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April 18, 2012 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:48:45
Joe Rogan Experience #207 - Tom Segura, Christina Pazsitzky
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brian redban
08:52
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christina pazsitzky
21:31
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joe rogan
01:37:45
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tom segura
31:29
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joe rogan
My theory is always, it's probably not scientifically based whatsoever, but my theory has always been that the things that are really hard to catch, those are the ones that are better for you.
christina pazsitzky
And tastier?
joe rogan
Tastier, better for you, you know?
It's like fish.
Fish are fucking really hard to catch.
They're really good for you, you know?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Deer, really hard to catch, really good for you.
Big, fat, like, those Japanese fucking, what are those, what do they call those?
Kobe beef cows?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those fucking cows, they're not running from anybody.
You know what I'm saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's why it's terrible for you.
unidentified
Terrible.
joe rogan
But delicious.
christina pazsitzky
Tasty.
joe rogan
We're such assholes.
We've tricked animals to get so obese that they're on the verge of death because they're just packing fat everywhere in all their muscle tissue.
christina pazsitzky
So delicious.
What about foie gras?
We're going to stop having that in California.
joe rogan
We're done, dude.
June.
They're so stupid.
christina pazsitzky
So lame, man.
joe rogan
Birds are cunts, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
100% of all birds that have ever lived are cunts.
christina pazsitzky
They're cunts.
joe rogan
They don't give a fuck about you.
tom segura
They really don't.
joe rogan
No birds care about you.
They don't even care about shit.
They look cute when they have little babies and they're swimming together.
But the reality is, you're going to eat them anyway.
Why is it okay to eat them?
It's not okay to overfeed them.
It's a really quick process.
I've watched them do it.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
It literally only takes a couple seconds.
tom segura
Yeah, with the tube?
joe rogan
Yeah, they take the goose, they put the tube into its mouth, they hold it there, and then they pour the grain down its stomach.
It's not in pain.
It only takes a couple seconds.
And then after that's over, the thing's just running around.
I mean, it's like, how is that...
Bad.
But the way they farm pigs, that's okay?
unidentified
Yeah.
Or chickens.
tom segura
That's legal.
You know why, though?
joe rogan
It's incredible.
tom segura
It's a winnable topic for animal people because the people that are in...
Because foie gras is like a kind of...
It's a delicacy.
So it's not considered something that...
It's not like they're saying, we're going to try to take steaks out of the market.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
It's something that is for...
christina pazsitzky
It's elitist.
tom segura
It's an elitist...
Food choice.
Most people don't eat any.
I mean, the great majority of people don't even know what foe gras is.
So they go, this is a totally inhumane way to make this.
They put it on a ballot, and they get enough momentum behind it where they can win it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen the argument, and I'm certainly not one for animal cruelty, but...
It's not, you know, it might be bad if it was a person that you were doing that to.
Yeah, absolutely.
But you would never allow any of this shit they do to chickens for a human.
No humans are allowed to live like that.
Stacked on top of each other in their own shit.
You know what I mean?
The way they're doing chickens and pigs with these fucking cages where they can't even move and veal.
Whoa, that's all okay?
That's all okay.
But this cunty duck.
christina pazsitzky
Right.
joe rogan
Fuck that cunty duck.
Stuff that fucking grain right there on its stupid mouth.
Give me your delicious liver.
unidentified
I'm getting a gun just to shoot these birds outside of our window.
christina pazsitzky
There's beautiful birds that they're building a nest on our house and they chirp every morning and I wake up to this wonderful bird song and it enrages my husband.
joe rogan
Oh, doesn't it?
christina pazsitzky
And he's like, let's get the gun!
unidentified
It drives you crazy.
joe rogan
Oh, I think it's beautiful.
I love hearing birds chirp.
But I have crows.
Those are cunts.
unidentified
Those are evil fuckers.
joe rogan
You just hear them.
tom segura
I don't hate bird chirping.
I don't like it at the hour sometimes.
joe rogan
One time I left a steak.
I had a steak and I forgot to defrost it.
And I figured, well, probably the best way to defrost it is to sit it outside in the sun.
I'm like, that's a good idea.
So I put it on my hand.
With the wrapping on, this fucking cunty crow was coming down there and pecking at my steak.
tom segura
No shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, he ate like a little chunk of it before I figured out what he was doing.
christina pazsitzky
That piece of shit.
joe rogan
I mean, I had only turned my back for like a minute.
That asshole was watching.
They watch what you're doing.
They look to see if there's anything that you're doing that could benefit them.
unidentified
You're right.
tom segura
The birds don't really like you, man.
joe rogan
They're cunts.
tom segura
You ever had a pet bird?
joe rogan
Yes, I've had pet birds.
christina pazsitzky
Shittiest pet of all time.
joe rogan
It's a one-way relationship.
tom segura
It's moody.
It's in a mood to fucking...
christina pazsitzky
And they shit on you constantly.
If you let them on your shoulder, they take a shit on you.
They fly around the house and they shit everywhere.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck that.
unidentified
It's the worst.
joe rogan
They're dinosaurs.
They really are the last of the dinosaurs.
brian redban
Bunnies are bad pets too, I always thought, because they just shit all the time.
But then lately, yeah, with Eddie and a couple other people, I'm like, wow, these seem like baby good pets.
christina pazsitzky
Are they smart rabbits?
joe rogan
They're really affectionate.
They just want to cuddle with you and you pet them and they just snuggle up with you.
brian redban
That's cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's cool.
They're sweet.
They're sweet little, but they're also delicious.
And when push comes to shove, the apocalypse is coming, they gots to go.
tom segura
I've had rabbit before.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I like that too.
I like rabbit.
unidentified
You do?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I had it in a Moroccan restaurant in the valley once.
That's good.
You can season anything you eat in.
tom segura
It's too gamey.
joe rogan
I thought it was pretty delicious.
tom segura
When we lived in the Rampart Division, one of our neighbors had a rooster.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, our next door neighbor.
tom segura
She called an animal protector.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my god.
The fucking thing was crowing.
unidentified
Oh my god.
christina pazsitzky
Up four in the morning, you hear it.
tom segura
Every single day.
joe rogan
Who the fuck would allow you to have a rooster?
That's an asshole pet to have.
christina pazsitzky
That is a real asshole pet.
unidentified
That's an asshole pet.
tom segura
It was on a chain and stuff, man.
christina pazsitzky
Jesus Christ.
It would run through the streets and everything.
Remember that?
tom segura
Fucking...
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
What a great neighborhood.
What was this lady?
tom segura
This was an El Salvadorian neighborhood.
joe rogan
So she's from El Salvadorian?
tom segura
I think it was a family.
unidentified
How crazy was that?
tom segura
Because we could see it off our balcony down.
joe rogan
Was it an apartment building or a house?
tom segura
It was an apartment.
christina pazsitzky
Apartments.
tom segura
Yeah, apartments.
joe rogan
So they thought they could have a goddamn rooster in an apartment.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, for sure, yeah.
joe rogan
How nutty is that?
tom segura
And there was a lot of neighbors who had to be losing their fucking minds like we were.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
tom segura
We were the ones that were like, oh, you can call somebody for this shit, man.
unidentified
This How the fuck does this crazy bitch think she's going to get away with having a rooster in her backyard?
tom segura
Because the neighborhood is 100% El Salvadorian.
joe rogan
And they're just cool with that?
tom segura
I think so.
joe rogan
That's crazy!
tom segura
Because they're like, this is just like the village back home.
unidentified
That's right.
tom segura
Like, it's no different.
christina pazsitzky
And no snitching.
You're not supposed to snitch on your neighbors, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Wow.
tom segura
Yeah, well...
joe rogan
So they just want...
Fuck them.
They want to get out of El Salvador, but they want to be like El Salvador.
unidentified
For sure.
tom segura
The whole neighborhood is completely like that.
unidentified
That's crazy.
christina pazsitzky
Turn it into the old country.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess it's just...
tom segura
Yeah, they had a lot of gunshots, too.
This is a better version.
unidentified
Oh, really?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah, nightly.
tom segura
Yeah.
unidentified
Really?
christina pazsitzky
That was a great neighborhood, yeah.
joe rogan
You used to hear gunshots nightly.
unidentified
Was I talking to you?
tom segura
Daily, sometimes.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
christina pazsitzky
Remember you were in the living room doing you-know-what?
tom segura
Yeah, I was jerking off in the living room one time.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
I wasn't there.
joe rogan
A bullet came through the window?
tom segura
No, but it was like 2 in the afternoon and I'm like, just sitting on the couch, dick in my hand, laptop open, and I hear a fucking gunshot, but it sounds like somebody's on the balcony.
It's not like a distant, it's 2 in the afternoon, sun's out and you hear, bang!
And you're like, whoa, jump.
I threw the laptop and jump on the floor.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
tom segura
Like, just dick out.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
And I call Jose, the guy, the building manager, and I go, dude, did you hear that?
And he goes, hear what?
And I'm like, the gunshot?
Did you hear that?
He goes, no, I'm in the garage.
I didn't hear nothing.
And I go, all right, man.
I thought I heard a gunshot really loudly.
And he was like, I didn't hear anything.
I hang up the phone, and like two minutes later, the phone rings.
He's like, hey, Tom, it's Jose.
Yeah, some guy just got killed out on 6th Street.
And I'm like, oh, so that's what that was.
It was all blocked off.
Some guy had gone up to a guy on 6th Street, like 2 in the afternoon, shot him with a.357 right in the chest, one shot, and then put his hands up, got arrested.
joe rogan
Whoa.
tom segura
Yeah, and that was the middle of the day.
joe rogan
Yeah, some people don't like each other.
There's a lot of people that don't get along.
christina pazsitzky
It's a hateful world.
joe rogan
What a terrible way to be able to end it, too.
You can't just get away from that person.
You've got to put holes in them.
tom segura
And to die on shitty 6th Street.
christina pazsitzky
Ah, it's the worst.
tom segura
In this shit neighborhood.
christina pazsitzky
You know what's shit about that neighborhood?
Is that we had the ice cream truck that would come in, like, part right in front of the house in the same loop.
tom segura
Yeah, but it wasn't even the traditional.
It had, like, a little El Salvadorian flavor to it.
Yeah.
There was some extra horns and whistles in it, yeah.
It was.
christina pazsitzky
And remember the swap meet on like Alvarado?
unidentified
Did you guys feel really uncomfortable living in this neighborhood?
christina pazsitzky
It was the worst decision.
It was my fault because I was living in Silver Lake and I went on vacation.
I came back and my house had been infested with rats.
There was rat shit everywhere.
I had a grapefruit I had left out.
It was half eaten.
And I was like, I got to get the fuck out of here, man.
So this is the first place I could find, like the quickest place I could find.
And it was relatively safe, but it was a two-year disaster.
joe rogan
Wow, two years?
unidentified
Why two?
tom segura
Lazy, broke sometimes.
unidentified
Broke, mostly, yeah.
tom segura
It was cheap.
I don't know, I got used to it, and then we were like, we gotta get the fuck out of here.
Wow.
And the other thing was, every night, we also were a block, I don't know if you remember, at this point it would be almost two years ago, on 6th Street, just a couple blocks from WeWares, where this El Salvadorian guy was crossing the street drunk.
unidentified
Wow.
tom segura
And he pulled out a knife, and he was wheeling around, and the cops shot him like 13 or 14 times, right?
joe rogan
Whoa.
tom segura
So they killed him, and then the whole neighborhood rioted, and they walked up to the Rampart Division police station.
There was riots on the streets.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, helicopters everywhere.
tom segura
We got on the roof of our building, and there was like...
Because it was nightly that we would see helicopters.
We would get the light would shine through our window every night.
But this night, we counted like 11, and they were just in a swarm above us, like a swarm of bees, just during the riot thing.
unidentified
That was like a couple weeks we were like, alright, we're definitely going to move now.
tom segura
We're done with this shit, man.
joe rogan
Wow.
tom segura
Yeah, this is too crazy.
So we left that neighborhood.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
tom segura
But there was a lot of gang fights.
18th Street Gang.
christina pazsitzky
We were right in between them.
tom segura
MS-13, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And they would tag on our wall, like our building wall.
joe rogan
I have a buddy who lives in Venice on the corner where his daughter plays in the little playground area.
Three kids get shot.
tom segura
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Like, you know, one day you're there and someone pulls out a gun.
That can happen.
People die in a crossfire.
Shit happens.
What a crazy ass neighborhood to live in.
Venice apparently has a lot of that.
unidentified
I got robbed by a wizard.
tom segura
You know what happened when I lived in the valley one time?
My neighbor got murdered.
Oh, yeah.
And he got murdered in the front yard at night.
Shotgun shot seven times.
Oh, my God.
Which means they, like, reloaded.
unidentified
Seven.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
tom segura
And I was the only one that didn't hear it.
Like, everybody...
joe rogan
How loud do you snore, dude?
unidentified
I know, dude.
Because I was in a deep sleep.
tom segura
And I remember my buddy Chuck came over me and he puts his hand on my chest.
He's like, Tommy!
And I was like, holy shit, man.
And he goes, you hear that shit?
And I'm like, clearly not.
No, I was just fucking asleep when you yelled at me.
And he was like, there was a lot of shots right there.
And this wasn't a bad neighborhood, really.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
So it was just someone really hated someone.
tom segura
Well, it turns out, it kind of came out that he was dealing, I guess he was dealing some pretty major weight, so this was like a retaliation.
It was something drug-related.
But they never got the guys that got him.
unidentified
Wow.
tom segura
They blasted him on his front fucking yard.
joe rogan
And they never got the guys that got him.
tom segura
Holy shit.
joe rogan
I wonder how much they actually catch as far as murders go.
tom segura
You know what I think about a lot?
When you walk around, when you hear the percentage of unsolved homicides, how many times a day you cross paths with a murderer?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I'm convinced everybody is crazy.
unidentified
A lot.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
I don't trust anybody.
joe rogan
They say that the one way that's the most difficult to catch someone is if they just do something random, like walk in somewhere, shoot someone and kill them, and then leave.
Those are really...
I mean, that's why everyone's pushing for surveillance and surveillance drones.
tom segura
That's the best way to catch people?
joe rogan
The best way to get away with it.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, just random killings.
Not premeditated at all.
joe rogan
Not like someone who you obviously have already been pissed off at.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
They say when the random ones happen, there's not much they can do.
tom segura
There's still a high percentage of unsolved murders, man.
There's so many cases where they're just like, I just didn't get it.
That guy got away with it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
You don't have the evidence.
Or sometimes, a lot of times now, it's these understaffed, at least in the U.S., understaffed police departments.
They have too many murders for how many cops they can put on to solve crimes, you know?
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
If your murder rate keeps going up, you go to like, have you seen the murder rate in like Venezuela?
joe rogan
No.
christina pazsitzky
No, no thanks.
tom segura
Holy shit, dude.
Like Caracas, Venezuela has, like, I think our, our murder capital always fluctuates between like, New Orleans, Baltimore, Detroit, you know, sometimes it used to be like LA, New York, Miami gets in there.
And you're talking about in the 200 to 400 kind of fluctuation of murders.
And you take a city like Caracas, Venezuela has over a thousand.
joe rogan
Wow.
tom segura
So you're talking about over four times the murders that happen in New Orleans?
And then you think about how many people you need...
It's a numbers game.
...to solve, though, that many murders?
You just show up and you're just like, this is...
That's insane.
We got 27 on the other side of town.
I don't know if we're going to get to this one.
christina pazsitzky
They don't give a shit about you in Venezuela, either.
tom segura
There's no...
unidentified
Yeah, probably not.
tom segura
A lot of Mexican cities have ridiculously high...
Like, Monterey has really high fucking murder rate, man.
Like...
Unsolvable.
It's not solvable.
Wow.
joe rogan
It's just a part of life.
Murder's just a part of life.
tom segura
Yeah, you're not going to get to it all.
Wow.
Too many other things.
unidentified
That sucks.
joe rogan
It's crazy that that's going on in 2012, you know, because we have this sort of distorted perception of safety.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, it's illusory.
I don't trust when people are like, like strangers.
Like, this week I was in Cleveland, and the manager of the club was like, oh, let me take you to the market in Cleveland.
I was like, I don't know, man.
I don't know you.
I texted, I texted Bert.
Yeah, I text him and I'm like, is this guy on the level?
I don't trust anybody.
joe rogan
You're right.
You're right to not.
You never know.
tom segura
You asked me, is he going to kill me?
Is he going to kidnap me?
I don't think so.
christina pazsitzky
I grew up in LA, man.
I'm street savvy.
I don't leave windows open at night.
tom segura
Yeah, she's a real freak about that.
unidentified
I don't trust anybody.
tom segura
Big city people have that fear more.
joe rogan
You should be.
Yeah, if you grew up in L.A. Yeah.
Remember the Night Stalker?
christina pazsitzky
She was here for the Night Stalker.
Richard Ramirez?
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
As a child, you couldn't sleep with your window open because that guy was going to come in and steal you and stab you.
What would your dad say?
tom segura
Fuck that.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, my dad doesn't give a fuck.
My dad's Hungarian.
He's like, I don't give a fuck.
Fuck Richard Ramirez.
I kill that cocksucker if he comes in.
I was like, alright man.
But he liked to listen to the police scanner too, my dad.
And like, figure out what crime was going on.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, Richard Ramirez was a scary guy.
You know, a lot of women try to marry that dude.
unidentified
He's married.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
tom segura
He's married now.
joe rogan
He's married?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Good for him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I hope that shit works out.
tom segura
Yeah, that's a terrifying dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did some horrible things to people.
tom segura
He was caught by citizens.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, street justice.
joe rogan
How did he catch him?
tom segura
He was leaving the scene.
He had tried to murder somebody, or maybe he did murder one of the people, and he was getting to his car.
christina pazsitzky
Was it Simi Valley, I want to say?
tom segura
Yeah, and people tackled him.
He was tackled by everyday people.
unidentified
Whoa.
christina pazsitzky
Because his picture was all over the news at that point.
Like this was like the height of the fever.
joe rogan
Imagine how horrifying that would feel to see that guy in your neighborhood after his picture had been all over the news and there he is right there.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Coming from the scene of a murder.
tom segura
I think it was three people that wowed him down.
And held him down.
joe rogan
Why didn't they beat him to death?
tom segura
That's a good question.
christina pazsitzky
That's a really good question.
tom segura
I haven't read this story in a while.
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure I would have beat him to death.
I don't even think I would have thought twice about it.
Probably.
tom segura
He's got a gun in his hand, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would have beat that guy to death.
For sure.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, and I don't think you get in trouble for it, right?
joe rogan
I don't care.
christina pazsitzky
It's a real piece of shit like that.
joe rogan
I would say I lost my mind.
I went temporary insanity.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
Crime of passion?
joe rogan
Yeah, and I would.
I would go temporary and say, could you imagine if, maybe if, like, perhaps he killed somebody you know?
Or you were worried he was going to kill somebody you know?
Like, you were thinking about him killing your mom or something like that?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know how fucking crazy you can get?
brian redban
Have you ever thought somebody was going to kill you at any point in your life?
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
You?
Yes?
tom segura
Really?
christina pazsitzky
There was, like, a time when I was, like, a stupid teenager and I was high and I'd take a ride with someone and you're like, I'm going to fucking die!
You know?
joe rogan
Well, no.
christina pazsitzky
Or somebody that was driving me was on acid when I was like a teenager.
joe rogan
If you look at serial killers, that's the creepiest thing ever.
The creepiest thing ever is people that just decide they get a kick out of killing people.
So they go look to try to find people to kill.
tom segura
Get a rush out of it.
joe rogan
You could just be in the wrong place at the wrong time and run into one of those motherfuckers.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
tom segura
And there's no rationale to why they want to kill certain people or just have a thing for certain people.
christina pazsitzky
Well, Ted Bundy didn't like brunettes because some brunette broke his heart.
So all the girls he got were brunettes, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I have met a lot of dudes that I don't think were serial killers.
But I think developed a hate for women.
Like a real hate over years and years of rejection.
Their egos can't handle it.
And they decide that there's something wrong with that person because they're constantly associating that person with negative feelings.
You know what I mean?
Like they always associate women with being rejected.
With being humiliated, with being mocked and laughed at.
So they associate them with pain.
And their meager brains just aren't able to realize that that's just a person.
That person doesn't owe you shit.
And you're really not that attractive.
And why would she want to fuck you, you asshole?
Just think about what you're offering her.
I don't know how you could fix that, but that's what you need to concentrate on.
Instead of concentrating on what people like.
Getting angry at people for not liking you.
That gets to be a weird thing.
tom segura
It morphs into a bigger thing, too, because they get to sit on it and think about it.
So it becomes a bigger picture thing for them.
They're like, all women.
christina pazsitzky
I've felt that before.
I've walked into radio stations, and the assumption is, maybe they've seen photographs of me, and they're like, oh, she's going to be a cunty blonde.
And sometimes I sense it, like the assumption is that I'll be a dick to them.
And I'm like, no way.
I'm not saying that I'm the hottest, but I think the assumption is if you're a somewhat attractive girl, you're going to be a douchebag.
I know Ari didn't like girls.
unidentified
Really?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I did his podcast.
joe rogan
What do you mean Ari doesn't like girls?
christina pazsitzky
Ari Shafir.
He and I did a podcast.
He came over and I just sensed that he has that thing with some girls where he thinks that we hate him.
brian redban
But we hashed it out.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, we hashed it out.
joe rogan
Ari's not a handsome fella.
christina pazsitzky
But he gets really attractive girls, though.
unidentified
Of course he does.
joe rogan
He's a badass comedian, but his look is odd.
You're going to have to deal with a certain amount of rejection.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
I think he's beautiful.
christina pazsitzky
But I mean, he's cool.
joe rogan
So what do you mean, though, that he doesn't...
Do you really think that that's what it was, that he doesn't like women?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I think that he did have...
joe rogan
So it's from rejection.
christina pazsitzky
Yes, absolutely.
Because he's had his heart smashed, I think, by some good-looking broads.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
And, yeah, I mean, when he came over, I asked him that.
joe rogan
It's based on how many women you're interacting with and where you're at in your life while you're interacting with them.
