really know.
eddie bravo
I know as a host of the show, you want to be neutral.
You want to be on the fence, but you know goddamn well that that's some bullshit that went down with 911.
If you look into it unbiased with an open mind, you look at all the evidence, just decide to look at all the evidence.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
I feel about 911 very similar to the way I feel about that Philip Corso's son saying it's a time machine.
unidentified
Come on.
joe rogan
Alias are a time machine.
It's possible.
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
eddie bravo
If I had to guess, very smart.
joe rogan
If I had to guess, I would always say.
eddie bravo
You sniff out bullshit.
Very good.
You sniff out bullshit way better than I do, dude.
How many guys have like, you know, over the years, like, dudes that try to like go into business with me for whatever?
You know, instantly you go, that guy's full of shit.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
That guy's full of shit.
bullshit meter is strong, dude.
You got one of those high-tech alien fucking bullshit meters from the future.
Your bullshit meter is going off on the inside on all the 911 shit.
joe rogan
Well, see, the problem with that is that's not where my bullshit meter works best.
My bullshit meter, rather, works best with people.
I need to talk to people.
If I talk to people, I can see who's full of shit.
I can see who's hiding something.
There's a tick, an insecure aspect to the way they're interacting.
It's not just modesty or social weirdness.
I can see deception.
I can see when someone's full of shit.
I'm pretty good at that.
But this, see, I don't like fucking with my own head.
So whenever I look at something like this, I have to factor in all these different things.
I have to factor in possible incompetence, the need and desire to think that everything's a conspiracy to the point where, like I said, people have convinced other people that I am some sort of a government agent.
I've actually read that.
It's hilarious.
It's fucking absolutely, completely ridiculous.
But someone will look for a conspiracy in everything.
That would be enough to be.
eddie bravo
Come on.
That would be brilliant.
And you think about it when they're like, if you were part of the elite, there's a lot of smart motherfuckers.
I'm sure they're brilliant people part of the elite.
If you were in charge of coming up with ways to keep the power and to take liberties away and to take the power from the people, like really, I bet, I'm just guessing the people at the top, there are people at the top.
I bet they're really concerned with keeping their power and however they keep that.
They don't want to lose their power.
Nobody wants to lose their power.
They want to keep, so whatever they got to do to keep their power, it's just the human condition.
Anybody that was at the top, there'd be a lot of motherfuckers, just regular people.
You put them at the top, they'd be like, maybe we should fucking, how do we calm them down?
Yeah, are you sure that'll work?
Okay, let's spray motherfuckers with chemtrails.
Okay, let's do that shit.
That's a good idea.
I'd be in the Illuminati boardroom going, yeah, let's spray motherfuckers.
They'll never see it coming.
They think it's just fucking clouds.
Just keep making the lines.
No one believes that shit.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but we've been caught before.
And there's been a treaty, a UN treaty in 1977 that we can't spray the people no more.
We can't test airborne bacteria on the people no more.
We have to stop.
Fuck it.
Let's just keep doing it.
You know what I mean?
And now, first, it's just regular contrails.
Now, like all the geoengineering shit's coming out.
Now it's like, there's a guy, there's a guy in a documentary saying, that's just contrails.
It's not barium and aluminum.
But in the future, we are going to have to spray barium and aluminum because that's going to be the only way to combat global warming.
In the future, we're going to have to do it.
But that's not it right now.
Like, dude, what the fuck?
They're slowly prepping us for geoengineering, protecting the planet.
You know what I mean?
There's no way there's these military jets flying all over the world, making grids right above us.
And there's no way.
They're doing it right above us.
joe rogan
Are you absolutely convinced that chemtrails are chemicals and that it's not just a reaction between the moisture in the atmosphere and the turbines and the jet engines?
eddie bravo
Those are contrails.
Contrails disappear within 20, 30 seconds.
joe rogan
Are you sure about this?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
You really do know?
So how is this possible that they can just get away with this?
eddie bravo
They can, dude, they got away with 911.
They can do anything they want.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean, this is a regular daily thing, right?
eddie bravo
Yes.
joe rogan
You're saying all over the country, and no one's talking.
eddie bravo
All over the world, except Japan, because they're not part of NATO.
So they don't do it.
There's no chemtrails.
Dude, I get pictures from all over the world.
People, you see me retweeting that shit.
And remember, guys, you want me to retweet some chemtrails?
It can't be just one line, dude.
Send me some alarming shit.
If I retweet a picture of one line, people aren't going to believe.
That's going to scare people away.
So anyways, what I'm saying is, for instance, there's a military base in Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.
