Eddie Bravo and Joe Rogan dive into JFK’s assassination, questioning CIA agent E. Howard Hunt’s role and Oswald’s suspicious arrest, then debate 9/11—Tower 7’s collapse, missing Pentagon wreckage, and Donald Rumsfeld’s $2.3T fund gap—with Rogan dismissing the "magic bullet" theory as physically implausible. They mock political figures like Obama (chosen post-Bush to ease unrest) and Sarah Palin’s VP pick, while musing on simulated realities and holographic tech’s future in entertainment. The conversation pivots to martial arts, praising Nick Diaz vs. Braulio Estima’s upcoming "super fight" and Jon Jones’ dominance, contrasting it with Fabricio Werdum’s heavyweight guard and Alistair Overeem’s alleged struggles. Rogan ties skill mastery to repetition, like Jimi Hendrix or Marcelo Garcia, before teasing his Atlanta comedy special on 420 and future guests like Tommy Segura, wrapping up with sponsor plugs for The Fleshlight (15% off via ROGAN) and Onnit’s nootropics. [Automatically generated summary]
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I think that most things that are, as far as feel and sensual things, like music and stuff along those lines, most of those things are accentuated by marijuana.
Dude, it's one of the coolest things that I hear when we go on the road, when we do comedy shows, is how many people come up to me after the show and tell me that they start doing jujitsu after they listen to the podcast.
No one ever really gave a fuck about the dudes in the crazy, you know, hair and makeup doing that because everybody knew they were doing that because they were rock stars and they got insane amounts of pussy.
It's like, it was never even, I mean, even if you were like, oh, look at what they're doing.
And Ogie, you're wearing crazy lipstick and crazy makeup.
You see, what's really important, though, real journalism is really important, but it's real scary, and it's really dangerous.
Like, for someone to really dig deep, like, Matt Taibbi-style into the inner workings of the government and corruption and Goldman Sachs and all that shit, dude, that's terrifying.
With that kind of shit, we need a lot of that.
There's a lot of chaos and corruption going on.
And it just seems every year like it's more and more just a part of the way we just accept how this life is set up.
I mean, the situation that we're in right now is amazing because this is the first time where people have really kind of truly been aware of how the whole system runs.
And you look at all these different National Defense Authorization Act and this new one that doesn't allow you to do any protests where there's Secret Service anywhere nearby.
You can get arrested.
It's a felony, which means you can go to jail for over a year.
For protesting, which is supposed to be a part of our constitutional rights, the right to protest, but they just recently passed a law, Obama signed it, that if you protest in front of Secret Service agents, well, Secret Service agents are protecting someone.
It could be a candidate, it could be a journalist, someone who works for the White House, whoever the fuck the Secret Service is protecting, if you are protesting in front of them, that's a felony.
These hookers were allowed inside their hotel rooms where they had itineraries for what Obama's schedule was while he's going to be visiting and stuff like that.
So, dude, speaking of Secret Service, I watched the, you know, there's these folks at this production company that used to do that Jesse Ventura show, the Conspiracy Theory show.
And I was talking to them about this idea that they have.
I was talking to them about this idea that they had, and as we got talking, somehow or another we got to talking about conspiracy theories because of that show.
And what they wanted that show to be, what it ultimately became, and how they weren't happy with the direction that it all went.
But they started talking to me about JFK. And they're like, have you seen our special on JFK? I'm pretty familiar with the case.
I know it pretty well.
I've read several books about it.
I've watched a bunch of different documentaries on it.
Well, they gave me the Jesse Ventura episode of it.
Well, you know, they set up a rifle thing where you could see the distance of how far he was shooting from the window and how accurate you could be with that rifle in that amount of time, six seconds, fire off three shots.
And you watch that and you go, wow, that's not likely.
Because he wanted to abolish the CIA. Yeah, I think Lee Harvey Oswald probably wasn't innocent.
I mean, it was pretty obvious that Lee Harvey Oswald was some sort of a government agent.
But it seems more than likely, when you look at all the evidence about how fucking ridiculous the whole scenario was, the way they were parading him in that open area where it was totally unprotected, the president with the roof down, and they slowed down around the turn, the Secret Service guys were- There's so much shit, right?
There's so much shit.
This is a setup.
They set this up and they killed that fucking guy.
And the scary thing about it is how many people are willing to come up with this weird, irrational...
Explanation for why this one bullet did all these unlikely things and then wound up on the gurney and the only reason for that is because that one bullet helps negate the possibility of conspiracy and attribute all three bullets to one guy and it's the only real reason to do it And the only reason they had to attribute this one bullet to all these wounds was because there was a man under the underpass, and this guy got hit in the face by a ricochet.
The bullet hit the curb right in front of him, and the curb stone came up and fucked his head up.
So this guy had to go to the hospital, and he told them what happened.
So they knew that was a shot that was in the record, and they knew there was one other wound to Kennedy that was in the record.
So the head shot Before the headshot, the one that hit him in the back had to do all of his damage and then all the damage to Governor Connolly as well.
So that's the only reason why they attributed it to this one bullet.
And then they magically find this bullet on a gurney in the hospital.
And then the bullet doesn't even have any damage to it.
The bullet looks like a bullet that's been fired through water.
It doesn't look like a bullet looks when it goes through two human beings.
It just doesn't.
Period.
I mean, it's nonsense.
Every single test that they've ever done where they've tried to duplicate it, they haven't been able to.
Mythbusters wasn't able to.
Every time they hit bone, it fucked that bullet up.
It shattered that bullet.
The bullet was all contorted and twisted.
Not the magic bullet.
The magic bullet came out in near pristine condition, like they shot it into a million pillows.
Yeah, well the photos of E. Howard Hunt are ridiculous because there's a photo of him.