Sometimes the relationship means more than it should to you because you don't have a whole lot of shit going on outside of it.
You know what I mean?
My feelings on relationships are always, if someone doesn't want to be with me anymore, I don't want them to be with me.
And that's cool in the gang, and good luck with whatever you're onto.
tom segura
But what did Ari say, though?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, um, no, because I brought it up.
I was like, I have this, I feel this unspoken animosity that you have towards me, like over the years, because I'd, and I thought, you know, maybe I'm projecting, maybe that's my bullshit that I'm projecting on him.
And, and I was like, I just sense that you don't like girls, like you hate women.
unidentified
And he's like, you know, maybe a little bit, you're right, because I came up with a comedy store, and I was rolling with those boys.
christina pazsitzky
I mean, so I think he had a little bit of the comedy store.
joe rogan
He was rolling with those boys?
christina pazsitzky
Like us?
No, no, not you.
Oh, Dave Taylor?
Yeah, like those boys.
They're kind of shitty.
And I think the assumption he had is that if you're a cute girl, that you get ahead in comedy faster, which I don't know if it's true.
joe rogan
Maybe they do.
So what?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, so what?
joe rogan
It is what it is.
You recognize it.
And you know what?
Real quality will always shine anyway.
It doesn't matter.
If someone's getting through just because they're cute, their quality of their work is going to be exposed.
christina pazsitzky
Well, yeah, you can't go forever.
joe rogan
It doesn't matter.
christina pazsitzky
It's not going to last.
joe rogan
Yeah, what's good is good.
And if someone gets a little advantage because they're hot, good for them.
They got a lucky break.
unidentified
Look at that.
christina pazsitzky
And since when is show business a meritocracy for one fucking thing?
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
Exactly.
That's all hater bullshit.
That's all that is.
All that stuff is just hater bullshit, worrying about other people getting ahead.
It's so dumb.
It's the dumbest stuff that comedians and entertainers and I'm sure folks in all sorts of walks of life entertain themselves with.
They let their mind go into these unfixable little circles where you look at someone else's success as somehow or another that's bad for you.
christina pazsitzky
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, like it hurt you.
It makes you feel inadequate or whatever.
You should look at that, whatever it is, and use all that shit and be inspired.
That's what you should do.
Even if someone you fucking hate is doing well, you should say, whoa, this makes me want to work hard.
This makes me want to push.
This makes me want to get ahead.
Use it.
Use it as inspiration.
But don't ever let yourself get to that, who the fuck this fucking guy's name fucking sucks, what about me?
Can't get to that state of mind, because that's a negative, just a shit, sloshy, no progress, wishy-washy state of mind.
It's a bitch state of mind.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
We've all done it.
I did it a bunch when I first started out.
I was too competitive.
Getting involved in open mic nights.
Everyone was competitive about who did well.
We didn't know what the fuck we were doing.
We're open micers.
We don't know what we're doing.
But I think there's a little something to being competitive with your peers, but it should never be negative.
You've got to keep it from being something where it's a consuming thing.
When I see people, and I've seen it, I've seen it firsthand, like recently, comics that were talking about a comic that was successful, and they were talking shit about them.
And I was listening to them talking shit about them, and I can see the...
It didn't matter what they were saying.
They were basically...
unidentified
You know, it's that state.
joe rogan
It's that state.
It doesn't matter what words are coming out.
That's a shitty state of mind.
You can't say...
If a guy's doing well, that means someone's liking him.
And you might not like certain aspects of his work.
But does it really bug you that much?
Or is what's really bugging you the fact that this guy is doing something?
christina pazsitzky
Or that you're not doing enough with your own life.
And that's usually what it is.
When you're like, why is that person...
Something's wrong with you, man.
Your head's not right.
joe rogan
Judging them on...
I mean, look, there's going to be stuff you like and stuff you don't like.
There's always going to be that.
I went to see that Cabin in the Woods.
brian redban
Loved it.
unidentified
Loved it.
brian redban
I knew you would love it.
joe rogan
Stupid as fuck.
Ridiculous movie.
Had a great time.
brian redban
I love that.
Like what he says about movies.
Sometimes I'm on board, but most of the time I'm really surprised.
joe rogan
Yo, Rotten Tomatoes gave it a 91%.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
unidentified
91?
joe rogan
Yeah, and Eddie's like, it's the worst fucking movie ever.
Oh my god, I enjoyed the shit out of that movie.
unidentified
And then he describes it as like fucking porn coming out of his mouth slowly.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Brian's like, dude, this might be your favorite movie.
Dude, there's even werewolves in this movie.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
People got jacked by werewolves.
tom segura
That's why I left.
That's why I went to the bathroom.
joe rogan
It's a crazy hybrid weird fucking movie.
It's kind of silly.
It's a fun movie, right?
Yes, yes.
But there's almost aspects of it where you could consider it a comedy.
Like I see what Eddie was saying.
It was totally over the top.
But really fucking fun.
Really fun.
Stupid ass fucking horror movie with a massive twist.
The twist I won't get into.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
But I enjoyed the shit out of it.
I enjoyed the shit out of it.
tom segura
That's what it's all about, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
I'm not in the movies to have it mimic real life and have things be completely random and unpredictable.
I guess what?
I have a real life.
christina pazsitzky
Life's hard enough.
unidentified
I'll go to the movies.
joe rogan
I want to see monsters.
I want to see explosions and aliens and UFOs.
tom segura
You know what?
UFOs are fucking bummer movies when you see the trailer.
christina pazsitzky
Fuck a bummer movie.
unidentified
Fuck you.
christina pazsitzky
Plus that one we were like, no.
First of all, I don't want to see that silent movie.
joe rogan
Yeah, that movie can suck it.
unidentified
No thanks.
Fuck that movie.
christina pazsitzky
We invented sound for a reason.
brian redban
Duncan was like, you gotta see it!
christina pazsitzky
It's great art, man!
Aleister Crowley, man!
unidentified
Freak you out!
christina pazsitzky
I don't need any more art.
tom segura
Like AIDS and shit.
Yeah, it's always like...
joe rogan
What is it?
tom segura
She got cancer or whatever.
Cancer and then they shot my son.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck you.
tom segura
Fuck you.
The movie's amazing.
joe rogan
And I'm like, no, it's not amazing.
unidentified
No, it's not.
joe rogan
I'm not even getting bummed out.
I'm not even getting bummed out.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
This is supposed to be entertainment for me.
These motherfuckers take themselves so seriously.
And just because you can depict something depressing and it depresses me, it doesn't mean it's good.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay?
joe rogan
It means you did a really good job of making something fucking depressing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not good.
Imagine if you were like, if comedy had so much leeway, if we could make depressing stand-up.
I guess a lot of stand-up would be kind of depressing.
tom segura
It would be the most depressing shit in the world.
If comics just were like, I'm going to share this stuff.
christina pazsitzky
If we told the truth, you would jump without punchlines.
tom segura
I'm going to share this stuff with no jokes.
joe rogan
Ready?
tom segura
Yeah.
Ooh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
Childhood shit.
That negative shit you're talking about, where comics going like, fuck that.
You know where you see that a lot?
Is when you do the road, and you...
You run into other comics on the road who are, and a lot of times they'll start with, like, I used to live in L.A. And you're like, oh yeah, how's that?
And they're like, fuck that place, man.
And you're like, here it goes.
Alright, open up.
And then they do the whole, like, you know, it's all bullshit.
And I just realized, like, it doesn't even matter if you're any good at it.
And I'm like, nah, I think it does matter if you're good at it.
I think that helps a lot.
And, you know, they give you the whole speech.
They're like, it's all shit, and that's why I left.
I used to do it, but now I like it here in fucking Podunk, Iowa.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tom segura
And you're like, Yeah.
Good, man.
I think you're going to run shit in this town in no time, so just stay here.
joe rogan
The worst is then, as the night goes on, he starts drinking and gets even more bitter.
unidentified
That's the best.
joe rogan
And towards the end, the L.A. guy.
The L.A. guy is here.
We should let him talk.
He's the LA guy.
brian redban
When I moved out here, my uncle goes, I used to live in LA. I hated it.
And I was like, oh.
And when he said goodbye, he was just like, yeah, by the way, I used to live there.
It fucking sucks.
That was for his goodbye message, too.
joe rogan
Wow.
unidentified
Positive energy.
tom segura
I love when people tell me that they hate LA. What a good dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
It's my favorite.
Yeah, you hate LA. You've never even been to LA. I'm like, that's cool, man.
I love it there.
I enjoy myself.
unidentified
It's people that have never even been here that LA has a lot of bullshit attached to it.
Of course.
joe rogan
But it's got a lot of great stuff, too.
tom segura
I love my neighborhood.
joe rogan
There's a lot of great stuff in LA. But the comedy clubs, I mean, where is it that you have a city that has, like, Pasadena Ice House is only 20 minutes away, okay?
You got, right there on Melrose, you got the Improv, one of the greatest clubs in the country.
You got the Laugh Stop, or the Laugh Factory, rather, and the Comedy Store.
All in one city.
tom segura
You got Hermosa.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you got Hermosa, Comedy and Magic Club.
That's another...
brian redban
Pretty fucking dangerous.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
unidentified
LA in general, though.
joe rogan
What?
brian redban
Hermosa?
No, LA in general.
unidentified
Oh, man.
brian redban
I don't know.
Besides the gangs and all that crap, but just the fact that there's a lot of drugs out here.
There's a lot of fucking fast cars.
There's a lot of people making bad decisions out here.
unidentified
Fast cars?
brian redban
It just seems like everything...
christina pazsitzky
He's seven.
He doesn't know that people drive.
unidentified
That's insane.
brian redban
I see it all the time though.
I'll be on sunset at 3 in the morning and suddenly a Ferrari goes down the street going like 200 and you're like, really?
You just blew like three red lights right there.
unidentified
That's crazy.
tom segura
But I love that this is one of your focuses for the shitty part of the city.
All these fast fucking cars, man.
unidentified
They're just driving around.
joe rogan
The real problem with the city is Lamborghinis.
brian redban
I'm just saying in general that it's not normal.
The people out here are in the entertainment business.
They're in a certain kind of field of jobs.
So it's a lot of different thinking than, say, a normal city where you have a little bit of everything.
You have a little bit of people that are bankers, farmers.
It's definitely crazy.
I see shit all the time.
I'm like, if my mom saw that, that would be crazy if my mom just saw that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I agree with you to a certain extent, but it's also the circles you run in.
You're running around going to these crazy parties and hanging out with these weird people.
brian redban
I got robbed at a karaoke bar across the street from NBC. Wow.
joe rogan
In Burbank.
brian redban
In Burbank.
christina pazsitzky
That's odd, but that's an anomaly.
joe rogan
That can happen though, but you know, whenever there's a bar, you run into the possibility that someone might try to rob people coming out of the bar.
Because people are drunk, and when drunk people come out of a bar and you rob them, I'm like, what the fuck are the cops going to do about that?
You know, the cops are going to...
What is your perception going to be like?
What is the story going to be like?
Do you really remember what the guy looked like?
You know what I mean?
If you're hammered, the cops are talking, and you're like, the guy fucking pulled a gun on me, and where's my money?
christina pazsitzky
What?
joe rogan
There's my money, man.
The cop's going to be like, all right, sir.
Okay, you say he was black?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, come on.
Good luck with that.
That's the perfect guy to rob.
So it might not have necessarily been, you know, that Burbank is dangerous.
It might have been somebody targeted that bar.
People do shit like that.
tom segura
You're right, though, that when you're on the road, especially if you spend four or five days, and you go out kind of more the third and fourth day, and you're like, this is a different speed, a smaller city.
Oh, most definitely.
This is way different.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, when I lived in Colorado and I came back to here, I noticed a huge difference in the way people drive.
People drive 50% faster here.
Everywhere.
tom segura
Those fast cars, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They cut a lot of people off, and they don't use blinkers as much, and it's way less courteous.
tom segura
I still feel like South Florida holds the trophy on that one.
joe rogan
Oh, for country driving?
unidentified
An asshole driving?
Holy shit.
tom segura
There's nothing like it.
joe rogan
You can feel it.
tom segura
As you go down 95, you hit Lauderdale, and then once you get to northern Dade County, you're like, holy shit, man.
joe rogan
Dude, I did the Fort Lauderdale Improv this weekend.
Oh my gosh.
tom segura
What a fucking great club.
Yeah, it's a great club.
joe rogan
What a fun time.
I guess I did it last night.
No, night before last.
What's today?
Night before last.
brian redban
Wednesday.
joe rogan
I don't remember what day it is.
Fort Lauderdale was fucking amazing.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was amazing.
tom segura
Great crowds.
It's a good room.
joe rogan
They're wild.
brian redban
The energy is just like, wow.
unidentified
It's good.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're crazy people.
tom segura
I feel like you have to turn it up.
joe rogan
That's how tired I am.
I forgot about yesterday for a half a second.
brian redban
I know.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my God.
joe rogan
It's ridiculous.
tom segura
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
I know, dude.
tom segura
Lauderdale's nuts, man.
joe rogan
It's a wild place, man.
They fucking party hard down there in Fort Lauderdale.
tom segura
I think South Florida's all about, you know, you go down there and you realize that if you go actually into Miami, that you can go to places that close at 5 and that open at 5.30 a.m.
for the after party.
And it's not that rare.
joe rogan
So they clean up for a half hour?
tom segura
Or they just go to another place.
And by the time you get there, that shit's open.
joe rogan
Wow.
tom segura
You can party until noon in Miami.
brian redban
Jeez, to break it down.
joe rogan
Go on and on.
unidentified
To break it down.
tom segura
Yeah, you can fucking party.
christina pazsitzky
You get all kinds of crayons there in Miami.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Well, when I was in Fort Lauderdale, I asked them, what time is the last call?
And they said, it's 5 a.m.
tom segura
5 a.m.
joe rogan
5 a.m.
And I'm like, that's because of cocaine.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
100%, right?
Cocaine changed that law.
That shit doesn't make sense.
Everywhere else is like two.
New York, it's like four.
And they're like, no, five.
unidentified
How about an extra hour to move product?
christina pazsitzky
Isn't that the city that cocaine built, though?
joe rogan
Miami, right?
People are buying coke.
That's the hours they're going to be buying coke.
Those two to five hours.
Let's keep the party rolling, man.
Let's keep the party rolling.
tom segura
It's not a 3 p.m.
purchase.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Get back to the gym.
I should do a bump.
tom segura
And that you think about it all rationally.
I should do a bump.
I should do some coke right now.
christina pazsitzky
God.
joe rogan
So many people that did a lot of coke...
Early on in their life, they have big problems when they get older.
Their neurological system, like Richard Pryor had a big problem, and I don't know if she really did a lot of it.
I should probably not say.
I don't know.
That's a rumor.
I know a bunch of different people besides that that have had real serious issues with their body.
tom segura
I always had a fear of that.
I just had a fear of...
You know, sometimes the scare tactic works.
Like when I saw the...
They would be like, you know, you can do cocaine one time you get a heart attack.
That somehow got into my brain when I was young enough where I was totally scared to try it.
brian redban
It's just too expensive, man.
Every time I did it, I used to be like, fuck, that was like a Nintendo game.
That was a lot of money.
That was half my paycheck.
tom segura
Do you do it?
Never done it, no.
joe rogan
I'm scared of it.
tom segura
Scared.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
You know, I grew up, and a lot of kids did crystal.
That was, like, the crystal meth.
Oh, yeah, we talked about this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And I don't know.
It's so grody.
But, you know, you can always tell when someone was a tweaker.
Like, I've had some ex-tweaker bosses who, like, they can't handle more than one thing at a time.
unidentified
Like, as they get out of it.
What?
joe rogan
Nothing.
Listen, I'm fascinated by the insight, the mind of a tweaker.
So while you're saying this, I'm really getting excited.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, so, okay, I used to work retail, like on Melrose, at some shitty clothing store.
It was called No Problem.
brian redban
That's when you're speaking about Puerto Rican, right?
christina pazsitzky
This was after the Puerto Rican guy, yeah.
And I remember I had this boss who, like, if somebody came in the door and she had to ring somebody up at the register at the same time, it was like a total meltdown.
Like, her brain couldn't process two things at once.
And I know she was a tweaker in the past.
joe rogan
Wow.
christina pazsitzky
You can just see them.
She's overwhelmed.
My step-sister's kind of like that, too.
She used to do meth, so she's all like...
tom segura
You can also sometimes tell by that face, that gaunt look.
Some of the teeth have offset.
Some of them replaced.
It's like a look.
brian redban
They're twitchy.
tom segura
They picked it too many times.
joe rogan
There used to be this tweaker that used to hang around the pool hall that I used to go to.
And I don't want to say her name, because she might still be alive.
And if she's still alive, she probably listens to this podcast.
So let's just call her X. Okay?
That's her name, X. And she was a...
brian redban
It's not my X. No.
joe rogan
Call her X. She wasn't anybody's X. She was...
I mean, I never saw a single guy that was...
I mean, she wasn't particularly ugly, but she was so cracked out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
All the time.
That it was just really odd to be around her.
It's like you were around someone who was going through a dream.
And she would play pool by herself and stare guys in the eyes.
And she was crazy.
And she became almost sort of family there.
She was there so often that she would sort of kind of hit on guys, but she was so crazy.
Nobody wanted to have anything to do with her.
I mean, she was completely insane.
But she became almost like our crackhead mascot.
That was there all the time.
christina pazsitzky
Throw chips at her.
joe rogan
Yeah, she would come in and play pool.
And I even think she got a job cleaning up at one point in time.
They gave her like some hours.
brian redban
You guys used to take turns on her when you got really drunk in the alley.
joe rogan
As crazy as pool hall people are, desperate, especially 24-hour gambling pool hall places, which this place was, nobody fucked her.
Nobody, dude.
tom segura
She was pretty bad.
joe rogan
It was bad.
But she was a sweet heart of a person.
I didn't ever communicate with her enough to go, hey, what are you doing?
What's going on?
What are you doing?
Crank?
What is it?
I never got to that conversation.
But, man, she would have these weird moments where she would think maybe I could go to dinner.
Maybe I didn't think anyone would have it.
We can just go to dinner.
And I'm like, I can't.
I can't go to dinner.
I have a girlfriend.
I can't go to dinner with anybody else but her.
Okay, no problem.
And she would go over and play pool and stare at you.
She was really like a character in a movie.
I remember me and my friend Johnny B were sitting there, we were watching her once, and she was giving us crazy googly eyes while she was knocking balls around the table.
She would play pool for like 20 minutes at a time and then bring the balls back.
So while she's doing this, she's playing, doing googly eyes, and Johnny looks at me, and my friend Johnny was like, this is a really streetwise kid.
He goes, yo, dog.
He goes, you put her in a movie?
And people would say it's too over the top.
They go, you gotta cut that character back.
Nobody's gonna believe this character.
Some fucking crazy bitch comes in all methed out and starts shooting balls around, giving people googly eyes, and she would put like a leg up in the air while she would make a shot and try to be like a ballerina or something.
She was completely cranked out.
It was really fascinating.
Because she wasn't that old.
I believe she was probably 30-ish, somewhere in her 30s.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, but it ages you.
tom segura
Drugs, though, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
It ages you and dog eaters.
joe rogan
It seemed like there might have been some crazy mixed in with the drugs, too.
It seems like there was a little bit of self-medicating going on.
tom segura
I like that there's always, with that type of person, with a crazy and or drug person, there's a real line between you being around them and being amused and then backing off because you're kind of scared of them.
Even if they're not a scary...
They're not physically imposing.
It's so big and so crazy what they do that you have fear on some level of how weird and crazy they get.
If it's a little bit less, you're like, oh, this is funny.
He's just kind of fucked up right now.
But then it goes over that line, you're like, this is terrifying.
When they're like, this is too much.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, you wonder what their perception of reality is like, whether or not they can really control themselves.
tom segura
Because that's somebody that could randomly kill somebody, usually.
You know, if you get fucked up and you don't know what's going on.
joe rogan
Yeah, if someone's fucking completely messed out, how much do they even know about what they're actually doing?
brian redban
A lot of it, like, if you just watch Cops, you see that episode all the time where they're, like, in some la-la land.
They would believe and do anything.
They think Abraham Lincoln's chasing them, you know?
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Because you stay up for days.
Like, you don't sleep on meth.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And you hallucinate.
brian redban
And meth, isn't meth just kind of like a speed, right?
christina pazsitzky
No, it's made of, like, battery acid and, like, sudeperin.
Pre-cum.
It's pre-cum.
unidentified
It gives you a speed effect, but it doesn't give you a visual effect, right?
tom segura
Well, it totally impairs your judgment on top of spiking you through the roof.
You have in your brain what stops you from doing certain things.
Your ability to make a judgment on, like, I shouldn't drive 150 down this road because of the dangers that apply.
All that goes out.
That's why they, you know, you've seen like I Survived, the woman was like kidnapped and these people that were messed out just stabbing her and, you know, cutting her slice.
Then they came back and they hit her with a car, they set her on fire.
joe rogan
Oh my god, she survived?
Yeah.
tom segura
And when they arrested them, you know, they were all tweaked out and later on they were all like, I didn't know that we did all that shit.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
christina pazsitzky
But that's why you should do cocaine instead.
It's a little better of a drug.
It's a grown-up drug.
If you can afford it, do coke.
joe rogan
It seems like some people just want to escape reality.
To be a person in this day and age that still wants to try meth for the first time, you must fucking hate your reality.
Your reality must suck so bad that the idea of being horribly addicted to one of the worst drugs ever created doesn't even faze you.
unidentified
Or heroin.
joe rogan
You're like, I'm going to try it.
But at least heroin has been connected to some great musicians.
That's a good point.
I had a discussion with some friends about Hendrix, because I always say that Hendrix did heroin.
And they were always, no, it was acid.
But it turns out he actually got arrested for heroin.
He got arrested in Toronto for heroin.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he definitely had some use of heroin.
tom segura
There's definitely a correlation between heroin and good music.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to say that that was his number one thing, but, I mean, Hendrix obviously was really into acid as well, and obviously a fucking musical genius.