Cuba, supposedly, our enemies, they hate us, we hate them, whatever.
But there's a military base on that island of Cuba called Guantanamo Bay.
And Americans just do whatever the fuck they want.
Their ships come in and out.
The Cubans don't want to fuck with them.
They want to start a war with these motherfuckers.
We'll jack them.
And every day, now this is not a conspiracy theory.
This is a documentary with one of the guys in charge, a military officer, he's so against Cuba, talking about and bragging about how every day they dive bomb like fighter jets down into downtown Havana.
They dive bomb below and just scare them every day.
And he says this on camera and all proud, like all about waving the flag, all proud because we do that every day because when we decide to attack them, they'll never see it coming.
So that's an example of classic military operation, like Operation Northwoods.
They have a pattern.
They do shit over.
So to me, and we have ex-military Air Force and Marine people getting into weather, like getting on the news, reporting the weather.
There's two separate guys that are on TV and anytime they look at chemtrails, they'll talk about, well, those aren't real clouds.
I don't know what the military is doing up there, but they're spraying a thing called chaff.
And chaff is aluminum, barium, and it's to get a radar of the whole area.
So that's proving.
joe rogan
Whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
eddie bravo
It's called chaff.
joe rogan
They're spraying something in the air so they can get radar?
eddie bravo
Yes, because of metallic particles, heart.
So if you just spray a whole area with, this is what they do in the military.
This is not a conspiracy.
That's how they do it in the military.
They spray aluminum and barium to get a radar map and to jam radars.
They jam radars and to map out locations as well.
joe rogan
Because it map out locations like you detect the Where all the metallic particles land, you know what I mean?
eddie bravo
So they do that already.
They've been doing that since the 40s.
They do cloud seed.
And how do you cloud seed?
You put barium in the sky, and all these tests of all these people are going there.
They're spraying, all the tests are coming back with high levels of aluminum, high levels of barium.
And then the military, it's just so happens what the military sprays.
It's called, they call it chaff.
In the military, it's called chaff.
And guess what?
They're fucking, I don't know why they're doing it, but they're spraying chaff over a lot of major cities in the United States and all over the world, all over England.
They're spraying chaff.
And it can be two things.
If I was running the elite and I say, you know what?
Spray, even make it benign just to throw them off.
Just spray, put something in the atmosphere.
Get them used to all these weird lines.
Don't put any aluminum.
Don't put any barium because once they start testing it, they're going to, you know, they'll find out that it's totally benign.
But just get them used to it.
That's what I would do.
I would just get the people used to it so that when it's time, you know, if it gets crazy and a revolution comes, dude, all we got to do is just keep doing what we're doing.
They'll never see it coming.
People will start dying.
unidentified
Aren't they going to be able to do that?
joe rogan
And they don't want them here too, though.
eddie bravo
Who knows where they're at?
And I believe, this is what I believe.
I believe that the pilots don't really even know what the fuck they're doing.
I believe they think they're like trying to, they're claiming that it's for global warming and it's to protect the atmosphere.
That we're at the stage now where we're at the stage now where they're admitting that that's what they're going to have to do.
We haven't been doing it.
joe rogan
Who's admitted this?
eddie bravo
Dude, there's so much shit on the government.
Go on my YouTube channel.
joe rogan
Go on my YouTube channel.
eddie bravo
Go on my YouTube channel and go on the playlist, chemtrails.
I got mad.
Dude.
You know, what's the difference between Google and YouTube?
It's all internet.
joe rogan
Well, that's true.
eddie bravo
It's visual shit.
joe rogan
You make the decision.
Well, you have to.
You kind of have to.
eddie bravo
People are talking on video.
You make the decision.
Are they full shit?
You look at them and then you look at the evidence, the video evidence.
You know, most people thought OJ was guilty and they didn't.
There was no pictures.
There was no video.
joe rogan
Do you know Joey Diaz calls you chemtrails sometimes?
eddie bravo
Exactly.
joe rogan
How's chemtrails doing?
eddie bravo
Dude, you know what?
I think anonymous should be trying to get to the bottom of why the military is spraying aluminum and barium.
It fucks our body.
I'm looking to, it fucks up our immune system.
It fucks up our respiratory system.
I think if there is, if there's no barium or aluminum, and they're just, I think they're just getting us used to it because when shit goes down, look at the way shit's going now.
They're taking away all our liberties.
Look at all the shit, the way they're reacting and battling Occupy Wall Street and all that shit.
They're making it illegal to protest in front of this and that.
The way that shit's going, it looks like they're trying to control a revolution.