They arrested three hobos.
They were arrested, by the way, right outside the area where the grassy knoll is, where supposedly the headshot came from.
The reason why Kennedy's head goes back and to the left.
And there's a photo of him when they were arresting these three hobos.
These hobos were not hobos, man.
They looked like young men, healthy people.
They didn't look like there was anything wrong with them.
They didn't look fucked up.
And E. Howard Hunt is clearly in that photo.
You can pull the photo up.
E. Howard Hunt JFK assassination photo.
And there's an...
Yeah, that's it, man.
So you can see him.
See that guy with the hat in the back?
That is E. Howard Hunt.
And they've taken photo images and put his face over the face of E. Howard Hunt.
His bone structure and everything, it matches exactly.
That guy was a killer!
That guy was a fucking killer and he was hanging out behind the grassy knoll.
They arrested those guys and then let them free.
Didn't charge them with shit.
Yeah, didn't charge him with shit.
Despite all the evidence that there was someone in the grassy knoll shooting guns, there was all these people saying that shots were coming from behind them that were standing in front of the grassy knoll.
They had all these witnesses.
And a huge amount of people mysteriously died that were witnesses to this shit.
A huge amount.
There was a documentary they did where they talked about the odds What the odds were that all these people who had witnessed the Kennedy assassination would be killed in either violent murders or horrible car accidents or fires or train track accidents where they parked their car on train tracks.
They killed a lot of fucking people, man.
It's really possible that they tied up all the loose ends.
It's really possible that they killed the president and then they went out and they killed a whole bunch of people that might have been able to tell that they killed the president.
And they cleaned that shit up nice, and they put it in a big book, and they called it the Warren Commission Report, and then there you go.
See, the thing about 1 and 2 that a lot of people don't know when we're talking about the towers that fell, this crazy 911 conspiracy shit, fuck you, Rogan, I'm shutting this off right now!
Towers 1 and Tower 2 were really the only tower that we know of that's ever been hit by a full jumbo jet, full fuel like that.
Who knows?
It might have been that design just was not really the right way to go if you're going to get hit by a fucking plane.
Because if you watch the way 1 and 2 fall, to me, they fall like a building that's falling apart, which is what I would assume would happen if it started crumbling and crushing.
It would fall apart that way.
When you look at Tower 7, though, Tower 7, it goes into its base.
It collapses into its base.
It doesn't collapse from the top down and pancake like 1 and 2. There's video of it.
Do you think, though, here's an alternate explanation.
Do you think that Tower 7, first of all, was the less sinister possibility?
Tower 7 was home to a lot of different organizations, right?
It wasn't the NSA, and there was a lot of different physical records that were kept there that were lost.
Completely in the demolition.
Is it possible that if you have a place or a building that's filled with so much sensitive information, so much dangerous, sensitive information, that they might have built it with the design to implode it whenever they wanted to, in the case of a breach, in case of the possibility of losing all that information to other governments or what have you?
But I'm saying one of the things that's interesting is even though it does go in like a controlled demolition, it doesn't blow out like a controlled demolition.
It's almost like maybe they just did a really sweet one.
I'm saying that they built it to be able to do that to it.
I'm saying, from the very moment they built it, they knew that they were going to have the NSA there, they knew they were going to have the DEA documents, whatever the fuck they've got going on in there.
Whatever crazy shit, bankers, there was a lot of different, like, really high-level government organizations that were being run out of this building.
If they wanted to design it so that if anything happened, if there was a fire one day, they could just crush it.
I want to see a picture, a backpack, the whole front lawn where everything's all fucked up and there's suitcases and there's tennis shoes and there's shit that you see and there's been plenty of planes wrecking.
Yeah, when let me see if this is the one This was a see see when you put all that shit together you put all that shit together like to what the fuck you guys up to?
I did talk to April Gallup, who was actually inside the room in the Pentagon, and she looked me in the eye and told me unequivocally, I saw nothing that indicated a plane hit the Pentagon.
unidentified
I felt that a bomb had exploded.
Their witnesses could always have different versions of different things.
If you put it all together, Donald Rumsfeld, the day before, talking about they just figured out their $2.3 million is missing, and then they blow it up.
Yeah, meanwhile, he's been one of the worst people we've ever had as far as taking away civil liberties.
I mean, that's not a melodramatic statement, ladies and gentlemen.
If you look up the National Defense Authorization Act and look up this new one that makes it illegal illegal, It's a felony to protest near a Secret Service agent.
It wasn't like all of a sudden he became just an evil fuck.
That's been planned.
This is all planned.
This is all bullshit.
They're slowly taking away our freedoms, day by day, in increments, and we're all just sitting there watching it fucking go, and no one's even paying attention.
I'm only like five episodes in, but I'm hardcore addicted.
It's all like, it's based on this fantasy land, this Middle Earth, you know, like, where winter is like fucking ten years long, and summer is like nine years long, and there's dragons, and...
But...
My point was, these motherfuckers are just constantly trying to jack each other to get better positions.
They're constantly worrying about being jacked by some other people coming over the hill.
They're constantly worried about getting fucked up by the dudes from the north who want back their land.
There's no difference between now and then.
We're not used to seeing dudes sword fight in the street like they were back then, but there's not that much difference between now and then.
It's all just done through different machinery and different language and different methodologies and different governments working together to do it and do it as non-violently as possible.
But when the shit hits the fan, the boys hit the shore, guns in hand, and fucking tanks rolling over the ground because somehow or another there's some shit going down in Afghanistan that it's really important that we're there to stop it.
We've got to stop Afghanistan.
What?
What?
I mean, it's so transparent, so clean.
There's really no room for it to be anything other than what it is.
It's not like the bugs are coming and we gotta fight them off, okay?