There was just some shit that some dude can tune into that the average person can't, and he could just nail it.
I think he would have been fucking amazing if he did nothing, if he just drank water and fucking grapefruits.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, but heroin has influenced many, many musicians.
christina pazsitzky
Velvet Underground?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Lou Reed, right?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
He had a song about heroin, right?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
That one's scary to listen to, though.
joe rogan
I think it was a big part of a lot of musicians' experiences because it's such a sensual type of experience.
Like, the idea behind it is that it's so sensitive and raw, the experience of this blissful energy that the opiates provide.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That you can embrace the pure sound of music and see it.
tom segura
I can see the appeal more of getting in.
The appeal being that it's a great painkiller.
It takes you to this la la land.
You can romanticize that drug, but to start crystal meth, you're like, I want to eat rocks, man.
unidentified
I want to chew on rocks.
tom segura
That's kind of What you're saying you want to do, you know?
christina pazsitzky
I guess I don't get drugs where you have crazy energy, but it's unfocused energy.
Because I think with meth, I don't know, can you do stuff?
tom segura
Yeah, people do stuff.
christina pazsitzky
Can you win the Nobel Prize on meth?
tom segura
I don't know.
christina pazsitzky
Can you make good music on that?
tom segura
We'll do tasks.
joe rogan
I think what he said about judgment, I think your judgment is really involved in every single aspect of what you do.
And when you're doing a drug that fucks your judgment, what happened?
What did he say?
christina pazsitzky
No, no.
I was just thinking, like, what...
I mean, Hendrix could focus on heroin.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think he was using heroin that much.
brian redban
I think it was more acid.
joe rogan
Well, they said that one of the things he used to do is put acid in his headband.
So that when he had it on, his pores would open up while he was on stage.
It would drip into his skin.
Wow.
Yeah, I don't know if that's an urban legend, though.
brian redban
Something like a hippie thing to say.
joe rogan
It sounds like, yeah.
christina pazsitzky
But you can't function on acid.
joe rogan
Sounds like someone really annoying would tell you.
Yeah, but I don't know if that's true.
christina pazsitzky
I could never function on acid.
joe rogan
Well, someone threw a no-hitter on acid.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
Who was that?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah!
tom segura
I remember that!
christina pazsitzky
And he was like, I partied all day, and then my friend was like, you gotta play a game, man!
And he had stayed up all night, right?
tom segura
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Doc Ellis.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
That's funny.
Doc Ellis.
Yeah, he threw a no-hitter while on acid.
brian redban
And now he's the parking lot guy at that comedy store.
tom segura
That story, they did a really good job of animating that online.
joe rogan
The Doc Ellis thing?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, I did.
joe rogan
I saw that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
What was that for?
tom segura
I think he told that story.
unidentified
I forget.
tom segura
I don't know who he told it to.
But they did an animation to the story that's awesome.
unidentified
Wow.
tom segura
Really good.
joe rogan
I could see how it could go right.
I've never done acid.
I should say that right off the bat.
The only psychedelics I've ever done are DMT, mushrooms, ecstasy, which isn't really a psychedelic.
I've done the Amanita muscaria mushroom and the other kind, psilocybin.
But no acid.
And no one I've ever trusted had it.
brian redban
You know?
joe rogan
It's always been like someone's...
You know, if it came up, it was someone who just had this weird glint in their eye.
And I was like...
No.
tom segura
No.
joe rogan
It's too complicated.
And it's too illegal.
It's really difficult to make.
So if you're making it, like you're out there on the fringes, son.
Some people just got busted recently.
Some school somewhere.
Some kids were producing acid and they busted them.
brian redban
I wouldn't do acid again.
I've done it probably over a hundred times.
unidentified
Jesus!
A hundred times?
christina pazsitzky
There you go.
brian redban
It was probably way over a hundred.
That's why you're seven.
joe rogan
It probably didn't help.
brian redban
It's something I don't want to do.
I can't believe I do mushrooms now.
I never really considered mushrooms bad.
joe rogan
Mushrooms teach me shit, man.
Every time I've done mushrooms, I just have a new revelation, a new insight in things.
brian redban
The problem with ass is that it's too much of a commitment.
Like where mushrooms is usually like four or five hours.
What's that?
tom segura
You won't do mushrooms anymore?
brian redban
No, I will.
Lately I'm just more scared of the mushrooms that have been going around.
I think that they're not the right kind.
Have you done that over a hundred times too?
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You're scared of the mushrooms that are going around?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Based on what?
brian redban
It's just I don't trust mushrooms as much as I trust mushrooms.
joe rogan
Well, it's kind of along the same lines.
Where are you getting this from?
You're getting this from someone willing to stick their neck out and sell something illegally, which is often the case.
But apparently there's some sort of a loophole, and truffles are not illegal.
You can get psilocybin truffles.
Go Google that shit, folks.
Don't listen to me.
I don't want to be a purveyor of any...
brian redban
I've never heard of truffles.
joe rogan
Schedule 1 information.
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
I think that Doc Ellis was taking other drugs in conjunction with just acid.
unidentified
Holla!
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, because I've taken a lot of acid, and I don't know.
I didn't even know where I was.
There are times you're like, where am I? In a convenience store?
Where am I? In a convenience store?
Where am I? I can't even know.
joe rogan
But people react differently on it, right?
Some people...
christina pazsitzky
I don't know.
I wish I could know.
brian redban
It's just like mushrooms for the most part.
It's either it could be all visuals or it could be speedy.
Sometimes you're just in a...
joe rogan
Well, for pool players, there's always been two things.
Amphetamines and, if you can handle it, heroin.
And the guys who would do heroin had no nerves.
They had no nerves.
They wouldn't feel any nervousness.
So they'd gamble for ridiculous amounts of money and just never miss.
There was a dude, his name was Water Dog.
That was his nickname.
Or Buffalo Bill, depending on who you name.
And he would always come and they would make a game.
They'd figure out how much they were going to bet.
And it was always a lot of money because he was like a top level local player.
And then he would go to the bathroom and he would shoot up.
And he would come back and he would sit on a stool.
And he would sit on this bar stool like this.
Just like this.
I mean, I'm not bullshitting his hands like a T-Rex and just sit there for like a half an hour just blasted on heroin.
And then he would get off and then he would screw his cue together and he wouldn't miss a fucking ball.
He was a monster.
They played on this table.
There was a gambling table that they had.
And a regular pool table's pockets are 5 inches.
They're like these big sloppy open pockets where you don't have to hit a ball absolutely perfectly.
They had these under 4 inches.
It was under 4. It was like 3 and 3 quarter inches.
It was fucking ridiculous.
The ball barely fit through the hole.
And this motherfucker was just firing things in.
He wouldn't miss.
He couldn't miss.
It was incredible.
He wasn't nervous at all.
They were betting thousands of dollars.
It was maybe $10,000 each.
It was a very high bet.
Because the guy he was doing it with was a horse jockey.
They had different kinds of carts.
Horses would pull carts.
What the fuck are those things?
brian redban
Wagons?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's like a type of racing.
The horse is actually pulling a cart behind it.
It's not just the horse running and the guy on top of it.
And he was just a crazy gambler.
And he would play this fucking guy.
And he would get so bummed out because he knew he couldn't...
The guy couldn't miss because he's unharrible.
unidentified
He's on the shit!
That's what he said.
Look at him, the motherfucker.
joe rogan
He can't miss.
unidentified
He's on the shit!
joe rogan
The guy would be complaining.
But he wouldn't even care that he was complaining.
So he just had a slack jaw look and just...
The balls would just...
Fire into the hole.
tom segura
Would they get into the heroin because they knew it would help the nerves?
Is that why they would even get into it?
joe rogan
They're degenerates.
Who knows?
Most of those guys, they were looking to party at all times.
Pool players are some of the wildest human beings.
People that have actually made a commitment to trying to make their entire living off of tricking people to gamble with them that don't play as good as them and then betting all your money on that.
Those people are nuts.
brian redban
Bullying poker.
joe rogan
They're nuts.
There's a good percentage of them that are nuts.
A lot of them aren't.
A lot of them are really cool and smart people that are just in love with pool and that's all they want to do.
The tournament guys.
The guys that travel from tournament to tournament.
Even the best ones of them are the gamblers.
The best tournament guys.
The guys like this kid named Shane Van Boning who's deaf.
And when he plays he shuts his hearing aid off.
Wow!
And he goes into his own little world and he doesn't give a fuck.
He doesn't hear shit.
He just plays.
christina pazsitzky
That's so cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, it does everything on feel.
No hearing, you know?
It's kind of fascinating.
To the point where people have actually accused him of having an advantage.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
And one guy was playing him, this guy Earl Strickland, actually stuffed his ears with cotton and then put big, like those...
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, aviator headsets on.
unidentified
What a dick.
joe rogan
Like someone who would...
christina pazsitzky
That is a dick, man.
joe rogan
Work at the fucking towers.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The flight guys.
That's what he would wear.
Yeah, and he would play pool with that on.
It's hilarious.
Yeah, there's some fucking characters.
unidentified
You can't hear?
Yeah, I can't hear either, asshole.
joe rogan
He's got these goddamn huge headphones on, man.
tom segura
What a ridiculous asshole.
joe rogan
With stuffing in his ears.
He's crazy.
But he's brilliant.
Brilliant and crazy at the same time.
These pool players, that's a nutty life.
So, you know, when you ask what came first, the heroin or the pool, it was all together.
Yeah, yeah.
They're all hanging out at these 24-hour pool places.
They were the most fun I had ever had as a kid growing up.
tom segura
What city was this in that you were in?
joe rogan
White Plains, New York.
Executive Billiards.
christina pazsitzky
24 hours a day.
joe rogan
Well, we had the keys.
My friend owned it.
My friend Guy was the owner of the place.
So we were always there.
So Guy would keep it open and we would lock the door and we would all play by ourselves.
We had people in there gambling and playing by themselves late at night.
It was just such a clubhouse.
And I had...
I don't want to say a cunty girlfriend, but she was a little on the negative side.
We had problems because of that.
She didn't mean to be.
She's not a bad person at all.
It's just sort of the way she grew up.
She had a hard life.
When we were interacting, if she would bum me out, I just couldn't wait to get the fuck away from her and get back to that pool hall where I knew some crazy shit was going on.
I knew there was two dudes who were gambling on roaches to see which roach could get to the corner first.
And it was like yelling, man, yo, you can't coach the roach, bro.
You can't coach the roach.
It was like everything was always fun.
It was a bunch of men.
And there was very little violence.
And all the years that I was there, I saw a couple of little minor altercations.
Nothing serious at all.
But it was always fun.
You'd always go there.
And it was a bunch of men who really didn't want to grow up.
And my friend Max Eberle, who's a professional, he said that there was, at one point in time in this country, there was a bachelor class of men that never wanted to get married.
They just didn't want to do it, and a lot of those guys would go to pool halls.
And that's one of the reasons why pool halls got such a bad reputation, is that everybody else, in his mind, and Max is a really nice guy, He's a very easy-going guy, but in his mind, he's like, why is there this desire to get people to enforce or to live some other form of life that he doesn't want to live?
If he doesn't want to get married, he doesn't want to have to have children, why can't you just let him hang out at the pool hall?
But they would always be considered degenerates because of that desire.
It would always be assumed that if you wanted to be someplace where you're playing pool at 4 o'clock in the morning, terrible things were afoot.
Right.
Usually they were right.
christina pazsitzky
They could be out doing actually bad things, so they're just playing pool.
joe rogan
Well, the reason is because the people that are willing to be up at 4 o'clock in the morning hanging out all night at this pool hall are the same people who are not going to listen to whatever anybody tells them to, and they're going to want to try to do whatever they want to do.
And if whatever they want to do is just gamble all day, I mean...
Why stop them?
As long as they're not robbing anybody.
Yeah, as long as they're not doing anything illegal.
There was a shockingly small amount of criminals in all the time that I hung out at these pool halls.
You'd think there's way more criminals, way more crime.
Very little.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, because of the late night and the boozing and the drugs.
joe rogan
No, it wasn't even that.
There wasn't really that many bad guys there.
These guys wanted to do what they wanted to do.
Exactly.
I remember there was this one dude.
It was really fascinating.
He learned how to play chess in his head in prison.
He could sit down with a chess board and he could either tell you the moves and he would watch your move.
He would never move a piece.
He would just tell you what the moves are.
Or he could do it all in his head.
Like you have a chessboard in your head, I have a chessboard in my head.
And I say pawn to the step.
And then you have to keep account of where all your pieces are.
unidentified
Jesus.
agree.
joe rogan
Pawn is at this spot, right?
You know, you have to, like, you can't, without actually, without, no chessboard.
Wow.
Yes.
These guys are brilliant.
See, this isn't a dumb guy.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
This is a guy that just didn't want to do certain things in life.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, sure.
joe rogan
He was gambling once, and it was late at night.
It was like after midnight.
And he goes, he looked at his watch, and they were going to play another set.
And he goes, do you want to play another set?
He goes...
I've been thinking about getting a fucking divorce lately, so yes.
Yes, I do.
And he wound up getting a divorce.
He decided right there that he doesn't want anybody to tell him to come home after midnight.
And he's like, shut the fuck up.
I want to play pool.
I'm playing pool.
He was a brilliant dude.
There was a kid who was a local kid who was an actual chess champion.
Really young kid.
And he was just learning how to play pool.
But at chess, he was like a super wizard.
And him and this guy would sit in a corner and they would exchange back and forth.
They would go over their moves together.
It was amazing.
Amazing to watch.
brian redban
I've never heard that before.
They have a little picnic blanket, and they're both sitting there with a little picnic basket, just laying on their side, looking at each other, doing mind chess with each other.
The wind slowly blows their air.
joe rogan
I'm sure there's couples that do that, and they think it's sexy.
Yeah, sure.
christina pazsitzky
But you said he learned that in prison?
joe rogan
Yep.
brian redban
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, I knew a lot of prisoners.
Or a lot of felons, rather.
That I knew.
There was very little crime that I saw, but I knew a lot of people who had done a lot of crime in the past.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
One dude, his name was International Sal.
And International Sal, rest his soul, died a few years ago.
And when he was younger, what he used to do is he was one of the first guys.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
He was a gem of a human.
He was a gem of a human.
And for the first days of American Express cards, he figured out how to copy the American Express card from the papers that would be left behind when you would make a carbon slip.
So they would make a complete copy of your card and then use it and buy things and run up.
unidentified
Fantastic.
joe rogan
I love to sit like that.
And he was a notorious gambling loser.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
He just could not win.
He could not win.
And he would wait at the pool hall and they would come by and they would bring him thousands of dollars.
And he would go and blow it all playing pool.
Like the guy who I was talking about earlier about the heroin guy, this guy is George the Greek.
And George the Greek would always talk, the fucking guy can't win.
The guy can't fucking win, I'm telling you.
I don't give a fuck if it's an inch from the hole.
You bet on the other cocksucker.
You bet on...
And he would always, you know, just sit there and analyze this international style character.
unidentified
And he goes, well, let me tell you something, this motherfucker, he lost a million a month.
joe rogan
Lost a million a month.
Whether that's true, who the fuck knows?
Who the fuck knows how much he really lost?
But apparently he lost an incredible amount of money playing pool.
And the people were like, you know, just robbed him.
They would just rob him constantly.
So then he went to jail.
Then he came back out and went legit.
And when I met him, he was legit.
So when I met him, it was all just the stories of international style.
But it was fascinating.
He would sit down and tell you What it was like.
tom segura
International sound.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
He has such a fucking degenerate name.
Yeah.
I mean, it's for like a gambler or like a mobster or something.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
I'm Cole Sto'Brien.
joe rogan
I got to speak to him like a couple of years before he died.
I called up the pool hall once to say hi to everybody.
And he was still alive.
And I said hi to him.
I used to like the guy.
I used to like hanging out and talking to him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Tell me old criminal stories.
Because when I met him, he was already probably like in his 60s.
He was probably already...
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
I met a lot of crazy motherfuckers in that place.
Whenever you're in sort of an alternate environment like that.
christina pazsitzky
Like comedy clubs?
joe rogan
Yeah, comedy clubs, exactly.
christina pazsitzky
Perfect example.
Derelict.
tom segura
Parallel between people like that and comedy.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
And boxing gyms, too.
Anything where you're doing something that's completely outside of the norm.
Some of the funniest people I've ever met in my life have been fighters.
I bet.
Because they're so ridiculous.
First of all, a lot of them are fucked.
Tate used to say some funny shit, man.
He was always saying some pretty funny shit.
Because he's a goddamn savage.
He's a former mixed martial arts fighter, big fucking giant caveman, Viking dude.
brian redban
Stinky farts.
unidentified
Stinky farts.
Were they really?
christina pazsitzky
Was he the one that ate meat all the time?
joe rogan
Yeah, protein bars and shit.
christina pazsitzky
Sure.
joe rogan
No, he's a big dude.
You gotta eat a lot.
The digestive tract can only handle so much protein.
unidentified
It blows it out in the form of just toxic gas.
joe rogan
But fighters have a certain sense of humor.
Much like comics do, where it's that dark, they're willing to go where other people aren't willing to go sense of humor.
You know, pointing out something that everybody might be thinking but not everybody's saying.
tom segura
And don't really think before they say it kind of shit.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Very impulsive.
Well, you have to almost be to try to do that in the first place because it's such a crazy thing to decide to do with your body.
christina pazsitzky
To put up with the physical torture of it.
To put yourself out there to get beaten.
joe rogan
There's a little bit of that too, but there's, you know...
Just the impulsiveness of just getting involved in it.
For some people it's actually a slow thing and they slowly get into it and get into martial arts and eventually want to be a fighter, but some people just fucking right away want to fight.
There's just a wild impulsiveness to them.
I've seen cage fights where guys had literally a week's training.
They had never done anything and they were fighting and they had a week's training and they just fucking go wild on each other and shit and swing and craziness and No one really knew how to fight.
It was essentially a street fight with a few rules.
christina pazsitzky
Remember that show we saw was at Taboo where there was a place in Australia where a guy has a circus tent and he has like fighters.
unidentified
I told you about this on the Chronicles.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yes, you did.
Please keep going.
christina pazsitzky
So you go into the circus tent in Australia and the drunks and people off the street come in and he sends you with a fighter.
And you can fight a professional fighter.
joe rogan
That's so dangerous.
christina pazsitzky
But at the same time, kind of awesome and serves a function.
If you're just some angry, drunk 18-year-old boy who wants to fight, well, go over there instead of beating up.
tom segura
It's not like a Cain Velasquez steps in.
They're like, this dude might kill you.
They're people that have...
They're boxing.
They're boxers that are...
What they are is they're not championship level boxers.
joe rogan
But it's only boxing?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
tom segura
And it's just boxing.
You throw on gloves.
And if you throw somebody that knows how to box, just has a few years of boxing, knows how to move and jab and actually box versus a guy who's like, I'm fucking crazy.
And you're just like, here's gloves, go at it.
That dude with the boxing skills is just going to put on a clinic.
And that's what they do.
And everyone's drinking.
It's like a fun episode.
They don't like...
joe rogan
But what if some guy's a ringer?
What if there's some Kimbo Slice type character?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
I don't know.
joe rogan
Ready to fucking knock that dude's block off.
If anybody can get in, right?
tom segura
Yeah.
Liability's got to be crazy.
We used to have those here.
This is...
2012, man.
I'm like, dude, we just saw the show.
It's not like some shit I'm talking about from the 60s.
This is going on right now.
joe rogan
I fucking love Australia, dude.
tom segura
It's awesome.
joe rogan
I love it.
Tommy and I had a great time there.
christina pazsitzky
It's great.
Country.
joe rogan
Nice people.
tom segura
So much fun.
joe rogan
We talked about it.
Was that the Ice House Chronicles 2?
Yeah.
Tommy and I went and we were there with Eddie Bravo and we went to see that stupid Leonardo DiCaprio movie.
unidentified
Shudder Island.
joe rogan
He was crazy.
Which a lot of people liked.
brian redban
I liked it.
tom segura
I liked that fucking movie.
brian redban
I love that movie.
christina pazsitzky
That movie sucks.
unidentified
What is it called?
brian redban
Inception.
tom segura
Shudder Island.
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
Oh, Shudder Island.
brian redban
I love Shudder Island too.
joe rogan
I thought it was pretty good.
tom segura
You hold on for the twist and you're like, oh, so he is crazy?
Like the thing that we kept considering the whole time?
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
Like, he's crazy.
Maybe he's not crazy.
Maybe he's crazy.
And then they go, yeah, he was crazy.
joe rogan
It didn't make sense to me that you're showing me this, you know, you're showing me from his perspective first and then from an outside perspective.
tom segura
I was wanting so much more from that movie.
brian redban
There's a better version of it, I guess.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, I'm like, cabin in the woods, awesome.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So we didn't like it.
Me and Eddie and Tom, we were all in agreement.
It felt like we got tricked.
It was a trick, right?
tom segura
Absolutely.
joe rogan
So we decided to get hammered.
So we went to some local bar and just went crazy.
We went fucking crazy.
tom segura
We had just landed, so our body clocks were like a day off.
joe rogan
And we just started buying drinks for everybody.
There was like hundreds of people.
I don't know how much.
I literally spent thousands of dollars.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know how many people I bought drinks for.
christina pazsitzky
That's awesome.
joe rogan
But I wanted, like, I don't know what, I mean, we just had a couple of shots and the idea came across to just fucking, I could buy drinks for everybody.
Let me just, A bunch of fucking people drink.
So I just started pointing to people.
Do you want a drink, man?
Dude, give me a high five.
What do you want?
brian redban
You used to be at the comedy store every weekend back in the day almost.
joe rogan
Well, I would buy the whole crowd a drink if I kicked somebody out.
That was my move.
brian redban
It happened almost every week.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, because there was always at least once a month you would get a crazy heckler.
Like someone who you just couldn't deal with.
You'd be like, come on, man.
You can't keep talking while the show's going on.
This shit is...
It's annoying to all the other people around you, and they all start cheering, and they go like, bro, I want you to enjoy the show.
I want you to enjoy the show.
You gotta stop yelling shit out, okay?