What better way to control a revolution to just spray these motherfuckers?
That's the best way.
What do you got another way?
Show me another way.
That's the best way.
Get them used to the lines.
And then if they get too crazy, we'll just spray them.
It'll be so easy to calm them down.
We could put anything in those clouds.
And it's in the water.
It's in the air.
Dude, it's brilliant what they're doing.
joe rogan
Do you know that there's photos of chemtrails or what looks like chemtrails?
Same thing from like the 1940s?
eddie bravo
Absolutely.
They've been doing it.
Dude, they've been testing it on.
They've been doing it in the military since from the 40s to the 60s on over 300 cities, dude.
That's why in 1977, they had to put a halt to it.
They had to put a halt to it.
It was ridiculous.
They were doing it for over 20 years straight.
And in the military, that's classic shit.
How do you battle?
How would you fuck up the enemy?
Spray shit all over them, dude, using chemical weapons.
That's old school.
They've been doing that shit forever.
They did it in Vietnam with Agent Orange.
They've been doing it in the Middle East.
They've been doing it World War I, World War II.
Just spraying motherfuckers.
That's the chemical warfare?
That's the easiest shit.
Just fuck them up with the, you don't even have to drop bombs on them.
You don't have to destroy the buildings or anything.
Just spray whatever you want.
Something that's going to debilitate them slowly.
I mean, for people to think that it's impossible, it already happened.
They had to stop it in 1977.
It was a treaty.
joe rogan
This is something you're kind of obsessed with.
eddie bravo
Dude, I see it every goddamn day.
joe rogan
You're absolutely convinced?
That's what I'm saying?
eddie bravo
I'm absolutely convinced.
Dude, I don't put anything past.
joe rogan
I don't put anything past the government.
eddie bravo
I believe there's some shady shit going on.
Those aren't commercial airlines.
I see them coming out of there.
Because I pay attention.
joe rogan
I think they're like a telescope and shit.
eddie bravo
Dude, I've been on between Burbank and LAX.
I've been on like 10,000 flights.
I know the flight patterns.
I could look up in the sky and know if that's a commercial airline or if it's a jet.
Commercial airlines don't fly straight up like rockets and then come across.
If you pay attention, like, you know, birdwatchers, right?
Like, how do you know?
joe rogan
How do they keep this shit quiet?
eddie bravo
They do anything they want.
This is above, they'll do anything they want, dude.
You can't stop them.
joe rogan
You think this is just practice?
eddie bravo
It could be practice or we could be right in the middle of it.
joe rogan
How much time during the day do you think about this shit?
eddie bravo
Every time I drive and I fucking see the sky ruined.
joe rogan
But what if it wasn't that?
What if it really would just be a challenge?
I hope, dude.
eddie bravo
I hope I'm wrong about chemtrails, dude.
joe rogan
Because there's a lot of websites that debunk it.
Well, not just one or two, but there's a lot of like scientific websites that really debunk chemtrails.
eddie bravo
Well, just like there's a lot of websites that debunk 911.
All I know is military jets are making fucking clouds, and who knows the exact reason, but we have evidence of military people on a news, on weather reports talking about chaff.
They're reporting on the chaff, and they're spraying aluminum and barium in this fucking cloud.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean, to say that all of that is what you're seeing, and that sometimes, you know, they may have done tests in the past, but what you're seeing when you see this crisscrossing clouds, I mean, if you talk to a pilot, they explain it in that it's just something when atmospheric, when water in the atmosphere encounters the jet engines, and it creates these things.
eddie bravo
It's a contrail.
joe rogan
Contrails.
Depending on how much water is in the atmosphere, it can actually create clouds.
eddie bravo
The numbers that they give out, they have like the temperatures.
Give me the temperature of what it needs to be.
I need to be like 30,000 feet in the air.
Like the humidity and the temperature.
They can't, like, what's the difference between contrails and chemtrails?
They can give you the difference.
joe rogan
But what's the difference?
They have come from commercial aircrafts.
Do you think they're doing this?
eddie bravo
No, no, those are contrails.
The ones from commercial airlines are contrails.
joe rogan
But they look the same, the same sometimes.
There's photos of them that show like commercial aircrafts and it looks like a chemtrail.
eddie bravo
No, no, but if you pay attention And you look at it, you'll see that it disappears.
It won't last forever.
There's a big difference between the ones that last the whole day and ones that disappear within 30 seconds.
The ones that disappear are totally a natural phenomenon.
It's the jet engine with the heat with the ice crystals, but it's different.