This is other people.
There's other people on the other side of the world rocking it however the fuck they do.
And for whatever reason, we gotta go in and interject and fuck with their way of life and fuck with their existence.
It's crazy.
It's really crazy.
That's not what our patriotic Americans that are serving because they really want to help this country.
That's not what they deserve.
What they deserve is to be involved in just wars only.
What they deserve is to be at home And to be with their fucking families and not have to use our resources to keep them over in some spot where they don't fucking need to be.
It's nonsense.
You're not going to fix Afghanistan.
You're out of your fucking mind.
That place is crazy.
There's one city, Kabul, and warlords everywhere.
They're like mountains and shit.
You ever see the videos of the troops bring back?
Shit, like home movies, the mountains of Afghanistan.
The real problem is there's a lot of people out there that don't have any fucking opportunity for employment.
There's fucking not much, man.
And the United States Army, Marines, Air Force, what have you, is the best career option for them.
And that's legit.
That's legit in a lot of parts of this country, man.
There's some parts of this country where dudes are trying to find a way out, you know?
And when the Marines come along and offer you guidance and discipline and a way to pay for college, you know, for a lot of dudes, that's helped them.
I know a lot of people that it's changed them for the better.
Until they use you.
Until wars break out.
Because I remember dudes, when dudes joined the Marines when there was no war.
That was a different sort of experience.
That was a guy who would join the Marines to toughen up.
But once war started happening, man, that's a completely different gig.
Because now you're actually going to go and you're going to be involved in some insane one-on-one combat where you're shooting guns at each other.
I mean, that's more than likely going to happen.
Can you imagine?
There's so few resources that that's a viable career option for a lot of people.
But it is.
You know?
We're lucky it's not us.
But it is for some folks.
And that fucking sucks.
And I think a lot of that is because so much shit gets made in other countries now.
There's not nearly the manufacturing base that America once had.
Especially with like cars and shit.
You know, we used to have like the dopest cars in the world.
You know, America had like, you know, back in the day when, you know, GM and Ford would like do battle to have like the coolest cars were like Mustangs and Camaros.
We made some cool ass shit.
But slowly but surely that just fucking fell apart.
And it's all about Michael Moore trying to find out, like he tries to get an interview with this guy who was the head of GM and find out why he did that and see what he did to this town when...
He pulled out.
I don't know if he lied to them or something happened and these people just were totally, completely unprepared for this.
And he just simply abandoned it.
And the whole town is like, it's just crazy to watch how poor people were, man.
People were selling bunnies for food or pets.
And like, you know, so you would say food and the lady like grabs the bunny.
Like she's got this bunny in her lap and she's petting it.
And you say food and she grabs the bunny by the fucking back of the head, breaks its neck.
And then just cuts it open right on camera and she's doing this.
So this lady's touching this bunny, and then when they say food or pets, she says food, so she kills it.
When you think about that life gets that hard, where you have this cute little bunny, and you're like, alright, it's snapping its neck, time to eat it.
That's like, you're getting down, that's an animalistic sort of a vibe you're getting into.
You're getting into this weird, you know, that's a weird world you're living in, man.
You're eating your pets.
I mean, that thing is, you know, that's dark.
There's one thing to separate.
We separate like the chickens are outside and I'm going to eat those chickens.
My dog, I'm not going to eat my dog.
You know, there's one thing.
But when you're eating your dog, too, you've gone into the dark zone.
You know, you've gone into this weird desperation mode.
In Florida, when I was a kid, I lived in Gainesville, and we would feed the alligators marshmallows and shit.
And they would ask you to please don't feed the alligator's marshmallows because marshmallows get in their digestive tract.
Meanwhile, these alligators would kill people's dogs.
They would kill old ladies' dogs.
I was there when it happened once.
Either it happened right before we were there or right after we were there, but my parents were really freaked out that an alligator ate a fucking ladies' dog.
She was walking along by the water and the thing just came out and snatched her dog from her.
But crocodiles will chase people.
Crocodiles will chase you.
They go after shit.
They're way more aggressive.
It's a completely different animal.
Alligators sit, and they'll just sit and wait for something to fuck up.
So that dog must have fucked up.
That dog just got too close.
But a crocodile will chase that fucking dog and might just jack the old lady.
You know, they eat people.
No problem.
This one flew four feet in the air to kill a dog.
It's amazing that people would want to keep those around.
You can't even shoot them.
They're protected.
What?
You don't think that's dangerous?
Don't you guys have kids?
You want to keep this fucking...
It's not like crocodiles are going to go extinct.
If you want them, go to Africa.
Go look at them real quick and then come back home.
You remember when I first got this house and we sat and I got a little theater room and we watched the documentaries from the BBC on the Amazon where you see that fucking crazy bird eat that ancient dinosaur fish.
I don't think there's a whole lot of people living in the Everglades.
I think there's probably some parts of the Everglades we could drive to and live in, but it looked to me like there was a lot of it that would look pretty goddamn wild.
I just got back from the desert and it was really weird seeing about the people that lived in the desert.
The roads were not maintained so you just go through these dirt roads and it looked like every single person that's a hoarder, the rich hoarders get to come out here because every house seemed like a hoarder house from just the outside.
And there was parts where I couldn't go because there was these dogs that would come in the street and block you and they just wouldn't leave.
You couldn't drive through them.
It was fucking weird, man, that The desert is weird.
But actually, there's this place that we went to that was really, really cool.
And there's like these 12 AeroStream trailers.
And each one of these trailers have been remodeled and gutted out.
Like I stayed in the 70s one.
My friend stayed in the one that was like all like 80s, like 1980s type shit.