And then they'd yell shit out again.
All right, fuck this.
You gotta go.
And then when it got to that point, I'm like, I'm sorry, dude, but you gotta go.
And then when the people would leave, I would say, look, and that felt creepy, right?
It felt like daddy came home, yelled at mommy.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I go, I don't want anything uncomfortable, so my custom is when I kick someone out, I buy everyone else a drink.
And so everybody goes, yay!
I go, I want to have fun.
I don't want to have to deal with that, but it's my job.
Unfortunately, when there's someone like that, you have to deal with them because it's interrupting the show for the other people.
It's fucking with the performance.
And there's nothing you can do about it other than address it.
You have to address it.
tom segura
I think some people don't consider that aspect of it the most, too, is that A lot of times people think that that person's just bothering you, and they're not even considering the fact that maybe in that section where that asshole keeps yelling shit out, there are 25 people around him who are like, I wish somebody would get rid of this motherfucker because he's ruining my experience.
joe rogan
There was a couple of those in Florida.
There was several kickouts in Florida.
One of them was a cop.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Turns out the chick was outside and they put her hands on her.
She pulled a badge out on the guy.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, she said, get your hands off me.
And this bitch, she got kicked out for being hammered and she was a cop.
But there was several people that got kicked out.
One of them was a table that wouldn't shut the fuck up.
So the neighbor table slammed his hand on the table and said, shut the fuck up.
And then the guy got up and he was enormous.
It was a huge mistake.
I mean, the guy didn't do anything, but holy shit, what I'm talking about.
He looked like a football player, like a 300-pound football player.
I was like, holy fuck, that guy's big.
And he's pointing down at them, and I'm like, oh, please, Lord.
Not a fucking bench-clearing brawl.
So I asked him, I said, sir, what's going on, sir?
Can you tell me what's going on, sir?
And I hear a lot of, fuck you!
You fucking touched my table!
And I'm like, sir, what happened?
Were you enjoying the show before all this happened?
And this lady goes, before these fucking assholes had a slap down on our table!
So they take her husband out, and I go, ma'am, we're going to need you to calm down.
Are you going to stay?
Are you going to arrest him?
Is that what's going to go on?
What's going on?
Are they just going to kick him out?
They just kicked him out, and then she said, you know, they were fucking slapping on me.
And then the table goes, yeah, we slapped on your table because you wouldn't shut the fuck up.
And everybody went, yeah!
And the whole place started cheering for this guy, and I'm like, wow.
And I asked her, I go, have you ever done mushrooms?
And then I go, you probably haven't done mushrooms, right?
I go, because if you did, you'd feel terrible about this.
You'd realize you're just being real negative and selfish.
This is just creepy.
You want to talk and you're mad.
I go, you should feel horrible that you were so talkative that people had to slap their hand on your table because you're interrupting their fun, their evening, their good time with your squawking.
And then she gave me the finger.
And I said, well, that's really bad karma right there.
I go, what are you doing right here?
christina pazsitzky
Karma.
unidentified
I love it.
joe rogan
I'm like, you're spreading the wrong kind of energy.
That's the wrong signal.
It's not nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
But it was just one of those things where you're going to run into a certain percentage of those people.
tom segura
It's going to happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
It's part of the business.
joe rogan
It's fun though.
It's part of what...
Look, everybody got out of it.
No one got hurt.
People got drunk.
People got kicked out.
But at the end of the day, the rest of the audience had a great fucking time.
That was one of the nuttiest shows ever.
The one where the lady and the guy got kicked out.
tom segura
Yeah, I've seen some wild ones, man.
I saw a guy in the audience one time punch another guy.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've seen a brawl.
I've seen a brawl or two.
christina pazsitzky
During your show?
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Like in the showroom?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, I've seen it a couple times.
I've seen guys get in fights.
It's almost always someone talking.
tom segura
I saw a guy that punched the guy.
Punched him because they told him to shut up.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, always.
Yeah, always.
Shut the fuck up, man.
tom segura
Will you stop talking?
unidentified
I love that.
christina pazsitzky
I love the punk rockness of stand-up.
It's the only form of entertainment where the audience is allowed to, first of all, eat nachos and drink and shit and then yell at you.
What other, in the theater, if we were proper performers, that could never happen.
unidentified
If we were just stage actors and shit doing plays.
christina pazsitzky
You can't yell at people.
tom segura
No, I know.
christina pazsitzky
It's not acceptable.
It's so bananas.
tom segura
It's not acceptable.
brian redban
Bananas.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, it's not.
unidentified
I hate this play, man.
tom segura
You're like, I know.
brian redban
Never.
joe rogan
Did you see the YouTube video of the guy who's doing this performance art piece in New York and there was a big Christian contingent in the audience?
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
You haven't seen this?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I forget the dude's name.
I should probably YouTube it or something like that.
Christians Walk Out on...
I don't even know how I would YouTube it.
I don't even know how I would find it.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you could find it, Brian, this Christian's walkout on live performance.
They poured water on his notes.
He was doing a bit, and in the bit, he was like, it's something to do with if you were having sex with Paris Hilton.
Like, in the moment, you'd be saying, you'd be fucking, you'd be going, wow, I can't believe I'm fucking Paris Hilton.
And then Paris Hilton would be thinking, I can't believe I'm fucking Paris Hilton at the same time.
It was really, you know, it was kind of funny.
And this guy gets up, and then they all get up.
There's like 80 people that were there from a Christian group, and they start pouring water on his notes.
And these were his original notes.
And this is, he doesn't have anything typed out.
He has it all, his whole show, written down on these notes.
This guy poured water on it, and it, you know, it's like they were...
They were pissed and storming out of there because they thought that somehow or another this was offensive.
tom segura
How was this effective?
joe rogan
I don't know.
They tried to grab his notes too.
tom segura
They're just big Paris Hilton fans?
joe rogan
No!
I just think that it was the idea of them, someone talking about fucking in front of them.
They're a bunch of creepy weirdos is really basically what it is.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, look, the whole idea of these Christian groups and, you know, you're going to go up and pour water on someone's notes and you're going to be upset at them for their words.
You stupid fuck.
That's anti-Christian, you dummy.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That's absolutely the antithesis of what you're supposed to be doing.
tom segura
I heard people get upset about stuff when they yell at you.
I love when they're just so upset about a certain topic or joke and they're like, I remember with you one time, I don't know, is this on your last special, with the baby?
joe rogan
Which one?
tom segura
The baby...
brian redban
I don't think it's doing that.
joe rogan
Which bit?
tom segura
Was it the kids getting...
Oh, if I walked in on a little...
joe rogan
No, that's never been on any special.
tom segura
Is that coming on this one?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I haven't been doing it.
I think that bit might have passed its time.
Sometimes I have bits that just pass their time.
tom segura
But people get upset.
They're like, how dare you?
That's a five-year-old boy or whatever.
joe rogan
You know what I'm going to do with that bit, man?
I'm going to use that bit as a fucking bonus extra.
brian redban
Yeah, I always liked it a bit.
It got me a little hard.
joe rogan
You know what it did?
I didn't do it well in Ohio to the special.
It was like something was off and I decided to get it out.
tom segura
Yeah, people get it.
unidentified
I like when they get a righteous indignation.
christina pazsitzky
I talk about some guy that's fucking a dolphin.
He was on the Howard Stern show and he was having sex with his dolphin regularly.
I didn't fucking make it up.
I'm just reporting it and people are like...
Oh, no!
Oh, no!
It's like, really?
You don't think in the world that this exists as a grown-up topic?
joe rogan
You know, it's just right now, you haven't really quite gotten your full stride as far as people recognizing how funny you are and having your own crowd.
I'm sure your podcast has changed a lot of it, right?
tom segura
It's helped.
It's definitely helped.
joe rogan
And by the way, folks, the podcast is called Your Mom's House.
Why?
Why?
tom segura
Why is it called Your Mom's House?
christina pazsitzky
We're obsessed with that whole phenomenon of calling each other mommy.
What's the worst thing you could call your spouse?
It's like mommy.
And we started doing it in 07 or 08 and it just stuck.
It's just part of our vernacular in the house.
tom segura
I'm going out to the store.
I'll be back, mommy.
It's just stupid to say, like silly.
unidentified
So dumb.
tom segura
And then I always thought that your mom jokes were dumb, so I thought it would be fun.
christina pazsitzky
It's just juvenile.
tom segura
Yeah, it's just juvenile.
christina pazsitzky
We're real juvenile.
tom segura
The whole show is juvenile.
So just to say, your mom's house.
It's like, where are you going?
I'm going to your mom's house.
It's just silly to say.
It's dumb.
But that's what amuses me, is that it's silly.
joe rogan
Well, you guys are both very silly.
You're my favorite married couple that are comedians, because you're the only ones that are still together.
christina pazsitzky
Thank you.
joe rogan
Everybody else I know, they drop like flies.
christina pazsitzky
Oh my gosh.
I don't know many others.
joe rogan
Well, you know, in our business, do you guys want some more of this?
Not baby powder.
christina pazsitzky
Thank you.
joe rogan
In our business, there's a lot of us that are fucked in the head.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
I mean, this job, it's almost a given that there's going to be a certain amount of You're fucked in the head if you want to become a comedian.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
And so then to find someone who's got the right kind of fucked in your head that meshes with your kind of fucked in the head is what it's all about.
Yeah, that's what it is, right?
tom segura
Absolutely.
That's the best way to break it down.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's all...
Like, fucked in the head, people think is bad, but it's not bad.
If it wasn't for all of my fucked in the heads, I wouldn't have ever gotten anywhere.
christina pazsitzky
That's right.
joe rogan
Because most of my impulses are to do things that are fucking completely risky, really have a fucking terrible future success ratio.
Really, no chance you're going to fucking get by.
If you had a kid and he said, hey, Dad, I'm thinking about being a stand-up, you'd be like, oh, fuck.
Oh, Jesus.
tom segura
Don't do that.
joe rogan
Especially if he wasn't funny.
That, exactly.
That's how my mom treated it when I told her I was going to do it.
unidentified
Oh, I dropped out of law school to be a comic after two weeks.
christina pazsitzky
Imagine that.
And my parents are immigrants who escaped from Hungary to come here.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
christina pazsitzky
So, like, the double.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
tom segura
Yeah.
But it is that we met.
Like, we talk about that, like, who else would tolerate what you say, you know?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, because we're very inappropriate by normal people, whatever, standards, outside of comedy world people.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was talking with Amy Schumer about this.
We're sitting down and she said something about her mom, like what her mom was made of.
And somehow or another I got to asking her whether or not her mom was a cunt or insinuating her mom was a cunt.
And I was like, it's so fun that you know with comedians you can do that.
unidentified
Yeah, and it's fine.
joe rogan
My mom is a cunt.
You know, you can say that.
But if you say that to a lot of regular people, they're like, fuck you, man.
That's my mom.
Bro, that's not cool.
You know, we say that to each other.
That's the dude.
What's his name?
brian redban
His name is Mike Daisy.
Audience protest on YouTube.
joe rogan
Look how badass Brian is.
How did you not win the Shorty Award, dude?
brian redban
Because it's not real.
Do you want to hear it?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Play it.
It's kind of interesting.
unidentified
For the moment.
Because you're thinking about what that moment signifies.
And Paris Hilton, what's Paris Hilton thinking?
Paris Hilton is thinking, oh my god, oh my god, I'm Paris Hilton.
joe rogan
That was the punchline that I had already gave away.
unidentified
And that's New York.
joe rogan
Now they get up.
So he's sitting there.
He's got this changed look on his face.
unidentified
How big a group is getting up?
joe rogan
I think it's like 40 people or something like that.
It was like the first time his show had sold out.
And now he doesn't know what's going on.
He's sitting there.
They're getting up.
And then one guy takes his water and he starts pouring it on the notes.
So Christian-like.
And then he shoves the water bottle in Mike's glass.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah, he just got up and fucked with them.
joe rogan
And they said they're leaving because of the language.
That's the producer.
And so he tries to talk to them.
He gets up, and all these people are filing out.
unidentified
Hey, do any of you people who are leaving want to stay and talk about this, or do you want to run out like cowards?
Do you want to talk about this like adults that you came to my show to see, or do you want to walk out like cowards?
Because I can refrain from using language when talking to you, but I'd like you to use the English language to talk to me.
You insulted my show.
You poured water on my art.
You messed up my things here.
Do you all intend to just walk out of here?
Hey, ma'am, you appear to be an adult.
Would you like to stay and talk about this?
joe rogan
Okay, so then he gets back and he kind of like, he takes it really well.
He comes back and sits down and then starts joking around about it.
unidentified
Are you guys leaving?
Is there anyone that would like to speak to what?
Ma'am, please take a message back to your people.
People of Earth.
Thank you.
Yes.
Go into my face!
You disgust me.
Get out of my theater.
We're going to stay, stay.
I can't believe none of you, none of you would have the guts to stay here and talk to me.
joe rogan
That guy doesn't sound gay.
christina pazsitzky
Jesus, why?
unidentified
Are you with this group?
Oh, okay.
Well, we don't have to.
We're talking already.
joe rogan
But the point is, just like your shows, a lot of people, they don't know exactly what you're doing.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
They're coming to a comedy show.
unidentified
Just whatever.
joe rogan
Yeah, whatever's there.
christina pazsitzky
But you wouldn't do that to a movie.
What's playing at the movie theater?
I don't care.
I'll pay money and two drinks and everything.
joe rogan
Assholes would.
Yeah, assholes would.
They would yell out at the movie theater too.
tom segura
The crazy thing about when they go to comedy is when they assume that the show and the comedy should be presented to their tastes.
Otherwise, when they're like, yeah, but I'm not into this.
It's like, this isn't for you.
joe rogan
I had a lady yell out next subject once at the Next subject.
I think she even said drop it.
Next subject.
Wow.
tom segura
I've had that when they go, like, move it along.
christina pazsitzky
Oh boy.
tom segura
Let's get past this.
joe rogan
It was my cloning Jesus bit.
There was a company called, I forget what it was.
It turned out to be a parody.
Oh, the Second Coming Project.
That's what the idea was.
The idea was they're going to take genetic material off of the Shroud of Turin and they were going to use it to clone Jesus.
And then my joke was like, that stuff, first of all, is not 100% accurate.
Like Dolly the Sheep, they had to clone a bunch of Dollies before they got one that would live.
I go, what if they clone Jesus and he comes back retarded?
I go, what happens then?
And I go, dude, what do you want to do?
It's your call.
I go, I say we follow him.
It could be a test.
It feels like a test to me.
Instead of turning water into wine, he would turn dog shit into cookies.
unidentified
That was his move.
joe rogan
I like that Jesus.
I had this bed and I was in the middle of doing it and this fucking chick just goes, she just goes, next subject!
Next subject!
But people feel like if you're, especially if you're saying something about religion, which even though to the rational person it really is kind of silly to be connected inexorably to some ideology, who's ringing?
unidentified
Oh my.
brian redban
It's probably the most unprofessional person in the room.
joe rogan
It's probably me, then.
brian redban
I thought it was Tommy.
tom segura
Why am I so unprofessional?
brian redban
I'm just kidding.
unidentified
How dare you, seven-year-old type man.
brian redban
Hey, so I got a new game for you guys to play.
tom segura
I don't know.
brian redban
Try to not flush the toilet as long as possible.
So you have to stack your shit on hers, vice versa.
unidentified
I call it Fleshless in Seattle.
brian redban
Just try it and see if you can go three days.
That's my cutoff.
christina pazsitzky
Tommy wins after one performance.
joe rogan
I'm sorry about that.
My apologies for the phone ringing.
What the hell were we talking about?
I shut the other phone off, didn't I? Hopefully.
tom segura
You're talking about...
christina pazsitzky
Jesus bits.
tom segura
Oh, next bit.
christina pazsitzky
People freaking out.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just a, you know, especially what I was saying is when it's a religious thing.
Like, people really feel like this is something you are not allowed to talk about.
You know, this is my religion.
It's funny when they say that.
You shouldn't talk about politics or religion.
Those are two things you should avoid.
Well, there's only a couple left for me to find out if you're crazy.
What do you think about ghosts?
You ever see a UFO? There's only a couple more things I have left for me to find out if you're fucking crazy.
Once you get through politics, as soon as you go, well, I've always been a Republican.
I'm going to stick with the party.
I think the party line is absolutely right.
And sometimes we go a little off track.
Oh, you crazy asshole.
So if I can't talk politics with that guy...
We're going to talk Bigfoot.
We're going to talk Sasquatch.
christina pazsitzky
There you go.
tom segura
Yeah, people get really fired up.
joe rogan
They get fucking mad, man.
They feel like they're allowed to get mad, too.
It's not like if they disagree with you.
tom segura
They take pride in getting mad about it.
joe rogan
Sure.
Well, it's righteous.
christina pazsitzky
It is.
joe rogan
It's righteous.
unidentified
To be offended.
joe rogan
Even to the point of finding an excuse to commit violence.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, that guy only poured water on the notes.
But I mean, how close...
You pour water on some dude's notes, and they're going to fucking throw a water bottle at you, and you might hit them, and it might turn into some physical altercation.
You can't pour water on someone's fucking notes because you don't like what they're saying.
That's...
Complete douchebag move.
Unless the guy's notes are all a bunch of lies about you or something and you're mad.
But if it's about Paris Hilton, you fucking weirdo.
That's what you're picking your battles right there?
tom segura
So this was not like a protest to go to this show.
This was actually a group that went to a show.
joe rogan
Yes.
tom segura
And we're like, we don't like this.
unidentified
Yes.
christina pazsitzky
Well, he says the F word.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And then these grown-ups can't handle hearing fun.
unidentified
What kind of show?
tom segura
Is he on Broadway or some shit?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's in New York.
I don't know.
It's in New York.
tom segura
That's so nuts, man.
christina pazsitzky
Poor guy.
joe rogan
It's fascinating.
tom segura
I don't want to hear the F word.
joe rogan
The way he handled it was really interesting too.
He was much more offended than I think a comedian would be in the same situation.
It's like they came to his show and they fucked up his whole thing.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, we're just used to being fucked with.
It's just par for the course.
Friday Late Show, let's do it.
joe rogan
Friday Late Show is always the most brutal, right?
Everyone's hammered.
Everyone's tired.
unidentified
Fuck.
tom segura
Yeah, and you don't go when they're leaving.
You don't go like, does anyone want to stay and discuss this?
unidentified
You're just like, get the fuck out of here, you piece of shit.
christina pazsitzky
I'm not even selling merch.
joe rogan
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
tom segura
Go fuck yourself.
joe rogan
Those are brutal shows.
How about the late show, Saturday, when you have to do three?
christina pazsitzky
That's a nightmare.
joe rogan
I gave up on those the moment I could.
I remember I'd get those calls.
No third show on Saturday?
No, no third show.
Last time you were here, we did a third show on Saturday.
It was pretty successful.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
For you.
Not for my fucking soul.
Not for my soul.
christina pazsitzky
Quick comedy after that.
joe rogan
How many people are asleep at those shows?
Like, literally asleep.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
joe rogan
Like, sitting there drunk to the point of just complete incoherence.
tom segura
You're doing that third show.
joe rogan
Oh, it was a brutal.
tom segura
You kind of feel like...
If this were a 15 minute show, this wouldn't be that bad.
They're still into it.
christina pazsitzky
That's about the attention.
tom segura
The headline spot's brutal.
The road starts to turn.
Sometimes you'll see your feature have a great set.
And then you get up there and you're like 10-15 minutes in and you're like, this shit's starting to change.
unidentified
There's a wall that you hit at like 20 and you can just see their face glaze.
joe rogan
Yeah, you should almost cut it short.
tom segura
That wall matches the amount of shots that have been poured in that room.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tom segura
You start to feel like, oh, shit.
joe rogan
Midnight show, you should cut short.
I would say do like a 45-minute set or a 40-minute set at the most.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you've got to do a midnight show.
But those fucking shows, the good thing about it, like Ari Shaffir and I were talking about...
The opening spot.
One of the things that makes you really powerful is doing an opening spot where you have to go on first.
The crowd's not warmed up at all.
Doing that makes you really fucking focus and lock in quickly.
You can't just coast on the energy that's already been on stage before you.
When people do well and they go on before you, you can just ride their energy.
Just go up there and coast.
But to open up, it really strengthens your act.
I remember I watched you do it a bunch of times when we went on the road, and I could see you setting up right away.
You want to make sure that you come out of the gate strong, confident, hit them with some good shit right away.
Try to, yeah.
It's a tricky little first moment.
The first moment they see you up there.
I'm like, hmm, how's this going to go?
tom segura
It's so important, though, to try to do it right, right away.
You get them on board immediately, and then you get your own wave.
joe rogan
It's super strong for your act.
tom segura
Totally.
joe rogan
You really learn how to develop weapons, like an opening weapon.
I just know this one's going to fucking kick them right in the dick.
christina pazsitzky
That's why I love black audiences.
I did Cleveland and there's so many black people and I love them.
They're my favorite because if they smell your fear, you're fucked.
If they even sense for a minute that you hesitate or that you're afraid of them, the whole energy shifts.
But if they like you and they see that you don't give a fuck about what they think of you, you're good.
joe rogan
Yeah, I did a lot of black clubs in Boston.
Did a lot of shit in Mattapan.
And there was a dude who booked these really good clubs.
They were really good clubs, but it was all black crowds.
And it paid better than the white shows.
It was great.
It was fascinating, man, watching.
One guy couldn't do his room because he had a strict censorship policy.
Very strict.
He would give the comics a speech before the show.
It was hilarious.
My friend John worked there.
He goes, no motherfuckers.
No motherfuckers.
He goes, no bitch, okay?
That's a lady.
And he goes, you don't say, oh, that bitch had a big ass.
You say, that woman had a wide behind.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
joe rogan
He actually said that.
You don't say, that girl had a big ass.
She had a wide behind.
And they made people do really clean, censored comedy.
But it was one of the best rooms.
It was one of the rooms where I wish that I did clean comedy.
Because you could fucking crush that room.
They laughed hard.
It was one of the first times I ever saw Reggie McFadden, too.