We already know the military sprays aluminum and barium, and we know that when they do that, it leaves shit on the weather report.
They have to explain what it is because of the aluminum, because of the barium.
The weatherman has to explain that that's just military aluminum and barium.
They're explaining that.
It's already done.
joe rogan
They've been doing it in Abu Dhabi for the past year.
They make it rain once a week in Abu Dhabi.
eddie bravo
They put chemicals in the sky.
joe rogan
Yeah.
eddie bravo
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's called cloud seeding.
eddie bravo
Cloud seeding them.
I'm sure there's barium or it's either barium.
joe rogan
Aluminum or something.
eddie bravo
Yeah, that's what they're spraying, and that's what they do with chaff.
They do it.
joe rogan
What is harp?
What the fuck is harp?
eddie bravo
You don't know what harp is?
joe rogan
I don't know exactly.
I know it's scary.
Jesse Ventura says it's bad.
eddie bravo
Dude, it's...
joe rogan
It's one of those things where you...
eddie bravo
It used to be a scientific project.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're like shooting something into the ionosphere.
eddie bravo
It's like a football field filled with all these electrical coils that make like a billion, and they can direct a billion watts into the atmosphere.
They're experimenting with the ionosphere or whatever the fuck that means.
They're shooting electricity into the atmosphere and experimenting with it.
Some people think they're experimenting with weather control and you love conspiracies, though.
No, but now it's not a scientific project.
Now it's top secret and now it's all Air Force military top secret.
They won't tell anybody what it is.
It does exist.
Punch and harp.
It's not a conspiracy.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
It's real.
But what they're doing is a conspiracy.
eddie bravo
Yeah, who knows?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's fascinating.
It's fascinating.
But you fucking love this shit, dude.
eddie bravo
You get to dude.
I hope I'm wrong, dude.
I hope I'm wrong.
joe rogan
But I really do.
I know you do.
eddie bravo
If someone proved it to me that I was wrong, dude, I would admit it and I would love it and I would feel great.
I'd be like, fuck, I don't have to worry about it.
joe rogan
So when you read the sites that debunk chemtrails, you just don't find their arguments effective?
eddie bravo
No, no.
It's the same people that think that 911 collapsed do fires.
It's those same people, that same mentality, they refuse.
It's like a game to them.
They just want to be right.
You look at all the evidence.
We already have evidence.
It's military chaff.
We already know that.
They're already talking about geoengineering.
They were talking about it in 1996 that they were going to have to suspend metallic particles in the air.
Zachariah Sitchin was talking about this in the 70s, that that was going to happen.
That was, you know, he said, that's how the Anunnaki, that's how they, that's how they protected their atmosphere by so-called.
joe rogan
How fun is it to get high and talk about the Anunnaki?
I mean, I don't know if the Anunnaki was real or not, but god damn, would it be fun if they were real?
But it would so suck if they were real.
If it turned out that we weren't the apex of the biological life of the universe, if we're not the top of the heap, we're fucked, man, because someone's going to treat us the way we treat everything else.
So if the Anunnaki are real, you should really hope they're not real.
You should hope that we become the Anunnaki.
You should hope that the Philip Corso Jr. version is the best version.
The fact that it's a time machine and we're going to become that in the future, that seems to me to make more sense.
eddie bravo
There's probably, who knows, man, when it comes to UFOs, every day now, in the science community, in astrophysics, we're finding there's, you get all this information coming out that there's all these new Earths that they're predicting.
There's just Earths everywhere and there's life teeming in our galaxy everywhere.
On the daily, they're finding evidence like, holy shit, there's probably a billion fucking Earths in our galaxy or some shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's pretty crazy when you start thinking about the possibilities.
eddie bravo
That possibilities are endless.
They're really crazy.
joe rogan
And that life seeds from other planets getting hit by asteroids and it's all a natural product of the process.
eddie bravo
Dude, think about this.
If there's a million Earths in this galaxy, let's just say a million.
How many of those Earths are ahead of us in technology?
I'm sure there's some that are not as far as we've come, but there's just the odds.
You look at like a scientist, there's a million, right?
That you would say, let's just say a thousand are way ahead of us.
God damn it, that's a thousand races.
A thousand races.
There must be a galactic federation.
joe rogan
There must be.
eddie bravo
There must be.
joe rogan
I think maybe we get to be like a little bit smarter than this, and then we just blow shit up over and over again.
I think that's what we do.
eddie bravo
You know what?
There's a possibility that out of all the earths and all the human-like creatures within the front of the line.
Yeah, like maybe 70% of them don't make it.