Right.
archery shooting guns and they have one of those big teepees where you go in there and do drugs and stuff and like even on the book it's like people are like you know how they sign like hey had a great time you know they have like a book that you can sign in every one of these trailers and everyone was like dude had the best shroom trip ever like i'm tripping my ass off right now
this is what my mom looks like like just drawing pictures and the whole place seemed badass and i thought how cool would it be to rent out every single one of these trailers and just have like a big party with all your friends.
Because that's what it was.
It was designed for you just to go there and experience psychedelics, and it was the coolest thing.
It's about some god who has actual human scientists working for him to sacrifice virgins.
So the way these scientists get to sacrifice virgins is they got like CIA connections where they somehow coordinate three guys and two girls to take a trip out in the cabin in the woods for a weekend and party.
And then while they're out there, it's all an experiment.
It's all like fenced off electronically.
So these scientists are all programming.
They think they're just going out to a cabin to swim in the lake.
But they're part of a sacrifice.
And one of them is a virgin.
And...
They decide, based on what they do, there's like some magic books that they read in the cellar.
Based on what they read, they decide how they're going to die.
Are they going to have the zombies attack them?
Ghosts attack them?
Girls with no face, just a mouth attack them?
There's every giant cobras.
They're all in little boxes.
Every monster you could think of is in a little box under the lake and And based on what they read, they got the zombies, like mountain men that were killed and now they're zombies and they come out after you with horse traps and axes.
There's like three, a family.
And like the scientists are all betting, it's a comedy.
The scientists are all betting, there's like 20 scientists that are all betting on what monsters are they going to release based on reading this magic book.
I don't read them very often, man, but I tell you what, when I was a kid, they brought me great joy.
When I was a kid and I was moving around, we were moving around all over the country, the constant in my life, because when we moved a bunch of times, it takes a while to make friends.
You're in one place and then you move in two years and you're in another place.
Comic books were my constant buddy when I was a young kid.
So to me, I'll always have a special spot in my heart for comic books because I remember the effect that they had on me when I was a kid.
And that's undeniable.
To say now that I'm over that or that's ridiculous.
No, they're still cool.
They're still cool.
It's just there's other shit that's cooler for me to do with my time.
I really don't have that much time to devote to comic books, but I still love them.
It's called Stephen King on Writing, I think it's called.
Is that the name?
I think that's it.
Just look up Stephen King's book on writing if you're interested in it.
But it's a great...
Shows you how pragmatic his thinking is.
He's very honest about what it was like when he was doing a lot of drinking and doing a lot of drugs that he would black out and not even remember a book that he wrote.
He's talked about several of his books.
He doesn't remember writing them because he was just fucked up.
He's got so many, the Tommy Knockers, ooh, I loved that one, that was a great one.
It was a fucking long UFO crashed into this area like thousands of years ago and they dig into it and reactivate it or some shit and people get infected by these UFOs and start changing.
I forget the exact plot of it, but I remember it was one of my favorites.
I don't know if they did with her, but apparently, this is what I hear, I could be totally wrong, but in some Asian countries, they'll take a dude and get him on female hormones quick to make them money, like to survive.
Like, you're going to be a chick now and you're going to be a hooker.
There's one fucking story of these two lesbians that had this son.
I don't know if it was a natural birth son or an adopted son, I'm not sure.
But they had a son...
And I believe the kid was 10 and they wanted to get the kid ready for a gender reassignment because they said that the boy actually was saying that he was a girl.
But I mean, that's one of those things that you would think that someone would make up on some extreme, crazy right-wing site because it would make conservative people so fucking furious that this could happen, that someone could have this boy and at 10 years old be setting him up for gender reassignment.
What a fucking travesty that is.
It's almost like an obvious...
Attack on the gender itself.
It's like, hmm, he doesn't want to be this anymore.
He wants to be another thing like us.
He wants to be like mommy and mommy.
You know, whoa!
Could you imagine if you had to stick with the rest of your life with fucking decisions you made at 10?
Yeah, someone was, there was an article, I think on the Underground, talking about how ladyboys will fuck dudes up if dudes, you know, like, you know, some guys get, like, real disrespectful with ladyboys, but they don't realize, like, that's still a man.
That's still a man, and he probably knows how to punch, you know, fuck you up, man.
She sets up one of those things like at the bar when you put it in a quarter and you fucking smash that punching bag.
Dude, she hits harder than guys on that thing.
It's ridiculous.
If she sucker punched you, you're fucked.
So if that was a Thai chick, if it was a Thai chick that could punch like she punches and you thought you were an asshole...
You're just going to fucking push her around.
You're drunk.
And she just uncorks one on your chin.
And your legs get out.
And then she fucking shin kicks you in the face.
Yeah, that's all real, man.
A 135-pound athletic girl.
It's very possible for that chick to kick your ass if you don't know what you're doing.
That's what I say.
When I look at a girl like Tommy Jr.'s girlfriend, I say, okay, if she wanted to, if you didn't know what you were doing, and she uncorked a couple on you before you knew it was happening, you could get knocked the fuck out.
For real.
So that's like the size that you have to be, I think, to be able to survive against the average-sized human.
At least 135-pound woman.
So if you're 110 pounds, you need to get on roids.
I didn't mind Alien 3. One of the funniest, most misunderstood movies ever for me, and most people thought it was just total shit, was Freddy Got Fingered.
You don't want anybody, like, about to go over the cliff and digs the hammer into the side of the hill and saves yourself dangling over the fucking side of the cliff holding onto a hammer.
I think there's whatever you would want to call it.
There's certainly an exchange in energy and an enhancement of each other that I feel like we all have.
We all have as friends.
Everyone in this room.
Brian, for sure.
I've known Brian for a decade.
We enhance each other, for sure.
That's one of the reasons why I enjoy doing a podcast with him.
I know gay jokes, bro.