Reggie McFadden, who's one of those guys that I never understood why Reggie McFadden never became fucking huge.
The Reggie McFadden that I knew from like 1990-ish, 1991, I was convinced that that kid was going to be like one of the top stand-up comedians in the country.
And one of the places I saw him was at the Champagne Comedy Club.
No motherfuckers.
No motherfuckers.
You can't say bitch.
That's a lady.
unidentified
That's a lady.
joe rogan
That bitch had a big ass.
christina pazsitzky
She had a wide behind.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to say that.
He had very strict rules.
christina pazsitzky
God, thank God you don't have to be a clean comic these days, huh?
It's brutal.
That shit's over.
joe rogan
Well, you know, what people don't understand is that everybody sort of got the idea that clean comedy was smart comedy because of television.
You know, the only reason why you had to have things clean on television is because you didn't want to offend the advertisers.
It's really simple.
So everybody basically became a bitch to the advertisers.
The advertisers don't want you talking about overthrowing the government.
That's why they censored Hicks' shit when Hicks was on CBS. You can't show tits and boobs and smoking weed.
You can't show smoking weed.
You can't show a lot of things.
Advertisers, they want to be able to sell to the most amount of people possible.
There's no artistic integrity or the right to opinion.
All that stuff's out the window when you're selling shit.
christina pazsitzky
Well, that's interesting.
That kind of explains why TV sets are still sort of middle of the road.
joe rogan
Sure.
christina pazsitzky
In terms of late night sets.
joe rogan
They censor the shit out of your set.
There's very few really edgy topics you could get away with.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You're doing a Letterman set.
That's not what it's for.
It is what it is.
But I don't think it's a more clever way of doing comedy.
I've always found that to put shackles on yourself as a writing exercise, I absolutely agree with.
I like to do that.
That's one of the things I like about Twitter, is the 140-character limit.
I think it actually helps my writing, like little zingers, little quick lines.
But I think to try to put...
It's hard to figure out how to do comedy and do it the most effective way with the least amount of extra words.
You ever watch a guy talk on stage and you go, get to the fucking point.
The jokes are really funny, but the setup is too clunky.
There's too much words there.
But then you watch a guy like Joey Diaz and one of the art forms that is Joey is Joey uses the least amount of words possible for the most impact.
He's brilliant at that.
tom segura
That's a great formula.
The thing that I see people, like younger comics, I think screw up with the most is not saying, they don't have a clear view of what their point is.
In other words, they have their joke, but if you make the setup and the point that you're making up front clear, your joke will be more effective about it.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
But they talk around their point.
christina pazsitzky
The premise.
tom segura
Yeah, the premise is like, you're like, I think you're saying this.
And they have a joke, and they're like, I wonder why that joke doesn't go over that.
joe rogan
A big part of it is listening to your recordings.
christina pazsitzky
I should do that, man.
joe rogan
It's fucking huge.
christina pazsitzky
I hate hearing my own voice so much.
joe rogan
Everybody does.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you gotta do it.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
Do you have an iPhone?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, do you have that voice notes thing?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Do you record your sets?
christina pazsitzky
I've done it once or twice.
joe rogan
It's fucking amazing.
christina pazsitzky
I know.
joe rogan
I have to set it back and listen to it.
I do all the time.
I listen to it all the time.
And it helps me a lot because if I take like a week off, I'll just listen to like four or five sets in a row and it's like I'm right back in groove.
christina pazsitzky
Isn't that crazy that a week off is like a month off?
joe rogan
I don't like taking a week off.
I like to do at least one set a week if I'm in the warm-up stages.
But because I'm doing this thing in Atlanta, I did Fort Lauderdale for a week, and then I was here for a week, and then before that we were in Louisville for a week.
So it was like...
You get in comedy shape.
You get used to banging it out.
I don't like taking a week off.
I've taken more than a month off before.
Yeah, it's weird.
tom segura
The most I've ever taken off in 10 years is about just under a month.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People don't understand.
There's a certain amount of conditioning that's necessary to be a comedian.
It's like a certain amount of getting used to it and doing it all the time.
It's almost like radiation.
You've got to fucking build up a tolerance for it or something.
christina pazsitzky
The poison.
joe rogan
Which is a terrible analogy, because you can't build up a tolerance for radiation.
tom segura
But it is very momentum-based.
It's venom.
You carry that momentum.
If you're doing it a lot, and you go tape your thing, it's like, you've been doing it.
If you take weeks off, and you go try to do something, you're like, I was fucking off.
joe rogan
Well, when we worked together...
We did that Maxim Comedy thing in Phoenix the first time we worked together.
And me and Charlie Murphy and John Heffron had been doing these dates all over the country.
We did like 22 shows in a row.
So we were just on fire.
And so what a great feeling that is when you're doing that many sets and you just go out there and fucking level it.
tom segura
You have it so tweaked.
You have it so, like, you know exactly your beats and you figure it out that you can add something here and change something here.
joe rogan
That was a fun time.
And that's where I realized what size balls Charlie Murphy has.
Charlie Murphy has gigantic balls.
tom segura
Literally?
Like big balls.
brian redban
We always put them out and put them on our foreheads.
joe rogan
Take pictures, holds a hostage.
No, he was like headlining, dude.
He'd only been doing comedy for like two years.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
He was headlining and doing an hour, and he'd only been doing comedy for two years.
He has massive balls, that guy.
He just basically took an opportunity.
He got on the Chappelle show.
He was basically an actor before that.
Took that opportunity, started doing these little things where he would host things, and then people started giving him money to headline, and next thing you know, he's a fucking professional comedian, and now he's headlining all over the world.
It's crazy.
That's balls.
I mean, he was in his 40s when that all happened.
Wow.
tom segura
That's wild.
christina pazsitzky
Could you imagine starting in your 40s?
joe rogan
I couldn't imagine.
christina pazsitzky
That seems so bananas to me.
joe rogan
I fucking loved hanging out with him, though.
He was a great guy.
Loved hanging out with him on the road.
Remember how much fun Charlie was?
Charlie Murphy and Rich?
tom segura
I went to dinner with them one of those nights.
unidentified
Oh yeah?
tom segura
They took me to dinner.
Couldn't have been nicer.
He had me pissing my pants.
Just the stories.
Talking about fucking hanging out with Mike Tyson.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
That story that he told on the podcast about the lion.
Did you ever hear that story he told?
Didn't someone animate that shit?
I feel like somebody animated the story.
Maybe I'm getting confused.
tom segura
A story about somebody disrespected him in front of his dad.
He got so enraged.
The way he told the story, you weren't like, wow, that's some serious shit.
I was just fucking crying, laughing about how upset he got.
There's a reason those true Hollywood stories are so funny.
His way of telling a story is just, you know what I mean?
His diction and the cadence and the way he paints a picture.
That dude's just naturally funny.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's the Joe Rogan Experience, Mike Tyson, YouTube.
He was on our podcast when we talked about it, dude.
If you go to the Joe Road Experience, Mike Tyson, he talks about Mike.
He visited Mike Tyson over his house and somebody animated it.
brian redban
Oh, that's cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
He has great diction.
tom segura
Yeah, he does.
I see Mike come around.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
tom segura
Yeah, Mike.
brian redban
It was really weird because we didn't know him at all.
And then next thing you know, a month, every single day, we were hanging out with him.
joe rogan
Couldn't have been better.
brian redban
Couldn't have been a different city.
That was exhausting.
joe rogan
It was great.
tom segura
That's awesome.
Yeah.
brian redban
It was the most confusing time ever, though.
joe rogan
We didn't know where we were.
We would wake up.
We didn't know where we were.
You guys don't see us?
tom segura
Tour buses and shit?
joe rogan
No.
brian redban
Not really.
joe rogan
We were supposed to have a tour bus, but the tour bus ripped us off.
tom segura
Oh, that's right.
brian redban
They scammed you.
joe rogan
Yeah, they scammed us.
They had an address, and we drove to where the address was, and it was literally an abandoned lot.
They scammed Sussman.
Yeah, see, this is it, buddy.
This is the animation where he's talking about Mike Tyson.
brian redban
Oh, that's weird.
I've not seen that.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you can find that, folks, if you're interested in it, I'll tweet it later tonight.
tom segura
Oh, and I told you to ask him.
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, you texted me.
tom segura
I was like, you've got to ask him about Johnny Gill.
He's hanging out with Johnny Gill.
And Johnny Gill's like, I could fuck up Oscar De La Hoya.
unidentified
He's like, I'm going to tell Oscar that shit.
joe rogan
That's right.
Well, Charlie was an old school karate guy.
Charlie Murphy was an old school karate guy.
He was doing karate from the time he was a young kid.
So me and him had a lot of karate stories and martial arts stories.
He's a huge martial arts aficionado.
When he sees you, he'll go, Oh, really?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
He knows, everybody that knows something about fighting, you know, it's funny, like, when somebody who says, like, I could whoop that guy's ass, and you're talking about, like, a professional fighter?
joe rogan
Oh, it's so, it's a horrible thing to watch, but I've heard it, I've heard it come out of many a guy's mouth.
tom segura
Many a dumb guy's mouth.
joe rogan
They talk about, bro, all I have to do is hit him once.
Let me tell you something.
Uriah Faber, he fights at 135 pounds.
And if you're like some regular dude and you're 6'3 and you weigh 230 pounds, that little dude's going to fuck you up.
He's going to fuck you up.
He's going to be doing things to you that you don't even know what he's doing before he's doing them.
And it'll be too late.
And if he gets a hold of your neck, you're going to sleep.
It doesn't matter if you weigh 300 pounds.
If Uriah Faber can get a real guillotine around your neck, night, night, night, night, you go sleep.
It's not that hard to cut off the blood to the brain.
You know, you just pinch those arteries together, and if you have a good grip, and Uriah does, if he can hang on and keep that guy from prying him off for just 15 seconds, I bet he can do that.
I bet he puts that guy to sleep.
You know, there's a lot of dudes out there that are professional fighters, and I bet they get disrespected occasionally, occasionally by dummies.
But for the most part, I think people are pretty cool about it.
tom segura
Well, the thing was, the whole reason we were talking about that story about Johnny Gill and Oscar De La Hoya was because people would say it about Oscar more because he had the pretty boy image.
unidentified
It's like, yeah, that pretty boy could fuck you up, dude.
joe rogan
Manny Pacquiao.
Man, I met Manny Pacquiao.
He's like this tiny guy.
He's like real super sweet and friendly.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Manny Pacquiao will fuck you up, man.
Totally, you know?
tom segura
And it would happen faster than you could get your hands up.
Like, it would be over before you positioned yourself for your first part.
joe rogan
Margarito.
He broke both his eye sockets.
tom segura
So fast, so strong.
christina pazsitzky
How do you heal that?
joe rogan
You'd go to surgery.
He had an artificial implant in one of his lenses.
One of his lenses apparently got damaged in the fight too.
His eye completely swole up.
One of them was just really fucked up.
And apparently just Manny Pacquiao just tuned his face up.
And what's really crazy is like earlier in the fight, like he was saying to his coroner, man, he's got no power.
He's got no power.
I don't know if Manny baited him in.
Maybe Manny played Pity Pat with his face a little bit and then started landing some bombs on him.
But you're just dealing with a guy.
There's that level, that Manny Pacquiao level, Floyd Mayweather level.
They're masters.
Juan Manuel Marquez.
tom segura
Super elite.
joe rogan
Masters of boxing.
tom segura
And it's so fun to watch.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
It's so fun to watch.
I've been going to this boxing gym, and there's this junior Olympian who does his sparring there.
joe rogan
Really?
tom segura
And then I'm sitting there after, like, basically a class, and the sparring is going on, and they're rotating people in.
And they send in this kid who's really fucking moving.
He's landing stuff.
He's getting hit, too.
But I'm like, this kid's good.
And they're like, yeah, he's been doing it for eight years.
And I was like, well, how old is he?
And, like, he just turned 15. And I was like, that kid can fucking kill me.
unidentified
Holy shit.
tom segura
Sophomore in high school could kill me.
He's just watching him move.
joe rogan
They're fearless when they're that young.
There was a kid that used to come to our jiu-jitsu school and his dad used to bring him in when he was in high school.
He was being partially homeschooled, partially tutored by different people, but his dad was real attentive.
His dad would bring him into high school and this kid was an assassin.
He was an assassin.
He was 15 years old.
And I was a grown man, and I outweighed him by like 50 pounds.
And when we would go at it, I'd have to watch my fucking P's and Q's.
Because that kid was looking to put me to sleep.
We would go to war.
tom segura
Isn't that amazing?
joe rogan
I would have to wrestle a little rascal before I could get a grip on him.
tom segura
Yeah, it's amazing.
joe rogan
Scary!
15-year-olds, man, they go, no...
And that's what he was into.
He was into jiu-jitsu.
I mean, he's amazing at it now.
I mean, he was into jujitsu.
He was into choking the shit out of people.
That's what he was concentrating all his time on.
When you're a kid, too, and you find one thing that you're really fucking good at, and that feeling of being really good at something is so fucking nice for kids.
tom segura
Especially, I don't know if it goes both ways, but especially when you're a 15-year-old boy, and you're looking for that direction and approval, and you find an activity that you get told you're good at, and you focus on that.
joe rogan
Also, when you do something and it's hard to do, and then you do it, you go, oh, I did that.
I went through something, I had doubts, it was hard to do, but I did it.
Now I can probably do something else.
It gives you this feeling that you can just attempt things and accomplish things.
I mean, occasionally I think about what it would be like to own a restaurant.
Not that I want to own a restaurant.
I absolutely don't.
And I watch one of these TV shows on restaurants, like Anthony Bourdain's show or something like that, when you're dealing with these guys who are working 16 hours a day, and the preparation of food, and the going to the market, and gathering up all the ingredients, and creating the menus, and it is their life.
And you stop and you think about it, like, could you do that?
Do you think the amount of fucking...
I'm absolutely positive I could do it if I was so obsessed.
If I was obsessed in that way to do it.
But everybody's got their own little whatever the fuck it is.
Hopefully.
I don't know if everybody does.
christina pazsitzky
I hear some people don't.
You have to put so much time and energy into stand-up, into being a comedian.
But that's because we love it.
You're always thinking about things and material and this and that.
But with food, no.
joe rogan
Do you ever do things, like, on purpose, hoping that it'll be funny?
Like, go places, like, okay, this, I'll probably get some material out of this.
tom segura
Yeah, oh yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, totally, right?
Yeah.
tom segura
Well, the longer you do it, too, the more you feel like, you know, if I try this thing right now and it doesn't work out, like, it's okay.
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
I know how to get back on the horse from here.
So, like, you take more risk, I think, the longer you've been doing it, right?
Like, I feel like...
If I bring up some shit right now and this fucking fails horribly because I don't know what jokes I'm going to say.
Right.
I'm going to see what happens.
I could still recover from this show and just be like, oh, that was some weird shit.
It didn't work out.
unidentified
It's fine.
Yeah.
tom segura
And then sometimes you get a good joke out of it, though.
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
Just by trying it.
But I wouldn't have tried that five years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, sometimes I'll go down dark roads on stage just to see where my fucking head pulls me out.
Like, if maybe some way there's a way that I can rescue myself.
You know, but in life, I definitely have done a bunch of things.
Like, when I moved to Colorado, one of the things I was thinking, I was like, damn, I'm going to get a lot of material out of this.
You know, that was 100%.
And I did, but...
unidentified
You did?
joe rogan
The wrong way, but, you know, it's still...
It was, you know, like an exercise in doing something to...
So, like, I'm putting my new special out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're filming it next Friday, so I'm thinking, man, I'm going to have to do some fucking serious writing over the next couple months.
brian redban
We're filming it tomorrow, this Friday.
joe rogan
Friday, yeah, this Friday.
brian redban
Oh, I thought you said next Friday.
joe rogan
Well, yeah, the one that's coming up next.
tom segura
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Next Friday?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
This Friday.
unidentified
Should I say this Friday?
brian redban
I thought next Friday was the...
joe rogan
Yeah, no, you're right, really.
I shouldn't say next Friday, but I mean...
brian redban
We're leaving in the morning.
joe rogan
Yeah, tomorrow.
We leave tomorrow morning.
What?
tom segura
That's really exciting, man.
That's really exciting.
joe rogan
I'm fired up.
tom segura
Tabernacle, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm fired up, too, to do it in Atlanta, because I haven't been in Atlanta in forever.
unidentified
I love Atlanta.
joe rogan
It's been a long time.
Yeah, it's perfect, because it's all new shit.
All the stuff that I did before, it's from my talking monkeys in space.
So this is a completely new hour and a half, so I'm fucking fired up.
tom segura
That's rad, man.
joe rogan
I'm so excited.
Atlanta's got great fucking food, too.
brian redban
I want to take a bite out of a peach while we're down there.
joe rogan
What are you talking about, girls?
brian redban
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at them.
Sexy, sultry, cuddly.
tom segura
A lot of peaches down there.
joe rogan
What was it like working with Brian at Death Squad?
unidentified
This man-child before me.
christina pazsitzky
Brian, Brian, what is going on in your head?
I always think about that.
brian redban
What is going on in my head?
joe rogan
It's a different kind of a dude.
brian redban
It's a numbers game.
joe rogan
He's a different kind of dude.
You gotta accept that there's this too.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
I love him.
And also, there's Brian.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Yeah, I miss you guys.
You're one of the very few podcasts that I still listen to, and I even still, I haven't listened to every single one.
Are you guys still enjoying doing the podcast?
Do you like it now, like doing it from home, or are you realizing, oh shit, it's a lot of work?
unidentified
Dude, it's better.
It is both.
brian redban
It's both.
joe rogan
Do you edit it yourself?
tom segura
Yeah, I mean, look, for somebody who's not into having or knowing what they're doing, it was a task.
It was harder than I thought just to figure it out, but I figured it out after...
The first one we put up was a disaster.
brian redban
Disaster.
tom segura
And then...
But then, you know, by the next one...
brian redban
I was so happy, by the way.
I was just fucking...
Yeah, I told you so.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, terrible.
brian redban
Motherfucker.
tom segura
I'm just kidding.
No, there were people, there was plenty of those tweets.
Shouldn't have left, bro.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, they think they were not friends or something.
tom segura
Yeah, but people think that it was like, well, we don't like each other.
brian redban
Your last episode of Death Squad was kind of funny because I kind of jokingly was acting like really, like, bitchy.
tom segura
Do you know what people also thought was serious?
unidentified
What?
tom segura
That when you were like, you know, maybe this will end up on, like, the show, like, Death Squad might end up on TV. And I was like, hold on, we don't want to leave yet.
brian redban
That was so funny.
tom segura
I was joking.
They were like, you showed your true colors when you said you wanted to stay.
brian redban
Yeah, I was like, by the way, we're in talks right now with HBO. Just so you know, we had our second meeting today.
And he goes, wait, wait, we're just kidding.
No, we want to stay here.
unidentified
But they thought we were serious when I said we want to stay now.
tom segura
And they were like, you showed what kind of person you are when you said you wanted to stay now.
brian redban
Yeah, you did show your true colors, Tom.
tom segura
No, but I figured it out, dude.
I figured out the audio, I should say.
I haven't figured out the video.
unidentified
The video's rough.
tom segura
The audio, we figured out, and it is actually...
We can do when we...
It's still work, but we can do two a week.
We've tried to do, as often as we can, two a week.
Yeah, I mean, we do it all.
We have a little room that has the board and mics and cameras that aren't hooked up yet.
unidentified
That's good.
brian redban
You guys are working.
You're like a team, too.
tom segura
We are.
unidentified
We're a little duo.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, and it's good because it works for our schedules.
If we're both home for like 48 hours, we can crank out a couple.
tom segura
It's easier to walk to our second room than to try to schedule something.
So that part was true.
brian redban
Yeah.
tom segura
It works out better.
brian redban
Your podcast is one of the very few that actually is a husband and wife that's actually listenable.
That formula never really works.
It works for me.
There's a couple here and there that kind of are okay.
But for the most part, when I hear husband and wife, I just want to fucking shoot myself in the balls.
joe rogan
It is true.
unidentified
That's a good point.
christina pazsitzky
That's nice of you.
unidentified
Well, why is that?
christina pazsitzky
Why is that?
brian redban
Because you're very comfortable people.
You're very fun.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, no, what's annoying about...
Other people.
brian redban
What bothers you?
Because it's like listening to a couple.
Where you guys, you're a couple, but you don't fucking PDA ourselves.
joe rogan
Also, you're cool.
You're both cool.
You actually are really good friends.
There's a lot of people that the only reason why they're together is this weird male-female sort of thing going on where they have nothing in common, nothing to talk about.
The conversations are all stunted.
christina pazsitzky
You guys are clearly obviously like, I wish I had No, but I think about that a lot when, not to sound corny, but if he and I go to dinner and there's that table next to you that's completely silent and they're just eating and you're like, how do you do that?
Why do you marry somebody you can't fucking talk to?
Because this all goes.
The looks and your body turns to dog shit and all you have at the end of the day is a mind with another mind, right?
You may as well pick someone that you like talking to.
brian redban
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta pick someone.
tom segura
That always blew me away when a lot of guy friends I have would date for a long time and or marry somebody that they didn't have intellectually stimulating conversation with.
And you're like, how do you fucking talk to that adult all the time?
joe rogan
Well, they don't care.
That's where I'll get my pussy.
Okay, great.
I'll take care of the kids and now I'll go to work.
unidentified
Done.
There's a lot of people that just accept it.
joe rogan
I've had friends that were in Horrible relationships.
And then all of a sudden they'll come and tell you that they're thinking about proposing.
unidentified
Yeah!
christina pazsitzky
Because that'll fix it, right?
brian redban
Just buy a pet instead.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
unidentified
You're right.
joe rogan
Yeah, especially the ones that are fucking at each other's throats.
And he's like, you know, man, I'm just thinking that maybe if we just went on a different level of commitment, maybe this wouldn't be...
What are you talking about?
She's a crazy bitch and you're crazy for being with her.
tom segura
You're a crazy asshole.
christina pazsitzky
Or they have kids.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And there's a lot of what, the reason why people do that, people like to get absorbed in relationships to distract them from their shitbag lives.
christina pazsitzky
Absolutely.
joe rogan
They love it.