You know, like in the Roman times, there was a 50% mortality rate.
When you have a kid, there's 50% chance that it's going to die in Roman times.
So maybe it's like that.
Maybe there's 50% chance that we get to a point and we just blow ourselves up because corruption takes over and evil just takes over.
And then there's a small percentage.
Maybe it's like 10%, 20% of all these Earth-like planets that actually get past that and we all connect and we're all living like that.
joe rogan
Like we've seen that when they have like a category one society, you know, level one society and level two that, you know, I think Michio Kaku has done this, like explaining the different levels of, you know, societies that can get to a point where they get away from physical violence, then they can, you know, use, harness the power of the stars, then space travel and all sorts of different categories.
And that we're like on the verge of becoming significant.
eddie bravo
Yeah, there's, there's, I personally believe just based on just basic odds, that there is a galactic federation and maybe we are just, we don't know about it.
Maybe the elite know about it and they're communicating with them, but the people we don't want the elite.
There are elite, there are people at the top.
They're not all at the bottom.
There's people at the top.
joe rogan
There's a very real, I think, a very real possibility that our number one problem is that we're separated from this idea of how connected we all to each other because Psychedelics are illegal.
That's why this world and this country that we live in, this government that we're run under is so fucked up and corrupt because they don't deserve to be in the position they're at.
They've never had a life-changing experience to the point where they have experienced that other side of possible reality that comes from the psychedelic experience.
You can't get past that.
It's unbelievably humbling.
And you should be looking for that in a leader.
You shouldn't want a leader that hasn't had psychedelic experiences because that's a person that hasn't really faced whatever the fuck that is.
When you strip away culture, when you strip away language, and you just see truth and love in this humbling, bare form that just like rips you to your core and makes you sort of rebuild and restructure who you are as a human being.
A lot of those motherfuckers have never had that, man.
There's a lot of people that are out there running around flapping their gums that have never really been humbled by life.
They've never really been humbled by a psychedelic experience, which is a part of life.
It's not just a choice.
I think it's a part of life.
It certainly is a choice.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
Don't do it if you don't do drugs and you can't handle even a drink.
Don't do anything you're not comfortable with.
But it's a part of life, man.
That's why it's here.
That's why it works on you.
The reason why it works is because it's here to work for you.
It's a part of you.
You're a part of a giant system.
Get some mushrooms in your head, bitch.
Right?
eddie bravo
Yeah, man.
I got to take off, bro.
joe rogan
I got to end this too.
eddie bravo
How long did we go?
joe rogan
Almost three hours, son.
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God.
joe rogan
Two hours and 57 minutes.
Beautiful.
How fun was that?
eddie bravo
Did we do enough MMA?
I don't want people pissed off.
joe rogan
We did a lot of shit.
It was a beautiful thing, man.
These conversations are so fun.
eddie bravo
Effortless.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
It was great.
I love doing that.
I'm going to do more of these one-on-one conversations.
I think sometimes it's different.
You know, it mixes it up a little bit.
We got a lot of cool guests this week, though.
I think Chael Simmons this week.
I'm not sure.
I got a call.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
Right.
That's going to be awesome.
eddie bravo
When is that?
joe rogan
I don't know, soon.
Honda Rousey, she's going to be soon.
I ran into her at the UFC looking good as ever.
eddie bravo
And like I mentioned to you before, Kat Von D is interested.
joe rogan
Is she really?
I would love to have her on.
eddie bravo
She's just been on the road.
She's been on the road and she's been having like, there's some personal turmoil going on right now, but she wants to go on the coffee.
joe rogan
How cool would that be?
I love her artwork, man.
I love looking at it.
She does like a sketchy day.
eddie bravo
She did.
She did my grandma on my chest.
joe rogan
It's beautiful, too.
It's amazing.
All right, that's it, folks.
We're going to have a death squad show this weekend at the Ice House in Pasadena on Friday night.
It's only 85 seats, and they always sell out.
I don't know who's there.
It's Freddie Lockhart for sure.
Me for sure.
Red Band for sure.
And a bunch of other talented people in the air.
Oh, Tony Henchcliffe, who's going to host it.
There's a bunch of talented local guys.
And then we do a podcast out of the Ice House called the Ice House Chronicles.
And that podcast is only available on Death Squad, which is a different thing on iTunes.
It's Brian's whole setup.
So we will see you then.
And tomorrow, Duncan Trussell is going to come on.
And just me and Duncan are going to sit down.
And we're going to talk about the universe and figure out this whole squad squabble that he has with Brian.
That's the end of the podcast, bitches.
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