You and I, man, we enhance each other.
We've always enjoyed having these crazy conversations, even if we don't agree about a lot of shit.
And we don't agree about a lot of shit.
But we've always enjoyed it because I favor your opinion over everyone else's and treat it equally as if it was mine.
Because I know you so well, I know how your mind works.
So every time you have an opinion on something...
I accept it as if it's me having that opinion.
I allow myself to go through the whole process.
There's not a whole lot of people that you can do that with in life.
You know, there's not a whole lot of people where you go, yeah, Bob said he didn't do anything, but his fucking fingerprints were everywhere, and the murder weapon was in the street in front of his...
You know what I mean?
There's few dudes where you always know where they're coming from, you know?
And I think...
Having people like that in your life is one of the most important things.
It's more important than what you do for a living.
The most important thing is you've got to cultivate great friendships.
Because then once you cultivate great friendships, you each get better at everything else while you're involved.
In a friendship with someone who's also getting better.
I think my comedy right now, I've never felt better about it.
And one of the things that I feel really good about it is that I hear Ari is fucking killing it on the road.
I hear Ari packed it in Vancouver and fucking crushed it.
He's headlining all these places that I do.
He's headlining big places.
He's doing the comedy works in Denver.
I hear that.
It's awesome.
I take Duncan on the road with me.
He goes on stage.
He gets standing ovations, dude.
When we were in Louisville, Duncan got standing ovations every time.
Just walking on stage, they're going nuts and cheering.
That makes me feel better about comedy than anything.
There's a trick to life, and a big part of it is generosity.
The big part of it is appreciation for other people's success.
A big part of it is being around other people that are trying to go for success and enhancing each other along the way.
Having a group of people that are all doing positive shit and moving forward and doing what they want to do, man, and having it all come together.
Everybody together doing that together, that's all like a big juicy enhancement.
I mean, you don't have to do it right away, but start thinking about it, and then when you get to a position where you get just a couple free hours a week, you know, where you think you might be able to devote to that, Slide on in.
If there was a sensible person who was a real powerful Republican and he was the president and he wanted her as a vice president, at this point in time, she might actually be able to get in.
And if they could just coach her, if she would take some coaching, apparently she's not that good at taking coaching, which is one of the problems with her.
She became a maverick.
She's out there on her own, getting crazy, telling the people what she really thinks.
The more silly things happen in the news like that, the more just ridiculous scenarios play out over and over again, the more you've got to just question...
Could you imagine if it really does turn out that this whole thing is bullshit?
And you wake up one day and you and your friends just shot up with some weird electronic drug that takes you on some 40 year journey and then brings you back.
If you look at any of these movies, definitely Wapner, definitely Wapner, but they always have this memory where they can always remember a thousand things.
They're almost like on a...
What if they're a step past us and they're just not into all the gossip and bullshit of normal day lives, but yet they're fucking figuring out Right.
Well, you know, at a certain point in time, the question becomes, is all of our emotions and all of our caveman ideas and genetics, is all that really going to be effective?
Do we need all these crazy emotions?
Do we need all this weird way of interacting with each other?
After a while, can that become something else?
And it could become something that's maybe more effective mathematically?
And something that's maybe just not as inclined to be swayed by emotion, you know, that it's just like a little detached, a little detached from the human experience, but much more elevated in a certain way.
I mean, we look at it like it's a disease, but on some of them, maybe it's not, you know?
Well, it pretty much is, like, a foldable LCD screen where you'll be able to, like, in the future, I don't know what that one is, but the technology's out where...
Eventually we'll have walls where that will be a screen.
And you can turn it onto a texture or a color of a wall.
You can turn on a TV on the wall.
You can make windows where we'll be able to Skype in one corner and on the other side have a fireplace.
There was dark times in this species history where people were just scrounging and scratching, and it got to the point where fat, obese people were sexy because they were desirable.
It's so rare.
So rare someone just can lay around and do nothing and eat.
But if you have any scenario where a chick says something stupid, even if you generalize and say a chick shouldn't be president, I don't think men should give birth either.
Don't get me wrong.
I mean, it's not an even exchange here.
But I certainly am not a misogynist by any stretch of the imagination or anything.
I try to be as nice as possible about it, especially now, especially when you're talking to a chick.
A lot of times chicks are a little bit more sensitive to criticism or the potential possibility that you're a mean asshole and you're going to say something mean to her.
The feminist video is a perfect example of me trying to not get into a thing with her.
I didn't want to...
I was trying to be nice.
I try to be nice always, until you can't be nice anymore, and then you're like, get out of here, bitch.
It's not my preference.
My preference is certainly to be nice.
And you too, man.
One of the nicest guys I know.
One of the cool things about Jiu-Jitsu is that the dudes that do it, generally speaking, are so much more relaxed, ego-wise.
You meet so many nice guys.
So many people, when they have their ego in check, when they do jiu-jitsu, it's fucking hard.
It's not easy to go out there and put your ass on the line.
You work all day and you're tired.
Then you go to a fucking jiu-jitsu class, especially when you're a beginner.
That shit is hard as fuck.
You get your ass kicked.
It's terrible.
But if you can get through that gauntlet, if you can get through that, become a blue belt, become a purple belt, there's certain qualities that those guys have about them.
They're just more relaxed.
Like Mike Maxwell, the guy who does my poster.
Do you see my poster that I did for the Chicago show?
No.
Dude, this guy's so talented.
And he just did another one for me for the Atlanta show.
But he's got that same sort of personality about him.
He's a great guy.
He's easy going because the dude trains.
He trains.
He gets...
He doesn't have any weird insecurity issues like a lot of people have.
There's a lot of dudes out there, I think, in not having a martial art.
Obviously, I'm extremely biased when I voice this opinion.