They love doing it.
unidentified
It's fun.
tom segura
Or distract them from their real issues.
brian redban
Right?
tom segura
You don't have to address the real issues.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you're overeating or you're over smoking or you're over this or you're over that or you're over gambling or you're over masturbating, whatever the fuck it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and just fucking, you'll be in the middle of it and Texting.
Where the fuck are you?
How come you're not texting me back?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
tom segura
Our show is also, you know, the thing is, we have a profound...
I mean, you know this better than anybody, Brian, that it's like a profoundly silly show.
brian redban
Yeah, it's super silly.
tom segura
It's so silly.
And we have a similar sensibility.
So, like, it probably wouldn't work if, like, the shit that made me laugh didn't make her laugh or vice versa.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
tom segura
We were able to...
brian redban
One of my favorite episodes that you guys did lately, sorry, I just totally interrupted you, was your dad, where he wiped a booger on an elevator.
Oh, Jesus!
christina pazsitzky
That was so fun.
San Diego, yeah.
joe rogan
That's so nasty.
tom segura
Top dog.
joe rogan
That's what happens when a guy doesn't give a fuck about pussy anymore.
unidentified
Ha ha ha!
tom segura
That's true.
christina pazsitzky
Well, that is accurate.
unidentified
You know what the thing is?
tom segura
He also, it's been one of those, you know, like dads have their dad bits.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
One of his bits is boogers?
tom segura
No, it's like talking about it.
unidentified
Like, it's one of his bits.
tom segura
For as long as I can remember, it's been like, if you get an elevator with him, he will say that.
Not do that.
He'll be like, you know what I like to do?
I like to put a booger on the lobby button.
And then I know everybody's touching it.
And you go, that's gross, man.
But he doesn't do it.
We got in the elevator, and the first time in my whole life, he goes, hey, watch this.
He goes up, he digs one out, and I was like, what the fuck?
And I looked at him like that, and he was like, oh, sorry, buddy.
And he knocks it off.
christina pazsitzky
And it was a scraggler, too.
joe rogan
It was a big...
brian redban
And on their podcast he has audio of him telling their mom what the dad did and the mom just like, that's like normal for her.
unidentified
It's like she's always like, she seems like such a nice, she's so sweet.
christina pazsitzky
She's so done.
tom segura
She has zero tolerance.
Like zero for like a lack of class.
And anything gross.
Like, gross shit does not make her laugh.
So, I like to tell her gross shit to hear her disdain.
Because she gets so upset about it.
Like, she's like, ah!
And she can't even bear to hear it.
And it just brings me to tears.
The whole show is me just, like, crying, laughing.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
I love your family so much.
I like your family a lot.
brian redban
You like his family better than yours.
christina pazsitzky
More than I like mine, yeah.
Mine's just too much drama.
And his is, like, they're loving.
joe rogan
That's great.
christina pazsitzky
Like, his sister will yell from the room, like, Mom!
joe rogan
I want cereal!
unidentified
And then the mommy's like, okay, darling, and brings her cereal.
christina pazsitzky
That would never happen in my house growing up.
tom segura
It wouldn't happen in mine either, by the way.
We're not fucking doing that at all.
But we've been talking a lot lately about our neighbor.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, man.
Yeah, maybe you can help us.
joe rogan
Okay.
No roosters?
tom segura
No roosters.
christina pazsitzky
This is a different neighborhood.
tom segura
Different neighborhoods.
So what happened was, we rented a place that there's our place, which is a two-bedroom, and then the owner owns the unit next to it, but doesn't live there.
And, like, lives in LA in a different part of town.
joe rogan
Okay.
tom segura
And goes, well, yeah, that's my unit for, like, once a year I have family come in for, like, a week.
And sometimes, like, maybe once a year I'll stay there if I'm doing business on this side of town.
unidentified
Right.
tom segura
And crash somewhere.
joe rogan
Some shit like that.
Okay.
tom segura
And so that was, I mean, it wasn't, like, part of the deal, but she was just like, that's just what it is.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Right.
tom segura
So we're like, all right.
So it was kind of nice because you have no neighbor.
We didn't even know what it's like to have that neighbor.
And then, like, in the fall, one day I'm in our second room, which has a connection, like a vent, and I feel heat coming in, and I'm like, ah, shit, that's from the other unit.
And I go, that's weird that there's heat coming from the unit next door, right?
Because it's blowing into our unit.
So I go and I knock, and then it's this lady that's like, I'm like, oh, who are you?
And she's like, oh, I just moved in here.
And I was like, you moved in?
She's like, yeah.
I go, like, permanently?
She's like, nah, I'm just gonna be, like, looking for a place.
But, you know, I'm staying here because I'm friends with the owners.
And I was like, oh, okay.
I was like, how long do you think you're gonna stay?
She's like, probably for a while.
I was like...
unidentified
Great.
tom segura
Like, how long?
She was like, just probably for a long time.
I was like...
unidentified
Fuck, man.
christina pazsitzky
An indefinite amount.
tom segura
Yeah.
And then she asked if she could park in our driveway and all that shit.
christina pazsitzky
And if she could use our internet connection.
unidentified
Whoa.
christina pazsitzky
And we're like, nah, I don't think so.
tom segura
This was on the first meeting.
joe rogan
Like, whoa.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, a little much.
joe rogan
Can I use your internet connection?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
She was like, do you think I can get your password and I can throw you like a few bucks?
christina pazsitzky
Nah.
joe rogan
Whoa.
tom segura
That's not going to work.
joe rogan
What did she say?
tom segura
And she was like, okay.
And I was like, yes, that's not going to work.
She was like, do you think I could park in the driveway behind your car and I'll leave my phone number on a card?
Are you fucking serious?
christina pazsitzky
So she can block us with her shitty car.
joe rogan
She sounds like a hippie.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
That sounds like, that's exactly the type of mentality that I had to deal with a lot in Boulder.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
A lot of always need this, always need that.
Can I get that from you, man?
tom segura
I've been broke as shit.
I've never had the balls to be like, you think I could tap into your internet, man?
joe rogan
Yeah, there's some shameless hippies.
tom segura
Yeah.
No, I didn't.
You can't do that.
joe rogan
If you can help me, man.
Who knows what the fuck they're doing.
Downloading some fucking terrorist handbook that gets on your IP. When the fucking police come and break down your door and you're going to prove that this asshole was the one that was downloading this shit.
tom segura
Absolutely.
joe rogan
What's scary is that you have to really worry about that, too.
tom segura
We start to hear her.
We're hearing her.
christina pazsitzky
God damn it.
Just in general.
First, it's the smelling her fucking dirty food.
unidentified
You smell her shitty food and you're like, what is she fucking...
christina pazsitzky
I don't know, onion-y something in the morning.
And I don't even like to eat in the morning.
Popcorn.
Yeah, I smell like beefy, onion-y shit.
joe rogan
It smells great.
unidentified
That sounds inspirational.
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
And then the capper is in the middle of the night, like at two in the morning.
tom segura
Later.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, later.
tom segura
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
You hear...
unidentified
Just in groups of threes.
Yeah.
joe rogan
When she's getting nailed?
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
unidentified
Nice.
tom segura
It's not even like a late night fucking.
It's like a four in the morning fucking.
Yeah.
brian redban
Getting railed.
joe rogan
Sounds like she knows a guy like me.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
Have you been addicted to listening to it?
tom segura
Are you a four in the morning guy?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Tom's being silly.
When I was 20, I was.
tom segura
Whenever you can get in.
joe rogan
It's four in the morning.
She answers her phone.
brian redban
Has Christina been gone once and you started hearing her have sex and you started masturbating with your ear to the wall?
tom segura
No.
brian redban
Have you ever done it before?
tom segura
I've done that in hotels.
But when you're home and you have that much resentment built up, I don't think of it as exciting.
christina pazsitzky
You know this dumb bitch.
tom segura
I'm like, you can stop fucking filming.
unidentified
Too bad you don't have a sample of that.
christina pazsitzky
We've been dying, yeah.
tom segura
We try to give it back to you.
joe rogan
Have you ever dated a girl that was so loud you wanted her to shut the fuck up?
You're like, you're distracting the shit out of me.
unidentified
You ever had that?
brian redban
Yeah.
tom segura
I've had it loud, but I don't think about, like, so distracting.
christina pazsitzky
I love hearing this stuff.
joe rogan
You do you?
christina pazsitzky
Well, yeah, because I never asked him that question, so...
joe rogan
Yeah, well...
christina pazsitzky
I want to hear.
joe rogan
There was many, many years in the past.
I was probably in my early 20s.
There was this girl that I dated for a very short period of time who would, you know, she would come to visit me, like, if I was on the road doing stand-up.
And, you know, and back then it was, like, always the shittiest, cheapest motels, the fucking nastiest beds.
Think about some of the places that you stayed when you were working the road.
christina pazsitzky
Even how we're alive...
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Oh, fuck!
Oh, fuck!
It would...
It would be so ridiculous and so over the top.
unidentified
People would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
joe rogan
And it was always.
She was ready to ramp it up the moment you stuck it in.
The moment you stuck it in.
christina pazsitzky
So she didn't even build to it.
It was like the overkill.
joe rogan
She was Latin.
unidentified
Crazy Latin, bitch.
christina pazsitzky
There you go.
joe rogan
Crazy Latin, bitch.
She would go off like a bottle rocket.
unidentified
The moment you stick it in, she just started screaming, oh, fuck yeah!
joe rogan
It was like, hey, hey, hey!
christina pazsitzky
So theatrical, yeah.
Did you believe it?
Did you think it was that?
joe rogan
I was fucking 22 years old or whatever the hell I was.
Yeah, you definitely might be.
22. She was the worst one in all of my history.
I was like, please, you gotta stop.
I was trying to be polite.
There's other people that are staying here.
This is late at night.
This is a small hotel.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, what's fascinating is that I read recently that one of the things they say about a woman who's moaning and screaming really loudly during sex is that it's not exactly just pleasure, and that actually what she's doing is she's alerting other men that may be better suitors to come in and fuck her.
unidentified
Wow, that's interesting.
christina pazsitzky
I like to stay quiet like a cadaver.
joe rogan
It's a little whimpering that no one's going to hear outside this house.
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
I'm sorry, Mommy.
joe rogan
So that's an interesting little...
tom segura
That's really interesting.
christina pazsitzky
That is interesting.
joe rogan
A little possibility.
tom segura
Makes you really think about the screamers now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it makes sense, you know.
I mean, it totally makes sense.
I guess if you're more secure in the relationship as well, you also have calmed down.
You probably, the sex isn't quite as crazy because you're doing it all the time.
You're used to each other.
You can still have good sex for a long period of time, but you've got to have some marijuana or some wine.
unidentified
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Or distance.
It helps to be apart for like a week.
And then you're like, hey, remember me?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's great.
I love that.
brian redban
Like hang out with some Puerto Ricans for a week.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, I love those Puerto Ricans.
Fort Lauderdale.
A lot of Puerto Rican guys.
A lot of gold chains.
joe rogan
Crazy screaming like that.
I, I, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
unidentified
Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That's her.
joe rogan
You never know if it's real.
And they're taking a big chance at going that hard.
christina pazsitzky
It's theatrical.
It's a little much.
It's a little over the top.
It's a little...
What about that kind of stuff, like the filthy talk?
Like, does that put you off?
Have you ever had someone say shit that was too crazy?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, a girl told me, fuck her cunt.
And I was like, really?
Is it a cunt?
She's like, well, what is it?
tom segura
It's that slit, that gash.
joe rogan
This girl was cunt.
unidentified
Stab that gash.
joe rogan
She was completely crazy, though.
This is where it's good to have good friends, because she came to a comedy club to see me, and also my friends came, and my friends were with, you know, like, I brought her over to them, and she gave my friend her number.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
And then she goes to the bathroom.
My friend calls me.
Oh man, that girl just gave me her fucking phone number.
I'm like, wow, you crazy hooker.
She was so crazy.
She was willing to take one of my friends and just give him and hope that she could sneak her way in and just start banging everybody that I know.
Like on the sneak tip.
There's some dirty girls out there.
There's some dirty girls.
christina pazsitzky
One dick at a time.
That's all I can do.
joe rogan
Well, I shouldn't have known.
I mean, this girl, I fucked her the first time I met her.
She was completely insane.
tom segura
What, the girl?
joe rogan
Yeah, this girl was incredible.
She was insane.
I was 21, and she was completely crazy.
But I didn't realize how crazy she was until she gave the phone number to my friend.
And then I realized she would just do that to anybody.
unidentified
She could, you know, you could just, all you have to do is start for that or no?
joe rogan
Oh, God, no, that was the end.
Yeah, I got to get rid of her.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
She was too creepy.
It's not just doing that.
It's like the idea that they're sneaking around behind your back.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
That's a weird sign.
That's why it's good to have good friends.
Because my friend came out to me right away and said, yo, dude, that fucking bitch, when you're in the bathroom, that bitch gave me your number.
And he shows it to me and he hands it to me.
I'm like, wow.
unidentified
Wow.
christina pazsitzky
Like he wouldn't tell you though, right?
joe rogan
Some guys wouldn't.
There's guys who wouldn't.
Yeah, I had a friend, we had a real problem with him because he was always banging all of our friends' ex-girlfriends.
He would immediately, this was back in Boston, it was immediately, as soon as he would break up, he would fucking immediately be just magically, hey, I was by her work the other day, she seems like she's taking the breakup well.
christina pazsitzky
Like a hyena, right?
joe rogan
What do you mean she seems like she's taking the breakup well?
What the fuck are you talking to her for?
Hey man, you know, it's an open game, man.
She's on the market now.
unidentified
Like what?
joe rogan
Like you're moving in and you're my friend?
christina pazsitzky
Moving in on the kill.
joe rogan
Shit happens This was a bad one, though.
This was my friend Jimmy and Kevin.
I don't want to say last names, so the fucking names have been changed to save the innocent.
They stopped being buddies because of that.
unidentified
Of course.
tom segura
You can't keep being buddies after that.
That's not cool.
joe rogan
You can't trust that dude.
That's creepy.
Can't trust it.
So, where are you guys at next?
What's next?
christina pazsitzky
I go to Chicago the 19th through 22nd.
unidentified
That's tomorrow.
christina pazsitzky
Schaumburg.
joe rogan
Oh, you're doing that improv?
That's a great improv.
I celebrated my 40th birthday there.
christina pazsitzky
Oh.
joe rogan
That's a great place.
christina pazsitzky
I'm looking forward to it.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a good club.
There's not really that much in Chicago.
It's hard to find, you know, there's the Zanies in Chicago.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then there's the Zanies in Vernon Hills, right?
Isn't there one else?
christina pazsitzky
I don't have done those yet.
tom segura
I heard a new one just opened.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
tom segura
Up.
joe rogan
Chicago used to have a great comedy scene.
tom segura
Yeah, that's Second City, right?
Home base for Second City.
Yeah, it's a good comedy town.
joe rogan
Yeah, there was a few guys.
Wasn't there one of the guys from the Rodney Dangerfield special?
He got on one of the Rodney specials, and he was a Chicago guy.
tom segura
Really?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm trying to remember.
No, he would say something and say, that's a tip from your Uncle Earl.
tom segura
Oh, really?
Like a little catchphrase?
christina pazsitzky
I like that catchphrase.
joe rogan
Forget his fucking name though.
God damn it.
I'm sure someone on Twitter will alert me to this.
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like they always do.
Twitter's the best for that.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
They told me that Matthew Conaghy was in that dragon movie.
I was right.
Even though I couldn't imagine him being in that dragon movie.
But I remember he was like a badass.
He had fucking tribal tattoos and shit.
He was a dragon jacker.
tom segura
Yeah.
I'm going to Vancouver this week.
unidentified
Matthew McConaughey.
joe rogan
Ooh, back to the mix.
Oh, that place is awesome.
tom segura
So this Thursday through Saturday.
joe rogan
Who are you working with?
Local guys up there?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
How often do you guys work on your own?
Together, rather.
tom segura
Together?
christina pazsitzky
Seldom.
joe rogan
Seldom?
It seems like you should be able to put something together because of your podcast.
tom segura
Well, we just did Ontario last month.
That was great.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, that was fun.
tom segura
We did the improv out there for a weekend.
Fantastic.
So yeah, we'll probably do some more.
Actually, we're doing the podcast live for the first time.
joe rogan
At a club?
tom segura
At the John Lovitz Club.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, okay.
May 23rd.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've done a couple live.
It's a weird dynamic.
You feel like you have to get to the jokes real quick.
unidentified
Yeah, I bet.
joe rogan
Especially just like a large audience.
Like if we were doing this in front of a large audience, that would be boring as fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That would be weird, right?
This is good when it's in your ear when you're at the gym or it's good when you're on the road.
But I don't know if this is like live audience fodder.
I would feel like I'd have to do stand-up.
Yeah.
tom segura
I don't know.
I mean, it's the first time, so hopefully we get a good turnout.
We'll stick to, I think, a limited time.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
brian redban
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the live one.
It just seemed like we were almost trying to put on a half-fake conversation just to be more entertaining of people looking at us.
joe rogan
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, well, we did it with Jimmy Norton, which was fun, because Jimmy just fell right into it perfectly and was killing.
He was really funny, and on purpose funny, and really going for the joke.
But yeah, it became almost like stand-up.
It gets weird.
It does get weird for you, man.
unidentified
Yeah, the audience.
joe rogan
It's not this weird, sort of intimate conversation.
tom segura
This is different, yeah.
It's a totally different thing.
joe rogan
Do you guys have a lot of people that listen to your podcast that are coming to your shows?
brian redban
It's starting.
unidentified
It's growing.
christina pazsitzky
It's coming.
I love it.
tom segura
We talk about how much we like it.
unidentified
God, I love it.
tom segura
It's so awesome.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
tom segura
Because sometimes, obviously, they have no idea who you are.
Sometimes they've seen you do stand-up on TV, like, oh, I saw your special, or I saw you on Conan, or whatever, saw something, and then But then it was something different about, they say I'm a mommy to us.
I love the podcast.
joe rogan
Oh, that's funny.
tom segura
And then you just feel like, oh, this person actually knows me.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, it's such a relief.
joe rogan
That's super cool.
christina pazsitzky
It's like, oh, they're on board.
I can talk about dolphin fucking.
And they're like, yeah, let's talk about dolphin fucking.
tom segura
Yeah, it's way more fun.
christina pazsitzky
I like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
It helps.
It's way cooler.
And I'm doing, oh, I just added Peoria for next week.
So if anybody's in Peoria, Illinois, I'm doing the chip box.
joe rogan
We need to create a website, Brian, eventually.
What we need to do is incorporate all of us and all of our podcasts into one website where there's like tiles.
You know what I mean?
Like everybody that we're sort of affiliated with, like Duncan and Joey and you guys and our...
There really should be one...
brian redban
Just make it on your links on your website.
joe rogan
That's Yeah, but wouldn't it be cool if there was one portal?
iTunes?
No, no, no.
Just the ones that we're all friends with.
tom segura
People could click and listen, or they could see where you're at.
joe rogan
That would be the best way to really get a gang of people to come to all of our podcasts, is to have a portal.
Ari's podcast, Duncan's podcast, and each one has a little square.
brian redban
I think once you know it already.
It takes a while.
Just subscribe, and then you don't even think about it.
joe rogan
Well, no, not necessarily, because we don't really talk about Duncan's podcast that much, nor do we talk about Ari's.
You can miss several podcasts in a row where we didn't talk about it.
You wouldn't even know it existed.
But if it was all clearly laid out and we had a website where there was tiles...
And that way, that would be a real way of everybody promoting everybody with no intention other than keeping...
You know what I mean?
There's no financial intentions at all.
It's all just about keeping this one group connected and helping people.
It's a good idea, right?
unidentified
Awesome.
joe rogan
You should totally do that.
christina pazsitzky
Especially for audiences.
If you like Ari, you probably will like us.
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it'll pump everybody up.
That's what we need to do next.
That's the next step.
That's the next level.
We need to have a podcast community of all podcasts that we appreciate and like together.
The idea of a channel like Death Squad, that's one way to do it too.
But also the way to do it is to just make sure that everybody is connected to like-minded folks or other cool people, other ones that you might think are interesting.
And then, you know...
Have it all like a one-stop shop where they know if they go to this, this is all the people that are cool with each other.
This is like a whole group of people that are all friends with each other.
tom segura
They all like each other.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian redban
Well, you're getting your website redesigned.
Just make it a link page on that.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think I'm going to do something along those lines.
I'm also going to make a website specifically designed for the podcast.
So there'll be two websites.
It'll be like my regular website and then there'll be a podcast specifically designed podcast network.
Or a website, rather.
And that's where I think we need to come up with some sort of a link to a network.
And maybe we all put a link on our site, and then that link will go to one website.
brian redban
Why are you doing so many websites, though?
Why are you breaking it up, I ask?
joe rogan
Well, it's not really broken up.
It'll be a section on my website, but if you go to it, it'll go to one that, like, when you go to that section, it'll be laid out like a whole site just for the podcast.
Each one will have a description of each podcast and who was the guest and how long it was and when it took place.
tom segura
Do you know what percentage, is there even, like, it's got to be a small percentage of your fans that come to shows that don't listen to the podcast?
joe rogan
It's almost non-existent.
unidentified
Really?
brian redban
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Dude, we were in Chicago.
Chicago was this giant fucking theater sold out.
And I go, how many of you guys listen to the podcast?
They went fucking apeshit.
They went apeshit.
It was crazy.
It was beautiful.
They're the coolest crowds I've ever had in my entire time of doing stand-up.
It's never been cool right now.
tom segura
Yeah, it was cool, man.
joe rogan
Even if one person's crazy, we just get rid of them real quick and it becomes entertaining.
This crowd's been amazing.
tom segura
It started, I think, when I... When I did Ann Arbor with you a few years ago, that was before we had a podcast, and I'd done yours a few times, and you were asking me, like, how many of you guys listen to the podcast?
And in my mind, it was going to be like three tables.
That's what I thought.