It's not for everybody.
Obviously, I don't think it's for Brian.
Everybody's personality is different.
Brian has no desire to do any of that stuff.
But for a lot of people, they do.
But you're not insecure about getting in a situation where you get into a fight with guys.
You'll just get out of there.
There's a lot of guys who when their manhood is threatened, they want to puff up their chest and they can get in trouble and it's a scary moment for them.
But for a lot of people, it can fucking help tremendously.
It's a missing part of our lives.
Our whole body, the system, the way the mind operates is all essentially set up for conflict.
We're set up for physical activity, for conflict.
We're set up for figuring out who's the alpha of the chimpanzee, the human thing, whatever the fuck we are.
Every animal has alpha, every primate rather, has like that alpha structure.
And that's what we have too.
We have this constant competition.
But it doesn't happen.
Instead, it manifests itself as business, which is weird and buttoned down with strange clothes and weird rules and no swears.
There's a lot of restrictions.
There's a lot of suppressing the true instincts of the animal, the human organism.
And Jiu-Jitsu allows you to express the true instincts of the animal organism in a safe way that actually you benefit from and you develop character from.
You know, and there's a real benefit to that, that obviously you experience, obviously I experience, and you give out when you're teaching Jiu-Jitsu.
What you're doing with 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu, with the website, with mastering the system so you can watch different techniques and learn from them online, what you're doing is you're spreading this incredible tool to become a better human being.
You're spreading this incredible tool to help you master your own personal space a little bit better.
You were saying that it's terrible and it's awful in the beginning.
You don't mean that.
Let me clarify that.
He doesn't mean it's terrible like you have just a terrible time.
No, no, it's fine.
He means terrible like if you started playing a new video game for the first time and you're going one-on-one against people, they would be killing you and it's terrible.
You're losing all the time, but no one's really getting hurt.
You're not going to get hurt in jujitsu.
It's not terrible or you're getting hurt.
You might get hurt like...
At the same rate as you would play in basketball three times a week.
When I say terrible, what I really mean is like you're not going to win.
That's all it is.
It's really fun to learn, though.
And before you even spar, you're going to go through drills where you're shown the technique and you execute it on someone who is not resisting.
And by learning it that way, you know, you do and put in the repetitions, you eventually absolutely can develop those techniques.
The beautiful thing about the techniques of jiu-jitsu is most of them don't even require any real unusual physical attributes.
You don't have to be unusually strong.
You just have to have leverage and position and a lot of people could apply.
A lot of people out there don't even work out.
If you taught them a rear naked choke and then you let them put it on you, they could put you to sleep.
People don't even work out.
They don't even train.
The techniques are really that effective.
So you'll get better.
It's 100% you'll get better.
You just have to put in the numbers.
And that's one of the things that I really always appreciated about the way you talk about jiu-jitsu is that you are always really humble in that regard.
And you always make sure that you let people know that there's nothing unusual about you.
You're not a great athlete.
This is all just thinking and putting in the numbers and doing the proper technique.
It doesn't matter if you're 50 or 60, 42. If you want to learn how to subdue someone and put them to sleep scientifically in a very non-violent way, you're doing it with a bunch of nerds.
Jiu-jitsu itself is a douchebag filter.
We've talked about that before.
Douchebags can't handle getting tapped, can't handle losing a game of death.
Even though no one gets hurt, their ego gets hurt.
But every time I'm on the podcast, we talk about this.
I know I'm beating everyone over the head with this, but there's jujitsu everywhere.
Practically every city has a jujitsu school.
Find a jujitsu school, whether it's no gi or gi.
Get into it, because within a year, and time flies, within a year, sometimes even six months, depending on how fast you pick it up, but at the most, a year, you will be able to take an untrained man, a dude who doesn't do jujitsu, obviously, and most people don't, If anything goes wrong at the movie theater with your family, with your kids, with your girlfriend, someone steps up, you will have the confidence to put that guy to sleep and just extinguish the problem.
And it gives you so much confidence in not just those type situations, but in everyday situations, in business, in meetings.
It just gives you so much confidence knowing if anything goes down, you're safe.
Dude, I wonder if they're ever going to be able to come out with a jujitsu dummy that is a robot that works on a computer and knows how to execute moves.
Because maybe if they could get it to be like super sensitive, you know, maybe, man, I don't know, man.
The way they're doing it now, the robots they have now, they can push them while they're running and they lean over and then rebalance themselves and come back up.
They're getting super, super advanced.
And I think it's the human body, like the anatomy, they already understand it completely.
They know exactly where the bones go.
They know if they created some sort of an artificial structure that mimicked bone mass and they figured out a way to power it and move it around.
And then figure out a way to make it ultra-sensitive to compression and how much it's squeezing and what position it's in.
And then make it work like a jiu-jitsu fucking fire.
Well, you could get a white belt one and just fucking strangle it.
Or you can get, like, different kind of athletes, like a 190-pound football player, like one of those ridiculously powerful and explosive defensive end dudes.
They have advertisers, and while they've been nice enough to take the advertising off our shows and stuff like that, They do have to kind of have this kind of policy, you know.
There was a naughty show that I just put up today where there was a quick nudity where the girl took off her clothes and I grabbed the camera right at the last second and I think there was a little bit of nudity in that show.
But still, I pulled the video immediately when that happened so no one else could see it.
But I still think there's a lot of people that watch this that marijuana would bug Kodak or Ford if they were a sponsor.
They're not going to be like, why are you Why are we sponsoring, like, fucking bong hits and stuff?
It's just they're a little bit more lenient because you're paying for it and there's no advertising involved.
Vimeo is more of a paid service where you can have a director and you can have a short movie that has nudity in it and most likely you're going to be fine because it's kind of artsy.
There's a picture of a dude all fucked up, and he's all bleeding, and on top it says, at first I thought it was a great idea to throw trash into the dolphin pool, but I didn't know Matt Horowitz was standing right behind me.
Internet, like, random internet comedy that comes out of some of those things.
Some are so fun, man.
They're so fun.
Some really hilarious things have been created.
The Suculose ones, I'm not saying it's aliens, but it was aliens.
There's, like, so many of them.
With him and his fucking hair all crazy and the meme is an alien meme.
Some of those are so funny, dude.
There's some funny fucking people out there that are trapped in regular jobs.
Yep.
I'm hoping that's what America, that's what's going to be our next industry.
Funny shit we produce on the internet where eventually people figure out how to make a living just completely straight from the internet, creating either podcasts or web series or different things they do.
Just put it on for a couple minutes because it's them singing this song in a van.
And this chick has a fucking incredible voice.
Just Nikki B-L-U-H-M or something like that.
You're no good.
Y-O-U apostrophe.
What did someone say?
He said some dude was Oh, some dude was shitting on it, like, you know, I was saying, you know, how much talent this chick has, and some dude was like, you know, no, that sucks, it's shit, this is better.
I fucking get crazy when people tell me that what you like sucks.
Like, why?
You don't like it, but you can't say it sucks.
That chick can fucking sing, man.
It might not be your style of music.
It might not be something that you would get into.
It might not be in the right frequency to tune into it.
Feeling better now that we're through Feeling better cause I'm over you I learned my lesson, it left a scar Now I see how you really are You're no good, you're no good Damn, that bitch can sing!
I like that they're on their way to a gig and they're just playing in a van, you know, and she's just sitting there with an iPhone and recording it, and it's beautiful, man.
There's no special effects.
There's no nothing, and it's one of my favorite videos, man.
That's a, I don't know what it is, man, but a chick with a badass voice.
It, like, makes my body feel better.
It, like, it soothes me.
It puts me into a frame of mind that is almost unavailable to me without, like, beautiful girl voices.
If you want to do rounds on a bag or something, listen to some offspring, it's amazing that really good music can make cardio actually go by.
If you put on a fucking badass album, especially if you smoke a little weed, and a lot of people think that's counterproductive to cardio work, but I say, how dare you?
Yeah, because a lot of people thought that Nick Diaz should have got the nod in that fight against Carlos Condit, so that would make him, in their opinion, and that's not just a few.
I've said I thought he could have won, but I could see how you could score for Carlos too.
I would have leaned towards Nick, but it was a very fucking close fight.
Just say it was a draw.
Let's pretend it was a draw.
Or even just a close loss.
You're talking about one of the very best guys in MMA going up against the very best guy or one of the very best guys in jiu-jitsu.
Anybody that just develops, if you spend 10 years working on one specific thing, look how good Marcelo Garcia's rear naked choke is.
Why?
Because he just hit that over and over and over again and put those numbers.
If you look at the way...
Jimi Hendrix used to play guitar.
Why could he play guitar so good?
Because he just hit those numbers over and over and over and over and it became a part of his body.
The thing you can learn about someone throwing a crazy spinning back kick is what's possible when someone just dedicates insane hours to one technique over and over and over again.
So my hands were fucking terrible, dude.
Until I was like 20 years old, I had no boxing technique at all.
I didn't develop my hands.
I'd learn how to throw straight punches, and I'd learn how to throw hooks, but when I would box with people, I would get killed.
My hands were always down low, my chin was up too high, I'd get punched in the face.
I used to box with my friend Mike Blythe.
He was a former professional boxer, and he used to beat me up.
He would make me not be able to kick him and just put the gloves on me.
He'd just kick my ass.
I didn't really know how to use my hands.
Because all that time was just spent developing kicks, developing kicks.
But when you're trying to be like a martial arts superstar like George St. Pierre, a mixed martial arts guy, mixed martial arts requires so many different skills.
You've got to work on your wrestling.
You've got to work on this.
You've got to work on that.
To develop one technique that takes an incredible amount of time to get really proficient at, like those spinning crazy kicks, those take a long time before you really develop that full body coordination.
Like that, the moves in the 360 degree roundhouse kick when you step and run at somebody, those are just like tying a shoelace.
It just sinks into place where it just becomes a part of your life.
I don't think, okay, now I'm going to step with the left and then I'm going to pivot on the ball on my foot and then put the heel down and then lift the knee up and then kick.
I don't even think that.
I just go...
You just go into it.
Like you do when you hit that twister roll.
How many times do you hit that twister roll?
When you're in side control and you hook that left foot under your knee, just go for a ride.
It's just a part of your body.
It's a part of the way your body interacts with this universe.
It's ingrained in you.
It's a path that's grooved and worn so smooth it just automatically goes.
Especially with jiu-jitsu, it's happening too quick for you to even think.
But all of a sudden, you've got someone's back.
There's just been this mad scramble of adjusting positions, and everything you've done has been completely on training, and everything you've done has been on repetition, and drilling, and just putting in the numbers.
And so then while you're live, while you're actually rolling, the mad scramble happens, and your hooks go in, and whoosh!
And you got a person's back and you don't even know what you did.
The ability to come up with something that wasn't there.
What a weird thing that is, that's so satisfying, you know?
And I know you feel it, Brian.
I mean, that's how Brian and I met, because Brian would just make everybody laugh at these silly fucking videos he would put online.
But you know that when you're putting something like that out there, and somebody reacts to it, and somebody likes it, and boom, it just lights you up.
Getting good at something, creating something good that gets recognized as something good, and creating something good where while you're doing it, it's sort of just playing out.
Wow, that would be amazing to see, because Rashad looked amazing against Phil Davis, especially in the scrambles.