I'd be like, oh, these are all fans, but they don't listen to the podcast.
I thought I'd be like, oh, that's that fringe element, like, listen to it.
And that fucking club went bananas.
unidentified
Not only that, then you asked, like, who here knows Joey Diaz?
tom segura
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, people in Florida were calling out for me to tell Joey Diaz stories.
tom segura
So crazy.
joe rogan
He's so fun.
He's so lovable.
christina pazsitzky
He's so rad.
joe rogan
He's such a lovable human cartoon type dude.
You're just so lucky to have in your life, you know?
Such a fun guy to be around.
tom segura
We're having him on next week.
joe rogan
Oh, that's awesome, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're right.
That was when the podcast first started to kick in.
That was somewhere around two years ago, right?
unidentified
Right, yeah.
joe rogan
It was right after we had started it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I just bonked myself in the face with the fucking mic.
tom segura
I do it every day.
joe rogan
It's so stupid looking.
But that was definitely the beginning, but now it's a complete transformation.
tom segura
It's crazy.
When I did your Vogue Theater with you in Vancouver?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tom segura
The guy was like, there's more tickets that we sold for this than even any music event show ever.
joe rogan
They packed that place.
That was nuts.
It was really fun.
tom segura
It was really fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's definitely different now.
The shows, they're way different.
But it's also, I feel like, more of a responsibility to really produce good shit, too.
I really feel like these aren't just people that are coming to see the show.
I like them.
They like what we're doing.
It's a different sort of a connection.
So I feel hugely responsible to write good shit and produce good shit.
That's why I'm excited to have this special come out now.
As opposed to maybe a year ago when I could have put it out, but when you have a bit, man, it's like a samurai sword.
You fucking bend that blade and hammer it down and sharpen it up, and as time goes on, you'll edit some lines out and add some to it, and then somewhere along the line it reaches its perfect form.
I think you can use that sword to cut heads off after a couple of weeks, but it might not be the same sword, the delicate instrument of destruction that you'll have after two years when it's your closing bit.
tom segura
Yeah.
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Is there a better feeling than coming up with a new bit and having a crush?
unidentified
No.
I wonder.
joe rogan
I wonder, because I have this new bit, and it's like my little toy.
I can't wait to use it.
tom segura
Yeah, it's exciting.
joe rogan
And then I use it, and then I'm like, okay, now let's play with our old toys.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
New toys.
New toys are a monster right now.
unidentified
Woo!
joe rogan
I love the fact that, too, as you get older and more experienced and more education and more information in your head and better as a comedian, that every time you come up with new shit, it's like better new shit.
It's scary to abandon everything, but once you do, then you come up with a whole...
Ari had a real good point.
Like he was saying that if you worked on a bit and you decided to work on that bit for five or ten years, that all that energy you could have used on that bit, you could have abandoned it two years ago and then worked on a new bit for another two years.
And then you completely abandoned it and started all new.
And all that creativity would have gone into something completely new and different.
It's true.
It's totally true, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So there's like a line that you have to cross.
Like when is it?
Is it a year for a new act?
Is it two years?
tom segura
I think a year, if you start always turning over stuff after a year, you actually lose something.
I think a year, you have to be...
If you're talking about just abandoning everything and doing stuff every 12 months, I mean, just from experience of watching stand-up, I feel like it gets better in that 16 to 24-month frame where you can do it like it gets super tight, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I've definitely, we've all gone through that experience of recording something and then the next week you have like a new tagline.
Oh, it kills me.
Oh, it's over.
Mitch Hedberg actually redid a bit on the second album because he didn't have the tagline and said it on the album that he was doing that.
christina pazsitzky
That's really cool.
joe rogan
Here's the new part.
tom segura
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, because that's tempting.
When you've actually recorded the bit, then maybe you should throw it out, because you've recorded it.
Why hold on to something that you can't use again?
joe rogan
I talked to Gaffigan about this, and he and I are sort of in agreement about this.
Like, yeah, you've got to have all new shit, but you also have to do well.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't have a bad show.
And if you're tanking it with all your new stuff, it might be time to bust out some shit that really works and just pull this bitch out of the fire.
unidentified
Sure.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You have to find when is that time.
Some guys are like, I think Louis C.K. pretty much just guts it out.
And when he does new stuff, he just does only new stuff.
Yeah.
Chris Rock used to do that, too.
Remember, he used to come in the store and he would just do only new stuff and not be concerned whatsoever about it not going well.
He's trying to make it go well.
But if it doesn't, he's sticking to it.
He's not going to pull out some old shit out of his bag.
christina pazsitzky
Wow.
tom segura
Yeah, but that's the way you build.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's one way, and that's certainly a way.
Some guys like to sandwich it in between other bits, you know, and then slowly develop, like, them as new chunks instead of, like...
tom segura
I kind of feel like you get...
I get, like, a kind of energy out of opening with new stuff.
unidentified
I like to do it, too.
christina pazsitzky
It's risky.
unidentified
It's scary.
tom segura
It is a risk, but then, like, there's a bigger...
joe rogan
Christina, you're a risk teacher.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I'm a daredevil man.
joe rogan
Yeah, thrill seeker.
tom segura
It's exciting.
joe rogan
You have to be a comedian, right?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Don't you?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, you have to be completely willing to not have comfort financially, emotionally, sometimes physically.
joe rogan
But if it works out...
christina pazsitzky
It's awesome!
joe rogan
If it works out, you've got such a much better way of life than doing something you don't want to do.
christina pazsitzky
Absolutely.
joe rogan
That's the big curse of this society.
The big curse of this society is that it's so fucking complicated that a great many of us have to do some shit that sucks in order to keep this society rolling.
So that's why there's all these jobs that suck.
And people have to do those fucking jobs.
There's just no way around it.
They have to get done.
And so someone's doing it, and then the society is set up, and it's really hard to get ahead.
You're just scrounging and scratching, trying to take these jobs that suck, and then by the end of the week, you're goddamn exhausted.
That's how most people are living their life.
It's amazing.
It's really amazing when you stop and think about it.
I wonder how long society can really sustain itself once people get hip to that.
Because once people get hip to that, what are we going to do?
Are we going to invent robots?
Do all the jobs that suck?
Those jobs have to get done, right?
Unless we completely restructure the whole foundations of our society, those crappy jobs are going to have to be there.
tom segura
I don't think there's ever going to have to worry about that because too many people just revel in their misery.
christina pazsitzky
Or do they know they're miserable?
Are they cognizant?
joe rogan
Shit programming is a lot of it.
The human mind adapts incredibly well to its environment and adapts to incest and violence and all those things and treats them as the norm.
And that's what happens in every bad neighborhood all across the world.
The level of happiness is not often dictated by what their environment is like.
Sometimes it's just they can get used to anything.
People can get used to it.
tom segura
Yeah, but there's people who also know they're miserable.
What they don't know is that they could make choices to get out of that misery.
They don't act on it.
joe rogan
Well, the real issue, obviously, is kids that are in those environments, that they don't have a choice and didn't fuck up to get there.
But to be in a shit situation, it's never good for the mind.
It's never good for your relaxation, your ability to sit back and assess things.
christina pazsitzky
I gotta tell you, even when we lived in that terrible neighborhood for two years, it took an emotional toll on me.
I was like, God, imagine if I grew up in this neighborhood.
unidentified
Oof.
christina pazsitzky
And this is all I saw, and I never knew that there was a neighborhood just three miles away that I was going to move to that would change my outlook on everything.
But it motivated us to work so much harder and get the fuck out of that place.
joe rogan
That's really cool, though, that it did that.
christina pazsitzky
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tom segura
You can just fall into the misery of it.
joe rogan
One of the things that I liked most about living in Colorado was that there was very few people up there, so I didn't feel like I was being inundated by other people's personalities.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
And when you're in a bad neighborhood, you're inundated by...
It seems like hippie bullshit, but I believe that if you're in a neighborhood where a lot of crime is going on, a lot of negative shit is going on, you can feel it in the air.
christina pazsitzky
Absolutely.
joe rogan
You almost can feel it in the air.
I would love to see studies on plants that grow up around violent areas, if they're all fucked up and shaky.
I wonder...
Nervous wreck plants.
Plants just always gunshots around here.
christina pazsitzky
But it's true.
You're a product of your environment.
Like, I was remembering last night, in second grade, I hung out with this girl, Megan, and she was a straight A student, our third grades, right?
And my grades went up for the first time in my life.
Like, I was getting straight A's because I was hanging out with this nerdy girl who was really into studies.
And then the minute we, you know, stopped being friends, I went back to being my normal slacker C student.
joe rogan
Wow, that's amazing.
christina pazsitzky
But there is something to that.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, it is.
christina pazsitzky
And hanging out with comics, too, that are funnier than you.
joe rogan
And prolific.
christina pazsitzky
You want them to be.
joe rogan
There's certain guys like Bill Burr, he's always real prolific.
Whenever I see him do a bunch of new shit, I get excited, I want to go write.
Chappelle, when I'm seeing him do sets, it's pretty rare to catch him these days.
But yeah, I always get excited, want to go home and write.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, we feed off each other for sure.
No doubt about it.
That's one of the beautiful things about LA. Think about how many good comics are here.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I like this whole podcast network idea that I had.
You can't do that in any other place.
We have that many cool people.
Joey, Ari, Duncan, you guys.
Everyone is connected.
Red Band.
Everyone's connected.
You know, Britt Fitzsimmons.
If you put up how many great podcasts emanate from this one area, it's pretty much incredible.
tom segura
It's a lot.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, there's not a lot of spots in the country where you could start a whole network of podcasts that are as established as the ones that we have here in LA. It's incredible how that has taken over as such a dominating force in entertainment, and it's going to keep growing.
Well, it's free.
tom segura
Right.
joe rogan
And it's really good.
tom segura
But people are choosing that over turning on a television or over watching a movie.
joe rogan
Well, it's really good to get shit done, you know, like if you're cleaning up your office.
I love listening to podcasts when I'm cleaning up my office or something.
Obviously, I do a lot of cleaning.
christina pazsitzky
You should see our place.
joe rogan
I have too much shit in here.
I need to get rid of some of it.
unidentified
This isn't even bad.
joe rogan
But the idea that it's in a lot of people's ears when they're at the gym and they're pushing themselves through their workouts and stuff.
I think that's one of the coolest aspects about this form of entertainment.
It's the form of entertainment that makes doing other shit more interesting.
You do it while you're on long drives.
You do it while you're on a commute.
tom segura
It is the best.
christina pazsitzky
Airplanes.
joe rogan
Yeah, airplanes.
christina pazsitzky
All the time.
joe rogan
And if you get three or four good ones, man, the whole flight to Australia is done.
Yeah.
You just plug those bitches on, kick back, have a glass of wine, and join in, man.
Maybe if you've timed it correctly, you take an edible when you're at the airport.
Right as you pull up, you don't want anything on you, folks.
Don't fly dirty.
tom segura
Don't fly dirty.
joe rogan
Don't be scared of flying with an edible.
It's a life-changing goddamn experience.
christina pazsitzky
And you know what's great about podcasting, too, is that I feel like it harkens back to the time of radio, when people had to just sit and listen, and listen to long stories.
And that doesn't exist on television anymore.
Everything's cut so fast, and the information's so quick, that now it's like we're going back.
And I love that idea, that you can just sit and listen to a three-hour thing.
joe rogan
People just talking.
christina pazsitzky
Natural.
joe rogan
Natural.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Not this hyper-information show.
joe rogan
Seven-minute set on the Tonight Show where you're sitting down on the couch talking about your...
Or television shows.
unidentified
Zoo Fucking half second edits Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom Yeah, and then they tell you, coming up next, you're going to see this scene.
Right.
christina pazsitzky
And then you come back from commercial, you're going to see this scene right now.
And then they show you the scene.
And they're like, yeah, man, I get it.
I fucking got it.
Like, I can process information.
Yeah.
joe rogan
If we had a producer of this show and they were like, well, this is some of the things we're going to do to take it to the next level, okay?
unidentified
We've got to edit it.
joe rogan
We've got to edit it.
There's a lot of downtime.
There's two minutes where you're twittering.
You're twittering on this podcast for two minutes.
You know, sorry.
tom segura
That's actually what I love.
joe rogan
That's part of the beautiful thing about it.
It's like when you hear you talk, you get to really know you.
When you hear you talk, you get to really know you.
It's not a sound bite.
It's a long conversation.
tom segura
I noticed that with a lot of foreign films sometimes, you'll have longer shots.
They won't edit.
They won't cut.
And you're like, yeah, but that's actually a very...
They'll let the shot go of him running it, and the coffee pouring, and then him pouring it in, and stirring it, and you're like, but that guy's really making coffee.
So it's not with fucking 15 cuts to make it.
But you're watching real life kind of develop right then.
You sink into it more.
But American style of editing TV or film is always, well, don't let a shot last too long.
joe rogan
Music video style.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tom segura
Yeah, that's the way things are.
joe rogan
Do you think that is making people dumb or making people impatient?
christina pazsitzky
Impatient, for sure.
It's making people, I believe.
For instance, on Facebook, like, not like.
It's all binary.
Zero, one.
Coke, Pepsi.
Yes, no.
You know how limiting that is to human thought?
I mean, I don't even know people that read books right now.
I mean, maybe one in the last month, but it just limits the way we see the world.
This generation only grows up knowing, I like this.
Epic fail.
That shit makes me bananas.
unidentified
Fool!
christina pazsitzky
Oh, really?
That was a fail?
Some guy tried something and didn't succeed, and we're all going to shit on that person for doing it.
tom segura
We encourage people to be like, that sucks.
This fucking sucks.
christina pazsitzky
It's a culture of that sucks.
joe rogan
And then there's YouTube comments where there's no repercussions.
There's no repercussions.
You're completely anonymous.
So you're allowed to say things that you would never say with any real person in front of you because it's such a cunt thing to do.
It'd be horrible.
tom segura
They're assholes.
They're shitty about it.
They're racist.
They're misogynistic.
They're homophobic.
Well, that's normal.
christina pazsitzky
But come say it to my face.
joe rogan
It's a weird thing where we've developed a way to communicate with people that there's no interaction.
There's no exchange.
You're allowed to throw the information out there like a bomb.
Like you lob a bomb over a building.
brian redban
Your message board is a perfect example of that.
If I was just talking to you and guys in a room and then some guy came up and was like, you know, you're just annoying.
I think your face sucks.
You would never say that.
unidentified
Yeah, you would not just come up and win my conversation.
joe rogan
And people don't understand when I kick them out of a band and they say, yeah, I can't believe you want censorship.
I don't want censorship.
This is what it is.
This is a house party.
My website is an internet house party.
And anybody can join.
But when you're a cunt, when you create problems and negative energy, when you don't know how to...
Even if you have a criticism or something, there's a lot of people that have had very valid criticisms.
And those help me.
I really think they do.
I think valid criticisms on the podcast or stand-up or even my MMA commentary, anything, I think...
I don't think anyone's ever perfect.
And I think a lot of times, especially when you're doing as much on-the-fly ad-libbing stuff as I'm doing, 99% of my living I make completely ad-libbing.
That's what I'm doing.
I'm going to make mistakes.
I'm going to make mistakes when I'm doing stand-up commentary for the UFC. I'm going to make mistakes when I'm doing stand-up.
It's just a part of life.
So I appreciate criticism and I understand that when I'm doing something, oftentimes it's completely unplanned out.
Like this exact sentence that I'm saying right now, completely unplanned out.
So when people will nitpick and criticize the hidden meaning behind each fucking word or each word you chose or the way you went with the conversation, it's like, God damn, will you just settle the fuck down?
It's like you give people too much of an opportunity to be cunty.
You know the Neil Brennan podcast?
Some guy was saying that I was yelling down Neil because I didn't agree with his statements.
I was like, what the fuck podcast did you listen to?
We had a podcast where we all had fun together.
There was no disagreements whatsoever.
But people will break this shit down to make it some...
They will just nitpick on only the negative aspects of it.
And it's always people that are fucking...
christina pazsitzky
Miserable cunts.
brian redban
You've got to also think, like, each one of these episodes, and not getting into exact numbers, let's just say hundreds of thousands of people listen to this, and you might hear, out of hundreds of thousands of people, you might hear, like, 20 people.
And that's the bottom of the barrel.
Most negative, they have a million cats.
They're fucking assholes in general.
And if you focus on those 20 and not the 490 million other people, then you're going to drive yourself crazy.
unidentified
Crazy.
joe rogan
That's a good point, but I firmly believe that you can't be too self-congratulatory, and I think you have to address any possible valid criticisms.
So when I read negative shit, I have to take it into assessment.
I have to go, okay, I've got to look at this objectively.
Did I do that?
Did I do that?
Because I know when I've done something wrong, I've made mistakes.
I know when I do.
Did I do that?
And then if you don't, then you have to go, well, then you've got to look at the motivation of this person and try to figure out, why did you look at this whole thing so skewed?
brian redban
And that's the driving you crazy part that I'm talking about.
joe rogan
But it's fascinating.
It's important to out those people.
It's important to out those people to set the tone for the rest of the board.
You let those people know that, look, this is what's going on here.
This is just cunty negative behavior.
It's not necessary.
Let's communicate like we're at my house.
We're at a house party.
Let's be polite.
Look, if we're at a house party and someone comes up to me and starts saying, hey, the Mormon faith is a true faith and Joseph Smith is...
Okay, let's have a polite conversation about this.
Let's politely talk about it.
You tell me why.
I'll pretend like you're my wife's friend's husband.
You know what I mean?
You're a guy I have to be nice to.
christina pazsitzky
So go ahead.
joe rogan
Tell me what the fuck you think and hopefully we can get through this without anybody raising their voice.
But on the internet, it's right away.
You fucking faggot.
Right away.
Retard.
Go back to school.
unidentified
It kills me.
joe rogan
Fail.
unidentified
Pwned.
christina pazsitzky
Stupid cunt.
joe rogan
You're so dumb.
unidentified
Die.
christina pazsitzky
It kills me because growing up here in the Valley, if you said some shit to someone...
You got fucking smacked.
I used to fight with black girls because I would say shit.
joe rogan
Whoa.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
But you know what I learned?
unidentified
What?
christina pazsitzky
Not to fucking say shit to people because you get punched.
unidentified
Yeah, that's how you learn.
brian redban
And don't fight with black girls.
christina pazsitzky
You fight with black chicks and they fucking tell you what's up and guess what?
I don't write awful things on the internet to people.
joe rogan
How often do you go on World Star Hip Hop?
christina pazsitzky
What's that?
I don't even know what that is.
joe rogan
You don't know what worldstarhiphop.com is?
unidentified
No, it isn't.
joe rogan
If you would go on worldstarhiphop.com, you would cease and desist all fucking with black girls immediately.
Because nobody lays a beating on another girl like a black girl does.
christina pazsitzky
Thank you, I know.
joe rogan
Oh my god, there's a recent one over a Twitter beef.
If you just google worldstarhiphop.com Twitter beef.
Somebody sent it to me.
Brian will pull it up.
If you want to pull it up, Brian, pull it up on YouTube.
christina pazsitzky
Black girls are the best fighters.
joe rogan
World Star Hip Hop.
Is that on the iPad?
Will it work on the iPad?
christina pazsitzky
We should make them MMA fighters.
joe rogan
This chick beat the fuck out of this girl and went right away to the old school pride head stomps.
She was head stomping her.
She got her down, ragdolled to the ground, and stomped her in the head immediately like a killer.
Threw bombs at her, like really vicious bombs.
Punches and stomps.
tom segura
There's some real brutal on Worldstar.
There's some street knockouts where you see the head hit the concrete.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tom segura
A lot of them.
joe rogan
And then they start kicking them in the head while they're down.
christina pazsitzky
I didn't get it that bad.
unidentified
I just got punched in the stomach a few times and I was like, all right, I'm sorry.
joe rogan
World Star Hip Hop is easily the worst example of humanity available on the internet outside of snuff films.
Because some of those people might have died.
And if they didn't die, a piece of them died.
There's this one guy that got knocked out where they just kept kicking him in the head while he was unconscious.
It's so hard to watch.
That guy is forever fucked.
There's no question in my mind that that damage that he got that day to his brain is irreparable.
He got hit by punts, soccer kicks to the head while he's unconscious.
People are just running over and punching him in the face.
So he's getting just concussion after concussion.
His brain is just swashing inside his skull.
For sure, he's going to be fucked up for months.
tom segura
Did you see the one in Baltimore where they knocked him out and then they started taking his clothes off?
joe rogan
Yes, started taking his clothes off.
christina pazsitzky
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
And the sound of his head falling onto the concrete while he was unconscious when he gets knocked out by the punch.
christina pazsitzky
I have a hard time watching Rocky movies.
joe rogan
I got a bunch of tweets from cops in Baltimore because Neil Brennan and I were talking about it and Neil was saying, well, it's like sort of a mob mentality that takes on And I said, well, I totally agreed to a certain extent, although I agree to a certain extent that my mentality is real and it does happen sometimes.
I don't think that's what was going on there.
I think that was a drunk guy that was around a bunch of criminals, man, and they're just used to that.
And these guys from Baltimore, these cops from Baltimore tweeted me and a bunch of them were telling me, like, read this, check out that.
And other people tweeted me about the same issue.
unidentified
Like, apparently Baltimore's got a crazy fucking crime.
tom segura
Yeah, it's always at the top.
joe rogan
One cop said he's just shocked at the amount of crime he sees every day.
tom segura
Charm City.
Yeah, that's what they call it.
joe rogan
But you would think, like, Baltimore sounds like a bunch of white people that live by the water and eat crabs.
You know, this is near Maryland.
brian redban
Isn't D.C. also like that?
Washington, D.C. You would think that would be the best.
joe rogan
D.C., they're loasters.
christina pazsitzky
What about Detroit?
tom segura
D.C. DC's only about a half an hour away from Baltimore.
unidentified
Oh, right, man.
joe rogan
I don't think it's any of those, bro.
tom segura
Rough city, man.
brian redban
Wait, what's it called?
What would this search were?
You just said World Star Hip Hop Girl Fight?
joe rogan
No, not Girl Fight.
World Star Hip Hop Twitter Beef.
brian redban
Twitter Beef.
joe rogan
Yeah, just Twitter Beef.
Because I think there's not a lot that fall into the category of Twitter Beef.
This girl showed up at this girl's house and said, we're going to fight.
And while the other person was filming it, she pulled her out of her house and violently beat the fuck out of her.
christina pazsitzky
Girl on Girl Fighting is crazy to me.
tom segura
They have compilations.
joe rogan
No, that's Jennifer Hudson, bro.
World Star Hip Hop Twitter Beef.
Just Google those words.
World Star Hip Hop Twitter Beef.
Look, here, I'll do it real quick.
unidentified
You know, even Oprah Winfrey gets people hatefully emailing her.
christina pazsitzky
I watch the Oprah Soul series.
She talks about it.
She's like, people send me things.
I'm like, what are you going to hate on?
She's just trying to help the world, man.
I mean, even if you don't agree with it, like, don't hate male Oprah Winfrey.
Come on, man.
joe rogan
No, that's not it.
tom segura
What the poor woman?
People hate her a long time.
joe rogan
Girls.
tom segura
Because she's successful, too, though.
christina pazsitzky
Of course, yeah.
People hate everything.
People hate the Beatles.
You fucking watch on YouTube under Beatles videos.
tom segura
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
I hate them.
brian redban
Yeah, here it is.
joe rogan
Home Invasion.
Right here, bro.
Here it is, right here.
WorldStarHipHop.com.
Just look up Home Invasion.
Girl gets tore up on her own doorstep over Twitter beef.
Just look for Home Invasion.
Home Invasion Twitter beef on WorldStarHipHop.
christina pazsitzky
So you clean this out on this end, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's when you release the Kraken of Shame.
unidentified
You don't want that.
joe rogan
You don't want that?
unidentified
Maybe you do.
joe rogan
Apparently there's a video where a girl puts one of those up her ass and then a guy fucks the flashlight.
brian redban
Hey, that's not my idea.
joe rogan
Was it really your idea?
brian redban
Jerks.
joe rogan
Well, by the way, Brian, I don't think you're the first person to think of that shit.
christina pazsitzky
In her asshole, but why not her vagina hole?
joe rogan
Well, because her asshole is more pliable.
christina pazsitzky
Gotcha.
joe rogan
There's a lot of girls that have giant dumpers.
They can take large objects up there.
That's a really, you know, give a guy a really distorted perception of reality if he's into that shit, you know?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, man.
tom segura
Yeah.
We could put this in somebody's asshole.
christina pazsitzky
I don't like anything in my butthole.
tom segura
Really?
joe rogan
Nice.
Not really.
Nice way to announce it on the podcast.
tom segura
There's a couple things to put up there.
christina pazsitzky
I like to share.
joe rogan
Well, it's important to share.
Especially with the world.
Just like this, you know, this lady has the right to stick a fleshlight up her butthole.
You can know that someone can do that.
You should also know.
Watch this girl.
Beat the fuck.
Can you go full screen on that?
Yeah.
Watch this girl.
She shows up at this girl's house.
It's coming up real soon.
It's coming up real soon.
christina pazsitzky
Uh-oh.
tom segura
Oh, shit.
unidentified
Okay.
Everybody, girl, who's going to touch me, bro?
And I say everybody.
I say my people.
Who's going to touch me?
joe rogan
Watch it.
She just pulls her out of the house.
unidentified
Oh, that's how it happens. - What happens?
joe rogan
Look how violent this bitch is.
unidentified
She's beating the fuck out of this girl.
joe rogan
Stomping on her head, kicking her in the head.
Oh, the hair.
christina pazsitzky
Goddammit.
joe rogan
Look how strong that girl is.
She just pulled her down the stairs by her hair.
brian redban
That's so scary.
christina pazsitzky
That's horrifying.
joe rogan
Talk about that, hoe.
That should be on a t-shirt.
That's scary.
Talk about that, hoe.
christina pazsitzky
See, that's what can happen.
That is what can happen.
joe rogan
Don't talk shit to black girls.
unidentified
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
Did you hear a guy got arrested in England for saying something on Twitter?
Have you heard about this?
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, let me find this because it's fucking crazy.
It was on Stanhope's Twitter.
christina pazsitzky
Arrested?
joe rogan
Yeah, the dude's name is Ollie something or another.
Let me find it real quick.
Let me go through my Twitter.
But it's fucking crazy shit.
Apparently he was fucking with their government over there.
Here it is.
The guy was arrested and convicted.
The guy's name is Sir Ollie.
Sir underscore Ollie underscore C. And he got arrested and convicted for saying cunt on his Twitter.
And I'm not bullshitting.
It's about some federal, section 127 of the Communications Act of 2003 is what they got him on.
This is all the guy wrote.
unidentified
Ready?
joe rogan
Which cunt lives in a house like this?
Period.
Answers on a postcard to Bexley Council.
So I guess it's the Bexley Council that he was having a problem with.
So that's all he said.
Which cunt lives in a house like this?
Answers on a postcard to Bexley Council.
And that was the hashtag, Bexley Council.
And then here's another one, another tweet.
It's silly posting a picture of a house on Twitter without an address.
That will come later.
Please feel free to post actual shit.
Okay, what that means, I don't know.
But it sounds like he put a photograph of a counselor's home.
Yeah, okay, Melvin Seymour.
He put a photograph of this guy's home.
unidentified
Probably not a good idea.
joe rogan
Well, that changes everything.
Because, first of all, that's creepy as fuck.
That he put this guy's picture and he took a photo of it.
But that they got him for using the word cunt is what's fascinating.
That they didn't get him for taking that picture, which apparently was legal.
Yes.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, for saying cunt.
christina pazsitzky
Or for calling a government guy?
joe rogan
I don't know, but he's saying which cunt lives there.
christina pazsitzky
Oh boy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
Well, cunt is a lot less offensive in the UK. Like, you call people cunts like every other word.
joe rogan
Yeah, exactly.
So we really should have been, they should have got pissed at him for taking a picture of that guy's house, but I guess they couldn't do anything about that.
tom segura
He got arrested for this.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, apparently.
And, of course, Stanhope took up the fight.
Did you see Stanhope, the thing that was going on with him and that lady in England?
christina pazsitzky
No.
joe rogan
You didn't see?
Oh, it was great.
Oh, wait.
tom segura
Yes, yes, I did read something about this, where he was doing shows over there.
joe rogan
Guy's horribly ill, okay?
And this woman wrote this thing about saying this guy does not have the right to die.
And that it's not his choice to decide when to die.
So Stanhope comes on, and not only does he go after her, and he goes off on Twitter and says, congratulations, you made it into the act.
He's saying all this shit on Twitter.
And then he hopes that she gets a fetid cyst on her ovaries.
All kinds of craziness, right?
He's out of his mind.
So then she writes some whole really crazy, dumb, terribly written article about him, and comparing him to some other horrible people in the world, and what she doesn't address is the fact that she had written an article just a couple years ago praising a mother for taking and what she doesn't address is the fact that she had written an article just a couple years ago praising a mother for taking her And so she's a hypocrite in her own writing.
She's not even accountable for her words.
It's just verbal diarrhea.
She's one of those dumb people that writes things down and tries to make some sort of a point because her job is to write an article and Doug found her conclusions to be illogical, idiotic, and offensive.
So he, you know, in his way, you know, he asked for fucking injuries to her body and pussy problems and...
But he's a fucking stand-up comedian.
So she went off and she was trying to get him arrested and had them investigate him and all sorts of different shit.
But he didn't really do anything wrong.
And the whole thing is hilarious.
And the whole thing only probably made Doug an even bigger hero in the UK. Because she's a moron.
If you read the shit that she wrote, she's such a fucking gangbag.
tom segura
And he did this while in England, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, while in England.
Which is crazy when you think about how lenient they are.
Because in America, all some kids had to do is say they were going to come down and destroy America and dig up Marilyn Monroe's bones.
And they said that on Twitter.
And so they were coming to party.
And the fucking people at the TSA or whatever the hell it is.
What is it?
It's not TSA. Homeland Security.
Homeland Security.
Yeah, they sent them back.
They arrested them.
They interrogated them and sent them back home.
They looked in their shit for shovels.
They thought they were really going to bring shovels with them.
Fucking dummies.
tom segura
TSA's the worst.
joe rogan
Silly bitches.
They sound like fun people.
I want them over here.
They say they're coming over here to destroy America and dig up Marilyn Monroe's bones.
christina pazsitzky
Where's the party?
tom segura
We're going to fucking throw down here.
joe rogan
Yeah, that sounds like some people, you know, we could have a fucking good time with them.
They sound like some people that are coming here to have fun.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
You don't think they're really going to destroy America?
Al-Qaeda could do it, but some 24-year-old couple from England is going to pull it off?
christina pazsitzky
Some drunk kids.
Stop.
For sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, drunk kids straight out of college, bitch.
unidentified
Ridiculous.
christina pazsitzky
This reminds me of, Tom, you remember that article you sent me about that woman in the UK who claims that she's too beautiful?
joe rogan
Yes, I saw that.
unidentified
Did you see that?
joe rogan
I think that's subtle satire, if I had to guess.
christina pazsitzky
You think?
tom segura
I didn't know that.
I mean, you could read it obviously like that, but the fact that there were all these follow-ups...
I mean, it's either a well-orchestrated...
I don't know.
joe rogan
Crazy bitch.
tom segura
Yeah, hoax, or it's a crazy bitch.
joe rogan
Yeah, a little both.
christina pazsitzky
She seemed crazy bitch.
joe rogan
I think the writer had a little bit of tongue-in-cheek while he was writing it, because he kind of knew that she was really a six, so as he's putting that picture out...
She wasn't really attractive.
tom segura
But she was sincere.
joe rogan
She wasn't ugly.
Yes, I think so.
christina pazsitzky
She was sincere.
joe rogan
A bit of Windy City heat.
tom segura
It also felt like it.
But the best was that everybody who was critical of her, it played into her ridiculous life.
She was like, see?
All the haters came out.
unidentified
I'm so hot.
tom segura
Because I'm so hot.
joe rogan
There are a lot of haters out there.
How do we fix it, Christina?
How do we get rid of them?
How do we bring them up?
How do we raise up the haters?
Is it possible?
christina pazsitzky
Therapy.
Weed.
unidentified
Therapies?
joe rogan
Get out?
christina pazsitzky
For real?
Psychotherapy.
joe rogan
Does that stuff work?
Because a lot of people that I know that have been in it say that it doesn't change.
christina pazsitzky
Changed my life.
joe rogan
For real?
christina pazsitzky
I've been doing it for two years.
joe rogan
Two years.
christina pazsitzky
And it's improved my...
I used to be riddled with anxiety and depression.
tom segura
Really?
christina pazsitzky
I was, you know, I was goth.
When I was 14, I was suicidal.
I was crazy.
unidentified
Whoa.
christina pazsitzky
And I was depressed for years.
And I... Two years in psychotherapy and I'm, like, infinitely better.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
You're the best success story I've ever heard from it.
christina pazsitzky
Really?
Well I have a great psychotherapist if anyone wants...
joe rogan
I have too many friends that keep going to therapists and keep continuing with the same fuck-ups and it's confusing to me.
christina pazsitzky
If you're not seeing progress, like I know people that go to the same person for like 10 years and are the same, going in circles.
You need to find somebody that can really get to the root of your bullshit Right.
And then I believe undo that bullshit.
joe rogan
So you got super lucky first time with this?
This is the first counsel?
christina pazsitzky
I had seen some other guy that was wearing white Velcro shoes and mommy jeans.
unidentified
Holla!
christina pazsitzky
Yeah.
And I was like, you can't even dress yourself.
You can't fucking counsel me on my life.
So I dumped him.
joe rogan
What's that about?
christina pazsitzky
And then this broad's like, she changed my life.
joe rogan
Velcro never really caught on for shoes, did it?
It's great for little kids.
christina pazsitzky
Like in third grade.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kangaroos.
joe rogan
Yeah.
christina pazsitzky
The little Velcro pouch.
joe rogan
It's weird, isn't it?
unidentified
Yeah.
You should bring that back, man.
christina pazsitzky
It's very useful.
joe rogan
It's very useful, but it's just so douchey.
There's something dorky about Velcro for whatever reason.
christina pazsitzky
Real lame, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, never caught on.
christina pazsitzky
Why is that?
They caught on.
brian redban
It's really popular for a while.
joe rogan
No, but I'm saying it's not there.
Most of the sneakers we buy have laces.
brian redban
Right.
I saw it the other day.
I think the problem with Velcro, though, is after a couple weeks, they're getting shit in the Velcro, like cotton and stuff like that, and they start being annoying.
In the past, you just get new shoelaces.
joe rogan
Right.
christina pazsitzky
They lose their sticky.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's true.
But they should be able to replace that shit like you replace shoelaces.
brian redban
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then you'd have to go somewhere and do it.
That's annoying.
christina pazsitzky
That's a nuisance.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's stupid.
christina pazsitzky
I like Vans right now.
Slip-ons, no laces, no Velcro.
joe rogan
Do you have them in like the cheap trick black and white checkerboard?
christina pazsitzky
No, that's too dykey.
unidentified
I can't.
Too dykey?
christina pazsitzky
I'm a lady.
I'm a lady.
tom segura
Language.
joe rogan
Too dykey.
christina pazsitzky
Well, look, I'm already crossing the line as a female comic, so I try to keep it somewhat feminine.
joe rogan
Do you feel like as a female comic, well, I've always felt, tell me if I'm right, that it's harder because you have less people want to hear you talk.
christina pazsitzky
No one wants to hear me talk.
joe rogan
Less people want to take your opinion seriously because you're a woman.
So if you get on stage and you want to start talking about politics, immediately you're running uphill battle.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
You talk about sex, you're a whore.
christina pazsitzky
For sure.
joe rogan
Do you look at other comics, guy comics, and go, God, they get away with so much.
christina pazsitzky
I do, but I also grew up admiring male comedians.
I really loved watching Bill Hicks and a lot of dudes.
But yes, you're right.
Absolutely.
Society doesn't privilege intelligence and women.
You should just be hot.
So that's the message you get growing up.
Just don't read books.
Just be hot.
So we're up against that.
You know, I actually try to channel masculine energy.
When I go up there, I always have this image of me putting my dick on the crowd.
joe rogan
Do you really?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I swear to God.
joe rogan
Have you ever worked on this with your counselor?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, but I don't want to fuck with how I do stand-up.
joe rogan
No, but I mean, is he approve of this lay-the-dick-on-the-crowd method?
christina pazsitzky
Um, I guess because it works for me in that, like, there's, you know, different parts to your personality.
I'm not that way at home with my husband.
unidentified
Right.
christina pazsitzky
I'm a woman with my husband, right?
Like, I like being a feminine, but on stage, I just, I'm a fucking dude.
joe rogan
You kind of have to.
brian redban
It's a masculine thing.
christina pazsitzky
It's a masculine art form.
Yeah, it is.
tom segura
Femininity doesn't really read it as funny.
christina pazsitzky
No, it's not funny.
tom segura
You know?
joe rogan
Not as funny.
It's a different kind of funny.
There's some people that are like, okay, here's a very funny, feminine comic.
Wendy Liebman.
Very funny, very feminine.
Very clever writing, but very feminine.
Feminine-based.
tom segura
That's true.
christina pazsitzky
Well, here's my theory on this, okay?
Society wants women to be agreeable, to say the right thing, and to make everybody feel comfortable.
What's funny about that?
Fucking nothing.
joe rogan
It's funny for me.
I'm a man.
unidentified
I was so lucky.
christina pazsitzky
But you know what I mean?
I think that's why female comedy sometimes fails.
Because if you're playing into that norm, that social norm, then you're like, well, this just agrees with what a woman should be.
joe rogan
When did females get the right to vote?
What year was that?
christina pazsitzky
I would say...
joe rogan
1930s or some shit?
christina pazsitzky
Oh, the suffragists.
joe rogan
Was it after that, right?
christina pazsitzky
I know in 1974 a woman couldn't have a credit card unless her husband or her father allowed it.
That was in 1974. That makes sense.
Right, Tommy?
joe rogan
1913. 1913 they could vote?
Yeah.
tom segura
Yeah, in 1913. I know that they couldn't run the Boston Marathon until sometime in the summer.
unidentified
Get out of the way.
christina pazsitzky
We couldn't run marathons in the 60s.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That's pretty crazy.
christina pazsitzky
That was just not that long ago.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's weird, right?
It's weird that the woman's right to vote is literally 100 years old.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian redban
That's why we need to invest in time machines.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
When you really stop and think about that, that's really crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's hard to believe.
christina pazsitzky
But what you were saying about having opinions, actually people don't expect me to have them, so when I do, then they're like, whoa, whoa, you little girl.
I can get away with saying crazy foul shit, and then they're like, look at her, isn't she cute with her opinions and her thoughts, you know?
So it can work to my advantage.
I can say shit that dudes can't sometimes.
joe rogan
Really?
Like, in what way?
christina pazsitzky
I won't threaten or challenge.
Like, for instance, like, let's say you said something.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's a good example.
joe rogan
Like a hacker or something, you mean?
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, I can tell a guy, I will fucking shit down your throat if you do not shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Oh, right, right.
I see what you're saying.
christina pazsitzky
He's not going to hit me.
joe rogan
He's not going to feel threatened.
christina pazsitzky
Yeah, he'll be like, oh, that's so cute.
unidentified
Right, right.
christina pazsitzky
But if you were to say that, that guy might stand out and be like, Ray Joe Rogan, fuck you.
And then you guys will fight.
joe rogan
I like how you use my full name.
unidentified
Yeah, me too.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's true.
You can do it and there's a lot of funny in it.
But Bobby Lee could do it, too.
brian redban
I could do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, you could do it, too.
You just have to not be physically threatening.
brian redban
They're seven years old.
christina pazsitzky
Yes.
brian redban
I make poopies down your throat.
christina pazsitzky
I want to do it.
joe rogan
I'd say 11. I don't think he's seven.
I think he's a brilliant 11-year-old.
tom segura
Guys, start driving slower.
christina pazsitzky
Pre-pubescent.
tom segura
Don't scare Brian.
joe rogan
There's all these Lamborghinis that are just putting him in...
On death's door.
200 down sunset.
Cars are too fast, you guys.
They totally blow like five lights in a row.
That's happening every day.
christina pazsitzky
I like the apricot flavor.
joe rogan
Goddamn Lamborghini Avengers.
They come flying in.
unidentified
This is so cute.
christina pazsitzky
What do you like to eat?
unidentified
What's your favorite food?
christina pazsitzky
Pizza or hot dogs?
brian redban
Steak and pizza.
christina pazsitzky
Chicken nuggets.
joe rogan
Are you thinking he's into childish foods?
Stuff that you get at Chuck E. Cheese?
unidentified
Yeah.
tom segura
Hot dogs if they're sliced up for me.
brian redban
I like steak a lot.
There's actually this steakhouse in Burbank that I just went to called the Smokehouse.
I don't know if you've heard of it.
It's right across the street from Warner Brothers.
joe rogan
It's old, right?
brian redban
It's been there for 65 years.
What's it called?
Smokehouse.
And the story is about how Bob Hope used to go there and how blah, blah, blah, and all this shit happens.
And I ordered a steak, and I swear to God, they pan-fried it.
It was a $30 steak, but they just put it in a pan.
Have you ever had that where it feels like, alright, this is not even a grill?
joe rogan
Well, some people prefer doing it on a pan, actually.
Alton, what is that guy's name?
Alton Eats.
You know what I'm talking about?
brian redban
Is that a 70s thing or something?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Apparently some people, there's different ways of cooking steak.
Obviously one of them is cooking it on an infrared grill or a coal grill or a gas grill.
You do it that way.
But some people believe that the best way is to sear it on a cast iron pan.
And that you cook it on a skillet and then you put that skillet in the oven.
You finish it off in the oven.
I've done it that way before.
brian redban
I don't like it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't like it as much as I like it over coal.
I like over hardwood charcoal.
brian redban
It kind of pissed me off.
I felt like, wow, I just spent $30 on a good piece of meat.
It was a porterhouse.
And that shit tastes like fucking Norm's.
Nothing against Norm's, but like a $5 steak.
joe rogan
Really?
brian redban
Yeah, that's what I felt like.
tom segura
Nothing against Norm's and your $5 steak.
joe rogan
Shit all over the $5 steak.
brian redban
Norm's is the best.
joe rogan
How can you get a steak for $5?
How can they even do that?
brian redban
It's amazing.
joe rogan
That place is amazing.
unidentified
No way.
joe rogan
What does it look like before they cook it?
brian redban
It's Mafia me, Joe Rogan!
unidentified
It's Mafia me!
tom segura
You've been to Taylor's Steakhouse?
joe rogan
Where's that?
tom segura
That's old school.
It's from like the 50s.
It's on 8th Street.
Oh, yeah?
It's like you could tell it was there before the neighborhood was there.
joe rogan
What about Musso and Franks?
You ever been there?
tom segura
I've never been there.
That's old school.
joe rogan
That place is amazing.
Musso and Franks is amazing.
tom segura
Good steak.
joe rogan
Make me hungry, son.
Alright, this podcast, let's fucking call it over.
unidentified
Alright.
joe rogan
Should we call it over?
tom segura
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Look, you guys are the shit.
As always, my favorite comedy couple in the history of comedy.
How about that?
Thanks for having me, man.
You guys win.
You're number one.
Anytime.
You guys are awesome.
I really think we should look into doing something like that.
Have one big network website where we're all together and have a link on our shit.
tom segura
I love it, man.
joe rogan
That's a good idea.
Thank you to everybody that tunes into this fucking poorly edited podcast.
Patched together.
Ridiculous conversation.
It takes way too long.
We appreciate the fuck out of you.
Thank you for all coming out to the shows.
And thank you to everybody that's coming to Atlanta this weekend.
I'm fucking fired up.
I can't wait.
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The first one is 8 o'clock.
The second one is 10.30.
And the first one sold out.
So come on down and have a good fucking time with me, Duncan Trussell, and the legendary Joey Coco Diaz.
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unidentified
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