Wound up on top virtually every time, and his stand-up was just Phil Davis couldn't handle the stand-up.
Rashad was good.
He looked really solid, and before that, finished off Tito.
I think Rashad's pretty underrated.
I think one of the things that you've got to take into consideration is the fact they trained a lot together, so they're both going to know each other's little idiosyncrasies.
And I'm sure each of them have taken that into consideration and adjusted, but it's going to be fascinating to see what each one knows about each one.
I know there was some moments that they had talked about where Rashad had had success in training, when John was tired and he was holding him down.
They made reference to this many times.
So, it's going to be interesting to see how much Jon has progressed since then.
Because if you look at the way he fights, fucking guys, like, every time you see him, he's like this newer, better version.
I mean, the way he strangled Lyoto Machida and then just dropped him down there.
I mean, that's their common opponent, right?
And, you know, Machida, of course, was the first guy to, not the only common opponent, they fought Rampage as well, but Machida was the first guy and the only guy in the UFC to beat Rashad.
But Rashad won the Ultimate Fighter as a fucking heavyweight, and then dropped down to light heavyweight, and he's still one of the smaller light heavyweights, you know?
I think he's a dangerous guy for anybody at 205. And I think knowing as much as he knows about Jon Jones, this is going to be really fascinating.
Really interesting to see.
Because Jon is so...
He looks like a Muhammad Ali right now.
You know what I mean?
He looks like a Mike Tyson.
He looks like a Sugar Ray Leonard when he was in his prime.
He looks like one of these dudes.
Like, man, this dude is just going to start dominating the world.
He's already dominating the world.
He's already destroying Shogun and winning the title and taking out Rampage and taking out Machida and putting him to sleep.
I mean, he's just on another level, man.
He's on another level and it looks like he's, what is he, 24 or something like that?
What if you were in a coma the last fucking five years and you woke up and people were trying to fill you in on this Jon Jones guy and they were just telling you exactly what you just said.
All the guys that he totally went right through and destroyed.
Yeah, well, he's certainly got still nasty skills on his feet.
His submissions have always been great.
It just doesn't seem like he fights with the same sort of passion that he used to have for it.
I think it's inevitable.
Guys, they have a certain amount of time in this game, and after a while, you hear him talk about it, and he says, you know, it's God's will, and it's this, and that.
He's really more into religion these days than he is, I think, into going out and fucking people up.
I've always been a Fedor fan.
I thought the days when he was dominating in pride, he was one of the most exciting guys in the world to watch.
He was amazing, man.
But all fighters, they go through a cycle, the greatest of all time.
They all go through a cycle where they're almost unbeatable, and after a while there's some deterioration or the talent pool increases, which is one of the things that I certainly think happened in the UFC. I think the talent pool has gotten bigger and bigger.
Fabricio Verdum, the first loss, you just cannot fuck around with Fabricio Verdum's guard.
You can't.
You can't play cute with that dude.
He just locks your shit up.
When I talk to Ryan Parsons about Fabricio, when he talks about how King Mo and Mayhem and all these guys were training with Fabricio, he said none of the ground and pound works.
None of it.
Fabricio just moves you around.
Just puts butterfly hooks in on you and moves you around.
They can't hit him.
They can't beat him up on the ground.
He's just too fucking dangerous.
That heavyweight, long build with a sick guard like he has.
If anybody gets on top of that guy when they're on...
Good luck.
You're in a fucking terrible situation.
That guy on his back and you're on top of him and you're fucked.
They say they have some reason for why he tested over a certain number and they also say that the number he tested May not have been accurate as this is the rumors.
This is everything by the way is completely hearsay that I'm saying I don't have any direct from Overeem information Some people believe that he is going to be able to be licensed to fight and that they'll I don't know.
We're going to find out on April 24th.
On April 24th, that's when he has his hearing.
I don't know if the commission makes a decision on the same day.
I think they do, but I'm not sure.
But then we'll probably find out what the fuck they decide to do and what the situation is exactly.
If it was something he took, if it was something that's not true, if it was a mistake, it was a tainted sample.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
But, you know...
I mean, if you're going to look at a guy that you would think that might be using something that makes you look awesome...
How about the most awesome-looking body in the history of the world?
I mean, who's got a better-looking body than Overeem?
The guy came online that fought him and defended himself and made a lot of sense to me.
Sometimes people just get caught and it looks like a dive, but it's just you're tired and you get clipped in the jaw and your shit just gives out on you.
It is possible.
But there's also a lot of dives out there in this world.
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, we've talked your ear off.
We appreciate the fuck out of you.
I appreciate everybody that came down to Fort Lauderdale Improv.
It was humbling.
It was awesome.
The enthusiasm, it's been just fucking incredible.
And I couldn't be more appreciative of all this shit.
I don't want anybody to think that this is anything that I'm ever taking for granted because we've been having a great fucking time.
Fort Lauderdale's been awesome, and this week I'm going to film my next comedy special at The Tabernacle.
On 420. Yeah, it's so corny, I had to do it.
It's going to be in Georgia, Atlanta, Georgia, at the Tabernacle Theater.
I believe the first show, I don't think there's any tickets left, but the second show, there's some tickets left.
There's an 8 o'clock and a 10.30.
I'm going to use them both.
So don't think that if you come to the 8 o'clock, you're not going to get on.
I'm going to use them both.
And most likely, it'll be a lot of different shit, and I'm going to do a question and answer thing at the end, just like I did on my first CD. So we're going to have a good fucking time.
And then the next night, it's...
Rashad Evans and Jon Jones, you dirty bitches.
Tomorrow, Tommy Segura joins us on the podcast.
Yay, Tommy!
And that's it, you fucking freaks.
We love you.
We're happy as fuck that you are enjoying this podcast.
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